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| 00:07.07 | blast_hardcheese | Hey, I broke a partition on my LVM; I was trying to resize the LVM and create a separate partition outside of the lvm; unfortunately I did pvresize and didn't resize the vg first, so now the last 30 megs of my /home/ lvm partition has been nuked. |
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| 00:07.24 | blast_hardcheese | I'm trying to restore this, I don't care much about the data on the other partitions, just /home |
| 00:07.58 | blast_hardcheese | Is there a tool that will tell me where a partition starts in a disk dd so I can -o loop,offset= mount it? |
| 00:08.20 | blast_hardcheese | or try and rip it out of the drive image so I can try modifying it by itself? |
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| 00:09.26 | blast_hardcheese | I've started writing a tool that will do that, but I thought I should probably ask before I go too much further |
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| 00:29.35 | TheSarge | wow good job on Leny I love it, I haven't used Debian in a very long time. |
| 00:29.40 | TheSarge | Lenny |
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| 00:36.07 | deonild | Hey all, I'm fairly new to Debian / Linux, recently re-installed Deb after deciding what apps I want. Have 2 small problems. First background info that might help: |
| 00:36.16 | deonild | Debian Squeeze(testing) XFCE DE with Gvim,Mousepad,Nexuiz,GIMP,Scribus,Audacious,Mplayer,Xfburn,Gftp,Icewealel,WCID,Wireshark,Xchat,Epdfviewer,Openoffice installed. Problem is: |
| 00:36.26 | deonild | When I boot, about 10% of the time, maybe less, There is an eternal blank screen, after all regular loading, that it hangs, computing, fan kicks up, before GDM login screen... 1 time it got to login after 2 mins, other times after 5+ minutes I shutdown/reboot... what is it doing, errors? |
| 00:36.35 | deonild | 2nd, when I view some websites with Iceweasel, I think might be ones where it blocks pop-ups, it uses 100% CPU, "firefox-bin 66% and Xorg 33%" according to top. What is it doing/what can I fix? |
| 00:36.45 | deonild | anyone had similar probs? |
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| 00:36.53 | deonild | for prob #2, uses 100% power indefinatly untill I quit Iceweasel |
| 00:36.58 | streuner | !moo |
| 00:36.58 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 00:37.51 | khaije1|w | in my experience it's usually a plugin or a combination of plugins |
| 00:37.52 | TheSarge | Can you run awesome on deb? |
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| 00:38.12 | khaije1|w | anyone know if readahead is baked into the kernel? |
| 00:38.25 | deonild | the newest version is not available via apt-get in stable or testing, but yes |
| 00:38.38 | Ace2017_- | how can reahead be in the kernel? doesn't make sense to me |
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| 00:38.39 | deonild | thesarge ^ |
| 00:38.56 | TheSarge | aw whats an easy way to get it? at sid repos? |
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| 00:39.47 | khaije1|w | Ace2017_-: i mean adaptive readahead |
| 00:39.50 | abrotman | judd: versions awesomewm |
| 00:39.50 | judd | abrotman: awesomewm -- |
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| 00:40.02 | abrotman | judd: versions awesome |
| 00:40.03 | judd | abrotman: awesome -- etch-backports: 2.3.3-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.3.3-1 sid: 3.2-1 squeeze: 3.2-1 |
| 00:41.01 | deonild | Oooo, might be update since I last checked, I belive 3+ was pretty much the bulk of their big changes. |
| 00:41.08 | streuner | !simple sid backport |
| 00:41.08 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 00:41.15 | Ace2017_- | khaije1|w: oh you mean for a single file, then yea but would it be effective? i mean most of the files on my filesystem are small |
| 00:42.36 | deonild | anyone know what my debian is doing (description a page or 2 up) when loggin in? I hate holding power to restart. |
| 00:42.42 | khaije1|w | Ace2017_-: all the articles i've read seem old but here is an example of what i'm talking about (http://www.linuxinsight.com/adaptive_readahead_benchmark.html) |
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| 00:43.32 | TheSarge | wow thats a shitton of work to install one package, maybe there is a binarary some where? |
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| 00:45.48 | deonild | Squeeze, the testing repo, has 3.2, New to deb but isn't there a way to say for 1 package install from testing and it should upgrade all dep's needed? |
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| 00:47.02 | abrotman | TheSarge: there's a package in lenny already |
| 00:47.18 | TheSarge | For the latest version of awesome? |
| 00:47.55 | blast_hardcheese | objects to a wm named "awesome" |
| 00:48.08 | blast_hardcheese | prefers xmonad |
| 00:48.37 | abrotman | TheSarge: no, but what features do you need from the newest version? |
| 00:49.04 | TheSarge | abrotman: I want to try the latest version, thats the point... I have heard it is great. |
| 00:49.24 | abrotman | then /msg dpkg ssb .. have fun |
| 00:49.26 | deonild | newest version uses a whole different programing/config language/features |
| 00:49.42 | deonild | lua |
| 00:49.46 | TheSarge | Ya its a total overhaul |
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| 00:50.05 | TheSarge | I think I want to move to squeeze anyways |
| 00:50.29 | TheSarge | Is it difficult? |
| 00:50.45 | abrotman | depends on your ability with debian |
| 00:51.08 | deonild | I did recently, easy as pie :) no real errors, just 1 I think is due to flash using 100% cpu power like <10% of time on some websites |
| 00:51.08 | TheSarge | Well I am not sure how I would rate that... |
| 00:51.14 | burd | from my experience I would give squeeze a little more time it just landed in testing not too long ago |
| 00:51.19 | blast_hardcheese | I just my whole distro, is this dangerous? |
| 00:51.37 | abrotman | TheSarge: and stability today in testing does not mean it will be stable tomorrow |
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| 00:52.02 | TheSarge | Well i want to try the newest Awesome... So I have to setup the sid backport? |
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| 00:52.19 | khaije1|w | anyone know how sid's xfce 4.6 build is? |
| 00:52.29 | khaije1|w | stable, complete, etc... |
| 00:52.30 | abrotman | how? |
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| 00:52.39 | abrotman | it's in 'unstable' .. use at your own risk ? |
| 00:52.44 | khaije1|w | hahah |
| 00:52.48 | deonild | there should be a way to make a setting so for 1 package(or group) "awesome" could be set to download/upgrade from testing repo.... don't ask me how thoo, I know how gentoo but new to deb |
| 00:53.05 | abrotman | deonild: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 00:53.09 | TheSarge | okay? |
| 00:53.11 | khaije1|w | i just saw it in there the other day but it seemed like there were packages missing, i was just wondering if i missed something |
| 00:53.34 | deonild | mt |
| 00:53.35 | abrotman | khaije1|w: that's possible that some are missing .. but i'm sure they'll show up sooner or later |
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| 01:01.33 | cgibin | hello all, how can i fix mysqld i m having issues starting up.. here what i found hopefuly this can help. http://mysql.pastebin.com/mf92b291 |
| 01:02.17 | abrotman | touch /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.index ? |
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| 01:06.06 | bpun | there a way to install a metapackage for development? |
| 01:06.13 | bpun | or find out which are metapackages? |
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| 01:06.47 | abrotman | bpun: build-essential ? |
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| 01:09.42 | stack` | a good resource on how to make .deb ? I don't find the way to split a program by it's libaryes the doc etc..for making libprogram librprogram-dev program program-doc ,etc. |
| 01:09.56 | cgibin | abrotman no need to touch it its already there |
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| 01:13.17 | abrotman | cgibin: says it's not found |
| 01:14.39 | cgibin | it's stupid , i don't know why it's saying that |
| 01:15.07 | abrotman | possible chroot? |
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| 01:33.15 | TheSarge | Why arent all the installed WM's showing up in the session selecter in gdm? |
| 01:34.25 | jetscreamer | one doesn't know about the other |
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| 01:34.44 | jetscreamer | helpful, eh? |
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| 01:35.24 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: ? |
| 01:35.51 | jetscreamer | ok not helpful then |
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| 01:36.13 | TheSarge | What is the name of that one lighterweight wm that lenny comes with.. xfdm or something like that? |
| 01:36.43 | jetscreamer | xfce-4 iirc, or xfce4 ... icewm is light and windowsy also |
| 01:36.50 | streuner | well, usually windowmaker |
| 01:36.53 | rhineheart_m | how to know that AMD-V support is present in my box? |
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| 01:37.09 | jetscreamer | *box(flux,black, et al) might not show up like you siad... i forget |
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| 01:37.16 | TheSarge | And if they don't show up in the sessions box, how do I use them? |
| 01:37.36 | streuner | xsession |
| 01:37.44 | jetscreamer | you can do it manually, but shouldn't have to |
| 01:37.48 | streuner | or configure your (x)dm |
| 01:37.59 | jetscreamer | he wants to know how to configure gdm i believe |
| 01:38.17 | streuner | *shrug* |
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| 01:38.21 | TheSarge | Yes gdm is what lenny uses by default right? |
| 01:38.30 | streuner | sure |
| 01:38.37 | jetscreamer | i don't know how personally ... .xinitrc |
| 01:38.44 | jetscreamer | w/o gdm |
| 01:38.48 | streuner | !.xsession |
| 01:38.48 | jetscreamer | !xinitrc |
| 01:38.49 | dpkg | it has been said that xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 01:38.49 | dpkg | i guess xinitrc is just use ~/.xsession, or (See entry for ".xinitrc"), or (See entry for "xsession") |
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| 01:38.52 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 01:38.54 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 01:39.18 | TheSarge | But I want to configure gdm? |
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| 01:39.32 | jetscreamer | looks around but promises nothing |
| 01:39.54 | CShadowRun | Hi, i just installed debian lenny with lxde, when i enter Screensaver preferences, it says "Warning: The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.0". Launch it now?", i click on Ok, then it says "Error: The xscreensaver daemon did not start up properly. Please check your $PATH and permissions." This is a default install, how would i fix it? |
| 01:40.03 | jetscreamer | /etc/gdm |
| 01:40.17 | TheSarge | lol thats where I start and stop it... |
| 01:40.26 | FoxM | Hi. What do I need to install so KDE supports non-ascii characters that are encoded in other codes other than UTF8? |
| 01:40.31 | TheSarge | oh wait nm |
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| 01:42.06 | mns | Anyone know how to use m4 ? I've got a simple issue that does not seem to work, using ifdef and -D, but it might be that I'm not understanding things correctly also. Is there a channel for m4 ? I tried the obvious #m4 but that's not it. |
| 01:42.24 | jetscreamer | you might ask in #gnome or something ... |
| 01:42.34 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: there is an Xsession file in there but I can't make heads or tails of it...? |
| 01:42.49 | jetscreamer | yeh me too mostly |
| 01:42.56 | jetscreamer | not sure that's it |
| 01:43.03 | TheSarge | Is it really this difficult to use something besides gnome out of the box in lenny? |
| 01:43.11 | jetscreamer | i 'think' it might be some common ?dm place |
| 01:43.13 | streuner | no |
| 01:43.29 | TheSarge | So what am i doing wrong? |
| 01:43.39 | jetscreamer | kde works fine, icewm, others... what is not showing up? |
| 01:43.40 | streuner | you dont listen what people say |
| 01:43.55 | jetscreamer | or doesn't understand what they say |
| 01:44.00 | jetscreamer | like me |
| 01:44.02 | TheSarge | all I get is gnome and ice |
| 01:44.24 | TheSarge | after a fresh install |
| 01:44.35 | TheSarge | actually not ice something like tvwm? |
| 01:44.45 | jetscreamer | fvwm? |
| 01:45.04 | TheSarge | Is there a way to check w/o leaving and coming back? |
| 01:45.22 | TheSarge | I should be running irssi in a vt |
| 01:45.59 | abrotman | or in screen |
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| 01:48.57 | streuner | TheSarge1: install *any* wm (windowmanager) you want, edit ~/.xsession and just use startx (/msg dpkg nodm) |
| 01:49.54 | jetscreamer | !zenity |
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| 01:50.06 | jpinx | TheSarge1: do a base install and add the desktop of your choice - mine's lxde |
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| 01:50.33 | streuner | TheSarge: install *any* wm (windowmanager) you want, edit ~/.xsession and just use startx (/msg dpkg nodm) |
| 01:50.34 | TheSarge | I don't want to have to use startx everytime I boot |
| 01:50.40 | jetscreamer | he wants to know how to configure gdm to start things that don't show up in the gdm session chooser |
| 01:50.46 | TheSarge | This machine is for my mother mostly |
| 01:50.56 | streuner | well, /msg dpkg gdm |
| 01:50.58 | streuner | then |
| 01:51.00 | jetscreamer | don't give her wierd ones then |
| 01:51.09 | jetscreamer | kde, gnome.. things that work |
| 01:51.09 | TheSarge | Gnome runs to slow |
| 01:51.18 | TheSarge | naw this machine is 2 slow |
| 01:51.18 | jpinx | TheSarge: you won't have to startx, you can install gdm or slim or similar login gui |
| 01:51.34 | TheSarge | Im already using GUI, this is a brand new install? |
| 01:51.38 | TheSarge | I mean GDM |
| 01:51.43 | jpinx | TheSarge: lxde is easy and fast |
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| 01:51.54 | TheSarge | All i want is the other WM's to show up in the sessions box in GDM... |
| 01:52.11 | streuner | TheSarge, there are a number of other dms in debian.. |
| 01:52.16 | TheSarge | I know this |
| 01:52.20 | streuner | ok |
| 01:52.31 | jpinx | take your pick ;) |
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| 01:52.47 | TheSarge | sighs |
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| 01:53.13 | TheSarge | Why can't the ones that are already installed show up in the sessions box... isnt that the point of it? |
| 01:53.32 | TheSarge | So different useres can select whatever wm they want? |
| 01:53.35 | jetscreamer | define which ones are not showing up eh |
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| 01:54.21 | TheSarge | I only get Gnome and TWM, and the default wm, run Xcliet script etc |
| 01:54.32 | streuner | !wm |
| 01:54.32 | dpkg | i heard window manager is a special class of X applications which decorates and manages windows for the X server. To list your available window managers, run "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager". Not to be confused with a desktop environment such as <GNOME> or <KDE>. To set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". |
| 01:54.39 | jpinx | you can choose in the gui login screen |
| 01:54.52 | TheSarge | oh my god, thats what I am talking about, right now |
| 01:54.57 | streuner | sure, if they are installed |
| 01:55.02 | TheSarge | They are not showing up there. |
| 01:55.03 | streuner | :-) |
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| 01:55.24 | TheSarge | Your telling me now (changing your story) that Lenny only installs Gnome and TWM? |
| 01:55.25 | streuner | well, i have no idea about gdm |
| 01:55.48 | TheSarge | not icewm or XFCE4? |
| 01:55.52 | jpinx | lenny installs gdm iirc |
| 01:55.57 | streuner | GNOME is default |
| 01:56.06 | TheSarge | YYes? |
| 01:56.07 | jetscreamer | it's a gdm awareness thing |
| 01:56.09 | TheSarge | I know that |
| 01:56.18 | jpinx | wonders what the release notes have to say on teh topic |
| 01:56.20 | jetscreamer | the dm isn't gdm aware 'i think' |
| 01:56.29 | TheSarge | Is there some confusinion here, maybe a language barrier? |
| 01:56.31 | jetscreamer | more of a problem with the dm you want to run |
| 01:56.32 | streuner | sure, what else |
| 01:57.11 | jetscreamer | ok icewm shows up.. WHICH ONES DO NOT SHOW UP FOR YOU |
| 01:57.16 | TheSarge | The other WM's (XFCE, IceWM, etc..) Are not showing up in the gdm sessions box.... I need them to? |
| 01:57.24 | TheSarge | XFCE4 |
| 01:57.36 | jetscreamer | icewm shows up here |
| 01:57.43 | TheSarge | is TWM ice cause if its not, then no it doesnt show up. |
| 01:57.50 | jpinx | xfce is a desktop environment, not a windowmanager |
| 01:57.55 | jetscreamer | no twm is totally different iirc |
| 01:58.01 | TheSarge | Okay well it doesnt for me, and all I did was standard Lenny install |
| 01:58.18 | jetscreamer | try apt-get install icewm-gnome |
| 01:58.30 | jpinx | standard lenny comes with gdm and Gnome |
| 01:58.33 | TheSarge | jpinx: I know this but it should still show up there, just like kde would |
| 01:58.52 | jpinx | it won't show up if it's not installed |
| 01:58.57 | TheSarge | jpinx: Well i just had 7 people tell me it came with twm, ice, xfce, and gnome? |
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| 01:59.10 | jpinx | read the release notes |
| 01:59.22 | TheSarge | I am just telling you why I said that |
| 01:59.22 | streuner | lol |
| 01:59.31 | jpinx | heh |
| 01:59.35 | TheSarge | Its not my fault people in here misinformed me |
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| 01:59.49 | TheSarge | is frustrated |
| 02:00.10 | streuner | dude, you arent listening to people |
| 02:00.12 | rhineheart_m | how to know that AMD-V support is present in my box? |
| 02:00.19 | jpinx | TheSarge: if you want anything other than what is specified in the release notes you should do aa base install and add what you want |
| 02:00.27 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: look at your cpuflags .. compare to the intarweb ? |
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| 02:00.55 | jpinx | TheSarge: the inference is - read the release notes before you start;) |
| 02:00.57 | jetscreamer | i was wondering.. what is amd-v |
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| 02:01.38 | jetscreamer | icewm should be showing up for you at least |
| 02:01.40 | TheSarge | jpinx: No, its that people spew crap from there mouths/fingers |
| 02:01.44 | jetscreamer | their |
| 02:01.55 | TheSarge | yup |
| 02:01.57 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: the cpu flag is 'vmx' |
| 02:02.00 | streuner | jetscreamer: leave it alone... |
| 02:02.05 | TheSarge | Anyways thanks for the help |
| 02:02.09 | jpinx | wanders off to watch a movie |
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| 02:02.13 | rhineheart_m | abrotman, thanks.. I will try to look for it |
| 02:02.16 | simonrvn | TheSarge: mm. that's really productive attitude. |
| 02:02.25 | TheSarge | What i said thanks? |
| 02:02.25 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:02.34 | TheSarge | I am just frustrated, sorry. |
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| 02:02.53 | simonrvn | it happens, just don't take it out on others :). |
| 02:02.57 | streuner | then read some docs about *any* DM |
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| 02:03.00 | abrotman | imagine being lymeca .. keeps killing the sendq! |
| 02:03.01 | jpinx | TheSarge: come back tomorrow ;) |
| 02:03.11 | jetscreamer | is trying to find the common place between ?dm & ?wm |
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| 02:03.17 | streuner | and HOW to use a WM |
| 02:03.19 | jetscreamer | !blame gravity |
| 02:03.20 | dpkg | blames ix and gravity for all the evil in the world |
| 02:03.25 | simonrvn | just take a ste p back, take a few breaths, and come back to it. |
| 02:03.37 | delaman | hello i having rouble installing bind9, anyone help me? |
| 02:03.44 | abrotman | installing or configuring? |
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| 02:03.52 | delaman | installing ,,,http://pastebin.com/m5b85a526 |
| 02:03.53 | jetscreamer | installing it or configuring it |
| 02:03.57 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 02:04.00 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 02:04.07 | TheSarge | I know how to use a dm and wm, whats with the flamebait? |
| 02:04.18 | jpinx | taking easy ones again abrotman :p |
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| 02:04.46 | abrotman | delaman: which version of debian ? |
| 02:04.57 | abrotman | jpinx: i never saw his question .. baseball is on :) |
| 02:05.17 | jpinx | heh |
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| 02:05.24 | delaman | abrotman: "Debian 4.0 (Etch) based-system" |
| 02:05.43 | jpinx | judd: versions bind9 |
| 02:05.43 | judd | jpinx: bind9 -- etch: 1:9.3.4-2etch3 etch-security: 1:9.3.4-2etch4 lenny: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P1-1 sid: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P2-1 squeeze: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P2-1 experimental: 1:9.6.0.dfsg.P1-1 |
| 02:06.15 | abrotman | delaman: type 'cd' .. then try to install again |
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| 02:06.31 | streuner | TheSarge: besides, a user in Debian should be able to login and just run "startx" on the cli |
| 02:06.39 | abrotman | # |
| 02:06.39 | abrotman | ajax@scenex:/var/run/mysqld$ sudo apt-get install bind9 |
| 02:06.39 | abrotman | # |
| 02:06.39 | abrotman | sudo: cannot get working directory |
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| 02:06.44 | delaman | abrotman: same error |
| 02:06.51 | abrotman | delaman: get out of /var/run/mysqld |
| 02:06.53 | stew | !tell abrotman about flood |
| 02:07.04 | simonrvn | TheSarge: i'm sure people have told you this already (i've been lurking on and off). scroll back and read what you've been told (pgup to scroll up) |
| 02:07.07 | abrotman | it was supposed to be two lines! stupid pastesites! |
| 02:07.13 | streuner | stew: really funny |
| 02:07.15 | delaman | abrotman: i am out, im in a home dir now |
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| 02:07.28 | abrotman | delaman: then try it as root instead of using sudo |
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| 02:07.46 | abrotman | it seems to be sudo having the issue .. not apt-get |
| 02:08.19 | delaman | abrotman: :( fail |
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| 02:08.22 | simonrvn | stew: bah :P |
| 02:08.28 | simonrvn | laughs |
| 02:08.35 | abrotman | delaman: paste the error |
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| 02:09.22 | jpinx | delaman: if you're having trouble installing bind9 it might be because you already have bind |
| 02:09.40 | delaman | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/meee59a0 |
| 02:09.46 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: /usr/share/xsessions |
| 02:09.54 | jetscreamer | looks like this is what you need |
| 02:09.58 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 02:10.04 | abrotman | delaman: reinstall the bind package .. theninstall bind9 |
| 02:10.21 | TheSarge | No I am already done, the wm's wernt installed |
| 02:10.34 | jetscreamer | a file installed into this directory /usr/share/xsessions |
| 02:10.40 | TheSarge | ...? |
| 02:10.40 | jpinx | abrotman: purge bind then install bind9 |
| 02:10.46 | jetscreamer | ls /usr/share/xsessions |
| 02:10.49 | abrotman | jpinx: no .. i said it right |
| 02:10.55 | jpinx | ok |
| 02:10.55 | delaman | fail let me paste it |
| 02:11.02 | jetscreamer | looks like gdm looks in there to find available sessions |
| 02:11.10 | jetscreamer | (not sure but seems to be) |
| 02:11.11 | abrotman | jpinx: his bind package is missing its init script .. so it can't stop it, so it can't remove it, so it can't install bind9 |
| 02:11.16 | TheSarge | And for future reference Lenny only comes with Gnome.. period. |
| 02:11.23 | abrotman | no it doesn't |
| 02:11.26 | jetscreamer | no kde is available |
| 02:11.30 | jetscreamer | no, ... |
| 02:11.32 | stew | TheSarge: that's not true |
| 02:11.33 | streuner | argh |
| 02:11.41 | J-_ | Wow, that's a lot of people, or my tubes are clogged. One of the two. I installed Debian a long time ago, but forget the following question since I know I've asked it before coming from Ubuntu: I don't want to do a netinstall, basically just want to install from one CD. Is there an option to just install from one CD which will leave me with Gnome in the end(like Ubuntu)? |
| 02:11.45 | delaman | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m2abbc268 |
| 02:11.45 | jpinx | abrotman: I get you |
| 02:11.48 | streuner | jetscreamer: he wants something which is lightweighted... |
| 02:11.59 | abrotman | delaman: that's not what i said to do |
| 02:12.01 | streuner | not KDE or GNOME |
| 02:12.13 | amphi | lxde? |
| 02:12.20 | abrotman | spork? |
| 02:12.22 | streuner | flux or something |
| 02:12.26 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: looks like you can copy/edit one of the existing files in /usr/share/xsessions and get it working |
| 02:12.35 | streuner | well, there are 1000 WMs in Debian... |
| 02:12.39 | delaman | abrotman: thought you said to remove then install, let me just reinstall |
| 02:12.47 | abrotman | delaman: no .. someone else said that .. not me |
| 02:13.00 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: what are you talking about? are you even reading what I am saying? |
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| 02:13.09 | jetscreamer | i could be wrong, but that would be my next step if i cared enough to get it to work |
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| 02:13.26 | jetscreamer | you want to see xfce show up in the gdm session chooser, right? and others? |
| 02:13.28 | delaman | abrotman: sorry, well i reinstalled, then tried bind9 , same error |
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| 02:13.49 | abrotman | delaman: oh sorry .. moment |
| 02:13.51 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: Dude its all over now, lol. xfce wasn't installed. Lenny only comes with gnome. |
| 02:14.11 | abrotman | delaman: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install bind |
| 02:14.11 | jetscreamer | BLEGH |
| 02:14.18 | abrotman | TheSarge: that's not true, stop lying |
| 02:14.27 | amphi | heh |
| 02:14.41 | jetscreamer | dpkg (options) /var/cache/apt/archives/bind<TABKEY> |
| 02:14.42 | dpkg | jetscreamer: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 02:14.58 | J-_ | Will the first CD or DVD be good enough out of the 5 to install the distro with GNOME without netinstall? |
| 02:15.02 | TheSarge | abrotman: Please tell me how I am lying? |
| 02:15.05 | abrotman | J-_: most people use the netinst |
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| 02:15.16 | TheSarge | abrotman: I just had to install xfce with apt-get? |
| 02:15.17 | jetscreamer | yes J-_ it will |
| 02:15.27 | abrotman | TheSarge: then you did it wrong .. stop lying to people |
| 02:15.31 | jpinx | TheSarge: why fight it - just install what you actually want |
| 02:15.36 | delaman | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m7ec9229c |
| 02:15.38 | J-_ | jetscreamer, abrotman: cool, thanks. :) |
| 02:15.57 | delaman | abrotman: i continue correct? |
| 02:15.58 | abrotman | delaman: so hit enter |
| 02:16.15 | TheSarge | abrotman: WTF are you talking about? Read the changelog, it only comes with gdm and gnome...? |
| 02:16.22 | delaman | abrotman: "Starting domain name service: named." |
| 02:16.28 | abrotman | TheSarge: you're *wrong* |
| 02:16.38 | TheSarge | jpinx: I already did wtf are you talking abouy? |
| 02:16.49 | abrotman | delaman: now try to install bind9 |
| 02:16.56 | TheSarge | abrotman: OMG whatever your a troll. |
| 02:17.12 | streuner_ | TheSarge: Debian has 15.000 packages, its not only the package on your CD/DVD |
| 02:17.14 | abrotman | no your our! |
| 02:17.37 | streuner_ | calling an OP a troll is like... |
| 02:17.40 | delaman | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m4b315664 |
| 02:17.41 | jetscreamer | however.... tasksel SUCKS |
| 02:17.45 | streuner_ | whatever... |
| 02:17.49 | TheSarge | streuner_: wow I dont care, I did a plain install and thats what it installed.. wtf is your problem? |
| 02:17.53 | jetscreamer | so xfce isn't an option even if it's on the cd |
| 02:17.56 | abrotman | did it wrong |
| 02:18.06 | TheSarge | No I didnt |
| 02:18.12 | stew | TheSarge: please calm down |
| 02:18.14 | TheSarge | i just let everything run as default |
| 02:18.14 | jetscreamer | the installer doesn't give you the option to install xfce afaik |
| 02:18.17 | abrotman | delaman: that's up to you .. i don't know what your named.conf file has .. but if you haven't done any configuration, then you can probably safely say "Y" |
| 02:18.20 | jetscreamer | even though it could be on there |
| 02:18.24 | abrotman | jetscreamer: use the XFCE CD1 |
| 02:18.26 | stew | TheSarge: you are wrong about lenny only coming with gdm or gnome |
| 02:18.33 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 02:18.38 | TheSarge | I am calm, I am just sick of people and there misinformation is all. |
| 02:18.39 | abrotman | jetscreamer: or don't use tasksel |
| 02:18.48 | jetscreamer | i odn't use tasksel |
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| 02:18.57 | jetscreamer | i detest tasksel |
| 02:19.02 | jetscreamer | bloat |
| 02:19.07 | jetscreamer | installs bloat |
| 02:19.42 | delaman | abrotman: success !!! thanks,,,, now can you recommend a good tut on how to config,,, there is a lot of trash out there on google about configureing bind |
| 02:20.15 | abrotman | delaman: install the bind9-doc .. it has the BIND ARM which is a collection of html pages you can read or google for it |
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| 02:20.32 | abrotman | http://ws.edu.isoc.org/workshops/2008/cctld-ams/Documentation/bind-arm/Bv9ARM.html |
| 02:20.36 | abrotman | for example |
| 02:20.47 | TheSarge | stew I am NOT wrong when I said "If you let everything install with just the default options" you will only get gnome and gdm. |
| 02:20.58 | delaman | abrotman: thanks for all the help |
| 02:21.14 | jetscreamer | actually some kde stuff is installed with the desktop tasksel option.. or was |
| 02:21.16 | abrotman | TheSarge: it depends on the CD you use to install |
| 02:21.38 | jetscreamer | however.... |
| 02:21.40 | TheSarge | abrotman: I am talking about the standard i686 full Lenny cd |
| 02:21.59 | Gryfelhase | hiho.... rox-filer doestn't show svg-thumbainls on my lenny-installation, What package is missing ? (it whows svg-thumbnails on my etc-inatsllation) |
| 02:22.01 | jetscreamer | !gdm-session |
| 02:22.03 | abrotman | wonders where this i686 install CD is |
| 02:22.14 | TheSarge | x86 whatever |
| 02:22.28 | abrotman | TheSarge: so choose the installer you want .. or don't use tasksel |
| 02:22.43 | TheSarge | Im just saying i wasn't wrong, you were. |
| 02:22.51 | abrotman | but saying that debian only comes with gnome/gdm is a *flat out lie* |
| 02:22.52 | jetscreamer | !gdm-sessions is /usr/share/xsessions |
| 02:22.53 | dpkg | okay, jetscreamer |
| 02:22.59 | TheSarge | Thats NOT what i said. |
| 02:23.06 | jetscreamer | or should it be ?dm |
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| 02:23.12 | abrotman | actually .. you did |
| 02:23.14 | J-_ | Arrgh, why am I downloading the Lenny DVD? *facepalm* |
| 02:23.22 | jetscreamer | i dunno |
| 02:23.23 | TheSarge | Just quit arguing, put the flamebait away. |
| 02:23.36 | abrotman | pot/kettle |
| 02:23.45 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: you're are talking to at least one op, and a channel guru... fyi |
| 02:23.52 | jetscreamer | no mi importa |
| 02:24.02 | ``rysh`` | sips his hot coffee |
| 02:24.12 | TheSarge | So? No disrespect meant, I just wasn't wrong i was minunderstood. |
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| 02:24.17 | stack` | is there setfcaps binary anywhere in debian? |
| 02:24.34 | simonrvn | stack`: /msg dpkg search |
| 02:24.35 | jetscreamer | hey did the m4 guy ever get his question answered? |
| 02:24.41 | jetscreamer | !m4 |
| 02:24.42 | dpkg | m4 is, like, a macro language on which autoconf is based |
| 02:24.52 | abrotman | except you said it like four times :) |
| 02:25.08 | abrotman | jetscreamer: he's the only person using it :) |
| 02:25.47 | Devrethman | how stable is testing? |
| 02:25.56 | jetscreamer | seems stable to me |
| 02:26.01 | streuner_ | not stable. |
| 02:26.02 | jetscreamer | but ymmv |
| 02:26.13 | abrotman | Devrethman: depends what you need it to do and your definition of stable |
| 02:26.15 | J-_ | Downloading the CD, see how this goes. I'm probably going to stick with Debian anyway. I don't like how Ubuntu is turning out. |
| 02:26.17 | Devrethman | cause some of the packages in stable are ancient |
| 02:26.23 | Devrethman | I need it to not die, like ever. |
| 02:26.32 | Devrethman | and I know unstable is horrible |
| 02:26.49 | Nasra | debian only 1 cd? |
| 02:26.49 | streuner_ | well, run stable then |
| 02:26.56 | stack` | simonrvn: I've searched around already. |
| 02:27.00 | J-_ | I can upgrade to Testing from stable, right? |
| 02:27.07 | Devrethman | I am, but some packages I need are horribly outdated in stable |
| 02:27.08 | TheSarge | Everytime I restart gdm I cant get it or anything x to come up I just get a black screen and a low pc beep? |
| 02:27.08 | stack` | J-_: yes |
| 02:27.12 | J-_ | awesome |
| 02:27.28 | streuner_ | Devrethman: /msg dpkg backports |
| 02:27.29 | stack` | J-_: not really |
| 02:27.41 | stack` | I've read something else sorry |
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| 02:28.08 | TheSarge | Maybe if I restart x? but I dont see it in /etc/init.d/ so how do you restart it? |
| 02:28.17 | jetscreamer | Nasra: you only need the first cd... but there are like 15 or so |
| 02:28.30 | jetscreamer | !netinst |
| 02:28.30 | dpkg | netinst is, like, a small CD or set of floppy images which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but which is not required for a base install to complete, see http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ If you use a dialup connection, ask me about <dialup install>. <netboot miniiso>, or ask me about <check iso image> |
| 02:28.45 | abrotman | more than 15 now IIRC |
| 02:28.49 | Nasra | first cd and so I can get it from debian site |
| 02:28.55 | Nasra | correct? |
| 02:28.56 | jetscreamer | yeah |
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| 02:29.39 | TheSarge | Fatal server error: lockup is what i get in the log |
| 02:30.08 | J-_ | stack`: Oh, no prob. :) |
| 02:30.25 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/gdm start ... but you need the 'restart xserver' option in gdm.conf set true, i think |
| 02:30.36 | jetscreamer | err s/start/restart/ |
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| 02:31.02 | TheSarge | Ya I know howto restart gdm dodnt realize that was the only way to restart x |
| 02:31.08 | jetscreamer | it's not.. |
| 02:31.15 | jetscreamer | ctrl alt bckspace |
| 02:31.19 | jetscreamer | in x |
| 02:31.35 | TheSarge | Ya restarting gdm doesnt work, just makes my screen go black a few times, then says x filed to start and lets me view the log |
| 02:31.52 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: Ya I know, I mean a command. |
| 02:32.01 | TheSarge | failed |
| 02:32.06 | J-_ | That's another thing I dislike about Jaunty. So used to ctrl alt backspace, and they change the darn thing. |
| 02:32.18 | abrotman | nvidia binary driver? |
| 02:32.21 | TheSarge | I have never seen the lockup message before |
| 02:32.23 | TheSarge | No |
| 02:32.24 | jetscreamer | about what? ubuntu? |
| 02:32.27 | TheSarge | Intel 810 |
| 02:32.39 | jetscreamer | no that's gdm's thing when x borks out abrotman |
| 02:32.50 | jetscreamer | for whatever reason |
| 02:32.54 | abrotman | jetscreamer: uhm .. no, works fine here |
| 02:33.08 | jetscreamer | uhhhh.... so x didn't bork on you |
| 02:33.09 | TheSarge | ctrl alt backspace works |
| 02:33.21 | ``rysh`` | J-_: yeah ... to protect the poor people who "accidently" hit CTRL ALT BKSP :-) .... |
| 02:33.33 | jetscreamer | J-_: you can set the ctrl alt bckspace thing to be on or off in xorg.conf |
| 02:33.39 | jetscreamer | trivial |
| 02:33.40 | TheSarge | it works after reboot, then i changed the resolution and restarted gdm and it doesnt |
| 02:33.52 | jetscreamer | change the rez back |
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| 02:34.21 | bpun | files in /usr/share/menu should show up in the menu no? |
| 02:34.28 | J-_ | Meh, I'm just going to install Debian. I've almost had enough of Ubuntu anyway. I want a new distro. I hate the notifications in Jaunty. |
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| 02:34.43 | jetscreamer | you 'might' need to do 'update-menus' bpun ... not sure |
| 02:35.25 | rhineheart_m | abrotman, this is my cpu flag.. please take a look: http://rafb.net/p/jSfKWq82.html |
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| 02:35.44 | jetscreamer | ok enough .. ' enouf ' ! i'm going to kill ppl now |
| 02:35.54 | rhineheart_m | abrotman, model name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ |
| 02:35.55 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: seems not to .. but i'd get verification |
| 02:36.01 | J-_ | puts his armour on. |
| 02:36.03 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: your CPU seems new enough that it should |
| 02:36.11 | ``rysh`` | J-_: be aware you will go back to an older window manager ... |
| 02:36.32 | rhineheart_m | abrotman, what do you mean/ |
| 02:36.44 | TheSarge | But he resolution worked fine untill I restarted x? |
| 02:36.52 | TheSarge | gdm rather |
| 02:37.14 | abrotman | rhineheart_m: maybe ask ##hardware or google ... your CPU seems like it should support it |
| 02:37.16 | jetscreamer | yes so change it back |
| 02:37.18 | jetscreamer | imo |
| 02:37.50 | jetscreamer | i810 is funny also, iirc... only does 16bit or something? |
| 02:37.56 | jetscreamer | something |
| 02:38.00 | J-_ | ``rysh``: What do you mean? Do you mean older Gnome version? Older Metacity? |
| 02:38.01 | jetscreamer | !i810 |
| 02:38.23 | ``rysh`` | yes .. and older kde |
| 02:38.24 | jetscreamer | ubuntu is more sid based, lenny would be older |
| 02:38.30 | abrotman | jetscreamer: uh .. no it does not |
| 02:38.46 | streuner_ | !lenny |
| 02:38.46 | jetscreamer | does not which, abrotman ? |
| 02:38.47 | dpkg | hmm... lenny is the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-15: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <lenny release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <release history>, <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 02:38.48 | J-_ | Makes sense. |
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| 02:39.01 | streuner_ | released on 2009-02-15, very old :-P |
| 02:39.02 | abrotman | jetscreamer: my intel card does 24bit ..and i think 32bit |
| 02:39.03 | ``rysh`` | J-_: Lenny still uses kde3 |
| 02:39.21 | jetscreamer | yeah.... it might have been w98 i was rememberiing... :) |
| 02:39.24 | J-_ | I use GNOME. I dislike KDE. |
| 02:39.28 | streuner_ | there are packages for KDE4 (lenny) |
| 02:39.41 | jetscreamer | there are a couple i810 chipsets though iirc... and one only does 16 |
| 02:39.47 | ``rysh`` | J-_: OK ... |
| 02:39.49 | jetscreamer | forgets totally |
| 02:39.56 | abrotman | jetscreamer: probably a dell machine! :) |
| 02:40.00 | jetscreamer | pats nvidia |
| 02:40.06 | J-_ | Hopefully GM965 works well in debian. I'm sure it will |
| 02:40.07 | TheSarge | yes its a dell pos |
| 02:40.28 | TheSarge | so am I going to have to restart just to get my x going again? |
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| 02:41.30 | stew | TheSarge: you shouldn't have to restart anything but X to get X going again |
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| 02:41.57 | TheSarge | stew: Ya thats what i thought, but after I restart gdm it tries 3 resolutions then fails. |
| 02:42.13 | TheSarge | stew: but if I restart the machine it will work? |
| 02:42.18 | stew | TheSarge: not likely |
| 02:42.23 | TheSarge | No it does |
| 02:42.26 | abrotman | wonders if lymeca even knows it's bouncy time |
| 02:42.29 | TheSarge | I have done it twice now |
| 02:42.38 | stew | TheSarge: show us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 02:43.13 | TheSarge | I know how to use pastebin but copying with screen doesnt work for me in iirsi, nor does gpm? |
| 02:43.32 | stew | TheSarge: upload it to http://paste.debian.net |
| 02:43.37 | TheSarge | I know it says Fatal error: Lockup |
| 02:43.49 | abrotman | i830WaitLoop() |
| 02:44.00 | TheSarge | stew:you can upload a file? |
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| 02:44.06 | stew | TheSarge: yes |
| 02:44.12 | TheSarge | and how would I paste you the link? |
| 02:44.36 | abrotman | type itin? |
| 02:44.53 | stew | TheSarge: type it? select it, then middle-click? |
| 02:45.08 | TheSarge | stew: Do you not see what i just said? |
| 02:45.12 | stew | TheSarge: yes |
| 02:45.25 | TheSarge | I cant use screens copy paste or gpm, so how could I do that? |
