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| 00:05.41 | dreamer | hi all, silly question about permissions: I set up a vm with lighttpd and phpbb3, now I made a symlink from /usr/share/phpbb3/www/ to /var/www/<path>/ but on the site I get a 403 .. what permission is wrong and how do I fix it? :) |
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| 00:08.24 | cafuego | dreamer: Apache probably needs Options +FollowSymlinks |
| 00:08.36 | dreamer | cafuego: I'm not running apache |
| 00:08.43 | dreamer | like I said: lighttpd |
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| 00:10.55 | Sertse | hi |
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| 00:11.21 | horzuh | hi there Sertse |
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| 00:12.12 | Sertse | xfce 4.6 being upload to right now :D |
| 00:12.22 | Sertse | should get it next time mirrors are updated hopefully |
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| 00:14.45 | magyar | hi, what does compat mean in /etc/nsswitch.conf ? |
| 00:15.21 | aryah | hm, I dont seem to have a /dev/fb0 ? so mplayer tells me when I try to see a movie in CLI? am I missing some package? |
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| 00:15.54 | horzuh | I think /dev/fb0 is your floppy drive, equiv. to A:\ |
| 00:16.06 | AcTiVaTe | fb0 would be framebuffer0 |
| 00:16.07 | horzuh | not sure tho |
| 00:16.14 | horzuh | oh, sorry, i'm just stupid |
| 00:16.15 | aryah | its supposed to be framebuffer |
| 00:16.18 | AcTiVaTe | Something you would have with booting with vga=795 or something |
| 00:16.18 | aryah | :) |
| 00:16.35 | horzuh | its... the... uh.. loag |
| 00:16.36 | aryah | aha, so grub confing, i see |
| 00:16.37 | horzuh | lag* |
| 00:16.41 | horzuh | i'm really lagged |
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| 00:16.58 | horzuh | >.> |
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| 00:17.31 | AcTiVaTe | aryah: I always use vesafb, there are some other options depending on your hardware though. |
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| 00:21.29 | aryah | so.. its that commented defoptions line in men.lst , with vga=791 ? ony I should put vgafb instead? |
| 00:21.40 | aryah | *vesafb |
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| 00:23.37 | Bella | http://smekaren.mybrute.com |
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| 00:25.39 | aryah | or both? hm.. |
| 00:26.02 | horzuh | just go vga=792 or whatever mode you want. Always worked for me |
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| 00:35.50 | skilz | I want to mount my ntfs patition, but im not sure of the name in /dev, whats the command to do so please? |
| 00:36.13 | skilz | ive created a /mnt/d direcetory |
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| 00:37.30 | skilz | I want to mount my ntfs patition, but im not sure of the name in /dev, whats the command to do so please? |
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| 00:38.01 | ajavid | her |
| 00:38.02 | black9ice | any tips on which drivers to use for an 8800gtx? Debian includes or Nvidia cutting edge ones, I think 180.44? |
| 00:38.29 | lostson | i just use the ones in lenny |
| 00:38.38 | lostson | i believe they are the 173 ones |
| 00:39.59 | black9ice | lostson: just apt get them is pretty much it, sorry new to Debian |
| 00:40.22 | lostson | you have to have the non-free and contrib repos in your sources list |
| 00:40.29 | lostson | then you can apt get them yes |
| 00:40.42 | devicenull | what's the easiest way to create an automatic install of debian? |
| 00:40.49 | devicenull | I found the docs, but they list a few different methods |
| 00:41.37 | black9ice | lostson: I figured that much out... Guess then just a restart of X server then after and they should be good to go? |
| 00:42.05 | lostson | black9ice: make sure your xorg.conf is right or run nvidia-xconfig and it will build one for you |
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| 00:44.55 | jpinx | how do I see my local mac address? |
| 00:45.11 | AcTiVaTe | ifconfig should do that |
| 00:45.13 | skilz | I want to mount my ntfs patition, but im not sure of the name in /dev, whats the command to do so please? |
| 00:45.24 | jpinx | AcTiVaTe: ah - ok - thanks |
| 00:45.45 | AcTiVaTe | skilz: try an fdisk -l /dev/device where device is the disk the partition resides on |
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| 00:46.16 | higuita | jpinx: ifconfig |
| 00:46.20 | black9ice | lostson: doesnt seem to be loading... hmmm |
| 00:46.27 | lostson | what doesnt ? |
| 00:46.48 | black9ice | glxinfo, command not found |
| 00:47.07 | firefox | black9ice: mesa-utils |
| 00:47.09 | lostson | do you have mesa-utils installed ? |
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| 00:47.38 | black9ice | *slaps forehead* nope |
| 00:47.38 | skilz | im not sure which one it is |
| 00:47.54 | x1250 | skilz, just doing a fdisk -l (as root) will show you the list of partitions and the filesystem, forget about the /dev/device part. |
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| 00:48.39 | black9ice | ouch, yep not loading |
| 00:48.51 | skilz | ah sda3 |
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| 00:49.01 | nsadmin | skilz: then it's time to learn about how volumes work and are named in linux |
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| 00:49.10 | skilz | so whats the command to mount it now? |
| 00:49.17 | nsadmin | man mount |
| 00:49.37 | x1250 | skilz, use google, don't be lazy, |
| 00:49.49 | x1250 | or $ man mount :P |
| 00:49.53 | skilz | mount -t ntfs /dev/sda3 /mnt/d |
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| 00:50.16 | skilz | ive come up with that |
| 00:50.50 | nsadmin | if /mnt/d is where you want to mount it, that should be fine as long as /mnt/d exists and is a dir |
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| 00:52.09 | skilz | how can I mount it to read as user? |
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| 00:52.42 | nsadmin | you can set the permission bits in the mount command |
| 00:52.48 | nsadmin | see man mount for details |
| 00:52.49 | higuita | mount -t ntfs -o umask=022 blablabla |
| 00:53.03 | higuita | this will make it readonlyu for the user |
| 00:53.37 | higuita | umask=0 will make it read-write to all (if its possible to write) |
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| 00:59.34 | jpinx | skilz: if it's ntfs and you want to write - use ntfs-3g |
| 01:00.12 | skilz | thanks |
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| 01:01.40 | Anthro | I have an apt problem. I'm getting the following: "database /var/lib/apt/listchanges.db failed to load. Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30975, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored" |
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| 01:04.27 | dondelelcaro | Anthro: rm /var/lib/apt/listchanges.db; or move it away, and try again. |
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| 01:04.47 | black9ice | Grrr nvidia-xconfig command not found? |
| 01:04.51 | Anthro | dondelelcaro: Don't I need that? |
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| 01:05.07 | Anthro | dondelelcaro: It says to run recovery. Isn't there a way to do that? |
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| 01:05.46 | dondelelcaro | Anthro: you don't; it's just a database that listchanges uses. |
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| 01:06.03 | Anthro | dondelelcaro: Ah, okay. |
| 01:06.14 | dondelelcaro | (you could run the dbd recovery stuff on it, but it's almost certainly not worth the time) |
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| 01:10.19 | mib_qvr0mbef | I've just migrated a disk to a new core2 duo machine, using an ich10 chipset. Everything seems to come up fine except the audio and ethernet. the output from lcpci -v is here: http://pastebin.ca/1381427 . can someone point me in the direction to get this resolved? |
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| 01:14.20 | skilz | how do I get the the old winamp like xmms? |
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| 01:17.02 | jpinx | judd: versions xmms |
| 01:17.02 | judd | jpinx: xmms -- etch: 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 |
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| 01:17.33 | jpinx | skilz: xmms is not in lenny |
| 01:17.48 | skilz | so how do I get it? |
| 01:18.04 | skilz | Linux ironlak 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:18.06 | jpinx | use something else - like vlc |
| 01:18.25 | skilz | but I want xmms |
| 01:18.26 | firefox | skilz: xmms2 is there... just no gui... I hate when people offer alternatives,but I faced the same dilema and went with amarok |
| 01:18.41 | skilz | yeah I got it |
| 01:18.45 | Tramp | !xmms |
| 01:18.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, xmms is the old X MultiMedia System media player. It has been removed from Debian (although it is still in etch), see http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms/news/20080302T105714Z.html) For alternatives, look at <xmms2>, <rhythmbox>, <amarok>, exaile, songbird, quod libet ... see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html for removal reasons |
| 01:18.45 | firefox | skilz: its well worth a try |
| 01:19.04 | jpinx | judd: versions xmms2 |
| 01:19.05 | judd | jpinx: xmms2 -- etch: 0.2DrGonzo-4.1 lenny: 0.5DrLecter-2 sid: 0.5DrLecter-2 sid: 0.5DrLecter-2.1 squeeze: 0.5DrLecter-2.1 |
| 01:19.33 | jpinx | uses vlc now - very happily |
| 01:20.26 | skilz | can I add that url to sources? |
| 01:20.30 | skilz | to install xmms? |
| 01:20.51 | devicenull | is there a way to use m-a to install the openvm kernel modules |
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| 01:20.58 | devicenull | I dont see it listed in the list of modules |
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| 01:25.29 | mib_qvr0mbef | is the intel ich10 chipset (82801) supported in debian? |
| 01:26.38 | jpinx | for some strange reason when I do users I get my own user returned twice - how can I kill one of them? |
| 01:27.27 | simonrvn | jpinx: logged in twice? i get like 20 ;). |
| 01:27.31 | jpinx | who gives me my own username twice as well, once as tty7 and once as pts/0 |
| 01:27.49 | jpinx | is a bit confused |
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| 01:28.48 | jpinx | simonrvn: I get it that the tty process is me, but what's the pts/0 ? |
| 01:28.56 | nsadmin | jpinx: so you're telnetted/sshed in? |
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| 01:29.05 | jpinx | nsadmin: no |
| 01:29.20 | jpinx | this is me on my own laptop here |
| 01:29.22 | bzed | you're running any other kind of terminal? |
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| 01:29.25 | nsadmin | does it say the process id? |
| 01:29.55 | nsadmin | tty7 is usually where x is |
| 01:30.19 | nsadmin | so that login is probably your login to the *dm |
| 01:30.29 | jpinx | I did ps H x | grep ps and got 24840 pts/0 R+ 0:00 |
| 01:30.32 | nsadmin | then if you have a shell, that's another |
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| 01:30.52 | jpinx | nsadmin: that's it of course - it's the shell |
| 01:30.56 | simonrvn | pts/0 is probably a log in on console |
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| 01:31.07 | jpinx | ssorry guys - brainfart |
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| 01:31.32 | jpinx | opens another shell to prove the point |
| 01:31.42 | nsadmin | drives home the point that the shell occupies a process |
| 01:31.51 | black9ice | lostson: thanks I finally figured it out, had to apt get nvidia-xconfig and run it and all is well now |
| 01:31.57 | nsadmin | and otherwise acts like any other process |
| 01:32.15 | jpinx | nsadmin: totally :) |
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| 01:32.29 | dbbolton | how can i figure out whether some keys on my keyboard aren't working or they just aren't mapped properly |
| 01:33.07 | nsadmin | try running xev and hit those keys |
| 01:33.18 | simonrvn | !brainfart jpinx |
| 01:33.38 | simonrvn | !fart |
| 01:33.39 | dpkg | farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 01:33.45 | nsadmin | tinbf! |
| 01:34.00 | simonrvn | fire in the hole! |
| 01:34.03 | jpinx | goes back to sorting the sound for skype |
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| 01:34.15 | dbbolton | nsadmin unfortunately it's an AT keyboard, and the only computer i have with an AT input just has windows98 |
| 01:34.15 | nsadmin | fire from the hole you mean :P |
| 01:34.42 | simonrvn | heheh |
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| 01:34.58 | nsadmin | dbbolton: hmm, dunno how to do that from win |
| 01:35.03 | jpinx | blazing saddles;) |
| 01:35.23 | dbbolton | i want to install debian on it, but i have to hit DEL to get into its bios to change the boot order, and the DEL key doesn't seem to work |
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| 01:36.33 | jpinx | dbbolton: I had a similar problem once and solved it by removing all devices except the one with the installer on it and the machine eventually took the hint |
| 01:37.35 | jpinx | dbbolton: but it'll depend on your hardware and bios, and your ability to quickly slot in whatever you had to remove |
| 01:37.38 | dbbolton | jpinx, like disconnecting the hard disk and floppy drive? |
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| 01:39.05 | jpinx | dbbolton: yea - I was doing it to an ancient laptop and I just pulled the HDD out a couple of mms and then slotted it back in as soon as the bios had accepted the alternate boot device |
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| 01:39.56 | jpinx | dbbolton: but it very much depends on how forgiving your specific bios is, whether it looks for another device f the chosen one isn't there |
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| 01:40.14 | zu22 | how do u setup RAID in Debian? i am thinking of getting raid drives |
| 01:40.17 | zu22 | not sure difference between RAID-0 and RAID-1 |
| 01:40.21 | Lacrimas | Does anyone know how to setup a he ipv6 tunnel with /etc/network/interfaces in debian 5? |
| 01:40.34 | dbbolton | jpinx its amibios |
| 01:40.37 | d-b | Lacrimas: no but i use tspc |
| 01:40.41 | jpinx | dbbolton: anothe way is to run your box with a live CD and sort out the keyboard |
| 01:40.59 | jpinx | it might just be a bit of crud below the key;) |
| 01:41.01 | Lacrimas | Would it be similar d-b? |
| 01:41.08 | d-b | Lacrimas: i doubt it |
| 01:41.11 | d-b | tspc is nice ^^ |
| 01:41.17 | jpinx | or an old beer spill that has stuck |
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| 01:41.55 | d-b | Lacrimas: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/tspc-debian-ubuntu-linux-configure-ipv6-tunnel/ |
| 01:42.19 | Lacrimas | Well, the problem im getting with /etc/network/interfaces is the auto generated 'auto lo and 'iface lo inet loopback' are below the rest |
| 01:42.28 | Lacrimas | And then i have no internet connectivity |
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| 01:43.51 | hedos | Hi. I'm trying to install a .deb package with the dpkg -i command, however some dependencies are missing. |
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| 01:43.59 | hedos | Is there a way to automatically resolve the dependencies? |
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| 01:45.35 | firefox | hedos: --fix-missing? |
| 01:45.43 | black9ice | is there a howto somewhere on installing adobes flash 64 or 32 in Debian Lenny? |
| 01:46.45 | Lacrimas | Anyone good with he ipv6? |
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| 01:47.00 | d-b | black9ice: tis easy go to adobe, grab flash 10 beta for 64bit |
| 01:47.14 | miksuh | black9ice: # apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla (from debian-multimedia.org repository) |
| 01:47.14 | d-b | it can be installed to a users .mozilla/plugins dir |
| 01:47.16 | miksuh | or |
| 01:47.25 | d-b | that way you don't taint your entire system |
| 01:47.39 | miksuh | # apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree (from backports.org repository) |
| 01:48.44 | miksuh | black9ice: flashplayer-mozilla installs flah 9, flashplugin-nonfree installs glash 10 |
| 01:48.49 | miksuh | flash |
| 01:49.33 | devicenull | when using apt-proxy, do I just need one "deb" line in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 01:49.48 | devicenull | or do I need one for "/debian" and one for "/security" |
| 01:49.53 | miksuh | black9ice: if you install one of those, then make sure that package swfdec-mozilla is not installed |
| 01:50.26 | miksuh | # apt-get --purge remove swfdec-mozilla |
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| 01:50.41 | black9ice | ok I have libflashplayer.so where do I put it? |
| 01:51.06 | miksuh | black9ice: why don't you install flash using debian package as I said? |
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| 01:55.40 | Lacrimas | 'sit0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device' What does it mean by no such device for sit0? |
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| 01:57.39 | black9ice | miksuh: ok well using apt-get install it wont install, no install canidate |
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| 02:00.54 | black9ice | and I would like the 64 bit beta of flash10 |
| 02:01.18 | lostson | it is much easier to just download and install yourself black9ice |
| 02:01.24 | lostson | thats what i do with my 64 |
| 02:01.45 | black9ice | I have libflashplayer.so but I have no clue where to put it... lost in my filesystem atm lol |
| 02:01.56 | black9ice | well and drunk on top of it |
| 02:02.13 | lostson | go to your home dir |
| 02:02.34 | lostson | then go to .mozilla and create a dir called plugins and put that file in the plugins dir |
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| 02:02.40 | lostson | then you will have flash |
| 02:04.14 | black9ice | lostson: thanks man, perfect... |
| 02:04.24 | lostson | no problem |
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| 02:06.23 | miksuh | black9ice: add backports.org to your sources.list. Add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:06.47 | ssamoon | apt command to see files installed by package??... |
| 02:06.51 | miksuh | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 02:07.06 | miksuh | add that line to sources.list and then: |
| 02:07.48 | black9ice | miksuh: um but I already copied it over and works so why go through all that trouble? |
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| 02:08.12 | miksuh | you don't get any updates to flash if you install it that way |
| 02:09.05 | black9ice | miksuh: so um I manually update it when I want to get a new bug instead of the system telling me when to ;) |
| 02:09.07 | miksuh | black9ice: it's always better to install through package managhement if possible |
| 02:09.32 | black9ice | miksuh: um I disagree 100% |
| 02:09.50 | miksuh | black9ice: why? |
| 02:10.36 | black9ice | miksuh: some little things like a flash plugin,or even a kernel upgrade I may not want to be done a certain way |
| 02:11.09 | miksuh | you don't need to update all packages at the certain time even if you install those using package management |
| 02:11.22 | miksuh | so tjat is not any reason |
| 02:11.30 | black9ice | miksuh: maybe I want it done my way, isnt that what GNU/Linux software is about |
| 02:11.56 | miksuh | you can do it your way, but it does not mean it is better way to do it |
| 02:12.04 | miksuh | butwhat ever |
| 02:12.13 | black9ice | miksuh: I never said it was ;) |
| 02:12.34 | simonrvn | ssamoon: things aren't always done with apt, sometimes you need to use dpkg... |
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| 02:14.27 | black9ice | miksuh: you assumed I was implying that my ways are better, I just like to know what and where things are doing... sorry but I am just getting back into Linux and decided to give it a whirl, I have been around long enough |
| 02:15.08 | Xptical | I need a new VPS hosting provider. Any suggestions for a good unmanaged VPS? |
| 02:15.33 | jpinx | black9ice: if you are not sure of how to install something and you have to ask here, it is easier for you to use aptitude |
| 02:16.04 | Lacrimas | Xptical optikvps is pretty decent |
| 02:16.38 | Lacrimas | try openitc for eu |
| 02:16.58 | ssamoon | simonrvn: thanks, i'll check there, always forget about that |
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| 02:17.33 | simonrvn | ssamoon: :) |
| 02:18.16 | jpinx | ssamoon: not sure if it's what you need, but aptitude show package is useful sometimes |
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| 02:18.38 | ssamoon | dkpg -L <pkgname> was what i needed |
| 02:18.49 | ULFfuntu | hi anyone here use gxmms2? thx |
| 02:18.50 | ssamoon | s/dkpg/dpkg |
| 02:19.08 | Xptical | not looking good for optikvps. I can't reach their hiome page right now :\ |
| 02:20.22 | jeffrey_ | ssamoon: dpkg can only show the installed packages |
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| 02:20.44 | Lacrimas | Yea Xptical i think awknet is doing network upgrades because my vps is being weird |
| 02:20.58 | Xptical | kk |
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| 02:34.25 | Gruelius | ive got a list of repairs made by e2fsck, how do i find out which files were affected, all i see is inodes |
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| 02:37.08 | h0nk1 | hi ops, any chance #debian will be open to tor users some time? |
| 02:37.48 | adb | as /j #debian-tor ? |
| 02:38.46 | h0nk1 | no, as tor ... imho freenode takes decent care of nasty tor abuse already |
| 02:38.46 | hark | it's not? |
| 02:38.52 | h0nk1 | s/tor/debian |
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| 02:39.26 | h0nk1 | "you are banned ..." |
| 02:39.27 | mib_qvr0mbef | what is a good usb ethernet adapter to use with etch / lenny? |
| 02:40.16 | Arrowmaster | *!*@gateway/tor/* is banned and looks like its been banned for a while, the banlist is kinda long |
| 02:41.32 | hark | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor |
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| 02:44.07 | h0nk1 | hark: never set the gpg stuff up, I only use mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion if I'm behind prison walls |
| 02:44.14 | h0nk1 | ahm .. firewalls ;) |
| 02:45.48 | hark | h0nk1: you can access other channels? |
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| 02:46.16 | h0nk1 | yes, can't remember any that blocked me recently |
| 02:46.22 | hark | h0nk1: check with an op or something then |
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| 03:06.01 | devicenull | any ideas how I can figure out why tftpd-hpa refuses to start |
| 03:06.12 | Lacrimas | Does anyone know how to enable sit? |
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| 03:06.48 | martianlobster | can someone explain to me what a screen or display is? for example, if I run "startx -- :1" as opposed to "startx --:0" won't I just see an X screen come up? Whats the difference to the user? |
| 03:11.15 | jeffrey_ | devicenull: what's the error message? |
| 03:11.25 | devicenull | nm figured it out |
| 03:11.29 | h0nk1 | martianlobster: you can could think of screens as something like ports to which X apps can connect to open a window |
| 03:11.31 | devicenull | was a stupid error |
| 03:11.50 | h0nk1 | this is good so you can have multiple X servers running |
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| 03:12.18 | martianlobster | h0nk1: ok thanks |
| 03:12.29 | jeffrey_ | devicenull: if you figured things out, put here how you solved and others can read too. |
| 03:12.32 | martianlobster | h0nk1: so I could have one running on display 0, another running on display 1, etc |
| 03:12.49 | devicenull | my dhcp server was handing out the wrong tftp address |
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| 03:13.13 | Lacrimas | Does anyone know how to enable sit0? (IPv6 in IPv4 tunnel adaptor) |
| 03:13.21 | h0nk1 | martianlobster: just listen to grae on #gentoo |
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| 03:13.43 | martianlobster | h0nk1: ok |
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| 03:13.59 | Lacrimas | sit: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
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| 03:27.58 | Swilky | HI ALL! im trying to install linux from a usb drive, I can boot into the setup as per usual then it tells me it cant find a cd drive, so i made a syslink to /dev/sdb (usb drive) called /dev/cdrom/cdrom0 but it still wont work.... anyone got any idears... i thought it mite be becasue the file system is fat32 but so is the install cd. |
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| 03:28.07 | christ_ | hi |
| 03:28.14 | ndshacker | hi |
| 03:28.34 | ndshacker | what all does debian come with? |
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| 03:28.42 | ndshacker | does i include openoffice and such? |
| 03:28.49 | christ_ | I want to download debian, but How can I know what is in the cd1? Is X? A desktop envirnoment? |
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| 03:29.06 | ndshacker | cd1 includes everything i think |
| 03:30.31 | ndshacker | my rel question is: I am planning on being a Security Auditor whenI get older, and ofc i want to use Linux :) so should I ditch ubuntu? and go to Debian or something else? |
| 03:30.49 | ndshacker | since i will need to do programming, i am looking for the more reilient one |
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| 03:31.12 | rabiddachshund | I just installed Debian and it won't boot. All it does is give me a black screen, no login prompt. What's going on here? |
| 03:31.47 | jeffrey_ | rab: does this happen when it tries to boot X? |
| 03:32.11 | rabiddachshund | jeffrey_: I think so. I don't know much. I tried it in single user mode, same thing |
| 03:32.40 | ndshacker | how good is debian's briver support? |
| 03:33.52 | _Pete_ | ndshacker: as good it usually is in linux kernel |
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| 03:35.29 | jeffrey_ | rab: Do you boot to X automatically? |
| 03:35.58 | jeffrey_ | rab: you did not config Xorg correctly. Figure this out first on console. |
| 03:36.54 | rabiddachshund | jeffrey_: sorry, I didn't configure X. Nothing but default options on a fresh install using the newest version as of ~2 weeks ago |
| 03:38.19 | jeffrey_ | rab: the minimal install shouldn't start X automatically |
| 03:38.37 | pickcoder | the base install won't even install X |
| 03:39.17 | pickcoder | regardless single user does not launch run-level 5 |
| 03:39.40 | Lacrimas | Is anyone good with /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 03:39.43 | rabiddachshund | The last line says starting gdm |
| 03:39.44 | pickcoder | rabiddachshund: do you even get a grub boot menu? |
| 03:39.57 | rabiddachshund | pickcoder: yes |
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| 03:40.10 | _Pete_ | Lacrimas: what's the problem? |
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| 03:40.36 | pickcoder | rabiddachshund: then your xserver is the wrong one for your card or your screen can't handle the default resolution |
| 03:40.59 | Lacrimas | _Pete_: I'm trying to add some ipv6 stuff to it, in the interfaces.template file. But the auto generated stuff is below the ipv6 stuff, and then i get no connectivity. |
| 03:41.45 | _Pete_ | haven't use ipv6 stuff |
| 03:42.11 | pickcoder | rabiddachshund: try ctrl-alt-<minus on the numpad> |
| 03:42.23 | Lacrimas | _Pete_: The problem is, whatever i put in interfaces.template, then comes before the auto-generated stuff in interfaces. |
| 03:42.40 | Lacrimas | I belive auto lo and such should be first |
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| 03:42.57 | rabiddachshund | ah hah! I didn't realize that it asked for the root password about 5 lines above the last line. I'm logged into CLI now, so I should be able to reconfigure X |
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| 03:43.48 | _Pete_ | Lacrimas: http://pastebin.com/d41aeb0bc |
| 03:43.59 | _Pete_ | that's my working interfaces if it helps |
| 03:43.59 | rabiddachshund | uhm... there's no xorg.conf. |
| 03:44.11 | pickcoder | rabiddachshund: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 03:45.48 | rabiddachshund | Oh, duh. Thanks. I'm trying to get rid of Ubuntu, but failing miserably. I wish Ubuntu wasn't so damn easy to install; it makes all the good distros that much more frustrating. :/ |
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| 03:46.30 | oxymoron | not a debian issue per se, but does anyone know why my mrtg graphs are coming up blank? |
| 03:46.45 | oxymoron | just installed it on lenny.. snmpd not sending any data or something? :( |
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| 03:49.54 | pickcoder | oxymoron: snmpwalk |
| 03:50.12 | pickcoder | make sure you gave ACL for public readonly |
| 03:50.59 | oxymoron | I'm not a linux n00b, but definitely a network n00b. I set up snmpd.conf with com2sec readonly default public |
| 03:51.17 | pickcoder | and snmpwalk shows related info? |
| 03:51.18 | oxymoron | not sure which snmpwalk command to run, tried a few by googling |
| 03:51.18 | oxymoron | ks30876:/etc# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex |
| 03:51.18 | oxymoron | IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.127.0.0.1 = INTEGER: 1 |
| 03:51.18 | oxymoron | IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.213.[eth0publicip] = INTEGER: 2 |
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| 03:51.28 | oxymoron | my bad :| |
| 03:51.46 | oxymoron | ah that's not the one, I need the snmpwalk that shows the actual info eh |
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| 03:52.26 | pickcoder | has snmp been running long? |
| 03:52.51 | oxymoron | about 20 mins |
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| 03:54.09 | oxymoron | I'd love to learn snmp properly except I have to get mrtg up within 12 hours for a friend, sigh |
