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| 00:00.11 | rhineheart_m | whoever qualifies.. let me hear from you.. lol ;) |
| 00:00.11 | WDC | sepult: I basically have all that |
| 00:00.21 | nsadmin | is only a gu |
| 00:00.29 | WDC | nsadmin: rofl |
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| 00:00.54 | sepult | WDC: what's that gateway.2wire thing there ? |
| 00:01.06 | sepult | WDC: is that your localdomain ? |
| 00:01.12 | WDC | sepult: from what I understand, yes |
| 00:01.20 | WDC | sepult: it's what the router uses, i don't know |
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| 00:01.43 | sepult | and is 76-240-bla your hostname ? |
| 00:02.14 | WDC | sepult: yes |
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| 00:02.27 | jonsmith1982 | how can i get tcpserver to close connections after so long? or inactivity? |
| 00:02.35 | WDC | sepult: Well, I'm not sure. It's what as my CLI prompt |
| 00:02.41 | sepult | WDC: i get confused now by that gateway |
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| 00:03.00 | sepult | WDC: horrible names |
| 00:03.05 | sepult | lol |
| 00:03.07 | sepult | so long |
| 00:03.08 | WDC | sepult: as do I. I had a CentOS server (I was changing to Debian) and that's what it always was |
| 00:03.17 | WDC | hostname |
| 00:04.11 | sepult | WDC: put your router's address on a newline and append your hostname to it |
| 00:04.21 | sepult | WDC: please do it |
| 00:04.47 | sepult | WDC: the routers address, don't you confuse with dns or so |
| 00:05.08 | WDC | sepult: hold up, like this? 192.168.1.254 (router) <long hostname> |
| 00:05.09 | WDC | right? |
| 00:05.15 | sepult | yes |
| 00:05.17 | WDC | kk |
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| 00:05.44 | sepult | WDC: you could look at /etc/hostname or /etc/conf.d/hostname or so |
| 00:05.52 | WDC | done |
| 00:05.54 | sepult | WDC: if you are unsure which is which |
| 00:06.11 | sepult | WDC: ok now try it again with your browser |
| 00:06.21 | WDC | hmm. My hostname is simply 76-240-25-136 |
| 00:06.22 | WDC | my bad |
| 00:06.42 | WDC | Either way, doesn't work |
| 00:06.46 | WDC | still network unreachable |
| 00:06.54 | WDC | Still pings though |
| 00:07.00 | WDC | (pinging the server) |
| 00:07.14 | Gm4n | I'm having some issues with GNU's screen (and yes, I've RTFMed). How do I send a command to a new window in a detached screen? |
| 00:07.15 | sepult | WDC: check now your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 00:07.48 | WDC | sepult: nothing has changed, I still have the dns-nameservers line |
| 00:08.21 | sepult | WDC: not /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/original i mean /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:08.28 | WDC | sepult: I know |
| 00:08.40 | WDC | it has auth lo |
| 00:08.41 | WDC | etc |
| 00:08.47 | WDC | and I added a dns-nameservers line |
| 00:08.50 | WDC | Get rid of that? |
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| 00:09.16 | sepult | WDC: auto lo eth0, allow-hotplug eth0, iface lo inet loopback, iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 00:09.21 | klaz168 | can sum1 check my xorg log? it crashed twice and i cant figure out why. http://rafb.net/p/Od2KTA94.html |
| 00:09.21 | sepult | WDC: that's what i have |
| 00:09.47 | nsadmin | do you have an eth0 in ifconfig -a? |
| 00:09.55 | sepult | WDC: get rid of the dns-nameservers line |
| 00:09.59 | WDC | sepult: allow-hotplug eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp, dns-nameservers 68.94..... |
| 00:10.01 | WDC | sepult: kk |
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| 00:10.23 | WDC | nsadmin: yes, it has an interrupt:18 and RX and TX errors |
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| 00:10.34 | nsadmin | did you try: ifup eth0 |
| 00:10.54 | WDC | nsadmin: already configured |
| 00:11.14 | nsadmin | are you using that machine to talk here? |
| 00:11.20 | WDC | nsadmin: not possible |
| 00:11.40 | nsadmin | ok, so try ifdown eth0 |
| 00:11.45 | nsadmin | then ifup eth0 |
| 00:11.59 | sepult | WDC: is the bios of that machine with interrupt-catch 19 or so ? |
| 00:12.20 | sepult | WDC: did you enable option-roms ? |
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| 00:12.35 | WDC | sepult: hold |
| 00:12.42 | nsadmin | why not possible btw? |
| 00:12.55 | WDC | nsadmin: the server (machine in question) has 0 internet right now |
| 00:13.01 | sepult | WDC: just revert to defaults if in trouble |
| 00:13.30 | WDC | No DHCPOFFERS found |
| 00:13.32 | WDC | sleeping |
| 00:13.39 | sepult | WDC: ah ok |
| 00:13.42 | sepult | WDC: then reboot |
| 00:13.47 | WDC | kk |
| 00:13.53 | sepult | WDC: wait |
| 00:13.53 | nsadmin | is the wire connected? :) |
| 00:13.58 | WDC | nsadmin: /me checks |
| 00:14.00 | sepult | WDC: and reset your router |
| 00:14.08 | sepult | WDC: unplug replug it |
| 00:14.15 | nsadmin | are you using that router to talk here? |
| 00:14.20 | nsadmin | if so... |
| 00:14.23 | nsadmin | it's working :) |
| 00:15.08 | sepult | WDC: seems all is set up correct just the router has to be restarted |
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| 00:15.26 | sepult | WDC: or the hole slew of your services which depend on it |
| 00:15.35 | WDC | nsadmin: yes, connected, and yes that router |
| 00:15.37 | sepult | WDC: that's where might be blocking it |
| 00:15.40 | WDC | hello |
| 00:16.07 | nsadmin | so if you reset that router, you'll temporarily lose your connection to this irc room |
| 00:16.12 | sepult | WDC: can't you restart it ? |
| 00:16.34 | sepult | WDC: then restart your corresponding dhcp client |
| 00:16.36 | sepult | service |
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| 00:16.46 | WDC_ | Sorry about that |
| 00:16.49 | WDC_ | router did something |
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| 00:17.17 | WDC_ | sepult: you there? |
| 00:17.22 | sepult | WDC: yes |
| 00:17.30 | WDC_ | sepult: so a ping of yahoo' |
| 00:17.44 | WDC_ | s IP, rsults in host unreachable, but it attempts to ping |
| 00:17.53 | mib_4r127trn | http://www.meine-nackte-ex.net/?uid=89015 |
| 00:18.04 | sepult | WDC: what's the contents of /etc/networks ? |
| 00:18.20 | rhineheart_m | WDC, how about restarting the machine ;) |
| 00:18.23 | sepult | WDC: do you miss the 255.255.255.0 subnet ? |
| 00:18.36 | sepult | or 169.255.0.0 ? |
| 00:18.36 | WDC_ | rhineheart_m: I just did |
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| 00:18.56 | Nach | What's the quick one line for install nvidia video drivers? |
| 00:19.05 | WDC_ | sepult: default 0.0.0.0, loopback 127.0.0.1, link-local 169.254.0.0 |
| 00:19.06 | sepult | !nvidia |
| 00:19.07 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 00:19.31 | sepult | WDC: it's ok, now check your routing table |
| 00:19.43 | Theoden | I'm trying to build a kernel in Lenny - and every attempt fails with this error => http://pastebin.com/m1a0370e5 |
| 00:19.48 | sepult | WDC: route -v or so |
| 00:19.51 | Theoden | Can someone help me please? |
| 00:19.57 | Nach | !nvidia pre-built |
| 00:19.57 | dpkg | aptitude install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32). |
| 00:20.13 | WDC_ | sepult: ..... |
| 00:20.14 | Nach | !nvidia nvidia m-a |
| 00:20.24 | Nach | sepult: thanks |
| 00:20.29 | WDC_ | sepult: I apologize. I got it |
| 00:21.01 | Nach | !nvidia m-a |
| 00:21.02 | dpkg | The short version: aptitude install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. For instructions that should work, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
| 00:21.19 | project2501a | !girlfriend |
| 00:21.38 | sepult | lol |
| 00:21.46 | sepult | !pizza |
| 00:21.46 | project2501a | right. this is #debian. dpkg knows nothing about that |
| 00:21.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, pizza is the prime geek fuel supply, if it is greasy. or a functional language for the Java virtual machine or at http://www.math.luc.edu/pizza/, or at http://www.hallopizza.de |
| 00:21.56 | WDC_ | sepult: 76.240....., *, 255.255.252.0, U, 0, 0, 0, eht0........... default, 76.240....., 0.0.0.0, UG, 0, 0, 0, eth0 |
| 00:22.07 | project2501a | apt-get install life |
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| 00:22.59 | khaije1 | j0 |
| 00:23.14 | sepult | WDC: 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 00:23.18 | sepult | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 |
| 00:23.20 | sepult | default netconnect.box 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 00:23.22 | sepult | uuuppss |
| 00:23.23 | rhineheart_m | WDC_, did you use the same box before? was it working? |
| 00:23.24 | sepult | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 00:23.27 | sepult | link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 |
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| 00:23.29 | sepult | default netconnect.box 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 00:23.33 | WDC_ | rhineheart_m: same machine, different OS |
| 00:23.39 | WDC_ | rhineheart_m: difference was it worked |
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| 00:23.52 | WDC_ | sepult: what's that |
| 00:23.53 | sepult | WDC: your subnet seems a little weird |
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| 00:24.05 | WDC_ | sepult: indeed |
| 00:24.12 | Theoden | Can someone help me with my build error? |
| 00:24.21 | sepult | WDC: that way it won't reach it |
| 00:24.28 | khaije1 | is there a dns service that permits hostname -> ip:port resolutions, as opposed to regular hostname -> ip ? |
| 00:24.44 | rhineheart_m | WDC_, try to make it dhcp first.. then reboot.. if it works.. then that's the time you have to make it static.. let's see.. |
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| 00:25.04 | khaije1 | iow is dns capable of nat'ing at all? |
| 00:25.28 | WDC_ | rhineheart_m: I don't understand what to do |
| 00:25.48 | WDC_ | sepult: so how do I change the subnet? the router is reporting the normal one |
| 00:25.48 | alex__ | hi! I'm trying to use psb drivers for a intel GMA500, but I can't do it work in debian, any suggestion? good howto or something similar? I've seen a lot of tutorials for ubuntu, but nothing to debian |
| 00:25.55 | Theoden | Hello? |
| 00:26.03 | WDC_ | Theoden: what build error |
| 00:26.08 | nsadmin | wait a sec... you have a static /24 subnet?? |
| 00:26.09 | Theoden | I'm trying to build a kernel in Lenny - and every attempt fails with this error => http://pastebin.com/m1a0370e5 |
| 00:26.11 | sepult | WDC: it would be better if you restarted, reset your bios, reset your router, then reboot again, then tell us |
| 00:26.30 | WDC_ | nsadmin: I wish. no it's the 255.255.255.0 |
| 00:26.37 | sepult | WDC: we can't dissect the problem be hardware or software |
| 00:26.52 | WDC_ | sepult: no problem. You understand what happens when I first startup? |
| 00:26.54 | nsadmin | that's the mask on what address? |
| 00:26.54 | sepult | WDC: there is a hardware issue though |
| 00:27.03 | WDC_ | It is online for 15 seconds, then not |
| 00:27.13 | WDC_ | Subnet Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 00:27.15 | WDC_ | From the router |
| 00:27.21 | Theoden | WDC: http://pastebin.com/m1a0370e5 |
| 00:27.53 | rhineheart_m | WDC_, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:28.02 | nsadmin | so the one address you have is on a /24 |
| 00:28.31 | WDC_ | Theoden: apt-get install zlibc |
| 00:28.35 | WDC_ | nsadmin: I have no idea |
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| 00:29.06 | nsadmin | lguest.c:34:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:29.10 | project2501a | so debian finally reached Lenin |
| 00:29.16 | sepult | WDC: it's a timeout issue oh my god.... |
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| 00:29.22 | sepult | WDC: it get's worse |
| 00:29.30 | sepult | lol |
| 00:29.36 | khaije1 | lenin? |
| 00:29.58 | Theoden | WDC: thx |
| 00:30.14 | WDC_ | sepult: http://pastebin.ca/1375280 |
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| 00:30.39 | nsadmin | so if zlib.h is missing, presumably the other parts of that lib are also missing... so install zlib and its compiletime part |
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| 00:31.02 | WDC | there we go |
| 00:31.07 | sepult | WDC: put eth0 on auto too |
| 00:31.24 | WDC | sepult: done |
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| 00:33.08 | sepult | WDC: pay attention to the domain in /etc/hosts |
| 00:33.47 | WDC | sepult: no domain... |
| 00:33.47 | sepult | WDC: look for anything that might be wrong in your configuration files |
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| 00:34.18 | WDC | sepult: I don't know what to look for |
| 00:34.20 | sepult | WDC: put a localhost.localdomain in front of gateway.2wire there |
| 00:34.42 | WDC | sepult: done |
| 00:35.04 | sepult | WDC: is that gateway2.wire mandatory ? |
| 00:35.11 | sepult | WDC: or what is it ? |
| 00:35.13 | WDC | sepult: It's not my current ostname |
| 00:35.21 | WDC | sepult: I don't know why it's there, tbh |
| 00:35.52 | sepult | WDC: if unsure make a backup of that file, then put that gateway.2wire away or off |
| 00:36.25 | WDC | sepult: It's gone |
| 00:36.31 | sepult | WDC: gone ? |
| 00:36.34 | nsadmin | it's not gateway.2wire.com? |
| 00:36.36 | WDC | all this while ping (yahoo IP) gives unreachable |
| 00:36.41 | WDC | nsadmin: not the hostname |
| 00:37.01 | sepult | WDC: i hope you weren't dynamic dnsing |
| 00:37.02 | WDC | nsadmin: it's just 76-240-25-136. (NOT dots. It's not an IP address) |
| 00:37.09 | WDC | sepult: No |
| 00:37.11 | sepult | WDC: like from dyndns or so |
| 00:37.16 | WDC | sepult: no |
| 00:37.49 | sepult | WDC: can you now ping anything? |
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| 00:37.58 | WDC | still pings |
| 00:38.08 | sepult | WDC: pings ? or not ? |
| 00:38.12 | WDC | please try yourself though, as I'm on the same router |
| 00:38.22 | WDC | my laptop can ping the server using 76.240... |
| 00:38.37 | sepult | WDC: ping means the wire's are ok |
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| 00:38.48 | WDC | sepult: Can you ping it? |
| 00:38.56 | nsadmin | and networking is otherwise up |
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| 00:39.05 | sepult | WDC: what the whole ip ? |
| 00:39.12 | sepult | WDC: +s |
| 00:39.14 | lore17 | Hi, im having a problem with my network connection in lenny after a fresh install. It works fine immediately after boot but then drops 30-60 seconds after boot. Afterward it cant seem to find the router when i run dhclient |
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| 00:39.22 | WDC | 76.240.25.136 |
| 00:39.34 | WDC | lore17: I am having the exact same problem |
| 00:39.41 | WDC | lore17: I mean, omg exactly |
| 00:39.52 | lore17 | hehe |
| 00:40.01 | WDC | I was just working with sepult to get it fixed |
| 00:40.12 | WDC | the difference probably is, is that I'm running a server |
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| 00:40.14 | rhineheart_m | WDC, I can ping it :) |
| 00:40.14 | sepult | WDC: yes i can ping it, Ã0% packet loss |
| 00:40.25 | WDC | rhineheart_m: sepult: very good. thanks |
| 00:40.32 | nsadmin | lore17: this is a wired net? |
| 00:40.37 | lore17 | yes |
| 00:40.53 | nsadmin | ok, ifconfig -a shows some eths? |
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| 00:41.03 | lore17 | yes |
| 00:41.10 | nsadmin | what are thier names? |
| 00:41.11 | Theoden | WDC: I installed zlibc - same error. |
| 00:41.24 | nsadmin | you also need the -dev part |
| 00:41.29 | WDC | Theoden: Then, you need -dev |
| 00:41.31 | WDC | lol |
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| 00:42.04 | lore17 | after boot it says "eth0: setting full-duplex based on MII#1 of partner capability of 41el" i dont think it used to do that |
| 00:42.15 | sepult | WDC: what does ifconfig -a tell you ? |
| 00:42.23 | sepult | WDC: put that in pastebin |
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| 00:42.28 | sepult | WDC: and show us |
| 00:42.37 | lore17 | eth0 and lo |
| 00:42.39 | Theoden | WDC: You mean zlibc-dev? |
| 00:42.45 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 00:42.58 | WDC | sepult: No c&p capability. I get errrors in RX and TX packets, and toward the bottom, "Interrupt:18 Base address:0xe800" |
| 00:43.03 | WDC | Theoden: yes sir |
| 00:43.03 | lore17 | and it has an inet addr |
| 00:43.09 | Theoden | WDC: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "zlibc-dev" |
| 00:43.10 | lore17 | k |
| 00:43.32 | sepult | WDC: did you revert your bios to defaults before boot ? |
| 00:43.33 | johni | hello everybody; have a question about ext3 (or any filesystem for that matter), is possible to cache in memory contents of files transparently? for example on a system with lots of memory I want to speed up reads by having some contents cached in memory |
| 00:43.35 | WDC | Theoden: zlib1g-dev, sorry |
| 00:43.41 | WDC | sepult: BIOS? |
| 00:43.44 | WDC | sepult: why BIOS? |
| 00:43.49 | WDC | restarts |
| 00:44.05 | wm4 | johni: the OS does that automatically |
| 00:44.40 | nsadmin | lore17 what happens when you ifdown eth0 |
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| 00:46.02 | WDC | sepult: How do I reset the BIOS? |
| 00:46.03 | johni | wm4, is there a way to configure, fine-tune those settings? I would like to enable more memory caching on a system |
| 00:46.03 | lore17 | it dhcpreleases |
| 00:46.17 | nsadmin | ok, and when you ifup eth0? |
| 00:46.48 | lore17 | sorry i cant pastebin very well because no internet connection on that comp |
| 00:47.00 | WDC | lore17: It's scary how similar our problems are |
| 00:47.15 | nsadmin | no problem, give me an idea what happened |
| 00:47.27 | lore17 | when i ifup it does DHCPDISCOVER and keeps trying |
| 00:47.33 | WDC | sepult: help plz |
| 00:47.41 | johni | I am not sure if memory caching would be controlled by the kernel or the actual filesystem implementation? |
| 00:47.43 | sepult | WDC: some special key like ESC, BACKSPACE, DEL, ENTF, F2, F4, F8: you have to press one of these on boot phase...it depends....on your hardware |
| 00:47.46 | lore17 | no working leases in persistant database |
| 00:47.54 | WDC | sepult: I am in setup |
| 00:47.58 | nsadmin | ok... |
| 00:48.00 | WDC | but I don't know how to reset |
| 00:48.05 | WDC | nsadmin: I have same |
| 00:48.07 | sepult | WDC: ok then load defaults and save and restart |
| 00:48.48 | WDC | sepult: no option too |
| 00:48.50 | WDC | to* |
| 00:49.02 | sepult | there is a menu system ? |
| 00:49.07 | sepult | WDC: ? |
| 00:49.11 | WDC | sepult: with system time and such |
| 00:49.12 | nsadmin | lore17: ok, so you have an eth cable to that computer and the other end is connected to? |
| 00:49.14 | WDC | yes |
| 00:49.34 | sepult | WDC: system time is on first page, you have to switch to the other pages |
| 00:49.39 | WDC | sepult: no other pages |
| 00:49.45 | WDC | sepult: It's an old DELL box |
| 00:49.46 | sepult | WDC: or other tabs |
| 00:49.50 | WDC | sepult: none |
| 00:49.57 | Nikola-Debian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.11 | WDC | Nikola-Debian: for home? I would reccomend Ubuntu, a Debian derriv. |
| 00:50.12 | sepult | WDC: ok then tell us what is listed |
| 00:50.16 | nsadmin | does your home like debian? |
| 00:50.28 | lore17 | netgear router, that only shows the desktop as attached immediately after boot |
| 00:50.33 | WDC | sepult: nothing with defaults. Things like boot order |
| 00:50.35 | rhineheart_m | nsadmin, lolzz... nice response |
| 00:50.39 | Nikola-Debian | Well, i only need it to play some Java games and try to program some stuff... |
| 00:51.00 | nsadmin | sure, it's good for that |
| 00:51.01 | WDC | Nikola-Debian: Ubuntu would do ya |
| 00:51.12 | WDC | Nikola-Debian: Ubuntu is a little easier. But both would be fine |
| 00:51.13 | sepult | WDC: ok then let that stuff be, just pull all energy away from router and your pc, for about 10 seconds |
| 00:51.18 | sepult | WDC: unwire it |
| 00:51.24 | WDC | sepult: Router? |
| 00:51.27 | rhineheart_m | the better is.. does your home look like debian :) |
| 00:51.36 | Nikola-Debian | I tried Ubuntu, but i had problems with it, i couldn't get Java to work, then i lost sound -.- |
| 00:51.43 | WDC | Nikola-Debian: :( |
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| 00:52.04 | sepult | WDC: WDC: if there is a switch (electrical) |
| 00:52.12 | nsadmin | lore17 and how is the netgear connected? |
| 00:52.16 | WDC | sepult: server off and unplugged |
| 00:52.26 | WDC | sepult: Does the router HAVE to be unhooked? |
| 00:52.33 | alex__ | how can i remove swfdec and install flashplayer? when I try to delete swfdec, aptitude tries to delete all the gnome |
| 00:52.36 | WDC | sepult: That would take down the house as well |
| 00:52.53 | sepult | WDC: ok then now rewire it and your pc again and put then on charge, then boot |
| 00:52.56 | nsadmin | all your gnome are belong to us! |
| 00:52.56 | lore17 | nsadmin, cable connected to modem, connected to router, ethernet from router to the computer |
| 00:52.58 | Nikola-Debian | Is install in Debian graphical? |
| 00:53.04 | WDC | nsadmin: gnome = ewww |
| 00:53.06 | WDC | XFCE FTW |
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| 00:53.25 | Nikola-Debian | Or is the install Text-based? |
| 00:53.32 | WDC | Nikola-Debian: it has both |
| 00:53.41 | nsadmin | lore17 so this is cable modem? |
| 00:53.43 | Nikola-Debian | oh lol |
| 00:53.45 | lore17 | yes |
| 00:53.57 | WDC | sepult: coming back on |
| 00:54.07 | nsadmin | and it's active? |
| 00:54.25 | nsadmin | all the lights are on and it looks normal? |
| 00:54.34 | nsadmin | also you must be talking through it now, yes? |
| 00:54.37 | lore17 | yes, im on the internet now through the router on another comp |
| 00:54.53 | rhineheart_m | Nikola-Debian, if this is your reason to resolving to debian from ubuntu "i couldn't get Java to work, then i lost sound" you better let it to work in ubuntu otherwise debian will give you headache.. :) |
| 00:55.03 | lore17 | and it shows the cable to the computer is connected |
| 00:55.08 | WDC | sepult: and we're back |
| 00:55.13 | WDC | sepult: SAMMMMME error |
| 00:55.39 | sepult | WDC: sorry i give up |
| 00:55.48 | nsadmin | WDC: what's your connection to the net? |
| 00:56.00 | WDC | nsadmin: ATT U-Verse. |
| 00:56.06 | WDC | nsadmin: sorta like cable |
| 00:56.09 | WDC | sepult: Sorry to bother :( |
| 00:56.13 | nsadmin | which is not dsl? |
| 00:56.16 | WDC | sepult: I guess reinstalling might help... |
| 00:56.21 | WDC | nsadmin: doesn't come over phone |
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| 00:56.41 | sepult | WDC: no problem, but....it's something else not being there |
| 00:56.50 | WDC | sepult: So I guess a reinstall would do it |
| 00:57.00 | WDC | sepult: Damn. I've done that three times trying to isntall this server |
| 00:57.01 | sepult | WDC: reinstall is a good option |
| 00:57.29 | sepult | WDC: it could be that your drive is corrupt |
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| 00:57.31 | lore17 | WDC, thats exactly my position lol, sound didnt work last time |
| 00:57.40 | nsadmin | while I don't have a solution, I'm thinking reinstalling is not going to help |
| 00:57.40 | WDC | lore17: haha |
| 00:57.44 | Arrowmaster | u-verse is vdsl |
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| 00:57.52 | Nikola-Debian | I had some troubles when installing .deb in Ubuntu, is Ubuntu losing it's support of .deb? |
| 00:57.58 | nsadmin | very dsl? |
| 00:58.03 | xand | Nikola-Debian: #ubuntu |
| 00:58.10 | WDC | nsadmin: Well, my last install (SAMMMME debian) was online, but I had terrible problems with apache2 |
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| 00:58.17 | lore17 | Nikola-Debian, no |
| 00:58.18 | WDC | is backing up server files AGAIN |
| 00:58.23 | Nikola-Debian | oh lol, sorry |
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| 00:58.41 | sepult | WDC: check your drive too |
| 00:58.50 | Arrowmaster | Very High Speed Digital Subscriber Line |
| 00:58.58 | sepult | WDC: what version of debian are you on that machine ? |
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| 00:59.04 | Arrowmaster | i cant believe they named it that.... |
| 00:59.08 | WDC | sepult: lenny |
| 00:59.11 | lore17 | nsadmin, could it have to do with the full duplex thing i mentioned earlier? |
| 00:59.14 | nsadmin | WDC: so I'm curious whether etch would work on it, just the base |
| 00:59.23 | sepult | WDC: lenny is a sane option, and what kernel ? |
| 00:59.32 | nsadmin | lore17 vaguely possible |
| 00:59.50 | WDC | nsadmin: 2.6.26-1 |
| 00:59.53 | rhineheart_m | sepult, you're so nice! blessings will come to those who have open-hands in helping others.. I appreciate your effort ;) Good luck :) |
| 00:59.59 | lore17 | nsadmin, how would i switch that or turn that off? |
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| 01:00.36 | nsadmin | WDC if you were to install just the base of etch to test, we could rule out an awful lot of things if it works |
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| 01:00.52 | WDC | nsadmin: I don't have time for that |
| 01:01.02 | WDC | nsadmin: this is my third lenny install, ALLLLLLLL with different problems |
| 01:01.06 | nsadmin | bios, machine, the net is already ruled out since other machines work |
| 01:01.13 | WDC | I haven't changed anything |
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| 01:01.22 | WDC | same config options. It was a netinst |
| 01:01.45 | lore17 | i used a netinst also, but i could try installing etch |
| 01:02.02 | WDC | doesn't have blank CDs, time to download, install..... |
| 01:02.10 | sepult | WDC: don't you use netinst, if you can bootstrap |
| 01:02.24 | WDC | sepult: what? |
| 01:02.43 | nsadmin | just looking to find out if you can get the network going, hopefully you don't have to install a buncha crap you'll be blowing away anyway |
| 01:03.12 | WDC | For the record, the internet worked for the first 5 minutes on this install originally. THen NOTHING worked |
| 01:03.58 | sepult | WDC: if you have a usb stick or so, i would just start with a knoppix or kanotix cd and debootstrap a clean lenny on your usb stick or your machine |
| 01:04.08 | WDC | sepult: I have no idea how |
| 01:04.12 | WDC | is very frustrated |
| 01:04.27 | WDC | my servr has been down for a day and a half, and I was upgrading from a heavy CentOS 5 to Debian |
| 01:04.28 | WDC | BADDD Idea |
| 01:04.34 | rhineheart_m | WDC, don't have spare NIC to use instead? just a thought |
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| 01:04.42 | WDC | rhineheart_m: sorry |
| 01:04.49 | WDC | It's an old DEC_Tulip based |
| 01:06.17 | sepult | WDC: it's easy, once you in linux debootstrap --arch i386 (for example) --components=main,contrib,non-free --include=bla<for your network modules>, linux-image-bla / http://ftp.debian.org (before you boot your /dev/sda# or /dev/hda# bla thing to /) |
| 01:06.28 | WDC | is lost |
| 01:07.06 | sepult | WDC: you don't have to say --arch if you don't know |
| 01:07.23 | WDC | I know it's i386 |
| 01:07.24 | rhineheart_m | WDC, I guess you spent already enough time here looking for solution...if I were you.. I would reinstall lenny and would try if it works in its default state.. without touching anything...trying to ping to the outside for 10 mins if it losses its connection.. |
| 01:07.26 | WDC | I just don't know |
| 01:07.36 | WDC | rhineheart_m: That's what I plan |
| 01:07.38 | WDC | backup just finished |
| 01:07.49 | WDC | Here we go again |
| 01:07.58 | WDC | is also very frutrated with a NNTP error |
| 01:08.11 | WDC | If yall have time |
| 01:08.27 | Nikola-Debian | Will that new fancy thing called "time slider" that can be found in openSOLARIS come to other Linux ports? |
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| 01:08.45 | felix_da_catz | OpenSolaris is not a linux port |
| 01:08.46 | rhineheart_m | WDC, better look for something to coold down your head... :) |
| 01:08.58 | WDC | rhineheart_m: haha |
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| 01:09.10 | WDC | Anyone know what 441 Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter) |
| 01:09.10 | WDC | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.17 | rhineheart_m | WDC, and be inspired again... you're taking another journey of challenges later :) |
| 01:09.21 | Nikola-Debian | oh right lol, i mean that function called "time slider" only? |
| 01:09.23 | null | Question: Where can I go read up on-the-fly (live) kernel upgrades? (without rebooting) |
| 01:09.31 | WDC | haha |
| 01:09.38 | lore17 | rhineheart_m, does that mean re-installing is probably my best bet also? |
| 01:10.11 | sepult | actually a lot of things can go wrong at the beginning |
| 01:10.29 | sepult | reinstall is just a measure |
| 01:10.38 | WDC | heh |
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| 01:10.53 | WDC | 441 Posting Failed (Rejected by POST filter). Anyone know how to fix that? (NNTP server error) |
| 01:10.59 | lore17 | well sound wasnt working for my last install and works now, but network doesnt |
| 01:11.04 | WDC | I did |
| 01:11.06 | sepult | it's not protecting you from making the same errors again |
| 01:11.08 | WDC | sorry disregard |
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| 01:11.36 | luckylucy | can anyone help me to setup a raid5 array with lenny, i am at the install screen, partitioning method of the install, i don't want to go on without knowing what i need to do. a guide would be good if anyone knows of one? |
| 01:11.39 | Nikola-Debian | lore17: bad luck lol |
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| 01:18.07 | veritos | Ubuntu has metapackages ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard that pull in the base system; what would the equivalent packages be named for Debian? |
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| 01:18.16 | veritos | (If any, of course) |
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| 01:19.48 | rhineheart_m | WDC, same error? |
| 01:19.53 | Theoden | WDC: Thanks for your help - in new kernel now. |
| 01:20.06 | Theoden | Linux Curmudgeon 2.6.29-theo.1 #1 SMP Sat Mar 28 13:11:01 PDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:20.17 | WDC | Theoden: Enjoy |
| 01:20.19 | WDC | rhineheart_m: installing |
| 01:20.24 | nsadmin | does it work? |
| 01:20.25 | simonrvn | veritos: there aren't any. it used to be that everything in 'base' was it, but that's not so true anymore. d-i handles it better / in a different way. |
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| 01:20.41 | lore17 | which kernal are you trying? |
| 01:20.47 | simonrvn | !kernal |
| 01:20.48 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
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| 01:21.05 | simonrvn | kernal is amiga ;) |
| 01:21.10 | lore17 | simonrvn, sorry |
| 01:21.22 | simonrvn | it's ok :). |
| 01:21.29 | nsadmin | 2.6.29 |
| 01:22.22 | nsadmin | and kernak is johnny carson |
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| 01:26.23 | lore17 | networking seems to be working after install |
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| 01:28.35 | Pillz | umm, so I figured out why X isn't working |
| 01:28.42 | Pillz | i have no /etc/x11/xorg.conf |
| 01:28.52 | Pillz | how can i generate one in Debian? |
| 01:29.04 | lore17 | nsadmin, thanks for trying to help, it seems everything is working automagically :D |
| 01:29.05 | Pillz | xorg.conf doesn't work |
| 01:29.26 | Pillz | and reinstalling via apt-get doesn't fix it |
| 01:29.38 | nsadmin | lore17: after doing what? |
| 01:29.51 | avtobiff | !tell Pillz about confmiss |
| 01:29.56 | lore17 | reinstalling |
| 01:30.08 | nsadmin | oh... ok |
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| 01:31.01 | Pillz | ty avtobiff. don't know why they would be deleted.. it was a fresh install |
| 01:32.01 | Pillz | apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" <---- what exactly would that mean? |
| 01:33.23 | WDC | Stupidest thing I've ever seen |
| 01:33.26 | WDC | STILL not working |
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| 01:34.51 | Pillz | ive got to go take care of something, bbs. ill scroll up to see if someone clarifies what <<apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss">> means when i finish upstairs |
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| 01:38.00 | azeem | Pillz|Away: it means apt-get will use the dpkg option --force-confmiss when installing packages, see the dpkg manpage on what that option means |
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| 01:39.42 | _Pete_ | who ever is writing those man pages is doing art of telling nothing :) |
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| 01:49.00 | Siegfried | is there a better way than checking PIDs if i want to wait for the end of a program i launch in a bash script? |
| 01:50.47 | _Pete_ | Siegfried: better way compared to what? |
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| 01:51.03 | Siegfried | to checking if the pid is running :P |
| 01:51.41 | _Pete_ | what are you trying to do? |
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| 01:52.03 | Siegfried | run a php script from inside a while in a bash script |
| 01:52.13 | Siegfried | but i want it to wait that it ends |
| 01:52.22 | Siegfried | to not start many at the same time |
| 01:52.34 | r0tu | I'm running make-kpkg with append-to for the sencond time, as I forgot to include my wifi drivers... but now I'm getting: The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h |
| 01:52.38 | r0tu | can anyone help? |
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| 01:53.40 | r0tu | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.58 | _Pete_ | Siegfried: is it the same bash script which launches php? |
| 01:55.08 | Siegfried | yes |
| 01:55.39 | _Pete_ | then do some check there to see if php is launched or nogt |
| 01:55.59 | Siegfried | no better solution? :/ |
| 01:56.13 | Siegfried | as i'm running the script more than once :p |
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| 01:56.16 | _Pete_ | I can not think of any |
| 01:56.31 | _Pete_ | you mean in parallel? |
| 01:56.42 | Siegfried | yes |
| 01:56.51 | _Pete_ | hmm |
| 01:57.01 | _Pete_ | that always complicates things |
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| 01:57.12 | Siegfried | i thought a program would exist for this.. but i can't find |
| 01:57.17 | cman | how can i record my screen? |
| 01:57.22 | Siegfried | or a command |
| 01:57.26 | cman | for what? |
| 01:57.37 | Siegfried | cman, recordmydesktop |
| 01:58.01 | r0tu | does no one here know anything of compiling the kernel the debian way? |
| 01:58.11 | Siegfried | cman, gtk-recordmydesktop even better |
| 01:58.24 | mosno | r0tu: make-kpkg, i believe |
| 01:58.27 | _Pete_ | Siegfried: I think with scripts it's quite impossible to have atomic operations you are looking for |
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| 01:58.55 | cman | how do i install a .rpm? |
| 01:59.17 | _Pete_ | cman: first install redhat |
| 01:59.29 | r0tu | I'm re-building my kernel for the second time, I am getting an error on make-kpkg ... sais "does not match current version:" |
| 01:59.42 | Pillz|Away | azeem: so... apt-get -o dpkg xserver-xorg-core --force-confmiss |
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| 01:59.50 | Pillz|Away | something like that? |
| 02:00.02 | cman | got it |
| 02:00.17 | r0tu | I tried make mrproper and make clean |
