| 00:00.08 | clearscreen1 | derStuGGr: i had the same problem |
| 00:00.10 | clearscreen1 | try this |
| 00:00.10 | clearscreen1 | hold on |
| 00:00.12 | derStuGGr | eroor from the sound preferences window |
| 00:00.28 | clearscreen1 | try this |
| 00:00.30 | clearscreen1 | killall pulseaudio |
| 00:00.30 | clearscreen1 | sudo alsa force-reload |
| 00:00.30 | clearscreen1 | pulseaudio -D |
| 00:00.33 | derStuGGr | k |
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| 00:03.16 | derStuGGr | clearscreen1: it's saying the pulseaudio daemon startup failed... i wonder if I installed it correctly from synaptic? |
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| 00:03.48 | clearscreen1 | not sure, those 3 commands fixed it for me |
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| 00:05.03 | johndoe | how do i change the general theme in KDE? |
| 00:05.23 | johndoe | window colors, button layout |
| 00:05.46 | asg|nb | johndoe: if nobody here knows, you may wish to consult #debian-kde |
| 00:05.53 | johndoe | k |
| 00:06.13 | johndoe | maybe kde better ;p |
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| 00:08.02 | jelly-home | corran: "/msg dpkg sdn" for old packages, and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel to build linux-kbuild-* by yourself |
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| 00:08.27 | extor | Besides /etc/apt/sources.lst where else can I find clues as to how a certain etch distro has been modified from stock? I am looking at a proxmox installation that I installed off their iso CD and I just need to figure out how to migrate regular etch boxes to proxmox boxes |
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| 00:08.39 | bzed | nabilelisa: man make-kpkg :) |
| 00:08.46 | bzed | nabilelisa: that explains pretty much |
| 00:09.11 | bzed | nabilelisa: or /usr/share/doc/kernel-package |
| 00:09.55 | extor | Besides /etc/apt/sources.lst where else can I find clues as to how a certain etch distro has been modified from stock? I am looking at a proxmox installation that I installed off their iso CD and I just need to figure out how to migrate regular etch boxes to proxmox boxes |
| 00:10.09 | nabilelisa | bzed: thanks, will do |
| 00:10.30 | bzed | extor: ask them for their sources and compare them with etch |
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| 00:11.08 | extor | bzed is there a quicker way to check though? Like for instance the sources.lst is a key file, are there any other key files or scripts? |
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| 00:11.49 | bzed | extor: nothing you cold use automatically |
| 00:11.59 | extor | I was thinking perhaps I could take an etch installation, add the proxmox repositories and upgrade the kernel? |
| 00:12.14 | extor | Or is it way way way more complex |
| 00:12.16 | bzed | extor: even if the version numbers are the same, you can't be sure the package is the same. you could compare md5sums, though |
| 00:12.36 | bzed | doubt its as easy as you think :) |
| 00:12.38 | extor | ya but proxmox has the standard debian repositories in sources.lst |
| 00:12.41 | Rioting_Pacifist | wierd ive killed kicker and i no longer get the stuttering, (i was using kasbar) does this make any sense? |
| 00:12.54 | bzed | extor: where do they get their extra packages from? |
| 00:13.01 | bzed | extor: do they have additional sources in the lsit? |
| 00:13.10 | extor | bzed, extra packages? Probly self rolled |
| 00:13.21 | datag | is there a seperate channel for debian packages/package maintainers? |
| 00:13.27 | extor | bzed, yeah they have their proxmox repository listed |
| 00:13.41 | bzed | extor: apt-cache policy whill show you where a package comes from |
| 00:14.39 | extor | bzed, besides their custom rolled kernel they have other stuff floating around too...hrmm I just need to know how I can "upgrade" a debian etch dedicated server handed over to me by a datacenter into a proxmox box |
| 00:14.40 | infernix | anyone on sid and using 2.6.29? I'm getting process freezes (can't be killed with -9) when apt-get installing. it hangs when its "Processing triggers for man-db" |
| 00:15.04 | extor | with hypervm you can do it by just running a script---but...with proxmox there is no script---just that iso installer |
| 00:15.04 | infernix | have to reboot -f to get the box back to a working state |
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| 00:15.20 | infernix | oddly enough i can build a full kernel package with make-kpkg without any issues |
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| 00:15.48 | infernix | problem goes away when i make-kpkg and boot to a 2.6.28.9 kernel |
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| 00:17.11 | nabilelisa | bzed: i'm trying to learn linux better and i've decided that a nice place to start would be to try and make a custom and very minimal kernel. unfortunately each time i try my machine fails to boot. i've read the resources you provided me but they seem to be quite long-winded and some of them are quite technical. are you aware of a "newbie" guide for this sort of thing? |
| 00:18.15 | bzed | nabilelisa: building a kernel is not really a newbie thing... |
| 00:18.27 | theholyduck | bzed, but its hard to cock up aswell :P |
| 00:18.31 | theholyduck | in my experience anyway |
| 00:19.02 | bzed | nabilelisa: building a kernel is a good idea to learn things, though |
| 00:19.08 | bzed | nabilelisa: but that means reading things ;) |
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| 00:19.14 | theholyduck | seriously, you just enable the hardware you got and the filesystems you need to boot. |
| 00:19.21 | theholyduck | and thats pretty much it |
| 00:19.44 | theholyduck | and networking driver aswell obviously. |
| 00:19.49 | bzed | nabilelisa: make-kpkg --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot --revision 1 kernel_package |
| 00:19.59 | bzed | nabilelisa: that will help you probably :) |
| 00:20.10 | nabilelisa | bzed: fair enough - if that's the only way then i'm happy to invest the time. i just didn't want to read loads of docs only to realise there was a better way |
| 00:20.12 | bzed | nabilelisa: you should still read the manpage and understand it |
| 00:20.15 | nabilelisa | cool, will try |
| 00:21.43 | felix_da_catz | Alright. Heres the situation. I have a couple of dedicated servers with a hosting company. They are both running sarge and they both have a 2.4 kernel. So I really want to change this right now. |
| 00:21.51 | oracleofmist | can anyone offer help with a pureftpd issue? |
| 00:22.06 | felix_da_catz | My question is what should I upgrade first? The kernel or the distribution? |
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| 00:23.45 | nabilelisa | bzed: make-kpkg --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot --revision 1 kernel_package << what does kernel_package represent? |
| 00:23.56 | nabilelisa | bzed: am i meant to have a .deb version of a new kernel? |
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| 00:26.06 | oracleofmist | pureftpd troubleshooting anyone? |
| 00:26.36 | bzed | nabilelisa: ah sorry, it's kernel+image |
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| 00:26.42 | bzed | nabilelisa: kernel_image |
| 00:26.55 | bzed | nabilelisa: I'm not awake anymore. search the manpage for kernel_image :) |
| 00:27.37 | nabilelisa | bzed: hehe ok. thanks for all your advice - it's much appreciated! |
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| 00:34.23 | simonrvn | oracleofmist: instead of asking, just state your issue, people will get to it a lot faster. |
| 00:34.33 | simonrvn | !tell oracleofmist -about ask |
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| 00:36.33 | derStuGGr | i coudn't figure it out f-it |
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| 00:38.18 | oracleofmist | simonrvn: thanks well for some reason after i restarted the computer i can only ftp in from localhost, if i do it from another computer on the lan i get error 421 connection closed by remote host |
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| 00:38.59 | derStuGGr | <grilled cheese time |
| 00:39.39 | asdf | anyone having suspend/hibernate problems with 2.6.26-1-686? 2.6.18 worked nicely |
| 00:39.55 | asdf | i'm running a thinkpad x61 |
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| 00:40.18 | simonrvn | oracleofmist: logs? google "421 error FTP pure-ftpd" ? |
| 00:43.03 | Loka | No filesystem could mount root, tried: |
| 00:43.04 | Loka | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 00:43.19 | karsten | Loka: Generally means you've got grub misconfigured |
| 00:43.35 | karsten | Loka: Have you ever ooted that system? |
| 00:43.35 | Loka | what can i have done wrong? i used make oldconfig, make-kpkg |
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| 00:43.56 | ryan-c | Loka: you probably have a fauled up initrd, bad kenerl command line, or... You didn't compile in the drivers needed for your root filesystem |
| 00:43.57 | jelly-home | Loka: givena wrong root= boot parameter? |
| 00:44.24 | Loka | ah fuck i forgot --initrd with make-kpkg :( |
| 00:44.28 | karsten | Loka: what jelly-home said. You can get an interactive grub commandline and try finding the proper boot device yourself. |
| 00:44.28 | felix_da_catz | oracleofmist: You probably have a firewall issue. Try stopping your firewall and see if you can connect from outside. |
| 00:44.39 | karsten | Loka: That'll do it. Got your old kernel and boot line? |
| 00:45.04 | Loka | and is there a way to tell grub to boot other kernel if the actual has kernel panic? |
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| 00:45.33 | karsten | Loka: Yes, I think, but don't recall the syntax, nor have I ever managed to get it to do that. |
| 00:45.49 | karsten | Loka: Local or remote system? |
| 00:46.00 | ryan-c | Loka: Configuring it to kexec another kernel on panic is also a possibility |
| 00:46.05 | Ace2017_- | where can one ask for new packages? |
| 00:46.19 | Loka | karsten remote using remote management card :) |
| 00:46.33 | ryan-c | Loka: and not that by default, a kernel panic does not automatically result in a reboot |
| 00:46.35 | karsten | !tell Ace2017_- about rfp |
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| 00:46.45 | karsten | Loka: Got BIOS on that card? |
| 00:46.50 | ryan-c | Loka: Pass it panic=30 or something like that. |
| 00:46.52 | Ace2017_- | i want debian to get updated versions of compiz-fusion, its at 0.8.2 and the repos are at 0.7.6-8 |
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| 00:47.06 | karsten | Loka: You're going to need to be able to talk to grub. |
| 00:47.19 | karsten | Loka: How are you finding out aobut the panic? |
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| 00:47.36 | Loka | karsten i have remote management card with my supermicro mobo |
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| 00:48.13 | psychonate | fancy |
| 00:48.15 | karsten | Loka: If that gives you BIOS and GRUB you're golden. I don't know specs on that though, so you've got to tell us |
| 00:48.31 | karsten | psychonate: Pretty bog standard these days. I'd bin any kit without it. |
| 00:48.43 | Loka | karsten it does |
| 00:48.52 | oracleofmist | simonrvn: the only logs i have are /var/pure-ftp/transfer.logs and google seems to point towards a config issue but i don't know where a config file is since there doesn't seem to be one in /etc/pure-ftpd |
| 00:48.57 | Loka | i just resetted and said to boot old kernel |
| 00:49.02 | psychonate | karsten, I suspect I may need a larger trash can |
| 00:49.39 | karsten | Loka: At GRUB prompt, up/down arrow to get the appropriate boot stanza. 'c' for commandline, 'e' to edit, 'b' to boot when you're ready. |
| 00:49.44 | karsten | Loka: There's interactive help |
| 00:49.56 | Loka | karsten: my original problem was this: http://pastebin.com/d231a2660 |
| 00:50.13 | Loka | karsten i know lol :) |
| 00:50.14 | JW | I can't get VMware tools to compile the vmmemctl module on Lenny - anyone else run into this? |
| 00:50.14 | karsten | psychonate: there's a way to set/save default boot stanza. I foreget the specifics. Read GRUB docs. |
| 00:50.16 | simonrvn | oracleofmist: there's a default setup, but you can tweak it further by adding appropriate files with various options described in the docs. |
| 00:50.25 | karsten | Loka: OK |
| 00:50.36 | Loka | can you check out http://pastebin.com/d231a2660 |
| 00:50.44 | psychonate | karsten, how will that solve my trash can issue ;) ? |
| 00:50.53 | felix_da_catz | Should I dist-upgrade from sarge first or upgrade my kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 first? |
| 00:51.56 | oracleofmist | simonrvn: where would I find the file that configures dns resolve? |
| 00:51.58 | karsten | psychonate: It won't |
| 00:52.05 | oracleofmist | i saw something on google pointing to that being an issue |
| 00:52.06 | karsten | oracleofmist: /etc/bind for bind9 |
| 00:52.23 | simonrvn | start in /usr/sgare/doc/pure-ftpd* |
| 00:52.25 | karsten | oracleofmist: 'dpkg -l' your nameserver package. |
| 00:52.27 | simonrvn | share* |
| 00:53.07 | oracleofmist | well i don't use a dns server but pure-ftpd has an option to do dns resolve |
| 00:53.14 | oracleofmist | and it causes an issue for lans |
| 00:53.33 | oracleofmist | i just don't where that option would be in pure-ftpd |
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| 00:54.00 | simonrvn | be wise to turn that off anyway, since it's extra bandwidth and processing time. |
| 00:54.12 | simonrvn | /usr/share/doc/pure-ftpd |
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| 00:54.18 | simonrvn | and such |
| 00:54.35 | karsten | oracleofmist: /var/lib/dpkg/info/pure-ftpd.conffiles will list configuration files |
| 00:54.37 | gmap | can someone help me with a permission problem. Heres a screenshot http://i40.tinypic.com/27yzm6v.png |
| 00:54.57 | Ace2017_- | karsten: it doesn't say RFP is for asking for a new versio |
| 00:54.58 | karsten | oracleofmist: Generally: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.* has interesting stuff in it. |
| 00:55.12 | karsten | Ace2017_-: wishlist bug |
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| 00:55.41 | karsten | !tell Ace2017_- about excuses |
| 00:55.47 | dondelelcaro | gmap: the output of id; should be informative. |
| 00:55.48 | Ace2017_- | lol |
| 00:56.05 | gmap | dondelelcaro whats that mean |
| 00:56.32 | dondelelcaro | gmap: run id. You'll most likely find that you're not actually a user with access to that directory. alternatively, see the output ls -al; |
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| 00:58.29 | gmap | dondelelcaro heres a screenshot of the result. Let me know if you can help http://i40.tinypic.com/f022f.png |
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| 01:02.12 | dondelelcaro | gmap: and what is the output of stat firefox; ? what filesystem is this? |
| 01:02.32 | dondelelcaro | gmap: what happens when you cd ~user/.mozilla/firefox; ? |
| 01:03.14 | gmap | dondelelcaro http://i44.tinypic.com/htshfc.png |
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| 01:03.46 | gmap | dondelelcaro squashfs |
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| 01:04.31 | dondelelcaro | check dmesg then, because firefox has the right permissions |
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| 01:04.53 | felix_da_catz | humm. Fun times. I ran into trouble just running apt-get upgrade. Now I am getting errors with libc6 trying to install. It won't install on a 2.4 kernel |
| 01:05.22 | felix_da_catz | So the question is now that since I am at an unstable state, how can I get back to where I need to be so I can install a new kernel? |
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| 01:06.09 | gmap | dondelelcaro what should i expect to find in dmesg? |
| 01:06.18 | durka42 | do all the scripts in /etc/cron.daily get run automatically or do I have to also add them to a crontab somewhere? |
| 01:06.35 | dondelelcaro | gmap: some error that tells you why it can't change directories; there's nothing wrong with the permissions, so it's almost certainly filesystem specific |
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| 01:07.11 | dondelelcaro | gmap: the contents of /proc/mounts may also be useful. what system is this, anyway? |
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| 01:07.21 | abrotman | durka42: they should be run automatically, as long as the perms are correct and there is no . in the filename |
| 01:07.31 | gmap | dondelelcaro debian live cd |
| 01:07.37 | durka42 | and with root permissions, yes? |
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| 01:08.33 | abrotman | durka42: is one failing to run? |
| 01:08.44 | durka42 | no, i'm writing one |
| 01:09.03 | dondelelcaro | gmap: and what does ls -l ~user/.mozilla/firefox; do? |
| 01:09.40 | felix_da_catz | how can I find out if I have an intel processor or AMD on my machine? |
| 01:09.51 | dkr | felix_da_catz: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:10.01 | gmap | dondelelcaro cannot open directory permission denied |
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| 01:10.25 | felix_da_catz | ahh. Way too easy. Thanks dkr |
| 01:10.34 | dondelelcaro | gmap: *shrug*; see the output of cat /proc/mounts; then. In any event, the problem is almost certainly with squashfs |
| 01:11.06 | felix_da_catz | Sempron is not 64bit right? |
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| 01:11.13 | abrotman | depends on the sempron |
| 01:11.18 | felix_da_catz | 3000+ |
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| 01:11.28 | abrotman | that's not what i meant |
| 01:11.31 | gmap | dondelelcaro could this message from dmesg mean anything? "mtrr: your processor doesn't support write-combining" |
| 01:11.36 | felix_da_catz | sorry. I am searching. |
| 01:11.36 | dondelelcaro | no |
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| 01:11.50 | abner | hello |
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| 01:12.23 | abner | can anyone help me out mounting a vista share on samba? |
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| 01:13.08 | psychonate | Someone might be able to... if you he/she knows what the problem is |
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| 01:13.18 | iateadonut | in a DHT network, how does a new node find the other nodes? |
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| 01:14.42 | abner | what is wrong with this command: mount -t smbfs -o username=charlie, password=random //dick/c /mnt/dick |
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| 01:15.07 | merlincorey | abner: it didn't ask if it was ok to fsck first |
| 01:15.09 | iateadonut | use the ip address instead of the name |
| 01:15.15 | iateadonut | abner |
| 01:15.16 | nayx | abner: smbfs is obsolete, try to use cifs |
| 01:16.01 | iateadonut | you could also try apt-get install smb4k - a gui program for that if you have X |
| 01:16.23 | iateadonut |  in a DHT network (for bit torrent), how does a new node find the other nodes? |
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| 01:17.25 | gmap | dondelelcaro could it be beause im using aufs instead of unionfs? (i have no idea what they mean) |
| 01:18.15 | abner | mount -t cifs -o username=charlie, password=chuck 168.192.xx.20 /mnt/chuck ,,,this also does not work. |
| 01:18.32 | zamuro | is there a way to grep several strings at a time via regular expressions? |
| 01:18.39 | dondelelcaro | zamuro: yes. |
| 01:18.42 | nayx | abner: the options must not contain whitespace |
| 01:18.48 | dondelelcaro | zamuro: see the -e option of grep |
| 01:18.52 | zamuro | OK. |
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| 01:19.46 | dondelelcaro | (or multiple invocations of grep, depending on what you want) |
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| 01:21.52 | felix_da_catz | wow. Why haven't I been using deselect all this time. |
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| 01:24.24 | abrotman | because it's not fun ? |
| 01:25.02 | Adrian` | how do i change what program "places" uses to open folders? |
| 01:25.16 | dondelelcaro | huh? |
| 01:25.44 | Adrian` | maybe it's a gnome thing, in the top where i have applications, places, and system |
| 01:26.39 | Adrian` | when i click places and home it opens my home folder with the default file browser but i have pcman installed and i want to use that |
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| 01:28.03 | nkuttler | Adrian`: i doubt gnome will allow you to change that. try #gnome |
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| 01:32.27 | Adrian` | k |
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| 01:36.10 | abner | thanks all. |
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| 01:48.11 | bmoll8 | recently, my server began having problems. When I restart it, it will power on for about 3 seconds, and then die. I have replaced the psu, and the ram; same problem. Is this a motherboard issue? |
| 01:48.32 | bmoll8 | it is critical that I find out; I will just build a new computer if the motherboard is at fault; don't see what else it could be |
| 01:48.55 | derStuGGr | how old mb |
| 01:49.01 | derStuGGr | how used |
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| 01:49.06 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: 4+ years |
| 01:49.11 | derStuGGr | brand |
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| 01:49.17 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: an35n ultra |
| 01:49.21 | derStuGGr | good mb |
| 01:49.29 | derStuGGr | solid |
| 01:49.37 | bmoll8 | yeah--so it should have lasted longer |
| 01:50.04 | derStuGGr | strippd it down to just cpu/ram/psu/kb |
| 01:50.05 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: my psu was not that great; I have replaced the old, generic psu with a Corsair 450W psu, but it may be too little too late |
| 01:50.11 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: I already have |
| 01:50.15 | derStuGGr | no shorts |
| 01:50.15 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: same problem |
| 01:50.23 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: don't know |
| 01:50.26 | derStuGGr | put mb on towel |
| 01:50.31 | derStuGGr | no metal contact |
| 01:50.39 | K_Sakura | I'd use cardboard. |
| 01:50.43 | derStuGGr | ok |
| 01:50.56 | bmoll8 | if I have to do that, it might be worth it to just buy a new computer |
| 01:51.03 | bmoll8 | cheap 50 dollar computer, to use as a server |
| 01:51.04 | K_Sakura | Or wood -- I don't trust towels. |
| 01:51.11 | derStuGGr | not hard, just troubleshooting |
| 01:51.52 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: been troubleshooting for over a day now |
| 01:51.56 | derStuGGr | how was it acting before it started crashing |
| 01:52.02 | bmoll8 | just fine |
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| 01:52.27 | derStuGGr | take out RAM, leave in videocard and produce beeps |
| 01:52.35 | bmoll8 | I get one long beep |
| 01:52.38 | derStuGGr | to see if healthy |
| 01:52.44 | derStuGGr | with videocard in? |
| 01:52.46 | abrotman | !enter |
| 01:52.46 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 01:52.53 | bmoll8 | derStuGGr: yup |
| 01:52.57 | Mousey | +++ |
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| 01:53.11 | abrotman | bmoll8: and oyu shold be asking your vendor .. or at least ##hardware |
| 01:53.55 | K_Sakura | How much hardware did/do you have in the system? |
| 01:54.16 | felix_da_catz | alright, so I ran apt-get -t etch install linux-image-2.6.18-5-686. Should I just reboot? |
| 01:54.26 | abrotman | felix_da_catz: it should be -6- |
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| 01:54.58 | felix_da_catz | crud. I missed 6 in the list. |
| 01:55.07 | felix_da_catz | Should I do it again with -6 in there instead? |
| 01:55.34 | felix_da_catz | I want to get to lenny eventually. So can I just wait and do it after I finish with getting everything upgraded to etch? |
| 01:56.08 | K_Sakura | (I had too many drives for the PSU that came with my case, (IIRC 5 PATA drives and a DVD burner), which caused my system to crash if all of them had activity at the same time.) |
| 01:56.55 | felix_da_catz | ouch! And I thought my two drives soft-failing on my 13 disc raid array was a problem. Luckily I got all my data back. |
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| 01:57.42 | abrotman | felix_da_catz: yeah, you probably can .. but when it comes back . install the linux-image-686 |
| 01:58.16 | felix_da_catz | ok cool. Thanks! |
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| 01:58.33 | felix_da_catz | fuck I hate rebooting these servers. I almost always have a problem. |
| 01:58.39 | felix_da_catz | oops sorry for the language |
| 01:58.56 | abrotman | it's okay .. you're a cat |
| 01:59.01 | felix_da_catz | :D |
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| 02:07.24 | r0b | is squeeze getting security updates? |
| 02:07.55 | abrotman | not yet i don't think |
| 02:08.02 | abrotman | they said it wouldn't for awhile |
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| 02:08.10 | bittin | is somone that are good on cellphones awake? |
| 02:08.30 | abrotman | you can't connect your debian installation to your cell phone ? |
| 02:08.55 | bittin | abrotman: nah i wonder if my cellphone has some inbuilt sync function its a Nokia 6131 |
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| 02:09.19 | abrotman | ask nokia .. not #debian |
| 02:09.20 | gpm | hey all. what happened to grip the CD ripper? |
| 02:09.44 | bittin | abrotman: there is only Chanserv in #Nokia |
| 02:09.56 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:10.01 | abrotman | gpm: removed .. |
| 02:10.27 | gpm | abrotman: i see that. is there a reason? or a place i can get it somewheres else? |
| 02:10.38 | abrotman | gpm: look in the BTS |
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| 02:10.48 | Zyferus | find the source>? |
| 02:11.00 | gpm | abrotman: no reports. |
| 02:11.28 | Zyferus | http://nostatic.org/grip/ |
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| 02:12.14 | gpm | Zyferus: yep, that's the program's homepage alright |
| 02:12.45 | abrotman | gpm: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515887 .. sure there is |
| 02:12.48 | Zyferus | see the link "Download" |
| 02:13.15 | gpm | Zyferus: yeah, there's nothing there. |
| 02:13.16 | gpm | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:13.20 | gpm | i'll try out asunder |
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| 02:14.06 | Zyferus | works fine for me, gpm |
| 02:14.25 | Zyferus | Led to sourceforge page to DL |
| 02:14.28 | gpm | Zyferus: i'm looking for a debian package, not source. |
| 02:14.31 | gpm | thanks though |
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| 02:14.56 | abrotman | !grip |
| 02:14.57 | dpkg | grip is probably a GTK-based front-end for CD-rippers such as cdparanoia and cdda2wav. It allows you to rip entire tracks, or pinpoint a section of a track to rip. It plays CDs too.. Removed from Debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515887 |
| 02:14.59 | Zyferus | if you want grip, gotta use source |
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| 02:15.05 | Zyferus | or rpm |
| 02:15.11 | abrotman | Zyferus: he understands already .. jeez |
| 02:15.19 | gpm | abrotman: thanks for updating the factoid! |
| 02:15.34 | abrotman | gpm: hopefully someone adopts it i guess |
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| 02:15.50 | gpm | abrotman: yeah...asunder suuuuucks |
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| 02:16.27 | gpm | *not* a "perfect replacement" by any stretch |
| 02:16.33 | gpm | i'd almost rather use sound-juicer |
| 02:16.37 | abrotman | gpm: haven't tried it .. i goofed around with jack awhile ago .. does what i want |
| 02:16.39 | abrotman | (no gui though) |
| 02:16.51 | gpm | yeah, there are some good cli ones iirc |
| 02:17.00 | gpm | i just got used to grip and now it's gone |
| 02:17.24 | abrotman | hehe .. only been around since like 1541 |
| 02:17.48 | gpm | at the latest! |
| 02:18.53 | gpm | whoa, i'm looking at grip's changelog from the source tarball, hasn't been updated since 2005! |
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| 02:19.20 | abrotman | that was part of the reason the DD wanted to get it removed |
| 02:19.22 | gpm | btw, in real life it's been around since 1998 |
| 02:19.30 | gpm | yeah, i understand completely |
| 02:19.49 | gpm | it's hard to find a ripper with enough config options though, i will miss grip dearly. not dearly enough to compile it myself though. |
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| 02:20.38 | abrotman | you could become the maintainer |
| 02:20.52 | gpm | i definitely won't miss it that dearly |
| 02:21.21 | gpm | though the celebrity of being a DD is tempting, i know i'd be a shitty one at best. |
| 02:21.27 | gpm | i just don't have the time or the chops |
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| 02:23.33 | derStuGGr | this is florida in a nutshell.... |
| 02:23.35 | derStuGGr | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090327/ap_on_fe_st/odd_accidental_arson |
| 02:25.42 | DogBoy | doesn't sound very accidental to me |
| 02:26.23 | derStuGGr | "alcohol was involved" |
| 02:27.21 | abrotman | derStuGGr: wrong channel, try #debian-offtopic |
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| 02:27.46 | K_Sakura | "Authorities believe alcohol was involved." -- I thought a Molotov Cocktail was a rag and alcohol. |
| 02:29.00 | r0nin | during debian install my keyboard is undetected, suggestions? |
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| 02:29.18 | K_Sakura | Is it PS/2 or USB? |
| 02:29.28 | r0nin | usb |
| 02:30.08 | K_Sakura | Does it work? Or does it just fail to detect the layout? |
| 02:30.09 | r0nin | theres no legacy keyboard option in bios that I seen and I only have the usb keyboard |
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| 02:30.24 | r0nin | dosen't work at all |
| 02:30.34 | r0nin | when the cd is loaded that is |
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| 02:30.45 | abrotman | but it works to hit enter at the installer ? |
| 02:31.04 | r0nin | no |
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| 02:32.11 | r0nin | thats the problem |
| 02:32.12 | K_Sakura | Which version are you using? |
| 02:32.20 | r0nin | trying to install lenny |
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| 02:33.24 | Nach | What happened with Linux kbuild in unstable? It refuses to install |
| 02:33.31 | K_Sakura | Have you checked the BIOS for a 'use usb-keyboard' option? |
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| 02:33.57 | K_Sakura | Nach: It probably got a new version. There's a reason its called "unstable". |
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| 02:34.29 | r0nin | K_Sakura: yea but I didn't see anything related to the usb or keyboard |
| 02:35.01 | K_Sakura | Have you tried with a different version? Also, what arch? |
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| 02:37.04 | r0nin | No but I guess ill try etch, its x86 |
| 02:37.22 | eldowan | I'm about to be installing debian on a new, phenom II 4 core system. Is there any reason NOT to use a multi-core 32bit install? I've only got 4GB of memory. |
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| 02:38.01 | Nach | eldowan: you won't be able to take advantage of 64 bit features |
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| 02:38.18 | Nach | you should probably look at it from the point of view is there any reason to not use a 64 bit install |
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| 02:38.41 | K_Sakura | eldowan: Also, its a pain in the arse to migrate later, which requires a reinstall anyway. (AFAIK) |
| 02:38.47 | eldowan | Nach: what features would I see on a day to day basis? |
| 02:38.59 | Nach | eldowan: all depends on what you plan to do with the machine |
| 02:39.26 | Nach | but for example, to generate 4096 bit key pairs for RSA is a fraction of the time in x86-64 vs x86-32 |
| 02:39.32 | eldowan | Nach: daily driver. web, video encoding, and such. |
| 02:39.39 | Nach | video encoding is faster |
| 02:39.45 | K_Sakura | 64 bit. |
| 02:40.32 | Nach | when I ripped an encoded a DVD for the first time on my phenom in like 40 minutes (2 pass, x264, etc...) I nearly fell of my chair from the shock |
| 02:40.33 | K_Sakura | Intel chips, (at one point, not sure if they still have the bug), would run much slower in 32 bit mode than in 64 bit mode, because they emulated the 32 bit processor. |
| 02:40.33 | eldowan | Nach: K_Sakura: Assuming I do go 64bit, how will the daily use / administration be different. Are there still issues with 32bit only programs, such as flashplayer, etc...? |
| 02:40.37 | Nach | It can't really be done yet? Can it ;) |
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| 02:40.52 | Nach | I don't know of any existing 64 bit problems |
| 02:40.54 | r0nin | I get the same thing on etch, and even with my usb-PS/2 adapter dosen't work |
| 02:41.03 | K_Sakura | There aren't any big problems with the 64 bit transition. |
| 02:41.12 | Nach | in fact, back when I went 64 bit a few years back, the only one I really noticed was flash, and since when was flash important? |
| 02:41.22 | Nach | Besdies Firefox with flash works fine in WINE |
