| 00:00.11 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
| 00:00.28 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | ! |
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| 00:01.14 | izua | speaking of bash. http://www.bash.org/?806380 |
| 00:01.28 | adb | izua: asculta aici te rog : http://87.248.162.116:8000 sau 87.248.162.116:8000 |
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| 00:01.46 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | y bash? use cshell :P |
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| 00:04.53 | izua | err.. Vocea Basarabiei? |
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| 00:05.00 | adb | da ... |
| 00:05.07 | izua | si oameni care cautÄ vinovatul. heh.. |
| 00:05.18 | adb | heh |
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| 00:10.35 | Gryfelhase | is there a windowmanager, that don't move the windows to the top of the window-stack just because it gets the input-focus/cursor ? And where I can move the windows at this level of the z-index it has ? (without poping up to the front?) |
| 00:11.27 | ghang | what is the application name for capture screen image ? (windows as hypersnap) |
| 00:13.48 | n3kl | How can I tell what arch install I am running? |
| 00:13.57 | n3kl | Not just the kernel, but the install |
| 00:14.19 | azeem | n3kl: dpkg --print-installation-architecture |
| 00:14.22 | Gryfelhase | ghang: use a fucntion of gimp to make snapshots |
| 00:14.29 | n3kl | Sweet |
| 00:14.38 | n3kl | azeem: nice long flag. Thanks |
| 00:15.12 | ghang | Gryfelhase thanks but is it another solution ? |
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| 00:15.39 | n3kl | ghang: try import |
| 00:18.15 | ghang | import ? |
| 00:18.31 | n3kl | yeah, import filename.png |
| 00:19.16 | Gryfelhase | ghang: I didn't understood your question |
| 00:19.23 | n3kl | or import -window root file.png |
| 00:19.33 | Gryfelhase | (soory, no native english speaker) |
| 00:19.54 | ghang | erm , ok , i want a application like printscreen button ,can let me capture the desktop image but not a fullsize image as my desktop |
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| 00:20.02 | Gryfelhase | You can use gimp to make a screenshot (of a window) or the whoe desktop |
| 00:20.06 | Gryfelhase | whole |
| 00:20.15 | ghang | how ? |
| 00:20.27 | ghang | please let me know the tools name |
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| 00:20.44 | n3kl | import |
| 00:21.11 | joeytwiddle | yeah i use import, and then convert the resulting image |
| 00:21.26 | ghang | n3kl , i can't find the button |
| 00:21.34 | AcTiVaTe | import is from imagemagick I believe |
| 00:21.35 | n3kl | huh |
| 00:21.43 | n3kl | AcTiVaTe: I think yes |
| 00:22.07 | AcTiVaTe | But I would believe there is a screenshot app in gnome and also one in KDE. What are you using ghang? |
| 00:22.12 | n3kl | ghang: forget gimp, open a terminal, then type 'import -window root file.png' |
| 00:22.15 | n3kl | ghang: done |
| 00:23.10 | ghang | =_= ..........no terminal la ... |
| 00:23.38 | ghang | i mean, this kinda function should not use terminal to done , if use terminal why not i just press the printscreen button |
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| 00:24.05 | pitoow | i can set a password for the pidgin, using the pam file? |
| 00:24.09 | n3kl | so install ksnapshot or whatever its called and press the printscreen button |
| 00:24.27 | centHOGGr | hi, what are some other apache & php progs besides Wordpress, Gallery2 & rnews, thanks in advance |
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| 00:24.56 | AcTiVaTe | centHOGGr: http://www.opensourcecms.com/ have fun :P |
| 00:25.29 | centHOGGr | thx |
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| 00:26.14 | ghang | will try and see is it ksnapshot can use under gnome or not (i guess yes ) |
| 00:26.38 | tictac | AcTiVaTe: yo |
| 00:27.18 | tictac | yes import is in imagemagick |
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| 00:27.46 | ghang | ksnapshot is quite good for using , thanks, my probelm solve |
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| 00:28.16 | centHOGGr | AcTiVaTe: yeah really nice thank you :) |
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| 00:36.37 | infomomo | how to know what tty my copm port is on ??? |
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| 00:39.01 | Milosz | hey guys I'm having trouble packaging an app |
| 00:39.15 | Milosz | the problem is that it installs a binary into /usr/libexec |
| 00:39.19 | xerophyte | is gmail down? |
| 00:39.23 | Milosz | i specified usr/libexec in .dirs |
| 00:39.30 | Milosz | and the relevant file is also specified in .install |
| 00:39.37 | Milosz | but when I run dpkg-buildpkg, i get this: |
| 00:39.45 | Milosz | cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/libexec/youki-mlibman-bin': No such file or directory |
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| 00:39.53 | Milosz | sorry but I hope 1 line is ok :) |
| 00:40.02 | Milosz | in fact there is not even a tmp dir inside debian/ |
| 00:40.05 | Milosz | what could be the problem? |
| 00:40.18 | jpinx | xerophyte: no - I am getting gmail |
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| 00:41.36 | delaman | i have an error, "/etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full" how can i fix this |
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| 00:42.28 | Milosz | delaman, make space on where /var/lib/mysql is |
| 00:42.34 | LoRez | anybody know of a ushare package? |
| 00:42.49 | Milosz | delaman, if you don't know at all how to do it you could try apt-cache clean all as root, it should make some space if the system has been running for some time |
| 00:43.29 | cilkay | delaman: Are you using LVM? |
| 00:43.45 | delaman | cilkay: no |
| 00:43.52 | cilkay | too bad |
| 00:44.31 | cilkay | delaman: You could move mysql to another partition where you have room and change my.cnf, or you could use a symlink. |
| 00:44.58 | indigoflux | kittonian: Did your problem get fixed? |
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| 00:46.10 | delaman | cilkay: let me try a symlink |
| 00:47.02 | jpinx | judd: versions kde |
| 00:47.03 | judd | jpinx: kde -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 squeeze: 5:48 |
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| 01:07.19 | mischief6 | can anyone tell me where i can get a copy of older debian, with (possibly) vulnerable software? |
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| 01:10.30 | kurgon | When trying to compile a program, i get the following error: ./configure: line 1064: cannot create temp file for here document: No space left on device |
| 01:10.30 | kurgon | Then I notice: /dev/md1 9.7G 9.7G 0 100% / --- Problem is, /dev/md1 doesnt exist ? How do I fix this .. I didnt setup this box up.. please help :) |
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| 01:14.13 | abacas | The waiting involved when downloading Debian is killing me. :P |
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| 01:16.10 | adb | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 01:17.58 | revertTS | pulls in 550mb of updates from testing |
| 01:18.02 | revertTS | this should be fun... |
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| 01:18.42 | gaintsura | selinux.... fail... die |
| 01:19.17 | gaintsura | it would be nice for apt-get to tell me that it was going to remove the entire system when I removed selinux before I told it to do so instead of after |
| 01:20.53 | gaintsura | omg.. |
| 01:20.59 | gaintsura | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.41 | scyon | gaintsura: a recovery CD and chroot sounds like it may be in your future. (or backups, if you've got them). :( |
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| 01:22.03 | gaintsura | no backups... hadn't gotten to that point yet, what recovery cd? |
| 01:22.34 | scyon | gaintsura: any livecd or livedvd should work, I'd suggest knoppix if you like GUIs. |
| 01:22.53 | gaintsura | oi vey... |
| 01:22.55 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.02 | kurgon | how do i remove something i installed via dpkg ? |
| 01:23.23 | Milosz | knoppix is good no matter GUIs or no GUIs |
| 01:23.23 | kurgon | will apt-get remove work ? |
| 01:23.27 | scyon | I personally use sysresccd for such things, but it's typically on windows machines (don't have as many such failures on our debian servers). |
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| 01:24.23 | revertTS | kurgon: dpkg -r |
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| 01:28.30 | progenitus | Hi folks, is there a way to use Ubuntu packages in Debian? |
| 01:28.42 | progenitus | I need the Broadcom-wl package and I dont want to compile it -_- |
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| 01:29.49 | mischief6 | can anyone tell me where i can get a copy of older debian, with (possibly) vulnerable software? |
| 01:30.16 | shinnok | progenitus: just add the ubuntu reps or download the .deb and dpkg -i it |
| 01:30.27 | progenitus | thank you sir :D |
| 01:30.34 | LoRez | nobody has any clue where to find ushare packages? |
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| 01:31.22 | parsonsd | mischief6 : can't tell you where; i can tell you that old netinst CDs won't get etch. :^\ |
| 01:31.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | kurgon, yes it would ... but why didn't you just try it ... |
| 01:31.38 | kurgon | i did |
| 01:31.39 | kurgon | :) |
| 01:31.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | so why did you ask?! |
| 01:32.00 | kurgon | b/c i dont like to break stuff |
| 01:32.02 | kurgon | :) |
| 01:32.09 | kurgon | and i'm very careful as to what i do on linux |
| 01:32.13 | kurgon | especially a remote machine |
| 01:32.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | breaking stuff is not so bad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_eCIjr1Mb0 |
| 01:32.37 | progenitus | Does Debian use pm-utils ? |
| 01:32.52 | kurgon | lol CutMeOwnThroat |
| 01:33.03 | SQlvpapir | how do I make the compiler use multiple threads when compiling debian-style? Im compiling the kernel on amd64 and it is barely using a single core :/ |
| 01:33.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | wtf is pm-utils |
| 01:33.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell progenitus -about search |
| 01:33.26 | Phil4 | yes, progenitus |
| 01:33.38 | progenitus | Thanks. |
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| 01:34.20 | adb | SQlvpapir: concurrent =2 |
| 01:34.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | progenitus, also, in this case... apt-cache search pm-utils and dpkg -l pm-utils |
| 01:34.32 | mischief6 | parsonsd, you don't know any mirrors that maintain old images? :( |
| 01:34.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | (last one shows you if *you* have it installed) |
| 01:35.00 | parsonsd | mischief6 - sorry. i know as much as i do cos i started hunting for the same thing. |
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| 01:35.12 | adb | mischief6: but why need this ? |
| 01:35.30 | mischief6 | adb, PoC |
| 01:35.40 | parsonsd | adb, upgrade testing |
| 01:35.52 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.46 | ghang | is there any tools to chose and input special character ? |
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| 01:38.00 | cwheeler | I'm trying to get dhcp to work on comcast, dhclient doesn't get a lease, dhcpdump shows no traffic on the interface any ideas? |
| 01:38.21 | bpun | ghang, for x i think there's the scim tool .. to change keyboard maps or something |
| 01:38.22 | mischief6 | adb, proof of concept |
| 01:38.33 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 01:39.04 | ghang | bpun , can you give me some more tips ? |
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| 01:39.26 | SQlvpapir | adb: are you sure that is possible with make-kpkg? |
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| 01:40.14 | kogyaru | is there a debian security announce mailing list *for debian core*? (e.g. not userland packages, just kernel and the like) |
| 01:40.29 | kogyaru | or do kernel and the like also appear on the std debian security mailing list? |
| 01:40.35 | adb | SQlvpapir: try some doc |
| 01:40.40 | kogyaru | er, announcements regarding problems with such |
| 01:40.44 | bpun | ghang, if the package is installed... it should be addable with gnome add panel lists (rt click on panel) |
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| 01:41.17 | parsonsd | adb - thnx from me, too. |
| 01:41.29 | bpun | ghang, apt-cache search scim |
| 01:41.35 | parsonsd | adb, wish i could sarge, too, but if wishes were horses... ;) |
| 01:41.52 | ghang | bpun , i have scim but i can't find where to turn into special character input mode |
| 01:41.56 | bpun | ghang, after that u might be able to add it to the panel |
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| 01:42.45 | bpun | ghang, dpkg -l *scim* |
| 01:43.00 | bpun | ghang, what language input are u needing? |
| 01:43.02 | ghang | ooo ... i forget to say ,i am not looking for chinese or japanese input or etc, i am looking for input like math & â |
| 01:43.13 | bpun | ghang, look into latex |
| 01:43.18 | parsonsd | bpun - i want to thank you for helping me out with my obnoxious bind issue last week... turns out it was a leftover from a bug that existed from sarge on into last october that never got cleaned on my machine. |
| 01:43.18 | ghang | i am sorry i give a wrong msg |
| 01:43.20 | bpun | ghang, or postscript stuff |
| 01:43.43 | ghang | ok thanks bpun :D |
| 01:43.53 | ghang | i will research on that |
| 01:43.53 | adb | parsonsd: 3.x is for sarge, isn't it ? |
| 01:44.44 | bpun | parsonsd, i also read it can be a security issue too.. for some daemons can use the lookup name to return a message and use a lenghty x.x.x.x hostname as the return path |
| 01:45.05 | parsonsd | adb - i think 3.1 is etch; 3.0 is sarge |
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| 01:45.42 | kogyaru | hmm, perhaps using a filter with debian-security-announce is my only choice |
| 01:45.54 | bpun | parsonsd, probably 4.xxxx :) |
| 01:45.58 | bpun | parsonsd, lenny is 5 |
| 01:45.59 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.06 | parsonsd | oh, oops. |
| 01:46.17 | adb | wel 4.0 |
| 01:46.19 | parsonsd | well, very nice then. i can recreate work then :) |
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| 01:46.38 | parsonsd | bpun - rndc.key had the wrong ownership |
| 01:47.14 | kogyaru | ah, another question. bind 9, in this case. does debian have an auto-chroot setup for the bind9 package? |
| 01:47.15 | bpun | parsonsd, u can probably use that configuration safely.. but just see if the daemon would use the looked up name as a return path... which can be a security issue |
| 01:47.25 | kogyaru | it's a little bit of a hassle getting the chroot set up (i've already done it) |
| 01:47.39 | bpun | parsonsd, (daemon shouldn't use the looked up name as the return path) |
| 01:48.07 | parsonsd | kogyaru - i don't think so. |
| 01:48.23 | kogyaru | ah. freebsd does it by default, iirc |
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| 01:50.45 | parsonsd | bpun, that would be done with dig, rather than nslooup? |
| 01:50.51 | parsonsd | nslookup * |
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| 01:51.32 | parsonsd | ...not knowing how to perform that search |
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| 01:54.19 | bpun | dig, what search? |
| 01:54.23 | bpun | parsonsd, dig? |
| 01:55.22 | bpun | parsonsd, dig --help should show... if u want the non default resolver address from /etc/resolv.conf-- > dig @nameserver <lookupname> |
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| 01:55.33 | h3xis | would anyone happen to know why the buttons in metacity would suddently be spaced out from each other? i updated my system some days ago and just rebooted today to find them messed up |
| 01:56.47 | bpun | parsonsd, nslookup and dig can be given 'explicit' instructions not to use the default nameserver from /etc/resolv.conf ... resolv.conf doesn't even have to exist for nslookup or dig to work.. |
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| 01:58.01 | ryanCH | when you install video drivers, how do you know if they are working or not? |
| 01:58.22 | h3xis | ryanCH, what video card do you have? |
| 01:58.24 | parsonsd | bpun - should i be choosing a different nameserver, other than my little NS in my network? |
| 01:58.33 | ryanCH | h3xis, ati |
| 01:58.39 | teratoma | how do i make a deb out of a python package ? |
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| 01:58.53 | h3xis | ryanCH, are you using fglrx or the open source radeon drivers? |
| 01:59.05 | bpun | parsonsd, u already were... |
| 01:59.05 | ryanCH | h3xis, fglrx |
| 01:59.24 | bpun | parsonsd, that's why u used the forwarders.. if ur nameserver cant resolve an address. |
| 01:59.53 | ryanCH | h3xis, ever since i installed them, kde reports a kernel crash .. even though kde is running fine |
| 01:59.55 | bpun | parsonsd, it'll ask ur forwarders and ur nameserver will reply to the client (after what ur namerserver it gets from the forwarders) |
| 02:00.14 | parsonsd | bpun - i see what you mean. and my fw's were so i could still get a name that wasn't in my inside network.... |
| 02:00.20 | bpun | parsonsd, y |
| 02:00.23 | ryanCH | h3xis, it shows a kernel crash after startup of kde |
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| 02:00.58 | h3xis | ryanCH, okay. in a terminal run glxinfo and see what it says |
| 02:01.43 | parsonsd | bpun - k. cool. and thanks for the assist on it, figured it would be of some interest to know that the bind stop failing was a leftover bug |
| 02:01.45 | bpun | parsonsd, so the only thing dynamic is dhcp.. |
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| 02:02.06 | ryanCH | h3xis, it shows command not found |
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| 02:02.20 | h3xis | ryanCH, try running it as a super user? |
| 02:02.26 | ryanCH | i did |
| 02:02.29 | ryanCH | *both |
| 02:02.30 | bpun | parsonsd, which isnt a problem.. since the dns is 192.168.1.8... |
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| 02:02.49 | h3xis | ryanCH, okay, install mesa-utils |
| 02:02.52 | bpun | parsonsd, ur client machines dont need to have the forwarders.. |
| 02:02.57 | h3xis | ryanCH, then re-run it |
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| 02:03.28 | bpun | parsonsd, and ur isp connection... |
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| 02:03.43 | bpun | parsonsd, but i guess ur wan ip# barely changes... |
| 02:04.10 | ryanCH | h3xis, what am i looking for exactly? |
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| 02:04.12 | bpun | parsonsd, did u fix the /etc/resolv.conf not to be overwritten? |
| 02:04.55 | h3xis | ryanCH, youre looking to see if it's using the fglrx drivers. the answer to your original question |
| 02:05.23 | parsonsd | bpun - i think i put in the forwarder line so if i shutdown the 8.1 box (or the crappy UPS fails, which ever) i could have the box still locate the outside nameserver on the outside until NetworkManager replaced the resolv.conf. |
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| 02:05.59 | parsonsd | bpun - no and that has been annoying, since I can't seem to force NetworkManager to prefer a particular group of settings over another |
| 02:06.24 | bpun | parsonsd, i dont use networkmanager... i'm not used to it.. |
| 02:06.36 | ryanCH | h3xis, this is the output, http://pastebin.com/m5a0d9f4a |
| 02:06.45 | bpun | parsonsd, i just use the interfaces file ... and personally shutdown the networkmanager service completely.. |
| 02:06.46 | parsonsd | bpun - seems to be automatic install on a default lenny |
| 02:07.17 | bpun | parsonsd, networkmanager uses dbus.. seems that dbus is becoming more of the norm... |
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| 02:08.39 | h3xis | ryanCH, from the looks of it, you are using fglrx |
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| 02:09.18 | ryanCH | h3xis, why do i get a kernel crash report at start though, only after i installed them |
| 02:09.30 | parsonsd | that and avahi... i have to keep reading if i am to ever understand avahi |
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| 02:09.40 | h3xis | ryanCH, what's the report say exactly? do you have it? |
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| 02:10.10 | bpun | parsonsd, u were showing me the interfaces file... u can ask dhclient too not to ask for nameservers... i think disable dhclient to do this would prevent ur resolv.conf from being overwritten if u didnt fix it... |
| 02:10.32 | ryanCH | h3xis, could i see it, in dmesg? |
| 02:10.45 | bpun | goes off to fix some scripting |
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| 02:11.15 | h3xis | ryanCH, you can check. or in /var/log/syslog |
| 02:11.17 | parsonsd | bpun, according to the man page, networkmanager sources off of interfaces |
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| 02:11.23 | eggenz7 | is there any way i can use grub to bypass any hdparm settings on a hard drive? i used webmin to change setting and everything seems fine. did a system reboot now i get ata1: srst failed (errno=16) |
| 02:12.24 | Malf | Is there a way to get a list of all packages I previously marked as held in aptitude? |
| 02:12.37 | Malf | as it was long ago and I am rather forgetful... |
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| 02:13.13 | parsonsd | bpun- oh, i see what you're saying. the thing is, i want to have the resolv.conf swappd when the 8.1 server goes down so it uses the default route (which is still the default route, even when 8.1 is up; it's just that i want preferrential treatment for some traffic,like NS) |
| 02:13.32 | gaintsura | thinks it should be optional to install selinux or any of its libraries |
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| 02:13.58 | adb | who care |
| 02:14.02 | Nikke | where can i find unrar? |
| 02:14.18 | parsonsd | bpun, and put back when 8.1 comes up. |
| 02:14.26 | Nikke | Ahh |
| 02:14.28 | Nikke | unrar-free |
| 02:14.48 | adb | !unrar-free |
| 02:14.48 | dpkg | somebody said unrar-free was an unarchiver for <RAR> files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about <unrar> for 3.0). |
| 02:15.26 | bpun | parsonsd, preferential treatment is the local resolving always... |
| 02:15.44 | mischief6 | anyone know if i can get a full debian 3.1 image with jigdo? |
| 02:16.35 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r0/i386/ |
| 02:16.36 | eggenz7 | anybody know what selections i have for the hdparm command in grub? |
| 02:17.08 | bpun | parsonsd, u know why it's better to have the nameserver on anyways? |
| 02:17.29 | bpun | parsonsd, it'll keep a cache of looked up names.. and ur queries will be faster... |
| 02:18.14 | parsonsd | bpun, i woud have thought that leaving it in there would make the box look for the non-existant NS until timeout on each request. that's aweful slow on websites that ask fo a lot of different URLs |
| 02:18.25 | mischief6 | adb, only netboot and business card CD images are available there |
| 02:18.33 | mischief6 | i am wondering if jigdo will give me a full image |
| 02:18.41 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r0/i386/jigdo-cd/ |
| 02:19.07 | mischief6 | stop giving me hyperlinks! i know where the jigdo files are |
| 02:19.10 | parsonsd | mischief6 - i see it for 3.1r8 |
| 02:19.32 | bpun | parsonsd, ur nameserver doesn't look for anything on the internet... |
| 02:19.43 | bpun | parsonsd, only as far as the forwarder ip#s.. |
| 02:19.47 | mischief6 | ah, there is parsonsd |
| 02:20.00 | bpun | parsonsd, ur nameserver won't communicate with anything else on the internet |
| 02:20.24 | parsonsd | no but the client who references the nameserver will |
| 02:20.46 | parsonsd | mischief6 - here i am? |
| 02:20.53 | bpun | parsonsd, well u can show me the doc that says this.. then we can argue |
| 02:21.11 | mischief6 | parsonsd, i was saying, 'yes there are cd images there' |
| 02:21.40 | bpun | parsonsd, the ip#'s a webbrowser retrieves doesn't know anything about dns... |
| 02:22.50 | bpun | parsonsd, part of the webbrowser works as a dns client.. the rest u dont have to worry about.. |
| 02:23.51 | parsonsd | hrm. well, i can shutdown network manager |
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| 02:32.03 | SQlvpapir | adb: I had to prepend CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 |
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| 02:32.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | eggenz7, none, because hdparm is a standalone program and grub a bootloader? |
| 02:32.28 | abacas | j #yu-go-oh |
| 02:32.29 | SQlvpapir | or I am told that 1+n should be used where n is the number of actual cores |
| 02:32.52 | adb | was an example ... |
| 02:33.09 | eggenz7 | ok..how do i get around the ata1 SRST Failur (errno=0) problem? |
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| 02:33.44 | eggenz7 | oops..its errno=-16 |
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| 02:34.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | the things you can change in grub are the linux boot options that are here http://redsymbol.net/linux_boot_parameters/ |
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| 02:42.30 | gaintsura_ | when trying to boot from the debian install cd, would isolinux throw problems if there are lvm drives on a system? |
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| 02:42.52 | PiklesOnFire | gaintsura_, it shouldn't. |
| 02:42.53 | PiklesOnFire | why? |
| 02:43.00 | mib_woqknj | what's the reason that vmstat would show 0 context switches? |
| 02:43.17 | gaintsura_ | PiklesOnFire: first |
| 02:43.27 | baggend | A while ago, I noticed that bash is starting up new shells in my current working directory. Is this a configuration update somewhere or was it just bash itself that's been updated? (trying to replicate the behavior on my OSX laptop) |
| 02:43.33 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: uh... how are you running vmstat? |
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| 02:43.52 | mib_woqknj | dondelelcaro: just... `vmstat` |
| 02:43.56 | PiklesOnFire | gaintsura_, first what? |
| 02:44.52 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: the cs field has the average since the machine booted; assuming vmstat 2 1; displays more resonable values, you may be looking at a machine that has been suspended for a long time, or somthing else odd. |
| 02:45.11 | gaintsura_ | my db failed, trying to get that up, I was told to remove selinux, removing selinux destroyed my system, trying to recover, using the recovery console to try to fix it, isolinux throws prolems when my drives with lvm are plugged in |
| 02:45.38 | mib_woqknj | dondelelcaro: It's a server. 200 something day uptime, LA hovering around 15. No way the average across boot is 0. |
| 02:45.50 | PiklesOnFire | gaintsura_, what kinda of problems does it report? |
| 02:45.51 | cwheeler | where's the debian place for firewall rules? |
| 02:46.08 | dondelelcaro | cwheeler: depends on how you're loading them. There's no default. |
| 02:46.12 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: does vmstat 2 1; display more reasonable values? |
| 02:46.35 | mib_woqknj | Same output - with a different r, b |
| 02:46.50 | mib_woqknj | 0 interrupts, 0 context switches. |
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| 02:47.56 | gaintsura_ | Disk error 01, AX = 4257, drive EF |
| 02:47.58 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: what does /proc/stat say? |
| 02:48.07 | gaintsura_ | sorry PiklesOnFire trying to recover my server at the same time |
| 02:48.43 | PiklesOnFire | gaintsura_, no worries. |
| 02:48.44 | mib_woqknj | ctxt 73104362664 |
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| 02:48.52 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: and btime? |
| 02:48.59 | mib_woqknj | btime 1218128718 |
| 02:49.24 | gaintsura_ | in any event, when I have my drives with lvm setup plugged in while trying to get into the cd, I get that error above (Drive error) |
| 02:49.48 | cwheeler | I plan to run a script to load them |
| 02:49.57 | cwheeler | what other choices are there? |
| 02:49.59 | ryanCH | i setup the ati drivers .. but i'm not sure if it's exactly the right driver |
| 02:50.00 | gaintsura_ | my question... can I re-setup lvm as it was on those drives after re-installing |
| 02:50.14 | ryanCH | because X sometimes crashes at startup |
| 02:50.20 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: well, then cs should be outputing 33 or so; I've no idea why vmstat isn't behaving properly. |
| 02:50.45 | ryanCH | according to lspci - "Radeon X1300/X1550 Series" i installed the X1300 drivers |
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| 02:50.56 | ryanCH | i don't know if that is right or not |
| 02:51.13 | ryanCH | anyone think that's okay? |
| 02:51.18 | dondelelcaro | mib_woqknj: what does vmstat -V; output? what does which vmstat; output? what does dpkg -l procps; output? |
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| 02:56.56 | baggend | A while ago, I noticed that bash is starting up new shells in my current working directory. Is this a configuration update somewhere or was it just bash itself that's been updated? (trying to replicate the behavior on my OSX laptop) |
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| 02:58.19 | bpun | anyone knows how to reset stdout (exec?) ? |
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| 02:59.44 | dondelelcaro | baggend: after doing what? |
| 02:59.56 | dondelelcaro | bpun: reset in what way? |
| 03:00.14 | dondelelcaro | you mean reset the terminal? |
| 03:00.52 | bpun | dondelelcaro, was trying a script with exec... i went exec 1>&2 |
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| 03:01.03 | bpun | dondelelcaro, and then exec 1>&- |
| 03:01.10 | baggend | dondelelcaro: It's been a while, but I think it was after a dist-upgrade that I started seeing the behavior. I've gotten used to it on my Debian box, but my laptop opens all new shells in $HOME no matter what. |
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| 03:02.25 | dondelelcaro | baggend: new non-login shells always open in cwd.. |
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| 03:06.02 | bpun | dondelelcaro, do u remember the default to reset the stream to it's standard? is it exec 1>&- ? |
| 03:06.21 | bpun | dondelelcaro, just messing around with trivial stuff atm.. |
| 03:08.32 | dondelelcaro | bpun: if you duplicated a file descriptor, unless you duplicated the original, you can't get it back. |
| 03:08.39 | baggend | dondelelcaro: Hmm, it looks like OSX creates each new tab as a login shell. (shopt login_shell returns "on") |
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| 03:09.05 | baggend | dondelelcaro: So I guess I'll have to find a way to beat the terminal app into submission. Thanks. :) |
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| 03:10.07 | bpun | dondelelcaro, i believe fd starts from 3 and can up to 9... |
| 03:10.40 | bpun | dondelelcaro, righ now in an xterm box.. grep, ps commands like that show null output |
| 03:11.02 | dondelelcaro | bpun: they are just small, non-negative integers. |
| 03:11.09 | bpun | currently cant find online how i can possibly set stdout back to normal |
| 03:11.44 | bpun | dondelelcaro, except for the same document i'm reading.. which i hope i'm reading right |
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| 03:15.11 | dondelelcaro | bpun: looks like exec 1>&2; exec 2>&2; would do it |
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| 03:16.42 | bpun | dondelelcaro, that did the fix.. wondering why it's 1>&2 .. |
| 03:18.09 | bpun | dondelelcaro, so i guess for fd it would be to use <&- to close the fd.... i'm currently raping this document http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/io-redirection.html#REDIR1 |
| 03:20.25 | bpun | dondelelcaro, i guess closing for device 1 means not the same as resetting it... |
| 03:20.47 | bpun | dondelelcaro, do u have a better for this? |
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| 03:20.55 | tictac | do the etch repos still exist? |
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| 03:22.27 | tictac | nvm. |
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| 03:31.47 | mythomaniac | is there a reason why i'm getting interrupted connections with squeeze, but i didn't with lenny? |
| 03:32.38 | bpun | mythomaniac, squeeze aint' out... |
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| 03:32.53 | bpun | mythomaniac, are u 3 eyed and crazy? |
| 03:32.54 | mythomaniac | bpun, umm yeah it is, its called testing? |
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| 03:33.19 | gaintsura_ | I cannot install a kernel image during normal install, I've tried 4 different ones and they always fail. Any ideas? |
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| 03:35.47 | bpun | gaintsura_, apt-get -f install, apt-get install distupgrade |
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| 03:36.05 | gaintsura_ | bpun: love to, doing an installation from the start.. not on an already installed system |
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| 03:36.51 | gaintsura_ | syslog console says: Unexpected error: command not executed sh -c debconf-apt-progress --no-progress --logstderr -- apt-get -o APT::Install-Recommend=false -q -y --no-remove install installation-report |
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| 03:37.36 | bpun | gaintsura_, are u using debootstrap? |
| 03:37.57 | gaintsura_ | I'm using the network install small cds for lenny |
| 03:38.56 | bpun | gaintsura_, maybe it's set to query dhcp |
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| 03:39.08 | gaintsura_ | bpun: ....? |
| 03:39.39 | bpun | gaintsura, dunno.. i used the netinst cd.. |
| 03:39.48 | bpun | gaintsura, didnt seem to have an issue (i386) |
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| 03:40.08 | gaintsura | me either.. at least until now |
| 03:40.20 | bpun | gaintsura, did u run a verify of the cd-image? |
| 03:40.27 | gaintsura | yes |
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| 03:40.35 | gaintsura | from this system to that system straight up |
| 03:41.02 | gaintsura | aarrrrrrr |
| 03:41.28 | bpun | gaintsura, is this a text install? |
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| 03:41.54 | bpun | guesses that it is.. |
| 03:42.00 | gaintsura | gui |
| 03:42.09 | bpun | gaintsura, try the text-gui installer... |
| 03:42.17 | gaintsura | will do if this fails again |
| 03:42.34 | bpun | gaintsura, also do a cold boot |
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| 03:44.33 | bpun | gaintsura, there was a rumor that lenny may not install after good friday.. |
| 03:44.46 | gaintsura | heh |
| 03:44.49 | bpun | gaintsura, might be more than just a bug ;) |
| 03:44.57 | bpun | laughs like the devil |
| 03:44.59 | gaintsura | will find out shortly I suppose |
| 03:45.11 | gaintsura | doing an upgrade from etch to lenny worked though |
| 03:46.12 | gaintsura | will keep updated and let you know what happens in textmode |
| 03:46.32 | gaintsura | and to think... all of this because selinux wanted to be a nazi |
| 03:47.19 | bpun | gaintsura, oh selinux... |
| 03:47.30 | bpun | gaintsura, i thought u said the install now is a new install |
| 03:47.40 | gaintsura | yeah.. I removed it and it obliterated my install, now I'm reinstalling |
| 03:48.16 | gaintsura | I removed selinux because it was a bastard, selinux uninstalled about 300 packages, leaving my system dead in the water |