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| 02:00.46 | xxtjaxx | can some body explain me this error message dpkg-buildpackage: Fehler: kann Quellen geändert durch nicht bestimmen? |
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| 02:01.40 | r0tu | i guess make-dpkg didn't take into account to rebuild the kernel? |
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| 02:02.33 | pickcoder | has anyone done any development work on the touch screen OEM toy that Technologic Systems has put out? It's supposedly running Debian Sarge and boots it in 1 second. |
| 02:02.37 | Pillz|Away | _Pete_, would "apt-get -o dpkg xserver-xorg-core --force-confmiss" be what i need? |
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| 02:03.38 | cman | what is a good site for nature wallpaper? |
| 02:03.45 | _Pete_ | Pillz|Away: no idea |
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| 02:03.57 | Pillz|Away | okay |
| 02:04.39 | pickcoder | r0tu: what command line did you issue |
| 02:04.57 | pickcoder | !tell r0tu about kpmantra |
| 02:05.03 | pickcoder | !tell r0tu about kp-mantra |
| 02:05.07 | xxtjaxx | r0tu, its not a kernel module its a python program |
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| 02:05.19 | r0tu | pickcoder: make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-j002 kernel_image kernel_headers |
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| 02:05.19 | xxtjaxx | so what does that mean?dpkg-buildpackage: Fehler: kann Quellen geändert durch nicht bestimmen+ |
| 02:05.39 | r0tu | pickcoder: I ran version=-j001 for the first build\ |
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| 02:07.03 | pickcoder | r0tu: review the dpkg priv msg |
| 02:08.15 | r0tu | pickcoder: what's a priv msg? |
| 02:08.55 | pickcoder | prvate message |
| 02:09.05 | pickcoder | I told dpkg to tell you about kp-mantra |
| 02:09.37 | r0tu | pickcoder: I don't understand. |
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| 02:10.51 | r0tu | pickcoder: Oh.. I thought you were talking about why this error might be happening. |
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| 02:12.11 | Siegfried | _Pete_, found what i needed: the wait command :D |
| 02:12.35 | _Pete_ | ok good :) |
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| 02:12.52 | regurgitate | hi |
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| 02:13.19 | regurgitate | can someone help me to change the system clock |
| 02:13.39 | regurgitate | must be syncronized to new summer time, but didn't |
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| 02:19.04 | Siegfried | regurgitate, ntpdate -u ntp.isc.org |
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| 02:20.37 | regurgitate | yes |
| 02:20.47 | regurgitate | but show utc and cest |
| 02:21.01 | regurgitate | utc 2:00 and cest 4:00, but cest must be 3:00 |
| 02:21.16 | regurgitate | at least at spain |
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| 02:21.42 | Siegfried | 4:13 in spain |
| 02:21.46 | Siegfried | 4:21* |
| 02:22.56 | regurgitate | oh, shit, is true .... |
| 02:23.14 | regurgitate | i'm embarrased :S |
| 02:23.32 | regurgitate | time to sleep |
| 02:24.37 | regurgitate | thanks |
| 02:24.40 | _Pete_ | Siegfried: you are from Spain? Then greetings from Finland :) |
| 02:25.00 | Siegfried | _Pete_, no france :p greetings! |
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| 02:25.30 | subsume | How can one remap the space-bar without a space-bar? =) |
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| 02:27.52 | _Pete_ | Siegfried: about that wait thing, would intrest me too, how is it actually working? |
| 02:28.15 | zinx | subsume: copy/paste |
| 02:28.32 | subsume | zinx: in a terminal?? |
| 02:28.33 | Siegfried | i tried it , works well, you just run your command with & |
| 02:28.35 | zinx | subsume: yes |
| 02:28.42 | Siegfried | and then use wait and it works great :) |
| 02:28.57 | subsume | zinx: explain...? I'm not sure how to copy a space from a terminal... or where'd i'd "get" the space. |
| 02:29.12 | zinx | subsume: the Linux terminal may also support using alt+<numeric keypad numbers> to get a space |
| 02:29.18 | subsume | hmm |
| 02:29.18 | zinx | subsume: gpm |
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| 02:29.28 | subsume | gpm? hmm... ok... |
| 02:29.34 | zinx | subsume: spaces are quite ubiquitous on most screens of text or without :P |
| 02:29.41 | blindy | what does the s do in rename "s/foo/foox/ * |
| 02:29.45 | subsume | yes but i can't vim anything =) |
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| 02:29.51 | zinx | subsume: you don't have to |
| 02:29.57 | zinx | subsume: any blank character is a space... |
| 02:30.14 | subsume | if I had a gui I'd understand... |
| 02:30.17 | subsume | lemme boot it up |
| 02:30.20 | zinx | subsume: is your screen filled with E's and spaces disabled on your prompt? :/ |
| 02:30.40 | subsume | well... no |
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| 02:30.49 | zinx | subsume: there are spaces between all my words. there are spaces after this -> |
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| 02:30.59 | subsume | i'm not on that box |
| 02:31.00 | zinx | subsume: spaces are everywhere. |
| 02:31.04 | subsume | or else i wouldn't be comprehensible =) |
| 02:31.20 | zinx | subsume: my point is, all that blank space you see on the screen is spaces. |
| 02:31.45 | subsume | the problem isn't seeing them. =) |
| 02:32.20 | zinx | subsume: anyway, you can also try alt-<numeric keypad 3><numeric keypad 2> |
| 02:32.29 | zinx | it may take doing 032 instead of 32, not sure |
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| 02:32.52 | zinx | subsume: gpm, if you have it, will give you a cutbuffer similar to X's, but in the console |
| 02:33.14 | zinx | (drag to select + put in buffer, middle click to paste) |
| 02:33.26 | subsume | i catch your drift |
| 02:33.32 | blindy | what does the s does in rename 's/foo/foox/' * |
| 02:33.35 | subsume | from there i suppose i can permanently change the keymap |
| 02:33.39 | subsume | switch? |
| 02:33.44 | zinx | subsume: 'loadkeys us' would be good |
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| 02:34.07 | maddash | hi all. I've got the following network topology: (bcl2) eth0/1.2.3.4 --------- eth0/1.2.3.1 (p53) eth1/192.168.0.24 --------- Internet |
| 02:34.13 | zinx | subsume: i don't know how you lost your space key in the first place, though |
| 02:34.18 | subsume | its broken |
| 02:34.20 | subsume | physically. |
| 02:34.30 | zinx | subsume: oh, you're going to have to map something to it, then |
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| 02:34.40 | zinx | subsume: or keep using alt+numpad32 |
| 02:34.45 | maddash | hi all. I've got the following network topology: (bcl2) eth0/1.2.3.4 --------- eth0/1.2.3.1 (p53) eth1/192.168.0.24 --------- Internet I'd like to give bcl2 internet access via p53, how would I do this? |
| 02:35.31 | subsume | zinx: alt isn't working in terminal |
| 02:35.45 | zinx | subsume: the linux console or a terminal emulator? |
| 02:35.53 | subsume | linux console |
| 02:36.03 | subsume | its bringing up something like (arg:...) |
| 02:36.04 | zinx | subsume: did you try alt+numpad032 ? |
| 02:36.11 | zinx | subsume: it has to be the numeric keypad |
| 02:36.12 | subsume | its a laptop, so I use the numbers up top? |
| 02:36.19 | zinx | subsume: no, it MUST be the numeric keypad, period |
| 02:36.47 | zinx | subsume: many laptops let you switch to a numeric keypad using Fn+something |
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| 02:37.28 | subsume | oh i see it |
| 02:37.30 | subsume | you're right |
| 02:37.37 | subsume | a space. alas. |
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| 02:38.02 | subsume | i wonder if i can change the mapping on install? |
| 02:38.16 | zinx | subsume: sure.. but you'll probably need to use spaces to do so |
| 02:38.25 | subsume | but i can use alt for the time being |
| 02:38.27 | zinx | subsume: since keyboards without a space key are not common |
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| 02:39.01 | Pillz|Away | anyone know if "apt-get -o dpkg xserver-xorg-core --force-confmiss" is a proper command to get an xorg.conf or did i get that wrong? |
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| 02:40.38 | Skolem | I think I messed up my /etc/inittab. I'm running Lenny. How can I restore it? |
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| 02:43.06 | wedge | Skolem: http://pastebin.com/m6a4e6dbe |
| 02:43.09 | wedge | there's a copy of mine |
| 02:43.19 | sepult_ | Skolem: dpkg -L inittab |
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| 02:45.14 | Pillz|Away | wedge / sepult would you know if "apt-get -o dpkg xserver-xorg-core --force-confmiss" is the command needed to get an /etc/x11/xorg.conf? |
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| 02:45.38 | sepult_ | Pillz|Away: yes |
| 02:46.02 | Pillz|Away | best news ive heard all day =P |
| 02:46.04 | Pillz|Away | thank you |
| 02:47.35 | squ34llycak3s | any perl people here? |
| 02:47.45 | Pillz|Away | sepult can i assume debian's installer has already downloaded the intel driver? and if not, would that command take care of it? |
| 02:47.52 | sepult_ | Pillz|Away: apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" bla |
| 02:47.58 | squ34llycak3s | Catching error: 'Can\'t locate object method "zlib" via package "Compress" at /usr/sha\ |
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| 02:49.15 | Pillz|Away | sepult_ - yes, thats exactly what I input? or do I have to replace anything? |
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| 02:51.27 | Skolem | sepult_: thanks! |
| 02:52.36 | sepult_ | Skolem: apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" bla |
| 02:52.41 | Skolem | sepult: That says, "Package `inittab' is not installed.". aptitude install inittab says "Couldn't find any package matching "inittab"" |
| 02:52.53 | Skolem | By "that", I mean "dpkg -L inittab" |
| 02:53.12 | sepult_ | Skolem: inittab is not a package itself, it belongs to one you have to find |
| 02:53.25 | Skolem | Yeha, how do I do that? I even installed apt-file and did a search but didn't see it. |
| 02:53.29 | sepult_ | Skolem: dpkg -L package lists the contents of packages |
| 02:53.56 | Skolem | Apparently no package contains /etc/inittab. |
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| 02:55.31 | Sisk | Does anyone know a solution for the gconf "Failed to contact configuration server" bug that causes stuff to lag on opening other than deleting and/or changing permissions on files in /tmp? That's the only solution I've turned up in a couple hours on Google and it did nothing for me. |
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| 02:58.31 | Pillz|Away | would selecting to boot to the single user entery in grub bring me to the command line? |
| 02:58.35 | luckylucy | anyone have any info on backing up a whole system, operating system and all, without taking down the system? i am looking and not finding much. |
| 02:58.53 | subsume | luckylucy: to what end |
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| 03:00.34 | luckylucy | subsume: i have a router / pdc setup, only takes 2gb, but in 6 months i will have no idea how to redo it. if i crashes, i need a quick and easy fix. i am thinking i want to take an image of the whole hdd, and store on a backup drive (over the network if possible.) |
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| 03:01.06 | subsume | so... image the whole thing and save it somewhere, sounds good. |
| 03:01.37 | luckylucy | subsume: yes, but how to do so without taking it down? have you done this? |
| 03:02.00 | subsume | without taking it down? I'm not sure its possible |
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| 03:02.39 | subsume | you want the system to like, beam a copy of itself across a network? |
| 03:03.01 | subsume | dd / /some/mounted/external/drive/ =) I have no idea if that would work. |
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| 03:06.21 | sepult_ | Skolem: it belongs to sysvinit |
| 03:06.34 | sepult_ | Skolem: dpkg -L sysvinit |
| 03:06.51 | sepult_ | Skolem: /usr/share/sysvinit/inittab |
| 03:07.04 | sepult_ | Skolem: gets copied to /etc/inittab i assume |
| 03:07.10 | careta | luckylucy, have you tried rsync? |
| 03:07.42 | sepult_ | Skolem: or will be modified according to a script of that package and then get copied over |
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| 03:08.58 | sepult_ | Skolem: apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" sysvinit |
| 03:09.05 | sepult_ | Skolem: should get it back |
| 03:09.47 | pousson | what could be wrong if a device is configured in /etc/network/interfaces but does not appear in ifconfig? |
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| 03:10.31 | _Pete_ | pousson: spelling error ? |
| 03:10.52 | sepult_ | pousson: the module for it is not loaded, or could not be located to be loaded, which means you have to install the package for it or the corresp. linux-module |
| 03:11.24 | luckylucy | careta: i have looked, seems that it will do directories, filesystems, but i am worried about setting up the system again, say in 6 months when i have forgotten everything i have done, and have made bad notes. |
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| 03:12.35 | subsume | luckylucy: you're going to find identical hardware to run it on should something crash? |
| 03:12.59 | pousson | sepult_: could be, because this happen after i did a rescue my system with a netinst cd. |
| 03:13.17 | careta | luckylucy, you can rsync the root fs /, provided that you specify an exclude file containing /proc, /sys, /dev and any other mounted fs you do not want to copy |
| 03:15.03 | pousson | sepult_: thks, off to work on it. bye. |
| 03:15.11 | luckylucy | careta: this sounds promising. i am not too versed in the system file structure, but it appears you have shown the parts that will never be changed. this could work. |
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| 03:16.45 | robison | #debian-br |
| 03:17.17 | robison | olá alguém pode se comunidar comigo? |
| 03:17.40 | robison | é a primeira vez que entro!!! |
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| 03:19.11 | sepult_ | wow i can backup now |
| 03:19.13 | sepult_ | heh |
| 03:19.18 | sepult_ | flexbackup is cool |
| 03:19.31 | sepult_ | i have just another spare partition for it |
| 03:20.37 | careta | luckylucy, the directories i specified are the dynamic ones, created at boot time. there is a man page for reading the fs structure, but i don't remember it now.. anyway, i rsync the / lots of times with that exclude file |
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| 03:25.02 | Rusty1 | !portugese |
| 03:25.03 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
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| 03:25.56 | careta | portuguese is spelled with an u |
| 03:26.05 | Rusty1 | sorry |
| 03:26.49 | robison | algum brasileiro pode me ajudar? |
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| 03:27.05 | clearscreen | !english |
| 03:27.06 | dpkg | English as a language (and other uses) has plenty of background on wikipedia, however for #debian support, it's the primary and best supported language here. Please use other specific language channels (even if they're very idle), a related mailing list, or your best English here anyway (we'll try to cope) |
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| 03:27.18 | UWR_Player_ | hi |
| 03:27.40 | UWR_Player_ | d |
| 03:27.41 | careta | fala ai robison |
| 03:27.41 | UWR_Player_ | d |
| 03:27.43 | UWR_Player_ | d |
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| 03:27.57 | robison | olá careta |
| 03:28.04 | careta | ola |
| 03:28.05 | clearscreen | !english | robison |
| 03:28.07 | UWR_Player_ | speak english |
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| 03:28.50 | robison | speak portuguese, clearscreen!!! |
| 03:29.10 | clearscreen | robison: I hope you're trying to be funny. This is an english channel. |
| 03:29.23 | careta | robison fala comigo no privado |
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| 03:48.58 | andybond13 | anyone have experience with sudo problems directly after install |
| 03:49.18 | luckylucy | andybond13: what is the problem? |
| 03:50.19 | andybond13 | luckylucy: I installed, setup my user acct; go to do something requiring sudo and it says I'm not on the sudoers list |
| 03:50.23 | clearscreen | andybond13: you need to modify /etc/sudoers |
| 03:50.29 | clearscreen | as su |
| 03:50.42 | andybond13 | I thought I did |
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| 03:51.01 | andybond13 | I went from the install cd, running a shell |
| 03:51.07 | andybond13 | I edited the /etc/sudoers |
| 03:51.19 | andybond13 | I think I added %admin = (ALL) ALL |
| 03:51.25 | clearscreen | do you have an admin group? |
| 03:51.27 | andybond13 | or something like that, but it didn't fix it |
| 03:51.28 | clearscreen | is your user part of it? |
| 03:51.47 | luckylucy | and what just add your user in sudoers, to check that that is the problem. that is the easiest way. |
| 03:51.49 | andybond13 | I have no idea, but I am the only user |
| 03:52.02 | luckylucy | just add your user. |
| 03:52.06 | andybond13 | how |
| 03:52.08 | clearscreen | if you're the only user you can change %admin to your_username |
| 03:52.13 | andybond13 | ok |
| 03:52.19 | andybond13 | same everything else? |
| 03:52.22 | clearscreen | yes |
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| 03:52.47 | andybond13 | I'll give it a shot next time I boot it up |
| 03:52.56 | andybond13 | I do have a separate problem |
| 03:53.33 | andybond13 | about half the time when I boot, it goes to mandatory checking of some sort, then makes me run fsck from command terminal (before gui load) |
| 03:53.42 | andybond13 | about every other time I boot |
| 03:53.51 | andybond13 | hdd going up? |
| 03:53.57 | clearscreen | don't cancel the check :P |
| 03:54.06 | andybond13 | I don't, but it takes like 1 minute |
| 03:54.11 | andybond13 | *hour, each time |
| 03:54.19 | clearscreen | Well, it should only scan about once every 30 reboots |
| 03:54.40 | andybond13 | right, so why does mine run so much |
| 03:54.42 | clearscreen | not sure where that limit can be set, it shouldn't scan every other time |
| 03:54.54 | andybond13 | it finds stuff every time |
| 03:55.00 | clearscreen | are you properly rebooting? (as in: not just pressing the reboot button) |
| 03:55.01 | andybond13 | and fixes it, I think |
| 03:55.03 | andybond13 | yeah |
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| 03:55.21 | clearscreen | another issue could be that your harddisk is acting up, I wouldnt really know to be totally honest |
| 03:55.51 | andybond13 | thanks anyway |
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| 03:58.58 | Silver | this morning i installed grub2 from svn. everything ran normal i suppoed. when ran grub-install (hda) i rebooted with error: the symbol 'grub_get_time_ms' not found |
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| 03:59.09 | Silver | enters rescue mode: grub rescue> |
| 03:59.18 | Silver | should i have used grub-install (hd0) |
| 03:59.26 | Silver | i've tried to reinstall grub using debian installer in recovery mode but havent been sucessful |
| 03:59.58 | Silver | any suggestions? |
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| 04:15.43 | uzbek | hi everybody! |
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| 04:16.56 | uzbek | i have /dev/hda3 where there was windows. now i'd like to erase it and format like ext3 and use for my linux. how can i do that? thanx! |
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| 04:20.30 | WormFood | is there any debian app that will report embedded info on a winblows app, like version number (assuming the exe has that info set)? |
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| 04:23.23 | illikawn | Silver grub-install /dev/* where * is hard drive 0 |
| 04:26.13 | luckylucy | i have a raid5 array, with two disks, which is not what i wanted. i wanted an raid 5 array with 3 disks, one being the os. how can i do this so that all 3 are part of the array, including the os disk |
| 04:26.27 | luckylucy | using mdadm |
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| 04:30.07 | pousson | just found out the 'cp' has a limit on the number of files it can handle. any better copy command around? |
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| 04:31.44 | pousson | everyone asleep? |
| 04:32.14 | Xenguy | pousson: what's the limit? |
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| 04:33.48 | pousson | Xenguy: don't know the number but it can't handle all the files in my apt archives. |
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| 04:34.23 | luckylucy | it appears that debian doesn't have the setup for raid in it's installation that ubuntu has, or am i just missing something in the partitioning section of the install? how to get a raid array with the operating system on it? |
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| 04:35.10 | pousson | is there a way to specify copying all files from a*.* to n*.* ? |
| 04:36.10 | pousson | copying a range of file from a source starting from a*.* and ending in n*.* to a destination? |
| 04:37.48 | NiLon | is dot related? |
| 04:38.13 | NiLon | cp ^[a-n].*\..* dest |
| 04:38.16 | NiLon | but something like that |
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| 04:41.12 | pousson | NiLon: the dot is to separate the file type . will 'cp [a-n]*.* dest' not be sufficient? don't understand backslash and the .. u have used. |
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| 04:41.50 | NiLon | pousson it won't be same |
| 04:42.20 | NiLon | it's regex and there dot means any character not dot |
| 04:42.23 | NiLon | so you need to escape it |
| 04:42.30 | NiLon | and .* is normal * |
| 04:42.48 | NiLon | * means 0 or x repeats of . :P |
| 04:42.51 | pousson | Nilon ok, thks. |
| 04:43.04 | NiLon | ^ means start anchor so you wanna use that too |
| 04:43.19 | bpun | java jre for lenny is in the default repository? |
| 04:43.36 | NiLon | pousson just cp ^[a-n].*\..* dest and you are fine |
| 04:44.24 | NiLon | pousson [a-n]*.* would file match files like qwerta |
| 04:44.50 | pousson | Nilon, ok, thks again, back to work. bye. |
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| 04:52.19 | macman_ | hi |
| 04:52.28 | macman_ | can i boot up debian on a live cd ? |
| 04:52.38 | macman_ | err that didn't come out right |
| 04:52.48 | NiLon | is there one? |
| 04:53.14 | luckylucy | knoppix is close... |
| 04:53.26 | macman_ | im trying to perform data recovery on a mac .. i want to use linux to mount it .. any good options |
| 04:53.29 | NiLon | was just saying that ubuntu and knoppix is closest what I could think of |
| 04:53.31 | DogBoy | kanotix, grml, sidux |
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| 04:54.20 | NiLon | wasn't there live cd for distro that was designed for thatkind of use :p |
| 04:54.35 | NiLon | can't just think name |
| 04:54.42 | macman_ | hmm.. |
| 04:54.44 | NiLon | something to do with break |
| 04:55.02 | DogBoy | http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd |
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| 04:55.31 | NiLon | http://www.darknet.org.uk/2006/03/10-best-security-live-cd-distros-pen-test-forensics-recovery/ |
| 04:55.32 | NiLon | mm |
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| 04:58.29 | simonrvn | there is a live cd |
| 04:58.35 | simonrvn | !debian-live |
| 04:58.35 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides prebuilt Debian live system images and allows to create your own. http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ #debian-live on OFTC (irc.debian.org). |
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| 05:01.14 | macman_ | umm.. |
| 05:01.17 | macman_ | i have a debian live cd |
| 05:01.22 | macman_ | i don't think its going to boot up this mac |
| 05:01.42 | DogBoy | there are live cds for mac too |
| 05:01.46 | DogBoy | just not as many |
| 05:03.06 | macman_ | found them |
| 05:03.07 | macman_ | thanks |
| 05:03.17 | macman_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LiveCDs |
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| 05:14.31 | bpun | hi |
| 05:15.09 | bpun | i cant find an adobe flash plugin from nonfree , anyone knows where i can find one (other than adobe's site) ? |
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| 05:31.28 | bpun | so where should i get adobe-flash? (other than not seeing it in non free and obviously knowing theres a ubuntu package from adobe) ? |
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| 05:36.35 | bpun | is backports very insecure? |
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| 05:39.24 | Just4Now | I found this recent article about debian lenny properly identificying all components on the Nvidia MCP 79 Chipset in the new 2009 MacMini . http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/3/12/66 CentOS 5.2 seems to be unable to identify all the same components. Any idea where Debian Lenny and CentOS might in hardware identification? Perhaps in the Device ID's? |
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| 05:59.18 | hoxu | !qotd0 |
| 05:59.18 | dpkg | < xpurple> Now I'm getting a message that says "Sending IP address to NSA" |
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| 06:00.55 | Just4Now | lmao |
| 06:00.57 | Just4Now | hahaha |
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| 06:17.22 | JimmyTheSadPanda | What would you guys suggest for a decent debian CLI torrent program, preferably avaliable via apt |
| 06:18.11 | superjet_busy | rtorrent |
| 06:18.55 | JimmyTheSadPanda | ty :) |
| 06:19.03 | superjet_busy | however, if you like dht, then you should compile newer from source, which only supported since 0.8.0 |
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| 06:24.47 | luckylucy | do you have to have a live-cd to add debian to a raid array, or is there a way to add the root fs disk to the array? |
| 06:24.52 | clearscreen | JimmyTheSadPanda: not sure if it's in the debian repositories... but either deluge or transmission :) |
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| 06:27.42 | Just4Now | where can i redownload the nvidia driver that comes in debia all by itself (forcedeth ) |
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| 06:28.26 | clearscreen | Just4Now: do you mean the xorg 'nv' driver? |
| 06:28.36 | Just4Now | yes |
| 06:28.58 | clearscreen | apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv |
| 06:29.06 | Just4Now | thank you |
| 06:29.19 | clearscreen | unless you uninstalled it, it should still be on your system though |
| 06:29.33 | clearscreen | you just need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you want to use that driver instead |
| 06:29.45 | clearscreen | take note that you will lose direct rendering |
| 06:30.16 | Just4Now | ok thanks |
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| 06:31.00 | hoxu | Just4Now, uh, forcedeth is a network driver... did you mean video? |
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| 06:40.46 | lanceallott | installed Lenny on new quadcore machine (very nice!). Used rsync to transfer from old etch box to new Lenny. Old box had Iceape, new Iceweasel, problem is none of my bookmarks show up in weasel. :( |
| 06:41.54 | lanceallott | that is old etech box /home to new Lenny /home |
| 06:42.24 | ploceidae | did ~/.mozilla/ copy over? |
| 06:42.42 | lanceallott | ploceidae: checking |
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| 06:43.48 | lanceallott | ploceidae: yes .mozilla is present in ~/home |
| 06:44.13 | WormFood | is there any debian app that will report embedded info on a winblows app, like version number (assuming the exe has that info set)? |
| 06:44.56 | hoxu | WormFood, dunno about that, but you can use 'strings' to search for strings in binary files |
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| 06:45.23 | hoxu | lanceallott, do you also have ~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile>/bookmarks.html ? |
| 06:46.00 | hoxu | lanceallott, hum, nevermind, that's no longer used since FF3 |
| 06:46.34 | ploceidae | what is used now? |
| 06:47.02 | hoxu | sqlite databases... *.sqlite |
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| 06:47.50 | lanceallott | hoxu: no just have /home/.mozilla/firefox/k6d* default profiles.ini |
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| 06:48.26 | ploceidae | lanceallott, check your old ~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile>/ |
| 06:48.27 | hoxu | lanceallott, check that you are launching firefox with correct profile... firefox -ProfileManager |
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| 06:49.40 | lanceallott | ok will check ...standby |
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| 06:52.26 | simonrvn | IW/FF should migrate the profile automatically, and i think it doesn't delete the old data either. |
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| 06:53.29 | WormFood | hoxu, I don't think the info I want is readable by strings....however, I do use strings to search binary files (actually, I already looked at it with strings) |
| 06:54.43 | lanceallott | etch only has subdirectories /default and /plugins ...Lenny has those two plus /firefox and /extensions |
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| 06:56.27 | lanceallott | they both have appreg mozver.dat pluginreg.dat |
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| 07:03.33 | lanceallott | how or where is the profilemanager...typing about profile on the location bar brings up a regular webpage! |
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| 07:04.39 | luckylucy | anyone familiar with setting up raid? |
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| 07:05.47 | luckylucy | i am at the partition section of the debian install, i see my two drives, and the raid a device, but can't partition the raid device, should i be partitioning the disks within the array, or the array itself? |
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| 07:07.34 | simonrvn | lanceallott: hoxu told you how already |
| 07:07.44 | hoxu | lanceallott, "firefox -ProfileManager" in terminal |
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| 07:08.53 | lanceallott | hoxu: sorry! will try that.... |
| 07:09.13 | luckylucy | the disks are showing FREE SPACE, but i cannot split the raid device into ext3 and swap. i don't even get the option. |
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| 07:14.51 | AnnonyMouse | anyone online? |
| 07:15.35 | jeffrey_ | me |
| 07:15.40 | AnnonyMouse | having trouble locating the deb repoitory security file (*.asc?) |
| 07:15.51 | AnnonyMouse | to do a wget {} |
| 07:15.59 | AnnonyMouse | & then apt-key add {} |
| 07:16.16 | AnnonyMouse | but the http://www.debian.org/security/ does not specify |
| 07:16.20 | jeffrey_ | don't know this, can't help you :) |
| 07:16.36 | AnnonyMouse | eerrr |
| 07:16.37 | AnnonyMouse | ok |
| 07:16.39 | AnnonyMouse | thanks |
| 07:16.46 | simonrvn | !security |
| 07:16.46 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security><testing security><unstable security>. |
| 07:16.55 | simonrvn | AnnonyMouse: ^^^ |
| 07:17.16 | AnnonyMouse | thnx |
| 07:17.20 | AnnonyMouse | bot? |
| 07:17.35 | simonrvn | yes dpkg is a bot here |
| 07:17.41 | AnnonyMouse | hehehehe |
| 07:17.48 | AnnonyMouse | pretty savvy bot, eh |
| 07:17.49 | AnnonyMouse | ;) |
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| 07:18.00 | lanceallott | I see that the command firefox -ProfileManager gives me a 3 tabbed window to create/rename/delete profile as far as settings go...my problem is no bookmarks |
| 07:18.40 | hoxu | lanceallott, the bookmarks are not visible in any of the profiles? |
| 07:19.18 | mosno | how does "dpkg-source -b" relate to "dpkg-buildpackage", if at all? |
| 07:19.20 | simonrvn | it learns well ;) |
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| 07:19.36 | lanceallott | hoxu: this is a fresh install...the only profile appearing is 'default user' |
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| 07:20.11 | hoxu | lanceallott, I thought you copied over your ~/.mozilla from elsewhere? |
| 07:21.33 | lanceallott | I did just that using rsync....but the old box had Iceape as the browser and the New has Iceweasel |
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| 07:22.26 | lanceallott | you think I could just go fish and copy the old profiles and past it into Iceweasel |
| 07:23.19 | lanceallott | I've done that with kmail |
| 07:23.22 | hoxu | hum well, if you rsynced the files, then I dunno... maybe someone is more familiar with Iceape / Iceweasel and can comment on this |
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| 07:24.28 | lanceallott | hoxu: i can live with it just thought I would get a few geeks advice |
| 07:25.11 | kamp2tux | i just connected the USB external harddisk, but it do not detected as a device name like /dev/sdxx and the dmesg show http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m3336d8c1 This USB harddisk is NTFS formatted. Because it has no device name, i unable to mount it. |
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| 07:26.19 | jeffrey_ | kamp, are you sure you box supports ntfs? |
| 07:26.36 | hoxu | that's not the problem... kamp2tux said the devices are not appearing |
| 07:27.04 | K_Sakura | kamp2tux: Have you made sure the usb-storage module is loaded? |
| 07:27.11 | jeffrey_ | how about if the ntfs module is not loaded? |
| 07:27.16 | kamp2tux | I have internal harddisk (ntfs) and it is working fine, but not for this USB external harddisk |
| 07:27.33 | jeffrey_ | then check usb module |
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| 07:27.47 | jeffrey_ | any other usb device you can get to test? |
| 07:28.18 | K_Sakura | Like a USB stick? |
| 07:28.21 | kamp2tux | K_Sakura, I am newbie, Do i need to install usb-storage module software? |
| 07:28.22 | jeffrey_ | yes |
| 07:28.31 | K_Sakura | modprobe usb-storage |
| 07:28.52 | kamp2tux | my USB stick/thumbdrive is also working fine (it is on FAT32) |
| 07:28.53 | jeffrey_ | lsmod | grep usb |
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| 07:29.50 | jeffrey_ | work fine with the same usb port? |
| 07:30.13 | kamp2tux | modprobe usb-storage --> not output |
| 07:30.24 | kamp2tux | lsmod | grep usb --> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m10fb71d0 |
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| 07:30.56 | kamp2tux | USB stick is not different USB port than this External harddiks |
| 07:31.21 | jeffrey_ | you've already loaded usb_storage |
| 07:31.24 | kamp2tux | ** USB stick is not in the same USB port than this External harddisk |
| 07:32.08 | jeffrey_ | plug your harddisk to another usb port, maybe there's something wrong with the port. |
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| 07:32.28 | foo-nix | I am trying to install my wifi firmware ( http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/firmware-ralink/download ) but apt-get cannot find it. I already updated my sources.list file of apt with the suggested line. |
| 07:32.30 | K_Sakura | Have you checked the power connector for the enclosure? Also, have you used that enclosure before? (With it working). |
