| 00:00.17 | jetscreamer | think so |
| 00:00.18 | Tramp | Tr0gd0r: the host it redirects to (www.club-e.com) resolves to 208.43.179.6, and the routing to this host is exactly the same as to your host. Last hop in front in both cases is "po01.fcr01.sea01.seattle-datacenter.com (67.228.118.134)", so I'm pretty sure there is a redirect set up there |
| 00:00.19 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 00:00.21 | pl4yer0ne | Agiofws, if your shell is bash it is |
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| 00:00.45 | Tr0gd0r | Tramp but why is it only redirecting port 80 |
| 00:00.49 | Tr0gd0r | all the other ports work fine |
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| 00:01.01 | jetscreamer | is that a shared box? |
| 00:01.02 | Tramp | Tr0gd0r: you'd have to ask seattle-datacenter.com |
| 00:01.12 | Tr0gd0r | jetscreamer no |
| 00:01.15 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 00:01.15 | Tr0gd0r | its softlayer.net |
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| 00:01.31 | Tr0gd0r | i guess its time to submit a ticket |
| 00:01.39 | Tr0gd0r | just odd that only my ips 248-251 redirect |
| 00:01.43 | Tr0gd0r | 252 and 247 are fine |
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| 00:02.52 | gewt | blames router poisoning |
| 00:02.57 | gewt | or dns poisoning |
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| 00:03.32 | Tramp | Tr0gd0r: they are in different subnets. Probably this redirect affects 248/30 |
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| 00:03.55 | Tr0gd0r | but again, only port 80 is poisoned |
| 00:03.58 | Tr0gd0r | other ports are fine |
| 00:04.00 | themill | gewt: dns isn't involved |
| 00:04.02 | foetus | themill: !wow, that works -- `date -R` as an placeholder on timestamp for creating changelogs! |
| 00:04.17 | Tramp | Tr0gd0r: and? what is this meant to proof? |
| 00:04.32 | foetus | themill: thanks alot, man |
| 00:04.40 | Tr0gd0r | just thought a router would reroute all packets, not just port 80 traffic |
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| 00:04.51 | themill | foetus: :) debian has a utility to help editing changelogs -- dch or debchange from the devscripts package |
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| 00:04.53 | Tr0gd0r | oh well. I am requesting a new set of ips |
| 00:04.56 | Tramp | Tr0gd0r: it's a redirect for port 80 of ....248/30. - no, that's a misconception |
| 00:05.06 | zzattack | my system becomes totally unstable when I move large files between disks. it becomes so slow that I can't even run top anymore. what can I do about this? |
| 00:05.20 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, stop moving large files around. |
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| 00:05.38 | foetus | themill: i don't need it anymore :) |
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| 00:05.41 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne that's not quite a satisfying solution |
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| 00:06.07 | themill | zzattack: watch less porn? |
| 00:06.08 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, is this on a server? |
| 00:06.10 | sylarrr | isnt' there a prime95 package? |
| 00:06.15 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: yes |
| 00:06.15 | Tr0gd0r | pl4yer0ne, then what would he do with his porn |
| 00:06.18 | zzattack | themill: how did you know |
| 00:06.33 | Tramp | zzattack: for a similar problem somebody earlier mentioned "ionice" (which I didn't know of before, so ymmv and I don't know much about it) |
| 00:06.35 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, Is it moving between SAS and SATA disks? |
| 00:06.48 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: both are SATA |
| 00:06.49 | foetus | themill: now i have an shellscript, calls "debianize", it makes debs from source. |
| 00:07.04 | Smerdyakov | My Gnome is starting, but it gets stuck doing something with dbus, to read my user's config. When I kill the dbus-daemon, initialization finishes, with many error pop-ups about not being able to read settings. Does anyone know what's wrong? |
| 00:07.10 | zzattack | i've already tried mounting the ext3 drives as ext4, which didn't change much |
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| 00:07.38 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, is there anything in the logs? |
| 00:07.39 | themill | foetus: have you come across checkinstall? |
| 00:07.54 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: nothing interesting |
| 00:08.21 | spersaud | whats a good way to share files between two linux machiens ? |
| 00:08.22 | spersaud | nfs ? |
| 00:08.31 | spersaud | !nfs |
| 00:08.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, nfs is Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about <ssh tunneled nfs>. |
| 00:09.28 | Doug52392 | But it's only a rumor, according to the bot. |
| 00:09.53 | foetus | themill: yes, for years, but checkinstall lacks sometimes -- great utility, for sure, i used it for building dozends of packages (mostly rpm), but now i create well-made debian packages with the debian system |
| 00:10.03 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: what should I look for? and in which files? |
| 00:10.09 | spersaud | Doug52392: good catch, |
| 00:10.38 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: my vmstat log is at http://zzattack.org/vmstat.log, I start moving files a few seconds into the log |
| 00:10.40 | spersaud | Doug52392: but it does say quite hard to secure |
| 00:10.45 | foetus | themill: this f..... line 5 :) |
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| 00:11.50 | themill | foetus: a script is never going to create a "well-made debian package" though. A script makes a good start (like dh-make) and then it's up to a person to turn a good start into a good package. |
| 00:11.55 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, look in syslog for anything like failed IO or anything to do with sda sdb etc |
| 00:13.04 | zzattack | is it safe to make that file public? |
| 00:13.33 | pl4yer0ne | cant see any reason why not |
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| 00:14.42 | zzattack | I put it up at http://zzattack.org/syslog |
| 00:15.04 | zzattack | I don't any of the things you mentioned |
| 00:16.07 | pl4yer0ne | oh sorry dude i thought you were talking about the vmstat log when i said i dont see any reason why not. I would take your syslog down. |
| 00:16.46 | zzattack | ah ok |
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| 00:18.33 | DavidProck1981 | Microsoft is down YYAAA |
| 00:18.48 | gewt | yay |
| 00:19.05 | gewt | gah |
| 00:19.08 | gewt | it's up here |
| 00:19.16 | DavidProck1981 | any microsoft sight wont come up |
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| 00:19.30 | DavidProck1981 | well for me ist not working |
| 00:19.41 | DavidProck1981 | clear your cashe |
| 00:20.05 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, I dont see anything obvious in this log. |
| 00:20.15 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: anything else I shoudl look at? |
| 00:20.39 | pl4yer0ne | try having a look at dstat when your doing the transfer |
| 00:20.48 | pl4yer0ne | its like top but for IO and stuff |
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| 00:21.10 | pl4yer0ne | you want to seperate out your disks with -d -D sda,sdb,sdc etc |
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| 00:21.18 | pl4yer0ne | otherwsie you'll just get totall |
| 00:21.33 | valdyn | zzattack: which filesystem are you using? |
| 00:21.39 | zzattack | valdyn: ext4 on both |
| 00:22.13 | pl4yer0ne | brb real work calls! |
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| 00:22.40 | zzattack | dstat doesnt show anything interesting |
| 00:22.57 | valdyn | zzattack: try if this shows when you just write or read |
| 00:23.07 | zzattack | it shows about 80MB/s read on the one disk and about the same for writeo n the other |
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| 00:23.13 | valdyn | zzattack: dd and /dev/null as destination or /dev/zero as source |
| 00:23.48 | valdyn | zzattack: writes can starve reads, or could, i dont know if this bug still exists |
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| 00:24.41 | valdyn | zzattack: anyway use dd to get more specific error cause |
| 00:24.57 | valdyn | zzattack: is that sata controller on a pci slot? |
| 00:25.04 | zzattack | valdyn: on mobo |
| 00:25.20 | zzattack | valdyn: dd with just if=/var/somebigfile of=/dev/null? |
| 00:25.41 | valdyn | zzattack: that doesnt say anything about the bus |
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| 00:25.44 | gewt | dstat is fun |
| 00:25.58 | valdyn | zzattack: yea, or read from the whole disk |
| 00:26.19 | valdyn | zzattack: or compare reading a large file against reading directly from the disk |
| 00:26.35 | JordiGH | My non-techie girlfriend has sent an essay to edit, and I want to just edit the plaintext, send her both the original text and my edited version, and THEN show her a diff in a format that she'll understand easily. What tools do you recommend for showing diffs to non-techies? |
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| 00:26.38 | zzattack | valdyn: I usually get great speeds with that |
| 00:26.41 | valdyn | zzattack: if you could figure out that this is filesystem related or not filesystem related that would be useful |
| 00:26.56 | zzattack | valdyn: I had the same problems on both ext3 as well as ext4 |
| 00:27.16 | valdyn | zzattack: theres alot of shared code between any 2 filesystems |
| 00:27.44 | zzattack | valdyn: one of the disks is pretty new, I could format that as another filesystem |
| 00:27.56 | gewt | hahaha' |
| 00:28.01 | gewt | 6 minutes to downlaod dvd1 |
| 00:28.06 | gewt | 8 |
| 00:28.10 | gewt | at 7 megabits per second |
| 00:28.12 | valdyn | zzattack: at first you dont need to |
| 00:28.15 | gewt | or megabytes |
| 00:28.23 | zzattack | valdyn: by the way, similar symptons occur when I read/copy both from the same disk, using different disks doesnt seem to make any difference here |
| 00:28.25 | valdyn | zzattack: for instance reading from disk directly and writing into large file |
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| 00:28.42 | gewt | grr |
| 00:28.44 | gewt | 4M/s |
| 00:28.52 | valdyn | zzattack: using which kernel btw? |
| 00:28.54 | gewt | it was up to 13 :( |
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| 00:29.26 | zzattack | valdyn: 2.6.28.5 currently, similar problems on 2.6.24 and 2.6.26 |
| 00:29.46 | valdyn | zzattack: what about debian kernels? |
| 00:30.13 | zzattack | you mean ones that i didnt compile myself? |
| 00:30.18 | valdyn | zzattack: yes |
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| 00:30.34 | zzattack | valdyn: same problems, pretty much the reason I tried with a self compiled one |
| 00:31.23 | valdyn | zzattack: this pretty much looks like a driver/hardware issue to me |
| 00:31.40 | JordiGH | Ah, mediawiki. |
| 00:31.45 | valdyn | zzattack: try to do some of those experiments i asked about above |
| 00:31.50 | JordiGH | Mediawiki produces pretty diffs. |
| 00:32.54 | zzattack | valdyn: those being direct disk reads/writes? |
| 00:32.54 | gewt | uses mediawiki |
| 00:32.55 | valdyn | zzattack: yea, you want to know that this is independent of filesystem |
| 00:32.55 | zzattack | alright |
| 00:33.00 | valdyn | zzattack: and that this happens the same way if you copy / read from same disk or between disks |
| 00:33.23 | valdyn | zzattack: i defenitely cant fix that, it will mean its a hardware or driver issue |
| 00:33.25 | zzattack | valdyn: do I use dd for this as well? |
| 00:33.34 | valdyn | zzattack: if you want, anything |
| 00:33.38 | pl4yer0ne | zzattack, are the disks on a radi controller or something like that? |
| 00:33.43 | pl4yer0ne | raid |
| 00:33.51 | zzattack | pl4yer0ne: nope, just a sata controller |
| 00:34.23 | valdyn | zzattack: make sure the disk(s) involved arent used by something else too |
| 00:34.33 | zzattack | valdyn: ok |
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| 00:36.33 | valdyn | zzattack: which sata controller and driver is this |
| 00:36.41 | zzattack | valdyn: I'm looking at top while running "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/null", it shows about 40% cpu for dd |
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| 00:37.00 | zzattack | valdyn: i'm trying to find out. the motherboard is an asus m3n78. |
| 00:37.04 | Tramp | I'd still give "ionice" at least a try and see, if something improves .... |
| 00:37.07 | gewt | 1895702133 bytes (1.9 GB) copied, 66.0763 s, 28.7 MB/s |
| 00:37.15 | valdyn | zzattack: that should have any impact on responsiveness |
| 00:37.22 | valdyn | zzattack: that should *NOT* have any impact on responsiveness |
| 00:37.48 | zzattack | valdyn: that's just for one core, another core shows 3560 root 20 0 503m 41m 348 R 100 0.5 34:55.61 kerneloops |
| 00:37.50 | gewt | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null |
| 00:37.51 | gewt | :D |
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| 00:38.14 | gewt | kernel oops? |
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| 00:38.52 | valdyn | zzattack: wrong paste? |
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| 00:39.05 | zzattack | valdyn: no.. not really |
| 00:39.18 | zzattack | it shows that line regardless of what the pc is doing |
| 00:39.26 | valdyn | zzattack: did you check dmesg before ? |
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| 00:39.52 | gewt | wow |
| 00:39.56 | gewt | my sats stuff |
| 00:40.03 | gewt | has faster transfer speeds |
| 00:40.06 | gewt | than my vps |
| 00:40.06 | zzattack | valdyn: what should I look for? I don't see anything specific |
| 00:40.22 | gewt | form /dev/<disk> to /dev/null |
| 00:40.23 | valdyn | zzattack: mm, should be obvious at the end |
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| 00:40.29 | valdyn | zzattack: if its not, theres probably nothing |
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| 00:40.41 | zzattack | valdyn: it mainly contains firewall (?) entries |
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| 00:41.24 | valdyn | zzattack: how is that? theres no firewall on in debian by default.. |
| 00:41.38 | MegafEee | hi folks, do you know how to control cpu speed on an asus eee 701? |
| 00:41.47 | MegafEee | in console mode |
| 00:41.51 | zzattack | valdyn: maybe its routing. most lines look a lot like this: [ 1839.861510] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:00:08:ae:04:36:00:08:00 SRC=88.159.81.254 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=18283 PROTO=2 |
| 00:42.11 | valdyn | zzattack: thats your linux kernel firewall |
| 00:42.57 | zzattack | valdyn: ah, so it's a firewall then I guess. can the sata controller be just the nvidia 8200 chipset? |
| 00:43.01 | luke3321 | Hello all, I have an error upon login about gnome-settings-manager: "Gnome settings daemon failed to start" |
| 00:43.15 | valdyn | zzattack: part of it yes |
| 00:43.22 | luke3321 | and it gives the error " WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SettingsDaemon" when run from command line |
| 00:43.29 | valdyn | zzattack: that its a specific device still |
| 00:43.41 | luke3321 | Any help would be appreciated |
| 00:43.45 | valdyn | zzattack: #net.ipv4.conf.all.log_martians = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf probably sets that firewall msg |
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| 00:44.13 | zzattack | valdyn: they're pretty annoying. I think I'll turn them off, thanks |
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| 00:46.16 | zzattack | valdyn: can I find out the sata controller name/type from debian itself? |
| 00:46.22 | valdyn | zzattack: lspci |
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| 00:46.47 | debu | can anyone tell me how to find out why a driver is causing my system to hang? |
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| 00:47.13 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, I am having a related problem. I get a hang instead, and I can get Gnome to finish loading if I kill gnome-settings-daemon several times. If I kill dbus-daemon instead, I see what you are seeing. |
| 00:47.24 | zzattack | valdyn: should I look for SMBus or IDE interface? I don't see anything with SATA in it |
| 00:47.38 | luke3321 | Smerdyakov: I take it you havnt found a solution either? |
| 00:47.41 | valdyn | zzattack: probably an unknown device |
| 00:47.45 | zzattack | valdyn: except 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SATA Controller (non-AHCI mode) (rev a2) |
| 00:47.47 | valdyn | zzattack: if that is listed |
| 00:47.51 | valdyn | zzattack: thats it |
| 00:48.28 | valdyn | zzattack: once more thing, go to your bios and set that sata controller to ahci mode |
| 00:48.41 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, correct, except for killing gnome-settings-daemon over and over. |
| 00:48.58 | luke3321 | Smerdyakov: But do you have full functionality after that? |
| 00:49.00 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, and that leaves me with some weird settings in the desktop that loads; I don't know if those are meant to be there. |
| 00:49.39 | luke3321 | Smerdyakov: Ah, mine loads all the way to the desktop with just one pop up error, but many things such as volume control wont work |
| 00:50.06 | luke3321 | Smerdyakov: And I have a suspicion it is gstreamer causing the problem |
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| 00:50.46 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, that is the behavior I see when I manually kill gnome-settings-daemon 11 times. |
| 00:51.04 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, I do end up with a volume control, though. |
| 00:51.13 | luke3321 | Smerdyakov: Interesting.. What release are you using? |
| 00:51.27 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, I just ran dist-upgrade in testing. |
| 00:51.33 | luke3321 | Same |
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| 00:52.21 | luke3321 | And the boys over at #gnome are comatose it seems..... I have scoured the Internet for hours and found no answer |
| 00:52.55 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, likewise. |
| 00:53.40 | luke3321 | Do you get an error when manually starting gnome-settings-daemon? |
| 00:53.45 | Megaf_ | ok, X installed, running XChat, but, which WM to use? i like KDE 3 and the last XFCE, so, maybe OpenBox? Maybe FVWM? |
| 00:54.13 | Megaf_ | are there CDE or similar for Linux? |
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| 00:54.25 | luke3321 | Megaf_: Well it seems gnome is having some problems in testing, so i would stay away there |
| 00:54.27 | Megaf_ | my favorite one is CDE |
| 00:54.39 | debu | so....can anyone tell me how to find out why a driver is causing my system to hang? |
| 00:54.55 | Megaf_ | luke3321, for now, i got only X, without any WM |
| 00:55.07 | luke3321 | i like kde also |
| 00:55.11 | luke3321 | give it a shot |
| 00:55.26 | luke3321 | havent had it in a while, and ive heard its gotten alot better |
| 00:55.44 | Megaf_ | luke3321, i got only 3GB SSD |
| 00:55.48 | Megaf_ | EeePC here |
| 00:55.53 | luke3321 | hmm |
| 00:56.04 | luke3321 | then xfce seems to be the way to go |
| 00:56.07 | Smerdyakov | luke3321, "... WARNING **: cannot open display". |
| 00:56.08 | luke3321 | very light |
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| 00:56.25 | luke3321 | Smerdyakov: Hmm.. Thats a different error than I got |
| 00:56.32 | Megaf_ | i would like to use CDE, the SunOS WM, is just perfect |
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| 00:56.57 | Megaf_ | extremely lightweight and full of apps and preferences |
| 00:57.06 | adb | Megaf_: enter oftc.debian.net for #debian-eeepc |
| 00:57.19 | JordiGH | So I ended up using Wikipedia itself, a talk page, to show the edits to my non-techie girlfriend. Does anyone have a better solution? The Wikimedia diffs are gorgeous for text (and possibly for code too). Is there another tool that creates diffs like this, side by side, coloured word by word? |
| 00:57.25 | muibe | has anyone idea how do i prevent apache from starting automatically at boot? i've got the latest debian stable |
| 00:57.46 | Smerdyakov | muibe, some /etc/defaults file? |
| 00:57.53 | Megaf_ | adb, thanks, but i have no problems with my Eee, my problem is the space left |
| 00:57.55 | gryfie | open /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 00:58.05 | JordiGH | muibe: I remember this isn't the way to do it, but you can just remove its symlink from /etc/rc$runlevel.d |
| 00:58.12 | gryfie | delete files that start apache |
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| 00:58.15 | Megaf_ | ok, FVWM |
| 00:58.25 | valdyn | !listkeys init |
| 00:58.27 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'init' by key (15 of 51): #debian .xinitrc ;; #debian init ;; #debian init.d ;; .xinitrc ;; /etc/init.d/gdm ;; _default xinitrc ;; blacklist-initramfs ;; bsd init ;; init 426 error ;; init script ;; init.d ;; initramfs ;; module-init-tools ;; trinitron ;; xinitrc. |
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| 00:58.34 | adb | Megaf_: so install icewm |
| 00:58.41 | valdyn | !init script |
| 00:58.42 | dpkg | hmm... init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc> <rc.local> <runlevel> |
| 00:58.51 | adb | xinit |
| 00:58.55 | adb | ... heh |
| 00:59.17 | valdyn | !rcconf |
| 00:59.18 | dpkg | it has been said that rcconf is a frontend to update-rc.d, or check out <sysv-rc-conf> - see these http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 and http://blogs.cyberciti.biz/hm/index.php/2005/10/27/removing-unwanted-startup-debian-files-or-services/ and ask me about <services> ...and if it's broken, try this: for a in $(ls /etc/rc?.d/???jabber) ; do rm $a ; done |
| 00:59.23 | JordiGH | remembers when apps were named xapp and xthing instead of gapp, gthing or kapp, kthing. |
| 00:59.35 | valdyn | !services |
| 00:59.36 | dpkg | it has been said that services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of <rcconf>, sysvconfig, <sysv-rc-conf>, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/, or /etc/services a port numbers list, or http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers |
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| 00:59.54 | valdyn | muibe: ^^ read what dpkg said |
| 00:59.59 | zzattack | valdyn: now it says in lspci "00:09.0 SATA controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] AHCI Controller (rev a2)" |
| 01:00.15 | valdyn | zzattack: now try your copying |
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| 01:01.09 | dkr | update-rc.d apache2 remove |
| 01:01.17 | dkr | muibe: |
| 01:01.25 | scribeskul | Is there anyway to get GLX working on a two-head setup, using two different cards: 1 AGP Nvidia 5200 & 1 PCI Nvidia Riva/TNT? Any help would be appreciated! |
| 01:01.59 | valdyn | dkr: sure? what does that do? |
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| 01:02.10 | zzattack | valdyn: that seems to do a whole lot better :D |
| 01:02.15 | dkr | valdyn: removes the symlinks |
| 01:02.17 | JordiGH | scribeskul: I suspect arcane voodoo will be required to do that. |
| 01:02.21 | valdyn | dkr: thats evil |
| 01:02.31 | Mood | How do I reattach a screen? screen -r is not working |
| 01:02.34 | JordiGH | Speaking of voodoo, is there a way to forward sound over ssh? |
| 01:02.57 | valdyn | dkr: if that removes the symlinks you have to reinstall the package to get them back properly |
| 01:03.04 | cromag | Mood: is the screen attached ? (screen -list) |
| 01:03.05 | dkr | valdyn: well, easily restored with update-rc.d pache2 defaults |
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| 01:03.10 | valdyn | dkr: no |
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| 01:03.26 | valdyn | dkr: that puts it at default priority, which might work or not, pure luck |
| 01:03.33 | Mood | cromag: screen -list does not appear to do anything |
| 01:03.38 | valdyn | dkr: not at the priority intended by the package maintainer |
| 01:03.41 | dkr | well then put it at 91 which you remember by looking before removing. heh |
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| 01:03.58 | Mood | cromag: oh wait a sec, it says: "1690.pts-112.ns1 (Multi, detached" |
| 01:04.00 | valdyn | dkr: proper way is somehow renaming the symlinks, i forgot how |
| 01:04.19 | cromag | Mood: ah - multi - i recall it is screen -x for that |
| 01:04.30 | Mood | cromag: ok, lemme try |
| 01:04.31 | dkr | valdyn: I thought update-rc.d was meant to be the proper way. never used the remove feature msyelf actually, just read abotu that frmo man page |
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| 01:04.45 | valdyn | dkr: update-rc.d is proper, but not safe |
| 01:04.48 | Mood | cromag: yay! it worked! thanks cromag! :-) |
| 01:04.48 | scribeskul | Ok, what exactly is Arcane Voodoo? I just tried searching for it but came up with nothing |
| 01:04.50 | zzattack | valdyn: thanks a lot, my problems seem to be gone. I've had them for months now so it's qutie a relief to finally get it working |
| 01:04.52 | cromag | Mood: np :) |
| 01:05.07 | valdyn | zzattack: great |
| 01:05.31 | tetraedr | I've got nvidia video card and 2.6.28 kernel, but video=uvesafb:1600x1200 says: http://pastebin.com/m6282b513 long story short: Unknown parameter `mode' whats wrong with it? |
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| 01:05.51 | valdyn | dkr: you could move SXYapache to KXYapache, maybe theres an update-rc.d command that does this nicely |
| 01:05.57 | dkr | valdyn: update-rc.d apache2 stop 91 2 3 4 5 |
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| 01:06.08 | Mood | cromag: how would i reattach the screen session (bash)? i can only reattach the irssi... |
| 01:06.09 | dkr | so it still has the links for stopping, just not starting, :) |
| 01:06.31 | dkr | which is what you just said. :) |
| 01:06.31 | valdyn | dkr: now if i could skip the 91 in a way that it gets the 91 from the existing symlinks.. |
| 01:06.48 | valdyn | dkr: yep |
| 01:06.50 | cromag | Mood: are there 2 session ? - you can use screen -<option> 1690.pts-112.ns1 |
| 01:07.09 | Mood | cromag: what goes in the option? -x? |
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| 01:07.23 | cromag | depends, but for multiuser it is x |
| 01:07.30 | Mood | cromag: ok- lemme try it |
| 01:07.38 | cromag | could be r for reattach, Dr for detach and reattach |
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| 01:08.12 | Mood | cromag: yay! it worked! i was able to ctrl + a and get the list, and get to my other bash session :-) |
| 01:08.37 | valdyn | !screenrc |
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| 01:08.54 | cromag | great :) |
| 01:09.00 | foetus | log out.. |
| 01:09.06 | Mood | thanks again cromag. you are more of a homosapien than a cromag :-) |
| 01:09.20 | cromag | heh - i take that as an insult ;) |
| 01:09.50 | tetraedr | found solution, at least I hope so. went rebooting |
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| 01:10.33 | debu | can anyone tell me how to find out why a driver is causing my system to hang? |
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| 01:18.32 | dvs | !wwsr |
| 01:18.32 | dpkg | There is no estimate for the release of <squeeze> currently. Subscribe to <d-d-a> to get news on the subject. |
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| 01:24.09 | debu | can't anyone help me with this wireless driver? it keeps causing my system to hang when i try to use the wireless card :( |
| 01:24.14 | litwol|mac | !d-d-s |
| 01:24.30 | KC | anybody know how much microsoft stack software usually costs (for comparison purposes) |
| 01:25.16 | litwol|mac | kc googl ? |
| 01:25.41 | KC | can only find end user class costs, not what businesses would pay |
| 01:25.57 | litwol|mac | several thousands per server due to database server, web server, tools to manage multi server environment, operating system license fee |
| 01:25.59 | litwol|mac | domain fee |
| 01:26.25 | KC | I think my software stack on my PC at work costs more than i make in a year |
| 01:26.40 | litwol|mac | pretty much |
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| 01:30.00 | MegafEee | hm |
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| 01:30.11 | MegafEee | fvwm-crystal is really nice |
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| 01:36.21 | MegafEee | it gots everything |
| 01:36.28 | MegafEee | pager, taskbar, systray |
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| 01:37.24 | RiotingPacifist` | is it possible to prevent root logins to ttys but allow runlevel1 to login as root? |
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| 01:39.19 | DeSian | o can't run Eclipse http://paste.pocoo.org/show/107694/ |
| 01:39.57 | topgun17 | How does one get a broad com BCM4312 wifi card working under debioan |
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| 01:40.26 | topgun17 | !b43 |
| 01:40.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, b43 is the new driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g wireless chipsets (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43), included in Linux since 2.6.24. Use <b43-fwcutter> to extract version 4 firmware for this driver. USB devices are not supported (for 4320, see <rndis_wlan>). 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users @ ... |
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| 01:42.26 | topgun17 | is there a repository for the package management sysytem that I can get the b43 driver from? |
| 01:42.49 | dondelelcaro | topgun17: the b43 driver is in the kernel |
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| 01:43.55 | dondelelcaro | topgun17: you'll need b43-fwcutter too, but that's in contrib |
| 01:44.21 | topgun17 | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 01:44.45 | no_mind | I have an usb device for which I have to write a driver. But when I plug in the device another driver claims the device. How do I prevent the other driver from claiming the device ? |
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| 01:47.16 | at0m|c | no_mind: rmmod? |
| 01:48.00 | mischief6 | dondelelcaro, i upgraded the kernel like you suggested |
| 01:48.09 | mischief6 | but the module doesn't seem to work for the device any more |
| 01:48.42 | no_mind | alturiak: if I rmmod then I get a kernel oops |
| 01:49.04 | dondelelcaro | mischief6: well, then your best bet is to file a bug against the kernel |
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| 01:49.17 | no_mind | I just want the devie to remain unclaimed when I plugin or the other driver to give up the control |
| 01:49.27 | no_mind | the other drive in discussion is the hid driver |
| 01:49.57 | mischief6 | dondelelcaro, is there any way to find out exactly why the system hangs when i use that driver with that device under the 2.6.26 kernel? |
| 01:50.01 | ludwig- | I'm trying to upgrade unstable. Anybody run into a warning about removing the util-linux package? Is that safe? |
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| 01:51.58 | at0m|c | no_mind: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg351306.html - blacklist module howto |
| 01:53.35 | no_mind | at0m|c: that will blacklist the module but that is not what I want. I want the driver not to claim a device with specific vendor id and product id. The hid driver is required by other modules |
| 01:54.02 | at0m|c | no_mind: ok, with that i cannot help you |
| 01:54.11 | at0m|c | neosmatrix: identity problems? |
| 01:54.32 | neosmatrix | I try to auto login with konversation :) |
| 01:55.04 | dondelelcaro | mischief6: sysreq and a serial console |
| 01:55.41 | dondelelcaro | mischief6: another method is to talk to the maintainer of that module, and send an example of your hardware to the maintainer if it'd help. |
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| 02:06.59 | litwol|mac | anyone here has experience installing debian on macbook pro ? |
| 02:08.30 | infomomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.50 | litwol|mac | ideally yes |
| 02:09.05 | litwol|mac | any method would do i suppose |
| 02:09.21 | litwol|mac | i am feeling very lucky this week, i want to try it out :-p |
| 02:09.27 | epsilon | I have, but on MacBook Wheel. Searching for a file in shell is just 100 clicks away... |
| 02:09.39 | litwol|mac | lol |
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| 02:14.04 | seria-mau | is it possible to have multiple imap configurations with different sslVersions in stunnel.conf? i did the following but can't connect to the second configuration: http://paste.debian.net/30473/ but the second one immediately closes connection |
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| 02:18.33 | seria-mau | there's always a tunnel of the two which isn't working |
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| 02:21.29 | dburger | how do you change sources.list to "testing" with debian 5.0 ? |
| 02:21.48 | dburger | the lines look different than the resources I'm able to find, |
| 02:22.08 | dburger | deb url lenny main |
| 02:22.21 | dburger | wheras all the examples show changing "stable" to "testing" |
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| 02:22.41 | adb | change lenny to testing |
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| 02:22.57 | adb | thats all |
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| 02:28.30 | jpinx | dburger: after a conversation the other day - I'd recommend that your change your sources.list to squeeze - not to testing. |
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| 02:29.20 | dburger | jpinx: what is squeeze ??? |
| 02:29.46 | jpinx | dburger: squeeze is currently testing |
| 02:30.00 | debu | can anyone tell me how i can enable a 'disabled' pci device? |
| 02:30.18 | jpinx | !tell dburger about release names |
| 02:30.25 | dburger | jpinx: I need to pass a security scan and the main thing they say that will need to be done is to be "up to latest versions" |
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| 02:31.15 | dburger | they will run an automated test program against the server and make a decision on whether or not we are good to go. |
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| 02:32.04 | jpinx | dburger: "they" ? |
| 02:32.25 | dustpylex2 | jpinx, they man! They're watching us >.> |
| 02:32.32 | dustpylex2 | lol |
| 02:32.35 | jpinx | dburger: the latest stable version of debian is lenny |
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| 02:33.03 | jpinx | squeeze is not stable |
| 02:33.49 | jpinx | dburger: you need to find out whta test they are going to run through your system before making decisions about going up to an unstable release |
| 02:34.06 | dburger | jpinx: are you familar with nessus or retina ? |
| 02:34.17 | jpinx | dburger: no |
| 02:34.29 | dburger | ha, me neither, but I guess I will get more familar next week. |
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| 02:34.58 | dburger | but they already told me the versions of apache and ssh I was running on another box weren't going to cut it, it was a CentOS distribution fully up to date. |
| 02:35.08 | jpinx | dburger: I can only say again that lenny is the latest stable version of Debian. |
| 02:35.42 | jpinx | judd: versions apache |
| 02:35.42 | judd | jpinx: apache -- etch: 1.3.34-4.1+etch1 |
| 02:35.59 | jpinx | judd: versions apache2 |
| 02:36.01 | judd | jpinx: apache2 -- etch: 2.2.3-4+etch6 sid: 2.2.9-10 lenny: 2.2.9-10+lenny2 sid: 2.2.11-2 squeeze: 2.2.11-2 |
| 02:36.05 | dburger | jpinx: thanks for your help |
| 02:36.23 | jpinx | judd: versions ssh |
| 02:36.23 | judd | jpinx: ssh -- etch: 1:4.3p2-9etch3 etch-security: 1:4.3p2-9etch3 sid: 1:5.1p1-3 lenny: 1:5.1p1-5 sid: 1:5.1p1-5 squeeze: 1:5.1p1-5 |
| 02:36.26 | NiLon | +2.5V: +1.57 V (min = +2.36 V, max = +2.61 V) ALARM |
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| 02:36.30 | NiLon | is that really alerting? |
| 02:36.40 | NiLon | 1V lower than it should be.. seems lots |
| 02:37.43 | jpinx | dburger: what version of apache were you trying to get past them on your other box with CentOS? |
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| 02:38.31 | asdf | anyone running on a linode? |
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| 02:38.48 | dburger | jpinx: for that one they only said "latest version" |
| 02:38.51 | asdf | for some reason my static ip info is not working |
| 02:38.59 | dburger | jpinx: for openssl, they specified 0.9.8.j |
| 02:39.22 | jpinx | judd: versions openssl |
| 02:39.22 | judd | jpinx: openssl -- etch: 0.9.8c-4etch3 etch-security: 0.9.8c-4etch4 lenny: 0.9.8g-15 sid: 0.9.8g-15 squeeze: 0.9.8g-15 |
| 02:39.49 | darmster | do i need ports imap and pop3 open on my firewall to receive mail for my postfix server or is smtp fine |
| 02:40.03 | jpinx | dburger: not even experimental has openssl 0.9.8.j |
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| 02:40.25 | jpinx | does it even exist? |
| 02:41.10 | zoredache | when installing via the netinstaller is there a way to open a pre-existing dm-crypted + lvm? |
| 02:42.11 | dburger | hmmm, good question |
| 02:42.57 | seria-mau | anybody? i am trying this for hours now |
| 02:42.59 | seria-mau | it also doesnt work if i split the config in two separate config files. always one of the tunnels doesnt work |
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| 02:43.06 | zoredache | I want to install lenny, onto another logical volume... but the installer seems to want to simply wipe my encrypted volume... |
| 02:43.10 | jpinx | dburger: it exists, but it's bleeding edge afaict |
| 02:43.50 | zoredache | as an alternate tactic, can I use x86 deboostrap to build a amd64 install? |
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| 02:44.06 | jpinx | dburger: you might be able to backport the later versions of packages for your test |
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| 02:45.22 | jpinx | dburger: openssl 0.9.8j was released on 7th Jan - that's not long ago. |
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| 02:46.26 | wpgmb | dual booted WinXP and FC10. Wanted to replace Fedora with Lenny, and I keep running into an error warning upon partioning the drive: Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/hda5 -- Device or resource busy (and on it goes) Apparently I'm not the only one. If I ignore it, it goes on to install a base system, I install Grub to MBR and I get error 17. I could really use some help here |
| 02:48.50 | superjet_busy | wpgmb: prepare partion with livecd or other os, just set mount point when install lenny |
| 02:49.12 | jpinx | wpgmb: /dev/hda5 is what? Fedora's / ? what othe partitions do you have? pastebin fdisk -l |
| 02:49.48 | jpinx | wpgmb: what installation medium are you using? |
| 02:50.14 | wpgmb | jpinx: can't right now... I "cancel" and the installer starts to partition anyway, as if nothing happened. I tried using both the netinstall, and CD no.1 |
| 02:51.01 | wpgmb | jpinx:  /dev/hda5 isn't really anything.... I found this exact error message pop up while Googling the problem |
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| 02:52.32 | jpinx | wpgmb: can you accept the existing partitions and skip the partitioning section? |
| 02:53.23 | jpinx | doesn't have experience of this problem |
| 02:54.05 | wpgmb | jpinx: haven't tried that yet... I'm going through the motions here... entering root psswrd... etc |
| 02:54.23 | seria-mau | how do i set the ssl/tls version for stunnel on the commandline? i'm now trying to set the tunnels up manually |
| 02:56.03 | wpgmb | jpinx: I'm letting it finish this xxxth attempt to install. After this, I'll go in with rescue once again, and I can get the fdisk output |
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| 02:58.24 | jpinx | wpgmb: if you can fdisk or cfdisk it I would repartition and create free space for the installer to partition itself |
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| 02:59.21 | wpgmb | jpinx: that implies I can get into a terminal... I can't boot the system. How would I do that? |
| 03:00.03 | rincewind | hi, I want to install debian testing, is cdrom1 sufficient or do I need to download more cds? |
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| 03:00.20 | jpinx | wpgmb: does your livecd or rescue not have a partitioning tool? |
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| 03:00.54 | wpgmb | jpinx: I'm using the rescue option from the install CD. Not good? |
| 03:01.18 | wpgmb | jpinx: there |
| 03:01.24 | jpinx | rincewind: cd1 will give you a base system iirc - but you won't need to ask many questions if you are expert enough to install testing |
| 03:01.50 | jpinx | wpgmb: does that have a partitioning tool? |
| 03:01.57 | aixenv | guys im wondering what thoughts everyone has as the best filesystem type (xfs, reiserfs, ext3, something else) for a backup server that'll be moving lots of files around so very disk intensive |
| 03:02.02 | wpgmb | jpinx: there's some other weird stuff going on... during partioning I have limited options... Only two primary partitions. |
| 03:02.25 | rincewind | jpinx, problem is the documentation is really spare regarding what's on the different cds -.- |
| 03:02.36 | wpgmb | jpinx: I'm familiar with fdisk or cfdisk.. I'm not sure if the installation disk contains it, and if it does, how I access it |
| 03:02.44 | pickcoder | aixenv: a fast disk system will help any of them, what are you planning on using? |
| 03:03.07 | jpinx | rincewind: better to doa netinstall maybe - more control |
| 03:03.34 | rincewind | jpinx, no networkcable at hand -.- |
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| 03:03.39 | wpgmb | jpinx: here she goes.... rebooting - hopefully - correct now |
| 03:03.45 | pickcoder | wpgmb: I normally use Knoppix which has the normal shell tools and a GUI partitioner |
| 03:04.07 | rincewind | jpinx, and doc says w-lan isn't supported -.- |
| 03:04.10 | jpinx | wpgmb: cool |
| 03:04.15 | wpgmb | jpinx: nope - Grub loading stage 1.5.... Grub loading. p;lease wait... Error 17 |
| 03:04.26 | aixenv | pickcoder : we've been using reiser, drives will be all 15krpm |
| 03:04.36 | wpgmb | jpinx: I KNOW somehow the grub table must be messed up |
| 03:04.48 | aixenv | pickcoder i was just doing some research to make sure we got the right idea |
| 03:05.00 | rincewind | aixenv, you might need to specify what you want. either it's secure or it's fast ;) |
| 03:05.09 | jpinx | wpgmb: can you get into the system to see the grub files? |
| 03:05.09 | aixenv | fast |
| 03:05.15 | aixenv | security wont be an issue |
| 03:05.39 | rincewind | aixenv, for backups? |
| 03:05.42 | wpgmb | jpinx: I'm gonna find my Knoppix disc.. must be around somewhere |
| 03:05.55 | KC | How do I make iceweasel remember the program to open a given file with? |
| 03:06.01 | jpinx | wpgmb: you can even get to them through windows and an ext2 fs reader |
| 03:06.15 | aixenv | i just want the best possible filesys for handling lots of simultaneous writes |
| 03:06.19 | KC | whenever I try it either makes every file open with the same program, or doesn't remember at all |
| 03:06.38 | KC | writes and reads at the same time |
| 03:06.42 | wpgmb | jpinx: I can't get to Windows lol |
| 03:06.48 | aixenv | rincewind : yea |
| 03:06.49 | KC | the disk slowdown when i compress/decompress is insane |
| 03:07.00 | aixenv | rincewind : nightly rsyncs of various servers using rsnapshot |
| 03:07.21 | jpinx | wpgmb: you need the rescue cd ;) |
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| 03:07.57 | jpinx | rincewind: wlan is supported in the eeepc installer, but it'll depend on your hardware |
| 03:08.05 | pickcoder | wpgmb: error 17 means grub can't find the root= referened location |
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| 03:08.37 | wpgmb | pickcoder: that's what I gathered.... now -how to fix that? |
| 03:08.43 | rincewind | jpinx, ???? |
| 03:08.49 | rincewind | jpinx, eee? |
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| 03:09.01 | jpinx | pickcoder: wpgmb probably has a perfectly viable install and just needs tiny tweak in grub |
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| 03:09.41 | pickcoder | wpgmb: boot from Knoppix, figure out which disk/partition is which, chroot to your / partition and fix grub |
| 03:10.00 | jpinx | rincewind: http://eeepc.debian.net/debian/images/debian-eeepc.img |
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| 03:10.23 | pickcoder | wpgmb: you can do it from grub by specifying the root= statement |
| 03:10.47 | wpgmb | pickcoder: don't understand that last comment... must...... Google.... |
| 03:10.48 | pickcoder | then fix it after it boots |
| 03:11.00 | rincewind | jpinx, normal install doesn't support wlan? |
| 03:11.08 | jpinx | wpgmb: or you can do it by hand in menu.lst - remembering that grub partitions numbering starts with 0 not 1 |
| 03:11.37 | jpinx | rincewind: this is a special installer for the Asus eeepc |
| 03:12.04 | wpgmb | jpinx: working on it.... Can't find my Knoppix disc - of course. |
| 03:12.07 | rincewind | jpinx, and the normal installer from cdrom1 doesn't support wlan? |
| 03:12.15 | wpgmb | (frantically searching everywhere) |
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| 03:12.38 | jpinx | rincewind: I don't know - I have not used it recently |
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| 03:13.37 | rincewind | jpinx, k, It's at 98% anyways so I'll give it a try. If worst comes to worst I'll have to call someone up an get cable... |
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| 03:13.42 | pickcoder | wpgmb: instead of selecting a line to boot when the menu shows up, you can select "c" for command prompt or "e" to edit the contents of that menu item |
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| 03:14.19 | jpinx | rincewind: it looks like the standard installer does not do wireless - sorry |
| 03:14.23 | jair | hello guys, I have a linux server at home running etch and another one running lenny, If i can not remember the passwords is there a debian rescue cd I can use to reset my password ? |
| 03:14.30 | jair | the root password I meant |
| 03:14.42 | enouf | jair: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 03:14.44 | rincewind | great -.- |
| 03:15.00 | jair | I did this once with a linux fedora, but never heard of a rescue on debian |
| 03:15.19 | pickcoder | wpgmb: grub>root (hd0,0) for example if your / is hda1 or sda1 then grub> boot |
| 03:15.29 | dmoerner | is this failure to upgrade bzr on sid reproducible? http://paste.debian.net/30477/ |
| 03:15.36 | jair | enouf: what do you mean? |
| 03:16.04 | enouf | jair: there also is 'rescue{gui}' boot mode from within the installer, but that's not what you want AFAICT |
| 03:16.16 | jpinx | jair: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html |
| 03:16.17 | enouf | jair: in your irc client |
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| 03:16.35 | enouf | jair: in your irc client -> /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 03:16.59 | jair | wait a minute, there is a rescue option on the debian cd when I boot right? |
| 03:17.03 | jair | in the options |
| 03:17.05 | jair | :) |
| 03:17.07 | OldMonk | jair: you don't need it |
| 03:17.12 | jair | there you go |
| 03:17.16 | jair | what do you mean? |
| 03:17.21 | OldMonk | jair: see what enouf is telling you |
| 03:17.21 | enouf | !rescue mode |
| 03:17.22 | dpkg | Debian Installer has a recovery ('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the Installation Guide ("Recovering a Broken System") for more details. Etch users: Additional steps are required if you are using encrypted LVM, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto |
| 03:17.29 | jair | ok |
| 03:17.33 | OldMonk | dammit enouf! |
| 03:17.36 | enouf | but again - not really what you want, AFAICT |
| 03:17.51 | enouf | OldMonk: sorry |
| 03:17.54 | OldMonk | ;) |
| 03:18.03 | jpinx | passes rincewind a network cable |
| 03:18.13 | pl4yer0ne | woah hold on is the problem that you need to reset the root password? |
| 03:18.16 | jair | well I do not have any encryption or lvm on that machine |
| 03:18.34 | rincewind | takes cable and nods |
| 03:18.38 | jair | pl4yer0ne: yes just passwd root |
| 03:18.41 | jpinx | jair: did you read that reference I gave you? |
