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| 00:00.45 | killabeez | well |
| 00:00.54 | natsukao | can you fix the problem ? |
| 00:00.55 | Killabeez | irssi is kinda cool |
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| 00:00.59 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: MAYBE peercast... |
| 00:01.40 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: there ya go ;) |
| 00:01.48 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: what problem? you yelled something about mine distro, but my distro is not dammaged. Please tell us whats wrong in a longer sentence. Maybe after that will be someone able to help you. |
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| 00:02.04 | jpinx | wanders off for food and beer |
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| 00:02.11 | Rothgar | Is the Debian 2.6.26-1 kernel a bit bugged? |
| 00:02.11 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: do you know that tool? |
| 00:02.38 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: nope - but you can install it and report ;) |
| 00:03.11 | icebrain | does anyone know of a website monitoring tool? I need something that can detect website changes, but that can cope with dynamic changes like clocks and stuff: only major changes should be reported |
| 00:03.15 | natsukao | file:77cdrom/pool/main/g/grep/grep_2.5.3*dfsg-6_i386.deb was corrupt |
| 00:03.29 | natsukao | file:///cdrom/pool/main/g/grep/grep_2.5.3*dfsg-6_i386.deb was corrupt |
| 00:03.30 | stew | Rothgar: that's a hard question to answer, can you be more specific about what in particular you are asking about? |
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| 00:03.38 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: hmm... thanks :] |
| 00:04.23 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: isnt that media damaged? Have you tried to download the ISO again? Have you tried another type of file? (netinstall / businesscard etc) |
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| 00:04.58 | natsukao | file:///cdrom/pool/main/g/groff/groff-base_1.118.1.1-21_i386.deb was corrput |
| 00:05.05 | Rothgar | Well my error messages for example have accented "a"'s instead of quotes and I get error messages when compiling VMware for example and after reading around a bunch of places was told it could be eaither lack of obselete function code in the kernel which I checked is enabled |
| 00:05.15 | Rothgar | Or mismatched kernel data |
| 00:05.27 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: pls read what i wrote |
| 00:05.36 | natsukao | couldn't download package groff-base |
| 00:05.42 | Rothgar | I tried recompiling a few times and I can't get the system to boot which was weird |
| 00:06.02 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i have a question regarding VirtualBox and that is: on the bottom right corner of the vm, it has a feature to share host folders with the guest OS and when i select the folder to share, i can't locate the shared folder in vm (XP Pro as guest) |
| 00:06.04 | Rothgar | I have just downloaded the latest kernel from kernel.org to check but was curious |
| 00:06.05 | natsukao | failure while configuring required packages |
| 00:06.21 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: DO YOU READ what i wrote? |
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| 00:06.45 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: tiny problem - i cannot install gui... |
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| 00:07.46 | natsukao | the program debootstrap is terminated with an error (error 1) controll /var/log/syslog or the virtual console 4 for detailes |
| 00:07.49 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: there is not enough space on the /, no graphic card present in system, etc... plain standalone server. |
| 00:07.50 | icebrain | mimiloon: hi doctor Nick :P check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623560 |
| 00:07.58 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: hello? |
| 00:08.04 | natsukao | no i haven't try to use businesscard or netinstall |
| 00:08.13 | natsukao | i need of a full cd |
| 00:08.18 | Andy_IGN | natsukao why? |
| 00:08.25 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: any reason? |
| 00:08.38 | natsukao | because i don't need to work by shell |
| 00:08.46 | Andy_IGN | erm... |
| 00:08.49 | natsukao | i need to work with guy |
| 00:08.54 | Andy_IGN | you will. |
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| 00:09.06 | mimiloon | icebrain: thanks for the link |
| 00:09.14 | Andy_IGN | just get netinst / businesscard and it will download all packages from net... |
| 00:09.33 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: thats what NETinst means ;) |
| 00:09.45 | natsukao | in the past i used netinst |
| 00:09.54 | natsukao | don't like me |
| 00:10.03 | natsukao | i prefeer the full distro |
| 00:10.14 | Andy_IGN | well, its your choice. |
| 00:10.31 | Andy_IGN | i gave you option how to work your problem out |
| 00:10.39 | natsukao | yes, it's my choice |
| 00:10.46 | adb | bad one |
| 00:10.53 | Andy_IGN | adb: why so? |
| 00:11.01 | natsukao | but i don't want to work all the night |
| 00:11.03 | Andy_IGN | or was it on nats? |
| 00:11.32 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: well, netinst is generally faster than getting full iso images - you download only those packages you really need |
| 00:11.33 | adb | was for nataku |
| 00:11.36 | Andy_IGN | k |
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| 00:11.48 | adb | was for natsukao * |
| 00:11.48 | natsukao | and now i am in Tuscany |
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| 00:11.54 | Andy_IGN | and? |
| 00:11.58 | natsukao | i know that is fast |
| 00:12.08 | natsukao | but there is not gui |
| 00:12.17 | Andy_IGN | for installer? |
| 00:12.19 | Andy_IGN | what for |
| 00:12.34 | Andy_IGN | you really need to use a mouse in installer? |
| 00:12.36 | natsukao | no, there is not the desktop |
| 00:12.40 | Andy_IGN | there IS |
| 00:12.43 | pappanz_ | agrees with Andy_IGN |
| 00:12.43 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: is peercast gui only? |
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| 00:13.30 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: well, when i try to apt-get it, it wants those http://rafb.net/p/PEiovk25.html extra packages, so i guess... |
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| 00:13.41 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: wrong |
| 00:13.59 | natsukao | wrong what ? |
| 00:13.59 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: there IS, unless you messup the setup ;) |
| 00:14.14 | natsukao | and how to ? |
| 00:14.17 | Andy_IGN | there is no difference between netinst and full install |
| 00:14.35 | Andy_IGN | the only difference is that the netinstall gets packages from net instead of CD |
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| 00:15.15 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: I turned up # IceShare and # FreeCast - dunno if they might be of any use |
| 00:15.22 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: if you configure your eth(network card) in the installer properlly, you won't notice a difference |
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| 00:16.37 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: are those recommends or real dependencies? |
| 00:16.46 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: let me sum my requests : need lin srv, need support for win&lin cli, EPG would be great |
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| 00:17.29 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: req... reco are http://rafb.net/p/7QhTpi67.html |
| 00:17.59 | Andy_IGN | s/req/dep |
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| 00:18.23 | c0d3-r3d | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.59 | Andy_IGN | touch /var/run/proftpd/proftpd.scoreboard ? |
| 00:19.05 | c0d3-r3d | i havent no |
| 00:19.35 | c0d3-r3d | theres no folder :( |
| 00:19.43 | Andy_IGN | mkdir |
| 00:19.56 | natsukao | there is only torrent for netinst ? |
| 00:20.06 | c0d3-r3d | then make that file? |
| 00:20.14 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: nope, also http & ftp |
| 00:20.23 | Andy_IGN | c0d3-r3d proftpd should do it for you |
| 00:20.27 | natsukao | where ? |
| 00:20.28 | Andy_IGN | should |
| 00:20.33 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: debian.org ? |
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| 00:20.45 | nareshov | !debian-torrent |
| 00:20.49 | natsukao | i found only torrent |
| 00:21.12 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable |
| 00:21.13 | c0d3-r3d | thanks guys :D |
| 00:21.20 | Andy_IGN | c0d3-r3d urw |
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| 00:23.31 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: peercast.org says "You can do the entire configuration via PeerCast's built-in web interface. Simply point your web browser at http://yourmachine:7144 " |
| 00:23.31 | natsukao | 52 minutes with wi-fi |
| 00:24.02 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: yep... just found precompiled bin on the web |
| 00:24.30 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: so will it work for you? |
| 00:24.40 | Andy_IGN | dunno yet. |
| 00:24.46 | natsukao | i am not in Rome, but in Tuscany |
| 00:24.58 | natsukao | so i need to do a fast job |
| 00:25.27 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: well, just try to download full iso. It will give you much bigger time |
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| 00:27.00 | natsukao | why tomorrow i must to go from my father, and today i am from my cousins, so i must to do a fast job, why i must to download, mount and then start X and after to go in bed |
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| 00:29.41 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: well... no help for you. If you downloaded wrong image and then burned it without SUM check, its your bad. Now you have to wait, till the netinst (or perhaps businesscard?) downloads and then wait until whole gui package list downloads too... |
| 00:30.11 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: hmpf... will compile my own binaries... :-/ |
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| 00:32.29 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: will it not install with aptitude? |
| 00:33.08 | Andy_IGN | hmm... will try |
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| 00:34.06 | Andy_IGN | same result - tons of deps |
| 00:34.14 | Andy_IGN | :( i dont want gui |
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| 00:37.08 | Andy_IGN | sec... |
| 00:37.25 | seb_k | hi, i've got an problem with dpkg: |
| 00:37.25 | seb_k | ======= |
| 00:37.25 | seb_k | Unpacking libqt0-ruby1.8 (from .../libqt0-ruby1.8_4%3a3.5.10-1_i386.deb) ...dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt0-ruby1.8_4%3a3.5.10-1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/rbqtapi.1.gz', which is also in package libqt4-ruby1.8dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 00:37.25 | seb_k | ====== |
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| 00:38.29 | Andy_IGN | nope.. i just thought that i look for server package, found one, but that wants the gui too |
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| 00:39.15 | seb_k | #flood |
| 00:41.19 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: that's odd - I am getting a small in stall when I do aptitude show...Uncompressed Size: 872k |
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| 00:42.08 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: but you do have already xwindow installed, right? |
| 00:42.35 | craig | why when i add new users, they dont get put in the proper groups |
| 00:42.47 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: true - that's on my local laptop |
| 00:43.04 | craig | example, i can't use network-manager, gnome-volume-control or mount devices in gnome |
| 00:43.25 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: thats why... |
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| 00:43.44 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: as i said - i don't. |
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| 00:44.13 | seb_k | hi, i've got an problem with dpkg: |
| 00:44.13 | seb_k | "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)" |
| 00:44.13 | seb_k | but: the file is writeable (i'm root) and there is space on the partition. |
| 00:44.13 | seb_k | what could be wrong? |
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| 00:44.14 | craig | is there a script to add a new desktop user or something? |
| 00:44.15 | jpinx | on my lenny server (no X) it is the same |
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| 00:44.42 | Andy_IGN | weird. :( |
| 00:45.06 | seb_k | is is possilbe to post multible lines in this chat ? |
| 00:45.15 | adb | no |
| 00:45.17 | Andy_IGN | seb_k : nope |
| 00:45.27 | Andy_IGN | use pastebot or similar web service |
| 00:45.29 | zinx | seb_k: technically possible? yes. but don't do it, you'll get kicked/banned. |
| 00:45.40 | Andy_IGN | = no :] |
| 00:45.43 | seb_k | i've noticed... |
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| 00:45.53 | Andy_IGN | we too :] |
| 00:46.04 | zinx | seb_k: try paste.debian.net |
| 00:46.04 | seb_k | okay... dpkg says "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)". |
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| 00:46.49 | seb_k | but i have space on my partition, i'm root and the file is writeable |
| 00:47.17 | seb_k | any idea? |
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| 00:50.40 | jpinx | where's the file with the debian version specified please? |
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| 00:51.12 | Andy_IGN | try /etc/debian_version |
| 00:51.13 | zinx | jpinx: /etc/debian_version |
| 00:51.29 | zinx | jpinx: but for testing/unstable, there's no way to know which.. because testing/unstable use the same packages |
| 00:51.30 | jpinx | zinx: ta |
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| 00:51.48 | zinx | jpinx: testing just delays them as they're tested / bugs are filed against them / etc |
| 00:52.08 | jpinx | zinx - no - it's cool - I'm looking backwards to see if I've got sarge or etch ;) |
| 00:52.09 | zinx | jpinx: you can check /etc/apt/sources.* |
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| 00:52.55 | Andy_IGN | i've tried to upgrade etch > lenny once... and failed deeply on libc&deps... |
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| 00:53.31 | jpinx | looks like I have etch running on a xen server with a 2.6.16-2-xen-686 :( |
| 00:53.39 | jpinx | what a mongrel :( |
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| 00:54.04 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: I had a good experience on upgrading from etch to lenny locally |
| 00:54.08 | zinx | Andy_IGN: have to read the lenny install guide where it tells you how to upgrade from etch, or read the dpkg factoid for it |
| 00:54.27 | Kuifje111 | hello all |
| 00:54.30 | jpinx | I followed hte instructions carefully;) |
| 00:54.41 | Kuifje111 | where/how can i get proxy_mod_html? |
| 00:54.44 | jpinx | !tell Andy_IGN about etch->lenny |
| 00:54.56 | Andy_IGN | zinx: no need to, just installed lenny long time ago :) |
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| 00:55.28 | jpinx | is scared to run update on his mongrel server:( |
| 00:55.47 | Andy_IGN | aww crap |
| 00:56.01 | Andy_IGN | well... jpinx... "problem" solved |
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| 00:56.19 | Andy_IGN | i've just tried dist-upgrade... and forgot to clean... |
| 00:56.35 | Andy_IGN | so guess what... |
| 00:56.39 | jpinx | Andy_IGN: up from what to what? |
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| 00:57.15 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: just standard time-to-time upgrade (now im talking again about that peercast) |
| 00:57.35 | jpinx | ah - ok |
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| 00:58.06 | jpinx | it's not "dist-upgrade" it's "safe-upgrade" |
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| 00:58.25 | Andy_IGN | okay...... |
| 00:58.35 | Andy_IGN | nevertheless... peercast installed... |
| 00:58.54 | jpinx | heh - you got it whether you wanted it or not :) |
| 00:59.02 | Andy_IGN | yep :( |
| 00:59.05 | Andy_IGN | poor server |
| 00:59.17 | Andy_IGN | poor me when the boss realises.... |
| 00:59.29 | Andy_IGN | so long cruel world... |
| 00:59.37 | jpinx | even funnier :) |
| 00:59.49 | Andy_IGN | who cares :] |
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| 01:00.02 | Andy_IGN | one streaming server... |
| 01:00.07 | jpinx | yea - life is short - but fun :) |
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| 01:00.35 | Andy_IGN | jpinx: speak for yourselves... i've just found that i wont be ever able to get a pilot licence :( |
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| 01:02.38 | magyar | . 800 |
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| 01:08.49 | Andy_IGN | hmpf... peercast working, but i dont know the password :-/ |
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| 01:14.41 | Andy_IGN | good, im in |
| 01:14.43 | Rothgar | I am getting an error when trying to compile a new kernel it hangs at "waiting for root file system" |
| 01:15.10 | Rothgar | I have tried to make sure I selected all the RAId options that I believed were related before compiling, am I missing something? |
| 01:15.59 | Hoxzer | are you sure root variable is correctly set ? |
| 01:16.15 | Rothgar | How so the etc/fstab uses some /dev/mapper |
| 01:16.42 | Rothgar | Like: /dev/mapper/dcsrv2-root / |
| 01:17.20 | Andy_IGN | :( |
| 01:17.25 | Andy_IGN | peercast is useless... |
| 01:17.31 | Andy_IGN | it wont stream from DVB card |
| 01:17.46 | Andy_IGN | it is just stream forwarder |
| 01:18.02 | Hoxzer | Hmm, i have never used that but imho you should somehow tell linux the root partition. THat exactly the error I get if root= is incorrectly set |
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| 01:19.18 | eon1 | hey guys & grils - anyone here used zimbra with debian with postfix and dovecot? |
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| 01:20.15 | Andy_IGN | eon1 sounds painfully... |
| 01:22.06 | Rothgar | Hoxzer: I didn't ask for /dev/mapper :) |
| 01:22.44 | Andy_IGN | afj, BSG |
| 01:22.54 | Andy_IGN | s/j/k |
| 01:23.10 | Mac101 | does Debian do a live-cd? |
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| 01:23.23 | patrikf | !debian-live |
| 01:23.23 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ and #debian-live on OFTC (irc.debian.org) |
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| 01:23.43 | Mac101 | thx |
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| 01:27.07 | eon1 | Andy_ING - what do you use for Groupware? I would be interested in any suggestions |
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| 01:29.56 | Andy_IGN | eon1 thankfully nothing |
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| 01:31.38 | Andy_IGN | and i hope that my boss wont find anything about zimbra |
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| 01:32.59 | Andy_IGN | otherwise it will be up to me to implant it into that new mailer of ours... |
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| 01:40.29 | natsukao | i downloaded netinst |
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| 01:40.40 | natsukao | now i got this problem: |
| 01:41.30 | natsukao | Advise of debootstrap Attention: Failure while configuring base packages |
| 01:42.11 | natsukao | solve the problem into debian |
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| 01:43.23 | CoolCold | natsukao: very insteresting |
| 01:43.34 | CoolCold | never seen smth like this |
| 01:44.16 | adb | is a weekend compiled ;) |
| 01:44.24 | adb | !weekend |
| 01:44.24 | dpkg | methinks weekend is the time you can actually code without feeling remorses :) |
| 01:45.24 | natsukao | have you an old distribution GNU/linux Debian ? |
| 01:46.40 | CoolCold | natsukao: i've used sarge and etch, tryed lenny netinstall for 2 times in vmware and never seen that |
| 01:46.53 | Andy_IGN | looks like HW problem |
| 01:47.08 | natsukao | could be |
| 01:47.33 | Andy_IGN | well, then dont blame debian ;) |
| 01:48.37 | natsukao | but i can't touch hardware, and/or remove hardware, i would to do, but if they don't give me money i can't |
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| 01:49.04 | Andy_IGN | try resetting bios to defaults |
| 01:49.22 | CoolCold | mb just try with memtest? |
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| 01:49.38 | natsukao | buy the hardware, and in this moment my cousin, has not money to give me |
| 01:50.03 | natsukao | so i must to work with the hardware that i got |
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| 01:50.25 | Andy_IGN | natsukao: try resetting bios to defaults |
| 01:50.48 | natsukao | howto ? |
| 01:52.31 | natsukao | i am in the bios |
| 01:52.47 | natsukao | how to resetting ? |
| 01:53.23 | Andy_IGN | well, what about "Load bios defaults" ? |
| 01:54.19 | SerajewelKS | just to clarify, if i fork(), fds are shared. if i close an fd in either process, is it closed in the other, or must it be closed in both? |
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| 02:03.14 | natsukao | could be the dvd rw the problem ? |
| 02:03.31 | natsukao | now is totally locked |
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| 02:05.12 | Andy_IGN | locked? |
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| 02:10.10 | simonrvn | SerajewelKS: dunno about this at all, hm, since they're shared, i'd imagine they would be closed for both, but it's forked, separate child process right? so wouldn't you have to close in both to close an fd? (please note i'm guessing and educated guessing here, i imagine man 2 fork would say) |
| 02:11.16 | Mac101 | hi im using classic gnome login how do u make it keep the theme from the dropdown on reboot? |
| 02:12.38 | simonrvn | gdmsetup |
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| 02:13.25 | natsukao | a good mainboard for socket 478 |
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| 02:25.43 | natsukao | can you suggest me a good mainboard socket 478 ? |
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| 02:26.42 | adb | try #hardware |
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| 02:39.29 | ziroday | If I replace a config file from a new file it renames my old config file to <configfile>.dpkg.old or something similar correct? |
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| 02:46.05 | HeXiLeD | what is the name of ati radeon 7xxx driver? i need to modprobe it |
| 02:47.17 | beardy | !ati |
| 02:47.17 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>. and <radeon vs radeonhd> |
| 02:47.50 | beardy | HeXiLeD: /msg dpkg, and ask about those factoids HeXiLeD. I don't have one, so that's the best I can offer. |
| 02:47.56 | HeXiLeD | yah . thanks |
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| 02:56.21 | shadowkllr | hey guys, i'm new to debian, i'm trying to set a static ip and i have http://pastebin.com/m611ec17, but it doesn't seem to be working... |
| 02:57.51 | damog | shadowkllr: did you /etc/init.d/networking restart? |
| 02:58.18 | shadowkllr | :::rolls eyes::: i have a little bit more gray matter than that =) |
| 02:58.59 | damog | gosh. |
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| 02:59.18 | pgs | auto eth0 - would that make a difference? |
| 02:59.33 | Andy_IGN | should. |
| 02:59.38 | Andy_IGN | auto lo eth0 |
| 02:59.59 | shadowkllr | one sec |
| 03:00.03 | adb | and add a route |
| 03:00.03 | MarkMorbidity_ | hello does anyone lnow how to install gspca to install a usb webcam? |
| 03:00.26 | adb | apt-get install gspca |
| 03:00.28 | Andy_IGN | adb: route to what ? |
| 03:00.30 | liable | adding a route isnt neccessary as long as gateway is set |
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| 03:00.52 | Andy_IGN | exactly |
| 03:01.02 | adb | voila . tks liable |
| 03:01.09 | Andy_IGN | that line will add default route |
| 03:01.35 | Andy_IGN | oh... btw... FRAKING bsg |
| 03:02.02 | MarkMorbidity_ | nothing and it tells me i need to get kernel source |
| 03:02.10 | pickcoder | ShadowJK: get rid of the hot-plug and make sure "auto etho" is there |
| 03:02.10 | adb | MarkMorbidity_: apt-cache search gspca |
| 03:02.38 | Andy_IGN | pickcoder: both eth0 and lo |
| 03:04.27 | adb | MarkMorbidity_: apt-cache show module-assistant |
| 03:04.50 | pickcoder | Andy_IGN: if there's no auto eth0 then it won't come up at boot |
| 03:04.59 | MarkMorbidity_ | hey adb this is the vid i folowed to install gspca |
| 03:05.01 | Andy_IGN | sure |
| 03:05.01 | MarkMorbidity_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxVsxxfbggg |
| 03:05.14 | Andy_IGN | pickcoder: but same thing about lo |
| 03:05.20 | shadowkllr | weird |
| 03:05.26 | Andy_IGN | so there should be auto lo eth0 |
| 03:05.33 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr: what is |
| 03:05.34 | pickcoder | it doesn't HAVE to be auto lo eth0 |
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| 03:05.45 | shadowkllr | can you guys read this? |
| 03:05.45 | pickcoder | it can be auto lo and then auto eth0 on a different line |
| 03:05.50 | Andy_IGN | shadow: yep |
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| 03:06.02 | shadowkllr | yeah didn't work.... |
| 03:06.09 | Andy_IGN | pickcoder: okay... but we can agree that both needs to be there |
| 03:06.20 | shadowkllr | so what did i miss? lol |
| 03:06.24 | pickcoder | but it has nothing to do with the default route showing up |
| 03:06.30 | pickcoder | ifup eth0 should do the trick |
| 03:06.30 | Andy_IGN | shadow: when you type ifconfig do you see eth0 listed ? |
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| 03:06.44 | Rothgar | Is there a way to install a default kernel easily? |
| 03:06.47 | shadowkllr | si |
| 03:07.13 | Andy_IGN | do you see ip, netmask etc on that eth0? |
| 03:07.21 | shadowkllr | yep |
| 03:07.27 | Andy_IGN | try pinging your gateway |
| 03:08.01 | CoolCold | Rothgar: isn't apt-get install linux-image-2.6.blabla easy? |
| 03:08.18 | Andy_IGN | 2.6.26-1 afaik latest |
| 03:08.37 | Andy_IGN | (in deb) |
| 03:08.39 | shadowkllr | no problem there |
| 03:08.58 | pickcoder | Rothgar: you should have the "default kernel" installed if you have a base system running |
| 03:09.12 | Andy_IGN | shadow: try pinging 209.85.171.100 (google) |
| 03:09.12 | Rothgar | CoolCold: Yeah but I can't re-install it? |
| 03:09.21 | adb | why ? |
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| 03:09.40 | Andy_IGN | shadow: no route, or echo? |
| 03:09.58 | Rothgar | Somehow I have kernel 2.6.26-1-686 but my headers etc are only 2.6.26 and I think they are causing slight issues |
| 03:10.20 | Rothgar | When I get warnings etc the error message has accented a's instead of quotations etc |
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| 03:10.43 | adb | apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-2.6.26-1-blabla |
| 03:11.01 | adb | ah w/o --reinstall |
| 03:11.05 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: no problem pinging your gatewy? what's the problem then? |
| 03:11.22 | Rothgar | I did an apt-cache search and couldn't see a linux-headers-2.6.26-1 only a linux-headers-2.6.26 |
| 03:11.39 | CoolCold | this is ok |
| 03:11.39 | Andy_IGN | pickcoder: We're getting there. Either he have no DNS or no default route. ;) we'll know in a step or two |
| 03:11.47 | CoolCold | since "-1" is debian revision |
| 03:11.59 | pickcoder | Rothgar: there is only one package for headers for a kernel release |
| 03:12.25 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:12.43 | Rothgar | abd: Mine isn't -1 |
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| 03:12.54 | adb | it is in repo |
| 03:13.04 | CoolCold | Rothgar: what you dpkg -l|grep linux-image shows? |
| 03:13.10 | adb | http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
| 03:13.49 | Rothgar | it has about 7 entries |
| 03:14.06 | adb | CoolCold: no, he needs the headers for modules compiling |
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| 03:14.40 | Rothgar | I have tried a few times now recompiling my kernel even with 2.6.28 from kernel.org but none of them seem to boot |
| 03:14.50 | Rothgar | Only the 2.6.26-1 |
| 03:14.54 | CoolCold | O.o |
| 03:14.55 | adb | Rothgar: uname -r |
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| 03:15.10 | Rothgar | My /etc/fstab is using /dev/mapper |
| 03:15.12 | CoolCold | i think u doing/getting smth wrong |
| 03:15.23 | Rothgar | I think maybe the mapper is not working on the other kernels maybe not sure |
| 03:15.28 | CoolCold | what the real task you need to do? |
| 03:15.42 | pickcoder | !tell Rothgar about kp-mantra |
| 03:15.56 | Rothgar | Try and recompile with depreciated functions enabled |
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| 03:16.37 | adb | paste your /etc/fstab |
| 03:17.37 | Rothgar | abd: http://pastebin.com/d58a09a4e |
| 03:17.44 | here4thegear | I have a question, when I ps auxx .... I am showing init [2].. at work, we always show init [3].. my limited understanding is that, there are several levels to your bootup, .. like safemode would be like init[1] or whatever... by default in debian what does init[2] mean and is that where I want to be? |
| 03:18.42 | adb | Rothgar: uname -r |
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| 03:18.50 | jetscreamer | !runlevel |
| 03:18.50 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212, or ask me about <startup>, or for a real twist, see <file-rc> |
| 03:19.00 | Rothgar | abd: 2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 03:19.00 | shadowkllr | ... |
| 03:19.04 | shadowkllr | so weird |
| 03:19.05 | jetscreamer | it's customizable,and optional |
| 03:19.15 | jetscreamer | 2-5 are identical by default |
| 03:19.17 | jetscreamer | in debian |
| 03:19.19 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr so what? Have you tried pinging that google ip? |
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| 03:19.55 | izua | hey. i have debian 5. i had some issues with X (videocard radeonX1300, i had to add driver "radeon" for it to work) |
| 03:19.58 | jetscreamer | oh and 2 is the default |
| 03:20.10 | izua | now I realised everything gfx intensive, screensaver, movies, flash is very unresponsive |
| 03:20.16 | adb | Rothgar: its a raid system |
| 03:20.22 | Rothgar | abd: Yes |
| 03:20.24 | izua | what should i do? |
| 03:20.26 | here4thegear | cool. so, when I type reboot at command line, it's really sending init[6] signal and performs those tasks? |
| 03:20.27 | Rothgar | Hardware RAID |
| 03:20.46 | Andy_IGN | here4thegear seems so ;) |
| 03:20.51 | Rothgar | It's a HP SmartArray 5i controller |
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| 03:21.16 | here4thegear | cool... |
| 03:21.19 | here4thegear | !startup |
| 03:21.19 | dpkg | well, init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc> <rc.local> <runlevel> |
| 03:21.37 | Rothgar | The drives are currently in /dev/cciss/* but fstab is using /dev/mapper |
| 03:21.40 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr: so once again - ping your gateway. |
| 03:23.12 | adb | Rothgar: so why not stay with 2.6.26 ? |
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| 03:23.45 | adb | as it boot , so may be ok |
| 03:24.03 | Rothgar | I'm getting errors when compiling VMware and people say it's either because the new kernel has been compiled without depreciated functions enabled or my kernel has mis-matched headers or similar since upgrading from Etch |
| 03:24.52 | adb | hmm. so i dunno , sry |
| 03:24.53 | pickcoder | it's "deprecated" not depreciated.. that's for property value adjustments over time |
| 03:25.02 | Andy_IGN | compiling in debian is easy way to headache |
| 03:25.10 | here4thegear | crap, in /etc/init.d I see stuff that I've actually uninstalled |
| 03:25.26 | pickcoder | here4thegear: you have to use the purge command to remove config files |
| 03:25.31 | Andy_IGN | here4thegear have you used remove? or purge... |
| 03:25.31 | Rothgar | Kernels were easy in FreeBSD :| |
| 03:25.38 | pickcoder | debian does not remove config files when you "remove" them |
| 03:25.40 | here4thegear | aptitude remove |
| 03:25.55 | Andy_IGN | try aptitude purge |
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| 03:26.01 | Andy_IGN | next time :] |
| 03:26.08 | victor_ | pc is not connected to internet before startup, now the wire is plugged in, what should be done to connect it to internet? |
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| 03:26.16 | pickcoder | kernels are no problem in Debian.. actually the make-kpkg makes it very easy to build, install, and remove kernels |
| 03:26.17 | here4thegear | right, cuz it'll throw an error if I do it now.. :D |
| 03:26.22 | victor_ | pc is not connected to internet before startup, now the wire is plugged in, what should be done to connect it to internet? |
| 03:26.56 | Rothgar | pickcoder: How so I had a few old kernels and I used apt-get remove the image names to remove them and they were at least removed from grub? |
| 03:27.45 | victor_ | sorry for repeating this, but I made a grammar mistake there: pc was not connected to internet before startup, now the wire is plugged in after startup, what should be done to connect it to internet? |
| 03:27.56 | adb | Rothgar: wmware client works well on .26 |
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| 03:28.11 | hentaiXP | um anyone know where zlib is located at in debian 5.0? |
| 03:28.23 | Rothgar | adb: I was using VMware Server 1.0.4 on Etch was working great I use rawDisk though |
| 03:28.23 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr: so? |
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| 03:28.49 | Rothgar | I upgraded the kernel to Lenny and VMware needed a re-install and 1.0.8 and 1.0.4 don't compile |
| 03:28.53 | here4thegear | so, I need to run this command at reboot. $ svnserve -d $ I can put this in a bash script chmod it to 775 in /etc/init.d and it should do the trick right? |
| 03:29.15 | Rothgar | I tried 2.0 and it compiled and installed but there is no rawDisk support so I have been trying to get 1.0.8 to install |
| 03:29.42 | Andy_IGN | victor_: same thing as.... nevermind |
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| 03:31.47 | adb | Rothgar: used etchnhalf.1 kernel ? |
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| 03:31.55 | Rothgar | ? |
| 03:32.03 | adb | on lenny i meants |
| 03:32.17 | adb | etchnhalf.1 is .24 |
| 03:32.24 | Rothgar | Nope |
| 03:32.31 | Rothgar | I tried 2.6.28 though |
| 03:32.35 | Rothgar | from kernel.org |
| 03:32.39 | adb | .18 was ok |
| 03:32.45 | Rothgar | it doesn't boot either |
| 03:32.45 | adb | ?? |
| 03:32.54 | adb | .18 ? |
| 03:32.54 | pickcoder | Rothgar: did you use the kernel package builder? |
| 03:32.59 | CoolCold | has installed 2.6.28.8 2 days ago, but on etch |
| 03:33.06 | Andy_IGN | grat |
| 03:33.08 | Rothgar | make-kpkg ? |
| 03:33.13 | pickcoder | yes |
| 03:33.16 | Rothgar | Yes |
| 03:33.24 | pickcoder | and you specified --initrd? |
| 03:33.28 | adb | CoolCold: and ? its ok ? |
| 03:33.49 | CoolCold | adb: not sure, made it boot machine and gone drinking ;) |
| 03:33.50 | Rothgar | Yeah I tried --initrd |
| 03:34.04 | adb | hehe |
| 03:34.11 | CoolCold | adb: will move server to DC and will see.. |
| 03:34.22 | pickcoder | here4thegear: put it in /etc/rc.local if you don't need start/stop control |
| 03:35.15 | Andy_IGN | coolcold: never dring when playing with such things as kernel, passwords, etc |
| 03:35.31 | adb | ladys ... |
| 03:35.37 | here4thegear | pickcoder: cool.. I guess I should also make it #!/bin/sh not #!/bin/bash or does that matter much? |
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| 03:36.24 | CoolCold | Andy_IGN: ? |
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| 03:36.30 | Andy_IGN | *drink |
| 03:36.42 | pickcoder | here4thegear: just put your statements in there and they'll be executed |
| 03:36.43 | CoolCold | ah.. |
| 03:36.51 | Andy_IGN | typos |
| 03:37.00 | CoolCold | i've _installed_ kernel and then gone drinking |
| 03:37.30 | here4thegear | pickcoder: ok, cools. thanks |
| 03:37.36 | CoolCold | so server is on on my office table now, waiting for monday |
| 03:37.57 | Andy_IGN | waiting for resuscitation? :] |
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| 03:39.36 | Andy_IGN | oops... a bit late there... 4:39am... so i'll finish some work and then i'll start to count some sheeps... |
| 03:40.11 | rexinw | hi all. is there a way to access NFS exported share from windows system/ |
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| 03:40.32 | Rothgar | See I get errors like this /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmx86.c:1899: warning: passing argument 4 of âDiv643264â from incompatible pointer type |
| 03:40.34 | adb | ask ##windows |
| 03:40.40 | shadowkllr | .... |
| 03:40.43 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.46 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr ? |
| 03:40.54 | Rothgar | Why does it have an â instead of a ' ? |
| 03:41.26 | Andy_IGN | isn't there an ´ ? |
| 03:41.29 | here4thegear | crap... please tell me that, by default that file is empty |
| 03:41.49 | here4thegear | I mean /etc/rc.local |
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| 03:42.05 | adb | yes |
| 03:42.18 | Andy_IGN | i have just exit 0 in there |
| 03:42.27 | shadowkllr | i don't know andy, i must be doing something severely wrong... |
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| 03:42.40 | adb | yes just exit 0 |
| 03:42.46 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr so ... have you tried again that ping gateway? |
| 03:42.47 | here4thegear | thank goodness, cuz I just did an mv my file to that location like a dummy.. lol |