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| 07:34.36 | jeffrey_ | foo-nix, you should use "apt-get install <package>" |
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| 07:35.17 | K_Sakura | I vaguely recall that one of the enclosures I've had would detect, but not spin up the disk, without its AC adapter connected. (IIRC) |
| 07:35.17 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, sure, but that fails atm. |
| 07:35.31 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, atp-get install ralink-firmware does not work. |
| 07:35.49 | jeffrey_ | try "apt-cache search ralink" |
| 07:35.59 | foo-nix | uhm firmware-ralink |
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| 07:36.49 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, It only lists the sources for the driver (I guess they are the sources for the kernel modules?), not the firmware package. |
| 07:37.46 | jeffrey_ | then download the firmware package, and install it by using 'dpkg -i packagename" |
| 07:38.30 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, http://rafb.net/p/9VNhxC72.html |
| 07:38.45 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, disabling me to update the package I guess? |
| 07:38.55 | foo-nix | let me see if I can find other non-fre epackagesd |
| 07:38.58 | foo-nix | *packages |
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| 07:40.26 | kamp2tux | K_Sakura, jeffrey_ I plugged the USB harddisk on different USB post and it work fine now, thanks for advices. |
| 07:40.59 | K_Sakura | Ah, the picky USB port. fun. </sarcasm> |
| 07:41.02 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, It can't find latex2html either. |
| 07:41.14 | foo-nix | So I guess my configuration is wrong |
| 07:41.34 | foo-nix | Does this include the non-free branch also? http://rafb.net/p/9VNhxC72.html |
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| 07:42.46 | kamp2tux | K_Sakura, the USB port is a PCI add-on to my computer, and it cannot recognise my USB external harddisk :( |
| 07:43.22 | jeffrey_ | foo-nix, I just test on my computer by "aptitude show firmware-ralink" and can see the package. |
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| 07:43.52 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, would you mind pastebinning your /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
| 07:44.35 | jeffrey_ | # cn99 testing |
| 07:44.36 | jeffrey_ | deb http://debian.cn99.com/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 07:44.38 | jeffrey_ | deb-src http://debian.cn99.com/debian testing main contrib non-free |
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| 07:44.59 | jeffrey_ | That's all, I'm using "testing" version |
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| 07:45.12 | foo-nix | kk |
| 07:45.12 | foo-nix | thanx |
| 07:45.46 | jeffrey_ | Maybe this package are not included in lenny |
| 07:45.55 | jeffrey_ | Are you using lenny? |
| 07:46.43 | jeffrey_ | Don't change your source to cn99.com unless you're in China. It's a Chian mirror. |
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| 07:49.01 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, I am using debian |
| 07:49.15 | jeffrey_ | which version? |
| 07:49.17 | foo-nix | and I have a slash behind each url |
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| 07:49.28 | foo-nix | uh, yesterday downloaded version ^^ |
| 07:49.33 | foo-nix | shall I do a uname?\ |
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| 07:49.52 | foo-nix | Linux foo-nix.home 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:49.52 | jeffrey_ | seems you're using lenny, the stable version |
| 07:50.14 | foo-nix | I am using lenny indeed |
| 07:51.01 | jeffrey_ | So, I'm not sure if this package is included in the stable version |
| 07:51.16 | foo-nix | ah kk |
| 07:51.20 | foo-nix | well |
| 07:51.49 | jeffrey_ | You can just download that package via http/ftp and then install it. |
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| 07:52.45 | foo-nix | Or I should goto sarge |
| 07:53.09 | jeffrey_ | sarge is much older |
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| 07:53.47 | foo-nix | I see |
| 07:53.52 | foo-nix | hmm, by hand it is then |
| 07:53.53 | foo-nix | thanx |
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| 07:55.51 | foo-nix | jeffrey_, wpa supplicant now detects my networks, thanks |
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| 07:57.59 | jeffrey_ | foo-nix, you're welcome :) |
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| 08:02.47 | aaronaok | how to find out which release or version i am using? |
| 08:02.57 | aaronaok | debian, that is. |
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| 08:04.32 | aaronaok | eh? |
| 08:04.33 | big_chill | hi, i would like to install debian with lxde or fxce , but i need to the menus to be in hebrew, how do i find out if such versions exist ? (inb4 google) |
| 08:04.34 | hatter_au | how would i play a physical sound when a file is accessed ? |
| 08:04.50 | big_chill | lenny that is... |
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| 08:05.44 | aaronaok | hatter_au: any musical instrument will do, just play it when you access a file. |
| 08:07.42 | omid8bimo | hey guys, one question that i always had. sometimes my hdd starts working hard. how can i find out what's eating my hdd i/o? |
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| 08:09.02 | luckylucy | if i raid5 two drives (+1 missing) that are say 1gb, i should get 1gb array right? |
| 08:09.23 | bpun | fonts that get listed with xlsfonts.. there a way to make new fonts available system-wide instead of copying them to ~/.fonts ? |
| 08:10.13 | foo-nix | In gentoo I could specify to let wpa_supplciant to do my wireless with this line in /etc/conf.d/net: modules=( "wpa_supplicant" ) Can I do something likewise in debian? |
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| 08:11.18 | foo-nix | Moreover I could specify it to use dhcp using: config_wlan0( "dhcp" ) |
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| 08:16.21 | omid8bimo | hey guys, one question that i always had. sometimes my hdd starts working hard. how can i find out what's eating my hdd i/o? |
| 08:16.23 | aaronaok | seems like the yanks have gone to sleep and no one is around to answer questions. |
| 08:18.17 | big_chill | yep |
| 08:18.29 | petemc | omid8bimo: echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump |
| 08:18.32 | zozo | omid8bimo iostat |
| 08:18.35 | big_chill | its 4:00 in new york,,,,, |
| 08:18.36 | marius | omid8bimo: dont know u could try System Monitor in the Applications |
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| 08:19.15 | petemc | omid8bimo: after toggling block_dump on, tail -f /var/log/debug | grep -Ev '(kjournald|pdflush|syslog , turn it off again after tho as it causes logs to grow very quickly |
| 08:19.42 | omid8bimo | zozo: i do check out iostat but won't give which process eaating the hard disk |
| 08:19.43 | petemc | and dont forgot to close the bracket, unlike me |
| 08:19.47 | bpun | omid8bimo, look with apt-cache.. i remember seeing something with io and "tops" |
| 08:20.00 | omid8bimo | petemc: i've never checked that. will try |
| 08:21.05 | zozo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:21.23 | hatter_au | does acpi allow me turn a pc on with nic access ? |
| 08:21.48 | petemc | yu need a nic that does wake on lan |
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| 08:23.07 | hatter_au | oh yeah, so the nic controls turning it on |
| 08:23.25 | apprentice | hi what apt-get package installs the default Debian Etch wallpapers? |
| 08:25.09 | bpun | apprentice, probably gnome themese |
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| 08:25.43 | aaronaok | after mounting my backup to /mnt, the command 'cp -r /mnt/etc /etc' should copy all directories and files from the backup to /etc, right? |
| 08:25.48 | omid8bimo | zozo: cool.. iotop is what i need. thanks dude |
| 08:25.55 | apprentice | bpun, I'll check tnx. |
| 08:26.41 | aaronaok | in fact, all directories, sub-directories and files, right? |
| 08:27.21 | Thomaschaaf | http://pastebin.com/m53dc45b0 this is what my config looks like and on boot only eth0 will get an ip |
| 08:27.32 | hatter_au | aaronaok, us cp -a |
| 08:28.06 | Thomaschaaf | to make eth1 get an IP I have to restart networking any ideas where I might have to add the eth1 through 3? |
| 08:28.12 | Thomaschaaf | or what I should chang? |
| 08:28.31 | hatter_au | Thomaschaaf, not sure what you mean |
| 08:28.38 | hatter_au | configure the interfaces ? |
| 08:28.53 | hatter_au | if so, /etc/network/intefaces |
| 08:28.58 | hatter_au | if so, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:28.59 | Thomaschaaf | hatter_au: I have 4 ethernet ports and only one gets an IP |
| 08:29.00 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, allow hot-plug eth1, auto eth1 |
| 08:29.13 | Thomaschaaf | for everthing? |
| 08:29.26 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, what interface u want working? |
| 08:29.43 | Thomaschaaf | eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3 |
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| 08:30.17 | Thomaschaaf | also add the allow hotplug for eth0? |
| 08:30.27 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, not sure about the auto though.. but have the hotplug one.. |
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| 08:31.24 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, i'm using a static class c address -- uses allow and iface.. but no auto.. |
| 08:31.27 | kibibyte | hi |
| 08:31.34 | apprentice | If I want to backup the default Wallpapers where can I find the image files? |
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| 08:31.58 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, try the interface with auto... |
| 08:32.53 | bpun | apprentice, dpkg -S /path then copy that package (aptitude download probably) |
| 08:33.36 | Thomaschaaf | bpun: I don't quiet understand |
| 08:33.42 | apprentice | bpun, dpkg -S /path? |
| 08:33.43 | bpun | apprentice, then u can use "dpkg -x <packagename> /todir" |
| 08:34.00 | Thomaschaaf | http://mibbit.com/pb/w73uYy |
| 08:34.01 | bpun | apprentice, that will print the package that was used to install that file |
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| 08:34.15 | apprentice | bpun, ic thnx |
| 08:34.31 | Thomaschaaf | rebooted and eth1 was down again |
| 08:34.34 | hatter_au | Thomaschaaf, you want static ir dynamic ip addresses ? |
| 08:34.43 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, try using that .. if it doesn't work.. then omit the auto for the interface (except lo of course) |
| 08:34.53 | Thomaschaaf | hatter_au: dynamic only works for one Ip? |
| 08:34.54 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, disable NetworkManager |
| 08:35.01 | hatter_au | Thomaschaaf, man interfaces |
| 08:35.26 | Thomaschaaf | bpun: where can I disable the network manager? |
| 08:35.54 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, (apt-get install sysvconfig sysv-rc-conf) and use sysvconfig to disable and 'service' command to stop networkmanager |
| 08:36.49 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, to restart interfaces u can type 'service networking restart' |
| 08:37.39 | hatter_au | Thomaschaaf, you can have whatever you like for each interface |
| 08:38.04 | aaronaok | hatter_au: it finishes so fast, less than a second, doubt it works. |
| 08:38.08 | bpun | Thomaschaaf, why 4 network interfaces btw? |
| 08:38.40 | Thomaschaaf | bpun: xen server running on it 2 vm's share a NIC and the host gets it own |
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| 08:43.15 | Thomaschaaf | are you guys shure that all I have to do is add it to the etc network interfaces file and don't have to add it somewhere else too |
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| 08:52.38 | kamp2tux | what codec package do i need to play .wmv files (without audio) i can play wmv video (totem,mplayer) but without voice, Please advise. thank you. |
| 08:55.44 | Thomaschaaf | well wow with static it works fine.. |
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| 09:02.51 | DarkUranium | hey |
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| 09:03.10 | DarkUranium | (Linux distros are known not to work on it because of the network card) |
| 09:05.28 | Thomaschaaf | it seems to be that all the eth are displaying as the same mac address for my router |
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| 09:13.53 | WormFood | jesus motherfuckin' christ! what the fuck does it take to reinstall grub? I've copied over my hard drive from my old computer to my new computer, and can not for the life of me get this god damn cocksucker to install grub...it constantly tells me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist", when it sure as hell does exist. Of course, I've done the obvious, and googled, but nothing works. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 09:15.03 | codingrobot | WormFood: are you installing it with grub-install /dev/sdX ? |
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| 09:15.50 | WormFood | yes, tried that, don't work |
| 09:16.26 | WormFood | I've booted with knoppix, mounted the drive, chrooted to it, and trying to install that way....I copied over the /dev/sd* device descriptors....no help |
| 09:16.27 | codingrobot | try removing (moving) device.map from /boot/grub and rerun grub-install |
| 09:16.41 | WormFood | it appears it deleted device.map for me |
| 09:16.45 | WormFood | at least, the contents of it |
| 09:16.57 | WormFood | I manually recreated device.map, with the correct mappings, but no help |
| 09:16.58 | codingrobot | it should recreate it automaticaly |
| 09:17.13 | nsadmin | personally I don't like grub-install because I don't know precisely what it does... I preferred to get into grub and use the shell and the install command. that's worked for me every time: I like the setup where grub installs stage1 to mbr and chainloads stage2 (no stage1.5s involved) |
| 09:17.17 | codingrobot | btw. which grub are you using legacy or grub2 ? |
| 09:17.32 | WormFood | grub-probe: error: cannot find a grub drive for /dev/sda |
| 09:17.42 | WormFood | I'm guessing legacy, 0.87 |
| 09:17.44 | WormFood | 0.97 |
| 09:17.56 | WormFood | I see nothing that says "Grub2" |
| 09:18.08 | WormFood | it should recreate device.map, but it does not |
| 09:18.37 | nsadmin | so can you boot the system at all? |
| 09:18.45 | nsadmin | also is this to an external drive? |
| 09:18.51 | WormFood | now my old drive was mapped as hda, and the new drive is sda...but I've edited fstab and the grub menu accordingly |
| 09:18.59 | WormFood | no, of course I can't boot it, grub is not installed |
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| 09:19.30 | nsadmin | not even with rescue mode of the cd? |
| 09:19.34 | WormFood | I booted with knoppix from cd |
| 09:19.41 | WormFood | then chrooted to the hard drive |
| 09:19.54 | WormFood | chroot . /bin/bash...then exec su - |
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| 09:20.04 | codingrobot | boot something that has some kind of bootloader and manually enter the kernel/initrd path to boot your old system |
| 09:20.38 | nsadmin | boot legacy grub into its shell |
| 09:20.47 | nsadmin | try booting from that |
| 09:21.05 | nsadmin | btw, it's saying which error? and have you looked up the meaning of that error? |
| 09:21.22 | nsadmin | and when do you get that error? when you do what? |
| 09:21.44 | WormFood | one sec, dealing with real life...brb |
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| 09:24.15 | Helion | what is the coolest music player out there? |
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| 09:24.55 | Helion | simple, compact and versatile are obligatory |
| 09:25.04 | _Pete_ | amarok |
| 09:25.16 | _Pete_ | not compact |
| 09:25.21 | _Pete_ | but cool :) |
| 09:25.23 | cammoblammo | mocp? |
| 09:26.31 | Helion | _Pete_ , nah don't like it |
| 09:26.50 | Helion | it's too big and ugly |
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| 09:48.39 | cast | does there exist a tool to compare atimes of installed files, and from this deduce when the last time each package was used? |
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| 09:49.06 | simonrvn | !popcon |
| 09:49.07 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff, or the basis for what packages appear on the first few cds/dvds etc (by rank) |
| 09:49.23 | simonrvn | look at how that does it. |
| 09:49.27 | zophy | all the name servers in the world no longer query for unknown hosts, what you have is what you get |
| 09:49.36 | cast | hmm |
| 09:50.16 | zophy | all the name servers in the world no longer query for unknown hosts, what you have is what you get |
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| 09:50.35 | zophy | this is the age of aquarius |
| 09:50.52 | cast | will do :) |
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| 09:51.17 | hatter_au | how do i change the keymap on lenny's desktop ? |
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| 09:54.55 | zophy | there really is no such thing as absinthe |
| 09:55.15 | zophy | or however you spell it |
| 09:55.19 | simonrvn | zophy: wtf? |
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| 09:56.14 | zophy | there are concoctions of near poision levels of various substances that will fsck you up that are called absinthe |
| 09:56.42 | simonrvn | take it to #debian-offtopic or be quiet |
| 09:57.10 | zophy | ok, why can't i resolve q.somegeek.info |
| 09:57.14 | zophy | ? |
| 09:57.18 | valdyn | Helion: mpd |
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| 10:02.02 | foetus | Maybe a little bit kde-specific - to compile kde with full inotify support, is it enough to install libfam with libfam-dev only? I don't wonna use fam for itself. |
| 10:03.48 | foetus | and i don't like using portmap too much.. |
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| 10:06.36 | valdyn | foetus: even if you need libfam only for compiling you would need fam at runtime |
| 10:07.02 | valdyn | foetus: even if you need only libfam(-dev) for compiling you would need fam at runtime |
| 10:07.51 | valdyn | foetus: gamin is a replacement that needs no portmap, but the debian kde devs seem to have figured that you cant use that with kde |
| 10:08.00 | hatter_au | my lenny ngome has the wrong keymap, how do i fix it ? |
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| 10:09.23 | foetus | valdyn: but i never had a running fam at boottime, and had full inotify under kde without famd..so libfam must be enough, normally.. |
| 10:09.24 | valdyn | hatter_au: just for gnome thats gnome-keyboard-properties |
| 10:09.52 | foetus | valdyn: yes, gamin is useless in this way. |
| 10:10.44 | valdyn | foetus: kdelibs4c2a depends on fam |
| 10:12.37 | valdyn | foetus: read the description of kdelibs4c2a, that should explain it all |
| 10:13.01 | foetus | valdyn: ah, will see, thanks.. |
| 10:13.23 | valdyn | and it doesnt depend on fam, it only Suggests: fam, perl-suid, ghostscript |
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| 10:16.07 | foetus | valdyn: why it is so difficult, to have full inotify support under desktops..it is all buildin into the kernel.. |
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| 10:16.28 | valdyn | foetus: it isnt |
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| 10:16.39 | valdyn | foetus: did you read the description? |
| 10:16.58 | foetus | valdyn: no, sorry.. |
| 10:17.16 | valdyn | foetus: fam has nothing to do with inotify |
| 10:17.33 | valdyn | foetus: fam is just used where inotify is not available |
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| 10:22.31 | foetus | valdyn: what a bag of info :)..i will prepare it without fam, i had no good memories without in the past..we will see, thanks for your help.. |
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| 10:34.54 | cadu | hello guys, i have debian installed in an old notebook (console only), when i installed it ive selected en_US.utf8 as LANG, everything runs fine but every app that uses NCURSES (mc/aptitude) has borked "graphics", any help? |
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| 10:39.40 | foetus | valdyn: foetus back -- i've seen, that kdelibs needs only libfam0, and the package kdelibs "suggests" only fam, so i think, that libfam and libfam-dev should be enough. |
| 10:40.22 | foetus | would be nice..i don't like fam too much |
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| 10:41.02 | foetus | its older than the hills :) |
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| 10:43.47 | blindy | how can i benchmark my raid5 array? |
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| 10:45.34 | cadu | blindy: "time dd if=/dev/zero of=somefileontheraid5array_directory bs=1M count=100" |
| 10:45.37 | cadu | ;) |
| 10:45.55 | bokey | does anyone use ejabberd on lenny here? |
| 10:45.59 | bokey | :p |
| 10:46.05 | cadu | that will write 100mB of zero to a file in the file, which will be written in the raid5 array |
| 10:46.25 | cadu | and will sort of give you the mean write speed :) |
| 10:46.40 | bokey | cadu: hi |
| 10:46.46 | cadu | bokey: hi |
| 10:46.57 | bokey | cadu: man i need to fix this jabber serv |
| 10:47.15 | bokey | cadu: maybe :) |
| 10:47.29 | WormFood | nsadmin, you still around? (I'm back now, but took longer than I expected) |
| 10:47.44 | bokey | cadu: me too |
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| 10:50.38 | tux91 | Hello everyone. Why do qt3 apps (specifically, virtualbox) look so ugly on lenny? Is there a way to fix this? |
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| 10:51.27 | bokey | tux91: change your theme lol |
| 10:51.58 | tux91 | bokey: where? |
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| 10:52.39 | bokey | tux91: kcontrol? |
| 10:52.54 | valdyn | blindy: run the production workload |
| 10:53.03 | WormFood | would I be correct in assuming grub (as packaged with debian) not support ext4? |
| 10:53.11 | WormFood | does not* |
| 10:53.18 | bokey | ext4 needs to go back to factory |
| 10:53.24 | tux91 | bokey: but it's gonna get all the kdelibs as well! |
| 10:53.28 | valdyn | WormFood: no grub supports ext4 |
| 10:53.28 | WormFood | which factory bokey? |
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| 10:53.58 | WormFood | 0.97? |
| 10:54.02 | valdyn | WormFood: you can however create ext4 filesystems with the extents feature disabled |
| 10:54.10 | valdyn | WormFood: those can be read by grub or grub2 |
| 10:54.23 | WormFood | that sorta defeats one of the main reasons to use ext4 |
| 10:54.39 | WormFood | however, there are versions of grub that DO support ext4 |
| 10:54.46 | bokey | tux91: sorry dude. i am out of time.. gotta run |
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| 10:54.55 | valdyn | WormFood: there are ? |
| 10:54.59 | valdyn | WormFood: where? |
| 10:55.04 | tux91 | bokey: well thanks anyway |
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| 10:55.26 | WormFood | http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub@gnu.org/msg11458.html |
| 10:55.37 | WormFood | http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-ext4/2008/10/18/3716214/thread |
| 10:55.50 | WormFood | there are 2 references for you valdyn |
| 10:56.23 | djace | I'm sending syslog messages from several machines to a central machine, how do I keep each machine's messages on a separate file? |
| 10:56.29 | valdyn | WormFood: yea, i saw that |
| 10:56.33 | valdyn | WormFood: i wouldnt use it |
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| 10:58.28 | WormFood | so, I'll probably end up putting /boot on an ext3 partition |
| 10:59.08 | valdyn | WormFood: mounting it with ext4 saves one driver used |
| 10:59.19 | valdyn | WormFood: not like that matters much either |
| 11:00.15 | valdyn | WormFood: i gues the grub version in experimental could be supporting ext4 extents, havent checked |
| 11:00.28 | WormFood | how do I get use of the full 4 gig of ram under Linux? |
| 11:00.44 | WormFood | without going to a 64 bit cpu |
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| 11:00.50 | WormFood | my 32 bit cpu supports PAE |
| 11:00.54 | WormFood | of course |
| 11:01.04 | cantido | WormFood: bigmem kernel I think |
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| 11:01.20 | WormFood | so I do have to update the kernel then? |
| 11:01.24 | cantido | WormFood: but you don't say what cpu... there are lots you know |
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| 11:01.35 | valdyn | WormFood: it depends |
| 11:01.35 | WormFood | Q6600 |
| 11:01.46 | cantido | so its x86 |
| 11:01.52 | valdyn | WormFood: the default kernels support 4GB minus whatever your pci devices occupy |
| 11:02.00 | WormFood | I compile my own kernel, because the maintainers broke my wireless card in the debian kernel |
| 11:02.04 | valdyn | WormFood: that could be 3.5G and it could be preferable to slow pae |
| 11:02.31 | WormFood | I don't know why pci is sucking up one gig of address space, because that is what it is doing |
| 11:02.52 | cantido | WormFood: Because you might have a gig of memory mapped devices |
| 11:03.04 | WormFood | shouldn't be that much, but I'll check it out |
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| 11:03.18 | WormFood | sorta a waste of ram to suck up 1/4 of my address space with pci |
| 11:03.18 | flower | my root disk is full... what are ways to clean it up? clean install or are there other tools? |
| 11:03.26 | cantido | WormFood: Some bios allow you to configure it, some just use some predefined value |
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| 11:03.44 | valdyn | WormFood: CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G you would have to set |
| 11:03.57 | WormFood | flower, try apt-get autoremove |
| 11:04.06 | tux91 | flower: apt-get clean |
| 11:04.10 | WormFood | also "clean" and "autoclean" |
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| 11:04.30 | cantido | WormFood: If his root is full how does he install autoremove? |
| 11:04.49 | WormFood | cantido, it is an option for apt-get |
| 11:05.01 | WormFood | you don't know the syntax for apt-get? |
| 11:05.07 | cantido | oh, apt has that now |
| 11:05.16 | cantido | been using aptitude too long |
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| 11:05.32 | flower | what is an command for aptitiude autoremove? |
| 11:05.43 | cantido | flower: aptitude just does it |
| 11:05.46 | WormFood | yeah, perhaps you should read the man page before trying to make someone else look dumb :P |
| 11:06.19 | WormFood | flower, also, check your temp directory and log files...some programs have excessive logging |
| 11:06.30 | cantido | wasnt trying to make anyone look "dumb". Don't be paranoid. |
| 11:06.51 | WormFood | cantido, you jumped on my case, suggesting I don't know what I'm suggesting he do |
| 11:07.25 | WormFood | in either case, perhaps you should read the man page before "correcting" someone else :P |
| 11:07.34 | cantido | WormFood: no, I misread that line and thought I saw apt-get install autoremove |
| 11:07.45 | WormFood | ooohhh....you didn't say that :P |
| 11:07.54 | flower | WormFood: where can I find those log files? |
| 11:08.03 | WormFood | that is ok...I misread things too....but I correct myself after I say something I realize is dumb :P |
| 11:08.16 | WormFood | flower, /var/log |
| 11:08.32 | flower | ok, doesn't harm to remove those files? |
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| 11:08.46 | WormFood | flower, the log files probably won't help much, as they are most likely small....but, check |
| 11:08.55 | WormFood | do a "du -sh /var/log/ |
| 11:09.03 | WormFood | and see how much space they are taking up |
| 11:09.26 | WormFood | as far as deleting them, if you don't care about the logs, I suggest you do a "rm /var/log/*.gz" |
| 11:09.33 | flower | 232M |
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| 11:09.56 | WormFood | I suggest against deleting all of them, as deleting some of them will remove them from the directory, but not actually free up space |
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| 11:10.31 | WormFood | flower, that is quite a bit, and when you have 0 space left, that can help....just do "rm /var/log/*.gz", then "du -sh /var/log/" and see how much space it takes up |
| 11:10.42 | WormFood | and, of course "df -h" to see how much space you have now |
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| 11:12.19 | flower | doesn't clean up anything |
| 11:12.29 | WormFood | flower, check out /tmp....it MAY be safe to delete SOME things there....if you're unsure, don't delete anything from /tmp |
| 11:12.46 | flower | mmh maybe just an clean install |
| 11:12.48 | WormFood | did you do "apt-get clean", and "apt-get autoclean"? |
| 11:12.54 | flower | yes |
| 11:13.01 | WormFood | and that didn't clean up anything? |
| 11:13.03 | flower | I have a little space now |
| 11:13.27 | flower | but to little to be able to use Debian satisfied |
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| 11:13.49 | WormFood | how big is your partition? |
| 11:13.55 | flower | 19 gig |
| 11:14.00 | flower | :) |
| 11:14.03 | WormFood | also, if you installed anything from source, you can delete the source code directories |
| 11:14.21 | flower | WormFood: done that |
| 11:14.22 | WormFood | 19 gig....how cute |
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| 11:14.47 | WormFood | I got my entire system I'm using now, squeezed into a 40 gig partition, and it is very cramped |
| 11:14.59 | flower | back in the days 6 gig was enough for me |
| 11:15.04 | WormFood | I'm trying like hell to get my 1500 gig hard drive setup |
| 11:15.14 | flower | you use 40 gig for root? |
| 11:15.33 | WormFood | my first hard drive was big for its day, and it was 40 MEG...and my 2nd hard drive was huge, at 70 meg |
| 11:15.57 | WormFood | I remember thinking I was soooo cool, because I had over 1/10th of a gig |
| 11:15.58 | DarkUranium | heh, I still have a few 4 meg (or so) HDs somewhere |
| 11:16.08 | WormFood | 4 meg, or 4 gig? |
| 11:16.12 | DarkUranium | 4 gig too |
| 11:16.26 | WormFood | I still have a 10 meg hard drive at home....ST-412/506 interface |
| 11:16.27 | DarkUranium | but I actually use the 4 gig ones :P |
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| 11:16.38 | WormFood | I actually use 600 meg hard drives |
| 11:16.44 | valdyn | flower: if you got a live cd you can resize and move those partitions |
| 11:16.52 | WormFood | I used to have linux squeezed onto a 40 meg hard drive....and actually used the system |
| 11:16.56 | DarkUranium | I don't have 600 meg ones anywhere... I do have 1 gig HD somewhere, but I dunno where |
| 11:17.29 | DarkUranium | well, Damn Small Linux is pretty close to that, and it's usable :) |
| 11:17.36 | valdyn | flower: what does "du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives" show? |
| 11:17.39 | WormFood | my mom's old computer, had a 5 1/2" full height 1 gig hard drive....that fucker is built like a tank...well over 10 years old, and still going strong |
| 11:17.41 | cantido | had an os, tcpip stack, graphical environment, etc etc on two 880k floppies |
| 11:17.47 | DarkUranium | the floppy drive distros are small, yes, but not really that usable |
| 11:17.58 | flower | valdyn: 160K /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 11:18.04 | DarkUranium | brb |
| 11:18.23 | WormFood | cantido, I can beat that |
| 11:18.33 | flower | valdyn: do you need an live cd or can I just use gparted? |
| 11:18.39 | WormFood | how about os, tcpip stack, and GUI in....128k? |
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| 11:18.40 | valdyn | flower: 19G is plenty for /, whered you put all that stuff? |
| 11:18.41 | flower | valdyn: i ve gparted installed |
| 11:18.52 | WormFood | and 64k of ram |
| 11:18.56 | valdyn | flower: gparted is fine, but it cannot work with your live / |
| 11:18.59 | cantido | WormFood: did it actually do anything? |
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| 11:19.02 | WormFood | or was it 32k of ram? I forget |
| 11:19.06 | WormFood | cantido, yes, actually it did |
| 11:19.15 | WormFood | let me find you the url |
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| 11:19.18 | cantido | WormFood: you can run wings or something on c64, but its next to useless |
| 11:19.44 | WormFood | http://www.sics.se/contiki/ |
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| 11:20.05 | cantido | WormFood: ah, same sort of thing, practically useless ;) |
| 11:20.10 | WormFood | not at all |
| 11:20.17 | WormFood | it can run on the C64 |
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| 11:20.22 | WormFood | but that is not what it was designed for |
| 11:20.29 | WormFood | it is designed for embedded systems |
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| 11:20.52 | WormFood | now, I happen to program embedded systems, and for some users, that would be nice to have (a GUI) |
| 11:20.56 | flower | valdyn: dunno I use a lot of multimedia apps... and build it myself often... and use a debian testing/sid system... changed from kde3.5.9 to kde 4.2 ..... played with building an live cd, using apt-cacher.... build some packages with pbuilder.... |
| 11:21.20 | cantido | WormFood: so you would know how painful it is doing tcp/ip on these things |
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| 11:21.27 | valdyn | flower: so you might want to have a look at the space your apt-cacher cache is taking |
| 11:21.36 | valdyn | flower: thats going to be huge |
| 11:21.42 | cantido | WormFood: unless you have a chip that does all of it, but those are expensive |
| 11:21.45 | valdyn | flower: your source code is not in / i assume |
| 11:21.53 | valdyn | flower: but apt-cacher might store in /var somewhere |
| 11:22.24 | WormFood | well, the painful part is the GUI |
| 11:22.25 | valdyn | flower: that would be an easy component to migrate to a different disk or partition or to not use at all |
| 11:22.30 | WormFood | doing tcp/ip is not all that hard |
| 11:22.49 | blindy | lets say some program outputs 5 lines, how do i take the last line and pipe it into another program? |
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| 11:22.56 | WormFood | I mean, I don't write the tcp/ip myself...I use an OS called "nut/os" originally for a board called an "ethernut" |
| 11:22.58 | valdyn | blindy: man tail |
| 11:23.06 | flower | valdyn: yeah thats almost 3 gig |
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| 11:23.17 | WormFood | blindy, someprogram | tail -n1 | someotherprogram |
| 11:23.18 | cantido | WormFood: IIRC the c64 actually has some "graphics" hardware. Writing a gui on the speccy would be painful |
| 11:23.32 | flower | valdyn: I think i remove it and stop using it |
| 11:23.49 | flower | valdyn: cause I don't build live cd's atm |
| 11:23.53 | valdyn | flower: waste of space when everything is already cached at /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 11:24.03 | WormFood | well, contiki runs on devices with no video output, and it does it by creating a virtual output, and accessing it with vnc |
| 11:24.07 | valdyn | flower: uh, that too |
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| 11:25.03 | flower | valdyn: it was handy when building a live cd all the time... |
| 11:25.07 | cantido | WormFood: then you have tcp/ip again. ;) |
| 11:25.22 | valdyn | flower: yea, i do use something like it |