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| 02:41.35 | Sam_IRC | Can someone help me out with my vnc server? |
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| 02:41.48 | abrotman | Nach: there's a 64bit flash now |
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| 02:41.51 | Sam_IRC | I have tightvncserver installed. Now, I can't find the right port to connect too. |
| 02:41.55 | Nach | abrotman: no kidding |
| 02:41.56 | K_Sakura | In my experience the only things that are still problematic on my amd64 is realvideo. |
| 02:42.04 | abrotman | Nach: was that sarcasm |
| 02:42.09 | Nach | yes |
| 02:42.20 | Nach | abrotman: and who really wants flash in their main browser? just gives you more opertunities to see ads |
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| 02:42.30 | abrotman | Nach: some people actually like it |
| 02:42.32 | Nach | I launch a different browser if I want to see flash somewhere |
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| 02:42.54 | K_Sakura | I use konqueror for most browsing, and Iceape when I want to see flash. |
| 02:42.56 | eldowan | Nach: I view it as a necessary evil. but I refuse to use wine as such. |
| 02:43.18 | dbbolton | do any of the debian cd images include xfce rather than gnome as the "desktop environment"? |
| 02:43.19 | K_Sakura | You don't need wine for flash. |
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| 02:43.47 | r0nin | this keyboard worked fine on my other system I installed lenny on |
| 02:43.53 | Nach | you need WINE for Firefox for Windows |
| 02:43.57 | K_Sakura | dbbolton: Dunno, but you can just apt-get install xfce afterwards. |
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| 02:44.11 | K_Sakura | IceWeasel=FireFox. |
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| 02:44.26 | Nach | K_Sakura: IceWeasel > FireFox |
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| 02:44.30 | eldowan | Nach: hmm. I must be joining multiple entries together here. |
| 02:44.33 | Nach | and most certainly not equal |
| 02:44.33 | dbbolton | K_Sakura is there any list of what software is included on which cds? |
| 02:44.40 | harryv | totally reatarded by now. tried manpages, anything. how do I see what files are installed by a package? without actually installing it. apt-get/aptitude |
| 02:44.58 | eldowan | harryv: you can try packages.debian.org |
| 02:45.05 | harryv | eldowan: no way to do it from cli? |
| 02:45.07 | abrotman | harryv: apt-file |
| 02:45.13 | Sam_IRC | anyone have experience with tightvncserver? |
| 02:45.20 | beardy | !anyone |
| 02:45.21 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> <search> |
| 02:45.28 | bahatpc | I tried to send additional information to a closed bug, but the message bounced. The bug was archived a few months ago. Do I have to create a new bug report? |
| 02:45.34 | eldowan | harryv: lynx? |
| 02:45.39 | harryv | eldowan: meh. |
| 02:45.44 | harryv | I'm just used to ports. |
| 02:45.46 | harryv | so. |
| 02:45.57 | abrotman | bahatpc: bounced how ? |
| 02:45.58 | beardy | So do what abrotman said. |
| 02:46.00 | eldowan | harryv: check abrotman's suggestion of apt-file. |
| 02:46.03 | abrotman | !tell harryv about apt-file |
| 02:46.04 | harryv | already doing it. |
| 02:46.06 | harryv | abrotman: and thanks |
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| 02:46.23 | r0nin | harryv: you can do apt-get install -s PACKAGE to just simulate it |
| 02:46.32 | r0nin | its in the man |
| 02:46.36 | abrotman | r0nin: that's not what he's asking |
| 02:46.41 | bahatpc | abrotman: error 550 unknown user |
| 02:46.41 | harryv | r0nin: yes, and that just says 'Would download x' |
| 02:46.47 | parsonsd | ick. periodically the network overrights my resolv.conf .. i think it is NetworkManager which eats it, and i thought i had it all set up .. in short,i have an intermittentantly available box which does a lot of things, but i want to insure that its nameserver gets top billing on the nameserver list that resolv.conf sees. how do i tell the Network Manager config to stop over-writing the ruleset when my that internal ns is available |
| 02:46.49 | harryv | been there. apt-file seems to do the job. |
| 02:46.52 | abrotman | bahatpc: who did you send it to ? |
| 02:47.15 | bahatpc | abrotman: 459288@bugs.debian.org |
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| 02:47.25 | abrotman | afaik, that should work |
| 02:47.42 | bahatpc | even though the bug was archived? |
| 02:47.44 | beardy | !resolv.conf |
| 02:47.44 | dpkg | from memory, resolv.conf is /etc/resolv.conf, resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It's written by DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, use eg. "supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. You can also "prepend" or "append" instead of "supersede". ask me about <fixresolvconf> |
| 02:47.47 | abrotman | i believe so |
| 02:47.59 | beardy | !fixresolvconf |
| 02:48.01 | dpkg | To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use resolvconf and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>. |
| 02:48.01 | abrotman | beardy: don't hate me! |
| 02:48.02 | beardy | Is what I wanted. |
| 02:48.04 | bahatpc | hm |
| 02:48.17 | beardy | Gah.. |
| 02:48.32 | eldowan | So, the general consesus is that there is no longer any reason not to use a 64bit installation? Cool, I'll give it a shot and hopefully it will work out alright. |
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| 02:49.07 | beardy | parsonsd: If you are unable to find a way to stop whatever to overwrite it, you want the /msg dpkg fixresolvconf the ugly way |
| 02:49.10 | Nach | eldowan: there was barely a reason not to 3 years ago |
| 02:49.11 | eldowan | Nach: Assuming I want to check the performance on video transcoding between 32 and 64 bit, can both systems be installed at the same time like kernels, or is it prudent to install each to its own partition? |
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| 02:49.25 | eldowan | Nach: if it ain't broke... |
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| 02:49.28 | beardy | abrotman: I don't. |
| 02:49.29 | K_Sakura | The later, I'd think. |
| 02:49.31 | beardy | !love abrotman |
| 02:49.31 | dpkg | makes love to abrotman, caressing abrotman's hair, whispering sweet nothings in abrotman's ear... |
| 02:49.32 | Nach | eldowan: you can install each on its own partition or you can use 32 bit apps in a chroot |
| 02:49.59 | parsonsd | beardy - interesting. i'll look into it, and i might ave already been poking through there; since i have two nics, one is the generic gateway, the other has a NS for my inside network. but thanks! |
| 02:50.01 | Nach | eldowan: only thing that didn't exist in 64 bit till recently was flash and Java which aren't the most important things out there |
| 02:50.16 | eldowan | Nach: hmmm. was the install debian easy on the phenom with the 64 bit? |
| 02:50.21 | Nach | Oh it also seems that Debian still doesn't have Java Web Start in 64 bit, but that's only an issue if you need it |
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| 02:50.34 | beardy | parsonsd: Like the factoid key says, it is ugly.. but as long as you know what you do and remember what you did.. sometimes it's necessary. |
| 02:50.34 | Nach | eldowan: it's not any different than on 32 bit |
| 02:50.35 | Sam_IRC | anyone? |
| 02:50.49 | parsonsd | beardy : :) |
| 02:51.44 | Nach | So has anyone been able to install a post 2.6.26 Kernel? |
| 02:52.11 | K_Sakura | I'm still on 2.6.26-1 |
| 02:52.22 | abrotman | Nach: i think the kbuild is still in incoming ? |
| 02:52.27 | eldowan | Nach: thanks for the help and insight. K_Sakura: you too. |
| 02:52.33 | beardy | abrotman: I'm just cooling.. |
| 02:52.37 | Nach | I've despised 2.6.26 |
| 02:52.39 | eldowan | Nach: is post 2.6.26 in the repos? |
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| 02:52.42 | abrotman | beardy: get off the ice! |
| 02:52.45 | abrotman | eldowan: yes |
| 02:52.50 | Nach | eldowan: they have the kernels, but they refuse to instsll |
| 02:53.10 | eldowan | Nach: what the hell, I'll give it a shot tonight. |
| 02:53.10 | abrotman | beardy: i think i'm the only one still awak |
| 02:53.11 | abrotman | e |
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| 02:57.25 | parsonsd | beardy - i keep hoping that since i've finally discovered my settings were being written by NetworkManager (and that was after a ton of digging.. ) that i could have it preferrentially prepend the inside ns that really isn't on all the time. |
| 02:57.53 | parsonsd | no sense making the machine wade through finding the NS when the machine is n't on |
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| 03:09.54 | beardy | parsonsd: One option is to not use NetworkManager, whatever it is. |
| 03:10.16 | beardy | Sounds gnome- or kde:y. |
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| 03:10.36 | El_Duque | I need some help with my fstab settings. I apologize if this is too simplistic, but I figured this would be an excellent place ask: |
| 03:10.36 | El_Duque | my fstab for my cdrw reads:/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,rw 0 0 |
| 03:10.36 | El_Duque | And when I try to double click on the 'audio disk' on my desktop I get a message that says /dev//dev/hdc' could not be accessed. |
| 03:10.48 | El_Duque | what should my fstab line for a cd-rw read? |
| 03:11.08 | El_Duque | I'm using debian sid amd64 2.6.28-1 |
| 03:11.53 | beardy | El_Duque: Paste your complete /etc/fstab in a pastebin please. |
| 03:12.24 | El_Duque | # /etc/fstab: static file system information. |
| 03:12.24 | El_Duque | # |
| 03:12.24 | El_Duque | # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> |
| 03:12.24 | El_Duque | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
| 03:12.24 | El_Duque | /dev/hda4 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
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| 03:12.30 | badiane | Karsten: for the bidirectional sync you can use unison. I don't know if someone had answered that for you. |
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| 03:12.53 | beardy | !tell El_Duque about pastebin |
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| 03:13.01 | El_Duque | yeah, just got kicked |
| 03:13.11 | El_Duque | sorry |
| 03:13.44 | beardy | El_Duque: Yes. Read what dpkg told you and use that. |
| 03:14.07 | El_Duque | http://paste.debian.net/31613 |
| 03:14.09 | El_Duque | okay |
| 03:14.16 | beardy | Thank you. |
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| 03:15.22 | El_Duque | This is the output of ~: dmesg | grep hdd - http://paste.debian.net/31614 |
| 03:15.25 | beardy | El_Duque: Open your dvd-rom device and take out the disc, and put it in your cd-rw drive. |
| 03:16.12 | beardy | El_Duque: Hmm, right. Then you have mixed them up in your fstab. |
| 03:16.16 | El_Duque | Could not read the CD - Sound Juicer could not access the CD-ROM device '/dev//dev/hdd' |
| 03:16.16 | El_Duque | Reason: No such file or directory |
| 03:16.22 | El_Duque | okay |
| 03:16.33 | beardy | That // there, why is that there? |
| 03:16.38 | El_Duque | i have no idea. |
| 03:17.21 | El_Duque | I've placed the cd in the cd-rw and received the message above |
| 03:17.24 | beardy | El_Duque: In what are you clicking, what desktop environment or window manager are you using? |
| 03:17.51 | El_Duque | sorry - I'm using the gnome desktop 2.22.3 |
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| 03:18.18 | beardy | El_Duque: Yes, the problem is that you have the wrong file name, the wrong path. Something is putting "/dev" at front of the correct path. |
| 03:18.31 | El_Duque | ah |
| 03:18.52 | beardy | El_Duque: Your devices are "/dev/hdc" and "/dev/hdd". |
| 03:19.15 | El_Duque | yes. |
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| 03:19.26 | mconstant | Hi, my installation of Debian Lenny is missing /proc/net/wireless what can I do to rebuild it? |
| 03:19.35 | El_Duque | beardy: yes. |
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| 03:20.52 | beardy | El_Duque: I don't know really.. but a guess is that Gnome has some automounting thing that interferes with your /etc/fstab, possibly. To check if that's the case anyway, comment out the lines for your optical drives in your /etc/fstab and see what happens. |
| 03:21.16 | El_Duque | can do - back in 5 |
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| 03:24.53 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i have a question regarding creating image of the entire system and that is: in xp, i have ghost installed and i'm able to send a commend from within windows to create an image and after it restarts and creates an image. is something like this available in linux? i know about partimage but you have to unmount the partition that you have to copy |
| 03:26.40 | beardy | Boot your machine with a live-cd of your choice, and like you said, use partimage, or another program doing what you want. |
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| 03:27.27 | Loka | stupid question here: when we type ps aux, there is process with [] are those the things that was compiled in the kernel and "lsmod" the ones that was compiled as a module and loaded? |
| 03:27.30 | beardy | If it's your / you want to make an image of. |
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| 03:27.39 | frankS2 | when i hit apt-get upgrade in debian, alot of packages wants to get installed, how can i show the changes that has been done to them? |
| 03:28.29 | mimiloon | beardy: there's no other way except using a live cd? |
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| 03:28.41 | merlincorey | frankS2: apt-get install apt-listchanges |
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| 03:28.58 | beardy | mimiloon: Not on a partition that you can not unmount for some reason, no. |
| 03:29.12 | frankS2 | merlincorey: thank you |
| 03:29.50 | hoaland | I have a 'testing' which cannot be booted now. Can i use a 'stable' 'netinst' to save my 'testing'? |
| 03:29.55 | mimiloon | beardy: thanks for the info |
| 03:30.06 | mconstant | beardy: I'm having trouble because /proc/net/wireless is missing. What can I do? |
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| 03:30.54 | beardy | mimiloon: It needs to be not mounted to be sure that nothing is being written to it. I'm not sure if mounted read-only works. Check the docs for partimage. |
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| 03:32.31 | merlincorey | frankS2: you're welcome |
| 03:32.54 | beardy | mimiloon: You're welcome. |
| 03:33.02 | jetscreamer | hoaland: iirc the installer doubles as a rescue disk. ymmv with the results though |
| 03:33.11 | frankS2 | merlincorey: hm that way i have to download the packages first, is there any way i can review the changes without downloading them first? |
| 03:33.15 | jetscreamer | !rescue |
| 03:33.16 | dpkg | from memory, rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?") See also <rescue mode>. |
| 03:33.33 | jetscreamer | !tell hoaland about rescue mode |
| 03:34.22 | mimiloon | i have another question: what's the best media server i can use in linux to broadcast videos to my ps3? |
| 03:34.43 | beardy | mimiloon: I can only think of vlc. Maybe there's others. |
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| 03:35.31 | mimiloon | beardy: thanks again |
| 03:35.49 | hoaland | jetscreamer: thks for the info. What I am concerned is the incompatibility. The rescuer is 'stable' while to be rescued is 'testing'. |
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| 03:37.02 | jetscreamer | it boots, you chroot |
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| 03:37.20 | AcTiVaTe | mimiloon: fuppes http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/ |
| 03:37.21 | jetscreamer | i never liked using it though to tell you the truth |
| 03:37.23 | beardy | mconstant: You don't rebuild things in /proc since it is.. /proc. I was first going to say that if your device isn't configured, you wont have one, though I do.. without having a wireless nic. |
| 03:37.33 | jetscreamer | my stuff is different though |
| 03:37.53 | jetscreamer | 'any' livecd should do you (ymmv) |
| 03:38.09 | jetscreamer | well a debianish one |
| 03:38.16 | mimiloon | AcTiVaTe: thanks for the info |
| 03:38.23 | jetscreamer | gets lost there |
| 03:38.30 | beardy | mconstant: Are you using a custom kernel? |
| 03:38.38 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 03:38.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:38.55 | jetscreamer | hoaland: mentioning the error might help eh |
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| 03:39.02 | jetscreamer | what did it do kind of stuff |
| 03:39.12 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 03:40.42 | beardy | mconstant: Are your card using the ralink-rt61 or the rt2x00 module? |
| 03:40.51 | beardy | Is* ... |
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| 03:45.41 | beardy | s.module.module/driver. |
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| 03:54.29 | Mousey | how do i get sox to recognize audio/mp4 |
| 03:54.29 | Mousey | ? |
| 03:56.54 | keith4__ | if it's not in libsox-fmt-all, i guess it's not packaged |
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| 03:57.41 | Mousey | poop |
| 03:57.47 | Mousey | (it's not) |
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| 04:02.49 | hoaland | jetscreamer: more detailed. I have been running 'testing' for years now and i have a 'testing binary-1 cd' which i use for rescue such as after i install a Windows in order to have dual-OS. The last time i try this after installing Vista, there is a message telling me my "kernel is too old". So i create a rescue cd from a downloaded businesscard image, it being the smallest in size. But i... |
| 04:02.51 | hoaland | ...can't use this cd too. i cannot mount my 'testing' fs with 'mount 'dev'ide...part2". i am thinking this is because it is the rescuer is 'stable'. I know if i created another 'testing binary-1 cd" from the latest image, it will work but i want to make it work with the smallest download. |
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| 04:04.58 | nsgn | does anyone know where to obtain libavcodec-unstripped-51 for debian? |
| 04:05.24 | nsgn | it doesnt seem to be in apt at all |
| 04:05.28 | jetx | !dmm |
| 04:05.29 | dpkg | it has been said that dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
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| 04:06.18 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 04:06.19 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
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| 04:06.36 | anoHito | why after i ran shutdown now |
| 04:06.52 | anoHito | after that i cannot connect to web nor ssh,but i can still ping ,why ? |
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| 04:12.14 | Tramp | anoHito: man shutdown. Without specifying the action, shutdown brings your system into single-user mode |
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| 04:12.50 | anoHito | Tramp, i used shutdown now |
| 04:12.54 | anoHito | but now i can still ping |
| 04:13.06 | anoHito | ssh, web cant access |
| 04:13.11 | anoHito | anymore |
| 04:13.19 | Tramp | anoHito: that's what I said. So please read man shutdown. Your system was brought into single user mode by your command |
| 04:13.37 | anoHito | Tramp, oh,can i resume it remotely ? |
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| 04:13.59 | MrKeuner | hi all, in Gnome is it possible to assign double click on a compressed file to perform extraction instead of opening in roller? |
| 04:14.00 | Tramp | anoHito: if you wanted to reboot, you would have needed "-r" - only if you have some terminal access. |
| 04:14.40 | anoHito | Tramp, means i cannot do anything remotely in my matter now to shut it down completely ? |
| 04:14.45 | NathanW27 | i'm looking to remove lvm and disk encryption i set it up on etch and i now need that hdd for a windows xp system but i cant figure out how to remove the encryption so i can blow the partitions and start off with a clean disk |
| 04:14.58 | anoHito | Tramp, so it is okay to tell the datacentre now to plug out the power cable okay ? |
| 04:15.24 | nkuttler | anoHito: no, tell them to reboot properly |
| 04:15.25 | NathanW27 | if you could point me to a how to page that would be hugely apriciated |
| 04:16.11 | anoHito | okay,thanks |
| 04:16.12 | Tramp | anoHito: I'm surprised that your datacenter does not give you terminal-access. "Pulling the plug" /may/ damage something but this is very unlikely. |
| 04:16.31 | anoHito | Tramp, i always use putty to ssh in it |
| 04:16.54 | anoHito | okay,anyway, i cant do nothing,they will have to cut off the power themselves |
| 04:16.58 | anoHito | thanks,i gotta run |
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| 04:19.14 | keith4__ | "shutdown -h now" = shutdown |
| 04:19.20 | keith4__ | oh, he left |
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| 04:22.49 | GhostlyDeath | Do the Debian ISOs contain non-free and contrib packages? |
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| 04:23.03 | bahram | dorood bar hame :) |
| 04:23.26 | dondelelcaro | GhostlyDeath: no |
| 04:23.47 | GhostlyDeath | Any possibility of a non-free ISO? |
| 04:24.06 | dondelelcaro | there may be unofficial ones floating around, and you can easily make your own |
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| 04:25.51 | [gquit]bombadil | NathanW27: if you boot to the xp install disk, it'll erase all the partitions without any special linux knowledge |
| 04:27.17 | NathanW27 | it actuly wont boot to xp it locks up when it goes to scan the disk |
| 04:27.29 | NathanW27 | or rather locks up the system due to the encryption |
| 04:27.56 | NathanW27 | so thus i want to remove it using debian or a debian install disk if posible |
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| 04:31.06 | keith4__ | NathanW27: easy. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda (or whatever your disk is) |
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| 04:35.22 | paddu | hi |
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| 04:38.36 | paddu | every time when i restarting the system, iam giving dhclient manually to get my internet working, is there any solution without giving dhclient everytime? |
| 04:39.48 | GhostlyDeath | paddu: Try network-manager |
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| 04:40.29 | paddu | its a package in debian? |
| 04:41.00 | GhostlyDeath | yes |
| 04:41.15 | amphi | paddu: configure your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:41.33 | amphi | paddu: network-managercan give a lot of grief, from what I hear |
| 04:41.57 | GhostlyDeath | It can be a bitch if you want it to not automatically configure stuff for certain devices |
| 04:43.04 | paddu | i have configured already in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 05:21.21 | Skapare | enouf: what I have found about the init script numbering is that there are definitely some packages that don't adhere to the debian standard for numbering |
| 05:21.42 | Skapare | enouf: lighttpd is one of them |
| 05:23.24 | Skapare | enouf: others include: exim4 nsd3 rsync saned |
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| 05:36.17 | JPSman | does all of debian use gnome? |
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| 05:38.31 | shivraj | JPSman: no .... |
| 05:38.58 | shivraj | JPSman: its just that it has a good gnome default ... |
| 05:39.05 | shivraj | JPSman: I dont think it has the latest KDE |
| 05:39.24 | JPSman | Ok thank you shivraj :OD |
| 05:39.27 | dondelelcaro | JPSman: you can use whatever DE you want |
| 05:39.28 | shivraj | JPSman: plus it has XFCE .. |
| 05:39.42 | dondelelcaro | (we have all of the common ones) |
| 05:40.00 | JPSman | thanks :OD |
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| 05:43.39 | glick | howdy |
| 05:43.51 | glick | hey is anyone runnin kde 4.1 or 4.2? |
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| 05:48.54 | dondelelcaro | someone probably is |
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| 05:55.57 | Skapare | glick: so 4.0 doesn't count? |
| 05:56.08 | dondelelcaro | (4.2 is in experimental, anyway) |
| 05:56.54 | glick | haha yeah it counts |
| 05:57.22 | glick | damn im usin gthe kubuntu live cd and my mouse dissappeard |
| 05:57.24 | glick | :( |
| 05:57.54 | glick | aww there it is again :) |
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| 06:02.38 | pallu | how can install email server on my computer |
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| 06:09.29 | jae | Where does iceweasel keep its locks? (it crashed, and now complains about another process running, which I'm sure there isn't (ps, y'know)) |
| 06:09.48 | jae | And I'll be damned if I "restart the system" just because of crap iceweasel |
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| 06:12.43 | streuner__ | pallu: well, you surely run a MTA already |
| 06:12.50 | hark | jae: check for xulrunner-stub or firefox-bin |
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| 06:14.22 | streuner | pallu: why do you think you need to run a mailserver? |
| 06:15.05 | jae | hark: thanks! Forgot about xulrunner... that's still running. (w/o a window...) |
| 06:15.19 | pallu | i want to have an email server |
| 06:15.38 | streuner | why? |
| 06:15.46 | streuner | just for fun? |
| 06:15.50 | pallu | yes |
| 06:15.51 | pallu | no |
| 06:16.29 | pallu | im seting up an email server at work but i dont know how to do it, or im not asking the ritght questions |
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| 06:16.59 | _Pete_ | Hi, I have problems to build nvidia-glx with moduleassistant |
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| 06:21.00 | _Pete_ | is there a way run nvidia-glx under debian unstable with kernel 2.6.29-1 ? |
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| 06:22.41 | streuner | no |
| 06:22.41 | bullgard4 | !seen enouf |
| 06:22.41 | dpkg | enouf is currently on #debian (15h 53m 54s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 14h 4m 56s, last said: 'use -o /msg dpkg using find'. |
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| 06:23.17 | streuner | _Pete_: not with default kernel |
| 06:23.33 | _Pete_ | ok, how to do that with custom kernel then? |
| 06:23.48 | jintxo | _Pete_, I tried a few days ago, and just ended up reverting to 2.6.28 because the package dependencies were kind of screwy. what I didn't try using nvidia's installer though |
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| 06:24.08 | streuner | !nvidia |
| 06:24.09 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 06:24.52 | streuner | !factinfo nvidia |
| 06:24.53 | dpkg | nvidia -- last modified at Mon Feb 16 20:24:38 2009 by cheal!~chealer@67.204.62.227; it has been requested 2304 times, last by streuner, 44s ago. |
| 06:24.55 | hark | _Pete_: do you get any errors? |
| 06:25.04 | _Pete_ | yes |
| 06:25.34 | streuner | he asking for the errors... |
| 06:25.40 | _Pete_ | well maybe then easier to go 2.6.28 |
| 06:26.51 | _Pete_ | linux-headers-2.6.28-1-amd64: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.28 but it is not installable |
| 06:26.55 | _Pete_ | why's that? |
| 06:27.04 | streuner | well |
| 06:27.20 | jintxo | that's because you're on unstable :-) |
| 06:27.22 | streuner | that package prolly doesnt exist yet |
| 06:27.27 | hark | _Pete_: was rejected a month back due to licensing issues |
| 06:27.39 | streuner | oh |
| 06:28.39 | pallu | so is there an easy way to set up an email server? |
| 06:28.43 | streuner | no |
| 06:29.34 | pallu | is there a way at all? |
| 06:30.22 | jintxo | pallu, there are literally hundred of good howto's. now if you've never set up an e-mail server, set one up in "testing" test it, set another one up, test again, and then set another one up. when you've got the process down, then start thinking about actually setting up an e-mail server. personally I'd go with postfix and dovecot. |
| 06:30.22 | streuner | sure, just google for "workaround mailserver/postfix" |
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| 06:31.27 | jintxo | make good notes during the first few tests :-) |
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| 06:31.46 | iateadonut | are all computer programmers addicted to stimulants? |
| 06:31.59 | streuner | pallu: but if you have to ask about, check out http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 06:33.38 | _Pete_ | I installed deb5.0.0 yesterday after using many years ubuntu |
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| 06:33.49 | _Pete_ | so kind of lost still :) |
| 06:33.57 | jayb | hey... anyone here with experience with Mysql packaging ? |
| 06:34.15 | jayb | ( not just use of mysql on debian.... ) |
| 06:34.24 | iateadonut | no. why don't you use deb packs? |
| 06:34.36 | jayb | id LOVE to |
| 06:34.48 | iateadonut | but...? |
| 06:34.49 | jayb | but where can I get one with the Sphinx Storage Engine built in :P |
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| 06:49.12 | iateadonut | from what i remember three years ago compiling mysql - it's almost impossible. |
| 06:49.18 | iateadonut | i spent three days obsessing over it. |
| 06:49.40 | jmary | What kind of compiling issues were coming out ? |
| 06:49.54 | jmary | I've never tried to compil mysql yet. |
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| 06:50.37 | WIMMPYIII | Is there anyone here who has setup DD-WRT with a public vertual ESSID |
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| 06:52.06 | WIMMPYIII | Is there anyone here who has setup DD-WRT with a public vertual ESSID |
| 06:52.18 | iateadonut | i don't recommend it. |
| 06:52.23 | WIMMPYIII | y |
| 06:52.24 | iateadonut | unless you've done something like LFS in the past. |
| 06:52.32 | gpogo | LFS? |
| 06:52.34 | iateadonut | sorry... wasn't talking to you. |
| 06:52.37 | iateadonut | linux from scratch. |
| 06:53.31 | jmary | I made a LFS some years ago. |
| 06:53.46 | jmary | It took me 10 days to compil everything. |
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| 06:53.52 | nkuttler | um, apt-get source mysql-server etc. easy |
| 06:54.05 | jmary | But it was fun. |
| 06:54.16 | jmary | And then the system was booting in 2.5 secondes. |
| 06:54.43 | jmary | I didn't compil MYSQL at that time, Just X. |
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| 06:55.03 | jmary | You have time to drink a lot of coffee before it is finished. |
| 06:55.23 | jmary | By the way, I think to maintain an LFS is very expensive. |
| 06:55.45 | jmary | Too many security alerts to care about. |
| 06:55.58 | jmary | Must be a team to maintain that. |
| 06:56.12 | jmary | So it is lowering the interest. |
| 06:56.31 | iateadonut | hmmm... |
| 06:56.41 | iateadonut | but, LFS has probably been the starting point for a lot of other distro's. |
| 06:56.42 | gpogo | closest to that I did was gentoo a few years ago. But then I got to this point where I had a paper due in a few hours and openoffice was taking forever to compile |
| 06:56.49 | jmary | But if a company if a team can maintain that, then it's the way to have everything optimized as much as possible,. |
| 06:56.55 | gpogo | I switched to debian that night(drunk) |
| 06:57.17 | iateadonut | gentoo takes crazy long times to compile for not very much efficiency gains. |
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| 06:57.37 | jmary | I think the starting point for all distros was a UNIX system |
| 06:57.53 | jmary | LFS can born from it also. |
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| 07:01.48 | iateadonut | 2.5 seconds for an X system? |
| 07:02.11 | jmary | no, without X. |
| 07:02.16 | iateadonut | ah. |
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| 07:02.24 | jmary | 2.5 seconds to have login: appearing |
| 07:02.29 | iateadonut | how much time does debian minimum take? |
| 07:02.39 | iateadonut | like the net-install... |
| 07:02.43 | iateadonut | that's pretty quick. |
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| 07:02.58 | iateadonut | did you ever benchmark that compared to LFS on that same computer? |
| 07:02.59 | jmary | yes, between 5-10 seconds i like to say |
| 07:03.10 | jmary | yes I did |
| 07:03.18 | iateadonut | hmmm... puppy's very very fast, but i don't like that it doesn't have usernames. |
| 07:03.20 | joss | anyone knows how to dump messages from initramfs sequence stage like syslog to somehwre for reading, cause fb driver garbages the screen, and i do not have serial line here? |
| 07:03.43 | jmary | actually LFS was faster to proceed finite leements calculus because I could optimize everything from libc |
| 07:03.43 | joss | can syslogd work at that stage allready or syslog-ng? |
| 07:03.56 | iateadonut | command prompt to fluxbox on debian is very very fast, though. |
| 07:04.00 | iateadonut | debian is a very good system. |
| 07:04.08 | jmary | I tested finite elements only. |
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| 07:04.22 | jmary | Definitely. |
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| 07:04.45 | jmary | Even if my Desktop is ubuntu, I stick on Debian for servers. |
| 07:05.01 | jmary | You will never make me use Suse or Redhat. |
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| 07:05.51 | joss | Problem Is I do not know, where it would dump those messages and how..i guess i should try firing up a syslogd at initramfs somehow right, with special conf's to write the output to mounted disk |