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| 03:42.57 | here4thegear | is there a #! line at all? |
| 03:43.00 | Revenger | hi |
| 03:43.02 | Andy_IGN | here4thegear /dev/null ? |
| 03:43.12 | shadowkllr | yes and it was working fine |
| 03:43.17 | Andy_IGN | #!/bin/sh -e |
| 03:43.29 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr and google ping? That IP i gave you? |
| 03:43.35 | shadowkllr | no what was it again |
| 03:43.36 | here4thegear | Andy_IGN: thanks |
| 03:43.44 | Revenger | I'm looking for a tool to encrypt a password string to put its result in /etc/shadow |
| 03:43.54 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr 74.125.67.100 |
| 03:44.04 | Revenger | My /etc/shadow uses $6$ SHA2 |
| 03:44.17 | shadowkllr | ok? |
| 03:44.19 | Revenger | any idea? |
| 03:44.22 | shadowkllr | and it's working |
| 03:44.31 | adb | !encrypt |
| 03:44.37 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr ok. ping google.com |
| 03:44.51 | shadowkllr | ok |
| 03:44.52 | Revenger | adb ? |
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| 03:45.15 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr working? |
| 03:45.18 | shadowkllr | yes |
| 03:45.25 | Andy_IGN | well then WHAT is NOT working? |
| 03:46.04 | shadowkllr | .....i don't know, but it's still not giving me the static ip address i want, which is really weird that it's still connecting me |
| 03:46.13 | shadowkllr | at all |
| 03:46.15 | Andy_IGN | well... |
| 03:46.24 | Andy_IGN | what do you mean by "static ip" ? |
| 03:46.33 | shadowkllr | static internal ip address |
| 03:46.36 | shadowkllr | on my router |
| 03:46.38 | shadowkllr | erm |
| 03:46.42 | Andy_IGN | yes? |
| 03:47.12 | shadowkllr | ....i had it setup fine when i was running kubuntu, but i switched over to debian and there's no nice shiny gui =( |
| 03:47.14 | adb | Revenger: apt-cache search encrypt |grep passwd |
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| 03:47.27 | here4thegear | yes, it all works now... woot woot |
| 03:47.50 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr: oh man... what EXACTLY do you want to get ? |
| 03:48.49 | Andy_IGN | do you want to type a static ip for that machine? |
| 03:48.52 | Revenger | adb: thanks a lot for your help |
| 03:48.53 | adb | i bet want a fixed IP |
| 03:48.57 | comradekingu | shadowkllr: wrong network card? Dont know what your problem is, but i just fixed my problem of getting the wrong internal ip |
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| 03:49.13 | adb | Revenger: welcome |
| 03:49.16 | Andy_IGN | or do you want the router to assign you static ip based on mac-static ? |
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| 03:50.20 | shadowkllr | i want a static ip address for this computer, what's so hard to understand? dhcp assigns all the computers on my network as 10.0.1.XXX...i want to set mine to .149 because i have a ports forwarded on my router for this machine as it's going to be a lampp server |
| 03:50.32 | Andy_IGN | well |
| 03:50.47 | Andy_IGN | then tell the router to give you this ip based on static mac leasing |
| 03:50.52 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: your interfaces file is set that way |
| 03:51.09 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: ifconfig doesn't say it's correct? |
| 03:51.15 | shadowkllr | and i had no problem running my kubuntu box WITHOUT telling my router to set static based by mac |
| 03:51.21 | shadowkllr | for well over a year |
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| 03:51.49 | CoolCold | sun is rising and shining right into my eye ;) |
| 03:52.16 | adb | shadowkllr: use fixed address in dhcpd |
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| 03:53.06 | pickcoder | adb: that's not needed for a static IP and will just complicate matters |
| 03:53.07 | Andy_IGN | adb: thats what i'm telling him. but he don't want to use dhcp on that computer. |
| 03:53.20 | Andy_IGN | shadowkllr could you give us your netconf file again ? |
| 03:53.26 | shadowkllr | yes one sec |
| 03:53.38 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: pastebin the output of ifconfig too |
| 03:54.00 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:54.26 | Andy_IGN | yea, ifconfig ... |
| 03:54.39 | Andy_IGN | too late for me to think... |
| 03:56.51 | shadowkllr | http://pastebin.com/m26f046b4 for the /etc/network/interfaces and http://pastebin.com/m4ce7347d for the ifconfig |
| 03:57.07 | shadowkllr | also note, i have #allow-hotplug eth0 commented out because it was originally in the file |
| 03:57.21 | shadowkllr | but i've tried it every imaginable way |
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| 03:58.22 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: did you restart networking after that? |
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| 03:58.46 | Termz | this is so wack.. |
| 03:58.51 | Termz | a server with over 4000 channels |
| 03:58.57 | Andy_IGN | and? |
| 03:59.27 | Termz | and yet theres no excessive chat in any of them |
| 03:59.51 | Termz | sorry over 5000 channels |
| 04:00.07 | shadowkllr | :::rolls eyes::: no, but i asked it to make me a sandwich, and it didn't do it until i sudo told it to make me a sandwich |
| 04:00.26 | Termz | ..? |
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| 04:00.54 | shadowkllr | sorry, i'm frustrated, because it's just not making sense now, pick |
| 04:01.14 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: what does sudo have to do with this? |
| 04:01.37 | here4thegear | oh, I need to install java... is tomcat the only java server or are there others? |
| 04:01.40 | Andy_IGN | shadow: try reboot... |
| 04:01.47 | shadowkllr | ok, brb |
| 04:01.54 | pickcoder | shadowkllr: sounds like hotplug |
| 04:02.04 | Andy_IGN | its disabled in the conf |
| 04:02.08 | shadowkllr | pick, hotplug is commented out |
| 04:02.17 | pickcoder | you didn't restart your network services |
| 04:02.35 | shadowkllr | do you not grasp context at all, pick? that's what the "sudo" joke was about |
| 04:02.38 | pgs | try ifdown -v eth0m then ifup -v eth0 |
| 04:02.45 | pgs | and post the output |
| 04:02.45 | shadowkllr | i'll brb, gonna reboot |
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| 04:03.12 | Termz | pgs |
| 04:03.17 | Termz | are you java scripting? |
| 04:03.36 | pgs | no |
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| 04:04.14 | pickcoder | hmm.. where did I put my sense of humor... |
| 04:04.17 | here4thegear | Termz: were you talking to me? regarding my tomcat question |
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| 04:05.02 | Revenger | Does anyone know how write a script to change root password automatically |
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| 04:05.18 | pickcoder | Revenger: you can't |
| 04:05.21 | Revenger | i need to change root password of so many servers |
| 04:05.28 | Revenger | i want to automate it |
| 04:05.33 | pickcoder | you can't |
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| 04:05.49 | Revenger | why? I guess we can change /etc/shadow password field |
| 04:06.01 | Revenger | is that possible to do so |
| 04:06.18 | eaxxae | is it a good idea to block ALL ip traffic for a host you're just doing development on ? I keep getting all kinds of hack attempts ... my IP is static at home is there an easy way to block all traffic except for one ip ? |
| 04:06.31 | pickcoder | Revenger: sure |
| 04:06.54 | liable | Andy_IGN: yes, man sshd_config see allowed hosts |
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| 04:07.10 | liable | eaxxae: ^^ that was meant for you |
| 04:07.18 | Revenger | but i'm not sure how can we encrypt a new password string and put it in /etc/shadow |
| 04:07.22 | pickcoder | eaxxae: #iptables |
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| 04:07.40 | pickcoder | liable: that is only for inetd/xinetd services |
| 04:07.41 | Revenger | because password field in /etc/shadow also needs "salt" |
| 04:07.43 | eaxxae | liable: thanks |
| 04:07.56 | here4thegear | mmm, salt |
| 04:08.09 | liable | pickcoder: what do you mean? |
| 04:08.20 | Revenger | i'm new to linux btw |
| 04:08.25 | pickcoder | liable: the hosts allow thing in /etc/.. unless you're just talking about sshd |
| 04:09.45 | liable | pickcoder: ya, it was sshd specific, but looking in the manfile for sshd i dont see what i thought was there anyway.. |
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| 04:10.48 | shadowkllr | ok |
| 04:10.49 | shadowkllr | so |
| 04:10.53 | shadowkllr | that little experiment |
| 04:11.05 | shadowkllr | changed the ip address to .149 like i wanted |
| 04:11.15 | here4thegear | I've had a crap load of trouble with password stuff too... like, I have an svn server, and want to make it so that the users can log in to svn using their regular password (without having to retype their password in the svn plain text passwd file)... the svn folks never answered, so, I'm assuming there prolly isn't a way. It would be nice though, if developers would allow you to use just the 1 authorization. |
| 04:11.22 | shadowkllr | but for some reason, i couldn't get back online, so i had to comment all that stuff out and set it back to dhcp |
| 04:11.30 | shadowkllr | but i'll post you the pastebin |
| 04:11.33 | pickcoder | you'll need to update /etc/resolv.conf with your router's external DNS |
| 04:11.52 | shadowkllr | oh...hmm |
| 04:11.55 | pickcoder | dhcp fills it in for you so you will need to do it manually |
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| 04:12.27 | Revenger | if you want to change a password of a user without using "passwd" utility, what should you do ? |
| 04:12.28 | pickcoder | if you have any chroots running don't forget to update those copies too |
| 04:12.37 | Rusty1 | Revenger: perhaps http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Shadow-Password-HOWTO-1.html will be worth reading |
| 04:12.37 | pickcoder | Revenger: use LDAP |
| 04:13.09 | pickcoder | Revenger: and then you'll be keying in the new passwords one-by-one in a different screen |
| 04:13.44 | pickcoder | any tool that allows bulk changing of a root pass is a security hole |
| 04:14.30 | Revenger | pickcoder: i dont want to key it myself , I write a script and generate a random string -> and then encrypt it -> put it into /etc/shadow |
| 04:14.45 | Revenger | ok, what about changing password of normal use |
| 04:14.47 | Revenger | user |
| 04:14.54 | Revenger | without using "passwd" |
| 04:14.56 | eaxxae | I keep getting this error, anyone have any ideas ..manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct |
| 04:14.57 | rue_house | this is frustrating, if I compiled my own kernel, where do I get the kernal headers I need? |
| 04:15.08 | pickcoder | LDAP is about the only centralized way to manager usernames and passwords |
| 04:15.17 | pickcoder | there are other options but it's well supported in PAM |
| 04:15.24 | rue_house | hu.. I have them |
| 04:15.24 | pickcoder | s/manager/manage |
| 04:15.25 | rue_house | arg |
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| 04:16.12 | Revenger | pickcoder: for now, I just want to change password , say of a normal user in my system, without using "passwd username" |
| 04:16.15 | Revenger | can I do it? |
| 04:16.52 | pickcoder | Revenger: probably, but I've never found a decent way to do it |
| 04:17.07 | pickcoder | I guess that's because it's a security hole? |
| 04:17.13 | Revenger | does anyone have idea on this ? |
| 04:17.19 | Revenger | why is it a security hole? |
| 04:17.23 | pickcoder | look at the code for passwd? |
| 04:17.27 | here4thegear | eaxxae: when are you getting this error? boot up, logon, running a specific program? |
| 04:17.42 | pickcoder | Revenger: a way for someone to get access to all of your servers from a single break-in |
| 04:18.16 | Revenger | i'' do it by hand without writing a script |
| 04:18.20 | eaxxae | here4thegear, apt-get install <program> .. it's weird because I just restored my system to debian from ubuntu because it started giving me random errors like that |
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| 04:18.58 | [AndrewR] | backports down? |
| 04:19.07 | Revenger | eaxxae: i think you have to "apt-get update" first |
| 04:19.24 | pickcoder | [AndrewR]: appears so |
| 04:19.34 | here4thegear | !tell eaxxae why aptitude |
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| 04:20.01 | here4thegear | !tell eaxxae why aptitude |
| 04:20.13 | |davenull| | Hello, is there a reason that on etch, a password containing an @ would completely ignore anything after that? |
| 04:20.22 | eaxxae | wow.. cool |
| 04:20.42 | here4thegear | eaxxae: did it actually send that to you? it told me that I had the wrong target |
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| 04:21.01 | pickcoder | [AndrewR]: it's very slow loading |
| 04:21.12 | eaxxae | here: no.. but I just ran the command... it looks like midnight commander apt-get |
| 04:21.33 | here4thegear | yeah... apt-get install blah mc |
| 04:23.27 | here4thegear | disclaimer *blah* is not a real program (yet) |
| 04:24.12 | adb | yet...y |
| 04:24.14 | pickcoder | "moo" is more useful |
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| 04:25.06 | |davenull| | Well, I can confirm this issue is not present on Lenny, Gentoo, or Fedora. This is more than a mild security issue. |
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| 04:25.40 | pickcoder | |davenull|: how is it a security issue if the password is not accepted? |
| 04:25.47 | adb | pickcoder: "sl" too :) |
| 04:25.50 | pickcoder | (it sounds like a bad bug though) |
| 04:26.06 | ectospasm | hmmm... why is the grub configuration on lenny so complicated? I had to search through three different files, and then I had to run "update-grub" after I finally found what I was looking for... |
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| 04:26.19 | |davenull| | pickcoder: No, it *is* accepted, say my pass is test@hello, all I have to enter is test. |
| 04:26.25 | pickcoder | oooh |
| 04:26.28 | |davenull| | Yeah. |
| 04:26.35 | |davenull| | Little more serious. |
| 04:26.44 | ectospasm | It used to be you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or grub.conf, and that was it. Why the necessity for this overly complicated setup? |
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| 04:26.56 | pickcoder | I have some Etch machines still running. I'll check on it this week and see if I can replicate it |
| 04:27.07 | pickcoder | actually I can find out right now |
| 04:27.17 | |davenull| | pickcoder: Ok, just add an @ in the middle of a pass, and try to enter the first half. |
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| 04:27.57 | Andy_IGN | night folks... its 5:27am in here so its time to sleep |
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| 04:28.17 | here4thegear | lol night Andy_IGN and thanks for the help earlier |
| 04:28.25 | ectospasm | heh, that'll be about the time I go to bed. |
| 04:28.35 | Andy_IGN | here4thegear np |
| 04:28.37 | ectospasm | six hours from now. |
| 04:28.43 | wroank | help. /mnt is still holding the file system after i have dismounted as well as reset the system. |
| 04:28.53 | Andy_IGN | ectospasm well... i'm already in bed and i'm still working... |
| 04:28.57 | here4thegear | ectospasm: you're central time huh? |
| 04:29.04 | pickcoder | |davenull|: I have to key in the entire thing |
| 04:29.05 | ectospasm | here4thegear: yep |
| 04:29.16 | pickcoder | not a repeatable bug |
| 04:29.24 | |davenull| | pickcoder: What the hell? |
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| 04:29.35 | here4thegear | ectospasm: where you at? austin tx here |
| 04:29.40 | pickcoder | |davenull|: I'm on an amd64 box |
| 04:29.46 | |davenull| | Hmmm.... |
| 04:29.46 | ectospasm | here4thegear: huntsville, al |
| 04:29.46 | pickcoder | let me try an i386 |
| 04:29.52 | here4thegear | cool... |
| 04:30.05 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:30.09 | Andy_IGN | Ostrava, Czech Republic :-P |
| 04:30.12 | adb | i meant al |
| 04:30.19 | adb | [Mar 22 05:29:55] |
| 04:30.25 | wroank | many confederates here. |
| 04:30.29 | ectospasm | Yeah, Central time covers more land mass than any other time zone in the US |
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| 04:30.47 | here4thegear | LOL yeah it does |
| 04:30.59 | wroank | central time sucks, eastern time best. |
| 04:31.02 | ectospasm | ...but not population |
| 04:31.12 | ectospasm | wroank: you're wrong. |
| 04:31.13 | Andy_IGN | GMT rules ;) |
| 04:31.25 | Andy_IGN | and gmt +1 FTW |
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| 04:31.26 | wroank | ectospasm: on what? |
| 04:31.27 | here4thegear | LOL... |
| 04:31.45 | eaxxae | wtf is going on with all of these errors in aptitude/apt-get |
| 04:31.45 | pickcoder | nope.. same thing |
| 04:31.52 | pickcoder | shell access only, mind you |
| 04:31.55 | eaxxae | this is a fresh lenny 5.0 install |
| 04:31.57 | here4thegear | eaxxae: aptitude update |
| 04:31.59 | pickcoder | are you testing on the console? |
| 04:32.00 | ectospasm | You gotta stay up later to see all the broadcast shows. I mean, who wants to stay up past 11? Or what if you want to go out after all the primetime shows are done? |
| 04:32.06 | |davenull| | pickcoder: Ok, then I have something broken here. |
| 04:32.08 | Andy_IGN | should i add delete function today or tomorow... |
| 04:32.09 | ectospasm | Eastern Standard Tribe can suck it. |
| 04:32.24 | Andy_IGN | mmm.... |
| 04:32.33 | wroank | late-night shows are all porns. |
| 04:32.50 | ectospasm | wroank: I said primetime, not latenight |
| 04:32.52 | eaxxae | here4thegear, didnt help ... |
| 04:33.08 | Andy_IGN | nite pals |
| 04:33.14 | here4thegear | eaxxae: wow... you didn't edit your sources at all did you? |
| 04:33.20 | here4thegear | nite Andy_IGN |
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| 04:33.27 | eaxxae | here4thegear, why would I .. it's a fresh install |
| 04:33.42 | pickcoder | ectospasm: so get satellite or a cable package with east/west programming |
| 04:33.47 | here4thegear | eaxxae: IDK just makin sure |
| 04:33.51 | wroank | eastern standard time zone has all the advanced part of the USA. |
| 04:34.18 | ectospasm | pickcoder: that's not my problem. I was just saying that CST/CDT >> EST/EDT |
| 04:34.20 | eaxxae | here4thegear, nope.. fresh lenny install.. random errors even with updating.. ubuntu was doing the same thing before I nuked it off my server |
| 04:34.35 | ectospasm | eaxxae: possibly bad disk? |
| 04:34.46 | ectospasm | Now that two OSes have given problems. |
| 04:34.46 | wroank | central and mountain time zone have all the uncivilized part of the USA. |
| 04:34.55 | eaxxae | ectospasm, it's a VPS |
| 04:35.00 | pickcoder | ectospasm: and I'm sure the EDT time shift saved millions in energy as expected.. </sarcasm> |
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| 04:35.07 | ectospasm | wroank: you call the Eastern seaboard civilized? It contains Georgia! |
| 04:35.49 | wroank | At least this Georgia is not at war with Russia. |
| 04:35.58 | here4thegear | wroank: Central time is the bees knees. Try getting a decent gumbo in an eastern time zone |
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| 04:36.44 | here4thegear | of course, I do have to cross times zones to get a good Pizza |
| 04:36.45 | ectospasm | wait, don't use the term "bees knees" when you're describing how great something is... |
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| 04:37.28 | wroank | '/mnt' is still holding the file system after i have dismounted as well as reset the system. what's could be wrong? |
| 04:37.45 | ectospasm | wroank: is it listed in /etc/fstab? |
| 04:38.13 | adb | in /etc/mtab ? |
| 04:39.58 | wroank | not in any of the two. |
| 04:40.23 | adb | so system don't go down ? |
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| 04:41.28 | adb | apt-get install sl |
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| 04:41.29 | wroank | adb: don't get you. |
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| 04:41.55 | adb | system is still running ? |
| 04:42.13 | wroank | adb: system works find. |
| 04:43.07 | adb | " as well as reset the system" means ? |
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| 04:43.51 | wroank | adb: it means after i have re-start or power down and up the system. |
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| 04:44.59 | stdisease | Cam we upgrade to kde4 now, like the rest of the world? |
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| 04:47.19 | adb | wroank: i don't get you , is /mnt automatically mounted after reboot ? it is on a share /nfs ? |
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| 04:48.00 | stdisease | And while we're at it, use the unstable branch of Wine in sid? |
| 04:48.23 | here4thegear | hmm, I need to restrict permissions to a folder in a webpage. where do I do that? |
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| 04:49.10 | wroank | adb: i had mounted it once, to my backup harddisk. since then the fs remains mounted. how to know if it is on a share /nfs? |
| 04:49.57 | natsukao | how to setup the harddrive of 80 gb in the bios ? |
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| 04:51.00 | adb | df -h may said it |
| 04:51.00 | natsukao | it is not anymore to see the hard drive of 80 gb maxtor |
| 04:51.01 | here4thegear | can I do something in the virtual host to force authentication of dev.mysite.com |
| 04:52.27 | emila | Hi, I'm having problems with svn, I have a repository, and my own user is added to the group subversion, and it works fine. I added another user to my server, and added her to the subversion group, she can login via ssh, but when she tries to access the svn repo, it tells her "/var/svn-repos/project/db/current : Access Denied", please hint me :) |
| 04:54.00 | adb | wroank: i thought you made a fault mount , in /mnt , making a backup directory on main harddisk instead on an -external-backup harddisk |
| 04:54.46 | emila | Oh, sorry, I found out, it was owned by the wrong user |
| 04:56.13 | emila | hmm, each time I upload something, db/current is overwritten and owened by my user... |
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| 04:56.51 | here4thegear | emila: are you actually putting items in db/current? |
| 04:56.52 | Blime | in the debian 5 expert installer, what is the difference in linux-image-2.6-686 and linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 04:57.27 | emila | nop, but i commited, and the it changed |
| 04:57.35 | stew | Blime: -2.6-686 is a 'metapackage' which just depends on "what is the latest kernel', which for now is 2.6.26-1-686, so for now it doesn't matter |
| 04:57.49 | stew | Blime: when it will matter is when a newer kernel is released |
| 04:58.01 | Blime | so 2.6-686 would use any newer kernel packages, if they actually existed? |
| 04:58.24 | Blime | ah okay, thank you stew!!! |
| 04:58.37 | stew | Blime: if you install 2.6-686 you will be upgraded when the newer kernel comes out if you dist-upgrade/full-upgrade. if you install 2.6.26-1-686 now, you'll stick with 2.6.26-1 if a new kernel is later release (which you can upgrade to by installing it explicitly) |
| 04:59.02 | here4thegear | emila: when you do an svn checkout, the place that you check it out to will be owned by whoever did the checkout... when you commit the items there should be no issues. anyone running an svn update (or a checkout even) will again have the permissions set to their user. |
| 04:59.16 | Blime | stew: i understand, thanks! |
| 04:59.22 | stew | you're welcome |
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| 04:59.55 | adb | apt-cache show linux-image-2.6-686 |
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| 05:01.51 | kalidar | hey |
| 05:01.55 | kalidar | anyone kickin around? |
| 05:02.45 | emila | here4thegear, the problem is that the file changes ownership on the server, I don |
| 05:02.49 | emila | 't understand that |
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| 05:06.45 | here4thegear | emila: you mean the file in /var/svn/repo/db/ called current? (is this the only file that is changing permissions)? |
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| 05:07.28 | natsukao | i got this hard drive maxtor diamondmax 10 6l080l0 80gb pata 133 |
| 05:07.43 | natsukao | the bios does not see anymore the hdd |
| 05:07.51 | natsukao | how to do ? |
| 05:08.08 | natsukao | what to do ? |
| 05:08.09 | emila | here4thegear, yes, I found out that it's because, when using svn+ssh, the gid bits have to be set correctly on the dirs, or something like that |
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| 05:08.28 | here4thegear | ah, ok, I didn't know you were using svn+ssh |
| 05:08.53 | natsukao | can you help me ? |
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| 05:10.54 | Piet | nataku: you say th bios does not recognize the drive anymore. does that mean it has recognized it before? |
| 05:11.10 | adb | natsukao: and that, after changed the BIOS to Default ? |
| 05:11.22 | Piet | nataku: if so, did you change any bios settings in between? |
| 05:11.47 | Piet | oops, natsukao that is sorry |
| 05:12.25 | natsukao | yes after changed the bios to default |
| 05:12.38 | natsukao | now i can't use anymore the hdd |
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| 05:13.06 | natsukao | what means ? |
| 05:13.28 | natsukao | that i must to buy a new mainboard and hdd ? |
| 05:13.51 | Piet | natsukao: so it worked before you changed ti to defaults, or did you change it to defaults becuase it did no longer work?, but it used to work before that with non-default bios settings? |
| 05:14.28 | natsukao | because packages was corrupt |
| 05:14.55 | natsukao | and here in #debian said me to change default bios for hdd |
| 05:15.19 | natsukao | i did and now nothing happen anymore !!! the bios does not see anymore the hdd |
| 05:16.20 | Piet | are oyu saying someone told you to change the bios settings to default because you had corrupted package installations? |
| 05:16.42 | natsukao | yes is true |
| 05:16.58 | natsukao | you can see the log of #debian |
| 05:17.30 | Piet | dunno if that's public |
| 05:18.01 | Piet | anyway, i think we just need to find out how your bios settings need to be set |
| 05:18.10 | Piet | and then it should work again |
| 05:18.27 | Piet | what's your motherboard? |
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| 05:19.32 | natsukao | ga 8srx gigabyte |
| 05:20.00 | natsukao | you can contact me to ninuxpdb@gmail.com |
| 05:20.09 | natsukao | i have not sleep all the night |
| 05:20.23 | natsukao | i am sleeping |
| 05:20.36 | natsukao | behind the laptop |
| 05:21.22 | natsukao | the hard drive is a maxtor diamondmax 10 6l080l0 80gb pata 133 |
| 05:21.57 | Piet | just come around again tomorrow then |
| 05:22.11 | natsukao | so Piet if you want and if you can help me as any other person, i am very happy, why the pc is of my cousin |
| 05:22.55 | natsukao | tomorrow i can't why i am in an other part of Tuscany |
| 05:23.20 | natsukao | i go to sleep |
| 05:27.16 | Piet | natsukao: download this first of all tomorrow, it can help you diagnosing whether the drive is physically damaged: http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=MaxBlast_5&vgnextoid=7add8b9c4a8ff010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD |
| 05:28.08 | simonrvn | Piet: not quite that, i think natsukao might be misremembering part of it. the person was trying to debug a hardware issue natsukao had.... |
| 05:28.22 | simonrvn | i have the lastlog in my clipboard, pastebinning |
| 05:29.21 | Piet | natsukao: note down this above url and the url simonrvn will be pasting here shortly |
| 05:29.25 | simonrvn | http://paste.debian.net/31151/ |
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| 05:33.06 | Piet | thanks simonrvn |
| 05:33.34 | Piet | apparently you did not get to see what i said before this, correct? <Piet> oops, natsukao that is sorry |
| 05:34.04 | Piet | that is strange if so. |
| 05:34.35 | Piet | or maybe you just cut it out since it seemed unrelated |
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| 05:35.22 | Piet | natsukao's english is a bit difficult to understand. |
| 05:37.02 | zhanxuw | Hey,someone can tell me where to find the kernel compiling log file |
| 05:37.39 | simonrvn | i just did a /lastlog natsukao |
| 05:37.53 | simonrvn | so no, it didn't get it all |
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| 05:38.47 | Piet | doh, i never knew that command :) |
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| 05:39.00 | izua | hey, I'm new to debian and linux in general. |
| 05:39.15 | Piet | has been using irc for about 8 years |
| 05:39.21 | izua | i noticed there's Kwallet - the concept seems pretty handy |
| 05:39.26 | izua | is it.. safe though? |
| 05:39.59 | izua | sure, I wouldn't put my paypal/banking info there, but can anyone who grabs a copy of my wallet easily decode the passwords? |
| 05:40.01 | simonrvn | it's encrypted and hashed, so yeh. |
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| 05:40.17 | simonrvn | they have have to open it first. |
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| 05:40.22 | simonrvn | would have* |
| 05:40.29 | izua | ah, but of course |
| 05:40.42 | izua | but encryption is breakable, there's no such thing as the perfect cipher, now is it? |
| 05:40.55 | izua | anyway.. |
| 05:40.57 | simonrvn | it's hashed... it's one way. |
| 05:41.05 | izua | it's hashed too? |
| 05:41.12 | izua | uuuh.. that explains the next thing |
| 05:41.14 | simonrvn | they would have to have the key, so use a very strong password. |
| 05:41.19 | izua | how do I get data out of it? |
| 05:41.40 | izua | i've saved some form data from konqueror, it appears there (although, the html input names appear, instead of the actual data) |
| 05:41.45 | simonrvn | run it, see what happens. |
| 05:41.55 | izua | now.. how do I put it back from the wallet it, without typing it? :D |
| 05:42.12 | simonrvn | what? |
| 05:42.31 | izua | i assume that's what kwallet does |
| 05:42.44 | izua | manages all my passwords under a single, master password |
| 05:44.13 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 05:44.25 | simonrvn | it has a help... |
| 05:46.12 | Piet | if all the passwords kwallet stores are only stored as hashed as I think simonrvn says, then there is no way you can retrieve the data you entered from the wallet. but that would not make much sense since this would not allow it to reenter the form data in html forms when you revisit them (if that is kwallets purpose - I just don'T know this application). |
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| 05:46.38 | izua | well.. yeah :) that's what I'm trying to udnerstand, too |
| 05:46.47 | Piet | the master password is probably only stored as a hash, though |
| 05:46.48 | izua | if it hashes everything, then it can't restore it |
| 05:47.09 | Piet | right. i suppose it encrypts the passwords it stores |
| 05:47.20 | izua | *still figuring out how to make konqueror get passwords from kwallet* |
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| 05:48.08 | Piet | dunno, i'm not into kde, but i imagine that can be deeply integrated |
| 05:48.20 | Piet | konqueror is not your ideal browser when it comes to security, though |
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| 05:48.47 | izua | ah well.. i assume firefox/iceweasel can't support this |
| 05:49.32 | Piet | i _guess_ not. it has its own embedded password manager |
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| 05:50.23 | AussieGuy | whats the program you run to find out which application is using which port? my apache cant bind to port 80 |
| 05:50.27 | simonrvn | when it sees a password form input, it'll call it |
| 05:50.35 | simonrvn | AussieGuy: netstat |
| 05:50.58 | AussieGuy | netstat -p --all is showing me that something is using www without mentioning the PID |
| 05:51.06 | izua | well, it doesn't. |
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| 05:51.15 | izua | I can copy-paste it, though. |
| 05:52.08 | Piet | AussieGuy: try lsof |
| 05:52.39 | Piet | lsof -i :80 |
| 05:53.43 | AussieGuy | lsof -i :80 shows nothing. apache still complains the port is in use though |
| 05:54.00 | AussieGuy | Im aware its a transmission process but theres 30 of them, one is particularly important though so I want to know its pid |
| 05:54.07 | AussieGuy | or at least thats my suspicion |
| 05:54.44 | Piet | what's a "transmission process"? |
| 05:55.01 | AussieGuy | bittorrent client. |
| 05:55.10 | AussieGuy | ive got 40 torrents seeding |
| 05:55.17 | AussieGuy | but I want to know which one is using port 80 |
| 05:56.35 | Piet | can you actually setup a tcp connection to that port? |
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| 05:57.05 | AussieGuy | apparently....killall -9 transmissioncli fixed the problem |
| 05:57.08 | Piet | it would be uncommon to have bittorrent transfer data on port 80 |
| 05:57.14 | AussieGuy | its running under www-data credentials though |
| 05:57.38 | Piet | it usually uses high ports for the perr-to-peer stuff |
| 05:57.47 | Piet | maybe some web interface |
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| 06:08.34 | KC | how do i launch a java app from the console? |
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| 06:10.35 | hoxu | KC, man java :) |
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| 06:11.27 | KC | No manual entry for java |
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| 06:13.27 | hoxu | KC, uh, do you have the executable itself? What does "which java" say? |
| 06:13.47 | KC | /usr/bin/java |
| 06:16.11 | hoxu | KC, meh, "java <class>" or "java -jar <jar>" then |
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| 06:42.39 | izua | where can i read more aobut the linux filesystem? |
| 06:42.51 | izua | i'm not really grasping the mounting concepts |
| 06:43.50 | doleyb | izua: Maybe you like this general tutorial http://www.tuxradar.com/content/take-linux-filesystem-tour |
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| 06:58.14 | foo-nix | Is there a bug in the git package? I.e. I installed git using apt-get, still bash returns "command not found" uppon calling git. |
| 06:59.31 | izua | why is there a /root and not /home/root ? |
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| 07:00.06 | foo-nix | My applogies, I had the wrong pacge, I needed to install git-core |
| 07:00.20 | foo-nix | izua: since root is a superuser. |
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| 07:00.42 | foo-nix | izua: I think there areno design implications here |
| 07:00.44 | izua | that doesn't make a lot of sense |
| 07:00.48 | foo-nix | but ~root generally is /root |
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| 07:01.05 | izua | oh, so it was just picked at random? |
| 07:01.19 | foo-nix | izua: I dont think distro's like this exist, but one can always change the homedir of root to whatever. |
| 07:01.25 | DavidProck1981 | http://www.cellstores.com/autocontent.aspx?pageid=1907&referringdomain=fortune&Eid=5526541 |
| 07:01.25 | DavidProck1981 | And if you deside to call you will need to give them my Rep. ID # 5526541 |
| 07:01.29 | foo-nix | infact, one can do this for each user. |
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| 07:03.53 | foo-nix | izua: if you are searching for a generic way to get the user dir of someone given the username, you can use ~username |
| 07:04.15 | izua | neah, i'm just new to linux and i'm trying to figure out stuff |
| 07:04.26 | foo-nix | kk |
| 07:04.28 | foo-nix | enjoy |
| 07:04.33 | izua | well, i've used slackware a couple times before, but nothing serious |
| 07:04.35 | Arrowmaster | foo-nix: git or git-core? |
| 07:04.55 | Arrowmaster | oh nvm see you already answers your own question |
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| 07:06.13 | foo-nix | Arrowmaster: thank you, like I said, I already found out I needed git-core :) |
| 07:06.31 | foo-nix | Arrowmaster: still, my apreciations. |
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| 07:09.53 | Arrowmaster | fyi i tend to pull git-core from unstable or experimental, although testing actually has an extremely recent version for once but in the past it was out of date quite often |
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| 07:16.57 | neoice | ah crap. I've read about it a bunch, but I cant recall anything. isnt there a way to view a file you've jused rm'd? |
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| 07:20.10 | hoxu | !tell neoice about undelete |
| 07:21.13 | foo-nix | Arrowmaster: (not to bash debian), but in general debian tends to have a lot of packages for a lot of architectures with the downside that they are often out of date? |
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| 07:23.55 | foo-nix | !undelete |
| 07:23.55 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
| 07:24.00 | Arrowmaster | foo-nix: well im not quite sure but the hold up might have been that testing was frozen for the lenny release at the time, but with the stable branch yes things will be out of date, like i dont expect to see git 1.6 in lenny |
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| 07:25.43 | foo-nix | Arrowmaster: well, I'm from gentoo, so I rather much enjoy the 'apt-get install something' -- a few moments later -- root@fluffybox ~ # |
| 07:25.51 | foo-nix | out of date or not. |
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| 07:29.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah i prefer apt-git (or aptitude) to compiling, but it does help to keep an eye on what versions of stuff are available in each branch |
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| 07:31.12 | foo-nix | Arrowmaster: well, the speed of ones computer increases tremendously when compiled. |
| 07:31.36 | foo-nix | but maybe just compiling the kernel helps a lot also. |
| 07:33.10 | foo-nix | and using minimalistinc window managers. |