| 03:49.11 | bpun | gaintsura, why did u remove it if it'll break? |
| 03:49.21 | bpun | gaintsura, u dont need to remove selinux.. u can just disable it... |
| 03:49.35 | gaintsura | yeah... found that out afterwards.. |
| 03:49.42 | bpun | !selinux |
| 03:49.43 | dpkg | from memory, selinux is NSA's port to Linux of the FLASK security Architectur, called Security Enhanced Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. http://selinux.sourceforge.net/distros/debian.php3, or http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
| 03:49.56 | gaintsura | and I didn't know that removing selinux would be so detrimental to a system |
| 03:50.31 | gaintsura | now I know.. and I now think that selinux really is lame |
| 03:50.51 | bpun | gaintsura, if it was lame.. it wouldn't be there.. |
| 03:51.00 | bpun | gaintsura, selinux is good! |
| 03:51.12 | gaintsura | until it corrupted my database |
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| 03:53.02 | gaintsura | heh, the textmode doesnt even ask you what kernel you want to use, it just does it |
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| 03:54.15 | gaintsura | how would I reconfigure my lvm drives after install? I had 3 drives setup with an LV. |
| 03:54.18 | liable | if you set the debconf priority to low it does |
| 03:54.48 | gaintsura | ?? |
| 03:55.02 | liable | about the kernel. |
| 03:55.54 | gaintsura | oh |
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| 03:56.58 | gaintsura | well... its passed the kernel install.. so I'm in the clear except for my configurations being gone along with having to reconfigure lvm (and hope the data doesn't go toasty) |
| 03:58.26 | gaintsura | !standard-system |
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| 03:58.38 | gaintsura | !meta-packages |
| 03:58.40 | gaintsura | ... |
| 03:58.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | !msg the bot |
| 03:58.48 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
| 03:58.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
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| 04:00.12 | gaintsura | still nothing |
| 04:00.23 | gaintsura | looking for what is included in the 'standard-system' package |
| 04:00.50 | KC | how would I print a file from the command line? |
| 04:00.53 | dondelelcaro | gaintsura: there isn't such a thing; lvm drives should auto-configure in general. |
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| 04:00.56 | dondelelcaro | KC: lpr foofile; |
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| 04:02.26 | gaintsura | dondelelcaro: so when I plug them back in they should auto-reconfigure on a newly installed system? |
| 04:02.37 | dondelelcaro | gaintsura: yes |
| 04:02.45 | gaintsura | mk... |
| 04:03.12 | gaintsura | could anyone tell me what packages are included in the 'standard system' meta package at install time? |
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| 04:03.57 | dondelelcaro | gaintsura: there's no such thing |
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| 04:04.08 | gaintsura | yes there |
| 04:04.08 | gaintsura | is |
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| 04:04.42 | dondelelcaro | gaintsura: no, there isn't. There is a set of packages that form part of a standard system, which is all packages with priority standard and above, but there's no such thing as a standard system metapackage. |
| 04:04.43 | gaintsura | Choose Software to install (checkboxes): Desktop Env, Web Server, Print Server, DNS Server, File Server, Mail Server, SQL database, Laptop, Standard system |
| 04:04.56 | dondelelcaro | gaintsura: that's a task |
| 04:05.02 | enouf | gaintsura: ~$ dpkg-query -W -f='${Priority} \t${Package} \t${Status} \n' | grep -i standard | less |
| 04:05.06 | gaintsura | that would explain why I couldn't find it |
| 04:05.56 | enouf | gaintsura: alternatively; ~$ dpkg-query -W -f='${Priority} \t${Package} \t${Status} \n' | egrep -i 'standard|important|required' | sort -n | less |
| 04:06.30 | gaintsura | not useful at my standpoint, but thank you. |
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| 04:07.52 | enouf | if you ask tasksel for --task-packages standard you won't get any useful info |
| 04:08.17 | dondelelcaro | or grep-aptavail -FPriority --eregex '(standard|important|required)' -sPackage -n |
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| 04:08.43 | gaintsura | I think I've got an idea of what all is included |
| 04:08.46 | enouf | gaintsura: priority "important" and "required" are a must |
| 04:08.46 | dondelelcaro | (but in any event, it's not like it matters; install what you need) |
| 04:09.08 | dondelelcaro | enouf: not really; you only need things that are Essential: yes and their dependencies |
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| 04:09.22 | KC | How do I install debian over a wireless card? Intel 3945 (works fine, but has non free pieces) |
| 04:10.01 | dondelelcaro | (though you probably do want everything that is required and important, even if it isn't essential) |
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| 04:10.52 | path_ | KC, so what's your problem? |
| 04:11.06 | gaintsura | woo... reconfiguring my server... |
| 04:11.07 | path_ | grab some netinstall-iso and go ahead |
| 04:11.10 | gaintsura | farkin rar |
| 04:11.12 | gaintsura | rawrrrrrrrr |
| 04:11.33 | gaintsura | perhaps his wireless card isn't supported for the netinstall |
| 04:11.44 | KC | because the intel firware isn't on the netinstall disc |
| 04:11.48 | gaintsura | ^^ |
| 04:11.50 | path_ | :-) |
| 04:11.51 | gaintsura | then probably not |
| 04:11.53 | enouf | dondelelcaro: i thought you were the one that told me for a base system that important+required were essential .. i suppose one could do without certain pkgs, but even missing all in "standard" makes an install almost useless IMHO |
| 04:11.57 | KC | or the regular disc, as far as I know, needs non free firmware |
| 04:12.00 | gaintsura | you need to use an ethernet/hardware |
| 04:12.07 | gaintsura | hardwire* |
| 04:12.11 | path_ | or you need to hack the D-I |
| 04:12.18 | KC | yes, but my ethernet port is on the fritz |
| 04:12.24 | gaintsura | sol? |
| 04:12.31 | liable | KC: if you are using a lenny installer, it should ask for media with the firmware files on it, see the installation manual |
| 04:12.34 | gaintsura | never got far in the hacking of the DI |
| 04:13.05 | KC | and it'll connect to the wireless in the installer? |
| 04:13.26 | enouf | gaintsura: btw, aptitude has a way to list pkgs via 'priority' with much shorter syntax |
| 04:13.27 | KC | I've always used a kde tool for that |
| 04:13.28 | liable | KC: yes, not a WPA secured access point though, wep or open only |
| 04:13.40 | KC | I can open it for a few hours I guess |
| 04:13.43 | gaintsura | enouf: unless you're at install time |
| 04:13.43 | path_ | how come you broke your ethernet port enouf ? |
| 04:13.55 | enouf | gaintsura: what? |
| 04:14.03 | enouf | apt-get install aptitude |
| 04:14.16 | gaintsura | I had to re-install debian, it was during installation of the os I was asking that |
| 04:14.22 | enouf | path_: put down the pipe :-P |
| 04:14.29 | path_ | lol |
| 04:14.32 | gaintsura | never! |
| 04:14.35 | KC | dropped the notebook, grabbed it by the cord and I think i knocked the port loose |
| 04:15.18 | KC | I used to fix a ton of systems with the same problem, this one has stripped screws and can't be opened though, so I'm kinda stuck |
| 04:15.31 | path_ | hopefully only the port is fritz though the NIC is still alive |
| 04:15.38 | KC | yeah |
| 04:15.45 | KC | it'll work if you hold it in place |
| 04:15.52 | KC | but not long enough to do an install |
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| 04:16.19 | KC | I could resolder it, or just replace the port, but i screwed up the screws |
| 04:16.24 | path_ | do you have any flash drive ? |
| 04:16.31 | KC | need a jewlers drill to get them out now, and that I don't have |
| 04:16.33 | enouf | gaintsura: IIRC, anna and udpkg are the available install tools, but alt-f2 should give you a shell you can install things from if net is up |
| 04:16.42 | KC | erm... somewhere |
| 04:16.55 | KC | what you describe should work though |
| 04:16.56 | path_ | you might want to download the firmware and just install debian without using repository |
| 04:17.13 | path_ | download the .deb && dpkg them |
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| 04:17.25 | enouf | sends KC a drill press .. |
| 04:17.29 | KC | does that actually work now? When I tried it back in 3.0 it bitched until i finally hooked up to the net |
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| 04:17.54 | path_ | I've installed a standard system without having access to internet |
| 04:17.57 | KC | hrm |
| 04:17.58 | path_ | using the netinst |
| 04:18.11 | KC | I suppose I could manually screw with sources now though |
| 04:18.17 | path_ | yup |
| 04:18.17 | BoredK | how can I list all of the open file handles processes are running? I forgot the command. has "ls" in it I think |
| 04:18.20 | enouf | no comprehende amigo |
| 04:18.36 | enouf | lsof |
| 04:18.37 | KC | I didn't know enough to change my repo settings back then |
| 04:18.46 | KC | yeah, that should work |
| 04:18.59 | enouf | BoredK: lsof |
| 04:19.07 | BoredK | yeah, thanks |
| 04:19.59 | gaintsura | O.o since when did ssh start outputting 'random art' from generating a key? |
| 04:20.01 | enouf | BoredK: fuser is also useful for certain things |
| 04:20.27 | path_ | haha |
| 04:20.36 | BoredK | I just need to track active static file downloads with lighttpd |
| 04:20.37 | enouf | path_: tell gaintsura to put down the pipe |
| 04:20.43 | BoredK | lsof with a few greps will do |
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| 04:20.55 | path_ | gaintsura, put down the pipe you've been warned |
| 04:20.58 | path_ | :] |
| 04:20.59 | KISS4EVER | hello |
| 04:21.23 | KISS4EVER | i need help with c |
| 04:21.31 | enouf | ,,, and slowly step away from the keyboard |
| 04:21.50 | path_ | he might want to warm up his keyboard |
| 04:22.01 | gaintsura | no dude... seriously... |
| 04:22.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | "the pipe"... ahem |
| 04:22.13 | liable | KISS4EVER: best to check out ##C then |
| 04:22.53 | gaintsura | it said the random art output of this key is: and then a 12x20 char output of ascii art |
| 04:23.06 | KISS4EVER | no, there they are blind |
| 04:23.31 | enouf | what's wrong with being blind? |
| 04:24.01 | path_ | maybe you should join #C++ they will love you |
| 04:24.09 | enouf | gaintsura: paste it somewhere |
| 04:24.36 | path_ | gaintsura, there are some scripts doing it |
| 04:24.49 | path_ | but per default would be weird |
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| 04:29.11 | KISS4EVER | #C++ really exist, when i enter there tellme ##overflow |
| 04:29.11 | enouf | dondelelcaro: btw .. your command of "grep-aptavail -FPriority --eregex '(standard|important|required)' -sPackage -n" would presume that grep-dctrl and dctrl-tools are installed, IINM ... isn't dpkg-query more likely to be present during installation? if not, ok |
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| 04:29.52 | enouf | !nickometer KISS4EVER |
| 04:29.53 | dpkg | 'KISS4EVER' is 99.880% lame, enouf |
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| 04:30.11 | krisfremen | rofl |
| 04:30.15 | enouf | dpkg: thank you |
| 04:30.15 | dpkg | gern geschehen, enouf |
| 04:30.25 | KISS4EVER | :S |
| 04:30.27 | KISS4EVER | :s |
| 04:30.51 | darkbulb | can someone point me to a list of updated debian jigdo mirrors - the ones contained for the US in jigdo lite seem to be either a not available or b have broken copies of the second dvd |
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| 04:31.50 | enouf | darkbulb: ask perhaps in debian-devel on irc.debian.org .. |
| 04:31.52 | stew | KISS4EVER: you must be registered to join ##c++ |
| 04:32.58 | enouf | stew: and "Identified" i presume ...or .. |
| 04:33.08 | stew | yes |
| 04:33.15 | enouf | ok |
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| 04:35.29 | KISS4EVER | oh |
| 04:35.47 | path_ | roflmao |
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| 04:36.15 | stew | KISS4EVER: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup |
| 04:36.28 | gaintsura | enouf: let me see if I can get it to generate another one |
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| 04:37.48 | GhostlyDeath | Is there is a way to see what symbols are defined and referenced in object files created by GCC? |
| 04:38.09 | path_ | through gdb |
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| 04:39.14 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: er objdump? |
| 04:39.52 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: readelf can also be handy .. depending on what you need |
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| 04:40.20 | GhostlyDeath | hmm, readelf is easier |
| 04:40.52 | gaintsura | http://chriswalker.elementfx.com/images/RSAArt.png |
| 04:41.04 | GhostlyDeath | thanks |
| 04:41.31 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: only hardened windows users like "easy" :-P |
| 04:41.49 | GhostlyDeath | hmm |
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| 04:41.56 | gaintsura | enouf: ^^ |
| 04:42.03 | GhostlyDeath | Know if readelf can decorate those functions some more? |
| 04:44.02 | enouf | starts placing hidden ornaments all throughout GhostlyDeath 's christmas tree |
| 04:44.40 | enouf | gaintsura: yes .. i like nude women as well ;-) |
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| 04:45.03 | gaintsura | rofl |
| 04:45.10 | gaintsura | thats my wife |
| 04:45.11 | gaintsura | =D |
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| 04:47.24 | brand0con | when I apt-get install a package that I already have, the terminal tells me about 70 packages, most of which i use, are no longer required and can be auto-removed |
| 04:47.36 | brand0con | how can i get these off the list other than removing them and reinstalling |
| 04:48.53 | brand0con | it did this to me once before and removed gdm and other packages after a careless autoremove |
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| 05:03.13 | joelsolanki | Hi all |
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| 05:04.10 | joelsolanki | i have a linux server with 2 different public ips. so 1 ip is primary and 2nd is alias means eth0:0 |
| 05:04.32 | joelsolanki | i know i can use ping -I eth0:0 to choose the source ip to ping. |
| 05:04.38 | joelsolanki | but how can i do this same for telnet ? |
| 05:04.52 | joelsolanki | i googled but it says it will take the primary ip. |
| 05:05.11 | joelsolanki | is there a chance to tell telnet to use 2nd aliased IP ? |
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| 05:07.44 | joelsolanki | possible ? |
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| 05:08.07 | gaintsura | ok... so I've plugged my LV drives back in, and the system did not automatically recognize they were there... how can I get them back up and running (with all data intact)? |
| 05:08.49 | ryanCH_ | i can install ati drivers over an existing one, right? |
| 05:10.02 | tictac | bah wtf. now my usb keyboard doesnt work cause udev isnt running. |
| 05:10.48 | gaintsura | ryanCH_: generally better to uninstall and reinstall |
| 05:10.53 | gaintsura | restart udev tictac |
| 05:11.49 | ryanCH_ | gaintsura: according to "lspci" i have a "radeon x1300/x1500" witch one do i choose? |
| 05:11.52 | stew | gaintsura: hmm. i'm not sure. did you try the pvscan? |
| 05:12.08 | ryanCH_ | *which |
| 05:12.17 | tictac | gaintsura: udev doesnt work on my 2.6.8 kernel... |
| 05:12.30 | gaintsura | stew: yeah.. http://pastie.org/443541 |
| 05:12.38 | gaintsura | O.o |
| 05:12.42 | gaintsura | uhm.. x1300? |
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| 05:12.51 | gaintsura | what are you supposed to have in there |
| 05:13.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | "over an existing one"? |
| 05:13.15 | ryanCH_ | i installed, x1300 and the driver is unstable *very ;p |
| 05:13.24 | gaintsura | then x1500 |
| 05:13.28 | stew | gaintsura: no, that's the vgchange, not pvscan |
| 05:14.01 | gaintsura | sorry http://pastie.org/443543 |
| 05:14.32 | tictac | if only xorg would "automagickally" detect my damn 1680x1050 resolution then i wouldnt have to install sarge, then upgrade to etch and then finally to lenny. augh. |
| 05:14.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | doh |
| 05:14.50 | stew | gaintsura: ok, i'm guessing, but it loks to me like only 2 of the 3 pvs are there? |
| 05:14.51 | ryanCH_ | gaintsura: the only one i can find on ATI is "x550" |
| 05:14.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | joelsolanki's already gone |
| 05:14.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | always the same |
| 05:15.03 | stew | gaintsura: i'm guessing that by the "PV unknown device VG storage lvm2" ? |
| 05:15.08 | gaintsura | yeah... |
| 05:15.11 | ryanCH_ | gaintsura: the other that lspci shows is "x1550" |
| 05:15.21 | gaintsura | let me double check how many hwinfo is showing |
| 05:15.39 | tictac | what does Begin: Waiting for root file system... ... mean? |
| 05:15.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | waited "a full 4 minutes" bah |
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| 05:16.39 | gaintsura | bah, thanks for helping me figure that out stew, need to figure out which one it is... |
| 05:16.44 | gaintsura | oh.. duh.. |
| 05:16.46 | gaintsura | brb |
| 05:16.59 | stew | forgot a power cable? :) |
| 05:17.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 05:17.51 | gaintsura | I unpluged my lvm drives because the installer was giving me shit... I plugged all of them back in except one, because its not in the same spot as the others |
| 05:17.54 | gaintsura | ide cable |
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| 05:19.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | can I backport miro from unstable to lenny? it seems to be using a different libc |
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| 05:20.11 | stew | judd: build-dep miro --release sid |
| 05:20.11 | judd | stew: miro -- BuildDepends: cdbs (>= 0.4.43), debhelper (>= 5.0.37.2), python2.5 (>= 2.5.2-6), python-support (>= 0.6), python-pyrex (>= 0.9.6.4), libboost-python1.37-dev, libboost-filesystem1.37-dev, libboost-date-time1.37-dev, libboost-thread1.37-dev, libboost-serialization1.37-dev, libtorrent-rasterbar-dev (>= 0.14.2), python-gtk2-dev, python-gnome2-extras-dev (>= 2.19.1), xulrunner-dev, libxine-dev (>= (1 more message) |
| 05:20.33 | stew | judd: versions libboost-python1.37-dev |
| 05:20.33 | judd | stew: libboost-python1.37-dev -- sid: 1.37.0-8 squeeze: 1.37.0-8 |
| 05:20.43 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: so you'd also have to backport boost |
| 05:20.47 | stew | judd: more |
| 05:20.48 | judd | stew: 1.1.12), pkg-config, libxv-dev, libssl-dev, libffi-dev |
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| 05:21.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | what about the others |
| 05:22.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, nearly all belong to libboost |
| 05:22.26 | stew | judd: versions libtorrent-rasterbar-dev |
| 05:22.28 | judd | stew: libtorrent-rasterbar-dev -- lenny: 0.13.1-2 squeeze: 0.13.1-2 sid: 0.14.2-2+b1 |
| 05:22.31 | stew | and that |
| 05:22.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions python-gnome2-extras-dev |
| 05:22.57 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: python-gnome2-extras-dev -- etch: 2.14.3-1 sid: 2.19.1-3 lenny: 2.19.1-3.1 sid: 2.19.1-3.1 sid: 2.25.3-1 squeeze: 2.25.3-1 |
| 05:23.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, sounds like fun |
| 05:23.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | why is it using a different libc version anyway? |
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| 05:24.13 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: becuase it was compiled on a machine with a newer libc6-dev |
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| 05:24.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'd probably not have any problem mixing it in but for libc... because with that I don't feel I can judge the consequences |
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| 05:24.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, so that can vary from maintainer to maintainer? |
| 05:25.53 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: well the maintainer only uploads one arch then the bulidds build the other uhh what are we up to? 13? arches |
| 05:26.13 | stew | so only 1 of the 14 arches is built by the maintainer |
| 05:26.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, perhaps that is it |
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| 05:26.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | can't remember what it was now, but I took in one other package from unstable and it didn't pull *anything* in |
| 05:26.59 | stew | (and you'd expect the maintainer to be compiling against whatever libc6-dev is current in sid) |
| 05:27.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | (well, and picard, but there it's not surprising) |
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| 05:27.37 | stew | CutMeOwnThroat: well things that were uploaded after lenny but before a new glibc were uploaded would have the same libc as lenny |
| 05:27.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, yes |
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| 05:28.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, I remember what it was... yes that definitely depended on libc6.. |
| 05:29.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, must be as you say |
| 05:29.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | what a pity that a new libc6 went so quickly into sid then |
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| 05:30.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | thanks, didn't know judd could show build-dependencies :) |
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| 05:31.05 | mac123 | hi today i mounted a 2nd HDD but i am unable to write anything on the HDD it gives me error Read-only file system |
| 05:31.05 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | mount /disk -o remount,rw |
| 05:31.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 05:31.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | is it ntfs? |
| 05:32.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | huhu? |
| 05:33.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | !ntfs-3g |
| 05:33.02 | dpkg | ntfs-3g is probably a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. It is available in Lenny, or through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org> for instructions and see http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g). Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 05:33.07 | mac123 | ext3 |
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| 05:33.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, then remounting it should be ok |
| 05:33.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | weird enough that it wasn't mounted rw anyway |
| 05:33.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | how did you mount it? |
| 05:33.58 | mac123 | mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /home/speedracer |
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| 05:34.39 | mac123 | its not even showing in fdisk -l |
| 05:34.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | look in /var/log/messages for errors/warnings/messages on mount... specially if remounting as rw doesn't work |
| 05:34.46 | mac123 | but i can see it inm df -h |
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| 05:35.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | and 'mount | grep speedracer' says? |
| 05:36.19 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.44 | mac123 | i followed this tut http://linux.justinhartman.com/Installing_a_second_hard_drive |
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| 05:37.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, check /var/log/messages |
| 05:37.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | and/or dmesg |less |
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| 05:38.26 | Linkas | i trying mount /dev/mmcblk0p3 but i get |
| 05:38.27 | Linkas | debian-gta02:~# mount /dev/mmcblk0p3 |
| 05:38.27 | Linkas | mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist |
| 05:38.39 | Linkas | what is wrong? |
| 05:38.44 | mac123 | i just tired to format it again i get this now |
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| 05:39.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | Linkas, exactly what the error tells you... |
| 05:39.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | Linkas, mkdir /media/disk |
| 05:39.40 | Linkas | CutMeOwnThroat:i'll try :) |
| 05:39.42 | mac123 | this is from http://paste2.org/p/181840 tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 05:40.18 | mac123 | and cfdisk /dev/sdb1 gives FATAL ERROR: Cannot read disk drive |
| 05:40.18 | mac123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:40.45 | Linkas | it works, thanks CutMeOwnThroat for fast advice |
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| 05:40.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | mac123, perhaps the disk is not plugged in correctly? |
| 05:40.59 | n-iCe | Does anybody ever stream live video using Debian?? |
| 05:41.41 | mac123 | it was working fine i even put vnc and mounted it now its dead :( |
| 05:42.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | mac123, that part of messages doesn't say anything useful |
| 05:43.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | !anybody use Debian for streaming videos |
| 05:43.01 | dpkg | No, no one uses Debian for streaming videos, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:43.15 | mac123 | yeah even this is not working fdisk /dev/sdb |
| 05:43.15 | mac123 | Unable to read /dev/sdb |
| 05:43.17 | n-iCe | lol |
| 05:43.29 | n-iCe | !anybody likes CutMeOwnThroat |
| 05:43.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | thank you, dpkg... you really know everything :) |
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| 05:43.36 | n-iCe | >.< |
| 05:43.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pal n-iCe |
| 05:43.42 | dpkg | points at n-iCe and laughs uproariously |
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| 05:44.33 | n-iCe | :> |
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| 05:46.29 | cheeeese | how do i listen on a port on my shell to redir the connection to any web requests (not specific ones) |
| 05:47.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | wonders if he chose that nick while being photographed... |
| 05:48.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | netcat -p 80 -l |
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| 05:48.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | sets down 5 mice and sees cheeeese panick |
| 05:48.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/$k// |
| 05:49.03 | zeeble | heh |
| 05:49.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/k$// |
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| 05:49.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, he got eaten |
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| 05:50.26 | cheeeese | erm CutMeOwnThroat, i tried that and inputted the IP and port into the browser settings but it doesnt work |
| 05:51.05 | cheeeese | i get the http reply in the shell instead |
| 05:51.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | you get the request from the browser |
| 05:51.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | what else would you get |
| 05:52.02 | n-iCe | how can I know if I use lenny or squeeze |
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| 05:52.14 | cheeeese | but how do i make it such a way that i can browse the internet using the shell's IP |
| 05:52.15 | cheeeese | and not mine |
| 05:52.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 05:52.40 | n-iCe | thanks |
| 05:52.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | run a proxy |
| 05:52.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, of course, nothing is 100% sure |
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| 05:53.14 | cheeeese | CutMeOwnThroat, i tried tons of proxy but all of them requires a destination host and port |
| 05:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, e.g. some Debian derivatives don't care to change /etc/debian_version |
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| 05:53.30 | cheeeese | i cant possible be putting every single links that i want to browse to |
| 05:53.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | cheeeese, pardon? |
| 05:53.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | no proxy needs that |
| 05:53.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | and a proxy doesn't really run "in a shell" |
| 05:53.55 | cheeeese | CutMeOwnThroat, what do you recommend? |
| 05:54.21 | cheeeese | CutMeOwnThroat, it should be just some app that listens on a port and address |
| 05:54.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | apt-cache search proxy --names-only |
| 05:54.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | take your pick :0 |
| 05:54.35 | cheeeese | and i add that address and port to the network settings |
| 05:54.42 | cheeeese | CutMeOwnThroat, already did so |
| 05:54.49 | cheeeese | all of them requires a destination host and port |
| 05:55.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | I used internet junkbuster - which is not in Debian anymore - I think privoxy replaces it |
| 05:55.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, and the browser supplies those... |
| 05:55.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | else it wouldn't be a proxy |
| 05:55.26 | n-iCe | I have a mess with my sources.list |
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| 05:55.39 | cheeeese | CutMeOwnThroat, isnt there a simple way of doing? |
| 05:55.54 | cheeeese | messing with big config files just to get a simple redirection done |
| 05:55.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | what is it you really want to do? |
| 05:56.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is the simple thing to do |
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| 05:57.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | if I'd install a new one now just for switching IP addresses, I'd probably give tinyproxy or simpleproxy a try |
| 05:57.09 | cheeeese | nvm i will try and see how it goes..because i remember using an app which is as simple as ./appname listening port listening address and everything is done but i forget which |
| 05:57.25 | n-iCe | CutMeOwnThroat: http://alsdklasdasd.pastebin.com/m3e73e5a3 |
| 05:57.30 | n-iCe | What do you think are correct? |
| 05:57.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | how much easier than aptitude install <someproxy> can it be? |
| 05:58.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't know what you're bitching about, really |
| 05:58.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | but yes, making a proxy is simple |
| 05:58.35 | tictac | is there anyway i can tell what refresh rate my screen is using? |
| 05:58.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=netcat+proxy |
| 05:58.48 | tictac | xdpyinfo tells me the resolution. |
| 05:59.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | xvidinfo? |
| 05:59.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, ? |
| 05:59.48 | n-iCe | yup :) ? |
| 05:59.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, you got debian-multimedia twice |
| 05:59.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I don't get your question |
| 06:00.20 | n-iCe | solved |
| 06:00.26 | n-iCe | I mean, are the repositories ok? |
| 06:00.32 | n-iCe | for squeeze? |
| 06:00.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | and... |
| 06:00.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | "a mess"... ahem |
| 06:00.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | $ wc -l /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:00.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | 159 /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:00.53 | n-iCe | whut? |
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| 06:00.56 | n-iCe | :x |
| 06:01.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually you also got security.debian.org twice |
| 06:02.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... |
| 06:02.07 | tictac | gah finally got X running correctly. |
| 06:02.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | $ grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list |wc -l |
| 06:02.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | 8 |
| 06:02.23 | n-iCe | one have non-free |
| 06:02.25 | n-iCe | doesn't count? |
| 06:02.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you don't need the other one that doesn't |
| 06:03.36 | n-iCe | but won't affect |
| 06:03.39 | n-iCe | or will it? |
| 06:03.42 | n-iCe | cuz I did an upgrade |
| 06:04.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | shouldn't |
| 06:04.12 | n-iCe | great |
| 06:04.15 | n-iCe | sighs |
| 06:04.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I guess you should have stable as well |
| 06:05.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | testing isn't a full release |
| 06:05.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, it *becomes* one over time |
| 06:05.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | but we're still not very long after the last release |
| 06:05.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 06:06.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | although that is mixing which people frown upon |
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| 06:06.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | I take all of that back, I'm not sure |
| 06:06.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | unstable definitely isn't a full release |
| 06:06.35 | n-iCe | CutMeOwnThroat: what do yo recommend me then |
| 06:06.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm not sure if testing is one a short time after a new stable |
| 06:06.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, should be ok |
| 06:07.03 | n-iCe | I will leave it like you saw |
| 06:07.04 | n-iCe | ok? |
| 06:07.07 | dacs | howdy , anyone here using avidemux |
| 06:07.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, remove the duplicate stuff |
| 06:07.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | it slows update down |
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| 06:07.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !anyone use avidemux |
| 06:07.30 | dpkg | No, no one uses avidemux, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:07.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, I actually thought you'd have a go at this :) |
| 06:08.24 | n-iCe | what do you mean |
| 06:08.33 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: what will you advice for someone wih very little experinse in video editing to use in gnome |
| 06:08.54 | liable | avidemux is good for simple editing |
| 06:09.19 | dacs | liable: its giving me heck of a time |
| 06:10.16 | tictac | bah this is weird. |
| 06:10.29 | dacs | liable: i don't know how to import my DVD, and how to copy clips from my dvd and put all of them in one DVD! |
| 06:11.04 | tictac | if i startx on my lappy display and then switch the display to my monitor it works. but if i startx from the monitor display then it says invalid resolution/hertz |
| 06:11.14 | tictac | any ideas? |