| 07:06.05 | joss | Anyone have had experience with that, i am new to debian? |
| 07:06.23 | jmary | gpogo, how gentoo is going, I admit I've never tried that, but it sounds like a managed LFS actually. |
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| 07:06.58 | jmary | joss, can you explain in a more clearly what you want to do ? |
| 07:07.08 | joss | jmary: gentoo goes fine always, better then debian here:) |
| 07:07.24 | joss | jmary: yup i need to dump intelfb messages to somewhere |
| 07:07.49 | joss | since it garbages the screen with accel=1 and only works with accel=0 i want to debug this |
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| 07:08.03 | gpogo | jmary: I mainly went for it because I like package managers. portage had some things that irritated me at that time, though I've heard some of it was resolved. It was fun and a learning experience |
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| 07:08.25 | jmary | joss, so you should install the dbg packages probably. |
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| 07:08.44 | joss | jmary: i need to know what it says right before it garbages the screen, it should be generally the problem of two chips |
| 07:08.48 | gpogo | I think it was something with changing USE flags and then recompiling packages could cause issues somehow |
| 07:08.55 | joss | jmary: dbg |
| 07:09.13 | jmary | jp |
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| 07:09.23 | joss | dgb'ing graphics won't do i guess..i do not have another pc here also |
| 07:09.35 | jmary | joss, i don't mean the dbg package, but the packages with the dbg extension |
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| 07:09.55 | glick | sdf |
| 07:10.12 | jmary | like xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg |
| 07:10.15 | joss | jmary: that's the kernel, and i did not use a package |
| 07:10.25 | jmary | ah ... |
| 07:11.01 | joss | i need to debug kernel module that is intelfb here |
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| 07:11.15 | jmary | joss : I had no experience with that before, I just can give you a general tip. |
| 07:11.19 | joss | but initramfs phase does not really log anything |
| 07:11.47 | joss | until it won't log anything i hardly know anything to start with |
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| 07:12.18 | jmary | /var/log/kern.log doesn't hold your stuff ? |
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| 07:13.19 | joss | ok, i looked at /var/log/messages only, good..will delete that file and come back, after some secs, need to use livecd to copy that file for inspections.. |
| 07:13.37 | joss | jamry: how can i force to take a bit more output then usually? |
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| 07:14.01 | joss | since intelfb does not seem to have debug module parameter itself? |
| 07:14.39 | jmary | joss you can recompile kernel and tell and tweak with the debug options ... |
| 07:15.02 | jmary | also if your screen is messed that's not a problem |
| 07:15.06 | joss | jmary: which ones, you know exactly? |
| 07:15.23 | jmary | You install an ssh server on the messed computer and you log into it from another computer. |
| 07:15.27 | joss | jmary: it is since i do not have another pc, i must have serial line to |
| 07:15.32 | jmary | Then you can go to see your files quietly |
| 07:16.11 | joss | do that and another hardware |
| 07:16.20 | jmary | Actual what is more usefull than one PC is two PCs ... |
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| 07:16.55 | joss | jmary: yes..most useful is to not to be tapped all the time and surrounded with bad people:) |
| 07:17.42 | jmary | But more than all, what's the mess you have at the moment, X is not starting ? |
| 07:18.12 | jmary | It seems you are messing with the framebuffer, but what do you want to do with that ? |
| 07:18.49 | joss | jmary: get hardware acceleration going with that, so it would not mess the screen, that is different thing then drm module |
| 07:19.14 | jmary | what is your graphic card ? |
| 07:19.17 | joss | jmary: then i want to use that particular accelerated fb0 for vserver instances |
| 07:19.40 | joss | jmary: eeepc901 that's the smallest pc i found here quickly it has 945gme |
| 07:20.04 | joss | intel, i patched intelfb, and running out of time here a little |
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| 07:21.01 | jmary | I told you what I was knowing which might be the way for me to in this trouble. |
| 07:21.17 | thinline | I just upgraded from etch to lenny and my apache won't seem to start. there is nothing in any error log either |
| 07:21.21 | jmary | Then as I've said, I didn't have to do this before, so I can't help much. |
| 07:21.30 | joss | looking back i might had just bought asus n10 wchich has nvidia card, smallest one with that |
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| 07:22.19 | joss | jmary: aih, no thanks, but can you add which are the options for kernel to get more output to kernl.log? |
| 07:22.33 | thinline | anyone know of anything that might be causing apache to fail? |
| 07:22.51 | pallu | bad network card |
| 07:22.55 | thinline | n/m |
| 07:23.01 | jmary | When you do a make menu-config those options are appearing at the beginning |
| 07:23.05 | joss | i haven't delt with it also, but getting as much output as possible might only help solving something |
| 07:23.21 | jmary | maybe there is kernel which is already existing with that. |
| 07:23.47 | joss | jmary: at initramfs you think mounting and chrooting is the first step to be taken, before framenuffer modules are loaded? |
| 07:24.26 | jmary | no idea. |
| 07:24.29 | joss | i only knew gentoo model, haven't looked at debian one yet, low and limited band here so i am using binaries and debian |
| 07:25.19 | joss | well i assume, but i should confirm..that way it is only possible to get output , since intramfs should be destroyd i think |
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| 07:26.07 | joss | one of those initrd or initramfs is freed edvuentually like umounted..so there is nowhere to log otherwise |
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| 07:29.52 | joss | jamry: ok thanks, i still think i need another pc to ever solve it:), then just dump itself to initrd, modyfying init a little and run those commands by hand, over ssh, net must be up then before |
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| 07:31.35 | joss | find it difficult to belive it just does not work from 2.6.20 times, and there is no check in the file, they only check 965, reports from 2.6.20times all have same behavior, no info at google on success |
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| 07:32.46 | joss | if 965 disable accel, none metionfs that 945gm 945gme garbage the screen in source, but over internet they all say that |
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| 07:33.13 | joss | none say it won't with accel=1:) |
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| 07:42.18 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i'm new to linux and i'm trying to install a package i downloaded "fuppes" and i get this error "No package 'libpcre' found" after i run ./configure |
| 07:42.25 | lore17 | hi, im using lenny and my sound isnt working. I've configured alsa and files will play but there is still no sound. im relatively new to linux |
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| 07:45.22 | joss | mimiloon: you have to install depenencies before , or use apt-get to get it precompiled for your distro |
| 07:46.34 | rafuch0 | hey guys i questin really quick abpout cron |
| 07:46.49 | joss | distro == particular version of the debian brand for instance, and it has it's own packages ment for it |
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| 07:47.53 | rafuch0 | if i can create a cron file for root lets say in /root and the i delete the cron file that is in /etc is this ok? |
| 07:48.36 | mimiloon | joss: i've used the following command: apt-get install libpcre and get this error message: E: Couldn't find package libpcre |
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| 07:49.29 | joss | apt-cache search it before, you prolly need library + dev files, and i haven't got time, but yeah that approch might work, if you have them new enough |
| 07:50.04 | joss | mimiloon: configure itself says how new version of packages it needs |
| 07:50.36 | rafuch0 | and i also read that every user can create a cron file to execute but what if i only want root to be able of acces cron? |
| 07:51.11 | joss | mimiloon: so apt-get install libpcre3 libpcre3-dev |
| 07:51.39 | mimiloon | joss: thanks, i'll give it a shot |
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| 07:53.52 | JyZyXEL | how did you get a list of the sound devices? |
| 07:56.43 | JyZyXEL | cat /dev/sndstat |
| 07:57.22 | mimiloon | joss: i've installed the packages you recommended and now i get this error: No package 'libxml-2.0' found after i ran configure command |
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| 07:57.40 | PeYKaR | hey dudes |
| 07:57.46 | PeYKaR | i have a question |
| 07:58.09 | joss | mimiloon: really, some quicker guy might help you here, but just do that procedure again |
| 07:58.18 | PeYKaR | :) |
| 07:58.20 | joss | apt-cache search libxml first |
| 07:58.53 | joss | then not the output, what debian offers, that take two relevant packages, one dev and one pure lib |
| 07:59.03 | PeYKaR | I have purchased an external hard (WD My Passport essential 500GB) and I want to use in under both windows and linux |
| 07:59.17 | lore17 | JyZyXEL, are you talking to me? |
| 07:59.23 | PeYKaR | so I formatted half of it in ntfs format and another half to ext3 format |
| 07:59.29 | joss | mimiloon: that's it for me on that manner..no more questions to here, before you do that |
| 07:59.36 | JyZyXEL | lore17 yea |
| 07:59.57 | PeYKaR | but when I plug my hard to my system, it says that it doesn't have permission to mount it |
| 08:00.06 | PeYKaR | why? and how can I resolve this? |
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| 08:01.11 | mimiloon | joss: thanks for all your help |
| 08:01.41 | lore17 | card is: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with AD1981A at irq 17 |
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| 08:02.19 | simonrvn | mimiloon: apt-cache search libxml dev |
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| 08:02.39 | joss | mimiloon: LEARN TO DO THAT, debian always has such packages, just take them out!! |
| 08:03.04 | maxagaz | how tools can i use to measure the latency of a network ? |
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| 08:04.38 | lore17 | JyZyXEL, it says "Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG" same for Midi devices, is that normal? |
| 08:04.45 | Blime | maxagaz: ping? |
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| 08:06.46 | joss | mimiloon: for compiling you nead headers and libraries, first compiler takes prototypes from headers, compiles those as defined/redefined in code itself, and finally links the program against the ibrary.....FOR running programs, you only need to download the library, for compiling you need both |
| 08:06.58 | joss | lib and dev |
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| 08:09.23 | icenine | Why am I able to find this on the website even though aptitude cannot find it, even though I have squeeze (sid) added to my sources.list? http://packages.debian.org/sid/ardour |
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| 08:10.17 | azeem_ | icenine: squeeze isn't sid |
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| 08:10.39 | icenine | wait, so what is the bleeding edge codename |
| 08:11.21 | icenine | oh, sid is unstable |
| 08:11.28 | icenine | i was thinking of testing.. |
| 08:11.32 | icenine | meh i want this program ;( |
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| 08:14.29 | rhodescus | icenine: download the source tarball, and compile it for your machine. |
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| 08:27.06 | simonrvn | !tell icenine -about ssb |
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| 08:28.52 | joss | simonrvn: what is ssb? |
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| 08:30.49 | simonrvn | /msg the bot (dpkg) |
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| 08:58.11 | jmary | Somebody has a question ? I'm in the mood to help somebody. |
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| 08:58.27 | py_ | lol |
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| 08:59.16 | py_ | I have one: I've got a source package which is the source for several binary packages. But I only one to build one of them. How should I proceed? |
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| 09:06.32 | Skapare | jmary: do you know if anyone has constructed a bootable USB/SD flash image that boots Debian (and maybe even also installs it, like the DVD would) ... no, I'm not interested in doing it myself with the unetbootin program ... I'm interested in finding an image FILE |
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| 09:06.53 | dirkson | Hey all. How do I reinstall a package? |
| 09:07.02 | Skapare | installing it again? |
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| 09:07.27 | dirkson | Skapare: If I do that, apt just says, "package is already the latest version" |
| 09:07.50 | _Pete_ | What is replacement tool for firestarter? Been using that but it's not working in debian :( |
| 09:07.52 | Skapare | aptitude safe-upgrade? |
| 09:07.53 | jester45 | then remove it and install again |
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| 09:08.08 | Skapare | aptitude reinstall? |
| 09:08.15 | jester45 | if your wanting to completely restart the --purge option might be usefull |
| 09:08.24 | dirkson | jester45: If I do that, it wants to rip out like 50 packages that I /don't/ particularly want to reinstall |
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| 09:08.58 | Skapare | dirkson: dependencies ... so do you just want to upgrade to the latest version? |
| 09:09.36 | dirkson | Skapare: No, I already have the latest version. The package doesn't appear to be working, I'd like to reinstall it and see if that fixes anything. |
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| 09:10.06 | izua | hey. |
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| 09:11.07 | izua | i installed a new hdd, and because of some issues, i had to move around my HDDs, and they ended up in a different master/slave order |
| 09:11.35 | izua | long story short, windows fscked itself that fixmbr/fixboot wasn't able to reocver it.. but my debian installation is still there, untouched |
| 09:11.56 | izua | i reinstalled windows.. but initially the debian was on /dev/hdb5.. now it is on /dev/hdc5 |
| 09:12.22 | py_ | I' trying to build .deb from the source package. This particular source package provides several .deb. However, I need only one of them. Do I _have_ to build them all or is there a way to only build the one I'm interested in? |
| 09:12.23 | izua | will it work if i try to boot it? and .. how do i boot in it? i have a slackware cd that allows me to boot directly from any hdd |
| 09:12.38 | izua | but is it possible to boot into it just using the debian netinstall cd? |
| 09:12.45 | erlond | i am trying to rescue my system which is at /dev/hda2 but i failed to mount the partition during the rescue, " no such file or dir". i believe this is because i have mounted it once and did not umount it. but i failed to unount it now. how to deal with this? |
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| 09:13.13 | simonrvn | izua: sure |
| 09:13.23 | simonrvn | izua: it can be used as a "rescue cd" |
| 09:13.28 | erlond | when i try to umount it, i have the same error of "no such file or dir". |
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| 09:14.46 | izua | yes, but that doesn't allow me to boot into my installation |
| 09:14.51 | izua | all i can do is start a shell there |
| 09:15.17 | dirkson | realizes that his error is, YET FUCKING AGAIN, due to him having made the IDIOTIC decision to install Debian FUCKING amd64 version. |
| 09:15.52 | metaltux | hello... I am getting a crash on xorg starting on an nvidia card with the "nv" driver |
| 09:16.04 | metaltux | It is showing me a "backtrace" |
| 09:16.13 | metaltux | (A fresh net install) |
| 09:16.22 | metaltux | what should I do to fix it? |
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| 09:17.05 | erlond | izua: you want to re-install grub. |
| 09:17.29 | erlond | izua: and you can do it from the shell. |
| 09:17.36 | izua | where, exactly? |
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| 09:17.58 | dirkson | rages and curses amd64 debian. |
| 09:18.23 | erlond | izua: to the MBR. |
| 09:18.23 | mischief6 | agrees with dirkson |
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| 09:18.54 | izua | so that's the windows partition? |
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| 09:19.26 | izua | the hdd with windows shows up as the first hdd |
| 09:19.32 | dirkson | mischief6: It's almost to the point where I want to reboot, install my cdrom drive, and go through all the other steps to install a USABLE copy of debian. |
| 09:19.34 | erlond | izua: no, it is not a partition. it is the MBR. |
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| 09:19.56 | metaltux | shall I edit the xorg.conf file? |
| 09:20.04 | mischief6 | dirkson, i installed debian amd64 twice in a row, yet it won't boot. but livecds work fine. :( |
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| 09:20.09 | metaltux | I havn't installed the commercial nvidia driver. |
| 09:20.28 | izua | right. well i'm not sure how to do that |
| 09:20.30 | dirkson | mischief6: Run away! The problems only get worse when you DO get the fucker installed. |
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| 09:20.47 | izua | it only asks me to install grub to a partition |
| 09:20.51 | mischief6 | dirkson, lol. i did. i am installing it on another machine. xD |
| 09:21.01 | dirkson | mischief6: Heh |
| 09:21.34 | dirkson | begins wondering when he can afford enough downtime to reinstall. |
| 09:21.36 | erlond | izua "it" refers to what, netinst? |
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| 09:22.03 | izua | netinstall cd, graphic rescue |
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| 09:22.13 | izua | "reinstall grub" section |
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| 09:22.22 | izua | or something like that.. reconfigure grub, not sure |
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| 09:23.50 | izua | well.. anyway, as it looks now, windows is installed on /dev/hda1, the old linux installation is nopw on /dev/hdc5, and the swap on /dev/hdc6 |
| 09:24.32 | izua | brb |
| 09:24.59 | dirkson | realizes that he's going to have to do battle to ensure that debian doesn't install the damn "latest" version of his window manager again >.< |
| 09:25.14 | erlond | izua: in the rescue menu, choose "execute a shell", then mount the partition holding debian to, say, /tmp. Then "chroot /tmp /bin/bsh", then execute "mount /proc" followed by " grub-install /dev/hdc && update-grub" |
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| 09:27.08 | natsukao | i am searching an emulator for QL Sinclair |
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| 09:34.02 | metaltux | Does anyone have nvidia on debian here? |
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| 09:37.31 | _Pete_ | metaltux: I do |
| 09:38.07 | metaltux | _Pete_: I am getting a crash. Do you use nv or nvidia as a driver? |
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| 09:42.53 | cantido | Recently modinittools has been saying my config files should be renamed to .conf ... is that something I'm meant to do manually? |
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| 09:45.51 | maxagaz | when running "apt-cache search mysql", the result is not ordered, how can i order it ? |
| 09:46.33 | joltcan | maxagaz: order by foo |
| 09:46.38 | joltcan | maxagaz: haha, sorry |
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| 09:46.58 | izua3 | right.. so I logged into rescue mode |
| 09:46.59 | joltcan | maxagaz: My brain missunderstood it as a mysql query. use |sort |
| 09:47.13 | izua3 | there's a single terminal here and I'm using it for irc |
| 09:47.29 | izua3 | everything else logs into busybox which isn't my real installation |
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| 09:47.36 | izua3 | (ctrl+alt+fX) |
| 09:47.37 | Suzu | hello |
| 09:48.04 | izua3 | so, I have my windows on /dev/hda1 and my debian on /dev/hdc5.. i think, or might be /dev/hdb5 |
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| 09:48.09 | joltcan | maxagaz: you can also do apt-cache search ^mysql to just get stuff that starts with the mysql name |
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| 09:48.15 | izua3 | 1 - will my system still work if the drive 'changed letter'? |
| 09:48.25 | izua3 | 2 - how do i make it work / reinstall grub? i'm in rescue mode right now. |
| 09:49.00 | izua3 | so i'll need to start a shell in rescue mode, that's not busybox, but my debian installation - how do I do that? |
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| 09:49.26 | joltcan | !tell izua3 about fixmbr |
| 09:49.33 | maxagaz | joltcan, ok thanks |
| 09:50.19 | izua3 | thanks! i think that's what I want to know |
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| 09:53.53 | Ametrine | :o |
| 09:54.21 | Ametrine | i wonder if that guy liked the way my dress fitted |
| 09:54.28 | Ametrine | *chuckles* |
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| 09:56.49 | ivanatwork | I installed Debian from DVD to my external USB hard disk. Now, if i try to boot the external hard disk, GRUB --> error 17. suggestions? |
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| 09:59.12 | nsadmin | ivanatwork I have a setup similar to yours |
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| 09:59.17 | nsadmin | one sec |
| 09:59.24 | ivanatwork | ok nsadmin |
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| 10:00.38 | nsadmin | first off, |
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| 10:00.53 | nsadmin | do you have the grub on the usb? |
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| 10:01.23 | nsadmin | or if not, where? |
| 10:01.28 | izua3 | ok |
| 10:01.33 | ivanatwork | nsadmin: yes GRUB is in the MBR |
| 10:01.37 | izua3 | i mounted my target file system |
| 10:01.48 | nsadmin | ok, MBR of? |
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| 10:01.56 | nsadmin | (which drive) |
| 10:02.05 | izua3 | now i simply do update-grub ? |
| 10:02.17 | aurel42 | Howdy. Is there something like "apt-proxy" that works? |
| 10:02.24 | izua3 | woot, that's awesome. everything works from there |
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| 10:02.45 | ivanatwork | nsadmin: is there a way to see the GRUB of my external HD? I'm using the internal drive, of course ;) |
| 10:02.45 | joltcan | izua3: just hope it boots |
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| 10:03.03 | nsadmin | izua3 update-grub writes menu.lst |
| 10:03.17 | izua3 | there is no grub now, i reinstalled windows, so it spoiled the mbr |
| 10:03.23 | nsadmin | ivanatwork: so the grub is on your internal drive? |
| 10:03.54 | izua3 | also the linux installation has changed from /dev/sdb to /dev/sdc |
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| 10:04.01 | ivanatwork | nsadmin: no. I'm using a different distro but my external hd is connected |
| 10:04.05 | izua3 | i mean the name of the hdd changed.. :) |
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| 10:04.30 | aurel42 | izua3: UUID is your friend. |
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| 10:04.39 | nsadmin | ivanatwork so you have many grubs? |
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| 10:04.51 | izua3 | grub install doesn't work. i mean, it works |
| 10:05.17 | nsadmin | explodes trying to read izua3's last statement :) |
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| 10:05.24 | izua3 | but it says install device nopt specified, and that i should call it from /usr/sbin not /sbin |
| 10:05.26 | xoz | is trying to interpret what izua3 statement |
| 10:05.26 | ivanatwork | nsadmin: yes. I just booted normally from my PC. But if I want to use the external hd, I have to boot from it. So I need to change te GRUB of my external HD |
| 10:05.44 | izua3 | so grub-install worked, but did nothing, because i don't know what parameters to pass it :P |
| 10:05.50 | nsadmin | ohh, here is a place you need to be careful |
| 10:06.15 | izua3 | well.. |
| 10:06.26 | nsadmin | ivanatwork so you have to pick the drive to boot from? |
| 10:06.30 | izua3 | i know nothing more than my win is on /dev/sda1 and debian on/dev/sda6 |
| 10:06.44 | xoz | izua3: grub-install /dev/<device> |
| 10:06.49 | izua3 | /dev/sdb6 sorry |
| 10:06.58 | ivanatwork | dorry. I have to go! Thank you. bb |
| 10:06.59 | izua3 | what device do i choose? |
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| 10:07.17 | izua3 | i'm sorry, but i'm very new to debian |
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| 10:07.35 | izua3 | if windows wouldn't have fsucked itself, tommorow will be one week :P |
| 10:07.38 | aurel42 | trying to rephrase my question: Is there an alternative for "apt-proxy", perhaps one that works more reliably when used with multiple clients? |
| 10:07.44 | xoz | izua3: do you have /dev/sda? |
| 10:07.56 | izua3 | yes, first hdd only with windows on it |
| 10:08.01 | marctw | anyone graphed linux memory usage in Cacti before?i cnat understand the the standard templated "Linux memory usage" |
| 10:08.10 | xoz | izua3: which disk you boot? |
| 10:08.18 | izua3 | err.. |
| 10:08.34 | izua3 | well, windows is on /dev/hda1 and it boots automagically into it. so I assume /dev/hda1 |
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| 10:08.57 | xoz | izua3: grub-install /dev/hda which is MBR of hda |
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| 10:09.09 | izua3 | but if I install grub there, wouldn't grub launch grub when i choose windows? |
| 10:09.25 | xoz | izua3: yep, you use grub to boot different OS |
| 10:09.30 | izua3 | no dude |
| 10:09.31 | marctw | anyone graphed linux memory usage in Cacti before?i cnat understand the the standard templated "Linux memory usage" |
| 10:09.39 | izua3 | let's say i install grub on /dev/sda1 |
| 10:09.51 | xoz | /dev/sda |
| 10:09.52 | izua3 | and first entry in grub tells it to boot /dev/sda1, which is windows |
| 10:09.54 | aurel42 | marctw: explain your problem, perhaps it's not related to cactii and we can help without knowledge of cactii graphs. |
| 10:10.00 | izua3 | wouldn't booting windows would launch grub all over again? |
| 10:10.08 | izua3 | ooh.. /dev/sda ? |
| 10:10.14 | xoz | izua3: /dev/sda means MBR |
| 10:10.19 | simonrvn | pay attention to what they're telling you |
| 10:10.24 | xoz | izua3: /dev/sda1 meand win partition |
| 10:11.00 | izua3 | I'm sorry. this scrolls to fast, and half my screen has the debian logo with "rescue mode" written all over and "interactive shell". text goes up pretty fast |
| 10:11.18 | simonrvn | izua3: type 'reset' |
| 10:11.18 | izua3 | so.. grub-install /dev/hda.. |
| 10:11.29 | simonrvn | background your client first |
| 10:11.34 | nsadmin | what does grub install do exactly? |
| 10:11.42 | simonrvn | then come back once you've reset your terminal |
| 10:11.44 | nsadmin | does it install a stage1.5? |
| 10:12.01 | simonrvn | that'll help with the logo stuff |
| 10:12.03 | izua3 | hold on. |
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| 10:12.30 | simonrvn | i *did* say background... |
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| 10:12.40 | xoz | izua3: yep |
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| 10:12.41 | izua3 | no, the logo and rescue mode is still there |
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| 10:12.57 | xoz | izua3: what? |
| 10:13.11 | izua3 | xoz: ok, i'm going to do grub-install /dev/hda |
| 10:13.11 | simonrvn | hrm, might be the splash then perhaps.. nm then |
| 10:13.31 | simonrvn | xoz: side issue, ignore |
| 10:13.44 | xoz | simonrvn: ok |
| 10:14.11 | simonrvn | this is why i disable the bootup logo ;) |
| 10:14.28 | izua3 | grub-probe error, couldn't find a grub drive for /dev/sdb6. check your device map. |
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| 10:14.45 | izua3 | i'm using graphic mode rescue, if that matters |
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| 10:15.04 | izua3 | that was grub-install /dev/sda, btw. i don't have a /dev/hda |
| 10:15.06 | xoz | izua3: paste the error to google. |
| 10:15.07 | simonrvn | might need to correct your device.map file |
| 10:15.21 | izua3 | i don't have a google. i'm in rescue mode. |
| 10:15.26 | simonrvn | so install to hda then |
| 10:15.26 | xoz | izua3: haha |
| 10:15.29 | simonrvn | sda* |
| 10:15.30 | izua3 | :P |
| 10:15.34 | xoz | izua3: /dev/sda |
| 10:15.58 | Skapare | anyone know of any downloadable bootable USB/SD flash image files to run and/or install Debian? |
| 10:16.03 | izua3 | yes. grub-install /dev/hda did not work (no block device) |
| 10:16.08 | izua3 | so /dev/sda gave the error above |
| 10:16.17 | simonrvn | !tell Skapare -about ig |
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| 10:17.49 | izua3 | !tell izua fixmbr |
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| 10:18.09 | Skapare | simonrvn: and that answers my question how? |
| 10:18.21 | simonrvn | "!tell foo about bar" or better /msg dpkg if it's for yourself |
| 10:18.43 | simonrvn | Skapare: reading the TOC tells you that there's a relevant section. |
| 10:18.50 | xoz | izua3: yeah, fixmbr should be the factoid to follow |
| 10:19.03 | simonrvn | i guess you didn't bother going to check it. |
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| 10:20.02 | Skapare | simonrvn: sorry, but I don't see any download locations/URLs in there |
| 10:20.54 | izua3 | xoz: well, it fails at the last step |
| 10:20.54 | izua3 | grub-install /dev/sda -> grub:probe:error ... |
| 10:20.54 | izua3 | grub-probe error, couldn't find a grub drive for /dev/sdb6. check your device map. |
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| 10:21.18 | izua3 | my linux install is on /dev/sdb6 |
| 10:21.35 | izua3 | and i started a terminal in it, using the instructions from !tell fixmbr |
| 10:21.58 | dirkson | Hey all. Apt says it cannot resolve ftp.us.debian.org, even though I can ping that host just fine. What's going on? |
| 10:21.59 | izua3 | (and it works.. vim, my /home.. etc) |
| 10:22.23 | simonrvn | Skapare: www.debian.org/CD/ ... |
| 10:22.52 | Skapare | simonrvn: I'm looking for downloadable images ready for dd-ing to flash (or whatever windows equivalent for windows users) ... making my own bootable flash is not the objective here; I already know how to do that |
| 10:23.12 | Skapare | they have flash images in the /CD section? |
| 10:23.12 | izua3 | /dev/sdb6 is (hd1,5) ? |
| 10:23.31 | xoz | izua3: yep |
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| 10:23.36 | izua3 | that's what update-grub wrote in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 10:23.39 | jmary | Skapare, http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall |
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| 10:23.48 | simonrvn | Skapare: IIRC that page has several things you can fetch to do whatever you want |
| 10:23.51 | xoz | izua3: that is correct |
| 10:23.53 | izua3 | so update-grub also wrote the mbr? |
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| 10:23.59 | simonrvn | ah there, thanks |
| 10:24.09 | izua3 | cause grub-install fails |
| 10:24.18 | Skapare | simonrvn: what I want is to find downloadable flash image files |
| 10:24.28 | xoz | goes home |
| 10:24.32 | dirkson | Hey all. Apt says it cannot resolve ftp.us.debian.org, even though I can ping that host just fine. What's going on? Where does apt get its nameserver info from? |
| 10:25.18 | izua3 | where is device.map ? |
| 10:25.35 | izua3 | i'm in rescue mode and i have a terminal of my installation |
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| 10:26.25 | Skapare | jmary: those are just kick start boot images ... I'm looking for the full ones ... has all the same packages as on an ISO |
| 10:26.52 | Skapare | jmary: I don't think anyone has done it, yet |
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| 10:27.55 | simonrvn | Skapare: you use the iso itself to start it up, booting from the usb flash image, no? (or can...). i'm not sure what you want exactly. |
| 10:28.20 | simonrvn | eh, just ignore me, i'm going to bed. good luck Skapare |
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| 10:28.36 | jmary | Skapare, on ubuntu, there is a GUI to do this ... |
| 10:28.37 | Skapare | simonrvn: I'm looking to see what kind of downloads are available |
| 10:28.39 | r0bert0 | hi |
| 10:29.12 | Skapare | jmary: I'm not looking for a "to do this" ... I'm looking for "someone has done this and makes downloads" |
| 10:29.36 | Skapare | jmary: I'm surveying the ISO-centric-ness of downloadable boot images |