| 03:18.43 | enouf | !+ tell jair -about ifrp |
| 03:18.45 | dpkg | told jair about ifrp. |
| 03:18.48 | pl4yer0ne | you need to boot into single user mode |
| 03:18.51 | jair | that is all I need to do in init1 or 2 I guess |
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| 03:19.13 | pickcoder | or boot a live CD, chroot, and change it |
| 03:19.24 | enouf | !+tell jair -about msgthebot |
| 03:19.25 | dpkg | told jair about msgthebot. |
| 03:19.50 | OldMonk | pickcoder: isn't that like using a road roller to open a walnut? |
| 03:19.54 | jair | I got it thank you |
| 03:20.03 | enouf | pheww.. |
| 03:20.03 | pickcoder | OldMonk: yes but it's guaranteed to crack the shell! |
| 03:20.15 | OldMonk | pickcoder: agreed fully :) |
| 03:20.43 | jair | thank you |
| 03:20.44 | jair | all |
| 03:21.23 | pickcoder | I think rolling vibra-tampers are better suited for walnuts, though. It shakes the pieces apart for you. |
| 03:21.28 | pl4yer0ne | yeah you just need to add "Single" or "S" to the grub entry while booting |
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| 03:21.39 | jpinx | rincewind: if you try that installer with wifi, you'd only have to remove the acpi's for the eeepc |
| 03:21.46 | jpinx | Ooops - gone |
| 03:22.04 | OldMonk | umm, you still need the root password to enter proper single-user mode |
| 03:22.13 | enouf | bingo |
| 03:22.19 | OldMonk | the init= thnigie works regardless |
| 03:22.25 | jpinx | uses a normal account that has sudo |
| 03:22.25 | enouf | indeed |
| 03:22.32 | pickcoder | so does a chroot from a live CD... :) |
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| 03:23.01 | OldMonk | dubs pickcoder, Pick "Road Roller" Coder |
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| 03:23.57 | wpgmb | Uck!! the partioning portion shows a primary (20G) and a logical drive (20G) for winxp... the remaining 140G is going to be for Debian. I can only assign two primary partitions, and the rest is labeled "unusable".. What gives? |
| 03:24.18 | OldMonk | wpgmb: use logical partitions |
| 03:24.26 | pl4yer0ne | err no you dont need the root passwd to change the root passwd from a Single user mode prompt |
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| 03:24.55 | OldMonk | pl4yer0ne: you need the root password to get to the single-user prompt first |
| 03:25.01 | wpgmb | OldMonk: I don't get the choice???? |
| 03:25.02 | pl4yer0ne | no you dont |
| 03:25.11 | jpinx | wpgmb: make one more primary partition and then go for logical for /home /swap etc |
| 03:25.20 | pl4yer0ne | you edit the line during boot |
| 03:25.39 | OldMonk | wpgmb: you can only have 4 primary partitions in a disk with an MSDOS-type partition table |
| 03:26.14 | OldMonk | pl4yer0ne: i must be using some other system then... all the recent linuxen i've seen need a password to enter single-user |
| 03:26.19 | rgr | Sorry if I missed queston earlier. Must I start firestarter at boot to apply any policy? Its just that if I restart my mail server I have to ssh in (enabled by firestarter fuuny enough) and then bring up firestarter GUI. Imap then works. I can quit firestarter gui and it continues to work until next reboot. Ideas? |
| 03:26.34 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: you're mistaken |
| 03:26.42 | wpgmb | jpinx: ok... I'll give / the primary. Do I flag it bootable, and afterwards tell MBR to install to the default? That's what I've been doing, and it ain't working |
| 03:26.49 | OldMonk | wpgmb: if you |
| 03:26.57 | OldMonk | wpgmb: if you have to, give /boot the primary |
| 03:27.02 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: have you ever looked at what loads during a 'S' boot? |
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| 03:27.28 | wpgmb | OldMonk - ok, do I flag /boot as bootable? |
| 03:27.32 | jpinx | wpgmb: wat OldMonk said ^^ |
| 03:27.50 | jpinx | wpgmb: yes -make bootable |
| 03:27.51 | wpgmb | (waiting for flag answer...) |
| 03:27.53 | wpgmb | thx |
| 03:27.56 | OldMonk | wpgmb: depends on whether you want the winduhs loader ot grub to be your primary boot loader |
| 03:28.01 | pl4yer0ne | i -just- did it now |
| 03:28.08 | wpgmb | OldMonk |
| 03:28.16 | wpgmb | OldMnk: grub. please |
| 03:28.21 | enouf | well, then you're not using debian |
| 03:28.22 | pickcoder | rgr: is there a file in /etc/default/firestarter |
| 03:28.29 | OldMonk | pl4yer0ne: you booted with linux single and got a prompt without a password? |
| 03:28.38 | OldMonk | enouf: he is: debian 0.9 ;) |
| 03:28.48 | OldMonk | wpgmb: then do flag it as bootable |
| 03:29.16 | pl4yer0ne | yes that is correct |
| 03:29.32 | wpgmb | OldMonk + jpinx: That's what I've been doing, and it ain't working :) |
| 03:29.40 | pickcoder | hrm.. I've never seen that. |
| 03:29.43 | pl4yer0ne | hangon let me try a less "experimental" system |
| 03:29.45 | OldMonk | wpgmb: you need to install grub on the MBR too |
| 03:29.57 | pickcoder | I always get a prompt when I reboot and go into single user from boot-p |
| 03:30.00 | pickcoder | ~boot-up |
| 03:30.08 | rgr | pickcoder: no. |
| 03:30.11 | pickcoder | "init s" is a bit different |
| 03:30.17 | OldMonk | i get a root password prompt :) |
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| 03:30.39 | pickcoder | rgr: I dunno. I use shorewall mostly |
| 03:30.50 | rgr | (btw I just installed a new SATA into an IDE and copied over linux and then removed the IDE and booted the SATA if I can help, but missed the start of the chat) |
| 03:31.10 | pickcoder | rgr: is the init.d/ firestarter script linked in the rc dirs? |
| 03:31.14 | wpgmb | OldMonk: I know, I know, I know (desperate).... I wish I could give you a screenshot of this partitioning screen.... |
| 03:31.39 | OldMonk | wpgmb: where're you getting stuck? what's the error? |
| 03:31.40 | rgr | pickcoder: so yes it does have to be started? It doesnt set up iptables once? |
| 03:31.46 | pickcoder | wpgmb: what are you using to edit the partitions? |
| 03:31.50 | jpinx | wpgmb: you are in the installers partitioning tool or some other? |
| 03:31.59 | pickcoder | rgr: iptables are not persistent from boot-to-boot.. |
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| 03:32.08 | wpgmb | jpinx: installers part. tool |
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| 03:32.11 | pickcoder | that's what iptables-save and iptables-restore was written for |
| 03:32.13 | rgr | so "yes you do have to run it"? |
| 03:32.15 | wpgmb | severely messed |
| 03:32.21 | rgr | this would explain |
| 03:32.27 | rgr | but I wonder why ssh is working |
| 03:32.40 | pickcoder | rgr: if you can't use imap but you can use SSH then it's not the default iptable setup |
| 03:32.54 | pickcoder | the default is ACCEPT for all three main chains |
| 03:33.11 | OldMonk | i'd use lokkit to setup the base iptables config before the interfaces come up, then use whatever extended firewall is required later |
| 03:33.12 | pickcoder | are you sure you don't have conflicting firewall stuff? |
| 03:33.13 | rgr | pickcoder: thats what I thozught. So can I load up firestarter have it toggle iptables and then make that iptables thing permanent? |
| 03:33.28 | pickcoder | rgr: sysv-rc-conf |
| 03:33.33 | pl4yer0ne | hmmm ok I concede using a non ghetto version of debian you do indeed drop to a p/w prompt |
| 03:33.43 | pickcoder | rgr: make sure you don't have two firewall setups |
| 03:33.55 | rgr | how would I check that? I'm sure I dont. |
| 03:34.03 | pickcoder | kmyfirewall, guidedog, or some other software |
| 03:34.10 | jpinx | wpgmb: if you have a / partition able to take the system, install and reclaim the "unusable" area later |
| 03:34.13 | pickcoder | dpkg --list | grep fire |
| 03:34.14 | dpkg | pickcoder: i don't know |
| 03:34.15 | KC | this song will be over soon right? |
| 03:34.19 | pickcoder | dpkg --list | grep <package> |
| 03:34.19 | dpkg | pickcoder: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 03:34.22 | KC | wrong chan |
| 03:34.47 | OldMonk | KC: switch to the classical channel, songs never get over there |
| 03:34.57 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: thank you for the sincere follow up |
| 03:35.32 | pl4yer0ne | no worries, never too stuck up to be proven wrong =D |
| 03:36.04 | enouf | trust me, i'm wrong more often than you or anyone else ... |
| 03:36.23 | enouf | well.. |
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| 03:36.36 | enouf | you get my drift |
| 03:36.46 | rgr | using standard debian boot how do I check if firestarter is started at boot? |
| 03:36.47 | pickcoder | enouf: that's proof that you spend too much time in here |
| 03:36.49 | OldMonk | is this a competition? in that case: Debian scuks, and i know hwo to speel! |
| 03:36.59 | wpgmb | aaaaaaaaaahh... found a Knoppix 5.1.1 - booting it now (fingers crossed) |
| 03:37.01 | enouf | pickcoder: not too much lately .. |
| 03:37.03 | pickcoder | rgr: install that package I stated |
| 03:37.13 | rgr | guidedog? |
| 03:37.17 | pickcoder | sysv-rc-conf |
| 03:37.25 | rgr | aha, missed that thanks. Will do. |
| 03:37.25 | enouf | !rcconf |
| 03:37.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, rcconf is a frontend to update-rc.d, or check out <sysv-rc-conf> - see these http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 and http://blogs.cyberciti.biz/hm/index.php/2005/10/27/removing-unwanted-startup-debian-files-or-services/ and ask me about <services> ...and if it's broken, try this: for a in $(ls /etc/rc?.d/???jabber) ; do rm $a ; done |
| 03:37.27 | pickcoder | or just look in the rc.D dirs |
| 03:37.31 | wpgmb | jpinx: hey - never thought of that.... |
| 03:38.18 | enouf | the rc?.d/ ones |
| 03:38.33 | rgr | pickcoder: ok, firestarter in only checked under "S". |
| 03:38.38 | pl4yer0ne | rgr you can drop to a console and do: sudo iptables -L that will list some firewall rules, you can see if it has loaded what you want or not |
| 03:39.09 | pickcoder | rgr: select 2-5 |
| 03:39.22 | pickcoder | when you exit out it will update the links |
| 03:39.23 | rgr | will do. what does S mean quickly |
| 03:39.31 | enouf | start |
| 03:39.38 | OldMonk | IMNSHO gui firewall configurators suck... they let you think you know what you're doing and that you're safe, which is dangerous |
| 03:39.54 | jpinx | wpgmb: good luck ;) |
| 03:40.00 | pickcoder | OldMonk: and people still think microwaves are harmless |
| 03:40.03 | enouf | s/start/{start/single} |
| 03:40.15 | OldMonk | pickcoder: i don't since i stuck my hand into the oven |
| 03:40.25 | rgr | OldMonk: and is emacs in gtk also sucks for the same reason? :-; |
| 03:40.36 | rgr | pickcoder: thank. Will reboot and see. |
| 03:41.25 | OldMonk | haven't tried gtk-emacs yet... the regular one works fine for me |
| 03:42.46 | stack | if with `ip' i try to add an inet6 address and it reply RTNETLINK:operation not supported what does it really means? (it's a fresh lenny netinstalled(I not added any mirror in istallation)) |
| 03:43.36 | rgr | OldMonk: I see. And you travel to work in a steam dirven perambulator? :-) gtk is default emacs install pretty much now for many. The xft is built in so font smoothing and anti aliasing are great. of course hard core ssh sessions in a shell also requires emacs -nw too :-) |
| 03:44.11 | OldMonk | rgr: actually i'm in india, so i travel to work on the elephant, while fighting off snake-charmers in the jungle |
| 03:44.29 | pickcoder | what's even better is the switch from incandescent to CFL bulbs to save energy... instead of wasting power, increasinly large amounts of lamps will end up expelling more mercury than ever before. |
| 03:44.37 | OldMonk | oh, and internet over jungle drums is slow, but it works as long as the drummer doesn't get too drunk |
| 03:45.07 | stack | is ipv6 supported by default in debian kernel? |
| 03:45.14 | pickcoder | stack: yup |
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| 03:45.25 | pickcoder | you have to turn it off, actually, if you don't want it |
| 03:45.33 | lokoabreu | anyone with blacklist experience |
| 03:45.35 | stack | and why that answer in setting a inet6 address? |
| 03:46.27 | pickcoder | lokoabreu: that's extremely vague |
| 03:46.38 | pickcoder | stack: ? |
| 03:47.12 | stack | pickcoder: I quote myself - "if with `ip' i try to add an inet6 address and it reply RTNETLINK:operation not supported" |
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| 03:47.41 | stack | the question was, why that responce from ip |
| 03:48.23 | pickcoder | stack: I have no idea what "if with 'ip'" is |
| 03:48.30 | pickcoder | spell out the statement you're issuing |
| 03:48.34 | pickcoder | or pastebin your interfaces |
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| 03:49.40 | stack | I'm trying to add a ipv6 address with the ip command to the interface eth0 , If I write ip -f inet6 addr add <ipv6> dev eth0 the response is RTNETLINK:operation not supported |
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| 03:52.35 | lokoabreu | pickcoder: i need to prevent something from loading |
| 03:52.35 | lokoabreu | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.17 | pickcoder | stack: lsmod | grep ipv6 |
| 03:53.30 | pickcoder | lokoabreu: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 03:53.45 | pickcoder | lokoabreu: just list "blacklist " and then module name |
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| 03:53.51 | lokoabreu | [ 9.575124] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: Host SMBus controller not enabled! |
| 03:54.01 | lokoabreu | i need to prevent this to happen |
| 03:54.10 | stack | argh, damn none ipv6 module was loaded ...thanks and sorry for the stupidity :) |
| 03:54.11 | lokoabreu | it takes a long time.. about 6 seconds to load |
| 03:54.31 | OldMonk | ipv6 should have loaded automatically, no? |
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| 03:54.39 | pickcoder | OldMonk: yeah |
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| 03:54.45 | pickcoder | stack: is it blacklisted? |
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| 03:54.55 | lokoabreu | pickcoder: yes i went there.. and type blacklist piix4_smbus |
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| 03:54.57 | lokoabreu | but that didnt work |
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| 03:56.24 | rgr | pickcoder: that seems to have done it. Now I connect to dovecot once from emacs (gnus), why would there be 4 imap-login processes running I wonder on my mails erver though? |
| 03:57.47 | rgr | also, why would I run guidedog over firestarter? |
| 03:59.01 | pickcoder | lokoabreu: you need to find out which driver is using that module.. can you lsmod and follow the list? |
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| 03:59.29 | lokoabreu | pickcoder: what you mean with lsmod and follow the list? |
| 03:59.32 | pickcoder | rgr: personal preference.. I use shorewall after guidedog confused the hell out of me |
| 03:59.45 | pickcoder | lokoabreu: look in the lsmod list for that module |
| 03:59.49 | pickcoder | see what drivers are using it |
| 04:00.32 | pickcoder | er.. vice-versa in this case |
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| 04:02.03 | mozzz | hi |
| 04:02.16 | mozzz | how can i use wlan in debian? |
| 04:02.23 | lokoabreu | pickcoder: where is lsmod list? |
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| 04:04.40 | pickcoder | lokoabreu: type "lsmod" |
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| 04:05.44 | bpun | anyone ever heard of setuptools? (fedora) << is there a text-gui ncurses for debian similar to this? |
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| 04:06.42 | pickcoder | bpun: no.. what is it? |
| 04:06.58 | pl4yer0ne | bpun, not that I am aware of. Most debian stuff is configured by well documented config files in /etc/ |
| 04:07.05 | bpun | pickcoder, for basic admin tasks (creating users/firewall/network interfaces) |
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| 04:07.27 | pickcoder | bpun: most of that is available in gnome or kde |
| 04:07.45 | Toad | hey all... anyone have any tricks for sending audio from a mac to a linux box's audio output? basically I want the linux box to show up like an "airtunes" endpoint |
| 04:08.03 | bpun | i just found out about it 2 days ago.. i was so used to using other ncurse tools.. (seems like 'setup' the command bin from setuptools package calls others -- such as ntsysv and system-config-network-tui) |
| 04:08.53 | enouf | Toad: dunno .. but was looking at an article about usinf AudioHijack for stuff .. i forget if for webcam streaming or something |
| 04:08.56 | bpun | pickcoder, (text-gui ncurses) |
| 04:09.10 | bpun | i already said it explicitly.. i already know about X apps.. |
| 04:09.12 | Toad | enouf: yea, worst case I can set up nicecast on the mac and use mplayer from the linux box |
| 04:09.26 | Toad | but I'd like something where linux is the server, rather than the client... just easier to deal with |
| 04:09.28 | enouf | Toad: well, there's mpd stuffs too |
| 04:09.45 | lokoabreu | pickcoder: i just was able to found "i2c_piix4" but not "piix4_smbus" |
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| 04:10.27 | pickcoder | Toad: http://rolf.haynberg.de/?p=14 |
| 04:10.38 | pl4yer0ne | Toad, you could try mt-daapd - iTunes-compatible DAAP server im not sure if that does what you want |
| 04:10.45 | enouf | lokoabreu: pastebin output of lshal | grep smbios |
| 04:11.01 | pl4yer0ne | oh no wait thats the wrong way round..... never mind |
| 04:11.03 | Toad | pl4yer0ne: nah that's the other way around... playing mp3s hosted on a linux box from the mac |
| 04:11.06 | Toad | :) |
| 04:11.36 | Toad | pickcoder: ah, looks like what I need... what you will need: "Time" nice :) as with all things linux |
| 04:12.05 | lokoabreu | enouf: didnt work for me |
| 04:12.24 | enouf | lokoabreu: is the i2c-tools pkg installed? (it's a part of lm-sensors, but specifically i2c related, but not all encompassing i2c) |
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| 04:12.38 | lokoabreu | enouf: im not sure |
| 04:13.00 | enouf | lokoabreu: sorry - came late - trying to find orig issue - and what "didn't work for me" ? |
| 04:13.50 | enouf | lokoabreu: which debian release and which kernel and whose? |
| 04:13.53 | pickcoder | enouf: [ 9.575124] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: Host SMBus controller not enabled! |
| 04:14.21 | enouf | pickcoder: yes, but is that from a remote DMI response? |
| 04:14.26 | Asad2005 | I am trying to install debian 5 and every time it reaches select and install please wait and seems to stay idle for so long. Any suggestion what could be the problem, i tried noapic option but same result |
| 04:14.30 | pickcoder | that's all that was posted |
| 04:14.40 | enouf | pickcoder: sigh |
| 04:14.42 | pickcoder | he wants to blacklist piix4_smbus |
| 04:14.49 | enouf | no reason to |
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| 04:15.09 | enouf | not without much more info ... like why |
| 04:15.36 | pickcoder | 6 seconds too long of a timeout |
| 04:15.46 | enouf | ~$ lsmod | grep piix4_smbus |
| 04:15.49 | enouf | nada |
| 04:15.52 | enouf | zippo |
| 04:16.07 | enouf | i'm on a pentium 2 here |
| 04:16.34 | enouf | i have things like; i2c_core 19828 1 i2c_piix4 |
| 04:16.34 | enouf | piix 6568 0 [permanent] |
| 04:16.35 | darmster | p2 rulez |
| 04:16.47 | enouf | and even; ide_core 92628 4 ide_cd_mod,ide_disk,piix,ide_pci_generic |
| 04:16.58 | enouf | he's not using Debian is my guess |
| 04:16.58 | pickcoder | ATA-100? |
| 04:17.08 | enouf | heh, no way |
| 04:17.13 | pickcoder | 133? |
| 04:17.14 | enouf | ATA-33 |
| 04:17.16 | pickcoder | oh |
| 04:17.26 | enouf | udma2 |
| 04:17.30 | pickcoder | and they're still spinning? |
| 04:17.42 | pickcoder | @ 80dB |
| 04:18.11 | pickcoder | heh |
| 04:18.12 | enouf | pickcoder: i watch DVDs, stream audio, 100s of brower windows open ... tons of IRC channels, 10 xterms ... all at once :-) |
| 04:18.32 | pickcoder | and you have 256MB of RAM? |
| 04:18.46 | enouf | pickcoder: 512M since some months now |
| 04:19.09 | lokoabreu | oh sorry wrong room |
| 04:19.11 | lokoabreu | im using fedora |
| 04:19.12 | Asad2005 | I am trying to install debian 5 and every time it reaches select and install please wait and seems to stay idle for so long. Any suggestion what could be the problem, i tried noapic option but same result |
| 04:19.12 | lokoabreu | bye :) |
| 04:19.14 | pickcoder | I would put Linux on my new desktop but I'd under use it |
| 04:19.21 | enouf | lokoabreu: wonderful |
| 04:19.26 | pickcoder | besides GTA4 is not available on Linux |
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| 04:20.47 | enouf | pickcoder: i have all sorts of systems and components here that need retooling/restoring - one is a 2001 2x Xeon Dell Server .. many others, even a new AMD64 3000+ s754 system ... still need to put it together - missing this and that to complete -- mess to clean up first |
| 04:21.01 | pickcoder | Asad2005: are you sure your drive controller is supported in the installer? |
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| 04:22.24 | Asad2005 | pickcoder, yes it gets idle after format and base install |
| 04:22.27 | enouf | pickcoder: Orig HDD in this p2 is 8.4GB and houses my / for now - i have other newer 80GB ATA100 Hitachi disks installed as well - for various reasons ;-) |
| 04:22.44 | pickcoder | I was eyeballing a new i7 system but it was a little pricey considering I was going to rip parts out and replace them anyway |
| 04:22.49 | enouf | pickcoder: but naturally, confined to udma2 speeds |
| 04:23.03 | enouf | pickcoder: you recall the intel 440BX set |
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| 04:23.05 | pickcoder | Asad2005: bad CD maybe? |
| 04:23.24 | pickcoder | enouf: yup.. do you remember Octek Hippo DCA and DCA2? |
| 04:23.37 | pickcoder | 486 days |
| 04:24.03 | enouf | pickcoder: a bit old for me - but i also have a baby-AT p150 |
| 04:24.09 | Asad2005 | pickcoder, I tried different CD and there seems to be no activity in CD or HD. is there away to find out what happens say from log or dmesg |
| 04:24.25 | pickcoder | Asad2005: there is a debug console on F...4 I think |
| 04:24.33 | mozzz | hi |
| 04:24.35 | mozzz | how can i use wlan in debian? |
| 04:24.39 | pickcoder | I could be wrong.. been a while since I've used the installer |
| 04:24.52 | enouf | pickcoder: tht thing even boots from cdrom, but only "specific" older isolinux ones, and win98 OEM CD, otherwise i use SBM ;-) |
| 04:25.54 | pickcoder | enouf: http://www.zisman.ca/Articles/1995/Octek.html |
| 04:26.24 | pickcoder | I owned a DX4-100 with 16MB of cache-RAM modules.. it smoked! |
| 04:26.32 | enouf | pickcoder: that BIOS can't handle these 80GB Hitachis unless jumpered down to 32G total - still .. not a big thrill .. i have other larger than 1.2G HDDs i could throw in there |
| 04:26.36 | pickcoder | Linux didn't know any different |
| 04:26.48 | enouf | pickcoder: (on the p150) |
| 04:27.06 | pickcoder | enouf: so stick a PCI card in it! |
| 04:27.33 | enouf | pickcoder: yes, i threw in a new dlink 10/100Base-T card for internet :-P |
| 04:27.47 | Asad2005 | pickcoder, nothing on console F4 but F1 got trying to enable the frame buffer .... |
| 04:28.17 | enouf | works the treat - bugs out on any WOL shit, but ... who cares |
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| 04:30.22 | aussie_hatter | i just noticed 'tcp6' showing up on netstat , what is this ? |
| 04:30.26 | enouf | Asad2005: hrm, try expert mode |
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| 04:30.40 | enouf | Asad2005: also BOOT_DEBUG=3 |
| 04:30.56 | pickcoder | bed time |
| 04:31.08 | enouf | Asad2005: see /msg dpkg ig ; boot params, chapter 5 |
| 04:31.15 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: nite |
| 04:31.20 | KC | Iceweasel managed to top a giog of RAM :| |
| 04:31.23 | KC | *gig |
| 04:31.26 | enouf | er pickcoder |
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| 04:31.46 | pl4yer0ne | cya enouf |
| 04:31.53 | pl4yer0ne | oh |
| 04:32.07 | enouf | KC: i have 3 browsers open always ... 2 SUCK ASS mostly |
| 04:32.11 | pl4yer0ne | cya pickcoder |
| 04:32.15 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: aye ;-) |
| 04:32.36 | enouf | KC: /msg dpkg link2 |
| 04:33.20 | enouf | KC: /msg dpkg links2 |
| 04:33.20 | pl4yer0ne | elinks is better |
| 04:33.20 | enouf | KC: the other suck ass ones are KonqOut and Midori |
| 04:33.37 | KC | interesting |
| 04:33.58 | KC | I don't think this would support most of my sites though, too damned much javascript these days |
| 04:34.05 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: i can't comment - too appy with links2 .. especially if needed in Console as GUI |
| 04:34.14 | KC | I can't even useiceweasel without letting some of them know to send firefox code |
| 04:34.16 | enouf | s/appy/happy/ |
| 04:34.33 | pl4yer0ne | yeah fair enough |
| 04:34.37 | enouf | KC: don't visit those sites - complain |
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| 04:34.46 | arcnewuss | when disconnect wlan0 i cannot reconnect unless i reboot |
| 04:35.11 | KC | enouf: I kind of need them for work |
| 04:35.13 | enouf | KC: i have to use the others from time to time just for that - https/forms/JSP/ASP/AJAX .. BozoCode |
| 04:35.23 | mischief6 | arcnewuss, try unloading and reloading the module? |
| 04:35.31 | enouf | KC: for most things - links2 -g just works |
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| 04:35.41 | KC | will try it at least |
| 04:35.50 | enouf | it might not be pretty, but it's FAST! |
| 04:36.20 | enouf | and you can search the pages like manpages using '/' ; searchterm ; enter |
| 04:36.56 | enouf | KC: there's a ton of keyboard shortcuts built in to learn |
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| 04:37.31 | enouf | hit '\' and it's HTML -> Text source ... instantly |
| 04:38.00 | KC | hrm, I'm getting errors from the webpages that say there's no javascript access at all |
| 04:38.15 | enouf | KC: but the searchterm thing? it highlights ALL instances immediately |
| 04:38.35 | enouf | no need to keep clicking alt+f or whatever |
| 04:38.46 | enouf | KC: enable it |
| 04:38.55 | enouf | !links2 settings |
| 04:38.56 | dpkg | links2 settings is probably You can allocate more RAM + resources to links2, see File > Resource Info (and Memory Info) -- and then Settings > Cache (to set sizes). Then remember to do Settings > Save Options (once you like them) config file is in ~/.links2/links.cfg. Press [ESC] Help > keys to see some key bindings, and links.twibright.com and http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html for more - use [ESC] to toggle menu bar (or just click that area) |
| 04:39.57 | enouf | KC: please don't ask me to hand hold you through this - see ESC, (or just click where the imaginary menu bar would be) .. then Settings > |
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| 04:41.34 | enouf | KC: install apt-listchanges (i know there have been some changes concerning SSL support, and maybe even JavaSHIT support) .. i have like the etch Lenny version installed here |
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| 04:42.34 | seria-mau | is it possible to have multiple imap configurations with different sslVersions in stunnel.conf? i did the following but can't connect to the second configuration: http://paste.debian.net/30473/ but the second one immediately closes connection |
| 04:42.52 | enouf | KC: the main advantage, for those that need/want a GUI browser in Console is links2 -g can and does do it .. but in X ? hehe, it's just fucken FAST |
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| 04:43.19 | enouf | and lightwright and all that |
| 04:43.30 | enouf | s/weight |
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| 04:46.25 | enouf | KC: i have a 15/2mbit cable connection here - and when i hit large/fast servers with wget or links2 i get awesome speeds, (1.7MB/sec) .. but loading CRAPPY SHITTY web pages in all those other browsers is worse than Dialup from 1992 |
| 04:47.42 | KC | hrm |
| 04:47.47 | KC | does this support cookies at all? |
| 04:48.27 | enouf | KC: listen - i heard something for Firepoop/Icecrap ... disable ipv6 support in about:config |
| 04:48.37 | enouf | yes |
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| 04:50.12 | enouf | KC: i forget the exact 'filter' name ... like ns.enable.ipv6=true ... make that say false |
| 04:50.25 | KC | yeah did... its a lot faster now |
| 04:50.28 | KC | fuck |
| 04:50.38 | KC | does that mean ipv6 is gonna wreck the internet? |
| 04:50.49 | enouf | who da man |
| 04:51.25 | Dewio | aah ipv6 |
| 04:51.27 | enouf | KC: i can name 4445557435333 other things that already have - where shall we start? |
| 04:51.37 | Dewio | here's 10 years of disabling it to make things work! |
| 04:52.06 | KC | sooner or later, shit isn't going to work without it |
| 04:52.13 | KC | it'll be worse than javascript |
| 04:52.25 | enouf | KC: i saw that mentioned via a notable resident "xingu" ... thank him |
| 04:52.40 | enouf | i don't use Firepoop |
| 04:53.00 | KC | I suppose ipv6 will probably be faster once everything is using it |
| 04:53.05 | mozzz | hi, I'm a newbie with debian. I don't know how to connect to my wlan. Can someody help me? |
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| 04:53.22 | KC | and its not trying to get dns requests froma single overloaded server |
| 04:53.39 | KC | mozz: what wireless card? |
| 04:53.40 | enouf | KC: computers are smart eh? |
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| 04:54.06 | KC | this explains why nothing I've done would make DNS go faster though |
| 04:54.08 | enouf | KC: can you say "hi HAL9000"? |
| 04:54.22 | khaije1 | KC: how does ipv6 route if there arent geographical constraints |
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| 04:54.42 | KC | khaije1: huh? |
| 04:55.10 | KC | Isn't routing the same as ipv4? |
| 04:55.38 | mozzz | I'm trying to use wifi-radar but it seems it doesn't find any network |
| 04:55.47 | enouf | KC: why does you nick make me think of Southern Fried Chicken (albeit - genetically modified and engineered ones, without even heads) |
| 04:56.02 | KC | heheheh |
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| 04:56.09 | khaije1 | KC: i probably don't understand if well enough to ask a well formed question, but it's something i've been wondering |
| 04:56.26 | khaije1 | s/if/it |
| 04:56.57 | KC | the only real difference with ipv6 i know of is more adresses, and subnetting thats doesn't make people who don't get binary try to kill themselves |
| 04:56.59 | enouf | thanks God for xanax + liquor |
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| 04:57.52 | enouf | any children watching - ignore that please - only for adults over ... say 30+ |
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| 04:58.20 | litwol|mac | laf |
| 04:58.32 | litwol|mac | i think all the children would be sitting in #ubuntu |
| 04:59.14 | pl4yer0ne | later all, it is pub o'clock |
| 04:59.14 | enouf | you surmise you can tell whom the 800+ are here are? |
| 04:59.27 | Dewio | pl4yer0ne: 3pm? agreed. |
| 04:59.32 | pl4yer0ne | nah 4pm |
| 04:59.38 | enouf | pl4yer0ne: sink the 8ball on break |
| 04:59.39 | pl4yer0ne | crazy qld'ers |
| 04:59.54 | pl4yer0ne | how did you know we have a pool table at work? =D |
| 05:00.02 | enouf | !8ball will pl4yer0ne win the game? |
| 05:00.03 | dpkg | Negative. |
| 05:00.09 | enouf | uh oh |
| 05:00.17 | pl4yer0ne | pfft whatever i will win a beer |
| 05:00.23 | pl4yer0ne | and thats all that matters |
| 05:00.30 | pl4yer0ne | bye |
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| 05:00.35 | enouf | dpkg: hug pl4yer0ne |
| 05:00.36 | dpkg | gives pl4yer0ne a hug |
| 05:00.52 | Sisk | Anyone have any suggestions for a good wireless connection manager that's not tied to gnome or kde? |
| 05:01.16 | enouf | !wcld |
| 05:01.22 | enouf | !wlcd |
| 05:01.26 | enouf | crap |
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| 05:01.44 | enouf | judd: versions wlcd |
| 05:01.45 | judd | enouf: wlcd -- |
| 05:01.47 | hark | wicd? |
| 05:01.53 | enouf | judd: versions wicd |
| 05:01.53 | judd | enouf: wicd -- sid: 1.5.2-1 sid: 1.5.9-1 squeeze: 1.5.9-1 sid: 1.5.9-4 |
| 05:01.55 | nIl\ | hey, i want latest system |
| 05:01.59 | nIl\ | what should go in my sources.list? |
| 05:02.04 | enouf | hark: thank you |
| 05:02.18 | nIl\ | switching from fedora because it pisses me off hacking kernel on it w/o nice make-kpkg :) |
| 05:02.42 | enouf | stew: is judd brainfarting again? |
| 05:02.56 | nIl\ | ? |
| 05:03.20 | stew | bah |
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| 05:03.27 | enouf | heh |
| 05:03.31 | stew | enouf: hows' that for an answer? |
| 05:03.44 | enouf | 3 sids and one squeeze :-P |
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| 05:03.58 | nIl\ | are you guys talking to me? |
| 05:04.06 | enouf | no |
| 05:04.09 | enouf | not yet |
| 05:04.16 | nIl\ | oh ok |
| 05:04.22 | stew | i'm just going to delete from packages where suite='sid' and start fresh |
| 05:04.22 | nIl\ | dpkg: latest debian |
| 05:04.22 | dpkg | nIl\: i haven't a clue |
| 05:04.35 | nIl\ | dpkg: sources.list |
| 05:04.36 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 05:05.03 | enouf | nIl\: you can /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 05:06.00 | nIl\ | enouf: sorry |
| 05:06.08 | nIl\ | i just need to know what to replace lenny with in sources.list |
| 05:06.15 | nIl\ | its late here and i wan tto update overnight |
| 05:06.26 | Sisk | sid for the newest stuff |
| 05:06.27 | stew | DELETE 207387 |
| 05:06.33 | nIl\ | thanks |
| 05:06.43 | nIl\ | Sisk: is that a joke on RISC CISC? |
| 05:06.46 | Sisk | Or unstable. They amount to the same thing |
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| 05:07.49 | nIl\ | thanks much |
| 05:07.51 | nIl\ | have a good night |
| 05:09.07 | Sisk | So anyone know a wireless manager that a non-geek (my wife) can comfortably use that plays nice with fluxbox? |
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| 05:10.14 | stew | judd: versions wicd |
| 05:10.15 | judd | stew: wicd -- squeeze: 1.5.9-1 |
| 05:10.17 | stew | enouf: better? |
| 05:10.36 | stew | (i know, its not, but its a good intermediate step) |
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| 05:13.56 | bugjar | hola. what other packages besides lwresd does DNS name resolution for client systems (rather than name servers)? |
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| 05:14.51 | enouf | stew: sorry - having trouble focusing now - just want to inform you when i find an 'issue' ... and thanks |
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| 05:15.20 | streuner_ | !+tell bugjar -about search |
| 05:15.21 | enouf | but yes, better |
| 05:15.21 | dpkg | told bugjar about search. |
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| 05:16.34 | enouf | Sisk: give your wife winXP |
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| 05:17.35 | enouf | Sisk: wifi is all (most) proprietary CRAP and firmware, and nobody does that better than redmond |
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| 05:18.00 | Sisk | Um...no. I have to use this lappy to and I get about all the Windows time I can stand at work. Besides, she doesn't like Windows much better than I do. |
| 05:18.03 | centHOGG | hi |
| 05:18.29 | enouf | Sisk: show her the "features" ... she'll come to love it |
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| 05:19.51 | enouf | Sisk: think of all the SWF and AJAX and JAVA shit that will work as "features" |
| 05:20.15 | bugjar | frowns |
| 05:20.34 | Sisk | Right....I can get all that stuff on Debian just fine thanks. |
| 05:20.58 | enouf | thinks of himself as the Macy's store owner from Miracle on 34th street |
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| 05:21.26 | Sisk | Seriously though, I've rubbed off on her to the point that she hasn't fired up the Windows partition I set up on my desktop for her in months. And if she did run Windows, she'd want BB4Win. |
| 05:21.40 | bugjar | enouf - you're taking Kris to court? |
| 05:22.42 | bugjar | so where does the --installed option get used in apt-cache? |
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| 05:24.35 | enouf | hears "slowride" by Foghat on the radio and whips out his Album ... "NightShift" ... |
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| 05:24.55 | enouf | also grabs Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush as a backup |
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| 05:26.00 | rgr | do you guys reckon I need to run firestarter on a servers that already behind a router which only lets through ssh and http anyway? |
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| 05:26.25 | stew | rgr: what network traffic are you trying to block? |
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| 05:26.53 | stew | rgr: (if you can't sensibly answer that question, you don't need a firewall) |
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| 05:27.22 | rgr | stew: I'm not specifically. Its a mail server (imap too is allowed sorry) and a web server. I port forwarded the ones I want which actually now I think about it are zabbix, irc, ssh, smtp and http. |
| 05:27.29 | edison04 | Help i did by accident partimage restore /dev/sda my_sda1_img_backup.000 i exit the program so i only erased the mbr and a small part of sda1 ... what the best way to recover the logical disk with the /proc file system... ? |
| 05:27.56 | stew | rgr: that's stuff you want to allow, what network traffic hits that box that you need to block? |
| 05:28.23 | rgr | thats a strange question. One would think any that I dont specically want. e.g that list. |
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| 05:28.48 | rgr | but I guess my hw router is doing the blocking anyway. |
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| 05:29.33 | stew | rgr: there is no reason to put up a firewall to block traffic that can't be routed to that firewall in the first place |
| 05:29.42 | bugjar | ouch. tried to change gnome-terminal's background color from default and boom--they all went out! |
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| 05:30.10 | kenboo | edison04: boot from cd-rom and check the damage on /dev/sda1 |
| 05:30.24 | bpun | sysv-rc-conf << anyone knows of other tools like this? |
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| 05:30.39 | kenboo | edison04: take a backup first. |
| 05:30.41 | bpun | (/tools/packages) |
| 05:30.45 | rgr | thats what I'm saying / asking. I think you've just confirmed. Thanks. Its just that firestarter was occasionally failing for some reason and blocking out imap and/or ssh. I guess I should look into the logs at some stage. Anyway, I removed it. |
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| 05:31.07 | bpun | rgr, blocking for imap? |
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| 05:31.41 | edison04 | kenboo, i running on that system right now ... and if i reboot i will lost my logical disk ... what about the /proc/partitions ? |
| 05:31.56 | bpun | bugjar, u may want to check out xtermcontrol .. it allows to change xterm's background on the fly.. i just found out about it |
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| 05:32.13 | bpun | edison04, maybe ur using lvm? |
| 05:32.53 | kenboo | edison04: oh ic. as for reparing mbr, I would run grub, and enter setup command |
| 05:33.24 | bpun | kenboo, lenny's installer isnt efi by default? |
| 05:34.00 | kenboo | uh...that I don't know. I just dist-upgrade from etch.. :-) |
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| 05:34.24 | bugjar | bpun - thanks. i also need to work out the terminal char settings for xterm...xterm translates the alt keys for me and it makes it hard to switch channels in irssi :) |
| 05:34.57 | mozzz | hi, I need to learn how to set wireless connection in debian |
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| 05:37.02 | hark | bugjar: metaSendsEscape |
| 05:37.34 | bugjar | hark : where? in the my shell rc file? |
| 05:37.55 | bpun | mozzz, i dont know how well this runs but i spotted this ->network-config package |
| 05:37.56 | bugjar | hark : ohhh, irrsi.conf file |
| 05:38.09 | hark | no no |
| 05:38.44 | hark | in your .Xdefaults |
| 05:38.52 | bpun | bugjar, there's something called escape codes but i'm clueless about... not sure if in debian this is the standard (use xrdb command for onfly changes instead of relogging into X for testing ) |
| 05:39.14 | bpun | bugjar, (google X resources for Xterm --- for some distros it's in ~/.Xresources) |
| 05:39.36 | hark | XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true |
| 05:39.37 | bpun | hark, ah..:).. is it .Xdefaults or .Xresources? |
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| 05:40.17 | tony426 | i want to make a symbolic link from /home to another disk but my apps still write to it. does it not work recursively? |
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| 05:40.27 | bugjar | hark how do i then send funny characters? ...not that i can figure out which keypress will give me the right spanish character... |
| 05:40.43 | bpun | tony426, man mount |
| 05:40.53 | bpun | tony426, make home a mountpoint, not a symlink |
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| 05:42.29 | tony426 | it's mounted or i wouldn't be here typing this |
| 05:42.51 | tony426 | xchat's running from my home folder |
| 05:43.54 | tony426 | i have both accomplished already, it's mounted and not a symlink. now what? |
| 05:44.34 | hark | bugjar: funny characters? |
| 05:44.36 | edison-04 | Help i did by accident partimage restore /dev/sda my_sda1_img_backup.000 i exit the program so i only erased the mbr and a small part of sda1 ... what the best way to recover the logical disk with the /proc/partition file system with sfdisk ? |
| 05:45.21 | elik | edison-04, backups? |
| 05:45.32 | edison-04 | yes |
| 05:45.54 | edison-04 | but i don't have the backup.sf file |
| 05:46.27 | edison-04 | but i have that /proc/partition |
| 05:46.52 | elik | edison-04, backups should not be on the same hard drive, or they are totally useless |
| 05:47.42 | edison-04 | elik, lol i know |
| 05:48.29 | bpun | tony426, boot into runlevel 1 umount /home and see if there are any files in /home .. transfer the old data to the new drive (mount your real 'home' parition under /mnt/other, and manually copy stuff in /home to /mnt/other) |
| 05:48.40 | elik | edison-04, error revory is easiest with backupds.. as for this sfdisk and such.. sorry, can't help |
| 05:49.08 | bpun | tony426, (then obviously wipe out /home/* from the old drive) |
| 05:49.31 | bpun | tony426, if the invalid drive is being written to.. its because /home isnt mounted |
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| 05:49.46 | litwol|mac | what is the best compression rate for text file ? |
| 05:49.53 | tony426 | ok, thanks. how do i mount a folder as a drive? |
| 05:49.55 | litwol|mac | gz/gz2/zip |
| 05:49.56 | litwol|mac | ? |
| 05:49.59 | litwol|mac | which should i use ? |
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| 05:50.35 | bpun | tony426, the folder is called the mountpoint |
| 05:50.40 | elik | litwol|mac, is that so very critical? |
| 05:50.43 | doleyb | litwol|mac: i find bz2 has more compressions |
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| 05:50.51 | elik | litwol|mac, can't you try it? |
| 05:50.54 | litwol|mac | ok i'll google how to bz2 |
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| 05:51.04 | litwol|mac | ty |
| 05:51.05 | elik | litwol|mac, or you are backing up a whole database |
| 05:51.22 | litwol|mac | aside backing up whole db, i'm learning new stuff :) |
| 05:51.31 | bpun | tony426, though u may be able to write to it which is malpractice, those files previously under that directory would disappear after being used as a mountpoint.. and would reappear after unmounting the mountpoint |
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| 05:52.42 | tony426 | bpun: thanks. i think i can figure the rest out. if not, i know enough to probably find by google |
| 05:53.15 | bpun | tony426, what fs type is the home partition? |
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| 05:54.42 | tony426 | it's ntfs |
| 05:55.31 | bpun | tony426, ntfs hmm.. i dont have experience nor am sure if its safe to use ntfs as a home drive.. |
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| 05:55.47 | mozzz | hi |
| 05:56.02 | mozzz | i have a problem with the wlan |
| 05:56.13 | mozzz | can somebody help me? |
| 05:56.20 | bpun | mozzz, network-config package worked? |
| 05:56.33 | bpun | mozzz, (up to a point?) |
| 05:56.33 | mozzz | i check |
| 05:56.36 | SerajewelKS | mozzz: somebody might be able to help you if you provide more information than "i have a problem" |
| 05:56.50 | mozzz | the problem is: |
| 05:56.54 | litwol|mac | maybe it was a mistake trying to compress 2.2G file with bzip -9 compression :-\ |
| 05:57.09 | mozzz | at the beginning the hardware was configured |
| 05:57.29 | mozzz | but i couldn't capture any wireless signale |
| 05:57.34 | SerajewelKS | litwol|mac: -9 is the default |
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| 05:57.40 | litwol|mac | oh cool |
| 05:57.41 | litwol|mac | thanks |
| 05:57.45 | mozzz | now the hardware too is unset |
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| 05:58.26 | mozzz | since i installed madwifi-source madwifi-tools |
| 05:58.31 | aetheria | is there any condition under which a dist-upgrade of mysql-server would cause entire db's in /var/lib/mysql to disappear? |
| 05:58.35 | mozzz | was it a mistake to install madwifi-source madwifi-tools? |
| 05:58.52 | aetheria | mozzz: you have an atheros chipset? |
| 05:59.58 | bpun | aetheria, hahaha that sucks |
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| 06:00.44 | aetheria | bpun: grepping through your browser cache for no longer existent data sucks worse :-( |
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| 06:01.56 | moz | bpun, i should i launch network-config? |
| 06:02.04 | bpun | aetheria, that makes no sense--> just use about:cache if u do offline crap.. i dont know what ur spitting |
| 06:02.28 | aetheria | wtf is about:cache? |
| 06:02.44 | bpun | aetheria, in the url-- like about:config (firefox can do) |
| 06:03.04 | bpun | no need for grepping |
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| 06:04.22 | aetheria | i see some url's i want but then clicking on them just gives a bunch of useless binary data |
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| 06:05.01 | aetheria | 89 93 a0 06 92 type stuff |
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| 06:06.26 | kindyroot | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.02 | aetheria | kindyroot: was /home a separate partition? |
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| 06:07.42 | moz | bpun, network config doesn't find di wlan0 |
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| 06:07.53 | bpun | kindyroot, ur little brother installed a new OS on the system? hahahaaa |
| 06:08.24 | moz | hallo? |
| 06:08.27 | bpun | moz, then um.. work on getting wlan0 showing up |
| 06:08.40 | bpun | moz, i thought ur driver was installed... |
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| 06:09.01 | kindyroot | bpun: no no he didn't install anything :D |
| 06:09.15 | kindyroot | aetheria: yes it was a separate ext3 partition |
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| 06:09.45 | bpun | kindyroot, are u using 2 physical harddrives? |
| 06:10.07 | bpun | kindyroot, u mean cold booted or warm booted? |
| 06:10.19 | aetheria | kindyroot: what does mount command say? is it mounted? |
| 06:10.27 | aetheria | kindyroot: if not, try to manually mount it |
| 06:10.51 | bpun | moz, wlan0 doesnt show up anywhere/ |
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| 06:10.53 | bpun | moz, |
| 06:10.55 | bpun | ? |
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| 06:11.21 | kindyroot | bpun: only one physical hard drive |
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| 06:11.56 | bpun | kindyroot, is that drive a usb drive? |
| 06:12.06 | kindyroot | aetheria: it appears to be mounted but i need to check if that is not another partition that my brother has redirected to be /home |
| 06:12.28 | kindyroot | bpun: it is an IDE hard drive |
| 06:12.31 | kindyroot | internal |
| 06:12.50 | bpun | kindyroot, cat /etc/fstab |