| 06:11.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 06:11.26 | n-iCe | CutMeOwnThroat: what do you think now? |
| 06:11.28 | n-iCe | http://asdasdasdasd.pastebin.com/m74ba66dd |
| 06:11.49 | liable | dacs: i dont think it can do plain DVD (vobs or whatever they are) it should be able to transcode and then stitch them all together though |
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| 06:12.14 | liable | dacs: i only use it once in a blue moon, i have it installed, but havent used it for ages. |
| 06:12.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, I'm not sure I ever tried that... but try mplayer dvd://1 (change numbers until you get the main stream) then do mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile somefile.avi |
| 06:12.34 | dacs | liable: first time to use it |
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| 06:13.03 | liable | dacs: no tutorials out there? |
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| 06:13.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm not sure if that works... well *how* that works with a DVD, though (normally used for streaming content) |
| 06:13.56 | liable | avidemux doesnt do streaming |
| 06:15.14 | n-iCe | looks fine CutMeOwnThroat ? |
| 06:15.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | liable, no, but mplayer can save streams |
| 06:15.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | liable, and about tutorials... dunno for this case, but often not much useful stuff... e.g I haven't found out how to convert flv or wmv asf-coded stuff to x264 while retaining quality |
| 06:16.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | n-iCe, it was ok before... I always add deb-src lines for stable/unstable/experimental, so that apt-cache search or apt-cache madison finds the packages that are there as well, but that's just me |
| 06:18.09 | n-iCe | but before were repeated info, which ones are repetead :/ |
| 06:18.16 | n-iCe | could you edit the first one for me :x please |
| 06:18.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | repeated lines are no problem |
| 06:18.53 | n-iCe | oh |
| 06:18.55 | n-iCe | k |
| 06:19.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | but they slow the update down |
| 06:19.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | *shrug* |
| 06:19.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean the apt-get update |
| 06:19.30 | n-iCe | what is |
| 06:19.32 | n-iCe | GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. |
| 06:19.35 | n-iCe | I am getting it everywhere |
| 06:20.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | some gnome thing? |
| 06:20.19 | dacs | well i have to finsh this DVD before tomorrow 3:00pm |
| 06:20.27 | dacs | :( |
| 06:20.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, what exactly do you want to do? |
| 06:21.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I've not done a lot with videos... so what I can tell you is clearly limited |
| 06:21.28 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: our church preist gave me Jesus DVD, and he gave me a sheet of paper! |
| 06:21.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | this might be useful http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Convert_video_files |
| 06:22.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, hehe... put the DVD on the glass plate of the copier and the piece of paper in its tray, hit the button? :) |
| 06:22.24 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: on the sheet he gave some time frames, e.g 00:45:19 - 00:47:00 |
| 06:23.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
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| 06:23.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, try this |
| 06:23.24 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: and he want me to make another DVD with the parts he want, so that he can talk about it tomrrow infront of the crowd |
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| 06:23.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | must it be a dvd, btw? |
| 06:24.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | avidemux seems nice to me, btw, just trying it |
| 06:24.58 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: anything, just as long as he can put it in his lappy and use it with the projector |
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| 06:25.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | fair enough |
| 06:25.21 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: it will be nice if we can make each part as a chapter |
| 06:25.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 06:25.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's over my head |
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| 06:26.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | simplest would be to make each cut a file |
| 06:27.22 | darkbulb | what file format are these files in |
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| 06:27.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkbulb, what? |
| 06:28.04 | darkbulb | are these Jesus segments videos with sound or pictures |
| 06:28.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a dvd |
| 06:28.19 | darkbulb | what is on the dvd |
| 06:28.23 | darkbulb | is it a movie |
| 06:28.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | VOB's normally |
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| 06:28.41 | dacs | darkbulb: videos and sound |
| 06:28.42 | gaintsura | anyone had a problem with mysql not being able to start period because the mysql tables are read only? tried everything even 777 on the db directory. |
| 06:28.44 | dacs | yes vob |
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| 06:29.33 | dacs | gaintsura: check groups |
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| 06:29.44 | gaintsura | did that too |
| 06:29.46 | gaintsura | mysql:mysql |
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| 06:30.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, what is the problem using avidemux? |
| 06:30.43 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: i don't know where to start |
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| 06:30.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, well, you start it - can it read the dvd? |
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| 06:31.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, how much time do you have, in hours? |
| 06:31.55 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: the whole original dvd or the clips i want |
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| 06:32.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean you said you have to finish at 3 - how much time until then |
| 06:32.54 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: 12 hrs |
| 06:33.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | so it's 3 in the night now? |
| 06:33.42 | darkbulb | http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-12519_7-10032226-49.html this looks golden |
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| 06:34.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | that'd make 4 hours with decent sleep, ~10 without :) |
| 06:35.03 | darkbulb | once you have all the tracks split and numbered for reassembley simply burn a dvd |
| 06:35.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's video, not audio |
| 06:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I found the sister-article |
| 06:35.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8566 |
| 06:35.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
| 06:35.51 | cheeeese | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks for your help..i got privoxy working... |
| 06:35.58 | cheeeese | forced myself to read the manual |
| 06:36.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | cheeeese, heh :) |
| 06:36.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | cheeeese, you really only gotta change... 3 lines or so |
| 06:36.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | cheeeese, I actually like these ad-catching proxies |
| 06:36.46 | cheeeese | yeah..i was also intrigued that you can use it to redirect for all sort of purposes like passing attachments to AV |
| 06:37.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | cheeeese, oh-one more thing - if you browse to something that needs cookies you'll have to allow them... |
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| 06:37.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | cheeeese, ... or of course allow all cookies through - but I found there's not so many sites that I *need* to have cookies pass, so I just add them site-by-site |
| 06:37.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's now perhaps 12 or 15 |
| 06:38.09 | dacs | it is indexing right now and it will take 2 hrs |
| 06:38.15 | dacs | for god SACK |
| 06:38.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs what is? |
| 06:38.40 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: avidemux |
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| 06:38.49 | dacs | when i tried to open the VOB |
| 06:39.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, that sounds pretty useless |
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| 06:39.18 | darkbulb | dacs didnt you learn suffering is good for the soul ? lol |
| 06:39.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, try what I told you about mplayer (the 1st part) |
| 06:39.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | see if you can play the dvd with mplayer |
| 06:39.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | got mplayer and mencoder installed? |
| 06:40.39 | dacs | http://paste.debian.net/33136/ |
| 06:40.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm tired and don't have patience for this - I'll tell you a way that works and if it's not good enough, I'll leave you in the caring hands of google :) |
| 06:41.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, well, do you see the movie? |
| 06:41.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, no - not the dumpfile part just do mplayer dvd://1 |
| 06:41.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | and see if it plays what you want |
| 06:42.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | the point is DVDs normally have dvd://1 dvd://2 and so on and you first have to figure which one contains the movie |
| 06:43.42 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: it is playing |
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| 06:43.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | which one was it? |
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| 06:44.03 | mf_417 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.27 | kenboo | what package do I need to install so that my debian box with wifi card to be an access point? |
| 06:44.36 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: dvd://1 |
| 06:44.39 | darkbulb | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, ok... great - do you have mencoder installed? |
| 06:45.07 | darkbulb | kenb have you installed the driver for the wifi card |
| 06:45.10 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: no |
| 06:45.37 | kenboo | darkbulb: yes, it's b43. it works as client already. but now I want to make it an AP |
| 06:45.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, ok - but you got debian-multimedia in your sources.list (because you have mplayer)? |
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| 06:45.58 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
| 06:46.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, so you can just do apt-get install mencoder |
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| 06:47.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, oh - one more thing to check - try mplayer dvd://1 -ss 00:47:00 (where 00:47:00 is the start -time of the piece you need) and check if it really plays what you need |
| 06:47.54 | mf_417 | darkbulb: I used ccd and this is my clients ccd conf in server |
| 06:47.56 | mf_417 | ipconfig-push 10.17.10.66 255.255.255.0 |
| 06:47.56 | mf_417 | push "route 10.17.10.1 255.255.255.0" |
| 06:48.07 | mf_417 | it didn't work |
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| 06:49.06 | r1d3r_ | Hi, I've recently installed KDE4 on my debian Sid system, and the sound has stopped working. It workes fine in fluxbox, but not in KDE4. Does anyone have any ideas? |
| 06:49.20 | mf_417 | darkbulb: ping |
| 06:49.36 | darkbulb | ttp://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking |
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| 06:49.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, if you have mencoder installed - at the end of "man mencoder" there are some examples how to rip parts of a DVD into a file... I would say you just either rip each thing into a single file or all into one |
| 06:50.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure I know about the all-into-one part |
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| 06:50.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, hmm... or, btw, if you think you got enough time, you could give that qdvdauthor that the article-writer was so fond of a try... perhaps it's a breeze with that :) |
| 06:51.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | that one can create dvds and seems pretty much what you want |
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| 06:52.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | but let me finish 1st as a fall-back measure |
| 06:52.11 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: how do i stop mplayer |
| 06:52.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | hit 'q' |
| 06:52.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | or escape |
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| 06:54.03 | K|NgGh0sT | I just reinstalled debian and I activated my old lvm and now I want to use it but it's stuck in read only I cannot get it to chmod or chown |
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| 06:54.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, there's examples at the end |
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| 06:56.34 | K|NgGh0sT | Can anyone help me set the owner and mod for my LVM? It's stuck as user 1001 |
| 06:56.45 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: cant find it |
| 06:57.04 | DevilChaos | hi folks im wondering if it is possible to access an encrypted lvm partition through knoppix live cd? |
| 06:58.10 | dacs | CutMeOwnThroat: i can find it :( |
| 06:58.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs "mencoder dvd://1 -oac pcm -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=libx264:mbd=2:trell=yes:v4mv=yes -x264encopts pass=1 -ss 00:01:00 -endpos 00:02:00 -o oneminute.avi" should rip minute 1-2 from the dvd into a file |
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| 06:58.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | if quality is not sufficient, repeat with "pass=2" |
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| 06:59.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | (pass=1 saves some data on the encoding that is used in pass=2) |
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| 07:00.20 | DevilChaos | use devede its so much simpler |
| 07:00.22 | anoHito | i cannot join mysql,says i need to be identified |
| 07:00.44 | anoHito | but i need to know, the value of table_cache has to be Multiples of 1024 ? |
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| 07:01.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | dacs, run that on one of the snipplets you want... then you can have a look at this "qdvdauthor" while it runs (which seems to do much more what you want but I've read of for the 1st time today) |
| 07:01.17 | DevilChaos | i only use dvdrip to get the vobs and i use devede to do the rest and it takes like 2 hours not 6 years |
| 07:02.24 | dacs | if i got them in avi format that will be fine |
| 07:02.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I said my knowledge is very limited :) |
| 07:02.28 | DevilChaos | then qdvdauther to add menus and k3b to burn |
| 07:02.34 | W0rmF00d | does anyone know of a disk editor under Linux that can understand and recognize FAT filesystems? |
| 07:02.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's a "disk editor" |
| 07:03.09 | DevilChaos | dacs: use dvdrip to get the vobs then use devede to convert them to avi files |
| 07:03.24 | DevilChaos | qparted |
| 07:03.29 | W0rmF00d | strictly speaking, under Linux, it would be a file editor, because devices in Linux usually look like files |
| 07:03.44 | dacs | DevilChaos: am confused now |
| 07:03.50 | DevilChaos | ok |
| 07:03.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | obviously you want more than to just edit the raw device... |
| 07:03.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | DevilChaos, mission accomplished? :) |
| 07:04.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | (note the nick) |
| 07:04.14 | DevilChaos | dacs: you have dvdrip installed?\ |
| 07:04.23 | dacs | DevilChaos: no, |
| 07:04.36 | zeeble | if your kernel has FAT support enabled, you can turn it on, and use a file system browser to look at files in FAT. like emelfm, midnight commander, nautlius, konquerer |
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| 07:05.18 | dacs | DevilChaos: am installing it now |
| 07:05.20 | DevilChaos | dacs:do you have the repositorys set in /apt/archive/sources? |
| 07:05.23 | DevilChaos | ok |
| 07:05.56 | DevilChaos | install devede and qdvdauther |
| 07:06.46 | DevilChaos | aswell |
| 07:07.15 | dacs | done |
| 07:07.32 | DevilChaos | all 3? |
| 07:07.37 | dacs | yes |
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| 07:07.54 | DevilChaos | ok put a dvd in dvdr |
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| 07:08.07 | dacs | DevilChaos: it in! :) |
| 07:08.27 | DevilChaos | ok cancel open in new window |
| 07:08.32 | dacs | 3 word that can turn a man ego off?! |
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| 07:08.35 | DevilChaos | open dvdrip |
| 07:09.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | DevilChaos, heh, why don't you write a howto |
| 07:09.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
| 07:10.14 | dacs | DevilChaos: done |
| 07:10.25 | DevilChaos | im trying to help him dont be nasty! |
| 07:10.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, this probably is one, kind of http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8566 |
| 07:10.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | can be as nasty as he wants and nobody's gonna stop him |
| 07:11.00 | W0rmF00d | does anyone know of a disk editor under Linux that can understand and recognize FAT filesystems? (like norton disk editor) |
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| 07:11.30 | DevilChaos | norton is guff use linux thats why were here |
| 07:11.32 | zeeble | W0rmF00d: what's norton disk editor? you want to partition? |
| 07:11.50 | zeeble | W0rmF00d: you want to partition, or read files on a FAT filesystem? |
| 07:11.51 | dacs | DevilChaos: am ready! |
| 07:12.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | W0rmF00d, what is it you want to do? |
| 07:12.04 | W0rmF00d | no god damn it, I can partition a disk just fine...I want to edit the raw disk, and I want something that can understand and recognize a fat file system |
| 07:12.06 | DevilChaos | dacs: pm please |
| 07:12.12 | simonrvn | dacs: ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE? ;p |
| 07:12.20 | zeeble | W0rmF00d: what do you mean "edit a raw disk" |
| 07:12.25 | W0rmF00d | why would I ask for a disk editor if I wanted to partition or read files? |
| 07:12.26 | zeeble | you arent making yourself clear |
| 07:12.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | vi? |
| 07:12.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | W0rmF00d, you might |
| 07:12.40 | W0rmF00d | zeeble, you don't understand what I'm asking for |
| 07:12.43 | dacs | simonrvn: techno boy huh? |
| 07:12.47 | zeeble | W0rmF00d: which is why i am asking |
| 07:12.50 | zeeble | what a disk editor is |
| 07:12.57 | zeeble | or what norton disk editor does |
| 07:12.59 | W0rmF00d | a program to edit disks |
| 07:13.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're totally not saying what this is supposed to achieve |
| 07:13.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | vi! |
| 07:13.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | emacs! |
| 07:13.13 | zeeble | wtf is "edit disks"? |
| 07:13.22 | stew | WormFood: what exactly are you going to do? |
| 07:13.24 | dacs | DevilChaos: you got my message |
| 07:13.26 | simonrvn | dacs: not anymore. heh. |
| 07:13.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | cp /dev/zero /your/doomed/harddisk/device |
| 07:13.35 | stew | WormFood: you just want like a hexeditor for a disk or partition? |
| 07:13.40 | WormFood | stew, I have a hard drive here, I want to try to recover some deleted files from |
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| 07:13.57 | DevilChaos | MSG dacs 1.new project 2.read table of contents 3.rip selected title vobs go in your homr directory |
| 07:14.00 | stew | WormFood: and the files were deleted from a fat partition? |
| 07:14.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | why the fuck didn't you say right away |
| 07:14.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell! |
| 07:14.02 | WormFood | I think the hard drive has been formatted....I'd love something like norton disk editor, but for Linux |
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| 07:14.07 | WormFood | right stew |
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| 07:14.31 | WormFood | I can see the file names with xxd, when I examine the drive, but they are not in the directory structure |
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| 07:14.44 | zeeble | ah |
| 07:14.45 | stew | hmm, dos itself had undelete |
| 07:14.47 | greeq | for some reason all my desktop icon has disappeared. its checked as enabled in gconf-editor. i m using compiz fusion and mac4lin theme on debian amd64 |
| 07:14.51 | greeq | pls help |
| 07:14.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | there was a tool to undelete stuff from vfat |
| 07:15.01 | WormFood | yeah, and fsck.vfat has an undelete too |
| 07:15.10 | darkbulb | could smeone help me with jigdo - I have gotten jigdo-lite to the part where it downloads a templae from cdimage |
| 07:15.14 | stew | WormFood: and you can't use that? |
| 07:15.19 | simonrvn | DevilChaos: might want to try that again ;) |
| 07:15.19 | zeeble | no. dont use it. there is another tool. wait. let me go through my bookmarks. |
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| 07:15.32 | zeeble | i meant, dont use vfat undelete |
| 07:15.37 | WormFood | however, I've tried it, and it won't work....I know a lot about the fat format, and can manually edit it, and try to recover the files....I may fail, but I may succeed |
| 07:15.55 | WormFood | of course, I tried to use the undelete in fsck.vfat, but it doesn't see the files |
| 07:15.59 | stew | WormFood: so what is stopping you from editing it? you need suggestions for editors? |
| 07:16.03 | WormFood | like I said, I think the drive has been formatted |
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| 07:16.28 | WormFood | well stew, I was hoping to find an editor that can understand the fat data, like norton disk editor |
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| 07:16.45 | darkbulb | Worm try midknight commander |
| 07:16.51 | WormFood | I've been able to do some amazing data recoveries with Norton disk editor |
| 07:16.52 | zeeble | no, MC wont do it |
| 07:16.58 | WormFood | no darkbulb, totally different |
| 07:17.28 | darkbulb | Worm you could always use dd |
| 07:17.44 | WormFood | I recovered an entire hard drive, when both FATs were trashed.....I could combine the good sectors from both fats, and make both good again |
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| 07:18.04 | WormFood | darkbulb, thanks for your effort, but dd is a conversion tool....it is like a super 'cat' program |
| 07:18.09 | zeeble | here this |
| 07:18.12 | zeeble | WormFood: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk |
| 07:18.24 | dacs | DevilChaos: its going to take sometime |
| 07:18.24 | zeeble | i've used to recover whole fat32 and NTFS partitions |
| 07:18.43 | darkbulb | your well above me 0 I was going to suggest trying to reconsruct the files from slack space |
| 07:18.46 | dacs | DevilChaos: what shall i do after they are done? |
| 07:18.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's a testdisk in Debian - the same? |
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| 07:19.43 | parsonsd | zeeble from the wiki, that's a pretty handy tool |
| 07:20.04 | WormFood | wow zeeble, that sounds like an amazing program, if it really works |
| 07:20.06 | zeeble | parsonsd: yes. and it works. i deleted a whole partition when half asleep in windows.. booted to linux and recovered. |
| 07:20.38 | zeeble | WormFood: well, you can try. recover to another media/partition. |
| 07:20.46 | zeeble | maybe i got lucky with mine ;) |
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| 07:22.36 | WormFood | however, I don't expect what I want to do will be possible with any automated program, unless it is a very smart program |
| 07:22.36 | WormFood | what I want to try to recover is jpeg files.....does anyone know of any tools that can recover jpegs from a raw filesystem? |
| 07:23.00 | WormFood | zeeble, I have a copy of this hard drive, so I'm working with the copy |
| 07:23.08 | zeeble | WormFood: cool |
| 07:23.29 | zeeble | for filetype specific recovery, i have a windows software. it works well too. |
| 07:23.44 | zeeble | not very sure how you can pass specific info to testdisk |
| 07:23.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, hmm maybe... |
| 07:23.58 | WormFood | this hard drive was used by my friend's husband, who is dead...and I'm hoping there is some pictures she is interested....I can see the filenames in the directory structures....and there is almost nothing on the hard drive, so I feel confident I can recover something. |
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| 07:24.24 | WormFood | I can see jpeg picture data....if it is not too fragmented, I'm sure I can see some things |
| 07:25.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, did you see "magicrescue"? |
| 07:25.13 | WormFood | no |
| 07:25.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's in Debian... apt-cache show... |
| 07:25.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think I used that once |
| 07:25.31 | WormFood | I'm installing testdisk now...that is in a debian package |
| 07:25.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, I'm not sure it's the same as the one zeeble showed, though |
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| 07:25.59 | zeeble | magic rescue is different |
| 07:26.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know |
| 07:26.19 | WormFood | the best data recovery program I've seen yet, is tiramisu....sadly it is dos only....back home (in usa) I have a tiramisu boot disk |
| 07:26.23 | zeeble | let me check the deb package for test disk |
| 07:26.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I'm not so sure how the filesystem affects it |
| 07:26.38 | darkbulb | Worm are you sure you dont want to hand this off to Ontrack |
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| 07:26.51 | WormFood | and install magicrescue too |
| 07:27.01 | WormFood | no darkbulb, I'm perfectly capable of handling it myself |
| 07:27.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, you need to write your own "recovery config", though - its comparatively complex |
| 07:27.17 | zeeble | why dont you try with tiramisu then? its free too, i think |
| 07:27.29 | WormFood | at worst case I'd download norton diskeditor off the interweb, and make a bootable usb drive, and try to recover it that way |
| 07:27.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, but it has pre-prepared things for jpegs (which is why I thought of it) |
| 07:27.39 | WormFood | it is not free, but I have a working version |
| 07:27.52 | zeeble | shareware? ok |
| 07:28.07 | WormFood | awesome CutMeOwnThroat, that is the other type of thing I was looking for (if I can't recover the whole files) |
| 07:28.20 | WormFood | not shareware zeeble....it is commercial....but I have a legit serial number for it |
| 07:28.24 | zeeble | cool |
| 07:28.36 | WormFood | and I wouldn't send this hard drive to anyone....i'm rather skilled in data recovery |
| 07:28.48 | WormFood | i've recovered different file systems before |
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| 07:28.56 | zeeble | sounds good |
| 07:29.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood - well, that is the point - I'm not sure in how far fat prevents you from getting whole files with this |
| 07:29.18 | WormFood | i've even recovered deleted files off an OS-9 formatted floppy, over the modem (and not apple OS9 either) |
| 07:29.30 | WormFood | we'll see |
| 07:29.40 | stew | fat doesn't go very far at all. iirc fat deletes files by putting a special character as the first letter of the filename or something |
| 07:29.42 | WormFood | if the files are not fragmented, I should be able to recover them |
| 07:29.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, I think should be ok - as long as it's not fragmented |
| 07:29.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh :) |
| 07:29.52 | WormFood | yes stew, that is correct |
| 07:30.05 | WormFood | and then in the first chain in the fat, it sets it to a special value |
| 07:30.12 | WormFood | however, I expect the fat to be totally trashed |
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| 07:30.24 | zeeble | how big is the drive? |
| 07:30.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... don't we all fondly remember how you could "undelete" a file by changing a single byte on disk? :) |
| 07:30.34 | WormFood | 20 gig |
| 07:30.40 | zeeble | bah |
| 07:30.46 | WormFood | you had to do more than just 1 byte |
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| 07:30.56 | WormFood | however, not much more |
| 07:31.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, not for a short file :) |
| 07:31.23 | WormFood | if I remember correctly, the one byte in the file name, then run scandisk on it to update the fat |
| 07:31.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, mabby two |
| 07:31.35 | WormFood | been a while since I've done it |
| 07:31.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah :) |
| 07:31.50 | WormFood | and then there are undelete utilities too, which are even easier |
| 07:31.59 | WormFood | however, I want to undelete a file, on a formatted hard drive |
| 07:32.10 | WormFood | I wished the drive was just formatted, so I could unformat it |
| 07:32.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not really formatted if you still see *anything* |
| 07:32.26 | WormFood | didn't format move the directory structures to the end of the disk or something? |
| 07:32.38 | WormFood | sure it is CutMeOwnThroat |
| 07:32.39 | parsonsd | bleh - what thngs can i check to see why mpd has " problem opening connection to shout server " in lenny? before i go off and try to update *just* mpd-testing to get it to go, (there is a bugfix from mpd, but i don't know if it is in lenny; there are no similar debian bugs reported) netstat reports my port (4444) isn't open or listening... i'm trying limit the prblems of my own limited knowledge :) |
| 07:33.00 | WormFood | there are differences between a logical format, and a physical format...clearly this has been logically formatted |
| 07:33.11 | zeeble | did you install testdisk yet, WormFood? |
| 07:33.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, a real format should overwrite every single byte... .... yeah... |
| 07:33.17 | zeeble | it has photorec for images only |
| 07:33.19 | WormFood | not yet zeeble |
| 07:33.28 | WormFood | nice zeeble |
| 07:33.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | zeeble, is the one in Debian the one you mentioned? |
| 07:33.39 | zeeble | just checked the docu :p |
| 07:33.41 | WormFood | ok, thanks for your help and suggestions guys...I'm gonna go play with it now |
| 07:33.48 | WormFood | crosses his fingers |
| 07:33.55 | zeeble | dunno, CutMeOwnThroat .. i just grabbed the binary from the site |
| 07:33.56 | DC01 | the logical answer is to throw it away and start an ext formatted disk with a terabyte of space ;) |
| 07:34.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | (I had also found that in the repositories before you posted the link, but from the package description it wasn't necessarily the right hting) |
| 07:34.30 | bpun | zeeble, 'testdisk' is the string |
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| 07:34.41 | bpun | says ok |
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| 07:36.06 | zeeble | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, the same testdisk |
| 07:36.10 | DevilChaos | can i mount an encrypted lvm partition while using a live cd? |
| 07:36.17 | zeeble | just started it, it has the same interface |
| 07:36.24 | zeeble | testdisk and photorec |
| 07:36.29 | DevilChaos | and what would i use to do it? |
| 07:36.54 | parsonsd | or maybe i should ask, is there a way to tell which build of mpd that lenny has to compare it to the known fixed mpd from mpmusic.org? |
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| 07:39.12 | liable | parsonsd: changelog should say, aptittude changelog mpd |
| 07:40.39 | parsonsd | liable thnx |
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| 07:45.06 | ryx | how the hell do I remove that incredibly annoying gnome-keyring-ask popup when connecting somewhere? |
| 07:45.12 | ryx | *ssh-ing |
| 07:46.18 | GhostlyDeath | ryx: The enter two keys box? |
| 07:46.22 | GhostlyDeath | and it rates your password? |
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| 07:46.43 | GhostlyDeath | ryx: if that's the case, use a blank key |
| 07:46.56 | simonrvn | ssh-agent |
| 07:47.02 | GhostlyDeath | just press OK and then it will complain but you just say OK [I can deal with it] |
| 07:47.02 | ryx | no, the enter passphrase to unlock private key |
| 07:47.19 | ryx | I want to never ever see that popup again |
| 07:47.24 | GhostlyDeath | ryx: If you don't care about your private key |
| 07:47.26 | GhostlyDeath | delete it |
| 07:47.30 | GhostlyDeath | then when it asks to make a new one |
| 07:47.32 | GhostlyDeath | use no password |
| 07:47.40 | GhostlyDeath | it will be insecure however |
| 07:48.04 | GhostlyDeath | might need to screw around in gconf stuff if it refuses to die |
| 07:48.16 | ryx | I have used ssh-agent for years, on the command line |
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| 07:48.26 | ryx | now suddenly there's a stupid gui that doesn't work properly |
| 07:48.33 | Adrian` | heh |
| 07:48.36 | ryx | (asking me for a passphrase even though the key is in the agent) |
| 07:48.45 | ryx | I just want it like it was before |
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| 07:51.02 | ryx | it starts gnome-keyring instead of ssh-agent |
| 07:52.02 | WormFood | zeeble, the photorec in testdisk has recovered over 1000 jpegs...some are new....that program works like a charm....thanks again for pointing out that program to me |
| 07:52.16 | zeeble | WormFood: cool. never used photorec myself, but good to know it works |
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| 07:54.24 | WormFood | in 5 minutes it recovered over 1500 jegs, and none are damaged so far |
