| 00:00.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | recommend debian on arch channel and see what they do |
| 00:00.11 | jelly-home | mat__: any of those, but you'll probably spend 2-20 more hours figuring out how to do a partial downgrade (uninstalling just kde and installing it from stable) |
| 00:00.23 | niceone | .) i hate holywars |
| 00:00.23 | MarcWeber | n-iCe from #xorg http://rafb.net/p/fo0SKG76.html |
| 00:00.28 | jelly-home | !remove kde |
| 00:00.29 | dpkg | i heard remove kde is aptitude purge kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data |
| 00:00.35 | niceone | we all on one side.. Linux side .) |
| 00:00.42 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !remove debian |
| 00:00.43 | dpkg | remove debian is, like, something i don't know |
| 00:00.44 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
| 00:00.46 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lmaoz |
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| 00:00.57 | jelly-home | sh4d3sl4y3r_: /msg the bot |
| 00:01.15 | Caelum | is the lack of /usr/include/asm/page.h in debian a bug? |
| 00:01.30 | at0m|c | niceone: #debian can be a tad platonistic :> |
| 00:01.31 | bpun | anyone knows about jackd ? |
| 00:01.42 | at0m|c | thereis no linux, just debian:> |
| 00:01.48 | niceone | xDD |
| 00:02.02 | bpun | Caelum, apt-cache search linux-headers |
| 00:02.10 | at0m|c | for the rest, they're a nice bunch of people :) |
| 00:02.13 | niceone | not good .) dont be like Windows users... |
| 00:02.20 | jelly-home | !tell Caelum -about search |
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| 00:02.44 | niceone | Linus Torvalds - god? or evil? .) |
| 00:02.49 | jelly-home | Caelum: use apt-file to search for file paths in packages not installed |
| 00:02.54 | jetscreamer | Caelum: 2.6.29 headers are borked |
| 00:03.01 | Caelum | bpun: yes I know it's in linux-headers, but some things require it to be in the standard set of includes to compile |
| 00:03.16 | izua | is there any utility to edit mp3 tags? |
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| 00:03.24 | jetscreamer | izua: many |
| 00:03.27 | jetscreamer | more than many |
| 00:03.28 | bpun | Caelum, use param overrides.. |
| 00:03.30 | izua | no |
| 00:03.41 | jetscreamer | !dmm |
| 00:03.42 | dpkg | somebody said dmm was Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 00:03.50 | Caelum | I just made a symlink |
| 00:03.50 | jelly-home | Caelum: I'd tell you it's in linux-kernel-headers, but then you wouldn't figure out apt-file for yourself |
| 00:03.52 | izua | i mean edit the tags, rename files after tags, rename tags after parts of filenames, add specific album art (cover, cd, etc) |
| 00:03.57 | jelly-home | Caelum: don't do that |
| 00:04.00 | niceone | here is to many dumm questions... its because here is just newbies? |
| 00:04.01 | izua | something like this one: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ - but for linux |
| 00:04.02 | Caelum | jelly-home: I know about apt-file, thank you |
| 00:04.10 | izua | i was thinking of using that under wine.. |
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| 00:04.35 | niceone | shade, where a u |
| 00:04.49 | jelly-home | Caelum: in /usr/include, you want headers that were used to build your glibc |
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| 00:05.11 | bpun | izua, start getting used to ogg.. it's free and i'm sure has its advantages over mp3 |
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| 00:05.21 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | guys how is wine going these days? is it capable to run the high end 3d games? |
| 00:05.21 | Caelum | jelly-home: for some reason perl 5.6.2 needs that header, don't know why |
| 00:05.26 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | say need for speed and stuff? |
| 00:05.36 | bpun | izua, for mp3 tagging.. i believe rhythmbox can do that... and so many other gui apps.. |
| 00:05.41 | jetscreamer | sh4d3sl4y3r_: #winehq |
| 00:05.41 | Caelum | sh4d3sl4y3r_: some of them, check the app db, also #winehq |
| 00:05.46 | jelly-home | Caelum: so use apt-file and find the package providing that file |
| 00:05.52 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | m not much into gaming... but still just to passtime as i dont use windows anymore |
| 00:05.53 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search id3|grep edit |
| 00:05.53 | izua | i don't want simple tagging, that's the issue |
| 00:06.00 | jelly-home | Caelum: why do you need perl 5.6.2? |
| 00:06.11 | Caelum | jelly-home: testing modules for compatibility |
| 00:06.12 | bpun | izua, i dont know.. u'd just have to apt-get or apt-cache search and try them.. |
| 00:06.33 | izua | hmmph.. that's what i'm trying to avoid |
| 00:06.39 | jetscreamer | sh4d3sl4y3r_: lots of decent native gaming options |
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| 00:06.43 | jelly-home | Caelum: *nod* |
| 00:06.47 | mat__ | I think I have downgraded all kde, but it does not work |
| 00:06.49 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search id3|grep edit |
| 00:06.51 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | thts good |
| 00:06.53 | jetscreamer | that's hard |
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| 00:07.14 | bpun | izua, or just google 'best mp3 tag editors for linux' ... unfortunately i don't know any.. |
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| 00:07.45 | jelly-home | dpkg: find include/asm/page.h |
| 00:08.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'include/asm/page.h' (1): (/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.29-1-common/arch/x86/include/asm/page.h) in devel/linux-headers-2.6.29-1-common. |
| 00:08.30 | jelly-home | dpkg: that's weird. |
| 00:08.30 | dpkg | no idea, jelly-home |
| 00:08.38 | at0m|c | izua, i've happily used easytag for years, found another great one recently but cant remember the name.. |
| 00:08.56 | jelly-home | judd: info linux-kernel-headers |
| 00:09.10 | jelly-home | judd: versions linux-kernel-headers |
| 00:09.10 | judd | jelly-home: linux-kernel-headers -- etch: 2.6.18-7 |
| 00:09.12 | at0m|c | izua: and i'm not on my debian machine atm to check which |
| 00:10.01 | jelly-home | ah, linux-libc-dev |
| 00:10.15 | izua | what i do is I rename all my music in artist - album - trackno - trackname format |
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| 00:10.35 | at0m|c | izua: easytag does all that |
| 00:10.42 | izua | but gennerally that's a bitch, i have to get the old filenames and/or tags |
| 00:10.42 | jelly-home | Caelum: frankly I have no idea why linux-libc-dev doesn't have asm/page.h |
| 00:10.47 | izua | and process them in some way |
| 00:10.50 | Theoden | Linux Curmudgeon 2.6.29.1-theo.2 #1 SMP Tue Apr 7 12:19:55 PDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 00:10.50 | jelly-home | Caelum: it might really be a bug |
| 00:11.06 | izua | well yes, thanks, i can rename them by hand in konqui :) |
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| 00:11.20 | izua | the thing is i'll have to rename them/tag them en masse, based on same criteria |
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| 00:11.25 | izua | easytag good enough for that? |
| 00:11.31 | jelly-home | Caelum: or it might be an obsoleted header file |
| 00:11.41 | at0m|c | izua: it extracts tags from names, it names from tags, and en masse, it just doesnt get the tags from musicbrainz or so |
| 00:11.53 | bpun | izua, u can do an apt-cache search statment like someone said.. u'd just have to try them out... |
| 00:12.15 | at0m|c | izua: and it renames to whatever file name and path you want acoording to tags |
| 00:12.27 | izua | bpun, i'm asking here because i'm trying to avoid that |
| 00:12.27 | at0m|c | *according |
| 00:12.28 | jpinx | what's a .rar file? |
| 00:12.30 | Caelum | jelly-home: thank you, I'll do some research |
| 00:12.31 | mat__ | jelly-home, i think downgraded all kde... |
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| 00:12.41 | izua | at0m|c: let me get that.. |
| 00:12.46 | izua | works from apt? |
| 00:12.47 | at0m|c | finally |
| 00:12.50 | izua | regular repositories? |
| 00:12.54 | bpun | izua, #linux folks tend to be more oriented in this.. |
| 00:12.56 | at0m|c | yep |
| 00:13.15 | bpun | never used an mp3 tag editor... heck |
| 00:13.21 | bpun | uses ogg!!!! |
| 00:13.37 | at0m|c | it does that too! ;p |
| 00:13.38 | izua | i'd use flac |
| 00:13.49 | at0m|c | runs |
| 00:13.51 | izua | then again i don't have enough space, and my players only know mp3 |
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| 00:14.31 | HardDisk_WP | how can I determine if a specific application transfers data over the net? |
| 00:14.35 | bpun | izua, add 'non-free contrib' to ur sources.list |
| 00:14.57 | bpun | izua, those are the non-regular additions to sources.list ... |
| 00:15.04 | HardDisk_WP | comparing the values of ifconfig is of no use, ssh of course adds to the values |
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| 00:15.19 | bpun | izua, the id3 tag editors might be defined -- (run apt-get update after editing sources.list) |
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| 00:15.50 | izua | already did that.. |
| 00:15.55 | bpun | izua, and the debian-multimedia site as well... |
| 00:15.57 | izua | gonna check it right now |
| 00:16.24 | bpun | izua, they are added after 'main' of course... |
| 00:16.50 | jelly-home | mat__: I'll leave you for tonight, sorry. |
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| 00:19.00 | bpun | HardDisk_WP, depends on what 'app' u want to debug |
| 00:19.15 | HardDisk_WP | some daemon (moblock) |
| 00:19.22 | HardDisk_WP | i want to see if the list download is stalled |
| 00:19.27 | HardDisk_WP | it is already running |
| 00:19.33 | l403 | Iam trying to recreate a partition table from /proc/partittions butdont really knkow how to do the conversion |
| 00:19.33 | bpun | HardDisk_WP, then just check it's plain text log.. |
| 00:19.51 | HardDisk_WP | bpun, it says " Updating peerguardian.sourceforge.net/lists/p2p.php... |
| 00:19.51 | HardDisk_WP | " |
| 00:19.57 | mrec | hi, does anyone know a good app for converting dvds to mpeg-PS? |
| 00:20.05 | l403 | I have block sizes and fdisk is asking for first cilnder |
| 00:20.09 | bpun | HardDisk_WP, then check on how to log your php scripts... |
| 00:20.13 | mrec | vobcopy creates mpeg-ts .. I don't need the entire stream.. |
| 00:20.22 | l403 | is this most likely 1 for hda1? |
| 00:20.23 | HardDisk_WP | bpun, I dont run that server =) |
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| 00:20.30 | HardDisk_WP | I just use the service... |
| 00:20.43 | HardDisk_WP | problem is, PG list servers are often under heavy load |
| 00:20.49 | bpun | HardDisk_WP, use tcpdump with port 80 |
| 00:21.12 | HardDisk_WP | thanks |
| 00:21.14 | bpun | HardDisk_WP, there are mirrors for that i think... |
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| 00:21.48 | HardDisk_WP | bpun, the php script is a load balancer... problem is, when all mirrors are overloaded, you have a problem ^^ |
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| 00:22.09 | bpun | HardDisk_WP, um.. u just told me u dont take care of the server so i have no clue.. |
| 00:22.57 | n-iCe | How cuould I install my webcam? Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0c45:6100 Microdia |
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| 00:24.54 | HardDisk_WP | bpun, thanks for the hint, it works. i see slowly flowing packets =) |
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| 00:28.22 | bpun | n-iCe, sn9c102 module? |
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| 00:29.13 | jetscreamer | mrec: avidemux is simple easy and effective. mencoder rocks too. |
| 00:29.19 | jetscreamer | !dmm |
| 00:29.19 | dpkg | dmm is, like, Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
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| 00:30.16 | n-iCe | bpun: really? |
| 00:30.31 | bpun | n-iCe, try modprobe sn9c102.. then see if a webcam app works... |
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| 00:31.11 | bpun | n-iCe, i believe it should work.. it was experimental jan 2008... |
| 00:31.29 | n-iCe | bpun: modprobe is to load, how can I unload |
| 00:31.34 | n-iCe | because I get now some errores |
| 00:31.43 | jetscreamer | modprobe -r |
| 00:31.46 | bpun | n-iCe, use pastebin.ca |
| 00:31.59 | bpun | n-iCe, dont remove modules if u know u dont need to.. |
| 00:33.04 | n-iCe | bpun: http://sadasdasdoasdad.pastebin.com/m65476993 |
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| 00:33.54 | n-iCe | And here is the dmesg output: http://sadasdasdoasdad.pastebin.com/m3ff6ce20 |
| 00:33.59 | bpun | n-iCe, what does dmesg say? (dmesg |tail) |
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| 00:34.17 | mrec | jetscreamer: avidemux might be a good solution now :) I'll check it |
| 00:34.40 | mrec | I want to play my dvds on my embedded device but the codecs don't support the mpeg-ts container only mpeg-ps |
| 00:34.49 | TheSarge | Okay so my xorg in ubuntu works great but it keeps crashing in debian, the ubuntu xorg.conf is useless cause the automagic stuff.. everything says configured device and such? |
| 00:34.55 | n-iCe | bpun: what I posted in the second link. |
| 00:35.10 | mrec | this is why I want to make mpeg-ps out of a dvd for testing it |
| 00:35.18 | bpun | n-iCe, what's the product model name? it might be easy to address parameters |
| 00:36.08 | n-iCe | bpun: lsusb says Bus 005 Device 004: ID 0c45:6100 Microdia |
| 00:36.09 | TheSarge | I am not getting any (EE) lines in the log file either... |
| 00:36.30 | bpun | TheSarge, if u see X's log it may say.. u might even have X working with xorg.conf (renaming xorg.conf to xorg.conf_000) |
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| 00:36.50 | bpun | n-iCe, but there's no label on the webcam? |
| 00:36.54 | TheSarge | bpun: Hun use what xorg.conf?? |
| 00:37.00 | TheSarge | huh* |
| 00:37.00 | n-iCe | bpun: says, perfectchoice |
| 00:37.38 | bpun | TheSarge, renaming xorg.conf is a crude fix.. but may work.. (it'll force X not to use any human .conf files)... this is just to see if X can work.. |
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| 00:38.47 | TheSarge | bpun: It does work.. I can get to the graphical login page. |
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| 00:39.16 | TheSarge | But after I login I just get a black screen.. and ctrl alt +\- is useless |
| 00:39.39 | n-iCe | bpun: no idea? |
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| 00:40.00 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:40.16 | TheSarge | Ya that just restarts gdm |
| 00:40.41 | TheSarge | then it wont even get me back to the gdm login screen, I have to restart to get it to work again? |
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| 00:41.35 | TheSarge | I am almost certain it is using the wrong video driver or a bad mode |
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| 00:41.39 | bpun | n-iCe, well u can add more debugging info.. |
| 00:41.47 | n-iCe | bpun: thats all what I get |
| 00:41.48 | bpun | n-iCe, modinfo sn9c102 |
| 00:41.49 | mat__ | jpinx, i have remove and reinstall kde |
| 00:41.56 | mat__ | but not work... |
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| 00:42.11 | bpun | n-iCe, these are parameters u can use on the modprobe command with only that module... |
| 00:42.30 | n-iCe | bpun: http://sadasdasdoasdad.pastebin.com/m63c7eefe |
| 00:42.35 | bpun | n-iCe, i believe if ur webcam is funcational with this module.. it might just be a specific parameters somewhere... |
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| 00:44.17 | ghang | i really cannot setup my usb-soundcard , it comes out all the broken voice , pls , anyone can help me ? |
| 00:44.26 | n-iCe | bpun: what do you recommned |
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| 00:47.54 | TheSarge | see if it wasnt for all this automagic crap i could just replace debians non working xorg.conf with ubuntus working one! |
| 00:48.18 | ghang | i really cannot setup my usb-soundcard , it comes out all the broken voice , pls , anyone can help me ? my alsaconf even cannot detect my hardware ( i have already edit my /etc/modphrobe.d/sound but the alsaconf still cannot configure it |
| 00:48.34 | Zharf | "ubuntu" and "working" in the same sentence :o |
| 00:48.41 | TheSarge | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.02 | TheSarge | I hate ubuntu, but it setup my video right, debian did not :( |
| 00:49.40 | bpun | TheSarge, maybe ur still using ubuntu packages mixed with debian ones... |
| 00:49.41 | ghang | I hate ubuntu, but it setup my sound right, debian did not |
| 00:49.57 | TheSarge | bpun: No ubuntu is on a different disk completely |
| 00:50.19 | Zharf | ghang, any distribution that uses alsa does it wrong |
| 00:50.40 | bpun | my laptop is 6 years old and debian installed perfectly... |
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| 00:51.38 | ghang | Zharf: since i install amd64 , it cannot recognize my usb-sound card, it comeout broken sound like "zit zit zit" |
| 00:54.08 | SQlvpapir_ | ghang: are you using alsa? |
| 00:54.19 | ghang | yes i am using alsa |
| 00:54.20 | SQlvpapir_ | or nvm |
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| 00:54.57 | apostle | problems with sounds card....how can I confirm that correct driver is installed |
| 00:56.20 | jetscreamer | i hate ubuntu |
| 00:56.26 | jetscreamer | i configured my shit myself |
| 00:56.37 | jetscreamer | right |
| 00:56.52 | jetscreamer | !which driver |
| 00:56.52 | dpkg | hmm... driver locator is To work out what module you need to load for your pci card, try pasting lspci -n into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
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| 00:57.35 | seanp2k | hello, I was wondering if anyone is interested in helping me get swap working and then mdraid on a running system |
| 00:58.10 | seanp2k | I have googled and the solutions that i have found do not work in my situation |
| 00:58.19 | seanp2k | and frankly, I'm stumped. |
| 00:58.21 | ghang | OOOooo after i paste that , totally didnt see my AUDIO KONTROL 1 sound card |
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| 00:58.50 | apostle | 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
| 00:58.50 | apostle | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.52 | mrec | jetscreamer: avidemux is a nice idea but it doesn't work correctly |
| 00:59.07 | mrec | audio is totally wrong it mixes up the wrong sequences .. I'm testing it with musicvideos |
| 00:59.16 | TheSarge | I dont even know how to tell it what video mode to use with this automagical stuff there is no list in the xorg.conf |
| 00:59.22 | mrec | it's like a video has a totally different audio stream |
| 00:59.36 | mrec | but for testing it's sufficient :-) |
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| 01:00.30 | jetscreamer | mrec: check the fps ... are you doing pal/ntsc conversion? |
| 01:00.38 | jetscreamer | mrec: works fine here, win or lin |
| 01:00.47 | mrec | I'm just doing copy from PAL mpeg-ts -> mpeg |
| 01:00.54 | mrec | song 3 has audio from song 2 |
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| 01:01.16 | mischief6 | how can i set up debian so that i can run X/gdm/my de/wm only when i want? |
| 01:01.18 | mrec | I can write my own demuxer for it as soon as I know that it works out at least :-) |
| 01:01.41 | mrec | the optimized codec for the DSP has to support it then I'm fine |
| 01:01.44 | jetscreamer | mrec: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/index.html |
| 01:01.47 | mrec | on my embedded box |
| 01:02.00 | mrec | I'm fine with the result for testin! :-) |
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| 01:02.02 | mrec | testing* |
| 01:02.17 | mischief6 | mrec, what kind of embedded machine you have? |
| 01:02.32 | mrec | ARM, davinci low hearted stuff |
| 01:02.34 | jetscreamer | see also #mplayer |
| 01:02.45 | mrec | mplayer causes the box itself to crash already.. |
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| 01:02.47 | SQlvpapir_ | those guys are geniuses |
| 01:02.54 | mat__ | jelly-home, i have resolve :D |
| 01:02.56 | mrec | texas instruments has too less people to work on drivers and everything |
| 01:03.11 | adb | TheSarge: xorg.conf has many examples on net, try google it |
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| 01:03.19 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | when will unstable become a bit more usable ?? since it came out of freeze. has pretty unstable updates suggesting to remove important packages |
| 01:03.49 | mrec | c64+ developers are rare :) |
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| 01:04.02 | dondelelcaro | sh4d3sl4y3r_: uh... obviously, if the upgrade asks you to remove packages that you want, don't do that. |
| 01:04.03 | mat__ | jpinx, are you here? |
| 01:04.13 | TheSarge | adb: How will that help me? |
| 01:04.18 | dondelelcaro | sh4d3sl4y3r_: since new packages are constantly going into unstable, it's not like it's ever guaranteed for everything to be installable. |
| 01:04.28 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hmm thats true |
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| 01:05.48 | jetscreamer | mrec: use mencoder, not mplayer, to encode. i was ass-u-me-ing you weren't encoding on the embedded :)... course i didn't know you wanted to run it on embedded |
| 01:06.11 | mrec | jetscreamer: no I just want to convert vobs to mpeg2-PS for testing |
| 01:06.19 | mrec | one vob and I have that already :) |
| 01:06.21 | jetscreamer | mencoder should do you |
| 01:06.24 | TheSarge | I just need to know where the stuff that says "configured XXXX" is congigurable at, which file? |
| 01:06.26 | jetscreamer | 'should' |
| 01:06.36 | mrec | just the sync is broken .. for testing I absolutely don't care |
| 01:06.49 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: http://linux.hfds.com/files/xorg.conf for a messy example |
| 01:06.50 | mrec | the final implementation will have my own demuxer in it anyway |
| 01:06.53 | jetscreamer | or go to x.org |
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| 01:07.12 | mrec | I'm just not entirely done with the vob dvd demuxer yet |
| 01:07.19 | TheSarge | What do I need an example for? I know what an xorg.conf is supposed to look like... that isnt my problem |
| 01:07.22 | mrec | it's not 100% mpeg-ts |
| 01:07.27 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/index.html |
| 01:07.32 | jetscreamer | o |
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| 01:07.57 | TheSarge | I need to know where the configured device information is.. I want to use exactly what Ubuntu is using |
| 01:08.23 | jetscreamer | i thought you ddin't need an example |
| 01:08.32 | TheSarge | I don't! |
| 01:08.38 | TheSarge | When did I say that? |
| 01:08.41 | jetscreamer | define 'configured device information' |
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| 01:09.09 | TheSarge | that all my xorg.conf in ubuntu says is "configured device" |
| 01:09.23 | TheSarge | instead of video modes driver names.. etc |
| 01:09.30 | jetscreamer | it's a lable for the section |
| 01:09.35 | jetscreamer | label |
| 01:09.38 | jetscreamer | err |
| 01:09.46 | TheSarge | No... |
| 01:09.46 | jetscreamer | for that section |
| 01:10.08 | jetscreamer | Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" |
| 01:10.10 | jetscreamer | that? |
| 01:10.20 | jetscreamer | et al? |
| 01:10.21 | TheSarge | Its because of this automagic stuff, before you could see what driver it was using and what video modes..etc |
| 01:10.43 | TheSarge | Ya before it wouldnt say Configured mouse.. it would say what mouse |
| 01:11.10 | jetscreamer | how so |
| 01:11.22 | TheSarge | OMG nevermind dude |
| 01:11.26 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 01:11.34 | jetscreamer | YOU PROBABLY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PROTOCOL |
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| 01:11.46 | zinx | zomg protocols |
| 01:11.48 | TheSarge | The xorg.cong should say what driver it is using... |
| 01:12.01 | stew | TheSarge: its not supposed to by default |
| 01:12.02 | jetscreamer | mouse |
| 01:12.07 | TheSarge | not just "configured device" |
| 01:12.23 | TheSarge | It is when it is confugured and working |
| 01:12.26 | zinx | TheSarge: it's just a label |
| 01:12.35 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/index.html |
| 01:12.39 | zinx | it can be named anything |
| 01:12.44 | zinx | you can even call a mouse a keyboard if you want. |
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| 01:13.03 | TheSarge | My point is WTF am I supposed t see what driver it is using and what video mode? |
| 01:13.04 | zinx | i wouldn't recommend it, but you certainly can |
| 01:13.15 | pickcoder | look for device config for that label |
| 01:13.18 | jetscreamer | less /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 01:13.41 | TheSarge | See that is what I am saying before it was in the damn xorg.conf file |
| 01:13.49 | jetscreamer | yes we know |
| 01:13.52 | jetscreamer | well i do |
| 01:13.58 | TheSarge | So why isnt it now? |
| 01:14.04 | jetscreamer | new automagic |
| 01:14.12 | jetscreamer | edit it and put stuff if you want though |
| 01:14.13 | TheSarge | EXACTLY what I have been saying... |
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| 01:14.16 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i have a weird problem.... if i use default EXA with compiz enabled my gui is slow, like scrolling and stuff, if i use XAA , the problem is solved but no videos are played. |
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| 01:14.29 | TheSarge | the stupid automagic is retarded |
| 01:14.34 | pickcoder | TheSarge: so complain to the Xorg maintainers |
| 01:14.36 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | playing any video using XAA crashes the applications |
| 01:14.50 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: just cp your ubuntu xorg.conf, 'should' work |
| 01:14.50 | pickcoder | they'll direct you to the user list probably |
| 01:14.50 | TheSarge | Because of it I cant fix my xorg in debian |
| 01:15.04 | jetscreamer | wrong though |
| 01:15.04 | TheSarge | jetscreamer: It is Identical! |
| 01:15.05 | jetscreamer | you can |
| 01:15.08 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 01:15.08 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: huh? |
| 01:15.18 | jetscreamer | well get the old one out |
| 01:15.26 | jetscreamer | cp mine and edit it |
| 01:15.32 | jetscreamer | cp anybodys and edit it |
| 01:15.36 | jetscreamer | google |
| 01:15.51 | jetscreamer | /join #xorg |
| 01:15.52 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: the log file tells you precisely what driver it is using |
| 01:16.02 | jetscreamer | goes back to his poker |
| 01:16.09 | dondelelcaro | (and you can *still* override it in the xorg.conf if you want to) |
| 01:16.41 | jetscreamer | ah 5 min break |
| 01:16.54 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: exactly which one are you wanting to edit... the video? |
| 01:16.59 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: all I saved from the Ubuntu install was the xorg.cof because last time I set up a new linux distro that was all you needed to carry your xorg configuration to another machine |
| 01:17.11 | TheSarge | conf |
| 01:17.32 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: you used to need it, but it's not required for most common configurations |
| 01:17.33 | TheSarge | But now its useless i guess |
| 01:17.41 | stew | TheSarge: what is wrong with the current way X is working? what do you need to change? |
| 01:18.00 | TheSarge | Well it IS needed to easily migrate your video to another machine |
| 01:18.21 | TheSarge | stew: it isnt working, debain didnt set it up right, only ubuntu did |
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| 01:18.23 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: but in any event, if you're interested in our help, it'd be helpful if you stated what the problem is, what's going wrong, what you expected to happen, and what the log files say |
| 01:18.25 | stew | TheSarge: why is it needed? what is wrong with the way X is working now? |
| 01:18.40 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: oh i have maybe 7 times |
| 01:18.45 | jetscreamer | xorg.conf backups are like 70% of my files /etc/X11 |
| 01:18.46 | betz | Hi, what ftp server is debian using? i get ftp: connect: Connection refused after i type ftp localhost |
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| 01:18.57 | dondelelcaro | betz: whatever ftp server you install |
| 01:19.01 | dondelelcaro | betz: there isn't one installed by default |
| 01:19.05 | betz | aha |
| 01:19.07 | TheSarge | stew? I just told you it isnt working |
| 01:19.14 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: isn't working in what way? |
| 01:19.21 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: can you show us the log files? |
| 01:19.26 | TheSarge | I have already explained that |
| 01:19.32 | jetscreamer | oh hey this is the i810 stil TheSarge ? |
| 01:19.35 | betz | dondelelcaro: whats the standard? |
| 01:19.39 | stew | TheSarge: "isn't working" isn't descriptive enough for us to be able to help |
| 01:19.39 | dondelelcaro | betz: there isn't one |
| 01:19.49 | TheSarge | sure but you wont find anything useful not a single (EE) line |
| 01:19.54 | jetscreamer | you'll need to explain again to the extremely talented ppl who are trying to help you.. dondelelcaro and stew |
| 01:19.58 | stew | TheSarge: does it crash? do you get an error? is it running but at the wrong video mode? |
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| 01:20.06 | TheSarge | stew: I already explained exactly how it wasnt working 13 times |
| 01:20.13 | stew | TheSarge: ok, sorry to bother you |
| 01:20.21 | TheSarge | Its just a black screen |
| 01:20.26 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: you should make a file and post it |
| 01:20.28 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: well, we weren't paying attention to this channel then, so repeating may be useful |
| 01:20.43 | TheSarge | the channel is publicly logged |
| 01:20.45 | jetscreamer | then just spam the link when ppl ask you to tell what's wrong |
| 01:20.47 | dondelelcaro | betz: but some people use proftpd, other wuftpd, and there are a slew of others |
| 01:20.51 | TheSarge | I can get you the url? |
| 01:21.00 | jetscreamer | o i'm sorry we should grep our logs to help you] |
| 01:21.01 | pickcoder | oh geez |
| 01:21.12 | betz | dondelelcaro: ok, i'll try proftpd |
| 01:21.14 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: uh... I have logs, but I can't be bothered to read through them to help you. |
| 01:21.19 | betz | dondelelcaro: thanx |
| 01:21.24 | TheSarge | Well then don't? |
| 01:21.28 | jetscreamer | ooo |
| 01:21.41 | jetscreamer | did i mention one of the more talented in the channel? |
| 01:21.56 | dondelelcaro | betz: np; feel free to pick a different one later (and other people may have other recommendations) |
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| 01:22.19 | jetscreamer | is trying to tell you you're making an ass out of yourself w/o telling you.. too late |
| 01:22.36 | jetscreamer | i understand the frustration though |
| 01:23.08 | stew | betz: proftpd is a very common one, and therefore probably an easy one to get help with, but has had a few security problems recently (which are, of course, fixed as they are found). vsftpd is a well respected one. pure-ftpd is another... probably any will do |
| 01:23.15 | pickcoder | TheSarge: did you try the ctrl +/- to change resolution? |
| 01:23.20 | TheSarge | If I restart I will get to the graphical login screen, then when it loads a dm or wm it just goes black ctrl alt backspace ctrl alt +\- and manually restarting gdm does nothing... |
| 01:23.28 | TheSarge | pickcoder: Yes |
| 01:23.40 | jetscreamer | TheSarge: ftp://x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/i810.4.html might help you later |
| 01:23.45 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: if you get the graphical login screen, X is working |
| 01:23.54 | dondelelcaro | (at least, sort of working) |
| 01:24.08 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: Yes I know... It works untill i actually use it... |
| 01:24.34 | jetscreamer | you mean log in? |
| 01:24.41 | pickcoder | sounds like a refresh or resolution issue |
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| 01:25.06 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: so what happens when you log in remotely and see exactly what is being run? what does DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr; output from that remote login? |
| 01:25.29 | TheSarge | Its weird it was working before, then I added vga=799 to get smaller font in console, then it started doing this so I took out the vga line, but it still does it |
| 01:25.49 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: I have no way to login remotely |
| 01:26.02 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: then switch to a vt |
| 01:26.07 | dondelelcaro | (assuming that works) |
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| 01:26.34 | TheSarge | Yes I have been |
| 01:26.38 | TheSarge | I am in one now |
| 01:26.49 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: so what does DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr; output? |
| 01:27.28 | TheSarge | No protocol specified |
| 01:27.28 | TheSarge | Can't open display :0.0 |
| 01:27.48 | TheSarge | gdm is running right now |
| 01:27.52 | TheSarge | vt7 is just black |
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| 01:28.08 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: has gdm spawned anything? |
| 01:28.17 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: I dont know? |
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| 01:28.44 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: look at the output of ps axfu |
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| 01:29.09 | Gryfelhase | Hi. I made apt-get update. But it said, the xorg-packages where hold back. But I don't know the reason. |
| 01:29.13 | jetscreamer | wonders what happens if you disable/kill gdm and do startx |
| 01:29.13 | Gryfelhase | Any hints ? |
| 01:29.13 | TheSarge | that isnt in my path? |
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| 01:29.24 | asg | Gryfelhase: /msg dpkg held back |
| 01:29.25 | Gryfelhase | aehm... apt-get upgrade of course |
| 01:29.27 | bpun | !tell n-ice about sid |
| 01:29.36 | bpun | n-iCe, lenny is now the stable distro.. |
| 01:29.46 | jetscreamer | Gryfelhase: dist-upgrade maybe, if lenny.. don't do testing or sid atm |
| 01:29.51 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: I have no axfu in my $path |
| 01:29.56 | jetscreamer | dist-upgrade i mean |
| 01:30.29 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: uh... ps is, and axfu is an option to it |
| 01:30.37 | Gryfelhase | jetsc |
| 01:30.41 | TheSarge | didnt know that |
| 01:30.44 | Gryfelhase | grr |
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| 01:31.45 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: can I use grep to find something specific? |
| 01:32.33 | TheSarge | ps axfu| grep gdm maybe? |
| 01:33.04 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: just use less |
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| 01:33.28 | dondelelcaro | (ps axfu|less; /gdm^M) |
| 01:33.39 | TheSarge | I dont know how to read what I am seeing, but using grep it looks like X is a child of gdm |
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| 01:35.46 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: that command you gave me gives alot of output, so I am guessing yes it has spawned things |
| 01:35.55 | TheSarge | ps axfu|less; /gdm^M |
| 01:36.07 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: http://paste.debian.net/33012; for example is what you're looking for. |
| 01:36.08 | betz | dondelelcaro: i get '421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection' now when i try to ftp localhost |
| 01:36.45 | TheSarge | I can pastebin the output if you tell me howto output it to a file |
| 01:36.45 | dondelelcaro | betz: the default doesn't do anonymous ftp, iirc. |
| 01:36.47 | pickcoder | betz: look in /etc/default/ for a config file.. it may be disabled by default |
| 01:36.53 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ps axfu > foofile |
| 01:37.23 | bpun | betz, what ip and port# is ur ftp running on? |
| 01:37.29 | TheSarge | will ps axfu|less; /gdm^M |
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| 01:37.38 | TheSarge | > file work? |
| 01:37.49 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: no, because that's a sequence of keys to press, not a command. |
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| 01:38.05 | dondelelcaro | (/gdm^M means, type /gdm, then press return, to search for gdm in the output) |
| 01:38.13 | bpun | TheSarge, try xclip and use middle-mouse button |
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| 01:38.58 | bpun | TheSarge, cat filename.txt | xclip -- then can paste at pastebin.ca |
| 01:39.19 | betz | pickcoder: the proftpd file RUN variable in /etc/default/ is set on 'yes' |
| 01:39.28 | bpun | betz, netstat |
| 01:39.45 | pickcoder | netstat -an | grep :21 |
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| 01:39.57 | dondelelcaro | betz: so you'll have to do something like ftp foouser@localhost; |
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| 01:40.31 | dondelelcaro | betz: but let me back up here; is there any reason why you need an ftp server? [You're almost always better of using scp or rsync over ssh] |
| 01:40.32 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/f4bd4355f |
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| 01:40.54 | bpun | betrayed_, ftp is harder to work thru firewalls... i often tell people to use ssh (filezilla does sftp over ssh)(sftp is already available under ssh daemon) |
| 01:41.09 | betz | dondelelcaro: i'm setting up netbeans, and i want to save remotely |
| 01:41.31 | bpun | TheSarge, x is broked? |
| 01:41.42 | TheSarge | bpun: kinda |
| 01:41.44 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ok, you're not actually logged in. It's just running the gdm greeter |
| 01:41.44 | pickcoder | pictures bean pods dangling from fiber runs |
| 01:42.05 | dondelelcaro | betz: netbeans supports ssh authetnication, so you should be able to use that to save files remotely |
| 01:42.07 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: because i hit ctrl aly backspace |
| 01:42.08 | bpun | TheSarge, what are u trying to remote? X via ssh or vnc ? |
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| 01:42.22 | TheSarge | bpun: this is local |
| 01:42.43 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ok, but now you can't see X at all? |
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| 01:42.49 | bpun | TheSarge, then why are u talking about gdm? |
| 01:43.06 | dondelelcaro | bpun: uh... because he's using gdm? |
| 01:43.08 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: ya vt7 is just black |
| 01:43.22 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: restart gdm, then try to login, and see what has happend using ps axfu again. |
| 01:43.24 | bpun | dondelelcaro, i'm referring to his paste output , he has nano on his xorg.conf file |
| 01:43.54 | dondelelcaro | bpun: so? |
| 01:44.00 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: restarting gdm with /etc/init.d/gdm restart just makes more blackness and some clicking |
| 01:44.11 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: and no output? |
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| 01:44.23 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: just black |
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| 01:44.35 | betz | dondelelcaro: could be, but i really need to get this ftp server running. Also for clients, so that i dont need to give a ssh access to them, just ftp |
| 01:44.36 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ok; paste your Xorg.0.log if you can |
| 01:44.47 | bpun | thinks TheSarge is terminally racist |
| 01:44.56 | TheSarge | I love the terminal |
| 01:44.57 | bpun | ;) |
| 01:44.57 | elky | freez3, is on-join spamming here |
| 01:44.58 | dondelelcaro | betz: Well, then you just need to configure it |
| 01:45.07 | TheSarge | I just want x for ff and some games |
| 01:45.09 | betz | dondelelcaro: if i do 'ftp username@domainname' i get unkown host |
| 01:45.26 | pickcoder | poof |
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| 01:46.24 | betz | dondelelcaro: on the server there is plesk installed. Are the ftp accouunts that i created there already accessible with ftp then? or do i have to do something more? |
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| 01:46.56 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/f6a4b3d4e |
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| 01:47.03 | bpun | betz, plesk.. requires nothing else to be installed... i believe it's made for bare systems and is closed source... |
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| 01:47.45 | bpun | betz, u should hire someone to administer your 200 domains... |
| 01:47.47 | bpun | ;) |
| 01:47.55 | avu | it's closed source, not part of debian, and apart from that, utter crap |
| 01:48.01 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: the log is really what I need to see, not the xonfiguration |
| 01:48.12 | TheSarge | oops sorry one sec |
| 01:48.18 | avu | the whole concept of 'administer your server with a few clicks without knowing anything about it' is flawed IMHO |
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| 01:48.47 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/f16d85277 |
| 01:49.11 | pickcoder | avu: and I wonder why people still manage to blow themselves up at petro stations |
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| 01:49.37 | bpun | avu, ur right it is total crap... i can't believe it costs so much money for their cheap php system.. |
| 01:50.48 | bpun | pickcoder, and then the come here even when its supposed to be click and go.. and expect us to setup their triple digit domain servers.... i hate these people.. |
| 01:51.16 | bpun | is sick of people who ask to setup non-debian related packages... |
| 01:51.39 | pickcoder | bpun: is it that much of a deal breaker if you offer config services? |
| 01:51.46 | pickcoder | instead of plesk |
| 01:52.12 | avu | they'll be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes! right after the guys from the marketing departement of the sirius cybernetics corporation. |
| 01:52.51 | bpun | pickcoder, well whatever the case.. i'm not doing his plesk setup for him.. unless he wants to pay me :) |
| 01:53.14 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: I take it by the long pause that this isnt an easy fix... |
| 01:53.28 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: does your monitor support 1680x1050? (Is it an lcd panel?) |
| 01:53.53 | pickcoder | wide screen at that, eh? |
| 01:54.17 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: No and gnome is set to use 1600x1200 or 1024x768 I dont even know where it would have gotten that mode from |
| 01:54.28 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ok, well, that's your problem |
| 01:54.42 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: well why does it use that mode? |
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| 01:55.29 | bpun | TheSarge, i already told u about xclip if u want to use its resources |
| 01:55.49 | pickcoder | TheSarge: did you have a chance to pick resolutions during the desktop install? |
| 01:55.53 | bpun | TheSarge, other than that.. if someon ask ur monitor support.. we can only guess ur monitor can support up to 800x600 |
| 01:55.55 | TheSarge | bpun: I have been pasting things just fine lol but thanks |
| 01:56.09 | TheSarge | pickcoder: no but it was working fine |
| 01:56.17 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: the monitor probably advertises it wrongly |
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| 01:56.32 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: but anyway, you can force the video mode in your xorg.conf |
| 01:56.45 | pickcoder | wouldn't dpkg-reconfigure be easier |
| 01:56.49 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: Okay can you tell me what line to add plese |
| 01:56.57 | dondelelcaro | dpkg-reconfigure doesn't configure xorg.conf anymore |
| 01:57.03 | pickcoder | nice |
| 01:57.08 | TheSarge | pickcoder: NO! then I will have to find all my vsync and hsync settings |
| 01:57.42 | TheSarge | I thought you meant xorg-reconfigure |
| 01:57.49 | mat__ | hei guys, i have this problem: http://rafb.net/p/pfZFNj26.html |
| 01:57.50 | bpun | thinks xdebconfigurator is a package to help configure x |
| 01:58.14 | Lectus | hey... I removed swfdec-gnome, but aptitude wants to remove the full gnome... why? |
| 01:58.14 | stew | "X -configure" is the alternative |
| 01:58.40 | TheSarge | Yes and then you have to configure everything up to hsynch vsync manually |
| 01:58.52 | TheSarge | hsync |
| 01:58.52 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: nah, you just specify which mode you want |
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| 01:59.03 | TheSarge | Nope I have tried several times |
| 01:59.09 | TheSarge | It wants hsync and Vsyn |
| 01:59.18 | TheSarge | Vsync it asks me every single time |
| 01:59.30 | TheSarge | I had to look up my monitor online |
| 01:59.38 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: uh... nothing asks you for it if you're just editing xorg.conf |
| 02:00.08 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: you just shove Modes "1600x1200" "1024x768" into a Display subsection |
| 02:00.14 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: I was referring to x reconfigure |
| 02:00.38 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: where though? |
| 02:01.02 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: under the Screen Section |
| 02:01.20 | TheSarge | okay lemme try |
| 02:01.25 | pickcoder | Look at depth "24" inless you plan on using 16-bit color |
| 02:01.27 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: man xorg.conf; for complete details on it |
| 02:01.39 | pickcoder | or 8-bit.. |
| 02:02.04 | pickcoder | who in the world still needs 1 and 8-bit color |
| 02:02.44 | Caelum | how do you see which dist a package is from? |
| 02:02.55 | n-iCe | why using modprobe I get http://asasasas.pastebin.com/mf88ca4a always |
| 02:02.59 | dondelelcaro | Caelum: you can't directly |
| 02:03.05 | Caelum | dondelelcaro: aww |
| 02:03.06 | dondelelcaro | Caelum: but apt-cache policy foopkg; may help you |
| 02:03.21 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: like this? http://pastebin.com/f2e9d21bd |
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| 02:03.56 | Caelum | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 02:04.08 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: the Modes go in a SubSection "Display" EndSubSection subsection of the screen section. |
| 02:04.23 | TheSarge | that was all greek to me? |
| 02:04.30 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: man xorg.conf; there's an example |
| 02:04.45 | TheSarge | I see the example I dont understand |
| 02:04.59 | pickcoder | TheSarge: do you have an original copy of the xorg.conf or are you trying to hack the one from Ubuntu? |
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| 02:05.12 | TheSarge | pickcoder: I am hacking the debian one |
| 02:05.24 | pickcoder | it's not that complicated.. seriously |
| 02:05.32 | bpun | hates ubuntu an utnubu |
| 02:05.44 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: what about it? |
| 02:06.00 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: I dont get what i need to put... |
