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| 00:00.27 | varney | \amethyst, jpinx: ok thanks, but now i'm not seeing the docs on how to migrate, i'm navigating from one page to the next here: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf under part 1 of the section entitled "Installing the Etch-And-A-Half release" |
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| 00:00.44 | varney | it doesn't lead to how to migrate to the new kernel |
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| 00:02.08 | varney | it only leads to the 'etch installation page' |
| 00:02.19 | varney | but how am i supposed to migrate - am i missing something here? |
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| 00:02.32 | adb | !etch->lenny |
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| 00:02.46 | jpinx | varney: you have to decide if you are installing or upgrading |
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| 00:03.06 | adb | no he is reding only ... |
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| 00:03.15 | adb | reading |
| 00:03.17 | varney | well i already have etch installed |
| 00:03.35 | varney | you already told me how to install etch-and a half |
| 00:03.48 | jpinx | varney: then you are not installing- you are upgrading |
| 00:03.51 | varney | but i want to update to etch-and-a-half kernel from etch |
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| 00:04.13 | varney | jpinx: ok, so let me ask, how do i upgrade then? |
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| 00:04.19 | jpinx | varney: aptitude install <new kernel> |
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| 00:04.59 | varney | i tried aptitute install linux-image-<>-686 but it always downloads v18 as the latest |
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| 00:06.08 | varney | are you sure aptitude install linux-image-2.6.24-686 will work? |
| 00:06.18 | varney | just asking before i boot into etch again |
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| 00:07.13 | jpinx | varney: it'sa while since I did it, but I seem to remember that I installed the new kernel and then re-configured grub |
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| 00:08.30 | jpinx | when you install the newer kernel aptitude will look after dependencies |
| 00:08.39 | akio | chickita pow weww |
| 00:08.43 | jpinx | if it wasn't easy I would not have done it |
| 00:08.48 | jpinx | ;) |
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| 00:08.57 | varney | pfft |
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| 00:09.06 | varney | ok i suppose trying can't hurt much :| |
| 00:09.19 | varney | thanks for the help to those who deserve it ;) |
| 00:09.30 | varney | one step at a time, but very small steps :| |
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| 00:10.06 | jpinx | varney: me too ;) |
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| 00:10.19 | akio | I was wondering if anyone off hand has installed lenny on a 2nd gen iMac? |
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| 00:10.57 | akio | I'm rockin the framebuffer casue X hates it |
| 00:11.58 | akio | It's an ATI Rage Pro lmao |
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| 00:14.15 | Texou | hi :D |
| 00:14.33 | Texou | has someone installed skype on a linux 64bits? |
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| 00:17.24 | khaije1_ | what do you guys use for simple audio editing? |
| 00:17.27 | JohnDoy | I'm getting SNMP error: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libnetsnmpagent.so.15: undefined symbol: boot_DynaLoader, On Ubuntu 8.04 Server. Can annybody help me ? |
| 00:18.16 | adb | ask #ubuntu |
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| 00:19.29 | ctx144k | anyone knows a webpage/howto to change lenny from UTF8 to ISO8859-15 ? |
| 00:19.49 | Gun_Smoke | dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 00:19.53 | ctx144k | completly with german keyboard-layout on console, x11, kde |
| 00:19.58 | hallowname | khaije1_: audacity? |
| 00:20.19 | hallowname | ctx144k: kate :) |
| 00:20.45 | Avatar_ | some specialist for perlgagick here? |
| 00:21.09 | Avatar_ | cpan Image::Magick --> make: *** [Magick.o] Error 1 JCRISTY/PerlMagick-6.40.tar.gz /usr/bin/make -- NOT OK |
| 00:21.11 | khaije1_ | hallowname: is it more stable on linux than it is on windows? it's feeling pretty crashy on the win boxen |
| 00:21.13 | Gun_Smoke | ctx144k, see my above. |
| 00:21.23 | Avatar_ | but perlagcik ist uptodate |
| 00:21.37 | Avatar_ | bye apt-get installperlmagick |
| 00:21.44 | hallowname | khaije1_: ive used it for years and never crashed it... im a linux guy tho |
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| 00:22.14 | adb | Avatar_: ask #perl |
| 00:22.24 | Avatar_ | ok thx 4 info |
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| 00:30.23 | valdyn | Avatar_: and theres a debian package for this one too |
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| 00:30.55 | valdyn | Avatar_: you cant just use cpan like this on debian, theres a readme explaining it too ( but as i said you dont need to use cpan ) |
| 00:31.08 | valdyn | !cpan |
| 00:31.08 | dpkg | i guess cpan is the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network at http://www.perl.com/CPAN/, or perl -MCPAN -eshell, or it's probably better to use dh-make-perl --cpan |
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| 00:33.43 | scrote | hi |
| 00:34.01 | jdavis_ | How do I set up ssh-agent so that it asks to unlock my ssh key with a graphical agent, and then doesn't ask again? Right now it always asks from the terminal, every time I connect. |
| 00:34.05 | scrote | when i attempt to unistall a package with dpkg deinstall <pkg name> it says --> dpkg: need an action option |
| 00:34.33 | bbelt16ag | hey how do i find out what the id is of my swap file so i can hibernate |
| 00:35.12 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: you cant hibernate to swap file |
| 00:35.21 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: to swap partition you can |
| 00:35.24 | jpinx | scrote: use aptitude purge <package> |
| 00:35.39 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: or are you using a custom kernel with tuxonice ? |
| 00:35.40 | bbelt16ag | oh what ever.. |
| 00:35.45 | bbelt16ag | no custome |
| 00:35.57 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: cat /proc/swaps |
| 00:36.09 | scrote | i want to apt-get remove deb files |
| 00:36.10 | bbelt16ag | its /dev/sda1 i found it now how discver is unique id |
| 00:36.15 | scrote | or programs tghat were installed as .deb |
| 00:36.19 | scrote | via dpkg |
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| 00:36.35 | jpinx | scrote: use aptitude purge <package> |
| 00:36.38 | scrote | jpinx: will that work if <package> is a .deb file ? |
| 00:36.55 | jpinx | scrote: try it and see -- it works for me |
| 00:36.58 | bbelt16ag | this number how do i get it |
| 00:36.59 | bbelt16ag | UUID=e0ea2650-8006-4929-9fb7-2950e6e1044c |
| 00:37.01 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: ls /dev/disk/by-id |
| 00:37.46 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 00:37.46 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: i dont think swap has a uuid |
| 00:37.46 | scrote | doesent work for me |
| 00:37.46 | scrote | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xorg-driver-fglrx_8.582-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" |
| 00:37.46 | jpinx | bbelt16ag: fdisk -l will show you if you have a swap partition |
| 00:37.46 | valdyn | mm it does |
| 00:37.52 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: blkid /dev/whatever |
| 00:37.58 | jpinx | scrote: try #ubuntu |
| 00:38.08 | jpinx | scrote: this is #debian |
| 00:38.29 | scrote | so? |
| 00:38.38 | scrote | deb files are deb fieles |
| 00:38.49 | jpinx | scrote: different distribution |
| 00:38.51 | valdyn | scrote: if you say so |
| 00:39.01 | valdyn | scrote: we dont have your ubuntu deb file |
| 00:39.07 | scrote | i just want the stuff off my computer in http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide |
| 00:39.17 | jpinx | scrote: try #ubuntu |
| 00:39.19 | valdyn | !ubuntu |
| 00:39.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 00:39.44 | scrote | asshole fucks. |
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| 00:40.00 | jpinx | scrote: better still - install debian and we'll help you all night ;) |
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| 00:40.01 | bbelt16ag | no workie sigh |
| 00:40.03 | bbelt16ag | s2disk: Could not stat the resume device file. Reason: No such file or directory |
| 00:40.07 | jpinx | Ooops |
| 00:40.14 | ctx144k | re |
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| 00:40.28 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: why dont you just use /dev/sda1 or whatever you have |
| 00:40.36 | ctx144k | after calling dpkg-reconfigure locales i get the message: *** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings: LANGUAGE="de_DE" LANG=de_DE@euro LC_ALL="de_DE.iso8859-15" |
| 00:40.42 | ctx144k | anyone have an idea? |
| 00:40.56 | valdyn | !locales |
| 00:40.56 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
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| 00:41.34 | valdyn | and why isnt everyone using utf-8 |
| 00:41.48 | bbelt16ag | for? |
| 00:41.57 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: that was for ctx |
| 00:42.30 | valdyn | ctx144k: what did you do to make LC_ALL not match LANG ? |
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| 00:42.47 | valdyn | ctx144k: LC_ALL should be empty or match the the others |
| 00:42.52 | ctx144k | cause winXP is using iso8859 ... and i wanna use both systems |
| 00:43.00 | hipodilski | guys is gnome 2.24 already in debian testing? |
| 00:43.19 | valdyn | hipodilski: not completely |
| 00:43.23 | hipodilski | I'm looking for a convenient way to upgrade to gnome 2.24 because I want that task management applet so badly |
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| 00:43.49 | hipodilski | I tried to build gnome through garnome but it was a complete disaster |
| 00:44.07 | hipodilski | is there a repo or something I can use to install fresh gnome 2.24 with lenny somehow? |
| 00:44.15 | valdyn | hipodilski: gnome-applets 2.24 is not in squeeze |
| 00:44.29 | hipodilski | valdyn: that's too bad |
| 00:44.50 | hipodilski | then an upgrade to squeeze is completely pointless |
| 00:45.24 | valdyn | hipodilski: yea, testing just exists because of that task management applet ;) |
| 00:46.02 | hipodilski | valdyn: well I meant it's pointless for me :) |
| 00:46.13 | hipodilski | cause my main motivation to have it is having that applet |
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| 00:47.32 | khaije1_ | hipodilski: whats the applet called? |
| 00:48.12 | khaije1_ | u got me curious |
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| 00:49.49 | KavanS | hipodilski: link for gnome 2.24 task management review/screenshots? |
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| 00:50.45 | KavanS | pfff, already got it |
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| 00:52.00 | AussieGuy | in a binary system, how many different combinations are there for 10 digits? |
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| 00:53.21 | simonrvn | sounds like an exam question... |
| 00:53.43 | AussieGuy | nope, ive got this program i want to generate random filenames at the end |
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| 00:54.18 | adb | 2^(10-1) |
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| 00:54.29 | adb | 2^(n-1) |
| 00:54.56 | Hoxzer | Hmm |
| 00:55.04 | Wyzard | no, just (2^10) |
| 00:55.26 | adb | n== digits numbers |
| 00:55.50 | Hoxzer | Does hand tracking c++/c project already exist ? |
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| 00:56.05 | Wyzard | In a binary system, digits are bits... a 10-bit number has 2^10 possible distinct values |
| 00:56.21 | fas3r | how to erase the cache arp ? in the man i see just an option for one entry ... |
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| 00:56.41 | fas3r | ( -d) |
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| 00:57.05 | Avatar_ | who can me tel, |
| 00:57.07 | AussieGuy | I know in the 10 digit system.... one number has 10 possibilities 2 have 100 possibilties (00 to 99), 3 have 1000 and so on |
| 00:57.55 | Wyzard | right, 10^n |
| 00:58.02 | Wyzard | and binary is 2^n because there are two digits |
| 00:58.14 | simonrvn | dude, it would be 10^10; rather simple. |
| 00:58.20 | nareshov | !ternary |
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| 01:04.38 | fas3r | nobody ?? |
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| 01:06.49 | simonrvn | fas3r: hint, a for loop |
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| 01:11.00 | ajavid | nareshov, ##programming |
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| 01:11.17 | humbolt | I am trying to make an install from an USB drive. I found a script preparing the pendrive for me. That worked. However, I need to trick the installer to work without an actual CD-Rom drive. How can I do that? |
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| 01:14.15 | valdyn | !ig |
| 01:14.15 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r7) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual. <installer firmware> |
| 01:14.39 | Avatar_ | Hi, I need 4 Image::Magick "magickcore" & "magickwand", how can I install it ? thx 4 help |
| 01:14.56 | simonrvn | you were told that in #perl |
| 01:15.05 | adb | hehe |
| 01:15.06 | CoolCold | :) |
| 01:15.12 | valdyn | Avatar_: "apt-cache search perl magick" gives what? |
| 01:15.20 | Avatar_ | they told me, ask your administrator^ haha |
| 01:15.22 | Supaplex | humbolt: last time I did this, I partitioned the usb stick for ext3, formatted, installed grub onto it, and placed the kernel+initrd of the netboot install images, and created a proper menu.lst. |
| 01:15.34 | Supaplex | Avatar_: well if he can't tell you, fire him. ;) |
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| 01:16.31 | k-man | how can i burn a data dvd from the command line? |
| 01:16.38 | Avatar_ | what exactly want you know valdyn |
| 01:16.43 | valdyn | k-man: with growisofs |
| 01:16.53 | CoolCold | have strange question - where i can find repo for sarge?:) |
| 01:16.54 | valdyn | Avatar_: i dont , you want to run that command and read the output |
| 01:16.54 | Supaplex | humbolt: eg, http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2007/03/msg00019.html |
| 01:17.13 | Avatar_ | mom |
| 01:17.26 | simonrvn | what about her? |
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| 01:17.39 | blizzkid | lo all. How would I make message2 in notify-send -i /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/tray/32/tray-new-im.png -u normal "Message" "Message2" the output of tail -n1 -q -f ... ? |
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| 01:18.11 | fas3r | simonrvn: example ? |
| 01:18.20 | Avatar_ | I dont understand what I have to install from these output valdyn |
| 01:18.31 | Supaplex | blizzkid: echo "$(date)" might give you a hint. |
| 01:18.35 | fas3r | sorry but on bsd you can do arp -a -d for erase all table .. no loop or something .. |
| 01:18.38 | valdyn | blizzkid: where you put "message" you can also put $(command) |
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| 01:19.02 | blizzkid | valdyn: so that'd be $(tail ...)? |
| 01:19.10 | valdyn | blizzkid: yes |
| 01:19.46 | valdyn | blizzkid: except that -f makes no sense in a notification system |
| 01:20.28 | blizzkid | valdyn: it has to notify on every new line in the logfile |
| 01:20.51 | valdyn | blizzkid: then you have to run a new command when a new line is printed |
| 01:21.17 | Supaplex | blizzkid: tail -f ... | while read msg ; do ... "$msg" .... ; done |
| 01:21.35 | blizzkid | Supaplex: I tried that before but it didn't work |
| 01:21.59 | Supaplex | didn't work how? |
| 01:22.18 | blizzkid | Supaplex: it didn't notify me |
| 01:22.18 | Supaplex | did your monitor turn off? did the system reboot? |
| 01:22.28 | enouf | !doesn't work |
| 01:22.28 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 01:22.29 | humbolt | Supaplex: see, the problem I am having is that the freaking debian installer (non-gui version) believes it can not work without a freaking cdrom in place. |
| 01:22.33 | Supaplex | try echo "$msg" |
| 01:22.37 | adb | CoolCold: http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge |
| 01:22.47 | blizzkid | basically I want to get notified on new messages in finch |
| 01:22.56 | blizzkid | but there doesn't seem to be an existing plugin |
| 01:22.58 | CoolCold | adb: yeah, thanks, i've already found this |
| 01:23.13 | Supaplex | humbolt: the netboot images (not to be confused with netinst) does just that.... |
| 01:23.15 | blizzkid | so I thought I'd monitor logfiles and notify-send on a new line |
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| 01:23.39 | adb | CoolCold: ah , sorry |
| 01:23.52 | enouf | isn't that a species of bird? .. or something that steals Christmas even? |
| 01:23.56 | CoolCold | adb: no probs, thanks anyway |
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| 01:24.08 | adb | np |
| 01:24.25 | blizzkid | Supaplex: so, if you have any suggestions on finch notify-send ... ;) |
| 01:25.31 | Supaplex | blizzkid: works fine here. http://rafb.net/p/FgJRRw18.html I don't have notify-send to test with, but it updated in real time. |
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| 01:26.18 | blizzkid | let me try that one Supaplex |
| 01:26.21 | fas3r | thank |
| 01:27.03 | Supaplex | good luck all. I must be on my way. |
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| 01:29.47 | blizzkid | hmmz, it doesn't update... |
| 01:30.08 | blizzkid | or not always so it seems |
| 01:30.10 | Tramp | fas3r: "ip neigh flush dev <dev>" |
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| 01:45.00 | blindy | Currently my file server serves movies through windows shares. Ive got 1000's of movies so you can imagine what its like scrolling through the list to find osmething to watch. Is there some sort of web interface to neatly present a list of movies, perhaps with categories etc? |
| 01:45.21 | valdyn | blindy: yea |
| 01:45.55 | blindy | valdyn what is it called? |
| 01:46.28 | valdyn | blindy: gstar is database + website generator, for movies |
| 01:46.39 | blindy | I will check it out, thanks. |
| 01:46.42 | valdyn | blindy: gah: *gcstar* |
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| 01:47.55 | blindy | valdyn, you need a desktop? |
| 01:48.13 | valdyn | blindy: yea |
| 01:48.21 | blindy | Im running a headless server |
| 01:48.36 | valdyn | blindy: you dont need to enter the data on the same box as the website runs |
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| 01:48.57 | blindy | ah thanks. |
| 01:49.17 | valdyn | blindy: if you just want to generate a neat list of files, thats probably covered by php tutorials |
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| 01:51.20 | valdyn | blindy: https://valdyn.org/~valdyn/films.html |
| 01:51.42 | valdyn | blindy: but theres a few more templates for different looks iirc |
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| 01:56.32 | cjns3274 | :set col_nick_more="yellow" |
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| 02:01.32 | blindy | valdyn, you cant view by genre? |
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| 02:11.25 | timahvo1 | how can I list all files that belong to foo ? |
| 02:11.35 | timahvo1 | package foo* |
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| 02:12.24 | John_S | how do I make grub(2) recognize my ubuntu hd beside the debian install |
| 02:13.17 | dacs | ipw2200 firmware how do i know which ver i have, i actually tried all of the ver available i put it in usb stick and when i am asked at the installer i insert the usb , but still get the samething missing firmware file : ipw2200-bss.fw |
| 02:14.10 | nkuttler | !tell timahvo1 about search |
| 02:14.59 | timahvo1 | nkuttler: that'll do :) |
| 02:15.02 | timahvo1 | nkuttler: thanks |
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| 02:22.27 | SQlvpapir | is there a shortcut to making debs w/o having the debian dir? |
| 02:23.11 | Statutory_Ape | huh |
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| 02:23.40 | Statutory_Ape | SQlvpapir, what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 02:23.41 | SQlvpapir | I cant build .debs from source without the debain/rules etc. |
| 02:23.46 | Statutory_Ape | SQlvpapir, no |
| 02:24.27 | SQlvpapir | it seems quite extensive to make those.. I am sure I have all the dependencies etc. just looking for a way to avoid doing make install |
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| 02:24.51 | Statutory_Ape | so what are you trying to build? |
| 02:25.32 | SQlvpapir | the mythtv suite |
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| 02:26.12 | SQlvpapir | i could just grab the sauce from debian-multimedia but he screwed up which is why I compile from source in the first place |
| 02:26.31 | Statutory_Ape | who screwed up? |
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| 02:26.56 | SQlvpapir | whoever provides mythtv to debian-multimedia repos |
| 02:27.32 | SQlvpapir | the mythtv people says he denies to fix whatever problems the packages have |
| 02:27.45 | Statutory_Ape | what problems? |
| 02:28.27 | theholyduck | SQlvpapir, chekinstall |
| 02:28.30 | theholyduck | *checkinstall |
| 02:28.33 | theholyduck | its what you want |
| 02:28.41 | theholyduck | it creates a working .deb |
| 02:28.45 | theholyduck | but no dependencies no nuthing |
| 02:29.00 | theholyduck | run it instead of make install |
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| 02:29.10 | SQlvpapir | looks interesting |
| 02:29.35 | SQlvpapir | it just keeps track of the files instead of having dpkg doing it? |
| 02:29.36 | theholyduck | SQlvpapir, its bad for redist. but for local system its great |
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| 02:29.48 | theholyduck | SQlvpapir, it creates a .deb so you can just apt-get remove it yeah |
| 02:29.56 | SQlvpapir | so thats a no :) |
| 02:30.08 | theholyduck | SQlvpapir, well it creates and installs a deb |
| 02:30.31 | theholyduck | from what would have happened if you did make install |
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| 02:30.37 | SQlvpapir | aptitude show checkinstall claims otherwise |
| 02:30.40 | matt7676 | if I do "apt-get --purge remove packagename" it ask's me a Y/n. Is there a some sort of --force option? |
| 02:31.19 | SQlvpapir | you can give it -y for yes |
| 02:31.32 | theholyduck | SQlvpapir, well yeah. it creates a deb from what WOULD have been the output of make install |
| 02:32.33 | theholyduck | just run checkinstall in the dir and answer the questions. and it will make you a deb |
| 02:32.35 | matt7676 | SQlvpapir: like that: "apt-get --purge remove -y <packagename>" ? |
| 02:32.48 | SQlvpapir | I usually put it in the end |
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| 02:33.28 | matt7676 | "apt-get --purge remove <packagename> -y" <-- like that? |
| 02:34.13 | matt7676 | however, what's if there are monre than one Y/n question? |
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| 02:34.46 | theholyduck | -y = yes to all |
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| 02:34.57 | matt7676 | "apt-get --purge remove <packagename> -y -y -y" <-- if there a three Y/n questions during uninstall? :D |
| 02:35.06 | matt7676 | ok, thanks :D |
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| 02:42.26 | bbelt16ag | hey anybody familar with script for gpm aka gnome power management ?? i need to edit a script to get it to work properly.. |
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| 03:10.42 | rhavenn | running XFCE with dual-monitors... the GDM login screen only sets and image / login on one monitor...the 2nd monitor has the ugly X checkered look...how can i just set that to be black or an image? |
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| 03:13.24 | theholyduck | rhavenn, try in #xfce ? |
| 03:14.28 | rhavenn | theholyduck: well, it's more of a GDM or X issue..was trying to dink around with xsetroot in Xsetup file...was just hoping someone here knew...i'll dink around some more |
| 03:14.47 | theholyduck | rhavenn, try telling xfce to set a wallpaper |
| 03:14.49 | theholyduck | see what happens |
| 03:15.23 | rhavenn | theholyduck: oh, once i login both screens have their wallpaper, etc... it's GDM that doesn't see 2 |
| 03:16.23 | theholyduck | ahh well gdm sucks and what not :P |
| 03:16.30 | theholyduck | i had the same issue. i just didnt bother |
| 03:16.47 | theholyduck | its only 1.5 secs to login |
| 03:16.48 | theholyduck | anyway |
| 03:18.08 | rhavenn | oh i know...it works in xubuntu though....so they fixed something...maybe i will go ask them |
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| 03:28.18 | parsonsd | the man page isn't too extra clear to me - how do i use NetworkManager to control things like domain search and domain name, etc? |
| 03:28.56 | parsonsd | should i be going back to my local DHCP server to ensure these things are set? |
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| 03:29.40 | parsonsd | (and to think of it, are there more information sources about udhcpd then? most of the options are "go back to options.c" and that ain't too clear) |
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| 03:32.20 | rhavenn | parsonsd: those should be handed out by your local DHCP server |
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| 03:33.58 | duderdo | What package contains libgl.so? |
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| 03:34.18 | nkuttler | !tell duderdo about search |
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| 03:35.30 | duderdo | dpkg -S libgl.so |
| 03:35.30 | dpkg | There is no record of a libgl.so package |
| 03:36.09 | duderdo | fuck this pretentious bullshit |
| 03:36.15 | zoredache | can someone point me to the right file edit or what to change to properly change my timezone? Right now when I run date I get the time in UTC, and I want PDT |
| 03:36.40 | Sisk | duderdo packages.debian.org, use the second form. |
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| 03:40.07 | nkuttler | zoredache: tzconfig |
| 03:42.03 | zoredache | nkuttler: tzconfig didn't seem to do it for me, but I got an answer else where... dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 03:42.36 | zoredache | thanks :) |
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| 03:43.24 | Hasanibrahim | how can i compile a c code on debian ? |
| 03:43.50 | zoredache | Hasanibrahim: install gcc and then do a gcc filename.c |
| 03:44.39 | Hasanibrahim | zoredache: yes, i installed gcc |
| 03:44.45 | Hasanibrahim | but getting always error |
| 03:44.50 | Hasanibrahim | as this |
| 03:44.52 | Hasanibrahim | enemece.c:9: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function âprintfâ |
| 03:45.29 | zibri | stdio.h is not included? |
| 03:45.51 | Hasanibrahim | zibri yes :) sorry :) |
| 03:46.00 | zibri | and it's not an error, but a warning... |
| 03:46.02 | Hasanibrahim | don't think, i asked this question :) |
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| 03:47.17 | scroat | hi |
| 03:47.28 | scroat | apt-get remove apache2 DOES NOT remove apache |
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| 03:47.29 | scroat | why. |
| 03:47.43 | kenboo | dpkg -l |grep apapche2 |
| 03:47.44 | dpkg | ii |grep apapche2 1.1-2.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 03:47.48 | kenboo | uhh.. |
| 03:47.58 | scroat | all of a sudden, i get these syntax errors in apache2.conf and httpd.conf why can't i just get a fresh installation with apt-get |
| 03:48.11 | kenboo | dpkg --purge apache2 |
| 03:48.12 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up apache2 all over kenboo and hifi... |
| 03:48.16 | kenboo | grrr |
| 03:48.30 | scroat | what do i have to type to make it work. |
| 03:48.53 | kenboo | apt-get remove --purge apache2 && apt-get install apache2 |
| 03:49.21 | scroat | thnx |
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| 03:50.19 | zoredache | wouldn't you need to expecitly purge apache2.2-common as well? |
| 03:51.19 | kenboo | uh you are right. dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf returned apache2.2-common |
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| 03:51.56 | scroat | it still complains about the syntax errors. |
| 03:52.06 | scroat | i thought it purged it. |
| 03:52.23 | kenboo | sorry you need to purge apache2.2-common package |
| 03:52.31 | scroat | ok |
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| 03:53.18 | kenboo | then rm -rf /etc/apache2 (make sure you don't need the content under the directory) |
| 03:53.33 | kenboo | then install. |
| 03:53.41 | scroat | cool it worked. thanx pal. |
| 03:54.50 | kenboo | np. It was better to take a backup of the config file with syntax error so that you could take diff |
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| 04:08.51 | blindy | Currently my headless file server serves movies through windows shares. Ive got 1000's of movies so you can imagine what its like scrolling through the list to find osmething to watch. Is there some sort of web interface to neatly present a list of movies, perhaps with categories etc? I also need it to provide a link to the file so i can click on it and it will play using my default media player. |
| 04:09.42 | khaije1_ | blindy: it sounds like you need a media server, not a file share |
| 04:10.22 | blindy | khaije1_ i do not want a media server |
| 04:10.34 | bonez46 | if I take a sata drive.. running etch out of a system with Pentium II, 32 bit system and put it in a newer system with a 64 bit amd cpy. would that create EXT4 errors? Is that possible? |
| 04:11.23 | DogBoy | blindy, what's the difference between what you want and a media server again? |
| 04:11.30 | khaije1_ | blindy: what we want is so often different than what we need though isn't it? |
| 04:11.36 | khaije1_ | hugs glass of wine and weeps |
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| 04:13.41 | khaije1_ | seriously though blindy if you insist on the media server idea you can create whatever sort of categories you want and then symlink relevant entries to each media file but afaik you would need to do it manually and it's not very dynamic |
| 04:14.25 | kenboo | I guess there're YouTube like web app |
| 04:14.37 | blindy | I dont want it to stream |
| 04:14.41 | blindy | just provide a link to the share |
| 04:14.48 | bonez46 | er.. that cpy was and is a cpu instead |
| 04:14.56 | kenboo | I didn't say stream anyway |
| 04:15.03 | blindy | this is very close to what i want, however, i have to manually add movies and it doesnt provide links: http://videodb.net/demo/ |
| 04:15.35 | blindy | Thought somebody might know of some alternatives |
| 04:15.42 | skx | can pushing disks to the limit be causing high load? |
| 04:15.49 | DogBoy | somebody like freshmeat.net |
| 04:17.32 | DogBoy | how would having a web interface help you scroll thru thousands of movies? |
| 04:17.47 | skx | he can create columns |
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| 04:17.59 | Rusty1 | skx: top or htop give a clue? |
| 04:18.21 | skx | no, not really, ~20% of cpu is idling and the load is >12 |
| 04:18.40 | skx | atop show high disk load, but that's all |
| 04:18.45 | skx | hence my question |
| 04:19.25 | Rusty1 | what fs on it? |
| 04:19.33 | khaije1_ | skx: give atop a try, it's less useful for state monitoring than htop, but for analysis it's very useful |
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| 04:19.36 | skx | ext3 |
| 04:20.11 | skx | but can disks cause a load like that? |
| 04:20.31 | khaije1_ | skx: in fact, try atop and powertop (give you a sense of the interupt load) |
| 04:20.53 | skx | DSK | sdb | busy 102% | read 1032 | write 250 | avio 7 ms | |
| 04:20.53 | skx | DSK | sda | busy 90% | read 1130 | write 247 | avio 6 ms | |
| 04:21.09 | skx | and it's like that almost all the time |
| 04:21.48 | skx | I know which apps use the disks and it's fine, just the load made me a bit curious |
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| 04:21.58 | bonez46 | anyone? why would I get gparted telling me a drive can't be mounted, that has etch on it.. if I attempt to mount it.. and etch with ext4? |
| 04:26.19 | skx | I don't have appropriate debugging options in kernel for powertop |
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| 04:30.08 | setuid | Can someone tell me what this tcpdump output is telling me? http://rafb.net/p/F2ZdXz87.html |
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| 04:34.09 | zoredache | blindy: have you consider using something like miro on your client to your media on the fileserver? It will build an index into a sqlite database. |
| 04:34.40 | behrad | Md5sum off all DVD's off lenny that i write is not correct! i bus new dvd write for write lenny but i have same problem?! |
| 04:39.31 | zoredache | does anyone know if there is a practical limit to the number of bind mounts I can do? Is 20-30 too many? |
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| 04:42.16 | scribeskul | stew: Do you know anything about GLX? |
| 04:43.21 | stew | scribeskul: its an extension to the x window system which add in interface to opengl |
| 04:43.51 | stew | why do you ask? |
| 04:44.08 | scribeskul | stew: Is it possible to use GLX with a dual head system, using 2 seperate video cards and spanning the desktop through Xinerama or something similar? Any help would be awesome! |
| 04:44.23 | scribeskul | I am GLX enabled when i dont use Xinerama |
| 04:44.46 | stew | scribeskul: which driver are you using? |
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| 04:45.33 | scribeskul | stew: but that only lets me do two seperate desktops...i want to be able to span woith GLX. I am using the official Nvidia driver for my AGP card (Nvidia GeForce 5200) and i think a generic driver for my PCI Nvidia TNT |
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| 04:45.53 | stew | i'm not going to help with the nvidia driver |
| 04:46.12 | scribeskul | stew: Well,I have the official drivers installed, GLX works fine when not spanning |
| 04:46.26 | scribeskul | Its more a question of what i can uyse to span with GLX |
| 04:47.10 | scribeskul | Basically, is there another program other than Xinerama that will let me span? I only know of ahandfull so far. |
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| 04:49.36 | behrad | Md5sum off all DVD's off lenny that i write is not correct! i bus new dvd write for write lenny but i have same problem?! why this happens? |
| 04:49.45 | mbent | hi, im having a little trouble with the php binary. How can i check if it was compiled with --enable-pcntl ? I would have thought it would have been compiled like that by default in debian. If it's not, how would i go about compiling the source with the --enable-pnctl parameter? |
| 04:51.20 | setuid | mbent, php -i |
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| 04:51.40 | fieldse | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.47 | fieldse | Anyone breathing? |
| 04:51.54 | setuid | No |
| 04:52.12 | fieldse | oh... you might want to get that checked out. =D |
| 04:52.24 | stew | mbent: you could get the source with "apt-get source php5" and look at the "debian/rules" file for the configure options. if it wasn't set, you could set it there and recompile, /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 04:52.44 | fieldse | unless it's some sort of cool ability you've developed, in which case... can you show me? |
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| 04:53.14 | mbent | stew, thanks mate, i will try that right now |
| 04:53.19 | setuid | mbent, see above |
| 04:53.31 | setuid | No need for that level of complexity, the binary tells you everything you need to know |
| 04:54.03 | mbent | where does it tell me? |
| 04:54.13 | setuid | I just showed you... "php -i" |
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| 04:54.56 | mbent | im looking at the phpinfo page, it doesn't have any compile parameters information |
| 04:55.07 | scribeskul | stew: Nevermind, I figured it out. I now have GLX working with Xinerama. groovy. |
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| 05:05.14 | maher | how do i stop the flash plugin from talking to the sound card? |
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| 05:06.18 | mythomaniac | anyone here familiar with awesome window manager, i need some guidance in setting up a theme and icons |
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| 05:08.43 | jeyk | hi |
| 05:09.28 | jeyk | has anyone managed to get fglrx direct render working with ATI? |
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| 05:09.54 | mbent | stew, bah! got the build-deps, got the source, added the --enable-pcntl line to debian/rules and then recompiled. At the very end it says: error: âstruct utsnameâ has no member named âdomainnameâ and failed |
| 05:09.57 | sepult | jeyk: yes |
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| 05:10.15 | jeyk | sepult: any hints |
| 05:10.20 | sepult | jeyk: do you mean the proprietary ondes or the debian ones ? |
| 05:10.30 | jeyk | either |
| 05:10.37 | jeyk | i cant get either working,,, |
| 05:11.05 | sepult | jeyk: i installed the debian first, but got problems, then installed the proprietary ones |
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| 05:11.43 | sepult | jeyk: you have to have a proper xorg.conf before and then aticonfig --initial --input /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:11.58 | jeyk | oh, they installed alright, but i dont know how to get the direct render working |
| 05:12.12 | jeyk | ok |
| 05:12.23 | jeyk | postbin? |
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| 05:12.36 | sepult | jeyk: do a fglrxinfo, in your X11 env |