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| 07:55.18 | ilf | just upgraded xserver-xorg in sid to 2:1.6.0-1. now mu x keyboard layout is english, although there is Option "XkbLayout" "de" in xorg.conf. any idea? |
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| 07:55.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | logfiles |
| 07:55.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | they have lots of ideas |
| 07:55.53 | ilf | this is my old xor.conf though, seems like debconf did not produce a new one and running dpkg/reconfigure does nothing |
| 07:56.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | xorg doesn't need one anymore |
| 07:56.17 | ilf | CutMeOwnThroat: finding nothing about keyboard |
| 07:56.41 | ilf | CutMeOwnThroat: doesn|t need a xorg.conf anz more_ |
| 07:56.56 | ilf | ? *keymap :) |
| 07:57.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... it autodetects everything |
| 07:57.13 | GhostlyDeath | anz more |
| 07:57.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | or is supposed to |
| 07:57.23 | GhostlyDeath | It seems us Americans are invading your computer! |
| 07:57.44 | GhostlyDeath | CutMeOwnThroat: Mess around with your WM's keyboard settings |
| 07:57.57 | GhostlyDeath | GNOME keyboard preferences, KDE keyboard preferences, etc. |
| 07:58.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | !drxx |
| 07:58.04 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root; this will overwrite your xorg.conf but your old file will be backed up. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier) ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with <xrandr>. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however, using the output of X -configure as a template. |
| 07:58.05 | GhostlyDeath | I mean ilf |
| 07:58.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | indeed you do! |
| 07:58.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | you don't wanna me to mess with your kbd |
| 08:00.06 | parsonsd | there's a debian listed bug (under "wishlist" -- #460102) which isn't listed any more that just one notice from last year. what do i do with it? i verified that i can put something listening on that port... :^\ |
| 08:00.50 | ilf | hm, running it without a xorg.xonf makes it complain about there not being a xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-vesa, but there are uninstallable as of now because of dependencies |
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| 08:01.20 | WormFood | recovered over 7200 files, of which over 1900 were pictures :D |
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| 08:02.15 | zeeble | WormFood: sounds good. all the files are complete, or part of the fragmented file only? |
| 08:02.31 | WormFood | zeeble, wow...I'm lagged to hell and back...just got you last message.... |
| 08:02.42 | WormFood | they appear to all be complete...I didn't see the first broken picture |
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| 08:03.01 | WormFood | that is a fantastic program....honestly, I couldn't have done this fast, this good by hand |
| 08:03.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | parsonsd, you mean it's obsolete? |
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| 08:03.29 | zeeble | WormFood: sounds good. i'll keep it handy muyself. i work with images quite a bit |
| 08:03.29 | WormFood | that is a super program....I'm VERY impressed....and it take a lot to impress me with that type of software |
| 08:03.40 | parsonsd | CutMeOwnThroat - which is obsolete? the bug report or the fix? |
| 08:03.41 | WormFood | cool |
| 08:03.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | the bug report |
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| 08:04.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | AND the fix, I guess :) |
| 08:04.49 | parsonsd | CutMeOwnThroat - the report is correct in description, but i'd say that severity is a bit low. the intial reporter seems to indicate that he has losing connection; i never get a connection beginning. |
| 08:05.00 | GhostlyDeath | WormFood: what did you use? |
| 08:05.10 | WormFood | now when I take a picture of my girlfriend she doesn't like, I can delete it, and then recover it with this program :D |
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| 08:05.40 | GhostlyDeath | WormFood: just encrypt it and say you deleted it |
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| 08:06.01 | WormFood | GhostlyDeath, it is a package called "testdisk" (it is at least in sid, don't know what else).....and the program I used out of that is called "photorec"....for "photo RECover", but it recovers a LOT MORE than just photos |
| 08:06.20 | WormFood | GhostlyDeath, hard to do that, with stock firmware in the camera |
| 08:06.25 | WormFood | she'll want to see the picture |
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| 08:06.46 | WormFood | so I hit the delete dialog, and move the cursor to "yes", and then hit cancel |
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| 08:07.14 | WormFood | then when I show her, I just go forward and back, and stop before that pic :D |
| 08:07.38 | WormFood | she would not be happy, if she knew I kept every picture she told me to delete |
| 08:07.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | funny you should say that... |
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| 08:08.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | she seems to agree |
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| 08:09.19 | zeeble | most dslr's have a quick hide function |
| 08:09.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | they do? |
| 08:09.37 | zeeble | yes. |
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| 08:09.48 | WormFood | but it did a sucky job at detecting text files....but that is ok, as I was going for the pics |
| 08:10.02 | WormFood | I don't have a DSLR camera....I have a sony DSC-H50 |
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| 08:14.20 | ryx | thank you for being utterly helpful |
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| 08:14.47 | ryx | the correct solution was to kick gdm and use kdm, since the gnome people grow more misguided by the day |
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| 08:21.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's gdm gotta do with aything |
| 08:21.14 | parsonsd | how do i update only a single pacakge (et dependancies) to testing from stable. i'd rather not dist-upgrade everything.. |
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| 08:21.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | you know all about mixing, do you? |
| 08:21.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | or... |
| 08:21.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | you are PREPARED to learn all about mixing, right? :) |
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| 08:22.33 | parsonsd | CutMeOwnThroat - i know it can have pretty nasty effects, but i'd like to see if testing's mpd will send its output to a shout/ice stream |
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| 08:22.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, to answer the question first as simple as "apt-get install package" |
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| 08:23.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | also /msg dpkg bobbit and /msg dpkg mixed system |
| 08:23.26 | parsonsd | CutMeOwnThroat, eh? like that after including the testing deb line in apt-source? |
| 08:23.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 08:23.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and after apt-get update |
| 08:23.35 | parsonsd | source.lists? |
| 08:23.39 | parsonsd | hrm. |
| 08:23.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.14 | parsonsd | CutMeOwnThroat - yes, thanks. maybe i should wait till i have more sleep 8^| |
| 08:24.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course... if it doesn't pull in dependencies, there is no problem |
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| 08:24.32 | parsonsd | mpd has a few dependancies |
| 08:24.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | (all that can be broken is the program itself, right) |
| 08:25.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | but they might be able to be fulfilled with stable at the moment |
| 08:25.13 | parsonsd | hm so copy out the .conf files too |
| 08:26.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it looks risky (glibc?) /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 08:27.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | parsonsd, oh - yeah apt-get install package -t unstable |
| 08:27.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | forgot to mention the -t switch |
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| 08:31.49 | parsonsd | CutMeOwnThroat - thanks. too many dependancies ... certainly for tonight. alsa plugins libjack, maybe tomorrow night. |
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| 08:33.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | parsonsd, you can always run apt-get install mpd -t unstable and hit ctrl-c when what it tries to pull in doesn't please you, btw. |
| 08:33.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's how I normally check |
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| 08:36.12 | _bozo | hi. how to activate use of pcntl function in php5 ? "apt-get install php5" do not solve my problem. "apt-cache search pcntl" return php5-cli but the install of this package do not solve my problem ... |
| 08:36.14 | christoz | away |
| 08:39.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | look in /usr/share/doc/php-doc/html/pcntl.setup.html from php-doc? |
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| 08:39.55 | _bozo | CutMeOwnThroat: thank |
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| 08:42.23 | romano2k | hi everyone! can any of you tell me how i should do to start automatically DHCPD on boot? |
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| 08:44.24 | ilf | romano2k: rcconf |
| 08:44.53 | romano2k | ilf: googling it will help me? :) |
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| 08:45.23 | ilf | romano2k: apt-get install rcconf ; rcconf |
| 08:45.42 | romano2k | ilf: okay on my way, thank you! |
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| 08:48.05 | antii | hello |
| 08:49.37 | antii | i got a problem with downloading ssl torrents (legal), im getting this messange from rtorrent: Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with known CA certificates |
| 08:50.02 | romano2k | ilf: i get this message when i try to install rcconf, any idea? "syntax error: unknown user `mediatomb' in statoverride file" |
| 08:50.20 | megaTherion | is etch the newest debian repo available? |
| 08:51.06 | _bozo | megaTherion: stable, lenny |
| 08:51.56 | antii | has my messange anything to do with firefox, rtorrent or my debian? |
| 08:52.23 | romano2k | antii: i think that it's from rtorrent |
| 08:52.37 | romano2k | who is unable to authenticate with the peer |
| 08:52.39 | antii | romano2k: ok, i googled it and they said update my ca-certificat but dunno how |
| 08:53.04 | romano2k | hmm i don't know either :) |
| 08:53.24 | antii | hmm |
| 08:53.28 | antii | ca-certificates was up to date |
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| 08:57.11 | _bozo | how to add configure option with source package ? |
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| 09:03.29 | drowner | hello all |
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| 09:03.52 | Rohit_kgec | can anyone help me with some easy development links for newbies? |
| 09:04.07 | bolt | "development links"? |
| 09:04.31 | drowner | I am an ubuntu user, i wish to change to debian. I have a seperate /home partition. If I install debian over / will my /home work? |
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| 09:04.44 | sassytomato | yes |
| 09:04.50 | drowner | i'm really only worried about browser passwords, and so on, which i tend to forget |
| 09:04.56 | drowner | sassytomato: yes, it will work? |
| 09:05.02 | sassytomato | yes |
| 09:05.10 | drowner | very good |
| 09:05.13 | bolt | drowner: do take a backup anyway. you should have one if you care about your data. but yes, you can use your old home |
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| 09:05.55 | drowner | bolt: thanks v much |
| 09:06.22 | antii | i got a problem with downloading ssl torrents (legal), im getting this messange from rtorrent: Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with known CA certificates |
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| 09:07.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks like the same as you get with a browser and ssl... |
| 09:07.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | it'll be a self-made certificate? |
| 09:08.02 | antii | CutMeOwnThroat: huh? |
| 09:08.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | you didn't browse many private ssl pages, did you? :) |
| 09:08.27 | antii | no |
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| 09:08.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | or ever started an ssl webserver |
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| 09:08.49 | antii | what do i have to do? |
| 09:09.08 | _bozo | how to add configure option to a source package ? |
| 09:09.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno - if you trust the source, see if you can ovveride the behavior |
| 09:09.19 | antii | CutMeOwnThroat: I did accept it on firefox |
| 09:09.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | but why on earth would torrent use ssl? |
| 09:09.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's the link? |
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| 09:11.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell _bozo about build custom package |
| 09:12.35 | antii | CutMeOwnThroat: what can i do then? |
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| 09:12.41 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: to attempt to hide that it's a torrent |
| 09:12.50 | ddalton | is anyone around that could help me out with 'tcp dump'? |
| 09:13.17 | simonrvn | of course, that won't matter, they'll just sniff it and decode it. |
| 09:13.23 | simonrvn | tcpdump |
| 09:13.33 | ddalton | huh? |
| 09:13.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a programs name |
| 09:13.49 | simonrvn | it's spelled tcpdump |
| 09:13.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it doesn't have a space |
| 09:14.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 09:14.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could call the internet a tcp dump :) |
| 09:14.20 | antii | gaj |
| 09:14.23 | antii | need to fix this :$ |
| 09:14.29 | ddalton | ok. |
| 09:14.34 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: heh |
| 09:14.34 | ddalton | so can u guys help me out with it or not? |
| 09:14.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | antii, what's the download link? |
| 09:15.16 | antii | CutMeOwnThroat: cant give |
| 09:15.18 | antii | its private :P |
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| 09:15.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | well |
| 09:15.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | then you should investigate the solution to your problem privately :) |
| 09:16.29 | antii | someone said that it could be that my local CA certificate SSl repository looking for a match and it ain't getting one |
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| 09:16.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | 'nother problem solved... boy am I good |
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| 09:17.52 | boskar | Hi |
| 09:18.17 | boskar | Have anyone experienced problems with xorg upgrade in sid? |
| 09:18.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... you... |
| 09:18.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | obviously |
| 09:18.37 | boskar | :-) |
| 09:18.47 | boskar | someone else? :P |
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| 09:19.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | we don't do no polls not |
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| 09:19.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | !polls |
| 09:19.49 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 09:20.59 | Daniel10 | lol |
| 09:21.23 | bolt | !lol |
| 09:21.23 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 09:21.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe, give me five |
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| 09:21.57 | Daniel10 | haha... |
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| 09:22.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | lawl :) |
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| 09:22.58 | ziroday | Hi, what repo's should I have on my debian install? |
| 09:22.58 | Daniel10 | dpkg's a bt right |
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| 09:23.04 | ziroday | Daniel10: yes |
| 09:23.05 | Daniel10 | bot* |
| 09:23.53 | bolt | !bot |
| 09:23.53 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 09:24.44 | ziroday | I mean, what are the default repo's I should have, I've managed to trash my /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 09:25.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | ziroday, what street should you take to reach the next post office? |
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| 09:25.26 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: most helpful |
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| 09:25.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | ziroday, just saying that the answer obviously is "depends" |
| 09:25.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | !sources.list |
| 09:25.57 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 09:26.21 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: apt-setup was what I was looking for, thank you. |
| 09:26.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | mostly depends on "what version" |
| 09:26.40 | Daniel10 | hrm, trying to figure out dpkg's commands :( |
| 09:26.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | eww, you don't need that for 3 lines |
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| 09:28.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | ziroday, and you mean apt-spy? |
| 09:28.12 | Daniel10 | here's my problem: i have debian, 5.0.0 and am using fluxbox (those guys aren't awake or won't say anything). my 'ALT' key doesn't work for some reason |
| 09:28.20 | Daniel10 | makes irssi a little harder |
| 09:28.22 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: ftp.debian.org works fine for me. |
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| 09:29.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | use ftp.<cc>.debian.org <cc> is your country code as the factoid suggests |
| 09:29.29 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: but ftp.debian.org is fast enough and I have no idea where this server is located. |
| 09:29.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | and there is no apt-setup anymore |
| 09:29.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 09:29.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | how could that happen? |
| 09:30.14 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: its a friends, not mine. I don't normally use debian. |
| 09:30.19 | ziroday | and he's royally fscked it up |
| 09:30.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | nice |
| 09:30.37 | ziroday | so I get the pleasure of fixing his crap |
| 09:30.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | try cat /etc/debian_version |
| 09:30.47 | simonrvn | you shouldn't use ftp.d.o if at all possible. it's stressed as it is. putting more on it won't be appreciated. |
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| 09:30.57 | antii | how can i get calibiri font for deb+ |
| 09:31.19 | ziroday | simonrvn: okay, shall use ftp.us.debian.org then :) |
| 09:31.20 | Maior | Daniel10: esc is also meta |
| 09:31.26 | Maior | fwiw |
| 09:31.41 | Daniel10 | holy sh |
| 09:31.58 | simonrvn | ziroday: it's the same pretty much. |
| 09:32.24 | Daniel10 | how would i make alt_l do the same? in the fluxbox keys file |
| 09:32.28 | ziroday | simonrvn: then I'll use canada. |
| 09:32.42 | ziroday | simonrvn: which is ca? |
| 09:33.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | are you saying one shouldn't use ftp.us.debian.org when in the us? |
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| 09:33.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | that sounds a bit fishy to me |
| 09:33.23 | Daniel10 | that's not right |
| 09:33.37 | Daniel10 | you do get better speeds from universities |
| 09:33.39 | simonrvn | no, nm me... i'm tired, the first one is right though. |
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| 09:33.49 | ziroday | makes rude noises |
| 09:34.08 | bolt | makes beep beep noises |
| 09:34.10 | simonrvn | .us is fine for the us, .ca for canuckistan, etc. |
| 09:34.18 | ziroday | now lenny == 5.0, no? |
| 09:34.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 09:34.23 | simonrvn | yes |
| 09:34.29 | ziroday | woop de do |
| 09:34.32 | Daniel10 | looks at mod :) |
| 09:34.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean he could traceroute the machine to find out where it is |
| 09:34.54 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: oh, good idea |
| 09:34.54 | simonrvn | it's a round robin |
| 09:35.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | but if it's for a "friend" who sank the machine, I don't see the point :) |
| 09:35.12 | Daniel10 | i'd make him fix it himself |
| 09:35.25 | Daniel10 | *his computer |
| 09:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | ziroday, they got splendid servers in nigeria, btw :) |
| 09:35.33 | simonrvn | might as well give him/her an ubuntu live cd and be done with it... :P |
| 09:35.47 | ziroday | CutMeOwnThroat: hardy har har |
| 09:36.09 | bolt | CutMeOwnThroat: they only require a small deposit to allow you to connect to them, and then you'll get 120 million dollars once you do? |
| 09:36.12 | Daniel10 | !dict har |
| 09:36.16 | dpkg | could not find definition for har |
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| 09:36.31 | Daniel10 | !dict urban/har |
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| 09:36.44 | simonrvn | bolt: no man, it's 150 million |
| 09:36.50 | ziroday | simonrvn: ubuntu is rubbish for servers. I would end up fixing his machine every 6months. This way I fix it every 1 and half years. |
| 09:36.51 | bolt | oh |
| 09:36.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | bolt, right... well, actually no deposit at all... until a week later |
| 09:37.27 | simonrvn | ziroday: did you notice the ":P" yet? ;) |
| 09:37.46 | ziroday | simonrvn: sowies, being blind :) |
| 09:37.57 | biopyte | where can i find the flags of the world as free .png or jpg? maybe there is a GNU package? |
| 09:38.23 | biopyte | GPL package |
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| 09:39.10 | Daniel10 | there a way to assign fix alt? |
| 09:39.26 | antii | how can i add a ttf font ? |
| 09:39.36 | ziroday | antii: stick it in ~/.fonts |
| 09:39.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | biopyte, wikipedia? |
| 09:39.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | wikimedia, even |
| 09:39.52 | jelly-home | !install font |
| 09:39.52 | dpkg | To install fonts for just one user, copy then into ~/.fonts/ and then run fc-cache -fv (or ask me about <kfontinst>). To install them system-wide, copy them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts or into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts (but you will have to add /usr/local/share/fonts/ to your xorg.conf) and run fc-cache -fv as root. |
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| 09:40.51 | simonrvn | biopyte: you can find those flags just about everywhere. i think i have 6 copies of them lying around here and there. check out stuff like wordpress, fckeditor, egroupware, and stuff like that, you're bound to find one or more. |
| 09:40.58 | antii | ziroday: got no folder like that |
| 09:41.14 | jelly-home | antii: create it |
| 09:41.41 | simonrvn | antii: run fc-cache -f after |
| 09:41.54 | antii | okok thx |
| 09:42.06 | simonrvn | jelly-home: \o/ |
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| 09:43.45 | antii | ziroday: btw, the fonts are in a folder already, should i move them from the folder or with the folder |
| 09:44.51 | simonrvn | antii: won't matter |
| 09:44.58 | antii | ok |
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| 09:45.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | folders... that's ms-speak, right? It used to be directories |
| 09:45.42 | simonrvn | yes it is |
| 09:45.44 | simonrvn | !folder |
| 09:45.44 | antii | :p |
| 09:45.45 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
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| 09:46.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | superplusbad |
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| 09:47.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | now I can't remember what the ministry of love did |
| 09:48.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, torture it was |
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| 09:52.22 | ukl | hello. a general question concerning laptop batteries. what's the "good practice" with li-ion batteries? It's charged to 60% at the moment and I'd like to fully charge it. Should I use it until it's empty first or can I just charge it right away? |
| 09:52.58 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: oldspeak is thoughtcrime, thoughtcrime is death |
| 09:53.02 | izua | wasn't the ministry of love the one that taught hatred? |
| 09:53.04 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: refer to it as miniluv. |
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| 09:53.20 | izua | (5 minutes of hate, public manifestations..) |
| 09:53.25 | licantrup | I think it is good to use until is empty from time to time |
| 09:53.35 | darkbulb | uki suck them dry |
| 09:53.38 | licantrup | I mean the battery |
| 09:53.56 | ukl | licantrup: thanks |
| 09:54.00 | lvh | Em, it's LiION, not NiMH. |
| 09:54.00 | licantrup | at least I read that |
| 09:54.08 | lvh | 60% is optimal. |
| 09:54.27 | lvh | well, 60 +/- 10, depends largely on what your battery reports :-) |
| 09:54.49 | Daniel10 | how do i change what my alt key does-it doesn't work right now. Debian 5.0 fluxbox wm |
| 09:54.50 | ukl | lvh: optimal for taking it with me without further loading? optimal for full charging? |
| 09:54.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, no, it *instilled* the love for big brother by torture and brainwashing I just wikipediad it |
| 09:54.58 | lvh | ukl: your battery does *NOT* have a significant memory effect. |
| 09:55.13 | lvh | ukl: optimal as in "degrades least in maximal capacity if you leave it at 60% for long amounts of time" |
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| 09:55.17 | {g} | Hey People! Whats a nice way to show the last lines of a gzipped file? |
| 09:55.21 | ukl | lvh: thank you, just what I needed to know |
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| 09:55.58 | lvh | ukl: also liion has NO memory effect. |
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| 09:56.16 | antii | why can't i use my button 3 on my mouse for scrolling in like firefox? |
| 09:56.24 | lvh | ukl: this means it's not bad to leave it at 60%. Discharging does not help. |
| 09:56.57 | ukl | thank you, I'm relieved to know something certain about that |
| 09:57.12 | lvh | ukl: a Li ion accumulator degrades permanently as soon as its package is sealed. |
| 09:57.29 | lvh | ukl: you can sort-of revive NiCd/NiMH, but once a Li ION battery is dead, it's dead, period. |
| 09:57.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | {g}, "gunzip <file |tail" ? |
| 09:58.09 | ukl | So that's what acpi meant with "last full charge xy, 90% of total capacity" |
| 09:58.19 | {g} | CutMeOwnThroat: yo |
| 09:58.50 | lvh | ukl: the biggest problem is the cathode material. layered oxides are superior in terms of production maturity, but they degrade over time (this process is unstoppable) |
| 09:59.22 | lvh | ukl: depends on total capacity and battery age. |
| 09:59.40 | lvh | ukl: total capacity can mean reference capacity or last-known-full capacity. |
| 10:00.03 | lvh | ukl: in a new battery the latter value is tpyically higher than the former, but in an old battery it will be much much lower. |
| 10:00.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Daniel10, in xorg.conf with these 3 guys https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=option+XkbLayout+XkbVariant+XkbOptions |
| 10:00.14 | lvh | ukl: Aim for 60-70%, you'll be fine. |
| 10:00.33 | Daniel10 | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
| 10:00.39 | darkbulb | lvh are you some sort of electronic engineer or otherwise employed in a battery maintainence capacity - you seem quite knowledgeable |
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| 10:00.58 | boskar | Could You try to help with my xorg? After upgrading to 7.4 and installing console-setup (as dependant)? gdm starts, but does not respond to keyboard nor mouse (cannot switch to ttyn, cannot ctrl alt backspace, cannot login)? |
| 10:01.00 | lvh | darkbulb: I'm studying CS/EE, and last year I had a few anorganic chemistry classes. |
| 10:01.25 | darkbulb | lvh course VI |
| 10:01.39 | lvh | ukl: are you actually using this battery on a daily basis? |
| 10:01.47 | lvh | ukl: the most important thing I can tell you is: keep that thing *COLD*. |
| 10:01.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | Daniel10, non-permanently with xmodemap |
| 10:02.15 | lvh | ukl: if you're not using it, and your laptop gets very hot (ie old P4 laptops), take the battery out when you're on AC power. |
| 10:02.27 | darkbulb | I remember dell actually recalled laptops some years back due to an exploding battery |
| 10:02.42 | darkbulb | when it got too hit |
| 10:02.42 | lvh | ukl: battery degradation in function of temperature is as good as exponential. |
| 10:02.47 | Daniel10 | fu...i can't even copy the url... |
| 10:03.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | boskar, 1st check if you got xserver-xorg-input-kbd installed :) |
| 10:03.09 | Daniel10 | fudge... |
| 10:03.10 | lvh | darkbulb: I'm not even talking about electrolytes increasing in volume enough to break a cell |
| 10:03.17 | lvh | darkbulb: I'm just talking about capacity degradation |
| 10:04.00 | lvh | darkbulb: The difference between 40 degrees (say, a hot P4 laptop) and 20 degrees (room temperature) is more than a factor of two in terms of capacity lost over a year (without duty cycles). |
| 10:04.01 | boskar | CutMeOwnThroat: yep, it's installed ;) |
| 10:04.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | lvh, heh... pity that is no option for me - the cable to the laptop broke inside *again* |
| 10:04.28 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: Get a probe, find problem, fix cable? |
| 10:04.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | boskar, damn... that was what created those symptoms for me |
| 10:04.54 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: I had a cool EE lab for that. |
| 10:05.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | lvh, well, yes and no - it breaks directly next to the connector, so I can only buy a new power supply :-/ |
| 10:05.40 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: Put an AC source on one side. The cable will act as a capacitor. You can use a current probe (the kind that works using ampere's law), find problem |
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| 10:06.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know where the problem is |
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| 10:06.28 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: Ah. Didn't read the last one. |
| 10:06.37 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: Can't you open the PSU? |
| 10:06.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just can't repair it, because it breaks so close to the plug |
| 10:06.38 | ukl | lvh: I actually rarely use it, it's usually hidden somewhere or lying on my desk |
| 10:07.00 | lvh | ukl: 60%, put it in a cold place. |
| 10:07.05 | lvh | ukl: 40% works too |
| 10:07.07 | lvh | ukl: less is better. |
| 10:07.14 | lvh | ukl: just remember to charge it once in a while. |
| 10:07.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | no - it's just the cable you plug into the laptop - really simple to fix, if I needn't cut the plug open (and then the plug is kinda ruined) |
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| 10:07.52 | lvh | ukl: The worst things you can do to a battery and that most people seem to ignore is: a) let it get hot (very important not to do this) b) never charge it (always charge your battery and discharge it once in a while) |
| 10:07.54 | bolt | CutMeOwnThroat: buy a new plug and solder it on? |
| 10:08.01 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: Ugh. |
| 10:08.02 | ukl | lvh: I intend to use it a bit next week (going on a trip) so I intended to charge it now in order to once actually _use_ the thing |
| 10:08.07 | lvh | bolt: probably a nonstandard plug |
| 10:08.08 | lvh | brb, food |
| 10:08.20 | lvh | ukl: 60% now, 100% before trip, cold storage. |
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| 10:08.23 | ukl | lvh: thanks for your help :) |
| 10:08.40 | bolt | lvh: you can get most of them anyway though. i have like 20 different non-standard plugs around from various multi-laptop-adapters |
| 10:09.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, thats the next plan :) - bought a cheap new power supply the last time for 10 bucks or so, and it broke within a couple of weeks, so I ended up soldering it's plug/cable into the old power supply (and now the cable has a break inside again after only a few months) |
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| 10:10.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | boskar, looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
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| 10:11.08 | licantrup | I'd like to install the unrar package (non-free) but apt-get says: 'unrar has no installation candidate' |
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| 10:11.52 | boskar | CutMeOwnThroat: in xorg.conf everything is set to generic (using ps/2 mouse and kbg) |
| 10:11.54 | licantrup | there are files here: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/unrar. But I don't know whate to download or how to use it |
| 10:11.58 | boskar | kbd* |
| 10:12.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | licantrup, well... got non-free in your sources.list? |
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| 10:13.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | boskar, no - I mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log - does it tell you what went wrong? |
| 10:13.20 | boskar | CutMeOwnThroat: what should I look for in Xorg.0.log? |
| 10:13.25 | boskar | seems to be ok |
| 10:13.28 | boskar | no errors, etc |
| 10:13.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | EE or WW :) |
| 10:13.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | "kbd" "keyboard" or "mouse" would also be good candidates to search for |
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| 10:14.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | and XKB |
| 10:14.42 | izua | how can i access a box with ssh |