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| 02:45.34 | stew | TheSarge: why not? |
| 02:45.39 | stew | TheSarge: why not just type it then? |
| 02:45.58 | TheSarge | I dunno, ctrl a in irssi does nothing, and gpm doesnt like my mouse or something |
| 02:46.31 | TheSarge | stew: That url is like 60 charactars long, I cant memorize it nor do i have anything to write with right now |
| 02:46.34 | stew | TheSarge: ctrl-a in irssi should take you to the next window that has activity |
| 02:46.35 | TheSarge | so nm I guess |
| 02:46.55 | TheSarge | stew it does nothing I have to use alt + a number |
| 02:47.07 | J-_ | goes to find a CD. |
| 02:47.27 | streuner_ | J-_: /msg dpkg netinstall |
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| 02:50.07 | ``rysh`` | when will kde 4.2.2 come to sid? |
| 02:50.12 | maher | why is it so hard to find the external monitor resolutions available from a netbook you are thinking of acquiring? |
| 02:50.22 | streuner_ | ask #debian-kde |
| 02:50.23 | abrotman | ``rysh``: supposedly on the way |
| 02:50.37 | abrotman | <abrotman> http://ekaia.org/blog/2009/04/02/kde-42-in-unstable-is-coming/ |
| 02:50.55 | ``rysh`` | abrotman: .. thnx ... |
| 02:51.16 | TheSarge | There is no upload option that I see on the debian paste page |
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| 02:51.59 | TigerTjader | Hi |
| 02:52.11 | abrotman | TheSarge: it's towards the bottom of the form right next to the send button |
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| 02:52.47 | TigerTjader | I'm trying to set up dual head on the fglrx driver, but the bigger screen is not working right: http://imagebin.org/44488 |
| 02:52.58 | TigerTjader | Who is to blame? Fglrx? GNOME? X? |
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| 02:54.23 | ranix | lol |
| 02:54.30 | ranix | TigerTjader: probably fglrx |
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| 02:54.46 | TheSarge | well I dont know if its elinks formatting the page or what but after the send button there is nothing on the page |
| 02:54.49 | TigerTjader | Any idea how to fix it? |
| 02:54.54 | ranix | but it's hard to say. Can you manually drag that window farther right |
| 02:55.00 | TigerTjader | Yes. |
| 02:55.06 | ranix | switch to xfce4 |
| 02:55.10 | stew | TheSarge: before the send button is a file upload |
| 02:55.12 | ranix | and call it a day |
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| 02:55.23 | abrotman | you blame fglrx and then tell him to switch WMs ? |
| 02:55.35 | ranix | abrotman: did you see the image |
| 02:55.57 | ranix | looks like fglrx is improperly handling/reporting window size |
| 02:55.58 | TheSarge | stew: I am sure its dtarting to look like I am a troll or something but i promise there is no upload showing for me when I goto that page in elinks |
| 02:56.01 | TigerTjader | I think I'll try to install xfce4 and see if it works, then blame GNOME. |
| 02:56.01 | ranix | screen size even |
| 02:56.02 | jetscreamer | TigerTjader: xorg.conf is |
| 02:56.15 | ranix | I wouldn't call it gnome's FAULT |
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| 02:56.18 | stew | TheSarge: <input type="file" name="upload" /><input type="submit" name="paste" value="Send"/> |
| 02:56.23 | maher | ponders whether he should get an eee 1000he or a sumsung nc10 |
| 02:56.27 | ranix | or even say it was caused BY gnome |
| 02:56.41 | TheSarge | stew: okay? |
| 02:56.43 | stew | TheSarge: its the thing right before Send on the form |
| 02:56.47 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: how did you change the resolution? you 'should' have a backup of xorg.conf in /etc/X11 |
| 02:57.19 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: thats not the problem |
| 02:57.22 | jetscreamer | or is this another problem |
| 02:57.24 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:57.25 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, xorg.conf is what? |
| 02:57.35 | TheSarge | stew: you just type in the file location and press enter? |
| 02:57.38 | jetscreamer | is to blame, TigerTjader ... aka pebkac |
| 02:57.53 | stew | TheSarge: i'm not familiar with elinks |
| 02:58.52 | stew | TheSarge: most browsers would display a browse button which would let you select a file, or alternatively let you type a file. some browsers might submit the form when you hit enter, but hitting the send button should definately submit the form |
| 02:58.57 | TheSarge | stew: Okay lets do this differently I fixxed gpm, where is the log file again, sorry. |
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| 02:59.28 | stew | TheSarge: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:59.35 | TheSarge | Thanks ill have link in a sec |
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| 03:00.30 | TheSarge | oh my I have no luck today |
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| 03:00.53 | TheSarge | gpm only selects what fits on the screen at once? |
| 03:01.24 | stew | TheSarge: yes |
| 03:01.27 | superjet_busy | !kfreebsd |
| 03:01.28 | dpkg | well, debian gnu/kfreebsd is a port that consists of the GNU userland on top of the FreeBSD kernel, coupled with the Debian tools and packages. There is a BSD libc5 port, but the Glibc port is being focused on more. http://www.debian.org/ports/freebsd/ or Penix' almighty official installation guide can be found here: http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/doc/ |
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| 03:01.45 | TigerTjader | TheSarge, you want to pastebin something from the command line? |
| 03:01.47 | TheSarge | stew: so that wont work for me huh? |
| 03:01.56 | streuner_ | superjet_busy: please message the bot (/msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 03:01.56 | TheSarge | TigerTjader: yes a log file |
| 03:01.58 | TigerTjader | if yes, try aptitude install pastebinit |
| 03:02.25 | TheSarge | how about apt-get install pastebinit ? |
| 03:02.28 | TheSarge | sweet thx |
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| 03:02.57 | superjet_busy | streuner_: sure, just want to make sure as kfreebsd has entered into unstable|experimental |
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| 03:03.05 | superjet_busy | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/04/msg00001.html |
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| 03:04.02 | TheSarge | http://pastebin.com/f539ab66f |
| 03:04.13 | TheSarge | stew: ^ |
| 03:04.37 | TheSarge | TigerTjader: Thanks SOOOO much :) |
| 03:04.50 | TigerTjader | TheSarge, np |
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| 03:05.03 | TigerTjader | I've been in your situation before :p |
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| 03:06.21 | TheSarge | stew: make any sense of that? |
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| 03:08.17 | stew | TheSarge: what happens if you unload and reload the intel_agp module? |
| 03:08.35 | TheSarge | I havent tried? Whats the command? |
| 03:08.54 | jayb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.54 | jayb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.17 | stew | TheSarge: "modprobe -r modulename" to unload a module, "modprobe modulename" to load one |
| 03:09.23 | TigerTjader | xfce4 installed |
| 03:09.27 | TigerTjader | gonna try it. |
| 03:09.30 | TigerTjader | brb |
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| 03:09.52 | TheSarge | stew: Thanks, is the module name intel810? |
| 03:10.04 | TheSarge | or intel_agp? |
| 03:10.21 | stew | TheSarge: intel_agp |
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| 03:11.18 | BlueG | How do you revert a mixed system to stable? |
| 03:11.42 | stew | BlueG: "/msg dpkg partial downgrade" ; note that downgrading is not supported and things could break |
| 03:11.57 | TheSarge | stew: FATAL: Module intel_agp is in use. |
| 03:12.07 | TheSarge | and gdm isnt running |
| 03:13.14 | linch | i have two ips bound to eth0 and eth0:0; is there a way for my server to be configure on each interface separately? |
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| 03:13.36 | penrod[1] | greetings: where are the packages for the sarge distributuion ? I have an older distro that needs a package or two before I build a new server. |
| 03:13.41 | BlueG | stew: sounds like "partial upgrading" is a dangerous idea... |
| 03:13.50 | linch | guys, any help? |
| 03:13.51 | stew | BlueG: it is |
| 03:13.59 | linch | how can i do that? |
| 03:14.25 | stew | TheSarge: probably by your framebuffer. you might check the xserver-xorg-video-intel package for a related bug, and if there is none, you might consider filing one |
| 03:14.28 | TheSarge | stew: What is using it? |
| 03:14.47 | TheSarge | stew you think its a bug and I am just screwed? |
| 03:14.56 | stew | TheSarge: you might be able to get it working again by either turning off acceleration or by switching between XAA and EXA |
| 03:15.02 | maher | penrod[1]: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 03:15.08 | TheSarge | Great now I have to go back to ubuntu, this sucks |
| 03:15.08 | stew | TheSarge: i think its a bug. I don't think you are screwed |
| 03:15.17 | stew | TheSarge: why do you have to go back to ubuntu? |
| 03:15.23 | TheSarge | stew: If I restart it orks... |
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| 03:15.35 | TheSarge | stew: Cause i don't have this problem in ubuntu |
| 03:15.35 | stew | TheSarge: if this wasn't happening in ubuntu, try the xorg.conf you use with ubuntu |
| 03:15.45 | TheSarge | stew: thats long gone |
| 03:15.55 | TheSarge | I formateed the partition |
| 03:16.08 | stew | TheSarge: show us your xorg.conf |
| 03:16.39 | stew | TheSarge: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 03:16.45 | TheSarge | stew I already pasted it to you? |
| 03:16.56 | TigerTjader | xfce was no better than gnome :( |
| 03:17.04 | TheSarge | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 03:17.04 | stew | TheSarge: not to me. what is the url? |
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| 03:17.43 | TheSarge | lol yes to you I said "stew: http://pastebin.com/f539ab66f |
| 03:18.04 | stew | TheSarge: that's your Xorg.0.log |
| 03:18.15 | TheSarge | oh sorry |
| 03:19.04 | TheSarge | stew: http://pastebin.com/f554adef4 |
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| 03:19.46 | linch | any expert on debian networking willing to help? |
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| 03:21.33 | linch | exit |
| 03:21.37 | linch | exit |
| 03:21.38 | amitz | is there any default username in debian lenny who has the authority to run a custom webserver on port 80? what's the user name? |
| 03:21.44 | stew | linch: what do you mean by "configure separately"? |
| 03:21.53 | stew | amitz: root |
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| 03:22.08 | stew | amitz: only root can bind to ports <= 1024 in linux |
| 03:22.10 | amitz | stew: other than scary username such as root? |
| 03:22.21 | amitz | stew: ah, damn |
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| 03:22.49 | linch | i want them (interfaces) to be configured differently |
| 03:22.51 | amitz | what's the keyword to google if I want to authorize certain username to access port 80? |
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| 03:23.08 | linch | stew, thanks for your interest |
| 03:23.14 | stew | linch: what do you mean by "differently"? how are they configured now? |
| 03:24.28 | TheSarge | stew: did you see the paste? |
| 03:24.31 | linch | stew, i'd like to put a different iptable rules to each of them |
| 03:25.31 | stew | linch: you can't, they are the same interface as far as netfilter is concerned |
| 03:25.36 | linch | i mean, how can i block certain addresses on one interface and not on the other? |
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| 03:25.52 | stew | TheSarge: yes. i'd recommend trying to switch accel methods as a guess |
| 03:26.13 | stew | TheSarge: or disabling accel. or figure out what xorg.conf looked like in ubuntu |
| 03:26.16 | stew | TheSarge: or try a newer kernel |
| 03:26.19 | TigerTjader | Also, when I ran with both monitors as a single screen maximized windows would cover both monitors, instead of covering only one as expected with xrandr. |
| 03:26.21 | TheSarge | stew: I have no clue what that means? And why does it work again when I restart? What is being changed? |
| 03:26.23 | stew | linch: you can't |
| 03:26.54 | linch | stew, too bad, i thought somehow it was possible |
| 03:27.07 | stew | linch: its definately not possible |
| 03:27.17 | stew | TheSarge: you have no clue what which part means? |
| 03:27.33 | linch | stew, that's what i thought but wanted to believe otherwise |
| 03:27.42 | TheSarge | stew. how to change the acceleration methods? |
| 03:27.52 | linch | stew, thanks |
| 03:28.02 | stew | TheSarge: man intel |
| 03:28.31 | TheSarge | sighs |
| 03:29.06 | TheSarge | Nevermind I'll just deal with it or switch I guess, all i wanted was to get her comp running so she can browse the web and not have to use Ubuntu |
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| 03:29.21 | TheSarge | or god forbid windows |
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| 03:29.56 | stew | TheSarge: if you are going to get upset everytime someone points you to a manpage, this is probably neither the right channel, nor the right os for you anyway |
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| 03:30.22 | linch | stew, but it's somehow strange, because i thought that the kernel should direct traffic to the interface you choose, right? |
| 03:30.31 | jetscreamer | can n3wun halp me my visual studio won't run in an xterm!!! |
| 03:30.37 | stew | linch: yes, and eth0:1 and eth0 are the same interface |
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| 03:31.00 | linch | stew, physically yes but not logicaly |
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| 03:31.21 | stew | linch: logically as well |
| 03:31.33 | stew | linch: if you want to verify what I'm telling you, ask in #iptables |
| 03:31.34 | edman007 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/04/msg00001.html <- i thought the *BSD license was not compatible with GPL, so how is this thing going to work? |
| 03:31.44 | TheSarge | stew no maybe if people wernt so lazy to say RTFM instead of actually helping people.. I mean all you had to do was say uncomment the noaccel line |
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| 03:31.59 | TigerTjader | It's definitely fglrx's fault. it works fine with radeon. |
| 03:32.10 | stew | TheSarge: you mean I should have read the manpage for you? |
| 03:32.14 | TheSarge | There is no mention of other acceleration options anyways just on or off |
| 03:32.14 | stew | TheSarge: i don't have that manpage memorized |
| 03:32.24 | stew | TheSarge: and you don't have a NoAccell line |
| 03:32.28 | linch | stew, no i'm not trying to say what you have said is not true |
| 03:32.28 | TheSarge | You already knew what to do |
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| 03:32.34 | TheSarge | stew yes I do |
| 03:32.39 | TheSarge | I just uncommented it |
| 03:32.49 | jetscreamer | !comfort stew |
| 03:32.50 | dpkg | There, there, stew. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 03:32.54 | linch | stew, rather trying to understand logic |
| 03:33.06 | BlueG | So, alternatively, if downgrading a broken mixed system fails, what do you do? reinstall? |
| 03:33.08 | stew | TheSarge: http://pastebin.com/f554adef4 <- which line has NoAccel? |
| 03:33.21 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
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| 03:33.22 | dpkg | run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once, then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, DON'T edit sources, DON'T select anything, just go to option 1 (update sources) and JUST HIT ENTER a lot until you exit... you may have to hit y or n somewhere. Also, if you've never run dselect, you may have to use option 0 and choose APT Acquisition. |
| 03:33.30 | jetscreamer | that's what i do, blue |
| 03:33.43 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, you said my problem was on my xorg.conf, what would I have to do to fix it? |
| 03:33.49 | jetscreamer | nuke it from orbit is the second option |
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| 03:34.10 | linch | stew, so what's the point of having two ips? |
| 03:34.12 | jetscreamer | TigerTjader: never messed with ati.. cept once |
| 03:34.12 | BlueG | perhaps a better option to installing a mixed system would be trying backports or compiling the needed packages yourself? |
| 03:34.23 | linch | that i'm trying to understand |
| 03:34.30 | smacnay_ | are the fluendo plugins for totem no longer "in" as I see they conflict with the gstreamer-plugins-ugly package. |
| 03:34.32 | jetscreamer | TigerTjader: usually configure the ati/fglrx section |
| 03:34.55 | TheSarge | stew I dunno thats weird, maybe I added it without knowing |
| 03:34.58 | stew | linch: i have multiple IPs on some of my servers, for instance, that need to serve multiple different SSL certificates on port 443 |
| 03:35.03 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, it appears that isn't the problem anyway, as switching to the radeon driver made it work. |
| 03:35.04 | TheSarge | either way it didnt help |
| 03:35.38 | jetscreamer | TigerTjader: the radeon automagic works ... the nvidia automagic works ... the ati/fglrx automagic doesn't, or so it seems |
| 03:35.56 | jetscreamer | you can configure it manually |
| 03:35.59 | stew | TheSarge: so the paste you sent wasn't actually your xorg.conf? |
| 03:36.01 | linch | stew, with SSL i understand vaguely the logic behind it |
| 03:36.16 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, any idea where I can find some info on how to do it? |
| 03:36.22 | stew | linch: i have other servers that get traffic from multiple different connections, and have an ip for each connection |
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| 03:37.00 | jetscreamer | TigerTjader: #fglrx wasn't very helpful to me when i jacked around with it >1 year ago... try there now.. nyle knows how but he doesn't seem to be 'in' atm |
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| 03:37.19 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, thanks :) |
| 03:37.22 | linch | stew, but if it serves the same purpose as the other ip what's the point? |
| 03:37.22 | TheSarge | stew: Yes but where in my xorg.conf is the driver even listed I don't see it? |
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| 03:37.38 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: it's probably not listed... new automagic |
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| 03:37.48 | jetscreamer | you can add stuff though |
| 03:38.00 | stew | TheSarge: its not listed, its being detected automatically |
| 03:38.11 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: Then where exactly do i add this noaccel line? |
| 03:38.17 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, you mean #fglrx here on freenode? That's empty |
| 03:38.18 | TheSarge | stew ^ |
| 03:38.32 | stew | TheSarge: in the Device section |
| 03:38.36 | jetscreamer | TigerTjader: maybe it was #ati then |
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| 03:38.46 | TheSarge | stew hmm okay ill try that |
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| 03:39.01 | stew | TheSarge: i thought you already did? |
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| 03:39.12 | TigerTjader | jetscreamer, that worked, thanks |
| 03:39.13 | stew | TheSarge: if you already have a noaccel line, just uncomment it, i guess |
| 03:39.20 | stew | linch: if it serves the same purpose, perhaps there isn't a point to another ip |
| 03:39.37 | jetscreamer | oh hey isn't there an 'fglrx xorg autoconfigure' script ? |
| 03:39.58 | jetscreamer | oh nm |
| 03:40.01 | streuner | !stew |
| 03:40.02 | dpkg | i heard stew is a nasty bugger |
| 03:40.07 | streuner | !stew++ |
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| 03:40.24 | streuner | dpkg, forget stew |
| 03:40.25 | dpkg | i forgot stew, streuner |
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| 03:40.30 | jetscreamer | !stone stew (ok it was stone soup but wtf) |
| 03:40.30 | dpkg | hurls a boulder completely crushing stew (ok it was stone soup but wtf) |
| 03:40.36 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 03:40.41 | jetscreamer | didn't knowthat was there |
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| 03:41.43 | streuner | stew: sorry about !stew |
| 03:41.53 | TheSarge | stew: http://pastebin.com/f33926c7b |
| 03:41.57 | TheSarge | Like that? |
| 03:42.16 | TheSarge | I added the option at the beginning of the line, cause it wasnt there. |
| 03:42.27 | linch | stew, what makes me confused about the whole thing is that two different ips are the same logic -- as you have stated |
| 03:42.29 | TheSarge | "option" |
| 03:42.47 | jetscreamer | did you grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 03:43.12 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: I believe stew looked at it |
| 03:43.29 | streuner | he already did |
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| 03:43.36 | TheSarge | Yes i know...? |
| 03:43.43 | TheSarge | What are you talking about? |
| 03:44.01 | jetscreamer | visual studio of course.. isn't everybody? |
| 03:44.08 | linch | stew, i thought the point of having two different ips was to have a different routing to the system |
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| 03:44.37 | linch | stew, anyway, thanks for the info |
| 03:45.45 | TheSarge | grr same thing, it tries, I get a low pc speaker beep and a black screen the monitor clicks a few times then the screen that says it failed and asks if i want to see the log. |
| 03:46.20 | streuner | fuck, this laptop keyboard runs me nuts |
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| 03:46.53 | jetscreamer | !command streuner's nuts |
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| 03:47.02 | simonrvn | "drives". the kbd makes you go for nuts? :P |
| 03:47.05 | jetscreamer | well better than stone |
| 03:47.15 | amitz | any suggested website that test vulnerability of my computer online? Like port probes, etc? The non-shady ones! |
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| 03:47.31 | jetscreamer | amitz: grc.com .. browse from there |
| 03:47.42 | jetscreamer | port something |
| 03:47.42 | amitz | jetscreamer: thx |
| 03:48.06 | sardior | I am trying to manually partition my hard drive but I can't find any option to make a partition a swap partition... how is that done? |
| 03:48.24 | jetscreamer | mkswap -v1 /path/to/partition |
| 03:48.35 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 03:48.36 | simonrvn | no, don't put v1 |
| 03:48.39 | jetscreamer | you're partitioning |
| 03:48.48 | jetscreamer | uh, it borks if you don't put v1 afaik |
| 03:48.50 | blast_hardcheese | sardior: make sure to set the partition type as swap in fdisk |
| 03:48.52 | sardior | installing and manually partitioning |
| 03:48.56 | blast_hardcheese | jetscreamer: nope |
| 03:48.59 | jetscreamer | yeah partition type 82 |
| 03:49.04 | simonrvn | no it doesn't |
| 03:49.07 | jetscreamer | well it used to |
| 03:49.07 | blast_hardcheese | -v1 is not necessary |
| 03:49.19 | sardior | there's no option for it in the install |
| 03:49.40 | jetscreamer | oh in the installer? use as, or so, iirc |
| 03:49.48 | jetscreamer | it's in there |
| 03:50.01 | blast_hardcheese | sardior: Then don't worry about it. Leave a partition or don't. I personally prefer to have a swap file on one of the larger partitions, that way I don't lock myself into "I will only ever have this much swap space" |
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| 03:50.36 | jetscreamer | 'they' say a swapfile is slower, but i've never noticed |
| 03:50.50 | blast_hardcheese | uh. |
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| 03:51.14 | blast_hardcheese | Right, because having a contiguous swap file in the middle of your filesystem is much slower than seeking all the way to the outside of the disk |
| 03:51.15 | sardior | ok... trying to catch up on the screen here. |
| 03:51.18 | blast_hardcheese | riiiiiiiiiight |
| 03:51.20 | blast_hardcheese | ;) |
| 03:52.25 | blast_hardcheese | Anyone have a tutorial on reverse natting under iptables? I'm not really great at networking, something isn't clicking for me. |
| 03:52.30 | jetscreamer | sardior: you can just leave some space and make it later if you want, it will still work w/o |
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| 03:52.40 | simonrvn | on older hardware it is a tad slower |
| 03:53.02 | sardior | Ah found it... Thanks guys!! |
| 03:53.04 | jetscreamer | blast_hardcheese: #networking ppl are smart ... no idea personally |
| 03:53.13 | simonrvn | 'cause the kernel has to contend with 2 layers instead of the 1. |
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| 03:53.14 | blast_hardcheese | good pointer, I'll go bug them. |
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| 03:53.42 | blast_hardcheese | simonrvn: Ah, that makes sense. I rescind my ignorant comment. |
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| 03:53.54 | sardior | it changes the prompt to Use as "after" you choose swap area |
| 03:54.25 | sardior | Thanks again. |
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| 03:58.45 | jetscreamer | named pipe tutorial? |
| 03:58.53 | jetscreamer | url? |
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| 03:59.03 | jetscreamer | or just pipes |
| 03:59.42 | jetscreamer | !pipe |
| 03:59.43 | dpkg | i heard pipe is aptitude install manpages; man 7 pipe |
| 03:59.49 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 04:01.28 | jetscreamer | gah |
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| 04:14.09 | TheSarge | Its so weird that a reboot fixes it |
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| 04:22.42 | amitz | I'm not sure the mechanism of dns port. To be able to get DNS information to browse internet, is DNS port (port 53) must be left opened? |
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| 04:25.12 | stew | amitz: to get DNS reoslution, you need to be able to send to your DNS server's port 53, and get the reply from the same port, this is typically done using UDP |
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| 04:30.56 | lagann_ | #linux yo |
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| 04:35.58 | amitz | stew: thx |
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| 04:41.21 | Gnurdux | what option is there to tell X to take the first available display? |
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| 04:43.06 | TheSarge | Any good RTS's out there for linux? |
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| 04:44.33 | pl4yer0ne | TheSarge, http://appdb.winehq.org/ wine runs a fair few games |
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| 04:45.52 | TheSarge | Ya but I am on a 512mb 1.7ghz Celeron with onboard pos intel video, I think I better stick to native |
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| 04:47.35 | pfalcone | has anyone attempted to install adobe air on debian sid amd64? any hints to get rid of this error: ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin |
| 04:47.35 | pfalcone | Error loading the runtime (libnss3.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64) |
| 04:48.42 | pl4yer0ne | TheSarge, oh ok well there are a few but i dont know if they are any good sorry. (can find them in the repos) |
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| 04:49.30 | zinx | pfalcone: you're probably not running 64-bit debian |
| 04:49.47 | zinx | pfalcone: or it's 32-bit only :x |
| 04:49.57 | zinx | pfalcone: and you need to install a whole bunch of 32-bit libraries for it |
| 04:50.09 | pfalcone | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.09 | pfalcone | Linux paolo-1310 2.6.28-1-optimized-core2-mobile #1 SMP Wed Mar 18 13:11:58 PHT 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 04:50.15 | pfalcone | it's 64-bit alright. |
| 04:50.22 | pfalcone | but adobe air is 32bit |
| 04:51.03 | pfalcone | would i need to extract manually the 32bit library equivalents in /emul ? |
| 04:51.24 | zinx | libnss is probably installable |
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| 04:51.55 | pfalcone | can't find it though... no libnss32 |
| 04:52.08 | pfalcone | just a libnss32-mdns... probably not the one i need |
| 04:52.11 | zinx | call adobe :x |
| 04:52.17 | pfalcone | hahaha :D |
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| 04:52.48 | pfalcone | i'll just be another statistic there who'll say "hey it |
| 04:53.06 | pfalcone | it's the 9th year of the 21st century, and you're still stuck in 32bit!" |
| 04:53.08 | pfalcone | LOL |
| 04:53.28 | jelly-home | pfalcone: you mean, they're stuck in 32bit. |
| 04:53.38 | pfalcone | yeah. |
| 04:56.47 | jelly-home | !tell pfalcone -about dmm |
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| 04:57.07 | jelly-home | judd: versions ia32-libs-libnss3 |
| 04:57.08 | judd | jelly-home: ia32-libs-libnss3 -- |
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| 04:57.26 | jelly-home | there seems to be one: http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/package/ia32-libs-libnss3.php |
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| 04:57.49 | _abc_ | hi, what tricks are needed to upgrade 2.6.27 to 2.6.28 ? the new kernel can't find / |
| 04:58.17 | osubuck | try the bunny out of the hat trick :P |
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| 04:59.33 | pfalcone | you're using a debian kernel? |
| 04:59.45 | pfalcone | or compiling your own via make-kpkg? |
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| 05:00.32 | jahbulon | umm yea linux is failing |
| 05:00.38 | jahbulon | it's all frozen and slow |
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| 05:01.22 | jahbulon | fuck linux |
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| 05:01.35 | rhineheart_m | ows.. language.. |
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| 05:05.45 | Dassu | ;D |
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| 05:10.04 | TheSarge | Whats the Story on IceWeasel? Whats its focus vs FF? How many Browsers is Mozilla going to make? |
| 05:10.42 | zinx | TheSarge: iceweasel is firefox. Mozilla won't let Debian use the firefox trademark. |
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| 05:11.27 | nkuttler | TheSarge: /msg dpkg why iceweasel |
| 05:11.29 | _abc_ | TheSarge: like hänsel and gretel but different, what is focus ?, N+1 where N is a large positive integer |
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| 05:11.49 | AMorozov | Hi! |
| 05:12.06 | AMorozov | Is there a way to automatically purge all *already removed* packages? |
| 05:12.09 | _abc_ | pfalcone: i am using a kernel from ftp.kernel.org |
| 05:12.20 | _abc_ | without an initrd on a debian distro |
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| 05:13.06 | _abc_ | i used such one as 2.6.27.7 and when upping to 2.6.28.7 the boot disks are not found. the config was imported using make oldconfig + manual edit of the new edits, using the working config from 2.6.27.7 |
| 05:13.20 | _abc_ | any ideas what has changed ? 2.6.27.7 uses libata, but ... ?! |
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| 05:13.47 | TheSarge | But it lets fedora, SuSe, Ubuntu, Slackware, Gentoo, etc.. use it? |
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| 05:14.45 | TheSarge | Thats kinda weird? |
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| 05:16.24 | ``rysh`` | debian != fedora, opensuse, ubuntu |
| 05:16.46 | TheSarge | ? |
| 05:17.01 | TheSarge | So Mozilla has something against just debian? |
| 05:17.11 | zinx | TheSarge: ask mozilla |
| 05:17.12 | ``rysh`` | debian has other priorities |
| 05:17.20 | stew | TheSarge: you'd have to ask mozilla |
| 05:18.08 | TheSarge | You mean you guys just got a letter from Mozilla telling Debian specificly not to use the Firefox logo/name.. and just shrugged? |
| 05:18.33 | ``rysh`` | debian wanted to use a blue icon ... mozilla did not allow debian to do ... so thats why iceweasel |
| 05:18.40 | doleyb | TheSarge: it's not they sent a letter. The thing is that debian is more strict about "Free" software than most linux distros. And the icons of firefox aren't free |
| 05:18.41 | stew | TheSarge: they filed a bug report |
| 05:18.54 | stew | its not just about the icons either |
| 05:18.58 | stew | TheSarge: /msg dpkg why iceweasel |
| 05:19.10 | pfalcone | _abc_: you've tried specifying the root= or real_root= parameter when booting the kernel? |
| 05:19.30 | Blime | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel |
| 05:19.41 | TheSarge | what about OO.o there logo and name arent trademarked? |
| 05:19.54 | stew | TheSarge: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 for the bug that mozilla filed |
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| 05:33.50 | Tully | how do i compile my nvidia drivers with an earlier version of gcc or should i recompile my kernel |
| 05:35.59 | pl4yer0ne | Tully, use GCC=gcc-4.1 ./nvidia-installer-binary |
| 05:36.14 | pl4yer0ne | asuming your trying to do what i think your trying to do |
| 05:36.22 | stew | using the nvidia insatller is discouraged |
| 05:36.41 | pl4yer0ne | it is? |
| 05:36.58 | Tully | stew then how should i do it, since i have 3 monitors and 2 cards and the vesa drivers are shit |
| 05:37.07 | Tully | :S |
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| 05:38.00 | stew | pl4yer0ne: yes, see /msg dpkg why nvidia-installer sucks |
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| 05:40.25 | _abc_ | pfalcone i did not try that. should i ? are you on some kind of reflector ? my tab completion refuses to see your nick |
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| 05:40.38 | _abc_ | !seen pfalcone |
| 05:40.38 | dpkg | pfalcone <n=pfalcone@121.96.140.61> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 21m 28s ago, saying: '_abc_: you've tried specifying the root= or real_root= parameter when booting the kernel?'. |
| 05:40.47 | _abc_ | ebeh |
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| 05:41.21 | pl4yer0ne | _abc_, see one line above your question... they quit |
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| 05:42.02 | CapaH | Does anyone here have a 10+ button mouse? I am trying to figure out how to configure it |
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| 05:43.00 | pl4yer0ne | 10+ buttons? dude thats your keyboard not a mouse |
| 05:43.03 | J-_ | I just installed ubuntu, but my wireless isn't working. Do I have to enable the iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode before installation how it asked, or can I do it after? |
| 05:43.23 | stew | J-_: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu |
| 05:43.28 | pl4yer0ne | J-_, #ubuntu is thataway ---> |
| 05:43.40 | J-_ | I ment Debian, dudes. Sorry. |
| 05:44.00 | J-_ | I've come from an Ubuntu background. It came as default. :( |
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| 05:44.31 | stew | J-_: install the firmware-iwlwifi package, which is in the non-free repository: /msg dpkg non-free |
| 05:44.35 | [pablo] | any idea why mkinitrd command isn't available on debian sid? |
| 05:44.55 | [pablo] | how else can I make an initrd? (no, yaird didn't work) |
| 05:44.58 | J-_ | stew: Cool. Thanks, I'll give it a go. |
| 05:45.08 | stew | [pablo]: becuase you shouldn't be using mkinitrd with kernels after 2.6.13, use mkinitramfs from initramfs-tools |
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| 05:46.36 | [pablo] | stew: aaah.. thanks a lot |
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| 05:51.53 | Blime | what's the best way to do a clean sid install? minimal lenny netinst, then change the apt sources, then tasksel up to full desktop? |
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| 05:53.08 | J-_ | By 2 main mirror lines, does the bot mean the deb and deb-src in, "http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/"? |
| 05:53.38 | Pulpie | !ati oneliner |
| 05:53.39 | dpkg | hmm... fglrx is "FireGL and Radeon for X", the proprietary display driver made available by ATI. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner>. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary, #ati @ irc.freenode.net. See also <radeon>. |
| 05:53.52 | Pulpie | whats the ati radeon one liner? |
| 05:54.02 | Pulpie | !radeon oneliner |
| 05:54.10 | Pulpie | !radeon oneliner |
| 05:54.26 | stew | J-_: no it means the lines in /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 05:55.11 | Pulpie | anyone know???? |
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| 05:59.12 | J-_ | stew: Thanks. |
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| 06:02.39 | BoredK | I'm tring to upgrade from Etch to Debian. I followed this tutorial: http://www.go2linux.org/upgrading-debian; when I do a reboot my box does not come online. What could be going wrong? |
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| 06:05.05 | linch | clear |
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| 06:06.10 | stew | BoredK: did you change kernels? |
| 06:06.41 | BoredK | I think it did change kernels stew |
| 06:06.58 | stew | BoredK: then the name of your root partition might have changed |
| 06:07.10 | stew | BoredK: do you have a console on the box? |
| 06:07.19 | BoredK | nah this is a remote box |
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| 06:07.30 | BoredK | they're reformatting it |
| 06:07.49 | BoredK | with etch again since they don't have lenny |
| 06:08.02 | BoredK | what do you suggest I do |
| 06:08.49 | _abc_ | Pulpie: !fglrx one-liner |
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| 06:09.29 | stew | BoredK: start reading around here: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#device-reorder |
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| 06:09.42 | stew | BoredK: i recommend switching to uuids: /msg dpkg uuid |
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| 06:12.30 | BoredK | thanks stew |
| 06:13.02 | stew | BoredK: i also recommend setting up grub fallback so that if your newer kernel doesn't boot the old one might: /msg dpkg grub fallback |
| 06:13.36 | stew | (and I recommend using a provider that will install lenny for you in the first place :) ) |
| 06:13.41 | BoredK | :P |
| 06:13.48 | TheSarge | Does lenny have some quick mounting tool? |
| 06:13.53 | linch | stew, i asked on another forum about the subject --2 ips--, and they say it's perfectly possible |
| 06:13.53 | caimlas | I've got a debian 5 install with samba (smbd) consuming ~50% of cpu time while (essentially) idle. samba is set up with pretty basic shares and cups. there are no errors (or anything else, really, after a service restart) in the logs, and restarting the service doesn't fix the matter. This is a 700MHz celeron. Does anyone have any ideas? |
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| 06:14.11 | stew | linch: what is possible? |
| 06:15.16 | linch | iptables routing packets into the system by interfaces |
| 06:15.34 | stew | linch: iptables routing? |
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| 06:16.00 | linch | strage, isn't it? ;-)) |
| 06:16.07 | asdfqewr | anyone know which tree in gconf-editor houses all my keybindings? |
| 06:16.14 | asdfqewr | for gnome |
| 06:16.16 | stew | linch: i don't follow what you are saying |
| 06:16.30 | TheSarge | stew if my other 2 drives didnt mount at boot, is there some kind of automagical gui tool I can use? |
| 06:16.38 | stew | linch: you were asking about iptables treating eth0:1 differently than eth0, which isn't possible |
| 06:16.46 | stew | linch: you can have iptables filter based on ip address though |
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| 06:16.53 | stew | TheSarge: yes |
| 06:17.06 | linch | stew, they told me it is possible if eth is bound to an ip |
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| 06:17.11 | linch | which in my case is |
| 06:17.12 | TheSarge | Stew can you please tell me the name of this tool? |
| 06:17.33 | stew | TheSarge: there are many |
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| 06:18.41 | TheSarge | stew, anything that might be installed already? |
| 06:18.45 | caimlas | anyone know what might cause samba to have a high (when idle, 50%) cpu time? |
| 06:18.50 | Jingly | giggles so hard a tiny fart escapes |
| 06:18.50 | TheSarge | stew or just list a couple so I can install one? |
| 06:18.51 | Jingly | that was a good one, caimlas =] |
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| 06:19.33 | linch | stew, i think that there is no point of having an interface without an ip |
| 06:19.43 | stew | linch: there is |
| 06:19.47 | stew | linch: but you are misunderstanding |
| 06:20.02 | stew | linch: it is not possible to tell iptables to treat eth0:1 differently than eth0 |
| 06:20.15 | linch | stew, now i get it |
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| 06:20.27 | stew | linch: what someone is telling you is that if the two have different ip addresses, you can tell iptables to filter based on ip address and get essentially the same result |
| 06:20.43 | caimlas | Jingly, uh, was there a joke I missed, are you talking someone else, or are you ridiculing me? |
| 06:20.46 | linch | i was, as you might remember, little bit confused about it |
| 06:20.53 | Jingly | I dunno. |
| 06:21.33 | batcoder-7 | what is a good svn client for linux? |