| 03:54.23 | oxymoron | wonders what part of the whole setup is being difficult |
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| 03:56.48 | pickcoder | oxymoron: how did you create the mrtg config |
| 03:57.35 | oxymoron | # cfgmaker public@localhost > /etc/mrtg.cfg then indexmaker /etc/mrtg.cfg > /var/www/mrtg/index.html |
| 03:58.11 | oxymoron | mrtg page shows the correct info and IP but no data's coming through: |
| 03:58.11 | oxymoron | In 0.0 B/s (0.0%) 0.0 B/s (0.0%) 0.0 B/s (0.0%) |
| 03:58.55 | pickcoder | restart mrtg |
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| 03:59.19 | pickcoder | or run the update script from cron |
| 03:59.30 | pickcoder | I don't remember if it's a daemon or not |
| 03:59.30 | oxymoron | (also 'snmpwalk localhost public' doesn't work hmf) |
| 03:59.37 | oxymoron | it's not, I'll run it |
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| 04:00.41 | oxymoron | ran it again, nothing in the log |
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| 04:00.51 | pickcoder | I've set it up several times on various machines but I don't have an active server running it |
| 04:01.00 | pickcoder | let me configure it on here |
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| 04:01.42 | oxymoron | would appreciate the help :) |
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| 04:02.10 | oxymoron | I've configured it before on various machines too - and never paid much attention to it because I never ran into problems |
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| 04:02.54 | oxymoron | I followed a few tutorials to the same end, the one I'm using now being http://www.debianadmin.com/mrtg-installation-and-configuration-in-debian-based-distributions-2.html |
| 04:02.59 | tielk | how do i change the default permissions that newly created /dev/pts/* get, so i don't have to always chmod g+rw |
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| 04:03.42 | pickcoder | hrm it's on here |
| 04:04.23 | oxymoron | I actually tried installing cacti too, which met the same result - graphs drawn as if no data was coming in |
| 04:04.38 | oxymoron | at least for the network interface |
| 04:07.33 | pickcoder | it's been working for a while now |
| 04:08.18 | pickcoder | oxymoron: make sure WorkDir: is correct in mrtg.cfg |
| 04:09.18 | oxymoron | it's set to /var/www/mrtg, which is the same dir that I use to access it via http |
| 04:09.36 | pickcoder | then check Target: tags and make sure they match the interface indexs in the snmpwalk |
| 04:10.52 | oxymoron | hmm, maybe if I change it to localhost in smpd.conf |
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| 04:13.46 | oxymoron | arrghh. mrtg.cfg target is Target[localhost_2]: 2:public@localhost: |
| 04:14.10 | oxymoron | I tried setting snmpd.conf to com2sec readonly localhost public |
| 04:14.10 | oxymoron | , com2sec readonly default public |
| 04:14.10 | oxymoron | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.28 | oxymoron | obviously restarting snmpd every time and running the mrtg cronjob |
| 04:14.35 | oxymoron | no joy. bloody hell. |
| 04:14.36 | pickcoder | com2sec readonly default public |
| 04:14.53 | oxymoron | yeah that's what it was on when I started |
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| 04:14.59 | oxymoron | I tried the other two and put it back to that |
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| 04:15.10 | pickcoder | delete the /var/www/mrtg folder and create the index |
| 04:15.35 | oxymoron | whoa |
| 04:15.37 | oxymoron | wait. |
| 04:15.49 | oxymoron | you've GOT to be kidding me. one sec |
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| 04:17.02 | oxymoron | it... works. I commented out the com2sec readonly default public I added to the end of the community block |
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| 04:17.08 | oxymoron | and uncommented the one that was there already |
| 04:17.27 | oxymoron | the only thing that's different is that it's two lines higher in the snmpd.conf and the spacing |
| 04:17.57 | pickcoder | bed time for me |
| 04:17.58 | oxymoron | still has no clue what just happened but his mrtg works now... |
| 04:18.05 | oxymoron | thanks pickcoder ;) |
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| 04:18.14 | pickcoder | well at least you figured it out |
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| 05:10.16 | WormFood | does anyone have a fuckin clue as to why the nvidia drivers won't install? it keeps complaining about a missing kernel.h file, but it is fuckin' there! I've change the --kernel-source-path to where I know it is, but it still claims it is not there. |
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| 05:11.03 | WormFood | this fuckin' shit is driving me crazy....THE FUCKIN' HEADER FILES ARE EXACTLY WHERE THIS PIECE OF SHIT INSTALLER SAYS THEY ARE NOT! |
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| 05:11.49 | gewt | fun |
| 05:12.11 | Wyzard | WormFood: Why not use the packaged driver? |
| 05:12.52 | WormFood | because it is not the driver from nvidia |
| 05:13.15 | Wyzard | not the nv one |
| 05:13.20 | Wyzard | I mean the packages of nVidia's driver |
| 05:13.37 | Wyzard | including precompiled modules for Debian's kernels |
| 05:13.43 | WormFood | the open source nvidia drivefrs? |
| 05:13.49 | Wyzard | no |
| 05:14.00 | Wyzard | the Debian package of the non-free driver that you are trying to install manually |
| 05:14.45 | WormFood | where? |
| 05:14.57 | Wyzard | it's in non-free |
| 05:14.59 | WormFood | if I could have found a package for it, then I sure as fuck wouldn't be fighting with installing it manually |
| 05:15.10 | WormFood | I don't see it |
| 05:15.10 | Wyzard | nvidia-glx and one of the nvidia-kernel-* packages |
| 05:15.18 | Wyzard | Do you have non-free in your sources.list? |
| 05:15.18 | WormFood | what is the name of the package? |
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| 05:15.42 | Wyzard | "nvidia-glx" and a variety of packages with "nvidia-kernel" in their names |
| 05:15.50 | WormFood | nvidia-glx depends on nvidia-kernel-180.29 but it is not installable |
| 05:16.14 | WormFood | there....it does not fuckin' work |
| 05:16.14 | WormFood | it is broken |
| 05:16.14 | WormFood | that is why I'm trying to install it manually |
| 05:16.15 | stew | WormFood: read the package description of nvidia-glx |
| 05:16.31 | Wyzard | That's a virtual package name, which is provided by the kernel-version-specific nvidia-kernel packages |
| 05:16.51 | WormFood | what is the command to get the package description? |
| 05:17.05 | Wyzard | apt-cache show nvidia-glx |
| 05:17.11 | stew | i can't believe you run sid |
| 05:17.12 | WormFood | I've tried to install what appears to be the right packages, but for one reason or another it won't install |
| 05:17.31 | Wyzard | but that actually refers you to nvidia-kernel-source and building the modules manually, which is only necessary if you run a custom kernel, not one of the stock ones |
| 05:17.34 | Wyzard | What kernel are you running? |
| 05:18.33 | WormFood | I'm running the stock 2.6.29-686 kernel |
| 05:19.14 | Wyzard | What does "uname -r" say? |
| 05:19.45 | WormFood | 2.6.29-1-686 |
| 05:20.29 | hark | WormFood: the prebuilt modules are not available for that kernel, you'll have to use m-a |
| 05:20.36 | Wyzard | hmm, I don't think sid has prebuilt nvidia-kernel modules |
| 05:20.48 | Wyzard | Install module-assistant and run "module-assistant auto-install nvidia-kernel" |
| 05:21.05 | WormFood | it does, just not for the kernel I'm running |
| 05:21.09 | Wyzard | That'll build and install an nvidia-kernel-2.6.29-1-686 package, which is the kernel modules for the nvidia driver |
| 05:21.11 | hark | it has for 2.26 iirc |
| 05:21.18 | WormFood | I see modules for 2.6.26 |
| 05:21.31 | Wyzard | and that package provides the virtual package name "nvidia-kernel-180.29" so you can then install nvidia-glx |
| 05:21.49 | Lacrimas | Does anyone know how to enable sit (networking) |
| 05:22.08 | streuner | Whats about the kbuild (.29), is that solved (license issues)? |
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| 05:22.28 | hark | streuner: yeah, it's in sid |
| 05:22.51 | Wyzard | streuner: what sort of license issues? |
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| 05:23.28 | hark | Wyzard: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2009/02/msg00567.html |
| 05:23.54 | Wyzard | ah, ok |
| 05:24.01 | Wyzard | just incorrect documentation, not some fundamental problem |
| 05:24.41 | WormFood | Wyzard, the module-assistant command you gave me gives me an error...it says "Build of the package nvidia-kernel-source failed!..." |
| 05:25.04 | hark | WormFood: pastebin the error |
| 05:27.53 | Wyzard | wonders why 2.6.29 hasn't become the default kernel yet in sid |
| 05:28.12 | Lacrimas | Does anyone know how to enable sit (networking) need it for he ipv6 tunnel |
| 05:28.46 | Wyzard | Lacrimas: There's a "sit" module |
| 05:29.03 | Wyzard | IIRC, loading that gives you a "sit0" interface |
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| 05:29.32 | Lacrimas | Ooh |
| 05:29.44 | Lacrimas | Yea that'd probably help because at the moment i have 'sit0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device' |
| 05:30.09 | hark | WormFood: oh wait, you're running i386... if it's Makefile_32.cpu related, check the bts |
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| 05:30.42 | WormFood | this is fuckin' frustrating as hell.....both the debian package and the nvidia package gives me the same error messages |
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| 05:30.54 | Lacrimas | Wyzard: where can i get the module? |
| 05:31.08 | _Pete_ | WormFood: I tried the same and failed. now back in 2.6.26 |
| 05:31.12 | Wyzard | Lacrimas: shoudl be part of the standard kernel |
| 05:31.23 | hark | WormFood: why are you running sid then? if you can't deal with such things stay with stable or something |
| 05:31.25 | Lacrimas | It doesn't appear in ifconfig -a |
| 05:31.37 | Lacrimas | Is there a way to enable it in? |
| 05:31.39 | WormFood | the nvidia package is telling me i can't find version.h...but when I go into the directory to manually make the module, I get the same error as I do with the debian package when trying to install manually |
| 05:32.06 | WormFood | ok, I have to leave soon...maybe 15 minutes |
| 05:32.14 | hark | WormFood: run m-a prepare first |
| 05:32.22 | Wyzard | WormFood: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=521472 seems to be the bug that hark was referring to |
| 05:32.34 | WormFood | m-a? |
| 05:32.44 | Wyzard | m-a is a nickname for module-assistant |
| 05:32.59 | WormFood | oh |
| 05:32.59 | WormFood | I see |
| 05:33.38 | Lacrimas | Wyzard: how would i go about enabling this from the kernel? |
| 05:33.56 | Wyzard | Lacrimas: modprobe sit |
| 05:34.19 | Lacrimas | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2/modules.dep: |
| 05:34.20 | WormFood | ok, m-a prepare did nothing |
| 05:34.35 | hark | i thought sit0 was deprecated now |
| 05:34.37 | Wyzard | Lacrimas: That's not a Debian kernel... looks like a RedHat kernel, actually |
| 05:34.58 | Lacrimas | It's debian 4 |
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| 05:35.32 | somnambulant | if i'm going to install ruby on a server just in case i need it for an app, should I install 1.8 or 1.9? |
| 05:35.32 | Wyzard | "2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2" is not a kernel that Debian has ever released |
| 05:35.45 | Lacrimas | the kernel might have been modified, (vps kernel) |
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| 05:36.04 | batcoder-7 | is there anything better then openoffice |
| 05:36.04 | Wyzard | OK, a VM running Debian with a RedHat host kernel |
| 05:36.19 | Lacrimas | Ah, that could be it Wyzard :] |
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| 05:36.27 | Lacrimas | My bad - linux noob lol |
| 05:36.53 | Wyzard | Lacrimas: If it's the type of virtualization system that shares a single kernel among multiple guests (such as vserver or openvz), you probably can't load kernel modules from within a guest |
| 05:37.09 | Lacrimas | Ah ok, i'll open a ticket and have them load it |
| 05:37.38 | somnambulant | Lacrimas: if it's unmanaged they may not want to :) |
| 05:37.59 | Lacrimas | They've given me a clear before about it |
| 05:38.07 | Lacrimas | If you require any modules enabled for your VPS in order to make use of a tunnel broker simply let us know. |
| 05:38.51 | somnambulant | Lacrimas: who is your provider if i might ask.. i'm looking for a good vps host |
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| 05:39.04 | Lacrimas | this is for my eu host, openitc.co.uk |
| 05:39.15 | Lacrimas | i use optikvps for us |
| 05:39.20 | somnambulant | k thx |
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| 05:43.35 | izua | is it normal for amarok to randomly delete files it doesn't like? |
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| 05:44.52 | izua | i have a bunch of music folders, all with a m3u per folder + sfv + nfo |
| 05:45.04 | izua | along with other stuff, album art, lyrics, band info, etc.. |
| 05:45.18 | izua | every time i rescan the library, they are deleted |
| 05:46.12 | hark | WormFood: check the bts, seems to be an issue with 2.6.29. you can use the 2.6.26 kernel instead. that should work fine |
| 05:46.41 | WormFood | jesus! so it is nvidia's problem? |
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| 05:47.19 | hark | !dbugs 520706 |
| 05:47.23 | dpkg | #520706:I[nvidia-kernel-source] nvidia-kernel-source: fails to build modules against 2.6.29 or later linux-headers packages (); Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:21:02 UTC [] |
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| 05:48.11 | WormFood | that is because of a missing header file...which appears to be in my header files |
| 05:48.58 | WormFood | a post in the nivida forum, someone says they were able to "fix" it by compiling a new kernel from source |
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| 05:49.47 | WormFood | in either case, I can't look at this any more ,as I need to leave to pick up my friend from the train station....I'll fight with this more later...thanks for the help guys, now I have some more info to go on |
| 05:50.04 | Wyzard | WormFood: Stick with 2.6.26 until it's resolved... I doubt you specifically need 2.6.29 |
| 05:50.10 | Wyzard | and 2.6.26 is still the default in sid anyway |
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| 05:57.05 | Lacrimas | somnambulant: Did ya check optik out? |
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| 06:01.26 | batcoder-7 | anyone here atouch typer? |
| 06:01.43 | Wyzard | batcoder-7: "typist", but yes, probably lots of people are |
| 06:01.45 | Lacrimas | sort of |
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| 06:02.21 | batcoder-7 | what is the correct way to capitalize a letter and or use any shift related key |
| 06:02.45 | Wyzard | batcoder-7: Press the shift key with the little finger of the hand that isn't typing the letter |
| 06:03.05 | batcoder-7 | that is what i thought |
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| 06:03.16 | batcoder-7 | so using the same hand is a no no right ? |
| 06:03.35 | Wyzard | afaik, yes |
| 06:03.48 | batcoder-7 | using the same hand is a but awkward need to fix that |
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| 06:03.53 | hark | right shift-key for keys on the left side and vice versa |
| 06:03.58 | batcoder-7 | i am a pretty good touch typer now actually |
| 06:04.20 | batcoder-7 | so glad i dont type all stupid like I used too |
| 06:04.30 | batcoder-7 | i can't even go back to my old ways |
| 06:04.39 | batcoder-7 | i value a keyboard so much more now |
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| 06:05.54 | hark | it's a big payoff investing just a little time learning to touch type |
| 06:06.01 | batcoder-7 | do any of you guys here have any special keyboard that you guys like to use? |
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| 06:06.22 | batcoder-7 | hark, oh yea been on it for about 1.5 months now |
| 06:06.27 | batcoder-7 | never look at the keyboard |
| 06:06.33 | Lacrimas | just my normal keyboard that i got with my hp lol |
| 06:06.42 | batcoder-7 | and i am getting faster and faster the more i type |
| 06:06.42 | hark | batcoder-7: try out gtypist |
| 06:07.05 | Wyzard | I use a generic Dell keyboard |
| 06:07.19 | batcoder-7 | i got one of these ergonomic keyboards and it is the best keyboard that i have ever used in my life |
| 06:07.26 | technoid- | I used to have an IBM type M that didn't have the numberpad on it, was a great size |
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| 06:07.32 | technoid- | and heavy duty |
| 06:07.36 | batcoder-7 | i hate generic dell keyboards |
| 06:08.03 | batcoder-7 | do any of you guys here use a generic dell mouse |
| 06:08.44 | Lacrimas | generic HP :P |
| 06:08.54 | technoid- | generic hp here at work |
| 06:09.04 | batcoder-7 | i mean what do you think the dpi is of these generic mouses ? |
| 06:09.19 | batcoder-7 | 400? |
| 06:09.22 | batcoder-7 | or like 200 |
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| 06:09.33 | Lacrimas | dunno |
| 06:09.42 | Lacrimas | works fine though |
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| 06:09.56 | batcoder-7 | this is just a generic logitech dell mouse i am using now |
| 06:10.09 | batcoder-7 | trying to figure out what the dpi is of it |
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| 06:10.27 | batcoder-7 | is there any way i can do that |
| 06:10.39 | batcoder-7 | there is no model numbers nothing like that on it |
| 06:10.55 | Wyzard | Look it up on Dell's site |
| 06:11.06 | Wyzard | as if you were going to buy one |
| 06:11.09 | Wyzard | They should have specs somewhere |
| 06:11.42 | batcoder-7 | i dont think they put that kind of stuff up for those generic mouses like that |
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| 06:11.47 | batcoder-7 | this is an old mouse as well |
| 06:11.50 | batcoder-7 | like 04 |
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| 06:12.04 | batcoder-7 | so they most likely use a newer one |
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| 06:16.55 | batcoder-7 | so is there any real way to figure out the dpi of the mouse or no ? |
| 06:17.07 | batcoder-7 | hmmm |
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| 06:24.54 | vkab | need help with setting up my vps; x-server on my windows machine and vps as a client - any help? |
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| 06:50.44 | Shtl | Hello all, one of the code contains "net-snmp/net-snmp-includes.h" and "#include <net-snmp/net-snmp-config.h>" include files, i want to compile it, which package i have to install for these file to be available |
| 06:52.00 | liable | Shtl: /msg dpkg search |
| 06:52.07 | hark | Shtl: /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 06:52.53 | hark | !qotd0 |
| 06:52.54 | dpkg | <nevyn_> lazybone: DIE <lazybone> nevyn_: What is DIE? |
| 06:53.16 | doomster | hi! |
| 06:55.53 | liable | aloha |
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| 06:58.41 | phantomcircuit | so im an idiot and i accidentally corrupted some files for the gtk package |
| 06:58.45 | phantomcircuit | how can i fix this? |
| 06:58.50 | dondelelcaro | phantomcircuit: reinstall it |
| 06:59.05 | phantomcircuit | how? |
| 06:59.16 | dondelelcaro | phantomcircuit: with aptitude reinstall foopkgthatcontainsfilesyoucorrupted; |
| 06:59.29 | phantomcircuit | nvm |
| 06:59.32 | phantomcircuit | heh yeah |
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| 07:13.20 | Man_of_Wax | why isn't there a eclipse 3.4 packages? It pretty old already... |
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| 07:15.03 | natrixnatrix89 | hi guys. does anyone know how to create a network boot? |
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| 07:21.18 | paxcoder | ot: does anyone know how to make a horizontal bar (as in: dividing both sides of an equation) in OpenOffice formula? Like this: a/2 = b/2 |*2 |
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| 07:28.19 | paxcoder | \rline |
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| 07:30.33 | cornfused | Hi, I am trying to get debian onto a bootable USB with an encrypted hard drive. Currently I am having a problem with cryptroot. The error it gives is that it cannot find /dev/disk/by-uuid/<UUID> where UUID is the correct UUID for that partition. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? |
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| 07:31.53 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 07:32.04 | man_in_shack | i'm having some trouble with xscreensaver on unstable |
| 07:32.11 | man_in_shack | it's not accepting my password when i lock the screen |
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| 07:33.06 | valdyn | cornfused: use UUID=, not /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 07:33.22 | cornfused | valdyn: alright, I'll try it |
| 07:33.41 | cornfused | man_in_shack: sounds like a problem in /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver |
| 07:33.59 | cornfused | or possibly /etc/pam.d/xscreensaver |
| 07:34.30 | man_in_shack | cornfused, http://rafb.net/p/1DCZD387.html << that's what i have |
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| 07:35.37 | cornfused | man_in_shack: compare that to gdm (or whatever you use) |
| 07:36.16 | cornfused | or rather, I should ask, what is in common-auth |
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| 07:36.45 | man_in_shack | http://rafb.net/p/izGfH548.html << gdm |
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| 07:37.07 | man_in_shack | http://rafb.net/p/4uTxFu63.html << common-auth |
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| 07:38.15 | superjet_busy | how to put /opt/lib before /usr/lib when compiling, gcc always search /usr/lib first, LD_LIBRARY_PATH and put somethings under ld.conf.d seems not work |
| 07:38.56 | cornfused | man_in_shack: for a normal Unix account, those seem legitimate to me... |
| 07:39.36 | valdyn | superjet_busy: man gcc, see -L switch |
| 07:39.41 | man_in_shack | cornfused, which? :) |
| 07:39.59 | superjet_busy | valdyn: thanks! |
| 07:40.53 | cornfused | man_in_shack: all of them |
| 07:41.17 | man_in_shack | ok |
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| 07:42.14 | man_in_shack | so any ideas? |
| 07:42.32 | man_in_shack | xscreensaver keeps saying "Authentication failed" when i put in my password to unlock it |
| 07:42.48 | valdyn | !sid faq |
| 07:42.49 | dpkg | http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html or http://weda.mine.nu/sidfaq.html (mirror), it doesn't hurt if you read the FAQ, even if you are using testing/lenny... |
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| 07:42.54 | valdyn | man_in_shack: have you checked the bts? |
| 07:43.07 | man_in_shack | maybe :P |
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| 07:44.11 | man_in_shack | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=519061 << ah, this report seems to hit the nail on the head |
| 07:44.18 | man_in_shack | cos my ia32 laptop seems to unlock fine |
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| 07:48.57 | zxxd | hey |
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| 07:49.13 | nodanoda | hi, which cd does contain oppenoffice in lenny? |
| 07:49.49 | man_in_shack | interesting |
| 07:49.59 | man_in_shack | my laptop has two xscreensaver files in /etc/pam.d |
| 07:50.13 | zxxd | something is wrong with my getty , I can't get any keyboard input when I am in run level 2 , I am using xen if that matters |
| 07:50.45 | zxxd | run level 3 same problem |
| 07:50.47 | cornfused | valdyn: didn't work with UUID= |
| 07:50.50 | zxxd | so I think it's getty |
| 07:52.24 | valdyn | cornfused: in /etc/fstab? the right UUID ? |
| 07:52.46 | cornfused | valdyn: it can't get to /etc/fstab, the root filesystem is encrypted |
| 07:53.21 | cornfused | it is the correct UUID, but it's going into /etc/crypttab (and then into the initrd when 'update-initramfs -u' is run) |
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| 07:54.07 | valdyn | cornfused: i dont see uuid documented in the manpage |
| 07:54.13 | valdyn | cornfused: maybe it cant work that way |
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| 07:54.22 | valdyn | cornfused: i suppose you are using the uuid of the ext3 fs? |
| 07:54.30 | cornfused | no, actually |
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| 07:54.43 | cornfused | the UUID of the encrypted partition |
| 07:54.47 | valdyn | cornfused: ok |
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| 07:55.13 | cornfused | (which btw is XFS, but it has a seperate UUID for the XFS filesystem) |
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| 08:03.33 | man_in_shack | i think i've stumbled upon the problem, or at least a related problem |
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| 08:04.41 | Pulpie | i get "The panel encountered a problem while loading, OAFIID: GNOME_MixerApllet". Do you want to delete the applet? |
| 08:04.44 | Pulpie | " |
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| 08:06.10 | Pulpie | what can i do about this? |
| 08:06.19 | man_in_shack | ok, no, haven't :) |
| 08:06.22 | man_in_shack | *:( |
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| 08:07.03 | asperon | can anybody recommend a xmltv based pvr solution that works with debian, and only via webinterface/cli? |
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| 08:08.42 | Pulpie | is it possible to get a default install of debian without uninstalling the os? |
| 08:08.52 | Pulpie | or installing over it |
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| 08:13.11 | GhostlyDeath | Is there a way to have gnome-terminal not use anti-aliasing? |
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| 08:13.21 | GhostlyDeath | because everything else isn't anti-aliased. only gnome-terminal |
| 08:13.39 | Pulpie | its in the profile options |
| 08:14.55 | GhostlyDeath | I don't see an option that says such things |
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| 08:20.38 | AleUdin | on my debian /dev/lp0 and /dev/parport0 doesn't exist. i need them someone can help me? |
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| 08:22.36 | AleUdin | on my debian /dev/lp0 and /dev/parport0 doesn't exist. i need them someone can help me? |
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| 08:22.39 | nsadmin | AleUdin: perhaps parallel ports are supported differently in linux these days... you might look into tyhat |
| 08:23.01 | cahoot | AleUdin: parport_lp and lp loaded? |
| 08:23.25 | cahoot | err parport_pc |
| 08:23.48 | nsadmin | also you didn't think repeating every five seconds would tend to annoy 870 folks? :) |
| 08:23.54 | AleUdin | cahoot no .. on /etc/modules i have only loop |
| 08:24.19 | cahoot | AleUdin: see what lsmod gives |
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| 08:24.45 | AleUdin | i'm modprobe lp and parport_pc .. |
| 08:24.54 | AleUdin | lsmod now give me also them |
| 08:25.12 | nsadmin | now do you have /dev/lp0? |
| 08:25.37 | AleUdin | yes |
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| 08:26.19 | AleUdin | so i can add to /etc/modules lp and all will work at next reboot? |
| 08:26.31 | nsadmin | try it and see |
| 08:26.33 | AleUdin | k |
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| 08:27.03 | nsadmin | why just give you the answer when you already right now know the steps to find out for yourself? |
| 08:27.12 | AleUdin | ok i'm rebooting .. |
| 08:27.45 | AleUdin | i have in /etc/modules also "loop" .. what is it? |
| 08:27.56 | nsadmin | look into it |
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| 08:28.02 | AleUdin | is for loop interface? |
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| 08:28.08 | nsadmin | google works |
| 08:28.11 | AleUdin | k |
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| 08:29.06 | kernel | hello i've apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libqt4-dev,and now this error qtconfig-qt4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv |
| 08:29.54 | AleUdin | ok there is lp0 .. but i need parport0 .. it's the same? |
| 08:30.02 | nsadmin | kernel: what is your uname -r and cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:30.43 | kernel | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 08:30.46 | kernel | squeeze/sid |
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| 08:31.11 | nsadmin | and which do you run, squeeze or sid? |
| 08:31.37 | AleUdin | unable to claim /dev/lp0 i think is not the same XD |
| 08:31.38 | kernel | squeeze testing |
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| 08:32.46 | nsadmin | AleUdin: perhaps parallel ports are supported differently in linux these days... you might look into that |
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| 08:34.28 | AleUdin | nsadmin i've created a c script for program the parallel port .. i need to turnon some relays .. but i need parport0 dev file |
| 08:34.45 | nsadmin | in linux you don't really have a choice... you -have- to understand your hardware, "where" it is, how it works and especially how the kernel supports it |
| 08:35.34 | nsadmin | perhaps there are other modules that contain "parport" in their name |
| 08:35.46 | AleUdin | in my pc i have ubuntu and all works fine .. my server have debian but it don't have this file .. |
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| 08:36.16 | AleUdin | i have modprobe parport_pc .. but it don't add parport0 |
| 08:36.46 | AleUdin | do you think that a reboot should help? |
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| 08:37.15 | Zvpun | how can I see the startup and boot messages? |
| 08:37.35 | kernel | nsadmin how can solved? |
| 08:37.43 | orgthingy | Zvpun: the auth ? |
| 08:37.46 | AleUdin | Zvpun try f1 or alt f1 |
| 08:37.56 | Zvpun | orgthingy: ? |
