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| 00:13.21 | batcoder-7 | anyone know anyhing like expose for linux |
| 00:13.37 | C4colo | how do I figure out what version (lenny, etch, etc) that a system is running? |
| 00:13.42 | Maior | batcoder-7: what's expose? |
| 00:13.49 | batcoder-7 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktTNcj0fAM4 |
| 00:13.55 | Maior | batcoder-7: I have no flash |
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| 00:14.07 | batcoder-7 | umm well like this |
| 00:14.16 | martian67 | C4colo, look in /etc/apt/source.lst |
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| 00:14.21 | martian67 | C4colo, look in /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 00:14.23 | martian67 | rather |
| 00:14.35 | batcoder-7 | http://www.inspectmygadget.com/wp-content/images/Expose.jpg |
| 00:14.39 | martian67 | although there is probly a file sitting in /etc/ |
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| 00:14.51 | batcoder-7 | Maior, that would be expose right there ^^ |
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| 00:15.02 | C4colo | martian67: that's the problem, it's only their custom rpm, I need to add the "real" rpm so I can install things like slocate |
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| 00:15.07 | C4colo | "deb http://packages.vyatta.com/vyatta stable main # community #" |
| 00:15.14 | C4colo | that's all that is in the sources.list |
| 00:15.24 | sepult | !seen sitting cow |
| 00:15.25 | dpkg | sepult: i haven't seen 'sitting cow' |
| 00:15.26 | martian67 | C4colo, um rpm? |
| 00:15.39 | C4colo | sorry |
| 00:15.41 | C4colo | deb |
| 00:15.42 | C4colo | lol |
| 00:15.50 | twinkie_addict | hi im lenny how do i finf out exacly what driver my wifi card wich is an atheros is using ? |
| 00:16.05 | abrotman | twinkie_addict: lspci -k |
| 00:16.11 | batcoder-7 | or if anyone else knows anyting like expose that you use? |
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| 00:16.17 | sepult | lyer |
| 00:16.45 | sepult | plays the blind one now |
| 00:16.49 | sepult | lol |
| 00:16.51 | twinkie_addict | thanks |
| 00:17.00 | C4colo | I've been working on so many different servers today, openbsd, centos, debian, ubuntu, etc ... can't keep them all straight |
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| 00:18.39 | martian67 | C4colo, cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 00:18.58 | C4colo | lenny/sid |
| 00:19.01 | C4colo | thanks |
| 00:19.11 | martian67 | a bad choice for a server btw |
| 00:19.12 | martian67 | :P |
| 00:19.19 | C4colo | I didn't build it |
| 00:19.22 | C4colo | talk to the vyatta guys |
| 00:19.26 | martian67 | its probly sitting in debian testing |
| 00:19.41 | martian67 | if you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 00:19.47 | martian67 | it will update it to the latest stable |
| 00:19.54 | abrotman | he should check his sources.list first |
| 00:19.55 | martian67 | but i wouldnt do that without investigating |
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| 00:20.06 | martian67 | abrotman, [18:16] <C4colo> "deb http://packages.vyatta.com/vyatta stable main # community #" |
| 00:20.21 | martian67 | but, that repo may contain old packages |
| 00:20.21 | C4colo | they use a subset of the files, only what they need |
| 00:20.25 | martian67 | or custom packages |
| 00:20.36 | C4colo | but I need more, so I'm going to put the lenny repo in the list and grab a few things |
| 00:20.42 | abrotman | what is vyatta ? |
| 00:20.44 | C4colo | then disable it |
| 00:20.54 | C4colo | ever used a juniper router? |
| 00:21.05 | abrotman | you should ask their support .. it's not debian |
| 00:21.06 | C4colo | or imagestream |
| 00:21.25 | C4colo | it's an open-source 'real' router |
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| 00:21.35 | MementoMori | hi |
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| 00:22.09 | MementoMori | is there a cli tool for reading system logs? |
| 00:22.17 | C4colo | enterprise/carrier grade routing solution with a nice CLI and lots of features built in |
| 00:22.22 | petemc | MementoMori: less |
| 00:22.23 | C4colo | reading, like displaying? |
| 00:22.32 | C4colo | oh yea |
| 00:22.35 | C4colo | or tail |
| 00:22.38 | MementoMori | i mean something clever then tail/less/cat |
| 00:22.41 | Eulex | MementoMori, cat, less, nano, vi, vim, emacs, tail etc etc |
| 00:22.42 | C4colo | tail -1000 /var/log/blah |
| 00:23.29 | C4colo | abrotman: I'm not asking for support here beyond "how do I tell what distro I'm running" ... I don't expect anyone here to know how to support vyatta |
| 00:24.06 | abrotman | how can we tell you which version of "Debian" you're running if it's not debian |
| 00:24.15 | C4colo | heh |
| 00:24.17 | C4colo | it's debian |
| 00:24.20 | MementoMori | I actually use tailf but I would like something more specialized |
| 00:24.21 | C4colo | which is why I'm asking here |
| 00:24.31 | Eulex | C4colo, we don't know what changes they made to debian that will make it different from debian |
| 00:24.37 | C4colo | I know |
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| 00:24.40 | abrotman | no it's not .. or it would be called debian |
| 00:24.43 | C4colo | did I ask you to support any changes they made? |
| 00:24.44 | martian67 | MementoMori, learn to play with sed/grep/awk |
| 00:24.49 | martian67 | possibly even perl |
| 00:24.57 | C4colo | vyatta:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:24.57 | C4colo | lenny/sid |
| 00:24.57 | martian67 | then you can get exactly what you want |
| 00:25.08 | C4colo | it's debian |
| 00:25.17 | Eulex | C4colo, we support only real debian here, not derivates |
| 00:25.23 | martian67 | technically its a debian derived distro with sid backports |
| 00:25.24 | C4colo | it's not a derivitive |
| 00:25.27 | C4colo | it is debian |
| 00:25.31 | martian67 | that could make a straight upgrade messy |
| 00:25.33 | MementoMori | martian67: I just work a little with perl/grep ;) anyway... nevermind |
| 00:25.35 | C4colo | they installed applications on it |
| 00:25.41 | C4colo | like quagga |
| 00:25.56 | C4colo | and removed/never-installed some apps |
| 00:25.59 | C4colo | but the core is debian |
| 00:26.13 | martian67 | C4colo, but with sid backports |
| 00:26.18 | martian67 | it is going to make upgrading a pain |
| 00:26.23 | patrikf | C4colo: we're not supporting ubuntu here either if that helps you understand. |
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| 00:26.35 | C4colo | I'm not asking about upgrading, they have a repo for upgrades |
| 00:26.44 | patrikf | C4colo: distributions "based" on debian often change a whole lot of things, especially when configuration is concerned |
| 00:26.47 | C4colo | all I need is to install slocate or mlocate and a few other little apps |
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| 00:26.59 | C4colo | I didn't ask for support... where the fuck is this coming from? |
| 00:27.00 | abrotman | C4colo: you're offtopic here, and risking being banned |
| 00:27.06 | C4colo | you are assuming a whole hell of a lot |
| 00:27.11 | abrotman | if you're not asking for support .. what are you doing? |
| 00:27.12 | C4colo | I'M OFF TOPIC? |
| 00:27.13 | martian67 | easy guys |
| 00:27.16 | martian67 | all he wanted to know |
| 00:27.24 | C4colo | I'm not the one berating a newcomer with shit that is irrelevant |
| 00:27.25 | martian67 | was how to find what debian was derived from |
| 00:27.28 | martian67 | he didnt ask anyone else |
| 00:27.32 | martian67 | *anything |
| 00:27.44 | abrotman | he should ask the people that installed it |
| 00:27.56 | martian67 | C4colo, a lenny slocate package is LIKELY to work |
| 00:27.59 | martian67 | but no promises |
| 00:28.10 | Eulex | C4colo, only official debian is on-topic here. do you understand? |
| 00:28.12 | martian67 | if it breaks you get to keep the peices :) |
| 00:28.24 | C4colo | I'm asking about an official debian function |
| 00:28.40 | C4colo | where do you store the version info? ... answer /etc/debian_version |
| 00:28.41 | C4colo | done |
| 00:28.58 | martianlobster | If I want to shutdodwn Xvnc, what is the correct command? I tried Xvnc -terminate, and Xvnc -terminate :1, (the server is #1 on port 5901), but neither work. |
| 00:28.59 | martian67 | C4colo, the point has been made, any further arguing isnt going to lead anywhere useful |
| 00:29.01 | C4colo | the rest of this conversation is pointless, I'm only trying to answer and respond to your questions out of common curtesy |
| 00:29.08 | C4colo | and you are treating me quite rudely |
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| 00:29.22 | C4colo | I'm not asking anyone to support this, i can do that myself and wouldn't expect anyone here to support it |
| 00:29.23 | martian67 | C4colo, for the record, they dont care |
| 00:29.35 | MementoMori | C4colo: lsb_release -a |
| 00:29.48 | C4colo | shit, if I want to be treated like this I'll go to #centos |
| 00:29.54 | DARKGuy | hey is there any way I can reset the root password if I can't get past the login screen? I need to get some data out from a laptop and my friend can't remember the password for root or his own user :/ |
| 00:29.55 | bzed | haha |
| 00:29.59 | martian67 | C4colo, please stop |
| 00:30.31 | petemc | DARKGuy: /msg dpkg ifrp , or pull the drive out and use a usb caddy |
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| 00:30.42 | MementoMori | DARKGuy: use init=/bin/sh at the grub prompt |
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| 00:31.06 | DARKGuy | petemc, I don't have usb caddy, and they're expensive. |
| 00:31.07 | martian67 | note that if you do that |
| 00:31.16 | martian67 | you will need to remount the system r/w |
| 00:31.16 | DARKGuy | MementoMori, oh, I'll try it, thanks |
| 00:31.21 | martian67 | before you can do anything |
| 00:31.29 | martian67 | mount -o rw / |
| 00:31.30 | petemc | DARKGuy: i guess its relative, but i dont they can be considered expensive |
| 00:31.31 | bzed | DARKGuy: why don't you msg dpkg as petemc told you? |
| 00:31.43 | MementoMori | DARKGuy: if your grub is without pass you'll get a # prompt ;) |
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| 00:31.46 | DARKGuy | bzed, because I don't know he meant that |
| 00:31.47 | DARKGuy | >_>. |
| 00:31.51 | DARKGuy | *didn't |
| 00:31.56 | abrotman | martian67: /msg dpkg ifrp ... it explains all that |
| 00:32.16 | martian67 | abrotman, personally i dont care ;) |
| 00:32.25 | DARKGuy | oooh wow |
| 00:32.27 | DARKGuy | that rules |
| 00:32.30 | martian67 | just elaborating a common gotcha |
| 00:32.35 | abrotman | okay .. so just keep repeating everything the bot says |
| 00:32.47 | martian67 | abrotman, thats most of what goes on here all day anyways |
| 00:32.49 | martian67 | aha |
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| 00:33.11 | krefik | aloha |
| 00:33.12 | MementoMori | DARKGuy: got it? |
| 00:33.14 | martian67 | passwd gives weird errors on an r/o system |
| 00:33.18 | abrotman | martian67: so you're just as guilty ? |
| 00:33.26 | martian67 | not what you would expect anyways |
| 00:33.27 | petemc | martian67: that causality |
| 00:33.30 | petemc | +s |
| 00:33.35 | batcoder-7 | is skippy in debian? |
| 00:33.45 | DARKGuy | MementoMori, yeah, I'm gonna try it, thanks :D |
| 00:33.47 | petemc | batcoder-7: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:33.50 | bzed | batcoder-7: ask packages.debian.org :) |
| 00:34.04 | MementoMori | DARKGuy: you should remount / in rw |
| 00:34.14 | krefik | anyone know way to find out where distinct package come from? or list every package acquired from given repo? |
| 00:34.26 | MementoMori | DARKGuy: before you can passwd root |
| 00:34.35 | abrotman | krefik: /msg dpkg which repo |
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| 00:34.47 | batcoder-7 | says skippy is not in the debian world |
| 00:34.56 | martian67 | batcoder-7, then no |
| 00:35.06 | batcoder-7 | damn that sucks |
| 00:35.06 | bzed | MementoMori: you also did not read what dpkg knows about ifrp |
| 00:35.08 | DARKGuy | MementoMori, oh, thanks for the tip |
| 00:35.10 | martian67 | you may be able to find it in 3rd party repos |
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| 00:35.17 | martian67 | but you should be aware of what that entails |
| 00:35.21 | batcoder-7 | anyone else here use anything like expose on mac os x for devian ? |
| 00:35.31 | batcoder-7 | debian |
| 00:35.33 | bzed | batcoder-7: what is skippy? |
| 00:35.41 | amphi | compiz has similar funtionality |
| 00:35.51 | krefik | thx abrotman ;* |
| 00:35.55 | MementoMori | bzed: I'm very new to this chan so I dont know what you are trying to tell me |
| 00:35.56 | martian67 | batcoder-7, as a last resort you can use something like checkinstall to build a debian package out of whatever make install does |
| 00:36.08 | martian67 | i find checkinstall to be an extremely handy tool |
| 00:36.10 | bzed | !tell MementoMori about ifrp |
| 00:36.17 | MementoMori | bzed: thanks |
| 00:36.21 | bzed | :) |
| 00:36.36 | batcoder-7 | http://silentbits.com/linux/xgl/ |
| 00:36.48 | amphi | batcoder-7: my remark was to you, by the way ;) |
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| 00:36.55 | batcoder-7 | i used to love checkinstall for slackware |
| 00:37.11 | martian67 | batcoder-7, then you will be glad to know it works equally well on debian ;) |
| 00:37.33 | amphi | batcoder-7: xgl is deprecated as far as I know & not maintained at all |
| 00:37.46 | bzed | batcoder-7: you could file a RFP bug for it. |
| 00:37.50 | batcoder-7 | i have a 1000 dpi mouse how can i amke sure i am getting the complete 1000 dpi out of it ? |
| 00:38.02 | martian67 | batcoder-7, XGL functionality has been folded into AIGLX, now a part of the x11 server |
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| 00:38.12 | MementoMori | bzed: great! but why these infos are under ifrp key? |
| 00:38.31 | bzed | MementoMori: I Forgot my Root Password |
| 00:38.36 | abrotman | MementoMori: it stands for "I Forgot Root's Password" |
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| 00:38.50 | martian67 | charlie root is a forgetful man :( |
| 00:38.54 | MementoMori | wow ;) you are my super heroes! |
| 00:39.07 | bzed | dpkg, be my super hero! |
| 00:39.07 | dpkg | bzed: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 00:39.13 | bzed | damn :D |
| 00:39.17 | MementoMori | lol |
| 00:39.19 | DARKGuy | thanks a lot for the dpkg line :D |
| 00:39.22 | DARKGuy | it worked ^_^ |
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| 00:39.51 | batcoder-7 | has anyone here ever used anything like skippy for linux |
| 00:39.54 | varney | is there any command to disable swsusp from being used on debian boot? |
| 00:39.56 | MementoMori | DARKGuy: now if you want to learn more you should discover WHY it worked |
| 00:40.06 | batcoder-7 | also is compuzfusion or w/e really all that heavyf i only want this little functinality ? |
| 00:40.10 | varney | via the commandline, preferably |
| 00:40.20 | martian67 | batcoder-7, they are required |
| 00:40.44 | batcoder-7 | i just want this little expose feature |
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| 00:41.11 | batcoder-7 | it seems like it would be very useful for me |
| 00:41.20 | batcoder-7 | i guuess i could comoile my own |
| 00:41.21 | patrikf | batcoder-7: and why don't you use compiz then? |
| 00:41.36 | batcoder-7 | because it is a prtty heavy app isn't it ? |
| 00:41.43 | batcoder-7 | i only want this little feature notong big |
| 00:41.49 | batcoder-7 | i dont need spinnig cubes n shit |
| 00:41.57 | patrikf | batcoder-7: you can disable it :D |
| 00:42.05 | patrikf | and it's not little functionality with X windows |
| 00:42.11 | batcoder-7 | does it save resources then or no ? |
| 00:42.45 | patrikf | batcoder-7: in principle, if you have a 3D-accelerating graphics card in your system, you won't need to worry about compiz performance |
| 00:43.13 | batcoder-7 | again though i dont want that 3d stuff |
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| 00:43.41 | martian67 | batcoder-7, well the functionality is build into x11 either way |
| 00:43.54 | martian67 | compiz just exposes it |
| 00:44.02 | martian67 | *built |
| 00:44.06 | batcoder-7 | is it really? |
| 00:44.13 | martian67 | so its not as heavy as you are imagining |
| 00:44.16 | batcoder-7 | does skippy expose it as well? |
| 00:44.26 | martian67 | well skippy most likely builds on compiz |
| 00:44.34 | martian67 | or uses compiz's functions |
| 00:45.57 | batcoder-7 | they are seperate for sure |
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| 00:46.10 | andreas | hey guys |
| 00:46.43 | krefik | anyone know where can I find fresh vlc build for sid? |
| 00:46.46 | andreas | how can i add a packagesource to my debian lenny with kde? |
| 00:47.00 | andreas | krefik build it urself? |
| 00:47.20 | andreas | or check tzhe repos if there is a url for them... |
| 00:47.27 | MementoMori | someone tried to break my sshd. what can I do? |
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| 00:48.19 | MementoMori | not actually break... just tried to login ;) |
| 00:48.22 | krefik | andreas: repos from videolan.org are extremely outdated, and I don't have so much drive space to install build deps |
| 00:48.34 | krefik | MementoMori: try to find him IRL and punch in face ;p |
| 00:48.40 | varney | anyone know how to disable swsusp via the grub commandline? i moved my hd to a different connector and i keep getting swsusp i/o errors |
| 00:48.47 | batcoder-7 | martian67, maybe i am just tripping and should just learn to use alt tab right ? |
| 00:48.58 | andreas | varney can u tell me how to add a new source to my package list? or where to find the experimental and unstable tree links? |
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| 00:49.42 | varney | sure, just nano /etc/apt/sources.lst |
| 00:50.06 | varney | then add in the sources you want |
| 00:50.30 | varney | http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11185-0.html?forumID=90&threadID=179944&start=0 |
| 00:50.37 | abrotman | andreas: if you have to ask how to change your sources.list you *really* should not be using unstable or experimental |
| 00:50.40 | andreas | why cant i start kde programs with guzi from command line |
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| 00:50.56 | varney | then save the file and run aptitude update |
| 00:51.02 | andreas | it tells me this |
| 00:51.08 | abrotman | varney: do not paste that file in here again .. it's *very* outdated |
| 00:51.15 | andreas | No protocol specified |
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| 00:51.32 | varney | it was just an example, then :| |
| 00:51.32 | andreas | kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 00:51.33 | abrotman | varney: and using those sources would very likely mess up his box |
| 00:51.39 | abrotman | varney: a very poor example |
| 00:51.45 | abrotman | andreas: stop running it as root |
| 00:51.45 | varney | ok ok i get it |
| 00:51.50 | varney | you help him then |
| 00:52.15 | FabParma | Please, how copy files from a ms-wimdows share by shell? |
| 00:52.16 | martian67 | andash, are you su'ed as another user? |
| 00:52.16 | varney | and help me disable swsusp from grub commandline if possible so i don't have to reinstall debian all over again |
| 00:52.26 | martian67 | or running sudo? |
| 00:52.38 | abrotman | martian67: mistab |
| 00:52.50 | martian67 | oops |
| 00:52.50 | abrotman | andreas: why do you want to edit your sources ? |
| 00:53.00 | martian67 | andreas, rather |
| 00:53.14 | martianlobster | I just wrote a script vncserver, and put in the /etc/init.d directory. I then did rc-update vncserver defaults. It then was added to every run level. But in /etc/inittab, the default rule level is set as 2. Here is the output: http://acumen.dyndns.biz/foo.txt Why was it added to all 6 rc.d subdirectories, instead of just rc2.d ? |
| 00:53.20 | krefik | FabParma: most comfortable way is smbfs/smbnetfs |
| 00:53.30 | andreas | martian67 huih`? |
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| 00:53.52 | varney | abrotman: http://forums.opensuse.org/archives/sf-archives/archives-install-boot/336906-unable-delete-sw-raid-volume-using-mdadm.html |
| 00:53.56 | varney | see the last line |
| 00:54.02 | varney | or paragraph rather |
| 00:54.18 | abrotman | varney: that's for suse .. not debian |
| 00:54.21 | varney | "By adding the "noresume" line to the kernel command line, this is switched off, " |
| 00:54.32 | varney | can i do similar in debian? |
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| 00:55.21 | abrotman | varney: i would imagine so |
| 00:55.27 | MementoMori | how can a sysadmin sleep at night while his services are always under attack... |
| 00:55.45 | varney | hmm ok thanks |
| 00:55.53 | varney | i just found out it worked for someone with ubuntu |
| 00:55.57 | varney | so let's hope so :) |
| 00:56.04 | blast_hardcheese | MementoMori: all services are always under attack |
| 00:56.17 | varney | later, and excuse me for posting such an outdated sources.list example |
| 00:56.29 | varney | i didn't even see the word 'sarge' lol |
| 00:56.37 | MementoMori | blast_hardcheese: what's the best defense? |
| 00:56.49 | blast_hardcheese | A good offense? |
| 00:56.53 | blast_hardcheese | ;) |
| 00:57.10 | varney | what a cliche |
| 00:57.10 | MementoMori | blast_hardcheese: i'm sure you dont think so |
| 00:57.15 | MementoMori | ;) |
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| 00:57.51 | blast_hardcheese | Yeah, I'm just joking, I just watch the SSH and Apache logs roll by, people trying to log in as various things and spam my forums |
| 00:58.27 | [user] | hey need help compiling vlc on debian |
| 00:58.34 | MementoMori | my question actually was: which the best way to learn hardening your systems |
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| 00:59.47 | [user] | get the harden-doc from your mirror and read it I think that is a good place to start |
| 01:00.04 | abrotman | [user]: aptitude install vlc .. done! |
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| 01:00.37 | [user] | I have the source, I want to compile :P |
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| 01:01.01 | andreas | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny unstable is that right as an sources.list entry? |
| 01:01.08 | abrotman | no |
| 01:01.08 | MementoMori | [user]: aptitude search harden | wc -l |
| 01:01.08 | MementoMori | 11 |
| 01:01.21 | MementoMori | [user]: thank you very much |
| 01:01.22 | abrotman | andreas: if you don't know how to do this, please do not try to use unstable |
| 01:01.27 | [user] | aptitude install harden-doc |
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| 01:01.33 | MementoMori | now I have a way to follow |
| 01:02.15 | [user] | :D |
| 01:02.28 | andreas | abrotman i do this in a vbox dont worry |
| 01:02.35 | adb | andreas: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny main |
| 01:02.35 | abrotman | it doesn't matter where it is |
| 01:02.37 | andreas | so is it rtight or notÃ?= |
| 01:02.43 | MementoMori | is going to study |
| 01:02.46 | [user] | me too |
| 01:02.47 | abrotman | andreas: i said no .. and please don't do this |
| 01:02.58 | MementoMori | bye! |
| 01:03.06 | [user] | bye :) |
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| 01:05.11 | andreas | abrotman what are u for a person this is for testing and helping people u |
| 01:05.23 | abrotman | right .. okay |
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| 01:05.33 | andreas | abrotman i want to help weed out bugs this way |
| 01:06.03 | andreas | abrotman: also i told u its in a vbox |
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| 01:07.23 | andreas | abrotman are u some kind of sysadmin? or just a scruphy user who had his problems with unstable too? |
| 01:09.55 | andreas | !sources |
| 01:09.56 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 01:22.36 | amitprakash | hi.. whenever i try to compile something from source.. i keep getting clock skew errors |
| 01:22.38 | amitprakash | any ideas why? |
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| 01:23.41 | petemc | amitprakash: whats the time stamp on the files you're compiling? |
| 01:24.09 | pickcoder | amitprakash: if you're not running ntpd then you should be. Your hardware clock may be missing ticks |
| 01:24.19 | amitprakash | petemc, Nov 1 2007 |
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| 01:24.33 | amitprakash | pickcoder, might be that.. i doubt if ntpd is running |
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| 01:31.02 | skilz | Lord^Anubis_, mummy fan ey? |
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| 01:36.08 | Lord^Anubis_ | skilz: nah, stargate is more like it |
| 01:36.08 | Lord^Anubis_ | but i like the mummy too |
| 01:36.15 | Lord^Anubis_ | ancient egypt ftw |
| 01:36.49 | skilz | thats right |
| 01:37.12 | skilz | I confused Anubis with The Mummy |
| 01:37.21 | skilz | wasn't thinking Stargate |
| 01:37.37 | Lord^Anubis_ | hehe |
| 01:37.42 | martianlobster | Could someone remind me, what is the name of that script file, for configuring xinitrc ? |
| 01:37.49 | Lord^Anubis_ | anubis is an ancient egyption god |
| 01:38.01 | Lord^Anubis_ | of death |
| 01:38.05 | Lord^Anubis_ | the dog jackal thingy |
| 01:38.11 | skilz | yeah |
| 01:38.18 | Lord^Anubis_ | quite a portrayal in stargate |
| 01:38.21 | skilz | come on dr jackson |
| 01:38.24 | Lord^Anubis_ | good stuff there |
| 01:39.03 | skilz | you can be dr jackson, i'll be kernal o`neal |
| 01:39.17 | skilz | let |
| 01:39.19 | abrotman | colonel ? |
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| 01:39.31 | Gollum | Tired of N*I*G*G*E*R*S and their general monkeyshines? Join the alliance of Asians, Native Americans, Jews, Whites, and non-Negroid hispanics in the epic battle of Human vs Negro! Join Chimp Out! http://www.chimpout.com/forum Please help us turn the tide against the shitskin menace. Civilization depends on you! |
| 01:39.35 | skilz | let's get these microsoft system lords |
| 01:39.47 | LjL | !ops gollum network trolling |
| 01:39.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: ljl complains about: gollum network trolling |
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| 01:40.14 | abrotman | LjL: thanks |
| 01:40.39 | peppe | what kind of spam was that exactly? |
| 01:41.10 | abrotman | peppe: stupid spam |
| 01:41.21 | peppe | :| |
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| 01:42.53 | Lord^Anubis_ | lol |
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| 01:43.12 | Lord^Anubis_ | and don't forget teal'c |
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| 01:44.14 | octoserver | what is a good prog to make my own DVD from scratch with an mpeg4 ? |
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| 01:45.24 | krefik | dvdauthorwizard |
| 01:46.52 | octoserver | cool thanks |
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| 01:56.13 | nsadmin | hi, is there a package for slmodemd for lenny? |
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| 01:57.26 | octoserver | where can i get libdvd3 from? do I have to use the vidolan repo? |
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| 01:57.59 | octoserver | they dont have a 64bit one |
| 01:58.10 | octoserver | can i use the i386? |
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| 01:58.54 | brian17 | hello |
| 01:59.11 | brian17 | i am running lenny but want to upgrade to squeeze |
| 01:59.21 | brian17 | is there anything wrong with my sources? |
| 01:59.29 | brian17 | http://paste.debian.net/32447/ |
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| 02:01.32 | edju | e |
| 02:02.32 | brian17 | i am trying to upgrade amd64 system btw |
| 02:02.37 | octoserver | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libdvdread3 it is here so wy dont I have it in my repos? I am using testing repos |
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| 02:14.34 | octoserver | why would lenny have libdvdread3 and not testing? shouldnt testing be lenny + newer stuff, but at lease = to lenny ? |
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| 02:15.32 | nsadmin | octoserver: when maintainers upload their packages normally, they go into unstable first |
| 02:15.49 | asg | octoserver: /msg dpkg why is libdvdread3 not in testing |
| 02:15.55 | bzed | octoserver: there was a soname bump. libdvdread4 is what you're looking for now |
| 02:15.56 | nsadmin | then if there are no bugs for awhile, they "leak" out of unstable into testing |
| 02:16.05 | nsadmin | on the other hand |
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| 02:16.33 | octoserver | oh, i needed it for adependancy while trying to install dvdauthorwizard |
| 02:16.43 | abrotman | judd: versions libdvdread4 |
| 02:16.44 | judd | abrotman: libdvdread4 -- sid: 4.1.3-4 squeeze: 4.1.3-4 |
| 02:16.46 | nsadmin | if something is in stable (something that was already released), then it stays in stable no matter what happens in unstable and testing; it |
| 02:16.47 | octoserver | i had to install it from a lenny repo |
| 02:16.53 | nsadmin | is completely independent |
| 02:17.11 | bzed | octoserver: the right solution is to rebuild the package which asks for it |
| 02:17.23 | bzed | octoserver: rebuilt it against the current libdvdread4 and libdvdread-dev |
| 02:17.59 | octoserver | yea, the package is in the testing repo, i guess they need to get around to rebuilding it |
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| 02:18.29 | octoserver | i jsut put libdvdread3 in for now,actually i have libdvdread3 and 4 in |
| 02:20.46 | octoserver | weird, i installed dvdauthorwizard, but it is nowhere to be found |
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| 02:28.23 | WormFood | does the build process automatically take advantage of multiple cores now, or do I still have to add an option? (I haven't had a SMP machine in years) |
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| 02:30.00 | petemc | WormFood: which build process? kernel? |
| 02:30.35 | WormFood | yeah, that is what I'm building now |
| 02:30.39 | abrotman | none of them do AFAIK .. |
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| 02:31.14 | petemc | concurrency_level does the same thing as -j afaicr |
| 02:31.18 | WormFood | I was thinking it wouldn't automatically detect and take advantage of SMP...but things do change, which is why I asked |
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| 02:32.15 | WormFood | yeah, I remember the -j option...haven't used that in years |
| 02:32.35 | WormFood | oh yeah! much much much faster with -j :D |
| 02:32.56 | Mood | i cannot find lspci for my powerpc distro of debian |
| 02:33.22 | abrotman | Mood: in psutils |
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| 02:33.30 | abrotman | uhm .. no wrong |
| 02:33.32 | petemc | pciutils |
| 02:33.45 | Mood | ahh.... ok |
| 02:34.05 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.05 | Mood | i thought i was going bonkers when "sudo apt-cache search lspci" was returning nothing :-s |
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| 02:34.16 | abrotman | Mood: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 02:34.17 | petemc | no need for sudo |
| 02:35.06 | WormFood | isn't there a environment I can set, to tell make to use multiple threads? I remember this from when I had a smp machine, but forget the details now...been so many years |
| 02:35.40 | abrotman | for which program? |
| 02:35.43 | petemc | CONCURRENCY_LEVEL |
| 02:35.45 | WormFood | make |
| 02:35.45 | MattJ | WormFood: You're probably looking for -jX |
| 02:35.59 | MattJ | where X is the number of concurrent tasks to run |
| 02:36.10 | abrotman | for make it's -j .. for make-kpkg, it's kernel-pkg.conf .. and there's another for building packages |
| 02:36.48 | Mood | thanks guys for the pciutils info |
| 02:37.07 | Mood | abrotman, petemc |
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| 02:57.22 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 02:57.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 02:58.25 | jetscreamer | !smart questions |
| 02:58.26 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with computer experts. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
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| 03:02.37 | ariqs | my program is terminating because of bad_alloc. It's going heavily into swap before it does it, but it runs out of memory way before it runs out of swap so I think it's a limitation set by the OS. I was told that limits.conf might have sometihng to do with it, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to edit it without some guidance. I see a max resident set size of 1 gig, but I don't see how that would be the limiting factor since that doesn't keep it from expand |
| 03:02.38 | ariqs | ing as virtual memory in swap, right? |
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| 03:03.48 | adb | !tell jetscreamer about selftell |
| 03:04.02 | ddalton | how could I obtain a package that used to be on http://incoming.debian.org |
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| 03:04.36 | abrotman | ddalton: it should be in unstable now ? |
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| 03:04.52 | mules666_ | morgen |
| 03:04.56 | ddalton | oh cool, thanks so i just point my aptitude to "unstable"? |
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| 03:05.35 | mules666_ | ich bin erst 4 das dabei |
| 03:05.49 | mules666_ | tage dabei |
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| 03:06.42 | r00t_ | hello! |
| 03:06.44 | r00t_ | how are you! |
| 03:06.46 | r00t_ | I am good! |
| 03:06.49 | r00t_ | heloo! |
| 03:06.52 | r00t_ | how are you! |
| 03:06.55 | r00t_ | I am good! |
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| 03:07.25 | jetscreamer | !tell adb -about how i didn't tell the bot to tell me anything |
| 03:07.28 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 03:07.30 | mules666_ | jou spick germeny |
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| 03:08.37 | kev009 | anyone know how to make a mailbox if it doesn't exist in procmail? |
| 03:09.29 | jetscreamer | !lart r00t_ |
| 03:09.30 | dpkg | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags r00t_ into court suing for $200 million |
| 03:09.40 | r00t_ | Akufen: HI |
| 03:09.42 | r00t_ | OK |
| 03:09.47 | r00t_ | I will show my problem |
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| 03:10.18 | ddalton | one other thing, what is the best way to install kernel modules into a custom live cd I'm making with live-helper? |
| 03:10.36 | r00t_ | MY BOOT HANGS FOR THIRTY SECONDS |
| 03:10.48 | rgr | anyone know if U |
| 03:10.53 | r00t_ | when doing some SHIT with the universal cdrom driver! |
| 03:10.58 | rgr | start again ... |
| 03:11.09 | r00t_ | ballza |
| 03:11.15 | r00t_ | Ill show some dmsg shiiiiit |
| 03:11.16 | r00t_ | yo |
| 03:11.23 | r00t_ | and I got boot graph thang toooo |
| 03:11.25 | r00t_ | WOOOOOOOO |
| 03:11.25 | rgr | Anyone know if I can tell gpg not to use a default key? It seems to choose first key if none specified. |
| 03:12.03 | r00t_ | ide-cd: hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache |
| 03:12.03 | r00t_ | Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 |
| 03:12.03 | r00t_ | ide_generic: please use "probe_mask=0x3f" module parameter for probing all lega$ |
| 03:12.03 | r00t_ | device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3 |
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| 03:12.17 | r00t_ | it hangs for 30 sec at |
| 03:12.19 | r00t_ | Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 |
| 03:12.31 | r00t_ | after that dmsg shows crap like |
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| 03:12.32 | r00t_ | ide_generic: please use "probe_mask=0x3f" module parameter for probing all lega$ |
| 03:12.35 | r00t_ | for instance |
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| 03:14.31 | TheSarge | I installed grub to a partition instead of the mbr, easy fixes? |
| 03:14.38 | TheSarge | Please. |
| 03:14.47 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: install it to the mbr |
| 03:14.52 | stew | TheSarge: see /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian |
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| 03:14.56 | TheSarge | Thanks? |
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| 03:15.04 | ddalton_ | hi again sorry drop out |
| 03:15.07 | r00t_ | my boot hangs for 30 sec at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" how do I fix this? |
| 03:15.20 | ddalton_ | how do i install kernel modules in a custom live cd building with |
| 03:15.24 | TheSarge | Can someone possibly tell me the command I run from the grub prompt? |
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| 03:15.28 | castingcrowns | Is there a way to decompress an image file while "dd"ing onto a drive? |
| 03:15.33 | r00t_ | my boot hangs for 30 sec at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" how do I fix this? |
| 03:15.39 | ddalton_ | live-helper and modules have to come from unstable version building on lenny and building a lenny image |
| 03:15.40 | dondelelcaro | castingcrowns: yes |
| 03:15.52 | stew | TheSarge: yeah, it'll tell you exactly what you need to do in /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian, or man grub-install |
| 03:15.57 | r00t_ | my boot hangs for 30 sec at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" how do I fix this? |
| 03:15.58 | dondelelcaro | castingcrowns: by default, dd reads from stdin and writes to stdout |
| 03:16.18 | castingcrowns | dondelelcaro: so how would the syntax look? |
| 03:16.21 | TheSarge | changes room name to #RTFM |
| 03:16.28 | TheSarge | Thanks alot, geniuses. |
| 03:16.31 | dondelelcaro | castingcrowns: man dd; see if you can guess. |
| 03:17.23 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: grub-install /dev/foo; man grub-install; for dedtail |
| 03:17.27 | dondelelcaro | s/ded/de/ |
| 03:17.34 | r00t_ | help |
| 03:17.38 | r00t_ | Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 |
| 03:17.39 | r00t_ | ide_generic: please use "probe_mask=0x3f" module parameter for probing all lega$ |
| 03:18.08 | TheSarge | Yes i saw your previous RTFM comments dondelelcaro, no need for anymore "help" from you thanks. |
| 03:18.24 | TheSarge | I mean obviously I already read the manual and don't understand the syntax |
| 03:18.33 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: the syntax is precisely what I gave. |
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| 03:18.39 | Mood | is firefox no longer available as part of the default browser choices for debian lenny? i only see a recommendation for iceweasel when i try to install firefox |
| 03:18.40 | stew | TheSarge: ask a more specific question then |
| 03:18.50 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: you just list the device you want to install to, which is something like /dev/hda or similar. |
| 03:18.54 | stew | TheSarge: if there is some part of the manual you don't udnerstand, feel free to ask |
| 03:19.01 | TheSarge | mbr |
| 03:19.15 | abrotman | Mood: right, isntall iceweasel |
| 03:19.27 | TheSarge | the mbr on sdc (hd2) |
| 03:19.37 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: then grub-install /dev/sdc; |
| 03:19.50 | Mood | abrotman: know off the top of your head if firefox plugs (like adblock) works for iceweasel? or is there a fork in the plugins too? |
| 03:19.56 | TheSarge | I dont need to tell it where my menu.lst is? |
| 03:20.04 | abrotman | Mood: they should |
| 03:20.09 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: no, it'll find it itself |
| 03:20.12 | Mood | abrotman: you use iceweasel? |
| 03:20.18 | abrotman | Mood: if not, can easily force it |
| 03:20.26 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: unless for some insane reason /boot isn't mounted |
| 03:20.27 | abrotman | Mood: sometimes, but it's not my main browser |
| 03:20.29 | TheSarge | Okay I hope this works or I will have no operating system |
| 03:20.34 | Mood | what's your main browser? |
| 03:20.41 | Mood | links2 i'm betting :-) |
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| 03:22.25 | TheSarge | anyway to test before rebooting? |
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| 03:22.39 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: if it completed successfully, it should be ok |
| 03:22.44 | TheSarge | Cause i have no install media or any live cd's or anything |
| 03:22.53 | abrotman | Mood: i use a few .. even a gecko based one ..but not normally iceweasel |
| 03:23.01 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: then you should get install media first |
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| 03:23.39 | WormFood | woot! I finally got the official nvidia drivers compiled and installed on my stock sid 2.6.29 kernel |
| 03:23.44 | TheSarge | I dont have access to any |
| 03:23.52 | castingcrowns | dondelelcaro: Sorry, reading the manuall doesnt really help me. i dont fully understand what stdout and in are and how to use them and not to use them. |
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| 03:24.15 | TheSarge | I have a bootable system on a flash disk but my bios doesnt support usb booting :( |
| 03:24.30 | Gigantic | ok so... I have lost /etc/init.d/* >.> |
| 03:24.38 | OldMonk | ouch! |
| 03:24.39 | TheSarge | wow |
| 03:24.42 | Gigantic | any way to recover them without a reinstall? |
| 03:24.43 | dondelelcaro | castingcrowns: ok... you're going to want to read a basic book on using the shell then, but for the time being gzip -dc foo.img.gz|dd of=/dev/foo; is basically what you'd do |
| 03:24.47 | TheSarge | How did you manage that? |
| 03:24.47 | Gigantic | >.> |
| 03:25.02 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: yes; reinstall anything that installs an init script with --force-confmiss. /msg dpkg confmiss for details |
| 03:25.09 | TheSarge | have you restarted since it went missing? |
| 03:25.30 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: danke |
| 03:25.55 | TheSarge | why cant cfdisk or Gparted open my partition table? Something is not right.... |
| 03:26.11 | castingcrowns | dondelelcaro: oh ok, I think I understand the syntax, thaniks. I am amazed at how much there is to learn in linux. |
| 03:26.22 | TheSarge | root duh, wow |
| 03:26.43 | OldMonk | Gigantic: holdon, let me find a list of packages for you (from my laptop) |
| 03:26.52 | abrotman | uh? |
| 03:26.56 | OldMonk | Gigantic: that should get you the base system running at least |