| 02:06.14 | pickcoder | TheSarge: http://www.pastebin.ca/1387647 |
| 02:06.17 | bpun | hacking? hahaha.. more like monkeying ;) |
| 02:06.38 | pickcoder | as long as it's not "corrupting" |
| 02:07.32 | bpun | it's like did u get the "x" rated configuration from the naked people we like to call ubuntu? |
| 02:07.34 | bpun | lol |
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| 02:09.36 | apostle | I have on onboard sound card that was working perfectly and after I had to replace my power supply...not longer works...can someone help me find out if Debian can't find it now? |
| 02:09.52 | bpun | also if the fonts which might likely not be shown properly after visual inspection ... use DisplaySize in xorg.conf (u'd have to calculate its value manually) |
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| 02:10.23 | apostle | 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
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| 02:10.43 | TheSarge | I give up |
| 02:11.01 | stew | apostle: have you tried alsaconf? |
| 02:11.07 | stew | apostle: afaik that uses snd-hda-intel |
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| 02:11.47 | bpun | TheSarge, is it two ported? try using lspci and id# string in for xorg.conf |
| 02:12.12 | apostle | stew, yes I have |
| 02:12.13 | n-iCe | @Microdia |
| 02:12.24 | n-iCe | !Microdia |
| 02:12.24 | bpun | n-iCe, are u still getting modprobe errors? |
| 02:12.25 | stew | apostle: does alsaconf find it? |
| 02:12.28 | n-iCe | bpun: yes |
| 02:12.41 | n-iCe | And can't make my webcams work |
| 02:12.53 | bpun | n-iCe, i checked there are others reporting that error.. but i have no clue what's its about.. |
| 02:13.31 | apostle | stew running it again now |
| 02:14.30 | apostle | stew it found the card but nothing coming out of it |
| 02:14.32 | apostle | :( |
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| 02:15.00 | stew | apostle: are both pcm and master channels turned up AND unmuted? |
| 02:15.18 | apostle | stew yes |
| 02:15.34 | apostle | is it possible something happened with Power Supply |
| 02:15.40 | apostle | yesterday and had to replace the unit |
| 02:15.48 | apostle | and the sound card is the only thing not work |
| 02:15.54 | apostle | its on onboard soundcard |
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| 02:16.20 | stew | apostle: how are you trying to play sound |
| 02:16.27 | apostle | with the test |
| 02:16.27 | pickcoder | TheSarge: is there not a "Screens" section? |
| 02:16.34 | apostle | and a movie file too |
| 02:17.14 | stew | apostle: are you using the right jack on the sound card? |
| 02:17.15 | TheSarge | pickcoder: what are you talking about? |
| 02:17.26 | pickcoder | in the freaking xorg.conf that you're editing! |
| 02:17.27 | apostle | stew, triple checked it YES |
| 02:17.28 | pickcoder | geez |
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| 02:17.31 | apostle | will check again |
| 02:17.32 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/f2a58f402 |
| 02:17.37 | TheSarge | This way? |
| 02:17.44 | pickcoder | I pasted a working example for you |
| 02:17.56 | pickcoder | all you have to do is add supported resolutions |
| 02:18.11 | TheSarge | pickcoder: I apreciate the help but we got it thanks. |
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| 02:18.31 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: ? http://pastebin.com/f2a58f402 |
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| 02:19.37 | bpun | TheSarge, is the x log saying its using the correct vga port? |
| 02:20.01 | TheSarge | I guess not cause I am still getting a black screen when I restart gdm, is there something I need to refresh or update? |
| 02:20.34 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: You there? |
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| 02:21.09 | apostle | stew, alsaconf finds it but I hear nothing I tried headphones and 2 sets of speakers |
| 02:21.29 | TheSarge | updateb is just hanging |
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| 02:22.15 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: it goes after the Identifier normally, but it should still work. Put the new log up. |
| 02:22.16 | stew | apostle: can you show us the output of amixer? |
| 02:22.25 | Geier | Hi folks |
| 02:22.35 | stew | apostle: and what does 'cat /proc/asound/version' say? |
| 02:22.38 | sepult_ | TheSarge: do you have 2 cards ? |
| 02:22.42 | TheSarge | no |
| 02:23.07 | bpun | TheSarge, there are no 2 vga port heads on that video card? |
| 02:23.11 | stew | TheSarge: is the login screen at the correct resolution? |
| 02:23.15 | apostle | stew, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16 |
| 02:23.28 | sepult_ | TheSarge: you sure driver and PCI are set correct ? |
| 02:23.30 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/f52a58dfb |
| 02:23.57 | stew | apostle: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 02:23.58 | TheSarge | Sorry i can only listen to one person at a time or I get waaaay confused |
| 02:24.09 | Geier | I got a problem with my Ralink rt61 card on debian sid. When I bring up the interface, it says "ioctl[SIOSCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported". I'm using the enhanced legacy drivers |
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| 02:24.45 | apostle | stew, http://paste.debian.net/33014/ |
| 02:24.51 | TheSarge | bpun: No there is one |
| 02:25.05 | apostle | stew, 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 02:25.49 | TheSarge | sepult_: Yes I am since it was just working yesterday and if I restart I can get the graphical login manager to come up |
| 02:26.15 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: did you see the log link? |
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| 02:26.41 | bpun | Geier, on the newest kernel? |
| 02:26.43 | apostle | stew, I don't understand |
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| 02:26.53 | apostle | stew, could it be the soundcard itself |
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| 02:27.22 | Geier | bpun: kernel is 2.6.26.-1-amd64 |
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| 02:28.13 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: ok, it's using 1600x1200 now, so at least that's better. |
| 02:28.21 | sepult_ | TheSarge: i thought you said that you can't get gdm to start |
| 02:28.39 | stew | apostle: it could be, sure |
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| 02:29.08 | apostle | stew, this is so strange....feels like I have tried everything |
| 02:29.13 | GinoLinux | Ok... so I need an initrd and I compiled and installed my kernel.... but I don't have an initrd |
| 02:29.15 | dondelelcaro | TheSarge: if it's still displaying black, you may wnat to try a cold restart. the driver and everything else looks fine |
| 02:29.16 | GinoLinux | how do I get one |
| 02:29.32 | stew | apostle: the only thing i'd guess to change in there is iec958 and the "Stereo Downmix" |
| 02:30.08 | stew | apostle: you can also try "aptitude install build-essential module-assistant && m-a a-i alsa" which would upgrade you from 1.0.16 to 1.0.17 |
| 02:30.36 | pickcoder | TheSarge: which refresh rate(s) is 1600x1200 supported for your monitor? |
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| 02:31.15 | forrestv | how do i change my arch? arm was renamed to armel. |
| 02:31.18 | pickcoder | if all else fails drop the available resolutions to 800x600 and 640x480 and see if it works |
| 02:31.28 | sepult_ | TheSarge: try depth 16 |
| 02:31.28 | pickcoder | TheSarge: this isn't on a KVM is it? |
| 02:31.42 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: Well ya I have been able to get the graphical login screen to come up after restart always its just after I try to login it goes black and wont come back |
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| 02:32.06 | TheSarge | pickcoder: no |
| 02:32.07 | doc|work | is there something wrong with this: */1 * * * * touch /tmp/touchfile ? |
| 02:32.15 | doc|work | (for a user crontab) |
| 02:32.20 | TheSarge | sepult_: 24 has always worked before, in gentoo and ubuntu |
| 02:32.28 | pickcoder | sepult_: depth shouldn't affect it |
| 02:32.36 | n-iCe | who was assisting me? |
| 02:32.44 | pickcoder | I've had refresh rate issue before with LCDs |
| 02:32.54 | TheSarge | its not an lcd |
| 02:32.58 | TheSarge | its a crt |
| 02:33.08 | TheSarge | Cathode Ray Tube |
| 02:33.21 | bpun | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.22 | Sashi | hey needing a UNBIASED op |
| 02:33.24 | Sashi | vmwar or en |
| 02:33.25 | Sashi | xen |
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| 02:33.28 | Sashi | which is better |
| 02:33.49 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: Okay Ill restart brb |
| 02:33.53 | TheSarge | init 6 |
| 02:33.55 | TheSarge | oops |
| 02:34.00 | apostle | stew, my board is a m2npv-vm |
| 02:34.04 | sepult_ | lol |
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| 02:34.55 | pickcoder | grumbles |
| 02:35.04 | sepult_ | ansi/iso C |
| 02:35.07 | sepult_ | uuups |
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| 02:35.20 | GinoLinux | needs help with his new 2.6.29 kernel |
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| 02:36.19 | White_Rook | what package contains killall? ive got a fresh etch install which doesn't have it... |
| 02:36.29 | doc|work | anyone? |
| 02:36.52 | stew | White_Rook: psmisc (see /msg dpkg apt-file) |
| 02:36.53 | White_Rook | only killall5 and it doesn't work the same way |
| 02:36.59 | adb | !tell White_Rook about search |
| 02:37.38 | bpun | n-iCe, u still getting modprobe errors? |
| 02:37.48 | bpun | n-iCe, u can always try another kernel.. |
| 02:38.38 | GinoLinux | White_Rook: it should be in binutils |
| 02:39.29 | pickcoder | GinoLinux: no it's in psmisc |
| 02:39.35 | pickcoder | <echo> |
| 02:39.38 | GinoLinux | ah |
| 02:39.55 | GinoLinux | my kernel needs an initrd |
| 02:40.33 | pickcoder | !tell GinoLinux about kp-mantra |
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| 02:40.45 | White_Rook | yup was in psmisc thanks |
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| 02:41.26 | GinoLinux | .... I didn't use make-kpkg to compile it |
| 02:42.30 | apostle | stew, would it matter if I disconnected the digital audio connector |
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| 02:42.34 | n-iCe | bac |
| 02:42.34 | apostle | thats the only change I made |
| 02:42.39 | n-iCe | back |
| 02:42.41 | apostle | stew, I don't see why it would matter |
| 02:43.24 | stew | apostle: i doubt it |
| 02:44.12 | pickcoder | unless the card is set to output digital only |
| 02:44.40 | apostle | stew, the motherboard supports a front audio connector modules |
| 02:45.11 | apostle | could it be getting mixed up some where with the front and back connectors...note that I don't have a front connector..which is the reason I disconnected the cable |
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| 02:49.09 | doc|work | is there something wrong with this for a user crontab: */1 * * * * touch /tmp/touchfile ? |
| 02:49.57 | Kamping_Kaiser | looks ok |
| 02:50.29 | doc|work | hmmm, then it seems I have another problem |
| 02:50.37 | doc|work | anyone recommend a specific cron daemon? |
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| 02:51.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | whats happening? |
| 02:51.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | or not happening |
| 02:51.15 | doc|work | nothing :) |
| 02:51.19 | ddalton | is here an appropriate place to request help with bitlbee? since no one is responding in their channel |
| 02:51.20 | doc|work | aww, too slow |
| 02:51.23 | ddalton | bitlbee* |
| 02:51.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, hehe |
| 02:51.46 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: I was trying to use that to see if it was even being executed, seems not :/ |
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| 02:52.10 | vyrus001 | anybody else running linux on an hp mini 1k? its got a marvell 88e8040 that for some reason likes to not exsist no matter what kernel mod i use, then some times i restart it and it works inexplicitly? |
| 02:52.21 | scorche | looks at vyrus001 |
| 02:52.22 | GinoLinux | I don't know if the person who helped me earlier is in here... but I asked how to set up an initrd and he asked what problem I was having and I said "I'm not having a problem... I know that my system won't boot without one... and so he asked if filesystem support was compiled into the kernel and I said "uhh ya, the jfs file system is compiled in not a module" and so he said "ye of little faith"... and yet my computer won't boot, |
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| 02:53.05 | White_Rook | deeper into the rabbit hole |
| 02:53.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, is that a user crontab? |
| 02:54.29 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: yep |
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| 02:55.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, i have MAILTO=address@example.com set in my crontab so it emails me the output of commands. perhaps set that and use echo "test" to test |
| 02:55.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | rather then trying touch a file. |
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| 02:56.01 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: hmmm, ok |
| 02:56.16 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: that works out of the box? |
| 02:56.20 | doc|work | i.e. just works |
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| 02:56.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, it works if you have something which can send email from the box (eg, ssmtp or exim). dont know how 'ootb' your system is :) |
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| 02:57.08 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: hehe, ok, thanks |
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| 03:01.12 | nik_ | is there no package for dillo in debian? |
| 03:01.39 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: nothing |
| 03:01.52 | jpinx | judd; versions dillo |
| 03:01.53 | judd | jpinx: dillo -- etch: 0.8.5-4.1 sid: 0.8.6-3 |
| 03:02.10 | jpinx | nik_: ^^ |
| 03:02.39 | nik_ | `aptitude search dillo` in lenny brings up nothing |
| 03:02.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, i'm trying it here |
| 03:02.48 | nik_ | why is it gone in lenny? |
| 03:03.01 | jpinx | nik_: did you see what i just pulled up for you? |
| 03:03.07 | nik_ | yes |
| 03:03.17 | nik_ | where is the lenny version? |
| 03:03.30 | jpinx | there doesn't appear to be one |
| 03:03.37 | nik_ | why not? |
| 03:03.40 | jpinx | you might be able to backport the version in sid |
| 03:03.45 | nik_ | hmm |
| 03:03.53 | nik_ | maybe i'll just upgrade to sid :) |
| 03:03.54 | jpinx | why does the sun shine? |
| 03:03.57 | nik_ | thanks for your help |
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| 03:04.25 | jpinx | ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do - and die. ;) |
| 03:04.44 | GinoLinux | Alfred Lord Tennyson |
| 03:05.00 | jpinx | wondered if anyone would spot it;) |
| 03:05.20 | GinoLinux | I did |
| 03:05.20 | nik_ | did he write ulysses? |
| 03:05.32 | jpinx | probably not a perfect quote, but close enough |
| 03:05.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, my cron emails me saying `/bin/sh: touch: command not found`. check your crons path(s) |
| 03:05.44 | jpinx | No that was James Joyce |
| 03:05.53 | nik_ | not that ulysses |
| 03:06.07 | nik_ | the one about odysseus |
| 03:06.19 | jpinx | Homer? |
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| 03:06.45 | nik_ | i thought there was another by alfred lorf tennyson... nevermind |
| 03:06.45 | GinoLinux | yes |
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| 03:06.49 | GinoLinux | that was homer |
| 03:06.50 | jpinx | nik_: join #debian-offtopic before we get flamed here ;) |
| 03:06.53 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: ah, I thought you just put in the mailto, give me a couple of mins to see if adding the command changes anything |
| 03:07.10 | doc|work | I was expecting an empty file |
| 03:07.13 | doc|work | er, email |
| 03:08.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, my crontab looks like this: http://paste.debian.net/33016/ |
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| 03:08.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | (obviously, i had your command in there before) |
| 03:08.58 | GinoLinux | and I knew that was Alfred Lord Tennyson because it's quoted in clue |
| 03:09.04 | n-iCe | what's better made in linux than in Windows? |
| 03:09.20 | doc|work | n-iCe: the trolls |
| 03:09.27 | Geier | lol |
| 03:09.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | haha |
| 03:09.45 | n-iCe | :p |
| 03:10.09 | gparent | n-iCe: The mascot |
| 03:10.49 | n-iCe | you ruined it all |
| 03:10.51 | n-iCe | lol |
| 03:11.07 | doc|work | stabs his network |
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| 03:11.46 | bananahands | what does (S) mean when it appears next to a drive in a RAID array? |
| 03:12.43 | maxagaz | i need to use a camera which has an ip, how to use it on linux ? which application should i use ? |
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| 03:14.16 | bananahands | maxagaz: have to tried F-spot photo manager? |
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| 03:14.58 | doc|work | man, you get rightly screwed when screen itself locks up :( |
| 03:15.10 | maxagaz | bananahands, i'm not sure we are talking about the same thing |
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| 03:15.45 | bananahands | sorry I didn't see IP |
| 03:16.01 | maxagaz | bananahands, i need to do video surveillance with ip camera |
| 03:16.23 | bananahands | "ip"? |
| 03:18.11 | pickcoder | maxagaz: look at zoneminder |
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| 03:18.19 | pickcoder | I doubt it's packaged |
| 03:18.30 | maxagaz | pickcoder, ok, thanks |
| 03:18.32 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: right, so, mail from that box is definitely working, but the cron's not :/ |
| 03:18.44 | doc|work | it's like it's not even trying to execute it |
| 03:19.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, :\ whats the system version? |
| 03:19.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | fwiw, i have 'anacron' and 'cron' installed. |
| 03:19.41 | doc|work | yeah, I have those and fcron installed |
| 03:19.55 | doc|work | have disabled everything except cron |
| 03:20.05 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: system version? as in distro version? |
| 03:20.09 | doc|work | etch |
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| 03:20.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | not aware of anything odd with etch and cron. |
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| 03:20.58 | doc|work | how many cron daemons should I be running? |
| 03:21.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, so whats your current setup, does cron have a mailto? did you set a custom $PATH? |
| 03:21.21 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: how do I check those? |
| 03:21.29 | doc|work | is a programmer, not a sysadmin :) |
| 03:21.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, crontab -l . your output would look something like mine in the pastebin |
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| 03:22.55 | Theoden | ANyone else noticing anything wierd when trying to update from the debian repos? |
| 03:22.56 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: ah, no, mine was just */1 * * * * MAILTO=dave@domain.tld touch /tmp/touchfile |
| 03:23.05 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: has worked in the past without modification |
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| 03:23.37 | doc|work | I'll set an absolute path |
| 03:23.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, i suggest you custom set your path |
| 03:23.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | nod. |
| 03:23.43 | doc|work | for the executable |
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| 03:26.28 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: well it only seems to work if I use 1024x768, which sucks cause this monitor can do alot higher I want at least 1280x1024 |
| 03:27.22 | TheSarge | Could this mean my h or vsync's arent set correctly? |
| 03:27.31 | Theoden | Anyone else today getting errors when trying to update from the debian repos? |
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| 03:28.34 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: ya alive? |
| 03:28.46 | maxagaz | pickcoder, zoneminder is packaged |
| 03:29.25 | TheSarge | maybe I am using the wrong driver.../ |
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| 03:29.55 | Theoden | :/ |
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| 03:30.24 | TheSarge | and whats weird is if i change the resolutions to have anything higher than 1024x768 first it won't work even if I change it back to 1024x768 and restart gdm, I have to restart |
| 03:31.26 | TheSarge | dondelelcaro: i have the ubuntu log now, the xorg one that worked, wanna see it? |
| 03:31.58 | sepult_ | TheSarge: how did you get the module ? |
| 03:32.00 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: no change :/ |
| 03:32.18 | TheSarge | sepult_: huh? |
| 03:32.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, i dunno whats going on :( |
| 03:32.30 | doc|work | indeed |
| 03:32.37 | sepult_ | TheSarge: the driver for the graphics card |
| 03:32.42 | TheSarge | sepult_: I didn't get anything it was all setup automagicly |
| 03:32.51 | doc|work | Kamping_Kaiser: is there something you need to do to enable user cron jobs? |
| 03:33.03 | TheSarge | its an intel i810 series intergrated card |
| 03:33.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | doc|work, not that i'm aware of. not on the standard shipped cron at any rate |
| 03:33.56 | doc|work | gah |
| 03:34.27 | sepult_ | doc|work: anacron ? |
| 03:34.41 | doc|work | sepult_: I tried the boxed cron, then anacron, same result |
| 03:34.50 | stew | TheSarge: if you have the xorg.conf that worked they way you wanted with ubuntu, just use that |
| 03:35.00 | doc|work | starts anacron to check it |
| 03:35.30 | sepult_ | doc|work: have them both, one should be a dependency of the other |
| 03:35.39 | doc|work | sepult_: and both running? |
| 03:35.43 | sepult_ | doc|work: yes |
| 03:35.47 | doc|work | ok |
| 03:35.48 | doc|work | done |
| 03:36.08 | TheSarge | stew: we had this discussion before... its useless its exactly the same as my current one, the actual configurations arent kept there anymore... |
| 03:36.10 | sepult_ | cron will actually start anacron and that one the jobs |
| 03:36.13 | doc|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.22 | doc|work | sepult_: ah, ok, cool |
| 03:36.45 | sepult_ | it will run them by run-parts |
| 03:36.54 | sepult_ | so grep for run-parts |
| 03:36.55 | TheSarge | it was all setup automagicly so nothing of use is in that file |
| 03:37.05 | doc|work | sepult_: nothing |
| 03:37.36 | TheSarge | Thats why I am pissed because before all of this automgic bs you could easily take xorg.conf's from one distro to another and know its gunna work |
| 03:38.02 | sepult_ | doc|work: ensure, cron is started in your runlevels, normally setup should do it |
| 03:38.17 | stew | TheSarge: you still can |
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| 03:38.33 | stew | TheSarge: what is wrong with editing the configuration from X -configure? |
| 03:38.34 | sepult_ | doc|work: if however something got wrong....you should check i mean |
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| 03:40.24 | TheSarge | stew: What are you talking abot no you can't there is nothing useful in xorg.conf after it is automagicly configured, absolutely nothing... |
| 03:40.35 | stew | TheSarge: sure there is |
| 03:41.09 | stew | TheSarge: it would be fully specified with Modes and Screens and modelines, you could remove the modes from there you don't want to use |
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| 03:41.45 | doc|work | sepult_: would you recommend fcron or anacron? |
| 03:41.55 | stew | TheSarge: it would be closer to the xorg.conf that you are pissed you donl't have now |
| 03:41.56 | doc|work | fcron was in runlevel but anacron wasn't |
| 03:43.00 | TheSarge | stew: No there isnt any modelines omfg.. there is nothing after an install I am sorry you are wrong, if it is automagicly configured there is nothing not even the driver name |
| 03:43.10 | sepult_ | doc|work: anacron |
| 03:43.13 | doc|work | sepult_: thanks |
| 03:43.15 | sepult_ | doc|work: fcron is more basic |
| 03:43.32 | stew | TheSarge: show me the xorg.conf that "X -configure" produced |
| 03:43.51 | stew | TheSarge: there would DEFINATELY be a driver name, and a list of modes |
| 03:43.56 | doc|work | sepult_: ok, going to reboot the machine and see if it comes up properly |
| 03:43.58 | TheSarge | who is talking about X -configure |
| 03:44.04 | TheSarge | Your confused |
| 03:44.16 | stew | TheSarge: i'm not confused |
| 03:44.24 | stew | TheSarge: i'm talkiong about X -configure |
| 03:44.25 | TheSarge | I am talking about how it is configured automaticly at install |
| 03:44.28 | stew | 23:38 < stew> TheSarge: what is wrong with editing the configuration from X -configure? |
| 03:44.52 | stew | TheSarge: yes, and you have made it clear that you don't know what to do with that one, you want one that is fully specified. and X -configure is the way to get what you want |
| 03:45.05 | TheSarge | And i was saying it sucks you cant just take your xorg.conf when it is setup correctly automaticly at install and use it on other installs |
| 03:45.13 | stew | you can |
| 03:45.54 | TheSarge | stew: wrong again. I have made that one work, but it won't work with anything higher than 1024x768 when my monitor supports much higher |
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| 03:46.10 | trelane | what's the apt equivalent of rpm -qa? |
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| 03:46.13 | stew | trelane: aptitude search '~i' |
| 03:46.34 | stew | TheSarge: ok, what is wrong with what I am sayin gthen? |
| 03:46.43 | Xenguy | gawd I hate aptitude's search syntax |
| 03:46.45 | stew | TheSarge: it sounds like you don't yet have a working xorg.conf, right? |
| 03:46.46 | trelane | stew: nice, I hadn't considered aptitude :) |
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| 03:47.16 | stew | trelane: aptitude's searching can do tons of stuff if you bother to learn the syntax, which few people do :) |
| 03:47.36 | TheSarge | stew, am i not speaking in english? Yes, I do have a working xorg.conf, but it won't work with anything higher than 1024x768 and my monitor supports much higher. |
| 03:47.50 | stew | TheSarge: are you looking for help with that? |
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| 03:48.38 | trelane | TheSarge: your attitude sucks if you're asking for help, be nice to the stew, or eat the stew. Didn't your mom teach you to not play with food? |
| 03:48.38 | TheSarge | stew how would using a different means of configuring something that already works to a certain point, fix the part that doesnt work? |
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| 03:49.00 | stew | TheSarge: do you think it is possible that by using a different xorg.conf you could possibly get x working the way you want? |
| 03:49.00 | TheSarge | trelane: I really don't need the bait right now, please stop. |
| 03:49.21 | stew | TheSarge: or do you think that it is impossible to fix by specifying a different xorg.conf? |
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| 03:49.38 | TheSarge | stew: how is using a different one different from editing my current half working one |
| 03:49.38 | stew | TheSarge: I believe that is is possible to fix the problem you are having by using a different xorg.conf |
| 03:49.54 | phobos | anyone in here familiar with kopete? |
| 03:49.58 | TheSarge | stew: Okay I am all ears. |
| 03:50.20 | stew | TheSarge: will you try X -configure? |
| 03:50.39 | TheSarge | stew: sure. Trying now |
| 03:51.37 | stew | TheSarge: and trelane is right, your attitude in here does very consistently suck. you would get much better help if you would improve your attitude |
| 03:52.01 | stew | TheSarge: i try very hard to resist trying to help you anymore, but, like now, i have trouble resisting |
| 03:52.19 | TheSarge | Well its how I am boot me if I break a rule, don't help me if you don't want to. |
| 03:52.41 | TheSarge | stew: I did X -configure and ran the string to test it. |
| 03:52.52 | TheSarge | it broke and gave me the same error in the log |
| 03:52.54 | TheSarge | Fatal server error: |
| 03:52.54 | TheSarge | lockup |
| 03:53.07 | stew | TheSarge: this is new? |
| 03:53.10 | trelane | stew: thanks for the help, I'm cleaning house after doing an upgrade from etch to lenny :) |
| 03:53.22 | stew | trelane: debfoster is good for cleaning house |
| 03:53.29 | TheSarge | stew: what is? |
| 03:53.45 | stew | TheSarge: this error is differen than the error you came complaining about, right |
| 03:53.54 | phobos | TheSarge: what are you trying to do... generate a new xorg.conf? |
| 03:53.59 | stew | TheSarge: you started with "x works, but when I login my screen goes blank" |
| 03:54.33 | TheSarge | stew: I have had this before after restarting gdm a few times and the black click black click, only once in a while though |
| 03:55.11 | stew | ugh |
| 03:55.42 | TheSarge | stew: arent you the one that said I should file a bug report with Xorg about it? lmao |
| 03:55.49 | stew | TheSarge: did you?" |
| 03:56.05 | TheSarge | stew: sure |
| 03:56.09 | stew | TheSarge: what is the bug#? |
| 03:56.41 | TheSarge | stew: no clue didnt write it sown, anyways everything worked fine in ubuntu, so I doubt its a bug |
| 03:56.51 | TheSarge | s/sown/down |
| 03:57.03 | stew | TheSarge: which package did you file the bug against? |
| 03:57.12 | stew | TheSarge: did you file it upstream? or with debian? |
| 03:57.23 | stew | TheSarge: if it worked in ubuntu and not in debian how is that NOT a bug? |
| 03:57.36 | stew | TheSarge: if you doubt it is a bug, what did you say in your bug report? |
| 03:58.09 | TheSarge | stew: exactly what was happeneing and gave my log and config I filed it with xorg, thats all I know |
| 03:58.25 | stew | TheSarge: was there a response to the bug yet? |
| 03:58.32 | TheSarge | stew: nope |
| 03:58.35 | stew | TheSarge: can you please help me find the bug? |
| 03:58.46 | TheSarge | stew: I have no clue how sorry. |
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| 03:59.04 | TheSarge | I am pretty much left with no choice but to switch back to gaybuntu |
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| 03:59.35 | stew | TheSarge: please don't use the word 'gay' as a derrogatory adjective. its offensive to some people. |
| 03:59.42 | TheSarge | whatever |
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| 04:00.08 | TheSarge | Plus what led you to believe that was a derogative meaning of that adj? |
| 04:00.23 | TheSarge | Your personal bias maybe? |
| 04:01.13 | stew | TheSarge: please repond to my PMs |
| 04:01.41 | TheSarge | Sorry don't accept pm's |
| 04:01.52 | TheSarge | to many bots on this net |
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| 04:01.59 | KineticBug | -_- |
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| 04:02.01 | TheSarge | worse than dalnet |
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| 04:02.35 | KineticBug | stew++ |
| 04:02.58 | stew | TheSarge: feel free to PM me at any time |
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| 04:05.39 | Xenguy | yawns... |
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| 04:15.29 | alemani | hello |
| 04:16.08 | alemani | it's a complicate task to downgrade from sid to testing |
| 04:16.47 | alemani | I can't intall xserver-xorg ant the whole pletora on sid right now |
| 04:16.51 | alemani | *install |
| 04:17.09 | alemani | *and lol |
| 04:17.17 | phobos | alemani: depends on how you do it |
| 04:18.24 | alemani | phobos: what is the correct debian-way... I though changing the source.list from sid to testing will do the trick but I guess it's more complex than that |
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| 04:19.54 | phobos | alemani: I have no clue what the correct debian way is, but the way I did it was set the sources for whatever version I wanted, then I purged the kde base which took damn near everything, then just did a sudo aptitude install kde-core... |
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| 04:22.52 | Wyzard | alemani: sid is in the middle of a transition from xorg 7.3 to 7.4 -- that's why you can't install it |
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| 04:23.30 | Wyzard | alemani: These things usually resolve themselves within a few days |
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| 04:24.25 | alemani | phobos: yep it's what I mean but in my case I did purge all the xserver packages and kde too still I get the dependency problens |
| 04:24.57 | phobos | alemani: are you sure you zapped everything? |
| 04:25.01 | alemani | Wyzard: yes it's what I though that I dist-upgraded in a wrong time ;) |
| 04:25.23 | tictac | blah. i did a fresh install of lenny and xorg cant seem to get my screen size correct so i have basically an unusable system. |
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| 04:25.35 | alemani | phobos: pretty sure dpkg show nothing installed related to those packages |
| 04:25.38 | tictac | it doesnt even display the terminal correctly. |
| 04:25.39 | tictac | :-/ |
| 04:25.56 | Wyzard | tictac: the text-mode terminal? Or are you using a framebuffer? |
| 04:25.57 | tictac | anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 04:26.12 | tictac | text-mode terminal. |
| 04:26.14 | tictac | vtty0 |
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| 04:26.30 | tictac | its all garbled and my lcd doesnt display it correctly. |
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| 04:27.00 | Wyzard | tictac: VGA text mode is something the video card does on its own without needing to be configured by the OS |
| 04:27.07 | maxagaz | how to check the syntax of my /etc/sudoers file ? |
| 04:27.09 | Wyzard | tictac: If text mode is broken, that's probably not a Debian thing |
| 04:27.11 | phobos | alemani: I zapped everything on this list... http://pastebin.ca/1387732 try it |
| 04:27.17 | maxagaz | (check if it's valid) |
| 04:27.19 | phobos | might help in your case |
| 04:27.25 | tictac | it is a debian thing. this is a fresh install. |
| 04:27.32 | Wyzard | tictac: (but a framebuffer console is a different story) |
| 04:27.38 | tictac | i reinstalled it due to the fact that an upgrade to lenny the same thing. |
| 04:27.43 | alemani | phobos: am on it |
| 04:27.56 | tictac | there is no ssh enabled by default so i cant remote into it and change anything. |
| 04:28.36 | Wyzard | tictac: Either you're using a framebuffer console and not plain text mode, or you've somehow set the system to use some weird console font rather than the default one |
| 04:28.59 | tictac | well would it automatically choose to use a framebuffer console after an install? |
| 04:29.20 | Wyzard | tictac: I'm not sure; I haven't done a fresh install in a long time |
| 04:29.31 | tictac | i havent either until today. |
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| 04:29.50 | Wyzard | Try booting with "vga=0" on the kernel options line and see if it makes a difference |
| 04:30.04 | tictac | hmm alright. |
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| 04:30.31 | alemani | is there a way to tell apt-get to use a file to install/remove packages... ? |
| 04:30.46 | jtgiri | HI guys i am having issue with adding a user to www-data group , I added a user with useradd -G www-data -s /bin/bash -d /home/sandboxdev -m sandboxdev , but when I cat /etc/password it shows like this sandboxdev:x:1007:1007::/home/sandboxdev:/bin/bash , I have no idea why it's not showing in www-data group |
| 04:30.52 | alemani | a file with a list of packages |
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| 04:31.42 | alemani | aahh solved cat and pipe though |
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| 04:33.37 | tictac | Wyzard: no luck. |
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| 04:33.59 | Wyzard | tictac: You get text during POST, right? |
| 04:34.08 | Wyzard | tictac: At what point in the boot process does the screen become garbled? |
| 04:36.03 | Wyzard | tictac: Try "video=vga" together with "vga=0"... I'm not sure if it'll make a difference though |
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| 04:36.34 | alemani | phobos: no luck I still get the unmet dependencies |
| 04:36.40 | Wyzard | tictac: If the screen is going bad very shortly after starting the kernel, it's probably trying to switch to a framebuffer but using a bad video mode |
| 04:36.55 | phobos | alemani: what dep's is it missing? |
| 04:37.06 | tictac | yea i get post. |
| 04:37.41 | tictac | Wyzard: the screen becomes garbled after xdm/kdm/*dm decides to load X (which doesnt work) upon full bootup. |
| 04:37.44 | alemani | xserver-xorg-core -video-all -input-all |
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| 04:38.34 | phobos | alemani: is it saying its installed and conflicting or saying that it needs a different version? |
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| 04:39.04 | phobos | alemani: better yet, why not post the entire thing on pastebin.ca |
| 04:39.07 | Wyzard | tictac: oh, then it's failing when trying to switch into graphics mode; text mode is fine |
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| 04:39.39 | tictac | well its still garbled when i kill X or move to a tty <ctrl><alt><f-X> |
| 04:40.04 | Wyzard | The video card is probably in a confused state |
| 04:40.06 | alemani | phobos how to post I only have cli access is it possible or sento to a file then scp to my lap and the to pastebin will do |
| 04:40.09 | alemani | hang on |
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| 04:40.50 | Wyzard | but it's xorg trying to switch to graphics mode that's triggering it |
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| 04:41.15 | tictac | yea. or *dm loading X, but same thing |
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| 04:42.14 | Wyzard | tictac: Have you checked the xorg log for relevant error messages? |
| 04:42.28 | Wyzard | since you said xorg is failing to start |
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| 04:42.58 | tictac | i cant view the xorg logs.. |
| 04:43.27 | Wyzard | You can boot in single-user mode so X doesn't start, or boot a liveCD and mount the hard drive |
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| 04:45.57 | alemani | phobos: http://pastebin.ca/1387741 |
| 04:46.00 | alemani | thanks |
| 04:47.19 | maxagaz | Can someone tell me what is the correct syntax for this in /etc/suders ? => touchscreen touchscreen=NOPASSWD: "/sbin/reboot","/sbin/halt" |
| 04:47.40 | phobos | alemani: in your case, i would suggest getting a netinstall iso of lenny or squeeze. |
| 04:47.46 | phobos | its only like 50 or so megs |
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| 04:48.09 | alemani | phobos and recreate only / ? |
| 04:48.31 | trelane | does lenny have a realtime kernel? |
| 04:48.55 | phobos | alemani: yeah, just the root partition... its my suggestion. either that or wait about 10 days for the latest xorg to come out of sid to the testing repo |
| 04:48.57 | trelane | something that can deal with a 1PPS adequately? |
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| 04:49.54 | alemani | but I have always been on sid and I want to stay there... thoug I should wait |
| 04:50.09 | alemani | phobos: thanks for ya help! |
| 04:50.40 | phobos | alemani: sorry I couldn't solve your problem, good luck to ya |
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| 04:54.16 | jetscreamer | waves at ppl from x and sid |
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| 05:02.15 | synaptic1 | I've searched in /proc/asound |
| 05:02.22 | synaptic1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.27 | synaptic1 | Thank you! |
| 05:02.46 | cahoot | fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* |
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| 05:05.27 | synaptic1 | FANTASTIC!!! |
| 05:05.29 | nik_ | is there a program like gentoo's 'eix' for debian/apt? |
| 05:05.29 | synaptic1 | Thank you Caroot |
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| 05:06.27 | cahoot | nik_: I'd guess aptitude can do |
| 05:06.52 | nik_ | cahoot: 'aptitude search' is very slow, though |
| 05:07.24 | cahoot | it is? |
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| 05:07.37 | nik_ | i guess apt-cache search is a little better, but the output format isn't as nice |
| 05:08.32 | nik_ | cahoot: yes.. eix seems instant compared to aptitude search |
| 05:08.48 | cahoot | the upside is you don't have to compile what ypu find |
| 05:09.00 | nik_ | lol, true |
| 05:09.19 | stew | nik_: the aptitude author has been recently making speed improvements in aptitude, hopefully it will get better |
| 05:09.53 | stew | nik_: for basic search apt-cache is definately faster, but aptitude does searching that is hard to do otherwise |
| 05:09.56 | nik_ | it still seems like there would be some program that just looks in a database that you update now and then, like eix |
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| 05:10.23 | stew | nik_: there is also the grep-dctrl suite of tools, but they are a little more 'raw' |
| 05:10.24 | nik_ | stew: oh, i see |
| 05:10.47 | stew | nik_: that IS what aptitude/apt-cache/etc do, but the database are very large text files |
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| 05:11.26 | nik_ | oh i see, i forgot that debian's database probably is much larger than gentoo's |
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| 05:11.58 | stew | nik_: i have no idea how big gentoo's is. the last debian release had 23k packages |
| 05:12.55 | cahoot | stew: eix would probably tell ;) |
| 05:13.42 | trelane | why does debian have a kernel for literally everything besides linux realtime |
| 05:14.29 | stew | trelane: excellent question, that has no good answer. i'm sure its been addressed 100,000 times on lists.debian.org/debian-kernel probably without a very satisfactory answer |
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| 05:14.55 | trelane | stew: and to think I defended you earlier! :-p |
| 05:15.23 | stew | trelane: ok, let me get you a better answer |
| 05:15.37 | stew | trelane: becuase if you need one you should be able to figure out how to make your own |
| 05:15.40 | stew | :) |
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| 05:17.23 | parsonsd | what's the Debian bugfix policy? I run lenny and i am wondering if it is worth the trouble to go hunt down a few packages that i found bugs in. |
| 05:18.26 | stew | parsonsd: it depends on how serious the bug is. they are often left unfixed unless they are considered GRAVE, becuase introducing fixes to one bug can introduce another, and we have to draw the line somewhere |
| 05:18.49 | stew | parsonsd: though its still useful to document the bugs we know about, and ceratinly useful to get htem fixed for the next release if they aren't appropriate to fix in this release |
| 05:19.11 | trelane | stew: you're correct, but that doesn't mean I'm not snarky |
| 05:19.29 | stew | trelane: are you going to try to out snark me? |
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| 05:20.00 | stew | trelane: seriously though, its a good question |
| 05:20.03 | trelane | stew: once I'm off the phone |
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| 05:22.10 | parsonsd | stew: apparently not too serious. the bug in bind has been documented for a while (`/etc/init.d/bind stop` doesn't work; and i don't really know if the icecast build that fixes an issue is even in lenny).. thanks tho. |
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| 05:27.03 | ta1 | another Lenny Installation question, what about a failure trying to run: dpkg --forece-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6**.deb |
| 05:27.16 | ta1 | I am installing debian from a cd image |
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| 05:28.45 | liable | what error? why on earth are you doing that? |
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| 05:32.36 | empiric1 | hi |
| 05:32.49 | jetscreamer | **? |
| 05:32.49 | empiric1 | any one works on HP data protector on debian |
| 05:33.07 | jetscreamer | and it's force ... why don't you try apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:33.15 | punchagan | hi. I upgraded from lenny to squeeze recently and I don't get unlock option for admin tasks. Is gksu broken? can someone help? |
| 05:33.15 | jetscreamer | or aptitude |
| 05:34.49 | jetscreamer | what's the alternatives option for su vs sudo? |
| 05:34.52 | jetscreamer | try that |
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| 05:35.05 | jetscreamer | just guessing wildly though |
| 05:37.32 | parsonsd | is there an equivalent in aptitude to apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 05:37.37 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 05:37.45 | jetscreamer | just substitute the word aptitude |
| 05:38.04 | jetscreamer | i would suggest not doing it to anything but stable atm |
| 05:39.03 | parsonsd | hrm - i missed it in the man page. thanks. (and i'm making sure that my old lenny-as-testing is current with lenny-as-stable) |
| 05:39.31 | jetscreamer | mostly, all you need to do is substitute the word aptitude ... can't swear it works for everything though |
| 05:41.15 | streuner_ | parsonsd: look at full-upgrade |
| 05:41.34 | kavakava | jetscreamer: Why wouldn't you suggest that? I've done it the last two years. Anything I should be worried about? :-p |
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| 05:42.17 | streuner_ | dpkg, listvals dist-upgrade |
| 05:42.19 | trelane | stew: I can't find a reason why an RT kernel wasn't built, and I'm building one now |
| 05:42.19 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'dist-upgrade' by value (15 of 31): apt-get dist-upgrade ;; distup ;; e2fsprogs loop ;; fixgcc ;; force loopbreak ;; full-upgrade ;; nvidia upgrade ;; sarge->etch ;; security ;; sid horror story ;; ssh-vulnkey ;; ssl update ;; upvsdistup ;; using apt ;; why not dist upgrade. |
| 05:42.36 | ta1 | liable: then what should I do? |
| 05:42.47 | jetscreamer | kavakava: yeah kde gnome and xorg are borked |
| 05:43.05 | jetscreamer | can't swear how far into testing it is, but sid is totally bonkered |
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| 05:43.36 | simonrvn | i have 10 packages on hold |
| 05:43.55 | streuner_ | puts consolekit on hold :-) |
| 05:43.57 | jetscreamer | i have about 75 or so at aguess |
| 05:43.58 | simonrvn | some for probably at least 2 weeks or more |
| 05:44.06 | streuner_ | simonrvn: thanks for the reminder :-) |
| 05:44.19 | kavakava | jetscreamer: Squeeze with openbox and xfce-panel here. Stable as hell. :-) |
| 05:44.21 | simonrvn | np =) |
| 05:44.45 | liable | ta1: why are you trying to install libc6 like that? |
| 05:44.58 | jetscreamer | kavakava: icewm here, no problems.. ppl have been complaining about xorg though, so i haven't even tried an upgrade |
| 05:45.37 | kavakava | jetscreamer: Heh. Only my laptop, so if thing screws up I don't mind. :-) |
| 05:45.46 | jetscreamer | checks it out keeping his finger on the abort |
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| 05:46.57 | simonrvn | cheated and is tracking exp. xorg ... |
| 05:47.26 | jetscreamer | ah lots more new kde today |
| 05:48.33 | simonrvn | a bunch. i bet kaboom works now. haven't tried yet. |
| 05:48.33 | liable | aptitude has been handily wanting to uninstall kwin and freinds for me lately |
