| 00:00.13 | Statutory_Ape | _Hicham_, though you can install debian from within ubuntu, debootstrap or start the netinst from within |
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| 00:00.57 | _Hicham_ | that means that i will have to format and reinstall everything? |
| 00:01.09 | Statutory_Ape | not unless you kept /home on a seperate partition |
| 00:01.18 | Statutory_Ape | which you should always try to do |
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| 00:02.04 | _Hicham_ | so there is no way to keep the installed software? |
| 00:02.08 | Statutory_Ape | no |
| 00:02.13 | ladesbasement | "gigabyte ma790x-ud4" motherboard and debian.......... will it work? |
| 00:02.31 | themill | _Hicham_: may I also be as bold as to suggest that if you're asking these questions, you shouldn't run sid? People using sid should already know the answers to these questions. btw /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 00:03.04 | Statutory_Ape | themill, yes, that is a good way to keep your list of packages, given they are named the same on both distros |
| 00:03.10 | BlueG | How do I configure the email address anacron sends notices to? |
| 00:03.11 | abrotman | ladesbasement: that means nothing to us .. what actual hardware is on it ? |
| 00:03.17 | abrotman | BlueG: MAILTO |
| 00:03.19 | Statutory_Ape | for the most part they are, yes, but that could also cause potential problem |
| 00:03.32 | ladesbasement | amd 790 chipset? |
| 00:03.41 | themill | Statutory_Ape: quite. There are enough differences as to make it only a list for you to refer to yourself |
| 00:04.06 | BlueG | abrotman: Where do I find this MAILTO? |
| 00:04.09 | ladesbasement | 790x even |
| 00:04.34 | Statutory_Ape | ladesbasement, unless you're worried about budget, I'd go with an intel build |
| 00:04.44 | Sazpaimon | so i guess i'll ask again |
| 00:04.58 | abrotman | BlueG: man 8 cron |
| 00:05.02 | Sazpaimon | http://pastebin.com/m200f0dc7 can someone tell me what is causing these messages to appear and make my server unresponsive? |
| 00:05.04 | tompaw | aptitude safe-upgrade << is it supposed to actually do anything? in my case it just complaints about 2 packages with unmet dependencies. |
| 00:05.10 | Statutory_Ape | personally has almost no experience apart from having used a K6 cpu once |
| 00:05.15 | ladesbasement | would love to but budget is a bit of an issue |
| 00:05.31 | Statutory_Ape | ladesbasement, :( |
| 00:05.37 | Statutory_Ape | ladesbasement, try ##hardware |
| 00:05.42 | Statutory_Ape | im there too |
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| 00:05.57 | ladesbasement | ? the wife does the checkbook lol |
| 00:06.07 | abrotman | ladesbasement: we need to know the actual devices on the board .. like the sata controller, NIC, etc |
| 00:06.23 | Statutory_Ape | ladesbasement, link us to a page with mobo stats? |
| 00:06.32 | Statutory_Ape | chipset info etc. |
| 00:06.32 | ladesbasement | the sb is the 750 |
| 00:06.36 | tompaw | http://pastebin.com/m3e0621fc |
| 00:06.43 | tompaw | this is my safe-upgrade result |
| 00:06.55 | tompaw | should I full-upgrade or do I have to do something about it first? |
| 00:07.20 | ladesbasement | k hold on |
| 00:07.27 | Statutory_Ape | tompaw, nothing to worrya bout |
| 00:07.36 | tompaw | ok, full-upgrade? |
| 00:07.37 | Statutory_Ape | fire up a full upgrade |
| 00:07.41 | tompaw | k :> |
| 00:08.36 | ladesbasement | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128381 |
| 00:09.06 | Statutory_Ape | that'll be fine |
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| 00:09.23 | Statutory_Ape | though if you're going with a 114$ mobo, why not just go with an intel build |
| 00:09.39 | Statutory_Ape | get a core 2 for just over a 100, a great mobo for a bit under 100 |
| 00:09.47 | Statutory_Ape | its not too much more than amd dude |
| 00:10.14 | ladesbasement | amd not doing well with linux? |
| 00:10.26 | abrotman | those are hardly mobo specs ... |
| 00:11.02 | ladesbasement | i can find better specs |
| 00:11.30 | silarstein | themill, cool, I didn't know that dpkg can do that. I think that my productivity will go up now :D |
| 00:11.43 | mischief6 | can anyone tell me where the terminfo file/files is/are? |
| 00:11.52 | BlueG | abrotman: so it is an environment variable, but where should it be set? |
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| 00:12.33 | bbelt16ag | hey are there any mmorpg games for linux |
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| 00:12.56 | ladesbasement | http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=3002&ProductName=GA-MA790X-UD4 |
| 00:12.59 | mischief6 | bbelt16ag, you can run WoW in wine |
| 00:12.59 | Statutory_Ape | ladesbasement, http://hardware4linux.info/system/3268/ |
| 00:13.07 | mischief6 | but don't play WoW. :) |
| 00:13.13 | Statutory_Ape | nethack! |
| 00:13.16 | mumia-w-19 | Hello. I want to get Internet connection sharing working through my bluetooth adapters. When bnep0 appears on my desktop computer, it has no ip address. How can I configure my computer to automatically give bnep0 an ip address? |
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| 00:13.23 | abrotman | BlueG: pretty sure it tells you |
| 00:13.43 | Statutory_Ape | bbelt16ag, #debian-ga,es |
| 00:13.46 | Statutory_Ape | bbelt16ag, #debian-games |
| 00:15.04 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:15.17 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, define that interface there, use dhcp on it or static ip whatever you want |
| 00:15.23 | ladesbasement | <Statutory_Ape> i saw that page when iwas shopping but was thrown a little by the "dsu" instead of the "ud4" |
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| 00:15.39 | Statutory_Ape | never worked with bluetooth no idea how you'd bring that interface up or down or whatever |
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| 00:15.50 | bbelt16ag | heh |
| 00:15.53 | bbelt16ag | hmmm |
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| 00:16.13 | BlueG | abrotman: I am guessing I can set it by putting MAILTO=root@localhost on a new line in /etc/anacrontab. Will that work? |
| 00:16.22 | Statutory_Ape | try ##linux as well I think your SB/NB shoudln't have a problem on linux |
| 00:16.29 | Statutory_Ape | 2.6.28 at least |
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| 00:16.46 | Statutory_Ape | and it has realtek chipset for nic so thats good |
| 00:16.51 | BlueG | or perhaps user@localhost |
| 00:16.57 | tompaw | Setting up libapache2-mod-wsgi (2.3-1) ... |
| 00:16.59 | tompaw | looks ok :-) |
| 00:17.01 | ladesbasement | so make shure i use the latest kernal |
| 00:17.21 | Statutory_Ape | what does lenny come with? |
| 00:17.35 | Statutory_Ape | i forgot |
| 00:17.42 | Statutory_Ape | wait i have lenny don't I |
| 00:17.48 | ladesbasement | hehehe |
| 00:17.55 | tompaw | anythink I need to double-check before I reboot? |
| 00:18.00 | tompaw | (after the upgrade) |
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| 00:18.13 | Statutory_Ape | Linux laptop 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 00:18.22 | Statutory_Ape | yeh I got lenny but I got a 2.6.26 |
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| 00:18.32 | abrotman | lenny has .26 |
| 00:18.32 | patrick-1 | Hey all, how can i update my v4l2 headers ? |
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| 00:18.42 | superjoe | hey I have a question about fpm2 |
| 00:18.47 | superjoe | is this a good place for it? |
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| 00:18.53 | ladesbasement | hmmmm |
| 00:18.58 | Statutory_Ape | what is fpm2? |
| 00:19.03 | superjoe | figaro's password manager 2 |
| 00:19.12 | mumia-w-19 | This is what I have so far, but it does not work: http://debian.pastebin.com/d741eb8a7 |
| 00:19.13 | Statutory_Ape | uhm |
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| 00:19.20 | Statutory_Ape | w/e |
| 00:19.28 | superjoe | it works well, but I want to sync between 2 computers |
| 00:19.38 | superjoe | there is a gui for importing/exporting, but no CLI |
| 00:19.40 | Statutory_Ape | whats with the last line |
| 00:19.52 | Statutory_Ape | there is no gateway |
| 00:20.03 | Statutory_Ape | or subnet mask |
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| 00:20.12 | superjoe | so my question is, is somebody fixing this, or should I do it? |
| 00:20.21 | tompaw | 5.0 |
| 00:20.23 | tompaw | yippie!! |
| 00:20.25 | mumia-w-19 | Oh, okay. I guess I need to put those in. |
| 00:20.26 | Statutory_Ape | nm |
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| 00:21.17 | Statutory_Ape | http://debian.pastebin.com/m165e5e02 |
| 00:21.21 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, something like this |
| 00:22.01 | ladesbasement | well thanks a ton ;-) case and sata cords come in monday gona give debian a shot ...... have a good night all |
| 00:22.03 | mumia-w-19 | Thank you! That helps a lot :-D |
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| 00:22.16 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, man 5 interfaces |
| 00:22.21 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, that would help more than I can |
| 00:22.30 | mumia-w-19 | Thanks. |
| 00:22.32 | Statutory_Ape | n |
| 00:22.36 | Statutory_Ape | +p |
| 00:23.05 | Statutory_Ape | judd versions fpm2 |
| 00:23.06 | judd | Statutory_Ape: fpm2 -- lenny: 0.72-1 sid: 0.72-1 squeeze: 0.72-1 |
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| 00:23.18 | goauld | echo "ASDASDASD" | mail root |
| 00:23.35 | goauld | and root doesnt get mail, its exim4 how is it possible? |
| 00:23.38 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, no clue, does this software feature a cli util? |
| 00:23.53 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, if the software is gui only, then thats it, its gui only |
| 00:23.56 | Statutory_Ape | oops |
| 00:23.58 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, not you |
| 00:24.02 | Statutory_Ape | superjoe, you |
| 00:24.11 | goauld | exim4 with default all, for localhost only. |
| 00:24.21 | mumia-w-19 | I only have command-line tools as far as I know. |
| 00:24.33 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, sorry I meant to address superjoe |
| 00:24.42 | mumia-w-19 | oh, okay. |
| 00:24.56 | silarstein | anyone know what do I need in order to mount an LVM on mdadm-raid from a live cd? |
| 00:25.03 | superjoe | that's not the unix way |
| 00:25.26 | Statutory_Ape | it has nothing to do with unix |
| 00:25.35 | Statutory_Ape | fpm2 isn't critical to the functioning of a nix system |
| 00:25.37 | tompaw | Statutory_Ape: thx for your help. all seems ok after the upgrade :-) |
| 00:25.52 | Statutory_Ape | yw |
| 00:25.58 | tompaw | bye |
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| 00:26.01 | Statutory_Ape | nite |
| 00:26.37 | silarstein | Statutory_Ape, what is Statutory_Ape |
| 00:26.40 | silarstein | ? |
| 00:26.43 | Statutory_Ape | play on words |
| 00:26.51 | Statutory_Ape | fucking underage girls is called statutory rape |
| 00:26.55 | Statutory_Ape | I just took the R off |
| 00:27.06 | silarstein | ah |
| 00:27.08 | silarstein | ok |
| 00:27.27 | superjoe | yeah now it just means a monkey standing still |
| 00:27.29 | Statutory_Ape | but the meaning is totally different |
| 00:27.36 | Statutory_Ape | that is stationary |
| 00:27.42 | Statutory_Ape | statute has a diff meaning |
| 00:27.43 | Statutory_Ape | :) |
| 00:28.01 | superjoe | oh right |
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| 00:28.14 | silarstein | what is statute? |
| 00:28.17 | superjoe | well I figured out that I can just copy everything from ~/.fpm to syncronize computers |
| 00:28.23 | Statutory_Ape | legislative act by a governing body |
| 00:28.29 | Statutory_Ape | go look i tup for a real definition |
| 00:28.30 | DaemonDEB | no, under 16 is statutory rape, between 16-18 is sexual misconduct with a minor |
| 00:28.40 | Statutory_Ape | DaemonDEB, we're not discussing this. |
| 00:28.41 | Kissaki | I just read vista in contrary borders partitions at megabytes rather than cylinders. Linux borders/aligns at cylinders, right? |
| 00:28.49 | DaemonDEB | thats the difference betwen 10-15 years in prison and 1-2 |
| 00:28.56 | Statutory_Ape | Kissaki, I think so |
| 00:28.58 | Kissaki | *contrary to xp* |
| 00:29.02 | Seven_Six_Two | I'm trying to dist-upgrade my server to 5.0 and for some reason it wants to remove my kernel and not install a new one. Is this a known problem? |
| 00:29.10 | superjoe | hahaha |
| 00:29.27 | Statutory_Ape | Seven_Six_Two, hmm was your kernel built custom? |
| 00:29.29 | superjoe | Seven_Six_Two: I hear the new way is aptitude full-upgrade |
| 00:29.41 | Statutory_Ape | superjoe, full-upgrade is the default. |
| 00:29.43 | Seven_Six_Two | Statutory_Ape, no |
| 00:29.45 | superjoe | ah |
| 00:30.03 | Statutory_Ape | man aptitide; /full-upgrade |
| 00:30.11 | Seven_Six_Two | I'll try that. thanks |
| 00:30.16 | Statutory_Ape | Seven_Six_Two, not you |
| 00:30.24 | Seven_Six_Two | lol |
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| 00:30.34 | Statutory_Ape | actually you should rdad it too |
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| 00:30.44 | Statutory_Ape | yeah, for you too, but as for your problem its deeper than just doing a full upgrade |
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| 00:31.00 | Statutory_Ape | Seven_Six_Two, try safe-upgrade first see what it says |
| 00:31.26 | silarstein | So a Statutory_Ape would be an adjective to describe an idiotic law? |
| 00:31.42 | Statutory_Ape | bingo. |
| 00:31.49 | silarstein | :) |
| 00:32.07 | betz | Hi, i forgot how to install a package like python-wxgtk2.6. Can someone help me? |
| 00:32.17 | Statutory_Ape | betz, dpkg -i blah.deb |
| 00:32.23 | abrotman | aptitude install python-wxgtk2.6 |
| 00:32.23 | Statutory_Ape | betz, or apt-get/aptitude install pkgname |
| 00:32.43 | betz | ah yes, aptitude was the magic word, thanks all |
| 00:32.50 | prahal | is there a latex user ? I am struggling finding out the new command that output dvi from tex ? (latex is now a symlink to pdftex ... which output pdf . Neat but no easy preview inside kile or such) |
| 00:33.07 | Seven_Six_Two | ok kernel's not mentioned when I do that. so no more apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 00:33.14 | Statutory_Ape | no |
| 00:33.15 | Statutory_Ape | hell no |
| 00:33.18 | Seven_Six_Two | lol |
| 00:33.20 | Statutory_Ape | Seven_Six_Two, aptitude! |
| 00:33.25 | Statutory_Ape | !tell Seven_Six_Two -about why aptitude |
| 00:33.30 | superjoe | hey tell me too |
| 00:33.36 | Statutory_Ape | superjoe, /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 00:33.36 | superjoe | !tell Supaplex -about why aptitude |
| 00:33.45 | Statutory_Ape | !dpkgbot |
| 00:33.46 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 00:33.55 | Statutory_Ape | !dpkg.web.search |
| 00:33.56 | dpkg | methinks dpkg.web.search is A Frontend to the dpkg irc bot and the factoids database at @ http://dpkg.vireo.org |
| 00:33.56 | superjoe | oops sorry Supaplex |
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| 00:34.40 | silarstein | it happened again |
| 00:34.45 | themill | prahal: "latex foo.tex" still produces a dvi file |
| 00:34.56 | silarstein | I did shutdow and it stopped in the middle |
| 00:35.08 | Statutory_Ape | in the middle of what? |
| 00:35.09 | prahal | themill, not on sid ... because it points to pdftex ... |
| 00:35.15 | silarstein | saying blabla Give root password for maintanance |
| 00:35.21 | Statutory_Ape | yeh, its ok to shutdown now |
| 00:35.34 | silarstein | huh? |
| 00:35.36 | Statutory_Ape | you should probably start shutdown with -h |
| 00:35.46 | silarstein | so it is normal? |
| 00:35.46 | prahal | themill, could you tell me the output of ls -l /usr/bin/latex on your box so I could find out the proper command to output dvi ? |
| 00:35.49 | Statutory_Ape | silarstein, yes |
| 00:35.51 | Statutory_Ape | quite normal |
| 00:35.58 | silarstein | o |
| 00:36.02 | Statutory_Ape | silarstein, new to linux? |
| 00:36.05 | silarstein | so ^D? |
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| 00:36.54 | Statutory_Ape | silarstein, what u trying to do? |
| 00:37.02 | silarstein | shutdown |
| 00:37.07 | silarstein | I did |
| 00:37.09 | silarstein | shutdown now |
| 00:37.26 | Statutory_Ape | you trying to power off the system? |
| 00:37.30 | silarstein | yes |
| 00:37.32 | Statutory_Ape | just use poweroff |
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| 00:37.40 | silarstein | ah |
| 00:37.53 | prahal | or maybe I misread something ... though kile tells dvi generated in the output but if I check the log it tells me pdf generated |
| 00:37.54 | Statutory_Ape | silarstein, man shutdown |
| 00:38.44 | themill | prahal: it's pdftex on lenny too and latex foo.tex works just fine for producing a dvi. Perhaps your tex source is broken... |
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| 00:39.08 | Seven_Six_Two | oh I see. It's because there doesn't seem to be a new modutils... |
| 00:39.11 | mumia-w-19 | For some reason, editing /etc/network/interfaces did not work. The device bnep0 still comes up without an IP address. Here is what I put in to "interfaces": http://debian.pastebin.com/d2fd126a0 |
| 00:39.37 | prahal | hum I am pretty confident it is broken now . Thanks that s put me back on trail |
| 00:40.34 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, what happens on ifup bnep0 |
| 00:40.34 | Statutory_Ape | ? |
| 00:40.34 | themill | prahal: there are minimal changes between lenny and sid in the texlive packages at this stage. |
| 00:42.00 | goauld | mumia-w-19: you need this two lines |
| 00:42.05 | goauld | auto lo |
| 00:42.06 | goauld | iface lo inet loopback |
| 00:42.08 | mumia-w-19 | Yes, there it is! The IP address is there :-) But can I get that to happen automatically? |
| 00:42.08 | mumia-w-19 | Hmm, |
| 00:42.08 | mumia-w-19 | Hmm, I'll try to put "ifup bnep0" into "interfaces." |
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| 00:42.15 | silarstein | k |
| 00:42.37 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, wont work |
| 00:42.55 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, it should take effect if you use auto bnep0 |
| 00:43.16 | mumia-w-19 | Strange, I already have "auto bnep0" in there. |
| 00:43.35 | Statutory_Ape | if not, i think auto definitely is used by uhm... what was it uh.. /etc/init.d/networking restart or start whatever |
| 00:43.49 | Statutory_Ape | mumia-w-19, strange then its something I'm missing |
| 00:43.58 | Statutory_Ape | was pretty sure 'auto' directive took care of that |
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| 00:44.34 | mumia-w-19 | That's what I hoped too. |
| 00:44.40 | Statutory_Ape | hm |
| 00:44.40 | prahal | themill, it was . I replaced all the pdftex in \usepackage by dvips . |
| 00:44.45 | prahal | thanks |
| 00:44.50 | Statutory_Ape | goauld, is the loopback iface supposed to be present? |
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| 00:45.07 | Statutory_Ape | goauld, what if you don't have a loopback and just the the physical iface configured |
| 00:45.18 | Statutory_Ape | what happens then? does the computer blow up ? ;) |
| 00:45.25 | goauld | without a loopback nothing works |
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| 00:45.52 | Statutory_Ape | why is that? |
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| 00:46.30 | goauld | its been lot of years since that happen to me, just dont remember, but i was really fucked up because of not having loopback configure |
| 00:46.32 | goauld | configured |
| 00:46.36 | Statutory_Ape | hmm |
| 00:46.49 | goauld | almost all programs stoped working properly |
| 00:46.51 | jnewt | anyone know which ports / rules to apply to shorewall so that it doesn't shut down my dhcp server (on same machine.) |
| 00:46.56 | goauld | test it if you dont believe me |
| 00:46.58 | WX_0 | Statutory_Ape: There's many examples where a loopback is needed |
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| 00:47.02 | Statutory_Ape | its not amatter of believing |
| 00:47.08 | Statutory_Ape | its a matter of tryign to find out why |
| 00:47.22 | WX_0 | Statutory_Ape: When a program attempts to contact the PC itself (e.g.: 127.0.0.1), that's where the loopback is needed |
| 00:47.26 | Statutory_Ape | been using linux sincd 1994 and I never knew that |
| 00:47.29 | goauld | ok, if you figure out tell me |
| 00:47.38 | goauld | me too |
| 00:47.42 | WX_0 | Windows also has a loopback interface |
| 00:47.44 | goauld | i started with debian potato |
| 00:47.55 | Statutory_Ape | WX_0, i know that much, I meant to say why is it mandatory |
| 00:48.13 | WX_0 | Statutory_Ape: Most applications make use of that interface, hence being required.. |
| 00:48.21 | Statutory_Ape | i see |
| 00:48.52 | WX_0 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loopback |
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| 00:49.10 | WX_0 | The Wiki lists 4 great examples of why the LB may be needed |
| 00:49.55 | WX_0 | As you'll see, it's usually used for testing purposes |
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| 00:50.41 | Statutory_Ape | I see |
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| 00:51.54 | Statutory_Ape | Thanks |
| 00:52.39 | Statutory_Ape | I'm bored |
| 00:52.44 | Statutory_Ape | dpkg, entertain me |
| 00:52.45 | dpkg | "Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. The first atom turns to the second and says "I think I'm missing an electron", the second asks "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yeah, I'm positive" |
| 00:52.55 | Statutory_Ape | lol |
| 00:53.08 | goauld | lol |
| 00:53.10 | Rienzilla | omg |
| 00:53.11 | Rienzilla | lol |
| 00:53.18 | Rienzilla | that is so bad it's funny :) |
| 00:53.20 | abrotman | maybe you should go work on your package ? |
| 00:53.22 | Rienzilla | dpkg, entertain me |
| 00:53.23 | dpkg | "Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. The first atom turns to the second and says "I think I'm missing an electron", the second asks "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yeah, I'm positive" |
| 00:53.34 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, ehh.. not right now |
| 00:54.01 | Sazpaimon | http://pastebin.com/m200f0dc7 can someone tell me what is causing these messages to appear and make my server unresponsive? |
| 00:54.11 | abrotman | Sazpaimon: it looks like your server is crashing |
| 00:54.19 | Statutory_Ape | I figured I'd upload two packages when I'm done, php-gtk2 and php-qt4 |
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| 00:54.33 | abrotman | sure sure .. |
| 00:54.43 | abrotman | Sazpaimon: any other messages in your syslog ? |
| 00:54.46 | goauld | is it right to do a rsync backup of a full / ? will work the restore? |
| 00:54.50 | Rienzilla | Sazpaimon: if I see stuff like that on a stable os i'm pointing at faulty hardware |
| 00:54.51 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, did you hear the news |
| 00:55.00 | abrotman | i'm sure it's offtopic if i haven't |
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| 00:55.11 | Statutory_Ape | abrotman, I had a robbery, everything apart from my broken screen laptop |
| 00:55.15 | abrotman | goauld: there are some directories you don't want to copy |
| 00:55.18 | abrotman | yep .. offtopic |
| 00:55.18 | Statutory_Ape | so everything I've done is lost |
| 00:55.25 | Statutory_Ape | it is, but sad too |
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| 00:56.08 | Statutory_Ape | I was pretty bummed, just like with SMC last year |
| 00:56.19 | abrotman | yes, still offtopic |
| 00:56.30 | Statutory_Ape | but at least this time I own the ITP so doesn't matter how long it takes now, I still got it |
| 00:56.52 | Sazpaimon | abrotman, no my syslog has nothing from what i saw in my serial console |
| 00:56.56 | Sazpaimon | ive since rebooted the machine |
| 00:57.04 | abrotman | Sazpaimon: so it only happened once ? |
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| 00:59.16 | betz | how can i see all the processes that are running? |
| 00:59.44 | abrotman | ps aux |
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| 01:01.03 | Sazpaimon | abrotman, the long string of messages? No its happened before |
| 01:01.13 | Sazpaimon | not regularly though, just enough to make me concerned |
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| 01:11.11 | ninjaslim | which mailing list is associated with bugs.debian.org |
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| 01:18.04 | mumia-w-19 | Avahi is responsible for recognizing my bluetooth network connection. I need to get avahi to run a command (ifup bnep0) when an interface comes up. How do I do that? |
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| 01:24.43 | cire | Anyone using egroupware with cyrus/sasl/ldap? |
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| 01:25.50 | mumia-w-19 | I had a connection problem before. I hope no one saw this question before, anyway here goes: |
| 01:25.52 | mumia-w-19 | Avahi is responsible for recognizing my bluetooth network connection. I need to get avahi to run a command (ifup bnep0) when an interface comes up. How do I do that? |
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| 01:33.46 | Jackaruto | Is there anyway to over-ride the security of the remote desktop so I can vnc in to the gui without having to get some to roll a cart with a kvm switich or to the rack and log on to tty7? |
| 01:34.26 | Mox` | hi, which webserver should be the best? nginx, apache or lighttpd? I only need one domain hosted with url rewrite, which one shoult I choose? |
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| 01:34.47 | Seven_Six_Two | Jackaruto, like xdmcp chooser? |
| 01:35.16 | Jackaruto | Seven_Six_Two, I'm not in the know on xdmcp chooser |
| 01:35.23 | Jackaruto | I'll go google thanks |
| 01:35.28 | Seven_Six_Two | Jackaruto, np |
| 01:36.37 | Sebi | hi folks, what's the way updated packages have to go? |
| 01:37.37 | Sebi | because i read in http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=petere%40debian.org that egroupware is "new: 1.6.001+dfsg-2" but i can't find that on the server |
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| 01:38.19 | Sebi | meaning it's not yet on ftp.$CC.debian.org/debian/pool/... |
| 01:38.20 | abrotman | Sebi: probably new in unstable |
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| 01:38.42 | abrotman | oh .. guess not |
| 01:39.27 | Sebi | if you hover on the "new", you can see that the commit is 2 days old... |
| 01:39.58 | abrotman | Sebi: oh, that's in unstable |
| 01:40.04 | abrotman | erm ... in experimental |
| 01:40.17 | Sebi | dfsg-1 is in exp |
| 01:41.00 | Sebi | that version has a bug, so i wanted to upgrade to this new version dfsg-2, which should be 2 days old |
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| 01:41.23 | abrotman | http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/egroupware_1.6.001+dfsg-2.html |
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| 01:43.19 | Sebi | hm, what does this page mean? |
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| 01:43.35 | Sebi | i'm not really that much into debian, sry |
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| 01:46.06 | abrotman | Sebi: it means it's waiting for approval |
| 01:46.11 | Seven_Six_Two | Jackaruto, it's really slick. I use it to admin my family's comps |
| 01:46.36 | Sebi | ah, ok, thanks |
| 01:46.57 | abrotman | Sebi: it's only been there two days .. some stuff has been there two months .. no telling when it will get in |
| 01:46.58 | Sebi | i.e. the file can pop up every minute, but likely tomorrow |
| 01:47.13 | Sebi | ok.. |
| 01:47.35 | Sebi | i thought, unstable would be easier to get in... |
| 01:47.35 | cire | Sebi: you are using egroupware? |
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| 01:47.42 | Sebi | moreorless |
| 01:47.48 | Sebi | cire, moreorless |
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| 01:48.09 | abrotman | Sebi: it just kind of depends when the ftpmasters get to it .. someone might do it in 10 minutes .. |
| 01:48.15 | cire | cyrus doesn't automatically create mail accounts here. |
| 01:48.29 | Sebi | cire: starting to play around for personal use, later i want to deploy it for ca. 1000 users |
| 01:48.39 | cire | same here, without the deploy |
| 01:48.42 | cire | ;) |
| 01:48.54 | Sebi | cire: you have a problem with coecting to the mail accounts? |
| 01:49.02 | Sebi | connecting* |
| 01:49.02 | cire | yes. |
| 01:49.07 | cire | They don't get created automatically |
| 01:49.28 | Sebi | the user for the email is the user for the egroupware |
| 01:49.32 | Sebi | so is the password |
| 01:49.32 | abrotman | Sebi: i'm guessing that it's a large change in the package .. might take some review |
| 01:49.54 | Sebi | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 01:50.07 | cire | in emailadmin, I stated "cyrus" and the cyrus admin's pass, and login works (says auth.log) |
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| 01:50.26 | cire | But there are nio mailboxes. Do you use this feature? |
| 01:50.40 | cire | (cyrus administration through egroupware) |
| 01:50.41 | Sebi | cire: i.e. egroupware-user: johndoe, egw:pass: johnpass |
| 01:51.09 | Sebi | then there must exist a mail ccount with also user johndoe with pass johnpass |
| 01:51.23 | Sebi | cyrus admin: no |
| 01:51.26 | silarstein | when I do lvscan I see my lvm disk, but it is inactive and not mountable |
| 01:51.34 | cire | ahh, okay |
| 01:51.34 | Sebi | not yet |
| 01:51.38 | silarstein | this from a live CD |
| 01:51.45 | silarstein | anyone knows what to do? |
| 01:51.52 | cire | I can add those accounts manually, but I 'd love to create them automatically |
| 01:51.54 | Sebi | but you got what i meant regarding the mailboxes? |
| 01:52.00 | cire | yes |
| 01:52.02 | cire | ;) |
| 01:52.07 | Sebi | (found it out 2 hours ago ^^) |
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| 01:52.22 | Sebi | (all hail goes to tcpdump) |
| 01:52.30 | cire | What are your main ressources for learning egroupware administration? |
| 01:52.40 | cire | I think there's not too much doc |
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| 01:53.11 | Sebi | so perhaps you should combine egw-login with email-login somehow |
| 01:53.33 | Sebi | ressources: primarily trial & error, and a bit of common sense |
| 01:54.03 | Sebi | the docs aren't that much of a help |
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| 01:54.33 | silarstein | ok got it nvm |
| 01:54.44 | Sebi | but given the coders say: it's open source, and we do support for money, i think that's reasonable enough |
| 01:54.46 | cire | I login against LDAP |
| 01:54.49 | ninjaslim | can somebody please tell me which mailing list is associated with bugs.debian.org, i keep getting stupid bug reports that i do not want |
| 01:54.54 | cire | and cyrus also uses ldap (via sasl) |
| 01:55.00 | cire | login seems to work fine |
| 01:55.00 | Sebi | nods. |
| 01:55.19 | Sebi | i didn't do that step yet |
| 01:55.50 | Sebi | that's one of the next |
| 01:55.55 | cire | It seemed logical to me |
| 01:56.06 | cire | to do all this via ldap |
| 01:56.07 | abrotman | ninjaslim: were you the original reporter? |
| 01:56.32 | abrotman | ninjaslim: or you mean *all* the bugs? |
| 01:56.38 | Sebi | right now, the mail server is fed it's data via imap |
| 01:57.04 | cire | right at the moment I do not have any mail. I just need those accounts first ;) |
| 01:57.06 | Sebi | (primarily because the mailserver maintainer doesn't know anything about ldap, i presume) |
| 01:57.43 | abrotman | ninjaslim: if it's a mailing list, there should be unsubscribe instructions at the bottom ? |
| 01:57.46 | Sebi | (mysql for the masses ^^) |
| 01:57.58 | cire | hrhr |
| 01:58.32 | cire | I love how ldap handles the items. It's perfect for authentification. |
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| 01:58.41 | Sebi | definitely |
| 01:58.59 | Sebi | you _want_ ldap to have your user data |
| 01:59.09 | cire | yeah |
| 01:59.15 | ninjaslim | abrotman: i'm getting all bugs and i never responded to anything just subscribed to some mailing lists then aunsubscribed from all to get rid of this list |
| 01:59.19 | Sebi | and for databases, you should use postgresql |
| 01:59.25 | PeskyJ | is it possible to set up aliases (like in .bashrc) for a user without a shell set, so they are present when you su to that user? |
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| 01:59.33 | cire | ack |
| 01:59.43 | abrotman | PeskyJ: like system-wide ? |
| 01:59.52 | cire | okay. I'll continue with my issue. Thanks for the information, Sebi |
| 01:59.52 | Sebi | (or oracle, ifyou have the money and resources ^^) |
| 02:00.00 | PeskyJ | abrotman: no just for one user |
| 02:00.01 | cire | I don't have them ;) |
| 02:00.10 | Sebi | np, have a good time and see you again |
| 02:00.30 | cire | you too |
| 02:00.32 | abrotman | PeskyJ: but they don't have a shell? |
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| 02:00.49 | Sebi | perhaps we cna exchange infos and solutions again regarding egw |
| 02:01.27 | PeskyJ | abrotman: yeah.. I know... I often su to my svn user though to create repositories and configure user access in .ssh - would be nice to have aliases set up |
| 02:01.27 | abrotman | or all meet back here in two weeks! |
| 02:02.05 | Sebi | abrotman: thanks for the info before |
| 02:02.58 | PeskyJ | abrotman: I even tried executing an aliases file manually after su but that didn't work, I think possibly because alias is a shell command rather than a program |
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| 02:05.02 | abrotman | PeskyJ: yes, a builtin |
| 02:07.01 | betz | hmm, i can't seem to move a file by command that has multiple . (dots) in the filename. Like file.name.cd1.avi anyone knows what to do then? |
| 02:07.13 | betz | there's also a [ and a ' in the filename :s |
| 02:07.14 | abrotman | quote it ? |
| 02:07.21 | PeskyJ | abrotman: no way to get it working then? typing alias works... but executing an alias file doesn't - I guess the aliases aren't inherited from the shell that executed su either, but environment seems to be |
| 02:07.30 | \amethyst | betz: backslash the [ and the ', or surround the whole thing in double quotes |
| 02:07.45 | \amethyst | doesn't make any difference |
| 02:07.46 | \amethyst | doh |
| 02:08.14 | prahal | how one make a ^ character under kile ... I am struggling with this one (typing twice on the touch with the symbol does work in all applications I have tried except kile ) |
| 02:08.34 | betz | ah \amethyst thanks, that did the job |
| 02:08.43 | prahal | probably a local problem as I got it to work for a short while though I got the issue on two boxes |
| 02:08.46 | Seth_Hikaru | Who wants to guess how loud my blade server is sitting right next to me? |
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| 02:09.17 | Seth_Hikaru | Anyone? |
| 02:09.28 | PeskyJ | Seth_Hikaru: silent? |
| 02:09.36 | Seth_Hikaru | Louder than ****! |
| 02:09.56 | Sebi | deafening you for a lifetime? |
| 02:10.11 | Seth_Hikaru | No but I don't know how I am going to sleep at night in my room. |
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| 02:10.17 | Seth_Hikaru | I have no other place to put it. |
| 02:10.20 | abrotman | turn it off |
| 02:10.25 | Seth_Hikaru | Why? |
| 02:10.33 | abrotman | doctor, it hurts when i ... |
| 02:10.45 | Seth_Hikaru | turn your server on? |
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| 02:11.24 | Seth_Hikaru | But seriously how can I make it quieter? |
| 02:11.29 | Seth_Hikaru | Anyone have a clue? |
| 02:11.30 | abrotman | you can't .. turn it off |
| 02:11.35 | Seth_Hikaru | No. |
| 02:11.40 | abrotman | then quit whining here |
| 02:11.50 | Seth_Hikaru | The fans still run but not all of them. |
| 02:11.58 | Seth_Hikaru | It's much quieter though. |
| 02:12.22 | PeskyJ | Seth_Hikaru: you could take all the fans out and the hard drives and use a USB stick for the writable storage and boot media |
| 02:12.42 | Seth_Hikaru | Processor genius? |
| 02:12.49 | PeskyJ | let it melt |
| 02:12.50 | Seth_Hikaru | That will go poof. |
| 02:13.11 | Seth_Hikaru | WTF stupid if that happens it can't boot or write to anything. |
| 02:13.20 | PeskyJ | you'll be able to sleep though |
| 02:13.37 | PeskyJ | alternatively you could find a hosting solution, they're pretty cheap these days |
| 02:13.48 | Seth_Hikaru | No not knowing that I have destroyed my server processor. |
| 02:13.48 | Seth_Hikaru | NO. |
| 02:13.56 | Seth_Hikaru | They can't offer VPN and other stuff. |
| 02:14.03 | \amethyst | err |
| 02:14.08 | Seth_Hikaru | For free. |
| 02:14.11 | \amethyst | oh |
| 02:14.13 | Seth_Hikaru | I'm not paying. |
| 02:14.14 | PeskyJ | buy a mac mini.. they're quiet |
| 02:14.35 | Seth_Hikaru | Yes I actually want somthing that was meant to be a server. |
| 02:14.41 | Seth_Hikaru | And no I hate macs. |
| 02:14.43 | \amethyst | so don't put it in your bedroom |
| 02:14.55 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
| 02:15.06 | PeskyJ | this is a really dumb conversation |
| 02:15.21 | Seth_Hikaru | Where do you suggest I put it I'm in what was my sisters bedroom and I told my mom I would have my old room no matter what but shes in it. |
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| 02:15.53 | PeskyJ | abrotman: so no ideas for the aliases then? or is using su to do stuff with the svn user a bad idea in the first place? |
| 02:15.57 | Seth_Hikaru | Otherwise I would have run my network cable through a small hole between the bedrooms and put it in there. |
| 02:16.09 | prahal | Seth_Hikaru, upstair or in the ceilar |
| 02:16.15 | abrotman | Seth_Hikaru: How is this a Debian problem? |
| 02:16.25 | abrotman | PeskyJ: are you changing shells ? |
| 02:16.31 | Seth_Hikaru | Sadly I don't have either one of those places in my house. |
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| 02:16.36 | Seth_Hikaru | It's a trailer house. |
| 02:16.46 | abrotman | Seth_Hikaru: stop already |
| 02:16.47 | PeskyJ | abrotman: not sure what you mean by that... the svn user doesn't have a shell set at all |
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| 02:17.20 | abrotman | PeskyJ: hrm .. i wonder if there's an option for su |
| 02:17.21 | Seth_Hikaru | Well can debian display the installation screen over network? |
| 02:18.29 | PeskyJ | abrotman: "su svn -" doesn't seem to do the trick |
| 02:18.37 | abrotman | i didn't mean that option |
| 02:18.48 | \amethyst | PeskyJ: when you su to a user without a shell, su uses /bin/sh |
| 02:19.04 | \amethyst | PeskyJ: so if you do su - svn it should run the user's .profile |
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| 02:20.09 | abrotman | \amethyst: but if the user doesn't have a .profile or .bash_profile (assuming /bin/sh goes to /bin/bash) .. |
| 02:20.17 | \amethyst | you can set ENV |
| 02:20.20 | PeskyJ | aha :) |
| 02:20.29 | PeskyJ | the - needs to come before the user |
| 02:20.52 | \amethyst | abrotman: though it won't use .bash_profile anyway (bash doesn't read .bash_profile or .bashrc when invoked as 'sh') |
| 02:20.59 | merlincorey | how can I remove a failed-config package (this box is etch); I've tried with apt remove/purge and dpkg remove/purge. Can't see anything useful in dpkg --force-help |
| 02:21.02 | abrotman | whichever |