| 03:26.56 | Gigantic | OldMonk: I have them ty |
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| 03:27.14 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: if you don't know what all that is, dpkg -S etc/init.d | awk -F': ' '{print $2}'|xargs sudo aptitude reinstall -o Dpkg::options::='--force-confmiss'; should do it |
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| 03:27.20 | tomi | hi |
| 03:27.21 | OldMonk | Gigantic: you know which packages you need to reinstall to recover all the scripts in init.d ? |
| 03:27.37 | Gigantic | OldMonk: yes |
| 03:27.52 | OldMonk | Gigantic: cool... how did you manage that? (curious) |
| 03:28.02 | dondelelcaro | err, s/pkg::o/Pkg::O/ |
| 03:28.02 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: :P that one is neat |
| 03:28.25 | dondelelcaro | s/$2/$1/; |
| 03:28.28 | dondelelcaro | rather |
| 03:28.37 | OldMonk | ok, dondelelcaro's dpkg contortions are more interesting :) |
| 03:29.09 | TheSarge | whats command line way to restart? |
| 03:29.14 | tomi | i`ve installed subversion and i want to block access via svn://, how to do it? |
| 03:29.16 | TheSarge | I thought it was restart lol |
| 03:29.27 | TheSarge | is it like halt -r? |
| 03:29.31 | OldMonk | TheSarge: reboot the computer? reboot or init 6 |
| 03:29.39 | dondelelcaro | or shutdown -r now; |
| 03:29.39 | TheSarge | oh reboot duh |
| 03:29.44 | sepult | halt |
| 03:29.45 | TheSarge | Thanks |
| 03:29.55 | TheSarge | halt is a power off not a reboot |
| 03:30.26 | OldMonk | i believe there's some difference between init6, reboot and shutdown -r now, but i never figured it out |
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| 03:31.06 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: err, s/pkg::o/Pkg::O/ ? |
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| 03:31.46 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: dpkg -S etc/init.d | awk -F': ' '{print $1}'|xargs sudo aptitude reinstall -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss'; |
| 03:31.55 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: if you apply the two regexes I gave, that's what it turns into |
| 03:31.59 | Gigantic | uhm.... |
| 03:32.14 | OldMonk | dondelelcaro: DPkg:: or Dpkg:: ? |
| 03:32.17 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: s/foo/bar/ means substitute foo with bar |
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| 03:32.23 | dondelelcaro | OldMonk: DPkg:: |
| 03:32.28 | Gigantic | yes yes me knows |
| 03:32.31 | OldMonk | ah, ok |
| 03:32.40 | WormFood | if anyone is having header problems with sid 2.6.29 kernel (breaks many things), I can tell you how to fix it (or at least, how I fixed it), without installing a new kernel. |
| 03:32.42 | dondelelcaro | (I'm actually not sure if it matters, but if it does, what I wrote is correct) |
| 03:32.46 | Gigantic | just that "DPkg" sounds kinda weird to me |
| 03:33.03 | jetscreamer | WormFood: yes the world is |
| 03:33.06 | dondelelcaro | it's Debian Package, so DPkg is right if you're writing in camel case |
| 03:33.14 | jetscreamer | seriously |
| 03:33.33 | WormFood | I don't know why they just don't create a new package, with the right headers |
| 03:33.39 | WormFood | jetscreamer, want to know what I did? |
| 03:34.02 | jetscreamer | compiled your own kernel? |
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| 03:34.12 | WormFood | sorta |
| 03:34.20 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: rite... did you just made that up btw? the script |
| 03:34.26 | WormFood | I did compile a new kernel, but used the stock .config file |
| 03:34.32 | WormFood | so I didn't have to install a new kernel |
| 03:34.37 | jetscreamer | that works |
| 03:34.53 | jetscreamer | the version wouldn't match unless you made it would it |
| 03:35.01 | WormFood | so that made all the correct headers for me, and allowed me to install nvidia binary drivers (which is what I was shooting for) |
| 03:35.13 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: because... you got it quite quickly :P |
| 03:35.16 | WormFood | well, it did match, and it did work ;) |
| 03:35.28 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: yes... you should man dpkg-query; man xargs; man awk; and man aptitude; to see exactly what it does |
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| 03:35.52 | dondelelcaro | Gigantic: you'll almost certainly want to learn all of those as you use linux more and more |
| 03:35.58 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: I know what they do, just amazed at your scriping mind :) |
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| 03:36.10 | jetscreamer | fyi when you compile your own kernel and the compiled source is still in /usr/src the nvidia installer just magically finds it |
| 03:36.25 | WormFood | yeah, I know |
| 03:36.30 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: I've used Linux for several years anyways |
| 03:36.45 | jetscreamer | i started using linux yesterday |
| 03:36.46 | WormFood | but just installing the source there won't fix it...you have to configure it the same as the running kernel |
| 03:36.47 | tomi | tomi |
| 03:36.48 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: well, you saved me a lil of thinking and time ty :P |
| 03:36.53 | jetscreamer | this ubuntu stuff is really cool |
| 03:36.58 | WormFood | I just started using linux this morning |
| 03:37.09 | WormFood | I wasn't using it while I was sleeping :P |
| 03:37.41 | jetscreamer | !distributed.net |
| 03:37.41 | dpkg | Mooo. |
| 03:37.46 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 03:37.58 | jetscreamer | !seti |
| 03:37.59 | dpkg | it has been said that seti is is cool, the applet is a piece of crap. http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_6829.html, or see sedi |
| 03:38.09 | jetscreamer | !sedi |
| 03:38.10 | dpkg | hmm... sedi is the Search for Exorcized Demonic Intelligence |
| 03:38.23 | WormFood | is is cool? |
| 03:38.37 | jetscreamer | used to be |
| 03:38.38 | Gigantic | dpkg was excited about seti... |
| 03:38.39 | dpkg | Gigantic: I give up, what is it? |
| 03:38.57 | WormFood | I used to run folding@home, I think it was |
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| 03:39.07 | Gigantic | I still do |
| 03:39.24 | jetscreamer | can't be assed to do much of anything anymore :/ |
| 03:39.39 | Gigantic | that and mldonkey always run when I am out of home :) |
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| 03:40.11 | WormFood | I always run rtorrent...but it has been crashing when I run it on console....works fine from a terminal in X tho |
| 03:40.40 | tomi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.41 | OldMonk | people have said seti@home is actually a code breaking app for carnivore, or whatever its latest incarnation is |
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| 03:41.41 | OldMonk | ditto folding@home |
| 03:41.43 | WormFood | hahaha...that would be funny if it was true OldMonk |
| 03:41.57 | OldMonk | WormFood: i wouldn't trust any app whose source i can't see |
| 03:42.25 | _Pete_ | so do you read and understand ever prgs source before use? |
| 03:42.29 | _Pete_ | :) |
| 03:42.51 | WormFood | I want to see someone take their botnot and use it to crack a key used for something like signing games for the xbox360 or PS3, or maybe even one of the satellite providers |
| 03:42.54 | OldMonk | _Pete_: no, but i trust the wisdom of crowds |
| 03:42.58 | Gigantic | yeah... well, that ^ you can't check all code installed in your pc anyways |
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| 03:44.01 | WormFood | Gigantic, he wasn't suggesting he check ALL of the code on his computer |
| 03:44.11 | TheSarge | It still says no operating systems found? I am so lost |
| 03:44.14 | WormFood | he is suggesting that if the code is not visible, then it is not trusted |
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| 03:44.41 | Gigantic | ya |
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| 03:45.18 | TheSarge | To boot it I have to press f10 for the utility partition, which fails, then I press enter "to continur booting operating system" then it shows the bootloader menu? |
| 03:45.33 | OldMonk | btw, here's a new motto: Confickr: regain control of your computer! |
| 03:45.33 | TheSarge | continue |
| 03:46.05 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: ? ^ |
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| 03:47.51 | r0nin | what kernel headers should I use when uname says my kernel verison is *-486 and my "machine hardware name" is 686? |
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| 03:48.25 | r0nin | why could it say the hardware is 686? |
| 03:48.33 | r0nin | w |
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| 03:49.11 | TheSarge | did you guys all leave already? |
| 03:49.21 | TheSarge | In the 2 mins I was gone? |
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| 03:53.13 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ? |
| 03:53.13 | stew | route_: you should use linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 03:53.19 | stew | route_: what cpu do you have? |
| 03:53.29 | stew | TheSarge: it sounds like you aren't booting from the right drive |
| 03:54.28 | TheSarge | Only drive in the box |
| 03:54.32 | r0nin | im assuming your talking to me... its a cyrix MII |
| 03:54.55 | r0nin | I just install etch on it |
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| 03:56.39 | r0nin | MII-366 that is |
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| 03:58.13 | rfsalder | Hello all! I'm looking for some help with apt-move and apt-mirror. Could someone assist? |
| 03:59.09 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: best to just ask your question |
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| 04:01.57 | rfsalder | Cool. I'd like to set up a local debian box with 2 repositories - "primary" and "production". "Primary" would be a local mirror and I'm comfortable setting that up myself. I'd like to be able to 'move' approved packages to "production" after I've tested them and have my other debian boxes on the network update from "production". |
| 04:02.34 | rfsalder | This way, I test updates before rolling them out. |
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| 04:02.55 | rfsalder | Is this doable? Advisable? |
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| 04:03.24 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: sure, you can do it just by using mv or cp or whatever you feel comfortable with and apt-ftparchive |
| 04:03.34 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: you don't need apt-move or apt-mirror |
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| 04:04.03 | batcoder-7 | anyone here ever tried skippy before ? |
| 04:04.14 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: if you're going to be dealing with a huge number of packages, you may want to consider dak, but if it's a small number of packages (or you're not changing them that often), you don't need the overhead and complexity of dak |
| 04:04.26 | dondelelcaro | !anyone use |
| 04:04.26 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 04:05.23 | rfsalder | So, I just move the .deb files? Don't I need to recreate the Packages.gz files? Or is that what apt-ftparchive is for? |
| 04:05.36 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: that's what apt-ftparchive does, yes. |
| 04:05.39 | batcoder-7 | is 1000 considered low dpi for a mouse? |
| 04:06.01 | Gigantic | nop |
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| 04:06.34 | batcoder-7 | what is that considered medium dpi? |
| 04:06.36 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: see http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/bin/build_archive for an example of how to use apt-ftparchive |
| 04:07.12 | rfsalder | Excellent. So I can set up a hierarchy of repositories on the same server and 'promote' packages through the hierarchy. Is there a better way to manage updates for a bunch of machines? |
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| 04:08.08 | dondelelcaro | rfsalder: that's a fairly reasonble method to handle custom packages, yes. |
| 04:08.30 | Mood | what should i do if lsusb does not show the usb wifi stick i stuck in? |
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| 04:09.09 | dondelelcaro | Mood: check dmesg |
| 04:09.20 | Mood | dondelelcaro: ok- i'll try that |
| 04:11.09 | rfsalder | I'm considering using cron-apt on the stations instead of just automating apt-get update, upgrade. Do you think it's worth it or am I just being paranoid? |
| 04:11.40 | Mood | using dmesg, i see a "new usb device found" with some vendor #s, but how do i go about having lsusb recognize it? |
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| 04:13.43 | Coweater | you can try running update-usbids as root, doesn't mean it'll work necessarily but it should give you a nice description in lsusb if it's been added to the list |
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| 04:14.43 | Mood | Coweater: ok- i'll give that a try |
| 04:16.32 | Gigantic | nice.... 10 hrs of dialup reinstall... |
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| 04:20.26 | r0nin | Gigantic: thats why you dont do a network install with dialup |
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| 04:22.21 | Lagaro | I've a question: upon establishing connection via ppp on debian sid, the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ are *not* being executed -- does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 04:22.28 | Gigantic | r0nin: I've no option |
| 04:22.34 | Gigantic | s |
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| 04:23.52 | Gigantic | Lagaro: svdial |
| 04:23.58 | Gigantic | *wvdial |
| 04:24.33 | Lagaro | Gigantic: I'd prefer to keep using just straight ppp, thanks ;) |
| 04:24.57 | r0nin | I like wvdial |
| 04:25.03 | Lagaro | Gigantic: they were working . . . dunno when or why they stopped |
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| 04:27.28 | Lagaro | Gigantic: side note, the scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d/ don't seem to be executed upon a successful connection via ethernet, either . . . |
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| 04:28.24 | Gigantic | maybe networkmanager is overriding ifup? |
| 04:29.44 | rfsalder | dondelelcaro: Thanks for the help. |
| 04:30.08 | Gigantic | btw... so, it is cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb1 SomethingIdontremember /mount/point ? |
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| 04:32.49 | brick_ | anyone know how to get around this libuuid1 error when tryin to upgrade? |
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| 04:36.42 | Gigantic | ah ncm... forgot to mount the MD |
| 04:36.48 | Gigantic | *nvm |
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| 04:40.39 | tomi | How to endable access to subversion via svn://? |
| 04:40.42 | tomi | ? |
| 04:41.50 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: is there a way to download && install just the init part from the pkgs? |
| 04:42.15 | Gigantic | dondelelcaro: or I'll have to wait 10hrs in dialup >.> |
| 04:43.08 | _Pete_ | tomi: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.serverconfig.svnserve.html |
| 04:43.11 | r0nin | thats why I save packages I know ill need again, dialup will be the death of me |
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| 04:44.49 | Mood | is ndiswrapper being deprecated? i tried it on my wifi usb stick, and i get a "can't find version of ndiswrapper" |
| 04:45.03 | Mood | and i just installed ndiswrapper-common |
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| 04:46.57 | Mood | do i need to install ndiswrapper-utils as well? |
| 04:47.28 | twadl | d |
| 04:47.47 | tomi | _Pete_ : default svnserve is off? |
| 04:48.15 | _Pete_ | yes |
| 04:48.36 | _Pete_ | you need to setup it like it's on that manual |
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| 04:49.19 | tomi | i need to be sure that svnserv is off all time |
| 04:53.04 | somnambulant | iptables logs appear to only go to /var/log/kern.log in debian? |
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| 04:59.01 | tomi | How i check if svnserv actualy work? |
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| 05:00.58 | r0nin | odd smbd is refusing to start.. |
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| 05:08.36 | jedimindtricks | how do i install this thing |
| 05:08.37 | jedimindtricks | what mode |
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| 05:10.10 | jedimindtricks | why wont this install from a usb stick |
| 05:10.29 | jedimindtricks | it keeps begging for a cd |
| 05:10.34 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: why wont what install? |
| 05:11.06 | jedimindtricks | debian |
| 05:11.32 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: it'll install from a usb stick just fine; you probably haven't read the part of the install guide where it tells you to stick a cd image on the usb stick |
| 05:11.36 | ga_bash | how do we check the installed packaged using apt-get and aptitude... anyone :) |
| 05:11.47 | dondelelcaro | ga_bash: what do you want to check about them? |
| 05:12.22 | jedimindtricks | dondelelcaro what do you think i've booted into here |
| 05:12.23 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, i want to check all the list of packages that are installed |
| 05:12.44 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: uh... if you've booted from a usb stick, you aren't using a cd. |
| 05:12.56 | dondelelcaro | !tell ga_bash -about installed |
| 05:13.09 | jedimindtricks | dondelelcaro yet it is ASKING FOR A CD |
| 05:13.29 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: yes, which usually means that you haven't put a CD image on the usb stick. |
| 05:13.35 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, sorry.. but wht do you mean? |
| 05:13.44 | dondelelcaro | ga_bash: dpkg messaged you with instructions |
| 05:13.56 | jedimindtricks | dondelelcaro so what is giving me the FAIL message? |
| 05:13.57 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, dpkg -L does it |
| 05:14.06 | jedimindtricks | is it magic? |
| 05:14.17 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, but i want to do it with aptitude or apt-get .. is there a command? |
| 05:14.31 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: the initrd on the usb stick, of course. |
| 05:14.41 | dondelelcaro | ga_bash: see what dpkg (the bot) told you. |
| 05:15.39 | jedimindtricks | i used unetbootin to write the image to the usb stick |
| 05:15.51 | jedimindtricks | i stick it in, boot, and it tells me it cant find a cdrom drive |
| 05:16.04 | jedimindtricks | other distros dont have this problem |
| 05:16.34 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, thnx |
| 05:16.43 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: again, you write the usb stick image to the drive, mount it, and stick an iso on it |
| 05:16.53 | ga_bash | hey dondelelcaro aptitude search -F '%p' '~i' can you explain it to me.? :) |
| 05:16.56 | dondelelcaro | jedimindtricks: it's explained in great detail in the install guide |
| 05:17.19 | dondelelcaro | ga_bash: -F just is a format, %p says to output the package name, and ~i is a search command that matches all installed packages |
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| 05:17.54 | dondelelcaro | wonders how much more simple he can make how to install Debian using a usb stick |
| 05:18.49 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, wat is this '~' for.. i see it more often... :P |
| 05:18.57 | ga_bash | in commands |
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| 05:19.11 | dondelelcaro | ga_bash: it's just aptitude's syntax for search terms |
| 05:19.25 | dondelelcaro | ga_bash: see the aptitude manual (not the manpage) for more details |
| 05:19.54 | ga_bash | dondelelcaro, ok thanks buddy :) |
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| 05:31.06 | rexinw | Cannot allocate TUN/TAP dev dynamically, why am i getting this message |
| 05:32.05 | rexinw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/144638/ |
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| 05:37.00 | dondelelcaro | rexinw: what does uname -a; output? Can you modprobe tap; ? |
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| 05:38.57 | rhineheart_m | Can I ask here? I just installed addition NIC... how would I know that debian detects it? |
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| 05:39.59 | WormFood | rhineheart_m, looking at the output of dmesg |
| 05:40.14 | WormFood | you can also try a ifconfig -a |
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| 05:40.48 | rexinw | dondelelcaro, Linux vdebian 2.6.24-19-xen #2 SMP Fri May 23 03:11:08 JST 2008 i686 GNU/Linu |
| 05:40.50 | WormFood | lspci can tell you if the hardware sees it |
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| 05:41.42 | rexinw | modprobe tap, FATAL: Module tap not found. but modprobe tun worked and gets displayed in lsmod |
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| 05:42.34 | rexinw | lsmod output : Module Size Used by |
| 05:42.34 | rexinw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:43.22 | subsume | Debian isn't taking up the whole width of my flat screen TV (HD card out). What can I do about this? |
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| 05:44.05 | rhineheart_m | WormFood, I just tried lspci..want to see the output and could tell me your feedback? |
| 05:44.14 | blindy | how do i get ls to properly sort files?, file - 101 comes before file - 5 because the number begins iwth 1 |
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| 05:45.49 | rhineheart_m | here's it: http://pastebin.ca/1382441 |
| 05:48.00 | WormFood | lspci only tells you if the hardware sees the card |
| 05:48.30 | WormFood | it does not say if Linux will use the card....you need the proper drivers to use the card |
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| 05:48.46 | WormFood | however, if the OS/hardware can't see the card, then of course drivers are moot |
| 05:49.20 | rhineheart_m | WormFood, now..what I would like to use is this: # |
| 05:49.20 | rhineheart_m | 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10) |
| 05:49.38 | rhineheart_m | is that supported by debian? that NIC? |
| 05:49.46 | WormFood | I would expect that to work fine with Linux |
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| 05:50.11 | WormFood | I don't know off hand, but the number looks familiar...I would expect it to be supported |
| 05:50.34 | rhineheart_m | how to determine which of the two cards being used by eth0? |
| 05:51.45 | rhineheart_m | how to determine the MAC address of that card? |
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| 05:54.26 | WormFood | ifconfig will tell you the mac address |
| 05:54.52 | WormFood | to tell which is eth0, then look at dmesg |
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| 06:00.10 | rhineheart_m | WormFood, that's great! I got it.. now.. I have this question.. why is it that my dlink won't show up in ifconfig but in ifconfig -a it would? |
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| 06:01.01 | WormFood | because it is not configured |
| 06:01.09 | WormFood | the -a option shows 'all'...without it, it only shows what is configured |
| 06:01.34 | WormFood | and by "not configured" I mean "down" |
| 06:01.59 | WormFood | without -a ifconfig only shows interfaces that are "up" |
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| 06:04.44 | rhineheart_m | WormFood, so how could I configure it to work? |
| 06:05.10 | WormFood | ifconfig |
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| 06:05.37 | rhineheart_m | what to do with it? |
| 06:05.40 | WormFood | or you could configure the proper file at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 06:06.05 | WormFood | vi, pico, emacs, notepad |
| 06:06.34 | WormFood | if I want to make it long term, I edit the /etc/network/interfaces file....if I'm doing it for short term, I just use ifconfig |
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| 06:10.07 | rhineheart_m | I used to do it with nano |
| 06:13.22 | rhineheart_m | WormFood, thanks be to you.. |
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| 06:15.37 | DavidProck1981 | what is the Lighest lightweight graphal gui there is that debian can download |
| 06:16.10 | DavidProck1981 | is there one lighter than lxde ? |
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| 06:16.52 | DavidProck1981 | light on memory aka fast and small, and good for ppc with 27 mb ram |
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| 06:30.21 | doomster | DavidProck1981: If your "lightweight" starts with a full desktop environment, it just isn't. |
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| 06:31.08 | doomster | You can use just a windowmanager on top of X, and there are several that don't use too many resources. |
| 06:37.19 | klaz168 | DavidProck1981, try twm |
| 06:38.48 | khaije1|w | thats what i don't get... what is good about lxde? most ppl probably either want twm/icewm, xfce, or a full IDE |
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| 06:39.33 | khaije1|w | afaik it doesn't do anything _better_ than a current option |
| 06:40.09 | doomster | I'd say the key point is the 'l'... |
| 06:40.48 | khaije1|w | meh |
| 06:40.56 | doomster | (: |
| 06:41.45 | khaije1|w | i don't mean to rant, but it annoys me because it undervalues the strength and diversity of what is already freakin' there!! |
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| 06:47.10 | mcdaza | Hey all |
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| 06:47.50 | mcdaza | Anyone know if Gnome can be changed so that windows open in the windows web browser style, instead of a new window for each folder? |
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| 06:48.20 | doomster | you mean tabs? |
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| 06:49.12 | doomster | (Note: using windows, window's or MS Windows to disambiguate things would have been helpful...) |
| 06:49.18 | mcdaza | hahaha touche |
| 06:49.32 | mcdaza | I realise how confusing that was |
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| 06:50.07 | mcdaza | Yeah, the Vista/XP style, where opening a folder brings it up in the same window, rather than a new one |
| 06:51.38 | khaije1|w | mcdaza: that can definitely be changed to default, but every distro i've used for the past 3 years has had that as it's default so i forgot how to change it |
| 06:51.55 | khaije1|w | if you can't find an answer here i'm sure you can quickly google it |
| 06:51.57 | Pulpie | ok I have checked the sum of the iso and the disk and they both are good. I put the deb 5 netinst in my dvd tray and power on the machine, the bios is set to read only the cd but I get the following "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" |
| 06:52.24 | Pulpie | other dvds and cds are read by this dvd player including windows, solaris and freebsd, gparted and more. |
| 06:52.37 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: hrm... well, the boot cd certainly is known to work |
| 06:52.47 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: yeah i figured. |
| 06:52.51 | Pulpie | so what is the problem? |
| 06:52.57 | khaije1|w | mcdaza: fwiw they called the 'window for every folder view' spatial-mode you may want to include that term in yr search |
| 06:53.12 | sha16 | Hello all, From this morning when i try to login to my debian, I'm getting an error message telling me that the session lasted less than 10 seconds. and low memory, and there came an alert window showing this error "/etc/gdm/Xsession:Beginning session setupâ¦â¦" how to resolv this? I tried deleting extra stuff.. but no use.. |
| 06:53.13 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: so I'd first lean towards it not being burned properly or some other media issue. Did it actually try to boot off of the cd? |
| 06:53.22 | mcdaza | I did quickly google it, but I couldn't find anything, so I figured I'd ask here. Cheers for the tip, I'll look that up |
| 06:54.09 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: No not really. |
| 06:54.21 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: its burned properly and the image has been checked. |
| 06:54.31 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: does it boot anywhere else? |
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| 06:55.08 | ryanCH | can you update the linux kernel with the package manager, apt-get ?? |
| 06:55.12 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: well i have burned more then one cd from more then one computer, by doing this we can rule out the rare possiblity its the cd |
| 06:55.12 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: the bios is set to boot from cdrom, right? it flashed the "booting from cd" bit, right? |
| 06:55.16 | dondelelcaro | ryanCH: yes. |
| 06:55.16 | doomster | sha16: type 'df' at a command prompt and see if any of your partitions is full. Try e.g. 'apt-get clean' to delete unused packages from APT's cache. |
| 06:55.17 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: of course |
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| 06:55.36 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: i can boot other cds, just not this one |
| 06:55.53 | Pulpie | right now im getting cd1 seeing if that makes a difference |
| 06:56.02 | dondelelcaro | Pulpie: hrm. which image are you using? |
| 06:56.07 | ryanCH | dondelelcaro: how exactly?... |
| 06:56.19 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: please learn to read more when someone posts, i am using the netinst image |
| 06:56.22 | dondelelcaro | ryanCH: the same way you upgrade any other package; you install it. |
| 06:57.00 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; best of luck. |
| 06:57.14 | sha16 | doomster: my debian is installed with netinst and there are no extra unused packages, only some basic apps + FLUXBOX |
| 06:57.23 | Pulpie | dondelelcaro: thanks for wasting my time. |
| 06:58.08 | doomster | sha16: that doesn't uninstall anything but it just deletes a cache of downloaded packages. Those are just downloaded, not installed. |
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| 06:58.50 | doomster | sha16: in any case, you can use 'df' and 'du' to check disk use. |
| 06:59.33 | sha16 | doomster: oh ok, i'll get back after trying that.. thanks for the tip :) |
| 07:00.03 | sha16 | doomster: i use aptitude always, so do i need to try 'aptitude clean' ? |
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| 07:00.21 | dondelelcaro | sha16: doesn't matter |
| 07:00.35 | sha16 | ok, rebooting :) |
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| 07:01.46 | mcdaza | khaije1|w: Cheers for the tip, you had the right keywords |
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| 07:04.08 | Firefishe | What a good command line program for making data dvds? |
| 07:04.37 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: growisofs |
| 07:04.39 | WormFood | mkisofs |
| 07:04.50 | scubacuda | dd ? |
| 07:05.01 | scubacuda | oh...gotta burn it |
| 07:05.04 | scubacuda | that only makes the img |
| 07:05.13 | WormFood | dd is a conversion tool...how is that gonna help? |
| 07:05.42 | dondelelcaro | dd is actually just cat with loads of options |
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| 07:08.46 | Firefishe | Let me try this from a different angle. What, besides `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' can be used to set up a generic xorg.conf? |
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| 07:09.39 | Firefishe | My xorg-conf is toast and for some reason, my kernel won't compile modules correctly anymore. |
| 07:10.08 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: in general, you shouldn't need much of an xorg.conf |
| 07:10.20 | Firefishe | hi dondelelcaro |
| 07:10.41 | DavidProck1981 | any of u have debian on the wii game system ? |
| 07:10.52 | S3v3N | when i log to my own user and write mail it says : there is no new mail for user s3v3n. is the mail installed by default on debian or i did install it one time and i didn't know? |
| 07:10.54 | Firefishe | I just upgraded lenny, dist-upgraded everything, and now my xserver won't work. Was working a couple of days ago, but now it's toast. |
| 07:11.00 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: assuming you're running lenny or later (and don't have an exotic configuration) a nearly blank xorg.conf (or an empty one) will |
| 07:11.28 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: see the output in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what failed |
| 07:11.41 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: I'll go check...one sec. |
| 07:11.44 | Firefishe | thanks :)] |
| 07:12.27 | dondelelcaro | S3v3N: if you have a /var/mail/yourusername; pam_mail.so will output that |
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| 07:13.07 | dondelelcaro | (It may even do so if you don't) |
| 07:13.34 | S3v3N | dondelelcaro: yes but, is this var/mail/myusername installed by default on debian lenny 5.0.0 ? |
| 07:13.58 | S3v3N | and how could i disable that mail or even purge it? |
| 07:14.20 | dondelelcaro | S3v3N: depends on which install. You most likely have exim (or similar) installed and configured as a smarthost or similar |
| 07:14.44 | dondelelcaro | (a "default" install for Debian is kind of a misnomer; there's really no such thing) |
| 07:14.57 | S3v3N | i had net installer debian lenny 5.0.0 and i have just the system without desktop, cauz im using this computer for server |
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| 07:15.36 | S3v3N | and i wonder cauz at beginning i hadn't that mail, 3 days ago mail appeared and i dont know who installed, im the only one who have access |
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| 07:16.09 | dondelelcaro | S3v3N: if you had exim installed and configured, and a system daemon send you mail (from cron, for example), you'd end up with mail. |
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| 07:18.53 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: I've checked /var/log/Xorg.0 and it seems to be a module issue. Thing is, shouldn't I get a list of available cards and drivers from `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ? |
| 07:19.14 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: nope |
| 07:19.32 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: the xserver knows way better than the reconfiguration script which module to use |
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| 07:20.02 | dondelelcaro | (and even then the reconfiguration script was getting too complicated) |
| 07:21.10 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: one other thing, not related to the xserver issue: I have this computer hooked via a dvi cable to a radeon something or other (pardon the lack of specificity) card, and in console mode, the screen winks out, then on, then out, then on again. It's been doing this since I got it. Any ideas off the top of your head? |
| 07:22.15 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: it doesn't do that in X, right? |
| 07:23.01 | Firefishe | no |
| 07:23.13 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: well, sometimes, depending upon what I'm working on |
| 07:23.29 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: when it flashes on and off, does the monitor go into sleep mode? or is it rapid? does it stop doing that? |
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| 07:24.32 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: The flash is intermittent, with no real specific time frame. Generally, it's about every 15 to 30 seconds, but sometimes it blinks more quickly, then settles down again. |
| 07:25.00 | Firefishe | Or, I can be without the blink for 60 seconds or more, then it starts in again. |
| 07:25.32 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: hrm... that's really weird then... you may be able to work around it by using fbdev, but besides that I don't have any good suggestions |
| 07:25.38 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: I've certainly never seen that happen myself |
| 07:27.28 | phantomcircuit | which package would have the opengl headers? |
| 07:27.47 | mcdaza | Second stupid question, how do I get Debian to like daylight savings time? I've checked and libc6 is up to date, so I'd assume it'd update itself, but alas no. I change the time via gnome and it resets itself forward an hour when I reboot. |
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| 07:28.14 | cahoot | hwclock isn't saved? |
| 07:28.17 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: I have a line in the startx output that says no matching device section for instance ... (BUS Id) |
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| 07:28.30 | dondelelcaro | mcdaza: what does date -u; date; output now? |
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| 07:29.09 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: as to the monitor, yeah, it's strange. It's a samsung syncmaster 213T...a bit older, but it works well. 23 inches and it works fine on 'doze, but it still blinks a bit in pre-grub mode. |
| 07:29.38 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: Incidentally, how do I select fbdev? |
| 07:29.42 | mcdaza | dondelcaro: Sun Apr 5 18:29:31 EST 2009 |
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| 07:30.24 | mcdaza | And Sun Apr 5 08:30:19 UTC 2009 |
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| 07:31.06 | subsume | Debian isn't using the full width of my plasma TV. Any idea what I can do about that? |
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| 07:31.48 | dondelelcaro | mcdaza: ok, your clock is one hour off |
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| 07:32.34 | mcdaza | yeah, one hour of daylight savings |
| 07:33.03 | dondelelcaro | Firefishe: see http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.2 for details |
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| 07:33.15 | dondelelcaro | mcdaza: are you by chance running windows on this machine too? |
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| 07:33.53 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: I'm not able to view html right now. I'm also just looking for a quick fix to get my xserver working |
| 07:34.06 | mcdaza | dondelcaro: yep |
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| 07:35.51 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: maybe you can help this way: can you give me a url to wget the old xf86cfg script? |
| 07:37.06 | Firefishe | dondelelcaro: I don't care if it's dodgy, I only know that it worked when I had emergencies like this, and I'm kinda peeved that it's not included as a fallback of some kind with the new releases. |
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| 07:42.01 | cahoot | mcdaza: if you undulate between windows and linux - set your system to use localtime (in /etc/default/rcS) unless already done |
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| 07:42.18 | mcdaza | Ah ok |
| 07:42.24 | ssa | hi i have problem with root password i cannot log as root and i am 100% sure that im set correct password... |
| 07:42.39 | mcdaza | Is there any reason why that is cahoot? |
| 07:42.55 | cahoot | mcdaza: windows uses localtime |
| 07:43.28 | cahoot | mcdaza: UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS |
| 07:43.35 | mcdaza | Gotcha |
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| 07:44.34 | mcdaza | Hmm cahoot that was already set |
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| 07:45.45 | mxmx | hello |
| 07:46.30 | mxmx | i really need some help turing off local_basedir off, apparenty i already edtied 3 phi.ini files but when i check phpinfo, it is still marked as "no value" |
| 07:46.31 | cahoot | mcdaza: try to set correct time with date -s , then hwclock --systohc |
| 07:46.47 | mxmx | er, "open_basedir" |
| 07:47.19 | mcdaza | Ta cahoot |
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| 07:47.25 | mxmx | anyone? |
| 07:47.43 | mcdaza | Setting UTC=yes won't let it auto update, or will Vista nerf that? |
| 07:47.57 | cahoot | no clue wrt vista |
| 07:48.19 | cahoot | maybe it's netaware |
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| 07:48.54 | pif | hi, on one box of my LAN "hostname --fqdn" doen't return the domain parti, where should I look? |
| 07:49.06 | pif | s/parti/part |
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| 07:50.05 | mxmx | . |
| 07:50.14 | mcdaza | Thanks for the advice cahoot, solved the problem. Twas just wondering if there was a more elegant fix, but next time DST rolls around I might set UTC=yes and see how that runs |
| 07:50.58 | ssa | anyone can me help to install nVidia graphic dirvers ? :) |
| 07:51.19 | pif | found, /etc/hosts error |
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| 07:56.08 | Jemt | ssa: It's quite easy. Did you try it your self ? |
| 07:57.07 | ssa | Jemt: yes |
| 07:57.23 | Jemt | ssa: What problems did you run into? What have you done so far ? |
| 07:57.40 | Jemt | What driver have you downloaded? What graphics card do you have ? |
| 07:58.09 | Jemt | BRB |
| 07:58.24 | ssa | Jemt: nVidia drivers -> 8600 GT -> i am little confuse what i must add into sources list |
| 07:59.39 | uNkind | . |
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| 08:01.44 | mcdaza | ssa: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Should answer your questions |
| 08:01.59 | mcdaza | AFAIK you can use apt to grab the drivers which should make life much easier |
| 08:02.07 | mcdaza | unlike ati, which were a pain |
| 08:02.54 | ssa | i am so happy that i dont have ati |
| 08:04.02 | streuner__ | remembers years ago, to set up videocards you had to read plenty of docs first :-) |
| 08:04.14 | mcdaza | praises apt |
| 08:04.33 | streuner__ | nowadays its just easy |
| 08:05.00 | mcdaza | Hehe, I'm a recent convert, though I do remember it took me a while to get some stuff working |
| 08:05.03 | streuner__ | and you have i-net and all infos you need |
| 08:05.27 | mcdaza | yeah, online documentation is brilliant |
| 08:05.41 | bpun | documentation is the bomb bitches |
| 08:05.43 | bpun | :) |
| 08:06.03 | bpun | rtfm!! |
| 08:06.05 | bpun | jk |
| 08:06.08 | bpun | haha |