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| 05:48.33 | jetscreamer | n_ Opt xfce xfconf <none> 4.6.0-3 utilities for managing settings in Xfce |
| 05:48.33 | simonrvn | yup, it's not a noop anymore |
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| 05:49.59 | jetscreamer | omg it would be a large upgrade |
| 05:50.16 | ta1 | liable: in fact I am initially install debian from a cd I downloaded, this error pops up when in the initial state of the installation, says something corrupts with libc, can you give a guess what's happening ? :) |
| 05:50.39 | jetscreamer | run md5 on .iso or verify cd in installer |
| 05:50.47 | liable | ta1: during install, if you see lines about libc6 relover or similar, you can safely ignore it |
| 05:51.56 | jetscreamer | hmmm lots of xorg vid modules being removed, but i don't see any being installed? |
| 05:52.30 | simonrvn | xfce 4.6 is really neat. a lot of good changes in it. |
| 05:52.39 | jetscreamer | abort, abort!! |
| 05:53.00 | jetscreamer | i'll wait some more |
| 05:53.08 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: that's partly why i'm using the exp. stuff. i was already. i removed one i wasn't using anyway. |
| 05:53.15 | jetscreamer | course i 'could' make an image |
| 05:53.38 | jetscreamer | coughs more |
| 05:53.43 | simonrvn | doesn't have the luxury of space to do that |
| 05:53.44 | jetscreamer | in rl |
| 05:53.57 | jetscreamer | my debian isn't all that big |
| 05:54.24 | jetscreamer | ah well... 20g now.. it was a lot smaller before |
| 05:54.44 | simonrvn | i have too much crap installed |
| 05:54.46 | simonrvn | (Reading database ... 298453 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 05:54.48 | ta1 | liable: but I got aborting to continue with debian-installer, I don't no ways to conitnue |
| 05:54.48 | jetscreamer | some of that is movies though |
| 05:55.05 | liable | ta1: what is the actual error? |
| 05:55.09 | jetscreamer | i have gnome and kde installed and don't use them |
| 05:55.17 | jetscreamer | which is kinda silly |
| 05:55.47 | jetscreamer | thinks it might be beginning strep throat... |
| 05:55.55 | jetscreamer | breathes on #debian |
| 05:56.05 | simonrvn | i use 3 kde apps, and i do use gnome, though not a full session. just obox, panel, and rox |
| 05:56.22 | simonrvn | rox rox ;p |
| 05:56.25 | jetscreamer | i use kmix and gedit in icewm mostly |
| 05:56.36 | liable | sprays disinfectant on jetscreamer |
| 05:56.51 | jetscreamer | and mahjhongg |
| 05:57.08 | jetscreamer | other than that, not much |
| 05:57.09 | liable | i gave up and just use kde. i cant be arsed configuring WM's |
| 05:57.32 | jetscreamer | i've had my ~/.icewm for quite a while now |
| 05:57.39 | jetscreamer | doesn't change much |
| 05:58.03 | parsonsd | bleh. fvwm ... but i have never finished configuring it. i fall asleep before i get to making it the way i want it |
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| 05:58.05 | simonrvn | i spent about 6-12 hours making a nice little set up for my obox menu. i just add to it now. |
| 05:58.32 | simonrvn | parsonsd: yeh, me too. i got tired of trying to make out what does what. |
| 05:58.38 | jetscreamer | it's been through quite a lot of partitionings.. yeah me too i have a bunch of toolbar buttons and just edit in a new one |
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| 05:59.29 | jetscreamer | and my .bashrc is heavily modified |
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| 05:59.45 | parsonsd | i was pretty happy with e, but then it dissapeared from lenny. :( |
| 05:59.50 | simonrvn | i found a script on the web (and tweaked a bit) that toggle compositing via xcompmgr |
| 05:59.53 | ta1 | liable: I guess it is something with libc6_2.7 , I can't be more specific, it happens at the early stage of the installation. After partition is done and installation really begins ... |
| 05:59.58 | simonrvn | toggles* |
| 06:00.12 | jetscreamer | hasn't changed stuff in quite a while.. i feel kinda.. static now that i've mentioned it :) |
| 06:00.20 | simonrvn | parsonsd: hold on, i'll get you some deb lines for e17 |
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| 06:01.05 | simonrvn | parsonsd: |
| 06:01.06 | simonrvn | # E17; may conflict with exp's stuff |
| 06:01.06 | simonrvn | deb http://debian.alphagemini.org/ unstable main |
| 06:01.07 | parsonsd | simonrvn - ooh neat! i was using the old e 16 while lenny was in testing . i didn't ever find its replacement |
| 06:01.11 | jetscreamer | goes off to hack his lungs up..afk |
| 06:02.34 | liable | ta1: hard to tell whats up without the actual error |
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| 06:03.11 | parsonsd | simonrvn - do you know where to find their key? |
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| 06:05.02 | simonrvn | their site has it. debian.alphagemini.org |
| 06:05.02 | ta1 | liable: ok , I guess I need a new cd for installation, thanks |
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| 06:05.45 | parsonsd | if i could get bash's reverse history search to work like zsh's history-beginning-search-backward and history-beginning-search-forward |
| 06:05.48 | batcoder-7 | how can i mount a |
| 06:05.51 | batcoder-7 | drive |
| 06:05.55 | batcoder-7 | it only lets my root do it |
| 06:06.02 | parsonsd | i'd be a lot happier with bash |
| 06:06.12 | batcoder-7 | how can i give my other regular user the power to be abel to mount a partition? |
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| 06:06.45 | simonrvn | man mount; /user |
| 06:07.12 | parsonsd | batcoder-7 , well, sudo would do it, but you can give permissions within the mount vfstab |
| 06:07.39 | batcoder-7 | but then only root can see the files |
| 06:07.49 | batcoder-7 | i was sudo'ing to root it but then only rot could see the files |
| 06:07.58 | cahoot | batcoder-7: from man mount: Normally, only the superuser can mount file systems. However, when fstab contains the user option on a line, anybody can mount the corresponding system. |
| 06:08.02 | batcoder-7 | if i can have all users see the files i have no problem using sudo |
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| 06:08.28 | batcoder-7 | anyway to sudo mount it but give all users the power to see it ? |
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| 06:09.18 | danborne-lappy | Is debian no longer offering floppy install for lenny? |
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| 06:11.01 | streuner | what does install-guide say about? |
| 06:11.14 | streuner | !ig |
| 06:11.14 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r7) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual. <installer firmware> |
| 06:11.21 | parsonsd | batcoder-7 - what you really want to do is to do as cahoot suggested, edit the /etc/fstab to include 'user' in the line |
| 06:11.55 | batcoder-7 | parsonsd, so there is no way to be able to do a sudo and let all users access it like that ? |
| 06:12.04 | batcoder-7 | i would have to add the user to the fstab? |
| 06:12.17 | streuner | danborne-lappy: why? |
| 06:12.36 | parsonsd | batcoder-7 - no, you add the string 'user' to the file to allow all 'user's to have access |
| 06:12.45 | batcoder-7 | ok |
| 06:12.46 | cahoot | batcoder-7: take your time and study man mount |
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| 06:13.27 | parsonsd | ops, "users" not "user |
| 06:13.28 | parsonsd | " |
| 06:13.43 | batcoder-7 | how do i add it i am looking at my fstab right now |
| 06:13.47 | parsonsd | rats, right first time, wrong second |
| 06:13.53 | batcoder-7 | under options right? |
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| 06:14.14 | batcoder-7 | wait the partition is not even in my fstav |
| 06:14.15 | batcoder-7 | b |
| 06:14.21 | danborne-lappy | streuner: I only have a floppy drive |
| 06:14.35 | batcoder-7 | do i need to add it to my fstab? |
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| 06:16.06 | streuner | danborne-lappy: what kind of machine is that? |
| 06:16.30 | parsonsd | batcoder-7 : take a look at `man -s 5 fstab` . you will probably need to add the reference to your drive into the file, be sure to read the manual about it, tho. |
| 06:16.45 | batcoder-7 | doing so now parsonsd |
| 06:16.52 | parsonsd | k. kewl |
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| 06:17.34 | streuner | danborne-lappy: did you look into ig (/msg dpkg ig) yet? |
| 06:17.39 | batcoder-7 | what is a mount point for a windows drive? |
| 06:18.08 | streuner | /mnt/crap? |
| 06:20.12 | batcoder-7 | when i change a fstab do i have to restart or no? |
| 06:21.24 | streuner | danborne-lappy: there arent any lenny boot-floppies, IIRC, just use these http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ |
| 06:21.49 | streuner | danborne-lappy: and upgrade to lenny then |
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| 06:22.14 | danborne-lappy | that is what I was doing thanks |
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| 06:23.33 | batcoder-7 | do i have to restart for that or what? |
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| 06:23.45 | cahoot | no |
| 06:24.02 | batcoder-7 | do i have to reload or just mount and it will read the fstab? |
| 06:24.11 | cahoot | no need reboot |
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| 06:25.37 | batcoder-7 | ok now i am able to mount but the dir is empty and still has an x on it |
| 06:25.38 | batcoder-7 | hmmm |
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| 06:25.43 | parsonsd | streuner : gee, got much Vitriol? |
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| 06:27.29 | parsonsd | hope his mount dir wasn't terribly important. suck to have fstab point your directory of mp3 to /usr/bin ... |
| 06:29.05 | parsonsd | ha! or worse yet to /bin cutting off access to mount and umount |
| 06:29.33 | simonrvn | wow, no kidding. ick. |
| 06:30.10 | rhodescus | that's a five minute fix |
| 06:30.41 | cahoot | even for one having problems figuring out the basics of mount? |
| 06:30.54 | parsonsd | hrm.. does single user mode load up fstab? |
| 06:30.56 | rhodescus | well, that's a two-hour fix |
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| 06:31.03 | rhodescus | parsonsd: yes |
| 06:31.05 | parsonsd | yeah, for low-milage types like that one... |
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| 06:31.27 | parsonsd | well, there goes init 1... :( |
| 06:32.05 | rhodescus | just boot debian install cdrom, execute a shell, mount root on /target, cd /target/etc, vi fstab |
| 06:32.58 | simonrvn | unless you boot via -b, but grub doesn't seem to support that (?; or i did it wrong last time i tried). |
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| 06:33.08 | rhodescus | of course, if you can't handle mount, that's hard. |
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| 06:34.07 | simonrvn | probably have to do something like "grub and kernel options -- -b" *shrug* |
| 06:34.20 | basanta | is clamav only good for scanning virus not killing them? |
| 06:34.32 | parsonsd | ahh .like the traditional "i forgot root" fix |
| 06:34.41 | jetscreamer | root's password |
| 06:34.48 | rhodescus | yeah |
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| 06:35.26 | rhodescus | basanta: I believe so |
| 06:35.53 | jetscreamer | /join #clamav |
| 06:36.36 | rhodescus | basanta: but it can delete infected files. |
| 06:37.04 | simonrvn | iirc it can quarantine or delete them. |
| 06:37.16 | rhodescus | but not remove them |
| 06:37.35 | rhodescus | e.g., repair the infected file. |
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| 06:38.02 | basanta | rhodescus, automatically? |
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| 06:38.20 | rhodescus | basanta: clamscan --remove |
| 06:38.21 | ryanCH | a wallpaper i created in a couple of minutes .. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Linux+Clouds?content=102503 |
| 06:38.24 | ryanCH | :) |
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| 06:39.08 | basanta | rhodescus, so there is no option in clamscan to remove only virus and not the file |
| 06:39.19 | rhodescus | basanta: that is correct |
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| 06:40.02 | rhodescus | basanta: if you're really desperate, I think AVG has a linux scanner |
| 06:40.13 | jetscreamer | nuke it from orbit |
| 06:40.20 | jetscreamer | baremetal the box |
| 06:40.25 | rhodescus | basanta: but nod32 is a better choice |
| 06:40.38 | rhodescus | basanta: and jetscreamer has a good idea |
| 06:41.13 | jetscreamer | doesn't say ... 'and restore from backup.. ;you know, that backup you make every hour... or day...' |
| 06:41.47 | rhodescus | basanta: oh, and make a backup :) |
| 06:41.56 | parsonsd | backup? |
| 06:41.59 | jetscreamer | chews another coughdrop |
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| 06:42.00 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 06:42.13 | jetscreamer | wtf is backup! |
| 06:42.25 | rhodescus | beep beep beep beep |
| 06:42.47 | Supaplex | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.00 | parsonsd | says "that's good!" |
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| 06:47.06 | Sashi | quick question |
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| 06:47.23 | Sashi | find -depth n > the higher n is the more depth? |
| 06:47.37 | rhodescus | Sashi: yes |
| 06:48.16 | rhodescus | Sashi: er, maxdepth |
| 06:48.26 | Sashi | ? |
| 06:48.27 | Sashi | k |
| 06:48.33 | rhodescus | Sashi: depth actually means 'find the deepest files first' |
| 06:48.42 | Sashi | ah |
| 06:48.46 | Sashi | i see |
| 06:48.46 | Sashi | k |
| 06:48.57 | simonrvn | !enter |
| 06:48.58 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 06:49.13 | Sashi | :P |
| 06:49.48 | rhodescus | ah |
| 06:49.49 | rhodescus | I see |
| 06:49.49 | rhodescus | k |
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| 06:49.58 | rhodescus | heh, no boot |
| 06:50.16 | Supaplex | welcome to my five minute ignore, rhodescus. |
| 06:50.18 | Sashi | lol |
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| 06:52.32 | cahoot | Sashi: you should know 'lol' is frowned upon too here |
| 06:52.44 | Sashi | :( |
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| 06:53.46 | mns | Anyone know how to tell a Makefile to use the filename given on the command line as the source file to work with ? |
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| 06:54.40 | parsonsd | key? |
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| 06:54.59 | parsonsd | oops. |
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| 06:55.32 | Supaplex | mns: yes |
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| 06:56.08 | mns | Supaplex: How ? :) |
| 06:56.29 | Supaplex | make --help | grep -i file :) |
| 06:56.46 | basantashrestha | rhodescus, ping |
| 06:56.56 | rhodescus | basantashrestha: yes? |
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| 06:57.40 | basantashrestha | rhodescus, i got disconnected were you saying anything? |
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| 06:58.02 | batcoder-7 | well that was fun |
| 06:58.11 | rhodescus | basantashrestha: yes, make a backup before you start deleting things |
| 06:58.13 | batcoder-7 | i almost borked my system in the most stuidest way |
| 06:58.32 | batcoder-7 | i set a umask that like blocked everyone from doing anything but reading |
| 06:58.46 | mns | Supaplex: no that isn't going to work. I want to take the given filename and use it in "SRC = <file_name_given_on_command_line>" and then all the rest of the rules work on $(SRC) |
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| 06:59.17 | parsonsd | batcoder-7 : oops |
| 06:59.33 | mns | make --help | grep -i file is for something different. |
| 06:59.38 | Supaplex | mns: so make -f myothermakefile wasn't what you wanted? |
| 06:59.42 | basantashrestha | rhodescus, oh ok. I was saying that I am a samba PDC and I want to remove possible windows virusus from the server |
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| 06:59.57 | mns | Supaplex: no. |
| 07:00.06 | rhodescus | basantashrestha: I didn't get that |
| 07:00.09 | batcoder-7 | parsonsd, then the recovery cd i had had some werid terminal that was not even working with nano or vim noting but then i was like mcedit and boom it worked very buggy but it worked |
| 07:00.22 | rhodescus | basantashrestha: you are probably interested in software like 'NOD32' |
| 07:00.37 | rhodescus | basantashrestha: but you have to go somewhere else and pay for it. |
| 07:00.49 | mns | Supaplex: I want to substitute a source file I give on the command line as the value for a variable inside the makefile. |
| 07:01.13 | basantashrestha | rhodescus, oh |
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| 07:01.24 | Supaplex | ahh |
| 07:01.27 | ilaiho | how the unattended-upgrades deals with kernel upgrades? |
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| 07:02.07 | ilaiho | I have understood that some kernel upgrades require an instant reboot |
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| 07:03.23 | mns | ilaiho: you'll have to do that reboot manually. the upgrade/update will not take care of it for you. at least to the best of my knowledge. |
| 07:03.23 | H2S04 | ilaiho, any kernel upgrade that is a new version is going to require a reboot. |
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| 07:03.41 | H2S04 | ilaiho, you could always just hold the package with apt if you're worried about it too. :P |
| 07:03.48 | rhodescus | mns: you may be interestedin makes 'match anything pattern rules' |
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| 07:04.32 | rhodescus | mns: but I would make an environment variable and then call a predefined make target to act on the enviroment variable |
| 07:04.39 | ilaiho | H2S04: but delaying reboot does not screw anything up? |
| 07:04.40 | rhodescus | mns: but it sounds like a lot of bother. |
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| 07:06.10 | mns | rhodescus: yeah that's far more work then I need/want to do. |
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| 07:10.09 | rhodescus | mns: look at the pattern matching rules in the gnu make manual. you can do some amazing stuff. |
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| 07:10.47 | baal | linux just froze ! |
| 07:10.50 | baal | it's frozen |
| 07:10.55 | mns | rhodescus: yeah was just going through that. thanks. |
| 07:10.59 | baal | ctrl-alt-F2 is not working |
| 07:11.27 | baal | linux is sucking. |
| 07:12.30 | mns | baal: what were you using when Linux "froze" ? |
| 07:12.30 | baal | i guess i can reboot. |
| 07:12.36 | baal | firefox. |
| 07:12.41 | mne | Hi. I have a thinkpad x61 which has an internal USB bluetooth adapter. Unfortunately, it does not show up in 'lsusb' anymore. I also verified that the physical killswitch is on so that bluetooth and wlan is physically enabled. I enabled bluetooth by echoing "enabled" to /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth as well. It's state is now enabled, but lsusb still doesn't show the bluetooth adapter. It used to work just fine. I'm not sure what's wrong, a |
| 07:12.41 | mne | ny hints ? |
| 07:12.53 | baal | err iceweasel |
| 07:13.08 | mns | baal: you tried ctrl-alt-f1 ? |
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| 07:13.35 | baal | i just pulled the plug |
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| 07:13.48 | rhodescus | mns: use %.o: %c\r\t$(CC) -c -o $@ $< |
| 07:13.51 | baal | but yea, of course i would try all the F keys |
| 07:13.54 | baal | linux sucks. |
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| 07:14.20 | rhodescus | mns: %.c |
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| 07:14.44 | rhodescus | mns: then you can make any .o file from any appropriately named .c file by call make x.c |
| 07:14.52 | rhodescus | mns: that was interesting |
| 07:15.13 | mns | rhodescus: damn yeah ... that is .. |
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| 07:15.56 | mns | rhodescus: thanks. that seems to do what I need. |
| 07:16.06 | rhodescus | mns: awesome, that was fun, thank you |
| 07:16.36 | mns | :) |
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| 07:16.55 | rhodescus | mns: didn't know I had so many .c files on my desktop though. |
| 07:17.12 | mns | haha |
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| 07:17.38 | mns | now if you keep playing with the makefile, you'll have the correspondig .o files as well .. :) |
| 07:17.57 | rhodescus | mns: heh, no, I'll stop. I think I'm missing some headers there. |
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| 07:22.34 | rhodescus | mns: you'll probably want to use $? instead of $< |
| 07:23.05 | rhodescus | mns: if you have any dependencies |
| 07:24.04 | rhodescus | mns: or $^ |
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| 07:37.48 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:37.49 | dpkg | < primoturbo> how do I delete linux? < primoturbo> how do I delete debain and get something else < AciD> primoturbo > rm-rf / < primoturbo> Should I try OpenBSD? < asg> primoturbo: hahah |
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| 07:41.27 | whyamisonuts | morning, what is the more reasonable mount option~ for a desktopsystem with ext4: noatime or relatime? |
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| 07:49.06 | _Pete_ | how should my apt sources.list be when using unstable? |
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| 07:50.26 | streuner | _Pete_: if you have to ask, just dont use sid then |
| 07:50.36 | streuner | _Pete_: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 07:50.43 | dondelelcaro | _Pete_: same as any other time, with unstable instead of testing or stable... but see what streuner said |
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| 07:59.25 | simplechat | hey |
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| 07:59.34 | simplechat | i'm trying to run selinux on my debian vps |
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| 07:59.51 | simplechat | the issue is that it just fails at the line "/usr/sbin/selinux-activate: line 12: update-grub: command not found |
| 07:59.52 | simplechat | " |
| 08:00.32 | simonrvn | looking for grub's update-grub command |
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| 08:01.32 | simplechat | yeah |
| 08:01.38 | simplechat | google isn't being that nice |
| 08:01.47 | simplechat | simonrvn, what would i do to show it that? |
| 08:01.50 | simplechat | this is running on xen, btw |
| 08:02.11 | simonrvn | what? |
| 08:02.18 | simplechat | its a xen vps |
| 08:02.24 | simplechat | if that makes any difference |
| 08:02.24 | simonrvn | show what? |
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| 08:02.46 | simplechat | what would i do to allow selinux to install |
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| 08:02.54 | simplechat | ie. what package do i need to install to have update-grub |
| 08:02.55 | simplechat | or what? |
| 08:03.05 | simonrvn | i just said it... |
| 08:03.14 | simplechat | just apt-get install update-grub? |
| 08:03.16 | simonrvn | 04:00 < simonrvn> looking for grub's update-grub command |
| 08:03.21 | simplechat | yeah |
| 08:03.26 | simplechat | but how do i actually get that command? |
| 08:03.45 | liable | do you have grub installed? |
| 08:03.53 | simonrvn | grub, to put it more explicitly... |
| 08:04.03 | simplechat | liable, yeah |
| 08:04.10 | simonrvn | *facepalm* |
| 08:04.26 | simplechat | simonrvn, yeah, i do have grub |
| 08:04.29 | simplechat | it is booting through grub |
| 08:04.36 | simplechat | just for some wierd reason it doesn't have this specific command |
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| 08:04.55 | jintxo | how about typing "which update-grub"? hasn't that script changed locations somehwat recently (to /usr/sbin/)? |
| 08:04.58 | valdyn | simplechat: /usr/sbin/update-grub |
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| 08:05.43 | simplechat | valdyn, that was what it was looking for |
| 08:05.50 | simplechat | i installed the package grub |
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| 08:23.43 | wasynyt_eee | how can i reconfigure my xorg to use nvidia driver, i installed the driver with module assistant, but it is not enabled |
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| 08:25.48 | l403 | is there any moore innfo oI can get on my destroyed partition table other than /proc/partitions? |
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| 08:26.01 | l403 | still have not rebooted |
| 08:26.34 | worr | wasynyt_eee: run nvidia-sconfig if you have it |
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| 08:26.38 | l403 | I'm not sure about the primary, extended structure |
| 08:26.40 | worr | *nvidia-xconfig |
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| 08:27.18 | liable | l403: see what gpart can do |
| 08:27.41 | l403 | ok |
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| 08:28.05 | bolt | l403: how did you destroy the partition table? |
| 08:28.12 | l403 | btw, are primaries allowed after the extended? |
| 08:28.25 | l403 | bolt, hda!=sda |
| 08:28.57 | andy_js | how do I generate a "Releases" file for my apt repo? |
| 08:28.58 | bolt | l403: should be. extended is just a primary partition with room for more partitions |
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| 08:29.22 | l403 | thnx |
| 08:29.43 | bolt | l403: not that i've ever tried, but i see no reason why it shouldn't be possible... |
| 08:30.04 | wasynyt_eee | looks at it |
| 08:30.33 | wasynyt_eee | i dont have that, so i dont have nvidia installed? |
| 08:30.56 | [kapal] | anyone using ext4? |
| 08:31.16 | bolt | !tell [kapal] about polls |
| 08:31.40 | l403 | I know hda2 was extended but as its indicated size is 1 block it seems it could be trough the rest of the HD, but probably isnt |
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| 08:31.57 | l403 | i'll try what gpart does |
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| 08:32.56 | rhineheart_m | suggestion please of a wgui printer manager for debian... |
| 08:33.15 | liable | cups has a web interface |
| 08:34.14 | rhineheart_m | liable, I tried to configure it.. but I just can't get in to its admin page.. only the homepage |
| 08:34.46 | bolt | l403: if all is lost, you try Active@ partition recovery. used it at work. very good. |
| 08:35.15 | liable | the what? |
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| 08:36.05 | zepard | hi all |
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| 08:36.43 | bolt | l403: it's very proprietary and costs money though. but if you run out of options, it might help. |
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| 08:37.58 | l403 | well, I do have the kernels partitions output so I know the sizes and will have to guess whats in extended and what not buut maybe it can be calculated |
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| 08:39.19 | rhineheart_m | any other printer manager aside from cups? |
| 08:39.20 | bolt | l403: depends on how you did the partitioning. the automatic tools are likely to make one primary, then fill the rest of the disk with a huge extended partition and put all others in that |
| 08:39.45 | l403 | I did it manually |
| 08:40.09 | l403 | I think the last one or two may be primary again |
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| 08:42.03 | l403 | ok, I got four primaries detected, the first one is obviusly guessed right |
| 08:42.23 | wasynyt_eee | why dpkg-reonfigure xserver-xorg doesnt show interactive wizard |
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| 08:43.48 | maxagaz | is there an application to manage ethernet digital check machine (to check at what time people arrive and leave work) |
| 08:44.01 | l403 | I need a way to plot it down so I can piece it together. maybe a piece of paper will do :D |
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| 08:44.40 | l403 | maxagaz, network login logs? |
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| 08:46.05 | maxagaz | l403, the machine is at the entrance of the company, people put their finger on it to check in and out |
| 08:46.46 | icenine | it's biometric? |
| 08:46.47 | l403 | ah |
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| 08:52.02 | wasynyt_eee | ok got my nvidia driver to work, thanks for your help |
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| 08:56.15 | negge | How do I autostart a script or application on system startup without starting it as root through /etc/rc.local ? |
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| 08:57.38 | valdyn | negge: why would you do it thru /etc/rc.local? which app? |
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| 08:58.40 | valdyn | negge: if its a real user that needs this autostarted, then it also should be done in a way maintained by that user, not rc.local |
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| 09:01.28 | negge | valdyn: I want to autostart RSSDler and the Deluge daemon at startup, but I want to start them as my own user, not root, but I have no idea how to do that. All I know is if you put stuff into /etc/rc.local they start as root, but that's not what I want. |
| 09:01.52 | negge | valdyn: this is on Lenny without a DE |
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| 09:05.25 | valdyn | negge: run crontab -e as that user,put a line like @start runsomeprogram |
| 09:05.31 | valdyn | negge: run crontab -e as that user,put a line like @reboot runsomeprogram |
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| 09:05.38 | valdyn | negge: ignore that first line |
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| 09:06.58 | negge | valdyn: so f I put "@start /path/to/rssdler" (without the quotation marks) to the crontab it will run at startup? |
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| 09:07.06 | valdyn | negge: @reboot |
| 09:07.15 | valdyn | negge: but yes |
| 09:07.45 | negge | valdyn: why @reboot? |
| 09:07.45 | klaz168 | hi, im trying to compile gcc, but I keep on getting this error; http://pastebin.com/m41342ef4 |
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| 09:08.04 | superlinux | hi |
| 09:08.48 | negge | valdyn: I found a site explaining it, I'll try that method |
| 09:08.54 | valdyn | negge: because thats how it is ) |
| 09:09.04 | valdyn | negge: you can look at the manpage, but its really quite simple |
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| 09:09.44 | superlinux | if i ran ' wget -c ' (download with continuation on a file), if ran it multiple of times on that same file, is that harmful? a waste of time? does it speed up things? |
| 09:10.13 | valdyn | superlinux: its nonsense |
| 09:10.34 | ronr | hi guys, I'm making a checklist for server (webserver with mysql / postgresql) maintenance, currently got check dsa, run apt update, check last log, check free diskspace, check rights running sites, check backups, run portscan to check firewall, anyone knows any essentials I'm missing here? |
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| 09:11.15 | osfd | Hi, is there a bluetooth /dev/ ? |
| 09:12.11 | negge | valdyn: thanks for your help, I hope it works (can't try it now as I don't want to reboot my server) |
| 09:12.40 | superlinux | valdyn, i tried it |
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| 09:14.48 | superlinux | but still dont know if the file will be ok |
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| 09:23.44 | nameless` | hi |
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| 09:31.42 | ghang | where can i download skype for debian lenny amd64 ? |
| 09:32.51 | l403 | on the internets? |
| 09:33.17 | bolt | debian.org would be a good starting point |
| 09:33.33 | bolt | i heard they have some h0t w4r3z linkz. you can get it for free from there |
| 09:33.34 | klaz168 | ghang, skype.com they have deb packages |
| 09:34.31 | bolt | er. excuse my buddy's keyboard fart |
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| 09:35.20 | ghang | klaz168, i am in china , and i cannot open www.skype.com main page , it will jump to tom.skype , can you kindly send me the download page please ? |
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| 09:35.34 | bolt | http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free |
| 09:35.41 | bolt | stuff in sources.list |
| 09:36.00 | bolt | (put "deb" in front of it |
| 09:36.47 | bolt | also, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu |
| 09:37.06 | bolt | oh, wait. this one is 64bit. http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64 |
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| 09:37.54 | Kurt_Godel | hi guys |
| 09:38.01 | klaz168 | compiling gcc is taking forever !@#$! |
| 09:38.13 | bolt | you're compiling the compiler? |
| 09:38.25 | klaz168 | yeshuh!! |
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| 09:39.07 | bolt | exactly |
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| 09:40.58 | Kurt_Godel | I've a dlink dwa 111 usb wireless device. I've installed firmware ralink package using synaptic and then my wireless device is detected! when I've typed "iwconfig wlan0 essid "my_net"" I run correctly but when I retype iwconfig wlan0 It appears associated with "my_net" but AP results as "not associated"! and then dhclient doesn't work. I tried dmesg and this is the message : wlan0: authentication frame received fro |
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| 09:42.18 | bolt | Kurt_Godel: any encryption going on? |
| 09:42.20 | Kurt_Godel | no encryption bolt |
| 09:42.35 | Kurt_Godel | I live in a waste land XD |
| 09:42.53 | bolt | sounds like fun |
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| 09:43.32 | Kurt_Godel | is it possible that firmware doesn't work very well? |
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| 09:44.14 | bolt | bah. my laptop is out of juice. can't check my setup |
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| 09:44.35 | Kurt_Godel | have u also a dlink dwa 111 ? |
| 09:44.46 | bolt | dlink something anyway |
| 09:44.51 | bolt | this shouldn't be distribution specific, though. you could try #linux-wireless. they might know |
| 09:45.00 | Kurt_Godel | thanks :) |
| 09:45.12 | bolt | ..not that there's anything wrong with asking here. just if nobody answers :) |
| 09:45.35 | Kurt_Godel | :D |
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| 10:00.42 | Kurt_Godel | bolt : no solution in linux-wireless for my misterious problem XD |
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| 10:01.20 | scx | hello |
| 10:01.39 | scx | where i can find old-oldstable repository? |
| 10:01.55 | abby_ | scx: archive? |
| 10:02.17 | abby_ | scx: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
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| 10:02.28 | scx | abby_: thx |
| 10:02.31 | abby_ | np |
| 10:03.11 | abby_ | wow, now that I think of it, it'd be fun to install the first debian ever :) of course, i wouldn't go online with it |
| 10:03.48 | CaT[t2] | do you have the hardware required to run such an old kernel? :) |
| 10:04.03 | Kurt_Godel | an intel 8086 °_° |
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| 10:05.28 | abby_ | ... |
| 10:05.34 | abby_ | yeah, good point... |
| 10:06.01 | abby_ | isn't there an amiga branch? I have an A1200 :D |
| 10:06.15 | Kurt_Godel | XD |
| 10:06.18 | abby_ | 68020 processor with 14 MHz |
| 10:06.23 | abby_ | 2 MB RAM |
| 10:06.27 | Kurt_Godel | wow, try the PPC version |
| 10:06.53 | CaT[t2] | that's a motorolla not a powerpc |
| 10:06.58 | abby_ | no, the A1200 isn't ppc capable |
| 10:07.09 | abby_ | ppc started after the A4000 |
| 10:07.18 | abby_ | but tnx! |
| 10:07.22 | Kurt_Godel | powerpc have motorola cpu |
| 10:07.23 | CaT[t2] | there may be a 68k version. i keep getting tempted to buy a 2nd hand amiga but... emulators are just so nice these days |
| 10:07.36 | abby_ | yeah... |
| 10:07.54 | CaT[t2] | so it just doesn't seem worth it |
| 10:08.02 | abby_ | but it's not about the programs, it's the fun of getting debian to work on such ancient hardware |
| 10:08.18 | CaT[t2] | but it'd still be nice. i'd get an a4k if i did bite the bullet |
| 10:08.22 | Kurt_Godel | it's funny to see debian starting in 20 mins :D |
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| 10:08.35 | CaT[t2] | hopefully an 060 :) |
| 10:08.51 | abby_ | do you guys remember pOS |
| 10:08.51 | abby_ | ? |
| 10:09.02 | CaT[t2] | piece of... ;) |
| 10:09.10 | abby_ | it was a not so popular extension to AmigaOS |
| 10:09.16 | CaT[t2] | uhhh... rings a faint bell. very faint |
| 10:09.22 | abby_ | I think some german fellas developed it |
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| 10:09.55 | abby_ | http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/pos.html |
| 10:10.05 | Sancsengo | hi 2all |
| 10:10.25 | Kurt_Godel | good lunch guys |
| 10:10.59 | Kurt_Godel | see u |
| 10:11.20 | abby_ | damn, I'm hungry now |
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| 10:12.05 | abby_ | pOS seemed so posh in those days, now it looks worse than Xaw3d :) |
| 10:12.35 | Sancsengo | i cant see my NTFS partitions :S |
| 10:12.45 | CaT[t2] | harsh... but true :) |
| 10:12.54 | AcTiVaTe | fdisk -l does not show it? |
| 10:13.33 | Sancsengo | when im in root in the terminal i can see the list od files and directories |
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| 10:14.19 | abby_ | here I am, skipping my lexicology class in order to ponder about long forlorn computer history |
| 10:15.10 | Sancsengo | and sudo fdisk -l shows it |
| 10:15.35 | abby_ | Seems like your normal user doesn't have the permission to see the disk |
| 10:15.43 | Sancsengo | exactly |
| 10:15.59 | Sancsengo | how can i fix that? |
| 10:16.13 | abby_ | Is it mounted automatically at boot? If so, what does your /etc/fstab say? |
| 10:16.55 | Sancsengo | not mounted auto and in fstab is not there |
| 10:18.15 | abby_ | so you mounted it yourself and don't want it to be mounted auto. I wonder if pmount can mount ntfs? any1 knows? this'd be the easiest way. |
| 10:18.20 | abby_ | just a sec... |
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| 10:19.20 | abby_ | it says: "pmount is a wrapper around the standard mount program which permits normal users to mount removable devices without a matching /etc/fstab entry.", so I don't see why it shouldn't. So, install pmount and then try to mount it with it instead of sudo mount. |
| 10:19.41 | abby_ | First "sudo apt-get install pmount" |
| 10:20.05 | abby_ | Then, after installing, try something like: "pmount /dev/yourdisk" |
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| 10:20.19 | abby_ | yourdisk = the name of your disk partition |
| 10:20.51 | abby_ | if you type just "mount", look at the name of the ntfs partition after /dev/ |
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| 10:21.11 | Sancsengo | it says its alredy mounted :S |
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| 10:21.21 | abby_ | well, of course, first unmount |
| 10:21.32 | abby_ | "sudo umount /name/ofdisk" |
| 10:21.40 | abby_ | and then "pmount... bla bla |
| 10:21.52 | tlx | apt has xfce version 4.4 but the latest src is 4.6 |
| 10:21.52 | apt | tlx: that's too long |
| 10:21.55 | tlx | why is that |
| 10:23.03 | tlx | oh, it's unstabel |
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| 10:23.32 | abby_ | Sancsengo: does it work? *CURIOSITY FACTOR EXCEDING NORMAL PARAMETRES |
| 10:23.36 | abby_ | O_o |
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| 10:38.44 | abby_ | is dancing happily! |
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| 10:40.30 | ghang | is there any way to run the 32bits software in amd64 ? |
| 10:41.42 | empiric1 | guys any one works on HP data protector client on debian? |
| 10:42.18 | abby_ | ghang: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/534 |
| 10:42.35 | ghang | thanks abby_ i will look for it |
| 10:43.19 | abby_ | ghang: dunno, but i think that the 32-bit chroot method would be the best |
| 10:43.19 | abby_ | and np |
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| 10:43.27 | User513 | http://vosje.mybrute.com |
| 10:44.29 | ghang | i will try and see |
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| 10:47.00 | PiklesOnFire | hi errybody |
| 10:47.17 | abby_ | hi burning cucumber! |
| 10:47.22 | abby_ | :) |
| 10:47.31 | PiklesOnFire | :p |
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| 11:02.48 | Gast_579_ | i install the netversion the debian and now it stucks at get file 828 of 828, who cna help me? |
| 11:03.41 | gps23 | Zookey, , what did you chose in the package selection menu? both standard and graphical? |
| 11:04.01 | Zookey | standard, notebook and interface |
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| 11:04.14 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, interface isn't an option ;p |
| 11:04.23 | gps23 | Zookey, you mean graphical interface? |
| 11:04.46 | Zookey | hmm lol i have the german, so its desktop umgebung :P |
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| 11:05.00 | Zookey | yes i think its graphical interface, meant gnome |
| 11:05.00 | gps23 | Zookey, my recommendation is to chose netbook and standard first, you can always install graphical desktop later |
| 11:05.16 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, gotcha. does it say which package it is? |
| 11:05.24 | Zookey | but i am an noob, so i must install graphical interface :P |
| 11:05.28 | Zookey | no, just the last package |
| 11:05.38 | Zookey | 828 of 828 |
| 11:05.43 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, while fetching packages it don't show the names, atleast in the non-graphical install mode |
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| 11:06.21 | gps23 | Zookey, once you install debian and log in, its just a matter of 1 or 2 commands to install graphical |
| 11:06.23 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, ctrl+alt+f7 i think should show you the progress of the install, complete w. package names |
| 11:06.38 | PiklesOnFire | gps23, yes it does, you just have to switch to a different tty, i can't recall which one off hand though ;p |
| 11:06.39 | Zookey | ok i try and come back |
| 11:06.53 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, i will try that next time i will install debian |
| 11:06.58 | Maior | every time I use Debian, I'm more and more impressed |
| 11:07.04 | Zookey | lol |
| 11:07.05 | Zookey | brb |
| 11:07.20 | PiklesOnFire | gps23, why reinstall everything when it's as simple as reinstalling the one stuck package ;p |
| 11:07.24 | PiklesOnFire | kk Zookey |
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| 11:08.29 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, you are right but if debian seems stuck in downloading a package then that means it didn't installed any package coz installs happens after fetching all packages |
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| 11:09.29 | PiklesOnFire | depending on the package, he could proceed with the install by issuing a command, and then install the missing package later (i had this happen to me before. it's why i <3 #debian) |
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| 11:10.00 | Zookey | ok |
| 11:10.07 | Zookey | if i press your combination |
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| 11:10.11 | Zookey | i get blackscreen |
| 11:10.33 | Zookey | if i press ctrl+alt+f4 i get log, or whatever |
| 11:10.39 | Zookey | so? |
| 11:10.45 | PiklesOnFire | yeah, that's it. which package is it |
| 11:10.56 | Zookey | there is no information |
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| 11:10.59 | Zookey | lol |
| 11:11.05 | Zookey | there is somthing with hole 817 |
| 11:11.18 | Zookey | and then key pressed |
| 11:11.24 | Zookey | and with kernel |
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| 11:11.42 | abby_ | bye @ every1 (bots included) |
| 11:11.51 | Zookey | but there is no especially package called |
| 11:11.52 | PiklesOnFire | bye abby_ |
| 11:12.25 | Zookey | i can write it down |
| 11:12.31 | Zookey | its work, buti can, if you need |
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| 11:13.20 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, i'd go with what gps23 suggested. install the base first, then install the gui after that, because atm, i can't recall what i had done to fix this when i had the same issue =/ |
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| 11:13.38 | Zookey | what should i do now? |
| 11:13.51 | Zookey | press the on key 5 sec? |
| 11:14.33 | PiklesOnFire | nah - ctrl + alt + f3 |
| 11:14.35 | Zookey | does it help, if i say its win xp dual boot? |
| 11:14.39 | PiklesOnFire | then hit enter to activate the tty |
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| 11:14.50 | PiklesOnFire | then type reboot and press enter ;] |
| 11:15.15 | Zookey | what are the commands for install the gui after |
| 11:15.47 | Zookey | and can i install gnome and kde? |
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| 11:16.44 | gps23 | Zookey, once you installed debian and logged into it, then issue command "sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment" |
| 11:17.00 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, yep you can install both |
| 11:17.07 | gps23 | Zookey, i never installed gnome on debian but i think i told you the right package name |
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| 11:18.31 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, i think it's just gnome - it's a wrapper for a lot of gnome packages |
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| 11:18.48 | PiklesOnFire | apt-get install gnome gdm |
| 11:18.57 | PiklesOnFire | and if you want kde it would be apt-get install kde kdm |
| 11:19.06 | PiklesOnFire | note: you only need one kdm OR gdm, not both |
| 11:19.17 | Zharf | you don't need either |
| 11:19.18 | gps23 | Zookey, the first thing i do after installing debian is to enable bash command completion ;p |
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| 11:19.58 | PiklesOnFire | Zharf, he asked for a gui, i think that includes a login manager ;p |
| 11:20.07 | Zharf | PiklesOnFire, not necessarily! :) |
| 11:20.17 | Zharf | you can use the shell login as login manager also |
| 11:20.21 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, gnome and kde should include gdm and kdm respectively |
| 11:20.25 | Zharf | or console |
| 11:20.26 | Zharf | whatever |
| 11:20.35 | PiklesOnFire | gps23, nope, it doesn't. |
| 11:20.53 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, may be, i install fluxbox and i have to install slim too |
| 11:21.04 | PiklesOnFire | Zharf, you could... but again, he asked for the desktop env. that would install w. the cd, which would include a login manager. |
| 11:21.17 | PiklesOnFire | @gps23 mmmm slim |
| 11:21.19 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, but its just a window manager, gnome/kdm should be better in this |
| 11:22.00 | ronr | hi, I'm currently running 1 mailserver and want to change this to get better availability, could anyone point me to a good howto. I'd like a setup similar to my current setup: postfix -> amavis -> postfix -> dovecot for receiving, just dovecot for sending, however I want to run each part interchangable on two servers instead of one and have something balancing things to the server with the lowest load atm. |
| 11:22.01 | gps23 | installing gnome pulls gdm with it |
| 11:22.02 | PiklesOnFire | slim is a login manager ;p fluxbox is the window manager |
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| 11:22.19 | PiklesOnFire | gps23, good to know :] |
| 11:22.19 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, yes when did i said otherwise :) |
| 11:22.40 | PiklesOnFire | idk, i thought you meant slim was the wm ;p you weren't quite clear. lol, sorry |
| 11:23.02 | gps23 | PiklesOnFire, no i meant fluxbox is too lean-mean that i also have to install a login manager with it |
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| 11:23.32 | myeggo | i have broken window decorator, after a dist upgrade it unnistalled compiz and metacity, and now i am not able to install them back, apt says libmetacity is a broken package and is not installable |