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| 11:26.04 | flower | rm -r /var/cache/apt-cacher/* ? |
| 11:26.19 | valdyn | flower: yea |
| 11:26.46 | valdyn | flower: though that wont get dotfiles if theres any |
| 11:26.56 | valdyn | rm -r /var/cache/apt-cacher/ is better |
| 11:27.26 | flower | ah now 4 gig free almost :) |
| 11:27.33 | flower | thanks a lot! |
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| 11:33.30 | DarkUranium | hey, does anyone have Debian on MSI Wind U100? |
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| 11:33.39 | DarkUranium | or does anyone know if it installs and works properly? |
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| 11:40.24 | WormFood | is fdisk capable of automatically rearranging the partition order to be in disk order? |
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| 11:40.45 | WormFood | I could have sworn it did that for me before....but maybe I'm wrong |
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| 11:50.55 | tj0101 | omid8bimo: ping |
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| 11:51.37 | jelly-home | WormFood: that would be more a bug than a feature. |
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| 11:52.07 | WormFood | ok |
| 11:52.12 | jelly-home | WormFood: gparted does it; I've always considered it an annoyance |
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| 12:01.25 | jmut | hi how can I find out where dig tool is ? in which package I mean |
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| 12:03.27 | pngwn | !tell jmut -about search |
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| 12:06.25 | HSNews | People, how to install driver for my WiFi Card? in Notebook (ASUS A7Sv). |
| 12:06.42 | HSNews | In network I can't see ESSIDS of wifi APes |
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| 12:08.22 | WormFood | jmut, dnsutils |
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| 12:10.50 | jmut | WormFood: pngwn yep thanks. found it |
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| 12:13.11 | HSNews | people |
| 12:13.15 | HSNews | how to update drivers? |
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| 12:14.08 | HSNews | in System->Administation, I have ony 6 items: Login Window, Network, Services, Shared Folders, Time and Date, User and Groups |
| 12:14.11 | HSNews | and it all |
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| 12:17.04 | HSNews | HEEEEEELLLLOOOOOOOOOO |
| 12:17.15 | HSNews | 888 users! Can anybody help me? |
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| 12:18.00 | cahoot | HSNews: using debian? what 'drivers' ? |
| 12:18.12 | jintxo | HSNews, you don't usually "update drivers" in linux because your drivers go with your kernel version in most cases. please make a smarter question (what exactly do you want to do) and you may get an answer |
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| 12:21.14 | a-atwood1 | HSNews: if the drivers were distributed with debian, then "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get safe-upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 12:22.49 | HSNews | okay.. |
| 12:22.53 | project2501a | apt-get install blue-oyster-cult |
| 12:23.10 | project2501a | apt-get install stairway-to-heaven |
| 12:24.05 | aidehua | My negatives aren't very dense. Have I over or under agitated during development? |
| 12:24.46 | cahoot | underexposed? |
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| 12:25.45 | lxsameer | how can i compile a small part of kernel only? for example xfs driver only |
| 12:25.51 | aidehua | cahoot: Possibly, but I switched from my Pentax Spotmatic to a Canon EOS 30, which calculates the exposure automatically, and I still see rather un-dense negatives :/ |
| 12:26.37 | cahoot | aidehua: spotmatic - that evokes memories och the 70's |
| 12:26.46 | cahoot | s/och/of/ |
| 12:26.55 | aidehua | To be precise, if you're interested, it's an Asahi Pentax SP-1000 :) |
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| 12:28.42 | WormFood | can anyone point me to an unofficial sid install cd? (I know, there is no official sid installer) |
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| 12:28.59 | jelly-home | WormFood: there is none |
| 12:29.16 | cahoot | sounds like sidux |
| 12:29.34 | WormFood | don't give me that bullshit! I know there is one...I've seen it before (on the web) |
| 12:29.41 | jelly-home | WormFood: just use the daily installer build or even stable, then upgrade |
| 12:29.56 | WormFood | I don't want to, I want to install straight to sid |
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| 12:30.09 | WormFood | thanks anyways....I'll do that as a last resort |
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| 12:33.37 | zer0c00l | when i tried to mount my drives from nautilus as a normal user it says "You are not privileged to mount the drive" how could i configure so that normal user can mount/read/write in disk (i am using lenny) |
| 12:34.17 | JyZyXEL | whats the bluetooth class number for a mobile phone? |
| 12:34.20 | JyZyXEL | 0x080100 is computer |
| 12:35.16 | WormFood | zer0c00l, /etc/fstab |
| 12:35.36 | zer0c00l | WordFood: Hal wont auto mount ? |
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| 12:35.50 | WormFood | wordfood? |
| 12:35.53 | jintxo | zer0c00l, dpends on the disk (Are they USB external) but see if you are in the groups cdrom, plugdev and floppy |
| 12:35.56 | zer0c00l | I just finished the debian installation |
| 12:36.14 | zer0c00l | sorry WormFood :D |
| 12:36.19 | WormFood | zer0c00l, you know, most irc clients can auto-complete the name |
| 12:36.20 | WormFood | ? |
| 12:36.33 | WormFood | I don't know about hal, I always manually mount my drives |
| 12:36.47 | zer0c00l | ok WormFood |
| 12:36.56 | zer0c00l | yes it autocompletes :-) |
| 12:37.03 | WormFood | but read mount manpage for options, and add the options you want to /etc/fstab |
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| 12:37.21 | zer0c00l | jintxo:they are not external drives |
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| 12:37.46 | WormFood | even external drives do not matter, just add them to fstab if you want non-root user to be able to mount them |
| 12:37.47 | jintxo | zer0c00l, check out the groups anyways |
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| 12:38.19 | WormFood | yes, groups too....add your user to the 'disk' group |
| 12:38.21 | zer0c00l | ok |
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| 12:38.28 | WormFood | and/or cdrom group |
| 12:38.57 | WormFood | but, really, my experience has been, the groups don't help |
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| 12:39.07 | WormFood | not as far as mounting goes |
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| 12:39.25 | WormFood | the groups will let you read/write to the raw device....but don't think it will do much else for you |
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| 12:40.17 | Pillz | any idea why after running "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::"--force-confmiss" reinstall xserver-xorg-core" AND "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" my /etc/x11/xorg.conf is empty.....? |
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| 12:40.47 | zer0c00l | WormFood, how could i add a user to a group "I am checking "users and groups" there is no cdrom group or disk group |
| 12:40.50 | zer0c00l | :( |
| 12:41.12 | WormFood | look at /etc/group |
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| 12:41.31 | WormFood | for example, mine says "disk:x:6:wormfood" |
| 12:41.57 | WormFood | the format is group:password:gid:usernames in that group |
| 12:42.15 | daredake | how to remake all configuration files while reinstalling packages? |
| 12:42.41 | zer0c00l | ok |
| 12:42.52 | WormFood | BUT, like I said, that won't help you |
| 12:42.59 | WormFood | I mean, it won't help with what you're trying to do |
| 12:43.05 | zer0c00l | yes |
| 12:43.05 | jelly-home | WormFood: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#Q.3AHowcanIinstallsid.28unstable.29withDebianInstaller.3F |
| 12:43.09 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 12:43.09 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 12:43.11 | valdyn | daredake: ^^ |
| 12:43.30 | daredake | thanks |
| 12:43.41 | zer0c00l | yes i will use /etc/fstab |
| 12:43.49 | Pillz | valdyn - " |
| 12:43.58 | Pillz | --force-confmiss" stays in brackets? |
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| 12:46.23 | valdyn | Pillz: yes |
| 12:46.40 | WormFood | thanks jelly-home, I had seen that before, but trying to figure it out |
| 12:47.44 | Pillz | k, so, any idea why it didn't work for me? >> |
| 12:48.37 | valdyn | Pillz: wrong package |
| 12:48.57 | Pillz | eh v.v what would the x package be then? |
| 12:49.15 | valdyn | Pillz: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty by default |
| 12:49.26 | valdyn | Pillz: reinstalling that one is pointless |
| 12:49.43 | Pillz | "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" didn't work either |
| 12:49.59 | valdyn | Pillz: its working as intended |
| 12:50.05 | Pillz | hmm |
| 12:50.15 | Pillz | so what would i do to generate an xorg.conf |
| 12:50.17 | valdyn | Pillz: why do you want to fill up xorg.conf with cruft? |
| 12:50.27 | valdyn | Pillz: to what end? |
| 12:50.32 | Pillz | because X displays nothing for me? |
| 12:50.40 | Pillz | I get a black, sometimes flickery screen.. |
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| 12:50.51 | valdyn | Pillz: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 12:51.18 | valdyn | Pillz: or paste it on a paste site to get help with that |
| 12:51.21 | noppe | when can one expect radeonhd 1.2.4 in squeeze? |
| 12:51.29 | valdyn | noppe: when its ready |
| 12:52.17 | noppe | valdyn: really? why is it not ready yet |
| 12:52.23 | Pillz | waldyn - And how do i do that from the command line =\ |
| 12:52.29 | Pillz | **valdyn |
| 12:52.32 | valdyn | noppe: and because its only in experimental atm thats more than 10 days definitely |
| 12:52.44 | valdyn | !pastewithoutx |
| 12:52.44 | dpkg | Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe> |
| 12:53.34 | Pillz | hmm |
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| 12:53.50 | noppe | valdyn: it's been in exp for quite some time though, hasn't it |
| 12:54.09 | valdyn | noppe: im not tracking it |
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| 12:55.53 | webmind | good day |
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| 12:56.32 | HSNews | how to setup archive mirroring? |
| 12:56.58 | webmind | is running sid, and /etc/init.d/cryptdisks complains that it cannot find '/sbin/udevsettle'. This somewhat makes sense, I don't have it and dpkg -L udev doesn't list it. |
| 12:57.01 | webmind | but. |
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| 12:57.16 | webmind | packages.debian.org does list it as being available in udev in sid. |
| 12:57.26 | webmind | anyone can help me out with trying to fix this? |
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| 12:57.58 | man_in_shack | waves |
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| 12:58.54 | man_in_shack | i want to produce a -dbg package for debugging symbols, but all the symbols include absolute paths to where i built the source, and not where it would get installed via the package manager |
| 12:59.00 | man_in_shack | anyone know of a way around this? |
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| 13:05.45 | valdyn | webmind: thats sid, it got a new udev, now that broke cryptsetup |
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| 13:05.49 | valdyn | webmind: you shouldnt be using sid |
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| 13:08.35 | skx | I have added the multimedia repository but still can't install mencoder |
| 13:08.40 | skx | it is unavailable |
| 13:08.43 | skx | http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/mencoder.php |
| 13:08.55 | valdyn | judd: versions mencoder |
| 13:08.56 | judd | valdyn: mencoder -- etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1 lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1 sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20090316-0.1 |
| 13:09.11 | valdyn | skx: forgot to run aptitude update ? |
| 13:09.20 | skx | that may be |
| 13:09.40 | webmind | valdyn, why not? |
| 13:09.52 | valdyn | !sid faq |
| 13:09.52 | dpkg | http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html or http://weda.mine.nu/sidfaq.html (mirror), it doesn't hurt if you read the FAQ, even if you are using testing/lenny... |
| 13:09.58 | webmind | valdyn, sid is public, so asume it's for testing. |
| 13:10.03 | webmind | public testing |
| 13:10.09 | valdyn | webmind: but not for asking for support in here |
| 13:10.23 | webmind | valdyn, ah, that would be a proberty of the channel then. |
| 13:10.27 | webmind | *property |
| 13:10.36 | valdyn | webmind: true |
| 13:10.44 | webmind | I'll ask help elsewhere then. |
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| 13:13.59 | daniel2 | Anyone ever gotten weird video effects with avi videos on vlc, mplayer, any of that? |
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| 13:19.36 | Thomaschaaf | hey guys trying to run a lenny as a guest on xen how much swap do I need? |
| 13:19.48 | Thomaschaaf | will give it 1Gb of Ram |
| 13:19.57 | cantido | Thomaschaaf: depends on what apps you're going to run |
| 13:19.59 | HSNews | People!!!! How to instal iwlwifi fir Debian Lenny? |
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| 13:20.22 | cantido | HSNews: Have!! you!! googled!! it!! |
| 13:20.25 | Thomaschaaf | cantido: will be a development webserver |
| 13:20.43 | HSNews | cantido: I google it, but in instuction I have errors about kernel |
| 13:20.51 | Thomaschaaf | cantido: running apache, mysql, svn, vpn |
| 13:21.00 | cantido | Thomaschaaf: a small amount of swap will do then, gig or so |
| 13:21.01 | Thomaschaaf | vpn and svn as clients |
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| 13:21.03 | HSNews | about kernel version, And I can't 'make' and 'make install' it ((( |
| 13:21.09 | HSNews | I don't know what to do |
| 13:21.14 | cantido | HSNews: have you checked the debian wiki |
| 13:21.17 | Thomaschaaf | cantido: when will I need more? |
| 13:21.50 | cantido | Thomaschaaf: when you have applications that require a large amount of memory |
| 13:22.10 | Thomaschaaf | cantido: can you name some examples? |
| 13:22.31 | cantido | Thomaschaaf: I have a JVM on a machine thats has a 8GB heap |
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| 13:23.15 | cantido | Thomaschaaf: so sometimes it uses all the real memory and other stuff needs swapping out so that it doesnt all fall apart |
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| 13:23.57 | cantido | Thomaschaaf: the rule used to be swap is twice real memory, but real memory is cheap these days |
| 13:24.53 | Thomaschaaf | since its a xen serevr there us bi real memory :D |
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| 13:28.08 | Thomaschaaf | cantido: thanks very much can I press on any ads for you :P |
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| 13:30.56 | HSNews_ | ÑеÑÑинг |
| 13:31.06 | HSNews_ | ÑеÑÑ |
| 13:31.24 | HSNews_ | how I can change codepage in Kopete? |
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| 13:32.18 | wekt | If "apt-get install" tells me something like "Depends: libept0 (>= 0.5.22) but it is not going to be installed", how can I find out the reason for refusal? Is it documented some place? I have already looked in the Debian Reference. |
| 13:32.35 | wekt | HSNews: kcontrol center : regional settings |
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| 13:33.05 | cantido | HSNews: or change your local settings.. LC_CTYPE etc |
| 13:33.28 | wekt | HSNews: although I think it does not let you choose it explicitly: it is implied by the region you choose. |
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| 13:33.38 | petemc | wekt: aptitude why-not foo |
| 13:33.52 | mm666 | Hello |
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| 13:33.58 | mm666 | If I want to ask about wine help |
| 13:34.01 | mm666 | where should I ask? |
| 13:34.06 | wekt | petemc: that would probably work great except the package that won't install is 'aptitude' |
| 13:34.44 | petemc | oh |
| 13:34.50 | petemc | what version of debian? |
| 13:35.38 | wekt | petemc: experimental. If I downgrade apt &/or some of its depends, I can install aptitude, but i don't know what I need to downgrade. |
| 13:36.25 | petemc | does the fact you're using packages from experimental not answer your question? |
| 13:37.16 | wekt | You answered my question. I should have qualified it with "without using aptitude". |
| 13:37.20 | Arrowmaster | experimental will seriously break if you run everything from it |
| 13:37.33 | Arrowmaster | theres packages in experimental that are older than sid |
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| 13:37.59 | wekt | This is the best setup I've had so far. KDE4 works best this way. Other things don't work with IP6 in older versions. |
| 13:38.06 | HSNews_ | ÑеÑÑинг |
| 13:38.43 | Arrowmaster | just use sid instead of expreimental |
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| 13:39.52 | wekt | I don't want to go back -- at least not completely. :-) I'm most happy with experimental. Last I tried, KDE in sid was too old and was deficient. |
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| 13:40.09 | Arrowmaster | thats not possible |
| 13:40.40 | HSNews_ | people, I read in Debian Wiki (about iwlwifi): You will need to add non-free repository to /etc/apt/source.list |
| 13:40.42 | Arrowmaster | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kde |
| 13:40.58 | HSNews_ | what I need to do? |
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| 13:41.39 | wekt | Last I tried was 2 weeks ago or so. I may check again. Sid was held up it seems to be able to feed things to testing. so flow of packages were backed up in experimental. But I'll check on versions in Sid to see if it is sufficient now. then I can set my target distro as unstable. |
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| 13:42.08 | hark | HSNews_: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 13:42.12 | Arrowmaster | sid and lenny have the same version in a lot of those |
| 13:42.35 | HSNews_ | hark: thanks |
| 13:42.39 | wekt | Arrowmaster: the package for kde4 is not kde, but kde4 |
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| 13:43.02 | tompaw | hello |
| 13:43.10 | HSNews_ | hark: I try in console: dpkg non-free sources |
| 13:43.19 | HSNews_ | but I've got instructions |
| 13:43.22 | wekt | Arrowmaster: or kde4-minimal for better chance of success |
| 13:43.35 | hark | HSNews_: no, here. it's an irc command |
| 13:43.39 | Arrowmaster | wekt: ok i see most of that is all just in experimental, but still you shouldnt run the rest of the system on experimental |
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| 13:43.43 | HSNews_ | oh.. thanks |
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| 13:44.32 | wekt | I guess I'll look into pinning kde4 to experimental and the rest to unstable. |
| 13:44.54 | sepult | wekt: good luck with it |
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| 13:45.18 | sepult | wekt: i couldn't manage that last time i tried |
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| 13:48.48 | Nikke | Hey, ive been using gnome for a while now, but im new to debian.. i binded some keys to change workspace, and then i just take a window with alt + mouse1 then click the workspace key and the window will be moved... how do i do that in debians gnome? |
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| 13:50.01 | HSNews_ | People, where I can get list of non-free sources for Lenny? |
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| 13:51.48 | wekt | http://www.apt-get.org/ various repositories |
| 13:52.05 | HSNews_ | I have 'Password type' only WEP :( How I can get WPA/WPA2? :( |
| 13:52.11 | HSNews_ | wekt: thanks |
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| 13:54.36 | aRahim | hello |
| 13:54.45 | RandomTask | hello can some one tell me how to bump up the number of files a user can open? ulimit -a is showing 1024 |
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| 13:55.11 | aRahim | i have a question regarding installing KDE4.2 in Sid |
| 13:55.30 | aRahim | which repo should i enable so that i can do dist-upgrade from lenny |
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| 13:56.15 | aRahim | currently i have enable sid main repo & experimental repo |
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| 14:00.36 | aRahim_ | sorry was disconnected |
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| 14:01.05 | aRahim_ | question regarding kde 4.2 in lenny |
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| 14:01.44 | HSNews_ | how i can output information about disks? (free space and other..) |
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| 14:01.49 | HSNews_ | in console |
| 14:01.56 | asg|nb | HSNews_: df |
| 14:02.09 | asg|nb | also, fdisk and cfdisk |
| 14:02.09 | HSNews_ | asg|nb: thanks! |
| 14:03.39 | HSNews_ | asg|nb: thank you |
| 14:03.40 | aRahim_ | how to upgrade lenny to sid and install kde 4.2 |
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| 14:04.26 | maligor | sid doesn't have kde 4.2 actually |
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| 14:04.53 | maligor | it's in experimental |
| 14:05.11 | maligor | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html |
| 14:05.35 | maligor | if you want to use sid, you should first be familiar enough on how to recover your system when a system package breaks tho |
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| 14:05.52 | sobersabre | hi people. |
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| 14:05.59 | aRahim_ | ok |
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| 14:06.16 | aRahim_ | should i enable sid repo and experimental together |
| 14:06.17 | sobersabre | I have a Q. |
| 14:06.27 | Dillizar | i am not a sudoers file or smt like that i dont understand what i need to do so my sudo can work |
| 14:06.36 | sobersabre | I want to post timestamps to some activity start/stops. |
| 14:06.42 | wekt | aRahim: you must |
| 14:06.42 | Dillizar | sobersabre: i hive high |
| 14:06.45 | Dillizar | :D |
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| 14:06.56 | Dillizar | *have |
| 14:07.02 | aRahim_ | wekt: ok |
| 14:07.06 | sobersabre | The posts should actually do something like http POST of some method. |
| 14:07.26 | aRahim_ | another silly one, should i enable lenny repo too |
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| 14:07.38 | wekt | aRahim: no |
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| 14:07.46 | sobersabre | I wonder if there's a tool to create quickly a GUI app which only asks you for URL, name of a button, and the button, and hooks a script to the button. |
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| 14:07.57 | sobersabre | or do I have to write that app by myself. |
| 14:08.04 | aRahim_ | wekt: thanks will try |
| 14:08.22 | sobersabre | it should be trivial, but still, I prefer a ready to use customizable tool somebody's thought about, instead of reinventing the wheel. |
| 14:08.29 | valdyn | gtkdialog - GUI-creation command-line utility based on GTK+ library |
| 14:08.35 | kamp2tux | how do i grant normal users with read/write permission onto the newly formatted external USB harddrive with Ext3 filesystem ? |
| 14:08.40 | sobersabre | valdyn: hmmm ok. |
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| 14:08.51 | sobersabre | good idea. |
| 14:08.52 | sobersabre | thanks. |
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| 14:09.04 | wekt | kamp2tux: group plugdev is for hal, right guys? |
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| 14:09.16 | valdyn | kamp2tux: plugdev is just for mounting |
| 14:09.26 | wekt | kamp2tux: can probably use through hal |
| 14:09.35 | wekt | kamp2tux: use hal through desktop |
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| 14:10.01 | kamp2tux | wekt, what is "hal" ? |
| 14:10.05 | valdyn | kamp2tux: you mount it with a suitable umask |
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| 14:10.41 | sobersabre | valdyn: do you think I'd be able to make a dialog with say 3 pairs of buttons: start-activity 1, stop activity 1, etc. ? |
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| 14:11.23 | wekt | wekt: HAL is hardware access layer. Daemon to coordinate access to devices. Users who are members of the group allowed to use HAL (I forget which group that is) can use HAL clients to access the devices. Both gnome and KDE use hal. |
| 14:11.54 | valdyn | sobersabre: you can create any complex gui with it |
| 14:12.17 | sobersabre | valdyn: I am now referring to the examples, it sounds EXACTLY what I needed!!! |
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| 14:12.26 | sobersabre | thanks, man. |
| 14:13.17 | wekt | dpkg: HAL is Hardware Abstraction Layer |
| 14:13.17 | dpkg | ...but hal is already something else... |
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| 14:13.24 | wekt | dpkg: what is hal? |
| 14:13.26 | dpkg | wekt: what are you talking about? |
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| 14:13.57 | valdyn | !hal |
| 14:13.57 | dpkg | i guess hal is a Hardware Abstraction Layer from freedesktop.org, which gives desktop software a programmatic way to examine the hardware present in a system and be notified of its changes. |
| 14:14.25 | sobersabre | ok, I'm off harnessing gtkdialog |
| 14:14.27 | sobersabre | :) |
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| 14:16.14 | ikanobori | Someone got some extensive experience in Cacti? |
| 14:16.22 | ikanobori | I've run into a mad problem. |
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| 14:18.59 | GNU\colossus | hi all, which package do I find `dig` (the DNS lookup tool) in on Debian 5.0? |
| 14:19.34 | patrikf | !pdo |
| 14:19.34 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 14:19.43 | Maulkin | !search |
| 14:19.43 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt, or <bot help> |
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| 14:20.27 | aRahim_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 14:20.29 | aRahim_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:20.43 | GNU\colossus | Maulkin: I'm using apt-cache to look for it. no luck though. |
| 14:21.04 | debianuser1 | hi |
| 14:21.04 | Maulkin | GNU\colossus: try the others :) |
| 14:21.15 | Eulex | aRahim_, are you running unstable? |
| 14:21.15 | aRahim_ | wekt: i have these 2 repo enabled eb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 14:21.17 | aRahim_ | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free |
| 14:21.21 | GNU\colossus | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dig&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all - no luck there, either |
| 14:21.28 | Eulex | !btssmite aRahim_ |
| 14:21.28 | dpkg | beats aRahim_ around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if aRahim_ is running testing or unstable |
| 14:21.36 | aRahim_ | Eulex: i just wanna use 4.2 |
| 14:21.36 | stew | aRahim_: yes, it looks like sid moved to libortp8 |
| 14:21.55 | Maulkin | GNU\colossus: you wanted the *bottom* box on there |
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| 14:22.09 | aRahim_ | Eulex: so |
| 14:22.16 | Maulkin | GNU\colossus: "Search the contents of packages" |
| 14:23.04 | wekt | aRahim_: Eulex's message is that you need to pay much attention to bugs.debian.org and apt-listbugs. |
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| 14:23.22 | aRahim_ | wekt: ok |
| 14:24.13 | ofl_ | do Linksys WRT110 54 work on linux ? |
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| 14:25.06 | XaeroOne | hi |
| 14:25.13 | Eulex | aRahim_, kopete in experimental appears to be broken. experimental is expected to break a little now and then, it contains software that the dds aren't even confident to put into unstable. |
| 14:25.27 | maligor | ofl_, that's a Router/AP, no? |
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| 14:26.18 | aRahim_ | Eulex: so i have installed 4.2-minimal but cant install the package kde4 |
| 14:26.31 | ofl_ | maligor, yes |
| 14:26.34 | XaeroOne | I installed the new kerenl 2.6.26 i386 kernel for lenny and when it boots up it shows number in [] brackets in front of each line when booting which was no happening with the old kernel, is that seconds? |
| 14:26.53 | maligor | ofl_, assuming if you mean a client system running linux can connect to it, the answer is most likely, yes |
| 14:27.16 | stew | aRahim_: that's not suprisign |
| 14:27.21 | stew | suprising* |
| 14:27.27 | Eulex | aRahim_, *shrug*, install the parts of it that you can install and be done. or figure out how to fix it. and/or file a bug report about it. you're supposed to be able to help yourself if you run unstable. |
| 14:27.52 | aRahim_ | Eulex: :) |
| 14:27.55 | maligor | ofl_, wireless card drivers on linux are a different matter tho |
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| 14:28.34 | ikanobori | Someone familiar with Cacti skipping data sources in it's cronjob? |
| 14:29.18 | ofl_ | maligor, May I buy it ? I mean Will it work ? |
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| 14:29.40 | maligor | ofl_, I don't see why it wouldn't |
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| 14:31.02 | debintel | hi! I can't find a solution for my problem. I have a intel GMA 500 over debian, but I can't configure the psb drivrer necesary to make it works (I used the ubuntu packages because debian don't have it). Any suggestion or antoher way to do it? I only like a good resoltuion: 1280x800 |
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| 14:31.38 | ofl_ | maligor, I asked it because I do not know whether it will work. |
| 14:32.26 | maligor | ofl_, I've never heard of an AP that would have issues with linux clients |
| 14:32.53 | maligor | I suppose there might be AP's that require Windows-only configuration software, but most use web interfaces |
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| 14:33.31 | maligor | with wireless the issue is usually the wifi-card drivers for linux, albeit it's gotten a lot better of recent |
| 14:33.43 | ofl_ | maligor, I see, thanks. |
| 14:34.06 | maligor | the protocols for routing data itself are pretty standardized |
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| 14:36.54 | smacnay | Any reason the app "Soundjuicer" extracts oggs to ".oga" rather than ".ogg"? |
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| 14:39.45 | aRahim_ | giys is this right way http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=kde42-on-debian-gnu-lenny |
| 14:39.58 | nayx | smacnay: oga is ogg audio and ogv is ogg video both are valid ogg formats |
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| 14:40.58 | smacnay | nayx, thanks - my wif'es sanz fuze player can play ogg files but can't see tham unless they are named with the .ogg extension |
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| 14:42.01 | nayx | smacnay: rename them! im sure you can define it in soundjuicers config somewhere |
| 14:42.07 | dob1 | hi, what is this error ? " -bash: relocation error: -bash: symbol _errno_location, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference" i can't connect to ssh to a pc, it's because the time changed today? |
| 14:42.52 | smacnay | nayx, already did. thanks. I had never seen the .oga extension before, that is all. I have been naming my ogg files as .ogg for years. It makes sense "a" for audio and "v" for video. |
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| 14:46.54 | XaeroOne | I installed the new kerenl 2.6.26 i386 kernel for lenny and when it boots up it shows number in [] brackets in front of each line when booting which was no happening with the old kernel, is that seconds? |
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| 14:49.28 | asg|nb_ | XaeroOne: yes, it helps determine the timing of the boot process and other things. |
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| 14:50.51 | XaeroOne | yes that's good, so when you install a new kernel you can also check if the kernel load faster, specially if you compile one |
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| 14:55.21 | _Wesley | Hi! can anyone tell me how I disable ipv6 on lenny? it seems to be diffrent then doing it on previous versions |
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| 14:57.05 | adb | !tell _Wesley about noipv6 |
| 14:57.42 | _Wesley | Ah, I indeed read that url adb |
| 14:58.06 | _Wesley | but it seems to be diffrent in then it was in 4.0 so I wasn't sure if this was the same way to go |
| 14:58.09 | adb | i prepared this on other channel , but you lest |
| 14:59.10 | adb | left* |
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| 15:01.06 | _Wesley | let's try and hope the machine boots back :~ |
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| 15:01.37 | Roland- | hey |
| 15:01.38 | Roland- | I have last message repeated 2 times in syslog, can I disable that? to show all messages even if they repeat? |
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| 15:02.01 | enouf | what? |
| 15:02.43 | enouf | Roland-: see /etc/sysctl.conf - see the line about kernel messages and 4 4 1 7 or whatever it is |
| 15:03.43 | Roland- | # Log all kernel messages to the console. |
| 15:04.03 | _Wesley | awesome adb! |
| 15:04.06 | enouf | asg|nb: the [] around the kernel ring buffer messages is plain stupid and useless |
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| 15:04.15 | _Wesley | this fixed the bad cksum's! and resolving is all nice and fast again :) |
| 15:04.49 | Thomaschaaf | hey guys for a company how would you manage the passwords? should I tape a piece of paper to the inside of the server? what alternatives are there? |
| 15:04.52 | enouf | if oneyou want timing of |
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| 15:05.10 | adb | _Wesley: nice to hear |
| 15:05.11 | asg|nb | enouf: there's probably a tweakable to turn it off but it doesn't bother me in any way |
| 15:05.13 | enouf | if one wants timing of boot process use bootchartd and bootlogd |
| 15:05.21 | enouf | and kernel printk params |
| 15:05.28 | enouf | there is' |
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| 15:05.39 | enouf | the printk.time= param |
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| 15:06.13 | enouf | otherwise - stop rebooting! :-P |
| 15:06.14 | enouf | ~$ uptime |
| 15:06.15 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:07.02 | orioni | hi there, i want to install 80 pc with windows xp using a multicast server in debian maybe with ghost . is that possible and how ? |
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| 15:07.11 | enouf | what? |
| 15:07.28 | enouf | ask ##windows |
| 15:07.54 | orioni | enouf: isnt that possible ? |
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| 15:08.10 | enouf | orioni: if you want to install Debian - and the hardware is basically all the same - see systemimager-* |
| 15:08.13 | orioni | s.th like vlc but this time for installing other pc-s |
| 15:08.26 | enouf | or something named very similar |
| 15:08.39 | hollywoodb | I've been informed that apt-get's autoremove is dangerous and often broken under sid... any truth to this? |