| 10:14.51 | izua | from a network that only allows traffic on :80 ? |
| 10:15.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | depends |
| 10:15.15 | izua | "change ssh port to :80" isn't really what i'm looking for :P |
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| 10:15.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean only allows traffic TO port 80 |
| 10:15.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | corkscrew or run ssh on port 80 |
| 10:15.39 | izua | corkscrew? |
| 10:15.41 | izua | hmm |
| 10:15.43 | boskar | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep keyboard results in "(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device." |
| 10:15.52 | izua | i'm on a windows machine there.. college |
| 10:15.53 | darkbulb | why not ssh over 80 |
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| 10:16.03 | izua | because there's already something running at :80 |
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| 10:16.12 | darkbulb | unless our afraid of being sniffed |
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| 10:16.26 | izua | i don't really care, my passwords are 25 chars long :) |
| 10:16.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, there's also 443 |
| 10:16.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | eh? |
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| 10:16.56 | izua | as far as i studied, nothing over port 80 passes |
| 10:17.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's being sniffed got to do with anything? |
| 10:17.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | 443 is https |
| 10:17.12 | darkbulb | izua run it over 20 or 21 |
| 10:17.22 | izua | ah. right. |
| 10:17.26 | izua | yeah, that's a good idea |
| 10:17.31 | izua | but still |
| 10:17.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course! |
| 10:17.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | it was my idea! |
| 10:17.40 | izua | isn't possible to tunnel data over :80? |
| 10:17.49 | darkbulb | sure it is |
| 10:17.57 | darkbulb | what is a web page but data |
| 10:17.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can't have two different things listen to port 80 |
| 10:18.02 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: Just out of interest, how many pins on your connector? |
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| 10:18.07 | izua | are you from minilove? |
| 10:18.09 | Daniel10 | CutMeOwnThroat: that website didn't help me much :( |
| 10:18.13 | izua | if you are, then it is a good idea. |
| 10:18.14 | lvh | izua: miniluv. |
| 10:18.18 | izua | doubleplus good idea. |
| 10:18.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | lvh, just two |
| 10:18.21 | psteyn | Hi, my exim server accidently had the wrong hostname, so mails sent looked like : www.site.co.za.site.co.za. I've fixed that now, and new mail is being delivered properly..but I have alot of old mails that retry every now and then and still fail |
| 10:18.35 | izua | uh, yeah, miniluv. it's been a while. |
| 10:18.41 | psteyn | how can I fix those so they use the new hostname? |
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| 10:19.09 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: How big is it? What brand/model? |
| 10:19.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, apt-cache show corkscrew - but it doesn't help you if you don't have a machine that runs corkscrew on port 80 |
| 10:19.26 | izua | darkbulb: of course, but the thing is.. |
| 10:19.43 | izua | would http allow it? since it's mostly a request-reply-close thing. |
| 10:19.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | lvh, I think they might be quite standard... I'll look for the plug instead of a whole new adapter this time (don't have it here so don't know model right now) |
| 10:19.57 | izua | well, i want to keep running my ssh on its regular port |
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| 10:20.10 | izua | and i need to get out to it from the college network on :80 |
| 10:20.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, did you look at corkscrew? |
| 10:20.18 | izua | is there a public service that offers this? |
| 10:20.23 | darkbulb | you can telnet to a webserver and sent http commands via telnet |
| 10:20.31 | izua | i know |
| 10:20.32 | izua | heh :) |
| 10:20.45 | izua | but if my college blocks anything that's not :80 |
| 10:20.48 | izua | it doesn't really help :P |
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| 10:21.20 | darkbulb | if youve got e-mail at college they have 110 or 443 open |
| 10:21.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | Daniel10, I just gave you a search with the three xorg.conf options one of which you'll need to use (because I don't know the *exact* syntax right now) |
| 10:21.32 | darkbulb | perhaps even 25 |
| 10:21.42 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: ah. I was thinking of getting you a different plug |
| 10:22.06 | izua | nope. checked. |
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| 10:22.14 | izua | nothing but :80. |
| 10:22.23 | izua | forgot about the 443 though |
| 10:22.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, corkscrew it is |
| 10:22.27 | fbh | izua: and 53.. dns :) |
| 10:22.28 | darkbulb | you ran an nmap sweep 1-65536 TCP/UD{ |
| 10:22.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | fbh, dns is udp, though |
| 10:22.46 | izua | but that's udp? |
| 10:22.49 | darkbulb | not for zone transfers |
| 10:22.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | and dns can be served from an internal machine |
| 10:23.01 | izua | darkbulb, i only have windows there :P |
| 10:23.15 | darkbulb | nmap has a windows variant |
| 10:23.22 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: I've put a mickey mouse plug on an old laptop. Works fine, but the downside is that it's perfectly possible to put mains power straight on the laptops motherboard |
| 10:23.27 | lvh | CutMeOwnThroat: which it will obviously not like. |
| 10:23.45 | izua | all i want is to access my box from college |
| 10:24.05 | izua | i can't really install a lot there, there's antiexecutable and the other crap, deepfreeze around |
| 10:24.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | lvh, hehe :) |
| 10:24.20 | izua | but putty is allowed, so i'll use that |
| 10:24.38 | darkbulb | can you use netcat or cyrptcat |
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| 10:24.43 | fbh | you can use putty on port 80? |
| 10:24.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure |
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| 10:25.02 | fbh | well you can do that then use ssh tunnels |
| 10:25.03 | izua | darkbulb: standard windows installation dude |
| 10:25.18 | izua | i can, but i'll have to change my ssh daemon port |
| 10:25.24 | izua | so essentially what i'm asking |
| 10:25.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | corkscrew corkscrew corkscrew corkscrew corkscrew corkscrew corkscrewcorkscrew |
| 10:25.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | my |
| 10:25.59 | izua | is there a free, online, windows-accessible service to which i'll connect on port 80 and it will redirect me to port 23? |
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| 10:26.12 | izua | how do i run corkscrew on a windows box that won't allow me to install anything? |
| 10:26.18 | izua | :P |
| 10:26.24 | izua | corkscrew is cool though |
| 10:26.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | mm |
| 10:26.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'mn tired |
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| 10:26.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | man's got a point there, though |
| 10:26.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | but no, there is no such service |
| 10:27.08 | darkbulb | if you want to go from the college box to home configure a listening daemon via cryptcat or zebedee on your home box |
| 10:27.11 | fbh | izua: hmmn.. why cant you change the ssh daemon port? |
| 10:27.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | he runs a webserver and can't decide |
| 10:27.28 | darkbulb | and simply connect using college machine via telnet/ssh |
| 10:27.36 | darkbulb | college is client hhome server |
| 10:28.01 | fbh | get an additional IP address then |
| 10:28.06 | darkbulb | :) |
| 10:28.09 | izua | this is romania. |
| 10:28.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | but actually corkscrew DOES also run under windows |
| 10:28.16 | izua | there's no such thing unless $$$$ |
| 10:28.26 | izua | heh, i think i'll run it on 443 |
| 10:28.28 | izua | might be a good idea |
| 10:28.36 | darkbulb | if you have two boxes then you have two ips |
| 10:28.37 | izua | i'll have to check if i can punch through that, though. |
| 10:28.44 | izua | yes, network ips :) |
| 10:29.02 | darkbulb | I just told you how to tunnel between them |
| 10:29.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, how about incoming traffic? |
| 10:29.41 | izua | uuuh, there's not a lot i can experiment with, in windows |
| 10:29.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | any incoming ports allowed? |
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| 10:29.54 | fbh | izua: Or you could buy some cheap VPS somewhere and tunnel through that? |
| 10:29.54 | darkbulb | obviously |
| 10:30.05 | izua | i don't know. it's tought to test that under xp |
| 10:30.23 | izua | with a thing that kills any exe that's not on its whitelist |
| 10:30.30 | izua | tought->tough |
| 10:30.36 | izua | heh, of course |
| 10:30.44 | izua | mrr |
| 10:30.49 | izua | that explains why cpanel wasn't working |
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| 10:30.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually |
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| 10:30.55 | izua | godfreakingdammit |
| 10:31.25 | darkbulb | http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml |
| 10:32.06 | izua | runs on :80? |
| 10:32.12 | izua | oooh wait |
| 10:32.17 | izua | i can corkscrew through that, right? |
| 10:32.28 | darkbulb | correct |
| 10:32.36 | darkbulb | its a free outside serve |
| 10:32.44 | izua | i used to have one at openshells |
| 10:32.54 | darkbulb | use like a clear proxy and your okay |
| 10:33.13 | darkbulb | ie dont expect anything to be private |
| 10:33.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | couldn't you configure FF to open putty on certain documents? |
| 10:33.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | and put a suid-root sshd-calling script in cgi-bin of the webserver |
| 10:34.11 | izua | i'm not sure i get that |
| 10:34.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm not sure that would work |
| 10:34.24 | izua | so.. |
| 10:34.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | but if it would, that would be tremendous fun |
| 10:34.33 | izua | certain documents to a ssh tunnel |
| 10:34.36 | darkbulb | *drooling |
| 10:34.37 | izua | or a special document? |
| 10:34.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkbulb, you get what I mean? |
| 10:34.46 | izua | while the others are regular ones on the server? |
| 10:34.58 | darkbulb | yes - it sounds like fun |
| 10:35.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, a cgi-bin |
| 10:35.28 | lbt | if I logon to a debian box, what's the best way to query the debian version? |
| 10:35.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | cgi-bin can execute arbitrary programs, why not sshd with some options (or a script that execs sshd with those otpions) |
| 10:35.44 | darkbulb | considering were in enemy territory as far as whos network this is id rather he get the hell out of the college userspace |
| 10:36.00 | darkbulb | and then figure out how things run |
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| 10:36.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 10:36.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think it wouldn't work |
| 10:36.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | because sshd opens its own port |
| 10:37.12 | darkbulb | I think its highly doubtful too |
| 10:37.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | while all apache children access port 80 through one apache process which runs as root |
| 10:37.21 | fbh | lbt: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 10:37.46 | lbt | fbh: ta - I'd never noticed that |
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| 10:39.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, sshd would need to read/write stdin/stdout instead of the port |
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| 10:40.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's how cgi-bin work |
| 10:41.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | on the other hand, you *can* at least start sshd from inetd |
| 10:43.56 | darkbulb | http://www.darkstarllc.com/services/other/shell-hosting/?referer=egghelp-shell-list - they may allow login via SFTP over 80 if you ask nice |
| 10:44.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, should probably read this http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/ |
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| 10:45.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, that should work without ssl |
| 10:45.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | no real need to encrypt an ssh connection a 2nd time for the tunnel |
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| 10:50.52 | darkbulb | Duh CutMeOwnThroat we forgot backtrack as an option\ |
| 10:51.07 | darkbulb | or another live distro |
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| 10:56.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, easypie |
| 10:56.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | putty also allows an http-proxy |
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| 10:56.37 | boskar | CutMeOwnThroat: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep keyboard results in "(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device." |
| 10:56.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | at least the Debian one does |
| 10:56.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | boskar, yes, I read |
| 10:56.53 | boskar | any ideas? |
| 10:57.00 | boskar | what should I do now? |
| 10:57.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | despair? |
| 10:57.28 | boskar | no |
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| 10:58.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | or you could look at bug 492140 |
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| 10:58.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=492140 |
| 10:58.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, perhaps I didn't get the correct bug |
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| 10:59.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | but checking the bts is a good idea |
| 10:59.32 | boskar | ok |
| 10:59.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | google spit that bug out on the error you pasted |
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| 11:01.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=xorg-server |
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| 11:02.07 | boskar | ok,thx, will look for sth |
| 11:02.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is only for the src-package... |
| 11:02.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm not sure if things filed for the binary packages will end up ther |
| 11:02.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | but others have had the sme problem |
| 11:02.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | should have remembered bts earlier, sorry :) |
| 11:03.03 | boskar | :-) |
| 11:03.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | izua, you can just set up apache as a proxy - possibly limiting it to just localhost and putty to use an http proxy |
| 11:04.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops, 6 in the morning |
| 11:04.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | :( |
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| 11:05.17 | boskar | :/ |
| 11:05.26 | boskar | 1 PM here ;) |
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| 11:07.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | cool, one could use proxypass to map ONLY to the ssh port |
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| 11:09.11 | boskar | hm, my problem could be hal related |
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| 11:09.52 | boskar | (II) This server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. (...) |
| 11:10.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, saw that in the 1st bugreport I pasted here |
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| 11:10.47 | enouf | grep drv var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:10.57 | enouf | er.. grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:10.57 | boskar | i don't know if hal can handle ps/2 devices..? |
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| 11:11.15 | enouf | lshal |
| 11:11.15 | sphenxes01 | what is the program in linux that works like dreamweaver? |
| 11:11.18 | boskar | enouf: intel_dev only |
| 11:11.21 | boskar | drv* |
| 11:11.29 | enouf | boskar: no bueno |
| 11:11.52 | enouf | if you intend to use a keyboard and/or mouse |
| 11:12.12 | boskar | sure, but what to do? |
| 11:12.26 | boskar | lshal - long output, grep for what? |
| 11:12.32 | enouf | plug in your mouse? modprobe psmouse ? |
| 11:12.51 | boskar | plugged, module compiled in kernel |
| 11:13.10 | boskar | keyboard does not work either in xorg |
| 11:13.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | sphenxes01, bluefish? |
| 11:13.29 | enouf | does cat /proc/bus/input/devices show you your ps/2 devices? |
| 11:13.54 | boskar | enouf: yes |
| 11:14.02 | enouf | what module compiled in kernel? surely not debian |
| 11:14.17 | boskar | my own kernel based on linux-source from debian |
| 11:14.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | boskar, anything in kdm.log? |
| 11:14.33 | enouf | go back and build it correctly |
| 11:14.43 | boskar | it's ok, it worked 2 days ago |
| 11:14.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | (or gdm.log depending what you use) |
| 11:15.26 | enouf | reboot .. hehe |
| 11:15.30 | boskar | gdm.log - nothing interesting |
| 11:15.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | this comes quite close http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=422430 |
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| 11:17.16 | boskar | Ctrl Alt backspace does not work also |
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| 11:18.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do you know it didn't crash |
| 11:18.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | no mouse, no kbd... |
| 11:18.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, nite |
| 11:18.42 | boskar | sshd listens |
| 11:18.59 | boskar | and i managed to stop gdm |
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| 11:19.46 | boskar | i'll try to use usb mouse and kbd |
| 11:20.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 11:20.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | so how do you know X *runs*? |
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| 11:22.27 | boskar | hm... |
| 11:23.07 | boskar | i don't know |
| 11:23.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | cursor blinks? |
| 11:23.36 | boskar | blinks :-) |
| 11:23.52 | boskar | so it must be running |
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| 11:24.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, let me know when you figured it out :) |
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| 11:24.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | nite |
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| 11:24.51 | boskar | k |
| 11:24.53 | boskar | ok |
| 11:25.12 | boskar | usb mouse does not work either |
| 11:25.22 | boskar | brb |
| 11:25.28 | boskar | reboot |
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| 11:30.26 | bolt | I have a weird issue with my prompt. I narrowed it down to this testcase: a directory named "really long pathname here. this pathname is in fact extremely long because of one single directory" in my homedir and the prompt "PS1=line1\n\[\e[1;30m\]\w\[\e[0;37m\]test\[\e[00m\]". in a 80x24 terminal, this causes the cursor to appear in the middle of the prompt's second line when inside the test directory. using bash 3.2.48(1)-release / squeeze. help? |
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| 11:31.39 | antii | how can i get my smb client on desktop? (gnome) |
| 11:31.47 | enouf | hrm .. where's you \033 s? |
| 11:33.42 | bolt | enouf: got the \e from some googling. does the same job as \033 |
| 11:34.07 | enouf | and wtf with the \n there? |
| 11:34.11 | bolt | enouf: replacing each \e with \033 does exactly the same thing though |
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| 11:34.34 | bolt | enouf: the \n is because i want a two line prompt. removing it fixes the issue, but i want two lines |
| 11:34.45 | enouf | what? |
| 11:34.54 | enouf | wtf is a two line prompt? |
| 11:35.27 | enouf | you mean you want double spacing concerning the text display? |
| 11:35.49 | bolt | http://stevelosh.com/site-media/storage/blog/2009-03-17-prompt/prompt-without-branch.png |
| 11:35.51 | bolt | something like that |
| 11:35.53 | bolt | two lines |
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| 11:36.39 | bagcum | What would be the equivalent of openbsd-inetd in debian 5.0? (I need to restart the inetd server) |
| 11:36.46 | bolt | http://www.penguinpetes.com/images/Bash_Prompt_4.jpg <-- another one |
| 11:37.03 | enouf | that's just stupid |
| 11:37.43 | enouf | i would hope all shells break when people attempt such nonsense |
| 11:38.26 | krisfremen | that's a weird ass console |
| 11:38.33 | tuantub | bolt: what you may do is to modify PS1 variable |
| 11:38.34 | krisfremen | i would never use a beta like that |
| 11:39.05 | bolt | tuantub: that's what i'm doing |
| 11:39.20 | joeytwiddle | cygwin's default bash prompt is a 2-liner |
| 11:39.29 | krisfremen | yep |
| 11:39.30 | enouf | omfgoodness @ that jpg .. |
| 11:39.39 | krisfremen | i like cygwin's def prompt |
| 11:39.53 | bagcum | I'll reprhase my question: how can I install the inetd server in debian 5.0? |
| 11:40.01 | tuantub | bolt : put at the end of PS1 \n then you have there your linebreak |
| 11:40.08 | enouf | cygwin sucks ass .. i'd expect it to have some assinine built in.. |
| 11:40.18 | joeytwiddle | maybe cygwin did that because they expect your CWD to be a loong word ;) |
| 11:40.41 | enouf | bagcum: openbsd-inetd is the pkg, IIRC |
| 11:40.43 | nkuttler | bagcum: apt-cache search inetd |
| 11:40.47 | boskar | solved! |
| 11:40.55 | bagcum | ok |
| 11:41.13 | bolt | enouf: why not try to help instead of complaining about my prompt preferences? the \n is specified in the bash manual, section 6.9 about prompts. newlines in prompts is far from unusual |
| 11:41.38 | enouf | bolt: afaic .. it's stupid |
| 11:41.49 | bolt | why? |
| 11:42.15 | krisfremen | bolt: i use a two line promts |
| 11:42.18 | krisfremen | prompt* |
| 11:42.32 | nkuttler | if your prompt is very long it makes sense to start the input always at the same column |
| 11:42.47 | enouf | long prompts also suck ass |
| 11:42.51 | nkuttler | i'd rather avoid long prompts though |
| 11:42.52 | tuantub | bolt: try : PS1='\e[0;35m (o_ \n(o_ (o_ //\ \n(/)_ (\\)_ V_/_ \n==================\n Debian Lenny \\ \\\n\e[m\e[0;32m${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\e[m\w\$ ' |
| 11:42.54 | joeytwiddle | bolt: this is normal for IRC; ignore the troll don't feed it! |
| 11:43.02 | enouf | ~$ <== a prompt |
| 11:43.10 | bolt | the way i currenly have my prompt setup, i show the current time, exit status from last command, cpu load and user@host on the first line, and the path on the second line. i find it very useful |
| 11:43.20 | nkuttler | i have pwd in it, date and other stuff is handled by screen |
| 11:43.23 | boskar | So, my problem with mouse and keyboard really was related with my own kernel - the problem was in support of evdev |
| 11:43.30 | krisfremen | PS1="\[\e]0;\w\a\]\n\[\e[32m\]\$(date +%y%m%d%H%M%S)@\u@\h \[\e[33m\]\w\[\e[0m\]\n\$ " |
| 11:43.33 | tuantub | bolt: try : PS1='\e[0;35m (o_ \n(o_ (o_ //\ \n(/)_ (\\)_ V_/_ \n==================\n Debian Lenny \\ \\\n\e[m\e[0;32m${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\e[m\w\$\n ' |
| 11:43.34 | krisfremen | that's my current PS1 |
| 11:43.40 | enouf | haha |
| 11:43.46 | krisfremen | xD |
| 11:43.53 | enouf | and you ask me why it's stupidity? |
| 11:44.35 | krisfremen | different people have different tastes... |
| 11:44.37 | enouf | boskar: what's wrong with evdev? |
| 11:44.39 | joeytwiddle | bolt: just a thought: try using \r\n instead of \n - it might "reset" things more |
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| 11:44.53 | enouf | ... |
| 11:45.00 | nkuttler | my PS1 does hostname coloring etc. too many boxens |
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| 11:45.12 | enouf | don't you dare use carraige returns in linux |
| 11:45.31 | krisfremen | rofl |
| 11:45.40 | enouf | for other hosts, sure .. dirs w/color |
| 11:45.46 | bolt | enouf: wrong side of the bed this morning? |
| 11:46.05 | enouf | bolt: nah .. i just feel like busting some chops ;-) |
| 11:46.22 | nkuttler | oh, and tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/ |
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| 11:47.35 | boskar | enouf: my kernel hadn't support for kernel events delivery, probably |
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| 11:47.48 | bolt | nkuttler: I'm currently using http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html the newline is specified there |
| 11:48.14 | enouf | boskar: so it is indeed an issue with your self compiled kernel then |
| 11:48.43 | boskar | enouf: yes, but really not related with ps2 driver or anything like this |
| 11:48.53 | nkuttler | woah, the examples section has some seriously ugly prompts |
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| 11:49.38 | boskar | I really would not think of things like event delivering in this case |
| 11:49.43 | enouf | wishes someone would awaken greycat over in #bash (where bolt is also asking) |
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| 11:49.56 | nkuttler | :) |
| 11:50.18 | asg|nb | enouf: he isn't around as often on the weekends |
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| 11:50.24 | mibb_ | does anyone know why hcitool dev doesn't show a device although lsusb shows it? |
| 11:51.17 | enouf | asg|nb: ah |
| 11:51.29 | enouf | asg|nb: tell bolt to ask during the weekdays :-:P |
| 11:51.55 | asg|nb | I think the reception would not be good, but what do I know |
| 11:52.06 | enouf | mibb_: is it BT? |
| 11:52.07 | bolt | enouf: relax already. we all understand you don't like multiline prompts now |
| 11:52.29 | enouf | it's about time! |
| 11:52.49 | bolt | enouf: about time someone tells you what you could have worked out on your own? |
| 11:53.14 | enouf | chill out hon ... i'm just teasing .. |
| 11:53.29 | enouf | don't get your panties all in a wad |
| 11:53.32 | mibb_ | enoufh, bluetooth yes |
| 11:53.37 | bolt | enouf: i'll send you a screenshot when it works :P |
| 11:53.39 | mibb_ | -h |
| 11:53.42 | enouf | heh |
| 11:54.10 | enouf | mibb_: what does lsusb show about it? and check dmesg |
| 11:54.35 | ghang | what is the package name to make debian desktop work like an ubuntu desktop allow transperent and blending window |
| 11:54.36 | sphenxes01 | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks |
| 11:55.22 | mibb_ | enouf, lsusb shows Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360 Bluetooth and syslog Parsing /etc/bluetooth/main.conf failed: No such file or directory but seems to start hcid |
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| 11:56.07 | enouf | mibb_: find the device/vendor ID pair and google it ... |
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| 11:57.04 | enouf | lsusb -v if needed |
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| 11:59.08 | adac | how can I set up an init script so that it starts earlier than other init scripts? |
| 11:59.22 | enouf | adac: why? |
| 11:59.43 | nkuttler | adac: see man update-rc.d, it's alphabetic order |
| 11:59.46 | enouf | see /etc/init.d/skeleton for starters |
| 12:00.01 | enouf | but note; you will break shit most times |
| 12:00.07 | boskar | enouf: So maybe You know what module should i add to my kernel to make evdev work with hal? |
| 12:00.10 | mibb_ | enouf yeah I got the id, but what should I find exactly? |
| 12:00.31 | adac | enouf, because i have encrypted (truecrypt) home tmp and var and var for example needs to be mounted before the system tries to access it |
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| 12:01.00 | enouf | boskar: nope - it doesn't depend on any others it seems |
| 12:01.01 | nkuttler | hm, aren't there debian tools for encryption? |
| 12:01.36 | adac | nkuttler, yes there are |
| 12:01.38 | enouf | adac: then place /var to the top of /etc/fstab |
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| 12:02.27 | adac | enouf, well i need to mount that over an init script with truecrypt (for password issues) |
| 12:02.34 | TLF | hello |
| 12:02.34 | enouf | mibb_: add 'linux' to your search query .. find out if there's support for it |
| 12:02.35 | adac | so I cannot do that in fstab |
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| 12:03.27 | mikechelen | adac, you could use luks & dmcrypt or fuse & encfs |
| 12:03.27 | mibb_ | enouf, I found an article about the hardware on this laptop on linux, everything is supported, and it says that exactly this device works out of the box... that's why I'm confused.. |
| 12:04.06 | adac | mikechelen, I know that would work too! But i wanted to do that with truecrypt just for curiosity |
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| 12:04.43 | mikechelen | adac, hmm there might be truecrypt specific method |
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| 12:04.59 | mikechelen | think there is some conflict between tc and debian licensing |
| 12:05.00 | bagcum | getting this when trying to restart inetd: "Restarting internet superserver: inetdNot starting internet superserver: no services enabled" |
| 12:05.00 | enouf | mibb_: well .. you got me then .. i never used any BT devices .. are all relevant bluez pkgs installed? might you also need/want LIRC support for the device? |
| 12:05.40 | adac | mikechelen, there is. but only for encrypted /home see http://privat.heinzelzwerg.de/howtos/debian/truecrypt/index.html |
| 12:05.46 | enouf | wonders how well eCryptfs is coming along |
| 12:06.06 | mikechelen | enouf, is that what ubuntu uses for Private dir? |
| 12:06.10 | mibb_ | enouf yeah everything is installed... and no support needed.. |
| 12:06.17 | adac | this tutorial works fine. now i just need to find out how to start that init script a bit earlier |
| 12:06.24 | enouf | mikechelen: what is ubuntu? |
| 12:06.41 | mikechelen | enouf, another linux distro based on debian |
| 12:06.46 | adac | enouf, the african debian |
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| 12:06.48 | adac | :) |
| 12:06.55 | enouf | mibb_: lovely - try tuxmobil.org maybe |
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| 12:07.20 | mikechelen | adac, that guide is pretty long (and german) what is the overall method? |
| 12:07.30 | ph8 | hi everyone, it appears my lenny machine has been installed with PDT as the timezone - how can i change this to Europe/Amsterdam? I've used tzselect but i think that's a user specific thing rather than setting the actual machine's time? |
| 12:07.44 | mibb_ | enouf, http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=40181 looks like I need win to activate it .. wtf?! :) |
| 12:08.01 | enouf | WTF!? |
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| 12:09.02 | adac | mikechelen, well basically: You make aown partition ext3 or ext2. then encrypt that partition with truecrypt. then m,ove your home directory to the encrypted partition, set a softlink for home on your linux partition |
| 12:09.30 | adac | then place the init script and at satrt up enter the password an the encrypted device is mounted |
| 12:10.09 | adac | the init scripts you can get at this paranoid debian page |
| 12:10.13 | adac | works pretty well |
| 12:10.32 | adac | slight modifications on the init scripts must be taken althoug |
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| 12:10.37 | mikechelen | yeah, can see why using for other mount points like /var might be difficult though |
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| 12:11.03 | mikechelen | you know the debian installer has an option to encrypt / now right? |
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| 12:11.25 | adac | mikechelen, yeah that is the problem. I need to set up that init mount script a bit earlier so that var is already booted at the point the kernel wants to write in it |
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| 12:12.01 | adac | mikechelen, yeah i know...I'm just playing around with truecrypt |
| 12:12.29 | cga | hi all how do you reccommend to partition 20GB HDD for a server that has to have LAMP + MAIL + WebDAV ? |
| 12:12.39 | cga | FAQ welocme =) |
| 12:13.19 | enouf | cga: some general info and more here http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Linux/FAQs/partition.html |
| 12:13.32 | cga | i guess /var/ should be the biggest but i don't know about postfix dovecot and suchs where they store email |
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| 12:13.41 | cga | thanks enouf, gonna read trhat |
| 12:13.55 | adac | And well it is strange...are we all already so used to the automatic ways of our distros that nobody really does know how to let an init script start up earlier than another one ;) |
| 12:13.56 | nkuttler | with only one hd id use one partition |
| 12:14.26 | adac | *does know anymore |
| 12:14.45 | nkuttler | adac: i thought i had told you |
| 12:14.50 | cga | nkuttler: well it's not really one hdd. it is a RPS with option to expand space 10GB at the time. that's why i want to separate things |
| 12:15.01 | enouf | adac: you've been told how already |
| 12:15.06 | enouf | what's the issue? |
| 12:15.14 | adac | nkuttler, ohh I missed your post sorry!!! |
| 12:15.23 | _spOOn_ | hey, can anyone help me with my iptables/forwarding issue? involving multiple networks? |
| 12:15.41 | cga | _spOOn_: #iptables might help |
| 12:15.50 | _spOOn_ | thanks cga |
| 12:15.54 | cga | np |
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| 12:16.24 | enouf | adac: and it's not alphabetical order, it's numeric order |
| 12:16.42 | adac | enouf, right! |
| 12:16.45 | nkuttler | alphanumeric i'd guess |
| 12:16.50 | adac | lol |
| 12:16.52 | adac | :D |
| 12:17.18 | enouf | well sure, if you want to call SNN / KNN == alphanumeric :-P |
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| 12:18.01 | nkuttler | i'd expect S21a to run before S21b |
| 12:18.20 | enouf | adac: take a peek at the bootmisc.sh script |
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| 12:19.12 | enouf | nkuttler: many of them run concurrently even .. even when their NNs are a bit apart .. it depends what they are doing |
| 12:19.53 | adac | enouf, nkuttler yeah I think that are only runlevels that you can set, or am I wrong? |
| 12:20.11 | nkuttler | enouf: oh really? did that change somewhen in the past? |
| 12:20.30 | enouf | adac: did you forget a noun or a verb in your question? |
| 12:20.32 | nkuttler | adac: see man update-rc.d |