| 06:21.35 | linch | stew, would you mind telling me the point of having an interface without an ip |
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| 06:22.00 | stew | linch: there are other protocols you could use besides ip, and you could use it to sniff |
| 06:22.41 | Pulpie | !radeon |
| 06:22.42 | dpkg | [radeon] A brand of graphics processing units by ATI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon. For chipsets prior to R500 (ie. models up to and including the X1050), use the "radeon" xorg driver and optionally install 'libgl1-mesa-dri' for 3D acceleration. Alternatively, the non-free <fglrx> driver can be used (all models, usually better 3D performance/features). #radeon @ freenode. See also <radeonhd>. |
| 06:22.50 | linch | stew, thanks |
| 06:23.08 | batcoder-7 | i would like a svn client how would i go about getting one? |
| 06:23.19 | batcoder-7 | i would just like to checkout a few repos |
| 06:23.19 | stew | batcoder-7: the subversion package |
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| 06:23.45 | batcoder-7 | would that do what i want stew i dont want a svn server |
| 06:24.04 | Pulpie | i dont have libg11-mesa-dri in my cache |
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| 06:24.18 | stew | batcoder-7: that would give you an 'svn' command you could use to "svn checkout someurl" |
| 06:24.30 | stew | batcoder-7: (it would give you an svn server to, but it would not be enabled by default) |
| 06:24.31 | Pulpie | !ati |
| 06:24.31 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon>, and <radeonhd>. and <radeon vs radeonhd> |
| 06:24.38 | Pulpie | !fglrx |
| 06:24.38 | dpkg | fglrx is, like, "FireGL and Radeon for X", the proprietary display driver made available by ATI. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner>. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary, #ati @ irc.freenode.net. See also <radeon>. |
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| 06:24.45 | martian67 | !radeon vs radeonhd |
| 06:24.45 | dpkg | <radeon> project started under non-disclosure agreement with ATI to develop <free software> drivers for Radeon graphics cards. In 2007, after ATI released its documentation, second project, <radeonhd> started (from scratch) with focus on newer hardware. Differences and similarities can be found at: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature |
| 06:24.50 | Pulpie | !fglrx one-liner |
| 06:24.51 | Jerig | Can anyone tell me what kernel headers are currently used to build glibc in testing, please? |
| 06:24.51 | dpkg | Ensure you have <non-free sources> added. Exit X / stop any <DM>, then: "aptitude install module-assistant fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src && m-a a-i fglrx && modprobe -r radeon drm && modprobe fglrx && echo fglrx >> /etc/modules". Lenny users: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and specify 'fglrx' for the driver in the Device section (man xorg.conf). Etch users: Run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select fglrx. |
| 06:24.53 | Jingly | no u dpkg |
| 06:24.58 | batcoder-7 | stew, do you know offhand the debian package nane for that? |
| 06:24.59 | Jingly | NOOOOO!! :( |
| 06:25.31 | stew | batcoder-7: the name of the subversion package? |
| 06:25.38 | batcoder-7 | yea |
| 06:25.45 | stew | batcoder-7: subversion |
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| 06:29.25 | TheSarge | stew you know the name of one? |
| 06:30.27 | stew | TheSarge: many, and I'd tell you how to find them, but then you'd just not like my answer |
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| 06:33.47 | batcoder-7 | anyone here ever use mc any? |
| 06:33.52 | Jingly | giggles so hard a tiny fart escapes |
| 06:33.53 | Jingly | that was a good one, batcoder-7 =] |
| 06:33.54 | batcoder-7 | or should i say midnight commander? |
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| 06:34.06 | stew | Jingly: please repond to my PMs |
| 06:34.17 | stew | batcoder-7: just as your real question |
| 06:34.29 | batcoder-7 | no question but i feel like iam the only one using it now |
| 06:34.37 | stew | batcoder-7: you aren't |
| 06:34.37 | TheSarge | stew, I understand there is many, I am just asking you to list a single one. I have been apt-caching for like an hour? |
| 06:35.33 | Pulpie | hey im doing the fglrx one liner and its removing all these packages... |
| 06:35.35 | Pulpie | why? |
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| 06:38.00 | _abc_ | batcoder-7: you are not alone |
| 06:38.36 | _abc_ | Pulpie: dependency collision. it will replace them with updated ones |
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| 06:38.39 | batcoder-7 | i just wish there could be some way that i could open a file in vim from it in a good way |
| 06:39.00 | Pulpie | _abc_: i get can not find package "fglrx" when running the one liner |
| 06:39.00 | _abc_ | batcoder-7: you can edit the config to do anything you like |
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| 06:39.33 | _abc_ | Pulpie: you need to edit the dpkg config to add the nonfree repository indicated first |
| 06:39.40 | _abc_ | read the instructions carefully |
| 06:39.41 | Pulpie | _abc_: i already did and updated |
| 06:39.46 | batcoder-7 | it seems like it wants to open the file and then return to mc i would like if it just opened the file with a certain set of arguements and then it would just not return after i close the file editor you know what i mean _abc_ > |
| 06:39.48 | batcoder-7 | ? |
| 06:39.59 | _abc_ | no |
| 06:40.05 | Pulpie | _abc_: it turns out the oneliner is broken, i did it in seperate commands and its working so far |
| 06:40.12 | _abc_ | how could it not return on one terminal ?! |
| 06:40.23 | _abc_ | Pulpie: so it works then ? |
| 06:40.31 | Pulpie | _abc_: if you break it apart only |
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| 06:41.09 | _abc_ | ok, but it does work ? maybe you are using a shell that is not what the one-liner expects ? |
| 06:41.15 | Pulpie | _abc_: i get an error on modprobe fglrx |
| 06:41.19 | Pulpie | _abc_: im using bash... |
| 06:41.24 | _abc_ | some 'clever' guys post csh scripts for admin work. barf |
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| 06:42.00 | _abc_ | tis really geeky to mess up everything with csh. netbsd boots by default with csh as root shell. OW. |
| 06:42.03 | Pulpie | _abc_: the one liner is in bash type setup |
| 06:42.07 | stew | batcoder-7: uncheck 'use internal editor' in the 'configuration' from the 'options' menu |
| 06:42.20 | _abc_ | Pulpie: then it must have a typo in it |
| 06:42.34 | lxsameer | hi , my laptop get to hot when i use that in these days , my CPU thermal goes to 70 C . my hardware work well . can my linux configuration cause this? |
| 06:42.41 | stew | batcoder-7: (assuming your editor alternative is set for vim, if not, update-alternatives --config editor) |
| 06:42.47 | batcoder-7 | _abc_, i use vim i would like when i open the file in mc to open it in another terminal or more precisely the terminal i already have open, which can be done using vi ---remote it looks there first before opening a new whole vim |
| 06:42.59 | batcoder-7 | stew, ^^ |
| 06:43.00 | _abc_ | lxsameer: open the laptop and clean the fan and the radiator with a brush |
| 06:43.15 | Pulpie | _abc_: "modprobe fglrx" right? |
| 06:43.22 | lxsameer | _abc_: i do that before |
| 06:43.33 | _abc_ | batcoder-7: are youusing vim under x11 or terminals ? |
| 06:43.41 | stew | batcoder-7: if you have that option unchecked it should use the EDITOR env variable to decide how to open the file |
| 06:43.57 | _abc_ | lxsameer: see if the acpi and powerstep modules are loaded |
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| 06:44.41 | _abc_ | stew: actually i have EDITOR and VISUAL set but mc uses its internal one all the time. it's a config issue |
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| 06:45.11 | stew | _abc_: right, which is why i told him how to configure it not to use the internal one |
| 06:45.24 | lxsameer | _abc_: acpi_cpufreq module is loaded but powerstep not |
| 06:45.32 | _abc_ | oh, i see 'use internal editor' under options |
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| 06:45.45 | _abc_ | lxsameer: what if you load it by hand ? |
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| 06:46.36 | lxsameer | _abc_: what is it for? |
| 06:47.21 | lxsameer | _abc_: module not found |
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| 06:47.36 | Pulpie | echo:: not found |
| 06:47.52 | Pulpie | http://pastebin.com |
| 06:47.54 | Pulpie | wtf |
| 06:48.01 | Pulpie | pastebinit doesnt work anymore? |
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| 06:50.44 | TheSarge | Stew actually shouldnt my drive be automounted at boot time anyways? |
| 06:51.17 | stew | TheSarge: maybe |
| 06:51.25 | TheSarge | stew? |
| 06:51.26 | Pulpie | _abc_: http://pastebin.com/f787af55 |
| 06:51.37 | stew | TheSarge: i have no idea how you configured your machine |
| 06:51.58 | TheSarge | I havent configured anything, I just let the installer run, stew. |
| 06:52.16 | stew | TheSarge: then probably not |
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| 06:52.42 | TheSarge | No I see them, problem is that a normal user cant mount them |
| 06:52.48 | Pulpie | can anyone help me on debian installing fglrx http://pastebin.com/f787af55 |
| 06:54.01 | jetscreamer | !pmount |
| 06:54.01 | dpkg | from memory, pmount is "policy mount", an application to make it easier to (un)mount removable media such as USB flash memory sticks. e.g. as normal user, "pmount sda1" mounts it at /media/sda1. no superuser. no need to create a mount point. nb you'll need to be in the plugdev group (but you'll know that from /usr/share/doc/pmount). |
| 06:54.44 | jetscreamer | !fglrx |
| 06:54.45 | dpkg | fglrx is, like, "FireGL and Radeon for X", the proprietary display driver made available by ATI. To install, ask me about <fglrx one-liner>. http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary, #ati @ irc.freenode.net. See also <radeon>. |
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| 06:55.53 | jetscreamer | edit fstab? |
| 06:56.01 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: i shouldn't have to |
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| 06:56.24 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: I have already read all of that |
| 06:56.34 | exd | hello i ran apt-get install virtualbox |
| 06:56.42 | Pulpie | exd: congrats you did it wrong |
| 06:56.52 | exd | :O |
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| 06:57.04 | exd | virtualbox: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4.3) but it is not installable |
| 06:57.04 | exd | E: Broken packages |
| 06:57.11 | jetscreamer | i can help you with nvidia, Pulpie ... |
| 06:57.14 | Pulpie | exd: --fix-mising |
| 06:57.17 | Pulpie | missing* |
| 06:57.25 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: dont have nvidia. |
| 06:57.30 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 06:57.37 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: dont help if you dont know what you are talking about |
| 06:57.38 | jetscreamer | you don't say |
| 06:57.47 | jetscreamer | i spammed the bot |
| 06:57.53 | jetscreamer | and it was over |
| 06:57.54 | Pulpie | i saw, congrats. |
| 06:57.56 | jetscreamer | till you... |
| 06:58.01 | jetscreamer | now we must atone |
| 06:58.07 | jetscreamer | !sacrifice Pulpie |
| 06:58.08 | dpkg | intones "Um num shiva, Um num shiva" and rips out Pulpie's still beating heart |
| 06:58.21 | exd | Pulpie: how to run with --fix-mising? |
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| 06:58.33 | Pulpie | exd: .... man apt-get ? |
| 06:58.34 | jetscreamer | apt-get -f install |
| 06:58.36 | jetscreamer | just that |
| 06:58.55 | jetscreamer | !aptitude |
| 06:58.55 | dpkg | [aptitude] now the recommended tool for managing packages on your Debian system. You can use it as a CLI replacement for apt-get; it keeps track of automatically installed packages and will offer to remove them when no longer required. Aptitude, like apt-get in Lenny, also installs "Recommended" packages that are usually required but you have the option not to install them. Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>. |
| 06:58.56 | stew | exd: you are installing a package that was either intended for an ancient version of debian, or for something other than debian |
| 06:58.57 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: wrong |
| 06:59.04 | jetscreamer | Pulpie: no |
| 06:59.14 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: thats fix broken |
| 06:59.19 | Pulpie | its fix missing |
| 06:59.47 | exd | same result |
| 06:59.47 | Pulpie | i believe it said the package should have been found |
| 06:59.53 | Pulpie | exd: on both of them? |
| 06:59.57 | stew | it shouldn't be found |
| 06:59.59 | stew | its ancient |
| 07:00.03 | Pulpie | stew: exactly |
| 07:00.10 | stew | libqt3c102-mt was last in sarge iirc |
| 07:00.11 | Pulpie | exd: its apt-get install virtualbox-ose |
| 07:00.12 | exd | Pulpie: ya |
| 07:00.38 | Pulpie | exd: for some reason you have a package that doesn't really exist anymore so you should apt-get update |
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| 07:00.59 | exd | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.08 | exd | *fine |
| 07:01.20 | Pulpie | exd: i know. |
| 07:01.25 | Pulpie | exd: so there ya go |
| 07:01.34 | _abc_ | Pulpie: dmesg|tail|wgetpaste |
| 07:01.58 | lxsameer | _abc_: what is powerstep module for ? |
| 07:02.16 | _abc_ | lxsameer: depending on your cpu, switches power save modes |
| 07:02.26 | exd | Pulpie: when i open virtualbox its gives me critical error |
| 07:02.28 | _abc_ | lxsameer: what does top say ? what's your load ? |
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| 07:02.43 | glick | hi |
| 07:02.43 | _abc_ | lxsameer: also get powertop from intel and run it as root |
| 07:02.50 | _abc_ | it will help you get the setting right |
| 07:02.56 | Pulpie | exd: it should because you have not finished the install |
| 07:02.59 | _abc_ | glick: ho |
| 07:03.06 | Pulpie | exd: read the error and modprobe it |
| 07:03.14 | TheSarge | Where is fstab? |
| 07:03.19 | lxsameer | _abc_: thanks a question is what is powertop for? |
| 07:03.22 | Pulpie | _abc_: pastebin.com/f323b9d31 |
| 07:03.24 | Pulpie | TheSarge: /etc/ |
| 07:03.24 | _abc_ | Pulpie: did you do dmesg after that error ? |
| 07:03.34 | Pulpie | _abc_: yeah its in pastebin |
| 07:03.35 | TheSarge | Then my system is broken |
| 07:03.37 | glick | hey whats the difference between debian and ubuntu? |
| 07:03.42 | lxsameer | _abc_: and how can i find my cpu load |
| 07:03.42 | jetscreamer | omfg i was wrong ... i'm not wrong that you're an asshole though |
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| 07:03.50 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 07:04.12 | _abc_ | lxsameer: top |
| 07:04.12 | TheSarge | Pulpie, why isnt mine in /etc? |
| 07:04.14 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: im not an asshole, im just trying to give the correct answers and make sure people get their problems fixed |
| 07:04.16 | exd | Pulpie: apt-get install virtualbox-ose is that all i need to install? |
| 07:04.18 | Pulpie | TheSarge: where is yours then |
| 07:04.22 | Pulpie | exd: no |
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| 07:04.31 | Pulpie | exd: http://chirale.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/-ose-debian-install-howto/ read this, its from google. |
| 07:04.33 | TheSarge | Pulpie, I don't know that is what I am trying to find |
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| 07:04.42 | _abc_ | jetscreamer: what's this about attributes ?! :) |
| 07:04.47 | Pulpie | TheSarge: updatedb | locate fstab |
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| 07:05.12 | jetscreamer | /etc/fstab |
| 07:05.17 | jetscreamer | ls /etc/fstab |
| 07:05.19 | neosix | Hello! Can anybody tell me how to install e17 on Lenny? |
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| 07:05.26 | jetscreamer | !e17 |
| 07:05.27 | dpkg | Don't even think about asking ljlane anything about e17 or efm. see DR17, or http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=998439&cid=25407381 |
| 07:05.28 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: read before, he said it wasn't there and hes trying to find it |
| 07:05.29 | _abc_ | TheSarge: if your fstab is not in etc then type %SHELL% should print cmd.exe or similar |
| 07:05.33 | glick | anyone? im running fedora now but interseted in trying deb or ubuntu |
| 07:05.39 | neosix | I did that long time on Etch and I can't remember now. |
| 07:05.41 | TheSarge | jetscreamer, do you do that on purpose or are you just half blind? |
| 07:05.44 | glick | they look very similar |
| 07:05.46 | jetscreamer | Pulpie: he said earlier that some drives aren't there |
| 07:05.51 | glick | pretty much identical |
| 07:05.54 | Pulpie | TheSarge: ignore him, hes just trolling |
| 07:05.55 | jetscreamer | i find it hard to believe he doesn't have one |
| 07:05.56 | glick | whats the dif? |
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| 07:06.12 | TheSarge | Ya its not there, it was in /bin wtf |
| 07:06.19 | glick | im not trolling |
| 07:06.21 | glick | oh |
| 07:06.23 | Pulpie | glick: not you |
| 07:06.32 | jetscreamer | he meant me |
| 07:06.39 | TheSarge | jetscreamer, Ya I figured he was a troll earlier. |
| 07:06.40 | glick | oh |
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| 07:06.44 | glick | heh sorry |
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| 07:06.47 | kanisterschleife | hi all |
| 07:06.48 | killabeez | whats going on tonight |
| 07:06.57 | _abc_ | TheSarge: what does cat /proc/mounts print ? |
| 07:07.04 | Pulpie | glick: but techically all linux distros are very simular. I mostly dont use them half the time because of the fact that they have very little real freedom compared to BSD or Solaris |
| 07:07.14 | TheSarge | _abc_, I got it, I just had to move it back |
| 07:07.24 | _abc_ | TheSarge: how did it get there ?!! |
| 07:07.25 | Pulpie | glick: but its mostly pkg mngr difference |
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| 07:07.40 | Pulpie | glick: and dev teams, what supports different hardware by default as well. |
| 07:07.41 | glick | Pulpie: what do you mean they have very little freedom? |
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| 07:07.57 | Pulpie | glick: if you use BSD or something everything is a lot more interchangable |
| 07:08.06 | Pulpie | glick: and tons easier in the long run |
| 07:08.24 | Pulpie | glick: oh and very organized |
| 07:08.34 | glick | i tried bsd a long time ago |
| 07:08.34 | _abc_ | i think that he means that because of no tab completion and not having csh as default root shell it is much easier to freely type stupid commands that need to be corrected and edited |
| 07:08.49 | TheSarge | _abc_, I have no clue, did fresh install today |
| 07:08.49 | glick | im just interested in it for a laptop |
| 07:08.53 | _abc_ | i also use bsd but ... |
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| 07:09.04 | glick | for email, some coding, browsing, porn, etc |
| 07:09.07 | Pulpie | BSD is usefull but takes a lot to setup |
| 07:09.09 | _abc_ | TheSarge: did you exec some scripts ? move partitions ? |
| 07:09.13 | Pulpie | thats why most people use linux, easy to setup |
| 07:09.20 | Pulpie | or suppose to be >.> |
| 07:09.25 | TheSarge | _abc_, Can you tell me what I need to change to let all users mount any partition of any drive in my machine? |
| 07:09.27 | _abc_ | Pulpie: not true, vanilla distros are up faster than linux |
| 07:09.34 | jetscreamer | is this still the i810 for your mom? |
| 07:09.34 | TheSarge | _abc_, Nope |
| 07:09.44 | Pulpie | _abc_: no "vanilla" distro is faster then freebsd. |
| 07:10.00 | _abc_ | when you stray off the well trodden path, that's when the bugs begin to hit the windshield, followed by dogs, cows, elephants etc |
| 07:10.15 | _abc_ | with bsd i mean |
| 07:10.17 | TheSarge | Can I just remove noauto and add user ? |
| 07:10.20 | Pulpie | i run a 233 as a web, email, irc and other services + web browsing |
| 07:10.28 | Pulpie | and i stay off the trodden path all the time with it |
| 07:10.29 | jetscreamer | take the no off |
| 07:10.32 | _abc_ | also support groups tend to be rather cold and diss newbies seriously |
| 07:10.33 | kanisterschleife | I've got some question concerning networks: is it correct that a router acts as a bridge + router? for example, if I have two computers, both connected to a router, one (say A) via ethernet, one (say B) wireless - then, when trying to send data from B to A, is it possible to send a 802.11 frame with MAC dest Adress A? will the router see the package and detect that it is aimed for some device ethernet-connected to it, convert it t |
| 07:10.33 | kanisterschleife | ethernet frame and forward it to A? |
| 07:10.35 | jetscreamer | leave auto |
| 07:10.41 | jetscreamer | and add user or users |
| 07:10.46 | Pulpie | _abc_: actually they truely dont anymore |
| 07:10.50 | Younix_ | so how do i print from a 'winprinter' |
| 07:10.52 | exd | E: Package virtualbox-ose-modules has no installation candidate |
| 07:10.57 | TheSarge | _abc_ do you know? |
| 07:11.01 | Pulpie | _abc_: the freebsd group here works on that every day. |
| 07:11.04 | Pulpie | TheSarge: he doesn't |
| 07:11.06 | jetscreamer | exd: maybe in non-free or contrib |
| 07:11.07 | _abc_ | half the questions asked on #linux would earn one a kickban on any bsd channel |
| 07:11.20 | glick | im running kde but i find it kina crappy |
| 07:11.21 | Pulpie | _abc_: only true cause they are linux and not BSD |
| 07:11.22 | glick | not very polished |
| 07:11.30 | glick | has integration issues |
| 07:11.35 | Pulpie | _abc_: linux questions are not allowed in BSD its just common sense. |
| 07:11.40 | _abc_ | glick: what do you compare it with ? |
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| 07:11.53 | glick | which is too bad because it has some really nice programs |
| 07:11.54 | exd | non free |
| 07:11.59 | _abc_ | Pulpie: of course, that's why they kickban anyone who asks them |
| 07:11.59 | glick | _abc_: compared to gnome |
| 07:12.02 | TheSarge | Pulpie, do you? |
| 07:12.04 | Pulpie | glick: it is really choppy |
| 07:12.20 | Pulpie | TheSarge: i run freebsd every day and other BSD's and am very active in the nice community |
| 07:12.29 | glick | yeah Pulpie i thought it was just me, like my video card wasnt fast enough or something |
| 07:12.36 | TheSarge | Pulpie, Okay? |
| 07:12.37 | glick | or that i didnt have it configured correctly |
| 07:12.37 | Pulpie | glick: yeah its that way |
| 07:12.44 | glick | that blows |
| 07:12.45 | Pulpie | glick: you need to have a gaming video card to run it |
| 07:12.54 | Pulpie | glick: which makes no sense because i use windows to game. |
| 07:12.55 | jetscreamer | glxinfo | grep -i vendor |
| 07:12.56 | glick | pfft |
| 07:12.57 | dominiks | hello, http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/scope.html is in french language, where can I find EN version please? |
| 07:13.14 | glick | yeah ima go back to gnome |
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| 07:13.28 | glick | kate is a really awesome editor |
| 07:13.35 | glick | whish they had something like it for gnome |
| 07:13.35 | Pulpie | glick: i'd suggest xfce for a change, very lightweight but a nice interface thats close to gnome |
| 07:13.38 | jetscreamer | you can run any kde app in gnome |
| 07:13.39 | Pulpie | glick: gedit? |
| 07:13.42 | _abc_ | http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 07:13.44 | glick | i like the termainal built in |
| 07:13.46 | exd | jetscreamer: its non free |
| 07:13.47 | _abc_ | dominiks: |
| 07:13.48 | glick | terminal |
| 07:13.54 | jetscreamer | exd: i saw you say |
| 07:13.58 | glick | yeah i know jetscreamer |
| 07:14.03 | jetscreamer | o |
| 07:14.03 | Pulpie | glick: hmm i gues i haven't used kate that recently... |
| 07:14.15 | jetscreamer | i like gedit |
| 07:14.22 | glick | Pulpie: yeah its pretty sweet |
| 07:14.25 | Pulpie | i hate running kde apps, why install the whole kde base for a damn app |
| 07:14.31 | kanisterschleife | hm? |
| 07:14.31 | glick | sighs |
| 07:14.41 | Pulpie | kde libs not base* |
| 07:14.41 | glick | gotta back up all my crap again and re install another distro |
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| 07:14.55 | amitz | what's so special with ssh tunneling (of VNC for example) that makes it doesn't work in cofiguration of /etc/hosts.allow: ALL:192.168.0.1/24 ; /etc/hosts.deny: ALL:ALL; |
| 07:14.58 | dominiks | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/index.en.html is in EN but all sublinks are in FR |
| 07:14.59 | Pulpie | glick: do you do a lot of cli work? |
| 07:15.10 | glick | yeah Pulpie enough |
| 07:15.20 | glick | but i like a nice gui |
| 07:15.27 | stew | dominiks: please file a bug against the www.debian.org pseudo-package |
| 07:15.35 | dominiks | stew: ok |
| 07:15.41 | Pulpie | glick: check out joe for your editor, i enjoy it compared to anything" |
| 07:15.43 | lxsameer | _abc_: i get powertop , |
| 07:15.55 | jetscreamer | isn't deny > allow ? |
| 07:16.03 | glick | oh yeah, ive used joe |
| 07:16.08 | _coredump_ | moinsen |
| 07:16.08 | _abc_ | i have to go, take care |
| 07:16.10 | glick | joes aight |
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| 07:16.25 | jetscreamer | edit.exe |
| 07:16.27 | Pulpie | glick: what do you prefer? |
| 07:16.39 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: will you stop saying windows program names? |
| 07:16.52 | jetscreamer | what was the other one i said |
| 07:17.17 | jetscreamer | when was it >1 |
| 07:17.23 | amitz | jetscreamer: man said, first check if allow exist, then for others check if it's must be denied, if not mentioned then allow it. |
| 07:17.41 | amitz | anyway, ssh works, but ssh tunneling doesn't work |
| 07:17.48 | glick | Pulpie: i like vim |
| 07:17.56 | glick | Pulpie: and kate |
| 07:18.01 | Pulpie | glick: i prefer vi over vim |
| 07:18.05 | glick | gvim is nice too |
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| 07:18.12 | Pulpie | wow wtf |
| 07:18.23 | Pulpie | the ati oneliner delete gdm and didn't put it back |
| 07:18.27 | Pulpie | wtf is wrong with this? |
| 07:18.43 | jetscreamer | -_- |
| 07:18.51 | amitz | tunneling basically connect to itself, open a new port, then run ssh on that new port. |
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| 07:19.12 | glick | heh Pulpie im not that masochistic |
| 07:19.14 | jetscreamer | amitz: maybe ask in #networking also, beyond me |
| 07:19.26 | amitz | I suspect I must explicitly allow connection from localhost to localhost. But can it be done with LOCAL:LOCAL? |
| 07:19.28 | amitz | oh, okay |
| 07:19.45 | Pulpie | amitz: whats your problem, im sorry i missed it and want to help? |
| 07:19.59 | jetscreamer | /lastlog amitz |
| 07:20.36 | Pulpie | jetscreamer: that will fill up the screen and prevent me from conintuing other conversations |
| 07:20.42 | TheSarge | I dont get this, my other hard drives show up in thunar, but not in fstab? |
| 07:20.44 | wsxws | hi there. im running debian lenny on a webserver. everything runs fine except of kinda hicup opn the networkconnection. when i have havy traffic the connection gets lost for a few secs and comes back. http://nopaste.org/p/a1L0dZrFz i alread tried different optins in menu.lst like noapc and noapictimer, which didnt help and nolapic makes the server unreachable. any suggestions ? |
| 07:20.54 | jetscreamer | he didn't type all that much |
| 07:20.57 | stew | Pulpie: /lastlog -clear |
| 07:21.10 | jetscreamer | [02.14.57] <amitz> what's so special with ssh tunneling (of VNC for example) that makes it doesn't work in cofiguration of /etc/hosts.allow: ALL:192.168.0.1/24 ; /etc/hosts.deny: ALL:ALL; |
| 07:21.43 | TheSarge | stew, why do my hard drives show up in thunar, but are not listen in fstab? |
| 07:21.44 | Pulpie | wsxws: is this a home server? |
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| 07:21.56 | Killabeez | how can I install the psg command? |
| 07:22.00 | TheSarge | listed |
| 07:22.03 | glick | Pulpie: you use gnome |
| 07:22.03 | amitz | I'm doing the tunneling within LAN whose address is 192.168.0.1/24 |
| 07:22.06 | glick | ? |
| 07:22.17 | Pulpie | glick: i use to when i have a linux box but mine just died |
| 07:22.17 | wsxws | Pulpie nope, the server is located at a hostingcompany |
| 07:22.21 | jetscreamer | autodetection, 'manual' mounting that is automated |
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| 07:22.33 | stew | TheSarge: ok? |
| 07:22.42 | glick | oh, bummer |
| 07:22.50 | glick | hard drive died? |
| 07:22.55 | Pulpie | wsxws: hmm is it a VPS? |
| 07:22.58 | jetscreamer | what is psg |
| 07:23.02 | J-_ | Nice. Internet working now. Had to install wicd though. Just for an easy-out. |
| 07:23.02 | TheSarge | stew, Well i want to add the user option and the auto option, but they are not even n fstab? |
| 07:23.15 | wsxws | Pulpie nope ist a dedicated machine |
| 07:23.26 | jetscreamer | edit fstab and put the directives in? |
| 07:23.38 | Killabeez | its a process viewing command we have on some servers at work |
| 07:23.41 | TheSarge | The drives arent there |
| 07:23.44 | Pulpie | wsxws: perhaps the NIC is just dying? |
| 07:23.46 | Killabeez | but I cant find anything on google about installing it |
| 07:23.53 | Pulpie | wsxws: it doesn't seem logical for this to happen |
| 07:23.54 | TheSarge | They arent listen in fstab |
| 07:23.56 | jetscreamer | but put them in |
| 07:24.11 | jetscreamer | make/create them |
| 07:24.16 | TheSarge | why arent they there already? |
| 07:24.25 | barnum | sounds like an alias for an existing command with some arguments |
| 07:24.26 | jetscreamer | probably ntfs but i'm guessing |
| 07:24.27 | stew | Killabeez: is it possible that psg is actually just an alias to some ps command with some specific set of options? |
| 07:24.30 | amitz | yes, I have confirmed that the setting above doesn't allow "ssh localhost". To make things simpler, how to allow "ssh localhost"? what to put in /etc/hosts.allow? Putting LOCAL:LOCAL doesn't work |
| 07:24.31 | J-_ | Next time I reinstall debian, I'll remember to actually put my wireless firmware onto external media so I can install when installing Debian. firmware-iwl or whatever didn't want to work for me. |
| 07:24.34 | barnum | try alias |grep psg |
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| 07:25.00 | stew | or "type psg" |
| 07:25.18 | jetscreamer | apt-file or apt-cache |
| 07:25.25 | jetscreamer | to find psg |
| 07:25.27 | Killabeez | stew yes i think you are right |
| 07:25.51 | stew | Killabeez: try "type psg" |
| 07:25.55 | exd | Stopping VirtualBox kernel module:Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory |
| 07:26.26 | jetscreamer | so TheSarge are these ntfs drives/partitions? |
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| 07:27.03 | Killabeez | stew yes you were right it is a alias - alias psg='ps -el|grep \!*|grep -v grep' |
| 07:27.30 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 07:27.35 | Killabeez | so im guessing do a alias psg= |
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| 07:29.39 | TheSarge | jetscreamer, Yes |
| 07:29.46 | TheSarge | Well one of them |
| 07:30.11 | jetscreamer | and the other one is.... (ones are...) |
| 07:30.16 | glick | forensic files teaches you how to get away with murder |
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| 07:30.55 | jetscreamer | glick: just common sense... |
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| 07:31.08 | superjoe | so, um, am I supposed to manually add .conf to all my /etc/modprobe.d/ files? |
| 07:31.13 | superjoe | I've been doing that when it complains about them |
| 07:31.14 | glick | not common sense at all jetscreamer |
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| 07:31.40 | jetscreamer | was doing the dry humor thing, but maybe not so well... |
| 07:32.41 | TheSarge | jetscreamer, actually no fat32 i thought it was ntfs |
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| 07:33.13 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: just add appropriate lines in fstab, use xvmount or whatever... i find chowning the mount points helpful, not sure if you have to... the installer doesn't create fstab lines for ms fs's afaik |
| 07:33.32 | wsxws | sorry phone |
| 07:33.40 | jetscreamer | examples (take with grain of salt, back up anything before editing) |
| 07:33.51 | jetscreamer | http://linux.hfds.com/files/fstab |
| 07:33.52 | Pulpie | which is what joe does |
| 07:34.05 | wsxws | Pulpie it isnt logical to me neither, thats why i am here |
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| 07:34.09 | jetscreamer | google for better examples |
| 07:34.12 | jetscreamer | man fstab |
| 07:34.20 | jetscreamer | it has some iirc |
| 07:34.32 | Pulpie | TheSarge: if you reboot do you come back online? |
| 07:34.40 | Pulpie | TheSarge: your drive shouldn't mount without fstab |
| 07:34.57 | jetscreamer | thunar automount thing |
| 07:35.00 | jetscreamer | or so |
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| 07:35.08 | jetscreamer | mounting thing |
| 07:35.32 | Pulpie | thunar shouldn't run at boot |
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| 07:36.03 | Pulpie | if he has no /etc/fstab then nothing should boot and he should get a major error |
| 07:36.05 | jetscreamer | i don't know that he said it does... wasn't paying attention/here |
| 07:36.10 | jetscreamer | he found it |
| 07:36.16 | jetscreamer | he moved it into /bin somehow |
| 07:36.18 | Pulpie | in /bin |
| 07:36.23 | Pulpie | but it wont be found there |
| 07:36.30 | jetscreamer | he said he moved it back |
| 07:36.45 | jetscreamer | i think |
| 07:36.50 | Pulpie | TheSarge: reboot. |
| 07:37.41 | Killabeez | another question, how do I take a screen shot? |
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| 07:38.27 | wsxws | Pulpie so you dont have any clue what could cause this neither ? |
| 07:39.07 | Dewi | what could cause all my fans and disks to turn off but my LEDs to all stay on as if the machine was still running? |
| 07:39.08 | jetscreamer | alt print screen |
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| 07:39.14 | stew | Killabeez: /msg dpkg screenshot |
| 07:39.22 | Dewi | I wonder if I have a power problem |
| 07:39.23 | jetscreamer | and/or just printscreen... what stew said |
| 07:39.29 | Pulpie | wsxws: sorry. |
| 07:39.31 | Dewi | but how do I tell if my power supply is maxed? |
| 07:39.36 | jetscreamer | Dewi: suspend? |
| 07:40.03 | Dewi | jetscreamer: the keyboard is non-responsive... |
| 07:40.11 | Dewi | jetscreamer: it happens when I do heavy disk I/O |
| 07:40.28 | amitz | how to makes debian lenny use the recently edited /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny |
| 07:40.29 | Pulpie | Dewi: sounds like the hdd is getting bad |
| 07:40.36 | Pulpie | amitz: save the file |
| 07:40.42 | Dewi | Pulpie: shouldn't really kill the whole system |
| 07:40.52 | Pulpie | Dewi: why wouldn't it |
| 07:41.06 | Dewi | Pulpie: because this isn't windows? |
| 07:41.07 | Pulpie | Dewi: if the barrings stop spinning the whole drive stops. |
| 07:41.07 | wsxws | i really start to love that server. first the cpu froze and the cooling beacme renewed. then the second hdd disappeared and the hdd-cable became replaced and now the networkadapter refuses to take hard traffic *sigh* |
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| 07:41.14 | Pulpie | Dewi: lol that doesn't matter. |
| 07:41.16 | jetscreamer | a power supply going bad can be hard to detect if you're not really looking |
| 07:41.41 | Dewi | Pulpie: why would that bring my whole system down? |
| 07:41.42 | jetscreamer | and you would get kernel msg's about the hd and how it's trying to reinit it if it was going bad like that... or so it was with me |
| 07:41.44 | Pulpie | Dewi: if it was your power supply the leds would turn off |
| 07:41.51 | Dewi | Pulpie: linux really doesn't fail just because of a bad disk |
| 07:42.03 | wsxws | amitz /etc/init.d/networking reastart |
| 07:42.05 | Pulpie | Dewi: you would get gpu errors |
| 07:42.13 | Dewi | ... GPU errors? |
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| 07:42.28 | amitz | wsxws: ah, i see. |
| 07:42.29 | Pulpie | Dewi: because the video card needs to talk to the hard drive to use the driver files |
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| 07:42.33 | wsxws | restart even |
| 07:42.37 | Dewi | Pulpie: err |
| 07:42.40 | Pulpie | Dewi: so the screen will shut off. |
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| 07:42.56 | Dewi | Pulpie: you are waaay off the mark |
| 07:42.56 | Pulpie | Dewi: it will seem like the system is unresponsive but you cant honestly tell |
| 07:43.09 | Killabeez | stew, thanks |
| 07:43.12 | Pulpie | Dewi: not really. |
| 07:43.33 | Pulpie | Dewi: im just suggesting it seems like a bad hard drive |
| 07:43.36 | Dewi | Pulpie: so what, you reckon parts of the basic display hardware are swapped out of main RAM or something? |
| 07:43.39 | amitz | Dewi: well, if you have the tool, you can measure the output and check whether it stucks to a certain wattage.. |
| 07:43.39 | Pulpie | Dewi: try switching it out |
| 07:44.20 | jetscreamer | i've had an addin usb card freeze my system |
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| 07:44.32 | Pulpie | amitz: om-metter |
| 07:45.14 | Pulpie | amitz: which aren't recommended to be used on active computers |
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| 07:46.35 | amitz | Pulpie: oh, I never knew that :-p |
| 07:46.46 | glick | does debian support nvidia |
| 07:46.56 | Pulpie | glick: yes |
| 07:47.23 | Pulpie | glick: well, yes it has drivers for nvidia |
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| 07:50.08 | wsxws | Pulpie i hope you dont mind if i wait for another helper to aks again ? |
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| 07:58.46 | exd | guys please help me !! Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. |
| 07:58.58 | jetscreamer | !linux-headers |
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| 07:59.26 | jetscreamer | or aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 08:00.20 | jetscreamer | !b-e |
| 08:00.21 | dpkg | somebody said build-essential was a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>. |
| 08:00.40 | exd | jetscreamer: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-headers-2.6.29.1-xxxx-std-ipv4-32" |
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| 08:00.57 | jetscreamer | what kernel is that |
| 08:01.19 | exd | 2.6.29.1-xxxx-std-ipv4-32 |
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| 08:01.28 | jetscreamer | where did you get it i mean |
| 08:01.40 | exd | kernel.org |
| 08:01.56 | jetscreamer | you'll need to build the headers then if you compiled it |
| 08:02.11 | jetscreamer | make-kpkg --kernel-headers or so.. i forget |
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| 08:02.37 | jetscreamer | do you still have the source in /usr/src? if so it's already there no need to compile |
| 08:02.51 | exd | ya |
| 08:02.56 | jetscreamer | the source that you compiled i mean |
| 08:03.01 | jetscreamer | post-compile |
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| 08:03.20 | exd | :/usr/src/linux-2.6.29.1 |
| 08:03.30 | jetscreamer | did you use make-kpkg or the old school method |
| 08:03.40 | jetscreamer | well what i call old school |
| 08:04.08 | jetscreamer | to compile the kernel, i mean |
| 08:04.10 | kanister` | Is there a tool for sending single ethernet frames? |
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| 08:04.28 | wsxws | im running debian lenny on a webserver. everything runs fine except of kinda hicup opn the networkconnection. when i have havy traffic the connection gets lost for a few secs and comes back. http://nopaste.org/p/a1L0dZrFz i alread tried different optins in menu.lst like noapc and noapictimer, which didnt help and nolapic makes the server unreachable. any suggestions ? |
| 08:04.31 | exd | jetscreamer: http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=239 i did that like that url said |
| 08:04.44 | wsxws | jetscreamer do you maybe hav a clue what could be wrong there ? |
| 08:04.47 | jetscreamer | you could ask in #networking at the same time, kanister` .. i dont know personally |
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| 08:05.18 | jetscreamer | no i'm not network type, wsxws :/ |
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| 08:05.32 | kanister` | jetscreamer: oh, thank you! looked in #network, not #networking |
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| 08:06.17 | wsxws | okies, ill try in networking also |
| 08:06.39 | jetscreamer | wsxws: is this a home server or in a datacenter |
| 08:06.45 | wsxws | datacenter |
| 08:07.10 | jetscreamer | doesn't even speculate then |
| 08:07.31 | wsxws | if it was here id already had thrown it out of the window ;) |
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| 08:08.05 | jetscreamer | doesn't speculate about a bad nic either |
| 08:09.55 | nsadmin | you're gonna throw a data center out the window?! |
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| 08:11.05 | jetscreamer | big window |
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| 08:11.09 | wsxws | nsadmin i said 'if it was here' |