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| 08:38.14 | Zvpun | once X starts I cant scroll up at the F1 terminal |
| 08:38.26 | nsadmin | try dmesg |
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| 08:38.44 | Zvpun | that's only kernel messages |
| 08:39.00 | Zvpun | There was something about utf8 and ntfs I dont know where to look for it. |
| 08:39.55 | nsadmin | kernel: what version of debian are these things you've installed for? |
| 08:40.12 | AleUdin | nsadmin: if i "mknod -m 666 /dev/parport0 c 99 0" all works well .. |
| 08:40.35 | kernel | nsadmin: testing |
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| 08:41.19 | nsadmin | kernel: which you're running. do you have any packages meant for a different version of debian, especially libs? |
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| 08:44.06 | kernel | nsadmin: i've only apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libqt4-dev |
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| 08:45.06 | nsadmin | kernel: then there is a bug. your best bet is to check the bts (wait, you already did that before you asked, yes?) to see if there's a problem with those two libs, and if not file a bug report |
| 08:46.16 | nsadmin | kernel: you looking to compile something? |
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| 09:02.25 | pro-rsoft | Is it possible to have multiple Build-Depends lines in a debian file? |
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| 09:03.39 | man_in_shack | pro-rsoft, why do you need multiple build-depends? |
| 09:04.21 | pro-rsoft | well it gets kinda unreadable with such a long line |
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| 09:08.44 | Zvpun | I suppose that multiple build-depends lines makes parsing horrible. I'd try with adding a "\" followed by a newline at the end. |
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| 09:09.57 | pro-rsoft | hm. |
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| 09:11.22 | sky_ | Hi |
| 09:12.00 | sky_ | Can i completly resize my HDD with debian.netinstall and create 2 BIG partition ? |
| 09:13.15 | Zvpun | I would use gparted live CD for resizing partitions. I think you cannot resize with the debian installer only create and delete partitions |
| 09:13.27 | Zvpun | sky_: why do you want 2 partitions and not 1? |
| 09:13.30 | man_in_shack | you can't resize your HDD. partitions are another matter |
| 09:13.51 | sky_ | i want completly switch from Ubuntu to Debian and PCBSD |
| 09:14.11 | man_in_shack | gparted livecd is very good |
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| 09:15.19 | sky_ | can i choose on netinstall GRUB2 ? |
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| 09:16.23 | sky_ | Because on BSD is BTX loader bugged and they said me that on GRUB2 is easy to make dual boot with Linux and BSD |
| 09:17.26 | orgthingy | you can run GRUB for almost any OS.. |
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| 09:17.38 | LiCeT | hi all |
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| 09:19.05 | sky_ | i had Ubuntu as stable and Debian as experimental and i think now i am have more experience and i can switch to Debian as my primary OS and PCBSD as my experemintal |
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| 09:19.35 | lbt | can I shomehow "install" a .deb within my ~/ as an ordinary user |
| 09:20.07 | Zvpun | sky_: do you want to resize or can you delete and create partitions on your HD? |
| 09:20.40 | Zvpun | lbt: you can unpack them. I use midnight commander to do so, the scripts are not run that way. |
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| 09:21.32 | sky_ | i want completly create one full partition (because now i have 4 partitions -> Ubuntu, Debian Squeezy, fat32, and ufs)...and then resize it to 2 partitions for ext3 (Debian) and ufs (PCBSD) |
| 09:21.53 | lbt | OK, ta Zvpun - wasn't sure if dpkg had a --rootdir or something |
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| 09:24.27 | Zvpun | lbt: I dont know if there is another (better) way. dont take my advice as final! |
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| 09:25.18 | Zvpun | sky_: if you delete the 4 partitions and create 2 new partition every data is lost. Its easier to do so than resizing. If you want to save your data, you have to resize or create an external backup. |
| 09:25.19 | lbt | ok - I'll hang on... (the dpkg way needs a full chroot from what I see) |
| 09:25.44 | Zvpun | lbt: please share your knowledge, I am very much interested in user install too. |
| 09:26.18 | sha16 | hello, yesterday i have upgraded from Etch to Lenny using #aptitude full-upgrade, from then i got two problems, im unable to access to internet (i can ping to gateway, but pinging to google gives me 'Unknown host' error, all DNS and ip set right only) and other problem is im not getting graphics, starting in text mode. Is there any workaround here? |
| 09:26.18 | lbt | oh, just looking at --root and --force not-root in man dpkg |
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| 09:27.10 | sky_ | Zvpun: dont need to save my data all what i want is on FTP :) |
| 09:27.28 | Zvpun | sky_: then I suggest you delete all partitions and create 2 new |
| 09:27.39 | Zvpun | sky_: you can do that with any partition tool, including the debian-installer |
| 09:28.12 | Zvpun | sha16: can you ping the nameserver from /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 09:28.38 | Zvpun | sha16: what about "dig google.com" |
| 09:29.00 | sky_ | Zvpun: ok thank you very much |
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| 09:29.47 | sha16 | Zvpun: i need to switch to debian to check all those.. plz tell me what more i need to look for.. ? |
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| 09:33.02 | Zvpun | sha16: it depends :-(. How do you connect to the interent, via router and dhcp? |
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| 09:33.53 | sha16 | Zvpun, im using router, and shared connection in LAN... |
| 09:33.54 | Zvpun | sha16: config is at /etc/network/interfaces; /sbin/ifconfig eth0 shows information; resolv.conf holds the nameserver but is set automatically (to my knowledge) |
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| 09:34.44 | Zvpun | sha16: if ping works, your got your card setup correctly |
| 09:35.36 | Zvpun | sha16: thats my /etc/netwrok/interfaces http://pastebin.com/m214589fb |
| 09:35.48 | sha16 | zvpun: in resolv.conf, i set the nameservers correct only.. i mean i was browsing internet properly when using Etch and yeah Ping to gateway works "perfectly" |
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| 09:35.53 | Zvpun | sha16: I also connect via dhcp + router, I have no other config |
| 09:35.55 | sha16 | zvpun: ok i'll paste |
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| 09:37.29 | sha16 | zvpun: FYI, im not using DHCP... , mine is static IP address |
| 09:38.20 | frankS2 | damn, pulseaudio sucks |
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| 09:38.33 | rhineheart_m | what does this mean? The operation could not be completed because the fsockopen function has been disabled or the server being queried could not be found. |
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| 09:39.23 | Zvpun | sha16: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/interfaces they have dns-nameservers in their interfaces |
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| 09:41.59 | Zvpun | sha16: I am not sure whether you need resolvconf installed for the dns-options to work. |
| 09:42.23 | Zvpun | sha16: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html |
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| 09:43.33 | sha16 | Zvpun, thank you so much for those references, i'll look into it and get back after testing.. thanks again :) |
| 09:44.12 | Viper-7 | can anyone just give me a push in the right direction? or is this not possible at all with this card maybe? |
| 09:44.13 | Viper-7 | root@catapult:~# iwconfig wlan0 mode master |
| 09:44.13 | Viper-7 | Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument. |
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| 09:44.20 | gps23 | hi |
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| 09:45.45 | gps23 | my iceweasel is not running, i installed it using aptitude and when i run the command iceweasel from xterm i get the prompt back without any errors iceweasel don't run |
| 09:46.50 | orgthingy | gps23: type "firefox" in term |
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| 09:47.16 | gps23 | orgthingy, i tried that too |
| 09:47.39 | Lacrimas | Does anyone know how to add the module sit? |
| 09:48.10 | Lacrimas | # modprobe sit |
| 09:48.10 | Lacrimas | FATAL: Module sit not found. |
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| 09:48.57 | Zvpun | gps23: what about /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin |
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| 09:49.45 | orgthingy | Lacrimas: no such module, how r u gonna add it then : ? |
| 09:49.56 | gps23 | Zvpun, its not running too, i should have mentioned that doing 'iceweasel -v' shows me the version so symlink is correct |
| 09:50.01 | Lacrimas | Is there a way to import the module? |
| 09:51.30 | rgammans | Can anyone help me sort out/debug evolution . It's consuming 100% cpu on startup before it displays a window. Strace shows poll() returning EAGAIN |
| 09:52.33 | gps23 | Zvpun, orgthingy, i just found that running iceweasel using sudo is working |
| 09:53.26 | Zvpun | gps23: maybe your configuration is broken. Try with a new user |
| 09:53.45 | orgthingy | gps23: hmm, but you dont need to be root to run ff O_o |
| 09:54.00 | orgthingy | gps23: maybe your .mozilla config file @ $HOME is messed up, dunno |
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| 09:54.25 | gps23 | Zvpun, actually today i reinstalled keeping my /home which was in seperate partition intact, so some earlier settings might be ineffect |
| 09:54.30 | gps23 | in effect* |
| 09:54.42 | gps23 | reinstalled debian i mean* |
| 09:55.47 | tuv_ | is there a way to have mc display human-readable file sizes? how? |
| 09:56.24 | gps23 | i think problem is something serious, doing 'ls -l' on my home dir shows owner and group of my files as 1001, instead on my username |
| 09:57.10 | gps23 | so i don't have permisson in my own homedir |
| 09:57.36 | rgammans | vipw |
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| 09:59.49 | gps23 | i corrected that thing, everything seems to be working now |
| 10:00.03 | gps23 | thanks Zvpun and orgthingy |
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| 10:06.25 | Devrethman | is there a way to make apt list all the files that are from a given package? |
| 10:06.43 | demantik | hi, how can i automatically log in? im wanting to have a box boot without a monitor/keyboard etc and stream music without any intervention. Logging in is my only hurdle. |
| 10:06.57 | rhineheart_m | I can ping the server but I can't ping from the server to the outside... |
| 10:07.11 | Devrethman | demantik: what are you using to stream music that needs logging in? |
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| 10:07.25 | Devrethman | as far as I knew, most such things were daemons |
| 10:07.28 | rhineheart_m | it tells.. unknown host if I ping to yahoo.com |
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| 10:07.36 | gps23 | i installed gnash but still flash is not working on my firefox |
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| 10:07.53 | demantik | Devrethman: actually..good point..nvm. |
| 10:08.05 | Devrethman | rhineheart: if you ping IP addresses does it work? |
| 10:08.19 | rhineheart_m | I'll try.. |
| 10:08.31 | Devrethman | like ping 74.125.67.100 |
| 10:08.33 | Devrethman | (that's google) |
| 10:08.53 | rgammans | Devrethman: dpkg --lisfiles <pkg> ? |
| 10:09.06 | rgammans | err, listfiles even |
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| 10:09.29 | rhineheart_m | Devrethman, yeah. I can ping.. DNS problem? what to edit? |
| 10:10.08 | Devrethman | hmmm... I'm not that familiar with debian networking, I'm assumingyour networking is DHCP? |
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| 10:10.54 | rhineheart_m | thanks anyway for the insight... anybody here who would like to assist me would be appreciated.. Thanks Devrethman |
| 10:11.08 | rgammans | rhineheart_m, first check /etc/resolv.conf . It has probably been generated by somthing though |
| 10:11.14 | Devrethman | does your resolv.conf have anything in it? |
| 10:11.28 | Devrethman | I think resolv.conf is generated by dhclient normally |
| 10:11.51 | Devrethman | My main boxen are gentoo though, which uses a different DHCP system, so it might be different over here |
| 10:12.11 | rgammans | Devrethman: depends on config . but yes dhclient is one of thing which can generate it. resolveconf is another. |
| 10:12.13 | rhineheart_m | rgammans, what shoudl be the content? |
| 10:12.28 | rhineheart_m | Devrethman, I'm on static in the concerned box.. |
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| 10:12.50 | rgammans | Ahh. Can say, depends on your isp. But you need some lines which start nameserver, followed by an ip address.# |
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| 10:13.32 | rgammans | specifically the IP address of a reachable dns server |
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| 10:14.35 | rhineheart_m | i just use the IP of the main router.. is this okay rgammans? I can ping now google.com |
| 10:14.59 | rgammans | Often, most consumer grade router include forwarding dns servers. |
| 10:15.15 | rgammans | if it works it is probably ok |
| 10:15.44 | rgammans | The other thing you need to be aware of is many apps only read that file at startup |
| 10:16.25 | rgammans | Now if I can just get evolution running... |
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| 10:18.04 | rhineheart_m | rgammans, thank you for that idea.. |
| 10:18.26 | rhineheart_m | I have another concern.. how to enable fsockopen? |
| 10:18.59 | rgammans | is that php? |
| 10:19.09 | rhineheart_m | mm I guess so. |
| 10:19.40 | rgammans | It's not posix afaik, but a get hits for it with google related to php |
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| 10:21.29 | rhineheart_m | mmm.. ok. I understand. THanks be to you again rgammans |
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| 10:24.27 | ayers | what would be the canonical way to reqeust a backport of autoconf2.59 from squeeze to lenny? |
| 10:24.50 | ayers | A bug report to the autoconf2.59 source package? |
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| 10:32.20 | deb` | hi,opera 9.64 with qt4 is available for debian? |
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| 10:44.24 | Cobra_Slow | Hello, im getting "<0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task!" with "EIP: [<c0146805>] cache_alloc_refill+0x3ce/0x3ea SS:ESP 0068:c030ff54" on startup before init is loading. Debian Etch. 2 GHz AMD Sempron Sock. A, 786 MB RAM, 1 GB Swap. |
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| 10:45.52 | Devrethman | What's the command for enabling and disabling apache2 sites again? |
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| 10:46.27 | Cobra_Slow | Devrethman, <Directory /i/want/to/disable/here/>deny from all</Directory> |
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| 10:46.50 | Devrethman | Cobra_slow: I was talking about a2dissite, but thanks anyway |
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| 10:49.29 | Selveste1 | Hey - I have just taken over an Debian Lenny server - but how can I see what raid partitions there is on the system ? |
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| 10:50.30 | rgammans | cat /proc/mdstat ? Hmm. Actually that will only show you md ones lvdisplay might help for dm ones |
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| 10:51.12 | Cobra_Slow | any ideas on my kernel panic? |
| 10:51.35 | rgammans | Cobra_Slow, Not me.Its odd though I grant you, |
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| 10:52.37 | rgammans | Cobra_Slow, I assume you have ruled out faulty ram/cpu? |
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| 10:53.23 | chordogg | hello. i was creating a large file using dd for testing purposes, and while the file was still being written, i moved it, and dd continued writing to the file in the new location, is this a standard linux behavior? |
| 10:53.30 | Cobra_Slow | well, the problem occured since i installed debian. system worked fine with ubuntu and fedora |
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| 10:53.32 | rgammans | chordogg, yes |
| 10:53.52 | Cobra_Slow | i just took old my old IDE-Harddisk |
| 10:53.56 | Cobra_Slow | +out |
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| 10:54.28 | chordogg | im creating a program in java that routes incoming files to specific folders based on filename..this will be fine in linux, does any one know if Mac OS X behaves this way as well (i know this is a debian channel just thought i'd try my luck) |
| 10:54.31 | rgammans | Which kernel? |
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| 10:55.12 | Cobra_Slow | umm i actually dont know which kernel it is wait ill press the reset button again to see the grub menu |
| 10:55.26 | rgammans | chordogg, I woudl imagine macos behaves that way it std unix behaviour since the beginning of time. Windows is out of step and worng in this regard |
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| 10:55.45 | chordogg | okay thanks rgammans. i'll have to do some testing and see. appreciate it! |
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| 10:56.42 | rgammans | chordogg, Google something like "posix file semantics" for the gory details |
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| 10:56.53 | chordogg | rgammans: will do |
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| 10:57.43 | Cobra_Slow | 2.6.18-somewhat |
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| 10:57.58 | Cobra_Slow | but its starting up now after deactivating quick boot mode in the bios menu |
| 10:57.59 | rgammans | Hmm. Debian etch? |
| 10:58.15 | Cobra_Slow | its up! wow! |
| 10:58.32 | rgammans | is not sure what quick boot mode is |
| 10:58.40 | Cobra_Slow | skip memory check and stuff |
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| 10:59.40 | rgammans | Cobra_Slow, Ahah it possible the bios ram map that is passed to the kernel is corrupt in qucik mode mode. Thats common place for bios to have bugs, as windows has historically parse the map differently |
| 10:59.40 | Jeremy23 | Howdy folks |
| 10:59.41 | rexwin | hi all. i am trying to create a tunnel between two machines for testing purposes.it went well in opensuse (command openvpn --config /etc/openvpn/server.conf )but failed in debian system http://paste.ubuntu.com/144077/ |
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| 11:00.17 | Cobra_Slow | thanks for info rgammans will remember that in future :) |
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| 11:01.21 | Jeremy23 | Okay...so I'm trying to build a package with pbuilder. It depends on a more recent version of libtalloc-dev than is available. So, I go ahead and use pbuilder to build the latest version of libtalloc. |
| 11:01.21 | Jeremy23 | Now how do I get pbuilder to build the first package by using the libtalloc-dev I just built as the dependency? |
| 11:01.57 | rgammans | Jeremy23, not sure, install it? |
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| 11:02.03 | Jeremy23 | Basically, I want an option to do: pbuilder --use-this-dep=/var/cache/pbuilder/result/libtalloc-dev-1.2.deb |
| 11:02.12 | Jeremy23 | so overriding the one in the repository |
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| 11:02.33 | rgammans | Jeremy23, yes but if you will need to install you own libtalloc first anyway |
| 11:02.52 | Jeremy23 | rgammans: so what's the best way to do that? |
| 11:03.12 | Jeremy23 | I _could_ go and set up a whole apt repository on a URL somewhere to hold one dependency |
| 11:03.26 | Jeremy23 | but I just want to know if there's an easier way that's less overkill |
| 11:03.29 | rgammans | Jeremy23, Can you just insatll lbitalloc with dpkg -i |
| 11:03.43 | Jeremy23 | no, this is using pbuilder, which installs into a chroot |
| 11:03.58 | rgammans | oh |
| 11:04.02 | Jeremy23 | I pass pbuilder a .dsc file, it unpacks the chroot, retrieves the Build-Deps from apt, and build it |
| 11:04.22 | Jeremy23 | so I also need it to add a dep that I just built into the chroot |
| 11:04.41 | rgammans | Yeah - I didn't realise pbuilder was the chroot thing |
| 11:04.47 | Jeremy23 | or is there a way to build multiple packages in one go with pbuilder? that'd solve it. |
| 11:05.09 | rgammans | Jeremy23, Pass. I haven't got to grips with pbuilder yet |
| 11:05.18 | Jeremy23 | hehe |
| 11:05.20 | Jeremy23 | no worries |
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| 11:05.38 | wuffi600 | i love xmms1. do i need to compile it myelf or are there any packages (maybe on some backport server) for lenny? |
| 11:05.41 | Jeremy23 | I wonder if I could pass a file:/// url to --mirror |
| 11:06.24 | Jeremy23 | okay, correcting myself: file:// urls explicitly don't work |
| 11:06.27 | Jeremy23 | cause of the chroot |
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| 11:06.57 | rgammans | Jeremy23, Hackup/ install a lightweight http/ftp |
| 11:07.33 | Jeremy23 | yeah, that's what I'm thinking |
| 11:07.44 | Jeremy23 | I'd need to remember how to do apt-ftparchive and all that stuff |
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| 11:09.18 | Jeremy23 | actually, pbuildd.sh looks interesting |
| 11:09.47 | Jeremy23 | wuffi600: you could possibly use pbuilder to build xmms1 for lenny |
| 11:11.33 | abrotman | wuffi600: if you're just after the interface, look at audacious |
| 11:11.49 | Jeremy23 | true dat |
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| 11:13.33 | Selveste1 | rgammans: mdstat did the job :) and both Raid 1 and LVM seams to be working just fine :) thanx |
| 11:14.04 | rgammans | no probs. |
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| 11:16.26 | Selveste1 | have so much to learn about the new Debian on so little time :P |
| 11:16.46 | rgammans | Selveste1, Oreilly used have a book on running debian |
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| 11:17.48 | wuffi600 | abrotman, thanx for you hint. I'd like to install a lightwight player that comes as a single application not devided in client-server-structure. An of course i would like to get rid of all meta-layer as a itunes- like "music-library". In the 90s i used x11amp and later switched to xmms (, coolplayer and winamp2 on windows were ok). Could you recommend a lightweight player to me? (aren't there simple gnome-players?) |
| 11:18.27 | abrotman | wuffi600: audacious might be the closest you'll get for a GUI player |
| 11:18.51 | abrotman | wuffi600: some poeple also like quod libet |
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| 11:19.15 | wuffi600 | abrotman, thanx a lot, i'll try it.. |
| 11:19.32 | Selveste1 | rgammans: I'm running etch at the moment, but my goll on this new server is to test everything so I can move from my old etch to lenny, but there is some think that have changed and I have a lot of custom cfg file to port to lenny :P |
| 11:20.26 | Selveste1 | and my boss will have it finished in a week :P |
| 11:21.32 | rexwin | Cannot allocate TUN/TAP dev dynamically |
| 11:22.28 | Maior | wuffi600: I use orpheus |
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| 11:26.50 | maligor | wuffi600, potamus maybe? |
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| 11:27.08 | maligor | lost of players embed library management these days, personally I like the system |
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| 11:28.20 | osfd | Hi, is it difficult to use a proxy. Is there some good one you know (Opensource compliant)...? please |
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| 11:35.14 | Zaid | hi |
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| 11:36.44 | Zaid | please, how do we install sagem fast 800 on debian ? |
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| 11:39.50 | rgammans | zaid: what is one of those? |
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| 11:40.17 | Zaid | rgammans ? |
| 11:40.39 | rgammans | Zaid, What is a sagem fast 800? |
| 11:40.46 | wuffi600 | abrotman, yes, audacious seems to be the thing i can go on for the next 10 years.. :)) Thank you |
| 11:40.48 | abrotman | an adsl modem |
| 11:40.52 | osfd | what does \o/ stand for ? |
| 11:41.01 | rgammans | rgammans, ah. Ethernet or usb? |
| 11:41.03 | Zaid | an usb adsl modem |
| 11:41.08 | abrotman | osfd: someone with arms raised .. like cheering |
| 11:41.16 | rgammans | zaid : what happens is you plug in in |
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| 11:41.41 | osfd | ooookkkkkaaaayyy, I would have never guessed that...! |
| 11:41.56 | Zaid | error debian doesn't detetct it |
| 11:42.01 | rgammans | Zaid - you may safe yourself time though just to go out and buy an ethernet modem |
| 11:42.04 | asg | that's because you are probably too young to remember how graphics used to be in the old days |
| 11:43.02 | osfd | asg: you talking to me....? |
| 11:43.12 | rgammans | Zaid, Oh. It probably needs firmware uploaded. Google it for linux in general . You might be betetr just buying a ethernet one |
| 11:43.16 | asg | nods |
| 11:44.21 | rgammans | join #python |
| 11:44.24 | rgammans | pah |
| 11:44.31 | osfd | my first computer was a thomson MO5.. |
| 11:44.45 | Zaid | the firmware needs the kernel sources to be compiled and without intenet i have to resolve alla the dependecies by myself |
| 11:45.19 | rgammans | osfd: 1984, Late starter then. |
| 11:45.51 | osfd | rgammans: I'm French ;) |
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| 11:46.38 | hersoy | hi, i cant upgrade e2fsprogs and initscripts, how can i do |
| 11:46.39 | abrotman | so .. 1996 in france? |
| 11:46.53 | rgammans | osfd: Yeah, well you had a tomson PC , I sort of guessed that what with thomson being French and all |
| 11:46.55 | abrotman | hersoy: doing a dist-upgrade from sarge ? |
| 11:46.59 | rgammans | started on the commodore PET |
| 11:47.08 | asg | timex sinclair |
| 11:47.10 | p0g0 | ascii art was pre-laser/inkjet/postscript- more a pre 80's thing. Everyone who had the 4' nude raise their hand. |
| 11:47.23 | hersoy | i use debian lenny |
| 11:47.29 | osfd | abrotman: too easy |
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| 11:47.36 | pro-rsoft | what does this mean? |
| 11:47.38 | pro-rsoft | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: warning: can't parse dependency build-essential bison libgtk2.0-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libxft-dev libosmesa6-dev flex libssl-dev libpng12-dev libtiff4-dev python-dev |
| 11:47.39 | abrotman | hersoy: paste the error at paste.debian.net |
| 11:47.43 | Jeremy23 | rgammans: okay, I eventually figured it out |
| 11:48.03 | Jeremy23 | rgammans: for future reference, I instead used `pbuilder login`, and then used dpkg-buildpackage to manually build each package |
| 11:48.14 | Jeremy23 | not the cleanest solution, but it works |
| 11:48.17 | rgammans | Jeremy23, Ahah. |
| 11:48.44 | rgammans | Jeremy23, can you not use dbuilder from there? |
| 11:48.59 | Jeremy23 | you mean debuild? |
| 11:49.07 | Jeremy23 | dpkg-buildpackage is basically the same |
| 11:49.09 | rgammans | Jeremy23, ah probably |
| 11:49.22 | Jeremy23 | can't remember what the difference is at the moment |
| 11:50.52 | hersoy | no error, but always upgrade packages |
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| 11:51.27 | abrotman | hersoy: then upgrade it |
| 11:51.42 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32378/ |
| 11:52.04 | pro-rsoft | what does this mean? |
| 11:52.04 | pro-rsoft | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: warning: can't parse dependency build-essential bison libgtk2.0-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libxft-dev libosmesa6-dev flex libssl-dev libpng12-dev libtiff4-dev python-dev |
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| 11:52.37 | abrotman | hersoy: dist-upgrade does the same ? |
| 11:52.52 | Jeremy23 | pro-rsoft: you need to run `apt-get build-dep` for whatever package it is you're trying to build |
| 11:53.07 | hersoy | i use apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 11:53.15 | abrotman | try it |
| 11:53.21 | pro-rsoft | Jeremy23, hmm ok |
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| 11:55.12 | hersoy | yes i try, reboot my systems ? |
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| 11:57.02 | hersoy | no, i dont upgrade it |
| 11:57.44 | abrotman | huh? |
| 11:58.20 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32379/ |
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| 11:59.31 | hersoy | share my desktop ? |
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| 12:00.25 | abrotman | hersoy: apt-cache policy e2fsprogs |
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| 12:01.12 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32381/ |
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| 12:01.47 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32381/ |
| 12:01.51 | hersoy | sorry |
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| 12:02.51 | abrotman | hersoy: apt-get clean; apt-get upgrade |
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| 12:04.36 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32382/ |
| 12:05.23 | gps23 | there are some packages which are shown when i press tab in xterm after writing their half names e.g. pressing tab after 'sudo aptitude install sloc' completes sloc to slocate but when press enter to install it aptitude gives message that 'No candidate version found for slocate'. why is that happening? |
| 12:06.06 | abrotman | hersoy: apt-get install e2fsprogs/lenny ? |
| 12:07.03 | hersoy | not found error |
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| 12:08.10 | hersoy | i use mirror ftp.tr.debian.org, ? |