| 02:21.06 | Seth_Hikaru | Can Debian display the installation screen over network? |
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| 02:21.09 | merlincorey | also hello folks been a minute :) |
| 02:21.23 | merlincorey | Seth_Hikaru: yes somewhat there is a "continue installation over SSH" in expert install |
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| 02:22.07 | PeskyJ | \amethyst: yeah.. using the '-' option did the trick.. it executes my .bashrc - just when I tried it before I put it after the user name and that doesn't work |
| 02:22.14 | PeskyJ | \amethyst: thanks :) |
| 02:22.20 | Seth_Hikaru | Nice but is there a way to boot up the cd and have it install automaticall because I have no monitor for my server to see the installation process. |
| 02:22.37 | abrotman | oh that's right .. vga output, dvi only guy ... |
| 02:22.38 | \amethyst | Seth_Hikaru: yes, with preseeding |
| 02:22.50 | abrotman | !ssh install |
| 02:22.50 | dpkg | well, ssh install is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-miscellaneous, or [obsolete] http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html See also <debootstrap>. |
| 02:22.59 | merlincorey | Seth_Hikaru: afaik not with the default CD set but you could use another box to figure out the keysequence to get to SSH :) |
| 02:23.04 | Seth_Hikaru | So bascially network boot? |
| 02:23.04 | \amethyst | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apb.html |
| 02:23.33 | |shad0w| | anyone familiar with ucf. During our automated installs I update grubs menu.lst before the apt updates and I'm looking for the best way to get ucf to recognize the "local" changes. |
| 02:23.36 | \amethyst | you can do this with CD boot or USB boot, too |
| 02:23.55 | \amethyst | you specify the source of the preseed file at the boot prompt |
| 02:24.12 | |shad0w| | otherwise scripted updates hang when the dialog box opens to "merge changes" |
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| 02:24.36 | merlincorey | ah yes, \amethyst is quite correct; usb install makes it much easier to automate |
| 02:24.38 | Seth_Hikaru | Do they make watercooling for servers? |
| 02:24.43 | \amethyst | if you have DHCP, you can even specify a URL; otherwise you'll need to put the preseed file onto the instalation media |
| 02:24.52 | merlincorey | Seth_Hikaru: why would you want watercooling for server? |
| 02:24.59 | merlincorey | so you could kill all the other servers? |
| 02:25.02 | merlincorey | [when it breaks] |
| 02:25.07 | Seth_Hikaru | So I wouldn't have to listen to the noisy fans. |
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| 02:25.19 | merlincorey | why do you care? it's in a rack in a datacenter |
| 02:25.21 | \amethyst | merlincorey: because he has a blade server in his (small) house |
| 02:25.24 | Seth_Hikaru | No because it's just a single server sitting on my desk. |
| 02:25.34 | abrotman | Seth_Hikaru: stop already .. it's getting old |
| 02:25.38 | merlincorey | oh then you should have built a carpet server maybe? |
| 02:25.48 | Seth_Hikaru | carpet server? |
| 02:25.55 | \amethyst | that's an idea |
| 02:26.08 | Seth_Hikaru | I have absoulety no idea what that is. |
| 02:26.49 | \amethyst | cover the (non ventilation parts of the) case in carpet? |
| 02:27.07 | Seth_Hikaru | Why? |
| 02:28.04 | \amethyst | soundproofing, though I guess carpet doesn't really help reduce transmission, just reflection |
| 02:28.10 | \amethyst | a large box with baffles? |
| 02:29.06 | comradekingu | Will help to diffuse the higher pitch noise fan |
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| 02:29.19 | |shad0w| | bigger slower fans help quite a bit too |
| 02:29.30 | abrotman | or go ask ##hardware |
| 02:29.42 | comradekingu | Personally i run passive components, scythe makes a few good coolers. (I have had a watercooled server in the past) |
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| 02:33.20 | betz | Anyone knows how to make a multifile rar archive from command line? |
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| 02:36.09 | keith4_ | ugh. the timer frequency is 250 Hz in linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686 |
| 02:36.37 | keith4_ | I need to rebuild the kernel and change that to 1000 Hz, and add HPET support. Where can I get the source for the xen kernels? |
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| 02:38.36 | abrotman | keith4_: for a game server? |
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| 02:39.20 | keith4_ | abrotman, for running asterisk in the dom0 |
| 02:39.31 | abrotman | keith4_: you get the linux-source package |
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| 02:39.37 | abrotman | or you apt-get source |
| 02:39.38 | Mox` | keith4 HPET support? |
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| 02:40.05 | keith4_ | abrotman, how do I Xen-ify it, though? |
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| 02:47.20 | abrotman | keith4_: if you apt-get source linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686 .. you'll find the config |
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| 02:48.43 | debclair | has somebody coded using the Monodevelop IDE? |
| 02:51.07 | keith4_ | abrotman, when I run that, it looks like it just gets me stock 2.6.26 source. so, I'm taking this to mean that xen is in the stock kernel? |
| 02:51.23 | nareshov | !ask |
| 02:51.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 02:51.24 | keith4_ | also, I'm running that stock kernel now, so I believe the config is in /boot/config-2.6.26-1-xen-686 |
| 02:51.45 | abrotman | keith4_: okay .. then don't believe me ... |
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| 02:53.01 | keith4_ | abrotman, is /boot/config-2.6.26-1-xen-686 not the same as the config in the bzip that results from apt-get source linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686 |
| 02:53.02 | keith4_ | ? |
| 02:53.39 | abrotman | not sure, i don't have that running here |
| 02:53.43 | abrotman | i would assume so |
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| 02:54.57 | keith4_ | abrotman, ok. i'll double check |
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| 02:58.07 | keith4_ | abrotman, am I wrong in thinking that "make oldconfig" in the source from "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686" should build the same kernel that i'm running now? (give that i'm running 2.6.26-1-xen-686) |
| 02:58.33 | abrotman | !source |
| 02:58.33 | dpkg | To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space. As root: 'aptitude install build-essential fakeroot devscripts' and 'apt-get build-dep {packagename}'. As any user: 'apt-get source {packagename}', cd into the directory it creates, edit 'debian/rules' to suit, run 'debuild -us -uc'. You need deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list for apt-get source to work. Ask me about <deb-src>. |
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| 03:02.37 | RiotingPacifist` | i just used module-assistant to install madwifi drivers, but modprobe cant find them :S the files are definatly in /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/ though |
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| 03:09.03 | Mousey | riot: whats wrong with ath5k drivers which should be included with the kernel as of 2.6.26 |
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| 03:09.27 | Mousey | RiotingPacifist`: whats wrong with ath5k drivers which should be included with the kernel as of 2.6.26 |
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| 03:14.29 | RiotingPacifist` | Mousey: they're dropping far to many packets the internet is unusable in my room where it used to be fine, although it seams better now the madwifi drivers are installed (but not in use :s) |
| 03:15.01 | keith4_ | what's the difference between "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.26" and "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.26" ? |
| 03:15.03 | RiotingPacifist` | erm sorry about that i ironically dropped off just after saying that ath5k was causing problems |
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| 03:18.29 | betz | Anyone knows how to make a multifile rar archive from command line? |
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| 03:21.26 | \amethyst | betz: rar a foo.rar directory but you need the 'rar' package from non-free |
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| 03:22.11 | keith4_ | ugh. rar |
| 03:22.25 | keith4_ | the bane of people trolling newsgroups everywhere |
| 03:22.47 | RiotingPacifist` | is a mutlifile rar archive different to a rar that is piped through split? |
| 03:22.54 | \amethyst | Oh |
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| 03:23.00 | \amethyst | that kind of 'multifile' |
| 03:25.38 | \amethyst | rar -v1024k a foo.rar directory to make a bunch of 1 MiB files |
| 03:25.51 | \amethyst | there are also some options about 'solid volumes', but I don't know rar |
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| 03:29.42 | gaintsura | if I took a drive that had the installed os on it and move it to a whole new system, would I have to do anything extra to get it to work again? |
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| 03:31.15 | sparr | gaintsura: if all of your OS partitions are on that drive, no. if not, youll need to recreate/mount the partitions that arent |
| 03:31.39 | sparr | my /home is on a separate drive, i would need to change fstab if i moved my / drive to a new machine |
| 03:31.48 | gaintsura | all of them are on that drive, I'll be adding more partitions when I move it/if I move it |
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| 03:32.29 | Mox` | hmm is there something like eAccelerator for nginx? |
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| 03:36.03 | sparr | nginx? |
| 03:36.33 | gaintsura | sparr: will debian automatically pickup the differences in the systems and change accordingly? |
| 03:37.07 | sparr | gaintsura: some yes, some no. you will probably need to reconfigure the x server to detect new video and input settings for x |
| 03:37.18 | sparr | it will almost certainly boot to a working terminal |
| 03:37.19 | gaintsura | no x =D |
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| 03:37.57 | cr3 | anyone happen to know which /proc/cpuinfo flag signifies support for 64bit? |
| 03:38.30 | cr3 | hm, googling returned the answer more easily than I though. sorry folks, lm was apparently the flag I was looking for |
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| 03:46.27 | keith4_ | does anyone know the easiest/best/official/whatever way to build a kernel that is identical to the stock debian kernel, but with 2 minor changes? |
| 03:46.46 | keith4_ | i've found lots of conflicting information. i'm trying to follow this: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 03:54.27 | gaintsura | how can I get a full system report, size of drives, ram, etc? |
| 03:54.45 | \amethyst | gaintsura: lshal maybe |
| 03:54.56 | gaintsura | not found |
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| 03:55.47 | pgs | phpsysinfo if it's running a web server |
| 03:56.10 | \amethyst | gaintsura: it's part of the package 'hal', though you might not want to install that just to get the info |
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| 03:57.11 | gaintsura | pgs: phpsysinfo? never heard of that one |
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| 03:57.17 | gaintsura | \amethyst: no, I don't think so |
| 03:57.38 | OldMonk | gaintsura: if you're a php fan |
| 03:58.00 | gaintsura | I am a phpfan, but I've not seen phpsysinfo |
| 03:58.10 | OldMonk | gaintsura: it's probably a function |
| 03:58.46 | pgs | http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:59.12 | NiLon | don't allow that to public tho, it's resource eater |
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| 03:59.46 | OldMonk | i'd rather install hal than php to get system info :) |
| 03:59.49 | gaintsura | pgs: phpsysinfo is also a package on debian, no need for the link, but thanks =) |
| 03:59.57 | gaintsura | OldMonk: php is already installed =) |
| 03:59.58 | \amethyst | gaintsura: there's the hwinfo package, but it has to be run as root |
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| 04:00.54 | \amethyst | gaintsura: or, rather, it can be run as non-root, but might not provide as much info---and it's in /usr/sbin so it won't be in the path |
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| 04:07.11 | arvind_ | hi, i am on lenny, i wanted to use youtube-dl, how do i get it, its not there in repos |
| 04:07.56 | \amethyst | arvind_: the sid package for youtube-dl should be installable in lenny, since it has only one dependency and that's satisfied in lenny |
| 04:08.40 | arvind_ | \amethyst, ok :) so do i add that repo or just download it as .deb ? |
| 04:08.44 | OldMonk | [ot] i'm pretty impressed with gnash 0.8.4 -- seems to play most videos i've come across, even if choppy and slow |
| 04:08.57 | OldMonk | not that i've come across more than, say, 10 videos in the past month |
| 04:09.18 | \amethyst | arvind_: I'd just download the deb |
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| 04:09.53 | \amethyst | arvind_: by adding the repository you risk accidentally upgrading to sid in the future |
| 04:10.37 | OldMonk | ...unless you pin them properly |
| 04:12.01 | arvind_ | \amethyst, ya ... thanks :) |
| 04:12.25 | arvind_ | \amethyst, btw any way to get the latest kernel working in lenny? |
| 04:12.37 | cb88 | lol... just figured out there is no "apt-build" repo... i am officially stupid XD |
| 04:13.32 | keith4_ | does order matter in the kernel config file? |
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| 04:25.03 | Rebbe | hi, i can't find md5deep in repos. Is there something better? |
| 04:25.17 | OldMonk | what's md5deep? |
| 04:25.39 | arvind_ | !find md5deep |
| 04:25.43 | dpkg | md5deep: (Recursively compute hashsums or piecewise hashings), section utils, is optional. Version: 3.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 158 kB, Installed size: 384 kB |
| 04:26.08 | arvind_ | Rebbe, which version of debian ? |
| 04:26.14 | Rebbe | lenny |
| 04:26.20 | arvind_ | !find md5deep in lenny |
| 04:26.26 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'md5deep in' returned no results. |
| 04:26.33 | Rebbe | it allows to scan fs and make fingerprints of every file |
| 04:26.39 | Rebbe | so i can track changes |
| 04:26.43 | simonrvn | drop the ' in' |
| 04:26.48 | arvind_ | Rebbe, you would have to use the one from sid repo's |
| 04:27.11 | Rebbe | ok, it's not a problem, i just curious if nobody need it |
| 04:27.15 | arvind_ | !find md5deep lenny |
| 04:27.21 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'md5deep' returned no results. |
| 04:28.03 | Mox` | spawn-fcgi: child exited with: 126 <- how to fix this error? :S |
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| 04:29.09 | simonrvn | asking in different channels is not going to help anyone. how about more info? |
| 04:29.25 | simonrvn | !tell Mox` -about ask |
| 04:29.29 | simonrvn | !tell Mox` -about repeat |
| 04:29.35 | simonrvn | !tell Mox` -about smart questions |
| 04:29.41 | Mox` | ? |
| 04:30.15 | simonrvn | read what the bot told you, thank you |
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| 04:32.07 | avu | BTW, I see people use '-about' instead of plain 'about' all the time, yet the bot's help message suggests that the effect is the same. What gives? |
| 04:32.49 | simonrvn | doesn't send you the entire thing, just "told foo about bar" |
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| 04:32.58 | simonrvn | <dpkg> told Mox` about ask. |
| 04:33.09 | avu | ah, that's nice, thanks. |
| 04:33.17 | OldMonk | ar all dpkg command documented somewhere apart from the help? |
| 04:33.19 | amitz | how can I get the man for fork()? What package to install? |
| 04:33.22 | amitz | debian lenny |
| 04:33.29 | \amethyst | amitz: manpages-dev |
| 04:33.31 | avu | amitz, manpages-dev |
| 04:33.37 | beardy | What they said. |
| 04:33.39 | amitz | ah, thanks all |
| 04:33.40 | \amethyst | amitz: also posix-manpages-dev for the standards documentation |
| 04:33.53 | \amethyst | amitz: err, manpages-posix-dev |
| 04:34.02 | amitz | oh, i see \amethyst |
| 04:34.07 | \amethyst | (in non-free) |
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| 04:35.05 | \amethyst | man 2 fork (manpages-dev) will tell you what fork does in Linux; man 3posix fork (manpages-posix-dev) will tell you what you can portably rely on |
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| 04:36.19 | amitz | \amethyst: I see. |
| 04:38.17 | merlincorey | so not sure if anyone answered earlier or not (didn't see a highlight)... but how do I remove a package from dpkg in the Failed-config state? everytime I try to remove or purge it it fails because of the config script failing, but I can't find anything in --force-help which would let me skip configuration... what am I missing? |
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| 04:55.35 | gigo | after full-upgrade of squeeze yesterday, mcs command is no longer working. (This is the mono compiler i had installed long before) |
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| 05:03.18 | unlink | Where do I find package maintainers to package my software for Debian? |
| 05:04.36 | simonrvn | file RFP bug for it |
| 05:06.17 | johnrw | does ssh-agent use my login when it exchanges keys? |
| 05:07.07 | beardy | johnrw: Your user name you mean? Yes.. if so. |
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| 05:08.42 | Rebbe | what do you think anout arno-iptables-firewall package and what personally do you use? |
| 05:08.53 | roy_hobbs | Anyone familiar with the sasl-sample-{client,server} utilities? |
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| 05:09.09 | johnrw | the reason I ask... I use kde... and when I try and login to my router as root in konqueror... ssh-agent seems to prevent my being prompted for username passwd... even when this url is used fish://root@192.168.1.1 |
| 05:09.46 | johnrw | I have been working on this all day! |
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| 05:10.35 | johnrw | how do i prevent ssh-agent from starting up? |
| 05:10.51 | simonrvn | man ssh-agent; that's in /etc/X11 |
| 05:10.55 | beardy | johnrw: First, you shouldn't allow root login, second, if you try to login as root, being your user on the machine you are logging in from, it will not work, since it's two different users. |
| 05:11.17 | johnrw | my router only allows root login |
| 05:11.35 | beardy | Guessing a bit now, but I'm quite sure that's how, and why. |
| 05:12.02 | pl4yer0ne | what beardy ? thats crap? of course you can login as a different user |
| 05:12.11 | johnrw | there is no way to create unprivelegded users on the router... |
| 05:12.24 | beardy | Nice of you to be so.. well, fuck you. |
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| 05:12.42 | johnrw | lol |
| 05:12.48 | pl4yer0ne | johnrw, have you tried logging in via a console? |
| 05:12.54 | johnrw | take it easy dudes... |
| 05:12.56 | johnrw | yes |
| 05:13.04 | johnrw | konsole worked fine... |
| 05:13.56 | johnrw | I wound up tracing into kioslave->fish... in gdb... and it really mysteriously failed... |
| 05:14.00 | zaapiel-mobile | any idea what driver I need for the VirtualBox HDD? The Debian installer isn't picking up a disk. |
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| 05:15.18 | johnrw | is there a debian way to shut ssh-agent off? |
| 05:16.56 | johnrw | I was looking for clues in this kde bug... http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145123 |
| 05:19.11 | johnrw | There was so much activity on the bug... with lots of speculation... but on lenny official... it was just ssh-agent telling my router I was johnrw... and not passing me a password prompt when it failed... |
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| 05:19.58 | zaapiel-mobile | any good books on lenny? |
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| 05:21.26 | keith4_ | johnrw, what is fish:// ? |
| 05:22.06 | keith4_ | oh |
| 05:22.08 | keith4_ | *that* |
| 05:22.15 | keith4_ | i've never heard of anyone actually using that |
| 05:22.17 | johnrw | zaapiel-mobile: try changing your IDE controller type in the VM's advanced settings |
| 05:22.37 | johnrw | keith4_: it's pretty cool.. |
| 05:23.00 | Mousey | i <3 fish:// |
| 05:23.04 | keith4_ | now it makes sense why ssh is intercepting it |
| 05:23.06 | Mousey | LOVE it |
| 05:23.11 | Mousey | i would marry it if it was a girl.. a cute one, with a brain |
| 05:23.29 | Mousey | fish:// is superior to sftp:// |
| 05:23.42 | Mousey | and also nautilus's ssh:// |
| 05:23.47 | Mousey | fish:// rocks |
| 05:23.50 | Mousey | ^_^ |
| 05:23.56 | johnrw | lol |
| 05:24.04 | keith4_ | i don't think i've ever used ssh, sftp, or fish from nautilus |
| 05:24.14 | keith4_ | or from any other graphical program, for that matter |
| 05:24.20 | Mousey | oh, well fish is a konquerorism, it doesn't exist in nautilus |
| 05:24.28 | Mousey | the closest thing naut has is ssh:// |
| 05:24.40 | keith4_ | johnrw, so, do you have sshkeys set up for your router or something? |
| 05:24.56 | johnrw | well... now that I know what caused the failure... what's next? |
| 05:25.06 | keith4_ | use something else? ;-) |
| 05:25.45 | johnrw | no... killall ssh-agent fixed konqueror's fish... |
| 05:25.51 | Mousey | oh, this is the 64-bit fish bug |
| 05:25.57 | Mousey | i had this problem |
| 05:26.22 | Mousey | none of the workarounds worked. but for some reason it started working again in 3.5.10 |
| 05:26.51 | Mousey | i recommend installing kio_slaves from testing and/or unstable |
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| 05:27.01 | Mousey | and all of konq/kde if you can |
| 05:27.31 | Mousey | oh wait |
| 05:27.35 | Mousey | that's not your problem at all is it |
| 05:27.42 | Mousey | i take it back |
| 05:27.45 | Mousey | nm! |
| 05:28.01 | johnrw | hell... I built almost all of kde/qt and libc6 today... so I could see some source code in gdb :) |
| 05:28.40 | Supaplex | johnrw: stuff not already in the -dbg packages? |
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| 05:29.21 | johnrw | I installed the dbg packages and gdb could not find the fish.cpp file... |
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| 05:29.34 | Supaplex | okay. just curious. |
| 05:29.57 | johnrw | so I built from source and then copied it to /tmp/buildd |
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| 05:31.44 | johnrw | which is where things were supposed to be for some reason... http://pastebin.ca/1361607 |
| 05:31.59 | johnrw | that's where I started out :) |
| 05:32.06 | simonrvn | !buildd |
| 05:32.06 | dpkg | buildd is, like, Debian's automated build system that automatically compiles everything it finds. http://buildd.debian.org |
| 05:32.24 | johnrw | cool |
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| 05:33.43 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 05:33.46 | johnrw | people kept telling me to try other distros... ie kubuntu... so i could use a kde that kde developers would respond to in #kde-devel |
| 05:33.50 | tengulre | which package contain termcap? |
| 05:34.00 | kaiorafael | hello |
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| 05:35.07 | johnrw | ok... well i'll sleep on this one... and try and figure out who to tell about it. |
| 05:35.27 | johnrw | g'night folks... |
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| 05:52.57 | sparr | If I want to use KDE 3.x in unstable, will I have to keep it back or pin it, or is there a better solution? |
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| 06:04.45 | BadRobot | hi there |
| 06:04.50 | BadRobot | I need some help |
| 06:05.18 | BadRobot | I have made a clean install and now I can't change my screen resolution |
| 06:05.28 | BadRobot | how can I change it via terminal? |
| 06:05.33 | BadRobot | I am using a netbook |
| 06:06.09 | avu | depending on what you mean by 'via terminal', the answer is either 'xrandr' or 'edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf' :-) |
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| 06:07.45 | BadRobot | thx |
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| 06:10.31 | tecneeq | ipopd in lenny doesn't allow pop3, only pop3s, how stupid is that? and it's not a configoption but compiled hard into the package |
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| 06:11.07 | tarzeau | stew: haha that's so cool. thanks for the gnustep and fonts sections |
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| 06:12.59 | Supaplex | wonders how much will break on his etch->lenny upgrade |
| 06:13.02 | tecneeq | this release is quite a disappointment for me. if i don't want pop3 i can disable it in inetd.conf, why should debian force admins to move from pop3 to pop3s? |
| 06:13.30 | tecneeq | Supaplex: really, have a good backup and lots of time |
| 06:13.36 | mythomaniac | how does one auto start a window manager, without a login manager, when they login to the system? |
| 06:13.42 | Supaplex | tecneeq: yup. check and check. |
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| 06:14.08 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: startx is the command used to start X11 without a login manager |
| 06:14.43 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: i use xdm to login and then ~/.xsession to start my kde |
| 06:14.54 | dacs | howdy folks |
| 06:15.07 | mythomaniac | tecneeq, how can i have the command startx start as soon as one logs in? |
| 06:15.33 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: that could be done via ~/.bash_login i think |
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| 06:15.58 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: but you have to make sure it's only started if you login via a local console, not a terminal or ssh |
| 06:15.58 | BadRobot | hi again |
| 06:16.14 | BadRobot | I did the xrandr,but how can I select the resolution |
| 06:16.16 | xy|ox | somebody knows what does the updatedb.mlocate process? |
| 06:16.43 | mythomaniac | tecneeq, how about ~/.xinitrc? |
| 06:16.51 | elenril | currently python-qt4 in debian only works with python2.5. is there a way to make it available to python2.6? |
| 06:16.51 | BadRobot | It shows which resolution I am using but I don't know how to select any of them |
| 06:18.05 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: ~/.xinitrc is started after the command startx is used, you want to automate startx, right? |
| 06:18.06 | simonrvn | try xrandr --help ... |
| 06:18.37 | mythomaniac | tecneeq, yeah |
| 06:19.26 | BadRobot | thx |
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| 06:19.34 | mythomaniac | tecneeq, that makes sense and know i know why i was confused, though i never heard of ~/.bash_login - thanks |
| 06:19.52 | mythomaniac | tecneeq, will be using it now ;) |
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| 06:20.25 | burhan | does anyone know what this error means when running apt-get install : Segmentation faulty tree... 50% |
| 06:20.34 | burhan | first time I've seen it :/ |
| 06:20.36 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: could be that there isn't a ~/.bash_login anymore, you could abuse ~/.bashrc |
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| 06:21.18 | mythomaniac | tecneeq, couldn't i just create a ~/.bash_login? |
| 06:21.19 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: but you have to make sure it's only executed once, when you login via local console |
| 06:21.35 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: i dunno, try |
| 06:21.38 | mythomaniac | k |
| 06:21.39 | homecable | how do i get debian to send me mail about the system |
| 06:21.40 | homecable | etc |
| 06:21.57 | burhan | homecable: what do you mean 'about the system' |
| 06:21.59 | Supaplex | what kind of stuff about the system? |
| 06:22.13 | homecable | like system log or what ever |
| 06:22.32 | Supaplex | logrotate can send email of log files. |
| 06:22.54 | Supaplex | hex dump can send you copies of your harddisks.... :P |
| 06:22.58 | tecneeq | ;) |
| 06:23.00 | xoz | burhan: how large is the package to be installed? |
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| 06:23.22 | burhan | xoz: it happens on anything, I was trying to install python-wxversion; but now I just tried lsb-release and its the same issue. |
| 06:23.35 | xoz | burhan: apt-get update is ok? |
| 06:24.02 | burhan | xoz: yes, seems to be running fine. |
| 06:24.07 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: still, i would use xdm, it's just nicer |
| 06:24.17 | tecneeq | mythomaniac: good luck, gotta go |
| 06:24.35 | BadRobot | no help guys yet |
| 06:24.44 | xoz | burhan: lenny? |
| 06:24.47 | burhan | hrmm, maybe some internal database is corrupted? |
| 06:24.48 | BadRobot | so Do I have to do : xrandr x |
| 06:24.50 | BadRobot | ? |
| 06:24.51 | burhan | xoz: yes, 5.0 |
| 06:25.08 | homecable | exim4 email you reports about the system ? |
| 06:25.19 | xoz | burhan: try remove /var/cache/apt/*.bin |
| 06:25.22 | burhan | homecable: exim4 is an email server. |
| 06:25.37 | homecable | what mails you system reports ? |
| 06:26.22 | pl4yer0ne | logwatch is one thing that mails you system reports |
| 06:26.26 | burhan | xoz: thanks, that worked. Is this an indication of some other problem or just some random error with apt? |
| 06:26.39 | xoz | burhan: this is a known bug |
| 06:26.46 | xoz | burhan: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=349233 |
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| 06:27.10 | serialthrilla | hey guys i have a prob: i get a bunch of console messages and i need to get on the console because i can't start X due to a bad config.... how do i disable these kernel messages? |
| 06:27.17 | serialthrilla | i tried loglevel=0 |
| 06:27.56 | pl4yer0ne | come again serialthrilla |
| 06:28.10 | pl4yer0ne | why do you want to disable kernel messages? |
| 06:28.47 | homecable | doesnt debian have a system report mail to fist user installed with |
| 06:28.59 | serialthrilla | i'm getting flooded with sata errors |
| 06:29.42 | serialthrilla | i think the disk is going bad but it's just a junk box so it doesn't matter at the moment |
| 06:29.55 | Supaplex | ~lart serialthrilla:/dev/sda |
| 06:29.55 | apt | nukes serialthrilla:/dev/sda with a single large nuke |
| 06:30.16 | serialthrilla | why thank you, where do i donate? |
| 06:30.25 | xoz | burhan: most likely, you have corrupted during install... maybe stopping the update or install process in the middle. |
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| 06:31.41 | xoz | serialthrilla: you can goto alt-f2 of alt-f1 has kernel messages |
| 06:31.49 | burhan | xoz: it just happened again :/ |
| 06:31.53 | xoz | s/of/if |
| 06:32.05 | xoz | burhan: how much mem you have? |
| 06:32.12 | serialthrilla | xoz: i tried that but it's on every tty :\ |
| 06:32.29 | xoz | burhan: check diskspace/virtual memory/ |
| 06:32.32 | serialthrilla | "quiet" doesnt work either |
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| 06:33.31 | burhan | xoz: 1 GB on a headless system. |
| 06:33.32 | simonrvn | !printk console |
| 06:33.32 | dpkg | hmm... printk console is see docs for sysctl and set kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7 or so. You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. If you want to know what those numbers mean, see the file Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt in your kernel sources. |
| 06:33.42 | burhan | xoz: and 30GB free on the disk. |
| 06:33.53 | simonrvn | set the first number to 1 |
| 06:34.12 | burhan | serialthrilla: set your logging options to -c 1 |
| 06:34.21 | xoz | burhan: you have clean lenny? full upgrade? not mixture of lenny and testing? |
| 06:34.43 | burhan | xoz: clean machine, nothing on it. Downloaded the ISO last week. |
| 06:34.55 | burhan | serialthrilla: see https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/how-to-disable-console-logging-debian-sarge-315433/ |
| 06:35.01 | serialthrilla | burhan: where do i set that? |
| 06:35.17 | serialthrilla | burhan: ok |
| 06:35.25 | simonrvn | serialthrilla: see what the bot said, and set the first number to 1 |
| 06:35.42 | xoz | serialthrilla: edit /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 06:35.58 | serialthrilla | xoz burhan: lol i wish i could even get there |
| 06:36.07 | serialthrilla | i can't do anything on teh console, i need a kernel parameter |
| 06:36.44 | simonrvn | ffs, sudo sysctl -w kernel.printk="1 4 1 7" |
| 06:37.59 | xoz | burhan: are you using aptitude or apt-get? |
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| 06:40.53 | burhan | xoz: apt-get |
| 06:41.01 | burhan | I don't think aptitude is even on here. |
| 06:41.03 | zhangweiwu | Hello. Does anyone know how do I convert %53 to 'R' on command line? |
| 06:41.10 | zhangweiwu | a.k.a. to de-code URI |
| 06:41.23 | xoz | burhan: try aptitude and check if same problem |
| 06:42.15 | zhangweiwu | I tried awk '{gsub("%","\\x", $0); print sprintf($0);}' and that doesn't seems to work for UTF-8 multibyte strings. |
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| 06:43.52 | burhan | xoz: seems its okay with aptitude. |
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| 06:45.59 | \amethyst | zhangweiwu: PERLIO=:bytes perl -MURI::Escape -e 'for (@ARGV) { print uri_unescape($_), "\n"; }' %C3%A9%C3%A1 |
| 06:46.07 | \amethyst | zhangweiwu: => éá |
| 06:46.20 | xoz | burhan: use aptitude for a while until the bug is fixed. |
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| 06:47.50 | zhangweiwu | \amethyst: oh that works! thanks. but that's really long. |
| 06:48.37 | \amethyst | zhangweiwu: so make it into a script |
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| 06:50.55 | \amethyst | #! /usr/bin/perl -w <newline> use URI::Escape; binmode STDOUT, ":bytes"; for (@ARGV) { print uri_unescape($_), "\n" } |
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| 06:51.12 | \amethyst | then invoke it as scriptname %C3%A9%C3%A1 |
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| 06:52.03 | zhangweiwu | \amethyst: yes I am doing it:) |
| 06:53.42 | zhangweiwu | \amethyst: well it works but,, is awefully slow and complicated, compare to the old script without it. I don't know if it's possible to make it easier.. There are thoundsands of lines I want to process. But I am happy having at least one solution. |
| 06:54.02 | \amethyst | oh, you want to process stdin instead? |
| 06:54.23 | DaemonDEB | kernel is building B-) |
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| 06:54.47 | \amethyst | change the for(@ARGV) { print ... to while (<>) { chomp; print ... |
| 06:54.51 | DaemonDEB | 2.6.28.7, realtime, RCU prempt, no ReiserFS, Minstrel rate algorithm |
| 06:54.54 | DaemonDEB | hold the lettuce |
| 06:55.04 | et | sb |
| 06:55.04 | zhangweiwu | \amethyst: well I am not sure. original script I wrote has a lot of awk/sed/bash there. if I use perl I should rewrite everything in perl, seems that's the only way to make it faster. I want to process stdin but only based on some logic that existed in awk.. |
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| 06:56.42 | zhangweiwu | \amethyst: anyway just keep it. |
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| 06:58.55 | xoz | DaemonDEB: building kernel isn't that difficult? |
| 06:59.25 | DaemonDEB | meh |
| 06:59.41 | DaemonDEB | not terribly |
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| 06:59.53 | DaemonDEB | one page of generic how to gave me the gist of it |
| 07:00.02 | DaemonDEB | it it actually boots, I'll be thrilled |
| 07:00.07 | amphi | !tell xoz -about kernel-package |
| 07:00.15 | et | booting is not the problem |
| 07:00.23 | amphi | et: it can be ;) |
| 07:00.35 | et | having every part of your hardware work is more fun (but doable ;)) |
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| 07:00.39 | DaemonDEB | this Debian 2.6.26 kernel is the devil |
| 07:00.46 | DaemonDEB | I doubt I could make anything more hellacious |
| 07:01.09 | xoz | amphi: ive been using kernel-package for a long time... |
| 07:01.22 | DaemonDEB | I may just maintain my own |
| 07:01.36 | DaemonDEB | not have to worry about vendor stupidity and arbitrary crap |
| 07:02.20 | DaemonDEB | the rest of the system is dandy, but anything pre-2.6.27 gives my system gas :P |
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| 07:03.50 | DaemonDEB | hmmm, as a bonus I can get rid of the separate GSPCA drivers as they'll be integrated into this kernel |
| 07:04.57 | amphi | xoz: sorry, I misunderstood your question above |
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| 07:14.26 | xoz | amphi: np |
| 07:14.55 | DaemonDEB | hmmmm |
| 07:15.11 | DaemonDEB | xoz: I could upload these into my Ubuntu PPA |
| 07:15.21 | DaemonDEB | and Debian users could grab them like any other repo |
| 07:16.49 | igrek | is there a way to upgrade just one package? (I've looked at aptitude and apt-get man pages, did not find anything) |
| 07:16.52 | serialthrilla | ahhhhh so many kernel errors |
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| 07:17.01 | DaemonDEB | hang out a little disclaimer that I take no responsibility if they eat your poodle and hump your leg |
| 07:17.02 | serialthrilla | log_bug_len=-1 didn't work |
| 07:17.06 | DaemonDEB | and everyone wins |
| 07:18.26 | xoz | igrek: explain more |
| 07:19.27 | arvind_khadri | igrek, sudo apt-get install <package name> , this will do what you want |
| 07:19.46 | igrek | arvind_khadri: thanks |
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| 07:28.37 | igrek | another question on packages: how can I get a list of packages marked as 'hold'? |
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| 07:31.11 | xoz | igrek: try dpkg --get-selections | grep hold |
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| 07:32.54 | igrek | xoz: it shows only install and deinstall on two packages that need to be purged |
| 07:33.10 | xoz | igrek: yep...not effective |
| 07:33.49 | Deepa | purge them then? |
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| 07:34.44 | igrek | Deepa: just did :-) |
| 07:34.54 | Deepa | :D |
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| 07:36.26 | Kohvihoor | is anyone here using pulseaudio with Lenny? |
| 07:37.23 | Gun_Smoke | i've never heard anything good about pulseaudio.. |
| 07:37.40 | xoz | Kohvihoor: DaemonDEB mentioned using it. |
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| 07:38.11 | DaemonDEB | yes, I use it |
| 07:38.33 | DaemonDEB | it really helps cut down on dropped packets |
| 07:38.54 | DaemonDEB | I'm compiling a real time kernel also at the moment |
| 07:40.07 | Kohvihoor | how did you install it, DaemonDEB? |
| 07:40.19 | Kohvihoor | because i get this connection refused thing |
| 07:40.30 | DaemonDEB | yeah, thats easy to have happen |
| 07:40.33 | DaemonDEB | hang on a sec |
| 07:41.22 | DaemonDEB | http://www.samlesher.com/ubuntu/install-pulseaudio-on-xubuntu-810-xfce |
| 07:41.25 | DaemonDEB | that guide works |
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| 07:41.34 | theholyduck | meh |
| 07:41.38 | Younix | if i ever? |
| 07:41.38 | theholyduck | pulse isa horrible turd |
| 07:41.39 | BigLuks | hi all and good morning |