| 11:23.41 | myeggo | what else can i use? gtk by example? |
| 11:23.42 | gps23 | doing aptitude install gnome, shows gdm in the packages to be install list |
| 11:23.48 | PiklesOnFire | myeggo, apt-get install -f |
| 11:23.55 | myeggo | i tried, nothing new to install |
| 11:24.30 | gps23 | myeggo, try "dpkg --configure -a" |
| 11:24.34 | PiklesOnFire | ^ |
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| 11:25.14 | Zookey | ok |
| 11:25.20 | Zookey | no i am installing one more time |
| 11:25.22 | myeggo | gps23: dpkg --configure -a returned nothing, after that i tried to install compiz-gnome by example but i get same error: compiz-gnome: Depende: libmetacity0 (>= 1:2.22.0) pero no es instalable |
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| 11:25.38 | myeggo | translation is: compizgnome depends libmetacity0(etc) but is not install able |
| 11:25.40 | Zookey | and after installing it without gui |
| 11:25.47 | Zookey | what must i type in console? |
| 11:25.56 | gps23 | myeggo, yeah, my fault, you talking abt broken packages, not unconfigured |
| 11:26.02 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, startx or reboot |
| 11:26.05 | myeggo | ahm :) |
| 11:26.11 | myeggo | i dont care too much compiz, i just want a window decorator |
| 11:26.14 | Zookey | what? |
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| 11:26.27 | Zookey | i noob, please explain it for me easier :) |
| 11:26.38 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, you asked what to type, type in startx |
| 11:26.45 | gps23 | once you install the system right, run the command i wrote above |
| 11:26.45 | PiklesOnFire | that will get you a graphical linux :] |
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| 11:27.24 | Zookey | can you repeat, i dont find it |
| 11:27.39 | gps23 | Zookey, "sudo aptitude install gnome" or "sudo aptitude install kde" |
| 11:27.53 | Zookey | thats all? |
| 11:28.14 | gps23 | Zookey, yes these are metapackages, they will install so many other packages |
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| 11:28.33 | Zookey | yes, and if i want kde, what verion does it install? |
| 11:28.54 | gps23 | Zookey, just install kde metapackage and you will be fine |
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| 11:29.20 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, kde 3.5 i believe |
| 11:29.28 | PiklesOnFire | unless you use the unstable branch |
| 11:29.38 | gps23 | Zookey, i don't think debian stable has kde4 |
| 11:30.39 | PiklesOnFire | gps23, you're right, unstable has kde4, stable is using kde 3.5 currently |
| 11:30.49 | PiklesOnFire | sorry, not unstable, experimental |
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| 11:30.56 | gps23 | testing |
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| 11:32.23 | PiklesOnFire | gps23, nope, testing is at 4.3 ;p |
| 11:32.35 | PiklesOnFire | unstable is at 4.5 |
| 11:32.42 | PiklesOnFire | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kde&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 11:32.53 | gps23 | 4.5 must be unstable in itself :) |
| 11:32.57 | Zookey | but cant i get 4 with the stable |
| 11:33.08 | jelly | Zookey: you can't |
| 11:33.16 | Zookey | :( |
| 11:33.20 | jelly | and we told you that last night as well |
| 11:33.29 | Zookey | really? |
| 11:33.36 | myeggo | xD |
| 11:33.36 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, you can mix repositories and get it. |
| 11:33.40 | Zookey | hmm i must change name :P |
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| 11:33.43 | ronr | what software would I need to create some kind of network drive between two machines, I want both to have the same data on the mount at all time, when I turn off one machine all data should always be on the other, after turning on the machine it should get back in sync asap |
| 11:33.51 | jelly | Zookey: could have been someone else starting with Zoo* though |
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| 11:34.31 | Zookey | yes and is there any keycombination for getting to desktop while running something in fullscreen like the windows home key? |
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| 11:35.15 | gps23 | Zookey, its control-D i think |
| 11:35.31 | gps23 | Zookey, its been long i used gnome/kde |
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| 11:35.40 | Zookey | ok |
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| 11:35.54 | Zookey | can i get a kde looking gnome? |
| 11:36.19 | gps23 | Zookey, hey man, i will be really happy once you start your install :) |
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| 11:36.26 | Zookey | (and if you told it me last night, i forgot it) |
| 11:36.30 | Zookey | i started it |
| 11:36.47 | Zookey | but i am waiting and running here between two houses xD |
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| 11:37.16 | gps23 | Zookey, isn't that a laptop on which you are installing debian? |
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| 11:38.04 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, you can, but i'm not going into it - there's an article on the Arch Linux Wiki site, it should be similar to what will be needed to do on debian, just modify the commands. here's the link: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_QT_and_GTK_apps |
| 11:38.58 | Zookey | gps23:yes it is |
| 11:39.25 | Zookey | is there any problem? |
| 11:39.42 | gps23 | nope, you said you are running b/w two houses so i asked |
| 11:40.06 | Zookey | yes, but here is a pc with wlan to that router |
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| 11:40.11 | Zookey | and the router is in other house |
| 11:40.18 | Zookey | and there is the lan |
| 11:40.24 | Zookey | and i am installing net version |
| 11:40.24 | gps23 | Zookey, oh, i got |
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| 11:40.50 | Zookey | you understand why? |
| 11:40.55 | gps23 | yup |
| 11:41.26 | Zookey | k |
| 11:41.43 | Zookey | lol without gui that are just 161 packages |
| 11:42.05 | WormFood | would someone be kind enough to point me to the info about compiling a package into a deb, without an existing debian package (I have the info about updating a package already in debian) |
| 11:42.33 | gps23 | yes thats why i prefer to install without graphical, i schedule heavy packages for night when downloading is free |
| 11:42.33 | Zookey | gnome or kde? |
| 11:42.34 | gps23 | :) |
| 11:42.39 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html |
| 11:42.52 | gps23 | Zookey, its purely your choice |
| 11:43.19 | WormFood | thanks PiklesOnFire |
| 11:43.20 | Zookey | i really dont like gnome, but i thinks it dont eat so much ressources |
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| 11:43.39 | Zookey | can i install both and look out which is better for me? |
| 11:43.49 | gps23 | Zookey, kde3.5 doesn't eat either |
| 11:44.01 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, any time :] |
| 11:44.02 | gps23 | Zookey, sure you can |
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| 11:44.41 | WormFood | how about 2:30 tomorrow? |
| 11:45.07 | PiklesOnFire | it's 7:45am here, and i haven't been to sleep, please define tomorrow? :p |
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| 11:45.10 | Zookey | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.19 | WormFood | it is 7:40 pm here |
| 11:45.28 | WormFood | I mean, 7:45 pm |
| 11:45.28 | gps23 | Zookey, you will get an option at login time |
| 11:45.39 | Zookey | lol its 13:45 pm here |
| 11:45.54 | WormFood | you must be on the east coast of usa (or Canuckistan) PiklesOnFire |
| 11:45.56 | Zookey | you are in america? |
| 11:46.16 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, yep, east coast :] |
| 11:46.27 | WormFood | Zookey, you can't use am/pm on 24 hour time |
| 11:46.34 | Zookey | lol |
| 11:46.36 | WormFood | so "13:45 pm" does not compute |
| 11:46.56 | WormFood | I'm from the east coast of usa, but I'm in China :D |
| 11:46.56 | Zookey | lol i looked at pc time and then put pm/am as suffix |
| 11:47.05 | gps23 | logically not wrong but its redundant :) |
| 11:47.19 | Zookey | yep |
| 11:47.25 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, well you could... it would be "date +... |
| 11:47.32 | PiklesOnFire | i'm too tired to type out a date command |
| 11:47.32 | PiklesOnFire | lol |
| 11:47.38 | Zookey | here in germany pm/am ist not usually used :] |
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| 11:47.50 | WormFood | well, if it wasn't for carbon-14, I wouldn't date at all |
| 11:48.09 | Zookey | wait, i run to the other house |
| 11:48.14 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, i use date to timestamp my backups, so i date daily |
| 11:48.15 | PiklesOnFire | ;p |
| 11:48.26 | PiklesOnFire | man, how is china this evening? |
| 11:48.28 | gps23 | i use date to go with girls :) |
| 11:49.33 | WormFood | I must be overlooking something, but I can't for the life of me get my wireless card associated with my AP on the command line (I don't want to edit the network file in /etc) |
| 11:49.38 | WormFood | China is good for me |
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| 11:49.53 | PiklesOnFire | i'm hardcore geek, i'm scared of girls ;p |
| 11:49.58 | PiklesOnFire | except my girlfriend. |
| 11:49.59 | PiklesOnFire | lol |
| 11:49.59 | WormFood | I'm just about to slip out and take a walk, but first I wanted to get some data transferring between my 2 computers |
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| 11:50.57 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, what happens when you try to? any messages? some sort of feedback? a message saying "you have evil gnomes in your pc and they are refusing packets at this time!" |
| 11:50.59 | WormFood | http://wormfood.net/pictures/dsc04076a.jpg this is where I go for my walk....in the background is the 2nd largest deep water port in China, and in the foreground is a soviet era aircraft carrier |
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| 11:51.16 | PiklesOnFire | oh wow |
| 11:51.21 | PiklesOnFire | that's amazing |
| 11:51.31 | PiklesOnFire | (being serious here) |
| 11:51.50 | WormFood | http://wormfood.net/pictures/fire_sign.jpg and if you want a really good laugh, read this (especially the 3rd line of the small print) |
| 11:52.05 | gps23 | seems good but would have been better if the pic had been taken during day |
| 11:52.16 | WormFood | yeah PiklesOnFire, I saw that scene, and I had to take a picture of it (if you remove the "a" in the picture name, you can get the original giant sized image) |
| 11:52.25 | WormFood | I have pics of it during the day |
| 11:52.47 | Zookey | bash sudo command not found |
| 11:52.53 | Zookey | :( |
| 11:53.20 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, the orig is a lil grainy ;p |
| 11:53.28 | WormFood | feel free to browse through that pic directory, and if you want to see more pics from china, drop me a /msg, and I'll give you the url to my private gallery |
| 11:53.45 | WormFood | yeah, because it is super high res, and taken at night |
| 11:54.01 | WormFood | zoom in on any super high res picture, and it will be a little grainy |
| 11:54.20 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, i was just givin ya a hard time :p |
| 11:54.21 | gps23 | WormFood, i disagree |
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| 11:54.25 | Zookey | why is sudo no command? |
| 11:54.33 | WormFood | PiklesOnFire, you're the wrong sex to give me a "hard time" :P |
| 11:54.59 | WormFood | I only go for women ;) |
| 11:55.05 | PiklesOnFire | same. |
| 11:55.07 | PiklesOnFire | haha |
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| 11:55.12 | [kapal] | Zookey: maybe you don't have sudo package installed |
| 11:55.13 | Zookey | gps? |
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| 11:55.18 | WormFood | then why are you trying to give me a hard time :P |
| 11:55.21 | Zookey | and how to |
| 11:55.21 | gps23 | Zookey, sudo isn't installed |
| 11:55.33 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, i was just... |
| 11:55.34 | Zookey | and howto |
| 11:55.38 | Zookey | install sudo |
| 11:55.39 | [kapal] | Zookey: check: dpkg -l |grep sudo |
| 11:55.42 | PiklesOnFire | carefully thinks of how to word it |
| 11:55.47 | [kapal] | Zookey: apt-get install sudo |
| 11:55.48 | gps23 | Zookey, if you have enabled root account then you can log in there and installed the graphical and sudo package |
| 11:56.02 | PiklesOnFire | just shuts up |
| 11:56.10 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, su - |
| 11:56.10 | Zookey | have root account password |
| 11:56.17 | WormFood | ok, can anyone point out where I've overlooked something on iwconfig? I've done iwconfig eth1 essid MyAPName key "[1]" 1234567890 |
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| 11:56.30 | WormFood | always shows not-associated |
| 11:56.31 | gps23 | Zookey, follow PiklesOnFire's way |
| 11:56.37 | Zookey | so i must put in: apt-get install sudo |
| 11:56.55 | Zookey | ? |
| 11:57.15 | gps23 | Zookey, you should |
| 11:57.17 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, this may sound really dumb, but did you do ifconfig eth1 up? |
| 11:57.25 | Zookey | and then it install |
| 11:57.34 | Zookey | and after i can install the gui? |
| 11:57.37 | joeytwiddle | but first you must su - |
| 11:57.42 | joeytwiddle | then apt-get ... |
| 11:57.46 | Zookey | just su - |
| 11:57.48 | Zookey | ? |
| 11:57.57 | joeytwiddle | yes, because you don't have sudo, that is the way to become root :) |
| 11:58.11 | Zookey | ok and must i give my root password? |
| 11:58.16 | WormFood | One of the other system administrators where I worked was always very careful to lock his x11 session before leaving his computer....I told him it didn't matter, and I could get into his computer....he didn't believe me....so I told him what to type to do it, and he was shocked....then I told him how to make what I showed him not work |
| 11:58.19 | gps23 | Zookey, you can install sudo and gui in any order, if you install gui first then use su, if you install gui after sudo then you have choice |
| 11:58.36 | WormFood | PiklesOnFire, it should not need to be "up" to associate it with an access point |
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| 11:59.08 | Zookey | ok if i understand right: i type su - then apt-get install sudo |
| 11:59.11 | WormFood | and, I did also try to bring it up |
| 11:59.13 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, from what i've read it should be. and also, did you run iwconfig eth1 mode managed? |
| 11:59.17 | Zookey | and then install gui |
| 11:59.23 | maxagaz | how to set my bash in utf8 ? |
| 11:59.24 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, just do su -c apt-get install sudo gnome |
| 11:59.25 | WormFood | yes, but it is already in managed mode |
| 11:59.44 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, that will install sudo and a gui for you, all at once |
| 11:59.52 | Zookey | piklesonfire: that's all |
| 11:59.55 | PiklesOnFire | that's it |
| 12:00.01 | WormFood | and I even unloaded and reloaded the driver, just in case (sometimes after scanning, it will break, and I'll have to reload the driver) |
| 12:00.06 | Zookey | and after, i can install the second gui over terminal, if i want |
| 12:00.12 | gps23 | Zookey, PiklesOnFire told the best way |
| 12:00.43 | gps23 | Zookey, yes, then you use graphical package managers too like synaptic |
| 12:00.44 | WormFood | I wished I had another network cable long enough to plug it into my router....but I loaned my other cable to someone, and I forget who (also, the cable is too short) |
| 12:00.53 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, i'm out of ideas, "man iwconfig" ;] |
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| 12:00.59 | Zookey | ok i'll try |
| 12:01.14 | Zookey | running to other house -.- |
| 12:02.11 | WormFood | and I just set the AP's mac with the "ap" option in iwconfg...still no go |
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| 12:03.05 | Zookey | unknow id: install |
| 12:03.32 | WormFood | I've done this from the command line before, and I can't imagine what I'm forgetting or doing wrong |
| 12:03.52 | Zookey | piklesonfire: why? |
| 12:05.03 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, i can't either, it looks good to me, so i'm at a loss =/ |
| 12:05.12 | Zookey | what am i doing wrondP |
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| 12:05.21 | ranix | wrondP? |
| 12:05.27 | Zookey | wrong? |
| 12:05.28 | ranix | might want to run a memcheck there buddy |
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| 12:06.03 | Zookey | memcheck cause of unknown ID: install? |
| 12:06.12 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, did you login already? |
| 12:06.17 | PiklesOnFire | you login as your basic user |
| 12:06.21 | Zookey | yes |
| 12:06.30 | PiklesOnFire | then run the su -c apt-get install sudo gnome |
| 12:06.35 | PiklesOnFire | exactly as that |
| 12:06.41 | PiklesOnFire | and it gives you that error message? |
| 12:06.46 | Zookey | yes |
| 12:07.06 | PiklesOnFire | i think you might want to double check what you typed in ;] |
| 12:07.21 | Zookey | i doublechecked it |
| 12:07.44 | Zookey | su -c apt-get install sudo gnome |
| 12:07.47 | Zookey | thats it |
| 12:08.07 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, what is the output of su -c echo "THIS IS A TEST" |
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| 12:08.18 | Zookey | waitmust run |
| 12:08.25 | PiklesOnFire | or the output of su -c whoami |
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| 12:12.19 | Zookey | ok |
| 12:12.24 | Zookey | if i put whoami |
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| 12:12.47 | Zookey | then appears password |
| 12:13.00 | Zookey | i put in the root password |
| 12:13.05 | Zookey | then i get the message root |
| 12:13.22 | Zookey | and if i put in su -c apt-get install sudo gnome |
| 12:13.31 | Zookey | i get still unknown id: install |
| 12:13.42 | Zookey | and if i just put in apt-get install sudo |
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| 12:13.52 | Zookey | it says i have not the rights |
| 12:14.29 | [kapal] | Zookey: try with doublequotes: su -c "apt-get install sudo gnome" |
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| 12:14.46 | Zookey | after identify as root? |
| 12:14.46 | PiklesOnFire | [kapal] i actually found out the command i gave won't work |
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| 12:14.51 | PiklesOnFire | just su - |
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| 12:15.02 | Zookey | ok su - |
| 12:15.04 | Zookey | and then |
| 12:15.16 | PiklesOnFire | and then it should prompt for root pw |
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| 12:15.25 | Zookey | ok and then what command#? |
| 12:15.35 | PiklesOnFire | apt-get install gnome sudo |
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| 12:16.03 | Zookey | ok sure? |
| 12:16.16 | PiklesOnFire | btw [kapal] if you are interested the correct command WOULD have been su - -c "apt-get install gnome sudo" |
| 12:16.28 | PiklesOnFire | yep, i'm sure. or Zookey you can use the command i just posted above ^ |
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| 12:16.52 | [kapal] | PiklesOnFire: true :) |
| 12:16.56 | Zookey | ok i'll try before to identify as root |
| 12:17.03 | Zookey | and then the command |
| 12:17.05 | Zookey | brb |
| 12:17.09 | PiklesOnFire | kk |
| 12:17.25 | PiklesOnFire | [kapal], jic you ever need it ;] |
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| 12:18.07 | [kapal] | PiklesOnFire: btw I don't know my root passwd :) |
| 12:18.15 | WormFood | I give up trying to make this cocksucker work....I'm going for my walk...I'll fight with this shit later |
| 12:18.19 | PiklesOnFire | [kapal], srsly? |
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| 12:18.32 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, enjoy your walk. have a cigg while yer at it |
| 12:18.56 | WormFood | I don't smoke that nasty shit....I only smoke sweet weed |
| 12:19.01 | [kapal] | PiklesOnFire: well I have it stored safely, but i dont know it really its random :) |
| 12:19.08 | Zookey | k it works |
| 12:19.17 | Zookey | must download 595mb :/ |
| 12:19.36 | PiklesOnFire | [kapal], haha, i have mine set to a string of 63 chars, if someone gets it, they deserve it |
| 12:19.59 | PiklesOnFire | full hard disk encryption + lvm + cd boot disabled + hard disk password |
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| 12:20.11 | Zookey | lol |
| 12:20.13 | PiklesOnFire | i've made it damn near impossible to get access to my system files :] |
| 12:20.20 | PiklesOnFire | (i'm paranoid) |
| 12:20.22 | [kapal] | PiklesOnFire: you've rewritten a poem or a novel? :P |
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| 12:20.37 | PiklesOnFire | and WormFood i'd never admit to that on IRC ;] |
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| 12:21.02 | Zookey | hey if i will install kde then |
| 12:21.10 | WormFood | why? I'm in China...I'm not worried about the usa government....and the chinese government does not care |
| 12:21.11 | PiklesOnFire | [kapal], a novel :p |
| 12:21.21 | PiklesOnFire | (i'm currently working on a book actually) |
| 12:21.25 | WormFood | hell, smoking weed here is almost legal |
| 12:21.28 | Zookey | i must put in console su - and then get-apt install kde |
| 12:21.41 | WormFood | AND, as a foreigner, they really don't care what I do most of the time. |
| 12:21.44 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, apt-get install kde |
| 12:22.11 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, lucky bastard. not like it matters, in the states they rly don't give a shit either. |
| 12:22.11 | Zookey | k, thank you, security fetishist :P |
| 12:22.22 | PiklesOnFire | np |
| 12:22.23 | WormFood | yes they do PiklesOnFire |
| 12:22.52 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, meh, i guess it's just not so bad in FL then, cuz cops here rly don't care as long as you're not REALLY obvious about it |
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| 12:23.12 | WormFood | almost everyone I know that smokes weed has had some brush with the law because of it....I only know a few people that haven't |
| 12:23.20 | doudou1 | Hi i just found http://www.secuobs.com/secumail/btsecumail/msg15556.shtml but i cant understand what it means? |
| 12:23.23 | WormFood | PiklesOnFire, I'm from floraduh |
| 12:23.30 | PiklesOnFire | well, i have, but i was tripping balls, so i don't think that counts |
| 12:23.38 | PiklesOnFire | office: can i see your id? |
| 12:23.38 | WormFood | PiklesOnFire, where abouts in Floraduh are you? |
| 12:23.44 | PiklesOnFire | me: and the cop a bowl |
| 12:23.45 | PiklesOnFire | lmao |
| 12:23.53 | PiklesOnFire | that 813 ;p |
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| 12:23.57 | PiklesOnFire | tampa dude |
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| 12:24.15 | Zookey | what state do you live, piklesonfire? |
| 12:24.16 | WormFood | I'm from not too far away...I'm from the Ocala area (just south of gainesville) |
| 12:24.23 | WormFood | Zookey, HE JUST SAID IT! |
| 12:24.36 | Zookey | is floraduh a statE? |
| 12:24.41 | PiklesOnFire | lmao @ WormFood that's like... a good 8 hour drive from me |
| 12:24.44 | WormFood | yes |
| 12:24.51 | Zookey | lol |
| 12:24.52 | WormFood | it is not 8 hours |
| 12:24.57 | WormFood | maybe 2 hours at most |
| 12:24.58 | PiklesOnFire | chyeah it is |
| 12:25.04 | PiklesOnFire | no way man |
| 12:25.06 | ar0nic | hey guys can someone point me in the direction of a good debian noob faq |
| 12:25.07 | PiklesOnFire | h.o. |
| 12:25.17 | WormFood | yes way man...in 8 hours I can drive to miami |
| 12:25.25 | Zookey | ll |
| 12:25.26 | doudou1 | they sold debian to americans? |
| 12:25.34 | Zookey | lolol |
| 12:25.57 | WormFood | and yes Zookey, after the 2000 elections, they changed the name of Florida to FloraDUH |
| 12:25.59 | Zookey | pikles why not using wonderful windows? |
| 12:26.12 | ar0nic | my pc reset, killed my session of putty now rtorrent is held by pid that isnt listed in ps aux |
| 12:26.15 | PiklesOnFire | ar0nic, i can't find a guide, but http://wiki.debian.org/ is a great place for a start |
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| 12:26.31 | Zookey | lol so you live in florida? |
| 12:26.36 | Zookey | lol |
| 12:26.42 | ar0nic | i had all my commands in notepad, and it didnt save.. =| |
| 12:26.50 | PiklesOnFire | Zookey, i am security paranoid, why would i use windows? |
| 12:27.00 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, your'e right, it's about 4 :p |
| 12:27.02 | ar0nic | would anyone know how to either restore or kill it? |
| 12:27.11 | Zookey | cause windows is fucking security good |
| 12:27.13 | Zookey | itself |
| 12:27.13 | WormFood | no, not even 4 |
| 12:27.27 | WormFood | it is between 2 and 3 hours, depending on where you are going, and how fast you drive |
| 12:27.43 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, 4 if you do the speed limit. i just mapquested it :p |
| 12:27.55 | WormFood | I lived in florida waaaay too long....I was there over 35 years |
| 12:28.14 | WormFood | I couldn't wait to get out of Florida...and the usa |
| 12:28.24 | PiklesOnFire | I've been here... 22 years. lol |
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| 12:28.40 | PiklesOnFire | I can't wait to get outta fl either. but i wanna get my phd first ;p |
| 12:29.14 | Zookey | ok i go now |
| 12:29.15 | WormFood | you want to get some pcp first? |
| 12:29.23 | PiklesOnFire | WormFood, 1hr 21 mins. |
| 12:29.23 | Zookey | bye :) |
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| 12:29.29 | PiklesOnFire | peace Zookey |
| 12:29.39 | PiklesOnFire | haha, angel trumpets beat pcp any day |
| 12:29.42 | WormFood | 1 hour, 21 minutes for what? |
| 12:29.59 | WormFood | I wouldn't know, I only smoke weed |
| 12:30.06 | WormFood | and I only drink when I can't get weed |
| 12:30.08 | WormFood | actually, I can' |
| 12:30.09 | ronr | what debian packages / howtos should I check out to create a shared disk between two debian machines that are always synced? |
| 12:30.15 | WormFood | t find weed in china, only hash |
| 12:30.18 | RainbowW | so i have a hosted unmanaged vps somewhere in the ether. it's using an apparently custom smp kernel based on 2.6.18-53 for Xen. i want to throttle the nic for all traffic so i don't go over my bandwidth allocation; is there an easy way to do this? |
| 12:30.27 | PiklesOnFire | to get from my place to ocala |
| 12:30.54 | WormFood | yes, that sounds reasonable, but PiklesOnFire, I'm from a little south of Ocala, near a city called Belleview |
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| 12:31.10 | WormFood | so that right there cuts off 10-15 minutes of travel time |
| 12:31.22 | WormFood | you must be on the NE side of tampa |
| 12:31.37 | PiklesOnFire | yup. |
| 12:32.35 | WormFood | I can't even remember why I went to tampa the last time I went |
| 12:32.38 | bzed | WormFood, PiklesOnFire: your smoking behaviour is pretty much off topic here |
| 12:32.48 | WormFood | I'm about equal distance from Jacksonville, Orlando, and Tampa |
| 12:33.10 | WormFood | bzed, so is you telling us we're off topic :P |
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| 12:33.36 | ranix | #debian-offtopic |
| 12:33.39 | WormFood | tell us we're off topic, in the off topic channel ;) |
| 12:33.59 | ranix | this is the on-topic channel |
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| 12:34.29 | bzed | ronr: depends on your sotrage |
| 12:34.46 | WormFood | it is a moot point now, as I'm leaving for my walk....åè§ |
| 12:34.57 | bzed | ronr: if you have a shared storage, you need to look into cluster filesystems, like ocfs (there're others...) |
| 12:35.23 | PiklesOnFire | who died and made you two queen? |
| 12:35.34 | bzed | ronr: if you don;'t have a shared storage, you need to look into drbd first |
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| 12:38.09 | ronr | bzed: thx, I don;'t have shared storage so I'll look at drbd |
| 12:38.38 | PiklesOnFire | btw - i was jk - sorry guys, i'll try to stay on topic |
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| 12:48.51 | smaug9 | hi |
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| 12:49.22 | alecs1 | hi, how do I find out which video driver is currently running? |
| 12:49.29 | alecs1 | radeon vs radeonhd |
| 12:49.46 | Eulex | read Xorg.0.log |
| 12:49.54 | alecs1 | ok, thanks |
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| 12:59.35 | HardDisk_WP | hey all |
| 12:59.49 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone know of a simple(!!!!) proxy that just does the following: |
| 13:00.20 | HardDisk_WP | if connection request arrives at localhost:$port, then accept connection and open connection to $remote_machine:$port |
| 13:00.30 | HardDisk_WP | and then simply forward the data |
| 13:00.43 | HardDisk_WP | if one side closes the socket, then the proxy shall close the other one as well |
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| 13:02.59 | sjiv | http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/pkgsrc/net/bounce/ |
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| 13:05.06 | piper69 | Good Morning if its morning, and Good evening if its evening at your end ! |
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| 13:05.29 | flami | Hi , is there a way to check which packages from experimental I have installed? |
| 13:05.32 | Eulex | what if it's neither? :) |
| 13:05.46 | Eulex | flami, no, you cannot know from where you got a package |
| 13:05.57 | flami | ok thanks ^^ |
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| 13:06.13 | flami | its more like noon for me |
| 13:06.16 | Eulex | you can look at the version of it, and if that version of the package only ever was in experimental, you got it from there |
| 13:06.22 | flami | I feel disapointed now |
| 13:06.30 | Eulex | it's hard to do that programmatically tho |
| 13:06.45 | ghang | my playback device cannot detect by alsa , so gnome-sound recoder and skype cannot use , how to set up |
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| 13:06.50 | flami | yes Im erm upgrading to unstable now ;) |
| 13:07.01 | Eulex | I wouldn't call that an upgrade |
| 13:07.03 | Eulex | :p |
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| 13:07.10 | flami | hence the erm |
| 13:07.20 | Eulex | ^^ |
| 13:07.26 | nkuttler | flami: um, script around apt-cache policy |
| 13:07.27 | flami | maybe I should have said "upgrade" |
| 13:07.48 | flami | hum yeah that might work |
| 13:07.55 | Eulex | nkuttler, will only work if the installed package version is still in experimental |
| 13:08.12 | nkuttler | true |
| 13:08.25 | Eulex | one thing I made with apt-cache policy tho was a 'clieanliness' test of a system |
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| 13:08.53 | flami | ah well , I hope after a while that most of my system is on unstable |
| 13:08.56 | Eulex | checked which packages were either not up to date, or were installed through repositories that you don't have anymore |
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| 13:09.06 | flami | I ditched the testing unstable experimental mix :P |
| 13:09.32 | Eulex | flami, heh, that's kinda where I currently is... but mostly testing |
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| 13:10.00 | flami | after a while I thought that too many core libs were unstable , so I decided to "upgrade" |
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| 13:10.19 | Eulex | bbl |
| 13:10.20 | piper69 | our church preset gave me a religous DVD and he want me to clip parts of it, I spend whole day yesterday trying to do it in my $tupid windows box, using Ulead Video studio! and when its time to burn the Disc it first complained about it will not fit a 4.7GB DVD? wtf any ways is there is a tool i can download to my lenny Lappy and use it instead? |
| 13:10.54 | flami | hum I think avidemux might be what youre looking for |
| 13:11.11 | piper69 | *priest |
| 13:12.09 | piper69 | flami: but how do i right the movie to avi format |
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| 13:12.40 | jamon | piper69: ffmpeg will convert formats |
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| 13:14.00 | ranix | would (yes 1 >/dev/sda) fill my drive with 1s? |
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| 13:14.19 | ranix | or is there a better way to do that |
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| 13:15.08 | piper69 | flami: jamon thank you folks |
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| 13:19.50 | sjiv | ranix: "with 1s" as in "the drives stores a long string of 0s and 1s"? then no. |
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| 13:20.33 | ranix | sjiv: I have decided my question was stupid |
| 13:20.40 | ranix | I just didn't know what to ask |
| 13:20.45 | ranix | I have asked oftc a better question |
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| 13:21.31 | Dillizar | i have elive on 4.0 debian if i change the source list will it become a "debian"?? but with e17 :) |
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| 13:24.36 | flami | Uhh , I just upgraded to xserver 7.4 |
| 13:24.45 | flami | and now my console looks "different" |
| 13:25.11 | flami | is that this marvelous KMS thingy ? |
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| 13:28.08 | piper69 | flami: can't find avidemux pkg with apt-cache search |
| 13:28.43 | liable | marillat |
| 13:29.00 | liable | !dmo |
| 13:29.14 | liable | !dmm |
| 13:29.14 | dpkg | somebody said dmm was Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 13:30.29 | piper69 | lenny is stable no! |
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| 13:31.04 | flami | ahh piper gimme a sec |
| 13:32.02 | djace | will a "47 6 * * */2 root command" crontab line work for executing someting on a bi-dialy basis? |
| 13:32.14 | flami | piper69: is that a video camera with Dv ? because then Kino is a really nice tool |
| 13:32.26 | flami | also Id search with aptitude search .... |
| 13:32.47 | piper69 | flami: no it is a DVD |
| 13:33.04 | eightyeight | djace: nope. you'll have to have to write a script to calculate every other day |
| 13:33.26 | flami | ok well Its been a while since I used video editing |
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| 13:33.38 | [kapal] | Do you know how to search packages by tags with apt, or other command-line tool, i seem to cant find it anywhere on documentation and the web? |
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| 13:33.51 | ghang | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.54 | djace | eightyeight, how come? the "/2" doesn't work for the day-of-week field? |
| 13:34.29 | eightyeight | djace: sure, it works, but there are 7 days in the week, so it will always run on the same days every week |
| 13:34.45 | flami | piper69: I think cinelerra is a good video editing tool |
| 13:34.52 | djace | oh, that's ok :D |
| 13:35.03 | flami | http://www.linux.com/feature/60624 |
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| 13:35.48 | flami | I normally use avidemux to convert some videos |
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| 13:36.37 | eightyeight | djace: thinking about it, you would be better served with '47 6 */2 * * root command' |
| 13:37.23 | piper69 | flami: i want to do this in less than 24hrs for him, so what do you think my chances are! |
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| 13:37.49 | piper69 | flami: should i use avidemux or what?! |
| 13:38.23 | flami | so you just want to cut some pieces out of that dvd and paste them in a new video |
| 13:38.25 | flami | ? |
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| 13:38.40 | djace | eightyeight, true, thanks :D |
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| 13:38.56 | flami | I think then avidemux works |
| 13:39.07 | piper69 | flami: yes, and if possible make a menu and assign like each clip it own chapter |
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| 13:39.25 | flami | huu for that maybe cinelerra might be better |
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| 13:40.45 | flami | http://cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_20.html#SEC282 <-- how to make a menu |
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| 13:41.44 | piper69 | flami: dude who are you!!!? GOD :) |
| 13:41.50 | piper69 | man thank you so much |
| 13:41.59 | flami | no google is my god ^^ |
| 13:42.18 | piper69 | flami: rotflmao |
| 13:42.27 | flami | well and a little knowledge about what tools to use :P |
| 13:43.06 | piper69 | flami: and these tool will burn the dvd for me right |
| 13:43.34 | flami | thats a good question , I noramlly use K3b to burn |
| 13:43.36 | flami | lemme check |
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| 13:44.02 | flami | ha just scroll down a little on htat link ^^ |
| 13:44.28 | flami | it has great documentation |
| 13:44.45 | flami | 20.9.4 Burning a DVD |
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| 13:46.09 | flami | well basically it shows you how to make a .iso , which you then can burn on a dvd |
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| 13:47.41 | piper69 | flami: i never did burn even a regular cd using Debian , so let alot DVD, i don't even know if lenny see my dvd burner |
| 13:47.45 | XB23 | i just installed apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm and it installed lots of dependancies however i did apt-get remove x-window-system kde kdm but it hasnt removed the dependancies , how do i remove all the things it installed cause its took loads of hdd space up lol |
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| 13:49.30 | flami | piper69: try k3b, its my favorite burining software, about the dvdburner, Im perdy sure youll be fine. |
| 13:49.59 | ShredZ | Is there a program that lets me link certain windows to tasks and keeps track of how much total time I spend in which window ? |
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| 13:51.56 | XB23 | i just installed apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm and it installed lots of dependancies however i did apt-get remove x-window-system kde kdm but it hasnt removed the dependancies , how do i remove all the things it installed cause its took loads of hdd space up lol |
| 13:52.07 | flami | I dont know much about gnome cd burning software. just googlea little. |
| 13:52.17 | stew | XB23: try "apt-get autoremove" |
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| 13:52.34 | XB23 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 13:53.03 | stew | XB23: what version of debian is this? |
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| 13:53.20 | XB23 | 5.0 lenny |
| 13:53.31 | sjiv | XB23: had you used aptitude for install and remove, this might have worked. apt-get isn't smart enough |
| 13:53.38 | XB23 | ah |
| 13:53.49 | stew | sjiv: apt-get is smart enough |
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| 13:54.43 | XB23 | whats best way to do it stew |
| 13:54.51 | XB23 | its took up 2gb of space with dependancies |
| 13:54.55 | XB23 | dont really want to reinstall lol |
| 13:55.12 | stew | XB23: you want to remove all of kde and xorg? |
| 13:55.16 | stew | XB23: or just all of kde? |
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| 13:55.50 | XB23 | well i just want to clear kde and xorg and all its dependancies it installed |
| 13:56.56 | stew | XB23: perhaps something like "aptitude purge '~nkdelibs*' x11-common |
| 13:57.38 | XB23 | that got 600meg freed up |
| 13:57.46 | XB23 | anything else i can do |
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| 13:59.27 | sjiv | stew: ok, i'm clueless. |
| 13:59.37 | greymalkin | apt/dpkg problem: openldap didn't upgrade, complained about database problems, I dumped and reloaded by hand, everything is done, but apt can't get over not having "properly" upgraded... |
| 13:59.56 | sjiv | is there a command like print-dependency-closure-of pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 ? |
| 14:00.13 | XB23 | stew any ideas? |
| 14:00.39 | stew | sjiv: what exactly do you mean? |
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| 14:01.21 | stew | XB23: you could look at what was installed in /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 14:01.37 | sjiv | stew: the "closure" is the least set of packages that contains pkg1,pkg2,pkg3 and has no unmet dependencies |
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| 14:02.27 | stew | XB23: perhaps "aptitude purge '~i~sx11' '~i~skde'" |
| 14:03.14 | piper69 | for gnome i found GnomeBaker what you guys think?! |
| 14:03.23 | XB23 | cool |
| 14:03.24 | XB23 | ty |
| 14:03.32 | piper69 | any recommendations |
| 14:03.40 | stew | sjiv: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 14:03.51 | stew | sjiv: at a higher level, i mean |
| 14:04.23 | sjiv | stew: purge all packages that are not in the closure of pkg1,pkg2,pkg3 |
| 14:04.28 | extor | Is it possible to install an ubuntu hardy package on debian lenny? |
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| 14:05.16 | stew | sjiv: you mean for XB23? |
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| 14:05.52 | stew | extor: possible but DEFINATELY not recommended. you could 'backport' it following the same instructions as a sid backport, but using a ubuntu source instead of a sid deb-src: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 14:06.22 | sjiv | stew: mostly for myself. maybe it'll help him, maybe not |
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| 14:07.43 | extor | Is there any way to get my hands on a discontinued package that used to be in lenny but is no longer there? The package name is jbidwatcher and it used to work fine for me in lenny but some whiners from germany got it banned |
| 14:08.15 | extor | does the ftp have a list of .deb files from all the past builds? |
| 14:08.16 | stew | extor: you can try sdn, but its getting into a state of disrepair |
| 14:08.36 | stew | extor: "/msg dpkg sdn" tha tis |
| 14:08.36 | extor | Hrmm so would I need to download an old .iso of lenny perhaps? |
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| 14:09.09 | extor | Ahhh http://snapshot.debian.net/ is my answer |
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| 14:10.08 | bzed | extor: sometimes even ubuntu is useful :|https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/jbidwatcher/1:1.0.2+dfsg-1 |
| 14:10.18 | stew | bzed: that's where we started :) |
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| 14:11.27 | extor | Hrmm launchpad |
| 14:12.07 | extor | Thats the tarball though...I was looking for the original .deb which puts a nice little icon on my desktop and also downloads the correct Java dependency |
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| 14:13.44 | XB23 | if i type in apt-get install gnome |
| 14:13.51 | XB23 | will that let me use vnc? |
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| 14:14.09 | bzed | extor: just rebuild the package. but actually it was removed from debian as it is too often broken, due to ebay page changes |
| 14:14.28 | bzed | extor: installing it manually id probably still the best option |
| 14:14.31 | extor | No it was working fine for me for sniping |
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| 14:14.34 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search vnc |
| 14:14.45 | extor | I just installed the deb and it doesnt even launch properly :( |
| 14:15.01 | extor | I think I will have to install it in wine using the winders installer |
| 14:15.05 | tlx | what's better than xterm |
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| 14:17.18 | greymalkin | How do I get dpkg to stop trying to fix a broken upgrade that I fixed manually? Or, where's the FM that tells me? |
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| 14:17.46 | greymalkin | tlx: Define "better" -- less memory, faster, prettier? |
| 14:17.50 | stew | greymalkin: can you show us what you mean? |
| 14:18.14 | tlx | greymalkin: faster! |
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| 14:19.08 | MrMac | hi, i am looking for ncftp >= 3.2.1 for etch. does anybody know where to get it? |
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| 14:19.20 | stew | tlx: rxvt? or urxvt from rxvt-unicode? |
| 14:19.35 | tlx | stew: heh. never heard of that ;) |
| 14:19.55 | tlx | let me google it |
| 14:20.14 | stew | MrMac: any reason you don't just upgrade to lenny, aka stable? |
| 14:20.34 | greymalkin | stew: http://paste.debian.net/plain/33060 |
| 14:20.38 | valdyn | tlx: what's wrong with xterm? |
| 14:21.00 | MrMac | stew: yes, no time to upgrade my root server right now. in case of trouble i have no time to debug, because i am going on holiday tomorrow ;) |
| 14:21.02 | XB23 | apt-get install gnome realvnc |
| 14:21.04 | XB23 | apt-get install gnome realvnc |
| 14:21.10 | XB23 | doing that should work yeh? |
| 14:21.11 | greymalkin | tlx: gnome terminal plays games with the refresh rate depending on speed of output; it's the fastest that I have found, although it's a memory hog. |
| 14:21.28 | stew | greymalkin: you could edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postinst, i suppose |
| 14:21.41 | bolt | tlx: if you don't need unicode support, aterm is also quite fast. that or rxvt |
| 14:21.41 | stew | greymalkin: (to make it succeed) |
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| 14:24.03 | greymalkin | stew: So there's no way to just do something like dpkg --postinst-is-now-done slapd ? |
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| 14:25.19 | greymalkin | tlx: Although I remember finding out that it's a bit different using 'screen' in a terminal -- so my results are anything but conclusive. |
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| 14:26.39 | Cope | i have a 4 disk raid5 mdraid; any idea how i tell which is the spare? |
| 14:27.08 | valdyn | Cope: none is? |
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| 14:27.44 | valdyn | Cope: the 5th disk would be the spare |
| 14:28.08 | stew | Cope: "mdadm -Q --detail /dev/md0" ? |
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| 14:29.56 | tlx | heh. |
| 14:30.27 | Cope | valdyn: right... i had a feeling it was possible to have a 3 disks raid 5 |
| 14:30.31 | Cope | wirh thr 4th as a hot spare |
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| 14:30.42 | Cope | the chap who built the server said that's how he did it |
| 14:30.52 | Cope | mdadm -Q - looking |
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| 14:31.12 | Cope | yeah - no spare devices |
| 14:31.15 | valdyn | Cope: or just "cat /proc/mdstat" |
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| 14:33.55 | Cope | how long should it take to transfer 1.1T of data over a GigE network - locally - through a switch? |
| 14:34.00 | arcnewuss | is there a good tool to monitor network activity |
| 14:34.07 | Cope | ah... maybe the disk speed is the bottleneck? |
| 14:34.07 | valdyn | Cope: we cant know |
| 14:34.17 | valdyn | Cope: ge networks dont have a fixed real world speed |
| 14:34.28 | valdyn | Cope: sure, maybe |
| 14:34.38 | arcnewuss | i share an internet connection on a router and would like to know level of upload/dowload of both parties |
| 14:35.19 | valdyn | arcnewuss: like a few dozen |
| 14:35.51 | valdyn | arcnewuss: current? accumulated? |
| 14:36.04 | arcnewuss | one easy to use with a bash script to make a little app that compute consumption per month |
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| 14:36.35 | valdyn | arcnewuss: does the router even run debian? |
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| 14:36.55 | arcnewuss | no its a cisco router, not sure whats on it |
| 14:37.13 | valdyn | arcnewuss: so first thing you would do is reroute traffic to go through a debian box |