| 07:33.17 | foo-nix | *minimalistic |
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| 07:44.04 | KC | where would be a good place to ask for help on egrep? |
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| 08:24.30 | enouf | !info apt-show-versions |
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| 08:24.51 | dpkg | apt-show-versions: (lists available package versions with distribution), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.15 (sid), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 184 kB |
| 08:25.13 | enouf | KC: well, bash/shell users would know ;-) it's just grep -E |
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| 08:29.50 | codestr0m | where can I find the debian deb dependency string format defined.. |
| 08:30.05 | achilles | hello, I have a bridge interface br0, I assigned an IP address to it and it's fine, I can access the server from this IP, but once I get in (ssh), no ping to anywhere could be, any help ? |
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| 08:31.14 | codestr0m | I'm also looking for any tools written in python which can make or handle debs |
| 08:34.08 | simonrvn | you won't have much choice there, the tools are written in whatever language people wrote them... |
| 08:34.34 | blubberdiblub | codestr0m, for the latter, have a look at package python-apt |
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| 08:35.12 | codestr0m | simonrvn: there should be some tools around.. and where is the deb string exactly defined.. which manual or dev guide |
| 08:35.21 | codestr0m | is there a standard unit test for it. etc |
| 08:35.25 | codestr0m | blubberdiblub: thanks |
| 08:35.41 | simonrvn | !nmg |
| 08:35.41 | dpkg | well, nmg is Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/ or ask me about <package basics>, <mentors> and <mg> |
| 08:36.18 | enouf | !policy |
| 08:36.18 | dpkg | somebody said policy was available at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ - the manual that describes how debian packages should and must interact with the debian system. see best practices, or those who fail to understand Debian Policy are doomed to reimplement it, poorly. |
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| 08:36.35 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache show devscripts |
| 08:36.42 | simonrvn | like debhelper is written in perl, so is debuild, dch is also perl... some stuff in python, but a lot is in perl or shell. |
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| 08:37.18 | simonrvn | or sometimes make, like most of the cdbs stuff |
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| 08:47.08 | Stanlin | hello! help! |
| 08:47.15 | Stanlin | what is the last debian netinstall available? |
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| 08:48.26 | Stanlin | Debian 5? |
| 08:48.50 | simonrvn | yes.. |
| 08:48.56 | at0m|c | what does www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ say? |
| 08:49.12 | simonrvn | and the fricking /topic |
| 08:49.17 | codestr0m | (more stupid questions. please forgive) when I build a bunch of dpkgs.. where is the package authority format defined and which tools normally handle the creation of the authority cache |
| 08:49.42 | rexinw | dpkg google |
| 08:49.43 | dpkg | somebody said google was a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. It's website can be found at http://www.google.com |
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| 08:51.30 | simonrvn | codestr0m: what are you talking about? |
| 08:51.30 | Stanlin | Thanks, just asking because the netinstalls were always outdated |
| 08:51.30 | simonrvn | codestr0m: don't invent terms, it confuses things... |
| 08:51.31 | simonrvn | Stanlin: o_O |
| 08:52.47 | codestr0m | simonrvn: sorry. I'm doing my best since I'm very unfamiliar with debian and trying to get the package specs (I think I found those), the repo layout specs (how directory structure should be) and any tools which work with the repo to create a "cache" for tools like aptitude to use |
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| 08:54.04 | Rothgar | Is there an easy way to find the SCSI ID etc of a device? |
| 08:55.08 | simonrvn | codestr0m: ok, so you mean what by what, then? mind telling me? ;) |
| 08:55.40 | codestr0m | I think it's funny the example from http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-namever is making a gentoo package ;) "dh_make -e your.maintainer@address -f ../gentoo-0.9.12.tar.gz " |
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| 08:55.57 | codestr0m | simonrvn: is what I said not clear? |
| 08:56.05 | codestr0m | which part should I clarify? |
| 08:57.07 | simonrvn | what you mean by "authority cache" and "authority format" |
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| 08:57.19 | Stanlin | wget http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/pxelinux.0 |
| 08:57.40 | Stanlin | ^^^^ that corresponds to the version 5? |
| 08:58.07 | simonrvn | Rothgar: there used to be ... check in /sys, probably still exists a facility to do that |
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| 08:58.18 | simonrvn | etch is oldstable... |
| 08:59.08 | Stanlin | ouch... |
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| 08:59.46 | ivan___ | hi all |
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| 09:00.26 | codestr0m | simonrvn: I think I'm asking which tool takes all the dpkgs and builds/maintains http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 |
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| 09:01.27 | Stanlin | http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian5.0/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux |
| 09:01.33 | Stanlin | that should work.. i guess |
| 09:01.43 | ivan___ | in my box 2 normal users, how do i disable access to internet for any one? |
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| 09:03.44 | simonrvn | codestr0m: a number generate that. apt-cache search is your friend |
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| 09:04.01 | codestr0m | simonrvn: that's a tool on the server? |
| 09:04.18 | simonrvn | on your machine |
| 09:04.36 | codestr0m | simonrvn: right.. I'm asking about the server side tool which generates that |
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| 09:22.38 | codestr0m | simonrvn: I think the answer to my question was dpkg-scanpackages pool override /usr/local/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages |
| 09:23.51 | codestr0m | now I need to find the source repo for that |
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| 09:27.15 | kamp2tux | prior installing a package, I must have libc.so.6 --> anybody can assist me what is it? i could find it in my repo list. |
| 09:27.37 | kamp2tux | *could NOT find it in my repo list. |
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| 09:31.14 | Saviq | guys, any idea why binding to 0.0.0.0 doesn't bind to interface lo? |
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| 09:35.49 | hoxu | Saviq, you don't bind sockets to interfaces, you bind them to IPs, no? |
| 09:36.04 | hoxu | Saviq, what's your actual problem? |
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| 09:36.21 | Saviq | hoxu: services try to bind to all ips |
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| 09:36.35 | Saviq | but only bind to external ip |
| 09:36.37 | p_xr__ | h |
| 09:36.49 | Saviq | and it causes me some trouble... |
| 09:37.39 | Saviq | as I can't explicitly tell some of them to listen on localhost where some other look for them |
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| 09:38.05 | hoxu | Saviq, what service are we speaking of? Tried specifying 127.0.0.1 as listening address? |
| 09:38.35 | Saviq | hoxu: we're talking epmd - a daemon that's used by erlang (ejabberd) |
| 09:39.13 | Saviq | and I can't seem to be able to specify a listening address - it's expected to listen on all interfaces and that's it :/ |
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| 09:42.20 | mad_muppet | I have just installed iceweasel default-jre and flash but iceweasel cuts out on me .. can someone point me where to look to find answers? thanks |
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| 09:42.41 | hoxu | Saviq, similar issues at http://www.ejabberd.im/node/1272 ... looks like it's still unresolved (eg. bug the author:) |
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| 09:45.06 | Saviq | hoxu: well that's one thing, but why would services that're trying to bind all ips only bind to the external one? |
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| 09:46.17 | hoxu | Saviq, hum, can you pastebin "ip addr show lo" and "netstat -nlpt |grep epmd" output? |
| 09:47.23 | xingu | Saviq: http://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-patches/2008-January/000214.html |
| 09:47.49 | xingu | Saviq: alternatively set your system hostname to resolve as something in 127/8 network. |
| 09:48.10 | xingu | Saviq: there will be side-effects from the latter, think it through. |
| 09:48.20 | Saviq | hoxu: http://pastebin.com/d55398a25 |
| 09:49.44 | Saviq | xingu: my problem is actually that epmd _won't_ bind to 127.0.0.1 but external IP instead |
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| 09:50.31 | slackbr | Packages from etch can be used with jigdo when I'am downloading lenny ? |
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| 09:53.06 | Selveste1 | !xen |
| 09:53.07 | dpkg | well, xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). Xen achieves high performance virtualisation without special hardware support. For detailed help, ask in #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net or see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
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| 09:57.09 | maxagaz | how to desactive shortcuts like Alt-F2 or Ctrl+Alt+F2 ? |
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| 09:58.19 | streuner_ | Isnt that a DE or WM issue? |
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| 09:58.47 | streuner_ | Argus1: #knoppix |
| 09:58.51 | blackgra1 | lol |
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| 10:00.17 | xingu | Saviq: what does net_adm:localhost() return from erlang console? |
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| 10:00.53 | Saviq | xingu: nothing |
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| 10:01.18 | Saviq | hmm I've an idea |
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| 10:01.29 | asdzxc | hi |
| 10:02.12 | asdzxc | i can see 'physical id' in /proc/cpuinfo for each core |
| 10:02.26 | asdzxc | i have 8 cores and phy. ids are 0 and 1 |
| 10:02.41 | asdzxc | how do i know which physical procesor has ID 0 and which has ID 1 ? |
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| 10:03.12 | asdzxc | i have HW problems with processor 1 and i need to know which one is it |
| 10:03.49 | hoxu | asdzxc, maybe ##hardware knows |
| 10:03.57 | cahoot | asdzxc: dmidecode doesn't lead further? |
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| 10:04.49 | pertain | asdzxc: in some cases mcelog helps |
| 10:05.39 | pertain | asdzxc: does dmesg say something about logged machine check events/exceptions? |
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| 10:05.46 | Saviq | xingu, hoxu: no wonder I'm having problems - 'host localhost' returns 'not found'... (it's there in /etc/hosts but it doesn't seem to care...) |
| 10:06.00 | asdzxc | pertain yes, i have mcelog messages |
| 10:06.16 | asdzxc | pertain they are saying about problems on cores 2 3 6 7 |
| 10:06.32 | asdzxc | pertain wihch are on processor 1 (from cpuinfo) |
| 10:06.33 | pertain | asdzxc: give the tool mcelog a shot |
| 10:06.41 | asdzxc | pertain but now i need to know which physical processor is 1 |
| 10:06.45 | asdzxc | so i can remove it |
| 10:06.50 | xingu | Saviq: "host" is obsolete and also a dns (rather than nss) client |
| 10:07.16 | Saviq | xingu: 'stood |
| 10:07.28 | xingu | Saviq: "getent hosts localhost" is probably what you meant, but perhaps erlang also is a dns client |
| 10:07.50 | pertain | asdzxc: I assume that it's the same numbering as on the motherboard. |
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| 10:08.28 | asdzxc | pertain do you think that first installed processor _must_ by 0 and second _must_ be 1 ? |
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| 10:08.43 | asdzxc | if so, then i know which is 1 cos i was installing it month ago |
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| 10:09.10 | pertain | asdzxc: it would make sense but I don't know for sure. |
| 10:09.15 | Saviq | btw xingu I don't have 'net_adm' |
| 10:09.23 | kusum | any mentors here? |
| 10:09.46 | kusum | i'm using irc for the first time |
| 10:09.53 | streuner_ | kusum: /msg dpkg ask |
| 10:09.59 | streuner_ | kusum: /msg dpkg mentors |
| 10:10.03 | kusum | do i have to register my nick |
| 10:10.07 | kusum | ? |
| 10:10.14 | streuner_ | it wouldnt hurd ;-) |
| 10:10.32 | streuner_ | kusum: /msg nickserv help |
| 10:10.33 | kusum | i can still continue as a normal user rite? |
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| 10:11.07 | streuner_ | there are some restrictions if you arent registered, but usually you can talk :-) |
| 10:11.09 | kusum | streuner thanks a lot |
| 10:11.16 | streuner_ | no problem |
| 10:11.46 | at0m|c | streuner_: unregistered nicks cannot /msg |
| 10:12.21 | streuner_ | at0m|c: sure |
| 10:12.24 | at0m|c | so if "usually" means in a channel, then that's right |
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| 10:14.26 | dom38 | hi |
| 10:16.37 | themill | You can talk to dpkg in #debian-bots |
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| 10:19.45 | Bryan92 | i have file with 2000 lines |
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| 10:19.51 | Bryan92 | can anyone tell me how i see how many start with 9 ? |
| 10:20.30 | Lagbolt | Bryan92, try this i think . . . cat filename | grep ^9 | wc -l |
| 10:20.33 | pertain | grep -c ^9 file |
| 10:20.41 | Lagbolt | ah -c!! right |
| 10:21.04 | xingu | !uuoc |
| 10:21.04 | dpkg | UUOC is the Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 10:21.10 | Bryan92 | thx |
| 10:21.25 | simonrvn | !uuoc Lagbolt |
| 10:21.25 | dpkg | hands Lagbolt the "unnecessary use of cat" award |
| 10:21.46 | simonrvn | xingu: heh, didn't see yours |
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| 10:22.04 | Lagbolt | simonrvn, long as it works :) |
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| 10:22.17 | cahoot | unnecessary use of dpkg ? |
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| 10:22.41 | at0m|c | sometimes cat'ing inserts some command and sends stuff to bash, which is pretty annoying |
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| 10:22.55 | at0m|c | have to exit the shell and restart it eh |
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| 10:23.24 | at0m|c | (all chars suddenly look near random then) |
| 10:23.42 | simonrvn | you mean control characters screwing up your terminal? try 'reset' next time. |
| 10:23.44 | Eulex | at0m|c, or just run reset |
| 10:23.59 | at0m|c | oki cheers, will try that! |
| 10:24.15 | nayx | love to cat binaries as well, yeah reset works quite well in such a case |
| 10:24.38 | simonrvn | try strings, or cat -v or od -g or less -r |
| 10:24.42 | Eulex | Rothgar, did you get your kernel problem solved? I just managed to answer a 9h old question of you, before my irc client had reconnected ^^ |
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| 10:25.19 | cammoblammo | Does anyone know of any CLI app in Debian that can return the mean BPM of a music file? |
| 10:26.17 | xingu | simonrvn: I prefer echo ^v^[c |
| 10:26.24 | at0m|c | cammoblammo: google "bpm detection linux" |
| 10:26.27 | noizze | cammoblammo: u mean analyze mp3, wav files and output BPM? |
| 10:26.30 | nayx | cammoblammo: no way! unless you have set the id3tag for bpm (TBPM) |
| 10:26.30 | at0m|c | there's a couple |
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| 10:26.57 | xingu | simonrvn: ... but then again I was born with a spoonful of vt100 escapes in /my/ mouth... :) |
| 10:27.00 | noizze | cammoblammo: there are many who works with mouse clicks :) |
| 10:27.15 | simonrvn | HEH |
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| 10:27.52 | cammoblammo | at0m|c: Thanks, I haven't tried the word 'detection' yet, so I'll see what happens. |
| 10:27.59 | cammoblammo | noizze: Yes. |
| 10:27.59 | at0m|c | nayx: no need to set that tag, there;s some algo's doing it automatically (see the plugin in Amarok, bpm detect, bpmdj,..) |
| 10:28.23 | cammoblammo | nayx: I want a way to fill in that tag sort of automatically in a batch script. |
| 10:28.28 | Eulex | bpm detection is evil |
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| 10:28.41 | nayx | cammoblammo: bpm-dj, old outdated and not really precise |
| 10:28.47 | simonrvn | xingu: ^[c esc-c? for some reason i can't remember anything (maybe 'cause i should be sleeping right now, heh) |
| 10:28.52 | noizze | mmhhhhh, i like to upgrade my VPS with debian 5 but i'm scared because I have only a remote shell. Its not recommend with ssh, right? |
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| 10:30.07 | cammoblammo | nayx: Precise isn't necessary---my end goal is to be able to trivially find songs that are within a range of tempos. |
| 10:30.09 | simonrvn | noizze: well, if you have to reboot due to a kernel upgrade, i wouldn't do it, otherwise it's usually ok. |
| 10:30.24 | asdzxc | does anyone understand the mcelogs ? |
| 10:30.28 | asdzxc | http://www.pastebin.sk/sk/12514/ |
| 10:30.31 | nayx | cammoblammo: http://bpmdj.yellowcouch.org try this then |
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| 10:31.16 | cammoblammo | nayx: Thanks, will do. |
| 10:31.49 | noizze | simonrvn: good question, i think can not change my kernel on my vps becoz its very customized from hosting company. I will ask support |
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| 10:37.00 | pertain_ | asdzxc: Defect CPU or RAM or northbridge. Contact your hardware vendor and/or the lkml. |
| 10:37.31 | shad0w | hi everyone |
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| 10:40.26 | shad0w | i have a probliem with grub and lilo bootloader on my laptop.They take 1minute to load the kernel...The only one is working right is windows bootloader |
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| 10:47.58 | Gast_102_ | http://change.pennergame.de/change_please/8610636/ |
| 10:48.15 | themill | !ops Gast_102_ wants educating |
| 10:48.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: themill complains about: Gast_102_ wants educating |
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| 10:50.42 | assid_ | heya |
| 10:50.55 | xingu | simonrvn: yes, esc-c; resets the state machine. |
| 10:51.02 | assid_ | i got access to a box, which has etch on it.. so i updated sources.list on it to have stable instead of etch |
| 10:51.34 | assid_ | and now its giving me there is no public key available for the following keys |
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| 10:52.32 | tarnap | where can i configure "ps" ? |
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| 10:52.44 | tarnap | i want ps aux to show only users processes |
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| 10:53.25 | ham5 | ps --help |
| 10:53.32 | maxagaz | how to disable some keys of the keyboard ? |
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| 10:53.39 | frog_ | hi,the error amount by dd_rescue, is it the amount of bytes, sectors or of what? |
| 10:53.40 | maxagaz | (from root) |
| 10:53.53 | tarnap | i mean, how can i configure it so that any user running ps aux just gets his own processes |
| 10:54.06 | simonrvn | tarnap: it's not configurable |
| 10:54.08 | maxagaz | for example, how to diable Alt and Ctrl ? |
| 10:54.10 | ham5 | xsesion I guess as an alias |
| 10:54.27 | simonrvn | maxagaz: why? |
| 10:54.49 | pertain | !tell assid_ about etch->lenny key |
| 10:54.55 | maxagaz | simonrvn, to unable users to do some stuffs with the computer |
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| 10:55.16 | nayx | tarnap: use output formatting and let it look like ps aux :) "ps -o user,pid,%cpu,%mem,vsz,rss,tty,stat,start,time,cmd" |
| 10:55.34 | maxagaz | simonrvn, like quit firefox, go to tty1... many things like this |
| 10:55.51 | tarnap | i wonder how my hoster did it |
| 10:55.58 | tarnap | i mean... i have ssh access to a vserver |
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| 10:56.56 | tarnap | and it only shows me users processes |
| 10:56.58 | nayx | tarnap: you might also add -u <username> |
| 10:57.00 | simonrvn | maxagaz: you want kiosk mode. you enable dontzap and disable vt switching in x, you don't go around disabling a keyboard, that's just nonsense. |
| 10:57.05 | tarnap | maybe an alias :) |
| 10:57.13 | simonrvn | maxagaz: gnome supports a kosk mode, so does kde. |
| 10:57.18 | simonrvn | kiosk* |
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| 10:59.55 | maxagaz | simonrvn, i'm not sure to follow you... there's 3 steps: 1. activate kiosk mode; 2. enable dontzap; 3. disable vt switching in x. Right ? |
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| 11:00.47 | simonrvn | 2 & 3 can be done at the sam time, they're both having to do with the xserver... man xorg.conf |
| 11:00.53 | simonrvn | same* |
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| 11:11.59 | enouf | tarnap: an alias is too easy to get around - you're user is likely jailed, there's a custom kernel, or a custom ps, or a locked down /proc (or some amount/variant of all those) |
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| 11:14.47 | DarkUranium | he |
| 11:14.48 | DarkUranium | hey* |
| 11:15.01 | DarkUranium | where do I change it so that I have to double-click (instead of single-click) for desktop icons? |
| 11:15.14 | tarnap | thx enouf |
| 11:15.21 | DarkUranium | also, how exactly does a sound preview work? |
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| 11:18.11 | enouf | asdzxc: mce=bootlog Enable logging of machine checks left over from booting. Disabled by default on AMD because some BIOS leave bogus ones. |
| 11:19.47 | enouf | frog_: the documentation doesn't explain? |
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| 11:21.15 | enouf | DarkUranium: try gconf-editor apps/nautilus/* or apps/Desktop/* or someshit |
| 11:21.32 | DarkUranium | enouf, I'm on KDE |
| 11:21.40 | enouf | kcontrol |
| 11:21.45 | DarkUranium | I am in kcontrol |
| 11:21.51 | DarkUranium | but I can't seem to find the setting to change that |
| 11:21.53 | enouf | well change it |
| 11:22.08 | DarkUranium | I found mouse button actions, but left button says "No Action" |
| 11:22.19 | DarkUranium | (middle is window list, right is desktop menu) |
| 11:22.20 | enouf | DarkUranium: ofcourse not, there's 5 million other useless ones to search through |
| 11:22.29 | enouf | but i guarantee you it's in there |
| 11:23.05 | enouf | (atleast on 3.5.x versions) |
| 11:24.13 | themill | DarkUranium: type "click" in the search box at the top of kcontrolcentre |
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| 11:24.27 | DarkUranium | ooh |
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| 11:24.33 | DarkUranium | it was under mouse, not desktop behaviour |
| 11:24.44 | themill | yeah... poorly placed if you ask me |
| 11:24.44 | DarkUranium | I overlooked that search box :P |
| 11:24.50 | DarkUranium | I agree, themill |
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| 11:27.31 | maxagaz | simonrvn, how to use kiosk mode in gnome ? |
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| 11:28.39 | enouf | themill: just while we're on my k petpeeves :-P ya know what's even most stupid? not having a 'search' function when you go into kde Menu Editor |
| 11:29.15 | themill | wouldn't adding that be just more bloat though? I mean, you should just know where it is... |
| 11:29.17 | themill | hides |
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| 11:29.42 | enouf | hurls all sortsd of debris at themill 's ;ast known location .. |
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| 11:31.29 | simonrvn | hm, a new daemon, sortsd? |
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| 11:31.34 | simonrvn | runs away |
| 11:31.52 | enouf | glares at simonrvn |
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| 11:32.07 | Bevix | Hi all |
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| 11:32.48 | Bevix | I have a problem: cron is executing commands while they are not entered when i open the list with crontab -e |
| 11:32.52 | simonrvn | doesn't see enouf's eyes burn into his back, but does feel the burning of the holes going into his back |
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| 11:33.32 | at0m|c | Bevix: tried crontab -e as root? |
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| 11:33.43 | Bevix | yes at0m|c |
| 11:33.49 | blackgra1 | that will get ya everytime |
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| 11:34.07 | enouf | simonrvn: ;-) |
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| 11:34.58 | Bevix | http://pastebin.com/m1601b507 |
| 11:35.25 | enouf | Bevix: only as root? is it aliased perhaps? |
| 11:36.14 | Bevix | What do you mean enouf? The crontabs only execute as root |
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| 11:36.38 | Bevix | there are no more users on that system except my local user, and that user has no crontabs |
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| 11:37.33 | Bevix | well no other users except the users made by packages |
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| 11:38.19 | at0m|c | Bevix: not on this problem, but isn't there a / missing in front of dev/null there? |
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| 11:38.46 | themill | Bevix: if that's the output of crontab -l, then you've got a very broken crontab |
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| 11:39.04 | valdyn | Bevix: why are you editing /etc/crontab directly? |
| 11:39.11 | valdyn | Bevix: thats silly |
| 11:39.24 | themill | valdyn: supposedly that was crontab -l not /etc/crontab... |
| 11:40.02 | valdyn | themill: just the lower half? |
| 11:40.15 | enouf | Bevix: /5 * root chmod 777 /var/run/samba/winbindd_privileged >dev/null 2>&1 (runs once every 5 minutes - are you sure your crontab -l conicides directly with syslog results?) |
| 11:40.39 | themill | valdyn: the whole lot -- see the command then the output. Unless he's editing pastes on us ;( |
| 11:40.51 | maxagaz | simonrvn, did you mean sabayon instead of kiosk ? |
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| 11:40.54 | enouf | themill: looks like /etc/crontab was edited |
| 11:41.07 | valdyn | themill: so he put the whole /etc/crontab into roots crontab, uh |
| 11:41.17 | themill | enouf: /etc/crontab is not listed by crontab -l .... (what valdyn said) |
| 11:41.27 | themill | and the syntax for the two is different |
| 11:41.30 | enouf | and there ya go |
| 11:41.52 | simonrvn | maxagaz: no. sabayon configures gnome for kiosk usage among other things. |
| 11:42.23 | maxagaz | simonrvn, i can't find anything relevant about kiosk on google |
| 11:43.01 | simonrvn | it's not a command ffs |
| 11:43.26 | valdyn | Bevix: have you looked at /etc/cron.* ? |
| 11:43.37 | at0m|c | maxagaz: tried googling 'gnome kiosk howto'? |
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| 11:44.04 | simonrvn | maxagaz: i dunno wtf you're doing, but: Results 1 - 10 of about 649 for kiosk mode gnome sabayon. (0.20 seconds) |
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| 11:44.39 | Bevix | Yes i checked those directory's. nothing in there what would execute these commands |
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| 11:44.51 | enouf | !be a googling barbie |
| 11:44.51 | dpkg | Aww, googling is HARD! Let's go shopping, enouf |
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| 11:45.18 | Bevix | Mar 22 12:40:01 proxysrv /USR/SBIN/CRON[2588]: (root) CMD (/etc/ntpdate domainsrv >/dev/null 2>&1) is every 5 minutes, (it was in crontab more then a half year ago) |
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| 11:46.31 | enouf | well lines 19 and 32 coincide |
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| 11:46.43 | valdyn | Bevix: make a new paste with the output of cat /etc/crontab and crontab -l |
| 11:46.51 | valdyn | Bevix: i cant believe this old paste, its fucked |
| 11:47.07 | enouf | Bevix: and the contents of the .pl script |
| 11:47.53 | enouf | crap - anyone of those scripts could be doing that ... oh well |
| 11:48.21 | valdyn | having to run a chmod every 5 mins is fucked too, but thats a seperate issue |
| 11:48.35 | Bevix | http://pastebin.com/m5c40c542 |
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| 11:49.15 | valdyn | Bevix: run crontab -e as root and remove all but the last 4 lines |
| 11:49.30 | Bevix | i know valdyn, server configured my the previous sysadmin |
| 11:49.32 | Bevix | ok |
| 11:49.37 | enouf | Bevix: and are you showing syslog on "proxysrv" as well as it's /etc/crontab and crontab -l output? |
| 11:50.28 | enouf | grah ... |
| 11:50.30 | maxagaz | at0m|c, simonrvn, none of the results i found help me |
| 11:50.43 | themill | wonders what crontab -e would do with a completely borked crontab like that one |
| 11:50.47 | valdyn | Bevix: the jobs you complained about are in /etc/crontab |
| 11:50.56 | valdyn | Bevix: 2 of them are, the other is in crontab -l |
| 11:51.05 | Bevix | yes valdyn, i just saw it |
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| 11:51.41 | Bevix | i did not know that you could edit /etc/crontab directly |
| 11:51.54 | simonrvn | maxagaz: you want to allow only certain things by users in x right? limit access to the file system, disallow killing x or changing to a vt, that sort of stuff? |
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| 11:52.22 | maxagaz | simonrvn, yes |
| 11:52.28 | gnumm | hi |
| 11:52.32 | valdyn | maxagaz: thats what sabayon does |
| 11:52.34 | simonrvn | that's *exactly* what you want then |
| 11:52.36 | gnumm | who decides which packages are put in debian backports? |
| 11:53.01 | S3v3N | What's the command for complete uninstall mysql-server, mysql-client and phpmyadmin? |
| 11:53.04 | enouf | gnumm: many people - why? |
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| 11:53.29 | Bevix | thanks for helping me |
| 11:53.31 | simonrvn | install sabayon, run it - i'd recommend using sux or something, or gksu/gksudo, and then play with that until you're happy. |
| 11:53.40 | valdyn | S3v3N: aptitude purge mysql-server mysql-client phpmyadmin |
| 11:53.45 | gnumm | enouf: i wanted to know if gimp 2.6 will be put |
| 11:54.11 | S3v3N | valdyn: thanks. what's the difference beetwen aptitude and apt-get ? |
| 11:54.56 | xand | how do you delete an encrypted volume in the lenny installer "Partition disks" screen? there seems no way to do so |
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| 11:55.37 | xand | I want to delete the partition I created to store one so I can make it smaller, but it won't let me as it contains the encrypted volume... and the encrypted volume has no delete option |
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| 11:55.51 | valdyn | s4br3: you can use apt-get too |
| 11:55.52 | hoxu | !tell S3v3N about why aptitude |
| 11:56.02 | enouf | gnumm: if someone with debian packaging knowhow and nackporting skills does it and asks it accepted as even a non-naintainer upload -- there's a process to go through ,,, maybe ask #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org and/or /msg dpkg nmg |
| 11:56.14 | kunal113 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.14 | enouf | s/backporting* |
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| 11:56.29 | hoxu | kunal113, /msg dpkg msg the bot |
| 11:56.29 | S3v3N | thank you |
| 11:56.57 | S3v3N | hoxu: so if i understand correct i can use aptitude install <something> , for installing also? |
| 11:57.09 | hoxu | S3v3N, yes |
| 11:57.17 | gnumm | ok |
| 11:57.17 | S3v3N | well thanks for help |
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| 11:57.44 | gnumm | S3v3N: but do not mix apt-get and aptitude, choose one and use it then |
| 11:58.04 | S3v3N | aha ok :) |
| 11:58.37 | xand | waits several more hours for installer to erase partition |
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| 11:59.33 | enouf | xand: i wonder if you can in rescue mode - /msg dpkg rescue mode - maybe ask on #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net/irc.debian.org (it would seem like a good reason to not to be able to wipe encrypted volumes without passkey/passphrase access prior ;-)) |
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| 12:00.46 | maxagaz | simonrvn, valdyn, ok for sabayon |
| 12:01.04 | simonrvn | maxagaz: have fun |
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| 12:01.11 | arius | Hello! does someone have experience with the laserprinter magicolor 2550 from Konica? |
| 12:01.29 | enouf | xand: also - is it aes encrypted, luks key protected?, etc maybe you can alt-f2 and load the needed modules? or run cryptsetup from the shell? |
| 12:02.15 | maxagaz | i think disabling the two keys Ctrl and Alt would be the best way to do what i need |
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| 12:04.18 | S3v3N | anybody here know for good tutorial how to install mysql with phpmyadmin and configure it to unix user? |
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| 12:06.19 | xand | enouf: I can go back and tell it to use Guided partitioning which removes them |
| 12:06.35 | xand | and you can make it format it... just not delete it |
| 12:06.53 | xand | seems to me that someone forgot a menu entry :P |
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| 12:08.14 | ces200 | can u help me pls? how can i add ed2k protokol on lenny/gnome desktop ? |
| 12:08.31 | Stanlin | oh jess |
| 12:08.43 | Stanlin | ed2k is a protocol? |
| 12:08.49 | enouf | xand: heh |
| 12:08.54 | Stanlin | aint just torrent? |
| 12:09.36 | ces200 | amule ed2k://|file|... link |
| 12:09.47 | ces200 | open my amule and add link |
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| 12:11.35 | ces200 | ? |
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| 12:12.43 | ces200 | j #amule |
| 12:12.55 | ces200 | sorry :) |
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| 12:19.28 | osfd | Hello. I want to stop using skype, so I'd like to try some SIP phone software. In the repo I found wengophone but I can't create an account. does that make sense to you...? should I choose another soft ..? |
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| 12:20.04 | asg_ | osfd: take a look at ekiga |
| 12:20.14 | osfd | asg_: I'm kde user... |
| 12:21.07 | at0m|c | osfd: kphone is kde's SIP client |
| 12:21.08 | asg_ | then ask #debian-kde |
| 12:21.14 | blackgra1 | yeah |
| 12:21.18 | blackgra1 | ask them |
| 12:21.31 | asg_ | ekiga still works with kde and any other wm |
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| 12:22.35 | osfd | wengophone is no good ? |
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| 12:22.57 | DarkUranium | hey guys |
| 12:23.01 | DarkUranium | I can't seem to get sound working in KDE |
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| 12:23.47 | DarkUranium | could anyone tell me whichs ettings should I check? |
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| 12:25.54 | lostson | DarkUranium: which version of kde ? |
| 12:26.02 | monkey_d_luffy | After a 21 days uptime I decided to reboot my system... now I have no sound :( running alsamixer gets me: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 12:26.10 | DarkUranium | lostson: 3.5.10 |
| 12:26.15 | monkey_d_luffy | cat /proc/asound/cards shows my card |
| 12:26.38 | monkey_d_luffy | I don't know if the problem was in rebooting with my webcam plugged on (which has a in-built mic) |
| 12:27.11 | DarkUranium | lostson: I had the same problem in F8, but can't recall exactly what I did... Although I had some app that I can't seem to find here |
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| 12:28.51 | DarkUranium | lostson: I believe the app had a test sound + device settings... |
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| 12:35.48 | brutus | Help! My vlc plays wmv video, but there is no sound...What should I do? |
| 12:36.02 | blackgraz | install windows |
| 12:36.13 | m_mesEW | :))) |
| 12:37.04 | blackgraz | brutus: you try changing auido tracks in vlc |
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| 12:37.17 | enouf | brutus: i think there's a bug in certain versions of libavcodec - see the BTS |
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| 12:37.58 | brutus | enouf, I already have w32codecs installed but still no luck...what is libavcodec? |
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| 12:39.52 | DarkUranium | lotson: any ideas? |
| 12:39.56 | DarkUranium | lostson* |
| 12:41.00 | lostson | maybe restart alsa or reboot without your webcam plugged in |
| 12:41.08 | lostson | is grasping at straws |
| 12:41.20 | enouf | Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders |
| 12:41.24 | DarkUranium | lostson: Well, I haven't restarted since installing yet, perhaps it would help... |
| 12:41.31 | DarkUranium | lostson: Now webcams though |
| 12:41.39 | DarkUranium | lostson: Although I can't see how a webcam would affect audio |
| 12:41.57 | enouf | DarkUranium: kcontrol |
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| 12:41.59 | DarkUranium | lostson: let me try logging out and back in for a start |
| 12:42.06 | DarkUranium | brb, rnouf, lostson |
| 12:42.08 | lostson | you wouldnt think it would webcams are always tricky |
| 12:42.39 | enouf | monkey_d_luffy: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 12:42.47 | enouf | monkey_d_luffy: /msg dpkg soundcheck |