| 05:12.37 | mbent | stew, i also found a link that says I need to downgrade autoconf? wtf? (http://wiki.cpaneldirect.net/wiki/index.php/Posix.c:471:_error:_%27struct_utsname%27_has_no_member_named_%27domainname%27) |
| 05:13.27 | sepult | jeyk: you maybe have to download the proprietary drivers first and install for the drm capab to work |
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| 05:14.12 | sepult | jeyk: the mesa one's don't work, i don't now why |
| 05:14.24 | sepult | know |
| 05:14.29 | jeyk | ok, what did you use? |
| 05:15.29 | sepult | jeyk: ati-driver-installer-9.2-x86.x86_64.run |
| 05:16.05 | sepult | jeyk: for the radeon of X1550 you nead 64bit capab enabled so this one does it |
| 05:16.16 | sepult | for me at least |
| 05:16.22 | jeyk | i have x1300 |
| 05:16.40 | sepult | jeyk: the go with the 1300 series fro amd.ati.com |
| 05:16.43 | sepult | driver |
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| 05:18.13 | jeyk | fglrxinfo - http://pastebin.com/m77487e0f |
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| 05:22.21 | jeyk | thanks, think i did something wrong b4.... |
| 05:22.35 | sepult | jeyk: yes i see, the vendor string has to match Radeon or some such |
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| 05:24.03 | sepult | jelly: my old kernel has it, my new one here not, so if you change kernels you have to reinstall the proprietary driver again |
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| 05:28.09 | mbent | stew, got it working! whoo, thanks mate |
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| 05:29.03 | mbent | another quick question.... is there a way to get rid of all those packages I installed when using build-dep ? |
| 05:29.12 | mbent | i don't need them and im running low on disk space |
| 05:30.11 | PeterFA | I want to get the configuration file to configure Firefox on Debian Squeeze. |
| 05:30.26 | PeterFA | I"m trying to build a derivative of Firefox on my Squeeze system. |
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| 05:31.22 | fieldse | > hey, anyone feeling friendly: quick list of favorite channels / servers? ( linux, general, debian/ubuntu/alternate-distros, lively community) |
| 05:31.40 | fieldse | << new again to IRC |
| 05:32.25 | fieldse | @ peterFA - squeeze is ?? |
| 05:33.12 | PeterFA | fieldse, the name of the testing version of Debian. |
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| 05:40.44 | J_P | hi all |
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| 05:42.31 | J_P | how I change of "Sun Mar 15 01:38:53 EDT 2009" to "Sun Mar 15 01:38:53 BRT 2009" ? I try set in tzselect and set ok to brazil location, but still are EDT. |
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| 05:43.33 | jeeves | how can I parse a apache log file that'll show each person's access (ie. the # of times) in each day? |
| 05:44.36 | jeeves | how can I parse a apache log file that'll show each person's access (ie. the # of times) in each day? |
| 05:46.28 | dacs | how do i know if my laptop is seeing my usb stick, i am in the process of installing lenny and in the installer it is telling me that my ipw2200.fw is missing, i should put it in a usb or cd and then run it? |
| 05:46.30 | mbent | jeeves, webalizer, awstats |
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| 05:46.41 | mbent | jeeves, google analytics |
| 05:46.49 | mbent | jeeves, there are heaps, go have a look |
| 05:47.14 | jeeves | mbent, I have awstats installed on my system, but I can't get that fine grained. what I'd like to be able to do is enter a search string, then have it show a list of days, etc. |
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| 05:47.39 | mbent | jeeves, try google analytics |
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| 05:48.38 | jeeves | mbent, will it allow you to upload the date? |
| 05:48.50 | mbent | jeeves, i don't know |
| 05:50.14 | fieldse | hm, stupid question, pardon please: if highlighted chat line with my name, is this is PM? |
| 05:50.21 | jeeves | mbent, thanks. I'll look |
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| 05:50.53 | mbent | fieldse, no, it means someone is just talking to you |
| 05:51.05 | fieldse | oh, shit |
| 05:51.19 | fieldse | @peterfe apologies, man |
| 05:51.53 | fieldse | er, I mean @peterfa ^ |
| 05:52.13 | fieldse | mbent thx |
| 05:52.40 | mbent | err, what chat application are you using? |
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| 05:54.45 | R_Dragon | when trying to install Wesnoth I get the error "E: b2evolution: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1". |
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| 05:54.54 | scribeskul | stew: I hope I didn't make you mad or bum you out man haha |
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| 05:55.28 | R_Dragon | any suggetions? |
| 05:55.34 | R_Dragon | suggestions |
| 05:55.59 | scribeskul | R_Dragon: Only thing I can think of is to make sure it is the newest version |
| 05:56.10 | zophy | what user does squid run as ? |
| 05:56.25 | R_Dragon | it started happening when I tried to update. |
| 05:56.54 | R_Dragon | so I uninstalled it and tried to install again and now it won't complete the installation |
| 05:58.02 | scribeskul | R_Dragon: is there a b2evolution package? Maybe try reinstalling that. |
| 05:58.29 | R_Dragon | ok... I'll give that a try. |
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| 06:02.03 | askvictor | I have /boot on a seperate partition; I've set groot in grub's menu.list, but grub can't find the kernel etc since it's looking for /boot/vmlinuz... in the boot partition rather than just /vmlinuz... - is there a way to configure the automagic kernels thing to not prepend /boot to the kernel path? |
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| 06:02.45 | R_Dragon | scribeskul: I took out b2evolution and figured if it needed it for the dependencies it would add it. It apparently is a conflicting program. |
| 06:03.06 | Zeroyez | can i install lenny from a usb stick? |
| 06:03.07 | R_Dragon | wesnoth loaded without problems this time |
| 06:03.16 | scribeskul | R_Dragon: groovy! |
| 06:03.42 | scribeskul | R_Dragon: I |
| 06:03.46 | scribeskul | R_Dragon: I |
| 06:03.53 | scribeskul | ll probably play a game or two tonight on there |
| 06:04.00 | scribeskul | sorry |
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| 06:04.08 | R_Dragon | sometimes I just need a different pair of eyes... Thanks scribeskul |
| 06:04.12 | askvictor | never mind worked it out |
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| 06:04.34 | Zeroyez | i tried using unetbootin to install lenny but every time i run the installer it says no cd rom drive was found |
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| 06:08.42 | Zeroyez | ok fine i'll use up another cd-r... |
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| 06:27.25 | kamp2tux | how to check the version number lenny-backports using aptitude command ? |
| 06:27.51 | kamp2tux | *how to check the version number for a package in the lenny-backports using aptitude command ? |
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| 06:29.06 | arrenlex | I am looking for the pthread_create manpages. It used to be in the glibc-doc package in stable, but that particular page has been removed in squeeze. Why is this? |
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| 06:34.47 | potyl | Hi. My sound settings don't persist after a reboot. Each time I need to reconfigure alsa. How can I fix this? |
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| 06:35.19 | jaggz | I'm mounting a drive with sshfs and my .pl script won't run over it.. it's strange because the file is readable, and /usr/bin/perl is local, but bash still says: bash: ./spa-make-trans-xls.pl: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
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| 06:35.53 | jaggz | the share is sshfs mounted from a normal user account |
| 06:36.16 | jaggz | ptyl, not sure.. I just setup a script to run aumix and load some settings each boot |
| 06:36.33 | potyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.42 | potyl | jaggz: when you get "bad interpreter:" usually it means the the first line has non visible characters (like a windows enter) so the interpreter is no longer "/usr/bin/perl" but "/usr/bin/perl[WINDOWS-ENTER]" |
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| 06:43.38 | jaggz | the script is on the remote folder, yes |
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| 06:44.01 | potyl | so check the first line with a binary editor |
| 06:44.23 | potyl | use hexdump -C |
| 06:44.36 | jaggz | yeah, I know.. it's in unix format and is proper.. same exact file will run if I cp it locally (like /tmp) |
| 06:44.58 | potyl | oh, then it's more tricky. |
| 06:45.21 | potyl | wait, maybe the mount point is not mounted with the executable option |
| 06:45.45 | potyl | is "mount" showing the sshfs folder? |
| 06:46.00 | potyl | if so, is it showing "noexec" ? |
| 06:46.50 | jaggz | yessir.. that's it |
| 06:47.30 | jaggz | adding exec and retrying |
| 06:47.58 | potyl | the suspense .... |
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| 06:50.24 | Younix | in my butt. |
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| 06:52.51 | jaggz | heh.. even longer.. I have to wait since I ran a program which i need running for a while... executed whilst in the shared folder.. could maybe lazy unmount but I'll wait |
| 06:53.08 | scribeskul | hi! |
| 06:53.43 | potyl | jaggz: could you paste your sound configuration script somewhere? |
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| 06:56.06 | scribeskul | Anyway to edit the menu bar in gnome? (Change and or add a section to Application, Places, & System) |
| 06:57.21 | potyl | scribeskul: there's a way. I recall that two programs can do it, I forgot their names. The menu follows a freedesktop.org specification. |
| 06:57.21 | jaggz | hey, looks like it's a script from the existing package.. found at /etc/init.d/aumix doing a search to see if it's from the aumix package |
| 06:57.33 | jaggz | yes it is.. just install aumix |
| 06:57.56 | scribeskul | potyl: Cool thanks. |
| 06:57.56 | potyl | scribeskul:alacarte - easy GNOME menu editing tool |
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| 07:03.40 | potyl | aumix: error opening mixer: Success :D |
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| 07:36.22 | dacs_ | ok, now i finished installing lenny in my laptop, only my wired internet is working and not my wireless ... how can i fix that please? |
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| 07:41.21 | dacs_ | can someone here please help me setup my wireless in my laptop? |
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| 07:43.15 | fieldse | dacs_ what is your problem? |
| 07:44.52 | fieldse | dacs_ you may need to get drivers for wireless card. i had to do that |
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| 07:45.05 | dacs_ | fieldse: when i was installing my os, it mention something about missing firmware ipw2200-bss.fw |
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| 07:46.09 | rerushg | do you have winXP driver for your wireless card? |
| 07:46.31 | cahoot | dacs: aptitude install firmware-ipw2x00 |
| 07:46.34 | dacs_ | rerushg: it is a builtin card |
| 07:47.06 | rerushg | understand.... but need software.... driver.... probably on CD |
| 07:47.48 | fieldse | ah... listen to these guys. =D |
| 07:47.51 | rerushg | good idea cahoot.... does kernel driver work...... mine didn't :) |
| 07:48.04 | cahoot | dacs: for this I think you need enable non-free sources |
| 07:48.53 | dacs_ | !non-free source |
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| 07:48.57 | fieldse | dacs_ I had to do same. Look up "linux ipw....etc" on google and see if you find a place to download |
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| 07:49.17 | fieldse | dacs_ then install to usr/share/firware (I think) |
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| 07:49.41 | cahoot | dacs: with a farly recent kernel you shouldn't need anything debian doesn't offer |
| 07:49.49 | cahoot | fairly |
| 07:50.45 | dacs_ | cahoot: thats what i thought, and thats why i decided to go with lenny, its a matter on setting up none-free in my sources.lit |
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| 07:51.51 | rerushg | cahoot is right... it's worth a shot... I see "Intel Pro Wireless 2200/2915 firmware (bss), version 3.0" in Synaptic |
| 07:51.52 | cahoot | dacs: edit /etc/apt/sources.list - you need a line like: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib |
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| 07:53.49 | fieldse | dacs_ or you can just download straight from the site and open with with a program called gdebi |
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| 07:55.13 | icedtea | whats that program that you could pipe output to and it will run x program on every line? |
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| 07:55.18 | fieldse | dacs_ but if you understand what cahoot talking about you should find 99% of drivers needed there. I had a hard time with my wireless (broadcom) and had to get a special utility to install a driver, but that's worst case scenario |
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| 07:56.13 | megatog615 | anyone know what happened to apt-zeroconf? |
| 07:56.25 | fieldse | dacs_ here, I found link: http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/firmware-ipw2x00 |
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| 07:57.15 | rerushg | fieldse: are we getting dacs confused? there's a driver in the repos that might work. try that first? then ndiswrapper if it doesn't, right? |
| 07:57.46 | dacs_ | fieldse: cahoot ok i got the firmware installed , but still , when i push the wireless button, it doesn't lit up |
| 07:58.22 | fieldse | rerushg lol yes. I had assumed he had already looked for firmware in main depository |
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| 07:58.41 | fieldse | rerushg =) |
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| 07:58.47 | PiousMinion | Hi, I'm using squeeze and gedit is unable to open files on smb:// shares. I don't see a bug report filed at bugs.debian.org. Should I file a bug report or is there something I need to install for this functionality? |
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| 07:59.13 | DaemonDEB | If I get just DVD #1, do I have everything for a standard install without relying on a mirror for anything? |
| 07:59.42 | dacs_ | rerushg: i don't like ndiswrapper at all |
| 07:59.59 | fieldse | dacs_ You may need to reboot before it works. right, rerushg? |
| 08:00.14 | cahoot | dacs: you also need the relevant kernel module loaded |
| 08:00.17 | rerushg | absolutely...:) |
| 08:00.18 | DaemonDEB | ndiswrapper is *never* a good idea, unless you happen to be using a chipset in a laptop that cannot be replaced |
| 08:00.29 | dacs_ | fieldse: can i modprobe it |
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| 08:00.39 | DaemonDEB | I'd just throw out the card and buy one that doesn't need ndiswrapper if we're talking desktop |
| 08:00.41 | fieldse | dacs_ dunno |
| 08:00.44 | dacs_ | cahoot: wish one |
| 08:01.04 | rerushg | dacs: what driver do you have? from where? |
| 08:01.29 | megatog615 | anyone have any idea at all? |
| 08:01.33 | rerushg | daemondeb: it's a lappie... |
| 08:01.40 | DaemonDEB | I think ndiswrapper also sets taint_crap |
| 08:01.44 | DaemonDEB | so good luck filing bugs |
| 08:01.52 | dacs_ | rerushg: i don't know, i am i windows user so hold your horses mate :) |
| 08:01.54 | megatog615 | apt-zeroconf is probably the most genius idea but it sorta dropped off the map |
| 08:02.19 | dacs_ | rerushg: this is a freshley installed lenny on an HP laptop |
| 08:02.22 | streuner_ | ndiswrapper causes many headaches, on my laptop it causes serveral freezes... |
| 08:02.23 | megatog615 | problem is it doesnt seem to work in the latest sod |
| 08:02.25 | megatog615 | *sid |
| 08:02.28 | DaemonDEB | Bridging Windows drivers into the Linux kernel should make anyone cringe |
| 08:02.43 | DaemonDEB | ndiswrapper is consistently one of the top 3 crash causers at kernel oops |
| 08:02.49 | streuner_ | yeah |
| 08:02.53 | fieldse | LOL @daemonDEB |
| 08:02.59 | rerushg | dacs: no problem sir.... just take it slow.... and make it clear..... |
| 08:03.00 | streuner_ | nah |
| 08:03.02 | fieldse | ahahaha |
| 08:03.05 | streuner_ | he is right |
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| 08:03.18 | fieldse | @daemondeb Yeah, that was my intro to linux. |
| 08:03.30 | streuner_ | nah |
| 08:03.40 | streuner_ | dpkg, ndiswrapper |
| 08:03.40 | dpkg | ndiswrapper is probably a way to wrap Windows drivers so that they can be used in Linux (x86 or x86-64 only). If there is a Linux driver for your device, first consider that instead, for wireless LAN, ask me about <wireless>; if there isn't, ask me about <ndiswrapper one-liner> to install. 16-bit PC Card (PCMCIA) devices are not supported. http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper http://ndiswrapper.sf.net/ #ndiswrapper @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:03.41 | rerushg | daemonDEB: understand perfectly .... trying to get him into native driver from repo.... then ndiswrapper if no-go... |
| 08:04.01 | DaemonDEB | The only thing tainting my kernel is Nvidia, and thats because nobody else makes passable high performance video cards that work well in Linux |
| 08:04.14 | dacs_ | i will reboot then comeback |
| 08:04.22 | DaemonDEB | I had trouble with my ATI chipset drivers on Windows |
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| 08:04.29 | fieldse | dacs_, rerushg: AFK but will watch for messages, good luck |
| 08:04.35 | DaemonDEB | emailed ATI and they said they had no intention of ever fixing it |
| 08:04.41 | dacs_ | fieldse: thanks mate |
| 08:04.45 | DaemonDEB | so that's the last time I bought anything from them :) |
| 08:04.56 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: I've never had an issue with any ATI card using the opensource drivers. |
| 08:04.57 | megatog615 | anyone else here use apt-zeroconf? |
| 08:04.58 | rerushg | fieldse: later dude... |
| 08:05.30 | DaemonDEB | PiousMinion: The open source radeon driver is acceptable for 2d stuff, it's not like the laptop is a gaming rig |
| 08:05.34 | fieldse | @daemondeb yeah I gave up on my ATI card, lol... not worth the trouble, heh. I just gave up some 3d screensaves for a lot less system bog |
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| 08:05.46 | DaemonDEB | but you need FGLRX otherwise and that is some serious crap |
| 08:05.47 | rerushg | daemondeb: I was lucky... had NV card from the get-go ..... no problems |
| 08:06.05 | fieldse | ~ perma AFK ~ night all |
| 08:06.24 | DaemonDEB | Fedora is switching to Nouveau by default for F11 |
| 08:06.29 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: Not really. I've used a full 3d desktop with the opensource drivers since it was an option. Never had an issue. |
| 08:06.34 | DaemonDEB | it supports more cards and faster 2d than NV |
| 08:06.44 | rerushg | I kinda got tired of the 3D stuff..... hardly use it now.... :) |
| 08:06.44 | DaemonDEB | but probably a bit too iffy for Debian? |
| 08:06.54 | DaemonDEB | I know it's there in Debian, but it goes to NV by default |
| 08:07.48 | DaemonDEB | well, Nvidia's driver patches out and replaces about a third of your X Server, and bypasses X's official rendering spec entirely |
| 08:08.05 | DaemonDEB | but it's the only driver for Linux from anyone that fully accelerates the entire OpenGL spec |
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| 08:08.40 | megatog615 | maybe we could have a fund raiser to get nvidia to release the docs |
| 08:08.44 | DaemonDEB | if you do a glxinfo you can see that it supports more OpenGL extensions than Intel or ATI |
| 08:08.54 | DaemonDEB | ATI's driver crashes about halfway through the print out |
| 08:10.15 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: crashes? I don't see that. |
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| 08:10.27 | DaemonDEB | I can see both sides of this, Nvidia definitely has good stuff and trade secrets, and there is the concern for binary blobs creating security problems |
| 08:10.33 | dacs_ | fieldse: no luck |
| 08:10.47 | DaemonDEB | PiousMinion: It will say Segmentation Fault |
| 08:10.57 | DaemonDEB | if you do glxinfo using FGLRX |
| 08:11.22 | rerushg | dacs: again... where did you get driver? |
| 08:11.23 | DaemonDEB | it'll start listing the extensions and segfault after several lines |
| 08:11.24 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: ahh, with the closed source drivers yeah. I only use the opensource drivers fro ATI. |
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| 08:12.07 | dacs_ | rerushg: i have no driver i think |
| 08:12.15 | DaemonDEB | I use the Nvidia drivers in the repo, but I've considered Nvidia's script, the main problem with that is that they replace your libGLU with theirs |
| 08:12.25 | DaemonDEB | and even if you uninstall it, theirs stays |
| 08:12.32 | rerushg | dacs: you have ethernet connection...right? |
| 08:12.40 | dacs_ | rerushg: can u please append my nick to your messages |
| 08:12.45 | dacs_ | :) |
| 08:12.49 | dacs_ | rerushg:yes |
| 08:12.58 | DaemonDEB | you end up having to apt-get remove masa libglu |
| 08:13.02 | DaemonDEB | and reinstalling it |
| 08:13.12 | DaemonDEB | to get rid of Nvidia's corrupted files |
| 08:13.41 | DaemonDEB | I asked why they do that and got a reply saying "Don't ask" |
| 08:13.49 | rerushg | dacs: do you have "synaptic package manager" |
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| 08:14.38 | DaemonDEB | so I learned years ago to just stick with your distribution's packed Nvidia driver |
| 08:14.45 | dacs_ | rerushg: yes |
| 08:15.28 | rerushg | dac_: cool... start it up and search for "ipw" |
| 08:15.31 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: one thing I don't get is... even though AMD owns ATI, most AMD laptops have nvidia graphics. lol |
| 08:15.37 | DaemonDEB | (plus Ubuntu patches their kernel about every other day, so that gets old, yeah) |
| 08:16.03 | DaemonDEB | PiousMinion: They don't think much of their acquisition do they? ;) |
| 08:16.59 | DaemonDEB | the only party pooper about Debian is that their ralink rt61pci driver has serious rate control problems |
| 08:17.15 | DaemonDEB | that's fixed in Sid, but it may never filter down to Lenny |
| 08:17.42 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: maybe not, but volatile is a posibility. |
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| 08:17.57 | DaemonDEB | well, it's built into the kernel |
| 08:18.09 | DaemonDEB | and since the fix is part of kernel 2.6.28...... |
| 08:18.11 | DaemonDEB | yeah |
| 08:18.35 | DaemonDEB | that big of a change is probably too much to ask for Debian Stable |
| 08:18.38 | PiousMinion | ahh, true |
| 08:18.52 | dacs | rerushg: ok found it, and i saw that the firmware is green |
| 08:18.56 | DaemonDEB | it didn't really fix it, it just defaults to a different rate algorithm for *all* wifi cards |
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| 08:19.02 | DaemonDEB | so it effectively works around the bug |
| 08:19.59 | rerushg | dacs: so you have native wireless driver loaded.... are you running KDE or Gnome? |
| 08:20.05 | DaemonDEB | so Debian has the problem, but Ubuntu doesn't *sigh* |
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| 08:20.21 | dacs | rerushg: gnome |
| 08:20.26 | megatog615 | oh what |
| 08:20.33 | megatog615 | there is no rt patch for 2.6.28, lol |
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| 08:20.47 | megatog615 | :sadface: |
| 08:20.50 | DaemonDEB | there's an -rt option for any kernel |
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| 08:21.02 | DaemonDEB | it's a compile-time option :) |
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| 08:21.46 | DaemonDEB | if you want to build your own kernel, lots of neat new possibilities open up, along with the chance of more bugs B-) |
| 08:22.05 | rerushg | dacs: arrghhh.... I have KDE..... look for a netwrork connection on your panel... see if you have a wireless connect option there |
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| 08:23.42 | DaemonDEB | Debian went with 2.6.26, which was right before that disastrous new integrated gspca driver B-) |
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| 08:23.57 | PiousMinion | gspca = bad? |
| 08:23.58 | DaemonDEB | so my webcams work on Debian, but any other distribution is hit or miss |
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| 08:24.19 | DaemonDEB | nope, the GSPCA module in Debian's repo is the last one that actually worked well |
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| 08:24.42 | DaemonDEB | any kernel newer than 2.6.26 has the new integrated driver which breaks almost _everything_ |
| 08:25.33 | PiousMinion | idk why they would compile it in instead of making it a module. I mean it's not like it's at all essential. rofl |
| 08:25.39 | DaemonDEB | Fedora's workaround was to patch every app in their repo that used that driver to ignore the new v4l2 system and use the old one instead |
| 08:25.44 | megatog615 | in other words, the kernel devs are saying you should stop cybering :D |
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| 08:26.54 | DaemonDEB | well, it's not really the driver's fault, it introduced a new system that most programs don't work with yet |
| 08:27.03 | megatog615 | DaemonDEB: basically there's no preempt patch for 2.6.28 i think |
| 08:27.09 | DaemonDEB | so the patches will have to be applied to every program with that functionality |
| 08:27.42 | DaemonDEB | it's the typical Linux approach, pull the rug out from under you and replace it with something else real quick ;) |
| 08:28.03 | DaemonDEB | megatog615: rt works on 2.6.28 |
| 08:28.32 | PiousMinion | DaemonDEB: do you type for a living? :P |
| 08:28.42 | DaemonDEB | possibly |
| 08:28.43 | megatog615 | then why is there a patch for 2.6.29 lol |
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| 08:29.28 | DaemonDEB | well, optimally, they'd make all kernels realtime |
| 08:29.40 | PiousMinion | So, I'm using squeeze and gedit is unable to open files on smb:// shares. I don't see a bug report filed at bugs.debian.org. Should I file a bug report or is there something I need to install for this functionality? |
| 08:29.43 | DaemonDEB | but there's so many bugs in Linux that get triggered by that, they keep it off by default |
| 08:29.44 | megatog615 | yeah i dont understand that |
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| 08:30.02 | megatog615 | i mean if they did they could squash the bugs faster |
| 08:30.17 | dacs | which software handles the wireless connection |
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| 08:30.36 | DaemonDEB | Ingo Molnar said that there's so much code in Linux (old code) that's poorly documented that they're having trouble figuring out how to fix those bugs |
| 08:30.46 | PiousMinion | dacs: wireless-tools ? |
| 08:31.31 | DaemonDEB | old poorly documented kernel code that only a few top programmers (think Alan Cox) know what to do with |
| 08:31.40 | DaemonDEB | that progress is not happening quickly |
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| 08:32.05 | rerushg | dacs: I'm running KDE. Don't remember Gnome. Should be a network connection icon in your system tray...??? |
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| 08:32.22 | DaemonDEB | to tell the truth, preemption off completely yields the best performance, but slows down multitasking |
| 08:32.29 | DaemonDEB | so the user perceives it as being slower |
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| 08:32.58 | rerushg | anybody running Gnome that can help dacs with network config? |
| 08:33.00 | PiousMinion | perception of speed is better than actual speed. many don't grasp that. |
| 08:33.00 | DaemonDEB | server kernels should be compiled with preemption disabled |
| 08:33.14 | dacs | rerushg: i don't have it there , i can't find it |
| 08:33.17 | DaemonDEB | desktop kernels should be preemption voluntary |
| 08:33.41 | DaemonDEB | insane people should use realtime preemption B-) |
| 08:33.48 | dacs | PiousMinion: i already have wireless-tools installed , but having a heck of a time to find it |
| 08:34.08 | gryfie | Kernal should use cooperative Multitasking ;D |
| 08:34.24 | rerushg | dacs: try under system>administration>network ? |
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| 08:34.49 | megatog615 | hmm |
| 08:34.50 | PiousMinion | dacs: If you are in gnome what you are looking for is called network-manager. IF it is installed, but not appearing, make sure you are a member of the netdev and haldaemon groups. then relogin to gnome. |
| 08:35.05 | megatog615 | i installd 2.6.28 from the repo and my swap file wont activate |
| 08:35.07 | DaemonDEB | preemption is just how preemtible the kernel level code should be, preempt voluntary reduces lag comparable to the old low latency patches |
| 08:35.18 | DaemonDEB | should be good enough for any desktop user |
| 08:35.55 | dacs | PiousMinion: can you help me to check if i am a member or no |
| 08:36.06 | cahoot | PiousMinion: he also needs comment out everything but 'lo' in interfaces |
| 08:36.08 | rerushg | PiousMinion: thanks for the help.... KDE here.... afraid I'll just confuse him..:) |
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| 08:36.49 | DaemonDEB | true realtime is not needed by any normal user, it's meant more for cutting lasers and professional audio work and mutant sea bass with cutting lasers |
| 08:36.57 | dacs | rerushg: but i don't think that it is working yet |
| 08:36.58 | PiousMinion | dacs: cat /etc/group | grep dacs assuming dacs is your username. |
| 08:37.56 | PiousMinion | dacs: If you don't see haldaemon and netdev you can add yourself to the group with: adduser dacs netdev and adduser dacs haldaemon |
| 08:38.52 | PiousMinion | again... assuming your username is dacs. :P |
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| 08:39.25 | DaemonDEB | I did some experimenting with preemtion and HZ settings on my laptop |
| 08:39.38 | dacs | PiousMinion: thank you, Yes i am for netdev. but i don't see my name for haldaemon |
| 08:39.59 | DaemonDEB | nothing you do really makes it perform better or get any better battery life, they're ricer mods |
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| 08:40.49 | dacs | PiousMinion: so i added my self to haldaemon. i will quit and logoff gnome and come back |
| 08:40.56 | DaemonDEB | the only real night and day difference is between no preempt and voluntary preempt |
| 08:41.19 | PiousMinion | dacs: that, and make sure that all lines not containing "lo" are commented out in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 08:53.47 | PiousMinion | I think dacs might have killed his ethernet connection via /etc/network/interfaces commenting. lol |
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| 08:54.26 | PiousMinion | dacs: all good? |
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| 08:54.35 | dacs | PiousMinion: nope sir |
| 08:54.46 | zophy | what should i use for a vpn with debian ? |
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| 08:55.35 | PiousMinion | zophy: there's openvpn, I think network-manager has some support for it to. |
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| 08:55.54 | PiousMinion | dacs: so no network-manager icon in tray? |
| 08:56.17 | dacs | PiousMinion: there is a network -manager but i don't see wireless on it |
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| 08:56.44 | Xeross | hey guys i want to install an mta with smarthost and that uses rollernet smtp redirection |
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| 08:57.15 | Xeross | so any good place to start |
| 08:57.22 | Xeross | cus i dont know how it works and all |
| 08:57.24 | Xeross | never installed one |
| 08:57.44 | PiousMinion | dacs: ok, then we know this is a wireless only issue. What does "iwconfig" say? |
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| 08:58.26 | PiousMinion | Xeross: no \n clue. \n never \n done \n that. \n |
| 08:59.29 | dacs | PiousMinion: eth1 radio off |
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| 09:00.06 | PiousMinion | dacs: well that could be a problem. Does your laptop have a button for the wireless? |
| 09:00.16 | dacs | PiousMinion: is iwconfig like ifconfig, were i can do iwconfig eth1 up |
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| 09:00.40 | PiousMinion | dacs: kinda not really. iwconfig is just for the wireless aspects of it. you still need ifconfig. |
| 09:00.41 | dacs | PiousMinion: yes, and i keep pushing it and it doesn't turn on |
| 09:01.03 | PiousMinion | dacs: you can enable radio via command. trying to remember how. heh |
| 09:01.22 | dacs | PiousMinion: ifup eth1 |
| 09:01.28 | dacs | :) |
| 09:01.30 | Xeross | PiousMinion: Sorry for the overuse of linebreaks |
| 09:01.46 | PiousMinion | Xeross: at least you got the hint. hehe :P |
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| 09:02.11 | dacs | PiousMinion: http://paste.debian.net/30624/ |
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| 09:02.36 | Xeross | PiousMinion: Well i guess i should go google. So what mta you recommend exim ? |
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| 09:03.07 | PiousMinion | Xeross: sorry, never really messed with mtas. :/ |
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| 09:03.45 | Xeross | PiousMinion: Ok, ill just try exim |
| 09:04.58 | PiousMinion | dacs: this is an ipw2200 ? |
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| 09:05.19 | dacs | PiousMinion: yes |
| 09:05.57 | PiousMinion | dacs: Just dbl-checking, but did you install the firmware and reload the module? |
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| 09:06.56 | dacs | PiousMinion: yes i insalled it and reboot |
| 09:07.33 | PiousMinion | dacs: I have a ipw2200 as well in my laptop. gonna boot it up real quick to jog my memory. |
| 09:08.48 | dacs | PiousMinion: cool thanks |
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| 09:13.54 | jintxo | hello guys, I would like to know the "debian way" of saving iptables to make the rules persistent across reoots. I know I can manually use iptables-save and iptables-restore but would like to know the "automagic" way of this happening. thanks. |
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| 09:17.21 | PiousMinion | dacs: try: iwconfig eth1 txpower on |
| 09:17.25 | potyl | How do I install compiz in lenny? This seems old http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz |
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| 09:18.07 | PiousMinion | potyl: install compiz.... or set up X for compositing to allow compiz to work? |
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| 09:18.22 | potyl | yep |
| 09:18.36 | PiousMinion | there was an "or". which one? :P |
| 09:19.40 | potyl | I would like to have the 3d effects just as I did in ubuntu before I installed Lenny. I have an nvidia card and the driver is loaded (glxgears was fast enough) |
| 09:20.06 | potyl | PiousMinion: I'm guessing that I want the "allow compiz to work" part of your question |
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| 09:21.08 | dacs | PiousMinion: now i get unassociated ESSID:"" |
| 09:21.54 | PiousMinion | potyl: well one comes before the other. We have to make sure compiz is installed before we can be sure wether or not it works. I installed just about everything that looked relevant in this list: apt-cache search compiz |
| 09:22.11 | PiousMinion | dacs: awesome. Now does network-manager show APs? |
| 09:22.56 | potyl | I'm using gnome so I will give compiz-gnome a try |
| 09:23.01 | dacs | PiousMinion: no |
| 09:23.27 | PiousMinion | dacs: is there an option to disable wireless support when you right-click? |
| 09:24.01 | dacs | PiousMinion: no, and the wireless led is still off |
| 09:24.20 | megatog615 | now if i try to mount an ext4 fs as ext3, will it give me wrong fs type error? |
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| 09:24.58 | megatog615 | i'm afraid of accidentally mounting an ext4 partition with an older kernel |
| 09:25.08 | Dave|id | anyone here an expert on mrtg |
| 09:25.13 | PiousMinion | potyl: I like to have all options for compiz so this is the line I used: apt-get install compiz compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compizconfig-backend-gconf compizconfig-settings-manager fusion-icon |
| 09:25.17 | Dave|id | my graphs have gone all red and green all of a sudden |
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| 09:25.31 | Dave|id | and the mrtg efnet chan is no more |
| 09:25.57 | dacs | PiousMinion: they way i installed the firmware is aptitude install firmware-ipw2x00 |
| 09:26.05 | PiousMinion | dacs: wireless LED doesn't work for me in linux either. I ignore it. try: iwconfig eth1 essid auto |
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| 09:26.16 | PiousMinion | dacs: that's fine |
| 09:26.57 | PiousMinion | dacs: ...and I know it sounds crazy, but a reboot couldn't hurt. lol |
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| 09:27.32 | PiousMinion | potyl: after that I just run "fusion-icon" at startup to load compiz. |
| 09:30.14 | dacs | PiousMinion: take a look at my dmesg http://paste.debian.net/30625/ |
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| 09:31.11 | PiousMinion | dacs: that is beyond my understanding. :/ |
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| 09:32.11 | PiousMinion | dacs: I'd try a reboot for shits and giggles. |
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| 09:33.06 | potyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.08 | Xeross | How can i change the port exim runs on ? using split config ? |
| 09:33.26 | PiousMinion | potyl: :D |