| 10:30.03 | Skapare | jmary: it's for a paper on the future demise of optical disk media in favor of flash media |
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| 10:31.10 | izua3 | hmm |
| 10:31.21 | izua3 | editing /boot/grub/device.map did the trick |
| 10:31.27 | izua3 | and lynx rocks! |
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| 10:31.34 | izua3 | now i have google in terminal \m/ |
| 10:31.38 | Skapare | jmary: does that make sense yet? |
| 10:31.49 | izua3 | well.. brb. gotta see if my grub works now, and I can boot in my old system |
| 10:32.27 | Skapare | jmary: what I'm projecting is that in the future both computer software and entertainment content will shift from using optical disc media and switch to flash media |
| 10:32.47 | jmary | Skapare, yes it makes sense, but if you didn't find any at googling, so do your own. |
| 10:33.53 | Skapare | jmary: if you mean by "do your own" for me to make the flash image ... that's not what I'm asking ... I'm asking of anyone knows of anyone offering any ready-to-dd style flash images, however they made them |
| 10:34.20 | jpinx | Skapare: that's a no-brainer |
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| 10:34.41 | jpinx | flash media already is taking over |
| 10:34.54 | Skapare | jmary: I'm trying to collect what is being done in this right now to make projections on how fast or slow the change will be |
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| 10:35.19 | jmary | Skapare, it's clear now, it is not to use it. |
| 10:35.39 | Skapare | jpinx: yeah, but the world is still extremely ISO-optical image centric ... virtually nothing is downloadable in any form except ISO-optical form |
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| 10:36.09 | jmary | PErsonnaly, I'm IT consultant, so before I was moving with my laptop to save clients. Now I'm moving with a USB key. It's smaller than a phone and I do more with it. |
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| 10:36.12 | jpinx | Skapare: that's because everyone has a cd burner already and no reason to give it up |
| 10:36.35 | Skapare | jpinx: at some point in the future ... there will be no ISOs to download ... it will all be flash images ... the question is, how far into the future that will be |
| 10:36.40 | jpinx | jmary: totally - I have a small OS on my flash stick |
| 10:36.45 | petemc | jmary: you can do more with a usb key than a phone? impressive |
| 10:37.05 | jpinx | Skapare: a long way - there are still floppy images to download |
| 10:37.06 | Skapare | jpinx: I understand that ... ISO-optical is still "everywhere" ... despite its disadvantages |
| 10:37.39 | Skapare | jpinx: but really, the first projection I want to make is when flash images will be at least as common as ISO |
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| 10:37.51 | jpinx | ten years;) |
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| 10:38.04 | jmary | petemc, yes, with the phone you can manage to do ssh but it is not very convenient. |
| 10:38.14 | jpinx | .iso is *very* pervasive |
| 10:38.15 | Skapare | jpinx: I was guessing debian or gentoo would be the first to offer real flash image downloads |
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| 10:38.35 | izua | woot. |
| 10:38.37 | jpinx | Skapare: I could make debian first today if you like ;) |
| 10:38.40 | izua | i think it works. |
| 10:38.58 | jmary | Skapare, actually Mandriva is already distributing its system on flash discs |
| 10:39.04 | Skapare | jpinx: don't do it for me ... do it if you feel there is a desire for it by others |
| 10:39.20 | izua | i booted in windows without any bitching, the debian install seems fine (although i got something at first boot about "wasn't cleanly umounted", and the thing did a check and restarted) |
| 10:39.34 | Skapare | ah, OK, I will go check out Mandriva to see what they are doing |
| 10:39.40 | jpinx | Skapare: the technology exists and is easy - it'll immendiately there is a demand |
| 10:40.06 | jpinx | jmary: flash discs ? what are those? |
| 10:40.09 | jmary | My nokia 6500C has 1Gb RAM. Has somebody ever managed to install a system in the phone to boot from the phone ? |
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| 10:40.17 | Skapare | jpinx: I already know how to make flash images bootable ... i've done it for years |
| 10:40.43 | jmary | jpinx, sorry i meant USB key. |
| 10:40.48 | Trewas | Skapare: using ready-to-dd style usb images has the downside that there are usb-sticks with many sizes... so in the end it may be easier to just make bootable usb-stick from CD/DVD image |
| 10:40.53 | Skapare | jpinx: "flash disc" I presume is a reference to the fact that the flash media emulates a disc |
| 10:40.55 | jpinx | Skapare: I don't have a cdtray - so I've been using .iso for a while too |
| 10:42.00 | izua | so, to everyone who took the patience to help me out, thanks! |
| 10:42.11 | jpinx | Trewas: no matter the size of the flash - but you do lose th extra space |
| 10:42.16 | Skapare | Trewas: all one needs is a USB stick (or SD card, etc) of sufficient size ... eventually people will figure out it's not an issue ... you don't have to "fill up" a flash stick |
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| 10:42.38 | jpinx | but I use a flash memory to install something and then overwrite it as storage |
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| 10:42.58 | Skapare | jpinx: you lose it for that use ... you lose it on a CD or DVD, too |
| 10:43.00 | enouf | what a dump it all is ... |
| 10:43.37 | Skapare | jpinx: you can always later "take" the spare space and make it into another partition and format it |
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| 10:43.49 | enriquei | anyone know if this will work under nix? |
| 10:43.50 | enriquei | http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NzEy |
| 10:43.57 | jpinx | Skapare: take it to #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:44.45 | Skapare | jpinx: well I think I am done ... I merely asked (earlier) if anyone knew of downloads by debian or by debian users ... just wanted URLs ... I wasn't expecting a long drawn out discussion |
| 10:44.48 | enouf | one major reason optical media (and it's 5000 formats) suck huge ass is the stinkin money grubbing greedy corps got all involved with what should've been a standard - not to mention - even cdda was/is a POS |
| 10:44.56 | enouf | (redbook) |
| 10:45.03 | thijs | hi all |
| 10:45.06 | thijs | missend me :D |
| 10:45.28 | jpinx | Skapare: there are usb .iso in debian - yes |
| 10:45.50 | Skapare | enouf: I'll agree with you .. but if we go to -offtopic we can talk |
| 10:46.14 | enouf | Skapare: see if grml.org (and all those other mutant offspring debian variants) offers flash images |
| 10:46.22 | enouf | yeah well - i'm done |
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| 10:47.39 | thijsb | is there a debian building systeem like kickstart in fedora? |
| 10:47.48 | Skapare | enouf: oh, BTW, I found out on that init script order number issue ... the standard *IS* to use Snn and Knn where the nn for K is 100-nn from the S ... and several packages do NOT follow it and for no reason at all |
| 10:48.02 | jpinx | Skapare: it's common to find .iso's for USB for installers |
| 10:48.12 | enouf | i know debian proper has hd-media and a miniiso available - but i think what you really should be looking for is premade VMWarez .vdk images or something |
| 10:48.41 | Skapare | enouf: that might be interesting, too |
| 10:48.47 | enouf | Skapare: righto - thanks for the followup - i did manage to read that earlier in my scrollback |
| 10:49.11 | Skapare | enouf: you can get something like that for ancient mainframe OSes to run on the Hercules emulator |
| 10:49.11 | thijsb | is there a debian building systeem like kickstart in fedora? |
| 10:49.22 | enouf | heh |
| 10:49.32 | enouf | right - et al |
| 10:49.40 | jpinx | Skapare: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install#Downloadinstallerimage |
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| 10:50.02 | petemc | thijsb: there is preseeding or fai |
| 10:50.27 | thijsb | sorry but what is a fai? |
| 10:50.31 | Skapare | enouf: anyway, for the init scripts I put in, I used the Knn = 100-Snn scheme ... and numbered nsd the same as bind, etc (since they are both DNS servers) |
| 10:50.41 | petemc | thijsb: /msg dpkg fai |
| 10:50.53 | Skapare | enouf: so it's all straightened out now |
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| 10:51.19 | Skapare | jpinx: thankx ... if I get an eee that might be useful |
| 10:51.21 | thijsb | tnx petemc |
| 10:51.40 | thijsb | and what about preseeding |
| 10:52.30 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:52.40 | petemc | you might start to see a pattern here.. |
| 10:52.51 | jpinx | Skapare: I believe th livecd project is doe for flash too |
| 10:53.04 | Skapare | jpinx: and the small image approach should work for every USB stick out there |
| 10:53.06 | thijsb | i see XD |
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| 10:53.30 | oliva | hi there ... what does a + means right after the file permission string in ls -l command |
| 10:53.30 | Skapare | has never seen a USB stick smaller than 64M |
| 10:53.31 | jpinx | Skapare: I use an old sd card for small .iso's |
| 10:53.52 | Skapare | I did see a 16M CF card once |
| 10:54.18 | jpinx | Skapare: but they are so old that they are liable to failure |
| 10:54.29 | Skapare | has 8G and 16G USB sticks, and a couple in SD cards |
| 10:54.40 | Skapare | jpinx: true |
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| 10:55.13 | Skapare | hopes someone can answer oliva's question |
| 10:55.15 | thijsb | jpinx take a look at http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 10:55.23 | oliva | Skapare: thanks :) |
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| 11:11.31 | cantido | Recently modinittools has been saying my config files should be renamed to .conf ... is that something I'm meant to do manually? |
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| 11:11.36 | cantido | oops |
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| 11:17.44 | jpinx | oliva: man ls |
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| 11:19.54 | oliva | jpinx: no info about + in my man page |
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| 11:23.06 | pompa | hi everyone, can someone tell me if I can customize the characters that comes out pressing Alt Gr+a letter? I need to have the Å, if possible instead of ø |
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| 11:25.02 | enouf | Skapare: good to know - i always thought that way too (KNN == 100-original-SNNscriptname) |
| 11:25.09 | jpinx | oliva: you're right - what's the command and output? |
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| 11:26.17 | oliva | drwxr-xr-x+ I have been told that there are acl thanks anyway |
| 11:26.29 | jpinx | oliva: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html |
| 11:26.46 | enouf | Skapare: but i've seen some trickiness occur in certain S2Nscripts - where one was 22, one 25 and the 25 should've been 22 or 20 .. whichonly occured b/c ofthe combo of pkgs installed/used - however, i agree, those things should be sorted prior - it's just hard to test _all_possible_ combinations |
| 11:28.20 | enouf | oliva: that usually means ACLs is/are employed |
| 11:28.20 | enouf | oliva: possibly selinux, but i'm not sure about that |
| 11:28.21 | enouf | oliva: so use man setdacl , man getfacl |
| 11:28.37 | enouf | er s/setdacl/setfacl/ |
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| 11:29.22 | enouf | oh .. late agin .. sigh |
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| 11:29.53 | aurel42 | If anybody cares... I found a working apt-proxy alternative: apt-cacher-ng seems to work fine and works as a drop-in replacement. |
| 11:29.56 | enouf | --> more beer |
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| 11:31.18 | enouf | dpkg: apt-cacher is also ask me about <apt-cacher-ng> |
| 11:31.18 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 11:31.29 | oliva | enouf: jpinx: thanks for your help |
| 11:31.33 | enouf | dpkg: apt-proxy is also ask me about <apt-cacher-ng> |
| 11:31.33 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
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| 11:32.00 | enouf | dpkg: apt-cacher-ng is <aurel42> If anybody cares... I found a working apt-proxy alternative: apt-cacher-ng seems to work fine and works as a drop-in replacement. |
| 11:32.00 | dpkg | okay, enouf |
| 11:32.08 | enouf | oliva: welcome |
| 11:32.18 | abrotman | yay useful ... |
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| 11:33.09 | enouf | abrotman: sarcasm? |
| 11:33.18 | abrotman | yes |
| 11:33.28 | enouf | grrr |
| 11:33.49 | jpinx | oliva: np - thanks for making me read a bit about acl ;) |
| 11:34.17 | enouf | abrotman: none of <apt-proxy> nor <apt-cacher> mentioned apt-cacher-ng at all |
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| 11:34.48 | enouf | and i couldn't point to it without creating something about it ... |
| 11:35.41 | enouf | judd: versions apt-cacher-ng |
| 11:35.43 | judd | enouf: apt-cacher-ng -- lenny: 0.2.2-2 sid: 0.3.4-1 squeeze: 0.3.4-1 |
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| 11:36.05 | abrotman | yes, it's newer .. probably ought to be a general proxiesforapt factoid .. oh well |
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| 11:36.43 | enouf | dpkg: apt-cacher-ng is also The "-ng" == next generation |
| 11:36.43 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 11:38.16 | enouf | aurel42: if you hvae an issue with your nick being in the factoid, i'll replace it with something else ... i don't mean to put you 'on the spot' (o to speak) |
| 11:38.21 | enouf | s/o/so |
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| 11:39.21 | agua | hi, is there a macbook user ? |
| 11:39.21 | agua | thanks |
| 11:39.38 | abrotman | agua: probably .. ask your real questoin |
| 11:39.55 | agua | debianBook:/home/alberto# lsusb |
| 11:39.55 | agua | Bus 005 Device 005: ID 05ac:8501 Apple, Inc. Built-in iSight [Micron] |
| 11:40.07 | agua | i have my isights firmware loaded |
| 11:40.18 | agua | and the module uvcvideo |
| 11:40.27 | agua | but isight webcam doesnt get working |
| 11:40.38 | agua | and i dont know how to look for the problem |
| 11:42.05 | agua | umm |
| 11:42.06 | agua | XD |
| 11:42.20 | agua | the question didnt work too XD |
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| 11:43.00 | fluxdude | has the obscure option been removed from modern pam_unix? Cannot see it in man page any more... |
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| 11:46.28 | abrotman | fluxdude: changelog ? |
| 11:46.38 | abrotman | agua: x86 or ppc ? |
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| 11:46.53 | abrotman | oh .. macbook .. x86 |
| 11:47.34 | agua | x86 |
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| 11:48.07 | agua | 2x86=172 |
| 11:48.09 | agua | xD |
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| 11:48.24 | r0bert0 | 22x10=220 |
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| 11:50.22 | abrotman | wants an x10! |
| 11:50.32 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 11:50.32 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <netbook>, <laptop mode> <suspend troubleshooting>. |
| 11:51.03 | ajavid | wow i haven't woken up this early in a while |
| 11:51.11 | ajavid | good morning |
| 11:51.39 | abrotman | slacker |
| 11:52.50 | ajavid | almost left php for python, zf saved me |
| 11:52.59 | ajavid | so very elegant, I even dream about it sometimes |
| 11:53.06 | ajavid | ahhhh boy |
| 11:53.28 | cydork | ajavid: wrong channel? |
| 11:53.32 | ajavid | no |
| 11:53.36 | abrotman | yes |
| 11:53.37 | ajavid | its the right channel. |
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| 11:54.01 | ajavid | anyway i think i might go back to bed. |
| 11:54.02 | cydork | ajavid: that's what she said.. |
| 11:54.07 | ajavid | hehehe ;) |
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| 11:57.58 | enouf | ajavid: frosted please for a sec |
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| 11:58.33 | ajavid | sure |
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| 12:09.46 | enouf | sigh |
| 12:10.31 | abrotman | !qotd |
| 12:10.32 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one. See <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already. <qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". at 236 (2009-03-12) |
| 12:10.40 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 12:10.40 | dpkg | < raf256> Why debian devel decided to curse debian with constant farting out of the box? |
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| 12:10.52 | abrotman | ah .. the days of raf ... |
| 12:11.06 | Metro_joe | Hello all. I just finished setting up a cli debian samba share computer. i *think* its all good, except, every once in a while i get stuck on "loading kernel modules" |
| 12:12.33 | Metro_joe | My question is. How many passes should i run memtest to make sure its not mem, and how can i check the disks for errors? |
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| 12:13.38 | Metro_joe | Or, am i wrong in saying that its hardware problems |
| 12:14.40 | enouf | I'm having issues creating a small crontab for my user - can someone take a look please? http://rafb.net/p/z32sIx56.html |
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| 12:15.04 | enouf | not that raf256 ... ugh |
| 12:15.36 | enouf | hewas back here as a different nick .. can't recall name though |
| 12:17.04 | enouf | Ok - about my crontab, i manged to get rid of the editing error (had to do with stupid \n in nano) |
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| 12:17.22 | abrotman | Metro_joe: overnight i'd say |
| 12:17.28 | enouf | now atleast i got; crontab: installing new crontab |
| 12:17.38 | abrotman | Metro_joe: stuck on ? |
| 12:18.43 | bzed | enouf: always use vi or vim as editor, nano does weird things :) |
| 12:18.51 | Metro_joe | abrotman, most of the time it gets stick on "loading kernel modules" or something like it. sometimes it boots "normally" but my samba/ssh/internet services dont start. |
| 12:19.15 | abrotman | anything special about the hardware? |
| 12:19.15 | enouf | bzed: i noticed :-p ... any other help? |
| 12:19.34 | Metro_joe | It all worked fine, i did some test reboots, first it all worked perfectly 5 times. then i started i having these problems |
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| 12:19.55 | bzed | enouf: remove the extra linebreak somehow :) |
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| 12:20.26 | giaco | hello |
| 12:20.38 | enouf | bzed: no, i mean - does the syntax for m h d dom dow look ok for 12-3pm for Mon-Fri ? |
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| 12:20.53 | SappR | hi, i've a problem after upgrading to linux kernel 2.6.29 : vmware 2 failed to install :s |
| 12:21.03 | enouf | bzed: though - the stream stops itself, IIRC, cause trsansmission stops auto when show is over |
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| 12:21.08 | abrotman | SappR: why did you compile your own kernel? |
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| 12:21.21 | enouf | bzed: i'm just not sure how to specify 12noon - 3pm |
| 12:21.37 | bzed | enouf: there's no way to specify when a cronjob will *stop* in a crontab |
| 12:21.45 | giaco | could you check if you have this include in your debian? boost/type_traits/make_unsigned.hpp |
| 12:21.47 | bzed | enouf: you can only tell cron when to start it |
| 12:22.01 | bzed | giaco: use packages.debian.org |
| 12:22.04 | enouf | bzed: and crontab -l now shows my crontab - where is this file actually stored? in /var/ ? |
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| 12:22.20 | bzed | giaco: or apt-file |
| 12:22.37 | bzed | enouf: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ - but you should not edit files there |
| 12:22.44 | enouf | bzed: that doesn't seem correct - some form of sleep or at or something within the command script itself then perhaps |
| 12:23.01 | enouf | bzed: right - ok - won't - i have crontab -e to do that |
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| 12:23.18 | bzed | enouf: yes you need to do crontab -e to edit a crontab. |
| 12:23.53 | enouf | bzed: isee now - perms set to user:crontab |
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| 12:26.15 | bzed | enouf: I still don't understand your problem :) |
| 12:27.08 | enouf | bzed: well - i guess i just wanted some feedback to ensure it stops recording at 3pm ... since i don't want to return home to a 100% full partition and a crash |
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| 12:27.39 | enouf | bzed: the other questions you helped answer already |
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| 12:28.24 | enouf | maybe i should also add a pkil mplayer or something at 3 pm |
| 12:28.34 | enouf | pkill |
| 12:29.34 | enouf | bzed: would i do that on a new line in same crontab? and would i need to preface with sudo (since pkill i think requires root) .. and sudo is all setup for my user ... |
| 12:29.45 | enouf | or .. would i make a new crontab? |
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| 12:30.46 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 12:30.54 | d-b | enouf: ... killall mplayer... |
| 12:31.17 | enouf | d-b: i use pkill all the time and am happy with it - that's not the issue |
| 12:31.19 | bzed | enouf: there is only one crontab per user. you should read the manpage to learn about the format. |
| 12:31.23 | enouf | thanks anyway |
| 12:31.25 | aprendiz001 | I hae cyrus in debian etch |
| 12:31.30 | d-b | blah. |
| 12:31.38 | d-b | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.45 | bzed | enouf: and pkill can be used by anyone, as long sa you want to kill the processes of yourself |
| 12:31.50 | aprendiz001 | and I don't know if it is possible to stablish an autodelete in a box for old mails |
| 12:31.53 | aprendiz001 | ...? |
| 12:31.54 | enouf | kill -9 `pgrep mplayer` :-P |
| 12:31.56 | bzed | enouf: only root is allowed to kill processes of different users |
| 12:32.06 | bzed | enouf: man pkill; |
| 12:32.22 | enouf | so what - i always use pkill from my root shell |
| 12:32.50 | aurel42 | likes "killall". |
| 12:34.19 | bzed | aurel42: only until you gave it a try on a real unix machine. |
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| 12:35.08 | enouf | when one needs to reign in bazillions of kio_http entries - pkill is my friend ;-) |
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| 12:35.23 | enouf | bzed: righto about each user == own crontab - makes sense since as that user, running crontab -e would open user's crontab |
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| 12:36.39 | enouf | and don't try shutdown, (or was it halt) on slowaris :-) |
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| 12:37.14 | enouf | (or is it any system that's using a tmpfs for it's /tmp)? |
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| 12:43.51 | Metro_joe | What reasons could there be for random boot failures, sometimes its one error, sometimes its another, sometimes nothing wrong. :S |
| 12:44.20 | patrikf | Metro_joe: damaged motherboard? |
| 12:44.47 | Metro_joe | How can i test that? i have the UBCD running a memtest now(complete pass without errors) |
| 12:45.07 | joss | hi still a dummy after some years of using, there is a script that removes a script from init.d and rcS's, what about adding one? |
| 12:45.11 | Metro_joe | i also did some cpu "burn in" tests, dont really know what it is, but it passed anyway |
| 12:45.41 | patrikf | Metro_joe: it would help to know what these errors are that you get occasionally |
| 12:45.48 | joss | i had used rc-update on gentoo, on debian it seems you have update-rc.d |
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| 12:46.36 | Metro_joe | patrikf its basicly two errors. Sometimes it hangs on "loading kernel modules" sometimes its boots seemingly normal, but samba/ssh/net services dont seem to start correctly |
| 12:46.50 | Metro_joe | and sometimes it boots without problem |
| 12:47.30 | Metro_joe | its important that it boots and starts ssh/samba/net without problems, cause this is intended to be a closet NAS box |
| 12:48.13 | cire | do you know a tool which concenates some pdf files into a large one? (every single pdf as one page)? |
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| 12:48.32 | joss | Metre_joe: that's my question related actually, you need them on some rc i guess, i am also asking where to put them, and how, usually you have gdm at init.d...so how to tell it to go to rc.5? |
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| 12:49.10 | joss | so it would mark it as 30gdm and so on, and would be called automatically always!! |
| 12:49.14 | petemc | cire: look at pdfjam |
| 12:49.24 | cire | thank you, petemc |
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| 12:50.12 | Metro_joe | joss thats a little technicall for me :S. Sometimes i boot and it works without a problem, but thats too few to make it reliable |
| 12:50.23 | prahal_ | hi does anybody know dwarf ? I don't understand what DW_OP_lo_user means and why it is "triggered" in debian sid while not in lenny ... it crashes wine debugger because it is not yet supported |
| 12:50.38 | joss | Metro_joe: you mean Nas client node? or how they called it, can't remember low band again |
| 12:51.40 | Metro_joe | joss sorry joss. i dont know what you mean |
| 12:52.16 | joss | server had a NAS so called iscsi initiator and you are target, inits should be still the same .. |
| 12:52.38 | joss | still to start stuff automatically runlevels I guess should be used |
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| 12:53.16 | joss | ah heck, i will search a google howto for debian runlevels |
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| 12:53.23 | Metro_joe | it should i guess. sometimes it does. and thats what bugs me. in my head it looks like mem/harddrive problem, but i scanned mem, i did some hard drive tests |
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| 12:53.59 | Metro_joe | i dont think its the debian setup, as it works flawless at some bootups. |
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| 12:54.35 | joss | ah man update-rc.d seems to give that info.. |
| 12:55.15 | joss | Metro_joe: that it is more like net problem it seems, cause you get a block device over lan you know |
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| 12:55.24 | joss | if you are iscsi target |
| 12:55.35 | joss | that's not ssh, that is iscsi target |
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| 12:55.46 | joss | they called it lun or something |
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| 12:56.39 | Metro_joe | joss so how come sometimes it works and sometimes not? |
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| 12:58.01 | joss | i do not know, just see you net scripts and iscsi target ones, i only have one pc here |
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| 12:58.37 | Metro_joe | k, thanks :) |
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| 12:59.52 | condor | you are have user from Russia or Ukraine ? |
| 12:59.56 | condor | need help |
| 13:00.24 | jpinx | !ru |
| 13:00.25 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 13:02.53 | joss | Metro_joe: where you call iscsi target from? |
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| 13:03.03 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 13:03.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 13:06.11 | sepult | i'm not able to apt-get update as root what's causing this ? |
| 13:06.28 | Metro_joe | joss i dont know actually, thats too technical for me atm. i was gonna google iscsi later one when i get back from the store |
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| 13:06.41 | Metro_joe | later on* |
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| 13:06.44 | petemc | sepult: what happens when you try? |
| 13:06.53 | hoodlum | sepuls |
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| 13:07.25 | Metro_joe | so, i was being sincere when i said thank you!, cause atleast i have something to google now :) |
| 13:07.32 | sepult | petemc: failed to fetch http:/bla then could not connect to localhost:4001 or so |
| 13:07.44 | petemc | sepult: you're using a proxy? |
| 13:08.06 | petemc | sepult: you need to learn to volunteer information rather than having people tease it out of you |
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| 13:08.12 | sepult | petemc: yes but i did shut it down now |
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| 13:09.08 | petemc | sepult: does it not seem obvious that that is the problem? |
| 13:09.13 | hark | sepult: unset http_proxy and try again |
| 13:09.50 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'm looking for linux-kbuild-2.6.29 . It's unavailable in sid and not in experimental. I do a quick google to find it's available for architectures other than i386 in Sid. Has i386 been dropped for the "leading" architecture ? |
| 13:09.58 | sepult | hark: petemc thank you i'll try now |
| 13:10.02 | abrotman | or it had a build problem |
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| 13:10.58 | sepult | hark: petemc i'm able to apt-get update with sudo |
| 13:11.24 | lord_rob | (linux-kbuild-2.6.29 is unavailale in experimental for i386 I meant) |
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| 13:12.41 | sepult | hark: petemc ok it was the env variable http_proxy which is not unset even if i shut down the proxy |
| 13:13.03 | hark | sepult: why would it? |
| 13:13.48 | stew | lord_rob: it will be in unstable in about an hour |
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| 13:15.24 | stew | hmm, or maybe not. it was built, but hasn't been uploaded yet |
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| 13:15.56 | lord_rob | stew: ok then I'm gonna have lunch thanks for your reply and thanks Debian team :) |
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| 13:17.14 | stew | lord_rob: i'd expect i to show up in incoming soon: http://incoming.debian.org/ it has been built: https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=linux-kbuild-2.6 |
| 13:17.32 | jetscreamer | heh i was wondering if it was kbuild |
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| 13:18.01 | jetscreamer | i've given up on it. i figure it's more certain to just roll from source if i need to |
| 13:18.23 | jetscreamer | is stil lrunning .26 |
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| 13:19.35 | lord_rob | I like to have latest kernel, new features are supported on my laptop |
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| 13:20.48 | [Jasper] | hej guys, what package should I apt-get to get the java runtime and compilr? |
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| 13:21.25 | worr | [Jasper]: sun-java6-jre |
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| 13:22.06 | worr | also sun-java6-jdk |
| 13:22.08 | [Jasper] | hmm |
| 13:22.11 | [Jasper] | don't see those? |
| 13:22.18 | [Jasper] | when I apt-cache search java6 |
| 13:22.25 | worr | enable non-free |
| 13:22.39 | [Jasper] | does that have any consequences? |
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| 13:22.53 | worr | wait, actually |
| 13:22.58 | worr | I forgot java went open source. |
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| 13:23.33 | worr | you want cacao-oj6-jdk |
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| 13:24.08 | [Jasper] | dl-prv01:/warfields-bot/new# apt-cache search cacao |
| 13:24.10 | [Jasper] | no results |
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| 13:24.37 | worr | Hmm...are you using stable? |
| 13:24.49 | [Jasper] | etchnhalf |
| 13:25.01 | worr | So...oldstable-ish. |
| 13:25.07 | [Jasper] | yes |
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| 13:25.45 | worr | Then you wanna enable non-free and use the package I told you. |
| 13:25.55 | worr | Except sun-java5-jdk instead of java6 |
| 13:26.38 | worr | All enabling non-free does is allow you to instal non-DFSG (Debian Fre Software Guidelines) software. |
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| 13:26.44 | worr | *Free |
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| 13:26.58 | worr | So nothing real bad, unless you want a strictly open source OS |
| 13:27.03 | [Jasper] | hmm ok, can't I use java6 ? |
| 13:27.18 | worr | Etch doesn't have it in its normal repos. |
| 13:27.27 | worr | If you want Java 6, backports has it. |
| 13:27.42 | [Jasper] | ah k |
| 13:27.45 | [Jasper] | I'll just try 5 then |
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| 13:28.17 | [Jasper] | worr where can I find what to add in sources.list for nonfree? |
| 13:28.40 | worr | Just add non-free to your main and security repos. |
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| 13:29.21 | [Jasper] | ah ok |
| 13:29.28 | [Jasper] | thought they were special repros |
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| 13:29.40 | worr | Nope, just sections on the official repos. |
| 13:30.02 | worr | Then do an aptitude update and then aptitude install sun-java5-jdk |
| 13:30.33 | [Jasper] | it's runnning ::p |