| 12:08.25 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32383/ |
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| 12:10.14 | abrotman | hersoy: paste `apt-cache policy` |
| 12:11.11 | hersoy | http://paste.debian.net/32384/ |
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| 12:11.58 | eix | anybody having issues with latest sid updates and XFCE? |
| 12:12.10 | asg | eix: the bts would know |
| 12:12.21 | as_ok_ | I use 'aptitude install git' the os tell me it instead of gnuit , so i run 'gnuit' ,but system tell me 'no command'? why? |
| 12:12.22 | eix | asg: bts = ? |
| 12:12.27 | asg | eix: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 12:12.52 | abrotman | hersoy: can you paste your sources.list and your preferences file (if you have one) |
| 12:13.50 | hersoy | sorry, i dont understand perferences file |
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| 12:14.55 | eix | asg: I just wondered if the man who updated the repositories worldwide was aware of that.. |
| 12:15.19 | eix | asg: package dependencies are broken, not some feature of software |
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| 12:15.31 | hersoy | ersoy:/etc/apt# nano sources.list, sources.lists http://paste.debian.net/32385/ |
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| 12:15.51 | asg | eix: then file a bug. |
| 12:16.19 | eix | asg: not if somebody else already did |
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| 12:16.25 | abrotman | hersoy: you probably shouldn't have the proposed-updates in there .. but that's not what's causing this |
| 12:16.42 | hersoy | abrotman, perference file ? |
| 12:16.44 | asg | eix: then why are you asking in here about it if a bug has already been filed? |
| 12:16.51 | hersoy | remove |
| 12:16.52 | hersoy | ? |
| 12:16.57 | abrotman | hersoy: do you have one ? |
| 12:17.02 | abrotman | eh .. nevermind |
| 12:17.15 | eix | asg: you moron, I was just asking for a workaround! |
| 12:17.32 | eix | asg: I never asked for bugs nor complained about anything |
| 12:17.41 | abrotman | eix: right, check the bts for a workaround .. don't call people morons |
| 12:17.46 | asg | eix: you were asking if anyone had issues with xfce. You were pointed to the bts. |
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| 12:18.53 | abrotman | hersoy: it would be /etc/apt/prefernces .. if you have one |
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| 12:19.44 | hersoy | i dont have got /etc/apt/prefernces |
| 12:20.00 | abrotman | ok |
| 12:20.21 | Man_of_Wax | there is a kernel .29 packaged somewhere? I've updated my lenny to sid but the kernel is still the version .26 |
| 12:20.37 | abrotman | Man_of_Wax: did you change your bootloader and/or reboot ? |
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| 12:21.01 | Man_of_Wax | abrotman: yes |
| 12:21.26 | abrotman | hersoy: maybe try to use aptitude interactively |
| 12:23.10 | hersoy | yes, ok, but some of packages in local and old packages |
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| 12:24.12 | dotch | @ping |
| 12:26.41 | Man_of_Wax | uhm I'm searching through packages.debian, the sid kernel-image is the same of lenny (2.6.26), but the linux-doc in sid is for kernel version 6.29. So there is a precompiled binary of kernel .29 or I have to built it myself using kernel-package and a standard .config file? |
| 12:27.02 | hersoy | abrotman, ok, but some of packages in local and old packages, how can i do remove it ? |
| 12:27.09 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.29-686 |
| 12:27.09 | judd | abrotman: linux-image-2.6.29-686 -- |
| 12:27.13 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.29-1-686 |
| 12:27.13 | judd | abrotman: linux-image-2.6.29-1-686 -- sid: 2.6.29-1 |
| 12:27.26 | abrotman | hersoy: install the ones that are not local/old i suppose |
| 12:27.52 | hersoy | abrotman, remove and reinstall this packages ? |
| 12:28.07 | abrotman | i don't think removing them is a great plan |
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| 12:29.31 | hersoy | abrotman, thank u |
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| 12:30.12 | hersoy | byes |
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| 13:26.13 | Xptical | hi all. |
| 13:26.29 | Xptical | i have a domain name, xptical.org, through godaddy |
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| 13:26.45 | Xptical | i also have a dyndns for my home cable connection |
| 13:27.05 | Xptical | is there any way to set it up so that xptical.org points to my home connection? |
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| 13:29.09 | abrotman | you uh . use dyndns |
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| 13:30.02 | Xptical | yeah, but my dyndns is xptical.homeip.net |
| 13:30.18 | Xptical | i want to map xptical.org to xptical.homeip.net |
| 13:30.26 | Xptical | does that make sense? |
| 13:30.39 | abrotman | you need a dns server |
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| 13:30.51 | abrotman | or pay godaddy to do your dns i guess |
| 13:31.14 | pipeline | godaddy will host dns for cheap or free |
| 13:31.17 | pipeline | do not remember |
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| 13:31.34 | pipeline | you would host a CNAME record on godaddy and bam |
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| 13:32.16 | Xptical | just have the cname point to xptical.homeip.net vice an actual ip address? |
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| 13:35.56 | jpinx | Xptical: dyndns.com do it all for free for your own domain |
| 13:36.19 | Xptical | yeah, ny primary domain is registered through godaddy |
| 13:36.24 | Xptical | *my |
| 13:36.36 | Xptical | so I don't think DYNDNS can help me there |
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| 13:36.49 | Xptical | and transfering my domain is probably a pain |
| 13:37.04 | jpinx | Xptical: read their website before you leap to wrong conclusions |
| 13:37.20 | Xptical | dyn or gd? |
| 13:37.23 | Xptical | or both? |
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| 13:38.25 | Xptical | actually looks like GD can do a 301/302 forward to xptical.homeip.net |
| 13:38.41 | Xptical | which will be cool if it works |
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| 13:38.54 | Xptical | now, off to re-build my home server |
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| 13:40.19 | MickeyKnox | I just made a bootable usb stick to install debian, it boots well, but then it tries to mount a cd. I would like it to use the iso, i copied on the usb stick. How can i do that? |
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| 13:41.58 | MickeyKnox | I followed the instructions on this page: http://www.de.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.de |
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| 13:43.38 | Xptical | I use unetbooten to make liveUSB images... |
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| 13:44.09 | Xptical | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 13:46.31 | MickeyKnox | i managed to force the page in english: http://debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 13:47.02 | MickeyKnox | Xptical: So what about the instructions on debian.org? Are these obsolet? |
| 13:47.18 | Xptical | I don't know |
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| 13:47.28 | Xptical | but unetbooten is dead simple |
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| 13:47.42 | Xptical | it'll even download the ISO file for you |
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| 13:48.01 | Xptical | great for making live images of the distro LiveDVDs |
| 13:48.17 | MickeyKnox | ok, i'll try that, thanks |
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| 13:59.38 | cncfanatics | Hello everyone, I'm currently running debian but my fans are not turning, /etc/proc/fan is empty and so is /etc/proc/thermal_zone, additionaly, pwmconfig doesn't find any pwm-capable sensors either |
| 13:59.45 | cncfanatics | I'm using an hp pavilion laptop |
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| 14:00.24 | cncfanatics | anyone know how to fix this ? >.> |
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| 14:04.55 | Xptical | pipeline If I create a CNAME, what do I do with the ARecord? |
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| 14:05.10 | ktebit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:05.23 | ktebit | I just need the mysql.so lib for php4, and it wants to remove useful package =) |
| 14:05.24 | ktebit | any ideas? |
| 14:05.27 | ktebit | im using debian sarge |
| 14:05.53 | pipeline | Xptical: you don't want to have an A record at all |
| 14:06.00 | Xptical | kk |
| 14:06.09 | pipeline | Xptical: the only thing that would exist in the xptical.org domain woudl be the CNAME... |
| 14:06.12 | Xptical | also, can a CName be a wildcard? |
| 14:06.19 | pipeline | Xptical: what the hell ? no |
| 14:06.25 | Xptical | yeppers |
| 14:06.31 | Xptical | so, www.xptical.org works |
| 14:06.32 | pipeline | Xptical: dude. Get a static IP. |
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| 14:06.35 | ktebit | So? |
| 14:06.38 | Xptical | but xptical.org does not |
| 14:06.47 | pipeline | Xptical: you need a cname for @ then :P |
| 14:06.52 | Xptical | ah |
| 14:07.00 | Xptical | sry, I'm an idiot this AM |
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| 14:08.39 | adb | !tell ktebit about sarge |
| 14:08.41 | pipeline | Xptical: business class cable connections are not expensive anymore, perhaps double a consumer connection. |
| 14:08.53 | Xptical | yeppers |
| 14:08.54 | lordnazgul | So, I've got a winmodem in my computer that I am trying to get setup for dialin. I actually found a driver for it, and minicom can talk to the modem, it deals with the AT command set like it should and seems to be working. I put mgetty on the terminal, and that seems to be working, but whenever i dial in to it, it hangs up immediately. the mgetty logs say its getting "no carrier" i have no idea what could be causing this |
| 14:08.58 | ktebit | adb: but what can I do? |
| 14:09.02 | pipeline | Xptical: colocation and shared hosting are cheap, too - $20-$30 a month for ample bandwidth. |
| 14:09.09 | Xptical | I'm using this as a holdover until I find a new VPS solution |
| 14:09.24 | Xptical | my old VPS turned into the worst company ever |
| 14:09.29 | adb | ktebit: upgrade to etch ? |
| 14:09.42 | Xptical | godaddy won't allow an @ cname |
| 14:09.46 | pipeline | Xptical: I've heard lovely things about slicehost and linode, both. Xen VMs for cheap. That said, I've never seen the point of renting a VM. For the cost of a 1G VM, I can get 1U of colo space and get as much CPU power as I want P: |
| 14:10.01 | Xptical | looking at OpticVPS now |
| 14:10.07 | rgammans | lordnazgul, Can you actually make a connection uses minicom? |
| 14:10.12 | Xptical | *OptikVPS |
| 14:10.27 | pipeline | Xptical: heh. I'm skeptical of anything called a "VPS," because that usually means a virtuozzo/openvz VPS. |
| 14:10.31 | ktebit | yes, did apt-get upgrade & dist-upgrade before ... and it removed my php4-mysql....so when I do "php -v" I got: PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20050606+lfs/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20050606+lfs/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 |
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| 14:10.46 | pipeline | Xptical: I've run a virtuozzo environment, and the margins are so razor thin that basically they have to fuck you in the ass to make a dime |
| 14:10.57 | Xptical | yeppers |
| 14:11.00 | lordnazgul | rgammans: dialing out, i dunno, I don't have a number to try to call, but i can communicate with the modem for AT commands |
| 14:11.02 | pipeline | Xptical: so it does not surprise me that a "VPS" company treated you like shit. |
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| 14:11.14 | jpinx | Xptical: want a xen vps? |
| 14:11.23 | pipeline | Xptical: let's put it this way - a VPS goes for what, nine bucks a month? At $60/mo., my company was still losing money doing it :) |
| 14:11.26 | Xptical | I don't blame them, but you know |
| 14:11.26 | ktebit | I just want to fix this mysql.so missing right now :P |
| 14:11.42 | Xptical | I think I was paying $15 or so |
| 14:11.48 | rgammans | lordnazgul, Try to dailout. AT commands are easy for the driver . Adn it the bit mgetty seems to be hanving trouble with too |
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| 14:12.10 | rgammans | lordnazgul, atdt <num> is the at cmd you need if you didn't know |
| 14:12.20 | ktebit | anyone please? |
| 14:12.35 | ktebit | any parameter to force install without removing any package ? |
| 14:12.38 | Xptical | Yeppers, OptikVPS is indeed using OpenVZ |
| 14:12.41 | Xptical | :P |
| 14:12.46 | ktebit | any parameter to force install without removing any package ? |
| 14:13.05 | Xptical | so, anyway, back to godaddy not allowing an @ for a cname...am I missing something? |
| 14:13.06 | pipeline | Xptical: the upside to virtuozzo/openvz is density. It's not difficult to get 400-500 customers on a 2G, 2-cpu box. |
| 14:13.07 | rgammans | ktebit, check php.ini - it might have the wrong lib search direcrotry |
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| 14:13.10 | ktebit | it want to remove those packages : apache apache-common apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache-mod-php4 libapache2-mod-php4 libapache2-svn libaprutil1 libserf-0-0 libsvn1 php4 |
| 14:13.17 | ktebit | python2.3-subversion subversion subversion-tools |
| 14:13.19 | pipeline | Xptical: no, I've never tried anything as crazy as a CNAME in @. Because static IPs are cheap :) |
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| 14:13.53 | pipeline | Xptical: I imagine the way that the Xen VM firms (slicehost, linode et al) make money is that they set it and forget it. They don't promise to support whatever dumbass applications you choose to run. :) |
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| 14:14.12 | ktebit | I just did upgrade & dist-upgrade, nothing more |
| 14:14.14 | jpinx | Xptical: you would find that dyndns will work for you and I am offering you a xen based vps |
| 14:14.16 | adb | !tell ktebit about archive |
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| 14:14.20 | Xptical | Yeah, and I'm okay with that |
| 14:14.32 | ktebit | adb: what do you mean? |
| 14:14.48 | adb | read what bot told you |
| 14:14.49 | Xptical | jpinx, what are you offering? |
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| 14:15.11 | jpinx | Xptical: go to zoneedit.com for your domain and dns needs |
| 14:15.14 | ktebit | I read adb |
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| 14:15.40 | Xptical | well, I have a domain and a DNS, I just need a server to point them at |
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| 14:15.52 | cncfanatics1 | hello, can anyone help me with lm-sensors ? the output from the sensors command is incomplete and pwmconfig does not work :( |
| 14:16.00 | jpinx | Xptical: dyndns is not dificult to set up for your own domain on your local machine |
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| 14:16.47 | jpinx | Xptical: do you need a whole vps or an account on an existing vps? |
| 14:17.17 | Xptical | I dunno. Probably just a server inside of a VPS |
| 14:17.21 | ktebit | EOL distro...means they will not update packages anymore for security & features...no ? It doesn't meant it will fuck your system if you do a upgrade... |
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| 14:17.34 | jpinx | Xptical: pm me |
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| 14:18.24 | lordnazgul | rgammans: i get a no carrier there as well |
| 14:18.25 | adb | ktebit: paste your sources.list |
| 14:18.41 | adb | use a paste site |
| 14:19.14 | lordnazgul | rgammans: maybe cabling?? |
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| 14:20.25 | adb | ktebit: The recommended upgrade procedure for sarge->etch is no longer as simple as running "aptitude dist-upgrade", please follow the procedure in the release notes |
| 14:21.11 | adb | !tell ktebit about sarge->etch |
| 14:21.30 | stew | adb: you can use ! for a factoid containing > |
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| 14:21.58 | adb | stew: thx |
| 14:22.00 | goldenwolf_ | hey guys, is it possible to downgrade the kernel? |
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| 14:23.11 | adb | dpkg -i ? |
| 14:23.12 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, adb |
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| 14:26.51 | rgammans | lordnazgul, cabling, or faulty driver that won't negotiate with the far end. |
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| 14:38.50 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
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| 14:40.16 | Coconutt | Hi, I'm new on Debian (lenny) i installed the driver for my wifi card with ndiswrapper but it doesnt work. The lspci command returns is that my marvell card WG311 v3 is in my computer but according to /sbin/iwconfig, my card just doesnt exist. Someone know what the problem is ? Thx |
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| 14:42.32 | hark | ndiswrapper sucks |
| 14:42.46 | Coconutt | but i can't do anything else ! |
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| 14:42.47 | hark | Coconutt: what does lspci -nn say about the card? |
| 14:42.51 | geekbr | so, i have a question about dpkg or aptitude .. i looked for this information on debian documentation .. and i cant solv .. |
| 14:44.08 | Coconutt | this : http://pastebin.com/m72637f1c |
| 14:44.19 | hark | geekbr: well, ask your question then |
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| 14:46.09 | goldenwolf_ | does debian use wlanconfig? |
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| 14:51.44 | hark | judd: pciid 11ab:1faa |
| 14:51.45 | judd | hark: [11ab:1faa] is '88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless' from 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi?check=1&lspci=11ab:1faa |
| 14:51.52 | ktebit | stew ? |
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| 14:53.16 | Coconutt | so there's nothing to do ? |
| 14:53.42 | Coconutt | on the web people can be connected with that card |
| 14:53.48 | Coconutt | don't understand |
| 14:54.06 | hark | ndiswrapper will work, i am just checking for an alternative |
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| 14:55.03 | stew | ktebit: yes? |
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| 14:56.18 | hark | Coconutt: what does ndiswrapper -l say? |
| 14:56.59 | Coconutt | wg311v3 : driver installed |
| 14:57.00 | Coconutt | device (11AB:1FAA) present |
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| 14:57.32 | smacnay | Can an mpd client access an mpd server on a lan? Or does the mpd server need to be on the same machine as the client? |
| 14:57.34 | Coconutt | the driver is well installed with ndiswrapper but it's just like my card isn't connected |
| 14:57.40 | Jemt | Coconutt: Try restarting. Sometimes services needs to be restarted. A real restart will make sure that everything is initialized properly |
| 14:57.52 | Jemt | Coconutt: Also, is it a wireless card ? |
| 14:58.03 | Coconutt | i've already did it several times |
| 14:58.06 | Coconutt | yes |
| 14:58.12 | Jemt | Coconutt: It might not be able to scan your network. Try connecting manually |
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| 14:58.27 | Coconutt | how ? |
| 14:58.29 | Jemt | Coconutt: Specifying SSID, username, password etc |
| 14:58.35 | Jemt | Coconutt: Using Gnome ? |
| 14:58.38 | Coconutt | yes |
| 14:58.48 | Jemt | You should see a network manager in top of your panel |
| 14:58.53 | hark | wonders what the libertas-firmware is for |
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| 14:58.56 | Coconutt | i don't |
| 14:59.27 | Coconutt | and i don't find network-manager |
| 14:59.27 | hark | if iwconfig doesn't list it, network manager won't help |
| 14:59.28 | Jemt | Coconutt: Using Debian 5.0 ? |
| 14:59.35 | Coconutt | yep |
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| 14:59.58 | Jemt | hark: Scan dosn't always work |
| 15:00.45 | hark | Jemt: Coconutt is saying the interface is not showing up at all. not just the scan part |
| 15:00.47 | Jemt | hark: Did you help him set up the Wireless manually ? |
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| 15:00.52 | Jemt | Oh |
| 15:00.54 | Jemt | Okay |
| 15:01.02 | Coconutt | I'm a girl :p |
| 15:01.11 | Jemt | What driver are you using ? |
| 15:01.21 | Jemt | Coconutt: Sorry :p |
| 15:01.26 | Coconutt | the WG311 v3 for xp |
| 15:01.31 | crono- | I'm having some trouble with mdadm, but im using debian so ill try to ask it in here; after i hot-removed and added a couple of disks that were set up in raid1 (5 disks) apparantly i messed up the raid setup in the config or superblock, as all i get when i boot is a repeated message of "mdadm: /dev/md/0 failed to start" (or equivalent) and the boot ends there. This particular disk isnt /boot/ or the system partition so i would like to turn it off. |
| 15:01.32 | Jemt | Coconutt: Ok, should be fine |
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| 15:02.00 | Jemt | Coconutt: Not sure what to do then |
| 15:02.01 | hark | Coconutt: modprobe'd ndiswrapper right? |
| 15:02.21 | Coconutt | i don't have any answer guess it's ok ? |
| 15:02.40 | hark | Coconutt: yeah, check dmesg |tail and iwconfig |
| 15:02.48 | Jemt | Coconutt: lsmod | grep i ndis < What does it say ? |
| 15:02.52 | crono- | I'm able to liveboot the system (which doesnt bring up mdadm on a forced basis) but now mdadm in the liveboot can't scan my setup so im back to fixing the installed OS |
| 15:03.00 | Jemt | Coconutt: lsmod | grep -i ndis < What does it say ? |
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| 15:03.05 | Jemt | Notice correction |
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| 15:04.47 | Coconutt | http://pastebin.com/m2a72aed4 dmesg |
| 15:05.06 | Coconutt | lo no wireless extensions. |
| 15:05.06 | Coconutt | eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 15:05.06 | Coconutt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.51 | Coconutt | nd the last doesn't say anything |
| 15:06.08 | Jemt | Coconutt: lsmod | grep -i ndis < What does it say ? |
| 15:06.21 | Jemt | That's the one returning nothing ? |
| 15:06.27 | Coconutt | yep |
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| 15:06.53 | Jemt | Coconutt: Then you don't have ndiswrapper loaded. do this: modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 15:07.05 | Jemt | Coconutt: lsmod | grep -i ndis < What does it say now ? |
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| 15:07.40 | Coconutt | ok that's official i'm damned |
| 15:07.53 | Coconutt | FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found. |
| 15:08.23 | Jemt | Coconutt: Whut ?! Not sure why that would happen. Hark ? |
| 15:08.25 | abrotman | !ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 15:08.26 | dpkg | from memory, ndiswrapper one-liner is "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a a-i ndiswrapper && modprobe ndiswrapper && echo ndiswrapper >> /etc/modules". Then install the (Windows XP) NDIS driver via "ndiswrapper -i <inf file>", refer to the ndiswrapper man page. |
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| 15:08.43 | hark | Coconutt: didn't you modprobe it earlier? |
| 15:08.52 | Coconutt | i did |
| 15:08.53 | Jemt | Coconutt: How did you install your NDIS driver without ndiswrapper installed ? |
| 15:09.02 | Coconutt | it was installed |
| 15:09.06 | Jemt | Odd |
| 15:09.13 | Coconutt | i also installed ndisgtk |
| 15:09.26 | hark | Coconutt: see what the bot said above |
| 15:09.27 | Jemt | Shouldn't matter |
| 15:09.30 | Coconutt | and it's still here |
| 15:09.35 | Coconutt | ok |
| 15:09.41 | Jemt | Yes, install ndiswrapper again. Follow the instructions by dpkg |
| 15:10.17 | Coconutt | i'm doing it |
| 15:10.21 | Jemt | :) |
| 15:11.18 | Coconutt | they say it's already installed |
| 15:11.27 | Coconutt | (the driver) |
| 15:11.38 | Jemt | Coconutt: When you have installed ndiswrapper, then please do this : cat /etc/modules - Check the output. There should only be one ndiswrapper entry |
| 15:11.57 | Jemt | Coconutt: Who says that ? What command did you type ? |
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| 15:12.31 | Coconutt | ndiswrapper -i /home/blondie/Desktop/WG311v3.INF |
| 15:12.40 | Jemt | ndiswrapper -l |
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| 15:12.49 | Jemt | ndiswrapper -r <name> (name from list) |
| 15:12.54 | Coconutt | there are two ndiswrapper |
| 15:12.57 | Jemt | Then install it again to make sure |
| 15:13.10 | hark | Coconutt: that's ok, but you need to have the kernel module. |
| 15:13.14 | hollywoodb | Is there a way to do a simple package version bump? geany has been stagnating at 0.14 forever, 0.15 has been in experimental for 6 months, and 0.16 is out. I'd like to run 0.16 as it has a couple fixes I would like to have |
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| 15:13.38 | crono- | Can anyone tell me know how to keep mdadm from being run during boot? |
| 15:13.53 | hark | Coconutt: if you've done the m-a bit as in the factoid, modprobe ndiswrapper and check dmesg|tail. |
| 15:14.55 | Coconutt | [ 4628.675493] usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper |
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| 15:16.24 | hark | Coconutt: how about iwconfig now? |
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| 15:16.37 | Coconutt | Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 15:16.40 | Coconutt | it works ! |
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| 15:16.53 | Coconutt | wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:off/any |
| 15:16.53 | Coconutt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.53 | Coconutt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.53 | Coconutt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.54 | Coconutt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:17.03 | Jemt | Coconutt: Good. Restart your computer to make absolutely sure it works next time you boot :) |
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| 15:17.09 | Jemt | Doh |
| 15:17.12 | Jemt | Coconutt: Good. Restart your computer to make absolutely sure it works next time you boot :) |
| 15:17.17 | Coconutt | arf too happy :p |
| 15:17.28 | Coconutt | yep see you |
| 15:17.33 | Jemt | Hopefully |
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| 15:21.19 | Blonde | ok my card still there now i have to configure it |
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| 15:21.53 | Blonde | what do i do if a use wpa ? |
| 15:22.10 | Nibbler_ | somebody here knows how i can useradd someuser hisfirstname hislastname ? |
| 15:22.12 | hark | hollywoodb: there's already a wishlist bug about it in the bts |
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| 15:23.12 | Coconutt | pleeeeease i'm not done yet |
| 15:23.18 | kgy | Hi all ! |
| 15:23.22 | Coconutt | hi |
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| 15:24.17 | hark | Coconutt: the easiest way would be to install NetworkManager |
| 15:24.52 | LamerC | Hello. I'm using Debian with gnome-screensaver, and I've installed the themes for xscreensaver. They show up just fine in the preferences box, and even the preview for them works, but when the screensaver kicks in, the only ones that seem to work are floating debian and floating feet. |
| 15:25.06 | Jemt | !tell coconutt about network-manager |
| 15:25.12 | Coconutt | but i don't find it in my applications or system |
| 15:25.16 | Coconutt | and it's installed |
| 15:25.45 | hark | Coconutt: are you running gnome? |
| 15:25.50 | Coconutt | yep |
| 15:25.52 | hark | Coconutt: which version of debian? |
| 15:25.54 | Coconutt | already said |
| 15:25.58 | Coconutt | 5.0 |
| 15:26.00 | Coconutt | lenny |
| 15:26.01 | Jemt | She is running Lenny |
| 15:26.11 | hark | Coconutt: run nm-applet |
| 15:26.49 | Coconutt | how ? |
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| 15:27.11 | cahoot | Coconutt: interfaces you want to use via n-m should be commented out in /etc/network/interfaces (IIRC) |
| 15:27.12 | hark | Nibbler_: use adduser |
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| 15:28.00 | Coconutt | my wlan0 connection isn't |
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| 15:29.17 | hark | Coconutt: do you see an the icon in the panel now? |
| 15:29.17 | SamuraiDio | hi all |
| 15:29.25 | hark | s/an// |
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| 15:29.42 | Blonde | sorry |
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| 15:30.03 | hark | Coconutt: do you see the icon in the panel now? |
| 15:30.12 | Coconutt | what did you say last ? |
| 15:30.24 | hark | run nm-applet |
| 15:30.44 | hollywoodb | hark: ah, I had missed that one, thanks! |
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| 15:31.06 | Nibbler_ | hark: i was looking at the man pages from adduser but it has no attributes and i want to add 10000 of users not just 1 |
| 15:31.19 | hark | Nibbler_: ah |
| 15:31.23 | Coconutt | Either i have a problem (i think that's the good option) or my computer doesnt like me |
| 15:31.27 | Coconutt | nm isn't installed |
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| 15:32.04 | hark | Coconutt: the package is network-manager-gnome |
| 15:32.34 | Dassu | aaargh... |
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| 15:32.58 | Dassu | Something happened to the sun-java5-jre because none of the repos seem to contain it but I can still download it from the debian packages :E |
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| 15:33.12 | Dassu | or to pretty much all sun-java packages. Using debian lenny. |
| 15:33.15 | hark | Nibbler_: [options] [--home DIR] [--shell SHELL] [--no-create-home] [--uid ID] [--firstuid ID] [--lastuid ID] [--ingroup GROUP | --gid ID] [--disabled-password] [--disabled-login] [--gecos GECOS] [--add_extra_groups] user |