| 08:06.09 | mcdaza | Though sometimes it's great to talk to people, cuz they can point you in the right direction and give you the keywords you need |
| 08:06.26 | bpun | mcdaza, like RFTM!! :) |
| 08:06.27 | streuner__ | yeah, that too |
| 08:06.28 | ssa | aaah ubuntu makes from me a lazy noob |
| 08:06.51 | mcdaza | Always appreciated when someone can tell you exactly which page out of 600 you need to look at, saves a bit of work |
| 08:07.06 | streuner__ | bpun: it isnt a bad thing IMHO ;-) |
| 08:08.14 | bpun | streuner__, yep.. the debian docs are great.. i never got hooked with 'em debian wiki's as lenny seems pretty stable... way lenny!! |
| 08:08.18 | streuner__ | bpun: example, to set up a MTA its (almost) not possible to read docs... |
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| 08:08.38 | bpun | streuner__, finding clear docs for sendmail is a real bitch... |
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| 08:09.07 | streuner__ | bpun: without* |
| 08:09.14 | bpun | streuner__, some guru told me about make -C and using sendmail.mc .. something like that... |
| 08:10.18 | bpun | streuner__, u use the make command for sendmail? |
| 08:10.59 | bpun | streuner__, i find it tedious to understand .cf ... i guess it takes time for newbs like me in sendmail to understand the basic syntax and defns |
| 08:11.33 | ssa | i think i dont have good edited sources -_- |
| 08:11.39 | bpun | but once setup.. its very stable.. and works great |
| 08:12.05 | bpun | all thanks to 'em bitch docs :) |
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| 08:12.48 | mcdaza | Debian wiki is a clear winner |
| 08:12.58 | ssa | i just added to end of line "contrib non-free" but i dont think its good -__ |
| 08:13.07 | bpun | ssa, it is |
| 08:13.16 | bpun | ssa, i believe... |
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| 08:13.47 | mxmx | how do I update mysql in my server? |
| 08:13.55 | ssa | but for all line ? |
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| 08:14.02 | bpun | ssa, run apt-get update and see if any new things are being added to catalog |
| 08:14.08 | streuner__ | mxmx: lenny? |
| 08:14.14 | mxmx | etchj |
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| 08:14.18 | mxmx | er, etch |
| 08:14.19 | bpun | ssa, mine looks like ;deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free' |
| 08:14.24 | mxmx | hmm wait |
| 08:14.39 | bpun | ("deb http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free") |
| 08:14.41 | streuner__ | mxmx: do you have a security line in sources.list? |
| 08:14.44 | ssa | bpun: thank you man |
| 08:15.10 | mxmx | not usre how can i find out? |
| 08:15.16 | bpun | ssa, i did a new install.. but i used the netinst cd installer.. dunno if this was the reason.. but that line i added 'contrib non-free'... |
| 08:15.33 | streuner__ | mxmx: /msg dpkg security |
| 08:15.50 | ssa | bpun: i used netinstall too |
| 08:16.06 | bpun | ssa, if u navigate via the web u'd see there are those two folders to confirm .. but I believe the Packages.gz has things for those two folders.. i speculate i was able to resolve certain package dependencies using those ... |
| 08:16.13 | streuner__ | mxmx: etch is supported till february 2010 |
| 08:16.22 | mxmx | 2.6.18-6-686 |
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| 08:16.42 | streuner__ | hm? |
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| 08:17.41 | S3v3N | why do i have "Mail" folder at my own user on debian? For answers thanks in advance. |
| 08:18.05 | mcdaza | While I'm here anyone know if flash can be improved in iceweasel? Anything that's flash intensive works, but not quite perfectly. I've followed everything on the debian wiki page re installing/updating |
| 08:18.19 | streuner | ask adobe |
| 08:18.20 | mxmx | how can I find out what version i have? |
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| 08:18.36 | streuner | mxmx: version of what? |
| 08:18.41 | mxmx | debian |
| 08:18.56 | ssa | uname -r |
| 08:18.59 | bpun | mcdaza, just uninstall the default and use the proprietary... |
| 08:19.02 | streuner | !version |
| 08:19.03 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
| 08:19.20 | bpun | mcdaza, unfortunately until cheap adobe makes it open source |
| 08:19.29 | mxmx | so my kernel is 2.6.18-6-666 |
| 08:19.33 | mcdaza | ahhh ok |
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| 08:19.49 | mxmx | debian is 40 |
| 08:19.51 | mxmx | 4.0 |
| 08:19.51 | mcdaza | I'll go investigate. Twas hoping that wouldn't be necessary |
| 08:19.58 | bpun | ssa, i'm also using this- >"deb http://debian.dc-uoit.net/debian-multimedia/ stable main" .. somewhere online it tells u hwo to import the keyring.. |
| 08:20.03 | streuner | mxmx: sure, thats prolly etch |
| 08:20.08 | mxmx | yeah |
| 08:20.12 | mxmx | so i am still on etch |
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| 08:20.19 | mxmx | anyways can I still update mysql? |
| 08:20.27 | streuner | mxmx: sure |
| 08:20.48 | streuner | as we already told you, just add a security line into your sources.list |
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| 08:20.56 | mxmx | i think its added |
| 08:20.57 | mxmx | let em check |
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| 08:21.20 | ssa | is this correct command ? m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel$2.6.26-1-amd64-source |
| 08:21.38 | bpun | i have a security line! -> "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
| 08:21.39 | bpun | " |
| 08:22.06 | mxmx | deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 08:22.13 | mxmx | corrcect? |
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| 08:22.36 | streuner | !security |
| 08:22.37 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security><testing security><unstable security>. |
| 08:22.40 | mcdaza | I think this is my last question (hahaha). I have a lot of music stored on my windows partition, is there anyway I can listen to this in linux without copying it all over to the linux partition? |
| 08:22.59 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:23.09 | mxmx | so run aptitue update |
| 08:23.09 | streuner | mxmx: yes and no |
| 08:23.14 | bpun | he streuner why did my netinst not include "contrib non-free" for my sources.list lines? |
| 08:23.21 | mxmx | ttoo late |
| 08:23.24 | bpun | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.24 | mxmx | i a running it ;) |
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| 08:23.32 | streuner | bpun: read DFSG :-) |
| 08:23.41 | mxmx | its done |
| 08:23.43 | mxmx | now? |
| 08:23.59 | ssa | flashplugin-nonfree is not in repo ? -_- |
| 08:24.06 | streuner | bpun: Debian prefers free and open sources (DFSG)... |
| 08:24.14 | bpun | streuner, ah.. hehehe |
| 08:24.26 | mxmx | streuner? |
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| 08:24.38 | batcoder-7 | What dpi is your guys mouses? |
| 08:24.45 | mxmx | MICE |
| 08:24.46 | mxmx | mi ce |
| 08:24.57 | streuner | mxmx: yes, if you did what "security" factoid told you |
| 08:24.59 | mxmx | batcoder-7 I hope u dont live in the US :0 |
| 08:25.02 | bpun | those mozilla bastards.. what's so scary about a different icon* sigh.. |
| 08:25.12 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, why? |
| 08:25.22 | mxmx | casue u arent supposed to say mouse |
| 08:25.25 | mxmx | *mouses |
| 08:25.32 | mxmx | streuner i am confused |
| 08:25.41 | ssa | i dont have flashplugin on repo xD |
| 08:25.45 | bpun | ssa, flash adobe? |
| 08:26.01 | ssa | flashplugin-nonfree yes |
| 08:26.27 | bpun | streuner, i also have this line-> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main ... do i append to this too? |
| 08:27.04 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, mice i am sorry :) |
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| 08:27.11 | batcoder-7 | and i am in the usa |
| 08:27.17 | mxmx | shame shame |
| 08:27.23 | mxmx | were u born in the US? |
| 08:27.46 | mcdaza | blergh, pesky adobe, no amd64 version in the .deb file for flash 10 |
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| 08:28.17 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, yes i was mice mice mice but mice makes it seem to much like the animal mxmx |
| 08:28.24 | ssa | adobe is microsoft moloch -_- |
| 08:28.25 | streuner | bpun: i dont know what volatile is for at all, i had a line for clamav years ago... |
| 08:28.47 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, where you located? |
| 08:28.51 | mxmx | Mexico |
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| 08:28.58 | batcoder-7 | what part |
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| 08:29.03 | mxmx | Monterrey |
| 08:29.04 | mxmx | nearby |
| 08:29.07 | mxmx | small twon |
| 08:29.11 | mxmx | i connect dialup |
| 08:29.14 | mxmx | j/k |
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| 08:29.28 | mxmx | streuner? |
| 08:29.48 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, isee |
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| 08:30.15 | mxmx | ok can anyone help me update mysql in debian etch? |
| 08:30.18 | bpun | ssa, the flash version i have is Version: 10.0.22.87-1 |
| 08:30.18 | bpun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:30.58 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, use lenny |
| 08:31.09 | mxmx | i'd need to upgrade |
| 08:31.12 | mxmx | me dunnno how |
| 08:31.19 | mxmx | and i ahve 9 sites in the server |
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| 08:31.23 | mxmx | dont wanna mess it up |
| 08:31.28 | Jaleks | mxmx: where starts the 'dunno'? |
| 08:31.35 | bpun | ssa, dpkg -l |grep swf or dpkg -l |grep flash ... and uninstall the default.. then install adobe's doing-> #dpkg -i <adobe's.deb> |
| 08:31.50 | streuner | bpun: hm, that makes sense... - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianVolatile |
| 08:32.00 | mxmx | don't know where it starts |
| 08:32.38 | streuner | bpun: its to get packages which have to change very often (virus scanner), if i unterstood it correctly |
| 08:32.44 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, in the english language you never refer to yourself as me only I unless sory telling in a 3rd person realting yourself to another person ;) |
| 08:32.56 | mxmx | nuh hh |
| 08:32.58 | mxmx | you didn't! |
| 08:33.07 | Jaleks | mxmx: well, at least you can type ;-) do you know what a package manager is? |
| 08:33.10 | bpun | streuner, "Some packages aim at fast moving targets" << what do they mean fast moving targets? |
| 08:33.12 | mxmx | it wa Tarzan talk |
| 08:33.23 | batcoder-7 | mxmx, that it is |
| 08:33.32 | mxmx | no Jaleks I know very basic linux |
| 08:33.39 | batcoder-7 | just kidding and upgrading is easy |
| 08:33.49 | Jaleks | bpun: e.g. data for virus scanners |
| 08:33.56 | batcoder-7 | and it should not mess anything up hopefully not anyways |
| 08:34.11 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:34.23 | Jaleks | mxmx: so you never installed anything on the box manually, like this sounds? |
| 08:34.32 | mxmx | change all teh words etch to lenny? |
| 08:34.34 | bpun | Jaleks, how does "fast moving targets" translate to "virus scanning data" << makes no sense.. |
| 08:34.39 | mxmx | Jaleks yes |
| 08:34.50 | mxmx | i isntalled a lot of stuff for a tubesite |
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| 08:35.32 | mxmx | so |
| 08:35.41 | bpun | Jaleks, so i guess there's probably no contrib and non-free to the volatile apt repo... even though i just added it.. |
| 08:35.44 | bloopletech_ | How do I install the openssl headers on debian? |
| 08:35.57 | bloopletech_ | There seems to be no openssl-dev or openssl-devel package |
| 08:36.08 | mxmx | Jaleks are you gonna be so nice as to tell me hwo to upgrade to lenny?> |
| 08:36.51 | bpun | yep.. i did an apt-get update- > "Get:30 http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/contrib Sources [14B]" .. tada |
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| 08:37.41 | bloopletech_ | And I cant find any similair pacakge on packages.debian.org |
| 08:37.41 | bpun | interesting what could i be using int he contrib non-free for volatile? some of symantec's data? |
| 08:37.54 | bpun | bloopletech_, i'll look |
| 08:38.03 | bloopletech_ | bpun: thanks |
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| 08:38.23 | bpun | bloopletech_, i found |
| 08:38.23 | bpun | libssl-dev |
| 08:38.36 | mxmx | zzzzzzzzz |
| 08:38.38 | bloopletech_ | bpun: thanks! I'll try that |
| 08:39.03 | hundfred | i killed my luks-encrypted partition while installing debian lenny, this installer doesn't really ask, on which disk it will install grub. i am really pissed now, |
| 08:39.13 | streuner | mxmx: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 08:39.17 | mxmx | ok |
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| 08:39.40 | Jaleks | mxmx: the short answer would be: yes, replace 'etch' with 'lenny' in /etc/apt/source.list and start `apt-get dist-upgrade` as root |
| 08:40.20 | bpun | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.49 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:40.53 | bpun | i have a situation with reportbug |
| 08:41.36 | Jaleks | bpun: i dont really know about volatile non-free/contrib only things i receive from it where clam-updates and pthe last pidgin version, if that helps... |
| 08:41.36 | mxmx | i am updating etch first |
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| 08:41.41 | bpun | i'd like to use my isp's smtp.. reportbug fails when it tries to send my reportbug -- (my isp doesn't use encryption with smtp-- and reportbug says it fails on auth_ |
| 08:41.46 | at0m|c | mxmx: or rather, apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 08:41.46 | at0m|c | yea |
| 08:41.48 | mxmx | running aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 08:42.10 | bpun | Jaleks, pidgin!? huh... that's weird.. |
| 08:42.22 | mxmx | hmm |
| 08:42.23 | mxmx | A new version of configuration file /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf is â |
| 08:42.23 | mxmx | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.31 | mxmx | shoudl I keep it for now? |
| 08:42.40 | Jaleks | mxmx: yes |
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| 08:42.52 | bpun | Jaleks, must be that evil hackers working hard in trying to exploit it... |
| 08:42.53 | mxmx | done |
| 08:42.58 | mxmx | now time to upgrade to nelly |
| 08:43.04 | debianix | hi, can anyone help me with this |
| 08:43.09 | debianix | ::: ENLIGHTENMENT ERROR ::: |
| 08:43.09 | debianix | Enlightenment cannot initialize its X connection. |
| 08:43.09 | debianix | Have you set your display variable? |
| 08:43.09 | debianix | E17: Begin shutdown procedure! |
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| 08:43.11 | bpun | mxmx, no.. it's lenny :) |
| 08:43.11 | powerpeecee | hi, i just did a fresh install of debian lenny on my iMac powerpc g3, but i'm confused about how to activate ALSA sound. googling turns up a variety of ALSA-related modules. which ones do i need to install? i can hear beeps, but not music (mp3 files - i've installed the restricted codec) |
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| 08:43.27 | bpun | lol.. please tell me u misspelled that |
| 08:43.32 | mxmx | hmm |
| 08:43.35 | mxmx | i got an email |
| 08:43.42 | mxmx | he service 'proftpd' on server server.myserver.com is currently down |
| 08:43.42 | cahoot | powerpeecee: run speaker-test -t wav -c2 in a terminal |
| 08:43.46 | xr | hi,how can modify characters of debian boot kernel in size more small or more great? |
| 08:44.02 | mxmx | its Nelly! damn it |
| 08:44.13 | powerpeecee | cahoot: speaker-test not found |
| 08:44.29 | cahoot | powerpeecee: aptitude install alsa-utils |
| 08:44.36 | mxmx | Jaleks did u read what i typeed up there? |
| 08:44.46 | powerpeecee | cahoot: do i need alsa-base, alsa-oss, and alsa? |
| 08:44.48 | bpun | xr, use vga=ask.... pick a res... that res goes to grub's conf like this (add to kernel boot line -> vga=0x"value u chose" -> eg: vga=0x317 ... ) |
| 08:44.51 | Jaleks | mxmx: the new config file which would be installed should be placed besides your version as /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf.dpkg-dist so you can check differneces later |
| 08:44.58 | cahoot | powerpeecee: start with alsa-utils |
| 08:44.59 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:45.00 | bpun | xr, it works across many distros... |
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| 08:45.07 | at0m|c | mxmx: i'd advise on showing the differences between both dpkg and installed .conf files, then deceide for yourself to keep and/or manually edit the files |
| 08:45.12 | mxmx | but my proftp isnt really down right? since all my sites are working |
| 08:45.12 | bpun | xr, u can then get graphics in console :) |
| 08:45.15 | powerpeecee | cahoot: ok |
| 08:45.24 | cahoot | powerpeecee: modern kernels include alsa |
| 08:45.37 | powerpeecee | i'm using lenny |
| 08:46.27 | Jaleks | mxmx: i personally dont know much about proftp, sorry |
| 08:46.27 | powerpeecee | but i didn't install the "standard system" .. just the basic one |
| 08:46.27 | cahoot | good |
| 08:46.27 | mxmx | its ok |
| 08:46.27 | bpun | anyone else who ever uses vga= on kernel's bootline? |
| 08:46.27 | Jaleks | bpun: the evil hackers which reacted promptly to the change in the icq protocoll, yes |
| 08:46.27 | xr | bpun: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=0x317 |
| 08:46.28 | Jaleks | bpun: daily |
| 08:46.32 | bpun | xr, dont use 317... that's an example that works on my system... |
| 08:46.37 | bpun | xr, use vga=ask... |
| 08:47.03 | at0m|c | mxmx: disregard these emails for now, all updated services will be restarted and hence down once at least (but brought back up) |
| 08:47.04 | bpun | xr, dont need to edit it.. on the first bootup.. hit 'e' for a temporary appending to bootline... check out google for more info.. |
| 08:47.10 | bpun | !vga=ask |
| 08:47.22 | powerpeecee | cahoot: i'm getting a lot of errors after installing alsa-utils and running speaker-test |
| 08:47.45 | powerpeecee | looks like a lot of "unknown PCM default" errors |
| 08:47.45 | mxmx | at0m|c: thanks |
| 08:47.47 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:47.50 | cahoot | powerpeecee: might show the errors on a pastebin |
| 08:47.53 | mxmx | cahnged all the ekywrods from etch to lenny |
| 08:48.26 | Jaleks | xr: http://t.jalsti.de/faaa |
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| 08:48.41 | Jaleks | xr: short list of resolutions |
| 08:48.50 | xr | ok |
| 08:48.52 | mxmx | Jaleks now i shoudl run aptitude update correct? |
| 08:48.58 | bpun | xr, but u got the right syntax... u have to find the value that follows "0x" |
| 08:49.25 | bpun | xr, u can find the value by letting the scan run after "vga=ask" is being used.. |
| 08:49.38 | Jaleks | mxmx: uh, indeed that should give you the list of update packages before you start the dist-upgrade :-/ |
| 08:49.43 | cahoot | powerpeecee: BTW user is member of audio group? |
| 08:49.45 | bpun | xr, "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=ask" |
| 08:49.49 | xr | ok |
| 08:49.56 | buntfalke | Does the experimental kopete package include jingle support? |
| 08:49.57 | xr | and reboot? |
| 08:50.09 | bpun | xr, if u're having trouble hitting or breaking in with 'e' on grub's bootup |
| 08:50.12 | powerpeecee | cahoot: not sure what that means... i don't have an audio group on my system |
| 08:50.19 | powerpeecee | cahoot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/144760/ |
| 08:50.26 | mxmx | Fetched 8119kB in 4s (1685kB/s) |
| 08:50.26 | mxmx | Reading package lists... Done |
| 08:50.27 | mxmx | yay |
| 08:50.30 | Jaleks | bpun: i dont ever get good results with 'ask' just some weird, still too large, resolutions,; do i have to make some special config to get it really working? |
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| 08:50.39 | cahoot | powerpeecee: well you need that to be able to use soundapps |
| 08:50.48 | Jaleks | mxmx: now dist-upgrade |
| 08:50.49 | ssa | i cannot set my nvidia graphic card working x( |
| 08:50.52 | mxmx | hmm |
| 08:50.54 | mxmx | and aptitude install aptitude? |
| 08:50.58 | mxmx | not yet? |
| 08:51.05 | ssa | i am stuck on step3 by debian guide |
| 08:51.09 | powerpeecee | cahoot: oh. is there a good site that walks through how to do that? |
| 08:51.22 | bpun | Jaleks, i guess it comes down to what type of video card and what support is compiled into the kernel.. |
| 08:51.38 | bpun | Jaleks, its for the console only though.. which im sure u know .. |
| 08:52.08 | bpun | Jaleks, if it's X.. check for any 'fx' or advanced setting to set fonts to '96 dpi' |
| 08:52.17 | bpun | Jaleks, is it X or console giving the problem? |
| 08:52.28 | mxmx | Jaleks: Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] |
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| 08:52.58 | Jaleks | bpun: console, but the vga with a fixed value works fine - just wondered if 'ask' works fine for anybody |
| 08:53.12 | mxmx | its askign me if i wanna keep certain apckages at current version |
| 08:53.29 | bpun | Jaleks, on the latest distros i've tried.. from suse, debian and fedora.. i can set vga=ask .. and the kernel probes without issues... |
| 08:53.43 | Jaleks | mxmx: i would update every possible package, leaving the old config files untouched for now |
| 08:53.51 | bpun | Jaleks, must be something to do with incompatible routines for that particular hardware.. |
| 08:54.09 | mxmx | so i dont accept the solution? |
| 08:54.24 | cahoot | powerpeecee: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/linaccounts (one of several google hits) |
| 08:54.32 | Jaleks | bpun: probably. still it is working on some way, but it does not give any 'good' resolutions like at least 1024 |
| 08:54.57 | mxmx | Jaleks: http://pastebin.ca/1382496 |
| 08:54.58 | Jaleks | mxmx: you accept it, just the config file should be kept if asked |
| 08:55.07 | bpun | Jaleks, did u select to have it contine for more scans? |
| 08:55.27 | Jaleks | mxmx: handle the config files later if you have any problems or are interested in seeing what changed |
| 08:55.34 | mxmx | ok |
| 08:55.39 | powerpeecee | cahoot: i think i may have screwed something. i just ran a sudo alsaconf, and i get a "unloading ALSA sound driver modules"... messages |
| 08:56.13 | bpun | mxmx, openssh-blacklist-extra [0.4.1 (testing)] << "testing" |
| 08:56.20 | ssa | anyone can help me ? x( |
| 08:56.26 | mxmx | ? |
| 08:56.28 | Jaleks | bpun: yes, only more silly resolution ideas - and that on every box i tried this with many differnet graphic cards also |
| 08:56.48 | bpun | Jaleks, what kernel 2.6 latests ? |
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| 08:57.21 | Jaleks | bpun: with the latest i did not try again, no |
| 08:57.27 | gimmal | anyone else having trouble getting e16-gnome session to work right under gdm on lenny? |
| 08:57.30 | mxmx | i got E: Failed to fetch ftp://85.17.159.15/debian/pool/main/d/db/libdb4.6_4.6.21-8_i386.deb: Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/pool/main/d/db/libdb4.6_4.6.21-8_i386.deb: No such file or directory ' |
| 08:57.32 | bloopletech_ | when you install debian, does it install any kind of firewall by default? |
| 08:57.36 | bpun | Jaleks, so i guess it was with 2.4 ... that could be a prob :) |
| 08:57.41 | gimmal | it looks like it doesn't start everything it's supposed to - worked alright on etch |
| 08:58.11 | Jaleks | mxmx: difficult to give correct hints here, it's a decision of what you want. if you dont accept the solution it will try to give you another (and another and another...) |
| 08:58.14 | nsadmin | gimmal: where did this e16 gnome session come from? |
| 08:58.17 | shams | sometimes i want to download a file with static address. but i cant use -c switch for that. can you help me? |
| 08:58.19 | gimmal | bloopletch_: well, i don't think iptables gets installed with the basic default, and even it was installed, you'd have to configure it |
| 08:58.20 | mxmx | ok done |
| 08:58.23 | lonix | how do i fix a bad superblock |
| 08:58.30 | mxmx | Jaleks what s next? |
| 08:58.35 | gimmal | nsadmin: it's one of the options for session-type from the gdm main window |
| 08:58.39 | nsadmin | maybe copy from a superblock backup |
| 08:58.54 | lonix | nsadmin: where do i find one? |
| 08:59.04 | Jaleks | bpun: 2.4, yes and than thought 'crap option, will not try again' ;-) |
| 08:59.07 | bloopletech_ | gimmal: thanks, I'm just trying to get the virtualbox nat working so I can access my debian box from windows |
| 08:59.08 | ssa | anyone can help me with my graphic card ? :( |
| 08:59.22 | nsadmin | many partition type formatters will place several superblock backups |
| 08:59.29 | lonix | _where_ |
| 08:59.31 | nsadmin | I don't personally know how to find them |
| 08:59.33 | lonix | bah |
| 08:59.38 | Jaleks | mxmx: when you accepte a solution it should install at the moment? |
| 08:59.52 | mxmx | yeah finished |
| 08:59.54 | nsadmin | perhaps if you read up you can find one |
| 08:59.57 | bpun | Jaleks, it's very easy to do.. u can even do graphics in console.. there's w3m and i think elinks2 that does web graphics... |
| 09:00.03 | nsadmin | I mean... |
| 09:00.03 | mxmx | it dist all |
| 09:00.10 | lonix | i will never use XFS again. ;/ |
| 09:00.12 | Jaleks | ssa: did you try the nvidia drivers of nvidia? |
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| 09:00.14 | nsadmin | look at it this way,,, it's either me or you:) |
| 09:00.25 | gimmal | bloopletech: ahh, virtualbox nat with linux as a guest on windows .. can't remember exactly how it works but iirc there's a way you can set up the virtualbox session kind of thing (thorugh the admin GUI) so that it defines a tap interface, such that i guess transparently does nat |
| 09:00.27 | mxmx | Jaleks yea its finished, whats the enxt step? |
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| 09:00.51 | bloopletech_ | gimmal: tehy changed it so you don't have to do that tap stuff AFAIK |
| 09:00.52 | Jaleks | bpun: where links2 only supports graphics in the gui, but at least frames |
| 09:00.56 | shams | i have a direct access to a file with http:// but i can't continue downloading of it with -c switch in wget command. can you tell me why? |
| 09:01.00 | gimmal | bloopletech: i see, cool |
| 09:01.11 | ssa | Jaleks: i tried only debian guide and i am now stuck on configuring X server...theres no Module section or i dont know :X...and this command doesnt work...dont shows nothing glxinfo |grep rendering |
| 09:01.17 | nsadmin | so as other file system types give you trouble, they'll get on your list of never use em... pretty soon they'll be all gone... then what? no linux? |
| 09:01.21 | bloopletech_ | gimmal: it sets up NAT by default then you enable portforwarding |
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| 09:01.53 | bloopletech_ | gimmal: but the portforwarding is failing for me atm |
| 09:02.18 | Jaleks | mxmx: if you did an update of the package list, told apt about it ('update') and made the dist-upgrade you should be on lenny - only that the time was a bit short, i would think |
| 09:02.38 | mxmx | why was it short? |
| 09:02.44 | mxmx | casue of the download time? |
| 09:03.14 | ssa | !flash |
| 09:03.15 | dpkg | flash is probably frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 09:04.21 | mxmx | Jaleks i ran aptitude update and then aptitude dist-upgrade, only those two |
| 09:04.40 | Jaleks | ssa: sorry, i dont know the guide, i just downloaded from nvidia (http://t.jalsti.de/gaaa) started the package and it configured X automatically (after asking if it should to) |
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| 09:04.59 | nsadmin | if you're going to let being offered the manual and having to read it cause you to not use something... perhaps you don't want to use linux, as it requires its users and especially installers and maintainers -- which you are if you have your own installation -- to put time into reading and learning |
| 09:05.31 | mxmx | was that for me? |
| 09:05.32 | mxmx | ouch |
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| 09:06.02 | nsadmin | no :) not specifically... you don't like reading too :) |
| 09:06.10 | bpun | ssa, i already told ya.. |
| 09:06.12 | mxmx | :( |
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| 09:06.21 | gimmal | ahah the e16-gnome session available with gdm most technically comes from /usr/share/xsessions/e16-gnome.desktop - this helps, towards figuring out what it's trying to run and why that's not working |
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| 09:06.30 | ssa | bpun: about what ? |
| 09:06.51 | nsadmin | I guess that's if you have enlighntenment version 16? |
| 09:06.56 | bpun | ssa, i'll check smthing |
| 09:07.30 | nsadmin | mxmx: that wasn't aimed at you |
| 09:07.31 | gimmal | nsadmin: well i'm not sure where it comes from, but i bet dlocate is ... |
| 09:07.43 | mxmx | i know i was kiddin :) |
| 09:07.49 | gimmal | nsadmin: I guess so, it comes from e16-data package |
| 09:07.55 | Jaleks | mxmx: try `cat /etc/debian_version`, should say 5.0 |
| 09:07.57 | nsadmin | probably it has that session type by default |
| 09:08.02 | mxmx | and for nto readign, ithink i skipped a step |
| 09:08.11 | mxmx | i am runnin aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude |
| 09:08.13 | mxmx | then dist again |
| 09:08.13 | bpun | ssa, so did u uninstall the other flash apps? (like swfdec) |
| 09:08.28 | nsadmin | before you do that... |
| 09:08.47 | nsadmin | well install those things first. you trying to upgrade to lenny? |
| 09:08.51 | mxmx | yeah |
| 09:08.57 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 09:09.03 | ssa | bpun: ah about flash...no...i must restarted X...and then i checked that i dont have enabled histoy so i dont remember your command x( |
| 09:09.05 | bpun | ssa, the exact procedure may vary.. but |
| 09:09.05 | mxmx | i already updated etch, then cahnged etch to lenny in soruce.code |
| 09:09.33 | nsadmin | so the install guide says somethign about making sure aptitude doesn't have anything on its queue to do |
| 09:10.10 | bpun | ssa, yeah.. it says .deb for ubuntu from the download site.. but that works fine... |
| 09:10.11 | nsadmin | so etch is the latest now... and you changed sources.list? |
| 09:10.23 | mxmx | Jaleks i am doign somethign worng , cause it still says 4.0 |
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| 09:10.36 | mxmx | nsadmin etch was the latest |
| 09:10.37 | nsadmin | so the very next thing to do is install the -lenny- dpkg, apt, aptitude |
| 09:10.45 | nsadmin | ok good |
| 09:10.48 | mxmx | then i changed etch to lenny in soource.list |
| 09:10.49 | Jaleks | mxmx: did you /msg dpkg etch->lenny ? |
| 09:11.05 | mxmx | yes Jaleks but it ahs differnt insturctions and confusing oens |
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| 09:11.10 | ssa | bpun: thank you very much |
| 09:11.35 | nsadmin | well you have to aptitude update after changing sources.list |
| 09:11.51 | mxmx | did |
| 09:11.54 | mxmx | let me redo it |
| 09:12.07 | nsadmin | then aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude |
| 09:12.08 | mxmx | done |
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| 09:12.14 | ssa | bpun: first i need to remove swfdec ? |
| 09:12.28 | mxmx | done |
| 09:12.30 | bpun | ssa, dunno.. i have libswf which is fine |
| 09:12.40 | mxmx | now? |
| 09:12.45 | nsadmin | yea |
| 09:12.49 | bpun | ssa, do a -> dpkg -l |grep swf |
| 09:12.51 | mxmx | whats next? |
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| 09:13.06 | nsadmin | so in other words the first lenny thing to install is those things |
| 09:13.07 | bpun | ssa, find out if ur using a non adobe plugin.. |
| 09:13.32 | ssa | no default |
| 09:13.33 | mxmx | huh -uh |
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| 09:13.49 | bpun | nsadmin, well download the deb and dpkg -i it.. |
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| 09:14.04 | bpun | nsadmin, then type 'about:plugins' in the firefox url box |
| 09:14.11 | nsadmin | why? no net? |
| 09:14.24 | mxmx | nsadmin whats the enxt step after aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude? |
| 09:14.45 | nsadmin | then I think you go into aptitude and see if it has stuff to do |
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| 09:14.58 | nsadmin | which it might |
| 09:15.03 | mxmx | hmmm |
| 09:15.11 | mxmx | ? aptitude |
| 09:15.17 | bpun | ssa, sorry i meant to type it to ya |
| 09:15.18 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 09:15.19 | mightyjoe | Hi all, is there a default way to get my Intel Pro Wireless card working ? |
| 09:15.19 | bpun | ^^ |
| 09:15.34 | mxmx | how do i go into aptitude? |
| 09:15.37 | ssa | how to install .deb packages ? i forgot -_- |
| 09:15.44 | ssa | bpun: you need output ? |
| 09:15.48 | bpun | ssa, no |
| 09:15.49 | nsadmin | ssa: dpkg --help\ |
| 09:15.57 | ssa | ok thank you |
| 09:16.01 | mightyjoe | dpkg -i something.deb |
| 09:16.02 | dpkg | removes a liver from mightyjoe and replaces it with something.deb |
| 09:16.23 | bpun | ssa, if succesful, then no error messages displays |
| 09:16.34 | ssa | just open it in archive manager |
| 09:16.49 | mightyjoe | Can someone help me install my wireless drivers? |
| 09:16.50 | bpun | ssa, echo $? << can tell the return result ... if ur curious.. |
| 09:17.01 | bpun | (for scripting purposes) |
| 09:17.18 | mxmx | nsadmin how do i go into aptiteu? |
| 09:17.21 | mxmx | *aptitude |
| 09:17.33 | ssa | bpun: my wrong it works now |
| 09:17.34 | nsadmin | just type: aptitude |
| 09:17.38 | bpun | mxmx, type 'aptitude update' first.. then run the program |
| 09:17.47 | bpun | ssa, about:plugins says adobe? |
| 09:17.53 | simonrvn | or aptitude -u |
| 09:18.05 | ssa | but grrrr theres no adobe player for amd64 ? |
| 09:18.12 | simonrvn | it'll update on start ;). |
| 09:18.17 | bpun | ssa, y.. there's a beta.. |
| 09:18.20 | mxmx | i am in aptitude |
| 09:18.22 | nsadmin | but you should look in the lenny release notes and find the step where you are |
| 09:18.28 | nsadmin | it'll tell you what to do |
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| 09:18.52 | ssa | bpun: because i downloaded i386 and error said the worng architecture |
| 09:19.15 | bpun | ssa, probably it's past beta.. but here's the beta i saw about 64 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ |
| 09:19.38 | ssa | but whats happend with flashplugin nonfree....he works good ! x( |
| 09:19.49 | mxmx | ha i dont wven know waht kind of architecture i have |
| 09:19.58 | ShishKabab | Hello. My ISP has blocked access to my newsreader in Holland (I'm Dutch). I have a server in and I'd like to have all the incoming traffic on port 54792 (for example) to be forwarded to port 563 of the unreachable server. Could anyone help me do that? |
| 09:20.05 | ssa | mxmx: uname -r ? |
| 09:20.13 | bpun | ssa, it's a tarball ... but its basically 1 file in it anyways n u copy it to someplace or run something in it to copy the file .. |
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| 09:20.44 | nsadmin | wait what's he doing now? |
| 09:20.55 | mxmx | ssa that only give me version |
| 09:20.56 | nsadmin | oh flash |
| 09:20.59 | mxmx | i am in aptitude |
| 09:20.59 | bpun | ssa, there's a way to use the 32-bit... but people tell me the 64-bit works well -- i provided the labs beta link.. |
| 09:21.08 | ssa | bpun: i downloaded this beta....now how to install it ? (dpkg it ?) |
| 09:21.09 | mxmx | well I am in lenny release notes |
| 09:21.16 | bpun | ssa, its .tar.gz ... |
| 09:21.23 | mxmx | and its askign em watha rchitecture i have |
| 09:21.30 | nsadmin | good good... now find where it says how to upgrade |
| 09:21.32 | kiwi_ | hi, how can i install and run packages, e.g. 'mc', in case I dont have root access. is there a way installing into the home directory? |
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| 09:21.44 | ssa | bpun: so how ? |
| 09:22.09 | Jaleks | mightyjoe: try to use a searchengine with your exact wireless model and 'linux driver', there is no general way (at least i'd state that). some are supported out of the box, others need propriate firmware, for others there is open source code to compile... |
| 09:22.50 | nsadmin | kiwi_: there's no automated way of doing that... but you can build source to install in your home cir |
| 09:22.52 | nsadmin | dir |
| 09:23.24 | kiwi_ | nsadmin, ok |
| 09:23.29 | bpun | ssa, tar -xzvf libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz -C /usr/lib/firefox/plugins |
| 09:23.52 | bpun | ssa, then rerun firefox.. and type "about:plugins" |
| 09:24.17 | nsadmin | kiwi_: with sources that have a working "configure" script: |
| 09:24.18 | mightyjoe | Jaleks, i did. its the ipw driver. |
| 09:24.31 | mightyjoe | Im looking for a simple 1..2..3 step page |
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| 09:25.26 | bpun | mightyjoe, can u scan wifis? iwlist <wlan0?> scanning ? |
| 09:25.28 | mxmx | nsadmin its so confusing :/ |
| 09:25.42 | Pulpie | whats the ATI one liner? |
| 09:25.49 | Jaleks | kiwi_: try http://paste.debian.net/32462/ as orientation how to manually get the contens out of a .deb |
| 09:25.49 | Pulpie | !ati-oneliner |
| 09:25.50 | nsadmin | you would first ./configure --help and look at the options you could set and what the defaults are... then run ./configure (put your options here) --prefix=/your/home/dir |
| 09:25.50 | dpkg | somebody said fglrx was "FireGL and Radeon for X", the proprietary display driver made available by ATI. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner>. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary, #ati @ irc.freenode.net. See also <radeon>. |
| 09:25.59 | lonix | how in SHITS name can i fix this |
| 09:26.02 | lonix | i dont want to lose all my files |
| 09:26.14 | mightyjoe | bpun nope |
| 09:26.30 | nsadmin | is the partition mounted |
| 09:26.30 | ssa | bpun: i get this error http://pastebin.com/m67bd28f3 |
| 09:26.30 | mightyjoe | bpun: nor does network manager pick it up as hardware |
| 09:26.48 | bpun | ssa, cmd? |
| 09:26.59 | ssa | cmd ? |
| 09:27.07 | Jaleks | lonix: uh, fix what? |
| 09:27.11 | bpun | ssa, what did u use to download it |
| 09:27.17 | bpun | ssa, to download it? |
| 09:27.26 | ssa | bpun: IceWeasel |
| 09:27.29 | simonrvn | !u |
| 09:27.29 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 09:27.30 | lonix | Jaleks: bad superblock? |
| 09:27.58 | bpun | ssa, '' 492D98D25886AFCAF18252334D4AC4E2 '' is the md5 on this end.. |
| 09:28.23 | bpun | ssa, type md5sum <tarball> |
| 09:28.48 | ssa | d9f28c205e73b7497eef68a47a68578d |
| 09:29.04 | bpun | ssa, are u using the .deb or the .tar.gz file? |
| 09:29.10 | ssa | tar.gz |
| 09:29.28 | bpun | ssa, try downloading it again? http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz |
| 09:29.32 | mxmx | nsadmin the realse notes dont tell emanyhtign about aptitude |
| 09:29.55 | bpun | ssa, or just use wget... |
| 09:29.57 | mightyjoe | Cant i just use ndiswrapper? |
| 09:30.00 | ssa | bpun: sec |
| 09:30.09 | mightyjoe | Its much more easier |
| 09:30.12 | lonix | Jaleks: ? |
| 09:30.12 | Jaleks | lonix: there should be backup superblocks all over the filesystem try to use one of them: 'man e2fsck' |
| 09:30.28 | mxmx | aptitude full-upgrade? |
| 09:30.30 | lonix | Jaleks: even if i try that utility, it says "LOL BAD MAGIC NUMBER" |
| 09:30.35 | lonix | facepalm |
| 09:30.44 | mxmx | nsadmin should I run aptitude full-upgrade? |
| 09:30.49 | bpun | mightyjoe, well if i have a similar situation where ath5k is supposed to work with my wifi.. but i believe madwifi is still yet not obsolete by the ath5k project... |
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| 09:31.15 | mightyjoe | Meaning? |
| 09:31.17 | ssa | bpun: same error |
| 09:31.30 | bpun | mightyjoe, if need be.. reportbug it.. see if ur model works on lenny.. if not try using ndis as last resort... |
| 09:32.11 | Jaleks | lonix: with the '-b' option? try the next superblock then, they are placed at every 'n'th block (where 'n' depends on your blocksize like written in the manpage) |
| 09:32.16 | bpun | ssa, icewesal probably need upgrade.. the download incompletes was common earlier in 3.xx (use wget <url>) |
| 09:32.18 | streuner | bpun: obsolete? |
| 09:32.36 | streuner | ath5k is the free driver, madwifi non-free |
| 09:32.47 | Jaleks | lonix: sou e.g. at block 16384, at 1634*2, at 16384*3, ... |
| 09:32.51 | bpun | streuner, yeah.. i mean the ath5k developers are trying to incorporate the good routines from the madwifi source project.. |
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| 09:33.19 | ssa | bpun: thank you for your time ;) |
| 09:33.22 | nsadmin | but if the code is non-free, why does that not make ath5k non-free? |
| 09:33.28 | bpun | streuner, and for quite some time now.. i'll try to see if my reportbug will work.. |
| 09:33.43 | bpun | nsadmin, ? |
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| 09:34.24 | lonix | Jaleks: it's 38.9 GB |
| 09:34.36 | nsadmin | without knowing what you want, I'm pretty much forced to say "huh?" which is kinda similar, wouldn't you say? |
| 09:35.21 | Jaleks | lonix: i am pretty sure your block size is not equal to your partition size ;-) |
| 09:35.22 | lonix | Jaleks: is there ANYWAY i can be sure that it's an XFS filesystem? |
| 09:35.25 | nsadmin | so what makes madwifi non-free? |
| 09:35.34 | lonix | Jaleks: so how do i find my blocksize? |
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| 09:35.57 | nsadmin | well your physical blocksize is 512 bytes |
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| 09:36.09 | mxmx | apparently i ahve to reboot now |
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| 09:36.10 | simonrvn | lonix: file -s /dev/hda2 e.g. |
| 09:36.11 | nsadmin | or as reported in fdisk |
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| 09:36.26 | mxmx | is ther a command to reboot? |
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| 09:36.37 | nsadmin | mxmx: what kernel are you running? |
| 09:36.38 | Jaleks | lonix: im not really sure, i would at first try the values out of the manpage |
| 09:36.41 | lonix | simonrvn: "/dev/hda1: x86 boot sector" |
| 09:36.43 | simonrvn | mxmx: you just typed it twice |
| 09:36.49 | lonix | Jaleks: already have |
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| 09:36.55 | mxmx | reboot? |
| 09:36.55 | mxmx | haha |
| 09:37.00 | lonix | mxmx: shutdown -r now? |
| 09:37.03 | simonrvn | lonix: obviously pick a part. where it is .. |
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| 09:37.11 | lonix | simonrvn: what? |
| 09:37.15 | mxmx | nah |
| 09:37.17 | mxmx | i typed reboot |