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| 08:13.09 | wsxws | first this server froze time by time and the fixed the cpu-cooling. the sdb dsappeared and they replaced the stat-wire and now it sems the board itself could be faulty |
| 08:13.09 | exd | how can i build kernel modules for vbox? |
| 08:13.29 | jetscreamer | !m-a |
| 08:13.29 | dpkg | well, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install .deb packages with them, or "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare" http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant |
| 08:13.30 | jetscreamer | maybe |
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| 08:14.28 | jetscreamer | dedicated server? |
| 08:14.36 | jetscreamer | your box their pipe? |
| 08:14.55 | jetscreamer | gah |
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| 08:15.14 | exd | mine yes dedicated |
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| 08:15.21 | jetscreamer | likes warranties |
| 08:15.30 | stargazer84 | hello everyone |
| 08:15.43 | stargazer84 | I need some help with shell scripts |
| 08:16.10 | exd | Recompiling VirtualBox kernel module: |
| 08:16.11 | exd | * Look at /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out what went wrong |
| 08:16.34 | simonrvn | so did you? |
| 08:16.41 | exd | Makefile:143: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again. Stop. |
| 08:16.42 | stargazer84 | I need a shell script to run a mysql query and i also need the query to include the hostname of the computer that made the query |
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| 08:17.11 | simonrvn | exd: so do so; aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 08:17.16 | rbo_ | hi! how to fix it? dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file; E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 08:17.16 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 08:17.19 | jetscreamer | been there |
| 08:17.25 | stargazer84 | how do i pass the output of the hostname command in a script? |
| 08:17.35 | simonrvn | i know. seems he doesn't get it... |
| 08:17.46 | jetscreamer | no he compiled it himself |
| 08:18.15 | jetscreamer | [03.00.41] <exd> jetscreamer: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-headers-2.6.29.1-xxxx-std-ipv4-32" |
| 08:18.22 | simonrvn | then he should point them at the right place, or check his symlinks in /lib/modules/whatever |
| 08:18.46 | exd | i dont know how to point it mates |
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| 08:19.14 | jetscreamer | [03.03.21] <exd> :/usr/src/linux-2.6.29.1 <--/include or whatever |
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| 08:19.41 | jetscreamer | doesn't know the exact |
| 08:19.49 | simonrvn | KERN_DIR=/foo/bar/baz make |
| 08:19.58 | jetscreamer | KERN_DIR=<directory> |
| 08:20.12 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 08:20.16 | exd | im failing when run this command /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup |
| 08:20.16 | jetscreamer | what he said |
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| 08:20.57 | jetscreamer | buddy! eth01 !!! |
| 08:21.02 | jetscreamer | how ya been! :) |
| 08:21.15 | eth01 | lol, hi |
| 08:21.17 | eth01 | :) |
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| 08:22.51 | exd | Stopping VirtualBox kernel module:Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory |
| 08:22.52 | eth01 | nice day, isn't it? |
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| 08:23.17 | jetscreamer | so did you /join #virtualbox, or #vbox rather, exd? |
| 08:23.44 | jetscreamer | it was beautiful, but it's 3.30am here |
| 08:23.57 | exd | yes i am but looks like dead channel |
| 08:24.07 | eth01 | well, it is. |
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| 08:25.57 | exd | im trying to make this work from 2 days still failing |
| 08:26.23 | jetscreamer | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux%20build%20instructions <--? |
| 08:27.09 | jetscreamer | ah sun |
| 08:27.21 | exd | i couldnt understand this source ./env.sh |
| 08:28.04 | simonrvn | yes, sun |
| 08:28.08 | jetscreamer | i think you type it |
| 08:28.20 | jetscreamer | beyond me |
| 08:28.36 | jetscreamer | i can compile a kernel with make-kpkg and that's about it |
| 08:28.49 | jetscreamer | i did try gnome once |
| 08:28.56 | jetscreamer | that was fun |
| 08:29.55 | jetscreamer | never did get radinat to compile correctly |
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| 08:29.59 | jetscreamer | radiant |
| 08:30.23 | jetscreamer | almost... got the shell going or somehting |
| 08:30.29 | jetscreamer | anyway |
| 08:30.50 | simonrvn | radiant? |
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| 08:30.54 | simonrvn | hey |
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| 08:31.32 | exd | simonrvn: any help for me mate |
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| 08:31.59 | Ium | Debian > /dev/null ? |
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| 08:33.09 | jetscreamer | had to reboot into the gaming os ... linux |
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| 08:39.44 | exd | if i change kernel to lower version will it work? |
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| 08:44.26 | DeSian | any way to set local time to universal time? |
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| 08:45.16 | wsxws | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 08:45.22 | wsxws | do you mean this ? |
| 08:45.51 | chordogg | i am experiencing a strange problem. i'm running lenny with the xfce4 desktop environment installed. when i CTRL+ALT+F1 back to console, and the go back to tty7, my desktop icons disappear, and the panels go blank. has anyone experienced this before? |
| 08:47.14 | DeSian | wsxws: i do that, but i have tow time zone |
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| 08:47.54 | wsxws | <exd> if i change kernel to lower version will it work? <<-- sure it does |
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| 08:48.58 | wsxws | DeSian i guess i dont get your question. a computer has one clock and you can set this clock to a certain timezone. |
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| 08:49.29 | DeSian | wsxws: http://paste.debian.net/32565/plain/32565 |
| 08:50.17 | wsxws | yes, everyxthings fine |
| 08:50.27 | wsxws | the second line is just for info |
| 08:50.37 | wsxws | your machines time is the first line |
| 08:50.40 | DeSian | wsxws: isn't fine, the local time is wrong |
| 08:50.50 | DeSian | the universal time is correct |
| 08:50.58 | wsxws | then set it |
| 08:51.39 | exd | wsxws: any version of kernel you suggest that vbox will run fine? |
| 08:52.06 | wsxws | exd sorry i dont have experiences with vboxes |
| 08:52.19 | DeSian | wsxws: i'm asking before how can i set it? :D |
| 08:52.27 | exd | oh ok mate |
| 08:52.30 | wsxws | i answered before: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 08:53.47 | wsxws | when you do this command a funy little window should apper, there you can chose the continent and the city you live in (or the server is at) |
| 08:53.52 | wsxws | and then the clock will be set |
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| 08:54.23 | wsxws | universal time is the so called greenwich mean time |
| 08:54.46 | wsxws | atm your are at gmt+2 (or gmt +1 + summertime) |
| 08:54.47 | Bladerunner05 | hello I use imapsync to syncing email between 2 server. Is possibile to do the same things with a pop3 syncing ? |
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| 08:56.01 | klaz168 | exd, im using 2.6.26-1-amd64 and vbox works fine |
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| 09:00.31 | Dewi | how do I dd an image to a USB flash disk without clobbering the device node? |
| 09:00.47 | Dewi | of=/dev/sdc turned that into a regular file |
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| 09:01.14 | exd | klaz168: thanks for information mate |
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| 09:01.42 | klaz168 | np |
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| 09:02.26 | exd | klaz168: did you follow any tutes to install or you did it your self? |
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| 09:02.53 | Maior | Dewi: was there a /dev/sdc at the time? |
| 09:02.59 | Dewi | Maior: sure |
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| 09:05.01 | Dewi | Maior: oh... hang on. I think it's disappearing. Hotplug is cleaning it up when it fails |
| 09:05.17 | klaz168 | exd, installed it from their repos, its pretty straightforward, check their download page they have instructions on how to install it on debian i believe |
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| 09:09.50 | mxmx | whre si the crontab located? |
| 09:10.11 | Dewi | mxmx: /etc/crontab |
| 09:10.23 | mxmx | thanbks |
| 09:10.29 | Dewi | mxmx: see 'man crontab' for the various user crontabs too... |
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| 09:16.10 | exd | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4.3) but it is not installable E: Broken packages how can i fix this? |
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| 09:19.36 | Dewi | does anyone know if there's some method of triggering an ISO boot off a USB stick if the BIOS of the machine is expecting the USB stick to act like a floppy/HD, not an ISO? |
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| 09:21.08 | puliszka | nagios experts/ |
| 09:21.10 | puliszka | ? |
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| 09:23.36 | rbo_ | how to fix it? dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file; E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
| 09:25.13 | amitz | how to test my setting from internet? For example how to ssh to myself such that the connection is coming from internet? What's the necessary keyword to google for this? |
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| 09:30.20 | klaz168 | exd, try apt-get update |
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| 09:31.34 | exd | did |
| 09:31.39 | exd | no result |
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| 09:31.58 | J-_ | !xorg |
| 09:31.58 | dpkg | X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <install x> if you are using etch or newer, or <get xorg> if you are using sarge. Ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. http://wiki.x.org/ #xorg @ irc.freenode.net. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.Org_Server and perhaps http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce |
| 09:32.36 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 09:32.36 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 09:43.05 | rbo_ | ffmpeg -formats 2>&1 | grep aac |
| 09:43.09 | rbo_ | oops |
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| 10:02.36 | osfd | is it possible to automatically delete the content of lost+found folder ? |
| 10:03.41 | osfd | because this folder is almost 3Go big on one of my partition...and I'd like to get back this space |
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| 10:05.52 | J-_ | Does 'intel-microcode' work well? |
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| 10:07.42 | J-_ | Also, is the default xorg file stored in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
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| 10:10.55 | J-_ | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=209536&highlight=&sid=4d99487866a9b3e4f2af8582a823a61d I'd like to know how that dude got such a high FPS with that chipset. He has the same chipset as me, and in Ubuntu I've only had my FPS up to 1100. Jaunty has been around 600 FPS. Debian is now up to around 1100 FPS now. But, I'm running a different type of laptop. Should that matter? |
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| 10:36.37 | jelly | J-_: glxgears is STILL not a benchmark. |
| 10:37.08 | redeye | hi, i wish to encrypt my /home partition, so it would be mounted automatically on boot, using keyfile, that situated on SD-card |
| 10:37.23 | redeye | my english may not be good enogh, sorry ) |
| 10:37.39 | exd | hello guys from where i can get a Debian kernel? |
| 10:38.10 | redeye | http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ |
| 10:38.35 | redeye | so, is it possible to do it o_. |
| 10:38.38 | jelly | exd: why do you ask? |
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| 10:40.51 | xoz | wow, kfreebsd kernel is cool |
| 10:42.29 | exd | jelly: i cant made vbox work with my currnt kernel |
| 10:42.45 | osfd | is it possible to automatically delete the content of lost+found folder ? Because this folder is almost 3Go big on one of my partition...and I'd like to get back this space |
| 10:42.53 | OpenTokix | _Pete_: channel = #debian |
| 10:43.23 | jelly | exd: which version of debian are you using? which architecture? |
| 10:43.36 | exd | debian 4 etch |
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| 10:44.31 | jelly | exd: paste the output of "uname -a", please |
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| 10:45.40 | exd | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.54 | jelly | exd: that's not the output of "uname -a" |
| 10:46.34 | exd | jelly: kimsufi.com 2.6.26.1 #1 SMP Mon Apr 6 11:44:20 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:47.11 | jelly | exd: alright. and "dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1"? |
| 10:48.03 | exd | jelly: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 10:48.59 | jelly | exd: are you using virtualbox from Sun, or the free virtualbox-ose packages? |
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| 10:49.29 | exd | virtualbox from Sun |
| 10:49.59 | exd | jelly: virtualbox-2.1_2.1.4-42893_Debian_etch_i386.deb |
| 10:51.15 | redeye | crap, can't find solutions anywhere |
| 10:53.22 | jelly | exd: that's Sun's. I guess using linux-image-2.6-686-etchnhalf and linux-headers-2.6-686-etchnhalf would work. |
| 10:54.31 | jelly | exd: ... providing the rest of your hardware works with a 2.6.24 kernel, of course |
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| 10:55.51 | exd | jelly: im new to this you mean i had to reinstall debian? |
| 10:56.49 | DeSian | UTC is deactive but time in uncorrect, local time wrong, how to set it ? |
| 10:57.04 | jelly | exd: no, install those two packages and reboot with 2.6.24-1-686-etchnhalf kernel |
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| 10:58.39 | exd | im going to try that thanks |
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| 11:02.23 | shambat | where is the file with saved entered commands? |
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| 11:03.12 | exd | jelly : sorry to disturb but im confuced in install those two packages |
| 11:03.27 | petemc | shambat: ~/.bash_history |
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| 11:08.49 | TaffinFoxcroft | would anyone be able to help me with an xfce problem? |
| 11:09.44 | lostson | you wont know until you ask TaffinFoxcroft |
| 11:09.46 | TaffinFoxcroft | its setting my resolution higher than what the screen can go, and there's no different settings in the settings manager |
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| 11:11.06 | TaffinFoxcroft | VirtualBox, btw. |
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| 11:15.10 | devhell_ | guys.. I know this sounds silly, but sempron processors are supported by the 686 line of kernel images right? |
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| 11:21.57 | OpenTokix | devhell_: yes |
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| 11:23.34 | elky | devhell_, some. the early ones do not have full support and hence will not actually run 64bit. i have one in my old laptop that was one of that type |
| 11:24.07 | fbvortex | I'm using the 5.0 amd64 livecd. I need to mount some existing partitions on the hard disk and chroot onto those partitions. Is there a particular directory I should mount or not mount the hard disk partitions to? |
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| 11:24.31 | leOn | fellas, i'm thinking about doing a partial mirror of the official debian repository ... how can i find out how much disk space i'll need for the parts i want to mirror, without preforming a remote du ? |
| 11:24.36 | fbvortex | Particular directory -> particular directory within the live image. |
| 11:25.05 | exd | dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-686-etchnhalf (--configure): |
| 11:25.05 | exd | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.05 | dpkg | exd: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 11:26.02 | fbvortex | e.g. should I just make a directory in /, or mount to an existing directory? as long as I don't mount over /, is there any problem? |
| 11:26.19 | exd | dpkg: http://paste2.org/p/178642 |
| 11:26.19 | dpkg | exd: I give up, what is it? |
| 11:27.31 | Maior | fbvortex: subdirs of /mnt |
| 11:27.39 | exd | as jelly said im trying to install linux-image-2.6-686-etchnhalf and linux-headers-2.6-686-etchnhalf |
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| 11:38.25 | leOn | guys .. could someone tell me how much space i'll needed to have a local mirror from the debian ftp archive containing only the i386 and amd64 archs? |
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| 11:39.05 | chronographer | Hi. now... I have installed LVM but am having troubles where I need to manually run vgchange -y a after startup... why is this? |
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| 11:39.34 | chronographer | sorry "-a y" |
| 11:41.13 | leOn | chronographer: is that lvm using some special set of storage disks? |
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| 11:41.48 | leOn | like using a different hba from what you use for the system |
| 11:41.49 | chronographer | nope it is very simple |
| 11:42.04 | chronographer | one large HDD atm... |
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| 11:43.05 | abrotman | leon: a lot |
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| 11:43.49 | chronographer | what is hba? |
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| 11:44.35 | abrotman | leOn: depends if you want deb-src .. if it will be main/contrib/non-free .. but it's quite a bit for each arch |
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| 11:45.03 | leOn | abrotman: i was thinking about deb-src and also main/contrib/non-free actually |
| 11:45.21 | leOn | well .. perhaps i could do without deb-src ... |
| 11:45.27 | OpenTokix | chronographer: A HBA, or Host Bus Adapter, is the interface card which connects a host to a SAN (Storage Area Network). |
| 11:45.30 | OpenTokix | A HBA could be more accurately referred to as a "Host I/O controller". |
| 11:45.36 | leOn | it would be rarely used actually ... |
| 11:45.57 | abrotman | leOn: considered using an apt-proxy instead? |
| 11:46.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | ledet, to answer the question, try debmirror with --dry-run |
| 11:46.12 | abrotman | !dstats lenny |
| 11:46.27 | abrotman | leOn: and if you want lenny/squeeze/sid .. that's also a lot more |
| 11:46.47 | leOn | abrotman: do you thing that ~600GB would do ..? |
| 11:46.50 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 22972 packages, 1932 maintainers, 58994 MB installed size, 20835 MB compressed size. |
| 11:46.54 | abrotman | leon: http://debian.org/mirrors/size |
| 11:47.11 | abrotman | leon: sure .. but you'd have to sync it all the time? do you ahve bandwidth for that? |
| 11:47.12 | leOn | ah .. thanks =) |
| 11:47.20 | leOn | abrotman: yep |
| 11:47.44 | abrotman | leon: but unless you really need it, the apt proxy is probably a better way to go |
| 11:47.55 | fbvortex | has anyone else had problems with the e1000e driver? I get a bunch of errors in the error stats and also a non-zero "frame" count |
| 11:48.26 | leOn | abrotman: i'll look into that option |
| 11:49.00 | leOn | thanks for the input =) |
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| 11:52.48 | leOn | hmmm.. there's something about the numbers in http://debian.org/mirrors/size |
| 11:53.24 | osfd | is it possible to automatically delete the content of lost+found folder ? Because this folder is almost 3Go big on one of my partition...and I'd like to get back this space |
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| 11:56.09 | OpenTokix | osfd: Stuff only end up in lost+found if you have errors in your fileystem |
| 11:56.14 | OpenTokix | errors in filesystem == bad thing |
| 11:56.43 | osfd | OpenTokix: I kind of new that but still, there's 2 Go there that I'd like to get back |
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| 11:56.49 | osfd | I mean the space |
| 11:56.56 | daniel2 | morning :) |
| 11:57.01 | OpenTokix | osfd: you can just rm -rf inside the folder as root |
| 11:57.22 | OpenTokix | osfd: fsck puts files there when it finds files that dont belong to some descriptor etc. |
| 11:57.47 | leOn | osfd: you'll probably end up losing data |
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| 11:58.06 | leOn | i'd verify that you don't have any important things in there |
| 11:58.17 | osfd | leOn: ok...I'll let that in... |
| 11:58.18 | abrotman | osfd: that's probably ont a good thing to have so much data there |
| 11:59.01 | osfd | abrotman: well that has been there for a while |
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| 11:59.38 | exd | hi http://paste2.org/p/178661 |
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| 11:59.53 | osfd | and to be precise there is a 1.35G file and a 825Mo file... |
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| 12:01.28 | exd | guys please help me i ran apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
| 12:02.11 | osfd | abrotman: OpenTokix leOn : http://pastebin.com/d7587080c |
| 12:02.11 | exd | and getting those errors http://paste2.org/p/178661 |
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| 12:03.05 | abrotman | osfd: they're your files .. i won't know what they are |
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| 12:03.31 | osfd | abrotman: got that point....but I can't rm them... |
| 12:03.43 | leOn | osfd: those #number files and dirs are files that have lost reference in the inode table |
| 12:04.02 | leOn | you'll have to check manually what are they |
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| 12:04.26 | OpenTokix | osfd: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html |
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| 12:07.06 | abrotman | exd: are you using grub? |
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| 12:07.46 | exd | abrotman: i dont know about it mate |
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| 12:08.21 | seniorake | how could one analyze http headers using command line tools..? |
| 12:08.48 | abrotman | exd: dpkg -l *grub* |
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| 12:09.58 | exd | abrotman: http://paste2.org/p/178669 |
| 12:11.10 | Maior | sepult: telnet |
| 12:11.16 | Maior | sepult: sorry, failing at tab completion |
| 12:11.19 | Maior | seniorake: telnet |
| 12:11.32 | sepult | Maior: ?? |
| 12:11.39 | sepult | Maior: what about telnet ? |
| 12:11.41 | redeye | seniorake, may be it is possible to do with some network protocol analyzer |
| 12:11.55 | Maior | seniorake: define "analyze" |
| 12:12.05 | Maior | sepult: 13:11 < Maior> sepult: sorry, failing at tab completion |
| 12:12.05 | sepult | ah ok |
| 12:12.13 | sepult | jup understand |
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| 12:13.21 | seniorake | well, i would like something that "works easy for me", simply to display the headers. for example, wget --save-headers stores the headers into the file. but i would some solution which just displays them on my console. with analyze i mean to see what headers were sent, e.g. content-type, expire, content-length, ...etc |
| 12:13.28 | exd | abortman: as output shown i guess im not using grub? |
| 12:13.35 | redeye | seniorake, for example u can filter it with with ettercap, that has ncurses-based gui |
| 12:13.41 | Maior | seniorake: HEAD (libwww-perl) |
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| 12:14.09 | seniorake | hm..that's way to complex. i was hoping that there is some tool in APT which does exactly what i meant |
| 12:14.17 | abrotman | exd: and you're not using lilo either? |
| 12:14.17 | redeye | seniorake, may be ngrep than? |
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| 12:14.30 | exd | using lilo |
| 12:14.34 | Maior | seniorake: "HEAD" is too complicated? |
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| 12:15.03 | redeye | http://ngrep.sourceforge.net/usage.html |
| 12:15.09 | seniorake | oh, thank you. i thought you refered to a library in libwww-perl |
| 12:15.13 | Maior | seems exactly what you want and trivial to use |
| 12:15.29 | seniorake | telling me to write some program which uses it, but since that is the binary itself..thank you, it works fine |
| 12:16.08 | exd | abrotman: http://paste2.org/p/178671 that my /etc/lilo.conf |
| 12:16.55 | Peanut | Hi everyone. I'm trying to keep a system at 'Etch' but also have the 'Lenny' version of puppet installed. So I have pinned all packages to 'release v=4.0*' prio 1000, and puppet I've pinned to 'release a=stable' prio 1001. Which works, my systems no longer have the burning urge to turn themselves into Lenny - but not they are complaining about key-id 4D270D06F42584E6 when I do an apt-get update. This is the 'debian-archive-keyring'. |
| 12:17.20 | Peanut | So, Q: how to fix? Upgrading to Lenny is not an option yet, waiting for drivers for special purpose hardware. |
| 12:17.20 | redeye | ._. |
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| 12:18.13 | redeye | wish to encrypt my /home partition, so it would be mounted automatically on boot, using keyfile, that situated on SD-card, any ideas? (using a key file is a critical option 4 me) |
| 12:18.18 | redeye | sry for my english btw |
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| 12:20.46 | zepolen | is 2 million files in a single directory on ext3 a bad idea? |
| 12:20.50 | OpenTokix | Peanut: import the key? |
| 12:21.01 | OpenTokix | Peanut: or unpin the keyring-package? |
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| 12:22.04 | Peanut | OpenTokix: I'm trying to do the second now, thanks. I'm managing 16 identical servers through puppet, and the way Debian changes codenames when a new release becomes stable really threw a spanner in the setup :-) |
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| 12:22.26 | OpenTokix | Peanut: ok |
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| 12:22.39 | exd | abrotman: any help? |
| 12:22.43 | Peanut | But then the question becomes.. what other packages do I need to unpin? |
| 12:22.48 | OpenTokix | Peanut: So your "identical" servers plan, wasn't working to good now? |
| 12:23.01 | OpenTokix | Peanut: Just write "Etch" in your list then? |
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| 12:23.45 | Peanut | OpenTopix: unfortunately one cannot pin to 'Etch', I'm now using pinning to v=4.0* |
| 12:24.39 | Peanut | Ah, now my apt-get is happy again |
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| 12:25.23 | OpenTokix | nice =) |
| 12:25.31 | zepolen | am i asking in the wrong channel? |
| 12:25.43 | Peanut | OpenTokix: now my only worry is: what will go wrong next? :-) |
| 12:26.07 | OpenTokix | Peanut: dont use shit from lenny then? |
| 12:26.26 | Peanut | OpenTokix: I'd love to, but the puppet that ships with Etch is still too buggy. |
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| 12:26.54 | OpenTokix | Peanut: ok |
| 12:27.01 | redeye | zepolen, you want to use some FS, that will work better and faster with a lot of small files? |
| 12:27.22 | redeye | reiserfs is a good choice i think |
| 12:27.32 | redeye | but anyway ext3 is good too |
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| 12:27.47 | redeye | so, why do u ask? (: |
| 12:27.51 | zepolen | redeye: no im wondering how ext3 behaves with millions of files in a single directory |
| 12:28.07 | redeye | i'm not sure, but i think it will be ok |
| 12:28.09 | zepolen | ie. are single file lookups slowed down |
| 12:28.15 | redeye | sry for my english |
| 12:28.18 | redeye | btw |
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| 12:28.51 | Eulex | zepolen, I don't believe it even supports that |
| 12:29.10 | zepolen | Eulex: im currently populating a directory, it's up to 300k |
| 12:29.18 | Eulex | oh |
| 12:29.22 | Eulex | then I'm wrong |
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| 12:30.21 | abrotman | exd: been awhile since i used lilo, but for whatever reason, the system thinks you want to use grub .. you can alter the kernel-img.conf and change the hook |
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| 12:31.01 | zepolen | files are large, images, so i dont think reiser's small file advantage will help there |
| 12:31.27 | redeye | reiserfs works good with large files too |
| 12:31.35 | OpenTokix | zepolen: In fact, Lustre is tested with ten million files in a single directory. On a properly-configured dual-CPU MDS with 4 GB RAM, random lookups in such a directory are possible at a rate of 5,000 files / second. |
| 12:31.36 | ranix | unfortunately named fs, that |
| 12:32.39 | Maior | ranix: being dense - why unfortunately named? |
| 12:32.46 | zepolen | OpenTokix: thanks, ill give it a look - is there any ballpark performance data on ext3 that you know of? |
| 12:33.03 | zophy | is reiserfs still being used/supported ? |
| 12:33.14 | ranix | Maior: hans reiser is a tool |
| 12:33.14 | OpenTokix | zepolen: sounds like its just about the same |
| 12:33.31 | OpenTokix | zophy: I wouldnt touch reiser fs with a 10-foot pole now |
| 12:33.38 | redeye | (: |
| 12:33.53 | redeye | just inetersted, why? |
| 12:34.02 | OpenTokix | zepolen: nevermind my paste - i read wrong |
| 12:34.19 | OpenTokix | redeye: since the company behind reiserfs have went backrupt and hans reiser is in prison? |
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| 12:34.39 | redeye | but.. it works, why not :/ |
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| 12:34.54 | OpenTokix | redeye: but who know for how long |
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| 12:35.08 | joltcan | And when it crasches, it craches baaad |
| 12:35.10 | jelly | redeye: it doesn't really work that well either |
| 12:35.21 | redeye | oh |
| 12:35.38 | joltcan | I would go for jfs or xfs. Or just plain ext3 |
| 12:35.58 | redeye | i always use ext3 anyway |
| 12:36.01 | redeye | (: |
| 12:36.21 | ranix | might have some different circumstances to think about when you have several million large files |
| 12:36.40 | ranix | that's when it's time to look at pros and cons of filesystems |
| 12:36.41 | abrotman | unless you know better, ext3 is a decent choice |
| 12:36.41 | zepolen | ive got a couple million ~100kb files |
| 12:37.01 | redeye | me too, my icq logs... |
| 12:37.08 | zepolen | that will be read/served about 200 times a seconds |
| 12:37.15 | zepolen | randomly |
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| 12:37.35 | zepolen | and written about 20 a second |
| 12:37.42 | AcTiVaTe | From 2007 but might be a nice read, http://wiki.novell.com/index.php/File_System_Primer |
| 12:38.29 | zepolen | and...i just ran out of hard disk, final count 533,030 files |
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| 12:41.26 | joltcan | redeye: :) |
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| 12:43.14 | joltcan | zepolen: I think you should have a look at xfs or ext4. Testing it yourself to get real-world measurements of which one is faster |
| 12:43.36 | wsxws | hi all |
| 12:43.53 | zepolen | joltcan: i dont care about the fastest - im happy with ext3 as long as it's up to my current workload |
| 12:44.22 | wsxws | i installed a networkcarddriver as a module. lsmod is showing the driver. but when i reboot its gone again, how to make the mache use it at boot ? |
| 12:44.22 | zepolen | i guess only trying it in production is the only way to learn that |
| 12:44.34 | zepolen | thanks for the input guys |
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| 12:45.47 | wsxws | i installed a networkcarddriver as a module. lsmod is showing the driver. but when i reboot its gone again, how to make the machine use it at boot ? |
| 12:47.30 | abrotman | wsxws: put it in /etc/modules |
| 12:47.33 | redeye | add it to /etc/modules |
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| 12:49.52 | OpenTokix | add it in /etc/modules |
| 12:50.02 | OpenTokix | =) |
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| 12:50.40 | redeye | :DDD |
| 12:51.15 | wsxws | what would be the syntax in there ? |
| 12:51.27 | mk_mike | hey i'm having an issue when i login to ssh on my vps, it logins in and the connection closes stright away, any ideas what would cause this? |
| 12:51.53 | wsxws | if i can add it by hand using modprobe r8168 the entry in /etc/modules would just be r8168 ? |
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| 12:52.29 | abrotman | mk_mike: about a million things .. try a verbose ssh connection |
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| 12:52.45 | redeye | wsxws, yep |
| 12:52.53 | wsxws | thanks guys :) |
| 12:53.06 | mk_mike | abrotman: ok shall do :P |
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| 12:53.43 | zepolen | heh well this wont do |
| 12:53.54 | zepolen | on 500k files it takes 2 seconds to rm a file |
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| 12:54.51 | zepolen | ah but that is with a * mask |
| 12:54.58 | zepolen | it's actually quick on a single file |
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| 12:56.44 | mk_mike | abrotman: output http://pastebin.com/m598df3a9 |
| 12:57.21 | dob1 | hi, what is this problem when i try to connect to ssh ? "-bash: relocation error: -bash: symbol _errno_location, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference" i can't login |
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| 12:58.03 | abrotman | mk_mike: maybe try executing a command instead of your shell .. |
| 12:58.11 | dob1 | i get the messages "Linux etc etc" You have Mail , Last Login etc etc but when i start the shell i get this |
| 12:58.23 | abrotman | or execute a different shell |
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| 12:59.09 | omid8bimo | hey guys. i wanna compile something. it ask for pgf77? |
| 12:59.17 | mk_mike | abrotman: i usualy use putty on windows, that was me on my ubuntu box tring to login, i dont think its console related. |
| 12:59.21 | omid8bimo | what is it? i can't find it in deb rep |
| 12:59.44 | abrotman | mk_mike: and what's the server running? |
| 13:00.01 | mk_mike | abrotmen: debain vps, US |
| 13:00.21 | abrotman | mk_mike: i was saying to try to execute a different shell than your normal one when you ssh in |
| 13:00.34 | dob1 | abrotman: do you know something about this problem? |
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| 13:00.53 | abrotman | dob1: looks like you've been mixing distros or versions of debian |
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| 13:01.36 | abrotman | mk_mike: like ssh foo@host /bin/csh |
| 13:01.40 | dob1 | abrotman: i have ony stable source on my source.list, this happen after the upgrade to lenny |
| 13:01.54 | abrotman | dob1: sounds like your upgrade isn't all the way finished |
| 13:02.07 | wsxws | okies, now the drivermodule is loaded after reboot, but how to check which driver is used by the networkcard ? |
| 13:02.17 | Sebboh | Hi. In lvm2, how can I activate a logical volume? `vgs` lists one of them as inactive. |
| 13:02.30 | mk_mike | abrotman: ok i'll try |
| 13:02.51 | dob1 | abrotman: how to check? |
| 13:02.55 | wsxws | you dint need to activate, they diretly work |
| 13:03.27 | abrotman | dob1: you have no way to login ? |
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| 13:03.37 | abrotman | grr |
| 13:03.39 | abrotman | dob1: you have no way to login ? |
| 13:03.39 | dob1__ | abrotman: i try no |
| 13:03.44 | abrotman | try no? |
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| 13:04.49 | jelly | w |
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| 13:05.06 | dob1 | abrotman, no i can't i have to rebook |
| 13:05.29 | dob1 | *reboot |
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| 13:08.49 | mk_mike | abrotman: it closed just after i entered my password |
| 13:08.59 | abrotman | no matter what command oyu enter? |
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| 13:09.13 | dob1 | abrotman, now i am on that pc, after the rebook (or to be clear i could not rebot i have to cut power to restart) |
| 13:09.32 | dob1 | now i can login, but what can i check to see what is the problem and to not happen again? |
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| 13:10.24 | dob1 | abrotman, why now i can login? if it is some imcompabile package |
| 13:10.36 | abrotman | !it |
| 13:10.37 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:10.45 | Sebboh | wsxws, directly work, huh? Gee, that's great. I'm glad random USB hard drives I plug into my system 'directly work'. Thanks! |
| 13:10.47 | abrotman | dob1: you can't login at all? still/ |
| 13:10.52 | mk_mike | abrotman: i used "ssh mkdev.co.uk /bin/csh" |
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| 13:11.05 | dob1 | abrotman, after the start of the pc i am logged to it |
| 13:11.10 | dob1 | *restart |
| 13:11.13 | omid8bimo | guys which package contains pgf77? |
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| 13:11.37 | abrotman | mk_mike: and you have no other way to access it? |
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| 13:11.52 | mk_mike | webmin, command line |
| 13:11.58 | mk_mike | thats about it |
| 13:12.32 | dob1 | abrotman, i read that it is the bash that has some problem and can cause it.. but it is the stable from debian, how can it be incompatible? |
| 13:12.42 | abrotman | dob1: is it still having a problem? |
| 13:12.45 | petemc | !tell omid8bimo aboiut search |
| 13:13.00 | petemc | !tell omid8bimo about search |
| 13:13.02 | dob1 | abrotman, no now is ok, but this was the second time that happened in a month |
| 13:13.45 | dob1 | i am pretty sure that it is the upgrade to lenny |
| 13:14.07 | abrotman | mk_mike: and the command line is shot right? |
| 13:14.17 | omid8bimo | petemc: i did search and couldn't find anything |
| 13:14.32 | petemc | omid8bimo: read what you're told |
| 13:15.01 | mk_mike | abrotman: i can access the command line through webmin but its text based so i can run anything which will ask questions |
| 13:15.17 | stew | omid8bimo: how did you search? |
| 13:15.20 | mk_mike | can't* |
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| 13:15.40 | rhineheart_m | hello.. proxmox is based on debian.. anybody here who have an experience? |
| 13:15.47 | abrotman | mk_mike: anything funny in your profile or bash_profile ? |
| 13:15.57 | omid8bimo | stew: aptitude search pgf77 and apt-cache search pgf77 and also through debian package website |
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| 13:16.28 | mk_mike | abrotman: nope, i tried other users anyway |
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| 13:16.40 | abrotman | mk_mike: there is a system-wide profile |
| 13:16.42 | stew | omid8bimo: "/msg dpkg apt-file" ; also, the package website would return the right if you searched in package contents |
| 13:16.50 | dob1 | abrotman, where can i ask some information about this? |
| 13:16.57 | mk_mike | abrotman: ok where would i find this? |
| 13:17.32 | omid8bimo | stew: i did search package content.. i know that |
| 13:17.41 | omid8bimo | stew: let me try this msg |
| 13:18.09 | omid8bimo | bot says i dunno |
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| 13:18.12 | omid8bimo | :D |
| 13:18.24 | stew | dpkg: tell omid8bimo about apt-file |
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| 13:19.24 | stew | omid8bimo: oh, perhaps it doesn't exist in any package, then |
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| 13:20.54 | abrotman | mk_mike: in /etc/ |
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| 13:22.12 | Sebboh | I just plugged in a USB hard drive with LVM volumes on it.. then I did pvscan, then vgscan, then lvscan. (I'm just guessing here.) The output of lvscan shows an inactive volume.. I want to mount it. What do I do? |
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| 13:23.32 | petemc | Sebboh: vgchange 0ay |
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| 13:23.38 | petemc | vgchange -ay , even |
| 13:23.39 | stew | Sebboh: "vgchange -a y" to make it active, then the lf should show up in /dev/mapper |
| 13:24.48 | Sebboh | thanks petemc and stew. |
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| 13:25.29 | davut | Hi, I wanna install djbdns on debian lenny but I get errors from daemontools-run |
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| 13:28.21 | vieq | hello, I have a question, why would I run Debian with FreeBSD's Kernel? |
| 13:28.28 | wsxws | hm |
| 13:28.38 | mk_mike | abrotman:http://pastebin.com/m4a0e66d2 |
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| 13:29.21 | abrotman | seems fine |
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| 13:29.38 | simonrvn | vieq: to run debian gnu/kfreebsd ;) |
| 13:30.12 | vieq | yes, what are the advantages of it? |
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| 13:31.40 | wsxws | is there a way to compile a networkdriver directly into a new kernel ? |
| 13:31.41 | stew | vieq: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 13:32.23 | stew | wsxws: you can if you recompile the entire kernel |