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| 12:20.48 | alecxg | Hi. |
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| 12:20.55 | enouf | nkuttler: not that i know of .. it's always been so AFAIR |
| 12:21.12 | alecxg | Does anyone know how I would go about connecting to a FlashVPN? |
| 12:21.13 | nkuttler | ok |
| 12:21.30 | adac | nkuttler, enouf Oh man pages gives me frequently a headache |
| 12:21.42 | nkuttler | adac: use windows |
| 12:21.47 | alecxg | I already configured the server, but where do I go to connect? |
| 12:22.31 | adac | nkuttler, well I did some years ago...caused me migraine |
| 12:22.33 | adac | :) |
| 12:22.41 | enouf | nkuttler: i'm talking about how say; S21 contains a check, test, mount and modprobe command .. that last modprobe command might be done after or during say S30 doing something else ... |
| 12:23.15 | KC | and apparently the core 2 solo chip isn't 64 bit :( |
| 12:23.26 | nkuttler | enouf: hm, didn't know that. i always thought it's in sequence |
| 12:23.51 | enouf | nkuttler: i ascertain this from reviewing logs and timestamps .. though i'm no guru or anything when it comes to sysv init and sucj |
| 12:24.09 | minerale | how can I make a directory such that files can be written but not deleted? (ext3) |
| 12:24.09 | enouf | such* |
| 12:24.44 | enouf | minerale: set the files within it as immutable? |
| 12:24.50 | minerale | yeah |
| 12:25.03 | nkuttler | enouf: hm, don't think so, see /etc/init.d/rc, concurrency |
| 12:25.10 | enouf | minerale: well ... also .. deleted by whom? |
| 12:25.24 | minerale | by the users who created them, enouf |
| 12:25.25 | enouf | nkuttler: /me is looking now |
| 12:25.30 | minerale | enouf: ie: /public |
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| 12:26.41 | alecxg | Anyone? Kind of in a rush. :( |
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| 12:27.17 | mibb_ | enouf: ok, I tried the default kernel of the installation and the device is listed there, if you have time could you maybe look at the loaded modules of the old and new kernels and tell me what the hell is missing? :) http://gist.github.com/93547 |
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| 12:28.10 | enouf | nkuttler: that appears to indicate that it's a VAR that can be set and used ... |
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| 12:28.21 | nkuttler | yeah |
| 12:28.28 | licantrup | I am new to debian. Navigating with Iceweasel is a pain sometimes but I read that is just the same than firefox. How could I make it behaves better? |
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| 12:28.49 | enouf | mine is default set to none though .. so i'd guess most installs are |
| 12:28.50 | alecxg | What's wrong with it, licantrup? |
| 12:28.51 | nkuttler | licantrup: i just install ff.. |
| 12:29.02 | alecxg | ^ |
| 12:29.23 | licantrup | well it is slow in some webpages |
| 12:29.26 | alecxg | Okay, anyone know what I need to do to be able to use the command 'gmake'? |
| 12:29.30 | Axz | Guys how to flush dns in debian? |
| 12:29.30 | alecxg | apt-get install something? |
| 12:29.35 | licantrup | the mousescroll doesn't work well |
| 12:29.49 | nkuttler | enouf: oh, i just see it's only for scripts with the same number |
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| 12:29.56 | licantrup | the videos does't play sometimes |
| 12:30.04 | licantrup | don't know what format they are |
| 12:30.06 | enouf | mibb_: you';re going to have to work that out yourself, or .. ask again to the channel |
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| 12:30.20 | enouf | nkuttler: ahh |
| 12:30.43 | abrotman | alecxg: use 'make' |
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| 12:30.45 | mibb_ | enouf: ok thx |
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| 12:31.27 | alecxg | abrotman; I still get command not found. |
| 12:31.39 | abrotman | !b-e alecxg |
| 12:31.39 | dpkg | alecxg: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 12:32.09 | alecxg | If you mean: sudo apt-get install build-essential, I already did that. |
| 12:32.34 | enouf | cd into source dir/ |
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| 12:33.12 | alecxg | Which is located at? |
| 12:33.13 | enouf | er .. hrm .. actually, you should see this if installed make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
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| 12:33.27 | abrotman | alecxg: which version of debian is this? |
| 12:33.34 | alecxg | Most recent. |
| 12:33.36 | alecxg | stable. |
| 12:33.37 | enouf | you want me to tell you where you installed your source code? :-P |
| 12:34.13 | abrotman | the 'build-essential' package in lenny requires make |
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| 12:35.10 | alecxg | Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done build-essential is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 12:35.36 | abrotman | alecxg: dpkg -l build-essential | tail -1 .. what does it say ? |
| 12:36.04 | alecxg | ii build-essential 11.4 Informational list of build-essential packages |
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| 12:36.14 | liable | \best to see wtf he is doing to make him think something is broken |
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| 12:36.29 | alecxg | I never said anything was broken. |
| 12:36.45 | abby_ | hello @ every1 |
| 12:36.59 | enouf | alecxg: well ,, it is |
| 12:36.59 | abrotman | alecxg: paste `apt-cache policy && apt-cache policy make` in a pastebin .. paste.debian.net |
| 12:37.06 | azeem | alecxg: why do you want to run gmake anyway? |
| 12:37.17 | alecxg | Ti ubstakk VutcgX. |
| 12:37.19 | azeem | alecxg: it's called simply make on GNU system |
| 12:37.24 | alecxg | To install BitchX.* |
| 12:37.24 | azeem | s |
| 12:37.32 | azeem | alecxg: so fix their build system |
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| 12:37.35 | alecxg | I get the same error with make. |
| 12:37.43 | Axz | Guys how to flush dns in debian? |
| 12:37.58 | azeem | alecxg: eh, what error? |
| 12:37.59 | enouf | restart your browsers |
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| 12:38.23 | alecxg | make: /usr/local/bin/bash: Command not found make: *** [default] Error 127 |
| 12:38.39 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 12:38.48 | azeem | alecxg: what does "dpkg -l make " | tail -1 say? |
| 12:38.50 | alecxg | I'm new, go easy on me. :/ |
| 12:38.58 | azeem | eh |
| 12:38.59 | abrotman | but you compiled your own bash ? |
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| 12:39.09 | azeem | alecxg: what does "dpkg -l make | tail -1" say? |
| 12:39.24 | alecxg | ii make 3.81-5 The GNU version of the "make" utility. |
| 12:39.31 | abrotman | alecxg: have you tried irssi? bitchx is dead upstream |
| 12:39.45 | liable | he clearly had b-e installed, its his /bin/local of bash thats the problem |
| 12:39.48 | azeem | alecxg: what does "md5sum /usr/bin/make" say? |
| 12:39.50 | abrotman | alecxg: what does `echo $PATH` say ? |
| 12:40.00 | alecxg | Yeah, I guess I'll just use irssi, until I get around to getting XChat. |
| 12:40.20 | alecxg | azeem: 6e6b71539fab6aa072ec9d1b23fcc32d /usr/bin/make |
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| 12:40.26 | liable | alecxg: how did you get a local copy of bash installed? |
| 12:40.37 | alecxg | abrotman: 6e6b71539fab6aa072ec9d1b23fcc32d /usr/bin/make |
| 12:40.40 | alecxg | liable; what do you mean? |
| 12:40.43 | abrotman | that's not what i asked |
| 12:40.46 | abrotman | alecxg: what does `echo $PATH` say ? |
| 12:40.49 | alecxg | abrotman: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin * |
| 12:40.49 | azeem | alecxg: "/usr/local/bin/bash" |
| 12:40.59 | abrotman | alecxg: why did you compile your own bash ? |
| 12:41.05 | alecxg | What do you mean? |
| 12:41.09 | azeem | alecxg: look |
| 12:41.10 | enouf | hah |
| 12:41.12 | azeem | alecxg: is this your computer? |
| 12:41.15 | alecxg | Yes. |
| 12:41.20 | azeem | alecxg: did you compile bash? |
| 12:41.24 | liable | alecxg: you have bash installed in a place thats not the usual spot |
| 12:41.27 | azeem | then you got cracked, maybe |
| 12:41.47 | enouf | "piped" would be more apropos :-P |
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| 12:42.20 | fatalerrors | do you why amarok 2.x is still unavailable with sid? |
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| 12:44.23 | liable | alecxg: so, have you been compiling stuff, are you using debian, or you may have indeed been hacked. |
| 12:44.50 | alecxg | I haven't been hacked. |
| 12:45.02 | liable | and the other two questions? |
| 12:45.08 | fatalerrors | i think kde 4.2.2 is ok with sid so it will be interesting to have a maximum number of qt/kde appli, cause that way i coul'd be able to uninstall kdelibs3 :) |
| 12:45.17 | azeem | alecxg: you haven't explained the presence of /usr/local/bin/bash yet, either |
| 12:45.18 | abrotman | alecxg: bash --version .. says what ? |
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| 12:45.45 | alecxg | GNU bash, version 3.2.39(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. |
| 12:46.21 | liable | alecxg: it may seem like you are getting the third degree, but we are just trying to find out why you have a locally compiled version of bash in /usr/local |
| 12:46.47 | alecxg | Um, how would it get there in the first place |
| 12:46.47 | alecxg | ? |
| 12:47.14 | alecxg | All I pretty much did, was install Debian, run ./configure in BitchX, and apt-get install build-essential. |
| 12:47.16 | liable | by compiling it, by using some non-debian distro, by being hacked, by the FSM |
| 12:47.29 | alecxg | Along with install a few things through Synaptic. |
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| 12:47.43 | alecxg | I'm also dual-booting, if that would explain anything. |
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| 12:48.35 | jaggz- | I use ubuntu hoary hedgehog on this system, but since then went with debian for years, and now I'm going to update this ubuntu hoary system and I'm trying to pick between the two |
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| 12:48.58 | jaggz- | I use KDE in debian, and I kind of wonder if ubuntu's focus is on gnome.. maybe I'll just be wasting a lot of effort to use ubuntu |
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| 12:49.45 | joeytwiddle | try kubuntu |
| 12:50.04 | jaggz- | looking into it |
| 12:50.11 | azeem | alecxg: we don't know either |
| 12:50.13 | jhutchins | jaggz-: Yeah, kubuntu. Putting KDE on ubuntu is a bit futile. |
| 12:50.40 | jaggz- | the other consideration is that I develop on these systems.. so it might be the best choice, regardless, to keep them the same as the production systems, which are debian |
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| 12:52.23 | abby_ | jaggz-: my experience was that the Debian KDE3.x was less tweaked and more stable than Kubuntu. but I don't know about KDE4. Debian tends to be more stable than the *buntus (except for the Sid branche), but the software isn't as "fresh" as Ubuntu's |
| 12:55.52 | jaggz- | thanks you for the input |
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| 12:56.16 | jaggz- | -s |
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| 12:56.48 | jaggz- | http://polishlinux.org/choose/comparison/?distro1=Ubuntu&distro2=Debian |
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| 13:05.17 | enouf | !qotd0 |
| 13:05.18 | dpkg | <sussudio> !irritate ravenqr <dpkg> ravenqr: HELP ME!!! who uses cable hello? <ravenqr> dpkg: what you need bro? <dpkg> bugger all, i dunno, ravenqr <ravenqr> i have cable |
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| 13:08.08 | ugly | what's the name of the program that lets you identify what software is using a certain device, e.g a HD? |
| 13:08.21 | asg | ugly: lsof |
| 13:08.25 | ugly | thanks |
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| 13:09.16 | jpinx | ugly: best to pipe lsof through grep for something ;) |
| 13:09.21 | ugly | yeah |
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| 13:12.22 | jaggz- | I'd like to try zenwalk.. and on this older thinkpad it would be nice to have a low overhead os.. I just foresee needing to spend a lot more time when adding software packages and such |
| 13:12.46 | mikearthur | Does anyone know how I'd disable the "Debian" menu? |
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| 13:13.37 | jpinx | where do I get the best guide to setting up my laptop as a public server, behind a router and using only http and only on 8080 ? |
| 13:13.55 | enouf | mikearthur: disable? |
| 13:14.12 | mikearthur | I don't want it to show up for any users on my machine |
| 13:14.23 | mikearthur | presumably there's a setting for this somewhere |
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| 13:14.55 | jaggz- | why do these things use totem instead of mplayer? I don't think I've ever got totem to work |
| 13:14.56 | enouf | all i know is there's an update-menus command |
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| 13:16.05 | at0m | jpinx, behind a router you can set up the httpd/apache on any port, then forward the port 8080 from your router's WAN connection to the port set up/used by laptop's httpd/apache |
| 13:16.53 | at0m | jpinx, for example port forward port 8080 to port 80 |
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| 13:16.58 | jpinx | at0m: good morning:) thanks. I'm looking for a reliable how-to that is reasonably recent |
| 13:17.02 | mikearthur | enouf: apt-get remove menu works, cheers |
| 13:17.28 | jpinx | google throws thousands of how-to's at me but most are seriously out-of-date |
| 13:17.53 | at0m | jpinx, check on http://www.debian-administration.org |
| 13:18.18 | at0m | gotta go do some more work, but i'm sure they have it there |
| 13:18.38 | jpinx | ok - thanks - reading |
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| 13:21.31 | at0m | jpinx, good luck :) behind a router you're pretty well firewalled, so don't worry too much (just take care of what you're putting in /var/www, and for more security, forward some weird port number to port 80 on the laptop, like port 23984 or so then people need to go to yourip:23984 :) |
| 13:22.03 | at0m | jpinx, there's little chance port scanners will search there |
| 13:22.18 | at0m | bye :) |
| 13:22.51 | jaggz- | I set my router to forward web hits to a particular machine.. it's easy enough.. then you just setup that machine to use virtualhost recognition so it'll get the domain names right |
| 13:22.59 | jaggz- | the public ip being the router |
| 13:25.19 | jpinx | jaggz-: ok - I've found the gui admin page for port forwarding in the router. |
| 13:26.37 | jaggz- | you can set your public port to 80 or 8080.. I just use 80.. |
| 13:26.41 | jpinx | jaggz-: I'm using zoneedit for dns on my domain and hopefully they will send http requests on my domain to my dynamic IP - updated by their service - but on port 8080 to get around awkward ISP's |
| 13:26.45 | jaggz- | and 80 on the internal system too.. |
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| 13:27.25 | jaggz- | 8080 is up to the URL.. http:// is always default 80 |
| 13:27.36 | jpinx | then I'll take up what at0m suggested and forward that to some really off-the-wall port for additional security |
| 13:27.43 | jaggz- | unless overridden with :port |
| 13:28.24 | jaggz- | yeah, if it's all fine and dandy, feel free to have URLs like http://site.com:28093/ |
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| 13:28.51 | jpinx | jaggz-: ok - I'll need to see what I can get configured for port http - maybe better is I use https ? |
| 13:29.17 | pookey | hi all - I'm trying to upgrade and I have a few packages being kept back - and I can't see hwy. the output of apt-cache policy is here, http://pastebin.ca/1388816 I was hoping someone might be able to explain |
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| 13:29.29 | jaggz- | up to you |
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| 13:29.54 | jpinx | wonders about the advantage of https for normal use |
| 13:30.22 | jpinx | does the port number have to appear in the url if it's not 80 ? |
| 13:30.34 | vermin | hi, i've run "apt-get install libc6" (trying to install glibc) but when i try to compile my app i get "/usr/local/lib/libspotify.so: undefined reference to `__res_iclose@GLIBC_PRIVATE'" .. can anyone explain to me what i have to do? |
| 13:30.36 | pookey | no, 443 is implied by httpd |
| 13:30.38 | pookey | https even |
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| 13:31.04 | jpinx | I thought there are "automatic" failovers to some ports like 82 or 8080 |
| 13:31.08 | azeem | vermin: I guess fix your app to not use that glibc private stuff |
| 13:31.26 | azeem | vermin: are you really using something with two underscores (__res_iclose()) in it? |
| 13:31.41 | flower | try to build an kernel, but got: make-kpkg clean , command not found |
| 13:31.43 | pookey | jpinx: no - not by default, but I don't know what context you're talking about, I missed the start of the convo. |
| 13:32.13 | jpinx | pookey: where do I get the best guide to setting up my laptop as a public server, behind a router and using only http and only on 8080 ? |
| 13:32.20 | jpinx | that was the start |
| 13:32.50 | pookey | install apache, set it up to listen on port 8080, open a port forwardon your router, job done. |
| 13:33.10 | pookey | people will have to then go to http://your.ip.or.hostname:8080/ |
| 13:33.12 | jpinx | I guessed 8080 from previous reading, but everything on google is so out-of-date |
| 13:33.56 | jpinx | pookey: I'm using zoneedit for dns on my domain and hopefully they will send http requests on my domain to my dynamic IP - updated by their service - but on port 8080 to get around awkward ISP's |
| 13:34.23 | jpinx | pookey is there away to avoid having to enter the port number in the url? |
| 13:34.25 | pookey | if you host http on 8080, people will need to put it in the URL |
| 13:34.28 | pookey | no |
| 13:35.15 | OpenTokix | Change isp:s |
| 13:35.25 | jpinx | ok - that's what I needed to know, so i might as well stay with http on 80 and forward it from the external router to some high port number and then do it again in iptables |
| 13:35.48 | jpinx | OpenTokix: not an option :( |
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| 13:36.01 | flower | try to build an RT kernel, but got: make-kpkg clean , command not found |
| 13:36.05 | pookey | jpinx: why are you needing to mess with IP tables? |
| 13:36.06 | enouf | flower: cd into the dir? make-kpkg clean is for only if you've already compiled and want a cleanup done |
| 13:36.27 | flower | enouf: k |
| 13:36.29 | pookey | just forward port 8080 from your router to either 80 or 8080 on your internal host, depending on what port you put apache on. no ned for iptables |
| 13:36.37 | enouf | flower: "I'm trying to ..." is how it's said ;-) |
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| 13:36.52 | jpinx | pookey: atm I am behind an external router which I can configure, but that will not always be the case |
| 13:36.53 | bl4ckcomb_ | Hi, I'm trying to transfer data from an ufs2 filesystem (created earlier in freebsd) to debian. When I try to mount it I get an error that say I'm not privileged. Any suggestions? |
| 13:37.19 | vermin | azeem: i think that it is already compiled, is there not a way to install glibc ? im not very good at this :P |
| 13:37.25 | jpinx | pookey: and I need to drop anything incoming to any other ports |
| 13:37.26 | azeem | vermin: uh? |
| 13:37.28 | pookey | jpinx: if you're NATed, and behind a router, you'll need a port forward. if you don't have access to do that, you'll not be able to host an external service |
| 13:37.43 | vermin | azeem: this is what it says , "The library was compiled on Debian 5.0, with glibc 2.7, a.k.a. libc6, and using GCC 4.3.2 as the compiler. |
| 13:37.43 | vermin | Currently, the library will only work with 32-bit x86 code." |
| 13:37.45 | pookey | jpinx: if you're NATed, there won't be any new connections to other ports, as the router will be in the way |
| 13:37.47 | flower | enouf: time fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd -rev rg1 kernel_image kernel_headers, /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 176: make-kpkg: command not found |
| 13:37.58 | azeem | vermin: of course glibc is already installed, however, you are using an internal glibc symbols which is forbidden) |
| 13:38.07 | azeem | vermin: rewrite and then recompile your app to not do that |
| 13:38.15 | antii | where is the config for debian (daemons)? |
| 13:38.24 | vermin | azeem: ok thanks man :) i will check in to that |
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| 13:38.35 | azeem | vermin: did you write that app yourself? |
| 13:38.50 | enouf | flower: dpkg -l kernel-package | tail -n 1 says? |
| 13:39.15 | antii | dont debian got a conf file_ S> |
| 13:39.23 | azeem | antii: what are you looking for? |
| 13:39.27 | azeem | antii: all the conf files are under /etc |
| 13:39.31 | antii | azeem: to change daemons etc |
| 13:39.37 | azeem | change how? |
| 13:39.39 | flower | enouf: rc kernel-package 11.001-0.1 A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages |
| 13:39.47 | enouf | bl4ckcomb_: wouldn't that be better asked in a bsd channel? or do i misunderstand? |
| 13:39.53 | vermin | azeem: no it is the api for spotify that they released but im not good at this .. just trying to figure out things |
| 13:39.55 | enouf | flower: install it |
| 13:39.58 | jpinx | pookey: ok - if I can only do this where I cna configure the external router, then I just get it to drp all incoming on anything other than 80, and forward 80 to something strange on for apache |
| 13:40.24 | bl4ckcomb_ | enouf, there's nothing wrong in freebsd, the problem is that debian can't mount the drives |
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| 13:41.00 | bl4ckcomb_ | enouf, I've also tried by writing the data on a FAT32 drive, then when I mount the FAT32 drive in debian it apears empty |
| 13:41.01 | enouf | flower: rc == 'r'emove(d) and --purged (no 'c'onfig files left) |
| 13:41.39 | pookey | jpinx: i'm not sure I follow - sounds like you think this is more complicated then it is. all you need to do is specify a port forward on your router, it really is that simple. no need to setup firewalls. if your ISP blocks incomming port 80, then just use another commonish port, 81, 8080,or whatever - but that jsut means you setup the port forward differently. |
| 13:41.42 | enouf | bl4ckcomb_: doesn't ufs2 require special mount options? |
| 13:41.49 | bl4ckcomb_ | yes |
| 13:41.54 | enouf | like -44 something or another |
| 13:41.56 | bl4ckcomb_ | but it doesn't help |
| 13:41.59 | bl4ckcomb_ | indeed |
| 13:42.02 | bl4ckcomb_ | 44bsd |
| 13:42.11 | antii | enouf: _ |
| 13:42.12 | bl4ckcomb_ | but that didn't work either |
| 13:42.12 | flower | enouf: same error after installing rc |
| 13:42.16 | jpinx | goes to configure apache |
| 13:42.26 | jpinx | thanks pookey let's see what happens :) |
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| 13:42.28 | enouf | oh well .. check if "modinfo ufs(2)" shows anything useful - such as possible parms |
| 13:42.45 | enouf | flower: no no no .. hehe .. install kernel-package |
| 13:42.47 | pookey | hi all - I'm trying to upgrade and I have a few packages being kept back - and I can't see hwy. the output of apt-cache policy is here, http://pastebin.ca/1388816 I was hoping someone might be able to explain why it's not upgrading. |
| 13:43.03 | antii | enouf: dont debian have a "main config"? |
| 13:43.06 | jaggz- | I just yawned.. darnit.. |
| 13:43.09 | jaggz- | I have to go |
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| 13:43.23 | enouf | antii: i hve no idea what you mean |
| 13:43.33 | antii | enouf: there i can change language and so |
| 13:43.42 | enouf | !locales |
| 13:43.42 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
| 13:43.45 | antii | nono |
| 13:43.50 | antii | there is a config for that aswell :S |
| 13:43.51 | enouf | yesyes |
| 13:43.53 | enouf | :-P |
| 13:44.03 | antii | there you add daemons |
| 13:44.12 | jpinx | pookey: try aptitude safe-upgrade - it's smarter |
| 13:44.16 | flower | enouf: k ;) |
| 13:44.21 | pookey | ah, I figured it out |
| 13:44.26 | pookey | someone had put off stuff in the preferences file |
| 13:44.52 | jpinx | pookey: someone ? ;) |
| 13:44.55 | antii | enouf: you can change keyboard layout in there aswell |
| 13:44.58 | enouf | pookey: also, 'aptitude why pkgname' might offer useful info? |
| 13:45.07 | antii | someone must know the name of it :$ |
| 13:45.22 | enouf | antii: in where? GNOME? KDE? xfce4? |
| 13:45.24 | pookey | jpinx: it's not my server :) |
| 13:45.26 | antii | enouf: gnome |
| 13:45.30 | antii | gah >_> |
| 13:45.39 | enouf | antii: i don't know, i'd use setxkbmap |
| 13:45.48 | pookey | enouf: thanks, I'll remember that for next time. never actually used aptitude |
| 13:45.59 | enouf | pookey: me neither :-O |
| 13:45.59 | antii | enouf: how does that work then |
| 13:46.12 | jpinx | !tell pookey about why aptitude |
| 13:46.16 | enouf | antii: /msg dpkg gnome and ask people who use it |
| 13:46.33 | jpinx | !tell enouf about why aptitude |
| 13:46.34 | enouf | antii: maybe you need some applets pkg or something |
| 13:46.41 | jpinx | ducks |
| 13:46.44 | enouf | jpinx: stop that |
| 13:46.50 | antii | enouf: ah it was in xorg.conf i had to add some line under the "keyboard" section |
| 13:46.52 | pookey | meh, I'm happy with apt-get :) |
| 13:46.53 | antii | cant remember |
| 13:47.12 | enouf | <3's apt-get |
| 13:47.23 | enouf | antii: yep |
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| 13:47.37 | antii | enouf: what's the commando |
| 13:47.39 | antii | u know? |
| 13:47.58 | enouf | antii: Option "XkbLayout" "us,de" |
| 13:48.16 | enouf | antii: Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" |
| 13:48.37 | enouf | so pressing Alt + Shift should then toggle between the languages |
| 13:49.06 | antii | :P |
| 13:49.09 | antii | dont need to do so |
| 13:49.10 | antii | thx |
| 13:49.13 | antii | got it working now anyways |
| 13:49.16 | enouf | Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps,compose:ralt" <-- is one i use |
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| 13:50.02 | Bitruder | Is libtool 2 not considered stable in the Debian world? |
| 13:50.24 | antii | enouf: question is, where is the config that i need for autostarting stuff_ |
| 13:50.28 | antii | like openvpn and so |
| 13:51.23 | asg | antii: generally in /etc/default |
| 13:51.30 | antii | ok |
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| 13:51.54 | jpinx | antii: mine is in ~/.config/autostart |
| 13:52.22 | antii | asg: that was no config :P |
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| 13:52.57 | antii | oh |
| 13:53.10 | asg | antii: many daemons are configured there. If openvpn is different, *shrug* |
| 13:53.32 | enouf | \o/ |
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| 13:56.42 | jamon | ok, i'm stumped, raid0 with sda2 & sdb2, --create works, update my initrd, mdadm.conf has the array, but rebooting, only sda2 shows up, and md1 fails to be created |
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| 13:57.21 | jamon | partitions all show up in /proc/partitions too, i'd expect mdadm --assemble --scan to see sdb2 |
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| 13:59.49 | bl4ckcomb_ | enouf, i've got it working now. If you're interested in the solution: i also needed the read-only option: #mount -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=ufs2 /dev/??? /??? |
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| 14:01.39 | djiin | And when I do xrandr --addmode default 640x480 |
| 14:01.44 | djiin | its says it doesn't exist |
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| 14:15.54 | wildsoul | hey yall.. i just install debian lenny few min ago.. and im looking for some help with my nvidia driver... and some after install tips... |
| 14:16.02 | wildsoul | some could please help me? |
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| 14:16.36 | peppe | wildsoul: /msg dpkg nvidia :-) |
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| 14:18.28 | wildsoul | peppe: yeah but im having some problems ... it say that i compile the kernel with gcc4.1 and now i have gcc 4.3 and i dunno how to solve it... |
| 14:18.41 | Gryfelhase | was the xorg-openchrome already part of etch ? |
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| 14:19.31 | peppe | wildsoul: can't you use the prepackaged modules? |
| 14:19.57 | chordogg | hello everyone! i'm having trouble with debian on my laptop. i have to use acpi=off noacpi in grub or else the laptop hangs. |
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| 14:21.21 | chordogg | also,i have a dual core and debian is only detecting one of these cores |
| 14:21.26 | wildsoul | mm im not getting the question... i download the driver from nvidia and i run it... and then i get the gcc version error :( |
| 14:21.29 | peppe | chordogg: that's unfortunate. try upgrading the bios and/or reporting the bios as bugged on the linux acpi website |
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| 14:21.41 | Gryfelhase | chordogg, : I had before a similar problem..... don't know anymore, where I got the real error-source... I guess I saw the message at boot.... in my case it was a bios bug |
| 14:21.55 | peppe | wildsoul: you're doing it wrong. ask dpkg how to install nvidia "the debian way" |
| 14:21.56 | chordogg | peppe: i can boot fine with ubuntu however.... |
| 14:22.02 | Gryfelhase | pnpbios=off helped |
| 14:22.18 | Gryfelhase | as kernel-parameter |
| 14:22.23 | peppe | chordogg: maybe it's another kernel version, or debian/ubuntu is using some patches |
| 14:22.41 | wildsoul | peppe: ok... thanks :) i reading the website |
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| 14:23.51 | chordogg | peppe: debian is using 2.6.26 and ubuntu is using 2.6.27-11. do you think a kernel upgrade could help? |
| 14:24.25 | peppe | chordogg: if your problem was fixed in 2.6.27 it helps for sure :-) |
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| 14:25.56 | chordogg | peppe: alright i'll give it a try! |
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| 14:28.34 | wildsoul | peppe: when somebody refers to non-free and contrib sources are .org/debian lenny main contrib non-free and org/debian-security lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:28.37 | wildsoul | ? |
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| 14:29.37 | peppe | wildsoul: yes ( /msg dpkg non-free ) |
| 14:29.54 | jpinx | The zonefile for my domain is with zoneedit and points at my local laptop dynamically, but I'd like to create subdomains locally without altering the remote zonefile - is it possible? |
| 14:30.23 | wildsoul | peppe: thanks im really used to "other linux" way.. so sorry if im making too "stupid" questions |
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| 14:58.30 | jetscreamer | apparently there are no problems with debian :) |
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| 14:59.19 | joeytwiddle | :D |
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| 15:00.08 | jamon | jetscreamer: didn't know you lenny will make your breakfast too? |
| 15:00.38 | jetscreamer | makes tea if you set it up right... tldp.org |
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| 15:06.03 | liable | wheres my bacon? |
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| 15:06.15 | asg | :bacon liable |
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| 15:06.52 | asg | grrr |
| 15:06.52 | asg | !bacon |
| 15:06.52 | dpkg | it has been said that bacon is a filling substance which will make you even fatter than you already are... Take my advice, bacon is a food for the gods or for underweight models such as that Moss wench... |
| 15:08.22 | jetscreamer | !sausage |
| 15:08.22 | dpkg | well, sausage is ground up animal parts stuffed into an sphincter, grilled so that you don't gag |
| 15:08.36 | asg | and then put in a bun |
| 15:08.38 | chordogg | is it possible to interrupt make-kpkg after it has started and continue later? |
| 15:08.39 | et | may be cooked too |
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| 15:08.50 | cafuego | !sausage =~ s/an s/a s/ |
| 15:08.50 | dpkg | cafuego: OK |
| 15:08.54 | liable | chordogg: yep |
| 15:08.59 | chordogg | liable: woohoo |
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| 15:09.10 | cafuego | If you're going to be disgusting, at least spell it properly. |
| 15:09.14 | chordogg | liable: just ^C? |
| 15:09.28 | cafuego | !blackpudding |
| 15:09.35 | liable | chordogg: sure |
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| 15:09.45 | liable | ecki thump! |
| 15:09.54 | wildsoul | hey yall.. im trying to install the drivers to my nvidia card, but i cant get a proper config of my xorg file... some vcould please help me? |
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| 15:10.45 | OpenTokix | nice both my window manager broke in my sid-home-box =) |
| 15:10.54 | peppe | what's wrong with sausages, bacon, and turbacondunken? |
| 15:11.09 | Polarina | Who needs that proprietary crap? Install libgl1-mesa-swx11. |
| 15:11.21 | liable | yes, sid is having a great time of screwing all the newbs that thought that sid never breaks. |
| 15:11.50 | cafuego | Maybe a NMU libpam should break stuff more interestingly. |
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| 15:12.13 | liable | that would be less fun, but still fun |
| 15:12.31 | cafuego | or a typo in nsswitch.conf |
| 15:12.57 | peppe | or a kernel abi change |
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| 15:13.37 | liable | kernel abi changes dont actually affect users.. |
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| 15:15.02 | peppe | hm, if you suddenly exchange the calls for open and unlink, maybe... |
| 15:15.41 | liable | peppe: thats one of the rules for kernel abi changes, they are all internal. |
| 15:16.03 | peppe | liable: rules are made to be broken |
| 15:16.09 | asg | so is sid |
| 15:16.59 | Polarina | Has anyone had any issues with squeeze so far? |
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| 15:17.20 | Polarina | where can I find a diff of packages available in lenny and squeeze? |
| 15:17.21 | dante_2core | hello everyone |
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| 15:19.15 | Polarina | Where can I find a diff of packages available in lenny and squeeze? |
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| 15:20.20 | jetscreamer | wildsoul: http://linux.hfds.com/files/xorg.conf maybe |
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| 15:21.34 | at0m | jpinx, btw, in http://www.google.com/advanced_search you can look for pages from for example "last year" |
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| 15:24.30 | flok | Polarina: diy by mangling debian/dists/{lenny,squeeze}/Contents-${ARCH}.gz |
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| 15:27.48 | jpinx | at0m: thanks - I didn't know that;) |
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| 15:29.53 | dacs | i installed vlc, but when i play avi, i hear the sound but don't see the pic? |
| 15:29.58 | flower | how do I enable rt2500 wireless support in kernel config? |
| 15:30.01 | jpinx | how do I get around the problem of changing lan IP when I re-connect to the router? I need the IP to be static for portforwarding |
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| 15:30.18 | dacs | !vlc codec |
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| 15:31.17 | flower | it seems I can't enable it in xconfig |
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| 15:31.50 | flower | but the debian kernel has it... |