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| 09:33.58 | potyl | It's incredible how many useless plugins compiz has ! |
| 09:34.12 | Xeross | potyl: Haha |
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| 09:34.32 | PiousMinion | hehe |
| 09:36.15 | cahoot | dacs: your bios doesn't offer the option to choose what method toggles killswitch? |
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| 09:36.37 | cahoot | dacs: like os vs fn-key |
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| 09:54.08 | Xeross | i accidentally deleted my exim config files how can i get em back |
| 09:54.12 | Xeross | dpkg doesnt generate them |
| 09:54.12 | dpkg | Xeross: are you using Windows? |
| 09:54.41 | Xeross | dpkg: As a workstation yes as a linux server no |
| 09:54.41 | dpkg | Xeross: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 09:55.45 | jayyy | whats the command to find to search for packages which contain a certain file? |
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| 09:57.23 | Mikey | Hey All |
| 09:57.40 | Mikey | How do I set the theme for gtk apps in kde ? |
| 09:57.55 | Mikey | I dont find that option in kde control centre |
| 09:58.00 | Mikey | center* |
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| 09:59.21 | nkuttler | !tell jayyy about search |
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| 10:00.19 | nkuttler | !tell Xeross about confmiss |
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| 10:01.52 | Xeross | nkuttler: It fixed itself after i purged and reinstalled 2 times |
| 10:03.15 | jayyy | How do i install String::Approx? |
| 10:03.29 | Mikey | in my xorg.conf, how do I modify the video driver to intel ? |
| 10:04.00 | PiousMinion | Xeross: dpkg is the bot. lol |
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| 10:04.49 | ThomasUK | mikey: http://www.gogo.to/mrsamx |
| 10:04.56 | nkuttler | jayyy: apt-cache search foo |
| 10:05.11 | dacs_ | !seen PiousMinion |
| 10:05.11 | dpkg | piousminion is currently on #debian (2h 7m 58s). Has said a total of 49 messages. Is idling for 1m 11s, last said: 'Xeross: dpkg is the bot. lol'. |
| 10:05.26 | PiousMinion | dpkg, stop looking at me. lol |
| 10:05.27 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, PiousMinion |
| 10:05.38 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: lol, found ya! |
| 10:05.44 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: i got it to work |
| 10:05.57 | PiousMinion | dacs: sweet. the reboot do the trick? |
| 10:06.01 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: listen do you want to have your led to work |
| 10:06.02 | Mikey | ThomasUK: what do u want me to see in that link ? |
| 10:06.10 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: nope, without the reboot |
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| 10:06.16 | PiousMinion | dacs: would be nice. I'm listening. |
| 10:06.29 | ThomasUK | the xorg example. |
| 10:06.31 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: and i got the LED to work as well |
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| 10:06.46 | ThomasUK | check pos t# |
| 10:06.47 | ThomasUK | 4 |
| 10:06.58 | Mikey | shouldnt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , do that |
| 10:07.12 | Mikey | I tried that but still it only shows configured video device |
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| 10:07.40 | zophy | the problem with the internet is that it is scentless, there is no human scent factor associated with any information on the net |
| 10:07.55 | zophy | humans commune with scent |
| 10:07.56 | PiousMinion | Mikey: Xorg is smarter these days and configures itself at runtime.... unless you specifically tell it to do something else. |
| 10:08.03 | zophy | a lot of it |
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| 10:08.31 | Mikey | PiousMinion: how do I tell it to use intel driver instead of vesa |
| 10:08.33 | Avatar_ | hello, yesterday I made an aptitude to lenny, with mysql ..., now phpmyadmin shows me: #1030 - Got error 28 from storage engine, but php and mysql run under apache2 and work, does somebody now the reason ? |
| 10:08.46 | jayyy | where is apache's cgi bin folder on debian? |
| 10:08.48 | dacs_ | i just installed iceweasel and i want to get rid of the eiephany browser how can i do that please |
| 10:09.11 | Mikey | dacs_: aptitude remove epiphany-browser |
| 10:09.13 | PiousMinion | Mikey: add the line: Driver "intel" in the video section. I'm sure you can find an example if you google. |
| 10:09.18 | Avatar_ | phpMyAdmin - 2.11.8.1deb5, Server Version: 5.0.51a-3 |
| 10:09.28 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: does Lenny have an option like hibrnate for laptops |
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| 10:09.59 | PiousMinion | dacs: yep, make sure you are a member of the powerdev group. |
| 10:10.03 | Mikey | PiousMinion: thanks, let me check it |
| 10:10.21 | zophy | pet my clamy cold froggy tummy |
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| 10:10.22 | PiousMinion | dacs: there's more to it than just being in that group, but I can't recall. |
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| 10:12.06 | zophy | how should i change the queer root:staff ownership into a debian sane ownership ? |
| 10:12.39 | hatter1 | when i do this from command line : rsync -avz /usr/src/test.sh | sendmail -r test@test.com me@me.com , the email gets sent, when i tell cron to run it in a script, it doesnt work, any ideas why ? |
| 10:12.39 | zophy | the owner of the running process is nobody |
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| 10:13.02 | sigius | If I define a static configuration for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, where would be the logical place to define the nameserver ? Setting it manually in /etc/resolv.conf seems wrong as this file gets overwritten when I use on of my dhcp-type interfaces instead |
| 10:13.38 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: got it |
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| 10:14.07 | cahoot | sigius: I'd suggest dhclient.conf |
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| 10:14.24 | hoxu | !tell sigius about resolv.conf |
| 10:14.40 | Defender | or /etc/hosts |
| 10:14.46 | PiousMinion | hatter1: well, you aren't specifying full paths. that could be it. |
| 10:14.48 | dacs_ | i did aptitude remove epiphany-browser but it is still showing in my internet menu |
| 10:15.06 | PiousMinion | dacs_: dpkg -l | grep epiphany |
| 10:15.07 | PiousMinion | :P |
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| 10:15.39 | PiousMinion | loves " | grep [string]". :) |
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| 10:16.49 | sigius | cahoot, thanks I'll look into that one |
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| 10:17.04 | sigius | hoxu, what about resolv.conf ? |
| 10:17.16 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: i know...me too :P |
| 10:17.31 | hoxu | sigius, read the factoid |
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| 10:19.01 | dacs_ | uh crap my sound is not working...oh well i will work on it tomorrow, as of now i gtg to bed .... |
| 10:19.09 | dacs_ | yawn |
| 10:19.32 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: what dvd burning tool you use in your laptop mate |
| 10:19.56 | dacs_ | wonder if anyone here from Sudan?! |
| 10:20.28 | PiousMinion | dacs_: I don't use optical media for anything other than OS installs and I try to avoid it then as well. |
| 10:20.51 | PiousMinion | glares at his 700+ feature film media server. |
| 10:21.02 | dacs_ | PiousMinion: hahah , if that tells me something, it will be a "Downloader" |
| 10:21.10 | PiousMinion | :P |
| 10:21.12 | sigius | hoxu, did you notice I mentioned resolv.conf was unsuited ?. What should I be looking for in the factoid ? |
| 10:21.27 | hatter1 | PiousMinion, that was the problem, not full paths. thx. |
| 10:21.41 | PiousMinion | hatter1: np. :) |
| 10:21.49 | petemc | sigius: that factoid contains info on how to make sure its not overwritten |
| 10:21.50 | hoxu | sigius, /msg dpkg resolv.conf |
| 10:22.06 | cahoot | sigius: how to config your system to get a functional resolv.conf |
| 10:22.23 | hoxu | petemc, actually, that one tells you how to supersede the DHCP servers in dhclient config, which is what most people want to do |
| 10:22.28 | petemc | yes |
| 10:22.41 | petemc | which is functionally the same as making sure its not overwritten |
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| 10:24.29 | zophy | if some software installs with ownership root:staff, what should i change it to ? |
| 10:24.53 | zophy | this is squid actually |
| 10:25.08 | sigius | petemc, actually I want resolv.conf to be overwritten (when using one of my dhcp configurations) |
| 10:25.12 | Internat | ok im apparently being stupid. how do i recursivly find all rar files from a directory down, and output the full path/filename? |
| 10:25.26 | zophy | use find |
| 10:25.33 | zophy | ls sucks |
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| 10:25.47 | multi_io | has anyone ever managed to subscribe to a podcast in Rhythmbox? |
| 10:25.57 | jeff_hann | i guess :) |
| 10:26.08 | petemc | sigius: so the info in that factoid is relevant - did you even bother to read it? |
| 10:26.15 | hoxu | Internat, find '*.rar' # man find |
| 10:26.23 | multi_io | I figure this is equivalent to solving the halting problem. |
| 10:26.45 | zophy | find directoryname -iname \*rar\* |
| 10:26.47 | Internat | ah, i wasnt quoting the '' part |
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| 10:27.51 | sigius | petemc, no, I dont know what a factoid is. I was reacting to your comment |
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| 10:29.44 | hoxu | sigius, I told you to "/msg dpkg resolv.conf" - is this your first time on IRC? Do you know how to /msg people/bots? |
| 10:29.54 | zophy | too much info can be raped, too little info can be aped |
| 10:30.05 | PiousMinion | I'm bored. I think I might make a transparent apt-proxy and then write a howto on it. hehe |
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| 10:31.52 | mcbane | hi |
| 10:31.54 | sigius | hoxu, No. No, I never use it. |
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| 10:32.47 | sigius | hoxu, seems like /msg dpkg resolv.conf does not do anything. could the bot be offline ? |
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| 10:33.33 | hatter1 | i notice sometimes after i have delete a file, df doesnt show the space change straight away , why is that ? |
| 10:33.59 | cahoot | sigius: it's alive - the result is probably in another irc windows |
| 10:34.11 | cahoot | err window |
| 10:34.21 | hoxu | hatter1, the files can be still open by a process |
| 10:34.33 | sigius | cahoot, it is indeed, thanks |
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| 10:35.13 | hoxu | sigius, http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html#part2 |
| 10:36.09 | mcbane | I have a usb hd attached to my pc. On the hd is one lvm partition. How do I get lenny to search for volumegroups on the usb hd at boot time automaticly? Now I have to do vgscan && vgchange -a y |
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| 10:36.56 | jeff_hann | mcbane, a cron job will do |
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| 10:37.35 | mcbane | jeff_hann: cron? I thought cron is for recurring time based tasks? |
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| 10:38.10 | jeff_hann | it is |
| 10:38.34 | jeff_hann | mcbane, what wm are you using? |
| 10:38.48 | mcbane | jeff_hann: none. It is a headless pc. |
| 10:39.30 | jeff_hann | oh |
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| 10:40.49 | hatter1 | mcbane, when do you do vgscan ? after the pc is booted ? |
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| 10:43.22 | mcbane | hatter1: If I do a vgscan and vgchange I get all my volumes from the usb drive. The problem is, that they are not recognized at boot time so that they get not mounted automaticly |
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| 10:44.24 | p0g0 | mcbane: does the device get recognized tho, and hence shouldn't you be able to write a udev rule to mount it? |
| 10:44.37 | sigius | hoxu, cahoot , thanks for the pointers |
| 10:44.56 | Mr-D | Can anyone tell me where i could find a driver for a "samsung HS082HB" hdd, since the debian-installer (testing-i386-netinst.iso) seems not to recognize the harddrive. |
| 10:45.01 | hatter1 | mcbane, if you want to run vgscan at boot time, you can add a little script in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 10:45.20 | mcbane | p0g0: I guess it is recognized at boot time, but I do not know for sure |
| 10:45.36 | p0g0 | mcbane: you should have an event listed in dmeg & /var/log/messages registering that the usb system has seen new device. |
| 10:45.48 | mcbane | hatter1: yeah, I thought of that, but thought of it as a little bit "unclean" |
| 10:46.07 | hatter1 | mcbane, unclean ? who cares ? its 2 lines long. |
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| 10:46.33 | hatter1 | mcbane, you could probable use autofs to mount it when automatically when you acces sit |
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| 10:46.47 | hatter1 | autofs works great |
| 10:46.52 | hatter1 | i use it for usb drives |
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| 10:47.15 | p0g0 | mcbane: hang on, I'll show you a udev rule I use. |
| 10:47.21 | mcbane | hatter1: as I understand it it would only work if the volume group is already recognized. And that is my problem ;) |
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| 10:48.00 | hatter1 | mcbane, then make a script to run vgscan at boot time |
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| 10:49.42 | mcbane | p0g0: I see the device listed in dmesg |
| 10:49.56 | jayyy | If i install mplayer on a headless server, it wont download a desktop manger right? I just want to be able to use mplayer ot get video information |
| 10:50.51 | p0g0 | mcbane: I have a udev rule file, "10.usbtest.rules" that contains a single line: SUBSYSTEMS++"usb", ATTRS{serial}=="0123456789", SYMLINK+="patriotUSB", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/MyScript.sh" |
| 10:50.56 | DaemonDEB | is there a reason Debian doesn't have Pulseaudio? |
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| 10:51.09 | sethy | hola |
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| 10:51.55 | mcbane | p0g0: thank you very much. I will try that |
| 10:52.02 | p0g0 | mcbane: that will recognize the usb with serial number 0123456789, make a symlink in /proc/devices called patriotUSB and run the script /usr/local/bin/MyScript |
| 10:52.13 | p0g0 | mcbane: However! |
| 10:52.33 | sethy | i'm sat here looking at my VMware screen, trying to install Lenny from CD onto there, and i am not sure if it has stopped or halted or is lagging at 26% but its 'preparing python2.5', any idea whats going on? |
| 10:52.55 | hatter1 | p0g0, hey thats cool |
| 10:52.56 | Defender | sethy: python needs some time |
| 10:52.57 | Jemt | sethy: Try accessing one of the terminals |
| 10:52.57 | p0g0 | mcbane: udev will trigger somewhere between 2 and 8 times on a single insertion of the USB- your script needs to manage that it might be called too many times, and re-entrantly |
| 10:53.16 | Jemt | sethy: ALT + F1-F5 |
| 10:53.17 | sethy | its been like this for 15 minutes... |
| 10:53.51 | Jemt | sethy: 15 minutes? Sounds like it's dead to me |
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| 10:54.23 | sethy | ok f1 is the install screen, f2 is now the console, f4 is log |
| 10:54.52 | Jemt | sethy: I had the same problem the other day - the installer stopped while downloading packages |
| 10:55.11 | sethy | yeah this is the 5th attempt of install for me |
| 10:55.22 | sethy | last time it just hanged after retriving packages |
| 10:55.26 | Jemt | sethy: It always stops at the same package? |
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| 10:55.38 | sethy | no |
| 10:55.49 | sethy | its like it literally has a mind of its own and installs what it wants |
| 10:56.08 | Jemt | sethy: Did you install any packages besides "Standard System" ? |
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| 10:56.37 | Ace2017_- | Hi all |
| 10:56.37 | sethy | all except print servers |
| 10:56.59 | Ace2017_- | does the package linux-kbuild-2.6.28 not exist yet? i searched on packages.debian.org but its not there |
| 10:57.31 | Jemt | sethy: I would recommend a "Standard System". You can then install the packages from your terminal. You don't need that many packages to get Gnome up and running - from there, you can install what ever you need using a GUI program |
| 10:57.52 | misfotto | anyone knows if there's a lib in c/c++ for the MD5 algorithm that can generate an md5 Hash from a file ? |
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| 10:58.18 | sethy | http://whirry.org/~sethiroth66/python.jpg |
| 10:58.31 | jayyy | what program can i use to get info from a media file |
| 10:58.41 | jayyy | length, codec, size etc |
| 10:58.46 | Ace2017_- | Can you use the ubuntu kernel in debian? |
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| 10:59.29 | sethy | Jemt: see link |
| 11:00.26 | valdyn | jayyy: no single program can cover this, mplayer probably gets close |
| 11:00.30 | cahoot | jayyy: mplayer |
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| 11:01.02 | jayyy | cahoot,valdyn, im running a headless server, will instaaling mplayer install a desktop maanger or unesscary libraries? |
| 11:01.07 | Acer | i have a problem with lightning calendar and icedove |
| 11:01.11 | Acer | i can't create events |
| 11:01.18 | valdyn | jayyy: why care? |
| 11:01.21 | valdyn | jayyy: disk space? |
| 11:01.23 | sethy | restarting install |
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| 11:01.32 | Jemt | sethy: I'm not one of the hardcore kernel guys, but the output on your screen dosn't seem to indicate any problems |
| 11:01.35 | jayyy | valdyn curious |
| 11:01.42 | valdyn | jayyy: so try it |
| 11:02.25 | sethy | Jemt: i restarted anyway, many thanks :) |
| 11:02.43 | Jemt | sethy: Okay :) |
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| 11:03.17 | sethy | now the bootloader doesnt load xD |
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| 11:03.31 | sethy | makes deletes old and makes new machine |
| 11:03.43 | xingu | misfotto: there's doubtless such an animal out there, yes; but the code isn't hard, see MD5_{Init,Update,Final} from openssl |
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| 11:04.47 | sethy | that beep is annoying... |
| 11:05.12 | Avatar_ | can somebody help me please? here is my error description: http://rafb.net/p/NTkKT732.html thx :) |
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| 11:05.29 | Jemt | sethy: Seems Debian isn't too happy about running in VMWare :-/ |
| 11:06.07 | Jemt | sethy: You don't have a weird configuration that could cause problems ? |
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| 11:06.17 | Jemt | VMWare configuration that is |
| 11:06.36 | p0g0 | misfotto: md5sum |
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| 11:07.54 | sethy | no |
| 11:07.57 | mcbane | p0g0: I need some help. I created the following udev rule: SUBSYSTEMS++"usb", ATTRS{serial}=="00E63Fa7", RUN+="vgscan && vgchange -a y" |
| 11:08.02 | sethy | its standard vmware 6.5 |
| 11:08.09 | sethy | bridged connection |
| 11:08.11 | mcbane | however, the volume group is not detected |
| 11:08.14 | sethy | 1 processor only |
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| 11:09.38 | p0g0 | mcbane: the runtime enfironment for the script is not what you'd expect- try using fully qualified file names (absolute paths). |
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| 11:09.45 | p0g0 | *environment |
| 11:09.59 | mcbane | p0g0: ok |
| 11:10.26 | p0g0 | mcbane: also, as I said, you'll want to write a script that can manage being called too many times, and called while it is already running. |
| 11:11.25 | mcbane | p0g0: I will do that. For now I just want to make a very basic and ugly approach. I will beautify it later ;) |
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| 11:12.35 | batcoder-7 | my typing isgetting wore |
| 11:12.37 | batcoder-7 | wow |
| 11:12.50 | batcoder-7 | i need to do some practicing for sure |
| 11:13.40 | sethy | maybe its when i accidentaly alt+tab in the session? picks up the tab and goes OSPAIUDT |
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| 11:14.52 | Avatar_ | valdyn, could you tell me, is this a system problem or a mysql problem? http://rafb.net/p/NTkKT732.html thx 4 feedback |
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| 11:17.18 | mosted | Hello tout le monde !!! |
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| 11:20.57 | Defender | hi |
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| 11:22.19 | infinity0 | how do i change tty video setttings? |
| 11:22.49 | sethy | how would one go about getting directory information in console? |
| 11:23.02 | sethy | like disk size |
| 11:23.10 | petemc | du |
| 11:23.18 | p0g0 | df |
| 11:24.48 | sethy | df uses bytes or KB? |
| 11:25.05 | sethy | just says 1K blocks... |
| 11:25.09 | p0g0 | man df |
| 11:25.41 | sethy | ah ok thanks |
| 11:25.51 | nareshov | infinity0: vga= parameter to the kernel line |
| 11:25.54 | nareshov | google it |
| 11:26.01 | infinity0 | right, ok, thanks |
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| 11:27.40 | drojan | Hello everybody. I'm trying to properly set up my screen resolution in Debian Lenny running under MacOSX through VirtualBox. I've perfectly managed to achieve my 1440x900 res in the X conf file with no major problems, I only struggle when trying to apply the same resolution to the console or tty mode since my Grub doesn't recognize any decimal or hexadecimal parameter for my res I pass to it apart from the ones that already come predefined. Is |
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| 11:27.56 | guzu | hello all |
| 11:28.04 | nareshov | !hi @ guzu |
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| 11:31.05 | Ace2017_- | is it possible to uninstall the currently running kernel? |
| 11:31.14 | Ace2017_- | what would happen if the package manager removed it? |
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| 11:31.32 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: probably nothing |
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| 11:31.34 | ech01 | Hello tout le monde !!! |
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| 11:31.42 | Defender | hi |
| 11:31.44 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: but it wouldnt just remove it without warning you |
| 11:31.47 | guzu | x is not running here. debian 500 fresh installed . gives a black screen. also, in console i have a black screen too. however keyboard is still alive. i see no errors in xorg.log |
| 11:33.17 | DeadLock | I'm having some troubles to install debian (lenny from usb pen drive, netinstall, moved it onto the drive with unetbootin) to get it installed, i can't get trough the 'mounting cdrom' step |
| 11:33.55 | Ace2017_- | usually ignores warnings |
| 11:34.01 | Ace2017_- | and a few scripts have sudo aptitude ... in them |
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| 11:36.34 | nkuttler | guzu: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 11:37.26 | slavsun | hi |
| 11:38.17 | guzu | nkuttler, the bug looks like this |
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| 11:38.28 | guzu | nkuttler, i'll paste the file asap |
| 11:38.39 | guzu | nkuttler, please wait because it's an old computer :) |
| 11:38.49 | slavsun | I have a question: if to make a system using debootstrap, then make an img file from it, and then to load this img file to disk (/dev/sda for instance), will it work or not? |
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| 11:39.22 | Rienzilla | that can work, yes, provided the image fits on the disk |
| 11:39.51 | Rienzilla | and for a raw disk you may need a partition table first and load it ontoa partition |
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| 11:40.10 | guzu | nkuttler, the bug looks like this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=440185 sorry :) |
| 11:40.35 | petemc | slavsun: you will probably need to install grub in the mbr |
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| 11:42.37 | gps23 | hi |
| 11:42.44 | bittin | hi |
| 11:43.41 | gps23 | can i ask here questions related to testing release? |
| 11:43.44 | nkuttler | guzu: but into single user mode and disable X |
| 11:44.03 | guzu | nkuttler, how can i disable x? |
| 11:44.57 | slavsun | petemc, Rienzilla I have to make a Emdebian distro using debootstrap |
| 11:45.06 | drojan | guzu: from your booting process you mean? |
| 11:45.06 | nkuttler | guzu: you could disable gdm, use rcconf for example |
| 11:45.18 | slavsun | and after that to make img from that |
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| 11:45.38 | guzu | nkuttler, thnx, i'll try rcconf |
| 11:45.42 | guzu | drojan, yes |
| 11:45.51 | slavsun | then get flash card from some device and to copy img to this flash card |
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| 11:46.24 | slavsun | petemc, Rienzilla as I understand, anyway I have to make a swap? |
| 11:46.31 | kernel | hi,program for capture audio/video? |
| 11:46.33 | drojan | guzu: just rename the gdm entry from the run level your computer starts (probably 2 or 3) in /etc/rcX.d/ |
| 11:47.00 | guzu | drojan, i assume i can move it |
| 11:47.14 | petemc | slavsun: its possible to create a file and use that as swap |
| 11:47.20 | drojan | guzu: adding an underscore to the entry should suffice. To move it is up to you. |
| 11:47.26 | gps23 | anybody using squeeze? |
| 11:47.29 | guzu | drojan, thnx a lot |
| 11:47.55 | drojan | guzu: welcome :) |
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| 11:49.52 | slavsun | petemc, is there a possibility to make a swap in debootstrap distro ? I mean to make a swap in img file ? ans install grub there ? just to copy img to flash card and get working system |
| 11:49.53 | slavsun | ? |
| 11:50.26 | frog_ | hi, is therre any system - spellchecker(i mean, that it works "everywhere", no matter in which appllication i type? |
| 11:50.38 | petemc | slavsun: im not sure about that, its not something ive done |
| 11:50.54 | nareshov | !spell |
| 11:51.05 | nareshov | !spellcheck |
| 11:51.06 | slavsun | petemc, how to use a file as swap ? |
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| 11:51.15 | slavsun | which command ? |
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| 11:52.26 | petemc | dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/file bs=1024 count=1024 , mkswap /path/to/file ; swapon file |
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| 11:52.42 | petemc | something like that, adjust size to suit |
| 11:52.43 | zardosh | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.08 | slavsun | petemc, thanks |
| 11:53.18 | gps23 | i upgraded from stable to testing (squeeze), now i am facing bug #517450. (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=517450) someone please help |
| 11:53.30 | slavsun | petemc, how to make an img from debootstrap directory? |
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| 11:54.49 | petemc | slavsun: how do you plan on putting this image onto the other system? |
| 11:55.59 | slavsun | petemc, this device has the flash card, I get it card and put it into card reader at my computer, than copy img to this card |
| 11:56.21 | slavsun | then I return the card to the device |
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| 11:57.41 | slavsun | petemc, will this approach work ? |
| 11:58.23 | petemc | slavsun: thats not an uncommon scenario, i think its covered in the install guide |
| 11:58.49 | slavsun | could you give me a link, please ? |
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| 11:59.07 | petemc | i dont have one to hand, look for it yoursel;f |
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| 12:00.43 | gps23 | i upgraded from stable to testing (squeeze), now i am facing bug #517450. (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=517450) someone please help |
| 12:01.10 | enouf | !tell zardosh -about using find |
| 12:01.33 | Arrowmaster | gps23: use mplayer? |
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| 12:02.14 | gps23 | Arrowmaster, i am using mplayer now, but i have .3gp files which open in vlc |
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| 12:03.26 | gps23 | Arrowmaster, also the bug contains a reply on how to correct it but i don't know how will it work |
| 12:04.08 | Arrowmaster | no clue, i dont use vlc |
| 12:04.32 | enouf | gps23: is this related? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486096 |
| 12:05.02 | enouf | i don't know 3gp thingys |
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| 12:11.10 | gps23 | enouf, somewhat related, but the solution doesn't work for me. the reason for both of these bugs is using debian-multimedia repo |
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| 12:12.37 | guzu | nkuttler, http://rafb.net/paste/p/v4FBWv73.html |
| 12:12.48 | guzu | nkuttler, i disabled x |
| 12:12.51 | nareshov | you'd be better of maintaining your own build of mplayer, imo |
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| 12:13.57 | gps23 | nareshov, is this for me? |
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| 12:14.33 | enouf | gps23: vlc, mplayer etc from debian-multimedia work fine for me - maybe you ought to rethink proprietary crap formats - but try #videolan nd build your own then |
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| 12:15.58 | kamp2tux | aptitude install java6-runtime --what else to do to enable the java plugin in iceweasel ? TQ |
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| 12:16.24 | maligor | you need to install the webplugin |
| 12:16.32 | gps23 | enouf, vlc is working fine with .mpg format. its the codec package libavcodec51 which is causing problems while playing .avi files |
| 12:16.34 | ziroday | Hi, would anyone know why ssh is laggy? (I mean just typing in text is slow) |
| 12:16.50 | maligor | kamp2tux, on i386 the plugin might be in the jre tho |
| 12:17.07 | nareshov | ziroday: slow connection? |
| 12:17.08 | gps23 | even though there is libavcodec52 present but still vlc requires libavcodec51 only |
| 12:17.14 | enouf | gps23: avi is a container, nothing to do with codecs |
| 12:17.16 | kamp2tux | my system is running Lenny 64-bit |
| 12:17.19 | ziroday | nareshov: for text? |
| 12:17.25 | nareshov | ziroday: or loaded pc? (check uptime, it shows load) |
| 12:17.41 | enouf | and, it's a crappy container at that |
| 12:17.42 | ziroday | nareshov: nope load is fine |
| 12:17.50 | nareshov | then it must be a slow connection |
| 12:17.53 | nareshov | i guess |
| 12:17.54 | ziroday | nareshov: must be the connection, but god its driving me nuts |
| 12:18.16 | p0g0 | ziroday: wireless or wired? |
| 12:18.29 | ziroday | nareshov: any ideas on how to speed it up if it were the connection? |
| 12:18.30 | gps23 | alright, seems like i have to stay with mplayer while checking the bug status periodically |
| 12:18.46 | DaemonDEB | ipv6 |
| 12:18.49 | ziroday | p0g0: I'm on wireless, the server is wired (duh) but my internet for everything else is fine |
| 12:18.54 | DaemonDEB | kill it and everything's better |
| 12:18.55 | enouf | or learn how to compile shit ;-) |
| 12:18.57 | DaemonDEB | B-) |
| 12:19.34 | DaemonDEB | Debian still has some major problems with ipv6, and it's on by default |
| 12:19.41 | DaemonDEB | I turn it off on anything though |
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| 12:19.45 | nareshov | gps23: compile mplayer off svn, it's not too difficult, and the latest h264-decoding would be faster |
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| 12:19.54 | PiousMinion | make: *** No rule to make target `shit'. Stop. |
| 12:20.10 | guzu | :) |
| 12:20.10 | PiousMinion | I can't compile shit. |
| 12:20.14 | p0g0 | ziroday: there are instances in wireless connections that can cuase that- I doubt I can remember the fix, (the one I am thinking of is specific to atheros NICs), but it was a shared mem thing, iirc. It's been a few years since I saw that. |
| 12:20.14 | PiousMinion | :P |
| 12:20.18 | gps23 | enouf, i do know how to compile bro, its just that i don't think its the solution as problem lies with codec package. my fault, i shouldn't have used outside repo |
| 12:20.26 | gps23 | nareshov, mplayer is working fine |
| 12:20.33 | nareshov | o, ok |
| 12:20.33 | ziroday | p0g0: nah it just seems to be network latency |
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| 12:21.09 | p0g0 | ziroday: you go to wired & ssh is as slow still? |
| 12:21.21 | xy|ox | DaemonDEB, how you turned off ipv6? |
| 12:21.34 | ziroday | p0g0: yes, but its just network latency |
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| 12:21.56 | enouf | PiousMinion: eat more; it'll automake :-P |
| 12:22.06 | PiousMinion | rofl |
| 12:22.10 | p0g0 | ziroday: OK, if you get the same outcome eitherway, it's not the wireless. |
| 12:22.20 | DaemonDEB | Create /etc/modprobe.d/00local |
| 12:22.23 | DaemonDEB | add |
| 12:22.27 | DaemonDEB | alias net-pf-10 off |
| 12:22.34 | DaemonDEB | alias ipv6 off |
| 12:22.38 | DaemonDEB | reboot |
| 12:23.00 | xy|ox | thanks |
| 12:23.45 | drojan_ | Hello everybody. I'm trying to properly set up my screen resolution in Debian Lenny running under MacOSX through VirtualBox. I've perfectly managed to achieve my 1440x900 res in the X conf file with no major problems, I only struggle when trying to apply the same resolution to the console or tty mode since my Grub doesn't recognize any decimal or hexadecimal parameter for my res I pass to it apart from the ones that already come predefined. I |
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| 12:25.44 | RoenieSrvr | i have some suspect binaries of which i don't know what they'll do |
| 12:25.59 | RoenieSrvr | how safe is it to run those in a chrooted environment? |
| 12:26.01 | valdyn | !debsums |
| 12:26.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, debsums is a package that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will cause it to check config files. |
| 12:26.08 | RoenieSrvr | (as non-root user) |
| 12:26.37 | valdyn | RoenieSrvr: not safe at all |
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| 12:27.22 | RoenieSrvr | can you tell me why? |
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| 12:27.44 | valdyn | RoenieSrvr: chroots dont do that much for security |
| 12:27.46 | enouf | RoenieSrvr: setup and use a VM (not vserver, openvz(?), or any of those that share memory and resources though) |
| 12:28.00 | valdyn | RoenieSrvr: if it can get root in the chroot its the same as if it got room in the real system |
| 12:28.11 | valdyn | RoenieSrvr: s/room/root/ |
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| 12:29.06 | Xeross | guys how can i fix this: http://pastebin.com/m4ef2558c |
| 12:29.11 | RoenieSrvr | ok, thanks guys |
| 12:29.52 | nareshov | wow, b0rkage |
| 12:30.29 | valdyn | !tell Xeross -about ask |
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| 12:31.04 | Xeross | valdyn: I just asked how i can fix those errors and get courier to reinstall |
| 12:31.33 | enouf | RoenieSrvr: if i were in your situation, i'd see what the latest linux containers offer, xen, kvm, lguest and such |
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| 12:31.43 | valdyn | !ask |
| 12:31.43 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 12:32.18 | gps23 | few hours? |
| 12:32.21 | valdyn | Xeross: we still dont know your debian release |
| 12:32.34 | valdyn | Xeross: but on top of that i need your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:32.41 | nkuttler | Xeross: fix the prerm script |
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| 12:33.12 | Xeross | valdyn: Etch |
| 12:33.21 | nkuttler | Xeross: or the init script... read the error |
| 12:33.25 | enouf | gps23: that few hours comment has more to do withinternationalism/sleep/work |
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| 12:33.51 | gps23 | enouf, oh, got |
| 12:33.53 | wonderwal | i sett init scripts call set -e, what does it do? |
| 12:34.00 | wonderwal | man set doesnt exist here :S |
| 12:34.07 | nkuttler | wonderwal: help set |
| 12:34.17 | Xeross | valdyn: and sources.list http://paste2.org/p/164817 |
| 12:34.27 | enouf | man bash-builtins |
| 12:34.43 | petemc | Xeross: dovecot is generally considered superior to courier |
| 12:34.59 | valdyn | Xeross: you deleted the config files on purpose? |
| 12:35.04 | wonderwal | mkuttler: exit immediately if a command exists with a non-zero status, that means? |
| 12:35.33 | nkuttler | wonderwal: no idea. exit the shell? |
| 12:35.44 | wonderwal | hmm |
| 12:35.44 | valdyn | Xeross: the script is barfing because the config file(s) is/are missing |
| 12:35.46 | enouf | s/exists/returns/ |
| 12:35.56 | Xeross | nkuttler: Ive read it(Damn my apostrophe aint working) and its missing a config file so what now |
| 12:36.18 | Xeross | valdyn: I delete them to try and restore the defaults |
| 12:36.23 | Xeross | but apperently it doesnt like it |
| 12:36.26 | valdyn | Xeross: can you put them back easily? |
| 12:36.38 | Xeross | valdyn: AFAIK linux doesnt have a recycle bin |
| 12:36.49 | valdyn | Xeross: no, thats what backups are for |
| 12:36.52 | nareshov | lol |
| 12:37.04 | valdyn | Xeross: it would have been the easiest solution however |
| 12:37.08 | nareshov | Xeross: setup your /etc with a versioning system |
| 12:37.14 | et | Xeross: some linux desktop environments do have |
| 12:37.15 | nareshov | like git or hg or w/e |
| 12:37.26 | Xeross | so how would i force it to put new config file |
| 12:37.33 | Xeross | because my entire aptitude is broken now |
| 12:37.51 | nkuttler | !tell Xeross about confmiss |