| 15:33.17 | Dassu | Tried de,fi and funet |
| 15:33.27 | Dassu | and also those were reccomended by debian packages |
| 15:33.29 | Nibbler_ | hark so firstuid and lastuid is it ? |
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| 15:34.59 | hark | Dassu: lenny has sun java6 not 5 |
| 15:35.13 | kardan | hi, I get an '/usr/bin/env: bad interpreter: Permission denied' |
| 15:35.14 | Dassu | hark: well, it seems to have also java5. And I need it |
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| 15:35.21 | Dassu | according to the debian packages |
| 15:35.22 | floerp | hi, i am looking for a lightweight SQL engine (or how you call it). just for local usage. any recommendations? |
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| 15:35.30 | kardan | its not because of noexec as I found on scroogle |
| 15:35.37 | Dassu | and also tried sun-java6 and it wouldn't be found either |
| 15:35.45 | abrotman | floerp: sqlite maybe ? depends on the functionality you need |
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| 15:36.17 | hark | Dassu: oh sorry, do you have non-free enabled? |
| 15:36.18 | Nibbler_ | hark: useradd does only seem to have uid where the heck did you get this from ? |
| 15:36.34 | hark | Dassu: /msg dpkg bat |
| 15:36.46 | hark | Nibbler_: from man adduser |
| 15:37.11 | Coconutt | http://yfrog.com/3kcapturecp |
| 15:37.12 | Nibbler_ | hark: hmm so whats about useradd? |
| 15:37.16 | Coconutt | is that the way it should be ? |
| 15:37.24 | Dassu | hark: yes I do have it enabled |
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| 15:38.12 | floerp | abrotman: that might just be the perfect one, thanks |
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| 15:38.51 | Dassu | hark: nvm, sun-java6-jre works >_< |
| 15:39.00 | Dassu | But still had some propblems with one sun-java6 package |
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| 15:39.55 | Dassu | But my point is that I really need sun-java5-jre and it is available through debian packages so I dont understand why it isn't through repos |
| 15:39.58 | hark | Coconutt: no, did you run nm-applet? |
| 15:40.04 | Nibbler_ | hark: the reason why iam so keen on this because i want to enter crypted passwords and adduser seems not to have this functionality |
| 15:40.42 | Coconutt | no i don't find it |
| 15:41.37 | Dassu | hark: ok, man. I think I found edited source for the program i needed. So I can run it with java6 |
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| 15:41.50 | hark | Coconutt: pastebin apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome |
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| 15:42.20 | Coconutt | pastebin doesn't work |
| 15:42.22 | Dassu | however ...:P Trying to isntall fuse-j so I can install imapfs |
| 15:42.37 | Dassu | but I think imapfs might only work with java5 so I might still need it |
| 15:43.03 | Coconutt | without it's said it's installed |
| 15:43.17 | Nibbler_ | Coconutt: dpkg-reconfigure network-manager-gnome |
| 15:44.37 | Coconutt | stil not in the applets |
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| 15:44.53 | hark | Coconutt: how are you runnig nm-applet? |
| 15:44.54 | Nibbler_ | Coconutt: there must be a Notification area |
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| 15:45.17 | Nibbler_ | Coconutt: rightclick on your bar ( i assume you got gnome) and than you add the notification area |
| 15:45.38 | Nibbler_ | Coconutt: the nm-applet usually appears there by itself than without doing additional configuration |
| 15:45.39 | Coconutt | that's what i do |
| 15:45.45 | Coconutt | but there's no applet for nm |
| 15:45.49 | hark | Coconutt: run it from the terminal |
| 15:47.19 | Coconutt | works with the terminal thx |
| 15:47.42 | Coconutt | but there's no option for a wireless connection |
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| 15:47.47 | Coconutt | no |
| 15:47.49 | Coconutt | it's okay |
| 15:47.53 | Coconutt | just the time to lead |
| 15:47.56 | Coconutt | load* |
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| 15:48.27 | Nibbler_ | hark: is there maybe a user-reconfig tool which can do the job of modifying the user? |
| 15:48.35 | kardan | i am ingoring this problem since days but its comfortable to do so |
| 15:48.40 | hark | Coconutt: you just left click it and select your network from the list |
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| 15:48.57 | Coconutt | yes i see the networks :) |
| 15:49.07 | Coconutt | thank you all |
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| 15:50.25 | hark | Nibbler_: don't know about the passwords bit, but if you need additional configuration with adduser, there;s /usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/ |
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| 15:51.11 | hark | afk |
| 15:51.20 | Nibbler_ | hark: thx i will have a look into it, too bad usermod also just have uids |
| 15:52.14 | hark | no usermod should be helpful as well, but later |
| 15:53.27 | Coconutt | the signal is less than 50% but I'm 1meter away from the modem there's a problem or...? |
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| 15:55.08 | dmi3on | hi, i what set up IRC server in office |
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| 15:55.14 | dmi3on | can any one help please |
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| 15:55.23 | dmi3on | from were to start |
| 15:55.48 | azeem | dmi3on: read the documentation |
| 15:56.23 | simonrvn | watches dmi3on's hopes of being hand held be dashed into flames |
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| 15:57.02 | dmi3on | hehe |
| 15:57.03 | heyuxiang | hi |
| 15:57.53 | dmi3on | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ircd here is like some many thing i am lost |
| 15:58.05 | dmi3on | that why i am asking to for more help |
| 15:59.01 | mavhc | have you found which package to install? |
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| 16:00.58 | dmi3on | mavch, no :( |
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| 16:02.48 | mavhc | ircd-hybrid is probably the most common |
| 16:03.28 | dmi3on | mavch, Package ircd-hybrid lenny (stable) |
| 16:03.32 | dmi3on | this one is good ? |
| 16:04.06 | abrotman | dmi3on: try it .. let us know |
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| 16:06.54 | dmN`` | Hi, anyone know why this dosn't work? http://rafb.net/p/iKPIM321.html |
| 16:07.17 | dmi3on | thats is the problem what irc server to choice |
| 16:07.27 | mavhc | that one should be fine |
| 16:07.50 | dmi3on | mavch, is it very hard to set it up first time ? |
| 16:08.16 | mavhc | well, you can install it and just connect |
| 16:08.32 | mavhc | I never got around to actually making myself an ircop or anything |
| 16:09.14 | dmi3on | i need to be able use web based irc clients connect to server |
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| 16:09.45 | dmi3on | what bandwidht server needs when it has up to 500 clients at a time ? |
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| 16:10.57 | simonrvn | dmi3on: irc has rfcs, plus some have extensions beyond the rfcs, so it's you know, standard. your web irc clients will be able to connect.... telnet can connect... |
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| 16:13.00 | dmi3on | ok thx |
| 16:13.18 | dmi3on | i will be back when start installing server :) |
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| 16:19.35 | him89 | anyone hear in India/Bangalore with Debian 5 DVS? |
| 16:19.37 | him89 | DVD |
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| 16:22.40 | jester_ | hey someone that is a op needs to kick/ban KIRKKARaMiLer they are pming porn websites |
| 16:22.54 | Coconut_ | hi again |
| 16:23.03 | orgthingy | jester_: /ignore KIRKKARaMiLer |
| 16:23.06 | orgthingy | use that command |
| 16:23.10 | orgthingy | but thats for telling us |
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| 16:23.16 | simonrvn | !ops KIRKKARaMiLer join spam |
| 16:23.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: KIRKKARaMiLer join spam |
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| 16:23.32 | Coconut_ | hark you here ? |
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| 16:23.41 | abrotman | there it goes :) |
| 16:23.52 | simonrvn | ping! ;) |
| 16:23.59 | jester_ | ty |
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| 16:24.14 | simonrvn | pats a2 |
| 16:24.43 | Coconut_ | arf |
| 16:24.48 | Coconut_ | so |
| 16:24.53 | Coconut_ | anyone can help me ? |
| 16:25.07 | Coconut_ | i installed the wifi with ethernet and it worked |
| 16:25.17 | Coconut_ | i moved my computer to my room |
| 16:25.28 | Coconut_ | but there's no more nm-applet |
| 16:26.02 | Coconut_ | i tried to run it with the terminal but noway |
| 16:26.46 | orgthingy | Coconut_: no nm-applet or no connection? |
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| 16:29.06 | Coconut_ | there's an error like authentication rejected : none of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentification failed |
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| 16:29.18 | Coconut_ | when i tried to run the applet from the terminal |
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| 16:29.25 | bloopletech | how do I get mouse support in textmode? |
| 16:29.41 | Jemt | Coconut_: cat /etc/group |
| 16:29.48 | Jemt | Coconut_: Wait |
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| 16:30.12 | Jemt | Coconut_: cat /etc/group | grep -i net |
| 16:30.14 | simonrvn | bloopletech: textmode what? console? |
| 16:30.15 | Jemt | What does it say ? |
| 16:30.21 | simonrvn | gpm if so |
| 16:30.27 | bloopletech | the text mode console, i.e. running outside X |
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| 16:31.05 | jelly-home | !uuoc Jemt |
| 16:31.05 | dpkg | hands Jemt the "unnecessary use of cat" award |
| 16:31.17 | Jemt | jelly-home: ? |
| 16:31.29 | jelly-home | Jemt: grep -i net /etc/group |
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| 16:31.35 | Jemt | jelly-home: Oh :p |
| 16:31.37 | Coconut_ | i'm not on my computer anymore i can't copy and paste everything |
| 16:31.39 | oculus_ | How do I see my current init level |
| 16:31.44 | bloopletech | simonrvn: cool thanks, that worked |
| 16:31.52 | Jemt | Coconut_: Is your username on the line ? |
| 16:31.56 | abrotman | oculus_: 'runlevel' |
| 16:32.12 | bloopletech | another stupid question: once I've selected some text with the mouse, how do I copy and paste it? |
| 16:32.17 | simonrvn | a of course it did ;) |
| 16:32.20 | oculus_ | thx |
| 16:32.27 | Jemt | Coconut_: You should get something like this: netdev:x:108:username |
| 16:32.30 | jelly-home | oculus_: who -r |
| 16:32.42 | Jemt | Coconut_: I have to go in 4 minutes |
| 16:32.47 | simonrvn | bloopletech: like in x |
| 16:32.53 | abrotman | four? |
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| 16:33.04 | bloopletech | simonrvn: This is the bit where I admit I don't use X |
| 16:33.12 | simonrvn | select/copy with left, paste with middle |
| 16:33.17 | jelly-home | where did this runlevel command appear from? |
| 16:33.43 | simonrvn | been around a while jelly-home |
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| 16:33.56 | Coconut_ | there's not |
| 16:34.20 | Jemt | Coconut_: Make sure your username is in the group file (/etc/group) on the following line: netdev:x:108:username - when it's added, restart and reload dbus: /etc/init.d/dbus restart && /etc/init.d/dbus reload |
| 16:34.31 | Coconut_ | ok thx |
| 16:34.34 | bloopletech | and, if I only have a 1 or 2 button mouse, how do I simulate a middle-click? |
| 16:34.35 | Coconut_ | i'm gonna try |
| 16:34.37 | Jemt | Coconut_: Then try nm-applet again |
| 16:34.38 | Coconut_ | see you |
| 16:34.46 | Jemt | Bye :) |
| 16:35.02 | Coconut_ | bye and thanks again |
| 16:35.06 | Coconut_ | arf |
| 16:35.30 | abrotman | bloopletech: hit them both at once |
| 16:35.40 | bloopletech | t;) |
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| 16:36.10 | bloopletech | this is the bit where I admit I'm using a debian in a vm and that the host os is os x on a mac book, so I can't left and right click at the same time |
| 16:36.17 | bloopletech | although |
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| 16:36.48 | sudharsh | hi people |
| 16:36.53 | sudharsh | i am new ti irc |
| 16:36.53 | hark | bloopletech: with a two button mouse, right click should paste |
| 16:36.58 | ronh | hi |
| 16:36.58 | bloopletech | ok |
| 16:37.04 | orgthingy | sudharsh: welcome to irc! |
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| 16:37.17 | sudharsh | hi thanks |
| 16:37.42 | sudharsh | i am using debian recently |
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| 16:38.01 | sudharsh | got ay=ttracted with the interface |
| 16:38.02 | jelly-home | simonrvn: in my time we only had who -r and we were glad! |
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| 16:38.08 | bloopletech | hark, simonrvn: thanks |
| 16:38.17 | sudharsh | i have some problem with that can any one solv it |
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| 16:38.57 | bloopletech | sudharsh: just go ahead and ask your question |
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| 16:39.10 | bloopletech | :) |
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| 16:39.51 | bloopletech | Ah, that's why my results are correct; my calculaions are a 1000x of |
| 16:40.11 | simonrvn | jelly-home: heh |
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| 16:40.37 | TheMadRussian | can you use do a debootstrap install on one box but for another if its the same arch? |
| 16:42.43 | sudharsh | tamil uniocode fonts are not worl=king in debian |
| 16:42.51 | sudharsh | how to make tamil fonts support |
| 16:42.53 | sudharsh | in debian |
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| 16:43.33 | sudharsh | thn i am not able to install packages using apt-get if i press tab its not completing the package name |
| 16:43.42 | bloopletech | standard sector size is 512 bytes correct? |
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| 16:44.07 | bloopletech | AWWW YEAH |
| 16:44.13 | bloopletech | DAYLIGHT SAVINGS JUST KICKED IN |
| 16:44.18 | bloopletech | I get an extra hour |
| 16:45.31 | ronh | oh? I lost an hour a week ago |
| 16:45.31 | bloopletech | I lost *my* hour 6 months ago |
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| 16:45.31 | ronh | lucky southerns : > |
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| 16:45.32 | bloopletech | I think this is possibly the first time I've been up when daylight savings actually happends |
| 16:45.42 | bloopletech | The mac book changed on it's own ;) |
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| 16:48.02 | bloopletech | how many bytes in a 'block'? |
| 16:48.12 | bloopletech | i.e. the blocks that vmstat report on? |
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| 16:50.42 | jelly-home | bloopletech: man vmstat: [...] All linux blocks are currently 1024 bytes. |
| 16:51.08 | bloopletech | jelly-home: thanks! |
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| 16:56.07 | xcdfgkjhgcv | abrotman: Is 2GB of encrypted swap enough to hibernate (suspend to disk) a machine with 2GB of RAM? |
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| 17:02.43 | lupine_85 | is anyone here running debian on a laptop with a working "disable the trackpad" button? |
| 17:03.02 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: Yep |
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| 17:03.10 | lupine_85 | is trying to get his working but its keycode needs mapping appropriately - and he doesn't know what to map it to |
| 17:03.10 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: My Eee PC. |
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| 17:03.17 | lupine_85 | xcdfgkjhgcv, does it show up in xev? |
| 17:03.37 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: What is xev? |
| 17:03.46 | lupine_85 | x event test thing |
| 17:04.08 | lupine_85 | basically you start it up from the command line, give the resulting window focus, and press the button |
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| 17:04.47 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: Unfortunately, the program which disables it for me is temporarily broken. |
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| 17:05.00 | lupine_85 | ah, you use a 3rd party program? |
| 17:05.05 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: Yes. |
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| 17:05.09 | lupine_85 | what's it called? :) |
| 17:05.14 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: eee-control |
| 17:05.22 | lupine_85 | ok, thanks |
| 17:05.27 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: The author, zgreg, is in #eeepc |
| 17:05.41 | xcdfgkjhgcv | lupine_85: NP |
| 17:05.52 | hmtt | hi all, i setup my maradns server but now my serwer works very slowly, what can i do? |
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| 17:09.09 | bloopletech | what can I do to hammer the cpu? |
| 17:09.32 | jetscreamer | compile |
| 17:09.47 | bloopletech | hmm |
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| 17:09.54 | jetscreamer | !benchmark |
| 17:09.54 | dpkg | i guess benchmark is $ time foo; |
| 17:10.13 | bloopletech | now I need something to compile |
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| 17:10.30 | jetscreamer | !kernel-package |
| 17:10.30 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>, or just http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en, or <kernel build-deps> |
| 17:10.38 | jetscreamer | !kp |
| 17:10.39 | dpkg | kernel-package is deprecated, see <kernel compile> ; or 'aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev'. Follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz; You should also ask me about <make-kpkg> and <kp mantra>. Ask me about <kernel build-deps>. |
| 17:11.06 | bloopletech | actually I have just the thing |
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| 17:11.17 | jetscreamer | kde? :) |
| 17:11.20 | xingu | !info cpuburn |
| 17:11.22 | dpkg | cpuburn: (a collection of programs to put heavy load on CPU), section misc, is extra. Version: 1.4-38 (sid), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 17:11.41 | jetscreamer | !xingu++ |
| 17:11.46 | bloopletech | thanks xingu |
| 17:11.48 | simonrvn | wot, k-p deprecated? |
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| 17:12.00 | hark | oh yes |
| 17:12.01 | jetscreamer | yeah something about a new magic makefile or something.. not sure |
| 17:12.05 | bloopletech | jetscreamer: I was going to run a fibonacci sequence calculator I wrote some time ago |
| 17:12.07 | simonrvn | !kernel compile |
| 17:12.07 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) see http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage ; it used to be recommended to use <make-kpkg> but this is deprecated with newer kernels. (see <kp> <kp mantra>) |
| 17:12.21 | simonrvn | O_O |
| 17:12.30 | simonrvn | checks it out |
| 17:12.38 | xingu | thou and likewise |
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| 17:12.59 | jetscreamer | the kerneldev was saying something about makefiles in response to some complaint iirc.. not sure at all |
| 17:13.06 | mettwuerstl | hi all. I installed nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx in debian lenny and set driver "nvidia" in the xorg.conf. startx causes no problems, but the graphic seems to be very slow. for example, scrolling in firefox is very slow. I use nvidia geforce4 ti 4200 |
| 17:13.43 | bloopletech | how do I find out where a package installed it's executable? |
| 17:14.04 | jetscreamer | mettwuerstl: glxinfo |grep -i vendor .. all should say nvidia |
| 17:14.11 | hark | bloopletech: dpkg -L foo |grep bin/ |
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| 17:15.11 | mettwuerstel | jetscreamer: mh.. output: server glx vendor string: SGI - client glx vendor string: SGI - OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc |
| 17:15.27 | bloopletech | haha, :usage=>Infinity |
| 17:15.31 | bloopletech | thakns hark et al |
| 17:15.41 | bloopletech | it's certainly using the cpu |
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| 17:15.52 | mettwuerstel | so it seems I did something wrong |
| 17:15.56 | mettwuerstel | argh |
| 17:15.58 | mettwuerstel | wait.. |
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| 17:16.02 | jetscreamer | mettwuerstel: that's the problem |
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| 17:16.19 | jetscreamer | there are two nvidia packages iirc |
| 17:16.33 | simonrvn | either the page is incomprehensible, or i'm tired and nothing's registering. |
| 17:16.34 | mettwuerstel | jetscreamer: sorry, I'm stupid. typed the command in the wrong pc ;-) |
| 17:17.12 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 17:17.21 | mettwuerstel | jetscreamer:output is "unable to open display" |
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| 17:19.06 | jetscreamer | not sure... i use the nvidia-installer |
| 17:19.29 | jetscreamer | did you install both nvidia packages? there's a glx and a kernel one, iirc... i could be thinking old though |
| 17:19.38 | mettwuerstel | the nvidia driver seems to be loaded successfully.. there are no errors in the xorg.0log |
| 17:19.54 | jetscreamer | no idea dude :/ |
| 17:20.11 | jetscreamer | that's in an xterm eh |
| 17:20.18 | jetscreamer | the glxinfo |
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| 17:21.21 | mettwuerstel | jetscreamer: omg.. ok, now everything seems correct: server glx vendotr string, client glx vendor string and opengl vendor string are all nvidia |
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| 17:23.07 | jetscreamer | my dryer is broken :/ |
| 17:23.28 | mettwuerstel | jetscreamer: I installed both nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx and nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 17:23.47 | jetscreamer | that's all i know to check with the debian packages dude |
| 17:23.50 | jetscreamer | sorry |
| 17:23.56 | jetscreamer | maybe somebody else |
| 17:23.58 | mettwuerstel | mh, ok. thank you. |
| 17:24.12 | jetscreamer | !nvrun |
| 17:24.12 | dpkg | For a quick nvidia-installer how-to, try http://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt Please note that #debian does not support the nvidia-installer, ask for assistance in #nvidia , if need be. |
| 17:24.14 | mettwuerstel | can anybody else help me? |
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| 17:24.36 | xingu | simonrvn: if you turn up anything about this new makefile zap me a link too; I can see that the gist is that what kpkg used to do is now in the source package's debian/rules, but how you go from "vanilla source" to "debian build framework embraced" in the new scheme of things isn't completely clear to me |
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| 17:25.22 | xingu | simonrvn: what I like about kpkg is that it's dead simple to make it work on upstream *unpatched* source; I have a funny feeling I'm about to lose out here |
| 17:25.46 | xingu | simonrvn: it'd be neat to see some mailinglist discussion about the rationale for deprecating kpkg |
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| 17:29.23 | ronh | How will I have to edit sources.list in a new minimal debian5 install to enable testing or unstable? |
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| 17:32.49 | VampirePenguin | i notice when i do a netstat and the servcies im running are both ipv4 and ipv6... how do i turn off the ipv6 side of it |
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| 17:34.18 | xororand | VampirePenguin: either block IPv6 via ip6tables or disable the ipv6 binding in the service's configuration, which varies from service to service |
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| 17:36.52 | edju | I installed lenny on my brother's Dell, then wicd. Using the bcmw15 driver w/ ndiswrapper. Module is loaded. ifconfig shows wlan0. iwlist wlan0 scan shows "no scan results". wicd shows "no wireless networks found". Wired connection works. What should I look for next? |
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| 17:37.25 | lupine_85 | edju, press the RF kill switch |
| 17:37.29 | lupine_85 | then try again |
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| 17:38.37 | lupine_85 | aznd ifup before you iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 17:38.41 | lupine_85 | well, ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 17:38.55 | lupine_85 | rf kill switch needs to be on and interface has to be up |
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| 17:40.44 | xingu | simonrvn: aha, "scripts/package/Makefile.kpkg-dist: deb-pkg" target |
| 17:40.48 | oculus_ | How is this possible, my USB stick is showing as /dev/sda ? It should be /dev/sda1 or something, not like this |
| 17:41.48 | edju | lupine_85, This is embarrassing. Such a simple thing - thanks a lot. |
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| 17:43.57 | xingu | simonrvn: (well actually, lose the kpkg-dist bit, this is make-kpkg manglage; the point being, scripts/package/{Makefile,builddeb} exist in upstream source and in theory might cover this) |
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| 17:46.53 | simonrvn | xingu: it does for the most part, i've used that mech. once or twice. |
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| 17:49.42 | xingu | simonrvn: looks like that's the way of the future for values of future including "post july 2008" |
| 17:50.00 | xingu | simonrvn: make config/ make deb-pkg, iotw. |
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| 17:52.26 | oculus_ | So what debian image I can fit in a 100mb USB? |
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| 17:55.03 | acemi | oculus_: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/usb-hdd/ |
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| 17:55.09 | acemi | minimum image is 143 MB |
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| 17:56.13 | oculus_ | fffuuuu, I can only fit 105mb |
| 17:56.29 | oculus_ | And all I wanted was a network install |
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| 17:57.05 | acemi | you can prepare your live image |
| 17:57.11 | oculus_ | How |
| 17:57.24 | acemi | http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 17:57.32 | lupine_85 | edju, I like the simple ones :) |
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| 17:58.07 | abrotman | he could use the business card |
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| 18:00.20 | tuv | is there a way to have mc display human-readable file sizes? how? |
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| 18:01.28 | acemi | oculus_: you can boot from network too without using any disk space |
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| 18:03.48 | oculus_ | Now my debian install got stuck in a loop, it says framebuffer not available and disabling graphical frontend. How can I install without graphics? |
| 18:04.13 | valdyn | oculus_: loop? X should stop after ~5 tries |
| 18:04.19 | oculus_ | It doesnt stop |
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| 18:04.21 | pickcoder | I thought the installer starts in text mode |
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| 18:04.41 | oculus_ | Well it is in the text mode and still it complains about graphical frontend, strange |
| 18:05.14 | valdyn | oculus_: you can change the installer mode at the boot screen |
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| 18:05.23 | oculus_ | Im trying to install in Samsung NC10 laptop, it should worrk, some people have got it to work without problems |
| 18:05.57 | oculus_ | But is this mode as low as it can go? Its text mode with colors. Can I get installer with only black and white? |
| 18:06.03 | Coccinelle | why is my network 0% and i can't go on the web while i'm connected ? |
| 18:06.19 | mac123 | hi i have 2 x320 gb HDD i want to make a software raid0 does anyone know good tutorial |
| 18:06.28 | bzed | man mdadm |
| 18:06.35 | valdyn | Coccinelle: what the hell is that supposed to mean? network at 0% ? |
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| 18:06.47 | {g} | Hey People! What does it mean, when "mount" outputs nothing? This might be a virtualized os, but I dont know. |
| 18:06.51 | bzed | mac123: instaead of raid0 I'd use lvm |
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| 18:07.00 | chomwitt | why glibc-doc-reference pkg is in non-free section? The pdf it has has the gpl license! |
| 18:07.02 | valdyn | {g}: it means that /etc/mtab is empty |
| 18:07.18 | {g} | valdyn: how is / mounted then? |
| 18:07.25 | valdyn | {g}: or i got confused probably it means that /proc/ is not mounted |
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| 18:07.43 | valdyn | {g}: you can mount just find without keeping track of what you have mounted |
| 18:07.48 | valdyn | {g}: you can mount just fine without keeping track of what you have mounted |
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| 18:08.03 | valdyn | {g}: i remember that "df" reads /etc/mtab, not sure about mount, strace it |
| 18:08.28 | Coccinelle | i'm not english so forgive me ok valdyn ? |
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| 18:08.51 | valdyn | Coccinelle: problem is not forgiving, its understanding you being essential to get help |
| 18:09.18 | valdyn | {g}: / does not need to be "mounted" at all |
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| 18:09.29 | Coccinelle | that means i'm connected to the network with a signal more than 0% (as i see it) but it's written that i'm connected with 0% of signal so i can't get the net |
| 18:09.43 | {g} | valdyn: df shows mounted directories. |
| 18:09.45 | {g} | this might be a virtual os. i dont know. i would like to know though. |
| 18:10.09 | valdyn | {g}: read /proc/mounts |
| 18:10.48 | valdyn | Coccinelle: whats the output of "iwconfig | grep Quality" ? |