| 09:37.18 | mxmx | it worked |
| 09:37.29 | mxmx | my websites dont work~! help! |
| 09:37.36 | Jaleks | lonix: and you tried also some multiples of these values? |
| 09:37.36 | simonrvn | file -s /dev/hdb6 |
| 09:37.38 | simonrvn | /dev/hdb6: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=4d7e6334-192c-4799-b232-116e98faab9b, volume name "Ubuntu" (needs journal recovery) (large files) |
| 09:37.39 | nsadmin | reboot and shutdown -r now are the same thing |
| 09:37.44 | simonrvn | lonix: ^^^ |
| 09:37.57 | lonix | simonrvn: i don't understand |
| 09:37.57 | mxmx | brb gotat get some water |
| 09:37.59 | simonrvn | e.g. |
| 09:38.03 | nsadmin | in fact one calls the other |
| 09:38.04 | lonix | all my files and whatnot are on /dev/hda1 ? |
| 09:38.04 | mxmx | too much work leveas my mouth dry |
| 09:38.24 | simonrvn | lonix: you were asking on how to be sure if it's an xfs part.. |
| 09:38.26 | nsadmin | alcohol can do that too :) |
| 09:38.31 | mxmx | noa lcohol today |
| 09:38.36 | mxmx | i ahve too mcuh work pending |
| 09:38.41 | mxmx | i came here to get mysql upgrade |
| 09:38.44 | lonix | simonrvn: yes? |
| 09:38.52 | mxmx | and I end up upgradigne veryhting |
| 09:38.53 | mxmx | haha |
| 09:38.53 | lonix | hold on let me pastebin something |
| 09:39.01 | nsadmin | hmm |
| 09:39.03 | simonrvn | lonix: you pick the partition whichfuckinever partition your files are... |
| 09:39.21 | xr | bpun |
| 09:39.23 | kiwi_ | what other superlightweight graphic web browsers similar to links2 are recently available? |
| 09:39.24 | xr | i've problem has been set =ask but any number set not accept,ask always what resolution i want set |
| 09:39.32 | simonrvn | engage brain dude |
| 09:39.49 | nsadmin | braindude: ENGAGE! |
| 09:39.55 | Jaleks | kiwi_: dillo e.g., but that has no frames uspport, afaik |
| 09:40.15 | kiwi_ | Jaleks: ok, thx |
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| 09:40.48 | xr | i've try vga=791 ecc.. |
| 09:40.58 | bpun | xr, should be vga=0x791 |
| 09:41.01 | mxmx | gah |
| 09:41.05 | mxmx | it sitll sys 4.0 |
| 09:41.06 | mxmx | fjionsdo[nfdsonfsd |
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| 09:41.17 | xr | ah 0x first |
| 09:41.36 | Jaleks | xr: no |
| 09:41.41 | Jaleks | xr: not for 791 |
| 09:41.57 | Jaleks | xr: 0x is only if you use the hex values |
| 09:42.46 | bpun | Jaleks, 2.6 shows numbers to prepend to with 0x :) |
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| 09:43.00 | bpun | Jaleks, some of them are lettered+digits.. |
| 09:43.13 | Jaleks | works fine on my machines wihtout at least. |
| 09:43.13 | mxmx | okw aht happens if i livea it like that for now? |
| 09:43.29 | Jaleks | mxmx: nothing |
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| 09:44.00 | powerpeecee | i've added an existing user to an existing group using "usermod -a -G groupname username", and i see the username in /etc/group. however, when i type "id" as username, i do not see the group. what am i doing wrong? |
| 09:44.15 | bpun | Jaleks, for the 2.4 kernels.. yes.. i've seen where vga=<number> with 0x ... but he's using 2.6 |
| 09:44.17 | mxmx | The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems |
| 09:44.17 | mxmx | configuring them the first time. The configuration should be retried using |
| 09:44.17 | mxmx | dpkg --configure <package> or the configure menu option in dselect: |
| 09:44.17 | mxmx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:44.18 | dpkg | mxmx: are you using Windows? |
| 09:44.20 | mxmx | sorry |
| 09:44.20 | Maior | powerpeecee: login again |
| 09:44.31 | powerpeecee | Maior: ahhh.. ok. thank you |
| 09:44.44 | Maior | powerpeecee: my screen has many shells in which I end up su-ing to myself |
| 09:44.50 | bpun | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:44.58 | bpun | for the 2.4 kernel stuff |
| 09:45.02 | bpun | Jaleks, ^^ |
| 09:45.03 | Maior | powerpeecee: (to pick up those sort of changes) |
| 09:45.11 | Jaleks | bpun: i know at the moment 7 machines with 2.6 and vga=791 and that works without problem |
| 09:45.13 | lonix | simonrvn nsadmin Jaleks: http://rafb.net/p/1HVnJZ40.html |
| 09:45.13 | Pulpie | wtf http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Lenny totally fails. |
| 09:45.14 | simonrvn | 2.4?! |
| 09:45.21 | mxmx | Jaleks so hwod o i upgrade mysql? |
| 09:45.35 | powerpeecee | Maior: no luck. when i restarted a new xterm session and type 'id', i don |
| 09:45.41 | Jaleks | mxmx: gimme ssh access ^^ |
| 09:45.43 | powerpeecee | don't see the new group * |
| 09:45.50 | Jaleks | mxmx: no dont ever do, just joking |
| 09:45.51 | mxmx | and if u hack me? ;) |
| 09:45.55 | mxmx | i know |
| 09:46.04 | bpun | waits for xr's input to see about his vga fussness :) |
| 09:46.05 | mxmx | i ahve top 10 k alexa sies |
| 09:46.05 | powerpeecee | Maior: do i need to completely re-log off? |
| 09:46.06 | mxmx | sites |
| 09:46.09 | simonrvn | powerpeecee: did you log out completely? |
| 09:46.09 | mxmx | can u imagine? ;) |
| 09:46.16 | powerpeecee | simonrvn: ahh |
| 09:46.23 | simonrvn | alexa sux |
| 09:46.28 | Pulpie | !ati |
| 09:46.28 | mxmx | it mgiht suck |
| 09:46.28 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>. and <radeon vs radeonhd> |
| 09:46.33 | Pulpie | !radeon |
| 09:46.33 | dpkg | [radeon] A brand of graphics processing units by ATI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon. For chipsets prior to R500 (ie. models up to and including the X1050), use the "radeon" xorg driver and optionally install 'libgl1-mesa-dri' for 3D acceleration. Alternatively, the non-free <fglrx> driver can be used (all models, usually better 3D performance/features). #radeon @ freenode. See also <radeonhd>. |
| 09:46.39 | mxmx | butif i ever wanna do a site repraisal, it is used |
| 09:46.41 | bpun | wishes vga= was standardized and defaulted to a nice res for all linux distros... |
| 09:46.47 | powerpeecee | simonrvn: is there a way to get the new group activated w/o completely logging off? |
| 09:46.48 | lonix | anyone?! |
| 09:46.49 | mightyjoe | Can someone tell me what this error means: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build, is it configured?. Stop. |
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| 09:47.31 | mxmx | sooo? can anyone help me? |
| 09:47.42 | mxmx | Version 4.1.10 is not supported. Update to 4.1.22 or newer version |
| 09:47.49 | simonrvn | powerpeecee: newgrp --help |
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| 09:48.49 | Jaleks | bpun: just tried vga=0x791 - it is not working |
| 09:49.04 | Jaleks | bpun: wher vga=791 works fine |
| 09:49.24 | Jaleks | bpun: but i agree that cga=ask is working fine with 2.6 :-) |
| 09:49.33 | Jaleks | s/cga/vga |
| 09:49.35 | bpun | Jaleks, kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet vga=0x323 is my bootline |
| 09:49.44 | lonix | so how the fuck do i fix a bad magic number |
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| 09:49.49 | Maior | powerpeecee: new xterm session isn't logging on |
| 09:49.50 | lonix | Jaleks: i tried all of that |
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| 09:49.57 | bpun | Jaleks, what's ur bootline? |
| 09:49.57 | Maior | powerpeecee: su to yourself from that session |
| 09:49.58 | lonix | i really dont want to lose hundreds of important documents |
| 09:50.26 | powerpeecee | simonrv: newgrp will reinitiate all xterm sessions/other apps? or just the one i'm in? |
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| 09:50.49 | bpun | Jaleks, it worked for xr.. |
| 09:51.01 | bpun | Jaleks, so its probably that u have an old version of 2.6 kernel.. |
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| 09:51.15 | powerpeecee | simonrvn: ah, ok. i just tested it. it only works for the current xterm session |
| 09:51.17 | Netscher81_ | http://change.pennergame.de/change_please/5045997/ |
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| 09:51.30 | powerpeecee | Maior: ok, su-ing to myself is also a good idea |
| 09:52.24 | mxmx | oh well |
| 09:53.07 | lonix | god motherfucking DAMN you all |
| 09:53.35 | Jaleks | bpun: where 0x323 is the hex value for vga=803 - and my 2.6.26 should not be so outdated |
| 09:53.50 | mightyjoe | Can someone tell me what this error means: *** Cannot find kernel version in /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build, is it configured?. Stop. |
| 09:54.16 | Jaleks | lonix: bye |
| 09:54.28 | powerpeecee | thank you Maior and simonrvn |
| 09:54.44 | mxmx | should I just run apt-get install mysql-server.5.0? |
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| 09:55.03 | lonix | Jaleks: HELP |
| 09:55.55 | Jaleks | mxmx: something like that should do |
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| 09:56.21 | mxmx | ok |
| 09:56.25 | mxmx | i hope it deosnt emss up |
| 09:56.27 | mxmx | my stuff |
| 09:56.45 | mxmx | E: Couldn't find package mysql-server.5.0 |
| 09:56.47 | mxmx | hehehe |
| 09:57.15 | Jaleks | mxmx: mysql-server-5.0 |
| 09:57.20 | Zyferus | apt-cache search mysql-server |
| 09:57.36 | mxmx | searchin |
| 09:58.26 | lonix | sigh |
| 09:58.32 | Jaleks | bpun: btw: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=771 |
| 09:58.37 | lonix | im glad i can count on you guys! |
| 09:58.48 | mxmx | hmmm |
| 09:58.49 | mxmx | nable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
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| 09:59.01 | Zyferus | i doubt there are debian developers ehre, so not every question can be abswered ommediatly |
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| 09:59.25 | Jaleks | lonix: dont be rude, please, most have other things to do and have the messenger open somewhere on another desktop, i think |
| 09:59.36 | Zyferus | mxmx, might need to sudo apt-cache.. |
| 09:59.51 | mxmx | hmm |
| 09:59.51 | tclineks | anyone happen to know what the german spelling of 'ans-spach' would be? |
| 10:00.16 | lonix | Jaleks: you obviously don't, and that wasn't necessarily helpful. |
| 10:00.36 | lonix | Jaleks: don't you understand how frustrating it is to lose all your files? |
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| 10:00.56 | lonix | there's sentimental shit in there... |
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| 10:01.06 | Jaleks | lonix: i, personally, cant be much further help. as i had an similar problem i wrote a small script which tried every block for 'e2fsck -b' - after a few hours it found a alid one and everything was fine again. |
| 10:01.18 | abstortedminds2 | im wondering why adduser doesn't work |
| 10:01.22 | abstortedminds2 | command not found |
| 10:01.25 | Jaleks | s/alid/valid/ |
| 10:01.32 | lonix | Jaleks: so where's the script |
| 10:01.41 | mxmx | nop |
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| 10:01.52 | Maior | defines important data as "that which is backed up" |
| 10:02.04 | Zyferus | abstortedminds2, are you trying as a super user or root? |
| 10:02.09 | abstortedminds2 | root |
| 10:02.13 | lonix | abstortedminds2: useradd |
| 10:02.13 | Zyferus | hmm |
| 10:02.16 | lonix | not adduser. |
| 10:02.18 | abstortedminds2 | useradd fails too |
| 10:02.21 | lonix | eh |
| 10:02.39 | Jaleks | lonix: it's just a loop counting up and checking e2fsck return code, exiting if its fine (and playing a funny wav file when finihsed ;-)) |
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| 10:02.56 | lonix | sigh |
| 10:02.59 | Jaleks | agrees to Maior |
| 10:03.08 | abstortedminds2 | its debian 3.1 |
| 10:03.11 | lonix | .. |
| 10:03.15 | lonix | who uses debian 3.1? |
| 10:03.21 | abstortedminds2 | the box im on |
| 10:03.21 | xingu | lonix: I've come in a little late, perhaps you could recap exactly how the filesystem got damaged |
| 10:03.25 | Zyferus | abstortedminds2 does, aparently |
| 10:03.26 | Jaleks | abstortedminds2 does |
| 10:03.34 | abstortedminds2 | :p |
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| 10:03.48 | lonix | xingu: im not sure, really..it was up for ..around 16 days without a reboot..then when i did, boom..LILO hung after about three lines of dots |
| 10:03.57 | lonix | before that, i believe i upgraded my kernel..but had no noticeable problems |
| 10:03.57 | Zyferus | recomends abstortedminds2 updates :P |
| 10:04.14 | abstortedminds2 | just doing web work on this old thing |
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| 10:04.29 | Zyferus | it;s still run lenny, i am sure |
| 10:04.37 | abstortedminds2 | weird |
| 10:04.38 | Zyferus | as long as you don;t run a gui |
| 10:04.38 | lonix | xingu: so far, i've installed grub from a livecd..i was able to mount /dev/hda1 once before on the live cd..but i can't now |
| 10:04.42 | Jaleks | abstortedminds2: manually edit /etc/passwd? ;-) |
| 10:06.03 | lonix | xingu: ??? |
| 10:06.08 | lonix | im quite impatient at this stage |
| 10:06.19 | Jaleks | lonix: if you have enough space, i would recommend to backup the whole partition with dd at first (`dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/mnt/backups/hda1.iso`) so that you can play around like you wnat on the damaged partition without risk |
| 10:06.22 | mxmx | Zyferus still no luck |
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| 10:06.28 | xingu | lonix: ok so try fsck -t ext2 -b 32768 -n /dev/hda1 |
| 10:06.34 | lonix | ext2? |
| 10:06.35 | lonix | why |
| 10:07.21 | lonix | xingu: bad magic number in superblock while trying to open /dev/hda |
| 10:07.42 | bpun | !w3m |
| 10:07.43 | dpkg | it has been said that w3m is an advanced text based web browser that supports mouse clicks, tabbed browsing, image rendering, ssl. w3m stands for "see the www" in japanese. when you pronounce w3m, it doesn't rhyme with "pteranodon". |
| 10:07.47 | lonix | xingu: it's xfs, btw |
| 10:07.51 | bpun | !tell xr about w3m |
| 10:08.17 | lonix | xingu: xfs_repair yields nothing helpful |
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| 10:08.30 | lonix | "sorry, unable to find valid superblock blah something" after an hour of trying |
| 10:08.31 | bpun | xr, there's also links2 |
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| 10:09.49 | lonix | if there's any friggin way that i can access /dev/hda1 to get some files...i'll be happy |
| 10:10.20 | lonix | i dont understand how a filesystem can go from COMPLETELY NORMAL to totally raped in a few days |
| 10:10.24 | lonix | with no effort on my part. |
| 10:10.27 | lonix | POS filesystem |
| 10:10.41 | xingu | lonix: in that case it's time to restore from backup in my view; my guess is that you're managed to overwrite both the primary and secondary superblock, which is fatal for xfs (they're tree structures and for xfs the primary is stored in the boot sector of the partition) |
| 10:10.55 | lonix | xingu: how would i have managed that? |
| 10:11.08 | lonix | i hate xfs. |
| 10:11.12 | xingu | lonix: fooling about with grub/ lilo is a pretty effective way. |
| 10:11.21 | lonix | oh well |
| 10:11.27 | lonix | kills self |
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| 10:12.05 | bpun | xr |
| 10:12.09 | bpun | apt-get install w3m-img |
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| 10:13.11 | powerpeecee | if 'usernameX' is in group 'audio', and sound plays when launching music app from xterm, why wouldn't music app play sounds when launching from a windows manager? (i.e. fluxbox in my case). ps aux|grep audacious shows that 'usernameX' is indeed the owner |
| 10:13.24 | bpun | xr, grphics should show in tty1 now.. |
| 10:14.40 | powerpeecee | ooh... mixer card doesn't show up when launching music player from windows manager... not good... |
| 10:15.11 | Jaleks | powerpeecee: didi the user relog after adding it to the group? |
| 10:15.17 | bpun | powerpeecee, try setting all sound devices to "alsa" |
| 10:15.40 | powerpeecee | Jaleks: ahh... i think you're right... my fluxbox session still needs to be logged off and re-logged on |
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| 10:16.23 | powerpeecee | thanks Jaleks and bpun |
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| 10:16.43 | Jaleks | when using icewm i have my shutdown command as `sudo shutdown -h now`. it works fine in console (without asking for password, btw) but won't from the icewm programs menu. what is my fault? |
| 10:16.49 | powerpeecee | here goes logging back in... |
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| 10:19.19 | powerpeecee | restarting fluxbox helped with the group audio issue :-) very happy |
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| 10:20.31 | nsadmin | powerpeecee a change to a group wouldn't take effect until you log out and log back in |
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| 10:20.54 | Jaleks | `x-terminal-emulator -e espeak "no problem"` |
| 10:20.57 | powerpeecee | nsadmin: yep. i did a newgrp audio and restarted x |
| 10:21.03 | bpun | xr, its about time u RTFM!!! ;) |
| 10:21.13 | bpun | xr, I cant spoon feed ya :) |
| 10:21.33 | nsadmin | spoons don't travel over interwebz... |
| 10:22.04 | bpun | xr, maybe Jaleks knows about it.. |
| 10:22.23 | bpun | gnite :) |
| 10:22.28 | xr | ok,if i want set also color on boot and logo linux also with see boot message type http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/05/068-gentoo/gentoo_boot_02.png how can? |
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| 10:25.44 | nsadmin | xr try one thing at a time. read, think, try, think, problemsolve, think, repeat. |
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| 10:27.56 | rr5kgr | hi all |
| 10:28.04 | xr | best if i reading italian guide |
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| 10:28.40 | rr5kgr | can you help? i have problem with my laptop's pcmcia socket! |
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| 10:29.09 | rr5kgr | if i insert a card, it halts at all |
| 10:29.27 | rr5kgr | only screen stay |
| 10:29.36 | Jaleks | xr: if you just want a nice boot screen i'd recommend splashy - the things from the screenshot is like that in koppix - perhas have a look at their package list? |
| 10:29.50 | nsadmin | rr5kgr: maybe it's picking an irq that makes it halt |
| 10:29.57 | Jaleks | s/koppix/knoppix |
| 10:30.24 | rr5kgr | i thing yenta_socket gets irq11 |
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| 10:30.42 | rr5kgr | think |
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| 10:31.48 | Jaleks | anyone an idea why my `sudo sbutdown - now` won't work from icewm programs menu? |
| 10:32.04 | cahoot | need an -h? |
| 10:32.19 | cahoot | or two |
| 10:32.32 | Jaleks | s/typos/dictionary |
| 10:32.51 | cahoot | like shutdown -h now |
| 10:32.54 | Jaleks | sry, `sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now` |
| 10:32.57 | Zyferus | sbutdown? is taht what happens when you sit? |
| 10:33.03 | rr5kgr | Jaleks: sudo needs input password? |
| 10:33.06 | Jaleks | ^^ |
| 10:33.19 | Jaleks | rr5kgr: no, it wont on console at least |
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| 10:34.23 | micols | just try init 0 instead |
| 10:34.37 | micols | /sbin/init 0 |
| 10:34.41 | micols | in sudoers+execute it |
| 10:34.57 | nsadmin | no that's what happens when you fall! |
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| 10:35.42 | Jaleks | that would be worth a try, but the config aboth works on other boxes (copied config files) so i would still be interested in the cause |
| 10:35.54 | Jaleks | s/aboth/above grr |
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| 10:39.07 | Xeto | hi, I'm gettig this error when trying to play flash from Iceweasel, no sound output: |
| 10:39.10 | Xeto | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1008:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 10:39.10 | Xeto | aplay: main:590: audio open error: No such file or directory |
| 10:39.19 | Jaleks | anybody knows about some log of icewm? |
| 10:39.46 | Jaleks | not even the logout seems to work at the moment... |
| 10:39.54 | Xeto | anybody knows hot to fix this ? |
| 10:40.15 | CAiRO | is there a plugin for pidgin that allows me to be invisible to selected users for the ICQ protocol? |
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| 10:40.18 | Xeto | sound works in other other programs (audacious or ekiga i.e.) |
| 10:40.37 | Xeto | aplay gives me the same output from command line |
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| 10:41.54 | powerpeecee | what's the smallest footprint pdf viewer people recommend? evince is bloated |
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| 10:44.14 | cahoot | Xeto: what does fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* return? |
| 10:45.06 | Xeto | cahoot: |
| 10:45.07 | Xeto | $~>fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* USER PID ACCESS COMMAND |
| 10:45.07 | Xeto | /dev/snd/controlC1: paco 3848 F.... mixer_applet2 |
| 10:45.08 | Xeto | /dev/dsp1: paco 4313 F.... audacious |
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| 10:45.27 | Xeto | sorry, I'll use pastebin next time :-( |
| 10:45.35 | Jaleks | powerpeecee: xpdf |
| 10:45.38 | Xeto | cahoot: did you read the output ? |
| 10:45.45 | cahoot | Xeto: make your apps output to alsa not oss devices |
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| 10:45.51 | _Pete_ | Howto setup KVM + virtual-manager so that guest OS can access internet. Now configured with virtual-manager to use NAT-network and the interfaces on host are up: virbr0 192.168.122.1 and vnet0. When trying to setup guest eth0 (ubuntu) to use dhcp I see from host monitorprogram virbr0 have traffic should I run dhcp-server on host-machine or something? |
| 10:46.21 | _Pete_ | host = ubuntu 64bit |
| 10:46.22 | _Pete_ | oops |
| 10:46.26 | _Pete_ | host = debian 64bit |
| 10:46.26 | Xeto | It's when I try alsa when the error occurs hehe |
| 10:46.29 | _Pete_ | :) |
| 10:46.35 | powerpeecee | Jaleks: i'll give xpdf a shot |
| 10:46.40 | powerpeecee | thank yout |
| 10:46.46 | powerpeecee | you* |
| 10:47.00 | Jaleks | powerpeecee: i'd recommend to still use a bloated one ;-) |
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| 10:49.34 | powerpeecee | Jaleks: my imac g3 333 mhz will choke :-s |
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| 10:50.18 | Jaleks | how do i make my gksu understand, that it should not try to save passwords? it always wats to create a keyring without asking to save the pw before that |
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| 10:50.44 | mxmx | how do i start my proftppd? |
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| 10:51.21 | Jaleks | mxmx: `/etc/init.d/proftpd start`should do |
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| 10:52.11 | Mateusz | hi all!! I have internet throutgh gsm (play) and i cant connect by a Hauwei e169 modem. may sb (who has similar to me) look at config files? |
| 10:52.20 | mxmx | bagh |
| 10:52.20 | mxmx | Starting ftp server: proftpd - Fatal: unknown configuration directive 'DisplayChdir' on line 62 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf' |
| 10:52.20 | mxmx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:53.03 | xand | fix that line |
| 10:53.08 | Jaleks | mxmx: compare the config file to the new one ('*.dpkg-dist') and fix it |
| 10:53.18 | mxmx | ok |
| 10:53.26 | Mateusz | can sb help me? |
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| 10:55.44 | cahoot | Xeto: audacious is outputting to /dev/dsp1 |
| 10:56.10 | mxmx | they all have DisplayChdirreadme |
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| 10:56.11 | cahoot | Xeto: that's alsa's oss-emulation |
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| 10:56.54 | cahoot | Xeto: you really shouldn't need oss-emulation nowadays |
| 10:57.01 | mxmx | Jaleks? |
| 10:57.22 | Xeto | cahoot: yes, I know. With oss emulation works, but, when I configure to work with alsa I get the error message |
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| 10:57.51 | Jaleks | mxmx: sry, see `man proftpd` or similar |
| 10:57.56 | mxmx | ok |
| 10:58.34 | Xeto | cahoot: I've found that programs are looking for /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
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| 10:58.39 | mxmx | Jaleks nothing useful |
| 10:58.43 | Xeto | but it does not exist |
| 10:58.54 | Xeto | /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p does |
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| 10:59.53 | Jaleks | mxmx: sry, as stated above i dont know proftpd - try commenting out the line and see what happens? |
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| 11:00.39 | cahoot | Xeto: you have two soundcards? |
| 11:00.43 | nlindblad | What could cause all services on a server to become unresponsive? The server does NAT for an entire network and all the forwarding works fine. |
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| 11:01.09 | cahoot | Xeto: or intermittently use an usb device? |
| 11:01.12 | Xeto | I've a soundcard and an USB webcam with mic input device |
| 11:01.26 | nsadmin | net cable unplugged? |
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| 11:01.46 | nlindblad | nsadmin: It's forwarding between eth0 and eth1 just fine |
| 11:01.49 | nsadmin | define "unresponsive" |
| 11:01.49 | nlindblad | nsadmin: All services listen on eth0 |
| 11:01.57 | nsadmin | define "unresponsive" |
| 11:01.59 | cahoot | Xeto: I guess for some reason the cam has gotten to be seen as alsas card0 |
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| 11:02.11 | nlindblad | nsadmin: Time out on HTTP, FTP and DNS (services on the machine) |
| 11:02.20 | Xeto | mmm, and can I change that ? |
| 11:02.27 | nlindblad | nsadmin: nmap says the ports are open |
| 11:02.51 | nsadmin | is the server one you control? |
| 11:03.03 | nlindblad | Yes, but I currently don't have physical access |
| 11:03.49 | nsadmin | this is one machine with one static IP on the internet? |
| 11:04.01 | nsadmin | and the services are running only on that machine? |
| 11:04.04 | nlindblad | Yes |
| 11:04.10 | Xeto | cahoot: I guess asoundrc is the answer, right ? |
| 11:04.22 | mxmx | Jaleks commetning out doenst fix it :/ |
| 11:04.32 | nlindblad | nsadmin: But port 20 for example, is forwarded via iptables to a computer on the LAN (which eth1 is connected to) |
| 11:04.37 | nlindblad | nsadmin: FTP is working fine |
| 11:05.04 | valdyn | nlindblad: disk gone bad |
| 11:05.08 | nlindblad | nsadmin: But services running solely on the machine in question are unusable |
| 11:05.24 | nsadmin | and so you can't |
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| 11:05.32 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.34 | valdyn | nlindblad: theres many possibilities for your issues, verify that the server and the servies are running.. |
| 11:05.36 | nlindblad | nsadmin: Nope |
| 11:05.49 | nsadmin | not much to do. |
| 11:05.57 | nlindblad | It's unreachable on both eth0 and eth1 |
| 11:06.03 | valdyn | nlindblad: while iptables is entirely kernel based it wont get stuck while everything in userspace might hang |
| 11:06.16 | nlindblad | valdyn: So it could be harddrive failure? |
| 11:06.16 | nsadmin | how do you know it's unreachable on the internal? |
| 11:06.22 | valdyn | nlindblad: sure yes |
| 11:06.23 | Jaleks | mxmx: hmm, normally it should fix an unkown option when it is commented out... |
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| 11:06.46 | poleohle_ | kann hier wer deutsch? |
| 11:06.50 | nlindblad | nsadmin: I can reach computers behind the server in question (VNC via NAT) and they can't SSH either nor use DNS (the server is acting DNS for the entire network) |
| 11:06.51 | valdyn | !de |
| 11:06.51 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 11:07.13 | poleohle_ | zhx |
| 11:07.15 | poleohle_ | thx |
| 11:07.17 | nsadmin | so the dns is down |
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| 11:07.23 | nsadmin | that could explain a lot |
| 11:07.36 | poleohle_ | kann hier wer deutsch |
| 11:07.41 | nsadmin | !de |
| 11:07.41 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 11:07.51 | poleohle_ | wo is das? |
| 11:08.04 | war9407 | debian-testing, latest upgrade breaks some stuff |
| 11:08.05 | nlindblad | nsadmin: You mean, if SSHD is configured to listen to a domain and not an IP it would cause this behavious? |
| 11:08.06 | war9407 | When I go to full screen on a Xinerama (3-monitor) setup it used to just maximize to ONE monitor, how it maximizes to that monitor and blacks out the other screens, why is this? |
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| 11:08.19 | nlindblad | *behaviour |
| 11:08.20 | war9407 | and second thing, when I open new x-terms it goes to the wrong monitor, (KDE, how to fix?) |
| 11:08.32 | noppe | can someone explain to me what "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -314705834 ns)" means? |
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| 11:09.03 | nsadmin | no, generally services will want a client box to resolve from its numeric IP to its name to determine if a breakin happend |
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| 11:09.45 | mxmx | Jaleks # is to comment out right? |
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| 11:10.00 | nlindblad | nsadmin: But DNS being down could still be the culprit? |
| 11:10.27 | nsadmin | it might think a breakin attempt maybe happened if the name gotten from the reverse lookup does not resolve to the original IP |
| 11:10.30 | mxmx | Jaleks , when i comemnt it out i get the following message |
| 11:10.35 | mxmx | Starting ftp server: proftpd - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'server.myserver.com' error: Name or service not known |
| 11:10.54 | nsadmin | well each service might interpret that differently, and some might not check it... |
| 11:11.14 | nsadmin | this is not a data center? |
| 11:11.20 | nlindblad | Nope |
| 11:11.31 | nsadmin | so it's all you? |
| 11:12.02 | nlindblad | It's a rather large organisation and I'm just administrating it, haven't set it up from scratch |
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| 11:12.53 | Jaleks | mxmx: server.myserver.com will be somewhere in the config file i think, and when you set it to localhost it could be ok - or modify /etc/hosts to point to 127.0.0.1 (add line '127.0.0.1 server.myserver.com') maybe |
| 11:13.16 | war9407 | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg629706.html |
| 11:13.17 | war9407 | this is my bug |
| 11:13.31 | nsadmin | when is the next possible time you can get to the machine up close and personal? |
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| 11:13.48 | nlindblad | nsadmin: In a week |
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| 11:14.24 | mxmx | hmm |
| 11:14.29 | nsadmin | what are the consequences of leaving it the way it is for that week? what will happen to the organization? |
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| 11:15.12 | mxmx | 127.0.0.1localhost |
| 11:15.18 | Jaleks | anyone an idea how i tell my icewm to really kill pcmanfm on logout? ('sudo killall pcmanfm' wont work as logout command, pcmanfm-desktop still stays there) |
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| 11:15.34 | nlindblad | nsadmin: A fellow technician will be there within the hour, I'll guide him over the phone |
| 11:15.50 | war9407 | need help, how do I downgrade my kwin package? |
| 11:15.55 | war9407 | I havent done it in awhile |
| 11:15.57 | nsadmin | oh, so you do have a closer option. |
| 11:15.57 | nlindblad | nsadmin: Thanks |
| 11:15.59 | war9407 | I need to pin it |
| 11:16.08 | war9407 | due to this bug: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2009/03/msg00259.html |
| 11:16.13 | valdyn | Jaleks: pcmanfm dies when you logout / quit the window manager or whatever program defines your session |
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| 11:16.18 | Jaleks | mxmx: just add ' server.myserver.com' behind the localhost if the proftp config gives no chance to change that |
| 11:16.18 | mxmx | Jaleks i cahnged it, did the same thing |
| 11:16.31 | valdyn | Jaleks: "killing" is not required. |
| 11:17.11 | Jaleks | valdyn: it does not in my icewm when trying to halt via icewm menu - killing it manually helps |
| 11:17.27 | valdyn | Jaleks: what did you do to set up your X Session that way? |
| 11:17.33 | valdyn | Jaleks: custom ~/.xsession? |
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| 11:18.15 | Jaleks | valdyn: i did not change anything there, no. just slim with icewm and pcmanfm as desktop |
| 11:18.16 | valdyn | Jaleks: and why are you using sudo ? |
| 11:18.34 | nlindblad | nsadmin: What are the odds of the RAID1 array terribly failing while other integrated components like the NIC:s stay intact? |
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| 11:18.55 | Jaleks | valdyn: tried sudo to be able to use killall |
| 11:19.01 | valdyn | nlindblad: thats the default behaviour |
| 11:19.07 | valdyn | nlindblad: who cares about odds? |
| 11:19.10 | valdyn | nlindblad: you need to inspect this |
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| 11:19.40 | nlindblad | valdyn: Of course I'm gonna inspect it |
| 11:19.49 | mxmx | so anybody knows whats wrong with DisplayChdirreadme |
| 11:19.58 | mxmx | in proftpd? |
| 11:20.23 | nsadmin | nlindblad: failure probabability is higher where there are more moving parts. |
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| 11:20.41 | Jaleks | valdyn: mor correctly to ensure i have the right to kill naything |
| 11:20.44 | nsadmin | or probabababability |
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| 11:21.45 | valdyn | Jaleks: something is wrong or not going your way the way that slim session is set up |
| 11:21.57 | valdyn | Jaleks: does quitting pcman fm log you out completely? |
| 11:22.03 | klaz168 | hi, xorg crashes everyday, and i cant figure out the problem.. heres the log, http://rafb.net/p/YPNZDE23.html |
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| 11:22.44 | valdyn | Jaleks: the way this works is that *all* X clients should be children of *one* X client, killing of which logs you out |
| 11:22.45 | Jaleks | valdyn: yes, when pcmanfm is not as desktop there (ok when as filemanager only) i can log off normally to slim login |
| 11:22.54 | nsadmin | klaz168: did you even check the log to see if it says "error"? (if "no". I'm not looking) |
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| 11:23.13 | klaz168 | nsadmin, ofcourse, 'Fatal server error' |
| 11:23.39 | nsadmin | and you read that entry? |
| 11:24.02 | klaz168 | Fatal server error: lockup.. thats all its saying |
| 11:24.04 | valdyn | Jaleks: my questiojn was if killing pcmanfm logs you out, not if logging out works without pcmanfm |
| 11:24.20 | klaz168 | nsadmin, dont have much experience in this.. |
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| 11:24.43 | mxmx | .. |
| 11:24.48 | nsadmin | ok, is there anything before that, which might suggest wyhat happened? |
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| 11:25.05 | Jaleks | valdyn: if i log out and (because its not working) kill pcmanfm (desktop), log out continues |
| 11:25.09 | klaz168 | nsadmin, could u have a look at the log? |
| 11:25.18 | valdyn | Jaleks: that doesnt answer my question |
| 11:25.31 | valdyn | Jaleks: try killing pcmanfm *before* you log out, tell me if that logs you out |
| 11:25.37 | Jaleks | valdyn: yes |
| 11:25.39 | nsadmin | not at the moment... I'm doing laundry and then it's bedtime for bonzo |
| 11:25.47 | Jaleks | valdyn: uh |
| 11:25.53 | klaz168 | nsadmin, :/ |
| 11:26.05 | Jaleks | valdyn: killing pcmafm alone not but if killed and then logging out it works |
| 11:26.36 | valdyn | Jaleks: and you made up on .xinitrc nor .xsession, right? |
| 11:26.42 | valdyn | Jaleks: and you made up no .xinitrc nor .xsession, right? |
| 11:27.19 | nsadmin | you might also note the exact time it happened as reported in the log, and see if any other log shows anything happening at very close to the same time |
| 11:27.30 | Jaleks | valdyn: i did not change any .x{wahtsoever} file manually |
| 11:28.24 | nsadmin | you may or may not find anything, but at least you rule out system-wide problems |
| 11:28.29 | mxmx | Jaleks: Fixed a bit debian/changelog layout and typos. |
| 11:28.29 | mxmx | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.29 | mxmx | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.31 | CAiRO | is there a plugin for pidgin that allows me to be invisible to selected users for the ICQ protocol? |
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| 11:28.55 | nsadmin | while you're at ruling things out, you might also reboot into memtest86 for a few mins |
| 11:29.09 | klaz168 | nsadmin, 'Ring end \ space: 12 wanted 32' thats all it says i think |
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| 11:29.43 | valdyn | Jaleks: i got to look at icewm to see if it provides some session management capabilities |
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| 11:29.55 | valdyn | Jaleks: if it does not you need to use a seperate session management tool |
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| 11:30.04 | lvh | hi. |
| 11:30.13 | nsadmin | if no errors there, then you've ruled out very deep problems, including,,, your cpu, your ram, a lot of your motherboard, your video card and possibly your other cards |
| 11:30.29 | lvh | I'm not entirely sure this is the right channel, but since I exclusively want to use Debian software, I suppose this would be a good place to start |
| 11:30.43 | valdyn | Jaleks: im not quite sure if a .xsession file like : "pcmanfm & exec icewm" will do what you need, but it might |
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| 11:31.04 | mxmx | how do i recompiple proftpd? |
| 11:31.09 | mxmx | *recompilre |
| 11:31.33 | klaz168 | nsadmin, u reckon doin a memtest would help? |
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| 11:31.54 | Gun_Smoke | mxmx, you'd need to fetch the source |
| 11:31.55 | xingu | klaz168: I830WaitLpRing() is a fairly generic error that basically means the gpu (such as it is for that chipset) locked up and barfed. |
| 11:31.57 | lvh | I'm looking for a new cell phone/pda that syncs flawlessly with linux boxes (preferably allowing sync with gmail/google calendar) and has decent audio support (both in terms of acceptable quality and OGG/FLAC support, I don't want to have to recode everything I have to shitty mp3s) |
| 11:32.11 | lvh | mxmx: Recompile? Why? If you're using the debian package, you're probably using a binary |
| 11:32.13 | Gun_Smoke | lvh, freerunner |
| 11:32.17 | mxmx | apt-get install proftpd wont do? |
| 11:32.38 | Gun_Smoke | mxmx, no, that installs a pre-built package. |
| 11:32.46 | xingu | klaz168: iotw if you can work out what the box is actually doing at the point of impact it'd probably help (is it a particular screensaver? etc) |
| 11:32.50 | Gun_Smoke | pre-compiled I should say |
| 11:32.58 | mxmx | . |
| 11:33.06 | valdyn | Jaleks: are you already trying to use the startup / shutdown scripts of icewm? |
| 11:33.27 | Gun_Smoke | aptitude reinstall <package> will reinstall |
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| 11:33.31 | nsadmin | get the source code, read the README, satisfy the build requirements, check ./configure --help to see what options are possible, see what their defaults are, run ./configure with parameters that set your desired options, run make, run make install |
| 11:33.45 | Jaleks | valdyn: yes, startup starts pcmanfm, a kill in shutdown or a kill in logout_command won't help |
| 11:33.46 | klaz168 | xingu, it crashed more than once when i was doin simple stuff.. like web surfing.. but the crash happens after i click something.. its pretty random |
| 11:34.08 | lvh | Gun_Smoke: no umts support yet afaik, right? |
| 11:34.10 | Jaleks | valdyn: pstree tells me every process is under slim, btw |
| 11:34.24 | Jaleks | valdyn: (every x app) |
| 11:34.27 | valdyn | Jaleks: yea, thats how it is, but thats not useful for you |
| 11:34.47 | lvh | Gun_Smoke: Pretty much a requirement unfortunately. Seems kind of pointless to keep my nearly five yr old nokia around so I can use umts :D |
| 11:34.47 | Gun_Smoke | lvh, I stopped following the development when i lost my job and can't afford one now.. My buddy has one.. I'll see him today and chat him up about it.. |
| 11:34.49 | valdyn | Jaleks: killing slim to log out would be evil, ( though it would work kind of ) |
| 11:34.56 | lvh | Gun_Smoke: cool, thanks. |
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| 11:35.07 | nsadmin | but warning... unless you know pretty well what is in debian that would affect and/or enhance the operation of proftpd, you have a lot more learning ahead |
| 11:35.33 | Jaleks | valdyn: and /usr/share/xsessions/IceWM.desktop starts /usr/bin/icewm-session <- regarding your session idea |
| 11:36.11 | Gun_Smoke | lvh, you could always ask in #openmoko here on freenode.. |
| 11:36.13 | Jaleks | valdyn: wouldn't it only be a pcmanfm problem rather than icewm? every other app is closed normal... |
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| 11:36.34 | valdyn | Jaleks: depends on how pcmanfm is started |
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| 11:36.46 | Gun_Smoke | mxmx, any reason why you want proftpd over vsftpd? |
| 11:36.51 | xingu | klaz168: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/XserverDebugging <- it would *really* help if you could get a backtrace... |
| 11:36.56 | valdyn | Jaleks: pcmanfm should be part of the icewm session, so a child of icewm-session |
| 11:37.11 | valdyn | Jaleks: but its not a child right now, is it? |
| 11:37.16 | klaz168 | xingu, ill take a look at that, thx |
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| 11:37.57 | lvh | oh, right |
| 11:37.59 | Jaleks | valdyn: its start in 'startup' script through simple 'pcmanfm' - but its the same problem when starting manually (which /should/ basicaly be the same) |
| 11:38.08 | xingu | klaz168: and yes, for all the stick that those beardy foss intel types give us, it's amusing to note that their graphics arch. is buggy under certain workloads, too ;) |
| 11:38.40 | valdyn | Jaleks: is it "pcmanfm" in the startup script or "pcmanfm &" ? |
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| 11:38.51 | offender | hi can someone of you be my urinating friend |
| 11:38.52 | klaz168 | xingu, yeah i hated that chip from day one, dont remind me.. lol |
| 11:38.54 | offender | hi can someone of you be my urinating friend |
| 11:39.02 | Gun_Smoke | buh-bye |
| 11:39.07 | valdyn | Jaleks: is that your custom startup script? |
| 11:39.18 | mxmx | it wont reistnall it eitehr |