| 12:38.02 | enouf | !etckeeper |
| 12:38.03 | valdyn | Xeross: that not going to work atm, you probably have no choice but restoring the config file manually, or since you cant do that, edit the prerm script |
| 12:38.03 | nkuttler | Xeross: although i'm not sure that will work with your broken setup |
| 12:38.15 | valdyn | Xeross: but you can try confmiss anyway, i just dont think it will work |
| 12:38.16 | Xeross | nkuttler: Exactly it doesnt |
| 12:38.21 | nkuttler | Xeross: really, just create a prerm script |
| 12:38.33 | Xeross | nkuttler: Prerm ? |
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| 12:39.26 | valdyn | Xeross: /var/lib/dpkg/info/courier-imap.prerm or somesuch |
| 12:39.26 | nkuttler | Xeross: /var/lib/dpkg/info/courier-imap.prerm #!/bin/sh\nexit 0 |
| 12:39.32 | valdyn | and thats still not going to fix things |
| 12:39.38 | valdyn | just part of the fix |
| 12:40.07 | valdyn | Xeross: edit that prerm file and after that use confmiss |
| 12:40.54 | valdyn | Xeross: prerm files even, that includes courier-pop.prerm too |
| 12:41.05 | Xeross | i did base imap and pop |
| 12:41.22 | Xeross | is this correct: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall courier-base; |
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| 12:42.06 | dmp1 | Hi all |
| 12:42.08 | Xeross | wait sholdnt i remove |
| 12:42.30 | Xeross | hmm doesnt work either |
| 12:42.44 | Xeross | great how i can always duck up my server |
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| 12:43.00 | dmp1 | hi chan, i need to create a customized debian netinst iso |
| 12:43.14 | dmp1 | containing a new kernel |
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| 12:43.23 | asg | dmp1: you can create one from an already running system using bootcd |
| 12:43.33 | stew | dmp1: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 12:43.43 | nkuttler | dmp1: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel |
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| 12:44.17 | dmp1 | ok i give it a look |
| 12:44.38 | Ace2017_- | can anyone recommend a good small font? |
| 12:44.58 | nareshov | Ace2017_-: monospace font? |
| 12:44.58 | Ace2017_- | size 8 is the size i want on my interface but the ones i have tried look aweful :( |
| 12:45.05 | nareshov | or overall? |
| 12:45.13 | dmp1 | @stew @nkuttler |
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| 12:45.17 | nareshov | Ace2017_-: fix your font rendering first |
| 12:45.29 | nareshov | run dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config |
| 12:45.34 | Ace2017_- | well dejavu sans looks fine at 9 |
| 12:45.35 | dmp1 | @stew @nkuttler: so this allow me to create a complete iso containing all software i'm using |
| 12:45.39 | dmp1 | on my machine |
| 12:45.40 | nareshov | and restart X, small fonts will look better then |
| 12:45.43 | valdyn | the default bitstream fonts look fine in small sizes |
| 12:45.54 | stew | dmp1: no, that's what bootcd would do |
| 12:46.53 | Ace2017_- | i'm going to try and find a good small font on dafont.com |
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| 12:48.39 | HaC|away | juhu wirry :) |
| 12:48.53 | wirry | hi |
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| 12:52.50 | Ace2017_- | if i want smaller fonts can i just force dpi to 75 insteead of 100? |
| 12:53.41 | nareshov | Ace2017_-: it'd be best if you set your DPI as reported by your monitor |
| 12:53.49 | nareshov | check xdpyinfo | grep res |
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| 12:54.13 | Ace2017_- | yea its 99x99 |
| 12:54.21 | Ace2017_- | but i want fonts to shrink |
| 12:54.31 | Ace2017_- | i want the entire interface to shrink along with the fonts |
| 12:54.45 | Ace2017_- | all these scrollbars and toolbars and stuff are way too big |
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| 12:55.08 | themill | using 75dpi on a 100dpi monitor would make the fonts bigger |
| 12:55.15 | Ace2017_- | oh woops |
| 12:55.21 | Ace2017_- | 150 dpi? |
| 12:55.24 | nareshov | decrease the font sizes instead |
| 12:55.30 | nareshov | (after fixing your rendering) |
| 12:55.44 | Ace2017_- | what about a higher res than the monitor supports scaled down? |
| 12:55.53 | enouf | yep |
| 12:56.04 | enouf | oh, nope |
| 12:56.07 | themill | Ace2017_-: [12:53] <nareshov> Ace2017_-: it'd be best if you set your DPI as reported by your monitor |
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| 12:56.50 | enouf | "higher res than the monitor supports" <--key phrase - how do you propose to pull that off? |
| 12:57.10 | antipivo | hi all! how I can change setting kjornald ? |
| 12:57.19 | Ace2017_- | can i get xorg to make my desktop: 2560x1600 then scale it down for the lcd? |
| 12:57.38 | antipivo | <Ace2017_-> use Nvidia & |
| 12:57.39 | antipivo | ? |
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| 12:57.48 | enouf | "... and maybe my tnt2pro will run the latest windows games, using dx10" :-P |
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| 12:58.41 | Ace2017_- | antipivo: ati or nvidia, i just want a way to get a higher res than the lcd supports or shrink everything on the screen |
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| 12:59.43 | PiousMinion | If I have multiple entries for the official debian repos in my apt sources does it just use the first one unless it fails... or do later entries override earlier ones? |
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| 13:00.05 | antipivo | if use Nvidia, need install nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig |
| 13:00.28 | Ace2017_- | can nvidia force a high res and scale down? |
| 13:00.35 | Xeross | so what would be the proper command for for reconfigure because the one i did didnt work |
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| 13:00.58 | Ace2017_- | Xeross: reconfigure what? |
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| 13:01.23 | themill | Ace2017_-: wtf? If the font is larger than you want, then use a smaller font; if the scrollbar is too thick, then use a different window decoration theme. |
| 13:01.23 | antipivo | <Ace2017_-> install nvidia-settings and run this prog |
| 13:01.37 | Xeross | i mean for confmiss |
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| 13:01.52 | Xeross | im using aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall courier-base; after editing the prerm files but it still errors |
| 13:02.04 | Ace2017_- | themill: i like this one, also i can't find any thinner ones, icons are already at 16x16 |
| 13:02.23 | greeny | Hi :) Ive installed an apache2 under debian5....how can i change the webroot to /home/websrv!? |
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| 13:02.32 | themill | dpkg: tell greeny about apache it works |
| 13:02.35 | PiousMinion | Ace2017_-: good lord. what is your current rez at? |
| 13:02.57 | Ace2017_- | 1680x1050 |
| 13:03.04 | valdyn | greeny: edit or remake /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/whatever |
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| 13:03.17 | PiousMinion | Ace2017_-: rofl, how big is the monitor? |
| 13:03.24 | Ace2017_- | 20" |
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| 13:03.43 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: post a screenshot and describe the problem precisely |
| 13:03.44 | Lord | 1680*1050 is my laptop's resolution |
| 13:03.48 | Lord | in 15.4 inches |
| 13:03.55 | PiousMinion | Ace2017_-: you have a 20" at 1680x1050 and you want your icons smaller than 16x16? I wish I had your vision. |
| 13:04.07 | Ace2017_- | Lord: yea thats the kind of res i'm used to |
| 13:04.22 | Ace2017_- | PiousMinion: well anything bigger on toolbars would be a waste of space |
| 13:04.27 | valdyn | Lord: thats what dpi? 125? |
| 13:04.47 | themill | Ace2017_-: is your monitor capable of doing a higher resolution than that? |
| 13:04.55 | enouf | who uses icons? |
| 13:04.57 | Lord | dunno ... |
| 13:05.01 | Lord | i'm under vista ^^ |
| 13:05.04 | PiousMinion | enouf: good point |
| 13:05.15 | Xeross | valdyn: what sould i do know |
| 13:05.15 | valdyn | icons are scalable anyway |
| 13:05.28 | valdyn | Xeross: after doing what? |
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| 13:06.04 | valdyn | Xeross: i dont know where you are stuck right now |
| 13:06.08 | Xeross | valdyn: ive edited the prerm files and then i do aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall courier-base; but that errors. you want the error ? |
| 13:06.16 | valdyn | Xeross: yes |
| 13:07.16 | Xeross | http://pastebin.com/m58098e73 |
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| 13:07.47 | greeny | valdyn: thx...works:) |
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| 13:08.29 | valdyn | Xeross: courier cant be running atm, it should not be running, then give /etc/init.d/courier* the same treatment you gave the prerm scripts |
| 13:08.59 | Hexxeh | Hey |
| 13:09.18 | Hexxeh | I'm trying to get Samba to share my Apache htdocs, but no matter what settings I put on the share I can't access it |
| 13:09.34 | Hexxeh | Any ideas as to why? I can access my home directory share, and the printers share just fine. |
| 13:09.35 | valdyn | Xeross: verify that all those files are modified still, then do the confmiss stuff again, but for all 3 packages at once |
| 13:10.49 | Xeross | it now uninstalled everything shall i try a reinstall ? |
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| 13:11.08 | Xeross | woohoo it works thx |
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| 13:11.28 | valdyn | Xeross: go verify that the scripts are proper now in /etc/init.d |
| 13:11.43 | antipivo | how change settings kjornald ? |
| 13:11.47 | Ace2017_- | brb i'm going to try a higher dpi |
| 13:11.54 | Xeross | valdyn: No still with only with exit 0 |
| 13:11.55 | valdyn | antipivo: why would you? |
| 13:12.08 | valdyn | Xeross: is there a .dpkg-dist version now? |
| 13:12.40 | valdyn | Xeross: like courier-imap.dpkg-dist |
| 13:13.23 | Xeross | valdyn: They were there before i installed |
| 13:13.30 | Xeross | but now gone |
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| 13:13.55 | valdyn | Xeross: ok, just bring the scripts back to original state manually then |
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| 13:14.22 | Xeross | uh shouldve made backups of em ? |
| 13:14.46 | valdyn | Xeross: oh, you lost the original state? |
| 13:14.51 | valdyn | Xeross: no big deal |
| 13:15.22 | valdyn | Xeross: move the modified script away, use confmiss |
| 13:16.02 | valdyn | Xeross: make it a habbit of not deleting stuff |
| 13:16.10 | valdyn | Xeross: delete = move away |
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| 13:16.19 | antipivo | <valdyn> I wont set time out check HD, at the moment every 5 second kjurnald use HD |
| 13:16.42 | valdyn | antipivo: you are aware of the implications for your data safety? |
| 13:17.00 | abrotman | or lack of |
| 13:17.01 | OpenTokix | Just don't use journaling? |
| 13:17.09 | Xeross | valdyn: Thanks now i can remove courier and install dovecot |
| 13:17.13 | enouf | antipivo: is famd/gamin or something running? |
| 13:17.21 | OpenTokix | remount as ext2, and remove the journal |
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| 13:17.24 | OpenTokix | problem solved |
| 13:17.40 | valdyn | OpenTokix: and that is really evil |
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| 13:17.46 | OpenTokix | valdyn: why? |
| 13:17.46 | valdyn | OpenTokix: so dont recommend it |
| 13:17.50 | antipivo | <valdyn> xchat running |
| 13:17.55 | OpenTokix | valdyn: why? |
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| 13:18.02 | enouf | antipivo: try remounting using 'noatime' option, and if using 'defaults', change that to selective options |
| 13:18.04 | OpenTokix | valdyn: I have run ext2 for many many years, sucessfully |
| 13:18.08 | valdyn | OpenTokix: im not going to explain to you why we use journaling on filesystems |
| 13:18.10 | OpenTokix | valdyn: so has many others. |
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| 13:18.26 | OpenTokix | valdyn: I like journaling, but the guy complains about kjournal accessing is drive |
| 13:18.31 | OpenTokix | then don't use journaling |
| 13:18.36 | valdyn | OpenTokix: bullshit |
| 13:18.43 | valdyn | antipivo: its configurable, im looking atm |
| 13:18.55 | abrotman | he didn't say why every five seconds is bad .. |
| 13:18.56 | OpenTokix | valdyn: What is bullshit? |
| 13:19.03 | enouf | OpenTokix: not a smart option to pass a newcomer, IMO |
| 13:19.09 | abrotman | it really shouldn't be noticeable unless it's a really old machine |
| 13:19.14 | enouf | pass to* |
| 13:19.26 | valdyn | OpenTokix: advising people to use ext because it works for you is evil, intentionally or not intentionally |
| 13:19.33 | OpenTokix | enouf: he complains about kjournald accesses his harddrive, want to remvoe the point of journaling, so why not remove the journal all together? |
| 13:19.34 | valdyn | OpenTokix: advising people to use ext2 because it works for you is evil, intentionally or not intentionally |
| 13:19.45 | OpenTokix | valdyn: I don't use ext2, I have used - before |
| 13:19.49 | enouf | OpenTokix: i already answered |
| 13:19.50 | OpenTokix | valdyn: now I use ext3 |
| 13:20.20 | pzn | I use a server with gnome/XDMCP and many diskless users. when upgraded to lenny, it started using some nice 3d screensavers, and when an user is away it burns server cpu. is there a simple screensaver package that only has a "blank-screen" or other non-cpu-bunring thing? |
| 13:21.00 | OpenTokix | pzn: just configure the screensaver for blank screen |
| 13:21.14 | OpenTokix | enouf: ok, fair solution |
| 13:21.27 | valdyn | antipivo: im still waiting for you to tell me why you want to do it |
| 13:22.45 | valdyn | ext4 already does not do it every 5 sec and people claim ext4 is broken for that reason |
| 13:22.59 | OpenTokix | ext4 seems nice! |
| 13:23.07 | OpenTokix | And in 18+ months I will be running it |
| 13:23.12 | OpenTokix | =) |
| 13:23.13 | Statutory_Ape | I use ext5 |
| 13:23.19 | Statutory_Ape | its much better |
| 13:23.22 | OpenTokix | extonebillion |
| 13:23.27 | enouf | antipivo: and which device is this? internal/external? usb? sata? ...also; how do you know kjournald is the cause? |
| 13:23.32 | zinx | I use ext mojave |
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| 13:23.38 | OpenTokix | zinx: hehe |
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| 13:23.41 | Statutory_Ape | lol |
| 13:23.44 | valdyn | hes right that kjournald does this |
| 13:23.51 | pzn | OpenTokix: for every one of the ~50 users? |
| 13:24.03 | Ace2017_- | my fonts didn't change :( |
| 13:24.17 | OpenTokix | pzn: 50 users using X at the same time? |
| 13:24.23 | enouf | i asked how he knows |
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| 13:24.39 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: its trivial to set fonts to unreadable small sizes, no one know what your actual problem is |
| 13:24.43 | pzn | OpenTokix: yes, diskless stations, the server is 4x AMD64 5600+, with 6Gb ram |
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| 13:24.54 | antipivo | <enouf> I use HD sata, every 5 second kjornald test HD |
| 13:25.04 | valdyn | antipivo: thats GOOD |
| 13:25.05 | OpenTokix | pzn: ok, blast from the past =) |
| 13:25.08 | valdyn | antipivo: you want this |
| 13:25.13 | pzn | OpenTokix: :-) |
| 13:25.14 | valdyn | antipivo: you just dont know that you want this |
| 13:25.21 | antipivo | I wont set 40 sec |
| 13:25.30 | Ace2017_- | wants to shrink everything |
| 13:25.31 | Statutory_Ape | valdyn, tell him why its specific to ext4 |
| 13:25.36 | Statutory_Ape | should satisfy his curiousity |
| 13:25.42 | abrotman | antipivo: that's a *very* bad idea |
| 13:25.51 | OpenTokix | pzn: Well, you could push out a new .xscreensaver-diddimapooh - |
| 13:25.52 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: whats specific to ext4 ? |
| 13:26.42 | antipivo | <abrotman> how this not good idea ? |
| 13:26.59 | valdyn | antipivo: what is your actual problem? |
| 13:27.09 | valdyn | antipivo: writing once per 5 sec cannot be a problem in itself |
| 13:27.22 | Statutory_Ape | block size |
| 13:27.35 | Statutory_Ape | sorry inode size |
| 13:28.18 | Statutory_Ape | wait you're not talking about that... |
| 13:28.23 | Statutory_Ape | are you? I don't see |
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| 13:28.49 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: we are talking about the dirty_writeback time |
| 13:28.52 | Statutory_Ape | 118->256 threw me off |
| 13:28.56 | Statutory_Ape | 128* |
| 13:29.11 | Statutory_Ape | no i don't think so valdyn I got confused nm |
| 13:29.16 | Statutory_Ape | I think wer're talking about diff things |
| 13:29.31 | Ace2017_- | i added this to my xorg.conf in the monitor section but it didn't shrink stuff: DisplaySize 356 222 |
| 13:29.53 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: do you want help? you get told a few times what to do |
| 13:30.05 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: DisplaySize not changing anything is not surprising |
| 13:30.12 | Statutory_Ape | valdyn, coz I read If you use an inode size of 256 bytes, then you will |
| 13:30.23 | Statutory_Ape | be able to use nanosecond granularity timestamps |
| 13:30.24 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: then i will what? |
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| 13:30.29 | Ace2017_- | valdyn: did i get told to make fonts smaller? |
| 13:30.33 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: thats not what we want |
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| 13:30.39 | Statutory_Ape | I see |
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| 13:30.50 | Ace2017_- | valdyn: does xorg have the ability to use high resolutions scaled to lower ones? |
| 13:30.56 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: i told you to post a screenshot and tell what exactly is wrong |
| 13:31.00 | Statutory_Ape | Ace2017_-, scaled? |
| 13:31.10 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: thats a totally retarded solution to no problem at all |
| 13:31.22 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: you can do it, i wont help you do something retarded |
| 13:32.00 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: he wants to run a resolution higher than his lcd can display |
| 13:32.10 | Statutory_Ape | that... |
| 13:32.13 | Ace2017_- | Statutory_Ape: yea if possible have the desktop at 2560x1600 scaled down to 1680x1050 |
| 13:32.13 | Statutory_Ape | hows that gonna work? |
| 13:32.19 | Statutory_Ape | virtual screen size? drag the screen a round? |
| 13:32.25 | Ace2017_- | no scale it |
| 13:32.30 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: he wants it scaled |
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| 13:32.34 | Statutory_Ape | thats not possible is it? |
| 13:32.37 | Statutory_Ape | scaling |
| 13:32.37 | Rienzilla | it's not completely retarded :) |
| 13:33.04 | Rienzilla | My beamer with an 800x600 resolution does that too... Image wuality is crap, but at least you can use programs who insist on using that many pixels :) |
| 13:33.18 | Statutory_Ape | thats unhealthy for your monitor |
| 13:33.20 | valdyn | Rienzilla: thats an entirely different situation |
| 13:33.34 | valdyn | Rienzilla: he wants to do it to shrink fonts |
| 13:33.44 | Statutory_Ape | uhm, use a hack, -dpi |
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| 13:33.51 | Rienzilla | ow |
| 13:33.52 | Statutory_Ape | perhaps startx -- -dpi 100 |
| 13:33.55 | Rienzilla | why not use a smaller font then |
| 13:33.58 | Statutory_Ape | 96, 72 |
| 13:34.00 | PiousMinion | Anyone know how to add debian-volatile to apt-proxy? It just doesn't like it it seems. |
| 13:34.14 | Rienzilla | (sorry, didn't read the complete backlog) |
| 13:34.27 | valdyn | Rienzilla: fonts are scalable. |
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| 13:34.55 | Ace2017_- | valdyn: http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5328/toolbarrendering17.png |
| 13:35.27 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: thats a gnome desktop? |
| 13:35.43 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: font looks nice, its to big? |
| 13:35.47 | Statutory_Ape | kde |
| 13:35.47 | Ace2017_- | kde4 |
| 13:36.04 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: kde ships its own config tool to change font sizes |
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| 13:36.12 | Ace2017_- | fonts are the right size now but i want to make the fonts bigger by one size and then shrink everything |
| 13:36.12 | Statutory_Ape | and dpi |
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| 13:37.38 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: whats everything? less pixels between your xchat lines? |
| 13:37.57 | Statutory_Ape | valdyn, konversation |
| 13:37.59 | Statutory_Ape | :) |
| 13:38.04 | valdyn | whatever |
| 13:38.12 | Statutory_Ape | terrible app |
| 13:38.26 | Ace2017_- | well if the screen was samller everything would be scaled |
| 13:38.35 | Avatar_ | hi, I need for sources list an good working entry for experimental, because I need another phpmyadmin, right now I used "deb http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/debian/ lenny main" |
| 13:38.46 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: no it wouldnt |
| 13:38.58 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, you don't want to mix stable + experimental |
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| 13:39.07 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: do your maths please, thats not how this works |
| 13:39.19 | Ace2017_- | how what works? |
| 13:39.27 | Ace2017_- | dpi/fonts or scaling of the whole desktop area? |
| 13:39.28 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: how scaling affects the visual |
| 13:39.30 | Avatar_ | not really Statutory_Ape |
| 13:39.45 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, php myadmin is a mere php software, you can simply just get the latest version from upstream and install it |
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| 13:40.05 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: you never told me what "everything" is |
| 13:40.08 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, or backprort it, /msg dpkg ssb |
| 13:40.14 | valdyn | Ace2017_-: theres just text on your screenshot |
| 13:40.20 | abrotman | or probably just grab the .deb and install it |
| 13:40.27 | Avatar_ | but I need cpan Image::Magick too, an #perl told me to use experimental |
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| 13:40.40 | Statutory_Ape | then perl is full of tools |
| 13:40.46 | Ace2017_- | hm... |
| 13:40.48 | Statutory_Ape | like image::magick |
| 13:40.48 | Avatar_ | how can I backport it Statutory_Ape |
| 13:40.50 | valdyn | Avatar_: you dont want to use the debian perl magick package? |
| 13:41.01 | Statutory_Ape | use perl magick |
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| 13:41.12 | valdyn | Avatar_: and you dont want to use dh_make_perl ? |
| 13:41.20 | valdyn | Avatar_: trying to make it hard ? |
| 13:41.31 | Avatar_ | I want to use it valdyn |
| 13:41.43 | valdyn | Avatar_: so install the debian package |
| 13:41.47 | Avatar_ | but cpan Image::Magick brock |
| 13:41.52 | Avatar_ | e |
| 13:42.05 | valdyn | Avatar_: you should not use cpan directly, i alread told you that much |
| 13:42.22 | valdyn | !cpan |
| 13:42.23 | dpkg | hmm... cpan is the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network at http://www.perl.com/CPAN/, or perl -MCPAN -eshell, or it's probably better to use dh-make-perl --cpan |
| 13:42.27 | valdyn | Avatar_: ^^^^ |
| 13:42.28 | PiousMinion | Anyone know how I can tell my laptop to kill the lcd when I close the lid, but not the external vga? |
| 13:42.36 | valdyn | Avatar_: but perl magick is alread packaged |
| 13:42.41 | Avatar_ | sorry valdyn I'm new,, I dont know other ways to install it |
| 13:42.50 | valdyn | Avatar_: dpkg told you |
| 13:42.59 | Avatar_ | ok i try |
| 13:43.06 | valdyn | Avatar_: no you dont |
| 13:43.13 | valdyn | Avatar_: you install the preexisting debian package |
| 13:43.14 | Avatar_ | now i do^ |
| 13:43.20 | Statutory_Ape | lol |
| 13:43.20 | Hexxeh | hey, I'm trying to add a new samba share. i've edited the config, restarted the server and i still can't get it to show. any ideas as to why it won't appear? |
| 13:43.42 | Statutory_Ape | Hexxeh, pastebin your share |
| 13:43.56 | valdyn | Avatar_: aptitude install libgraphics-magick-perl, i guess |
| 13:43.58 | Hexxeh | okay, one second |
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| 13:44.32 | Avatar_ | i tryd apt-get install perlmagick |
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| 13:44.55 | Ace2017_- | ok i think i found a good font size |
| 13:45.01 | Ace2017_- | small font = easier to read right? |
| 13:45.14 | Statutory_Ape | how do we know |
| 13:45.16 | Statutory_Ape | ask your eyes |
| 13:45.22 | valdyn | Avatar_: yea, right, particularily 1 pixel sized fonts |
| 13:45.34 | Ace2017_- | i mean small enough to read the characters |
| 13:45.43 | Statutory_Ape | once again, thats up to you andyour vision |
| 13:45.46 | Statutory_Ape | we know jack |
| 13:45.55 | Hexxeh | Statutory_Ape: http://paste.cluenet.org/1612 |
| 13:45.56 | Avatar_ | what you mean valdyn ? |
| 13:45.58 | Statutory_Ape | my father likes a 800x600 with large fonts |
| 13:46.04 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, he mis fired nick completion |
| 13:46.09 | Statutory_Ape | Hexxeh, hang on |
| 13:46.16 | valdyn | Avatar_: aptitude install libgraphics-magick-perl, i mean |
| 13:46.23 | abrotman | oh dear lord .. a samba shared apache root ... |
| 13:46.28 | Avatar_ | ok i do now |
| 13:46.30 | Ace2017_- | yea but large fonts take up a lot of horizontal screen space |
| 13:46.34 | Statutory_Ape | thats horrible |
| 13:46.42 | Statutory_Ape | don't do that to your document root |
| 13:46.46 | valdyn | Avatar_: that other comment was meant for Ace2017_- |
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| 13:47.01 | Hexxeh | Statutory_Ape: Why not? |
| 13:47.05 | Avatar_ | ok i see valdyn |
| 13:47.07 | Statutory_Ape | cuz its just dumb |
| 13:47.09 | Statutory_Ape | :) |
| 13:47.25 | Ace2017_- | what will libgraphics-magick-perl do? |
| 13:47.38 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, apt-cache show libgraphics-magick-perl |
| 13:47.50 | Ace2017_- | oh i get it |
| 13:47.53 | Hexxeh | Statutory_Ape: Why doesn't it work though? |
| 13:48.04 | abrotman | Hexxeh: you might want to paste your whole smb.conf |
| 13:48.05 | Ace2017_- | Statutory_Ape: just seemed like a random thing to install |
| 13:48.11 | Statutory_Ape | Hexxeh, seems fine in format |
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| 13:48.25 | valdyn | Hexxeh: is your samba run via inetd? |
| 13:48.27 | Statutory_Ape | but do what abrotman said |
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| 13:48.46 | Statutory_Ape | valdyn, hm you mean if he restarted samba? |
| 13:48.47 | Avatar_ | and after lib... tryed to install perl-MCPAN -e shell Image::Magick |
| 13:48.56 | Avatar_ | but JCRISTY/PerlMagick-6.40.tar.gz |
| 13:48.56 | Avatar_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.05 | Statutory_Ape | I thought it was a given, but yeh, he'd need to restart samba afaik |
| 13:49.06 | valdyn | Statutory_Ape: he didnt restart it if its run via inetd |
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| 13:49.32 | Hexxeh | I'm doing /etc/init.d/samba restart |
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| 13:49.46 | Hexxeh | http://carbon.hexxeh.net/smb.conf |
| 13:49.49 | Hexxeh | That's my config. |
| 13:50.04 | Statutory_Ape | check /var/log/sambalogs |
| 13:50.20 | Tech_tuning | hi i have an IBM xseries 348 6640 what architecture is the best to use with this server? it's intel xeon 3.0GHZ and it's already 3 years old |
| 13:50.38 | Avatar_ | Statutory_Ape, I dont understand what I have to do to backport phpmyadmin |
| 13:50.52 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, you know what |
| 13:51.05 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, go to packages.debian.org, download the package from the experimental and install it |
| 13:51.21 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, its just php scripts and not anything that depends on anything, so you should be just fine |
| 13:51.34 | valdyn | !judd: versions phpmyadmin |
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| 13:51.37 | valdyn | judd: versions phpmyadmin |
| 13:51.38 | judd | valdyn: phpmyadmin -- etch: 4:2.9.1.1-8 etch-security: 4:2.9.1.1-10 sid: 4:2.11.8.1-4 lenny: 4:2.11.8.1-5 sid: 4:2.11.8.1-5 experimental: 4:3.1.2-1 sid: 4:3.1.3-1 squeeze: 4:3.1.3-1 |
| 13:51.50 | Avatar_ | Statutory_Ape, withr apg |
| 13:51.52 | abrotman | Tech_tuning: do you know if it's amd64 or not? if not, use i386 |
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| 13:52.19 | Avatar_ | Statutory_Ape, with apt-get phpmyadmin I hadt this problems: http://rafb.net/p/NTkKT732.html |
| 13:52.22 | Hexxeh | Statutory_Ape: What am I looking for? |
| 13:52.27 | valdyn | considering squeeze has a higher version than experimental , i very much doubt you need experimental packages |
| 13:52.28 | Statutory_Ape | #samba |
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| 13:52.31 | Statutory_Ape | :) |
| 13:52.31 | Tech_tuning | not sure the proc is intel xeon 3.0GHZ i expect that it's 64-bit |
| 13:52.33 | valdyn | but what do i know ;) |
| 13:52.47 | Tech_tuning | abrotman, is there a way to see it in linux? right now it's running on an old centos 4 |
| 13:52.49 | Hexxeh | Statutory_Ape: dead as a graveyard, already asked there a while ago. |
| 13:52.56 | Statutory_Ape | Hexxeh, then be patient |
| 13:53.01 | valdyn | Avatar_: youre still trying to use cpan for no good reason |
| 13:53.10 | valdyn | !cluebat |
| 13:53.10 | dpkg | *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK* |
| 13:53.14 | nareshov | lol |
| 13:53.15 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, /msg dpkg ssb |
| 13:53.15 | abrotman | Tech_tuning: look at /proc/cpuinfo |
| 13:53.20 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, for backporting |
| 13:53.36 | enouf | Tech_tuning: look for the 'lm' flag |
| 13:53.39 | Avatar_ | what meas this, I dont understand Statutory_Ape |
| 13:53.48 | Avatar_ | fullcommand? |
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| 13:54.03 | valdyn | Avatar_: whats wrong with the phpmyadmin from debian? |
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| 13:54.06 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, it means send a private message to dpkg |
| 13:54.23 | Statutory_Ape | !tell Avatar_ -about ssb |
| 13:55.02 | Tech_tuning | abrotman, it just says this |
| 13:55.03 | Tech_tuning | model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz |
| 13:55.09 | Statutory_Ape | !tell Avatar_ -about dpkgbot |
| 13:55.12 | abrotman | Tech_tuning: look at the flags line |
| 13:55.18 | Tech_tuning | enouf, oh wait |
| 13:55.19 | themill | Avatar_: /tmp being full probably doesn't help either... |
| 13:55.44 | Tech_tuning | abrotman, enouf this are the flags i got flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr |
| 13:56.12 | Avatar_ | themill it is not full when I look inside |
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| 13:56.30 | abrotman | Tech_tuning: so you can use either amd64 or i386 |
| 13:56.53 | Statutory_Ape | brb |
| 13:56.57 | Tech_tuning | abrotman, oh ok i was thinking about ia64 what is ia64 bttw? |
| 13:57.01 | Statutory_Ape | http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/skyimage_2041_6137461 |
| 13:57.02 | abrotman | not for you .. |
| 13:57.05 | Statutory_Ape | doh |
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| 13:57.15 | abrotman | !ia64 |
| 13:57.15 | dpkg | it has been said that ia64 is (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's amd64. |
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| 13:57.45 | Ace2017_- | where are bitmap fonts installed? |
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| 13:58.40 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, in the system |
| 13:58.43 | pbn | Hi, got a problem. On a Dell Latitude laptop, the "height" of the virtual console is too high. I mean, I cannot see what I am typing, as if Debian was using more lines than the display... any idea ? |
| 13:59.03 | Ace2017_- | pbn: what size is the display? |
| 13:59.03 | Statutory_Ape | Ace2017_-, you need dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config |
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| 13:59.03 | Statutory_Ape | Ace2017_-, enable bitmap fonts there |
| 13:59.05 | Avatar_ | how can I fix it Statutory_Ape |
| 13:59.06 | Davinken1 | hy i m trying to configure ekiga without sucess i have a registration failed. I tried on the ekiga irc but nobdoy answer anybody could help me ? |
| 13:59.25 | Statutory_Ape | Avatar_, I don't know sir. I give up. |
| 13:59.29 | Ace2017_- | you can specify vga=2039423 or some random number, it'll go 'huh what was this user thing ...' and then ask you to pick one |
| 13:59.51 | pbn | Ace2017_-: hum, don't know, wait I'm gonna look |
| 14:00.00 | abrotman | Davinken1: on which ekiga irc? |
| 14:00.08 | Tech_tuning | thanks dpkg, enouf and abrotman got it! |
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| 14:00.17 | abrotman | dpkg: you're the best! |
| 14:00.18 | dpkg | la la la la .... I did it myyyyyyyyy wayyy ... cof cof ... |
| 14:00.20 | Davinken1 | abrotman: #ekiga |
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| 14:00.25 | abrotman | Davinken1: on irc.gnome.org ? |
| 14:00.26 | Avatar_ | thx |
| 14:00.32 | nareshov | !ekiga |
| 14:00.33 | dpkg | it has been said that ekiga is a H323 and SIP compatible VoIP client, that supports video chat and is mostly compatible with the proprietary program "netmeeting". formerly known as 'gnomemeeting' |
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| 14:00.39 | Davinken1 | abrotman: no on freenode |
| 14:00.41 | nareshov | hm |
| 14:01.38 | Hexxeh | Argh, bugger |
| 14:01.46 | abrotman | Davinken1: i geuss there's only 30 in that one |
| 14:01.47 | Hexxeh | I had path /var/ww instead of path = /var/www |
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| 14:01.57 | abrotman | which is more than here |
| 14:02.02 | Statutory_Ape | that'd do it |
| 14:02.09 | abrotman | Hexxeh: not in the one you pasted |
| 14:02.12 | Davinken1 | abrotman: no only 5 people |
| 14:02.18 | Statutory_Ape | yeh i didn't see that either |
| 14:02.20 | abrotman | Davinken1: on irc.gnome.org there is 30 |
| 14:02.31 | Davinken1 | amm okok i ill try it |
| 14:02.31 | Hexxeh | abrotman: I retyped the one I pasted, the one I linked on carbon.hexxeh.net had the error though. |
| 14:02.32 | abrotman | Davinken1: do you get any errors? or just not working ? |
| 14:02.45 | abrotman | doesn't see it .. bu tokay |
| 14:02.48 | Statutory_Ape | zipped mp4 |
| 14:02.50 | Davinken1 | abrotman: just registration failed |
| 14:02.52 | Statutory_Ape | thats just dumb |
| 14:03.00 | Statutory_Ape | oop |
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| 14:03.14 | Davinken1 | abrotman: and i valided my subscription etc .. |
| 14:03.25 | Statutory_Ape | valided :) |
| 14:03.33 | abrotman | validated i assume |
| 14:03.39 | abrotman | Davinken1: on their website you mean? |
| 14:03.53 | Davinken1 | abrotman: yeah sorry. Yeah on the website |
| 14:04.18 | pbn | Ace2017_-: the virtual consoles can display 25 lines |
| 14:04.20 | Davinken1 | Statutory_Ape: if you speak french or spanish i will agree to speak in both language :P |
| 14:04.27 | Statutory_Ape | nope sorry |
| 14:04.33 | pbn | Ace2017_-: I mean, my screen can display maximum 25 lines |
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| 14:04.40 | Statutory_Ape | strictly English, Arabic, Urdu |
| 14:04.44 | Davinken1 | Statutory_Ape: ok was to kidding ;) |
| 14:04.51 | Statutory_Ape | and I suck at all 3 of em |
| 14:04.54 | abrotman | and that's barely english |
| 14:04.54 | Statutory_Ape | hehe |
| 14:04.59 | Ace2017_- | pbn: what screen resolution are you using? |
| 14:05.19 | pbn | Ace2017_-: well it's text mode on the virtual consoles... |
| 14:05.39 | Ace2017_- | pbn: try vga=ask |
| 14:05.41 | Davinken1 | abrotman: ok i ill go on gnome irc ... ;) thanks a lot;) |
| 14:05.50 | abrotman | Davinken1: so i went to their website to get an account .. and the captcha is cut off |
| 14:05.57 | pbn | Ace2017_-: in grub ? |
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| 14:06.01 | Statutory_Ape | Davinken1, surely your ric client has multi server capability |
| 14:06.04 | Statutory_Ape | IRC |
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| 14:06.21 | Statutory_Ape | Davinken1, if not, get a decent enough client |
| 14:06.26 | abrotman | Davinken1: this is on lenny? |
| 14:06.32 | spacepluk | hi, is someone familiar with xnest? |
| 14:06.40 | Davinken1 | abrotman: yes lenny and i m using pidgin |
| 14:06.44 | Statutory_Ape | spacepluk, ask |
| 14:06.56 | abrotman | Davinken1: let me register .. moment |
| 14:07.02 | Davinken1 | ok |
| 14:07.34 | Ace2017_- | brb |
| 14:07.39 | spacepluk | i'm using "login in a new window" from gnome's menu but i can't type in the xnest window |
| 14:07.39 | Statutory_Ape | I think I used Xnest back in the day of Xgl |
| 14:07.56 | Statutory_Ape | since Xgl ran on top of X, I think I was nesting it iirc |
| 14:08.04 | spacepluk | however f10 popups the menu |
| 14:08.37 | Statutory_Ape | so its not accepting input of any kind? |
| 14:08.43 | Statutory_Ape | from keyboard, what about mouse? |
| 14:09.02 | Statutory_Ape | sneeze so hard twice my brain rattled |
| 14:09.05 | Statutory_Ape | brb |
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| 14:09.34 | spacepluk | Statutory_Ape: mouse, and f10 in gdm work |
| 14:09.43 | abrotman | Davinken1: yep, worked the first time :) |
| 14:09.51 | Statutory_Ape | ok so input does work |