| 18:11.24 | {g} | valdyn: there is a ton of stuff in /proc/mounts |
| 18:11.26 | valdyn | {g}: theres some program that does virt detection |
| 18:11.31 | Coccinelle | gonna check it, must reboot |
| 18:11.44 | valdyn | Coccinelle: forget it if you have to reboot for each test |
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| 18:11.51 | valdyn | Coccinelle: that way we'd take hours |
| 18:12.07 | Coccinelle | i can connect to the chan from another womputer |
| 18:12.08 | {g} | valdyn: yes? i dont know about it. |
| 18:12.10 | Coccinelle | computer* |
| 18:12.21 | Coccinelle | but i won't be able to write the whole answers |
| 18:12.40 | valdyn | {g}: imvirt |
| 18:13.02 | valdyn | {g}: or maybe just cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 18:13.02 | mac123 | @ bzed what is LVM |
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| 18:13.35 | mac123 | man mdadm is not working :( |
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| 18:13.37 | xcdfgkjhgcv | How much of a liability is an unencrypted swap partition to my encrypted /home partition? |
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| 18:13.47 | valdyn | mac123: so fix it |
| 18:13.50 | xcdfgkjhgcv | s/liability/vulnerability/ |
| 18:13.54 | {g} | valdyn: what would you look for in cpuinfo? |
| 18:14.03 | valdyn | xcdfgkjhgcv: thats a silly question |
| 18:14.12 | xcdfgkjhgcv | valdyn: Why? |
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| 18:14.46 | valdyn | xcdfgkjhgcv: which part about that ( ovious ) vulnerability do you not understand? |
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| 18:15.04 | xcdfgkjhgcv | valdyn: It as a whole. |
| 18:15.43 | xcdfgkjhgcv | valdyn: Do you mind explaining? |
| 18:15.44 | valdyn | xcdfgkjhgcv: /home content might actually be used, thus it can end up being in ram, which in turn makes it an option that it gets swapped out and ends up on plain on your swap |
| 18:16.06 | ssa | hi i have problem with installing Debian.AMD64.netinstall.iso...i stuck on configuring apt-get...when i am try to choos any mirror i get error that this mirror dont support my release...so icant make netinstall x( |
| 18:16.35 | valdyn | ssa: which release are you trying to install? |
| 18:16.41 | mac123 | it shows No manual entry for mdadm |
| 18:16.49 | valdyn | mac123: then install the manpage |
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| 18:16.53 | Coccinelle | valdyn the signal level is 0 |
| 18:16.55 | valdyn | mac123: and mdadm with it |
| 18:17.02 | Coccinelle | not in the graph arg |
| 18:17.06 | valdyn | mac123: mdadm the package includes the manpage i guess |
| 18:17.18 | pickcoder | valdyn: the same can be said for /var/ which is where encrypted database files are normally kept |
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| 18:17.41 | valdyn | pickcoder: yes, sure, what does that have to do with anything ? |
| 18:18.14 | pickcoder | it's more of an argument than /home/ but in the same sense of swap being unencrypted |
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| 18:18.19 | ssa | valdyn: 5.0 Lenny |
| 18:18.49 | valdyn | pickcoder: s#/home#anything you want to keep secret# |
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| 18:19.23 | valdyn | ssa: alt-f2, try if you have network at all, which i think you might not |
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| 18:19.55 | mac123 | i dont have mdadm installed to its not showing any man page but it shows man page for others |
| 18:20.14 | valdyn | mac123: so? |
| 18:20.42 | Coccinelle | nothing to do with me ? i always had a good signal with ubuntu and the same configuration as with debian (ndiswrapper etc) and i still have the wifi with vista at the same place |
| 18:20.47 | here4thegear | Hi all. you know when you go to ftp://site.com and you get that prompt for user name and password? I am wanting to create the same effect for a subdomain https:, how can I achieve that? |
| 18:20.47 | Coccinelle | i don't understand |
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| 18:21.07 | ssa | valdyn: dont think that i am noob...i configured net manually |
| 18:21.11 | valdyn | Coccinelle: signal strength is also 0 when you are not connected at all |
| 18:21.22 | RayTracer | here4thegear, .htaccess |
| 18:21.24 | valdyn | ssa: then ping the server that is not working |
| 18:21.38 | ssa | valdyn: all mirrors not working x( |
| 18:21.53 | valdyn | ssa: can you ping those mirrors? |
| 18:22.00 | here4thegear | RayTracer: thanks... |
| 18:22.09 | Coccinelle | valdyn: it is |
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| 18:22.52 | cremetorte | hi, my postfix server gives incoming mail to spamassassin and then to maildrop , that works pretty well. my problem now: postfix ignores forward entrys in database ( virtual users handled in database ). instead forwarding correctly, postfix instantly gives mail to spamassassin and to maildrop so that i cant make a proper catchall account |
| 18:23.08 | ssa | valdyn: on installler ? |
| 18:23.24 | valdyn | ssa: yea, at the same "place" where you cannot use the mirrors |
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| 18:23.46 | cremetorte | maildrop then just says: unknown user <something@domain.tld> but in forwardings there is <@domain.tld> <catch@domain.tld> |
| 18:23.56 | xcdfgkjhgcv | valdyn: eeek that's not good! |
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| 18:23.57 | mac123 | ok done installing but i got this error at the end Assembling MD arrays...failed (no arrays found in config file or automatically). |
| 18:23.58 | ssa | valdyn: i used graphical installer so i dont know how i can ping there x( |
| 18:24.12 | valdyn | ssa: you hit alt-f2 |
| 18:24.47 | ssa | oh |
| 18:25.25 | ssa | but dont think that this is problem |
| 18:25.28 | valdyn | ssa: manually = filled out forms in installer? |
| 18:25.56 | valdyn | ssa: i cant help you if you "think" |
| 18:26.10 | valdyn | ssa: i can assure you taht the mirrors are ok, most of them |
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| 18:26.51 | lupine_85 | boos at his kernel not supporting the eee pc way of doing things |
| 18:27.04 | ssa | valdyn: i think all of mirrors are good |
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| 18:27.39 | lupine_85 | heeee, got it |
| 18:27.42 | ssa | valdyn: i installed it when etch was stable and lenny testing by the same way... |
| 18:27.43 | lupine_85 | modprobe -r psmouse |
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| 18:27.56 | frog_ | hi, i try to configure canon pixma mp630... i have installed the drivers . but when i try to print something, i have only the printer display, that the data are beeing printed, but the printer doesn't do anything |
| 18:28.24 | Coccinelle | valdyn: hope the only thing to do is getting connect with an ethernet cable it is ? |
| 18:28.30 | valdyn | ssa: i dont understand your problem then where you said that you have problems installing debian/amd64 *now* |
| 18:28.50 | valdyn | Coccinelle: probably |
| 18:29.42 | ssa | valdyn: yea sure..dont be angry please....i just said that i installed it by the same way and before it works...and now no x( |
| 18:29.48 | jintxo | ssa, you're not using the same CD you were using back then, when lenny was testing, are you? |
| 18:29.57 | Coccinelle | valdyn: is the problem with the fact i use ndiswrapper ? |
| 18:30.02 | jintxo | just an idea :-) |
| 18:30.19 | valdyn | ssa: just get the lenny/stable installer |
| 18:30.32 | valdyn | Coccinelle: i do not have any useful information to work with |
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| 18:30.57 | ssa | jintxo, valdyn not the same...newest |
| 18:31.01 | valdyn | Coccinelle: certainly it could be ndiswrapper. |
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| 18:31.40 | valdyn | ssa: so you are actually using an up to date lenny installer and networking seems broken. And you dont want to test pinging the servers? |
| 18:31.54 | Coccinelle | could you have a better idea of the problem if i enter things in the terminal ? |
| 18:32.19 | valdyn | Coccinelle: which wlan chip are you using? |
| 18:32.33 | valdyn | Coccinelle: is ndiswrapper really required? |
| 18:32.39 | ssa | valdyn: i test it tommorow...and now i am looking for other ideas |
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| 18:33.18 | Coccinelle | yes |
| 18:33.25 | valdyn | ssa: your networking is broken - that could range from broken or no dns server being setup to driver issues or router issues |
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| 18:33.36 | Coccinelle | thei use a marvell libertas wg311v3 |
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| 18:34.16 | valdyn | Coccinelle: i think you should google for someone else explaining how to use that hardware |
| 18:34.23 | ssa | valdyn: yea DNS...this can be problem ... i remember now |
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| 18:34.35 | valdyn | Coccinelle: I myself have a huge problem helping you with a nopaste and a language barrier in between |
| 18:34.54 | Coccinelle | i already did, i installed everything, i've been helped for it everything is ok |
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| 18:35.34 | shaft0 | I'm trying to install Debian Lenny. I've tried about six times now. Every time the install finishes, it fails boot and says: mount: mounsting /dev/sda1 on /root failed: No such device |
| 18:35.37 | Coccinelle | i won't be able to paste in anyway |
| 18:35.39 | shaft0 | any ideas? |
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| 18:35.50 | shaft0 | then it drops me to BusyBox |
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| 18:36.58 | dmi3on | any one know what are best java IRC clients ? |
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| 18:37.34 | ssa | valdyn: can i set /home to the same partition where is / ? |
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| 18:37.39 | valdyn | shaft0: find the disk, if its not sda1 its probable some other |
| 18:37.51 | valdyn | shaft0: you can read /proc/partitions in busybox |
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| 18:38.07 | valdyn | ssa: sure |
| 18:38.14 | bmoll8 | what is the equivalent of passing compile time options (via make config on a fbsd box) for debian packages? Suppose I want to include a php5 module in my install of apache22 on debian; how would I go about it? |
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| 18:38.29 | ssa | valdyn: can you tell me how ? :) |
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| 18:38.35 | bmoll8 | I am considering using debian on a computer that will server as a desktop |
| 18:39.02 | valdyn | bmoll8: thats not a compile option |
| 18:39.07 | paroneayea | How does one change the video driver being used in squeeze/testing? I'm used to the classic xorg.conf way... looks like things have been abstracted out of that to hal or something? |
| 18:39.16 | Coccinelle | valdyn: if this can help you i was able to access the web in wifi when i was 1meter away from the modem, the signal was wick but existed |
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| 18:39.19 | valdyn | bmoll8: thats a matter of instal the appropriate php package |
| 18:39.56 | jpinx | shaft0: what partitioning are you using when you do the install? |
| 18:40.04 | valdyn | bmoll8: "apt-cache search php5 apache" |
| 18:40.30 | shaft0 | valdyn: So the problem is is it's trying to load SDA1 for root when it should be loading SDC1, is there a way to change that in busybox or do i have to boot from a livecd and change my fstab around? |
| 18:40.35 | valdyn | Coccinelle: its possible that ndiswrapper can deal with it properly |
| 18:40.48 | shaft0 | come to think of it, can I change my fstab from busybox so that I can reference the drives by label rather than location? |
| 18:40.58 | valdyn | Coccinelle: signal strength regulation is probably done in software and is not working nicely, i couldnt fix that |
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| 18:41.17 | Coccinelle | ok |
| 18:41.28 | valdyn | shaft0: you only need to adjust the entries in your boot manager |
| 18:41.40 | valdyn | shaft0: fstab is NOT responsbile for moutning / |
| 18:41.43 | bmoll8 | valdyn: I see; a bit different, but manageable |
| 18:41.57 | valdyn | shaft0: uh or not responsible for moutning /boot, i forgot |
| 18:42.16 | Coccinelle | thank you anyway i will search by my own |
| 18:42.24 | ssa | valdyn: can you tell me answer if you know ? |
| 18:42.24 | valdyn | shaft0: you will see a wrong output of "df" later if boot manager and fstab entries for / dont match |
| 18:42.35 | shaft0 | valdyn: so I've got a problem with grub? |
| 18:42.39 | valdyn | shaft0: you can edit fstab from busybox, the boot manager live |
| 18:42.41 | damac | Hey, I'm having trouble getting anything to compile with Lenny. 'make' complains: make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 18:42.53 | damac | Any idea what this means? |
| 18:43.05 | valdyn | ssa: not setting home to an extra partition makes it be on / |
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| 18:43.57 | valdyn | bmoll8: apache2 mods are all named after this layout: libapache2-mod-<name> |
| 18:43.58 | ssa | valdyn: i try it...but when i testing before....i couldnt load anythig :D |
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| 18:44.54 | shaft0 | jpinx: i use a 160gb drive split into 2 physical partitions, a swap and /. Then I have a RAID5 (/dev/md0) setup with 5 1tb drives that mounts to /var/media. |
| 18:45.04 | shaft0 | that's a physical volume too |
| 18:45.07 | shaft0 | no LVM's |
| 18:45.46 | ssa | ok i go sleep bye |
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| 18:46.23 | shaft0 | im not clear on what i have to do |
| 18:46.29 | damac | Not sure, but the issue might be 'fatal error: opening dependency file .deps/main.Tpo: Permission denied' |
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| 18:46.50 | shaft0 | and google isn't turning up anything (though admittedly I could be searching for the wrong thing) |
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| 18:47.35 | Coconut | valdyn: i did a iwlist wlan0 scan. The answer for the quality is 29%, the signal level is -77 dBm and the noise level -96dBm, does this help you ? |
| 18:47.57 | Coconut | valdyn: i'm really sorry but i can't find anyone in the french chans |
| 18:48.15 | valdyn | Coconut: scan lists signal strength without connecting , iwconfig Quality lists quality of the connection |
| 18:48.25 | valdyn | Coconut: so i told you earlier that you are probably not connected |
| 18:48.45 | Coconut | i am not for this test |
| 18:49.04 | Coconut | i don't understan what dBm means |
| 18:49.19 | damac | This has happened with everything I've tried to compile so far.... any ideas? |
| 18:49.21 | valdyn | Coconut: you dont need to, the 29% is enough info |
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| 18:49.30 | valdyn | Coconut: its good enough to connect, normally |
| 18:50.01 | swolchok | is squeeze still bumpy? |
| 18:50.05 | Coconut | normally... |
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| 18:50.55 | paroneayea | swolchok: squeeze is running great for me minus the whole "weird intel graphics driver bug that makes firefox render things badly" |
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| 18:51.22 | damac | Is this the right place to ask? |
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| 18:53.11 | LiCeT | hi all |
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| 18:53.40 | superjoe | I've been using debian squeeze and yesterday my sound stopped working - no applications can use sound. Could this be anything to do with squeeze? |
| 18:53.49 | adb | !tell damac about b-e |
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| 18:54.40 | damac | what's b-e? |
| 18:55.13 | adb | read bot comments |
| 18:55.15 | asg | build-essential |
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| 18:55.44 | damac | apt-get install build-essentials |
| 18:55.44 | damac | Reading package lists... Done |
| 18:55.44 | damac | Building dependency tree |
| 18:55.44 | damac | Reading state information... Done |
| 18:55.44 | damac | E: Couldn't find package build-essentials |
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| 18:57.46 | Manu311 | hi, I need some help |
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| 18:58.34 | Maulkin | !ask |
| 18:58.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 19:00.04 | asg | damac: it's build-essential, not build-essentials |
| 19:00.08 | here4thegear | by default, when I add a user... where is that password saved to? |
| 19:00.16 | asg | here4thegear: /etc/shadow |
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| 19:01.16 | asg | here4thegear: granted, the password itself isn't saved, just a salted hash of it is (like at Waffle House) |
| 19:01.27 | damac | Have build-essentials installed but still getting make: *** [all] Error 2 |
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| 19:01.33 | jintxo | superjoe, probably something changed in alsa. tried running "alsaconf" as root ? |
| 19:02.11 | asg | damac: did you read the README and INSTALL files that came with the source code. You may have to run ./configure --foo to build the correct makefile. |
| 19:02.27 | here4thegear | asg: awesome thanks... if I put in my .htaccess file for a directory, AuthUserFile /etc/shadow will that do the trick for me? I'm wanting only users who I've added to have access to certain things |
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| 19:02.34 | shaft0 | So I've sort of narrowed down the problem. I booted into the installer, and it's saying that my root system is /dev/sda1, but when it's trying to boot normally it's /dev/sdc1. What the hell? |
| 19:02.35 | damac | sorry, but i didn't include the s in the apt call |
| 19:03.14 | Manu311 | My Network device randomly crashes since I reinstalled debian (squeeze) the last time. It happens nearly every hour, sometimes more often, sometimes less often. |
| 19:03.14 | Manu311 | When it happens I can't ping my own ip (192.168....) and when I restart my pc (because it's the only fix I found till now) it hangs up while shut down sequence. |
| 19:03.14 | Manu311 | It failed to terminate all processes but continues till he trys to quit portmap (even if I kill portmap before). |
| 19:03.21 | damac | it installed b-e without an issue |
| 19:03.31 | asg | here4thegear: I think there is a script that comes with apache that can convert entries from /etc/shadow to the proper format for .htaccess though I can't remember it off the top of my head. Someone else might know though. |
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| 19:03.40 | Manu311 | I didn't foo log event |
| 19:03.43 | Manu311 | found* |
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| 19:04.40 | adb | use lenny than |
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| 19:05.01 | damac | thanks! |
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| 19:05.45 | caraconan | Hi. There's a way to see online films from browser? |
| 19:05.59 | superjoe | jintxo: good call. I guess something triggered alsa to think that my ati graphics card was a sound card |
| 19:06.13 | Manu311 | (21:04:40) adb: use lenny than |
| 19:06.13 | Manu311 | that's not a help -.- |
| 19:06.16 | caraconan | I've got many .avi .mpeg ... files public available through apache. Can I see these files online? |
| 19:06.20 | here4thegear | asg: that's cool.. I can google for it... and just add it to my script for adding a user |
| 19:06.25 | jintxo | superjoe, yay for 3d sound |
| 19:06.34 | superjoe | haha |
| 19:06.57 | superjoe | wait, are you serious? |
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| 19:07.07 | jintxo | superjoe, no, lol |
| 19:07.57 | superjoe | jintxo: heh, for a second I thought there was some diabolical scheme to use a graphics card to do the 3d sound effects like openAL does and then pipe it back through the sound card |
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| 19:08.03 | adb | Manu311: here is lenny help channel |
| 19:08.13 | Manu311 | where is squeeze help channel? |
| 19:08.16 | Manu311 | it happens as well in lenny |
| 19:08.20 | adb | nowhere |
| 19:08.22 | Manu311 | it happened one time while I installed lenny |
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| 19:08.31 | abrotman | this channel is to support debian |
| 19:09.00 | abrotman | Manu311: did you check the BTS for bugs relating to your hardware? tried tweeking module parameters? google for similar events? |
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| 19:09.26 | Manu311 | google = nothing |
| 19:09.31 | Manu311 | BTS = what's that? |
| 19:09.35 | asg | !bts |
| 19:09.36 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges>. |
| 19:09.38 | Manu311 | and i have no idea of module parameters |
| 19:10.00 | Manu311 | it worked before i reinstalled debian last weak |
| 19:10.11 | Manu311 | week* |
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| 19:11.00 | akio | I am looking for a way to use rsync in which it copies only the files that are missing from a referenced tree - something like this: rsync -avz --exclude=(external drive with copy of home minus some directories) /home user@remote:. |
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| 19:12.36 | akio | i think I mean differential but I'm not sure |
| 19:12.43 | asg | akio: you probably need the --ignore-existing option |
| 19:13.09 | akio | asg: thanks I'll look at that |
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| 19:19.07 | akio | asg: actually I was looking for the --compare-dest option |
| 19:19.35 | asg | fair enough, at least you found the answer |
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| 19:20.21 | akio | yep, if you read the description it is exactly what I was looking for, thanks though. |
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| 19:21.24 | superjoe | jintxo: something is still awry... with amarok I get glitches when a sound begins, with the "play" CLI command it says "no handler for detected file type" and most importantly, 2 devices cannot play sound at the same time |
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| 19:24.21 | superjoe | hmm, it seems the problem is amarok wasn't using alsa to play sound, and I don't know what's wrong with the play command yet |
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| 19:26.47 | akio | asg: I still don't have a clue how to do what I want, lol |
| 19:27.09 | xingu | simonrvn: well that seems fairly easy so far; "fakeroot make -j4 deb-pkg"; package naming is a little different, and update-grub _isn't_ run by /etc/kernel/postinst.d (it is by the kpkg perl postinst scripts) so you've gotta remember to do that... |
| 19:27.17 | xingu | simonrvn: apart from that, much of a muchness. |
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| 19:27.37 | akio | I wish I could use the --compare-dest on the local machine instead of the destination |
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| 19:28.34 | asg | akio: perhaps I misunderstood what you wanted. I thought you wanted to only copy files from a -> b that didn't exist on b and not touch those that existed on b |
| 19:28.36 | izik | how do i mount nfs dir that have user/password permission? |
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| 19:28.58 | martianlobster | I started x, for user, clarks, with "startx". I started x, for user, joe, with "startx -- :1" How can I switch from one X session to another? |
| 19:29.05 | akio | I think it can be described this way, copy the difference of two local dirs to remote dir |
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| 19:29.20 | asg | akio: oh, okay |
| 19:29.29 | gravity | martianlobster: ctrl-alt-f7 and -f8 should be where they're hiding |
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| 19:29.41 | martianlobster | gravity: thansk |
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| 19:30.14 | akio | I suppose I could find something to output the difference and then pipe that somehow |
| 19:30.27 | martianlobster | gravity: that is so cool!!! how did you know that lol |
| 19:30.36 | akio | but it seems like this should be able to be done in rsync alone |
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| 19:31.48 | abrotman | thinks gravity used a secret code to access those keystrokes .. like 75047 |
| 19:31.52 | gravity | martianlobster: The X server binds itself to a virtual terminal, and the 7th is the default for the first. The next goes to the 8th. ctrl-alt-f# switches to terminal # from X, although if you're just at the command prompt out of X it's alt-f# |
| 19:32.05 | martianlobster | :) ty |
| 19:32.09 | gravity | abrotman: MY S3kr1t! |
| 19:32.37 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:34.26 | streuner_ | gravity: do you have a job now? |
| 19:35.00 | gravity | streuner_: I do indeed |
| 19:35.03 | gravity | I'm at it right now |
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| 19:35.18 | streuner_ | oh :-) |
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| 19:35.44 | streuner_ | !congratulate gravity |
| 19:35.45 | dpkg | Huzzah gravity, you did it! |
| 19:35.48 | gravity | heh, thanks |
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| 19:36.43 | abrotman | gravity: it's saturday! |
| 19:37.37 | gravity | abrotman: I know, but I have a deadline for next week that I have to meet |
| 19:37.46 | gravity | Although I think I'm pretty well finished for today |
| 19:37.47 | abrotman | gravity: i know the feeling |
| 19:37.55 | abrotman | !beer gravity |
| 19:37.55 | dpkg | pours a litre of Guinness for gravity |
| 19:37.59 | gravity | srsly |
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| 19:38.58 | Xires | backports? |
| 19:39.43 | dondelelcaro | gravity: ah... the joy of working on weekends. About to go into the lab myself, too. |
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| 19:40.04 | Xires | bot gone?? fajita or chalupa or whatever it's nick was |
| 19:40.19 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Yeah, it's our lot in life. I have a poster to give next week. |
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| 19:40.38 | gravity | Xires: /msg dpkg whatever_you_want |
| 19:40.38 | dondelelcaro | gravity: working on NIH challenge grant applications, here |
| 19:40.40 | abrotman | !tell Xires about backports |
| 19:40.51 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Heh, I've been hearing a lot of that lately. :-) |
| 19:40.55 | Xires | gravity, abrotman; tyvm |
| 19:40.56 | gravity | dondelelcaro: We have an NIH site visit |
| 19:41.32 | gravity | So I'm trying to decide if I should be writing more perl and R or if I should just be assembling figures |
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| 19:43.17 | reisio | thought I'd gotten my friend's Debian up to testing, but apt(itude) won't show the .29 kernel |
| 19:44.22 | capitol | hi, i'm having some trouble installing bugzilla on a system, and i think there is some old redirect rules from a previous bugzilla install through apt-get, where would those be located? |
| 19:44.51 | dondelelcaro | reisio: it's only in unstable |
| 19:45.04 | reisio | dondelelcaro: ah, so just add unstable in my sources.list? |
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| 19:45.14 | dondelelcaro | reisio: only if you want to run unstable |
| 19:45.26 | reisio | dondelelcaro: it's not that bad, is it? :p |
| 19:45.36 | reisio | he's not doing anything remotely mission critical, just a desktop |
| 19:45.43 | dondelelcaro | reisio: it can be... usually if you're asking though, best not to |
| 19:45.46 | abrotman | so why does he need a .29 kernel ? |
| 19:45.53 | reisio | dondelelcaro: yeah, hum |
| 19:45.57 | dondelelcaro | reisio: if there's a specific reason why you need the 29 kernel, you can just get the .deb, though. |
| 19:46.01 | reisio | dondelelcaro: no way to just let .29 in without going full unstable? |
| 19:46.09 | reisio | dondelelcaro: ah k |
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| 19:46.17 | reisio | dondelelcaro: I guess we'll do that, thanks |
| 19:46.22 | dondelelcaro | but if you don't actually need .29, no point in bothering |
| 19:46.33 | reisio | dondelelcaro: I could actually make do with .27, I think |
| 19:46.37 | reisio | but that's not available, either |
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| 19:46.43 | dondelelcaro | reisio: what's the issue? |
| 19:46.45 | streuner_ | reisio: so whats the reason why you need .29? |
| 19:46.56 | reisio | dondelelcaro: he has a fantsy pants new laptop that has hardware that needs .27 or greater |
| 19:47.27 | dondelelcaro | ah, ok; yeah, just get the .deb for .29 from packages.debian.org, and install it using dpkg -i. [If you build other modules, you'll also want the -headers .deb] |
| 19:47.30 | reisio | just been building it "manually" with make-kpkg, but I wouldn't mind a less manual way |
| 19:47.40 | reisio | dondelelcaro: cool, thanks |
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| 19:49.36 | reisio | dondelelcaro: linux-source-2.6.29_2.6.29-1_all.deb ? |
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| 19:50.06 | abrotman | if you want the source, or get the linux-image if you want just the binary package |
| 19:50.12 | streuner_ | dont use unstable! |
| 19:50.21 | reisio | streuner_: got to, I know the drill, though :p |
| 19:50.34 | streuner_ | no, you dont |
| 19:50.52 | reisio | I don't see a linux-image for 2.6.29 |
| 19:50.59 | reisio | streuner_: fancy new hardware, I'm afraid |
| 19:51.24 | streuner_ | what laptop? |
| 19:51.27 | reisio | meh, this make-kpkg will probably work |
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| 19:51.30 | abrotman | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.29-1-686 |
| 19:51.31 | judd | abrotman: linux-image-2.6.29-1-686 -- sid: 2.6.29-1 |
| 19:51.34 | reisio | streuner_: shmancy Asus |
| 19:51.52 | streuner_ | and what doesnt work in .2t |
| 19:51.57 | reisio | hum okay |
| 19:52.02 | reisio | why doesn't it show up here? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 19:52.09 | streuner_ | and what doesnt work in .26? |