| 13:32.26 | vieq | stew, with no "I have a question" |
| 13:32.39 | Pulpie | wsxws: yeah just recompile it. |
| 13:32.55 | vieq | what would I get from running GNU/KFreeBSD ?? |
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| 13:33.56 | stew | vieq: you would get a freebsd kernel. if you don' tknow why you would want one, you probably don't want one |
| 13:34.16 | vieq | if you have a URL you could direct me to read about it more....that would be just fine |
| 13:34.38 | mk_mike | abrotman: any other ideas, i really need ssh access :S |
| 13:34.39 | wsxws | Pulpie ähm, i have a driver for a networkcard, ho to put in into the kernel directly |
| 13:34.42 | wsxws | ? |
| 13:34.45 | vieq | stew, good call, thank you for your time |
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| 13:35.27 | Pulpie | wsxws: vi /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC |
| 13:35.59 | Pulpie | wsxws: add the driver option for it |
| 13:37.57 | [4-tea-2] | What's the preferred logging daemon for lenny again? (for unknown reasons, after upgrading a vserver guest system from etch to lenny, klogd refuses to start...) |
| 13:38.22 | wsxws | i dont have a path like this |
| 13:38.36 | module000 | [4-tea-2]: that's odd. what is it's error msg? |
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| 13:38.47 | Pulpie | wsxws: read the handbook |
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| 13:39.19 | stew | Pulpie: which handbook? what is /usr/src/sys? |
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| 13:40.04 | [4-tea-2] | module000: no message, it just hangs at the "starting" message. |
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| 13:40.28 | Pulpie | stew: the /usr/doc/books/handbook/ |
| 13:40.40 | stew | Pulpie: /usr/doc shouldn't exist anymore |
| 13:40.43 | [4-tea-2] | module000: it's set up for remote logging and the loghost is reachable. No idea why it would hang. |
| 13:41.02 | Pulpie | stew: ... yes it should |
| 13:41.19 | stew | Pulpie: we started moving things out of /usr/doc like 8 years ago, and that transition finally finished before etch |
| 13:41.33 | [4-tea-2] | module000: could be some resource shortage on the vserver guest, but since I can't find any obvious problems, I'd like to try a different daemon. |
| 13:41.41 | Pulpie | stew: oh fuck this isn't #freebsd. |
| 13:42.09 | Pulpie | sorry i got this confused with a different os channel |
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| 13:42.51 | stew | ahh |
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| 13:43.33 | wsxws | Pulpie maybe its possible to explain it in a little shorter way. i have a path with the linux-source. i made a link to it pointin to /usr/source/linux .what to do next to get the driver compiled with the kernel ? |
| 13:43.53 | Pulpie | wsxws: i have no clue about the linux kernel, that thing sucks ass. |
| 13:44.08 | module000 | [4-tea-2]: don't have any advice for switching to a new daemon. i would troubleshoot your existing setup |
| 13:44.27 | stew | wsxws: is driver is included in the kernel? or is a third party driver from a separate tarball? |
| 13:44.27 | module000 | [4-tea-2]: examine the remote logs as well |
| 13:44.43 | stew | wsxws: you are discouraged, btw, from creating a /usr/src/linux symlink |
| 13:45.03 | wsxws | steve tarbal, i already compiled it, i just need to integrade it into a fresh kernel |
| 13:45.37 | stew | wsxws: is the driver available as a debian package? |
| 13:45.57 | wsxws | the prblem ist that the one included in the kernel ist buggy |
| 13:46.08 | wsxws | i need the newest one from the manufactures hp |
| 13:46.47 | abrotman | mk_mike: did you check /etc/profile ? |
| 13:46.58 | stew | wsxws: i dunno, then i'd recommend looking at the README and/or INSTALL that comes with it |
| 13:47.15 | [4-tea-2] | module000: there are messages from sshd, "error writing /proc/self/oom_adj: Permission denied", but I can't see any reason why the oom killer should do anything, the machine hasn't started swapping. |
| 13:47.45 | stew | wsxws: if you installed the kernel from a debian package, you should be able to compile it as a module against this kernel if you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed |
| 13:48.12 | wsxws | stew its a relay weir thing, but its a webserver at a datacenter and the deliver the distribution with module-support and with a wrong !! networkdriver |
| 13:48.21 | [4-tea-2] | module000: no messages from klogd, though, not even the usual startup message. |
| 13:49.01 | mk_mike | abrotman: yup - output = http://pastebin.com/m391a84ea |
| 13:49.43 | wsxws | stew this leads to kinda hicups in networkconection. the inbuild driver is r8169 and the device itself is a r8168 |
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| 13:50.04 | jelly | wsxws: that's very likely the correct driver. |
| 13:50.43 | stew | (/me says 'eww, a realtek card in a datacenter?') |
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| 13:51.50 | simonrvn | ugh |
| 13:51.53 | wsxws | the datacenter itself send me the link to another driver to fox the hicup problem |
| 13:52.08 | wsxws | cool, isnt it ? |
| 13:52.57 | stew | wsxws: are they the ones that installed the os? perhaps they should be the ones to fix it |
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| 13:53.13 | stew | (or, preferably, to drop an intel card in the box for you to use instead) |
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| 13:53.47 | wsxws | that would be the way id prefer too |
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| 13:59.54 | Aberration | Hi all! I'm trying to find my HDDs on the debian based Kdenlive live DVD... I don't know how to find 'em |
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| 14:00.56 | wsxws | okay, lets try it a bit more easy |
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| 14:01.21 | stew | Aberration: you should be asking in a kdenlive channel then |
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| 14:01.41 | Aberration | stew: I already did... they send me back here |
| 14:01.54 | stew | Aberration: they shouldn't have |
| 14:02.27 | wsxws | i meanwhile made a new kernel and loaded the buggy networkdriver as a module (lsmod shows it) and compiled the ney drivers as module also. how to tell the kernel to take the new driver on next boot instead of the oldone ? |
| 14:02.33 | Aberration | stew: well it's a debien based distro... debian stuff to mount HDD should work there too |
| 14:02.58 | stew | Aberration: we don't support debian based distros here, just debian |
| 14:03.29 | stew | Aberration: though "man mount" should explain how to mount things anyway |
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| 14:06.38 | liable | wsxws: is it a different module name? |
| 14:06.59 | fiendishfish | Hmm... Whenever I switch from one VT to another and then back, to my X session, it doesn't load again. |
| 14:07.09 | [4-tea-2] | Did lenny really switch to dsyslog? It's astounding that the package comes with no documentation or example on how to set up logging to a remote host. I especially like this statement in configuration_guide.txt: "The authors encourage you to tinker and find out what works for you." ;) |
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| 14:07.21 | wsxws | liable yes it is |
| 14:07.24 | ktwilight_ | fiendishfish, how are you switching? |
| 14:07.30 | fiendishfish | Ctrl alt F1 |
| 14:07.32 | fiendishfish | Etc. |
| 14:07.34 | fiendishfish | AUDIT: Mon Apr 6 15:06:01 2009: 3979 X: client 11 rejected from local host (uid 0) |
| 14:07.35 | wsxws | the old is /r8169 and the new is r8168 |
| 14:07.40 | ktwilight_ | fiendishfish, tried ctrl+alt f7? |
| 14:07.49 | fiendishfish | ktwilight_: My session isn't on tty7 |
| 14:07.54 | ktwilight_ | [4-tea-2], rsyslog |
| 14:07.58 | ktwilight_ | fiendishfish, try it ;) |
| 14:08.03 | liable | wsxws: blacklist the old, and put the new in /etc/modules (/msg dpkg blacklist) |
| 14:08.12 | wsxws | thats all ? |
| 14:08.24 | liable | sure |
| 14:08.32 | wsxws | will the new driver automaticly take the config of the network ? |
| 14:08.34 | fiendishfish | ktwilight_: xD Why does that work? But I still have the problem that if I am running more than one Xserver, I can't switch. |
| 14:08.36 | [4-tea-2] | ktwilight_: thanks, gonna try that |
| 14:08.57 | ktwilight_ | fiendishfish, then it'd be in f8 or f9 ;P |
| 14:09.04 | liable | wsxws: if the interface name is the same, your interfaces file will configure it fine |
| 14:09.10 | ktwilight_ | fiendishfish, no idea, am sure it's documented somewhere but can't remember. |
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| 14:09.36 | ktwilight_ | [4-tea-2], that's default in lenny |
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| 14:10.23 | Sebboh | "mount: /dev/sda4 already mounted or /mnt/sda4 busy" ... no, it's not mounted, and that directory is ready. What's going on here? |
| 14:10.39 | wsxws | liable i just have one interface in there |
| 14:10.44 | wsxws | ill simply give it a tray |
| 14:10.47 | wsxws | try |
| 14:11.04 | Maior | Sebboh: possibly have a play with lsof / fstat |
| 14:12.14 | fiendishfish | Do you have to be a super-user to chvt |
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| 14:12.49 | MK_Mike_2 | abrotman: i've even tried reinstalled ssh now |
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| 14:13.07 | wsxws | cool that worked, thanks alot liable :) |
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| 14:13.23 | stew | fiendishfish: yes |
| 14:13.25 | liable | wsxws: yw |
| 14:13.40 | fiendishfish | stew: Is it possible to change that (for a cron script ran as normal-user) |
| 14:14.18 | stew | fiendishfish: grant the user running the script sudo access to chvt |
| 14:14.20 | ermes | an ssh session to my server crashed while executing this command: apt-get install openssl |
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| 14:14.48 | ermes | now i have : ps auxw | grep apt ----> root 30165 0.2 1.4 13372 11456 pts/0 S+ 19:36 0:01 apt-get install openssl |
| 14:14.57 | ermes | what should i do ? |
| 14:15.14 | ermes | terminate ?? hope it goes fine ?? |
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| 14:15.28 | fiendishfish | stew: but I can't type in the sudo password if it's automatic |
| 14:15.32 | MK_Mike_2 | can anyone help me with an issue i'm having with ssh where it closes just after i login? |
| 14:15.52 | simonrvn | so kill it, run dpkscreen, run dppkg --configure -a then run that again |
| 14:16.05 | simonrvn | s,dpkscreen,screen, |
| 14:16.16 | simonrvn | bah, whatever ;p |
| 14:16.19 | stew | fiendishfish: you can configure sudo to not require a password with the NOPASSWD option |
| 14:16.45 | fiendishfish | stew: for certain apps? |
| 14:16.56 | stew | fiendishfish: yes |
| 14:16.59 | fiendishfish | Sweet |
| 14:17.01 | fiendishfish | <3 |
| 14:17.17 | simonrvn | tries that again |
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| 14:17.33 | simonrvn | ermes: so kill it, run screen, run dpkg --configure -a, then run that again |
| 14:18.23 | abrotman | mk_mike: sorry, got called away |
| 14:18.33 | abrotman | mk_mike: can webmin execute bash ? |
| 14:19.07 | mk_mike | abrotman: yay, erm i think so |
| 14:19.08 | stew | abrotman: you shouldn't be asking for help with webmin in here |
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| 14:19.46 | Maior | !webmin |
| 14:19.46 | dpkg | i guess webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 14:19.56 | abrotman | stew: i'm not |
| 14:20.02 | stew | abrotman: i know :P |
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| 14:20.05 | abrotman | oh ok |
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| 14:20.40 | mk_mike | webmin is saving my ass atm. |
| 14:20.47 | abrotman | you think ... |
| 14:20.53 | abrotman | it might be the reason it's all messed up |
| 14:21.08 | mk_mike | could be but atleast i have some access to the system |
| 14:21.25 | ermes | simonrvn, i have also root 31128 0.0 0.3 4928 3104 pts/0 S 19:40 0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --configure locales libstdc++6 gcc-4.1-base cpp-4.1 binutils gcc-4.1 libssl0.9.8 libmpfr1ldbl cpp-4.3 cpp libgomp1 gcc-4.3 gcc openssl |
| 14:21.37 | ermes | should i kill this too ? |
| 14:21.51 | mk_mike | abrotman: what do you think i should do? |
| 14:23.19 | simonrvn | ermes: yeh, you'll have to. probably have to clean up the lock files, depending on the result of the kill command. (those lock files in question are /var/lib/apt/lock and /var/lib/dpkg/lock; make sure you keep the same perms and ownership) |
| 14:23.34 | ermes | ok |
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| 14:24.03 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
| 14:24.21 | mk_mike | abrotman: is there an altertive thing to ssh that allow me to login to the box so i can atleast have more control. |
| 14:24.36 | Ace2017_- | does this mean that you can switch from the linux kernel, to the bsd kernel without changing anything else? |
| 14:24.36 | abrotman | there are other sshds |
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| 14:26.05 | simonrvn | Ace2017_-: of course you can't. |
| 14:26.17 | mk_mike | this is really stupid it was working fine last night without an issue |
| 14:27.02 | Ace2017_- | simonrvn: why not? it said its going into unstable |
| 14:27.17 | simonrvn | Ace2017_-: linux != bsd. totally different kernels and userspace. |
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| 14:28.01 | izua | i have installed debian on a 1.6GiB hdd, and now i've added the box a bigger hdd (160GiB) |
| 14:28.38 | izua | is it possible to move the system to the other hdd without causing any problems? (assuming i'll change the other hdd to master after the copy process is finished..) |
| 14:28.43 | jelly | Ace2017_-: the slashdot article title is misleading. kfreebsd is a competely new architecture, there's no way to just replace the kernel |
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| 14:29.54 | simonrvn | Ace2017_-: sure they're both *nix, but it's like comparing debian lenny to mac os x. |
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| 14:31.27 | Ace2017_- | ok thanks i get it now |
| 14:32.22 | Ace2017_- | wait a sec, will it be called debian ???/bsd instead of debian gnu/linux? |
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| 14:32.58 | Ace2017_- | http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/ |
| 14:33.17 | Ace2017_- | this is confusing, i didn't know debian made netbsd |
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| 14:34.52 | simonrvn | debian gnu/knetbsd or gnu/kfreebsd, depending |
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| 14:38.50 | FloWi1729_ | hi there |
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| 14:39.51 | [4-tea-2] | Ah, syslog-ng is my friend. |
| 14:39.58 | FloWi1729_ | Does anyone know how a | (or) in the deb control file under "depends" is resolved? I mean, by which algorithm is it determined? |
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| 14:40.30 | stew | FloWi1729_: it will pick the first one unless a subsequent is already installed |
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| 14:48.00 | urbanmonk | hi ... after upgrading to lenny i'm having a weird issue with bash autocomplete ... the shell no longer wants to autocomplete directory names ... it still works for commands though |
| 14:49.02 | stew | urbanmonk: is the bash-completion package installed? |
| 14:49.14 | urbanmonk | yeah .. i removed it and reinstalled it |
| 14:49.56 | urbanmonk | for example here i am trying to "cd" into my download directory ... i type "cd dow" and then tab |
| 14:49.57 | urbanmonk | cd dow-sh: <( compgen -d -- 'dow' ): No such file or directory |
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| 14:50.37 | hellues | hey |
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| 14:50.52 | hellues | how can i use fsck command for check spesific directory |
| 14:51.05 | hellues | or are there any tool to check erros in directory |
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| 14:52.28 | delaman | to restart my debian server is this command the correct command to use "shutdown -r now" ?? |
| 14:52.37 | urbanmonk | yes |
| 14:52.42 | urbanmonk | as root |
| 14:52.49 | delaman | urbanmonk: ok thanks |
| 14:52.49 | avu | that or just "reboot" |
| 14:52.58 | urbanmonk | hellues: fsck should tell you if there are any errors at all |
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| 14:53.16 | urbanmonk | hellues: you don't really want any errors on your filesystem |
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| 14:54.53 | hellues | yes |
| 14:55.05 | hellues | i do fsck -y -f /devsda2 |
| 14:55.14 | hellues | and it wholly collapse my file system |
| 14:55.25 | hellues | and this files is in lost+found |
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| 14:55.28 | GodFather- | Hey, I've installed gnome and nomachine nx on my server, and now I'm trying to login to it from the client on my pc and it's telling me I can't login with root, and I know I shoudnt login with root. Does anyone know how to add users? or how to login? |
| 14:55.34 | hellues | and some file is important for me |
| 14:55.37 | omid8bimo | guys.. g77 has been removed from lenny?! |
| 14:55.50 | hellues | and i want to check file by file or directory by directory |
| 14:55.56 | hellues | and i ask is it possible |
| 14:56.17 | hellues | because |
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| 14:56.28 | hellues | if i take some directory from lost+found |
| 14:56.36 | hellues | again file system gives an error |
| 14:56.54 | hellues | i want to make very deep scandisk and defragmentation |
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| 14:58.43 | urbanmonk | hellues: do you have errors when you boot up? |
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| 14:59.33 | medecau | \o |
| 14:59.34 | hellues | no |
| 14:59.42 | hellues | buyt my machine is very slow |
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| 15:00.50 | medecau | i am prepepring to mirror packages, iwant to use rsync to save bandwidth in future updates, any pointers? |
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| 15:00.59 | hellues | hey |
| 15:01.00 | hellues | An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for Nautilus. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. |
| 15:01.07 | hellues | what does that mistake mean |
| 15:01.29 | ranix | translates into "ignore me" |
| 15:01.47 | ranix | or "Hello. Press ok to continue" |
| 15:02.09 | urbanmonk | hellues: its not a related problem ... if you are having trouble with the filesystem you should first try booting into single user mode and running fsck ... search google to know how to do this |
| 15:02.15 | urbanmonk | sorry gotta change classes |
| 15:03.26 | hellues | http://paste.org/6378 error is that |
| 15:03.31 | hellues | can you check that url |
| 15:03.38 | hellues | i open nautilus from terminal |
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| 15:03.45 | hellues | and i took this message 20 times |
| 15:06.50 | omid8bimo | guys.. g77 has been removed from lenny?! |
| 15:07.01 | omid8bimo | anyone knows? |
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| 15:09.54 | jelly | omid8bimo: does GCC still have a g77 frontend? |
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| 15:10.14 | jelly | judd: info gfortran-4.3 |
| 15:10.14 | judd | jelly: gfortran-4.3 (devel): is optional; Version: 4.3.2-1.1; Size: 3421.4k; Installed: 9044k -- The GNU Fortran 95 compiler |
| 15:10.35 | omid8bimo | jelly: i should but won't compile g77 based source files |
| 15:10.36 | omid8bimo | ! |
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| 15:13.31 | jelly | omid8bimo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G77 says it was replaced by gfortran in gcc 4.0 |
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| 15:14.17 | omid8bimo | jelly: yeah i know. but what if an old package need g77? |
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| 15:14.56 | omid8bimo | i did s/link it and didn't work |
| 15:14.58 | Sebboh | ... yeah you can't "replace" a specific version of fortran.. duh. :) |
| 15:15.14 | Sebboh | That's why they have numbers. :P |
| 15:15.36 | jelly | omid8bimo: I assume they either fixed their code to build with current gcc, or were left behind. |
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| 15:16.07 | omid8bimo | jelly: probably |
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| 15:19.44 | Sebboh | So Debian doesn't want to be used by the United States Air Force, eh? ..Actually, nevermind, they do need to fix/change their code. It's probably for the best. |
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| 15:20.10 | omid8bimo | Sebboh: is there any reason why they won't? |
| 15:20.29 | Sebboh | Original authors died. |
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| 15:20.42 | omid8bimo | oops! so sad |
| 15:20.42 | Sebboh | *shrug* |
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| 15:21.05 | Sebboh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_system |
| 15:21.37 | ranix | too bad so sad |
| 15:21.43 | ranix | man with keys gets hit by bus |
| 15:21.45 | ranix | news at 11 |
| 15:22.01 | ranix | most fundamental possible security correction and the US government f's it up |
| 15:22.13 | ranix | stay tuned for breaking coverage |
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| 15:27.03 | Wizard | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090405 :D |
| 15:27.40 | Wizard | hi |
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| 15:27.58 | Wizard | does anybody use debian on powerbook? |
| 15:28.43 | xerophyte | How can i avoid getting . directory with find result? |
| 15:29.07 | Wizard | xerophyte: you mean ./blabla/xyz? |
| 15:29.16 | Wizard | that '.'? |
| 15:29.27 | Maior | xerophyte: add a not check for "-name .\*" |
| 15:29.41 | Maior | xerophyte: or do you literally mean .? |
| 15:29.53 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 15:29.53 | dpkg | hmm... ppc is is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 15:30.08 | Wizard | :D |
| 15:30.10 | Maior | lol |
| 15:30.13 | xerophyte | Maior: if you tine find some folder |
| 15:30.19 | Maior | "tine"? |
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| 15:31.05 | GodFather- | whenever I try to edit a file with gedit I get cannot open display: (null), anyone know why or how to solve this? |
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| 15:35.02 | nullie | Hello. Where can I find debian packaging reference? All what I found was policy and new maint guide, both don't contains some details (like prerm and postisnt) |
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| 15:36.14 | pixou | hi all :) does someone know something about ruby applications packaging for debian ? A complete one since I never created a debian package :S thanks ! |
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| 15:37.32 | jetscreamer | set display ... but why isn't it |
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| 15:39.28 | stew | pixou: you might ask #debian-ruby on irc.debian.org |
| 15:39.40 | jpinx | GodFather-: did you try another editor to see if the problem is gedit or the file |
| 15:39.40 | stew | nullie: see the policy manual |
| 15:40.04 | pixou | stew: thanks I didn't know it :) |
| 15:40.27 | stew | GodFather-: what does "echo $DISPLAY" return (if anything)? are you trying to run something as a user other than the one that is logged in? (like as root?) |
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| 15:41.09 | jetscreamer | or from console |
| 15:41.25 | GodFather- | it returns an empty line steve |
| 15:41.25 | GodFather- | er |
| 15:41.27 | GodFather- | stew |
| 15:41.45 | GodFather- | jpinx: I did not, I'm trying pico now |
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| 15:42.16 | jetscreamer | now wonders more strongly ... 'console?' |
| 15:42.23 | stew | GodFather-: are you in x? or at a text console? or ssh? or what? |
| 15:42.32 | GodFather- | text console |
| 15:42.37 | GodFather- | putty |
| 15:42.41 | stew | GodFather-: gedit will only work in X |
| 15:42.42 | jetscreamer | mcedit, nano |
| 15:42.47 | GodFather- | yea I figured that |
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| 15:42.56 | jetscreamer | that's why no display set |
| 15:43.02 | GodFather- | ah nano |
| 15:43.04 | GodFather- | let me try nano |
| 15:43.06 | jetscreamer | nano -w |
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| 15:43.18 | jetscreamer | turns off word wrap |
| 15:43.33 | stew | GodFather-: if you are running putty inside X, you could forward the window to your local X server, but I suspect you are probably running putty from something like windows |
| 15:44.01 | leOn | hey .. can anyone tell me why does linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686 have "oldstyle Xen support" in its description? ... is there a new style? |
| 15:44.14 | jpinx | waits to hear how to forward a window to the local box |
| 15:44.24 | GodFather- | windows vista |
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| 15:44.53 | stew | jpinx: in putty? |
| 15:45.10 | jpinx | stew - in ssh |
| 15:45.31 | stew | jpinx: check "Enable X11 forwarding" in ssh/X11 settings |
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| 15:45.46 | stew | jpinx: it must be enabled on the server and xuauth must be available on both machines, /msg dpkg sshx |
| 15:45.49 | jpinx | stew on the remote box or local? |
| 15:45.56 | jpinx | ah -- ok |
| 15:46.01 | jpinx | thanks |
| 15:46.48 | stew | jpinx: it has to be enabled on both sides, if you are using the openssh client, you enable it on the client side with -X, for putty with a "Enable X11 Forwarding" checkbox |
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| 15:47.17 | jpinx | ok tks - trying it now |
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| 15:50.57 | szalinski | hi, why is my main root / mounted twice, it says /dev/sdc1 is mounted on /, /dev/.static/dev? |
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| 15:51.14 | jetscreamer | !blame udev |
| 15:51.14 | dpkg | blames fatalerrors|away and udev for the end of culture as we know it |
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| 15:53.07 | adilalpman | hi |
| 15:53.19 | jetscreamer | not helpful, but true i think |
| 15:53.21 | adilalpman | i need help about proftpd first config |
| 15:53.27 | szalinski | jetscreamer: then any idea how to get rid of it? |
| 15:53.46 | szalinski | it only appeared since i moved my hd to a different connector |
| 15:54.17 | jetscreamer | me i'd look in /etc/udev (iirc) first, but no not really any clue |
| 15:55.11 | adilalpman | i install then uninstall proftpd server on debian 5.0 and now install it again but i only uncomment RequireValidShell option in proftpd.conf file and set it off, but now i get error meesage... :S |
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| 15:58.30 | szalinski | if you're running proftpd as a standalone server, restart it when you make config changes |
| 15:58.59 | szalinski | you should ask in #proftpd |
| 15:59.15 | adilalpman | nothing alive in that channnel sza :S |
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| 15:59.21 | adilalpman | sorry :( |
| 15:59.24 | ultraj6 | how do i secure my debian server for use on the internet? |
| 15:59.25 | szalinski | sounds familiar :P |
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| 15:59.59 | adilalpman | i have just restart it and i get error instead of nothing was changed in my proftpd.conf file... :S |
| 16:00.13 | szalinski | ultraj6: google 'dedicated server security' |
| 16:00.29 | szalinski | adilalpman: what do the error logs say, exactly? |
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| 16:01.29 | adilalpman | adil-desktop:/home/adilalpman# /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 16:01.29 | adilalpman | Stopping ftp server: proftpd. |
| 16:01.29 | adilalpman | Starting ftp server: proftpd - Fatal: unknown configuration directive 'Include' on line 7 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf' |
| 16:01.35 | adilalpman | i get that :( |
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| 16:02.17 | adilalpman | but nothing was changed in my proftpd server i have just install the proftpd server and now only i restart my proftpd server and get this error... :( |
| 16:02.34 | szalinski | tell me what is on line 7 of the proftpd.conf file then |
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| 16:03.39 | adilalpman | ok |
| 16:04.01 | adilalpman | line 7 is : ModulePath /usr/lib/proftpd |
| 16:04.15 | adilalpman | but i have no change anything in this file :S |
| 16:04.37 | szalinski | can you pastebin your entire conf file? |
| 16:04.53 | szalinski | something has to be wrong |
| 16:05.35 | S3v3N | guys i know this isn't debian question but anyway, can someone tell me where i could ask about eggdrop (tcl scripting), please? |
| 16:05.53 | szalinski | #eggdrop |
| 16:06.15 | S3v3N | not many people online so i don't think that's the good one :s |
| 16:06.25 | S3v3N | any channel else maybe u know? |
| 16:06.37 | szalinski | it was just my best guess lol |
| 16:07.52 | S3v3N | hehe then thanks anyway ;P |
| 16:08.22 | Graveworm | Hi :). I need a hint. I administrate a debian server which is used mainly as file server. At this machine there are a lot of Windows clients connected. If I'am at home I need to connect to this server via a vpn with windows (iexplorer is needed because of the vpn). |
| 16:08.30 | Graveworm | I now want to connect from my virtual Windows at home via the server to the machines at work using rdp. The server has no x installed. So how can I achieve that the screen of the machine from work is redirected to my machine at home via the server? Is rinetd what I need? |
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| 16:09.07 | XxtjaxX | hey guys |
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| 16:09.19 | XxtjaxX | somebody here good in c++?? |
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| 16:10.20 | hoxu | XxtjaxX, ##c++ |
| 16:10.26 | Maior | XxtjaxX: I'd imagine there are people in ##c++ who might be |
| 16:11.12 | adilalpman | heyyy |
| 16:11.20 | adilalpman | i have paste bin my proftpd.conf file |
| 16:11.23 | adilalpman | :) |
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| 16:12.28 | XxtjaxX | so adilalpman what can that do to us? |
| 16:12.32 | XxtjaxX | hoxu, Maior well tthese bastards constantly ship me to #overflow |
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| 16:13.01 | adilalpman | http://pastebin.com/m5526ccde |
| 16:13.16 | stew | XxtjaxX: you need to be registered to join ##c++ ; http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup has a guide to setting up your nick the 'freenode way' |
| 16:13.35 | adilalpman | sza said me that pls pastebin ur proftpd.conf file |
| 16:13.51 | XxtjaxX | why? |
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| 16:14.11 | stew | XxtjaxX: you'll have to ask the ops in ##c++ ; probably to reduce the amount of spam |
| 16:14.21 | XxtjaxX | well anyway whho doesnt get into that now can come to #c++/join |
| 16:14.27 | adilalpman | because i have problem with my profpts servers first config :( |
| 16:14.47 | XxtjaxX | what happend |
| 16:14.50 | XxtjaxX | ?? |
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| 16:16.23 | adilalpman | i install then uninstall proftpd server on debian 5.0 and now install it again but i only uncomment RequireValidShell option in proftpd.conf file and set it off, but now i get error meesage... :S |
| 16:17.02 | stew | adilalpman: what error message? |
| 16:17.23 | undercover_lover | adilalpman, save yourself the headache and just install pureftpd |
| 16:17.29 | undercover_lover | Works like a charm |
| 16:17.39 | adilalpman | i hav just install my proftpd server than i put /etc/init.d/proftpd restart command and i get "adil-desktop:/home/adilalpman# /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 16:17.39 | adilalpman | Stopping ftp server: proftpd. |
| 16:17.39 | adilalpman | Starting ftp server: proftpd - Fatal: unknown configuration directive 'Include' on line 7 of '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf' |
| 16:17.39 | adilalpman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.39 | adilalpman | adil-desktop:/home/adilalpman# |
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| 16:18.02 | adilalpman | omg, bot dont like me :S |
| 16:18.18 | undercover_lover | you flood |
| 16:18.36 | adilalpman | no |
| 16:18.46 | undercover_lover | adilalpman, nano /etc/proftp/proftp.conf |
| 16:18.50 | undercover_lover | And look at line 7 |
| 16:18.51 | adilalpman | i just only paste my proftpd servers error mess |
| 16:18.56 | undercover_lover | See what its complaining about |
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| 16:19.03 | adilalpman | i have just looked at there |
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| 16:19.07 | undercover_lover | And? |
| 16:19.22 | stew | adilalpman: yes, you were kicked for flooding, please don't paste more than a line or two, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 16:19.32 | adilalpman | and it has : "ModulePath /usr/lib/proftpd" |
| 16:19.52 | Rackattack | Anybody here experienced with Debian? I have a good number of questions. |
| 16:20.02 | stew | Rackattack: lots of people. just ask your quesitons |
| 16:20.06 | undercover_lover | adilalpman, do you still have the original conf ? |
| 16:20.20 | adilalpman | i think that but i am not sure :S |
| 16:20.28 | undercover_lover | stew while good of you to state such a sentence |
| 16:20.39 | stew | adilalpman: can you put your proftpd.conf into a pastebin? have you otherwise altered the config? you might want to just start with a fresh config? |
| 16:20.42 | undercover_lover | http://rafb.net/p/hLWSVr65.html I cant seem to get apt-get to cooperate |
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| 16:21.07 | Rackattack | First, I'm using an emachine e520 with 1280x800 resolution. the desktop's stretching and looks ugly. Anything to fix that? |
| 16:21.10 | XxtjaxX | stew be careful u already began ur second line |
| 16:21.22 | stew | undercover_lover: show us the output of "apt-cache policy libmetacity0 metacity-common" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 16:21.23 | adilalpman | undercover : my conf file is there : http://pastebin.com/m5526ccde |
| 16:21.33 | crdavids | Is debain using hotplugging now instead of the xorg.conf in some cases? |
| 16:21.41 | adilalpman | sorry :S |
| 16:21.48 | stew | crdavids: what do you mean by "hotplugging"? |
| 16:21.56 | adilalpman | stew : my proftpd.conf file is here http://pastebin.com/m5526ccde |
| 16:21.59 | undercover_lover | stew: you mean like the one i just used? =P |
| 16:22.17 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack check if graphics are ok or check if ur graphics card iss supportted |
| 16:22.29 | stew | undercover_lover: i don't know what you mean |
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| 16:22.38 | ktebit | is there a way to remount / as noatime without having to shutdown and all? |
| 16:22.44 | crdavids | stew: device hotplugging |
| 16:22.45 | undercover_lover | undercover_lover> http://rafb.net/p/hLWSVr65.html I cant seem to get apt-get to cooperate <----- |
| 16:22.48 | ktebit | like this mount -o remount,noatime / ? |
| 16:22.50 | Rackattack | How do I do that in KDE 3.5? |
| 16:22.57 | crdavids | stew: for keyboards, mice, etc |
| 16:23.12 | stew | undercover_lover: yeah, i saw that, i was asking for different information |
| 16:23.17 | ktebit | any idea stew ? |
| 16:23.18 | undercover_lover | ;o) |
| 16:23.23 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack i seen that one but ah cant reacall the name |
| 16:23.24 | stew | crdavids: that stuff is typically detected at runtime now |
| 16:23.29 | undercover_lover | One moment |
| 16:24.00 | Rackattack | do i look at xorg, probably? |
| 16:24.06 | stew | ktebit: pass -o remount,noatime to mount |
| 16:24.15 | undercover_lover | stew - knock yourself out | http://rafb.net/p/oiRXWa85.html |
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| 16:24.19 | stew | Rackattack: do you know what the native resolution of the monitor is? |
| 16:24.21 | ktebit | stew: like this mount -o remount,noatime / ? |
| 16:24.29 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack KRDC/something/ in system settings would be a good draw |
| 16:24.31 | Rackattack | it's 1280x800 |
| 16:24.41 | undercover_lover | Rackattack, emachine got their monitor technology right |
| 16:24.54 | undercover_lover | As far as hardware thats another story |
| 16:24.59 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, seems not,,, |
| 16:25.07 | XxtjaxX | for this luckky champ |
| 16:25.15 | crdavids | stew: i'm running arch, just switched form debain, and have recently learned that this hotplugging thing is the new thing |
| 16:25.18 | Rackattack | I can't seem to change the resolution in sys. settings, tho :( |
| 16:25.24 | undercover_lover | XxtjaxX, i got a 15' flatty by emachine and it runs very well |
| 16:25.56 | ktebit | stew: so? |
| 16:26.03 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, well i still stick to a tuber since 2000 17" |
| 16:26.06 | stew | crdavids: i still don't know what you mean by hotplugging. but debian is moving towards not having a xorg.conf at all and is detecting stuff at runtime instead |
| 16:26.15 | undercover_lover | Ouch |
| 16:26.15 | crdavids | stew: if the device is not present on X startup, then is plugged in, hald communicates with X to get it up and running |
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| 16:26.20 | ktebit | mount -o remount,noatime / ? |
| 16:26.24 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, XD |
| 16:26.28 | undercover_lover | Those tubes have low resolution |
| 16:26.54 | stew | undercover_lover: libmetacity0 is an old library, check the recent source package, it probably go an soname bump |
| 16:27.00 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, ah nope its 1024x768 its enough currently |
| 16:27.04 | ktebit | dont ignore me man plz |
| 16:27.21 | crdavids | stew: ok, good, it has been called hotplugging in some places and it is replacing the need for a xorg.conf |
| 16:27.27 | stew | crdavids: oh, yes, debian has been doing that for a long time |
| 16:27.37 | stew | ktebit: sure |
| 16:27.44 | Rackattack | there's no choices for moniot resolution? o_O What the heck do I do here? |
| 16:27.47 | undercover_lover | Its a old source? O_o |
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| 16:28.00 | undercover_lover | I _just_ installed lenny yesterday |
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| 16:28.07 | undercover_lover | And updated like 700 packages |
| 16:28.09 | stew | undercover_lover: yeah, but since then you upgraded to sid |
| 16:28.16 | cr3 | where might Debconf::Template be documented? the source doesn't really contain any perldoc |
| 16:28.18 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, HAHA |
| 16:28.40 | Rackattack | I installed just yesterday, too. I'm switching from Kubuntu. |
| 16:28.46 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, thats not bad but do that with a Ubuntu hardy 80.4 from 2007 |
| 16:29.12 | undercover_lover | XxtjaxX, i moved from ubuntu lol |
| 16:29.14 | crdavids | stew: i think arch has too... most wiki's still show the old way, though... my problem is that synaptics works with defaults, but when i edit the xorg.conf, it didn't work. I then discovered that xorg.conf is becoming deprecated, and that hotplugging is the way to go. That is where I am now, did some work on it but i've hit a road block |
| 16:29.16 | stew | Rackattack: monitor resolution is detected at runtime. you can override this by specifying a specific resolution in xorg.conf, or change it at runtime with xrandr |
| 16:29.17 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack, maybe u should have stayed there |
| 16:29.33 | Rackattack | xrandr? |
| 16:29.55 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, it wasnt my mashine and it was a horror of a download witha 400kbps connection |
| 16:30.11 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack, exactly |
| 16:30.18 | undercover_lover | DSL ? |
| 16:30.22 | Rackattack | Where's that? lol |
| 16:30.30 | undercover_lover | stew, tell me i dont have to go through the pain of reinstalling |
| 16:30.42 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack, settings look arround dont be lazy |
| 16:30.43 | stew | undercover_lover: why would you reinstall? |
| 16:30.51 | undercover_lover | I thought i was on lenny |
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| 16:30.52 | undercover_lover | =/ |
| 16:31.04 | adilalpman | can anybody help me? |
| 16:31.08 | undercover_lover | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 16:31.08 | undercover_lover | squeeze/sid |
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| 16:31.13 | adnc | hello, does anyone know if there is a open source project of simple finger tracking with a webcam, which could be used for presentations? |
| 16:31.13 | stew | undercover_lover: not since you started instlaling packages from the sid repository you added |
| 16:31.15 | uriahheep | uh, why hasn't jackd support been built into the default mplayer package? i mean, it just checks for it if alsa is busy, so i don't see how it would conflict with anyone's setup if it was built-in by default... right? |
| 16:31.45 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, dist upgrade |
| 16:31.53 | undercover_lover | I think im gonna puke |