| 14:09.52 | spacepluk | Statutory_Ape: but i cant type the login/pass :P |
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| 14:10.09 | Davinken1 | abrotman: maybe china is for something ..... |
| 14:10.11 | Statutory_Ape | does the login box get focus at least? |
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| 14:10.20 | abrotman | Davinken1: you're in china ? |
| 14:10.25 | guzu | where can i get the most recent debian 3.1 install .iso? |
| 14:10.29 | spacepluk | Statutory_Ape: yes, I can see the blinking cursor |
| 14:10.30 | Davinken1 | abrotman: yeah i live in china |
| 14:10.34 | abrotman | !tell guzu about cd archive |
| 14:10.36 | Statutory_Ape | guzu, most recent and 3.1? |
| 14:10.41 | abrotman | Davinken1: you mean .. behind the great firewall of china ? |
| 14:10.46 | Statutory_Ape | lol |
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| 14:10.51 | Davinken1 | abrotman: lol |
| 14:10.52 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, that was a good one |
| 14:11.13 | abrotman | Davinken1: do you know if any of your friends in china can use ekiga? |
| 14:11.21 | abrotman | Davinken1: how did you enter your username? |
| 14:11.40 | guzu | abrotman, thnx a lot |
| 14:11.43 | Statutory_Ape | spacepluk, strange |
| 14:11.45 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, yes, and |
| 14:11.56 | Davinken1 | abrotman: like davinken without the @ekiga.net and no i have no friends using it |
| 14:12.03 | abrotman | Davinken1: just makign sure |
| 14:12.06 | Statutory_Ape | guzu, you were told about the cd archive |
| 14:12.16 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, ok, thnx |
| 14:12.18 | Statutory_Ape | guzu, for the latest version as always debian.org |
| 14:12.25 | abrotman | guzu: you know that sarge is no longer supported right ? |
| 14:12.31 | Statutory_Ape | guzu, for older than oldstable, archive |
| 14:12.42 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, latest version (500) locks x |
| 14:12.49 | guzu | abrotman, yes |
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| 14:12.54 | Statutory_Ape | then let us help you |
| 14:13.04 | Statutory_Ape | don't go back down to sarge |
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| 14:13.13 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, let's try |
| 14:13.14 | Statutory_Ape | thats just not a good soultion |
| 14:13.26 | Davinken1 | abrotman: yeah but i looked on different configuration on the web and they put only the login without the @ekiga.net then i wrote the same |
| 14:13.27 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, http://rafb.net/paste/p/v4FBWv73.html |
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| 14:13.44 | Statutory_Ape | link not working |
| 14:13.44 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, x locks the video card into a black screen |
| 14:13.44 | Davinken1 | abrotman: on the outbound proxy what did you have ? |
| 14:13.51 | abrotman | guzu: 404 |
| 14:13.57 | guzu | hm? |
| 14:13.59 | abrotman | Davinken1: i don't have a proxy |
| 14:14.00 | guzu | well |
| 14:14.04 | guzu | let's try again then |
| 14:14.10 | Statutory_Ape | guzu, gfx card? driver? chipset? debian release version? |
| 14:14.13 | abrotman | guzu: paste.debian.net ? |
| 14:14.14 | Davinken1 | abrotman: mm ok ok |
| 14:14.24 | Statutory_Ape | guzu, also patebin xorg.conf and /va/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:14.33 | Statutory_Ape | sorry /var/... |
| 14:14.33 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, debian 5, trident (old) video card |
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| 14:14.46 | abrotman | guzu: like a trident PCI card? |
| 14:14.57 | guzu | abrotman, like an trident isa card |
| 14:15.00 | abrotman | doesn't think Trident made it to the AGP age |
| 14:15.02 | Statutory_Ape | oh holy shit |
| 14:15.02 | solars | can anyone recommed a better contact management app than abook? (cli) |
| 14:15.07 | Statutory_Ape | thats OLD |
| 14:15.12 | abrotman | guzu: 486? |
| 14:15.19 | guzu | abrotman, Statutory_Ape please wait for the old pentium to load an os :) |
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| 14:15.25 | abrotman | Statutory_Ape: i have a PC here that can run X (slowly) with a CirrusLogic card |
| 14:15.25 | Statutory_Ape | lol |
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| 14:15.41 | Statutory_Ape | wow |
| 14:15.47 | guzu | abrotman, debian 5? |
| 14:16.11 | abrotman | guzu: uhm .. i can't recall, haven't turned it on in awhile .. at least etch |
| 14:16.24 | guzu | ok |
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| 14:16.29 | Statutory_Ape | my oldest one is i810 atm |
| 14:16.38 | Statutory_Ape | p3, 866mhz |
| 14:16.45 | guzu | 4 has no problem on this machine (except being slow, ofc) |
| 14:16.47 | Statutory_Ape | intel onboard crapola |
| 14:17.10 | guzu | it seems the newest xorg breaks some old cards support |
| 14:17.27 | guzu | let's try somehing fast |
| 14:17.44 | Statutory_Ape | hm I think its like putting jet fuel in a bicycle |
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| 14:18.14 | guzu | :) |
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| 14:18.31 | guzu | the truth is, the text part works great |
| 14:18.47 | abrotman | guzu: are you using the vesa driver ? or something else? |
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| 14:18.48 | spacepluk | Statutory_Ape: well, it was a problem with the theme, other themes let me type |
| 14:19.02 | Statutory_Ape | spacepluk, whod'a thunk! |
| 14:19.06 | guzu | abrotman, first i let him decide, and it used trident |
| 14:19.14 | abrotman | him? |
| 14:19.17 | Statutory_Ape | me? |
| 14:19.21 | Statutory_Ape | huh |
| 14:19.27 | guzu | abrotman, then i forced in .conf driver vesa but of no use |
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| 14:19.38 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, I think he means xorg |
| 14:19.38 | guzu | well, "it"? |
| 14:19.41 | Statutory_Ape | heh yup |
| 14:19.47 | abrotman | he means the computer is a him |
| 14:20.01 | guzu | ok, i'm no native english speaker |
| 14:20.10 | guzu | apologize |
| 14:20.18 | Statutory_Ape | you're ok |
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| 14:20.22 | Ace2017_- | Hi all |
| 14:20.26 | guzu | hi |
| 14:20.30 | Ace2017_- | anyone know how to enable the penguin on boot? |
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| 14:20.37 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, bootsplash |
| 14:20.39 | Ace2017_- | the one knoppix has at the corner of the screen |
| 14:20.44 | Statutory_Ape | uhm |
| 14:20.46 | Ace2017_- | yea bootsplash, that was it |
| 14:20.48 | Statutory_Ape | Ace2017_-, bootsplash |
| 14:21.00 | nareshov | you should enable the logo in the kernel |
| 14:21.02 | guzu | twm is starting ... |
| 14:21.10 | Ace2017_- | is bootsplash enabled by default in debian? |
| 14:21.13 | Statutory_Ape | no |
| 14:21.13 | abrotman | guzu: that took like 10 minutes! |
| 14:21.15 | nareshov | CONFIG_LOGO |
| 14:21.25 | Statutory_Ape | nareshov, hm.. didn't know about that |
| 14:21.26 | guzu | abrotman, centos is way slower |
| 14:21.36 | nareshov | Statutory_Ape: he's not talking about bootsplash |
| 14:21.44 | Ace2017_- | also can you make it colurful? like knoppix |
| 14:21.46 | Statutory_Ape | nareshov, wouldn't he have to rebuild the kernel |
| 14:21.53 | nareshov | Ace2017_-: it is colourful |
| 14:21.54 | Jemt | Hi. Could someone with a laptop, a secondary monitor, and Lenny, test wheterh it is possible to switche between the two monitors using the usual keyboard combination Fn + F5/F7 ? It dosn't work for me on any of my 3 laptops |
| 14:21.55 | abrotman | hrm .. they have ekiga for windows ... |
| 14:21.57 | nareshov | can be made* |
| 14:21.58 | Booley | what program allow to see all Samba resourses (not Nautilus) |
| 14:21.59 | Statutory_Ape | nareshov, he means the text |
| 14:22.02 | nareshov | Statutory_Ape: yep, i guess so |
| 14:22.07 | Statutory_Ape | nareshov, boot messages coloried, formatted |
| 14:22.09 | Ace2017_- | see http://frrl.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/knoppix_boot.jpg |
| 14:22.15 | Statutory_Ape | colorized* |
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| 14:22.29 | guzu | Statutory_Ape, abrotman , http://rafb.net/p/v4FBWv73.html |
| 14:22.51 | abrotman | guzu: and then it locks ? |
| 14:23.48 | guzu | abrotman, the truth is, it only outputs black, while the system is running. if i c-a-f1 and then c-a-del, it reboots , so the system is alive |
| 14:23.54 | Statutory_Ape | Booley, smbclient |
| 14:24.05 | guzu | also it is black in text console, too |
| 14:24.07 | abrotman | guzu: oh, does the monitor turn off ? |
| 14:24.09 | abrotman | oh ... |
| 14:24.22 | guzu | abrotman, no, it's an laptop |
| 14:24.32 | abrotman | the monitor can still turn off |
| 14:24.48 | Ace2017_- | i better do this one at a time, first fonts, then other stuff |
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| 14:25.06 | Statutory_Ape | Booley, its a command line tool, install it |
| 14:25.18 | guzu | abrotman, it's pci after all: trident tgui 9660/938x/968x/ |
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| 14:25.40 | abrotman | guzu: and the same thing happens if you choose the vesa driver? |
| 14:25.45 | guzu | abrotman, yes |
| 14:25.57 | abrotman | oh .. that is using vesa |
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| 14:26.09 | guzu | same trident and vesa drivers |
| 14:26.52 | abrotman | is it black or just really faint? |
| 14:27.00 | guzu | abrotman, black |
| 14:27.09 | abrotman | have you tried specifying lower resolution/bpp ? |
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| 14:27.19 | avu | freezee, please stop sending me private messages. if you have a question, ask it here |
| 14:27.22 | abrotman | what does your xorg.conf look like ? |
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| 14:27.29 | guzu | abrotman, not today. let me try it |
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| 14:29.23 | JyZyXEL | i just met a person who said he is very much anti open source and that microsoft is the future |
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| 14:30.24 | Rusty1 | JyZyXEL: troll thee elsewhere |
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| 14:31.06 | JyZyXEL | i started to wonder and realized i can't find a single argument to support his theories |
| 14:31.16 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: #debian-offtopic |
| 14:31.59 | abrotman | Davinken1: get any other hints ? |
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| 14:32.25 | Davinken1 | abrotman: they told me to uninstall the ekiga and install the last one ... |
| 14:32.35 | abrotman | Davinken1: from their website? |
| 14:32.42 | Davinken1 | yep |
| 14:32.51 | abrotman | did they say why? |
| 14:32.55 | abrotman | judd: versions ekiga |
| 14:32.56 | judd | abrotman: ekiga -- etch: 2.0.3-6 etch-backports: 2.0.11-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.0.12-1+nmu1 squeeze: 2.0.12-1+nmu1 sid: 2.0.12-1+nmu1+b1 experimental: 3.0.1-1 |
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| 14:36.04 | Alpounet | hi all |
| 14:36.15 | Alpounet | does Squeeze has >= 2.6.27 kernel ? |
| 14:37.05 | Davinken1 | judd: i m installing the experimental first ... |
| 14:37.06 | judd | Davinken1: Error: "i" is not a valid command. |
| 14:37.34 | abrotman | Alpounet: not yet |
| 14:37.42 | abrotman | Alpounet: check packages.debian.org |
| 14:38.06 | themill | judd kernels |
| 14:38.07 | judd | themill: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-2~snapshot.12850); sid: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); lenny: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 14:38.09 | guzu | abrotman, i've added subsection display containig what it has on anothe distro wich has gui: depth 16 and modes 800x600 640x480 |
| 14:38.15 | guzu | abrotman, still black |
| 14:38.28 | abrotman | guzu: i meant like 640 and 8bpp |
| 14:38.56 | abrotman | will note that 4bpp is ugly :) |
| 14:39.03 | guzu | abrotman, i'll try that, after reboot |
| 14:39.05 | Alpounet | to have 2.6.27, we must choose unstable, right ? |
| 14:39.27 | abrotman | what do you need .27 for? |
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| 14:39.54 | abrotman | guzu: and you never get anything else in your Xorg.0.log ? |
| 14:39.58 | Alpounet | wireless lan cards support got better on .27 |
| 14:40.02 | guzu | abrotman, never |
| 14:40.15 | abrotman | guzu: can you paste your xorg.conf ? |
| 14:40.16 | nkuttler | Alpounet: /msg dpkg kp and build your own |
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| 14:40.33 | abrotman | guzu: also .. have you tried moving your xorg.conf out of the way and letting X try to guess ? |
| 14:40.55 | guzu | abrotman, i'll try first 640/8, then reboot in centos, so in about 15 minutes |
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| 14:41.13 | guzu | abrotman, first, i let xorg do whatever it wants |
| 14:41.38 | Alpounet | thanks |
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| 14:42.00 | guzu | abrotman, btw, are you aware of any kernel modesetting backported to debian 5's kernel? |
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| 14:42.13 | humbolt1 | anybody fit with xinetd |
| 14:42.15 | abrotman | guzu: nope |
| 14:42.20 | guzu | ok |
| 14:42.23 | abrotman | humbolt1: ask your real question |
| 14:44.17 | guzu | abrotman, so: with 640/8, same black hole eating the display :) |
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| 14:46.21 | Statutory_Ape | I'm going back to bed |
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| 14:47.21 | humbolt1 | abrotman: OK. This works: "nbd-server 0:2000 /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img -r -C /dev/null". But having "nbd-server 0 $1 -r -C /dev/null" in a script called nbdrootd, which is started from xinetd with server_args "/opt/ltsp/images/i386.img" does not work. However this works on another server, where the script is started from inetd instead of xinetd. What do these two do differently? |
| 14:47.33 | pgs | Alpounet: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel might have something |
| 14:47.39 | abrotman | humbolt1: i didn't mean ask me . |
| 14:47.45 | humbolt1 | abrotman: anyhow |
| 14:47.56 | abrotman | humbolt1: so why not just use inetd ? |
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| 14:48.30 | humbolt1 | abrotman: because I tend to want to know, why the hack things work or don't |
| 14:48.59 | Alpounet | pgs, great thanks |
| 14:49.13 | humbolt1 | abrotman: I have a theory however. |
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| 14:49.47 | humbolt1 | abrotman: See, if I start nbd-server without the :2000 the command line does not work also |
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| 14:50.23 | abrotman | humbolt1: but it works on the command line with the 0:2000 ? |
| 14:50.28 | humbolt1 | abrotman: so I am asking myself, how the ports are actually assigned to services |
| 14:50.30 | humbolt1 | yes |
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| 14:50.58 | Larry | hey |
| 14:51.18 | Larry | im trying to run an app on my debian etch which uses libglib |
| 14:51.33 | Larry | but it says it cant find it, even though it's in my/usr/lib/ folder and the app's own /libs/ folder |
| 14:51.38 | humbolt1 | abrotman: see on this other machine inetd itself is waiting for the connection to come in |
| 14:51.53 | Larry | a person with a similar problem said use an unstable lib from a gtk package or something |
| 14:52.12 | abrotman | Larry: what's the actual error? |
| 14:52.15 | m0dular | secret |
| 14:52.25 | Larry | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.40 | Larry | libglib-2.0.so.0 exists in the 2 directories |
| 14:52.41 | guzu | abrotman, http://rafb.net/p/2ht63s56.html |
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| 14:53.30 | guzu | abrotman, , the bug looks like this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=440185 |
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| 14:53.56 | abrotman | !find libglib-2.0.so.0 lenny |
| 14:54.16 | themill | Larry: is the libglib2.0-0 package installed? |
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| 14:54.46 | guzu | abrotman, and of course, like this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458226 |
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| 14:54.57 | tecneeq | my debian is broken. basilisk is missing from lenny :( |
| 14:55.00 | abrotman | guzu: reading .. moment |
| 14:55.08 | guzu | ok |
| 14:55.20 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libglib-2.0.so.0' (2): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.6) in libdevel/libglib2.0-0-dbg ;; (/usr/lib/{libglib-2.0.so.0|libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.6}) in libs/libglib2.0-0. |
| 14:55.23 | Larry | themill: yes |
| 14:55.26 | jvm | hi. the numpad on my keyboard stopped working - i pressed the 'Num' key a number of times, already. any idea what couldve happened? |
| 14:55.27 | abrotman | guzu: tried mving the xorg.conf aside and letting X autoguess ? |
| 14:55.42 | guzu | abrotman, that's how it started |
| 14:55.49 | abrotman | tecneeq: it's only in contrib in unstble |
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| 14:56.35 | guzu | abrotman, then: i'fve added "noaccel" , then i've added driver vesa, then i've added the display subsection |
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| 14:56.43 | tecneeq | abrotman: who's to blame? the government? do you know if there is a reason for that? |
| 14:56.54 | abrotman | tecneeq: you're to blame? you should have packaged it years ago |
| 14:57.02 | tecneeq | abrotman: got me ;) |
| 14:57.23 | tecneeq | afaik it was there years ago, there must be a reason why they pulled it out |
| 14:57.46 | tecneeq | well, i guess i'll just compile the unstable package then |
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| 15:00.29 | Larry | anyone can help me |
| 15:00.31 | Larry | with glib |
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| 15:00.37 | azeem_ | !ask |
| 15:00.37 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 15:00.46 | Larry | i did ask |
| 15:00.52 | abrotman | gravity: can people with bugs like this one go to debian-x mailing list, or should they go to debian-user ? |
| 15:01.18 | abrotman | Larry: which application are you trying to run ? |
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| 15:01.29 | Larry | its just a game server i have |
| 15:01.42 | Larry | in centos it works but in debian it doesnt |
| 15:01.50 | azeem | so probably you need to recompiler it |
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| 15:01.51 | Larry | says it cant find libglib although it is installed |
| 15:01.54 | abrotman | Larry: what is the name of the binary? |
| 15:02.01 | Larry | which binary |
| 15:02.07 | azeem | Larry: what does "dpkg -l | grep libglib" say? |
| 15:02.24 | Larry | libglib2.0-0 2.12.4-2 |
| 15:02.28 | Larry | and libglib 1 |
| 15:02.34 | Larry | libglib1.2 1.2.10-17 |
| 15:02.42 | abrotman | the binary you're trying to run that isn't running |
| 15:03.04 | azeem | Larry: does running "ldd <binary>" yield some useful output? If so, post it to a pastebin |
| 15:03.12 | Larry | ok |
| 15:03.23 | gravity | abrotman: Basically, if the driver doesn't configure itself properly and it's a Free driver that's being actively maintained, it's a bug |
| 15:03.28 | Larry | libglib-2.0.so.0 => not found |
| 15:03.54 | gravity | azeem: Although if people are futzing with kernel modesetting (I can't really tell from reading backscroll what the problem is) then that's their problem |
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| 15:04.06 | gravity | azeem: Stuff that we're not shipping yet is being done for a reason |
| 15:04.22 | gravity | azeem: Er, sorry, tab complete. That was for abrotman |
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| 15:04.28 | azeem | heh, ok |
| 15:04.33 | gravity | :-) |
| 15:04.55 | abrotman | gravity: no, don't think he is, but it's an old trident pci card .. screen goes black, seemingly takes the console with it |
| 15:05.03 | azeem | Larry: well the binary is broken then |
| 15:05.05 | azeem | 16:00 < azeem> so probably you need to recompiler it |
| 15:05.51 | abrotman | guzu: oh, that's your fedora bug .. so you're saying it happens in FC9/10 and Lenny ? |
| 15:06.15 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah, that's a bug. |
| 15:06.23 | gravity | abrotman: Although trident isn't really being cared for upstream |
| 15:06.23 | guzu | abrotman, i believe it happens in all distros wich have the newer xorg (1.5+) |
| 15:06.35 | abrotman | gravity: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458226 is seemingly his bug |
| 15:06.39 | gravity | guzu: Basically trident needs someone to care for it |
| 15:07.00 | gravity | guzu: If you've got any C skills at all, patches to fix the issue would be very welcome |
| 15:07.01 | guzu | gravity, i agree but i have no idea how to take care of this child |
| 15:07.16 | gravity | nods |
| 15:07.33 | abrotman | guzu: but you're saying FC9 once worked, and now fails ? |
| 15:07.36 | guzu | gravity, i have some basic c skills, but i'm in no way a driver patcher |
| 15:07.47 | gravity | Yeah, and X isn't simple. |
| 15:08.03 | guzu | abrotman, yes because one the newer xorg was available, it was pushed to updates |
| 15:08.21 | guzu | s/one/once |
| 15:08.24 | abrotman | ah .. got it |
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| 15:08.34 | guzu | bad habits die hard |
| 15:08.37 | gravity | guzu: If you hop on the Xorg mailing list or pop in to #xorg-devel on freenode you might be able to get some guidance for figuring out a bugfix if you want to go down that route. Alternately, you can post to the xorg mailing list and see what kind of help you'll get. |
| 15:08.55 | gravity | guzu: Someone on the list may have a config idea for you |
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| 15:09.09 | guzu | gravity, ok, i'll try that |
| 15:09.17 | gravity | guzu: Good luck! |
| 15:09.30 | guzu | abrotman, gravity, thnx a lot |
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| 15:09.48 | abrotman | guzu: i was just going to ask you if you'd tried the driver optoins for the trident driver |
| 15:10.28 | guzu | abrotman, at first run, as i and only i copuld see in that xorg.log, the driver was trident |
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| 15:13.22 | abrotman | sometimes .. man pages suck |
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| 15:14.28 | Xeross | whats the type of authentication called that authenticates with the linux users am trying to get exim to auth be them |
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| 15:15.31 | joltcan | Xeross: For sending? |
| 15:16.23 | humbolt1 | If anybody needs working nbdrootd xinetd config files, go grab the ones from Fedora. But be aware that the ones in the RPM are not the ones you see after installation as the rpm installer still runs some scripts on them. I just note that here for the logs. |
| 15:17.03 | Xeross | joltcan: i need external computers to be able to send through exim with smtp but i want to use authentication for that witht he linux users |
| 15:18.02 | joltcan | Xeross: http://wiki.exim.org/AuthenticatedSmtpUsingPamAndPasswords? |
| 15:18.31 | joltcan | Xeross: But if its external hosts, then I would have used something else, like a external password file and just do lookups in it |
| 15:18.51 | jelly-home | Xeross: /usr/share/doc/exim4-daemon-light/README.Debian.gz 2.3. SMTP-AUTH |
| 15:19.47 | Xeross | why is it gzipped |
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| 15:20.00 | jelly-home | debian policy. |
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| 15:20.27 | Xeross | jelly-home: Can i read it somehow without extracting ? |
| 15:20.30 | joltcan | Xeross: because it's big, so use zless/zmore to read it |
| 15:20.35 | jelly-home | Xeross: zless |
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| 15:23.03 | abrotman | humbolt1: did you try to alien them? |
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| 15:24.05 | Xeross | so that would mean i use sasl ? |
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| 15:27.13 | xxiao | if [ -n "$$$$$$$$modules" ]; then ----same here, what does the 8 $ sign mean? |
| 15:27.27 | jelly-home | Xeross: it seems so. I don't actually use exim in important places, so can't vouch for it. |
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| 15:29.26 | jelly-home | Xeross: there's also http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ and http://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4 |
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| 15:43.44 | linkmaster03 | does anyone know of a vnc server that supports a current display? like I can VNC into the display that is already on the monitor? |
| 15:43.45 | Avatar_ | i have a question, i think the reason for my phpmyadmin problem is, that /tmp in my vserver is only 16 MB, how can i resize it ? |
| 15:44.22 | abrotman | Avatar_: themill told you that a long time ago (about it being small) |
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| 15:45.52 | Avatar_ | thx abrotman, but systemadmin is totally new 4 me |
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| 15:46.33 | Avatar_ | problem fixed, thx |
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| 15:49.46 | Xeross | damn i cant get the ssl to work with exim, the ssl certificates are generated and ssl is enabled but ti doesnt listen |
| 15:50.51 | lvh | hello. I'm having a problem with python-ropemacs in testing. |
| 15:50.56 | lvh | Pastebin: http://rafb.net/p/DrDhgY38.html |
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| 15:51.15 | lvh | Specifically: __main__.PyCentralError: package has no field Python-Version |
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| 15:51.32 | lvh | I don't like to suggest stuff is broken so quickly, but that sure looks like it. Any ideas? |
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| 15:54.22 | lvh | It looks like my package system is in a bad state. How can I tell it to stop trying to install that particular package? |
| 15:55.29 | nkuttler | !errors |
| 15:55.29 | dpkg | if you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors, or - ask me about <localized errors> too |
| 15:56.11 | Xeross | Cmon guys im already working on this mail stuff for 6 hours |
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| 15:56.32 | lvh | nkuttler: I pasted the problem a bit earlier. |
| 15:56.36 | lvh | nkuttler: http://rafb.net/p/DrDhgY38.html |
| 15:56.38 | abrotman | Xeross: you're not giving us anythign .. are there errors? log messages? |
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| 15:56.56 | Xeross | Problems: everyting not originating from 127.0.0.1 is denied. 2 It isnt listening on port 465. no errors |
| 15:57.15 | nkuttler | lvh: fix /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-ropemacs.postinst |
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| 15:57.37 | Xeross | ive added http://pastebin.com/m5e9d26fd to the config file am using non split config |
| 15:57.53 | Xeross | shold i change daemon_smtp_ports to 2525 : 465 ? |
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| 15:58.03 | BornToBePuli | hi |
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| 15:59.04 | lvh | nkuttler: And then remove the package? |
| 15:59.09 | Xeross | thats all i can give afaik if you need anything else tell me and i can giv |
| 15:59.30 | nkuttler | lvh: yes, if the postinst script returns 0 the package will uninstall |
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| 15:59.55 | lvh | nkuttler: well, I was actually still trying to install :-D |
| 16:00.19 | nkuttler | er, right. anyway, fix it |
| 16:00.34 | lvh | nkuttler: so now I have to fix the prerm file? |
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| 16:00.43 | Xeross | abrotman: What else do you need |
| 16:00.44 | lvh | It's installed, but I can't remove it. |
| 16:00.45 | lvh | SAme error. |
| 16:00.58 | nkuttler | lvh: read the error, it tells you which script fails |
| 16:01.04 | lvh | (PyCentral isn't happy with the lack of Package-Version) |
| 16:01.17 | abrotman | Xeross: i don't use exim .. i was just noting that you weren't giving us anything to help you .. did you check the exim logs? system logs ? |
| 16:01.58 | lvh | nkuttler: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
| 16:02.12 | nkuttler | lvh: package.prerm |
| 16:02.12 | lvh | nkuttler: I'm guessing that's /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-ropemacs.prerm |
| 16:02.15 | lvh | yep. |
| 16:02.35 | Xeross | abrotman: Nothing about smtp except some frozen message |
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| 16:02.51 | Xeross | smtp works fine localy but anything external even in the same network gets denied |
| 16:03.30 | lvh | nkuttler: Yay, it uninstalled \o/ Thanks. |
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| 16:03.59 | nkuttler | lvh: while you're at it, apt-get install reportbug and report it |
| 16:04.10 | Ace2017_- | ok i have my fonts setup now |
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| 16:04.17 | nareshov | wow |
| 16:04.19 | nareshov | congrats |
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| 16:04.33 | themill | !dbugs 519382 |
| 16:04.35 | Ace2017_- | thanks |
| 16:04.37 | dpkg | #519382:G[python-ropemacs] dpkg: error processing python-ropemacs (--configure) (patch); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:54:02 UTC [] |
| 16:04.51 | nkuttler | lvh: ^^ |
| 16:04.54 | themill | !btssmite lvh |
| 16:04.54 | dpkg | beats lvh around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if lvh is running Unstable |
| 16:05.08 | nkuttler | yeah, he is |
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| 16:05.18 | jelly-home | Xeross: tried asking in #exim? |
| 16:05.22 | lvh | I am? |
| 16:05.30 | nkuttler | lvh: at least testing |
| 16:05.33 | lvh | I thought I was pinned to Testing. |
| 16:05.36 | lvh | nkuttler: Yep. |
| 16:06.16 | Xeross | jelly: Their answers take about 3 hours to arrive |
| 16:06.27 | Xeross | jelly-home: THey just repliad to a question i asked 3 hours ago |
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| 16:06.30 | lvh | I have unstable in my sources.list, but there's a good reason for that. |
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| 16:07.37 | themill | lvh: remember to look at the bts when you hit problems like this... it will often be helpful and contain a patch that fixes the problem. |
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| 16:09.09 | lvh | themill: Noted. I figured a package that obviously broken wouldn't have made it into testing -- unless I misunderstand the error message, that package can't install properly, ever |
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| 16:09.30 | nkuttler | lvh: the people who use it in unstable probably have the dep installed |
| 16:10.08 | lvh | nkuttler: Which dep? |
| 16:10.13 | themill | lvh: not all horrid bugs get caught, and it may be that something in pycentral has changed which broke this package. (I've not looked closely) |
| 16:10.18 | gentlyninja | how does this this work in java.regex.pattern " Groups beginning with (? are pure, non-capturing groups that do not capture text and do not count towards the group total. " i tried it with (?anyregex) but i get then a PatternSyntaxException: Unknown inline modifier near index ... |
| 16:11.05 | lvh | so what would be the correct way to fix this? Get the source deb, unpack, apply, repack, install? |
| 16:11.08 | nkuttler | lvh: i think i just confused you with somebody else, forget about it |
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| 16:12.07 | nkuttler | lvh: it looks like /usr/bin/pycentral fails, you could try to fix that |
| 16:12.46 | lvh | nkuttler: Well, the problem is that the package's headers are bad (at least according to the person who wrote the supposed fix) |
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| 16:12.55 | nkuttler | lvh: yeah, just seen that too |
| 16:13.03 | nkuttler | lvh: re-packaging is an option |
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| 16:14.57 | Gnurdux | is there a 2-way pipe in bash? |
| 16:16.16 | dionysia1 | i downloaded the files required for a net install of lenny from a usb stick. i wanted to make sure it was possible to get my wireless network card up using b43 so i can connect to the internet for the install |
| 16:16.36 | Gnurdux | something that pipes the output of A into B and the output of B into A>? |
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| 16:17.05 | nkuttler | Gnurdux: does any shell do that? a|b|a |
| 16:17.12 | Gnurdux | no |
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| 16:17.18 | Gnurdux | the SAME run of the program |
| 16:17.37 | nkuttler | Gnurdux: hm, try #bash |
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| 16:18.29 | MarkG123 | Hi, just installed Debian, and having a nightmare with CURL libraries, in true Linux style, it seems they made nonpbackwards compatible changes recently. How can I get a newer version of curl? I did a network install, and have no idea how to get updates... |
| 16:19.17 | abrotman | what are you trying to compile ? |
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| 16:20.26 | Ace2017_- | i'm starting to think that this small font thing was a bad idea |
| 16:20.42 | AusbilderSchmidt | hello sorry i got this error messages when i try apt-get update any idea ? it seems ipv6 related http://pastebin.ca/1361509 thanks |
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| 16:21.02 | MarkG123 | some cross compile stuff, it's failing on CURL, as it's downloading a new version 7.19.4, and I get problems with curl_off_t not defined |
| 16:21.23 | abrotman | Ace2017_-: didn't valdyn try to tell you that? |
| 16:21.24 | AusbilderSchmidt | Err http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages |
| 16:21.24 | AusbilderSchmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.05 | nkuttler | AusbilderSchmidt: 404... try different mirrors. do etch backports still exists at all? |
| 16:22.10 | abrotman | AusbilderSchmidt: you're mixing etch and experimental .. doesn't that seem like a bad idea ? |
| 16:22.16 | abrotman | and sarge webmin .. eww |
| 16:22.32 | Ace2017_- | abrotman: not too sure, i'll have to read the backlog on the specifics |
| 16:22.55 | AusbilderSchmidt | well its works for month |
| 16:23.05 | jelly-home | MarkG123: Pastebin the exact failing command and the complete output. |
| 16:23.21 | AusbilderSchmidt | dunno if its a good or bad thing |
| 16:23.41 | AusbilderSchmidt | and i need the experimental stuff |
| 16:23.46 | AusbilderSchmidt | so what should i do |
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| 16:24.40 | jelly-home | AusbilderSchmidt: you could disable ipv6 if you don't actually have ipv6 connectivity. |
| 16:24.53 | jelly-home | AusbilderSchmidt: /msg dpkg noipv6 |
| 16:25.01 | AusbilderSchmidt | ok |
| 16:25.11 | Xeross | at moments like this i feel like turning to automutilation :( |
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| 16:25.37 | AusbilderSchmidt | but a dig shows me that there is a AAAA record |
| 16:25.38 | AusbilderSchmidt | ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: |
| 16:25.39 | AusbilderSchmidt | klecker.debian.org. 146 IN AAAA 2001:888:2000:12::2 |
| 16:26.05 | AusbilderSchmidt | and i have ipv6 connectivity |
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| 16:27.05 | nkuttler | AusbilderSchmidt: really, if it says 404 get your favorite ftp client and check if the directories exist |
| 16:27.18 | MarkG123 | http://pastebin.com/m102c78a3 |
| 16:27.27 | AusbilderSchmidt | maybe there was an update |
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| 16:29.07 | nkuttler | AusbilderSchmidt: your sources mix looks really unhealthy |
| 16:29.40 | AusbilderSchmidt | it worked seamlessly for month |
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| 16:29.44 | AusbilderSchmidt | sorry |
| 16:29.47 | dionysia1 | i downloaded the files required for a net install of lenny from a usb stick. i wanted to make sure it was possible to get my wireless network card up using b43 so i can connect to the internet for the install |
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| 16:30.18 | SQlvpapir | dionysia1: there is always trying |
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| 16:30.51 | Xeross | how do i restore a default config file ? |
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| 16:33.24 | Booley | Xeross, in what? |
| 16:33.42 | MarkG123 | so, any clues? It seems to me I need libcurl > 7.19, but how do I go about getting that in Debian 5? |
| 16:34.13 | Booley | MarkG123, it may be in experimental |
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| 16:34.34 | Xeross | Booley: of a package |
| 16:34.36 | MarkG123 | how do I add expermental packages? |
| 16:34.56 | pngwn | !experimental |
| 16:34.56 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference, or http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
| 16:34.58 | Booley | Xeross, hm... apt-get purge packagename? |
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| 16:35.25 | Booley | Xeross, but it delete a package at all |
| 16:35.46 | Xeross | Booley? |
| 16:35.49 | jelly-home | MarkG123: you said you were doing cross compiling. That usually means a toolchain separate from the distro one. |
| 16:36.18 | jelly-home | MarkG123: that said, are you sure you want to replace the Debian curl version? |
| 16:36.29 | dionysia1 | so experimental is like kde4x? |
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| 16:37.44 | MarkG123 | well I don't really have to much choice. I only install debian to do the cross compiling because cygwin is not currently supported :-) |
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| 16:38.17 | MarkG123 | I chose debian, because of the minimal install, and only add packages I needed. |