| 19:52.09 | Imperfection | Mutual greeting exchange, my darker-skinned amigos. |
| 19:52.15 | Imperfection | Or rather... |
| 19:52.19 | Imperfection | WASSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUP NIGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS |
| 19:52.31 | reisio | streuner_: the CD drive |
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| 19:52.46 | streuner_ | reisio: hm, thats rather unusual then |
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| 19:52.53 | reisio | we actually already built .29 with make-kpkg, which is why it's working now |
| 19:52.55 | reisio | streuner_: yes :) |
| 19:52.58 | ikonia | Imperfection: stop that |
| 19:53.01 | streuner_ | it shouldnt an kernel issue then... |
| 19:53.02 | ikonia | Imperfection: thats 3 channels at least |
| 19:53.05 | Imperfection | I will L(. |
| 19:53.06 | reisio | but now we're rebuilding for nvidia :p and I wanted a simpler way for him |
| 19:53.07 | Imperfection | ;(* |
| 19:53.10 | Imperfection | 4. |
| 19:53.11 | Imperfection | I think |
| 19:53.12 | flower | what is that command which list the different partitions? |
| 19:53.14 | Imperfection | Something like that. |
| 19:53.16 | Imperfection | I'm just bored |
| 19:53.19 | reisio | streuner_: course it is |
| 19:53.19 | Imperfection | and tired |
| 19:53.20 | Imperfection | and sad |
| 19:53.24 | LjL | Imperfection: and an idiot |
| 19:53.29 | reisio | flower: df, mount, cat /etc/fstab |
| 19:53.31 | reisio | flower: fdisk -l |
| 19:53.41 | flower | reisio: thanks |
| 19:53.45 | reisio | one of those :p |
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| 19:53.58 | streuner_ | reisio: there is a debian-installer with newer kernels (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
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| 19:54.28 | reisio | we're already installed |
| 19:54.29 | streuner_ | but as we said already, its prolly not an kernel-issue |
| 19:54.34 | reisio | plus will no doubt have to do this in the future, too |
| 19:54.41 | reisio | streuner_: only you said that |
| 19:54.48 | reisio | why wouldn't it be a kernel issue? :p |
| 19:54.54 | reisio | didn't work with .26, does with .29 :p |
| 19:55.06 | streuner_ | How do you know? |
| 19:55.57 | reisio | as if that weren't evidence enough :p |
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| 19:57.58 | bluethundr | hey guys.. let's talk hosting providers. my company is looking for hosting and I am a debian guy. any good host providers out there that you've had good experiences with that work with debian? |
| 19:58.08 | reisio | serverbeach, I think |
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| 19:58.15 | reisio | my bro uses them |
| 19:58.29 | bluethundr | ah, good. they provide robust support for debian? |
| 19:58.38 | reisio | IIRC |
| 19:58.43 | abrotman | bluethundr: call them and ask them |
| 19:58.47 | reisio | even says on the front page, IIRC |
| 19:58.55 | bluethundr | ah sehr gut! |
| 19:59.24 | bluethundr | my company wants to work with rackspace.. and they will install debian. but won't support it to the level of red hat |
| 19:59.25 | reisio | oh there site's changed :p |
| 19:59.36 | reisio | bluethundr: course they won't :p Red Hat is commercial |
| 19:59.46 | reisio | bluethundr: you don't need support, you've got #debian :p |
| 19:59.47 | asg | bluethundr: if you are a debian guy, can't you just support it? |
| 19:59.48 | bluethundr | say they'll give it 'best effort' support vs 'fanatical' support |
| 19:59.51 | bluethundr | hahaha |
| 19:59.55 | bluethundr | indeed, sir |
| 19:59.57 | reisio | p'shaw |
| 20:00.18 | bluethundr | well I can, thing is I'm sort of freshly minted with much to learn |
| 20:00.35 | bluethundr | came over from gentoo where I was supoprting it for an italian web company |
| 20:00.37 | reisio | huh |
| 20:00.43 | reisio | ServerBeach hosted YouTube, apparently |
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| 20:00.57 | bluethundr | really? rackspace claims to have that honor! |
| 20:01.10 | bluethundr | wonder if the sales guy was bullcrapping me |
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| 20:01.24 | reisio | I s'pose it's possible serverbeach uses rackspace |
| 20:01.26 | reisio | shrugs |
| 20:02.00 | reisio | lot of reselling in the hosting world |
| 20:02.07 | bluethundr | heh.. if serverbeach served youtube, that must mean that they partner with some big cdn's which is important due to the fact that my company wants to stream video |
| 20:02.25 | reisio | dunno, youtube wasn't always big :p |
| 20:02.39 | reisio | just watching this silly video on serverbeach.com |
| 20:02.48 | reisio | apparently dating from when Google bought youtube |
| 20:02.49 | bluethundr | true, but I'll be sure to investigate. thanks! |
| 20:02.54 | reisio | obviously Google has their own hosting ideas |
| 20:03.05 | reisio | anyways, IIRC serverbeach does Debian :p |
| 20:03.14 | bluethundr | rockin'! |
| 20:03.55 | reisio | or maybe not anymore, hum |
| 20:04.03 | bluethundr | I did find another company called bodhost on the debian site that I've been dealing with a little bit. they struck me as a possibility too. anybody ever hear of them? |
| 20:04.04 | reisio | they have a redhat logo at the bottom but no debian logo the nerve! |
| 20:04.36 | bluethundr | harumphs at serverbeach's insolence! |
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| 20:06.22 | reisio | http://debian.org/partners/ |
| 20:06.49 | jpinx | reisio: my experience of that page is that it's way out of date |
| 20:06.54 | reisio | maybe it was some other ocean theme host :p |
| 20:07.05 | reisio | jpinx: wouldn't surprise me :p |
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| 20:07.23 | jpinx | what are you looking for? |
| 20:07.39 | reisio | wtf 'The requested URL /accounts/ServiceLogin... is too large to process. ' :p |
| 20:07.42 | reisio | gj Google |
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| 20:13.45 | martianlobster | If I am entering text for stdin, into some program, for example bzip2, and I want to specify end of file, what do I do? ctrl-d does nothing. ctrl-z puts the job into background |
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| 20:15.55 | dondelelcaro | martianlobster: ctrl-d sends EOF |
| 20:16.11 | dondelelcaro | martianlobster: whether that stops everything depends on what it is that you're doing |
| 20:17.00 | martianlobster | dondelelcaro: I figured it out through trial and error. ctrl-d twice, in rapid succession |
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| 20:17.26 | dondelelcaro | you should only need one ctrl-d, unless you're doing something really odd |
| 20:17.42 | dondelelcaro | (run cat, for example) |
| 20:17.48 | martianlobster | perhaps my keyboard is fooed |
| 20:17.50 | martianlobster | lol |
| 20:18.03 | martianlobster | I was doing, "bzip2 > hello.bz2" |
| 20:18.10 | martianlobster | then typing text |
| 20:18.15 | dondelelcaro | that only takes a single C-d |
| 20:18.34 | martianlobster | <------ probably needs a new laptop |
| 20:18.45 | dondelelcaro | yeah; could be |
| 20:19.24 | martianlobster | I found a bunch of small ants in the keyboard this morning, tried to clean everything out with compressed air |
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| 20:21.23 | jpinx | martianlobster: you should suck, not blow |
| 20:21.40 | demontager | how to check iptables configs? |
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| 20:22.21 | extreme | hello guys my host OS is debian and running VMware on it, and installed windows XP as guest. im getting very slow upload speed. how to fix it? |
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| 20:23.14 | dondelelcaro | extreme: best to try asking #vmware; assuming you get reasonable speed uploading directly from Debian, it's almost certainly not something we can assist you with |
| 20:23.15 | owen1 | i installed a game (with make install command). how to uninstall it? |
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| 20:23.49 | xxtjaxx | Would some body please be so kind and review my code ? i would like to see some comment on it http://code.google.com/p/snipporama/source/browse/trunk/shell_scripts/mkproj |
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| 20:24.39 | extreme | ok |
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| 20:29.27 | zophy | what is the cdrom device ? |
| 20:29.44 | zophy | /dev/hdc isn't working |
| 20:29.52 | zophy | is it scsi ? |
| 20:30.11 | xxtjaxx | /dev/cdrom or cdrom0 |
| 20:30.11 | xxtjaxx | nope |
| 20:30.37 | asg | owen1: generally, make uninstall |
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| 20:30.57 | asg | demontager: iptables -vL |
| 20:32.23 | demontager | thanks, but also i have problem with ping my linux comp can't ping local network if i issue ping 192.168.0.2 - receive permission denied , why it is blocked, and how to fix? |
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| 20:32.47 | asg | demontager: is ping suid root? |
| 20:33.03 | zophy | xxtjaxx, those would be mount points, i need the device name |
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| 20:33.26 | demontager | where is ping located? I'll check |
| 20:33.44 | owen1 | asg: thanks, i'll try it |
| 20:33.50 | asg | demontager: /bin/ping |
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| 20:34.59 | mandric | when i run aptitude upgrade mysql-server it doesn't tell me what version it plans to upgrade to. Is there a way to see the target upgrade version? |
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| 20:35.17 | asg | mandric: apt-cache policy mysql-server |
| 20:35.24 | mandric | asg: k |
| 20:35.27 | xxtjaxx | zophy what do u wanna do with these anyway? |
| 20:35.42 | dondelelcaro | mandric: or aptitude show -F '%p %v %V' mysql-server; for example |
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| 20:35.58 | dondelelcaro | s/show/search/ |
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| 20:36.25 | mandric | asg: hrm i see Installed: 5.0.32-7etch1 and Candidate: 5.0.32-7etch8 |
| 20:36.31 | demontager | -rwsr-xr-x it is for ping |
| 20:36.32 | mandric | does this mean the target is ...-etch8 |
| 20:36.55 | asg | mandric: then it will update to the newest fix release of the same version: 5.0.32-7 |
| 20:36.57 | mandric | so where do i found out if it has the patch i need....? |
| 20:37.07 | demontager | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33168 2007-12-10 21:03 ping |
| 20:37.15 | asg | mandric: zless /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 20:37.17 | mandric | the patch i need is in 5.0.48 ... |
| 20:37.37 | mandric | ugh |
| 20:37.48 | asg | demontager: that's suid root. The other option is iptables blocking outbound icmp echo requests. |
| 20:38.19 | demontager | asg: How can i see what blocking it& |
| 20:38.20 | demontager | ? |
| 20:38.21 | asg | mandric: if it is a security patch, it will likely have been backported. Otherwise, it may or may not have been included. |
| 20:38.40 | mandric | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.43 | asg | demontager: iptables -vL (does that show anything related to icmp echo?) |
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| 20:38.53 | mandric | i want to run my tmpfs in memcache |
| 20:39.04 | DeSian | as root can i login and create new DB, but if try to stop or restart mysql receive this error. |
| 20:39.16 | DeSian | http://paste.debian.net/32416/plain/32416 |
| 20:39.45 | peppe | an iptables block on icmp echo requests shouldn't issue "permission denied" errors |
| 20:39.45 | mandric | here's the output from apt-cache policy ... http://dpaste.com/23965/ |
| 20:39.46 | demontager | asg: do i have to isue iptables -vL as root? |
| 20:40.05 | mandric | looks like i could use the backport ... |
| 20:40.06 | demontager | asg: it shows permission denied |
| 20:40.15 | peppe | demontager: yes, as root |
| 20:40.23 | asg | demontager: run it as root. |
| 20:40.36 | asg | demontager: also, does ping work as root? |
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| 20:41.40 | demontager | asg: it works only when i pinging internet adress |
| 20:41.40 | joshudson | I tried an interesting experiment, |
| 20:41.57 | demontager | asg: as root also shows permission denied |
| 20:42.25 | joshudson | resolving the true dependencies of apt (not the stated dependencies) came to 25 mb of archives (68 mb extracted). |
| 20:42.46 | mandric | so if i want to move from etch to the next distro, what do i do? |
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| 20:43.10 | demontager | asg: iptables -vL shows nothing |
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| 20:43.42 | mandric | demontager: well then you don't have any rules |
| 20:44.06 | demontager | mandric: so why ping blocked? |
| 20:44.28 | mandric | ? |
| 20:44.32 | peppe | demontager: what's exactly telling you "permission denied"? sendto? do you have selinux? |
| 20:44.36 | mandric | but iptables is doing nothing |
| 20:45.43 | joshudson | ?!? ping saying permission denied cannot be iptables |
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| 20:45.55 | joshudson | maybe it can't get SOCK_RAW on lo, which would be very odd |
| 20:46.44 | peppe | joshudson: maybe lo is down? :) |
| 20:47.06 | joshudson | maybe |
| 20:47.17 | demontager | mandric: yes, now is working ping |
| 20:47.18 | joshudson | ifconfig eth0 lo 127.0.0.1 up should fix it |
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| 20:47.59 | peppe | maybe without "eth0" :-P |
| 20:48.05 | demontager | before not, it was mess with firestarter , i was sharring internet through pppoe |
| 20:49.59 | mandric | so if i want to move from etch to the next distro, what do i do? etch seems outdated. |
| 20:50.19 | demontager | but now i have problem with connecting to router |
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| 20:52.21 | demontager | how could i share internet connection via pppoe to eth0 network? |
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| 20:58.07 | joshudson | did anybody ever make the mistake of cp somefile /dev/hda1 or the like? |
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| 21:06.08 | martianlobster | when I type echo $DISPLAY I get :0:0 What does the second 0 signify? |
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| 21:08.11 | joshudson | scureen 0? |
| 21:08.18 | EugenMayer | is there a PAR::Packer perl module for perl? |
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| 21:10.08 | martianlobster | joshudson: what does screen refer to? is this a physical screen? so that if I had two monitors, I could would have $DISPLAY :0.0 on the first monitor, and :0.1 on the second monitor? |
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| 21:11.52 | joshudson | I don't actually know |
| 21:12.07 | martianlobster | k |
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| 21:13.18 | joshudson | what's up with debian ash |
| 21:13.26 | joshudson | it seems to be a shell, but won't give me a prompt |
| 21:13.40 | Ash-Fox | Works fine here. |
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| 21:16.41 | nsadmin | joshudson perhaps it has a man page? |
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| 21:18.31 | cMistress | hi - i have a problem where whatever bootload i use (lilo or grub) can't identify my partitions with an "unknown device" error -- i think this is UUID-related -- but the odd thing is, out of the three stock kernels installed, only one works, yet all of the stock kernels are told to use the same UUID. This is on Debian Lenny, currently with grub as the bootloader |
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| 21:23.05 | frog_ | aptitude search shows : c cnijfilter-mp630series . how can i install it? |
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| 21:25.28 | hallowname | i need to alphabetize about a billion xml nodes for my plasmoid. ive heard grep and sort can do it. but i cant see how. tips? ideas? |
| 21:26.01 | abrotman | just the nodes ? |
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| 21:26.24 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: that's a rather massive number of nodes |
| 21:27.06 | hallowname | dondelelcaro: it is. its aiml data. in reality its only about 1.5 million nodes. exaggeration. point is its not fun to do by hand. |
| 21:27.30 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: oh, ok. a million nodes can be held in memory (if you have enough); a billion, not so easily. |
| 21:27.34 | hallowname | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/openbrain/openbrain_configuration/aiml/Justice/ <- aiml/xml data all clumped into one file... |
| 21:27.38 | nsadmin | hallowname: grep (and the underlying regular expressions) do a poor job at dealing with xml, which has structure that are not parsable using regular expressions |
| 21:28.06 | hallowname | nsadmin: yea i wasn't even gonna try it that way, lol, a developer suggested it once. |
| 21:28.24 | hallowname | im writing a qtxml app to sort it out now, but any other simpler (faster) way would be sweet |
| 21:28.55 | nsadmin | you might have to use a database with a LOT of storage, maybe on the order of half - 2 tb |
| 21:29.27 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: there's not that much stuff there, and it looks to be sorted already |
| 21:29.49 | hallowname | dondelelcaro: all the data is clumped in Uncategorized because i havent sorted that yet :) |
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| 21:30.58 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: well, you could actually sort that using sort if you ditched all the extraneous newlines |
| 21:31.04 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: you could also do it using perl, if you wanted to |
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| 21:31.45 | nsadmin | once it's in a db (such as postgres) you can call out say 10s or 50s of records (say, enough for a page) at a time |
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| 21:32.16 | hallowname | dondelelcaro: if you say so, lol. c++ is gonna have to do it for now i guess... i cant grok perl or sort just for this task... ill be done coding the cpp app by then, ;p |
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| 21:32.21 | demontager | why firestarter blocks connetions from internal network if internet connection sharring enabled? |
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| 21:33.53 | Supertanker | Hi. How do I manually install grub to look for the grub/ files on another partition, say if I have a seperate /boot on hd0,2? |
| 21:34.14 | Supertanker | It dumps me to a blank shell right now. It works--I can boot with it--but that's not very convenicent for a server |
| 21:34.48 | nsadmin | what drive is it booting from? |
| 21:35.12 | nsadmin | not hd0? |
| 21:35.12 | Supertanker | Right now I'm just worried about one; it's booting from hd0; apparently Grub is in the MBR |
| 21:35.16 | Supertanker | No, it's HD0 |
| 21:35.20 | martianlobster | if I write my own daemon, and want to add it via update-rc, is there a tutorial somewhere which will tell me how to do this? |
| 21:35.24 | Supertanker | But /boot/grub is on hd0,2 |
| 21:35.36 | Supertanker | Well, to be more specific, hd0,2 is my boot partition. |
| 21:35.40 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: something insane like local $/; my $file = <>; @categories = $file =~ m{(<category>.+?</category>)}mg; @categories = map { my ($pattern) = $_ =~ m{<pattern>[\s\n]*(.+?)[\s\n]*</pattern>}mg; [$_,$pattern]; } @categories; print map {$_->[0]} sort {$a->[1] cmp $b->[1]} @categories; would do it |
| 21:35.55 | Supertanker | I can boot it easilly by typing in the right commands but I'd like to have it do it by itself, you know. |
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| 21:36.19 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: and in reaality, you're talking about no more than 50k un-sorted thoughts... |
| 21:36.33 | Supertanker | (I can boot it by going: "root (hd0,2), kernel /blahblah root=LABEL=hd0,0'slable, initrd blahblah, boot" |
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| 21:36.46 | nsadmin | do you want an answer now? or do you want to understand it for when you make a change in your disks? |
| 21:37.11 | nsadmin | these two might be mutually exclusive; not sure |
| 21:37.12 | Supertanker | nsadmin an answer now would be appreciated |
| 21:37.31 | Supertanker | I can easilly get to a root shell on hd0, since it boots fine |
| 21:37.40 | Supertanker | I just have to type in all the instructions by hand. |
| 21:37.55 | nsadmin | do you know whether it's chainloading stage2 from sector 1? |
| 21:38.06 | Supertanker | ...eh...I have no idea |
| 21:38.13 | Supertanker | The instructions I use to boot is right up there |
| 21:38.20 | nsadmin | ok, let's find out if that space is there... |
| 21:38.34 | hallowname | dondelelcaro: ??? gosh. thats completely foreign to me and ive been unix-side for 7 years. 50k? lol 1.5 mil. 1.7 now mebbe. |
| 21:38.36 | Supertanker | Here's what it does: When I start the computer it goes right to a grub terminal; it doesn't find the menu.lst on hd0,2 or anything |
| 21:39.00 | Supertanker | By typing in the commands up there, I get it to boot easilly: I just use hd0,2 as root and then specify the kernel with the argument hd0,0 being root, and then boot |
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| 21:39.06 | nsadmin | could you run fdisk on the drive, (one sec...) |
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| 21:39.20 | Supertanker | nsadmin, my partition tables look like this: |
| 21:39.55 | Supertanker | /dev/hda1 is /, /dev/hda2 is /var, /dev/hda3 is /boot, dev/hda4 is the extended container, /dev/hda5 is swap, /dev/hda6 is /home |
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| 21:40.19 | Supertanker | So I'm using /dev/hda3 as root and then telling the kernel to continue loading from /dev/hda1, where all my /etc/fstab stuff is at. |
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| 21:40.41 | nsadmin | ok but what I need are the numbers printed when you print the partition table in eXpert mode |
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| 21:40.44 | Supertanker | The problem seems to be that grub's files are on /dev/hda3, and grub doesn't seem to be able to find them--it just goes right to a terminal. |
| 21:40.51 | Supertanker | Eh one moment |
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| 21:41.04 | nsadmin | and could you please pastbin that |
| 21:41.10 | nsadmin | back in a sec |
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| 21:41.35 | Supertanker | Well right now I have no GUI |
| 21:41.37 | Supertanker | So not really |
| 21:42.10 | demontager | #mandriva |
| 21:42.16 | dondelelcaro | hallowname: you may have more, but not as ofr 949305 of UncategorizedThoughts.aiml |
| 21:42.18 | aryah_ | supertanker, cant you do in in elinks or some similar text browser? |
| 21:43.04 | Supertanker | aryah_, Eh, kinda, but I'd have to type it by hand |
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| 21:43.31 | dondelelcaro | Supertanker: there are quite a few command line clients for the common paste bin sites |
| 21:43.57 | aryah_ | hm, i thought copy-paste works w gpm console mouse |
| 21:44.00 | TaG^ | I am install debian on the SD .. so where do I install the grub on? /dev/sdc5? |
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| 21:44.46 | twadl | my MBR got messed up somehow..im trying to reinstall lilo through a livecd |
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| 21:45.05 | twadl | through dmesg |tail i get "XFS: SD validate failed" |
| 21:45.10 | twadl | any ideas? |
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| 21:45.55 | Supertanker | Nevermind, nsadmin, I got it working |
| 21:45.57 | Supertanker | Thanks though! |
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| 21:47.19 | nsadmin | Supertanker: oh cool! what did you do? |
| 21:48.01 | Supertanker | nsadmin, I booted using the commands above (toa root shell), started grub inside Linux, did root (hd0,2) and did setup (hd0) |
| 21:48.19 | Supertanker | Then I went back and fixed my menu.lst because I forgot that I don't need /boot in front of my kernel without a /boot dir :P |
| 21:48.25 | Supertanker | So now I'm testing again |
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| 21:48.51 | Supertanker | This was a fun experiment: I manually copied an intact Debian OS onto this hard drive and partitioned it myself |
| 21:48.52 | twadl | helllppp |
| 21:48.59 | jdu | has anyone use nilfs with debian |
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| 21:49.54 | nsadmin | Supertanker: that probably copied stage2 to the sectors between the mbr and the start of the first partition |
| 21:50.06 | Supertanker | nsadmin, yeah |
| 21:50.09 | Supertanker | Either way, that worked out nicely |
| 21:50.13 | nsadmin | what I was trying to do was make sure you had that room |
| 21:50.30 | Supertanker | Ah |
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| 21:50.56 | nsadmin | that expert mode partition table printout should show you where the first partition starts |
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| 21:51.10 | Supertanker | Yeah |
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| 21:51.25 | pwnedulongtime | anyone remember the dpkg command that lists packages with missing files? |
| 21:51.26 | wonderwal | why does grep on debian seem to behave diffrently to grep on gentoo? |
| 21:51.45 | Supertanker | wonderwal, because Gentoo has to compile the results |
| 21:51.47 | patrikf | wonderwal: what in particular? |
| 21:51.48 | Supertanker | Just kidding ,I don't know |
| 21:52.16 | nsadmin | wonderwal: grep --version on both, compare |
| 21:52.20 | wonderwal | my bad |
| 21:52.33 | pwnedulongtime | anyone? |
| 21:53.01 | nsadmin | pwnedulongtime: not sure... does dpkg --help actually help? |
| 21:53.02 | abrotman | debsums ? |
| 21:53.11 | osfd | Hi, how i called the thing that tell the server which browser you use ..? |
| 21:53.21 | abrotman | osfd: update-alternatives |
| 21:53.33 | osfd | abrotman: no |
| 21:53.55 | nsadmin | the browser communicates which browser to the server in the request headers |
| 21:54.47 | pwnedulongtime | nsadmin: nope...but there is definitely a way to do this...I used it before a few years ago |
| 21:54.55 | osfd | nsadmin: yeah but on firefox you can tweak this information and make the server think you're using, for say, internet explorer |
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| 21:55.01 | pwnedulongtime | wish command-line fu was around then |
| 21:55.20 | twadl | stupid cocksuckers |
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| 21:55.36 | osfd | sorry ? |
| 21:55.44 | hallowname | anyone here ever compiled qtscriptgenerator (for amarok trunk)? im getting include fails and the patch doesnt work either =/ |
| 21:55.58 | osfd | and yes, I can't install a firefox addons on icewasel...a way to override that ? |
| 21:55.59 | dmi3on | do i need for IRC server DNS server to install with debian ? |
| 21:56.24 | abrotman | osfd: oh .. your user-agent |
| 21:56.45 | osfd | abrotman: yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss.....!!!! |
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| 21:57.06 | pwnedulongtime | twadl: /join #cocksuckers |
| 21:57.10 | abrotman | stop |
| 21:58.47 | osfd | abrotman: and you know about this addons I can't install on iceweasel |
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| 21:59.25 | p0g0 | osfd: I have firefox addons and plugins working with iceweasel, I don't recall having _any_ issues-no tweakage required here. |
| 21:59.36 | abrotman | !tell osfd about iceweasel user-agent |
| 21:59.37 | p0g0 | osfd: which addon? |
| 21:59.43 | osfd | p0g0: gears |
| 21:59.59 | p0g0 | osfd: dunno, never used it. |
| 22:00.28 | osfd | abrotman: thanx man |
| 22:00.28 | twadl | what in fuck's name is "xfs bad magic number" ;/ |
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| 22:00.52 | osfd | how rude is the channel tonight... |
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| 22:00.58 | abrotman | or just one person |
| 22:01.03 | dondelelcaro | twadl: it means that it doesn't look like there is an XFS filesystem there |
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| 22:01.25 | twadl | dondelelcaro: well there definitely is one there.. |
| 22:01.38 | asg | twadl: a simple google search for that error would have provided plenty of information |
| 22:01.40 | dondelelcaro | twadl: most filesystems have a magick number that tells mount (or similar) what filesystem it is, and if it's missing, it generally won't be mounted |
| 22:01.41 | twadl | i installed a new kernel..then when i rebooted, it wouldn't load |
| 22:01.47 | twadl | asg: really?! thanks for that information! |
| 22:01.51 | twadl | oh, i forgot..i already tried that |
| 22:01.55 | twadl | there isn't as much there as you'd think |
| 22:02.04 | abrotman | there's also a #xfs |
| 22:02.09 | twadl | ok |
| 22:02.21 | twadl | dondelelcaro: so how do i restore it? |
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| 22:02.33 | asg | 9600+ hits seems enough to get an idea of what it means |
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| 22:02.39 | sentharn | Hi, are there any good guides for using two network cards in one computer? |
| 22:02.53 | twadl | asg: read them..half of them are forums with no replies. |
| 22:02.58 | dondelelcaro | twadl: if you know that the filesystem was good previously, then it's possible that you don't have XFS support, or it's the wrong version, or similar. |
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| 22:03.07 | dondelelcaro | twadl: otherwise, it usually means that the filesystem is hosed. |
| 22:03.11 | twadl | dondelelcaro: solution? |
| 22:03.14 | p0g0 | osfd: is that a 64 bit system you are using? |
| 22:03.39 | osfd | p0g0: problem is fixed, I change the value of userAgent |
| 22:03.51 | dondelelcaro | twadl: since all you changed is the kernel, boot off of the old one for starters. |
| 22:04.01 | twadl | and then? |
| 22:04.05 | p0g0 | osfd: cool. |