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| 15:09.08 | HSNews | I can't configure my WiFi card (Intel 4965). I have install firmware-iwlwifi package, but in Network Admin I haven't WAP/WAP2 password type :( And I don't know how to browse all accessed WiFi APes |
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| 15:09.46 | adb | wifi-radar ,,,, |
| 15:10.06 | HSNews | apt-get install wifi-radar? |
| 15:10.11 | enouf | fuck - it's not avail anymore? |
| 15:10.21 | adb | ssi ? |
| 15:10.21 | enouf | try bootcd as well as debootstrap options |
| 15:10.58 | orioni | what about flamethrower ? |
| 15:11.10 | orioni | would be possible to use that for installation purposes ? |
| 15:11.36 | enouf | orioni: crap - it/is was in Etch http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=systemimage |
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| 15:11.47 | enouf | i guess removed for who knows why |
| 15:12.11 | enouf | orioni: how about some firepoop - some people seem to swear by it |
| 15:12.27 | Eulex | flamethrower is in debian |
| 15:12.40 | orioni | Eulex: kosovo ? |
| 15:12.55 | enouf | !why is systemimager-common not in Lenny |
| 15:12.55 | dpkg | enouf: what are you talking about? |
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| 15:13.03 | Eulex | wha? no, my nick is unrelated to that. |
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| 15:13.14 | orioni | Eulex: ok :) |
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| 15:13.26 | enouf | dpkg: don't piss me off please - not today - thanks dear |
| 15:13.26 | dpkg | enouf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 15:13.43 | orioni | so all i need is to have a remote installation service that uses multicast |
| 15:13.56 | orioni | so i can do all the installation of my 80 pc in about 1-2 hours |
| 15:13.59 | enouf | multicast? as in mDNS? |
| 15:14.12 | enouf | omg .. welcome to Zeroconf hell |
| 15:14.25 | enouf | have fun with your avahi-shit |
| 15:14.31 | abrotman | fai |
| 15:14.51 | orioni | avahi is for dns i presume |
| 15:15.04 | enouf | !avahi-daemon |
| 15:15.08 | enouf | !avahi |
| 15:15.08 | dpkg | well, avahi is a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network. This means that you can plug your laptop or computer into a network and instantly be able to view other people who you can chat with, find printers to print to or find files being shared. |
| 15:15.11 | orioni | i want sth that serve as a remote installation server |
| 15:15.23 | HSNews | about WiFi-radar: what it is means: WPA Driver? |
| 15:15.28 | enouf | so network install? tftp booting? |
| 15:15.33 | enouf | PXE? |
| 15:15.34 | HSNews | which wpa driver it mean? |
| 15:15.48 | enouf | thin clients? or ... |
| 15:15.53 | Theoden | Linux Curmudgeon 2.6.29-theo.1 #1 SMP Sat Mar 28 19:21:02 PDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:15.53 | abrotman | !tell orioni about fai |
| 15:15.55 | abrotman | !tell orioni about ghost |
| 15:15.56 | orioni | yep , but not the usual way of installation (unicast) but multicast |
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| 15:16.06 | abrotman | !tell orioni about g4l |
| 15:16.16 | abrotman | oh jeez .. it's in there somewhere |
| 15:16.20 | enouf | casts doubt upon multi and uni all at once |
| 15:16.33 | enouf | !g4u |
| 15:16.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, g4u is ghost for unix, http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ |
| 15:16.46 | abrotman | i thouhgt it was g4l .. oh well |
| 15:16.54 | enouf | anotherone: there's both |
| 15:16.58 | enouf | one is $$$ |
| 15:17.02 | mavhc | g4l is a ripoff of g4u, say the g4u people |
| 15:17.06 | enouf | the u is FLOSS |
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| 15:17.19 | mavhc | don't recall any of them multicasting though |
| 15:17.31 | enouf | not you anotherone , i meant abrotman |
| 15:18.30 | enouf | someone needs some ice or some shout ... or a better fishing rod and reel ...with all this casting going on |
| 15:19.17 | abrotman | wonders if enouf needs a nap |
| 15:19.41 | enouf | knows abrotman: is way off ... |
| 15:19.54 | Roland- | I am making some tests and it seems like iptables ignore my reject commands |
| 15:19.58 | abrotman | we'll see |
| 15:20.11 | enouf | just woke up - and is loaded with too much baby batter :-P |
| 15:20.29 | abrotman | Roland-: did you read the iptables docs ? especially about the matching order? |
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| 15:20.39 | anotherone | enouf: * |
| 15:20.45 | enouf | ;-) |
| 15:20.53 | Roland- | no, where do I read that |
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| 15:21.00 | abrotman | !tell Roland- about iptables |
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| 15:21.42 | enouf | Roland-: the last rule in line might supercede prior lines - also see #iptables |
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| 15:22.23 | orioni | nope , no multicast |
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| 15:22.59 | enouf | !wb xingu |
| 15:22.59 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! xingu has returned! |
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| 15:23.57 | Roland- | hmz, yes I see reject in front but firewall is already set I need to post add some rules |
| 15:24.04 | Roland- | I cannot modify the firewall each time |
| 15:24.29 | enouf | firewall? what's that? |
| 15:25.24 | enouf | are you talking about AppArmor or somecrap like that - a frontend to iptables? what?! |
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| 15:26.06 | project2501a | fuck elvis |
| 15:26.26 | adb | ot |
| 15:26.32 | abrotman | apparmor isn't a frontend for iptables |
| 15:27.55 | anotherone | she whore bluuue vel-vet |
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| 15:28.56 | xingu | orioni: www.systemimager.org |
| 15:29.00 | godling | hi, is there a command I can pass to apt-get so it will get recommended packages as well? |
| 15:29.07 | enouf | abrotman: the apparmor reference was to flush out a possible *buntu user |
| 15:29.25 | abrotman | just ask him which kernel he has .. |
| 15:29.28 | godling | for example, I wanted to install build-essential but also want to grab the recommended stuff (documentation and stuff) |
| 15:29.30 | enouf | abrotman: you need a nap :-P |
| 15:29.36 | abrotman | you need brains |
| 15:29.44 | abrotman | godling: use aptitude instead |
| 15:29.53 | Thomaschaaf | is there a program which I can install on my backupserver and it will pull the data from a list of servers so it can back them up? |
| 15:30.07 | godling | abrotman: I sort of can't right now, I am using qemu and having a really weird curses problem |
| 15:30.13 | Thomaschaaf | I would want to do it via scp since I don't want to isntall an ftp server |
| 15:30.20 | godling | abrotman: it's only drawing on half my rxvt window. o_O |
| 15:30.27 | abrotman | godling: aptitude install build-essential .. you don't have ot use the curses stuff |
| 15:30.33 | godling | oh sweet |
| 15:30.40 | godling | and that will grab recommended stuff? |
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| 15:31.15 | abrotman | unless you've configured it not to |
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| 15:31.31 | godling | I'll find out. :D |
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| 15:31.48 | abrotman | godling: FWIW .. apt-get in lenny should isntall recommends |
| 15:31.56 | godling | I basically just downloaded someone's precompile qemu image and kernel |
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| 15:32.00 | godling | *precompiled |
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| 15:32.02 | godling | abrotman: thanks |
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| 15:32.22 | enouf | abrotman: you need meds |
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| 15:32.49 | abrotman | doesn't recall enouf going to medical school |
| 15:32.50 | tnp | hi guys, is there a way to increase the number of files open permitted for a certain user? |
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| 15:33.07 | tnp | ulimit -n xyz won't work |
| 15:33.18 | enouf | knows all types of apes .. real well |
| 15:33.24 | barbaros | hi all. after kernel update xserver was broken. I have nvidia graphics card. what should i do? |
| 15:33.38 | tnp | I need this to make sure the web container doesn't hit the limit |
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| 15:34.16 | abrotman | enouf: don't talk about your gf that way .. |
| 15:34.22 | enouf | tnp: look into linux containers in the newer kernels |
| 15:34.26 | abrotman | barbaros: reinstall your nvidia drivers |
| 15:34.46 | barbaros | from synaptic? |
| 15:34.50 | tnp | enouf: linux containers? |
| 15:35.01 | abrotman | barbaros: how did you install them the first time? |
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| 15:35.16 | enouf | abrotman: ok - you can stop being ridiculus now ... |
| 15:35.17 | abrotman | barbaros: and which version of debina is this ? |
| 15:35.21 | barbaros | i forgot. it was before lenny released |
| 15:35.27 | barbaros | lenny |
| 15:35.30 | abrotman | enouf: pot/kettle .. have a nice day |
| 15:35.41 | abrotman | barbaros: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 15:36.00 | Michele | how would u suggest I'd go about joining two partitions? someone suggested unionfs, but I haven't found a lot of info about this |
| 15:36.10 | barbaros | i found the drivers in synaptic for the new kernel |
| 15:36.13 | enouf | tnp: yeah - crap like this http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_28#head-0eef9a5d971c999f53a75b6113d196eb1d36a51f |
| 15:36.21 | module000 | Michele: do they have overlapping directory structures? |
| 15:36.40 | Roland- | I have last message repeated 2 times in syslog, can I disable that? to show all messages even if they repeat? |
| 15:36.44 | enouf | tnp: i'm not certain it's apropos for your situtation, but worth noting |
| 15:36.48 | HSNews | when I try to exec: wpa_supplicant, it output me an help |
| 15:36.52 | Michele | module000, I have a root partition and a /home partition to join into one |
| 15:36.55 | HSNews | but not driver list |
| 15:36.55 | HSNews | (( |
| 15:36.59 | tnp | enouf: thanks enouf i'll take a look |
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| 15:37.05 | godling | Michele: many people seem to like gparted |
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| 15:37.26 | module000 | Michele: if your root partition can handle the space of /home...copy /home to root, unmount home, then resize root to take over the old space /home had |
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| 15:37.48 | module000 | and godling is right, gparted has a liveCD to let you do it all |
| 15:37.54 | Michele | module000, all this from a live boot right? |
| 15:38.00 | module000 | Michele: yes |
| 15:38.18 | enouf | tnp: aother option is the numa=fake boot param for coarse memory management (google it - and /Documentation/x86/x86_64/boot-options.txt) .. or look into Virtualization is it suits the situation |
| 15:38.21 | Michele | module000, /home is 80% of the hd |
| 15:38.40 | module000 | Michele: in that case, you will probably want to merg root into home, not the other way around |
| 15:38.41 | barbaros | abrotman, thanks |
| 15:38.44 | enouf | tnp: the numa=fake requires 64bit CPU and userland, IIRC |
| 15:38.50 | jo4 | latest subversion is 1.6 according to their website.. debian repos says actually that i have the latest (1.4.2).. haven't upgraded to lenny yet, but is the repos just missing the newest or what's the deal? ;P |
| 15:38.55 | Michele | module000, that's a good idea |
| 15:38.59 | enouf | s/is/if |
| 15:38.59 | HSNews | How to install WiFi driver???? |
| 15:39.04 | HSNews | for WPA |
| 15:39.05 | HSNews | connection |
| 15:39.10 | abrotman | jo4: you're on lenny or not? |
| 15:39.12 | Michele | hadn't thought about that |
| 15:39.13 | HSNews | damn |
| 15:39.14 | abrotman | judd: versions svn |
| 15:39.14 | judd | abrotman: svn -- |
| 15:39.18 | abrotman | judd: versions subversion |
| 15:39.18 | judd | abrotman: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 sid: 1.5.6dfsg-1 squeeze: 1.5.6dfsg-1 |
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| 15:39.27 | jo4 | abrotman, no, not yet |
| 15:39.30 | Michele | module000, id probably have to reinstall grub afterwards right? |
| 15:39.42 | module000 | Michele: yep |
| 15:39.51 | abrotman | jo4: whatever version is in lenny will be in lenny, until something possible shows up at backports.org |
| 15:40.01 | enouf | tnp: UML (user mode linux) and vserver are possibilites, but those used shared RAM, so there's not total confinement in the sense that XEN or KVM offers (and maybe others) |
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| 15:40.12 | Michele | module000, chroot /proc and /dev first |
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| 15:40.35 | Michele | module000, and mount /proc and /dev first |
| 15:40.38 | enouf | er. .. not certain UML uses shared ... i forget now .. but vserver, and openvz do (IINM) |
| 15:40.41 | module000 | Michele: you got it ;] |
| 15:40.48 | Michele | module000, ive done this before |
| 15:41.05 | indSpike | openpercept: pm |
| 15:41.06 | Michele | module000, what about the join? |
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| 15:41.25 | Michele | module000, should I use gparted for this? |
| 15:41.28 | jo4 | abrotman, but does that mean that the 1.6 version will be added to the repos eventually or what does it mean? ;P |
| 15:41.32 | module000 | Michele: that's what I would use, their liveCD |
| 15:41.44 | abrotman | jo4: not officially for lenny .. but somewhere in debian i'm sure |
| 15:42.24 | Michele | module000, what if I wanted to use a command line thing? |
| 15:42.34 | jo4 | abrotman, ok, ty |
| 15:42.41 | module000 | Michele: you could use command-line parted i suppose |
| 15:42.54 | Michele | module000, oh ok :) |
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| 15:43.07 | tompaw | hello |
| 15:43.31 | tompaw | I've just installed debian on my notebook, and after the login gui it launches gnome, but it's impossible to click anything. |
| 15:43.37 | Michele | anyone now when gnome 2.26 will be available as a debian package? |
| 15:43.41 | tompaw | mouse cursor works, but eveyrthing else seems to be dead |
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| 15:43.57 | tompaw | it just blinks HDD/DVD leds from time to time |
| 15:44.06 | tompaw | any ideas what could be killing it? |
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| 15:45.37 | enouf | tompaw: what's xmodmap -ppk output - pastebin it |
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| 15:45.43 | module000 | tompaw: so it appears to be running, but you can't interact with it? |
| 15:45.59 | enouf | tompaw: also grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:46.09 | tompaw | enouf: the problem is, I can't. it doesn't respond to any input at all. |
| 15:46.16 | abrotman | Michele: http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.26-status.html |
| 15:46.20 | tompaw | module000: yes, by the sound of its fans I can tell the cpu load is 100% |
| 15:46.24 | enouf | tompaw: what did i say that was unclear? |
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| 15:47.44 | enouf | tompaw: if your CPU is pinned at 100% all the time you'll have extreme lag - total unresponsive system - so that might be your issue - do the keys on board work responsively? |
| 15:47.57 | tompaw | enouf: no. |
| 15:48.11 | enouf | tompaw: something is really wrong then |
| 15:48.18 | tompaw | it happens right after gnome's launched. |
| 15:48.22 | tompaw | login screen's fine. |
| 15:48.29 | enouf | tompaw: well stop gnome from launching |
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| 15:48.51 | enouf | easiest for you is /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 15:49.29 | enouf | then login to shell and run startx or your fav WM - see update-alternatives --config [tab][tab] choices for options |
| 15:49.37 | tompaw | ok |
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| 15:50.40 | tompaw | ok, got the console. |
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| 15:51.21 | enouf | tompaw: are you using a preserved /home from some other install? it's very possible your dotfiles or even specific gnome-session things are loading that shouldn't - but top/htop can help as well as ps and pstree -- create a new system user and try with gnome normally |
| 15:51.48 | tompaw | enouf: it's a 100% fresh install. |
| 15:52.02 | enouf | tompaw: in order to rule out /home/username/.dotfiles |
| 15:52.09 | tompaw | enouf: no EE's in Xorg.0.log |
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| 15:52.13 | levarnu | Just installed Lenny on an embedded device. I'm all googled out trying to find out why rsyslogd runs multiple processes using significant memory. Anyone here dealt with that? |
| 15:52.19 | enouf | not even SCREEN? |
| 15:52.22 | tompaw | the other command (xmodmap) requires X launched. |
| 15:52.32 | enouf | no shit |
| 15:52.38 | maligor | levarnu, use a different logger? |
| 15:52.40 | enouf | gnome requires X |
| 15:52.42 | tompaw | enouf: nope, there's only (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER |
| 15:52.57 | tompaw | enouf: didn't know xmodmap is a gnome command. |
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| 15:53.46 | enouf | righto .. ok - yes - that's to be ignored - but you said "no EE's in Xorg.0.log" .. but i didn't realize you knew what to look for - and thought perhaps you somehow grepped the wrong file .. gahj |
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| 15:54.08 | enouf | tompaw: xmodmap has nothing to do with gnome |
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| 15:54.13 | enouf | i never said it dud |
| 15:54.17 | enouf | did* |
| 15:54.46 | enouf | tompaw: ask someone else - i can't help you .. sorry |
| 15:54.56 | tompaw | ok. thanks. |
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| 15:56.44 | clancy | hi |
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| 15:56.55 | clancy | do you think debian is a good OS for a student's desktop? |
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| 15:57.29 | Chousuke | Depends on the student :) |
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| 15:57.48 | Maulkin | Chousuke: See debian-edu :) |
| 15:58.07 | Chousuke | Debian is certainly capable, but in the end it depends on what the user wants. |
| 15:58.36 | Maulkin | ie: www.skolelinux.org/ |
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| 16:00.11 | clancy | i think i will remove buntu because pulseaudio is horrible and suspend to ram doesn't work sometimes |
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| 16:00.51 | th0ger | I often wonder why installation (configuration) of packages can be so slow (on both fast and slow machines). I have low cpu+disk activity and unused memory. What's the bottleneck? |
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| 16:01.51 | Akuw | hi |
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| 16:02.11 | Akuw | i am using mozilla in Debian 5.0, but you tube videos look bad |
| 16:02.30 | ivanatwork | I installed debian on my external USB disk. It works but it's so slow... suggestions? Btw, USB 2.0 |
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| 16:03.29 | abrotman | Akuw: which flash are you using? |
| 16:04.05 | Akuw | default one |
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| 16:05.10 | module000 | ivanatwork: are you swapping on your usb disk? |
| 16:05.23 | Akuw | what i have to use? |
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| 16:05.51 | ivanatwork | module000, the swap partition? Yes, it's on the external disk |
| 16:06.08 | module000 | ivanatwork: swapping on an ext disk is killing your performance, if you have enough ram, don't use swap |
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| 16:07.20 | ivanatwork | module000, thank you! btw... yes, 4 GB RAM :D I'll do it ASAP |
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| 16:09.44 | Akuw | what i have to use? |
| 16:10.25 | mythomaniac | anyone know how one can recapture the unused swap space on an encrypted hd? |
| 16:10.46 | mythomaniac | make it part of the root partition, which is also encrypted? |
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| 16:20.00 | dec3pti0n | don't know what is going on but I got this lenny box that no matter what I try the time won't get correct |
| 16:20.20 | dec3pti0n | tried with ntpdate and also with date --set and nothing .. even rebooting it |
| 16:20.24 | jetscreamer | !ntp |
| 16:20.24 | dpkg | hmm... ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig or 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata', first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
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| 16:20.47 | jetscreamer | 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' maybe |
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| 16:21.05 | dec3pti0n | let me try that cause I've already tried ntp |
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| 16:22.25 | dec3pti0n | nope it's like 72 secs behind 0.pool |
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| 16:23.41 | abrotman | that might just be some drift |
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| 16:24.03 | dec3pti0n | yep |
| 16:24.36 | dec3pti0n | but how can I fix that cause my other box are in sync and this one can't get in sync probably due to a large offset |
| 16:24.46 | ivanatwork | module000, I removed the swap partition. Now, it is still slow but not too much. I installed Lenny + GNOME |
| 16:25.09 | dec3pti0n | ntpdate should have worked cause I know ntp won't if the offset is too large |
| 16:25.48 | abrotman | it can |
| 16:26.06 | dec3pti0n | I'll try it again |
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| 16:26.27 | xingu | ntpd will sync just fine if you pass the -g flag |
| 16:26.50 | xingu | the sooner ntpdate is nuked from orbit the better. |
| 16:27.15 | module000 | ivanatwork: glad to hear it spend it up, keep in mind your disk reads/writes will still be below par compared to a local disk |
| 16:27.25 | module000 | s/spend/sped |
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| 16:28.20 | ivanatwork | module000, so how can I "upgrade" my Lenny? What about using XFCE? |
| 16:28.33 | dec3pti0n | xingu, yeah no luck there iether |
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| 16:32.22 | xingu | dec3pti0n: pastebin the output from ntpdc -c sysinfo |
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| 16:35.04 | Akuw | what flash plug in i have to use in mozilla to see youtube |
| 16:35.05 | Akuw | ? |
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| 16:35.44 | Akuw | i have swfdec-mozilla |
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| 16:36.07 | gmap | im working on a debian setup. my localhost isnt working. Heres a screenshot of netstat http://i41.tinypic.com/2u8z94y.png |
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| 16:37.38 | dec3pti0n | xingu, finally got it it was a xen issue |
| 16:37.53 | dec3pti0n | xingu, had to echo 1 > /proc/sys/xen/independent_wallclock |
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| 16:40.48 | enouf | dec3pti0n: i recall that as an older workaround/bug |
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| 16:41.54 | enouf | and even older was the vmwarez crap speeding up time and needing either one of the clock{source}= kernel params |
| 16:42.51 | enouf | dec3pti0n: and don't come asking for help when VMs are involved without even mentioning they are involved ... |
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| 16:43.39 | Akuw | enouf: what flash plug in i have to use in mozilla to see youtube |
| 16:43.46 | enouf | none |
| 16:43.58 | enouf | !youtube script |
| 16:43.58 | dpkg | somebody said youtube script was see http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=MPlayer_youtube_script so you can instantly watch youtube videos using mplayer No need for big BLOATED browsers and their Plugins and Extensions.. Recently updated (August 09 2008 - thanks amphi) added versatility and improved functionality. An alternate is the 'youtube-dl' pkg |
| 16:44.02 | enouf | is what i use |
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| 16:45.29 | abrotman | Akuw: you probably want the binary adobe plugin ... /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 16:48.40 | jetscreamer | i find installing the vlc xine mplayer and flash plugins works for most everything |
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| 16:49.48 | enouf | mplayer works for most everything - no other things needed |
| 16:50.13 | abrotman | wonders what you would use for the things not included in 'most' |
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| 16:50.23 | PeterM | enouf: Exept the dlls?! |
| 16:50.59 | enouf | if it doesn't fall into most, it crap - and even most things in 'most' are already crap |
| 16:51.06 | enouf | ignores crap |
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| 16:51.56 | PeterM | enouf: lol |
| 16:51.58 | enouf | PeterM: did you just mention 'DLL' in a GNU/Linux channel? |
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| 16:53.41 | PeterM | enouf: :-( I did⦠mplayerhq has a lot for wmv and so on⦠AND: Yes, i feel bad about it! :-) |
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| 16:54.35 | blubberdiblub | w32codecs package also as a lot of them |
| 16:54.40 | abrotman | same things |
| 16:55.13 | enouf | blubberdiblub: they are not dlls - dlls are not elfs |
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| 16:56.03 | SQlvpapir | I just found that my router features a ftp server, however I have no luck to log in. I am curious what is inside.. any tips? should I try a brute force attack (since its 100mbit bandwith to it and I can retry without being banned) or are there some sort of db with the passwords? |
| 16:56.06 | abrotman | enouf: the .dll files in the w32codecs package are DLLs |
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| 16:56.11 | SQlvpapir | its the d-link di-824vup+ btw |
| 16:56.17 | enouf | abrotman: what dll files? |
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| 16:56.26 | blubberdiblub | enouf, "/usr/lib/codecs/avizlib.dll: PE32 executable for MS Windows (DLL) (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit" |
| 16:56.31 | leon2k | hi |
| 16:56.40 | abrotman | enouf: i just said |
| 16:56.41 | enouf | abrotman: i have w32codecs installed - there are NO DLLs on my boxen |
| 16:56.49 | leon2k | does anybody know a program like peerguardian but for debian ? |
| 16:56.56 | abrotman | enouf: then you didn't install it |
| 16:57.08 | enouf | blubberdiblub: i don't have that crap .. whatever it is |
| 16:57.20 | abrotman | enouf: that's from the w32codecs package |
| 16:57.30 | abrotman | leon2k: that's a program to block websites ? |
| 16:57.54 | enouf | oh - i guess they make it available for the Wintendo Weenie WINE losers |
| 16:58.02 | abrotman | no .. it's the w32codecs package |
| 16:58.17 | blubberdiblub | enouf, no, i don't use wine. i need it for mplayer |
| 16:58.17 | enouf | abrotman: and when are DLLs used? |
| 16:58.23 | enouf | i don't |
| 16:58.30 | blubberdiblub | enouf, by mplayer for example |
| 16:58.37 | enouf | when?! |
| 16:58.37 | abrotman | enouf: so uninstall your w32codecs package and see what you can plan |
| 16:58.38 | abrotman | play |
| 16:58.51 | Mood | hwo do i restart X? |
| 16:58.54 | blubberdiblub | enouf, for decoding certain multimedia formats |
| 16:58.59 | enouf | abrotman: trust me - i can play 'most' without any stinkin DLLs |
| 16:59.04 | abrotman | bet you can't |
| 16:59.10 | enouf | blubberdiblub: yeah - which ones? |
| 16:59.16 | enouf | abrotman: 100$? |
| 16:59.46 | abrotman | try it .. mplayer uses the DLLs |
| 16:59.54 | blubberdiblub | enouf: truemotion/duck for instance |
| 17:00.20 | enouf | 71 out of 135 |
| 17:00.33 | abrotman | half ? |
| 17:00.34 | enouf | then mplayer sucks ass |
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| 17:00.50 | abrotman | dependency on w32codecs sucks ass |
| 17:01.00 | enouf | blubberdiblub: wtf is truemotion/duck? some quackery i imagine |
| 17:01.07 | xingu | abrotman: particularly if you're amd64 ;) |
| 17:01.30 | abrotman | xingu: isn't there a w64codecs ? |
| 17:01.42 | enouf | there is - however ... |
| 17:01.44 | patrikf | I'm on amd64 and have been able to play anything I wanted to watch so far... |
| 17:01.53 | xingu | I never needed to look to be fair |
| 17:02.02 | abrotman | gstreamer has been trying to do those codecs .. but i can't recall how far they've gotten |
| 17:02.07 | jonnor | you can still use the w32codecs on x86-64 cant you? |
| 17:02.17 | enouf | ia32-libs? |
| 17:02.23 | blubberdiblub | enouf, well, some videos have been made in obscure codecs. that does not necessarily mean that the videos themselves are bad |
| 17:02.44 | jonnor | just that the people that made the vids are |
| 17:02.45 | patrikf | enouf: nothing to do with codecs |
| 17:02.45 | enouf | blubberdiblub: right .. the 'authors' of those videos suck ass |
| 17:03.07 | enouf | patrikf: er 32bit compatibility though .. so |
| 17:03.08 | patrikf | jonnor: I don't think so. maybe with a 32-bit mplayer |
| 17:03.10 | xingu | fortunately everything I care about is either mp2 or mp4 |
| 17:03.10 | abrotman | wonders when he gets his $100 |
| 17:03.35 | patrikf | or with the nspluginwrapper equivalent for w32codecs :D |
| 17:03.39 | xingu | gives abrotman $ZIM100 |
| 17:03.40 | enouf | abrotman: i told you - i rm'd all those DLLs - everything plays fine - send me your money when you can |
| 17:04.20 | abrotman | are you using the debian mplayer? which codecs does it use? how many "everything" did you try? |
| 17:04.50 | enouf | mostly mpeg/mp3/avcodec/real related |
| 17:05.09 | abrotman | wow .. real wide array of codecs .. good test |
| 17:05.14 | enouf | yes dmm mplayer |
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| 17:05.32 | enouf | abrotman: you were the one that brought up 'most' .. oh, and FLV |
| 17:05.38 | abrotman | no .. you said most .. not me |
| 17:05.42 | enouf | no |
| 17:05.45 | enouf | you did |
| 17:05.50 | abrotman | okay .. whatever you say .. have a good day |
| 17:06.05 | enouf | !blame jetscreamer |
| 17:06.05 | dpkg | blames Theoden and jetscreamer for all the evil in the world |
| 17:06.21 | enouf | abrotman: 2x already - when will you ever learn |
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| 17:06.48 | abrotman | you can't even read .. not my problem |
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| 17:10.20 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 17:10.48 | valdyn | i can play everything i get too, no extra codecs |
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| 17:11.05 | valdyn | wmv9, x264 etc, but thats dmm mplayer |
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| 17:11.24 | abrotman | as opposed to the debian one ? |
| 17:11.45 | valdyn | abrotman: well, im not trying debians |
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| 17:19.05 | Roconda | hi, when adding a new user I get error code 10. The groupfile could not be opened either. Have never touched the adduser.conf. pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1375899 |
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| 17:20.29 | PeterM | Roconda: How about the permission on /etc/group |
| 17:21.08 | Roconda | -rw-r--r-- |
| 17:21.12 | Roconda | root:root |
| 17:21.36 | Roconda | same as /etc/passwd |
| 17:21.48 | Roconda | shadow is also correct |
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| 17:23.18 | PeterM | Roconda: lsof? Any process having write-stream on it? |
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| 17:24.03 | pif | hi, I suddenly find that my /tmp has wrong perms, where can that come from? |
| 17:24.18 | Roconda | PeterM: grepping at group / |
| 17:25.09 | Roconda | PeterM: nothing on group,shadow and passwd |
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| 17:27.12 | project2501a | icedove sucks |
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| 17:27.20 | l0bo | why "geeks" keep saying ubuntu sucks? |
| 17:27.29 | project2501a | because it does |
| 17:27.34 | l0bo | is there a good reason for it? |
| 17:27.37 | project2501a | bunch of luben counter-revolutionaries |
| 17:27.58 | mavhc | because they don't want linux to be too easy to use or they'll have to move to openbsd or something |
| 17:28.07 | abrotman | maybe it's offtopic here |
| 17:28.30 | l0bo | project2501a: is there a specific reason for that besides the fact that people want to have more geek credibility by sating it? |
| 17:28.38 | jonnor | l0bo: they are just trying to be the counterweight to all the noobs that things that ubuntu is the best thing in the world |
| 17:28.46 | jonnor | *thinks |
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| 17:28.55 | project2501a | l0bo: ubuntu takes the idea of debian, does away with the ideology, for the purpose of propaganda and "delivering linux with the masses". which is utter bollocks |
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| 17:29.16 | project2501a | it's like the salon articles on "the dumbing down of programming" |
| 17:29.27 | jonnor | (and have no clue about the things, both technically and ideologically that are the fundament of ubuntu) |
| 17:29.33 | project2501a | the ubuntu distro does not care to teach the user |
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| 17:29.37 | mariuspanajr | project2501a: you dont believe that ubuntu has helped spread debian as well? |
| 17:29.41 | project2501a | they just want him to do work |
| 17:29.42 | jonnor | s/ubuntu/any GNU/Linux distro |
| 17:29.43 | mavhc | yeah, that C language is too easy to use, if you're not programming by flipping switches you're lame |
| 17:29.53 | enouf | spread? .. what a word .. heh |
| 17:29.53 | project2501a | marienjoanny: it does. but as a sysadmin, it makes me cry. |
| 17:29.53 | PeterM | l0bo: Well! Those people keep calling it linux, not gnu or fsf⦠That is totally not what the whole movement is about⦠|
| 17:30.05 | mariuspanajr | yeah its not the right word |
| 17:30.07 | l0bo | well in my opinion the too bloated excuse is very dumb, since many know that ubuntu can be easily configured, as almost any free os available |
| 17:30.14 | enouf | yeah - like margarine mixed with disease .. spread |
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| 17:30.20 | mariuspanajr | but I for example am long time redhat user and switched to ubuntu and then to debian |
| 17:30.21 | project2501a | enouf: ebola |
| 17:30.34 | mariuspanajr | I have a couple of friends that go to debian the same way |
| 17:30.36 | project2501a | l0bo: it's not the configurability of the OS. it's the mindset. |
| 17:30.43 | cantido | l0bo: it can also be easily mis-configured.. which is the biggest issue |
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| 17:31.03 | project2501a | Ubuntu doesn't want to change the OS world |
| 17:31.03 | l0bo | cantido: how you know that? |
| 17:31.12 | l0bo | that's a pretty vague statement |
| 17:31.13 | cantido | l0bo: sudo passwd root |
| 17:31.17 | project2501a | the distro just wants everybody to sit by the fire and sing along |
| 17:31.18 | PeterM | The ideology is the important thing! not the âlook and feelâ. Those unbuntu guys all seem to me running 3ddesktop to be cool |