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| 06:13.46 | kindyroot | i think he actually made another partition to serve as /home |
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| 06:14.06 | kindyroot | the real /home appears with a wrong size and ont mount it says: |
| 06:14.07 | kindyroot | Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.4" (uid=1002 pid=2315 comm="pcmanfm -d ") interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member="Mount" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=2113 comm="/usr/sbin/hald ")) |
| 06:14.17 | bpun | kindyroot, well hehehe... go for runtime for ext2 or some recovery tool.. |
| 06:14.26 | bpun | kindyroot, fdisk -l ? |
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| 06:14.39 | bpun | kindyroot, there's 2 commands i gave u.. ur on ur own bye |
| 06:14.40 | kindyroot | bpun: i try that right now |
| 06:14.55 | \amethyst | kindyroot: try mounting mounting it from the command line, as root |
| 06:14.56 | kindyroot | bpun: thanks a lot |
| 06:14.58 | bpun | kindyroot, ok.. at least try the other one too |
| 06:15.08 | bpun | kindyroot, otherwise ur just whinning for nothing |
| 06:15.11 | kindyroot | okey right now |
| 06:15.13 | kindyroot | doing that |
| 06:15.57 | bpun | kindyroot, u can apt-get install xclip--> cat fstab | xclip (then middle-mouse button in pastebin.ca) |
| 06:16.29 | kindyroot | i have a bad news! |
| 06:16.35 | kindyroot | it says fstab dosn't exist |
| 06:16.43 | kindyroot | could it be deleted? |
| 06:17.05 | moz_ | pls, is anybody there who is willing to help me? |
| 06:17.18 | moz_ | my ifconfig finds: |
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| 06:17.39 | bpun | moz, ^^ use the xlip command trick i gave kindyroot |
| 06:17.48 | bpun | moz, (also pastebin.ca can help) |
| 06:17.53 | moz_ | ath0. ath0:avahi, eth0, lo, wifi0-00 |
| 06:18.01 | kindyroot | fstab is there i confirm |
| 06:18.11 | moz_ | my dhclient connects to eth0 |
| 06:18.18 | bpun | kindyroot, pastebin it |
| 06:18.43 | bpun | moz_, pastebin it? |
| 06:18.53 | kindyroot | bpun: ok |
| 06:18.57 | moz_ | what information more do you need to be ready to help me? |
| 06:18.59 | bpun | makes it easier to see |
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| 06:19.16 | kindyroot | bpun: actually it was ext2 not ext3 |
| 06:19.21 | kindyroot | i pastebin |
| 06:19.24 | bpun | moz_, that output from ifconfig (ifconfig -a |xlip) |
| 06:19.39 | bpun | kindyroot, u'll have to post the url.. |
| 06:19.42 | moz_ | my /etc/network/interfaces says: |
| 06:19.49 | moz_ | allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 06:19.50 | moz_ | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 06:20.02 | moz_ | should i comment these lines? |
| 06:20.06 | bpun | moz_, u can apt-get install xclip--> cat fstab | xclip (then middle-mouse button in pastebin.ca) |
| 06:20.21 | bpun | moz_, actually its 'ifconfig -a |xclip' |
| 06:20.30 | kindyroot | bpun: hahaha i meant i was doing it lol |
| 06:20.36 | elik | bpun, aptitude install pastbinit is pretty awsome too |
| 06:20.46 | kindyroot | bpun: http://pastebin.com/m6a370f5b |
| 06:20.51 | bpun | i know.. but xclip works for even nonpastebin sites |
| 06:21.03 | elik | bpun, would make it cat fstab | pastebinit - |
| 06:21.18 | bpun | kindyroot, /media/other ? |
| 06:21.36 | elik | bpun, yeah, I didn't know about xclip, that's nice |
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| 06:22.41 | kindyroot | bpun: this is a blank partition with a few files in it |
| 06:23.28 | bpun | kindyroot, pastebin 'mount'? |
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| 06:24.11 | kindyroot | ok |
| 06:24.37 | kindyroot | http://pastebin.com/m4afffdae |
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| 06:26.08 | bpun | kindyroot, # |
| 06:26.08 | bpun | #/dev/hda4 /home ext2 defaults 0 2 |
| 06:26.08 | bpun | # |
| 06:26.08 | bpun | /dev/hda4 none swap sw 0 0 |
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| 06:26.27 | bpun | ^^ |
| 06:26.33 | kindyroot | bpun: i believe the real /home is dev/hda7 |
| 06:26.34 | kindyroot | lol |
| 06:26.36 | bpun | wasnt more than 5 lines |
| 06:26.52 | bpun | kindyroot, did u make the swap drive as above? |
| 06:27.14 | moz_ | j |
| 06:27.23 | moz_ | hallo? |
| 06:27.34 | kindyroot | on boot time it said it couldn't mount dev/hda7 press any key to reboot, then it didn't reboot and it resumed the boot process |
| 06:27.46 | bpun | kindyroot, swap -s (shows if swap is being used) |
| 06:27.57 | kindyroot | bpun: ok i do that |
| 06:28.11 | bpun | kindyroot, again.. did u make those changes? |
| 06:28.35 | kindyroot | it says this command does not exist |
| 06:28.46 | kindyroot | what changes? wasn't swap like that? |
| 06:28.49 | kindyroot | i verify |
| 06:28.52 | bpun | kindyroot, was ur bro root or what? |
| 06:28.58 | kindyroot | no |
| 06:29.06 | kindyroot | he just pressed the button |
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| 06:29.28 | bpun | kindyroot, how many distros are on the machine? |
| 06:29.29 | kindyroot | after crash (due to a heavy opengl program |
| 06:29.41 | bpun | kindyroot, were u running it as root? |
| 06:29.54 | kindyroot | bpun: Debian and a small experimental shit he uses |
| 06:29.54 | Sa[i]nT1 | Is there a program to watch tv on my comp? |
| 06:30.08 | bpun | kindyroot, explain |
| 06:30.10 | kindyroot | bpun: no not as root |
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| 06:30.35 | bpun | kindyroot, were u using the opengl program under this same setup? |
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| 06:31.05 | kindyroot | bpun: our main system is debian, but i had seen a dyne::bolic entry in the grub menu, i thing he just installed that in / no dedicated partitions |
| 06:31.18 | kindyroot | bpun: yes in debian |
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| 06:31.44 | bpun | kindyroot, u told me he didnt install anything now ur telling me he did |
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| 06:31.47 | moz_ | wifi-radar finds my access-point |
| 06:31.54 | Boohbah | Sa[i]nT1: mythtv |
| 06:32.22 | bpun | moz_, still waiting for ur ifconfig -a pastebin |
| 06:32.39 | kindyroot | bpun: i seen in fstab the swap is already as you said it should be |
| 06:33.02 | kindyroot | bpun: this was an old install |
| 06:33.24 | kindyroot | bpun: he installed dyne bolic more that two months ago |
| 06:33.41 | bpun | kindyroot, i mean recently before this boot thingie... |
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| 06:33.53 | kindyroot | no no new install |
| 06:34.01 | bpun | kindyroot, so it was opengl on this debian.. i guess there's nothing else installed on the drive? |
| 06:34.05 | moz_ | bpun, http://pastebin.com/m7660ac43 |
| 06:34.43 | kindyroot | bpun: of course there are plenty of other programs, and /home was full of data too |
| 06:35.03 | kindyroot | bpun: is there a way to force the filesystem check? |
| 06:35.07 | moz_ | bpun, now you have it |
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| 06:36.22 | kindyroot | i was wrong it says /dev/hda7 does not exist |
| 06:36.23 | bpun | kindyroot, um.. |
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| 06:38.00 | bpun | kindyroot, what are u telling me? |
| 06:38.13 | kindyroot | bpun: http://pastebin.com/m7da1e52e |
| 06:38.17 | sparr | How does apt define 'too many', and how can I override that? "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." |
| 06:38.20 | bpun | kindyroot, of a hardware failure or u screwed something up on a nondebian system? |
| 06:38.40 | moz_ | bpun, http://pastebin.com/m7660ac43 |
| 06:38.41 | kindyroot | bpun: that there is no dev/hda7 (the boot process had complained it couldn't mount that) |
| 06:38.53 | khaije1 | what is the software for remote view of a in-progress session on a remote computer? |
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| 06:39.46 | kindyroot | bpun: i am not sure if that's a hardware failure, but you can ignore the existence of nondebian systems since they were not in use |
| 06:40.03 | bpun | kindyroot, are u using debian or not? |
| 06:40.07 | sparr | khaije1: x11vnc and any vnc client |
| 06:40.16 | kindyroot | bpun: I am |
| 06:40.23 | khaije1 | sparr: roger that, thx sparr |
| 06:40.27 | bpun | kindyroot, then why is that command not avail? |
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| 06:40.34 | kindyroot | bpun: right now i am talking to you from debian :D |
| 06:40.54 | kindyroot | bpun: i don't know, i am using lenny |
| 06:41.00 | khaije1 | sparr: will that allow me to connect to the xdm if there isn't a session in use? |
| 06:41.26 | sparr | khades: i am not sure. possibly, but the setup would be different than typical |
| 06:41.28 | kindyroot | bash: swap: command not found |
| 06:41.28 | kindyroot | debianpc:/etc# |
| 06:41.53 | bpun | kindyroot, um swap command should be there |
| 06:42.16 | khaije1 | sparr: mkay |
| 06:42.16 | bpun | but also ur drive (40gb) is definitely more than X years old.. |
| 06:42.18 | kindyroot | khaijel: or just connect in ssh and monitor whatever session you like |
| 06:42.30 | kindyroot | bpun: can I apt-get it? |
| 06:42.34 | bpun | however it appears functional |
| 06:42.46 | kindyroot | hmm .. |
| 06:42.47 | bpun | kindyroot, did u su or su - ? |
| 06:42.48 | khaije1 | kindyroot: i'm already ssh'd in, how do i do what you suggest? |
| 06:42.52 | kindyroot | su |
| 06:42.55 | bpun | kindyroot, use su - |
| 06:43.05 | bpun | kindyroot, then type swap -s |
| 06:43.17 | kindyroot | khaijel: what do you want to do? |
| 06:43.20 | kindyroot | bpun: ok |
| 06:43.57 | kindyroot | bpun: still not found |
| 06:43.59 | kindyroot | :s |
| 06:44.03 | bpun | kindyroot, if need be-- u can also show me ur history if its bash that was used (history | tail -20 |xclip) |
| 06:44.04 | khaije1 | initiate a full gui session that will run local to the server ( iow not x-forwarding ) that i can view from elsewhere |
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| 06:44.20 | bpun | kindyroot, i think u did something in root |
| 06:44.32 | bpun | kindyroot, btw is this lenny-stable or beta thats installed? |
| 06:45.08 | kindyroot | bpun: I think it's beta |
| 06:45.29 | bpun | kindyroot, u can 'cat /etc/debian' to tell if it is |
| 06:45.37 | kindyroot | bpun: i am looking for hostory .. |
| 06:45.42 | khaije1 | kindyroot: i'm particular i'm curious if there is a solution that will let me view the xdm sign in screen |
| 06:45.46 | bpun | or /etc/debian_version |
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| 06:46.18 | bpun | khaije1, nomachine's (free deb from site) |
| 06:46.27 | bpun | khaije1, (nxserver) |
| 06:46.50 | bpun | kindyroot, thats a command |
| 06:47.04 | kindyroot | yeah yeah |
| 06:47.06 | bpun | kindyroot, if u dont mind u can paste it to me in priv msg |
| 06:47.19 | kindyroot | okey |
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| 06:47.29 | bpun | might contain some important stuff |
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| 06:47.54 | kindyroot | bpun: debianpc:~# history | tail -20 |xclip |
| 06:47.54 | kindyroot | Error: Can't open display: (null) |
| 06:48.09 | lightcap | am I reading this right? is bug 85123 still open? from 2001? |
| 06:48.24 | khaije1 | bpun: i've used that before.... i never saw much of an improvement over vnc connections (only used it on lan's) |
| 06:48.50 | kindyroot | khaijel: then only VNC will allow you to do that ! |
| 06:48.53 | bpun | kindyroot, its only 20 lines.. so a X mouse selection can do |
| 06:49.22 | bpun | khaije1, um.. nxserver uses vnc technology |
| 06:49.42 | bpun | khaije1, u never tried it |
| 06:49.48 | kindyroot | bpun: so how do i get it? :s |
| 06:50.00 | bpun | kindyroot, in an xterm box? |
| 06:50.15 | bpun | kindyroot, "su -" in an xterm box? |
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| 06:50.34 | kindyroot | a clone called terminal (from xlde) |
| 06:50.37 | maxagaz | how to configure a gateway ? |
| 06:50.37 | khaije1 | bpun: nxserver uses NX technology, which is based on a compressed and cached xdmp, they are not identical or interchangable |
| 06:50.42 | kindyroot | bpun yes |
| 06:50.45 | maxagaz | how to set a gateway ? |
| 06:50.52 | bpun | khaije1, there's a history to everything |
| 06:51.15 | bpun | khaije1, i dont know whats behind the names.. but if u want what u want i know it works in 1 step |
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| 06:52.08 | bpun | gosh |
| 06:52.30 | khaije1 | bpun: ok, i appreciate it |
| 06:52.43 | kindyroot | bpun: is there another way we can see the root logs to know if he did something wrong? |
| 06:52.56 | bpun | maxagaz, apt-cache search nat |
| 06:53.38 | bpun | kindyroot, when is ur crazy bro returning from work? ask him.. i cant think of anything else sorry :/ lol |
| 06:54.41 | kindyroot | bpun: he will be returning back from his sleep soon xD, thank you very much, I cost you a lot of time :) |
| 06:54.45 | moz_ | bpun, did you read the pastebin? |
| 06:54.53 | bpun | kindyroot, try typing "last" << another logger |
| 06:55.07 | bpun | (well not a logger, but peruses who last entered system) |
| 06:55.08 | kindyroot | ok |
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| 06:55.20 | bpun | and see if u nitwitted brother logged in as root |
| 06:55.30 | bpun | lol |
| 06:56.13 | bpun | kindyroot, i think i know why u dont have a /etc/debian_version file << its because u must be using a nondebian distro.. come clean already |
| 06:56.48 | bpun | moz_, i didnt see it |
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| 06:57.27 | moz_ | bpun, http://pastebin.com/m7660ac43 |
| 06:58.07 | moz_ | wifi-radar says: connected to mywlan ip(none) |
| 06:58.32 | kindyroot | bpun: I didn never say i had not a debian_version file! |
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| 06:58.37 | moz_ | what does it mean? that it catchs the signal but it didnìt get a permission |
| 06:58.40 | moz_ | ? |
| 06:58.44 | kindyroot | i said had not the swap command |
| 06:58.59 | moz_ | bpun, did you see it now? |
| 06:59.01 | kindyroot | bpun: I am actually running Debian Lenny |
| 06:59.19 | bpun | moz_, i'm wondering why it doesn't say 'wireless' in ur ifconfig -a anywhere.. |
| 06:59.22 | kindyroot | it's a blank file with a single line that says 5.0 |
| 07:00.18 | aixenv | so what did you guys think the best filesystem is for a server doing lots of rsyncs nightly and needs optimum disk i/o & speed? |
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| 07:00.30 | bpun | kindyroot, want me to ssh into the system? lol |
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| 07:00.42 | kindyroot | bpun i don't mind |
| 07:00.50 | moz_ | It used to say it, until i installed madwifi-source madwifi-tools |
| 07:01.01 | kindyroot | bpun: i give you the adress |
| 07:01.05 | moz_ | bpun, It used to say it, until i installed madwifi-source madwifi-tools |
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| 07:02.01 | sg | gah |
| 07:02.23 | sg | the default sendmail configuration is to send emails when they are send via sendmail -t right? |
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| 07:05.05 | moz_ | bpun, http://pastebin.com/m7ac0361e |
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| 07:16.49 | moz_ | kjh |
| 07:17.01 | moz_ | bpun, are you still there? |
| 07:17.34 | bpun | moz_ i believe its ath0 ur wifi card.. |
| 07:17.50 | moz_ | bpun, you don't need to believe |
| 07:17.57 | moz_ | I pasted the lspci -v |
| 07:17.59 | moz_ | here: |
| 07:18.02 | moz_ | bpun, http://pastebin.com/m7ac0361e |
| 07:18.20 | moz_ | I just give a minute of attention, maybe you can help me |
| 07:18.39 | moz_ | I meant: if you just give me ... |
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| 07:21.20 | patintin_ | is there an easy way to check the reboot history of a linux box? |
| 07:21.34 | bpun | patintin_, history , last <2 cmds |
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| 07:22.04 | maxagaz | how to add a route in a bash ? |
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| 07:23.06 | Mousey | patintin_: also /var/log/syslog |
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| 07:25.05 | patintin_ | any others? |
| 07:25.40 | patintin_ | bpun: the last command checks the wtmp and it's already rotated |
| 07:26.13 | patintin_ | Mousey: /var/log/syslog was rotated several times already |
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| 07:27.03 | Mousey | so? /var/log/syslog.[0-9].gz |
| 07:27.29 | Mousey | zless or zgrep |
| 07:27.37 | patintin_ | Mousey: that's not an "easy" way because i have to use *grep |
| 07:27.43 | Mousey | uh |
| 07:27.45 | patintin_ | Mousey: yes.. :) |
| 07:27.57 | moz_ | can anybody help me to set up a wireless connection? |
| 07:28.13 | Mousey | is clearly inferior and stops trying |
| 07:28.49 | amphi | moz_: wep? wpa? no crypto? |
| 07:29.14 | moz_ | amphi, wpa |
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| 07:29.26 | amphi | you need to use wpa_supplicant |
| 07:29.41 | moz_ | amphi, i know |
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| 07:29.58 | moz_ | amphi, but i also need somebody to guide me step by step |
| 07:30.32 | moz_ | amphi, could you please tell me what to do? |
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| 07:30.40 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.03 | Boohbah | moz_: have you tried searching the world wide web? i hear it has documents and stuff |
| 07:31.08 | Boohbah | moz_: http://wiki.debian.org/WPA |
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| 07:31.40 | moz_ | Boohbah, yes , i've tried but i didn't understand the procedure |
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| 07:33.40 | patintin_ | Mousey: and even though, i also checked all the rotated /var/log/messages* and /var/log/syslog* but i can't see the logs from last year |
| 07:34.34 | patintin_ | Mousey: but, thank you for trying to help |
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| 07:35.50 | moz_ | what I don't understand is: i installed debian through the online installation and I used the wireless connection. Now I'm on a different access point and I can't manage to make it work again. Is there a way to lounch again the installation software (the one which asks you to partition, to format, the set the keyboard on so on). because, if htere is, maybe i have a chance) |
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| 07:36.40 | faheem_ | I realise this topic is an old and sort point, but anyone got suggestions about filling out pdf forms in linux? |
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| 07:40.30 | Boohbah | moz_: if it was working your probably just need to re-run iwconfig |
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| 07:42.37 | gps23 | hi |
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| 07:44.19 | gps23 | i have installed lenny recently and my sound isn't working |
| 07:44.25 | gps23 | someone please help |
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| 07:44.46 | xoz__ | points gps23 to alsaconf |
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| 07:45.26 | christianp | hi all |
| 07:45.43 | gps23 | xoz__, there is no alsaconf package on my side |
| 07:45.55 | xoz__ | gps23: install it |
| 07:46.06 | christianp | i need to add a line to the end of a file through ssh: scp replace the file, how to add the line? |
| 07:46.08 | moz_ | I guess i don't have apt-setup on my system |
| 07:46.12 | gps23 | xoz__, alsaconf isn't in the repos |
| 07:46.24 | moz_ | i tried: apt-get install apt-setup but it didn't work |
| 07:46.30 | moz_ | how can install it? |
| 07:46.31 | xoz__ | l |
| 07:47.17 | xoz__ | gps23: /msg dpkg alsa-checklis |
| 07:47.21 | xoz__ | gps23: /msg dpkg alsa-checklist |
| 07:48.24 | gps23 | xoz__, oh yes, there is alsaconf program, trying it, thanks :) |
| 07:49.11 | gps23 | xoz__, alsa-checklist is cool |
| 07:49.57 | moz_ | how can i install apt-setup. what's is the name I shoud search for? |
| 07:50.24 | xoz__ | apt-setup |
| 07:50.39 | moz_ | you mean: apt-get install apt-setup? |
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| 07:50.44 | xoz__ | yp |
| 07:50.51 | moz_ | xoz, you mean: apt-get install apt-setup? |
| 07:50.56 | litwol|mac | hmm |
| 07:50.56 | xoz__ | yep moz_ |
| 07:51.07 | \amethyst | there isn't a regular deb of apt-setup |
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| 07:51.22 | moz_ | xoz, i did it but the repository doesn't find it |
| 07:51.28 | xoz__ | moz_: apt-spy |
| 07:51.32 | litwol|mac | where does one download debian source ? |
| 07:51.42 | litwol|mac | if i want to compile it myself |
| 07:51.52 | moz_ | xoz, you mean: apt-get install apt-spy? |
| 07:51.56 | xoz__ | yep moz_ |
| 07:52.01 | \amethyst | !source |
| 07:52.01 | dpkg | To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space. As root: 'aptitude install build-essential fakeroot devscripts' and 'apt-get build-dep {packagename}'. As any user: 'apt-get source {packagename}', cd into the directory it creates, edit 'debian/rules' to suit, run 'debuild -us -uc'. You need deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list for apt-get source to work. Ask me about <deb-src>. |
| 07:52.06 | \amethyst | !deb-src |
| 07:52.06 | xoz__ | !deb-src |
| 07:52.07 | dpkg | somebody said deb-src was 'deb-src http://http.<CC>.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' (example) where '<CC>' is the Country Code, replace with your own for a local mirror - ask me about <source> or <apt-build> for some info about how to build stuff, make sure "build-essential" is installed, ask me about <module-assistant>. Might need to have linux-headers-`uname -r` (if using a debian kernel) and "libc6-dev" installed. |
| 07:52.11 | xoz__ | heh |
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| 07:52.53 | litwol|mac | \amethyst: no, not packages source. the actual debian source. the kernel. |
| 07:52.57 | moz_ | xoz, now i have apt-spy. how should use it? |
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| 07:53.22 | \amethyst | litwol|mac: 1. debian is not a kernel 2. there is a debian package for the kernel: linux-2.6 |
| 07:53.42 | litwol|mac | sry |
| 07:53.51 | xoz__ | moz_: /msg dpkg apt-spy |
| 07:54.04 | litwol|mac | \amethyst: sorry i confused my terms |
| 07:54.13 | litwol|mac | i am looking for the debian distro, but not precompiled |
| 07:54.18 | litwol|mac | i want the 5.0 source |
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| 07:54.29 | \amethyst | Debian is made up of packages |
| 07:54.46 | \amethyst | the sources of the packages *are* the Debian sources |
| 07:54.53 | litwol|mac | so its linux-2.6 kernel + extras ? |
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| 07:55.02 | moz_ | xoz, i need an option after dpkg |
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| 07:55.12 | litwol|mac | what makes up the *debian* |
| 07:55.35 | \amethyst | litwol|mac: all the packages in main make up debian |
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| 07:55.56 | litwol|mac | ok ty |
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| 07:57.15 | xoz__ | moz_: ? |
| 07:57.42 | gps23 | xoz__, running alsaconf , adding user to audio group did the job |
| 07:57.47 | gps23 | xoz__, thanks |
| 07:57.51 | xoz__ | gps23: cool |
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| 07:59.38 | \amethyst | litwol|mac: there are also source DVD and CD ISOs available... 28 CDs or 4 DVDs |
| 07:59.44 | \amethyst | litwol|mac: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/source/ |
| 08:00.06 | litwol|mac | ty |
| 08:00.19 | moz_ | xoz, you told me to install apt-spy. I did it. Now i ask: what's the use of it? And still remains the question: how can i install apt-setup. the command apt-get install apt-setup fails |
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| 08:00.47 | xoz__ | moz_: apt-spy -d lenny -a <Asia? Europe?> |
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| 08:00.57 | xoz__ | moz_: and let apt-spy look for the best mirror. |
| 08:01.06 | xoz__ | !apt-spy |
| 08:01.06 | dpkg | a secret! Shh! 'Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is the fastest of them all?' Note that it will overwrite your sources.list when finished, so (1) cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.mybak (2) apt-get install apt-spy (3) apt-spy update; apt-spy -d [stable,testing,unstable] -a [Africa,Asia,Europe,North-America,Oceania,South-America] (4) fix your sources.list by adding back in any other mirrors you had been using. |
| 08:01.21 | \amethyst | litwol|mac: torrents are in the bt-cd and bt-dvd directories; they're usually much faster than downloading from cdimage.debian.org |
| 08:01.28 | xoz__ | moz_: you did not read this? i asked you to /msg dpkg |
| 08:02.21 | moz_ | xoz, i typed: dkpg apt-spy, but an option is needed after dkpg |
| 08:03.40 | xoz__ | moz_: no... |
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| 08:04.14 | xoz__ | moz_: apt-get install apt-spy; apt-spy update; |
| 08:04.24 | xoz__ | moz_: what version are you using? |
| 08:04.38 | xoz__ | moz_: lenny? which part of the world are you? |
| 08:04.42 | moz_ | xoz, lenny i guess |
| 08:04.46 | moz_ | germany |
| 08:05.02 | xoz__ | moz_: apt-spy -d lenny -a Europe |
| 08:05.12 | moz_ | now i'm doing it, it takes time |
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| 08:05.30 | xoz__ | moz_: yep, it will benchmark and choose the best link. |
| 08:05.46 | moz_ | xoz, after that will I be able to apt-get install apt-setup? |
| 08:05.59 | xoz__ | moz_: you should backup your sources.list |
| 08:06.04 | xoz__ | moz_: apt-setup is gone in the repos |
| 08:06.19 | moz_ | xoz, and i could i resume it? |
| 08:06.42 | xoz__ | moz_: apt-spy i think is the one that replaced it. |
| 08:07.16 | moz_ | xoz, but i want apt-setup. it's the only way i know to make my wlan work |
| 08:07.24 | xoz__ | is wondering why feta is gone in lenny |
| 08:07.36 | xoz__ | moz_: huh? |
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| 08:08.05 | xoz__ | !apt-setup |
| 08:08.06 | dpkg | apt-setup was a means of adding a Debian mirror to your APT sources. To install from a cd-rom ask me about <apt-cdrom>. apt-setup is no longer available as a .deb (usable on an installed system) in etch and later since base-config was removed (http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html). <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> can be used instead. |
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| 08:09.22 | moz_ | xoz, my main problem is: how to make my wlan work. I asked for hours for help in channel and nobody answered, except writing hints I could not understand, like: wpa_supplicant and so on |
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| 08:10.24 | moz_ | xoz, now i recalled that when i installed the system, setup asked me the name and the key of my wlan and he maked it work . so i want to redo those steps again |
| 08:10.41 | xoz__ | moz_: ok |
| 08:10.49 | xoz__ | iwconfig shows your wlan? |
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| 08:11.40 | moz_ | xoz_, do you want me to pastebin my iwconfig output? |
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| 08:11.54 | USER_ | hi |
| 08:11.58 | xoz__ | moz_: yep |
| 08:12.35 | moz_ | xoz, here you are |
| 08:12.38 | moz_ | http://pastebin.com/d45a90d68 |
| 08:12.58 | USER_ | is it possible for a person who is not a debian expert to upgrade v5 to KDE 4.2 and also upgrade openoffice? |
| 08:13.43 | xoz | moz_: ok, so you have the correct ESSID? |
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| 08:14.34 | moz_ | xoz, the question is: why should i give him the correce ESSID? i expect he finds the ESSID on his own and then ask me for the key |
| 08:15.53 | freebse | USER_: ya but you can not upgrade from anything 4.2 to 5.0 |
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| 08:16.03 | xoz | moz_: you have to choose the correct ESSID first among the differents APs |
| 08:16.13 | aixenv | so what do you guys think the best filesystem is for a server doing lots of rsyncs nightly and needs optimum disk i/o & speed? |
| 08:16.14 | USER_ | thank you |
| 08:16.30 | moz_ | xoz, i started wifi-radar and it finds a lot of wlans, among which there is also mine |
| 08:16.44 | freebse | USER_: but I know what you wanted to say, and ya it is |
| 08:16.45 | USER_ | I downloaded Debian final version 5 its not an upgrade |
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| 08:17.21 | freebse | USER_: that is because you normally update Debian via apt-get upgrade |
| 08:17.29 | moz_ | xoz, yes, the ESSID is correct, but now i'm connected wired. Can it be a conflict between there wired and the wireless? |
| 08:17.30 | USER_ | yes |
| 08:17.39 | USER_ | I'm familiar with that |
| 08:18.03 | USER_ | so it will come through as an update in due course? |
| 08:18.05 | xoz | moz_: dont connect your wire connection |
| 08:18.06 | freebse | USER_: than it is possible |
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| 08:18.26 | moz_ | xoz, if i didn't connect, I couldn't chat |
| 08:18.34 | xoz | moz_: it seems you are connected but you need to authenticate with wpa_supplicant |
| 08:18.39 | xoz | moz_: ok |
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| 08:19.15 | xoz | moz_: create a bash file |
| 08:19.17 | moz_ | xoz, ok, can you help me to authenitcate |
| 08:19.18 | xoz | moz_: http://pastebin.com/m5e635b85 |
| 08:19.37 | freebse | zo |
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| 08:19.40 | xoz | moz_: change wlan0 to your interface.... provide the password and authentication protocol |
| 08:20.05 | xoz | moz_: check your router config what authentication you use.. is it wep? wpa? |
| 08:20.26 | mozzz | xoz, ok, but how? could you be more detailed? |
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| 08:21.37 | moz_ | xoz, ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 08:21.37 | moz_ | wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
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| 08:22.36 | moz_ | xoz, my key is the kind of wpa+wpa2 |
| 08:22.37 | xoz | moz_: change wlan0 to your interface |
| 08:22.43 | moz_ | wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 08:22.54 | xoz | moz_: it is not wlan0 |
| 08:22.55 | faheem_ | q |
| 08:23.03 | xoz | moz_: check output of iwconfig |
| 08:23.23 | moz_ | xoz, it's ath0 |
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| 08:23.49 | antipivo | hi all, please help understand work tar+bz over | |
| 08:23.49 | antipivo | bzip2 -cd vpk_lab2.tar.bz2 | tar -xvf -s |
| 08:23.53 | USER_ | thanks |
| 08:23.55 | antipivo | this true? |
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| 08:24.42 | xoz | moz_: ath0 for your wireless? |
| 08:24.58 | xoz | moz_: so substitute wlan0 to ath0 |
| 08:25.06 | xoz | moz_: all occurences |
| 08:25.21 | moz_ | xoz, ok |
| 08:25.21 | USER_ | thanks for your help |
| 08:25.41 | xoz | then create a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 08:25.59 | xoz | moz_: containing |
| 08:26.03 | xoz | moz_: http://pastebin.com/m1f8c042a |
| 08:26.14 | moz_ | xoz, iwconfig ath0 essid "FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7170" |
| 08:26.14 | moz_ | bash: !Box: event not found |
| 08:26.33 | moz_ | Xor1ng, it seems that he doesn't like the "!" |
| 08:26.40 | xoz | moz_: change that naming |
| 08:26.45 | moz_ | xoz, i can't |
| 08:26.56 | xoz | moz_: try using \! |
| 08:27.00 | moz_ | ok |
| 08:27.54 | xoz | moz_: create /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf... then issue the command: |
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| 08:28.27 | xoz | moz_: wpa_supplicant -iath00 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 08:28.48 | moz_ | xoz, iwpriv ath0 set AuthMode=WPAPSK |
| 08:28.49 | moz_ | Invalid command : set |
| 08:28.49 | Deepa | This is why you shouldn't use bash. that would've been perfectly valid else |
| 08:28.50 | xoz | moz_: error, wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 08:29.09 | moz_ | xoz, yes but set seems invalid |
| 08:29.20 | xoz | moz_: forget it... use the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 08:29.29 | moz_ | ok |
| 08:29.30 | xoz | moz_: copy the pastebin i told you |
| 08:29.33 | moz_ | ok |
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| 08:32.31 | moz_ | xoz, the daemon wifiradar should be off? |
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| 08:32.59 | xoz | moz_: yeah... let us do it manually |
| 08:33.39 | moz_ | ok |
| 08:34.18 | moz_ | xoz, http://pastebin.com/d6f972a6a |
| 08:34.37 | xoz | moz_: that works now. |
| 08:34.54 | xoz | moz_: try dhclient ath0 |
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| 08:34.59 | moz_ | ok |
| 08:35.03 | xoz | moz_: or whatever dhclient you have |
| 08:35.16 | negge | help me out here guys! I just updated a system and now DNS name resolution is borked! |
| 08:35.26 | xoz | moz_: use also wavemon in another terminal to see the signal strength |
| 08:35.32 | negge | I'm getting this when n doing an nslookup: ** server can't find ws09: SERVFAIL |
| 08:36.11 | xoz | moz_: next time, you can use wpa_supplicant ... & to send it to background |
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| 08:37.03 | moz_ | xoz, http://pastebin.com/d1ea0b8d |
| 08:37.26 | moz_ | xoz, i don't think it's working |
| 08:37.33 | xoz | moz_: did you terminate wpa_suppplicant? |
| 08:38.03 | xoz | moz_: you should run two terminals.... one is wpa_supplicant spitting those messages and dhclient in the other. |
| 08:38.15 | moz_ | yes, let me see ... |
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| 08:38.51 | xoz | moz_: and it seems wifi0 is your wifi... ath0 maybe is your wired? |
| 08:39.11 | moz_ | xoz, i don't know |
| 08:39.13 | xoz | moz_: if wifi0 is your wifi, you have to make the changes |
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| 08:39.22 | moz_ | xoz, wpa_supplicant stopped on his own |
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| 08:39.27 | xoz | moz_: also, you have a dhclient running already for your wired |
| 08:39.34 | moz_ | after giving the output I pasted |
| 08:39.40 | xoz | moz_: pastebin again your iwconfig |
| 08:40.00 | moz_ | xoz, yes, dhclient runs already for my wired |
| 08:40.02 | rdz | hi all. i am trying to install debian lenny on a raid system. i have problems finding the correct device to install the bootloader to. any hints? |
| 08:40.41 | xoz | moz_: pastebin again your iwconfig |
| 08:40.44 | moz_ | http://pastebin.com/d7e9f264a |
| 08:40.58 | moz_ | xoz, http://pastebin.com/d7e9f264a |
| 08:41.25 | xoz | moz_: ok... so that is correct |
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| 08:41.40 | xoz | try again wpa_supplicant.... and see if it stops |
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| 08:42.44 | xoz | moz_: you can also try kwlan for GUI wpa supplicant |
| 08:43.05 | moz_ | now i'm runnig it in terminal |
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| 08:43.33 | xoz | moz_: does it stop? |
| 08:43.50 | moz_ | not yet, but i think it is going to stop |
| 08:43.54 | moz_ | give me a second |
| 08:44.06 | xoz | moz_: now, in another terminal, issue dhclient command |
| 08:44.35 | xoz | moz_: make sure you have the correct password |
| 08:44.50 | moz_ | yes i have to correct one |
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| 08:45.28 | moz_ | xoz, the wpa_supplicant didn't stop |
| 08:45.29 | pbn | Hi there, how do you "enable" resolvconf, so that it writes in /etc/resolv.conf the DNS server it gets from DHCP ? |
| 08:45.55 | moz_ | xoz, but i guess dhclient failed |
| 08:46.00 | xoz | moz_: now issue dhclient in another terminal |
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| 08:46.13 | xoz | moz_: you have to disable the other dhclient maybe... |
| 08:46.25 | moz_ | ok, so i disable it |
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| 08:46.40 | ilaiho | hi! |
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| 08:46.57 | ilaiho | why there is no madwifi binaries in debian? |
| 08:47.01 | th0ger | Hi, my dpkg is stuck. When generating RSA key for uswsusp it just waits (need ctrl-c). I cannot remove/purge uswsusp since its not installed O_o Also, i can't reconfigure it not to use encryption (to avoid the hang). I actually don't need the package. How do i manually kick it??? |
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| 08:47.54 | cahoot | th0ger: see if apt-get install -f helps |
| 08:47.57 | ilaiho | it is frustrating to manually recompile packages when there is a kernel upgrade |
| 08:48.19 | mozzz | xoz_, i unplugged the ehternet cable |
| 08:48.25 | xoz | mozzz: ok |
| 08:48.52 | mozzz | xoz now i write from another computer |
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| 08:48.57 | xoz | mozzz: during the time your wpasupplicant is running, check if wavemon has good signal |
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| 08:49.12 | xoz | mozzz: install wavemon |
| 08:49.33 | xoz | mozzz: if signal is ok, then you have successful authentication. |
| 08:49.47 | xoz | mozzz: all you need is to get the dhcp address |
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| 08:50.32 | xoz | th0ger: goto /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 08:50.50 | xoz | th0ger: remove the files for swsusp |
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| 08:51.22 | th0ger | cahoot, xoz: apt-get -f remove swsusp worked. Thx. |
| 08:52.06 | moz_ | xoz, i plugged again |
| 08:52.12 | xoz | moz_: ok |
| 08:52.17 | xoz | install wavemon |
| 08:52.24 | moz_ | already done |
| 08:52.39 | xoz | moz_: and monitor if the signal becomes ok once wpasupplicant runs |
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| 08:53.37 | moz | xoz, wavemod is installed |
| 08:53.51 | xoz | moz: type wavemon in the terminal |
| 08:53.58 | moz | done |
| 08:54.08 | xoz | moz: and issue wpa_supp.... in the other term |
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| 08:54.32 | xoz | moz: check the signal to noise ratio |
| 08:54.50 | moz | the first line of wavemod tells the name of my wlan |
| 08:54.59 | moz | xoz, is that a good sign? |
| 08:55.05 | xoz | moz: yep |
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| 08:55.23 | xoz | moz:wavemon will quit if your wireless does not work |
| 08:55.44 | xoz | moz: what about the bars? are they moving? |
| 08:56.04 | moz | which bars? |
| 08:56.22 | moz | under sign level and noise level? the red ones? |
| 08:56.29 | xoz | moz: in wavemon. you will have three... one for signal...yep |
| 08:56.30 | xoz | yep |
| 08:56.39 | moz | no, there're fixed |
| 08:56.48 | xoz | moz: is your wpasupplicant already running? |
| 08:56.57 | moz | let me see ... |
| 08:57.09 | xoz | moz: are the three signals above zero? |
| 08:57.23 | xoz | moz: the first one should be the longest |
| 08:57.28 | moz | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.28 | moz | root 7943 0.0 0.0 4232 1672 pts/6 S+ 09:42 0:00 wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 08:57.38 | xoz | moz: ok.. |
| 08:58.02 | xoz | moz: is the first bar the longest? about what %? |
| 08:58.12 | moz | ââInterfaceââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ |
| 08:58.12 | moz | âath0 (IEEE 802.11g), ESSID: "FRITZ\!Box Fon WLAN 7170", nick: "FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7170" â |
| 08:58.12 | moz | ââLevelsââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââââ⤠|
| 08:58.13 | moz | âlink quality: 0/70 â |
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| 08:58.50 | moz | xoz, I'm sorry |
| 08:59.04 | moz | xoz, i didnìt expect the past was so long |
| 08:59.15 | moz | xoz, did you read it? |
| 08:59.17 | xoz | moz: i doubt your essid is correct... or maybe the password. |
| 08:59.29 | xoz | moz: zero link quality |
| 08:59.31 | xoz | :( |
| 08:59.54 | xoz | moz: you should change your essid in the AP |
| 09:00.02 | moz | but the number inv increases very quickly |
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| 09:00.32 | xoz | moz: meaning the transmitter is working but cannot get an acknowledgement |
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| 09:00.50 | arisv | hello, any ideas how to set a wallpaper in jwm window manager? :) |
| 09:01.01 | moz | the eessid has a back slash exceeding but apart from that it is right |
| 09:01.19 | xoz | moz: yeah, the backslash should not appear there |
| 09:01.21 | arisv | i have imagemagick already installed, if it helps.. |
| 09:01.36 | cahoot | xoz: there's no chance to use the routers MAC instead of essid? |
| 09:01.36 | xoz | moz: the backslash is for the bash to not interpret it.... |
| 09:01.57 | xoz | cahoot: yeah, that would be a good idea. |
| 09:02.15 | xoz | moz: try using ' ' instead of " " |
| 09:02.27 | xoz | moz: and remve the backqoute |
| 09:02.31 | moz | xoz, oh, maybe because it is still using the information i gave him through the command line and not the one who are stored in wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 09:03.00 | moz | xoz, how can we force him to forget the old ones and to start over reading from that file? |
| 09:03.02 | xoz | moz: yeah. or let us try cahoot's suggestion... use MAC instead of ESSID |
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| 09:03.39 | moz | xoz, where? |
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| 09:04.22 | moz | xoz, where should i replace essid with mac? |
| 09:04.29 | xoz | moz: seems i cannot find a MAC example |
| 09:04.48 | xoz | moz: try single quote first and remove backslash |
| 09:05.13 | moz | xoz, backshlash is not in the line of wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:05.15 | xoz | moz: and kill your existing wpa |
| 09:05.21 | moz | ok |
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| 09:05.41 | xoz | moz: and use single quote |
| 09:06.14 | xoz | moz: always check if wavemon signal link improves |
| 09:06.37 | moz | xoz, should i restart wavemod too? |
| 09:06.42 | xoz | moz: no need |
| 09:06.49 | xoz | moz: as long as it runs |
| 09:08.20 | moz | xoz, wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:08.20 | moz | Line 6: failed to parse ssid ''Fritz!Box Fon WLAN 7170''. |
| 09:08.21 | moz | Line 12: failed to parse network block. |
| 09:08.21 | moz | Failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' |
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| 09:10.29 | xoz | moz: use only one single quote in the beginning and one at the end |
| 09:10.32 | moz | xoz, http://pastebin.com/m2dcc2f79 |
| 09:10.35 | xoz | moz: use only one single quote in the beginning and one at the end |
| 09:10.42 | moz | uhm .. |
| 09:11.00 | xoz | moz: like 'fbadfadjfladjflafl' |
| 09:11.19 | anki1 | guys i hav installed lenny via cd-1 .. now i want to install packages .........what source do i add to sources located in /etc/apt/sources |
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| 09:11.28 | moz | xoz, you mean both, at line ssid and at line psk? |
| 09:11.35 | nkuttler | !tell anki1 about sources.list |
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| 09:11.51 | xoz | moz: others are ok because you don't have special chars like ! |
| 09:12.09 | kamp2tux-Away | may i know the fastest mirror for debian lenny users in MALAYSIA ? thanks |
| 09:12.09 | moz | xoz, so it was ok as i did |
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| 09:12.27 | moz | xoz, here: http://pastebin.com/m2dcc2f79 |
| 09:12.56 | nkuttler | !tell kamp2tux-Away about apt-spy |
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| 09:13.12 | Asad2005 | i am having problem installing debian 5. in debug console i se in-target libgnutls untrusted package to continue enter yes but this is a debug console how can i enter the yes |
| 09:13.39 | xoz | moz: you are still using ''jdfsfds'' |
| 09:13.48 | xoz | moz: use 'jdfsfds' |
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| 09:14.15 | nkuttler | Asad2005: that shouldn't happen.. are you using the official installer? |
| 09:14.27 | moz | xoz, believe me, i'm using single quotes, pastebin was wrong |
| 09:14.49 | moz | xoz, but the problem is: why wavemon is still displaying a \ in the name |
| 09:14.51 | moz | ? |
| 09:14.59 | cahoot | after resume from s2ram I notice syslog being spammed by dhclient incessantly asking the router for an ip although there already is a working connection - where/how could I stop this behaviour? |
| 09:15.09 | AndrewMohawk | Hi, ive created a trivial repository with various custom applications within their own folders, eg http://{host}/app1, http://{host}/app2 and within each {app1,app2} i have the .deb and Packages.gz as explained via the docs on debian.org, however when i try install two applications after each other with aptitude i get the following message: "trying to overwrite `/Packages.gz', which is also in package <app2>", how can i fix this? |
| 09:15.26 | xoz | moz: ok. but failed to parse means that something is wrong with the ssid name |
| 09:15.35 | xoz | moz: try to restart everything |
| 09:15.50 | moz | xoz, the problem is in the iwconfig, who still displays this \ |
| 09:16.05 | moz | xoz, you mean to reboot the system? |
| 09:16.10 | xoz | moz: no |
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| 09:16.28 | moz | xoz, so what? |
| 09:16.31 | xoz | moz: just restart the process of wpasupplicant |
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| 09:17.01 | xoz | moz: or change the name of ssid first to saomthing simple before the real one |
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| 09:17.16 | xoz | moz: iwconfig ath0 essid simple |
| 09:17.26 | xoz | moz: then run wpasupplicant... |
| 09:17.28 | carl_ | hi guys, i am trying to get mmkeys (a multimedia key plugin) working in songbird with debian and gnome. Is there anyway that i can tell what keys are beeing triggered when i press my mmkeys? i have configured it in the hotkey section, i just want to be able to tell that the application is really getting it (so that dbus etc works as they should) |
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| 09:17.44 | xoz | carl_: xev |
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| 09:18.00 | carl_ | thnx |
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| 09:18.29 | Arafangion | Hey, I've compiled my own glib, how do I ignore the system glib when I compile (and use) a program that uses autoconf? |
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| 09:20.33 | moz | xoz, i did it (iwconfig ath0 essid simple, the run wpa_supplicant ..), and wpa_supplicant stopped |
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| 09:21.01 | xoz | moz: iwconfig shows what essid now? |
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| 09:21.32 | moz | xoz, shows simple |
| 09:21.53 | xoz | moz: something is wrong with /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:21.57 | moz | xoz, ath0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"simple" Nickname:"FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7170" |
| 09:22.13 | moz | xoz, is the "!" |
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| 09:22.25 | xoz | moz: dont use & when you run wpasupplicant |
| 09:22.35 | moz | xoz, i never use it |
| 09:22.52 | zophy | are you guys talking about hacking ? |
| 09:22.56 | zophy | wow |
| 09:22.56 | xoz | moz: ! i think is the problem |
| 09:23.27 | SQlvpapir | wow gnome-volume-manager has a s...load of dependencies |
| 09:23.28 | Arafangion | zophy: Nah, if you want hacking, go to a programming channel. Note that we do not support cracking on freenode. |
| 09:23.28 | moz | xoz, but now |
| 09:23.51 | moz | xoz, i gaveiwconfig ath0 essid 'Fritz!Box Fon WLAN 7170' (with single quote) and it was accepted |
| 09:24.02 | xoz | moz: ok |
| 09:24.17 | xoz | moz: edit your wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 09:25.53 | moz | xoz, but now wavemon is displaying the right name (without !), maybe i don't need to edit it |
| 09:25.59 | jelly | how do I tell an interfaces(5) dhcp config not to set up DNS? |
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| 09:27.27 | xoz | moz: you have to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf because you will need it to run wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c .... |
| 09:28.03 | xoz | moz: what you did was in the term.. since it was ok, you have to place it in the config |
| 09:28.17 | jelly | at present I'm deleting it with a "post-up resolvconf -d eth2" line, but that only works until the first lease renegotiation |