| 11:39.27 | nsadmin | !ops offender wants a urinating friender |
| 11:39.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: nsadmin complains about: offender wants a urinating friender |
| 11:39.34 | Jaleks | valdyn: it is a child of x-session-manager which is /usr/bin/icewm-session |
| 11:39.43 | offender | hi can someone of you be my urinating friend |
| 11:39.56 | Gun_Smoke | mxmx, errors? |
| 11:39.57 | vyrgozunqk | yeah baby |
| 11:39.58 | offender | hi can someone of you be my urinating friend |
| 11:39.59 | Jaleks | valdyn: tried both methods, with ans withou '&' - and its, as stated, also a problem when started manually |
| 11:39.59 | vyrgozunqk | :D |
| 11:40.12 | Jaleks | valdyn: custom script yes |
| 11:40.34 | valdyn | Jaleks: ok, pcmanfm issue then it seems |
| 11:40.42 | mxmx | Gun_Smoke I wasn't able to locate file for the proftpd package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. |
| 11:41.04 | valdyn | Jaleks: for a quick hack try kill -9 or killall -9 |
| 11:41.08 | mxmx | thats the errro message i got |
| 11:41.09 | valdyn | Jaleks: but revert that later |
| 11:41.19 | valdyn | Jaleks: or have you tried that already? |
| 11:41.41 | Gun_Smoke | mxmx, that's from apt? |
| 11:41.54 | mxmx | thas from aptitute reintall |
| 11:41.56 | mxmx | yeah |
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| 11:42.45 | Jaleks | valdyn: and no #pcmanfm as far as i can see ;-) tried: killall pcmanfm as logout command and in shutdown script |
| 11:43.00 | valdyn | Jaleks: with or without -9 ? |
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| 11:43.13 | mxmx | . |
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| 11:43.48 | Jaleks | valdyn: both now |
| 11:44.01 | lonix | i dont give a |
| 11:44.02 | lonix | FUCK |
| 11:44.03 | valdyn | Jaleks: same result? |
| 11:44.14 | Jaleks | valdyn: yep :-) |
| 11:45.19 | valdyn | Jaleks: i dont get it |
| 11:45.32 | valdyn | Jaleks: pcmanfm is certainly being killed that way |
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| 11:46.01 | Jaleks | valdyn: when i use it in console, yes, but not through icewm, unfortunately |
| 11:46.29 | izua_ | err |
| 11:46.30 | valdyn | Jaleks: how do you know that the shutdown script is even being executed? |
| 11:46.39 | izua_ | irssi seems to work.. after some bitching, same does pidgin |
| 11:46.55 | izua_ | but no http can work. not even with lynx or raw telnet.. nothing can be established |
| 11:46.59 | mxmx | Gun_Smoke? |
| 11:47.10 | izua_ | i am connected to a router, which connects via pppoe to my isp |
| 11:47.16 | izua_ | could it be that a lease expired? |
| 11:47.27 | izua_ | dhcp lease, of course :) |
| 11:47.56 | izua_ | i ran a few ifconfig eth0 down/up |
| 11:48.00 | izua_ | and ran the dhclient again |
| 11:48.05 | Jaleks | valdyn: i put the killall as logout/halt/reboot commands so it should be started in every case |
| 11:48.24 | mxmx | count: 4 |
| 11:48.25 | valdyn | Jaleks: so you dont actually know.. |
| 11:48.48 | valdyn | Jaleks: add an echo "debug" > ~/logfile or somesuch |
| 11:49.42 | Jaleks | valdyn: why not have a try, just a moment |
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| 11:57.10 | mxmx | ok my proftpd is working now |
| 11:57.38 | mxmx | but through directadmin |
| 11:57.49 | mxmx | proftpdproftpd (pid 24318 ) |
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| 11:57.55 | mxmx | i can connect via ftp |
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| 11:58.50 | mxmx | IF ANYONE CARESSS ;) |
| 11:59.14 | simonrvn | no, i don't want to caress your proftpd. |
| 11:59.21 | simonrvn | you sick puppy |
| 11:59.29 | mxmx | -ss |
| 11:59.40 | simonrvn | heh heh |
| 11:59.53 | mxmx | so directamdint ells me hey proftps is working |
| 11:59.54 | Jaleks | mxmx: gz |
| 12:00.03 | mxmx | but root telles me |
| 12:00.10 | simonrvn | what's wrong with ps? |
| 12:00.14 | mxmx | hey dont know server.mypornsite.com |
| 12:00.28 | mxmx | oops |
| 12:00.34 | Mark21 | hello, somehow i cannot get snmpd (installed with apt-get) working, it is not returning snmp data when it is queried from another system (i did add that subnet, so it should allow readonly queries) |
| 12:00.46 | mxmx | now maybe i can update mysql? |
| 12:00.47 | nsadmin | they say hey? |
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| 12:00.51 | mxmx | my goal 3 hours ago? |
| 12:00.52 | mxmx | haah |
| 12:01.01 | abrotman | mxmx: lay off the enter key |
| 12:01.15 | simonrvn | mxmx: um, is it listening on an accessible ip/interface? |
| 12:01.17 | Mark21 | mxmx: do you have a problem with proftpd and directadmin or what do you mean? |
| 12:01.20 | mxmx | NO i refuse. I hate type in one line |
| 12:01.47 | simonrvn | we can always refuse to help. works both ways. |
| 12:01.54 | mxmx | Mark21: restaring proftpd via root, it doenst recognzie my server, but DA says proftpd is working fine, and i can connect to sits via ftp |
| 12:02.06 | nsadmin | so you want the screen of about 900 people to move faster |
| 12:02.23 | simonrvn | mxmx: oops |
| 12:02.24 | mxmx | only 5 or so are typing :P |
| 12:02.31 | simonrvn | Mark21: um, is it listening on an accessible ip/interface? |
| 12:02.35 | Mark21 | mxmx: can you restart it in directadmin? |
| 12:02.39 | mxmx | yeah |
| 12:02.44 | abrotman | not everyone just types .. some read .. and if they can't read what you're typing, they'll lose interest |
| 12:02.53 | mxmx | i can reboot, rstart, and many otehr root things |
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| 12:03.10 | Mark21 | simonrvn: if i may believe "ps aux | grep snmpd" and the ip it is listening on is at the end it is listening on a public ip |
| 12:03.21 | simonrvn | it gets harder to read enter key obssessed people when there's 20+ people talking at once. |
| 12:03.33 | mxmx | I totally agree |
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| 12:03.44 | Jaleks | valdyn: weird, the output of start/shutdown scripts reach the log generally, the 'echos' from the icewm preferences file which i placed in the logou/reboot/halt commands dont work |
| 12:04.00 | simonrvn | Mark21: netstat |
| 12:04.03 | Mark21 | mxmx: remove it from the monitoring done by DA if you want to start/stop/restart it with a root account |
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| 12:04.14 | Jaleks | valdyn: killall -9 pcmanfm wont work nevertheless, if i kill it manuallay, the shutdwon script continues |
| 12:04.30 | sobersabre | hi, |
| 12:04.44 | sobersabre | I have unzipped several files, and got strange entries in ls listing. |
| 12:04.50 | simonrvn | anyway, this is me wandering off again. |
| 12:04.52 | sobersabre | when ls -l I get this output: |
| 12:05.02 | Mark21 | mxmx: or directadmin will start it when you stop proftp as root |
| 12:05.13 | Jaleks | sobersabre: http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:05.15 | nsadmin | making everything in one run on sentence isn't so good either because if theres no punctuation you cant tell where to breathe or where theyre breathing either and it just irks some people so if you say alot but it doesnt say much that's not much good either |
| 12:05.37 | Mark21 | the outcome of "netstat -a | grep snmp" is "udp 0 0 hosted-by.streamse:snmp *:*" here |
| 12:05.43 | sobersabre | http://pastebin.com/dce7904e |
| 12:05.55 | Mark21 | hosted-by.streamservice.nl is the rdns for the ip it should listen on |
| 12:06.32 | sobersabre | Jaleks: here's the same link on debian paste: |
| 12:06.37 | sobersabre | http://paste.debian.net/32474/ |
| 12:06.42 | Jaleks | sobersabre: sry, np |
| 12:06.47 | Jaleks | sobersabre: just was afraid |
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| 12:06.58 | sobersabre | Jaleks: be brave :) |
| 12:07.08 | sobersabre | anyway, I can't remove these entries. |
| 12:07.11 | Mark21 | mxmx: if your proftp is not working on a server with directadmin you can ask me to look at it (as long as you run a current debian version) |
| 12:07.19 | sobersabre | it seems as if the dirent got messed up. |
| 12:07.23 | Jaleks | sobersabre: broken zip? |
| 12:07.29 | sobersabre | possibly |
| 12:07.37 | sobersabre | but, the thing is I can't delete the directory now |
| 12:07.38 | abrotman | sobersabre: force a filesystem fsck ? |
| 12:08.02 | sobersabre | what does the fsck check for ? |
| 12:08.04 | mxmx | Mark21 i am running etch, i tried upgrading to lenny with no success |
| 12:08.46 | sobersabre | it is also probable that there is some "irregular" filename, like filename with \n inside, etc. |
| 12:08.54 | mxmx | I do need to upgrade mysql |
| 12:08.59 | sobersabre | is there a command line tool to manipulate a dirent ? |
| 12:09.00 | Mark21 | you should not upgrade an operating system running directadmin (you will get many problems) |
| 12:09.14 | sobersabre | abrotman: I can't bring the machine down now. it serves things... |
| 12:09.15 | Mark21 | mxmx: look in /usr/local/directadmin/custombuild/ |
| 12:09.29 | Mark21 | and do: ./build all d |
| 12:09.34 | Mark21 | if i am correct |
| 12:09.38 | Mark21 | it will update all software |
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| 12:09.57 | mxmx | raelly |
| 12:10.22 | Mark21 | look in the options.conf in that directory to see what options you did select |
| 12:10.40 | Mark21 | it will update php + apache (httpd) + mysql + some other things |
| 12:11.13 | Mark21 | simonrvn: it is listening on 91.199.167.20 and port 161 (and both should be accessible from the system that has to read it) |
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| 12:11.28 | ma3x | hi |
| 12:11.37 | ma3x | can you ls directory over smb? |
| 12:11.52 | abrotman | try it |
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| 12:12.34 | johndoe | playing DRM encoded files possible on linux? |
| 12:13.01 | mxmx | doing it Mark21 |
| 12:13.24 | mxmx | i jstu ahte when it stops to ask me questions i dont have the answers to |
| 12:13.53 | mxmx | but then that's why I come here to bother |
| 12:13.54 | ma3x | how? |
| 12:14.04 | Mark21 | mxmx: for that it is the d at the end |
| 12:14.12 | Mark21 | it will use the defaults for all questions |
| 12:14.23 | mxmx | oh |
| 12:14.26 | mxmx | nice |
| 12:14.31 | mxmx | i need to read more on linux :/ |
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| 12:14.47 | Mark21 | mxmx: start reading the DirectAdmin forum and you will learn this |
| 12:14.49 | mxmx | you from the US Mark21? |
| 12:14.59 | mxmx | yeah i read ther sometimes |
| 12:15.03 | Mark21 | no, from NL (europe) |
| 12:15.17 | Mark21 | and read their knowledge base, there it is listed |
| 12:15.24 | mxmx | i use leaseweb :D |
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| 12:17.14 | mxmx | i've been using DA for 11 months without updating it |
| 12:17.26 | aurel42 | Anybody running nis? Should a nis server also be its own nis client? |
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| 12:19.31 | xxtjaxx | How can i Install new fonts in debian lenny with gnome? |
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| 12:21.08 | Mark21 | mxmx: remove roundrobin 0.1 asap |
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| 12:21.52 | pro-rsoft | Can a Packages file reference an external deb? |
| 12:21.53 | pif | hi, when watching video with mplayer or xine on my debian/sid box, the screen shuts off after 15 minutes or so, how can I disable that? |
| 12:22.12 | pro-rsoft | say, like Filename: http://somesite/i386/pkg_1.2.3_i386.deb |
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| 12:22.51 | cahoot | pif: try /msg dpkg dpms |
| 12:23.06 | pif | oki |
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| 12:24.44 | pif | cahoot: normally a video player should disable dpms, no? |
| 12:24.50 | pif | and re-enable it after |
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| 12:25.02 | cahoot | I don't konw what's normal |
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| 12:25.49 | cahoot | pif: maybe mplayer has an option to that effect |
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| 12:26.51 | pif | i'll ask #mplayer |
| 12:27.00 | pif | nothing obvious in the man page |
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| 12:27.55 | xxtjaxx | How can i install fonts? |
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| 12:28.36 | OldMonk | xxtjaxx: if it's packaged, just aptitude install the font package |
| 12:28.48 | xxtjaxx | and if not? |
| 12:29.16 | OldMonk | then hopefully there's be instructions on the font download page on how to install it |
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| 12:29.30 | xxtjaxx | not yet found |
| 12:29.48 | OldMonk | in general though fonts go into /usr/share/fonts/ |
| 12:30.32 | xxtjaxx | aha |
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| 12:33.34 | xxtjaxx | got it |
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| 12:35.51 | Mark21 | hello, somehow i cannot get snmpd (installed with apt-get) working, it is not returning snmp data when it is queried from another system (i did add that subnet, so it should allow readonly queries). ps aux says it is running, "netstat -an | grep 161" shows it is listening on the public ip (91.199.167.20) and port 161. |
| 12:36.11 | OldMonk | is a firewall blocking it? |
| 12:36.24 | xxtjaxx | OldMunk its pretty much easier as it seems just copy and paste it in there LOL |
| 12:36.26 | sladi | Hi! I created a package from source with Checkinstall but the binary ended up as /usr/local/bin instead of /usr/bin/obpager. Can I edit the deb now to change this? |
| 12:36.31 | OldMonk | does tcpdump show packets for port 161 reacing the system at all? |
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| 12:37.07 | OldMonk | xxtjaxx: basically yes, though as far as i can make out the configuration is pretty complex |
| 12:37.21 | OldMonk | <-- not an expert on fonts and their configurations |
| 12:37.22 | Mark21 | OldMonk: iptables-save | grep 161 << no output |
| 12:37.29 | xxtjaxx | sladi no better dont its normal that this happens as from base package install it always goes there |
| 12:37.33 | Mark21 | so i guess no firewall blocking it |
| 12:37.45 | OldMonk | Mark21: you can't be sure |
| 12:37.46 | pro-rsoft | Can a Packages file reference an external deb? |
| 12:37.47 | pro-rsoft | say, like Filename: http://somesite/i386/pkg_1.2.3_i386.deb |
| 12:37.57 | xxtjaxx | OldMonk, me too -.- |
| 12:38.06 | Mark21 | OldMonk: how can i check it? |
| 12:38.54 | Mark21 | "telnet 91.199.167.20 161" gives "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" |
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| 12:39.04 | OldMonk | Mark21: Mark21 you can't telnet to a udp port :) |
| 12:39.06 | xxtjaxx | pro-rsoft, yes it can as soe packages depend on non free or partially free software |
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| 12:39.22 | Mark21 | OldMonk: is there another option to check/test it? |
| 12:39.26 | pro-rsoft | xxtjaxx, ok thanks |
| 12:39.32 | xxtjaxx | pro-rsoft, but then they dont actually refrence that |
| 12:39.35 | Mark21 | or what is the best command with tcpdump to use? |
| 12:39.35 | OldMonk | Mark21: can you snmpwalk or equivalent from the local machine itself? |
| 12:39.37 | sladi | xxtjaxx: Thanks, I ask because I created two other packages before and they created everything normally. Wouldn't the next .deb try to overwrite /usr/local/bin ? |
| 12:39.39 | xxtjaxx | the servers do that |
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| 12:39.55 | xxtjaxx | posssibly |
| 12:40.00 | Mark21 | OldMonk: moment, i will need to look on how to do it before i can say yes or no |
| 12:40.00 | OldMonk | Mark21: tcpdump -ieth0 -q -t -n udp port 161 (or eth1 or eth2 or whatever) |
| 12:40.14 | OldMonk | Mark21: snmpwalk is the easiest that i remember |
| 12:40.14 | xxtjaxx | sladi u are wanna be package maintainer? |
| 12:40.16 | sladi | xxtjaxx: I see, thanks. :) |
| 12:40.55 | sladi | xxtjaxx: Well I'm really new to this, I just try to get these working in the first place. :) |
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| 12:41.11 | xxtjaxx | sladi me too |
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| 12:41.31 | sladi | xxtjaxx: there is no pager for openbox dock in the repos it seems. |
| 12:41.32 | xxtjaxx | sladi lets open an other thread |
| 12:42.08 | xxtjaxx | sladi the same applies to autokey |
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| 12:43.26 | sladi | xxtjaxx: You mean a texteditor? I don't know autokey |
| 12:45.08 | izua | is there a maximum number of connections |
| 12:45.27 | izua | i mean.. per session. is there a limit to the max number a user can do after one boot? |
| 12:45.37 | Mark21 | OldMonk: "snmpwalk -v 2c -c COMMUNITY 91.199.167.20" gives "Timeout: No Response from 91.199.167.20" and i just added the local ip range to be allowed to respond to |
| 12:45.52 | Mark21 | but now it takes a lot of time and nothing on the command line |
| 12:46.57 | OldMonk | Mark21: try 127.0.0.1 instead of the external IP. also, it maynot be a good idea to reveal your server IP addresses in an open channel |
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| 12:46.58 | Yagami | hi |
| 12:46.58 | OldMonk | Mark21: if possible, enable debugging in snmpd and check its logs |
| 12:46.58 | Mark21 | OldMonk: i don't care if someone knows my external ip |
| 12:47.06 | Mark21 | but thank you for noticing it |
| 12:47.09 | OldMonk | Mark21: *shrug* your call |
| 12:47.23 | Mark21 | it shouldn't listen on 127.0.0.1 if i am correct |
| 12:47.54 | OldMonk | Mark21: seeing the snmpd debug output is the only option left then |
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| 12:48.19 | Yagami | i have this problem for along time , i cant access packages.debian.org ... :( any tip ? |
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| 12:50.01 | xxtjaxx | Yagami, maybe another mirror should be good? |
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| 12:50.25 | Yagami | xxtjaxx: well , i tryed alot of them already |
| 12:50.46 | hanibana | hi all :) |
| 12:50.47 | xxtjaxx | all the recommended? |
| 12:50.47 | Yagami | xxtjaxx: do you have a known working mirror for you ? |
| 12:51.06 | xxtjaxx | imn germany? |
| 12:51.14 | hanibana | I have set up some debian hosts that get their time from a central NTP server (which its reference time is its hardware clock. I know that it's not recommended, but I couldn't convinced my boss!). |
| 12:51.38 | hanibana | Can NTP be configured in such a way that the NTP clients adjust their times "instantly" when the time of my master NTP server changes? |
| 12:52.38 | xxtjaxx | hanibana i think they will automatically switch to the new time as they depend on it anyway |
| 12:52.44 | OldMonk | hanibana: NTP has a broadcast on LAN feature IIRC |
| 12:53.03 | OldMonk | or maybe it's a protocol related to NTP -- worth looking up anyway |
| 12:53.11 | Yagami | xxtjaxx: all the debian website works , but not packages.debian.org. also , all mirrors send me to that url. is there another url for packages.debian.org mirrors ? |
| 12:53.35 | mavhc | what couldn't you convince your boss about? |
| 12:53.58 | xxtjaxx | ftp://ftp.packages.debian.org/ lenny main in ur sources list?= |
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| 12:55.13 | Yagami | xxtjaxx: i am not actually asking for mirrors for packages sources list, but for the web browing of packages on the web :) |
| 12:55.18 | abrotman | Yagami: the website or the sources ? |
| 12:55.32 | abrotman | Yagami: packages.debian.org website works fine here |
| 12:55.35 | Yagami | abrotman: the website |
| 12:55.37 | hanibana | mavhc: he say that I want to have the control of all of the "time" of hosts. |
| 12:55.45 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bash |
| 12:55.49 | Yagami | abrotman: weird , it always gets a server timeout in there |
| 12:55.55 | abrotman | sounds like a proxy issue ? |
| 12:56.08 | hanibana | mavhc: whenever I want, I be able to change them. |
| 12:56.09 | Yagami | abrotman: everything works fine , and i dont have any proxy |
| 12:56.15 | mavhc | he wishes to control TIME ITSELF! |
| 12:56.21 | Yagami | abrotman: everything else , i mean |
| 12:56.27 | hanibana | mavhc: YES! |
| 12:57.11 | hanibana | mavhc: any way. what do you think? is there a way for my question? |
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| 12:57.28 | OldMonk | hanibana: check out the LAN broadcast option |
| 12:57.51 | hanibana | OldMonk: thank u. Good clue :) |
| 12:58.13 | OldMonk | well, ``u'' left about 1/2 hour ago but i'll tell him you said thanks |
| 12:58.38 | Yagami | well , nevermind , not really important |
| 12:59.02 | Mark21 | OldMonk: http://91.199.167.27/log.log |
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| 12:59.44 | OldMonk | Mark21: er, that'll take some 20 minutes to load on my slow connection |
| 12:59.49 | Yagami | is there any way in aptitude to see what repository any package is using ? if testing or unstable ? |
| 12:59.57 | OldMonk | Mark21: can't you just pull out the parts relevant to our discussion? |
| 13:00.09 | OldMonk | Yagami: apt-cache policy package |
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| 13:00.39 | Mark21 | OldMonk: http://yourpaste.net/1830/ << for the error i did see directly |
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| 13:01.04 | OldMonk | Mark21: anyway, it seems to be complaining and dying when told to listen to ALL on UDP |
| 13:01.21 | OldMonk | maybe ALL isn't a valid IP specifier in this context? |
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| 13:03.02 | Mark21 | OldMonk: changed it to -DALL and not -D ALL at the end: http://yourpaste.net/1831/ |
| 13:03.22 | Yagami | OldMonk: ohh cool , thanks |
| 13:04.11 | OldMonk | Mark21: either it's not being run as root or some other program is listening on 161/udp |
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| 13:04.51 | OldMonk | are you running this as a regular user? |
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| 13:05.18 | OldMonk | geez, someone's asking for SCO help with some legacy system in the other channel :) |
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| 13:05.55 | Hamzifer | any suggestions on how to install a quicker (and i guess, less random) psuedo random number generator? /dev/urandom's too slow :/ |
| 13:06.13 | Mark21 | OldMonk: i am running it as root |
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| 13:07.07 | OldMonk | Mark21: then netstat -anep | fgrep :161 should tell you who's listening on 161/udp |
| 13:07.10 | Mark21 | let's kill everything at port 161 (somehow snmpd dit start) |
| 13:07.10 | mxmx | Mark21 how? |
| 13:07.21 | mxmx | i do know of the roundcube exploit |
| 13:07.33 | Mark21 | mxmx: cd /var/www/html/ |
| 13:07.39 | Mark21 | rm -r roundcub* |
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| 13:09.55 | OldMonk | bb in a while |
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| 13:10.21 | mxmx | thanks Mark21 |
| 13:10.38 | Mark21 | http://91.199.167.27/log.log << it is reading it and everyting is in there for as far as i can see (please note the file is around 1,2MB) |
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| 13:11.00 | Mark21 | mxmx: also update directadmin asap (can be done in directadmin) |
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| 13:14.05 | xxtjaxx | can somebody explain me why thios happens http://pastebin.com/m2ffc2308 ? ?? |
| 13:15.35 | ktwilight__ | xxtjaxx, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:17.30 | xxtjaxx | ktwilight__, http://pastebin.com/m6af45f9d here it ois |
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| 13:19.25 | ktwilight__ | xxtjaxx, what's lenny-proposed-updates? |
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| 13:20.25 | xxtjaxx | i didnt change it its all made by the source mirror program for software sources |
| 13:20.53 | ktwilight__ | no kidding... |
| 13:20.59 | ktwilight__ | what program is it? |
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| 13:27.43 | floerp | call me stupid but what packagename has "git"? |
| 13:28.00 | floerp | there are many git-something packges, i just need the raw checkout thing |
| 13:28.04 | Younix_ | apt-cache search git |
| 13:28.33 | floerp | that is far from being helpful ;) |
| 13:28.36 | rudi_s | floerp: git-core |
| 13:28.40 | redbass | lol |
| 13:28.40 | floerp | cheers |
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| 13:31.06 | wintix | is there a way to get udev to apply changes to devices without having to reboot? e.g. renames? |
| 13:31.20 | wintix | /etc/init.d/udev restart had no effect |
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| 13:33.35 | xxtjaxx | when i have a while and a case loop in a shell script and the shell says ./mkproj: line 532: syntax error: unexpected end of file what is wrong then? |
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| 13:34.04 | wintix | nevermind. stopping and starting udev works. restart however doesnt. thanks anyway. |
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| 13:34.37 | OldMonk | xxtjaxx: one of the constructs or a quoted string wasn't terminated |
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| 13:37.06 | OldMonk | notes a shell script with 532 lines is pretty big |
| 13:37.35 | Conic | Hey, anyone know anything about the Inspiron 530s? |
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| 13:37.55 | asg | Conic: check tuxmobile.org for that model |
| 13:38.18 | Conic | It's not a laptop. It's a desktop. |
| 13:39.20 | asg | they also cover desktops as well iirc |
| 13:39.40 | asg | or not |
| 13:40.31 | mxmx | done |
| 13:40.46 | mxmx | Mark21 i dont think mysql got updated |
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| 13:43.24 | Mark21 | mxmx: you will need to restart the mysql server |
| 13:43.38 | Mark21 | and what version for mysql do you have in options.conf? |
| 13:43.44 | mxmx | dur |
| 13:43.50 | mxmx | chcking |
| 13:43.59 | mxmx | where is options.conf located? |
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| 13:45.23 | Mark21 | in /usr/local/directadmin/custombuild/ or it is called option.conf |
| 13:45.26 | Mark21 | if i am correct |
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| 13:46.39 | mxmx | options.conf |
| 13:46.52 | mxmx | mysql=5.0 |
| 13:46.59 | mxmx | so rstart mysql from directadmin? |
| 13:47.21 | Mark21 | yes |
| 13:47.38 | Mark21 | it should install mysql 5.0 |
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| 13:49.01 | mxmx | hmm |
| 13:49.01 | mxmx | done |
| 13:49.08 | mxmx | but phpinfo still shows 4.10 |
| 13:49.15 | Conic | Okay, I found something |
| 13:49.16 | Conic | 3- After install, in linux as root make a new ramdisk with the ata_piix loaded before USB (mkinitrd --preload=ata_piix --image-version /boot/initrd <kernel version>) |
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| 13:49.33 | Conic | Would this be patched out by any updates? |
| 13:49.36 | Mark21 | mxmx: what does phpmyadmin say? |
| 13:49.43 | mxmx | checking |
| 13:50.15 | mxmx | Versión del servidor: 4.1.10-standard |
| 13:50.27 | mxmx | do i need tor estart soemthing esle? |
| 13:51.18 | Mark21 | mxmx: could you make your options.conf available for me? so i could check a few settings |
| 13:51.25 | Mark21 | use a pastebin for example |
| 13:51.32 | mxmx | yeah |
| 13:52.21 | Mark21 | just give me the url and i will check it |
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| 13:52.55 | mxmx | http://pastebin.ca/1382655 |
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| 13:53.41 | Toast1 | I'm migrating a home server. Can you think of anything important I need to backup other than /home /var and /etc? |
| 13:54.01 | Toast1 | The new machine has a fresh reinstall. |
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| 13:55.43 | Mark21 | mxmx: |
| 13:55.44 | Mark21 | # |
| 13:55.44 | Mark21 | mysql_inst=no |
| 13:55.44 | Mark21 | # |
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| 13:55.56 | Mark21 | mysql_backup=no |
| 13:56.00 | Mark21 | make them both yes |
| 13:57.12 | Jemt | Is anyone using Debian 5.0 Lenny on a laptop in here? I would like to know if anyone else is expirencing my problem: I'm unable to switch between the laptop's screen and an external monitor connected using the usual Fn + F7 (or F5) keyboard combination. It works fine in BIOS or when GRUB is showing. |
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| 13:57.52 | Mark21 | and do ./build mysql y |
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| 13:57.58 | Mark21 | it should update mysql |
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| 13:58.28 | mxmx | hm |
| 13:58.32 | mxmx | ok |
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| 13:59.25 | mxmx | ./build mysql y <--- like that? |
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| 13:59.34 | mxmx | without teh first epriod, ofc |
| 13:59.43 | mxmx | where do i do this? anywhere in root? |
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| 14:00.21 | Mark21 | mxmx: yes, including the first dot |
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| 14:00.33 | Mark21 | in /usr/local/directadmin/custombuild/ |
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| 14:00.56 | Gruelius | hi all following the guide here http://tinyurl.com/2exfuv and i need some help relating these /sys/class/scsi_disk/0:0:0:0 to devices |
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| 14:02.47 | mxmx | done |
| 14:02.49 | mxmx | i got this message |
| 14:02.49 | mxmx | It is recommended to do "./build php n" after MySQL update. |
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| 14:03.16 | Mark21 | so you know what to do next ;) |
| 14:03.26 | Mark21 | read: ./build php n |
| 14:03.33 | Mark21 | or ./build php y |
| 14:03.35 | mxmx | hehe |
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| 14:03.38 | Mark21 | both are fine |
| 14:03.56 | mxmx | i jsut dont liek to go steps ahead when gettign instructions :_0 |
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| 14:04.08 | mxmx | what is th y for? |
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| 14:04.58 | Mark21 | all questions will be answerd with yes |
| 14:05.02 | mxmx | ok |
| 14:05.05 | Mark21 | so everything will be build again |
| 14:05.20 | Mark21 | if you also want to upgrade php it is best to use the y at the end |
| 14:05.36 | cnu | can i have 2.6.29 kernel with debian testing? |
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| 14:07.01 | Mark21 | cnu: it should be possible |
| 14:08.17 | cnu | Mark21, can i just borrow it from "unstable" or is that likely to make something explode? |
| 14:09.46 | Mark21 | it can go wrong, I didn't test it |
| 14:10.05 | cnu | well if it's not very big chance it will go wrong i'll try :p thank you! |
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| 14:15.38 | mxmx | voila! |
| 14:15.38 | mxmx | v |
| 14:15.39 | mxmx | Client API version 5.0.51a |
| 14:16.05 | Mark21 | you're welcome :) |
| 14:16.21 | mxmx | thanks a lot dude |
| 14:16.36 | mxmx | been up sonce 2am tryign to figure it out |
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| 14:16.41 | mxmx | its 9 am now |
| 14:17.28 | OldMonk | mxmx: working on a web-site project? :) |
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| 14:18.03 | mxmx | OldMonk several |
| 14:18.09 | Mark21 | mxmx: next time, just ask here and when i see it i will help (i run a few systems with DA) |
| 14:18.16 | mxmx | and one fo them needed mysql 5.0 |
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| 14:18.22 | mxmx | nice |
| 14:18.31 | mxmx | any infamous websites u run? |
| 14:18.33 | OldMonk | i can imagine the rush to try to get it fixed then |
| 14:18.34 | Mark21 | i am not running mysql 4.x any more |
| 14:18.42 | Mark21 | not really (at least not that i can give) |
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| 14:18.57 | mxmx | ah i see |
| 14:18.58 | Mark21 | just hosting a few mirrors/nodes for opensource software that i can give |
| 14:19.13 | mxmx | well i do a local campain |
| 14:19.30 | mxmx | where I dont a monthly flat rate |
| 14:19.32 | mxmx | for websites |
| 14:19.35 | mxmx | includes design |
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| 14:19.41 | mxmx | domain name and hosting |
| 14:19.48 | mxmx | for small bussiness |
| 14:20.08 | mxmx | most deigners ehre want to cahrge no less than 400 dlls for a website project |
| 14:20.13 | mxmx | so noone can afford that |
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| 14:21.04 | Mark21 | is still working on that annoying snmpd problem :( |
| 14:21.17 | Mark21 | mxmx: grisham.freenode.net and nl.php.net are hosted by us |
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| 14:22.07 | mxmx | cool |
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| 14:28.34 | Malaiac3 | hiho |
| 14:29.02 | mxmx | hmm |
| 14:29.10 | mxmx | Please fix magic_quotes_gpc in your PHP config <-- wher eis the php config for direct admin Mark21? |
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| 14:29.33 | Malaiac | i have a mini crawler in bash + wget , runs ok. symptoms : over 7000 actives connections (netstat in munin graph) , keep growing, load rising... any idea ? |
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| 14:30.56 | Mark21 | mxmx: /usr/local/php.ini or something similair |
| 14:31.03 | Mark21 | look in a file with phpinfo() |
| 14:31.44 | Maior | Malaiac: fsvo "active" |
| 14:31.49 | mxmx | ah |
| 14:31.50 | mxmx | yeah |
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| 14:32.16 | Maior | Malaiac: which probably includes TIME_WAIT |
| 14:32.25 | Malaiac | fsvo : command not found :( |
| 14:32.30 | Ergo^ | hello, im looking for any working MAME ui frontend for debian lenny |
| 14:32.44 | Maior | Malaiac: "for some value of" |
| 14:32.55 | xxtjaxx | Ergo^, MAME? |
| 14:33.00 | Malaiac | oops |
| 14:33.05 | xxtjaxx | Ergo^, dunno what that is |
| 14:33.12 | Malaiac | english as a secondary language :) |
| 14:33.15 | Ergo^ | MAME arcade emulator ;-) |
| 14:33.18 | Maior | Malaiac: sure, sorry |
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| 14:33.34 | Malaiac | see my munin here http://88.191.28.40/malaiac/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain.html |
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| 14:33.44 | ribasushi | hi |
| 14:33.53 | Malaiac | basically, when load goes straight down, it's me interrupting the cron and waiting for the wget to finish |
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| 14:34.01 | Gruelius | hi all |
| 14:34.03 | Maior | Malaiac: right, yes, iirc munin's definition of "active" includes sockets in TIME_WAIT |
| 14:34.13 | Malaiac | oh ok |
| 14:34.35 | Maior | Malaiac: and shouldn't be a problem |
| 14:34.35 | Malaiac | but still, the bash script can launch less and less wget (in background) voer the time ... |
| 14:34.39 | Gruelius | cat /dev/sda is harmless yeah? |
| 14:34.46 | ribasushi | there is a file /usr/share/bind9/bind9-default.md5sum which seems to be holding the md5sum of /etc/default/bind9. However this file is also somehow recoded/checked by debsums, which generates false positives |
| 14:34.48 | TeLLuS | I'm using a nForce2 Ethernet with forcedeth that is working for a minute then it stops all communication in new sid Linux 2.6.29 kernel. No log. The 2.6.26 kernel is ok. Anything special that could make it work as it should? |
| 14:34.50 | Gruelius | i need a cmd to access the hdd |
| 14:34.52 | Gruelius | to stop it from sleeping |
| 14:34.56 | onur | Hi. I add a debian cd with apt-cdrom to my apt's cache. But when i try to install a package from this official cd, apt is saying this source untrusted. I guess i should add cd's gpg key to my apt's trusted keys. But there is no such key in cd. How can i trustable my cd? |
| 14:34.57 | Maior | Gruelius: probably leaves your terminal a bit squiffy, but yes |
| 14:35.00 | ribasushi | how do I stop debsums looking at the md5sum of this partuclar file? |
| 14:35.05 | Maior | Gruelius: I think you want hdparm |
| 14:35.08 | Gruelius | nah |
| 14:35.13 | Gruelius | the firmware of the hdd has a built in sleep timer |
| 14:35.18 | Maior | Malaiac: ah right, so you're actually exhausting it |
| 14:35.27 | Malaiac | Maior: it seems so |
| 14:35.30 | Gruelius | maior: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/DealWithAutoSpinDownOnSeagateFreeAgent |
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| 14:35.49 | Malaiac | I could launch 4000 wget in background every minutes the first times, now i'm down to 400 |
| 14:35.56 | Gruelius | maior: disks came from usb enclosures and i cant overwrite the settngs in the firmware, hdparm says its registering the cmd butr has no effect |
| 14:36.07 | Malaiac | not 4000, 2000 |
| 14:36.10 | Maior | Malaiac: consider setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_recycle to 1 |
| 14:36.19 | Maior | Malaiac: but be aware of the potential issues involved |
| 14:36.21 | Gruelius | maior: so only solution is to access the disk in a non invasive way every so minutes |
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| 14:36.35 | Maior | Gruelius: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/zero count=1 |
| 14:37.01 | Malaiac | Maior: issues being ? the small dedi server works only on that project for the time being |
| 14:37.03 | Gruelius | lmao that sounds very dangerous |
| 14:37.10 | Maior | Gruelius: why? |
| 14:37.19 | Gruelius | im making a joke |
| 14:37.25 | Maior | Gruelius: because you don't know dd and assume so, or? |
| 14:37.27 | Maior | ah right |
| 14:37.28 | Gruelius | cause im sure id accidentally zero out my hdd somehow |
| 14:37.29 | Gruelius | lol |
| 14:37.47 | Gruelius | ive used it before without learning params |
| 14:37.50 | Maior | Malaiac: are you at all familiar with the concept of TIME_WAIT? |
| 14:37.59 | Malaiac | not so much |
| 14:38.08 | Malaiac | i just found that http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.kernel.obscure.html |
| 14:38.12 | Malaiac | any good doc about it ? |
| 14:38.17 | Maior | Malaiac: so, very very roughly |
| 14:38.21 | Gruelius | had one of those weeks, blew up one hdd (in raid1 array thank god), readded a dirty mdadm raid5 member accidentally nad had fs corruption e.t.c. :( |
| 14:38.50 | Maior | Malaiac: if I browse to google.com, I'll connect to their port 80, from "a random" port locally |
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| 14:39.17 | Maior | Malaiac: when I "close" that connection, then, on my end, it'll enter the TIME_WAIT state |
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| 14:39.34 | Malaiac | ok |
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| 14:40.30 | Maior | Malaiac: this is so it's "held" for a while, so that, if there's any lingering data from google.com that gets sent to me (on that port), it's less likely that that local port will be picked up by another program, that will be confused by receiving old data from a previous connection |
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| 14:40.46 | Malaiac | actually, when the wget are launched in background, i still see them in ps aux for a few seconds (10-80 seconds), while the data is already stored in the destination files |
| 14:41.02 | Maior | (because a program won't be able to use it until it exits the TIME_WAIT state, so will use a different port) |
| 14:41.23 | Maior | (that's a very rough and not entirely accurate description, but I think it's sufficient_ |
| 14:41.26 | Malaiac | ok |
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| 14:41.44 | Malaiac | so by setting recycle to 1, i risk losing some data at the end of long connections ? |
| 14:41.48 | Maior | no |
| 14:41.56 | Maior | you risk other things receiving spurious data |
| 14:42.14 | Gruelius | maior dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/zero count=1 doesnt "wake" the disks but cat /dev/sda does |
| 14:42.24 | Maior | Gruelius: then increase the count |
| 14:42.29 | Maior | Gruelius: or introduce a random offset |
| 14:42.31 | Malaiac | ok |
| 14:42.40 | Malaiac | im going to take the risk :) |
| 14:42.49 | Maior | Malaiac: http://www.developerweb.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2941 is relevant |
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| 14:42.53 | Gruelius | ty |
| 14:42.59 | Malaiac | should I set tcp_tw_reuse to 1 too ? |
| 14:43.00 | mxmx | tiem to sleep |
| 14:43.09 | mxmx | see ya |
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| 14:43.23 | Gruelius | Maior is there a problem if i read outside of /dev/sda |
| 14:43.27 | Gruelius | like if iset blocks too large |
| 14:43.33 | Gruelius | i mean count |
| 14:43.46 | Maior | Malaiac: pass, I don't remember that setting |
| 14:43.49 | Maior | Gruelius: no |
| 14:43.49 | Malaiac | ok |
| 14:44.03 | Maior | Malaiac: actually, wait |
| 14:44.13 | Malaiac | I just "/proc/sys/net/ipv4# echo 1 > tcp_tw_recycle" is the setting now active ? |
| 14:44.21 | Maior | now I think about it, 7000 shouldn't be enough to prompt changing the TIME_WAIT stuff |
| 14:44.29 | Maior | and it's highly possible you have other issues |
| 14:44.34 | Maior | may I see your crawl script? |
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| 14:44.39 | Malaiac | ok |
| 14:44.42 | Malaiac | pm |
| 14:44.46 | twobitsprite | what ever happened to ATI opensourcing their drivers? when I google for it, all I find are articles from 2-3 years ago hyping it up, but no where actually talking about them being ready |
| 14:45.09 | Maior | no |
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| 14:46.27 | cantoma | hey guys everytime i look into my dmesg i see a lot of "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x81 on isa0060/serio0)" and yes Its a microsoft keyboard and the distro is lenny!! Why is this happening?! How to solve it?! |
| 14:47.05 | Gruelius | Maior: that still doesnt seem to work. is there a way i can get cat to be silent? |
| 14:47.30 | Maior | Gruelius: cat /dev/sda > /dev/null |
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| 14:47.59 | Malaiac | Maior: are u reading pm ? |
| 14:48.14 | Maior | Malaiac: right, sorry, need to dash, but good luck getting it sorted - I suspect, after actually reading the numbers more closely, TIME_WAIT isn't the issue, and your crawl script has issues |
| 14:48.15 | Gruelius | maior: i actually realised soemthing lol. I thought that outputted 8 characters but it only did that cause the disk was still spinning up. the actual cat cpommand outputs alot =\ ill see if dd keeps the disk up once its awake |
| 14:48.23 | Maior | Malaiac: no, I don't read pm |
| 14:48.49 | Malaiac | ok ... here is the script http://pastebin.com/d64f40331 |
| 14:48.52 | Maior | Gruelius: yeah, that'll probably be it pulling from the disk cache, then stalling |