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| 16:31.57 | xingu | what's the simplest way to find all packages installed from a particular repo/ source? |
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| 16:32.11 | undercover_lover | I spent 2 days just getting debian just right and now i have to back track |
| 16:32.21 | stew | xingu: there is no way to know, you can check which repository things are available from now by using apt-show-versions |
| 16:32.38 | stew | uriahheep: according to the depends it is compiled against libjack0 |
| 16:32.44 | XxtjaxX | undercover_lover, stop bitchin and do ur job just make a dist upgrade it wont hurt and no cofigs will be fucked |
| 16:32.54 | crdavids | stew: do you have any wisdom on this issue? |
| 16:33.05 | stew | XxtjaxX: how do you know that? |
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| 16:33.30 | XxtjaxX | stew, knowing what ?+ |
| 16:33.37 | undercover_lover | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 16:33.43 | undercover_lover | After doing dist-upgrade |
| 16:33.44 | stew | XxtjaxX: that when he dist-upgrades to side no configs will be fucked |
| 16:33.51 | stew | ^side^sid |
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| 16:34.14 | xingu | stew: is there a way to dump the maintainer for all currently installed packages? |
| 16:34.36 | stew | xingu: yeah, have a look at grep-status from grep-dctrl |
| 16:34.38 | XxtjaxX | stew i thought he wants to upgrade to lenny not to sid |
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| 16:34.48 | undercover_lover | I think those upgrades i did yesterday downgraded my system |
| 16:34.49 | xingu | stew: that's the fella, thanks. |
| 16:34.49 | stew | XxtjaxX: he wishes he were on lenny instead of sid, yes |
| 16:34.57 | undercover_lover | Which is why i have old packages and why compiz fucked up on me |
| 16:34.58 | dmi3on | hi,i am trying to set up ssh on debian |
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| 16:35.18 | dmi3on | i configure port, and forward port on a router also |
| 16:35.19 | undercover_lover | ffs! >_< |
| 16:35.25 | dmi3on | but have problem to connecting |
| 16:35.47 | XxtjaxX | oh my god its him >> dmi3on |
| 16:35.47 | stew | crdavids: can you explain the problem better than "didn't work" |
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| 16:36.34 | Rackattack | I maay have screwed up somewhere >_> |
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| 16:37.03 | XxtjaxX | Rackattack, have u fucked with the xconf? |
| 16:37.14 | Rackattack | Does this command do anything? xrandr --output LVDS --off --output VGA --mode 1440x900 --crtc 0 --output TMDS-1 --mode 1440x900 --left-of VGA --crtc 1 |
| 16:38.06 | undercover_lover | Does this mean i have to start all over? -> http://rafb.net/p/9BbVwR41.html |
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| 16:38.20 | Rackattack | replacing 1440x900 with 1280x800? |
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| 16:38.27 | stew | Rackattack: that appears to say "turn off the LVDS, configure two monitors, VGA and TMDS-1, TMDS-1 should be to the left of VGA" |
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| 16:38.49 | filePeter | Is there any debian way of switching a pci-tv-card into powersave mode? Or can I just switch it off till I want it again? Plug'n'play alike? :-) |
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| 16:39.18 | undercover_lover | XxtjaxX, well that didnt work |
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| 16:40.12 | crdavids | stew: as for the xorg.conf, there is currently no reference to synaptics and the touchpad works, as soon as the changes are made to be able to cusomize it, the touchpad does nothing |
| 16:40.28 | delaman | question,,,,, my site.org works but not www.site.org does not,,, what can be the problem? |
| 16:40.36 | Rackattack | LVDS is laptop video display, i think? |
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| 16:40.52 | stew | undercover_lover: that paste isn't any indication of a problem. if you intend to be running lenny aka stable, then yes, a reinstall is probably the easist thing |
| 16:41.24 | undercover_lover | aw fucken hell |
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| 16:41.43 | undercover_lover | stew: one more thing before i leave |
| 16:42.10 | undercover_lover | stew, once i go through the trouble again, should i ignore the package update icon at the top right ? |
| 16:42.27 | stew | undercover_lover: in the future we'd recommend not trying to mix packages from stable and testing/unstable. if you need something newer, use a backport instead |
| 16:42.30 | crdavids | stew: next, i copied the necessary files from /usr/share to /etc/hal/fdi/policy (may not apply in debian?) and changed the files as required (similar to pasting in a synaptics section to xorg.conf |
| 16:42.37 | crdavids | stew: once again, no effect |
| 16:42.42 | debianoob | when i do aptitude install xserver-xorg-core it says it has too install all these -> http://pastebin.ca/1383853 |
| 16:42.45 | stew | undercover_lover: no, you should not ignore it, you should just not enable unstable sources in sources.list |
| 16:43.05 | stew | crdavids: can you show me the changes you made to xorg.conf? |
| 16:43.15 | debianoob | can someone take a look and tell me if it is supposed to happen |
| 16:43.28 | klaz168 | debianoob, yes |
| 16:43.53 | undercover_lover | stew take a look at this and i'll leave you be |
| 16:43.55 | undercover_lover | http://rafb.net/p/3K4cKo97.html <---- |
| 16:44.00 | crdavids | stew: i deleted them after i made these other changes. they were as suggested in an arch wiki which referenced a debian wiki... its the standard way |
| 16:44.06 | undercover_lover | I did this yesterday to install compiz |
| 16:44.07 | klaz168 | debianoob, those are libraries + video drivers, you wouldnt run X without those, would you? |
| 16:44.15 | maligor | I think the video drivers are recommends |
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| 16:44.21 | undercover_lover | Does the tuxfamily.org one a unstable source |
| 16:44.23 | undercover_lover | ? |
| 16:44.26 | stew | undercover_lover: yes, the problem is that you added the three sid lines |
| 16:44.26 | undercover_lover | Does/Is |
| 16:44.33 | undercover_lover | Ok |
| 16:44.34 | undercover_lover | Thanx |
| 16:44.38 | Rackattack | Alright, would this work at all? "xrandr --output LVDS --1280x800" |
| 16:44.42 | crdavids | stew: i would like to move away from the xorg.conf but its hard to find people who have |
| 16:44.43 | stew | undercover_lover: yes, as is deb http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/debian sid main non-free contrib |
| 16:45.01 | stew | undercover_lover: and none of that was necessary to install compiz |
| 16:45.14 | undercover_lover | Im starting to think that now |
| 16:45.14 | stew | crdavids: wait, are you running arch now or debian? |
| 16:45.15 | undercover_lover | =/ |
| 16:45.42 | undercover_lover | Thanx stew |
| 16:45.44 | crdavids | stew: arch |
| 16:45.47 | debianoob | why does it need all the openchrome, savage stuff? I don't have hardware from them |
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| 16:45.54 | stew | crdavids: you are in the wrong channel then |
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| 16:45.58 | undercover_lover | Im off to do another lenny install |
| 16:46.40 | crdavids | stew: the arch one was no help, so i thought i'd see if there were similarities in this area since the xorg conf changes are identical |
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| 16:47.13 | debianoob | and why does it have a "{a}" at the end?? |
| 16:47.23 | stew | crdavids: I have no idea, but if the arch one is no help, perhaps try ##linux or #xorg ; not here |
| 16:47.27 | debianoob | in http://pastebin.ca/1383853 |
| 16:47.39 | crdavids | stew: alright, thanks for your time |
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| 16:47.47 | stew | debianoob: {a} indicates it is being automatically installed to satisfy dependencies |
| 16:48.02 | stew | debianoob: (and when it is no longer needed, it will be automatically removed) |
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| 16:48.31 | debianoob | ok |
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| 16:48.41 | stew | debianoob: those other drivers might not be needed, but it is installing them all so that the one you need will be available |
| 16:48.54 | stew | debianoob: if you know what you are doing you can instead just install the drivers you need |
| 16:49.03 | debianoob | would aptitude install xserver-xorg-core install xserver? |
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| 16:49.37 | stew | debianoob: yes |
| 16:50.17 | debianoob | I mean if that's enough to get xfce working? |
| 16:50.37 | stew | debianoob: that's definately not enough to get anything working |
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| 16:50.49 | debianoob | thanks much, been a great help |
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| 16:53.37 | LiCeT | hi all |
| 16:54.20 | a[2121]e | hi |
| 16:54.30 | Rackattack | Does this command work for setting the resolution? "xrandr --output LVDS --1280x800" |
| 16:54.47 | simonrvn | !lkddb |
| 16:54.52 | simonrvn | !lkddb is <reply>http://cateee.net/lkddb/ -- Linux Kernel Driver DataBase "What Linux drivers are for me?" |
| 16:54.52 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
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| 16:56.08 | jelly | Rackattack: you probably meant -s or --size 1280x800 |
| 16:56.41 | Rackattack | will try that |
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| 16:57.09 | jetscreamer | what is lvds |
| 16:57.13 | jelly | Rackattack: "xrandr" is itself should list supported modes for each output |
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| 16:58.03 | Rackattack | says "can't open display" |
| 16:58.14 | simonrvn | ... |
| 16:58.34 | epsilon | you have to remove the screws of your TFT so it can be opened |
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| 16:59.00 | stew | Rackattack: you'd either need to run that from within X or after setting the DISPLAY variable to :0 |
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| 17:00.04 | simonrvn | or not run it as root... |
| 17:00.45 | sshc | to which group do I need to give a user's .ssh permissions? if I give them to root only they can't log on. but I don't want to let every user logged on be able to read the keys in .ssh |
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| 17:01.21 | bananahands | is there a way to check if my hard drives are malfunctioning in terminal, I tried fdisk -l ? |
| 17:01.53 | dmi3on | can any one help me find out why ssh doenst work on debian i try to access it from putty |
| 17:02.03 | frostschutz | bananahands: smartctl, badblocks (especially the latter is dangerous, read the man page first) |
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| 17:02.25 | bananahands | ok |
| 17:02.32 | epsilon | .ssh should have <user>:<user> 700 |
| 17:02.39 | jelly | sshc: the group is not relevant, make the directory rwx for user only |
| 17:02.50 | frostschutz | bananahands: oh, and ofc i/o errors would probably show up in dmesg too |
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| 17:03.19 | jelly | epsilon: :<user> part only if the system is set up for each user to have own group. |
| 17:03.30 | sshc | jelly: won't every user be able to see all valid public keys if I do? |
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| 17:04.38 | epsilon | sshc: well the user must be able to access the sec key on server... otherwise he can't login |
| 17:04.43 | ktebit | if you were to add more than one new drive to a raid 5 array, would it be better to add them one at a time (and let the resync finish before adding the next one), or is it ok to add 2 at once? |
| 17:05.02 | epsilon | at once |
| 17:05.18 | jelly | sshc: how do you figure that? If you give /home/user1/.ssh more 700 and the directory is owned by user1 (that is, rwx just for that user), then only root and user1 will be able to access it |
| 17:05.25 | ktebit | at once? |
| 17:06.26 | sshc | jelly: more than one key exists in authorized_keys |
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| 17:06.55 | simonrvn | sshc: and? |
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| 17:07.01 | ktebit | so? |
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| 17:07.51 | ktebit | any ideas? |
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| 17:09.05 | simonrvn | ktebit: why not add them in all at once? sure the total sync time will take longer, but you don't have to go muck around in it again. |
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| 17:09.27 | ktebit | you mean it's ok to add 2 drives at the same time (in the smae mdadm --add command)? |
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| 17:15.10 | simonrvn | doesn't do rdp so has no clue |
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| 17:17.41 | AlHafoudh | hi all, please why i am waiting so long for password when i ssh to some server? other servers dont do that? same distro |
| 17:18.46 | EmleyMoor | AlHafoudh: Are client and server close, network-wise? |
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| 17:18.51 | AlHafoudh | yes |
| 17:18.52 | AlHafoudh | lan |
| 17:18.54 | AlHafoudh | 100mbit |
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| 17:19.16 | EmleyMoor | Do ssh -vvv ... that might give a clue |
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| 17:20.10 | jonsmith1982 | security updates for debian..... aptitude is listing a few programs that could be used to help hack my system, like login, passwd, openssl..... seems a bit suspicious. is this correct? |
| 17:20.44 | EmleyMoor | johnsmith1982: When did you last update? |
| 17:21.14 | jonsmith1982 | it should be a fresh install, or etch, it was done by someone other than me. |
| 17:21.26 | jonsmith1982 | a fresh install with virtualmin install.sh |
| 17:21.29 | Graveworm | AlHafoudh: Is the avahi-daemon running? I had the problem while it was running but not used/configured. After stopping it it worked. |
| 17:21.38 | AlHafoudh | no |
| 17:21.55 | jonsmith1982 | of etch* |
| 17:22.06 | EmleyMoor | Fresh from where though? etch is the oldstable and I would expect updates... |
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| 17:22.47 | jonsmith1982 | good question. |
| 17:23.04 | AlHafoudh | debug waits long on debug2: key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa ((nil)) |
| 17:23.51 | EmleyMoor | Al |
| 17:24.15 | EmleyMoor | AlHafoudh: Obviously you need to stop it doing that... |
| 17:24.26 | AlHafoudh | .. |
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| 17:24.47 | AlHafoudh | how? :) what is the problem? |
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| 17:25.09 | AlHafoudh | whenever i connect from different PC i am stalled for 20 secs |
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| 17:25.21 | EmleyMoor | That file or the lack of it |
| 17:26.26 | AlHafoudh | i created it with keygen, same problem :( |
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| 17:26.59 | jonsmith1982 | EmleyMoor, do packages marked as security updates only come from debian? so it should be safe to install if they are from debian? |
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| 17:28.12 | batcoder-7 | anyone here use xchat? |
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| 17:28.38 | EmleyMoor | jonsmith1982: It is *possible* that they are not genuine, though unlikely especially if validly signed - but you'd need to have them verified to be sure. |
| 17:29.12 | Lectus | Hey guys! How do you configure DHCP internet connection in Debian? Does it configure it automatically? |
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| 17:29.29 | karmatronic | hi buddies |
| 17:29.33 | OpenTokix | Lectus: you configure it in /etc/network/interfaces - you will get a question during install |
| 17:29.39 | OpenTokix | Lectus: default is dhcp |
| 17:30.07 | EmleyMoor | Lectus: It is easy to set up a new machine with it... default in fact... and not hard to change over to it |
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| 17:30.57 | smacnay | I am using the default Deb install with Gnome as my wde. Maybe I missed a memo, but is the "System - Administration - Services" dialog not working? I cannot access any of the options. |
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| 17:33.44 | EmleyMoor | What de you mean by "access"? They are simple on/off switches |
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| 17:36.43 | sshc | I'm trying to login through ssh but it says my permissions of authorized_keys is invalid |
| 17:36.46 | sshc | Authentication failed: bad ownership or modes for file authorized |
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| 17:37.10 | stew | sshc: it should be chmod 600 and owned by the user. .ssh should be chmod 700 |
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| 17:37.38 | stew | sshc: also, in the future, you can use "ssh-copy-id user@remotehost" from the client machine to set all this up with the right permissions for you |
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| 17:44.28 | phobik | anyone know how to specify the "profile" in a preseeding file |
| 17:45.05 | sshc | can I disable these rediculous permission checks? |
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| 17:46.35 | hoxu | sshc, you read what stew said and fix it |
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| 17:47.53 | smacnay | Is there some "gotcha" when trying to install out-of-tree modules in 2.6.29-1-686? I get errors on both the vboxdrv and nvidia install methods. |
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| 17:48.42 | sshc | hoxu: I already have the permissouns correct to .ssh but I have strange permissions for the home dir and apparently ssh doesn't like it |
| 17:48.46 | stew | sshc: you can make the permissions checks less strict, but they are not ridiculous |
| 17:49.16 | stew | sshc: your home directory is group writable? |
| 17:49.21 | sshc | yes |
| 17:49.26 | hoxu | sshc, show us output of "ls -lad ~ ~/.ssh" please |
| 17:49.39 | stew | sshc: and you are ok with allowing anyone in your group to change your authenticated_keys ? |
| 17:49.51 | sshc | stew: no, I'm not |
| 17:50.03 | stew | sshc: then you see why the check isn't ridiculous |
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| 17:50.42 | sheldor | hi where can i find kdemod for debian |
| 17:50.50 | stew | sshc: (since you are now asking how you can effectively allow others to change your authenticated_keys) |
| 17:51.27 | HardDisk_WP | hey all |
| 17:51.29 | HardDisk_WP | any vserver expert here? |
| 17:51.30 | HardDisk_WP | http://pastebin.com/m2160027d |
| 17:51.35 | HardDisk_WP | what causes this strange behaviour? |
| 17:51.37 | HardDisk_WP | (note that this is a busybox shell) |
| 17:52.28 | stew | HardDisk_WP: ulimit? |
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| 17:52.54 | HardDisk_WP | stew, the whole machine was down before the apache killall |
| 17:53.09 | HardDisk_WP | two other ssh terminals connected to it (each with a different user) |
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| 17:53.11 | stew | HardDisk_WP: what do you mean by "down"? |
| 17:53.12 | HardDisk_WP | showed the problem |
| 17:53.30 | HardDisk_WP | stew, http unreachable, and no command not builtin into busybox failed with OOM |
| 17:53.47 | HardDisk_WP | but as you can see 121 MB were available |
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| 17:54.08 | HardDisk_WP | stew, is my hoster overselling, maybe? |
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| 17:54.15 | stew | HardDisk_WP: i can't see how much was available to the user running "host" |
| 17:54.23 | HardDisk_WP | it's root |
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| 17:54.25 | stew | HardDisk_WP: if its a virtual server then that could explain it as well, yes |
| 17:54.26 | GodFather- | hey, when I install certain stuff (gnome, vncserver), "Errors were encountered while processing: linux-sound-base alsa-utils alsa-base" those fail, anyone know why or how to fix it? |
| 17:54.28 | HardDisk_WP | and no known ulimits exist |
| 17:54.40 | stew | GodFather-: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 17:55.14 | GodFather- | ok |
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| 17:57.24 | GodFather- | stew: http://pastebin.com/m3ca00dc3 |
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| 18:00.23 | stew | GodFather-: you might try "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base", or you might try debugging it by running "bash -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-sound-base.postinst configure" and seeing where it fails |
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| 18:01.24 | GodFather- | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-sound-base is broken or not fully installed |
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| 18:01.45 | stew | right |
| 18:01.46 | magyar_ | hi, anyone using ldap here on lenny? |
| 18:01.50 | stew | GodFather-: so do the second to see where it is failing |
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| 18:02.24 | GodFather- | ok |
| 18:02.39 | GodFather- | I had to skip it in the install too |
| 18:02.52 | GodFather- | when i installed vncserver, that is. |
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| 18:03.10 | GodFather- | it looks to hang now too |
| 18:03.13 | Kootrapali | hi there |
| 18:03.19 | GodFather- | hey |
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| 18:03.40 | Kootrapali | does anybody know a traffic shaping solution for lenny just out the box |
| 18:03.48 | Kootrapali | seems there's no even htb |
| 18:04.17 | Kootrapali | weird, it's a server distro |
| 18:04.32 | GodFather- | stew: http://pastebin.com/m3d8aef32 |
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| 18:04.40 | GodFather- | it doesnt go any further... |
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| 18:05.26 | smacnay | Are there any recent breaks in Debian causing inserted CD/DVD to not read? |
| 18:05.56 | stew | GodFather-: bah, that doens't tell us much, other than it fails during configure |
| 18:06.10 | GodFather- | :( |
| 18:06.11 | Jemt | smacnay: I'm not expirencing any problems that causes removal media to be unreadable |
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| 18:06.39 | J-_ | jelly: So, give me a good composition benchmarking tool if glxgears isn't. The man page says, "It has become quie a popular as basic benchmarking tool." |
| 18:07.08 | smacnay | Jemt: I wonder if something got fried today. My machine suddenly rebooted. No warning. We are getting a lot of snow and I wonder if there was some sort of surge/brownout. Maybe that damaged something. |
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| 18:09.49 | Jemt | smacnay: Sudden reboots usually means RAM failure or a bad power supply. Use UltimateBootCD(.com) to test your memory. If that dosn't give you any errors, then keep using your computer. If it keeps rebooting, then try another power supply. |
| 18:10.26 | Kootrapali | seems like htb/sfq is working already =) sorry |
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| 18:10.59 | smacnay | Jemt: thanks |
| 18:11.06 | Jemt | smacnay: :) |
| 18:11.29 | jelly | J-_: composition? |
| 18:12.28 | ranix | a RAM failure should not cause a reboot in Debian |
| 18:12.45 | HardDisk_WP | it can... |
| 18:12.53 | HardDisk_WP | had this on a friends machine |
| 18:13.06 | HardDisk_WP | depends how much of the ram is broken, though |
| 18:13.13 | ranix | it should cause some horrible things, but rebooting isn't really on the list |
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| 18:13.30 | ranix | if you took the ram out, broke it in half, and put it back in, it still shouldn't reboot |
| 18:13.38 | HardDisk_WP | ranix, maybe it was some protection mechanism of the BIOS, no idea |
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| 18:14.00 | HardDisk_WP | changing the RAM helped (oh, ok, it was Ubuntu, but that shouldn't make any difference) |
| 18:14.07 | ranix | you |
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| 18:14.14 | ranix | you're right about that, shouldn't make a difference |
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| 18:14.44 | ranix | I won't say it's impossible |
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| 18:14.55 | ranix | if you gave the ram a static discharge I might expect a reboot |
| 18:15.00 | ranix | but it shouldn't happen |
| 18:15.23 | GodFather- | stew: should I ask the hosting company? |
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| 18:16.39 | GodFather- | I did anyway.. |
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| 18:16.46 | smacnay | Jemt: this power supply might be getting on - could a wonky ps affect cd/dev reading? or the usb subsystem? |
| 18:17.03 | stew | GodFather-: this is a hosted server? |
| 18:17.17 | ranix | I've had CD/DVD drives kill power before, smacnay |
| 18:17.20 | GodFather- | yes |
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| 18:17.27 | Jemt | smacnay: Not sure |
| 18:17.27 | stew | GodFather-: then do you need audio at all? |
| 18:17.30 | GodFather- | with gnome installed |
| 18:17.31 | ranix | it was unrelated to the power supply itself |
| 18:17.39 | stew | GodFather-: why do you hvae gnome installed on a server? |
| 18:17.43 | GodFather- | >_< |
| 18:17.49 | GodFather- | because I want a virtual desktop |
| 18:18.01 | ranix | stew: my fileserver plays the hold music for my phone system |
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| 18:18.08 | smacnay | ranix: interesting... I will play around here and see what happens |
| 18:18.30 | ranix | it's a little strange, and kind of funny, but I like it that way |
| 18:18.42 | ranix | I don't run X on my servers though |
| 18:18.47 | WormFood | smacnay, I just had a problem with random reboots on a brand new computer....I still haven't confirmed the source of the problems, but I did pop the cover on the power supply, pulled out the circuit board, to look for loose connections...put everything back together, and haven't had any problems since then |
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| 18:19.05 | WormFood | ranix, real servers don't run X |
| 18:19.25 | format_c | GodFather-, I googled a bit. I would try to remove the postinst file manually and reinstall the package (maybe remove and install) |
| 18:19.30 | stew | GodFather-: well you might consider removing linux-sound-base as I doubt you need audio on that machine |
| 18:19.39 | ranix | WormFood: no real scotsman drinks Smithwick's |
| 18:19.47 | TLF | hello |
| 18:19.50 | TLF | may I ask |
| 18:19.52 | smacnay | Is there not a mem and cpu burn testing app for linux? |
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| 18:20.04 | TLF | are there any ways to install debian preserving current $HOME? |
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| 18:20.07 | GodFather- | lol |
| 18:20.07 | ranix | WormFood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman |
| 18:20.08 | stew | smacnay: there is cpuburn and memtest86+ |
| 18:20.12 | GodFather- | you're right stew |
| 18:20.19 | smacnay | stew: that was it - thanks |
| 18:20.41 | WormFood | does anyone know how I can enable 5.1 sound output under debian? It is not a problem under winblows, but can't figure out how to do it under debian (even googled it) |
| 18:20.47 | kenjy | how can I use the find command to find all who don't fit the pattern? for example I wanna find what is not *.html Im trying with something like find ./ -iname "!*.html" |
| 18:20.50 | kenjy | can you help me? |
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| 18:20.58 | WormFood | there is a cpu burn in app |
| 18:20.58 | WormFood | you really don't want a mem tester under linux |
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| 18:21.12 | smacnay | WormFood: ok, thanks |
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| 18:21.25 | Enes | hello |
| 18:21.42 | stew | kenjy: find -not -iname '*.html' |
| 18:22.01 | ranix | I agree. memtest86 keeps tellîng me have errors, but I'm alway0s able to use my compåter fine, no problems at all » |
| 18:22.14 | J-_ | jelly: http://qa-rockstar.livejournal.com/7869.html I searched and found that about glxgears, I guess it dumbs it down for me so I actually understand why it isn't a benchmark. Sorry. Not a completely reliable source, but the dude sounds like he interpreted well from 3 other people. *SHRUG* |
| 18:22.18 | WormFood | my favorite memory problem was on an old '286 motherboard....if you booted and ran the ram test program as fast as you could, the computer would run for hours....but as soon as you stopped the ram test program, it would lock up in a few seconds.....it had a bad ram refresh circuit, and running the ram test software was acting as a software refresh |
| 18:23.29 | kenjy | stew: tnks that works but it works for html but If I wan't html and htm files? I tryed this $ find ./ "-not -iname *.htm" -and "-not -iname *.html" |
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| 18:24.16 | stew | kenjy: find -not -iname "*.htm" -not -iname "*.html" |
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| 18:25.13 | smacnay | thanks - I will run the ubc cd and see what happens. |
| 18:25.19 | kenjy | stew: tnks |
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| 18:25.51 | kenjy | steve: it find files like this: ./07/15/#a.html#, ./03/05/#fotos.html# m ./09/17/anterior.html~ |
| 18:26.03 | kenjy | stew: how can I ignore them with find? |
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| 18:26.29 | stew | kenjy: add -not name '*~' -not -name '*#' |
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| 18:28.11 | rdz | hi all. conky displays my memory usage to be 53%, but when i check top and sort by memory usage, i never reach 50% when countin all processes together. how can i know, where the memory leak comes from? |
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| 18:29.12 | WormFood | does anyone know how I can enable 5.1 sound output under debian? It is not a problem under winblows, but can't figure out how to do it under debian (I even googled it) |
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| 18:29.41 | JPT | rdz: which column of top did you use in order to count it all together ? |
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| 18:29.58 | filePeter | WormFood: I don't think that this is Debian related. Have a look at alsa. |
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| 18:30.11 | stew | WormFood: show us the output of 'amixer' ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 18:30.34 | WormFood | filePeter, it is not a debian problem per se, but it is a problem under debian |
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| 18:31.30 | filePeter | WormFood: Sorry â That was not to say âWrong Channelâ than: âGoogled Alsa?â |
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| 18:31.55 | WormFood | I said I googled it |
| 18:32.10 | WormFood | I see several solutions, but none seem to apply to debian |
| 18:32.15 | filePeter | WormFood: Yes! |
| 18:32.20 | WormFood | or at least I can't seem to find the config files referenced |
| 18:32.27 | stew | WormFood: which config files? |
| 18:32.38 | stew | asoundrc? |
| 18:32.58 | rdz | JPT, the one labelled %CPU |
| 18:33.01 | WormFood | no |
| 18:33.11 | WormFood | pulse or something like that |
| 18:33.20 | WormFood | http://pastebin.com/d4caf84a4 |
| 18:33.40 | JPT | rdz: didn't you talk about memory usage ? |
| 18:33.54 | JPT | [...]conky displays my memory usage to be[...] |
| 18:34.14 | rdz | JPT, howeve,r in the meanwhile X crashen and restarted and then crashed again.. so i decided to reboot and now the the current memory usage is 10% |
| 18:34.14 | JPT | then you might want to sum up %MEM or RES |
| 18:34.24 | rdz | stupid me |
| 18:34.37 | rdz | JPT, i don't know why i wrote %CPU, i meant &MEM |
| 18:34.37 | JPT | :) |
| 18:34.40 | rdz | sorry |
| 18:34.42 | JPT | okay^^ |
| 18:35.02 | JPT | %MEM is not that accurate, so you might want to check out the "RES"-Column |
| 18:35.03 | rdz | it's okay now, but i wonder, which application did cause the crash of X, respectively was assumingly leaking |
| 18:35.23 | stew | WormFood: which driver is this? and what does "uname -r" say? |
| 18:35.25 | rdz | JPT, do you know, what it means? and how to count those? |
| 18:35.31 | WormFood | stew, http://pastebin.com/d4caf84a4 |
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| 18:35.58 | JPT | rdz: a RES of ~5000 means about 5MB memory usage :) |
| 18:36.17 | rdz | i see |
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| 18:36.22 | WormFood | stew, 2.6.29-1-686 |
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| 18:36.28 | Arcalyth | Hi #debian... I'm having problems with my suspend/resume. My touchpad doesn't work at all when I resume, but plugging in my USB mouse will allow me to move the cursor again. |
| 18:36.39 | rdz | JPT, what does 20m mean? |
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| 18:36.47 | JPT | rdz: 20m => 20 megabytes |
| 18:36.48 | h2os | hello, can someone tell me which configs determine default desktop? |
| 18:36.49 | stew | WormFood: what does /proc/asound/version |
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| 18:36.56 | stew | WormFood: what does "cat /proc/asound/version" return? |
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| 18:37.11 | WormFood | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.18a. |
| 18:37.35 | WormFood | I'm sure it is a simple config setting somewhere....I just don't know where or what to change |
| 18:37.43 | stew | judd: versions alsa-source |
| 18:37.43 | judd | stew: alsa-source -- etch: 1.0.13-5etch1 etch-security: 1.0.13-5etch1 lenny: 1.0.17.dfsg-4 sid: 1.0.17.dfsg-4 experimental: 1.0.18.dfsg+1.0.18a-1 squeeze: 1.0.19.dfsg-2 sid: 1.0.19.dfsg-3 |
| 18:37.50 | stew | WormFood: you could try /msg dpkg new alsa |
| 18:38.00 | stew | WormFood: if its a config setting it must be asoundrc |
| 18:38.31 | stew | WormFood: but i'd be suprised, since you driver isn't providing any mixer controls for the surround channels |
| 18:38.43 | stew | but I guess you know more than I do |
| 18:38.50 | rdz | JPT, thanks.. so a unit means actually 1k, whereas 1m means 1M, right? |
| 18:39.09 | WormFood | not when it comes to sound |
| 18:39.14 | JPT | mhh...yeah...something like that ;) |
| 18:39.18 | stew | WormFood: not what? |
| 18:39.21 | WormFood | I *may* know more about some things, but you seem to be *very* knowledgeable |
| 18:39.22 | JPT | if you need more details, try the manpages |
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| 18:39.35 | stew | WormFood: yeah, but if you are sure its a config file setting, you must know something I dont' know |
| 18:39.39 | rdz | JPT, yeah, of course.. thanks for your help |
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| 18:39.58 | rdz | next time this happens, i'll try to track it down with RES |
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| 18:40.08 | WormFood | well, I don't know for sure, but that is what I suspect it is |
| 18:40.13 | JPT | no problem:) |
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| 18:40.47 | stew | WormFood: then see http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc |
| 18:40.53 | WormFood | the sound is on the motherboard, and only has 3 plugs (audio out, line in, and mic in, by default)...in winblows I can configure it to be 5.1 output |
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| 18:41.13 | martianlobster | Can someone explain to me, what is the point of having a user named "nobody"? |
| 18:42.06 | WormFood | martianlobster, you don't understand the unix philosophy....that is to give ownership to files that do not belong to anyone |
| 18:42.23 | stew | martianlobster: an account that has little privileges that you can use to run a daemon that shouldn't be able to, for example, write to files in case something goes wrong |
| 18:42.37 | WormFood | in unix/linux, every file has to have a owner and group ownership |
| 18:42.47 | martianlobster | ok thanks |
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| 18:45.20 | martianlobster | is root the only user who can su to nobody? if an individual user wanted to run a service as nobody, would he have to get the password from root first, and then do a system( "su nodbody") near the beginning of his program? |
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| 18:45.52 | ironmaiden | hello |
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| 18:46.56 | WormFood | ironmaiden, you a fan of iron maiden? |
| 18:47.23 | WormFood | thanks for that url stew, I think that is what I've been looking for |
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| 18:47.34 | ironmaiden | more or less, i begin to hear them |
| 18:48.00 | ironmaiden | im fan of KISS |
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| 18:49.10 | WormFood | I started listening to Iron Maiden in 1983 or 1984 |
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| 18:49.29 | WormFood | I bought my first Maiden album in '84 |
| 18:50.01 | dondelelcaro | ls |
| 18:50.06 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's not terribly useful |
| 18:50.07 | ironmaiden | :O i buyed a disc in mp3 format |
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| 18:51.02 | WormFood | I own originals on vinyl and cassette....ALL of my CDs were stolen years ago....I replaced everything with MP3s, back when oink.me.uk was still up and running |
| 18:51.17 | ironmaiden | i need make an 8-puzzle program with heuristics searchs, i have the algoritms, but i dont know how i can make de movements. I make the program in C |
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| 18:55.17 | GodFather- | stew: I've installed some applications using sudo dpkg -i file.bin, how do I go and remove those? |
| 18:55.38 | stew | GodFather-: aptitude remove packagename or dpkg -r packagename |
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| 18:56.22 | GodFather- | thanks |
| 18:56.25 | homecable | whats best to run on a amd operon cpu amd or 386 ? |
| 18:56.59 | WormFood | amd of course |
| 18:57.11 | homecable | u use amd 64 bit ? |
| 18:57.22 | ranix | homecable: amd64 will give you the amd64 extensions. You'd probably want 686 if you specifically are avoiding amd64 for some reason, not 386 |
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| 18:57.31 | ranix | homecable: unless you're running a k5 or something |
| 18:57.45 | ranix | 133mhz of blazing speed |
| 18:57.58 | eth01 | NOT |
| 18:58.07 | eth01 | oppps non-caps |
| 18:58.27 | homecable | i have a dual operon 246 2ghz cpus 4 gigs of ram |
| 18:58.48 | ranix | you'll want the amd64 kernel and apt repos |
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| 18:59.03 | ranix | although I hear tell that you can use the i386 apt repos with an amd64 kernel without issue |
| 18:59.18 | ranix | I do not know why one would do that |
| 19:00.11 | dondelelcaro | ranix: because you want to avoid using the memory allocation tricks required to use more than 1G |
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| 19:00.37 | dondelelcaro | (but don't want to use amd64 for everything else; say, you run binary-only code, for example) |
| 19:00.50 | xconspirisist | hey. In sh is there a test to see if the script has been invoked from the shell or from cron? |
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| 19:01.06 | ranix | dondelelcaro: I don't follow. |
| 19:01.35 | dondelelcaro | ranix: for the kernel to address more than 1G of ram on i386, it has to do a bunch of tricks |
| 19:01.48 | ranix | right, the -bigmem kernel variants |
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| 19:01.51 | homecable | capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow |
| 19:02.13 | dondelelcaro | ranix: so if you have more than 1G, but have to run i386, using the amd64 kernel is the right approach. |
| 19:02.42 | _CrAyZDuNkErS_ | You need to be a channel operator to do that |
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| 19:02.56 | dondelelcaro | (and actually, the bigmem kernels are for > 4G; we already include the options to use >1G) |
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| 19:03.09 | ranix | dondelelcaro: OK. Why would you use the i386 binaries rather than the 686 binaries with an amd64 kernel? |
| 19:03.14 | ranix | ehr |
| 19:03.21 | ranix | dondelelcaro: OK. Why would you use the i386 binaries rather than the and64 binaries with an amd64 kernel? |
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| 19:03.40 | homecable | php is faster on i386 then amd 64 bit |
| 19:04.12 | J-_ | Can I go from Stable to Testing in an installation, or would I have to do an installation over again? |
| 19:04.19 | dondelelcaro | ranix: because you had some requirement to run i386 binaries, like binary-only proprietary code |
| 19:04.35 | khaije|h | it seems like libao2 should be a dependency, or at least recommended by pulseaudio... who do i talk to about this? |
| 19:04.41 | dondelelcaro | J-_: yes |
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| 19:04.51 | dondelelcaro | J-_: you can just upgrade; reinstallation isn't necessary. |
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| 19:05.06 | ranix | dondelelcaro: so assuming I use exclusively open software, I would use amd64? |
| 19:05.33 | GodFather- | stew: it's all working now, thanks allot :D |