| 07:41.41 | BigLuks | ;D |
| 07:41.41 | DaemonDEB | just obviously replace sudo part with performing command as root |
| 07:41.55 | Kohvihoor | thanks. |
| 07:42.00 | theholyduck | DaemonDEB, why dont you have sudo setup on your debian box? |
| 07:42.08 | theholyduck | if you configure it responsibly its great |
| 07:42.14 | Kohvihoor | why should one have it? |
| 07:42.19 | DaemonDEB | because I don't care to have it |
| 07:42.19 | BigLuks | is it possible to get lenny setup running from an multi boot usb stick using syslinux without the need of having a cd-rom |
| 07:42.22 | Kohvihoor | it's not hard to type su |
| 07:42.27 | Kohvihoor | and when done, exit |
| 07:42.28 | theholyduck | Kohvihoor, then your password :P |
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| 07:42.31 | DaemonDEB | a single user box does not need sudo |
| 07:42.57 | theholyduck | Kohvihoor, like for example i dont want to have to root up to mount or do dhclient and ifconfig |
| 07:43.01 | theholyduck | and wlan and what not :P |
| 07:43.10 | theholyduck | so i have sudo setup to let my group nopasswd those |
| 07:43.38 | theholyduck | but anything ELSE is passworded |
| 07:43.55 | DaemonDEB | sudo makes sense if you have lots of users |
| 07:44.02 | DaemonDEB | otherwise root access is fine |
| 07:44.22 | theholyduck | DaemonDEB, meh |
| 07:44.31 | theholyduck | i dont like having to type my password for every day stuff |
| 07:44.34 | theholyduck | sudo is way flexible |
| 07:44.42 | theholyduck | certain commands can be nopasswded for certain users |
| 07:44.43 | theholyduck | etc |
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| 07:52.22 | BigLuks | any1? |
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| 07:53.26 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: yes |
| 07:53.31 | dagobart | Hi |
| 07:53.33 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: see the install guide for details |
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| 07:53.42 | BigLuks | i looked at it |
| 07:53.52 | BigLuks | but i cant find any help for a multiboot stick |
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| 07:54.11 | BigLuks | only for dedicated installation media without anything else on it |
| 07:54.26 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: there's no help for a multiboot stick, because you should be able to figure out how to write the syslinux.cfg yourself. |
| 07:54.31 | DaemonDEB | ryan@debian:~$ uname -a |
| 07:54.32 | DaemonDEB | Linux debian 2.6.28.7-custom #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Mar 16 03:02:05 EDT 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:54.33 | xoz | DaemonDEB: sudo <command> is logged which is a good way to track root command history |
| 07:54.38 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: see the instructions under "flexible setup" for details |
| 07:54.39 | DaemonDEB | hot off the press B-) |
| 07:54.46 | dagobart | can anyone give me a hint where (or for what suitable search term) to look for an music collection merge tool? |
| 07:55.11 | xoz | dagobart: explain |
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| 07:55.44 | BigLuks | dondelelcaro: do u have a link for me to doku? |
| 07:56.04 | dagobart | xoz Thre are two large music collections on currently two different disks. I want to merge them to free up one of the disks. |
| 07:56.25 | xoz | dagobart: you mean remove duplicates? |
| 07:56.28 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-flexible |
| 07:56.33 | BigLuks | ty |
| 07:56.55 | dagobart | xoz yes, duplicats. Though there may be files named differently containing the same track |
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| 07:57.34 | xoz | dagobart: what about fdupes? |
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| 07:57.58 | BigLuks | hm |
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| 07:58.08 | BigLuks | is there any sheme the iso file must match |
| 07:58.09 | yanz | Provant? |
| 07:58.17 | BigLuks | because those steps havent worked for me |
| 07:58.29 | BigLuks | it booted the setup |
| 07:58.33 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: uh... you just shove the iso as its named onto the usb stick |
| 07:58.40 | BigLuks | but i coundlt find the "cd" |
| 07:58.45 | BigLuks | ive done so |
| 07:58.46 | dagobart | xoz yes, that could be a solution. A friend of mine suggested to md5 everything too. Does fdupes ignore the file names? |
| 07:58.50 | BigLuks | dosnt worked |
| 07:58.59 | xoz | dagobart: it uses md5 |
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| 07:59.11 | xoz | dagobart: apt-cache show fdupes for description |
| 07:59.12 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: then you haven't done so properly, or your not actually loading the proper initrd |
| 07:59.37 | serialthrilla | yea i really dont get why loglevel=0 didn't stop all those ATA errors from showing |
| 07:59.37 | dondelelcaro | BigLuks: show us the output of ls -l; after mounting the stick, and the contents of the syslinux.cfg |
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| 08:00.02 | dagobart | xoz I yet pointed aptitude to that package, though the descr doesn't reveal that file name bit. ... yet |
| 08:00.03 | Rebbe | how to use key-based auth in sshfs? |
| 08:00.06 | BigLuks | l8r |
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| 08:00.13 | BigLuks | im @ school atm and now break |
| 08:00.17 | BigLuks | so going to smoke now |
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| 08:00.58 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; best of luck finding someone who can help you when you get back. |
| 08:01.30 | serialthrilla | those error messages are KERN_ERR |
| 08:01.33 | serialthrilla | not KERN_EMERG |
| 08:01.55 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: no worries, that happens, but very often... |
| 08:02.08 | streuner_ | dondelelcaro: not* |
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| 08:03.08 | serialthrilla | must be forcing it to the min level of KERN_ERR..... thanks linux... you always know best..... |
| 08:03.11 | dagobart | xoz just installed the package, looks good. Thanks a lot for the hint. |
| 08:03.26 | xoz | dagobart: np |
| 08:03.41 | civillian | Hi all, has locales been changed a bit since etch? Lenny seems a bit different |
| 08:04.14 | civillian | !tell me about locales |
| 08:04.21 | streuner_ | judd, versions locales |
| 08:04.22 | judd | streuner_: locales -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 sid: 2.7-16 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.7-18 experimental: 2.9-0exp2 squeeze: 2.9-4 sid: 2.9-6 |
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| 08:07.10 | xoz | civillian: how different? |
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| 08:11.00 | simonrvn | ex-squeeze me sir |
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| 08:16.30 | dagobart | re |
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| 08:16.58 | Kohvihoor | i have two sound cards installed. is it possible with pulseaudio, to choose automatically to play and capture sound from the device that is free? |
| 08:17.18 | jeannmmii | Hi, is there a way to determine how much space is being on my HD by a given (installed) package ? |
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| 08:21.26 | adb | apt-cache show packagename |grep Installed-Size |
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| 08:21.51 | dagobart | xoz the fdupes hint really did the deal for me, I just was too focused on audio file dupes; via fdupes I found http://is.gd/nvNS which tackles the issue for audio files indeed. Just wanted to provide this bit of feedback. |
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| 08:23.34 | xoz | dagobart: cool |
| 08:23.49 | civillian | xos: console-data.mo seems missing for /en*/ |
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| 08:24.29 | dagobart | xoz np |
| 08:25.01 | xoz | civillian: dpkg -L console-data |
| 08:25.33 | lxsameer | how can i download the all the udebs from a repo? |
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| 08:30.45 | xoz | jeannmmii: try feta -r package-sizes |
| 08:31.26 | xoz | jeannmmii: try feta package-sizes -s |
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| 08:41.47 | adb | where to find feta? |
| 08:41.57 | mythomaniac | for some reason each time i edit the ~/.fehbg and restart x it reverts back to its original? |
| 08:41.59 | xingu_ | in a greek sala |
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| 08:42.01 | xingu_ | d |
| 08:42.20 | mythomaniac | err: for some reason each time i edit the ~/.fehbg and restart x it reverts back to its original, how can i change this? |
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| 08:43.41 | xoz | adb: aptitude install feta |
| 08:44.03 | xoz | adb: oh, it is no longer in the repo |
| 08:44.29 | adb | i see |
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| 08:45.47 | xoz | whatever happened to feta package? |
| 08:45.55 | Margaret | Hi |
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| 08:47.54 | Margaret | I am using mepis for grandparents computer (since they are grandparents and mepis is easy) but an upgrade from 7.5 (etch stable) to 8.0 (lenny stable) broke the internet any thoughts |
| 08:48.26 | Margaret | broadcomm 440x 10/100 |
| 08:48.32 | streuner_ | !mepis |
| 08:48.32 | dpkg | hmm... mepis is a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system that uses KDE and includes NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. See http://www.mepis.org and/or visit #mepis on irc.freenode.net and ask me about <Based On Debian> |
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| 08:50.00 | Margaret | Debian Lenny Based SimplyMEPIS 8.0 is Released |
| 08:50.00 | Margaret | Submitted by warren on Sun, 02/22/2009 - 18:09. |
| 08:50.32 | Margaret | I asked in their channel and no answer |
| 08:50.56 | streuner_ | Margaret: we only support Debian, sorry, have some patient |
| 08:51.06 | Margaret | it is debian |
| 08:51.25 | Margaret | if I didnt say mepis you would have helped if you could |
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| 08:52.29 | civillian | xoz: seems to skip /en/ |
| 08:52.51 | Margaret | knoppix is very different and mepis is not just a live cd if that what that means |
| 08:53.40 | xoz | civillian: locale command outputs what? |
| 08:54.08 | civillian | xoz: en_AU.UTF-8 |
| 08:54.11 | Margaret | I thought it was windows doing the powersave thing were it turns off the card, and linux cant turn it back on |
| 08:54.18 | xoz | civillian: and this is ok? |
| 08:54.42 | civillian | xoz: not sure, I installed lenny via expert install and seem to have un-expertly screwed this |
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| 08:54.54 | civillian | xoz: not to mention trying apt-get install libglib2.0-0 |
| 08:54.57 | xoz | civillian: try dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 08:55.20 | civillian | xoz: which seems to have mucked with locale (I'm new to this locale stuff) |
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| 08:55.53 | civillian | xoz: yea, and I choose a few like en_US etc |
| 08:55.53 | xoz | civillian: cat /etc/default/locale |
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| 08:56.12 | xoz | civillian: you have to relogin for the changes to take effect |
| 08:56.18 | civillian | en_US, interestingly |
| 08:56.21 | Moe|Joe | morning i need some help with mplayer |
| 08:56.29 | xoz | is wondering whether Margaret is male or female |
| 08:56.32 | Moe|Joe | im currently getting this error when trying to play videos |
| 08:56.51 | Moe|Joe | X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) |
| 08:56.53 | xoz | civillian: logout and login to |
| 08:56.55 | Moe|Joe | any ideas how to fix? |
| 08:57.01 | xoz | civillian: reflect the change |
| 08:57.05 | civillian | xoz: the difference between en_US and en_AU seems negligble |
| 08:57.14 | xoz | civillian: yep |
| 08:57.27 | xoz | civillian: you can install localepurge to free disk space |
| 08:57.39 | streuner_ | Moe|Joe: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 08:57.51 | civillian | negligible* |
| 08:58.01 | Margaret | because I am using mepis doesnt mean you have to give me a half hours speech about the differences of root and user I am proficient with cli just never have run into a problem like this before |
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| 08:58.39 | Moe|Joe | moejoe@Macbian:~$ dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 08:58.39 | Moe|Joe | ii libc6 2.7-18 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 08:58.39 | Moe|Joe | moejoe@Macbian:~$ |
| 08:58.57 | Moe|Joe | streuner_: im also using compiz-fusion |
| 08:59.07 | Margaret | xoz I am a male it comes up margaret because it is granparents comp |
| 08:59.09 | Moe|Joe | u need to see my x.org config? |
| 08:59.16 | streuner_ | judd versions libc6 |
| 08:59.17 | judd | streuner_: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 sid: 2.9-4 squeeze: 2.9-4 |
| 08:59.18 | civillian | xoz: some background, reason I'm chasing this is because my winbind isn't picking up idmap gid (no SID to GID trans) and an strace revealed these as file not found just before exiting |
| 08:59.34 | Moe|Joe | judd? |
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| 08:59.45 | civillian | xoz: 'these' being the console-data.mo files |
| 08:59.45 | streuner_ | Moe|Joe: and that package is from marillat? |
| 08:59.58 | Moe|Joe | from where? |
| 09:00.20 | xoz | civillian: different dir location? |
| 09:00.30 | xoz | civillian: make a link |
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| 09:00.43 | streuner_ | Moe|Joe: apt-cache policy mplayer | grep 500 |
| 09:01.06 | Margaret | could it be that it is trying to use the wireless instead of ethernet card or is this possible, since this card is not supported by the kernel afaik |
| 09:01.06 | Moe|Joe | apt-cache policy mplayer | grep 500 |
| 09:01.12 | civillian | xoz: the only choices that contain console-data.mo are non en_(US|AU) |
| 09:01.13 | Moe|Joe | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.13 | Moe|Joe | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.29 | xoz | Moe|Joe: this is all over google if you pasted the error message |
| 09:01.35 | civillian | xoz: (US|AU|GB) |
| 09:01.42 | Moe|Joe | i have and cudnt find much :s |
| 09:01.52 | Margaret | -card + wireless card |
| 09:02.02 | xoz | Moe|Joe: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=104445 |
| 09:02.14 | xoz | Moe|Joe: it is fedora forum but same issue |
| 09:02.19 | Margaret | xoz very nice deduction though ;) |
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| 09:02.34 | daniel-vlc | hi |
| 09:02.43 | streuner_ | hm, fx-services.com might be a mirror of marillat, but not an official server |
| 09:03.01 | Moe|Joe | xoz: ive tried different output modules |
| 09:03.02 | DaemonDEB | hmm, between my realtime kernel and pulseaudio, everything is much smoother :) |
| 09:03.22 | daniel-vlc | i'am testing debian live and can't obtain screen resolutions upper 800x600 |
| 09:03.22 | xoz | Moe|Joe: vlc --vout x11 |
| 09:03.41 | xoz | Moe|Joe: just to check if vlc has similar problem |
| 09:03.51 | Moe|Joe | yerp |
| 09:03.55 | Moe|Joe | tht doesnt even play video |
| 09:04.08 | Moe|Joe | i got a feeling its something to do with my x.org |
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| 09:04.29 | xoz | Moe|Joe: i think debian-multimedia is f***ng your video |
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| 09:04.54 | Bladerunner05 | hello, I need to see a complete list of files and folder with all attributes like ls -la, how do it ? |
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| 09:05.09 | Moe|Joe | http://pastebin.com/m5d26e5c1 |
| 09:05.12 | Moe|Joe | thts my x.org config |
| 09:05.30 | daniel-vlc | Bladerunner05 ... ls -Rla |
| 09:05.41 | daniel-vlc | this make recusrive listing |
| 09:05.48 | Bladerunner05 | thanks |
| 09:05.49 | civillian | xoz: logout / in has reset my locales values, would I need to recompile my application again for this locale? |
| 09:06.07 | xoz | civillian: maybe :). just try it. |
| 09:06.24 | Moe|Joe | debian-multimedia gone |
| 09:07.08 | civillian | xoz: this looks like the last line of excecution before it quits... |
| 09:07.13 | civillian | xoz: open("/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 09:08.09 | DaemonDEB | yeah, it's as I suspected, I install my own kernel and all my wifi problems go away |
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| 09:08.28 | enouf | Missouri? |
| 09:08.46 | civillian | xoz: this could be an incompatibility with winbindd and pam on my x64, I'm trying to id a user which worked on a test setup with etch x86 |
| 09:08.56 | rabbit7 | hey there I have a debian 4.0 etch. My cron is not working anymore. I dont know how to debug this problem. No entries in the logfiles |
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| 09:09.06 | rabbit7 | how can I debug this ? |
| 09:09.31 | mythomaniac | for some reason each time i edit the ~/.fehbg and restart x it reverts back to its original, how can i change this? |
| 09:09.54 | enouf | set -x on the script and set it to run every minute |
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| 09:10.15 | mythomaniac | ? |
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| 09:10.40 | mythomaniac | enouf, i hope that wasn't a solution for me |
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| 09:11.14 | enouf | hope is a wonderous thing |
| 09:11.28 | enouf | but no, not for you |
| 09:11.56 | mythomaniac | cool |
| 09:12.09 | mythomaniac | enouf, know anything about feh? |
| 09:12.28 | enouf | not offhand |
| 09:12.41 | xoz | mythomaniac: man feh and look for --bg-seamless |
| 09:12.56 | civillian | xoz: I also seem to have the directory: /usr/share/locale/en@boldquot (sic) |
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| 09:13.38 | mythomaniac | xoz, i saw that but i have no clue how to use in conjunction with my feh --bg-center </path/so/some/silly/wallpaper/>? |
| 09:13.52 | Moe|Joe | brb |
| 09:13.55 | mythomaniac | xoz, any ideas? |
| 09:13.55 | Moe|Joe | trying something |
| 09:14.15 | xoz | mythomaniac: what win manager |
| 09:14.30 | mythomaniac | xoz, awesome |
| 09:14.42 | xoz | mythomaniac: you have to add the command in .xsessionrc |
| 09:15.09 | enouf | if using a DM |
| 09:15.25 | mythomaniac | yes its ~/.fehbg & |
| 09:15.29 | enouf | otherwise use ~/.xinitrc |
| 09:16.08 | mythomaniac | thing is though, even if i do feh --bg-center </path/so/some/silly/wallpaper/> & in ~/.xinitrc it go back to the original wallpaper |
| 09:16.11 | xoz | !xsessionrc |
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| 09:16.29 | xoz | !.xsessionrc |
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| 09:16.37 | xoz | darn |
| 09:16.39 | xoz | !.xsession |
| 09:16.39 | dpkg | xsession is probably ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 09:17.07 | enouf | mythomaniac: see if update-alternatives --config {TAB}{TAB} helps (look specifically for x- related and any feh related) |
| 09:17.09 | xoz | this is no longer true. .xsessionrc is now the new .xsession |
| 09:17.37 | xoz | mythomaniac: try placing it in .xsessionrc |
| 09:17.42 | enouf | no longer true? |
| 09:18.09 | enouf | where does that dotfile belong anyway? |
| 09:18.16 | xoz | enouf: try startx... it will not read .xsession or .xinitrc |
| 09:18.33 | enouf | i don't need to |
| 09:18.41 | mythomaniac | xoz, it reads .xinitrc |
| 09:18.52 | mythomaniac | mine does anyways |
| 09:18.52 | xoz | mythomaniac: oh, really |
| 09:18.55 | mythomaniac | yes |
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| 09:19.09 | Moe|Joe | back |
| 09:19.10 | mythomaniac | i have many progs that start was i do startx |
| 09:19.11 | xoz | man xsession... and search xsessionrc |
| 09:19.12 | Moe|Joe | well |
| 09:19.19 | Moe|Joe | ive managed to get the video playing |
| 09:19.26 | Moe|Joe | but its hella jumpy with compiz running |
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| 09:20.11 | Moe|Joe | had to change the accelmethod to EXA instead of XAA |
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| 09:27.57 | enouf | mythomaniac: which DM? look in /etc/default/kd* and gdmsetup |
| 09:29.09 | mythomaniac | enouf, i dont use a dm i log into the system and it, because i created and edited ~/.bash_login, automatically starts x |
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| 09:29.50 | enouf | so then ~/.bashrc is read? or? |
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| 09:30.43 | enouf | walk through your .bash.login ... or atleast set -x it |
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| 09:30.58 | enouf | er .bah_login |
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| 09:31.19 | enouf | bah ... silly ergonomic keyboard |
| 09:31.37 | mythomaniac | enouf, all i have in it right now is startx |
| 09:31.59 | enouf | no, that's not what i said |
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| 09:32.08 | mythomaniac | enouf, sorry |
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| 09:32.28 | enouf | and, you should have more in .bash_login |
| 09:32.51 | enouf | are you usimg Debian? |
| 09:33.23 | mythomaniac | i have nothing in it other then startx, it never existed before; and yes i use debian squeeze x86 |
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| 09:35.05 | enouf | mythomaniac: crap - i'm thinkimg of ~/.bash_profile |
| 09:35.23 | enouf | cat ~/.bash_profile |
| 09:35.24 | enouf | Your paste URL is: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1362105 |
| 09:35.34 | mythomaniac | k |
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| 09:36.35 | enouf | mythomaniac: getent passwd <username> (what's the login shell?) |
| 09:36.51 | mythomaniac | enouf, you mean ~/.profile? |
| 09:37.00 | FSB_1 | Sorry, I'm not a GNU/Linux user. But where in Debian does Postfix put it's logs? |
| 09:37.09 | enouf | no, that's /root/ |
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| 09:37.24 | mythomaniac | enouf, no that is in my ~ |
| 09:37.26 | OpenTokix | FSB_1: check /usr/share/docs/postfix/Readme.Debian |
| 09:37.34 | FSB_1 | Thanks |
| 09:37.36 | mythomaniac | i dont have a ~/.bash_profile |
| 09:37.49 | OpenTokix | FSB_1: default MTA in debian is exim4 btw. |
| 09:37.49 | joltcan | FSB_1: in /var/log/mail.* IIRC |
| 09:38.30 | enouf | mythomaniac: well you should - see /etc/skel |
| 09:38.31 | FSB_1 | OpenTokix: I couldnt find it. |
| 09:38.37 | FSB_1 | It's not my box. |
| 09:38.43 | FSB_1 | It's been used to send spam. |
| 09:38.52 | FSB_1 | I'm trying to investigate it. :P |
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| 09:39.11 | OpenTokix | FSB_1: oki |
| 09:39.21 | OpenTokix | FSB_1: sorry, can't help you further now |
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| 09:40.07 | FSB_1 | debian_version says 5.0 and there's no file named mail in /var/log/. Or folder for that matter. :I |
| 09:40.20 | enouf | ... |
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| 09:40.44 | FSB_1 | (Or anything beginning with mail) |
| 09:40.53 | FSB_1 | Any other suggestions? |
| 09:41.04 | OpenTokix | FSB_1: /var/log/exim4 |
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| 09:42.45 | mcbane | Hi |
| 09:42.49 | mythomaniac | enouf, why do you want me to run getent? |
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| 09:43.54 | FSB_1 | OpenTokix: Thanks, unfortunately it only stated when it started to go through the queue. And when it ended. |
| 09:44.04 | OpenTokix | oki |
| 09:44.07 | FSB_1 | Thanks for trying to help anyway, much appreciated! |
| 09:44.10 | OpenTokix | np |
| 09:44.10 | mcbane | is there a way to have some kind of filter for yp that allows me to modify the home directory output of yp? |
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| 09:44.29 | enouf | # getent passwd walk-the-bozo |
| 09:44.29 | enouf | walk-the-bozo:x:1001:1001::/home/walk-the-bozo:/bin/bash |
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| 09:45.15 | giles | heya debianiers |
| 09:45.27 | giles | i was wondering if someone could explain the scores with aptitude |
| 09:45.33 | mythomaniac | enouf, i know i'm using bash |
| 09:45.41 | giles | I'm doing a nasty libc6 downgrade on a few boxes |
| 09:45.44 | mythomaniac | enouf, no other shells installed |
| 09:45.48 | giles | and the score varies massively |
| 09:45.52 | giles | man page has nothing on it |
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| 09:50.32 | \amethyst | mcbane: man nsswitch.conf and search for override |
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| 09:50.55 | mcbane | \amethyst: thank you |
| 09:51.03 | enouf | you're not using Debian, end of story |
| 09:51.55 | mythomaniac | enouf, was that directed to me? |
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| 09:52.57 | enouf | yep |
| 09:53.25 | mythomaniac | enouf, well i am, and why you don't think i am i'm not sure? |
| 09:54.15 | enouf | mythomaniac: you don't have basic essential files |
| 09:54.21 | \amethyst | enouf: which ones? |
| 09:54.28 | enouf | ... |
| 09:54.51 | \amethyst | enouf: are you talking about ~/.bash_profile ? |
| 09:54.58 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, he thinks that because i don't have ~/.bash_profile im'm not using debian |
| 09:55.06 | Deepa | apt-get install bash |
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| 09:55.36 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, btw i installed base with xorg and awesome and the progs i needed |
| 09:55.44 | enouf | nor /etc/skel |
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| 09:56.15 | mythomaniac | i didn't even look for that so... because i'm not sure why that is needed to fix an issue with feh |
| 09:56.16 | \amethyst | enouf: when did he say he didn't have an /etc/skel ? |
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| 09:56.34 | enouf | nor will he post output asked for |
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| 09:56.52 | mythomaniac | again not sure why that is needed for an issue with feh |
| 09:57.36 | mythomaniac | but its cool |
| 09:57.37 | Zenox | Is Roundcube coming to Lenny again (after 0.1 was removed due to security issues)? Or if any backport exists? |
| 09:57.40 | \amethyst | mythomaniac: you have the command in .xinitrc and what's happenning? |
| 09:57.45 | enouf | \amethyst: feel free to take over |
| 09:58.25 | enouf | \amethyst: fucken \ key is way below Enter on this ergonomicmaniac, couldn't find it :-P |
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| 09:59.19 | jelly | Zenox: in general, if a package wasn't in the release at release time, it won't get in it afterwards |
| 09:59.26 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, the deal is that every time i edit the ~/.fehbg file it reverts back to the original and i have in .xinitrc an entry of ~/.fehbg & |
| 09:59.33 | enouf | \amethyst: fwiw - the word "myth" as in mythtv moght perk your ears - it did mine, maybe not yours |
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| 09:59.48 | Zenox | jelly: Ouch.. gotta check for a backport in that case |
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| 10:00.06 | craigevil | Zenox: its in testing and sid, so sooner or later it will probably be in backports |
| 10:00.10 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, that is every time i restart x it reverts back |
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| 10:00.33 | jelly | Zenox: right. Since it's php, it shouldn't be very hard to backport it yourself either (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 10:00.34 | Deepa | enouf: are you really just a user? |
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| 10:00.40 | Zenox | craigevil: hopefully... etch got it as backport, but not lenny |
| 10:00.44 | \amethyst | mythomaniac: the .fehbg file is changing behind your back? |
| 10:01.04 | \amethyst | enouf: what's wrong with mythtv? |
| 10:01.05 | enouf | Deepa: i'm a professional Gigolo, what's it to you? |
| 10:01.41 | Deepa | I have here a wonderful piece of software, can I convince you to become an expert at it? |
| 10:01.52 | Zenox | jelly: hmm, maybe that would be the best until it gets an official backport.. dont really like to add unofficial ones |
| 10:01.55 | enouf | \amethyst: i thought it was a distro .. a debian mutant offspring |
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| 10:02.06 | \amethyst | enouf: no, it's a program, and it's in the Debian archive |
| 10:02.29 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, yeah, in that every time i log into x the wallpaper setting reverts back to the original wallpaper of awesome; though it should be noted that the wallpaper i set it to before flashed for a second and then go back to the awesome wallpaper, and when i look at ~/.fehbg it too reverts back to eh --bg-scale '/usr/share/awesome/themes/default/background.png' |
| 10:02.44 | Deepa | chmod it 444? |
| 10:03.03 | enouf | \amethyst: wonderful - i learned something .. but i still don't believe it - i've researched mythtv years ago |
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| 10:04.03 | Sero | Hey! I'm suddenly getting Input/Ouput errors while doing regular system commands. What should I do? |
| 10:04.06 | \amethyst | mythomaniac: hm, so awesome is itself using feh to set the background |
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| 10:04.31 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, yeah, which is strange, but yes given that that entry is in there |
| 10:04.55 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, so really not an issue with feh, but awesome i guess |
| 10:05.00 | mythomaniac | hmmm |
| 10:05.11 | \amethyst | mythomaniac: I don't know awesome unfortunately... sawfish user here :) |
| 10:05.11 | craigevil | most of the mythtv packages are in dmm not debian, at least apt-cache show mythtv shows dmm and not debian repo |
| 10:05.15 | jelly | Sero: inspect dmesg or /var/log/kern.log if you can; check for errors regarding your system disk/partition |
| 10:05.19 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, ah |
| 10:05.24 | mythomaniac | but also ;( |
| 10:05.30 | enouf | it's not strange, your dotfiles are crap |
| 10:05.37 | \amethyst | craigevil: ah, you are right... it's just the status program that's in debian |
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| 10:06.26 | \amethyst | enouf: bash in Lenny doesn't ship with an /etc/skel/.bash_profile |
| 10:06.59 | Sero | jelly: http://pastebin.com/m38df67a4 - is there anything to do, or should I just get a new hd? |
| 10:07.03 | enouf | \amethyst: then some asshat removed it |
| 10:07.32 | craigevil | cat: /etc/skel/.bash_profile: No such file or directory in sid |
| 10:07.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | has anyone else here got a lenny box upgraded to testing? my lsb_release -a shows 'lenny' still, but /etc/debian-versoin contains squeeze/sid |
| 10:07.44 | \amethyst | enouf: Matthias Klose you mean? |
| 10:07.55 | enouf | craigevil: thanks for clarifying mythtv and dmm |
| 10:08.12 | jelly | Sero: it's too early to tell; I'd boot a livecd and try to inspect the SMART data first. |
| 10:08.12 | enouf | \amethyst: should i name all the KDE and GNOME devs? |
| 10:08.33 | \amethyst | enouf: I meant the bash maintainer |
| 10:08.33 | jelly | Sero: it could be a transient error or overheating |
| 10:08.38 | mythomaniac | enouf, what are you talking about man only thing i have added was ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (for themes, icons and font settings), ~/.bash_login (for autostart of x) and ~/.xinitrc (for auto start of progs when awesome starts) - other then this no config file has been added or changed - so don't know why your so hostile |
| 10:08.46 | Sero | what's livecd? |
| 10:08.52 | enouf | \amethyst: i know what you meant |
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| 10:09.21 | \amethyst | enouf: and you're talking about the fact that the *DM sessions script don't source ~/.bash_profile ? |
| 10:09.33 | jelly | Sero: any distribution that can work directly off a CD = live cd. |
| 10:09.34 | p0g0 | Sero: A live CD is a bootable cd that loads a full OS and apps. |
| 10:09.39 | mythomaniac | enouf, and it seems stupid to think that because we all use debian that debian installs should be the same, especially given all things one can do with debian |
| 10:10.11 | Sero | ok. how do I shutdown a system when the shutdown command doesn't work? |
| 10:10.19 | Deepa | /sbin/halt? |
| 10:10.34 | Sero | Input/output error :)) |
| 10:10.36 | enouf | \amethyst: i gave up some time ago with the myther... i'm bowing out .. albeit late .. apologies |
| 10:10.48 | mythomaniac | lol |
| 10:11.02 | Sero | guess I need to climb up in the attic and kill the box by unplugging it :) |
| 10:11.08 | jelly | Sero: alt-sysrq-S, alt-sysrq-U, alt-sysrq-B key sequenct should boot it |
| 10:11.41 | jelly | Sero: that'd be a better idea than making it try to boot off that disk, yes |
| 10:12.07 | enouf | echo to /proc/sysrq-trigger |
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| 10:12.48 | enouf | you want an entry in /etc/sysctl.conf prior to use keypresses, IINM |
| 10:13.40 | jelly | Sero: if you don't have a working root shell, just unplug it |
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| 10:18.57 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 10:18.57 | dpkg | i heard qotd172 is <abrotman> !maint sex |
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| 10:19.45 | p0g0 | hey liable |
| 10:19.54 | liable | aloha p0g0 |
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| 10:22.06 | Sero | hm, booted the box - and everything seems normal ?... |
| 10:22.07 | omid8bimo | hey guys |
| 10:22.17 | liable | p0g0: back home again. ready to recive the wombat whenever you get chance |
| 10:22.18 | omid8bimo | how can i set compiz to auto start at lenny? |
| 10:22.35 | FilipeMaia | I'm having problems trying to install blender in sid. I get the following unresolved dependencies libavcodec51 (>= 0.svn20080206-8) but it is not installable. Does anyone know what this is about? |
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| 10:22.58 | p0g0 | liable: query? |
| 10:23.05 | liable | FilipeMaia: that sort of thing happens with unstable occasionally |
| 10:23.08 | liable | p0g0: sure |
| 10:23.28 | FilipeMaia | FilipeMaia, yea i know i was wondering if anyone here had already solved the problem |
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| 10:24.15 | FilipeMaia | Installing ibavcodec51 by hand seems to have fixed it. Still strange though |
| 10:24.46 | themill | judd versions libavcodec51 |
| 10:24.47 | judd | themill: libavcodec51 -- lenny: 0.svn20080206-17 squeeze: 0.svn20080206-17 lenny-multimedia: 3:20080706-0.3 |
| 10:24.51 | omid8bimo | how can i set compiz to auto start at lenny? |
| 10:24.54 | themill | (not in sid) |
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| 10:25.26 | FilipeMaia | themill, yes i installed it from squeeze |
| 10:26.12 | FilipeMaia | themill, for sid only packages for kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 and m68k exist |
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| 10:34.29 | mythomaniac | \amethyst, just so you know i was able to fix it, it was indeed an issue with awesome and a few changes needed to be set withing the theme files |
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| 10:37.24 | jelly | themill: there's even libavcodec52! |
| 10:37.53 | themill | jelly: yeah... figured something like that was on the cards |
| 10:38.17 | jelly | that's what _is_ in sid, and suggests blender needs a rebuild |
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| 10:38.51 | themill | probably not just a rebuild, it will need tweaking on the control file |
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| 10:39.21 | jelly | sure, if you can vouch for the symbols and soname. :-) |
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| 10:40.10 | jelly | oh, you probably meant "more than just a rebuild" |
| 10:40.34 | themill | yes. The package names have actually changed -- debian/control will need editing. |
| 10:40.51 | jelly | shrugges |
| 10:41.36 | zmitya | hi all |
| 10:41.41 | themill | (and you get to hope that the API hasn't changed so much as to stop it from working... and then you get to wonder why you'd have versioned package names if that weren't the case) |
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| 10:42.47 | zmitya | I would like to fine tune my kernel / network stack for handling as many packets as possible |
| 10:42.54 | dacs | anyone here using Sprint USB wireless internet? i am trying to use it in my laptop...running lenny |
| 10:43.05 | OpenTokix | zmitya: you wanna have a sysctl.conf ? |
| 10:43.07 | jelly | themill: meet the new package... same as the old package! |
| 10:43.09 | zmitya | I need to send/recv many UDP packets ~172 bytes |
| 10:43.37 | zmitya | OpenTokix: ok, but what do I need to change through sysctl ? |
| 10:43.57 | OpenTokix | zmitya: http://pastebin.com/d2cd40c0f |
| 10:44.02 | OpenTokix | zmitya: I use this in my /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 10:44.07 | OpenTokix | zmitya: then sysctl -p |
| 10:44.51 | jelly | OpenTokix: um, those are mostly tcp tunables? |
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| 10:45.06 | OpenTokix | jelly: yeah, Wasn't that what he wanted? |
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| 10:45.40 | jelly | well, <zmitya> I need to send/recv many UDP packets ~172 bytes |
| 10:45.43 | valdyn | zmitya: why do you think that your kernel cant handle the given workload? |
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| 10:46.14 | zmitya | valdyn: I need to fine tune the network stack for RTP sessions |
| 10:46.24 | zmitya | for my RTPProxy app |
| 10:46.31 | valdyn | zmitya: that doesnt answer my question |
| 10:46.37 | zmitya | so I need to handle as many RTP sessions as possible |
| 10:47.13 | zmitya | valdyn: I need the max number of sessions as possible |
| 10:47.42 | valdyn | zmitya: then tune your application, not the kernel |
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| 10:48.42 | zmitya | valdyn: yuo don't understand me... My app is able to handle 60 000 packets / sec |
| 10:48.43 | dacs | anyone using this "Sierra wireless compass 597 EVDO Modem" |
| 10:49.16 | zmitya | valdyn: and I know that is possible to handle more than that, I need ~20% increase |
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| 10:50.28 | zmitya | valdyn: I know that the orig kernels are not optimised for these kind or traffic, that is why I need a doc about the topic |
| 10:51.13 | zmitya | so if you know one, please let me know :) don't try to dissuade me :) |
| 10:51.22 | jelly | zmitya: ##kernel might be more helpful |
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| 10:51.48 | jelly | (google too, but the assumption is you already went that route) |
| 10:51.56 | valdyn | zmitya: tunables are in /proc/sys/net/ipv4 |
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| 10:53.47 | zmitya | valdyn: thanks |
| 10:53.56 | zmitya | jelly: thanks, trying there |
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| 10:54.46 | oneforall | dvd95 wants libdvdread 0.9.7 . a sed of configure cures that sed -i -e "s|907|904|g" configure |