| 15:33.01 | cusco | flower: how do xconfig relates to your wireless card? |
| 15:33.27 | cusco | !rt2x00 |
| 15:33.28 | dpkg | [rt2x00] A project and collection of rewritten ("next-generation") drivers for <Ralink> WLAN chipsets, excluding <rt28xx>. Included in the mainline kernel since 2.6.24. The out-of-tree drivers for Etch ('rt2x00-source' package) are quite buggy and not recommended for use; install a 2.6.24 kernel image (ask me about <etchnhalf>) to acquire these drivers. See also <rt2400>, <rt2500>, <rt2500usb>, <rt61>, <rt73>, <ralink firmware>. |
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| 15:34.56 | liable | flower: those cards should be supported in recent kernels |
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| 15:35.45 | flower | liable: when I use an RT kernel from 64studio or build my own I have no wireless with the card. I've with normal debian kernel |
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| 15:36.03 | flower | but it seems I can't enable the driver in xconfig when building an kernel |
| 15:36.07 | liable | flower: so fix your .config.. |
| 15:36.17 | liable | enable experimental drivers.. |
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| 15:44.42 | bolt | enouf: got the prompt working :P |
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| 15:45.20 | kavakava | Anyone else have problem with the sound dissapering in Squeeze? MPlayer gives this error: [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 15:45.23 | kavakava | Any tips? |
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| 15:46.06 | Gryfelhase | you have already an app running, that uses sound-output |
| 15:46.26 | Gryfelhase | and one of thoise cant share sound-output |
| 15:46.32 | Gryfelhase | quit it |
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| 15:47.28 | kavakava | Gryfelhase: Any way to find the app that causing this? |
| 15:48.05 | Nikke | wich package do i need to build dwm?? :O |
| 15:48.07 | Gryfelhase | no idea, just a thought, have similar problems sometime |
| 15:48.12 | Nikke | im new to debian and i cant run make command |
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| 15:48.23 | Gryfelhase | for example avidemux can't play, while vls is running |
| 15:48.24 | bolt | enouf: promised a screenshot of the working prompt :P here's my horribly messy desktop: http://imagebin.ca/view/sJFu-BY.html |
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| 15:49.23 | Nikke | anyone? |
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| 15:49.57 | joeytwiddle | Nikke: apt-get build-dep dwm might help |
| 15:50.11 | Nikke | joeytwiddle: i want to build it my self |
| 15:50.18 | Nikke | but i cant run the make command, |
| 15:50.24 | joeytwiddle | do ./configure before make |
| 15:50.41 | Nikke | nope command not found |
| 15:50.45 | Nikke | but it just make && sudo make install |
| 15:51.30 | cafuego | See the README or INSTALL file that probably comes with it. |
| 15:51.30 | joeytwiddle | i gotta run. how does make fail? |
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| 15:52.31 | Nikke | cafuego: it says make sure have the xlib headers and the run make |
| 15:52.51 | Nikke | i did this in archlinux and it worked, dont understand why it doesnt work here... maybe i dont have any compiler? |
| 15:53.03 | Nikke | im on a fresh install |
| 15:53.30 | joeytwiddle | you probably need the xlib headers |
| 15:53.48 | \amethyst | Nikke: do apt-get build-dep dwm . That will install build-essential as well as all the required -dev packages to build dwm |
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| 15:54.17 | Nikke | okok |
| 15:54.36 | Nikke | thanks |
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| 16:02.28 | wamty_ | gnomes window placement policy is stupid ? |
| 16:02.38 | wamty_ | or maybe its the debian bastardization thats done to it? or metacity? |
| 16:02.42 | wamty_ | anyone had that prob before? |
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| 16:06.11 | setuid | I'm trying to build the latest openssl as a .deb, to work around the huge issues with the broken version of the Debian openssl in Lenny. Can someone help me figure out how to turn a clean, compiled source tree into a .deb I can install and uninstall as needed? |
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| 16:07.51 | dacs | good morning , how can i get vlc ato play all formats |
| 16:08.01 | setuid | dacs, install all codec |
| 16:08.04 | setuid | er, codecs |
| 16:08.07 | dacs | there was a pkg i forgot the name \ |
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| 16:08.17 | dacs | 32 codec , something like that |
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| 16:08.43 | dacs | setuid: how? explain |
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| 16:08.54 | setuid | apt-get install <pkg-name> |
| 16:09.12 | dacs | setuid: thank you, but i was looking for the pkg-name |
| 16:09.21 | dacs | it skips me at the moment |
| 16:09.22 | setuid | apt-cache search codec |
| 16:09.48 | dacs | can i do apt-cache search vlc | grep -i codec |
| 16:10.03 | setuid | Sure, and that'll result in nothing |
| 16:10.08 | dacs | yeah |
| 16:10.10 | dacs | :) |
| 16:10.43 | dacs | there it is w32codecs |
| 16:10.46 | dacs | thank you mate |
| 16:10.48 | dacs | :P |
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| 16:13.30 | dacs | setuid: wtf i can hear the sound but still no pic |
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| 16:14.51 | ringo999 | hi, im new to kernel building. i followed some tutorial and configured/build a new kernel. Now I want to create the initial ramdisk using initramfs. How, haven't been able to google a good tutorial yet... |
| 16:15.16 | setuid | ringo999, man mkinitrd |
| 16:15.22 | bolt | ringo999: why are you compiling a kernel? |
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| 16:16.04 | setuid | compiles kernels for Debian all the time... the stock kernels are wrong in almost all cases |
| 16:16.16 | bolt | wrong how? |
| 16:16.58 | setuid | too broad, features built as modules which should be monolithic and vice versa, too old, etc. |
| 16:17.12 | ringo999 | bolt: i running debian on macbook and want to use ath9k driver which requires >=2.6.27 |
| 16:18.00 | ringo999 | bolt: i followed this tutorial http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_install_the_development_version_of_atk9k |
| 16:18.00 | dacs | if i installed w32codecs and still can't see video when playing avi , what else do i need for vls |
| 16:18.06 | dacs | ^vlc |
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| 16:18.42 | jetscreamer | how come,sometimes, hwinfo --monitor doesn't work |
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| 16:23.17 | enouf | setuid: no, not mkinitrd - and ringo999 man make-kpkg and /msg dpkg kp mantra and use the --initrd option |
| 16:23.45 | enouf | gotta go now fpor a bit |
| 16:23.58 | setuid | I have a blog post on this, actually... |
| 16:24.10 | setuid | http://blog.gnu-designs.com/building-custom-kernels-for-ubuntu |
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| 16:27.56 | phlux | I'm having a weird issue... |
| 16:28.26 | phlux | I guess pppd was updated, and now I can't use my wireless card through Verizon |
| 16:28.36 | phlux | it just says "option ttyACMO not recognized" |
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| 16:30.32 | jpinx | If I force a local IP on my laptop, how do I "force" it on the router which appears to randomll allocate 192.168.1.x numbers according to what's connecting? |
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| 16:32.14 | setuid | jpinx, Disable dhcp on your router? |
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| 16:33.29 | jetscreamer | make it outside the dhcp range |
| 16:33.58 | phlux | Anyone have any clue on my problem? |
| 16:34.12 | setuid | phlux, Back out to the previous packages? |
| 16:34.17 | phlux | I type 'pppd call 1xevdo' and it just spits back "unknown option ttyACMO" |
| 16:34.27 | setuid | phlux, http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 16:34.39 | phlux | I can't get to that if I don't have the internet. |
| 16:34.56 | phlux | I'm on my Windows partition right now |
| 16:35.08 | jpinx | setuid: that's going to bugger up everyone else that uses it though |
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| 16:35.26 | setuid | jpinx, Not sure what you mean... just set your dhcp range higher than the static pool you intend to use. |
| 16:35.30 | jetscreamer | the router has a range or ip's it can assign |
| 16:35.33 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 16:35.35 | setuid | in other words, reserve a static range, and set your dhcp range above that |
| 16:35.38 | jetscreamer | s/or/of/ |
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| 16:35.58 | jpinx | setuid: jetscreamer ok thanks, looking for that |
| 16:35.58 | setuid | 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.10 == static, your dhcp range would begin at 192.168.1.11 |
| 16:36.31 | jetscreamer | well don't use .1 .. it's commonly used for the router.. unless you know it's not |
| 16:36.40 | jetscreamer | some default to .254 |
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| 16:38.19 | jpinx | yep - ..1.1 is the router and the dhcp table shows Client IP Pool Starting Address at ..1.33 |
| 16:38.43 | dacs | if i installed w32codecs and still can't see video when playing avi , what else do i need for vlc |
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| 16:39.12 | setuid | dacs, video codecs |
| 16:39.33 | dacs | setuid: how do i know which one |
| 16:40.07 | jpinx | setuid: if I make my laptops IP fixed at ..1.34 (which it has been allocated for now) how do I allow the rest of the local network to connect without interruption? |
| 16:40.08 | jetscreamer | well either .2->.32 or greater than the end of the range.. .100 or so at a guess |
| 16:40.09 | ballessay | dacs: which version of libavcodec have you installed? |
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| 16:40.19 | jetscreamer | no don't do it IN the range |
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| 16:40.29 | setuid | jpinx, Don't do that. Don't statically assign an IP in the dhcp pool |
| 16:40.54 | jpinx | jetscreamer: ah ok - I allocate the laptop an IP like ..1.99 then |
| 16:41.09 | dacs | dpkg -l libavcodec |
| 16:41.09 | dpkg | No packages found matching libavcodec |
| 16:41.19 | dacs | return no pkg nstalled |
| 16:41.19 | jetscreamer | jpinx: if .99 is out of the range... .33->.??? |
| 16:41.37 | jpinx | given that they start at ..1.33 and there are 33 in the range |
| 16:41.58 | jetscreamer | 32, 31,30,29.... |
| 16:42.02 | jetscreamer | are good |
| 16:42.14 | jpinx | is worried about buggering up his connection |
| 16:42.16 | jetscreamer | what is the end of the range.. .33->? |
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| 16:42.31 | dacs | ballessay: how do i check |
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| 16:43.42 | jetscreamer | if .99 is the end,then .100 |
| 16:43.42 | ballessay | i looked at the properties via synaptic |
| 16:43.48 | jpinx | Client IP Pool Starting Address 192.168.1.33 and Size of Client IP Pool = 32 so last number in the pool would be ..1.65 |
| 16:44.10 | jpinx | so ..1.99 is outside the pool range |
| 16:44.15 | jpinx | jetscreamer: ^^ |
| 16:44.16 | jetscreamer | ok if true the <=.32 or >=.66 |
| 16:44.30 | ballessay | dacs: it should be libavcodec51 |
| 16:44.37 | jetscreamer | .100 works. |
| 16:44.55 | jetscreamer | you have up to .254 |
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| 16:45.04 | jpinx | and how do I change this laptop's IP without losing the connection - it's my only means of configuring the router |
| 16:45.43 | Kazuha | I'm having trouble printing with CUPS -- is there a quick checklist? |
| 16:45.47 | jpinx | jetscreamer: sorry to be picky, but I really cannot afford to bugger up the lan, it's full of paying customers on wifi |
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| 16:46.34 | jetscreamer | i don't know , should 'just work' when you change it? |
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| 16:48.08 | jpinx | if I do " ifconfig -v ath0 192.138.1.99 " I will presumably lose my connection to the router? |
| 16:48.46 | jetscreamer | i would think only for a millisecond, but i don't know |
| 16:49.18 | jetscreamer | you shouldn't have a problem reentering the ip to connect to the router |
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| 16:49.29 | jetscreamer | and connecting.. but like i said, i don't know for sure |
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| 16:50.10 | jpinx | ok - thanks jetscreamer - I'll wait till tonight in case I have to reset the router from scratch - unless I can find concrete confirmation meantime - Thanks for the pointers though - much appreciated:) |
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| 16:50.47 | n-iCe | anyone have used vlc to stream video? |
| 16:50.55 | jetscreamer | knows you won't have to, and knows you won't have a problem reconnecting, but can't just swear to it |
| 16:51.25 | jetscreamer | #vlc ? or #videolan ? |
| 16:51.36 | jetscreamer | just a thought, i know nothing |
| 16:51.37 | dacs | jetscreamer: how do i know what pkg version i have please |
| 16:51.56 | jetscreamer | dpkg -L ? or -l ? |
| 16:51.56 | dpkg | ii ? or -l 3.7-11.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 16:52.37 | dacs | huh, i did that |
| 16:52.55 | setuid | How do I rip out a package iwth dpkg, ignoring depends? checkinstall borked my openssl build |
| 16:52.57 | Kazuha | CUPS appears to be running, no test page will print, but echo "junk to send to printer">/dev/lp0 does print. |
| 16:53.54 | bl4ckcomb_ | in which file are static ip's stored in debian? |
| 16:54.07 | setuid | bl4ckcomb_, they're not |
| 16:54.16 | setuid | bl4ckcomb_, Unless you mean /etc/hosts |
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| 16:54.47 | bl4ckcomb_ | k, how can I init the interfaces so they connect through a specific gateway with a static IP (and define some aliasses) |
| 16:54.53 | bl4ckcomb_ | like rc.conf in freeBSD |
| 16:55.10 | jetscreamer | back |
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| 16:56.47 | dacs | ballessay: i still can't view the movie |
| 16:56.59 | ballessay | bl4ckcomb_: /etc/network/interfaces ? (i'm not familar with freeBSD) |
| 16:57.22 | dacs | ballessay: i install libavcodec51 |
| 16:57.32 | n-iCe | thanks jetscreamer |
| 16:57.32 | ballessay | which version? |
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| 16:57.37 | jetscreamer | !tell dacs -about dmm |
| 16:57.43 | n-iCe | 0.9.8a |
| 16:57.46 | n-iCe | says the about menu |
| 16:57.48 | bl4ckcomb_ | great ballessay thx |
| 16:57.48 | frankyh | hello, I have a problem with my SSH server. /etc/init.d/ssh doesn't run sshd. |
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| 16:58.42 | dacs | ballessay: un libavcodec-uns <none> (no description available) |
| 16:58.42 | dacs | ii libavcodec51 3:20080706-0.3 library to encode decode multimedia streams |
| 16:58.42 | dacs | un libavcodeccvs5 <none> (no description available) |
| 16:58.50 | jetscreamer | -l not L |
| 16:58.53 | jetscreamer | btw |
| 16:59.01 | \amethyst | frankyh: do you have a file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run ? |
| 16:59.03 | jetscreamer | had to reboot out of win |
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| 16:59.35 | jetscreamer | forgot about nottoberun |
| 17:00.13 | frankyh | \amethyst: Yes, i have this file. |
| 17:00.42 | \amethyst | frankyh: them remove it and /etc/inid.d/ssh should start sshd |
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| 17:00.53 | ballessay | dacs: i have installed the version from lenny "libavcodec51 0.svn20080206-17", altthough i have a debian testing here |
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| 17:01.04 | frankyh | \amethyst: thanks for your help. |
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| 17:01.56 | limpio | hi, is Squeeze going thru the same changes as Sid? |
| 17:02.09 | limpio | xorg changes |
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| 17:02.58 | setuid | What's a Squeeze? |
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| 17:03.21 | limpio | Testing, is that the correct spelling? |
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| 17:05.40 | limpio | anybody using Testing? |
| 17:05.52 | liable | no |
| 17:06.14 | Polarina | limpio: Squeeze. |
| 17:06.16 | dacs | what is the codec for mpeg |
| 17:06.19 | jpinx | limpio: if you have to ask that - don't ;) |
| 17:06.56 | jetscreamer | t not T i think it matters |
| 17:07.00 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 17:07.22 | limpio | jpinx, why not? testing and sid are not the same. a simple yes or no will suffice |
| 17:07.37 | jetscreamer | mpeg it depends.. mpeg is a container, you put codecs in it.. or so |
| 17:07.47 | jpinx | !testing |
| 17:07.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, testing is a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. Testing currently points to <squeeze> and as <lenny> has only just been released, squeeze users are in for a bumpy ride. Either be clueful or be told that you shouldn't be using testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html. <lenny->squeeze><testing security><moving target>. |
| 17:08.22 | limpio | hmm, so you don't know either |
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| 17:09.16 | jpinx | !sid |
| 17:09.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
| 17:09.56 | jpinx | all clear now limpio ?;) |
| 17:10.00 | gaintsura | O.o |
| 17:10.08 | dacs | jetscreamer: here is what i did, i used avidemux to clip a dvd and i saved it as .avi, but when i try to test it with vlc i don't see the video, i can hear the sound thu! |
| 17:10.11 | toshiba510cdt | i have a very old Pentium 133 MHz laptop on which i installed Lenny. What i want to do now is to create an ISO image of the old laptop's 2 gig hard drive and with the help from an application being able to dump that ISO image on to a CD and use as a bare metal recovery CD *with* the option to resize my 2 partitions (/ and swap) if I get an 8 gig hard drive |
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| 17:10.16 | limpio | jpinx, your answers do not answer my questions |
| 17:10.31 | ballessay | dacs: can you see any avi-video? |
| 17:10.31 | jetscreamer | dacs: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-vcd-dvd.html#menc-feat-vcd-dvd-constraints |
| 17:10.38 | limpio | i'm not asking if i should use Squeeze or not |
| 17:10.40 | toshiba510cdt | i have another laptop which is a Core 2 Duo with plenty of power and hard drive space to perform the task. the question is HOW can i achieve what i want? |
| 17:11.01 | jetscreamer | you have to convert it, not just save as... check that auto tab in the menu |
| 17:11.04 | jetscreamer | check out |
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| 17:11.10 | limpio | i'm asking if it's going thru the xorg changes as in Sid, |
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| 17:11.51 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: dd is probably what you want |
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| 17:12.31 | toshiba510cdt | dd is not what i want because i want to backup used blocks only |
| 17:12.43 | dacs | jetscreamer: thats what i did |
| 17:12.48 | jetscreamer | avi you wnat to use xvid or so |
| 17:13.19 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: The compress it. |
| 17:13.30 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: Or use a tarball. |
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| 17:14.46 | jetscreamer | dacs: you can probably get better help with this if you ask in #mplayer at the same time.... don't mention avidemux though :) |
| 17:14.51 | toshiba510cdt | <Polarina> and what about the application that will enable to dump that ISO image on to a CD and use as a bare metal recovery CD ***with*** the option to resize my 2 partitions (/ and swap) if I get an 8 gig hard drive? |
| 17:15.19 | flower | when building an RT kernel I got this error: http://rafb.net/p/qjLyki68.html |
| 17:15.22 | dacs | :0 |
| 17:15.28 | flower | What should I change or learn from it? |
| 17:15.45 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: WT*? Just backup your files. |
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| 17:17.54 | toshiba510cdt | <Polarina> you do not understand what i am trying to achieve, do you? i do not want to just back up files, i want to create an iso image that will allow to create a recovery cd to restore my os onto the old pentium laptop, perhaps upgrading the hard drive to 8 gig |
| 17:18.26 | jpinx | toshiba510cdt: dd to an .iso |
| 17:18.43 | toshiba510cdt | dd is not what i want because i want to backup used blocks only |
| 17:18.45 | et | toshiba510cdt: stop putting angle parentheses around people you address, people will read that as if you're quoting them |
| 17:18.51 | shinnok | toshiba510cdt: partimg |
| 17:18.56 | jetscreamer | cp |
| 17:19.01 | jetscreamer | cp -a from a live cd |
| 17:19.07 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: Backup the entire / directory, with preserved permissions. Then start up a livecd and copy the crap back over. |
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| 17:20.02 | shinnok | toshiba510cdt: partimage in fact |
| 17:20.20 | hellues | are there any program that download package from web with its dependancy ? |
| 17:20.23 | toshiba510cdt | will that allow me to use a recovery CD *with* the option to resize my 2 partitions (/ and swap) if I get an 8 gig hard drive? |
| 17:20.32 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: Yes. |
| 17:21.03 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: If you get a new drive, just create a new partition table on it. |
| 17:21.13 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: Format it and copy your crap back. :) |
| 17:22.45 | toshiba510cdt | Polarina: i want to find app similar to mondorescue. partimage is too cryptic and does only a part of what of what i wanna do |
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| 17:23.04 | jetscreamer | !gparted |
| 17:23.04 | dpkg | gparted is probably the GNOME partition editor, which uses libparted (ask me about <parted>) and other optional filesystem tools. Install "ntfsprogs" to enable NTFS support and "dosfstools" for FAT16/32 support. Consider a <debian-live> image and installing "gparted" (after boot) as an alternative to the GParted Live CD. http://gparted.sf.net/ |
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| 17:23.29 | hellues | are there any program that looks the http source and download all with dependancy from web |
| 17:24.44 | toshiba510cdt | what are the differences between gparted and mondorescue? |
| 17:24.54 | jetscreamer | hellues: you'll have to explain that more, for me at least |
| 17:25.09 | jetscreamer | never heard of mondorescue |
| 17:25.11 | hellues | okey |
| 17:25.35 | toshiba510cdt | http://www.mondorescue.org/ |
| 17:25.37 | jetscreamer | you can apt-get source iirc, or so |
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| 17:26.26 | n-iCe | I can't :> |
| 17:26.55 | hellues | i want kile.And i dont get it from repository. Wireless connection that i used doesnt allow that.So it is not good thing for me to download package kile and its dependancy one by one .I want a program to connect the http address and download one by one. |
| 17:27.04 | christoz | hello, i need a pci wifi card for my debian desktop pc, any suggestions? |
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| 17:27.51 | christoz | unfortunately linksys usb adapter, just can't do the job properly |
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| 17:29.13 | hellues | i guess no one doesnt understand my question |
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| 17:31.18 | invisible_pie | hellues, whats kile for? |
| 17:31.26 | xJaM | Is it a problem using RW disks for installing Debian? |
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| 17:31.44 | hellues | kile is latex program |
| 17:31.48 | invisible_pie | hellues, from what you said you want wget |
| 17:32.00 | hellues | yes |
| 17:32.02 | hellues | but |
| 17:32.10 | hellues | wget just take one address |
| 17:32.16 | invisible_pie | no |
| 17:32.23 | hellues | hmm |
| 17:32.33 | invisible_pie | read the man |
| 17:32.38 | invisible_pie | its pretty neat |
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| 17:33.05 | xJaM | Installer is constantly giving me all kinds of errors |
| 17:33.08 | toshiba510cdt | gparted will allow to resize partitions but does not create a iso image to restore from bare metal, so gparted is NOT what i am after as a whole app |
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| 17:33.27 | hellues | look i have to download 50 package beside kle.And i donw want to download one by one.I want some program connect those 50 address and download it to spesific place |
| 17:33.54 | eider | how to configure xorg in debian Rick, and it is configured by debconf |
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| 17:34.11 | eider | how to configure xorg in debian lenny and it is configured by debconf |
| 17:35.26 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: What you are looking for doesn't exist. |
| 17:35.26 | xJaM | Specially in the phase "Install the base system"... |
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| 17:35.57 | toshiba510cdt | Polarina: now you are talking some sense |
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| 17:36.08 | bl4ckcomb_ | why is debian automatically deleting entries in resolv.conf ? :s |
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| 17:36.29 | jelly-home | bl4ckcomb_: because you have resolvconf package installed? |
| 17:36.37 | toshiba510cdt | not |
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| 17:37.03 | Suzula | Hell, How I cant to install the driver for this 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] |
| 17:37.03 | Suzula | ? |
| 17:37.08 | Suzula | hello* |
| 17:37.14 | Suzula | can* |
| 17:37.19 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: I see exactly no reason why anyone would like to what you're looking for on how to do. |
| 17:37.50 | bl4ckcomb_ | I don't understand... 2 minutes ago I could perfectly connect to the WAN, and then suddenly only to the LAN (without changing anything) |
| 17:38.16 | xJaM | And in the end I get "Debootstrap warning: Failure while configuring base packages..." |
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| 17:38.58 | toshiba510cdt | Polarina: It is recommended to do a whole disk or partition image backup before you use GParted to resize or move your partitions. OFFICIAL info |
| 17:39.16 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: Yes. |
| 17:40.03 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: dd if=/dev/sdX of=/media/some-other-disk/crap.crp |
| 17:40.37 | xJaM | Should I try severeal time with installing or should I quit? |
| 17:41.30 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: is there something wrong with using several tools instead of a single one to achieve your goal? |
| 17:41.45 | toshiba510cdt | Polarina: remember that on an old pentium 133 Mhz it takes several hours to install lenny with all the apps i want, configuring this and that. so a recovery cd would do all that in less than 20 min |
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| 17:42.43 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: You would've been halved if you commenced right away instead of idling on this channel. |
| 17:42.45 | toshiba510cdt | dd is not what i want because i want to backup used blocks only AND do the resizing with the recovery cd |
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| 17:43.18 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: you don't have 2GB available space anywhere? |
| 17:43.35 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: is this a real problem, or just an exercise? |
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| 17:44.39 | toshiba510cdt | jelly-home: see mondorescue. my old pentium 133 Mhz hard drive size is 2 gig and i only have 100 mb free left. |
| 17:44.52 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: is it an IDE drive? |
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| 17:45.00 | toshiba510cdt | i have another laptop which is a Core 2 Duo with plenty of power and hard drive space to perform the task. the question is HOW can i achieve what i want? |
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| 17:45.27 | toshiba510cdt | jelly-home: my old pentium 133 Mhz IDE hard drive size is 2 gig and i only have 100 mb free left |
| 17:45.47 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: pull the drive, dd it away (or dd it via on a network share), replace with a new one and restore |
| 17:46.04 | toshiba510cdt | dd is not what i want because i want to backup used blocks only AND do the resizing with the recovery cd |
| 17:46.37 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: you are allowed to use more than one tool |
| 17:47.11 | toshiba510cdt | what i am after is something similar to mondorescue or what windows users would do with just single app called ghost |
| 17:47.23 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: in fact, you're losing more time arguing than it would take to dd 2GiB |
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| 17:48.00 | Polarina | toshiba510cdt: dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/stdout | gzip -7 > /media/disk/crap.gz |
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| 17:49.18 | mbp | anyone know of a place to get pre build packages of subversion 1.6 to stable? |
| 17:50.13 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: you just said your disk is almost full; I don't see the point of a 5% save you'd get with "backup used blocks only" |
| 17:50.39 | toshiba510cdt | jelly-home: http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto/overview.html |
| 17:50.45 | gparent | wouldn't gzip compressed unused blocks really well anyway? |
| 17:50.48 | gparent | compress* |
| 17:50.50 | macman_ | hi .. i have a folder with 3 vobs .. is there a command line tool to burn the vobs to a dvd ? |
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| 17:51.12 | gparent | unless ext3 deletes files ntfs style and leaves them untouched |
| 17:51.29 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: yes? |
| 17:51.33 | toshiba510cdt | <jelly-home> what if upgrade the hd to an 8 gig one, dd is not an option ten |
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| 17:52.06 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: you're allowed to use more than one tool to achieve your goal. |
| 17:52.42 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: in this case, you can use a partition resizing tool as a second step |
| 17:53.13 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: I reiterate: is this a one time job? |
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| 17:53.40 | jelly-home | if it is, there's little reason to search for the perfect solution |
| 17:54.03 | jelly-home | !timtowtdi |
| 17:54.03 | dpkg | well, timtowtdi is There Is More Than One Way To Do It. Perl's philosophy, or courtesy of Larry Wall of perl. |
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| 17:56.33 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: if mondo/mindi suit you, why are you not using them? |
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| 18:00.08 | progwriter | hi, any ipmasq users here? |
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| 18:05.29 | jetscreamer | aitinstallthingy --uninstall? |
| 18:05.36 | jetscreamer | ati |
| 18:05.38 | toshiba510cdt | it is not a one time job |
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| 18:06.33 | jetscreamer | just go out and by 2 1terabyte hd's |
| 18:06.38 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 18:07.41 | toshiba510cdt | jelly-home: it is not a one time job, i want to re-use the cd recovery if i upgrade my hard drive to a 6 or 8 gig one |
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| 18:10.30 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: you can reuse the dd image as well! |
| 18:10.31 | jelly-home | :-) |
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| 18:11.00 | sepult | are the backports trustworthy ? |
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| 18:11.34 | progwriter | I am using ipmasq and the IPOFIF environment variable is not set correctly. I don't know how to change the value without hardcoding it into a rules file. Could someone help? |
| 18:11.35 | jelly-home | sepult: those from backports.org are supposed to be fine |
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| 18:11.59 | sepult | jelly-home: i'm not sure to add them onto my sources.list that's why |
| 18:12.06 | sepult | jelly-home: have a clean system |
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| 18:12.30 | sepult | ok, i'll try then |
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| 18:15.01 | toshiba510cdt | what i want to do is this: remove the 2 gig hard drive that contains Lenny from the old Pentium 133 MHz, attached with a USB IDE adapter to the Core 2 Duo laptop and with the help from an application being able to dump that ISO image on to a CD and use as a bare metal recovery CD *with* the option to resize my 2 partitions (/ and swap) if I get an 8 gig hard drive |
| 18:15.04 | toshiba510cdt | it is not a one time job, i want to re-use the cd recovery if i upgrade my hard drive to a 6 or 8 gig one |
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| 18:15.30 | infinity1 | toshiba510cdt: thats a mouthful |
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| 18:16.03 | toshiba510cdt | infinity1: windows users do that easily with an app called Ghost |
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| 18:16.10 | meoblast001 | how do you download a deb to the working directory with APT? |
| 18:16.19 | infinity1 | toshiba510cdt: its easy with linux. just copy the OS to a new drive |
| 18:16.19 | jelly-home | meoblast001: you don't |
| 18:16.26 | meoblast001 | jelly-home, then what do you do? |
| 18:16.40 | infinity1 | you don't need ghost. just create a drive, partition it with volumes, copy the OS, setup grub, boot |
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| 18:16.57 | infinity1 | oh. and don't forget to update modules/initrd if its different hardware |
| 18:17.09 | toshiba510cdt | infinity1: i am after a cd recovery app similar to Ghost |
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| 18:17.14 | maligor | meoblast001, aptitude download |
| 18:17.36 | infinity1 | toshiba510cdt: dunno. something probably exists |
| 18:17.39 | jelly-home | meoblast001: there are options to download only, or to just print out URLs |
| 18:17.41 | maligor | I'm assuming here you know what you really want ;) |
| 18:17.44 | toshiba510cdt | infinity1: dd is not what i want because i want to backup used blocks only AND do the resizing with the recovery cd |
| 18:17.50 | shootm3h | hi peeps, anybody using XEN with FGLRX at all? per chance. i hope so . . . |
| 18:18.02 | infinity1 | toshiba510cdt: did i say dd? re-read |
| 18:18.09 | dacs | !seen stew |
| 18:18.09 | dpkg | stew is currently on #debian-ops #debian, last said: 'fat doesn't go very far at all. iirc fat deletes files by putting a special character as the first letter of the filename or something'. |
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| 18:18.30 | jintxo | toshiba510cdt, I've copied OS from one drive to another new ones with "cp -a" a few times in the past |
| 18:18.40 | dacs | stew: where are you hiding man? |
| 18:18.42 | toshiba510cdt | infinity1: no you did not but if anyone else is reading i just mentioned just in case |