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| 16:38.58 | xoz | chose debian because of the social contract and package management |
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| 16:39.51 | jelly-home | MarkG123: what are you really trying to do? Perhaps if you explained the situation, and, $DEITY forbid, shown the actual commands failing and their output, you might get better answers. |
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| 16:39.51 | gigo | when would vim 7.2 be available in Squeeze? |
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| 16:39.51 | dionysia1 | those are the wrong reasons |
| 16:39.53 | n2c_ | please,can someone directly point me to a squeeze usb image for netinstall? |
| 16:40.13 | dionysia1 | dunno about squeeze |
| 16:40.15 | xoz | n2c_: google? |
| 16:40.18 | n2c_ | lenny? |
| 16:40.25 | n2c_ | I know RTFM question |
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| 16:40.42 | dionysia1 | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 16:40.45 | n2c_ | but Im really getting confused about USBimages versus CDiso |
| 16:40.55 | xoz | notes that google has the answers |
| 16:41.05 | jelly-home | !tell gigo -about why is vim not in testing |
| 16:41.12 | dionysia1 | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 16:41.27 | DaemonDEB | hmmm, all of my wireless chipsets seem to be doing unpredictable things that only happen on Debian |
| 16:41.56 | MarkG123 | Well I am trying to cross compile a PS3 Boot CD that uses pdaxrom-ng, it does not work currently on cygwin, so I need to compile on Linux, so running debian 5 in VirtualBox. |
| 16:42.41 | MarkG123 | however the the pdaxrom script downloads a newer version of CURL, thats not compatible with the libcurl that lenny has. |
| 16:42.51 | n2c_ | ah thanks... |
| 16:42.52 | MarkG123 | that's all I really know.. |
| 16:42.56 | xoz | DaemonDEB: could you be more specfic |
| 16:42.58 | n2c_ | I tried to dd the images:( |
| 16:43.34 | DaemonDEB | My Ralink 2561 chipset changes rates til it gets down to 1 mbps, then it works fine, at 1 mbps :P |
| 16:43.39 | jelly-home | MarkG123: you'll need to convince your script not to use the system curl at all. |
| 16:43.47 | DaemonDEB | the Broadcom just dies at odd intervals |
| 16:44.07 | DaemonDEB | works great in between |
| 16:44.08 | MarkG123 | I would rather install a newer debian CURL, than install CURL outsite of apt, but that's the way it's looking I have to go. |
| 16:44.28 | xoz | DaemonDEB: you mean linux kernel driver problem? |
| 16:45.04 | feNNec_ | Hi, I'm on testing (squeeze) and I get a error message everytime I open a root terminal since gconf2 update on 3rd March. Is it the same for you? |
| 16:45.06 | jelly-home | MarkG123: I'd just remove any trace of OS installed curl. |
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| 16:45.16 | MarkG123 | unfortunatly I am not a linux developers, and can't really edit complex build scripts. |
| 16:45.35 | MarkG123 | seems Linux really is only for developers :-( |
| 16:45.59 | dionysia1 | cross compiling is only for developers |
| 16:46.03 | jelly-home | MarkG123: or people not afraid to mangle stuff |
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| 16:46.42 | dionysia1 | you're not having problems using the operating system, you're having problems cross-compiling |
| 16:46.52 | DaemonDEB | I can see why that Warren whatshisname went with 2.6.27 for Mepis |
| 16:46.52 | DaemonDEB | it solved a lot of these problems and has integrated webcam drivers |
| 16:46.52 | DaemonDEB | yeah, seems like Debian is using the older, bug-prone rt61pci |
| 16:46.59 | DaemonDEB | I just reset the router to defaults to see if it was just some odd setting that the kernel drivers just don't expect |
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| 16:47.21 | gigo | jelly-home, dpkg says that vim is only 10 days old but I have been using vim 7.2 for the last few months |
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| 16:48.35 | jelly-home | gigo: it says the current package in unstable is X days old. |
| 16:48.40 | feNNec_ | Anyone for the error message on root terminal since gconf2 update?? |
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| 16:49.05 | gigo | jelly-home, oh, so I can expect vim 7.2 to be available in squeeze in a few more days? |
| 16:49.18 | Ace2017_- | does gtk support bitmap fonts? |
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| 16:49.44 | Ace2017_- | the font shows up as upright rectangles in gtk2 :( |
| 16:49.58 | xoz | gigo: what's with vim 7.2 you want? |
| 16:49.59 | jelly-home | gigo: barring other problems, yes, stuff from unstable falls down to testing after 10 days. |
| 16:50.25 | gigo | xoz, vim 7.2 onwards, we can map shift-space to some other key, say, escape. |
| 16:51.08 | gigo | it will help me to get rid of pressing escape key which requires moving the hand away from home row. with vim 7.2 I can map my keys such that shift+enter will result in escaping to normal mode. that will be cold. |
| 16:51.14 | gigo | cool* |
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| 16:51.45 | xoz | gigo: gigo ctrl-esc is ok |
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| 16:51.58 | xoz | gigo: err, ctrl-3 |
| 16:52.08 | themill | gigo: you can probably map your capslock key across that way using xmodmap |
| 16:52.29 | gigo | xoz, actually to press control, you need to twist your left hand a little anti-clockwise towards the lower side of the keyboard. |
| 16:52.49 | xoz | gigo: i make caps-lock as my control key |
| 16:52.53 | gigo | themill, capslock mapping has to be done in the OS which is not portable. :-( I use gvim in windows as well as Linux. |
| 16:53.22 | themill | gigo: and you can use gvim 7.2 in windows already so you only need to remap it in linux :) |
| 16:53.23 | gigo | anyway, thanks for the suggestions. i will wait a few more days for vim 7.2 to make it to squeeze. |
| 16:53.28 | xoz | gigo: it is always better to replace caps-lock key with control key. |
| 16:53.54 | gigo | themill, but I would want the same key combination in both OSes. so that my mind does not need to re-tune itself as per the OS. :-) |
| 16:53.55 | themill | xoz: actually, I have caps mapped to compose... just to be confusing |
| 16:54.06 | gigo | themill, what is 'compose' ? |
| 16:54.18 | themill | gigo: so fix windoze so that you can remap the keys! |
| 16:54.19 | xoz | notes that his first thing to replace is the caps-lock key.... it is useless |
| 16:54.33 | themill | dpkg: tell gigo about compose |
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| 16:55.08 | DaemonDEB` | that time the entire networking stack died |
| 16:55.14 | xoz | themill: mac keyboard and jpan keyboard has the control key instead of caps lock key. american keyboard should have this also. |
| 16:55.17 | DaemonDEB` | I had to reboot |
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| 16:55.56 | themill | xoz: yeah, well... at least with linux, you're free to do that yourself |
| 16:56.20 | DaemonDEB` | I'm about to give up all over this buggy networking |
| 16:56.22 | guzu | what is the codename of debian 3.1? |
| 16:56.31 | W^X | guzu: Sarge |
| 16:56.41 | guzu | W^X, thnx a lot |
| 16:57.17 | DaemonDEB` | xoz: The last thing the kernel logged before the network collapsed are a bunch of "message handler not found" entries |
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| 16:58.03 | anchor_ | Hi, which ICQ client can you recommend? |
| 16:58.29 | dionysia1 | does pidgin do icq? |
| 16:58.39 | dionysia1 | if so, probably pidgin |
| 16:59.15 | W^X | anchor_: Pidgin would be mine. |
| 16:59.25 | xoz | DaemonDEB`: seems you have a missing driver |
| 16:59.26 | W^X | anchor_ If you're using KDE however, you may want to take a look at kopete |
| 16:59.34 | feNNec_ | comin back with my pb: I'm on testing (squeeze) and I get a error message everytime I open a root terminal since gconf2 update on 3rd March. Is it the same for you? |
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| 16:59.44 | abrotman | anchor_: pidgin does icq, but they changed the protocol over the weekend and broke stuff IIRC |
| 16:59.46 | DaemonDEB` | I have broadcom firmware and the b43 driver |
| 16:59.54 | DaemonDEB` | that's about it, right? |
| 16:59.57 | xoz | feNNec_: what error? |
| 17:00.11 | guzu | W^X, do you know if/where i can still find updates for sarge? |
| 17:00.21 | xoz | DaemonDEB`: what specific model? |
| 17:00.29 | DaemonDEB` | 4318 |
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| 17:00.44 | DaemonDEB` | also have a lot of problems with my Ralink 2561 |
| 17:00.52 | W^X | guzu: The sarge reps would be the logical place to look |
| 17:00.58 | DaemonDEB` | I think that's just cause Debian uses the bad driver |
| 17:01.27 | anchor_ | pidgin says that it obsolete - but testing repo doesn't contain fresh one |
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| 17:01.32 | DaemonDEB` | the guy that wrote it even admits the driver in 2.6.26 and earlier is buggy |
| 17:02.14 | HeXiLeD | is there a way to list something like the last 50 recently installed packages ? |
| 17:02.18 | xoz | DaemonDEB`: it is not really debian. the linux kernel debian uses is similar to the other distros except for some patches. |
| 17:02.26 | feNNec_ | something like : "the connexion with the server has failed; possible reasons: you didn't activate TCP/IP for ORBit or non valid NFS locks remain..." |
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| 17:02.44 | xoz | HeXiLeD: you can go to /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 17:02.46 | jpinx | anchor_: pidgin used to be, but it's havinf "issues" at the moment |
| 17:02.50 | DaemonDEB` | xoz: Yes I know this, but 2.6.26 in general has a lot of problems |
| 17:02.54 | xoz | HeXiLeD: and issue ls -ltr *.list |
| 17:02.59 | feNNec_ | all further settings are discard |
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| 17:03.36 | dupondje | /bin/ldconfig: /lib/libblkid.so.1 is not a symbolic link |
| 17:03.37 | xoz | DaemonDEB`: so far, i have no problems with it running ralink |
| 17:03.41 | dupondje | any id why I get this ? |
| 17:03.44 | dionysia1 | so from a netinst, will i have access to iwconfig, dhcpcd, b43-fwcutter, and the b43 firmware? |
| 17:03.52 | DaemonDEB` | but Debian's network stack makes me want to get an exorcist, the only thing that appears to work right is ethernet cable |
| 17:03.55 | nootoyahora | hello to everyone, I'm using ipmasq to make a router with a debian box, so it routes my network connection to an internal network, and I'm having trouble with it, here it is http://pastebin.com/m3b03673f anyone can help me please? |
| 17:03.57 | anchor_ | So any suggestions about icq messaging for now? |
| 17:03.57 | DaemonDEB` | *sigh* |
| 17:04.09 | xoz | dupondje: cd /lib |
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| 17:04.20 | feNNec_ | the pb seems also affecting nautilus in root |
| 17:04.31 | xoz | ls -l /lib/libblkid.so.1 |
| 17:04.44 | dupondje | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2009-03-14 20:41 /lib/libblkid.so.1 -> libblkid.so.1.0 |
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| 17:05.15 | mhymn | anchor_: maybe kopete! google is your friend btw |
| 17:05.43 | DaemonDEB` | xoz: I've tried all the usual suspects, even disabling ipv6 |
| 17:05.44 | dionysia1 | is there somewhere i can check, maybe? |
| 17:06.37 | anchor_ | mhymn, Thank you. I'll try it |
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| 17:06.49 | DaemonDEB` | one minute it's working perfect, the next it just dies, no warning |
| 17:06.51 | xoz | dupondje: reinstall libblkid1 |
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| 17:07.07 | DaemonDEB` | and nothing in the kernel log giving me any clue what it's doing |
| 17:07.19 | xoz | DaemonDEB`: are you using wpa_supplicant or just normal wep? |
| 17:07.28 | DaemonDEB` | wpa_supplicant |
| 17:07.34 | dupondje | xoz: /bin/ldconfig: /lib/libblkid.so.1 is not a symbolic link |
| 17:07.35 | dupondje | still :( |
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| 17:07.45 | dupondje | its not the only giving this error btw |
| 17:07.52 | DaemonDEB | WEP is not even worth thinking about |
| 17:08.00 | DaemonDEB | it's about as bad as an open connection |
| 17:08.33 | xoz | dupondje: what is the content of /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 17:08.46 | dupondje | include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf |
| 17:09.07 | xoz | dupondje: run ldconfig? |
| 17:09.18 | feNNec_ | (testing) root terminal pb shows error like "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.)" |
| 17:09.22 | dupondje | 'ldconfig' doesn't give anny errors :) |
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| 17:10.16 | xoz | DaemonDEB: is it possible it is your router? |
| 17:10.38 | DaemonDEB | xoz: Doubtful |
| 17:10.45 | xoz | DaemonDEB: if ralink and bc are not working, then maybe you have to check the router. |
| 17:10.50 | DaemonDEB | if it was a bad router, then any OS should be affected |
| 17:10.51 | xoz | DaemonDEB: what is your router? |
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| 17:11.07 | DaemonDEB | Ubuntu works, Windows works, Mandriva works... |
| 17:11.11 | xoz | DaemonDEB: what about using a differnt kernel version |
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| 17:11.33 | DaemonDEB | it does appear to be the kernel |
| 17:11.53 | xoz | DaemonDEB: you said the developer himself... isnt it the same developer in all kernel... including mandriva. |
| 17:12.16 | DaemonDEB | yeah, but Mandriva uses 2.6.27.19 currently |
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| 17:12.52 | xoz | DaemonDEB: you can pull the linus kernel and use make-kpkg for building your own kernel if you want to try. |
| 17:13.00 | DaemonDEB | from the developer+chatter around the net I think this problem must have been fixed in 2.6.27 |
| 17:13.32 | dupondje | xoz: any other id's ? :( |
| 17:14.02 | DaemonDEB | I'm running Sid on one of my other systems for the hell of it |
| 17:14.03 | DaemonDEB | same issues |
| 17:14.22 | xoz | DaemonDEB: what kernel in sid? |
| 17:14.33 | DaemonDEB | it reported 2.6.26-1 |
| 17:14.36 | DaemonDEB | which was odd |
| 17:14.37 | xoz | dupondje: what command you issue to have that error? |
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| 17:15.03 | xoz | DaemonDEB: building your own kernel using make-kpkg is not that difficult. |
| 17:15.06 | DaemonDEB | but network related bugs can happen in many other packages besides the kernel |
| 17:15.20 | DaemonDEB | How do you go about that? |
| 17:15.32 | xoz | DaemonDEB: /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
| 17:15.39 | HeXiLeD | what extra package do i need to solve this ? Starting mouse interface server: gpm failed! . this is a console box only |
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| 17:16.16 | stew | DaemonDEB: 2.6.26 isn't in sid 2.6.28 is |
| 17:16.30 | xoz | DaemonDEB: if it is a driver problem, test that assumption by getting the 2.6.27 and build your own kernel. |
| 17:16.43 | DaemonDEB | xoz: Most of what I know about Debian I learned from Ubuntu, before that it was Red Hat |
| 17:16.59 | DaemonDEB | so I'm not really up to speed on any Debian-specifics |
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| 17:17.43 | DaemonDEB | stew: That's why I think something screwed up |
| 17:17.47 | dvs | !depends linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 17:17.51 | stew | judd: kernels |
| 17:17.52 | DaemonDEB | I must have gotten a partial upgrade |
| 17:17.53 | judd | stew: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-2~snapshot.12850); sid: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); lenny: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 17:18.01 | jpinx | anyone know how to make fdupes delete all but the newest file, the default is to delete all but the oldest? |
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| 17:18.37 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6-686: depends on linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 17:18.54 | abrotman | yes, broken |
| 17:19.05 | Akuw | i recover some files i deleted but now when i try to open i get ##g�###�#######Å+ |
| 17:19.06 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:19.21 | infinity0 | how do i change the speed on the ttys? |
| 17:19.52 | DaemonDEB | I think the damned thing has decided to behave |
| 17:19.57 | DaemonDEB | nobody sneeze |
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| 17:22.16 | jakuub | do anyoe want t-mobile G1 ?;-) |
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| 17:23.17 | xoz | infinity0: what speed? repeat speed of keys? |
| 17:23.47 | skx | Hello, I need a guide to snort for dummies, could you recommend one? |
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| 17:24.14 | infinity0 | xoz: no, speed of output text |
| 17:24.22 | infinity0 | as in, getting it printed to the screen |
| 17:25.01 | xoz | infinity0: is this tty in X? or plain console? |
| 17:25.26 | klaz168 | is it possible to find which packages are on which cd? (lenny installation cds) |
| 17:25.28 | infinity0 | plain console |
| 17:25.35 | infinity0 | tty1 - tty6 |
| 17:25.53 | stew | klaz168: /msg dpkg which cd |
| 17:26.26 | Xeross | guys im looking for documentation on the file 30_exim4-config_check_rcpt of the split config exim but its nowhere to be found |
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| 17:26.32 | klaz168 | sweet thx |
| 17:26.49 | infinity0 | xoz: plain console |
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| 17:29.11 | xoz | infinity0: remote console? what's the speed of your comp? |
| 17:29.36 | infinity0 | no, local console, and speed is enough that the slowness is obviously caused by some setting |
| 17:29.40 | infinity0 | xterm is fine for example |
| 17:29.46 | infinity0 | but plain console updates the screen very slowly |
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| 17:31.13 | jelly-home | infinity0: framebuffer console or text mode? framebuffer default settings are completely nonaccelerated |
| 17:31.29 | jelly-home | infinity0: use X. :-) |
| 17:32.12 | infinity0 | jelly-home: er, how can i tell if it's fbuf or text mode? |
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| 17:32.49 | jelly-home | infinity0: text mode = 80x25 characters and no Tux picture at boot |
| 17:32.53 | xoz | infinity0: lsmod and see any fb there |
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| 17:33.10 | jelly-home | infinity0: also, lack of /dev/fb* device |
| 17:33.17 | beardy | infinity0: blinking square or underline? |
| 17:33.17 | infinity0 | oh ok in that case it's fbuf because i'm using a 1280x800 vga mode for the kernel which is "vesa" and not "vga" type |
| 17:33.31 | xoz | infinity0: yep, fb is slow |
| 17:33.32 | infinity0 | but the speed issue was still there for the 80x25 vga mode |
| 17:33.45 | xoz | infinity0: change to vga=normal in grub |
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| 17:33.50 | beardy | It's always slow. |
| 17:33.52 | jelly-home | !nofb |
| 17:33.52 | dpkg | Append "video=vga16:off" to the kernel at boot time to disable the framebuffer. |
| 17:33.53 | beardy | !nofb |
| 17:34.01 | beardy | !win jelly-home |
| 17:34.01 | dpkg | Congratulations, jelly-home! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 17:34.19 | jelly-home | shares it all with beardy |
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| 17:34.27 | beardy | Yay. |
| 17:34.37 | infinity0 | xoz: er but then the screen isn't as big :/ |
| 17:34.45 | Xeross | Exim blocks me out before i can authenticate while it has an allow authenticated = * |
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| 17:35.08 | xoz | infinity0: small but snappy is better than big and lanky |
| 17:35.21 | infinity0 | xoz: lol i said the issue was there previously anyway |
| 17:35.23 | MadMax777 | is anyone here an expert in setting up a LAMP stack on debian etch x64 |
| 17:35.30 | MadMax777 | and wants to make some money |
| 17:35.31 | xoz | infinity0: man stty also |
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| 17:36.05 | infinity0 | beardy: blinking underline but it's always been like this |
| 17:36.30 | infinity0 | jelly-home: and lsmod | grep fb gives "fbcon [something] 0" |
| 17:36.36 | dvs | only believes in LAPP |
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| 17:36.45 | Xeross | Guys i have my exim configured properly with sasl ive followed this guide for debian but it locks out everything else then 127.0.0.1 while its configured with auth it locks it out before even letting it auth. no errors in the logs no messages in the logs. how can i fix this ? |
| 17:36.59 | jelly-home | infinity0: and vesafb or some other *fb |
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| 17:37.03 | infinity0 | xoz: stty reports the same settings for xterm as for the plain console |
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| 17:37.27 | MadMax777 | wonderful, i need mysql, not postgre |
| 17:37.36 | infinity0 | jelly-home: nothing for lsmod | grep vesa |
| 17:37.36 | MadMax777 | mysql 5.1 to be exact |
| 17:37.41 | xoz | infinity0: try disable fb and see if you still have slow terminal |
| 17:38.01 | infinity0 | i did lol, when i had 80x25 vga it was still slow |
| 17:38.02 | dvs | !start a db war |
| 17:38.02 | dpkg | MySQL is faster than DB/2 |
| 17:38.51 | infinity0 | (or whatever the width was, might have been 80x30 r smth) |
| 17:38.53 | xoz | infinity0: tweak stty |
| 17:39.13 | DaemonDEB | XFS is far superior to Ext3 |
| 17:39.18 | DaemonDEB | starts a file system war |
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| 17:39.40 | XLV | ext4 ftw |
| 17:39.45 | dvs | HPFS rules! |
| 17:39.56 | MadMax777 | FAT32 ftw |
| 17:40.05 | DaemonDEB | I use XFS because I value faster disk operations over easier recovery |
| 17:40.09 | DaemonDEB | backups are your friend |
| 17:40.16 | jelly-home | xoz: where have you experienced that changing stty settings made any difference on a Linux console? |
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| 17:40.47 | infinity0 | xoz: well i do stty 115200 and it succeeds but it's still slov |
| 17:40.48 | infinity0 | slow |
| 17:40.50 | DaemonDEB | MadMax777: I have installed Linux on FAT32 before |
| 17:40.54 | infinity0 | i don't think stty will fix it |
| 17:41.07 | MadMax777 | for shits and giggles? |
| 17:41.20 | infinity0 | as i said, xterm and console both say "baud 38400" and now "baud 115200" but console is still slow and xterm is fast |
| 17:41.25 | xoz | jelly-home: what is your point? you want to insult me? just correct if im wrong. |
| 17:41.33 | DaemonDEB | yeah, Mandrake used to have a loopback fs option kind of like Ubuntu's Wubi |
| 17:41.39 | xoz | jelly-home: ok? we are here to help. not to show superiority. |
| 17:41.43 | DaemonDEB | so I installed it on my Windows 98 system to try it out |
| 17:41.58 | DaemonDEB | B-) |
| 17:41.59 | jelly-home | xoz: I'd like an example. |
| 17:42.06 | infinity0 | oh stop arguing and help me lol |
| 17:42.16 | xoz | jelly-home: what is your point? man stty? |
| 17:42.42 | valdyn | infinity0: how slow? console being slower than xterm isnt unusual, and its unrelated to baud rates |
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| 17:43.12 | infinity0 | valdyn: if i do ls -la then it takes a second to fill the screen |
| 17:43.17 | jelly-home | xoz: I've never seen stty settings have effect on speed/refresh in Linux console, and would like a reference. |
| 17:43.22 | infinity0 | whereas on xterm it's pretty much instantaneous |
| 17:43.31 | xoz | jelly-home: ok. |
| 17:43.32 | jelly-home | xoz: it's news to me. |
| 17:43.55 | valdyn | infinity0: ok, that cant be the baud rate anyway, 38400 baud is much faster than that |
| 17:44.01 | xoz | jelly-home: you could have told me that instead of trying to catch me if my assumption is a mistake. |
| 17:44.06 | infinity0 | jelly-home: look, he tried to help, it didn't work, big deal, just drop it |
| 17:44.08 | XLV | infinity0, yeah, thats the framebuffer used on console |
| 17:44.13 | xoz | jelly-home: im always stand to be corrected. |
| 17:44.20 | infinity0 | valdyn: right ok |
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| 17:44.26 | XLV | infinity0, changing baudrate wont help |
| 17:44.30 | infinity0 | kk |
| 17:44.32 | valdyn | infinity0: so it can be your slow framebuffer |
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| 17:44.43 | infinity0 | i'm just using the default in a 2.6.26 kernel |
| 17:44.45 | valdyn | infinity0: thats also normal if you use vesafb |
| 17:44.51 | infinity0 | oh right |
| 17:44.54 | infinity0 | any way to speed it up? |
| 17:45.09 | xoz | infinity0: accelerated fb if there is. |
| 17:45.15 | valdyn | infinity0: run an x terminal in fullscreen mode |
| 17:45.19 | infinity0 | lol |
| 17:45.34 | infinity0 | but this is retarded, console should take less resources than X surely |
| 17:45.45 | valdyn | infinity0: no |
| 17:45.48 | jelly-home | infinity0: why do you think so? |
| 17:45.56 | valdyn | infinity0: it does take less resources, but its also slow |
| 17:46.01 | jelly-home | infinity0: X is accelerated. fb often isn't |
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| 17:46.16 | infinity0 | X is a whole client-server blah blah with bells and whistels whereas console is i guess something the kernel does |
| 17:46.23 | valdyn | fb being fast is a myth |
| 17:46.26 | infinity0 | jelly-home: what do you mean by "accelerated"? |
| 17:46.41 | valdyn | no one would implement something like X acceleration for console framebuffers |
| 17:46.43 | xoz | notes that it is through his questioning that the problem of infinity0 came thru light... anyway, we make false assumptions... it is always ok to be corrected as long as the intention is to help... |
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| 17:47.14 | infinity0 | ok i will go google accelerated fb |
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| 17:47.21 | infinity0 | hopefully it will turn up something ¬.¬ |
| 17:47.25 | jdavis_ | How do I set up ssh-agent so that it asks to unlock my ssh key with a graphical agent, and then doesn't ask again? Right now it always asks from the terminal, every time I connect. |
| 17:47.28 | jelly-home | infinity0: I mean there're decent drivers to manage displaying fonts, scrolling and similar. |
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| 17:47.43 | infinity0 | oh right |
| 17:47.51 | xoz | jdavis_: ssh-askpass |
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| 17:47.56 | XLV | infinity0, there are some accelerated fbs for specific chips |
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| 17:48.01 | infinity0 | and the fb module is just a piece of shit code someone did without thinking? |
| 17:48.03 | XLV | eg sisfb, nvidiafb etc |
| 17:48.12 | valdyn | infinity0: fb is not meant to replace X |
| 17:48.23 | valdyn | infinity0: implementing proper hardware acceleration is a huge amount of work |
| 17:48.28 | infinity0 | oh, ok |
| 17:48.36 | xoz | jdavis_: and install keychain |
| 17:48.38 | infinity0 | well, i thought it'd be nice to have a fast console for system maintenance tasks |
| 17:48.39 | jelly-home | infinity0: vesafb with default settings is unaccelerated, yes. |
| 17:48.44 | infinity0 | ah ok |
| 17:49.31 | jelly-home | infinity0: use it only if you have to |
| 17:49.33 | jdavis_ | xoz: I installed ssh-askpass, and all it seems to do is print the password back to me. |
| 17:49.43 | gartt | This is OT to Debian, but would anyone know of an easy way to save gmail inbox to disk? |
| 17:50.00 | jdavis_ | xoz: and I already have keychain installed |
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| 17:50.03 | xoz | jdavis_: ssh-add < /dev/null |
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| 17:50.14 | gartt | I want to be able to sit on an offline computer and read my old emails |
| 17:50.21 | zinx | gartt: imapsync |
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| 17:50.41 | xoz | jdavis_: you have to tell ssh-add that you are getting it from a null terminal so that ssh-askpass will be triggered |
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| 17:51.35 | jdavis_ | xoz: oh. And now it's saying it's refusing to add the key (see ssh-vulnkey), so I must have created it during the time when that bug existed. |
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| 17:51.44 | Jemt | Hi. Could someone with a laptop, a secondary monitor, and Lenny, test wheterh it is possible to switche between the two monitors using the usual keyboard combination Fn + F5/F7 ? It dosn't work for me on any of my 3 laptops |
| 17:51.48 | gartt | zinx: Thanks |
| 17:51.52 | Jemt | whether* |
| 17:52.55 | XLV | Jemt, fn combos usually dont work |
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| 17:53.18 | ringo999 | what is the best way of moving large files between clients in linux network? nfs, ftp, samba? I'm new to linux networks... |
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| 17:53.26 | jelly-home | Jemt: the key combos are highly dependant of laptop model and bios; you should be able to use xrandr to enable video outputs. |
| 17:53.27 | jdavis_ | xoz: so if I remake the key, and then "ssh-add" it, then it should ask me only once to unlock it in the keychain, right? |
| 17:53.43 | XLV | Jemt, i have tried with my laptop and a hdmi lcd tv, i could activate/deactivate monitors using nvidia-settings, but not the fn combos |
| 17:53.49 | nareshov | ringo999: add to that list - scp, rsync |
| 17:53.58 | xoz | jdavis_: try this script i made: http://pastebin.com/m6b05b662 |
| 17:54.11 | xoz | jdavis_: place it in your .bashrc |
| 17:54.35 | xoz | jdavis_: it will ask you once and then everytime you start a shell, it will reuse your key |
| 17:55.06 | xoz | jdavis_: assuming you have keychain installed already |
| 17:55.25 | jdavis_ | xoz: oh, perfect, thank you. |
| 17:55.39 | gartt | zinx: I'm reading the man page for it, and don't I need another email client to use it? It's used to import stuff from gmail so I could use it with an email client, right? Can I just save the stuff as a file? I'm not totally clear on it from what the help shows |
| 17:56.36 | zinx | gartt: ah, yeah it does need an email client, and an imap server |
| 17:56.50 | zinx | gartt: you can install them both.. if you don't want to, i think gmail has some offline mail feature now |
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| 17:57.55 | zinx | gartt: hit the labs settings and enable 'Offline' |
| 17:58.15 | zinx | gartt: no idea how it works exactly, though.. never used it |
| 17:58.26 | gartt | zinx: I'll check out that offline mode, thanks a lot |
| 17:58.32 | xoz | jdavis_: and you have ssh-copy-id your public key to your remote clients/server |
| 17:59.43 | ringo999 | nareshov: ok so: nfs, ftp, samba, scp, rsync. What is yall's preference? |
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| 18:01.46 | jdavis_ | xoz: yeah, I did that already. I have to make a new key though, because this one was made when the debian ssh had the bug. |
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| 18:02.27 | xoz | jdavis_: yeah. regenerate all of them... and copy to all your remote pcs... as soon as possible, |
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| 18:03.57 | dustpylex2 | how can i get the java jre installed on amd64 debian? I've read some stuff about java-package and whatnot but jpkg errors when I try it |
| 18:04.03 | m0dular | you tell me |
| 18:05.33 | xoz | jdavis_: by the way, the script i gave you assumes you are using rsa... if you use dsa, try to change the occurrence of rsa to sa |
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| 18:05.48 | xoz | jdavis_: rsa to dsa |
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| 18:06.09 | valdyn | dustpylex2: apt-cache search sun-java |
| 18:06.20 | jdavis_ | xoz: thanks, I'm using rsa. |
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| 18:06.48 | bilbo82 | hi, I just built a kernel from kernel.org and I can't get it to boot. I keep getting udevd[437]: the kernel doesn't support inotify udev can't monitor rules file changes |
| 18:06.54 | bilbo82 | so the kernel wont boot |
| 18:07.02 | bilbo82 | what causes this? |
| 18:07.07 | valdyn | !custom kernel |
| 18:07.08 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
| 18:07.37 | nootoyahora | I'm having trouble with my network, my machines can't pig to each other, someone knows what's going wrong? http://pastebin.com/m184c342 |
| 18:07.53 | dustpylex2 | valdyn, all that brings up is openoffice.org |
| 18:08.55 | abrotman | dustpylex2: apt-cache search icedtea |
| 18:09.24 | jnewt | why would /etc/init.d/dnsmasq stop require creation of a listening socket. it is giving me the error that the Address is already in use |
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| 18:10.51 | valdyn | dustpylex2: because sun-java is in non-free |
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| 18:11.11 | nathanlee | hello? |
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| 18:11.26 | valdyn | dustpylex2: so add non-free or use openjdk |
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| 18:11.38 | nathanlee | anyone here that can help me with a permissions problem editing the apt/sources.list? I use kde |
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| 18:11.52 | Zasca | what permissions problem? |
| 18:12.31 | nathanlee | in konquerer I can open the apt/source.list (kedit, kwrite), but I can't save it because I don't have permission |
| 18:12.40 | nathanlee | and I can't seem to open it at all via command line |
| 18:12.43 | xoz | nathanlee: you have to be root to edit it |
| 18:12.57 | nathanlee | how to I open via root? |
| 18:12.58 | dvs | nathanlee: get to know sudo |
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| 18:13.02 | Zasca | you can use sudo to open kwrite |
| 18:13.04 | kenboo | what's the best way to check if a process with PID exists? ps -e |grep $PID looks a little ugly |
| 18:13.07 | valdyn | !wikifaq nathanlee Permissions |
| 18:13.07 | dpkg | nathanlee: check out http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://wiki.debian.org/ |
| 18:13.09 | nathanlee | and sudo doesn't like my user for some reason |
| 18:13.43 | Zasca | lulz |
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| 18:14.02 | guzu | what sudo? |
| 18:14.09 | nathanlee | lets see... su... then kedit via the command line says " kedit: cannot connect to X server :0.0" |
| 18:14.29 | xoz | nathanlee: use sudo. |
| 18:14.44 | themill | don't use a graphical editor |
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| 18:14.49 | valdyn | nathanlee: configure sudo to let your user run it, or use sux instead of su |
| 18:15.02 | nathanlee | "nathan is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." |
| 18:15.05 | nathanlee | sux? |
| 18:15.11 | xoz | !install sudo |
| 18:15.11 | dpkg | it has been said that install sudo is aptitude install sudo then as root edit /etc/sudoers or use 'visudo' -- alternatively add yourself to the wheel group, and relogin. |
| 18:15.11 | valdyn | !sux |
| 18:15.12 | dpkg | sux is a utility for running X apps as a different user. "aptitude install sux" and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <root x> for other alternatives. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>. |
| 18:15.14 | guzu | definitely |
| 18:15.15 | nathanlee | and editing sudo? can't say I know how to use either |
| 18:15.20 | dustpylex2 | abrotman, I don't need the jdk. Just the jre. Will icedtea provide the runtime environmetn? |
| 18:16.00 | valdyn | dustpylex2: icedtea is a webbrowser plugin, not a jre |
| 18:16.17 | dvs | dustpylex2: just install the sun one. |
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| 18:16.34 | dvs | sun6-java-jre |
| 18:16.35 | nathanlee | hmmm... installing sudo now |
| 18:16.51 | valdyn | dustpylex2: if a webbrowser plugin is what you wanted, just instead that icedtea |
| 18:16.56 | nathanlee | and it says it didn't hav eto do anything... |
| 18:17.16 | valdyn | nathanlee: why are you trying to install sudo when sudo was obviously already installed? |
| 18:17.24 | nareshov | ringo999: i use scp |
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| 18:17.33 | nathanlee | because someone just told me too, I have not idea why things aren't working |
| 18:17.35 | dvs | nathanlee: then edit your sudoers file as rot |
| 18:17.41 | dvs | root |
| 18:17.49 | valdyn | that also shouldnt work |
| 18:17.50 | valdyn | visuo |
| 18:17.57 | valdyn | *visudo* |
| 18:18.02 | dvs | valdyn: works for me! ;-) |
| 18:18.18 | valdyn | nathanlee: install sux and use sux or run visudo to configure sudo |
| 18:18.18 | dvs | su -c visudo |
| 18:18.39 | nathanlee | what is special about sux? |
| 18:18.48 | valdyn | dvs: thats not exactly "edit sudoers file as root" |
| 18:18.56 | valdyn | nathanlee: it does what you want. |
| 18:19.09 | nathanlee | lol, sounds wonderful, I like it when things do what I want |
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| 18:20.09 | cantoma | hi there, using dselect I select several packages for installation. Now I realise that i don't need those packages. How can i revert the selection? |
| 18:20.25 | dvs | dselect ?!? |
| 18:20.29 | dvs | shudders |
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| 18:21.08 | jelly-home | cantoma: _ or - |
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| 18:21.26 | xoz | cantoma: R for revert |
| 18:21.28 | cantoma | dvs: well lets be practical .. the dselect menu lets me to unselect what is already selected for installation? |
| 18:21.42 | MuffoN | Hello, I've got a problem with the Debian net installation, it cannot find drivers for my SATA disc, I've tried just about every BIOS setting there is, the harddrive is a quickremoveable hitachi deskstar and the motherboard is some kind of AMD motherboard (I do not have the full specifications available) |
| 18:21.52 | jelly-home | cantoma: if you like dselect, you might love aptitude's user interface! :-> |
| 18:21.57 | dvs | cantoma: so does aptitude |
| 18:22.05 | valdyn | MuffoN: harddisk specs are irrelevant |