| 14:37.18 | valdyn | arcnewuss: as we cant support cisco |
| 14:37.26 | arcnewuss | of course |
| 14:38.00 | arcnewuss | if my box is connected on router isnt there a way to monitor what goes on the network |
| 14:38.25 | arcnewuss | without rerouting, which i will do if there is no other option |
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| 15:00.50 | bolt | I have a Squeeze machine that runs without a keyboard. I use the synergy client to connect to my other machine's keyboard (also Squeeze). When the client first connects, I can not type norwegian characters. xev doesn't even register the keypresses. Connecting a norwegian keyboard to the machine changes nothing. Typing a key on that keyboard will put the correct character on the screen. If synergy client is restarted after this, norwegian letters wo |
| 15:00.50 | bolt | rk fine. My question is thus, what changes once you start using a plugged in USB keyboard that synergy can read? |
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| 15:06.56 | tlx | squeeze |
| 15:07.06 | tlx | is that what is between lenny and sid? |
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| 15:07.10 | bolt | yeh |
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| 15:09.09 | jetscreamer | squooze (squeeze) |
| 15:09.17 | jetscreamer | i like squooze better |
| 15:09.24 | tlx | i dont like len ny |
| 15:09.40 | tlx | i barely like debian |
| 15:09.44 | jetscreamer | you don't want to upgrade to squeeze atm |
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| 15:10.06 | tlx | just the name. |
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| 15:10.28 | CaT[t2] | jet: squeeze having issues? |
| 15:10.37 | bolt | works fine for me |
| 15:10.39 | bolt | except for this |
| 15:11.09 | jetscreamer | CaT[t2]: i'm not sure how far into squeeze it's filtered, but gnome xorg and kde are borkeded in sid.. i've seen some ppl cry about squeeze also, i think |
| 15:11.30 | CaT[t2] | jet: foo. |
| 15:11.32 | jetscreamer | but some were running mixed systems |
| 15:11.57 | CaT[t2] | jet: i need to pull some xorg stuff from sid for my lenny setup to get a feature back |
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| 15:12.27 | jetscreamer | i'd wait a lot if it was me.. or d/l a nice older one from pdo |
| 15:12.43 | CaT[t2] | jet: pdo? |
| 15:12.48 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 15:12.48 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 15:12.57 | bolt | any ideas on my keyboard issue though? |
| 15:13.04 | jetscreamer | or do a simple sid backport .. 'maybe' |
| 15:13.06 | CaT[t2] | jet: ah |
| 15:13.36 | CaT[t2] | jet: yeah. it's what i did on my 32bit desktop. just moving to 64bit at work so need to recompile |
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| 15:14.22 | jpinx | is there a way to list the pages I have edited in the wiki? |
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| 15:14.49 | jetscreamer | no bolt, no idea, unless it's the keymap as in dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 15:15.02 | jetscreamer | but you said x so i dunno |
| 15:15.28 | bolt | something is definately autodetected once you start typing on a norwegian keyboard |
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| 15:15.57 | bolt | hm.. i'll try rebooting with it plugged in. see if that changes anything |
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| 15:16.13 | arcnewuss | in my gnome 2.24 firefox window handle dont show up??? |
| 15:17.25 | bolt | hm.. xorg is the exact same in stable and testing |
| 15:17.34 | bolt | reboots |
| 15:17.47 | jetscreamer | iceweasel-gnome-support - Support for GNOME in Iceweasel |
| 15:18.02 | jetscreamer | no idea what that does |
| 15:18.24 | jetscreamer | seriously |
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| 15:19.31 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.43 | jetscreamer | ah so that wouldn't help i guess |
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| 15:24.31 | gewt | is spawning 22 mysqld processes normal? |
| 15:25.05 | tlx | damn |
| 15:26.22 | gewt | mysql is broken |
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| 15:29.47 | HardDisk_WP | does anyone know of a simple(!!!!) proxy that just does the following: |
| 15:29.52 | HardDisk_WP | if connection request arrives at localhost:$port, then accept connection and open connection to $remote_machine:$port |
| 15:29.52 | HardDisk_WP | if one side closes the socket, then the proxy shall close the other one as well |
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| 15:32.37 | jhutchins_wk | HardDisk_WP: I think that's how most proxies work. |
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| 15:32.59 | HardDisk_WP | jhutchins, of course, but they all use protocols like socks etc |
| 15:33.08 | HardDisk_WP | i need raw, transparent proxying |
| 15:33.10 | bolt | what's that tool that displays a keyboard on the screen and the keys light up when you type? |
| 15:33.23 | HardDisk_WP | an onscreen keyboard? |
| 15:33.38 | bolt | no, it's used to setup keymaps and stuff |
| 15:33.54 | HardDisk_WP | xmodmap? |
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| 15:34.11 | jpinx | bolt: my bank uses a onscreen keyboard for the password entry, it's written in javascript I believe |
| 15:34.17 | bolt | ... |
| 15:34.36 | jhutchins_wk | jpinx: Is this on a touchscreen? |
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| 15:34.49 | bolt | i don't want an onscreen keyboard. i want the name of the tool that displays keyboard layouts on the screen, allowing you to remap keycodes |
| 15:35.02 | jhutchins_wk | bolt: xmodmap |
| 15:35.07 | jpinx | jhutchins_wk: no - you click the letters with the mouse |
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| 15:35.34 | bolt | jhutchins_wk: xmodmap can load the resulting files from said tool, but it doesn't seem to have the gui part of it |
| 15:35.38 | jpinx | and the keyboard is slightly scrambled to make it less hackable |
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| 15:37.11 | cusco | hi! |
| 15:37.12 | bolt | ah. xkeycaps |
| 15:37.53 | cusco | if we were to find a server running mysql for a few weeks with rpc.mountd and portmap using 100% of the cpu |
| 15:38.03 | cusco | what would you think off? |
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| 15:38.35 | Maior | cusco: I'd {s,l}trace them for a start |
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| 15:39.56 | maunix | hi people. i have a couple of doubts about compiling the kernel. |
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| 15:42.27 | maunix | i downloaded linux-source-2.6.26 , linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64 , linux-headers-2.6.26-1-common and the alsa-drivers source. The question is, do I need to move the headers to somewhere else rather than /usr/src ? |
| 15:43.00 | stew | maunix: how did you download the alsa-drivers source? |
| 15:43.07 | stew | maunix: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:43.48 | stew | maunix: are you compiling the entire kernel? or do you just want a newer alsa version on the current kernel? |
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| 15:44.12 | Alien_Freak | does xorg/gnome etcc work with the freebsd /debian port? |
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| 15:46.02 | maunix | stew do i have to answer here or in private? |
| 15:46.25 | stew | maunix: its best if you answer here so others can help/benefit |
| 15:46.31 | stew | and i could go away at any time |
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| 15:48.06 | bolt | heh. i ended up just saving my current xmodmap after typing a few norwegian characters, and now they work in synergy without the keyboard attached :D |
| 15:48.16 | maunix | stew i downloaded the sources from official debian lenny testing respository. i have an asus board and i cant make the sound chip work. |
| 15:48.39 | stew | maunix: /msg dpkg new alsa |
| 15:48.41 | maunix | stew: then i downloaded the sources and headers for my microprocessor (amd x2) so i donwloaded the source |
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| 15:49.25 | eightyeight | i've looked on google for this, including the debian bugs, to no luck. when i click on a link from an email or some other application, iceweasel moves its current desktop that it's on to the one i'm in clicking the link. this is particularly annoying, as i want iceweasel in a specific desktop all the time. how can i stop this annoying behavior? |
| 15:49.25 | maunix | stew: of kernel, linux 2.6.26.1, the amd64 headesr, and the amd64 common, and the alsa drivers |
| 15:50.05 | bolt | "lenny testing"? |
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| 15:50.05 | KC | eightyeight: I have no idea, but PM me if you figure it out |
| 15:50.05 | stew | maunix: so you compiled your current kernel by hand? this isn't a debian kernel? |
| 15:50.23 | maunix | stew: its a debian kernel, at least i downloaded it from the debian repositorie |
| 15:50.31 | stew | maunix: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:50.37 | stew | maunix: and note that lenny is stable, not testing |
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| 15:50.45 | maunix | stew: 2.6.24.3 |
| 15:50.54 | eightyeight | KC: bothers you too, eh? |
| 15:50.55 | gamescheats | www.pgl-zone.ro |
| 15:50.59 | stew | maunix: then no, that's not a debian kernel |
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| 15:51.08 | maunix | stew: and i want to upgrade to the newer 2.6.26.1 |
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| 15:51.28 | valdyn | maunix: debian has no such kernels |
| 15:51.32 | maunix | stew: i cant rememer but i have this kernel runnign from about more than a year |
| 15:51.55 | maunix | stew: may be trying to make the sound work, i donwloaded a source and compiled it, and that what happens to me |
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| 15:52.33 | bolt | maunix: try a debian standard kernel. the packaged 2.6.26, for instance. they have tons of drivers for various stuff |
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| 15:52.50 | stew | maunix: i'd recommend trying a debian kernel, which you could install with "aptitude install linux-image-2.6-amd64" |
| 15:53.46 | maunix | stew: thanks |
| 15:54.05 | maunix | stew: i did try that before but i couldn't make it to be called by grub. |
| 15:54.16 | maunix | stew: anyway i will try that again |
| 15:54.31 | stew | maunix: what does "grep postinst /etc/kernel-img.conf" return? |
| 15:54.40 | smacnay | now uses debian kernels because they work and they never have a module forgotten to be compiled... |
| 15:55.07 | smacnay | used to hand roll his own but spent too much time and ended up forgetting modules he didn't knew he needed... |
| 15:55.07 | bolt | !cookie smacnay |
| 15:55.10 | dpkg | spins the wheel of knowledge and ponders... ... |
| 15:55.14 | bolt | hm.. |
| 15:55.18 | smacnay | haha |
| 15:55.19 | bolt | no more dpkg-cookies? |
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| 15:55.31 | bolt | it only serves beer now, i guess |
| 15:55.44 | smacnay | bolt: how does one et dpkg to do those things? is it /msg dpkg command? |
| 15:55.45 | maunix | stew: postinst_hook = update-grub |
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| 15:56.00 | stew | maunix: then installing a new kernel *should* configure grub for you |
| 15:56.07 | bolt | smacnay: for instance. msg dpkg help is a good start |
| 15:56.17 | smacnay | maunix: that is a good idea but it usually gets run by the kernel install script. |
| 15:56.28 | smacnay | bolt: that would make too much sense. |
| 15:56.38 | bolt | smacnay: indeed |
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| 15:56.42 | maunix | stew: ok and what about the alsa drivers? |
| 15:56.58 | stew | maunix: it would include alsa |
| 15:57.10 | stew | maunix: what does "cat /proc/asound/version" return now? |
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| 15:58.03 | maunix | stew: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.15 (Tue Nov 20 19:16:42 2007 UTC). |
| 15:58.11 | stew | so this would get you to 1.0.16 |
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| 15:58.34 | stew | if you need 1.0.17, then after you have the newer kernel running: /msg dpkg new alsa |
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| 16:00.00 | smacnay | stew: I tired installing the 2.6.29 kernel with the headers and kbuild but could not build out of tree modules like nvidia nor install the vboxdrv mod. Not sure if there was a glitch with the package or something on my end. No biggie - 2.6.26 runs well for me. |
| 16:00.08 | smacnay | stew: tired/tried |
| 16:00.10 | _coredump_ | hi there, what kernel has squeeze? still the old 2.6.26? |
| 16:00.22 | stew | smacnay: there was a deley in getting the matching linux-kbuild package uploaded |
| 16:00.28 | stew | !kernels |
| 16:00.29 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.29.1, prepatch: 2.6.30-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.30-rc1-git3, 2.4: 2.4.37, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.28-rc2-mm1 |
| 16:00.33 | stew | err, no |
| 16:00.36 | stew | judd: kernels |
| 16:00.37 | judd | stew: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-2~snapshot.12850); sid: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); lenny: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 16:00.39 | stew | _coredump_: ^ |
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| 16:00.48 | smacnay | stew: ah, that would explain it - updated now? |
| 16:00.52 | stew | smacnay: yes |
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| 16:01.03 | stew | smacnay: (and he'd be using 2.6.26 anyway) |
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| 16:01.40 | _coredump_ | thx stew, thats sad to know that testing is still that old. |
| 16:01.41 | smacnay | stew: I really have no *reason* to go up to 2.6.29 - just like to keep more current kernels running for any bug fixes and such. |
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| 16:02.15 | stew | _coredump_: not really |
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| 16:02.53 | _coredump_ | my nic isnt recognized in kernels und .27, so for me its sad when i want do a netinstall. |
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| 16:03.08 | _coredump_ | *under |
| 16:03.17 | smacnay | _coredump_: I find that sticking a few months behind brand new is the best way to not be cursing the screen and spending countless hours googling for bug reports and fixes. |
| 16:03.24 | stew | _coredump_: /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 16:03.29 | Muffin | Hello. Some recent change (dunno how recent, maybe a month or two) to something caused the roundcube package to break. It required that I "sudo pear install MDB2_Driver_mysql" ...dunno how I should report this, but it seems like roundcube is missing a dependency somewhere. |
| 16:03.38 | stew | _coredump_: or help fix the RC bugs that are keeping it out of testing |
| 16:03.48 | smacnay | _coredump_: well, that is a good reason to look for brand new. |
| 16:03.48 | _coredump_ | moths....26 is nearly more than a year old hrhr |
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| 16:04.02 | XB23 | is this high in packets on MTRG |
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| 16:04.03 | XB23 | Exit : 525.7 packet/s |
| 16:04.07 | smacnay | _coredump_: I also apply my theory to buying hardware if I can. |
| 16:04.12 | _coredump_ | smack, ok so i buy a new laptop for 600euros becuas of that...sure not. |
| 16:04.41 | _coredump_ | its 3 months old. |
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| 16:05.03 | smacnay | _coredump_: no, true - I now find that I buy machines (and haven't for some time) that are on their way out of the production cycle or are already obsolete. |
| 16:05.17 | smacnay | _coredump_: they run what I need and cost so much less. |
| 16:05.51 | smacnay | _coredump_: 3 months is actually not that new. But also, if there is a real deal, I would bite. |
| 16:05.58 | stew | _coredump_: well, there is no possible way we could have had a newer kenrel in testing already |
| 16:06.03 | stew | _coredump_: and you can use the kmuto images |
| 16:06.16 | _coredump_ | smack, i dont wanna buy 2 year old hardware just because its old enough that debian runs on it lol |
| 16:06.33 | _coredump_ | thx stew, i will google that |
| 16:06.37 | stew | _coredump_: you don't have to. debian will run on that hardware |
| 16:06.46 | smacnay | _coredump_: hehe - well, I usually do. If it costs the right amount. |
| 16:06.48 | stew | _coredump_: why would you google it instead of just "/msg dpkg kmuto" |
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| 16:08.02 | _coredump_ | stew, thx i will give kmuto a try |
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| 16:09.37 | cusco | Maior: thanks for answering - I will strace them |
| 16:10.07 | cusco | meanwhile, anybody knows what could cause protmap and rcp.mountd to consume 100% cpu? |
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| 16:22.03 | szymon_g | hi |
| 16:22.12 | szymon_g | !libflashplayer64 |
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| 16:22.22 | szymon_g | !flashplayer64 |
| 16:22.34 | szymon_g | what was it? |
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| 16:23.21 | synaptic1 | Anyone have experience with xsane? |
| 16:23.22 | asg | szymon_g: /msg dpkg listkeys <keywords> |
| 16:24.15 | szymon_g | thanx asg |
| 16:25.25 | gewt | i broke mysql :( |
| 16:25.36 | Gnurdux | hey, i recently upgraded my kernel and nwo i have no sound |
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| 16:28.28 | synaptic1 | I'm trying to forward the correct display so I can run applications from command line ( Getting "cannot open display: :0.0" ) and I'm trying to determine what sequence of numbers I need to make it work |
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| 16:28.42 | synaptic1 | Does anyone know where I can find this information? |
| 16:28.53 | gewt | ... |
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| 16:29.04 | gewt | b4@sapphire:~$ /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 16:29.04 | gewt | error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password:YES)' |
| 16:29.06 | synaptic1 | Trying DISPLAY=:0.1, etc. |
| 16:29.09 | gewt | i even reinstalled mysql |
| 16:29.20 | gewt | i had to forcively stop it |
| 16:29.27 | gewt | it spawns like22 processes |
| 16:29.28 | asg | synaptic1: xdpyinfo |
| 16:29.41 | synaptic1 | No protocol specified |
| 16:29.41 | synaptic1 | xdpyinfo: unable to open display ":0.0". |
| 16:29.43 | synaptic1 | Gave me that |
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| 16:29.49 | asg | synaptic1: sorry, misread what you said |
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| 16:30.00 | gewt | is there a way to fix mysql? |
| 16:30.03 | gewt | or did i break it? |
| 16:30.14 | synaptic1 | it's okay, I was a little confused when I wrote that as well =p |
| 16:30.14 | gewt | as i think it's got a memory elak |
| 16:30.32 | gewt | and restarting it is fu |
| 16:30.34 | gewt | and restarting it is fun |
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| 16:30.51 | WormFood | why is my system using swap without all of my ram being used up? |
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| 16:31.02 | gewt | i've all my swap used. |
| 16:31.09 | gewt | because somethiong is leaking |
| 16:31.09 | synaptic1 | That is a good question, built on lowmem? |
| 16:31.15 | unop | gewt, sounds like the 'debian-sys-maint' role has had its privileges revoked |
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| 16:31.20 | topgun17 | System overhead WormFood |
| 16:31.24 | WormFood | I have 4 gig of ram (3 gig visible), and I expect it to not use swap |
| 16:31.24 | n-iCe | Hello, any package to add gadgets to my deskop apt-cache search didn't show results |
| 16:31.29 | gewt | unop, i granted *.* on it |
| 16:31.38 | synaptic1 | asg: any more ideas? |
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| 16:32.24 | evil_andy | I'm having issues setting up cacti. it requires php-mysql and I've installed it (php5-mysql) but when I do php -m it doesn't show up in the list of modules. I'm stuck |
| 16:32.25 | gewt | how do I find what password should be set on it? |
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| 16:32.30 | WormFood | topgun17, how is system overhead going to use swap? |
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| 16:32.43 | pickcoder | WormFood: RAM is used for disk caching often and if your system has a ton of disk I/O that your disks can't keep up with then you will swap |
| 16:32.46 | WormFood | I can understand if all my ram is used up....but why it is using swap at all? |
| 16:32.49 | n-iCe | Hello, any package to add gadgets to my deskop apt-cache search didn't show results |
| 16:32.50 | topgun17 | WormFood: Are you to any graphically intensive work? |
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| 16:33.22 | ranix | tki wo tomare |
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| 16:33.34 | gewt | how do I find what password should be set on debian-sys-maint?? |
| 16:34.01 | WormFood | pickcoder, so you're saying it will use up ram as a disk cache, and not report the ram as being used? |
| 16:34.11 | stew | gewt: you can set any password you want as long as /etc/mysql/debian.cnf matches |
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| 16:34.26 | gewt | k. |
| 16:34.27 | pickcoder | it will show under "cache" |
| 16:34.28 | stew | gewt: (/usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/README.Debian might have more details) |
| 16:34.51 | gewt | is the pass plaintext? |
| 16:34.52 | pickcoder | WormFood: run 'top' and then hit "M" to see top memory usage |
| 16:35.05 | WormFood | pickcoder, I think you're right....I'm looking at the system monitor applet, and it is saying I'm using 664 meg of ram, but df -h say I'm using 2.5 gig |
| 16:35.30 | WormFood | er, I mean free -m says I'm using 2.5 gig |
| 16:35.33 | WormFood | d'oh |
| 16:35.49 | jelly-home | WormFood: df ... showing RAM? |
| 16:36.01 | jelly-home | ah. |
| 16:36.01 | WormFood | jelly-home, yes....ram disk :P |
| 16:36.12 | WormFood | no, of course not....it was a typo : |
| 16:36.13 | WormFood | :P |
| 16:36.13 | pickcoder | WormFood: pastebin your free output if you want someone to decipher it correctly |
| 16:36.29 | asg | synaptic1: sorry, usually DISPLAY=:0.0 foo works just fine provided that :0.0 is the display you need and you have access to do so (i.e., you are the one running the xserver session) |
| 16:36.31 | pickcoder | also top "RSS" memory reporting is misleading due to shared libs |
| 16:36.34 | WormFood | pickcoder, thanks for the offer, but I can handle it myself |
| 16:36.48 | WormFood | 1.75 gig cached |
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| 16:36.54 | synaptic1 | Yes I'm running Lenny on kde4 |
| 16:37.04 | synaptic1 | I used " DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 16:37.06 | WormFood | Lenny runs on KDE? |
| 16:37.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | streps on jetscreamer |
| 16:37.11 | synaptic1 | haha |
| 16:37.18 | synaptic1 | I mean I'm running KDE4 on Lenny : P |
| 16:37.26 | pickcoder | WormFood: what's your I/O load? |
| 16:37.33 | jelly-home | Throat goes well with streps |
| 16:37.36 | asg | feeds CutMeOwnThroat one of his own sausages in a bun |
| 16:37.47 | WormFood | I don't know...right now it is mostly idle |
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| 16:37.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | well |
| 16:37.51 | synaptic1 | but it is still throwing me : Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| 16:37.53 | pickcoder | run vmstat |
| 16:37.56 | WormFood | but a few minutes ago, I was compiling some stuff, and it was hitting the I/O pretty hard ;) |
| 16:37.56 | AJKhan | hi |
| 16:38.07 | pickcoder | ok |
| 16:38.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | the damn bugger highlighted me: * jetscreamer thinks it might be beginning strep throat.. |
| 16:38.15 | AJKhan | hey WormFood |
| 16:38.26 | asg | synaptic1: you might verify your display is actually :0.0 with xdpyinfo |
| 16:38.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | asg, that'll be $2.50, thank you |
| 16:38.41 | WormFood | interesting..vmstat is a new one on me |
| 16:38.45 | gewt | is the pass plaintext? |
| 16:38.49 | WormFood | yes AJKhan? |
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| 16:39.05 | synaptic1 | When I run xdpyinfo I get : No protocol specified |
| 16:39.05 | synaptic1 | xdpyinfo: unable to open display ":0.0". |
| 16:39.13 | AJKhan | WormFoodyou suck |
| 16:39.23 | WormFood | thanks, I'm quite aware of that |
| 16:39.26 | synaptic1 | : ( |
| 16:39.35 | AJKhan | you suck really really a lot |
| 16:39.35 | asg | synaptic1: you aren't root or some other user in the terminal right now are you? |
| 16:39.36 | AJKhan | ;) |
| 16:39.41 | synaptic1 | I'm root |
| 16:39.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | synaptic1, welll, means you're note allowed to connect - you don't have the magic cookie (take a piece of hash, sugar, butter.....) |
| 16:40.05 | ranix | CutMeOwnThroat: we have plenty of hash |
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| 16:40.07 | ranix | # |
| 16:40.09 | synaptic1 | Is there something I can change in .Xathu? |
| 16:40.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | synaptic1, cp ~user_who_is_logged_in/.Xauthority ~ |
| 16:40.17 | pdbogen | Is it possible to map a keycode (that happens to be generated by my mouse) to a mouse button? |
| 16:40.26 | synaptic1 | cp it to where? |
| 16:40.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | synaptic1, ~ |
| 16:40.39 | asg | synaptic1: ~ == your home directory |
| 16:40.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | ranix, mind, that md5 has been broken |
| 16:41.07 | synaptic1 | So to the root home directory then? |
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| 16:41.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | synaptic1, ~user_who_is_logged_in == $HOME of user_who_is_logged_in |
| 16:41.21 | gewt | i grannt all privileges to dbeian-sys-maint... |
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| 16:41.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | synaptic1, yes cp /home/youruser/.Xauthority /root |
| 16:41.46 | synaptic1 | Perfect! |
| 16:41.52 | gewt | set the password according to debain.cnf...use show grants, and it shows a different password, i assume their not plaintext? |
| 16:42.03 | synaptic1 | Thank you asg and Cut MUCH appreciated |
| 16:42.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | synaptic1, but you could have just substituted user_who_is_logged_in with the correct string and seen for yourself |
| 16:42.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 16:42.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | do I get a medal? |
| 16:42.25 | gewt | ah? |
| 16:42.28 | synaptic1 | I was thinking gold star |
| 16:42.28 | gewt | they are hashed |
| 16:42.40 | synaptic1 | : P |
| 16:42.47 | pickcoder | gewt: the default is "password" type data which is MD5 I think |
| 16:42.48 | gewt | now to unhash... |
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| 16:43.25 | gewt | now hwo doI find the plaintext password? |
| 16:43.40 | pickcoder | gewt: I've been through that before and ended up installing an admin tool to fix it |
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| 16:44.01 | anoHito | what if i want to ban an ip range for example 210.83.xx.xx ? |
| 16:44.02 | synaptic1 | I don't suppose you guys have much experience with xsane? |
| 16:44.03 | gewt | pickcoder, i broke phpmyadmin |
| 16:44.16 | anoHito | it should be 210.83.0.0/16 ? |
| 16:44.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | gewt, don't you have the one for the mysql-root user? |
| 16:44.41 | WormFood | anoHito, usually you use syntax like 210.83.0.0/255.255.0.0, or what you just said |
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| 16:44.51 | pickcoder | gewt: there are other tools |
| 16:44.59 | gewt | CutMeOwnThroat, yes |
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| 16:45.13 | anoHito | WormFood, so 210.83.0.0/16 is correct,thanks |
| 16:45.23 | WormFood | I don't know |
| 16:45.28 | pickcoder | mysql-admin is an X app |
| 16:45.31 | WormFood | I'm just saying that is common syntax |
| 16:45.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | gewt, hehe... let me rephrase have you also lost the one for the mysql-root user? |
| 16:45.51 | WormFood | so is entering the netmask like 255.255.0.0 |
| 16:45.59 | gewt | CutMeOwnThroat, no |
| 16:46.03 | gewt | fun |
| 16:46.10 | jcm | hi, upgrading a server from etch to lenny, I get "Got SIGTERM, dying." from aptitude. What can be the reason? |
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| 16:46.20 | gewt | i changed debian.cnf to use root |
| 16:46.21 | gewt | >.> |
| 16:46.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | gewt, then why can't you just set a new password? |
| 16:46.30 | synaptic1 | xsane won't detect my scanner when running xsane directly ( even from root ) but sane-find-scanner does find it |
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| 16:46.36 | gewt | CutMeOwnThroat, i've tried |
| 16:46.44 | gewt | er... |
| 16:46.44 | synaptic1 | and gives me this : found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x4f11 [Officejet 5600 series]) at libusb:002:003 |
| 16:46.50 | gewt | hwo do I do that again? |
| 16:46.57 | pickcoder | gewt: did you issue a flush privs? |
| 16:47.00 | pickcoder | that gets me everytime |
| 16:47.23 | pickcoder | (after changing the pass) |
| 16:47.36 | gewt | i was chnging the pass wrong |
| 16:47.41 | gewt | how do I change the pass? |
| 16:47.55 | pickcoder | mysqladmin |
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| 16:48.57 | n-iCe | Hello, any package to add gadgets to my deskop apt-cache search didn't show results |
| 16:49.04 | pickcoder | mysqladmin -u root password <newpass> |
| 16:49.24 | chordogg | hello. is there an alternate way to scroll the console up besides SHIFT+PageUP? I have a laptop and that key combination doesn't work because I need to use the Fn key for Pageup |
| 16:49.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | gewt, https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=mysql+change+password --- hit 1 ... |
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| 16:49.51 | gewt | thanks D: |
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| 16:50.16 | asg | chordogg: doesn't fn+shift+pgup work? |
| 16:50.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | chordogg, text console, not xterm? |
| 16:50.32 | pdbogen | chordogg: If you run everything in screen, you can use screen's "copy" mode (^A [).. |
| 16:50.43 | pdbogen | chordogg: Alternatively, pipe things to less? |
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| 16:51.06 | chordogg | pdbogen: no, im running a program that prints too much text |
| 16:51.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | chordogg, hmmm, dunno one right now, but I guess you could do less -f /dev/vcs1 from a 2nd console |
| 16:51.11 | chordogg | can't pipe through less |
| 16:51.14 | pdbogen | chordogg: Pipe it to less or run it in screen? |
| 16:51.21 | ranix | ls -hl | less |
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| 16:51.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | chordogg, errr why? |
| 16:51.23 | ranix | I do it all the time |
| 16:51.31 | pdbogen | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm guessing because it requires user input. |
| 16:51.33 | chordogg | because the program needs input |
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| 16:51.59 | pdbogen | chordogg: Run it in screen, or tell me why you think you can't, and I'll explain why you actually can. :) |
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| 16:52.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, valid point :) |
| 16:52.40 | chordogg | pdbogen: the program needs user input so piping it through less wouldn't allow that correct? |
| 16:52.46 | pdbogen | chordogg: screen |
| 16:52.51 | pdbogen | chordogg: Want me to say it again? 'screen' |
| 16:53.09 | chordogg | pdbogen: okay...thanks....didn't see that. impatient? |
| 16:53.28 | deed02392 | hi all, i'm struggling to get ad-hoc working on debian for eeepc, using wpa-supplicant it wouldn't work, using network-manager my wifi interface doesn't show up, nor does it show up to add as a gnome panel, anyone have experience on the subject? |
| 16:53.28 | pdbogen | said it five times. :| |
| 16:53.31 | gewt | k. |
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| 16:53.38 | gewt | i set dbeian.cnf to use root >.> |
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| 16:53.47 | gewt | BUT i made it readable only by it's owner. |
| 16:53.50 | chordogg | pdbogen: i got a bunch of answers from like 4 people, sorry i didn't see that |
| 16:54.08 | gewt | -rwx------ 1 root root 294 2009-04-10 12:52 /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 16:54.17 | gewt | that should work -- right? |
| 16:54.20 | pdbogen | chordogg: You might want to use a more intelligent IRC client; there are several that will highlight lines that contain your name, making it easier to see when people are responding to you. |
| 16:54.26 | rhsanborn | Are there significant benefits with regards to performance in compiling ones own kernel, as opposed to the default kernel with deb? I'm considering it for my laptop... |
| 16:54.35 | deed02392 | can someone lend me a hand before i stick XP on here >_< |
| 16:54.41 | chordogg | pdbogen: any good ones you would suggest? |
| 16:54.58 | ranix | chordogg: use irssi |
| 16:55.01 | pdbogen | chordogg: I personally use irssi- it happens that I run it in screen, as well. |
| 16:55.11 | ranix | chordogg: use irssi and screen for bonus experience |
| 16:55.14 | chordogg | pdbogen: okay :) i'll look into that |
| 16:55.28 | deed02392 | why is wifi so difficult with linux |
| 16:55.35 | pdbogen | deed02392: When you're not trying to do ad-hoc stuff, does the interface show up in network-manager? |
| 16:55.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | gewt, are you running mysql as root?! |
| 16:56.03 | gewt | no |
| 16:56.10 | gewt | it runs as mysql. |
| 16:56.13 | deed02392 | pdbogen, i go to system, preferences, network manager editor and everything is blank |
| 16:56.15 | gewt | the init script is run as root |
| 16:56.23 | deed02392 | before i used wpasupplicant in infrastructure mode on my router and it's fine |
| 16:56.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I don't know if IT has to read it - but it can't |
| 16:56.31 | pdbogen | deed02392: I don't know what "network manager editor" is. Do you have any network-manager tray icon? |
| 16:56.35 | ranix | deed02392: because intellectual property is a fucked up and stupid concept, and there's no documentation, source code, or support for most wireless chipsets |
| 16:56.39 | rhsanborn | deed02392: Wifi is difficult in a lot of cases because of lack of vendor support with regards to drivers. Among other things. |
| 16:56.45 | gewt | CutMeOwnThroat, it works now though |
| 16:56.46 | pdbogen | deed02392: (Are you running in Gnome or KDE?) |
| 16:56.50 | deed02392 | gnome |
| 16:56.54 | topBunny88 | gewt: it is not recommended that you run any program as the superuser |
| 16:56.56 | gewt | if it breaks again i'll fix it |
| 16:56.59 | deed02392 | i have no net manager icon no pdbogen |
| 16:57.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | gewt, yeah - same on my system and I never touched it - it's obviously for the script |
| 16:57.03 | gewt | topBunny88, i rarely do. |
| 16:57.07 | ranix | deed02392: mostly because of bullshit patent and copyright law that allows anti-consumer proprietary technology |
| 16:57.10 | gewt | mysql runs as mysql. |
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| 16:57.20 | deed02392 | lol ok ok guys, i understand |
| 16:57.22 | pdbogen | deed02392: Is the package 'network-managerd-gnome' installed? |
| 16:57.29 | deed02392 | yeah tis pdbogen |
| 16:57.43 | ranix | just use iwconfig and ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:57.51 | ranix | anything else is a waste of your time |
| 16:58.04 | pdbogen | deed02392: If you run 'nm-applet' from a console, either (a) the tray icon should appear, or (b) some informative messages should be printed on the console. Which is it? |
| 16:58.19 | pdbogen | ranix: Good luck using WPA with a highly mobile laptop like that. :P |
| 16:58.42 | deed02392 | authentication rejected pdbogen |
| 16:58.52 | pdbogen | One sec. |
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| 16:59.01 | deed02392 | while connecting to 'session manager' |
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| 16:59.31 | pdbogen | deed02392: If you run 'ps uax | grep -i networkmanager', does it show that network-manager is running? |
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| 16:59.57 | deed02392 | yeah it's running according to ps |
| 17:00.01 | jpinx | is there any way I can tell when a package was last used? |
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| 17:01.02 | pdbogen | jpinx: I believe popularity-contest tracks that information. |
| 17:01.10 | ryanCH | for a network AP monitor, gnome as "nm-applet" .. what does kde use? |
| 17:01.26 | jpinx | pdbogen: ok - thanks for the pointer;) |
| 17:01.43 | deed02392 | pdbogen: it's running as far as ps is concerned |
| 17:01.49 | pdbogen | deed02392: Try /etc/init.d/dbus restart |
| 17:02.31 | deed02392 | ok done that |
| 17:02.38 | pdbogen | Then try running nm-applet again |
| 17:02.46 | deed02392 | also, i exited out of su (since the gnome session is george (doh)) and ran nm-applet |
| 17:02.52 | n-iCe | Hello, any package to add gadgets to my deskop apt-cache search didn't show results |
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| 17:02.56 | deed02392 | error now is unable to locate theme engine in module_path |
| 17:03.07 | pdbogen | n-iCe: Look into 'screenlets'. |
| 17:03.10 | deed02392 | "pixmap" |
| 17:03.12 | kharloss | hi. hi. i guess is an offtopic question but i`ll try : there is any colaborative script doing the following : we are 2 person - a team - who work together for a website , a php based one , but we work on the same project, same sources , and sometimes we don`t know what other do ... we want a script , maibe a GPL script doing this , something with tasks, files modified, etc . any help ? |
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| 17:03.38 | pdbogen | deed02392: Is that an error or "GTK-WARNING"? |
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| 17:03.56 | pdbogen | kharloss: Look into subversion |
| 17:03.56 | n-iCe | pdbogen: thanks |
| 17:03.59 | deed02392 | gtk-warning pdbogen |
| 17:04.09 | Lectus | hey... I'm having problems with sounds and the flash plugin... does anyone know how to solve this? |
| 17:04.11 | rampageoberon | Hi, I'm having a problem with ifconfig in etch. As a user without root privilages ifconfig returns that /proc/net/dev doesn't exist. How can this be fixed? |
| 17:04.12 | pdbogen | kharloss: Or a variety of other revision-tracking systems; CVS, Git, etc. I personally prefer Subversion. Git is quite trendy. |
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| 17:04.57 | pdbogen | deed02392: Ignore it, then. After running nm-applet at the console, did it hang as if it were now running? |
| 17:05.03 | pdbogen | deed02392: Or did it return immediately? |
| 17:05.08 | deed02392 | yeah it did (hang) |
| 17:05.21 | deed02392 | has not detached from console |
| 17:05.22 | pdbogen | Okay. Did the tray icon show up? |
| 17:05.25 | deed02392 | no |
| 17:05.36 | pdbogen | (It doesn't detach by default; you'd need to start it as 'nm-applet &') |
| 17:05.42 | pdbogen | Do you actually have a notification tray on your panel? |
| 17:05.59 | deed02392 | ah i may not.. how can i tell |
| 17:06.07 | pdbogen | shrugs. |
| 17:06.11 | pdbogen | Just try adding a new one, I guess. |
| 17:06.14 | deed02392 | notifiication area |
| 17:06.16 | deed02392 | i just added |
| 17:06.20 | deed02392 | and i see two icons |
| 17:06.33 | pdbogen | Should be one for pidgin and one for network-manager. |
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| 17:07.16 | deed02392 | none for pidgin, both are the same, network-manager, right clickign and choosing edit wireless connections brings me at exactly the same dialogue as system-preferneces-network magner editor |
| 17:07.29 | pdbogen | Ah, heh. Well, ^C out of your console to get rid of one of the pair. |
| 17:07.42 | deed02392 | done |
| 17:07.50 | deed02392 | that same dialogue has nothing on it |
| 17:07.53 | pdbogen | "edit wireless connections" is just to edit connections that network-manager knows about previously. |
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| 17:07.57 | deed02392 | it's just grey everywhere |
| 17:08.01 | deed02392 | ah |
| 17:08.06 | pdbogen | I.e., if you connected to your cousin's wifi, it saves that info, and you can modify it later through edit .. etc. |
| 17:08.14 | chordogg | pdbogen: screen is brilliant, thank you |
| 17:08.19 | deed02392 | so how do i add to it? |
| 17:08.25 | pdbogen | Try left-clicking on the icon (instead of right-clicking), and selecting "Connect to Other Wireless Network" |
| 17:08.29 | pdbogen | chordogg: No problem. |
| 17:08.39 | deed02392 | oh wow |
| 17:08.44 | deed02392 | this looks promising |
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| 17:09.05 | pdbogen | chordogg: My favorite bits are that you can have multiple windows- and that you can detach from a screen, leaving whatever was running still running, and reattach to it later- or even, as I use it, over SSH from a completely different client. |
| 17:09.47 | deed02392 | it came up with a big list of wifi networks... although not my adhoc wifi connection |
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| 17:09.54 | deed02392 | i just tried adding it manually |
| 17:10.12 | deed02392 | it's just attempting to connect, not going anywhere |
| 17:10.24 | deed02392 | it's given up now |
| 17:10.42 | pdbogen | One sec. |
| 17:11.19 | pdbogen | deed02392: Try reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc |
| 17:11.28 | deed02392 | thansk |
| 17:11.29 | deed02392 | wjasdf |
| 17:11.30 | deed02392 | thanks |
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| 17:11.44 | synaptic1 | Okay xsane is driving me INsane |
| 17:12.14 | synaptic1 | It refuses to accept my printer, sane-find-scanner works perfectly and it locates the device, and running as root even it will not detect the printer when starting xsane |
| 17:12.32 | synaptic1 | I'm using an officejet 5600 which does work with xsane |
| 17:12.48 | pdbogen | synaptic1: Can you scan using the console tools, e.g., scanimage? |
| 17:13.05 | pdbogen | deed02392: If you have a card that uses the madwifi drivers, adhoc is much more problematic. :/ |
| 17:13.05 | synaptic1 | Nope |
| 17:13.20 | synaptic1 | It says "No scanners were identified" when running scanimage -L |
| 17:13.23 | deed02392 | yeah |
| 17:13.24 | deed02392 | it's atheros |
| 17:13.26 | neosmatrix_ | hi, someone has a link for for a installer with kernel 2.6.28? I havn't found one yet |
| 17:13.29 | deed02392 | i'm pretty sure it's using madwifi drivers |
| 17:13.38 | pdbogen | synaptic1: What about as root? |
| 17:13.39 | synaptic1 | but sane-find-scanner gives me : found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0 [HP], product=0x4f11 [Officejet 5600 series]) at libusb:002:003 |
| 17:13.46 | pdbogen | deed02392: Yeah. Go look at the 'wlanconfig' section. |
| 17:13.47 | synaptic1 | Yep, I'm running it as root |
| 17:14.07 | synaptic1 | any ideas? |
| 17:14.33 | deed02392 | i am, cheers pdbogen |
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| 17:15.00 | pdbogen | synaptic1: I, unfortunately, don't really recall what I had to do to get sane going on my laptop. :/ |
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| 17:15.14 | synaptic1 | haha.. it's such a stupid problem |
| 17:15.42 | synaptic1 | All I need is to scan a digital copy of my signature to put on a resume..lol |
| 17:15.51 | pdbogen | synaptic1: Have you read /usr/share/doc/sane-utils/README.Debian ? |
| 17:16.02 | synaptic1 | Yeah I've read through all the man pages I can find |
| 17:16.06 | synaptic1 | Guess I could read them again |
| 17:16.23 | pdbogen | Although it seems like that mostly only deals with setting up saned. |
| 17:16.40 | synaptic1 | Thanks for your help anyways |
| 17:17.58 | pdbogen | synaptic1: You might try running 'strace -e trace=file scanimage -L' and inspecting the output carefully for clues. |
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| 17:18.38 | _coredump_ | now i tried kmuto image(i386) and it wont detect any harddrives. i tried vbox, a p4 machine with pata and my notebook with sata :( |
| 17:18.49 | pdbogen | (Particularly, a failure to open /dev/bus/usb/002/003 would be informative) |
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| 17:24.22 | rampageoberon | Hi, I'm having a problem with ifconfig in etch. As a user without root privilages ifconfig returns that "Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (Permission denied). Limited output." How can this be fixed? |
| 17:24.34 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Why do you want to fix it? |
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| 17:25.28 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: i don't understand why a user without root privilages can not view ifconfig. |
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| 17:26.06 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Because /proc/net/dev isn't set a+r; why would you want a non-root user to be able to view ifconfig? |
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| 17:28.00 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: no particular reason, it was allowed with previous releases so not sure why the denial of access |
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| 17:29.16 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: if you could point me to documentation as to why this was put in place that would be good. i'm sure the devs must have had a good reason if this is not a bug |
| 17:30.20 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Do you have SELinux enabled? |
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| 17:31.42 | Behappy | Hello |
| 17:31.57 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: No don't think so. Was reading something about this being a clash with selinux and the newer kernet, but I haven't actively installed selinux and getenforce (which i think is the utility to check the status) is not on the system |
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| 17:32.29 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: What *are* the permissions on /proc/net/dev? (and /proc/net, and /proc/self/net ?) |
| 17:32.31 | Behappy | is it possible to install debian on external USB 2.5 HDD and load it on deffirent PCs ? |
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| 17:32.39 | rampageoberon | ls -l /pr |
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| 17:32.41 | wat | test |
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| 17:32.44 | rampageoberon | oops, sorry |
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| 17:33.46 | egz | i have a number of servers in a cluster. we want to share a simple debian repository via ssh and automatically update the repository |
| 17:33.49 | egz | the problem is authentication |
| 17:34.04 | egz | how do i tell apt what keys to use for the authentication? |
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| 17:34.48 | pdbogen | egz: You might consider ignoring package authentication if security isn't super-high-priority. |
| 17:34.59 | pdbogen | egz: Alternatively, loko at http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:35.18 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: /proc/self/net = 555, /proc/net/dev = 444, /proc/net = 555 |