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| 09:29.08 | moz | xoz, i noticed that FRITZ should be all capital letters |
| 09:29.30 | cahoot | jelly: prepend domain-name-servers in dhclient.conf isn't what you want? |
| 09:29.30 | moz | xoz, i edited wpa_supplicant and now the output is totally different |
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| 09:30.09 | xoz | moz: what? |
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| 09:30.51 | moz | xoz, should i paste some of it in pastebin? |
| 09:31.09 | jelly | cahoot: no, I don't want them touched at all |
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| 09:31.29 | xoz | moz: Oktane |
| 09:31.33 | xoz | moz: ok |
| 09:31.56 | moz | Xor1ng, http://pastebin.com/d5ea6b399 |
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| 09:33.15 | jelly | cahoot: that might be good enough, though. |
| 09:33.52 | moz | xoz, i think it works!!!!! |
| 09:33.56 | xoz | moz: try dhclient now |
| 09:34.02 | xoz | moz: yeah |
| 09:34.05 | xoz | !beer moz |
| 09:34.05 | dpkg | pours a quart of Gulden Drak for moz |
| 09:34.08 | xoz | finally |
| 09:34.13 | moz | the lines on wavemon are green |
| 09:34.20 | xoz | moz: yesp |
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| 09:34.23 | moz | and they move |
| 09:34.33 | xoz | moz: it is the essid that f*** you! |
| 09:34.42 | moz | xoz, |
| 09:34.44 | moz | yes |
| 09:34.46 | xoz | moz: whoever named that? |
| 09:34.56 | moz | what happens now if i unplug the ethernet cable? |
| 09:35.03 | jelly | cahoot: huh, it worked, overrode the dhcp servers entries completely. Thanks! |
| 09:35.05 | xoz | moz: try route -n |
| 09:35.27 | moz | 192.168.178.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:35.27 | moz | 0.0.0.0 192.168.178.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 09:35.38 | cahoot | jelly: I can't find anywhere to pass -r to dhclient |
| 09:35.51 | xoz | moz: there is no ath0 |
| 09:36.04 | moz | xoz, yes, i see |
| 09:36.04 | xoz | moz: only eth0 |
| 09:36.14 | xoz | moz: try dhclient ath0 now |
| 09:36.27 | moz | and signal level on wavamon is still <0 |
| 09:36.31 | moz | ok |
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| 09:37.44 | grendal_prime | hey guys...I have a source package i would like to make into a .deb is that terribly difficult? |
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| 09:38.01 | jelly | cahoot: I'll put supersede instead of prepend there, that's supposed to be what I want |
| 09:38.17 | xoz | moz: i think you have problems with your key and authentication protocol. make sure /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf config is correct for the authentication part |
| 09:38.22 | moz | xoz, http://pastebin.com/d5f7a9133 |
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| 09:38.49 | moz | xoz, but i don't understand why dhclient looks in wifi0 instead of in ath0 |
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| 09:38.55 | grendal_prime | I mean i have created deb packaes for projects that i have made...but...this is another beast altogether i think |
| 09:39.18 | moz | xoz, I'm afraid there's also something unclear in hardware configuration |
| 09:39.42 | moz | xoz, my key is wpa+wpa2 |
| 09:39.57 | DaveWM | i wanna try out debian on my laptop, i'm not sure if i should go with 64bit or x86 version |
| 09:40.27 | DaveWM | do i solely base that on my cpu or what else is there to concider? |
| 09:40.33 | xoz | moz: yep. try wifi0 also instead of ath0 |
| 09:40.40 | moz | xoz, how? |
| 09:40.58 | xoz | moz: change all ath0 to wifi0 in all your commands and configs before |
| 09:41.10 | xoz | moz: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:41.15 | toshiba510cdt | i've been told disabling unnecessary services is a sure way to have faster booting and saving memory. i have a very old Pentium 133 MHz laptop running lenny. shall i disable dbus and hal??? |
| 09:41.23 | xoz | moz: and dhclient wifi0 |
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| 09:42.39 | Arafangion | So... How do I tell autoconf to ignore my system glib because I've got my own? |
| 09:43.00 | DaveWM | or actually, i guess what i'm really interested in, is it harder to find packages for 64bit version of debian? or are they the same packages as the x86 version? |
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| 09:43.38 | jelly | Arafangion: usually there's a --with-somelibrary=/install/prefix |
| 09:43.50 | Arafangion | DaveWM: Harder to find commercial software, to a point, but Debian and other linux'es have been fine with 64-bit systems for many years. |
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| 09:44.03 | Arafangion | DaveWM: The issue was running 64 and 32-bit modes /simultaniously/. |
| 09:44.20 | jelly | Arafangion: wait, you said "autoconf" not a ready-made configure script. Then I don't know. |
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| 09:44.44 | Arafangion | jelly: Well, I've got a ready-made ./configure script, however, it is generated by using autoconf. |
| 09:45.00 | DaveWM | OS: Unsupported Windows 6.1 (Build #7000) CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60, 2.00 GHz, 512 KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M (1280x800x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: Speakers (Conexant High Definit Memory: Used: 649/2943MB Uptime: 15m 1s HD Space: Free: 51.68 GB/88.60 GB Connection: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 0.00MB Sent: 0.00MB) |
| 09:45.06 | amphi_ | Arafangion: ./configure --help may be of use |
| 09:45.15 | DaveWM | that's my specs, should i go with 64 bit or not? |
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| 09:45.28 | moz | reboot |
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| 09:45.50 | moz | xoz, i try to reboot and look if the wireless hardware is seen differently |
| 09:45.54 | jelly | DaveWM: are you planning to run any commercial software only available for 32bit? |
| 09:45.56 | DaveWM | i know as far as windows is concerned, i don't get much benefit of using 64 bit, so i'm using 32bit, but i dunno about linux |
| 09:45.57 | Arafangion | amphi_: I'll keep investigating. I think I've got to set a pile of environment settings first. |
| 09:46.05 | DaveWM | not that i know of |
| 09:46.22 | jelly | DaveWM: if you're not sure, use 32bit |
| 09:46.39 | Arafangion | DaveWM: 64-bit systems are not neccessarily faster. |
| 09:46.55 | DaveWM | ok, that's basically what i wanted to know |
| 09:47.04 | Arafangion | DaveWM: For most people, the only real difference is that they can address shitloads of memory. |
| 09:47.09 | amphi | Arafangion: setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH should be enough to make it look under /usr/local first IMHO |
| 09:47.24 | DaveWM | i only have 3gb so i guess it wouldnt make much diff |
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| 09:47.47 | Arafangion | amphi: Actually, it manages to find the correct glib, but then barfs because it assumes that I want to use hte system one, which is older. |
| 09:47.50 | DaveWM | i plan on running vm's on virtualbox, i dunno how that's affected by a 64bit host as far as performance goes |
| 09:48.04 | Arafangion | DaveWM: If you're into virtualisation, you may want 64-bit. |
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| 09:48.41 | Arafangion | DaveWM: It's not just physical memory... It's the ability to mmap files into virtual memory, use more swap, and in general just have heaps of address space. |
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| 09:48.57 | amphi | Arafangion: that seems odd - generally the newest available is used as far as I know |
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| 09:49.13 | moz | xoz, i rebooted and now it seems I don't have a wireless anymore |
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| 09:49.23 | Arafangion | amphi: If you think it's odd, that's great, gives me something to go on. :) |
| 09:49.30 | DaveWM | basically, i've been wanting to make a switch to linux for a while, but i always end up missing my windows stuff, but i've been running different linux distributions in virtualbox on windows and adapting, and now i'd like to try it the other way around, cause there's less limitations of what i can do using linux as the host OS |
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| 09:50.09 | amphi | Arafangion: for example, I have debian's libsoup installed, and also svn libsoup; webkit ./configure etc. find the svn version in /usr/local without problem |
| 09:50.17 | amphi | or special args |
| 09:50.40 | Arafangion | amphi: I don't actually install into /usr/local, btw - I put all my apps into the app-specific /opt, which _might_ be complicating issues. |
| 09:50.50 | moz | xoz, http://pastebin.com/d35274e3 |
| 09:50.54 | moz | this is all |
| 09:51.16 | amphi | Arafangion: add /opt/wherever/pkg-config/stuff/is to PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 09:51.27 | moz | xoz, are you still there? |
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| 09:51.32 | kaduk | Hi |
| 09:51.37 | kaduk | how to fix broken desktop on sid? |
| 09:51.41 | kaduk | gconfd is not startign |
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| 09:52.03 | Arafangion | amphi: I'd set PKG_CONFIG_PATH, and additionally CFLAGS and LDDFLAGS - come to think of it, I think the pkg-config aspect is probably fine. |
| 09:52.06 | Arafangion | (Just a hunch) |
| 09:52.27 | DaveWM | windows 7 is pretty sweet performance wise, but its still got some issues that i can't seem to work around, since vista ms doesnt allow raw disk access, it doesnt work with virtualbox or vmware anyway, also, usb support for both vm suites is a bit buggy acting, i'm gonna assume that its a windows issue and not a issue with the vm software, so maybe it'll work better on top of linux |
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| 09:52.31 | lord_rob | Hi ! I've mounted a shared dir on a windows PC via samba, now I've switched off the windows pc. Is it possible to umount the shared directory ? |
| 09:53.28 | lord_rob | (umount -f doesn't work) |
| 09:53.58 | DaveWM | also, anybody know any secrets to making firefox start up faster? |
| 09:54.01 | moz | xoz, are you still there? |
| 09:54.09 | xoz | moz: ok |
| 09:54.25 | Arafangion | DaveWM: I like it how they <censored>'ed up UAC. |
| 09:54.28 | lord_rob | DaveWM: keep it started |
| 09:54.32 | xoz | moz: you have to load the module for your wireless |
| 09:54.36 | DaveWM | most distributions, with the exception of a tiny live distribution (slitaz) that i've tried, firefox is always really slow to start |
| 09:54.50 | DaveWM | i disable UAC usually |
| 09:54.53 | DaveWM | heh |
| 09:55.03 | moz | xoz, the module shuold be athk5 |
| 09:55.12 | Arafangion | DaveWM: Apparently UAC was too much of a pain (Which it was), so apparently in Windows 7, there is now a Whitelist - and applications can bypass it entirely. (What the ****?) |
| 09:55.12 | xoz | moz: is it loaded? |
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| 09:55.17 | Deepa | DaveWM: run Fx2 instead of Fx3 |
| 09:55.20 | Deepa | or Fx1 even |
| 09:55.23 | Deepa | Heckuva lot faster |
| 09:55.31 | moz | xoz, i don't know |
| 09:55.39 | moz | xoz, how can i check it? |
| 09:56.04 | xoz | moz: lsmod | grep ath |
| 09:56.42 | moz | xoz, nothing |
| 09:57.05 | moz | xoz, i hope i don't have to recompile the kernel |
| 09:57.07 | xoz | moz: modprobe athk5 |
| 09:57.16 | DaveWM | here's one thing i like to do, that some people probably dont think is wise Arafangion , win7 cmd: Net user administrator /active:yes |
| 09:57.19 | xoz | moz: and lsmod | grep ath |
| 09:57.46 | DaveWM | i use that as my primary account |
| 09:57.48 | moz | xoz, FATAL: Module athk5 not found |
| 09:57.59 | DaveWM | although not much different from having UAC disabled |
| 09:58.46 | Arafangion | DaveWM: It's worse. |
| 09:58.52 | xoz | moz: is that a new kernel? |
| 09:59.03 | Arafangion | DaveWM: When you have UAC disabled, you aren't under the mistaken belief that it's /not/, right? |
| 09:59.06 | moz | xoz, 2.6.26 i think |
| 09:59.07 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
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| 09:59.29 | DaveWM | right |
| 09:59.31 | DaveWM | heh |
| 09:59.39 | xoz | moz: modprobe ath_pci |
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| 09:59.58 | moz | xoz, FATAL: Module ath_pci not found. |
| 10:00.06 | DaveWM | well, i'm gonna install debian on here, thnx guys |
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| 10:00.55 | xoz | moz: are you sure you dnt have ath5k? |
| 10:01.06 | xoz | moz: modprobe ath5k again |
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| 10:01.24 | moz | FATAL: Module ath_pci not found. |
| 10:01.35 | moz | debian:/home/moz# modprobe ath5k |
| 10:01.35 | moz | debian:/home/moz# |
| 10:01.40 | p0g0 | moz: also lspvi -vv " grep Atheros |
| 10:01.46 | p0g0 | oops |
| 10:01.56 | p0g0 | lspci -vv | grep Atheros |
| 10:02.40 | p0g0 | moz: that assures you that the card has been ID's by the PCI subsystem & tells you what make of card. |
| 10:02.44 | moz | 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) |
| 10:03.19 | xoz | moz: iwconfig ? still nothing? |
| 10:03.20 | p0g0 | moz: OK the card is there and shoul work with either ath5k or madwifi |
| 10:03.44 | moz | xoz, iwconfig now finds it and it is on wlan0 |
| 10:03.52 | moz | xoz, not anymore on aht0 as before |
| 10:03.53 | p0g0 | moz: ath5k then |
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| 10:04.19 | xoz | moz: now change those ath0 to wlan0 |
| 10:04.23 | moz | yes, ath5k so |
| 10:04.31 | moz | xoz, where? |
| 10:04.44 | moz | xoz, which ones? |
| 10:05.17 | xoz | moz: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 10:05.18 | aisx | Hello, when I trying to install ruby , on 5.0 debian I get this error message: "The following packages have unmet dependencies. | ruby: Depends: ruby1.8 but it is not installable | E: Broken packages". Could someone help please with this, thanks |
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| 10:05.36 | xoz | moz: just retrace what we did before... |
| 10:05.44 | Rockj | Hum, do you have to use a special stock kernel to use acl in debian? |
| 10:06.00 | moz | xoz, there is no ath0 nor wlan0 in wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 10:06.17 | xoz | moz: ok |
| 10:06.23 | p0g0 | moz: in the call to it there should be, like -i wlan0 |
| 10:06.25 | xoz | in the commandline then |
| 10:06.31 | moz | xoz, shoul i past the file? |
| 10:06.41 | xoz | moz: try now. |
| 10:06.49 | moz | where is the call to it? |
| 10:07.02 | xoz | moz: run wavemon, wpa_supplicant -i.... |
| 10:07.08 | xoz | moz: and dhclient |
| 10:07.11 | moz | oh, yes in the call |
| 10:07.20 | moz | that's right |
| 10:07.23 | moz | i change it |
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| 10:09.23 | kamp2tux-Away | what is the command to run the debian installer again ? |
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| 10:09.57 | moz | xoz, dhclient failed: No DHCPOFFERS received. |
| 10:09.57 | moz | No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. |
| 10:10.33 | moz | xoz, wait the ssid has no name |
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| 10:11.10 | aisx | Hello, when I trying to install ruby , on 5.0 debian I get this error message: "The following packages have unmet dependencies. | ruby: Depends: ruby1.8 but it is not installable | E: Broken packages". Could someone help please with this, thanks |
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| 10:12.14 | Arafangion | aisx: Sounds like you haven't properly upgraded to Lenny, or you have mixed packages. |
| 10:12.34 | aisx | Arafangion: I didn't upgrade it and yes, I mixed some packages |
| 10:13.07 | Arafangion | aisx: Then you must figure out the dependency hell that has resulted. :( |
| 10:13.16 | moz | xoz, no. it doesn't work |
| 10:13.23 | Arafangion | aisx: As a rule, you /never/ mix packages. |
| 10:13.40 | xoz | moz: just figure it out now and google. many people have atheros wifi also... got to go.. |
| 10:13.48 | aisx | thats one of the main reasons why I hate debians so much |
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| 10:13.53 | Arafangion | aisx: But it is possible to do so with the cost of increased administration. |
| 10:14.00 | moz | xoz, ok, thank so much, anyway |
| 10:14.03 | xoz | zoomms |
| 10:14.41 | Arafangion | aisx: Right, and other distributions allow you to mix without any issues? |
| 10:15.15 | aisx | but its much more easier to get out of the trouble in such situations to be honest |
| 10:15.40 | Arafangion | aisx: Well, to be honest that becomes a matter of familiarity. |
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| 10:16.42 | aisx | you are right |
| 10:16.53 | aisx | anyway thanks for your time ;} |
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| 10:17.22 | Arafangion | aisx: If I were you, I'd forget about ruby, and get that uninstalled cleanly, then run apt-get clean and check (and then FIX) any broken packages, then consider installing ruby. |
| 10:18.02 | Paul_UK | hi all, im wondering if i can have some help. i am trying to compile a .tar.gz into a .deb file and i've done this many times before. when i do debuild -us -uc when it compliles i keep on getting cant locate test/xml.pm although libtext-xml-simple-perl is installed - anyone know what the issue could be? |
| 10:18.38 | aisx | Arafangion: ok thanks once again mate |
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| 10:18.45 | Arafangion | aisx: Since you've got a mixed system, however, the ability for you to install ruby depends on how tightly coupled it is with various libraries (one of which can include tcl/tk), so you may need to forget about lenny's ruby 1.8, perhaps 1.9 works for you, perhaps you might even need to backport a ruby package from sydney. |
| 10:18.50 | Arafangion | aisx: In any case, all the best. |
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| 10:22.20 | moz | how can i install apt-setup (apt-get install apt-setup doesn't seem to work)? |
| 10:22.51 | petemc | !apt-setup |
| 10:22.51 | dpkg | apt-setup was a means of adding a Debian mirror to your APT sources. To install from a cd-rom ask me about <apt-cdrom>. apt-setup is no longer available as a .deb (usable on an installed system) in etch and later since base-config was removed (http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html). <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> can be used instead. |
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| 10:25.03 | moz | so maybe it is not apt-setup what i'm looking for. Wha't the name of the tool that starts at the biginning of the debian installation, which allows you to choose the language, the keyboard and all the rest? |
| 10:25.25 | Paul_UK | how can i update the beta to the full version? |
| 10:25.38 | Paul_UK | im running beta 2 in a vm and cant be bothered to download the iso again |
| 10:26.08 | petemc | moz: it was base-config, but it no longer exists |
| 10:27.03 | flourish | /wc/ |
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| 10:27.08 | petemc | Paul_UK: aptitude dist-upgrade, make sure your sources.list points to lenny rather then testing |
| 10:27.56 | Paul_UK | petemc thanks |
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| 10:39.55 | th0ger | Why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg ask me about screen resolution? |
| 10:40.43 | moz | is it normal that ifconfig gives me just eht0 and lo? |
| 10:40.52 | jelly | th0ger: that part was thrown out of the script |
| 10:41.01 | petemc | moz: what would you expect to see? |
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| 10:42.04 | moz | petemc, the wireless device |
| 10:42.23 | petemc | ifconfig -a will list interfaces if they exist but arent up |
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| 10:45.18 | moz | can anybody help with the wireless configuration? |
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| 10:46.45 | nkuttler | moz: looked into iwconfig? |
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| 10:46.56 | SerajewelKS | moz: what is the output of 'ip link' |
| 10:47.59 | moz | SerajewelKS, ip link gives 4 points |
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| 10:48.10 | moz | SerajewelKS, one of them is wlan0 |
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| 10:49.00 | SerajewelKS | moz: then 'ifconfig wlan0 up' and use iwconfig to select the essid |
| 10:49.12 | moz | 4: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000 |
| 10:49.12 | moz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.19 | SerajewelKS | moz: if you are using a desktop environment then you could also use something like network-manager to do the config for you |
| 10:49.23 | moz | SerajewelKS, already done |
| 10:49.36 | SerajewelKS | moz: then what is the problem? |
| 10:49.46 | moz | you mean gnome-network-manager? |
| 10:50.44 | SerajewelKS | sure |
| 10:50.44 | moz | apt-get install gnome-network-manager? |
| 10:51.05 | SerajewelKS | if that package exists |
| 10:51.20 | SerajewelKS | network-manager-gnome |
| 10:51.33 | moz | I don't know what is the problem, it just doesn't work. i can't obtain a ip via the dhclient |
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| 10:52.16 | toshiba510cdt | whenever i insert my Linksys WPC11 ver3 pcmcia wireless card (prism2 chipset) my laptop screen displays the message "wifi0: prism2_interrupt: ev=0xffff" ad infinitum and can not issue any commands or anything. it does not matter if i switch to tty2. that message effectively blocks me from issuing any commands |
| 10:52.28 | toshiba510cdt | and it even prevents me from login in! |
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| 10:52.58 | SerajewelKS | moz: what is your wireless chipset? |
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| 10:54.33 | moz | SerajewelKS, i don't know |
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| 10:55.17 | moz | SerajewelKS, i run manager-admin, a window opened, but now i don't know what to do |
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| 10:57.57 | SerajewelKS | moz: you should run nm-applet |
| 10:58.10 | SerajewelKS | moz: it will add an icon to your gnome tray. click it to select a wireless network. |
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| 11:00.56 | hark | toshiba510cdt: /etc/sysctl.conf and look for kernel.printk |
| 11:01.06 | Asad2005 | i am having problem installing debian 5. in debug console i se in-target libgnutls untrusted package to continue enter yes but this is a debug console how can i enter the yes |
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| 11:04.41 | moz | SerajewelKS, i don't understand why it should be me to write the name of the network. This way there is the risk of mistyping. I'd like to choose it from a list, instead, but it doesn't seem to be pèossible |
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| 11:05.20 | hark | moz: use the applet |
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| 11:06.11 | Younix | oh no |
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| 11:06.49 | moz | hark, i'm using it, and i can't see any list of networks |
| 11:07.14 | moz | hark, ok, there is a form, but it's always me who has to type the name of the network |
| 11:07.25 | hark | moz: read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian |
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| 11:10.47 | moz | hark, my question is: as installed the distro, I was asked to give a network name and a key in order to download the packages fromt the net and it was so immediate and simple. Now that i have my distro completed installed, why has it to be so complicated? |
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| 11:11.24 | hark | Asad2005: somehow the security repo is not authenticated for you, not sure if you can continue the install |
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| 11:11.55 | moz | could someone guide me step by step in the use of the applet? |
| 11:12.28 | hark | moz: did you configure your wireless interface in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 11:13.24 | AlexC_ | g'morning |
| 11:13.40 | moz | hark, no i didn't |
| 11:13.42 | hark | in order to use network-manager, it shouldn't be |
| 11:13.50 | moz | hark, no i didn't |
| 11:13.54 | AlexC_ | I've recently fitted a new network card, however it would appear the kernel modules to get it working are not loaded. How can I find out which module I need to load via modprobe? |
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| 11:14.20 | moz | hark, pls, just tell me on which item of the menu should I click |
| 11:14.22 | cahoot | AlexC_: find its pciid - lspci |
| 11:14.36 | hark | AlexC_: what does lspci -n |grep 0200 say? |
| 11:15.15 | hark | moz: is enable wireless checked when you click on the applet? |
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| 11:15.52 | moz | hark, you mean when I right click on the applet ... yes it is |
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| 11:17.11 | hark | moz: left click it, there should be a list of networks you can select (if everything is ok) |
| 11:17.14 | AlexC_ | cahoot, hark k, hold on |
| 11:17.45 | andy_js | Hi, I want lenny stable with GNOME. Which iso do I download? |
| 11:18.01 | andy_js | There are 31 |
| 11:18.20 | petemc | the first one |
| 11:18.31 | andy_js | thanks |
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| 11:19.24 | SerajewelKS | andy_js: if you have a decent network connection then get the netinstall instead |
| 11:20.01 | andy_js | My network connection sucks (needs ndiswrapper), thanks anyway though |
| 11:20.16 | moz | hark, no there is no list if i left click |
| 11:20.34 | SerajewelKS | moz: sounds like a bad driver then. again, what is your chipset? |
| 11:20.57 | moz | SerajewelKS, again, i don't know my chipset |
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| 11:22.20 | AlexC_ | cahoot, hakr ok, had to write this down (different computer): 04:00.0 0200 14e4:167a (rev 02) \n 05:04.0 0200 10ec8169 (rev 10) |
| 11:23.24 | moz | SerajewelKS, how can I know the chipset? |
| 11:23.25 | hark | moz: can you see any when you scan using iwlist? |
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| 11:23.57 | cahoot | AlexC_: looks like you need modprobe tg3 |
| 11:24.00 | moz | hark, iwlist requires an option. which one? |
| 11:24.01 | hark | judd: pciid 14e4:167a |
| 11:24.03 | judd | hark: [14e4:167a] is 'NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'tg3' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi?check=1&lspci=14e4:167a |
| 11:24.08 | robert83a1 | hello, from where can one update Debian Sarge ? 3.1r2 I need to use this |
| 11:24.19 | hark | !win cahoot |
| 11:24.19 | dpkg | Congratulations, cahoot! You have won the US presidency! |
| 11:24.34 | cahoot | have to decline that |
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| 11:24.35 | jelly | robert83a1: archive.debian.org |
| 11:24.37 | AlexC_ | cahoot, hark thanks, appreciate it. Btw, just how would I find that out my self? |
| 11:24.41 | nkuttler | robert83a1: there are no updates for sarge |
| 11:24.57 | moz | hark, iwlist scannig says: no scan results |
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| 11:25.31 | robert83a1 | nkuttler : I've used to install it a year ago, there were...what can I do I need to build kernel 2.6.8 |
| 11:25.35 | cahoot | AlexC_: the call to judd would be the more elegant way, I just googled |
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| 11:25.54 | moz | ok, I r |
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| 11:25.59 | nkuttler | robert83a1: sarge isn't supported any more. see what jelly said. |
| 11:26.10 | hark | moz: which driver are you using? what's the iface name? |
| 11:26.14 | robert83a1 | thanks I missed that |
| 11:26.17 | nkuttler | robert83a1: and if it's just the kernel, kernel.org |
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| 11:26.57 | jnewt8 | i tried to add a bridge, did so, with no errors, and now i have lost network connection, i del the bridge, and still no network connection? can anyone help? |
| 11:27.01 | jelly | nkuttler: one would likely need install 2.6.8 to be able to upgrade to etch |
| 11:27.03 | moz | hark, you ask me difficult question. I don't know. If you ask me directly to give the command to know it, maybe it is better |
| 11:27.11 | robert83a1 | buy the way can I upgrade from debian 3.0r2 all the way to debian lenny ? using dist-upgrade? |
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| 11:27.28 | hark | moz: run iwconfig, see the name there |
| 11:27.37 | jelly | robert83a1: yes, but one release at a time, no skipping directly to lenny |
| 11:27.39 | nkuttler | robert83a1: do sarge->etch->lenny, and read the release notes |
| 11:27.42 | SerajewelKS | moz: run lspci and paste the line corresponding to the wireless card |
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| 11:28.04 | robert83a1 | nkuttler : ok thank you |
| 11:28.17 | Asad2005 | hark, but i am installing from CD and said no for network |
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| 11:28.34 | moz | hark, here: http://pastebin.com/d43293b5a |
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| 11:29.11 | hark | moz: readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module |
| 11:29.17 | hark | looks like atheros |
| 11:29.21 | jnewt8 | i get this: There was an error changing the device's state, you will have to do it manually??? |
| 11:29.31 | moz | 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) |
| 11:29.31 | moz | d |
| 11:30.09 | moz | readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module |
| 11:30.09 | moz | ../../../../module/ath5k |
| 11:30.25 | hark | moz: this is lenny? |
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| 11:30.40 | moz | i guess so, how can check it? |
| 11:30.56 | hark | moz: what does uname -r say? |
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| 11:31.12 | moz | uname -r |
| 11:31.12 | moz | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 11:31.16 | hark | moz: might want to try madwifi instead |
| 11:31.25 | moz | ok, let's try it |
| 11:31.37 | moz | hark, just tell me what to do, pls |
| 11:31.44 | Deepa | madwifi is neat |
| 11:31.54 | hark | moz: /msg dpkg madwifi-install |
| 11:32.05 | moz | hark, i installed madwifi before and then i removed |
| 11:32.23 | worr | the ath5k kernel module doesn't work that well in Lenny |
| 11:32.27 | worr | I use madwifi |
| 11:33.10 | moz | hark, you mean i have to type "dpkg madwifi-install"? |
| 11:33.27 | Deepa | apt-get maybe |
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| 11:33.37 | hark | moz: dpkg is a bot, here in irc "/msg dpkg madwifi-install" |
| 11:34.11 | moz | hark, so, apt-get install madwifi .ok? |
| 11:34.50 | Farhadix | Hi guys, there was a command for compiling modules, that was 2 two-charecter command. "ma ia"? |
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| 11:35.05 | et | m-a a-i |
| 11:35.30 | moz | hark, apt-get install madwifi-install |
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| 11:35.53 | Farhadix | et, under what package? |
| 11:36.25 | Deepa | Farhadix: apt-file |
| 11:36.26 | abrotman | Farhadix: module-assistant |
| 11:36.36 | hark | !tell moz about madwifi-install |
| 11:37.16 | moz | hark, pls, just tell me yourself about it. should i install it through apt-get? |
| 11:37.35 | Deepa | moz: follow dpkg's instructions |
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| 11:37.55 | Farhadix | thanks et |
| 11:37.56 | awful | Need People on !NEW! MuOnline Season 4 Server /msg me !!!!!!! |
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| 11:38.32 | awful | http://mu.plevky.lv/ |
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| 11:39.16 | hark | moz: get it? |
| 11:39.22 | cheshirekiwi | hello |
| 11:39.23 | moz | hark, no |
| 11:39.25 | cheshirekiwi | can I get some help? |
| 11:39.32 | moz | i typed /msg dpkg madwifi-instal and nothing happened |
| 11:39.39 | moz | i typed /msg dpkg madwifi-install and nothing happened |
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| 11:39.57 | cheshirekiwi | I have no idea how to get yaboot to work |
| 11:40.17 | nkuttler | cheshirekiwi: isn't that for ppc? |
| 11:40.22 | cheshirekiwi | yeah... |
| 11:40.25 | hark | moz: which irc client are you using? |
| 11:40.26 | flokuehn | moz: what irc client do you use? |
| 11:40.29 | nkuttler | cheshirekiwi: try #debian-ppc |
| 11:40.32 | flokuehn | hark: heh |
| 11:40.37 | moz | hark, xchat |
| 11:40.38 | cheshirekiwi | ah |
| 11:40.41 | nkuttler | cheshirekiwi: oh, on oftc probably |
| 11:40.41 | cheshirekiwi | thank you |
| 11:40.58 | moz | hark, pls, let's go to the point |
| 11:41.13 | moz | hark, it is already hard enough |
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| 11:42.49 | moz | ok, i resign. It's too complicated and you don't seem to be willing to solve it in a reasonable amount of time |
| 11:42.54 | moz | thank you everybofy |
| 11:42.59 | moz | everybody |
| 11:43.15 | hark | damn SLAs! |
| 11:43.21 | jelly | !customer |
| 11:43.21 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
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| 11:43.28 | kunal113 | your welcome. |
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| 11:43.34 | jelly | hey... who changed that! |
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| 11:44.08 | nkuttler | !literal customer |
| 11:44.08 | dpkg | "customer" is "<REPLY> Another happy customer leaves the building||<reply> A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed!" |
| 11:44.13 | monstro | Hi all, |
| 11:44.26 | fengor | hmm ok where in lenny is the menu.lst hidden? i dont have it where i would expect it (/boot/grub/menu.lst) |
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| 11:44.31 | jnewt8 | what would make ifconfig be command not found? |
| 11:44.33 | jnewt8 | could |
| 11:44.40 | monstro | Anyone suggest a good Softphone for Debian? |
| 11:44.57 | nkuttler | jnewt8: /sbin/ in path? |
| 11:45.01 | hark | fengor: did you install grub2 instead? |
| 11:45.06 | SQlvpapir | igeika or sth like that monstro |
| 11:45.20 | SQlvpapir | its with the full blown gnome.. check dependencies |
| 11:45.20 | hark | jnewt8: try /sbin/ifconfig |
| 11:45.24 | fengor | hmm could be hark, where do i add the vga parameter in grub 2 then? |
| 11:45.58 | jnewt8 | hark: yes, now i have it, could you elaborate as to why? |
| 11:46.04 | hark | ekiga* |
| 11:46.25 | monstro | SQlvpapir: igeika? |
| 11:46.29 | hark | jnewt8: it's not in your PATH |
| 11:46.30 | monstro | Where I find? |
| 11:46.54 | jnewt8 | hark: aha, that makes sense, thanks. |
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| 11:47.07 | SQlvpapir | monstro: ekiga |
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| 11:47.26 | SQlvpapir | aptitude show ekiga |
| 11:47.33 | Raylz | hi, can anyone help me with confixx and my mailserver? |
| 11:47.47 | Raylz | i can receive mails over my webmail acc |
| 11:47.52 | nkuttler | Raylz: confixx is not debian |
| 11:47.55 | Raylz | but i dont know the login data for evolution |
| 11:48.09 | Raylz | nkuttler: i know, but i donw know where to ask, im running lenny on the server |
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| 11:48.29 | nkuttler | Raylz: probably whoever sold you that |
| 11:48.45 | Raylz | nkuttler: to let em charge me 50 bucks :)? |
| 11:48.51 | nkuttler | Raylz: confixx is not debian |
| 11:49.13 | Raylz | i know but i guess a lot of you guys run servers |
| 11:49.17 | jnewt8 | hark: i checked the path variable, i can see the included directories, is this a file, one that i can edit? if so, where. ( i just did echo $PATH) to see. |
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| 11:51.03 | anebi | hi |
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| 11:51.38 | anebi | i installed debian 5.0 on a virtual machine and i'm trying to install dkms package, but it says that cannot find it, can you tell me where can i find this package? |
| 11:51.50 | anebi | probably i have a problem with debian repositories |
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| 11:52.31 | scribeskul | Is there anyway to get GLX working with two different Video Cards & Xinerama, or something similar? I am using an AGP Nvidia 5200 & a PCI Nvidia TNT. |
| 11:52.37 | anebi | i am using redhat distributions, but i want to test debian and go with this distro |
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| 11:53.09 | hark | jnewt8: no, you don't want to do that. leave /sbin/ out of your path |
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| 11:53.35 | jelly | !tell anebi -about search |
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| 11:53.53 | nkuttler | Raylz: you probably want to ssh into your 'server' and configure things from there. i doubt anybody can help you with web based admin stuff in here. |
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| 11:54.23 | anebi | jelly: thanks |
| 11:54.38 | et | hark: path without sbin drives me mad. no ifconfig etc |
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| 11:54.53 | Raylz | nkuttler: too bad |
| 11:54.55 | Arafangion | et: So, add it. |
| 11:54.57 | jnewt8 | hark: ok, why? |
| 11:55.14 | nkuttler | wonders if a vps qualifies as real debian anyway |
| 11:55.23 | et | Arafangion: he advised not to, that's what sparked that comment |
| 11:55.43 | jelly | anebi: it's entirely possible there's nothing like your "dkms" in Debian, however |
| 11:56.25 | anebi | jelly: i see, it looks to me this too :) i will check in google to see |
| 11:56.35 | Arafangion | et: Philosophically, why do you want system binaries added to the default path for users? |
| 11:56.35 | jelly | at least apt-cache search dkms doesn't find it |
| 11:56.46 | abrotman | anebi: what is dkms ? |
| 11:56.53 | hark | jnewt8: ok, then look in your ~/.profile |
| 11:57.10 | Deepa | nkuttler: why would a vps be 'fake'? |
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| 11:57.28 | nkuttler | Deepa: no debian kernel for starters |
| 11:58.02 | Deepa | What if the host is running debian? |
| 11:58.05 | anebi | abrotman: dynamic kernel module support :) |
| 11:58.14 | abrotman | oh |
| 11:58.26 | abrotman | anebi: have a URL with a description? |
| 11:58.26 | jelly | wonders wtf that is |
| 11:58.42 | Deepa | Being able to unload and load modules at need? |
| 11:59.06 | anebi | abrotman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Kernel_Module_Support |
| 11:59.22 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 11:59.22 | dpkg | i guess module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install .deb packages with them, or "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare" http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant |
| 11:59.25 | nkuttler | Deepa: not that i really care. i admin a few vps myself |
| 11:59.29 | abrotman | anebi: ^^ is what you want in debian .. i thihnk |
| 11:59.50 | Deepa | nkuttler: I run a VPS... on NetBSD! |
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| 12:00.01 | nkuttler | Deepa: good for you |
| 12:00.06 | anebi | abrotman: thanks i will check this |
| 12:00.26 | Deepa | I just felt like shouting it to see if I got banned |
| 12:00.26 | scribeskul | Is there anyway to get GLX working with two different Video Cards & Xinerama, or something similar? I am using an AGP Nvidia 5200 & a PCI Nvidia TNT. |
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| 12:01.53 | ringo999 | hi, i installed sun-java-jdk6 with aptitude, and now i have to set my classpath, but where are the library files installed to? |
| 12:01.58 | daggett | hi all |
| 12:02.30 | maligor | oo, this is fantastic, gnome-settings-daemon fails to start because gstreamer ffmpeg plugin segfaults on load, talk about excellent error management |
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| 12:03.21 | toshiba510cdt | <hark> thanks. your suggestion solved the problem. however, i want to redirect all low-level messages to tty3 only. how can i do that? |
| 12:04.10 | zer0c00l | hello room, i have just installed debian in one of my desktop machine..I have intel ethernet adapter modprobe -k command shows eepro100 module is loaded, but i cannot 'ifup eth0' my network it says some FLAG error |
| 12:04.37 | daggett | I can't get Xorg to start using an unprivileged user in inittab: unothorized user (I've tried Xwrapper.config things and su USER -l -c "bash --login startx" it either is not secured or doesn't work at all. what can I do next ? |
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| 12:04.50 | jnewt8 | i cannot figure out why this morning i have no network connection? enable / disable eth0, dhcp / static ... i need some suggestions. thanks. |
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| 12:06.56 | jnewt8 | aha, kde keeps loosing my default gateway?!?!? |
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| 12:07.36 | petemc | jnewt8: that sounds unlikely |
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| 12:08.28 | jnewt8 | i put it in, click apply, then ok, then close control panel, open it up, it is blank again |
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| 12:08.38 | Paul_UK | can anyone tell me why TEST/XML.pm is not being found in @INC when libtest-xml-simple-perl is already installed? |
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| 12:08.49 | jnewt8 | petemc: is there another way to do it w/o konsole? |
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| 12:09.07 | herakles | Hi, I've two remote servers. One as web server and the other is DB (MySQL). I'm looking for a simple backup solution. I've found rdiff-backup, backup-manager, boxbackup, duplicity and rsnapshot. I haven't tested all of them. Which one do you suggest and why? |
| 12:09.10 | cfchris6 | what is the procedure to run wireshark as unprivileged user on debian and get access on the interfaces anyway? (on other distros there is a group wireshark, I add users to that should be allowed to run it, however, such a group seems not to exist on debian) |
| 12:09.43 | jnewt8 | petemc: it is repeatable. |
| 12:09.45 | petemc | jnewt8: not sure, you should take the time to learn how to check your network connection on the command line, its not hard and is a much more reliable way than pissing about with front ends |
| 12:10.18 | cfchris6 | herakles: I use rsnapshot and it works nice, however I am not sure whether that is a good way to back up a mysql database |
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| 12:11.07 | herakles | cfchris6, Yes, I've thought same thing |
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| 12:13.26 | jnewt8 | petemc: well, same result when checking w/ cmd line, maybe it is the setting of the gateway? |
| 12:14.13 | jnewt8 | petemc: kde cannot enable/disable my interfaces either, that has to be done with the command line. |
| 12:14.24 | abrotman | Paul_UK: are oyu sure that's the right path ? |
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| 12:15.05 | abrotman | Paul_UK: seems to include TEST/XML/Simple.pm .. and that's it |
| 12:15.14 | zer0c00l | do u know where the ip address are stored in debian it /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ in fedora |
| 12:15.26 | abrotman | zer0c00l: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:15.33 | abrotman | dpkg: find TEST/XML.pm lenny |
| 12:15.45 | abrotman | !tell zer0c00l about reference |
| 12:15.59 | zer0c00l | ok abrotman |
| 12:16.34 | zer0c00l | abrotman:ok |
| 12:16.38 | zer0c00l | ;) |
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| 12:17.00 | bpun | what's the magic number signature for ext2/3 ? |
| 12:17.04 | bpun | EB? |
| 12:17.07 | Paul_UK | abrotman: no im not sure |
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| 12:18.57 | hark | toshiba510cdt: hmm, don't know |
| 12:18.58 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 12:19.33 | Fox_1_ | people is there other skype client for linux then cleint from skype.com? |
| 12:20.06 | toshiba510cdt | perhaps someone else does know. how can i have all low-level kernel messages sent to tty3 only? i do not want them messages appearing on tty1 and tty2 |
| 12:21.39 | Younix | why can't i find the linux-headers package |
| 12:21.42 | Younix | for my kernel |
| 12:21.48 | Younix | FreeBSD ecstasy.unixfire.net 5.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Sun May 8 10:21:06 UTC 2005 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 |
| 12:21.52 | Younix | whoops |
| 12:22.00 | abrotman | Younix: because you're not using linux? :) |
| 12:22.12 | Younix | /var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source |
| 12:22.13 | Younix | ... |
| 12:22.14 | abrotman | Fox_1_: ask #skype |
| 12:22.18 | Younix | damnit |
| 12:22.20 | abrotman | Younix: using unstble ? |
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| 12:22.29 | abrotman | unstable even ... |
| 12:22.29 | Younix | 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 12:22.30 | Younix | abrotman: no |
| 12:22.44 | abrotman | Younix: do you have a security.debian.org source? |
| 12:22.44 | Younix | lenny |
| 12:22.47 | Younix | yes |
| 12:22.50 | abrotman | lenny is 2.6.26 |
| 12:22.59 | Younix | well, why didn't it update my kernel |
| 12:23.03 | abrotman | do you have linux-image-686 installed ? |
| 12:23.11 | Younix | uh i upgraded from etch |
| 12:23.15 | Younix | according to documentation |
| 12:23.16 | abrotman | do you have linux-image-686 installed ? |
| 12:23.20 | Younix | i dont know |
| 12:23.26 | abrotman | so try to install it .. see what happens |
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| 12:23.47 | Fox_1_ | abrotman: there is no #skype channel :) |
| 12:24.06 | abrotman | used to be ... |
| 12:24.19 | Younix | abrotman: so it's installed |
| 12:24.46 | Younix | restarts |
| 12:24.51 | abrotman | Younix: did you perhaps pin the package? put the output of `apt-cache policy` in a pastebin |
| 12:24.54 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
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| 12:27.04 | Younix | abrotman: it's updated now |
| 12:27.08 | Younix | thanks. :P |
| 12:27.09 | abrotman | Younix: got your new kernel now? |
| 12:27.13 | Younix | yes |
| 12:27.21 | abrotman | Younix: so you should now be able to install the headers package |
| 12:27.27 | abrotman | if you haven't already |
| 12:27.27 | Younix | i rebooted after upgrading to lenny..no idea why the kernel remained the same |
| 12:27.45 | abrotman | Younix: sounds like you didn't have the linux-image-686 installed .. that metapackage is used when upgrading the kernel |
| 12:27.52 | Younix | oh |
| 12:28.19 | abrotman | !metapackage |
| 12:28.20 | dpkg | methinks metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. Roy Rogers never metapackage he didn't like. it's supposed to be WILL rogers The version of a metapackage can be misleading -- look at what it depends on instead (see the kde metapackage for an example). |
| 12:28.23 | tho | how would i go about having shorewall restart and catch the new ip address of my ppp0 interface if my pppoe connection dies? |
| 12:28.38 | abrotman | can't shorewall work in interface name instead of IP ? |
| 12:29.01 | tho | abrotman: i'm not really sure if it does, my connection hasn't died yet |
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| 12:30.29 | tho | it might be very well possible that it does, i just got confused by the notice in /etc/default/shorewall telling me to hold execution of shorewall until the ppp interface has gotten an ip address. |
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| 12:32.11 | tho | actually, my external ip address isn't listed in any of the iptables rules shorewall has created. i presume it's working in interface mode then? |
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| 12:35.32 | tho | what happens if say, pppd dies and the ppp0 interface disappears while iptables still has references to it and forwards traffic from the local net to it? |
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| 12:37.08 | abrotman | tho: did you ask the other person still using dialup? :) |
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| 12:38.27 | mmlj4 | hee |
| 12:38.59 | petemc | if you use an adsl device it can appera as ppp |
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| 12:39.15 | cahoot | isn't ppp what a lot of 'mobile broadband' uses? |
| 12:39.15 | petemc | </pedant> |
| 12:39.42 | Younix | still having touble wih nvidia, abrotman |