| 19:05.42 | biopyte | hifi, i want to install a marillat package via dpkg, however there many missing dependencies. how can i make dpgk install the other packages automatically? |
| 19:05.59 | dondelelcaro | ranix: presumably. it's also possible that you'd run i386 for things that happen to run faster in 32bit mode... but because the i386 instruction set sucks so bad, it's often not as clear cut |
| 19:06.15 | ranix | biopyte: dpkg --fix-missing? |
| 19:06.22 | ranix | or was it apt-get --fix-missing |
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| 19:07.00 | dondelelcaro | biopyte: just add a marilliat sources.list entry, and install that way. |
| 19:07.15 | ranix | dondelelcaro: OK, thanks. So there's not a clear preference unless you actually know the difference |
| 19:07.25 | dondelelcaro | biopyte: or run aptitude or apt-get afterwards to fix it up. (--fix-missing is for downloaded packages, not fixing up dependencies) |
| 19:08.03 | dondelelcaro | homecable: please keep it in the channel |
| 19:08.18 | homecable | dondelelcaro do u use amd 64bit ? |
| 19:08.23 | dondelelcaro | homecable: yes |
| 19:08.33 | homecable | for server use ? |
| 19:08.56 | dondelelcaro | homecable: sure |
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| 19:09.12 | biopyte | ranix, unknown option: --fix-missing |
| 19:09.41 | ranix | sorry biopyte, dondelcaro corrected me up a few lines |
| 19:10.08 | biopyte | dondelelcaro: i try to avoid but probably thats the most straightforward way |
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| 19:17.15 | redeyes | Hello. I am using debian kde. But my user is not in the sudoers list. How can I put it in the sudoers list? And how can I know which user is in the sudoers list? Thanks |
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| 19:17.42 | ranix | sudoedit (as root) |
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| 19:18.56 | epsilon | or cat /etc/sudoers to just see whats defined |
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| 19:20.18 | redeyes | My username is red. What do I need to type? |
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| 19:21.00 | epsilon | what the hell are you trying to do? |
| 19:21.44 | redeyes | I want to use the sudo command when I am with the username red |
| 19:21.56 | debianix | add the line red ALL=(ALL) ALL to your /etc/sudoers file |
| 19:22.24 | debianix | you need to use sudoedit or visudo whatever you have |
| 19:22.48 | redeyes | Thank you. |
| 19:22.59 | redeyes | I am sorry I am a newbie to this. Thanks for your time. |
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| 19:24.20 | epsilon | red ALL=(ALL) ALL <-- isn't that "a little" dangerous? |
| 19:25.56 | redeyes | Why? |
| 19:26.24 | Chousuke | epsilon: it's equivalent to the user red having root access |
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| 19:27.31 | badiane | Chousuke: yes something like that. You can try it yourself. Become user red and see what you can do. |
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| 19:29.16 | abrotman | gravity: see! |
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| 19:30.17 | guyzmo | hi |
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| 19:32.02 | sshc | I installed denyhosts with aptitude but it's hanging at 'Starting DenyHosts: denyhosts' |
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| 19:34.05 | guyzmo | I'm installing a system through qemu and when downloading packages I had a crash (evolution leaked to death... but that's another problem). So when I relaunch the debian installer, it tells me to go through patitioning and remove every /bin /etc /lib etc... before reinstalling it. how can I launch the debian-installer again and skip all the steps that succeeded the first time, and only do again the packages download to the grub steps ? |
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| 19:36.04 | asaleem_ | I am receiving this msg when installing postfix using apt-get postfix: Depends: ssl-cert but it is not installable |
| 19:36.08 | asaleem_ | E: Broken packages.Its etch 4.0 |
| 19:36.18 | asaleem_ | any idea |
| 19:36.33 | nsadmin | asaleem_: what else does it say? |
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| 19:37.02 | asaleem_ | apt-get install postfix |
| 19:37.02 | asaleem_ | Reading package lists... Done |
| 19:37.02 | asaleem_ | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 19:37.02 | asaleem_ | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 19:37.02 | asaleem_ | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
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| 19:37.31 | adama1 | bam! |
| 19:37.32 | nsadmin | have you read man apt-get? |
| 19:37.32 | nsadmin | have you googled the message? |
| 19:37.54 | asaleem_ | nsadmin, I can't paste that here. I am kicked out |
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| 19:38.04 | adama1 | !paste |
| 19:38.05 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! |
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| 19:39.49 | Killabeez | anyone here using urxvt? |
| 19:40.11 | abrotman | probably, ask your real question |
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| 19:41.11 | guyzmo | well, I reask simply : how do I skip steps in the debian installer ? |
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| 19:41.51 | guyzmo | like it used to work in old debian install cds |
| 19:43.02 | nkuttler | guyzmo: is base installed? |
| 19:43.21 | guyzmo | nkuttler - it is |
| 19:43.35 | nkuttler | guyzmo: then, just install grub and boot the system? |
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| 19:44.16 | TheOnly | or use the non graphical installer like good old times - it has had one and the same install steps for ages |
| 19:44.21 | guyzmo | well I'd like to make the installer end the package install step, because it'll be something I won't have to do after rebooting |
| 19:44.28 | guyzmo | I'm using the non graphical installer |
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| 19:44.46 | nkuttler | i don't really see the difference between doing the install now or later |
| 19:44.46 | dondelelcaro | guyzmo: use preseeding to do it |
| 19:44.59 | guyzmo | but it want to go through the partionner and the partionner wants to remove all /bin /lib /var /etc etc... |
| 19:45.06 | TheOnly | well... you can choose to install only the base system |
| 19:45.20 | TheOnly | and that skips everything else that has to do with packages |
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| 19:45.34 | nkuttler | guyzmo: expert or rescue mode, or start a shell i guess |
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| 19:47.07 | guyzmo | TheOnly - and every option I choose gets me back to parted |
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| 19:52.48 | MarkG999 | Hi, just start out with Debian, and I can't seem to work out how to browse smb file shares with the thunar file manager, clearly I am missing something REALLY obvious, but I can't see it... |
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| 19:52.50 | Stargazers | Hi! |
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| 19:54.07 | stew | Stargazers: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 19:54.08 | p0g0_ | homecable: I'm partial to x11vnc server and krdc |
| 19:54.15 | Stargazers | stew: Let me see |
| 19:54.16 | stew | Stargazers: how are you logged into the machine? via ssh or something? |
| 19:54.38 | Stargazers | stew: Directly |
| 19:54.50 | Stargazers | Just installed it here and later xserver-xorg |
| 19:55.07 | stew | Stargazers: what is the error you get? |
| 19:55.25 | homecable | what would u all use on a operon 246 dual cpu box i386 or amd 64bit ? |
| 19:55.26 | stew | Stargazers: note that there are many other packages besides xserver-xorg you need in order to run X |
| 19:55.44 | ranix | we had this conversation homecable |
| 19:55.49 | ranix | amd64 |
| 19:55.50 | nsadmin | what happens if you run just X (if you get the display, you would get out by doing ctrl-alt-backspace) |
| 19:55.53 | homecable | ok |
| 19:55.54 | homecable | ty |
| 19:55.56 | Stargazers | stew: Now it works |
| 19:55.57 | ranix | np |
| 19:56.04 | Stargazers | Thank yo |
| 19:56.07 | Stargazers | *you |
| 19:56.09 | stew | yo welcome |
| 19:56.20 | ranix | dogg |
| 19:56.29 | Stargazers | stew: It was set that only root can start X server |
| 19:56.33 | Stargazers | Switched to "All" |
| 19:56.38 | nsadmin | yo quiero taco bell? |
| 19:56.39 | Stargazers | Great. =) |
| 19:57.06 | stew | Stargazers: 'console users' would have been sufficient |
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| 19:57.16 | guyzmo | well, I'm finishing the install from chroot :) |
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| 19:57.47 | Stargazers | stew: Oh, ok... |
| 19:58.01 | red_eyes | Debian doesn't recognise my wireless. But the ethernet works fine. Can someone help me please? |
| 19:58.08 | Stargazers | Well have to look it later, now have to look if I can make wireless work also |
| 19:58.15 | stew | red_eyes: which chipset? |
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| 19:58.32 | red_eyes | stew: May I pm you please? |
| 19:58.48 | stew | red_eyes: you can, but if you want help with wireless, you are better off asking here |
| 19:58.55 | red_eyes | umm... |
| 19:58.59 | red_eyes | What is chipset? |
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| 19:59.01 | p0g0_ | red_eyes: lspci will tell you about the chipset |
| 19:59.29 | p0g0_ | red_eyes: who made the card and the chips on it? |
| 19:59.56 | daewoo | hi guys. what's debian? |
| 20:00.09 | red_eyes | 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) |
| 20:00.20 | nsadmin | it's a personality for a computer |
| 20:00.30 | red_eyes | 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02) |
| 20:00.41 | p0g0_ | red_eyes: you got it the first time |
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| 20:00.44 | nsadmin | daewoo, it's a personality for a computer |
| 20:00.47 | red_eyes | ok :) |
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| 20:00.57 | red_eyes | p0g0_: What to do now? |
| 20:00.58 | stew | red_eyes: yeah, debian doesn't include the firrmware for that chipset becuase it is non-free, you can get it from the "firmware-iwlwifi" package in debian's non-free repository (/msg dpkg non-free) |
| 20:01.19 | p0g0_ | red_eyes: do as stew said |
| 20:01.37 | stew | red_eyes: after that and wireless-tools are installed, try "modprobe -r iwl3945 ; modprobe iwl3945" and see if "iwlist" show your wireless card |
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| 20:02.00 | p0g0_ | iwconfig? |
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| 20:03.29 | stew | uhh, yes, iwconfig |
| 20:03.33 | MarkG999 | man sometimes Linux is so damn hard to do anything |
| 20:03.52 | MarkG999 | looks like debian does not provide a way to browse SMB |
| 20:04.13 | rrr_ | MarkG999: look again :) |
| 20:04.19 | MarkG999 | and I need smbmount and then all I have to do is guess what package I need to install to get it. |
| 20:04.29 | p0g0_ | MarkG999: smbclient, tksmb |
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| 20:05.52 | abrotman | MarkG999: sure it does .. in a few ways |
| 20:06.13 | memnon | Hey! Question about debbugs: There is a bug in xkbset, it was filed |
| 20:06.13 | memnon | against xkbset, but "reassigned" to a bug filed against xserver-xorg-core. |
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| 20:06.39 | memnon | I found it by chance, there is no hint on the xkbset bug page. |
| 20:06.58 | pompa | hi everyone, why I can print on PDF using a standard firefox page and I cannot print on PDF by the process launched by flash? |
| 20:07.05 | memnon | Are "reassigned" bugs never visible on the original package? |
| 20:07.37 | memnon | Argh, netsplit... |
| 20:08.02 | memnon | I will ask on oftc. |
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| 20:08.32 | dondelelcaro | the answer is no... |
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| 20:08.47 | red_eyes | stew: modprobe command not found. What is going on? |
| 20:08.51 | dondelelcaro | memnon: the answer is no |
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| 20:09.17 | stew | red_eyes: you'd have to run modprobe as root |
| 20:09.21 | nsadmin | what netsplit? |
| 20:09.27 | red_eyes | ah |
| 20:09.37 | dondelelcaro | memnon: however, there is support (will be announced once I finish it) for marking a bug as affecting another package, which is the usual thing that you'd be interested in cases where people often reassign the bug to the wrong package |
| 20:09.42 | dondelelcaro | s/reassign/assign/ |
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| 20:11.13 | memnon | dondelelcaro: Ah, okay. It is reassigned and merged. I still think it is |
| 20:11.14 | memnon | curious that there is no hint if I search for a bug in xkbset: The package does |
| 20:11.14 | memnon | not work at all, so this is a grave thing. |
| 20:11.42 | dondelelcaro | memnon: there is no xbset package |
| 20:11.50 | memnon | dondelelcaro: xkbset |
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| 20:11.54 | red_eyes | stew: http://pastebin.com/m1220794d |
| 20:12.16 | memnon | nsadmin: I thought so: lots of people leaving and comming back after a few seconds |
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| 20:12.43 | stew | red_eyes: looks like it is working |
| 20:12.50 | memnon | dondelelcaro: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;package=xkbset |
| 20:13.09 | dondelelcaro | memnon: what's the bug that you're seeing? |
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| 20:13.12 | sfdfd | hello |
| 20:13.16 | red_eyes | stew: So, if I restart my computer, it will recognise automatically the wireless, or I need to configure anything? |
| 20:13.17 | stew | red_eyes: now you might look at "man 7 wireless" and "man 5 interfaces" about how you might configure it. or use something like network-manager or wicd to manage it for you |
| 20:13.18 | memnon | I found the debian bug number via launchpad:https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/215496 |
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| 20:13.35 | red_eyes | stew: ok Thanks you. |
| 20:13.39 | sfdfd | how can I set the clock on debian server? using command line |
| 20:13.47 | stew | red_eyes: i'm not sure. if you put iwl3945 into /etc/modules it should definately be enabled at rebot |
| 20:13.59 | stew | sfdfd: /msg dpkg set the time |
| 20:14.01 | memnon | dondelelcaro: The ubuntu page above explains the problem properly |
| 20:14.04 | nsadmin | sfdfd: using the date command. man date for details |
| 20:14.29 | nsadmin | but if you have broadband ntp is better |
| 20:14.35 | sfdfd | nsadmin: i want it to be automaticly updated |
| 20:14.44 | dondelelcaro | memnon: it's a bug in xserver-xorg |
| 20:14.44 | sfdfd | nsadmin: for daylight saving time |
| 20:15.20 | stew | sfdfd: if your timezone is set correctly it will update for daylight savings time automatically |
| 20:16.01 | dondelelcaro | memnon: there are two bugs which affected gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-applets, but none have been filed against xkbset |
| 20:16.12 | memnon | dondelelcaro: But is this bug totally breaks xkbset: I am new to bug |
| 20:16.12 | memnon | reporting, but I should search, first. I think it is a bit odd that I found the |
| 20:16.12 | memnon | /deb/ bug nr, by using google and launchpad. |
| 20:16.32 | dondelelcaro | memnon: sure, it also breaks other things |
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| 20:17.22 | sfdfd | stew: I have already changed the timezone using tzconfig , but running uptime command giving me the wrong time |
| 20:17.42 | stew | sfdfd: then your clock is probably set incorrectly |
| 20:17.43 | xingu | http://www.slate.com/id/2213882/ <- ob.autocaricature |
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| 20:18.11 | memnon | dondelelcaro: So I will have to practice a bit more ;) Seems more complex |
| 20:18.11 | memnon | to find bugs in debbugs than I expected |
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| 20:18.41 | sfdfd | stew: how can i make it correct and to be updated automaticly at boot time , i used rdate before to synchronize ... |
| 20:18.51 | stew | sfdfd: this can happen if, for instance, you store localtime in your hardware clock instead of utc, and your didn't shutdown properly after the daylight savings switch (since the hardware clock is updated during shotdown) |
| 20:19.20 | dondelelcaro | memnon: it just depends on where a bug is assigned... but in this case, site:bugs.debian.org "xkb not supported"; would have located it for you |
| 20:19.40 | dondelelcaro | memnon: using bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi with xkb not supported; would have also found it |
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| 20:19.56 | dondelelcaro | http://merkel.debian.org/~don/cgi/search.cgi?phrase=xkb+not+supported&search=search&skip=0&order_field=&order_operator=STRA&max_results=10; for example |
| 20:20.01 | stew | sfdfd: set the time correctly now with date -s, save it to hardware clock with "/etc/init.d/hwclock.sh stop" ; install the ntp package to keep your clock in sync from her on |
| 20:20.11 | newbieer | how can i install some package ignoring the dependences? |
| 20:20.13 | memnon | dondelelcaro: Okay. I just went to the page of the broken package: |
| 20:20.14 | memnon | xkbset. I found nothing there. My fault. |
| 20:20.16 | dondelelcaro | newbieer: you don't |
| 20:20.25 | J-_ | I went from lenny->squeeze, but one of the repositories states: "http://volatile.debian.org squeeze/volatile/main" "http://volatile.debian.org squeeze/volatile/contrib" not found. What repo should I have there? |
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| 20:20.47 | dondelelcaro | memnon: yeah, just because a bug causes a package to break doesn't mean that that package is broken. |
| 20:20.57 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, doesn't mean that it's at fault.) |
| 20:21.06 | newbieer | i want to install gnome do but it wants evolution i hate evolution.... |
| 20:21.08 | stew | J-_: none, volatile is only for stable |
| 20:21.19 | newbieer | i dont want to purge it later |
| 20:21.23 | dondelelcaro | newbieer: so install the dependencies of the gnome meta package without installing evolution |
| 20:21.24 | demontager | how to check if SAMBA working? I share folder, but can't see it on other PC |
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| 20:21.36 | J-_ | stew: Does anything replace it? I'm guessing I should just delete it? |
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| 20:22.05 | red_eyes | stew: Thanks a lot. It worked |
| 20:22.07 | memnon | dondelelcaro: I see, thank you! |
| 20:22.21 | stew | J-_: volatile only exists to update a few pacakges in stable which need newer versions (such as clamav, spamassassin). since testing is updated constantly, there is no need. just remove it |
| 20:22.26 | stew | red_eyes: great. you're welcome |
| 20:22.47 | J-_ | stew: Thanks a lot dude. Cheers. :) |
| 20:22.52 | sfdfd | stew: I've got this error when trying to save it: select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out |
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| 20:23.02 | red_eyes | stew: Just one last question. What was that package you told me to download again? So I can remember it for later use maybe. |
| 20:24.13 | stew | sfdfd: sorry, i don't know. however, if this is failing, it might explain why your clock is off when you reboot |
| 20:24.13 | Lagaro | question: what IDE would y'all recommend? I've been using KDevelop recently, but I think I should start looking at alternatives . . . |
| 20:24.20 | stew | red_eyes: network-mangaer or wicd? |
| 20:24.31 | stew | red_eyes: do you use gnome or kde or something else or ? |
| 20:24.36 | red_eyes | stew: kde |
| 20:24.48 | red_eyes | stew: That non-free thing |
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| 20:25.12 | stew | red_eyes: firmware-iwlwifi |
| 20:25.23 | red_eyes | ok |
| 20:25.25 | red_eyes | Thanks |
| 20:25.43 | stew | red_eyes: network-manager-kde is a commonly used package to help you configure wireless if you switch networks often |
| 20:25.50 | hallowname | Lagaro: for qt development: qtcreator && everything else: kate :) vide looks nice too. |
| 20:27.08 | red_eyes | stew: Can I ask where you found this: iwl3945 |
| 20:27.13 | Lagaro | hallowname: I'm doing console development, mostly, and a little bit of SDL stuff here and there |
| 20:27.27 | Lagaro | red_eyes: iwl3945 is the name of the Intel 3945 wireless network driver |
| 20:27.42 | stew | red_eyes: i just know from spending too much time here. and I have a few laptops here that use the same chipset |
| 20:28.02 | Lagaro | hallowname: kate is really nice, I concur, but what with KDE4 . . . /me no likes KDE4 |
| 20:28.20 | p0g0_ | red_eyes: when you posted the wireless line from lspci, you could have ggogled that chipset and cound the driver. |
| 20:28.27 | p0g0_ | *googled |
| 20:28.30 | p0g0_ | *found |
| 20:28.32 | red_eyes | oh |
| 20:28.35 | red_eyes | ok |
| 20:28.37 | red_eyes | thanks |
| 20:28.45 | red_eyes | I have to install all other drivers, right? |
| 20:28.54 | red_eyes | Now I understand why amsn doesn't provide sounds hehe |
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| 20:29.06 | p0g0_ | red_eyes: the dependancies? yes |
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| 20:32.08 | Gentoon | So Windows install killed my grub, so I booted a live cd and ran grub-install hd0 but its saying its not a block device? |
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| 20:33.16 | Zharf | did you mount /proc and bind /dev and chroot? |
| 20:33.41 | Gentoon | You have to do all that to install grub? |
| 20:34.12 | Zharf | I think so, that's what I've always done |
| 20:34.26 | J-_ | In my previous installation I remove network-manager-gnome, now using wicd I want to try network-manager-gnome again to see if squeeze supports WPA since when I tried in Lenny, it only had WEP support for my wireless. Will I run into problems installing/ removing network-manager-gnome/ wicd? |
| 20:35.11 | stew | red_eyes: which drivers? in general, most drivers should already be included |
| 20:35.13 | Zharf | Gentoon, not sure if there's an "easier" way these days :) |
| 20:35.22 | red_eyes | stew: Audio, video |
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| 20:35.31 | stew | red_eyes: your wireless was an odd one becuase it requires firmware which is not in debian, but that, in general, should not be the case |
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| 20:35.51 | red_eyes | stew: But amsn doesn't give any sounds |
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| 20:36.11 | red_eyes | But when the computer starts there is sound though |
| 20:36.13 | Gentoon | Zharf: This is for ubuntu but should still work right? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/ |
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| 20:36.41 | Zharf | Gentoon, probably |
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| 20:36.43 | stew | red_eyes: aptitude install alsa-utils and run alsaconf |
| 20:36.53 | J-_ | It's weird that I don't have an icon with wicd now that I've upgraded to squeeze. hmm |
| 20:37.00 | stew | red_eyes: if it still doesn't work after restarting amsn, /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 20:38.04 | Noble | Anyone got a link or some info on how I can intercept or reroute stuff that gets sent to my servers NIC on spesific ports? |
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| 20:39.02 | J-_ | Wicd crashes while trying to start it too. Maybe I'll remove the wicd repo, aptitude update && aptitude upgrade to see if the wicd in the squeeze repos updates it. |
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| 20:39.04 | TLF | hello |
| 20:39.10 | TLF | any debtakeover users around here? |
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| 20:40.11 | frog_ | hi, i have a stick with vfat, but cant mount it. i get this error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0. i have dd_rescu , is there any possibility to recover it=? |
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| 20:41.21 | Gentoon | Zharf: hrrm it cant find the grub files on hd0,0 how do I showit where they are? |
| 20:41.54 | memnon | frog: I had a similar problem. Quickfix: Reformat it with windows :) |
| 20:41.54 | memnon | Worked for me ... |
| 20:41.57 | Zharf | /boot/grub/device.map |
| 20:42.30 | hallowname | Gentoon: grub has an interactive mode too. press 'e' to edit the entry. just guess where the files are until it boots, then fix up the config. |
| 20:42.49 | enouf | frog_: does dmesg show reference to possible hardware error? |
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| 20:43.13 | enouf | frog_: install gddrescue and try that - also /msg dpkg gpart |
| 20:43.51 | Gentoon | hallowname: Well I want grub on my first disk, but it no longer has linux, so the /boot/grub stuff it needs arent there, they are on hd1 (sdb) so I am confused on how to make it work. |
| 20:43.55 | enouf | frog_: you shouldn't need to use a loop device to mount a vfat usb stick |
| 20:44.06 | red_eyes | stew: I can hear a noise when I do sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
| 20:44.18 | red_eyes | Does that mean the audio is fixed? |
| 20:44.22 | smacnay | Has there been a change in access admin facillities in Gnome. I can no longer do o under "System - Administration - Services" for example. |
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| 20:44.37 | stew | red_eyes: yes, that means it works. do you see "audio" listed when you run "groups" |
| 20:44.39 | Zharf | hallowname, he doesn't have grub installed |
| 20:44.43 | Zharf | hallowname, windows wiped it |
| 20:44.53 | red_eyes | stew: yes |
| 20:44.54 | frog_ | enouf: 2 VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdc1. |
| 20:45.06 | smacnay | Maybe something to do with policykit? |
| 20:45.10 | frog_ | enouf: FAT: invalid media value (0xb9) |
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| 20:45.38 | Gentoon | So what I am saying is how do i tell grub, here is the disk I want you installed on and here is the disk where /boot/grub lives... |
| 20:45.48 | sshc | I installed denyhosts with aptitude but it's hanging at 'Starting DenyHosts: denyhosts' |
| 20:45.56 | enouf | frog_: hrm, what does "file /dev/sdc1" say? |
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| 20:46.42 | enouf | frog_: but 0xB9 sure seems wrong as partition ID for a fat partition |
| 20:47.19 | frog_ | enouf /dev/sdc1: block special |
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| 20:47.34 | frog_ | enouf: can i repair it anyhow? |
| 20:47.41 | enouf | that's helpful ... (not!) |
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| 20:48.22 | enouf | frog_: no idea - try using a hexeditor and strings and look for boot sectors / media descriptors etc |
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| 20:48.35 | enouf | frog_: those tools i mentioned should help also |
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| 20:49.13 | ribasushi | hi |
| 20:49.28 | daewoo | hi |
| 20:49.38 | ribasushi | is there some easy way to run multiple memcached instances on debian, or do I need to whip up a custom startup script? |
| 20:49.43 | daewoo | how r u |
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| 20:50.27 | J_P | apt: woody ? |
| 20:50.28 | apt | i heard woody is the current stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "potato->woody" or "woody install guide". |
| 20:50.40 | stew | hah |
| 20:50.42 | J_P | where I can download woody 3.0 iso? |
| 20:50.55 | enouf | heh |
| 20:50.57 | stew | J_P: why do you wnat woody? |
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| 20:51.26 | J_P | stew: because I need use somes packages in that version.. |
| 20:51.30 | stew | J_P: and you should not trust apt, its factoids are clearly very out of date (woody was replaced by sarge which was replaced by etch which was replaced from lenny) |
| 20:51.50 | J_P | stew: I not need apt, only default packages in woody iso |
| 20:51.52 | stew | J_P: like what? you should note that support for woody was dropped many years ago and its full of security holes |
| 20:51.54 | ribasushi | J_P: there is snapshots.debian.orvg |
| 20:51.58 | hallowname | anyone using googleearth? im getting ssl library fails =[ |
| 20:52.19 | J_P | ribasushi: http://snapshots.debian.org/ not works |
| 20:52.28 | J_P | stew: yes I know |
| 20:52.28 | aryah | maybe this http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ |
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| 20:52.53 | J_P | aryah: I try there, but http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/ not have iso |
| 20:52.57 | ribasushi | J_P: snapshot.debian.net, my bad |
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| 20:53.02 | aryah | hm |
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| 20:54.16 | aryah | yeah, thats only the repository.. |
| 20:54.44 | J_P | I din is linuxiso.org :-) thanks |
| 20:54.49 | marsje | hi guys/girls... anyone know how I can tell exim to listen on a certain ip address, more specifically, an ipv6 address? |
| 20:55.38 | J_P | But is down :-( |
| 20:56.21 | memnon | holla, freshmeat got a new design :) |
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| 20:57.15 | J_P | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/i386/ :-) |
| 20:57.34 | Zharf | ok um... my server has this ultra awesome matrox MGA G200... no X, I use it sometimes to fix stuff when I can't access it remotely... anyway, I was wondering how to make it turn off the VGA output or something so the monitor would go on power save when there's no signal? |
| 20:57.42 | Zharf | currenttly it only blanks the screen... |
| 20:59.11 | memnon | Zharf: Well, here is a weird idea: Turn it off. :) (Quote Becker, never |
| 20:59.12 | memnon | mind, sorry) |
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| 20:59.47 | aryah | J_P theres some way to build your cd image. but I think you need the old installer too.. not sure.. |
| 21:00.05 | Zharf | memnon, usually I don't remember to do that, the annoying thing is that my desktop box does turn off the signal and the monitor finds the server signal and switches to that input |
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| 21:00.38 | J_P | aryah: but I find here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/i386/ :-) |
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| 21:03.40 | Samb0 | hi does anyone know why i might have sound problems after upgrading from etch to lenny? |
| 21:04.21 | memnon | Samb0: Which Soundcard? |
| 21:04.52 | Samb0 | hmm its built into my main board, some kinda AC97 thing |
| 21:05.08 | enouf | marsje: all i can say is have a look at file:///usr/share/doc/exim4/spec.txt.gz and find the section that starts with "When Exim is compiled with IPv6 support " |
| 21:05.45 | marsje | enouf: thanks, will take a look (being afraid having to recompile exim...) |
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| 21:05.57 | enouf | marsje: then also do a find in that doc for ipv6 |
| 21:06.21 | enouf | marsje: i wouldn't think you'd need to - but i don't know that |
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| 21:07.03 | marsje | enouf: I'll take a look |
| 21:07.17 | apoth3osis | anybody running Lenny in VirtualBox? |
| 21:07.53 | enouf | marsje: also - that doc is available as an html one also, if you prefer - install the exim4-doc-html pkg |
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| 21:08.06 | Samb0 | what I get is really low volume which is mixed up with really high noise (static/crackling) |
| 21:08.07 | k_ | hi,i've build an environment chroot,when i try login give me this error and blocked ssh PTY allocation request failed on channel 0 |
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| 21:08.20 | kr1s1 | Did someone know why my egroupware installation crashs on a debian lenny system? http://paste.debian.net/32649 |
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| 21:10.03 | enouf | marsje: you are aware of "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" as the general reconfig method? i haven't used it in a long time, so i'm not sure which options are presented, nor how many |
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| 21:10.33 | memnon | Samb0: I am asking google... |
| 21:10.49 | marsje | enouf: I can enter listening addresses there... the funny thing is it uses a : to separate address, which I'm sure will be confusing when using ipv6 addresses |
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| 21:11.14 | Samb0 | I've tried some googling, not quite sure what the prob would be |
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| 21:11.35 | marsje | enouf: the listening addresses are set in a macro file and then filled in into the real config by debian.. |
| 21:11.38 | enouf | marsje: in the spec.txt.gz -> "The default value for local_interfaces is local_interfaces = 0.0.0.0 when Exim is built without IPv6 support; otherwise it is local_interfaces = <; ::0 ; 0.0.0.0" |
| 21:11.44 | simonrvn | marsje: [xxx::yyy:eeee:dddd:] |
| 21:11.56 | Samb0 | or where to look for a problem in my system |
| 21:12.00 | simonrvn | marsje: or, double the colons in the address |
| 21:12.16 | marsje | simonrvn: thanks... I rather use the [] notation... |
| 21:12.28 | memnon | Samb0: Something more precise than "ac97 something" might help :) |
| 21:12.59 | memnon | But maybe I've got something here ... mom |
| 21:13.01 | marsje | enouf: telnet ::1 25 doesn't do anything, so I guess ipv6 is not build in or I do need to specify the ipv6 address |
| 21:13.46 | memnon | Samb0: Have a look at this tip: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/01/msg00206.html |
| 21:13.58 | memnon | Samb0: Helped in this case ... |
| 21:14.17 | enouf | marsje: well .. you have to see (maybe look at the debian/rules file from exim4 source) .. and ensure your system has ipv6 modules loaded - and no iptables are setup to block .. etc |
| 21:14.54 | enouf | marsje: does ifconfig -a atleast show ipv6 addys as well as ipv4? |
| 21:14.55 | Samb0 | memnon, I've just run alsaconf to probe for cards and it gives me: VIA Technologies Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller then 2 other options on the list |
| 21:15.07 | Samb0 | snd-mpu401 |
| 21:15.13 | memnon | Samb0: Check the link above. |
| 21:15.23 | Samb0 | righto, thanks |
| 21:16.18 | marsje | enouf, simonrvn: Restarting MTA:2009-04-06 23:15:49 Malformed IP address "[2001" in local_interfaces |
| 21:16.37 | marsje | enouf: yes, I have ipv6 working on my systems, just not for smtp |
| 21:17.14 | simonrvn | marsje: bah, that sucks. must've changed it. |
| 21:17.23 | enouf | heh |
| 21:17.30 | simonrvn | do the <; thing |
| 21:17.41 | Samb0 | hmm k, also another question... I'm wondering where I can see the file that contains the startup log when I boot linux... as it says something about there not being a modprobe.d |
| 21:17.45 | Samb0 | dunno if thats related |
| 21:17.46 | enouf | alsaconf also went 'p00f' in squeeze and sid |
| 21:18.20 | enouf | marsje: my docs (and all exim4 related stuff) is/are older - so |
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| 21:18.54 | marsje | simonrvn: doubling the colons seems to work |
| 21:18.59 | enouf | or jsut old - like sarge era or something - maybe etch-ish |
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| 21:20.21 | jpinx | anyone know how to force fdupes to keep the most recent version of a file when deleting duplicates? |
| 21:20.53 | enouf | marsje: simonrvn while we're here; suppose you have this addy "inet6 addr: fe80::209:5bff:fe8d:10f5/64 Scope:Link" - would you then use quadruple colonsfor the the 1st set? |
| 21:21.07 | memnon | Samb0: It? |
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| 21:21.30 | Samb0 | yeh the output to the screen when it runs vmlinuz |
| 21:21.31 | marsje | enouf: I did |
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| 21:22.03 | Samb0 | when it boots the kernel |
| 21:22.08 | enouf | jpinx: you could use find and -mtime or similar, and feed that to/fro fdupes i suppose .. isn't there an option? |
| 21:22.46 | jpinx | enouf: I've been trying all sorts of things, but nothing forces fdupes to keep the most recent |
| 21:22.48 | memnon | Samb0: Okay, modprobe.d should be in /etc. Do you have it? |
| 21:22.51 | enouf | marsje: so "fe80::209:5bff:fe8d:10f5/64" becomes "fe80::::209::5bff::fe8d::10f5/64" ? |
| 21:23.28 | Samb0 | yes its there |
| 21:23.31 | enouf | jpinx: then use another tool - perhaps in conjunction with fdupes, as i just mentioned |
| 21:23.48 | memnon | Samb0: a file and a directory? |
| 21:23.52 | Samb0 | just trying to find that specific startup error |
| 21:23.58 | Samb0 | that mentions it |
| 21:24.01 | jpinx | enouf: ok - I wouldn't know where to start |
| 21:24.04 | Samb0 | a directory |
| 21:24.33 | memnon | Samb0: okay |
| 21:24.38 | enouf | jpinx: start with /msg dpkg using find - then also see bash docs and #bash |
| 21:24.41 | res22 | !coc |
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| 21:24.53 | Samb0 | modprobe.conf is a file with .d the directory |
| 21:24.54 | Patric3 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only finds "Default Screen" and "Configured Video Device". How do I get the OS to find more specific video hardware |
| 21:25.03 | res22 | !help |
| 21:25.33 | stew | res22: what are you trying to do? what do you need help with? |
| 21:25.39 | jpinx | enouf: ok |
| 21:25.50 | enouf | X -configure Patric3 ..but it'll be minimal - use lspci and see /var/log/Xorg.0.log and man xorg.conf |
| 21:26.07 | res22 | stew: I just wanted to mess with dpkg and forget the bots name, sorry but thanks for the offer |
| 21:26.14 | stew | res22: /msg dpkg help |
| 21:26.17 | marsje | enouf: I left out the /64, but not sure if it's correct.. seems to work though |
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| 21:26.24 | res22 | :) |
| 21:26.32 | Rapp | what's again the command for selecting which locales to generate? |
| 21:26.36 | enouf | Patric3: "grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log" will be useful at 1st |
| 21:26.46 | stew | Rapp: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:26.54 | Samb0 | ahh hmm running alsaconf and switching it back to the VIA card sorta fixed it! |
| 21:27.02 | enouf | marsje: cool - ok thanks, just weird that double/quadruple colon thing |
| 21:27.08 | Rapp | stew: thanks. missed the s... |
| 21:27.44 | memnon | Samb0: Well, at least until you reboot. But will it be permanent? |
| 21:27.55 | Patric3 | enouf: OK - at least now (after an X -configure) I have a real xorg.conf file that I can start playing around with. Thanks |
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| 21:28.58 | Samb0 | good question! |
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| 21:29.14 | Samb0 | will see, but havn't had sound working like this since I installed lenny |
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| 21:29.39 | memnon | Samb0: I suggest you reboot now. If it still works, fine, if not, lets fix |
| 21:29.39 | memnon | it ;) |
| 21:29.57 | Samb0 | k k |
| 21:30.03 | Samb0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:32.08 | marsje | enouf: it just escapes the colons... just double every colon... it looks confusing though |
| 21:32.53 | enouf | marsje: righto |
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| 21:33.09 | bahram | Hi all, i have a security question (Bug) in Linux , please read this link http://paste.debian.net/32656/ |
| 21:33.10 | memnon | Samb0: Well? |
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| 21:33.26 | GinoMan | have you gotten shmconfig to work on debian on a laptop? |
| 21:33.30 | GinoMan | anyone |
| 21:33.34 | Samb0 | ahh no its gone crackly again... |
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| 21:34.23 | Samb0 | incidentally (perhaps) the mesage I get on startup says /etc/modprobe.conf exists but doesn't contain /etc/modprobe.d! warning |
| 21:34.27 | Samb0 | sumthin like that |
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| 21:34.32 | Samb0 | message |
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| 21:35.25 | enouf | GinoMan: not had to play with it, but does ~$ rgrep SHM /etc/default show useful output |
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| 21:36.11 | GinoMan | /etc/default/tmpfs:# SHM_SIZE sets the maximum size (in bytes) that the /dev/shm tmpfs can use./etc/default/tmpfs:SHM_SIZE= |
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| 21:37.12 | GinoMan | I guess that's a no |
| 21:38.40 | enouf | GinoMan: what is this "shmconfig" supposed to allow/enable you to do? |
| 21:39.02 | GinoMan | I have Option "SHMConfig" "on" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:39.15 | GinoMan | it's supposed to let me modify the attributes of the touchpad |
| 21:39.31 | enouf | Samb0: you should move any /etc/modprobe.conf and/or /etc/modules.conf files out of the way |
| 21:39.38 | Patric3 | enouf: Hmmmm... after the "X -configure" the monitor goes into some awful resolution (that it can't display properly - looks like it's been over driven or something) but the xorg.conf file is devoid of any Modelines (so don't know how to force the display to something sane like 1024x768). The xorg.conf file is at http://pastebin.com/mce880 |
| 21:39.48 | enouf | Samb0: debian likes to use /etc/modprobe.d/* |
| 21:39.55 | Samb0 | eh hmm k |