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| 13:32.37 | [Jasper] | hmm interesting, worr it is fully installed |
| 13:33.09 | [Jasper] | but it's still seeing my 1.4 version of java when i type java -version |
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| 13:33.45 | helo | where can i download etch netinst cds? |
| 13:33.50 | _Pete_ | [Jasper]: try update-alternatives --config java |
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| 13:34.33 | asg|nb | helo: /msg dpkg ig |
| 13:34.38 | Frantic | guys, is there any more elegant tool for doing backups? I mean more elegant than bash scripts |
| 13:34.38 | helo | ty |
| 13:34.53 | asg|nb | Frantic: bacula, backuppc, amanda |
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| 13:36.09 | helo | the links referenced in the install guide only refer to lenny, and never mention previous releases (even the etch install guide) |
| 13:36.11 | [Jasper] | 2 alternatives it says _Pete_ |
| 13:36.20 | [Jasper] | 1.4 and `1.5 |
| 13:36.24 | [Jasper] | how can I set preferred 1.5 |
| 13:36.33 | [Jasper] | that would be selection 2 |
| 13:36.54 | Frantic | asg|nb: thanks |
| 13:37.32 | asg|nb | helo: you didn't read the whole factoid http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual |
| 13:38.18 | worr | [Jasper]: type in 2 and press enter |
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| 13:41.02 | MrWax | grep word1|word2 |
| 13:41.07 | MrWax | how come this is not possible? |
| 13:41.15 | asg|nb | grep -e or egrep |
| 13:41.16 | MrWax | i'm looking for a line that contains |
| 13:41.22 | MrWax | grep "word1|word2" |
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| 13:41.37 | asg|nb | sorry, grep -E |
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| 13:42.47 | Frantic | asg|nb: amanda and bacula are overkill for what I need :) I need something simpler, I just want to say: backup this folder (mysql databases, or something else) every day at 3AM, keep the last 5 |
| 13:42.55 | Frantic | is there anything like that? :> |
| 13:43.04 | Frantic | just like logrotate does it for log files |
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| 13:44.33 | aurel42 | Is there some Debian-specific helper thingie to set up encrypted partions? |
| 13:45.32 | asg|nb | Frantic: maybe look at 'backup-manager' |
| 13:45.33 | DragonCairn | Frantic: a simple cron job connected to a simple bash script? It's not 'elegant' but I think for what you want (*SIMPLE*) this is it... |
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| 13:46.07 | Frantic | DragonCairn: yep, but I was thinking there would be something already done that simplifies and centralizes all that :> |
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| 13:46.12 | Frantic | asg|nb: will look at that one |
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| 13:47.31 | jetscreamer | no offense to the non het brothers |
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| 13:50.21 | jetscreamer | i inserted a clause |
| 13:50.23 | helo | holy crap... why didn't i ever know about etch's mini.iso before? |
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| 13:53.26 | asg|nb | helo: because most people fail to read the install guide |
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| 13:53.41 | jetscreamer | define nb |
| 13:53.48 | asg|nb | netbook |
| 13:53.51 | jetscreamer | ahh |
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| 13:54.18 | jetscreamer | better than jetpda :) |
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| 13:56.08 | asg|nb | jetscreamer: or asg|g1 |
| 13:56.36 | jetscreamer | g1? |
| 13:56.44 | asg|nb | Android G1 |
| 13:56.54 | jetscreamer | google phone os? |
| 13:57.17 | asg|nb | nods |
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| 13:57.50 | jetscreamer | ppl would make jokes about jet|palm :) |
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| 13:58.30 | asg|nb | only jet|palm|hairy |
| 13:58.46 | jetscreamer | :) ... gtg ciao |
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| 13:58.52 | jetscreamer | pda time :/ |
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| 13:59.41 | ehazlett | is there a way to force apt to be silent (not ask questions for installs)? |
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| 14:00.39 | asg|nb | ehazlett: -y (assume yes to all questions). |
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| 14:00.57 | drw | hello everybody |
| 14:01.07 | ehazlett | asg|nb: yeah, that's what i'm using but it still prompts for app customization... i.e. mysql asks for root password... |
| 14:01.39 | drw | someone to know how I can disable dhclient for request |
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| 14:02.06 | drw | I have a problem with dhclient and I setting the static way |
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| 14:03.50 | asg|nb | ehazlett: no, I don't think so in that case. aptitude may have something though but I'm not familiar with it. |
| 14:04.01 | ehazlett | asg|nb: thanks |
| 14:04.52 | drw | so .. somebody can help me ? |
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| 14:05.13 | ranix | !ask |
| 14:05.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 14:05.33 | agua | an user called ur_|v|aster from this channel gave me an url that asked for my gmail password |
| 14:05.33 | adb | drw: what's your issue ? |
| 14:05.43 | agua | take care |
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| 14:07.57 | zr | hello, I hereby sybmit to debian |
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| 14:08.42 | drw | dhclient run automatically |
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| 14:09.00 | drw | and I setting the network with inet static |
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| 14:09.05 | khaije1 | no handbrake in lenny? |
| 14:09.32 | adb | drw: go on |
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| 14:09.48 | asg|nb | judd: versoins handbrake |
| 14:09.48 | judd | asg|nb: Error: "versoins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:09.50 | asg|nb | meh |
| 14:09.55 | asg|nb | judd: versions handbrake |
| 14:09.56 | judd | asg|nb: handbrake -- |
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| 14:10.12 | asg|nb | khaije1: doesn't appear to be in any debian release |
| 14:10.22 | khaije1 | idk what that means... ook |
| 14:10.39 | khaije1 | i wonder if the ubuntu deb would work in lenny |
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| 14:11.15 | drw | well.. I don't want get address from dhcp |
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| 14:11.37 | drw | because I set my own address |
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| 14:12.07 | adb | if static is defined , no dhcp request on that interface |
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| 14:13.32 | drw | well maybe I restart the computer |
| 14:13.55 | drw | but if happend again.. what can do it ? |
| 14:14.11 | adb | not needed -restart- |
| 14:14.11 | drw | because when I see the log |
| 14:14.45 | drw | when I restart the just network.. I get my own address |
| 14:15.24 | drw | but 1 hour later.. the machine run dhclient and get another address |
| 14:15.53 | drw | so ? |
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| 14:16.11 | khaije1 | is there a way to have dpkg or apt auto-install dependencies of a single solo deb (ie downloaded from a website, not from a repo) |
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| 14:16.18 | adb | drw: i dunno |
| 14:16.32 | drw | ok... |
| 14:17.00 | jelly | khaije1: yes, when dpkg -i foo.deb fails, run aptitude -f install or apt-get -f install |
| 14:18.10 | khaije1 | i can feed aptitude a deb file? didn't know that |
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| 14:19.31 | adb | drw: i remember someone with mostly same issue , he has desabled ethx on a desktop network applet ... |
| 14:19.38 | khaije1 | oh in series, i see what yr saying |
| 14:19.51 | drw | how I do from console ? |
| 14:20.05 | adb | drw: i dunno |
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| 14:23.10 | drw | maybe is /etc/init.d/network-manager |
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| 14:28.24 | adb | /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ? |
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| 14:29.59 | drw | I read the conf but doesn't apperar nothing about this |
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| 14:32.47 | amitz | after installing some packages from debian-multimedia, "perl: warning: Setting locale failed.". I fixed it by dpkg-reconfigure locales and set en-US,UTF-8. But now some applications like aptitude has character "?" in them. How to fix it? debian lenny |
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| 14:33.42 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:33.50 | sdfsg | please check comes whether http://www.24au.ru/Details.aspx?LotID=36128&ui=7707 |
| 14:34.27 | troythetechguy | Hi all! I have a workstation on our LAN running XP with the firewall disabled. I can see the LAN and I'm able to "ping" other workstations, but I cannot "ping" this particular workstation. Ideas? |
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| 14:34.33 | hoxu | sdfsg, this is not a warez link checking service |
| 14:35.03 | jelly | sdfsg: don't spam here |
| 14:35.14 | adb | sdfsg: wrong channel |
| 14:35.29 | Hohlraum | any gut instinct ideas as to why a new hp dl380 g5 (2x4core Xeon, 4gb mem, onboard broadcom bnx2 2port eth, add-on intel e1000e2port eth) would be seeing intermittent network connectivity issues? tcp connections ranging from connecting then hanging to not connecting at all? dmesg output contains no indicators once the connectivity issues start happening. got the networking guys going over all the routing/firewalling/switching with a fine tooth comb wi |
| 14:36.06 | sdfsg | this is not warez. just trying to tie to the russian site hosting |
| 14:36.10 | amitz | adb: is keymap really the problem? |
| 14:36.30 | adb | i dunno |
| 14:36.32 | sdfsg | sorry |
| 14:36.33 | valdyn | Hohlraum: e1000 should be one of the better or best drivers in linux |
| 14:36.41 | wedge | Hohlraum: yes |
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| 14:36.49 | wedge | can you paste the output from the tx hangs? |
| 14:36.52 | valdyn | Hohlraum: you can try a different kernel though anyway |
| 14:36.58 | wedge | I have similar problems with e1000 |
| 14:37.06 | wedge | there's a simple fix to the problem. |
| 14:37.18 | jelly | Hohlraum: uname -r? |
| 14:37.31 | nick_h[litage] | if i'm going to use the python-sqlalchemy package with a mysql database, do i need to install the python-mysqldb package, too? |
| 14:38.02 | asg|nb | nick_h[litage]: if it's necessary, the dependancies will force it to install. Check also to see if it is recommended or suggested. |
| 14:38.45 | valdyn | nick_h[litage]: whats that? just an sql query tool? |
| 14:38.59 | nick_h[litage] | asg|nb: python-sqlalchemy suggests python-mysqldb, which leads me to believe that python-mysqldb is required to use SQLAlchemy with MySQL databases |
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| 14:39.17 | nick_h[litage] | valdyn: yeah, it's a database abstraction library, AKA an ORM |
| 14:39.19 | valdyn | nick_h[litage]: in that case it cant do anything without the proper db connector, which python-mysqldb probably is |
| 14:39.25 | Hohlraum | valdyn and wedge: it happens if i use the ethernet on either the e1000e or the bnx2 |
| 14:39.28 | nick_h[litage] | thanks |
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| 14:39.56 | valdyn | wedge: ? whats the fix? |
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| 14:40.11 | Hohlraum | valdyn and wedge: (just changing eth0->eth2 and eth1->eth3 in the etc/network/interfaces and rebooting) |
| 14:40.47 | valdyn | Hohlraum: thats fixing anything? weird |
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| 14:40.51 | Hohlraum | jelly: its a remote server unfortunately, but its the default up-to-date lenny i386 kernel |
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| 14:41.08 | jelly | Hohlraum: remote, but it has iLO |
| 14:41.09 | Hohlraum | valdyn: its not fixing anything, it happens on both cards is what i mean |
| 14:41.13 | valdyn | Hohlraum: do you get any IRQ related issues in dmesg? |
| 14:41.23 | jelly | Hohlraum: hp provide their own drivers for their cards; you could try those |
| 14:41.31 | jelly | !proliant |
| 14:41.32 | dpkg | proliant is probably utilities for hp proliant servers packaged for etch hide behind this form http://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=T8570AAE; their dependencies are not complete, also install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, or http://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=T8569AAE for amd64 |
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| 14:42.44 | Hohlraum | jelly: no they don't, for lenny the only optional packages they have are for their support utilities and the firmware for the bnx2 which was done during the install. .. all other support for this hardware on lenny is as-is with the distribution. |
| 14:42.46 | valdyn | Hohlraum: which level is that connectivity issue at ? ethernet level? |
| 14:42.46 | jelly | Hohlraum: we have almost no issues with dl360 g5, which are basically the same machines (just 1U), but use vanilla kenrels |
| 14:43.15 | valdyn | Hohlraum: or layer even |
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| 14:44.28 | Hohlraum | valdyn: sorry not a low level networking guy, but as in my original message. i'm seeing connectivity issues ranging from connecting then hanging to not connecting at all |
| 14:44.41 | valdyn | Hohlraum: whats in dmesg? |
| 14:44.53 | valdyn | Hohlraum: low level connectivity issues can show in dmesg |
| 14:45.01 | valdyn | Hohlraum: higher level issues cannot |
| 14:45.44 | valdyn | Hohlraum: theres alot of broken hardware out there that does not speak proper tcp/ip |
| 14:46.08 | Hohlraum | valdyn: i've had them send me screen shots from ilo and there is nothing out of the ordinary showing up in dmesg before or after these connectivity issues start happening. |
| 14:46.25 | valdyn | Hohlraum: so cabling at least seems ok |
| 14:46.54 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.07 | Hohlraum | valdyn: wonder if maybe its an irq issue. not really an hp hardware user. i've always mainly used dell hardware with no issues. |
| 14:47.21 | valdyn | Hohlraum: IRQ issues will be in dmesg too |
| 14:47.28 | Hohlraum | valdyn: no there is nothing obvious like that showing up. this is obscure :) which is why i'm here. |
| 14:47.46 | valdyn | Hohlraum: you never had different hardware at that port? |
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| 14:48.05 | valdyn | Hohlraum: i mean, a different box, being plugged into the same switch |
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| 14:48.52 | Hohlraum | valdyn: on the switch? thats actually a pretty interesting idea. i know where you're going with this. you'd think that if it was something like that though that the switch just wouldn't allow it to work at all right? |
| 14:48.54 | valdyn | Hohlraum: you really want to find out at which layer this is happening and when exactly |
| 14:49.12 | Hohlraum | valdyn: any advice on how to check that? |
| 14:49.16 | valdyn | Hohlraum: it does not need to be the switches fault |
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| 14:49.41 | valdyn | Hohlraum: but if its plugged into the same port wed know that the router should be the same too |
| 14:49.57 | valdyn | Hohlraum: do simple networking things, like talk to the first hop |
| 14:50.09 | valdyn | Hohlraum: see if theres things that actually work fine etc |
| 14:50.27 | Hohlraum | valdyn: talking to the first hop (ping) has worked for them on console when other connectivity will not. |
| 14:50.45 | Trotsky | can someone explain me how to participate in any project debian on google summer of code? |
| 14:50.46 | valdyn | Hohlraum: what is "other connectivity" |
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| 14:50.54 | Hohlraum | valdyn: which immediately says to me. that its a network issue further down the line. |
| 14:50.56 | smacnay | I see that installation of linux-headers-2.6.29-1-686 depends on linux-kbuild-2.6.29 which is a virtual package. Do I need to build the kbuild package on my machine in order to install the headers package? |
| 14:51.04 | valdyn | Hohlraum: mtr some.internethost |
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| 14:51.27 | Hohlraum | valdyn: i;ve had them ping the gateway when I was not able to connect into that machine remotely via ssh or http |
| 14:51.44 | Hohlraum | valdyn: successfully ping the gateway. |
| 14:51.52 | valdyn | Hohlraum: try udp too |
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| 14:52.45 | valdyn | Hohlraum: you can easily confuse some routers with a nonstandard mtu too |
| 14:52.52 | valdyn | Hohlraum: ping is not affected by mtu |
| 14:53.22 | valdyn | Hohlraum: im nto sure why you would have a nonstandard mtu though |
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| 14:54.13 | Hohlraum | valdyn: if they did switch cables around at the machine or switch without powering or clearing the switch is it possible there could be issues at the switch or further out on the network at the routers? |
| 14:54.47 | Hohlraum | valdyn: and those issues could be completely random? |
| 14:54.57 | valdyn | Hohlraum: no |
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| 14:55.14 | valdyn | Hohlraum: changing port in the same switch only affects hosts connected to the same switch |
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| 14:56.51 | valdyn | Hohlraum: so if you cant reach the router after a port switch then thats one thing, but if you can still reach the router then theres nothing else affected on the way out |
| 14:58.11 | valdyn | Hohlraum: you can generate packets of specific sizes with ping btw |
| 14:58.19 | Hohlraum | valdyn: just remembered. there was one situation when I was having connects+hangs or not able to connect. when they were able to ping the default gateway just fine. BUT they were NOT able to connect out via HTTP (I had them do a aptitude update, to see if they could hit the repos). so it was a combination of some things working outbound and some things not functioning inbound or outbound. |
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| 14:59.05 | Hohlraum | valdyn: the thing thats just driving me nuts is that the kernel isn't complaining at all about any of this :( |
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| 14:59.24 | valdyn | Hohlraum: it cant complain if nothing is wrong with the kernel.. |
| 14:59.43 | valdyn | Hohlraum: see if you can generate packets that dont work with ping |
| 15:00.36 | valdyn | Hohlraum: and start with max mtu and try sizes above max mtu |
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| 15:01.18 | Hohlraum | valdyn: and if there are issues any idea what that might represent? |
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| 15:01.36 | valdyn | Hohlraum: it means that you can blame your hoster |
| 15:01.40 | Hohlraum | valdyn: or why it would work fine for a few hours and then stop working? |
| 15:02.01 | valdyn | Hohlraum: no, i didnt even know that it works for a few hours |
| 15:02.44 | Hohlraum | valdyn: let me qualify. it works and progressively gets worse. sometimes it works fine from a cold boot. sometimes it takes awhile to start working and then degrades again. |
| 15:02.46 | valdyn | Hohlraum: heck, i STILL dont even know what exactly does not work |
| 15:03.00 | valdyn | Hohlraum: for all you told me it could simply be that dns isnt functioning properly |
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| 15:04.11 | Hohlraum | valdyn: inbound and outbound connectivity over tcp (ssh inbound, http inbound and outbound) and udp (ntp outbound) work intermittently. thats as plain english as I can be. |
| 15:04.15 | valdyn | Hohlraum: "degrade" is very vague, does traffic get slower, do response times get higher, do connections and which type of connections break |
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| 15:05.15 | maligor | don't suppose anyone would know if something mysterious has happened in sid of recent that would cause fglrx to suddenly break? didn't find anything too obvious in dpkg logs atleast |
| 15:05.29 | valdyn | Hohlraum: how do we know that this is not simple a dns issue? |
| 15:05.40 | lazer | is it possible to change a DDR2 SODiMM 533MHz RAM with a SODiMM DDR2 RAM with 800MHz? Does anyone knows that or has experience with it? THx |
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| 15:06.09 | valdyn | maligor: new kernel |
| 15:06.25 | Hohlraum | valdyn: because connections are getting into the server and hanging (the ssh log shows me connecting to the server and hanging immediately after. or http inbound connections work sometimes or timeout. |
| 15:06.31 | valdyn | lazer: depends on your mainboard |
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| 15:06.47 | maligor | valdyn, I don't use the deb kernels |
| 15:06.56 | valdyn | Hohlraum: have you tried ping yet as i said? |
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| 15:07.24 | valdyn | maligor: nothing special happened in sid that could affect fglrx |
| 15:07.30 | Hohlraum | valdyn: no i will do so, as i mentioned. remote server. all diagnostics are done over the phone with a person hands on. |
| 15:07.40 | lazer | valdyn: ok. it`s not said that it really works? |
| 15:07.49 | valdyn | maligor: except that random packages can place stuff anywhere that might overwrite fglrx stuff if that fglrx stuff is not installed from debian packages |
| 15:07.59 | valdyn | Hohlraum: oh geez |
| 15:08.36 | maligor | valdyn, well, it's not that, it just fails to open drm for some reason now |
| 15:08.44 | valdyn | lazer: im sure your mainboard is documented, if the documentation sais that it can use those rams, then it can |
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| 15:09.55 | valdyn | maligor: no? the fglrx drm driver does not ship as a file? since when? |
| 15:10.37 | valdyn | maligor: paste the complete Xorg.0.log on a paste site |
| 15:11.57 | maligor | I doubt it'd be particularly useful, I'll just try reconfiguring the entire setup from scratch |
| 15:12.00 | Hohlraum | valdyn: tell me about it. about ready to freaking kill myself and anything that moves :) |
| 15:12.32 | valdyn | Hohlraum: you tend to miss the most obvious things in that setup |
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| 15:13.46 | lazer | valdyn: my mainboard is specified for DDR2 SODiMM with 533MHz. But in a computer store they wanted to give me RAM with 800MHz. And they said. It doesn`t matter. Is that correct. |
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| 15:14.13 | valdyn | lazer: it wont damage your rams |
| 15:14.16 | valdyn | lazer: thats all |
| 15:14.25 | valdyn | lazer: theres no guarantee for anything else |
| 15:14.34 | Hohlraum | valdyn: tell me about it. this is a very large corp. setting up a DR instance of our software. i think this company uses windows for like everything in there datacenter. so everything i'm doing is voodoo to them and the people i'm working with only know their specific jobs and their knowledge of hardware/os's is very specific. |
| 15:14.35 | lazer | but does it works? |
| 15:14.42 | valdyn | lazer: try and see |
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| 15:14.46 | lazer | ok thx |
| 15:15.06 | valdyn | lazer: vendors do keep a list of officially supported ram for a reason |
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| 15:15.17 | valdyn | lazer: different rams works usually, but not always |
| 15:16.07 | maligor | heh, I've noticed that myself on this board, eventually they fixed memory compability with bios updates tho (this is desktop even) |
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| 15:17.21 | orioni | which is the best way for loadsharing and failover ? |
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| 15:17.30 | valdyn | !heartbeat |
| 15:17.33 | valdyn | oo |
| 15:17.43 | valdyn | orioni: im sure theres no best way |
| 15:17.54 | valdyn | orioni: but you didnt even ask a specific question |
| 15:18.02 | orioni | the simpliest and the one that works ? |
| 15:18.13 | orioni | valdyn: i have 2 different isp connections |
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| 15:18.22 | valdyn | orioni: for what? |
| 15:18.28 | orioni | internet connection |
| 15:18.51 | valdyn | orioni: you have to uplinks that you want to use for load sharing and failover? |
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| 15:18.58 | valdyn | orioni: you have two uplinks that you want to use for load sharing and failover? |
| 15:19.04 | orioni | and i want to share the loadding between them and in case that one is down all the traffic to pass to the second |
| 15:19.12 | orioni | valdyn: yes |
| 15:19.33 | orioni | how can i archive that ? |
| 15:19.44 | valdyn | !bonding |
| 15:19.44 | dpkg | well, bonding is making two nics have the same ip address which increases throughput and provides failover. for instructions on setting it up, read Documentation/networking/bonding.txt in the linux kernel source, or the documentation in the ifenslave package See http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/350 for some general info (beware, it's older, note the Date) |
| 15:20.38 | valdyn | orioni: or read lartc.org, the Routing for multiple uplinks/providers section |
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| 15:22.14 | orioni | valdyn: read that and still nothing |
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| 15:22.32 | orioni | or better my case is that one of my isp is routing /28 to me and the other no |
| 15:22.45 | orioni | and i have some clients that have public ip from this /28 network |
| 15:23.11 | orioni | and for the other im using a srcnat-dnat to do the mapping of public to private ip |
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| 15:23.54 | orioni | the problem im facing is with the incoming traffic |
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| 15:24.34 | orioni | if im waiting the traffic to arrive at 80.x.x.x it comes to that interface but when it leaves ( outbound ) it uses as a gateway the other isp 217.24.x.x |
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| 15:27.08 | jelly | Hohlraum: examining packet captures at both ends might help in figuring out the cause. |
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| 15:27.37 | Dj-Death | Hi all |
| 15:28.10 | Dj-Death | how to rebuild a debian package with dpkg-buildpackage when you have modified some of the sources ? |
| 15:28.23 | Hohlraum | jelly: as in tcpdump listening to http on the server as well as the client? |
| 15:28.31 | jelly | Hohlraum: yup |
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| 15:29.04 | jelly | Hohlraum: save a couple connections, examine the differences with wireshark |
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| 15:29.43 | Hohlraum | jelly: man i wish i knew more about tcpdump. may they have networking guys that would be able to decipher it. i know enough about networking to be dangerous :) |
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| 15:31.02 | jelly | Hohlraum: well, run tcpdump -n -ieth0 -s0 -w/tmp/outputfile.pcap tcp port 80 at both ends, and give them the files to look at. :-) |
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| 15:33.19 | Hohlraum | jelly: i'm gunna see if i can get ilo access remotely. so i don't have to dick around with the hands on anymore. |
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| 15:35.00 | jelly | eh, iLO2 console is crap compared to a decent ssh session (when ssh works ;-) |
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| 15:38.01 | mavhc | I like how you have to pay extra for most of the features of iLO |
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| 15:39.55 | jelly | or, you pay less if you don't need the advanced features. |
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| 15:45.26 | Hohlraum | jelly: except for all that access when there is network issues :) |
| 15:46.32 | Neaai | hello all. I have a fresh lenny installation in a machine with 6GB of ram memory. "free" shows 3894792 memory total, which is 4GB. Should I be installing any aditional software in this box to have it recognise 6GB properly? |
| 15:47.10 | squisher | Neaai, using 64bit kernel for starters? |
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| 15:47.51 | Neaai | squisher: it's not 64 bit. It's 32 bit. model name: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz |
| 15:48.07 | squisher | Neaai, that's 100% a 64bit cpu |
| 15:48.15 | squisher | well, not 100% but pretty sure :-P |
| 15:48.23 | squisher | otherwise you won't get more than 4GB period |
| 15:48.31 | jelly | squisher: nonsense? |
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| 15:48.45 | r0bert0 | you can map 4GB with a 32bit CPU... |
| 15:48.46 | Neaai | squisher: it is a 64bit? I thought Xeons are 32 bit ? |
| 15:48.50 | jelly | squisher: /msg dpkg pae |
| 15:48.51 | macsim`work | hi is there any kind of official debian certification ? |
| 15:48.53 | r0bert0 | use a bigmem kernel |
| 15:48.57 | squisher | I said more than 4gb, |
| 15:49.06 | jelly | Neaai: how old is your hardware? |
| 15:49.09 | r0bert0 | even more than 4gb with a bigmem kernel |
| 15:49.13 | squisher | jelly, hmmm... :) checking it out |
| 15:49.28 | Neaai | jelly: HP DL380 G3 |
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| 15:49.54 | jelly | Neaai: oh right, G3 is very likely a P4 Xeon. |
| 15:49.56 | squisher | jelly, dang, oops :) Thanks fro the pointer |
| 15:50.07 | jelly | Neaai: use a bigmem kernel. |
| 15:50.26 | Neaai | jelly: I think so too. But what should I look for, as a package name ? |
| 15:50.53 | r0bert0 | Neaai, somethiung like linux-image-version-686-bigmem |
| 15:51.35 | jelly | Neaai: apt-cache search linux-image bigmem |
| 15:51.50 | Neaai | r0bert0: the debian site reveals this, kernel-image-2.6.26-1-686-bigmem-di. But is this the one? the "di" part ? |
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| 15:52.12 | squisher | Neaai, apt-cache / aptitude show should give you more info |
| 15:52.13 | jelly | Neaai: just kernel-image-2.6.26-1-686-bigmem, no "di" |
| 15:52.47 | SparFux | Isn't it said that kernel versions prior to the most recent stable kernel won't get security upgrades? |
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| 15:53.19 | jelly | SparFux: why? |
| 15:53.41 | Neaai | squisher: jelly: thanks for the hints. Will do as directed now |
| 15:53.50 | SparFux | I heard that sometime on irc. I don't remember which channel, but this is why I keep using latest kernels as far as possible. |
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| 15:57.29 | jpinx | anyone know how to retrieve a password that's saved in iceweasel's memory but not mine?:( |
| 15:58.13 | maligor | for some reason it seems to fail to create /dev/dri/card0 |
| 15:58.21 | maligor | and it's not because lacking the module |
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| 15:58.53 | jpinx | ignore me - brainfart... |
| 15:59.04 | r0bert0 | xD |
| 16:00.23 | valdyn | SparFux: stable kernels get security updates. |
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| 16:00.37 | valdyn | SparFux: it does not need to be the latest, as you can see with current oldstable and etchnhalf |
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| 16:02.54 | Pit75 | hi, anyone knows about WGR614L netgear myopenrouter please ? |
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| 16:03.41 | petemc | Pit75: ##hardware |
| 16:03.53 | Pit75 | thank you |
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| 16:04.58 | scientes | is there a better english dictionary for debian? |
| 16:05.09 | scientes | ie larger and more complete for word processing? |
| 16:05.37 | ewet | hmm http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-latest-2.6/linux-latest-2.6_17/linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem.copyright tells me 404... |
| 16:05.48 | valdyn | scientes: better than what? |
| 16:06.33 | scientes | im using aspell-en |
| 16:06.42 | Hohlraum | valdyn: i'm in the server right now able to get in via ssh (took awhile but finally went through). dns responses are instant when doing queries against the dns server. |
| 16:06.52 | scientes | the gtk spell check relying on it just seems to not have enough words, esp compound ones |
| 16:07.07 | Hohlraum | valdyn: not able to get out to security.debian.org on 80 |
| 16:07.21 | vader-- | any of you guys good with perl? |
| 16:07.23 | ewet | does no bigmem package have a copyright file on d-p-o? |
| 16:07.41 | Hohlraum | vader: yes, been using it 40hrs a week since 94 :) |
| 16:08.10 | vader-- | im trying to convert a vbscript i wrote to perl and im not having much luck |
| 16:08.12 | squisher | ewet, shouldn't the copyright be the same as for any other kernel? |
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| 16:08.16 | vader-- | ive never worked in perl before |
| 16:08.24 | vader-- | it's a really small script |
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| 16:08.35 | vader-- | would you have a second to look at it and give any advice? |
| 16:08.36 | anddam | hello |