| 12:39.46 | abrotman | shocker ... |
| 12:39.51 | abrotman | petemc: i was joking .. |
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| 12:39.58 | Younix | i followed everything on the wiki. |
| 12:40.10 | abrotman | !nvidia lenny |
| 12:40.12 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 12:40.15 | abrotman | !lenny nvidia |
| 12:40.16 | Younix | got to the 'glxinfo' part, uh.. |
| 12:40.18 | petemc | abrotman: too early for jokes, even on gmt! |
| 12:40.20 | Younix | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 12:40.36 | p0g0 | tho: the router will report that there is no route. |
| 12:40.43 | abrotman | petemc: it's not my fault your humor is failing because you have no cheesesteaks! |
| 12:40.47 | Younix | suspects an X configuration issue |
| 12:41.11 | abrotman | !nvidia m-a |
| 12:41.11 | dpkg | The short version: aptitude install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. For instructions that should work, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
| 12:41.13 | et | Arafangion: he said "your", not "default" |
| 12:41.13 | petemc | abrotman: no decent cheesesteaks anyway, i can get minute steal sandwiches, not the same tho |
| 12:41.19 | Younix | abrotman: already did it |
| 12:41.21 | abrotman | petemc: ewww |
| 12:41.22 | petemc | s/eal/eak/ |
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| 12:41.25 | petemc | yeah |
| 12:41.37 | aisx | is it possible to downgrade from 1.8.7 to 1.8.6 ruby in 5.0 ? |
| 12:41.40 | jnewt8 | why does brctl addbr br0 erase my gateway? |
| 12:42.10 | abrotman | jebus .. that wiki page is out of control |
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| 12:43.23 | Younix | abrotman: solution? |
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| 12:43.57 | abrotman | Younix: buy a discrete intel card? |
| 12:44.03 | abrotman | oh crap .. they *still* don't exist |
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| 12:44.20 | abrotman | Younix: wait around a bit .. ask again in awhile .. double check your steps in the mean time |
| 12:44.29 | Younix | i've already double checked |
| 12:44.35 | Younix | it's frustrating. |
| 12:44.41 | scribeskul | Is there anyway to get GLX working with two different Video Cards & Xinerama, or something similar? I am using an AGP Nvidia 5200 & a PCI Nvidia TNT. |
| 12:45.16 | abrotman | Younix: which is why i don't advocate buying from them :) |
| 12:45.21 | abrotman | Younix: which card do you have? |
| 12:45.22 | tho | p0g0: allright, so iptables wouldn't immediately invalidate all references to ppp0 leaving my firewall in a completely broken state until i reload the rules? |
| 12:46.09 | Paul_UK | Hi, does anyone know what package provides Test::XML and Test::XML::Order |
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| 12:48.10 | abrotman | Paul_UK: in lenny, the only one i can find that looks nearly the same is the one you already have |
| 12:48.34 | abrotman | !dh-make-perl |
| 12:48.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, dh-make-perl is a packaged script that converts Perl modules snagged from CPAN into .deb archives. You get to use CPAN archives, Debian's dependencies stay in one piece, everybody's happy. |
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| 12:49.21 | Paul_UK | abrotman: yeah thats what im running dh-make-perl the weird thing is when i try to do it by hand, i.e perl makefile,pl it too complains that it cant find TEST::XML |
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| 12:49.53 | sidux | where is sidux irc channel|} |
| 12:50.01 | abrotman | sidux: #sidux on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:50.03 | abrotman | willy: ^^ |
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| 12:51.21 | jnewt8 | route add -net 192.168.1.111 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.110 dev eth0 shows netmask doesn't match route address? |
| 12:51.31 | Raylz | i get a strange error -bash: move: command not found |
| 12:51.35 | Raylz | argh |
| 12:51.37 | Raylz | mv! |
| 12:51.38 | Raylz | sry |
| 12:51.52 | seria-mau | i am trying to connect via stunnel to an imap server with tls but get this error: http://paste.debian.net/30500/ |
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| 12:52.44 | salvin2 | Raylz, lol |
| 12:52.53 | Raylz | salvin2: xD |
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| 12:54.02 | seria-mau | it's the same for sslVersion = SSLv3 and the connection simply times out when sslVersion = SSLv2 |
| 12:54.14 | seria-mau | i can use the mailbox with mutt |
| 12:54.21 | seria-mau | over tls |
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| 12:56.58 | valdyn | tho: you want to use /etc/ip-up.d/ and /etc/ip-down.d/ |
| 12:57.03 | Younix | abrotman: GeForce4 MX 420 |
| 12:57.11 | abrotman | is that Legacy? |
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| 12:57.28 | Younix | not sure |
| 12:58.03 | Younix | oh |
| 12:58.05 | Younix | yea, i guess it is |
| 12:58.09 | valdyn | jnewt8: 192.168.1.111 is supposed to be a *net* ? |
| 12:58.58 | Younix | abrotman: yes it is |
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| 12:59.15 | abrotman | might be different steps for those |
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| 12:59.22 | Younix | bah |
| 12:59.23 | SQlvpapir | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:59.49 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: how did you mount it manually? |
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| 13:00.24 | qwerty | hi |
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| 13:00.36 | SQlvpapir | valdyn: yup mounted manually.. but for external devices fstab or root is not very convenient |
| 13:00.39 | qwerty | i need a good webhosting please |
| 13:00.47 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: *how* did you mount it manually |
| 13:01.03 | Younix | someone kicked him? |
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| 13:01.11 | valdyn | he renamed |
| 13:01.14 | Younix | to what |
| 13:01.18 | Younix | unignores NICKS |
| 13:01.21 | valdyn | 14:00 -!- qwerty is now known as Guest81391 |
| 13:01.24 | SQlvpapir | ntfs-3g /dev/ice /mnt/ntfs |
| 13:01.33 | Younix | Guest81391: www.apache.org |
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| 13:01.41 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: that does not give write access |
| 13:01.49 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: so trash wont work afaict |
| 13:01.59 | SQlvpapir | woups used --readwrite |
| 13:02.03 | HNT3 | Hello everybody, I'm running Lenny (amd64 - KDE) on a HP Pavillon DV5-1030 laptop. I would like to configure suspend (disk and ram) but I'm a little confuse as they are several packages to do that (hibernate, pm-utils, uswsusp), what tools should I use ? |
| 13:02.05 | Younix | abrotman: ideas? |
| 13:02.23 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: gnome will use ntfs-3g too if its intalled |
| 13:02.32 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: gnome-volume-manager even |
| 13:02.54 | abrotman | Younix: apt-cache search nvidia legacy .. one of those may be for you |
| 13:03.00 | Younix | fish. |
| 13:03.04 | SQlvpapir | valdyn: I installed that already.. reboot required or something? |
| 13:03.07 | abrotman | moo ? |
| 13:03.17 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: no, certainly not a reboot |
| 13:03.32 | valdyn | SQlvpapir: but since i dont know what you need to restart with certainty, reboot is ok |
| 13:04.10 | Younix | abrotman: i should install it with m-a? |
| 13:04.21 | valdyn | HNT3: pm-utils builds on uswsusp |
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| 13:04.24 | valdyn | HNT3: use that. |
| 13:04.25 | abrotman | Younix: honestly not sure .. it seems like they're already compiled |
| 13:04.37 | valdyn | HNT3: meaning install pm-utils, which will grab uswsusp |
| 13:04.56 | SQlvpapir | valdyn: ok Ill give it a try soon :) |
| 13:05.06 | valdyn | HNT3: and dont install hibernate |
| 13:05.23 | valdyn | HNT3: its kind of neat, but it does not integrate with anything else by default |
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| 13:05.27 | HNT3 | valdyn: ok thx for the info, I just need to install the package or is there some special hacks to do ? |
| 13:05.28 | Younix | abrotman: hah. i think that did the trick. now i can actually modprobe it. |
| 13:05.30 | sepult | what happened to ilisp ? |
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| 13:05.36 | Younix | grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2>&1|grep 'nv\|vesa' |
| 13:05.36 | sepult | is it not maintained ? |
| 13:05.39 | Younix | whoops |
| 13:05.52 | valdyn | HNT3: theres a db with supported systems included, if yours is not listed.. |
| 13:06.08 | HNT3 | valdyn: ok, I'll take a look |
| 13:06.50 | valdyn | HNT3: theres a guide somewhere how to proceed if your system is not listed |
| 13:06.58 | valdyn | HNT3: and how to properly debug it |
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| 13:07.39 | dimm | hello! |
| 13:07.55 | valdyn | HNT3: like this one: http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram |
| 13:08.30 | valdyn | HNT3: and obviously this one: http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk |
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| 13:08.48 | valdyn | HNT3: be careful if your system is not listed |
| 13:08.58 | valdyn | HNT3: broken suspend can loose your data |
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| 13:09.10 | HNT3 | valdyn: ok and thank you for all thos informations |
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| 13:09.20 | steven_ | Hi anyone got vlans working with VDE (virtualsquare) on debian |
| 13:09.50 | jelly | virtualwhat? |
| 13:09.54 | dimm | what latest version of finch for etch? my version is 2.5.3 and finch doesn't work with icq |
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| 13:11.34 | valdyn | judd: versions pidgin |
| 13:11.35 | judd | valdyn: pidgin -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.4.3-4 squeeze: 2.5.4-2 sid: 2.5.5-1 |
| 13:11.45 | valdyn | dimm: 2.5.5 |
| 13:11.49 | dimm | and can i install package from sid to etch? |
| 13:11.55 | valdyn | dimm: i doubt that |
| 13:11.58 | steven_ | jelly: VDE virtual distributed ethernet |
| 13:12.05 | valdyn | !ssb |
| 13:12.06 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 13:12.12 | valdyn | dimm: try ^^^ maybe |
| 13:12.16 | abrotman | dimm: did this just start? someone else was saying that icq broke the other day |
| 13:12.19 | abrotman | judd: verisons finch |
| 13:12.19 | judd | abrotman: Error: "verisons" is not a valid command. |
| 13:12.23 | abrotman | judd: versions finch |
| 13:12.23 | judd | abrotman: finch -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.4.3-4 squeeze: 2.5.4-2 sid: 2.5.5-1 |
| 13:12.24 | valdyn | abrotman: few days ago |
| 13:12.33 | Younix | abrotman: HAH! finally fixed it. thanks for all your help and patience. |
| 13:12.37 | jelly | abrotman: they brok^Wupgraded the protocol this weekend, afaik |
| 13:12.50 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i am having trouble understanding how to use the route then. i want the nic to have an address of 192.168.1.111, and the gw to be 192.168.1.110 (this is also the dhcp server), can you explain? |
| 13:12.53 | abrotman | valdyn: seems his finch is already newer than bpo |
| 13:13.09 | dimm | etch-backports is latest then etch? |
| 13:13.12 | valdyn | jnewt8: why are you using -net when 192.168.1.111 is only an ip address |
| 13:13.13 | jelly | _maybe_ that 2.5.5 version would work. |
| 13:13.35 | dimm | jelly, yes 2.5.5 is working, but it is not in stable thread |
| 13:13.41 | scribeskul | Is there anyway to get GLX working with two different Video Cards & Xinerama, or something similar? I am using an AGP Nvidia 5200 & a PCI Nvidia TNT. |
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| 13:13.51 | jelly | dimm: you'll need to backport it like dpkg said above, then |
| 13:13.58 | valdyn | jnewt8: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.111; route add default gw 192.168.1.110 |
| 13:14.09 | abrotman | scribeskul: uhm .. verify in #xorg, but i believe that xinerama breaks glx on the second screen ? |
| 13:14.17 | jelly | dimm: etch is not stable any more, lenny is the new stable |
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| 13:14.32 | abrotman | scribeskul: but i haven't heard about that in awhile .. so maybe not true anymore |
| 13:14.32 | valdyn | jnewt8: specying network or netmask or broadcast is not required in this case |
| 13:14.49 | scribeskul | abrotman thanks! much appreciated! |
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| 13:15.07 | abrotman | maybe his client only supports one channel .. |
| 13:15.15 | jelly | stew: does judd know about lenny-backports? I guess they're probably empty at the moment... |
| 13:15.46 | valdyn | jnewt8: my suggestion assumes that this is like a common setup, you never told me what you are trying to achieve precisely |
| 13:15.47 | abrotman | judd: versions apt-dater |
| 13:15.47 | judd | abrotman: apt-dater -- lenny-backports: 0.7.0-1~bpo50+1 sid: 0.7.0-1 squeeze: 0.7.0-1 |
| 13:15.55 | stew | jelly: yes! |
| 13:16.04 | abrotman | jelly: quite a few actually http://backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 13:16.22 | valdyn | abrotman: yes, he needs the sid version |
| 13:16.31 | abrotman | i figured .. |
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| 13:19.32 | jelly | ooh, newer ikiwiki |
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| 13:22.32 | jpinx | Hmm - dpkg doesn't know what apt-dater is - so nor do I ;) |
| 13:22.58 | jnewt8 | valdyn: ultimately i am setting up this computer as a front end firewall, it has two nics, and will route traffic to either a webserver or another firewalled box protecting the internal network. currently there is a windows small business server doing this, but i am trying to replace it. |
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| 13:24.20 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i have internet access, but loose it when i try to bridge the connections. this is due to the fact that for some reason the gateway is lost when doing the brctl addif eth0 eth1 |
| 13:24.57 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i then loose internet connection for the whole network. |
| 13:25.47 | denstark | Hey all. I have an intel 945 graphics card and I want to make debian use the 'intel' driver instead of the i945 one, so I can get better performance. How can I do this in debian? I've looked around and googled but wasn't able to find anything |
| 13:26.14 | jelly | denstark: which debian release? |
| 13:26.20 | denstark | jelly: 5.0 |
| 13:26.30 | SerajewelKS | is it just me or is fuse on lenny hopelessly fucked |
| 13:26.46 | denstark | SerajewelKS: I'm hoping it's just you ;-) |
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| 13:26.52 | SerajewelKS | or rather 2.6.26 |
| 13:26.55 | jelly | denstark: there's only one driver for intel cards in 5.0 (lenny). |
| 13:27.07 | zer0c00l | ifconfig is not listing my ethernet connection what to do? |
| 13:27.12 | jelly | denstark: that is, you're already using the intel driver |
| 13:27.15 | SerajewelKS | on every box i have running lenny, fuse filesystems (sshfs, encfs, etc, all of them) cause a kernel panic after a minute or two of intense I/O |
| 13:27.17 | zer0c00l | modprobe -k lists eepro100 |
| 13:27.26 | SerajewelKS | erm, not panic, but a softlock |
| 13:27.37 | denstark | jelly: I see, thank you |
| 13:27.40 | valdyn | jnewt8: why bridging when theres ipmasq? |
| 13:28.25 | valdyn | jnewt8: do you understand how ip works at all? whats the ip address on the 2nd nic? |
| 13:28.26 | jelly | SerajewelKS: care to pastebin your softlock? |
| 13:28.47 | hark | zer0c00l: does ifconfig -a ? |
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| 13:29.03 | SerajewelKS | jelly: give me a few and i'll reproduce it |
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| 13:29.17 | jelly | SerajewelKS: uh, /var/log/kern.log |
| 13:29.31 | zer0c00l | hark:it lists eth0 |
| 13:29.47 | zer0c00l | hark:but i cannot make my network up |
| 13:30.05 | ringo999 | anybody here whos using netbeans with svn+ssh? I'm having problems creating a neatbeans project from a checkout. I'll explain more if someone is willing to help... |
| 13:30.06 | zer0c00l | ifup eth0 fails with error msgs |
| 13:30.16 | SerajewelKS | jelly: let me see if it's still there |
| 13:30.25 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: define "intense i/o" |
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| 13:30.59 | nivanson | can a corrupt filesystem on my harddrive cause a live cd to not boot? i had a harddisk failure the other day and i was not able to boot the computer even on a live cd while it was plugged in. I have gotten it to work some now, and I had many errors on the filesystem. It seems to be working fine now, but I wonder if this was a mere filesystem error or of it was a hardware problem. It couldnt even load grub sometimes ... |
| 13:31.08 | valdyn | nivanson: no |
| 13:31.10 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: like copying 10+ megs |
| 13:31.13 | SerajewelKS | into the filesystem |
| 13:31.26 | SerajewelKS | reads don't seem to be as prone to locking |
| 13:31.29 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: ok, ill try sshfs the other way round i do it normally |
| 13:31.50 | SerajewelKS | jelly, valdyn: http://pastebin.ca/1359871 |
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| 13:32.10 | nivanson | valdyn: so having errors on bootup of a livecd with the harddrive connected means that the hardware is breaking down on me? |
| 13:32.17 | dust | sorry, forgot what was the channel for sidux_ |
| 13:32.29 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i am bridging, b/c from what i read, that is how to do a pass-through to another part of the network. i understand the basics of how ip addressing works. the addy on the second nic is as of right now 192.168.1.112. i am not an IT person, i am just the one who gets stuck fixing the windows server when down. |
| 13:32.56 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: at ~10mb/sec, working fine |
| 13:33.15 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: on 2.6.26? |
| 13:33.21 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: debians kernel |
| 13:33.37 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: 399802368 4% 7.92MB/s 0:16:42 |
| 13:33.40 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: there are a lot of debian kernels, and some aren't upgraded automatically :) |
| 13:33.48 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: e.g. it works just fine on 2.6.24, 2.6.25, and 2.6.28 |
| 13:33.51 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: 2.6.16-1-686, lenny |
| 13:33.55 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: 2.6.26-1-686, lenny |
| 13:33.56 | hark | dust: giyf |
| 13:33.59 | SerajewelKS | hmm |
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| 13:34.15 | dust | hmm |
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| 13:34.25 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: thats a completely clean lenny system |
| 13:34.27 | dust | what |
| 13:34.32 | dust | giyf_ |
| 13:34.35 | SerajewelKS | i can reproduce this on 2.6.26 on my desktop, a vm on my desktop, my laptop, and a vm on my laptop |
| 13:34.53 | jelly | !sidux |
| 13:34.53 | dpkg | i heard sidux is <Debian based> (sid) live distro with special focus on clean and easy hard disk install. [from http://sidux.com/Article2.html] It's <OT> in #debian. Please /join #sidux (on <oftc>). |
| 13:34.55 | dust | i dont like this distro u dont even get nvidia drivers |
| 13:34.58 | dust | neither gnome!!! |
| 13:35.04 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: vms are broken so many way, dont trust that |
| 13:35.09 | SerajewelKS | !tell dust about nvidia one-liner |
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| 13:35.36 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: either way, two different physical boxes do this |
| 13:35.37 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i know where i am now, and what the end result should be, i just don't know the steps to take to get there. If you see some concept that i am missing, i would be very grateful if you could correct it for me. |
| 13:35.41 | SerajewelKS | with both encfs and sshfs |
| 13:35.41 | jelly | dust: so, #sidux on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:36.01 | miksuh | SerajewelKS: maybe you have some dma problems or something like that |
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| 13:36.08 | valdyn | jnewt8: youre not telling me: what is the ip addresses, what is the network masks |
| 13:36.25 | SerajewelKS | miksuh: perhaps, but why would it happen only with fuse filesystems? |
| 13:36.29 | jelly | SerajewelKS: that soft lockup doesn't look fuse related at all |
| 13:36.52 | SerajewelKS | miksuh: i can write furiously to an ext3 volume spread across 2 disks with lvm2 |
| 13:37.12 | SerajewelKS | jelly: nevertheless, it only ever happens when i am using a fuse filesystem, and only when writing to it |
| 13:37.25 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: please get several errors in dmesg to see if they are identical |
| 13:37.58 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: why the fuck is this thing using ide_generic? |
| 13:38.05 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i'll experiment with it throughout the day, i have class in :15 |
| 13:38.13 | jelly | SerajewelKS: I'd pastebin the last 1000-ish lines of kern.log and report to #debian-kernel (irc.debian.org) |
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| 13:38.25 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: you really want to use the proper native mode and driver on your sata or ide interface |
| 13:38.26 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: the what who? |
| 13:38.31 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: ide_generic kills performance |
| 13:38.45 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: i just fixed that one for someone last night |
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| 13:38.53 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: its a bios setting |
| 13:38.54 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: this backlog is from a VM. i will try to get one from a real box today. |
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| 13:39.05 | jelly | SerajewelKS: I've just booted to 2.6.28-1-686 and can't be bothered to try reproducing, sorry :-) |
| 13:39.07 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: oh, that vm on ide_generic? |
| 13:39.14 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: yes |
| 13:39.20 | SerajewelKS | jelly: i have no problems with 2.6.28 either |
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| 13:39.26 | dust | is debian good for multimedia desktop use_ |
| 13:39.27 | jnewt8 | valdyn: the ip address of eth0 is 192.168.1.111, the ip address of eth1 is 192.168.1.112, the box is currently behind a router 192.168.1.1, and that is behind the server i want to replace which also has two nics, internal one is 192.168.1.110, external one is 192.168.1.64, which is connected to the modem. all the subnet masks on all things are 255.255.255.0 |
| 13:39.27 | SerajewelKS | only .26 |
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| 13:39.31 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: make sure you are not using ide_generic ever anywhere ( vm is something else though ) |
| 13:39.40 | jelly | SerajewelKS: right, you said that |
| 13:39.44 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i shouldn't be on my other boxen, only sata drives |
| 13:39.48 | valdyn | jnewt8: thats a fucked up setup |
| 13:40.18 | valdyn | jnewt8: you want that 192.168.1.111 to be a router with firewall functionality |
| 13:40.19 | jnewt8 | valdyn: can you help me to un-fuck it |
| 13:40.21 | jelly | valdyn: perhaps he's doing bridging |
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| 13:40.30 | valdyn | jelly: hes trying |
| 13:40.39 | jelly | ah. |
| 13:40.56 | valdyn | transparent briding and firewall, i wouldnt do that, i cant really help you set that up |
| 13:41.08 | SerajewelKS | jelly, valdyn: full disclosure, on my desktop i have had a fuckingshitload of problems with 2.6.26 |
| 13:41.22 | SerajewelKS | but not on my laptop -- but still the fuse problems happen there too |
| 13:41.29 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: i think you have broken hardware, if you are lucky only due to bios settings |
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| 13:41.51 | valdyn | jnewt8: if you want to do this with a firewall on router setup, then i can help you |
| 13:41.55 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: hardware may be related but i am pretty sure 2.6.26 is a dud when it comes to support for my sata chipset |
| 13:41.55 | jelly | SerajewelKS: thankfully you're knowledgeable enough to use a different kernel! |
| 13:41.57 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i am trying to create the second picture in the wikipedia page on dmz. |
| 13:42.00 | toshiba510cdt | i have a booting problem on my ancient Pentium 133 MHz laptop running Lenny. can anyone help me? details are to be found on http://pastebin.ca/1350201 |
| 13:42.10 | toshiba510cdt | http://pastebin.ca/1350408 |
| 13:42.12 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: can it be set to ahci mode? |
| 13:42.28 | SerajewelKS | jelly: indeed. but since 2.6.26 is the default in lenny i have to carry self-built kernels around on my laptop for when i set up a new VM |
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| 13:42.33 | SerajewelKS | jelly: otherwise i can't use fuse |
| 13:42.39 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: the VM? or my bios? |
| 13:42.47 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: your bios |
| 13:43.02 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: and this is related to what peripheral? |
| 13:43.07 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: sata controllers should be in ahci mode whenever possible, sadly that is not the default |
| 13:43.08 | SerajewelKS | IIRC it is using ahci |
| 13:43.22 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i will make a note to check next time i reboot though |
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| 13:43.35 | AlexC_ | g'morning |
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| 13:43.43 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: once ide_generic has to be used this is like driving an ide disk in pio mode |
| 13:43.48 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: kills performance |
| 13:44.05 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: my host OS right now is xp anyway |
| 13:44.09 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to add some ip routes in, I am always getting errors similar to 'SIOCADDRT: No such process" |
| 13:44.11 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: and appearantly interactiveness too |
| 13:44.19 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: same for xp |
| 13:44.26 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: i bet anyway |
| 13:44.26 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: but the problems with 2.6.26 are more deep-seated than just performance |
| 13:44.42 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: i have a month uptime on this on, its working perfectly |
| 13:44.52 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i'm talking a complete lockup of the sata driver, to where processes enter uninterruptible sleep whenever they do a read that can't be satisfied by the I/O cache |
| 13:45.04 | my007ms | any one help pleas in install vmware-server-2 in lenny ? |
| 13:45.10 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: which is everything, sooner or later. 2.6.28 works smooth as butter. |
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| 13:45.17 | nick4 | I am trying to get Pidgin on Lenny with apt-pinning like this: apt-get install -t unstable pidgin -- But all I get is 2.4.2 which the version of Lenny. What am I doing wrong? |
| 13:45.21 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: so it may be a hardware issue, but kernel behavior is definitely related |
| 13:45.29 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: probable, i dont know when this starvation issue was fixed |
| 13:45.36 | my007ms | every time i try install vmware-server in lenny i get error say Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "4.1.3", while you are trying to use |
| 13:45.36 | my007ms | "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.3.2". This configuration is not recommended and |
| 13:45.36 | my007ms | VMware Server may crash if you'll continue. |
| 13:45.37 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: either way, i have the fuse problems wherever i use 2.6.26 |
| 13:45.45 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: but its a cfq issue, not a driver issue |
| 13:45.58 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: only other issues i have with 2.6.26 are the usual linux fuckups when it comes to hibernate on my laptop |
| 13:46.00 | sepult | acpi tbutils-0217 warning incorrect checksum in table oemb -b9 should be ac, and iomem range 0xfed20000 - 0xfed8ffff has been reserved <- are those dangerous ? |
| 13:46.04 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: which one? |
| 13:46.06 | my007ms | can i downgrade my gcc ? |
| 13:46.20 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: the freezes on my desktop not related to fuse? |
| 13:46.22 | jnewt8 | valdyn: I think that waht i want (picture two on the wiki article) is what you say (firewall with routing functionality) however, in that picture, i think that their "router" will by my "modem" |
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| 13:46.29 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: writes starving reads completely |
| 13:46.51 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i don't know if it is a cfg issue, but i know i tried just about every bios setting and some kernel options too |
| 13:46.55 | valdyn | jnewt8: you have 2 routers |
| 13:47.01 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: the *only* thing that fixed it was upgrading to 2.6.28 |
| 13:47.06 | valdyn | jnewt8: one of your routers is the firewall debian box, the other is the modem |
| 13:47.07 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: or sticking with 2.6.24 |
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| 13:47.20 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: .25 and .26 had I/O starvation weirdness no matter what my bios settings |
| 13:47.41 | abrotman | !tell nick4 about ssb |
| 13:47.42 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: ok, now i filled my disk completely, that wasnt nice |
| 13:47.42 | jnewt8 | valdyn: well then i will have 3, b/c the second firewall protecting the lan will be a router as well, right? |
| 13:47.46 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: but nothing broke |
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| 13:47.50 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: haha |
| 13:48.03 | jelly | toshiba510cdt: tried booting with acpi=off and other boot options for broken bioses? |
| 13:48.04 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: note that sshfs was targetting another box entirely |
| 13:48.10 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: (not loopback, obviously) |
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| 13:48.24 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: it was the box running sshfs that breaks. in case that wasn't clear already. |
| 13:48.26 | valdyn | jnewt8: are you sure your requirements make this excessive resource usage necessary? |
| 13:48.28 | nick4 | abrotman the bot is not sending me the message apo ssb, can I find it in some link? |
| 13:48.41 | abrotman | !ssb |
| 13:48.41 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
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| 13:48.51 | nick4 | abrotman got it :) |
| 13:49.15 | jnewt8 | valdyn: no |
| 13:49.43 | valdyn | jnewt8: one box can firewall as many different networks as you can put nics into it (-1) |
| 13:49.45 | toshiba510cdt | <jelly>tried booting with acpi=off and it did not solve my problem. did you have a look at my pastebin postings? |
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| 13:50.36 | kamp2tux | "Software Source->Download From: Other->Select Best Server" compare to apt-spy ---- is there a different ? |
| 13:50.50 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: anyway, 2.6.28 has been serving my desktop well. not so much my laptop, but ehh, it's a laptop. |
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| 13:51.22 | jelly | toshiba510cdt: oh, I missed the dmesg one. |
| 13:51.38 | toshiba510cdt | read it plz |
| 13:51.44 | jelly | toshiba510cdt: I see you already have a crapload of boot options |
| 13:52.04 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: yea, was clear, i did my rsync that way 2.6.28.5 as fileserver -> 2.6.26-1-686 using sshfs |
| 13:52.40 | toshiba510cdt | <jelly> i need them boot options, right? |
| 13:52.45 | Phlogi | anyone has an idea why I'm suddenly unable to connect to my host from outside (internet)? I forwarded and openened the ports on the router... nmap shows it correctly... |
| 13:52.53 | Phlogi | inside my local network all services are working |
| 13:53.02 | jelly | toshiba510cdt: you could start removing them one by one |
| 13:53.02 | Phlogi | but I'm unable to establish any connection from outside |
| 13:53.11 | valdyn | Phlogi: nmap running where? |
| 13:53.18 | Phlogi | valdyn: from outside |
| 13:53.22 | Phlogi | on a remote host |
| 13:53.32 | Phlogi | however it says state: filtered |
| 13:53.45 | jelly | [ 0.088500] Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. # wow, that takes me back to the nineties |
| 13:53.53 | valdyn | Phlogi: that means its not properly forwarded |
| 13:54.11 | Phlogi | hmm valdyn ok |
| 13:54.21 | Phlogi | I have no idea why it worked properly until now then |
| 13:54.31 | valdyn | Phlogi: changed ip address? |
| 13:54.38 | Phlogi | valdyn: hmm not really |
| 13:54.42 | valdyn | Phlogi: you dont always get the same with default dhcp |
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| 13:54.44 | Phlogi | why do you mean? |
| 13:54.56 | Phlogi | valdyn: I use dyndns and the ip is correct |
| 13:54.58 | toshiba510cdt | <jelly> remember it is a Pentium 133 Mhz laptop which is almost 13 years old |
| 13:55.08 | valdyn | Phlogi: dyndns has nothign to do with your local ip |
| 13:55.23 | valdyn | Phlogi: im referring to the local ip you are forwarding to |
| 13:55.36 | Phlogi | the local IP is the same |
| 13:55.38 | Phlogi | that has not changed |
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| 13:56.04 | Phlogi | maybe I need to restart that router |
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| 13:56.24 | valdyn | Phlogi: you never know, those trouters are trash typically |
| 13:56.33 | Phlogi | valdyn: definately |
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| 13:56.48 | Phlogi | later, thanks |
| 13:57.04 | jelly | toshiba510cdt: it could be unrelated, but your audio card driver crashes. |
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| 13:59.29 | DanielLestat | can i have gpg encrypted keyfiles with cryptsetup/luks at boot time? |
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| 13:59.41 | DanielLestat | -> two factor authentication |
| 13:59.56 | DeSian | srry :) how can update xorg.conf without reboot? |
| 14:00.08 | DanielLestat | ctrl-alt-backspace ;) |
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| 14:01.11 | _Phlogi | valdyn: that really fixed it :) |
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| 14:02.32 | jelly | toshiba510cdt: since the driver crashes trying to use pnpbios, I guess you could try pnpbios=off as well :-) |
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| 14:02.47 | AlexC_ | I'm having a hell of a time with kernel routes, I'm constantly getting errors such as "SIOCADDRT: File Exists", "SIOCADDRT: No such process" or "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" ... all of which are crap error messages |
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| 14:03.10 | kindyroot | is there any free data recovery utility out there? |
| 14:03.27 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:04.18 | petemc | http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/disk_grep.html |
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| 14:05.08 | kindyroot | thanks a lot |
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| 14:07.48 | jnewt8 | valdyn: maybe i let you take a stab at the best topology. i have a few older computers (3) (p3-p4) here. i have a wireless router, i have a 4 port switch, and i have my windows server. i need access to the accounting database on the windows server from outside. i need wireless for the lan only. i need a and an svn server (alread on a debian box running apache), but no one can use it unless in the office. i want two of those older computers inside the lan, |
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| 14:12.35 | sjokkis | hay. how can i use aptitude to downgrade from unstable to testing? |
| 14:13.01 | abrotman | cam |
| 14:13.03 | abrotman | can't |
| 14:13.14 | sjokkis | gotta use apt-get? |
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| 14:13.51 | abrotman | downgrade not supported |
| 14:13.54 | et | !downgrade |
| 14:13.55 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
| 14:14.21 | sjokkis | aw :( |
| 14:14.25 | sjokkis | but unstable is so unstable |
| 14:14.31 | sjokkis | i just upgraded and pulseaudio is broken |
| 14:14.51 | ska_ | For some reason my stock kernel will identify and create the udev device for the cdrom, but my custom kernel won't. All the scsi disks load ok, but not the cdrom. |
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| 14:15.07 | sjokkis | ska_: did you ask in #kernel? |
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| 14:15.20 | ehazlett | anyone built a fedora xen guest under debian 5 xen? |
| 14:15.29 | ska_ | This is for Lenny.. not yet.. I will thought if you think that will help. |
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| 14:17.27 | valdyn | jnewt8: one subnetwork: 3 old computers, one or more subnetworks for windows server and svn server |
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| 14:18.09 | valdyn | jnewt8: that makes 1 dedicated debian router connecting all networks and routing to and from the internet |
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| 14:18.46 | jnewt8 | valdyn: where would you put the wireless router? |
| 14:19.22 | valdyn | jnewt8: into the same subnetwork as the 3 old computers |
| 14:19.37 | hopecon | For a modern machine with onboard audio, is pulseaudio the recommended sound layer? |
| 14:19.59 | hopecon | I'm having a lot of performance issues with it (that and there's no sound in iceweasel) |
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| 14:20.23 | valdyn | jnewt8: im not clear what the wlan router can do or should do |
| 14:20.28 | jnewt8 | ok, so now i use it to split the wired part for the three old computers (it has 4 wired ports too) and it now looks like pic two in the wiki article for dmz right? |
| 14:21.01 | jnewt8 | valdyn: it can run linux! tomato i think it is called. |
| 14:21.24 | valdyn | jnewt8: is wlan accessing the old pcs? |
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| 14:22.33 | jnewt8 | valdyn: right now it splits after the win server to the file servers (old pcs) and provides the wireless access for the laptops |
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| 14:22.41 | MegafEee | hi all, i need a distro for an old computer, Pentium 233Mhz, 32MB of RAM, i would like to use that computer to get my wifi connection and share via Ethernet to other computers, |
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| 14:22.54 | valdyn | jnewt8: i didnt get your link i think, to your picture |
| 14:23.00 | MegafEee | would Debian run in that computer? |
| 14:23.13 | leOn | fellas, is there any way to do a sorted list, by size, of all installed packages? |
| 14:23.20 | nonattached | MegafEee, damnsmalllinux or puppy linux? |
| 14:23.32 | jnewt8 | valdyn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demilitarized_zone_(computing) |
| 14:23.36 | nonattached | debian would run i think |
| 14:23.44 | nonattached | but strip it down |
| 14:23.58 | MegafEee | cos i already have a lot of experience with Debian |
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| 14:24.24 | valdyn | jnewt8: you are abusing wikipedia to make your network drawing? |
| 14:24.26 | jelly | MegafEee: would it work, maybe. Would it install? Not really. |
| 14:24.30 | valdyn | jnewt8: i cant see any pictuer there though |
| 14:24.42 | MegafEee | hm |
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| 14:25.00 | MegafEee | maybe ill have to use my celeron 900 instead |
| 14:25.02 | gianni` | hello |
| 14:25.04 | jelly | MegafEee: if you place the hard disk into a machine with more RAM (say, at least 128MB), the installation would take much less time |
| 14:25.20 | MegafEee | jelly, i got 64MB |
| 14:25.33 | nonattached | if money is not a factor, i recommend using an ALIX board |
| 14:25.37 | nonattached | thats what i made |
| 14:25.43 | jelly | MegafEee: expect it to take hours and lots of swapping _if_ it succeeds at all |
| 14:25.48 | nonattached | noiseless embedded x86 |
| 14:26.04 | gianni` | `> Im a new debian user, I've installed it since 4-5 days, however, i keep getting this messages in my terminal: " kernel:[ 8500.302683] do_IRQ: 0.91 No irq handler for vector " --- and the computer makes a strange bip everytime; |
| 14:26.19 | MegafEee | jelly, ok, so i will use an AMD Duron at 900Mhz with 128Mb instead |
| 14:26.32 | nonattached | voyage linux is a stripped down version of debian/lenny for ALIX |
| 14:26.43 | MegafEee | im only a bit worried about power consumption |
| 14:27.03 | AlexC_ | I've got some issues with the "NetXtreme BCM5754M" network card, it quite simply "isn't working". 2 network cards (one onboard) and this, the onboard one works perfectly and I can connect to tinternet, swapping over to the NetExtreme one and I can't connect to the internet (or the router to be precise). I have the 'tg3' module loaded, what could be causing this? It's driving me mad |
| 14:27.20 | adb | installed/run lenny on @120 MHz + 196 MB ram |
| 14:27.59 | jnewt8 | valdyn: what? i am giving you an example of what i wan to do. the second pic at the bottom is what i think it should look like when done. |
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| 14:28.34 | jnewt8 | valdyn: i don't condone abuse of any kind. |
| 14:29.12 | valdyn | jnewt8: and your internal network gets to be 3 old pc + wlan stuff |
| 14:29.18 | valdyn | jnewt8: again in seperate networks |
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| 14:31.34 | valdyn | jnewt8: say: wlan: 192.168.1.0, 3 old pc 192.168.2.0, wlan router firewalling and routing both, dmz at 192.168.3.0, debian router can be member of any of these and also connects to internet |
| 14:31.55 | AlexC_ | how can I track down the reason as to why a network card is not functioning? |
| 14:32.09 | ringo999 | if i want new files in a folder have exactly the same user/group rights of the folder they are created in, what is the sticky bit I need to add? chmod g+s? |
| 14:32.34 | valdyn | jnewt8: thats understandable? |
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| 14:33.46 | jnewt8 | valdyn: processing... |
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| 14:33.59 | chnapsy | hello |
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| 14:36.30 | valdyn | jnewt8: this picture is mislading in that you dont see one computer that is responsible for routing to the dmz |
| 14:36.49 | valdyn | jnewt8: this needs to be one of your two routers |
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| 14:37.53 | jnewt8 | valdyn: isn't the front one responsible for that, i see it as having 3 nics, one goes to the second "router", the other to the dmz. |
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| 14:38.08 | valdyn | jnewt8: thats just one way |
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| 14:39.05 | valdyn | jnewt8: say your networks physical topology fits that, do that |
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| 14:40.14 | gianni` | anyone? |
| 14:40.20 | jnewt8 | ok, i am following now, and it does, b/c i can put three in the debian server i am working on right now. i have an extra for it. why put the wlan on a separate subnet though? |
| 14:40.29 | MegafEee | thanks all, im going then |
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| 14:40.46 | valdyn | jnewt8: makes shielding between the 2 easier |
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| 14:41.09 | valdyn | jnewt8: its not needed, but as you have a capable router connecting them its not really any effort to do it |
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| 14:43.47 | gianni` | `> Im a new debian user, I've installed it since 4-5 days, however, i keep getting this messages in my terminal: " kernel:[ 8500.302683] do_IRQ: 0.91 No irq handler for vector " --- and the computer makes a strange bip everytime; |
| 14:44.26 | valdyn | gianni`: have you googled the error? |
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| 14:44.46 | gianni` | valdyn: ya |
| 14:44.51 | gianni` | i didn`t find so much |
| 14:45.12 | valdyn | gianni`: i think i only found your error message |
| 14:45.17 | valdyn | gianni`: Danxor ? |
| 14:45.22 | gianni` | yep |
| 14:45.50 | valdyn | gianni`: i cant help you, you can remove hardware till the error shuts up, if that is possible |
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| 14:46.01 | valdyn | gianni`: you can also just try a different kernel |
| 14:46.11 | gianni` | valdyn: i see |
| 14:46.32 | gianni` | valdyn: do you think it is a problem related to the kernel? |
| 14:46.42 | ringo999 | creating a file in a folder, i want it to have exactly the group rights/owner as its parents folder. how to do? |
| 14:46.44 | slavsun | could anyone help with Emdebian grip ? |
| 14:46.45 | ringo999 | chmod g+s will preserve the owner, but reset the rights to read-only |
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| 14:46.52 | valdyn | gianni`: that or hardware |
| 14:46.56 | valdyn | gianni`: theres nothing else |
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| 14:47.05 | gianni` | valdyn: i see |
| 14:47.07 | ringo999 | chmod g+s will perserve the group i meant |
| 14:47.23 | sshc | I accidentally deleted /bin/rm |
| 14:47.28 | sshc | how do I get it back? |
| 14:47.37 | jelly | ringo999: you can't, the newly created file permissions will always depend on invoker's umask setting |
| 14:47.49 | valdyn | gianni`: its a driver bug or a hardware bug not worked around by your kernel |
| 14:47.58 | jelly | sshc: aptitude reinstall coreutils |
| 14:48.05 | valdyn | gianni`: get a new kernel and pray, like the debian kernel from sid |
| 14:48.15 | sshc | thanks jelly |
| 14:48.22 | gianni` | valdyn: could it be because of the video-driver i installed yesterday maybe? |
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| 14:48.59 | gianni` | and btw, someone suggested me to add: "acpi=noirq" to /boot/grub/menu.lst, im not sure if that would change anything anyway |
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| 14:49.01 | jelly | gianni`: a non-free driver? Quite possible. |
| 14:49.01 | valdyn | gianni`: thats just guessing, its not really useful |
| 14:49.13 | valdyn | gianni`: thats also just guessing |
| 14:49.29 | gianni` | i see, i just got it from nvidia.com |
| 14:49.44 | SURFkees | When making a debian package, what would be the best way to just copy the files into a certain directory without any fuss? |
| 14:49.50 | gianni` | but i think i`ve seen this error even before i installed it |
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| 14:50.58 | slavsun | does anyone work with emdebian ? |