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| 12:43.06 | enouf | monkey_d_luffy: /msg dpkg speaker-test |
| 12:43.40 | DarkUranium | back |
| 12:44.05 | DarkUranium | enouf: Well, now what |
| 12:44.27 | enouf | DarkUranium: as root ; lsof |
| 12:44.29 | enouf | er |
| 12:44.54 | enouf | DarkUranium: as root ; lsof | egrep 'arts|esd|flash|pulse' |
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| 12:45.30 | DarkUranium | enouf: libesd |
| 12:45.31 | enouf | DarkUranium: kcontrol > sound > is artsd sound server enabled? |
| 12:45.46 | enouf | is ALSA selected from drop down in 2nd tab? |
| 12:46.32 | monkey_d_luffy | I get a bunch of errors with aplay: http://pastebin.com/dc0b6e8a |
| 12:46.33 | enouf | also run "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base" select alsa, and lsmod |
| 12:46.44 | DarkUranium | enouf: I've selected alsa when autodetect didn't work |
| 12:47.02 | enouf | er lsmod | grep snd_mixer_oss ; if not install alsa-oss |
| 12:47.11 | monkey_d_luffy | I probably should reboot again and the problem will magically disappear, just like it appeared -_-' |
| 12:47.22 | DarkUranium | enouf: I've done it, and I do have snd_mixer_oss |
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| 12:48.05 | djace | I'm trying to use the http://debian.pkgs.cpan.org CPAN deb repository, but apt-get update fails cause it tries to get the package list for the binary-amd64, instead of binary-i386. Is there a way to specify the architecture in the apt sources.list? |
| 12:48.09 | enouf | DarkUranium: run through what "/msg dpkg alsa checklist" tells you |
| 12:48.18 | enouf | not sure what else to tell you |
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| 12:48.35 | DarkUranium | /msg? |
| 12:48.46 | enouf | !msgthebot |
| 12:48.46 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
| 12:48.59 | DarkUranium | ah |
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| 12:49.45 | enouf | monkey_d_luffy: yep :-P thank the windows-like designers of bloatwarez DEs for that |
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| 12:52.10 | enouf | djace: dpkg- -print-architecture |
| 12:52.15 | enouf | djace: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 12:52.41 | djace | enouf, i'm on amd64. |
| 12:53.03 | DarkUranium | enouf: doesn't seem to work |
| 12:53.27 | djace | the sources.list manpage says $(ARCH) will expand to the architecture, but it doesn't :/ |
| 12:53.52 | enouf | so, how do you expect to use a 32bit binary without 32bit lib support? you have ia32-libs installed? |
| 12:54.15 | foetus | hello -- whats the main difference between hard and symbolic links? ln offers, that in case of a hardlink the target must exist, but what is the difference in functionality? |
| 12:54.17 | enouf | DarkUranium: oh well - there's always vista :-p |
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| 12:54.36 | djace | enouf, i'm trying to install perl modules |
| 12:54.41 | DarkUranium | enouf: I wish I could stab people in the face over the internet >_< |
| 12:54.45 | enouf | foetus: broken symlinks can and do exist |
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| 12:55.28 | enouf | foetus: a symlink is always 0777 .. and the target is the dir/ inode entry, as is a hardlink |
| 12:55.56 | Kano | hi, hat could be the problem with the kde konsole that it wants to use sudo when system root mode is selected and not su? |
| 12:56.11 | valdyn | foetus: a hardlink is not a link. its like the file itself |
| 12:56.11 | foetus | enouf: ah, and what is better? does an hardlink stand for static operation or something else? |
| 12:56.19 | enouf | foetus: a hardlink is just a different name for the exact same file - try this find /bin -samefile /bin/uncompress |
| 12:56.26 | foetus | enouf: ah, i see |
| 12:56.32 | enouf | those are all hardlinks |
| 12:56.56 | enouf | foetus: now do ls -i on each ;-) |
| 12:57.24 | valdyn | i dont see use for hardlinks except for backups |
| 12:57.32 | enouf | ~$ find /bin -samefile /bin/uncompress -exec ls -i {} \; |
| 12:57.43 | foetus | enouf: and if i call the file other the path (without slash), and i wonna make changes on it, does it change the real file or the hardlink standalone? |
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| 12:58.01 | foetus | over, sorry.. |
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| 12:58.38 | foetus | enouf: or is this a placeholder.. |
| 12:59.09 | valdyn | foetus: make a hardlink to a file and a link to the same file, delete the file, inspect both links |
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| 13:00.00 | enouf | foetus: start at the section Directories ; http://web.mit.edu/tytso/www/linux/ext2intro.html |
| 13:00.01 | foetus | enouf: ah,thanks..real difficult :) |
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| 13:00.53 | enouf | actually jump up to "Basic File System Concepts" .. there's mucho info out there |
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| 13:01.31 | foetus | ok, we all must learn :) |
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| 13:06.31 | DarkUranium | so uhm... |
| 13:06.37 | DarkUranium | can anyone else help me out with my audio problems? |
| 13:06.38 | blackgraz | yeah |
| 13:07.05 | DarkUranium | how do I completely disable IEC958 input (that worked in Fedora, IIRC) |
| 13:07.09 | DarkUranium | output/ |
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| 13:07.12 | DarkUranium | actually both |
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| 13:08.30 | enouf | DarkUranium: is that a module parameter? "modinfo <modulename>" |
| 13:08.46 | DarkUranium | enouf: dunno, I do see it in the settings though... |
| 13:08.49 | enouf | cat /proc/asound/drivers ? |
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| 13:09.17 | DarkUranium | enouf: no such file or directlry |
| 13:09.20 | DarkUranium | enouf: unless you meant devices |
| 13:09.32 | enouf | cat /proc/asound/modules |
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| 13:09.45 | DarkUranium | 0 snd_intel0x80 |
| 13:09.57 | enouf | does it exist as a separate /device? |
| 13:09.58 | DarkUranium | which is weird, because I doubt that nForce has much to do with intel |
| 13:09.58 | orlok | Anybody here managed a PXE debian install on an eeepc? |
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| 13:10.19 | enouf | DarkUranium: oh it does - nForce uses snd-hda-intel all the time |
| 13:10.26 | DarkUranium | ah |
| 13:10.28 | orlok | It seems the current debian netinstall doesnt have support for the eee's ethernet |
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| 13:11.09 | OldMonk | what's this new configuration option with PAM, about profiles? |
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| 13:11.31 | DarkUranium | enouf: how do I find out if it exists as a separate device? |
| 13:11.51 | OldMonk | wtf are PAM profiles anyway? |
| 13:11.57 | enouf | ~$ cat /proc/asound/cards ? |
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| 13:12.14 | DarkUranium | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.14 | DarkUranium | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:13.08 | orlok | Ok, better question - i want to install a bootable, readable, writeable debian system on a USB drive. I do not currently have a debian system here |
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| 13:13.14 | monkey_d_luffy | After I run alsaconf I get an error "amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device" but then it says "Now ALSA is ready to use." :s |
| 13:13.58 | OldMonk | enables the unix auth profile anyway |
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| 13:16.06 | afloofloo | I did a dd image of /dev/sda as a backup... how can I access the sda1 partition contained within the image without restoring to disk? |
| 13:16.13 | Amon-san | hi how to i remove the debian/copyright/warranty notice that is printed at each ssh login? |
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| 13:17.50 | DarkUranium | afloofloo: Never tried it myself, but mount should work |
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| 13:18.12 | DarkUranium | mount /path/to/file /mnt/foobar |
| 13:18.38 | hoxu | afloofloo, DarkUranium: loopback mounting works for files that contain a partition, not for a whole device which also contains the partition table |
| 13:18.44 | hoxu | afaik |
| 13:18.53 | pertain | afloofloo: using losetup -o <offset to sda1 in bytes> |
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| 13:19.04 | afloofloo | thanks pertain |
| 13:19.12 | afloofloo | just have to find the offset now then :) |
| 13:19.24 | hoxu | afloofloo, use fdisk -l or something on the file |
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| 13:19.34 | afloofloo | thanks |
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| 13:19.53 | OldMonk | Amon-san: a dirty hack would be to ln -sf /dev/null /var/run/motd |
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| 13:20.17 | Amon-san | can i simply delete the motd? |
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| 13:20.32 | OldMonk | Amon-san: it'll get rebuilt at next boot |
| 13:20.35 | Amon-san | has to be stored somewhere, right? |
| 13:20.41 | _JusSx_ | Amon-san: yeah, rm motd && touch motf |
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| 13:20.44 | Rienzilla | echo "" > /etc/motd |
| 13:20.45 | _JusSx_ | Amon-san: yeah, rm motd && touch motd* |
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| 13:20.58 | OldMonk | _JusSx_: er, it' |
| 13:21.05 | OldMonk | ll get rebuilt automatically |
| 13:21.05 | Amon-san | it's a server, doesn't reboot that often ^^ |
| 13:21.32 | OldMonk | Amon-san: if it's only the debian message you're worried about then edit /etc/motd.tail |
| 13:21.36 | hoxu | Amon-san, where do you want to remove motd from? |
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| 13:21.40 | jmonreal | hi all |
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| 13:21.49 | jmonreal | whats the package name for installing pthreads? |
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| 13:22.02 | Amon-san | yes there it is -> /etc/motd |
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| 13:22.09 | Amon-san | removed the content |
| 13:22.11 | DarkUranium | enouf: any ideas? |
| 13:22.13 | Amon-san | let's see |
| 13:22.18 | jmonreal | I need pthread.h |
| 13:22.20 | OldMonk | only the uname -a portion is dynamic, the rest is in motd.tail |
| 13:22.38 | valdyn | !b-e jmonreal |
| 13:22.38 | dpkg | jmonreal: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 13:22.39 | Amon-san | perfect |
| 13:22.42 | OldMonk | Amon-san: will you remember to do this each time the server boots, specially after a year? |
| 13:22.44 | valdyn | jmonreal: libc6-dev |
| 13:22.59 | valdyn | !tell jmonreal -about search |
| 13:23.04 | nayx | Amon-san: grep -r motd /etc/init.d/ its handled by bootmisc, change that initscript and your motd will not get rebuild on reboot |
| 13:23.16 | Amon-san | nayx: thanks |
| 13:23.22 | Amon-san | i'll dive into the file ^^ |
| 13:23.29 | OldMonk | just edit motd.tail |
| 13:23.53 | renton_ | i'm trying to install ATI drivers using this guide: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-install-ati-fglrx-driver-in-debian.html is this ok? I got an error.. when i try to execute sh make.sh |
| 13:23.57 | OldMonk | unless you have a problem with "Linux FOO 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686" too |
| 13:24.12 | jmonreal | dpkg and valdyn thanks |
| 13:24.12 | dpkg | jmonreal: I give up, what is it? |
| 13:25.03 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.03 | dpkg | no idea, adb |
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| 13:26.06 | DarkUranium | abd: he doesn't seem so sure :P |
| 13:26.10 | hoxu | Amon-san, you should've just added "PrintMotd no" to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 13:26.21 | OldMonk | heh |
| 13:26.21 | renton_ | this is http://pastebin.com/m26660b0d the error i get when i try to do "sh make.sh" while installing ATI drivers... |
| 13:26.31 | hoxu | Amon-san, don't mess with the etc bootfiles, those get overwritten anyway when you upgrade packages |
| 13:26.44 | Amon-san | good idea |
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| 13:26.58 | renton_ | I installed both the kernel source and includes... i'm on debian squeeze |
| 13:27.26 | OldMonk | that's true too |
| 13:27.49 | plsd | Hi, I'm using Debian 5.0 AMD64 and it's happened 3 times that X just crashes for no apparent reason. The screen turns black and after a while I get this message: "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?" and then "The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly." You can read my /va |
| 13:27.49 | plsd | r/log/Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/d45d48eab |
| 13:27.56 | DarkUranium | anyways, does anyone have an idea on how to disable IEC958? |
| 13:28.04 | DarkUranium | input/output, that is |
| 13:28.28 | Amon-san | hoxu is already set to "no" on both ends |
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| 13:28.42 | hoxu | Amon-san, did you restart ssh? |
| 13:28.59 | Amon-san | no, i mean i didn't change the file since i installed |
| 13:29.06 | Amon-san | it never was set to "yes" |
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| 13:32.34 | Mikey | Hi All |
| 13:33.00 | DarkUranium | hi |
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| 13:34.08 | Mikey | When etch is no longer supported will the repos be closed ? |
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| 13:34.17 | Mikey | or will they still be accessible |
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| 13:34.39 | Mikey | thats Feb 2010 i guess |
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| 13:36.27 | Mikey | How do I get flash working in epiphany and opera in etch ? |
| 13:36.34 | gps23 | how to put pdf support in iceweasel? |
| 13:36.41 | Mikey | I have download adobe flash 10 |
| 13:37.02 | gps23 | !tell Mikey about flash |
| 13:37.04 | ttl_ | hi everybody. For all who support linux and the open source community. You should use the linuxmail |
| 13:37.06 | ttl_ | http://www.linuxmail.org/scripts/common/index.main?signin=1&lang=us |
| 13:37.07 | ttl_ | it's faster, have more support, and more secure. |
| 13:37.09 | Kano | Mikey: you have to use flash9 or an older flash10 beta (which i do not recommend) |
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| 13:37.47 | Kano | flash10 final requires libc6 2.4 |
| 13:37.49 | Mikey | I did look around, but didnt find a flash9 or 7 |
| 13:38.01 | Mikey | all links point back to flash 10 download at adobe. |
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| 13:46.07 | xand | argh bastard lenny installer |
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| 13:46.39 | Mikey | Will swf work with opera too ? |
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| 13:47.08 | Kano | with flash 9 yes, but can cause high cpu load, it works better with lenny |
| 13:47.54 | Mikey | Kano: no, I was not able to find flash 9 |
| 13:48.02 | Mikey | so i installed swf |
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| 13:53.29 | Mikey | it says inavlid option |
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| 13:54.12 | Kano | install lenny |
| 13:54.19 | Mikey | okay |
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| 13:57.11 | DarkUranium | anyone? |
| 13:57.17 | DarkUranium | I still can't get audio to work =( |
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| 13:59.31 | Shadowkllr | ok so i accidentally hibernated my debian box last night, and when i turned it on, it just goes to a black screen and the monitor shuts off...... |
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| 13:59.47 | OldMonk | Shadowkllr: laptop? |
| 13:59.56 | Shadowkllr | no |
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| 14:01.10 | OldMonk | i've had that problem on my laptop, most of google seems to suggest it's a video driver problem |
| 14:01.45 | OldMonk | most likely you'll have to power cycle |
| 14:01.48 | themill | Shadowkllr: Do you have another machine around from which you can see if it's alive (can you ssh in)? |
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| 14:02.07 | wintix | what can i do to get rid of ethernet interfaces named eth0_rename_ren, etc? i digged through the udev configuration but can't seem to find the right thing. |
| 14:02.09 | OldMonk | or even ping it? |
| 14:02.16 | Shadowkllr | this one, hang on |
| 14:02.18 | themill | dpkg: tell wintix about z25 |
| 14:02.41 | wintix | themill: thank you :) |
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| 14:04.24 | monkey_d_luffy | How do I know sound is being outputted with alsa and not oss? I've run alsaconf... is that enough? |
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| 14:07.29 | monkey_d_luffy | My sound card wasn't working and I was getting errors with alsaconf, amixer, alsamixer.... but after I deleted ~/.asound* it started pseudo-working... I say pseudo because I no longer have erros and applications seem to work... but I don't have any sound... It's like sound is being redirected somewhere? Do I need to log out kde session??? |
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| 14:08.17 | monkey_d_luffy | enouf: are you still around? :p |
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| 14:09.32 | _Hicham_1 | monkey_d_luffy : do u have proper firmware? |
| 14:10.13 | dude7064 | how can I get access to the source code of displayin Arabic text in Unix ? |
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| 14:11.11 | monkey_d_luffy | _Hicham_1: firmware? I don't understand you question (I think I know what firmware is, but it doesn't make sense) Anyway, my sound was working fine, until I rebooted my system after a 20 days uptime |
| 14:12.12 | _Hicham_1 | try removing and reloading the audio driver |
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| 14:13.42 | monkey_d_luffy | I now executed: asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2 .asound* files were created... and I'm getting back error messages!!! :( |
| 14:13.58 | OldMonk | what messages? |
| 14:14.52 | monkey_d_luffy | OldMonk: in amarok it says "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers" |
| 14:15.05 | OldMonk | look in dmesg |
| 14:15.21 | themill | !alsa checklist |
| 14:15.21 | dpkg | 1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. <list alsa users> |
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| 14:16.17 | OldMonk | maybe we should add check dmesg to that list |
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| 14:16.46 | monkey_d_luffy | aplay doesn't get me any errors... but I hear no sound :/ |
| 14:17.25 | monkey_d_luffy | well with root.... as user I get errors if I have any .asound* files, that is: if I had run aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav previously |
| 14:17.43 | monkey_d_luffy | could anyone post their ~/.asound* files in pastebin? |
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| 14:18.12 | OldMonk | i don't have any |
| 14:18.15 | der_wetzel_ | huhu# |
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| 14:19.07 | monkey_d_luffy | asoundconf and aplay messages: http://pastebin.com/m6418f91f |
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| 14:19.45 | monkey_d_luffy | by deleting my .asound* files things seem to work fine (no errors in aplay or amarok), but I hear no sound :s |
| 14:20.10 | der_wetzel_ | whats up |
| 14:20.10 | monkey_d_luffy | it must be sending it to somewhere else, like tvcard |
| 14:20.15 | OldMonk | did you run alsamixer and unmute? |
| 14:20.47 | monkey_d_luffy | yes, I've run alsamixer... I don't have any channel mutted |
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| 14:21.48 | themill | Sometimes you need to mute a channel for it to work (e.g. External Amplifier), depends on the sound card and driver. |
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| 14:23.04 | nareshov | monkey_d_luffy: http://at.or.at/hans/misc/audigy+alsa.html - see if this helps |
| 14:23.05 | Mike1 | hey |
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| 14:23.37 | Mike1 | tried to install a package, but failed with "sed: can't read /usr/share/applications/defaults.list: No such file or directory" |
| 14:24.14 | der_wetzel_ | könnt ihr nich deutsch sprechen |
| 14:24.19 | Strogg | Hrmmm... So.. I'm reading debian's page on dh_make and creating packages.. and it says "don't make complicated packages".. but I need to make complicated packages. where can I find some more info on the topic? I've got a source repo that is used to be one library package, one documentation package, one abstract package, and 5 binary packages |
| 14:24.23 | der_wetzel_ | deutsch |
| 14:24.24 | Mike1 | aptitude tries to install it everytime i upgrade/install something |
| 14:24.31 | der_wetzel_ | german |
| 14:24.32 | Mike1 | and -of course- fails |
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| 14:24.40 | nareshov | !tell der_wetzel_ about de |
| 14:24.43 | Mike1 | der_wetzel_: mike kann deutsch, aber das ist ein englisher chan |
| 14:24.53 | der_wetzel_ | aso |
| 14:25.04 | Mike1 | how can i remove that damn broken package now? |
| 14:25.04 | themill | dpkg: tell Strogg about nmg |
| 14:25.12 | monkey_d_luffy | on a forum message it seems someone deleted their .asound* files, rebooted and it worked... -_-' |
| 14:25.16 | Mike1 | `dpkg --purge --force-all xmind` fails with same error |
| 14:25.29 | der_wetzel_ | iam from newyork |
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| 14:25.43 | DarkUranium | can anyone help me with my audio not working? |
| 14:25.48 | Strogg | themill: hrmmm thanks |
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| 14:27.59 | orioni | hi there, i have a laptop without cdrom , only floppy |
| 14:28.01 | hark | Mike1: which package and which version of debian? |
| 14:28.08 | orioni | and with a blank hdd |
| 14:28.15 | orioni | how can i install debian on that ? |
| 14:28.16 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps can somebody tell me if the settings a reasonable for my ulimit -a |
| 14:28.27 | OldMonk | orioni: if you have another machine you can do a net install |
| 14:28.43 | orioni | yes i have another PC |
| 14:28.49 | orioni | with windows xo |
| 14:28.51 | orioni | xp |
| 14:28.59 | Mike1 | hark: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmind3 the amd64 package |
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| 14:29.10 | Mike1 | hark: Debian Squeeze |
| 14:29.12 | orioni | can i make a tftp boot floppy ?! |
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| 14:29.25 | orioni | will this method work ? |
| 14:29.41 | bbelt16ag | http://pastebin.ca/1368025 |
| 14:29.49 | nareshov | it might be easier to install via USB.. |
| 14:29.51 | bbelt16ag | i keep getting fild to fork process.. |
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| 14:32.26 | OldMonk | orioni: what nareshov said: usb would be easier |
| 14:32.50 | orioni | my laptop is bit old , no boot from network card (pxe) and no usb boot |
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| 14:32.59 | adb | orioni: http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/20050317sarge2/images/floppy/ |
| 14:33.14 | orioni | is there a way to make some floppies and then continue install from the network ? |
| 14:33.24 | orioni | by downloading the system from the internet ? |
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| 14:33.38 | adb | i just said it |
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| 14:33.47 | orioni | thanx man |
| 14:34.00 | orioni | and whats the order ? |
| 14:34.08 | orioni | with img is the first required ? |
| 14:34.16 | orioni | which img? |
| 14:34.19 | der_wetzel_ | error4 |
| 14:34.24 | adb | install only the base system and than migrate to etch lenny ... |
| 14:34.31 | themill | Mike1: that is an exceedingly badly made package.... |
| 14:34.36 | adb | boot.img |
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| 14:34.50 | orioni | then network i suppose ? |
| 14:34.56 | adb | no root |
| 14:35.02 | Mike1 | themill: how can I remove it? :D |
| 14:35.03 | adb | than network |
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| 14:35.10 | orioni | thanx adb :) |
| 14:35.14 | adb | np |
| 14:35.17 | orioni | lets give it a try |
| 14:35.45 | Mike1 | themill: even the --force is powerless |
| 14:35.47 | themill | Mike1: try editing its postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to remove the offending "sed" line. You may want to also do that to the postrm script too. |
| 14:36.09 | adb | orioni: note the mirror address : http://archive.debian.org/debian/ |
| 14:36.37 | hark | Mike1: try changing it to /usr/share/gnome/applications/defaults.list |
| 14:36.38 | orioni | that url do i need to use to install ? |
| 14:36.56 | adb | yes |
| 14:36.59 | hark | no telling what else is wrong later |
| 14:37.04 | adb | only for sarge |
| 14:37.35 | Mike1 | themill, hark: thanks, at least uninstall worked with that line uncommented :) |
| 14:37.38 | orioni | aha,but i suppose i can upgrade to lenny after by using apt-get ? |
| 14:37.42 | adb | i meant the floppies are for sarge |
| 14:37.44 | OldMonk | hmm, is it possible to netinstall debian from a winduhs tftp server? |
| 14:38.17 | liable | OldMonk: as long as it serves up the kernel, i dont see why not |
| 14:38.32 | adb | orioni: sure , but first to etch |
| 14:38.46 | orioni | yes :) |
| 14:39.04 | patrikf | adb: huh? |
| 14:39.15 | adb | install only the base system and than migrate to etch lenny ... |
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| 14:39.20 | patrikf | but why? |
| 14:39.28 | adb | it is so |
| 14:39.29 | orioni | my laptop has 4 gb hdd ? i think this will be enough for the upgrade process ? |
| 14:39.37 | adb | sure |
| 14:39.39 | patrikf | adb: stop talking nonsense. |
| 14:39.47 | monkey_d_luffy | I hate linux!!!!!!!! :| %$&%$#/%$ I'm out of ideas to fix this stupid issue :/ |
| 14:39.47 | patrikf | orioni, you can just as well install lenny directly |
| 14:39.58 | orioni | how ? |
| 14:40.02 | der_wetzel_ | no |
| 14:40.19 | orioni | maybe yes , lets here patrikf |
| 14:40.25 | orioni | hear |
| 14:40.31 | patrikf | orioni: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ ? |
| 14:40.42 | patrikf | any reason why that shouldn't work? |
| 14:41.05 | adb | where are the floppy images ? |
| 14:41.07 | orioni | but i dont have a bootp NIC |
| 14:41.20 | orioni | my only option is floppy |
| 14:41.20 | Mike1 | hark: how can I change it before dpkg tries to install it? |
| 14:41.41 | orioni | no usb , no cd/dvd , no bootp/tftp network card |
| 14:41.45 | patrikf | orioni: I'd think there should be floppies that can boot from net independent from what is booted |
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| 14:42.31 | orioni | the url you gave have nothing that can be close to 1.44 mb |
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| 14:42.46 | orioni | so i dont see a way how can i install |
| 14:43.08 | valdyn | !rube goldberg install |
| 14:43.08 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 14:43.39 | patrikf | orioni: have a look at http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/removable |
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| 14:43.57 | mchelen | usb dot matrix printer?? |
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| 14:45.30 | here4thegear | hi all, I need a little help in deciding the best rout to go about this. I am using apache2 and currently, have several items in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, but, I'm thinking of switching over to using .htaccess to control this stuff. I have a site (we'll use site.com as example). I have several vhosts going. for instance. dev.site.com document rout is /var/www/dev/webroot. My biggest problem is that for development, svn checkouts will go in |
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| 14:46.06 | orioni | patrikf : thanx but i have only a winxp machine , no way that i can compile the source |
| 14:46.08 | orioni | :) |
| 14:46.18 | patrikf | orioni: there's precompiled images |
| 14:46.23 | here4thegear | I hope that didn't get truncated by irc. let me know if it got cut off. The last two characters should be ?) |
| 14:46.49 | themill | here4thegear: "svn checkouts will go in"... |
| 14:47.02 | here4thegear | svn checkouts will go into /var/www/whatever.... so, I'll want whatever.site.com to have a root of /var/www/whatever/webroot (does this make sense?) |
| 14:47.05 | here4thegear | thanks themill |
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| 14:47.31 | OldMonk | here4thegear: create a separate config file for each site |
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| 14:48.56 | themill | here4thegear: I'd use /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/www.site.com and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/dev.site.com for that. .htaccess files are a dirty hack for allowing users to change things. If you're root, you don't need them. |
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| 14:50.42 | themill | here4thegear: /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz may be of assistance |
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| 14:51.46 | here4thegear | OldMonk: themill I can see your point there, but, in an environment where there are a lot of svn checkouts which will need QA done on them, how can you force sites-enabled/www.site.com to be created? that is, my development team will have to basically be able to do the svn checkout then view the page right away (this is all in a closed LAN setup) |
| 14:52.53 | OldMonk | here4thegear: there's also a mass-hosting feature in apache, that may help |
| 14:53.25 | themill | here4thegear: the config file is in sites-enabled, the docroot should be in /var/www or /srv/www or similar. |
| 14:53.46 | here4thegear | I hope you can tell, right now I only know just enough about server configuration to get myself into trouble.. :) I've only been doing this setup for a week |
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| 14:54.58 | themill | here4thegear: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/mass.html is what OldMonk was referring to. |
| 14:55.14 | here4thegear | and it's the first time I've tried to set one up, so, I'm not being 'hard headed' just a bit ignorant as to what's out there... |
| 14:55.25 | monkey_d_luffy | <sigh> my problem on not having sound was because I have 2 soundcards... pci and motherboard... and i was choosing the wrong one..... the weird thing is that I had worked around this issue about 6 months ago and I had rebooted before, which doesn't make sense it stopped working after a 20 days uptime |
| 14:55.51 | here4thegear | OldMonk: themill thanks, I'll check the mass hosting out as well as sites-enabled options... very awesome stuff |
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| 14:56.09 | monkey_d_luffy | but now I don't understand one thing, after reboot cat /proc/asound/cards shows me 2 cards, after I run alsaconf I can only see one card... how can I have both cards visible/enabled? |
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| 14:56.43 | themill | here4thegear: sites-enabled is just a directory to hold bits of your config files in an easy way. There's nothing magical about it other than separating config files into little bits to make them easier to understand and easier to enable/disable |
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| 14:57.05 | mralex_ | can someone tell me please how do i open mysql port in firewall ? |
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| 14:57.35 | OldMonk | here4thegear: are you looking for virtual hosts to be created dynamically? not the content but the host itself? |
| 14:57.45 | Saviq | mralex_: hardly a place for that, are you using straight iptables or some shorewall thingy? |
| 14:58.16 | mralex_ | i don't really know ... how can i check ? |
| 14:58.40 | here4thegear | OldMonk: yes, exactly, but the biggest problem I am facing is that, there are 2 or 3 hosts that won't fit that pattern at all. |
| 14:59.45 | OldMonk | ouch, i don't know any way to do that |
| 14:59.58 | OldMonk | unless there's some config in mysql option or something |
| 15:00.02 | mralex_ | Saviq i think i use iptables |
| 15:00.19 | Saviq | you _think_?... |
| 15:00.38 | Saviq | mralex_: who set up your firewall? |
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| 15:00.42 | mralex_ | Saviq i don't remember installing any firewall so it must be iptables |
| 15:00.48 | Rienzilla | lol |
| 15:01.26 | here4thegear | OldMonk, the mysql stuff is not an issue, it's all going to pull from the same db in the development environment |
| 15:01.54 | OldMonk | here4thegear: i meant, apache configs in mysql (dynamic) |
| 15:02.03 | here4thegear | ahh, ok |
| 15:02.18 | OldMonk | perhaps someone else knows |
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| 15:05.13 | mralex_ | can someone please help me ? |
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| 15:08.17 | jamon | mralex_: mysql doesn't listen on anything but localhost by default (and for good reason) |
| 15:08.29 | asg | mralex_: by default, mysql doesn't listen on external interfaces. Check /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
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| 15:08.34 | FOREvERz | hello all! |
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| 15:09.20 | mralex_ | jamon asg i already modified the bind-address to the server's ip |
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| 15:09.54 | mralex_ | and it's just for 2 days until i get acces to the database where the website is |
| 15:10.35 | FOREvERz | What is size of Debian installer?? 5 DVD??/ |
| 15:10.54 | SQlvpapir | FOREvERz: you should be good to go with the 1st cd |
| 15:10.54 | asg | FOREvERz: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 15:11.17 | patrikf | FOREvERz: they contain ALL packages. if you have network access anyway, use netinst |
| 15:11.18 | SQlvpapir | it features full blown gnome but if you want the entire repos packed on dvds it about 5 yea |
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| 15:11.48 | SQlvpapir | netinstall is about 50mb or so:) |
| 15:11.56 | FOREvERz | patrikf` if i have network access i can download 1st disk?? |
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| 15:12.48 | SQlvpapir | FOREvERz: if you have a ethernet interface that is supported by the installer you could grab the networkinstaller and then install anything you'd like during install |
| 15:12.55 | Stanlin | hi, When debian will support netbooks? |
| 15:13.03 | SQlvpapir | if will then fetch the packages you choose when needed |
| 15:13.15 | phanter | hi there. I am trying to set up a sambar server. However, I cannot log into the shared folder. I tried many websites, but that did not help me. Who would like to help me to get the settings right? |
| 15:13.27 | valdyn | Stanlin: netbooks are nothing special |
| 15:13.43 | SQlvpapir | Stanlin: it does. recent changes to the kernel improved support for netbooks (like the eee machines) quiet a bit |
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| 15:14.15 | valdyn | Stanlin: and they dont need special support in general |
| 15:14.24 | Stanlin | SQlvpapir: but i cannot connect from the installer to a WIFI ap with WEP , only if its without WEP |
| 15:14.51 | valdyn | !tell Stanlin -about ask |
| 15:14.51 | FOREvERz | if i download 1st CD, i can install Debian? or i must download 1st DVD?? |
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| 15:15.06 | Gun_Smoke | FOREvERz, 1st CD is fine |
| 15:15.10 | valdyn | FOREvERz: just the netinstall disk or the first cd or the first dvd, whatever you want |
| 15:15.16 | FOREvERz | Gun_Smoke thanks |
| 15:15.16 | Gun_Smoke | if you have a network connectiong |
| 15:15.17 | Rienzilla | if you have internet connectivity, even the net installer is enough |
| 15:15.18 | SQlvpapir | FOREvERz: 1st cd is fine. it allows you to install basic debian or with desktop etc. |
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| 15:16.27 | FOREvERz | thanks, and sorry for my english ))) |
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| 15:18.42 | Stanlin | its a pity debian installer doesnt support wifi with wep :( |
| 15:20.29 | koan | wep? does that thing still exist? |
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| 15:22.32 | Eulex | Stanlin, why wouldn't it? |
| 15:22.43 | Stanlin | yeah, comes with all wifi ap's |
| 15:23.02 | Stanlin | Eulex: it doesnt connect, nor with static or dhcp |
| 15:23.33 | Eulex | if the text ui doesn't allow setting a password, you should be able to just drop to a console and use iwconfig manually. |
| 15:23.53 | Stanlin | oki |
| 15:24.11 | jamon | Eulex: you should also not have to worry about binary firmwares for cards |
| 15:24.33 | jamon | that's probably why we don't see more people working on wifi, since it isn't legal to distrubute half the time |
| 15:24.43 | Eulex | true |
| 15:24.48 | Eulex | Stanlin, what card? |
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| 15:26.00 | mahesh | plz help.... iam not able to play .DAT video files in debian 5, none of my player opens it |
| 15:26.20 | mahesh | but iam able to play all the other video formats |
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| 15:26.58 | Eulex | mahesh, .dat can be almost any type of file. can you be more specific? |
| 15:27.08 | Vorbote | mahesh: and what does file say about the contents? |
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| 15:27.31 | OldMonk | mahesh: what does this command say: file /path/to/your/file.dat |
| 15:27.43 | mahesh | it says that it is an VCD content... i have a video file in .dat format |
| 15:28.05 | Stanlin | eulex atheros |
| 15:29.03 | Vorbote | mahesh: Aha! You have to add debian-multimedia.org to your repository list and do some updating... |
| 15:29.04 | jester45 | mahesh, what players have you tried |
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| 15:30.33 | mahesh | i have tried kaffeine, mplayer, vlc and totem |