| 14:48.59 | Malaiac | thx for the info, Maior |
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| 14:49.09 | TheSHAD0W | In case no one else has posted this... |
| 14:49.11 | TheSHAD0W | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090405 |
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| 14:49.34 | seniorake | could one explain to me how i can compute the max. amount of files within one single directory? |
| 14:49.40 | seniorake | the FS is ext3 |
| 14:50.14 | Maior | Malaiac: I think you want to wrap $url in quotes so the &s don't get expanded |
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| 14:50.54 | Maior | seniorake: I'm not sure your question makes sense - if you really mean "the max amount of files" - that's not a computation, that's a property of ext3 |
| 14:51.02 | Malaiac | like "${url}" instead of $url ? |
| 14:51.10 | Maior | Malaiac: no, like "$url" |
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| 14:51.31 | Maior | seniorake: (well, ok, one derived from computation - is that what you mean?) |
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| 14:52.07 | seniorake | well, wikipedia lists some formula, but i'm not sure how to use it. i'v got a directory and it is most likely that there'll be more than 500k files one day in it - i'm not sure if ext3 can handle that since i believe that i read somewhere that the max. per directory is 65536 or so |
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| 14:52.42 | ribasushi | seniorake: you've read wrong |
| 14:52.43 | seniorake | or - that the performance decreases dramaticaly .. |
| 14:52.55 | ribasushi | seniorake: what is it you want to do - what is the application |
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| 14:53.06 | seniorake | storing images |
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| 14:53.37 | pro-rsoft | Hmm, how can I reference URL's in the "Filename" field of a Packages file? or is that not possible? |
| 14:53.37 | ribasushi | seniorake: average size? |
| 14:53.54 | seniorake | hard to guess. a few kb and up to 4MB or so |
| 14:54.04 | ribasushi | seniorake: multiple updates, or mostly write-once read-many? |
| 14:54.32 | seniorake | write once, read multiple times, delete after a while when it was not read for some time (e.g. 2 months) |
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| 14:55.02 | ribasushi | seniorake: ext3 will be fine |
| 14:55.08 | ssd1 | hi iam looking for antivirus with realm time protection...anyone have some idea ? |
| 14:55.13 | ribasushi | seniorake: besides you can always test it |
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| 14:55.36 | seniorake | http://www.heise.de/bilder/104859/2/1 |
| 14:55.38 | seniorake | look at this |
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| 14:55.48 | seniorake | x is # of files within the directory |
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| 14:55.59 | seniorake | y is requests per sec i think |
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| 14:56.20 | seniorake | you see how the performance goes down at ~300k+ files |
| 14:56.20 | ribasushi | seniorake: with cold caches - yes |
| 14:56.26 | seniorake | meaning? |
| 14:56.40 | ribasushi | seniorake: meaning that parsing the hashes for the first time is expensive |
| 14:56.50 | TeLLuS | nForce2 Ethernet forcedeth work for a minute or two then stops all communication like the link is down but it is still up. This in new sid Linux 2.6.29 kernel. No syslog. The 2.6.26 kernel is ok. Howto make it work longer or ask in a other channel? |
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| 14:56.56 | ribasushi | seniorake: but you will not be rebooting your machine after every request, so stuff will be already in memory |
| 14:56.58 | rafaweborama | hi |
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| 14:57.08 | seniorake | the disk cache? |
| 14:57.17 | ribasushi | seniorake: best way - bang up a one liner to populate a directory with 500k files, and see what the result is |
| 14:57.32 | ribasushi | seniorake: when something can be easily tested guesswork is moot |
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| 14:58.05 | rafaweborama | i have installed with apt-get visualboyadvance but i cant run it :( im using xfce |
| 14:58.14 | seniorake | hm. what if i create 36 subdirectories, lengt: 1 char, meaning 0-9 and a-z, e.g. /files/images/1/, /files/images/2/ .. and store images starting with 1 in name in the first directory, 2 -> second, and so on |
| 14:58.17 | cantoma | does someone knows how can i look if my current system detects any serial ports? |
| 14:58.19 | seniorake | i think that would pass? |
| 14:58.44 | ribasushi | seniorake: this will help yes |
| 14:58.55 | ribasushi | seniorake: but even if you do not do this, I thionk you will still be ok |
| 14:58.55 | seniorake | it is most likely that i'll switch to ext4 when it is stable, but i'm not sure how ext4 handles this issue |
| 14:58.57 | FabParma | does exist a way to hide the kernel post with a image wile the pc startup? |
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| 14:59.11 | OldMonk | cantoma: look for ttyS in /var/log/dmesg |
| 14:59.31 | rafaweborama | can u help me? did u know if does exist a deb of gba emulator? |
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| 15:03.49 | twobitsprite | TeLLuS: why do you need to run the sid kernel? |
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| 15:04.43 | Luffy1980 | in Debian Linux kernel v. 2.6.29 I've found the option CONFIG_GENERIC_ALLOCATOR=y in the Library routines section, but doing the kernel configuration by myself I can't find that option. What does it refer to? |
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| 15:12.30 | Twixboy_ | http://www.meine-exschlampe.com/?ID=268469 |
| 15:12.56 | TeLLuS | twobitsprite: I always run the sid kernel on that machine. :) I'l try try the Ubuntu mainline kernel instead.. if I get the same it an Linux bug and if not its a Debian bug.. |
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| 15:13.47 | martianlobster | how cat I see if the setuid attribute is set on or off, for a given executable? |
| 15:13.59 | asg | martianlobster: ls -l |
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| 15:15.05 | martianlobster | asg, when I do ls -lt /bin/mount, I see -rwsr-xr-x which one of these is the setuid attribute? the s? |
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| 15:15.10 | Twixboy_ | http://www.meine-exschlampe.com/?ID=268469 |
| 15:15.13 | Twixboy_ | http://www.meine-exschlampe.com/?ID=268469 |
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| 15:15.24 | asg | martianlobster: the 's' in rws indicates the setuid bit |
| 15:15.30 | martianlobster | asg: thanks |
| 15:15.35 | asg | !ops Twixboy_ is spamming |
| 15:15.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: asg complains about: Twixboy_ is spamming |
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| 15:16.15 | Twixboy_ | http://www.meine-exschlampe.com/?ID=268469 |
| 15:16.23 | Twixboy_ | http://www.meine-exschlampe.com/?ID=268469 |
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| 15:17.40 | castingcrowns | wow, some people are real asses. |
| 15:17.56 | asg | nods |
| 15:18.02 | ribasushi | but Sabine looks hot |
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| 15:19.40 | martianlobster | lol @ ribasushi |
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| 15:28.02 | bitshuffler | Hello. Is anyone around by change who happens to know the name of the package containing the "hostname" command on Debian 4? |
| 15:28.12 | bitshuffler | s/change/chance/ |
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| 15:28.41 | at0m|c | now go sign up Twixdude for some free smileys and russian girl chatter |
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| 15:29.03 | at0m|c | or let's all click together :> |
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| 15:29.58 | hark | bitshuffler: hostname .. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 15:29.59 | asg | bitshuffler: it's in the hostname package |
| 15:30.16 | OldMonk | bitshuffler: hostname |
| 15:30.41 | bitshuffler | hark: Thanks, I'm not on debain atm so apt-file isn't really an option |
| 15:30.42 | JordiGH | Suppose I want to be able to ssh from A to B to C without using passwords.. obviously my private key should only be in A. Is there some setup I have to put in B so that when I ssh into C it knows to get my private key from A? |
| 15:30.49 | bitshuffler | asg: OldMonk Thanks a lot :) |
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| 15:31.17 | asg | JordiGH: as long as your public key is on B and C, you can ssh -A <b> and from there ssh <c> |
| 15:31.34 | hark | bitshuffler: you can use packages.debian.org to search as well |
| 15:31.34 | at0m|c | JordiGH: "agent forwarding" |
| 15:31.53 | JordiGH | Aha, I see, thank you. |
| 15:32.04 | bitshuffler | hark: that's sweet - didn't know that, thanks :) |
| 15:32.13 | hark | np |
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| 15:36.38 | martianlobster | I am reading about mknod here, http://www.docs.hp.com/en/B2355-90675/apcs05.html, What is a character device? would this be something like a serial port? as opposed to something like a hard drive, where the data is read in blocks? |
| 15:37.19 | OldMonk | martianlobster: effectively, yes |
| 15:37.25 | martianlobster | OldMonk: thanks |
| 15:37.53 | p0g0 | martian67: think data streams of unkown lenght, vs fixed length reads. |
| 15:38.01 | OldMonk | martianlobster: basically an interface that returns a stream of data, as opposed to one that return data in discrete size blocks |
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| 15:38.46 | kerber | i've got an notebook core2duo 2.1ghz 64bits, the right choice is IA64 ? |
| 15:39.02 | martianlobster | OldMonk: ok thanks |
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| 15:43.08 | smartd_ | hi have debian server connected to a cisco router and can ping any address on the internet.BUt cant browse some web sites like yahoo, and hotmail. |
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| 15:46.15 | asg | smartd_: /msg dpkg ecn (that may be at fault depending on your router firmware and debian version) |
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| 15:47.42 | smartd_ | asg cant figure out what u mean |
| 15:47.52 | asg | !ecn |
| 15:47.52 | dpkg | ecn is, like, Explicit Congestion Notification - a TCP/IP feature which should be supported by the whole Internet, but unfortunately, some broken firewalls don't like it. To disable: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn . To disable permanently, echo net/ipv4/tcp_ecn=0 >> /etc/sysctl.conf . See also http://p12n.org/kb/ecn.html; you can disable ECN via iptables selectively |
| 15:47.58 | asg | smartd_: ^^ |
| 15:49.43 | smartd_ | well will have a look at that |
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| 15:53.28 | asperon | how would i install 2.6.24 under lenny? |
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| 16:04.53 | jimfigs | i just donated (bought) Elive and installed it under VMWare Workstation and after the install is complete and I reboot the username and password does not work for the root or the user that I setup during the install. I tried reinstalling again and still no go, i was very carefull about entering my username and password and know that I am entering it in right but it will not let me login. Please Help |
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| 16:05.49 | xxtjaxx | I want to send and recieve email over a intranet but i cant figure out how to do that any idea? |
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| 16:06.16 | idimmu | xxtjaxx: gmail? |
| 16:06.19 | Eulex | elive |
| 16:06.24 | Eulex | !elive |
| 16:06.25 | dpkg | elive is a livecd (installable) project based on Debian with additional packages for E17. It is not Debian. Supported in #elive (FN, irc.freenode.net). |
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| 16:07.02 | jimfigs | i know that |
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| 16:07.24 | jimfigs | however i am not getting any answers there, i know its not debian but it is debian based |
| 16:08.11 | xxtjaxx | idimmu huh? I mean something like mailin via a html page where i can writ text and the push a button and send it to the users account in /var/mail/ |
| 16:08.17 | Eulex | #debian can't take responsibility to support all debian-based distros, even if they happen to have bad support. |
| 16:08.39 | idimmu | gmail is webbased ..? |
| 16:08.50 | jimfigs | im not asking that you take responsibility, im jsut asking for help |
| 16:09.06 | martianlobster | can I run a linux machine without a swap drive? |
| 16:09.27 | adb | sudo -i , maybe jimfigs |
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| 16:09.32 | xxtjaxx | idimmu I dont want to use gmail i need something really basic |
| 16:09.44 | Eulex | martianlobster, yes, but it is preferable to either have a swap file or swap partition. |
| 16:10.07 | Eulex | martianlobster, depends how much ram the machine in question has, tho |
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| 16:10.08 | adb | er , no |
| 16:10.13 | idimmu | maybe you want the mail command? |
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| 16:10.22 | jimfigs | Eulex - I thought linux was about openess and community, your sure not helpfull |
| 16:10.38 | idimmu | jimfigs: sillyface |
| 16:11.06 | Eulex | jimfigs, this channel is a support channel for debian, not for debian-based distros. the latter is off-topic here. |
| 16:11.14 | jimfigs | Im just a guy looking for help where I can get it |
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| 16:12.26 | paxcoder | The gnome-menu debian-style Icon. Since when is it in squeeze? Today? |
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| 16:13.29 | paxcoder | yes/no? |
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| 16:15.01 | ghang | hi,i face a probelm, i install too much library then sudenly my debian cannot connect to internet, i guess i need to reconfigure my networkcard or reinstall network card , how can i do that ? |
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| 16:15.06 | Geoff__ | i cannot upload any images to image shack or others from firefox/konq |
| 16:15.55 | paxcoder | meh, only questions today. |
| 16:16.22 | Geoff__ | plz guys...it imp. |
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| 16:17.20 | Geoff__ | hello |
| 16:17.24 | Geoff__ | help |
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| 16:19.31 | Geoff__ | i cannot upload any images to image shack or others from firefox/konq...plz help |
| 16:21.21 | Rusty1_ | Geoff__, js enabled , right? |
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| 16:21.50 | Geoff__ | yes |
| 16:22.01 | Geoff__ | in fire fox its called something |
| 16:22.21 | Geoff__ | icedtea java web plugin |
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| 16:23.08 | martianlobster | Eulex: ok thanks |
| 16:23.11 | Geoff__ | what could be the problem, do i need to install any packages |
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| 16:24.22 | person | How do I use regexp's in aptitude? |
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| 16:24.26 | tomi | hi |
| 16:24.41 | Rusty1_ | Geoff__, when you open the imageshack webpage do you see a message that you need to enable javascript? |
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| 16:25.43 | Eulex | Geoff__, define 'cannot' |
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| 16:28.11 | Geoff__ | no |
| 16:28.19 | Geoff__ | java is enabled |
| 16:28.25 | roe | gnome 2.24 is taking its time getting from experimental to sid |
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| 16:28.55 | tomi | when i made tag in subversion, then when i made checkout i will not dowload tag? |
| 16:29.18 | orgthingy | debian repos sometimes needs to stop being nany-repo |
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| 16:30.17 | varney | hi, can someone guide me how to solve this swsusb problem on Debian, i moved my HD's around and now i fixed the /etc/fstab fine, but for some reason i have to keep using 'noresume' on the grub commandline before boot, or the system will 'fail to resume', and when i use noresume it boots ok but i see root is mounted on /, /dev/.static/dev, what's that about? |
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| 16:31.15 | deed02392 | hi all, i'm having a rather major issue with apt*, lm-sensors appears to broken, and it attempts to recover this on EVERY install/remove, usually it would do what i asked before hanging on lm-sensors but now it tries to do that first, and i can't use aptitude. i tried removing lm-sensors and dpkg complains the package is in very inconsistent state and i should reinstall it first, however, it will not reinstall, this always fails. |
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| 16:31.49 | varney | i even tried to aptitude remove (u)swsusp, but apt doesn't seem to find the package |
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| 16:32.35 | Geoff__ | java -splash said could not create java virtual machine |
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| 16:35.04 | Geoff__ | java -splash said could not create java virtual machine . is java not installed |
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| 16:35.51 | tomi | Can i use part of svn repo? |
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| 16:38.02 | Eulex | tomi, yes, you can check out a subdirectory of an svn repo, if that's what you're asking. |
| 16:38.46 | tomi | Thanks Eulex |
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| 16:39.30 | deed02392 | hi all, i'm having a rather major issue with apt*, lm-sensors appears to broken, and it attempts to recover this on EVERY install/remove, usually it would do what i asked before hanging on lm-sensors but now it tries to do that first, and i can't use aptitude. i tried removing lm-sensors and dpkg complains the package is in very inconsistent state and i should reinstall it first, however, it will not reinstall, this always fails. |
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| 16:41.32 | varney | hi, can someone guide me how to solve this swsusb problem on Debian, i moved my HD's around and now i fixed the /etc/fstab fine, but for some reason i have to keep using 'noresume' on the grub commandline before boot, or the system will 'fail to resume', and when i use noresume it boots ok but i see root is mounted on /, /dev/.static/dev, what's that about? |
| 16:41.35 | varney | i even tried to aptitude remove (u)swsusp, but apt doesn't seem to find the package |
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| 16:43.36 | ma3x | why does ls -l | wc -l show 7 files when there are 6 in that directory |
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| 16:43.59 | poncha|work | question ... does anyone have any idea why mysql-server is 5.0 in lenny ? mysql 5.1 is stable for a very very long time now... more than a year i think |
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| 16:44.19 | Abueleitor | hi all |
| 16:44.33 | Abueleitor | someone can help me please? |
| 16:44.54 | Abueleitor | i have an problem, (a wireless one) |
| 16:44.54 | poncha|work | Abueleitor: ask your question and see if anyone has a clue.. |
| 16:45.16 | Abueleitor | ok |
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| 16:46.11 | deed02392 | ahhh |
| 16:46.17 | deed02392 | please someone help me with my aptitude issu |
| 16:46.29 | Abueleitor | i have just installed debian lenny 5. I have a p4, 1g ram computer. I have a usb belking wireless not fully working |
| 16:47.29 | poncha|work | Abueleitor: define not fully working ? |
| 16:47.29 | Abueleitor | i can see networks, but cannot connect to them |
| 16:47.48 | Abueleitor | when i try to connect it simply cannot do. I tried to install a new firmware |
| 16:48.00 | Abueleitor | on lib/firmware |
| 16:48.04 | spacepluk | some routers have a button to accept new mac addresses for some seconds/minutes |
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| 16:48.34 | Eulex | poncha|work, usually in those situations, either it was simply released too late to be considered for lenny, or it was considered too unstable for lenny (debian does its own testing, it does not rely on upstream saying "this software is stable") |
| 16:48.35 | aetheria_ | does debian have a port to the new atom architecture? |
| 16:48.51 | Eulex | aetheria_, uh, isn't atom x86? |
| 16:48.57 | poncha|work | Abueleitor: do you get some error message when trying to connect? btw, are you connecting manually or with wifi-radar or smth like that ? |
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| 16:49.13 | aetheria_ | also, looking at the list of debian ports, did they jettison a bunch of them recently? looks like there are fewer than there used to be |
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| 16:49.24 | spacepluk | Eulex: ubuntu has lpia, which is supposed to be compiled with some optimization flags |
| 16:49.27 | Abueleitor | i am using gnome-wireless wigdget |
| 16:49.36 | aetheria_ | Eulex: hmm, not sure. checking... |
| 16:49.48 | Eulex | spacepluk, uh? |
| 16:49.53 | poncha|work | Eulex: 5.1 was released looong ago :( actually i was sad it wasnt in etch, since 5.1 branch was marked by mysql stable soon after etch was stable... |
| 16:50.21 | Eulex | poncha|work, see second point then |
| 16:50.23 | spacepluk | Eulex: I mean atom is x86 but ubunut people has that architecture in the repos |
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| 16:50.32 | poncha|work | and its a pity since 5.1 has a lot of very useful new features |
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| 16:50.36 | aetheria_ | Eulex: you are right. from Wikipedia "Intel Atom is the brand name for a line of x86 and x86-64 CPUs" |
| 16:50.45 | poncha|work | so i'm gonna have to compile it |
| 16:50.53 | Syrogen | erm is EngineX = nginx? |
| 16:50.58 | Abueleitor | i tried to do with iwconfig but is the same, no errors shown .. |
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| 16:51.14 | Eulex | aetheria_, then you should be able to run i386 or amd64 on it |
| 16:51.17 | aetheria_ | so Atom is more like a CPU type within an arch |
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| 16:51.29 | deed02392 | can anyone here help with fixing aptitude? |
| 16:51.33 | poncha|work | Abueleitor: and nothing in the logs? (syslog?) |
| 16:51.44 | spacepluk | aetheria_: i386 packages are working fine in my netbook |
| 16:51.49 | Abueleitor | i didnt see it |
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| 16:52.42 | Abueleitor | humm, i will try to look for, but if someone knows something his help will be very apreciated |
| 16:53.02 | ma3x | why does ls -l | wc -l show 7 files when there are 6 in that directory |
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| 16:53.04 | Eulex | spacepluk, debian is usually conservative with adding packages or arches specifically optimized for a particular type of cpu within an arch |
| 16:53.17 | nvti | ma3x: is it reading .. as a file? |
| 16:53.27 | Eulex | spacepluk, would that lpia thingy be something similar to emdebian? |
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| 16:53.28 | ma3x | nvti: i don't honestly know |
| 16:53.34 | Eulex | !emdebian |
| 16:53.34 | dpkg | i heard emdebian is a project focused on extending Debian's reach into the embedded space; it is an independent project and not formally associated with the Debian distribution [yet]. It aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded Linux. Check out http://www.emdebian.org/ as well as http://familiar.handhelds.org/ or #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 16:53.46 | nvti | ma3x: there could be a hidden file, also |
| 16:53.52 | ma3x | nvti: there isn't any |
| 16:54.08 | aebonyne | Hi, I am using Debian sid on amd64 and I recently deleted a large file from a nearly full xfs partition, but it does not show any more free space. I checked lsof (nothing open on the entire partition), but it still would not let me unmount/remount read-only. I just restarted, and the partition is still showing that it is almost full. Any ideas? |
| 16:54.32 | spacepluk | Eulex: I think that embedian is more ARM and such oriented |
| 16:54.47 | Eulex | ma3x, did you take a look at the first line ls -l outputs? |
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| 16:55.13 | aetheria_ | and probably a really minimalistic kernel and stuff compiled to be extremely small |
| 16:55.22 | ma3x | Eulex: it says total |
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| 16:55.44 | Eulex | spacepluk, emdebian supports arm, armel, i386, amd64, powerpc, mips, mipsel |
| 16:56.07 | Eulex | ma3x, there's your mystery. |
| 16:56.19 | spacepluk | Eulex: I think ubuntu's lpia is aimed mostly to netbooks. Anyway I tried it and didn't notice it was much better than the standard packages. |
| 16:56.25 | ma3x | i have random filenames ending with "%Y-%d-%m__%H-%M-%S". how can i rm the oldest file |
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| 16:57.00 | Eulex | sort by the date, tail -1 or head -1, rm it |
| 16:57.14 | adilalpman | hi all |
| 16:57.22 | adilalpman | i need help about mysql server on debian |
| 16:57.23 | adilalpman | 5.0 |
| 16:57.32 | ma3x | Eulex: so when i do ls -ltr | tail -1 i get the file, but how do i remove it |
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| 16:58.04 | ma3x | Eulex: i mean the script will do ls -ltr | tail -1 and it will get the filename, but how does it remove it? something like rm $filename or .... ? |
| 16:58.24 | Eulex | ma3x, -r sorts by modification time, NOT the time you have encoded into the file name. |
| 16:58.34 | Eulex | ma3x, assign the result to a variable and remove it. |
| 16:58.47 | Eulex | or just use backticks or $() |
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| 16:59.56 | ma3x | Eulex: i got ls -l directory | tail -1 | how do you assign the result to a variable? |
| 17:00.27 | Eulex | ma3x, foo=bar |
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| 17:00.52 | unop | ma3x, with bash. last=$(for i in usr-2009-05-04__02-56-26 backup-2009-05-04__02-56-30 home-2009-05-04__02-56-36 data-2009-05-04__02-56-42 www-2009-05-04__02-56-43; do echo ${i#*-}; done | sort | tail -1); echo *"$last" |
| 17:01.21 | ma3x | hey unop let met check it out |
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| 17:04.49 | adilalpman | can anybody help me :S |
| 17:05.28 | aebonyne | nm, slightly corrupt file system (link count was 0 but the files never got deleted), xfs_check/xfs_repair ... put the files in lost+found... then I could actually delete them. |
| 17:05.35 | at0m|c | adilalpman: please just explain the problem |
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| 17:05.52 | adilalpman | ok |
| 17:06.24 | at0m|c | adilalpman: that's how it usually works on irc |
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| 17:06.56 | adilalpman | at0m|c: i have install mysql5 on my debian enny server and i set empty pass for mysql root user and now i can connect my mysql server in debian |
| 17:07.22 | adilalpman | but i cant connect it via windows machine that in the same network with my debian server |
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| 17:07.45 | adilalpman | and i get 10061 error :S |
| 17:08.03 | at0m|c | adilalpman: good start, but dont adress me untill i'm actually helping you with your problem |
| 17:08.19 | at0m|c | leaving work now, the rest can read and try answering |
| 17:08.53 | adilalpman | i think u said u have to go work now am i right? |
| 17:08.54 | adilalpman | :S |
| 17:09.04 | Eulex | 'leaving' |
| 17:09.15 | adilalpman | ok :( |
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| 17:09.40 | adilalpman | may be different person can help me.. |
| 17:09.57 | adilalpman | thnx :S |
| 17:10.03 | spacepluk | adilalpman: can you connect to the server from localhost? |
| 17:10.08 | adilalpman | yes |
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| 17:10.23 | adilalpman | i just installed heidi sql via wine on my debian server |
| 17:10.31 | adilalpman | and i can connect succesfully |
| 17:10.55 | adilalpman | and also i can connect from localhost via console with mysql conmmand |
| 17:11.31 | spacepluk | IIRC you need to edit mysql's configuration to allow external connections. But can't be precise since I worked with this several years ago |
| 17:12.28 | adilalpman | how can i find it :S |
| 17:12.58 | spacepluk | adilalpman: try googling mysql external connections :P |
| 17:13.41 | spacepluk | adilalpman: or look at the mysql.conf (not sure about the name) manpages |
| 17:14.39 | adilalpman | :S |
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| 17:16.01 | spacepluk | adilalpman: maybe you should try in #mysql as well |
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| 17:16.15 | adilalpman | i am also in that channel now :) |
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| 17:19.50 | scum | Help, my mouse stoped moving |
| 17:20.16 | scum | At first it moved like wild and then it stoped at a certain position |
| 17:20.37 | cahoot | got a snake on the premises? |
| 17:20.46 | AcTiVaTe | sounds like rabies tbh |
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| 17:21.39 | scum | It is a mouse as in input device for my computer |
| 17:21.51 | scum | the ones that make your cursor move. |
| 17:22.46 | spacepluk | scum: did you try the old good unplug/plug? |
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| 17:23.50 | scum | That it what I get http://debian.pastebin.com/m5a08b292 |
| 17:24.16 | scum | spacepluk yeah, that usually works but I don't want to get this again. |
| 17:25.55 | spacepluk | scum: is the cable in good shape? It seems to me that psmouse should be pretty bug-free |
| 17:26.46 | scum | The cable appears to be in good shape. But I would not bet on it. |
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| 17:27.25 | spacepluk | scum: I'd just get a new mouse. I don't think it's worth your time. |
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| 17:28.13 | scum | It is hard to say goodbye when you are as cheap as me |
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| 17:28.36 | scum | I do not have a soldering iron though if there is something wrong with the circuit conection |
| 17:28.59 | scum | Maybe I can tape its insides back together. |
| 17:29.11 | scum | To last another 3 years |
| 17:29.14 | spacepluk | lol |
| 17:29.55 | scum | Yeah, even though it is a bit of suffering I find it funny, too how poor I am. |
| 17:30.11 | scum | I mean even the poorest in my country can afford a lot of luxury. |
| 17:30.44 | scum | But I basicaly make what I need to pay for food and clothing. |
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| 17:34.11 | spacepluk | scum: I really thought you were kidding :P. Anyway I'd rely on the unplug/plug trick until you can get a new one rather than wasting time on that. |
| 17:34.48 | JimJones | Hi all, i just installed lenny via network and used my wireless card. And everything works except i cant browse wireless networks with network manager |
| 17:34.58 | JimJones | Anyone know what could be the problem? |
| 17:35.29 | gewt | hm... I wnat to take input from a microphone and send that to my vps, which will take the audio and stream it to listeners over the internet. |
| 17:35.37 | gewt | what applictaion do you recommend? |
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| 17:37.10 | willmore | Hello, all. |
| 17:37.28 | scum | spacepluk: But there should be a way to figure out to do the unplug plug in the software... :-) |
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| 17:37.58 | willmore | I have a system that I just updated from 8.10 to 9.04 and it halts on reboot with a "BUG: Int 14" Is this a known issue? |
| 17:37.59 | scum | spacepluk: But well, that would only be a good bonus if I find such a workarround. |
| 17:38.24 | scum | willmore What are those versions? Sounds like Ubuntu. |
| 17:38.34 | willmore | *facepalm* |
| 17:38.39 | willmore | Joined the wrong group, very sorry. |
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| 17:39.08 | azeem | willmore: was this group automatically joined by your client? |
| 17:39.19 | willmore | azeem, nope. |
| 17:39.21 | scum | willmore: Yeah, ubuntu is basically debian, dumbed down and put in a dress. |
| 17:39.22 | azeem | ok |
| 17:39.31 | willmore | scum, true. |
| 17:39.33 | azeem | scum: please keep that distro-war stuff out of here |
| 17:39.41 | spacepluk | scum: :) you could try this: rmmod psmouse ; modprobe psmouse |
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| 17:40.17 | scum | spacepluk: Thanks, if that works it would be a comfortable bonus. |
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| 17:41.58 | delire | i have an X200 thinkpad running Lenny. it has an ExpressCard slot. inserting or removing a new ExpressCard generates no output in dmesg. what is the best angle of diagnosis here? anything funky about these slots under Debian? |
| 17:42.26 | scum | delire is that pcmcia? |
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| 17:43.21 | delire | the card is labelled a PCMCIA Express Adaptor Card |
| 17:44.21 | delire | the specifications for this machine state it has an ExpressCard slot. inserting the card generates no output. i've checked that it's enabled in the bios however. |
| 17:44.25 | scum | delire: There is a kernel module that needs to be installed for pcmcia check module-assistant |
| 17:44.32 | JimJones | you guys suck |
| 17:44.42 | scum | JimJones :-) |
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| 17:44.49 | JimJones | scum sucker =P |
| 17:45.01 | delire | scum: pcmcia_core is loaded.. |
| 17:45.17 | delire | scum: i'll try m-a |
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| 17:45.48 | scum | JimJones: There is not realy a "the guys from the debian channel" since everybody just joins, goes and idles how he likes to. |
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| 17:47.02 | scum | delire: Never used that myself. But good to give it a shot. |
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| 17:49.00 | spacepluk | JimJones: I know how to fix your problem, but I'm not telling you because I'm a sucker :D |
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| 17:50.42 | subsume | When outputting to an HD plasma TV debian doesn't take up the whole screen (black bars on side). What can I do? |
| 17:51.20 | scum | subsume that might be connected to the resolution you set |
| 17:51.30 | spacepluk | subsume: that maybe tv related, have you tried different zooming options? |
| 17:51.36 | subsume | I don't have any additional resolution options. =( |
| 17:51.41 | scum | subsume are you using gnome? |
| 17:51.44 | subsume | Yes. |
| 17:51.58 | subsume | spacepluk: doubtful. I hook other systems to it all the time |
| 17:52.08 | scum | subsume you can set up your second display in the gnome controllcenter |
| 17:52.33 | scum | subsume nvidia-xconfig if you have geforce or similar |
| 17:52.53 | subsume | awesome. Let me rush and try (i have been asking this for a week without reply =) ) |
| 17:53.03 | spacepluk | subsume: I got mine working with xrandr, it gives more options than most guis |
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| 17:53.25 | subsume | xrandr is an ... alternative to gnome? |
| 17:53.48 | scum | Yes, xrandr seems to work good for everyone did not work for me and people in my office though. |
| 17:54.15 | spacepluk | subsume: it's to control X video modes from command line |
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| 17:54.35 | spacepluk | subsume: without having to restart X |
| 17:54.46 | subsume | what's funny is my shell takes up the whole screen |
| 17:55.08 | subsume | unrelated i guess |
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| 17:55.33 | spacepluk | subsume: do you know the native resolution/refresh-rate of the tv? |
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| 17:56.08 | scum | subsume no luck with the config programms I suggested sofar? |
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| 17:56.33 | subsume | scum: en route |
| 17:56.44 | subsume | config editor? |
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| 17:57.32 | adilalpman | i have find the resolving :) |
| 17:58.12 | scum | subsume gnome-controll-center nvidia-xconfig |
| 17:58.26 | subsume | thanks. |
| 17:58.34 | izua | i have debian 5. i want to install ardour, ideally using synaptic, but that package isn't there |
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| 17:58.52 | ktebit | Anyone here ever tried to install Debian over the internet by downloading packages instead of a CD rom image? |
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| 17:59.13 | izua | however.. it appears on the debian site as a package: http://packages.debian.org/etch/ardour-gtk |
| 17:59.17 | izua | what do I do? |
| 17:59.27 | ktebit | No CD burner |
| 17:59.28 | ktebit | Anyone here ever tried to install Debian over the internet by downloading packages instead of a CD rom image? |
| 17:59.45 | ga_bash | ktebit, thats non-productive |
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| 17:59.59 | ga_bash | it is always safe to download the iso |
| 18:00.04 | ktebit | I booted with a rescue disk and I have an ethernet connection and a shell. I was hoping to just download the base system, install it, and reboot. |
| 18:00.08 | ktebit | is that naive? |
| 18:00.12 | JimJones | spacepluk, i dont get my linux support from freenode cause all the geeks here are anti social degenerates who dont like to help |
| 18:00.21 | subsume | hmm i think it can be done if you chroot to your HD |
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| 18:00.32 | JimJones | spacepluk, and besides, its fixed. So jokes on you sucker =P |
| 18:00.46 | ga_bash | JimJones, hey whats the matter? |
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| 18:01.01 | JimJones | ga_bash, nothing, just having a conversation |
| 18:01.02 | JimJones | ;o) |
| 18:01.11 | spacepluk | ignores JimJones |
| 18:01.21 | JimJones | 's feeling _dont_ get hurt |
| 18:01.24 | izua | what's etc? |
| 18:01.26 | izua | etch* |
| 18:01.36 | ga_bash | wtf is going on here? |
| 18:01.38 | ga_bash | ja ja ja ja |
| 18:01.41 | subsume | scum: I don't see how to set an 'alternative screen resolution' ? |
| 18:02.12 | subsume | i gnome control center |
| 18:02.25 | nsadmin | JimJones: actually we do like to help, but if helpees are socially inept and/or refuse to read even the simplest things, you have to know the helpers get that all day... the comment you make doesn't help your case much |
| 18:03.09 | JimJones | nsadmin, i didnt come here for assistance. Just to vent, so your comment is futile in this sense |
| 18:03.14 | simonrvn | JimJones: pot, kettle, black. |
| 18:03.21 | nsadmin | perhaps what would help is if you get outside every once in awhile and talk to people, perhaps twice a year whether you need it or not |
| 18:03.24 | Syrogen | help, i enter aptitude install postfix then Yes, then cannot proceed anymore.. |
| 18:03.51 | keith4_ | izua, etch is old stable |
| 18:04.02 | keith4_ | ktebit, you can do what you want with debootstrap |
| 18:04.11 | keith4_ | but you might be better off netbooting |
| 18:04.12 | izua | is it possible to install a package from there? |
| 18:04.16 | JimJones | I was out all day yesterday |
| 18:04.20 | JimJones | In fact all day this week |
| 18:04.20 | delire | izua: do you have updated package information? are you looking in the right category? try 'sudo apt-cache search ardour' |
| 18:04.21 | izua | i think ardour isn't in debian 5 packages |
| 18:04.33 | nsadmin | JimJones: also... there is a school of thought that suggests venting is better done elsewhere |
| 18:04.39 | JimJones | Working, socializing with people and my gf's |
| 18:04.40 | keith4_ | !tell izua about search |
| 18:04.45 | JimJones | So again, you fail nsadmin |
| 18:05.07 | nsadmin | why are you telling me this? |
| 18:05.21 | JimJones | Yeah well, my 100+ dedicates IP's suggests i can do it where ever i damn well please ;o) |
| 18:05.27 | subsume | .... |
| 18:05.28 | simonrvn | you know nsadmin, might as well *plonk* him. ;) |
| 18:05.34 | scum | subsume: You tried the nvidia tool aready? |
| 18:05.41 | simonrvn | now i know i will too ;) |
| 18:05.43 | subsume | scum: network issue. gettin there. =) |
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| 18:05.46 | JimJones | Is |
| 18:05.49 | Syrogen | hello? |
| 18:05.53 | izua | what is the updated package information? |
| 18:05.59 | JimJones | 'plonk' a geek term for banning? |
| 18:05.59 | nsadmin | agreed.. I plonk by going for breakfast where the hotties are! |
| 18:06.02 | scum | subsume: You can also add resolutions to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:06.49 | nsadmin | for becoming disinterested in what you have to say... technically, a user-level quieting |
| 18:06.51 | keith4_ | izua, huh? |
| 18:07.05 | CarstenP2 | Hi! I cant start postgresql on my fresh debian install, i get no error, nothing, what am I doing wrong? |
| 18:07.06 | spacepluk | I had never used /ignore before. It works very well :) |
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| 18:07.32 | delire | izua: i think you're right. i don't see it in my packages list here. |
| 18:07.33 | izua | delire: what do you mean: updated package information? search doesn't return anything useful (only 2 ardour plugins) |
| 18:07.39 | subsume | Anyone who comes to IRC to do arm-stretching about their social life can't really have a very intact ego. |
| 18:07.48 | delire | izua perhaps it's in the debian-multimedia repository |
| 18:07.52 | nsadmin | CarstenP2: perhaps it's already started? or, you have a db from before that couldn't be autoconverted |
| 18:07.52 | izua | i think it's not in the debian 5 anymore |
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| 18:07.59 | izua | there isn't. i've searched for it on the site |
| 18:07.59 | nsadmin | well that's a maybe |
| 18:08.00 | keith4_ | izua, http://packages.debian.org/ardour |
| 18:08.22 | keith4_ | CarstenP2, how, exactly, are you starting it? |
| 18:08.25 | sadleder | hi all, what happened to http://alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 18:08.45 | nsadmin | ardour requires that you get very up close and personal with jack audio connection kit |
| 18:09.02 | izua | keith4_: can i install from that link? |