| 17:35.45 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Does 'cat /proc/net/dev' work as non-root? |
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| 17:35.46 | rampageoberon | using getfacl |
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| 17:35.52 | Behappy | is it possible to install debian on external USB 2.5 HDD and load it on deffirent PCs ? |
| 17:36.14 | egz | pdbogen, unfortunately security is high priority |
| 17:36.17 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: Nope, "No such file or directory" |
| 17:37.04 | pdbogen | Behappy: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
| 17:37.13 | pdbogen | egz: Investigate apt-mirror, then. |
| 17:37.17 | egz | ok |
| 17:37.51 | Behappy | pdbogen: so its possible to boot from deffirent Pc ?? |
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| 17:38.03 | egz | pdbogen, ssh apt repositories work. the problem is it's impossible to do automated updates as there is no documentation of how to select a given key for ssh authentication |
| 17:38.05 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: What, really? "Permission denied" would be more expected. |
| 17:38.23 | pdbogen | egz: Host keys, perhaps? |
| 17:38.25 | thebbxx2000 | how do i change the default desktop background image for all users? |
| 17:38.29 | udoprog | Behappy: as long as those pc |
| 17:38.45 | udoprog | s support booting from usb and has roughly the same arch |
| 17:38.53 | egz | pdbogen, the piece of documentation which is both missing and critical is where the keys have to be for apt to recognize them |
| 17:38.55 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: thats what i thought, so can't figure this out |
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| 17:39.06 | pdbogen | egz: Host-based authentication is on the SSH-level, not the apt-level. |
| 17:39.08 | egz | and it seems from a test i just ran that they have to be named the 'usual', i.e. .ssh/id_rsa |
| 17:39.22 | egz | pdbogen, yeah, this makes sense |
| 17:39.30 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: have a feeling its something to do with the per process symlinks, ut have no idea how to go about understanding it :( |
| 17:39.35 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Put the output of 'strace stat /proc/net/dev' in pastebin, please. |
| 17:39.40 | egz | so apt probably isn't doing *anything* unique wrt. the ssh keys |
| 17:39.51 | pdbogen | egz: Host-based keys wouldn't go in ~/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 17:39.59 | xlotlu_ | can i force dhcpd to clear an existing dns record if it already exists for the new host? |
| 17:40.02 | egz | pdbogen, they're not host-based keys |
| 17:40.09 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: ok doing it now |
| 17:40.10 | egz | it's like there is a common cluster key for a bunch of transient machines |
| 17:40.16 | egz | host-specific keys would be a nightmare |
| 17:40.29 | pdbogen | egz: Wrong direction. |
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| 17:40.36 | pdbogen | egz: You can have a key for the entire system or a key for a user. |
| 17:40.55 | pdbogen | egz: If you can't figure out how to get apt to use a user key, then use a host-key; even if it's all the same cluster key. |
| 17:41.34 | pdbogen | egz: Have you seen http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/513 ? |
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| 17:42.04 | egz | pdbogen, i was at that page |
| 17:42.07 | tlx | ANYBODY remember that service that shows you exactly what wikipedia edits were made by an organizaytion? |
| 17:42.13 | egz | we have some silly key name, and it screwed me up |
| 17:42.18 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: http://www.pastebin.ca/1388162 |
| 17:42.44 | egz | pdbogen, the implication of that page, which i overlooked when reading it, is that naming the keys .ssh/id_rsa, .ssh/id_dsa etc. makes ssh know about them |
| 17:42.55 | egz | this seems to solve the problem i was having |
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| 17:43.16 | pdbogen | egz: Yes. |
| 17:43.33 | egz | pdbogen, so thank you for pointing me at it |
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| 17:44.19 | pdbogen | egz: No problem; sorry I didn't think to ask about the key file names earlier. :P |
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| 17:45.03 | egz | pdbogen, 'proper' key naming is a bit of *nix folklore i forgot about |
| 17:45.03 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Does 'ls /proc/net' as non-root list dev? |
| 17:45.19 | egz | and the people i work with use macs, so they typically aren't exposed to such folklore. thus the odd key names |
| 17:45.48 | pdbogen | egz: You can get around it by setting IdentityFile in ~/.ssh/config or /etc/ssh/ssh_config. |
| 17:45.49 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: ls: reading directory /proc/net/: Invalid argument |
| 17:45.55 | egz | ahhh |
| 17:45.56 | egz | word |
| 17:46.02 | egz | pdbogen, another clear solution |
| 17:46.17 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: strace of 'ls /proc/net' in pastebin, please? |
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| 17:47.09 | pdbogen | egz: I thought originally you were talking about apt's authentication of repository package signatures. |
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| 17:47.31 | egz | pdbogen, no, just login-less runs of ssh-based auth |
| 17:47.32 | pdbogen | egz: Which kind of threw me; hence references to apt-mirror and "ignoring package authentication". |
| 17:47.56 | deed02392 | pdbogen: it works! |
| 17:48.00 | pdbogen | deed02392: Woot. |
| 17:48.05 | deed02392 | had to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc#Example%20Interfaces%20File |
| 17:48.17 | deed02392 | made an sh script just like him and it works 8D |
| 17:48.24 | egz | pdbogen, yup, i completely understand that confusion |
| 17:48.29 | egz | thanks again! |
| 17:48.33 | pdbogen | DeathWolf: Yeah, I have a script that I use to switch to adhoc mode. |
| 17:48.35 | pdbogen | egz: No problem. |
| 17:49.00 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: http://www.pastebin.ca/1388165 |
| 17:50.57 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Very strange. Can you put the uotput of cat /etc/mtab in pastebin? |
| 17:51.48 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: http://www.pastebin.ca/1388170 |
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| 17:52.37 | deed02392 | does anyone know how to get iwconfig running with an ascii key |
| 17:52.58 | deed02392 | iwconfig ath0 key s:5Char |
| 17:52.59 | deed02392 | found it |
| 17:53.04 | thegraham | hey there, i'm running exim4 and sa-exim, and it's started taking an absolute age to scan messages. any suggestions where i should start trying to fix it? 2009-04-10 18:49:28 1LsKqL-0007Dx-Vr SA: Action: permanently rejected message: score=14.5 required=3.0 trigger=5.0 (scanned in 42/42 secs |
| 17:53.24 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Is this some sort of virtualized server, by chance? |
| 17:53.50 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: No its supposed to be a dedicated server (renting it) |
| 17:53.54 | pdbogen | thegraham: Try temporarily disabling spamassassin's online scans? |
| 17:54.24 | thegraham | pdbogen: but I want it to scan my email! when I turn it off, it doesn't scan anything... |
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| 17:54.36 | simonrvn | thegraham: curious, what version is that? |
| 17:54.43 | simonrvn | thegraham: for sa-exim |
| 17:54.53 | pdbogen | thegraham: No, just disable the online tests. |
| 17:55.03 | thegraham | pdbogen: how do I do that? |
| 17:55.05 | pdbogen | thegraham: As a troubleshooting step to see if they're what's causing spamassassin to take a while. |
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| 17:55.44 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: Have you dist-upgraded recently? |
| 17:56.35 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: No haven't done that |
| 17:56.51 | thegraham | simonrvn: 4.2.1-11 |
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| 17:57.03 | simonrvn | thegraham: thanks |
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| 17:57.17 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: There's some indication that problem might be caused by out-of-date userspace, but it's fairly hard for me to imagine commands like 'ls' being so out of date. Just as a test, though, you might try upgrading coreutils, if there's a newer package available. |
| 17:57.31 | pdbogen | thegraham: I don't know how to do it with sa-exim. |
| 17:57.38 | pdbogen | thegraham: Maybe ask in #exim? |
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| 17:59.08 | jpinx | anyone know why apache2 is listed by popularity-contest as unused, but it actually running? |
| 17:59.25 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: the version i have of coreutils is 5.97-5.3 |
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| 17:59.35 | pdbogen | jpinx: Likely because you never run the userspace utils. |
| 18:00.01 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: 6.10-6 is what I have on Squeeze, but, like I said, it's hard to imagine that being the problem. What kernel version and strace version are you using? |
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| 18:00.09 | jpinx | pdbogen: what will make it appear as "used" then? |
| 18:00.28 | pdbogen | jpinx: My understanding is that running userspace utils makes it "used," but I don't know a lot about popcon. |
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| 18:01.20 | jpinx | pdbogen: ok thanks - I'll mess around with it a bit more. |
| 18:01.31 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: kernel is 2.6.27.10 and strace 4.5.14-2 |
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| 18:02.55 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: I really don't know what to recommend. If it were my server, I'd probably want to do a fresh install of Debian and see if the problems persist. The best clue I've found is that you're working inside of a virtual server, but I wouldn't consider the evidence strong enough to accuse your hosting service of malfeasance. |
| 18:03.38 | Alien_Freak | will the debian port to the freeBSD kernel essentially have apt-get and usual debian tools available? |
| 18:04.04 | pdbogen | Alien_Freak: I think so- otherwise it wouldn't be Debian, neh? |
| 18:04.22 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: okay I'll try with a fresh install and see what happens and also consider upgrading to lenny. Thank you very much for all the help :) |
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| 18:04.34 | pdbogen | rampageoberon: You should almost certainly upgrade to lenny. |
| 18:04.49 | Alien_Freak | cool.. installing it now.. assuming it works |
| 18:05.01 | rampageoberon | pdbogen: okay, thanks :) |
| 18:05.47 | deed02392 | pdbogen, this setup works so well, i'm very pleased ;D |
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| 18:08.10 | stew | Alien_Freak: yes, it should be just like debian gnu/linux but with a different kernel |
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| 18:08.27 | stew | Alien_Freak: i don't konw how complete the available packages are yet, as many are still being built aiui |
| 18:08.55 | Alien_Freak | oh yeah, I'm sure... |
| 18:09.01 | Alien_Freak | this is pretty cool though... |
| 18:09.19 | swordz | Hi, I've got a server with Debian installed. However, when I installed it I accidentally installed the desktop |
| 18:09.25 | swordz | How do I uninstall it? |
| 18:09.44 | jelly-home | too bad it uses a different libc than freebsd, though |
| 18:09.49 | Alien_Freak | do you know if ZFS will be available under debina/freebsd |
| 18:09.51 | swordz | I'm able to log in remotely, so don't need it |
| 18:10.19 | pdbogen | Alien_Freak: It's kernel-level, so I imagine it would be. I'd be interested to hear if you find out for sure, though, as it's one of the reasons I'm considering given it a try. |
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| 18:11.08 | Alien_Freak | it's the main reason for me... a not so retarded OS (sorry to OpenSolaris / FreeBSD fans) with all the goodies of freeBSD ie. ipfw and ZFS |
| 18:12.01 | Alien_Freak | I probably should go through the process of setting up ZFS on FreeBSD before trying to make it work on debian.. |
| 18:13.50 | pdbogen | Alien_Freak: FreeBSD is actually pretty nice. |
| 18:13.55 | pdbogen | Alien_Freak: But it's not very agile. |
| 18:14.25 | topgun20 | l |
| 18:14.42 | Alien_Freak | well.. I have more issues with solaris then FreeBSD |
| 18:14.50 | Alien_Freak | the enitre BSD line has some pretty slick stuff |
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| 18:15.30 | jelly-home | solaris has awesome backward compatibility and very nice manuals. |
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| 18:16.55 | swordz | Can anyone help me uninstall the debian desktop? |
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| 18:17.52 | pdbogen | swordz: One sec. |
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| 18:20.41 | smacnay | IS there a good subtitle creator in the deb repository? |
| 18:21.00 | pdbogen | swordz: What is the output of 'dpkg -l \*desktop\* | grep ^ii' ? |
| 18:21.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | swordz, guess you can just call aptitude and look under "x11" |
| 18:21.32 | pdbogen | smacnay: Do you mean you want to extract subtitles from video files, or create subtitles by hand? |
| 18:22.04 | swordz | pdbogen I get a > |
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| 18:22.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | swordz, remove the trailing ' |
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| 18:22.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | the quotes are not part of it :) |
| 18:22.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
| 18:23.11 | stew | swordz: 'tasksel remove desktop' |
| 18:23.24 | swordz | pdbogen -bash: *desktop*: command not found |
| 18:23.38 | pdbogen | swordz: You didn't type it correctly... |
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| 18:23.45 | pdbogen | swordz: dpkg -l \*desktop\* | grep ^ii |
| 18:23.48 | eps__ | is there a viable way to install nvidia drivers against 2.6.29 without compiling my own kernel? m-a and their way don't work |
| 18:23.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess aptitude remove x-window-system-core kde-core gnome-core should pretty much cover it..... well, or probably what stew said :) |
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| 18:23.59 | pdbogen | eps__: What is m-a doing wrong? |
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| 18:24.11 | smacnay | pdbogen: I want to add subtitles to a home movie by hand. |
| 18:24.22 | pdbogen | smacnay: Look into subtitleeditor, I guess. |
| 18:24.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | dammit, I don't even *have* tasksel |
| 18:24.27 | swordz | pdbogen: sorry, give me a sec to pastesite now I've done it correctly... |
| 18:24.32 | RUMMY | I need reset root password in debian find that solutions http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/root.htm but what I need to do with shadow file? |
| 18:24.34 | smacnay | pdbogen: I tired gnome-subtitles but it crashes a lot. |
| 18:24.35 | eps__ | pdbogen: I get a compile error, no specific warning (screen size cuts off most of it) but the affected file is nv.ko |
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| 18:25.01 | stew | swordz: "tasksel remove desktop" desktop isn't a package, it is a task. he has you looking for a non-existant package |
| 18:25.13 | swordz | http://pastesite.com/6334 |
| 18:25.14 | pdbogen | eps__: You might check the BTS and see if there's a bug report about it.. If I were you, I'd just grumble and wait for the m-a folks to catch up, really. |
| 18:25.41 | pdbogen | stew: In fact, I have him looking for the pckage that tasksel installs when you install "desktop," and I intended to have him remove that package and then use apt-get autoremove to clean up the mess. |
| 18:25.44 | eps__ | pdbogen: yeah I've looked around for fixes, there are several bugs out against it and nvidia, and linux-headers |
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| 18:25.49 | jpinx | I am trying to make dpkg -l | sort "by atime" work but I can't find the option in man sort. anyone able to point me please? |
| 18:25.56 | eps__ | guess it is back to 2.6.27 for me :( |
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| 18:25.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | RUMMY, what the file tells you to? |
| 18:26.00 | pdbogen | jpinx: Sort doesn't work that way. |
| 18:26.03 | stew | pdbogen: tasksel --task-packages desktop |
| 18:26.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | RUMMY, I mean what the webpage tells you to do |
| 18:26.22 | stew | pdbogen: or aptitude search '~i~tdesktop' |
| 18:26.24 | swordz | pdbogen: so apt-get remove gnome-desktop-environment |
| 18:26.45 | pdbogen | swordz: That's what I'd do, but you should try stew's suggestion first. |
| 18:26.59 | stew | swordz: do you want to remove all of the desktop, or just gnome? |
| 18:27.04 | stew | swordz: do you want an x server? |
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| 18:27.13 | chovy | how do I install arial.ttf on debian? |
| 18:27.15 | RUMMY | I don't know how can I reset root password |
| 18:27.26 | swordz | My server doesn't have, and isn't going to have, a monitor |
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| 18:27.37 | swordz | I'm going to exclusively connect remotly via ssh |
| 18:27.38 | eps__ | chovy: why do you wish to do that? |
| 18:27.49 | pdbogen | chovy: I believe it's in msttcorefonts. |
| 18:27.59 | eps__ | it used to be aptitude install msttcorefonts but it might be different now as that package is obsolete |
| 18:28.01 | chovy | eps__: my flex app won't compile w/o arial.ttf |
| 18:28.13 | pdbogen | ttf-mscorefonts-installer is the new way to do it. |
| 18:28.19 | eps__ | ^^ there we go |
| 18:28.32 | eps__ | because we needed to make it more complicated ;) |
| 18:28.48 | pdbogen | eps__: Well, you can now install ttf-.* and get closer to getting all the fonts. |
| 18:28.58 | chovy | don't see that pkg on deb 4 |
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| 18:29.07 | eps__ | pdbogen: oh that does make sense, pervious comment withdrawn then |
| 18:29.09 | pdbogen | chovy: Try msttcorefonts, then. |
| 18:29.25 | ranix | pervious comments are usually withdrawn |
| 18:29.33 | ranix | impervious comments, not so often |
| 18:29.53 | eps__ | hurr :P |
| 18:30.18 | eps__ | when will nouveau be useful for 3d... can't wait to dump nvidia's closed source nonsense |
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| 18:31.01 | tuantub | chovy: you can put your ttf file in ~/.fonts and then run : mkfontdir ~/.fonts && fc-cache -v to take effect |
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| 18:36.52 | tuantub | he he |
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| 18:46.30 | chovy | tuantub: this is part of a build process for an app...I'm surprised there's no apt pkg to install a bunch of fonts, like arial, helvetics, etc. |
| 18:46.47 | wat_ | i havent used linux in a while, if i wanted to mount /dev/sdg, how would i do so? |
| 18:47.40 | pdbogen | chovy: There is... |
| 18:47.41 | macman_ | was on /dev/sdg ? |
| 18:47.42 | pdbogen | chovy: msttcorefonts.. |
| 18:47.53 | macman_ | wat_--- whats on /dev/sdg ? |
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| 18:48.16 | SQlvpapir | I just realized.. with a 1280x1024 external monitor and 1280x800 on my laptop there is no way I can have it _not_ clone the screens with a maximum resolution of 2048x2048 ? |
| 18:48.20 | pdbogen | wat_: E.g., to mount /dev/sdg on /mnt/blah, you'd do, as root, 'mount /dev/sdg /mnt/blah' |
| 18:48.33 | macman_ | wat_--- is it a file system ? |
| 18:48.36 | pdbogen | wat_: But more likely, you want to mount, e.g., the first partition of /dev/sdg, do it'd actually be 'mount /dev/sdg1 /mnt/blah' |
| 18:48.39 | wat_ | well linux doesnt recognize my external hard drive but it works fine in windows |
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| 18:48.53 | macman_ | wat_--- what is it an external ? |
| 18:48.59 | pdbogen | wat_: Does it show up at the end of 'dmesg|tail' when you connect it? (Well, a few seconds after you connect it.) |
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| 18:49.23 | tuantub | chovy: if it's a part of a build process for an app... then some errors output may give useful informations |
| 18:49.33 | macman_ | wat_--- what does fdisk -l show .. you should see /dev/sdg |
| 18:49.38 | wat_ | i know to mount it you would use mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg /media/external but i have to make a directory on the drive to get it to show up, correct? |
| 18:49.51 | wat_ | yes macman_ fdisk -l shows /dev/sdg |
| 18:49.55 | SQlvpapir | sudo mkdir /media/external |
| 18:50.17 | SQlvpapir | assuming you have no user with right to make dirs in media and you have sudo rights |
| 18:50.18 | macman_ | you have to make a directory somewhere wat_ |
| 18:50.21 | wat_ | mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/external': File exists |
| 18:50.31 | macman_ | wat_--- do another directory |
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| 18:50.39 | macman_ | sudo /media/externaldrive |
| 18:50.50 | macman_ | err |
| 18:50.53 | macman_ | sudo mkdir /media/externaldrive |
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| 18:51.07 | wat_ | now what? |
| 18:51.09 | macman_ | mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg /media/externaldrive |
| 18:51.49 | wat_ | why does debian use iceweasel? |
| 18:51.53 | jpinx | macman_: he'll need ntfs-3g or similar to mount it rw |
| 18:51.57 | macman_ | yea |
| 18:52.01 | dacs | !dmm |
| 18:52.01 | dpkg | i heard dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 18:52.18 | jpinx | !why iceweasel |
| 18:52.18 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 18:52.18 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8634 |
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| 18:52.33 | macman_ | sudp apt-get install ntfs-3g ; sudo mkdir /media/externaldrive ; sudo ount -t ntfs /dev/sdg /media/externaldrive |
| 18:52.37 | macman_ | that to big ? |
| 18:52.55 | wat_ | sudo ount lol |
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| 18:52.59 | macman_ | lol |
| 18:53.14 | jpinx | mount -t ntfs-3g |
| 18:53.34 | wat_ | nothing |
| 18:53.43 | macman_ | huh |
| 18:53.54 | macman_ | wat_--- sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ? |
| 18:54.17 | wat_ | oh |
| 18:54.37 | wat_ | ok i ran mount -t ntfs-3g whats that supposed to do? |
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| 18:55.27 | wat_ | im still getting that same error messager |
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| 18:55.30 | wat_ | message* |
| 18:55.35 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8634 |
| 18:55.50 | T-u-N-i-X | hey there... can someone please tell me where i can find crontab logs for debian lenny? my crontab doesn't work and i don't know why.... |
| 18:56.25 | macman_ | wat_--- type fdisk -l |
| 18:56.29 | macman_ | what do you see for /dev/sdg |
| 18:56.29 | dacs | how do i get debian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 18:57.21 | macman_ | wat_--- you should see something like this /dev/sdb1 1 20023 160834716 7 HPFS/NT |
| 18:57.25 | alemani | dacs: apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 18:57.58 | jpinx | dacs: aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 18:58.02 | macman_ | wat_--- we are trying to find out what FS you are using .. seems like it isn't NTFS |
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| 18:58.07 | wat_ | weird |
| 18:58.10 | jpinx | Ooops ;) alemani |
| 18:58.14 | wat_ | i have /dev/sdg and /dev/sdg1 |
| 18:58.28 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8636 |
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| 18:59.15 | jpinx | wat_: do sudo fdisk -l and paste it please |
| 18:59.18 | alemani | jpinx: :) it's ok |
| 18:59.35 | macman_ | wat_--- paste the whole thing |
| 18:59.40 | dacs | jpinx: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "debian-multimedia-keyring" |
| 18:59.41 | wat_ | oh ok |
| 18:59.58 | wat_ | couldnt i add /dev/sdg to my fstab? |
| 19:00.04 | tuantub | wat_: try : mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 /media/externaldrive |
| 19:00.10 | macman_ | yea wat_ we are trying to find out your FS |
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| 19:00.20 | wat_ | oh i can paste that for you lol |
| 19:00.38 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8638 |
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| 19:00.42 | myeggo | this may be off topic, but i dont know where can i ask, someone know a website where i can place my files temporarily? same as imageshack, with account (not megaupload or mybloop) |
| 19:00.54 | tuantub | wat_: try : mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 /media/externaldrive |
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| 19:00.59 | macman_ | huh |
| 19:01.12 | macman_ | you have /dev/sdg1 set to boot |
| 19:01.16 | macman_ | ftw |
| 19:01.25 | wat_ | debian:/home/hello# mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 /media/externaldrive |
| 19:01.25 | wat_ | debian:/home/hello# |
| 19:01.27 | jpinx | wat_: do the whole command please it is " sudo fdisk -l " |
| 19:01.29 | ranix | to see debian-multimedia-keyring you must add the multimedia repository to /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update |
| 19:01.30 | flashblind | is ther a command line mail client lik pine |
| 19:01.32 | pdbogen | myeggo: http://www.senduit.com/ ? |
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| 19:01.36 | wat_ | jpinx im running a root terminal |
| 19:01.36 | pdbogen | flashblind: mutt |
| 19:01.46 | ranix | debian-multimedia-keyring is actually ON debian-multimedia |
| 19:01.49 | dacs | i put deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main in my sources.list and still am not able to get it |
| 19:01.58 | ranix | apt-get update |
| 19:02.02 | myeggo | pdbogen: is enough to what i want, thankyou so much! |
| 19:02.04 | tuantub | wat_: now you should have your partition mounted on /media/externaldrive |
| 19:02.05 | jpinx | wat_: do then the whole command please it is " fdisk -l " |
| 19:02.08 | stew | is etch still supported? |
| 19:02.15 | stew | (by marillat) |
| 19:02.15 | ranix | yes |
| 19:02.15 | pdbogen | ~etch |
| 19:02.16 | apt | from memory, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 19:02.16 | wat_ | jpinx I DID |
| 19:02.24 | pdbogen | Out of date. :( |
| 19:02.31 | stew | yeah, apt is horribly out of date |
| 19:02.41 | ranix | !etch |
| 19:02.41 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support will continue until about February 2010; now is the time to start planning your upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Also ask me about <oldstable>, <oldstable security>, <install etch>, <etch release notes>. Currently <4.0r7>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch |
| 19:02.45 | jpinx | wat_: i see in your paste that you did fdisk not fdisk -l |
| 19:02.51 | wat_ | what? |
| 19:02.53 | ranix | ~start an editor war |
| 19:02.54 | apt | ACTION gets an editor war started |
| 19:02.55 | pdbogen | apt, listen to dpkg |
| 19:02.56 | pdbogen | :( |
| 19:03.02 | dacs | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 19:03.12 | dacs | how can i fix that |
| 19:03.21 | wat_ | jpinx |
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| 19:03.31 | wat_ | i just put fdisk so you know that was my fdisk -l output lool |
| 19:03.32 | pdbogen | dacs: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907 && gpg --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 19:03.32 | wat_ | lol* |
| 19:03.46 | pdbogen | dacs: Or apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 19:04.34 | ranix | I'm sad to see the apt bot defunct |
| 19:04.34 | ranix | apt ist mein boten anna |
| 19:04.38 | dacs | pdbogen: i got that error when i tried to install debian-multimedia |
| 19:04.40 | macman_ | wat_--- type sudo mount and paste it in pastbin |
| 19:04.48 | macman_ | wat_--- sudo mount |
| 19:04.49 | jpinx | wat_: ok did you create a mount point? |
| 19:04.50 | pdbogen | dacs: It's a warning, not an error. |
| 19:04.51 | wat_ | sure |
| 19:05.00 | chovy | tuantub: it is tellling me I need font Arial |
| 19:05.14 | chovy | pdbogen: msttcorefonts appears to require openoffice be installed. |
| 19:05.34 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8640 |
| 19:05.46 | flashblind | Are there any how tos that discribe how to configure muut to use a imap server? |
| 19:05.52 | macman_ | wat_--- your are mounted already |
| 19:05.53 | bpun | chovy, openoffice.org is the name of the package that should instlal the whole suite |
| 19:06.02 | macman_ | wat_--- type cd /media/externaldrive |
| 19:06.06 | dacs | pdbogen: no luck still |
| 19:06.08 | pdbogen | chovy: That is most certainly not the case. |
| 19:06.28 | pdbogen | flashblind: http://www.google.com/search?q=mutt+imap |
| 19:06.40 | jpinx | macman_: he's all yours;) |
| 19:06.43 | wat_ | macman_ it doesnt appear in my device listings |
| 19:06.47 | macman_ | lol |
| 19:06.56 | wat_ | under computer* |
| 19:07.04 | macman_ | wat_--- type cd /media |
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| 19:07.05 | chovy | Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:07.05 | tuantub | wat_: type : nautilus /media/externaldrive |
| 19:07.23 | wat_ | heres hoping this works |
| 19:07.26 | wat_ | thanks |
| 19:08.18 | macman_ | lol |
| 19:08.28 | macman_ | wat_--- if it opens it means you mounted it already |
| 19:09.02 | wat_ | when i move files to rhythmbox i get import errors, couldn't access file:///media/externaldrive/shoutcast/(file names here) |
| 19:09.04 | tuantub | chovy: i think you should try to copy Arial.ttf to one of the folders in fontspath and run fc-cache to update you fonts database before trying to build your app... |
| 19:09.12 | bpun | dacs, debian multimedia works? |
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| 19:10.15 | macman_ | sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg /media/externaldrive < -- this worked |
| 19:10.16 | tuantub | wat_: try to unmount and re-mount the sdg1 |
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| 19:10.39 | wat_ | tuantub what would the commands be? |
| 19:10.43 | macman_ | wat_--- umount /dev/sdg1 |
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| 19:10.46 | wat_ | sorry i havent used linux in a while |
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| 19:11.04 | macman_ | wat_--- sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /media/extenraldrive |
| 19:11.11 | wat_ | mount: can't find /dev/sdg1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 19:11.16 | macman_ | wat_--- he is trying to make sure your mounting works |
| 19:11.19 | dacs | got it to work |
| 19:11.20 | wat_ | shouldnt i put the device infstab? |
| 19:11.35 | macman_ | wat_--- only if you want it to boot |
| 19:11.35 | wat_ | ntfs-3g-mount: failed to access mountpoint /media/extenraldrive: No such file or directory |
| 19:11.43 | dacs | and now i installed avidemux but i can't find it in gnome desktop or menus |
| 19:11.48 | wat_ | extenral lol |
| 19:12.10 | macman_ | wat_--- sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdg1 /media/extenraldrive |
| 19:12.11 | tuantub | wat_: umount /dev/sdg1 && mount -t ntfs -o rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /mediaexternaldrive |
| 19:12.13 | wat_ | yep it mounted |
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| 19:12.22 | macman_ | thanks tuantub i gotta go back to work |
| 19:12.38 | wat_ | thanks macman_ |
| 19:12.42 | macman_ | yep |
| 19:12.43 | tuantub | macman_: :D |
| 19:12.45 | wat_ | now what tuantub |
| 19:13.05 | tuantub | wat_: have you umounted /dev/sdg1 ? |
| 19:13.10 | wat_ | hold on |
| 19:13.16 | bpun | dacs, should be |
| 19:13.28 | wat_ | unmount command not found :( |
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| 19:13.40 | bpun | wat_, unmount doesnt exist |
| 19:13.40 | dacs | bpun: yeah i can't find it mate |
| 19:13.43 | wat_ | oh |
| 19:13.44 | Kobaz | unzip MasterList.new.zip skipped: need PK compat. v4.5 (can do v2.1) |
| 19:13.47 | macman_ | wat_--- umount |
| 19:13.50 | jpinx | wat_: umount |
| 19:13.52 | bpun | dacs, sound&video has it for me |
| 19:13.54 | Kobaz | what package would i need to unzip a v4.5 zip file |
| 19:14.00 | macman_ | oops |
| 19:14.00 | tuantub | wat_: sudo umount /dev/sdg1 |
| 19:14.03 | bpun | dacs, show me ur sources.list |
| 19:14.07 | wat_ | umount: /dev/sdg1: not mounted |
| 19:14.09 | bpun | dacs, did u install that deb file? |
| 19:14.13 | dacs | bpun: not for me thu |
| 19:14.22 | bpun | dacs, not for u what? |
| 19:14.29 | tuantub | wat_: mount -t ntfs -o rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /mediaexternaldrive |
| 19:14.32 | dacs | bpun: i don't see it there |
| 19:14.39 | bpun | dacs, "it" |
| 19:14.40 | bpun | ? |
| 19:14.45 | bpun | dacs, be clear man |
| 19:15.04 | stew | dacs: why are you still running etch? |
| 19:15.14 | wat_ | tuantub http://fpaste.org/paste/8642 |
| 19:15.20 | dacs | stew: no am not i am in lenny |
| 19:15.30 | dacs | bpun: "avidemux" |
| 19:15.32 | stew | dacs: for people wanting desktop and multimedia related stuff, we'd especially recommen upgrading at least to stable |
| 19:15.41 | macman_ | wat_--- typo |
| 19:15.43 | stew | dacs: oh, then why are you using "http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" |
| 19:15.55 | macman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.57 | wat_ | macman_ i dont know what the typo is lol |
| 19:15.58 | wat_ | oh |
| 19:16.03 | macman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.03 | tuantub | wat_: mount -t ntfs -o rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /dev/sdg1 /mediaexternaldrive |
| 19:16.08 | tuantub | wat_: sorry :P |
| 19:16.13 | wat_ | mount -t ntfs -o rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /dev/sdg1 /mediaexternaldrive |
| 19:16.15 | wat_ | whoops |
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| 19:16.20 | wat_ | mount: mount point /mediaexternaldrive does not exist |
| 19:16.30 | macman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.31 | tuantub | wat_: mount -t ntfs -o rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 /dev/sdg1 /media/externaldrive |
| 19:16.40 | dacs | stew: wait a sec .... i am ! |
| 19:16.41 | dacs | err |
| 19:16.43 | wat_ | thanks |
| 19:17.03 | tuantub | wat_: just forgot one slash :D |
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| 19:18.02 | wat_ | yay i can listen to music now |
| 19:18.04 | tuantub | wat_: now check if you have access to the /media/externaldrive folder ? |
| 19:18.08 | dacs | stew: thank you for pointing that out, i grabed the wrong link |
| 19:18.10 | dacs | :( |
| 19:18.16 | wat_ | hmm, debian's volume is really low |
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| 19:18.28 | macman_ | wat_--- fstab it now |
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| 19:18.35 | macman_ | wat_--- install vlc |
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| 19:18.46 | wat_ | test |
| 19:18.49 | wat_ | ok |
| 19:19.16 | bpun | thinks wat is testing our patience |
| 19:20.35 | macman_ | wat_--- vlc is very nice |
| 19:20.59 | macman_ | can you can turn the volume up very loud and then turn up your computer volume |
| 19:21.14 | dustybin | do you need to restart a debian box after you have changed the hostname? |
| 19:21.29 | bpun | wat_, if u need codecs u can test apple's trailer site.. and try to have codecs auto install from there |
| 19:21.40 | wat_ | yes but even with the volume control set all the way up my computer speakers are set past half way to full volume and its still kinda quiet whereas on on windows i usually keep it at a quarter volume and it is fine |
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| 19:22.50 | bpun | wat_, open the volume control panel and see if pcm and master control are both configured to higher level |
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| 19:22.54 | macman_ | hmm.. |
| 19:22.57 | wat_ | sure thing bpun |
| 19:22.58 | macman_ | alsamixer ? |
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| 19:23.32 | macman_ | anyways .. if i have libdvdccs and libdvdnav etc .. do you think i can do a dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/bolt.iso ? |
| 19:23.44 | bpun | wat_, if u put pcm all the way up u might here stutters often .. so find out a good max volume for it.. |
| 19:23.57 | bolt | doesn't want to be an iso |
| 19:24.06 | macman_ | lol |
| 19:24.55 | bpun | dacs, u can use k3b.. but i think that requires kde base libraries.. |
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| 19:26.00 | dacs | bpun: i heared good stuff about k3b, but i don't know how to use it with gnome |
| 19:26.04 | bpun | dacs, apt-cache search gnome burn, or apt-cache search gnome|grep -i burn |
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| 19:26.30 | macman_ | k3b rocks |
| 19:26.36 | bpun | dacs, i just found nautilus-cd-burn |
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| 19:26.47 | bpun | dacs, but i never used it.. |
| 19:27.05 | dacs | bpun: i also heard of gnomebaker or something like that |
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| 19:27.25 | bpun | dacs, just use apt-cache show... it's there as well... |
| 19:27.31 | bpun | dacs, whatever works |
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| 19:27.49 | stew | dacs: i believe brasero is the recommended gnome tool these days |
| 19:28.03 | dacs | stew: what you use? |
| 19:28.07 | stew | dacs: wodim |
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| 19:28.29 | dacs | stew: is it easy to burn cds and dvds with |
| 19:28.38 | stew | dacs: "wodim /path/to/iso" |
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| 19:28.49 | mar0wanna | hey guys, how do i restore a pid |
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| 19:29.15 | antii | I just installed debian, without desktop environment, what gnome shall I choose? |
| 19:29.22 | antii | for minimal |
| 19:29.22 | macman_ | stew--- wodim .. is that for dvd ? |
| 19:29.54 | stew | macman_: apt-cache show wodim |
| 19:30.03 | macman_ | yea i have it installed |
| 19:30.04 | wat_ | a bird hit my window its going to die :( |
| 19:30.05 | macman_ | let me look |
| 19:30.11 | mar0wanna | i know the pid # i just need to restore it, |
| 19:30.11 | stew | antii: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 19:30.42 | macman_ | nice |
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| 19:31.18 | superdug | can someone help me find the equivalent to rpm -Uvh package.rpm for dpkg ? |
| 19:31.21 | bpun | antii, gnome-desktop-environment |
| 19:31.26 | antii | bpun: I took gnome-core :$ |
| 19:31.37 | stew | superdug: what exactly does "rpm -Uvh package.rpm" do? |
| 19:31.44 | bpun | antii, never used apt-get before? |
| 19:31.51 | koalallama | installs/upgrades |
| 19:31.53 | unop | superdug, dpkg -i package.deb |
| 19:31.56 | koalallama | I think he's looking for dpkg -i |
| 19:31.59 | antii | bpun: yes i have, why? :s |
| 19:32.03 | bpun | superdug, check out debian's quick ref manual online... |
| 19:32.19 | htmlol | I'm looking at top and other resource viewers, and they all show my CPU usage as 50% or over; however, none of the processes are taking up much at all. what's going on? |
| 19:32.40 | bpun | superdug, http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+quick+ref+filetype%3Apdf&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
| 19:32.51 | stew | superdug: you have downloaded a .deb from somewhere? (makes me wonder where and why, most things should be avilable using apt-get or aptitude instead of having to download them manually) |
| 19:32.59 | macman_ | dd if=/dev/dvdrw of=Bolt.iso |
| 19:33.01 | dustybin | stew: i changed my /etc/hosts hostname, is there a way to activate the new hostname without restarting the box? |
| 19:33.06 | macman_ | no good |
| 19:33.12 | xand | grrr |
| 19:33.12 | superdug | bpun: I'm getting a package conflict of the previous version |
| 19:33.14 | stew | dustybin: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 19:33.23 | stew | superdug: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 19:33.24 | dustybin | thanks |
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| 19:33.49 | superdug | stew: conflicting packages - not installing virtualbox-2.1 |
| 19:33.59 | freaky[t] | hi all. can anybody tell me why the package command-not-found is not in my apt repository even on websites it says there should be? |
| 19:34.03 | stew | superdug: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 19:34.04 | mar0wanna | guys i know this is a bit of a noob questions but whenever putty gets disconnected rtorrent locks a session directory and its help by xxxx:pid |
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| 19:34.07 | freaky[t] | am i missing something in my sources.list? |
| 19:34.25 | mar0wanna | held*** not help* sorry |
| 19:34.31 | stew | mar0wanna: you want to disconnect and leave rtorrent running? |
| 19:34.38 | freaky[t] | im using debian lenny |
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| 19:34.55 | antii | hmm |
| 19:34.55 | mar0wanna | no anytiem i disconnect from putty, and log back in rtorrent can lock the session directory |
| 19:34.56 | dacs | stew: if i may ask, how do i rip my dvd to my hdd? |
| 19:34.56 | bpun | dusted, man hosts << file is not meant to change localhost's hostname |
| 19:34.59 | mar0wanna | as its being held by another PID |
| 19:35.00 | antii | cant find the nvidia driver in apt-cache search |
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| 19:35.50 | bolt | mar0wanna: run rtorrent in screen |
| 19:36.00 | stew | dacs: if you mount the dvd, there should be a bunch of files on the dvd you can copy. if not, it is encrypted |
| 19:36.00 | mar0wanna | bolt it is running in screen |
| 19:36.22 | mar0wanna | i have screen modified so it pulls up htop rtorrent and 3 bash |
| 19:36.47 | bpun | dacs, rip or image ? |
| 19:36.48 | stew | dacs: what is on the dvd? |
| 19:36.49 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8646 |
| 19:36.51 | mar0wanna | i just cant remember the command to recover rtorrent process.. |
| 19:37.01 | antii | anyone? |
| 19:37.11 | antii | how do i get the driver for my 9500gt |
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| 19:37.14 | Zookey | hi |
| 19:37.31 | bolt | mar0wanna: what do you mean recover it? |
| 19:37.40 | mar0wanna | bolt can i pm |
| 19:37.41 | bpun | wat_, maybe u have a cron job doing something try in a minute.. or find out what process is in pending? |
| 19:37.43 | mar0wanna | as to not spam up the channel |
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| 19:37.48 | Zookey | i installed gnome over console, but after donwloading there was 99%, but it stucks |
| 19:38.00 | wat_ | bpun i logged out and logged back in and i still get that message |
| 19:38.04 | suzu | mar0wanna: when you reattach the screen, rtorrent should just be running fine |
| 19:38.04 | dacs | stew: Jesus and good friday |
| 19:38.05 | bpun | Zookey, try apt-get -f install |
| 19:38.16 | stew | dacs: what? |
| 19:38.19 | Zookey | -f? |
| 19:38.45 | Zookey | apt-get -f install gnome? |
| 19:38.50 | bpun | wat_, ps aux|grep apt .. and use kill -9 <# of second column> <<< u just have to do this very selectively.. be careful what u kill :) |
| 19:38.59 | antii | are the nvidia drivers not avaible? :( |
| 19:39.03 | dacs | stew: its Jesus movie? from church? our preist want me to clip some parts from the movie |
| 19:39.09 | wat_ | im going to reboot lol |
| 19:39.24 | bpun | wat_, or type ps |
| 19:39.37 | bpun | wat_, maybe u accidentally went ctl-z ... |
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| 19:39.47 | bpun | wat_ on a apt-get process... |
| 19:39.52 | stew | dacs: yeah, then just mount it, and there should be a bunch of files on there you can just copy |
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| 19:40.08 | Zookey | i made me root, and then installed gnome with apt-get install gnome |
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| 19:40.39 | dacs | stew: nothing in the audio_TS , but there is like 10 files in the vdeo_ folder |
| 19:40.42 | dusted | bpun, I know ? |
| 19:40.44 | pdaap | hi can somebody help me with a science question |
| 19:41.00 | mynd | how do I view arp entries? |
| 19:41.18 | stew | mynd: arp -a (or man arp) |
| 19:41.21 | pdaap | hello i need help here |
| 19:41.23 | dacs | mynd: in cisco router you just do show arp |
| 19:41.23 | bpun | dusted, editing /etc/hosts doesn't change the hostname... |
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| 19:41.27 | stew | Zookey: if you run "apt-get install gnome" it should resume where it left off |
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| 19:41.38 | Lns | dacs: stew: http://arnigunn.blog.is/users/50/arnigunn/img/lol-jesus-brb.jpg |
| 19:41.38 | mynd | dacs: nah in debian |
| 19:41.41 | pdaap | hello |
| 19:41.44 | pdaap | HELLO |
| 19:41.45 | pdaap | HELLLO |
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| 19:41.47 | pdaap | HELLO |
| 19:41.48 | Zookey | what do you mean? |
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| 19:41.54 | stew | Lns: wrong channel |
| 19:41.57 | fisxoj | hello, I just got a bunch of errors upgrading hal and xorg on testing... anyone know anything about that? |
| 19:42.00 | Zookey | i am a noob, sorry |
| 19:42.05 | stew | pdaap: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 19:42.19 | dusted | bpun, obviously it does not, it's /etc/hosts, it's not made to do that, if you want to change the hostname, you can edit /etc/hostname, and call /bin/hostname |
| 19:42.22 | pdaap | i need help with science |
| 19:42.25 | pdaap | can u help me |
| 19:42.43 | mynd | stew: thx...just realized that it is located under /sbin which is not in my user's path |
| 19:42.45 | mynd | thx |
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| 19:42.51 | antii | how do i set up a xorg? |
| 19:42.54 | bpun | dusted, u dont need to reboot for /etc/hosts to take effect... |
| 19:43.01 | dacs | mynd: may he deal with you, who you are makeing fun of?! |
| 19:43.08 | dusted | bpun, I know that, and I'm starting to wonder why you are telling me this |
| 19:43.09 | suzu | what is te ultimate answer to life the universe and everything ? |
| 19:43.16 | bolt | ponders why people prefer obscure webpages to the actual manpage that came with their software and that is correct for their version of the software |
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| 19:43.37 | mynd | dacs: making fun of??? where do you get that from? |
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| 19:43.58 | Zookey | should i try it one more to install gnome? |
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| 19:44.06 | macman_ | guys |
| 19:44.10 | dacs | mynd: sorry not you |
| 19:44.14 | dusted | bpun, have you recieved any message from me, asking questions ?? :s |
| 19:44.18 | macman_ | i can't burn this dvd .. should i mount it as FS and then copy the contents ? |
| 19:44.20 | fisxoj | specifically, it seems the packages scripts can't start/stop hal |
| 19:44.26 | dacs | Lns: may he deal with you, who you are makeing fun of?! |
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| 19:44.29 | mynd | dacs: no prob...just opened the pic myself and realized what was going on :P |
| 19:44.35 | bpun | memorizes dustybin isn't the dusty he thought he was and laughs outloud |
| 19:44.41 | dusted | aaaaaah xD |
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| 19:46.24 | Zookey | should i try it one more to install gnome? |
| 19:46.33 | Lns | dacs: i posted that because of the mention of good friday and such |