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| 15:30.44 | Vorbote | mahesh: you may want to use something like avidemux to remux the file into a proper mpeg container or at least an avi. |
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| 15:31.04 | Eulex | mahesh, what did mplayer output? |
| 15:31.15 | mahesh | Vorbote how to add it the url to repo, in software sources it asks for the exact apt lines |
| 15:31.21 | Vorbote | mahesh: or as a last resort remux it by hand with ffmpeg. |
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| 15:31.37 | Vorbote | mahesh: go to the site and follow the FAQ. |
| 15:31.40 | mahesh | Eulex there was no output... |
| 15:32.17 | Eulex | mahesh, mplayer is a console application and sure does produce output in the terminal. |
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| 15:32.54 | mahesh | Eulex i just tried in in UI |
| 15:33.05 | mahesh | GUI |
| 15:33.08 | Eulex | mahesh, then try with mplayer again, and not gmplayer. |
| 15:33.15 | mahesh | ok |
| 15:33.26 | Trewas | mahesh: did you try playing them directly from the mounted cd (mplayer /path/to/avseq01.dat or so)? that won't work because vcds are not normal cd (they have a tiny iso9660 image at the beginning and videos as separate tracks with reduced error correction after that) |
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| 15:34.18 | mahesh | Trewas i did it from cd... ok i will copy the contents to my disk and try playing it |
| 15:34.26 | Trewas | mahesh: no, that won't work |
| 15:34.34 | mahesh | Vorbote thankyou |
| 15:34.51 | Trewas | mahesh: mplayer vcd:// should work (but you have to define what device the cd-player is), or for example vcdimager can read the files to normal mpegs |
| 15:35.53 | mahesh | Trewas i will try with this now |
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| 15:36.43 | arcnewuss | what is linux-image-2.6.9-rc8-amd64 |
| 15:36.54 | arcnewuss | what does rc8 stand for |
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| 15:37.10 | jester45 | release canidate 8 |
| 15:37.42 | jester45 | candidate* |
| 15:38.25 | arcnewuss | so just an updated version of 2.6.29 |
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| 15:38.50 | jester45 | yea |
| 15:39.13 | jester45 | at least thats what im guessing |
| 15:39.37 | Vorbote | mahesh: vlc can open the VCD for you as long as you treat it as a disc image. |
| 15:39.49 | arcnewuss | i am using 2.6.26 and upgrading to 2.6.29 because my new wireless card is supposed to be supported with that kernel |
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| 15:39.58 | OldMonk | arcnewuss: which card? |
| 15:40.08 | arcnewuss | link 5100 |
| 15:40.17 | mahesh | Vorbote i got it... thankyou |
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| 15:40.46 | arcnewuss | anyhow if it dont work i keep 2.6.26 alive and in grub |
| 15:40.50 | mahesh | Thankyou everybody.... i got the .DAT working now |
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| 15:41.46 | Stanlin | why Debian doesnt support EXT4? |
| 15:41.48 | jester45 | arcnewuss, it should stay in grub |
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| 15:42.24 | arcnewuss | ok reboot to test this, thanks |
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| 15:45.12 | themill | judd kconfig EXT4 --release sid |
| 15:45.13 | judd | themill: Searching for 'EXT4' in sid kernel config gives EXT4_FS=m EXT4DEV_COMPAT=y EXT4_FS_XATTR=y EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL=y EXT4_FS_SECURITY=y. |
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| 15:45.21 | themill | Stanlin: ^^ Debian doesn't? |
| 15:45.40 | jester45 | dpkg told him about ext4 |
| 15:45.40 | dpkg | jester45: bugger all, i dunno |
| 15:45.51 | jester45 | :( |
| 15:46.08 | DarkUranium | hey |
| 15:46.15 | DarkUranium | does anyone know how can I get audio working here? |
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| 15:46.30 | jester45 | do you know what card you have? |
| 15:46.39 | DarkUranium | how do I upgrade to ext4 anyways |
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| 15:46.48 | DarkUranium | but I digress. |
| 15:47.07 | themill | DarkUranium: (a) one question at a time (b) iyhtays. |
| 15:47.08 | Saviq | guys, please explain this to me: http://pastebin.com/d154cdd70 |
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| 15:47.28 | Saviq | I'm trying to listen on 0.0.0.0 but it only listens on the external ip... |
| 15:47.40 | Drakeson | How can I force aptitude (or apt-get) to always install all the development packages of the packages I have automatically? |
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| 15:47.42 | DarkUranium | themill: I first asked the audio question hours ago, and kept asking it in 15-60 minute intervals... got ignored, mostly |
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| 15:47.55 | Eulex | Drakeson, you can't. |
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| 15:48.20 | themill | DarkUranium: I know. That's either a sign that you're asking bad questions or that no-one knows. /msg dpkg ask |
| 15:48.23 | Eulex | DarkUranium, to get an answer, you might want to supply a few more details more than "it doesn't work" |
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| 15:48.40 | Saviq | and it's like that for anything that tries to listen - so I have to explicitly add localhost, and... I've stumbled upon a daemon that doesn't allow setting an ip - it should listen on 0.0.0.0 and that's it :/ |
| 15:48.44 | DarkUranium | themill: I'd provide more details if I knew where to look and what could be a problem |
| 15:49.05 | Drakeson | Eulex: can you please elaborate a bit? |
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| 15:49.23 | Agiofws | http://tinyurl.com/c5oyza check out the galley if you may |
| 15:50.12 | Eulex | Drakeson, you can't, as apt doesn't have enough info to be able to know that package libfoo-dev is the -dev package of libfoo |
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| 15:50.12 | themill | DarkUranium: etch? lenny? ...? |
| 15:50.21 | DarkUranium | themill: 5.0 |
| 15:50.23 | Eulex | DarkUranium, what sound card? |
| 15:50.35 | themill | Agiofws: wrong channel |
| 15:50.36 | DarkUranium | integrated, nForce 4 chipset |
| 15:50.47 | DarkUranium | the output is through optical |
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| 15:51.04 | Eulex | did you try a normal 3.5mm output? |
| 15:51.12 | Stanlin | so if i buy 1 exabyte hard drive, ill need to compile the ext4 support |
| 15:51.26 | zzattack2 | where do you buy that anyway |
| 15:51.37 | Eulex | judd kconfig EXT4 --release lenny |
| 15:51.39 | judd | Eulex: Searching for 'EXT4' in lenny kernel config gives EXT4DEV_FS=m EXT4DEV_FS_XATTR=y EXT4DEV_FS_POSIX_ACL=y EXT4DEV_FS_SECURITY=y. |
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| 15:54.06 | Stanlin | zzattack2: no, just looks like its the only real advantage of ext4 |
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| 15:55.08 | Drakeson | Eulex: I see, thanks. |
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| 15:55.36 | Eulex | Stanlin, speed, too |
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| 15:56.11 | Drakeson | hmmm, imagine package foo. Can I find all the packages that share the same source package as foo? |
| 15:56.20 | Stanlin | is there |
| 15:56.37 | Stanlin | any way to transform my EXT3 LVMs to EXT4? |
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| 15:57.43 | Stanlin | why the Debian 5 Netinstall doesnt show EXT4 in the partition manager? |
| 15:58.01 | Eulex | Drakeson, yes. it's a field of the package description. |
| 15:58.11 | themill | Drakeson: apt-cache showsrc foo | grep Binary |
| 15:58.43 | Eulex | Stanlin, lenny doesn't have a new enough kernel for ext4 support to be considered stable. |
| 15:59.50 | Drakeson | thanks |
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| 16:00.23 | Stanlin | Eulex: lenny is stable, right? if true, what netinstall does support ext4? |
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| 16:01.18 | Stanlin | Eulex: im doing a network install via Pxe |
| 16:01.57 | Drakeson | are there bindings to work on package information in java or python? (for instance, I want to do custom searches on the apt-cache database) |
| 16:02.21 | Eulex | Stanlin, it is likely that none does. but you're free to upgrade your filesystem afterwards, or convert it in some other way (create a new fs and copy everything over or something) |
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| 16:02.33 | themill | Drakeson: there's a python-apt library. |
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| 16:02.49 | Drakeson | cool, thanks |
| 16:03.49 | themill | wonders if leaving ext4 out is just a suitable "resourcefulness" barrier in the usual sort of iyhtays sense. |
| 16:04.03 | Stanlin | Eulex: thanks for the explanation, i guess i will wait until exabyte hard drives comes out before using ext4 |
| 16:04.08 | Rienzilla | :) |
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| 16:04.44 | Eulex | Stanlin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 |
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| 16:12.25 | muddd | know where i can find someone to chat to about smoothwall? |
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| 16:18.28 | jester45 | muddd, maybe smoothwall ? |
| 16:18.30 | jester45 | #smoothwall * |
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| 16:19.16 | muddd | doh ty |
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| 16:20.22 | megatog615 | anyone using debian sid on a laptop right now? |
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| 16:21.05 | dmarkey | can anyone give me any pointer with setting up dovecot deliver with exim on debian? the generic instructions dont work |
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| 16:23.00 | johndoe | how can i see all the different packages that are available to me with aptitude? (or how can i choose a different version to be installed) |
| 16:23.41 | jester45 | !apt-pinning |
| 16:23.41 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
| 16:23.55 | johndoe | thanks |
| 16:24.12 | megatog615 | my synaptics touchpad doesnt work anymore in sid |
| 16:24.57 | Stanlin | Eulex: what is better |
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| 16:25.42 | Eulex | Stanlin, better is subjective |
| 16:25.43 | Stanlin | Eulex: sorry, what is the latest kernel ? 2.6.686 or 2.6.26-1-686 ? |
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| 16:26.15 | megatog615 | anyone else have my problem? |
| 16:26.24 | Eulex | Stanlin, do you mean 2.6-686? that one is a metapackage to the kernel currently considered stable in the debian release you're running. |
| 16:26.24 | johndoe | Stanlin: the latest stable kernel is 2.8.28.8 |
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| 16:26.43 | Stanlin | eulex yeah, 2.6.686 |
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| 16:26.55 | SQlvpapir_ | can any of you recommend a pci x1 wifi adaptor that features good support under linux? |
| 16:27.19 | Stanlin | my atheros works badly under linux |
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| 16:28.39 | SQlvpapir_ | my acx100 is a pain too (and I'd like the pci slot for a 2nd dvb card) so I'd like to swap it out for something that just works |
| 16:29.04 | johndoe | Stanlin: do a lspci | grep -i atheros |
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| 16:29.22 | megatog615 | waves hands |
| 16:29.32 | megatog615 | anyone??? |
| 16:29.54 | adb | !unstable |
| 16:29.54 | dpkg | methinks unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq><apt-listbugs><apt-listchanges>. |
| 16:30.00 | at0m|c | megatog615: wave faster |
| 16:30.12 | megatog615 | its not even in /proc/bus/input/devices |
| 16:30.18 | megatog615 | waves faster |
| 16:30.25 | muddd | its hiding in dev/null |
| 16:30.34 | jester45 | well maybe its module isnt loading |
| 16:30.35 | jamon | megatog615: tbh, if using sid, i'd expect to be able to fix whatever problems i encounter |
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| 16:30.50 | at0m|c | megatog615: you didn't disable it using the fn keys? |
| 16:31.02 | megatog615 | at0m|c: no such key function, lol |
| 16:31.05 | Carry | help: t61p hibernate/resume works suspend/resume no resume.. |
| 16:31.08 | Carry | thinkpad |
| 16:31.16 | megatog615 | pretty old laptop |
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| 16:37.15 | Carry | old? :) |
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| 16:37.15 | megatog615 | yes, a dell inspiron 2650 |
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| 16:37.16 | Carry | debian 5.0 |
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| 16:37.16 | megatog615 | Carry: suspend/resume has always been hit or miss in linux for me |
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| 16:37.16 | johndoe | whats a good, intuitive browser that works in terminal. im currently using lynx but its just annoying |
| 16:37.16 | megatog615 | elinks? |
| 16:37.16 | johndoe | k ill try it |
| 16:37.17 | Stanlin | for a laptop, is better to in the initrd all the drivers, or some specifcs only? |
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| 16:37.17 | Carry | megatog615: :( |
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| 16:37.17 | Carry | much time testing... |
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| 16:39.22 | megatog615 | Carry: ? |
| 16:40.00 | megatog615 | oh |
| 16:40.01 | megatog615 | wow |
| 16:40.07 | megatog615 | my touchpad magically works again |
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| 16:40.13 | johndoe | haha |
| 16:40.32 | megatog615 | sorry for wasting anybody's time |
| 16:40.33 | Stanlin | sounds like you forgot to ... touch it |
| 16:40.46 | megatog615 | Stanlin: yeah she gets lonely every once in a while... |
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| 16:42.03 | Stanlin | what is the package name for join to a wep wifi? |
| 16:42.11 | megatog615 | um |
| 16:42.17 | megatog615 | have you tried network-manager |
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| 16:42.45 | Stanlin | i dont have gui yet |
| 16:42.46 | megatog615 | works great, it even switches over to ethernet when you plug in ethernet and doesnt drop your connection |
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| 16:43.06 | Stanlin | not really, its bugged, doesnt support wpa |
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| 16:43.39 | megatog615 | huh? |
| 16:43.46 | megatog615 | i am connected to a wpa connection right now |
| 16:44.17 | Stanlin | let me see |
| 16:45.07 | Stanlin | gnome? |
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| 16:46.18 | megatog615 | yeah |
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| 16:47.56 | Stanlin | how to install gnome base? |
| 16:48.06 | Stanlin | i mean the basic files, not the full bunch of |
| 16:48.27 | megatog615 | gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 16:48.50 | megatog615 | there really is no basic gnome install |
| 16:49.11 | Stanlin | ok installing then.. |
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| 16:49.21 | Stanlin | 10 mins to go |
| 16:49.24 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.27 | Stanlin | 5 mins... |
| 16:49.36 | Stanlin | cancelling |
| 16:49.38 | Stanlin | thank you adb |
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| 16:49.45 | adb | np |
| 16:50.38 | Brian17 | is there a way to get kde 4 on lenny |
| 16:50.40 | Stanlin | starting |
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| 16:51.48 | Stanlin | finished.. and ill start gnome and look for that applet |
| 16:51.48 | adb | Brian17: nope |
| 16:51.49 | megatog615 | i usually never use kde4 for more than 10 minutes... |
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| 16:52.32 | Stanlin | megatog615: ok im in gnome, where is that plugin? |
| 16:52.33 | flokuehn | how do i add the gpg key for a new source? |
| 16:53.30 | Brian17 | are kde and gnome equally supported on debian |
| 16:53.41 | Brian17 | are there any drawbacks to debian 64 bit |
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| 16:55.11 | flokuehn | or better: where do i have to add the key for the new source? |
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| 16:55.40 | adb | take an example from here http://cmrg.fifthhorseman.net/wiki/apt/importing-keys |
| 16:55.51 | flokuehn | adb: thank you |
| 16:56.13 | adb | np |
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| 16:56.40 | Vinterbound | Hello, I have installed Debian 5.0 on my machine with an ATI Radeon X1300 video card and an LG Flatron 776FM monitor, the first time I booted Debian it says X can't start, and gives me this error: http://pastebin.com/m2bdceb1d |
| 16:57.40 | Vinterbound | I am currently not in Debian because I couldn't get X or Gnome to start, so I am on Windows. please help? |
| 16:58.05 | adb | !ati |
| 16:58.05 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>. and <radeon vs radeonhd> |
| 16:58.37 | adb | !tell Vinterbound about radeonhd |
| 16:59.46 | Vinterbound | I don't understand what I should do with this info. I don't know very much about Linux and I didn't change anything after I installed Debian |
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| 17:01.00 | hept_ | is the routing logic considered part of the Link layer (DoD)? |
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| 17:01.42 | OldMonk | network layer usually |
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| 17:02.01 | hepta | ok |
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| 17:03.42 | Brian17 | is there any reason why i should use debian 32 bit over debian 64 bit |
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| 17:04.08 | megatog615 | Stanlin: nm-applet |
| 17:04.28 | zinx | friends don't let friends use network-manager |
| 17:04.32 | flokuehn | adb: thanks a lot. it worked out. learned a new thing |
| 17:04.44 | OldMonk | Brian17: if you use binary-only stuff then yes |
| 17:04.46 | Carry | megatog615: quirks testing.. |
| 17:05.00 | Brian17 | is there flash on 64 bit? |
| 17:05.08 | adb | flokuehn: you are welcome |
| 17:05.31 | zinx | Brian17: yes |
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| 17:05.46 | zinx | there's also a number of 32-bit libraries for binary-only stuff, fwiw |
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| 17:06.39 | OldMonk | also, some of the more obscure software may be more easily available in 32- than 64-bit packages |
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| 17:07.26 | zinx | only binary-only stuff... |
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| 17:09.47 | noppe | debconf crashed while updating via synaptic. now synaptic doesn't continue to install the rest of the packages, and i also can't abort, so kill -9 seems to be my only option. what to do? |
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| 17:10.15 | megatog615 | noppe: kill -9 |
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| 17:10.32 | megatog615 | sometimes we have to resort to nuclear weapons |
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| 17:11.41 | arcnewuss | what is the equivalent of .gnomerc |
| 17:11.55 | phogg | arcnewuss: equivalent for what? |
| 17:12.34 | arcnewuss | i want to be able to use gnome utilities: automount usb and such within dwm |
| 17:12.58 | arcnewuss | where would i put this export WINDOW_MANAGER=dwm |
| 17:13.25 | phogg | arcnewuss: you want to use the DWM window manage as your WM for gnome? |
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| 17:13.57 | arcnewuss | no i use dwm and want some gnome features within it |
| 17:14.16 | phogg | this was easier in gnome 1.x, where it was done in the control panel... silly gnome devs |
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| 17:14.29 | phogg | arcnewuss: you realize that setting GNOME to use DWM as the WM wont do that, right? |
| 17:15.14 | arcnewuss | i just want to be able to use nautilus witin dwm |
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| 17:15.50 | arcnewuss | down if i run nautilus it loads the desktop bg and icons, bu i just wanna nautilus window |
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| 17:15.52 | plsd | When I do "locale" in terminal I get a list where everything is "en_US.UTF-8", how do I change these to something else? I want the language to be en_us.UTF-8 but the rest changed. |
| 17:15.53 | phogg | arcnewuss: Is that all? Just run it, it should just work |
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| 17:16.10 | phogg | arcnewuss: that's a nautilus setting (in gconf). Tell it not to do the whole desktop shell |
| 17:17.06 | arcnewuss | settings are in .gconf? |
| 17:17.12 | phogg | arcnewuss: nautilus --no-desktop also does that |
| 17:17.23 | leon2k | hi! i am using trucrypt version 6.1a with gui and i got the problem that all my crypted ntfs drives are mounted as read-only . Does anyone have an suggestions how i can change this ? |
| 17:17.26 | phogg | arcnewuss: no, gconf-editor |
| 17:17.46 | arcnewuss | i'll fiddle with that thanks |
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| 17:20.41 | Dionis | hello |
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| 17:20.59 | Dionis | i have a problem with debian v4r6 |
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| 17:22.30 | Stanlin | what is the name of the applet |
| 17:22.37 | Stanlin | for gnome wifi ? |
| 17:22.58 | pobega | nm-applet |
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| 17:23.41 | Dionis | i've installed debian v4r6, then after reboot after the textmessages i see only black screen |
| 17:24.24 | Dionis | it looks like monitor is turned off |
| 17:24.28 | Brian17 | how do i know if i am installing debian on a primary partition |
| 17:25.19 | Dionis | but when i push the power off button, system is shutting down ok |
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| 17:27.08 | adb | Brian17: cat /etc/fstab |
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| 17:27.25 | adb | Dionis: no login promt ? |
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| 17:28.11 | Dionis | no |
| 17:29.07 | Dionis | grub window, boot up messages (text) and black screen |
| 17:30.17 | adb | no messages faild to enter in X ? |
| 17:30.26 | Dionis | no |
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| 17:30.51 | adb | no extermal monitor attached ? |
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| 17:31.07 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.09 | Dionis | during the installation process i've set only 1280x960 screen resolution |
| 17:31.21 | adb | to hight |
| 17:31.29 | SQlvpapir | does xsane provide support for network devices that is not shared bye a xsane backend? like the hp multifunctional printer/scanner/fax machines |
| 17:31.46 | Dionis | what is external monitor? |
| 17:31.57 | adb | an another monitor |
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| 17:32.19 | adb | i.e for laptop |
| 17:32.23 | Dionis | no i have only one monitor |
| 17:33.01 | Dionis | i use for PC, but not a laptop |
| 17:34.19 | Dionis | how can i change the screen resolution? |
| 17:34.27 | adb | tried to connect it from other PC by |
| 17:34.35 | adb | ip address |
| 17:34.49 | adb | ? |
| 17:34.51 | Dionis | no |
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| 17:35.12 | Dionis | are you talking about ping? |
| 17:35.26 | adb | ping + ssh |
| 17:35.45 | Dionis | no i didn't |
| 17:36.01 | adb | if ssh is installed sure |
| 17:36.08 | Ace2017_- | Is there a single command for installing debug for everything installed in the system? maybe setting debug=on in some config will auto-install debug data when packages are installed? |
| 17:36.11 | Ace2017_- | !debug |
| 17:36.11 | dpkg | DeBuggers $1 |
| 17:37.20 | Dionis | actaully i i'ven't use ssh never before |
| 17:37.43 | adb | may ping it ? |
| 17:38.26 | Dionis | i can try |
| 17:38.36 | adb | ssh ip_address |
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| 17:39.20 | scgtrp | can someone help me get 3d acceleration working on my laptop? it has a rage mobility video adapter, and the internet tells me it has 3d acceleration but i can't get it to work. |
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| 17:39.35 | scgtrp | here's my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.ca/1368200 |
| 17:39.53 | Dionis | i don't have linux on other PC, i have only windows, so i can tri to ping it only |
| 17:40.22 | Dionis | i will be back soon |
| 17:40.59 | TikiKai | Dionis --> Download and use putty so you can SSH into your linux box |
| 17:41.00 | adb | i don't know , maybe there is a ssh for win |
| 17:41.07 | TikiKai | putty.exe |
| 17:41.08 | xingu | scgtrp: not really my playground, but take a look at ... |
| 17:41.15 | xingu | !tell scgtrp -about fglrx |
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| 17:42.43 | Stanlin | why nm-applet is not showing the wifi card? |
| 17:42.44 | scgtrp | xingu, and the radeon driver will work on something as ancient as a rage mobility? |
| 17:43.01 | johndoe | how do i force aptitude to just install the package i specify so he doesnt complain about any dependencies |
| 17:43.39 | adb | not recommended ... |
| 17:43.47 | Supaplex | it's redhat mentality |
| 17:43.50 | johndoe | thats not what i asked |
| 17:43.53 | xingu | scgtrp: as I said not really my playground; about all I can really help with is that 3d on ati is likely to mean fglrx |
| 17:43.57 | xand | grrr |
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| 17:44.38 | johndoe | adb: can you tell me how to do it |
| 17:44.50 | scgtrp | hm. dpkg tells me 'radeon' should work. brb, xorg restart |
| 17:44.53 | adb | i dunno |
| 17:44.55 | xand | how can I make the intel 3949 wireless card's on/off switch work? it'll switch it off, but not on again... only a problem in recent kernels, maybe fixed in more-recent ones than lenny |
| 17:44.56 | at0m|c | johndoe: better try and resolve the conflicts/dependencies.. try googling the required dependencies and their versions |
| 17:45.20 | at0m|c | johndoe: if you dont know how, you shouldn't be skipping these warnings |
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| 17:46.07 | Ace2017_- | johndoe: where is this package from? |
| 17:46.49 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm trying to copy a file from a hdd to another, but it failed saying "No space left on device", where there's more than 100GB free. The file has 9GB and it failed at a size bigger than 4GB (I though this could have been a boundary problem but it doesn't look like it since it went over the 4GB) |
| 17:46.56 | Dionis | adb: pin is ok |
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| 17:46.56 | xand | (modprobe -r iwl3945 && modprobe iwl3945 fixes it) |
| 17:47.04 | Dionis | ping |
| 17:47.14 | Stanlin | !atheros |
| 17:47.14 | dpkg | Atheros Communications is a developer of semiconductors. Ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k> for stable wireless chipset drivers; <ar9170> or <otus> for wireless drivers under development. The <madwifi> driver is not available post-Lenny. Ask me about <atl1>, <atl2> or <atl1e> for Ethernet adapter drivers. |
| 17:47.21 | at0m|c | monkey_d_luffy: what is the destination filesystem? |
| 17:47.25 | Stanlin | !ath5k |
| 17:47.26 | dpkg | methinks ath5k is a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 5xxx wireless LAN chipsets. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.24. See also <wireless tree>. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. For 802.11n device support, ask me about <ath9k>. |
| 17:47.31 | phlux | hmmm |
| 17:47.36 | monkey_d_luffy | at0m|c: they are both ext3, maybe some mount flag? |
| 17:47.36 | xand | !iwl3945 |
| 17:47.36 | dpkg | iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets for etchnhalf and lenny onwards. Add <non-free sources>, then "aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi". "modprobe iwl3945" or "modprobe iwl4965" depending on your device's chipset. See http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi (particularly if switching from ipw3945). See also <wmaster0> <wireless tree> <iwlwifi etch> <iwlagn>. #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net |
| 17:47.40 | nayx | xingu: ancient rage mobility will fail with fglrx, however xserver-xorg-video-ati does which acts like a wrapper and auto selects the proper driver. thats the xserver-xorg-video-r128 in your case |
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| 17:47.51 | Vinterbound | Hello, I installed Debian 5.0 on my machine with ATI Radeon X1300 video card and LG Flatron 776FM monitor, I didn't change anything, just after I reboot after the installation it says X can't start and here's my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/m344a6362 |
| 17:47.54 | phlux | I'm on lenny, but I don't have 5.0 |
| 17:47.57 | at0m|c | monkey_d_luffy: hm, weird indeed - and both mounted locally right? |
| 17:47.59 | Dionis | and also after the boot up mesages (text) i've heard one beep signal |
| 17:48.01 | phlux | how can I upgrade? :\ |
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| 17:48.06 | monkey_d_luffy | at0m|c: yes |
| 17:48.07 | adb | Dionis> 18:40:42] <TikiKai> Dionis --> Download and use putty |
| 17:48.26 | at0m|c | phlux: read topic, or /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 17:48.43 | phlux | I'm not using etch, though :o |
| 17:49.03 | Dionis | ok, i will do it |
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| 17:49.17 | johndoe | Ace2017_-: im trying to install nvidia drivers |
| 17:49.28 | Dionis | thanks |
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| 17:49.38 | johndoe | but the stable ones arent compatible with the kernel im currently using (2.6.28.8) |
| 17:49.55 | Ace2017_- | johndoe: where did you get 2.6.28.8? |
| 17:50.02 | johndoe | kernel.org |
| 17:50.03 | adb | (2.6.28.8) is not debian |
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| 17:50.17 | Ace2017_- | johndoe: you compiled it yourself? |
| 17:50.19 | monkey_d_luffy | at0m|c: this may be some weird mount issue, in the sense of: mount VS. kde automount... df -h doesn't show me the device, while kde does :s |
| 17:50.21 | johndoe | yes |
| 17:50.39 | monkey_d_luffy | I just formated the device, so it's not in fstab yet |
| 17:50.40 | Ace2017_- | i think you can use module assistant to install nvidia drivers |
| 17:50.44 | Ace2017_- | sudo m-a a-i nvidia |
| 17:50.50 | at0m|c | monkey_d_luffy: ah, maybe yes... tried putting it in fstab then remount? |
| 17:50.51 | johndoe | it fails |
| 17:51.06 | adb | on .26 ? |
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| 17:51.21 | Ace2017_- | johndoe: do you have nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev installed? |
| 17:51.23 | at0m|c | monkey_d_luffy: or at least do a manual mount |
| 17:51.26 | johndoe | yes |
| 17:51.49 | johndoe | the sources simply arent compatible with the newer kernels |
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| 17:52.14 | monkey_d_luffy | at0m|c: I have edited my fstab... how do I "refresh" my system? |
| 17:52.16 | xingu | xand: from my understanding - the 3945 rfkill switch switches off the MAC (ie radio), it's not a sensor the driver polls |
| 17:52.21 | johndoe | and i needed the newer kernel for its atheros support |
| 17:52.50 | xingu | xand: so either way after turning it back off (nonkilled posn) you need the driver to reinit; modprobe -r/ modprobe is the right course of action in this instance |
| 17:52.54 | Ace2017_- | johndoe: well unstable has nvidia version 180.29-1 which should work ok |
| 17:52.59 | at0m|c | monkey_d_luffy: "eject" it from kde icon, then mount /fstab/path/ |
| 17:53.26 | johndoe | Ace2017_-: yes :) |
| 17:53.46 | xand | xingu: yes well... it used to work fine in 2.6.24 |
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| 17:54.25 | Ace2017_- | johndoe: did the error log give any indication as to what is wrong? maybe something about the kernel config used is bad |
| 17:54.49 | adb | xand: work fine in 2.6.26 too |
| 17:55.18 | xand | adb: not in 2.6.26-1 |
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| 17:55.27 | adb | yes it do |
| 17:55.59 | adb | only find how to switch to on |
| 17:56.16 | xand | what? |
| 17:57.28 | millertime_018 | can anyone help me install e17? |
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| 17:57.37 | millertime_018 | i know this isn't your area... you guys are with debian |
| 17:57.42 | millertime_018 | i'm putting it on my ubuntu machine |
| 17:57.52 | adb | xand: wireless card's on/off switch |
| 17:57.53 | n3kl_ | dood, this is not #ubuntu |
| 17:57.56 | millertime_018 | i keep getting errors while running the easy_e17.sh |
| 17:57.58 | at0m|c | millertime_018: #ubuntu |
| 17:58.02 | xand | adb: if it worked I wouldh't be asking |
| 17:58.20 | adb | now is on ? |
| 17:58.37 | xand | I don't understand you |
| 17:58.46 | Ace2017_- | millertime_018: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop-in-ubuntu.html |
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| 17:59.14 | millertime_018 | Ace2017_-I've seen that add |
| 17:59.16 | millertime_018 | its old |
| 17:59.25 | ward- | is there a debian livecd? and if tehre is, will it work for a system with only 128 mb ram? |
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| 17:59.35 | millertime_018 | there a script that i'm using called easy_e17.sh |
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| 17:59.49 | unop | !tell ward- about live |
| 17:59.56 | ward- | ty unop |
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| 18:00.04 | medecau | can someone point me to a source where iso to flash is explained? i am trying to get an iso to boot from usb |
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| 18:00.32 | ward- | unop, do you happen to know if it works for 128mb systems? |
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| 18:01.05 | unop | ward-, i believe there is an XFCE variant that should be ok for 128mb systems. |
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| 18:01.13 | at0m|c | medecau: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
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| 18:01.25 | unop | ward-, the gnome one would probably struggle - but still boot. |
| 18:01.27 | ward- | unop ah ok thanx |
| 18:01.35 | monkey_d_luffy | at0m|c: something isn't working :( my drive doesn't show up in kde system:/media, but if I go through my mount point it shows up... if I mount it as a "sudo user" the directory I created as root (and then chown to user) doesn't show up :-/ |
| 18:01.41 | jpinx | johndoe: read up man aptitude - but it's not recommended |
| 18:01.44 | medecau | at0m|c: i am not trying to do a usb for debian, just doing it WITH debian |
| 18:02.11 | ward- | unop, i think i'll jsut remove the drive then and dd my .img to it like that |
| 18:02.13 | monkey_d_luffy | sudo mount /dev/hda1 /vol_seagate160GB/ -t ext3 <- do I need to use some flags? |
| 18:02.20 | medecau | the system i am trying to get on the usb only seems to have ISOs |
| 18:02.24 | ward- | unop, thanx |
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| 18:02.33 | johndoe | jpinx: thanks, its giving me problems because i installed a dependency manually |
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| 18:03.07 | jpinx | johndoe: try aptitude purge and then aptitude install correctly |
| 18:03.27 | at0m|c | hoh! time to go home! :)) |
| 18:03.45 | jpinx | johndoe: though I don't know why a manual install would cause trouble - I did that for Skype without issues |
| 18:04.21 | DarkGnome | â®hmm |
| 18:04.31 | DarkGnome | âhmm |
| 18:04.40 | johndoe | jpinx: beats me |
| 18:04.46 | jpinx | johndoe: the way I did it was to dpkg -i the package and then aptitude install the dependencies |
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| 18:06.12 | DarkGnome | was it a non-free dependency |
| 18:06.53 | johndoe | jpinx: thats what i though, but i cant find the .deb file |
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| 18:07.04 | jpinx | DarkGnome: even if it's non-free it will be ok if you install with aptitude |
| 18:07.12 | johndoe | if theres a way to just download the .deb file |
| 18:07.17 | monkey_d_luffy | Any reason for my newly formated and mounted HDD not being shown in system:/media ? |
| 18:07.27 | DarkGnome | because by default debian dosent have non-free added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 18:07.30 | jpinx | johndoe: what was the original package |
| 18:07.42 | johndoe | jpinx: nvidia-glx |
| 18:07.52 | johndoe | jpinx: i need the unstable one for amd64 |
| 18:07.55 | plsd | How do I change locale to the following: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_DK.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_DK.UTF-8" Right now everything is "en_US.UTF-8". I tried pasting that in /etc/environment but when doing "locale" in terminal I'm still getting the full list as "en_US.UTF-8" |
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| 18:08.30 | DarkGnome | monkey_d_luffy: ok is it formated NTFS |
| 18:08.56 | jpinx | johndoe: tht'sa straighforward nonfree install |
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| 18:09.14 | keith4_ | i rolled my own version of a debian package. how do I prevent apt/dpkg from ever upgrading it again? |
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| 18:09.34 | jpinx | aptitude show is telling the dependencies - you just need non-free in your sources.list |
| 18:09.49 | monkey_d_luffy | DarkGnome: formated using gparted to ext3 |
| 18:10.04 | DarkGnome | ok then you need to mount the drive |
| 18:10.12 | Stanlin | why nm-applet is not showing the wifi card? |
| 18:10.14 | DarkGnome | or have it auto mount |
| 18:10.26 | jpinx | johndoe: so I would aptitude purge <whatever you installed by hand> , add the relevant non-free, and then aptitude install nvidia-glx |
| 18:10.41 | johndoe | k |
| 18:11.05 | DarkGnome | monkey_d_luffy: is it a sata drive or a ide drive |
| 18:11.29 | johndoe | keith4_: aptitude hold <package> |