| 16:08.44 | bittin | hello |
| 16:08.48 | anddam | where should I look at for info about the logging facility? |
| 16:08.51 | vader-- | http://sial.org/pbot/35722 |
| 16:08.57 | ewet | squisher: i don't know? i was curious which upstream maintains the bigmem patches |
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| 16:09.07 | vader-- | i would need to use Net::Telnet in perl |
| 16:09.30 | squisher | ewet, I think it's in the vanilla kernel, but not 100% sure |
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| 16:11.42 | ewet | squisher: seems so. however wouldn't it be nice to see something else than 404 - it seems ambiguous to me... |
| 16:11.42 | Hohlraum | vader: isn't there a telnet example with net::telnet? |
| 16:11.55 | squisher | ewet, agreed |
| 16:11.57 | vader-- | ya but im having all kinds of issues with it working right |
| 16:12.06 | gihan | hello guys i have installed gnome desktop on my debian 5 server. when i type charater D on my keyboard there appear F character. all characters typing wrong |
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| 16:13.00 | arvind_khadri | gihan, get the layout correct |
| 16:13.55 | arvind_khadri | !tell gihan about keymap |
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| 16:15.07 | gihan | i tried system ->preference-> keyboard and changed layout nothing happens |
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| 16:16.35 | Metro_joe_away | if i see the "starting open SSH" "starting samba daemons : nmbd smbd" etc. but when the boot is finished, those deamons arent running anymore, or badly started or whatever. what could be the problem? |
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| 16:17.10 | Metro_joe_away | if i do /etc/init.d/samba restart it gives the errors "smbd nmbd not running", but after taht it works fine |
| 16:17.24 | Metro_joe_away | including ssh etc |
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| 16:26.05 | megaTherion | where is a list of the etch mirrors located? |
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| 16:26.56 | asg | !mirrors |
| 16:26.56 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 16:26.57 | nsadmin | megaTherion: that's a google question... but have you considered exploring www.debian.org? |
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| 16:28.17 | alvaro1 | please can someone tell me which color is this webpage? http://bayourincon.dynalias.com |
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| 16:28.37 | asg | alvaro1: pink |
| 16:28.48 | alvaro1 | asg: thanks friend |
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| 16:29.55 | alvaro1 | asg: did you saw unreadable characters on that webpage? |
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| 16:30.37 | asg | alvaro1: no |
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| 16:30.55 | alvaro1 | asg: thanks again my friend |
| 16:31.05 | asg | you're welcome |
| 16:31.12 | adb | alvaro1: now stop it |
| 16:31.57 | alvaro1 | adb: where can i do that? |
| 16:32.07 | azeem | alvaro1: do you have a Debian question? |
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| 16:33.14 | alvaro1 | azeem: yes, is debian more difficult to maintain than other distros? |
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| 16:34.08 | Metro_joe_away | can i play games on debian? can it play crysis? /sarcasm |
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| 16:34.58 | nsadmin | I play sahilytar all the time |
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| 16:35.44 | nsadmin | and doom3 and quake4 |
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| 16:35.57 | gihan | any one familiar about my problem? when i type characters with my keyboard they appear wrong in my debian server desktop :( |
| 16:36.38 | kriebel | gihan: clarify "wrong"? Are you using a US PC-10(2,4) keyboard? |
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| 16:37.05 | alvaro1 | gihan: there must be a problem with your keyboard controller |
| 16:37.18 | maligor | looks like libdrm2 in sid doesn't like fglrx |
| 16:37.24 | alvaro1 | gihan: there must be a problem with your keyboard driver |
| 16:37.24 | maligor | downgrading fixed it |
| 16:37.50 | gihan | in my .xsession-errors files it shows some errors ** (gnome-settings-daemon:18872): WARNING **: Neither XKeyboard not Xfree86's keyboard extensions are available, |
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| 16:38.53 | alvaro1 | gihan: there must be a problem with your keyboard driver, the software that controls your keyboard is not working fine, try installing one from your distro's repositories |
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| 16:39.32 | kriebel | keyboards have... drivers? |
| 16:39.43 | gihan | alvaro1: mate im a new guy to linux and debian can you give command |
| 16:39.56 | anddam | kriebel: I think so |
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| 16:39.58 | ccccc | salut, viens me voir nue sur mon site internet : http://www.maxicanne.com (GRATUIT) |
| 16:40.05 | alvaro1 | kriebel: call it software do not call it driver |
| 16:40.06 | kriebel | if you're a new guy to Linux and debian, start on Ubuntu |
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| 16:40.25 | Metro_joe | they have sometimes bus drivers too, depends if the keyboard is taking a taxi or a bus i guess |
| 16:40.49 | gravity | kriebel: Actually, yeah they do |
| 16:40.54 | alvaro1 | gihan: retype your question please |
| 16:41.00 | launch | Hi, Is there a way to see which nvidia card are supported by the nv driver? |
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| 16:41.30 | gihan | how do i install it from distro's repositories? |
| 16:41.42 | asg | launch: man nv |
| 16:41.49 | nsadmin | first it has to be in the repos |
| 16:41.49 | alvaro1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.52 | gravity | gihan: That's a weird error |
| 16:42.06 | launch | asg lol true thanks |
| 16:42.08 | gihan | ya |
| 16:42.10 | gravity | gihan: How did you install debian? |
| 16:42.20 | gihan | its my server |
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| 16:42.36 | gravity | ok...? |
| 16:42.38 | gihan | through control panel provided from OVH |
| 16:42.42 | gravity | urgh |
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| 16:43.16 | gravity | Well, it's pretty obviously an X issue. Do you have root access to it? |
| 16:43.24 | gihan | yes |
| 16:43.51 | alvaro1 | gihan: read your distro's documentation for package manager and launch a command that install it and configure it in one step that is the better option |
| 16:44.23 | gravity | alvaro1: Why do you keep saying "your distro"? |
| 16:44.37 | gravity | alvaro1: He told you what distro he's running, and you're in #debian. |
| 16:44.44 | nsadmin | your distro... brings the girls to the yard... |
| 16:44.59 | gravity | alvaro1: If you can't give specific debian help, then maybe let others take the lead? |
| 16:45.09 | alvaro1 | gravity: i am not acustomed to debian, sorry |
| 16:45.28 | launch | I have no sound and i would like to know where is the problem, no driver? or something else.. please help me |
| 16:45.37 | gravity | gihan: You should log out of X and get to a terminal. Your keyboard should work normally there. If not, then you have a different issue to solve. |
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| 16:46.47 | gihan | yes problem in gui |
| 16:46.54 | gravity | Ok. |
| 16:46.55 | Lightning | I attempted the dist-upgrade on my box from etch to lenny, however I'm getting errors with gnome about symbol lookup error for g_dgettext |
| 16:46.59 | Lightning | any ideas how to fix it? |
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| 16:47.21 | gravity | gihan: You should run the program named "aptitude". It's a program to install software packages in Debian. |
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| 16:47.46 | Lightning | apt-get is saying to do -f install but i still get symbol lookup errors when it is trying to install libgnomevfs2-common |
| 16:47.46 | nsadmin | Lightning: run the upgrade from terminal |
| 16:47.47 | gravity | gihan: You'll want to install the "xorg" package |
| 16:47.58 | Lightning | nsadmin: i am |
| 16:48.07 | nsadmin | within x? |
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| 16:48.30 | Lightning | nsadmin: nope, ssh'd to the box actually |
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| 16:48.43 | gravity | gihan: My guess is that it's actually installed, but we should be certain. |
| 16:49.02 | Lightning | gdm is not running either in the process list |
| 16:49.05 | nsadmin | how far is the box you're upgrading from your hands? |
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| 16:49.37 | Lightning | at the house. had started it from a terminal before i left for work and just checked in on it |
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| 16:49.54 | nsadmin | oh ok, you're still at work? |
| 16:50.01 | Lightning | yep, wondering how to go about fixing this though |
| 16:50.26 | Lightning | as i'd probably get the same errors when i get home and sit in front of it |
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| 16:50.54 | nsadmin | yu're running the upgrade inside screen? |
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| 16:51.05 | giahn1 | sorry gravity ive disconnected from ircd |
| 16:51.24 | giahn1 | my problem is in X |
| 16:51.29 | Lightning | nsadmin: nope. don't think i even have screen installed |
| 16:52.00 | nsadmin | so, what is it you're running that is producing this error |
| 16:52.01 | Lightning | i did check the processes and saw that the update had stopped, wasn't running so i ran apt-get from my ssh connect and saw the above error |
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| 16:53.02 | gravity | gihan: Ok... well, let's try this. Get out of the GUI so your keyboard responds properly and type "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log". That'll use the less pager to read the X server's log file. We'll see why your Xkb extension didn't load |
| 16:53.07 | Lightning | the install crashed, i did apt-get dist-upgrade, it said i needed to do apt-get -f install. that ran for awhile then gave the above error. apt-get dist-upgrade says again to run -f install. apt-get -f install continues to throw the error when doing the upgrade for libgnome2vfs2-common |
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| 16:53.56 | nsadmin | would you be willing to remove gnome entirely and reinstall it later? |
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| 16:54.25 | Lightning | i can. i normally use kde anyways. i tried doing apt-get remove but it wasn't happy being things weren't complete |
| 16:54.30 | Lightning | know how to completely remove gnome? |
| 16:54.55 | nsadmin | also waht happens when you run dpkg --configure --pending |
| 16:55.26 | Lightning | did that, configured a bunch of stuff, now it is just waiting for the last handful of packages (like openoffice) to be setup |
| 16:56.05 | Lightning | if i can get around the gnome issue (doing apt-get remove gnome says i need to finish the install for unmet dependancies) then it should be good |
| 16:56.05 | nsadmin | waiting? |
| 16:56.10 | Lightning | i don't care to even have gnome around |
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| 16:56.48 | Lightning | dpkg --configure --pending just errors about packages that are not installed yet, all of which are not installing as apt-get -f install is failing on the gnome |
| 16:56.48 | dpkg | Lightning: what are you talking about? |
| 16:57.10 | Lightning | i did it earlier and it configured everything else |
| 16:57.11 | daredake | is just executing tc from rc.local goes along the debian way to traffic shaping? |
| 16:57.27 | kriebel | Lightning, try apt-get -f install |
| 16:57.29 | kriebel | I think |
| 16:57.36 | kriebel | to finish installing |
| 16:57.43 | nsadmin | kriebel: he did that |
| 16:57.47 | kriebel | oh, sorry |
| 16:57.48 | daredake | or should i use something special? |
| 16:58.03 | Lightning | kriebel: that is was is throwing the /libgconfbackend-xml.so: undefined symbol: g_dgettext error |
| 16:58.12 | valdyn | daredake: rc.local is ok |
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| 16:58.21 | sepult | is there any way to move /var to another partition ? |
| 16:58.31 | Lightning | nsadmin: how can i get apt to stop trying gnome and remove gnome from the list? apt-get remove gnome wants -f install to finish first |
| 16:58.33 | daredake | valdyn, thanks |
| 16:58.35 | orioni | how can i perform a low level format to an usb flash disk ? |
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| 16:58.41 | valdyn | daredake: but its not sufficient for a perfect setup |
| 16:59.06 | asg | sepult: the best way is either to boot to single user mode and move data or use a livecd. Either should be fine, just make sure to add an /etc/fstab entry once the move is done |
| 16:59.07 | Metro_joe | setxkbmap doesnt seem to be a command in debian, what can i use instead? |
| 16:59.12 | giahn1 | gravity: there is something like "The core keyboard device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout." looks like keyboard layout problem? |
| 16:59.14 | daredake | valdyn, oh, then what should i use instead of own shellscripts executing from rc.local ? |
| 16:59.23 | valdyn | daredake: a) refresh rules automatically when you reset an interface or similar stuff is not handled by rc.local |
| 16:59.23 | nsadmin | Lightning: it seems things are fairly messed up right now... |
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| 16:59.27 | sepult | asg: ok thank you |
| 16:59.46 | nsadmin | when you started this upgrade, did you first upgrade dpkg, apt and aptitude? |
| 16:59.49 | valdyn | daredake: i would familiarize myself with shorewall |
| 16:59.50 | gravity | giahn1: Ok. As root in the terminal run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the quotes) and go through the questions it asks you. Then start X and give it a try. |
| 17:00.09 | valdyn | daredake: it can work with your script or its own tc facility |
| 17:00.14 | Lightning | believe so. any way to verify they are proper? |
| 17:00.21 | kriebel | orioni: don't. you can erase it with `shred` |
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| 17:00.44 | daredake | valdyn, thanks |
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| 17:00.54 | nsadmin | could you show the exact error again? |
| 17:00.55 | kriebel | orioni: but don't bother with any random data writes |
| 17:00.58 | tuv | when running a cpu-bound program (niced mprime), audio playback exhibits some weired interruptions. mplayer stopped playback with a play_audio module error. other programs continue, but with frequent short-rewind-like effects. i tried cpulimit with no success |
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| 17:01.16 | valdyn | daredake: you are free to make your own set of scripts however, to be put into rc.local or an init script and /etc/network/if-up.d |
| 17:01.52 | valdyn | daredake: now that were at it i think putting it and adjusting it to /etc/network/if-up.d/ is better than rc.local to |
| 17:02.06 | Lightning | http://www.pastebin.ca/1374121 is the errors |
| 17:02.19 | Lightning | be right back. thought i had more time. i'll check the history when i return |
| 17:02.20 | daredake | really, looks so |
| 17:02.25 | orioni | kriebel: the prob is that my pc cant format it |
| 17:02.36 | giahn1 | gravity: still same result |
| 17:02.39 | tuv | i have to stop the cpu-bound task or accept the weired audio. why does that happen? broken driver? any solutions? |
| 17:02.47 | orioni | or better it recognize the usb but cant write data to it |
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| 17:03.19 | valdyn | tuv: default debian kernels might exhibit this more than a low latency kernel |
| 17:03.42 | valdyn | tuv: cause is a to small buffer size for the latency you are actually having anyway |
| 17:03.45 | infinity1 | how do you create a debian build envionrment? i want to compile 32 and 64 bit packages for sarge and lenny on one machine |
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| 17:04.10 | gravity | giahn1: Can you check the log file and see if it's still got the same error? |
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| 17:04.46 | valdyn | tuv: but the first place to try ( because its easy ) might be mplayer -cache <cachesize> |
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| 17:06.07 | giahn1 | gravity: yes same setof errors with "** (gnome-settings-daemon:10230): WARNING **: Unable to start a11y_keyboard manager: XKB functionality is disabled. |
| 17:06.08 | giahn1 | " |
| 17:06.09 | valdyn | infinity1: you have the build environment |
| 17:06.12 | valdyn | !ssb |
| 17:06.12 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 17:06.25 | valdyn | infinity1: at least for the arch you are running |
| 17:06.38 | subsume | Can anyone recommend a website mirroring tool? |
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| 17:06.46 | valdyn | infinity1: for the other you need a chroot environment, see debootstrap about that |
| 17:07.30 | valdyn | infinity1: questions is, why the hell compile? |
| 17:07.35 | infinity1 | valdyn: i thougth there were some tools for doing this |
| 17:07.38 | infinity1 | valdyn: backporting mostly |
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| 17:07.53 | gravity | giahn1: What version does X -version say? Just the first line of output is fine |
| 17:08.02 | valdyn | infinity1: tools? "apt-get build-dep packagename && apt-get -b source package" |
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| 17:08.35 | infinity1 | valdyn: tools outside of the standard stuff for compiling for multiple architectures |
| 17:08.36 | jetpda | has time to kill |
| 17:08.37 | tuv | valdyn, mplayer's errors aren't exactly reproducible |
| 17:08.44 | tuv | it's random |
| 17:08.55 | valdyn | tuv: so? |
| 17:08.55 | icebrain | hi, I'm building a vanilla kernel using make-kpkg and a custom .config from my prev kernel and I'm getting this: "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.29-onice-noinit not in control info" |
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| 17:09.49 | jetpda | !kill kernel dev |
| 17:09.50 | dpkg | rips off kernel dev's balls with a large lead pipe |
| 17:09.55 | jetpda | ooo |
| 17:10.13 | valdyn | tuv: its a race condition where something mplayer does needs to happen at the same time as theres conditions where that action hits high latency |
| 17:10.25 | tuv | valdyn, in fact it happened once, and i can't seem to be able to get it again, so i can't tell whether -cache will have any effect |
| 17:10.33 | valdyn | tuv: sure its "random", nothing weird about that |
| 17:10.54 | valdyn | tuv: so maybe your cpu bound app has nothing to do with it |
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| 17:11.07 | nicktastic | Was 2.6.28 pulled from the archive? |
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| 17:11.21 | icebrain | nicktastic: are you asking me? |
| 17:11.41 | nicktastic | I'm asking anyone who knows the answer. |
| 17:11.54 | tuv | valdyn, i only see (actually hear) this weired playback effect when the cpu-bound app is running. so is there any other solutions, or is a low latency kernel the only one? |
| 17:11.56 | valdyn | tuv: no point in talking about it though if you can reproduce |
| 17:12.07 | valdyn | tuv: no point in talking about it though if you cannot reproduce |
| 17:12.12 | giahn1 | gravity: i used apt-get install x-window-system-core to install it |
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| 17:12.19 | valdyn | tuv: those so called low latency kernels might not fix your issue |
| 17:12.28 | valdyn | tuv: same thing as with -cache |
| 17:12.40 | gravity | giahn1: Don't do that. Use xorg please. |
| 17:12.40 | tuv | valdyn, i can't reproduce mplayer's error, but the weired effects are too frequent and annoying (about once a second) |
| 17:12.57 | gravity | giahn1: Wait... what version of Debian is this? |
| 17:13.02 | valdyn | tuv: oh those weird effects are showing with which program then? |
| 17:13.19 | giahn1 | debian 5 |
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| 17:13.44 | gravity | giahn1: Yeah. Install xorg instead. |
| 17:13.47 | kriebel | orioni: then I don't know what to tell you. use dmesg to see what devices it's assigned, and try fdisk |
| 17:13.49 | gravity | x-window-system-core is dead. |
| 17:13.57 | kriebel | orioni: it might be toast. happens |
| 17:14.02 | gravity | It was transitional in etch |
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| 17:14.21 | jetpda | heh valdyn is priv'n #debian again :) |
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| 17:14.37 | orioni | kriebel: it recognizes the size ( 4gb ) but cant format it |
| 17:14.39 | giahn1 | ya when i tried rerun command im getting [Note, selecting xorg instead of x-window-system-core |
| 17:14.40 | giahn1 | xorg is already the newest version.] |
| 17:14.46 | jetpda | waves @gravity |
| 17:15.05 | valdyn | gravity: any idea what jetpda is talking about? |
| 17:15.14 | Lightning | i'm back, sorry about that |
| 17:15.15 | kriebel | orioni: "format" is a bad term. |
| 17:15.15 | subsume | can I use wget to mirror a remote website and all linked pages? |
| 17:15.15 | ajavid | huh |
| 17:15.20 | ajavid | jets on crack recently |
| 17:15.27 | tuv | valdyn, every program playing audio. up to now: lastfm, flash plugin in firefox, mplayer, totem-xine |
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| 17:15.38 | gravity | jetpda valdyn I haven't been following... |
| 17:15.41 | kriebel | orioni: are you trying to write a partition table? make an FS? |
| 17:15.49 | ajavid | gravity, don't bother... get brain cancer ;) |
| 17:15.59 | valdyn | gravity: 18:14 < jetpda> heh valdyn is priv'n #debian again :) <- just that |
| 17:16.01 | orioni | i did that |
| 17:16.04 | orioni | and the same |
| 17:16.09 | Lightning | nsadmin: any thoughts? |
| 17:16.16 | ajavid | takes away jet's crackpipe |
| 17:16.17 | orioni | it says OK and than i cant access it |
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| 17:16.28 | gravity | priv'n? |
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| 17:16.35 | gravity | I have no idea what you're both on |
| 17:16.36 | valdyn | gravity: and he told me before that i was somehow advertising ipv6 |
| 17:16.39 | valdyn | gravity: which im not |
| 17:16.53 | ajavid | valdyn, blame it on the crack and move on ;) |
| 17:17.13 | kriebel | subsume: I think so. read the man page. it has lots of examples |
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| 17:17.16 | gravity | anyway... |
| 17:17.18 | subsume | Thanks. |
| 17:17.20 | giahn1 | gravity: looks like my system having xorg newest version |
| 17:17.25 | Metro_joe | haha ;) |
| 17:17.28 | infinity1 | valdyn: pbuilder |
| 17:17.46 | jetpda | something about your irc client sends... a60:f01b:0:0:0:0:1 PRIVMSG: |
| 17:17.55 | gravity | giahn1: Yeah, I saw. Sorry I got distracted by those two. Anyway, can you put your xorg.conf in a pastebin somewhere? If you could put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in one as well that'd be very helpful |
| 17:18.14 | valdyn | Im using irssi |
| 17:18.15 | jetpda | nobody elses... and only when I use this |
| 17:18.23 | gravity | giahn1: Basically without seeing those I can't really help you more |
| 17:18.34 | valdyn | jetpda: most people are not on ipv6, that much is true |
| 17:18.36 | giahn1 | gravity: sure ill put it |
| 17:18.38 | jetpda | xchat at home I don't see it |
| 17:19.07 | gravity | giahn1: Great |
| 17:19.08 | valdyn | jetpda: must be your current irc client then |
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| 17:19.36 | kriebel | I use irssi and have never had trouble like that |
| 17:19.59 | valdyn | tuv: ok, i think you should try a low latency kernel |
| 17:20.11 | tuv | valdyn, is there one in debian? |
| 17:20.13 | jetpda | I guess come to think of it it must be a raw irc command, as opossed to /amsg |
| 17:20.13 | valdyn | tuv: maybe lowering the priority of your cpu eater can do it too |
| 17:20.16 | valdyn | tuv: no |
| 17:20.45 | jetpda | you're just sending to #debian |
| 17:21.12 | tuv | valdyn, it's niced to 19, and limited with cpulimit to 50% (that's half a core time in a dual core system) -- still no improvement |
| 17:21.20 | jetpda | priv'ing everybody in #debian :) |
| 17:21.37 | jetpda | ybut so do we all) |
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| 17:21.42 | giahn1 | gravity: xorg.conf http://paste2.org/p/172586 |
| 17:21.42 | giahn1 | log file http://paste2.org/p/172588 |
| 17:21.49 | valdyn | jetpda: shouldnt more people be complaining then? |
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| 17:22.26 | valdyn | tuv: do you understand how to build a debian kernel? |
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| 17:22.38 | jetpda | no I see it only on this client...so it's this client |
| 17:22.42 | Metro_joe | hurray for vista "Microsoft Windows : The application is not responding...." |
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| 17:23.15 | kriebel | Metro_joe: that sounds like a movie title |
| 17:23.29 | tuv | valdyn, i did build a few a while back |
| 17:23.32 | Metro_joe | kriebel: The dev who knew to much! |
| 17:23.37 | jetpda | ok I have to park the truck now |
| 17:23.45 | Metro_joe | And now, the "Corporation" was after him! |
| 17:23.52 | valdyn | tuv: its probably in the debian wiki too. Anyway i do not want to explain it. |
| 17:24.24 | tuv | valdyn, thanks. i don't have time now to listen to kernel-building explanations.. will take it from here. thanks again |
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| 17:25.14 | valdyn | tuv: change HZ to 1000, thats CONFIG_HZ=1000 and set Preemption model to low latency desktop, thats CONFIG_PREEMPT=y |
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| 17:25.37 | valdyn | tuv: i have no idea what CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU affects really, so might aswell leave that unchanged |
| 17:25.44 | jetpda | ciao |
| 17:25.59 | gravity | giahn1: I'm looking now... |
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| 17:26.22 | giahn1 | gravity: thanks mate for help |
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| 17:27.42 | gravity | This is weird |
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| 17:30.58 | gravity | Well, it's clear that it's not loading the xkb extension. I have no idea why though. aiui it should be built-in |
| 17:32.02 | giahn1 | any way to fully uninstall and install again? |
| 17:32.24 | gravity | That's probably not the right solution |
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| 17:35.11 | kriebel | uninstall what? |
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| 17:36.29 | Lightning | anyone know how i can force uninstall gnome when apt-get wants me to force the install? trying to fix a dist-upgrade that did not complete |
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| 17:39.05 | megaTherion | any flashplugin for iceweasel, I cant find it? |
| 17:39.33 | kriebel | it's in non-free |
| 17:40.04 | kriebel | or you can DL the tarball and put the one or two files in by hand |
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| 17:41.52 | gravity | giahn1: Yeah, I really don't know what's going on here. xkb should be built in to your server, but for some reason it's not getting loaded. I have no idea why. |
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| 17:43.07 | kriebel | try running X with an ampty config? |
| 17:43.12 | kriebel | *empty |
| 17:44.13 | gravity | That's a reasonably good idea. |
| 17:44.41 | gravity | giahn1: Yeah, let's try kriebel's idea. Rename your xorg.conf to something else and try that. |
| 17:45.07 | mimiloon | hi everyboy, i'm trying to install fuppes in lenny and when i try to run the make command, i get these error messages: 'memset' was not declared in this scope and 'strlen' was not declared in this scope; anyway to get around this problem? |
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| 17:46.15 | kriebel | mimiloon: sounds like a totally wacked build invironment |
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| 17:46.30 | kriebel | *environment |
| 17:46.31 | valdyn | !b-e mimiloon |
| 17:46.32 | dpkg | mimiloon: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 17:46.40 | valdyn | mimiloon: the first error counts, theres one error higher up |
| 17:46.59 | kriebel | I'll have to remember that macro |
| 17:47.05 | giahn1 | gravity: ok mate |
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| 17:48.48 | mimiloon | thanks everyone for the input, i'll give it a shot |
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| 17:49.21 | Lightning | anyone know anything about the g_dgettext issue during a dist-upgrade? |
| 17:49.32 | valdyn | !bts |
| 17:49.32 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges> . |
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| 17:50.31 | Lightning | did a dist-upgrade that has failed and the libgnome entries are failing the install |
| 17:51.04 | Metro_joe | What is the best non-X partition editor. i googled different stuff, best i came up with was "parted" it didnt seem very clear for me. was wondering if there was anything more straight forward |
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| 17:51.43 | kriebel | hahah |
| 17:52.11 | giahn1 | gravity: same result :( |
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| 17:52.37 | kriebel | of course it's goign to be less straight-forward without cute pictures of your disk to drag around |
| 17:52.45 | kriebel | did gparted add LVM support yet? |
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| 17:53.26 | ustunozgur | Hi, netstat -an shows some ports as listening via tcp6, for example :::27356. How can I change it to listen on IPv4? Or doesn't that make a difference? I'm trying to build a cluster here and the machines needs to listen on that port. Should I disable IPv6 completely? |
| 17:53.51 | Metro_joe | yes kriebel, most of all it makes me scared. but if i recall correctly, there used to be a ascii type graphical helper for a partition editor, just cant recall the name |
| 17:54.18 | kriebel | never seen one, sorry |
| 17:54.29 | patrikf | ustunozgur: with -p, netstat will show you the process |
| 17:54.34 | kriebel | I'd back up and wipe the disk |
| 17:54.34 | gravity | giahn1: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm out of ideas right now, and I'm afraid I don't have time to work on it any more. It's very strange. |
| 17:55.00 | gravity | There's something obvious I'm missing, I just can't think of it now. Guess I've been away from X for too long :-\ |
| 17:55.05 | Metro_joe | no need to backup, it contains a unused ubuntu install and 3 partitions(which i just want to make into one large one) |
| 17:55.06 | giahn1 | yeah mate no problem thanks for your time |
| 17:55.12 | kriebel | ustunozgur: in my experience, IPv6 listening sockets often "include" IPv4 ones |
| 17:55.15 | kriebel | so to speak |
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| 17:55.54 | kriebel | you can try to connect to the port with a TCP 4 client to test |
| 17:55.58 | kriebel | like nc or telnet |
| 17:56.11 | ustunozgur | kriebel, ok, thank you. And the ::: in front means it is listening on both localhost and external ip right? |
| 17:56.27 | kriebel | I think that's IPv6 speak for loooots of 0s |
| 17:56.27 | gravity | Metro_joe: parted is the standard answer really. It's the one the installer itself uses. |
| 17:56.35 | Metro_joe | k, thank you :) |
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| 17:58.58 | ustunozgur | kriebel, yes, and that means not only localhost I guess. I was initially suspecting it was only listening on localhost, but the problem seems to be somewhere else. |
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| 18:00.18 | mimiloon | dpkg: i've ran the command you've provided and still the same error after running make |
| 18:00.18 | dpkg | You are moron #2, mimiloon |
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| 18:00.36 | adama1 | !bot |
| 18:00.37 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 18:02.15 | mimiloon | !b-e |
| 18:02.15 | dpkg | [build-essential] a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>. |
| 18:02.29 | valdyn | mimiloon: that means your build environment is ok and now you get to read the README or INSTALL provided with whatever you tried to compile |
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| 18:04.40 | mimiloon | valdyn: thanks for the suggestion, i didn't look at readme |
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| 18:10.00 | Metro_joe | btw, it was cfdisk |
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| 18:11.21 | amphi | with the lead pipe? |
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| 18:11.29 | asg|nb | in the conservatory |
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| 18:11.55 | zeta | what's the latex2pdf package called? |
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| 18:18.13 | kriebel | Metro_joe: cfdisk is nice. Not sure why it's not more popular. I think we all thought you meant a more Partition Magic program |
| 18:18.25 | kriebel | for lossless partition changes |
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| 18:19.06 | Metro_joe | kriebel naw, cfdisk was exactly the one i knew from somewhere |