| 10:54.51 | valdyn | zmitya: i have no idea about this, however my first google hit seems to tell that you want to use mediaproxy, not rtpproxy |
| 10:55.06 | oneforall | thenit compiles with libdvdread 4.1.3 |
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| 10:56.16 | zmitya | valdyn: well, I wrote our RTPProxy for my company for our SIP service, I can't use mediaproxy |
| 10:56.38 | valdyn | zmitya: oh you arent talking about that known rtpproxy but custom software |
| 10:56.47 | zmitya | valdyn: yes, sure |
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| 10:57.35 | gunkamanti | is there any tool that lets you create pdf forms i'm not aware of? i could do it with open office, but thought maybe there's a specialized tool. like those forms you fill in at the doctor etc. |
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| 11:00.09 | enouf | oneforall: what's dvd95? |
| 11:00.20 | mythomaniac | dvd dl? |
| 11:00.28 | oneforall | another dvdshrink app |
| 11:00.32 | mythomaniac | ah |
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| 11:01.27 | enouf | gunkamanti: pdftk isn |
| 11:01.38 | enouf | gunkamanti: pdftk isn't good enough? |
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| 11:04.24 | dacs | modprobe -r ,goves me FATAL modname is in use |
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| 11:04.41 | dacs | what shall i do please? |
| 11:05.33 | enouf | dacs: modinfo <modulename> shows depends |
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| 11:06.16 | dacs | ok |
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| 11:06.41 | dacs | its is usbcore enouf |
| 11:07.00 | enouf | bingo |
| 11:07.26 | dacs | enouf: so -r this one |
| 11:07.47 | enouf | !tias |
| 11:07.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first |
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| 11:08.43 | enouf | !wayttd dacs |
| 11:08.43 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, dacs? |
| 11:08.48 | enouf | i mean really |
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| 11:11.23 | enouf | heh "evdo" .. another POS acronym |
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| 11:15.22 | dacs | enouf: sorry my work pc start virus scan and it become very slow |
| 11:15.39 | dacs | modprobe -r usbcore gave me the samething |
| 11:15.43 | enouf | heh |
| 11:16.41 | enouf | sounds like you need ##windows (and someone please qotd that virus and slow comment above) |
| 11:17.46 | gunkamanti | enouf: never heard of it, i'll check it out. right now i'm trying scribus for the first time |
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| 11:18.50 | p0g0 | gunkamanti: pdfedit might be useful to you too. |
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| 11:19.44 | mcbane | is there some way to overwrite the home field in the passwd that nis provides? |
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| 11:20.46 | gunkamanti | enouf: don't think pdftk can do what i want in this case, but sure is a nice tool, thx! will come in handy for other stuff in the future. |
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| 11:25.07 | gunkamanti | p0g0: pdfedit looks nice too. |
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| 11:25.57 | fungie | hello...one of my hard drives died and since i replaced it i cannot boot to my favorite os can someone help? this is fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/m66586f52 |
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| 11:26.54 | gunkamanti | but i was looking for some specialized app to create forms. looks like i'll have to try to do it with openoffice or scribus. |
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| 11:28.10 | enouf | gunkamanti: maybe someone in ##linux will have a decent suggestion, not sure |
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| 11:29.23 | beer | is there any news about kde 4 entering testing or sid? |
| 11:29.28 | zzz | hi |
| 11:29.55 | zzz | i need to find out all the dependecies for clamav |
| 11:30.22 | craigevil | beer: "on irc the debian-kde team dicussed the 30 march as date for uploading kde4 to unstable." |
| 11:30.28 | valdyn | zzz: aptitude install apt-rdepends |
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| 11:31.09 | [Elvis] | hej guys |
| 11:31.13 | [Elvis] | does top work with multi-core cpu |
| 11:31.20 | valdyn | [Elvis]: sure |
| 11:31.21 | craigevil | doesnt apt-cache show, list all the depends for an app |
| 11:31.24 | zzz | how dificult is to upgrade clamav on debian |
| 11:31.37 | valdyn | zzz: like aptitude install clamav? |
| 11:31.49 | beer | so kde 4 will soon enter usntable. Time for a early christmas |
| 11:31.50 | [Elvis] | valdyn |
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| 11:31.52 | zzz | i need to perform this on a production serrver |
| 11:31.53 | [Elvis] | so cpu load shows total load? |
| 11:31.55 | [Elvis] | over all cores? |
| 11:32.04 | valdyn | zzz: one more reason to use aptitude or apt-get |
| 11:32.29 | valdyn | [Elvis]: hit the 1 button to see it per cpu |
| 11:32.37 | valdyn | [Elvis]: 1 key even |
| 11:32.53 | craigevil | beer: time to remove kde when kde4 hits sid :) |
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| 11:34.00 | beer | craigevil: just kde3 that will be removed |
| 11:34.04 | beer | ?? |
| 11:34.10 | valdyn | zzz: whats the actual problem? |
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| 11:35.06 | tax0n | hi |
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| 11:35.31 | zzz | valdyn: i want to know exactly what packages/dependencies uses clamav |
| 11:35.50 | anoHito | what do i do with .htaccess to get a standard 400 error page when access to www.mysite.com/test/index.html ? the index.html is located in /var/www/html/ |
| 11:35.51 | valdyn | zzz: and apt-rdepends doesnt do what you want? |
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| 11:36.47 | craigevil | beer: not for me, kde4 sucks once it hits sid im removing kde and using lxde |
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| 11:36.56 | valdyn | zzz: automatic tools dont know how or if you set up clamav in your mail queue |
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| 11:37.11 | zzz | valdyn: because i need to perform an upgrade of clamav on a production machine |
| 11:37.29 | [Elvis] | ok valdyn this is very weird |
| 11:37.33 | [Elvis] | I'll show you a screenshot ok? |
| 11:37.38 | valdyn | [Elvis]: sure |
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| 11:38.06 | valdyn | zzz: you dont need to run apt-rdepends on that production box |
| 11:38.15 | [Elvis] | http://www.warfields.nl/weird.jpg <- valdyn |
| 11:38.15 | valdyn | zzz: do it on the clone you use for testing or wherever |
| 11:38.23 | tax0n | I'd like to use a debian repository to hold an extended, distributed multimedia collection. Is it possible to use 'section' fields in package control files to create a top-level structure different from the standard debian archive? |
| 11:38.37 | valdyn | [Elvis]: whats weird about this? |
| 11:38.43 | [Elvis] | 4% cpu usage, while the cores report 0,3 and 0 ? |
| 11:38.50 | valdyn | [Elvis]: they dont |
| 11:38.57 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 11:38.58 | [Elvis] | ah |
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| 11:39.03 | [Elvis] | didn't see the 3,7 sy |
| 11:39.06 | [Elvis] | what does that mean? |
| 11:39.07 | [Elvis] | sy ? |
| 11:39.08 | valdyn | [Elvis]: cpu0 reports 0.3%usr and cpu1 reports 3.7sy%, that makes 4 |
| 11:39.10 | tax0n | If so, how would I distinguish the multimedia repository from my software repositories? |
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| 11:39.18 | [Elvis] | system? |
| 11:39.25 | enouf | craigevil: ditto (to kde4 crap) |
| 11:39.28 | valdyn | [Elvis]: but usually its not that accurate, youre actually having a weird system in that values actually seem to match |
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| 11:39.58 | [Elvis] | is there anotherprogram |
| 11:39.58 | [Elvis] | tos ee what's going on? |
| 11:40.21 | snek | htop |
| 11:40.25 | valdyn | [Elvis]: which information are you missing? |
| 11:40.35 | valdyn | [Elvis]: htop is just a different ui, no new info |
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| 11:40.45 | snek | although it doesn't group threads per parent process |
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| 11:41.54 | valdyn | [Elvis]: normally the processes will not exactly match the sums shown at cpuX |
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| 11:42.43 | [Elvis] | hmm ok |
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| 11:43.48 | snek | yeah, i've noticed the same on our production servers hehe |
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| 11:43.52 | snek | sometimes the values are very confusing |
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| 11:44.09 | snek | i've seen processes take up over 120% cpu :S |
| 11:44.09 | valdyn | rounding errors alone make a huge error margin |
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| 11:46.14 | kamp2tux | my system is installed with debian lenny english version, but i wish to view chinese characters displayed in the web. please advise what to install to allowing this. TQ |
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| 11:46.27 | valdyn | kamp2tux: the proper fonts |
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| 11:47.14 | valdyn | kamp2tux: your webbrowser is also configurable as to which fonts use for which website encoding, but you dont need to touch that |
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| 11:50.51 | mcbane | how do I change the home directory with bash script? |
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| 11:51.20 | hoxu | mcbane, man usermod |
| 11:51.47 | mcbane | thanks hoxu |
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| 12:01.46 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 12:01.53 | [Elvis] | valdyn does it mean I can go up to 200% |
| 12:01.55 | [Elvis] | with 2 cpus |
| 12:01.57 | [Elvis] | in top? |
| 12:02.46 | valdyn | [Elvis]: yes |
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| 12:04.08 | jacco | hello |
| 12:04.38 | jacco | what LD and CC messages mean, during kernel compiling? |
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| 12:04.51 | Deepa | ld is linking isn't it? |
| 12:04.59 | jacco | CC = Cross Compiling ? |
| 12:05.00 | p0g0 | linker and compiler |
| 12:05.01 | Deepa | and cc the compiler? |
| 12:05.27 | jacco | ah ok, thanks |
| 12:05.43 | obfuscatr | if I can successfully connect to a windows share using Place > Connect to Server, how do I do that at the command line to mount that share somewhere? |
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| 12:06.31 | obfuscatr | (I tried mnt -t smbfs , but that failed with 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock') |
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| 12:07.25 | p0g0 | -t cifs , but I don't think that will help |
| 12:07.32 | OpenTokix | mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=B4r,uid=localuser,gid=localgroup //server/sharename /mount/to/point |
| 12:07.57 | Deepa | Isn't it \\server\sharename? |
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| 12:09.01 | OpenTokix | no |
| 12:09.08 | OpenTokix | in windows yes, uunix no |
| 12:09.12 | OpenTokix | HOWEVER, I think both works =) |
| 12:09.27 | OpenTokix | ,rsize=65536,wsize=65536 is nice to add also |
| 12:10.28 | obfuscatr | ah, thanks.. i did mount -cifs, and it's user rather than username |
| 12:10.45 | valdyn | smbfs is unmaintained |
| 12:10.47 | valdyn | pretty much |
| 12:10.48 | p0g0 | obfuscatr: you can leave out the password in the line OpenTokix gave you, and you'll be prompted for it, if you prefer that. SMBFS has been deprecated, iirc. |
| 12:10.58 | OpenTokix | yeah, cifs then |
| 12:11.00 | valdyn | obfuscatr: you should be using cifs |
| 12:11.05 | OpenTokix | yes, you should |
| 12:11.09 | OpenTokix | old habit from me |
| 12:11.10 | OpenTokix | cifs |
| 12:11.23 | valdyn | smbfs just for really old machines, maybe win95 |
| 12:11.39 | p0g0 | valdyn: OS2 sourced, iirc |
| 12:11.42 | OpenTokix | yes, we have passed this subject now |
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| 12:11.54 | valdyn | p0g0: hmm? i dont get it |
| 12:12.08 | OpenTokix | mount -t cifs -o username=foo,password=B4r,uid=localuser,gid=localgroup,rsize=65536,wsize=65536 //server/sharename /mount/to/point |
| 12:12.26 | p0g0 | valdyn: it's older than win95, introduced as IBM LanManager SMB |
| 12:12.38 | p0g0 | valdyn: in OS2 |
| 12:12.45 | valdyn | p0g0: yea, but maybe win95 needs smbfs? |
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| 12:13.01 | p0g0 | valdyn: ah, yes. I'd guess it would |
| 12:13.03 | valdyn | p0g0: i was just trying to guess the newest version that cant do cifs, i dont really know |
| 12:13.12 | tax0n | Is it possible to re-write the 'section' structure in a personal repository to reflect a different top-level structure? Also, how could this be separated from the the debian archive? |
| 12:13.21 | p0g0 | valdyn: anything before win2k, I think |
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| 12:13.55 | valdyn | tax0n: you can use whatever directory structure you want for packages |
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| 12:14.18 | tax0n | I want to build a library using debian package management to handle a distributed collection and debtags to enforce a unique detailed faceted classification scheme |
| 12:14.47 | tax0n | does apt not take the software sections from the 'section' tag in package control files? |
| 12:14.58 | valdyn | tax0n: however the dists directory you have to work around if you dont use it, thats not exactly nice |
| 12:15.32 | valdyn | tax0n: apt certainly does not, dpkg-scanpackages might |
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| 12:16.28 | tax0n | valdyn, yes, I want to avoid introducing my own top-level sections to the system software archive |
| 12:16.39 | anoHito | In debian etch,how can i custum the default apache welcome page ? repalce it with a real generated standard 400 error page ? |
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| 12:17.13 | anoHito | forget about to do it with just paste stuff in /var/www/html/index.html,that sucks |
| 12:17.13 | anoHito | any clue ? |
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| 12:17.55 | valdyn | tax0n: access "deb http://server/ . ." sections can be "." for current directory or even ../ |
| 12:17.59 | icebrain | ]/quit |
| 12:18.18 | stuarticus | Can someone please advise me on ssh, I have installed, and can access the machine, but the password isn't accepted, is it the same as the account password, or is it set elsewhere? |
| 12:18.34 | tax0n | anoHito, look up the 'directory' directive in httpd.conf; create 'Alias' and 'Directory' entries in the httpd.conf file to point to your files. |
| 12:18.47 | valdyn | stuarticus: ssh password = login password |
| 12:19.03 | anoHito | tax0n, would you wait,let me check |
| 12:19.26 | tax0n | I can't promise to but I'll likely still be here |
| 12:19.45 | anoHito | tax0n, would you write them down for me please ? i am a noob |
| 12:19.56 | valdyn | anoHito: read the docs? |
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| 12:20.00 | stuarticus | weird. it's being rejected... Where would errors be logged? |
| 12:20.12 | xoz | stuarticus: try ssh -vvv |
| 12:20.17 | tax0n | no, sorry - that's the extent of my help: I suggest you read the apache documentation pages looking for what I mentioned. |
| 12:20.22 | valdyn | stuarticus: /var/log/auth.log on the server |
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| 12:20.35 | anoHito | oh ,pity |
| 12:20.41 | tax0n | yeah |
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| 12:21.04 | anoHito | by the way, where is welcome.conf located in debian ? |
| 12:21.05 | valdyn | tax0n: its easier to start with what debian provides and read the default site at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 12:21.07 | nick4 | I am trying to install KDE 4.2 on Squeeze through synaptic but I am meeting unmet dependencies. Here is my source.list: http://pastebin.com/m56ad8fbc |
| 12:21.23 | valdyn | tax0n: ops, wrong target |
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| 12:21.25 | valdyn | anoHito: ^^ |
| 12:21.31 | tax0n | /etc/motd ? |
| 12:21.33 | stuarticus | Ah, it seems to be trying to log me in as root! Can't have that, will check ssh conf |
| 12:21.42 | tax0n | anoHito, /etc/motd |
| 12:21.47 | abrotman | nick4: so you're mixing testing/unstable and trying to add experimental? |
| 12:21.54 | xoz | stuarticus: ssh -l username |
| 12:21.58 | valdyn | motd is generated |
| 12:22.00 | anoHito | motd: symbolic link to `/var/run/motd' |
| 12:22.10 | nick4 | abrotman to apt-pin, although I haven't apt-pinned yet any package |
| 12:22.17 | xoz | stuarticus: perhaps you are root right now. |
| 12:22.29 | abrotman | nick4: if oyu're not pinning, you're likely running unstable now |
| 12:22.49 | stuarticus | I am, trying to log into localhost as other machine here window |
| 12:22.51 | anoHito | tax0n, thanks,but i meant the apache welcome page, some people say this can be found in a file named welcome.conf |
| 12:22.56 | tax0n | valdyn, it probably is; I'm just learning apache and faced a similar problem |
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| 12:23.02 | valdyn | anoHito: grep motd /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
| 12:23.10 | valdyn | tax0n: thats a debian specialty i think |
| 12:23.13 | nick4 | abrotman hmmm I think it's Testing that I am running. Should I remove those repos? |
| 12:23.26 | abrotman | nick4: i'm telling you that you're likely not running testing anymore |
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| 12:23.44 | abrotman | nick4: anywways .. paste the output of what you're having trouble with .. paste.debian.net |
| 12:23.46 | nick4 | abrotman can I go back to Testing? |
| 12:23.48 | abrotman | no |
| 12:23.52 | xoz | stuarticus: ssh -l <yourname> <remotemachine> |
| 12:23.53 | nick4 | oops :-X |
| 12:23.55 | valdyn | tax0n: because debian tries to help maintain config files, other distros dont do that, and upstream apache2 certainly cant do that |
| 12:24.00 | nick4 | ok, let me do this |
| 12:24.11 | abrotman | you can change to 'squeeze' and remove the unstable, and wait it out, but i don't think your system will be very happy |
| 12:24.21 | Deepa | ssh user@machine <3 |
| 12:24.33 | nick4 | abrotman but I have higher priorities on /etc/preferances |
| 12:24.37 | tax0n | valdyn, so, are there no built-in restrictions as to what 'section' values in control files can be? |
| 12:24.43 | abrotman | nick4: i thought you said you weren't pinning yet? |
| 12:24.50 | stuarticus | Configuring for use by widows clients, though |
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| 12:25.00 | anoHito | i cant find it out |
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| 12:25.09 | nick4 | abrotman by that I meant I havent installed a package from Unstable or Experimental |
| 12:25.11 | anoHito | where is the apache welcome.conf located in debian ? |
| 12:25.11 | nick4 | (yet) |
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| 12:25.19 | abrotman | nick4: oh okay |
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| 12:25.27 | abrotman | nick4: so paste your issues in thep astebin |
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| 12:25.30 | stuarticus | Got it, thanks everyone |
| 12:25.34 | nick4 | yes, just a sec |
| 12:25.35 | valdyn | tax0n: ive been talking about something else all this time, but no i dont think theres any limits |
| 12:25.46 | valdyn | tax0n: i'd be careful with non-ascii signs though |
| 12:25.52 | tax0n | valdyn, that sounds like a better solution - if debian keeps seperate httpd.conf files for each site |
| 12:26.05 | xoz | tax0n: dpkg -L <apacheversion> |
| 12:26.21 | xoz | tax0n: it is somewhere out there |
| 12:26.22 | tax0n | xoz? |
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| 12:26.45 | tax0n | xoz, anoHito is asking about apache |
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| 12:26.53 | xoz | tax0n: try /usr/share/<apacher>/default-site |
| 12:26.59 | xoz | tax0n: ah |
| 12:27.05 | anoHito | tax0n, It is debian related |
| 12:27.06 | tax0n | yeah |
| 12:27.13 | nick4 | abrotman here is my problem when I try to install kde4: http://pastebin.com/m1b6fa1e0 .. And this is my /etc/apt/preferances: http://pastebin.com/m631c8cba |
| 12:27.30 | tax0n | anoHito, I'm not a member of the 'ot-police' don't worry |
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| 12:27.43 | xoz | anoHito: see my recent message to tax0n. it was for you. |
| 12:27.48 | anoHito | i dont have such a file in /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf |
| 12:28.09 | abrotman | nick4: i'd probably ask #debian-kde how you should have that pinned up |
| 12:28.10 | xoz | anoHito: check /usr/share/apache |
| 12:28.13 | tax0n | afaik no file exists in apache |
| 12:28.18 | valdyn | anoHito: you need to use what debian provides, thats documented |
| 12:28.23 | nick4 | ok abrotman, thanks :) |
| 12:28.44 | tax0n | the welcome message is in the html file the httpd.conf has been told to use as your default site's index page |
| 12:28.46 | abrotman | hrm |
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| 12:30.01 | tax0n | valdyn, why is it not wise to use non-ascii signs in 'section' names (not that I was planning that) |
| 12:30.28 | valdyn | tax0n: because dpkg is very old, and i dont know how it treats those characters |
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| 12:30.44 | valdyn | tax0n: and if tools will parse non-asci characters consistently |
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| 12:32.51 | ekimus | hi all. I'm struggling with libnss-ldap and rfc2307bis. What i get from getent group is "testers:*:5001:cn=Dummy,uid=john.doe,ou=People,dc=marcher,dc=name" i have set "nss_schema rfc2307bis" in libnss-ldap.conf Any ideas what to set so that it will work? |
| 12:32.53 | tax0n | I was reading the 'debtags' page on alioth and it suggests using 'debtags' instead of 'section' fields to categorise software. That sounds interesting. I noticed synaptic doesn't seem to have a function for setting up filters based on debtags. It doesn't seem to recognise them at all at in top level searches. |
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| 12:33.54 | abrotman | tax0n: so use debtags directly |
| 12:34.00 | valdyn | tax0n: debtags is newer, has its own ui or "plugins" for aptitude |
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| 12:35.09 | tax0n | yes, I've seen them in aptitude. Debtags will work better for what I need. |
| 12:35.14 | christoz | hello, the update notification icon on the panel, when i click it, does not show me the available updates (not responding), i can only install them |
| 12:35.27 | christoz | i use debian testing |
| 12:35.48 | tax0n | but it would be good to find a way of getting it to work in synaptic |
| 12:35.49 | christoz | anyone with the same problem? |
| 12:36.21 | xoz | christoz: nope. often use terminal to update and upgrade.. |
| 12:36.29 | abrotman | christoz: i killed that thing a long time ago .. i found it way too buggy |
| 12:36.36 | valdyn | tax0n: debian does not seem to be trying to make synaptic as well asupported as aptitude |
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| 12:36.50 | abrotman | "You have updates, oh whoops, I was wrong" all day long |
| 12:36.56 | tax0n | a wild guess, do you have synaptic open christoz ? |
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| 12:37.06 | valdyn | tax0n: maybe some debian based distro does do this, but *I* wouldnt rely on that |
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| 12:37.13 | christoz | xoz, yeah as a matter of functionality , it works perfectly, but you know, if something is not working , you cannot ignore it |
| 12:37.34 | christoz | tax0n, no |
| 12:37.34 | abrotman | i can, i just killed it :) |
| 12:37.44 | christoz | hehe |
| 12:38.08 | xoz | christoz: problem with gui is that it does not spit the error in an obvious way. perhaps if you can tell us the error message? |
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| 12:38.24 | tax0n | valdyn, I prefer aptitude and console tools but if I want to open the repository up to a....'wider' userbase synaptic would be the shortest learning curve |
| 12:38.30 | christoz | no error messgage through the gui app |
| 12:38.35 | xoz | christoz: then you will be force to go to terminal to know the error message. |
| 12:38.39 | christoz | yes |
| 12:38.42 | abrotman | tax0n: aptitude does have a "GUI" |
| 12:39.01 | christoz | what's package name? update-notifier or smth? |
| 12:39.12 | valdyn | christoz: yes |
| 12:39.42 | xoz | christoz: most likely, the app should be triggered when you click the mouse....but maybe the link is not there. |
| 12:39.50 | tax0n | abrotman, do you mean the console gui or a GTK front-end? |
| 12:39.51 | valdyn | tax0n: what about aptitude-gtk ? |
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| 12:39.58 | abrotman | tax0n: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/aptitude-gtk .. not even in unstable yet .. but i'd guess soon-ish ? |
| 12:40.35 | wirry | christoz: i got the same problem...and if you start the updatemanager at the menu u can only update information, but not install them, right? |
| 12:40.36 | tax0n | that's good news; I'll check that out later. |
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| 12:41.23 | tax0n | thanks. |
| 12:41.24 | abrotman | maybe i should ask panthera some day .. |
| 12:41.27 | christoz | wirry, ican install the updates, but i cannot see them as a list with their descriptions |
| 12:41.35 | valdyn | tax0n: no debtags support either |
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| 12:42.19 | tax0n | oh, well - maybe by the time I get this project in 'userable' shape there will be. It's not a massive problem - just a concern for 'somewhere down the road'. |
| 12:42.28 | wirry | hmm..try starting it with the gnome-menu |
| 12:43.10 | wirry | system -> system management or something like that |
| 12:43.28 | valdyn | tax0n: you want to try adept |
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| 12:44.05 | christoz | wirry, this runs perfectly, but through the update notification icon on the panel, cannot run |
| 12:44.11 | tax0n | makes a note |
| 12:44.36 | tax0n | I'm off to work on this now. Thanks for the advice valdyn , abrotman |
| 12:45.45 | wirry | then we got exactly the same problem |
| 12:45.55 | wirry | im also running testing |
| 12:46.31 | wirry | or well...can you install the updates with the "install now" button? |
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| 12:49.07 | christoz | wirry, yes |
| 12:49.45 | christoz | obviously it's a little bug, you are the 3rd person that confirms it Wicked |
| 12:49.49 | christoz | wirry sorry |
| 12:50.40 | wirry | well i cant...it only checks again for new updates |
| 12:50.57 | wirry | i have to install them per synaptics/apt-get upgrade |
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| 12:56.45 | divad | someone could give advice on ways to improve performance of courier-imap? |
| 12:56.58 | divad | sometimes it's really slow on reading / refreshing folder contents |
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| 12:58.40 | phm__ | ARGH. apache2 won't start. it just says: Starting web server (apache2)... failed! It was working before. any ideas? |
| 12:58.52 | BCM43 | I have an acer aspire one on which I have installed Debian. I listen to music on external speakers, so long as they are self powered, however headphones and unpowered speakers do not work. Would anybody have an idea as to what might be wrong? |
| 12:59.18 | Deepa | phm__: check hte logs |
| 12:59.54 | Deepa | You broke something |
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| 13:03.35 | kamp2tux | pls assist me on how to install the 64-bit flash player plugin (.so) downloaded from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html |
| 13:03.43 | phm__ | where are the logs? |
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| 13:04.15 | Deepa | /var/log |
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| 13:04.36 | Deepa | Check your configuration files |
| 13:04.55 | OpenTokix | kamp2tux: copy the so to /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
| 13:04.57 | d-b-windowz | !moo |
| 13:04.57 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 13:06.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | how can i ask dpkg (bot) to tell about bzr migration from sid -> testing? |
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| 13:07.12 | lord_rob | Hi ! I've updated my sid's package list today and all packages are marked untrusted in aptitude. How can I fix that ? |
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| 13:07.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | lord_rob, try updating the package lists again, it might have skipped some files |
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| 13:08.27 | BCM43 | I have an acer aspire one on which I have installed Debian. I listen to music on external speakers, so long as they are self powered, however headphones and unpowered speakers do not work. Would anybody have an idea as to what might be wrong? |
| 13:09.05 | Deepa | low volume? |
| 13:09.16 | BCM43 | Deepa, really low |
| 13:09.24 | Deepa | Then raise it |
| 13:09.40 | BCM43 | Deepa, i have, all the way, with alsa mixer, nothing is on mute |
| 13:09.58 | lord_rob | thanks Kamping_Kaiser it was the solution :) |
| 13:10.13 | BCM43 | Deepa, works fine with the volume not up all they way on external speaker |
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| 13:10.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | lord_rob, np |
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| 13:12.01 | valdyn | !why is bzr not in testing |
| 13:12.01 | dpkg | bzr is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=bzr |
| 13:12.03 | valdyn | Kamping_Kaiser: ^^ |
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| 13:12.24 | techouse | any germans here? i need a sentence translated |
| 13:12.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | valdyn, bril, thanks a lot! |
| 13:12.35 | valdyn | techouse: leo.org |
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| 13:13.18 | techouse | valdyn: professional, not google translate style :P |
| 13:13.29 | techouse | i need it for a website i'm working on |
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| 13:14.23 | valdyn | techouse: which website? |
| 13:14.35 | techouse | www.kilc.si |
| 13:14.48 | techouse | only slovenian works for the moment |
| 13:15.03 | techouse | i'll set up all the foreighn langs up this week |
| 13:15.12 | techouse | but i'm still missing some translations |
| 13:15.28 | valdyn | techouse: ok i like your product, but do this in msg, its offtopic |
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| 13:15.45 | techouse | heh :D |
| 13:15.59 | valdyn | techouse: but this site is flash infested |
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| 13:16.07 | techouse | yea |
| 13:16.08 | techouse | :) |
| 13:16.19 | techouse | wut's wrong with flash? :D |
| 13:16.26 | nick4 | it flashes :P |
| 13:16.32 | valdyn | techouse: non-free. no workie on iphone |
| 13:16.42 | techouse | lol |
| 13:16.48 | techouse | nothing is free today |
| 13:16.56 | valdyn | i love apple for just that |
| 13:17.01 | techouse | and let's not discuss the ifail :) |
| 13:17.03 | nick4 | the plugin is, the money comes from other things |
| 13:17.11 | techouse | besides, im gonna make some flash lite mobile website |
| 13:17.24 | valdyn | techouse: iphones have no flash support at all |
| 13:17.29 | nick4 | ouch! a site built entirely on flash |
| 13:17.35 | enouf | !shoot flash |
| 13:17.35 | dpkg | blows flash away with a German Luger |
| 13:17.37 | valdyn | techouse: now if you want me to translate, /msg the sentence |
| 13:17.56 | techouse | oh :) |
| 13:17.57 | lord_rob | hasn't adobe released flash specs ? |
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| 13:18.04 | zamuro | nick4: Well... Customers just love that kind of crap. |
| 13:18.09 | enouf | !nuke flash |
| 13:18.09 | dpkg | fires an 80 megaton thermonuclear weapon at flash |
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| 13:18.23 | zamuro | So maybe web "designers" just do what the customers wants. |
| 13:18.25 | lord_rob | like pdf specs |
| 13:18.29 | kamp2tux | can you please assist me how to install Microsoft Fonts in debian Lenny 64-bit. thanks |
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| 13:18.47 | zamuro | kamp2tux: Did you try google it? |
| 13:18.56 | techouse | valdyn: nokias have flash lite |
| 13:18.58 | techouse | :) |
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| 13:19.10 | zamuro | There's plenty of howtos out there |
| 13:19.15 | valdyn | techouse: thats no market share compared to iphone, i think |
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| 13:19.27 | techouse | wut? |
| 13:19.37 | techouse | nokia = symbian |
| 13:19.43 | techouse | = 90% of smartphones |
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| 13:20.00 | nick4 | zamuro yes they do love it, unless you tell them the negetive aspects of an all-flash site. If they still want it, well they get what they deserve :P |
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| 13:20.31 | DjSeXxX | I need to extract the software drivers from the Debian NetInstall CD |
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| 13:20.49 | zamuro | nick4: Indeed... Sometimes you just have to join them istead of fighting them. |
| 13:20.52 | DjSeXxX | and to put them on the Gentoo LiveCD |
| 13:20.54 | zamuro | instead* |
| 13:20.55 | DjSeXxX | is it possible? |
| 13:21.01 | CcSsNET | DjSeXxX there called modules |
| 13:21.11 | DjSeXxX | exactly |
| 13:21.12 | zamuro | lol... "drivers" |
| 13:21.18 | DjSeXxX | but I don't find them on my Debian CD |
| 13:21.38 | CcSsNET | and no its not exactly possible or highly unlikely |
| 13:21.46 | DjSeXxX | ok thanks |
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| 13:22.03 | zamuro | And there goes another satisfied customer |
| 13:22.10 | CcSsNET | lol |
| 13:22.35 | CcSsNET | i was even going to explain |
| 13:22.38 | CcSsNET | but o well |
| 13:22.44 | lord_rob | :) |
| 13:23.09 | Heavy-D | Hey guys i'm trying to set up a cron job that mails out a log file to an email address... how do I email the log file using a script? |
| 13:23.20 | zamuro | Well... guess a friend of mine was right after all: five worst words ever spoken are "the customer is always right" |
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| 13:24.27 | CcSsNET | zamuro depends in what context :P |
| 13:24.55 | nick4 | zamuro never fight the client! Just charge him/her more! :P |
| 13:25.15 | zamuro | nick4: LOL!!! I'll just do that from now on :P |
| 13:25.34 | CcSsNET | it works |
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| 13:25.41 | zamuro | is there a way to run tomcat as a module for httpd? |
| 13:26.00 | zamuro | I mean, I'm already running apache, but I need to run tomcat as well... |
| 13:26.28 | zamuro | Using same port 80, if possible. |
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| 13:27.04 | tux91 | Hello everybody. Pidgin 2.4.3 (lenny) doesn't connect to ICQ saying 'client too old'. What would be the best way to upgrade it? Download from getdeb.net? |
| 13:27.19 | elijahwright | zamuro: use the connector module that's made to make apache frontend tomcat. |
| 13:27.26 | elijahwright | mod_jk or mod_tomcat |
| 13:27.50 | zamuro | elijahwright: I'll take a look. |
| 13:28.11 | abrotman | tux91: those packages are not for debian |
| 13:28.19 | trentster | Any scriptfu guru here know if there is a simple way to get vsftpd log entries like this "Mon Mar 16 15:18:46 2009 4 10.1.17.9 117235 /H-CARD/TEMPLATES/InDesign/Pocket Card Size/10 Panel Pocket Z-Card.inx b _ i r zcard ftp 0 * c" toremove the spaces from the file names? This is needed as with spaces will not import into awstats and gives an error. |
| 13:28.22 | tux91 | abrotman: won't they work on debian? |
| 13:28.24 | trentster | any ideas? |
| 13:28.25 | elijahwright | zamuro: the java connector space has evolved a bit over the years, and i'm probably out of date - so you might need different package names now. |
| 13:28.26 | abrotman | can't figure out how people confuse "Packages for Ubuntu" with meaning they're for debian |
| 13:28.38 | abrotman | tux91: is ubuntu the same as debian? |
| 13:28.47 | CcSsNET | yes |
| 13:28.51 | CcSsNET | actually |
| 13:28.56 | abrotman | no, wrong |
| 13:28.56 | CcSsNET | :P |
| 13:29.02 | tux91 | abrotman: ubuntu is kindof debian unstable isn't it? They both use deb packages |
| 13:29.03 | CcSsNET | i claim it is |
| 13:29.08 | homecable | CcSsNET msg me |
| 13:29.10 | abrotman | that'll get oyu banned here |
| 13:29.22 | abrotman | tux91: not really .. they have their own packages and set of patches |
| 13:29.34 | tux91 | abrotman: so, what should i do? |
| 13:29.45 | abrotman | tux91: how badly do you need ICQ? |
| 13:29.55 | tux91 | abrotman: a lot) I'm from Russia |
| 13:30.04 | enouf | with love? |
| 13:30.07 | abrotman | wonders what nationality has to do with it ... |
| 13:30.22 | jpinx | censorship |
| 13:30.27 | tux91 | Pretty much everybody uses ICQ in Russia |
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| 13:30.40 | abrotman | be nice if the pidgin maintainers would do a quick backport for lenny ... |
| 13:30.47 | abrotman | !tell tux91 about ssb |
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| 13:31.30 | scarstream | i get all that russian spam with ICQ, at least i think it's russian |
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| 13:31.44 | yitz_ | How do I get the MD5 sum of a newly burned ISO to verify? |
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| 13:31.51 | abrotman | tux91: but once an "official" backport shows up at backports.org, i'd use that one instead of your home cooked one |
| 13:32.07 | tux91 | abrotman: can't i get and install a deb package from unstable or testing? |
| 13:32.14 | abrotman | no |
| 13:32.20 | tux91 | abrotman: why not? |
| 13:32.25 | enouf | ... |
| 13:32.30 | abrotman | because they just broke it a week ago |
| 13:32.38 | tux91 | oh crap |
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| 13:32.44 | abrotman | the versoin in testing isn't new enough .. the one in unstable might be |
| 13:32.55 | yitz_ | nvm. md5sum /dev/cdrom |
| 13:32.58 | tux91 | so there's pretty much nothing i can do?? |
| 13:33.09 | abrotman | the bot told you how to make your own backport |
| 13:33.25 | tux91 | abrotman: not really) |
| 13:33.28 | abrotman | !ssb |
| 13:33.29 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
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| 13:34.47 | abrotman | and i'd read that carefully |
| 13:34.55 | abrotman | judd: versions pidgin |
| 13:34.55 | tux91 | ok thanks a lot |
| 13:34.56 | judd | abrotman: pidgin -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.4.3-4 squeeze: 2.5.4-2 sid: 2.5.5-1 |
| 13:35.06 | abrotman | i think the 2.5.5 in sid will be okay with the protocol change |
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| 13:37.00 | flourish | hi, any command begin with colon? such as :> |