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| 18:11.54 | monkey_d_luffy | DarkGnome: explicit mount doesn't make any difference... auto-mount? how? yes, it's an IDE drive, PATA |
| 18:12.28 | jpinx | keith4_: maybe by pinning |
| 18:13.12 | keith4_ | johndoe, not using aptitude |
| 18:13.17 | keith4_ | jpinx, okay, good idea |
| 18:13.17 | johndoe | apt-get? |
| 18:13.31 | DarkGnome | monkey_d_luffy: ok go to your termenal and type mkdir /mnt/hda1 & mount -t /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 |
| 18:13.36 | jpinx | monkey_d_luffy: auto mount by adding a line for it is /etc/fstab |
| 18:13.36 | johndoe | keith4_: i think it doesnt matter, since they're all frontends |
| 18:13.45 | DarkGnome | terminal ** |
| 18:14.00 | keith4_ | johndoe, not a great idea to mix and match aptitude with apt-get, afaik |
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| 18:14.23 | jpinx | keith4_ aptitude is the latest ad greatest |
| 18:14.26 | n3kl_ | What is famd and why is it in lenny? |
| 18:14.32 | jpinx | looks after dependencies much better |
| 18:14.40 | sundaymorning | is there a way to use aptitude or apt-get to install some software only for one particular user? without the need of being root. |
| 18:14.57 | DarkGnome | famd - The File Alteration Monitor (FAM) daemon |
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| 18:15.02 | n3kl_ | I can read the manpage just fine, but what is the reason its in lenny? |
| 18:15.04 | DarkGnome | http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man8/famd.8.php |
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| 18:15.16 | jpinx | sundaymorning: do you want one user to be able to install it or to use it? |
| 18:15.28 | jpinx | sundaymorning: or both? |
| 18:15.43 | xingu | n3kl_: afaik gnome uses it a bit |
| 18:16.04 | n3kl_ | I just don't know why I need a daemon to tell me my files have been changed, I was the who changed them |
| 18:16.18 | n3kl_ | xingu: yeah, but its also on my servers that don't have X |
| 18:16.21 | DarkGnome | lol |
| 18:16.21 | sundaymorning | I want to install something on my home directory and use it |
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| 18:16.26 | monkey_d_luffy | DarkGnome and jpinx: I have done that... well, mount was with "-t ext3" This is not a "problem"... if it works fine on my next reboot and I keep my data :p Just wanted to know what's wrong... |
| 18:16.34 | xingu | introduces n3kl to apt-cache rdepends --installed |
| 18:16.37 | sundaymorning | without having to compile it |
| 18:16.41 | monkey_d_luffy | (or at least I think this is not a problem) |
| 18:17.06 | jpinx | monkey_d_luffy: that is mounted for this sesson only |
| 18:17.30 | jpinx | monkey_d_luffy: if you want it to always be mounted during boot - add a line to /etc/fstab |
| 18:17.38 | n3kl_ | xingu: thanks for that |
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| 18:19.05 | jpinx | sundaymorning: packages get intalled into the system because they usually need dependencies, etc, so you will have to restrict use some other way |
| 18:19.47 | Vinterbound | nobody wants to help me? |
| 18:20.08 | jpinx | Vinterbound: what was your question |
| 18:20.21 | jpinx | can't be arsed to scroll back so far |
| 18:20.41 | DarkGnome | /dev/hda1 /mount/point/here ext3 defaults 1 1 <<< add that to your fstab file |
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| 18:21.22 | jpinx | DarkGnome: better to end with 0 0 incase the drive is removed some day |
| 18:21.31 | DarkGnome | true |
| 18:21.34 | DarkGnome | lol |
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| 18:21.52 | Vinterbound | I can't find the link to the log file I posted again, because now I'm on Debian in commandl line mode, and I don't know how to upload a file in command line |
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| 18:22.03 | jpinx | and add uid=1000 (or whatever) to make it rw for the user |
| 18:22.12 | DarkGnome | /dev/hda1 /mount/point/here ext3 defaults 0 0 <<< add that to your fstab file |
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| 18:23.11 | DarkGnome | you need to use /dcc commands (i think that right) |
| 18:23.14 | ajavid | hey |
| 18:23.15 | jpinx | sorry Vinterbound that's not making a whole lot of sense to me |
| 18:23.23 | ajavid | whats goin' on in the world of debian |
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| 18:24.12 | RiotingPacifist3 | dpkg --set-selections < /mnt/old/pkglist && apt-get install isnt installing anything ? :s |
| 18:24.12 | dpkg | RiotingPacifist3: You are moron #1 |
| 18:24.22 | ajavid | ahahaha |
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| 18:24.35 | DarkGnome | LOL |
| 18:24.52 | adb | !tell Vinterbound about ask |
| 18:24.55 | ajavid | RiotingPacifist3, anything starting with ^*dpkg is a command |
| 18:24.57 | ajavid | in here |
| 18:24.59 | ajavid | for the bot |
| 18:25.06 | ajavid | look at my enter key go! |
| 18:25.11 | xingu | Vinterbound: http://pastebin.com/m344a6362 <-- was yours; log indicates that no viable screen modes are configured in the "Configured Monitor" screen section. |
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| 18:25.45 | xingu | Vinterbound: probably be useful for you to pastebin the corresponding /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 18:26.31 | RiotingPacifist3 | yeah i get that but that doesnt help me understand why the command the bot gave me "dpkg --set-selections < /mnt/old/pkglist && apt-get install" isnt doing anything |
| 18:26.36 | jpinx | Vinterbound: you might find the little package pastebinit useful if you are working the command line a lot |
| 18:26.45 | DarkGnome | so many problems with xorg |
| 18:26.47 | Stanlin | help! why nm-applet is not showing the wifi card? ifconfig wlan0 up works fine |
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| 18:27.22 | DarkGnome | well i would help you but i dont have a debian desktop infront of me |
| 18:27.23 | DarkGnome | lol |
| 18:27.36 | DarkGnome | i need to set one up |
| 18:27.38 | jpinx | neither |
| 18:27.38 | Stanlin | concentrate.... |
| 18:27.59 | cahoot | Stanlin: you know you must comment out all interfaces but lo in /etc/network/interfaces if you want to use n-m? |
| 18:28.19 | Stanlin | cahoot: only lo is there |
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| 18:29.39 | ajavid | Stanlin, i remember you |
| 18:29.42 | Vinterbound | http://pastebin.com/f20484e99 |
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| 18:29.59 | Vinterbound | it's blank |
| 18:30.03 | Stanlin | hi ajavid |
| 18:30.08 | lightcap | if /etc/debian_version says sqeeze/sid wtf does that mean? thought sid was unstable and squeeze was testing |
| 18:30.11 | rto | Stanlin: Are you a member of the netdev group? |
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| 18:30.39 | dury | can't install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run on debian |
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| 18:31.04 | johndoe | aptitude download nvidia-glx -> thats what i was looking for :) |
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| 18:31.23 | DarkGnome | dury: chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run |
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| 18:31.34 | DarkGnome | dury: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.29-pkg1.run |
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| 18:31.53 | johndoe | dury: sh ./NVIDIA... |
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| 18:32.02 | xingu | Vinterbound: is your screen particularly old? the odds seem good that it's a crt that doesn't support EDID |
| 18:32.07 | dury | I've got Nvidia geforce 8 8800 |
| 18:32.19 | SQlvpapir | lightcap: I believe whatever packages you have installed are marked as are mentioned in /etc/debian_version |
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| 18:32.32 | johndoe | dury: paste uname -a |
| 18:33.04 | SQlvpapir | or just type it ;) |
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| 18:33.13 | themill | dury: Use the debian way of installing the driver in a way that doesn't confuse apt/dpkg (/msg dpkg nvidia) or if you want to use the run file, ask in #nvidia |
| 18:33.30 | Vinterbound | it's not very old and it has worked with a few Linux distribution before (Fedora, OpenSUSE, and different versions of Ubuntu) |
| 18:33.34 | lightcap | SQlvpapir: so in any case, it's not lenny for sure :-) |
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| 18:34.09 | Vinterbound | dude, I think I will just try to reinstall Debian |
| 18:34.24 | adb | Vinterbound: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:34.37 | xingu | Vinterbound: ok; so my guess would be that you need to add HorizSync/ VertRefresh to the Monitor section and also a SubSection "Display"/ Modes "..."/ EndSubSection to the Screen section |
| 18:35.01 | dury | jcblack@debianbox1:~$ uname -a |
| 18:35.02 | dury | Linux debianbox1 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:35.04 | dury | jcblack@debianbox1:~$ |
| 18:35.04 | SQlvpapir | lightcap: yeah pretty much.. you should have a pretty good idea what packages you have if you did a dist-upgrade recently :) |
| 18:35.26 | lightcap | SQlvpapir: this is a hosted deb box... I told em I wanted straight 5.0 |
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| 18:35.36 | lightcap | and I got a mixed sqeeze/sid instance |
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| 18:35.43 | vasudeva | i've got a hosted server i access only over ssh. it's running etch but i may have just mangled it. i did an apt-get upgrade (NOT dist-) and let that finish and everything seems fine, but /etc/debian_version reports 5.0, even though apt-get upgrade reports a whole bunch of packages being kept back. did i do somethign wrong? my apt sources references 'stable' not etch or lenny, and i'm afraid my install is now in a limbo state. |
| 18:35.54 | xingu | Vinterbound: it's been so long since I used the debconf front end for xorg I no longer know what it prompts you for if anything; but basically that xorg.conf you've pasted has no monitor spec and at a guess your display isn't providing them (or perhaps your xorg driver isn't asking for 'em) |
| 18:35.59 | SQlvpapir | if you install just a single package marked sid (some in testing are not rebuild only tagged squeeze but just moved over) it adds it to the file iiuc |
| 18:36.02 | dury | johndoe: then |
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| 18:36.32 | Stanlin | cahoot: not working |
| 18:36.32 | arcnewuss | how can i easily manage the modules being loaded at boot |
| 18:36.37 | jpinx | vasudeva: you have mangled it |
| 18:36.48 | SQlvpapir | arcnewuss: modules.conf and the blacklist conf |
| 18:36.58 | vasudeva | jpinx: aw crap |
| 18:37.06 | jpinx | vasudeva: probably best to do the upgrade to lenny properly now |
| 18:37.06 | arcnewuss | i'll google that thanks |
| 18:37.25 | vasudeva | jpinx: what did i do wrong? should apt sources have listed 'etch' instead of 'stable'? |
| 18:37.40 | jpinx | vasudeva: first - change your sources.list to read the distribution name - not just stable |
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| 18:38.07 | johndoe | dury: are you able to run "sh ./NVIDIA...." ? |
| 18:38.13 | jpinx | !tell vasudeva about etch->lenny |
| 18:38.30 | vasudeva | jpinx: yeah, checked dpkg already |
| 18:38.41 | Vinterbound | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.46 | jpinx | vasudeva: you are probably better to go on with the upgrade and sort out any wrikles after |
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| 18:39.19 | vasudeva | jpinx: the release notes mention a whole slew of issues that may affect me on reboot, and since this server is hosted remotely, it'll cost me lots if it hangs, cause i'll need the hoster to get in there and fix it |
| 18:39.19 | jpinx | vasudeva: ok - follow those instructions carefully - - they really do work if you follow them |
| 18:39.41 | vasudeva | jpinx: i didn't actually want to upgrade to lenny, for that reason -- was hoping just to update etch |
| 18:39.53 | jpinx | vasudeva: is it a VPS? |
| 18:40.00 | vasudeva | jpinx: no, dedicated server |
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| 18:40.17 | jpinx | vasudeva: cool - that's one less problem;) |
| 18:40.22 | xingu | Vinterbound: try adding to Section "Monitor": HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0/ VertRefesh 60.0 |
| 18:40.25 | SQlvpapir | vasudeva: you've gotta take your chances if you want a stable state |
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| 18:40.39 | xingu | vinc456: ... two lines; and then in section screen... |
| 18:40.48 | xingu | s/vinc456/Vinterbound/ |
| 18:40.53 | vasudeva | SQlvpapir: well, i do want stable. i guess i thought it was possible to update etch without turning it into lenny. |
| 18:41.05 | jpinx | vasudeva: I would still upgrade to lenny - it has proved to be a good upgrade for me - locally and remotely |
| 18:41.11 | xingu | Vinterbound: SebSection "Display" / Modes "1024x768" / EndSubSection |
| 18:41.32 | xingu | Vinterbound: err s/SebSection/SubSection/ |
| 18:41.39 | jpinx | vasudeva: I had to do it remotely too - and the reboot was a nail-bighter - but it "just worked" (tm) |
| 18:42.14 | vasudeva | jpinx: is it possible to just stay at etch? i don't particularly need to dist-upgrade. i just wanted a fresh etch. |
| 18:42.15 | rafaelscj | hello!, where can I found information about playing mp3s? |
| 18:42.19 | xingu | Vinterbound: nb it'd be better to get the exact refresh spec for your monitor than just copy those values blindly |
| 18:42.24 | jpinx | vasudeva: rolling back is not an option even when it's a clean install |
| 18:42.44 | Stanlin | cahoot: not working |
| 18:42.49 | vasudeva | jpinx: well what did i do wrong? i just did an apt-get upgrade. not dist-upgrade. that should have just updated etch, right? |
| 18:42.54 | arcnewuss | say i put sql module in blacklist can i start it after boot |
| 18:43.13 | arcnewuss | with /etc/init.d/postgresql start |
| 18:43.14 | jpinx | vasudeva: if you have hd space available, you could re-partitiona nd install etch fresh you might be able to |
| 18:43.41 | cahoot | Stanlin: well I was just pointing out a possible source of trouble |
| 18:43.46 | jpinx | vasudeva: what you did wrong was to have "stable" instead of "etch" in sources.list |
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| 18:43.57 | vasudeva | jpinx: no way, i've only got the one box and it's running production sites on it, no way i'm in a position to do that level of surgery |
| 18:44.08 | cahoot | Stanlin: personally I avoid n-m |
| 18:44.13 | vasudeva | jpinx: that's what i was afraid of. |
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| 18:44.26 | dury | johndoe: it says to do it without X server |
| 18:44.41 | jpinx | vasudeva: learn well from this - it's a very easy trap to fall into and is a nightmare to fix |
| 18:45.19 | jpinx | vasudeva: what is your problem with finishing your upgrade to lenny? |
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| 18:45.41 | vasudeva | jpinx: i just don't need it, and don't want to take any unnecessary chances with a remote production server |
| 18:45.58 | vasudeva | jpinx: the release notes mention a bunch of things that can lock up during reboot |
| 18:46.03 | Stanlin | cahoot: how to remove nm-applet its a piece of junk |
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| 18:46.09 | jpinx | vasudeva: you have already taken those risks and the result is the position you are in now |
| 18:46.28 | vasudeva | jpinx: ok. so, the way forward is to change 'etch' references in apt sources to say 'lenny', and then fire the dist-upgrade? |
| 18:46.51 | jpinx | vasudeva: you need to assess your situation and make a decision as to retreating or going forward |
| 18:47.25 | vasudeva | jpinx: you made retreat sound impossible |
| 18:47.35 | jpinx | retreating will involve you in picking through everything by hand to make sure it is etch |
| 18:47.54 | vasudeva | i guess that sounds about as dicy as going forward |
| 18:48.01 | jpinx | but I have never seen anyone recommend a way to do that on here |
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| 18:48.08 | RiotingPacifist3 | "dpkg --set-selections < /mnt/old/pkglist" isnt doing anything ? |
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| 18:48.52 | jpinx | vasudeva: I have seen others in your position and I have never seen advise to retreat |
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| 18:49.38 | vasudeva | jpinx: ok, so the way forward is to replace 'etch' references with 'lenny' in my apt sources, and then run a dist-upgrade, right? |
| 18:49.42 | SQlvpapir | vasudeva: proceed.. there is no bigger pita than to go to an older version.. apt simply hates it |
| 18:50.08 | jpinx | vasudeva: replace "stable" with "lenny" |
| 18:51.23 | vasudeva | ah, right |
| 18:51.28 | jpinx | vasudeva: then do aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. |
| 18:51.45 | vasudeva | i've always used apt previously. should i switch to aptitude for this? |
| 18:51.59 | jpinx | vasudeva: aptitude is better |
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| 18:53.15 | Vinterbound | ok , I will try something else, thanks for your time people :) |
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| 18:54.18 | vasudeva | jpinx: ok, sounds like a plan |
| 18:54.20 | vasudeva | wish me luck |
| 18:54.37 | jpinx | good luck vasudeva :) |
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| 18:55.23 | jpinx | vasudeva: don't be surprised if you have to do some of the upgrade commands more than once to resolve all the dependencies |
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| 18:56.02 | jpinx | vasudeva: I had to do about upgrade about 6 times to clear them all |
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| 18:58.03 | ajavid | hey |
| 18:58.05 | ajavid | seriously |
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| 18:58.28 | ajavid | like you know |
| 18:58.58 | vasudeva | oh god, this doesn't look good |
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| 18:59.00 | vasudeva | jpinx: http://pastebin.com/m27a39893 |
| 18:59.20 | vasudeva | libc6-i686 is 'BROKEN'? |
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| 19:01.20 | RiotingPacifist3 | dpkg --set-selections < /mnt/old/pkglist && apt-get install isnt installing anything ? :s dpkg --set-selections doesnt change what dpkg --get-selections says either |
| 19:01.20 | dpkg | RiotingPacifist3: You are moron #2 |
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| 19:01.43 | vasudeva | is that maybe just aptitude reporting the differences between my etch and lenny stuff? |
| 19:01.45 | jpinx | vasudeva: the solution is in the paste |
| 19:02.01 | jpinx | follow the instructions aptitude has given you there |
| 19:02.14 | vasudeva | jpinx: ok, so that's not necessarily a sign of doom |
| 19:02.53 | jpinx | do the stuff before you forecast doom vasudeva ;) |
| 19:03.03 | vasudeva | never used aptitude before. should i now use it to manually do the removes/installs/upgrades it recommends? |
| 19:03.06 | morsing | Hey, my BIND is still version 8 after upgrading to lenny. How do I get it to upgrade to BIND9? |
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| 19:03.33 | jpinx | vasudeva: the instructions there are clearer than anything i can type |
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| 19:04.05 | vasudeva | jpinx: so if i hit Y it'll do those steps itself? it's not clear if that's telling me "here's what you need to do before i can proceed", or "here's what aptitude will do if you let it" |
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| 19:04.39 | jpinx | morsing: aptitude install bind9 ? |
| 19:04.56 | morsing | Does nothing |
| 19:05.20 | morsing | ii bind 1:8.4.7-1 Internet Domain Name Server |
| 19:05.39 | jpinx | vasudeva: Y |
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| 19:06.12 | jpinx | morsing: do aptitude show bind9 |
| 19:06.12 | Akuw | i want to use gpg in my mails, how can i install it ? |
| 19:06.20 | _smelf_ | Akuw: apt-get? |
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| 19:06.36 | gnumm | hi |
| 19:06.39 | _smelf_ | anyway, just updated an old etch system to lenny; whenever I run the admin-tools I |
| 19:06.44 | _smelf_ | get the message ""The platform you are running is not supported by this tool" |
| 19:06.51 | _smelf_ | anyone else? |
| 19:07.00 | gnumm | when i want a snappy debian, would you recommand gnome or kde ? (no other DE or WM) |
| 19:07.05 | _smelf_ | gnumm: FLUXBOX |
| 19:07.12 | Akuw | _smef: ok, apt-get ??? |
| 19:07.13 | morsing | i bind - Internet Domain Name Server |
| 19:07.13 | morsing | p bind9 - Internet Domain Name Server |
| 19:07.15 | _smelf_ | oh... nvm. Gnome is the faster of the two. |
| 19:07.17 | jpinx | gnumm: lxde |
| 19:07.31 | _smelf_ | Akuw: you can also use synaptic |
| 19:07.48 | jpinx | morsing: what does uname -a give? |
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| 19:08.02 | maligor | it's a shame there isn't a lightweight QT Desktop |
| 19:08.06 | morsing | Linux emil 2.6.22.7-emil #1 SMP Tue Sep 25 15:34:06 BST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:08.09 | maligor | lxde is pretty dreadful if you ask me |
| 19:08.11 | morsing | Why's that relevant? |
| 19:08.17 | gnumm | maligor: right! |
| 19:08.33 | Stanlin | Oh Lord!! DPKG is horrible, im trying to remove nm-applet but it wants to remove now all Gnome..... how to fix that? |
| 19:08.57 | maligor | Stanlin, you mean apt-get or aptitude |
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| 19:09.06 | testi | Which package contains R |
| 19:09.08 | Stanlin | maligor: both ways |
| 19:09.08 | maligor | dpkg doesn't do that stuff afaik |
| 19:09.08 | dpkg | maligor: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 19:09.10 | gnumm | another question |
| 19:09.14 | testi | ? |
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| 19:09.23 | gnumm | in debian is openoffice 2.4.1, the newest is 3.0.1 |
| 19:09.32 | dury | it has to do it without X server |
| 19:09.53 | gnumm | is the better MS office support backported in the debian openoffice? |
| 19:09.56 | morsing | hmm... |
| 19:09.59 | maligor | gnuanu, backports has openoffice |
| 19:10.04 | maligor | gnumm, err.. that was for you |
| 19:10.10 | testi | I have it |
| 19:10.20 | maligor | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=openoffice&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports |
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| 19:10.43 | _smelf_ | Stanlin: Exactly the same thing happened to me... downgrading doesn't really work in Debian, unfortunately, |
| 19:10.48 | _smelf_ | not as far as I know, anyway. |
| 19:11.02 | dvs | !downgrading |
| 19:11.02 | dpkg | it has been said that downgrading is something you do NOT want to do if you're not an expert. some important files might move from a package to an other during an upgrade (eg: /sbin/ldconfig moved from ldso to libc6 during potato->woody). if you downgrade to former packages that couldn't know that fact, you might lose these files (if you lost /sbin/ldconfig , no lib package can install correctly, including libc6 !). There are other problems for sure... |
| 19:11.12 | _smelf_ | So, has anyone ever solved the message "just updated an old etch system to lenny; whenever I run the admin-tools I |
| 19:11.23 | _smelf_ | (sorry, clipboard spam) |
| 19:11.37 | Stanlin | _smelf_: i didnt upgrade, i just installed nm-applet ... now i dont want it, and i cant remove it, its like a cancer |
| 19:11.54 | maligor | nm-applet shouldn't cause something like that |
| 19:11.58 | Stanlin | packaging in debian is so bugged |
| 19:12.08 | maligor | heh, no, it's rather rugged |
| 19:12.18 | gnumm | is it possible to install a newer vlc and gimp in debian...just these 2 |
| 19:12.21 | morsing | How can I do a sanity check of my system to make sure all packages are at lenny level? |
| 19:12.37 | _smelf_ | morsing: If you find out, tell me too... :-) |
| 19:12.41 | Stanlin | maligor: how to remove gnome? all gnome |
| 19:12.41 | morsing | :) |
| 19:13.00 | Stanlin | dpkg -r gnome-core |
| 19:13.00 | dpkg | removes gnome-core along with a pound of flesh from stanlin's body, then staples stanlin back up with a staple gun. |
| 19:13.09 | morsing | So it's non-trivial to upgrade BIND8 to BIND9 in lenny then... |
| 19:13.18 | dvs | !remove gnome |
| 19:13.18 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly). |
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| 19:13.24 | dvs | 1.x? |
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| 19:14.08 | _smelf_ | it has instructions for 1.x and 2.x... |
| 19:14.26 | Stanlin | mhhh what version we are? |
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| 19:14.40 | gnumm | 2# |
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| 19:15.58 | Stanlin | no wonders kde looks better |
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| 19:17.16 | ekontsevoy | Is there a GUI package installable from apt that allows users to mount volumes? I need this for my non-techie relatives - I don't want them to mess with fstab. |
| 19:18.30 | RiotingPacifist3 | hal should automount external stuff, user can be added to fstab to allow them to mount internal stuff |
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| 19:18.56 | Stanlin | I CANT believe nm-applets still there!!!, after removing gnome, aptitude remove gnome-core |
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| 19:19.12 | _smelf_ | ekontsevoy: well, you *could* set up the fstab for them, and then put shiny icons on the desktop that will call "mount /mnt/sda1" or similar. |
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| 19:19.33 | Bryan92 | i have a list with 200 lines ; all hav 78 digits; i now need to make a list with how much of these start with same 8 digits; anybody can help how to do this with grep or so? |
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| 19:20.03 | _smelf_ | Stanlin: Damn it... I know I've removed nm-applet before, but I can't remember how. |
| 19:20.14 | _smelf_ | Stanlin: I assume you tried synaptic? |
| 19:20.22 | Bryan92 | anybody cna help me? |
| 19:20.40 | _smelf_ | bryan... you might whip up a quick C program? |
| 19:20.40 | kunal113 | hello. hey is it possible to have 2 keyboard inputs into 1 debain system? |
| 19:20.50 | Stanlin | _smelf_: i will try now, i tried aptitude and apt-get , i like the text way |
| 19:21.02 | Bryan92 | _smelf_: isn't possible with a simple bash cmd? |
| 19:21.08 | _smelf_ | Bryan: looking now. |
| 19:21.10 | RiotingPacifist3 | kunal113 what do you mean? |
| 19:21.35 | Bryan92 | _smelf_: thanks |
| 19:21.37 | _smelf_ | Stanlin: I think I used both methods |
| 19:21.42 | _smelf_ | either one should work, though |
| 19:21.49 | ekontsevoy | _smelf_: hm... they keep bringing these older IDE drives and hooking them up and wondering "where does it go?"... all the time. |
| 19:22.05 | kunal113 | RiotingPacifist3: i mean as in if I have 2 terminals running on 1 system and i want 2 keyboard to be working. |
| 19:22.09 | Stanlin | its just a huge problem |
| 19:22.20 | _smelf_ | ekontsevoy: Gnome doesn't automatically mount them, like thumbdrives? |
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| 19:22.41 | _smelf_ | Bryan: sounds like you need the OPPOSITE of "tail", applied linewise... give me a minute |
| 19:22.56 | RiotingPacifist3 | kunal113: you can have 2 keyboards acting like 1 input easily, or 2 keyboards working on seperate xorgs (a bit more tricky) and then there is some fancy xorg-new-stuff to allow to keyboards on 1 screen working as 2 keyboards but i dont no much about that |
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| 19:23.13 | scx | hello |
| 19:23.23 | kunal113 | RiotingPacifist3: thanks |
| 19:23.25 | _smelf_ | Bryan: |
| 19:23.29 | scx | i use od (octal dump) |
| 19:23.30 | _smelf_ | OMG I THINK I FOUND YOUR ANSWER |
| 19:23.36 | batcoder-7 | how do you search for text within a certain directory ? |
| 19:23.37 | _smelf_ | Bryan: 'man look' |
| 19:23.40 | scx | how to get 1-byte dec values? |
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| 19:23.48 | _smelf_ | Bryan: Pretty sure that 'look' will do what you want. |
| 19:24.05 | scx | for example, to 1-byte oct i type: -c |
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| 19:24.28 | Bryan92 | _smelf_: can u explain |
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| 19:24.29 | ajavid | man |
| 19:24.31 | RiotingPacifist3 | kunal113: im not sure i answered your question, if you mean 1 screen with to xtersm/consoles then it needs fancy new stuff if you mean 2 actually ttys then i dont know how much of what i said applies as i normally work with X |
| 19:24.32 | Bryan92 | im not so good with cmd line |
| 19:24.35 | ajavid | I had no idea how much rounded corners suck |
| 19:24.39 | RiotingPacifist3 | *two |
| 19:24.54 | _smelf_ | Bryan: if you type 'man look' you will get the syntax of the' look' command -- give me one sec and I will explain the syntax also |
| 19:25.00 | ajavid | just to spread the news for those of you into synths and that use linux: http://bristol.sourceforge.net/ Vintage synth, organ and electric pianos emulator. :-P |
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| 19:25.12 | ajavid | good stuff |
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| 19:25.27 | _smelf_ | ajavid: NICE |
| 19:25.36 | _smelf_ | I've been looking for something like that for a looooooong time |
| 19:25.43 | ajavid | #music |
| 19:25.46 | ajavid | :) |
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| 19:26.47 | daedhel | hi, I want to copy everything frome a dir, exept on dir inside it. How do I do that? "cp /somedir/* /some/other/dir/" what do I add? |
| 19:26.47 | _smelf_ | BRYAN: Here you go |
| 19:27.02 | _smelf_ | Bryan: Go into a console (should be one in 'accessories') |
| 19:27.11 | _smelf_ | Bryan: Type: |
| 19:27.19 | _smelf_ | look 123456 file |
| 19:27.28 | _smelf_ | Bryan: replace 123456 with the string of digits, and file with your filename |
| 19:27.50 | _smelf_ | daedhel: looks good to me...? |
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| 19:28.48 | daedhel | _smelf_, a want to compy everything from /somedir/*, exept /somedir/not-this-dir, to /some/other/dir |
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| 19:30.06 | serfurj | anybody know if something like mairix exists for text files? mairix expects email headers and won't index files without them. |
| 19:30.19 | _smelf_ | daedhel: you couldn't just copy everything and delete the one folder afterwards, could you? :-) One sec. |
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| 19:30.51 | daedhel | _smelf_, unfortunatly, the /some/other/dir is to smalle |
| 19:30.55 | daedhel | *samll |
| 19:30.59 | daedhel | lol *small |
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| 19:31.38 | Stanlin | oh Screw this!!! Package management in debian is broken!!! just to uninstall nm-applet i need to reinstall everything |
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| 19:32.27 | maligor | Stanlin, gnome you mean? |
| 19:32.44 | Stanlin | no, i tried to remove gnome again... it wont remove it |
| 19:32.45 | maligor | you can just mark some gnome meta package as manually installed if it's caused by the autoremoval |
| 19:32.53 | Stanlin | i know |
| 19:32.59 | Stanlin | but doesnt work in debian 5 |
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| 19:33.36 | Stanlin | ive removed all gnome, but nm-applets still there |
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| 19:33.52 | simonrvn | so remove it... |
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| 19:34.05 | coniptor | Anyone know why samba would stop appearing in the browse lists and nmbd would exit on start with return code 0 after an upgrade from etch to lenny? |
| 19:34.31 | Stanlin | simonrvn: im trying... in order to remove nm-applets, aptitude dpkg or synactic asks to remove gnome |
| 19:34.38 | Stanlin | simonrvn: ive remove gnome |
| 19:34.55 | Stanlin | simonrvn: reinstalled gnome, and nm-applets still theree |
| 19:35.01 | simonrvn | so? 'gnome' is just a meta-package |
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| 19:36.03 | Stanlin | simonrvn: i removed this apt-get remove gnome gnome-utils gnome-core gnome-desktop-data gnome-desktop-environment |
| 19:36.11 | ajavid | !remove gnome |
| 19:36.11 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly). |
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| 19:37.24 | simonrvn | backasswards... i don't have the meta-packages installed, yet i'm able to remove it no problem.... |
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| 19:39.17 | ryan-c | obscure question of the moment: Say I have a serial console set up with getty or whatever... I attach to it with screen on another host... How to I change the size of the console? IE the rows and columns |
| 19:39.41 | Akuw | how can i conect to remote desktop? |
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| 19:39.54 | Akuw | i did activate in pc1 |
| 19:40.02 | Akuw | how can connect from pc2 ? |
| 19:40.05 | dvs | Akuw: vnc seems to be a popular choice. |
| 19:40.12 | morsing | Or X |
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| 19:40.51 | Stanlin | is kde better than gnome in this sense?? this is a joke |
| 19:40.57 | Akuw | i have 2 debian computers |
| 19:41.42 | arcnewuss | just installed debian amd64 with default partition and root partition is full is there a way to resize root partition with boot on it |
| 19:42.09 | Stanlin | arcnewuss: dd |
| 19:42.17 | siyb | Stanlin: have you ever heard the term meta package |
| 19:42.18 | siyb | ? |
| 19:42.35 | Akuw | how can connect to remote desktop? |
| 19:42.44 | morsing | Akuw: X -query <ip_address> |
| 19:42.46 | dondelelcaro | arcnewuss: if you've got extra space and can make the partition larger, yes. |
| 19:43.01 | vasudeva | jpinx: wow, it seems to have worked out so far. now... to reboot :E |
| 19:43.01 | siyb | Akuw: rdp or vnc based? |
| 19:43.20 | arcnewuss | i guess i need to boot from live disk or something |
| 19:44.29 | Akuw | vnc |
| 19:44.40 | daedhel | I want to copy everything from /somedir/*, exept /somedir/not-this-dir, to ----> /some/other/dir . Anyone can help me figure ou the command line? |
| 19:44.55 | siyb | Akuw: xvnc4viewer - Virtual network computing client software for X |
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| 19:45.00 | ajavid | uhm |
| 19:45.07 | ajavid | thats if xdmcp is setup |
| 19:45.13 | ajavid | you didn't ask him how he watned to do remote desktop |
| 19:45.27 | vasudeva | daedhel: using rsync to do a local copy, with an exclude list, would make that fairly straight-forward |
| 19:45.29 | ajavid | there is x over ssh, vnc, xdmcp, rdp, etc. etc. |
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| 19:45.34 | maligor | daedhel, just move it temporarily out of way |
| 19:45.39 | siyb | ajavid: 20:44 < Akuw> vnc |
| 19:45.56 | siyb | ;) |
| 19:45.59 | arcnewuss | i have extra space what is the way to resize my root partition, can i do that with a 32 live cd if my system is 64 |
| 19:46.01 | ajavid | ok, now ask him if he wants to use a seperate X session or the one that is currently running? |
| 19:46.17 | Stanlin | siyb: thanks for the concern, how to remove nm-applet ? |
| 19:46.30 | siyb | Stanlin: how did you install gnome? |
| 19:46.30 | arcnewuss | or can i do it with my system running |
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| 19:46.47 | arcnewuss | apt-get remove nm-applet |
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| 19:47.42 | daedhel | maligor, vasudeva thanks, brb, trying that in cmd line |
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| 19:48.01 | vasudeva | daedhel: maligor's is probably best if you just need quick and dirty |
| 19:48.04 | arcnewuss | i should have been more carefull, how come default partition from debian is so small |
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| 19:48.24 | bit0 | hi! |
| 19:48.34 | maligor | yeah, it's a case of KISS unless you need to automate it :P |
| 19:48.42 | bit0 | is pulseaudio broken on sid? |
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| 19:49.00 | maligor | or you can't move it out of the way |
| 19:49.03 | arcnewuss | parted |
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| 19:54.48 | rafaelscj | I have installed debian with kde, how can I download torrent files? |
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| 19:54.56 | ofl_ | how do i check in bash the application is exist or not ? |
| 19:55.24 | Jemt | rafaelscj: Install a client |
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| 19:56.27 | Jemt | rafaelscj: ktorrent perhaps |
| 19:56.27 | Stanlin | nm-applets still there!!! |
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| 19:59.23 | rafaelscj | Jemt, wich did you install, kde or gnome? ktorrent isn't installed by default. |
| 19:59.45 | jelly-home | !ops JaZZ onjoin spam |
| 19:59.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: JaZZ onjoin spam |
| 19:59.52 | Jemt | rafaelscj: then install it |
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| 20:01.39 | ajavid | rtorrent or deluge-torrent |
| 20:01.44 | ajavid | ktorrent is not good |
| 20:01.58 | ajavid | on private trackers it can get you banned |
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| 20:04.34 | Gun_Smoke | why? |
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| 20:06.26 | petemc | some trackers only allow certain clients as others can be configured to cheat and not do any uploading |
| 20:06.43 | vasudeva | jpinx: it seems to have worked flawlessly -- thanks a ton for your help. |
| 20:06.45 | petemc | tho i think its probably easy enough to work around such limits |
| 20:06.48 | jpinx | vasudeva: how's it going? |
| 20:06.59 | Gun_Smoke | another reason to use newsgroups.. |
| 20:07.07 | vasudeva | jpinx: just finished a reboot and everything looks great |
| 20:07.09 | jpinx | vasudeva: cool -- good to hear you receovered |