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| 21:40.13 | memnon | Samb0: This looks related: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48659 |
| 21:40.17 | Samb0 | when I run alsaconf it does ask if it can modify those files and I say 'yes' |
| 21:40.25 | Samb0 | k thanks will take a look at that too |
| 21:40.28 | enouf | Samb0: any/all filename(s) within that dir is parsed (as needed) |
| 21:40.50 | enouf | yes, likely the /sound file within modprobe.d/ |
| 21:40.51 | GodFather- | hey |
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| 21:41.04 | GodFather- | is there a way to shutoff gnome? |
| 21:41.11 | killabeez_ | shutoff? |
| 21:41.20 | GodFather- | wait, i have another question first |
| 21:41.34 | GodFather- | gnome-app-install_0.5.5.1.orig.tar.gz i downloaded that |
| 21:41.36 | enouf | Patric3: there are a few ways - 1st off set your Hor/Vert Hz ranges for your monitor |
| 21:41.38 | GodFather- | how do I install it? |
| 21:41.49 | GodFather- | because apetite install gnome-app-install_0.5.5.1.orig.tar.gz doesnt seem to work =( |
| 21:42.17 | memnon | GodFather-: apetite? aptitude?! |
| 21:42.30 | GodFather- | yea aptitude |
| 21:42.31 | GodFather- | lol |
| 21:42.32 | GodFather- | :P |
| 21:42.33 | enouf | Patric3: you could use the modelines from Xorg.0.log, or perhaps direct output of "cvt -v 1024 768" |
| 21:42.37 | GodFather- | i always forget the word |
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| 21:42.48 | enouf | Patric3: (man cvt) |
| 21:43.02 | simonrvn | must be really difficult to install stuff ;p |
| 21:43.18 | memnon | GodFather-: gnome-app-install is there, try aptitude install gnome-app-install |
| 21:43.24 | enouf | feels hungry now ..:P |
| 21:43.27 | memnon | GodFather-: 0.5.5.1-1 is in lenny |
| 21:43.34 | simonrvn | is eating now |
| 21:43.45 | memnon | Bon appetit ;) |
| 21:43.55 | GodFather- | lenny is 5.0? |
| 21:44.12 | memnon | GodFather-: You are new to debian? |
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| 21:44.26 | GodFather- | correct |
| 21:44.27 | GodFather- | lol |
| 21:44.36 | GodFather- | lets say, new to unix |
| 21:44.42 | nahaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.52 | nahaz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:45.19 | memnon | GodFather-: So, there is lots of new stuff to learn ;) Google is your |
| 21:45.19 | memnon | friend. |
| 21:45.19 | stew | nahaz: please go to #ubuntu for questions about ubuntu |
| 21:45.20 | enouf | Patric3: also note; press ctrl-alt-[+/-] to cycle through any/all modes (resolutions) set |
| 21:45.39 | Witch-King | can anyone tell me how i can figure out what serial port my device is connected to? |
| 21:45.41 | GodFather- | I realise that memnon. |
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| 21:45.55 | stew | GodFather-: you, in general, wouldn't download an orig.tar.gz. if you want to install sometihn glike "gnome-app-install |
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| 21:46.01 | memnon | GodFather-: Different ways to work, but they are different opportunities, |
| 21:46.02 | memnon | too. |
| 21:46.08 | stew | GodFather-: ... youd run "aptitude install gnome-app-install" |
| 21:46.09 | Patric3 | enouf: OK - but how can I make this stick ? AFAIK, it needs to be determined by default in the xorg.conf file. |
| 21:46.10 | nahaz | Hmm they dont answer |
| 21:46.15 | stew | GodFather-: you might read the apt-howto |
| 21:46.23 | memnon | GodFather-: Whenever possible, stick to the debian archives: They are *huge*. |
| 21:46.24 | stew | nahaz: then try a web-forum ro a maliing list |
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| 21:46.53 | enouf | Patric3: if an xorg.conf exists, it'll be used/parsed .. supercedes any defaults |
| 21:46.54 | nahaz | I have lookt around, think I am going back to debina |
| 21:46.54 | memnon | Anyone got a newbie guide to debian handy? |
| 21:47.03 | nahaz | debian |
| 21:47.06 | stew | memnon: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 21:47.07 | Patric3 | enouf: I will follow up with your Xorg.0.log suggestion |
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| 21:47.50 | enouf | Patric3: you might also find useful info at wiki.x.org , and wiki,debian.org (find out about xrandr) |
| 21:48.00 | GodFather- | No candidate version found for gnome-app-install |
| 21:48.08 | GodFather- | o well.. nvm |
| 21:48.22 | Patric3 | enouf: I can get the screen to work beautifully with xrandr -s 1024x768 but don't know how to make this stick |
| 21:48.36 | stew | judd: versions gnome-app-install |
| 21:48.36 | judd | stew: gnome-app-install -- lenny: 0.5.5.1-1 sid: 0.5.5.1-1 squeeze: 0.5.5.1-1 experimental: 0.5.5.1-2 |
| 21:48.50 | enouf | Patric3: is that a laptop? |
| 21:48.51 | stew | GodFather-: can you show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 21:49.14 | Patric3 | enouf: Nah - just an old P4 with 15" LCD |
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| 21:49.41 | Witch-King | can anyone tell me how i can figure out what serial port my device is connected to? |
| 21:50.04 | GodFather- | http://pastebin.com/m692f1baa |
| 21:50.07 | stew | Witch-King: you mean a rs232 serial port? |
| 21:50.31 | Patric3 | enouf: OK - grep '1024x768' /var/log/Xorg.0.log gives a bunch of modelines. I presume I just add these to my xorg.conf (somewhere!) |
| 21:50.45 | enouf | Patric3: here's my xorg.conf, perhaps you can use parts as a sort of 'template' to build yours from http://rafb.net/p/GxUw6L27.html |
| 21:50.54 | Patric3 | enouf: Sweet :-) |
| 21:50.55 | stew | GodFather-: right, you are running 'oldstable' and the package you are looking for wasn't in that release. we'd recommend upgrading to lenny, the current release of debian, see /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 21:50.57 | memnon | GodFather-: Who did the install for you? ;) |
| 21:51.01 | Witch-King | stew, yea |
| 21:51.59 | stew | Witch-King: i don't know how you would tell other than brute force |
| 21:52.29 | enouf | Patric3: ;-) ... for specific video options for whichever video driver you use - see it's man page (ex; man <drivername> , ala; man radeon) |
| 21:52.32 | GodFather- | memnon: it came with the server. |
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| 21:53.18 | memnon | GodFather-: Oh, you are actually admining a server online 24/7? |
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| 21:53.24 | Witch-King | stew, damn. :( on the back of the machine there are two serial ports, only labeled 'A' and 'B'. but in /dev there are 4 ttyS#'s. :( |
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| 21:53.51 | memnon | GodFather-: And you are new to linux? Damn, you better learn quick ;) |
| 21:53.52 | stew | Witch-King: typically A would be ttypS0 |
| 21:54.04 | GodFather- | yes I am memnon lol |
| 21:54.05 | stew | Witch-King: err ttyS0, and B would be ttyS1 |
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| 21:54.32 | GodFather- | yea I have a 100mbit up/down unlimited bandwith 1.2ghz server |
| 21:54.33 | GodFather- | 250gb hdd |
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| 21:54.45 | Witch-King | stew, okay |
| 21:55.04 | dustybin | §7 |
| 21:55.14 | jetscreamer | wonders if there's a... |
| 21:55.18 | jetscreamer | !spellcheck stew |
| 21:55.21 | Patric3 | enouf: Thanks - the template really helped. It's working beautifully now :-) |
| 21:55.22 | jetscreamer | darn |
| 21:55.31 | GodFather- | okay |
| 21:55.35 | GodFather- | i'l update to 5.0 |
| 21:55.38 | memnon | GodFather-: You better configure it properly... |
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| 21:56.25 | _pepo_ | hi friends... I have one laptop with password in BIOS, How do I enable boot from CDrom? |
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| 21:57.07 | memnon | Samb0: Did the link fix your problem? |
| 21:57.08 | GodFather- | what do you mean by that memnon? |
| 21:57.17 | enouf | Patric3: welcome |
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| 21:58.45 | enouf | Witch-King: cat /proc/ioports, and grep tty /var/log/dmesg might help |
| 21:58.47 | Samb0 | still trying to understand it lol |
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| 22:00.37 | enouf | Witch-King: well, not necessarily a direct answer to your query (which i just now noticed) , but also man stty, find out about minicom and even gtkterm |
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| 22:02.40 | marsje | how do I reset my configuration files for a certain package back to it defaults? |
| 22:02.42 | nikolaz | hiiii |
| 22:02.58 | nikolaz | i think afte 3 hou |
| 22:02.58 | nikolaz | hour |
| 22:03.01 | enouf | marsje: well .. do you mean exim4 ? ;-) |
| 22:03.04 | nikolaz | i install debian solaris |
| 22:03.05 | nikolaz | nice now |
| 22:03.06 | nikolaz | ok |
| 22:03.11 | marsje | enouf: yes :) |
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| 22:03.16 | nikolaz | i want game |
| 22:03.19 | nikolaz | tux racing plz |
| 22:03.24 | enouf | marsje: when you configured it, did you explode it into many small conf files? |
| 22:03.31 | nikolaz | tux games |
| 22:03.58 | marsje | enouf: oops, actually I mean dovecot |
| 22:04.21 | enouf | marsje: i guess (and i don't even use email, so take this with some salt, but), i would --purge remove, then apt-get install <pkgname> |
| 22:04.24 | marsje | enouf: I have a dovecot.conf.dpkg-dist and I want to merge the latest debian version with my own changes |
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| 22:04.45 | marsje | enouf: there should be a shorter way :) |
| 22:04.49 | simonrvn | marsje: so run a diff on both |
| 22:05.14 | Witch-King | enouf, well i am trying to get a Parallax BASIC stamp working on my linux box, as it is the only one with rs232 ports >.> |
| 22:05.34 | memnon | marsje: aptitude reinstall ? |
| 22:05.34 | memnon | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.45 | enouf | marsje: ok .. i see now, i'll let another answer (one whom knows better how to handle those conffiles when you install a pkg, i have those too - if i chose "keep your config" and answered Y, then i end up with the default conffile also in that dir/) |
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| 22:06.55 | marsje | simonrvn: I did a diff and I see a bunch of changes... most of them are not mine |
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| 22:07.14 | marsje | memnon: let me look that command up |
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| 22:07.40 | memnon | marsje: Genral Tip: Have a look at etckeeper. Version Control for your etc |
| 22:07.40 | memnon | files. Nice to have, I think. |
| 22:08.16 | davi | Why there is an php4-cli and php5-cli but not an libapache2-mod-php4 ? There is only libapache2-mod-php5. |
| 22:08.22 | marsje | memnon: I was thinking of putting everything in subversion.. is etckepper similar? |
| 22:08.55 | memnon | marsje: etckeeper hooks into apt: So thats very convenient. |
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| 22:09.06 | marsje | memnon: sounds good! |
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| 22:09.28 | marsje | memnon: upgrading config files can make me very confused sometimes |
| 22:09.40 | memnon | marsje: http://joey.kitenet.net/code/etckeeper/. .deb available of course ;) |
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| 22:10.29 | hellues | i hate ext3 |
| 22:10.38 | azeem | try ext4 |
| 22:10.46 | hellues | i want ext4 !!! |
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| 22:10.59 | azeem | or maybe ext2? |
| 22:11.02 | hellues | my home and root folder ext3 |
| 22:11.18 | hellues | how can i make partition with ext4 |
| 22:11.24 | enouf | Witch-King: heh - good luck |
| 22:11.38 | hellues | what is witch-king |
| 22:11.39 | hellues | :d |
| 22:11.59 | Witch-King | hellues, <-- |
| 22:12.17 | hellues | sorry |
| 22:12.20 | enouf | hellues: debian's .26 has ext4dev support built in .. |
| 22:12.21 | hellues | for that |
| 22:12.36 | hellues | i have 2.6.11 |
| 22:12.38 | hellues | kernel |
| 22:12.42 | hellues | and 5.0 debian |
| 22:12.44 | enouf | hellues: you probably want a .28 or better kernel though should you go with ext4 |
| 22:12.53 | hellues | yyeah |
| 22:12.55 | azeem | hellues: 2.6.11? |
| 22:13.00 | hellues | i want that very much |
| 22:13.02 | memnon | .11? |
| 22:13.10 | enouf | ELEVEN!? |
| 22:13.13 | enouf | :-p |
| 22:13.14 | hellues | sorry |
| 22:13.20 | hellues | 2.6.26-1-686 |
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| 22:13.45 | killabeez | how do i set urxvt as my default client? |
| 22:13.48 | enouf | hellues: i would read the changelogs very carefully for whichever version of e2fsprogs you have installed |
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| 22:14.04 | memnon | killabeez: client? |
| 22:14.13 | killabeez | memnon: terminal. |
| 22:14.29 | enouf | judd: version linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 22:14.29 | judd | enouf: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 22:14.31 | azeem | killabeez: update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator or so |
| 22:14.33 | enouf | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 22:14.34 | judd | enouf: linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.6.26+17 sid: 2.6.26+17 squeeze: 2.6.26+17 |
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| 22:14.58 | hellues | i have official debian lenny repository |
| 22:15.07 | enouf | hrm, could've swore i heard 'someone in the know' mention .28 or .29 is in sid |
| 22:15.15 | azeem | it i |
| 22:15.15 | azeem | s |
| 22:15.33 | jetscreamer | .29 |
| 22:15.42 | jetscreamer | 28 vanished quick |
| 22:15.44 | azeem | packages.qa.debian.org/linux-2.6 is authorative |
| 22:15.52 | enouf | thanks azeem |
| 22:15.57 | enouf | and you too jetscreamer |
| 22:15.58 | jetscreamer | my eyes felt authoritative |
| 22:16.13 | jetscreamer | after i --purged it |
| 22:16.19 | marsje | memnon: aptitude reinstall does not seem to replace my config file |
| 22:16.27 | jetscreamer | no it won't |
| 22:16.37 | jetscreamer | !conf-miss |
| 22:16.47 | jetscreamer | what was the factoid |
| 22:16.47 | memnon | marsje: I thought it would ask whether to clean up your old conf and |
| 22:16.47 | memnon | replace it with default... |
| 22:16.55 | jetscreamer | !confmiss |
| 22:16.56 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 22:17.00 | jetscreamer | there you go |
| 22:17.02 | marsje | memnon: it doesn't ask me anything |
| 22:17.12 | memnon | marsje: oh, sorry, my fault |
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| 22:17.49 | marsje | memnon: unless I'm replacing the wrong package |
| 22:18.31 | daewoo | k |
| 22:19.30 | foetus | For purging old config data in case of a "clean" reinstall i generally do a dpkg -P, and then i reinstall the package. |
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| 22:19.53 | enouf | marsje: let dlocate or dpkg -S help you find out which perhaps .. or grep <string> /var/lib/dpkg/info/ (or wherever the post/pre/install/rm files are) |
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| 22:20.01 | marsje | foetus: so I always need to purge everything first and then install again? |
| 22:20.22 | killabeez | azeem: i am not finding anyway to do this, just want to change it so I can load urxvt without having to load a gnome terminal and typing urxvt |
| 22:20.24 | enouf | marsje: the apt-get --purge option removes conffiles |
| 22:20.29 | enouf | as well as the pkg |
| 22:20.33 | marsje | enouf: let me try |
| 22:20.40 | enouf | marsje: as does dpkg -P |
| 22:20.42 | azeem | killabeez: did you try what I proposed? |
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| 22:20.58 | enouf | marsje: and aptitude has an equivalent |
| 22:21.21 | foetus | marsje: if you prefer the clean method, yes. |
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| 22:22.00 | killabeez | azeem: yea that was fine for my root user, but it's not taking for my regular user? |
| 22:22.11 | foetus | marsje: but enouf's method is better in this way. |
| 22:22.25 | azeem | killabeez: then configure your window manager and/or desktop environment accordingly |
| 22:23.05 | Selveste1 | Hey :) Im trying to install Lenny from netinstall'er but when I will make my partitions it just says "unusable disk space" I have 4 new 1 TB HDD never haved anything installed on them, what can be the problem ? |
| 22:23.56 | enouf | Selveste1: were/are those disk contain DOS partition types/tables? or any GPT? |
| 22:24.15 | foetus | try the "expert" install (both graphical or text). |
| 22:24.32 | Selveste1 | don't realy know it 4 brand new Seagate drives :S |
| 22:24.40 | enouf | Selveste1: try a tool such as gnu{parted} and set it as needed - IINM, sometimes it needs to be set to GPT |
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| 22:25.01 | enouf | ok - they're likely full of 0xFF then |
| 22:25.23 | hallowname | anyone here get googleearth or qtscriptgenerator to work on debian (any) (at all)? |
| 22:25.58 | enouf | Selveste1: have you tried selecting using any LVM, or Crypto setup from within the Debian netinstaller? |
| 22:26.10 | EmleyMoor | googleerath worked for me (amd64 lenny) |
| 22:26.17 | enouf | er s/selecting/setting or/ |
| 22:26.22 | EmleyMoor | googleearth even |
| 22:26.41 | enouf | Selveste1: not that you need to - just curious |
| 22:26.57 | foetus | i had same issue, it worked well through the last netinstall isos..don't know |
| 22:27.03 | Selveste1 | I was setting up Linux sw. Raid with the debian, and then after 4 Raid part. then the rest 800gb was unuseble :S |
| 22:27.10 | enouf | Selveste1: are the drives contained within 1 enclosure? |
| 22:27.26 | enouf | perhaps that came with some proprietary controller or software? |
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| 22:27.47 | enouf | hrm |
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| 22:28.54 | enouf | Selveste1: did it say something like; "Your need to reboot for your changes to take affect, otherwise your partitions won't be written to disk, or your system won't know about them" ? |
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| 22:29.30 | Selveste1 | Nope |
| 22:30.04 | enouf | did you leave an extra 200GB per disk off ? (is that how you get your 800G number?) |
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| 22:30.59 | enouf | i mean, did you setup your mdadm to use 1 partition per disk, each of 800G in size? so each would then also have 200G leftover? |
| 22:31.04 | Selveste1 | I was making som emty partitions for XEN, and then when there was 800gb left on the drivs, it just happend :S |
| 22:31.29 | Selveste1 | *drives |
| 22:31.59 | enouf | have you left the installer setup already? have you rebooted? |
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| 22:32.55 | Selveste1 | I have tryed to nuke the drives with DBAN but without any luck, still same error |
| 22:33.21 | enouf | wow - talk about ovverkill :-P |
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| 22:33.53 | enouf | Selveste1: er.. just zero them out and start again - BTW, are they Hitachis? |
| 22:34.01 | enouf | oh, right ,, you said seagate |
| 22:35.05 | Selveste1 | Yes I know but after 3 times, and no luck to get through the install I got desperate :P |
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| 22:35.32 | enouf | but try either a) the daily builds, or b) try setting up partitions prior to using installer (use gparted or something) .. report a bug (installation report please as well) - tried 'expert' mode? (as foetusmentioned?) |
| 22:36.24 | Selveste1 | enouf: I have maked the same install from the same netinstall image on another server and there it worked just well :S |
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| 22:36.38 | amg | hi. im trying to get debian on a usb stick. |
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| 22:36.44 | amg | so far i have copied over three files to it |
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| 22:36.51 | amg | boot.img.gz initrd.gz and vmlinuz |
| 22:36.52 | Selveste1 | The only diff, from the last server and to this one is the amount of disk space :P |
| 22:36.58 | amg | there is something missing though |
| 22:37.00 | enouf | Selveste1: different hardware behaves ... differently :-P |
| 22:37.01 | BCM43 | amg: persistant or not? |
| 22:37.06 | amg | BCM43: no. |
| 22:37.10 | amg | just for an install |
| 22:37.13 | amg | netinstall. |
| 22:37.18 | Selveste1 | Same hw, but not same HDD :P |
| 22:37.29 | BCM43 | amg: loot into unetbootin |
| 22:37.36 | BCM43 | *look |
| 22:37.41 | amg | got it already |
| 22:37.56 | amg | i wonder what unbetbootin does |
| 22:38.00 | amg | how its majic works |
| 22:38.06 | amg | magic* |
| 22:38.49 | amg | which of those three files is the kernel |
| 22:38.58 | amg | unetbootin is asking for the kernel! |
| 22:39.09 | amg | vmlinuz is the kernel if im not mistaekn |
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| 22:39.13 | amg | just want to make sure |
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| 22:41.09 | amg | hmm |
| 22:41.15 | amg | it tells me it couldknt find an installer iso |
| 22:41.18 | amg | what do i need |
| 22:41.47 | killabeez | I cant figure out how to change my terminal and its getting me annoyed |
| 22:42.38 | foetus | try to clean the drives again, and prepare the expert install (graphics or textmode). it was the goal to me. the default install makes some problems. i had the same issue on two totally different platforms. with expert install the problem was gone. |
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| 22:42.40 | amg | what do you want vchanged? |
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| 22:43.24 | killabeez | amg: ? |
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| 22:43.45 | Michele | how do reset my sound card? |
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| 22:46.32 | Anthro | I recall a VNC server that didn't use the framebuffer at all, just a virtual X server. apt-cache search vnc x11 isn't coming up with it. Does anyone know what package I'm looking for? |
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| 22:47.47 | DimmuR | Anthro, maybye vnc4server? |
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| 22:48.05 | Anthro | DimmuR: Looking... |
| 22:48.33 | Anthro | DimmuR: Yes! That's what I was remembering. Thank you! |
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| 22:49.26 | DimmuR | np :) |
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| 22:50.43 | dergringo | Hi. There is something strange with my Apache2 on Lenny 64bit. I'm having various issues where it does not follow the config. F.e. the rewrite config just get ignored but without any error. mod rewrite is enabled. I read from others with the same problems. I was told to purge and reinstall. But that didn't help. Any advice? |
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| 22:51.21 | amg | what kind of installer image is debian looking for? |
| 22:51.29 | J-_ | Whenever I restart or turn on my laptop I get wireless errors, I get a DHCP Discovery, request Set enclode 8B2A and it says something about DHCPOffers. What can I do about this? |
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| 22:51.43 | J-_ | It pings with ports for about 30 seconds |
| 22:51.52 | J-_ | Wireless does work, too. |
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| 22:53.40 | enouf | killabeez: what does "change my terminal" mean? |
| 22:53.50 | enouf | precisely |
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| 22:54.13 | Noble | Where is the arp tables stored? |
| 22:54.26 | Noble | proc/net/arp? |
| 22:54.38 | DimmuR | seems so |
| 22:54.40 | enouf | cat it and se |
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| 22:55.09 | foetus | so lets go to bed now :) bye |
| 22:55.13 | Noble | well, somebody told me that that /proc is going to be abandoned or something |
| 22:55.19 | Noble | so /sys is teh new stuff? |
| 22:55.22 | Noble | or am i wrong |
| 22:55.33 | killabeez | enouf: from when i click app/accessories/terminal -- instead of loading gnome terminal - load urxvt |
| 22:55.40 | enouf | Noble: wrong |
| 22:55.44 | Noble | nice |
| 22:55.50 | amg | okay, the file debian 500 ... iso will be used as the installation iso image |
| 22:55.54 | Noble | +1 for me, -1 for him |
| 22:55.55 | Noble | thanks |
| 22:55.56 | ericrw | anyone here using ftpsync? It seems to be downloading architectures I choose to exclude... |
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| 22:56.03 | amg | but then what the hell did i need boot.img for? |
| 22:56.05 | avu | Noble, there is a move to use the /proc fs more for what it's intended for |
| 22:56.29 | avu | Noble, and use /sys for system information instead of proc |
| 22:57.01 | Noble | i see |
| 22:57.03 | enouf | killabeez: maybe update-alternatives --config urxvt (or replace urxvt with [TAB][TAB] to view which) |
| 22:57.05 | ericrw | avu: and in the meanwhile, to create panic and confusion |
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| 22:57.10 | avu | /proc is, well, for processes and related information, the other stuff just got slapped in there in Linux somehow because there wasn't a better place for a long time |
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| 22:57.34 | takuan | can anybody help me on a strange iceweasel problem i'm having on amd64? |
| 22:57.53 | avu | ericrw, it's part of the general "more adrenalin in the FOSS community" movement, which I think is a healthy thing, yes. |
| 22:57.54 | enouf | Noble: /sysfs is newer ever since 2.6 .. same for modprobe .. IIRC |
| 22:57.56 | dondelelcaro | amg: the boot.img files contain the kernel, initrd, and a few other files necessary to boot off of media |
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| 22:58.02 | takuan | it shows a lot of wrong rendering |
| 22:58.16 | takuan | whereas, if i try swiftfox it shows everything plain ok |
| 22:58.22 | amg | dondelelcaro: so in theory all i need is to extract boot.img onto a usb stick? |
| 22:58.27 | takuan | even older versions of iceweasel give me the same problem |
| 22:58.29 | dondelelcaro | amg: and stick an iso on it, yes. |
| 22:58.30 | avu | takuan, WFM, have you checked the BTS? tried with a clean profile? |
| 22:58.32 | enouf | and as others are mentioning, it allows for keeping /proc unmolested as intended |
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| 22:58.52 | takuan | avu: yes i did |
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| 22:59.02 | amg | dondelelcaro: so it requires i decompress from .gz. which would follow |
| 22:59.08 | takuan | even uninstall all possible plugins and themes |
| 22:59.19 | Noble | basicly, I can write my program to use net info from /proc and it will work in the future as well? |
| 22:59.28 | avu | takuan, well, if you tried with a clean profile, those wouldn't have been loaded anyway..? |
| 22:59.38 | dondelelcaro | amg: you can just write it out in one step; zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sda1; or similar. |
| 22:59.43 | takuan | indeed |
| 22:59.45 | avu | Noble, at least for the foreseeable future |
| 22:59.46 | amg | dondelelcaro: then there woudlnt be a need to screw around with unetbooting atll |
| 22:59.59 | Noble | avu, thanks no for the coding.. |
| 23:00.00 | takuan | strange thing is that I have the same problem with the latest nightly build from firefox itself |
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| 23:00.17 | avu | Noble, there's no such thing as a stable API when it comes to Linux ;) |
| 23:00.18 | dondelelcaro | amg: depending on what you're doing, yes. This is all covered in section 4.3 of the install manual, BTW. Reading it is kind of recommended. |
| 23:00.30 | takuan | i guess the problem might rather be with some of the dependencies |
| 23:00.32 | takuan | could that be? |
| 23:00.33 | enouf | Noble: i suggest you read kernel /Documentation |
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| 23:00.37 | amg | dondelelcaro: ah alright ;) |
| 23:00.46 | killabeez | enouf: No alternatives for urxvt. |
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| 23:00.59 | Noble | avu, suppose its not the worst thing to break in my program |
| 23:01.01 | enouf | Noble: especially the sys{fs} related and /feature-removal-schedule.txt |
| 23:01.19 | enouf | killabeez: how did you install it? |
| 23:01.22 | Noble | I've got a lot of reading to do |
| 23:01.46 | ericrw | ah, damn it, I used a comma instead of space separated list, thats why I was downloading every arch :( |
| 23:01.48 | takuan | mmm |
| 23:01.50 | takuan | second |
| 23:02.00 | Noble | got a coding frenzy when I installed linux for the first time a year ago. Old time windows user. Now I can actually do stuff ;) |
| 23:02.09 | enouf | heh |
| 23:02.24 | killabeez | enouf: source. |
| 23:02.34 | enouf | debian source? |
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| 23:02.38 | hallowname | ./googleearth-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8: symbol BIO_test_flags, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference <- X| stupid google. help? |
| 23:02.40 | killabeez | enouf: yes |
| 23:02.48 | ericrw | avu: it isn't that unstable... I mean, since we switched to glibc and elf, its been a lot better. |
| 23:02.50 | enouf | killabeez: you built a .deb and installed? |
| 23:03.10 | ericrw | still has libc5 a.out conversion nightmares |
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| 23:03.14 | avu | ericrw, I sure was being a bit polemic there, yes |
| 23:03.15 | killabeez | enouf: its been awhile since I installed it, but yea i think so |
| 23:03.18 | abrotman | hallowname: did you install libssl0.9.8 ? |
| 23:03.30 | avu | ericrw, what I basically meant is that there is no promise of API stability |
| 23:03.31 | hallowname | abrotman: yup. squeeze's and sid's fail |
| 23:03.38 | amg | wow this is odd |
| 23:03.47 | amg | dondelelcaro: i get colors flashing on my screen |
| 23:03.49 | enouf | killabeez: dpkg-buildpackage? apt-get -b ... ? fakeroot pkgname debian/binary ? |
| 23:04.22 | enouf | killabeez: well - i'm not sure why it's not presented in the update-alternatives options menus ... |
| 23:04.36 | killabeez | enouf: im not sure why roots terminal is using it |
| 23:04.41 | enouf | maybe run update-menus? .. dang |
| 23:04.43 | killabeez | enouf: and update alternatives cant find it |
| 23:04.55 | enouf | it? |
| 23:05.14 | enouf | root's terminal is using what? |
| 23:05.21 | killabeez | urxvt |
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| 23:05.51 | enouf | killabeez: when you talk about app/accessories/terminal |
| 23:06.03 | enouf | did you access through gconf-editor? |
| 23:06.08 | killabeez | enouf: yea, there is 'root terminal' and 'terminal' |
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| 23:06.14 | killabeez | root terminal is using urxvt |
| 23:06.24 | enouf | killabeez: have you set it when you used gksudo / gksu ? |
| 23:06.59 | enouf | killabeez: i'd say ask gnome oriented people - i don't use it ... /msg dpkg gnome |
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| 23:07.10 | amg | never seen this happen before. |
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| 23:08.45 | enouf | killabeez: check /root/ and it's dotfiles as well for (like .profile, .bash_profile etc) |
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| 23:09.00 | killabeez | enouf can you just tell me how to wipe urxvt from my system, gonna try and start over |
| 23:09.09 | enouf | killabeez: heh |
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| 23:09.33 | enouf | killabeez: if you installed using dpkg -i, you can remove using dpkg -P |
| 23:09.39 | takuan | avu: could this have something to do with font rendering? |
| 23:09.40 | killabeez | enouf yea i know, there is a n |
| 23:09.41 | killabeez | 19:01 < enouf> killabeez: if you installed using dpkg -i, you can remove using dpkg -P [19:01] [killabeez(+i)] [3:freenode/#debian(+JLPcflnt)] [Act: 2] |
| 23:09.45 | killabeez | [#debian] enouf yea i know, there is a |
| 23:09.46 | takuan | i turned on subpixel stuff |
| 23:09.47 | killabeez | wow |
| 23:09.54 | killabeez | sorry bout that |
| 23:09.56 | igor47 | does anyone know if there's a package that contains the binary ft2nfdump ? |
| 23:10.03 | igor47 | is there a utility to let me find out? |
| 23:10.09 | killabeez | there is a .rxtv-unicode-train |
| 23:10.19 | killabeez | but its not working for update-alter |
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| 23:11.32 | igor47 | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/nfdump says something about 'optional tools available but needs recompilation...' |
| 23:12.14 | enouf | killabeez: i was really thinking more like an .xinitrc or some WM dotfile (config file), like maybe fluxbox or similar, with a line setting the terminal to use when you are root - but this is all speculation , since gnome may have it's own way of determining, doing these things |
| 23:12.29 | hallowname | abrotman: for future reference: google-earth can only be installed on debian with 'googleearth-package' utility (used to make a .deb from... i dunno...) weird... |
| 23:12.51 | abrotman | hallowname: didn't even know such a thing existed ... i don't think i've ever even seen the application |
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| 23:14.25 | hallowname | abrotman: google's binary installer works for any distro but debian i guess... odd... just that openssl linkage failure... |
| 23:14.37 | abrotman | possibly |
| 23:14.44 | Killabeez | enouf, not installed with dpkg |
| 23:14.46 | hallowname | abrotman: shiny app tho :) |
| 23:15.07 | enouf | Killabeez: welp, maybe look for a make --uninstall option or something |
| 23:15.31 | enouf | Killabeez: it's living in /usr/local/ yes? |
| 23:15.54 | Killabeez | enouf looks like it was installed with snyaptic |
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| 23:16.44 | Killabeez | dpkg -P rxvt-unicode |
| 23:16.44 | dpkg | Killabeez: I give up, what is it? |
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| 23:16.51 | Killabeez | lol |
| 23:17.29 | kevin-8a89 | is there a way to get debian to run really fast like Puppy or DSL? |
| 23:17.30 | Killabeez | ok its gone, now installing again |
| 23:17.36 | bravvve | hello, there is some thing <rong with x server when installing debian etch in sony vaio laptop,how can i fix it |
| 23:17.50 | abrotman | bravvve: why are you installing etch? |
| 23:17.55 | kevin-8a89 | i.e. running 100% from ramFS and using busybox |
| 23:18.10 | bravvve | i have etch dvd |
| 23:18.31 | abrotman | okay .. so do a baseinstall, and dist-upgrade to lenny |
| 23:18.39 | memnon | bravvve: Generally, it is a good idea to use the *latest* stable |
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| 23:19.18 | kevin-8a89 | heh |
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| 23:19.29 | ringo999 | so i |
| 23:19.42 | bravvve | ok,i will download 1st cd of lenny,but shure that this problem is fixed |
| 23:19.51 | abrotman | bravvve: you don't have to do that |
| 23:20.00 | abrotman | !tell bravvve about etch->lenny |
| 23:20.28 | bravvve | because i think that is hard reconessancxe problem,nvidia or screen |
| 23:20.37 | ringo999 | using rsync: what is a good way to get specific files/folder from an rsync server? |
| 23:20.50 | ringo999 | or would it be better to use nfs? |
| 23:21.07 | bravvve | hardw |
| 23:22.00 | abrotman | ringo999: rsync has a way to read a list of files |
| 23:22.48 | ringo999 | abrotman: from the server? |
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| 23:23.08 | bravvve | abrotman:so upgradin fix problem? |
| 23:23.20 | ringo999 | abrotman: i mean how can i browser the files on the server and select them? |
| 23:23.33 | sjokkis | with lvm, are individual files stored across several drives, or will i on a 3 disk setup lose 1/3 of my files (but no partial files) if a drive fails? |
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| 23:26.12 | abrotman | ringo999: don't think you can do that with rsync |
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| 23:29.36 | Tramp | sjokkis: I think that if you lose a PV the VG breaks and with it all its LVs. |
| 23:29.57 | sjokkis | ah. i guess that makes it all the more important to keep backups |
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| 23:30.41 | Killabeez | so weird, http://pastebin.com/m5b9690e2 |
| 23:30.47 | Tramp | sjokkis: well - If you'd lose only 1/3 of your files backups would be less important? |
| 23:30.51 | enouf | sjokkis: it might also depend upon if any (and how) mdadm is underneath |
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| 23:31.03 | sjokkis | Tramp: yes. losing 1/3 is less important than losing 1/1 |
| 23:31.04 | Killabeez | so i got update-alternatives to take the new settings finally but its still not loading urxvt |
| 23:31.08 | Killabeez | check the link i posted |
| 23:31.14 | sjokkis | enouf: i have mdadm underneath now, but i'm removing it |
| 23:31.21 | sjokkis | it's a home fileserver, and i don't see use for it anymore |
| 23:31.26 | sjokkis | i've been fooling myself |
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| 23:31.50 | sjokkis | so from now on it's no raid, but with backups instead |
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| 23:32.19 | sjokkis | i could do raid 1 i guess. i'm not sure yet |
| 23:32.34 | enouf | Killabeez: readlink -f /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator |
| 23:32.50 | sjokkis | if i do raid 1, do i have to set that up now or could i build that later even though one of the drives will be full from before? |
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| 23:33.06 | Killabeez | enouf, /usr/bin/urxvt |
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| 23:33.21 | Killabeez | enouf, so app/accessories/term does not use /usr/bin/xterm link?? |
| 23:33.38 | enouf | Killabeez: and why are all the 'c' letters missing (from obvious 'cd' commands) in your paste :-P |
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| 23:34.00 | enouf | Killabeez: how the heck would i know? i said i don't use gnome already |
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| 23:34.08 | sjokkis | never mind. my question is stupid. i could make a degraded raid 1 and fill it from the existing drive |
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| 23:34.32 | Killabeez | enouf, those are not commands, they are output of namei |
| 23:34.51 | enouf | Killabeez: grah |
| 23:35.23 | enouf | Killabeez: listen; so , update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator doesn't list uxrvt or whatever you want? |
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| 23:36.19 | Killabeez | enouf, yes it sure does |
| 23:36.31 | enouf | Killabeez: also - have you run updatedb lately? if not do so |
| 23:36.42 | Killabeez | enouf, dont think i have ever done that doing it now |
| 23:37.12 | Killabeez | enouf, update-alternatives should work with sudo - I mean it works and lets me select but is it saving the settings as root or user? |
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| 23:38.07 | enouf | Killabeez: i'm not sure offhand |
| 23:38.35 | enouf | Killabeez: well - as root, but not necessarily asa dotfile under /root/ |
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| 23:39.05 | enouf | Killabeez: it's a system-wide setting for all users, i think .. i never liked it, nor learned much about it |
| 23:40.07 | enouf | Killabeez: but .. have you been logging in under say gdm, once using gksudo/gksu/sux instead of normally and altered those? |
| 23:40.39 | Killabeez | enouf, what is a logout fixes it? |
| 23:40.42 | Killabeez | enouf brb |
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| 23:42.07 | Killabeez | enouf, no haven't made any of those kinds of changes |
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| 23:43.26 | eps | why wouldnt: apt-get install openssh-server find a package? |
| 23:44.02 | abrotman | your sources aren't right |
| 23:44.52 | stew | eps: show us the output of "apt-cache policy" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 23:46.13 | eps | only thing in my sources.list is security.debian.org should i add a mirror? |
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| 23:46.31 | eps | im at a datacenter right now with only access to a terminal |
| 23:46.41 | azeem | eps: security.debian.org is round-robin |
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| 23:46.58 | azeem | eps: or are you asking whether you should ask a full lenny mirror? |
| 23:47.28 | eps | yeah i was thinking maybe i needed a mirror in there |
| 23:47.32 | shootm3h | hi chaps, i've got XDMCP running to connect from another laptop. two quick Q's. one is esound with export espeaker still the best fix for xdmcp and sound. and two , ,, |
| 23:47.51 | stew | eps: yes, you do, /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 23:48.00 | shootm3h | is there a simple way to provide pxe boot to XDMCP login ? |
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| 23:49.29 | shootm3h | and if so, is pxe or syslinux the best way to go, and there a difference between aftp and tftp ? and off the fly recommendations for simple setup and which kernel to boot. oldish pII laptop |
| 23:50.01 | eps | stew: thanks, its finding packages now. just had to add a mirror |
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| 23:54.00 | jamin | hello |
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| 23:59.01 | takuan | this is rather strange |
| 23:59.19 | takuan | I have artifacts in iceweasel when i view it at 100% |
| 23:59.35 | takuan | but as soon as I zoom out or zoom in the artifacts disappear |
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