| 17:31.29 | enouf | the *buntus are also much further away from actually recontributing to kernel.org devs |
| 17:31.32 | project2501a | PeterM: right on, brother |
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| 17:31.56 | mavhc | there's 2 kinds of linux users, ones who don't care if you have to wait 50 years for something to work, as long as it's free, and people who would rather be using a mostly free system rather than windows |
| 17:31.56 | valdyn | enouf: contrary to say embedded developers |
| 17:32.00 | PeterM | project2501a: :-) |
| 17:32.03 | valdyn | enouf: </sarcasm off> |
| 17:32.26 | enouf | which is what everyone should strive for - "in kernel" support for all FLOSS |
| 17:32.43 | jonnor | allthough I see alot of good things/pricincles in Launchpad (distributed bugtracking is the way to go imo), ubuntu does not participate very well upstream |
| 17:32.49 | project2501a | mavhc: there's also the linux user who actually *believes* in the idea of free softwaer |
| 17:32.51 | PeterM | is the first one |
| 17:32.52 | project2501a | NOT open |
| 17:32.54 | project2501a | but FREE |
| 17:32.57 | abrotman | ubuntu is offtopic here .. go to #ubuntu if you want to discuss it |
| 17:32.57 | enouf | once it's in, it's fast and works and can be maintained more centrally |
| 17:33.07 | project2501a | Smash Capitalism[tm] ^_^ |
| 17:33.08 | enouf | i mean open - screw free |
| 17:33.18 | mavhc | project2501a: that's the first group |
| 17:33.24 | project2501a | no, it's not |
| 17:33.59 | project2501a | mavhc: you're giving us a bi-polar view of the linux world. which is a logical fallacy in itself. |
| 17:34.00 | l0bo | well we have to admit ubuntu has bring a lot of attention to opensource projects |
| 17:34.10 | project2501a | fuck open source. |
| 17:34.14 | PeterM | l0bo: But not gnu⦠|
| 17:34.17 | abrotman | l0bo: offtopic, go to #ubuntu |
| 17:34.31 | project2501a | and fuck tim o'reilly for coming up with the term |
| 17:34.36 | project2501a | along with pansy-ass ESR |
| 17:34.37 | PeterM | abrotman: It's debian⦠|
| 17:34.38 | cantido | l0bo: the problem is.. it could have all been done inside of debian.. instead of creating 10 copies of all the same debs |
| 17:34.46 | abrotman | PeterM: ubuntu is not debian |
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| 17:34.57 | mavhc | cantido: the real problem is that it wasn't all done inside debian |
| 17:35.44 | project2501a | ubuntu just has *apt* |
| 17:35.44 | PeterM | abrotman: You know what i mean! But you're right. |
| 17:35.44 | cantido | mavhc: thats what I said.. |
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| 17:35.45 | mavhc | cantido: in that it never happened, it took an external group to make it happen |
| 17:35.47 | valdyn | you cant do ubuntu "inside debian" |
| 17:35.54 | valdyn | oh, Im offtopic |
| 17:35.57 | PeterM | Did I hear someone saying âDebian is oldâ? :-) |
| 17:36.01 | dvs | shoots valdyn |
| 17:36.03 | project2501a | mavhc: yeah, due to the external group being turned off by the political ideology of debian :P |
| 17:36.04 | cantido | mavhc: um, that shuttleworth guy wanted his name on something and paid lots of people money for it |
| 17:36.13 | project2501a | what cantido said |
| 17:36.26 | PeterM | lol |
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| 17:36.32 | mavhc | his name is ubuntu? |
| 17:36.37 | PeterM | sor of |
| 17:36.43 | abrotman | stop already. go to #ubuntu |
| 17:36.44 | project2501a | did i mention that iceweasel sucks? |
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| 17:37.05 | PeterM | project2501a: :-p Tell abrotman |
| 17:37.07 | project2501a | abrotman: we're having a discussion that deals with debian as well, what's wrong with it? |
| 17:37.07 | jelly-home | !sunday |
| 17:37.08 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 17:37.08 | illikawn | s3switch sucks |
| 17:37.09 | cantido | project2501a: its just firefox minus some logos |
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| 17:37.19 | abrotman | project2501a: no you're not |
| 17:37.21 | project2501a | cantido: still sucks |
| 17:37.25 | PeterM | jelly-home: LOL! |
| 17:37.34 | xaban | Hello, I have just installed the nvidia drivers on my system (lenny), but the max resolution is 640x480, why? |
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| 17:37.40 | cantido | project2501a: don't use it then, or fix the problems yourself |
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| 17:37.49 | project2501a | xaban: you need to upgrade to Communism |
| 17:37.55 | jelly-home | PeterM: nonsupport discussion goes to #debian-offtopic |
| 17:38.00 | PeterM | xaban: Do you usi X's autoconfiguration or did you set it manually? |
| 17:38.04 | enouf | project2501a: firepoop and it's variants? yes, sucks hairy smelly ass |
| 17:38.09 | project2501a | cantido: i did: fetchmail + procmail + notify-daemon |
| 17:38.10 | xaban | PeterM, nvidia-xconfig |
| 17:38.23 | project2501a | mutt ftw |
| 17:38.27 | cantido | project2501a: you want a medal? shiny star? |
| 17:38.29 | jelly-home | waits for an op to to the silence jig |
| 17:38.44 | project2501a | cantido: only if it comes with the face of RMS on it. |
| 17:38.48 | project2501a | and maybe cowboy neal |
| 17:38.56 | PeterM | xaban: Did you have a look inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 17:39.01 | enouf | project2501a: i think we need to employ more of a Frameworks[tm] mentality </sarcasm> |
| 17:39.09 | PeterM | xaban: What is /var/log/X telling you? |
| 17:39.11 | project2501a | enouf: heh. |
| 17:39.19 | project2501a | enouf: mutt on Rails? |
| 17:39.22 | xaban | PeterM, yes, but it seems ok, I should take a look in the logs, mom |
| 17:39.23 | abrotman | xaban: how did you install the nvidia drivers? |
| 17:39.35 | PeterM | abrotman: Yes he did. |
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| 17:39.38 | enouf | Ruby on crack |
| 17:39.42 | PeterM | enouf: :-) |
| 17:39.46 | abrotman | PeterM: HOW .. not did |
| 17:39.50 | cantido | ruby on php on string on crack |
| 17:39.53 | cantido | spring |
| 17:40.03 | PeterM | abrotman: I'm sorry. Misread it. |
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| 17:47.41 | gnufs | hello all |
| 17:48.00 | gnufs | or my clipboard seems to be screwed |
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| 17:48.27 | gnufs | how can i reset it? |
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| 17:51.02 | jussi_ | can someone tell me what to do when my server makes an alarm sound when i boot it up after installing new ram? |
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| 17:51.34 | spacepluk | jussi_: put the old ram back? |
| 17:51.40 | jussi_ | i did |
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| 17:51.42 | jussi_ | and it works |
| 17:51.49 | jussi_ | i had 2 x 256mb |
| 17:52.08 | jussi_ | after adding 2 x 512 it sounded the alarm |
| 17:52.20 | jussi_ | my installation should support 4 gb of ram |
| 17:52.25 | project2501a | Jussi: there's some motherboards that require *specific* kind of ram, or won't boot. |
| 17:52.32 | spacepluk | jussi_: sounds like a hardware problem |
| 17:52.40 | project2501a | or in your case, start beeping |
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| 17:53.01 | jussi_ | my motherboard should support sdram that im trying to install |
| 17:53.04 | gnufs | okay, solved |
| 17:53.06 | gnufs | the running vinagre session (remote desktop viewer) seems to have caused it |
| 17:53.24 | abrotman | jussi_: probably try ##hardware |
| 17:53.27 | project2501a | jussi_: should != does |
| 17:53.38 | spacepluk | project2501a: agree |
| 17:54.00 | jussi_ | project2501a: should != does -- meaning? |
| 17:54.20 | project2501a | that's what ubuntu does :P |
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| 17:54.41 | project2501a | people are not even familiar with the != operator |
| 17:54.53 | jussi_ | atleast not me |
| 17:55.04 | project2501a | jussi_: google for != |
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| 17:55.10 | project2501a | you know what? i'll go take a walk. |
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| 17:55.12 | project2501a | later |
| 17:55.31 | abrotman | jussi_: go ask ##hardware .. you might have some sort of other hardware issue .. nothing to do with Debian |
| 17:55.32 | Pnux | hey, does anybody know a good tutorial about installing squeeze or lenny in a usb pen drive? |
| 17:55.33 | project2501a | margiolas kot kot kot |
| 17:55.35 | spacepluk | jussi_: It means that your motherboard may not support that ram |
| 17:55.41 | enouf | project2501a: there are many motherboards that also won't let you Boot a drive connected to a specific port or controller |
| 17:56.01 | project2501a | enouf: craaaazy hardwaer |
| 17:56.07 | project2501a | BARIEMAI RE |
| 17:56.08 | enouf | project2501a: mostly due to positioning of said drive .. yep - stupid shit |
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| 17:56.21 | project2501a | ok, been in the house too long |
| 17:56.22 | project2501a | later |
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| 17:57.17 | enouf | heh - see ya maybe != later :-P |
| 17:57.21 | l0bo | why don't free systems unify and create a framework for apps. that way they would run in any os without having to buil each package for an specific system |
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| 17:57.53 | enouf | l0bo: free generally conotates choice - something all proprietary systems despise |
| 17:57.59 | enouf | conn* |
| 17:58.13 | valdyn | l0bo: that is there |
| 17:58.18 | valdyn | l0bo: its called lsb |
| 17:58.24 | enouf | ugh |
| 17:58.32 | valdyn | !lsb |
| 17:58.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lsb is The Linux Standard Base, a set of guidelines which all linux distributions should follow to ensure compatability between them. More information can be found at http://www.linuxbase.org/ or very incomplete |
| 17:58.53 | enouf | heh " ... very incomplete" |
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| 18:00.16 | l0bo | enouf: sometimes the philosophy of some projects seem so stupid. is the goal to provide good opensource quality software? or to make a thousand personal versions of the same thing? |
| 18:00.23 | valdyn | l0bo: one system that does this to "perfection" is windows, its a huge fucking mess there |
| 18:00.28 | l0bo | why don't combine efforts into that aswell |
| 18:00.39 | enouf | l0bo: your looking for a job? |
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| 18:00.44 | enouf | you're* |
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| 18:01.09 | l0bo | enouf: no why? |
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| 18:01.31 | enouf | well - you just outlined a very lofty job description ... |
| 18:02.24 | enouf | l0bo: i mean ; whose goals did you have in mind when you say " is the goal to provide ... " |
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| 18:03.39 | l0bo | people?, devs? those who write software and give it away? |
| 18:04.01 | enouf | l0bo: er - that's a lot of people to ask |
| 18:04.31 | valdyn | l0bo: i think you first need to understand how free software comes into existance |
| 18:04.33 | enouf | l0bo: and would you trust the response of one whom speaks for another? |
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| 18:07.28 | enouf | considers going back to bed - maybe abrotman was right about that 'nap' thing :-P |
| 18:08.11 | abrotman | enouf: well, you've been up for a few hours now .. :) |
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| 18:08.32 | enouf | also leaves the assorted meds out on the table for him to take later .. he seems to have missed today's dose - oh yeah - i'll expect that C-note in my account soon :-) |
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| 18:09.06 | Buck | how can I get a list of ports that are listened to on my debian box? |
| 18:09.35 | abrotman | netstat -plunt |
| 18:10.18 | Buck | thank you |
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| 18:11.12 | Buck | abrotman: do you also know how to test a udp connection? I always use 'telnet <port>' for testing connections, but it doesn't seem to work for udp |
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| 18:12.05 | l0bo | abrotman: do you get paid for giving assistance, or is it just a nice gesture of you?. cause you are always here :) |
| 18:12.18 | enouf | lsof -i -udp maybe? |
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| 18:13.03 | enouf | oh well - wrong options , and anyways, netstat would show udp as well |
| 18:13.09 | Buck | it does enouf, thanks |
| 18:13.23 | abrotman | l0bo: everyone here is a volunteer |
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| 18:14.14 | lordnazgul | /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 18:14.31 | lordnazgul | .msg dpkg |
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| 18:17.06 | l0bo | abrotman: well you guys do a great job. although i've only used debian for very few, i remember you and enouf helping me back then, good to see you guys are still around giving out help for noobs like us lol. anyway enough with the gay stuff. i'm out of here |
| 18:17.10 | l0bo | peace! |
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| 18:17.32 | lordnazgul | So I upgraded from etch to lenny, and now the system wont boot. I have root on LVM and I am assuming that the lvm module isn't included in the new initrd. how does one include it ? |
| 18:17.51 | jibin | lvm should be in initrd |
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| 18:18.25 | lordnazgul | then maybe it is the dell perc driver. I can still boot from the old kernel. |
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| 18:19.53 | jibin | (i would build a custom kernel if i felt like it) |
| 18:20.14 | lordnazgul | jibin: yuck |
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| 18:20.47 | jibin | very slow process |
| 18:20.53 | jibin | do it all the time |
| 18:21.10 | lordnazgul | jibin: i know its a pita, i try to avoid it if i can |
| 18:22.07 | lordnazgul | jibin: is there any way i can get a list of the modules update-initramfs would include if i set it to "Most", then i can compare and see what is missing? |
| 18:22.32 | jibin | i dont know |
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| 18:26.04 | enouf | lordnazgul: make one with most as the option and one with one of the other options, then compare |
| 18:26.38 | lordnazgul | enouf: the problem is that i cant boot the one if i choose most |
| 18:26.40 | enouf | but generally without Most - you screw yourself |
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| 18:27.22 | lordnazgul | enouf: if i choose most, and then list modules in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, will those be included in addition to "most" |
| 18:27.34 | enouf | lordnazgul: use a debian linux-image-version pkg, install it, and LVM stuff should be all well taken care of |
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| 18:28.21 | enouf | otherwise learn /etc//initramfs-tools/{modules} etc .. and update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.x.x |
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| 18:29.12 | lordnazgul | enouf: that is how i installed it to begin with. I have root on lvm on a raid mirror on a dell perc3/di. on boot it complains that the VG is not found and just hangs. hence my thought that either the perc driver or the lvm module is not included |
| 18:29.15 | enouf | and /boot is not on LVM, right? |
| 18:29.21 | lordnazgul | nope |
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| 18:29.48 | enouf | er - maybe a vgchange -ay might help - BUT please investigate PRIOR to running anything like that |
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| 18:30.26 | lordnazgul | enouf: grub can read /boot just fine, and loads the kernel and initrd. then says the vg isnt found and then hangs, never drops me to shell |
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| 18:32.16 | enouf | i already mentioned how to manually rectify that - but maybe your module load order is bad - also try a rootdelay=20 or something |
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| 18:34.03 | enouf | lordnazgul: there was some issue concerning correct /dev/mapper/naming-conventions or something - are you passing UUIDs or LABELs or /dev/names/VG-xxx |
| 18:34.13 | bjv | im trying to build tftp-hpa-5.0 on my old PII etch notebook |
| 18:34.25 | bjv | it's failing with a 'recvfrom.c:218: error: âIPV6_RECVPKTINFOâ undeclared (first use in this functio' |
| 18:34.47 | lordnazgul | enouf the rootdelay was it. it looks like it was trying to find the vg before the perc driver had fully initialized |
| 18:34.56 | enouf | bingo |
| 18:34.56 | bjv | am i right in thinking libc6-dev 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 is probably not the best? |
| 18:35.15 | jibin | yep |
| 18:35.28 | jibin | but libc is kind of dangerous to upgrade |
| 18:35.36 | bjv | well foo. |
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| 18:36.15 | enouf | bjv: maybe try and disable any/all ipv6 crap |
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| 18:36.22 | bjv | doing an update; install libc 2.3.6 is the latest anyway |
| 18:36.30 | jibin | what is ipv6 |
| 18:36.30 | bjv | yeah |
| 18:36.48 | enouf | !noipv6 |
| 18:36.48 | dpkg | somebody said noipv6 was echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
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| 18:36.59 | zleap | jibin, replacement for ipv4, allows for more internet addresses |
| 18:36.59 | enouf | !blacklist ipv6 |
| 18:36.59 | dpkg | i guess noipv6 is echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 18:37.05 | enouf | heh |
| 18:37.10 | Pnux | ive been searching for 30 minutes and cant find it, does anybody have the link to download netinst for testing? (only got stable and sid) |
| 18:37.39 | enouf | no you don't |
| 18:37.52 | enouf | there is no sid netinstall |
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| 18:38.59 | Pnux | oh god, you can achieve so much by reading more than the header *sigh* |
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| 18:39.49 | subsume | In lenny, how do I exit the GUI or at least get a non-gui terminal? |
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| 18:40.14 | Pnux | ctrl+alt+F[1-4]? |
| 18:40.40 | enouf | [1-6] but yeah |
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| 18:40.46 | jussi_ | can someone tell me what command to use in order to find out what mobo i have? |
| 18:40.47 | subsume | ] |
| 18:40.51 | subsume | =]] |
| 18:40.55 | idimmu | screwdriver |
| 18:41.00 | jibin | :) |
| 18:41.03 | enouf | JoSSeTeSERVER: lshal | grep smbios |
| 18:41.09 | enouf | erm jussi_ |
| 18:41.26 | ajavid | good morning |
| 18:41.26 | C4away | anyone have suggestions on a howto or some documentation on using ramdisks in debian? |
| 18:41.35 | enouf | jussi_: or dmidecode (also /msg dpkg what's my hardware) |
| 18:41.35 | jussi_ | erm enouf |
| 18:41.44 | bjv | enouf: yep, i kind of figured configuring --without-ipv6 would do it - but i was willing to update all the libs if someone had been all: |
| 18:41.47 | enouf | jussi_: lshal | grep smbios |
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| 18:41.54 | C4away | I have a working configuration on a CF card that I want to transition to a ramdisk and make the CF card readonly |
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| 18:41.59 | bjv | "oh, it's not so bad, just put blah blah blah in sources.list. |
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| 18:43.04 | bjv | also the possibility that after configuring --without-ipv6 i would just uncover further problems with libc-dev |
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| 18:44.50 | subsume | Is there a way to holistically, absolutely, completely remap the space key in debian? |
| 18:44.54 | lordnazgul | enouf: THX much!!! I'm all good now! |
| 18:45.08 | subsume | i see things like xkeymap but i'm not sure if it will work in some contexts |
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| 18:45.34 | bjv | subsume: id go for... inittab |
| 18:45.43 | enouf | lordnazgul: \o/ |
| 18:46.00 | bjv | but im an ubuntu guy, so.. salt. |
| 18:46.06 | subsume | interesting. |
| 18:46.12 | subsume | salt? ok |
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| 18:46.25 | bjv | i mean, it should work - ive never tried though |
| 18:46.26 | subsume | link on salt? |
| 18:46.57 | bjv | google.com/search?q=grain%20of%20salt |
| 18:47.11 | bjv | no, im saying use /etc/inittab to remap the key |
| 18:47.20 | subsume | oh |
| 18:47.26 | subsume | sounded like a project name. |
| 18:47.31 | subsume | =) |
| 18:47.59 | subsume | hmmm |
| 18:48.14 | subsume | Any expert opinions about messing with inittab to accompliush remap of space key? |
| 18:48.23 | subsume | looks like I can easily mess things up. =) |
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| 18:49.04 | subsume | inittab is probably a bad idea in this context |
| 18:49.12 | subsume | because I don't want SSH sessions into this machine to fuggle things up |
| 18:49.29 | subsume | so, maybe xkeymap is for me. |
| 18:49.47 | enouf | subsume: for non-X see /etc/inputrc perhaps (and might want your own ~/.inputrc) and maybe console-{data,setup} pkgs |
| 18:50.00 | abrotman | thinks that was the shortest nap ever |
| 18:50.01 | subsume | i think X is the only thing i need it for, come to think of it |
| 18:50.21 | subsume | xkeymap doesn't even seem to be for debian |
| 18:50.24 | subsume | hmpf. i love debian. |
| 18:50.43 | enouf | takes the meds he original left on the table ... to try and knock himself out |
| 18:51.27 | enouf | subsume: setxkbmap (mostly for locale changing in X) and xkbmap or something |
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| 18:51.54 | blubberdiblub | there's also xmodmap |
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| 18:52.05 | enouf | right - and man xorg.conf |
| 18:52.22 | subsume | xmodmap then? =) |
| 18:52.35 | enouf | i'm thinking of Xkboptions in xorg.conf |
| 18:53.02 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.02 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.06 | enouf | kind of things |
| 18:55.45 | subsume | hmm i can never find that damn file |
| 18:55.56 | subsume | i love find. |
| 18:55.58 | subsume | and debian. |
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| 18:57.10 | Gast476 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.24 | enouf | subsume: whereis, which, locate, dlocate, dpkg -S, dpkg -l, apt-file, apropos, man -k |
| 18:57.31 | subsume | =) |
| 18:57.36 | blubberdiblub | apropos meds, thanks for reminding me |
| 18:57.58 | subsume | *looking up the appropriate xkboption* |
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| 18:58.37 | enouf | now .. those are in ... i forget :-P |
| 18:58.48 | subsume | yeah. |
| 18:58.52 | subsume | somewhere hidden. very hidden. |
| 18:58.58 | subsume | this is vague http://www.xfree86.org/current/XKB-Config2.html |
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| 18:59.07 | enouf | subsume: ask in debian-x on oftc.net |
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| 18:59.30 | subsume | is that more active or more technical than here? |
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| 18:59.43 | enouf | it's a dev channel - so patience ;-) |
| 18:59.54 | gmap | how do you start a program when a user logs in? I tried rc.local but it doesnt run the app as user, but rather as root |
| 18:59.56 | subsume | cool. |
| 19:00.16 | enouf | subsume: but maybe #xorg here even? |
| 19:00.17 | subsume | gmap: can't you run it as a user via root? |
| 19:00.22 | enouf | or whatever |
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| 19:00.35 | subsume | thanks, enouf. |
| 19:00.40 | gmap | im trying to run xinit |
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| 19:00.47 | gmap | would I do su - user -c 'xinit' |
| 19:00.49 | enouf | np |
| 19:00.58 | subsume | something like that. ask enouf. =) |
| 19:01.19 | subsume | i found it on the internet yesterday. its basically that. |
| 19:01.29 | subsume | "su wtvr;something else; something new" |
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| 19:02.28 | enouf | gmap: you could setup sudoers as well and use sudo from rc.local .. or whatever - but why don't you just create a user ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession for said username? |
| 19:03.02 | subsume | won't that only run on X login? maybe he wants it on SSH login too? |
| 19:03.05 | enouf | gmap: or tell rc.local to run a script - not the command itself |
| 19:03.10 | gmap | enouf what would launch xinit though? |
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| 19:03.28 | enouf | exec startx within a ,xinitrc |
| 19:03.41 | enouf | or whatever startx -- :0 |
| 19:03.46 | gmap | rc.local runs . /usr/local/bin/startkiosk & and startkiosk runs su - user -c 'xinit' |
| 19:03.47 | foetus | a nice sunday evening all debian users in middle europe :) |
| 19:04.07 | subsume | is there a man page for xkboptions? =) |
| 19:04.23 | enouf | if there's a DM involved a ~/.xsession is recommended over a .xinitrc |
| 19:04.27 | enouf | !xsession |
| 19:04.27 | dpkg | well, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
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| 19:05.59 | gmap | enough how should I start the xsession |
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| 19:06.05 | gmap | i put the code in rc.local? |
| 19:06.10 | gmap | su - user -c 'xinit' |
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| 19:08.39 | subsume | enouf: i think i need my own custom layout, not merely options. |
| 19:09.51 | subsume | Anyone know if I can realistically do remote desktop of debian from os x? |
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| 19:11.17 | spacepluk | subsume: if you install X11 you may be able to ssh -X the debian box |
| 19:12.03 | spacepluk | subsume: or you can use vino |
| 19:12.24 | subsume | spacepluk: I've got X11. I tried what you said... X11 started but with no windows |
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| 19:12.51 | spacepluk | subsume: did you tried from an xterm ? |
| 19:12.57 | subsume | no. =) |
| 19:13.00 | subsume | oh wait |
| 19:13.13 | subsume | i started from a terminal in osx (i think that's xterm) |
| 19:13.52 | subsume | nvm i'm an idiot. i just did it from an X11 terminal in osx. |
| 19:14.06 | subsume | but i'm not sure what's happening. |
| 19:14.16 | subsume | it certainly isn't remote desktop =) |
| 19:14.33 | spacepluk | subsume: ssh -vX tells something useful ? |
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| 19:15.17 | spacepluk | subsume: if you have gnome/vino on the debian box you may be able to use the apple remote client or whatever it's called :P |
| 19:15.24 | subsume | hmm |
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| 19:15.28 | subsume | allegedly vino is already on it |
| 19:15.34 | subsume | not sure about gnome. let me try, hwvr |
| 19:15.50 | subsume | (RDC) =) |
| 19:16.12 | subsume | nvm. that's the windows variant |
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| 19:19.57 | project2501a | I saw the best minds of my generation being destroyed by windows |
| 19:20.18 | project2501a | API madness, starving for a debugger, hysterically |
| 19:20.25 | micols | i get cannot resolve domain.com when i try to telnet or ssh to it by name, but not by ip.. i can fine do a ping to domain.com and it resolved to the correct ip, what can be wrong? |
| 19:20.29 | micols | also apt fails resolving , but it can ping the mirrors by name fine and nslookup them |
| 19:20.51 | project2501a | dragging themselves through the corridors of their dorms at daw, angry, looking for an ethernet port |
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| 19:21.01 | micols | my first thought was resolv.conf in etc, but using a different nameserver yields same result, i can fine ssh and telnet by ip |
| 19:21.21 | micols | and apt-get update if i change dk.debian.org to ip in sources.list |
| 19:21.22 | gmap | says x server isn't autherized http://i41.tinypic.com/21me1c3.png |
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| 19:21.50 | mcasti | micols, can you paste resolv.conf ? |
| 19:21.57 | spacepluk | micols: check your routes |
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| 19:22.40 | micols | mcasti: its a one-liner, nameserver x.x.x.x |
| 19:22.58 | enouf | export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority .. or see the xauth pkg? |
| 19:22.58 | micols | tried 2 different good-known nameservers |
| 19:23.29 | gmap | xauth pkg |
| 19:24.08 | mcasti | micols try to erase resolv.conf and recreate again, with chmod 644 and root.root owner |
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| 19:24.30 | gmap | enouf i dont have a .Xauthority |
| 19:24.32 | micols | mcasti: the problem happened as my base install didn't come with resolv.conf, so i copied it over from my old system |
| 19:24.32 | mcasti | maybe a hidden special character in resolf.conf |
| 19:24.41 | micols | also i re-used my old /usr which perhaps was broken |
| 19:24.49 | enouf | maybe /msg dpkg fixresolvconf ? |
| 19:25.02 | enouf | gmap: why not? |
| 19:25.03 | mcasti | maybe a hidden special character in resolv.conf, try to regenerate. |
| 19:25.22 | gmap | dont see one |
| 19:25.22 | enouf | gmap: your URL timed out - no bueno |
| 19:25.24 | micols | somebody need to disable the default turn off of laptop harddisk every 5secs in debian |
| 19:25.32 | micols | its really noisy |
| 19:26.06 | enouf | 209 2009-03-11 03:24 ./.Xauthority |
| 19:26.35 | gmap | enouf when I run xinit when logged into console it works, but when I run su user -c xinit in rc.local it doesnt work |
| 19:26.42 | enouf | !xauth |
| 19:26.43 | dpkg | hmm... xauth is the mechanism for sharing around authorisation for clients to connect to your X server. Ask me about <mit-magic-cookie> for more information. The xauth program is in the xbase-clients package (sarge and etch) or in the xauth package from lenny onwards. See also http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html or ask me about <sshx>. |
| 19:27.11 | enouf | well stop running su user .... |
| 19:27.29 | gmap | but im logged into user in the console |
| 19:27.38 | enouf | and use a script and place set -x at the top |
| 19:27.47 | enouf | and also ssh -vvv if that |
| 19:27.47 | gmap | whats set -x mean |
| 19:27.52 | enouf | 's an issue |
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| 19:27.58 | enouf | 'help set' |
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| 19:28.14 | micols | got it working now it seems, something in etc was broken, but it was not resolv.conf , it was root:root with 644 perm |
| 19:28.16 | enouf | man bash-builtins |
| 19:28.20 | eitan | Hello all. |
| 19:28.29 | mythomaniac | lobe bash-builtins |
| 19:28.34 | mythomaniac | err love |
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| 19:28.53 | micols | but i had the same problem when i lost my /lib/libresolv* or /lib/*kerb* , almost same problem that is |
| 19:28.53 | mcasti | micols, did you try to erase and generate again? maybe a hidden character... |
| 19:28.56 | enouf | that made me think of ears and nibbling :-P |
| 19:29.08 | micols | mcasti: yes deleted it, and touch'ed it and chmodded etc |
| 19:29.09 | micols | then dhclient |
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| 19:29.15 | mythomaniac | lol enouf |
| 19:29.16 | micols | and deleting all routes and readding them |
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| 19:29.33 | eitan | I suspect that xorg is not using the right driver for my nvidia video card. I'm getting very sluggish 3d performance... it's probably using a generic vesa driver. How do I get xorg to load the right driver for my nvidia based card? |
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| 19:29.53 | enouf | grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 19:29.55 | micols | eitan: google nvidia drivers linux |
| 19:30.12 | micols | eitan: its a closed source binary |
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| 19:30.35 | enouf | !nvidia |
| 19:30.35 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 19:31.16 | micols | hm i dont have a browser here, but if there are any nvidia drivers with debian it must be 'nv' or 'vesa' right? |
| 19:31.33 | micols | the real 'nvidia' is closed source binary |
| 19:31.54 | mcasti | micols, can you see /etc/network/interfaces ? search for dns-nameservers |
| 19:32.14 | micols | mcasti: yeah, it has no such things, only an auto eth0 , and iface eth0 dhcp or such |
| 19:32.20 | micols | so very stripped down config |
| 19:32.32 | subsume | spacepluk: wow. i guess its working just fine. debian windows keep popping up. =) |
| 19:32.34 | micols | i just wonder what fixed it |
| 19:32.56 | micols | it said telnet google.com 80 : No such service google.com/80 |
| 19:33.02 | eitan | micols: I see... I'm looking into it now.... |
| 19:33.07 | micols | also checked /etc/services |
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| 19:33.17 | eitan | micols: I guess that's why it's not included in debian right? |
| 19:33.24 | micols | eitan: bingo |
| 19:33.33 | micols | eitan: just like intel 2200bg firm for wireless |
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| 19:33.52 | mib_fviwli | hi |
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| 19:34.13 | micols | eitan: you basically taint your kernel when you insert proprietary technology into it :) |
| 19:34.14 | mib_fviwli | i've a problem with berkeley and apache |
| 19:34.23 | spacepluk | subsume: great :) |
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| 19:34.54 | eitan | micols: what graphics card do you recommend that has good open source drivers? |
| 19:35.02 | micols | ATI |
| 19:35.34 | micols | but dont feel bad because you use one closed binary, most of us do that : |
| 19:36.02 | frostschutz | when did ati open source drivers become good? |
| 19:36.09 | icebrain | didn't ATI open-sourced the official drivers? |
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| 19:38.09 | cuba | omg, anybody help me with tcpdump expression ? I tried to write the expression many many times, but tcpdump doesn't follow |
| 19:38.12 | subsume | Is it possible to take over a desktop session remotely? Or merely to start your own? |
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| 19:38.21 | cuba | tcpdump -n -i br0 host 10.1.1.1 && host 10.1.1.252 src port 22 |
| 19:38.26 | pipeline | frostschutz: don't worry the closed source drivers are terrible |
| 19:38.33 | cuba | host: couldn't get address for 'src port 22': not found |
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| 19:38.35 | pipeline | subsume: you can have a persistent remote session with Xvnc |
| 19:38.40 | micols | cuba: your shell interprets && |
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| 19:39.19 | subsume | pipeline: well I see options for this in vino ... same thing? |
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| 19:40.55 | cuba | micols, and what do you suggest ? there is not problem with this symbol, this is how documentation says it may be |
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| 19:41.09 | ryan-c | is there a utility to find the offset of files in a udf/iso9660 filesystem? |
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| 19:41.27 | Supertanker | Hi; how many of the Debian CDs are necessary to set up a basic CLI server? |
| 19:41.39 | cuba | micols, it has a same effect as "and" |