| 20:07.48 | jpinx | vasudeva: now tell everyone you meet to specify the version by name, not by stable/unstable/etc in sources.list |
| 20:07.58 | vasudeva | man, no kidding |
| 20:08.20 | jpinx | vasudeva: you might want to check you servers, mail, http, etc after the reboot |
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| 20:08.45 | jpinx | vasudeva: I had to restart apache for some strange reason |
| 20:09.05 | jpinx | but sounds like you're on it again -- good luck |
| 20:09.11 | vasudeva | good idea |
| 20:09.15 | vasudeva | and thanks again! |
| 20:09.28 | kunal113 | hey. where could i read on how to install graphic card on debian? |
| 20:09.41 | keith4_ | what card? |
| 20:10.01 | kunal113 | as in my graphic card. its some old 16mb graphic card. |
| 20:11.27 | streuner | kunal113: lspci -v | grep VGA |
| 20:11.37 | kunal113 | ok. |
| 20:11.40 | sphenxes01 | I am using Filezilla for ftp transfer? is there any program for linux that make a md5sum after file transfer? I have several broken files when i used filezilla. |
| 20:12.49 | kunal113 | ok my graphic card is Trident microsystems Cyberbalde XPAi1 |
| 20:13.00 | kunal113 | how to install it? is there any manual? |
| 20:13.42 | streuner | sphenxes01: md5sum |
| 20:13.52 | streuner | !find /usr/bin/md5sum |
| 20:13.54 | icebrain | sphenxes01: but do you want "automatic" md5 checking? |
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| 20:14.08 | clamiax | hi |
| 20:14.21 | sphenxes01 | icebrain, yes and to complete the download if something is missing |
| 20:14.52 | themill | sphenxes01: rsync would be better for that |
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| 20:15.03 | icebrain | sphenxes01: I don't think FTP can download in parts |
| 20:15.04 | RedEyess | how does one install compiz on debian 5? |
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| 20:15.37 | sphenxes01 | icebrain, that is my problem. i think so too. |
| 20:15.50 | icebrain | sphenxes01: but it's possible to make a script using lftp do re-download the file if the md5 doesn't match |
| 20:16.52 | sphenxes01 | icebrain, thanks |
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| 20:17.54 | clamiax | I wondering if there is something wrong in libc (both stable and testing) since i have troubles by compiling a source which uses the b64_ntop() routine |
| 20:18.17 | clamiax | The routine is defined in resolv.h which i, of course, include at the top of the source file |
| 20:18.50 | adb | RedEyess: try #compiz |
| 20:19.01 | RedEyess | k |
| 20:19.08 | clamiax | you can check yourself with the following test.c file... |
| 20:19.13 | clamiax | #include <resolv.h> |
| 20:19.15 | clamiax | int main(void) { return b64_ntop(0, 0, 0, 0); } |
| 20:20.00 | clamiax | Does anyone have an idea? |
| 20:21.31 | xingu | clamiax: try adding -lresolv to your build flags. |
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| 20:21.50 | xingu | clamiax: from the looks of things __b64_ntop symbol is in it. |
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| 20:25.24 | monkey_d_luffy | Is there anything better than par2 for creating forward error recovery files? |
| 20:26.02 | Mac101 | hi im tryin to changing the gnome classic logon theme but the dropdown menu change doesnt seem to stick after a reboot? |
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| 20:27.53 | Stanlin | whats the name of the remote control package for gnome? |
| 20:28.07 | abrotman | like remote desktop ? |
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| 20:28.20 | Stanlin | exactly |
| 20:28.57 | coniptor | I had been using fail2ban to block attempted brute force attempts of my ssh server. I though fail2ban was ignoring my ignoreip statement for my local ip's but after I removed and purged fail2ban something is still adding drop lines to my input and forward lines for my workstation at home. Anyone know what besides fail2ban would do this? |
| 20:28.57 | clamiax | xingu: yes, it did the work. I though to had already tried it. Sorry for the noise. |
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| 20:29.18 | abrotman | Stanlin: there is vino, and another i can't recall |
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| 20:30.43 | clamiax | brb |
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| 20:30.47 | Agiofws | hi |
| 20:30.49 | Agiofws | is there an online IP location finder ? |
| 20:31.06 | abrotman | like a GeoIP thing ? |
| 20:31.16 | coniptor | Agiosfws: showmyip.com and shat.ipid.net I believe |
| 20:33.14 | FlyingFoX | is there a collection of useful debian tools for server maintainance? |
| 20:33.27 | coniptor | help, help something keeps adding a drop line to netfilter for my home workstation what besides fail2ban could be doing this? |
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| 20:33.35 | abrotman | FlyingFoX: you're going to have to be more specific |
| 20:33.37 | gravity | FlyingFoX: That's a *very* broad category |
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| 20:34.18 | cloudsynth | How do you tell if your kernel is targeted or not? |
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| 20:36.20 | FlyingFoX | hm yeah its meant quite broad :). i think of things like sysv-rc-conf, ifupdown, aptiutde, dpkg-reconfigure and other debian specific tools. |
| 20:36.24 | nsadmin | Hi, I want to see if I can get debian to detect/use a pci softmodem... I'll get you the device string.... |
| 20:36.46 | nsadmin | f00li5h:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 02) |
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| 20:37.09 | Stanlin | abrotman: thanks, you are sharp as usual |
| 20:37.27 | abrotman | FlyingFoX: that's still way too vague .. |
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| 20:38.17 | abrotman | FlyingFoX: there are hundreds of tools to make the admin's job easier .. |
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| 20:39.21 | FlyingFoX | abrotman: i don't want to get anything in particular done, i just thought there was a thread or something where many useful tools are listed. just to look around a bit. |
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| 20:40.11 | xingu | nsadmin: see linmodems.org |
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| 20:40.33 | nsadmin | well :) thanks |
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| 20:40.47 | Gigantic | issue #1: I can not boot my Windows partiton, device.map show correctly that (hd0) /dev/hda and grub.cfg is set to: set root=(hd0,0) chainloader +1 |
| 20:40.59 | Gigantic | but still it complain that it can not find the device |
| 20:41.21 | Gigantic | I have the ntfs partition mounted atm so it is not even corrupted |
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| 20:41.35 | Gigantic | what's wrong with grub there? |
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| 20:42.36 | cloudsynth | Gigantic: ...so your ntfs part is at /dev/sda1? |
| 20:42.37 | Gigantic | >.< |
| 20:42.52 | abrotman | FlyingFoX: there are tons of documents to read if that's what you're looking for |
| 20:42.59 | Gigantic | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.31 | FlyingFoX | i found this: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianserver.htm which is similar what i searched for. |
| 20:44.29 | abrotman | but that's ancient |
| 20:44.41 | abrotman | some of it anyways .. sarge hasn't been supported in over a year |
| 20:44.48 | abrotman | erm .. almost a year? |
| 20:44.48 | coniptor | can anyone tell me what besides fail2ban would monitor network usage and add DROP lines to the INPUT and FORWARD chains of netfilter for 10 minutes at a time? |
| 20:45.42 | Gigantic | cloudsynth: nah, problem is with the chainloader part, tried root=/dev/hda1 too |
| 20:45.47 | Gigantic | same |
| 20:45.56 | FlyingFoX | abrotman: i would be glad if you point me to a more current page. |
| 20:46.13 | abrotman | FlyingFoX: try reading actual documentation for wahtever you're trying to do |
| 20:46.39 | FlyingFoX | as i said i am not trying to do anything in particular right now XD |
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| 20:47.12 | abrotman | then how would i point at specific documentation? |
| 20:47.20 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 20:47.20 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about <ig>, <docs>, <manuals>, <reference>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your irc client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
| 20:48.11 | Gigantic | also... if anybody's using amsn and is working... coulkd please tell me what version of tk you have installed? pls |
| 20:48.49 | Gigantic | there is a bug in mine and im not sure if to link it to a previous one |
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| 20:49.59 | kibibyte | hi |
| 20:50.09 | kibibyte | is it possible to get use uid which excutes command? |
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| 20:51.54 | adb | judd: grub versions |
| 20:51.54 | judd | adb: Error: "grub" is not a valid command. |
| 20:52.05 | adb | judd: versions grub2 |
| 20:52.05 | judd | adb: grub2 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 squeeze: 1.96+20080724-16 sid: 1.96+20090317-1 |
| 20:52.08 | kibibyte | help |
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| 20:52.43 | abrotman | kibibyte: in /proc/ it is |
| 20:52.56 | kibibyte | but |
| 20:53.01 | abrotman | you got your answer |
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| 20:53.08 | kibibyte | i need it in script |
| 20:53.19 | abrotman | so write it |
| 20:53.20 | kibibyte | i must get uid of user which run command |
| 20:53.54 | abrotman | kibibyte: $UID ? |
| 20:54.04 | kunal | scould someone here tell me where I could learn about installing graphic cards on Debian? |
| 20:54.08 | kibibyte | abrotman, ? |
| 20:54.20 | kunal | or drivers in general? |
| 20:54.28 | Stanlin | !madwifi |
| 20:54.28 | dpkg | madwifi is a driver for wireless devices with an Atheros chipset. More information at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci . To install drivers built against Debian stock kernels, ask about <madwifi-install>. No USB devices are supported. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Support, #madwifi @ irc.freenode.net. Removed from Debian to resolve bug #519446. |
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| 20:54.51 | abrotman | kunal: what about them? |
| 20:54.53 | abrotman | kibibyte: what? |
| 20:55.00 | kibibyte | abrotman, ho to get this uid |
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| 20:55.14 | kunal | abrotman: i want to install my graphic card. and fix my screen resolution. just installed debian on my system. |
| 20:55.19 | abrotman | i just told you two different ways |
| 20:55.26 | abrotman | kunal: which video card? |
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| 20:57.00 | kunal | i have a trident microsystem cyberblade XPAi1 vga card. |
| 20:57.14 | abrotman | i'm not sure there's a driver for that at all ? |
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| 20:58.25 | abrotman | kunal: maybe the trident driver .. |
| 20:59.07 | Sebboh | Hi. I seem to recall that there is a semi-automatic way to get a list of .deb URLs that need to be downloaded in order to carry out an apt-get update. So then, I get wget those deb files on another (faster) machine. How do I do that? |
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| 20:59.43 | abrotman | --print-uris ? |
| 20:59.53 | kunal | abrotman: are you serious? |
| 21:00.06 | kunal | how do i test? |
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| 21:01.15 | keith4_ | kunal, try the trident driver, no? |
| 21:01.30 | kunal | hmm ok. |
| 21:01.41 | Sebboh | abrotman, thanks. |
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| 21:04.37 | nsadmin | xingu: heya, and thanks... do you know of a live resource such as an irc channel? |
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| 21:05.11 | Gigantic | how can I know what version of tk is installed? |
| 21:05.13 | xingu | nsadmin: sorry, no; the topic's long past its use-by for me |
| 21:05.18 | Sebboh | abrotman, 'apt-get upgrade --no-act --print-uris' doesn't produce what I'd expect, and 'apt-get upgrade --print-uris' informs me that 40mb of diskspace will be used if I press Y, leading me to believe that it will actually perform the upgrade now, which I don't want. Advice? |
| 21:05.28 | xingu | nsadmin: do yourself a favour and go digital ;) |
| 21:05.43 | abrotman | Sebboh: try it .. see what it actually does .. if it starts downloading, just kill it |
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| 21:06.04 | abrotman | though you might want to put the --print-uris before the upgrade .. on some commands that placement matters |
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| 21:06.35 | Sebboh | Prod. I'll just .. oh, right, I'll try the placement, and then just wait until tonight otherwise. Thanks. |
| 21:06.36 | nsadmin | this is actually for a friend, I am and she was... now she's spoiled and greatly misses the bandwidth :( |
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| 21:07.10 | Sebboh | abrotman, FYI, placement not significant for this one. |
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| 21:08.02 | abrotman | Sebboh: what happens if you just hit enter ? |
| 21:08.16 | Gigantic | the world ends |
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| 21:08.27 | Gigantic | ^ |
| 21:08.42 | Gigantic | hit it!!! |
| 21:08.55 | Gigantic | how can I know my version of Tk pls |
| 21:09.19 | adb | judd: versions tk |
| 21:09.19 | judd | adb: tk -- lenny: 8.4.16-2 sid: 8.4.16-2 squeeze: 8.4.16-2 |
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| 21:09.30 | abrotman | Gigantic: dpkg -l "*tk*" |
| 21:10.05 | Gigantic | ah that's cool ty |
| 21:10.26 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm trying to check/test a bunch of 7z files, but I don't understand the manual. It supposedely allows reading a list of filenames from a file, but I don't understand... does anyone with 7zip installed knows how to do it? |
| 21:10.50 | johndoe | hey how can i submit info to dpkg (this channel's bot) ? |
| 21:11.18 | Gigantic | !bot help |
| 21:11.18 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
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| 21:11.47 | johndoe | Gigantic: you should read what the bot just said..... |
| 21:11.47 | Gigantic | uhm... you cna just tell him !roses are red ej |
| 21:11.58 | Gigantic | yeah >.> |
| 21:12.07 | abrotman | johndoe: depends what it is |
| 21:12.10 | zzattack2 | can I clear the journal for an ext4 filesystem? I want to rebuild it |
| 21:12.36 | johndoe | abrotman: i found a solution to a certain problem and i want to submit it to dpkg |
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| 21:13.43 | abrotman | nice and vague .. |
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| 21:14.17 | scgtrp | i need help getting 3d acceleration on my mach64 video card. xorg was complaining that it couldn't load the mach64 kernel module, so i got it from xorg's git repo and compiled it, but when i restarted x with it loaded i got a kernel panic./win 2 |
| 21:14.47 | scgtrp | ... is there any debian-compatible source of that module? |
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| 21:15.09 | coniptor | Can anyone here familiar with prelude-lml tell me if it is capable of modifying netfilter rules dynamically such as fail2ban? |
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| 21:16.01 | abrotman | scgtrp: i don't think mach64 does acceleration |
| 21:16.45 | scgtrp | abrotman: the internet tells me it can (although i don't expect that much out of it) |
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| 21:17.29 | abrotman | scgtrp: i doubt you need the git repo for that .. most of those cards are about 10 years old if not more |
| 21:17.58 | scgtrp | this laptop is from last century, so you're right. but i couldn't find it anywhere else |
| 21:18.24 | adb | scgtrp: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=think+mach64+does+acceleration |
| 21:18.50 | abrotman | scgtrp: lspci | grep VGA .. which card is this actually ? |
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| 21:19.12 | scgtrp | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) |
| 21:19.37 | scgtrp | (and no, fglrx/radeon don't work with it) |
| 21:19.55 | abrotman | doesn't work? or doesn't accelerate ? |
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| 21:20.02 | Gigantic | issue #1: I can not boot my Windows partiton, device.map show correctly that (hd0) /dev/hda and grub.cfg is set to: set root=(hd0,0) chainloader +1 But still it complain that it can not find the device, the ntfs partition is mounted so I know that it is not corrupted |
| 21:20.07 | scgtrp | abrotman: x says no devices found and quits |
| 21:20.11 | Gigantic | any idea what's wrong? |
| 21:20.22 | abrotman | scgtrp: man radeon .. do you see your card listed in there ? |
| 21:20.58 | scgtrp | abrotman: no |
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| 21:21.13 | scgtrp | it's actually not a radeon at all, don't rememeber why i tried that |
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| 21:22.01 | adb | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7200 |
| 21:23.04 | adb | its talking about exactly your card |
| 21:23.11 | scgtrp | trying it |
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| 21:23.50 | OpenTokix | mischief6: sid has 2.6.28 now |
| 21:23.50 | zzattack2 | can I clear the journal for an ext4 filesystem? I want to rebuild it because it's corrupted or somehow 'incorrect' |
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| 21:24.11 | brian17 | hello |
| 21:24.19 | brian17 | i just installed debian KDE lenny |
| 21:24.24 | brian17 | is there a graphical package manager? |
| 21:24.53 | abrotman | scgtrp: moment .. |
| 21:25.13 | brian17 | i am having difficulty doing anything |
| 21:25.19 | brian17 | if i do apt-get update I get this: |
| 21:25.25 | brian17 | brian@brians-pc:~$ apt-get update |
| 21:25.25 | brian17 | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied) |
| 21:25.37 | abrotman | brian17: yu're not root |
| 21:25.48 | scgtrp | abrotman: ? |
| 21:26.10 | abrotman | scgtrp: i'm looking for something |
| 21:26.16 | brian17 | ok |
| 21:26.21 | brian17 | even if i am root it doesnt work |
| 21:26.22 | brian17 | brians-pc:/home/brian# apt-get install synaptic |
| 21:26.22 | brian17 | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 21:26.32 | scgtrp | should i not be trying that ubuntu link? |
| 21:26.44 | scgtrp | because... it's a bit late to stop |
| 21:27.12 | abrotman | okay .. do whatever you want .. it's your box |
| 21:27.13 | scgtrp | /home/mike/etc/mach64-20060403-linux.i386/drm/linux-core/drmP.h:44:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory |
| 21:27.26 | scgtrp | what package has that? it's not linux-headers apparently |
| 21:27.29 | brian17 | can someone help me take back me computer? |
| 21:27.40 | brian17 | this is terrible... cannot even apt-get install things |
| 21:27.40 | abrotman | and that's why ubuntu instructions are dangerious |
| 21:27.51 | abrotman | brian17: you're not root .. you have to be root to install things |
| 21:27.56 | brian17 | I AM ROOT |
| 21:28.01 | scgtrp | ... clearly not |
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| 21:28.09 | brian17 | I typed in su |
| 21:28.11 | scgtrp | try 'sudo apt-get install ...' |
| 21:28.13 | brian17 | then the root password |
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| 21:28.21 | brian17 | then sudo apt-get install synaptic |
| 21:28.22 | abrotman | this is not ubuntu .. sudo is not always configured by default |
| 21:28.25 | brian17 | and it didnt let me |
| 21:28.29 | scgtrp | ... or su |
| 21:28.30 | abrotman | and please stop telling people to use it |
| 21:28.32 | brian17 | i didnt use sudo |
| 21:28.40 | abrotman | brian17: the $ says you're not root |
| 21:28.40 | brian17 | sorry thats a typo |
| 21:28.52 | gravity | brian17: "it didn't let you" what? Did your prompt change when you finished typing your password? |
| 21:28.55 | abrotman | ah okay .. /me lokos closer |
| 21:28.56 | gravity | It should be different |
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| 21:29.05 | brian17 | i am root |
| 21:29.05 | abrotman | brian17: is your filesystem readonly ? |
| 21:29.10 | scgtrp | abrotman: what were you going to give me? |
| 21:29.11 | brian17 | i dont know |
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| 21:29.15 | gravity | brian17: Also, do you have another copy of aptitude open somewhere? |
| 21:29.23 | brian17 | i have not opened aptitude |
| 21:29.58 | abrotman | scgtrp: i wasn't sure which driver was for you and i was going to look .. but don't let me stop you |
| 21:30.08 | brian17 | how do i find out if my filesystem is read only? |
| 21:30.19 | brian17 | why would debian make it read only? |
| 21:30.37 | johndoe | brian17: what does whoami say |
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| 21:30.42 | scgtrp | "... linux/config.h is a |
| 21:30.42 | scgtrp | deprecated file which no longer exists in current kernel headers. |
| 21:30.51 | nayx | scgtrp: did you try xserver-xorg-video-mach64 yet? |
| 21:31.01 | scgtrp | nayx: i'm missing the kernel module, not the xorg module |
| 21:31.08 | nayx | oh! |
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| 21:31.11 | brian17 | whoami:root |
| 21:31.35 | brian17 | im restarting pc |
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| 21:33.51 | scgtrp | abrotman: it appears to be mach64, since none of the other ati drivers work |
| 21:34.10 | abrotman | scgtrp: how did you install xorg? |
| 21:34.18 | scgtrp | ... with apt-get? |
| 21:34.24 | scgtrp | (is there another way?) |
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| 21:34.37 | adb | aptitude ... |
| 21:34.52 | gravity | It can be installed from source if you're in to that sort of thing. |
| 21:34.57 | gravity | I don't recommend it though. |
| 21:35.04 | scgtrp | ah. no, i installed it from the debian packages |
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| 21:35.31 | abrotman | scgtrp: im eant .. `aptitude install xorg` ? or some other command ? |
| 21:35.32 | scgtrp | adb: that link you gave me... seems to be outdated. the latest snapshot at the site it links to doesn't compile with recent kernels |
| 21:35.59 | scgtrp | abrotman: i don't remember, i've had linux on here a few months and just got around to messing with this |
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| 21:36.25 | adb | i see , sorry but maube take the idea to adapt to .26 |
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| 21:36.39 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.40 | brian17 | new problem guys |
| 21:36.45 | brian17 | i cannot install flash player |
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| 21:36.59 | scgtrp | my .bash_histories don't seem to go back that far |
| 21:37.14 | brian17 | Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 21:37.14 | brian17 | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 21:37.14 | brian17 | is only available from another source |
| 21:37.14 | brian17 | E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate |
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| 21:37.16 | scgtrp | ohh |
| 21:37.18 | scgtrp | apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 21:37.28 | Shadowkllr | so does anyone know why after hibernating debian, when you start it up, it would only boot up to a blank screen and cause the monitor to go off? |
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| 21:37.51 | kingsley | Is there an easy way to tell if a package's source code is publicly available or not? If so, how? |
| 21:37.53 | brian17 | does anyone know why flash player has no installation candidate? |
| 21:37.55 | themill | dpkg: tell brian17 about paste |
| 21:38.03 | scgtrp | kingsley: google it |
| 21:38.07 | themill | brian17: /msg dpkg adobe flash |
| 21:38.10 | scgtrp | (google the package name) |
| 21:38.25 | scgtrp | it'll be on the app's website :) |
| 21:38.28 | Iznogood | is there such a thing as a default torrentclient for debian gnome? |
| 21:38.39 | DanDare | Shadowkllr, its unclear but if it is me i was going to change ACPI settings on BIOS for _testing_ purposes |
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| 21:38.46 | themill | kingsley: all packages within debian's main and contrib repositories have the source code available. /msg dpkg source |
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| 21:38.48 | nayx | scgtrp: linux/config.h was removed from the kernel source in 2.6.19, try to comment out the include from drm_auth.c |
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| 21:39.20 | scgtrp | nayx: i created an empty file there instead, then it was missing some symbols |
| 21:39.41 | brian17 | is the easiest option to use backports to get flash? |
| 21:39.50 | abrotman | brian17: or /msg dpkg dmm |
| 21:39.52 | Shadowkllr | i just don't know why it would not start up after hibernating |
| 21:40.13 | kingsley | themill: Thanks. That helps. Do you happen to know how to tell which repository a given package belongs to? |
| 21:40.25 | scgtrp | nayx: http://pastebin.com/m18e8a3aa |
| 21:40.37 | DanDare | Shadowkllr, or even DMPS monitor settings on BIOS also |
| 21:40.38 | themill | kingsley: it's an imprecise science as apt doesn't work that way, but /msg dpkg which repo |
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| 21:41.12 | brian17 | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0 |
| 21:41.13 | Shadowkllr | well the problem is, the computer is running, and i'm scared to shut it off, i guess a cold boot is the only way i'm gonna get it to do anything, |
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| 21:41.23 | brian17 | is that a problem? |
| 21:41.24 | themill | brian17: keep reading |
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| 21:42.54 | brian17 | it says flashplayer-mozilla needs nspluginwrapper |
| 21:43.05 | brian17 | but that is not available |
| 21:43.29 | abrotman | brian17: are you on amd64 ? |
| 21:43.43 | brian17 | yes |
| 21:43.47 | abrotman | on etch or lenny? |
| 21:43.50 | brian17 | lenny |
| 21:44.03 | abrotman | you shouldn't need nspluginwrapper |
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| 21:44.26 | brian17 | apparently i do |
| 21:44.54 | abrotman | there's a natively amd64 flash binary now |
| 21:45.22 | brian17 | are you using it? |
| 21:45.25 | scum | Is there a possibility to hybernate just some processes, to have the memory and cpu for a task that realy depends on them? |
| 21:45.30 | zinx | flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:45.35 | abrotman | brian17: i don't have fancy expensive hardware |
| 21:45.49 | abrotman | brian17: but you probably need to enable contrib/non-free sources on your main source |
| 21:45.53 | scgtrp | is there a debian package of the mach64 kernel module somewhere? |
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| 21:46.13 | brian17 | ill try backports |
| 21:46.31 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.38 | abrotman | brian17: it would be easier to enable contrib/non-free |
| 21:46.41 | Akuw | when install debian, by default have nfs support right? |
| 21:46.42 | brian17 | same problem with backports |
| 21:46.49 | abrotman | oh well ... whatever |
| 21:46.50 | zinx | flashplayer-mozilla appears to be from debian-multimedia, which isn't an official repository |
| 21:46.50 | brian17 | how do i enable contrib/non-free |
| 21:47.04 | scgtrp | adb: that's the xorg module. i need the kernel module. |
| 21:47.17 | zinx | flashplugin-nonfree is the official package, and it's in contrib |
| 21:47.23 | adb | try first it |
| 21:47.33 | adb | scgtrp: ^^ |
| 21:47.46 | brian17 | how do i enable contrib |
| 21:47.49 | scgtrp | adb: i'm already using that - it doesn't do acceleration without the kernel module though |
| 21:48.20 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.48 | zinx | !tell brian17 about contrib |
| 21:48.56 | PeterFA | I need to find out the Debian package match for gdk-x11-2.0. I can't find that package in the repos for Squeeze. |
| 21:49.11 | Akuw | when install debian, by default have nfs support right? |
| 21:49.17 | Akuw | where is exports ? |
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| 21:49.20 | scgtrp | adama: Driver "mach64" |
| 21:49.22 | abrotman | !tell akuw about repeat |
| 21:49.25 | scgtrp | adb: ^^ |
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| 21:49.36 | adb | ok ... |
| 21:49.40 | batman_ramirez | hello in what package is the make command??? |
| 21:49.43 | scgtrp | (and mouse and kbd) |
| 21:49.46 | abrotman | !b-e batman_ramirez |
| 21:49.46 | dpkg | batman_ramirez: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 21:49.57 | batman_ramirez | nice thanks |
| 21:49.58 | adb | scgtrp: tried m-a ? |
| 21:50.00 | gravity | batman_ramirez: Try "make" |
| 21:50.14 | gravity | wonders sometimes |
| 21:50.28 | batman_ramirez | i tried that one... but build-essential was the one i could not remember |
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| 21:51.14 | scgtrp | adb: i see nothing relevant in its list |
| 21:51.23 | adb | ah ... |
| 21:51.41 | brian17 | um |
| 21:51.50 | brian17 | i still cant install flashplugin non free |
| 21:52.04 | themill | brian17: can you pastebin your sources.list for us... it should be lenny-backports not etch-backports. |
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| 21:53.03 | Stanlin | !madwifi |
| 21:53.03 | dpkg | madwifi is a driver for wireless devices with an Atheros chipset. More information at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci . To install drivers built against Debian stock kernels, ask about <madwifi-install>. No USB devices are supported. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Support, #madwifi @ irc.freenode.net. Removed from Debian to resolve bug #519446. |
| 21:53.11 | DanDare | so now its lenny the current stable. For how long i will be able to get security updates from APT? Im using etch |
| 21:53.25 | swolchok2 | how do i work around dpkg-shlibdeps failing on the ia32 libnspr4.so.0d? |
| 21:53.39 | brian17 | http://paste.debian.net/31225/ |
| 21:53.40 | themill | DanDare: yes for another 12 or so months. Make sure you have "etch" in your sources.list not "stable" though. |
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| 21:53.53 | Stanlin | found another bbbbbug on debina |
| 21:53.54 | DanDare | ok themill, very thanks |
| 21:54.02 | brian17 | please tell me why i cannot install flash - this is really frustrating |
| 21:54.02 | Stanlin | !madwifi-install |
| 21:54.02 | dpkg | hmm... madwifi-install is ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>, then as root: "apt-get update && apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i madwifi && modprobe -r ath5k ; modprobe ath_pci". You should now have madwifi installed. Note: Atheros = ath0, NOT eth0. This driver is not available post-Lenny, ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k>. |
| 21:54.05 | adb | Stanlin: do > /msg dpkg madwifi |
| 21:54.24 | themill | brian17: you didn't put backports.org into your sources.list or debian-multimedia.org |
| 21:54.29 | swolchok2 | it complains dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: no dependency information found for /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libplds4.so.0d |
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| 21:55.22 | brian17 | i used to have them but i took them out |
| 21:55.24 | brian17 | they didnt work |
| 21:55.31 | themill | dpkg: tell brian17 about didn't work |
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| 21:55.37 | johndoe | themill: how can i add factoids to dpkg? or can only people with some 'access' do that? |
| 21:55.45 | shadowkllr | ok looks like i got the debian box up, new problem |
| 21:55.51 | Akuw | my exports look like /home/t101/ 192.168.1.101(ro) |
| 21:56.16 | Akuw | how can i see the shared resource ? |
| 21:56.22 | Akuw | from slave |
| 21:56.36 | themill | johndoe: anyone can, but you might like to discuss it with people first to make sure that you're not duplicating things. Either state the exact factoid your proposing here or in #debian-offtopic. |
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| 21:57.09 | themill | brian17: "didn't work" would have to be the most useless description you could give. |
| 21:57.16 | shadowkllr | i can't seem to properly set a static IP address on this computer, i've edited /etc/network/interfaces, and when i set it to static with all the declarations of ip address, gateway, etc, and restart the service, it doesn't change the ip address, but it still connects me to the net, but if i restart the computer totally, it changes the ip address, but does not properly connect me , i'll pastebin my config file in a sec |
| 21:57.27 | brian17 | h |
| 21:57.33 | brian17 | http://paste.debian.net/31226/ |
| 21:57.38 | johndoe | themill: thank you |
| 21:58.15 | Stanlin | where is madwifi-source in debian 5?? |
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| 21:58.26 | rhineheart_m | hello.. is lenny already mature and stable? |
| 21:58.29 | themill | brian17: right... so keep reading the instructions on both backports.org and dmm about what to do about the key. And you'll need to run aptitude update. |
| 21:58.34 | swolchok2 | from dpkg-shlibdeps manpage it looks like i should just set debian/shlibs.local? |
| 21:58.42 | rhineheart_m | for production environment |
| 21:58.44 | brian17 | bizarrely backports worked |
| 21:58.46 | themill | rhineheart_m: considering it was released over a month ago, I'd hope so. |
| 21:58.50 | brian17 | it didnt work last time i put it in |
| 21:59.02 | Stanlin | rhineheart_m: looks it is not, im 20 hours and i cant even compile madwifi |
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| 21:59.14 | shadowkllr | http://pastebin.com/m63d3eb3e is my config file |
| 21:59.18 | brian17 | i got a weird final message from the backports install |
| 21:59.20 | brian17 | 2009-03-22 14:58:22 (614 KB/s) - `./libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz' saved [3729613/3729613] |
| 21:59.54 | rhineheart_m | thanks themill and Stanlin..... I'm planning to deploy it as headless server |
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| 22:00.13 | Stanlin | rhineheart_m: i have lot of problems connecting to wifi with wep |
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| 22:00.53 | brian17 | can debian read ntfs hard drives? |
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| 22:01.29 | Stanlin | yes |
| 22:01.51 | brian17 | when i try and mount a hard drive in konquer that is windows xp it says permission denied |
| 22:02.00 | rhineheart_m | what's the main improvement of lenny over etch? |
| 22:02.21 | shadowkllr | ...i knew i shoulda stuck with kubuntu for my sandbox server....something just isn't right with this release of debian |
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| 22:03.03 | johndoe | brian17: because youre not root |
| 22:03.13 | brian17 | how do i know what graphics driver i am using |
| 22:03.16 | brian17 | thanks johndoe |
| 22:03.26 | adb | !tell brian17 about ntfs-3g |
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| 22:04.10 | adb | !tell brian17 about user accessible ntfs |
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| 22:04.27 | swolchok2 | how do i make dh_shlibs shut up and just let me build a package with potentially missing dep information? |
| 22:05.03 | brian17 | does debian come with gcc? or do i need to install something like build-essential |
| 22:05.16 | mns | Anyone know of something that convert PDF to RTF format ? or even PS to RTF ? I am writing my resume/cv using LaTeX, but would like to get a RTF version as well. latex2rtf doesn't work too well with what I have in my TeX file. |
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| 22:05.32 | Stanlin | oh lord, etch was much better |
| 22:05.47 | Stanlin | how to move to testing? |
| 22:06.01 | Stanlin | im sick of this 'stable' release, nothing works |
| 22:06.09 | mns | brian17: you just need to do "aptitude install gcc" and that should take care of it if you don't have it already. |
| 22:06.11 | themill | mns: nothing can do very well at converting a PDF to something else. |
| 22:06.18 | themill | !b-e brian17 |
| 22:06.18 | dpkg | brian17: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 22:06.41 | themill | Stanlin: I'll take a wild stab that (a) it's not lenny's fault and (b) you shouldn't try testing. |
| 22:06.46 | mns | themill: how about from DVI ? or from the Latex source ? |
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| 22:06.53 | klotfare | hi there |
| 22:06.55 | simonrvn | pebkac sucks, esp. when it's you that's doing the pebkac ;p |
| 22:07.11 | brian17 | how do i know what graphics driver i am using |
| 22:07.11 | klotfare | im installing sarge with floppies |
| 22:07.24 | klotfare | but i get error that cannot find file on server |
| 22:07.24 | brian17 | i have a ati 2600xt graphics card |
| 22:07.24 | Stanlin | themill: ive used testing the last years, and had no problems mostly, but with debian 5 i cant even find madwifi sources |
| 22:07.36 | swolchok2 | i've got raging pebkac right now :( |
| 22:07.39 | brian17 | i would like to install proprietary drivers but would like to see what i am currently using |
| 22:07.39 | mns | brian17: do --> lspci and that should list the things you've got. |
| 22:07.45 | klotfare | i dont have net problems since the installer is able to get the Release file but cant find the other files |
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| 22:07.50 | simonrvn | brian17: xorg log, conf |
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| 22:08.11 | johndoe | Stanlin: you most _likely_ do not need madwifi. ath5k or ath9k has the needed support |
| 22:08.19 | simonrvn | pebkacitis |
| 22:08.38 | brian17 | lspci doesn't tell me my driver |
| 22:08.41 | simonrvn | pebkacoitis? |