| 13:37.08 | mcbane | can I use something like folder1/folder2/homedir as mountpoint in autofs or does it only support flat hirachies? |
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| 13:37.39 | flourish | and howto find the means of command ":>" ? |
| 13:38.31 | themill | flourish: help : |
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| 13:39.07 | flourish | No effect; the command does nothing. A zero exit code is returned. |
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| 13:39.17 | jelly | flourish: that's true |
| 13:39.26 | jelly | (pun intended) |
| 13:39.47 | flourish | but i wonder why ":>" stands for clear file content? |
| 13:39.53 | oz123 | hi can someone help with problems related to torque on debian cluster ? |
| 13:40.07 | jelly | flourish: the shell builtin ":" does almost exactly the same thing as /bin/true |
| 13:40.25 | petemc | its shorthand for true, no? |
| 13:40.36 | flourish | any other similar command? |
| 13:40.41 | petemc | while : do foo ; done |
| 13:40.46 | jelly | flourish: the file is truncated with > and the 0 length output from : is redirected into it |
| 13:40.57 | petemc | missed a ; there |
| 13:41.10 | enouf | flourish: BASH-BUILTINS(7) BASH-BUILTINS(7) |
| 13:41.31 | jelly | flourish: one could do "cp /dev/null foo" instead of ": > foo" |
| 13:42.17 | flourish | thanks! |
| 13:42.23 | flourish | enouf: i cannot find this manual |
| 13:42.34 | jelly | but :> is also a nice smiley. |
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| 13:42.53 | flourish | :-) |
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| 13:42.58 | flourish | :< |
| 13:43.02 | flourish | this is cool |
| 13:43.06 | enouf | man bash-builtins says? |
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| 13:43.18 | jelly | help : |
| 13:43.21 | flourish | ok |
| 13:43.32 | jelly | (or in zsh, : <Esc>?) |
| 13:43.35 | enouf | bash: /usr/share/man/man7/bash-builtins.7.gz |
| 13:43.43 | jelly | er, esc-h |
| 13:43.58 | flourish | yes, i get it, thanks . |
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| 13:48.49 | enouf | interesting differences http://rafb.net/p/mRjNF151.html |
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| 13:49.41 | stew | enouf: yes, echo adds a \n unless you 'echo -n' |
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| 13:50.57 | enouf | stew: righto - also just noticed touch ./filename also uses 0 bytes |
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| 13:52.27 | jelly | enouf: not if the file already had some content |
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| 13:52.37 | enouf | jelly: indeed |
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| 13:53.36 | enouf | jelly: i should've clarified that - yep - there's no redirection/overwriting involved with touch, so really unrelated in that sense to the other two examples |
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| 14:01.03 | giaco | hello |
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| 14:02.53 | giaco | I've been told that "some other guy" had to delete a bunch of excessively big logs to free space on a server, now I am supposed to understand which log (or maybe a file?!) is the responsible because I can't contact that guy. Do you know a way to do this quickly? |
| 14:03.15 | azeem | giaco: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 14:03.31 | azeem | figure out what files got deleted and what their sizes were? |
| 14:03.49 | p0g0 | giacco: no backups, then, I take it? |
| 14:04.02 | giaco | azeem, I'm supposed to solve this growing problem, I was thinking about configuring an entry in logrotate |
| 14:04.18 | giaco | no backups |
| 14:04.26 | p0g0 | giaco: did they get deleted from a console- you might have some clues in the bash history. |
| 14:04.29 | giaco | he just deleted them to free space |
| 14:04.36 | giaco | ok |
| 14:05.26 | p0g0 | giaco: and what is wrong with deleting them? Do you want them back, or to know which files to delete in the future? |
| 14:05.52 | giaco | p0g0, the second option, and make it automatically |
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| 14:06.20 | giaco | it seems that the log (or backup? who knows) functions is broken and fills up the entire disk |
| 14:06.59 | abrotman | giaco: can you go through the command history to find what they deleted? |
| 14:07.27 | p0g0 | giaco: filelight or fsview may help you ascertain the files that are using lots of space. |
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| 14:09.14 | enouf | giaco: check /var/log/auth* if it wasn't deleted and sudo was used |
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| 14:10.18 | giaco | I think I've got it |
| 14:10.39 | giaco | thanks to the bash history and you guys |
| 14:11.25 | enouf | giaco: for newly appearing annoying files that need to be deleted, you could watch using something like "sudo find /var/log -mtime -10 -size +10485760c -type f -print'" |
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| 14:12.09 | rvsjoen_ | how would I get rid of "dpkg: error processing python-matplotlib", I can't install anything because stupid aptitude just exits on error |
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| 14:13.19 | rvsjoen_ | hm, actually it doesn't for some reason I thought it did |
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| 14:13.36 | giaco | enouf, thank you for the suggestion but it seems that the broken script is a daily backup script, not a log ... let me check it |
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| 14:15.27 | p0g0 | giaco: it sounds like a mount is failing and files are duped locally, not onto the remote filesystem. |
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| 14:16.32 | giaco | p0g0, no, lol, the point is that this admin keeps the backups on the same machine but another hd, that's the way he feels safe. Not my business :-P |
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| 14:18.13 | subsume | mail.log is empty. I'm trying to find out where mail is going. where should I check? |
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| 14:20.01 | octavio | hi ppl ... I need some help with my network connectino on debian (lenny) I dont know why but .. my connection is lost , it had been like that for about a week and a half ... but one they in the middle of that it just got back O_o |
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| 14:21.06 | octavio | the problem is that it connects with a self assignated ip address.... it doesnt matter that the cable is plugged in or not |
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| 14:21.56 | octavio | I was thinking that maybe my eth0 some how got .. its driver lost or something like that .. but then I cant explain why in that day it did connected |
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| 14:24.33 | jluisp | hi there, I'm working with gparted on a live-cd trying to shrink an hfs+ partition so I make some room for installling debian. I am a bit concern since it is taking a lot of time to do it, 2 hours already for shrinking a 150Gb partition by 10Gb (150 to 140Gb). My CPU is only at 20%. Does it usually takes that long? Thanks |
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| 14:26.47 | Freesaufer_ | hey |
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| 14:26.52 | Freesaufer_ | alles klar? |
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| 14:27.38 | abrotman | !de |
| 14:27.38 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). DE == Desktop Environment |
| 14:28.07 | Freesaufer_ | ```?? |
| 14:28.11 | abrotman | !!! |
| 14:28.11 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 14:28.15 | Freesaufer_ | ich kann deutsch reden :D |
| 14:28.18 | Freesaufer_ | oh |
| 14:28.19 | Freesaufer_ | sry |
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| 14:28.45 | Ongavezirke | Hozsanna brotha'z |
| 14:28.47 | seria-mau | lol |
| 14:28.53 | Ongavezirke | Heavy TrOLLz attak Warnin'! |
| 14:30.01 | tecneeq | kalpik: could be your harddisk in it's last RPM. or maybe a nfs mounted directory where the server isn't very dependable |
| 14:30.05 | xoz | jluisp_: it is possible. |
| 14:30.25 | xoz | jluisp_: check disk monitor if there are activities in disk |
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| 14:30.56 | tecneeq | kalpik: forget it, it was for jluisp_ |
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| 14:31.37 | subsume | where in god's name does debian keep postfix's error log? |
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| 14:31.52 | tecneeq | subsume: /var/log/mail i would guess |
| 14:31.55 | xoz | subsume: not in /var/log/? |
| 14:31.57 | subsume | nein |
| 14:31.58 | stew | subsume: /var/log/mail.log |
| 14:32.03 | subsume | mail.log = empty |
| 14:32.17 | tecneeq | that's tragic :) |
| 14:32.39 | tecneeq | sure your postfix runs at all? |
| 14:32.42 | stew | subsume: wherever you have syslog configured to send logs for the mail facility |
| 14:32.44 | i-pink | hii i want to install debian on 104 PC, CPUV vortex 300 MHz 128M ram 4 GB HDD |
| 14:33.05 | themill | subsume: /var/log/mail.{err,info,log,warn} are the default locations unless you've configured syslog or postfix otherwise. |
| 14:33.06 | tecneeq | i-pink: not possible, send hardware to me, go on with life ;) |
| 14:33.18 | octavio | hello .. I am wondering how can I know if my network card is detected? |
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| 14:33.25 | octavio | is there a command for that? |
| 14:33.28 | tecneeq | octavio: check ifconfig -a |
| 14:33.29 | jluisp_ | xoz, thank you for your answer. Fortunately, by the time I was checking the disk monitor it finished! cheers |
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| 14:33.45 | i-pink | tecneeq - without X server |
| 14:33.47 | tecneeq | octavio: ifconfig eth0 should show the first ethernet card |
| 14:34.00 | xoz | jluisp_: cool |
| 14:34.25 | tecneeq | i-pink: still, send your hardware to me. also, send all the cash in your pockets and don't forget that beer in your fridge |
| 14:34.29 | i-pink | hii i want to install debian on 104 PC, CPUV vortex 300 MHz 128M ram 4 GB HDD - without X server |
| 14:34.54 | octavio | tecneeq, but that give me thta status of the ip configuration .. is there any chance that I have a ip with out the network card be properly working |
| 14:34.59 | p0g0 | octavio: the detection step is earlier than ifconfig. You can lspci -vv to see if it is discovered by the PCI bus. |
| 14:35.24 | tecneeq | octavio: hmm, i'm not sure i understand what you are asking |
| 14:35.37 | xoz | i-pink: tried fai? |
| 14:36.04 | epsilon | 104 PCs? |
| 14:36.16 | xoz | is confused with i-pink |
| 14:36.19 | i-pink | is very small compeuter |
| 14:36.24 | epsilon | I'd clone the disc if same config |
| 14:36.29 | xoz | i-pink: not 104 pcs? |
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| 14:36.40 | p0g0 | epsilon: I'd guess he means a 104 key keyboard.... |
| 14:36.42 | octavio | p0g0, well it is listed in lspci -vv .... |
| 14:36.46 | i-pink | no!! |
| 14:36.49 | xoz | haha |
| 14:36.50 | tecneeq | i-pink: isn't a 104 basically just x86? i would say install on a disk in a different computer than plug the disk into your 104 |
| 14:36.51 | i-pink | is PC |
| 14:37.01 | epsilon | is confused |
| 14:37.07 | tecneeq | epsilon: :o) |
| 14:37.15 | p0g0 | octavio: is there a message in dmesg about the nic failing? |
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| 14:37.30 | xoz | i-pink: better change you pc to a pink pc :) |
| 14:37.35 | adam_ | what does this mean? -- /home/czar/tmp 192.168.1.1/24(rw,no_root_squash,async) |
| 14:37.40 | octavio | tenceeq... well the problem is that my pc conects with a selt assignated ip ...169.254.x.x |
| 14:37.40 | i-pink | http://www.icop.com.tw/pddetail.aspx?id=46&pid=4 |
| 14:37.42 | adam_ | it's in /etc/exports |
| 14:37.47 | adam_ | especially i don't get the 1/24 part. |
| 14:37.53 | octavio | and I dont have acces to internet |
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| 14:38.06 | tecneeq | adam_: it's a nfs export, the /24 is the netmask |
| 14:38.09 | xoz | adama: the is nfsmount where you cannot run as root in that filesystem |
| 14:38.20 | i-pink | xoz look at this link http://www.icop.com.tw/pddetail.aspx?id=46&pid=4 |
| 14:38.27 | p0g0 | octavio: you've issued a dhcp request, most likely- that's a config issue. |
| 14:38.53 | octavio | but I notice that, the led that should be turn green when the network card send info. never turn green .. so I suppse something else is wrong |
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| 14:39.20 | p0g0 | octavio: do you know the jetwork range of your LAN? Can you assign your own known good IP? |
| 14:39.23 | octavio | I already tried configure my ip address with ifconfig .. and it didnt work |
| 14:39.27 | p0g0 | *network |
| 14:40.27 | p0g0 | octavio: try, as root, ip neigh and see if you have any addresses listed there. |
| 14:41.02 | xoz | what happened to i-pink? |
| 14:41.02 | stew | (that doesn't require root) |
| 14:41.16 | p0g0 | stew: that for me? |
| 14:41.21 | stew | yes |
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| 14:42.59 | p0g0 | octavio: also, you should have packets sent and received listed in the ifconfig -a reply, if there are any received, the gear is working (maybe not perfectly, but working) |
| 14:43.17 | octavio | ip neigh return the ips that I had tried ping to ... but all failed |
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| 14:44.09 | p0g0 | octavio: you've tried dhclient ? |
| 14:44.09 | RiotingPacifist` | ive installed madwifi and compiled the modules but modprobe isnt finding them, do i need to update the list of modules somewhere? |
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| 14:44.30 | octavio | no I dont have any packets at ifconfig -a |
| 14:44.31 | p0g0 | RiotingPacifist`: depmod ? |
| 14:44.41 | xoz | RiotingPacifist`: depmod -a |
| 14:45.08 | RiotingPacifist` | thx |
| 14:45.11 | p0g0 | octavio: yeah, then you never negotiated the IP address from a DHCP server, and it was set locally by your own config. |
| 14:45.20 | octavio | and yes I had tried dhclient |
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| 14:46.09 | p0g0 | octavio: yeah, if dhclient wasn't able to move packets over the interface, it's likely down or b0rked. |
| 14:46.27 | octavio | and any idea what can it be .. cause it was really strange I mean I didn update anything in that days ... so I don-t know what is messed up |
| 14:46.57 | xoz | octavio: ifconfig shows eth0 ? |
| 14:47.06 | octavio | but I know that is not borked .. it works on windows.... |
| 14:47.36 | octavio | ifconfig shows eth1 ... at startup it say that it renames it to eth1 from eth0 |
| 14:47.50 | p0g0 | RiotingPacifist`: what kernel (do you already have ath5k installed)? |
| 14:48.10 | xoz | octavio: ok, and what is the message when you do dhclient eth1 |
| 14:48.55 | octavio | it say DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 |
| 14:48.57 | xoz | octavio: usually, if it cannot get ip from dhcp, it reverts to the private ip 192.... |
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| 14:49.11 | xoz | octavio: never got a valid ip offer? |
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| 14:49.53 | xoz | octavio: what's the ourput of: route -n |
| 14:50.06 | octavio | no, like p0g0 made me notice is like my eth. is not working ... but it should work O_o |
| 14:50.28 | qbwdp | hello, if i am going from etch to lenny, after changing my source file, do i do upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 14:50.39 | octavio | nothing O_o .. no routes |
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| 14:50.53 | xoz | octavio: sudo ifconfig eth1 returns some info? |
| 14:50.58 | abrotman | !tell qbwdp about lenny release notes |
| 14:51.03 | mbuf | backports can also include library packages for backward compatibility tests? |
| 14:51.13 | p0g0 | octavio: do you know a good IP address on your lan that you can ping? |
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| 14:51.47 | xoz | octavio: you can also do a static ip by making sure you are on the same network with your router... then try to ping your router. |
| 14:52.09 | p0g0 | octavio: if so, use ifconfig eth1 and set a good IP in the range of your lan, then ping -I ath1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 14:52.15 | p0g0 | oops |
| 14:52.21 | p0g0 | eth1 |
| 14:52.33 | xoz | octavio: unless you are in the same network by making sure you have the appropriate ip and netmask, you cannot ping any pc |
| 14:52.36 | octavio | I already tried configure my ip static but still didnt worked |
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| 14:53.05 | xoz | octavio: what is the error message when you do ifconfig ... |
| 14:53.21 | octavio | p0g0, I have tried send pings to a laptop and it doesnt answer |
| 14:53.48 | xoz | octavio: you cannot test ping until you fix your ip |
| 14:53.56 | xoz | octavio: it is useless |
| 14:54.41 | xoz | octavio: check your cable is not a problem. |
| 14:55.04 | xoz | very basic thing in the checklist. |
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| 14:55.15 | octavio | I know cable is not the problem ..like I say window in the same box do connect |
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| 14:55.54 | xoz | octavio: are you using lenny? or mix of lenny and tesing? |
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| 14:56.56 | keith4 | I feel like something here ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/roundcube.html ) is supposed to be able to tell me why roundcube isn't in lenny... but I don't see it. Can I get another set of eyes? |
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| 14:57.08 | octavio | lenny... (mixed with nvidea driver from testing and compiz) |
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| 14:57.19 | craigevil | keith4 check the BTS |
| 14:57.29 | themill | keith4: "Excuses" |
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| 14:58.02 | themill | keith4: or /msg dpkg why is roundcube not in testing |
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| 14:58.15 | keith4 | craigevil: good advice. thanks |
| 14:58.23 | keith4 | themill: brilliant |
| 14:58.23 | xoz | octavio: can you ping your static ip? |
| 14:58.51 | themill | keith4: ahh... sorry... lenny.... look at the News section and there's a "roundcube REMOVED from testing" notice |
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| 14:59.11 | keith4 | themill: right, i see the "REMOVED" notice. but... no reasons, really? |
| 14:59.24 | octavio | be back in a while ... need to do some stuff i the mind time .. thank for the help, jiji and hope to have new ideas... when I come back |
| 14:59.32 | themill | keith4: RoM == request of maintainer. Maintainer said "it's a buggy PoS and shouldn't be in lenny" |
| 14:59.44 | keith4 | ohhh. got it |
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| 15:00.53 | themill | keith4: there may or may not be specific security related bugs involved. More likely, it just has such a lousy security history and is so difficult to backport security fixes for that it's not able to be supported for the next 3 or 4 years hence shouldn't be in a stable release. |
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| 15:01.21 | keith4 | themill: yes... that *is* true. but it's so pretty! ;-) |
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| 15:01.38 | keith4 | AKA clients love its ajaxy-sexiness, even if it's a piece of crap package |
| 15:01.46 | themill | yay! pretty buginess! |
| 15:02.06 | keith4 | i'll make a new VM for it, I guess. thanks again |
| 15:02.30 | keith4 | themill: yah. you know what they say! fashion over function! |
| 15:02.45 | themill | *sob* |
| 15:03.10 | jelly | keith4: step 1) pay someone to port the sexy ajaxiness to squirrelmail step 2) ? step 3) profit! |
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| 15:04.00 | themill | keith4: it's not that it's lacking functionality. It just has slightly too many functions such as "execution of arbitrary commands" |
| 15:04.03 | keith4 | jelly: yah, seriously. i wish they would have just reskinned an existing project. the oddly mis-shaped wheels are really piling up |
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| 15:04.40 | keith4 | themill: yah... but if you ask the guys in #roundcube, a lof of that is distro-specific's fault (fedora?) |
| 15:05.07 | chaitanya | what is debian |
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| 15:05.31 | keith4 | chaitanya: www.debian.org |
| 15:05.32 | abrotman | !debian |
| 15:05.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 15:06.48 | themill | keith4: sure. All the problems are someone else's fault. How silly of me. |
| 15:07.14 | keith4 | themill: you're forgiven, this one time ;-) |
| 15:07.35 | themill | how sweet of you! |
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| 15:10.51 | kamp2tux | besides dmesg, what other command i can used to check the device name for my newly added harddisk (ntfs formated) ? TQ |
| 15:11.17 | keith4 | kamp2tux: fdisk -l? |
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| 15:12.23 | Isumi | cat /proc/partitions ? |
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| 15:14.35 | keith4 | and what's wrong with grepping dmesg? |
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| 15:15.23 | giaco | I've a process that's writing unnecessary backups to /home/backup/mysql but It's not easy to find out who's writing whose files. I've fetched the whole etc dir grepping backup but no success. Any idea? |
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| 15:16.12 | kamp2tux | keith4: what word to use to grep for the newly added disk ? |
| 15:16.18 | octavio | hi ppl I am back .. with my eth problem :s any one how can I test my network card? ... how can I test the driver o something like that |
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| 15:19.37 | keith4 | kamp2tux: what type of hardware is the new disk? |
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| 15:20.44 | kamp2tux | Seagate 500GB, cache 32MB, SATA |
| 15:20.48 | keith4 | kamp2tux: it's tough to say without more information... but something like this would probably work: dmesg | egrep "(s|h)d[a-z]:" |
| 15:21.03 | keith4 | oh, then you don't need the h |
| 15:21.09 | kamp2tux | wow! that's tough |
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| 15:21.26 | MurdinE | Is there a FTP to SFTP proxy/bridge package available? |
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| 15:21.52 | p0g0 | octavio: run it in windows, discover the assigned IP, return to linux set that IP- if that works, you know it's not the driver or the gear. |
| 15:22.07 | keith4 | kamp2tux: not the way i'd do it... but try: dmesg | egrep "sd[a-z]:" |
| 15:22.16 | cantoma | any ssh user friendly application like winscp for linux?? |
| 15:22.28 | ethanol | winscp blows |
| 15:22.29 | ethanol | lol |
| 15:22.29 | p0g0 | cantoma: scp |
| 15:22.32 | ethanol | putty ftw |
| 15:22.35 | keith4 | !tell cantoma about search |
| 15:22.47 | octavio | hey I just found this .. I didnt know this was possible https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/156496 .. read the topic |
| 15:23.05 | octavio | that is strange O_o |
| 15:23.09 | kamp2tux | keith4: what egrep ? is it better that just grep ? |
| 15:23.09 | prahal | anybody running texlive/pgf (tikz) . I cannot seem to get it working when using style "pre and post" for an edge ... wondered if it worked for somebody or if it was a bug in the tex package |
| 15:23.22 | Isumi | cantoma: sshfs |
| 15:23.28 | keith4 | kamp2tux: egrep, grep -e, whatever. read the grep manpage |
| 15:24.28 | cantoma | Isumi: does it brings any GUI? |
| 15:24.45 | Isumi | you mount the distant file system, then use it with any filemanager |
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| 15:25.50 | cantoma | Isumi: well i still find winscp more user friendly. any option without having to hit a terminal? |
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| 15:26.07 | Isumi | cantoma: i don't know then. |
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| 15:27.25 | Isumi | cantoma: try secpanel - A graphical user interface for SSH and SCP maybe |
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| 15:31.08 | octavio | I just see that I have the same problem in that topic I just pasted .. I never thought that windows could mess up my linux in that way :s |
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| 15:32.39 | aidehua | I just made a mess of my partition table :/ Is the partition table information lying around in /proc somewhere, perhaps? |
| 15:32.58 | Isumi | /proc/partitions ? |
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| 15:33.18 | aidehua | Ace. I think I can rebuild it from there. |
| 15:34.21 | p0g0 | aidehua: see gpart if you cannot. |
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| 15:34.47 | aidehua | I think that due to the free space gaps between some partitions, this is going to be hard :/ |
| 15:34.55 | aidehua | Can gpart help? |
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| 15:35.21 | cantoma | Isumi: i am having a look at it. When i ask him to connect it opens me a terminal. I realize there is a lot of options but i couldn't find a way of mounting the area. I guess a graphical interface that uses sshfs would be welcome!! |
| 15:35.24 | nareshov | aidehua: try fdisk, x, f, r, w |
| 15:35.44 | octavio | thanks for the help guys.. I am about to correct my problem |
| 15:35.47 | octavio | :p |
| 15:35.55 | Isumi | cantoma: i don't know if that exists, sorry |
| 15:35.59 | aidehua | nareshov: 'Fix partition order?' |
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| 15:36.29 | nareshov | aidehua: is that what you want to do? |
| 15:36.50 | nareshov | i guess not.. |
| 15:36.52 | nareshov | nvm |
| 15:37.00 | prahal | cantoma, why nautilus does not fit your needs (it allows to mount ssh ) |
| 15:37.04 | aidehua | I'd basically like to find the start of my partitions again, and write them in to the disk's partition table :) |
| 15:37.21 | aidehua | I've accidentally deleted one, and written the changes out to disk, and am finding it hard to 'undo'. |
| 15:37.27 | nareshov | o |
| 15:37.56 | aidehua | "pvscan | grep sda" is showing me the old partitions that I care about. |
| 15:38.11 | prahal | aidehua, gpart |
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| 15:41.42 | dick | helo |
| 15:43.56 | aidehua | prahal: p0g0: thanks for the tip. I've just read the man page, and I'm running gpart now. |
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| 15:44.53 | aidehua | It's not a massive problem: I periodically copy this hosts's data from one spindle to another, and I'm just running that again now, to take a fresh backup. |
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| 15:45.21 | aidehua | Let's hope I don't have a power cut right now, otherwise that would mean I wouldn't be able to reco |
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| 15:45.49 | aidehua | </joke> |
| 15:45.53 | nareshov | D: |
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| 15:52.46 | kamp2tux-away | what codec for me to play .wmv files ? TQ |
| 15:53.18 | kamp2tux-away | Totem allow me to view - but no sound |
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| 15:54.05 | js_ | you could try vlc or mplayer |
| 15:54.06 | kamp2tux-away | my system is running Lenny x64 |
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| 15:55.35 | kamp2tux-away | both vlc & mplayer can display the files, but no suitable codec to play audio |
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| 15:57.54 | monkey_d_luffy | What's the name of the package with the iconv util? I tried finding it with apt-cache and apt-file but too many hits :/ |
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| 15:58.02 | aamerik | hi |
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| 15:58.14 | aamerik | is it possible to downgrade from lenny to etch |
| 15:58.20 | aamerik | withouta reinstall |
| 15:58.22 | jelly | aamerik: not really. |
| 15:58.25 | aamerik | crap |
| 15:58.26 | aamerik | ok |
| 15:58.55 | aamerik | all i need from etch on my lenny install is php5 version |
| 15:58.59 | themill | monkey_d_luffy: "apt-file search bin/iconv" and I guarantee you already have it installed. |
| 15:59.11 | aamerik | is it easy to instruct apt to get php5 version from etch repositories |
| 15:59.14 | abrotman | aamerik: what's wrong with php in lenny ? |
| 15:59.23 | aamerik | it doesnt match my prod version |
| 15:59.35 | aamerik | and developer is complaining cos he cant reproduce a bug in dev |
| 15:59.38 | abrotman | isn't that kind of like a 'no duh' thing ? |
| 15:59.46 | abrotman | aamerik: so setup a VM to test on? |
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| 16:00.03 | aamerik | well, when i asked the fucking guy back when I installed lenny on his dev box, he didnt have an issue with it |
| 16:00.05 | aamerik | now he's crying |
| 16:00.06 | aamerik | go figure |
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| 16:00.19 | abrotman | qemu? vmware? have fun |
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| 16:01.10 | aamerik | so back to my question, any way to change apt.conf to grab php5 from etch repositories |
| 16:01.16 | aamerik | on lenny |
| 16:01.23 | abrotman | it probably wouldn't run very well, if at all |
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| 16:01.52 | aamerik | k |
| 16:02.06 | abrotman | a VM is really ideal here |
| 16:02.07 | themill | aamerik: upgrade both boxes to lenny and then fix the bug :) |
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| 16:06.20 | aamerik | cant upgrade prod to lenny as its running at slicehost |
| 16:06.26 | aamerik | not sure how they handle that |
| 16:06.51 | aamerik | anyways, where is the link for Etch downloads on debian.org |
| 16:07.00 | aamerik | i cannot find anything other than 5.0 download links |
| 16:07.02 | aamerik | even on mirrors |
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| 16:09.49 | Torikun | How can I have my drives displayed at sda instead of hdd? |
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| 16:11.33 | aidehua | What's the ultimate output of gprat? |
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| 16:12.05 | aidehua | These mentions of 'mb' in the output don't inspire me that the author is particularly accurate! |
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| 16:12.43 | klbate | Do I need any additional packages to make XEmacs use UTF-8? |
| 16:13.21 | klbate | I tried globbing through the available encodings with set-buffer-file-coding-system, no Unicode related encodings showed up? |
| 16:13.27 | klbate | . |
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| 16:15.01 | jelly | Torikun: it depends on the driver user (therefore, indirectly on the kernel version) |
| 16:15.32 | jelly | Torikun: if your disks work well, leave them as is. |
| 16:15.34 | Torikun | Every other distro uses sda naming now. You know how I can change it? is it possible? |
| 16:15.35 | Imdsm | accidental chown -R adam /, confirm that i'm fucked? |
| 16:16.01 | jelly | Torikun: it's not a naming issue. It's a driver issue. |
| 16:16.25 | jelly | Imdsm: you're fucked |
| 16:16.25 | aamerik | Imdsm: got another box running same version of debian? |
| 16:16.28 | Torikun | =( ty |
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| 16:16.42 | Imdsm | nope, just the one, was quickly sorting phpmyadmin on new setup and typing / instead of . |
| 16:16.47 | Imdsm | then realised but was too late |
| 16:16.50 | aamerik | right |
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| 16:17.05 | aamerik | i mean you're not necessarily fucked i bet you there are scripts available |
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| 16:17.10 | aamerik | that will mostly fix your problem |
| 16:17.16 | Imdsm | luckily only home dev server, would prefer not to have redo it if possible |
| 16:17.24 | aamerik | google |
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| 16:17.36 | Imdsm | general concensus from google is: you're fucked |
| 16:17.37 | jelly | Imdsm: restore the ownership and setuid bits from backups. |
| 16:17.54 | Imdsm | setup 2 days ago, no backs up done :( |
| 16:18.09 | jelly | be thankful you only lost 2 days, then |
| 16:18.10 | Imdsm | i'm the "hah who needs backups" person, or until just now i was |
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| 16:18.18 | jelly | !spank Imdsm |
| 16:18.18 | dpkg | bends Imdsm over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 16:18.46 | RiotingPacifist` | lmdsm will the group not be correct for 'most' files? |
| 16:18.49 | hoxu | Imdsm, clean reinstall takes the least time, happy reinstalling & backing up ! |
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| 16:19.02 | Torikun | my backup software is the fastest and easier than reinstalling |
| 16:19.20 | Torikun | http://rusher.webhop.org/wordpress/?page_id=473 |
| 16:19.21 | aamerik | dude if you did just chown adam: then you can just chown root: |
| 16:19.23 | aamerik | root: |
| 16:19.26 | Torikun | Try that |
| 16:19.37 | aamerik | because i think most files are owned as root outside of /home |
| 16:19.39 | jelly | aamerik: that'd be wrong. |
| 16:19.47 | hoxu | Torikun, forget what aamerik said |
| 16:19.58 | Imdsm | true but if there were files that were for example, owned by apache or whatnot |
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| 16:20.26 | Imdsm | good backup app recommendation? |
| 16:20.37 | aamerik | rsync |
| 16:20.53 | aamerik | apache will let you know if it has a problem |
| 16:20.59 | aamerik | most of that is read anyways |
| 16:21.02 | Torikun | Imdsm: http://rusher.webhop.org/wordpress/?page_id=473 |
| 16:21.07 | aamerik | you want to make sure /dev is usable |
| 16:21.11 | Torikun | There sorry for double posting ment to use dcc |
| 16:21.11 | jelly | Imdsm: depends a bit on your backup device and wishes. |
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| 16:21.36 | Imdsm | would prefer it to make snapshots into archives, think that'd be best, maybe not if hd goes down but at least protection against my brainfarts |
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| 16:21.42 | hoxu | aamerik, please don't give bad advice. You are trying to make someone lose much more time than reinstalling uses, and they most probably don't have a working system in the end |
| 16:21.47 | aamerik | you can ask someone here to genrate a list of files and permissions, command separated or whatever, and exclude /home |
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| 16:21.48 | Mohan | where is the default iptables rules file stored in debian ? |
| 16:21.50 | jelly | Imdsm: if you have a large disk somewhere, a rsync-wrapper app like rsnapshot or dirvish might be good enough |
| 16:21.52 | aamerik | and just feed that list into chown |
| 16:21.52 | RiotingPacifist` | my ath5k drivers are not working too well, aparently i need to either patch my kernel with wireless compat or upgrade to 2.6.28, which option will leave lenny in a more secure & maintainable state? |
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| 16:22.18 | buffoon_work | Imdsm, I'm using rsnapshot for backups on HD |
| 16:22.22 | aamerik | oh sorry hoxu i didnt realize i was giving "bad advice" |
| 16:22.24 | Mohan | i have iptables + fail2ban installed in the machine |
| 16:22.27 | aamerik | stfu |
| 16:22.42 | aamerik | reinstall is bad advice |
| 16:22.49 | Mohan | its a default installation, would like to know from where the rules are loaded after reboot. |
| 16:22.51 | jelly | aamerik: you can't, the ownerships depend on installed package set, order of installation, and configuration. And they're right, it is bad advice. |
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| 16:23.50 | jelly | reinstall is IMHO going to take less total time than trying to fix the situation for the first timem, while not being aware of all the details |
| 16:24.11 | aamerik | im lookign through my filesystem right now, /dev /usr/bin sbin /lib etc |
| 16:24.14 | aamerik | all files are owned as root: |
| 16:24.18 | hoxu | aamerik, if you don't like being corrected, this channel is probably not the right place for you |
| 16:24.56 | Mohan | does anyone here know where the default iptables rules are stored ? |
| 16:25.04 | Imdsm | alright, i think i'm gonna spend an hour reinstalling and using a backup this time, thanks for the help guys! |
| 16:25.11 | aamerik | :) |
| 16:25.15 | jelly | aamerik: look at /var, /etc/passwd, and package installation scripts that run adduser/addgroup |
| 16:25.32 | stew | aamerik: what about /var ? not everything thing there would be owned by root |
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| 16:25.50 | jelly | Imdsm: now you know! :-> |
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| 16:26.21 | Imdsm | hehehe yeah :> |
| 16:26.38 | aamerik | stew that is why i suggested he take a permission list from a working system, and feed that list into chown |
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| 16:26.43 | aamerik | and the rest he can fix by hand |
| 16:26.53 | stew | aamerik: how does he know what the rest is? |
| 16:26.55 | aamerik | it all depends how import the data is, and how much of it is on the box |
| 16:27.20 | Imdsm | luckily i didn't lose any data |
| 16:27.26 | Imdsm | just dont want an unstable box |
| 16:27.38 | jelly | aamerik: and you were told how a list from a reference system might be wrong |
| 16:28.38 | fede__ | hola |
| 16:28.45 | aamerik | Imdsm are you using sudo? |
| 16:28.51 | jelly | would only do that if there was a backup of the very same system to base the chown from |
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| 16:29.19 | aamerik | Imdsm, also, i suggest something like tripwire, something that will record binary/permission changes daily |
| 16:29.28 | aamerik | that way you can recover |
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| 16:29.35 | stew | i'd recommend a backup, which is even better |
| 16:29.40 | stew | which it seems he's going to do |
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| 16:45.13 | klync | i dist-upgraded and now pidgin (formerly gaim) can't connect to icq - the server says the software is outdated. :( is there a known fix / workaround? a better multi-protocol client? |
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| 16:45.52 | klync | part of me thinks the dist-upgrade was coincidental, as my ubuntu desktop also gets that error now |
| 16:46.18 | jester45 | klync, was pidgin even upgraded? |
| 16:46.38 | klync | jester45: gaim was removed, pidgin was installed... it's definitely a newer version |
| 16:47.07 | Mohan | klync: where is iptables rules are stored in default debian installation ? |
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| 16:47.35 | klync | Mohan: why would you ask me? i use a shorewall firewall and my dsl modem has one built in at home |
| 16:47.45 | jester45 | check pidgin's bugzilla or debians and see if its a known and possibly fixed problem |
| 16:47.48 | klync | Mohan: i haven't used iptables since it was ipchains |
| 16:47.51 | maligor | I don't think default debian installs any rules |
| 16:47.56 | klync | :P |
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| 16:48.29 | Mohan | its debian lenny, default installation with fail2ban |