| 19:46.35 | wat_ | is there a repository for hp printers, that has programs such as hp-config |
| 19:46.36 | Lns | no offense intended lol |
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| 19:47.08 | antii | how do i generate a xorg.conf for my nvidia card? |
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| 19:47.22 | stew | antii: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:47.30 | antii | thx |
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| 19:47.51 | dacs | Lns: i don't appreciate you make fun of the LORD! thats all, it not funny anyways! |
| 19:48.01 | stew | dacs: Lns: take it elsewhere please |
| 19:48.09 | Lord | don't make fun of me |
| 19:48.17 | jelly-home | ffs. |
| 19:48.24 | stew | Lord: stop |
| 19:48.27 | Lns | oh jeez, you guys are so lame, can't take a simple joke |
| 19:48.36 | stew | Lns: drop it |
| 19:48.38 | bpun | Lns, some people in international chat rooms are trans-theists and don't find any humor in sadistic pictures |
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| 19:48.49 | antii | stew: that didnt generate information on my graphic card |
| 19:48.55 | antii | there is another commando i belive :S |
| 19:48.57 | stew | antii: it shouldn't need to |
| 19:48.58 | macman_ | i just mounted a dvd right as a block device / FS .. i have a VIDEO_TS folder ..what is the best way to copy it to my hd .. can i dd it now ? |
| 19:49.07 | mps31-ripe | anyone got a simple xen dom0 setup on lenny |
| 19:49.11 | stew | antii: it should be automatically detected correctly at runtime |
| 19:49.34 | gravity | notes that there is now a sample xorg.conf shipped with the X server in sid that you can copy out and customize rather than using dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 19:50.13 | gravity | Since dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will become a no-op very soon, if it's not already |
| 19:50.13 | Lns | I didn't bring up the topic of Good Friday, I merely contributed. What if I took offense as a non-christian to your talk? It's totally OT anyway. |
| 19:50.13 | stew | gravity: it backs up the current one though? |
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| 19:50.13 | mps31-ripe | there seem to be so many xen packages |
| 19:50.20 | gravity | stew: It just shouldn't really do anything |
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| 19:50.37 | gravity | That's not here yet though, aiui |
| 19:50.48 | gravity | But this is a heads up |
| 19:50.56 | stew | Lns: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. note that the original mention was on topic as it was the answer to "what kind of dvd is this you are trying to copy" |
| 19:51.12 | stew | gravity: /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg/examples? |
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| 19:51.46 | gravity | stew: I think that's where I put it |
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| 19:51.55 | gravity | Either there or just /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg |
| 19:53.09 | antii | is firefox named iceweasel on deb? |
| 19:53.18 | stew | antii: yes |
| 19:53.30 | bpun | worries lns might end up barging back right in here acting a second-coming ass of himself once again |
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| 19:53.46 | stew | bpun: drop it |
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| 19:54.07 | jpinx | !tell antii why iceweasel |
| 19:54.15 | bpun | stew, i dropped it.. i'm saying he wont :) |
| 19:54.15 | wat_ | http://fpaste.org/paste/8649 |
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| 19:54.20 | bpun | lol |
| 19:54.37 | jelly-home | gravity: are they going to make a way to make randr adjustments permanent (in a DE-agnostic way)? |
| 19:55.07 | stew | i need to figure out where i put my synaptics settings |
| 19:55.12 | wat_ | and when i run "apt-get remove hopj" i get E: Couldn't find package hopj |
| 19:55.32 | wat_ | whoops HOPJ is what i need to use |
| 19:55.46 | wat_ | hpoj whoops |
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| 19:56.04 | wat_ | Package hpoj is not installed, so not removed |
| 19:56.11 | bpun | apt-get uses python? |
| 19:56.12 | gravity | jelly-home: You can configure your xorg.conf to do so |
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| 19:57.11 | asg|nb | bpun: perl |
| 19:57.13 | stew | bpun: no, its written in c++ |
| 19:57.19 | stew | no, it doesn't use perl |
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| 19:57.36 | stew | debconf does though |
| 19:57.43 | bpun | just wondering why wat_ 's paste has python-like trace exception message |
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| 19:57.55 | jelly-home | gravity: yes, using an almost, but not completely different syntax :-| |
| 19:58.06 | wat_ | bpun i dont know |
| 19:58.21 | wat_ | bpun can i send you a private message? |
| 19:58.35 | gravity | jelly-home: Well, that's how upstream decided to do things |
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| 19:59.09 | dusted | trans-theists <- okay, what does that mean? |
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| 19:59.39 | antii | hm |
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| 20:00.04 | antii | why can't i open my windows drive? i have installed ntfs-3g, i get: Invalid mount option when attempting to open the volume 'stuff'. |
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| 20:00.34 | dusted | antii, what does your mount command look like? |
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| 20:00.49 | antii | dusted: ? |
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| 20:01.23 | dusted | antii, you were trying to mount a windows drive right? |
| 20:01.33 | antii | no supposed it was mounted from boot? :s |
| 20:01.49 | dusted | so you added an entry to fstab to make it do that? |
| 20:02.07 | prime2 | dusted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transtheism |
| 20:02.32 | antii | dusted: nope |
| 20:02.34 | dusted | prime2, oh, religious stuff |
| 20:02.43 | dusted | antii, then why would it mount your partition? |
| 20:02.54 | stew | dusted: prime2: please take the religious stuff elsewhere |
| 20:02.54 | antii | dont know? |
| 20:03.07 | dusted | takes out garbage |
| 20:03.20 | dusted | antii, you got the error message from somewhere right? |
| 20:03.35 | antii | yes, in gnome when i clicked the disk |
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| 20:03.56 | Lns | invites anyone over to #religion to keep the conv. going |
| 20:03.56 | antii | dusted: now i mounted the disk to /mnt/windows and that worked |
| 20:04.02 | dusted | oh, okay, dunno how gnome works, but you should be able to mount your disk manually if you specify -t ntfs-3g |
| 20:04.06 | antii | but I can't see the disk on "Computer" anymore |
| 20:04.08 | dusted | okay |
| 20:04.43 | antii | dusted: where shall i add that? |
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| 20:05.22 | dusted | antii, if you try and mount the partition manually, but you mentioned that you got it mounted, so the problem is gone, right? |
| 20:05.41 | antii | dusted: kind of, but i wanna see the disk on "Computer" |
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| 20:06.28 | dusted | okay, not sure how that stuff works, but you could create a symlink to the /mnt/windows dir on your desktop or homedir or whatnot |
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| 20:06.50 | antii | how my stuff works? :P cant be different from yours |
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| 20:08.11 | dusted | I'm running blackbox as my window manager, so it might be, I do not using gui filemanagers |
| 20:08.56 | antii | ahh |
| 20:09.04 | antii | btw |
| 20:09.21 | antii | is file permissions right if i can't write in like /etc/apache as user? |
| 20:10.19 | bpun | antii, "cd ~ " << is the only folder writable for normal users |
| 20:10.29 | tictac | is there not a startx command anymore in lenny? |
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| 20:10.53 | tictac | nvm |
| 20:11.18 | bpun | antii, and /tmp with special permission flag called sticky bit |
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| 20:14.16 | antii | ok |
| 20:14.35 | antii | where is the config located there i change like language and stuff? :/ |
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| 20:14.59 | ranix | antii: you have a valley girl accent |
| 20:15.02 | ranix | antii: in IRC |
| 20:15.10 | antii | roger |
| 20:15.17 | ranix | antii: you might consider altering this file in yourself |
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| 20:16.46 | bpun | !tell antii about locales |
| 20:17.11 | alemani | dfg |
| 20:17.19 | file-exists-p | I am interested in comment and feedback on http://www.idiap.ch/~fleuret/files/selector_1.0-R140_i386.deb |
| 20:17.59 | file-exists-p | it's a dynamic string matching command for history search in shell |
| 20:18.10 | file-exists-p | well it can be used for other things too |
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| 20:19.08 | bpun | file-exists-p, never used ctrl-r with bash before? |
| 20:19.29 | chovy | tuantub: thanks |
| 20:19.43 | file-exists-p | bpun: you think? :) |
| 20:20.08 | file-exists-p | bpun: but it is interesting. C-r is somehow "not mainstream" enough that people immediately tell me that |
| 20:20.14 | tuantub | chovy: ;) |
| 20:20.35 | bpun | file-exists-p, the #bash people i'm sure are better at it than me.. i seldomly use it.. |
| 20:20.46 | file-exists-p | bpun ok. my selector is better |
| 20:20.48 | file-exists-p | by far |
| 20:20.56 | bpun | file-exists-p, u made it? |
| 20:20.59 | stew | file-exists-p: no source code? |
| 20:20.59 | file-exists-p | yes |
| 20:21.01 | dusted | file-exists-p, how does it differ by C-r ? |
| 20:21.17 | JyZyXEL | lol i was like "hmm i wonder what all key binds did bash have" first one i tried ^d |
| 20:21.18 | file-exists-p | dusted shows all lines matching what you type, dynamically, not just one. you have to try |
| 20:21.21 | bpun | file-exists-p, if u're concluding it's better.. then why are u asking about ctrl-r ? |
| 20:21.21 | JyZyXEL | the logout bind |
| 20:21.27 | bpun | lol |
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| 20:21.30 | file-exists-p | bpun: I am ? |
| 20:21.36 | dusted | file-exists-p, okay, source ? |
| 20:21.38 | file-exists-p | stew the source is on my web page |
| 20:21.41 | file-exists-p | stew the git repo |
| 20:21.47 | dusted | okay |
| 20:22.02 | file-exists-p | http://www.idiap.ch/~fleuret/git/selector |
| 20:22.22 | magyar | how can i get the listing of root servers with dig? |
| 20:22.26 | bpun | file-exists-p, u should tell the #bash people and ask them if bash can already do what ur claiming ur tool can.. bash has very esoteric features |
| 20:22.32 | stew | magyar: type "dig" |
| 20:22.35 | file-exists-p | bpun I know bash pretty well |
| 20:22.50 | file-exists-p | bpun well enough to know that no, nothing even close to that exists in bash |
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| 20:22.58 | bpun | file-exists-p, to what? |
| 20:23.08 | file-exists-p | bpun hu? |
| 20:23.11 | magyar | stew: :) i suck |
| 20:23.12 | file-exists-p | to what what? :) |
| 20:23.15 | stew | magyar: :) |
| 20:23.37 | bpun | file-exists-p, if u can make a video of it.. i'd give u an oscar for it.. i dont want u to hack my system with ur mysterious deb file |
| 20:23.41 | magyar | i typed "nslookup" |
| 20:23.51 | bpun | lol |
| 20:23.51 | file-exists-p | bpun I understand |
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| 20:24.07 | file-exists-p | on the other hand it is on a web page with contact coordinates ... |
| 20:24.10 | file-exists-p | well |
| 20:24.15 | file-exists-p | I could have hacked a poor guy page |
| 20:24.16 | file-exists-p | anyway |
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| 20:24.58 | file-exists-p | I made a video of the equivalent I wrote for emacs |
| 20:25.01 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 20:25.09 | file-exists-p | to search into the recentf files |
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| 20:26.22 | bpun | file-exists-p, what's it supposed to do anyways that selector gadget? |
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| 20:26.32 | file-exists-p | dynamic pattern matching |
| 20:26.36 | file-exists-p | while you type |
| 20:26.54 | file-exists-p | it restricts the file you gave as input (for instance the history) to the lines matching what you typed |
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| 20:26.57 | NuryFV | hello everybody, i have a little problem with my debian, sometimes the screen turns black like trying to reboot the x, but don't come back, y have to reboot and sign in again to have my debian again |
| 20:27.11 | bpun | file-exists-p, dynamic pattern matching to what? |
| 20:27.16 | file-exists-p | ... |
| 20:27.20 | file-exists-p | to select a line? :/ |
| 20:27.21 | NuryFV | i'm sorry for mi bad english |
| 20:27.25 | bpun | file-exists-p, to cookie monsters? |
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| 20:27.40 | file-exists-p | bpun you are high? |
| 20:27.50 | bpun | file-exists-p, like a select list of matching subdirectories? |
| 20:28.20 | file-exists-p | bpun: man, you have to try it. that'd be simpler |
| 20:28.25 | bpun | file-exists-p, lol |
| 20:28.28 | fisxoj | anyone having weird xorg/hal upgrades on testing today? |
| 20:28.31 | file-exists-p | bpun take the source code, have a quick look, there is no "MOUHAHAHAHAHAHA" in the code |
| 20:28.49 | bpun | file-exists-p, i wont try it.. make a video or scriptfile of it.. is there a source code for it? |
| 20:28.53 | gravity | fisxoj: xorg didn't update in testing today. It did change in unstable. |
| 20:29.10 | gravity | Rather substantially |
| 20:29.16 | stew | bpun: he already posted a link to the sourcecode |
| 20:29.18 | bpun | file-exists-p, ah |
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| 20:30.40 | fisxoj | gravity: thanks... I thought I had testing pinned higher... this is gonna be a mess.. |
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| 20:31.42 | wat_ | Can anyone tell me how to disable the debian graphic login screen, so whenever I boot debian, debian boots to a console interface? |
| 20:31.51 | file-exists-p | dpkg --purge xdm ? |
| 20:31.51 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up xdm all over file-exists-p and sephii... |
| 20:31.54 | stew | wat_: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 20:32.05 | wat_ | What does that do stew? |
| 20:32.13 | gravity | fisxoj: The X server came with a NEWS.Debian entry explaining what the changes were and how to deal with them if you ahve issues. |
| 20:32.21 | asg|nb | wat_: the bot will tell you what you need to do. /msg dpkg nodm |
| 20:32.35 | stew | wat_: if you type that into irc, the bot named dpkg will tell you what you want to know |
| 20:32.51 | wat_ | i meant the command stew |
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| 20:33.22 | wat_ | so, "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm slim" if i run that, i will have a console interface on bootup, and i can run "startx" to have a gui, correct? |
| 20:33.30 | stew | correct |
| 20:33.33 | asg|nb | wat_: yes |
| 20:33.43 | NuryFV | well thanks for all the help that give me today, thanks very much |
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| 20:33.47 | wat_ | thanks |
| 20:34.14 | fisxoj | gravity: thanks for that... but, my errors were with dpkg/apt, not xorg itself. Post-inst scripts didn't finish |
| 20:34.37 | wat_ | stew: http://fpaste.org/paste/8654 |
| 20:34.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | slaps dpkg |
| 20:34.51 | gravity | fisxoj: Oh? What packages failed? |
| 20:34.58 | gravity | fisxoj: And how, if you know |
| 20:35.12 | alecs1 | hey, can I reload video driver without xserver restart? |
| 20:35.15 | stew | wat_: it looks like you just need to "apt-get remove gdm" |
| 20:35.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | slaps file-exists-p as well for good measure for making dpkg highlight him |
| 20:35.24 | antii | if i wanna automount my windows drive, is this right in fstab? /dev/sdb1 /home/antii/windows ntfs |
| 20:35.24 | stew | alecs1: no |
| 20:35.27 | file-exists-p | pardon me? |
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| 20:35.44 | bpun | file-exists-p, i'm supposed to use this in bash? alias h='selector -d -i -b -v -f <(history)' |
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| 20:35.56 | fisxoj | gravity: now just hal is giving errors.... I'm not sure if xorg is ok. |
| 20:35.57 | file-exists-p | bpun yes, or make an alias, or hack your .inputrc |
| 20:35.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | file-exists-p, maybe... first offense and everything |
| 20:36.01 | bpun | file-exists-p, what's with the '(history)' ? |
| 20:36.06 | alecs1 | eeww, bad |
| 20:36.11 | wat_ | i just need to install my nvidia drivers, but X can't be running, what should i do :(. killall gdm just makes debian freeze |
| 20:36.26 | streuner | antii: /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
| 20:36.27 | file-exists-p | bpun "<(blah)" create a virtual file containing the output of blah |
| 20:36.37 | alecs1 | (Windows does it) |
| 20:36.38 | gravity | wat_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 20:36.44 | wat_ | sure |
| 20:36.44 | gravity | wat_: As root/sudo |
| 20:36.51 | wat_ | of course |
| 20:36.56 | gravity | wat_: In the console as well |
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| 20:37.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | file-exists-p, dpkg [...] sticks his fingers down his ***throat*** <-- short form of my nick |
| 20:37.10 | streuner | antii: is that NTFS or VFAT? |
| 20:37.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | you planned that! |
| 20:37.19 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 20:37.21 | file-exists-p | you are all high ? |
| 20:37.26 | file-exists-p | this is #marijuana ? |
| 20:37.27 | bpun | file-exists-p, how am i supposed to use it? |
| 20:37.33 | cilkay | Hello. I just upgraded to Debian Lenny and have the 2.6.26-1-openvz-amd64 kernel running. When I attempt to vzctl enter 101, I'm told: Unable to open pty: No such file or directory Do I have to MAKEDEV pty or something? |
| 20:37.34 | antii | streuner: NTFS |
| 20:37.43 | gravity | doesn't use bash so isn't really useful for providing feedback to file-exists-p |
| 20:37.44 | antii | streuner: the bot didnt gave me what i wanted |
| 20:37.57 | cilkay | This was working prior to the Lenny upgrade when I was running Etch and an older OpenVZ kernel I got from openvz.org. |
| 20:37.58 | stew | it actually does seem to work in zsh |
| 20:38.01 | file-exists-p | you type strings, separated by ; and the display restrict the history to the lines containing all the substrings |
| 20:38.13 | maligor | file-exists-p, correct, none of us fit in low memory |
| 20:38.22 | file-exists-p | if you type [enter] you will exist selector with the currently highlighted line at the prompt |
| 20:38.31 | file-exists-p | maligor :) |
| 20:38.32 | gravity | stew: Is it cool? It sounds like a very neat thing that I'd never use :-) |
| 20:38.35 | gravity | There's a ton of those |
| 20:38.41 | stew | its really just a "give me a list of strings, and i'll help you filter them" and zsh's history is just as good at providing strings |
| 20:38.48 | stew | gravity: yes, that probably sums it up |
| 20:38.51 | file-exists-p | stew thanks |
| 20:38.51 | streuner | antii: what do you want, somebody who read the URL or/and factoid for you? |
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| 20:39.09 | gravity | heh |
| 20:39.12 | file-exists-p | gravity there are tons of soft doing that? |
| 20:39.15 | antii | streuner: no, i want to do so my windows disk automticlly mounts to that folder everytime i start the computer |
| 20:39.27 | jetscreamer | did you fix it? |
| 20:39.29 | gravity | file-exists-p: No, I mean there's tons of very neat things that I wouldn't end up using for whatever reason |
| 20:39.44 | file-exists-p | gravity I can understand that |
| 20:39.49 | file-exists-p | I feel the same |
| 20:39.59 | stew | i certainly wouldn't be using this until its actaully properly packaged :) |
| 20:40.00 | streuner | antii: well, look for an entry in /etc/fstab then, mentioned in the factoids |
| 20:40.13 | file-exists-p | stew let's separate issues here please :) |
| 20:40.13 | streuner | antii: s/in/for/ |
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| 20:40.57 | file-exists-p | you can't blame the command for the errors of the package |
| 20:41.06 | antii | streuner: dont understand |
| 20:41.14 | stew | no, i can just ignore the command becuase i won't install it until its probably packaged :) |
| 20:41.23 | file-exists-p | it does not install ? |
| 20:41.33 | streuner | antii: /msg dpkg ntfsrw -> ntfs-3g > http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage |
| 20:41.39 | stew | file-exists-p: does what install? your .deb? |
| 20:41.52 | file-exists-p | yes? |
| 20:41.54 | stew | file-exists-p: no, i'm not on i386 |
| 20:41.57 | file-exists-p | ho ok |
| 20:41.58 | bpun | file-exists-p, i just extracted to a limitted user account.. works here.. |
| 20:42.19 | file-exists-p | bpun and does it look useful to you? :) |
| 20:42.23 | bpun | file-exists-p, hmmm |
| 20:42.31 | antii | streuner: oh sry |
| 20:42.31 | alecs1 | again about video drivers: do you know any work-around for radeon and radonhd drawing very slow |
| 20:42.45 | file-exists-p | stew so "properly packaged" means "packaged for architecture XXX" ? |
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| 20:43.05 | antii | streuner: if I mount them in /mnt/ folder, then i cant write/read cause of permissions? |
| 20:43.11 | stew | file-exists-p: no, it means policy compliant |
| 20:43.20 | alecs1 | I updated to unstable today, and until the bugfix comes I can't even watch a movie... |
| 20:43.22 | bpun | file-exists-p, not sure.. it's not bad though.. i'm so used to using things like clex and lynx for fast navigating the system... |
| 20:43.24 | gravity | alecs1: If you're running unstable, that's a known bug |
| 20:43.30 | file-exists-p | clex? |
| 20:43.32 | gravity | urgh |
| 20:43.33 | jetscreamer | /dev/hdd2 /home/hdd2 ntfs-3g noauto,users,noexec,rw,umask=022,fmask=0113,dmask=002,uid=1000,gid=1000,nls=utf8 0 0 |
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| 20:43.46 | alecs1 | known? since when is know? |
| 20:43.54 | gravity | alecs1: #523467 |
| 20:43.56 | alecs1 | maybe next time I avoid |
| 20:44.01 | gravity | Since today. |
| 20:44.07 | alecs1 | ooo, lol, that's me |
| 20:44.09 | bpun | file-exists-p, it'd be nice if it can do auto-completion/dynamic pattern search on the current directory/files ... that would be cool.. |
| 20:44.13 | jetscreamer | alecs1: mplayer in console |
| 20:44.13 | gravity | Or maybe yesterday, I dunno. I just saw the bug reports this morning. |
| 20:44.26 | streuner | !dbugs 523467 |
| 20:44.30 | dpkg | #523467:I[xserver-xorg-video-radeon] xserver-xorg-video-radeon: All draws are very slow after update to 1:6.12.2-1 (); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:39:01 UTC [] |
| 20:44.39 | bpun | file-exists-p, i've always been looking for an app like that.. the closest that come is clex and mc... |
| 20:44.43 | worldend2012 | u guys think the world will end in december 2012: |
| 20:44.48 | worldend2012 | *? |
| 20:44.52 | streuner | heh |
| 20:44.55 | file-exists-p | bpun: you can do "selector <(ls)" :) |
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| 20:45.05 | bpun | file-exists-p, i'll try that.. |
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| 20:45.23 | bpun | hope i'm not sounding like a woman here hahaha |
| 20:45.38 | bpun | the guy needs someone to test his app so i'm doing it :) |
| 20:45.38 | alecs1 | yeah, I reported that earlier, but now I want to watch a movie I can't even downgrade... |
| 20:45.39 | bpun | lol |
| 20:45.49 | stew | file-exists-p: it needs j/k to move the selection up and down |
| 20:45.49 | streuner | looks at his calendar, must be sunday ;-) |
| 20:45.57 | file-exists-p | well |
| 20:46.01 | stew | i guess that isn't going to work though |
| 20:46.05 | file-exists-p | nope |
| 20:46.09 | stew | file-exists-p: so make escape change modes :) |
| 20:46.10 | file-exists-p | C-j and C-k could |
| 20:46.12 | worldend2012 | stew: hi |
| 20:46.21 | file-exists-p | but C-k is already behaving "readline-like" |
| 20:46.35 | stew | worldend2012: if you have a debian related question, just ask it |
| 20:46.49 | stew | worldend2012: otherwise, try #defocus or ##philosophy |
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| 20:46.53 | wamty_ | How can I add a network printer? |
| 20:46.57 | worldend2012 | thx |
| 20:46.59 | wamty_ | from command line only ? |
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| 20:47.11 | streuner | worldend: this is a support channel, if you have something to say OT, just /j #debian-offtopic |
| 20:47.30 | streuner | wamty_: easy, just use cups |
| 20:47.42 | bpun | file-exists-p, u do know that the bash people might find it a joke.. u can already do what ur claiming ur tool can do.. the difference with urs is that u get a visual list instead of using up and down keys... so i think some might find it useful... |
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| 20:47.45 | Zookey | streuner, germany? |
| 20:47.51 | streuner | wamty_: localhost:631 and choose (if supported) the printer |
| 20:48.34 | streuner | wamty_: look at linuxprinting.org first |
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| 20:49.12 | Zookey | streuner: are you from germany? |
| 20:49.19 | streuner | Who cares? |
| 20:49.25 | Zookey | me |
| 20:49.28 | streuner | good |
| 20:49.41 | Zookey | cause i have a question |
| 20:49.51 | Zookey | and its easier to ask it in german |
| 20:49.55 | streuner | !de |
| 20:49.55 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:50.01 | lacroix | 2292 ? 00:18:20 cupsd this means that I have the cups daemon installed ? |
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| 20:50.12 | Zookey | nein bekomm ich nicht |
| 20:50.18 | dusted | that'd be a qualified assumption lacroix |
| 20:50.19 | Zookey | hab ich heut mittag versucht |
| 20:50.23 | stew | !de |
| 20:50.24 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:50.27 | Zookey | bekam eine antwort: du bist bloed |
| 20:50.32 | stew | Zookey: english only in here |
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| 20:51.00 | streuner | Zookey: just ask in english |
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| 20:51.07 | wat_ | apparently i need a copy of a compiled kernel? |
| 20:51.15 | wamty_ | 2292 ? 00:18:20 cupsd this means that I have the cups daemon installed ? |
| 20:51.16 | dusted | lacroix, it also suggsts that you've been doing quite a lot of printing, since it's used 18 minutes worth of cpu time |
| 20:51.27 | streuner | wamty_: dpkg -l cups |
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| 20:51.45 | Settler1063 | hello? |
| 20:51.49 | dusted | world! |
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| 20:52.00 | lacroix | dusted: I just pasted wamty's question. he messaged me with it, so I pasted it. :) |
| 20:52.10 | Settler1063 | hi. |
| 20:52.20 | dusted | ic |
| 20:52.26 | streuner | it must be sunday... |
| 20:52.28 | stew | Settler1063: do you have a debian related question we can help you with? |
| 20:52.31 | bpun | i think file-exists-p should submit his app .. it looks small clean and somewhat non pornish that a few might find useful :) |
| 20:52.32 | wamty_ | yea.. sorry lacroix |
| 20:52.44 | streuner | Zookey: dont message me, keep the questions here please |
| 20:53.01 | Zookey | but in german? |
| 20:53.04 | streuner | no |
| 20:53.08 | streuner | in english |
| 20:53.11 | magyar | i have two servers with same config settings for bind. One resolves a specific domain the other doesnt. What is the beef? |
| 20:53.15 | file-exists-p | bpun ah! |
| 20:53.19 | wamty_ | So? |
| 20:53.20 | stew | Zookey: if you want to ask questions in german try #debian.de |
| 20:53.22 | file-exists-p | I was away while you were saying nice things! |
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| 20:53.55 | streuner | stew: he already did some hours ago, he told us "they called me stupid..." |
| 20:53.57 | wamty_ | Do i need to apt-get install cups ? |
| 20:54.02 | streuner | sure |
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| 20:54.10 | streuner | wamty_: /msg dpkg cups |
| 20:54.33 | wamty_ | Do i need to apt-get install cups ? |
| 20:54.39 | streuner | sure |
| 20:54.46 | streuner | !install cups |
| 20:54.46 | dpkg | hmm... cups setup is "aptitude install cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsomatic-ppd foomatic-db". Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or you can try printconf |
| 20:55.07 | wamty_ | apt-get or aptitude ? |
| 20:55.12 | streuner | aptitude |
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| 20:55.35 | streuner | wamty_: whats hard to read what the bot already told you? |
| 20:56.15 | wamty_ | I want to add a printer shared from a windows machine, so I will perform the stept you indicated |
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| 20:56.47 | wat_ | could someone give me that command that exits X for me one more time? |
| 20:56.59 | stew | wat_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 20:57.03 | wat_ | thanks |
| 20:57.26 | bpun | file-exists-p, do u know anything related to list queries under X ? |
| 20:57.33 | file-exists-p | nope |
| 20:57.39 | file-exists-p | does not ring any bell |
| 20:57.49 | file-exists-p | but I and X-window are not exactly best buddies |
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| 20:57.56 | bpun | file-exists-p, there's this app called drag-box and is limitted in functionality.. |
| 20:58.16 | file-exists-p | and? |
| 20:58.23 | antii | I installed rxvt-unicode on debian/gnome, but i dont get a icon in Program list, have rebooted aswell :S |
| 20:58.51 | bpun | file-exists-p, i guess i can probably send a pipe to dragbox with selector or somthing... |
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| 20:59.34 | bpun | yep i guess that might work :) |
| 20:59.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | streuner, well, perhaps he was :) |
| 20:59.55 | wamty_ | I pointed dirrectly to localhost:631 from links and it seems that cups daemon is already installed |
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| 21:00.22 | streuner | CutMeOwnThroat: well, he ignoring me too, i told him not to PM me, he continue... |
| 21:00.37 | wamty_ | streuner ? |
| 21:00.47 | streuner | somebody else |
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| 21:00.56 | wamty_ | I pointed dirrectly to localhost:631 from links and it seems that cups daemon is already installed |
| 21:01.08 | streuner | good |
| 21:01.17 | Zookey | i installed debian, and then wanted to install gnome over terminal, it downloaded, but after, there was a message : 99% [working] and it stucks, why? |
| 21:01.35 | antii | how come i cant see the icon? |
| 21:01.58 | streuner | GNOME? |
| 21:02.05 | antii | YES |
| 21:02.15 | streuner | gnome-volume-manager and nautilus are installed? |
| 21:02.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | streuner, qualifies |
| 21:02.18 | Settler1063 | i don't know why i'm booted from the game |
| 21:02.56 | wamty_ | I have to make a special printer user on the windows machine and share the printer and then see if its available using smbclient ? |
| 21:03.05 | antii | streuner: asking me?? |
| 21:03.13 | stew | Settler1063: do you have a debian related question? |
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| 21:03.19 | streuner | antii: sure |
| 21:03.21 | antii | installing now |
| 21:03.22 | antii | hehe |
| 21:03.31 | wamty_ | I have to make a special printer user on the windows machine and share the printer and then see if its available using smbclient ? |
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| 21:04.33 | wamty_ | anyone? |
| 21:04.33 | antii | streuner: installed, do i have to restart X to see the icon now_ |
| 21:04.41 | streuner | antii: well, what branch of Debian, lenny? nevermind then, in case of squeeze or sid, just use consolekit 2.x |
| 21:04.46 | antii | Lenny |
| 21:04.51 | streuner | ok |
| 21:05.12 | streuner | antii: no idea |
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| 21:05.19 | antii | sec |
| 21:05.22 | streuner | hm |
| 21:05.24 | wamty_ | streuner? |
| 21:05.42 | bpun | wamty_, http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/samba/ |
| 21:05.57 | bpun | wamty_, there's webmin |
| 21:06.10 | antii | streuner: no, still no icon :'( *sadface* |
| 21:06.31 | file-exists-p | bpun the dragbox package comes with gnome and all his friends :/ |
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| 21:06.50 | bpun | file-exists-p, i know.. it's not an X intrinsic app... |
| 21:06.54 | file-exists-p | indeed :) |
| 21:06.57 | bpun | file-exists-p, but xclip is... |
| 21:06.59 | streuner | antii: hm, could be, that GNOME automount doesnt like entries in /etc/fstab ... |
| 21:07.05 | file-exists-p | and xclip, we like |
| 21:07.05 | jetscreamer | !webmin |
| 21:07.05 | dpkg | methinks webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
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| 21:07.36 | antii | streuner: nono its not that? :P |
| 21:07.39 | hallowname | lawlz |
| 21:07.47 | wamty_ | after I add a new printer, my linux applications will immediately see it or do I need to reboot ? |
| 21:08.02 | file-exists-p | bpun do you use emacs? |
| 21:08.26 | streuner | antii: well, do you have the entry for that partition in fstab? |
| 21:08.37 | antii | streuner: yes, but im not needing help with fstab? |
| 21:08.37 | antii | hmm |
| 21:08.40 | streuner | antii: in that case the icon should be there |
| 21:08.44 | antii | im talking about rxvt-unicode |
| 21:08.44 | alemani | wamty_: your applications will see it right away |
| 21:08.51 | streuner | heh |
| 21:09.06 | bpun | file-exists-p, emacs.. y sometimes.. |
| 21:09.15 | bpun | file-exists-p, i tend to use vim more often.. |
| 21:09.22 | file-exists-p | bpun I wrote a script in the same spirit as selector |
| 21:09.27 | file-exists-p | to select the files to open |
| 21:09.31 | file-exists-p | it is *very* efficient |
| 21:09.39 | bpun | file-exists-p, does it work with xemacs too ? |
| 21:09.43 | jetscreamer | !reboot |
| 21:09.43 | streuner | antii: oh sorry |
| 21:09.43 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 21:09.43 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 21:09.45 | file-exists-p | no idea |
| 21:09.53 | antii | streuner: ! :P |
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| 21:11.34 | antii | streuner: u know how to fix that? :p |
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| 21:12.28 | streuner | antii: i have no idea if there is an entry in that package for menu |
| 21:12.35 | bpun | file-exists-p, i think it's neat to use it like this.. selector+search in bookmarks then open with a webbrowser... |
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| 21:12.56 | antii | ok streuner |
| 21:13.00 | antii | what terminal should i use |
| 21:13.00 | antii | hmm |
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| 21:13.16 | file-exists-p | you can tell selector to save the selection somewhere |
| 21:13.37 | file-exists-p | so selector -o /tmp/url ~/.bookmarks && lynx $(cat /tmp/url) should work for instance |
| 21:13.45 | pickcoder | is fe08 the correct ipv6 range to use for LAN interfaces? |
| 21:13.54 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 21:14.07 | file-exists-p | maybe adding if [[ -f /tmp/url ]]; then lynx $(cat /tmp/url); fi |
| 21:14.29 | streuner | antii: gnome-terminal? :-P |
| 21:14.35 | antii | :P |
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| 21:14.43 | bpun | file-exists-p, u should make a front end to it with a simple X intrisic app .. the wider audience of users have no idea u can do neat short cuts with it.. |
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| 21:14.49 | streuner | there is an entry then :-P |
| 21:15.17 | antii | true |
| 21:15.26 | file-exists-p | bpun well, you have to realize my TODO list if pretty packed :) |
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| 21:16.41 | bpun | file-exists-p, there's an app of a feature i described which does basically the same thing but installs bloat qt base libraries... it's called launchy... |
| 21:17.27 | bpun | file-exists-p, it does something similar.. and with lists that user specified (directory paths and browser bookmarks) |
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| 21:18.03 | file-exists-p | bpun. ok. |
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| 21:18.24 | stuckey | I'm getting an error when I try to boot a system; it says something about "mount ... could not mount dev on root/dev (and also sys on root/sys and proc on root/proc)", and something about there isn't a "sbin/init". |
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| 21:18.46 | stuckey | Then I just have "BusyBox". Could anyone offer me some help? |
| 21:18.48 | Crazy_Hopper | guys, i need your advice regarding the best course of my actions in the following situation. in times of 2.6.26 kernel, there was a package with external kernel modules for gspca camera devices, since then those modules were included into the kernel. my camera worked in 2.6.26+gspca modules but now it doesn't, in 2.6.29. which means that there is a regression. i'm asking for what should i do now, whom should i talk to? |
| 21:19.04 | helo | will mailx send mail to an ip address instead of a domain name? user@[123.324.345.456] doesn't seem to work... |
| 21:19.07 | Crazy_Hopper | maybe kernel gspca maintainer? |
| 21:19.16 | bpun | file-exists-p, the idea with urs is flexible but is limitted to just the console :).. but i think i can find some use for it :) |
| 21:19.22 | helo | sendmail process failed with error code 1 |
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| 21:19.34 | file-exists-p | bpun good :) please mail me any bug / problems / suggestion. |
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| 21:21.59 | bpun | Crazy_Hopper, apt-cache search gspca .. it's in a separate package than the kernel tree |
| 21:22.34 | Crazy_Hopper | bpun: those modules are for 2.6.26 only |
| 21:22.45 | Crazy_Hopper | since 2.6.27, they are in kernel itself |
| 21:23.52 | bpun | Crazy_Hopper, dunno.. |
| 21:24.06 | bpun | Crazy_Hopper, find /lib/modules|grep gspca |
| 21:24.24 | Crazy_Hopper | and? they are there |
| 21:24.40 | Crazy_Hopper | they don't work as at least they did in 2.6.26 |
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| 21:25.17 | bpun | Crazy_Hopper, u can try using verbosity increase with a module's parameter probably (messages seen with dmesg).. modinfo <modulename> shows possible parameters |
| 21:25.29 | simonrvn | Crazy_Hopper, bpun: um, there's an issue with the gspca stuff, namely, stuff that used to use libv4l1 were built without it, then stuff like gspca - that uses that lib and asscoiated binaries - needed it, so stuff like cheese, camorama, etc. doesn't work with those devices anymore, until they get fixed. |
| 21:26.16 | simonrvn | if it's a "my gspca camera used to work in 2.6 but doesn't work now" issue |
| 21:26.23 | simonrvn | er, .26 |
| 21:26.39 | simonrvn | i haven't been able to use my webcam since... |
| 21:26.41 | Crazy_Hopper | simonrvn: thanks, so what is your suggestion? |
| 21:27.02 | Crazy_Hopper | and whose fault is that? |
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| 21:27.38 | bpun | sounds like the developers are transitioning their code |
| 21:27.44 | streuner | hm |
| 21:27.58 | streuner | why not just sell the webcam and buy something supported? |
| 21:28.07 | simonrvn | not suggesting anything, just a heads up. but, if you want one, i'll give one. you could try getting the source package for one of those, and rebuild it with the v4l1 api. you might have to re-do v4l2 stuff too, probably. my *best* suggestion would be to wait for that to happen ;). |
| 21:28.08 | streuner | easy solution |
| 21:28.19 | simonrvn | streuner: it *is* supported, that's not the issue. |
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| 21:28.44 | simonrvn | the drivers are present in .28 and up IIRC (could be .27) |
| 21:28.44 | bpun | streuner, but he has a porn shoot to film this weekend |
| 21:28.48 | bpun | lol |
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| 21:29.17 | streuner | well |
| 21:29.38 | simonrvn | kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_main.ko |
| 21:29.39 | streuner | have to use madwifi, bad enough... |
| 21:29.43 | simonrvn | uname -a: |
| 21:29.49 | simonrvn | Linux acahkos 2.6.29-1-686 #1 SMP Sun Apr 5 07:21:30 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:30.28 | simonrvn | oh, that was a selected line from modprobe -l | grep gspca |
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| 21:31.01 | bpun | streuner, i have to setup madwifi too.. on this laptop... the coders have been transitioing the code from madwifi to ath5k for quite some time now.. first time debian is on this laptop.. but i know fedora worked with ath5k on this machine... |
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| 21:31.38 | streuner | Do you really think those folks did something very new to the code? |
| 21:31.58 | streuner | ath5k is in the kernel itself... |
| 21:32.39 | simonrvn | yeh, has been for a while... |
| 21:32.40 | bpun | tries ath5k on a new kernel he upgraded a few days ago |
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| 21:33.24 | streuner | laptops are in this case a bitch, you cant just throw them out |
| 21:33.24 | bpun | .. i still get this 'debian:~# iwlist wlan0 scanning |
| 21:33.25 | bpun | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down' |
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| 21:33.58 | azeem_ | bpun: maybe you need some firmware, or activate the kill switch |
| 21:34.02 | uwe | hello, im looking at this howto http://wiki.flimzy.com/index.php/Install_Debian_on_USB to install debian on my USB, in the howto, the auther mounts the usb on /mnt/chroot/boot , and later works from /mnt/chroot ... can someone explain to me why is it done that way ? |
| 21:34.03 | bpun | i can always replace the inside laptop drive to boot up fedora and see what kernel ver etc it's using |
| 21:34.23 | Crazy_Hopper | bpun: try ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 21:34.38 | bpun | i dont know if fedora's ath5k is a very divergent source base than debian's.. |
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| 21:35.39 | bpun | streuner, what do u have for modinfo ath5k? mine says this-> "version: 0.5.0 (EXPERIMENTAL)" |
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| 21:36.02 | antii | one annoying thing with gnome is that when i open a folder a new window opens all the time, how can i solve this? :$ |
| 21:36.04 | bpun | Linux debian 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linu |
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| 21:36.27 | bpun | antii, u can rt-click the home icon on desktop and select browser.. |
| 21:36.57 | streuner | bpun: well, it doesnt say much, i use madwifi and not ath5k |
| 21:37.15 | antii | bpun: eh what? S: |
| 21:37.28 | bpun | streuner, are u using below .26-1? i'm wondering if urs says experimental as well.. |
| 21:37.46 | streuner | bpun: iam using a .24 kernel |
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| 21:38.11 | streuner | Linux version 2.6.24-1-686 (Debian 2.6.24-6) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080308 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-21)) #1 SMP Sat Apr 19 00:37:55 UTC 2008 |
| 21:38.13 | bpun | antii, i couldn't be clearer.. /ser// |
| 21:38.39 | antii | bpun: think u missunderstood me |
| 21:38.45 | streuner | bpun: thats the only kernel which supports my soundcard too :-P |
| 21:38.49 | simonrvn | s,ss,s, |
| 21:39.03 | antii | bpun: when i open my home folder, and open a map in it, a new "window" comes up |
| 21:39.13 | antii | and thats pretty annoying with like 100 windows |
| 21:39.14 | bpun | streuner, but does it say 0.5 for ur kernel.. for the module? |
| 21:39.24 | streuner | bpun: 0.1.1 |
| 21:39.37 | streuner | version: 0.1.1 (EXPERIMENTAL) |
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| 21:40.38 | bpun | streuner, i guess i'll found out today.. where is 2.6 my wifi stops working with ath5k |
| 21:40.45 | antii | ah |
| 21:40.45 | azeem_ | antii: System->Preferences->File Management->Behaviour->Always open in browser |
| 21:40.48 | antii | figured it out |
| 21:40.52 | antii | thx anyway azeem_ |
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| 21:42.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks green to me |
| 21:42.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | argh |
| 21:42.14 | streuner | hehe |
| 21:42.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | wrong # |
| 21:42.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | that was supposed to be NOT public |
| 21:42.34 | streuner | CutMeOwnThroat: "ECHAN" |
| 21:42.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | pulls bag over head |
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| 21:43.49 | radekp | hi, is there any reason why alsa-utils depends on python? |
| 21:44.31 | streuner | sure |
| 21:44.49 | streuner | if so, the maint. had a reason to do so |
| 21:45.35 | radekp | i am checking now gentoo ebuild and it does not semm to depend on python |
| 21:46.03 | simonrvn | radekp: and why would that matter? |
| 21:46.09 | streuner | Depends: libasound2 (>> 1.0.18), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libncurses5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), whiptail | dialog, module-init-tools, lsb-base (>= 3.0-9), linux-sound-base (>= 1.0.15-1) |
| 21:46.15 | gravity | Do you not have python installed? It's essentially part of a base system these days |
| 21:46.37 | radekp | i am trying to build debian image for small embedded system and i really cant affort another 20megabytes because the device does not have so much memory |
| 21:46.55 | streuner | hm, makes sense |
| 21:47.05 | simonrvn | tried emdebian? |
| 21:47.19 | simonrvn | !emdebian |
| 21:47.19 | dpkg | hmm... emdebian is a project focused on extending Debian's reach into the embedded space; it is an independent project and not formally associated with the Debian distribution [yet]. It aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded Linux. Check out http://www.emdebian.org/ as well as http://familiar.handhelds.org/ or #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
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| 21:48.26 | radekp | emdebian could work, but if want to offer advantage of full debian to my users |
| 21:48.58 | radekp | otherwise i could just use open embedded |
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| 21:49.15 | kittonian | anyone really good with qmail, vpopmail and courier-imap? i've been struggling with getting the IMAP server up and running against vpopmail (qmail, vpopmail, etc. are all up and running fine) and after not sleeping for two days, i'm fed up. So, I'm offering $100 to anyone with the chops to get it done. |
| 21:49.22 | simonrvn | radekp: for that you'll have to go check it out. i only saw that project at its inception just about, so i couldn't say anything about that. |
| 21:49.54 | simonrvn | kittonian: #qmail ? |
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| 21:50.14 | simonrvn | !damog |
| 21:50.20 | simonrvn | !gravity |
| 21:50.20 | dpkg | gravity rules, or a botaphile, or someone who has a mighty wang of doom, or the pwm pimp, or it pays to discover, or loves proprietary drivers. |
| 21:50.28 | gravity | man, is that old |
| 21:50.31 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 21:50.37 | simonrvn | totally =) |
| 21:50.46 | bolt | !sing sussudio |
| 21:50.46 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
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| 21:50.58 | bolt | older |