| 22:09.00 | mns | johndoe: there are certain laptops (IBM Thinkpad T60p which I used to have till recently) that do need madwifi as ath5k/9k do not work on them. |
| 22:09.05 | simonrvn | brian17: it wouldn't... (not by default, and not the Xorg one) |
| 22:09.27 | brian17 | xorg log/xorg conf dont work either |
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| 22:09.31 | brian17 | command not found |
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| 22:09.47 | simonrvn | you *LOOK* at them you don't run them... |
| 22:09.48 | Stanlin | johndoe: thats the problem, doesnt work with this laptop |
| 22:09.49 | mns | Stanlin: I've used madwifi from lenny (aka stable/debian 5) for a while and had no problems. |
| 22:09.52 | p0g0 | mns: tell me more about madwifi working vs ath5k, what doesn't work? |
| 22:10.20 | johndoe | maybe ask in #madwifi ? |
| 22:10.24 | Stanlin | mns: how to compile madwifi? |
| 22:10.53 | p0g0 | Stanlin: the madwiif wili covers getting and compiling madwifi |
| 22:10.57 | themill | Stanlin: right... and with your l33t powers, you couldn't follow the instructions that dpkg provided? |
| 22:10.58 | p0g0 | *wiki |
| 22:11.00 | simonrvn | brian17: /var/log/Xorg.0.log /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:11.25 | brian17 | does anyone know a good simple C++ ide for debian |
| 22:11.26 | mns | p0g0: 1. madwifi was able to detect the Atheros chipset I had. ath5k was never able to do so. 2. I could connect with madwifi, not with ath5k. I had been on the madwifi channel and worked with people in there to try and solve it, but never got anywhere far. I no longer have the laptop. |
| 22:11.35 | abrotman | brian17: did you get flash working yet? |
| 22:11.49 | brian17 | i got it working through backports |
| 22:11.57 | abrotman | brian17: using gnome? kde? CLI ? |
| 22:11.58 | p0g0 | mns: just curious- I've done a lot of madwifi support is why I asked. |
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| 22:12.03 | brian17 | KDE |
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| 22:12.07 | johndoe | msn: ath5k has been updated very recently. in the last month or so |
| 22:12.14 | abrotman | brian17: doesn't kdevelop do that ? |
| 22:12.33 | swolchok2 | brian17: kdevelop i guess |
| 22:12.33 | brian17 | i don't know |
| 22:12.35 | mns | Stanlin: I followed the instructions that are there on the Debian wiki for WPA, or at least that is where I started and it led me to madwifi ... and so on. |
| 22:12.36 | themill | mns: converting formats is hard... not that I know of. I've heard of a couple of latex->rtf converters that work (commercial ones) but never tried |
| 22:12.38 | p0g0 | johndoe: it'll basically be updated with each kernel release |
| 22:12.39 | brian17 | i usually use windows |
| 22:12.56 | themill | brian17: yeah, kdevelop is a pretty good ide for C++ |
| 22:13.02 | kingsley | themill: Thanks. |
| 22:13.09 | swolchok2 | bah just use emacs |
| 22:13.19 | mns | themill: yeah and those are usually Windows ones. I run Debian on PPC ... not much of a chance to get those things working. |
| 22:13.32 | themill | quite... |
| 22:13.37 | johndoe | p0g0: well it didnt support my chip. few days ago i compiled a vanilla kernel and *poof* it started working |
| 22:14.10 | mns | p0g0: not a problem. I just kept using madwifi/WPA and it worked fine at home though not at work. Kind of a mute point now since I don't work there anymore. :) |
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| 22:14.31 | monkey_d_luffy | Is there anything better than par2 for creating forward error recovery files? It doesn't support subdirectories :( |
| 22:14.49 | zzattack2 | my logs are filled up with quite useless messages like these: http://rafb.net/p/Ko6lo813.html ; can I tell my system not to log these? It greatly reduces my syslog readability. |
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| 22:15.02 | p0g0 | johndoe: uhuh- atheros has coughed up some of the required data sheets and opened one of their HALs, so both ath5|9k and madwifi have had a break in that regard. |
| 22:15.09 | swolchok2 | zzattack2: yeah, don't tell iptables to log things |
| 22:15.18 | swolchok2 | zzattack2: or adjust the loglevel at which you tell iptables to log things |
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| 22:15.38 | zzattack2 | swolchok2: where do I do that? I don't see anything in /etc regarding iptables |
| 22:15.53 | mns | Stanlin: the packages I had installed are: madwifi-modules, madwifi-sources, madwifi-tools, madwifi-doc. I used module-assistant to build and install the sources. |
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| 22:15.57 | swolchok2 | zzattack2: how'd you set up your firewall? |
| 22:16.08 | klotfare | is there a way to install lenny with floppies and no cd/dvd ? |
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| 22:16.21 | klotfare | because i dont have a cd/dvd rom |
| 22:16.23 | zzattack2 | swolchok2: run a couple of iptables commands from a bash script called by the ifup event in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:16.34 | johndoe | klotfare: do you have USB? |
| 22:16.39 | swolchok2 | zzattack2: and those commands don't include --log-whatever? |
| 22:16.39 | klotfare | no |
| 22:16.48 | mns | oh sure .. they wait to open up the HAL and such AFTER I have no laptop !!! |
| 22:16.55 | zzattack2 | swolchok2: indeed they dont |
| 22:16.55 | Stanlin | themill: apt-get update && apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i madwifi && modprobe -r ath5k ; modprobe ath_pci |
| 22:17.18 | Stanlin | themill: error: E: Couldn't find package madwifi-source |
| 22:17.18 | swolchok2 | zzattack2: hmm, don't know then |
| 22:17.33 | zzattack2 | swolchok2: ill see if there's more than just my script that runs iptables commands |
| 22:17.44 | p0g0 | Stanlin: that's not so very different and perhaps more complicated than pulling in the tarball from madwifi and doing a make;make install. The m-a does keep better track of the versioning, but since it's in non-free and just puills the sources and then does the build for you, intrinsically it's about the same |
| 22:17.44 | themill | Stanlin: so install it... |
| 22:17.57 | klotfare | johndoe: no |
| 22:17.59 | zzattack2 | swolchok2: anyway, you meant to say that iptables doesnt have a config file right? that it takes commands instead? |
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| 22:18.38 | p0g0 | Stanlin: there's a madwifi-tools .deb that you'll need if you want anything but a STA interface |
| 22:18.39 | swolchok2 | zzattack2: i guess you could say that. every run of the iptables command pokes at the system state. iptables commands can be run from config files. it's all fairly confusing |
| 22:18.42 | mns | Stanlin: you will need to put "non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file .. to get them. |
| 22:18.46 | swolchok2 | i recommend the iptables docs |
| 22:19.00 | johndoe | klotfare: ive no idea about the floppies |
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| 22:19.13 | johndoe | klotfare: maybe you can debootstrap |
| 22:19.26 | zzattack2 | thanks swolchok2 |
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| 22:19.34 | johndoe | dpgk: tell klotfare about debootstrap |
| 22:19.46 | klotfare | what about boot with floppies and then use a ftp/http server ? |
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| 22:19.50 | klotfare | is that possible |
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| 22:20.20 | Stanlin | mns: E: Couldn't find package madwifi-source, even after adding non-free |
| 22:20.28 | abrotman | judd: versions madwifi-source |
| 22:20.29 | judd | abrotman: madwifi-source -- etch/non-free: 1:0.9.2+r1842.20061207-2etch2 lenny/non-free: 1:0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1 sid/non-free: 1:0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1 |
| 22:20.38 | johndoe | !tell klotfare about floppy |
| 22:20.42 | mns | Stanlin: I would try what p0g0 is suggesting .. try to use ath5k first from www.ath5k.org and if that doesn't work then use the madwifi-source package. |
| 22:20.53 | mns | Stanlin: did you do an apt-get update ? |
| 22:21.30 | Stanlin | mns yes |
| 22:21.35 | p0g0 | Stanlin: if you'll note the list just shown- the .debs are all pretty old |
| 22:21.58 | Stanlin | mns im using ath5k atm, doesnt work its bugged, thats why i want to use madwifi |
| 22:22.07 | themill | Stanlin: please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 22:22.25 | mns | Stanlin: is it ath5k from the sources or from the kernel that comes with debian ? |
| 22:23.48 | johndoe | klotfare: maybe you could install etch and then upgrade to lenny if you have internet connection. |
| 22:23.50 | klotfare | johndoe: let me try |
| 22:23.54 | p0g0 | mns: ath5k doesn't exactly have sources so much- it's all git'd and the non-kernel stuff, iirc, needs a wireless-compat kernel |
| 22:24.03 | klotfare | yes i have internet connection |
| 22:24.10 | Stanlin | themill: http://pastebin.com/m33f1cdd2 |
| 22:24.14 | klotfare | just not cd/dvd or usb |
| 22:24.22 | klotfare | only floppy and internet :) |
| 22:24.50 | adb | klotfare: add in /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main |
| 22:24.51 | themill | Stanlin: eeepc.debian.net is not a complete debian mirror |
| 22:25.06 | klotfare | i dont have an exisitng OS installed |
| 22:25.11 | klotfare | just a blank HDD |
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| 22:25.33 | adb | when d -i will ask about mirror |
| 22:25.41 | Stanlin | themill: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Repository << somebody should a memo the person who wrote this |
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| 22:25.54 | p0g0 | mns: ath5k.org just redirects to madwifi-project, fwiw |
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| 22:27.15 | abrotman | Stanlin: it says *ADD* .. not replace .. that's your fault |
| 22:27.20 | mns | p0g0: yes it redirects. you are correct, but I couldn't remember the madwifi web .. :) I knew it would end up in the same place. |
| 22:27.28 | johndoe | klotfare: it seems that floppy's arent an option anymore (in lenny), but you could install etch with floppies then upgrade to lenny using your net connectino |
| 22:27.38 | adb | Stanlin: it's an EeePC ? |
| 22:27.40 | p0g0 | Stanlin: while heresy, the easy way out for you is to assure you have build-essentials, then just get the latest madwifi tarball, unpack it, then make;make install... |
| 22:28.01 | klotfare | johndoe: lets hope that the net-drivers will recognize my xircom network card :) |
| 22:28.12 | johndoe | :) |
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| 22:28.33 | abrotman | p0g0: please don't tell him to do that .. he can't handle editing files |
| 22:29.00 | Stanlin | p0g0: yeah i just go the tarballs.... |
| 22:29.12 | abrotman | Stanlin: if you do that, no one here will help you with them |
| 22:29.30 | p0g0 | Stanlin: rather than offend anyone here, join me in #madwifi |
| 22:29.43 | abrotman | oh this should go poorly .. |
| 22:29.46 | klotfare | at least debian has 4 img disk .... opensuse 20 :) not kidding |
| 22:29.59 | johndoe | haha |
| 22:29.59 | Stanlin | thanks gentlemen, ill join in a private oral session with p0g0 |
| 22:30.01 | p0g0 | abrotman: wrong- I've done madwifi support for about 3 years |
| 22:30.10 | abrotman | p0g0: i'm not concerned about you ... |
| 22:30.22 | Stanlin | nobody is at #p0g0 |
| 22:30.23 | p0g0 | abrotman: let me handle it then, thanks |
| 22:30.38 | p0g0 | Stanlin: join #madwifi |
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| 22:30.41 | Stanlin | my mistake |
| 22:30.47 | zzattack2 | I'm having a bit of trouble with ext4: there's a lot of stuff in lost+found that ended up there after a power failure. I restored what I needed, and now I want to empty lost+found.. However when I try to do this an error occurs and the filesystem is remounted read-only. Same problem remains after rebuilding the journal and a fsck |
| 22:31.17 | pl4yer0ne | i didnt know ext4 was marked stable? |
| 22:31.26 | mns | pl4yer0ne: it is now. |
| 22:31.27 | zzattack2 | it was in 2.6.27 |
| 22:32.03 | abrotman | zzattack2: there is no .27 kernel in debian |
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| 22:32.28 | zzattack2 | sorry i meant 2.6.28. and abrotman i compiled the kernel myself, but shoudl that make a difference? |
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| 22:32.46 | pl4yer0ne | yeah the difference is it isnt supported =D |
| 22:32.49 | johndoe | well, theres no such kernels in debian so you cant get support :S |
| 22:33.04 | zzattack2 | what if i take the .28 package from sid |
| 22:33.30 | abrotman | zzattack2: you might want to try single user mode? .. doubt it will help much |
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| 22:33.49 | zzattack2 | abrotman: I really doubt that. this is the log by the way http://rafb.net/p/kc7gYR54.html |
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| 22:34.43 | mandrake_c | hello, can you help me md5 checking some kernel modules? |
| 22:34.45 | klotfare | johndoe: its moving ... getting files from the net :) |
| 22:35.05 | johndoe | klotfare: i wish you the best of luck :) |
| 22:35.14 | abrotman | zzattack2: and you've fscked it a few times ? |
| 22:35.16 | johndoe | now i have to do some homework :S |
| 22:35.26 | klotfare | yeah |
| 22:35.43 | mandrake_c | netstat or something for net status |
| 22:35.47 | klotfare | tried with sarge but the http mirror was missing some files |
| 22:35.56 | zzattack2 | abrotman: yes, and removed the journal too |
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| 22:36.09 | klotfare | then with opensuse but 20 bootdisk and at a point it requested bootdisk A |
| 22:36.12 | klotfare | :) |
| 22:36.31 | mandrake_c | anyone want to help with an md5sum? |
| 22:36.37 | zzattack2 | mandrake_c: whats the problem |
| 22:36.46 | abrotman | mandrake_c: just run the program on the file .. what's the problem |
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| 22:36.48 | klotfare | now going with etch |
| 22:36.50 | fuks | hi, how fix W: ncmpcpp: new-package-should-close-itp-bug |
| 22:36.57 | mandrake_c | I just need to sum of the 8139too.o |
| 22:37.02 | foetus | fast reboot := |
| 22:37.03 | fuks | i make new package, my first package |
| 22:37.04 | abrotman | mandrake_c: man md5sum .. have fun |
| 22:37.17 | mandrake_c | I need your verification |
| 22:37.25 | zzattack2 | 582fe73f1ae3fd7f147c0a1de76a33b1 |
| 22:37.38 | zzattack2 | it's not gonna be helpfull though |
| 22:37.50 | abrotman | mandrake_c: it might help us if you tell us which kernel you're using and which architecture |
| 22:37.52 | mandrake_c | 582fe* that for the 8139too.o? |
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| 22:38.05 | zzattack2 | mandrake_c: yeah.. but for 2.6.28 |
| 22:38.06 | fuks | how fix W: ncmpcpp: new-package-should-close-itp-bug ? |
| 22:38.14 | abrotman | zzattack2: that's not going to help him at all |
| 22:38.17 | mandrake_c | 2132.4.27-3-386 |
| 22:38.20 | zzattack2 | mandrake_c: and with my system arch, with my compiler and everything |
| 22:38.25 | abrotman | mandrake_c: that's not a debian kernel |
| 22:38.41 | abrotman | oh wait .. it's from sarge ? |
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| 22:38.54 | abrotman | mandrake_c: what does `cat /proc/version` say ? |
| 22:38.58 | fuks | how fix W: ncmpcpp: new-package-should-close-itp-bug when i make debuild new package? |
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| 22:39.04 | abrotman | fuks: stop repeating .. jeez |
| 22:39.06 | fuks | ;[ |
| 22:39.08 | abrotman | five times in two minutes ... |
| 22:39.15 | abrotman | !tell fuks about mentors |
| 22:39.19 | fuks | desperation |
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| 22:40.41 | mandrake_c | maybe the entire kernel is crap. (vmlinuz-2.4.27-3-386 in /boot) |
| 22:41.11 | abrotman | mandrake_c: you're still running sarge .. why ? |
| 22:41.21 | mandrake_c | because Im lazy |
| 22:42.07 | mrjohns1 | could anyone recommend a configuration management software like. cfengine ? which is best for debian? |
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| 22:42.31 | zzattack2 | abrotman: would you know any steps I could take to further identify or eventually solve my problem? |
| 22:42.47 | abrotman | mandrake_c: you realize you haven't had a single security update in a year? |
| 22:43.03 | abrotman | zzattack2: don't use a brand new filesystem ? |
| 22:43.09 | mandrake_c | I did the apt-get upgrade |
| 22:43.09 | abrotman | zzattack2: fsck it from a live CD ? |
| 22:43.17 | abrotman | !tell mandrake_c about sarge->etch |
| 22:43.43 | zzattack2 | abrotman: I don't see how fsck from a livecd beats fsck on a unmounted filesystem |
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| 22:43.57 | mandrake_c | OK. Good idea. |
| 22:44.11 | abrotman | zzattack2: okay, then don't do it |
| 22:44.13 | zzattack2 | abrotman: also, my fsck is updated. the one in debian is outdated, and the devs strongly recommend the new version for some reason |
| 22:44.23 | zzattack2 | at least, thats what I heard :) |
| 22:44.49 | abrotman | yeah .. works well apparently |
| 22:45.05 | zzattack2 | I can also just mount the filesystem as ext3 without problems, so I dont think this is entirely ext4 related. |
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| 22:45.27 | mandrake_c | one thing more: Why do I have to change to root to make debian packages? |
| 22:45.46 | mandrake_c | ;-) |
| 22:45.56 | zzattack2 | you it appears as if you can set file permissions for example |
| 22:46.02 | _AleX_ | hi all! since lenny upgrade, bluetooth stop working : kbluetooth and kbluemon don't see bluetooth devices, but I can show the devices with 'hcitool scan' |
| 22:46.04 | zzattack2 | so it appears* |
| 22:46.16 | _AleX_ | I've try with an external bluetooth usb adapter, same problem, I've tested with a livecd, bluetooth hardware work (ie it's not a hardware problem) |
| 22:46.26 | _AleX_ | kbluemon say on console : arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() ware incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_path (path)" falied in file dbus-message.c line 1074. this is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library |
| 22:46.38 | _AleX_ | can you help me with dbus ? |
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| 22:49.45 | mandrake_c | At least the system is quite stable, so no hurry. |
| 22:52.20 | mandrake_c | What's the latest debian glibc? |
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| 22:52.54 | themill | judd versions libc6 |
| 22:52.54 | judd | themill: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-4 sid: 2.9-6 |
| 22:53.17 | mandrake_c | 6.3* or something later? |
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| 22:54.49 | mrjohns1 | could anyone recommend a configuration management software like. cfengine ? which is best for debian? |
| 22:54.56 | mandrake_c | oh I didn't see it. mine is 2.3.6 too |
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| 22:55.47 | abrotman | mandrake_c: you need to finish your dist-upgrade .. what is your CPU ? |
| 22:55.50 | Mifor | hello, i just upgraded from etch do lenny, every thing whent fine exept for some programs in X got realy small or blurry fonts |
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| 22:56.14 | Mifor | tryed to reinstall the Nvidia drivers from ther homepage... no change :( |
| 22:56.22 | mandrake_c | something like elfi286 |
| 22:56.26 | pl4yer0ne | mrjohns1, I use perforce but its maybe overkill or not suitable for config www.perforce.com |
| 22:56.27 | mandrake_c | i386 sry |
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| 22:57.34 | Mifor | only stuff that does not have blurry fonts are iceweesel and the terminal... and desktop |
| 22:57.35 | PeterFA | How on Earth do I build Firefox for Debian Squeeze? |
| 22:57.40 | PeterFA | I'm having a bugger of a time configuring it. |
| 22:58.01 | Mifor | all programs like icedowe and mostly all other programs iwe tryed got small or blurry fonts |
| 22:58.02 | pl4yer0ne | PeterFA, why are you trying to build FF? |
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| 22:58.06 | abrotman | mandrake_c: it's your computer .. check what CPU it has |
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| 22:58.25 | mandrake_c | it says: elfi386 |
| 22:58.27 | lymeca | I have marked changes in aptitude which are invoking dependency hell. How can I reset all marked changes so I can start over? |
| 22:58.41 | lymeca | Nevermind, found it. |
| 22:58.55 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, it's really Flock, a Firefox derivitive. |
| 22:58.59 | abrotman | mandrake_c: cat /proc/cpuinfo .. put it in a pastebin |
| 22:59.13 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, the published .deb is for Ubuntu and hardly works on Debian. |
| 22:59.20 | pl4yer0ne | ah ok |
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| 22:59.35 | mandrake_c | here it is: Pentium II |
| 23:00.38 | Mifor | i cant be the only one with this issue in an etch->lenny upgrade :( |
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| 23:01.01 | pl4yer0ne | what version of debian your using PeterFA ? |
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| 23:01.15 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, Squeeze |
| 23:01.26 | pl4yer0ne | nice - stand by and i' |
| 23:01.31 | pl4yer0ne | ll try and compile |
| 23:01.40 | pl4yer0ne | stupid enter key |
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| 23:02.24 | pl4yer0ne | wait... it doesnt even need to compile? |
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| 23:03.34 | pl4yer0ne | it works fine PeterFA whats your problem? |
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| 23:04.19 | JavaUser | looking for a web developer for a gaming project |
| 23:04.51 | mandrake_c | <- is good at shell-scripting |
| 23:04.53 | themill | JavaUser: we don't normally have personals in #debian. |
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| 23:05.12 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, what works fine? |
| 23:05.19 | pl4yer0ne | flock |
| 23:05.26 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, it doesn't work fine for me. |
| 23:05.31 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, how do you install it? |
| 23:05.38 | pl4yer0ne | yeah thats why i asked what your issue was? |
| 23:05.54 | pl4yer0ne | I downloaded the tar.bz2 from flock.com/versions |
| 23:06.03 | pl4yer0ne | and unpacked it |
| 23:06.22 | nse | Hello everybody. Is there a way to make a pc104 keyboard to impress "ç", "é", "ã" and "ê"? |
| 23:06.34 | pl4yer0ne | ran ./flock-browser and it fired up no problems |
| 23:06.35 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, well, when I ran it, it search for all these missing things, I added symlinks so that it could find them. Then it would start. |
| 23:06.42 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, a lot of functions however won't work. |
| 23:06.50 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, like the part that finds any RSS feeds. |
| 23:06.58 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, and the email stuff won't work. |
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| 23:07.51 | themill | dpkg: tell nse about compose |
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| 23:08.04 | pl4yer0ne | it all seems to work ok for me |
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| 23:09.48 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, well, it doesn't for me. |
| 23:10.23 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, when I do attempt to configure the source, I get a block of errors about some GTK+ libraries, and even glibc2.0. |
| 23:10.35 | PeterFA | I don't know how to solve this. |
| 23:10.49 | pl4yer0ne | where are you getting this all from because i didnt have to compile anything at all? it was ready to run |
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| 23:11.38 | SQlvpapir^ | gksu does not work.. this is a basic lenny upgraded to squeeze just after install. It just behaves as if the password was wrong.. any tips |
| 23:11.40 | SQlvpapir^ | ? |
| 23:12.31 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, I had to go to the developer page to get the source code to compile it. |
| 23:12.42 | abrotman | Flock is really not worth it |
| 23:12.48 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, I too didn't have to compile anything, but extract the binaries. I currently run them, but not much works. |
| 23:12.48 | pl4yer0ne | why? why not just use the pre-compiled ones |
| 23:12.58 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, I told you, things don't work. |
| 23:13.03 | PeterFA | abrotman, I'm begging to think that way |
| 23:13.17 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, stuff like the email component and RSS feed stuff doesn't work. |
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| 23:13.33 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, if they did I wouldn't be whining about it. |
| 23:13.49 | pl4yer0ne | the email component is just links isnt it? |
| 23:13.56 | Mifor | guys, i realy need help with the font issue with the lenny upgrade... stuff is so small in icedove you cant read folder names |
| 23:14.01 | pl4yer0ne | like it just opens up the gmail/hotmal/yahoo login page |
| 23:14.09 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, if you click on an email link, it does nothing. |
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| 23:14.24 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, that's what I'm saying, it doesn't work, which means browser has an issue. |
| 23:14.43 | rocko | how do I get xpress 200m to work on debian for 3d? |
| 23:14.48 | rocko | it works fine in ubuntu |
| 23:15.13 | pl4yer0ne | ok well I am using debian testing and it all works perfectly with the pre-compiled versions. so I would suggest that you have some other local issues. |
| 23:15.57 | PeterFA | Largely I suspect the stupid build as the fault because it seeks for stuff in the wrong directories, which suggest it was build on a different system that doesn't match the layout of Debian. |
| 23:16.12 | PeterFA | Maybe a missing repository. |
| 23:16.31 | pl4yer0ne | Except it works fine for me. so YOUR system is probably the one thats different somehow. |
| 23:16.38 | mandrake_c | just found a 2.6 kernel, can I just install it without removing the old kernel? |
| 23:17.18 | pl4yer0ne | PeterFA, have you got much locally compiled packages? |
| 23:17.35 | PeterFA | http://rafb.net/p/CIIE2F97.html <-- anyone want to tell me if there's an important repo I'm missing for a Desktop system? |
| 23:17.48 | PeterFA | pl4yer0ne, none. |
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| 23:17.56 | abrotman | mandrake_c: did you ever paste your CPU stuff in the pastebin ? |
| 23:18.11 | mandrake_c | yep, it's Pentium II |
| 23:18.12 | abrotman | mandrake_c: aptitude install linux-image-686 .. |
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| 23:18.28 | rocko | :( |
| 23:18.42 | PeterFA | There possibly is something really odd with my system. Only on this system have I ever had trouble compiling anything. I couldn't compile the kernel, nor Flock. |
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| 23:18.46 | mandrake_c | OK :-) |
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| 23:19.24 | PeterFA | rocko, get the proprietary drivers. |
| 23:19.36 | abrotman | mandrake_c: or apt-get .. whichever you're using .. though aptitude is preferred |
| 23:19.37 | rocko | they work like crap |
| 23:19.39 | nse | "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'" didn`t work for me even after a X restart. |
| 23:19.51 | mandrake_c | When I install the new kernel, will the old one remain in /boot ? |
| 23:19.57 | PeterFA | mandrake_c, yes. |
| 23:20.00 | mandrake_c | fine |
| 23:20.03 | PeterFA | I gotta go. |
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| 23:20.04 | PeterFA | Adios. |
| 23:20.05 | rocko | compared to the open source ones on ubuntu PeterFA |
| 23:20.13 | rocko | they work like crap |
| 23:20.18 | PeterFA | shrugs helplessly at rocko. |
| 23:20.23 | rocko | on ubuntu 3d works out of the box |
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| 23:20.43 | mandrake_c | later |
| 23:21.06 | rocko | it uses open source drivers |
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| 23:21.22 | rocko | when i use the proprietary ones fps is much lower |
| 23:21.27 | themill | nse: I actually use "setxkbmap -option compose:caps" to turn the caps lock into the compose key |
| 23:21.32 | rocko | than the open source ones on ubuntu |
| 23:22.00 | rocko | what should I do PeterFA ? |
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| 23:22.31 | rocko | I followed this guide no go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonXpress PeterFA |
| 23:23.08 | rocko | I assumed that it would work similar to debian to get it to work |
| 23:23.19 | rocko | like on ubuntu |
| 23:23.31 | rocko | since both are debian based but are not the same I know |
| 23:23.49 | rocko | debian based meaning the package system |
| 23:23.55 | rocko | in use |
| 23:25.39 | rocko | I used this guide it worked http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Installing_from_Debian_non-free did it for lenny |
| 23:25.45 | rocko | but the fps is really low |
| 23:25.51 | rocko | compared to on ubuntu |
| 23:26.08 | rocko | with the open source drivers that are the default right out of the box |
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| 23:29.29 | NiggaJewChink | hai guise |
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| 23:29.32 | nse | themill: and which command I would use to turn the windows key into the compose key? |
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| 23:29.40 | NiggaJewChink | i herd u liek cp |
| 23:30.20 | avu | NiggaJewChink, go back to /b/ |
| 23:30.36 | NiggaJewChink | hai avu! |
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| 23:31.03 | themill | nse: I use KControlCentre to set it up; it tells me that "setxkbmap -option compose:rwin" should work. I don't have a right windoze key to test that out though... |
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| 23:32.56 | abrotman | LoRez: thanks |
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| 23:35.08 | pflanze | Hello. I want to set up a second disk as a copy of another one. What problem I'm running into is creating partitions of exactly the same size. |
| 23:35.27 | Akuw | i have problems to mount nfs: mount: Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock when i try to mount the nfs |
| 23:35.34 | pflanze | cfdisk nor fdisk, neither the gnu nor normal versions seem to generate the sizes I'm telling them. Any suggestion? |
| 23:35.55 | Akuw | my /etc/exports /home 192.168.1.101(ro) |
| 23:36.03 | man_in_shack | is there a way to remove i386 packages installed using ia32-apt-get? |
| 23:36.36 | MarGarina | Akuw: paste your mount command |
| 23:37.01 | MarGarina | pflanze: Did you try to simply dd the disk? (when it's umounted) |
| 23:37.09 | Akuw | mount 192.168.1.100:/home /media/server |
| 23:37.45 | MarGarina | akuw: rpcinfo -p 192.168.1.100 | grep mount |
| 23:37.45 | pflanze | MarGarina: hm, actually no, but I thought of it before I realized that: it's a 1TB disc, so would take ~9 hours; |
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| 23:37.58 | pflanze | so I wanted to proceed 1 partition at a time instead. |
| 23:38.12 | MarGarina | pflanze: Ah, good point. I'm not too sure, but maybe you can dd only the partition table. |
| 23:38.44 | MarGarina | akuw: it checks if the server runs a mount daemon |
| 23:38.45 | Akuw | ok, i got |
| 23:38.45 | pflanze | MarGarina: I've tried to copy the mbr, but this gives fdisk -l "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite)" and it will not show the extended partitions. |
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| 23:39.12 | Akuw | 1000005 1 udp 57467 mountd |
| 23:39.14 | pflanze | Also, it seems that every disk is getting an id, and by just dd'ing the mbr or whole disk it might confuse some tools or the kernel, dunno. |
| 23:39.17 | Akuw | and so on |
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| 23:39.52 | pflanze | So why the h* do the partitioning tools not support dumping and restoring partition tables? |
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| 23:40.01 | rocko | saluton |
| 23:40.30 | rocko | it looks like it is the game gl-117 that is causing the problem |
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| 23:40.51 | rocko | it seems to be picking the wrong driver or something |
| 23:41.11 | MarGarina | Akuw: I'd check /var/log/messages and dmesg on both client & server |
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| 23:41.24 | MarGarina | pflanze: I don't know then. weird stuff. |
| 23:41.38 | MarGarina | pflanze: Maybe parted would rescue you :) |
| 23:41.44 | rocko | because I am doing glxgears right now and I am getting 300-466 fps PeterFA |
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| 23:42.23 | rocko | why would gl-117 be reporting fps such as 1-10 |
| 23:42.34 | rocko | when I play it |
| 23:42.40 | rocko | it says fps is too slow |
| 23:42.48 | rocko | *low |
| 23:43.33 | adb | rocko: try #compiz |
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| 23:44.10 | Akuw | MarGarina: now? |
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| 23:44.46 | MarGarina | akuw: When running the mount command, maybe it throws some error |
| 23:44.54 | mimiloon | hi everybody, how do i remove third party software from debian? |
| 23:45.07 | MarGarina | akuw: although it's weird, I think that's not the type of error message that I get for bad NFS mount... |
| 23:45.17 | rocko | I am not using compiz adb |
| 23:45.30 | Akuw | but what could be the problem' |
| 23:45.32 | adb | mimiloon: as you installed |
| 23:45.41 | MarGarina | akuw: add -t nfs -o vers=2 or -o vers=3 |
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| 23:46.07 | MarGarina | akuw: and run exportfs on the server to make sure it's well-set |
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| 23:47.26 | mimiloon | adb: i've used this method: apt-get install virtualbox-2.1 |
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| 23:48.06 | MarGarina | mimiloon: apt-get remove |
| 23:48.08 | mimiloon | adb: i'm trying to reinstall it but i get an errr |
| 23:48.12 | jpinx | mimiloon: try aptitude purge <package> |
| 23:48.14 | MarGarina | or apt-get remove --purge |
| 23:48.39 | jpinx | mimiloon: aptitude is better than apt-get |
| 23:48.53 | mimiloon | thanks everyone |
| 23:48.54 | MarGarina | mimiloon: apt-get is better than aptitude |
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| 23:49.03 | MarGarina | =) |
| 23:49.09 | Akuw | MarGarina: i run exportfs -- got nothing |
| 23:49.11 | jpinx | MarGarina: your references? |
| 23:49.22 | MarGarina | jpinx: was kidding (or: trying to start a holy war) |
| 23:49.41 | jpinx | MarGarina: please give your best advise on this # |
| 23:50.01 | adb | judd: versions virtualbox |
| 23:50.01 | judd | adb: virtualbox -- |
| 23:50.11 | adb | judd: versions virtualbox lenny |
| 23:50.11 | judd | adb: virtualbox -- |
| 23:50.26 | MarGarina | akuw: you need to restart the nfs service for /etc/exportfs to take effect |
| 23:50.41 | MarGarina | i.e. /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart |
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| 23:51.07 | jpinx | judd: versions vbox |
| 23:51.08 | judd | jpinx: vbox -- |
| 23:51.16 | adb | . |
| 23:51.17 | nayx | virtualbox-ose ? |
| 23:51.26 | adb | judd: versions virtualbox-ose |
| 23:51.27 | judd | adb: virtualbox-ose -- etch-backports: 1.6.6-dfsg-3~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3 lenny-backports: 2.1.4-dfsg-1~bpo50+1 sid: 2.1.4-dfsg-1 squeeze: 2.1.4-dfsg-1 |
| 23:51.32 | Akuw | how can i restart? |
| 23:51.40 | MarGarina | akuw: I just wrote in the 'i.e.' line |
| 23:51.45 | jpinx | adb: ;) |
| 23:51.47 | adb | !win nayx |
| 23:51.47 | dpkg | Congratulations, nayx! You have won the US presidency! |
| 23:51.59 | man_in_shack | grumbles |
| 23:52.03 | nayx | :O |
| 23:52.14 | man_in_shack | i can't find any of the i386 packages that ia32-apt-get is installing |
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| 23:53.25 | themill | man_in_shack: have you looked in /usr/share/doc/ia32-apt-get/README.Debian? |
| 23:53.32 | man_in_shack | yes |
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| 23:54.26 | Akuw | ok, restarted...but same problem |
| 23:54.27 | man_in_shack | "Library package names are prefixed with ia32-" << they're not showing up in aptitude |
| 23:55.17 | MarGarina | akuw: then something in your /etc/exportfs is probably wrong |
| 23:56.00 | Akuw | what should be installed in? |
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| 23:56.11 | MarGarina | akuw: Anyway just for testing, you can manually add an export by 'exportfs client-ip:/home' |
| 23:56.15 | Akuw | i mean i can use apt-cache to see if somehting messing |
| 23:56.40 | MarGarina | akuw: /etc/exports should simply have the lines for each path that you wish to export |
| 23:57.09 | MarGarina | i.e. "/home client_ip(ro)" |
| 23:57.12 | MarGarina | for read only sharing /home |
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| 23:57.47 | Akuw | this is the line in export ----> /home 192.168.1.101(ro) |
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| 23:57.52 | Akuw | exports sorry |
| 23:58.33 | MarGarina | sounds good. Dunno why it won't be added automatically. Try it manually 'exportfs -o ro 192.168.1.101:/home'. |
| 23:58.58 | Akuw | that is what happen when i used exports 192.168.1.101:/home |
| 23:59.01 | Akuw | exportfs: /etc/exports [3]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.1.101:/home". |
| 23:59.01 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.01 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:59.41 | MarGarina | akuw: okay, now try to mount :) |