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| 14:52.10 | valdyn | gianni`: this is a very specific kernel thing, i cannot debug it, some kernel hacker can maybe, so best advice you will get here is to change kernel / drivers |
| 14:52.11 | slavsun | or could anyone suggest how to make iso from debootstrap? |
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| 14:53.21 | gianni` | valdyn: i see |
| 14:53.32 | adb | slavsun: bootcd ? |
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| 14:53.39 | yang2 | I appologise for the paste, I am wondering which context must eth0 have, its associated to pppoe |
| 14:53.39 | damiano | hello everybody |
| 14:53.44 | yang2 | auto dsl-provider |
| 14:53.44 | yang2 | iface dsl-provider inet ppp |
| 14:53.44 | yang2 | pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf |
| 14:53.44 | yang2 | provider dsl-provider |
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| 14:54.32 | adb | tell yang2 about paste |
| 14:54.38 | damiano | i have one problem with nvidia driver...my kernel 2.6.26-1-686-bigmem is seen as XEN but is not XEN Kernel!! |
| 14:54.40 | yang2 | yes, i can paste into #flood |
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| 14:54.44 | damiano | how to fix this problem? |
| 14:54.55 | slavsun | adb, I have to make a distro with emdebian grip using debootstrap, then to make ISO from it, burn it and use the iso to install this distro to the hardware |
| 14:55.15 | yang2 | If I have iface eth0 inet ppp then it fails to come up |
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| 14:55.28 | abrotman | damiano: yes, it is, and don't install nvidia from the nvidia website |
| 14:55.50 | damiano | shit |
| 14:55.52 | damiano | i done it |
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| 14:55.59 | damiano | mmm ok i will remove it |
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| 14:56.05 | yang2 | adb: are you able to chek in #flood |
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| 14:56.19 | ringo999 | jelly: so how do you do when different users deploy to a server? |
| 14:56.22 | adb | i dunno |
| 14:56.34 | SQlvpapir | extract-cache-subset is a cleaver feature :D |
| 14:56.36 | damiano | abrotman: nvidia driver are no good? (if i get on the website) |
| 14:56.36 | damiano | ? |
| 14:56.44 | abrotman | don't use those |
| 14:56.50 | abrotman | !tell damiano about nvidia m-a |
| 14:56.51 | yang2 | Who could help me set the right values for eth0...? |
| 14:57.05 | jelly | ringo999: make sure they use correct umask :-) |
| 14:57.12 | damiano | ok, perfect |
| 14:57.28 | ringo999 | jelly: whats umask ;-) |
| 14:57.34 | damiano | abrotman: but those are updatetd? |
| 14:57.40 | gianni` | valdyn: which kernel should i install? |
| 14:58.00 | jelly | !tell ringo999 -about umask |
| 14:58.05 | abrotman | damiano: no idea .. i avoid nvidia junk |
| 14:58.06 | jelly | !tell ringo999 -about permissions |
| 14:58.11 | esundin | So I'm trying to get apache to work with cgi anywhere, but I get a 403 when trying to access a cgi script in / my sites-enabled/000-default looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m50124c74. how should this be done? |
| 14:58.17 | abrotman | damiano: but using the nvidia .run will cause problems for you in the future |
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| 14:58.36 | _abc_ | hello |
| 14:58.43 | yang2 | adb: you see? |
| 14:58.56 | adb | no |
| 14:58.59 | yang2 | I wonder which values must now stay for eth0 |
| 14:59.06 | yang2 | check #flood please |
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| 14:59.18 | _abc_ | has anyone here got the latest flash-10 player going on etch ? is there a way to upgrade to glibc-2.4 on etch ? |
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| 14:59.41 | _abc_ | yang2: what is #flood? |
| 14:59.41 | yang2 | if I setup static ip address for eth0 then it makes an extra route |
| 14:59.41 | valdyn | _abc_: why are you using etch on a desktop? |
| 14:59.51 | abrotman | _abc_: it won't work on etch .. |
| 14:59.55 | _abc_ | valdyn: stuck with it on a laptop, too much stuff to upgrade now |
| 14:59.56 | valdyn | _abc_: or why arent you upgrading to lenny? |
| 14:59.59 | adb | yang2: [15:56:22 ] <adb> i dunno |
| 14:59.59 | yang2 | adb: #flood |
| 14:59.59 | damiano | abrotman: HOw to know if those driver are updated? |
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| 15:00.41 | abrotman | damiano: look at them ? |
| 15:00.50 | _abc_ | wtf is #flood for |
| 15:00.59 | SQlvpapir | valdyn: reboot made no effect on mounting ntfs devices through gnome.. will do a bit of research again.. suggestions welcome, but dont waste ur time :) |
| 15:01.00 | idimmu | tsunamis |
| 15:01.00 | damiano | on the debian webiste? |
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| 15:02.09 | gps23 | hi |
| 15:02.25 | gps23 | how can i find out which font is my xterm currently using? |
| 15:03.03 | gps23 | i want to use the same font in .Xresources and just increase the size |
| 15:03.11 | damiano | abrotman: one question: how to know if are there any problems with my kernwl? |
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| 15:03.50 | ringo999 | jelly: ok i understand umask, but how do you set it up so it works for every user specifically in that folder only? |
| 15:03.55 | _abc_ | gps23: usually it has the font file open and you can find it using lsof, or use xresources/xrdb to get the info from the server |
| 15:04.10 | jelly | ringo999: no way that I know if. |
| 15:04.12 | jelly | of* |
| 15:07.03 | gps23 | _abc_, i saw lsof output, its showing truetype for both xterm and xfce-terminal even when both using different fonts, seems like truetype are being used by something else (may be xchat) |
| 15:08.11 | gps23 | _abc_, sorry, its not truetype but dejavu sans |
| 15:08.12 | gianni` | valdyn: i noticed that the terminal gives me this error usually when im doing something with Iceweasel |
| 15:08.17 | gianni` | opening it or switching windows |
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| 15:09.23 | _abc_ | gps23: normally when a font is/was in use its file remains open, unless it's a server font in which case you can get it from xresources |
| 15:09.35 | gianni` | i still keep getting this message: Message from syslogd@debian at Mar 13 16:07:18 ... |
| 15:09.35 | gianni` | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.52 | gianni` | does anyone else know how i could fix it? |
| 15:10.20 | _abc_ | gianni`: you must have unrecognized devices that do not have a driver |
| 15:10.29 | _abc_ | see lspci and lsusb |
| 15:10.36 | _abc_ | for unidentified devices |
| 15:10.42 | valdyn | geez |
| 15:10.53 | valdyn | usb devices dont get an extra irq |
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| 15:12.05 | valdyn | 0 is the timer, i wonder if that means what i think it does |
| 15:12.29 | gianni` | http://pastebin.com/m914aae2 < here |
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| 15:13.18 | valdyn | nm, its referring to cpu0 |
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| 15:13.32 | valdyn | gianni`: whats the output of "cat /proc/interrupts | grep 98" ? |
| 15:13.40 | valdyn | gianni`: whats the output of "cat /proc/interrupts | grep 91" ? |
| 15:13.42 | valdyn | damn typo |
| 15:13.48 | valdyn | gianni`: 2nd line.. |
| 15:13.56 | gianni` | valdyn: alright |
| 15:14.21 | gianni` | valdyn: i get no output |
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| 15:14.58 | gianni` | valdyn: shall i try only with cat /proc/interrupts? |
| 15:15.17 | valdyn | gianni`: no |
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| 15:15.48 | gianni` | valdyn: alright |
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| 15:16.44 | gps23 | _abc_, i have set .Xresources to fixed font, its the one |
| 15:16.48 | gps23 | _abc_, thanks |
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| 15:18.13 | valdyn | gianni`: is that an smp system? dual core? |
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| 15:18.28 | gianni` | valdyn: dual core yes |
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| 15:18.58 | valdyn | gianni`: still got 2 options then, switching apic off, but that switches the 2nd core off too |
| 15:19.06 | valdyn | gianni`: or upgrading the kernel as i already told you |
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| 15:19.23 | gianni` | valdyn: hmm =/ |
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| 15:19.54 | gianni` | valdyn: ok i see, how should i upgrade the kernel? |
| 15:20.02 | gianni` | i switched to debian 3 days ago.. lol |
| 15:20.10 | valdyn | gianni`: not difficult. |
| 15:20.12 | gianni` | im realyl a newbie :) |
| 15:20.23 | ethanol | AMSG FTW <3 |
| 15:20.24 | valdyn | gianni`: get the proper kernel image at http://packages.debian.org |
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| 15:20.48 | valdyn | gianni`: whats the output of uname -r ? |
| 15:21.07 | gianni` | valdyn: 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 15:21.32 | valdyn | !versions linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64 |
| 15:21.39 | valdyn | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64 |
| 15:21.40 | judd | valdyn: linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64 -- sid: 2.6.28-1 |
| 15:21.47 | ringo999 | several developers using ant, deploying with their own user. how to set the owser/access settings of the deployed files so the users don't block each other? |
| 15:21.52 | ringo999 | should the user be part of a deployment group and then use umask with chmod g+s? |
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| 15:22.11 | valdyn | gianni`: thats it, that package linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64, get the .deb file, install it using "dpkg -i file.deb" |
| 15:22.36 | esundin | So I'm trying to get apache to work with cgi anywhere, but I get a 403 when trying to access a cgi script in / the error is: Options ExecCGI is off i://192.168.0.132/ my sites-enabled/000-default looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m50124c74. how should this be done? |
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| 15:22.43 | valdyn | ringo999: why arent you use a version control system? |
| 15:22.47 | gianni` | valdyn: i see |
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| 15:23.44 | gianni` | valdyn: unstable right |
| 15:23.49 | valdyn | gianni`: yes |
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| 15:26.26 | valdyn | esundin: are you sure that you can use multiple Options lines? |
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| 15:28.05 | AndrewMohawk | !override |
| 15:28.10 | gianni` | valdyn: linux-image-2.6.28-1-amd64_2.6.28-1_amd64.deb , this is fine, right |
| 15:28.31 | valdyn | gianni`: yes |
| 15:28.35 | gianni` | or shall i take the i386 one? |
| 15:28.41 | valdyn | gianni`: no |
| 15:28.58 | gianni` | valdyn: ok, cause im using an intel |
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| 15:29.13 | valdyn | gianni`: thats ok |
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| 15:29.31 | abrotman | AndrewMohawk: do you need help? |
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| 15:30.20 | esundin | valdyn: hmm... I better try with just one then... |
| 15:30.24 | AndrewMohawk | yeah, im having problems with my trivial repo, i have a .debs in a few directories and i have made the Packages.gz with dpkg-scanpackages and for some reason i cant install two of the packages one after the other |
| 15:30.29 | gianni` | valdyn: ok thanks |
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| 15:30.44 | AndrewMohawk | i get "trying to overwrite `/Packages.gz', which is also in package" |
| 15:30.48 | AndrewMohawk | any idea abrotman? |
| 15:30.57 | AndrewMohawk | im also curious as to what the "override" does |
| 15:31.04 | abrotman | !tell AndrewMohawk about overwrite |
| 15:31.15 | abrotman | but Packages.gz probably shouldn't be in a package itself |
| 15:31.33 | edison-04 | Help witch tools is best to redo the mbr with existing partition geometry in linux ? |
| 15:31.43 | AndrewMohawk | omw.. i can just use --force-overide and all my problems go away ;_; |
| 15:32.01 | AndrewMohawk | abrotman: well ive .htaccessed each of the directories to various users |
| 15:32.03 | valdyn | AndrewMohawk: write is not the same as ride |
| 15:32.17 | AndrewMohawk | overwrite* |
| 15:32.28 | valdyn | AndrewMohawk: one of your packages seems to contain a file named Packages.gz |
| 15:32.36 | valdyn | AndrewMohawk: does that make sense at all? |
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| 15:33.18 | cbkm` | Hi all, just a quick question that I can't seem to solve with Google ;) I was wondering if it's possible to get an old version of a package, specifically the linux-source package for 2.6.18.dfsg.1-17? |
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| 15:33.34 | abrotman | cbkm`: not likely anymore .. we used to have snapshot.debian.net |
| 15:34.01 | esundin | valdyn: Same error... (I just removed the first options line and added +ExecCGI to the second one...) |
| 15:34.02 | abrotman | cbkm`: if you can find out if it wsa ever on a CD/DVD, you could get the old images and get it that way |
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| 15:35.52 | icebrain | hi, I'm trying to compile cpplua using qmake and it tells me "QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced." I tried setting it to "linux-g++" but he replies that he couldn't find it in "/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs" (which isn't there). I have qt4-dev-tools installed, what should I do? |
| 15:35.53 | cbkm` | abrotman: Hm, good idea. I shall dig around! I just have a NAS box that comes with that kernel version and I'm wondering if I can play snap with the kernel versions and compile modules for it. (Already got the config from /boot) |
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| 15:37.25 | Rienzilla | Hi, where would one put images of running virtual machines on a host server, according to FHS? in /var or /srv? |
| 15:38.41 | petemc | probably srv, tho my xen instances all live on lvm |
| 15:38.54 | kamp2tux | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=215599#215599 |
| 15:39.20 | cbkm` | abrotman: Actually, it does appear to be on snapshot.debian - thanks alot! :) |
| 15:39.21 | Rienzilla | mine are going to live on an lvm as well, but the question is where to mount it :) |
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| 15:39.29 | petemc | Rienzilla: mount it? |
| 15:39.38 | Rienzilla | yes? |
| 15:40.05 | petemc | you dont need to, with xen at leats |
| 15:40.16 | petemc | s/ts/st/ |
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| 15:40.43 | Rienzilla | well i'll put them in /srv, according to the docs that would make sense |
| 15:41.07 | petemc | what virtualization are you using that needs the images mounted? |
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| 15:42.32 | Rienzilla | I dont need the images mounted |
| 15:42.39 | Rienzilla | I need the filesystem where the images reside mounted |
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| 15:42.44 | petemc | why? |
| 15:42.55 | Rienzilla | how else is qemu going to find them? :) |
| 15:43.11 | valdyn | ringo999: by their path |
| 15:43.14 | valdyn | ringo999: ops |
| 15:43.21 | Rienzilla | yes |
| 15:43.23 | sparr | during a broken dist-upgrade, the acrobat plugin preconfiguration (license prompt) appears every failed attempt. is there nowhere closer to the installation of the package that that could happen? |
| 15:43.24 | valdyn | Rienzilla: by their path |
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| 15:43.28 | petemc | with xen, i point it at /dev/mapper/foo |
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| 15:43.44 | Rienzilla | petemc: oh ok, yes I guess that's possible |
| 15:43.49 | valdyn | same with qemu |
| 15:43.49 | Rienzilla | I don't know if qemu/kvm can do that |
| 15:43.54 | valdyn | mounting is pointless |
| 15:43.58 | valdyn | or its stupid even |
| 15:44.02 | petemc | and a bad idea, i would have t6hought |
| 15:44.06 | Rienzilla | why? |
| 15:44.16 | jelly | has images files for vmware. |
| 15:44.17 | Rienzilla | I now have simple image files which I use |
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| 15:44.27 | jelly | Rienzilla: and migrate/copy easily |
| 15:44.28 | Rienzilla | which can be easily nacked up, moved around, etc when needed |
| 15:44.39 | valdyn | Rienzilla: mounting those image files would be stupid |
| 15:44.47 | Rienzilla | I don't mount the image files :) |
| 15:44.51 | Rienzilla | I just need to put them somewhere :) |
| 15:44.53 | valdyn | Rienzilla: alright then |
| 15:44.57 | hark | sparr: the acrobat plugin is not in debian |
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| 15:45.14 | Rienzilla | and am looking for the sensible place to put them inside the FHS filesystem hierarchy |
| 15:45.35 | AndrewMohawk | valdyn: thank you, i am an idiot. i was creating the .debs before the .gz's |
| 15:45.36 | valdyn | Rienzilla: home of the user running the vm |
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| 15:45.42 | valdyn | Rienzilla: doesnt need to be root |
| 15:45.53 | jelly | valdyn: ew. |
| 15:46.06 | valdyn | jelly: hmm? |
| 15:46.08 | arcnewuss | how do i unload reload a wireless card module |
| 15:46.08 | sparr | hark: no, but there exist debian packages for it, with which I would wager the majority of the channel are familiar. My question is more about apt and dpkg than about acrobat. |
| 15:46.10 | petemc | i still contend you dont need to put them anywhere |
| 15:46.15 | jelly | valdyn: /srv/qemu would be nicer |
| 15:46.22 | hark | sparr: try to get rid of that package, upgrade and then install if needed |
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| 15:46.43 | chomwitt | my usb flash memory isnt recognized automatically in my lenny gnome laptop. I can mount it in CLI and use it but cant see a flash mem icon in my computer. Where should i look? |
| 15:46.47 | valdyn | jelly: i dont think so, but whatever |
| 15:47.08 | Rienzilla | agrees with jelly |
| 15:47.11 | valdyn | jelly: can do both too |
| 15:47.12 | sparr | let us say, for the sake of discussion, that a similar package has many dependencies, so removing it is a less than ideal option. im interested in possible improvements to the pre/install/post configuration |
| 15:47.24 | Rienzilla | I have machines where they are in user homedirs, but that just doesn't seem right :) |
| 15:47.36 | arcnewuss | and how do i know which module runs my wireless card |
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| 15:47.53 | valdyn | arcnewuss: thats in /sys |
| 15:48.04 | valdyn | arcnewuss: dont ask me where, id have to use find |
| 15:48.07 | jelly | sparr: remove the package and install it later? |
| 15:48.15 | quicken2k | Anyway to get a bigger mouse pointer? |
| 15:48.17 | hark | arcnewuss: try lspci -v |
| 15:48.40 | sparr | jelly: dist-upgrade is going to freak out if a package with dependencies has been removed |
| 15:48.56 | jelly | sparr: if you find a similar package with broken preinst, file a RC bug on it |
| 15:48.57 | DavidProck1981 | does the live cd of debian 5 have an install option |
| 15:48.59 | valdyn | chomwitt: is gnome-volume-manager installed and configured to mount automatically? |
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| 15:49.23 | sparr | its not that it is broken |
| 15:49.25 | wpgmb | Had a curious experience yesterday... Have been trying to replace FC10 with Lenny on a dual boot laptop (one drive) that ran WinXP / FC10. I tried installing using netinstall and CD-1. Both gave me problems in the manual partitioning part of the setup. First - I would not allow past three primary and one logical partition - the remainder was marked "unusable". I tried different ways to correct that, including going into rescue mode and |
| 15:49.26 | sparr | its just very annoying |
| 15:49.53 | jelly | sparr: if it asks for the same thing multiple times and fails to install, I'll call it bloody broken. |
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| 15:50.11 | Danxor | valdyn: i done it (its gianni` here) |
| 15:50.24 | sparr | other things fail to install, before it. the annoyance is that preinst for everything comes before installing anything |
| 15:50.26 | valdyn | Danxor: and? result? |
| 15:50.42 | chomwitt | valdyn: i dont know. but my system used to 'see' flash usb. but i'll check your tip. |
| 15:50.44 | Danxor | valdyn: i tried with: uname -a |
| 15:50.46 | jelly | sparr: so configure/fix only the failing things first |
| 15:50.51 | Danxor | it still give me the same type of kernel |
| 15:50.59 | arcnewuss | from lspci i get that my card uses iwlagn but lsmod says iwlagn is used by 0 is this normal |
| 15:51.02 | valdyn | Danxor: you need to reboot |
| 15:51.07 | sparr | jelly: how do i not-configure a package that is part of the upgrade after ive started it? |
| 15:51.09 | Danxor | valdyn: ah, ok brb |
| 15:51.29 | jelly | sparr: java packages manage to ask the license question only once and save the answer. |
| 15:51.46 | sparr | i shall investigate how they do that, thanks |
| 15:52.07 | jelly | sparr: when the upgrade breaks, use dpkg to fix (or remove) a broken package |
| 15:52.10 | themill | sparr: it's a debconf question |
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| 15:52.17 | DavidProck1981 | wow microsoft is still down !!! victory i have struck !!! linux wins |
| 15:52.27 | valdyn | DavidProck1981: thats just you |
| 15:53.15 | DavidProck1981 | do u have it cached so u can view it if its off line |
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| 15:53.29 | valdyn | DavidProck1981: no |
| 15:53.34 | arcnewuss | is it normal that the module of my wireless card is used by 0 when i lsmod |
| 15:53.35 | DavidProck1981 | do a ping www.microsoft.com |
| 15:53.53 | valdyn | DavidProck1981: answering echo requests is not required to serve web pages |
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| 15:54.20 | leOn | DavidProck1981: ever tried to ping a windows xp machine with firewall turned on? |
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| 15:54.31 | valdyn | DavidProck1981: and microsoft has been not replying to echo requests for a long time |
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| 15:54.32 | leOn | same deal |
| 15:54.38 | wpgmb | DavidProck1981: don't know about MS, but I know you won't be able to ping my IPCop firewall either... |
| 15:54.41 | buffoon_work | DavidProck1981, microsoft.com filters every port and doesn't answer to ICMP Packages, so it won't never respond to your ping requests |
| 15:55.05 | chomwitt | valdyn: should gnome-volume-manager run ? (i dont see it in ps -aux) |
| 15:55.23 | aurax | hi, i'm trying to disable default routes being received by dhcpd, i removed routers from dhclient.conf and still everything i request an ip address i get the default routes and dns info as well... any idea? |
| 15:55.24 | nodanoda | hi. i just installed lenny on my laptop, it has atheros ar5007, how to make it work? |
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| 15:56.05 | chomwitt | valdyn: gnome-volume-properties seems configured ok thought(as mem flash is conserned) |
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| 15:56.34 | valdyn | chomwitt: /usr/lib/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager should be running |
| 15:57.10 | chomwitt | valdyn: ok. thanks. i'll try ti fix it. |
| 15:57.26 | valdyn | chomwitt: it needs to be in gnome-session-properties |
| 15:57.29 | aurax | any idea? |
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| 15:58.39 | Danxor | valdyn: hello |
| 15:58.49 | valdyn | Danxor: so? |
| 15:58.50 | Danxor | valdyn: sorry but i had some problems to run X |
| 15:58.55 | DavidProck1981 | well im tring to goto microsoft.com on my mom's windows machine and it wont go there |
| 15:59.11 | Danxor | cause we upgraded the kernel i guess, and it couldnt find anymore nvidia |
| 15:59.18 | valdyn | Danxor: you have to reinstall the nvidia drivers |
| 15:59.25 | Danxor | valdyn: yes i thought so |
| 15:59.38 | Danxor | so i just putted `nv` instead of `nvidia` into xorg.conf |
| 15:59.46 | valdyn | Danxor: alright |
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| 15:59.57 | Danxor | valdyn: i believe it works normally now, no bips and no error messages |
| 16:00.10 | valdyn | Danxor: nice |
| 16:00.17 | Danxor | valdyn: thank you so much! |
| 16:00.25 | valdyn | Danxor: welcome |
| 16:00.32 | DavidProck1981 | woh that took a long time, well it was down the other day |
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| 16:00.57 | Danxor | valdyn: do you think it was because of the nvidia drivers? |
| 16:01.17 | valdyn | Danxor: no |
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| 16:01.50 | Danxor | valdyn: ok, kernel? |
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| 16:02.13 | valdyn | Danxor: yes, the smp code |
| 16:02.47 | valdyn | Danxor: specifically code sharing interrupts between your 2 cores |
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| 16:03.47 | Danxor | valdyn: i see, is it like a bug or it was just not working with my system |
| 16:03.52 | valdyn | Danxor: its very very rarely seen |
| 16:04.02 | valdyn | Danxor: you might still have the bug without it being triggered |
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| 16:05.15 | Danxor | valdyn: i see |
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| 16:06.32 | roe_ | can I send a pdf to a printer via cli? |
| 16:06.36 | roe_ | if so how? |
| 16:06.39 | Danxor | valdyn: can i just install the nvidia drivers right now? |
| 16:06.51 | batcoder-7 | talking about a bad day |
| 16:07.17 | axz | Hi there guys trying to upgrade my server remotely and getting follow error W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
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| 16:07.33 | axz | after doing aptitude update |
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| 16:08.18 | sylarrrr | is nonfree flash 10 available yet? |
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| 16:08.28 | themill | dpkg: tell sylarrrr about search |
| 16:08.56 | themill | dpkg: tell axz about lenny upgrade key |
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| 16:09.36 | themill | axz: err... that should be "etch->lenny key" |
| 16:10.03 | et | i somehow read that as etch->kenny |
| 16:10.08 | axz | themill, oke nothing apparent ? |
| 16:10.26 | themill | dpkg: tell axz about etch->lenny key |
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| 16:10.30 | esundin | So I'm trying to get apache to work with cgi anywhere, but I get a 403 when trying to access a cgi script in / the error is: Options ExecCGI is off i://192.168.0.132/ my sites-enabled/000-default looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m375da7d3. how should this be done? |
| 16:10.33 | axz | thanks |
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| 16:11.50 | arcnewuss | my wireless card can connect only once after loading its module: iwlagn |
| 16:12.25 | arcnewuss | if i ifdown wlan0 then it cant be brought back up unless i reload the module |
| 16:12.33 | daggett | hi all |
| 16:13.00 | arcnewuss | why do i need to reload the module to be able bring back up my wireless card |
| 16:13.11 | nodanoda | join #fedora |
| 16:13.22 | amphi | I will not |
| 16:13.27 | nodanoda | sorry |
| 16:13.37 | nodanoda | typo |
| 16:13.42 | sylarrrr | I see latest version is 9 |
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| 16:13.49 | sylarrrr | :( |
| 16:13.56 | amphi | nodanoda: ;) |
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| 16:14.48 | sylarrrr | say , I upgraded to lenny, and now my epiphany extensions doesn't work, and also the flashblock that I put on it |
| 16:14.56 | JyZyXEL | lol i ran the "update-flashplugin-nonfree" and now when i try load up a flash in iceweasel it crashes |
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| 16:15.58 | themill | tries to work out where "lol" fits into that statement |
| 16:16.09 | sepisultrum | Hi. I have a thinkpad x41 tablet with a intel 2915ABG wifi card. It works quite well but is called eth0 instead of wlan0 and it does not have a /sys/class/net/wlan0/wireless/link file. How can I make this file appear? |
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| 16:16.57 | sepisultrum | I have a wifi monitor that wants the sysfs interface |
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| 16:17.25 | hark | sepisultrum: which one? |
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| 16:17.54 | sepisultrum | hark: a contrib module of stumpwm a common-lisp wm. Not sure you know it ;) |
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| 16:19.24 | JyZyXEL | where the heck does iceweasel keep its flash plugin? |
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| 16:19.46 | esundin | So since no one seems to want to touch my issue (not here nor in #apache...) I guess I'm doing something horribly wrong. I've been googling for about 4h now so I would guess It's painfully obvious too, but if someone could point it out to me I'd be most gratefull, please? |
| 16:21.30 | zzattack | my remote server appears to have frozen. ssh connections are killed of immediately, I can connect to other open ports like 80 but I get no response over them. can I reboot this system somehow? |
| 16:21.46 | jelly | esundin: is that really everything your vhost file says? |
| 16:21.47 | Rienzilla | do you have the +x bits on the scripts who need to be executed esundin? |
| 16:22.02 | jelly | esundin: I mean, there's no actual VirtualHost there. |
| 16:22.08 | sylarrrr | what does this mean: |
| 16:22.09 | sylarrrr | Package: flashplugin-nonfree (1:2.5~bpo50+1) [backports] [contrib] |
| 16:22.18 | sylarrrr | ? |
| 16:22.33 | sylarrrr | 1:2.5~bpo50+1? |
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| 16:23.18 | jelly | sylarrrr: it's a debian package version which has no relation to Adobe Flash version. |
| 16:23.19 | esundin | jelly: no that's just the section detailing the /var/www/ directory, I'll pastebin the rest. |
| 16:24.28 | hark | sepisultrum: fix the module? |
| 16:25.12 | hark | sepisultrum: don't think you can do it the other way |
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| 16:25.34 | sepisultrum | hark: ok. so is that sys interface not supported by debian= |
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| 16:26.49 | esundin | jelly: http://pastebin.com/m14f50831 <--- there is my full 000-default file. |
| 16:27.13 | arezey | how do you alter the speed of your hardware clock? mine's going a little too slow |
| 16:27.46 | ajavid | you don't |
| 16:27.47 | bolt-work | arezey: how much too slow? |
| 16:27.58 | hark | sepisultrum: it is, but not that exact one here |
| 16:28.01 | bolt-work | arezey: ntpclient will compensate for small drift |
| 16:28.07 | zzattack | can I reboot a pc when I cant connect over ssh? |
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| 16:28.18 | ajavid | arezey, you mean overclocking? |
| 16:28.20 | hark | sepisultrum: you should have a /sys/class/net/eth0/ |
| 16:28.22 | sepisultrum | hark: you mean for this driver? |
| 16:28.27 | bolt-work | zzattack: depends what else you have running on it |
| 16:28.37 | bolt-work | zzattack: you need a way to log in and tell it to reboot |
| 16:28.41 | arezey | ajavid, well, my computer's clock is ticking too slow, yet to calculate the offset.. |
| 16:28.41 | zzattack | bolt-work: quite some stuff, but everything times out |
| 16:28.51 | ajavid | oh that clock |
| 16:29.03 | arezey | well, in a day's going it's off by ~10-20 minutes |
| 16:29.03 | sepisultrum | hark: yeah, I have /sys/class/net/eth1 but that one does not have wifi features afaik |
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| 16:29.30 | bolt-work | arezey: 20 minutes in a day? is this a virtual machine? |
| 16:29.39 | arezey | bolt-work, no |
| 16:29.42 | arcnewuss | why do i need to unload and reload a module to get an ip address with my wireless card |
| 16:29.42 | zzattack | bolt-work: i can still ping my system and the firewall seems to work as it should. |
| 16:29.52 | arezey | and it's not really 20 minutes/day, 10 would be closer imo but i haven't calculated it |
| 16:29.57 | bolt-work | zzattack: if you can't log in, i don't think you can reboot it though |
| 16:30.03 | jelly | arezey: is there an /etc/adjtime file present on the system? |
| 16:30.11 | arezey | yeah |
| 16:30.11 | arcnewuss | i can scan for ap, but i need to unload/reload the module to get an ip address |
| 16:30.25 | bolt-work | arezey: try installing ntpd. see if it helps |
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| 16:30.45 | jelly | arezey: remove it and install ntp |
| 16:30.52 | arezey | bolt-work, it's already installed |
| 16:30.58 | hark | sepisultrum: what does "readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module" say? |
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| 16:31.21 | sepisultrum | hark: nothing at all |
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| 16:31.32 | sepisultrum | hark: I don't have a wlan0 device |
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| 16:31.38 | hark | sepisultrum: sorry, replace wlan0 with eth1 |
| 16:31.38 | sepisultrum | my wifi is called eth1 |
| 16:31.39 | JyZyXEL | looks like the "flashplugin-nonfree" has been deleted |
| 16:31.42 | sepisultrum | ok |
| 16:31.44 | zzattack | bolt-work: that kind of sucks. I don't wanna have to go over there to reboot it. could I perhaps have something in the kernel running so that I can reboot it when this happens again? |
| 16:31.59 | sepisultrum | hark: ../../../../module/ipw2200 |
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| 16:33.02 | jelly | zzattack: you'd first have to figure out what exactly happened |
| 16:34.15 | jelly | zzattack: "watchdog" package might or might not help, depending on the failure mode |
| 16:34.15 | hark | sepisultrum: yeah, i don't have the /sys/cla .. wireless/link either |
| 16:34.24 | zzattack | jelly: thanks, i'll loko into it |
| 16:34.33 | zzattack | jelly: any more packages I shoudl be aware of? |
| 16:35.13 | sepisultrum | hark: is this driver dependent? |
| 16:35.35 | hark | sepisultrum: no, it's a standard interface afaik |
| 16:35.41 | JyZyXEL | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.50 | JyZyXEL | "is to be installed" |
| 16:36.03 | JyZyXEL | it should say IS installed |
| 16:36.28 | hark | JyZyXEL: you should have lenny sources only |
| 16:36.38 | hark | JyZyXEL: for dmm |
| 16:37.20 | sepisultrum | hark: what would you recommend me to do to get this wifi monitor working? I could of course hack some stuff that would use iwconfig instead but I guess that using /sys is the right way to go (tm) |
| 16:37.38 | JyZyXEL | hmm i had "testing" in my multimedia sources line |
| 16:38.00 | JyZyXEL | yea that was it |
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| 16:38.03 | hark | JyZyXEL: that's it |
| 16:38.29 | JyZyXEL | does the new testing have a name yet? |
| 16:38.46 | hark | squeeze |
| 16:38.56 | JyZyXEL | oh how qute |
| 16:39.08 | JyZyXEL | cute* |
| 16:39.08 | esundin | jelly: whooho, the apache people strike again! the trick is not to mix relative and absolute options... (quite obvious I guess) |
| 16:39.27 | arcnewuss | sepisultrum: use acpi or yacpi seems to be reliable |
| 16:39.28 | hark | we'll squeeze one out soon |
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| 16:39.47 | jelly | esundin: oh right, that + seemed unusual next to other nonplussed options |
| 16:39.49 | JyZyXEL | lol |
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| 16:40.50 | esundin | jelly: nonplussed options... that's so awesome. |
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| 16:41.49 | hark | sepisultrum: use something else i guess. i use xmobar here which gives me all that info. what status info are you looking for? |
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| 16:42.25 | bazyl | hi all ;) |
| 16:42.26 | jelly | esundin: it's a good thing there's no syntax error on anything, though. |
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| 16:43.03 | bazyl | help! i have problem with kernel 2.6.24 etchnhalf and sata disks |
| 16:43.24 | bazyl | after kernel update system hangs waiting for root file system |
| 16:43.28 | hark | sepisultrum: it's not a good module if you can't configure it ;) |
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| 16:44.00 | tetraedr | is there any way to install debian from usb stick? |
| 16:44.07 | tetraedr | just box doesn't have cdrom |
| 16:44.08 | bazyl | pleaste give me any clue, it was grub kernel option |
| 16:44.17 | hark | tetraedr: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 16:44.50 | tetraedr | hark, thanks |
| 16:44.54 | sepisultrum | hark: it reads the quality |
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| 16:45.49 | sepisultrum | hark: the question is if the 2200 driver can provide the information through that interface. If not, I'll fix that bug or file a report |
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| 16:48.54 | hark | let me check |
| 16:49.22 | hark | i know /proc/net/wireless gives it |
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| 16:50.12 | sylarrrr | where is the flashplugin for epiphany? I installed version 10, and it is still using 9. wu? |
| 16:50.29 | Raylz | any idea how to send back spam mails on my postfix server on lenny? |
| 16:50.30 | axz | guys whats best way to sync my clock in terminal? |
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| 16:50.54 | Raylz | reject* |
| 16:51.12 | sylarrrr | Raylz, send to who? they usually use fake address |
| 16:51.22 | Raylz | sylarrrr: jep |
| 16:51.42 | Raylz | or is this bad for us? |
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| 16:52.35 | rgr | I am trying to mount a smb share on one of this network hard drive thingies and I find conflicting info about the fstab line. both smb and smbfs are unknown file system types when I try to mount the share. What am I doing wrong? |
| 16:53.14 | jpinx | Raylz: don't send spam back - reply-to address are usually false or incorrect and you only increase the spam traffic problem |
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| 16:53.17 | sylarrrr | Raylz, If you could reject them instead of accepting them in the process that they are connected to you for sending than it is fine |
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| 16:53.51 | jpinx | Raylz: just silently drop them |
| 16:53.53 | sepisultrum | hark: well, I think I'll have to investigate further what interface is the one with best support and then patch that code. Thanks for your hints! |
| 16:53.57 | Raylz | jpinx: ok ty |
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| 16:55.14 | jpinx | I'm trying to recover the use of an SD card. fdisk -l doesn't see it but file /dev/sdb says block device, but dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb says no such device. Any ideas anyone? |
| 16:55.23 | rgr | Anyone here got an smb mount in their fstab? |
| 16:55.35 | hark | rgr: install smbfs and for type use cifs |
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| 16:58.17 | bazyl | please help me |
| 16:58.32 | bazyl | my system is dead after reboot waiting for root file system |
| 16:58.40 | bazyl | its sata problem |
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| 16:59.00 | xoz | bazyl: edit grub prompt... you may have a wrong location of root |
| 16:59.09 | jpinx | bazyl: what's the problem? |
| 16:59.15 | bazyl | xoz: i forgot grub option ;( |
| 16:59.38 | xoz | bazyl: at grub prompt... type e to edit and b to boot |
| 16:59.47 | bazyl | xoz: i know!!! |
| 16:59.56 | bazyl | but i dont know that option |
| 16:59.57 | xoz | bazyl: check root=/dev/drive is correct |
| 17:00.20 | bazyl | it was sth with ide or ... |
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| 17:00.34 | jpinx | bazyl: and remember that grub numbers devices from 0 not from 1 |
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| 17:00.39 | xoz | bazyl: try ide and then sda |
| 17:00.41 | bazyl | option root is ok |
| 17:01.00 | bazyl | how can i try ide? |
| 17:01.12 | xoz | bazyl: /dev/hda1 for example |
| 17:01.42 | xoz | bazyl: /dev/sda1 for scsci |
| 17:01.46 | bazyl | this option was sth like name=sth |
| 17:01.55 | jpinx | bazyl: you say it's a sata drive and if it's the first one it'll most likely be /dev/sd0 |
| 17:02.25 | bazyl | /dev/hda1 and /dev/sda dosnt work |
| 17:02.33 | xoz | bazyl: see jpinx |
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| 17:03.18 | bazyl | it says sd driver need update, waiting for root file system |
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| 17:03.40 | bazyl | it was grub option, i remember |
| 17:03.50 | xoz | that update message is not serious |
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| 17:03.51 | bazyl | i dont remember what it was |
| 17:03.54 | jpinx | bazyl: it depends on whether the MBR is on a partition or on the reserved part of the physical device |
| 17:04.22 | bazyl | omg, nothing has changed, i just updated kernel |
| 17:04.40 | bazyl | everything was working earlier |
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| 17:04.50 | jpinx | updating the kernel doesn't touch grub - you've done something else |
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| 17:05.02 | HiebY | how big is a minimal lenny install? |
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| 17:05.08 | bazyl | i was updating via aptitude |
| 17:05.18 | gps23 | i have downloaded my own firefox3 and put it up in /opt/firefox, now how can i make it my default browser as update-alternatives is not recognizing it, even after i changed the www-browser symlink in /etc/alternatives |
| 17:05.31 | jpinx | HiebY: I have a full lenny with x in under 1 Gb |
| 17:05.35 | intermittent | why would you do that? |
| 17:05.43 | intermittent | Ice Weasel is precisely the same thing |
| 17:05.43 | xoz | bazyl: most likely the grub-update f*** up |
| 17:05.49 | HiebY | jpinx: yes but what is the minimal |
| 17:05.54 | Danxor | there are no linux-headers for 2.6.28-1-amd64 |
| 17:05.54 | Danxor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:06.19 | HiebY | when you don't select any tasks in the install |
| 17:06.23 | jpinx | HiebY: I have heard of installs at around 300MBs, but don't quote me |
| 17:06.34 | shafu | any tool like chkconfig on debian? I want to turn off some services.. |
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| 17:06.45 | gps23 | intermittent, i wasn't sure if icewaesal is version 3 or 2, also it required much larger download - around 50 MB |
| 17:07.11 | HiebY | jpinx: yes i think etch took about 230 |
| 17:07.16 | intermittent | Ice Weasel is 3.0.6 |
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| 17:07.18 | intermittent | currently |
| 17:07.28 | HiebY | i want to know if this has changed significantly |
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| 17:07.36 | jpinx | bazyl: you can enter the grub shell and edit menu.lst from there |
| 17:07.40 | HiebY | i don't think so but |
| 17:07.57 | HiebY | doing an integrated project |
| 17:07.59 | intermittent | gps23: Aside from different name and icons, Ice Weasel is Firefox |
| 17:08.10 | HiebY | so i need to know before i recommend debian |
| 17:08.12 | intermittent | there were some trademark issues with the Mozilla Corporation |
| 17:08.31 | gps23 | intermittent, i googled somewhat and i saw forums where users complained that it crashed on their machines |
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| 17:08.43 | intermittent | been fine for me |
| 17:08.57 | intermittent | SWFDEC is not all that stable, but if you replace it with real Flash, it's fine |
| 17:09.10 | intermittent | that's the only thing I've seen crash Ice Weasel |
| 17:09.14 | maligor | real flash isn't all that stable either |
| 17:09.14 | Danxor | how do i get linux-headers-2.6.28-1-amd64 |
| 17:09.15 | Danxor | ? |
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| 17:09.32 | xoz | notest that grub-update checks the menu.lst info for root and kernel options which are commented... very confusing for those who are not aware not to comment out these options |
| 17:09.55 | maligor | sun should've pushed java for that use a long time ago, atleast it's rock solid stuff |
| 17:10.05 | azeem | xoz: hrm? |
| 17:10.06 | gps23 | intermittent, i downloaded flash specially for it and installed it giving it the path /opt/firefox |
| 17:10.14 | jimpy | has anyone got any nifty commands (possibly using dd) to help burn in hard drives? |
| 17:10.28 | abrotman | jimpy: bonnie |
| 17:10.32 | intermittent | unfortunately, removing swfdec removes the GNOME metapackage |
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| 17:10.41 | jimpy | bonnie you say |
| 17:10.42 | intermittent | and Apt will treat 100 important things as orphans |
| 17:10.48 | bolt-work | burn in? |
| 17:10.59 | gps23 | intermittent, earlier i installed flashpluing-nonfree using aptitude but it didn't worked, may be it didn't found my firefox |
| 17:11.01 | abrotman | judd: info bonnie++ --version lenny |
| 17:11.02 | judd | abrotman: (info ) -- Output brief info about a package. Usage: "info packagename [--arch i386] [--release etch]" |
| 17:11.03 | xoz | azeem: i used to comment out those kernel options... which should not be the case |
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| 17:11.08 | abrotman | judd: info bonnie++ --release lenny |
| 17:11.09 | judd | abrotman: bonnie++ (utils): is optional; Version: 1.03d; Size: 41.6k; Installed: 100k -- Hard drive bottleneck testing benchmark suite. |
| 17:11.11 | jpinx | jimpy oxy-acetylene |
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| 17:11.16 | azeem | xoz: they should be commented out, no? |
| 17:11.19 | maligor | bolt-work, probably to screen child deaths |
| 17:11.26 | jimpy | jpinx: lol |
| 17:11.28 | xoz | azeem: no |
| 17:11.33 | abrotman | stew: can we make --version a synonym for --release in the info command? |
| 17:11.35 | hyde | can I find out when a package got installed using apt-get install command? |
| 17:11.40 | azeem | xoz: what exactly are you talking about? |
| 17:11.44 | xoz | azeem: like the kopt and groot |
| 17:12.01 | azeem | yes, those should be commented out |
| 17:12.02 | abrotman | hyde: check the logs in /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/aptitude |
| 17:12.18 | azeem | am I confused about what "comment out" means? |
| 17:12.23 | xoz | azeem: try changing it without commenting out and grub-update |
| 17:12.25 | gps23 | intermittent, so did u had to change user agent in iceweasal? |
| 17:12.34 | jimpy | abrotman: cheers that should work great! |
| 17:12.36 | xoz | azeem: it will work... but commenting it out will not |
| 17:12.54 | xoz | azeem: removing the # |
| 17:12.59 | azeem | xoz: that's uncommenting |
| 17:13.04 | azeem | the commented-out line |
| 17:13.06 | azeem | I'd say |
| 17:13.13 | intermittent | I think dpkg -r --force-all swfdec-mozilla will get rid of it without molesting anything else |
| 17:13.14 | bolt-work | maligor: hm.. fair enough |
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| 17:13.19 | xoz | azeem: uncomment... yeah |
| 17:13.29 | bolt-work | maligor: a bit unusual though |
| 17:13.47 | maligor | bolt-work, well, I'm not a sysadmin but I imagine if you put them in a array it might be worth it |
| 17:13.56 | xoz | azeem: which is confusing... because normally you remove # for configs |
| 17:14.15 | bolt-work | maligor: well if you are putting it in a neat array, you probably have hot-swap anyway, don't you? |
| 17:14.17 | xoz | azeem: if you want it to be executed or honored |
| 17:14.24 | gps23 | intermittent, but why you uninstalled swfdc-mozilla? will you download and install flash yourself now? |
| 17:14.31 | maligor | bolt-work, yes, that did occur, beats me then :P |
| 17:14.44 | maligor | don't see any other point in burn-in for hdd tho |
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| 17:14.46 | intermittent | and it didn't, apt complains about it next time you use apt |
| 17:14.49 | intermittent | so I put it back |
| 17:14.58 | intermittent | how the hell do I get rid of this |
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| 17:15.35 | gps23 | intermittent, it didn't pulled gnome with it, so removing it shouldn't remove gnome |
| 17:15.49 | intermittent | it does |
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| 17:16.14 | intermittent | just googling it shows dozens of others with the same issue |