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| 22:04.25 | osfd | p0g0: yesss, thanx anyway... |
| 22:04.42 | dondelelcaro | twadl: assuming that works, your problem is either 1) don't have XFS support 2) filesystem device has changed; what you're trying to mount isn't XFS 3) wrong xfs version, or similar 4) ... |
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| 22:05.26 | dondelelcaro | the full error message and precisely where you see the error message would tell us more, of course |
| 22:05.58 | _coredump_ | hi, what kernel-version does squeeze use? |
| 22:06.09 | _coredump_ | .27 or .28? |
| 22:06.40 | twadl | dondelelcaro: i try to load grub, i get "error 17" |
| 22:06.41 | dondelelcaro | _coredump_: .26 now, but it'll be updated to .29 once .29 goes into testing |
| 22:06.58 | _coredump_ | thats lame |
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| 22:07.18 | twadl | dondelelcaro: before that, i had lilo installed...and all it would do is "Lilo 28.x Loading linux............(a lot of dots) then it hung after about three lines of dots" |
| 22:07.21 | _coredump_ | my nic is only support in .27 or newer |
| 22:07.32 | brian17 | how do i upgrade from lenny to testing? |
| 22:07.36 | dondelelcaro | _coredump_: so install .29 from unstable |
| 22:07.43 | dondelelcaro | !tell brian17 -about lenny->testing |
| 22:07.53 | brian17 | nothing happened |
| 22:08.04 | dondelelcaro | !tell brian17 -about lenny->squeeze |
| 22:08.19 | _coredump_ | dondelelcaro, nope i will use archlinux instead, till squeeze comes up with an newer kernel. |
| 22:08.23 | sepult | !tell tell tell |
| 22:08.37 | dondelelcaro | _coredump_: *shrug*; use whatever you want |
| 22:08.43 | sepult | whooo shot dpkgeeee *sing* |
| 22:08.44 | _coredump_ | indeed |
| 22:08.57 | sepult | lol |
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| 22:09.40 | sepult | target invalid |
| 22:09.43 | streuner_ | _coredump_: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 22:09.44 | sepult | ewww |
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| 22:10.50 | brian17 | is having only 4 lines of sources bad? |
| 22:10.58 | asg | no |
| 22:11.07 | enouf | not at all |
| 22:11.12 | jdu | anyone use nilfs? |
| 22:11.25 | sentharn | I just put two NIC cards in my server. One of them, an old Kingstone PCI card, is detected with lspci but whenever I try to activate the eth device attached to it I get a bunch of "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device" and "eth0: ERROR while getting device flags: No such device" |
| 22:11.25 | sentharn | Any ideas? |
| 22:11.30 | asg | brian17: as long as they are the right ones, of course |
| 22:11.37 | sepult | is ocfs2 thought for robocop ? |
| 22:11.44 | sepult | lol |
| 22:12.27 | brian17 | is it possible that updating to squeeze or sid will fix my audio problems? |
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| 22:13.33 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: that means that the driver for the card hasn't been loaded, or similar. |
| 22:13.37 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: what does lspci output? |
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| 22:14.25 | sentharn | lspci reports two NIC controlers and two different modules, dondelelcaro |
| 22:14.30 | sentharn | Should I try loading them manually with modprobe? |
| 22:14.33 | xcdfgkjhgcv | valdyn: Is there anything other than /home and swap that I would want to encrypt? |
| 22:14.48 | asg | xcdfgkjhgcv: /tmp |
| 22:14.54 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: the output is what I want to see |
| 22:14.54 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: the troublesome one uses the tulip driver |
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| 22:15.02 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: one moment |
| 22:15.02 | asg | xcdfgkjhgcv: and probably /var/tmp as well. |
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| 22:15.30 | xcdfgkjhgcv | asg: I'll encrypt the whole of /var |
| 22:15.46 | asg | xcdfgkjhgcv: probably better to encrypt the whole lot since most of everything is will be modified rarely. |
| 22:16.07 | xcdfgkjhgcv | asg: I have two drives though, |
| 22:16.20 | xcdfgkjhgcv | I CBA to enter 2 keys every time I boot my laptop. |
| 22:16.35 | brian17 | is kde4 going to be in squeeze ever? |
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| 22:16.44 | xcdfgkjhgcv | And the drive I'll be encrypting on is only 4GB |
| 22:16.56 | streuner_ | brian17: /msg dpkg kde4 |
| 22:16.57 | asg | xcdfgkjhgcv: you could have the key for the external on the internal so once you decrypt the partition it is on, the other will mount without a passphrase. That's one way to do it. |
| 22:17.00 | xcdfgkjhgcv | asg: So encrypting /home swap and /var will be nice and secure, yeah? |
| 22:17.07 | nsadmin | brian17 that would be asking for a prediction if it's not there already |
| 22:17.16 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m7e4f39a0 |
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| 22:17.21 | asg | xcdfgkjhgcv: should be, what other partitions do you have besides those? |
| 22:17.36 | sentharn | The first one has the problem, dondelelcaro |
| 22:17.42 | xcdfgkjhgcv | asg: I'm planning for my new drive once it arrives. |
| 22:17.52 | jdu | where should I ask about using obscure filesystems with debian? |
| 22:18.04 | xcdfgkjhgcv | asg: I will have a 4GB SSD with a fast write speed and a 64GB SSD with a slow write speed. |
| 22:18.05 | asg | jdu: here, we'll point you elsewhere if need be |
| 22:18.31 | xcdfgkjhgcv | asg: I don't want to do that automount key thingy without a nice simple guide because it sounds really daunting. |
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| 22:18.59 | jdu | asg, thanks. I am interested in using nilfs but it may be no one here has used it. |
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| 22:19.49 | asg | xcdfgkjhgcv: there should be a few simple guides out there. iirc, debian-administration.org has a few articles that cover such situations. |
| 22:20.03 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: any ideas? |
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| 22:20.31 | brian17 | so there is a way to get kde4 on lenny but not squeeze .... |
| 22:20.56 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: is there any useful output in dmesg or the ip link; output? |
| 22:21.16 | streuner_ | brian17: /msg dpkg kde4 |
| 22:21.33 | brian17 | i did |
| 22:21.47 | streuner_ | dpkg kde4 |
| 22:21.47 | dpkg | kde4 is a the lastest version of the KDE desktop. It was not released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4.1 are available from http://kde4.debian.net/ KDE 4.2 should start to appear in unstable soon, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2009/03/msg00072.html <Experimental> packages are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde, not #debian. See <kde version>. |
| 22:22.06 | asg | jdu: looks like they have a pretty active mailing list (https://www.nilfs.org/pipermail/users/) might be worth asking there if nobody here can help. |
| 22:22.20 | jdu | asg, thanks! |
| 22:22.22 | streuner_ | brian17: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html |
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| 22:22.55 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: lemme look in a minute |
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| 22:23.06 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: it looks like the Tuplip driver is loaded fine |
| 22:23.09 | sentharn | Lemme do a nother grep |
| 22:23.31 | brian17 | there are packages for sid and lenny but no squeeze |
| 22:23.32 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: try running modprobe -r tulip; modprobe tulip tulip_debug=6; ip link; and see what is going on there. |
| 22:23.39 | sentharn | Okay |
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| 22:24.02 | dondelelcaro | brian17: it has yet to transition to squeeze. |
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| 22:24.12 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: 5: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000 |
| 22:24.13 | sentharn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.25 | sentharn | ifup produces lines of "Device not foudn" or whatever it is. |
| 22:24.34 | sentharn | No such device* |
| 22:24.47 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: and ip link set eth0 up; fails too, I assume? |
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| 22:25.02 | sentharn | Lemme look |
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| 22:25.08 | martianlobster | when I do "shutdown -r now" I see a message "Broadcast message from root@myserver" "The system is going down for a reboot NOW!" How does this work? Does the shutdown command send sigterm to all process id's in the process table? Or does it send some other signal? What is a "Broadcast message"? |
| 22:25.17 | brian17 | how stable is sid? |
| 22:25.19 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: yeah. "Cannot find device eth0" |
| 22:25.30 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: does that produce any dmesg output? |
| 22:25.34 | streuner_ | brian17: unstable |
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| 22:26.06 | streuner_ | brian17: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 22:26.19 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: not much, hang on for pastebin |
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| 22:26.46 | neuro_damage | how do I install openarena on my debian box? |
| 22:27.05 | enouf | martianlobster: sounds 'write' or 'wall' or 'motd' related ... how exactly the shutdown command works, i can't say offhand |
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| 22:27.08 | Kuifje111 | hello |
| 22:27.12 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m4ce6b71 |
| 22:27.21 | Kuifje111 | hello |
| 22:27.28 | streuner_ | judd versions openarena |
| 22:27.28 | Kuifje111 | how to unmount an external hdd? |
| 22:27.31 | judd | streuner_: openarena -- etch-backports: 0.7.6-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.7.7+dfsg1-1 sid: 0.8.1-3 squeeze: 0.8.1-3 |
| 22:27.45 | martianlobster | enouf: thanks |
| 22:27.52 | enouf | man umount Kuifje111 and man eject |
| 22:28.01 | Kuifje111 | oh damn |
| 22:28.09 | Kuifje111 | i tried unmount |
| 22:28.23 | Kuifje111 | instead of umount |
| 22:28.26 | enouf | yes, only one of each letter allowed per command :-P |
| 22:28.29 | streuner_ | neuro_damage: look what judd told you |
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| 22:28.47 | Kuifje111 | thanks |
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| 22:29.58 | for3st | hello , may i ask a question? :) |
| 22:30.05 | JPT | just ask :) |
| 22:30.27 | for3st | does debian etch have a deadline to support |
| 22:30.40 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: is there a tulip0 interface? what happens when you modprobe -r tulip; modprobe tulip tulip_debug=6; or similar? (dmesg is probably most useful) |
| 22:30.49 | dondelelcaro | for3st: it will, yes. |
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| 22:30.56 | for3st | when is that? |
| 22:31.16 | Kuifje111 | just update to lenny |
| 22:31.23 | dondelelcaro | for3st: it hasn't been officially announced, but generally it's around a year after the release of the new stable release (so probably feb of 2010) |
| 22:31.26 | Kuifje111 | it's not such a big fuss |
| 22:31.31 | for3st | if the system can't afford the newer kernel... i cant updte |
| 22:31.32 | enouf | for3st: IINM, for about a year after Lenny's release |
| 22:31.55 | enouf | kernels cost too much nowadays? |
| 22:31.57 | Kuifje111 | why wouldnt it? |
| 22:32.15 | for3st | it is about a ispconfig server |
| 22:32.15 | dondelelcaro | for3st: sometimes it's supported longer, though you really should strongly consider upgrading (or at least, formulating a plan to upgrade your systems) |
| 22:32.28 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: lemme see |
| 22:32.36 | for3st | i ve tried.. booting lenny kernel crashes the system.. |
| 22:32.44 | Kuifje111 | i am running the newest stable kernel at a 700MHz PC |
| 22:32.45 | neuro_damage | judd: what does all that mean? |
| 22:32.46 | judd | neuro_damage: Error: "what" is not a valid command. |
| 22:32.57 | neuro_damage | streuner_: what does that mean? |
| 22:33.06 | enouf | for3st: and the etch-backports .26 one doesn't? |
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| 22:33.14 | for3st | on live cd it works , but installed it crashes the system on Booting the kernel |
| 22:33.19 | abrotman | neuro_damage: which versoin of debian are you using? |
| 22:33.21 | streuner_ | neuro_damage: different versions of different branches of Debian? |
| 22:33.39 | Kuifje111 | for3st, what error does occur? |
| 22:33.41 | streuner_ | s/versoin/versions/ |
| 22:33.42 | for3st | the etch works correctly with ispconfig |
| 22:33.50 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/m2d75a3eb again |
| 22:33.58 | enouf | doesn't know what ispconfig is |
| 22:34.00 | for3st | i think some modules on the kernel conflict with the hardware , |
| 22:34.12 | streuner_ | enouf: guess :-) |
| 22:34.18 | for3st | it is just a intel 3.02 Ghz with 512 of ram |
| 22:34.29 | Kuifje111 | should be more than enough |
| 22:34.30 | enouf | streuner_: heh .. nah .. too much brainfarting :-P |
| 22:34.40 | Kuifje111 | maybe compile a newer kernel? |
| 22:35.17 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: I think I read somewhere that the physical position of the cards can pose a problem. Should I shut off the server in a minute and move them around? |
| 22:35.25 | for3st | you mean an older one... newer kernels conflict on debian or even ubuntu (ubuntu doesnt even boot) |
| 22:35.29 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: it's possible; it shouldn't, but... |
| 22:35.41 | neuro_damage | abrotman: lenny |
| 22:36.06 | brian17 | if during a distro update my terminal hangs at 99% [Working] is that a cause for concern? |
| 22:36.21 | abrotman | neuro_damage: so aptitude install openarena |
| 22:39.44 | streuner_ | the good old dselect, some people like it, some people hate it :-) |
| 22:40.44 | streuner_ | neuro_damage: there are some graphical frontends |
| 22:40.46 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: I think I solved the problem. Let me reboot and see. |
| 22:41.07 | streuner_ | neuro_damage: in order to install, remove packages |
| 22:41.32 | streuner_ | used kpackage, it wasnt that bad |
| 22:42.45 | brian17 | i think my dist-upgrade failed |
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| 22:43.07 | brian17 | it isn't progressing from 99% [Working] |
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| 22:43.12 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: fixed it |
| 22:43.16 | streuner_ | neuro_damage: if you want have fun with Debian, you should read "man aptitude or/and man apt-get and man dpkg |
| 22:43.53 | sentharn | dondelelcaro: it turns out that in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistant-net.something (or something) udev creates entries with the old MAC addresses in it. Commenting out the lines let them regenerate...I think |
| 22:44.26 | streuner_ | neuro_damage: apt-get/aptitude is the tool which manage to get packages on your system, dpkg is the tool which manipulate and installs the packages |
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| 22:45.26 | dondelelcaro | sentharn: yes... that's why I wanted to see the ip link; output... |
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| 22:46.17 | brian17 | if i shutdown my computer during a dist update is everything lost? |
| 22:46.25 | dondelelcaro | brian17: no |
| 22:46.31 | dondelelcaro | (but it's generally a bad idea) |
| 22:46.48 | brian17 | i don't think the install is progressing |
| 22:46.52 | brian17 | it downloaded everything |
| 22:47.01 | brian17 | but just says working 99% |
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| 22:47.17 | streuner_ | Did you see any warning/error messages there? |
| 22:47.24 | dondelelcaro | wait, is this an install or an upgrade? |
| 22:47.45 | streuner_ | he prolly upgrades to sid *guess* |
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| 22:49.03 | streuner_ | but it sounds (99 percent) rather like an install process |
| 22:49.17 | streuner_ | brian17: so tell us :-) |
| 22:49.46 | brian17 | no i am trying to upgrade to squeeze |
| 22:49.54 | adb | or , use ssh to enter that pc and see what's in |
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| 22:50.18 | dppp | did the 2.6.28 linux image disappear in sid? |
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| 22:50.34 | streuner_ | there is .29 already in sid :-) |
| 22:51.10 | brian17 | this is what i ran |
| 22:51.13 | brian17 | aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade |
| 22:51.19 | brian17 | not it is stuck at 99 percent |
| 22:51.28 | brian17 | now* |
| 22:51.33 | dppp | oh, I thought only .2*m releases where uploaded. thanks |
| 22:51.37 | streuner_ | dppp: well, .28 isnt in sid anymore |
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| 22:52.26 | streuner_ | dppp: why do you ask? |
| 22:52.57 | jdahm | is there a way to install from testing upon initial instal? |
| 22:53.34 | dppp | streuner_: just wanted to try some updated wireless drivers. I totally missed the 2.6.29 release |
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| 22:54.53 | gewt | can You have soemthign go through one router, the route through another router? |
| 22:55.02 | streuner_ | <dondelelcaro> !tell brian17 -about lenny->squeeze |
| 22:55.04 | gewt | withotu doign any configuration on the first router? |
| 22:55.11 | gewt | and withotu directly connecting the routers? |
| 22:55.27 | streuner_ | since when doesnt tell the factoid not to use dist-upgrade? |
| 22:55.39 | brian17 | i dont know |
| 22:55.44 | streuner_ | !lenny-squeeze |
| 22:55.47 | brian17 | but i did what it told me |
| 22:55.54 | streuner_ | hm |
| 22:56.07 | dondelelcaro | streuner_: because full-upgrade is what replaced dist-upgrade |
| 22:56.16 | dondelelcaro | (they're the same) |
| 22:56.25 | streuner_ | ah, ok |
| 22:56.59 | dondelelcaro | basically, the whole dist-upgrade and upgrade commands are kind of misnomers, so they were renamed to safe-upgrade; and full-upgrade; |
| 22:57.31 | martianlobster | when I start a debian server, where does all the output from the scripts in /etc/init.d go? I just checked /var/log, and can't find it. dmesg doesn't show it either. |
| 22:58.01 | brian17 | well |
| 22:58.07 | brian17 | i guess im going to shut down |
| 22:58.14 | adb | or , use ssh to enter that pc and see what's in |
| 22:58.15 | brian17 | im tired of waiting |
| 22:58.16 | jdahm | the debian usb installation image isn't finding my ethernet card |
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| 22:59.34 | streuner_ | brian17: can you interupt the upgrade process? |
| 22:59.41 | streuner_ | hm, too late |
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| 23:02.41 | batcoder-7 | what can be used for a desktop to show all windows in tiles? |
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| 23:05.11 | blast_hardcheese | batcoder-7: Thunar... Dolphin... anything but the Gnome one, since that spawns a desktop with it. |
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| 23:05.35 | batcoder-7 | how can thunar do that ? |
| 23:05.54 | blast_hardcheese | Ah, jeez; gotta start paying more attention to what channel I am in, I thought I was in Xmonad |
| 23:06.00 | blast_hardcheese | #xmonad, rather |
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| 23:06.44 | blast_hardcheese | batcoder-7: Not sure, I know how to do it with Xmonad, since that's what Xmonad does. |
| 23:07.21 | batcoder-7 | do you know what i am talking about here ? |
| 23:07.30 | batcoder-7 | where it shows all open windows in tiles ? |
| 23:07.40 | blast_hardcheese | batcoder-7: Possibly not |
| 23:08.00 | batcoder-7 | hmm |
| 23:08.03 | blast_hardcheese | Seems like a Tiling Window Manager is what you're looking for, and Xmonad is good for that |
| 23:08.08 | batcoder-7 | any mac osx users here ? |
| 23:08.16 | streuner_ | no |
| 23:08.17 | blast_hardcheese | raises hand |
| 23:08.30 | blast_hardcheese | What, do you want Expose? |
| 23:09.22 | Mood | i accidentally chose "desktop environment" during the installation process on my imac 333 g3... what desktop environment does debian lenny have as default? |
| 23:09.31 | patrikf | blast_hardcheese: metacity can be used independently from GNOME |
| 23:09.50 | blast_hardcheese | metacity is the window manager, I'm talking about the File browser |
| 23:09.58 | blast_hardcheese | which spawns a desktop for you. |
| 23:09.58 | patrikf | ah. |
| 23:10.05 | streuner_ | Mood: GNOME |
| 23:10.20 | Mood | streuner_: i wish debian installer would say that |
| 23:10.23 | patrikf | blast_hardcheese: unless used with --no-desktop or setting it in gconf |
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| 23:10.27 | Mood | i don't want gnome, i want fluxbox |
| 23:10.36 | streuner_ | so install it :-) |
| 23:10.44 | Mood | is it easy to uninstall desktop environment post-install? |
| 23:10.45 | blast_hardcheese | Yeah, stop complaining, fix it :) |
| 23:10.56 | streuner_ | sure |
| 23:11.15 | streuner_ | Mood: /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 23:11.16 | blast_hardcheese | patrikf: That's my biggest complaint with Gnome, gconf-editor is a beast |
| 23:12.29 | patrikf | blast_hardcheese: actually, I don't think it's that bad... I usually find options quickly without having to look at documentation |
| 23:12.33 | Mood | streuner_: dpkg remove gnome will remove all components and dependencies? is that what the debian installer does by default? (the installer is rather opaque) -- in other words, does the installer simply do a dpkg install gnome when "desktop environment" is chosen? |
| 23:12.57 | blast_hardcheese | Mood: sudo tasksel, uncheck "desktop environment", say OK. |
| 23:13.00 | blast_hardcheese | problem solved. |
| 23:13.18 | patrikf | I do agree that nautilus should operate the other way round though (--desktop, and gnome-session would pass that by default) |
| 23:13.25 | blast_hardcheese | right. |
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| 23:13.34 | Mood | blast_hardcheese: i can sudo tasksel anytime after the default installation? |
| 23:13.43 | blast_hardcheese | yes |
| 23:13.52 | Mood | what does debian "standard system" install? is there a list? |
| 23:14.35 | streuner_ | it depends on the debian-installer |
| 23:14.52 | reisio | trying to get an Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100 card working... using iwlagn â can't seem to get iwconfig to show a wlan0, etc. |
| 23:15.13 | Mood | searching for "debian standard system list" on google returns ambiguous results |
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| 23:16.44 | reisio | Mood: what does it matter |
| 23:17.36 | blast_hardcheese | Mood: man is your friend, man tasksel. |
| 23:17.37 | Mood | reisio: i want a minimal install on an old box. so i'm concerned about what "standard system" contains. besides, as a general rule, why would anyone install something if they don't know what it contains |
| 23:18.10 | reisio | Mood: big extra bloat comes later, you can select desktop environment, etc. |
| 23:18.14 | reisio | the base system really is a minimal base |
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| 23:21.17 | Mood | i installed two debian distros: one with standard system+desktop environment and another without -- the one with standard system + desktop environment is taking about 3x longer... which i fear is adding unwanted bloat |
| 23:21.33 | petemc | 3x longer to do what? |
| 23:21.40 | Mood | 3x for the installation process |
| 23:22.06 | petemc | to download packages? |
| 23:22.12 | blast_hardcheese | oh dear god, more bandwidth usage! |
| 23:22.19 | blast_hardcheese | ahhhhhh! |
| 23:22.36 | Mood | w/o standard sys+DE took like 15/20 mins... w/ SS+DE is taking like over an hour... and i have a fairly fast connection |
| 23:23.32 | petemc | but the part that takes time is downloading packages? |
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| 23:27.39 | Mood | petemc: i don't think the time is downloading the packages. the installer is saying things like "preparing xyz" "installing xyz" etc... i think the longer time is due to all these extra packages i may or may not want to install |
| 23:28.11 | Mood | i think it's all gnome stuff :-( |
| 23:28.30 | Mood | which i didn't want... i'll try tasksel post-install to remove |
| 23:28.42 | petemc | perhaps you should have investigated what the task packages install before you chose to install them |
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| 23:31.51 | Mood | petemc: it would be nice to have a website which lists what packages are part of "standard system" |
| 23:32.14 | batcoder-7 | anyone here know about that tilesthing i asked about earlier? |
| 23:32.31 | Mood | seems like standard system has things like pidgin... which i didn't want either |
| 23:32.48 | Mood | and open office, ack |
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| 23:33.40 | reisio | is there a /proc/config.gz somewhere? |
| 23:34.04 | petemc | Mood: http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
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| 23:35.13 | Mood | petemc: ahh... good link. thanks |
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| 23:35.42 | Mood | i don't see openoffice or pidgin in there... must be part of gnome |
| 23:36.01 | reisio | nah :p |
| 23:36.01 | gparent | It's part of the desktop install, for sure. |
| 23:36.11 | gparent | I had to remove them both when I uninstalled the GUI from my machine. |
| 23:36.34 | petemc | Mood: it mentions openoffice will be installed |
| 23:37.01 | petemc | Mood: complain less, read more |
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| 23:37.44 | Mood | i'm a complainer :-s |
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| 23:38.01 | petemc | how would you describe your comments about the desktop task? |
| 23:38.13 | wireddd | so is it even worth installing kde4 using debian? |
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| 23:38.52 | illikawn | ive tried installing alsa-oss to get aoss but running aoss ./et I still get /dev/dsp not found. How can I run enemy territory with sound and not have a /dev/dsp? |
| 23:38.56 | Mood | petemc: complaining as well as confused |
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| 23:40.00 | petemc | in any case, you've found information on how to list the packages in the various tasks, so its not an error you will be repeating |
| 23:40.26 | Mood | petemc: agreed |
| 23:42.29 | DeadFishMan | wireddd: If you're willing to put with a little instability, I'd say definitely. I'm using KDE 4.2.1 in Sid - soon to upgrade to 4.2.2 as son as it hits Experimental - and I am loving it. |
| 23:43.46 | wireddd | DeadFishMan: I run sid already, but I am hesitant to use so much from experimental |
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| 23:45.19 | DeadFishMan | wireddd: Well, it has been fairly stable here and the only problem that I had was with NetworkManager some time ago and that was from Sid itself, not Experimental |
| 23:46.17 | wireddd | I am actually thinking about jumping distros since I am about to reinstall |
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| 23:46.39 | DeadFishMan | wireddd: KDE4 became usable with 4.2 here and some apps are slowly being ported to KDE 4, such as konversation |
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| 23:46.47 | abrotman | wireddd: FWIW .. kde4 is on its way into unstable |
| 23:46.51 | Maior | is so glad he moved to debian recently |
| 23:47.32 | wireddd | abrotman: any idea when it is due? |
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| 23:47.52 | wireddd | are we talking months or some time this year? |
| 23:48.29 | abrotman | wireddd: uhm .. i think it was just on planet.d.o |
| 23:48.44 | abrotman | http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/04/02/kde-42-in-unstable-is-coming/ |
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| 23:50.04 | amphi | illikawn: is snd-pcm-oss loaded? |
| 23:50.19 | amphi | illikawn: er, snd_pcm_oss |
| 23:51.43 | wireddd | ok, I guess I will wait to rebuild my system so I can just install it fresh |
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| 23:52.32 | wireddd | this one was originally woody stable |
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| 23:53.44 | batcoder-7 | i still dont know how to get a way where i can see tiles of all the windows i have open |
| 23:53.54 | batcoder-7 | anyone got any ideas on that? |
| 23:54.02 | wireddd | alt tab? |
| 23:54.08 | wireddd | or in the console? |
| 23:54.49 | petemc | your console does windowing? |
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| 23:55.18 | wireddd | petemc: as in a text list |
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| 23:55.43 | petemc | um |
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| 23:56.01 | wireddd | oh, I read that as titles |
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| 23:56.21 | petemc | whisky time |
| 23:56.54 | varney | hi moved a hd i had debian installed on around to another place in my pc (another connector) and it wouldn't boot, so i edited grub with the 'e' key at the menu to change the hd it boots from, and it almost boot but then complained about swap; errors about it not being found, and trying to read more sectors than it should have. next when i tried to boot, it says 'a disk read error has occured' and all i can do is restart, no grub menu at all. |
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| 23:57.01 | varney | is there any way to recover? |
| 23:57.08 | varney | or did the disk just get messed up |
| 23:57.09 | DeadFishMan | also read 'titles' and kept thinking about the Compiz Expose plug-in ^_^ |
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