| 18:22.16 | valdyn | MuffoN: if possible set sata controller to ahci mode in bios |
| 18:22.26 | MuffoN | It's already set to AHCI |
| 18:22.32 | MuffoN | and I've tried RAID AHCI as well |
| 18:22.38 | nathanlee | bah |
| 18:22.39 | valdyn | MuffoN: just ahci |
| 18:22.41 | jelly-home | MuffoN: installing 5.0? |
| 18:22.49 | MuffoN | Yes, the net installer for 5.0 |
| 18:22.54 | cantoma | jelly-home: dvs: i agree there could be other programs for doing this job. Right now my concern is dselect |
| 18:23.01 | MuffoN | valdyn: As I said, that's the first thing I tested |
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| 18:23.26 | cantoma | xoz: is revert any known application? |
| 18:23.26 | valdyn | MuffoN: ahci works. Its possible that you have more than 1 sata controller on your mainboard. |
| 18:23.27 | xoz | cantoma: type ? and k for keyboard shortcut... you have most info there |
| 18:23.45 | MuffoN | valdyn: It does only have one SATA controller as far as I know |
| 18:23.46 | xoz | cantoma: type capital R to revert from previous list. |
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| 18:24.03 | cantoma | xoz: i get it now |
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| 18:24.32 | xoz | cantoma: and X for undo all changes |
| 18:24.36 | MuffoN | But if it indeed do have more than one SATA controller, what would be the fix? |
| 18:25.01 | MuffoN | I've tried native and legacy SATA mode if anyone wonders. |
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| 18:25.21 | xoz | prefers dselect power also... |
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| 18:25.33 | cantoma | xoz: but if I go out of dselect does that still works |
| 18:25.49 | xoz | cantoma: what do you mean? |
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| 18:26.12 | xoz | cantoma: if you want to cancel all changes, X or esc |
| 18:26.17 | cantoma | xoz: because i already went out and now pressing R or X in the select menu stil makes the 200 MB of installation files appearing when i click in Install |
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| 18:26.58 | valdyn | MuffoN: if you had 2 sata controlllers you could switch the disk to be connected to the ahci controller |
| 18:27.14 | cantoma | xoz: if I select Install I don't want him to download all that packages and to install them |
| 18:27.26 | xoz | cantoma: then, you have not resolved all the deps... even if you have not pressed anything, from the beginning, you have unresolved deps or you have chosen some packages before which dselect still remembers. |
| 18:27.57 | cantoma | xoz: yes i select one packages and deselect selected an army of other ones |
| 18:28.01 | xoz | cantoma: you have to hunt those packages you want uninstalled and disable them. |
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| 18:28.14 | cantoma | xoz: one by one :( |
| 18:28.21 | xoz | cantoma: those are dependencies you need to avoid broken packages. |
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| 18:29.04 | xoz | cantoma: yep but not one-by-one. you can follow dselect suggestions but you have to finish all of them to avoid installing those you don't want |
| 18:29.10 | cantoma | xoz: i just want him to unselect everything that is selected to be installed |
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| 18:30.01 | mih | how do i rsync with --delete from/to my laptop so i can still copy things to my rsync dir on the server and have it onto my laptop without it getting deleted from the server when the laptop runs rsync -avuz localhost server/dir --delete ? |
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| 18:31.13 | xoz | cantoma: then hunt them :) and unselect |
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| 18:31.45 | xoz | cantoma: did you dist-upgrade recently? |
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| 18:34.48 | mih | if i do rsync localhost remotehost --delete-after every hour and then fetch from server i.e. every /22 minutes (uneven minutes) would that make it work? |
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| 18:35.14 | mih | so i can touch and delete files in both ends |
| 18:35.39 | flokuehn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.48 | mih | 23 minutes even :) |
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| 18:39.06 | Sisk | If I set all my wireless settings in /etc/network/interfaces, it all works fine but only for my own network. If I take it out of there like the man for wicd says to do, neither wicd nor iwlist scan can find any network...Not mine, not the neighbors, not the libraries. What would cause that? |
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| 18:39.30 | pluesch0r | evening everybody. offtopic question, dunno where else to ask .. |
| 18:39.37 | dvs | 42 |
| 18:39.46 | pluesch0r | has anybody in here ever got his laptop searched when going to the US? |
| 18:40.27 | nkuttler | pluesch0r: why do you ask? just don't put any sensitive data on it. |
| 18:40.48 | icebrain | how are the "build-dep" deps chosen, are they hand-picked by the package maintainer or are they auto generated? |
| 18:40.48 | pluesch0r | nkuttler: of course. |
| 18:40.56 | Sisk | Never left the US, but from what I understand it's pretty much a given that customs is going to search it if you bring it acrosb borders. |
| 18:41.02 | xoz | pluesch0r: they are more interested on whether your laptop behaves like a laptop than a bomb |
| 18:41.07 | pluesch0r | nkuttler: i've heard about ppl that simply got their laptops taken away from them. and that would suck. |
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| 18:41.57 | pluesch0r | so .. i'd like to hear from somebody who actually got his/her laptop searched. |
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| 18:42.17 | cantoma | xoz: no |
| 18:42.20 | Sisk | pluesch0r: Yeah, there was a big uproar about that kind of thing about a year and a half ago. It was supposed to be near the top of Obama's 'fix Bush screwups' list. |
| 18:42.41 | cantoma | xoz: i manage to unselect them by hunting now |
| 18:42.57 | cantoma | xoz: its a pain |
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| 18:43.12 | pluesch0r | Sisk: i know .. the question is .. what's the current state? |
| 18:43.13 | XLV | pluesch0r, what they can do is make you power on the laptop in the airport, to make sure its not some bomb or something.. having them searching the data on the laptop out of the blue i've never heard of before |
| 18:43.14 | xoz | cantoma: cool. it is quiet a good experience to hunt them for you will know how deps operate :) |
| 18:43.31 | Rienzilla | pluesch0r: my laptop was not searched during entering and leaving the usa |
| 18:43.35 | xoz | cantoma: yep, it is painful but once you clean it, next time will be ok. |
| 18:43.36 | pluesch0r | XLV: i've read about ppl that got searched. |
| 18:43.39 | Rienzilla | it was just put through the x-ray |
| 18:43.49 | pluesch0r | Rienzilla: netherlans, eh? |
| 18:43.51 | Sisk | pluesch0r: That I can't tell you. I've been too busy the last couple months to pay attention to how much he's actually accomplished. |
| 18:43.55 | Rienzilla | yes |
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| 18:44.02 | pluesch0r | Sisk: okay. |
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| 18:44.07 | xoz | pluesch0r: usually, it will just be xrayed and they make sure it works as a laptop. |
| 18:44.17 | XLV | Rienzilla, laptop put through xray doesnt bork the hdd's data though? |
| 18:44.23 | Rienzilla | xoz: I've heard stories too where the content is searched |
| 18:44.29 | Rienzilla | they warn for it before departure |
| 18:44.29 | pluesch0r | XLV: no, it doesn't. |
| 18:44.37 | nkuttler | XLV: magnets do |
| 18:44.39 | pluesch0r | they've x-rayed mine a couple of times. |
| 18:44.45 | Rienzilla | so make sure to remove your gpg keys and kiddiepr0n :) |
| 18:45.14 | pluesch0r | duh. |
| 18:45.15 | xoz | Rienzilla: depends maybe on your purpose... i went there for conference... but yeah, maybe they do random checks. |
| 18:45.18 | Rienzilla | and ssh private keys, that sort of stuff |
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| 18:45.33 | Rienzilla | xoz: it's certainly not standard procedure to search the content |
| 18:45.43 | Rienzilla | (that would be close to impossible :)) |
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| 18:45.58 | xoz | Rienzilla: yep. unless you are an idiot :) |
| 18:45.59 | nkuttler | or something like truecrypt |
| 18:46.02 | pluesch0r | Rienzilla: the problem is .. if i remove my private keys (they are passphrase-protected, nevertheless), i'll need to fetch them afterwards. |
| 18:46.18 | pluesch0r | nkuttler: apparently, they make you tell them the passphrase or simply keep your hardware. |
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| 18:46.49 | nkuttler | pluesch0r: why are you so paranoid anyway? |
| 18:47.04 | abrotman | !ot |
| 18:47.05 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 18:47.07 | simonrvn | i'm surprised you put up with an invasion of privacy like that.... |
| 18:47.10 | nkuttler | pluesch0r: look into port knocking or something like that |
| 18:47.13 | pluesch0r | 'cause i don't want some stranger to read my personal data. |
| 18:47.18 | pluesch0r | abrotman: i kknow. thanks. |
| 18:47.20 | pluesch0r | sorry. |
| 18:47.35 | Sisk | pluesch0r: The rule of thumb is to put any data you're worried about somewhere that you can download it once you get where you're going. That way even if you get a customs agent who decides to keep your laptop they don't have any data you wouldn't want them to have. |
| 18:47.58 | nkuttler | abrotman: actually, he's looking for some technical solution to a problem. i assume he runs debian |
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| 18:48.31 | abrotman | nkuttler: solution is easy .. don't bring the laptop :) |
| 18:48.34 | xoz | internet traffic should be the ones to be policed... laptop at airports should be searched for bomb, not information |
| 18:48.40 | hoxu | isn't it also easier to just mail the laptop beforehand? |
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| 18:50.00 | jnewt | anyone using dnsmasq in here for dhcp? i cannot get it to hand out ip's, and don't know why? |
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| 18:51.00 | xoz | they should search external harddisk if that is the case then. digital cameras, usbdisk, CFs, etc... |
| 18:51.17 | abrotman | write them a letter and point that out |
| 18:51.25 | xoz | haha |
| 18:52.14 | pluesch0r | allright .. thanks guys. :) |
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| 18:52.18 | xoz | jnewt: explain more |
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| 18:53.06 | xoz | thinks pluesch0r will use a tiny-winny usbdisk that looks like a keyholder for his sensitive data :) |
| 18:53.36 | pluesch0r | xoz: i thought about storing it all away in a dav SSL share. |
| 18:53.44 | pluesch0r | inside an encrypted disk image. |
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| 18:54.10 | xoz | and the laptop is just a diversion. |
| 18:54.17 | xoz | goes to sleep |
| 18:54.21 | Sisk | Remember the US government uses Windows. Format your flash drive to ext2 and act mad that it's gotten 'corrupted' when they try to read it. |
| 18:54.57 | pluesch0r | hm. |
| 18:55.07 | dvs | Sisk: I'd be more worried about using Windows as a security risk. ;-) |
| 18:55.24 | nkuttler | pluesch0r: if you whois shows your real name you're toast anyway :) |
| 18:55.33 | pluesch0r | nkuttler: doesn't matter. :) |
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| 18:56.01 | hoxu | pluesch0r, because it's your boss' real name that's on the no flight list now? |
| 18:56.01 | Sisk | dvs: So I keep trying to tell my boss :-/ The government will always use Windows here. They get too much money from Microsoft not to. |
| 18:56.57 | dvs | Sisk: Hmmmm... trust an American or trust a Finn? |
| 18:56.59 | pluesch0r | hoxu: my primary concern is having to buy a new laptop when i'm inside the US. |
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| 18:57.04 | pluesch0r | i.e. not being able to work. |
| 18:57.21 | pluesch0r | anyways. as abrotman said .. this is off-topic. |
| 18:57.26 | hoxu | pluesch0r, mail one to the office there beforehand, then just sync the data? |
| 18:57.41 | abrotman | pluesch0r: which OS does it run? |
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| 18:57.54 | pluesch0r | linux and osx. |
| 18:58.02 | abrotman | linux? |
| 18:58.08 | hoxu | abrotman, ubuntu ! |
| 18:58.52 | dvs | !lart hoxu |
| 18:58.52 | dpkg | calls hoxu on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 18:59.41 | Sisk | dvs: Depends. They're both people, as long as the American isn't part of the government, which I'm not, which means they may or may not be trustworthy. Besides, we've had to learn to protect our privacy in the last few years since the government doesn't believe in the concept anymore. |
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| 19:03.02 | Sisk | Gotta go...emergency....there's a toddler who needs to be enterained. |
| 19:03.17 | dvs | Sisk: Oh dear! |
| 19:03.21 | hoxu | !public away |
| 19:03.21 | dpkg | We don't care if you're 'afk' or 'having coffee' or 'doing my wife'. If we want to know, we'll /msg or /wii you. |
| 19:03.38 | dvs | wii? |
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| 19:03.50 | hoxu | aka. /whois $0 $0 |
| 19:03.57 | dvs | Nintendo hasn't sued yet/\ |
| 19:03.58 | hoxu | usually reports the idle time if the client |
| 19:04.04 | hoxu | s/if/of/ |
| 19:04.06 | hoxu | !flw |
| 19:04.06 | dpkg | flw28 is probably <graytron> markit: i don't make mistakes |
| 19:04.34 | dvs | dpkg depends linux-image-2.6-686 stable |
| 19:04.37 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6-686: depends on linux-image-2.6.18-6-686 |
| 19:04.47 | dvs | a bit old isn't it? |
| 19:05.33 | abrotman | dpkg: info linux-image-2.6-686 stable |
| 19:05.36 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6-686: (Linux kernel 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.18+6etch3 (etch), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
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| 19:05.41 | abrotman | hrm ... |
| 19:05.59 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 19:05.59 | judd | abrotman: linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.6.26+17 sid: 2.6.26+17 squeeze: 2.6.26+17 |
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| 19:10.50 | jvm | hi. how can i upgrade pidgin to a newer release than in lenny stable, but nothing else? |
| 19:11.11 | jerng | oh, i want to know that, too |
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| 19:11.22 | dvs | jvm: backports? |
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| 19:11.30 | dvs | !info pidgin |
| 19:11.31 | abrotman | jvm: what's wrong with the one in lenny? |
| 19:11.36 | abrotman | judd: versions pidgin |
| 19:11.36 | judd | abrotman: pidgin -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.4.3-4 squeeze: 2.5.4-2 sid: 2.5.5-1 |
| 19:11.54 | jvm | the one in lenny has a broken icq support, since they changed their server config recently. |
| 19:12.08 | dpkg | pidgin: (graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X), section net, is optional. Version: 2.5.5-1 (sid), Packaged size: 685 kB, Installed size: 1916 kB |
| 19:12.17 | jvm | pidgin.com says to upgrade to 2.5.5 |
| 19:12.18 | abrotman | jvm: i think they're all broken except the latest source from pidgin.im ? |
| 19:12.47 | abrotman | jvm: you'd have to backport it .. or stop using icq :) |
| 19:12.48 | jvm | abrotman, no idea whether there is a package for 2.5.5 somewhere. |
| 19:12.51 | HeXiLeD | whats the is the wall package that allows to create |
| 19:12.58 | HeXiLeD | to send console msg to user |
| 19:13.00 | HeXiLeD | s |
| 19:13.11 | dvs | jvm: look at judd's last message |
| 19:13.16 | abrotman | jvm: there is in unstable |
| 19:13.22 | hoxu | HeXiLeD, bsdutils |
| 19:13.24 | abrotman | HeXiLeD: wall ? write ? |
| 19:13.37 | jvm | abrotman, so i add unstable sources, install pidgin, and remove unstable sources? |
| 19:14.18 | jvm | and live without security updates for pidgin. |
| 19:14.58 | abrotman | jvm: not even close |
| 19:15.14 | abrotman | !tell jvm about ssb |
| 19:15.31 | abrotman | or quit using icq and get all your friends on XMPP :) |
| 19:16.11 | jvm | abrotman, that's hard with most of my friends, who dont care about that... |
| 19:16.19 | jvm | only a few jabber friends... |
| 19:16.29 | jerng | it seems that there's a package with version 2.5.5 of pidgin at www.getdeb.net |
| 19:16.43 | abrotman | jvm: just tell them all to use gtalk .. they'll never know :) |
| 19:17.10 | jvm | why should they? they love all the annoying features. |
| 19:17.18 | abrotman | jerng: those packages aren't for debian |
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| 19:18.41 | abrotman | jerng: AFAICT .. none of those packages are for debian, please don't recommend them to anyone here |
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| 19:19.54 | jerng | abrotman: ok, didn't see that... |
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| 19:22.45 | fignew | is there a way to see how much of a process' memory is in swap? |
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| 19:22.55 | dvs | free? |
| 19:23.02 | dvs | oh. one process? |
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| 19:23.12 | fignew | dvs: yea, an individual process |
| 19:23.37 | valdyn | fignew: not really |
| 19:23.39 | n2c_ | hmm, there is no boot.img.gz (installer image) available for ia64? |
| 19:23.50 | valdyn | fignew: unless you use a debugging tool |
| 19:23.52 | abrotman | n2c_: do you actually have itanium hardware ? |
| 19:24.08 | n2c_ | abrotman, Atom330 |
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| 19:24.11 | dvs | looks in his closet |
| 19:24.16 | n2c_ | should I use amd64 then? |
| 19:24.17 | abrotman | n2c_: that's not even close to ia64 |
| 19:24.21 | fignew | ok valdyn, thanks :) |
| 19:24.29 | n2c_ | abrotman, but 64bit afaik? |
| 19:24.31 | abrotman | i'm not even sure atom is amd64 .. |
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| 19:24.50 | aiuw | Hmm, I get this error when trying to use mplayer: |
| 19:24.52 | aiuw | [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
| 19:24.56 | valdyn | fignew: or if you know that a process doesnt use the mmap system call then its probably easy too, using top |
| 19:25.00 | valdyn | fignew: but do you ever? |
| 19:25.04 | n2c_ | abrotman, it is 64biz |
| 19:25.06 | aiuw | It means that it doesn't see the speakers, right? |
| 19:25.14 | abrotman | n2c_: okay .. then i guess yes, amd64 |
| 19:25.21 | jerng | fignew: you can use 'top' |
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| 19:25.35 | valdyn | top does not tell what he wants |
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| 19:25.45 | jerng | fignew: sorry, valdyn said it, too |
| 19:26.41 | n2c_ | abrotman, thx |
| 19:27.19 | valdyn | aiuw: use mplayer -ao alsa |
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| 19:28.06 | jelly-home | abrotman: my atom isn't 64bit capable, but then it's older |
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| 19:28.22 | abrotman | jelly-home: so says wikipedia .. seems it's both x86 and x86_64 |
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| 19:31.01 | vanRossum | !mount |
| 19:31.01 | dpkg | mount is probably a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 19:31.21 | burak | !apt-get |
| 19:31.21 | dpkg | hmm... apt-get is "apt-get install synaptic" for gui "apt-get install aptitude" for curses or just use apt-get command line. apt-get is a program part of the apt package used as a simple command line tool to libapt. apt-get is the most used front-end for apt. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ see also <apt> <apt-cache> <synaptic> <aptitude>, or unsoftware |
| 19:31.46 | n2c_ | abrotman, what would you recommend? amd64 or i386?? |
| 19:32.02 | abrotman | that's up to you |
| 19:32.07 | vanRossum | !how to mound |
| 19:32.12 | vanRossum | !how to mount |
| 19:32.18 | abrotman | !bot abuse |
| 19:32.18 | dpkg | Leave me alone.. I feel abused and molested. |
| 19:32.20 | vanRossum | !mount disk |
| 19:32.22 | valdyn | n2c_: 1G ram or less -> i386 |
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| 19:32.30 | vanRossum | !mounting a disk |
| 19:32.30 | burak | !initrd |
| 19:32.30 | dpkg | hmm... initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230, or make-kpkg --initrd |
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| 19:32.35 | abrotman | vanRossum: msg the freaking bot already |
| 19:32.49 | hoxu | vanRossum, /msg dpkg msg the bot |
| 19:33.02 | vanRossum | just testing the system sorry |
| 19:33.13 | jelly-home | !test |
| 19:33.13 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 19:33.15 | n2c_ | valdyn, 2GB, dual core (4x with hyper thread) |
| 19:33.26 | burak | acemi: amazing! |
| 19:33.57 | vanRossum | how can i get this bot's source code |
| 19:34.09 | valdyn | n2c_: probably still i386 then, depends on your workload |
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| 19:34.30 | valdyn | n2c_: if you get might get tight with ram ->i386 |
| 19:34.35 | abrotman | vanRossum: it's an infobot ... ask google where to get it |
| 19:34.58 | vanRossum | abrotman: thanx |
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| 19:35.10 | n2c_ | so no real reason to try 64bit? I code a lot in C but nothing pro or critical,no games.. |
| 19:35.32 | valdyn | n2c_: amd64 is faster, but only as long as you do not get tight with ram |
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| 19:35.38 | burak | !ptrace |
| 19:35.38 | dpkg | i heard ptrace is check this out: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=185375 or 'echo SaveMeJebus > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe'. DSA 311-1 announced, fix for i386 |
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| 19:36.09 | n2c_ | valdyn, fast is good will try I guess.. |
| 19:36.27 | jelly-home | vanRossum: if you want the bot's database, /msg dpkg my factoids |
| 19:36.31 | valdyn | n2c_: and swapping is orders of magnitudes slower while amd64 provides just like ~ 1x% speed |
| 19:36.57 | n2c_ | no swap here at all |
| 19:37.03 | n2c_ | fanless system, SSD drive |
| 19:37.10 | n2c_ | 2 GB ram |
| 19:37.13 | n2c_ | limit already |
| 19:37.29 | n2c_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.34 | vanRossum | jelly-home: thanx man! i was just looking for that! |
| 19:37.42 | vanRossum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.16 | jelly-home | without the leading space |
| 19:38.30 | vanRossum | =) i've noticed |
| 19:38.38 | valdyn | n2c_: i think ssd is a point for amd64 too |
| 19:38.44 | valdyn | n2c_: because access times are goog |
| 19:38.46 | valdyn | n2c_: because access times are good |
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| 19:39.04 | valdyn | n2c_: and that makes caching less valuable |
| 19:39.10 | n2c_ | valdyn, ok then |
| 19:39.18 | n2c_ | Id like this to bemodern anyway:) |
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| 19:45.35 | sparr | what is the status of kde 3.x on debian? |
| 19:45.43 | mgv | Hello! I'm having some weird clock problems... since last week the clock starts to go *really* slow, and therefore all the programs that rely on it or use any kind of timeouts. I wonder if there's some power management thingy behind the scenes. Any ideas? |
| 19:46.14 | abrotman | sparr: it's in lenny .. what else do you want to know? |
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| 19:46.59 | n2c_ | valdyn, abrotman thanks guys |
| 19:47.03 | sparr | abrotman: is it being maintained with pre-4.x attentiveness? does it have to be kept back to avoid 4.x? |
| 19:47.14 | abrotman | sparr: not in lenny |
| 19:47.30 | abrotman | sparr: maybe you'd rather ask #debian-kde about kde4 plans |
| 19:47.49 | sparr | I am considering moving away from my current non-debian distro of choice due to kde 4.x problems, back to debian would be my first choice if the kde landscape is accomodating |
| 19:47.54 | sparr | ok, will do |
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| 19:54.41 | surfdue | hello! |
| 19:55.13 | nareshov | hi |
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| 19:55.24 | surfdue | i am going to be using debian 4 on my dedicated server its 2xAMD Opteron 265 i have a choice for 32 bit or 64 bit |
| 19:55.33 | surfdue | i am currently using 2gb ram, but could go to 4. |
| 19:55.39 | surfdue | do you suggest i use 64 bit or 32 bit? |
| 19:56.14 | nareshov | 32bit |
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| 19:56.28 | surfdue | nareshov: if we go to 4gb we would have to clear and switch right? |
| 19:56.54 | nareshov | you can run a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit installation if you want |
| 19:57.26 | surfdue | nareshov: do you think it would be easier to use 64 bit off the beat |
| 19:57.26 | abrotman | surfdue: 64bit probably |
| 19:57.26 | maligor | 64bit userland has some advantages |
| 19:57.48 | maligor | like certain optimization flags that are enabled by default for x86_64 |
| 19:58.04 | nareshov | surfdue: just my experience, though, depending on your server's usage you'll have to see for yourself |
| 19:58.13 | nareshov | run benchmark suites maybe? |
| 19:58.19 | surfdue | nareshov: its going to be a filesharing site |
| 19:58.51 | abrotman | surfdue: unless you're going to use some closed source/third party stuff .. oyu're probably better off with 64bit |
| 19:59.33 | surfdue | abrotman: awsome, i dont think so the control panel is going to be openpanel |
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| 20:00.37 | surfdue | <3 thx guys |
| 20:00.54 | abrotman | surfdue: btw .. they should also use 5.0.0 |
| 20:01.16 | RiotingPacifist` | is there a way to check that an iso will make a valid cd? |
| 20:01.40 | JBstrikesagain | RiotingPacifist`, you could mount it using loopback and see if the data looks right |
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| 20:01.47 | maligor | or using fuse |
| 20:01.57 | JBstrikesagain | riot, also usually when you find an ISO there is an md5sum right next to it |
| 20:02.03 | JBstrikesagain | you can compare that to what your file has |
| 20:02.05 | schutzhund | most CD burners will verify the iso for you |
| 20:02.19 | schutzhund | at least k3b does |
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| 20:02.51 | surfdue | abrotman: tell serverbeach to upgrade |
| 20:02.55 | surfdue | and peer1 |
| 20:02.55 | surfdue | :] |
| 20:03.05 | abrotman | surfdue: they'll have to in a year |
| 20:03.19 | RiotingPacifist` | it mounts fine on loopback and files seam ok, is theres a fsck.iso to be sure? |
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| 20:03.34 | surfdue | :] |
| 20:03.38 | JBstrikesagain | RiotingPacifist`, do you have a reason to suspect it's bad? |
| 20:03.40 | RiotingPacifist` | im trying to burn a slax image, k3b burns it but always fails to verify it at track6 |
| 20:03.51 | JBstrikesagain | track 6? |
| 20:04.11 | JBstrikesagain | RiotingPacifist`, what iso is this exactly.. i bet we can find an m5sum |
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| 20:04.26 | JBstrikesagain | and then you can compare that to the output of 'md5sum <file.iso>' |
| 20:05.00 | RiotingPacifist` | its slax with a few modules added |
| 20:05.00 | JerJer | I am in the process of installing openvpn. I selected yes to install the tun driver, when I should have selected no. How can I force a reconfiguration so i can choose the proper answer? |
| 20:05.21 | JerJer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.47 | JBstrikesagain | RiotingPacifist`, you modified the iso? is slax a customizable live cd? |
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| 20:06.37 | RiotingPacifist` | JBstrikesagain: yeah you select modules on the website and then it gives you a custom iso, so theres no md5sum afaik |
| 20:06.42 | abrotman | JerJer: dpkg --configure -a |
| 20:06.51 | abrotman | JerJer: when it's done .. dpkg-reconfigure openvpn |
| 20:06.55 | JBstrikesagain | RiotingPacifist`, ah i see. i'd suspect the website is broken |
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| 20:07.08 | JerJer | nope - tried that already |
| 20:07.12 | JBstrikesagain | what do you mean by it fails on track 6 RiotingPacifist` .. i never thought there was more than one track when burning an iso |
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| 20:07.34 | JerJer | i don't have permissions to create /dev/net/tun - so that is failing |
| 20:07.43 | JerJer | causing a non clean exit code from dpkg |
| 20:09.06 | JerJer | this is in a linux-vserver guest environment |
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| 20:09.23 | abrotman | JerJer: you could change the debconf database perhaps ? |
| 20:09.38 | abrotman | what if you dpkg-reconfigure openvpn without doing the --configure -a ? |
| 20:10.07 | RiotingPacifist` | i closed the dialog now, does k3b keep logs somewhere? it burns fine then i get errors at track 6 when k3b is verifying. mounting the disk (but not the iso also fails). ill try with another disc, as the iso is probably fine it mounts on loop right? |
| 20:10.51 | valdyn | RiotingPacifist`: mounting audio disks is not possible |
| 20:10.57 | JerJer | ohhhh - i can fix this on the host side |
| 20:11.06 | JerJer | abrotman: thank you for trying to help me |
| 20:11.11 | RiotingPacifist` | this is an iso |
| 20:11.22 | valdyn | RiotingPacifist`: with 6 tracks? |
| 20:11.32 | JBstrikesagain | valdyn, tha's exactly what i was confused about |
| 20:11.39 | valdyn | RiotingPacifist`: its not an iso |
| 20:11.46 | JBstrikesagain | Bstrikesagain> what do you mean by it fails on track 6 RiotingPacifist` .. i never thought there was more than one track when burning an iso |
| 20:12.09 | valdyn | RiotingPacifist`: an iso filesystem takes exactly one track |
| 20:12.51 | JerJer | and I have to install and run openvpn on the host - not the guest. Learn sumfin new every day |
| 20:13.51 | RiotingPacifist` | sorry ther error log calls them sectors (i might of mis rememberd what the dialog said) |
| 20:14.12 | valdyn | RiotingPacifist`: and k3b verify does not check the filesystem, it compares data: image vs dissk |
| 20:14.50 | valdyn | RiotingPacifist`: so a broken image would not produce an error |
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| 20:15.50 | maple | is there a way to see what packages i pull from backports only? |
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| 20:17.10 | abrotman | !which repo |
| 20:17.10 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory |
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| 20:22.31 | RiotingPacifist` | it was a bad disk sorry to be such an idiot. im confused now though because k3b said the disk was different, but diff -r on the mounted is and mounted cd says their the same :S |
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| 20:23.49 | axz | guys i have just installed RRD tools... how to views graphic stats? |
| 20:24.46 | RiotingPacifist` | neway thx for the help, bye |
| 20:25.15 | emma | !why |
| 20:25.15 | dpkg | Because! |
| 20:25.19 | emma | fine |
| 20:25.24 | axz | lol |
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| 20:26.44 | emma | !why aptitude > henux |
| 20:26.46 | wirry | so true |
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| 20:27.23 | emma | !why aptitude > Monk-e |
| 20:27.29 | jelly-home | emma: you want !tell henux about why aptitude |
| 20:27.38 | emma | oh okay |
| 20:27.42 | jelly-home | emma: or, better, do it in /msg |
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| 20:28.20 | jelly-home | emma: and you probably can't use it on people not present here |
| 20:28.48 | emma | Let's see |
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| 20:31.33 | emma | jelly-home: I use ubuntu generally but after I learned about why aptitude from dpkg I have always been using aptitude. I generally think whatever Debian experts think is probably smart. |
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| 20:33.03 | mXr | hmm. anyone know of an issue with dhcp3-server |
| 20:33.10 | mXr | keeps telling me Can't get interface flags for : No such device |
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| 20:33.29 | jelly-home | emma: it also might or might not apply to any other distro, so exercise care |
| 20:33.29 | mXr | i'm on testing, btw, so its dhcp3-server 3.1.1-6 |
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| 20:34.39 | johndoe | is it possible to shrink an EXT2 partition? |
| 20:34.56 | Chousuke | parted can do that I think. |
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| 20:35.55 | DaemonDEB | you can shrink Ext2 or Ext3, but not Ext4, JFS, or XFS |
| 20:36.02 | DaemonDEB | all of them can grow however B-) |
| 20:36.06 | nareshov | D: |
| 20:36.08 | johndoe | 8-) |
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| 20:36.38 | DaemonDEB | though why the hell you'd use JFS is beyond me |
| 20:36.43 | BCM43 | I'm installing debian on a dell and when i boot up i get this error: http://s5.tinypic.com/23k3g3m.jpg Can anybody help? |
| 20:36.46 | johndoe | haha |
| 20:36.51 | mXr | you can shrink xfs? |
| 20:36.57 | DaemonDEB | no |
| 20:36.58 | OpenTokix | mXr: no |
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| 20:37.06 | mXr | oh. misread. sorry :p |
| 20:37.08 | DaemonDEB | XFS can be grown with xfs_growfs |
| 20:37.13 | DaemonDEB | but not shrank |
| 20:37.19 | mXr | yeah, there is some stone old experimental patch around.. haven't tried.. |
| 20:37.43 | DaemonDEB | I wouldn't try shrinking XFS, there's a good reason it's not supported |
| 20:37.47 | DaemonDEB | same with Ext4 |
| 20:37.51 | mXr | juh |
| 20:38.13 | simonrvn | shrunk |
| 20:38.17 | OpenTokix | ext3 works |
| 20:38.25 | OpenTokix | ext3 + lvm == complete flexibility |
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| 20:38.37 | DaemonDEB | Ext3 is slow and all around crappy |
| 20:38.54 | DaemonDEB | craptacular even |
| 20:38.55 | simonrvn | right |
| 20:39.00 | DaemonDEB | Ext4 fixes it, mostly |
| 20:39.05 | mXr | yeah, i have never had data loss with xfs unless broken hardware was involved |
| 20:39.08 | valdyn | DaemonDEB: thats why every distro defaults to using it, sure |
| 20:40.09 | mXr | with ext3, quite often |
| 20:40.09 | simonrvn | smells TOA |
| 20:40.09 | DaemonDEB | every distro uses it because it's what the primadonnas at kernel.org support |
| 20:40.09 | valdyn | !toa |
| 20:40.09 | johndoe | ive heard that reiser is good |
| 20:40.10 | valdyn | oo |
| 20:40.10 | nareshov | BCM43: your disk is dying |
| 20:40.10 | DaemonDEB | even when presented with better options |
| 20:40.10 | simonrvn | just invented it |
| 20:40.10 | DaemonDEB | kernel.org has not-invented-here syndrome |
| 20:40.11 | valdyn | johndoe: theres no reason at all to use reiserfs |
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| 20:40.11 | BCM43 | nareshov, it was working fine with windows |
| 20:40.13 | OpenTokix | DaemonDEB: I have noticed very very small speed differences between ext3 and xfs, sub 5% even with specialized format + mount-options |
| 20:40.20 | johndoe | BCM43: which version of debian? |
| 20:40.23 | mXr | BCM43: try booting a rescue disc and running smartctl -a -data /dev/sda or whatever |
| 20:40.26 | simonrvn | BCM43: windows hides that stuff... |
| 20:40.29 | nareshov | windows might have error logs |
| 20:40.35 | nareshov | you might have to look for it |
| 20:40.35 | BCM43 | johndoe, lenny |
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| 20:40.46 | BCM43 | mXr, ok, thanks |
| 20:40.49 | mXr | OpenTokix: i have noticed huge increase in speed on xfs compared to ext3, somewhere between 100 and 200% |
| 20:40.51 | OpenTokix | DaemonDEB: I did exessive testing on a 11 drive hw-raid-enclosure over dual-sad |
| 20:40.55 | DaemonDEB | I use XFS for a few reasons, one is it's faster, two is I can optimize the layout without formatting (you have to format when Ext3 gets badly fragmented) |
| 20:40.55 | simonrvn | yes, you have to go look for it |
| 20:40.56 | OpenTokix | mXr: oki |
| 20:40.59 | mXr | then again, it is very much slower than ext3 when it comes to deleting |
| 20:41.00 | OpenTokix | sad == sas |
| 20:41.02 | valdyn | new windows versions actually warn about smart errers in very annoying ways |
| 20:41.12 | DaemonDEB | a third reason is the journal doesn't store any file data, only metadata |
| 20:41.19 | DaemonDEB | so I can shred files and they stay dead |
| 20:41.21 | OpenTokix | I used iozone and bonie |
| 20:41.26 | BCM43 | i can get to busy box, and running df gives me one thing that is 10024 kb. |
| 20:41.41 | DaemonDEB | iozone and bonnie are poor benchmarks |
| 20:41.41 | valdyn | DaemonDEB: every journaling fs does this |
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| 20:42.04 | OpenTokix | But on the other hand, I want to keep it simple =) |
| 20:42.04 | simonrvn | valdyn: Talking Outta Ass |
| 20:42.05 | OpenTokix | always |
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| 20:42.32 | valdyn | simonrvn: every journaling fs supported by linux *does* this |
| 20:42.49 | simonrvn | valdyn: no no, what TOA means :) |
| 20:42.54 | OpenTokix | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.56 | valdyn | simonrvn: oh!, thanks |
| 20:43.12 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:43.14 | DaemonDEB | Ext4 and XFS completely blow Ext3 out of the water |
| 20:43.21 | DaemonDEB | you're talking more like 20%~ |
| 20:43.43 | jelly-home | hands DaemonDEB a few zeroed files |
| 20:43.54 | lxsameer | is there any way to download the udeb file from repository ? i don't know the name i just want the files with udeb prefix |
| 20:43.57 | OpenTokix | DaemonDEB: Do you have any of your own tests online? |
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| 20:43.58 | DaemonDEB | that's a myth |
| 20:44.02 | valdyn | DaemonDEB: that is true, but 99% of debian users need safety of their data, not those meager 20% |