| 17:16.18 | hyde | abrotman: can I get the installation date for the package via modification date of the package file in folder '/var/cache/apt/archives'? |
| 17:16.27 | intermittent | I may just go to Mozilla's plugin folder and rm the plugin |
| 17:16.35 | intermittent | so that apt thinks the package is still installed |
| 17:16.40 | hyde | abrotman: I am using apt-rpm in Centos. |
| 17:16.41 | abrotman | hyde: that's when it was downloaded .. not installed |
| 17:16.48 | abrotman | hyde: i don't know .. ask them .. jesus |
| 17:16.55 | gps23 | intermittent, that may break ur apt |
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| 17:17.01 | abrotman | why do people think this is an apt* support channel ... |
| 17:17.03 | intermittent | I doubt it |
| 17:17.11 | intermittent | not like it's an important file |
| 17:17.25 | abrotman | (regardless of distro i mean) |
| 17:17.43 | jameswhite | any apt experts around? I'm trying to pin and I'm getting bizzare results... |
| 17:18.10 | abrotman | jameswhite: what is bizarre about it? |
| 17:18.21 | gps23 | intermittent, still there have to be a better solution |
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| 17:18.34 | intermittent | hmmm, I could mark all GNOME packages as manually installed |
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| 17:18.54 | gps23 | intermittent, so you still recommend iceweasal over self-downloaded firefox? |
| 17:19.08 | intermittent | well, yes |
| 17:19.25 | intermittent | and typically anything you can get from your distribution itself is the better choice |
| 17:19.53 | jameswhite | abrotman: using apt.websages.com/sources.list and apt.websages.com/preferences in /etc/apt, when I do a apt-get install bind9, it pulls from my repository, and bindutils from ftp.debian.org, even though they have the same priority... |
| 17:19.56 | gps23 | intermittent, then i will too give it a try |
| 17:20.04 | intermittent | you should only grab packages not in Debian or the Debian Multimedia project as a last resort |
| 17:20.19 | abrotman | jameswhite: put your sources.list and preferences in a pastebin |
| 17:20.55 | gps23 | intermittent, i too prefer same but in firefox case i decided to make an exception |
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| 17:21.19 | intermittent | just leave Mozilla's tarball alone |
| 17:21.23 | intermittent | best advice |
| 17:21.28 | nareshov | what about perl and ruby? D: |
| 17:21.30 | hark | abrotman: i think those are the links :) |
| 17:21.31 | gps23 | intermittent, thanks |
| 17:21.58 | abrotman | hark: he may have goofed copying ? |
| 17:22.11 | jameswhite | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m5163b102 |
| 17:22.16 | hark | oh right |
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| 17:23.19 | jogla | Hello |
| 17:23.23 | abrotman | jameswhite: though .. why use their bind packages ? |
| 17:23.31 | jogla | Kde4 is in Debian stable |
| 17:23.39 | bolt-work | no |
| 17:23.46 | abrotman | jogla: no |
| 17:23.49 | jameswhite | abrotman: I've recompiled bind9 with sdb-ldap |
| 17:23.54 | jogla | jonathan@cioccolato:~$ apt-cache show kdebase-runtime |
| 17:24.00 | jogla | Version: 4:4.1.0-2 |
| 17:24.01 | jameswhite | abrotman: websages is my site |
| 17:24.06 | bolt-work | ... |
| 17:24.15 | abrotman | jameswhite: dpkg-architecture | head -1 .. show us that |
| 17:24.39 | jogla | abrotman: If i want to install ktorrent 3, it wants to remove kde 3 |
| 17:24.52 | jogla | abrotman: if you have stable (lenny) too, please check for your self |
| 17:25.06 | abrotman | jogla: i'd rather not install anything involving kde on my systems . thanks though |
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| 17:25.46 | xoz | jogla: try transmission |
| 17:25.56 | jogla | hmm |
| 17:26.17 | hark | jameswhite: pastebin apt-cache policy binutils bind9 |
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| 17:26.22 | jameswhite | is installing dpkg-dev |
| 17:26.25 | jogla | i'm wondering why kde-runtime 4.1 is in debian stable, and why aptitude install ktorrent whants to delete my running desktop environment |
| 17:26.31 | hark | bindutils* |
| 17:26.49 | jogla | i'm not looking for bit torrent tools |
| 17:26.54 | jameswhite | dpkg-architecture | head -1: DEB_BUILD_ARCH=i386 |
| 17:27.10 | xoz | jpinx: what about apt-get install? same suggestion? |
| 17:27.13 | jogla | you can just see for yourself by typing apt-cache show kdebase-runtime |
| 17:27.26 | gps23 | i have installed iceweasal, still when i do update-alternatives www-browser it shows that i only have w3m installed |
| 17:27.38 | hark | gps23: x-www-browser |
| 17:27.47 | jameswhite | hark: http://pastebin.com/m4159503c |
| 17:28.12 | gps23 | hark, oh, its already set to iceweasal, thanks |
| 17:28.17 | jameswhite | hark: I pasted binutils |
| 17:28.18 | abrotman | jameswhite: uh .. you gave them the same version number |
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| 17:28.29 | jameswhite | hark: W: Unable to locate package bindutils |
| 17:28.30 | xoz | jogla: what is really your problem? dependency? |
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| 17:28.38 | scribeskul | Hey guys, Is there anyway to get GLX working with two different Video Cards & Xinerama, or something similar? I am using an AGP Nvidia 5200 & a PCI Nvidia TNT. |
| 17:28.40 | hark | jameswhite: bindutils, typo :) |
| 17:29.08 | jameswhite | hark: yeah when I do bindutils: W: Unable to locate package bindutils |
| 17:29.19 | jameswhite | hark: I'm not sure why... |
| 17:29.30 | xoz | binutils |
| 17:29.33 | jameswhite | abrotman: they are the same version |
| 17:29.51 | scribeskul | . |
| 17:29.57 | hark | jameswhite: bind9utils |
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| 17:30.13 | jogla | xoz: I though kde4 wasn't in debian, but it seems it is in, i'm a bit configused |
| 17:30.21 | jogla | and in addition, it wants to kill kde3, yes |
| 17:30.25 | jpinx | xoz Inuse aptitude not apt-get |
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| 17:30.38 | jameswhite | hark: http://pastebin.com/m60dcc143 |
| 17:30.43 | jpinx | s/Iuse/I use |
| 17:30.46 | jameswhite | hark: sorry about that. |
| 17:31.09 | abrotman | jameswhite: but i think what you're seeing is that apt can't differentiate ? |
| 17:31.10 | et | jogla: some of the libs are in, so it's easer for people to get kde4 from other sources |
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| 17:31.20 | jogla | et: Ahh |
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| 17:31.58 | jameswhite | abrotman: so the fact I got bind9 from my repo was just by chance, or how it's ordered in apt-cache? |
| 17:31.58 | xoz | jogla: are you using lenny, right? |
| 17:32.03 | jogla | xoz: yes |
| 17:32.18 | jameswhite | abrotman: so I need to up the patch level on my pkg or something? |
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| 17:32.28 | abrotman | jameswhite: probably .. it would make it easier to differentiate anyways |
| 17:32.32 | jogla | et: but its strange/dangerous that it wants to kill kde3 if you want to install ktorrent i think |
| 17:32.52 | xoz | jogla: apt-get distupgrade first |
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| 17:34.39 | jogla | xoz: nothing to update :) |
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| 17:35.26 | xoz | jogla: what kde3 packages? |
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| 17:35.52 | Danxor | valdyn: are you there? |
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| 17:36.32 | Danxor | how can i see if im using debian stable/lenny/sid or whatever ? |
| 17:36.48 | xoz | cat \et |
| 17:36.55 | xoz | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:37.00 | jogla | xoz: I think exactly everything that is a dependency of amarok ;) |
| 17:37.25 | Danxor | xoz: 5.0 |
| 17:37.33 | Danxor | so lenny ? |
| 17:37.49 | Geek`N`Proud` | Danxor: yes |
| 17:38.00 | Danxor | Geek`N`Proud`: ic |
| 17:38.03 | Geek`N`Proud` | Danxor: there's another way too |
| 17:38.12 | Geek`N`Proud` | cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep lenny |
| 17:38.32 | Geek`N`Proud` | if you get output then chances are you are on lenny (stable) |
| 17:38.53 | Danxor | Geek`N`Proud`: i see, yea i do get it |
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| 17:39.11 | Danxor | Geek`N`Proud`: just, i upgraded the kernel so i thought the version changed too, lol |
| 17:39.12 | xoz | jogla: perhaps aptitude is too intelligent.... try apt-get ? |
| 17:39.34 | xoz | jogla: or pin amarok |
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| 17:40.00 | hark | jameswhite: just to check, what does "apt-cache policy" say? |
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| 17:41.59 | xoz | unless he used stable keyword instead of lenny |
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| 17:43.39 | jogla | xoz: Its the same with apt-get |
| 17:43.56 | jogla | i use lenny, not stable in my sources.list |
| 17:44.20 | jogla | it seems the kde3 programs run well with the kde4 lib packages |
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| 17:44.21 | jameswhite | hark: http://pastebin.com/m60dcc143 |
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| 17:44.39 | xoz | jogla: lenny is ok |
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| 17:44.58 | jameswhite | hark: it looks like it's unable to differentiate from that output... |
| 17:45.28 | xoz | jogla: there are two ktorrents... use ktorrent2.2 or ktorrent |
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| 17:45.58 | xoz | jogla: i think you need 2.2 |
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| 17:46.41 | hark | jameswhite: only the output of "apt-cache policy" alone |
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| 17:47.44 | jameswhite | hark: http://pastebin.com/m70d327e1 |
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| 17:47.55 | arcnewuss | where should i look when they tell me to look at kernel's .config |
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| 17:48.43 | nareshov | arcnewuss: if the kernel supports "zcat /proc/config.gz" |
| 17:48.49 | hark | /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 17:48.52 | nareshov | o |
| 17:48.59 | nareshov | neat |
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| 17:50.32 | arcnewuss | none of them seems to work |
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| 17:50.46 | jameswhite | hark: what does the priority next to the distro mean there? |
| 17:51.07 | arcnewuss | sudo: /boot/config-2.6.27-11-generic: command not found |
| 17:51.16 | jameswhite | looks like ftp.us.debian.org has 500, and mine 200. |
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| 17:51.30 | nareshov | arcnewuss: open it with a text editor |
| 17:51.32 | jameswhite | mans apt_preferences again |
| 17:51.47 | arcnewuss | ok thanks |
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| 17:52.31 | arcnewuss | opening what with the editor |
| 17:52.51 | xoz | jogla: ok now? |
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| 17:54.25 | arcnewuss | i got it sorry |
| 17:54.46 | LoonaTick | Hi, [Imagick + PHP5.2.6-1+lenny2] - Strange problem. Imagick::queryFonts() returns english font styles (Bold, Italic) in the CLI option. When running trough apache2 it returns in Spanish, for example Negreta. Anyone know what can cause this? |
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| 17:59.58 | macman | you guys know a good app that can find albumn artwork ? |
| 18:00.01 | kenboo | LoonaTick: locale? |
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| 18:00.38 | LoonaTick | kenboo: I figured, but where can I set it? |
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| 18:00.58 | LoonaTick | I looked for it in imagemagick and php config files, but couldn't find anything about it |
| 18:01.26 | jogla | xoz: yes, thank you |
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| 18:01.42 | LoonaTick | apache2 config files as well btw |
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| 18:06.26 | Danxor | are there any linux headers for the kernel 2.6.28-1-amd64 that i can install? cause i need to install the graphic drivers, when i try to install them, aptitude says that there arent any |
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| 18:08.24 | adb | Danxor: not yet |
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| 18:11.33 | Waxhead | I'm running Debian Lenny and I think I did something very stupid using the mv command. (I moved a directory and not the subdirs and I managed to delete the moved directory) now I have a lot of used space on my / and AFAIK this is caused by the files not having a parrent dir and are in "nowhere" on the disk. And I don't know how to delete / free up the used space. I also tried fschk but no luck. (hope this is the right place to ask this kin |
| 18:11.51 | Waxhead | btw I'm using ext3 |
| 18:12.02 | kenboo | LoonaTick: I tried cli with different locales. though the name of the fonts are localized but basically queryFont returned the same fonts |
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| 18:12.35 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: I think it will clear up after 5-20 minutes if the files are really not pointed to anymore |
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| 18:13.03 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: well not it's been 20 minuttes and df still shows 100% usage on / :'( |
| 18:13.17 | kenboo | so I guess you can set $ENV['LANG'] = 'C' or something like that at the beginning of your script. |
| 18:13.17 | LoonaTick | kenboo: yea, it are the same fonts. I can change locale for the CLI (LC_ALL variable) iirc, only I don't know how to change it for the php5/php5-imagick/apache2 setup |
| 18:13.20 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: or to be honest... much over 20 mins... |
| 18:13.27 | LoonaTick | hmmm good idea, let me try |
| 18:13.36 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: You sure it's no longer pointed to? |
| 18:13.58 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: honestly I have no idea... all I know is that the dir containing the files are gone! |
| 18:14.22 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: Tried updatedb & locate (or find) for something in it? |
| 18:15.16 | LoonaTick | kenboo: Still Arial-Negreta-cursiva :( |
| 18:15.44 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: nope... err... updatedb? is that for filesystems? |
| 18:15.51 | kenboo | ok, let me try on apache |
| 18:16.21 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: No, it's just to update the file listing of all files on your harddrive |
| 18:16.26 | LoonaTick | then locate to search for them |
| 18:17.06 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: ok have to get updatedb first ;) |
| 18:17.40 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: apt-get nss-updatedb ?! is it that package ? |
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| 18:17.47 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: It's in default debian installation.. |
| 18:17.56 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: I upgraded from etch |
| 18:18.02 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: It was in potato. |
| 18:18.10 | Waxhead | well updatedb == unknown command |
| 18:18.19 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: Reinstall. |
| 18:18.25 | ehazlett | anyone built a fedora 10 xen guest on debian 5 dom0? |
| 18:18.37 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: You probably deleted other required stuff as well. |
| 18:18.53 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: so you are saying that I should reinstall lenny ?!?!?! |
| 18:19.08 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: Sounds like the windoze way of fixing stuff :( |
| 18:19.32 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: True. I don't know in what package updatedb is. But if you deleted it, you have probably deleted other required packages as well. |
| 18:20.27 | LoonaTick | I don't have any package installed which has updatedb in it. So it's not nss-updatedb. |
| 18:20.29 | Waxhead | LoonaTick: well I have not deleted updatedb IIRC |
| 18:20.54 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: Then it was the midget. :) |
| 18:21.08 | LoonaTick | Waxhead: Or something went seriously wrong when upgrading to lenny. |
| 18:21.20 | Waxhead | Waxhead: hehe... probably :P |
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| 18:23.13 | Danxor | adb: so i cant install the drivers ? |
| 18:24.38 | adb | Danxor: yes |
| 18:25.00 | Danxor | adb: it requires the headers |
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| 18:25.32 | Danxor | adb: the installer says `no precompiled kernel interface has been found in your system` and then it aborts |
| 18:25.49 | adb | or do .28 from sources so you'll have the headers needed |
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| 18:26.30 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.44 | Danxor | adb: im a newbie lol |
| 18:26.53 | adb | me too |
| 18:26.57 | Danxor | im not able to compile a kernel i think |
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| 18:27.15 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, which card? |
| 18:27.28 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: which card ? |
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| 18:27.57 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: you mean the video card..? |
| 18:28.14 | adb | tell Danxor about make-kpkg |
| 18:28.31 | Danxor | !tell Danxor about make-kpkg |
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| 18:28.45 | adb | tell Danxor about compile kernel |
| 18:28.58 | Danxor | !tell Danxor about compile kernel |
| 18:29.30 | Quicken2k | can I get a bigger mouse pointer? |
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| 18:29.54 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, ya, |
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| 18:30.21 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: nvidia geforce 8600 gt |
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| 18:30.47 | izzyb | What is the best way to do perl -MCPAN -e 'install something', but maintaining debian package maintenance? |
| 18:31.00 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, the one in the repos dont work well? |
| 18:31.12 | izzyb | I'm trying to install something that isn't already a debian package |
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| 18:32.00 | simonrvn | izzyb: dh-make-perl |
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| 18:32.12 | neyz | hello everyone |
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| 18:33.12 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: you mean the debian way installer? |
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| 18:33.38 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, ya ... the drivers from the repo , arent fine ? |
| 18:33.38 | neyz | i'm simulating websurf using jmeter on my server, everything goes well untill i reach around 60 threads (with 20sec delay between each click) from there, the website becomes really unresponsive but even worse, ssh access starts to lag like hell so i'm thinking it's a kernel issue what do you think ? web surfing on other websites works like a charm during that test |
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| 18:34.05 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: i just always installed them the nvidia way |
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| 18:34.17 | LoonaTick | kenboo: Having any luck? |
| 18:34.18 | simonrvn | neyz: optimize your tcp stack |
| 18:34.23 | simonrvn | via sysctl |
| 18:34.33 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, oh ok, i feel that using the ones in the repo is less cumbersome :) |
| 18:35.03 | neyz | sysctl mm, never heard of that ^^ going to look into it thanks |
| 18:35.04 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: the problem is that there are no headers yet for this kernel |
| 18:35.12 | neyz | do you have any other tips using that tool ? |
| 18:35.27 | simonrvn | google it |
| 18:35.28 | kenboo | LoonaTick: reading ImageMagick code in C ;-) |
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| 18:36.09 | neyz | what i'm seeing is ways to harden your stack |
| 18:36.10 | LoonaTick | kenboo: Wow, great. Thanks! Let me know if I can do anything for you. Can't understand C-code though. |
| 18:36.12 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, aah, ok :) cant do anything till they are out, better is to use the drivers from repo till the headers come :) |
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| 18:36.52 | izzyb | simonrvn, thanks. I've installed it and had a quick look through the man. I'm guessing I do something like dh-make-perl --cpan Some::Module? |
| 18:37.01 | izzyb | tries |
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| 18:37.11 | simonrvn | dh-make-perl --help ;) |
| 18:38.59 | simonrvn | i usually do --notest (or whatever the "don't do the make test run" thing is ...) --build --cpan Module::Name or some such |
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| 18:39.17 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: how to use them? |
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| 18:41.00 | izzyb | simonrvn, why the no test? |
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| 18:42.41 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-1-amd64 nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig |
| 18:43.18 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: 2.6.28-1-amd64 < thats the one i use |
| 18:43.39 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, oh sorry you need to be root to install them |
| 18:43.51 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, then dont use the one i told :) |
| 18:43.59 | LoonaTick | izzyb: If you want to install it on several machines, you could make a .deb package for it, on 1 machine i'd suggest CPAN |
| 18:44.04 | LoonaTick | oops, scrolled |
| 18:44.05 | DSlenentine | Stephen congratulations |
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| 18:47.45 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: so i cant install anything for the drivers? |
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| 18:49.04 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, i meant dont use the kernel thing i told, you can try the rest |
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| 18:49.42 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: im getting confused.. lol im still a newbie ;x |
| 18:50.42 | arvind_khadri | aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig Danxor |
| 18:51.02 | Danxor | arvind_khadri: uhm thats gonna install the video drivers?o.O |
| 18:51.26 | izzyb | simonrvn, I see you need to run it as root or it doesn't work. It fails the test, so I'm guessing that's why you set --notest |
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| 18:52.52 | arvind_khadri | Danxor, ya |
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| 18:53.31 | abrotman | Danxor: this is why you shouldn't be using unstable |
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| 18:54.09 | Danxor | abrotman: i had problems with the other kernel and someone here told me to update it |
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| 18:55.05 | Danxor | abrotman: i kept getting IRQ interrupt messages |
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| 18:58.22 | simonrvn | izzyb: i run it in fakeroot |
| 18:58.40 | jogla | Pidgin does not work with icq in debian stable, from what i can see on packages.debian.org, it is already reported and fixed |
| 18:58.49 | jogla | When is it available in debian stable? |
| 18:59.00 | izzyb | hmm, dh-make-perl doesn't seem to create the .deb file for some reason. it says it's creating it, but nothing is there. if I do --install instead of --build, it again says it's building it, but then can't find it to run it |
| 18:59.03 | jogla | ICQ with Pidgin is not working since 2 or 3 days. |
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| 18:59.45 | izzyb | jogla, is it in sid? |
| 19:00.15 | izzyb | you could try backports or ssb |
| 19:00.17 | izzyb | !ssb |
| 19:00.17 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
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| 19:00.48 | jogla | izzyb: there is a newer version of that package in sid |
| 19:00.56 | jogla | the version in stable is rather old |
| 19:00.58 | izzyb | jogla, or you can wait for it to be pushed to stable |
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| 19:01.10 | izzyb | yeah, I found that with libvirt stuff also |
| 19:01.20 | jogla | what is the policy for such cases? |
| 19:01.27 | izzyb | learned about !ssb and it worked perfectly for me :) |
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| 19:02.02 | jogla | i can work, its no problem, i want a stable solution and i think debian stable will provide one :) |
| 19:02.03 | KenLaptop | Anyone know why this would write lines 3-6 to the file, rather than following the EOF: http://pastebin.com/m5ebf9463 |
| 19:02.05 | izzyb | basicly ssb allows you to build from source, using the source in sid, but without loosing the debian package management |
| 19:02.07 | jogla | but i also want to understand the policy ;) |
| 19:02.12 | hark | jogla: it'll be in volatile |
| 19:02.19 | jogla | ahh |
| 19:02.38 | jogla | volatile is something like testing? |
| 19:02.44 | pjj | does anyone have any idea what vga option to put in grub menu config file to setup framebuffer on a 1280x800 display on my laptop (free ati drivers, not the proprietary ones) |
| 19:02.45 | hark | actually, i think it's already there |
| 19:03.13 | hark | !dbugs 518988 |
| 19:03.16 | dpkg | DONE:#518988:N[pidgin] pidgin: Connection to ICQ fails with "client version too old" (patch); Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:09:11 UTC [519011 519053] |
| 19:03.25 | jogla | yes |
| 19:03.33 | izzyb | jogla, you'd end up with a mixed system since you'd have something from sid in lenny. but it's better and cleaner then simply installing something from source |
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| 19:03.56 | jogla | izzyb: i will wait for it to appear in stable |
| 19:04.03 | jogla | but thank you |
| 19:04.07 | nivanson | hi, i have a complete backup of another drive in /backup/. I want to move that into / so I can let it be a real clone. Will i face any problems if i just mv -r /backup/* / ? No files/directories in /backup/ will conflict with any in / |
| 19:04.12 | hark | jogla: /msg dpkg volatile |
| 19:04.13 | izzyb | np, it depends on how much you need it |
| 19:04.16 | sylarrrr | how do I find out what is my gtk+ version? |
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| 19:05.57 | izzyb | jogla, since lenny was just released, that could be a bit of a wait. backports is the next best thing, but if it isn't there yet, ssb is probably the next best thing. unless someone can suggest something else? |
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| 19:06.25 | jogla | hmm |
| 19:06.31 | jogla | its interesting, because it was fixed |
| 19:06.40 | simonrvn | you'll have to do ssb since backports probably only has very few packages in it |
| 19:06.44 | jogla | the problem was not fixed for sid, the problem does not exist in sid |
| 19:07.10 | izzyb | hmm, although this is the first I'm hearing of volatile... |
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| 19:07.30 | simonrvn | been around since etch released IIRC |
| 19:07.53 | simonrvn | (set up before that, then active when it released, IIRC) |
| 19:07.55 | izzyb | how does it differ from backports? |
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| 19:08.25 | jogla | There still has to be a policy for this bug going into lenny, otherwhise, why has it been fixed? |
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| 19:08.47 | jogla | s/has it been/was it/ |
| 19:08.53 | democrite | Hi |
| 19:09.12 | izzyb | I don't think anything except security updates goes into stable once it's released |
| 19:09.21 | izzyb | that's why things like backports exist |
| 19:09.23 | kenboo | LoonaTick: I got it working (I guess) |
| 19:09.34 | simonrvn | stuff like spamassassin, clamav, goes into volatile |
| 19:09.42 | simonrvn | !volatile |
| 19:09.42 | dpkg | volatile is probably a project that aims at keeping the stable distribution up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. It can be found at http://volatile.debian.org/. An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 19:10.28 | kenboo | LoonaTick: at the beginning of your code, put setlocale(LC_ALL, 'C'); You can set preferred locale instead of 'C' |
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| 19:10.45 | simonrvn | jogla: it's not a serious enough bug to make it into lenny via security |
| 19:11.04 | jogla | are only security holes fixed? |
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| 19:11.14 | adama | how do I see what line I am on, in vim |
| 19:11.31 | jogla | :set ruler |
| 19:11.39 | democrite | I'm having a trouble when upgrading vim : "E: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/v/vim/vim-runtime_7.0-122+1etch5_all.deb: MD5Sum mismatch". |
| 19:11.46 | izzyb | simonrvn, would something like this fix end up in volatile? |
| 19:11.49 | democrite | Is there something I can do to make it work ? |
| 19:11.51 | kenboo | LoonaTick: I had to spend time finding why php ignores setlocale for my locale ja_JP.UTF-8. It was Debian's problem not updating locale-archive. I ran locale-gen, then everything worked ok |
| 19:11.51 | izzyb | never heard of it before... |
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| 19:12.03 | izzyb | loves hanging out in irc, learn all kinds of cool stuff :) |
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| 19:12.17 | adama | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.20 | LoonaTick | kenboo: Great, let me try that too |
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| 19:13.06 | izzyb | how about things like the fast moving libvirt stuff? |
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| 19:13.21 | simonrvn | i don't know |
| 19:13.37 | kenboo | LoonaTick: also my /usr/share/locale/locale.alias was outdated. I think dist-upgrade etch->lenny doesn't want to touch that area. |
| 19:13.39 | simonrvn | i doubt it |
| 19:13.57 | hark | adama: set cursorline ? |
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| 19:14.29 | izzyb | I'm guessing spamassassin is in it. That's good to know :) |
| 19:14.40 | LoonaTick | kenboo: locale-gen didn't fix it. english isn't in locale.alias. How can I know if it's outdated? |
| 19:14.44 | simonrvn | izzyb: *ahem* read the factoid.... |
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| 19:15.11 | izzyb | nods :) |
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| 19:15.26 | democrite | Nothing I can do ? |
| 19:15.44 | adama | that didn't work either |
| 19:15.55 | adama | *sigh* fiiine, I'll google it myself ;) |
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| 19:16.09 | hark | adama: do you mean line numbers? |
| 19:16.15 | kenboo | LoonaTick: your problem is somehow you get Spanish locale when you actually want English, right? so setting to 'C' explicitly should be good. |
| 19:16.22 | hark | adama: or hilight current line? |
| 19:16.43 | adama | I want to see what line the cursor is currently on. |
| 19:16.46 | LoonaTick | kenboo: And do you know how to set this? In CLI it's ok, only in php+apache it's broken |
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| 19:17.07 | kenboo | LoonaTick: I will send you my code in PM |
| 19:17.09 | hark | :set cursorline does that |
| 19:17.10 | izzyb | lenny volatile only has an update for freshclam |
| 19:17.18 | LoonaTick | kenboo: Great, thanks! |
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| 19:17.45 | adama | hark: not for me. |
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| 19:18.04 | izzyb | but spamassassin updates are in etch, so just a matter of time I guess :) |
| 19:18.15 | hark | adama: ok |
| 19:18.27 | adama | hark: I did :set number - shows numbers on all lines - good enough |
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| 19:19.14 | myeggo | hello, i want experiment new mp3 players and i am using rhymtymbox until now, some suggestion? |
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| 19:21.30 | adama | myeggo: I swear by xmms 1 |
| 19:21.44 | adama | also mplayer on the command line |
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| 19:22.01 | myeggo | as a joke was fun |
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| 19:22.48 | adama | those 2 are all I use |
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| 19:23.59 | sylarrrr | how do I see what files a process use? |
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| 19:24.33 | myeggo | gnome-system-monitor |
| 19:24.53 | dkr | sylarrrr: lsof |
| 19:25.20 | dkr | sylarrrr: ls /proc/pid/fd |
| 19:25.33 | dkr | sylarrrr: strace -e open process |
| 19:25.38 | jogla | that pidgin upgrade isn't in volatile either |
| 19:25.39 | royjoyhob | Hey I'm having a really hard time with an old Dell Poweredge. I'm trying to install Debian but at a certain point it says failed to read files from CD. I was having the same problem with Ubuntu. I know these CDs are good, I ran integrity checks multiple times on multiple systems. (The check fails on the Poweredge though). |
| 19:25.54 | royjoyhob | Also, I have two of the same model Poweredge, they both fail in the same way. |
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| 19:30.49 | sylarrrr | strange |
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| 19:32.01 | gynterk | hello, any ideas why Xen dom0 on debian doesnt recognize my e1000? |
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| 19:32.06 | gynterk | it only happens on debian |
| 19:32.18 | gynterk | e1000 nic |
| 19:33.13 | abrotman | gynterk: what is the kernel you're using and what is the PCIID of the device? |
| 19:33.57 | Texou | hi |
| 19:34.06 | Danxor | abrotman: i did: aptitude install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig -- but it asks me the CD |
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| 19:34.17 | Danxor | and when i putted the cd in and pressed enter, it keeps asking .. |
| 19:34.25 | abrotman | Danxor: so comment out that source if you don't want to use it |
| 19:34.41 | Danxor | abrotman: ok |
| 19:34.45 | Texou | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.06 | Texou | kernel 2.6..26-1-amd64 |
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| 19:36.49 | simonrvn | Danxor: you'll need to run an update after you comment it out |
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| 19:38.59 | gynterk | abrotman, 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64, 0d:00.0 |
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| 19:39.36 | gynterk | wrong paste |
| 19:39.48 | gynterk | 8086:108b is the id |
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| 19:43.00 | gynterk | hmm it seems to be e1000e not e1000 |
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| 19:45.20 | honschu | How to modify the date of a file? |
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| 19:49.24 | cjae | I have been peeking around google to see how kde 4.2 is on debian and how hard it is to install it |
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| 19:51.26 | simonrvn | honschu: which one? |
| 19:51.58 | honschu | simonrvn: "touch /tmp/test" - now I would like to make it 2 months older - how to do that? |
| 19:52.14 | simonrvn | touch --help will tell you.... |
| 19:52.37 | simonrvn | wonders why people don't bother looking at the --help ... |
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| 19:57.39 | napjb | hi |
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| 19:58.21 | heyuxiang | which package contains the command startx ? |
| 19:58.23 | napjb | how do I get de process list from UID 501 ... I tryed ps -ef -U 501 but it wont work. |
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| 19:59.32 | izzyb | heyuxiang, apt-cache search startx, although I'm not sure you want to install it that way |
| 19:59.54 | cjae | but al lot of the info seems to be outdated-ish, is kde 4.2 still in experimental? |
| 20:00.09 | izzyb | I'd do something like apt-get install kde if you want kde desktop, it'll install everything you need :) |
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| 20:01.26 | izzyb | cjae, I think it's in lenny. do apt-cache search kde4 |
| 20:01.36 | jnewt8 | i am having a hell of a time finding a definitive guide on setting up a network with debian server at the front. i think that first off, i wan to just insert the machine between the windows server and the modem, without disrupting the traffice, and build the firewall, routing up from there. is there a guide on how to do this somewhere? |
| 20:02.08 | izzyb | cjae, you probably want something like apt-get install kde4 |
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| 20:02.21 | cjae | izzyb: sorry I don't have it installed |
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| 20:02.26 | heyuxiang | izzyb: thanks |
| 20:02.48 | heyuxiang | all i need is xorg-xinit |
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| 20:04.08 | jnewt8 | i have lenny, with two nics. this hardware should do it, but now i see 1000 examples of software, iptable setups, scripts, i need to know where to go to learn what i need in order to choose one. |
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| 20:04.43 | roast | hi |
| 20:04.47 | seria-mau | jnewt8: how complicated is your setup? |
| 20:04.52 | roast | i want to program in ihtml, a server side scripting language, but i dont see much under my debians package manager. |
| 20:05.06 | cjae | izzyb: I am thinking about moving to debian from ubuntu (ubuntu seems to hammer/release things out to quickly but I am sure you guys hear that all the time) :0 |
| 20:05.21 | seria-mau | jnewt8: if it's a home network, you maybe want to give dnsmasq and ipmasq a try |
| 20:05.23 | izzyb | jnewt8, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html I think that's the difinitive guide on linux networking, but you probably want a firewall manager something like shorewall |
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| 20:05.48 | schutzhund | real men do it with just iptables ;) |
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| 20:06.18 | jnewt8 | seria-mau: right now, it is a mess. |
| 20:06.20 | izzyb | cjae, there are pros and cons to each approach. I use debian for my servers for stability and kubuntu for my desktop for the glitter :) |
| 20:06.20 | seria-mau | s/real men/real men which have the time to learn it/ |
| 20:06.39 | seria-mau | jnewt8: not good :) |
| 20:06.45 | izzyb | although I see lenny looks good for the desktop so far :) |
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| 20:07.09 | jnewt8 | seria-mau: it is the network for my business. it has been added onto, and was never made for expansion, i need to simplify. |
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| 20:07.19 | jnewt8 | i have created a plan, would you like to hear? |
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| 20:09.28 | jnewt8 | i am going to have a debian lenny server connected to the dsl modem at the front. it will have 3 ethernet cards. one will go to the modem, one to the web/mail server, the other to the router for the internal network (wifi / lan). right now, i want to stick it into the network at the modem, without disrupting traffic. |
| 20:09.46 | jnewt8 | thats all i want to accomplish today. |
| 20:10.20 | izzyb | sounds like a basic natting firewall with a DMZ. shorewall is what I use for managing such things |
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| 20:10.29 | schutzhund | roast: why ihtml? |
| 20:10.35 | izzyb | it makes managing such things easy |
| 20:10.36 | seria-mau | jnewt8: sorry, i am not that into networking. i setup my home network with ipmasq and dnsmasq, nearly same setup as you have. cable modem <-> desktop/workstation with ipmasq/dnsmasq and 3 nics <-> LAN clients |
| 20:10.57 | godlygeek | can anyone think of a compelling argument against doing always_set_home in sudoers? i'm getting tired of accidentally having root create files in my $HOME |
| 20:11.09 | jnewt8 | izzyb: i will take a look, thanks. |
| 20:11.09 | izzyb | dnsmasq is very handy in such an environment |
| 20:11.30 | jnewt8 | izzyb: what is dnsmasq for as opposed to shorewall? |
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| 20:11.54 | seria-mau | jnewt8: a dns proxy and dhcp server |
| 20:11.58 | izzyb | dnsmasq provides dhcp services and internal dns |
| 20:12.22 | izzyb | and its smart enough to provide dns entries for machines that it hands out addresses for |
| 20:12.26 | izzyb | you'd use them both :) |
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| 20:12.49 | jnewt8 | izzyb: yeah, this windows small business server we have does that now, when it is running :( |
| 20:12.55 | seria-mau | ipmasq is fire&forget if you don't have a more complicated setup with vpn(c) |
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| 20:13.14 | roast | schutzhund: why not? |
| 20:13.16 | seria-mau | jnewt8: just look at the package descriptions |
| 20:13.28 | izzyb | if you want simple, something like leaf.sourceforge.net might be up your ally. although I've started doing my firewalls as virtual machines using kvm and simple debian systems for the virtual firewall |
| 20:13.46 | jnewt8 | seria-mau: one of the reasons we are doing this is because the vpn on the small business server is crap. i need good vpn, i have 3 guys that don't work here in the office |
| 20:13.57 | jnewt8 | i hear openVPN is good |
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| 20:14.13 | schutzhund | I'm not too familiar with it, roast, wouldn't you want to use something that, oh say, is better known and supported? |
| 20:14.50 | roast | define better |
| 20:14.54 | seria-mau | jnewt8: only vpn related thing i use is vpnc to connect to my universities internal net through a cisco box :) |
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| 20:15.56 | schutzhund | well, what are you doing with ihtml? |
| 20:16.08 | izzyb | openvpn is an ssl based vpn, which isn't nearly as good as an ipsec based solution. openswan is ipsec based and what I use. Its more complicated to setup, but security is better from what I understand |
| 20:16.12 | seria-mau | jnewt8: so i can't help you with your openvpn setup |
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| 20:16.27 | izzyb | looks for an article that explains the diff |
| 20:16.48 | jnewt8 | how do i make those comments where it shows up in purple? |
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| 20:17.01 | jnewt8 | *purple? |
| 20:17.02 | cjae | izzyb: ya I am using kubuntu right now with kde 4.2 and no major problems but everytime I try to install seem to install it with 4.2 on say g/f parents computer, lots of issues and haven't done anything different |
| 20:17.15 | schutzhund | what about ColdFusion, roast? |
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| 20:18.35 | izzyb | cjae, I've tried kde4.2 a couple of times, but sadly It still isn't a good enough replacement for my main desktop. I use too many kde3.5 features that aren't quite there yet |
| 20:18.55 | seria-mau | roast: isnt ihtml just a subset of html? then any html editor will do, i guess. |
| 20:19.07 | roast | a sub set? |
| 20:19.15 | izzyb | I use eeebuntu on my eee machine though and its kde4.2 based and I have to say its a nice setup :) |
| 20:19.16 | roast | i didnt know html has loop constructs. |
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| 20:19.41 | roast | and if statemetns |
| 20:19.51 | schutzhund | you might want to try their site, www.ihtml.com |
| 20:19.59 | jelly-hme | izzyb: is there a reference for ipsec in general being better than openvpn? |
| 20:20.04 | roast | yeah i am |
| 20:20.19 | roast | but i never knew ihtml was a subset of html |
| 20:20.20 | schutzhund | heh, I should have made that a link to either php or perl |
| 20:20.35 | seria-mau | a markup language with programm flow? wtf? |
| 20:20.49 | izzyb | jelly-hme, yeah, I read an article a while back that did an excellent job of explaining the differences, but I can't seem to find it now. too many hits of people asking the difference from google. |
| 20:21.05 | schutzhund | yeah, ihtml is crazy looking :( |
| 20:21.27 | izzyb | openvpn is kind of like using ssh as a tunnel. it works, but ipsec is better -- and more complex |
| 20:21.36 | jelly-hme | izzyb: I just wonder if it was sponsored by an ipsec vendor :-> |
| 20:21.41 | seria-mau | roast: i guess you're talking about this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHTML |
| 20:21.46 | sylarrrr | why does my epiphany stay in ps after I close it |
| 20:21.58 | schutzhund | http://webonastick.com/ihtml.html |
| 20:22.52 | izzyb | jelly-hme, it's compatible with several ipsec implementations, at least the ones that are coimpatable with the standard, sadly many ipsec venders have their own proprietary versions. cisco is tprobably the worst for that |
| 20:24.03 | seria-mau | roast: ok, nevermind. didn't know this was sth entirely different |
| 20:24.14 | jnewt8 | what do i need to do to stick this computer in between the modem and router prior to trying to limit the access with a firewall or setting up dns, dhcp, etc on it? |
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| 20:24.49 | seria-mau | though the german wikipedia forwards ihtml onto chtml |
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| 20:27.24 | CShadowRun | anyone know how to install php without apache? |
| 20:27.42 | CShadowRun | i use lighttp, i don't want apache :( |
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| 20:28.41 | izzyb | This isn't the article I was looking for, and it's a bit dated, but looks interesting -- I'm still reading it -- http://www.linux.com/feature/48330 |
| 20:29.13 | jnewt | i lost my connection an any answers that may have been given, sorry, but if anyone has any solutions for my issue, i missed them. |
| 20:29.14 | izzyb | seems to indicate openvpn is a good ssl based implementation |
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| 20:30.17 | schutzhund | CShadowRun did you try apt-get --no-install-recommends |
| 20:30.29 | izzyb | jnbes, for a basic firewall, you can do a base debian net install and add something like shorewall to manage the firewall and dnsmasq to manage the dhcp and internal dns |
| 20:30.33 | CShadowRun | schmiddy yup. |
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| 20:31.03 | izzyb | if you don't need to do dhcp and internal dns because something else is aready doing it (windows server) then you don't need that |
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| 20:31.36 | schutzhund | what about aptitude hold? |
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| 20:32.41 | izzyb | oops, jnbes that was ment for jnewt |
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| 20:33.00 | giusef | Hi all. Which package do I have to install to have my kernel headers? |
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| 20:35.00 | schutzhund | CShadowRun you could try installing php4-cgi, php4-common, then installing php4 |
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| 20:35.00 | CShadowRun | i want php5 |
| 20:35.00 | schutzhund | okay |
| 20:35.02 | CShadowRun | but yea, doing the same with php5 works |
| 20:35.05 | CShadowRun | ty :) |
| 20:35.17 | schutzhund | you're welcome |
| 20:35.28 | aetheria_ | is there any condition under which a dist-upgrade of mysql-server would cause entire db's in /var/lib/mysql to disappear? |
| 20:36.01 | izzyb | giusef, apt-cache search linux-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 20:36.31 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: a very old dpkg and /var/lib/mysq being a symlink, perhaps. |
| 20:36.43 | aetheria_ | jelly: none of those was true |
| 20:36.43 | giusef | izzyb: it returns linux-headers-2.6.28-1-686 |
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| 20:36.58 | aetheria_ | jelly: and, oddly enough, one older database i was using is still there |
| 20:37.01 | izzyb | giusef, apt-cache search linux-headers will give you a list of all the linux-headers available |