| 19:41.40 | Supertanker | I'm looking to switch from Ubuntu Server to Debian |
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| 19:41.45 | Supertanker | Hopefully it won't be too much of a switch. |
| 19:41.45 | ryan-c | Supertanker: One. |
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| 19:41.55 | Supertanker | ryan-c, oh, good, thanks. |
| 19:42.03 | mcasti | host [-aCdlnrsTwv] [-c class] [-N ndots] [-R number] [-t type] [-W wait] [-m flag] [-4] [-6] {name} [server] <--- i cant see "src port" |
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| 19:42.23 | Supertanker | ryan-c, but downloading more is better if I want to minimize downloading, correct? |
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| 19:42.29 | ryan-c | Supertanker: I usually just use the 1250MB netinst cd... it just downloads the packages as it needs them |
| 19:42.33 | ryan-c | er |
| 19:42.35 | ryan-c | 150MB |
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| 19:43.04 | Supertanker | ryan-c, ah, okay. |
| 19:43.09 | eitan | micols: the instructions that come with the driver make me sorry I asked. Gee wiz.... is there an easy (automatic) way of doing this? (I'm guessing the answer is no.) |
| 19:43.21 | Supertanker | ryan-c, I'm actually on dialup--I just want to use this computer as a file-server for my LAN |
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| 19:43.58 | ryan-c | Supertanker: You can set up apt-proxy if you have several servers... that'll automatically cache packages for you. I use it at the data center I work at. |
| 19:44.01 | Supertanker | And Ubuntu, although a great desktop, is pissing me off as a server with all its shiny toys and dumbed-down-ness. |
| 19:44.08 | Supertanker | ryan-c, oooh, that's a good idea |
| 19:44.44 | ryan-c | Supertanker: and it'll deal with debian and ubuntu both |
| 19:44.51 | Supertanker | Now *that* is nice. |
| 19:44.58 | Supertanker | Although one of my computers is 64-bit :/ |
| 19:45.06 | Supertanker | All my servers are 32 bit. |
| 19:45.12 | ryan-c | Supertanker: You could maybe script it to download security updates at night while you're asleep |
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| 19:45.16 | Supertanker | Horray for different packages. |
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| 19:47.00 | cesar_CR | hi guys |
| 19:47.55 | Supertanker | Hello |
| 19:48.04 | cesar_CR | I am on lenny traying to use aptitude I get a lot of packets like gdm{u} that will be removed... my question is why ? |
| 19:48.07 | cesar_CR | :) |
| 19:48.20 | micols | is it possible to have a separate /etc partition somehow ? in case you often do reinstalls, or how would you backup your etc on your laptop, workstation etc? |
| 19:48.45 | gparent | you can have a separate partition for pretty much everythng, yes. |
| 19:48.56 | cantido | micols: you can mount something to /etc .. but I think its needed before other fses are mounted... like fstab is in etc ;) |
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| 19:49.04 | micols | how would you make a separate /etc ? |
| 19:49.08 | Supertanker | I read somewhere that you can't have a seperate /bin, and I'd suspect /etc too because it's required for booting. |
| 19:49.15 | micols | you cannot make a separate /lib easily :) |
| 19:49.18 | gparent | Ah, nevermind. |
| 19:49.20 | gparent | =/ |
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| 19:49.28 | Supertanker | gparent, I was about to try it when I read that, too |
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| 19:49.43 | Supertanker | I was all "OH Shi--STOP!" because I had an installer running. |
| 19:49.47 | blubberdiblub | well, with initramfs magic it would probably be possible to have a separate /etc |
| 19:49.49 | micols | i just rm'ed my lib, and copied a lib over from another system, lots of programs segfaulting , login, cups, ssh etc :) |
| 19:49.50 | gparent | I just have the standard / and /home |
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| 19:50.31 | micols | i often have lots of files in etc that i need to backup |
| 19:50.38 | micols | on each system, not only on servers |
| 19:50.51 | micols | i.e. wpa_supplicant.conf , udev rules |
| 19:51.31 | micols | i dont think it will boot with separate /etc, i tried that :( |
| 19:52.01 | cantido | micols: you could have temp /etc with enough stuff to get booted |
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| 19:52.10 | flixflox | hello there |
| 19:52.13 | Supertanker | RAMDISK style? |
| 19:52.16 | micols | but i could make an extra ext-backup partition and rsync it every minute |
| 19:52.29 | Mood | Help! I've had no problems with my monitor/video for over a year, then today when i looked at my computer screen, I have these horrible horizontal streaks and shadows. It looks like a frequency issue, but I'm already operating at 75 Hz like I always did. I've confirmed my monitor is not the issue. I'm using a GeForce2 AGP card. Any ideas? |
| 19:52.45 | cesar_CR | nevermind I've found aptitude keepall :) |
| 19:53.01 | micols | Mood: is the vga cable correctly plugged in? |
| 19:53.11 | Mood | micols: yes |
| 19:53.41 | hollywoodb | Mood: try a different video card... sounds like yours could be failing |
| 19:53.41 | micols | well streaks and shadows i have experienced too, my geforce card got too hot and almost died |
| 19:53.49 | micols | that permanently added streaks to the display |
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| 19:54.28 | micols | but i could still use it, it just had those horizontal streaks too (a few of those, not too many, where it looked darkened) |
| 19:54.29 | Mood | micols/hollywoodb: is there a way to confirm a bad card? the only option i can think of is trying the card on a different system. |
| 19:54.31 | flixflox | is there anybody around knowinf a little about raid controllers. I have a 3ware raid controller with a 500GB raid1 (System) array and a 2.3TB (Data) raid5 array. When booting it shows a black screen when grub should appear when I remove all the raid5 discs it boots from the firs array. How can I make it work with the raid5 disk array also avilable ? |
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| 19:54.47 | micols | Mood: i would try that, and try a new xorg conf file first |
| 19:54.57 | micols | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 19:55.24 | micols | it will automatically backup your old config, so dont bother with that :) |
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| 19:55.41 | subsume | Can anyone tell me what needs to be tweaked to enable screen sharing? I ran vino-preferrences but still getting not shared. |
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| 19:55.54 | Mood | how much should geforce2 agp card go for these days? i'd love to get a free one someone's throwing away. new ones I see for like $20. is that a fair price for these obsolete cards? |
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| 19:57.05 | blubberdiblub | maybe not for a geforce 2. i wouldn't take one for $20 |
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| 19:59.56 | PeterM | Mood: Well. I paid â500⬠that days for a Geforce2Ultra⦠|
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| 20:00.14 | Mood | PeterM: o.O |
| 20:00.21 | PeterM | Mood: But you should find someone just giving it to you. :-) |
| 20:00.40 | PeterM | Mood: I just gave mine to a friend last week⦠:-) |
| 20:00.45 | Mood | should i try xrandr first? |
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| 20:01.08 | keith4__ | what are my options for using multiple monitors, if I don't have a dual-head card? |
| 20:01.21 | Mood | should i try xrandr to first confirm it's not a video setting? i ran xrandr -q and everything seems fine in the output |
| 20:01.50 | PeterM | Mood: What is xrandr? |
| 20:02.05 | Mood | PeterM: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2 |
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| 20:02.26 | PeterM | keith4__: Use xinerama. |
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| 20:03.04 | PeterM | Mood: What do you want to do? |
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| 20:03.33 | Mood | PeterM: I want to confirm that it's a bad card, and not a bad setting. |
| 20:03.36 | PeterM | Mood: Oh! :-) |
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| 20:04.25 | PeterM | Mood: Well, it sounds like a problem! Have you tested it with the deb, livedisk? Or knoppix? |
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| 20:06.22 | eitan | does anyone here have any experience or success with the nouveau based nvidia drivers? |
| 20:07.30 | enouf | i would say .. not ready for primetime |
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| 20:08.02 | [ka]killer | im trying to add an iso file to grub, i forget how... |
| 20:08.10 | enouf | what? |
| 20:08.19 | enouf | add?, you don't |
| 20:08.31 | [ka]killer | or point it to the ios |
| 20:08.33 | [ka]killer | iso* |
| 20:09.01 | enouf | see #grub -- grub doesn't boot cd images - though there is a (cd) param |
| 20:09.12 | [ka]killer | k |
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| 20:09.37 | enouf | (grub1 doesn't) not sure if/when that functionality will ever get int grub2 |
| 20:09.50 | blubberdiblub | grub2 does have a loopback module, if i'm not mistaken |
| 20:09.58 | Mood | PeterM: haven't tried livecd, but it's an idea |
| 20:10.10 | Mood | thanks for the ideas guys. going to reboot w/ different card |
| 20:10.12 | Mood | laters |
| 20:10.13 | enouf | yes, grub2 also can do emulation booting |
| 20:11.02 | blubberdiblub | enouf, no, i was talking about accessing an iso image via the loopback grub module |
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| 20:13.04 | keith4__ | PeterM, okay. what if I changed the question to "what are my options for multiple monitors if I wanted to mix-and-match a dual-head card with a regular one?" |
| 20:13.31 | keith4__ | does xinerama play well with twinview? |
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| 20:14.30 | enouf | blubberdiblub: i know what you meant - but why are you telling me? |
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| 20:15.12 | enouf | blubberdiblub: [16:15:07] <nyu> NeonLicht: it's possible, it just won't do what you expect |
| 20:15.12 | enouf | [16:15:14] <nyu> that's why we just say it's impossible |
| 20:15.13 | blubberdiblub | ah, sorry, never mind |
| 20:15.21 | enouf | no prob |
| 20:15.41 | enouf | [16:16:16] <nyu> have grub boot linux and then fire up qemu |
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| 20:17.47 | blubberdiblub | you mean grub2's loopback module doesn't make a filesystem image accessible at boot loader time? |
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| 20:30.34 | gmap | i put .bashrc in the /home/user directory but it does not run when the user logs in |
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| 20:33.21 | rudi_s | gmap: I'm not sure, but maybe .bash_profile works. |
| 20:35.13 | gmap | rudi_s i dont have that file |
| 20:36.16 | rudi_s | gmap: Rename .bashrc or create it with . ~/.bashrc |
| 20:36.39 | gmap | ok let me try that thanks |
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| 20:39.50 | nsadmin | rudi_s: that doesn't create it |
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| 20:40.40 | enouf | blubberdiblub: that's what i'm told - basically yep |
| 20:40.44 | nsadmin | if you're curious as to what . <file> actually does, check the info pages, as they're the best reference |
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| 20:41.42 | rudi_s | nsadmin: Well .. I meant create it with the content ". ~/.bashrc" (without quotes). |
| 20:41.51 | rudi_s | gmap: ^ |
| 20:42.03 | enouf | gmap: getent passwd username - is /bin/bash listed ? |
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| 20:42.27 | nsadmin | you mean put that in .bash_profile? |
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| 20:42.35 | rudi_s | nsadmin: Yep. |
| 20:42.43 | musikgoat | hi, im trying to convert a redhat vpn tunnel script (given from work) to run on my deb server, the script is called ifup-vpn, in rh systems you could call ifup vpn to call it from /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts , it seems from man interfaces and man ifup in debian that ifup refers to entries in /etc/network/interfaces, would i be able to drop the script somewhere? |
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| 20:42.48 | project2501a | where's the icedove settings in debian? |
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| 20:43.01 | rudi_s | project2501a: ~/.mozilla/firefox |
| 20:43.08 | enouf | if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then |
| 20:43.08 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.23 | project2501a | rudi_s: not under $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird? |
| 20:44.01 | project2501a | thank you |
| 20:44.04 | nsadmin | sometimes that's commented out in the distributed .bash_profile... if it is take the #s off the start |
| 20:44.04 | rudi_s | project2501a: Oh, sorry, thought of iceweasel, maybe in ~/.mozilla/ |
| 20:44.13 | project2501a | rudi_s: will tak a look. |
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| 20:44.34 | dejones | Hello, I need to flash my BIOS for an upgrade, but the flash upgrade file is 4MB, so I can't use a DOS floppy image which is 1.44MB since the flash upgrade won't fit. Any suggestions on how I can create a bootable cdrom which will fit the 4MB flash upgrade file? |
| 20:45.20 | project2501a | manufacturers should really get their shit together about that |
| 20:45.28 | dejones | project2501a: I agree. :( |
| 20:45.33 | eitan | bye all |
| 20:45.38 | EraSeR | dejones, Hiren's Boot CD |
| 20:45.44 | nsadmin | why not put the boot on the floppy and then have the updater read from the cd? |
| 20:45.48 | project2501a | if you can flash a BIOS from within MS Windows, you should be able to flash it as root in linux, as well. |
| 20:45.55 | dejones | nsadmin: I don't have a floppy |
| 20:45.58 | dejones | nsadmin: I don't have a floppy drive |
| 20:46.01 | rudi_s | project2501a: Yep, I had a hard time finding myself it in ~/.mozilla today .. |
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| 20:46.06 | enouf | keith4__: i think twinview is it's own nvidia thing and doesn't work with something like xinerama and such but /msg dpkg dual monitors for info about using xrandr and free drivers |
| 20:46.07 | project2501a | nsadmin: what is this "floppy" you are referring to? |
| 20:46.11 | maligor | dejones, you can also use usb sticks |
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| 20:46.32 | project2501a | enouf: twinview is nvidia's xinerama |
| 20:46.36 | dejones | maligor: this old bios version doesn't support USB boot, part of the reason for the upgrade. ;) |
| 20:46.47 | maligor | oh, how annoying |
| 20:46.48 | project2501a | dejones: got sata on it? |
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| 20:47.03 | dejones | project2501a: it's a laptop |
| 20:47.04 | nsadmin | oh, I thought you couldn't use the floppy because it was too small... did I read that wrong? |
| 20:47.12 | dejones | EraSeR: checking out Hiren's Boot CD now, thanks |
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| 20:47.25 | project2501a | dejones: laptop with no usb support? |
| 20:47.28 | project2501a | paperweight. |
| 20:47.38 | bobby1234 | hey all |
| 20:47.45 | project2501a | not even good as an edge router |
| 20:47.56 | project2501a | dejones: kickstart |
| 20:47.57 | nsadmin | unless it has two eths |
| 20:48.05 | project2501a | nsadmin: pcmcia |
| 20:48.18 | project2501a | dejones: use kickstart to boot it from the network |
| 20:48.22 | enouf | !SBM |
| 20:48.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sbm is Smart Boot Manager, or docs on the Debian CD: /install/README.sbm. Uses a floppy to boot from CD if your computer can't. |
| 20:48.30 | foetus | question - i use sysklogd and have kern.log and debug.log disabled, on logins there is no greeting or info anymore, how can i bring back the greeting message? |
| 20:48.51 | enouf | you mean the MOTD? |
| 20:48.53 | project2501a | foetus: cat /etc/motd |
| 20:49.00 | project2501a | cat /etc/issue* |
| 20:49.03 | enouf | do you have a HUSHLOGIN set? |
| 20:49.05 | project2501a | has issues |
| 20:49.33 | dejones | project2501a: heh, no usb boot support, that's part of why I need to upgade the BIOS! |
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| 20:49.53 | project2501a | djace: i said network |
| 20:50.00 | foetus | i could restore the original, but i don't want these two debug logs..they are growing too much. |
| 20:50.00 | project2501a | no ethernet on it? |
| 20:50.10 | enouf | older versions also referred to a file in /etc/default/ (i think it is/was /rcS) for controlling some of the motd things, but hasn't been like that for a while now |
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| 20:51.00 | project2501a | i'm mad |
| 20:51.07 | foetus | enouf: what do i need to figure out at syslog.conf? |
| 20:51.20 | project2501a | how the fuck are you supposed to migrate from one laptop to the other, if you can't copy your icedove settings |
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| 20:51.49 | enouf | aha foetus and project2501a i have a file:///etc/motd.tail |
| 20:51.50 | nsadmin | copy all of /home |
| 20:52.00 | enouf | foetus: not sure |
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| 20:52.07 | nsadmin | and btw have /home as a separate vol |
| 20:52.15 | project2501a | nsadmin: too late for that |
| 20:52.18 | project2501a | on this laptop at least |
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| 20:53.26 | nsadmin | I don't know who you're mad at then... |
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| 20:54.13 | foetus | enouf: he needs some info out of one of the disabled logs, maybe.. however..not a "real" problem, but not correct. |
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| 20:55.13 | enouf | foetus: firstly; who's "he"? and secondly; i'm not understanding you too well |
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| 20:56.59 | dacs | howdy folks |
| 20:57.16 | dacs | what can i use for ftp clinet in lenny please? |
| 20:57.41 | obcecado | i like lftp |
| 20:58.21 | dacs | obcecado: will i be able to use it in gnome? |
| 20:58.29 | maligor | lftp is commandline |
| 20:58.38 | dacs | what about filezilla is there a deb package |
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| 20:58.48 | maligor | yes, there is |
| 20:58.55 | foetus | enouf: ok, i will see..thanks anyway. |
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| 20:59.25 | maligor | dacs, it should be in lenny |
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| 21:02.37 | dacs | maligor: sweet , thank you |
| 21:02.45 | foetus | i found this at login.defs: he (my server :)) need: "FTMP_FILE /var/log/btmp" - maybe this is the problem, the file doesn't exist anymore.. |
| 21:03.02 | maligor | dacs, if you knew the name of the program it didn't occur to search for it?-) |
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| 21:06.39 | foetus | ok, i will reboot now |
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| 21:07.49 | maligor | freenode sure seems to blink on and off of recent |
| 21:08.14 | nsadmin | my guess is someone's attacking it again |
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| 21:12.16 | keith4__ | nsadmin, maligor, it's just a netsplit |
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| 21:14.00 | elik | Say I installed some unstable packages on my testing machine (gnome-do/unstable), and that now, that version I wanted 0.8, is testing, is there any way to downgrade the package to testing, or it will always be fetching from unstable, or it will not because of pinning? |
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| 21:15.08 | enouf | elik: well .. see if you can install directly using apt-get/aptitude install pkgname=version |
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| 21:17.02 | enouf | elik: after an apt-get update && apt-cache search pkgname (is the version you want to install listed?) .. oh wait - the one you want is listed and installed ? ok, well, you could just comment out all you pinning stuffs in /preferences and also the line for unstable in /sources.list |
| 21:17.08 | elik | enouf, the other issue is that the installation of this unstable package pulled a few others packages with it, to meet dependencies |
| 21:17.21 | enouf | elik: if you did the pinning correctly and used it wisely all should be well |
| 21:17.26 | dejones | EraSeR: Thank you!! Hiren's Boot CD is awesome! :) I wasted an entire day + 4 CDs trying, and Hiren's Boot CD worked immediately so I could boot mini WinXP and upgrade the BIOS. :) |
| 21:17.27 | enouf | ahhh |
| 21:17.44 | enouf | elik: have all the dependencies also migrated down to testing? |
| 21:18.34 | elik | enouf, any easy way to know what is "above" testing level? |
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| 21:18.39 | enouf | mini winXP? is that like BartsPE? |
| 21:18.52 | enouf | and if not - seen ubcd.com? |
| 21:19.21 | enouf | elik: apt-cache depends pkgname will show depends |
| 21:19.36 | enouf | i'm not sure i understand elik |
| 21:19.46 | enouf | elik: visit p.d.o |
| 21:19.53 | elik | enouf, let's turn verbose on |
| 21:19.57 | elik | enouf, p.d.o? |
| 21:19.58 | enouf | elik: also might install apt-show-versions |
| 21:20.03 | enouf | !pdo |
| 21:20.03 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 21:20.52 | enouf | heh - that was cute -> <elik> enouf, let's turn verbose on |
| 21:20.55 | enouf | :-P |
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| 21:21.09 | eitan | hello all. |
| 21:21.12 | elik | enouf, hum, ok.. here's the whole situation.. 2weeks ago, I wanted to install gnome-do 0.8.0, but testing was only at 0.4.0, and unstable is at 0.8.0 |
| 21:21.34 | elik | enouf, I adjusted my pinning: http://pastebin.com/f60308ba1 |
| 21:21.50 | streuner | !bobbitt |
| 21:21.51 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorena_Bobbitt]? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system, "debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 21:21.51 | project2501a | we should all just run SCP |
| 21:21.52 | eitan | Can anyone help with setting up an HP laserjet in Cups? I can't seem to get it to recognize the 1200dpi resolution. |
| 21:21.54 | project2501a | we should all just run SCO |
| 21:22.00 | xaban | Hello, I have just installed the nvidia drivers on my system (lenny), but the max resolution is 640x480, why? |
| 21:22.12 | elik | enouf, the installation required a few dependencies to be adjusted, so it installed newer versions of a few things.. |
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| 21:22.18 | enouf | elik: what does cat /etc/apt/apt.conf say? |
| 21:22.31 | streuner | xaban: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 21:22.33 | project2501a | xaban: did you pledge allegiance to the Revolution? |
| 21:22.34 | elik | enouf, now, I see that gnome-do reached 0.8.0 in stesting |
| 21:22.41 | nsadmin | so if you mix dists, a crazy lady comes to cut off your woody?? |
| 21:22.47 | elik | enouf, and would like to "restore" my testing system |
| 21:22.47 | xaban | project2501a, sorry? |
| 21:22.57 | project2501a | xaban: linux == communism |
| 21:23.16 | enouf | elik: i understood all that - just , it depends 'how' and 'what' you edited / modified to get it installed |
| 21:23.23 | project2501a | ok, enough with the Lenny == Lenin joke |
| 21:23.27 | project2501a | xaban: apologies :) |
| 21:23.30 | elik | enouf, kk |
| 21:23.37 | elik | enouf, apt.conf does not exist |
| 21:24.02 | enouf | elik: i said i didn't understand that "above" thing |
| 21:24.15 | streuner | project2501a: wouldnt that bad according to the situation nowadays ;-) |
| 21:24.22 | enouf | elik: ok, and sources.list contains an unstable line? |
| 21:24.28 | elik | enouf, yes |
| 21:24.38 | enouf | elik: and pastebin your /etc/apt/preferences |
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| 21:24.55 | project2501a | streuner: i'm sorry, i didn't understand what you just said. could you rephrase it please? (i'm not trying to offend you) |
| 21:24.59 | nsadmin | streuner: missing verb, and I can't tell which or where :) |
| 21:25.08 | enouf | elik: and output of "apt-cache policy" |
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| 21:25.14 | project2501a | streuner: we just need somone to link lenin -> lenny on all repos |
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| 21:25.20 | eitan | Can anyone here help with an hp laserjet setup in debian ? |
| 21:25.22 | elik | enouf, that's what http://pastebin.com/f60308ba1 was preferences |
| 21:25.27 | Laundry | what do people here use for skype on 64bit? |
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| 21:25.48 | streuner | eitan: easy, just check out linuxprinting.org |
| 21:25.52 | project2501a | Laundry: i don't use skype |
| 21:25.54 | project2501a | IRC ftw |
| 21:26.02 | elik | enouf, http://pastebin.com/f35571d32 policy |
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| 21:26.06 | enouf | ok |
| 21:26.13 | Laundry | irc is nice but it doesn't do audio |
| 21:26.37 | streuner | !blairsmite project2501a |
| 21:26.37 | dpkg | spins project2501a at 3000000000 rpm, while telling him that Wales could attack within 30 minutes repeatedly. |
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| 21:27.37 | enouf | elik: well .. ok, if you do as i mentioned it should work out AFAIK ... the diff between 700 and 650 is quite small though , so i don't know how much of sid you have pulled in ... but .. |
| 21:28.08 | project2501a | shows streuner a nacked picture of Ritchard Stallman |
| 21:28.10 | enouf | elik: oh and add this to /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 21:28.16 | elik | enouf, does this "score" counts toward the score aptitude gives you for conflict resolution? |
| 21:28.37 | Nikke | i cant move my window to another workspace just to drag them to the side |
| 21:28.43 | enouf | elik: actually grep for anything similar since now a /apt.conf.d/* exists |
| 21:28.47 | enouf | rgrep |
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| 21:28.50 | Nikke | i used to do that in archlinux when i used that |
| 21:28.59 | enouf | elik: i don't know - o |
| 21:29.11 | enouf | elik: i don't know - i don't use aptitude |
| 21:29.29 | elik | enouf, I have "00trustcdrom 01autoremove 10periodic15update-stamp20archive 50unattended-upgrades 70debconf 99update-notifier" apt.conf.d |
| 21:29.45 | enouf | elik: ensure your libc6 is atleast still the testing version :-P |
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| 21:29.59 | enouf | judd: versions libc6 |
| 21:29.59 | judd | enouf: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-4 sid: 2.9-6 |
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| 21:30.46 | enouf | elik: look through those files - you'll be able to tell if anything in any are pertinent to all this |
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| 21:30.54 | elik | enouf, it doesn't like Default version in apt.conf |
| 21:31.02 | deever | is there a mirror providing *all* of the lenny{,/updates,/volatile} dists? |
| 21:31.14 | enouf | make it like it :0 |
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| 21:31.47 | enouf | elik: you still have to comment out the /preferences unstable stanzas |
| 21:31.49 | vinograd19 | hi. I have my system partition crashed and I 'm trying to install system again. Previous settings were stored in hidden directories in /home/ that is mounted from another partiotion. Will those settings work with a new system? Thanks |
| 21:31.59 | enouf | elik: and comment out sid in sources.list |
| 21:32.03 | elik | enouf, ok |
| 21:32.04 | enouf | the line |
| 21:32.10 | enouf | or lines |
| 21:32.34 | xaban | Hello, I have just installed the nvidia drivers on my system (lenny), but the max resolution is 640x480, why? Nobody in #nvidia seems to be 'online' |
| 21:32.38 | enouf | elik: and how do you know "it" didn't like it? |
| 21:32.44 | eitan | streuner: great it worked... thanks |
| 21:32.53 | module000 | xaban: and is X _using_ the nv drivers? |
| 21:32.59 | elik | enouf, starting synaptic told me there was crap in the file |
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| 21:33.22 | xaban | module000, I think yes, xorg.conf says "nvidia" |
| 21:33.23 | enouf | elik: ugh .. synaptic? |
| 21:33.33 | streuner | eitan: you need hplip or hpijs system installed and the driver, mentioned there... |
| 21:33.36 | module000 | xaban: with x running, type "glxinfo | grep direct" in a console |
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| 21:34.03 | eitan | Is anyone using the nouveau drivers for nvidia in debian? |
| 21:34.09 | xaban | module000, glxinfo is not installed |
| 21:34.10 | elik | enouf, sorry, I don't quite know how to retrieve package versions through apt or aptitude |
| 21:34.14 | enouf | xaban: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log - see if nvidia is loaded also lsmod and check for nvidia kernel module |
| 21:34.20 | vinograd19 | xaban, what is your card? |
| 21:34.28 | module000 | xaban: do "lsmod | grep nv" then |
| 21:34.28 | xaban | enouf, nvidia _is_ loaded |
| 21:34.29 | bpun | ok so i added fonts with apt.. can list them with xlsfonts.. the path for these fonts are also in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf ... but I can't select any of the new fonts from my programs.. :( |
| 21:34.29 | enouf | elik: /msg dpkg reference |
| 21:34.33 | elik | enouf, so, source.list and preference are clear of sid and unstable |
| 21:34.34 | enouf | elik: ;-) |
| 21:34.41 | xaban | vinograd19, onboard geforce 8200 |
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| 21:35.00 | xaban | xaban:/home/xaban# lsmod | grep nv |
| 21:35.00 | xaban | nvidia 7214640 26 |
| 21:35.49 | elik | enouf, in the mean time, synaptic will do :) |
| 21:35.49 | enouf | elik: i said comment them out - not remove - but .. one of those files might want a // as a line starter for commmenting out, not a # |
| 21:35.50 | module000 | xaban: what resolutions are listed for the nvidia [display] section? |
| 21:35.50 | eitan | Do ati video cards have open source 3d drivers in debian or not yet? |
| 21:35.50 | enouf | er ..sources.list can use the # |
| 21:35.50 | module000 | xaban: (in xorg.conf) |
| 21:35.50 | MrMentalRay | Hi! I've been using *nix/linux for about 10 years, starting out with Debian Potato on a company intranet server. I'm considering using the latest Debian for my desktop. Been using Ubuntu since v.1. |
| 21:35.50 | enouf | but preferences doesn't IIRC |
| 21:35.50 | bpun | !tell eitan about ati |
| 21:35.51 | xaban | module000, nothing, no resolutions specified in the config |
| 21:35.52 | elik | enouf, like prefrences |
| 21:36.04 | elik | enouf, yeah, synaptic complained about it :) |
| 21:36.09 | MrMentalRay | eitan: not yet |
| 21:36.10 | enouf | elik: actually - you can just mv the /preferences file out of the way |
| 21:36.13 | vinograd19 | Hi to all! I have my system partition crashed and I 'm trying to install system again. Previous user's settings were stored in hidden directories in /home/ that was mounted from another partition. Will those settings work with a new system? Thanks |
| 21:36.21 | module000 | xaban: that's your problem then it sounds like, the nvidia drivers come with "nvidia-settings" or something if i remember? to generate a nvidia'ish xorg.conf |
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| 21:36.23 | xaban | module000, in the nvidia x server settings only 640x480 and 320x... is listed |
| 21:36.37 | enouf | elik: you won't need it unless you're doing pinning which you want to stop now |
| 21:37.07 | bpun | vinograd19, yeah.. assuming you're using the same distro's programs |
| 21:37.10 | enouf | xaban: some dri issue? no idea - you need to review your log |
| 21:37.11 | eitan | MrMentalRay: So neither nvidia nor ati have open source drivers for debian yet... but people are working on that ... right? |
| 21:37.17 | elik | enouf, it's not a good practice in general, or I need to stop to recover like I want to do? |
| 21:37.18 | vinograd19 | xaban, as for me (i 'm too use nvidia), at first you've got to downgrade to previous driver |
| 21:37.22 | daniel2 | http://pastebin.com/d5e2dbb66 |
| 21:37.26 | daniel2 | Any ideas on that anyone? |
| 21:37.31 | enouf | elik: well .. |
| 21:37.39 | MrMentalRay | eitan: not for nvidia yet, no source code |
| 21:37.51 | vinograd19 | bpun, could it be some permission problems? |
| 21:37.52 | MrMentalRay | only propriatary binaries |
| 21:38.09 | MrMentalRay | but ATI is on the go eitan |
| 21:38.28 | module000 | daniel2: #debian - and they are going to want to know which version you are using, and what repos you are pointed to |
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| 21:38.37 | module000 | oh, you're here already |
| 21:38.37 | bpun | vinograd19, no i'm saying you will not have any problems if u're using the same distro |
| 21:38.42 | elik | enouf, ok, my version of libc6 is ok, 2.9-4 |
| 21:38.49 | bpun | vinograd19, if ur using another distro, u might have problems.. |
| 21:38.52 | daniel2 | umm ya... |
| 21:38.57 | daniel2 | And Im using etch. |
| 21:38.57 | enouf | elik: if you ran apt-get update while you had pinning going on, it's possible you need to clear the cache and reload it ... maybe even locate which .debs are installed that came from unstable .. one sec |
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| 21:39.00 | daniel2 | and the stable repo |
| 21:39.04 | eitan | MrMentalRay: so people are working on the nvidia ones.... that's the nouveau project, right? |
| 21:39.13 | bpun | daniel2, try apt-get -f install |
| 21:39.14 | MrMentalRay | well, I'll try out the latest Debian, see how it goes. Only used to Debian for servers |
| 21:39.18 | module000 | daniel2: i thought i was on another tab.. |
| 21:39.25 | simonrvn | daniel2: would highly recommend you upgrade to lenny |
| 21:39.37 | daniel2 | bpun, didnt work |
| 21:39.41 | elik | enouf, I did update while pinning was on |
| 21:39.45 | MrMentalRay | eitan: but they don't have any source code, so it is a lot of guesswork... |
| 21:39.49 | xaban | vinograd19, why downgrading? |
| 21:39.57 | vinograd19 | bpun, thanks. Another problem: when you are install some application, will it overwrite these hidden directories? |
| 21:39.57 | bpun | daniel2, did u do apt-get update? |
| 21:39.59 | daniel2 | simonrvn, dont think thats possible at this moment for this. |
| 21:40.00 | MrMentalRay | like beginning of Samba |
| 21:40.02 | eitan | MrMentalRay: thanks |
| 21:40.02 | daniel2 | bpun, of course. |
| 21:40.04 | eitan | thanks all |
| 21:40.05 | eitan | bye |
| 21:40.28 | bpun | vinograd19, ~/.<somename> << user home settings are not touched by apt |
| 21:40.42 | deever | is there a mirror providing *all* of the lenny{,/updates,/volatile} dists? |
| 21:40.44 | bpun | vinograd19, "~" meaning /home/<username> |
| 21:40.55 | bpun | vinograd19, even if its /home |
| 21:40.59 | vinograd19 | xaban, couse I have problems like this and that was a solution |
| 21:41.09 | module000 | daniel2: have you tried explicitly install php5-cgi, or php5-cli? or only the php5 metapackage |
| 21:41.10 | MrMentalRay | how is the support for wireless cards in the installer? |
| 21:41.20 | bpun | vinograd19, just make a new user and transfer the .dot_directories to /home/newuser |