| 20:44.03 | DaemonDEB | I've never had it happen |
| 20:44.12 | DaemonDEB | even when my system has crashed or the power went out |
| 20:44.51 | valdyn | DaemonDEB: youre just lucky |
| 20:45.07 | DaemonDEB | yeah, I tend to ignore random Slashdot chatter |
| 20:45.09 | OpenTokix | xfs has never crashed on me either - ran it for a long time on various systems. |
| 20:45.09 | simonrvn | ...and probably have an UPS ;) |
| 20:45.14 | DaemonDEB | that's where this crap comes from |
| 20:45.20 | valdyn | DaemonDEB: you should read it |
| 20:45.26 | OpenTokix | I switched from xfs from the day I tried to shrink =) |
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| 20:45.49 | nareshov | me too |
| 20:45.50 | nareshov | D: |
| 20:46.13 | Akuw | any way to repair write documents? |
| 20:46.18 | DaemonDEB | you should never make an XFS or Ext4 volume bigger than you can live with, you can always grow it later B-) |
| 20:46.19 | nareshov | XFS on laptops with plenty of RAM isn't a bad idea, is it? |
| 20:46.25 | johndoe | so, what filesystem are you suggesting? |
| 20:46.30 | Akuw | when i open i get ��#regf=#####0��#�_���##########E#X # �###,\##M#i#c#r##o#s# |
| 20:46.30 | DaemonDEB | I use XFS on my laptop |
| 20:46.32 | OpenTokix | ext3 |
| 20:46.35 | DaemonDEB | it has 1 gig of RAM |
| 20:46.38 | valdyn | nareshov: laptops ship with an ups |
| 20:46.45 | valdyn | nareshov: called laptop battery |
| 20:46.48 | simonrvn | Akuw: "write" docs? OOo? they're gzipped |
| 20:46.53 | valdyn | nareshov: they should be less prone to these issues |
| 20:47.06 | Akuw | .odt |
| 20:47.08 | DaemonDEB | what I have lost data to is Ext3 |
| 20:47.09 | Akuw | and doc |
| 20:47.13 | nareshov | valdyn: yes |
| 20:47.15 | valdyn | nareshov: just automatically shutdown on low battery |
| 20:47.17 | DaemonDEB | after an hour and a half of fsck goodness |
| 20:47.26 | DaemonDEB | so you can lose data to _anything_ |
| 20:47.30 | OpenTokix | hehe, your laptop =) |
| 20:47.32 | simonrvn | .doc files are binary data |
| 20:47.52 | DaemonDEB | this is why important files get backed up to something |
| 20:47.57 | simonrvn | the m$hit ones anyway.... |
| 20:48.06 | DaemonDEB | USB sticks are like $7 for 4 gigs now |
| 20:48.07 | DaemonDEB | ;) |
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| 20:49.16 | DaemonDEB | valdyn: CmdrTaco needs to be sent to a re-education camp |
| 20:49.24 | valdyn | johndoe: you should stick to ext3 |
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| 20:49.35 | DaemonDEB | POSIX-buffered IO ftw! |
| 20:49.50 | nareshov | ^ |
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| 20:50.05 | valdyn | DaemonDEB: and you should take actual problems actual people are having serious before recommending xfs or ext4 to trusting people |
| 20:50.16 | johndoe | valdyn: and not ext2? |
| 20:50.27 | valdyn | johndoe: no, not ext2, no good reason for that |
| 20:50.39 | DaemonDEB | valdyn: If people used freaking fsync, data consistency would be a non-issue |
| 20:50.40 | OpenTokix | ext4? - is even ext4 in some kernel provided by debian? |
| 20:50.42 | johndoe | someone said that journalling was pointless anyway |
| 20:50.50 | DaemonDEB | but the Slashdot morons have scared them into avoiding it |
| 20:50.53 | OpenTokix | journaling is the win |
| 20:50.58 | valdyn | johndoe: thats nonsense |
| 20:51.04 | valdyn | johndoe: journaling is very useful |
| 20:51.11 | streuner | ^Fatma_: why are you spamming me? |
| 20:51.19 | DaemonDEB | Ext4 is stable in 2.6.28 |
| 20:51.27 | DaemonDEB | but has been available since 2.6.19 |
| 20:51.31 | DaemonDEB | as Ext4Dev |
| 20:51.35 | OpenTokix | but debian dont have a 2.6.28 kernel afaik. |
| 20:51.39 | nareshov | in any case, none of the current linux fses promise end-to-end data integrity anyway |
| 20:51.50 | nareshov | use ext3 - most widely supported perhaps |
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| 20:51.58 | DaemonDEB | heh |
| 20:52.04 | OpenTokix | ext3, yeah |
| 20:52.05 | DaemonDEB | supported by who? |
| 20:52.13 | jelly-home | DaemonDEB: tytso. |
| 20:52.15 | DaemonDEB | you need support? I'll give you a hug |
| 20:52.15 | OpenTokix | if you have to ask, go with the safe choice |
| 20:52.18 | DaemonDEB | you're supported |
| 20:52.22 | nareshov | actively developed hence quick fixes |
| 20:52.27 | nareshov | support in that sense |
| 20:52.36 | DaemonDEB | XFS is stable and thoroughly debugged |
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| 20:52.44 | DaemonDEB | it doesn't _need_ many patches |
| 20:52.49 | OpenTokix | There is no deb-package for 2.6.28 from repos |
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| 20:52.56 | valdyn | johndoe: journals are not meant to guarantee that all data is on the disk, they are meant to guarantee that the filesystem is unbroken. It does that perfectly fine. ext2 does not. |
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| 20:52.58 | mXr | did anything change regarding the SIOCGIFCONF ioctl on 2.6.28 kernels? |
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| 20:53.03 | mXr | i think my dhcpd fail is somehow related to that.. |
| 20:53.04 | DaemonDEB | there is in Sid |
| 20:53.09 | DaemonDEB | or you could compile your own |
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| 20:53.49 | DaemonDEB | but that only gives you kernel support, you still need the updated disk tools too |
| 20:53.54 | avu | the fact that the kernel developrs mark it as stable doesn't mean it is so. ReiserFS is also marked as stable. :) |
| 20:54.10 | avu | and has been for a long time. yet it still sucks. |
| 20:54.25 | OpenTokix | avu: ^5 |
| 20:54.31 | valdyn | avu: stable doesnt mean it cant suck |
| 20:54.38 | valdyn | avu: fat sucks too, and is stable |
| 20:54.54 | DaemonDEB | XFS is 15 years old, it's stable, and still outperforms Ext4 in some cases |
| 20:55.11 | avu | valdyn, well, in this case, by 'suck' I mean 'it eats your data' which in fs terms pretty much translates to 'unstable' as far as I cam concerned |
| 20:55.16 | DaemonDEB | XFS can still handle bigger files and partitions than Ext4 too |
| 20:55.21 | amphi | xfs has generally worked well for me |
| 20:55.27 | DaemonDEB | not that anyone has 16 Exbibyte disks |
| 20:55.31 | DaemonDEB | but when we do, it's there |
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| 20:56.14 | avu | I like being very conservative about my file system choice. I don't think I'll even consider using anything other than ext3 before squeze is stable |
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| 20:56.33 | DaemonDEB | I believe XFS supports 8 Exbibyte volumes on 32-bit Linux |
| 20:56.42 | DaemonDEB | and 16 Exbibyte volumes on 64-bit Linux |
| 20:56.50 | keith4_ | i've built the zaptel modules using module-assistant, but when i got to insert ztdummy using 2.6.26-1-xen-686, it fails with " ztdummy: Unknown symbol rtc_register" and for "rtc_unregister" and "rtc_control" |
| 20:56.59 | assem | i'm using a design program through a remote X session - i'm noticing 100% cpu utilization (and unusable choppy lag) for a certain object move command. this doesn't happen for other machines i've worked with. how can i determine the bottleneck source? |
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| 20:57.41 | DaemonDEB | Debian supports /boot on XFS, so you can have everything on the root filesystem if you like B-) |
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| 20:58.01 | valdyn | assem: that load you have on the client? |
| 20:58.02 | mXr | keith4: thats a known issue, there is no rtc support in xen domU's |
| 20:58.41 | valdyn | assem: can only be the display system, acceleration options, graphics driver |
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| 20:58.55 | mXr | keith4: google "ztxen", might be a solution for you |
| 20:59.07 | assem | valdyn: yes - i thought about strace or gdb on the program but remote X session means i can't/don't need such things right? |
| 20:59.39 | valdyn | assem: youd have to do that to figure out what exactly is slow |
| 20:59.42 | assem | valdyn: hm, it is a crappy intel mobile card... the further i 'zoom' in, the larger the object becomes relative to screen size that i'm moving... |
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| 20:59.47 | valdyn | assem: likely, on the display system |
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| 20:59.51 | keith4_ | mXr, that looks like it's for running zaptel in a xen domU, but I'm running it in the dom0 (precisely because of timing issues) |
| 20:59.52 | valdyn | assem: locally, on the display system |
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| 21:00.08 | valdyn | assem: is it using the vesa driver or something silly as that? |
| 21:00.15 | keith4_ | mXr, it worked fine with dom0 on etch's kernel |
| 21:00.18 | mordy | assem: it the CPU waiitng or actualy doing something? |
| 21:00.31 | mXr | keith4: oh. true. not sure about if it should work in the dom0... |
| 21:00.31 | johndoe | debian 5.0? so lenny is stable now !? |
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| 21:00.41 | mordy | could be the CPU waiting for a relatively slow network link |
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| 21:00.46 | assem | mordy: i just notice the gkrellm cpu monitor max out |
| 21:00.46 | keith4_ | johndoe, for a few weeks now, yes |
| 21:00.53 | valdyn | assem: use top, check if cpu "load" is actually io wait |
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| 21:00.59 | mordy | assem: look at something like top or dstat |
| 21:01.01 | johndoe | bah, its like im living in a cave i guess |
| 21:01.03 | DaemonDEB | After SGI gave up trying to get people to use fsync, they just put a hack into the file system itself to make it do one on close anyway |
| 21:01.06 | assem | mordy: unlikely, the desktop on the same lan (with better hardware) runs fine |
| 21:01.14 | mordy | that should tell you more detailed information |
| 21:01.32 | assem | ok will try - and will check on my driver too |
| 21:01.33 | mordy | assem: over a similar X session? |
| 21:01.43 | assem | valdyn: by driver, you mean x server? i know it's just an intel driver... |
| 21:01.56 | mordy | better hardware usually means faster real-world connection speeds |
| 21:01.57 | valdyn | assem: intel on the other systems too? |
| 21:02.14 | axz | Guys i would like small support with RRD on debian because i;m lost hot to get output on my server |
| 21:02.18 | assem | valdyn: nvidia on the desktop... a much newer/nicer system |
| 21:02.33 | valdyn | assem: ok, check top, if its not iowait then |
| 21:02.39 | valdyn | !intel slow scrolling |
| 21:02.39 | dpkg | Switch to XAA acceleration by modifying or adding a device section like https://valdyn.org/xorg-intel-use-xaa in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. |
| 21:02.43 | valdyn | assem: use that ^^ |
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| 21:05.00 | mordy | hey am i the only one who had apache broken during an update? |
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| 21:05.32 | mordy | not a big problem, just had to delete a few references and broken symlinks, but still wanted to know if ohters had the same problem |
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| 21:07.56 | benley | I'm kinda expecting my apache and exim configs to explode when I upgrade to lenny |
| 21:09.36 | jintxo | upgrade to lenny on my apache2 lamp and postfix servers went fine, no problems whatsoever. I did test it on test servers before doing it just in case because there was a small thing with postfix sasl auth but htat's it |
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| 21:15.04 | johnrw | waves |
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| 21:16.27 | assem | valdyn: mordy: thanks for your help! Xorg was maxing out cpu but the XAA acceleration method fixed my problems! |
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| 21:18.57 | johnrw | ok... I ran into a bug... using kde... and it's kioslave->fish on lenny... and after doing some reading... and testing... it may be a kernel bug... and so I decided to test in a vm using sidux and it is not affected in that... so now I need a reference that can tell me how to build upgrade my kernel, i guess... |
| 21:19.29 | abrotman | which kernel are you using? |
| 21:19.50 | johnrw | lenny 2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 21:20.44 | johnrw | the kde bug is here http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123 |
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| 21:21.21 | johnrw | it was never really fixed... |
| 21:21.30 | ringo999 | after "adduser --disabled-login" how to i enable login again. I need to set the password, but how? |
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| 21:23.08 | abrotman | johnrw: did you try the KDE_FORK_SLAVES=true konqueror ? |
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| 21:24.44 | johnrw | yes... that didn't help |
| 21:25.17 | johnrw | btw: g'evening abrotman |
| 21:26.04 | johnrw | sidux kernel - 2.6.28-5.slh.3-sidux-686 |
| 21:27.12 | johnrw | they are both using kde 3.5.10 although there were some patches to fish.cpp since the lenny freeze... |
| 21:28.06 | johnrw | I finally got a coherent layout that gdb can find source files in... |
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| 21:29.53 | johnrw | http://pastebin.ca/1361607 is what I had been getting... |
| 21:30.03 | johnrw | Breakpoint 1, kdemain (argc=4, argv=0x930a1e0) at /tmp/buildd/kdebase-3.5.9.dfsg.1/./kioslave/fish/fish.cpp:129 |
| 21:30.05 | johnrw | 129 KLocale::setMainCatalogue("kio_fish"); |
| 21:30.27 | johnrw | so i am making progress... :) |
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| 21:30.41 | nick4 | I have apt-pinned 3 or 4 packages but I dont remember if they came from unstable or experiment. Any way to see this? |
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| 21:36.04 | YoBoY | hi |
| 21:36.50 | RiotingPacifist` | whats the fastest way to copy alot of small files? fish is only getting about 1mb/s over a 6mb wireless link |
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| 21:40.23 | keith4_ | RiotingPacifist`, tar? |
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| 21:40.36 | keith4_ | nick4, apt-cache policy? |
| 21:42.53 | DaemonDEB | valdyn: "Can we please put this to rest; xfs does not explicitly null files on a crash....and the old behavior, which has almost always been wrongly explained, has been fixed for over a year now." |
| 21:42.59 | DaemonDEB | per Eric Sandeen |
| 21:43.11 | DaemonDEB | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git&a=commitdiff&h=ba87ea699ebd9dd577bf055ebc4a98200e337542 |
| 21:43.34 | jelly-home | DaemonDEB: that's slightly less than 15 years. |
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| 21:43.52 | jelly-home | and ext4 exhibits that behaviour today. |
| 21:44.04 | DaemonDEB | yeah, and has how many other bugs? |
| 21:44.17 | DaemonDEB | It's stil ltoo new and untested to know what horrible things it can do |
| 21:44.40 | jelly-home | dunno, I'm not discussing that in a support channel |
| 21:45.10 | nick4 | ok let me check that keith4 |
| 21:45.19 | DaemonDEB | it seems like the XFS bug only cropped up in Linux |
| 21:45.26 | DaemonDEB | IRIX was never affected |
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| 21:46.13 | maligor | yes, ext4 might suddenly decide to devour your keyboard! |
| 21:46.29 | OpenTokix | noone ever shut down irix-system,since noone know how to start them again =) |
| 21:46.53 | DaemonDEB | IRIX was much better than Linux at the time XFS was ported |
| 21:47.10 | DaemonDEB | so of course there were going to be issues |
| 21:47.15 | mavhc | plus who didn't love purple? |
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| 21:48.52 | DaemonDEB | I like IRIX, it's a shame it was EOL'd, but Debian runs on Mips quite well |
| 21:48.58 | DaemonDEB | so all is not lost B-) |
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| 21:49.16 | OpenTokix | I admined a onyx2 and a tesla, they both sucked ass |
| 21:49.39 | Rienzilla | I owned an onyx1 :/ |
| 21:49.42 | Rienzilla | it was stolen |
| 21:49.57 | OpenTokix | Rienzilla: The joke was on the thieves, they tought it was a real computer. |
| 21:50.04 | Rienzilla | it used to be |
| 21:50.07 | Rienzilla | still |
| 21:50.15 | Rienzilla | I owned it as some sort of museum piece |
| 21:50.33 | DaemonDEB | They ship with Red Hat Enterprise Linux now |
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| 21:50.36 | Rienzilla | it had the big ass graphicsboard, and 4 r10ks |
| 21:50.44 | OpenTokix | DaemonDEB: They had a custom suse for a while |
| 21:50.47 | DaemonDEB | I've had to learn so many Linux systems and their own quirks and bugs |
| 21:50.50 | OpenTokix | It also sucked =) |
| 21:50.51 | DaemonDEB | I could scream |
| 21:50.56 | Rienzilla | i still have a spare logicboard, new in shrinkwrap :) |
| 21:51.21 | OpenTokix | I had the first SGI visual workstation 320 in europe, once upon a time |
| 21:51.29 | DaemonDEB | Suse is my all time least favorite |
| 21:51.43 | DaemonDEB | I can live with Fedora or CentOS |
| 21:51.49 | maligor | that's also slightly OT |
| 21:51.54 | DaemonDEB | if it has to be an RPM distro |
| 21:52.03 | OpenTokix | debian or nothing =) |
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| 21:52.51 | OpenTokix | but getting back on sorta on topic |
| 21:52.52 | DaemonDEB | yeah, but you get into all these button up organizations, they won't do Debian cause they need a support contract |
| 21:52.56 | OpenTokix | Get servers with ipmi 2.0 |
| 21:52.57 | OpenTokix | =) |
| 21:53.00 | OpenTokix | it rules! |
| 21:53.07 | DaemonDEB | which is where the 3. Profit comes in for Ubuntu I guess |
| 21:54.07 | OpenTokix | DaemonDEB: Depends on your managmentteams |
| 21:54.18 | nareshov | debian or nothing for me too |
| 21:54.37 | DaemonDEB | most managers see support contract or no dice |
| 21:54.46 | OpenTokix | http://random.0x7b8.net/pics/colo.jpg <-- my latest rack I installed,debian 5.0 =) |
| 21:54.50 | DaemonDEB | Debian is great if you can support it in-house |
| 21:55.06 | OpenTokix | Support contracts is shit |
| 21:55.18 | OpenTokix | Just some text on paper |
| 21:55.23 | OpenTokix | Has _no_ value |
| 21:55.47 | DaemonDEB | Debian has the part I want anyway, packages that are stable and stay put |
| 21:55.57 | DaemonDEB | I hate upgrading every 6 months |
| 21:56.02 | Rienzilla | hah |
| 21:56.11 | DaemonDEB | and then it may start back up B-) |
| 21:56.14 | Rienzilla | I adminned a couple of *shiver* mandriva servers :) |
| 21:56.23 | Rienzilla | that was a maintenance horror |
| 21:56.32 | OpenTokix | slackware =) |
| 21:56.37 | digitaloktay | DaemonDEB: use unstable ;) |
| 21:56.52 | DaemonDEB | I don't think so |
| 21:57.10 | Rienzilla | a new release every six months, and in within those releases new major vaersions of packages were introduced which broke the system more than once :) |
| 21:57.20 | DaemonDEB | I'm perfectly happy with Lenny plus a couple of jerry rigged packages I pulled out of Testing or Sid |
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| 21:57.54 | zleap | afaik testing is squeeze right |
| 21:57.54 | DaemonDEB | Rienzilla: Can't beat Ubuntu introducing and setting up Pulseaudio incorrectly |
| 21:58.02 | DaemonDEB | in a Long Term Support release B-) |
| 21:58.22 | zleap | DaemonDEB, yeah, i have real issues with sound + flash, sound just dies, sometimes |
| 21:58.24 | Rienzilla | I have had significantly less problems with ubuntu than with mandriva |
| 21:58.40 | DaemonDEB | I added Pulseaudio to Lenny |
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| 21:58.59 | zleap | DaemonDEB, this was on ubuntu sorry |
| 21:59.20 | DaemonDEB | mainly cause Quake Wars was complaining of dropped sound packets |
| 21:59.27 | DaemonDEB | Pulseaudio fixes that |
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| 21:59.58 | DaemonDEB | Pulse is much more predictable than what Esound will do to a stream |
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| 22:00.35 | DaemonDEB | that's why I was baffled that Pulse isn't a default in Lenny |
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| 22:00.43 | DaemonDEB | but it's easy enough to add in I guess |
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| 22:02.07 | nekostar | stabs Talkradio |
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| 22:03.23 | digitaloktay_ | !ping |
| 22:03.23 | dpkg | pong |
| 22:03.44 | e1337enough | @ping |
| 22:03.52 | e1337enough | .ping |
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| 22:03.59 | e1337enough | +ping |
| 22:04.05 | e1337enough | waits |
| 22:04.15 | digitaloktay_ | e1337enough, !ping |
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| 22:05.47 | chomwitt | i cant open nautilus in lenny! |
| 22:06.30 | amphi | what a relief! |
| 22:06.48 | OpenTokix | haha |
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| 22:07.11 | Rienzilla | lol |
| 22:07.15 | nareshov | lol |
| 22:07.59 | scientes | oo i like all the tag moves |
| 22:08.14 | scientes | finially giving languages their own proper sections |
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| 22:10.41 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps how do i get sudo no have a timer on it, lets say i sudo command and then like 10 min later i want to be able to sudo command and not be prompted for a password is this possible?? |
| 22:10.48 | bbelt16ag | i am reading to manual right now so far no luck |
| 22:11.17 | bbelt16ag | it is getting really annoying to have to enter it 50 times when i boot up a new system.. |
| 22:11.19 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: might aswell use NOPASSWD |
| 22:11.37 | amphi | bbelt16ag: why not use su, or log in as root? |
| 22:11.41 | bbelt16ag | then its ensecure |
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| 22:11.59 | amphi | what is? |
| 22:12.01 | valdyn | bbelt16ag: then its lightly less secure than a long timer |
| 22:12.02 | bbelt16ag | i gotta put a password in anad the other leave the shell open .. |
| 22:12.14 | keith4_ | if I have to build a new kernel, can I start with the .config of my current (stock) kernel? |
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| 22:12.35 | amphi | keith4_: yes; use 'make oldconfig' after copying the .config |
| 22:13.44 | verblendet | hi, i just installed the summa driver for x11. now i need a docu on how to set it up correctly. /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-summa contains nothing useful. i loaded summa driver in the modules section and set up an new input device in xorg.conf, gpm -t summa -m /dev/ttyS0 works fine, but X dont knows it. |
| 22:13.47 | keith4_ | amphi: oh, sweet. thanks |
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| 22:21.55 | hammolation | hi, have a strange problem, i can 'host windowsmachine.localdomain' and get the ip, but then when i try and ping windowsmachine.localdomain i get: ping: unknown host windowsmachine.localdomain |
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| 22:22.42 | Gast_558_ | http://www.my-ex-stript.com/?id=61577 |
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| 22:22.49 | nareshov | lol ^ |
| 22:23.04 | bbelt16ag | i got it wee. |
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| 22:23.21 | bbelt16ag | thanks for the help i just wanted it to be like 5 min so i wouldnt have to type so much.. |
| 22:23.29 | bbelt16ag | i dont use the root pass unless i have to. |
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| 22:26.55 | silarstein | hello |
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| 22:27.46 | dondelelcaro | hammolation: that generally shouldn't happen. See what the strace output is for both ping and host, and compare. |
| 22:27.47 | silarstein | when I shutdown, it stops in the middle with "Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue) |
| 22:27.57 | silarstein | How do I change that? |
| 22:28.03 | keith4_ | how do I get a curses-based kernel config interface? |
| 22:28.19 | nareshov | keith4_: make menuconfig in the src dir |
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| 22:28.32 | keith4_ | hmmm. how do I get a curses-based kernel config interface while using my old .config? |
| 22:28.51 | nareshov | drop old .config there, make oldconfig and then make menuconfig |
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| 22:29.16 | dondelelcaro | silarstein: depends on why it's asking for the root password. It should tell you immediatley before asking for it |
| 22:29.43 | keith4_ | nareshov, beauty! thanks |
| 22:30.18 | silarstein | device eth0 left in promiscuous mode? |
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| 22:30.56 | silarstein | dondelelcaro, is that an error? |
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| 22:31.28 | dondelelcaro | silarstein: I'm not sure if that's an error that should stop shtudown; I've personally never seen it |
| 22:32.03 | silarstein | after that it say INIT: Going single user INIT: Sending processes the TERM signal, then the KILL signal, and then the Give root password |
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| 22:36.25 | orveldv | during my recent install of lenny, eth0 was named automatically "eth0_rename_ren" ; should I edit /etc/network/interfaces and change it to "eth0" ? |
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| 22:36.50 | orveldv | (it refuses to work, btw) |
| 22:37.01 | cusco | !z25 |
| 22:37.01 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
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| 22:37.19 | cusco | see that file orveldv |
| 22:37.31 | orveldv | cusco: ok, thanks |
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| 22:47.01 | ed0n0n | I have port 22 closed, how do I open it? |
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| 22:47.53 | sepski | 1: is something running on it ? 2: are you filtering it? 3: are you behind a nat firewall and you have not portforwarded ? |
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| 22:51.25 | mischief6 | anyone know of a socks5 proxy daemon with authentication, possible sql auth? |
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| 22:55.23 | dustybin | where can i download a official debian flavicon ? |
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| 23:01.43 | icebrain | http://www.debian.org/favicon.ico |
| 23:02.07 | icebrain | the link is in the page source... |
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| 23:02.20 | silarstein | got a keybord and pressed and it rebooted |
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| 23:02.46 | silarstein | now I don't knwo what it was |
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| 23:03.04 | spersaud | everyone seed the torrents files, set your trottle to 20kb up, ....... its good for debian |
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| 23:03.30 | goauld | do you know some program to view easily all system logs instead of "vi" them ? |
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| 23:03.43 | verblendet | what package contains the x11 docs? i neeed infos about how to set up special inputdevices |
| 23:03.44 | OpenTokix | goauld: less |
| 23:03.47 | spersaud | goauld: nano ? |
| 23:03.56 | OpenTokix | goauld: or tail |
| 23:03.57 | goauld | are you kidding |
| 23:04.07 | OpenTokix | goauld: tail -f /var/log/logfile |
| 23:04.11 | benley | tail -f /var/log/* |
| 23:04.17 | keith4_ | goauld, try logwatch |
| 23:04.29 | spersaud | oh logs, ... |
| 23:04.30 | goauld | theres lots of logs in my linkstation, what sysadmins with lots of MB does to ease the job? |
| 23:04.37 | verblendet | there is no x11-doc or doc-x11, hmmm |
| 23:04.39 | liable | mc |
| 23:04.48 | keith4_ | goauld, logrotate? |
| 23:04.52 | benley | goauld: logrotate should clean up log files for you |
| 23:04.54 | goauld | i'll try logwatch keith4_ thanks |
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| 23:05.13 | OpenTokix | goauld: logwatch is a perlscript that parses logs and sends result to root |
| 23:05.19 | goauld | i dont mean clean, i mean fast watch lots of logs finding something "unusual" |
| 23:05.26 | goauld | just to see everything is allright |
| 23:05.31 | groton | how to "install --reinstall" some/all packages outputted by dpkg -l |
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| 23:05.47 | OpenTokix | goauld: logwatch sounds like its for you then, checks logs every day |
| 23:05.55 | goauld | ok thank you a lot |
| 23:05.57 | goauld | :) |
| 23:06.04 | benley | goauld: try logwatch, it sends periodic emails with a summary of log lines that aren't known to be benign |
| 23:06.10 | benley | like opentokix says :) |
| 23:06.13 | mib_v7i1l3gx | guys, I'm looking for the #pure:dyne channel. does it still exist? |
| 23:06.50 | OpenTokix | And debian has a nice default setup for logwatch, its a hassle to customize |
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| 23:07.42 | pl4yer0ne | what no its not? |
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| 23:07.56 | benley | writing the fancy-ass regexes for logwatch can be a pain. |
| 23:08.03 | OpenTokix | hehe |
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| 23:10.24 | goauld | logwatch output looks nice |
| 23:10.38 | OpenTokix | logwatchis nice |
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| 23:11.17 | pl4yer0ne | just remember goauld it wont do your job for you |
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| 23:11.36 | Sazpaimon | http://pastebin.com/m200f0dc7 can someone tell me what is going on on my server? |
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| 23:12.13 | Sazpaimon | these messages are showing up on my serial console repetedly and i can't access my machine |
| 23:12.21 | Rienzilla | eek, that doesnt look healthy |
| 23:13.23 | silarstein | what is the name of that terminal partitioning tool? |
| 23:13.29 | silarstein | not fdisk |
| 23:14.35 | streuner | c |
| 23:14.54 | streuner | (c)fdisk |
| 23:15.04 | streuner | just add in front c :-) |
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| 23:16.23 | silarstein | streuner, thanks :) |
| 23:17.02 | silarstein | they give these difficult names on purpose to confuse me |
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| 23:17.27 | Sazpaimon | so no one has a clue? |
| 23:17.29 | Sazpaimon | :/ |
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| 23:19.35 | silarstein | Sazpaimon, I don't know but it looks like it crashed |
| 23:19.41 | Sazpaimon | i realize that |
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| 23:19.51 | Sazpaimon | i'd like to know what those emssages are coming from |
| 23:19.59 | Sazpaimon | and what i can do to prevent it |
| 23:20.00 | silarstein | Sazpaimon, if it was windows I would say you OCed it too much |
| 23:20.12 | silarstein | Sazpaimon, but I don't know to much linux issues |
| 23:21.06 | dergringo | Munin has never updated apache2 and mysql graphs! Any hint? Got no errors in munin-node.log. But I noticed that there is no entry for apache in /etc/munin/plugin-conf.d/munin-node |
| 23:21.06 | silarstein | you need to find the first message |
| 23:21.36 | silarstein | Sazpaimon, because it looks like you get the stack trace of everything on the computer |
| 23:22.03 | Sazpaimon | silarstein, well thats impossible now as i rebooted the system |
| 23:22.27 | silarstein | maybe it will be in the log somewhere |
| 23:22.33 | silarstein | or dmesg |
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| 23:22.57 | silarstein | better ask someone else too, because I am no expert |
| 23:23.00 | Sazpaimon | dmesg gets reset on reboot |
| 23:23.06 | silarstein | o |
| 23:23.08 | silarstein | k |
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| 23:23.47 | silarstein | maybe make a dmesg log that doesn't get reset |
| 23:24.31 | JPT | ls /var/log/dmesg* |
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| 23:25.02 | goauld | some program required citadel installed, how i access citadel ? |
| 23:25.13 | silarstein | how much swap space does one need? |
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| 23:25.25 | silarstein | is it twice the RAM amount? |
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| 23:26.24 | Rienzilla | that depends |
| 23:26.42 | Rienzilla | twice the amount of ram is more than enough for almost all purposes |
| 23:26.52 | silarstein | I don't think I am gona need more than my physical 8gb |
| 23:27.19 | Sazpaimon | JPT, nope, /var/log/dmesg.0 has nothing' |
| 23:27.22 | Rienzilla | you probably won,t but you do want some swap space in case some process is gonna eat up all your memory |
| 23:27.35 | Rienzilla | if the kernel runs out it's going to kill random processes |
| 23:27.39 | JPT | okay.... it was just a try ;) |
| 23:27.52 | silarstein | aha |
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| 23:30.12 | silarstein | I think I'll make it 9gb |
| 23:30.24 | silarstein | ... |
| 23:30.28 | silarstein | or 6gb |
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| 23:30.48 | silarstein | damn |
| 23:30.51 | silarstein | decisions |
| 23:31.37 | themill | dpkg, choose 6GB or 9GB |
| 23:31.37 | dpkg | hmm... gosh that's a hard choice... but i'm going with 9GB, themill |
| 23:31.46 | themill | silarstein: ^^ well, there you go. |
| 23:31.56 | Rienzilla | lol |
| 23:32.06 | Rienzilla | what size is your disk that you actually have to think about that :) |
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| 23:36.45 | surfdue | hello! when i ssh into my new server if i backspace or anything it puts some weird stuff there like ^H etc |
| 23:36.47 | surfdue | can i stop this? |
| 23:37.25 | keith4_ | surfdue, bad terminal emulation |
| 23:37.33 | jelly-home | surfdue: ssh from where, using which client? |
| 23:37.48 | surfdue | im using coda |
| 23:37.55 | surfdue | ssh built in, i cant find a good terminal program for mac |
| 23:38.34 | jelly-home | tell your client to send ^? when backspace is pressed |
| 23:38.55 | surfdue | i cant, its not customizable i am trying to find a good ssh client for mac |
| 23:38.57 | surfdue | i miss putty |
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| 23:39.07 | keith4_ | surfdue, try iterm |
| 23:39.38 | jelly-home | surfdue: or set up correct TERM setting for that clienbt |
| 23:39.45 | themill | !backspace broke |
| 23:39.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, backspace broke is #macosx helped me: in 10.5.2 you need to go to Terminal -> Preferences -> Settings -> Advanced and check the Delete sends Ctrl-H box |
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| 23:41.24 | surfdue | thcx guys i thought m server was broken |
| 23:41.26 | surfdue | <3 iterm |
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| 23:51.36 | Statutory_Ape | uhmmm |
| 23:51.52 | Statutory_Ape | that was weird |
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| 23:52.02 | BlueG | Since I set up exim4 to send mail via my gmail account, anacron seems to be trying to send mail to root@mydomain, however that domain is not set up to recieve mail. How can I prevent it from doing this, perhaps using local mail delivery for root instead? |
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| 23:53.16 | tompaw | Hello. |
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| 23:53.28 | Statutory_Ape | hi |
| 23:53.44 | tompaw | I am about to migrate from etch to lenny. However, before I do, I'd like to check what packages I was using from the backports repos. |
| 23:54.05 | tompaw | Is there a way for aptitude or any other package software to show me the list of software installed from their repos? |
| 23:54.06 | abrotman | tompaw: dpkg -l | grep bpo .. should do it IIRC |
| 23:54.11 | tompaw | abrotman: thank you. |
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| 23:55.00 | tompaw | libapache2-mod-wsgi... let's hope it really works in Lenny :-) |
| 23:55.18 | ladesbasement | is any one using "gigabyte ma790x-ud4" motherboard with linux? and if so what distro, any probs? |
| 23:55.49 | tompaw | should I remove backport URLs from sources before I do the upgrade? |
| 23:56.17 | abrotman | probably |
| 23:56.20 | Statutory_Ape | tompaw, I think you can leave the backports out for now |
| 23:56.27 | tompaw | ;) |
| 23:56.37 | tompaw | ok. |
| 23:56.45 | abrotman | i think yu're also supposed to remove packages from bpo |
| 23:57.01 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, wouldn't a higher version number take priority? |
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| 23:57.06 | Statutory_Ape | from lenny repos |
| 23:57.21 | _Hicham_ | Hi All! |
| 23:57.22 | abrotman | but the interaction may not be well defined |
| 23:57.27 | _Hicham_ | how r u doing? |
| 23:57.29 | Statutory_Ape | I don't think you _need_ to remove the bpo packages but I'm not too positive |
| 23:57.45 | _Hicham_ | can I ask a question? |
| 23:57.51 | Statutory_Ape | _Hicham_, no! |
| 23:57.55 | abrotman | the lenny packages assume oyu're updating from etch packages .. not sure what happens if there are bpo packages |
| 23:58.26 | tompaw | abrotman: we will know in a few seconds. |
| 23:58.28 | Statutory_Ape | _Hicham_, seriously.. yes you can. Ask |
| 23:58.35 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#userbackports |
| 23:58.38 | tompaw | are there any reasons to run the upgrade process on screen? |
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| 23:58.56 | _Hicham_ | is it possible to do a dist upgrade from Ubuntu Intrepid to Debian Sid? |
| 23:59.00 | abrotman | tompaw: i would .. it also recommends using 'script' |
| 23:59.04 | Statutory_Ape | I see |
| 23:59.04 | abrotman | _Hicham_: no |
| 23:59.17 | Statutory_Ape | I hadn't yet read over the release notes or upgrading articles |
| 23:59.27 | Statutory_Ape | then again I didn't need to yet ;) |
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| 23:59.33 | _Hicham_ | abrotman : it wouldnt work at all? |
| 23:59.42 | abrotman | it would probably make a huge mess |
| 23:59.44 | Statutory_Ape | _Hicham_, is it possible? sure. Is it recommended or supported? no. |