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| 16:48.47 | valdyn | Mohan: you have no default rules |
| 16:48.48 | Mohan | was wondering where the rules are stored |
| 16:49.00 | valdyn | Mohan: fail2ban also has no default rules or nothing that persists accross reboots |
| 16:49.16 | Mohan | but there is like 5 -6 chains loaded by default |
| 16:49.25 | Mohan | and it persists across reboots. |
| 16:49.27 | stew | !dbugs 518988 |
| 16:49.30 | dpkg | DONE:#518988:N[pidgin] pidgin: Connection to ICQ fails with "client version too old" (patch); Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:09:11 UTC [519011 519053] |
| 16:49.40 | valdyn | Mohan: chains? theres no chains |
| 16:49.47 | valdyn | Mohan: whats is there "loaded" |
| 16:49.48 | anoHito | has anyone used phpsysinfo ? how can i use domain name instead of IP to access to the phpsysinfo page ? |
| 16:50.05 | anoHito | it auto installed in /var/www/html/phpsysinfo |
| 16:50.12 | stew | klync: see that bug, it appears to be recently fixed |
| 16:50.14 | klync | jester45: indeed, it's fixed in the latest pidgin release... i guess i'll check bugs.debian to see what's up with the pkg - i'd rather use apt than make |
| 16:50.19 | valdyn | !dns |
| 16:50.26 | anoHito | but i would need it to be in /home/me/domain/public_html/ |
| 16:50.28 | valdyn | anoHito: read about what dns is, wikipedia knows |
| 16:50.41 | anoHito | valdyn, it is dns related ? |
| 16:50.42 | klync | stew: w00t! |
| 16:50.53 | jester45 | anoHito, you can just mv the directory i think or install it yourself at your webroot.... its really easy to install just extract the tarball and your done |
| 16:51.00 | aamerik | dude! does anyone know how to download Etch still? all links on debian.org point at Lenny |
| 16:51.03 | valdyn | anoHito: dns is how you access hosts by name. |
| 16:51.10 | stew | klync: the fix was just uploaded to stable last night, so it just might not be on your mirror yet |
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| 16:51.31 | anoHito | jester45, i used apt-get,it did not ask me anything and its finished installation :( |
| 16:51.31 | jester45 | aamerik, try looking for oldstable |
| 16:51.35 | Mohan | valdyn: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-lenny-ispconfig3 |
| 16:51.36 | klync | stew: i can wait.... i'm feeling all warm and fuzzy that the team was so quick to get this up! :D |
| 16:51.52 | Mohan | thats the document i followed exactly nothing more/less |
| 16:51.54 | aamerik | thanks |
| 16:52.01 | stew | klync: oh it looks like maybe a fix is already in volatile |
| 16:52.04 | jester45 | anoHito, ive allways manually installed because its just a few php scripts it doesnt really need a package |
| 16:52.08 | Mohan | i see persistent iptables rules there in that machine |
| 16:52.12 | valdyn | Mohan: what am I supposed to do with this? |
| 16:52.31 | klync | stew: none of my friends use icq anymore, anyway :P .... thx for the info, tho |
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| 16:52.41 | Mohan | you can have a look at it, there is persistent rules configured |
| 16:52.46 | Mohan | with default install of fail2ban |
| 16:53.00 | valdyn | Mohan: im not going to read 5 huge pages of docs for your pleasure |
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| 16:53.12 | valdyn | Mohan: even if half of that is just screenshots |
| 16:53.23 | anoHito | jester45, i moved it to another accessable folder, i try to access to it via internet,says 500 error ;( |
| 16:53.24 | Mohan | yup there is nuthing much to read there. |
| 16:53.50 | valdyn | Mohan: im sure you can people who will do this for you, but not for free |
| 16:53.54 | valdyn | Mohan: im sure you can *find* people who will do this for you, but not for free |
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| 16:55.04 | Mohan | valdyn: all i want to know is where is the location of the iptables rules file. |
| 16:55.19 | Mohan | i can configure the rest myself :) |
| 16:55.21 | valdyn | Mohan: I already told you that it does not exist. |
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| 16:55.54 | Mohan | ok, thanks. |
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| 17:02.52 | aamerik | hm |
| 17:03.05 | aamerik | im unable to find any download links based on "oldstable" |
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| 17:03.19 | aamerik | anyone else know how to download Etch iso? |
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| 17:04.46 | epsilon | google for debian-40r6-i386-netinst.iso |
| 17:05.01 | aamerik | thanks |
| 17:05.06 | aamerik | r7 is out ill try that |
| 17:05.07 | valdyn | r7 probably |
| 17:05.24 | epsilon | and if you cant find, ask me... I have amd64 and i386 netinst ISO on my drive |
| 17:05.46 | adb | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/archive/4.0_r7/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 17:05.51 | Lns | Hey guys, I've just upgraded my Etch server to Lenny last week, and this morning I notice that some of my daemons (saslauth/postfix, b2evolution) can't connect to my mysql server, although there are mysql procs running. Any clues? For example, I have in my blog logs: b2evolution error: MySQL error! / Error establishing a database connection! |
| 17:06.37 | datenritter | i have a problem with a usb-printer. the printer works fine (tested on a different box), but when i send jobs to it (e.g. the cups testpage) with the box it is connected to at the moment, it just flashes it's activity-LED, then nothing happens. CUPS sends the data and thinks, the job has been processed just fine. i wonder if this could be a usb-problem or something wrong with the way, the foomatic-filters process the data...? |
| 17:06.42 | aamerik | crap only silly torrent sites pop up with that search for etch iso |
| 17:06.58 | aamerik | im a bit shocked debian.org isnt hosting it |
| 17:07.03 | datenritter | Lns: check the network settings in my.cnf |
| 17:07.11 | aamerik | abd thanks |
| 17:07.12 | azeem | aamerik: it's hosting it, but it's well hidden |
| 17:07.15 | adb | np |
| 17:07.21 | Lns | datenritter: rgr |
| 17:08.39 | jester45 | aamerik, i have the netinstall |
| 17:08.45 | valdyn | datenritter: whats in the cups log? |
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| 17:09.45 | stew | aamerik: debian.org is hosting it |
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| 17:12.08 | datenritter | valdyn: error_log: http://pastebin.com/m59f65e0f |
| 17:12.18 | datenritter | (debug-mode) |
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| 17:13.50 | jester45 | aamerik, http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#old |
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| 17:14.28 | jester45 | or... more directly http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/4.0_r7/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 17:15.09 | maja_ | is there a way to mount a filesystem to a directory *without* replacing its contents? |
| 17:15.25 | jester45 | yes |
| 17:15.38 | maja_ | jester45, with fstab perhaps? |
| 17:15.38 | anoHito | jester45, it doesnt work |
| 17:15.39 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 17:15.39 | dpkg | somebody said cups setup was "aptitude install cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsomatic-ppd foomatic-db". Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or you can try printconf |
| 17:15.58 | valdyn | datenritter: is ghostscript installed at all? |
| 17:15.59 | themill | maja_: something like unionfs? |
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| 17:16.09 | maja_ | themill, fat32 |
| 17:16.16 | anoHito | jester45, i installed it from tallbar, yeah very simple, but on web ,it does not show ram cpu info and blah ,but many errors |
| 17:16.20 | datenritter | valdyn: yes |
| 17:16.34 | anoHito | jester45, common_functions.php 158 find_program(sensors) program not found on the machine |
| 17:16.34 | anoHito | common_functions.php 372 file_exists(/proc/loadavg) the file does not exist on your machine |
| 17:16.37 | jester45 | anoHito, it works for me, ill download one if you want |
| 17:17.07 | anoHito | jester45, yeah please |
| 17:17.30 | maja_ | themill jester45: how (with fstab)? |
| 17:17.34 | xoz | maja_: you mean merge the contents of dir with mounted fs? |
| 17:17.39 | themill | !unionfs |
| 17:17.40 | dpkg | unionfs is, like, union filesystem is mainly used in Live-CD systems or diskless systems, where the read-only root directory is combined (joined) with tmpfs filesystem (which resides in memory and is writable). http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html & http://www.unionfs.org/unionfs/ . Its weird. |
| 17:17.41 | maja_ | xoz, yes |
| 17:17.42 | datenritter | valdyn: uhh, found something. foomatic-filters-ppds is mising |
| 17:17.43 | valdyn | datenritter: how do you know you are using the proper ppd / printer driver? |
| 17:18.13 | xoz | maja_: what is the usage of this? |
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| 17:18.28 | maja_ | xoz, to have a different volume as my home dir |
| 17:18.32 | datenritter | valdyn: it worked before, also you can check linuxprinting.org. it recommends the 2060 driver for the 2030. or at least it did, until the page was updated recently. but the 2060 driver is still supposed to eork |
| 17:18.33 | datenritter | work |
| 17:18.37 | maja_ | *partition |
| 17:19.10 | xoz | maja_: you can edit your fstab and reboot |
| 17:19.13 | Lns | datenritter: everything looks OK to me in my.cnf - and I can connect using 'mysql' from the shell. It seems my other daemons aren't reaching it though. |
| 17:19.17 | maja_ | xoz, question is: how? |
| 17:19.19 | xoz | maja_: you don't want to reboot |
| 17:19.44 | xoz | maja_: edit /etc/fstab... change home dir to /dev/sda3 for example. |
| 17:19.51 | maja_ | xoz, if I do mounpoint: /home/maja, it replaces it, so my settings disapear |
| 17:20.01 | datenritter | (i will try out the hl1240 ppd if installing above mentioned package and depends does not help.) |
| 17:20.11 | maja_ | xoz, oooh |
| 17:20.19 | Lns | oh here's something.. /me digs deeper |
| 17:20.21 | xoz | maja_: copy all settings from old home to new home |
| 17:20.28 | maja_ | xoz, understood. thx. |
| 17:20.35 | xoz | maja_: ok. |
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| 17:21.27 | datenritter | Lns: i don't know if the mysql-command uses a network-connection, but it might. i think, the mysql people are replacing unix-sockets with tcp-sockets. that of course changes the way, mysql is set up. nowadays it listens on 127.0.0.1 per default, which might be a problem for your setup depending on how the clients connect. |
| 17:21.54 | datenritter | i.e. if they don't use "localhost:3360" but "hostname:3360" they might use the external IP instead of 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:21.57 | xoz | mysql in debian by default does not listen to tcp |
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| 17:22.04 | datenritter | ah, see |
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| 17:22.20 | xoz | for security |
| 17:22.31 | Lns | datenritter: well I tried commenting out "bind-address" so it would listen on all interfaces AFAIK..still no love |
| 17:22.43 | Lns | xoz: ^^ :) |
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| 17:22.57 | Lns | ty btw |
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| 17:23.11 | jester45 | aamerik, did you get the link working? |
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| 17:23.51 | datenritter | valdyn: it seems to work now. at least the "paper"-warning-LED is flashing. :-D |
| 17:24.05 | datenritter | Lns: set bind-address to 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:24.19 | Lns | datenritter: rgr |
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| 17:25.03 | valdyn | netstat -plunt and telnet host <mysqlport> are your freinds |
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| 17:25.40 | abrotman | what .. no nc ? |
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| 17:25.50 | Lns | datenritter: :( nope |
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| 17:26.26 | HellMind | I want to autologin and autostart xorg with fluxbox (no gdm), how can I do that? |
| 17:26.27 | funyun | does anyone know of an equivalent of VisualHub (Mac app) for Linux? |
| 17:26.35 | Lns | also getting (from postfix): warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied (and) warning: Fibonacci[192.168.3.10]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: generic failure |
| 17:26.38 | valdyn | HellMind: with gdm |
| 17:26.38 | stew | funyun: what does visualhub do? |
| 17:26.54 | valdyn | HellMind: i know very well you didnt want to hear that, but why reinvent the wheel? |
| 17:27.02 | funyun | stew: i need to convert a PAL dvd image to NTSC |
| 17:27.03 | Lns | (postfix uses mysql) |
| 17:27.22 | HellMind | valdyn: I dont have system resource to waste |
| 17:27.26 | xoz | HellMind: enable nologin |
| 17:27.47 | HellMind | xoz : from where? |
| 17:27.56 | valdyn | HellMind: im sure your system can take gdm, thats not big |
| 17:28.05 | datenritter | Lns: did you just update or also change anything like the hostname, ip...? |
| 17:28.05 | xoz | HellMind: i meant enable autologin from gdm:) |
| 17:28.05 | HellMind | valdyn: I dont need it! |
| 17:28.13 | Lns | datenritter: nope, just upgraded |
| 17:28.22 | HellMind | I will not use gdm because is not need it! |
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| 17:28.28 | datenritter | also, did you read any warnings about a new way of encrypting password or something? |
| 17:29.08 | Lns | datenritter: not that i noticed at all. not sure if it matters but i can still get in with my root acct on the shell using my orig. password. |
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| 17:29.18 | xoz | HellMind: you can just do startx then |
| 17:29.27 | Lns | one strage log entry i see, though is "WARNING: mysql.user contains 1 root accounts without password!" |
| 17:29.35 | valdyn | HellMind: so rewrite the part of its functionality that you need ;) |
| 17:29.38 | HellMind | xoz_ : and the auto login? |
| 17:29.51 | Lns | datenritter: but i do have a pw for my (known) root mysql acct |
| 17:30.05 | xoz | HellMind: unix security discourages that |
| 17:30.23 | Lns | I also see "This installation of MySQL is already upgraded to 5.0.51a, use --force if you still need to run mysql_upgrade" in daemon.log |
| 17:30.23 | HellMind | xoz: where should I put the startx cmd? |
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| 17:32.00 | xoz | HellMind: http://www.enricozini.org/2008/tips/lightweight-autologin.html |
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| 17:32.26 | HellMind | you masterized google skill |
| 17:32.31 | xoz | HellMind: you have to edit the inittab |
| 17:32.37 | HellMind | k |
| 17:33.19 | xoz | HellMind: this is an old technique |
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| 17:38.00 | xoz | HellMind: better use ordinary user for the script and use startx instead of root |
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| 17:39.07 | HellMind | xoz_: that I was about to ask :D |
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| 17:39.17 | frog_ | hi, sorry for beein stupid, but... i try to backup some data(2 partitions). i tried to do it with dd, but after 4 gb it stopped(dd: writing to `/media/My Passport/sda2': File too large). could someone tell me what is better: dd, rsync, cp ? thanks |
| 17:39.18 | HellMind | but I got no right in my normal user to startx |
| 17:39.37 | datenritter | Lns: sorry, i'm lost here. maybe you should increase the debug level and see the logs |
| 17:39.50 | xoz | HellMind: add yourself to the group for startx |
| 17:40.05 | Lns | frog_: dd is great. check this out: http://www.linuxweblog.com/dd-image |
| 17:40.11 | stew | HellMind: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 17:40.16 | Lns | also google for "dd_rescue" |
| 17:40.23 | Lns | datenritter: ok i'll do that |
| 17:40.26 | stew | HellMind: but why not just use gdm and set it to autologin? |
| 17:40.29 | jerojasro | I'm trying to install debian on a box that already had its partitions encrypted. (the scheme is as follows: a large physical partition, encrypted with dm-crypt. on to of it I created a physical volume and then several logical volumes (one for each partition, /, /home, etc)) |
| 17:40.35 | frog_ | Lns: thank you |
| 17:40.48 | HellMind | stew because im BLUE |
| 17:40.56 | stew | HellMind: what does that mean? |
| 17:40.56 | funyun | stew: know of anything that can handle that task? |
| 17:41.31 | jerojasro | I can already see the partitions on the installation menu, but it seems I can't tell the installer not to format any of them; either I use them (and it looks like I'll have to format them) or I don't use them |
| 17:41.36 | stew | funyun: i don't know |
| 17:41.36 | HellMind | stew i don't need gnome, will not use gnome |
| 17:41.46 | funyun | does anyone know of an equivalent of VisualHub (Mac app) for Linux? |
| 17:41.53 | xoz | HellMind: although xdm is really small |
| 17:41.55 | jerojasro | how can I tell the debian installer to use those partitions and not to format them? |
| 17:42.15 | xoz | use xdm all the time |
| 17:42.21 | stew | xdm doens't have autologin anymore, though |
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| 17:43.12 | stew | at least not in the debian package... |
| 17:43.13 | HellMind | xoz_ : how small ? I got a k6 400mhz I cant waste resources |
| 17:43.17 | gravity | funyun: Maybe if you told us what the program does? |
| 17:43.32 | stew | gravity: he wants to reencode a pal dvd as ntsc |
| 17:43.34 | axz | Hi there i'm running directadmin on my server and somehow after upgrade debian installed 2th mysql services running, how to remove the once Lenny installed/upgraded |
| 17:43.35 | HellMind | and why its better? |
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| 17:43.41 | valdyn | HellMind: gdm does not depend on gnome |
| 17:43.46 | funyun | gravity: i need to convert a PAL dvd image to NTSC |
| 17:43.53 | gravity | Ah, that I don't know |
| 17:43.54 | xoz | HellMind: try install it. it is about 194k |
| 17:43.59 | valdyn | HellMind: if you intend to not use a gtk application, then not using gdm might make sense |
| 17:44.06 | xoz | HellMind: the deps are small also |
| 17:44.08 | xingu | last time I checked, all display managers allocated pageable memory |
| 17:44.11 | klikklak | anyone with experience installing sdlmame from source? .. I can't get joystick configuration to stick. it gets removed everytime I start it |
| 17:44.18 | xoz | HellMind: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2003/07/msg00260.html |
| 17:44.26 | xoz | HellMind: another simpler way to autologin |
| 17:45.22 | jerojasro | to put it more simpkly, I have several existing LVM partitions, and the debian installer doesn't recognize the filesystems in them |
| 17:45.29 | xoz | HellMind: you can just do sudo username /usr/X11R6/bin/startx |
| 17:45.42 | jerojasro | what can I do? mostly to be able to keep some of those partitions unchanges |
| 17:45.43 | xoz | HellMind: at the end of boot sequence. |
| 17:45.46 | jerojasro | *unchanged |
| 17:45.53 | HellMind | ok |
| 17:46.17 | xoz | HellMind: or just insert this in one of the /etc/init.d/ scripts |
| 17:46.19 | Imdsm | there we go, server back up |
| 17:46.32 | Imdsm | note to self: stop destroying your server |
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| 17:48.05 | RiotingPacifist` | how do i install wireless-compat for lenny or is it already in the defualt amd64 kernel? |
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| 17:48.17 | Hodapp_ | What would you guys recommend more: Setting up Debian Sarge, or making etch or lenny work with kernel 2.4? I have a cluster I am setting up with OpenSSI and the myrinet boards in the nodes have proprietary drivers that need kernel 2.4 |
| 17:48.47 | jelly | Hodapp_: afaik, lenny won't work; etch mostly will |
| 17:49.17 | axz | can someone please tell me what doe this mean http://pastebin.com/m5f99fb9f |
| 17:49.38 | stew | axz: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 17:49.56 | axz | stew, nothing |
| 17:50.03 | axz | ah it works now |
| 17:50.06 | stew | dpkg: tell axz about kept back |
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| 17:50.28 | Hodapp_ | jelly: So why that over sarge, which still have 2.4 packages and such? |
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| 17:51.42 | Hodapp_ | Hmm... actually OpenSSI is probably going to insist on using its own kernel patches |
| 17:51.47 | Hodapp_ | pees on Myricom |
| 17:51.59 | jelly | Hodapp_: etch is still security supported for about a year; if your cluster is isolated from the rest of your network, you have less to worry. |
| 17:52.29 | Hodapp_ | jelly: Only the head node is going to have internet access, most likely |
| 17:52.34 | axz | stew, could those packages been related to follow error http://pastebin.com/m22d21291 |
| 17:53.34 | Lns | datenritter: Hey I think I got part of it fixed at least, I read that you have to do an 'adduser postfix sasl' for some reason - not sure why this is necessary after an upgrade from etch to lenny... but now i can send e-mail. checking my blog login now. |
| 17:54.11 | stew | axz: no, those errors appear to be that you installed some possibly incompatible libs into /usr/local by hand. stuff in /usr/local would have nothing to do with your package management |
| 17:54.30 | xoz | Lns: always read the readme.debian for last minute instructions ... including changelogs in /usr/share/docs |
| 17:54.40 | stew | axz: and note that the thing you are seeing with a few packages getting kept back are normal, expected, and not an error |
| 17:55.08 | xingu | Hodapp_: you can't really blame myricom, those G1 cards are pretty damn old... :) |
| 17:55.10 | axz | stew, you i fixed the packages errors how to fix the mysql one... becausei think i have double mysql running somehow |
| 17:55.12 | prahal | hum anyone having success with chapter titles and hyperref (latex) and utf8 ? I validate the encoding against recode and have hyperset set unicode=true . Still no joy . It fails |
| 17:55.25 | stew | axz: why did you install libz into /usr/local ? |
| 17:55.35 | axz | stew, no |
| 17:55.45 | axz | stew, not that i;m aware of |
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| 17:55.57 | Lns | xoz: :) thank you.. i guess i should have prepared more. I usually never have problems w/debian in even major upgrades |
| 17:56.00 | Hodapp_ | xingu: I can blame them for having totally proprietary drivers. |
| 17:56.09 | stew | axz: i'm not asking if. someone installed libz into /usr/local ; i'm asking WHY that was done, not IF |
| 17:56.14 | axz | stew, the mysql is installed by DirectAdmin managment |
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| 17:56.41 | HellMind | I got no starx group :( |
| 17:56.42 | cousteau | how can I make a .deb package that checks for some dependencies and then copies some files to certain directories? |
| 17:56.43 | frog_ | dd_rescue: (warning): /media/My Passport/sda1 (6305856.0k): File too large |
| 17:56.43 | frog_ | dd_rescue: (warning): assumption rd(65536) == wr(0) failed! |
| 17:56.44 | stew | axz: what is DirectAdmin managment? |
| 17:57.08 | axz | stew, i mean Web contol panel |
| 17:57.15 | frog_ | you think it would be ok, when i just copy data(to makee backup)? |
| 17:57.33 | axz | stew, directadmin.com |
| 17:58.06 | Lns | xoz: datenritter: Well it all works now :) Had to add the postfix user to group sasl. Have no clue why that's required for b2evolution, it uses a different database than my mail db... *shrugs* :) Thanks for the help!! |
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| 17:58.29 | stew | axz: i guess try http://directadmin.com/support then |
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| 17:59.01 | axz | stew, i think i somehow installed new version of mysql how to remove it? |
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| 17:59.13 | themill | prahal: I've had problems with PDF structure not supporting various characters, but didn't investigate as I didn't care enough. #latex might have more ideas. See if you can construct a truly minimal test case first though. (literally just a \section{} command if you can) |
| 17:59.28 | xingu | Hodapp_: http://www.myri.com/myrinet/PCI64/programming.html <-- write yer own ;) |
| 17:59.29 | stew | axz: i don't know anything about removing software installed with directadmin |
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| 18:00.37 | axz | stew, i'm not telling its directadmin related i just want to remove mysql, because i think upgrading lenny its installed |
| 18:00.37 | xoz | HellMind: there is no startx group. just use sudo username startx to start x |
| 18:01.13 | HellMind | that username got no permission for that |
| 18:01.17 | jester45 | what about video group |
| 18:01.28 | xoz | axz: ldd /usr/bin/mysql depends on /usr/local? |
| 18:01.41 | stew | axz: "aptitude remove mysql-server-5.0" would be the way to remove it if you installed using the debian package management |
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| 18:01.46 | HellMind | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 18:01.55 | stew | HellMind: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 18:01.57 | Hodapp_ | xingu: That doesn't provide for the version of LANai chipset I have. |
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| 18:02.12 | HellMind | stew i did it, it set to all console users :( |
| 18:02.24 | Hodapp_ | xingu: Trust me, if open drivers could have been written for these boards, someone here at university would have done it by now... |
| 18:02.24 | stew | HellMind: what command gave you that error? |
| 18:02.31 | prahal | themill, yup just retried with a small test (only a part title) and can reproduce the issue . accentuated characters are at fault |
| 18:02.48 | HellMind | startx |
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| 18:03.01 | stew | HellMind: did you type startx from a console? or where? |
| 18:03.01 | axz | xoz, i cant remove restart or stop it all i get is this error http://pastebin.com/m2f9e5b34 |
| 18:03.05 | xingu | Hodapp_: they're not lanai7 ? |
| 18:03.07 | Imdsm | i've got debian lenny setup now, its got apache/php from the gui install, but no mysql, will apt-get install php5-mysql recompile mysql into php or do i have to manually uninstall it and reinstall php with the extra extensions? |
| 18:03.09 | Hodapp_ | xingu: No. |
| 18:03.14 | HellMind | stew from a ssh |
| 18:03.20 | xingu | Hodapp_: what are they? |
| 18:03.24 | stew | HellMind: yeah, that's not a console |
| 18:03.26 | themill | prahal: pastebin? |
| 18:03.29 | stew | HellMind: you'd have to allow all users |
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| 18:03.45 | HellMind | : stew i ll try |
| 18:03.46 | Hodapp_ | xingu: LANai4 at the moment. Fast enough that they aren't worth trashing. |
| 18:03.56 | stew | axz: i was saying it was directadmin related becuase you said "< axz> stew, the mysql is installed by DirectAdmin managmen" |
| 18:03.59 | axz | but i have tryed aptitude remove mysql-server-5.0 lets see what happeneds |
| 18:04.05 | xoz | axz: remove by hand those mysql and install lenny's version |
| 18:04.06 | themill | dpkg: tell Imdsm about lamp |
| 18:04.21 | xingu | Hodapp_: holy crap that _is_ old. :) |
| 18:05.00 | Hodapp_ | xingu: Probably faster than gigabit in actual usage though... |
| 18:05.08 | xingu | Hodapp_: http://www.myri.com/vlsi/LANai4.pdf |
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| 18:05.34 | xand | ?squeeze |
| 18:05.43 | xand | !squeeze |
| 18:05.43 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html |
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| 18:06.26 | Hodapp_ | xingu: interesting... |
| 18:06.46 | Imdsm | themill: thanks mate |
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| 18:06.51 | themill | np |
| 18:06.59 | Schuenemann | how do I set 3d driver for my video card. It's a intel X3100. glxinfo | grep redirect outputs this: direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) |
| 18:07.20 | Schuenemann | | grep direct* |
| 18:07.30 | xingu | Hodapp_: there's enough there I think, of course there's going to be errors/ omissions but it's more complete than the average sheet I've seen over the years |
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| 18:07.39 | xingu | Hodapp_: I smell a postgrad project ;) |
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| 18:09.09 | mythomaniac | i'm looking for a gui based firewall that can handle eth0, ppp and wifi - i'm using squeeze, and would prefer something like firestarter (it's broke in squeeze) and something that gtk built, no qt; though it should be noted that if there is an ncurses based one i'm ok with that; any suggestions? |
| 18:09.52 | xoz | mythomaniac: apt-cache search firewall? |
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| 18:10.18 | xoz | mythomaniac: or apt-cache search firewall gtk? |
| 18:10.18 | mythomaniac | xoz, yeah i have done that, the first one |
| 18:10.39 | mythomaniac | xoz, firestarter for the second ;( |
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| 18:11.36 | Schuenemann | direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) |
| 18:11.55 | xoz | mythomaniac: kde has guarddog and guidedog |
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| 18:12.43 | xoz | goes to bed... |
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| 18:13.05 | mythomaniac | xoz, yeah, not really interested in those, however, if i can get one were i can make on the fly rules though an ncurser interface i would be happy |
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| 18:13.48 | aryah | mythomaniac, i think ubuntu guys made some gtk based one , since firestarer is an abandoned project. easyfirewall, simplefirewall something like that, ill google it. But Im beggining to like the more advanced interface guarddog offers, even though im in gnome.. |
| 18:14.06 | CentHOGG | hi anybody here use LXDE |
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| 18:14.46 | mythomaniac | aryah, interesting |
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| 18:15.34 | mythomaniac | aryah, maybe i'll test out guarddog then, btw i'm using awesome wm ;) |
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| 18:16.13 | prahal | themill, http://pastebin.com/f1d93d2fa |
| 18:16.15 | hark | Schuenemann: what's the output with it set as verbose? |
| 18:16.24 | xand | dare I upgrade to squeeze :O |
| 18:16.30 | aryah | mythomaniac, hm! Ive setup xmonad :) though Im in a flashy compiz fusion/emerald/screenlets/cairodock etc nonsense |
| 18:16.35 | mythomaniac | xand, i would |
| 18:17.02 | hark | xand: ooh |
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| 18:17.04 | prahal | I am discussing about it on latex and well they won't discuss until I installed via their own installer (and if it does not work with texlive tried "context" first |
| 18:17.23 | xand | hark: ooh? |
| 18:17.48 | mythomaniac | aryah, wow very cool |
| 18:17.56 | themill | prahal: wtf? they're normally quite helpful on #latex. And you'd be using texlive already... |
| 18:19.07 | Schuenemann | hark, http://pastebin.ca/1362457 |
| 18:19.15 | Schuenemann | doesn't change anything... |
| 18:19.16 | HellMind | xoz : where I should put sudo user starx? |
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| 18:20.08 | themill | prahal: your utf-8 encoded file isn't actually utf-8 encoded.... looks like latin-1. |
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| 18:21.17 | prahal | themill, does it works if it is converted back to utf8 (could be pastebinit/pastebin server that did the conversion or ? well I ll give a second shot at iconv recode) |
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| 18:21.51 | hark | Schuenemann: no, output of -> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo |
| 18:21.57 | HellMind | xoz : mean su usr /usr/X11R6/bin/startx, where is the best way to put that |
| 18:22.09 | themill | I don't know who ate it, but when I substitute back the appropriate characters in utf-8, it at least compiles. The PDF structure entries are crap and full of rubbish, but it at least then compiles.... |
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| 18:22.37 | mlw | anyone ever water cured plants |
| 18:23.08 | stew | mlw: is this at all debian related? |
| 18:23.10 | aryah | mythomaniac, its uncomplicated firewall, ufw, and its GUI interface is GUFW, so maybe try that. Though for an awesome desktop, perhaps something keybord based, say in console, is more in theme :) depends on taste I guess. |
| 18:23.28 | xoz | HellMind: rc.local |
| 18:23.35 | HellMind | ty |
| 18:23.47 | stew | X11R6 ? |
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| 18:23.55 | amikrop | Hello. I have a script (it is a server) that I always want it to run (and if possible, even automatically start again if it crashes). What can I do to make it a daemon? I should create a related file and place it to /etc/init.d? Any help would be appreciated much. |
| 18:24.23 | Schuenemann | hark, the same: http://pastebin.ca/1362463 |
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| 18:25.09 | themill | prahal: and if I follow the instructions in thetexfile.aux and insert lines such as \PrerenderUnicode{é} into the header, then the PDF structure is no longer gibberish but is just perfect :) |
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| 18:25.20 | xoz | amikrop: apt-cache show launch-tool |
| 18:25.54 | xoz | amikrop: apt-cache show launchtool |
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| 18:26.34 | amikrop | xoz: Thank you. |
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| 18:27.37 | Schuenemann | hark, weird, huh? It still tells me to set it to verbose |
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| 18:28.02 | xoz | thinks openbsd launcher is really cool |
| 18:28.11 | themill | prahal: btw your minimal example could have been much more minimal... http://pastebin.com/m9cc9d49 Remember to run pdflatex twice so that aux file is updated and then that update is reflected in the rendered pdf the second time. |
| 18:28.25 | hark | Schuenemann: yeah, which debian version and which driver are you using? |
| 18:28.46 | Schuenemann | hark, lenny. Driver intel |
| 18:28.53 | Schuenemann | I tried i810 too |
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| 18:29.35 | xoz | prahal: install latexmk. it is like a makefile and determines automatically how many times to perform pdflatex and bibtex compilation |
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| 18:29.44 | hark | Schuenemann: do you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed? |
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| 18:29.52 | prahal | themill, yes prerenderunicode fixes it ... I bet I will have to add such entry for every character not in latin1 subset ... weird but efficient (and title don't have that many special characters in french) |
| 18:29.52 | xoz | prahal: for successful pdf |
| 18:30.03 | icebrain | if I set cron to run X at 5pm, and the PC is off at that time, will it be run when I turn it on? |
| 18:30.15 | xoz | icebrain: install anacron |
| 18:30.28 | Schuenemann | hark, no |
| 18:30.31 | icebrain | xoz: ok, thanks |
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| 18:30.52 | hark | Schuenemann: install the xorg package and try again |
| 18:31.13 | Schuenemann | hark, xorg package? you mean this one you just told me? |
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| 18:31.14 | themill | prahal: yes... can't say I've come across that one before either |
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| 18:31.49 | prahal | thanks themill xoz |
| 18:32.06 | themill | no worries |
| 18:32.07 | hark | Schuenemann: aptitude install xorg, it should pull it in |
| 18:32.41 | Schuenemann | hark, it did not |
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| 18:32.56 | Schuenemann | only these xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xorg xorg-docs |
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| 18:33.45 | xoz | prahal: if you can get the latest texlive, it supports syntex where it syncs pdf text location with the latex source. |
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| 18:34.00 | xoz | prahal: s/syntex/synctex |
| 18:34.33 | Schuenemann | hark, do I install anyway? |
| 18:34.39 | xoz | prahal: it becomes easy to locate the text in the source by alt-click of the text in the pdf |
| 18:34.42 | Schuenemann | and that other one alone |
| 18:34.48 | hark | Schuenemann: yes |
| 18:35.15 | prahal | xoz, I am in the process of installing it . Though ctan is slow on their side . Will take quite a few hours |
| 18:35.25 | hark | Schuenemann: install libgl1-mesa-dri |
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| 18:35.47 | aryah | hm, do ppl here use vimperator firefox(iceweasel) plugin? every now and then it kinda goes wild, dont know exactly how to explain it, system is unresponsive and the address in the status bar flashes on and off rapidly, then calms down by itself. Not sure if its the plugin or something else in the system, but i suspect its due to firefox |
| 18:35.58 | xoz | prahal: latexmk + synctex are really powerful additions |
| 18:36.06 | Schuenemann | instaling |
| 18:36.16 | aryah | and the mouse cursor blinks as well |
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| 18:36.37 | xoz | prahal: be sure to use an editor that supports synctex. texshop in mac supports it... im not sure in linux though. |
| 18:36.45 | themill | prahal, xoz: dvi viewers have supported reverse search for a while (click on pdf, go back to location in latex source). kdvi + kile work very nicely with this. |
| 18:36.52 | Schuenemann | hark, done |
| 18:37.10 | prahal | xoz, yup a lot have happens since I last attempted to port those graph algorithm notes ... tikz and tkz-berge help a lot |
| 18:37.15 | xoz | themill: cool. only that pdflatex is now the norm. |
| 18:37.27 | hark | Schuenemann: check glxinfo now |
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| 18:37.44 | themill | xoz: pdflatex for the final product sure, but not necessary while working on something. |
| 18:37.59 | Schuenemann | hark, says yes, but has many errors. Hold on |
| 18:38.31 | Schuenemann | hark, http://pastebin.ca/1362476 |
| 18:38.34 | xoz | themill: and synctex is more accurate... including figures and formulas. dvi is no longer necessary because it is better to use pdf images directly. |
| 18:39.45 | xoz | hates to use the dvi-to-ps-to-pdf workflow. |
| 18:39.54 | Schuenemann | and glxgears is freezing... ugh |
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| 18:40.08 | themill | xoz: ish... also tends to be slower when you're dealing with large files. pdflatex is also full of fail when you're trying to use things like pstricks. But yeah, pdf > dvi. |
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| 18:40.54 | xoz | themill: you have a point there... |
| 18:41.12 | hark | Schuenemann: that looks ok |
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| 18:41.45 | Schuenemann | hark, why glxgears freezes now? |
| 18:41.48 | xoz | themill: im using mac for pdflatex which is fast because mac graphic engine is pdf... |
| 18:41.52 | Schuenemann | shouldn't I restart X or something? |