| 21:41.22 | simonrvn | deever: no, add them individually. |
| 21:41.27 | daniel2 | module000, Yes I have. |
| 21:41.30 | vinograd19 | bpun, Thanks. I didn't knew it. |
| 21:41.32 | module000 | daniel2: same errors? |
| 21:41.48 | streuner | MrMentalRay: /msg dpkg ig |
| 21:41.48 | bpun | vinograd19, or just create the same username and transfer it there.. |
| 21:42.24 | daniel2 | http://pastebin.com/d2eb58046 |
| 21:42.39 | bpun | vinograd19, if the /home/username is a requirement in some of the settings then there may be an issue.. so it might be a good idea to use same user name |
| 21:42.46 | MrMentalRay | k |
| 21:42.49 | enouf | elik: i figured .. it's ok .. just .. not sure how easy this is going to be - i can get you close atleast - something like a dpkg-query or a line like ~$ grep-status -FStatus -sVersion,Package -n "install ok installed" | paste -sd " \n" | sort -n with the proper switches ,ight show you which came from unstable / sid ... but you need to install grep-dctrl and dctrl-tools to use that latter command |
| 21:43.07 | enouf | s/.ight/might |
| 21:43.23 | enouf | !liste repositories |
| 21:43.27 | enouf | !list repositories |
| 21:43.27 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory |
| 21:43.31 | module000 | daniel2: redundant question, your sources.list do match your distro correct? you aren't using lenny repos? |
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| 21:44.24 | elik | enouf, wew, that's sporty! I'll take a look |
| 21:44.48 | daniel2 | module000, http://rafb.net/p/FCGmy377.html |
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| 21:45.06 | deever | simonrvn: why not, actually? ;) |
| 21:45.31 | vinograd19 | bpun, I know, that for some kind of settings in hidden directories, root must be an owner of it. But if I will copy them, permission's rules will be lost. What am I to do? |
| 21:45.32 | module000 | daniel2: hrm...it looks in order. tried any other repos? |
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| 21:45.43 | daniel2 | module000, No. |
| 21:45.50 | daniel2 | Dunno which ones to try |
| 21:45.54 | nsadmin | daniel2: so you're running etch but you have "stable" lines, which now refer to lenny |
| 21:46.00 | daniel2 | ah |
| 21:46.34 | nsadmin | what do you want to do? |
| 21:46.41 | module000 | nsadmin: glad you caught onto that, i didn't even notice it |
| 21:46.45 | daniel2 | That was the problem... |
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| 21:46.54 | simonrvn | deever: think about it. there's many GB of data there, and many mirrors don't only support debian, but many other distros. |
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| 21:48.16 | bpun | vinograd19, copy then use chown |
| 21:48.50 | deever | simonrvn: uhm...is ubuntu so much smaller then? because for it i have found a single mirror hosting all the stuff...;) |
| 21:48.59 | vinograd19 | bpun, ok. I'll try. Thanks again |
| 21:49.06 | deever | well...less archs...;) |
| 21:49.41 | simonrvn | deever: stop being lazy and edit your sources.list |
| 21:49.48 | enouf | elik: see how something like this works; ~$ dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} \t${Origin} \t${Section} \n' | less |
| 21:50.13 | enouf | however - it seems the Origin field isn't being filled here on my output |
| 21:50.18 | elik | enouf, well, what dpkg said: dpkg -l ... did give the repository |
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| 21:50.30 | enouf | elik: ok - great then |
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| 21:51.08 | enouf | elik: well - you had different URLs listed for the sid repos in sources.list and just compared? |
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| 21:51.36 | elik | enouf, hum, no, same url |
| 21:51.53 | elik | enouf, gnome-do-plugins:0.8.0.2+dfsg1-1/var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 21:52.00 | enouf | elik: i mean, one could use the same repos for lenny/squeeze/sid - so unless it explicitly states one of those, then knowing the repo won't help |
| 21:52.24 | enouf | elik: yeah, but which other pkgs from unstable were installed? |
| 21:52.28 | deever | simonrvn: has nothing to do with laziness, i'm just getting curious how all these things work...;) |
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| 21:52.38 | elik | enouf, hum, let's see |
| 21:52.51 | elik | enouf, I see gnome do is gnome-do:0.8.0-1http://gulus.usherbrooke.catesting/main |
| 21:52.56 | enouf | elik: IOW, how much of your system is testing, and how much is running unstable |
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| 21:53.10 | enouf | !iow |
| 21:53.10 | dpkg | i heard iow is In Other Words |
| 21:53.11 | elik | enouf, is that cause gnome-do testing reached the same version than on my system |
| 21:53.17 | elik | thx ;) |
| 21:53.20 | elik | precog :P |
| 21:53.30 | enouf | heh :-P |
| 21:53.37 | MrMentalRay | gnome-do is a godsend |
| 21:53.50 | xaban | nvidia + linux = bad |
| 21:53.59 | MrMentalRay | almost like quicksilver on the mac |
| 21:54.07 | xaban | $ xrandr -s 1600x1050 |
| 21:54.07 | xaban | Size 1600x1050 not found in available modes |
| 21:54.24 | elik | enouf, if I use 'dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}' | grep "/var/lib/dpkg/status"' |
| 21:54.52 | elik | enouf, I seem to recognize some of the packages that were pulled... but a lot more too |
| 21:55.40 | project2501a | anybody got a clue which file in the .mozilla-thunderbird is the filters file? |
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| 21:56.27 | MrMentalRay | nvidia works ok. fglrx on th other hand... sucks |
| 21:56.53 | elik | enouf, if I just do "apt-cache policy", I get for gnome-do "gnome-do: Installed: 0.8.0-1 Candidate: 0.8.0-1 Version table: *** 0.8.0-1 0 500 http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 21:57.46 | elik | enouf, and for gnome-do plugins: gnome-do-plugins: " Installed: 0.8.0.2+dfsg1-1 Candidate: 0.8.0.2+dfsg1-1 Version table: *** 0.8.0.2+dfsg1-1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.4.0-1 0 500 http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca testing/main Packages" |
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| 21:58.00 | elik | !gnome-do |
| 21:58.11 | elik | !judd gnome-do |
| 21:58.27 | simonrvn | judd: versions gnome-do |
| 21:58.28 | judd | simonrvn: gnome-do -- lenny: 0.4.2.0-1 squeeze: 0.8.0-1 sid: 0.8.1.3+dfsg-1 |
| 21:58.32 | enouf | !judd versions gnome-do |
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| 21:58.38 | elik | simonrvn, thx |
| 21:58.40 | enouf | gah - heh |
| 21:58.47 | enouf | simonrvn: ;-) |
| 21:58.51 | elik | !judd version gnome-do-plugins |
| 21:59.01 | enouf | add an s |
| 21:59.03 | elik | !judd versions gnome-do-plugins |
| 21:59.06 | simonrvn | ! is dpkg's trigger .... |
| 21:59.07 | enouf | verionS |
| 21:59.14 | enouf | yeah, and no ! |
| 21:59.16 | araknos | hallo i am trying to set on gta02 the bootloader to start at lower frequency passing the command s3c2440 |
| 21:59.16 | elik | I did add it... |
| 21:59.26 | elik | judd: versions gnome-do-plugins |
| 21:59.26 | judd | elik: gnome-do-plugins -- lenny: 0.4.0-1 sid: 0.4.0-1 squeeze: 0.4.0-1 experimental: 0.6.0.1+dfsg-1 sid: 0.8.0.2+dfsg1-1 |
| 21:59.28 | simonrvn | *facepalm* |
| 21:59.38 | araknos | how can i do it without having to access the bootloader everytime? |
| 21:59.43 | enouf | elik: that's defaulting to the i386 arch too |
| 21:59.54 | enouf | judd versions gnome-do --arch amd64 |
| 21:59.54 | judd | enouf: gnome-do -- lenny: 0.4.2.0-1 squeeze: 0.8.0-1 sid: 0.8.1.3+dfsg-1 |
| 22:00.09 | elik | enouf, ah, thx |
| 22:00.10 | MrMentalRay | araknos: edit the boot config |
| 22:00.11 | enouf | judd versions gnome-do --arch amd64 --release sid |
| 22:00.11 | judd | enouf: gnome-do -- sid: 0.8.1.3+dfsg-1 |
| 22:00.24 | elik | judd: versions gnome-do-plugins --arch amd64 |
| 22:00.25 | judd | elik: gnome-do-plugins -- lenny: 0.4.0-1 sid: 0.4.0-1 squeeze: 0.4.0-1 experimental: 0.6.0.1+dfsg-1 sid: 0.8.0.2+dfsg1-1 |
| 22:00.36 | enouf | elik: thank themill and stew |
| 22:00.45 | araknos | MrMentalRay: you know if there are chances to make it work under 200 mhz? |
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| 22:00.59 | elik | enouf, so, anyway, what's that /var/lib/dpkg/status? |
| 22:01.05 | araknos | gta02 seems to be locked at 200 mhz |
| 22:01.06 | elik | enouf, they came up with judd? |
| 22:01.12 | MrMentalRay | doubt that |
| 22:01.13 | enouf | elik: pretty sure you can also just /msg judd as needed so the channel isn't flooded |
| 22:01.21 | enouf | elik: yeah |
| 22:01.39 | enouf | elik: it's stews bot, but themill added much functionality |
| 22:01.43 | enouf | IINM |
| 22:01.52 | elik | enouf, sounds like a better plan, at least until I get it working first shot |
| 22:01.54 | elik | !IINM |
| 22:01.55 | dpkg | methinks iinm is "If I'm Not Mistaken" |
| 22:01.58 | enouf | MrMentalRay: doubt what? |
| 22:02.05 | enouf | I've /msg judd before |
| 22:02.26 | simonrvn | judd uses a DB stew set up somewhere, plus a supybot, and an UDD plugin. and yeh both themill and stew did a bunch of work on it. |
| 22:02.26 | judd | simonrvn: Error: "uses" is not a valid command. |
| 22:02.26 | elik | enouf, he doubted before that |
| 22:03.16 | simonrvn | pats judd on the byte |
| 22:03.38 | MrMentalRay | the mhz |
| 22:03.58 | elik | enouf, so, from what I can see, it seems that now that gnome-do in testing has reached the version in testing, it now "defaults" to that... at least that's what I seem to understand from apt-cache policy |
| 22:04.27 | elik | enouf, if that's the case, I think I'll leave it like that... I just didn't want to keep packages upgraded on sid.. |
| 22:04.35 | MrMentalRay | well, I'm off trying to install the boot CD on my daughters laptop... |
| 22:04.35 | simonrvn | MrMentalRay: heh |
| 22:04.41 | elik | enouf, and suffer from all the unstable upgrades |
| 22:04.57 | elik | MrMentalRay, Hooray, new generations on linux! |
| 22:05.11 | MrMentalRay | offcourse |
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| 22:05.49 | streuner | MrMentalRay: basically you need firmware in /lib/firmware |
| 22:05.50 | buntfalke | My KDE addressbook keeps restoring entries after restarting the session. deleting the configuration and all addressbooks doesnt fix it. rebuilding the sycoca doesnt fix it. after i close all apps, right before restarting the session, grep cannot find the plaintext phone numbers anywhere my user has write permission. |
| 22:06.19 | xoox` | Is there a way to query for packages installed from a local repository? |
| 22:06.25 | streuner | MrMentalRay: just install the base system from netinstall _and_ firmware in the folder |
| 22:06.43 | ranix | I HAVE POP ROCKS |
| 22:06.50 | streuner | heh |
| 22:06.51 | buntfalke | checking the system configuration on kde startup is enabled, #kde doesnt know a solution so far, google aint very helpfull either, and it is quite annoying... |
| 22:06.53 | ranix | goes *pop* *pop* *pop* |
| 22:07.05 | buntfalke | so if anyone has a hint for me, i shall be very thankful |
| 22:07.07 | buntfalke | Also |
| 22:07.30 | xoox` | from a particular "origin" rather |
| 22:07.34 | buntfalke | where does kde or the addressbook store such information as well? i have know idea where it is retorning from |
| 22:07.45 | zophy | i've compiled hundreds of linux kernels but now out of the blue i'm getting this error while booting for all modules that are being loaded "disagrees about version of symbol struct_module" |
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| 22:08.05 | zophy | so the modules fail to load |
| 22:08.12 | MrMentalRay | I'll pull the plug, and deal with wlan later. cya folks |
| 22:08.27 | streuner | good luck |
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| 22:11.28 | daniel2 | i just decided to upgrade to lenny |
| 22:11.50 | streuner | read <release notes> |
| 22:12.11 | streuner | !lenny |
| 22:12.11 | dpkg | i heard lenny is the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-15: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <lenny release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <release history>, <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 22:12.31 | daniel2 | streuner, I run lenny on my pc. |
| 22:12.34 | daniel2 | Linux stage 2.6.29 #1 SMP Tue Mar 24 22:30:33 PDT 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:12.42 | daniel2 | Thats Debian 5.0 :D |
| 22:12.47 | daniel2 | My servers all had etch though |
| 22:12.48 | streuner | nah |
| 22:12.58 | streuner | lenny has 2.6.26... |
| 22:13.02 | daniel2 | Well. |
| 22:13.11 | daniel2 | I upgraded my kernel. |
| 22:13.20 | daniel2 | distro[Debian 5.0] |
| 22:15.19 | kibibyte | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WmMcqp670s&feature=channel |
| 22:18.03 | streuner | kibibyte: fuck, he visit the whole earth :-) |
| 22:18.11 | kibibyte | :d |
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| 22:19.48 | jbwiv_ | anyone know of an alternative to apt-file that works on Lenny? apt-file seems indefinitely broken on 5.x |
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| 22:20.08 | daft | oO apt-file broken |
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| 22:20.39 | daft | have you done a apt-get update? |
| 22:22.18 | thp_ | when I try to run gtkam I get this http://pastebin.com/m79461933 |
| 22:22.45 | thp_ | is there anything I can do to fix that? |
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| 22:24.49 | icebrain | do any of you use bluetooth and obex? I'm getting "error on connect(): Invalid argument" in obexftp -b -l |
| 22:25.32 | bpun | jbwiv_, doesnt seem broken to me |
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| 22:26.50 | bpun | jbwiv_, there's also another cmd but it's probably not on debian.. called something like 'whohas' or 'whathas' << i believe it's maintained manually from someone online |
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| 22:27.35 | bpun | (is using apt-file version 2.1.5) |
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| 22:28.11 | bpun | thp_, are u using gnome ? |
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| 22:31.17 | streuner | kibibyte: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECoMe8IM3RU&feature=related |
| 22:32.20 | kibibyte | :d |
| 22:32.46 | f00li5h | meow |
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| 22:35.43 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
| 22:35.55 | Ace2017_- | is it possible to create a file which sudo rm -rf won't get rid of? |
| 22:36.00 | NoReGreT | isn't gnome the default manager when selecting desktop installation for debian 5 amd64 ? |
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| 22:36.54 | streuner | yes |
| 22:37.14 | streuner | GNOME is default in Debian |
| 22:37.22 | bpun | Ace2017_-, like a "-" named file? |
| 22:37.25 | klaz168 | Ace2017_-, yes |
| 22:37.36 | NoReGreT | streuner: then why on boot, ti dumps me to a shell, and startx starts twm i guess |
| 22:37.38 | Ace2017_- | bpun: never come across those |
| 22:37.38 | klaz168 | Ace2017_-, you need to alter the attributes |
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| 22:37.51 | bpun | Ace2017_-, what's the name of the file? |
| 22:38.00 | Ace2017_- | can you do it to a high level directory like /home/user/ ? |
| 22:38.05 | bpun | (to remove -, you use rm ./- |
| 22:38.53 | Ace2017_- | actually something more important, how can i scan for empty files? |
| 22:38.53 | amphi | bpun: rm -- - |
| 22:39.16 | Laundry | what gameboy emulator should i use |
| 22:39.21 | bpun | Ace2017_-, check if they're zero bytes with find |
| 22:39.41 | Ace2017_- | ah, didn't know find did that, i'll read the man page again |
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| 22:42.26 | bpun | Ace2017_-, the files may not been deleted because they're being used |
| 22:43.01 | thp_ | bpun: I am using kde |
| 22:43.14 | thp_ | i found a macbook laptop i am about to sell and used that to get my photos off |
| 22:43.18 | thp_ | it was so nice, no random errors |
| 22:43.28 | thp_ | but i'd like to solve this for next time |
| 22:43.49 | lokus | doing a dist-upgrade in 4.0, is it ok to continue if it tells me it wlil remove linux-kernel-headers? |
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| 22:44.21 | bpun | lokus, that's not the kernel but used if u compile stuff against the kernel source |
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| 22:44.44 | bpun | lokus, u'd have to upgrade the linux-kernel-headers if u wish to use nvidia proprietary of course |
| 22:44.47 | lokus | will things that have been compiled against those kernel-headers still work? |
| 22:44.52 | ajavid | http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/pastebin_0.60-1.html |
| 22:44.53 | ajavid | sweet |
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| 22:44.58 | ajavid | ;) |
| 22:44.59 | bpun | lokus, yes.. as long as u boot the same kernel |
| 22:45.04 | jbwiv_ | bpun: interesting |
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| 22:45.16 | lokus | ok, so just make sure the dist-upgrade doesnt include a new kernel-image and i shuold be okay? |
| 22:45.17 | jbwiv_ | bpun: for me, apt-file update gives "Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz" |
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| 22:45.34 | jbwiv_ | and Google told me it was a known issue with Debian 5 |
| 22:45.42 | jbwiv_ | did you find a way to get around it? |
| 22:46.15 | Ace2017_- | eeek my filesystem is readonly :D |
| 22:46.17 | Ace2017_- | :O |
| 22:46.22 | Ace2017_- | what do i do? |
| 22:46.29 | streuner | Ace2017_-: that isnt a good sign... |
| 22:46.42 | Ace2017_- | i know, what do i do? how do i find out what caused it? |
| 22:46.58 | streuner | check out smartmontools |
| 22:47.11 | Ace2017_- | dmesg: ERROR: (device dm-0): JFS:Dtree error: ino = 1015162, bn=0, index = 0 |
| 22:47.19 | streuner | sid? |
| 22:47.23 | Ace2017_- | yea |
| 22:47.34 | streuner | .oO (i had the same issue...) |
| 22:47.45 | bpun | jbwiv_, u can try using wget and then work with another sources.list for those .gz files.. |
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| 22:48.06 | bpun | jbwiv_, (using the -s option) |
| 22:48.06 | jbwiv_ | bpun: ok...will try that. thanks |
| 22:48.09 | Ace2017_- | wait a sec |
| 22:48.19 | Ace2017_- | if the filesystem is readonly i can just press the reset button right? |
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| 22:49.00 | streuner | well, in that case it just fsck the whole FS |
| 22:49.11 | Ace2017_- | how do i fsck it if its readonly? |
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| 22:49.28 | streuner | but anyway you need to fsck anyways |
| 22:49.33 | lokus | for some reason ssh is in the packages to be removed in dist-upgrade, i dont like the look of that rofl.. how can i do this safely? |
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| 22:49.54 | Ace2017_- | i can't even touch forcefsck |
| 22:49.56 | streuner | Ace2017_-: just try to cp some file to another folder... |
| 22:50.02 | bpun | lokus, make a selections list to a textfile.. |
| 22:50.06 | Ace2017_- | touch: cannot touch `/forcefsck': Read-only file system |
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| 22:50.10 | Tuxguy | Maildir's in linux do not have trash/ sent/ drafts... so where is that stored? |
| 22:50.14 | streuner | Ace2017_-: yeah |
| 22:50.48 | bpun | lokus, probably the're a new packagename for it too |
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| 22:50.57 | Ace2017_- | smart data looks ok |
| 22:50.59 | streuner | Ace2017_-: hope, you dont have important data on that partition or you have a backup... |
| 22:51.15 | Ace2017_- | aww :( i just managed to get xgl to compile flawlessly |
| 22:51.30 | streuner | thats not the reason |
| 22:51.45 | lokus | bpun: hmm, a selections list? ill scan the to be installed pkgs, maybe its openssh-server or something |
| 22:52.25 | ajavid | hey |
| 22:52.38 | ajavid | there is a package on ftpmaster which has not yet been accepted, is there a way to download this ? |
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| 22:52.56 | streuner | ask the maint. :-) |
| 22:52.59 | bpun | lokus, will u be able to use the local console or are u doing this remotely? |
| 22:53.18 | ajavid | streuner, public can't download? |
| 22:53.24 | streuner | no |
| 22:53.26 | lokus | bpun: remote |
| 22:53.34 | Ace2017_- | streuner: i'm running a smart selftest |
| 22:53.35 | ajavid | awwwwww |
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| 22:54.16 | Ace2017_- | is this what caused it: tmpfs 4006460 0 4006460 0% /lib/init/rw |
| 22:54.22 | Ace2017_- | tmpfs shouldn't be full should it? |
| 22:54.55 | streuner | tmpfs 1034148 4 1034144 1% /lib/init/rw |
| 22:55.22 | Ace2017_- | oh wait thats how full it is, i read that wrong |
| 22:55.36 | jelly-home | _however_ using 4GB for /lib/init/rw is dumb. |
| 22:55.50 | Ace2017_- | i didn't do that |
| 22:55.54 | streuner | why? |
| 22:55.57 | jelly-home | no, it's the default |
| 22:56.06 | Ace2017_- | is it variable? |
| 22:56.34 | jelly-home | streuner: same thing as why using a huge tmpfs for /dev |
| 22:56.40 | scientes | doesnt matter |
| 22:56.47 | Ace2017_- | how do i remount rw? |
| 22:56.52 | scientes | default is half of ram |
| 22:56.54 | bpun | anyone knows about fonts? xlsfonts lists my new fonts but i cant access them with any app.. |
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| 22:57.25 | streuner | usually umount -a and mount -a, but that doesnt work (usually), Ace2017_- |
| 22:57.41 | streuner | not in case of FS errors |
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| 22:58.09 | bpun | Ace2017_-, use a boot cd and use the rescue feature.. then try fsck the disk |
| 22:58.27 | jelly-home | Ace2017_-: tmpfs is unrelated to any disk errors, however |
| 22:58.30 | streuner | that what the boot-process usually do |
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| 22:58.45 | Ace2017_- | streuner: what caused your disk error? |
| 22:58.52 | streuner | no idea |
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| 22:59.12 | streuner | some data are lost, but now it works |
| 22:59.50 | streuner | after fsck |
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| 23:02.23 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm trying to unmount a filesystem, but I'm getting an error message: "device is busy" What can I do? |
| 23:02.36 | nsadmin | find out why it's busy |
| 23:02.37 | ajavid | http://ajavid.pastebin.com/d53abc280 for example this is how you would construct your custom decorator arrays |
| 23:02.40 | ajavid | just extend zend_form |
| 23:02.45 | ajavid | uhm. |
| 23:02.50 | ajavid | *sigh* |
| 23:02.56 | streuner | monkey_d_luffy: if you dont know where a shell is just open, just reboot |
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| 23:03.24 | megaTherion | monkey_d_luffy: rather use lsof to determine what process is using it |
| 23:03.25 | monkey_d_luffy | nsadmin: great... how? |
| 23:03.28 | megaTherion | streuner: no this is not windows |
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| 23:03.34 | pattern | does anyone know of any applications which will continuously report the X and Y position of the mouse cursor on the screen? |
| 23:03.41 | monkey_d_luffy | megaTherion: thanks! |
| 23:03.42 | streuner | megaTherion: really? |
| 23:03.53 | jelly-home | monkey_d_luffy: use lsof to see open files, for example |
| 23:03.59 | megaTherion | streuner: ya a very common mistake ppl think rebooting will solve problems |
| 23:04.06 | Ace2017_- | so no way apart from the fsck to get the fs back? |
| 23:04.11 | megaTherion | monkey_d_luffy: like lsof | grep /your/damn/mountpoint |
| 23:04.39 | jelly-home | megaTherion: forgot -n there |
| 23:05.10 | ajavid | I don't like pastebin, I think I'll write my own pastebin script and stuff |
| 23:05.12 | megaTherion | true |
| 23:05.24 | ajavid | i don't like any pastebin, I need a personal code snippet holder |
| 23:05.27 | ajavid | hmmm |
| 23:05.32 | ajavid | I see nothing packaged in debian |
| 23:05.33 | nsadmin | megaTherion's suggestion is good... the underlying cause of that particular busyness is "a process has its current dir inside the vol somewhere |
| 23:05.44 | monkey_d_luffy | megaTherion: yeah, solved my problem! once again thanks! :) |
| 23:05.58 | nsadmin | ajavid: so, either get a website or maintain a file you can send |
| 23:06.00 | monkey_d_luffy | konqueror and his weird thingies |
| 23:07.01 | nsadmin | ajavid: what else would you do to show largish command outputs? |
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| 23:07.32 | Pimp | does anyone know a list that has subversion other than ftp.linux.hr? |
| 23:07.54 | nsadmin | apt-get install svn |
| 23:08.07 | jelly-home | Pimp: a list? |
| 23:08.09 | Pimp | can't find package svn |
| 23:08.13 | Ace2017_- | this is very strange, i had xfs and a seagate drive for 2 years and no errors, the first samsung drive i use and the first time i use jfs i get these errors, this is the second time i have had it go into read only mode |
| 23:08.20 | jelly-home | Pimp: the package is called subversion. |
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| 23:08.31 | Pimp | it can't find it under subversion either |
| 23:08.49 | nsadmin | judd, versions subversion |
| 23:08.50 | judd | nsadmin: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 sid: 1.5.6dfsg-1 squeeze: 1.5.6dfsg-1 |
| 23:08.50 | jelly-home | Pimp: which debian release? |
| 23:08.54 | Pimp | points out that this is not a simple problem since linux.hr is down |
| 23:09.01 | Pimp | eeepc |
| 23:09.05 | Pimp | xandros fork |
| 23:09.10 | jelly-home | Pimp: that's not debian. |
| 23:09.14 | Pimp | i've added some debian lists |
| 23:09.16 | nsadmin | oh, you'd have to ask them |
| 23:09.19 | Ace2017_- | is going back to the old kernel |
| 23:09.20 | Eulex | that doesn't make it debian |
| 23:09.29 | Pimp | but it's your lists |
| 23:09.35 | Ace2017_- | it was probably a dumb idea to try 2.6.28 |
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| 23:09.53 | nsadmin | I'm running 2.6.28, no problem here |
| 23:09.57 | jelly-home | Pimp: you'll have to ask your distro; we can't help you with mixing and matching. Any debian mirror has (or should have) subversion. |
| 23:10.02 | Eulex | "our lists" will mess up your system. use packages made for your system. |
| 23:10.16 | jelly-home | !mirrors |
| 23:10.17 | dpkg | i guess debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/ |
| 23:10.41 | nsadmin | perhaps you're better off just building subversion |
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| 23:12.35 | nsadmin | if you build it successfully, it has a very good chance of running well |
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| 23:13.02 | Ace2017_- | nsadmin: maybe its a bug which shows up very rarely |
| 23:13.25 | nsadmin | you mean pimp's subversion problem? |
| 23:13.58 | nsadmin | oh, 2.6.28? |
| 23:14.31 | Pimp | thanks |
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| 23:14.35 | Ace2017_- | nsadmin: yea |
| 23:14.52 | Pimp | there's no xandros channel yet :( |
| 23:15.01 | KavanS | when I run d-i partman/early_command string debconf-set partman-auto/disk "$(list-devices disk | head -n1)" in my preseed file, it does not work |
| 23:15.13 | KavanS | however when I run the manual method partman-auto/disk /dev/hda etc. |
| 23:15.20 | KavanS | it works fine....can anyone advise? |
| 23:15.23 | KavanS | lenny preseeding |
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| 23:15.39 | nsadmin | when I build kernels for my boxes I usually try to build them as if they are release kernels... that is, I try to modulize everything possible and use --initrd |
| 23:15.42 | Eulex | Pimp, well, that's your problem, we can't support it anyway. |
| 23:16.13 | nsadmin | Pimp: just build it... apt-get install build-essential |
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| 23:17.00 | nsadmin | then get the source, read the build instructions (which include things needed during the build -- install those) and follow the instructions |
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| 23:21.51 | foetus | I use sysklogd, and have figured out /etc/syslog.conf to prevent logging into kern.log and debug. All works well, but now the "last login" message doesn't appear on logins anymore. How can i solve this? |
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| 23:24.43 | gmap | is there a way to install firefox 3 on debian rather than iceweasel? |
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| 23:25.20 | pl4yer0ne | why do you want to do that gmap |
| 23:26.21 | nsadmin | gmap: debian doesn't officially provide a not-renamed firefox |
| 23:26.22 | gmap | cause my development machine is ubuntu and my kiosk machine is debian. i would like the browsers to be the same. either i install iceweasel on ubuntu or firefox on debian |
| 23:26.51 | ajavid | nsadmin, I'm actually now laying out a new personal pastebin app :) based on features I Want from a pastebin but can't find |
| 23:27.18 | nsadmin | do you know about pastebin pipe? |
| 23:27.25 | ajavid | you don't understand |
| 23:27.26 | pl4yer0ne | gmap, they are virtually the same |
| 23:27.30 | up365 | gmap, there are basically the same except for name |
| 23:27.42 | ajavid | nsadmin, I need a personal code snippter holder/showcase/pastebin |
| 23:27.51 | gmap | the addons are dont work on both versions |
| 23:27.54 | ajavid | with journal like featuresm pastebin history etc. etc. |
| 23:28.03 | ajavid | blah blah blah |
| 23:28.19 | nsadmin | got it, but my question still stands |
| 23:28.38 | ajavid | yes I do |
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| 23:29.17 | serata | hey guys, i'm setting up a server and i installed xfce4 and vnc4server, but whenever i start vnc, it loads fluxbox, anyone know how to fix this? |
| 23:29.19 | nsadmin | well ok. so, you might try building the same feature into what you're doing... |
| 23:29.28 | pl4yer0ne | gmap, have you tried running the firefox from the official site? |
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| 23:29.37 | bpun | serata. nxserver |
| 23:29.44 | ajavid | nsadmin, you mean I see |
| 23:30.09 | serata | bpun, thats not in the repos |
| 23:30.20 | foetus | where are my "last login" messages gone? |
| 23:30.25 | nsadmin | how do you know what I mean when I don't even know?! :) |
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| 23:30.57 | nsadmin | however... there are good web app frameworks out there |
| 23:31.20 | up365 | gmap, type about:config in navigation toolbar, scroll down 3/4 find general.useragent change "Value" to Firefox then get your addons |
| 23:32.51 | bpun | serata, the nomachine site has 3 deb files.. |
| 23:32.59 | serata | bpun, i need it to be vnc |
| 23:33.18 | ajavid | ajavid, lol |
| 23:33.21 | ajavid | er.. |
| 23:33.23 | bpun | serata, well its client supports vnc.. |
| 23:33.25 | ajavid | I mean nsadmin lol |
| 23:33.46 | serata | bpun, there isn't a simple way to get vnc to use xfce? |
| 23:33.48 | ajavid | nsadmin, lol shaddup. No I'm addicted to Zend Framework right now |
| 23:34.00 | ajavid | nsadmin, its like WoW like addiction for me |
| 23:34.34 | ajavid | nsadmin, I was almost moved to python/django but zend framework, doctrine, couple of other things make it worthwhile |
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| 23:34.55 | nsadmin | openacs is the one I learned |
| 23:35.02 | nsadmin | well acs then openacs |
| 23:35.08 | ajavid | what is that? |
| 23:35.10 | bpun | serata, i never used it.. but it shouldnt be too hard.. try to find out what's calling it |
| 23:35.24 | nsadmin | acs is arsdigita community system |
| 23:35.45 | nsadmin | photo.net is one of the canonical examples |
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| 23:36.02 | ajavid | lets take a look at the documentation |
| 23:36.24 | nsadmin | openacs is a port of that from oracle-only to oracle-or-postgres |
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| 23:36.44 | ajavid | OpenACS relies on AOLserver |
| 23:36.45 | nsadmin | and some examples are berkleemusic.com, greenpeace.org |
| 23:36.47 | ajavid | and this is where I stop reading. |
| 23:36.54 | nsadmin | yes it does |
| 23:36.57 | ajavid | thank you and good bye. |
| 23:36.58 | ajavid | :) |
| 23:37.10 | nsadmin | and tcl |
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| 23:37.54 | nsadmin | so open-minded :) well ok, so you did have mild curiousity, I'll give you that |
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| 23:39.38 | ajavid | I should get a website like green4peace.org |
| 23:39.39 | ajavid | ;) |
| 23:40.03 | ajavid | I used to have smokeforpeace.com when the whole 911 thing was going on back in the day few years ago |
| 23:40.06 | ajavid | nm |
| 23:40.11 | ajavid | im gonna go back to my coding |
| 23:40.38 | nsadmin | you should consider that aol has been using this thing for years and years, aol did make it available (optionally under gpl) where it was originally $5000/machine license fee... so if you stopped because of the name, perhaps you could reconsider |
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| 23:41.12 | nsadmin | I happen to like the database API... a LOT... |
| 23:42.00 | sparc-kly | gnome is totally broken in unstable branch |
| 23:42.02 | sparc-kly | ? |
| 23:43.38 | nsadmin | could be... anything in unstable branch is permitted to be totally broken (however, people try to not let that happen) |
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| 23:45.00 | Pimp | ajavid: registered ;) |
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| 23:45.56 | ajavid | nsadmin, yes, because tcl has such excellent garbage collection and such amazing OOP capabilities |
| 23:46.05 | ajavid | Pimp, I don't care anymore :) |
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| 23:46.22 | bpun | in order to use 75dpi fonts do i need to install xfs ? |
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| 23:47.58 | Ace2017_- | streuner: what is the correct method to sort out the read only issue? just fsck it from a livecd? |
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| 23:51.51 | simonrvn | bpun: no |
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| 23:53.31 | niklas__ | Hey. I'm having a little problem with an unatteded install script for a few packages using apt-get. It sometimes get a question if may override an already present file, which i always must answer no to - is there a way to force this option? Can't find anything with google/man page regarding this issue |
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| 23:55.24 | musikgoat|main | hi, trying to unrar a multi part rar, and unrar-free seems to fail, and "package unrar is not available", is there an unrar-nonfree? |
| 23:55.31 | musikgoat|main | isn't that named unrar in debian? |
| 23:56.01 | simonrvn | niklas__: man dpkg; man apt-get |
| 23:56.02 | niklas__ | musikgoat|main: if i remember correctly, you must add the non-free collection in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:56.06 | abrotman | musikgoat|main: unrar is in non-free |
| 23:57.13 | musikgoat|main | is that the 2nd parameter after the mirror? deb http://mirroraddress lenny non-free ? |
| 23:57.30 | SQlvpapir | y |
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| 23:58.46 | musikgoat|main | awesome, thanks |
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| 23:59.54 | simonrvn | !non-free |
| 23:59.55 | dpkg | non-free is probably a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