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| 20:37.21 | izzyb | giusef, oops, that should have been apt-get install |
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| 20:37.41 | aetheria_ | jelly: am looking through the mysql-server installation scripts to see if there's a section that deals with preserving existing databases, but not finding it. |
| 20:37.48 | izzyb | the uname -r part gets the correct version of the current running kernel |
| 20:37.59 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: previous and current versions of the package? |
| 20:38.24 | giusef | izzyb: well, first thank you. The second point, now, is that if I try to install the linux-headers-2.6.28-1-686 package the "Score" is -9881. What does it mean? |
| 20:38.26 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: in general mysql doesn't touch the databases much on upgrades. |
| 20:38.37 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: (unlike, say, postgres) |
| 20:38.40 | izzyb | ? |
| 20:38.41 | aetheria_ | jelly: bot v.5 of mysql-server, although it was a dist-upgrade |
| 20:39.00 | abrotman | CShadowRun: you want php5-cgi |
| 20:39.22 | izzyb | has no idea what Score refers to |
| 20:39.31 | CShadowRun | abrotman yup i got it, thanks |
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| 20:39.43 | giusef | izzyb: look: http://rafb.net/p/a9DorC72.html |
| 20:39.48 | aetheria_ | jelly-hme: i remember a debconf question a long time ago about whether you want to purge databases when removing mysql-server, however, i specifically ran dpkg-reconfigure --plow on it before hand just to see |
| 20:39.56 | m1k3 | hello guys |
| 20:39.57 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: those aren't exact versions of packages. This is a grave bug if it's caused by a package; care to pastebin your /var/log/{dpkg.log,aptitude} ? |
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| 20:40.40 | m1k3 | are the complete isos of debian 4.0r1 or r2 anywhere online? I cant find them |
| 20:40.55 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: esp. dpkg.log might be interesting, to see if there was any removal done in the middle. Did you follow the release notes procedure for dist-upgrade? Which debian release? |
| 20:41.19 | giusef | izzyb: any idea? |
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| 20:41.21 | sylarrrr | is it possible to downgrade packages? |
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| 20:41.53 | izzyb | giusef, not sure. have you done an apt-get update? |
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| 20:42.01 | giusef | izzyb: yes |
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| 20:42.12 | giusef | izzyb: I always used aptitude |
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| 20:42.24 | izzyb | this must be an aptitude thing. I don't use it usually |
| 20:42.25 | schutzhund | sylarrrr: I don't think so |
| 20:42.34 | izzyb | what does apt-get install say? |
| 20:43.02 | giusef | izzyb: http://rafb.net/p/pNvcET30.html |
| 20:43.12 | jelly-hme | aetheria_: of course, if it's not real debian or any third party packages were used, all bets are off. ;-) |
| 20:43.35 | icebrain | 2hi, I want to compile something using lua libs but in pkg-config I have to state lua5.1, but my program can build in lua5.0. Shouldn't I be able to use "pkg-config lua" ? |
| 20:43.43 | schutzhund | sylarrrr: unless, of course, you set your sources to a downgraded repository, then performing apt-get update/upgrade |
| 20:43.49 | schutzhund | I think that might work |
| 20:44.12 | izzyb | giusef, I'm not sure. what debian version are you running? |
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| 20:44.32 | giusef | izzyb: http://rafb.net/p/s7NHy516.html |
| 20:44.35 | giusef | izzyb: sid |
| 20:44.42 | schutzhund | sylarrrr: but I've never done that (only heard of it) so YMMV |
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| 20:44.45 | izzyb | hmm, this could be a sid bug |
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| 20:44.59 | sylarrrr | schutzhund, aha |
| 20:45.01 | izzyb | sid is always changing and always ends up with broken packages |
| 20:45.49 | giusef | izzyb: I see |
| 20:46.22 | schutzhund | sylarrrr: technically, I believe, you could just move the repository you want to use as a downgrader to the top of the sources list, since the first one in the sources list is always the one that is read (and used) first |
| 20:46.23 | jelly-hme | icebrain: isn't it pkg-config lua50 for 5.0? |
| 20:47.20 | schutzhund | it would be easier, I assume, to just apt-get purge the package, then installing another older package |
| 20:47.29 | izzyb | giusef, do you have a fresh install? |
| 20:47.39 | icebrain | jelly-hme: maybe, but what if I want to choose any of them? I should refer I'm trying to use PKG_CHECK_MODULES(), not exactly the command |
| 20:47.48 | maQmIgh | does anyone know how it is determined when the computer should suspend-to-disk? |
| 20:47.59 | izzyb | giusef, you might want to see if the bug has been reported yet. or just wait a few days and see if it gets cleared up. |
| 20:48.01 | schutzhund | sylarrrr: looking at man apt-get, you can do apt-get package=version-to-install |
| 20:48.13 | schutzhund | which should let you downgrade the package in question |
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| 20:48.23 | jelly-hme | icebrain: I'm clueless about that, sorry |
| 20:48.24 | giusef | izzyb: I don't have a fresh install. Probably I also have to ask a friend using sid |
| 20:48.37 | icebrain | jelly-hme: ok, thanks anyway |
| 20:48.43 | m1k3 | I'm looking for the debian distris that were vulnerable on the ssl bug last year ... details over here: http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys#head-17b824baffc5e695a4b24732ba6092e0a44d27ac |
| 20:48.53 | m1k3 | I will need it for a pentesting lab |
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| 20:49.22 | izzyb | giusef, yeah, I'd see if its just your system first. give me a sec and I'll build a virtual sid box and see if I get the same response... |
| 20:49.57 | giusef | izzyb: it would be great, thank you |
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| 20:51.04 | izzyb | giusef, k, give me a few, I have to download a netinstall cd for i386. I only have the amd64 version on hand |
| 20:51.57 | Polleke | I'm running an older gameserver binary.. but users start to complain about server lag after a about a week of usage. The lag is not solved after a restart of the gameserver. A full system restart does solve it. What could this possibly be? |
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| 20:52.20 | guk | what game ? |
| 20:52.34 | Polleke | An old one. C&C Renegade |
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| 20:53.02 | guk | but a system restart fixes it .... hmm ... have you watched the memory levels of all your process's and whatnot ... |
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| 20:53.13 | \amethyst | Polleke: is it a Linux program or is it running under Wine? |
| 20:53.22 | guk | maybe it's tied into something else that's all bloating up via memory leak or something ... but restarting the bin wouldn't restart the child process |
| 20:53.33 | Kuifje111 | which bittorrent client do you believe is the best for a headless pc, transmission, rtorrent or something else? |
| 20:53.37 | guk | well not even a child process but the friend |
| 20:53.53 | Polleke | guk, yes.. nothing abnormal. \amethyst, it's a native elf binary |
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| 20:54.24 | riot | how do i install custom xfonts? I've put the pcf.gz-files into /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc but even after a reboot they do not appear anywhere :( |
| 20:54.26 | Polleke | guk, as far as I know there are no child processes. Should they all show up with ps aux? |
| 20:54.53 | izzyb | giusef, why are you running sid btw? |
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| 20:55.16 | guk | ps axf can give you some more information on what it's spawning |
| 20:56.26 | Polleke | guk, nothing. SHould be noted that the game binary is running in a wrapped perl script. But the perl script doesn't actually interfere with the client connections |
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| 20:56.54 | guk | im not sure then ive never delt with such game ... maybe try to find some more support else where ? |
| 20:57.24 | \amethyst | riot: bitmapped fonts are disabled by default... /usr/share/doc/fontconfig/README.Debian tells you how to enable them |
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| 20:58.28 | Polleke | guk, there is absolutely none. So I'm more wondering if anyone here would have any idea what might interfere with either the process or the udp connections on a debian system |
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| 20:59.19 | sylarrrr | schutzhund, ok, I am considering downgrading epiphany |
| 20:59.19 | guk | maybe someone else does ... but I don't ... sorry dude ... I wouldn't even know where to start ... check to see your open connections ... ??? maybe it's keeping them open with too long of a timeout ... im not sure ... :/ |
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| 21:02.25 | giusef | izzyb: I am running sid because I'd like to have the latest version of the software |
| 21:03.04 | riot | whats the correct syntax to tell dpkg-reconfigure to ask all questions? -p low? |
| 21:03.12 | sylarrrr | anyone know about sound in epiphany flash? |
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| 21:03.28 | sylarrrr | is flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound instead or in addition to flashplugin-nonfree ? |
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| 21:04.23 | jnewt2 | damn, lost connection again, everytime i ask a question. |
| 21:04.25 | \amethyst | sylarrrr: in addition to... it depends on flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:04.56 | riot | why does dpkg-reconfigure _never_ ask me any questions? Regardless of the -priority parameter?? |
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| 21:05.40 | abrotman | riot: maybe there are none to ask ? |
| 21:06.30 | riot | abrotman: uh, nah, on another box it asks tons of questions (as i requested) |
| 21:06.53 | \amethyst | riot: what does debconf-show debconf say about the priority and frontend? |
| 21:07.35 | riot | dialog / low |
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| 21:07.52 | \amethyst | riot: sounds right.... odd |
| 21:07.52 | riot | though i reset that just a few secs ago just to make sure |
| 21:07.58 | riot | hmm. |
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| 21:08.32 | sylarrrr | \amethyst, thanks |
| 21:08.33 | riot | i'm gonna watch this more closely from now on.. odd, yes |
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| 21:09.04 | sylarrrr | anyone know why I get no sound in youtube flash in epiphany with flash10 and esd? |
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| 21:10.29 | schutzhund | sylarrrr: sorry, doing homework |
| 21:10.31 | izzyb | giusef, I get the same problem with a fresh sid install so this is a broken package in sid. |
| 21:10.44 | FlyingFoX-XIII | how do configure a specific dns server to be used? |
| 21:10.45 | gynterk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:10.54 | giusef | izzyb: oh bad |
| 21:10.57 | gynterk | I can manually rmmod & modprobe it |
| 21:11.04 | izzyb | giusef, I'd check to see if its been reported and wait for the fix to come out. |
| 21:11.05 | schutzhund | I have always had problems with epiphany for everything, stopped using it |
| 21:11.06 | MrWax | hi |
| 21:11.08 | gynterk | but after restart debian uses old |
| 21:11.34 | MrWax | with 'cat file | head -20' one can get the first 20 results of a text file, is there also a way to display result 21-40 for example? |
| 21:11.40 | giusef | izzyb: could you link me that bug, if it does exist? |
| 21:11.58 | izzyb | giusef, as a general rule, you don't want to run sid for this very reason. You're better off with stable with backports or testing |
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| 21:13.48 | izzyb | giusef, I have to admit, I've never posted a bug for debian, so I'm not familiar with the process, but here's a link to get you started: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 21:13.58 | MatBoy | does someone know how I get the xferlog of proftpd into a fifo file ? |
| 21:14.03 | riot | \amethyst: hmmm, doesn't help. The fonts still don't show up. |
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| 21:14.52 | \amethyst | riot: hm... then I'm not sure... :( |
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| 21:15.47 | adb | FlyingFoX: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ? |
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| 21:18.59 | sylarrrr | anyone know why epiphany use alsa when it should use esd? |
| 21:19.38 | giusef | izzyb: ok thank you |
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| 21:20.27 | gewt | does http://www.gewt.net:8009/samples work for you? |
| 21:21.47 | Lord | gewt > no it doesn't |
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| 21:22.39 | gewt | http://gewt.net/samples/ |
| 21:22.41 | gewt | that works. |
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| 21:22.49 | Lord | yes ;-) |
| 21:23.30 | gewt | bbl dinner |
| 21:23.43 | sylarrrr | does anyone know how to set sound to go through esd? |
| 21:23.51 | sylarrrr | in epiphany? |
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| 21:24.12 | blade | hi all |
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| 21:25.44 | abrotman | sylarrrr: you might want to look at libalsa-esd0 or whatever it is |
| 21:25.57 | blade | can someone help me ? i hafe a problem with aptitude i during a install my laptop goes OFF and now if i try to use apt-get install i become an error messagge |
| 21:26.35 | blade | dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem |
| 21:26.35 | dpkg | You are moron #1, blade |
| 21:27.05 | dkr | dpkg: botsnack |
| 21:27.05 | dpkg | dkr: aw, gee |
| 21:27.37 | dkr | blade: so have you tried running the command to correct it? |
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| 21:27.46 | blade | yes |
| 21:27.50 | sylarrrr | abrotman, is alsa using the hardware sound card? |
| 21:28.28 | abrotman | as opposed to the fictional one? |
| 21:28.37 | izzyb | giusef, np. sorry I can't offer anything more... |
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| 21:28.59 | sylarrrr | abrotman, yes, with esd I use sound over network in several terminals |
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| 21:30.45 | sylarrrr | gona eat some brains |
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| 21:35.04 | gynterk | how to delete network interface? |
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| 21:38.44 | izzyb | gynterk, delete it? |
| 21:38.47 | xoz | gynterk: ifconfig eth0 down |
| 21:39.02 | gynterk | but ip link show still shows it |
| 21:39.08 | gynterk | also ifconfig -a |
| 21:40.02 | izzyb | gynterk, why do you need to delete it? |
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| 21:40.42 | izzyb | gynterk, short of unloading the module, I'm not sure you can |
| 21:41.49 | izzyb | gynterk, are you trying to change the order of network devices? |
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| 21:42.02 | gynterk | no |
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| 21:42.07 | gynterk | i have a problem with xen |
| 21:42.12 | gynterk | on debian only |
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| 21:42.49 | izzyb | ah, ic. I never got xen working myself and switched to kvm which was far easier. I may try gain some day, but for now, kvm does everything I ask of it :) |
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| 21:44.10 | maher | with exim you can check where email will be delivered with exim -bt foo@example.com - is there a similar command with postfix? |
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| 21:44.34 | Polarina | Which CD images do I have to download if I want just the base system along with a desktop environment (the checkbox option during installation)? |
| 21:44.45 | abrotman | any of them |
| 21:44.54 | abrotman | maher: #postifx ? |
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| 21:46.30 | abrotman | #postfix even |
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| 21:48.05 | gynterk | hm |
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| 21:48.35 | gynterk | izzyb, but which to prefer KVM or Xen for virtual private server hosting? |
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| 21:51.30 | Nagumi | alguien habla español ? |
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| 21:53.11 | Nagumi | habla alguién aca español ? |
| 21:53.16 | abrotman | !es |
| 21:53.16 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:53.42 | Polarina | !eo |
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| 21:53.46 | Nagumi | es que todos ahi son bastantes groseros |
| 21:53.47 | Polarina | dpkg: :( |
| 21:53.47 | dpkg | ) |
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| 21:54.05 | sylarrr | how do I play midi files? |
| 21:54.39 | Polarina | sylarrr: Install timidity. |
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| 21:55.31 | m-1-k-3 | is there no possibility to download the full images of old debian releases? I have not found the images! are there any other servers with the old images available? |
| 21:55.58 | dMaggot | hi guys, can anybody give me some help with VSFTPd on Debian Lenny? it's completely ignoring chrooting instructions |
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| 21:56.21 | abrotman | !tell m-1-k-3 about cd archive |
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| 22:01.18 | MegafEee | windows is absolutely ridiculous |
| 22:01.36 | MegafEee | i cant run one software on windows but i can via wine on Linux |
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| 22:02.35 | m-1-k-3 | on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ i just can find the netinstall and business images |
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| 22:03.07 | JoSSeTeSERVER | lol |
| 22:03.16 | JoSSeTeSERVER | wine rulez |
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| 22:03.41 | theholyduck | meh. there is only 1 windows software remotly worth running anyway |
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| 22:04.46 | Polarina | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/ (will this automatically install x86_64 instead of x86 if the CPU supports it?) |
| 22:05.18 | JoSSeTeSERVER | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.21 | JoSSeTeSERVER | both |
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| 22:05.33 | Polarina | JoSSeTeSERVER: What do you mean it will install both? |
| 22:05.57 | JoSSeTeSERVER | no, sorry my english is very bad jeje |
| 22:06.08 | nIl\ | why does eclipse on lenny fail? |
| 22:06.20 | JoSSeTeSERVER | you choose in instalation I thing |
| 22:06.30 | JoSSeTeSERVER | 64 or 32 |
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| 22:06.33 | Polarina | JoSSeTeSERVER: Ok. |
| 22:06.40 | MegafEee | m-1-k-3, http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 22:07.38 | m-1-k-3 | on this url are just netinstalls available and I look for the whole images |
| 22:08.14 | MegafEee | m-1-k-3, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 22:08.16 | abrotman | !tell m-1-k-3 about cd archive |
| 22:08.22 | MegafEee | there you got business and netinst |
| 22:08.35 | abrotman | m-1-k-3: what specifically are oyu looking for? |
| 22:08.58 | m-1-k-3 | I have |
| 22:09.09 | m-1-k-3 | for 4.0r1 or r2 |
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| 22:09.48 | Kuifje111 | i ran a ./configure twice, because it had given me an error about i package i didnt have, could this have caused any problems? |
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| 22:10.12 | Quibus | Hi all |
| 22:10.25 | Quibus | Small question about the "Why is package X not in testing yet?" |
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| 22:10.47 | Quibus | If it says something like this: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=openmsx-catapult |
| 22:11.14 | Quibus | That's part of Explanation 1, right? So, they need manual hinting? |
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| 22:12.17 | m-1-k-3 | I look for a release of etch which is vulnerable to the ssl bug reported last year CVE-2008-0166 |
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| 22:17.08 | dondelelcaro | m-1-k-3: those packages are on snapshot.debian.org |
| 22:18.59 | Quibus | good night |
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| 22:19.51 | izzyb | gynterk, from what I understand, xen still has some performance advantages even on a host with hardware virtualization support, but kvm is catching up with things like virtio. |
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| 22:20.03 | omry | how do I disable ipv6? |
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| 22:20.45 | izzyb | gynterk, if you don't have hardware virtualization support, xen is the only option |
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| 22:21.32 | izzyb | runs away for a while... |
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| 22:22.28 | jerng | omry: in general or for specific programs? |
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| 22:23.09 | omry | jerng, I saw that I can blacklist ipv6 module to disable in general. how do I disable for a specific program? |
| 22:23.33 | m-1-k-3 | so there are no more images of the whole distribution available? |
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| 22:24.04 | abrotman | you don't need them |
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| 22:24.15 | Jemt | Hi. I'm unable to switch between displays on all of my laptops using the usual Fn+F7 key combination (2 Acers, 1 IBM Thinkpad X31) since I installed Lenny. Is this a bug? I'm able to switch between the laptop monitor and the external monitor when I'm wihin the BIOS, when GRUB is showing, even while the kernel is booting - but when the root partition is mounted, and services are being started, I suddently don't have the ability to change display |
| 22:24.15 | Jemt | anymore. Instead ^@ is written on the screen when pressing the key combination Fn+F7. Is this a bug? I have asked in here a few times, but no one seems to know the answer. I'm not necessary looking for a solution - to begin with I would like to know if anyone else is expirencing this problem too. |
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| 22:24.23 | jerng | omry: for some program there are specific parameters, (for example: 'ssh -4 ...') |
| 22:24.51 | omry | jerng, oh. okay. I thought that was some generic way |
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| 22:28.26 | cjae | izzyb: sorry I have to go see about a job but back to what ubuntu has got very strange, I seems to detect hard drives in the wrong order now, eg. windows on ide 0 (pata) master and ubuntu on (sata) should be win = /dev/sda/ and lin =/dev/sdb but ubuntu switches them backwards eg. /dev/sdb =win and /dev/sda which I cannot reproduce with etch or slack 12.2 |
| 22:28.53 | cjae | -have + had |
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| 22:29.50 | designs703 | Why is it insecure to have insecure items (images, etc.) on an SSL-secured website, other than the lack of assurance that 100% of transactions are encrypted? |
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| 22:30.25 | designs703 | Do unsecured items provide an opening to intercept data in transit? |
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| 22:32.28 | sylarrr | what's up with lenny? |
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| 22:33.10 | sylarrr | I have xkilled the desktop and it doesnt come up again |
| 22:33.10 | sylarrr | damn |
| 22:33.26 | sylarrr | what is the command that runs the desktop/taskbars? |
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| 22:35.40 | mreiss_ | what windows manager are you using? |
| 22:35.47 | mreiss_ | default in debian would be /etc/init.d/gdm start |
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| 22:36.15 | mreiss_ | or restart to make gdm do its magic and make the desktop reappear |
| 22:36.24 | mreiss_ | (as in, gdm restart) |
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| 22:38.31 | adama | sylarrr: nautilus and gnome-panel |
| 22:38.53 | gynterk | any ideas why my debian doesn't modprobe right e1000e module on boot? |
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| 22:39.27 | adama | gynterk: put it in /etc/modules ? |
| 22:39.37 | gynterk | i have, thats the point |
| 22:39.59 | gynterk | it reads some old 3.3.x version but if i do rmmod and modprobe then it reads 5.x version |
| 22:40.05 | adama | does dmesg have anything to say about it? |
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| 22:40.34 | gynterk | e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 0.3.3.3-k2 |
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| 22:40.47 | sylarrr | adama, that doesn't work |
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| 22:41.09 | gynterk | e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 0.5.11.2-NAPI this is manually loaded |
| 22:41.42 | gynterk | and no errors |
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| 22:49.31 | kitoko | good :) |
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| 22:50.08 | adama | gynterk: well I dunno... there is probably some way to specify the version to load? Or maybe you can delete the old version |
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| 22:50.44 | adama | sylarrr: does /etc/init.d/gdm work? or kdm or xdm |
| 22:50.55 | adama | err with restart on that command |
| 22:51.09 | adama | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 22:51.17 | adama | or with xdm or kdm instead of gdm |
| 22:51.21 | gynterk | the odd thing is that there is no old version |
| 22:51.33 | gynterk | it was overwritte in drivers/net |
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| 22:52.52 | adama | weird |
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| 22:55.48 | sylarrr | adama, gdm is ok |
| 22:55.52 | tsb | Is it possible to require publickey-authentication from SOME but not all users? |
| 22:56.02 | sylarrr | adama, but I connect via remote X |
| 22:57.00 | \amethyst | tsb: set their password field in /etc/shadow to '!' |
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| 22:57.59 | adama | tsb: yes disable their password |
| 22:58.41 | tsb | ah, thanks. |
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| 23:05.43 | sylarrr | adama, but even in the console the taskbars don't come back |
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| 23:10.25 | Samuel-NotAFK | My system clock keeps going forwards into the future. |
| 23:10.32 | nareshov | oh wow |
| 23:10.45 | Samuel-NotAFK | It's begun occurring ever since I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze. |
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| 23:11.06 | Samuel-NotAFK | It's about 15 minutes in the future now. |
| 23:11.10 | nareshov | !ntp |
| 23:11.10 | dpkg | somebody said ntp was the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig or 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata', first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 23:11.22 | Samuel-NotAFK | nareshov: ntp and ntpdate are installed and configured |
| 23:11.34 | Samuel-NotAFK | nareshov: I'm using the correct time zone. |
| 23:11.36 | nareshov | !ticks |
| 23:11.42 | nareshov | hm |
| 23:13.14 | Samuel-NotAFK | I'm going to replace ntp with openntpd because I'm so desperate. |
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| 23:14.46 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: adjtimex -p; |
| 23:14.58 | Polarina | Samuel-NotAFK: It's called clock drift. You can search for that. |
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| 23:15.45 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: you'll probably find that tick and freq are way out of wack. Set tick to 10000, freq to 0, and kill off /etc/adjtime |
| 23:16.06 | Samuel-NotAFK | adjtimex is not installed |
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| 23:16.49 | karsten | Samuel-NotAFK: Install it if you need it. |
| 23:17.06 | Samuel-NotAFK | karsten: Do I need it? |
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| 23:18.13 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: install it to see what values it's got configured |
| 23:18.22 | Samuel-NotAFK | Comparing clocks (this will take 70 sec)...done. |
| 23:18.28 | Samuel-NotAFK | Adjusting system time by -1741.31 sec/day to agree with CMOS clock...done. |
| 23:18.33 | Samuel-NotAFK | WOW |
| 23:18.37 | adama | wow |
| 23:18.40 | Samuel-NotAFK | 1741 seconds drift a day! |
| 23:18.43 | Samuel-NotAFK | WTF? |
| 23:18.53 | \amethyst | is this a virtual machine? |
| 23:19.02 | Samuel-NotAFK | \amethyst: No. |
| 23:19.03 | tommyd | evening all |
| 23:19.14 | adama | what hardware? |
| 23:19.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | tommyd: good evening. |
| 23:19.29 | Samuel-NotAFK | adama: Eee PC 901 |
| 23:19.34 | epsilon | low cmoc battery sth? |
| 23:19.43 | adama | ahhh yeah I have a 701 and the clock goes off all the time |
| 23:19.47 | Samuel-NotAFK | I've dpkg-reconfigured ntp to get the clock set right again but I've done this a few times now. |
| 23:19.49 | adama | ntpd helps |
| 23:20.17 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: that part isn't so important. What we need to see is what adjtimex -p; outputs. |
| 23:20.23 | Samuel-NotAFK | adama: This problem only started happening when I upgraded to Squeeze. |
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| 23:20.45 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: odds are you've got it set to something invalid, and it's getting out of whack faster than ntpd can correct it |
| 23:20.50 | tommyd | allow me to ask an easy question in between - about a package configuration for the specific mysql package which installs /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 23:20.52 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m39d1b224 |
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| 23:21.31 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: start by setting adjtimex -t 10000 -f 0; and see if that helps matters. |
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| 23:21.40 | \amethyst | tommyd: apt-file search /etc/mysql/my.cnf # => mysql-common |
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| 23:21.49 | tommyd | I see, thanks |
| 23:21.57 | karsten | Samuel-NotAFK: Oyou're asking me? |
| 23:21.58 | karsten | samJust elling you that if you need something and it's not installed -- install it. |
| 23:22.35 | doudou | Hi, have installed debian, i need to use another kernel, i compiled my kernel from another computer and boot it to run with my previous debian install, but seems that some problems |
| 23:23.09 | tommyd | what I'm wondering is, why did nobody created a symlink from /etc/my.cnf to this file - given the fact that most mysql cli binaries do *not* look into /etc/mysql/my.cnf until 5.1 at all?! |
| 23:23.41 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: Done. |
| 23:23.42 | dondelelcaro | tommyd: uh... all of the ones that Debian distributes do |
| 23:23.53 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: that may not solve your problem completely, but it's the first step |
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| 23:24.01 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: restart ntpd, and see what happens |
| 23:24.06 | Samuel-NotAFK | Okay. |
| 23:24.09 | tommyd | I just spend half an hour wondering why a specific option for mysqldump wasn't picked up from /etc/mysql/my.cnf, just to see the strace that it doesn't look for the file |
| 23:24.29 | dondelelcaro | tommyd: then you're not using a mysqldump that is distributed by Debian. |
| 23:24.35 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: Nothing: My time has stayed correctly set. |
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| 23:24.53 | tommyd | dondelelcaro: so the symlink _should_ be there? |
| 23:25.03 | tommyd | or should it work with /etc/mysql/my.cnf? |
| 23:25.23 | dondelelcaro | tommyd: if you're using Debian's mysqldump, it reads /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 23:25.34 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: Will my clock stop drifting into the future now? |
| 23:25.43 | tommyd | ok, thanks for the info - I guess I have to switch my package source then |
| 23:25.48 | nan8 | anybody knows a quick way to format nice "text-mode/fixed-width char" tables using utf-8 chars? i thought about using html+lynx/links/w3m - but maybe troff/tbl is faster/easier? |
| 23:26.06 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: can't say; it's at least more likely to work |
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| 23:26.30 | Seth_Hikaru | Is there a way to install Debian and have it install vnc and configure itself with a password and send the ip address to a computer? |
| 23:26.31 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: How often does ntp sort out my time? |
| 23:26.40 | Seth_Hikaru | Using net install of course. |
| 23:26.45 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: it slews it pretty continuously |
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| 23:26.57 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: I don't remember exactly how often it queries the timeservers |
| 23:27.03 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: Then how come it allowed my clock to drift far into the future? |
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| 23:27.14 | doudou | why linux does not work on a computer without clock? |
| 23:27.47 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: it has sanity checks, and won't try to correct a clock that is going haywire, figuring that the clock is actually right, and something is wrong with ntp |
| 23:27.47 | Seth_Hikaru | Did anyone see my question? |
| 23:28.01 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: yes |
| 23:28.06 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: Ah |
| 23:28.16 | Seth_Hikaru | Are you able to answer it? |
| 23:28.22 | nan8 | just found libtext-formattable-perl |
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| 23:28.35 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: you can do that all using preseeding, though it'd already be completely installed by the time vnc was installed. |
| 23:28.48 | Seth_Hikaru | Let me explain. |
| 23:28.54 | dondelelcaro | doudou: because it's important to know what time it is to do almost anything |
| 23:28.58 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm installing this on a server with no monitor. |
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| 23:29.15 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: so use a serial console? |
| 23:29.24 | Seth_Hikaru | Which is? |
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| 23:29.44 | dondelelcaro | uh... if a server doesn't have a serial console, and it doesn't have a monitor, you've got problems. |
| 23:29.51 | Seth_Hikaru | No. |
| 23:30.00 | Seth_Hikaru | It has a serial port and vga port, |
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| 23:30.12 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: so plug a monitor in to do the initial install |
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| 23:30.23 | Seth_Hikaru | I just can't hook a monitor up to it because I am not going to buy they conversion cables. |
| 23:30.30 | Seth_Hikaru | the* |
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| 23:30.54 | \amethyst | you don't have a monitor with VGA in? |
| 23:31.00 | Seth_Hikaru | Nope. |
| 23:31.04 | Seth_Hikaru | DVI . |
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| 23:31.23 | abrotman | the monitor is dvi only? |
| 23:31.27 | Seth_Hikaru | Yep. |
| 23:31.36 | abrotman | and it didn't come with an adapter? |
| 23:31.45 | Seth_Hikaru | And I'm not buying the cables to convert it unless I have no options left. |
| 23:31.48 | Seth_Hikaru | No it didn't. |
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| 23:31.48 | maher | do i actually need exim4-config installed to run exim? i don't seem to be able to get it to do the etch -> lenny upgrade without trashing my config... |
| 23:32.11 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: and your server doesn't have a serial console option in the bios? how do you plan to configure the bios or anything? |
| 23:32.23 | Seth_Hikaru | What the hell is a serial console? |
| 23:32.32 | nan8 | hmm libtext-formattable-perl is basically ascii only |
| 23:32.33 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: a console. On the serial port. |
| 23:32.34 | \amethyst | it's where you plug in a terminal to the serial port |
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| 23:32.45 | Seth_Hikaru | Your not helping. |
| 23:32.51 | \amethyst | where a terminal could be a machine running, e.g., miniterm, connected with a null-modem cable |
| 23:33.18 | \amethyst | or it could be a real serial terminal device, but that's going to be more expensive than a VGA-to-DVI-A adapter |
| 23:33.37 | \amethyst | for that matter, a null-modem cable is probably going to be more expensive |
| 23:33.49 | abrotman | make your own! :) |
| 23:33.50 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: what part of it isn't clear? It's a console that runs on the serial port instead of using vga or similar |
| 23:34.02 | Seth_Hikaru | Okay. |
| 23:34.08 | Seth_Hikaru | But how do I connect it? |
| 23:34.08 | dondelelcaro | null modem cables are pretty cheap |
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| 23:34.13 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: with a serial cable |
| 23:34.20 | Seth_Hikaru | No shit. |
| 23:34.35 | dondelelcaro | ... |
| 23:34.48 | Seth_Hikaru | What do I connect it too? |
| 23:35.03 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: a terminal, or a machine with a terminal emulator. |
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| 23:35.14 | \amethyst | you connect the serial port on this machine to a terminal, or to the serial port on another machine |
| 23:35.23 | Seth_Hikaru | so. |
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| 23:35.38 | abrotman | so, really, buy the adapter :) |
| 23:35.41 | Seth_Hikaru | Is there any gpl or free programs which emulate a terminal? |
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| 23:35.51 | \amethyst | minicom would be one |
| 23:36.00 | Seth_Hikaru | is it gpl? |
| 23:36.04 | dondelelcaro | but if this part isn't already terribly obvious, you probably should start doing some rudimentary reading in administration of unix machiens |
| 23:36.21 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: yes, and it's in debian |
| 23:36.25 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: its DFSG compliant, and distributed in Debian. screen is another alternative. |
| 23:36.31 | Seth_Hikaru | AHHHH. |
| 23:37.25 | Seth_Hikaru | Genius if the server I am install Debian on doesn't have a viable way to connect to a monitor how would I use the terminal emulator on there? |
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| 23:37.38 | Samuel-NotAFK | Can anyone tell me the exact time? |
| 23:37.40 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: you have it running on another machine? |
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| 23:37.48 | Seth_Hikaru | Have what? |
| 23:37.49 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: this is your only computer? |
| 23:37.53 | Seth_Hikaru | No. |
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| 23:37.56 | abrotman | Seth_Hikaru: genius .. you use the terminal emulator on a client machine |
| 23:37.58 | dondelelcaro | Fri Mar 13 23:37:57 UTC 2009 |
| 23:37.59 | Seth_Hikaru | This is my windows computer. |
| 23:38.11 | adama | Samuel-NotAFK: 1236987487 |
| 23:38.12 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: then use a terminal emulator on windows |
| 23:38.24 | Seth_Hikaru | The server will be receiving Debian. |
| 23:38.27 | abrotman | Seth_Hikaru: i htink hyperterminal can connect ot a serial connection |
| 23:38.27 | \amethyst | putty can do serial ports |
| 23:38.35 | Seth_Hikaru | Hmmm. |
| 23:38.35 | abrotman | (if it's still in windows) |
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| 23:38.42 | adama | Seth_Hikaru: yes hyperterminal on windows |
| 23:38.42 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: arghhh it's still happening |
| 23:38.47 | Seth_Hikaru | if what's still in windows? |
| 23:38.54 | adama | hyperterminal |
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| 23:39.07 | Seth_Hikaru | yes it still is. |
| 23:39.12 | Seth_Hikaru | But I prefer putty. |
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| 23:39.27 | Seth_Hikaru | So can I use an ip address instead of using a serial cable? |
| 23:39.38 | Seth_Hikaru | and do it over network? |
| 23:39.41 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: it's possible, but it takes some work to set up |
| 23:39.46 | Seth_Hikaru | Like? |
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| 23:39.55 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: you have to create a preseed file and point the installer at that |
| 23:40.04 | Jemt | Hi. I'm unable to switch between displays on all of my laptops using the usual Fn+F7 key combination (2 Acers, 1 IBM Thinkpad X31) since I installed Lenny. Is this a bug? I'm able to switch between the laptop monitor and the external monitor when I'm wihin the BIOS, when GRUB is showing, even while the kernel is booting - but when the root partition is mounted, and services are being started, I suddently don't have the ability to change display |
| 23:40.07 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: it helps if your network has DHCP, though that's not strictly necessary |
| 23:40.09 | Jemt | anymore. Instead ^@ is written on the screen when pressing the key combination Fn+F7. Is this a bug? I have asked in here a few times, but no one seems to know the answer. I'm not necessary looking for a solution - to begin with I would like to know if anyone else is expirencing this problem too. |
| 23:40.11 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apb.html |
| 23:40.25 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: see what adjtimex -p; outputs, and check out what ntpq -c lopeers; says |
| 23:40.26 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: network console is in B.4.3 but you'll need the stuff before that too |
| 23:40.29 | maher | so when eximconf makes a .dpkg-old file in conf.d/ update-exim4.conf also cats it into the config... |
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| 23:40.42 | Samuel-NotAFK | My time is still drifting into the future. |
| 23:41.07 | dondelelcaro | err, s/Seth_Hikaru/Samuel-NotAFK/ |
| 23:41.18 | ajavid | hi |
| 23:41.44 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m65e5eef9 |
| 23:41.56 | Seth_Hikaru | hold on for a sec please |
| 23:42.09 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m5145fe1a |
| 23:43.24 | Seth_Hikaru | ok. |
| 23:43.29 | Seth_Hikaru | Let me explain. |
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| 23:44.01 | Seth_Hikaru | The server I am installing Debian on has no operating system on it. It was used and had no harddrive. |
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| 23:44.08 | Seth_Hikaru | It's a IBM. |
| 23:44.24 | Seth_Hikaru | It has a management lan port. |
| 23:44.35 | Seth_Hikaru | But I haven't really looked into what it does. |
| 23:44.56 | maher | i was lying - it just gives you an error anyway... |
| 23:45.12 | abrotman | a lights out card ? |
| 23:45.18 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: ok. run /etc/init.d/ntpd stop; rm /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift; /etc/init.d/ntpd start; and then keep an eye on the output of ntpq -c lopeers; if you see the offset getting larger and larger (absolute value), your clock is drifting off into the future. |
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| 23:46.03 | Seth_Hikaru | So is there a way to access it with serial via an ip address using putty without installing an operating system on it? |
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| 23:47.26 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: if that keeps happening, then stop ntpd, rerun adjtimexconfig; and then try restarting ntpd and see what happens |
| 23:47.31 | jnewt | hello, if i put my ethernet card config in the /etc/network/interfaces , will that be applied upon an ifconfig eth0 up command? |
| 23:47.38 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: depends on the management port |
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| 23:47.54 | dondelelcaro | Seth_Hikaru: depends on the management port. The documentation of that machine should explain how to do it |
| 23:48.10 | dondelelcaro | (I know ilo cards can do it) |
| 23:48.10 | nan8 | now uses: showtable -titles=1 -html -d " " -attributes=BORDER=1 |w3m -T text/html -dump |
| 23:48.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: bash: /etc/init.d/ntpd: No such file or directory |
| 23:48.46 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: err, it's /etc/init.d/ntp, not ntpd |
| 23:49.02 | Seth_Hikaru | ok |
| 23:49.37 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: I was just doing what you said. |
| 23:50.27 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m1f16e039 |
| 23:51.06 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: This doesn't really mean much to me. :( |
| 23:51.25 | jnewt | maybe that would be the wrong question. where should i save all of my network settings so that they will run upon startup of the computer / nic / something so i know what i have done as i am trying to make them work. |
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| 23:52.01 | \amethyst | jnewt: it won't be applied on ifconfig eth0 up, but will be on ifup eth0 |
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| 23:52.37 | \amethyst | jnewt: if you want it to happen on boot, make sure you have auto eth0 before the configuration stanza |
| 23:52.51 | jnewt | ok, for the nameserver, do i have to put in resolv.conf, or can i put into interfaces? |
| 23:53.02 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: What do you think? |
| 23:53.13 | \amethyst | jnewt: do you use DHCP on your network? |
| 23:53.44 | jnewt | \amethyst: i have destroyed my network today. i will, hopefully |
| 23:54.06 | jnewt | i need to get one internet connection up right now, i am running on the neighbors wireless. |
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| 23:54.52 | jnewt | i have the linux box connected via ethernet to the dsl modem, and cant get the nameserver to point to the ip of the modem. |
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| 23:55.59 | jnewt | resolv.conf always shows 192.168.1.110, i need 192.168.1.254, but i put that in the interfaces file and it won't change. |
| 23:56.09 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: the key thing is the offset; that tells you how far that clock source is off from yours |
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| 23:56.14 | dondelelcaro | Samuel-NotAFK: they should all be near 0 |
| 23:56.19 | \amethyst | jnewt: is it set up for DHCP right now? |
| 23:56.54 | \amethyst | jnewt: I mean, is the interfaces stanza 'inet dhcp' or 'inet static' ? |
| 23:57.39 | jnewt | i have it set to go to static in interfaces, which would be fine, thats how the old win server was (i think?) |
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| 23:57.47 | Samuel-NotAFK | dondelelcaro: So how do I fix it? |
| 23:57.59 | jnewt | but i can't verify if it is being applied. |
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| 23:59.10 | \amethyst | jnewt: try editing resolv.conf then |
| 23:59.14 | jnewt | oh, it says too few parameters for iface line when i do ifup... |
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| 23:59.34 | \amethyst | jnewt: if it's static you need at least the address and the netmask |
| 23:59.48 | \amethyst | jnewt: perhaps you could pastebin your interfaces |
| 23:59.53 | jnewt | don't i need the gateway too. |