| 18:19.10 | Metro_joe | painless :) |
| 18:19.18 | kriebel | it is nice |
| 18:19.28 | kriebel | fdisk is faster once you learn it, though |
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| 18:19.55 | Metro_joe | probably is. tbh, ive always been very paranoid after twice wiping the wrong partitions |
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| 18:20.32 | Metro_joe | and so im very afraid of programs that arent very very clear on what im doing. im partially dyslexic so numbers and names sometimes screw me over |
| 18:21.08 | kriebel | the nice thing about fdisk is that it does warn you before it writes. in fact, you have to MAKE it write |
| 18:22.11 | Metro_joe | it does, and i agree. i like that |
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| 18:23.10 | Metro_joe | im trying to make screen start at boot. would a simple "update-rc.d screen defaults" be ok? or do i need to put it in the right runlevel etc? |
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| 18:23.55 | orioni | how can i put a image background during system boot ? |
| 18:24.00 | orioni | sth like knoppix |
| 18:24.02 | owned | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:24.34 | adb | owned: stop it |
| 18:25.11 | owned | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:25.13 | owned | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog9qGjT0Pw owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 18:26.49 | Genscher | i really need help :) I have some "fqdn |
| 18:26.49 | Genscher | " question |
| 18:26.54 | sniffersp | helpppppppppppppppp |
| 18:27.03 | sniffersp | install mqseries of debian |
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| 18:27.24 | Genscher | my server got an ip, i have several domains and can access the nameserver entries |
| 18:28.15 | Genscher | how can i create an "fully qualified domain name" in the nameserver (external one) which i can then assign to the server having only the ip? |
| 18:28.37 | ustunozgur | I have a 3rd party app (Matlab distributed computing daemon) that should listen on external ip, but listens on localhost. How can I force it to listen on external ip? |
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| 18:28.55 | Genscher | i have some mx entries which are like *.domain.de MX 100 bla.domain.de |
| 18:28.57 | orioni | genscher: are u refering to ptr records ? |
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| 18:29.22 | maligor | ustunozgur, that's entirely upto the program |
| 18:29.30 | orioni | genscher: have you created the reverse record zones ? |
| 18:29.49 | maligor | ustunozgur, unless you have a firewall blocking it ofcourse |
| 18:29.56 | jintxo | Genscher, an fqdn is nothing more than the"complete" name of the machine in DNS. in other words the fqdn is hostname+domainname, s you just need an A record for a host named "www" in domain "mydomain.com" to have fqdn www.mydomain.com for that host |
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| 18:30.03 | Metro_joe | nevermind, i can start screen manually, its not a big headache ;) |
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| 18:30.12 | ustunozgur | maligor, can it be due to a setting in the hosts file? I have removed the line returning the hostname to localhost, and changed it to external ip |
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| 18:30.21 | Siegfried | if i'm doing a huge scp -r overwriting a lot of stuff, how can i see at what state it is? |
| 18:30.21 | smagggyyyy | hello folks |
| 18:30.22 | ustunozgur | that fixed some issues, but not this one. |
| 18:30.36 | Genscher | jintxo, now that was simple :) and then i can reroute *.domain.de to www.domain.de thanks! |
| 18:30.41 | smagggyyyy | which is is the directory that should have the cacert of ldap server that i am trying to bind to ? |
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| 18:31.02 | maligor | ustunozgur, you'll have to open up the manual for how to change the bind address :P |
| 18:31.13 | maligor | the os doesn't have anything to do with that really |
| 18:31.21 | maligor | except maybe to allow or disallow it |
| 18:31.27 | Genscher | jintxo, and i didn't know an A record and not MX record is required. thanks for help |
| 18:31.32 | xand | woody |
| 18:31.33 | orioni | how can i put an image background while the system is booting ? |
| 18:31.37 | xand | !woody |
| 18:31.37 | dpkg | from memory, woody is the codename of Debian 3.0, released on July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge". Security support for woody was terminated on 2006-06-30. Woody was archived on 2007-01-10 but ISO-s are still available: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/. Ask me about <archive>. |
| 18:31.42 | ustunozgur | maligor I think it is disallowing but I don't have a firewall |
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| 18:32.30 | maxxle | Hello! I have here a arm-embedded device and need to install debian. I have a running x86-ubuntu and installed debootstrap. Can I install debian from there to a CF-Card (for ARM?) |
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| 18:33.00 | jintxo | Genscher, MX is for mail exchangers only |
| 18:33.29 | jintxo | A records are just "regular" hosts |
| 18:33.48 | kriebel | orioni: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+graphical+boot |
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| 18:34.22 | orioni | kriebel: what a nice help :) |
| 18:34.25 | maligor | ustunozgur, well, on a system that hasn't been secure with selinux or such, only ports below 1024 require priviliges to bind |
| 18:34.46 | maligor | everything else is free game |
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| 18:35.14 | maligor | and if it can bind to localhost, it should be able to do so to external interfaces |
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| 18:35.30 | kriebel | maxxle: read the debootstrap docs |
| 18:35.34 | r0bert0 | !squeezee |
| 18:35.40 | r0bert0 | !squeeze |
| 18:35.40 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html |
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| 18:36.21 | maxxle | kriebel: Im on it :) |
| 18:36.22 | ustunozgur | maligor, is there a generic way to change the bind address in the os, or should I be doing it in the program itself? |
| 18:36.24 | maxxle | thx |
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| 18:37.36 | jintxo | here he comes again |
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| 18:38.25 | amikrop | Why did I get this? |
| 18:38.29 | amikrop | $ tar -cfz webpage_0.1.orig.tar.gz webpage-0.1/ |
| 18:38.29 | amikrop | tar: webpage_0.1.orig.tar.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory |
| 18:38.29 | amikrop | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 18:38.52 | amikrop | I am trying to compress webpage-0.1/ to webpage_0.1.orig.tar.gz |
| 18:38.59 | kriebel | I think f has to go last |
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| 18:39.04 | kriebel | because of the arguement |
| 18:39.09 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:39.28 | kriebel | tar has really weird args |
| 18:39.35 | amikrop | oh, ok |
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| 18:39.37 | amikrop | thanks :) |
| 18:39.45 | kriebel | think of it as tar -x -z -f filename foo bar baz |
| 18:39.50 | amikrop | yeah, sure |
| 18:39.51 | amikrop | ;-) |
| 18:39.52 | amphi | it's not that weird - f is to specify the file |
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| 18:40.11 | kriebel | amphi: correct, but the optional -, etc... it's not like most other commands |
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| 18:40.34 | amphi | right |
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| 18:40.40 | Bladerunner05 | Hello, I need to backup an entire disk and restore it on another one (with different capacity) on another computer.... how to do this? |
| 18:40.54 | maligor | tar maybe? |
| 18:40.59 | kriebel | dump and restore work well |
| 18:41.07 | Bladerunner05 | I don't want to install debian,.... |
| 18:41.09 | Bladerunner05 | again |
| 18:41.19 | Bladerunner05 | like ghost... |
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| 18:41.28 | kriebel | multiple partitions? |
| 18:41.35 | asg|nb | !g4u |
| 18:41.35 | dpkg | somebody said g4u was ghost for unix, http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ |
| 18:41.36 | Bladerunner05 | yes, |
| 18:42.17 | maligor | does that work happily for grub too? |
| 18:42.19 | kriebel | I'd put both disks in, boot from CD, partition the new disk, and use dump | restore for all the ext partitions |
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| 18:42.32 | kriebel | then remove the old disk, and boot from CD again |
| 18:42.35 | kriebel | fix grub, etc |
| 18:42.38 | maligor | I doubt grub likes drive geometry changes too much |
| 18:42.47 | kriebel | it's fine with them |
| 18:42.50 | maligor | but yeah, you can use the installer cd rescue mode to reinstate grub, no issue that |
| 18:42.50 | kriebel | it's not LILO |
| 18:43.10 | icebrain | does anyone here use terminal bluetooth utilities? |
| 18:43.14 | asg|nb | better yet, if you use LVM, it's just a matter of sticking the new disk in and running pvmove |
| 18:43.25 | maligor | well, no, but I've had grub break at times when system geometry changed |
| 18:43.26 | kriebel | just mount your /, chroot, and run `install-grub --no-floppy /dev/whateverdisk` |
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| 18:43.39 | maligor | not recently tho |
| 18:44.07 | maligor | the installer cd rescue mode has a dialog option for fixing grub |
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| 18:45.00 | Akuw | how can i Install the OpenOffice.org updates ? |
| 18:45.01 | seria-mau | does ssh in lenny support -c none? |
| 18:45.07 | procdaemon | amikrop: tar czf webpage_0.1.orig.tar.gz webpage-0.1/ |
| 18:45.19 | procdaemon | srry |
| 18:45.22 | smagggyyyy | ello can someone please help diagnoize the problem i am having in trying to connect to a ldap server http://rafb.net/p/lYFal485.html |
| 18:45.28 | maligor | Akuw, on lenny? |
| 18:45.35 | PeterFA | Where do I get module oss_sequencer? GNU Solfege complains it can't find that, and Timidity start script complains that /dev/dsp is an invalid argument, although ls /dev/dsp* shows a list of devices. |
| 18:45.38 | seria-mau | i doesnt complain when i use it, but when i log packets with wireshark, they're all encrypted |
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| 18:46.29 | maligor | Akuw, lenny backports has 3.0-someversion |
| 18:46.43 | xxtjaxx | Hey guys Somebody there from Networkmanager?` |
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| 18:47.04 | bolt | any powerful decompilers for linux? trying to analyze what a windows trojan is up to... suppose that may be more of a windows app type of thing but thought i'd ask anyway |
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| 18:47.20 | Jemt | !tell xxtjaxx about just ask |
| 18:47.21 | asg|nb | smagggyyyy: from the looks of it, the cert appears untrusted and that is why it's bombing out. Find a way to make your client trust it and you should be fine. |
| 18:47.39 | Metro_joe | im not understanding the useradd man page :S. im trying to figure out how to add a user to a group, without changing the main group of the user |
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| 18:47.50 | asg|nb | Metro_joe: adduser <user> <group> |
| 18:47.52 | jelly | Metro_joe: adduser user group |
| 18:47.54 | Metro_joe | ... |
| 18:47.58 | Metro_joe | could it be simpler? |
| 18:48.03 | Metro_joe | thanks ;)+ |
| 18:48.08 | asg|nb | no |
| 18:48.17 | xxtjaxx | Jemt sorry |
| 18:48.29 | bolt | does debian even have useradd? alias? |
| 18:48.44 | Jemt | xxtjaxx: No need to appologies :) |
| 18:48.45 | jelly | Metro_joe: yes, the system could not have "adduser" and "useradd" commands that are almost completely different |
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| 18:50.10 | Metro_joe | jelly, ah, i was looking at the wrong man page then |
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| 18:50.47 | Metro_joe | i googled! i promise! just opened the wrong results ;) |
| 18:51.11 | orioni | :) |
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| 18:52.52 | orioni | if i put quiet to the grub options it will be not so verbose |
| 18:53.07 | orioni | but will these messages still be available on the dmesg ? |
| 18:53.29 | orioni | i mean the untruncated version of the boot proccess |
| 18:53.33 | orioni | ? |
| 18:53.34 | jelly | Metro_joe: that's why the answer to "can it be simpler" is an affirmative one |
| 18:54.54 | orioni | !grub |
| 18:54.54 | dpkg | grub is probably the Grand Unified Bootloader at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ . It's an extremely powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes, understands many filesystems (including <reiserfs> and <XFS> since 0.97), but see http://bugs.debian.org/grub. For an install guide, see http://linuxjournal.com/4622, or "aptitude install grub grub-doc". To reinstall, ask about <fixmbr> or <grub.errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
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| 18:57.08 | Metro_joe | whats a safe way of turning off my computer remotly(in command line) poweroff seems a little abrubt.(or is it safe?) |
| 18:58.10 | Mikaze | Metro_joe: There's usually a 'halt' command that does the job. |
| 18:58.23 | myeggo | hello, i dont have sound, i executed alsaconf and it says all is ok except some warnings, the last one is amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument |
| 18:58.32 | myeggo | how can i reconfigure this? |
| 18:59.07 | myeggo | http://rafb.net/p/M7KPzj56.html |
| 18:59.12 | Metro_joe | Mikaze ah, see it here, so normall use would be "halt -p" and that should do it but be safe |
| 18:59.12 | Mikaze | Metro_joe: There's also a 'reboot' command that will restart the puter. |
| 18:59.39 | Metro_joe | Mikaze, ah, thanks |
| 18:59.44 | Mikaze | Metro_joe: Halt usually powers down the system completely. |
| 18:59.54 | Metro_joe | Mikaze thank you :) |
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| 19:00.27 | dtcrshr | whats the difference btween shutdown and halt/ |
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| 19:00.29 | dtcrshr | ? |
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| 19:01.15 | Metro_joe | dunno shutdown, but when i used poweroff, it was very very quick(and felt like it didnt power down safely) |
| 19:02.11 | patrikf | Metro_joe: usually you'd do "shutdown -h now" |
| 19:02.14 | Mikaze | Metro_joe: It's a little kernel dependant. I believe the hal daemon and the proper modules are needed, but those are normally working. |
| 19:02.56 | patrikf | on most systems, "halt" equals "shutdown -h now". but then, on other systems, "halt" might just be the part that does the halting, i.e. takes the power from the machine |
| 19:02.58 | dtcrshr | shutdown -s, and -h turns the pc off, but i dont know how to differ one another |
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| 19:03.26 | patrikf | dtcrshr: -s? |
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| 19:03.51 | Mikaze | The halt command in Debian performs a proper shutdown. |
| 19:04.04 | patrikf | in debian, yes |
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| 19:04.26 | SparFux | Can I mark a package as "file of this package should not be overwritten, if other package wants to do so, just ignore its desire" |
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| 19:04.33 | KIAaze | hi, is it possible to configure /etc/sudoers so that it asks for the password of the invoking user by default, but for the password of the user specified by "-u" otherwise? |
| 19:05.12 | OSUKid7 | hi, I just setup LDAPS+Kerberos authentication to a Windows AD server with PAM, and it works great, except after I reboot the system, I can't login as an LDAP user until I restart the networking service - even if I wait several minutes, it doesn't allow AD users to login. as soon as I restart networking though, it works. any hints on where to troubleshoot this? |
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| 19:06.36 | asg|nb | OSUKid7: enable debugging on the pam line (i.e., append debug to the end of it) and see if /var/log/auth.log shows anything interesting. |
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| 19:09.02 | OSUKid7 | asg|nb: thanks, it's now showing "krb5_get_init_creds_password: Clock skew too great" - hmm... |
| 19:09.16 | OSUKid7 | yes, the clock is off |
| 19:09.33 | OSUKid7 | weird though... this is a VM too lol |
| 19:10.17 | asg|nb | OSUKid7: that happens with vms, what virtualization backend are you using? |
| 19:10.28 | OSUKid7 | asg|nb: VMware ESXi |
| 19:10.45 | OSUKid7 | and I think I just solved it... NTP client is disabled on the ESXi host |
| 19:11.22 | asg|nb | OSUKid7: by default kerberos will not talk if the clockskew is greater than 5 minutes. Solve that and you will be fine. |
| 19:11.32 | OSUKid7 | gotcha, cool |
| 19:11.40 | asg|nb | no worries |
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| 19:14.26 | SparFux | I have two packages with some filenames identical in them. How can I tell which one gets precedence? |
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| 19:15.00 | asg|nb | SparFux: /msg dpkg divert |
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| 19:16.16 | SparFux | dpkg isn't answering. :-( |
| 19:16.16 | dpkg | i don't know, SparFux |
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| 19:17.36 | SparFux | but I found something on the web on this keyword. thx. |
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| 19:18.29 | bolt | any powerful decompilers for linux? trying to analyze what a windows trojan is up to... suppose that may be more of a windows app type of thing but thought i'd ask anyway |
| 19:18.32 | asg|nb | !divert |
| 19:18.32 | dpkg | Don't try to convince dpkg to overwrite files and don't start playing with "--force" options for dpkg. Instead, "divert" one of the files out of the way so that there is no conflict. See man dpkg-divert and also http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html. Working with the package management system is much easier than trying to work against it. |
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| 19:29.58 | jetpda | z |
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| 19:30.25 | znx | dustybin RAWKS! |
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| 19:30.54 | jetpda | makes a parrot sound |
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| 19:38.14 | ajavid | jetscreamer, i got a parrot sound |
| 19:38.31 | ajavid | jetscreamer, "they hate us for our freedom." "they hate us for our freedom." (repeat as neccessery) |
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| 19:54.50 | jaggz | audacity 1.3.5-lenny is not saving or exporting my recording :( |
| 19:55.00 | orioni | !vlan |
| 19:55.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, vlan is (virtual LAN) A VLAN is created when a bunch of physically connected ports are grouped together by network hardware that supports VLANs. These VLANs are each treated as completely separate entities and can only be joined together by a router. This scheme is useful for grouping departments together for security and minimizing network traffic. |
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| 19:55.22 | orioni | !router-on-a-stick |
| 19:55.37 | orioni | !router |
| 19:55.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, router is A device that bridges an internal network to another network. Take a ferry as an example: cars that need to go to the other side of a body of water (another network) need to use the ferry (the router). If they want to stay on their side, they simply don't go on the ferry. Also a device used to bridge a computer to a long distance digital communications network, such as ISDN. |
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| 19:56.59 | debianinstall | hi! I'm trying to install debian via usb (I don't have CD) but when the debian installer try to find the CD it can't. I tried to mount manually the usb over the /cdrom directory, but same situation... any idea? |
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| 19:58.36 | jaggz | read pages on installing from usb? |
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| 19:59.12 | debianinstall | jaggz I did it. but only find pages to prepare the pendrive to boot the debian installer, no my problem |
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| 20:02.37 | Farhadix | Hi guys, I have a webcam that works fine on etch, but now in lenny doesn't work, this is output of dmesg when plug webcam, http://www.nopaste.com/p/adZViPROcb there isn't any video or like this in /dev . what's wrong? |
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| 20:06.11 | johndoe | how can i download the source code of "Volume Applet 2.22.3" |
| 20:06.25 | ranix | debianinstall: there appears to be little good information suitable for a newbie on usb install |
| 20:06.39 | johndoe | its the standard gnome volume applet |
| 20:06.41 | ranix | debianinstall: can you just debootstrap to the drive or something? |
| 20:06.49 | ranix | debianinstall: what is your level of sophistication |
| 20:07.18 | johndoe | debianinstall: which version of debian are you trying to install? |
| 20:07.45 | ranix | johndoe: what is the package name you would apt-get to install the volume applet |
| 20:07.54 | johndoe | ranix: sec.. |
| 20:07.57 | ranix | johndoe: apt-get source (packagename) |
| 20:07.58 | debianinstall | ranix, johndoe I used unetbootin with a debian testing ISO downloaded by me |
| 20:08.07 | ranix | johndoe: puts the source in the cwd |
| 20:08.16 | johndoe | which version? i386 IA64, sparc, ... ? |
| 20:08.27 | johndoe | ranix: thanks |
| 20:08.30 | debianinstall | the ISO is the first debian CD |
| 20:08.38 | ranix | debianinstall: ah, get one from here instead |
| 20:08.39 | johndoe | whats the full name |
| 20:08.52 | Farhadix | your current architect |
| 20:08.55 | johndoe | youre not giving us any info |
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| 20:09.21 | ranix | http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall |
| 20:09.32 | ranix | johndoe: chill it's cool, he's new |
| 20:09.49 | debianinstall | johndoe it's a i386 testing daily (I'm not sure about daily) |
| 20:09.53 | johndoe | ah ok |
| 20:10.01 | debianinstall | ranix go see ;) thx |
| 20:10.02 | jaggz | I installed two versions of a lib, but the later did not overwrite the /etc/alternatives file so point to the later version.. hmm... I'm thinking of re-writing the symlink: ln -fs /usr/lib/wx/config/gtk2-unicode-release-2.8 /etc/alternatives/wx-config |
| 20:10.06 | johndoe | i thought you maybe downloaded ia64 |
| 20:10.15 | jaggz | s/so point/to point/ |
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| 20:10.25 | debianinstall | I tried with a simple netinst before try with the full cd, but it didn't start |
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| 20:10.32 | johndoe | debianinstall: the installer is probably missing some drivers for the usb |
| 20:10.38 | johndoe | maybe |
| 20:10.48 | jaggz | I'm not sure if doing this overwrite conflicts with the package management though |
| 20:11.07 | ranix | more likely the driver is pointing something to /dev/cdrom instead of /dev/sd[a-z][0-9] |
| 20:11.23 | ranix | s/driver/installer |
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| 20:12.08 | ranix | I wish I could sed my typing and stuttering mistakes in real-time |
| 20:12.27 | debianinstall | what do u recommend me? unetbootin or another program? |
| 20:12.43 | ranix | debianinstall: you know more than I about that already if you have used unetbootin |
| 20:14.10 | debianinstall | ok ranix, go see because I think that I can't copy to usb this files with unetbootin, so go see |
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| 20:14.38 | ranix | debianinstall: there are lots of Debian channels if English isn't your best language too |
| 20:14.56 | ranix | debianinstall: lots of people in french, portuguese, chinese, all sorts |
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| 20:15.51 | debianinstall | ;) yes, I'm on #debian-es, but there are more people here and I can understand english good, but my writed english isn't good enough |
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| 20:15.59 | luckylucy | can i give just one person read and write access to a folder without changing them to the owner? |
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| 20:16.26 | ranix | luckylucy: you have owner level control and group level control |
| 20:16.30 | asg|nb | luckylucy: you can by using acls on supported filesystems |
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| 20:16.58 | ranix | luckylucy: access control lists are complex. |
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| 20:18.41 | luckylucy | ranix: i want to remain the owner, but i want to have one other person allowed rwx for the folder. is it really a complex thing? |
| 20:18.56 | asg|nb | man setfacl / man getfacl |
| 20:19.36 | luckylucy | no man entry for either? |
| 20:19.43 | asg|nb | !installit |
| 20:19.44 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 20:20.21 | jaggz | why not make them owner? |
| 20:20.40 | asg|nb | because luckylucy doesn't want that |
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| 20:21.03 | ranix | luckylucy: if you have folder "accounting", owned rwx by luckylucy:luckylucy, you can make a new group "accountants" |
| 20:21.29 | ranix | luckylucy: chown the group ownership to "accountants" and add luckylucy and ranix to "accountants" |
| 20:21.38 | ranix | luckylucy: and now both of us can use it |
| 20:22.01 | ranix | luckylucy: add users to groups with adduser (user) (group) |
| 20:22.02 | jaggz | but it may be difficult to force one of you to use it against their will |
| 20:22.42 | luckylucy | jaggz: what do you mean? |
| 20:23.11 | ranix | luckylucy: and set group ownership with chown (userowner):(groupowner) (file) |
| 20:23.22 | ranix | luckylucy: more info in man/info |
| 20:23.46 | ranix | I am building up my helping quota so I can troll on Monday |
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| 20:27.45 | Golden|Wolf | hey can i install firefox on debian? with apt-get |
| 20:28.14 | asg|nb | install iceweasel, it's the same thing without the non-free branding that mozilla was so pissed about. |
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| 20:28.50 | simonrvn | !why iceweasel |
| 20:28.50 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 20:35.50 | Golden|Wolf | hmm apparently my sound isnt working :S everything is okay in alsa and was working when i started (start up music) |
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| 20:38.59 | Golden|Wolf | any idea? |
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| 20:40.15 | mhymn | Golden|Wolf: '/msg dpkg alsa checklist' might be helpful |
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| 20:42.21 | Tuxguy | Wasnt there a debian installer for windows? |
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| 20:43.03 | mhymn | Tuxguy: there once was a google, your friend |
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| 20:43.35 | Tuxguy | mhymn, right, but since its a debian product, i figured the best place to ask was a debian channel? |
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| 20:44.35 | mhymn | Tuxguy: http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_windows_installer <-- google! |
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| 20:44.53 | Tuxguy | thats not a debian site |
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| 20:47.02 | stuckey | Anyone here use MOC (music on console player)? |
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| 20:47.29 | mhymn | Tuxguy: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader?action=show&redirect=InstallFromWindows <-- google! |
| 20:49.03 | Piet | i've got some issue with xen + encrypted root. i have my dom0 on a dm-crypt + luks partition, and now, when i create a domu using xen-tools and start this domu, it asks me for a block device password, but there is none. i can press return 3 times and it will continue booting, but that's not exactly a perfect setup. |
| 20:49.16 | Piet | is there something i can do to work around this? |
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| 20:51.02 | smacnay | man, that Gnome soundconverter app is handy in a pinch |
| 20:52.20 | gewt | ... |
| 20:52.23 | gewt | i setup bind.... |
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| 20:53.08 | gewt | /etc/bind/db.root exists, but dig has ABSOLUTELY NO dns info |
| 20:53.16 | gewt | any clues wtf is broken |
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| 20:54.58 | gewt | [b4@Tranquility ~]$ host darkstar.devnode.org |
| 20:54.58 | gewt | Host darkstar.devnode.org not found: 5(REFUSED) |
| 20:55.01 | gewt | that's a new error |
| 20:55.01 | gewt | o_O |
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| 21:01.44 | jaggz | http://alioth.debian.org/~fjp/debtree/ debtree â package dependency graphs on steroids |
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| 21:02.38 | enouf | well .. that certainly didn't work ... sigh |
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| 21:04.00 | Ilie | hi, I just installed the stable version of debian and I'm having some problems with the display on a dell inspiron 1501 |
| 21:04.10 | Ilie | any ideas how can I use the ati driver ? |
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| 21:04.37 | Farhadix | what package contain translates of gnome? |
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| 21:07.02 | mhymn | Farhadix: gnome-libs-data ? |
| 21:07.59 | Farhadix | thanks |
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| 21:08.39 | jelly | Ilie: /msg dpkg fglrx one-liner |
| 21:09.20 | Ilie | thanks jelly |
| 21:09.39 | cantido | I'm creating a init script for an application. The application has a daemon mode where it forks off, but no way to change the user it runs as.. how can I work around that? |
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| 21:12.24 | dkr | run it as whatever user you want it to run as? |
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| 21:13.08 | cantido | dkr: found it, start-stop-daemon can change the user :) |
| 21:13.25 | cantido | dkr: init scripts get executed by root in most cases, I dont want this running as root |
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| 21:13.56 | dkr | cantido: so run it as whatever user you want to run it as? :) |
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| 21:14.06 | dkr | su user -c program |
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| 21:14.25 | lloowen | Hello all |
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| 21:14.37 | Garda | whoever the chanel's operator is |
| 21:14.45 | lloowen | anyone here using alpine with qmail? |
| 21:15.03 | lloowen | on debian of course |
| 21:15.05 | cantido | dkr: yes, but that didn't play well with start-stop-daemon.. I'm working from the skeleton script debian ships with.. start-stop-daemon can do uid/gid change though |
| 21:15.08 | Garda | DeviL_OfGiRL-and: is a spambot offering porn |
| 21:15.09 | cantido | !anyone |
| 21:15.09 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> <search> |
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| 21:15.21 | dkr | cantido: yeah, the -c option to start-stop-daemon does the same thing |
| 21:15.28 | at0m|c | Garda: DeviL_OfGiRL-and /msg'd me too |
| 21:15.44 | at0m|c | how do we notify ops? |
| 21:15.51 | Garda | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 21:15.54 | lloowen | it's kind of specific to debian. |
| 21:16.05 | dkr | !anyone |
| 21:16.05 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> <search> |
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| 21:17.09 | lloowen | Ok whre does alpine reside on a debian distro? |
| 21:17.37 | cantido | lloowen: dpkg -l |
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| 21:18.20 | kyncani | * dpkg -L ;) |
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| 21:18.35 | cantido | ah yes.. hehe |
| 21:18.50 | macli | I finished installlation of debian lenny, but I missed the network mirror setup step, How could I redo that step, apt-get setup? |
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| 21:19.02 | stew | lloowen: you have the alpine package installed and you are trying to find out where files were installed? or something different? |
| 21:19.31 | stew | macli: edit /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces), possibly also /etc/hosts /etc/hostname /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:19.41 | stew | macli: oh |
| 21:19.53 | stew | macli: network MIRROR setup. sorry, that is /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:19.58 | lloowen | great thanks... |
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| 21:20.07 | stew | macli: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 21:20.37 | macli | stew: manually add link in /etc/apt/sources.list ? I recall there is a command to do that |
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| 21:24.07 | lloowen | stew: Yes trying to find out where alpine files are installed. Trying to do a patch |