| 21:51.03 | kittonian | simon, you say that as if I'm not already in both #qmail and #courier and have been for two days. no one is in qmail and the people in courier have no clue |
| 21:51.04 | simonrvn | yup |
| 21:51.17 | bolt | looks around for sussudio |
| 21:51.24 | bpun | anyone knows a birthday card site service that doesnt require a dam credit card ? |
| 21:51.34 | bpun | is too poor to buy a bday card |
| 21:51.36 | simonrvn | kittonian: too bad :(. good luck with that, i can't help. |
| 21:51.41 | sussudio | stabs |
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| 21:51.50 | pickcoder | bpun: make one in Gimp and e-mail it |
| 21:51.52 | gravity | heh |
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| 21:52.04 | wat_ | does crossover games run as well as wine or better? |
| 21:52.05 | bpun | procrastinates too much when celebration cards are required in life |
| 21:52.14 | bpun | dam i hate last minutes |
| 21:52.15 | bpun | lol |
| 21:52.25 | kittonian | well the offer is open to anyone who can make it happen. $100 for getting courier-authlib and courier-imap/imap-ssl up and running against the existing vpopmail/qmail install |
| 21:52.29 | bolt | procrastination is king |
| 21:52.46 | bpun | pickcoder, it'll end up like stick figures :( |
| 21:52.58 | Lagaro | anyone have any ideas on why lspci isn't displaying any PCI devices? I think all the correct drivers are modprobed . . . |
| 21:53.03 | pickcoder | bpun: there are plenty of free artwork sites |
| 21:53.04 | simonrvn | kittonian: and no, i didn't say you weren't there, it was an idea... thinking you might not have heard of that channel. no need to get all pissy, dude. maybe you need to go outside for a bit and get some fresh eyes? |
| 21:53.08 | pickcoder | go grab a background and some icons |
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| 21:53.47 | bolt | just send the goatse guy? |
| 21:53.50 | kittonian | simon, sorry, I wasn't snapping at you, just frustrated |
| 21:53.55 | bpun | pickcoder, i'll just use google images.. grab some pooch and smack a few letters.. problem solved!! haha |
| 21:53.55 | streuner | kittonian: just follow what simonrv recommend you, and besides the folks (opensource) are usually pretty helpful without offering them bucks... |
| 21:54.03 | simonrvn | bpun: looking like stick figures but hand made, even in CGI, is better than some virus-ridden free bday card site. |
| 21:54.11 | pickcoder | bpun: bluemountain |
| 21:54.38 | simonrvn | bluemountain is probably the only one that isn't just random windows viruses ;p. |
| 21:54.42 | bpun | pickcoder, i know they used to be good.. now it's mandatory to put in money info.. |
| 21:54.52 | pickcoder | oh |
| 21:54.54 | simonrvn | oh, ick. |
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| 21:55.23 | bpun | plus i tried 2 other sites.. and they dam have bugs on them... |
| 21:55.26 | simonrvn | "grandma, why do you want a credit card? the better to track you with, m'dear." |
| 21:55.35 | bpun | might as well spend 10 dam bucks on a card... |
| 21:55.37 | bpun | lol |
| 21:55.57 | streuner | Arent there any prepaid-credit-cards in US? |
| 21:56.04 | at0m | hi, i've set up a PXE boot, but the pxe client returns "nbp is too big to fit in free base memory".. what can i do about that? |
| 21:56.05 | pickcoder | yup |
| 21:56.13 | jpinx | streuner: called debit cards |
| 21:56.15 | at0m | streuner, isnt that a contradictio in terminis? |
| 21:56.21 | pickcoder | some are reloadable, some aren't |
| 21:56.23 | simonrvn | i'm sure there are. they invented CCs after all ;). |
| 21:56.30 | antii | how come i cant connect to my MPD from gmpc? |
| 21:56.38 | pickcoder | Visa, MC, and Amex all have "gift cards" |
| 21:56.42 | simonrvn | antii: it's not running? |
| 21:56.47 | antii | simonrvn: yes it is |
| 21:56.57 | radekp | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/armel/alsa-utils/filelist |
| 21:57.06 | radekp | contains no python sources |
| 21:57.06 | streuner | simonrvn: hehe |
| 21:57.10 | simonrvn | is it the system one, or it's running as your user? |
| 21:57.15 | bolt | at0m: how large is the file you're trying to load, and how much memory do you have? |
| 21:57.28 | radekp | and alsa-utils tarbal has no python in it too |
| 21:57.30 | at0m | bolt, the machine has 2GB RAM |
| 21:57.32 | simonrvn | radekp: the build-deps, more than likely. |
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| 21:57.40 | streuner | yup |
| 21:57.40 | antii | simonrvn: asked me? |
| 21:57.50 | simonrvn | antii: yes sorry |
| 21:57.56 | at0m | bolt, and the file is... 8.6MB |
| 21:57.57 | antii | its as user |
| 21:58.02 | antii | i suppose i did right |
| 21:58.08 | simonrvn | antii: straced it? |
| 21:58.16 | antii | ? |
| 21:58.17 | antii | whats that |
| 21:58.21 | at0m | rw-r--r-- 2 root root 8.6M Apr 10 19:49 initrd.img-2.6.26-1-amd64_netboot |
| 21:58.24 | simonrvn | yeh, that's fine. |
| 21:58.43 | simonrvn | antii: strace mpd ~/.mpd.conf or whatever |
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| 21:58.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | kittonian, try _after_ having a good 12 hours of sleep :) |
| 21:58.51 | bolt | at0m: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nbp+too+large+base+memory&l=1 |
| 21:58.52 | bolt | :) |
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| 21:59.18 | Maior | well THAT took too bloody long |
| 21:59.28 | at0m | bolt, very nice, but that returns squat. hence my coming here |
| 21:59.33 | simonrvn | kittonian: that's ok. i understand. probably a good idea to take a break from it. :) |
| 21:59.41 | kittonian | CutMeOwnThroat: I hear you, but the reality is I can get it to compile but it keeps dying every second. |
| 21:59.42 | Maior | spent an age mucking around with various kernel parameters, to find that the path to salvation was to unload and reload my network card's module |
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| 21:59.47 | cwheeler | I need help getting dhcp working with comcast, i ran dhclient eth0 and dhcpdump -i eth0 and dhcpdump doesn't show any traffic |
| 21:59.54 | antii | simonrvn: cant fin that command |
| 22:00.01 | kittonian | unfortunately I can't take a break. we're moving to los angeles and I need access to my e-mail from an imap server |
| 22:00.01 | bolt | at0m: so you are trying to load the pxelinux file and all? |
| 22:00.17 | simonrvn | Maior: i find that helps with this board's funky acpi and the pci cards installed on it. |
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| 22:00.30 | kittonian | if I don't get this running, I have no access to e-mail for almost a month |
| 22:00.36 | simonrvn | kittonian: damn :/. i hate times like that. |
| 22:00.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | kittonian, compile what? |
| 22:00.47 | at0m | bolt, indeed, pxelinux.1 is linked to initrd.img-2.6.26-1-amd64_netboot, pxelinux.1 is the file in dhcpd.conf and in the root of my tftp share |
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| 22:00.56 | Maior | simonrvn: yeah, it was only when I got to the stage of "hey, lets add and remove random modules" that suddenly... |
| 22:01.02 | at0m | it finds the file, but complains its too big apparently |
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| 22:01.10 | kittonian | CutMeOwnThroat: I need to get Courier-Imap up and running against vPoPmail. |
| 22:01.14 | simonrvn | *ding* - it works! :) |
| 22:01.47 | kittonian | I have it running on the server that is local here but I got a linode so I could remake the server, move everything over and take my local servers down for the move |
| 22:01.54 | kittonian | this is literally the last piece of the puzzle |
| 22:01.57 | cilkay | I upgraded to Debian Lenny and have the 2.6.26-1-openvz-amd64 kernel running. When I attempt to vzctl enter 101, I'm told: Unable to open pty: No such file or directory I attempted to MAKEDEV pty but it aborts due to udev being active. How do I work around this? |
| 22:02.05 | kittonian | everything is up and running and I've been working non-stop since Monday on it |
| 22:02.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | kittonian, got that - but there's a courier-imap and courier-imap-ssl package in Debian... no vpopmail, though |
| 22:02.18 | simonrvn | kittonian: omfg |
| 22:02.26 | kittonian | vpopmail, qmail, spamassassin, etc. are all up and working just fine |
| 22:02.36 | kittonian | i only need to get courier imap up and running |
| 22:03.00 | at0m | bolt, so the dhcpd works, the tftp server sends the kernel to the client, but then it halts (or skips to grub for normal boot) |
| 22:03.11 | simonrvn | cilkay: try a `udevadm trigger` maybe |
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| 22:03.31 | simonrvn | cilkay: the box might lock up a few moments, but it should come back. |
| 22:03.36 | kittonian | but i can't use the deb packages, i have to install from source, because the courier people decided that not only were they going to make the system download and install exim4 but they also took out the authvchkpw module that connects to vpopmail. the only way you can get this working these days is straight from source |
| 22:03.38 | cilkay | Not familiar with that. I'll check it out. |
| 22:04.07 | simonrvn | cilkay: causes udev to re-scan the hardware. |
| 22:04.13 | cilkay | kittonian: Why make your life so difficult? There are packages for postfix and dovecot, which work just fine. |
| 22:04.37 | kittonian | cilkay: as far as I know, they can't use vpopmail's authentication |
| 22:04.42 | simonrvn | kittonian: why not get the source package and modify it? |
| 22:04.51 | Gnurdux | can someone help me with my sound? I am getting no sound output ever since i upgraded my kernel from 2.6.17 to 2.6.26 |
| 22:04.57 | cilkay | kittonian: So? Use some other auth mechanism. |
| 22:05.00 | simonrvn | then you have .debs to shove around. |
| 22:05.18 | indigoflux | kittonian: Dovecot supports vpopmail... |
| 22:05.23 | kittonian | simon, i'm not that good. not a coder, just a lowly sysadmin |
| 22:05.30 | cilkay | kittonian: You could have had LDAP auth working by this time :) |
| 22:05.31 | kittonian | Dovecot supports vpopmail? |
| 22:05.43 | kittonian | goes to look into that |
| 22:05.44 | indigoflux | kittonian: http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2004-March/003048.html |
| 22:05.58 | simonrvn | i'm not a coder too, and i do that on a fairly regular basis... |
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| 22:06.19 | pickcoder | http://wiki.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/VPopMail |
| 22:06.23 | pickcoder | from the dovecot conf |
| 22:06.38 | wat_ | im trying to install the nvidia video drivers but i always get an error :( |
| 22:06.48 | at0m | wat_, which error? |
| 22:06.56 | wat_ | if i remember correctly |
| 22:06.59 | wat_ | failed to build kernel module? |
| 22:07.20 | macman_ | guys |
| 22:07.24 | at0m | wat_, are you building the driver from nvidia's site? |
| 22:07.29 | wat_ | yes |
| 22:07.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | kittonian, modifying the source package is actually normally easier than building from scratch... source package makes it easy to get build-deps, patches fix some bugs (and you can easily throw them out if they are not useful to you) ... etc |
| 22:07.35 | macman_ | how can i sort some files and then find out how man mb's they are using ? |
| 22:07.44 | cilkay | simonrvn: udevadm trigger had no effect, and it didn't lock up the machine at all. |
| 22:07.51 | at0m | wat_, did you stop X? does your GCC version match? |
| 22:07.57 | wat_ | yes and no |
| 22:08.03 | simonrvn | cilkay: 'k. |
| 22:08.05 | wat_ | at the gcc version check just now i clicked no |
| 22:08.07 | wat_ | selected* |
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| 22:08.51 | chordogg | macman_: as far as getting how many mb's they are using...try the command du |
| 22:09.03 | christoz | greetings, i have this usb adapter, Bus 004 Device 002: ID 13b1:0020 Linksys WUSB54GC 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]. But cannot use it, any help about this issue? |
| 22:09.10 | simonrvn | macman_: sort in what way? |
| 22:09.11 | at0m | wat_, you can export GCC=GGC4.3 or whatever your kernel is built with. not sure on the syntax there, but google "export gcc" will help you |
| 22:09.12 | macman_ | du -sh * yes .. i want to sort them chordogg |
| 22:09.19 | streuner | !listvals rt73 |
| 22:09.20 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'rt73' by value (15 of 19): dwa110 ;; dwl-g122 ;; f5d7050 ;; g210h ;; lw053 ;; rt2501usb ;; rt2573 ;; rt2573 firmware ;; rt2671 ;; rt2671 firmware ;; rt73 ;; rt73usb ;; wua1340 ;; wusb54gc ;; wusb54gr. |
| 22:09.23 | wat_ | at0m how will that help? |
| 22:09.33 | at0m | wat_, that, and seeing which versions the builder mentions |
| 22:09.38 | macman_ | simonrvn--- alaphabetically |
| 22:09.42 | simonrvn | CC=gcc-4.3 |
| 22:09.49 | wat_ | at0m it says i need 4.3 but apparently im using 4.1 |
| 22:09.53 | streuner | Gnurdux: what kind of chipset? |
| 22:09.56 | wat_ | i have 4.3 installed though |
| 22:10.03 | simonrvn | CC=gcc-4.3 |
| 22:10.03 | Gnurdux | intel |
| 22:10.12 | Gnurdux | but weirdly, i just did alsaconf and it fixed it :O |
| 22:10.18 | wat_ | so what should i do? |
| 22:10.23 | streuner | christoz: /msg dpkg rt73 |
| 22:10.29 | simonrvn | probably loaded some extra modules... |
| 22:10.42 | streuner | Gnurdux: good work |
| 22:10.42 | at0m | wat_, as simonrvn says, export CC=gcc-4.3 |
| 22:10.52 | at0m | then build it again |
| 22:10.59 | christoz | streuner, thanks streuner , i'm on it |
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| 22:11.28 | at0m | wat_, you have different versions installed, and expoerting that changes your 'default' which will be used for the build |
| 22:11.59 | at0m | simonrvn, isnt it export GCC=gcc-4.3 ? |
| 22:12.05 | at0m | or is that the same |
| 22:12.08 | simonrvn | macman_: man sort |
| 22:12.30 | bolt | you don't really need to export anything. just put the variable assignment in front of whatever command you're running |
| 22:12.33 | simonrvn | at0m: yes, i was just correcting your GCC value ;). |
| 22:12.37 | bolt | not that it changes a lot of things, but useful anyway |
| 22:12.43 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 22:12.44 | wat_ | at0m i ran export CC=gcc-4.3 and there wasn't any confirmation that anything happened |
| 22:12.50 | at0m | wat_, voila |
| 22:12.56 | wat_ | so it worked? |
| 22:12.58 | at0m | wat_, then it's exported |
| 22:12.59 | at0m | yes |
| 22:13.04 | wat_ | how do i check? |
| 22:13.12 | simonrvn | wat_: printenv or echo $GCC |
| 22:13.26 | wat_ | echo gives me gcc-4 |
| 22:13.30 | simonrvn | (depending on your shell ;) |
| 22:13.40 | wat_ | so does printenv |
| 22:13.46 | wat_ | should i try installing again? |
| 22:13.54 | simonrvn | wat_: eh, do it again, but with double quotes around the value the gcc-4.3 part) |
| 22:14.02 | at0m | wat_, run export GCC=gcc-4.3 |
| 22:14.05 | wat_ | what? |
| 22:14.09 | simonrvn | s,the,(the, |
| 22:14.16 | at0m | GCC instead of CC |
| 22:14.17 | wat_ | ok now what at0m |
| 22:14.23 | wat_ | and simonrvn what does that mean? |
| 22:14.25 | simonrvn | export GCC="gcc-4.3" |
| 22:14.33 | at0m | then stop X, install it again, start X :) |
| 22:14.33 | wat_ | now what? |
| 22:14.37 | wat_ | sure |
| 22:14.38 | wat_ | brb |
| 22:14.50 | streuner | good luck |
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| 22:15.00 | simonrvn | gtg.. |
| 22:15.06 | at0m | bye simonrvn |
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| 22:16.12 | at0m | anyone happens to know of my PXE error? pxe client returns "nbp is too big to fit in free base memory" |
| 22:17.02 | cilkay | at0m: What do you plan to do once you PXE boot anyway? |
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| 22:17.40 | wat | still says im at 4.1 |
| 22:17.57 | at0m | cilkay, run diskless mythtv frontends? make the living room quiet? put PXE clients in other rooms? save watts? ... |
| 22:18.04 | at0m | hm |
| 22:18.12 | wat | to install the drivers im using this guide:http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ |
| 22:18.31 | at0m | wat, you need to export as *root* in the shell where you install the driver |
| 22:18.39 | cilkay | at0m: You might want to check out LTSP. |
| 22:18.43 | at0m | wat, Ctrl-Alt-1 and log in as root there |
| 22:18.56 | at0m | export there, stop X from there, install from there |
| 22:18.58 | wat | oh |
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| 22:19.12 | wat | can someone give me the commands one more time? |
| 22:19.22 | at0m | cilkay, cheers, will do |
| 22:19.33 | at0m | wat, export GCC="gcc-4.3" |
| 22:19.45 | wat | thanks |
| 22:20.39 | neosmatrix_ | hi, someone has a link for a debian install DVD/CD with kernel 2.6.28 included?? I havn't found one yet |
| 22:20.54 | kittonian | indigoflux: this thing really looks perfect if it works |
| 22:21.00 | kittonian | thanks so much for the link |
| 22:21.01 | streuner | check out testing d-i |
| 22:21.03 | cilkay | at0m: If you told me, "I plan to do hands-off installations." via PXE, I would have told you, "Check out Fedora Cobbler". I've only used it to provision Fedora machines but I've seen a HOWTO on the wiki for provisioning Debian/Ubuntu machines too. |
| 22:21.20 | indigoflux | kittonian: No problem, let's hope it works. :) |
| 22:21.31 | kittonian | indigoflux: fingers crossed |
| 22:21.31 | neosmatrix_ | streuner: thx I try |
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| 22:21.42 | wat | nope |
| 22:21.56 | at0m | cilkay, yea, unmodified ttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz also does that afaik |
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| 22:22.04 | at0m | s/ttp/http |
| 22:22.07 | streuner | neosmatrix_: there is kmuto as well (/msg dpkg kmuto) |
| 22:22.22 | cilkay | at0m: Not really. Cobbler is much more than just PXE booting. |
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| 22:22.43 | cilkay | at0m: I've been around the block a few times on PXE provisioning machines :) |
| 22:22.50 | at0m | :) |
| 22:22.50 | wat | at0m it didnt work :( |
| 22:22.57 | at0m | wat, what error? |
| 22:23.13 | wat | unable to build the nvidia kernel module |
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| 22:23.36 | at0m | wat, the installer makes a log. read it and return if needed |
| 22:23.59 | at0m | tail /var/log/nvidia-installer.log or so |
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| 22:24.44 | wat | http://fpaste.org/paste/8673 |
| 22:24.51 | loony | hello, do you know about computer ergonomics, in particular, what should my monitor settings be like and how do I config the system to minimize eye strain? |
| 22:25.27 | at0m | loony, CRT monitor? |
| 22:25.46 | loony | no LCD |
| 22:26.24 | maligor | unless you set it way too bright, that shouldn't be such a big issue with LCDs |
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| 22:27.12 | at0m | wat, ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid |
| 22:27.16 | at0m | wat, read under there |
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| 22:27.43 | wat | ok? |
| 22:28.16 | wat | how do i run that on kernel source at0m ? |
| 22:28.34 | at0m | wat, i dont know much of the kernel, just installed the driver couple of times myself and ran into similar export issues. that's all.. |
| 22:28.48 | wat | oh |
| 22:28.54 | at0m | wat, i suspect you need to install kernel headers or so |
| 22:28.56 | at0m | anyone else? |
| 22:28.58 | at0m | eh |
| 22:29.07 | wat | does anyone know how to run "make oldconfig && make prepare" on the kernel source |
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| 22:30.40 | wat | anyone? |
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| 22:30.52 | at0m | wat, good practice is to google that first. then if that doesnt return much or you have more questions, come back and ask |
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| 22:31.04 | cwheeler | I'm trying to get dhcp working with comcast any advice? |
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| 22:31.44 | at0m | wat, but your first resource is (apart from manuals for deb apps) your search engine! |
| 22:31.56 | wat | at0m its not helping |
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| 22:33.45 | antii | how do i add things to daemons in deb? |
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| 22:36.09 | Ryushin | Are there any known issues with hal_0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-1? Because it's totally borked my system. |
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| 22:36.42 | wat | whats that Ryushin |
| 22:37.46 | Ryushin | Well, libhal never finishes installing. It's postinstall script won't complete. Due to invoke-init hal start errors out. |
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| 22:38.39 | Ryushin | I'm running sid btw. I'll check the bug reports and see if anyone else is having this problem. |
| 22:38.54 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 22:39.02 | jetscreamer | sid is ALL messed up atm |
| 22:39.24 | jetscreamer | been a long time since it's been this fuxored |
| 22:39.43 | chordogg | anyone experiencing problems with alsaconf in testing? |
| 22:39.49 | at0m | only resorts to sid if he really needs some feature offered by a single package (or a couple) there |
| 22:39.50 | Ryushin | jetscreamer: Oh thank you! Might as well just put windows on it now. :( |
| 22:40.13 | jetscreamer | pats runnin 'non-upgraded' sid |
| 22:40.13 | at0m | Ryushin, if you run sid, you should at least know of bug reports etc |
| 22:40.32 | Ryushin | I've been running sid since 1999. Only ever had two times that it's been borked for me and fixes were quickly put into place for it. |
| 22:40.46 | jetscreamer | like i said, it's been a long time |
| 22:40.48 | Ryushin | Well, other sid users are here. |
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| 22:40.56 | at0m | Ryushin, restore your backup ;) |
| 22:41.37 | jetscreamer | so did you try --force-something |
| 22:41.37 | Ryushin | Well, I backed up last night. But I don't want to restore if I don't have to. I want to fix it. |
| 22:42.02 | Ryushin | No. I've forced removal though. |
| 22:42.14 | at0m | Ryushin, in 5mins you'll be back up and running then.. |
| 22:42.39 | wat | does anyone know how to run "make oldconfig && make prepare" on the kernel source |
| 22:42.42 | Ryushin | I've downloaded the last HAL package. I'm going to try and install that and see what happens. |
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| 22:42.58 | antii | hmm gnome terminal wont open links with iceweasel? |
| 22:42.59 | antii | why? |
| 22:43.04 | at0m | wat, you'll then at least need the kernel source, which i believe is in headers |
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| 22:43.20 | at0m | wat, did you read the nvidia doc on the installer? |
| 22:43.39 | wat | at0m can you link me to it |
| 22:43.43 | streuner | antii: there should be a thingie where you configure such issues... |
| 22:43.48 | Ryushin | wat: Just download your kernel from kernel.org and roll your own. I do. It's a great learning experience. |
| 22:43.50 | wat | i stayed home sick today so im a bit out of it |
| 22:43.53 | streuner | antii: in GNOME |
| 22:44.05 | wat | Ryushin im just trying to install the nvidia video drivers :| |
| 22:44.13 | Ryushin | Ick. |
| 22:44.18 | wat | and i have to run "make oldconfig && make prepare" on the kernel |
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| 22:44.41 | at0m | wat, it's probably about where you got the installer in the first place |
| 22:44.44 | Ryushin | Just download the current nvidia driver. Make sure you have the kernel headers and run the nvidia driver install ball. |
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| 22:44.52 | at0m | voila |
| 22:45.07 | tielk | how do I see what files a package will install? |
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| 22:45.25 | stew | tielk: apt-file list packagename |
| 22:45.28 | wat | Ryushin if i havent done that already, can you tell me how? im new to debian, but ive used fedora, opensuse, and ubuntu in the past |
| 22:45.30 | stew | tielk: (/msg dpkg apt-file) |
| 22:45.31 | tielk | thanks |
| 22:45.37 | jpinx | tielk: aptitude install -s <package> |
| 22:45.48 | Ryushin | Shoudl be identical to ubunu. |
| 22:45.57 | wat | its not at all |
| 22:46.07 | tielk | i did the -s jpinx but there were dependencies to download so it stopped |
| 22:46.08 | Ryushin | Find out what kernel your are running "uname -r" |
| 22:46.15 | wat | when you first install ubuntu, there is a popup that asks you if you want to install the restricted drivers, and it does it for you |
| 22:46.25 | wat | although my personal favorite was fedora 10, it worked great |
| 22:46.30 | stew | wat: what drivers are you trying to install? |
| 22:46.35 | nixfreak | with the new freebsd kernel for debian can you use pfsense now / |
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| 22:46.38 | jpinx | tielk: -s is simulate |
| 22:46.48 | wat | 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 22:47.05 | wat | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run |
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| 22:47.10 | jpinx | tielk: it shows you exactly what will happen when you do the real install |
| 22:47.20 | Ryushin | Okay run "dpkg -l "linux-image*2.6.26-1-686*" and give me the output. |
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| 22:47.26 | nixfreak | !freebsd |
| 22:47.26 | dpkg | i guess freebsd is NOT better than debian, and it is not worse. It is just different. See http://www.freebsd.org/. Admittedly one might be more interested in using FreeBSD as a server OS rather than as a desktop workstation. there exists debian gnu/kfreebsd, see #gnu-kbsd, or see http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ |
| 22:47.51 | wat | Ryushin how long should it take to run |
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| 22:47.57 | tielk | jpinx: yes, but it is stopping because there are dependcies to download and install. apt-file is exactly what i need |
| 22:48.00 | Ryushin | wat: a second or so. |
| 22:48.03 | wat | Ryushin i got > |
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| 22:48.29 | Ryushin | wat: Atually, do this: "apt-cache search "linux*2.6.26-1-686*" |
| 22:48.45 | wat | i got > |
| 22:49.03 | nixfreak | invite only |
| 22:49.10 | nixfreak | gnu-kbsd |
| 22:49.24 | at0m | nixfreak, tried knocking? |
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| 22:49.54 | Ryushin | wat: You are probably missing the following " |
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| 22:50.35 | wat | what? |
| 22:50.37 | Ryushin | wat: It should be: dpkg -l "linux-image*2.6.26-1-686*" |
| 22:50.42 | wat | oh |
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| 22:51.14 | wat | http://fpaste.org/paste/8678 |
| 22:51.56 | wat | Ryushin there is the output |
| 22:52.26 | at0m | jpinx, getting what you ment with the fedora pastebin now =] |
| 22:52.36 | Ryushin | wat: Now run: apt-cache search linux-headers-2. 2.6.26-13lenny |
| 22:52.45 | Ryushin | Does it show that it found it? |
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| 22:53.10 | Ryushin | That doesn't look right. |
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| 22:53.49 | Ryushin | wat: Run this instead: apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6.26-13lenny |
| 22:54.05 | wat | what happened Ryushin? |
| 22:54.08 | wat | from running that* |
| 22:54.19 | Ryushin | never mind. I see the problem. |
| 22:54.49 | Ryushin | Do apt-cache search "linux-headers*" and give me the output. |
| 22:55.20 | wat | Ryushin why are these drivers so hard to install in debian? |
| 22:55.38 | wat | http://fpaste.org/paste/8679 |
| 22:55.51 | Ryushin | They are not hard to install. But you are installing a binary package and that has to compile modules for the kernel. |
| 22:55.52 | nixfreak | how do I knock on a channel |
| 22:56.00 | wat | i see Ryushin |
| 22:56.05 | wat | nixfreak i think he was kiding lol |
| 22:56.05 | nixfreak | I can't invite myself |
| 22:56.11 | at0m | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.14 | wat | i think that was a metaphor of some sort |
| 22:56.17 | nixfreak | ok I thought he was |
| 22:56.29 | Ryushin | wat: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-1-all-i386 |
| 22:56.31 | wat | althouhg im not sur |
| 22:56.33 | wat | although* |
| 22:56.35 | wat | sure* |
| 22:56.36 | Ryushin | wait. |
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| 22:56.40 | at0m | nixfreak, /knock #channel |
| 22:56.50 | nixfreak | wow thats a new one to me |
| 22:56.53 | nixfreak | thanks at0m |
| 22:56.54 | wat | wow |
| 22:56.55 | Ryushin | wat: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 22:56.55 | wat | lmao |
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| 22:56.59 | wat | at0m you weren't joking |
| 22:57.06 | PiklesOnFire | hey at0m |
| 22:57.08 | wat | which one Ryushin |
| 22:57.15 | at0m | hoi PiklesOnFire |
| 22:57.30 | wat | Ryushin, |
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| 22:57.41 | wat | linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 is already the newest version. |
| 22:57.50 | Ryushin | Actually this will keep the headers matching your kernel: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-686 |
| 22:57.53 | nixfreak | nope doesn't work |
| 22:57.57 | Ryushin | I'm trying to do three things at once. |
| 22:58.07 | at0m | nixfreak, now they have to reply i think |
| 22:58.20 | at0m | never /knock'ed myself, but i heard of the command |
| 22:58.22 | at0m | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:58.39 | nixfreak | hm is this feature new on ircd's |
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| 22:58.55 | stew | nixfreak: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:58.57 | PiklesOnFire | nixfreak, /knock has been around for a while :] |
| 22:59.07 | at0m | "When successful KNOCK is issued, it sends a notice to channel operators." |
| 22:59.22 | wat | now what Ryushin |
| 22:59.29 | Ryushin | Did it install? |
| 22:59.34 | wat | yes |
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| 22:59.40 | stew | of which, there are probably none, since people tend not to stay opped, better just to /msg the ops |
| 23:00.03 | at0m | stew, if you know who they are :> |
| 23:00.05 | Ryushin | wat: Go to a directory where you want to store your nvidia binaries. |
| 23:00.16 | stew | at0m: if you din't, /msg chanserv access #chanel list |
| 23:00.32 | at0m | stew, cheers |
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| 23:00.58 | Ryushin | wat: now run: wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.44/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run |
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| 23:01.23 | wat | Ryushin without x running right? |
| 23:01.28 | Ryushin | Correct. |
| 23:01.35 | neal | I'm trying to subscribe to a list on alioth. I submitted my address via the web form, got the confirmation email, however, sending the confirmation email back results in a bounce: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<aptitude-devel-confirm+42...@lists.alioth.debian.org>: host lists.alioth.debian.org [217.196.43.134]: 550 Unrouteable address |
| 23:01.40 | eldowan | I had a removable usb device mounted, and umount would not let the device unmount saying the device was busy. Once I stopped FAM, I was able to remove the device. The device was *only* mounted in /media. How can I prevent this in the future? |
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| 23:01.50 | neal | Anyone know if alioth is having problems or whom I should contact? |
| 23:01.50 | antii | Why can't i open internet links with gnome-terminal??? |
| 23:01.51 | antii | got firefox |
| 23:01.58 | stew | neal: ask #alioth on irc.debian.org |
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| 23:02.22 | stew | eldowan: how was the device mounted? |
| 23:02.25 | neal | stew: thanks. |
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| 23:03.07 | eldowan | stew: fstab entry like so: /dev/disk/by-label/RANT /media/RANT vfat defaults,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 23:03.25 | stew | eldowan: and you mounted it by running "mount"? |
| 23:03.39 | stew | eldowan: or did something mount it for you? |
| 23:03.39 | eldowan | stew: correct, from the command line. mount /media/RANT |
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| 23:03.56 | at0m | eldowan, just LABEL=RANT /media/RANT vfat defaults,user,noauto 0 0 is enough in fstab |
| 23:04.08 | at0m | oh right that /dev/.. would also work, logically :) |
| 23:04.21 | stew | eldowan: i'd blame your desktop enviroment |
| 23:04.26 | eldowan | at0m: nice to know, wasn't aware of that little trick. |
| 23:04.34 | stew | eldowan: like, if you were running nautilus it would be the first thing I suspected |
| 23:04.35 | at0m | eldowan, same with UUID |
| 23:04.39 | Ryushin | wat: let me know when it's downloaded. |
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| 23:04.52 | eldowan | stew: hmm, that sucks. KDE3, gnome installed, but no gtk apps running |
| 23:04.54 | at0m | eldowan, bit cleaner :) |
| 23:04.58 | wat | Ryushin |
| 23:05.02 | wat | unable to build nvidia kernel module |
| 23:05.04 | wat | ugh |
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| 23:05.14 | Ryushin | What is is asking for? |
| 23:05.15 | TLF | hello |
| 23:05.19 | Ryushin | gcc? |
| 23:05.21 | stew | wat: what command are you running to build the nvidia kernel module? |
| 23:05.22 | antii | I installed rxvt-unicode on debian, but I dont get a gnome icon for it, anyway i can resolve this |
| 23:05.28 | TLF | can anyone recommend me a browser for X not iceweasel? |
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| 23:05.45 | dondelelcaro | TLF: any of the netkit ones are usable |
| 23:05.51 | dondelelcaro | s/net/web |
| 23:05.56 | wat | wait let me try again |
| 23:05.56 | eldowan | at0m: nice |
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| 23:06.08 | karmatronic | hi guys |
| 23:06.14 | at0m | TLF, links? konqueror? what desktop manager do you use? |
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| 23:06.20 | dondelelcaro | TLF: see midori, kazehakase, etc. |
| 23:06.23 | TLF | icewm :( |
| 23:06.29 | sepult | weird pinguins |
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| 23:07.18 | wat | Ryushin |
| 23:07.24 | wat | sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.23-pkg1.run |
| 23:07.26 | Ryushin | wat: Yea |
| 23:07.43 | eldowan | is there a way to limit where fam likes to go? |
| 23:07.50 | wat | thats the command im using Ryushin |
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| 23:08.07 | Adrian` | debian had some updates today huh? |
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| 23:08.12 | Ryushin | Try chmod 755 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.23-pkg1.run |
| 23:08.18 | Ryushin | then run it with ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.23-pkg1.run |
| 23:08.36 | Adrian` | you need to make it executable |
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| 23:08.59 | ryanCH | what do you guys think?.. http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Linux+Classic?content=102552 |
| 23:09.03 | TLF | appart from konqueror, which navigator uses webkit? |
| 23:09.09 | TLF | dondelelcaro? |
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| 23:09.48 | eldowan | TLF: I wasn't aware dondelelcaro was a navigator. |
| 23:09.57 | Adrian` | the linux classic is nice |
| 23:10.02 | TLF | eldowan: lol :) |
| 23:10.09 | wat | chmod 755 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run |
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| 23:10.28 | ryanCH | Adrian` :) |
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| 23:10.35 | Ryushin | wat: correct. That makes it executable. |
| 23:10.40 | stew | wat: you know, people deprecate using the nvidia installer |
| 23:10.42 | antirobotrobot | how do i find what package a file is in. i am missing gnu/stubs-32.h |
| 23:10.42 | Ryushin | Then run it with ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.23-pkg1.run |
| 23:10.45 | wat | Ryushin the file name is "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run" |
| 23:10.45 | Adrian` | i saved it. |
| 23:11.11 | stew | wat: do you have a good reason to use the nvidia installer instead of using the debian packages? |
| 23:11.13 | Ryushin | Oh okay. |
| 23:11.32 | Ryushin | chmod 755 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run; ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.44-pkg1.run |
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| 23:12.03 | ryanCH | stew: you can insall nvidia drivers with a package manager? |
| 23:12.16 | stew | ryanCH: yes |
| 23:13.04 | ryanCH | stew: and they are compatible with all cards? |
| 23:13.28 | stew | ryanCH: i have no idea, apt-cache show nvidia-glx |
| 23:13.41 | stew | and also mabye /msg dpkg why nvidia-installer sucks |
| 23:13.55 | eldowan | !tell ryanCH about nvidia one-liner |
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| 23:14.27 | wat | thanks Ryushin |
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| 23:14.39 | wat | its FINALLY INSTALLED after around 2-3 hours |
| 23:14.42 | Ryushin | wat: no problem. Now that wasn't so hard was it. |
| 23:15.12 | wat | Ryushin i forget whats the command to configure my video system? |
| 23:15.14 | wat | video settings* |
| 23:15.15 | stew | hope not, becuase now when he upgrades he'll have to do it again (since he didn't use the debian pacakges) |
| 23:15.35 | wat | stew |
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| 23:15.43 | wat | you mean i could have used a .deb this entire time? |
| 23:15.48 | Ryushin | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 23:16.11 | wat | Ryushin i meant nvidia-config something like that |
| 23:16.21 | wat | bash: nvidia-config: command not found |
| 23:16.33 | Ryushin | Oh, not sure. I only use nvidia cards in my mythtv boxes. |
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| 23:16.41 | Ryushin | I don't like using a binary driver. |
| 23:16.43 | stew | wat: yes, you could have been using debian packages |
| 23:16.52 | wat | are you kidding me |
| 23:16.54 | wat | link me to them |
| 23:17.06 | wat | found the nvidia-settings program |
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| 23:17.13 | stew | wat: enable the non-free repositories and "apt-cache search -n nvidia" |
| 23:17.21 | stew | wat: (/msg dpkg non-free) |
| 23:17.37 | stew | judd: info nvidia-glx |
| 23:17.38 | judd | stew: nvidia-glx (non-free/x11): is optional; Version: 173.14.09-5; Size: 7500.5k; Installed: 22240k -- NVIDIA binary Xorg driver |
| 23:17.54 | Ryushin | I guess I'm just old school. I compile my own kernel and download what I can form nivida. |
| 23:18.10 | Ryushin | Oh well, time to fix sid. |
| 23:18.21 | wat | i feel STUPID |
| 23:18.57 | Ryushin | wat: Why? You learned how to do something new. |
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| 23:19.15 | wat | Ryushin because the solution was so simple |
| 23:19.17 | Ryushin | You learned a few debian commands and such. |
| 23:19.20 | ryanCH | if you do the nvidia through the package manager, you don't get 3d acceleration |
| 23:19.53 | timahvo1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.07 | wat | ryanCH thats right because apt-get has the FREE drivers lmao |
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| 23:20.26 | Ryushin | wat: If what ryanCH says is true, then my way you get 3D. |
| 23:20.58 | wat | it is true |
| 23:21.16 | ryanCH | side note, without 3d accel. you don't get desktop effects ;p |
| 23:21.31 | Ryushin | Then be happy. You now know how to install the binary from nvidia and get 3d. |
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| 23:21.38 | eldowan | Ryushin: if you don't like binary drivers, which cards do you use then? |
| 23:21.50 | Ryushin | I use ATI. |
| 23:22.01 | stew | wat: ryanCH: no, i'm talking about the non-free drivers with 3d accelleration |
| 23:22.04 | rysiek|pl | hello |
| 23:22.06 | eldowan | Ryushin: aren't the ATI drivers still binary, even from the amd site? |
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| 23:22.30 | Ryushin | Yes. But there is the radeonHD and ati drivers that work now. |
| 23:23.09 | Ryushin | Plus ATI has been releasing a ton of documentation for them to make full open source drivers, and they are doing exactly that. Nvidia has in now way done anything to help devs right a open source driver. |
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| 23:23.42 | ryanCH | ATI has only recently begun supporting linux ;p |
| 23:23.50 | Ryushin | Plus my thinkpad has both ati and intel video built in. The intel video is actually quite good under linux. |
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| 23:24.05 | eldowan | Ryushin: Ooo very interesting. I wasn't aware of the working radeonHD. |
| 23:24.17 | Ryushin | ryanCH: Well, it's been about 18 months or so at this point. But we haven't had a decent driver for until about last summer. |
| 23:24.28 | klaz168 | Ryushin, Intel drivers still have issues |
| 23:24.30 | rysiek|pl | guys, since I see everyone dived into the 3d-on-linux topic... |
| 23:24.55 | rysiek|pl | ...anybody knows if it's actually doable to have Xinerama and XComposite both enabled at the same time? |
| 23:24.57 | wat | how would i run SteamInstall.msi with wine? |
| 23:25.00 | Ryushin | klaz168: Yes, yes they do. I have to compile the source for the Intel driver. But after I do that, I get very good 3d performance. |
| 23:25.06 | wat | its not working :( |
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| 23:25.34 | ryanCH | rysiek|pl: you should be able too |
| 23:25.40 | klaz168 | Ryushin, on your card maybe. :) |
| 23:25.59 | Ryushin | You'll want to install wine-panels or something like that. |
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| 23:26.46 | Ryushin | wat: you'll want to google playing games with wine. |
| 23:26.58 | klaz168 | wat, wine prog.exe |
| 23:27.04 | wat | sure |
| 23:27.08 | wat | but dont you mean .msi in this case? |
| 23:27.13 | wat | Ryushin im not new to linux just debian |
| 23:27.47 | klaz168 | wat, should work |
| 23:27.52 | wat | Ryushin ll wine-panels or something like that. |
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| 23:27.54 | wat | whoops |
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| 23:27.59 | wat | http://fpaste.org/paste/8685 |
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| 23:28.22 | bpun | wat, use debian's quick reference guide.. |
| 23:28.22 | Ryushin | wat: You may not be new to linux, but you have a large learning curve left to learn. No disrespect inteded. |
| 23:28.28 | wat | i know |
| 23:28.35 | rysiek|pl | ryanCH: hummm... Xorg.0.log tells me it's AOK and enabled; xdpyinfo tells me nothing about composite, though |
| 23:28.37 | bpun | wat, it has good commands like apt-cache policy |
| 23:28.41 | wat | yes |
| 23:28.59 | Ryushin | Well, I'm going to leave and go work on my borked sid. Good luck all. |
| 23:29.00 | sepult | it's called msiexec dude |
| 23:29.13 | klaz168 | wat, wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi |
| 23:29.24 | sepult | jep |
| 23:29.35 | bpun | klaz168, is wine at that stage of being able to do that/ |
| 23:29.48 | wat | thanks klaz168 |
| 23:29.56 | klaz168 | bpun, i guess |
| 23:29.59 | wat | now lets see if team fortress 2 can run in debian :P |
| 23:30.49 | bpun | remembers he last time tried wine like 5 years ago |
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| 23:31.06 | wat | remembers his last time trying wine 5 months ago |
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| 23:31.28 | bpun | gets drunk in real life occasionally |
| 23:31.48 | klaz168 | bpun, yeah been a while for me too, since my favorite windows games doesnt work on it lol |
| 23:31.48 | wat | ha |
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| 23:32.04 | wat | hmm where does wine usually install applications to? |
| 23:32.10 | antii | hello |
| 23:32.16 | antii | why are there no flashplugin on debian? |
| 23:32.36 | wat | ive been wanting to know that also |
| 23:32.43 | bpun | antii, if its not there u can download from adobe's site.. though it says ubuntu.. it works flawlessly |
| 23:33.05 | klaz168 | wat, ~/.wine/drive_c |
| 23:33.18 | klaz168 | probably |
| 23:33.42 | antii | bpun: rly? :) |
| 23:33.55 | bpun | btw, anyone is making use of this? flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound |
| 23:33.57 | stew | antii: there are multiple, gnash and swfdec are the free ones |
| 23:34.10 | antii | bpun: got the .deb package now, how do i install it? |
| 23:34.18 | stew | antii: or there is an installer if you want the non-free one |
| 23:34.25 | antii | stew: no? |
| 23:34.26 | antii | didnt find |
| 23:34.29 | stew | antii: you got a .deb package from where? |
| 23:34.38 | antii | adobe.com |
| 23:34.45 | stew | antii: i'd not recommend using that |
| 23:34.49 | stew | antii: what version of debian are you running? |
| 23:34.53 | antii | Lenny |
| 23:35.03 | stew | antii: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 23:35.04 | bpun | stew, is adobe's flash in non-free ? |
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| 23:35.23 | stew | bpun: no, but there is a flashplugin-nonfree in contrib |
| 23:35.28 | stew | bpun: (on bpo for lenny) |
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| 23:35.55 | bpun | stew, the one i get is flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound |
| 23:36.18 | bpun | stew, i dont see a flashplugin-nonfree on my system.. |
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| 23:36.45 | stew | judd: versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:36.47 | judd | stew: flashplugin-nonfree -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1 lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.5~bpo50+1 sid/contrib: 1:2.5 |
| 23:38.55 | bpun | thought backports are to be avoided after etch.. |
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| 23:39.06 | bpun | hmm |
| 23:39.17 | bpun | i always am a newbie to something lol |
| 23:39.50 | antii | ah |
| 23:39.51 | antii | now i got it |
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| 23:43.06 | ryanCH | how come i can't set my cursor with "xsetroot" ? |
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| 23:52.02 | minazo | I could not run "Lenny" on this computer because from what I could find out it (the kernel?) no longer supported my "ati video card drivers" ( video card info here: http://sial.org/pbot/35925 ) Also, I have updates that I need to install on Xubuntu 8.10 but I wonder if the updates will "break" the video card? It's working now. Does anyone know how I could find out if the *updates* (not a distro upgrade to 9.04) would break this ATI video card? |
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| 23:54.58 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !ls |
| 23:54.58 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 23:55.04 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | : ) |
| 23:55.34 | worr | wat |
| 23:56.02 | izua | !ls |
| 23:56.02 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 23:56.05 | izua | lol |
| 23:56.07 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lolz |
| 23:56.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lmfao |
| 23:56.13 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !windows |
| 23:56.13 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 23:56.14 | izua | this goes on bash |
| 23:56.16 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | ;) |
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| 23:57.42 | izua | hmm |
| 23:57.44 | izua | i wonder |
| 23:57.48 | izua | !shutdown -hP now |
| 23:57.53 | izua | nope. |
| 23:58.00 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol u shut the bot off |
| 23:58.01 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :P |
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| 23:59.30 | izua | i.. did.. huh? |