| 18:09.15 | CarstenP2 | nsadmin: No, i looked with ps. postgres is not started, additionally the status parameter says nothing |
| 18:09.24 | delire | izua: you'll need to edit your sources to include the testing repository |
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| 18:09.35 | izua | isn't etch the old repository? |
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| 18:09.36 | CarstenP2 | keith4_: I try /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start |
| 18:09.50 | delire | wonders why it was removed from Lenny |
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| 18:10.01 | izua | also, is adding an old repo bad? |
| 18:10.12 | the_plumber | anyone know what the default ftp server for woody was? was it wu-ftp? |
| 18:10.33 | izua | as a side note, what is the repository url/address? |
| 18:10.57 | delire | izua: you can use Etch in your sources list just fine on Lenny |
| 18:11.06 | keith4_ | izua, you need to do some reading |
| 18:11.15 | izua | i know to add packages |
| 18:11.28 | izua | and repositories.. i just can't find what's the repository name |
| 18:11.38 | keith4_ | !tell izua about etch |
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| 18:11.43 | keith4_ | !tell izue about grounding |
| 18:11.48 | delire | izua: the version in Etch is very old however, compared to the package in Testing branch. |
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| 18:12.06 | martianlobster | can someone explain to me what the "system timer interupt" is? I am reading about a "jiffy" here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiffy_(time)#Use_in_computing, but it doesn't exactly make sense, because most systems have clocks that run in megahertz, don't they? is the "system timer interupt" many many many clock cycles? Or am I incorrect to think that a system clock runs in megahertz? |
| 18:12.12 | keith4_ | CarstenP2, and what does it output when you run that? |
| 18:12.20 | izua | !tell me about grounding |
| 18:12.24 | subsume | scum: bah. HD failure. need to switch it.' |
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| 18:12.44 | subsume | JimJones: why do your arm-stretching about being social here? |
| 18:12.56 | izua | ok. |
| 18:13.02 | izua | i want ardour, prefferably a new one. what do I do? |
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| 18:13.22 | keith4_ | !tell izua about ssb |
| 18:13.24 | delire | izua: either compile it or take the risk with the Testing package. |
| 18:13.32 | keith4_ | backport it |
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| 18:13.37 | delire | yes, or backport it |
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| 18:14.05 | izua | is there something that will automatically satisfy all deps? |
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| 18:14.19 | JimJones | subsume, im sorry i dont speak lameness. Can you translate that to english |
| 18:14.23 | keith4_ | izua, read what dpkg told you |
| 18:14.24 | izua | i don't want to start installing deps manually.. |
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| 18:14.32 | keith4_ | subsume, just leave him alone, and he'll get bored eventually |
| 18:14.42 | CarstenP2 | keith4_: nothing. it says nothing. :( I guess i have to make a visit to RTFM land, is there no simple solution? I just need a quick database for storing some stuff, and I am not going back to mysql, not after the accident. |
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| 18:14.51 | izua | i can't, i killed that windows accidentally. |
| 18:14.57 | subsume | keith4_: he already seemed bored, I reawoke. =) |
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| 18:15.08 | keith4_ | izua, then ask dpkg about ssb |
| 18:15.08 | izua | along with my overall desktop :/ |
| 18:15.09 | subsume | JimJones: you seem to speak lameless perfectly fluently. |
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| 18:15.25 | ilies | Hi all:) |
| 18:15.56 | JimJones | subsume, i beg your pardon fag but i believe you could write a book on the subject |
| 18:16.00 | izua | out of curiosity, not that i've done it :) is there any way to show up the lower bar, if i accidentally xkilled it? |
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| 18:16.23 | izua | (for example if i was clicking on a taskbar item representing a window to kill.. ) |
| 18:16.32 | subsume | JimJones: I don't know what effect you were hoping to have today, but I can't imagine you've had it. |
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| 18:17.04 | extreme | hello guys apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` wont work in my box |
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| 18:17.26 | Eulex | extreme, so, what's the error? |
| 18:17.33 | JimJones | extreme, do tell |
| 18:17.41 | extreme | E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.28.4-xxxx-vmware-ipv4-32 |
| 18:17.41 | delire | extreme: are you running 2.6.28? |
| 18:17.46 | delire | thought so.. |
| 18:17.55 | extreme | :( |
| 18:17.58 | azeem | extreme: where do you have that kernel from? |
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| 18:18.09 | extreme | OVH |
| 18:18.17 | azeem | OVH? |
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| 18:18.21 | delire | extreme: get your kernel from a kernel buildserver? |
| 18:18.32 | Eulex | that kernel is not in debian, thus there's no kernel header package for it |
| 18:18.38 | azeem | extreme: whereever you have it from, ask them for the kernel headers |
| 18:18.54 | delire | bbl |
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| 18:19.38 | extreme | hosting provider installed vmware for me from that time my kernel is 2.6.28.4-xxxx-vmware-ipv4-32 |
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| 18:20.25 | azeem | extreme: so ask them |
| 18:20.27 | Eulex | extreme, see what azeem told you. |
| 18:21.06 | extreme | ok azeem |
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| 18:22.21 | extreme | i ve restarted my debian and now fuest OS cant browse internet or connect through remote desktop . Any idea to fix it? |
| 18:22.30 | extreme | *guest |
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| 18:22.37 | m0usep0t4t0 | a porn bot, how wonderful of you ^Jessica`! |
| 18:22.55 | pro-rsoft | m0usep0t4t0, its been bothering me too |
| 18:23.01 | Eulex | extreme, does it get an ip, a dns server etc? |
| 18:23.04 | azeem | m0usep0t4t0: the right action is to notify ops via the "!ops ^Jessica` porn-bot" command |
| 18:23.16 | Knight_Lord | Is there any way to get debian to install PIC static libraries in AMD64? |
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| 18:23.36 | azeem | m0usep0t4t0: but I've removed it now |
| 18:23.52 | tomaw | azeem: when a2 cycles, he's gonna kline them :) |
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| 18:24.30 | azeem | tomaw: didn't saw it fast enough, and already had the auto-bleh fired off - just needed to identify with nickserv first... |
| 18:24.38 | tomaw | ah |
| 18:24.46 | m0usep0t4t0 | azeem: Thanks, I didn't know about the reporting option! |
| 18:24.49 | extreme | Eulex : ip assigned by DHCP |
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| 18:25.02 | Eulex | extreme, and did it get any? |
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| 18:26.21 | subsume | Gnome mouse is suddenly moving very choppily along the screen. Was working fine the other day. What can I check? |
| 18:26.32 | extreme | network connection settings are same like before after restart but no internet |
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| 18:27.10 | Eulex | extreme, 1. can you ping an ip inside the network? 2. can you ping an ip outside the network? 3. can you resolve a host name to an ip? |
| 18:27.36 | subsume | scum: got that package. |
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| 18:28.16 | extreme | cant ping out side getting timed out |
| 18:28.30 | subsume | scum: I see 'Section "Monitior" in my xorg.conf, gives identifier as LG TV (that's mine!) option = "DPMS" ? |
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| 18:29.34 | Eulex | extreme, better ask the host provider then. one thing you could try before is taking down and bringing up the network device. |
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| 18:31.17 | extreme | tried by disconnecting not work i tried re run vmware config then its ask for kernel headers |
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| 18:32.33 | simonrvn | subsume: Option "DPMS" "false" (or "true") |
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| 18:35.36 | izua | ok.. i added the testing repo |
| 18:35.47 | izua | i'm getting the ardour from there |
| 18:35.51 | izua | *crosses fingers* |
| 18:36.18 | keith4_ | make sure you set stable as your preferred source |
| 18:36.27 | subsume | simonrvn: says simply DPMS |
| 18:36.30 | keith4_ | even then... what you are doing is Not A Good Idea |
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| 18:36.36 | izua | uuh.. i'm not sure how to do that |
| 18:36.50 | subsume | simonrvn: doesn't matter now. my whole configuration is screwed and I can't make sense of anything that appears on the screen |
| 18:36.54 | simonrvn | man Xorg.conf |
| 18:37.00 | izua | well, i don't see other way how to get ardour rather than compiling it myself |
| 18:37.01 | simonrvn | aaw |
| 18:37.24 | subsume | can't find the nvidia module, I make that much out. |
| 18:37.57 | simonrvn | probably have to recompile it and install that. |
| 18:38.09 | simonrvn | changed your kernel recently? |
| 18:38.44 | subsume | I think so. I was having some HD trouble and when I rebooted there was another kernel to load |
| 18:38.54 | subsume | i should say 'not intentionally' |
| 18:39.07 | subsume | recompile what, though? |
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| 18:43.14 | varney | how do i purge the suspend cache so i don't get a i/o error on reading swsusp image on every boot (so i don't have to use 'noresume' in the boot commandline)? |
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| 18:44.48 | ktebit | how can one md device suddenly become 2? |
| 18:44.59 | ktebit | I used to have 1 raid5. Now it shows up as md0 and md1, and neither will start |
| 18:45.04 | ktebit | both missing disks |
| 18:45.22 | ktebit | mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active. |
| 18:45.31 | ktebit | i got this when I did `mdadm -D /dev/md0` |
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| 18:46.15 | ktebit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.19 | ktebit | mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 4 drives - not enough to start the array. |
| 18:46.46 | ktebit | why does it think theres 2 md devices? |
| 18:47.38 | ktebit | Anyone? |
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| 18:48.25 | CoolCold | ktebit: sho cat /proc/mdstat |
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| 18:48.36 | ktebit | What? |
| 18:48.48 | CoolCold | show this somewhere on pastebin |
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| 18:51.04 | subsume | My gnome login screen uses the whole width of my plasma TV but on login in switches back to a narrow resolution! Argh. |
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| 18:51.55 | ktebit | http://pastebin.com/m64c429ef |
| 18:51.58 | ktebit | CoolCold: http://pastebin.com/m64c429ef |
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| 18:53.41 | ktebit | any ideas? |
| 18:54.13 | ktebit | Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) <-- this is very bad right? |
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| 18:56.51 | ktebit | So????? |
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| 18:57.01 | ktebit | please someone help me |
| 18:57.09 | batcoder-7 | anyone here ever use skippy before? |
| 18:57.41 | gravity | batcoder-7: That's the expose' like thing, right? Not in a very long time. I thought it was abandoned. |
| 18:57.42 | behanw | ktebit: It was a 5 disk array originally? |
| 18:57.59 | batcoder-7 | gravity, or if yoiu know anything like it? |
| 18:58.17 | gravity | batcoder-7: Basically everyone who really wanted that went to compiz. Although the new kwin might also allow it. |
| 18:58.41 | ktebit | Guys? |
| 18:58.41 | CoolCold | ktebit: hmm |
| 18:58.54 | batcoder-7 | yeathey have something called Kompose gravity |
| 18:59.01 | CoolCold | ktebit: did this become this way 'itself' ? |
| 18:59.03 | batcoder-7 | but u use xfce |
| 18:59.29 | ktebit | behanw: 6 |
| 18:59.34 | behanw | ktebit: what do you get when you do a "mdadm --examine /dev/sdd3" |
| 18:59.40 | ktebit | behanw: 6x500 |
| 18:59.53 | behanw | what were the 6 disks? |
| 18:59.54 | izua | how can I know if an audio input is clipping? |
| 19:00.08 | batcoder-7 | your right gravity 2004 so much for that |
| 19:00.35 | ktebit | behanw: sdb, sdc, sdd, sde,sdf ,sdg |
| 19:00.43 | CoolCold | ktebit: you have five drives in you paste |
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| 19:00.52 | behanw | what's happened to sdb? |
| 19:01.01 | ktebit | http://pastebin.com/m656ad300 |
| 19:01.17 | behanw | have you check smart on sdb and sdd? |
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| 19:01.45 | ktebit | behanw: thats the output of what you asked me http://pastebin.com/m656ad300 |
| 19:02.02 | ktebit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.13 | batcoder-7 | anyone here use compiz fusion? |
| 19:02.26 | behanw | How about "mdadm --detail /dev/md0" and for /dev/md1 |
| 19:02.46 | ktebit | not active |
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| 19:03.00 | anddam | hello |
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| 19:03.35 | batcoder-7 | is it possible to just use one plugin with compiz fusion? |
| 19:03.49 | behanw | can you do a "mdadm --examine /dev/sdb3" as well? Or whatever the partition on sdb was? |
| 19:03.51 | Knight_Lord | Is there any way to get debian to install PIC static libraries in AMD64? |
| 19:04.44 | ktebit | behanw: i have to do sdb |
| 19:04.48 | ktebit | without a partition nymber |
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| 19:05.33 | ktebit | behanw: http://pastebin.com/m66afdd5 |
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| 19:06.57 | ktebit | How can UUID suddenly change?? |
| 19:07.02 | behanw | So, did you have an mdadm event in your logs? |
| 19:07.30 | ktebit | which logs? |
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| 19:08.01 | anddam | oh btw speaking of logs |
| 19:08.08 | ktebit | behanw: syslog.1:Apr 5 00:57:01 workstation mdadm[4199]: RebuildStarted event detected on md device /dev/md0 |
| 19:08.10 | jpinx | can anyone remind me of the command which stores all my commands for a while? |
| 19:08.22 | anddam | I'd like to understand how the log factory works, can someone point me to the doc? |
| 19:08.32 | CoolCold | i dunno how it could change, but mdadm has cron job to be run at first sunday of month at 1.06 AM, mb this is somewhow related |
| 19:08.54 | gravity | "the log factory"? |
| 19:08.58 | peppe | Knight_Lord: wait... what? |
| 19:09.13 | ktebit | behanw: any idea sir? |
| 19:09.21 | behanw | The only thing I can think of is convincing yourself that the drives haven't gone faulty with smartctl (check the error logs) |
| 19:09.43 | behanw | Then assemble the array manually, listing all the partitions that SHOULD be a part of it. |
| 19:09.56 | Knight_Lord | peppe: I wanted the static libraries to be compiled with -fPIC |
| 19:10.15 | behanw | You'll probably have to use --force |
| 19:10.20 | ktebit | behanw: Look this http://pastebin.com/m5809472c |
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| 19:10.39 | ktebit | Do you mean run a test with smartctl? |
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| 19:11.17 | behanw | First use smartcl to check all the error logs of the drives. |
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| 19:11.32 | behanw | Run some tests on them too. make sure you think the drives are good. |
| 19:11.41 | peppe | Knight_Lord: hm, maybe I'm wrong, but what's the point of making them position-independent if you're going to link them statically into your executable? |
| 19:11.43 | behanw | Then force assemble the array. |
| 19:12.03 | Knight_Lord | peppe: i want to link them statically to my shared library |
| 19:12.07 | behanw | Basically, at this point you've lost the array. We're trying to get it back again. But you may have to face having lost it. |
| 19:12.24 | CoolCold | i'd suggest backup disks to somewhere first by dd, and then assemble array |
| 19:12.28 | Knight_Lord | peppe: i want to have one single large shared library instead of many small ones |
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| 19:12.48 | behanw | So the thing to do is make sure that if there is anything wrong, you figure out which of the drives is bad, and NOT include it in the force assemble |
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| 19:13.14 | ktebit | o basicly i should have 1 spare per device.. lol :P |
| 19:13.22 | behanw | CoolCold: if you can, sure. But a 6 disk array of that size often isn't easily copied. |
| 19:13.44 | ktebit | No errors logged on all of them |
| 19:13.50 | behanw | That's good. |
| 19:13.59 | behanw | Do a --test long on each of them. |
| 19:14.12 | behanw | Make sure the self test on each passes. |
| 19:14.44 | behanw | You're going to have to make a leap of faith, so better make sure you've done all your homework first. |
| 19:14.46 | ktebit | but arning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) |
| 19:14.52 | ktebit | im guessing that aint good |
| 19:14.56 | ktebit | sde sdf sdg gives that error |
| 19:14.59 | behanw | On which drive? |
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| 19:15.10 | behanw | Ah |
| 19:15.29 | behanw | What gives you those errors? |
| 19:15.39 | ktebit | ok, test enabled on all disks |
| 19:16.00 | ktebit | fdisk /dev/sde |
| 19:16.04 | ktebit | (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) |
| 19:16.07 | ktebit | Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) |
| 19:16.32 | behanw | use cfdisk instead |
| 19:16.51 | tecneeq | gents, can someone explain this: wget -m -p --timeout=15 --tries=2 http://angbandcvs.homedns.org/sys71heaven/ ; echo $? |
| 19:16.58 | tecneeq | shouldn't it return 1? |
| 19:17.06 | tecneeq | the host is clearly not there |
| 19:17.10 | ktebit | Unknown partition table type |
| 19:17.13 | ktebit | Do you wish to start with a zero table [y/N] ? |
| 19:17.23 | behanw | Ah. |
| 19:17.34 | ktebit | SDG only shows free space |
| 19:17.43 | ktebit | safe to assume that its borked? |
| 19:17.54 | behanw | Are you using partitions in your array? Or the whole block device? |
| 19:18.28 | ktebit | How can i check the status of the test? Or do I just wait 150 mins then try a smarctl |
| 19:18.49 | ktebit | Umm, I dont remember from when i set it up, but i think i made partitions on all of dem |
| 19:18.50 | ktebit | or no |
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| 19:19.22 | ktebit | i probably didnt. because the examine command showed me /dev/sde |
| 19:19.27 | behanw | smartctl -a on the device. The state of the test is in the bit near the top. |
| 19:20.05 | ktebit | Im getting new spare drives this summer... I dont want this to happen again.. new chassis and 2-3 spare devices |
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| 19:20.30 | behanw | If you use the block device (instead of a partition) then the drive won't have a valid parition table and never will. |
| 19:20.41 | behanw | DO NOT WRITE A NEW PARTITION TABLE. That would be bad. |
| 19:20.44 | CoolCold | ktebit: smth wrong happened, i guess spares won't help |
| 19:21.12 | ktebit | but i could have used a mix of them? |
| 19:21.16 | behanw | I'm assuming when you created your array you did a |
| 19:21.42 | behanw | mdadm --assemble dev/md0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde /devsdf |
| 19:21.58 | ktebit | I cant see a test state anywhere |
| 19:22.05 | ktebit | o self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] |
| 19:22.07 | ktebit | only this. |
| 19:22.11 | ktebit | behanw: yea possible I did that |
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| 19:22.29 | Syrogen | hi, i enter " gzip -cd php-5.2.8-fpm-0.5.8.diff.gz | patch -d php-5.2.8 -p1 " but it says gzip: php-5.2.8-fpm-0.5.8.diff.gz: No such file or directory |
| 19:22.58 | behanw | ktebit: near the top it will say "Self-test execution status:" |
| 19:23.03 | behanw | That will list the test status |
| 19:23.37 | behanw | Do a "smartctl -a /dev/sdb | less" and look for that heading |
| 19:24.08 | ktebit | this doesnt make sense :P |
| 19:24.16 | ktebit | 0 0 8 0 0 active sync /dev/sda |
| 19:24.21 | ktebit | sda is my main disk... Not a part of that md0 |
| 19:24.40 | ktebit | ah, found it |
| 19:24.46 | behanw | Well it wasn't at one point. It is listed in the mdadm headers you sent me. |
| 19:25.12 | anddam | dhttpd's doc isn't useful |
| 19:25.19 | ktebit | il take a long shower then.. Thanks for all your help |
| 19:25.22 | behanw | You created the array with sd[a-f] It seems you now use sda[b-g] |
| 19:26.04 | behanw | But when you're done, you're going to have to pray and do the same assemble command as above (with the right drives listed) and append a --force. |
| 19:26.07 | behanw | Hopefully that works. |
| 19:26.09 | behanw | Good luck. |
| 19:26.41 | ktebit | BUT sda is my main disk :P |
| 19:26.47 | ktebit | i cant put that into there? |
| 19:26.49 | behanw | Just don't list your main disk in an assemble if it isn't a part of an array. Using --force is dangerous. |
| 19:27.05 | behanw | so sda is /home, and the other 6 disks are the array? |
| 19:27.12 | ktebit | sda1 Boot Primary Linux ext3 |
| 19:27.23 | ktebit | so sdb-sdg then |
| 19:27.30 | ktebit | no behanw |
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| 19:27.44 | ktebit | sda is everything except /home |
| 19:27.53 | behanw | So you have 7 drives? |
| 19:27.55 | ktebit | But i had an old backup of /home |
| 19:28.03 | ktebit | before i started using the raid |
| 19:28.15 | ktebit | sda-sdg |
| 19:28.16 | ktebit | and hda |
| 19:28.21 | ktebit | but hda isnt in use |
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| 19:29.13 | behanw | So sda isn't used for the array, and sd[b-g] are 500 GB drives. Right? |
| 19:29.31 | BoredK | My datacenter is installing Debian Etch onto my box (they don't have lenny available). Since it's important I get lenny, as soon as I get my box is it suggested that I update everything in etch first or should I change it to lenny and update? |
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| 19:29.52 | ktebit | should be, yeah |
| 19:29.56 | izua | i have azureus minimized to tray, than i accidentally xkilled kicker. i restarted kicker, but azureus isn't in the tray anymore. i know its pid. how can i display it? |
| 19:30.07 | izua | *than->then |
| 19:30.22 | adilalpman | hi |
| 19:30.23 | rgr | Hi, I'm looking for some clear instructions on how to create an XP image from an XP install disk under debian for VMWare. Anyone here done it? Or do I need an running XP install first? There's so much contrasting info out there that any upto date info you might have used recently is appreciated. |
| 19:30.24 | behanw | ktebit: you'd better be sure. :) |
| 19:30.26 | adilalpman | RequireValidShell is commented in my proftpd.conf file and i add user my system with "adduser --shell /bin/false --home /var/www/ --disabled-login webadminadduser --shell /bin/false --home /var/www/ --disabled-login webadmin" command but now when i try to login my fto server with webadmin user i get login failed message... |
| 19:30.48 | ktebit | behanw: It should be |
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| 19:30.52 | riot | izua: kill it, restart it. |
| 19:30.53 | ktebit | all my disks are 500 |
| 19:31.06 | ktebit | except sda and hda |
| 19:31.14 | Gigantic_mini | Hello I need some help here, I am getting some errors setting up pkgs with dpkg, here I pasted the whole output for reference but the last lines are the important part: http://pastebin.be/17656 |
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| 19:32.06 | ktebit | behanw ? |
| 19:32.55 | izua | riot: no better way? |
| 19:33.11 | izua | is there a way to gracefully kill a process? like telling it "hey, i need you to shut down, save your stuff" |
| 19:33.18 | behanw | ktebit: sorry phone. I'm back |
| 19:33.31 | ktebit | wb |
| 19:33.31 | behanw | ktebit: so you understand what to do? |
| 19:33.47 | the_plumber | izua: thats kills default behavior |
| 19:34.06 | Gigantic_mini | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 19:34.28 | izua | ah. i do -9 by default |
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| 19:34.39 | simonrvn | that's not gracefully... |
| 19:34.44 | ktebit | behanw: wait for smart test, check all |
| 19:34.48 | ktebit | if ok, force assembly of sdb to sdg |
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| 19:35.02 | the_plumber | izua: also depends on how the author of the software is trapping |
| 19:35.03 | behanw | THat should be it. Good luck. |
| 19:35.28 | behanw | Just don't include a drive in the --force --assemble if it's bad. |
| 19:35.33 | simonrvn | izua: adding in "-9 " is not default. it's *your default ;). |
| 19:35.39 | simonrvn | *your* |
| 19:35.40 | behanw | You can always build it without a spare. |
| 19:35.53 | the_plumber | izua: theres like 50 diff kill sigs |
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| 19:36.28 | the_plumber | anybody know whawt the default ftp server for woody was? |
| 19:36.43 | stew | the_plumber: there is no default ftp server |
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| 19:36.54 | the_plumber | took a look at the package but it didnt say anying (in.ftpd) |
| 19:36.59 | the_plumber | err, ftpd |
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| 19:37.03 | izua | yeah :) that's what i said |
| 19:37.22 | ktebit | behanw: If sde is bad.. can i force assembly of all without that one, den add a spare? |
| 19:37.30 | izua | it's my default.. it somehow stuck to my head that -9 is a parameter i'd always want |
| 19:37.42 | behanw | ktebit: you should be able to. |
| 19:37.58 | behanw | I can't say it enough though, you are taking a leap here. |
| 19:38.14 | behanw | This will likely work, but may not. |
| 19:39.06 | simonrvn | izua: probably a rather ignorant "howto" page somewhere or something. |
| 19:39.23 | behanw | izua, try not to have default head setting for "kill" "rm" "cfdisk" "dd", etc. |
| 19:39.41 | behanw | Getting any of those wrong can be very bad. |
| 19:39.50 | izua | heh :) |
| 19:39.53 | simonrvn | it can really screw you up. |
| 19:39.54 | izua | i'm new to this linux thing |
| 19:39.55 | Gigantic_mini | tell me about it |
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| 19:40.04 | izua | haven't booted windows for 3 days now :) |
| 19:40.11 | the_plumber | so what I have is "ftpd", the manpage says its from the bsd's system managers manual, safe to assume its a bsd ftp server? |
| 19:40.26 | behanw | You on;y have to lose one partition to a mistype, and you start to stare at commands like that before you finally hit return.... |
| 19:40.33 | simonrvn | there's safe "defaults", and there's very unsafe uses. having your personal defaults be the safe ones is better for your sanity in the long run ;). |
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| 19:40.59 | simonrvn | behanw: heh, yeh. |
| 19:41.07 | behanw | That's weird, it's been years since I booted windows :P |
| 19:41.18 | izua | i can't really move completely |
| 19:41.20 | free_ | hi,i should add at boot a file bin this file is not script i start only with ./file conf,how can add this programm at boot? |
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| 19:41.25 | izua | there's still some software that has no equivalent here |
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| 19:41.35 | izua | but overall i think i can move that to another box.. |
| 19:41.43 | behanw | izua: depends what you want to do. |
| 19:41.59 | behanw | No OS is a complete replacement for another. |
| 19:42.00 | simonrvn | i only use it for 2 things. a game that doesn't run very well in wine, and check for updates for my mp3 player's firmware. |
| 19:42.05 | ktebit | thanks alot behanw |
| 19:42.16 | behanw | I find that the only way to move completely onto another OS is to change the way you do things. |
| 19:42.28 | Gigantic_mini | with the exception of a few games I know of absolutely no other software that doesnt run smoothly under Wine |
| 19:42.28 | izua | not really |
| 19:42.31 | izua | it's not the os i don't like |
| 19:42.33 | behanw | ktebit: I hope it helps. I've been where you are today, and it sucks. |
| 19:42.47 | behanw | The good news is that you can sometimes recover from it. |
| 19:42.51 | streuner | simonrvn: you need firmware in order to play mp3s? |
| 19:42.51 | simonrvn | totally. for me that was true. i jumped right into the deep end with potato, from mac os 9. |
| 19:42.59 | izua | Gigantic_mini: cubase, solidedge/solidworks and isis proteus vsm. |
| 19:43.03 | Gigantic_mini | Lil help in here pls: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) http://pastebin.be/17656 |
| 19:43.06 | behanw | izua: I use "OS" in the most generic "user facing" sense. |
| 19:43.07 | simonrvn | streuner: re-read what i said. |
| 19:43.15 | izua | behanw: ah.. |
| 19:43.32 | behanw | In this case, moving completely over to Linux may require you to change how you use a computer |
| 19:43.33 | Gigantic_mini | izua: solidworks and proteus run under Wine, dunno the other ones |
| 19:44.05 | behanw | The same as moving from Windows to OSX, or visa verse. |
| 19:44.11 | izua | solidworks runs under wine? wow |
| 19:44.14 | simonrvn | Gigantic_mini: it's an older game, from late '90s, early '00. doesn't use sdl or ogl. |
| 19:44.19 | behanw | Nothing is a complete drop in replacement for anything else. |
| 19:44.25 | izua | i know a guy who tried a whole lot to get that running, and he failed |
| 19:44.27 | streuner | Gigantic_mini: well, that look really nasty |
| 19:44.32 | xororand | as soon as desktop 3d hardware can be virtualized, the barrier to gradually switch to another OS will be far lower |
| 19:44.37 | izua | about proteus.. |
| 19:44.49 | Gigantic_mini | you don't mean the cad app? |
| 19:44.55 | izua | i'm not sure how it could run. it's got usb drivers, serial port drivers, ethernet drivers |
| 19:45.00 | izua | all which require windows drivers to work |
| 19:45.15 | simonrvn | there's even cad apps for linux-based oses now... |
| 19:45.28 | Gigantic_mini | even autocad run smoothly |
| 19:45.28 | streuner | simonrvn: oh, thats nasty too :-P |
| 19:45.32 | izua | but i'll have to test that, if it ran. proteus is the app that's holding me back for now :P |
| 19:45.43 | Gigantic_mini | and there is ways to use the windows libraries... non free tho |
| 19:45.50 | behanw | You can always run Windows in VirtualBox or VMWare on linux. |
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| 19:46.04 | izua | isn't running stuff with wine faster? |
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| 19:46.09 | behanw | IT will be slow for 3D however. :) |
| 19:46.22 | izua | exactly |
| 19:46.24 | Gigantic_mini | yeah, but just because of DirectX |
| 19:46.41 | behanw | true |
| 19:46.54 | Gigantic_mini | But Wine is starting to formally support DirectX now, maybe in a few years it won't matter |
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| 19:47.08 | behanw | That would be both good and bad. |
| 19:47.21 | Gigantic_mini | everything in the World is |
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| 19:47.41 | behanw | wine is good for the exceptions, but I don't want companies to think that because wine exists they don't have to develop for Linux anymore. :( |
| 19:47.46 | xororand | VirtualBox is already able to pass OpenGL calls through to the host. OpenGL windows apps (not unlikely for CAD) should run reasonably fast soon. |
| 19:47.58 | behanw | VirtualBox rocks. I use it all the time. |
| 19:48.09 | izua | hmm |
| 19:48.10 | izua | What does not |
| 19:48.11 | izua | Displaying is very very slow : from half to two minutes by refreshment. |
| 19:48.36 | subsume | behanw: seems unlikely. =) |
| 19:48.39 | behanw | It's good even for just checking out other distros to see what they do differently from Debian. |
| 19:48.45 | Gigantic_mini | I still use Vmware but VBox not bad :P |
| 19:49.14 | behanw | I still try my best to use OSS where the option exists. |
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| 19:49.45 | behanw | VMware is nice, but very proprietary. I found it fragile as well when I used it. Not so much with VBox. Byt YMMV |
| 19:50.01 | worr | I use VBox. |
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| 19:50.16 | simonrvn | doesn't bother with vmware, vbox is cool for me |
| 19:50.19 | behanw | My laptop changes so much though, so it's no wonder things like vmware break. :) |
| 19:50.26 | behanw | simonrvn: I agree. |
| 19:50.33 | worr | I think it's pretty awesome. |
| 19:50.41 | worr | And yeah, GNU/Hurd works in it. |
| 19:50.46 | worr | that's all I need |
| 19:50.46 | behanw | cool |
| 19:50.51 | Gigantic_mini | you just reconfigure the server, no biggie |
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| 19:51.08 | worr | also, I've had issues getting VMware server installed |
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| 19:51.29 | behanw | Gigantic_mini: When I was using it, I found that a reconfigure didn't always work when you're living on the bleeding edge. |
| 19:51.35 | Gigantic_mini | previous versions were nasty ye |
| 19:51.43 | behanw | Perhaps it's got better. |
| 19:52.18 | Gigantic_mini | I'm not against all software just for being propietary, there is a few stuffI like |
| 19:52.25 | behanw | THough I have to admit, I do use nvidia drivers. I wish they weren't proprietary, but they almost always just work so it's hard to complain. |
| 19:52.33 | Gigantic_mini | of course, I give precedence to oss |
| 19:52.52 | behanw | At the VERY least nvidia treats Linux as a OS worth supporting... |
| 19:53.11 | Gigantic_mini | they need it lol |
| 19:53.44 | simonrvn | if they really supported it, they'd open up their driver and contribute to nv or nouveau.... |
| 19:53.50 | Gigantic_mini | many science and research comps need 3D and they run *nix |
| 19:53.57 | behanw | I'm not against proprietary SW. I just find that proprietary SW tends to annoy me faster, so I naturally tend to OSS alternatives which don't |
| 19:54.30 | Gigantic_mini | simonrvn: sometimes it is not that simple... money speaks |
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| 19:54.41 | extreme | hi how can i install desktop for debian server? |
| 19:54.46 | simonrvn | it is that simple. |
| 19:54.52 | behanw | nvidia supports linux the way it supports Windows. They pay engineers to make sure it works on the OS. |
| 19:54.55 | Gigantic_mini | simonrvn: and old age company owners can't get the clue too easily either :P |
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| 19:55.01 | behanw | Not the best, but way better than many. |
| 19:55.06 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 19:55.43 | behanw | I too wish they would open it up. |
| 19:55.46 | Gigantic_mini | extreme: desktop? you mean a graphical frontend? |
| 19:56.08 | behanw | But it's hard to complain when I can move a window around my desktop all wobbly. ;) |
| 19:56.08 | extreme | ya |
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| 19:56.33 | Gigantic_mini | extreme: apt-get install kde # or gnome etc |
| 19:56.38 | izua | holy crap, wine is awesome! |
| 19:56.41 | izua | i never knew such a program existed |
| 19:56.53 | izua | man, writing code for it must be a complete pain.. |
| 19:56.54 | extreme | then vnc? |
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| 19:57.19 | Gigantic_mini | extreme: vnc?! that has nothing to do with the gui |
| 19:57.34 | xororand | izua: some games actually run partially faster on wine |
| 19:57.45 | behanw | izua: don't get too excited. It doesn't always work... Lots of unimplemented Win32/whatever stuff. |
| 19:57.49 | Gigantic_mini | extreme: that would be anough, you cna nstall other stuff if you need it later on |
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| 19:57.58 | xororand | izua: friends have told me that the loading times of WoW are usually faster on wine/ext3/reiserfs than on windows/ntfs |
| 19:58.04 | Gigantic_mini | and... I could learn some spelling |
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| 19:58.45 | extreme | Gigantic_mini: its not my PC its a server from OVH.CO.UK so i need to connect to it so |
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| 19:58.59 | Gigantic_mini | izua: when there is non implemented libraries in Wine... use the nonfree ones as substitute and voila :) |
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| 19:59.37 | behanw | Gigantic_mini: I never thought of that. I guess if you have copies of them already... |
| 20:00.29 | behanw | extreme: uh. So you want to install a GUI and VNC on the server to be able to configure it? |
| 20:00.39 | behanw | That's not really the best way of doing it. |
| 20:00.42 | extreme | yeah |
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| 20:00.53 | behanw | Better to learn the command line way. |
| 20:01.06 | Gigantic_mini | extreme: if you only need X to access that machine install windowmaker isntead to use vnc or freenex or w/e the server supports |
| 20:01.24 | Gigantic_mini | extreme: but ssh would be the bast option if available |
| 20:01.37 | behanw | In all seriousness, you will thank yourself for being able to diagnose and fix issues over an ssh connection. |
| 20:01.46 | Nasra | !guide |
| 20:01.47 | dpkg | from memory, guide is at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot_guide.html |
| 20:01.54 | extreme | ya have ssh need to install virtual box in it |
| 20:03.00 | Gigantic_mini | I have all restricted in my work computer but ssh works :D one day I will forward some X apps over the line too :P |
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| 20:03.47 | Gigantic_mini | ok so... no idea here? http://pastebin.be/17656 |
| 20:03.50 | Gigantic_mini | begs |
| 20:03.50 | Nasra | any1 has a guide for the Ctrl +Shift +Alt keys to use desktop effects with compizfusion? |
| 20:03.53 | Nasra | thanks |
| 20:04.47 | Maior | hmm, are there any virtualisation solutions that don't require a gui at all? |
| 20:05.12 | Gigantic_mini | Xen |
| 20:05.25 | xororand | KVM |
| 20:05.33 | behanw | VBox doesn't either. |
| 20:05.43 | Gigantic_mini | depends |
| 20:05.45 | behanw | Basically all of them don't need a gui |
| 20:05.53 | Gigantic_mini | vmware server either :p |
| 20:05.58 | Maior | they don't? ah right, how do they handle switching between vms then? |
| 20:06.01 | Gigantic_mini | but the guest migth |
| 20:06.04 | Maior | (I've only ever used virtualbox) |
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| 20:06.07 | behanw | Yep |
| 20:06.29 | behanw | Gigantic_mini: so what's the issue? |
| 20:06.51 | Maior | how does one bounce between host and guest then? magic key combinations? |
| 20:07.10 | behanw | Maior: ssh |
| 20:07.13 | delire | hmm, this ExpressCard firewire adaptor works /too/ well.. plug it in and see no dmesg output. plug in a device and it transparently bridges to it. |
| 20:07.19 | Gigantic_mini | behanw: DPK craches E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 20:07.30 | Maior | behanw: right, but before I've even installed sshd on the guests? |
| 20:07.42 | behanw | Gigantic_mini: That's pretty broad |
| 20:08.07 | Gigantic_mini | behanw: that's why.... I made a 500 lines pastebin about it :) |
| 20:08.25 | behanw | Save me from reading the whole thing :P |
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| 20:08.37 | Gigantic_mini | the last lines give enough info |
| 20:08.46 | Maior | Gigantic_mini: right, I think the client requiring a gui is my issue |
| 20:08.49 | Gigantic_mini | rest is reference |
| 20:08.49 | behanw | What were you trying to do? |
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| 20:10.01 | behanw | Gigantic_mini: What's the deal with all your /etc/init.d files? They all seem to be missing... |
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| 20:10.30 | Gigantic_mini | that is what I fixed... |
| 20:10.40 | behanw | ? |
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| 20:11.14 | generalPatton | f |
| 20:11.31 | Gigantic_mini | I am reinstalling all the init files |
| 20:11.39 | behanw | Ok. why? |
| 20:11.54 | tonberry_ | I was moving house and now my raid fails. I could really use some help to pin point the problem :\ http://pastebin.com/m5d588667 |
| 20:11.59 | Gigantic_mini | long story, and pointless |
| 20:12.33 | behanw | I see (an embarrassing story then ;) ). I find that conffiles aren't always recovered when reinstalling. |
| 20:12.53 | behanw | Better to extract them from the deb manually. Or copy them from another machine. |
| 20:12.55 | Gigantic_mini | that's why I am forcing theur reinstall >.> |
| 20:12.58 | mhi | Hi. After upgrade to Lenny CUPS "mangles" PDF files on printing somehow so that the printout is worse unless I add "-o raw" to the lpr command. What has changed since Etch? |
| 20:13.06 | Gigantic_mini | nyways I'l go for lunch |
| 20:13.36 | behanw | Well, it doesn't seem to be working, because during setup, they still aren't there. :P |
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| 20:15.02 | extreme | vnc connection refused - but vnc started correctly in server |
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| 20:17.09 | izua | i have installed and ran lineak. it generated a file that correctly identified all my multimedia keys. |
| 20:17.23 | izua | do i add bash commands after their name? |
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| 20:18.34 | diavol0 | Hello |
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| 20:22.41 | extreme | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.26 | petemc | did you verify its listening on all interfaces, are there are firewalls between you and it? |
| 20:23.44 | extreme | no firewall |
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| 20:28.31 | extreme | fixed |
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| 20:29.26 | diavol0 | How i get free shell ? |
| 20:29.54 | simonrvn | diavol0: log in |
| 20:30.02 | diavol0 | where? |
| 20:30.09 | simonrvn | your machine |
| 20:30.16 | diavol0 | how? |
| 20:30.34 | simonrvn | ctrl-alt-f1, type in your username and password ;). |