| 21:24.30 | Agiofws | has anyone used actionscript2.0 ? |
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| 21:25.50 | kyncani | lloowen: dpkg -L alpine |
| 21:26.07 | Lagaro | I've a question for y'all: is there any reason why CTRL-ALT-F4 should give me the keycode sequence, and not switch to a virtual console? . . . |
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| 21:27.48 | Lagaro | (in X, I mean) |
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| 21:27.56 | lloowen | kyncani : thanks done that found them |
| 21:28.21 | kyncani | np |
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| 21:28.38 | stew | lloowen: "dpkg -L alpine" would show you where they are installed |
| 21:28.38 | stuckey | Hello. I installed a program with wine and I'm trying to run it. I use the WMII windows manager. When I press ALT+P to pull up the programs menu I don't see the program I installed with wine. Can someone tell me how I can run the program please? |
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| 21:29.07 | stew | lloowen: if you want to patch though, you might want the source instead, which you could retrieve with "apt-get source alpine" (/msg dpkg source) |
| 21:29.18 | cantido | stuckey: not sure about WMII, but everywhere else they go into a wine menu folder. |
| 21:29.32 | stuckey | cantido: WMII doesn't have menus. |
| 21:29.44 | stuckey | cantido: it lists programs in /usr/bin with ALT+P |
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| 21:30.01 | avu | in every directory in your $PATH in fact |
| 21:30.09 | Lagaro | stuckey: cd to the directory that wine installed the program in (~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ etc.) and 'wine AppName.exe' |
| 21:30.18 | Lagaro | stuckey: a bit of a work-around, but it should work |
| 21:30.30 | avu | or make a script to start that application and put it in your PATH |
| 21:30.41 | stuckey | Lagaro: tried that, but the window is all screwed up when I do it like that. |
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| 21:31.08 | stuckey | Lagaro: I mean, WMII doesn't seem to be able to control the window that the program lanuches in when I do it that way. I can't resize or move the window. |
| 21:31.22 | stuckey | avu: good idea. |
| 21:31.47 | avu | sure wmii puts the window in the floating layer? |
| 21:32.06 | stuckey | avu: what's the floating layer? |
| 21:32.10 | avu | if it's there, you should be able to move it. try toggling it |
| 21:32.27 | avu | you may want to read up on the basic concepts of the WM you're using :) |
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| 21:33.37 | Lagaro | I've actually got two problems, sorry. Number one is the virtual console problem I mentioned beforehand (note that chvt does work, so the consoles are launched), and also, apt-get/aptitude keeps giving me "fopen: permission denied" errors. Thoughts, anyone? |
| 21:33.37 | stuckey | avu: I have... for example, I just selected this window and pressed ALT+M, but the program I launched in wine is still above this window. |
| 21:33.38 | avu | stuckey, http://code.suckless.org/contrib/guide/wmii-3/guide-en/guide_en/node5.html#SECTION00054000000000000000 |
| 21:33.44 | Lagaro | stuckey: is "allow WM to control windows" selected in winecfg? |
| 21:34.05 | avu | stuckey, 'alt+m' says nothing to me, I, like most wmii users have changed the keybindings to my liking. |
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| 21:35.58 | stuckey | avu: hey thanks! that worked. |
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| 21:36.37 | nsadmin | avu: is there a set of bindings present when the package is installed? |
| 21:37.03 | mib_ycp393 | hi -- I'm trying to set up an ARM cross compiler on debian (so I can compile the current version of the kernel for my pda) but all the tutorials/instructions I've found seem to be out of date. can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 21:37.16 | stuckey | avu: now how can I get it so that I can launch this program from the program menu in wmii? |
| 21:38.25 | avu | stuckey, put it in your PATH, then rehash |
| 21:38.41 | avu | nsadmin, sure |
| 21:38.43 | stuckey | avu: How do I put it in my path? it's a wine program |
| 21:39.05 | avu | stuckey, you put the script you wrote to launch it into your PATH, as I said |
| 21:39.15 | avu | stuckey, I usually use ~/bin/ for such things |
| 21:39.32 | stuckey | avu: agh okay... what do you mean you use ~/bin ? |
| 21:39.46 | stuckey | avu: I can just right a bash script? like wine path to file... ? |
| 21:40.18 | avu | stuckey, you write a script that does what you want and put it in a directory in your PATH, yes, that's what I've been saying |
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| 21:40.57 | Lagaro | stuckey: put a shbang (#!/bin/sh) and then "wine <path_to_executable>", and it should work |
| 21:40.59 | avu | stuckey, and by "I use ~/bin/ for such things" I mean "I've added ~/bin/ to my PATH and use it for such scripts and other non-systemwide stuff I like to launch" |
| 21:41.36 | wir | Hi All |
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| 21:41.39 | stuckey | avu: how do I add that to my path? |
| 21:41.44 | stuckey | avu: that's a good idea... |
| 21:42.02 | avu | stuckey, judt modify the PATH variable to your liking |
| 21:42.19 | stuckey | How do I do this? |
| 21:42.21 | nayx | export PATH=~/bin:${PATH} |
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| 21:43.12 | Lagaro | stuckey: if the ~/bin directory exists, by default it is included in the path |
| 21:43.33 | stuckey | Okay, I did the export things just now anyway |
| 21:43.36 | Lagaro | stuckey: (IIRC) |
| 21:43.44 | stuckey | Now I'll make this script and test it. |
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| 21:44.06 | avu | stuckey, remember that this new value of PATH is of course only for the shell you did that in |
| 21:44.13 | mib_vh9r9k | grumbles about web IRC clients and back buttons |
| 21:44.18 | Hohlraum | i need to try to revert to the previous linux kernel on lenny (the one prior to the security update on friday) .. how would i go about doing so? |
| 21:44.18 | nayx | Lagaro: thats not defined in the bashrc in /etc/skel |
| 21:44.31 | avu | stuckey, so you do that in a startup script of your shell or in /etc/environment |
| 21:45.15 | stuckey | avu but isn't ~/bin included by default, if it exists? |
| 21:45.44 | avu | stuckey, Lagaro just said that, maybe it is in the default bash config, I wouldn't know as I don't use bash |
| 21:45.50 | avu | just check |
| 21:46.19 | Lagaro | nayx: it is in .bash_profile, sorry |
| 21:46.32 | Lagaro | nayx: my bad, I've moved it into .bashrc ;) |
| 21:46.51 | nayx | uhm i dont even have a skel for .bash_profile |
| 21:46.59 | nayx | well yeah didnt do a fresh lenny install |
| 21:47.00 | mib_vh9r9k | I'm trying to follow the instructions on <http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers> which refer to gcc-4.1 -- is something liable to break if I use gcc-4.3 instead? |
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| 21:47.44 | stuckey | avu: I looked in .bashrc but I didn't see anything about path... |
| 21:48.01 | avu | stuckey, so? |
| 21:48.26 | avu | stuckey, why are you telling this to me? I'm not the one talking about bash startup files here, Lagaro and nayx are |
| 21:48.42 | nsadmin | maybe your path is set in .bash_profile |
| 21:48.44 | avu | stuckey, I, in fact, already told you I don't use bash and know little about its setup in Debian |
| 21:49.11 | stuckey | avu: oh sorry... then let me tell you about another problem: I got this error with my script (my script includes non-engish letters, such as ö and ü) when I tried to run it: wine: cannot find '/home/stuckey/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Langenscheidt/e-W�rterb�cher/eW_lkg.exe' |
| 21:49.18 | avu | (although a quick look shows me that at least preliminary PATH setup is done in /etc/profile..) |
| 21:49.27 | stuckey | Notice that the ö and ü are represnted as question marks... perhaps that has something to do with it? |
| 21:49.58 | avu | just be sure the script file uses the same encoding as your filesystem |
| 21:50.03 | avu | which is probably UTF-8 |
| 21:51.25 | stuckey | avu: how do I find out what the fileysstem encoding is? |
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| 21:53.10 | stuckey | avu: I added ~/bin to my /etc/profiles file, then rehashed, but the file doesn't show up in wmii program menu. |
| 21:53.35 | avu | stuckey, changes in your /etc/profile aren't magically applied to running sessions |
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| 21:54.04 | stuckey | avu: No magic? Aww geeze, I suppose I'm going to have to logout then. |
| 21:54.15 | nayx | stuckey: the path environment doesn't have to do anything with your wm's root menu imo |
| 21:54.24 | stuckey | avu: Do you know how to tell which encoding is being used on a filesystem? |
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| 21:54.34 | nayx | it just lets you execute your scripts form ~/bin everywhere in your filesystem |
| 21:54.50 | avu | nayx, you're out of context here |
| 21:54.53 | stuckey | nayx: I'm trying to add a program to my wmii's program menu... |
| 21:55.14 | avu | nayx, we're talking about the dmenu setup in wmii, not some "root menu", whatever that may be |
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| 21:55.48 | jpinx | advice please - I have a couple of domains serving only family webpages, and no mailserver requirement (I use gmail) - is it a reasonably easy job to serve it from my laptop here, and is it easy? |
| 21:56.05 | stuckey | jpinx: No, and no. |
| 21:56.13 | jpinx | :( |
| 21:56.51 | nayx | avu: ah ok sorry |
| 21:57.16 | jpinx | stuckey: I have a rented virtual server, but I under-use it so much I thought I could do it from here |
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| 21:58.06 | ma3x | why after 'xmodmap .xmodmap' it gets desynced after a while? |
| 21:58.08 | stuckey | jpinx: You could probably do it but don't expect to have it done in an afternoon if you've no experience with such thigs. Start reading. |
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| 21:58.32 | stuckey | Does anyone know how I can find out what my filesystem encoding is? |
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| 21:59.14 | nayx | stuckey: im not sure but grep NLS_DEFAULT /boot/config-`uname -r` might be it |
| 21:59.17 | jpinx | stuckey: I am running apache in my rented virtual server, and I know there'll be some port forwarding to do with my router here, what else? |
| 21:59.23 | nayx | so thats utf-8 usually |
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| 22:00.24 | stuckey | Okay, it says UTF-8, but I'm still getting an error with this script. |
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| 22:00.33 | nayx | whats your locale set to? |
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| 22:00.50 | stuckey | it exits with wine: cannot find '/home/stuckey/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Langenscheidt/e-W�rterb�cher/eW_lkg.exe' |
| 22:00.55 | stuckey | nayx: how do I find this out? |
| 22:01.09 | nayx | type locale in a terminal |
| 22:01.25 | stuckey | says UTF-8 |
| 22:01.45 | nayx | hrm |
| 22:02.03 | ma3x | why after 'xmodmap .xmodmap' it expires after a while? |
| 22:02.12 | nayx | stuckey: dont know i try to avoid umlauts at all |
| 22:02.41 | nayx | can you just rename your wörterbuch? i know thats not a fix at all |
| 22:02.58 | stuckey | No that's a shotcut, I want to find out why this isn't working. |
| 22:03.19 | avu | stuckey, well, be sure the script is actually encoded in UTF-8 |
| 22:03.41 | stuckey | avu: how would you confirm this? |
| 22:03.45 | avu | stuckey, and not, say, latin1, which is also common in germany |
| 22:03.54 | avu | stuckey, tell your editor to save it encoded in utf-8 |
| 22:04.00 | stuckey | avu: that's what I did. |
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| 22:04.42 | avu | stuckey, well, then the umlauts would show up as umlauts when you cat it (assuming that you're using an UTF-8 locale of course) |
| 22:04.55 | stuckey | okay I'll test that |
| 22:05.04 | stuckey | avu: yep, they show up. |
| 22:05.07 | avu | stuckey, also, make sure that the filename actually uses UTF-8 |
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| 22:05.21 | stuckey | avu: how do I do that? |
| 22:05.39 | avu | stuckey, again, have it shown on your terminal if that uses UTF-8.. |
| 22:05.49 | PotterT|VF | anyone help get a redhat based vpn script working on debian? I'm thinking there might not be much variation... but I'm not sure |
| 22:05.55 | stuckey | avu: yeah it shows up in the terminal |
| 22:06.07 | avu | stuckey, oh and |
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| 22:06.27 | avu | stuckey, so you have '' around the filename in the script like shown in your message? |
| 22:06.28 | abrotman | PotterT|VF: put it in a pastebin, and reask while including the URL |
| 22:06.39 | avu | stuckey, if so, is there really a backslash in the directory name? |
| 22:06.45 | stuckey | avu: I have "*" |
| 22:06.56 | avu | stuckey, huh? |
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| 22:07.56 | stuckey | avu: ah! thanks that was it. |
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| 22:07.59 | bobrox | hello |
| 22:08.15 | stuckey | avu: but unfortunately the program that is starting with wine now says it can't find data, and it closes. |
| 22:08.50 | mib_vh9r9k | hi bobrox |
| 22:08.58 | stuckey | avu: but it works fine when I go all the way into the directory with the *.exe file and run wine *.exe, but not if I do, say, wine "path/to/directory/*.exe" |
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| 22:09.18 | avu | stuckey, well, that's something different of course |
| 22:09.19 | PotterT|VF | anyone help get a redhat based vpn script working on debian? http://pastebin.ca/1374365 I have not included the file ifcfg-vpn as that contains the variables used to connect, but any suggestions on how to set this up? |
| 22:09.28 | avu | stuckey, just do in the script exactly as you do on the shell.. |
| 22:09.59 | abrotman | PotterT|VF: does it break anywhere? |
| 22:10.01 | stuckey | avu: How do I get the script to launch it from the directory? "cd /path/to/directory/"??? |
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| 22:10.30 | avu | stuckey, again, just do in the script exactly as you do on the shell.. |
| 22:10.30 | bobrox | i try to make a custom xen kernel 2.6.26 but went i download the source with apt-get source xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 and i type make menuconfig there is no xen option in menuconfig |
| 22:10.58 | bobrox | somebody can expain me, i need help plz |
| 22:10.59 | PotterT|VF | abrotman: well, does debain support /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-vpn as a reference? if not, I'm not sure where to drop the variables |
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| 22:11.12 | PotterT|VF | *debian |
| 22:11.14 | stuckey | avu: that's what I did, and it works. Thanks again! |
| 22:11.30 | abrotman | PotterT|VF: i'd guess under /etc/network/ somewhere .. there should be docs for the Debian vpn package |
| 22:11.31 | stuckey | Going to logout now and see if the program shows up in the menu. |
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| 22:27.13 | teratoma | why would i get this when trying to load a PHP page ? http://s5.tinypic.com/2rfvwi8.jpg |
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| 22:28.27 | nsadmin | teratoma probably the web server is not configured to run php pages |
| 22:29.11 | teratoma | nsadmin: i am running lenny, i installed apache and php, i have the php mod enabled, i'm not sure what else to check . there are no errors in web server log |
| 22:30.10 | aurel42 | teratoma: apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5 are both installed? |
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| 22:32.04 | nsadmin | teratoma what about the part of the config specific to the domain? |
| 22:32.28 | nsadmin | oh, nm, you're already in good hands |
| 22:33.43 | teratoma | aurel42: yes http://pastebin.com/m23e8cafb |
| 22:33.45 | mythomaniac | is there a way to parse all installed files from aptitude into a text file, and then take that file to another system and have aptitude read that text file and install those packages? |
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| 22:34.41 | teratoma | mythomaniac: aptitude logs to /var/log/aptitude |
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| 22:35.44 | mythomaniac | teratoma, wow ok, so how would one use that log(2) to have aptitude install those packages on a different system? |
| 22:35.55 | aurel42 | teratoma: did you restart apache2 after installing the PHP module? Did you modify the apache config? |
| 22:35.56 | mythomaniac | err log(s) |
| 22:36.08 | Golden|Wolf | hey, i have my sound working, works with speakertest, etc but when using it through mplay or iceweasel, it fails to work |
| 22:36.24 | aurel42 | mythomaniac: try man dpkg, look for --set-selections, --get-selections |
| 22:38.15 | Golden|Wolf | anyone has any idea? |
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| 22:39.10 | teratoma | aurel42: i have not touched the main apache config. i have restarted. my domain specific apache conf is kind of crazy : http://pastebin.com/m1f2aa0f9 |
| 22:39.10 | illikawn | anyone here use s3switch? |
| 22:40.27 | aurel42 | teratoma: I guess if the PHP module wouldn't work, the php_value statements would cause an error when starting up apache, so we can assume it's working. |
| 22:40.49 | mythomaniac | aurel42, i don't understand the --get-selections switch is the "pattern" install, purge ect.? |
| 22:41.37 | stew | mythomaniac: /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
| 22:41.40 | aurel42 | teratoma: I would comment out all the php_value and only leave those statements in that are actually different from the settings in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini |
| 22:42.22 | aurel42 | "aptitude clone" sounds interesting, thanks stew. |
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| 22:43.01 | mythomaniac | i get no pm from dpkg stew? |
| 22:43.14 | stew | !aptiude clone |
| 22:43.20 | stew | !aptitude clone |
| 22:43.20 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserve information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall><things to backup> |
| 22:44.03 | mythomaniac | stew, thank you |
| 22:44.09 | stew | you're welcome |
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| 22:45.39 | aurel42 | teratoma: can't find an obvious problem with all the php_value statements. I assume there's a file /home/vhosts/domain.com/htdocs/index.php ? |
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| 22:47.34 | aurel42 | teratoma: also, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf is present and unchanged, correct? That's the magic that tells Apache that a file called .php should be run through the PHP module. |
| 22:47.53 | aurel42 | s/called/ending in/ |
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| 22:49.21 | Golden|Wolf | hey -.- i cant get my sound working with applications it works with debian stuff like sound test etc |
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| 22:58.49 | adama1 | Hello, I'm having a problem migrating a fakeraid (Promise) set created in the BIOS, which worked in Windows and is therefore now full of data: http://pastebin.ca/1374405 |
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| 22:59.36 | adama1 | It is supposed to appear as one single drive, 4TB |
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| 23:00.11 | adama1 | but dmraid creates two 2tb drives, neither of which is usable. How could I combine them manually? |
| 23:00.16 | adb | !fakeraid |
| 23:00.16 | dpkg | A term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq> |
| 23:00.32 | aurel42 | Golden|Wolf: do the applications know which sound system or daemon you are using? |
| 23:00.44 | adama1 | yes thank you, it's too late not to use the fakeraid |
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| 23:00.51 | Golden|Wolf | i think so but let me check again |
| 23:01.35 | Golden|Wolf | how would i get iceweasel to use alsa :S |
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| 23:01.53 | maligor | iceweasel plays sounds? |
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| 23:02.06 | aurel42 | Golden|Wolf: you're probably talking about flash? |
| 23:02.20 | Golden|Wolf | yuh |
| 23:02.32 | pokerface | hey... |
| 23:03.00 | aurel42 | Golden|Wolf: I believe the current flash plugin uses alsa by default. It does on Ubuntu (which I use on the desktop). |
| 23:03.21 | pokerface | can anyone help me... my computer keeps shutting down and i dont know why. can anyone tell me which logs to look at? |
| 23:03.34 | pokerface | dmesg doesnt look like anything is wrong |
| 23:03.47 | maligor | powersupply failing maybe? |
| 23:03.57 | pokerface | the power is still on |
| 23:04.05 | pokerface | the os just fails... |
| 23:04.11 | adama1 | anyone have any tips to construct my raid set? |
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| 23:04.27 | jetscreamer | docs |
| 23:04.34 | dasTexasNoob | howdy folks |
| 23:04.45 | Golden|Wolf | ah man iceweasel also doesnt wanna play flash -.- |
| 23:05.01 | jetscreamer | !dmm |
| 23:05.01 | dpkg | it has been said that dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 23:05.03 | illikawn | Golden|Wolf www.debian-multimedia.org |
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| 23:05.45 | dasTexasNoob | I created a vfat partition using fdisk in Lenny. How can I make it show up in my Win XP? |
| 23:06.11 | illikawn | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/win_c |
| 23:06.21 | illikawn | mkdir /mnt/win_c |
| 23:06.25 | illikawn | tho |
| 23:06.40 | adama1 | dasTexasNoob: ask #windows |
| 23:06.40 | illikawn | oh windows :s |
| 23:06.52 | adama1 | drive manager probably |
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| 23:07.26 | illikawn | u know that proggy that opens when you open a warez .nfo, computer management???? look for the disk tools |
| 23:07.42 | dasTexasNoob | adama1: thnx but created it in debian so I wanted to know if I could do it from there |
| 23:07.47 | Golden|Wolf | illikawn, use apt-get debian-multimedia ? |
| 23:07.56 | dasTexasNoob | illikawn: thank you, i appreciate it |
| 23:08.18 | Golden|Wolf | nvm |
| 23:08.19 | Golden|Wolf | i see it |
| 23:08.22 | adama1 | dasTexasNoob: no. boot windoz, go to computer managememnt,disk management, should see it there |
| 23:08.40 | adama1 | you will have to assign a drive-letter I think |
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| 23:09.23 | dasTexasNoob | adama1: thank you |
| 23:09.44 | pokerface | any ideas on how to find out what is going on with my system? i'm not sure which loggs to look at. |
| 23:09.53 | adama1 | disclaimer: I do not support the use of windows |
| 23:10.44 | dasTexasNoob | adama1: thank you tho, it's my wife's desktop. she's new to linux, as m I for that matter |
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| 23:11.23 | jpinx | dasTexasNoob: if you created the partition and reboot into XP - it will show in "My Computer" |
| 23:11.36 | infomomo | hey guys, what program let's me see "Extract Here" in the menu... for .zip, .rar and .tar.gz files ??? |
| 23:12.01 | dasTexasNoob | jpinx: yeah, that didn't work |
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| 23:12.07 | dasTexasNoob | jpinx: thank you tho |
| 23:12.17 | jpinx | dasTexasNoob: then you might try making the filesystem |
| 23:12.43 | jpinx | dasTexasNoob: mkfs.vfat /path/to/vfat/partition |
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| 23:12.59 | adama1 | you will have to mkfs, and may have to like I say, set a drive letter in windoz |
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| 23:13.41 | jpinx | dasTexasNoob: windows basically is not too happy with partitions and filesystems it didn't make itself |
| 23:14.03 | BlackMagik | does anyone have mono and its compiler working with lenny? when i run smcs Test.cs it gives me http://www.paste-it.com/view/62667655 |
| 23:15.09 | Golden|Wolf | does debian allow xmms or has it renamed to something else |
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| 23:15.42 | adb | !xmms |
| 23:15.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. It has been removed from Debian (although it is still in etch), see http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms/news/20080302T105714Z.html) For alternatives, look at <xmms2>, <rhythmbox>, <amarok>, exaile, songbird, quod libet ... see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons |
| 23:15.51 | dasTexasNoob | jpinx: yeah, i'm finding that out now. I'm trying to add the partition using disk mgmt but i have to check with the #win channel. Really, thank you all |
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| 23:15.58 | scoaz | hi |
| 23:16.04 | adama1 | I have xmms but I don't remember how I got it, I think it was a pain to get |
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| 23:16.17 | scoaz | what should i backup from the system before a reinstall ? |
| 23:16.25 | scoaz | i backuped /etc |
| 23:16.37 | scoaz | to get de xrog conf and stuffs like apache |
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| 23:17.53 | maligor | there's Audacious that supports the same skin stuff as xmms |
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| 23:18.13 | dasTexasNoob | thank you folk. have a good one |
| 23:18.15 | aurel42 | scoaz: package selections, /home and /usr/local come to mind. |
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| 23:18.40 | scoaz | k thanks |
| 23:18.49 | SnoFox | Okay, I'm having a slight problem. When I mute the master volume, nothing happens unless I mute PCM and Front individually as well. |
| 23:19.02 | aurel42 | scoaz: perhaps some stuff under /var, like databases, you should know what you've used. |
| 23:19.05 | SnoFox | How exactly would I fix that? |
| 23:19.49 | scoaz | hum ok i'm gonna check in /var :) |
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| 23:21.58 | Malf | does anyone know how to make wicd use a wireless key besides key #1 in wep-shared mode? |
| 23:22.03 | alnr | i'm running a prepackaged etch taht came with xenserver. there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, doesnt that have to be there for X to work or where else could it be? |
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| 23:22.27 | dondelelcaro | alnr: it may not have X installed |
| 23:22.42 | alnr | dondelelcaro: well xfce does come up |
| 23:23.00 | alnr | in crappy res, hence my need for xorg.conf |
| 23:23.15 | dondelelcaro | if things are missing, your best bet is to do an actual install from real Debian media instead of mucking about with some random image |
| 23:23.26 | dondelelcaro | alnr: also, you probably just want to start with lenny, not etch. |
| 23:24.07 | alnr | yeah i'd rather that, this is just a virtual appliance that came with xenserver |
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| 23:25.41 | oliva | hi there ... is it possible to create an image from a text with a command line program?? |
| 23:26.57 | Tycale | Hi |
| 23:27.14 | Tycale | I've got a big problem with mysqld |
| 23:27.15 | Tycale | http://pastebin.com/d3a3a8e4d |
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| 23:28.12 | Tycale | So, dependencies errors |
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| 23:30.25 | infomomo | Does debian offer a solution Firewall, VPN and Radius all in one like PFSense ? |
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| 23:30.57 | valdyn | infomomo: no |
| 23:31.27 | infomomo | valdyn: can i easily run VPN and Radius on Debian ? |
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| 23:32.07 | infomomo | valdyn: i bascially need Active Directory communications between sites to be VPN'd |
| 23:32.13 | valdyn | infomomo: youd have to aptitude install xtradius shorewall whatever |
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| 23:32.35 | infomomo | valdyn: i was looking at OpenVPN and FreeRADIUS |
| 23:33.06 | valdyn | infomomo: thats in debian too |
| 23:33.28 | infomomo | valdyn: thnaks brother |
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| 23:34.59 | Akiyuki | I am in a text only enviironment, could someone point me at a URL for installing debian over PXE TFTPD |
| 23:35.10 | valdyn | !ig |
| 23:35.10 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r7) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual. <installer firmware> |
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| 23:36.24 | bobrox | hello there |
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| 23:37.07 | Akiyuki | valdyn, not seeing PXE |
| 23:37.37 | chasing`Sol | where could i find lenny's hcl? |
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| 23:37.44 | Golden|Wolf | does anyone how sigmatel stac 92xx is with debian? (i heard the mic doesnt work) |
| 23:37.46 | valdyn | Akiyuki: do i need to use / for you? |
| 23:37.57 | Akiyuki | valdyn, i already did that.. |
| 23:38.10 | bobrox | someone can explain me why when i do apt-get source xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 i have the source of linux-2.6-2.6.26 and not xen ? |
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| 23:39.18 | ranix | PXE meaning "Preboot Execution Environment" ? |
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| 23:39.53 | valdyn | Akiyuki: section 2.4 about "installation media" retrieval and 4.5 about network install |
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| 23:47.07 | revertTS | dondelelcaro: thanks; I wasn't looking to use it again, just curious what happened to it :) |
| 23:47.11 | revertTS | I'll check out ferm |
| 23:48.08 | valdyn | now is there any firewall tool except shorewall that does some tc too? |
| 23:48.25 | infomomo | valdyn: tc? |
| 23:48.59 | valdyn | infomomo: man tc |
| 23:49.11 | valdyn | infomomo: traffic shaping in other words |
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| 23:49.32 | infomomo | valdyn: traffic control? have you looked into PFSense |
| 23:49.48 | valdyn | infomomo: not in debian |
| 23:50.38 | revertTS | PFSense is a good setup; I've been real happy with it |
| 23:50.53 | valdyn | oh well i cant change distro |
| 23:51.46 | dondelelcaro | valdyn: they're kind of orthogonal; wondershaper sort of works |
| 23:51.58 | infomomo | revertTS: are you running it on FreeBSD, have you tried using it as VPN and Radius server ? |
| 23:52.11 | valdyn | dondelelcaro: i do use shorewall for a more complex setup |
| 23:52.14 | valdyn | dondelelcaro: it works |
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| 23:52.38 | valdyn | dondelelcaro: id just be looking for something that has better integrated monitoring capabilities |
| 23:52.49 | valdyn | dondelelcaro: and/or nicer configuration |
| 23:52.59 | Akiyuki | valdyn, have you ever done a pxe/tftp install? |
| 23:53.08 | valdyn | Akiyuki: yea |
| 23:53.28 | valdyn | Akiyuki: or was that bootp what i did ? i dont know, i installed some cdromless thinkpad |
| 23:53.30 | Akiyuki | valdyn, cool, it is going pretty good so far.. |
| 23:54.06 | valdyn | Akiyuki: where or why are you stuck? |
| 23:54.16 | Akiyuki | valdyn, im not stuck yet ;) |
| 23:54.28 | valdyn | Akiyuki: i find it the best install method overall |
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| 23:54.42 | valdyn | Akiyuki: i just hardly ever get to do fresh installs |
| 23:54.52 | Akiyuki | valdyn, i attempted to PXE boot a ubuntuu earlier, and it couldnt understand that it was already assigned IP through dhcp... lol |
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| 23:55.32 | cavallacciocatti | ciao |
| 23:55.34 | cavallacciocatti | !List |
| 23:55.34 | dpkg | cavallacciocatti: VATTENE VIA |
| 23:55.37 | aixenv | hey i need to recover root password debian etch, i tried single user mode but its asking for root password in maintenance which i dont have |
| 23:55.45 | valdyn | !ifrp |
| 23:55.45 | dpkg | 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO (e.g. pre-sarge): 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
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| 23:55.57 | revertTS | infomomo: yeah, I'm running it on FreeBSD; I've been meaning to get around to setting up a VPN, but haven't yet |
| 23:55.58 | adama1 | damn italians |
| 23:55.59 | aixenv | it wont give me a prompt |
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| 23:56.16 | valdyn | aixenv: read what dpkg said |
| 23:56.22 | aixenv | im doing that |
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| 23:56.39 | Akiyuki | valdyn, sucked because, i b attled w/ it for about 40 minutes before i got pissed and had to drink a mt dew |
| 23:57.29 | aixenv | weird, one sec |
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| 23:58.16 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 23:58.44 | Fox_1_ | people can anyone help me with gimp(photoshop) work? |
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| 23:59.44 | zzattack2 | can I easily start a script from my shell over ssh, and have the script continue running when I disconnect |
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| 23:59.54 | adama1 | zzattack2: use screen |