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| 18:43.36 | cousteau | can a .deb package version be called "0013"? or it must be "0.0.13"? |
| 18:43.57 | RichiH | you can call it 0013 if that is the upstream version |
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| 18:44.05 | RichiH | but i think that's ugly |
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| 18:45.59 | SparFux | With this, which distribution will be used? unstable or experimental? http://pastebin.com/d6cc51c05 |
| 18:46.04 | cousteau | I'm trying to pack a program which version is called "0013" |
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| 18:47.10 | hark | Schuenemann: moment |
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| 18:47.26 | jetscreamer | !apt-pinning |
| 18:47.26 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose packages when multiple repositories are enabled in sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
| 18:49.42 | jetscreamer | i 'think' it will take all it can from exp and fill in the leftovers with sid, but i forget |
| 18:49.45 | stew | !apt-pinning =~ s/packages when multiple repositories are enabled in/which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from/ |
| 18:49.45 | dpkg | stew: OK |
| 18:50.02 | Schuenemann | hark, sure |
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| 18:52.19 | juniorsa | Hi, can anyone give me a shell command (or combination of) that would give me the number of processes by user? |
| 18:52.57 | stew | juniorsa: pgrep -u username | wc -l |
| 18:53.24 | juniorsa | anyway to get a summary for all users? |
| 18:53.29 | stew | juniorsa: actually just "pgrep -cu username" |
| 18:53.57 | juniorsa | that would be each user at a time |
| 18:53.57 | Spec | Is it "normal" for a process to constantly just "poll" according to strace? |
| 18:53.59 | jetscreamer | - u * ? |
| 18:54.22 | jetscreamer | would that work? |
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| 18:54.51 | xingu | juniorsa: ps -ef | awk '{ print $1 }' | sort | uniq -c |
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| 18:55.21 | s1mone | http://www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=50998 |
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| 18:55.40 | alex23 | hi |
| 18:57.02 | doleyb | Spec: that sounds totally normal, depending on what the process should do. |
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| 18:57.42 | Spec | doleyb: it's an oracle process...it seems to only take up 99% CPU when strace is showing it's just polling/gettimeofdaying |
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| 18:58.28 | juniorsa | xingu: thanks that worked well |
| 18:58.44 | doleyb | Spec: that sounds bad... repeatedly calling poll instead of waiting in it. |
| 18:59.10 | Spec | doleyb: it seems like this is going to be difficult to debug. :) |
| 18:59.17 | xingu | Spec: strace only shows system calls; from the sounds of it the code is going bezerk doing something in _userland_ |
| 18:59.28 | Spec | xingu: that sounds likely. |
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| 18:59.44 | Spec | I can't possibly pin point the code that's associated with this process though |
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| 19:00.48 | sabayonweb_37390 | HELLO can i get Batcktrack Linux Help in here? xD |
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| 19:01.21 | xingu | Spec: should be possible to work out if it's a child process or not; child processes setproctitle() to oracleSID |
| 19:01.29 | xingu | Spec: where SID is what it needs to be. |
| 19:01.49 | Spec | so i should strace looking for setproctitle? |
| 19:02.30 | xingu | Spec: no, just look at ps -o cmd -p ${PID} |
| 19:02.32 | Spec | it seems when the process gets stuck on a "read(13, ", cpu usage is back to normal |
| 19:02.33 | jetscreamer | so my * question isn't worthy eh |
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| 19:03.25 | klikklak | I solved it. sdlmame wants -cfg_directory to know where to write the cfg's. |
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| 19:03.34 | Spec | xingu: yeah, that's just oracle(instance name) (LOCAL=no) |
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| 19:03.59 | hareldvd1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.13 | xingu | Spec: right; so the next step is point whoracle enterprise mangler at it and find out what that sid,pid is doing |
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| 19:04.24 | xingu | Spec: or do the same thing by poking about in v$session and whatnot |
| 19:04.32 | Spec | xingu: can the whoracle enterprise mangler actually show what each pid is doing? |
| 19:04.49 | xingu | Spec: it can show you what sql statement it's executing, yes |
| 19:04.57 | Spec | sweet. i'll look around then. thanks for the pointers |
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| 19:05.55 | xingu | Spec: my guess would be that you've got some plsql that's going apeshit - a while (1) { ... } loop. |
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| 19:06.29 | Spec | xingu: that would be a reasonable guess :) |
| 19:06.32 | xingu | Spec: might be worth a quick check to see what /proc/${pid}/fd/13 is and whether it's a socket connected to thin air |
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| 19:07.13 | Spec | xingu: broken symlink to a socket |
| 19:07.27 | xingu | Spec: does that socket exist per netstat -anp ? |
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| 19:08.14 | Spec | xingu: fd/13: broken symbolic link to `socket:[6424605]' |
| 19:08.20 | Spec | xingu: netstat -anp|grep 6424605 |
| 19:08.22 | Spec | returns nothing |
| 19:08.25 | Spec | if that's what you're asking :p |
| 19:09.28 | xingu | Spec: hmm it's been a while, ok let's see how to map this relation |
| 19:09.51 | Spec | xingu: doesn't the fact the symlink is broken mean the socket doesn't exist? |
| 19:10.09 | xingu | Spec: nope, just means that it doesn't exist in vfs namespace |
| 19:10.28 | Spec | well, lsof shows it's an established connection i think |
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| 19:10.40 | xingu | Spec: ok that'll do if it's fd 13 |
| 19:11.11 | Spec | oracle 22845 oracle 13u IPv4 6424605 TCP 192.168.1.5:1521->frontend.company.com:33642 (ESTABLISHED) |
| 19:11.12 | xingu | Spec: it's always worth checking; wouldn't be the first time I'd heard of an oracle client process spinning hard after losing its socket but before being reaped |
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| 19:11.33 | Spec | xingu: how long does it usually take for a process to get reaped after losing it's socket? |
| 19:12.03 | xingu | Spec: ... so if that's established at both ends then you've eliminated it; can't remember what the defaults are, they're configurable. |
| 19:12.11 | Spec | eliminated what? |
| 19:12.36 | xingu | Spec: check socket state for socket connected to fd 13 at both src and dest host |
| 19:12.46 | xingu | Spec: if both ends agree it's established - it is. |
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| 19:13.41 | Spec | would it have the same socket name? |
| 19:13.44 | Spec | on both sides? |
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| 19:14.03 | xingu | Spec: it'd have the same socket number - 33642 on dst per your paste above |
| 19:14.05 | Spec | or am i looking for the 33642 on th eother side? |
| 19:14.07 | Spec | ah, ok |
| 19:14.14 | Spec | established... |
| 19:14.25 | xingu | right, so you can rule that line of enquiry out |
| 19:14.30 | Spec | the only weird thing is on the destination side it says IPv6 and on the host side it says IPv4 |
| 19:14.34 | xingu | Spec: so it's probably just some mad plsql |
| 19:14.44 | xingu | Spec: shouldn't matter what address family it thinks it is |
| 19:14.49 | zzattack2 | I'm trying to run pure-ftpd alongside proftpd, but synaptic prevents me from having both instaleld at the same time. How can I force synaptic not to remove the first one when trying to install the other? |
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| 19:14.52 | Spec | 'k, i'll fire up the mangler :p |
| 19:15.00 | Spec | i gotta get coffee first. |
| 19:16.14 | alex23 | how can i enable xsl support on php5 on debian lenny? I need to change the configure line, does this mean i need to recompile it? i can t find a php-xsl packet in aptitude. |
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| 19:17.05 | xingu | jetscreamer: can't see your original q in scrollback? |
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| 19:18.22 | jetscreamer | [13.53.04] <stew> juniorsa: pgrep -u username | wc -l -u * instead of username.. would that give all users |
| 19:18.50 | jetscreamer | can't try it atm |
| 19:18.52 | xingu | jetscreamer: it wouldn't :) |
| 19:18.53 | stew | pgrep: invalid user name: * |
| 19:18.56 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 19:19.01 | jetscreamer | thankee |
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| 19:19.24 | xingu | jetscreamer: -u constrains to _a_ user; without it all processes match. |
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| 19:20.22 | amikrop | xoz: What package do I need, to have start-stop-daemon available? |
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| 19:27.13 | leoechevarria | hi guys |
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| 19:27.38 | leoechevarria | i need your help, can anyone give me a hand? |
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| 19:28.08 | doleyb | !ask |
| 19:28.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 19:28.44 | zzattack2 | I'm trying to run pure-ftpd alongside proftpd, but synaptic prevents me from having both instaleld at the same time. How can I force synaptic not to remove the first one when trying to install the other? |
| 19:28.56 | leoechevarria | ...allright, i just wanna be polite :p |
| 19:28.59 | Waxhead | This ( http://pastebin.ca/1362522 ) bashscript fails when I have uncommented line 46,47 and 48. I get unexpected end of file but I have no idea why... :( |
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| 19:29.32 | stew | zzattack2: you can't easily do that |
| 19:30.03 | zzattack2 | stew: I know I can just download the .deb files and use them instead, but that doesnt seem to be a good idea |
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| 19:30.20 | stew | zzattack2: how would you use the .deb files? |
| 19:30.30 | amikrop | xoz: OK, let's say I want to start a script, daemonize it, make it infinitely start again if it fails, and make it to start at boot. Will that do it? $ sudo launchtool -d -L myscript.sh |
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| 19:31.02 | leoechevarria | i'm in a local network with debians, and their ips are given by dhcp (they're all connected to a switch)... and i want to resolv ip numbers and hostnames without setting static ips |
| 19:31.04 | zzattack2 | stew: my old configuration used proftpd with a small modification, and pure-ftpd from the debian repositories, so I just install proftpd with dpkg -i |
| 19:31.17 | leoechevarria | so i can do, for example, ssh pc01.school |
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| 19:31.21 | leoechevarria | and it resolvs its ip |
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| 19:34.19 | kaeles | anyone had any issues using the lenny cd image to install on an alpha machine, or is it just me? |
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| 19:36.14 | kaeles | The machine will try and boot the cd, but it says that sector 0 is not bootable, I've reburned it and double checked the md5 hash, so everything there is good, just wondering if anyone else had issues or if my cd is just dead or something. |
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| 19:37.47 | steven | Hi |
| 19:38.07 | unop | leoechevarria, all machines run debian? |
| 19:38.11 | steven | Has anyone built a iSCSI server using debian ? |
| 19:38.24 | keith4 | !polls |
| 19:38.25 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
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| 19:38.45 | steven | ah badgers |
| 19:39.25 | steven | Has anyone built a iSCSI server using debian and tackeled the problem of network volume replication.. ?? :) |
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| 19:40.34 | steven | or for that matter accomplished the same with aoe ? |
| 19:40.44 | Chriswaterguy | I'm looking for a list of distros that are compatible (or almost fully compatible) with Debian repositories (i.e. not Ubuntu). I think Sidux (-> unstable), but what about DSL? Knoppix? |
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| 19:45.25 | Chriswaterguy | Just found the answer for DSL I think, on wikipedia: "Once APT is enabled, the user can install packages from Debian's 'Woody' repository." |
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| 19:46.20 | petemc | Chriswaterguy: considering the age of woody, that answer may not be valid today - i dont think you can rely on any non debian distros to be fully compatible |
| 19:46.51 | petemc | by non debian i mean anything other than debian itself |
| 19:47.54 | dondelelcaro | Chriswaterguy: there pretty much aren't any. The entire point of deriving from Debian is to change things, and sometimes that causes things to break |
| 19:47.56 | Chriswaterguy | petemc: thanks. I figured some must be more compatible - which would make me more confident that the distro's repos are of similar quality to Debian (as opposed to Ubuntu, say) |
| 19:48.14 | lepine_w | bind |
| 19:48.16 | lepine_w | sry |
| 19:48.38 | Chriswaterguy | e.g. sidux seems to come close, but wondering what else there is. |
| 19:48.52 | stew | Chriswaterguy: why not just use debian? |
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| 19:54.15 | rysiek|pl | yellow |
| 19:55.04 | rysiek|pl | guys, is there a way to automagically install a packages' deps without installing the package itself? |
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| 19:55.20 | rysiek|pl | yes, read man apt-get, man aptitude and googled on it ;) |
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| 19:58.19 | DarkRider134 | i need help, when I boot, it automatically goes to "error no operating system" there appears no way to edit the grub menu |
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| 19:58.46 | rysiek|pl | DarkRider134: tried hitting "c" or "e" in grub? |
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| 19:59.28 | DarkRider134 | i know that, the problem it automatically goes to "error no operating system" and when it gets to there, no matter what I press, nothing happens |
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| 20:01.03 | jpinx | DarkRider134: sounds like it's not reading grub at all -- try holding Esc during boot and selecting a different device to boot from |
| 20:01.15 | rysiek|pl | DarkRider134: jpinx beat me to it |
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| 20:01.34 | DarkRider134 | k thx |
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| 20:01.40 | rysiek|pl | DarkRider134: either your GRUBbed disk is not being discovered, or GRUB wasn't actually installed on the MBR |
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| 20:07.56 | adamb | if I wanted to rsync files with extensions *.jpg *.gif how can I do that in one line? |
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| 20:09.53 | valdyn | adamb: find -name "*.jpg" > file and rsync --include-from-file, see manpage |
| 20:10.01 | Chriswaterguy | stew: Sorry, didn't see (running on LiveCD, with no audio) |
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| 20:11.13 | Chriswaterguy | stew: I tried the net install (for testing) and it didn't recognize my HDD - gave me a long list of drivers and asked me to pick. Clearly way beyond my level in terms of patience, commitment to avoiding proprietary stuff, and tech abilities. |
| 20:11.35 | valdyn | adamb: actually that would be --files-from to rsync |
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| 20:12.44 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: youre not supposed to use the testing installer anyway |
| 20:12.51 | zozo | I ve install debian testing amd64 on an hp6830S but it freeze ramdomly and there nothing in the log |
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| 20:13.11 | valdyn | zozo: same for you, use the stable installer |
| 20:13.11 | Kuifje111 | hi |
| 20:13.12 | Kuifje111 | i've got a small question |
| 20:13.28 | dustybin | how do you find and replace all instants of a string in vim? |
| 20:13.52 | stew | Chriswaterguy: how recent was the installer you were using? |
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| 20:14.18 | Kuifje111 | are IDE HDDs faster if I install each at one port than installing both as master/slave at one port, or is there no difference? |
| 20:14.19 | adamb | hmm |
| 20:14.35 | zozo | valdyn I ve install it with the stable installer the laptop freeze ramdomly when i'm using (testmem give nothing work with vista) |
| 20:14.40 | zagibu | anyone know how to disable apache2 serversignature? i already tried ServerSignature off and ServerTokens minimal, doesn't work... |
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| 20:15.04 | valdyn | zozo: maybe its one of those laptops that overheat by default |
| 20:15.11 | zozo | zagibu it should work have you restart apache |
| 20:15.17 | adamb | valdyn: hereis my rsync line: rsync -ave ssh user@host:/dir/*.jpg ./ I want to grab *.jpg and .gif |
| 20:15.20 | zagibu | i have |
| 20:15.29 | valdyn | zozo: you would need to enable cpu scaling before it freezes |
| 20:15.35 | zagibu | i put the directives below serverroot in apache2.conf |
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| 20:15.39 | zozo | valdyn do you know what to do with this |
| 20:16.05 | Chriswaterguy | stew: it was downloaded 26 Feb - not long after Lenny was released, so I think it would be similar to Lenny, right? |
| 20:16.11 | valdyn | adamb: --include-from-file allows you to specify multiple patterns in a file, read the damn manpage |
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| 20:16.28 | stew | Chriswaterguy: i don't know. i'd think so |
| 20:16.38 | stew | Chriswaterguy: but that answers my question, which was about which kernel it would be using |
| 20:17.13 | valdyn | adamb: or --include="*.jpg" --include="*.gif" ( 2 times --include ) |
| 20:17.14 | zozo | zagibu be carefull it is set in /etc/apache2/conf.d/security |
| 20:17.24 | zagibu | ah, thanks |
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| 20:17.43 | valdyn | adamb: you certainly cant use shell globbing |
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| 20:18.40 | adamb | then is it just rsync --include --include user@host:/dir/* ? |
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| 20:19.41 | zagibu | you guys are even better than specialized channels... |
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| 20:20.50 | abrotman | zagibu: to be fair, #apache doesn't like the debian apache config layout and often sends people here |
| 20:21.14 | Chriswaterguy | stew: So I think for me, I need something that's more focused on hardware support (didn't think it would be an issue with a ThinkPad, but it is) and needing less geek skill to get working. |
| 20:21.36 | zagibu | okay, but still... |
| 20:21.40 | Chriswaterguy | hence the question about distros which are closely based on Debian (not as heavily modified as Ubuntu) |
| 20:22.02 | zozo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.13 | zagibu | Chriswaterguy: what speaks against debian itself? |
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| 20:22.20 | Quibus | hi all |
| 20:22.22 | Quibus | Suddenly sound stopped working, I'm getting errors like this: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
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| 20:23.03 | HellMind | i got sound in a console, but with an xorg term , aplay -l shows nothing why? |
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| 20:25.21 | Noble | haha, love you guys |
| 20:25.24 | Noble | it works now |
| 20:25.56 | axz | how to check if your VGa driver is installed correctly? |
| 20:26.07 | Noble | While im here, any suggestions on where to start reading up on more secure NAT with iptables? |
| 20:26.34 | swolchok2 | what's "insecure NAT"? |
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| 20:27.10 | Noble | sudo iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT |
| 20:27.12 | maligor | I think some configurations allow you to redirect traffic over it |
| 20:27.14 | Noble | sudo iptables --table nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE |
| 20:27.20 | jerojasro | I'm trying to install debian (stable) on a laptop with lvm over cryptsetup (luks). the installation sort-of goes fine, but when booting it can't find the / partition (which is inside of a lvm partition inside of cryptsetup) |
| 20:27.23 | Noble | thats the only think I have now |
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| 20:27.34 | swolchok2 | Noble: why's it insecure? does it allow the internet to relay connections through you? |
| 20:27.38 | konr | Apparently, I have no /etc/init.d/functions. Which package contains it? |
| 20:27.43 | maligor | Noble, why not use shorewall or such? |
| 20:27.50 | swolchok2 | konr: apt-file search /etc/init.d/functions |
| 20:27.52 | jerojasro | I've chrooted to the / partition, what can I do to fix the boot process? |
| 20:27.53 | Noble | do I need gui for that? |
| 20:27.54 | valdyn | jerojasro: and where is /boot ? |
| 20:27.56 | simonrvn | konr: /lib/init |
| 20:28.01 | swolchok2 | konr: sudo apt-file update may be necessary |
| 20:28.08 | jerojasro | valdyn: in a physical partition (/dev/sda1) |
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| 20:28.25 | rysiek|pl | Noble: shorewall *is* a gui; if you prefer iptables (like /me does), then what you have given above is pretty much as secure as it gets |
| 20:28.37 | Chriswaterguy | zagibu: my comment above, re hardware not being recognized. I'm sure it's fixable, but I don't have tech help here (for I'm in a small town devoid of geeks) and my main need is to get stuff done, not learn Linux - I do learn as I go, but I need something that doesn't make it harder for me than it needs to be (as a semi-newbie). |
| 20:28.39 | jerojasro | valdyn: unencrypted |
| 20:28.41 | Noble | ok thanks! |
| 20:28.45 | rysiek|pl | Noble: the *only* host visible and accessible from the internet without being invited is the NAT gateway |
| 20:28.47 | valdyn | jerojasro: im not sure cryptsetup and lvm are run in the right order for you |
| 20:29.01 | Noble | nice, just what I wanted! |
| 20:29.05 | rysiek|pl | Noble: now, you might want to secure this host, but it has nothing to do with Nat ;) |
| 20:29.12 | swolchok2 | seems like most (all?) linux firewall solutions are just iptables frontends anyway...i'm not really aware of an alternate production-quality netfilter analogue |
| 20:29.13 | Noble | I see! |
| 20:29.18 | lepine_w | why would nmap $if_alias_ip return nothing open ... when netstat -nlp does list a few things ... ? |
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| 20:29.32 | maligor | rysiek|pl, in ancient times when I last used it (Atleast I think it was shorewall), it was configuration scripts only |
| 20:29.32 | simonrvn | swolchok2: all |
| 20:29.53 | zagibu | Chriswaterguy: and you think another distro based on debian has better hw reco? |
| 20:30.00 | jerojasro | well, I had to put them up by hand when installing (luksopen and vgscan...), but I think that creating a proper initramfs would fix it |
| 20:30.07 | valdyn | jerojasro: hmm its ok, it should actually work |
| 20:30.25 | Chriswaterguy | zagibu: yes, lol. Debian is the *only* distro I've tried which didn't recognize my HDD. On a thinkpad! |
| 20:30.26 | jerojasro | is just that I don't know what to add to it, nor where to do so |
| 20:30.30 | Noble | thanks, down for reboot! |
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| 20:30.44 | Chriswaterguy | anyway, if noone can help re distros which closely based on Debian - thanks anyhow for the comments. |
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| 20:31.05 | zagibu | well, it's pretty strange... |
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| 20:31.27 | SoulSeller | Chriswaterguy, Debian also don't recognize my HDD on Dell Studio 1537 |
| 20:31.55 | zagibu | what kind of hds are we talking about here? |
| 20:31.58 | zagibu | SSDs? |
| 20:32.03 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: have you even tried to stable installer? |
| 20:32.06 | SoulSeller | Ubuntu and Kubuntu are working just fine. |
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| 20:32.52 | SoulSeller | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 20:32.56 | Chriswaterguy | valdyn: I tried an older stable - didn't go the whole way, but it told me to download the wifi driver myself. |
| 20:33.02 | SoulSeller | That's what I've tried. |
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| 20:33.24 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: older stable means several years old |
| 20:33.39 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: current stable is recommended, daily builds mean broken daily |
| 20:33.47 | stabuck33 | hi, i just got myself a new harddisk (1000 GB). there have been 3 harddisks before, sda,sdb and sdc. an although the new disk is a sata as the first 3 ones, fdisk -l descripes it as /dev/hdd - not /dev/sdd as it should... |
| 20:33.49 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: now im not sure why you skip the current stable |
| 20:34.05 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: any of those will probably not support your wifi however |
| 20:34.07 | rafaelscj | I've just finished installing debian lenny |
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| 20:34.24 | zozo | valdyn sorry to bother you but you seem to have the clue what do you mean by enable cpu scaling |
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| 20:34.42 | Chriswaterguy | valdyn: (the new testing gave exactly the same instructions re wifi - which also conflicted with the Intel site's advice. that would have taken more digging on my part) |
| 20:34.48 | rafaelscj | i used debian bussiness cd |
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| 20:35.05 | DarkRider134 | still won't work for me...installed debian on the external, grub on external(1,0), but when it boots it goes straight to "error no operating system" and then no keys work |
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| 20:35.13 | valdyn | zozo: about any modern cpu supports running at various different frequencies, that get scaled on demand or kept down when running just on battery |
| 20:35.14 | Chriswaterguy | valdyn: since I have a laptop, not a server, I'm not that interested in a distro that's updated every ~18 months. Not to say it isn't awesome, just not what I'm looking for. |
| 20:35.38 | Chriswaterguy | Anyway, didn't come to debate, just had a question. thanks all the same. |
| 20:35.49 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: i dont care if you use debian, you what you want, just that skipping of stable seemed odd |
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| 20:36.21 | Chriswaterguy | valdyn: I saw a lot of mixed advice on that one. Maybe I made the wrong choice, but it made sense at the time. |
| 20:36.30 | stabuck33 | is it normal that a new harddisk becomes /dev/hdd, even if it is a sata hd? |
| 20:36.39 | valdyn | zozo: now theres various laptops that are built in such a crappy way that they cant run at max clock speed continously |
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| 20:36.57 | valdyn | zozo: obviously users running the preinstall windows whatever would not notice that |
| 20:37.00 | rafaelscj | how do i do to install kde? |
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| 20:37.22 | Chriswaterguy | so, no one knows if most of Knoppix's packages are the same as Debian? or not? |
| 20:37.31 | valdyn | Chriswaterguy: they are not. |
| 20:38.05 | valdyn | !cpufrequtils |
| 20:38.09 | valdyn | !cpufreq |
| 20:38.09 | dpkg | cpufreq is, like, a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. |
| 20:38.14 | valdyn | oh wtf |
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| 20:38.29 | maligor | didn't know cpufreq supported arm |
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| 20:38.41 | zagibu | stabuck33: maybe you plugged it into a sata port that is on "ide emulation" or "legacy" or something in the bios? |
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| 20:38.56 | Chriswaterguy | valdyn: thanks |
| 20:38.59 | valdyn | maligor: what does that have to do with anything? |
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| 20:39.22 | maligor | valdyn, it has to do with the factoid you spammed on the channel ;) |
| 20:39.24 | valdyn | maligor: oh, i see |
| 20:39.28 | valdyn | maligor: yea |
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| 20:39.36 | rafaelscj | how to install kde? |
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| 20:41.57 | valdyn | !install kde |
| 20:41.57 | dpkg | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at the boot prompt of any of the installers. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall, or ask me about <kde version> |
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| 20:44.21 | Trewas | I was quite surprised to notice that cpu frequency scaling makes no difference at all for power consumption (tested on a c2d E6750 and some older thinkpad with 1.6ghz pentium m) |
| 20:44.50 | spersaud | just install gnome, its better |
| 20:44.57 | spersaud | and it doesnt install tons of stuff |
| 20:45.04 | spersaud | !install gnome |
| 20:45.04 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <set up x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
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| 20:46.15 | dccuser | Does tar(); know how to handle non-case sensitive file systems? |
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| 20:46.57 | zozo | valdyn thank i'll try right now |
| 20:47.09 | valdyn | zozo: that factoid is shite |
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| 20:47.22 | valdyn | zozo: just install cpufrequtils ( or did i say that already? ) |
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| 20:49.32 | dccuser | like, does it just write over the file or does it rename it? |
| 20:50.30 | stew | dccuser: i'm not sure I understand what you are asking |
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| 20:51.12 | dccuser | unix is case sensitive, so when a tarball is created it can have files with the same name but different case |
| 20:51.32 | stew | or a tarball can have multiple files with the same name |
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| 20:51.50 | dccuser | sure |
| 20:52.01 | dccuser | I can't find any resource that discusses this subject |
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| 20:53.11 | stew | dccuser: what exactly do you want to know? |
| 20:53.17 | valdyn | it will probably just overwrite with same name |
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| 20:53.38 | dccuser | probably |
| 20:53.42 | dccuser | but I need to know for sure |
| 20:53.59 | stew | !tias |
| 20:54.00 | dpkg | [tias] try it and see, or what you should have done first |
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| 20:54.16 | mrkiko | Hi all!!! I hate udev seriously, partially because here it causes problems with my braille display (yes, I'm blind). Can someone suggest me a way to make dpkg/apt ignore the rfact that alsa-base depends on it? I know technically why the package does need it, but... |
| 20:54.29 | mrkiko | how can I convince dpkg and apt to ignore this dependence? |
| 20:55.04 | abrotman | mrkiko: which kernel? which version of debian? |
| 20:55.45 | mrkiko | 2.6.28.6 squeeze/sid |
| 20:55.56 | part1zan_ | hmm... |
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| 20:56.15 | part1zan_ | maybe i should completely upgrade my system? |
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| 20:56.21 | stew | mrkiko: alsa-base doesn't depend on udev |
| 20:56.23 | mrkiko | alsa-utils 1.0.16-2 |
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| 20:56.33 | mrkiko | sorry |
| 20:56.34 | mrkiko | yes |
| 20:56.35 | mrkiko | it does |
| 20:56.42 | valdyn | !equivs |
| 20:56.42 | dpkg | hmm... equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also <usrlocal> |
| 20:57.13 | stew | mrkiko: you might try installing alsa-base with "aptitude install --without-recommends alsa-base" |
| 20:57.16 | mrkiko | Version: 1.0.19.dfsg-1 |
| 20:57.16 | mrkiko | Provides: alsa |
| 20:57.18 | mrkiko | Depends: lsof (>= 4.64), module-init-tools (>= 3.2.1), linux-sound-base, udev |
| 20:57.41 | stew | judd: depends alsa-base |
| 20:57.41 | judd | stew: alsa-base -- Depends: lsof (>= 4.64), module-init-tools (>= 3.2.1), linux-sound-base |
| 20:57.55 | valdyn | .19 is in debian? |
| 20:58.00 | hark | the sid versio does |
| 20:58.09 | stew | versions alsa-utils --release sid |
| 20:58.13 | stew | judd versions alsa-utils --release sid |
| 20:58.13 | judd | stew: alsa-utils -- sid: 1.0.16-2 |
| 20:58.13 | valdyn | mrkiko: you could use equivs |
| 20:58.34 | abrotman | i thought newer kernels all depended on udev ? |
| 20:58.49 | mrkiko | ok |
| 20:58.49 | stew | abrotman: no, but initramfs-tools does |
| 20:58.50 | mrkiko | thank you |
| 20:58.58 | mrkiko | aniway please - keep udev out of my life as much as possible :) |
| 20:58.59 | abrotman | stew: well .. logical progression? :) |
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| 20:59.35 | valdyn | mrkiko: it would probably be saner to fix whatever the actual problem with udev is that you are having |
| 20:59.39 | stew | mrkiko: use stable and a self compiled kernel |
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| 21:00.54 | mrkiko | stew: my kernel is self-compiled. |
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| 21:01.19 | stew | mrkiko: the alsa-base in stable doesn't depend on udev |
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| 21:02.03 | stew | mrkiko: but yeah, i agree with valdyn, you should look at fixing your problem with udev. it's becoming increasingly hard to avoid |
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| 21:05.39 | mrkiko | aniway (but this is only my opinion), I think the udev concept by itself is insane. Udev is doing simply too much things... |
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| 21:09.25 | dondelelcaro | mrkiko: you need something that does what udev does, and udev is a reasonable implementation of it |
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| 21:10.07 | dondelelcaro | (you basically need to be able to go: here's the chunk of hardware, load necessary drivers and make devices for them) |
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| 21:11.35 | mrkiko | I love equivs |
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| 21:12.26 | kjdro | hello. i recently installed dropbear sshd, very nice, low memory etc... but now i needed to change flash disks to a bigger one. resized partitions, after creating partitions i used cp -dRxv ... ... |
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| 21:12.59 | mrkiko | dondelelcaro: ... I think that modprobe and other good commands exist for this. I'm fighting against udev very hard aniway - I rewrote the part of it to load firmware files :) |
| 21:13.31 | kjdro | then i boot up and sistem started nicley only when i try to login to root account on dropbear it says: |
| 21:13.43 | dondelelcaro | mrkiko: modprobe et al. are fine for doing it manually, but we'd still need something to load modules on demand |
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| 21:14.51 | mrkiko | dondelelcaro: ok, but I feel you can't impose it. Ok, udev loads modules on demand (unuseful function for me, but this is another story). But udev is doing too much other things. |
| 21:15.24 | mrkiko | udev handles CRDA, udev does tricky things with alsa, udev loads fws and so on! and with xen? Udev does crazy things. |
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| 21:15.35 | mrkiko | I hate then when udev renames my ethernet interfaces for some reasons... |
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| 21:15.41 | dondelelcaro | mrkiko: well, you probably could split out the loading modules, firmwares, and making devices parts of udev |
| 21:15.42 | valdyn | mrkiko: udev doesnt do tricky things with alsa |
| 21:15.42 | mrkiko | i.e. /etc/iftab |
| 21:15.56 | dondelelcaro | mrkiko: you can easily disable the ethernet device renaming if you want |
| 21:16.05 | dondelelcaro | mrkiko: but that means that you won't have consistent device naming |
| 21:16.15 | kjdro | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.24 | mrkiko | :=) with an eee pc, there are not so much devices to rename :) |
| 21:16.45 | dondelelcaro | mrkiko: it has usb, so you can easily plug most things into it |
| 21:16.46 | mrkiko | but aniway - I'm not against udev per se. I would like aniway to be able to avoid it |
| 21:16.50 | valdyn | mrkiko: thats not udev things, udev is just used as a trigger, and you can switch that off |
| 21:17.06 | mrkiko | yes, right... |
| 21:17.22 | dondelelcaro | anyway, you can certainly live without udev... it's just going to be more effort in the long run |
| 21:17.25 | kjdro | hello. i recently installed dropbear sshd, very nice, low memory etc... but now i needed to change flash disks to a bigger one. resized partitions, after creating partitions i used cp -dRxv ... ... then i boot up and sistem started nicley only when i try to login to root account on dropbear it says: exit after auth (root): error changing directory . any idea what could be the solution |
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| 21:18.07 | SparFux | Every of these commands tries to make the same changes on my system: aptitude -t stable full-upgrade ; aptitude -t testing full-upgrade ; aptitude -t experimental full-upgrade. Why is this? Shouldn't it up / down grade to the specified dist? |
| 21:18.26 | valdyn | SparFux: nope |
| 21:18.33 | SparFux | Why not? |
| 21:18.48 | valdyn | SparFux: because! |
| 21:18.54 | valdyn | SparFux: downgrade is never supported |
| 21:19.10 | SparFux | So I cannot downgrade from unstable to testing easily? |
| 21:19.19 | valdyn | SparFux: precisely |
| 21:19.27 | SparFux | oh, I can give pin-prio of 1001 to * packages. :-) |
| 21:19.49 | myeggo | hello, i have a strange question, when i try to access rae.es, it takes long time to resolv dns |
| 21:19.59 | myeggo | can i add his dns in somewhere as a cache? |
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| 21:20.11 | valdyn | myeggo: /etc/hosts |
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| 21:20.16 | SparFux | valdyn: and I can set default dist to testing and over time my unstable will become testing. right? |
| 21:20.17 | mrkiko | myeggo see /etc/hosts |
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| 21:20.35 | myeggo | oh, thanks |
| 21:20.36 | valdyn | SparFux: nearly |
| 21:20.51 | CharminTheMoose | how can I remove the first 35 characters from every filename in a directory? |
| 21:21.04 | valdyn | SparFux: maybe completely for you, but its just not true for every package |
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| 21:21.35 | mrkiko | CharminTheMoose:see the moreutils package and the vidir command |