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| 20:37.04 | jpinx | I've just added an AllowUsers entry to /etc/ssh/sshd_config to restrict access and I presume I need to restart ssh, but there's no entry in /etc/init.d How do I restart ssh please? |
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| 20:38.27 | demontager | how to switch off internal speakers on laptop while headphones connected? |
| 20:38.50 | Noble | So I've been slamming my head against a wall for a couple of days now. This is what I want to do. I have one server at home running linux. I want to be able to log in from other linux machnes into this server in some kind of windows AD way, that is: I want one username and password for each user, no matter what computer they use. I have tried OpenLDAP, but thats a major pain in the ass to set up. Suggestions, _please_ |
| 20:39.12 | demontager | how to switch off internal speakers on laptop while headphones connected? |
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| 20:39.48 | khaije|h | looks like xfce4.6 is making it's way into sid |
| 20:39.51 | khaije|h | claps |
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| 20:40.56 | twobitsprite | Noble: look into kerberos |
| 20:41.09 | twobitsprite | Noble: windows AD is pretty much kerberos anyways |
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| 20:43.28 | Noble | twobitsprite, I check that one as well, thanks. |
| 20:43.55 | Noble | is it possible to get ubuntu/debian to work up against a samba pdc? |
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| 20:45.04 | twobitsprite | Noble: debian does have samba... |
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| 20:45.31 | twobitsprite | I'm not sure I know what a pdc is... |
| 20:45.34 | Eulex | twobitsprite, does twobitsprite imply twopixelsprite? :D |
| 20:46.11 | twobitsprite | Eulex: yeah, it's kind of a play on words... |
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| 20:46.40 | Noble | PDC = primary domain controller |
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| 20:47.55 | twobitsprite | ahh... I'm not sure if samba supports DCs or not... |
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| 20:48.38 | twobitsprite | but if you're just syncing up linux systems, why use samba? just use kerberos |
| 20:48.48 | rgammans | twobitsprite, samba can be a DC but can't join a domain with actuall windows DCs |
| 20:49.01 | twobitsprite | ahh |
| 20:49.29 | rgammans | I believe this is to be 'fixed' in samba 4 |
| 20:49.41 | twobitsprite | cool |
| 20:49.44 | Noble | Let me get this straigth: If I do a fresh reinstall of linux on my workstation, I can still use my old pw/username and get access to my files using kerberos? |
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| 20:50.19 | twobitsprite | umm... a fresh install... you can set it up to have the same username/pw... this has nothing to do with kerberos |
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| 20:50.59 | Noble | Well, problem is that we have about 10 pcs at home, and its kinda anyoing to add the same users on all |
| 20:51.14 | rgammans | Noble, the way I'd current;y try to acheve sso on linux is with ldap . |
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| 20:51.30 | rgammans | and possibly sso & nfs homes |
| 20:51.30 | Maior | we do that via NIS + NFS here |
| 20:51.46 | Maior | NIS kinda works, kinda is on crack |
| 20:51.46 | rgammans | s/sso/ssh/ |
| 20:51.46 | Noble | Basicly a server that authenticates all the users |
| 20:52.02 | Noble | well, without running the programs that is |
| 20:52.07 | Noble | or am i wrong? |
| 20:52.10 | Noble | lol |
| 20:52.13 | rgammans | yeah, ldap,nis can do that if you set pam up |
| 20:52.19 | twobitsprite | what do you mean "without running the programs"? |
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| 20:52.56 | Noble | well, I like to use beryl/compiz. But if 10 computers uses that at the same time, and its run off of the server wont it be slow? |
| 20:53.12 | Noble | just an example |
| 20:53.25 | twobitsprite | why would it be run off of another system? we're just talking about authentication here... |
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| 20:53.39 | Gentoon | I cannot get my x configured I am setting everything correctly but it keeps saying it cant load the module for whatever video card I try even vga? |
| 20:53.52 | twobitsprite | this isn't like VNC of remote desktop... this is just one system asking another system is the username/password is correct |
| 20:53.59 | twobitsprite | s/of/or |
| 20:54.05 | Noble | excatly what im looking for |
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| 20:54.17 | Noble | so, the suggestions are: ldap and? |
| 20:54.25 | twobitsprite | in that case... kerberos, nis, ldap |
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| 20:55.18 | twobitsprite | Gentoon: what card? |
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| 20:55.39 | Noble | Well, thanks guys. Got some new info to read up on now. |
| 20:55.45 | twobitsprite | Noble: np |
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| 20:57.21 | Ivis | Hello how can i create bootable usb stick with debian from windows ? |
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| 21:03.02 | kantor | i |
| 21:03.06 | kantor | hi |
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| 21:07.42 | kantor | Are the following functionalities useful for a network traffic generator program ? You can specify a port range like 50-100, or 4567-7899 . . . and the program could send the packets to that ports in three ways: randomly in that range or increasingly (eg. if the range is 5-10 then 5, 6, 7 . . .) or decreasingly. My question is it is useful the increasing and decreasing functionality ? it is not enough the random one ? |
| 21:07.43 | C4colo | Random answer[26]: American Idol (from JGriff) |
| 21:07.52 | blast_hardcheese | this is completely crap, |
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| 21:08.11 | blast_hardcheese | Why is deluge-torrent 1.x.x only in sid? |
| 21:08.16 | blast_hardcheese | it's not even in testing |
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| 21:09.17 | rgammans | kantor, Userspace can only control pkts boundaries for udp surely. |
| 21:09.29 | Gentoon | twobitsprite: I am just trying for the VGA driver right now, but its an integrated intel 810 |
| 21:09.30 | delire | kantor: what's the purpose of generating traffic.. to test network topology? analyse load? prototype DDoS attacks? |
| 21:09.48 | Gentoon | twobitsprite: But no matter what driver I try it says cannot load module |
| 21:10.06 | Gentoon | lol @ ddos |
| 21:10.35 | kantor | yes, load, testing the OS, testing the services running on different ports . . . |
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| 21:11.18 | Agiofws | points out that his xchat client is not crashing anymore annoying everyone! |
| 21:11.22 | kantor | rgammans, so you are telling me the increase and decrease thing is useful ? |
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| 21:12.20 | blast_hardcheese | Screw this, I'm just going to run sid. |
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| 21:12.52 | infomomo | hey guys, is DIA the only replacement for VISIO on linux ??? it is good and everything, but is there another alternative? |
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| 21:13.30 | rgammans | kantor, What I'm saying is that under TCP you cannot control (from userspace) what size the packets, or the timing of the packet that are sent is. TCP has it' own state machine |
| 21:14.00 | CuteAlien | hi! I have powermanagement disabled in bios, in kde (power control) and no screen saver running. Still my monitor switches off ever few minutes on inaction. Do you have an idea where else I can disable this? |
| 21:14.04 | kantor | rgammans, you can |
| 21:14.22 | rgammans | kantor, Obviously you might be able to trick it a bit , but using multiple connections, eg multiple ports |
| 21:14.30 | rgammans | kantor how? |
| 21:14.32 | kantor | that is really easy rgammans |
| 21:14.47 | rgammans | PSH flag doesn't count |
| 21:14.58 | kantor | just take a look: https://sourceforge.net/projects/nok/ |
| 21:15.49 | kantor | you can adjust the packet size and the delay from hours up to microseconds . . . |
| 21:15.58 | kantor | and much more |
| 21:16.25 | rgammans | kantor, twiddling nagle settings doesn't affect retranmissions |
| 21:17.38 | kantor | rgammans, I know that |
| 21:17.49 | simonrvn | CuteAlien: xset dpms off |
| 21:18.00 | rgammans | so how do you control outgoing pkt size in tcp |
| 21:18.55 | delire | rgammans: use a packet shaping library. |
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| 21:21.02 | peppe | if you're talking about raw sockets ok, you can do all you want. otherwise no, you have no control upon tcp (except for some socket options) |
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| 21:21.15 | delire | rgammans: install python-pcap, startup python, import pcap, help(pcap) |
| 21:21.17 | CuteAlien | simonrvn, ok - found out already. Values are reset per session. But thx anyway - I'll find out the rest. |
| 21:21.48 | rgammans | delire, yeah - that let you see whats happened - not control what is going to happen |
| 21:21.52 | delire | rgammans: ugh.. make that scapy. |
| 21:22.26 | rgammans | oh use SOCK_RAW i guess. Doh |
| 21:22.32 | delire | rgammans: scapy is good for your needs i think |
| 21:22.33 | delire | http://www.secdev.org/projects/scapy/ |
| 21:22.36 | delire | true.. |
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| 21:25.06 | Gentoon | Okay I am coming back to debian this arch linux is making me mad |
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| 21:26.15 | simonrvn | CuteAlien: to set it more permanently, stick that in your ~/.xsession or edit your xorg.conf |
| 21:26.26 | simonrvn | . |
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| 21:27.08 | Suzula | Hello, How I can to install the fonts of directory "Fonts" from Windows on Linux? |
| 21:29.37 | simonrvn | Suzula: ~/.fonts - for your user, then run fc-cache -vf. make sure they're ttf or otf |
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| 21:29.53 | Suzula | Thank you |
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| 21:33.12 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i have a quick question regarding partimage and that is: i created an image while the partition was 60gigs and can i load that image on a partition with 30gigs? hardware is the same |
| 21:33.27 | poncha|work | how can i make apt realize there are new files available in /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
| 21:34.03 | blast_hardcheese | you don't need to, just install the packagename. |
| 21:34.13 | blast_hardcheese | It checks to see if it has a matching file in archives first |
| 21:34.16 | poncha|work | blast_hardcheese: apt says that package is not available |
| 21:34.23 | poncha|work | but the deb is there |
| 21:34.29 | blast_hardcheese | It has to be in a valid repo |
| 21:34.37 | blast_hardcheese | and the repo has to be in your sources.list |
| 21:34.43 | extreme | hi Makefile:143: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Stop. |
| 21:34.53 | extreme | i tried install virtualbox |
| 21:35.05 | poncha|work | what do you mean in valid repo ? it is in /var/cache/apt/archives --- where apt caches all its network download |
| 21:35.10 | blast_hardcheese | extreme: install the linux sources and unzip them to a good place |
| 21:35.40 | blast_hardcheese | poncha|work: where did you get that deb? |
| 21:35.41 | poncha|work | blast_hardcheese: i need this for a machine that is going to have no network. so i am packing packages from one machine and going to install them on another - networkless - one |
| 21:35.50 | poncha|work | same distro, just other box |
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| 21:35.55 | blast_hardcheese | huh. |
| 21:35.59 | extreme | blast_hardcheese : im new to linux can you bit explain how to do it? |
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| 21:36.15 | filePeter | extreme: apt-get install ⦠|
| 21:36.28 | filePeter | extreme: You are new to Debian gnu/linux! |
| 21:36.29 | poncha|work | blast_hardcheese: i'd rather use dpkg... but.. dpkg -i *.deb does not install them in correct order :( |
| 21:36.31 | blast_hardcheese | extreme: aptitude search linux-source |
| 21:36.44 | poncha|work | so most of the deps fail to install |
| 21:37.07 | blast_hardcheese | poncha|work: Hmm, build a local repo? ;) |
| 21:37.21 | blast_hardcheese | then point apt at localhost? |
| 21:37.22 | poncha|work | blast_hardcheese: thats an overkill... i think fooling apt will be simplier :) |
| 21:37.28 | extreme | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.28 | extreme | v linux-source - |
| 21:37.28 | extreme | v linux-source-2.6 - |
| 21:37.28 | extreme | pi linux-source-2.6.18 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.18 with D |
| 21:37.28 | extreme | p linux-source-2.6.24 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.24 with D |
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| 21:37.29 | blast_hardcheese | Yeah, you say that |
| 21:37.36 | blast_hardcheese | yay |
| 21:38.22 | mimiloon | i created an image while the partition was 60gigs and can i load that image on a partition with 30gigs? hardware is the same |
| 21:38.25 | simonrvn | !tell extreme -about paste |
| 21:38.31 | filePeter | blast_hardcheese: apt-cacher or something like that is what you might be looking for! |
| 21:38.47 | blast_hardcheese | filePeter: apt-proxy, and I'm not the one looking! |
| 21:38.51 | blast_hardcheese | :) |
| 21:39.17 | simonrvn | ...first time using irc too, apparently. |
| 21:39.36 | blast_hardcheese | I was also talking about just building a repo using buildrepo or whatever command that is |
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| 21:39.51 | blast_hardcheese | since you can point it directly at a directory full of debs and it builds out a full repo. |
| 21:40.06 | filePeter | blast_hardcheese: Oh⦠:-) I read âHowâ instead of âHmmâ. Lol. Sorry. :-) |
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| 21:40.24 | blast_hardcheese | filePeter: No worries |
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| 21:40.28 | Ph33 | hey, anyone free enough to help me troubleshoot a dead laptop? |
| 21:40.46 | filePeter | Don't ask to ask! |
| 21:40.54 | filePeter | :-) |
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| 21:41.08 | Ph33 | the battery charges fine, but the power button does nothing |
| 21:41.22 | ma3x | why do i get this error: @ERROR: Unknown module 'backup' rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1522) [sender=3.0.3] |
| 21:41.27 | blast_hardcheese | Have you tried jiggling it? |
| 21:41.27 | ma3x | i'm trying to rsync |
| 21:41.30 | filePeter | Ph33: Without battery and AC? |
| 21:41.52 | Ph33 | if i plug an ethernet cable in, it lights up as if waiting for a magic packet, but i don't know the MAC address |
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| 21:42.23 | exd | stopping virtualBox kernel module:Openning /proc/modules: no such file or directory |
| 21:42.29 | bpun | Ph33, mii-tool |
| 21:42.32 | filePeter | Ph33: It worked for me to remove that batery and wait... |
| 21:42.36 | poncha|work | filePeter: i'm the one looking ;) actually, the original goal is like this... i have a list of packages i need, they resolve to all kinds of dependencies, i need to download all packages on a machine that does have internet connection and prepare them for installation for a machine on a non-network site, assuming that the latter was installed with no packages at all (i.e. completely clean) |
| 21:43.05 | blast_hardcheese | Ph33: What kind of laptop? |
| 21:43.07 | Ph33 | umm |
| 21:43.11 | efaistos_ | does anyone use pommed ? |
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| 21:43.21 | Ph33 | it's an acer aspire 5315 |
| 21:43.24 | blast_hardcheese | bah |
| 21:43.39 | mimiloon | i created an image while the partition was 60gigs and can i load that image on a partition with 30gigs? hardware is the same |
| 21:43.51 | efaistos_ | i dont have any osd notifications when i'm using pommed ... Im using it with awesome :) |
| 21:44.00 | blast_hardcheese | mimiloon: Did you dd the disk or tar? |
| 21:44.00 | keith4_ | poncha|work, how about "apt-get --download-only"? |
| 21:44.19 | exd | blast_hardcheese: how can i install kernel module for virtualbox? |
| 21:44.31 | poncha|work | keith4: thats what i do more or less. the problem is installing them afterwards. dpkg doesnt order installation correctly :/ |
| 21:44.32 | blast_hardcheese | exd: It's in the docs for VirtualBox |
| 21:44.33 | filePeter | poncha|work: Maybe then a whole repository would do fineâ½ |
| 21:44.36 | mimiloon | blast_hardcheese: the default settings |
| 21:44.43 | blast_hardcheese | exd: It's also in the error message you're getting. |
| 21:44.52 | blast_hardcheese | vbox-osd-whatever |
| 21:44.54 | mimiloon | blast_hardcheese: of partimage |
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| 21:45.18 | poncha|work | filePeter: right now i'm standing at approximately 180M of packages (with all deps) ... mirroring whole repo would be significantly bigger :) |
| 21:45.23 | blast_hardcheese | mimiloon: oh jeez, dunno. |
| 21:45.29 | blast_hardcheese | poncha|work: make a repo |
| 21:45.30 | blast_hardcheese | from what you have |
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| 21:45.34 | blast_hardcheese | go go go. |
| 21:45.35 | exd | i just compiled kernel now its 2.6.29.1-xxxx-std-ipv4-32 |
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| 21:45.44 | filePeter | poncha|work: Well⦠Yes! :-) |
| 21:45.47 | poncha|work | blackgraz: where can i read how to make a repo ? |
| 21:45.55 | exd | but vbox installing failed |
| 21:46.09 | bpun | poncha|work, anything with dpkg-scanpackages |
| 21:46.14 | blast_hardcheese | exd: Why did you compile your own kernel? |
| 21:46.31 | mimiloon | blast_hardcheese: i don't know what i've done |
| 21:46.44 | blast_hardcheese | clearly |
| 21:46.50 | Ph33 | i think it's the power button that's the issue |
| 21:47.00 | bpun | exd, that's because he has skill.. and ya dont |
| 21:47.03 | exd | blast_hardcheese: my kernel was from OVH that doesnt supprt modular |
| 21:47.11 | filePeter | poncha|work: What about doing the install as wanted. List the packages and have a look at http://mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-create-your-own-debian-or-ubuntu-package-repository/ ??? |
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| 21:47.22 | blast_hardcheese | mimiloon: mount -o loop /path/to/image /path/to/some/mountpoint, then copy everything over to the 30gig |
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| 21:48.12 | hark | poncha|work: /msg dpkg own repo |
| 21:48.26 | hark | poncha|work: also look into apt-zip |
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| 21:48.37 | mimiloon | blast_hardcheese: thanks for your help |
| 21:48.46 | blast_hardcheese | mimiloon: You've got it from here? |
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| 21:49.23 | hark | exd: m-a a-i virtualbox-ose-source. then modprobe vboxdrv |
| 21:49.24 | mimiloon | blast_hardcheese: what do u mean? |
| 21:49.37 | blast_hardcheese | mimiloon: "Do you need any more help" |
| 21:49.58 | blast_hardcheese | exd: So, you needed a new kernel to support all your devices, or what? If you go with the stock kernel for whatever rev of Debian you're running then you can just install the stock vbox drivers and get it over with |
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| 21:50.38 | Lord | hi everyone |
| 21:50.56 | exd | blast_hardcheese: im on debian4 etch i need to run virtualbox |
| 21:51.26 | mimiloon | blast_hardcheese: i don't no right now, i have to give it a shot and if everything goes as planned, then i dont need anymore help; otherwise, i'll ask for more help |
| 21:51.35 | blast_hardcheese | mimiloon: Ok cool. |
| 21:51.43 | blast_hardcheese | exd: Why did you build your own kernel instead of going with the stock debian ones? |
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| 21:52.18 | Lord | I've got a little problem : I've just installed lighttpd with aptitude and then tried to start it with /etc/init.d/lighttpd start. It doesn't tell me anything but it doens't start. Nothing is logged in /var/log/syslog ... what can I do ? |
| 21:52.22 | exd | blast_hardcheese : my kernel is from OVH that it doesnt support modules |
| 21:52.28 | blast_hardcheese | You say that |
| 21:52.46 | blast_hardcheese | but you are still not answering my question |
| 21:53.11 | exd | blast_hardcheese: i just upgraded it to latest stable |
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| 21:54.40 | penrod[1] | greetings, it appears my crontab file has become corrupted, ervy time I edit it or remove and start a new one I get the following error, ""/tmp/crontab.yOowYc/crontab":0: bad hour " any ideas ? |
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| 21:55.35 | exd | blast_hardcheese: can you give me a help to make it work fine? |
| 21:56.10 | blast_hardcheese | exd: Install the latest kernel with Apt, then reboot into that kernel. |
| 21:56.18 | blast_hardcheese | that's all the help I can give you |
| 21:56.25 | blast_hardcheese | Either that or build the module from source |
| 21:56.28 | blast_hardcheese | with your current kernel. |
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| 22:02.15 | Caelum | how do you delete a frozen message in exim? |
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| 22:02.41 | poncha|work | hm. theres apt-zip... Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media |
| 22:02.52 | petemc | Caelum: exim4 -Mrm msgid |
| 22:03.31 | Caelum | petemc: thank you! |
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| 22:07.38 | svk | Hi, apt-get is hanging for me after a recent upgrade, is there a way to correct this? |
| 22:07.46 | svk | Specifically, every time I run something apt-related I get this: |
| 22:07.48 | svk | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 22:08.21 | svk | When I do run that, it prints many package names (possibly all my installed packages) in alphabetical order and hangs after the last ones |
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| 22:09.28 | svk | I know the problem is not related to the last package printed, because I managed to uninstall the package that was last before, and it's now hanging after the one before that |
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| 22:10.28 | exd | virtualbox-2.1: Depends: python2.3 (>= 2.3) but it is not installable |
| 22:10.28 | exd | E: Broken packages |
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| 22:15.36 | xchaos | Hi to all. do anybody have any info how to setup a fax to mail server. just fax to mail thenx |
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| 22:18.27 | petemc | xchaos: you can do that with hylafax |
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| 22:19.15 | exd | how can i install python2.3 or latest? |
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| 22:19.59 | delaman | im googled but i can not resolve my problem,,, i have a server that apache is giving me a "You don't have permission to access / on this server." any ideas? |
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| 22:20.27 | Maior | delaman: you're trying to view /, and it won't let you. more detail needed |
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| 22:20.59 | delaman | Maior: http://213.251.132.194/ |
| 22:21.21 | Maior | delaman: yes. go read {access,error}.log |
| 22:22.37 | foetus | what's with an index.html? |
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| 22:22.59 | delaman | Maior: is it which log is it? |
| 22:23.24 | foetus | access root on apache is normally not allowed. |
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| 22:23.57 | Maior | foetus: yeah, but it seems to be apache's / in this case, not the fs / |
| 22:24.02 | Maior | delaman: both |
| 22:24.51 | foetus | its the same. you must allow access to /, but its not recommended. |
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| 22:26.47 | noppe | can someone explain to me what "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -314705834 ns)" means? |
| 22:27.11 | Maior | foetus: no, I mean "apache's /" as in "DocumentRoot" |
| 22:29.00 | foetus | read some documentation first. nobody allows document root for everyone. |
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| 22:29.20 | rhineheart_m | hello..anybody here uses proxmox? |
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| 22:30.41 | Maior | sigh, kerplunk |
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| 22:32.20 | delaman | Maior: i am no expert but i dont see anything wrong |
| 22:32.33 | Maior | delaman: you're presumably getting something in your error log |
| 22:32.52 | delaman | Maior: may i PM you a link |
| 22:32.59 | delaman | paste2 |
| 22:33.14 | Maior | pastebin or no |
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| 22:33.20 | delaman | ok |
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| 22:38.17 | Skeen | helloo |
| 22:38.28 | Skeen | can any one help me here :) |
| 22:38.31 | Skeen | if possible? |
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| 22:39.59 | delaman | Maior: sent link |
| 22:40.06 | Skeen | ohhk |
| 22:40.37 | Maior | delaman: I drop all pm on freenode |
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| 22:41.23 | delaman | Maior: http://pastebin.com/m70c8ab0e |
| 22:42.07 | rhineheart_m | proxmox is based on debian-64.. if anyone here has an idea.. please share |
| 22:42.27 | Maior | delaman: the warnings are highly relevant, I think you'll find |
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| 22:45.37 | svk | Does anyone have any idea how one is supposed to abort an dpkg installation process gone bad? I am instructed to use "dpkg --configure -a" when I run apt-get, but this hangs. |
| 22:46.20 | blast_hardcheese | it's not supposed to hang :< |
| 22:46.30 | svk | I gathered that, but it does |
| 22:47.00 | TwistOfFate | sounds bad. |
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| 22:56.30 | svk | No one has advice on how to proceed in debugging beyond "it's bad"? I have no idea how to go about pinpointing _where_ this is failing... |
| 22:57.38 | petemc | svk: it doesnt print stuff to the screen? |
| 22:57.38 | svk | I mean, e.g., are there verbosity options or debugging logs I could turn on / read for dpkg? |
| 22:57.52 | petemc | theres a log in /var/log/ |
| 22:58.04 | svk | It prints the names of packages, a long list |
| 22:58.06 | svk | Then it just hangs |
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| 22:59.16 | ZX81 | hi all, we are having a problem with a server process stating that a port is already in use when it's not |
| 22:59.28 | ZX81 | netstat -lnutp|grep 1935 shows nothing |
| 22:59.35 | ZX81 | yet the bind shows EADDRINUSE |
| 22:59.38 | jpinx | svk: I haven't read the scrollback, but there'sa dpkg --debug option |
| 22:59.49 | ZX81 | was working before an upgrade but not now |
| 23:00.01 | svk | Oh, this is in or after the step "Processing triggers for menu", sorry I didn't notice that before |
| 23:00.09 | svk | That's what's printing all the package names apparently |
| 23:00.16 | svk | Will try that, thanks |
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| 23:00.20 | davi | How to suspend to disk in Debian lenny? Is it reliable? |
| 23:00.31 | jpinx | svk: rtfm man dpkg |
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| 23:01.40 | svk | Yeah, running dpkg with --debug 77777 now |
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| 23:04.02 | svk | That was pretty helpful, it turns out that update-menus is the part that's hanging |
| 23:04.35 | Skeen | ok people |
| 23:04.38 | Skeen | can you tell me |
| 23:04.47 | Skeen | how to add a ns and domain to the dedi server on debian |
| 23:04.48 | Skeen | ? |
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| 23:06.22 | jpinx | Skeen: do you have bind9 running? - or similar domain server |
| 23:06.36 | Skeen | ermm i tried it |
| 23:06.36 | jpinx | is your nameserver registered? |
| 23:06.40 | Skeen | it give some silly error |
| 23:06.40 | Skeen | :| |
| 23:08.13 | deonild | Anyone up-to-date on latest hardware? Lookin to upgrade my 3yo system. Going to get mid-priced stuff atm, will be big upgrade for me. Goin AMD and wanna confirm Socket AM3 is the newest, will have best AMD processors in next year or two, instead of AM2+? |
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| 23:08.29 | jpinx | Skeen: keep it here please |
| 23:09.04 | svk | Thanks everyone, it turns out that replacing /usr/bin/update-menus with a script that just runs /bin/true was an acceptable workaround.. I don't think I use whatever menus that updates, anyway |
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| 23:09.12 | jpinx | Skeen: what debian version are you running? |
| 23:09.28 | unpaidbill | wooo fbsd kernel i cant wait to try this out |
| 23:09.39 | jpinx | judd: versions bind |
| 23:09.40 | judd | jpinx: bind -- etch: 1:8.4.7-1 |
| 23:09.52 | jpinx | judd: versions bind9 |
| 23:09.53 | judd | jpinx: bind9 -- etch: 1:9.3.4-2etch3 etch-security: 1:9.3.4-2etch4 lenny: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P1-1 sid: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P2-1 squeeze: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P2-1 experimental: 1:9.6.0.dfsg.P1-1 |
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| 23:11.17 | jpinx | svk: glad you're working again. Don't forget to rtfm before asking here next time;) |
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| 23:13.05 | svk | I did search it for what I considered standard ("verbose"), didn't think to check for "debug" |
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| 23:16.13 | irc | how do i mount an ext4 disk using ext3? |
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| 23:19.54 | delire | blinks at the glaring reality that is Debian GNU/FreeBSD. |
| 23:20.26 | ix | I thought that was Debian GNU/kFreeBSD? |
| 23:20.35 | ix | since you already spelled it out so nicely |
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| 23:21.19 | delire | admittedly my FreeBSD experience was pretty poor. |
| 23:21.48 | delire | .. looking back however, this was largely due to lack of support at the application layer. |
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| 23:25.03 | delire | ix: kFreeBSD was an 'unofficial' port no? |
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| 23:25.16 | dclarke | good day. I am wondering if there is a relatively simple way to change my screen resolution. I seem to be stuck at 800x600 even though my monitor has a native res of 1680x1050 ? |
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| 23:25.35 | khaije1|w | dclarke: what desktop are you using? |
| 23:26.07 | dclarke | in a frightfully noobish way I have to say Debian 5.0 |
| 23:26.13 | dclarke | oh .. you mean GNOME or KDE ? |
| 23:26.16 | blackgraz | hrmm |
| 23:26.21 | khaije1|w | heheh |
| 23:26.22 | delire | dclarke: if you use a desktop environment, like Gnome, you may have a means to change it. all it does however is abstract over a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. you can also just attempt to edit this file directly. |
| 23:26.25 | ix | delire: is there an official one now? |
| 23:26.26 | dclarke | looks like GNOME |
| 23:26.33 | delire | ix: yes |
| 23:26.34 | ix | delire: I haven't had a look at those projects in years. |
| 23:26.36 | Lectus | Talking about FreeBSD... does Debian currently supports other kernel besides Linux? |
| 23:26.43 | ix | delire: neat! |
| 23:26.48 | delire | Lectus: yes, FreeBSD, as of today apparently. |
| 23:26.57 | blast_hardcheese | points at xrandr and runs |
| 23:27.01 | delire | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/04/msg00001.html |
| 23:27.09 | dclarke | okay, the idea of hacking Xorg.conf scares the bejesus out of me however |
| 23:27.23 | khaije1|w | dclarke: what delire said is certainly true, gnome makes it easy... just go to either preferences and display |
| 23:27.23 | delire | ix: this almost makes it 'official' |
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| 23:27.58 | khaije1|w | dclarke: i don't have it in front of me so i can't direct you exactly, but it is available, and it is easy |
| 23:28.02 | blast_hardcheese | dclarke: It's good for you. Make backups early and often, go in, break stuff, learn from your mistakes |
| 23:28.04 | dclarke | the app for Screen Resolution Preferences gives me only 640x480 or 800x600 |
| 23:28.32 | delire | dclarke: if you can't reach higher display resolutions after playing with Gnome display settings, you might want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the point at which it fails. check for 'EE' in the log. |
| 23:28.37 | dclarke | blast_hardcheese: I agree, if I were not actually trying to get other work done. |
| 23:28.45 | blast_hardcheese | Fair enough. |
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| 23:28.56 | dclarke | I'm guessing that my display driver is the issue here |
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| 23:29.25 | khaije1|w | dclarke: prolly, what is yr video card situation? |
| 23:30.20 | dclarke | another tough t oanswer question, this is a very very lightweight motherboard, very low power, it lives on less than 8watts normally and has some VIA Technologies chip for graphics |
| 23:30.32 | dclarke | I'll look in the X11 directory for pciscan |
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| 23:30.41 | delire | dclarke: see the log i refer to above. you can also easily post it to a pastebin for the channel to view by: apt-get install xclip && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | xlcip |
| 23:30.50 | ribasushi | yo |
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| 23:30.52 | delire | oops 'xclip' |
| 23:31.06 | dclarke | is it okay if I run aptitude ? |
| 23:31.10 | ribasushi | why pretty much every network utility has an inetutils-* counterpart ? which one is to be installed on fresh systems? |
| 23:31.12 | delire | yep, of course |
| 23:31.28 | dclarke | what is the update catalog command please ? aptitude update ? |
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| 23:31.45 | delire | dclarke: 'apt-get update' most commonly |
| 23:31.52 | ribasushi | dclarke: yes, or the letter u from within aptitude |
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| 23:32.34 | dclarke | too late , aptitude update is runnings, |
| 23:32.35 | ribasushi | so telnet vs. inetutils-telnet anyone? |
| 23:32.55 | delire | is scared of telnet. |
| 23:33.03 | ix | use netcat. |
| 23:33.09 | ix | it's much cooler. |
| 23:33.14 | ix | like a convertible. |
| 23:33.35 | delire | just phreak it (TM) |
| 23:33.45 | ribasushi | likes gaz-guzzling SUVs |
| 23:33.55 | ribasushi | but anyway - same thing there are 3 netcat packages |
| 23:34.11 | dclarke | I ran "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | xclip" and , nothing happens |
| 23:34.25 | delire | dclarke: now go to rafb.net/paste |
| 23:34.43 | delire | dclarke: use the middle-mouse-button to paste or SHIFT-INSERT |
| 23:34.59 | delire | dclarke: post the resulting URL it creates here for us to browse |
| 23:35.18 | dclarke | one sec |
| 23:35.25 | delire | dclarke: change from 'C++' to 'Plain Text' if you prefer. |
| 23:35.26 | dclarke | I needed to start iceweasel |
| 23:35.31 | dclarke | yes Sir |
| 23:35.52 | dclarke | I am very very familiar with rafb.net which is the really sweet no-nonsense paste service I like |
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| 23:36.14 | delire | dclarke: all X sessions have a 'clipboard'. xclip is a commandline interface allowing session owners to write to this clipboard. |
| 23:36.22 | ProN0ob | zomg u has freebsd nao ?! |
| 23:36.27 | dclarke | http://rafb.net/p/UIowot16.html |
| 23:36.39 | dclarke | delire: yes, I see what xclip does. Very nice. |
| 23:37.01 | ProN0ob | linux clipboard shit is not nice |
| 23:37.16 | ProN0ob | at least it wasn't when i looked at it last time |
| 23:37.29 | dclarke | Linux or UNIX still beat the hell out of Windows any day of the week and twice on Sunday |
| 23:37.38 | dclarke | my opinion |
| 23:37.51 | delire | dclarke: looks ok to me. |
| 23:38.03 | dclarke | damn |
| 23:38.10 | delire | dclarke: now use xclip to show us your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:38.13 | dclarke | during install this machine was giving me nice res |
| 23:38.19 | dclarke | now I get .. crappy res |
| 23:38.26 | dclarke | one sec |
| 23:38.59 | delire | dclarke: you have refresh rate problems.. |
| 23:39.20 | delire | when i see your Xorg.conf i might be able to help. |
| 23:39.28 | dclarke | wow, not much going on here : http://rafb.net/p/0XpT4c40.html |
| 23:40.22 | delire | dclarke: you can always: 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_BUP ; dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to write out a new config to test. |
| 23:40.44 | delire | dclarke: hehe, uber minimal. |
| 23:40.52 | dclarke | as in nearly blank |
| 23:41.14 | dclarke | I'm going to google for people with a Dell monitor and see what turns up for Xorg.conf |
| 23:41.17 | delire | dclarke: try to generate a new config using the command above. choose defaults in the Monitor section when prompted. choose defaults wherever possible. |
| 23:41.23 | dclarke | ok |
| 23:41.27 | dclarke | I'll do that now |
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| 23:41.52 | dclarke | If I become unresponsive then I may have lost visual contact and am scrambling to aatch a DEV VT100 terminla :-) |
| 23:42.11 | delire | dclarke: there is also a program 'read-edid' that will give you the exact specs of your monitor to enter into xorg.conf. i forget how to invoke it however, |
| 23:42.13 | dclarke | attach a DEC VT100 |
| 23:42.17 | delire | hehe |
| 23:42.25 | dclarke | sounds cool |
| 23:42.30 | dclarke | I'll run that first |
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| 23:43.06 | dclarke | crosses a fingle or two and utters 'aptitude search edid |
| 23:43.14 | delire | people have good luck with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg though. it writes out a conf with sane defaults. |
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| 23:44.26 | ProN0ob | delire, if there is such a tool, why doesn't xorg call it when autoconfiguring ? |
| 23:44.35 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
| 23:45.30 | delire | ProN0ob: no idea. in some ways i'm glad it doesn't as i travel 2 weeks a month and depend upon projectors and external monitors. |
| 23:45.31 | Ace2017_- | how can i install the suggested packages of a previously installed package? |
| 23:45.56 | delire | dclarke: get-edid > myMonitorInfo.txt |
| 23:46.08 | ProN0ob | oO |
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| 23:46.24 | khaije1|w | ProN0ob: if there was such a tool it would just be called by dpkg-reconfigure, as it is 'the debian way' which isn't all bad |
| 23:46.28 | delire | dclarke: oops, that'll write out a binary also. nvm. |
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| 23:46.42 | delire | khaije1|w: agreed.. |
| 23:47.03 | dclarke | I'm running the autoconfigure tool and answering questions |
| 23:47.25 | delire | dclarke: cool. |
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| 23:47.50 | dclarke | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- done |
| 23:48.03 | delire | notes 'get-edit > myMon; parse-edid myMon' is useful. |
| 23:48.14 | delire | ugh, *get-edid* |
| 23:48.29 | dclarke | http://rafb.net/p/3GDHca51.html |
| 23:49.00 | delire | dclarke: hehe, really? |
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| 23:50.13 | dclarke | yeah .. really |
| 23:50.13 | delire | dclarke: you can try to use the "Advanced" in dpkg-reconfigure this time, and actually choose monitor characteristics based on output from parse-edid |
| 23:50.19 | dclarke | but guess what .. |
| 23:50.37 | delire | "what" |
| 23:50.39 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.44 | delire | sure |
| 23:51.29 | dclarke | http://rafb.net/p/mhCaYi64.html |
| 23:52.11 | dclarke | pretty weird eh ? |
| 23:52.15 | delire | dclarke: try: get-edid > mon; parse-edid mon |
| 23:52.32 | dclarke | oooh |
| 23:52.35 | dclarke | nice |
| 23:52.38 | dclarke | one sec |
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| 23:53.17 | khaije1|w | anyone heard of the 'hybrid drive' feature that some netbooks are coming out with, is there a way to boost performance by combining flash/ssd and hdd's? |
| 23:53.19 | dclarke | http://rafb.net/p/UYJItE71.html |
| 23:53.20 | delire | theoretically, for troublesome monitors like yours, you can use values from there in your Xorg.conf, passed to dpkg-reconfigure like before. |
| 23:53.31 | delire | dclarke: really though, Gnome should provide a tool for you to edit your screen resolution. i don't use a desktop environment so i can't advise.. but it should be there. |
| 23:53.31 | delire | clicks |
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| 23:54.11 | dclarke | I spend most of my time in front of Sun servers, so, no graphics at all or extremely cool graphics, either extreme and no middle ground |
| 23:54.19 | delire | hehe |
| 23:54.34 | delire | reminds me when i worked on SGI machines, IRIX also. |
| 23:54.46 | dclarke | the purple ones ? |
| 23:54.49 | dclarke | those were cool |
| 23:54.53 | dclarke | iris indigo units |
| 23:54.55 | delire | hehe yep |
| 23:55.06 | delire | in the days of Virtual Reality. that old horse |
| 23:55.07 | dclarke | I go back to the Apollo days |
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| 23:55.20 | dclarke | is an old UNIX/BSD man |
| 23:55.39 | ix | <3's SGI |
| 23:55.49 | delire | has spent a lot of time on graphic workstations. |
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| 23:56.07 | dclarke | so there we go, I see DELL SP2208WFP detected |
| 23:56.11 | dclarke | and that is correct |
| 23:56.22 | dclarke | now I just need to hack about with the Xorg .conf |
| 23:56.39 | delire | dclarke: yes it looks good. if gnome config tools don't work, try dpkg-reconfigure advanced settings again and enter those details when prompted. |
| 23:56.48 | delire | dclarke: time for me to go, late here. good luck |
| 23:57.07 | dclarke | thanks for the tricks |
| 23:57.10 | dclarke | very neat |
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