| 21:21.52 | abrotman | myeggo: you could setup a caching dns |
| 21:22.14 | myeggo | is it too complicated? |
| 21:22.18 | Sashi | argh |
| 21:22.21 | Sashi | wtf lol |
| 21:22.26 | Sashi | cant get ioncube to wokrk |
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| 21:25.14 | Tramp | CharminTheMoose: for f in *; do g=${f#????????....}; echo $g; done <-- you need 35 "?"s. And please don't crosspost |
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| 21:26.07 | CharminTheMoose | Tramp, sure thing! :-) |
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| 21:28.00 | spacepluk | hi, I'm using this to list the packages I've installed from unstable: dpkg-query -W -f='${Package;40} ${Version;20} ${Origin} \n' |
| 21:28.02 | CharminTheMoose | Tramp, well I mean physically changing the filenames. |
| 21:28.11 | CharminTheMoose | Do i need to put a mv in there? |
| 21:28.11 | spacepluk | but the Origin field is always empty |
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| 21:29.12 | Tramp | CharminTheMoose: well, instead of echo "$g" you can mv "$f" "$g" - don't forget the quotes (as I didi in my example) and check with "echo mv ..." first, that it really does what you want |
| 21:29.15 | peleg | Hello. I have logged in to my university's server now using ssh; I want to "upload" files to there. How can I do that? It's not direct ssh: I have ssh'd into a "gate" first, and there ssh'd again to the wanted server. |
| 21:29.46 | kroddnoMobil | peleg: you can try portforwarding |
| 21:29.58 | peleg | what do you mean? |
| 21:30.00 | kroddnoMobil | and then use this port-forwarding for copying |
| 21:30.18 | peleg | so you say there is no "proper" way? |
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| 21:30.38 | kroddnoMobil | ssh -L 10022:<second-host-name>:22 <first-host-name> |
| 21:30.59 | peleg | what -L does? |
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| 21:31.02 | kroddnoMobil | and then use "scp -P 10022 ..." |
| 21:31.03 | peleg | (and thanks :) ) |
| 21:31.08 | keith4 | or sftp |
| 21:31.19 | kroddnoMobil | if forwards port 22 on <second-host-name> to your local port 10022 |
| 21:31.53 | jelly-home | circumventing firewalls for fun and profit |
| 21:32.04 | kroddnoMobil | ? |
| 21:32.26 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, not working. It just ignores the "second-host-name" |
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| 21:32.41 | kroddnoMobil | I don't think that this ssh-thing is done for firewalling, I know that from my uni too |
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| 21:33.11 | kroddnoMobil | peleg: after you logged onto your uni's router, how do you connect to the host you want to login? |
| 21:33.20 | Tramp | peleg: whoever set up this gate should provide a means for transferring files unless they don't want you to transfer files. Maybe you can download to the gate and then transfer from there |
| 21:33.31 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, (gate)>ssh lingo |
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| 21:33.39 | Pillz | Hey guys, I've read the installation guide but I was wondering if it is possible to install Debian without Gnome/KDE/Xfce. Basically a commandline install which includes Xorg and then pick the window manger/etc of my choice? Openbox only for example. Or is there another way to do it? |
| 21:33.44 | kroddnoMobil | and your gate? |
| 21:33.52 | kroddnoMobil | the command should read like this |
| 21:34.17 | kroddnoMobil | ssh -L 10022:lingo:22 gate.your-uni.net |
| 21:34.40 | kroddnoMobil | keep that session open and type on another console: |
| 21:34.48 | kroddnoMobil | ssh -P 10022 localhost |
| 21:34.51 | peleg | that's what I did |
| 21:35.01 | peleg | the first thing |
| 21:35.02 | kroddnoMobil | äh |
| 21:35.05 | kroddnoMobil | ssh -p 10022 localhost |
| 21:35.11 | peleg | ok |
| 21:35.25 | kroddnoMobil | then you should get login to the machine lingo |
| 21:35.29 | nareshov | Pillz: yes. deselect desktop env during install |
| 21:35.33 | peleg | ssh: connect to host localhost port 10022: Connection refused |
| 21:35.37 | Pillz | okay thankyou |
| 21:35.48 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, I am not in lingo, I'm in (gate) |
| 21:35.55 | kroddnoMobil | yes, thats right |
| 21:36.06 | kroddnoMobil | open a NEW terminal on your machine |
| 21:36.08 | nareshov | Pillz: but you need to install xserver-xorg and openbox later |
| 21:36.11 | kjdro | LOOOl i forgot to copy the root - user directory |
| 21:36.16 | peleg | ok, opened |
| 21:36.24 | kroddnoMobil | there you type that command |
| 21:36.26 | gravity | gnrgh... xorg, not xserver-xorg |
| 21:36.27 | nareshov | and maybe gdm or xinit (if you use startx) |
| 21:36.37 | kroddnoMobil | The port 10022 is at your home computer |
| 21:36.42 | nareshov | hm |
| 21:37.53 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, great :) |
| 21:37.59 | kroddnoMobil | good |
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| 21:38.30 | kroddnoMobil | and now you can use localhost and port 10022 for copying to "lingo" |
| 21:38.50 | kroddnoMobil | with whatever programm you want, scp, rsync, sftp etc. |
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| 21:39.53 | enouf | Pillz 'standard' when you get to tasksel perhaps - i haven't seen the recent installers and what the actual exact tasksel selection are |
| 21:40.06 | bruggie | hi all, how do i check version number again from an installed deb? |
| 21:40.18 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, I am trying this: scp -p 10022 /home/peleg/Documents/Math/Algebraic\ Geometry/ALGEO7.pdf pelegmi1@localhost:/~ --> but then it does not accept my password... |
| 21:40.34 | peleg | while with ssh it does |
| 21:40.43 | kroddnoMobil | scp need -P as parameter |
| 21:40.49 | peleg | oh... |
| 21:41.09 | bruggie | dont have a debian based system that i can use to check syntax, anyone care to help me out? (some user asked in another channel) |
| 21:41.10 | kroddnoMobil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.21 | peleg | hmm |
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| 21:41.24 | abrotman | you can change your PS1 |
| 21:41.40 | spacepluk | apt-show-versions did the trick, sorry for the noise |
| 21:41.53 | bruggie | spacepluk: ah thanks |
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| 21:42.08 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, well, it's not working. now it does not even ask me for pw |
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| 21:42.35 | spacepluk | bruggie: to check the version you can do apt-cache showpkg packagename |
| 21:42.47 | kroddnoMobil | but you can login "ssh -p 10022 pelegmi1@localhost" ? |
| 21:43.02 | bruggie | spacepluk: oh cool, that works too? thank! |
| 21:43.08 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, yes |
| 21:43.09 | groton | is it possible to fed "apt-get install" with a file which contains each line a package name to be installed? |
| 21:43.20 | kroddnoMobil | scp -p 10022 xxxx pelegmi1@localhost: |
| 21:43.28 | kroddnoMobil | without anything behind : |
| 21:43.37 | kroddnoMobil | this should copy into your home dir |
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| 21:43.53 | peleg | that worked :) |
| 21:43.55 | abrotman | groton: /msg dpkg debian clone |
| 21:43.56 | peleg | weird... |
| 21:43.59 | abrotman | groton: /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 21:44.09 | kroddnoMobil | peleg: maybe you just misstyped your PW ;-) |
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| 21:44.22 | peleg | kroddnoMobil, but it didn't even ask for pw :) |
| 21:44.29 | Pillz | Hmm. Does LXDE come with the ISO? Or are the only choices KDE/Gnome/Xfce for installation? They were the only ones mentioned in the installation guide. |
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| 21:44.46 | adama | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.52 | peleg | I see |
| 21:45.01 | groton | abrotman, thanks a lot |
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| 21:45.21 | kroddnoMobil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.25 | abrotman | judd: versions lxde |
| 21:45.25 | judd | abrotman: lxde -- lenny: 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5 sid: 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5 squeeze: 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5 |
| 21:45.30 | kroddnoMobil | on most boxes |
| 21:45.38 | Pillz | ok thanks |
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| 21:46.02 | kjdro | ppl can someon help me make line drawing characters work in putty ... (using debian) |
| 21:46.19 | kjdro | i get qqqqqqqqq's and xxx's |
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| 21:47.55 | dkr | uhm, isn't putty is a windows application? |
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| 21:48.24 | kjdro | yes it is... i use it to login to debian .. |
| 21:48.43 | kjdro | where mc is returning qqqq's and x'es and no .. nice borders |
| 21:48.55 | gravity | dkr: It's also been ported to *nix |
| 21:49.00 | kjdro | like nc did ... back then in windows |
| 21:49.02 | kroddnoMobil | setup the right charset/encoding in putty |
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| 21:49.20 | kjdro | kroddnoMobil... yeah .. that's the question how ? |
| 21:49.39 | kjdro | kroddnoMobil how can i find what are the right ones ? |
| 21:49.43 | dkr | maybe putty has a setting for the type of terminal emulation? don't think you can change it from the debian side |
| 21:49.43 | kroddnoMobil | i cannot tell now, because I am running linux ^^ |
| 21:50.11 | kroddnoMobil | dkr is right, there is a tab somewhere in putty where you can change the emulation |
| 21:50.12 | kjdro | a freiddn of mine told me to use: export LANG=c or export LANG=C |
| 21:50.16 | kjdro | but didnt help |
| 21:50.35 | kroddnoMobil | thats the locale, but not the terminal eoncoding |
| 21:50.38 | kjdro | i know... question is how can i check what kind of emulation do i need ? |
| 21:50.57 | kroddnoMobil | try try try |
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| 21:51.20 | kjdro | wouldn't ask if i didnt try every posibility |
| 21:51.21 | kjdro | :D |
| 21:51.42 | dkr | or maybe mc is using utf-8 instead of the old vt-100 line-drawing chars |
| 21:51.42 | helo | is there a command-line utility that will grab an image from a v4l webcam and store it in a file? |
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| 21:53.05 | dkr | helo: mplayer/mencoder can read from v4l devices. there's likely a more finely targeted v4l tool, though. haven't dealth with it in ages |
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| 21:54.10 | arcsky | evning, is there something wrong with this; mount emlin701.bin /mnt/iso -t iso9660 -o loop |
| 21:54.13 | johnrw | is there a deb for sun's java? |
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| 21:54.37 | kroddnoMobil | no, but an installer which downloads it |
| 21:55.00 | dkr | arcsky: was there an error when you tried it? |
| 21:55.29 | arcsky | http://pastebin.com/m738c2059 |
| 21:55.37 | dkr | arcsky: oh yeah, .bin is not iso9660, it's a properitary bin/cue format |
| 21:55.46 | kroddnoMobil | ia32-sun-java6-bin e.g. |
| 21:56.22 | kroddnoMobil | johnrw: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=sun-java&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 21:57.34 | johnrw | kroddnoMobil: thanks guy...! I am feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment... |
| 21:57.38 | datengast | is it possible to ignore proxy settings for apt-get? |
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| 22:01.25 | p0g0 | helo: google on framegrabber, but streamer, sane, Xawtv, and many more can do that. |
| 22:01.38 | arcsky | djace: what then? |
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| 22:04.35 | doleyb | helo: vidcat is meant for cli image-getting |
| 22:04.52 | dustpylex2 | Why won't GParted let me format my 4GB flash drive to FAT32? It's unmounted and I can format to ext2 ext3 and swap but nothing else... |
| 22:05.32 | omid8bimo | hi, i use lenny on amd64 laptop. i've just installed skype and adobe reader 8 i386 edition with dpkg -i --force-arch... and now when i want to start them, they ask for some libs not found, but i can se those libs in /usr/lib |
| 22:06.32 | lxsameer | hey people , how can i download just the dist/testing/main/debian-installer with apt or some thing else? |
| 22:06.35 | abrotman | omid8bimo: that wasn't very smart |
| 22:06.43 | hark | dustpylex2: check if you have dosfstools installed |
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| 22:07.16 | dustpylex2 | hark, oh thankee ^^ |
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| 22:08.10 | Blackfate | omid8bimo: apt-get install ia32-libs |
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| 22:08.59 | omidbimo | Blackfate: let me try |
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| 22:09.24 | Blackfate | omidbimo: im on ubuntu now but i think its the same package |
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| 22:11.38 | maddash | happened to modprobe's autoclean parameter? |
| 22:12.13 | omidbimo | Blackfate: i have ia32-libs already installed |
| 22:12.27 | maddash | if I gratuitously modprobe vfat, there is no 'autoclean' flag for vfat's entry inside /proc/modules -- wtf? |
| 22:12.58 | Pillz | Anyone know why the xfce/lxde ISO is so large..? |
| 22:13.06 | ZeuZ | OMG, even when I try to do free in a console, the debian host will drop segmentation fault.. I'm starting to cosider that the hardware might be severely damanged |
| 22:13.13 | Blackfate | omidbimo: sec |
| 22:14.19 | lxsameer | how can i know that what is the last repo that apt use? |
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| 22:14.45 | omidbimo | skype ask for libQtDBus.so.4 which i searched and i have it under /usr/lib |
| 22:14.53 | omidbimo | but it won't pick it up |
| 22:15.13 | lxsameer | omidbimo: did you try ldconfig? |
| 22:16.01 | Blackfate | omidbimo: apt-get install ia32-libs-gtk |
| 22:16.04 | Blackfate | try this |
| 22:16.05 | omidbimo | lxsameer: hey dude, yeah i did. i got it woking under etch, after upgrade to lenny it won't work any more |
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| 22:16.25 | omidbimo | Blackfate: i have that too |
| 22:16.46 | Blackfate | .. |
| 22:16.51 | Pillz | When installing Debian Lenny with LXDE, what extra programs are included? |
| 22:17.26 | maddash | Pillz: why don't you just use the netinst iso? and install lxde manually? |
| 22:17.42 | Pillz | i have horrible luck installing Xorg manually |
| 22:17.57 | kjdro | hmm someon sugested that i use : echo %LC_CTYPE , to find out what character debian uses.. problem is .. i get null... no result |
| 22:18.00 | kjdro | any idea ? |
| 22:18.07 | maddash | Pillz: how hard can it be to execute, as root, `apt-get install xserver-xorg`? |
| 22:18.24 | maddash | kjdro: dpkg -l |grep locales |
| 22:18.31 | maligor | I think 'xorg' is the high level meta |
| 22:18.32 | kjdro | oppa .. srry echo $LC_CTYPE |
| 22:18.41 | maligor | not xserver-xorg |
| 22:18.44 | Pillz | Honestly couldn't tell you why I've never gotten it to work |
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| 22:19.18 | maddash | Pillz: i think that's your solution. go try it. |
| 22:19.26 | kjdro | maddash: ii locales 2.7-18 GNU C Library: National Language (locale) da |
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| 22:20.05 | gravity | maddash: It amounts to the same thing, and he's right, almost everyone should use xorg instead of xserver-xorg |
| 22:20.05 | kjdro | maddash : what now .. should be something like iso..etc.. or utf .. etc.. |
| 22:20.05 | Pillz | ok |
| 22:20.13 | gravity | Pillz: What's the problem? |
| 22:20.31 | maddash | kjdro: invoke, 'locale' |
| 22:20.49 | maddash | kjdro: LC_CTYPE isn't an envvar |
| 22:21.06 | Pillz | Every time ive tried to set up xorg manually my xorgconfig file doesn't seem to work right, so when i edit it for perfered screen res and depth it breaks on me |
| 22:21.40 | kjdro | maddog: i get some error messages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132217/ |
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| 22:21.58 | Pillz | which is why i've given up attempting to install arch and decided to give debian a go |
| 22:22.11 | Pillz | but ill try out the netinst |
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| 22:22.45 | gravity | Pillz: Well, I have no idea what arch does, but what do you want to do differently than the Xserver defaults to? |
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| 22:23.47 | Hodapp_ | Okay, so I just installed OpenSSI on a cluster with Debian lenny... and now I can't compile a "hello, world" program because crtn.o is missing |
| 22:23.47 | Pillz | nothing, just change the perfer screen settings from 800x600 to 1024x768 |
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| 22:23.57 | maddash | kjdro: echo $LANG |
| 22:23.58 | Hodapp_ | just where is crtn.o supposed to come from? |
| 22:24.24 | gravity | Pillz: It should default to that. What driver? |
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| 22:25.05 | kjdro | maddash: i get some change here.... now it's better but not what i want ... i want graphical now i get line encoding almost good. i set LANG manually cus it;s not set.. i tryed export LANG=c |
| 22:25.08 | Pillz | i was using vesa, but that was a mistake on my part |
| 22:25.17 | kjdro | maddash should i use "C" big c ? |
| 22:25.30 | maddash | wtf is 'C'? |
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| 22:25.40 | gravity | Pillz: Basically you shouldn't need to do much of anything in xorg.conf. The X server should just make it work by default |
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| 22:25.50 | Pillz | so ive been told |
| 22:25.52 | kjdro | export LANG=C ... no idea.. a friend told me to try it |
| 22:26.09 | valdyn | kjdro: thats the locale that should always work |
| 22:26.10 | maddash | kjdro: as root, 'echo LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > /etc/default/locale' |
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| 22:26.14 | gravity | Pillz: What video chip do you have? |
| 22:26.32 | Pillz | legacy intel |
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| 22:26.48 | gravity | How legacy? |
| 22:26.51 | Pillz | apparently its covered by the intel driver tho, which, i didnt notice until after i tried using vesa |
| 22:26.59 | gravity | Oh, ok. So you should be ok. |
| 22:27.17 | valdyn | Pillz: can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a paste site? |
| 22:27.17 | gravity | You shouldn't have to configure your driver. It should just pick the right one for you, at least on Debian. |
| 22:27.21 | gravity | Again, no idea about arch |
| 22:27.44 | Pillz | valdyn - that was on an arch install, ive reformatted the HD since then for other experiementing |
| 22:27.54 | valdyn | Pillz: ok |
| 22:28.06 | Pillz | Trying Debian now =P |
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| 22:28.16 | Pillz | Ill report back with results though |
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| 22:28.25 | valdyn | Pillz: ill guess then that arch isnt at fault but just cant detect your display, which might be because its an old display |
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| 22:29.02 | Pillz | Yeah, that was also a problem. Old monitor |
| 22:29.09 | valdyn | Pillz: and default conservative display specs dont go paste 800x600 |
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| 22:29.19 | Pillz | ah |
| 22:29.23 | valdyn | Pillz: you would not need to add a display mode, but monitor specs |
| 22:29.28 | Pillz | didnt know that =P |
| 22:30.01 | Pillz | well ill see if i can set it up correctly in about an hour i guess when ive finish the download |
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| 22:30.34 | spacepluk | where is linux-kbuild-2.6.28 ?? |
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| 22:30.51 | azeem | spacepluk: not available yet |
| 22:31.09 | valdyn | !new |
| 22:31.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, new is the NEW queue for Debian packages, part of the incoming system, at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html |
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| 22:31.21 | azeem | valdyn: are you sure it's in NEW? |
| 22:31.24 | spacepluk | azeem: thanks, I thought I was doing something wrong |
| 22:31.37 | valdyn | azeem: no, im looking |
| 22:31.43 | valdyn | azeem: it was stuck there i think |
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| 22:31.49 | azeem | valdyn: I'm pretty it would get fast-tracked |
| 22:32.09 | valdyn | azeem: its not there now anyway |
| 22:32.19 | rerushg | Hodapp_ .... dunno what you're into..... you've been here, right?....http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=crtn.o&mode=filename&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 22:33.07 | azeem | spacepluk: you could ask in #debian-kernel on OFTC why it's not available |
| 22:33.31 | spacepluk | azeem: thanks |
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| 22:33.48 | J-_ | Where can I find a Debian Testing torrent to download? For minimal installation, do I need to use the netinstall method? Or, can I download one CD/DVD to install the base Debian installation with GNOME? |
| 22:34.01 | azeem | J-_: install stable, upgrade |
| 22:34.14 | azeem | J-_: but be warned that testing is quite unstable right now due to several library transitions |
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| 22:34.54 | maddash | azeem: my squeeze is doing fine. |
| 22:35.04 | maddash | azeem: how unstable could it possibly be? |
| 22:35.11 | valdyn | !anecdote |
| 22:35.24 | valdyn | !listkeys anecdote |
| 22:35.25 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'anecdote' by key returned no results. |
| 22:35.29 | valdyn | damn! |
| 22:35.36 | valdyn | maddash: thats not useful |
| 22:35.38 | maddash | valdyn: it's not an anecdote if we're all using the testing packages. |
| 22:35.43 | simonrvn | &anecdote |
| 22:35.49 | valdyn | maddash: were not all, you are |
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| 22:36.04 | simonrvn | i'm using sid |
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| 22:36.09 | utnubuuser | Hello -- Wondering if anyone's familiar with Lenny net install hanging once additional packages have been downloaded - |
| 22:37.10 | utnubuuser | I've got a system with only 246mb ram, and the installer hangs after downloading the 800+ files from the internet |
| 22:37.24 | valdyn | utnubuuser: that ram is enough |
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| 22:37.41 | valdyn | utnubuuser: maybe alt-fx has some debugging information |
| 22:37.57 | stew | maddash: expect many major transitions to start or to have started which have the potential to break large parts of testing for long periods of time |
| 22:38.01 | utnubuuser | how do i access that? |
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| 22:38.09 | tats | hi everyone |
| 22:38.11 | valdyn | utnubuuser: alt plus f key |
| 22:38.12 | bittin | hi |
| 22:38.18 | utnubuuser | thanks |
| 22:38.20 | valdyn | utnubuuser: i dont know which Fx key |
| 22:38.23 | tats | i'm trying to configure wifi access on my friend's computer |
| 22:38.26 | tats | he has debian installed |
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| 22:38.41 | valdyn | utnubuuser: im talking about function keys, not the letter F key |
| 22:38.43 | tats | the network is encrypted with WPA |
| 22:38.48 | utnubuuser | yup |
| 22:38.54 | Hodapp_ | rerushg: actually, I think I just found it there... I remembered I could search for files in packages about 5 minutes after I asked |
| 22:38.55 | maddash | stew: example? |
| 22:39.26 | tats | i just want to know if you guys know of any good guide/tutorial |
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| 22:39.36 | tats | or software that would make my life easier |
| 22:39.38 | tats | ? |
| 22:39.39 | tats | thanks |
| 22:39.40 | icebrain | tats: try wicd |
| 22:39.43 | rerushg | Hodapp_ ...... good luck... :) |
| 22:39.56 | stew | maddash: gnome, kde |
| 22:40.22 | valdyn | glibc2.9 just got in |
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| 22:40.36 | valdyn | seems to be smooth, but uh, you cant rely on that |
| 22:40.40 | tats | icebrain: looks great! is there a debian package? |
| 22:40.45 | stew | maddash: ruby, python |
| 22:41.02 | icebrain | tats: yeah, I think so |
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| 22:41.16 | tats | icebrain: cool ... thanks! |
| 22:41.20 | stew | maddash: boost, tcl, libdb, imagemagick |
| 22:41.22 | maddash | stew: hm, i only use python out of all those you named -- do you have a link I could check out? |
| 22:41.36 | Hodapp_ | rerushg: Yeah. I installed libc6-dev and it went away. Now I just need to see what else having an SSI kernel screws up. |
| 22:41.45 | stew | maddash: you use all of boost, tcl, libdb, imagemagick |
| 22:41.55 | stew | maddash: check the debian-release mailing list, that is where transitions are cooredinated |
| 22:42.06 | stew | maddash: and http://wiki.debian.org/OngoingTransitions |
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| 22:43.34 | Pillz | im going to be downloading this iso for the rest of my life D= |
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| 22:44.13 | johndoevodka | in what repository can i find linux-kernel-sources for my kernel version (2.6.26-1-amd64) ? |
| 22:44.50 | kjdro | how can i permanently set my locals to be utf-8 ? for root and for default user.. ? |
| 22:44.57 | valdyn | johndoevodka: you really want the headers |
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| 22:45.11 | valdyn | johndoevodka: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:45.21 | valdyn | !locales |
| 22:45.21 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 22:45.28 | valdyn | kjdro: ^^ |
| 22:45.48 | kjdro | ahaaaa |
| 22:45.50 | kjdro | thx |
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| 22:46.49 | Pillz | When I am done installing the the netinst, what do I need to download to set up Xorg and sound? |
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| 22:47.06 | valdyn | Pillz: and which desktop environment? |
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| 22:48.02 | Pillz | Openbox and Pypanel. I'll be putting Openbox in Xinitrc and everything else (conky/pypanel/nitrogen) in openbox's autostart |
| 22:48.18 | valdyn | Pillz: unselect tasks once you get there |
| 22:48.27 | Pillz | ok |
| 22:48.31 | valdyn | Pillz: or maybe leave standard task selected |
| 22:48.53 | valdyn | Pillz: dont select the desktop task or any other task imho |
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| 22:49.12 | valdyn | Pillz: later: aptitude install xorg openbox linux-sound-base |
| 22:49.14 | martian67 | does anyone know of an active mode public ftp i can connect to? |
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| 22:49.17 | johndoevodka | i need kernel-source so i can compile nvidia drivers |
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| 22:49.31 | Pillz | Alrighty. So standard task would include what steps? |
| 22:49.37 | streuner_ | johnrw: heh? |
| 22:49.39 | amphi | johndoevodka: kernel-headers package should be enough, I think |
| 22:49.40 | johndoevodka | im getting error "unable to find kernel source tree for the ...." |
| 22:49.41 | Pillz | oh ill need slim aswell |
| 22:49.58 | valdyn | Pillz: standard task doesnt get alot at all, no X |
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| 22:50.05 | Pillz | okay |
| 22:50.09 | streuner_ | johndoevodka: Did you drink too much? |
| 22:50.14 | johndoevodka | amphi: does something like kernel-source exist? |
| 22:50.18 | johndoevodka | streuner_: negative |
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| 22:50.28 | valdyn | Pillz: it will still be slim with that standard task |
| 22:50.51 | Pillz | no I ment the login manger SLiM |
| 22:50.58 | amphi | johndoevodka: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 22:50.59 | streuner_ | johndoevodka: nvidia is non-free ... |
| 22:51.13 | valdyn | judd: versions slim |
| 22:51.13 | judd | valdyn: slim -- lenny: 1.3.0-1+lenny1 sid: 1.3.0-2 squeeze: 1.3.0-2 |
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| 22:51.22 | valdyn | Pillz: so add that |
| 22:51.30 | Pillz | ya will do |
| 22:51.39 | Pillz | ty for the apt-get command |
| 22:51.41 | johndoevodka | amphi: ye, ive got them. thanks. i guess the problem lies within the nvidia drivers |
| 22:51.42 | amphi | can't you build nvidia with module-assistant? if so, m-a should take care of such deps for you |
| 22:51.48 | johndoevodka | no |
| 22:51.49 | Pillz | ive only used it a handfull of times before |
| 22:52.08 | valdyn | Pillz: xorg and linux-sound-base are kind of non-obvious, you can guess the rest really |
| 22:52.21 | Quicken2k | when is squeez coming out? |
| 22:52.28 | Quicken2k | timeline wise |
| 22:52.29 | amphi | !RSN |
| 22:52.30 | dpkg | i guess rsn is Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 22:52.37 | amphi | ;) |
| 22:52.38 | valdyn | !wwsbr |
| 22:52.49 | amphi | for small values of 'soon' |
| 22:52.56 | abrotman | !wwsr |
| 22:52.56 | dpkg | There is no estimate for the release of <squeeze> currently. Subscribe to <d-d-a> to get news on the subject. |
| 22:53.02 | amphi | Quicken2k: lenny was only just released |
| 22:53.04 | Pillz | Rest as in Openbox/etc? yes =P if there are any other essential components then Xorg and linux-sound-base then nope couldnt guess them =P |
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| 22:53.29 | enouf | !tell Pillz -about search |
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| 22:53.59 | valdyn | Pillz: trying to pull together alsa or xorg components in pieces is hard, thats not the case for most things you might want to install |
| 22:54.00 | kjdro | darn ... dpkg-reconfigure locales froze when it began generating locales ... |
| 22:54.08 | maddash | rofl |
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| 22:54.14 | maddash | re-invoke it |
| 22:54.19 | kjdro | en_US.UTF-8... and nothing happens |
| 22:54.32 | valdyn | kjdro: is your computer hardware broken? |
| 22:54.36 | valdyn | kjdro: disk full? |
| 22:55.19 | valdyn | kjdro: maybe its just taking its time |
| 22:55.42 | kjdro | not really... i just tryed to change flash diskcs from where i run my linux server.. to a bigger one... used "cp -dRvx" to copy everithing from one partition to the others... |
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| 22:56.45 | valdyn | kjdro: so your permissions are completely fucked now? |
| 22:56.56 | kjdro | i hope not.. are they ? |
| 22:57.08 | kjdro | aldow i saw some indication to that |
| 22:57.18 | valdyn | kjdro: they should be fucked |
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| 22:57.41 | kjdro | any other way to copy everithing while maintaining ?? |
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| 22:58.01 | kjdro | i just need bigger partitions |
| 22:58.04 | valdyn | kjdro: use cp -avx ( obviously the -v is optional ) |
| 22:58.13 | kjdro | i know |
| 22:58.17 | kjdro | about the v |
| 22:58.24 | enouf | wonderful |
| 22:58.36 | valdyn | kjdro: your command would be cp -Rdpvx, but thats to much to type )/ |
| 22:58.41 | kjdro | but i should use -d as well to not copy symlinked files or ? |
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| 22:59.14 | valdyn | kjdro: -a does it all |
| 22:59.21 | kjdro | aha.... |
| 22:59.27 | kjdro | that i didnt know.. |
| 22:59.31 | kjdro | let's try this |
| 22:59.41 | kjdro | but .. tommorow |
| 22:59.49 | kjdro | i go to sleep now... |
| 22:59.52 | kjdro | GN and thx |
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| 23:04.35 | johndoevodka | ssh |
| 23:04.44 | johndoevodka | ups |
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| 23:11.27 | ttuttle | Hey, anyone here have experience with speech-dispatcher? I'm helping a friend set it up, and it sometimes spins using 100% CPU and stops working. |
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| 23:18.21 | karsten | What are the available file syncronization tools? Eg: unison, though it's no longer actively developed. |
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| 23:18.51 | pl4yer0ne | define file syncronisation? |
| 23:19.19 | karsten | pl4yer0ne: |
| 23:19.40 | karsten | pl4yer0ne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_synchronization or aptitude show unison |
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| 23:20.09 | karsten | pl4yer0ne: Keeping lots of files synchronized in something approximating near real time across multiple servers. |
| 23:20.25 | Lns | karsten: rsync? :) |
| 23:20.28 | pl4yer0ne | ahh real time? so not rsync? |
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| 23:20.35 | Lns | ah |
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| 23:21.05 | abrotman | karsten: i thought there was somethign in fuse |
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| 23:21.45 | Lns | karsten: might want to look at the filesystem level, lots that have that functionality built in |
| 23:22.01 | karsten | Lns: Automated. |
| 23:22.01 | karsten | l100 servers in a web-serving environment, with up to 24 x 1 T |
| 23:22.01 | karsten | B drives each. |
| 23:22.01 | karsten | abrotman: |
| 23:22.01 | karsten | ' |
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| 23:22.15 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:22.18 | Lns | lol |
| 23:23.00 | Lns | how's that for automation! |
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| 23:23.51 | themill | dpkg: tell karsten about paste |
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| 23:23.54 | Rebbe | what is IRC server for debian? |
| 23:23.55 | themill | hides |
| 23:23.59 | karsten_ | Sorry, laggage. |
| 23:24.22 | karsten_ | abrotman: I thought hadoop did something like that but apparently it doesn't like serving single files. |
| 23:24.24 | prahal | Rebbe, irc.debian.org (or oftc) |
| 23:24.28 | prahal | both works |
| 23:24.32 | Rebbe | no, i mean IRCD |
| 23:24.35 | Rebbe | daemon :) |
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| 23:24.50 | Rebbe | that's why it's not easy to google much |
| 23:24.52 | abrotman | Rebbe: you want to know which ircd freenode uses ?or ones that are in debian ? |
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| 23:25.05 | Rebbe | anything good that i can use for home |
| 23:25.08 | prahal | ones that are in debian |
| 23:25.16 | abrotman | karsten_: http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=MonitoringFileSystems and http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=VersioningFileSystems |
| 23:25.37 | themill | Rebbe: apt-cache search ircd is a good start |
| 23:25.45 | karsten_ | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 23:25.52 | abrotman | karsten_: copyfs and powfs look interesting ... |
| 23:26.23 | abrotman | karsten: i make no claims on stability! |
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| 23:26.35 | Rebbe | themill: i've already found one and curious what people think. anyway if it is out of scope, i'll find out myself. thank you |
| 23:26.53 | abrotman | Rebbe: why not try it |
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| 23:27.11 | themill | Rebbe: ask real questions and you'll get real answers. /msg dpkg ask ; /msg dpkg polls |
| 23:27.37 | karsten | abrotman: It's OK, our valuation's down already since purchase. |
| 23:27.48 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:28.52 | karsten | And for those suggesting rsync: trying to rsync the entire storage hierarchy gives out-of-memory after about 12 hours of runtime. Doing one drive mount at a time is about 1-2 hours per sync, or a week or so given that I've got to feed passwords. |
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| 23:29.26 | Rebbe | thanks all, found interesting things |
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| 23:30.45 | abrotman | Mike? |
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| 23:32.44 | rgr | I have installed cpurfreqd and set the daemon to "dynamic" (having enabled ondemand and restarted it) but the CPU is staying at full clock speed. What have I missed? |
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| 23:36.18 | rgr | Or can someone comment on the link, if any, between cpufreq-set and cpufreqd-set? |
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| 23:37.56 | sylarstein | anyone know if sieve body extension is supported in etch or lenny in dovecot? |
| 23:38.41 | karsten | r |
| 23:38.43 | karsten | eh |
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| 23:39.49 | sylarstein | I found that etch =no |
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| 23:40.19 | karsten | Feh, even. Screen + remote connection + lag <= stupid. |
| 23:40.35 | abrotman | thinks karsten is having problems tonight |
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| 23:43.21 | s3a | someone that uses lenny ----> PLEASE pastebin me your 11-x11-synaptics.fdi file because i cant use my ethernet port otherwise and i need my laptop badly for school!! |
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| 23:43.59 | karsten | In interpreting dumpe2fs output: inodes minus free inodes is roughly the number of files + directories on the filesystem? |
| 23:44.16 | jelly-home | blinks at the link between 11-x11-synaptics.fdi and ethernet |
| 23:44.31 | luke3321 | Anyone have any luck with that "gnome-settings-daemon" error on gnome login? |
| 23:44.46 | karsten | In which case, there's about 23m files on a given filesystem here. |
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| 23:45.30 | abrotman | karsten: how do your parents feel about the work you do? |
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| 23:45.57 | karsten | abrotman: They're thrilled I'm working. |
| 23:46.00 | karsten | abrotman: Why do you ask? |
| 23:46.14 | abrotman | karsten: nevermind .. it was supposed to be an awful joke .. fail |
| 23:46.17 | abrotman | erm .. failed |
| 23:46.27 | themill | there's a lot of that going around tonight |
| 23:46.36 | luke3321 | abrotman: I think i got it |
| 23:46.39 | luke3321 | i think |
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| 23:46.46 | karsten | abrotman: Well, it's not a pr0n site if that's what you're intimating. |
| 23:46.56 | karsten | abrotman: Friend of mine is working in that area though. |
| 23:46.57 | abrotman | nice choice of words! |
| 23:47.18 | karsten | abrotman: Nothing intimate about pr0n. |
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| 23:52.35 | jelly-home | s3a: http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi |
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| 23:55.26 | gueux | hi |
| 23:55.39 | gueux | is there a way to define another shift+insert? |
| 23:55.48 | gueux | (I would like to do it with only one key) |
| 23:55.59 | gueux | I tried to modify my file .xkb |
| 23:56.11 | gueux | but it does not seem to work |
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| 23:57.50 | foetus | hello, how can i set the global setting for gcc in etch ? |
| 23:58.19 | foetus | (like cflags) |
| 23:59.51 | s3a | jelly-home: thanks but now it seems that my wired internet at home doesnt work and wireless does ill investigate further but thank you alot |