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| 18:19.20 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: what's wrong with mondo/mindi? |
| 18:19.36 | toshiba510cdt | jintxo: and what if i have to upgrade to an 8 gig hard drive? |
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| 18:21.06 | toshiba510cdt | jelly-home: correct me if *you* have personally done with mondosrecue exactly what i want to do |
| 18:21.16 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: I haven't. |
| 18:21.32 | toshiba510cdt | ok, thanks for your 2 cents... |
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| 18:21.54 | toshiba510cdt | ...not! |
| 18:21.54 | jintxo | toshiba510cdt, why would the size matter? you partition it to your liking, copy over the files to the new partitions and set up the boot as mentioned by infinity1 |
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| 18:22.44 | mdrake | hello, hi do I say to the installer that it's still the old kernel that Im using? |
| 18:23.04 | mdrake | s,hi,how |
| 18:23.21 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: what you want to do can easily be done by breaking the problem into a number of steps; make a backup copy (using dd, tar, whatever); make a copy of your partition setup; plug a new disk; use a livecd to format and put the data back; install the boot loader |
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| 18:24.21 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: repeating the request for a Ghost clone isn't going to make the app materialize out of... aether |
| 18:24.26 | jintxo | now if what you want is "a cd that does all the things I want it to do" then it's going to be difficult for somebody in here to help you with that because we're not really used to those cds |
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| 18:24.34 | mdrake | I installed the new kernel which didn't work out, so now the installer think that I want latest glibc |
| 18:24.56 | mdrake | even tough I fell back on the old one |
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| 18:25.08 | toshiba510cdt | jelly-home: that is certainly neither an integral nor a user friendly option. mondorescue is the best i have found but unless someone with experience corrects me, it does do what i wanna do |
| 18:25.19 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: so try it |
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| 18:26.21 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: it's not integral or user friendly, but it's in unix philosophy of using small(er) tools to achive a goal, and I've done it many times |
| 18:26.25 | mdrake | maybe I should just be my own kitchen heroine |
| 18:26.52 | dacs | how the hell do i get my vlc play my avi :( |
| 18:27.01 | dacs | i can hear the sound but no pic |
| 18:27.31 | cmatheson | In my ssh_config, I can make rule for my network like 'Host 123.123.123.*', and that works for any host if I ssh by ip address, but it doesn't work if i ssh into a box using its hostname--how do i get ssh to resolve the ip address first and then look in ssh_config? |
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| 18:28.31 | jelly-home | toshiba510cdt: you can try that mondo thing and work on improving it if it doesn't fit your needs -- either by asking for missing features, or by implementing them yourself |
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| 18:30.46 | jelly-home | (or paying someone to implement them) |
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| 18:31.54 | mdrake | can anyone link me a built pdftohtml package? |
| 18:31.58 | mdrake | pre-built |
| 18:32.57 | cusco | that comes with poppler-utils |
| 18:33.08 | cusco | look in packages.debian.org for poppler-utils |
| 18:33.24 | mdrake | yes I know, but I think all those dependecies are going to screw my libc |
| 18:33.47 | mdrake | and I can't compile too fast on this one |
| 18:33.51 | cusco | what do you mean? |
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| 18:34.03 | mdrake | can I down-load the pre-built packages? |
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| 18:34.07 | linduxed | is there a keycombo in BASH that clears the line? (the one that im typing) |
| 18:34.10 | jelly-home | mdrake: which debian release are you using? |
| 18:34.16 | mdrake | I dont know |
| 18:34.38 | jelly-home | mdrake: paste the output of dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 |
| 18:34.43 | mdrake | how do I see? |
| 18:34.54 | jelly-home | !version |
| 18:34.54 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
| 18:35.21 | jelly-home | inckie: ugh, please disable that "!version" responding script in this channel |
| 18:35.38 | mdrake | libc.2.3.6.so |
| 18:36.01 | jelly-home | mdrake: paste the exact and complete output of that command |
| 18:36.12 | mdrake | I don't know how to |
| 18:36.26 | jelly-home | type it in, then? |
| 18:36.35 | mdrake | can I cat it somewhere? |
| 18:36.53 | mdrake | but it's just libc.2.3.6.so |
| 18:36.58 | jelly-home | mdrake: are you running irc on that same machine? |
| 18:37.05 | mdrake | yes |
| 18:37.12 | jelly-home | mdrake: /exec -o dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 |
| 18:37.16 | dacs | i can hear the sound but no pic |
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| 18:37.58 | mdrake | glibc.2.3.6.ds1-13et |
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| 18:39.05 | jelly-home | !tell mdrake -about pastebin pipe |
| 18:39.09 | mdrake | jelly: the problem is that installer want to upgrade it |
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| 18:39.26 | scriptkiddie | hi all |
| 18:39.33 | jelly-home | mdrake: looks like etch, previous release of debian |
| 18:39.40 | mdrake | maybe |
| 18:39.44 | jelly-home | mdrake: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:39.52 | mdrake | but I just want a pre-built pdftohtml actually |
| 18:40.12 | mdrake | some german source |
| 18:40.20 | mdrake | security and main |
| 18:40.31 | jelly-home | mdrake: don't tell us, pastebin it. |
| 18:40.40 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 18:40.40 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 18:40.41 | mdrake | I don't know how to |
| 18:40.58 | mdrake | can't you just tell me how to fetch a prebuilt package for manual install? |
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| 18:41.13 | jelly-home | mdrake: go to http://paste.debian.net/, paste the contents inside, and show the result url here |
| 18:41.24 | mdrake | jelly: of that pdftohtmo |
| 18:41.32 | Ace2017_- | Hi all |
| 18:41.33 | scriptkiddie | hi all , we are start a new group in our school public community site http://lms.bit.lk/community/pg/pages/view/1053/ and somebody can help me to extend that kernel newbie resource list ? please post your comments |
| 18:41.40 | mdrake | jelly: but I already can find the name in the repository |
| 18:41.49 | jelly-home | mdrake: your system needs to be fixed to make apt-get/aptitude usable, then you'll be able to install it yourself |
| 18:41.56 | mdrake | it can't be fixed |
| 18:42.06 | mdrake | as the new kernel don't work with my hardware |
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| 18:42.41 | jamesstanley | Can anyone tell me how I can convince adduser to allow me to have two users with same uid? |
| 18:42.48 | mdrake | latest debian installer wont run either: kernel boot issues |
| 18:42.50 | jamesstanley | I know it's possible on other distro's |
| 18:42.53 | jelly-home | mdrake: your CONFIGURATION needs to be fixed, then. |
| 18:43.09 | jelly-home | mdrake: I didn't say "upgraded". |
| 18:43.18 | mdrake | jelly: I just want manual install of that single package |
| 18:43.31 | mdrake | I don't want all that new smart things |
| 18:44.10 | jelly-home | mdrake: sorry, if you don't follow my advice, I can't help you |
| 18:44.16 | mdrake | jelly: something that'll fect me the binary objects and man-pages only |
| 18:44.21 | mdrake | fetch |
| 18:44.56 | mdrake | the .deb thing |
| 18:45.42 | jelly-home | yes. apt is used to fetch the .deb package and its dependencies. You need to fix your apt configuration to make it not try to upgrade libc6 and friends. |
| 18:46.05 | mdrake | jelly: like I don't want the source, just the built objects |
| 18:46.17 | jelly-home | shrugs |
| 18:46.35 | jelly-home | must be Sunday already |
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| 18:46.58 | mdrake | so I just wget it? |
| 18:47.05 | frankS2 | wfap |
| 18:47.19 | mdrake | hehe |
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| 18:49.47 | mdrake | *action* guesses that it's mostly kernel support for new hardware anyways |
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| 18:51.38 | mdrake | was going to read up on how to make secure interrupts and found the pdf format too static |
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| 18:52.23 | ringo999 | so if i have created and isntalled a new kernel with make-kpgk what is the best way to reinstall if I have some changes in the .config? |
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| 18:53.22 | Raenk | hi, any recommendation for an online guide about setting up a ftp server ? |
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| 18:53.42 | mdrake | I made it with a custom chroot Raenk |
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| 18:54.33 | mdrake | Raenk: might gonna need the core-utils package |
| 18:54.36 | mdrake | from the GNU |
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| 18:54.44 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 18:55.22 | Azrael_- | how can i configure lenny to show me only folders if i use autocomplete with "cd" ? |
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| 18:56.58 | Raenk | mdrake: did you follow any how-to or guide ? |
| 18:57.10 | mdrake | Raenk: only the man pages as usual |
| 18:57.27 | mdrake | and ldd |
| 18:57.34 | Raenk | mdrake: what ftp server did you set up? |
| 18:57.37 | mdrake | with some cp hack |
| 18:57.45 | mdrake | someone called ftpd |
| 18:58.16 | jintxo | proftpd is pretty goo in my opinion |
| 18:58.17 | jintxo | s/goo/good |
| 18:58.31 | mdrake | Raenk: I think it was running in a subshell from inetd |
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| 18:58.58 | mdrake | not sure about that |
| 18:58.58 | Gnurdux | Azrael_-, apt-get install bash-completion iirc |
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| 18:59.25 | Raenk | thanks guys, gonna give it a try now |
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| 19:10.40 | mdrake | well, I just going to make it elsewhere and serve it from the kitchend |
| 19:10.49 | mdrake | bye |
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| 19:13.27 | LamerC | Hello. I think their may be a bug in Debian 5 build of CEGUI. I have an application that when compiled against it fails to start and GDB backtrace seems to indicate it, but linking to a manual build of SILLY/CEGUI works with the program. |
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| 19:15.20 | jintxo | LamerC, if you know enough to suspect a bug like that, maybe you can report it on the debian bugtracker and that way hel yourself and everyone else :-) I think there's a script called "reportbug" that can help you with that, never used it myself |
| 19:16.19 | jintxo | s/hel/help |
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| 19:19.29 | LamerC | Okay I found the script and am trying it now. If not I'll just use the email from submit@bugs.debian.org |
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| 19:23.40 | wat | whats the command to run nvidia X server settings in the terminal? |
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| 19:23.53 | vyrus | is there a reason why the compiz-gnome package dependancys are broken? |
| 19:23.58 | vyrus | im getting a dependancy error that claims libgnome-desktop-2 does not exsist and is a dependancy? |
| 19:24.32 | nocture | any operator? BacK is messaging on join with xxx links |
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| 19:25.01 | gynterk | pleas ban BacK for advertising porn links in private on join |
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| 19:25.13 | zleap | can someone kick BacK for sending im's about porn please |
| 19:25.44 | mib_b2y4ov | hi this is not really the channel for such a discussion but what do you think about deploying a special seo template for requests issued by googlebot and similar? |
| 19:25.51 | Polarina | zleap: Contact a freenode staff. |
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| 19:26.01 | jintxo | !ops to get their attention, believe |
| 19:26.02 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jintxo complains about: to get their attention, believe |
| 19:26.02 | zleap | ok how |
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| 19:26.06 | zleap | as in someone in here |
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| 19:26.27 | mib_b2y4ov | you often have to violate the w3c standards in order to let the template be displayed in ie right |
| 19:26.32 | jelly-home | !ops BacK onjoin spam |
| 19:26.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: BacK onjoin spam |
| 19:26.38 | mib_b2y4ov | so what about a correct an clean template for google? |
| 19:26.51 | streuner | * BacK hat die Verbindung getrennt (K-lined) |
| 19:26.51 | vyrus001 | mib_b2y4ov: that or you make a seperate css for ie and make sure your html is up to snuff |
| 19:26.51 | wat | whats the command to run nvidia X server settings in the terminal? |
| 19:27.28 | mib_b2y4ov | vyrus001, the seperate css for ie is not the problem. but sometimes you need like nested spans for the right css effekt |
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| 19:27.50 | mib_b2y4ov | or you need the navigation on top of the content to be displayed on the right place |
| 19:28.12 | mib_b2y4ov | i mean do you think google dislikes it if you have two versions of the same website? |
| 19:28.39 | mib_b2y4ov | it would be a good thing for screenreaders, tool |
| 19:28.40 | mib_b2y4ov | -l |
| 19:28.59 | pipeline | mib_b2y4ov: iirc there's a way to tell google about your shit, in order to fix aliasing of that kind, in which two distinct pages have the same content. |
| 19:29.22 | mib_b2y4ov | popeline, do you mean cononical urls? |
| 19:29.41 | mib_b2y4ov | *anonical urls |
| 19:29.42 | jintxo | vyrus001, packaes in testing and unstable "fluctuate" sometimes, so the dependencies aren't always correct |
| 19:29.43 | pipeline | mib_b2y4ov: no - where you have two different pages, with different versions of the same content |
| 19:29.48 | mib_b2y4ov | arg ,,canonical urls |
| 19:29.49 | wat | whats the name of the linux flash plugin in synaptic? |
| 19:30.02 | pipeline | mib_b2y4ov: i.e. the documents retrieved by the URLs are different, but to a human reader, their content is the same |
| 19:30.06 | pipeline | wat: flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:30.09 | jintxo | vyrus001, sometimes the best option is to wait and aptitude update a few hours later |
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| 19:30.24 | mib_b2y4ov | pipeline, a thanks i'm going to search for this |
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| 19:30.34 | vyrus001 | jintxo: yea, i figured that, ive been trying since about 4pm my time yesterday but i guess ill just have to wait a little bit |
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| 19:31.46 | wat | to run nvidia X server settings in the terminal, what is the command |
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| 19:32.46 | jintxo | vyrus001, I don't know about that package in particular (I don't use it, but I do use compiz-gtk and fusion-icon within gnome) |
| 19:32.49 | pipeline | mib_b2y4ov: I think it's the sitemap feature in google webmaster tools, not sure |
| 19:33.03 | vyrus001 | jintxo: how you like gtk with compiz? |
| 19:33.04 | vyrus001 | btw |
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| 19:33.21 | jintxo | works fine as far as I'm concerned |
| 19:33.25 | mib_b2y4ov | hmm |
| 19:33.41 | vyrus001 | jintxo: personaly id rather run compiz with fluxbox but since thats not an option i always just end up cleaning gnome a crap ton and ripping crap out of it so its simple |
| 19:33.48 | wat | does anyone know how to make flash not have that awful play button symbol on anything that uses flash on the internet? flash on debian isnt too good |
| 19:34.03 | mib_b2y4ov | pipeline, i think sitemap is a bit different. but according to http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-google-defines-ip-delivery.html i'll risk Cloaking |
| 19:34.08 | mib_b2y4ov | what ever this is |
| 19:34.10 | jintxo | vyrus001, you should be installing gnome-core then :-) |
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| 19:34.18 | jintxo | instead of full fledged gnome |
| 19:34.20 | jintxo | that's what I do |
| 19:34.34 | vyrus001 | jintxo: heh |
| 19:34.45 | vyrus001 | fosho, still dependancy crap though... guess im stuck waiting |
| 19:34.59 | myeggo | hello, someone know what is the name of the font of linux in text mode? |
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| 19:35.07 | myeggo | fidexsys? |
| 19:35.08 | wat | i cant watch videos on video sites because flash on debian isnt good : |
| 19:35.09 | wat | :( |
| 19:35.32 | myeggo | uh? i see all flash videos as well |
| 19:35.36 | wat | i cant |
| 19:35.48 | myeggo | because you dont have it installed properly |
| 19:35.49 | wat | all flash objects have a big play symbol on them |
| 19:35.52 | myeggo | what is your webbrowser |
| 19:35.55 | wat | ice weasel |
| 19:36.05 | wat | i wish debian could use firefox :( |
| 19:36.20 | myeggo | iceweasel is firefox |
| 19:36.34 | wat | i meant real firefox :/ |
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| 19:36.46 | myeggo | anyway, you can download firefox, save it in /opt/, and create a symbolic link to /usr/bin |
| 19:36.50 | myeggo | thats what i use |
| 19:36.58 | wat | so can you help me fix flash? |
| 19:37.17 | myeggo | im searching where i have the .so files for flash |
| 19:37.23 | myeggo | i already forget :) |
| 19:37.27 | jintxo | wat, yu don't have "flashblock" installed, do you? thats what that plugin does ...replaces flash objects with a "play" button and only activates them when you hit the button |
| 19:37.48 | fbh | jintxo: hey.. thanks for the tip haha |
| 19:37.48 | wat | i dont think so |
| 19:37.56 | jintxo | fbh, :-) |
| 19:37.56 | myeggo | wat: sentencia@debian:/opt/firefox/plugins$ ls -l libflashplayer.so |
| 19:37.56 | myeggo | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 feb 1 14:55 libflashplayer.so -> /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so |
| 19:38.03 | myeggo | that are the paths |
| 19:38.04 | wat | nope |
| 19:38.11 | wat | so what do i need to do? |
| 19:38.25 | myeggo | download firefox, and download flash plugin for linux |
| 19:38.28 | jintxo | wat in my case, I have flashplayer-mozilla installed and flash works fine in iceweasel here |
| 19:38.50 | wat | jintxo how did you do that? |
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| 19:39.12 | jintxo | I ran "aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla", I guess |
| 19:39.25 | wat | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 19:39.34 | wat | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "flashplayer-mozilla |
| 19:39.51 | fbh | arent you kindda forced to get it from adobe as it is not open? |
| 19:39.52 | dacs | i have an avi movie that is 450 MB but when i use devede and add it, the file will fill the whole 4.7gb??!! |
| 19:40.16 | wat | so jintxo there is no package named flashplayer-mozilla :( |
| 19:40.32 | fbh | wat: are you running 32 or 64 bit? |
| 19:40.35 | wat | 32 |
| 19:40.46 | dacs | anyhelp please |
| 19:40.50 | jintxo | wat, oh, I forgot ... I think I got it from the debian-multimedia repos, which are good for this kind of stuff |
| 19:41.14 | wat | what is the repo for that jintxo ? |
| 19:41.15 | jintxo | http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 19:41.19 | jintxo | go there |
| 19:41.27 | wat | thanks |
| 19:41.33 | jintxo | it's on the first page I believe |
| 19:41.33 | pipeline | dacs: sounds about right - the AVI is probably MPEG-4 or h.264, a very high-compression codec. DVDs are always MPEG-2, not such a high compression codec. |
| 19:41.44 | pipeline | dacs: as an added bonus, the DVD will be lower quality than the AVI, since you will be transcoding the content. |
| 19:42.09 | jintxo | wat, as a side effect, you can get adobe reader and "nicer" multimedia codecs automaticaly from there |
| 19:42.26 | dacs | pipeline: omg, after spending this whole time....errr |
| 19:42.45 | wat | jintxo i just put deb http://debian.dc-uoit.net/debian-multimedia/ stable main |
| 19:42.45 | wat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.48 | dacs | pipeline: how can i shrink it |
| 19:42.52 | pipeline | dacs: you can't |
| 19:43.17 | jintxo | wat, did you read that page? it tells you what to do ... |
| 19:43.23 | wat | i know |
| 19:43.24 | pipeline | dacs: well, you could lower quality, but it's unlikely that would shrink it much. No matter how ugly you make the content, MPEG-2 for a given resolution is always going to be fairly large. |
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| 19:43.54 | pipeline | dacs: you could burn the AVI onto a *data* DVD, in which case it would only be 400M, but almost nothing will play it |
| 19:43.58 | dacs | pipeline: well how if i have a dvd and i want to take few clips and then burn it to a dvd |
| 19:44.14 | pipeline | dacs: that's a gigantic pain in the ass to do on any platform, but it's particularly unpleasant on linux |
| 19:44.40 | pipeline | dacs: you'll need to rip the entire DVD with a questionably-legal ripper, then use video-editing software to cut out the clips you want, then use DVD authoring software to turn the clips into a new DVD |
| 19:44.45 | dacs | pipeline: thanks for the good news |
| 19:45.10 | dacs | pipeline: the dvd is already ripped |
| 19:45.18 | dacs | pipeline: i am using avidemux |
| 19:45.33 | fbh | Ironically enough, many cheap dvd players can play both DivX and XViD |
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| 19:46.13 | pipeline | at least this is easier than it was in the early days |
| 19:46.14 | dacs | pipeline: fbh this is going to be presented at church , using a laptop and a projector |
| 19:46.21 | pipeline | my "cheap" dvd player back then was ONLY $150 |
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| 19:46.30 | pipeline | and I needed a hardware video decoder to playback DVD in real time :D |
| 19:46.46 | pipeline | dacs: then why burn anything to DVD ? just play your clips in order with a shell script P: |
| 19:47.07 | pipeline | ripping a DVD to VCD used to take like, three days. |
| 19:47.07 | wat | jintxo |
| 19:47.16 | wat | E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla |
| 19:47.19 | dacs | pipeline: i don't think the preist knows how |
| 19:47.33 | jintxo | wat, did you "aptitude update"? |
| 19:47.38 | wat | i forgot to |
| 19:47.44 | jintxo | wel .. ... ... ... .. . |
| 19:48.17 | wat | thanks jintxo |
| 19:48.22 | jintxo | yup |
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| 19:50.19 | xiqxxx | hi, whats f2sprog? |
| 19:50.43 | wat | f2sprog |
| 19:50.57 | xiqxxx | oO |
| 19:51.12 | fbh | you mean e2fsprog? |
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| 19:51.59 | bl4ckcomb | is there a good (maybe gtk gui) tool to configure Xorg for 2 monitors (kinda like the one ubuntu has)? (gnome) |
| 19:52.09 | xiqxxx | yes |
| 19:52.49 | xiqxxx | man, i have this messed up "damn small linux" its debian but woody |
| 19:53.32 | fbh | xiqxxx: e2fsprog is a package :) it contains the filesystem utils for ext2 and ext3 journaled. |
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| 19:53.45 | xiqxxx | i updated sources.list to etch , but it denies everything :( |
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| 19:53.57 | xiqxxx | fbh oh |
| 19:54.23 | fbh | So there is a reason that it requres you to type "Yes, do as I say!" when trying to remove it. |
| 19:54.29 | fbh | requires* |
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| 19:54.45 | xiqxxx | yes |
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| 19:55.54 | xiqxxx | but doesnt work either |
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| 19:56.22 | xiqxxx | dsl is big screwed... kernel 2.4 T_T |
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| 20:05.00 | dacs | i can see my external USB drive when i plug it , but i get "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume '-=Stuff=-'." when i dclick on it!! |
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| 20:07.29 | SQlvpapir | how do I pass a make argument to module-assistant? I would like to either load or install tp-smapi with HDAPS=1 |
| 20:07.39 | dacs | i can see my external USB drive when i plug it , but i get "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume '-=Stuff=-'." when i dclick on it!! |
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| 20:10.36 | AcTiVaTe | dacs: What were you thinking when naming the volume? |
| 20:11.01 | AcTiVaTe | dacs: "let's give the OS some work and put in some characters it will have a hard time reading" |
| 20:11.28 | dacs | AcTiVaTe: what shall i do |
| 20:12.15 | AcTiVaTe | dacs: Must be a way to relabel the volume |
| 20:12.44 | tabgal | hello, what should I do if debian netinst gets stuck while downloading packages?? (that is downloading stopped but it's still 'trying' to download, even if it doesn't restart it) |
| 20:12.47 | AcTiVaTe | I bet fdisk can but perhaps there's a more user friendly approach |
| 20:12.47 | stew | dacs: pong? |
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| 20:14.20 | xiqxxx | where to insert the force-loopbreak command? |
| 20:14.30 | dacs | stew: i have been working on this dvd since last night and everything is just not working |
| 20:14.40 | stew | xiqxxx: why do you need it? in general you shouldn't |
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| 20:14.49 | stew | xiqxxx: are you trying to skip a release? |
| 20:14.52 | dacs | i followed each tutorial on the web |
| 20:15.23 | maQmIgh | after a reboot, a bunch of modules stopped loading automatically and I cant figure out why, any ideas where to look? |
| 20:15.26 | dacs | stew when i play avi in windows machine it is not recognised |
| 20:16.05 | xiqxxx | stew: i upgrade from woody to etch oO |
| 20:16.44 | xiqxxx | all i get is unmet dependencies |
| 20:17.03 | stew | xiqxxx: right, you need to upgrade to sarge first |
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| 20:17.28 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 20:17.28 | stew | xiqxxx: its a problem with e2fsprogs? |
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| 20:17.35 | stew | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 20:17.35 | dpkg | you are running package older than the sarge release and are trying to upgrade to etch, later. skipping releases is not supported. you must first upgrade to sarge, then to etch. edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace 'testing', 'etch', 'stable', 'unstable' with 'sarge' then 'aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade' then ask me about <sarge->etch> for instruction on upgrading to etch |
| 20:17.38 | rindolf | How do I install the XChat Perl plugin on Squeeze? |
| 20:17.44 | jetscreamer | maQmIgh: /etc/modules |
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| 20:18.13 | stew | dacs: did you perhaps use a codec that windows doesn't know about? |
| 20:18.25 | xiqxxx | but, my kernel is 2.4 will he upgrade too? |
| 20:18.29 | jetscreamer | xvid n avi works every time |
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| 20:18.42 | jetscreamer | no it won't unless you specifically install a new kernel |
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| 20:18.42 | dacs | stew: it is very stresful |
| 20:18.45 | enouf | xiqxxx: are you running DSL? |
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| 20:19.24 | jetscreamer | s/n/in/ |
| 20:19.35 | xiqxxx | enouf yes :( and i fucking hate this assfucking shitbag, sorry for bad language but dsl is... |
| 20:19.37 | Devilman | Lenny question: When I run noatun and then run kaffeine, x-windows crashes. It happens every time. Any ideas? |
| 20:20.00 | stew | xiqxxx: we'd recommend installing the 2.6.8 kernel from sarge as part of the upgrade to sarge |
| 20:20.10 | xiqxxx | stew ok |
| 20:20.12 | enouf | Devilman: check bug reports? |
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| 20:20.19 | dacs | stew: even vlc on the same box is not playing it |
| 20:20.23 | Eulex | Devilman, do you get a backtrace? are you running any binary-only driver? |
| 20:20.23 | maQmIgh | jetscreamer: yes, the modules that need to be there, are, but for instance, the bcm5974 module used to load automatically, now it doesn't,... |
| 20:20.28 | stew | xiqxxx: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 should list a kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 or something |
| 20:20.31 | zmotok | hello everyone, anyone here experience an unusable intel driver in debian sid with the latest xorg (7.4, intel driver 2.6.2); is it a known issue? restarting xorg gives a blank screen and a cursor top left side (using vesa works so..) |
| 20:20.33 | pzn | where can I get an old cdimage of debian sarge for i386? |
| 20:20.46 | stew | pzn: archive.debian.org |
| 20:21.09 | xiqxxx | stew thanks :) |
| 20:21.11 | Devilman | Eulex: No backtrace. X closes immediately, no error logging. |
| 20:21.25 | Eulex | Devilman, did you read Xorg.0.log? |
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| 20:21.33 | Eulex | and Xorg.0.log.old |
| 20:21.37 | SQlvpapir | how do I pass a make argument to module-assistant? I would like to either load or install tp-smapi with HDAPS=1 |
| 20:21.47 | Devilman | Eulex: not yet. |
| 20:21.52 | pzn | stew: thanks! |
| 20:22.02 | Eulex | it's usually what contains the backtraces Xorg leaves behind |
| 20:22.17 | enouf | zmotok: i don't know personally but maybe #intel-gfx here on freenode, or #debian-x (devel channel) on irc.oftc.net might know something about it - oh, and check the BTS prior |
| 20:22.28 | Devilman | Eulex: Files do not exist. |
| 20:22.38 | zmotok | enouf: ok, thanks! i'm going to debian-x |
| 20:22.52 | xiqxxx | seems there is no sarge repo |
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| 20:23.05 | enouf | Devilman: anything useful in ~/.xsession-errors? |
| 20:23.05 | stew | xiqxxx: there is on http://archive.debian.org/debian |
| 20:23.06 | Eulex | Devilman, did you look in /var/log/ |
| 20:23.20 | Devilman | Eulex: First place I looked. ;-) |
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| 20:24.31 | Eulex | what, and there's no Xorg.0.log? |
| 20:24.32 | dacs | any help folks |
| 20:24.47 | Eulex | any Xorg* files at all? |
| 20:24.52 | enouf | dacs: what's the issue? with a DVD or? |
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| 20:25.21 | Devilman | Eulex: wtmp and wtmp1 are the last files, nothing after. |
| 20:25.46 | Eulex | Devilman, upper case is by default sorted before lower case. X would be before a. |
| 20:25.46 | dacs | enouf: i have a dvd, that i ripped to my hdd. i want to take clips out of it, and then save burn it to a dvd |
| 20:25.56 | dacs | enouf: i amd using avidemux |
| 20:26.01 | enouf | Devilman: that also sounds like a KDE 3.5.x issue (maybe only a Debian dist. one, but) a KDE one nonetheless |
| 20:26.09 | Eulex | or, well, not by default, but usually |
| 20:26.19 | Devilman | Eulex: not as root on my box, but either way, no X or x logfiles. |
| 20:26.39 | enouf | dacs: you ripped how? are you using mplayer/mencoder? |
| 20:26.45 | simonrvn | LC_COLLATE=C would be so IIRC |
| 20:26.52 | Eulex | Devilman, hmm, that's really strange. and you're running debian and xorg? and your hdd is not filled up to the brink? |
| 20:26.59 | Devilman | enouf: Yea, I'm running KDE 3.5 |
| 20:27.02 | jetscreamer | he used avidemux enouf |
| 20:27.06 | jetscreamer | afaik |
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| 20:27.17 | jetscreamer | i don't know what he did though |
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| 20:27.29 | enouf | dacs: i don't know what avidemux is, but i know it has to do with AVI and demultiplexing, not MPEG2 DVD-ROM |
| 20:27.31 | jetscreamer | can encode stuff though |
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| 20:27.42 | jetscreamer | avidemux works fine on mpeg/vobs |
| 20:27.45 | Devilman | Eulex: I think the file ends up as an orphaned inode and is popped upon reboot. |
| 20:27.57 | enouf | ffmpeg and dd work fine on DVDs |
| 20:28.23 | jetscreamer | avidemux is fairly simple to use.. i use it and mencoder depending |
| 20:28.24 | enouf | why would one eventhink about AVI when MPEG2 is involved? |
| 20:28.26 | Devilman | enouf: regarding kde 3.5 is this a known bug? |
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| 20:28.42 | jetscreamer | it's just a name... |
| 20:28.42 | enouf | Devilman: there are many in KDE 3.5.x |
| 20:29.02 | enouf | Devilman: i know .. i've experiemced them |
| 20:29.10 | Eulex | Devilman, oh... well, it's usually there for me, even in case of crashes, and if you didn't, I guess you'd have an old Xorg.0.log from a successful start. anyway, about the orphaned inode theory, did you take a look in lost+found? |
| 20:29.14 | simonrvn | enouf: why not just go for mpeg2? exactly. |
| 20:29.17 | Devilman | enouf: Ok then, I'll just work-around it until the upgrade. :-) |
| 20:29.17 | jetscreamer | and he's trying to go mpeg2->avi iirc ... i would htink he would use xvid but no idea |
| 20:29.31 | enouf | Devilman: your particular one, no i haven't hit, if it is indeed a bug |
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| 20:29.55 | enouf | right |
| 20:30.23 | Devilman | Eulex: ls /lost+found/ (empty) |
| 20:30.27 | simonrvn | Devilman: are you an R&B fan? |
| 20:30.30 | Eulex | hmm |
| 20:30.45 | dacs | jetscreamer: how can i take those clips and make them mpeg for god sake |
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| 20:30.57 | jetscreamer | clips? define clips |
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| 20:31.20 | Devilman | Eulex: I guess I can just work around it, disable the noatun binary (since I prefer kaffeine) until an upgrade comes along. |
| 20:31.29 | dacs | jetscreamer: from 00:01:00 - 00:20:00 |
| 20:31.45 | SQlvpapir | how do I pass a make argument to module-assistant? I would like to either load or install tp-smapi with HDAPS=1 |
| 20:31.47 | enouf | Devilman: you might want to toy around with sound settings in K control center or something .. kill artsd maybe even |
| 20:31.48 | jetscreamer | i mean, a clip of what? what codec/container? |
| 20:32.06 | Devilman | enouf: Ok. Thanks. :-) |
| 20:32.43 | dacs | jetscreamer: at this point anything man. Something that i will be able to fit in one DVD |
| 20:32.49 | simonrvn | SQlvpapir: is that a build-time setting or a run-time one? |
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| 20:33.18 | SQlvpapir | simonrvn: build time I suppose |
| 20:33.24 | jetscreamer | dacs: ok you had a ...?... and cut some stuff from it, and you want to put them all together into a dvd compliant format... |
| 20:34.02 | jetscreamer | how big is the smallest clip? and are they all from the same file or different files |
| 20:34.11 | dacs | jetscreamer: yes, i have to make like 10 of clips from the original dvd |
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| 20:34.28 | simonrvn | SQlvpapir: so export it to your environment and cross your fingers m-a pays attention to that ;). or read its man page.. it might say if it reads in environment variables. |
| 20:34.37 | jetscreamer | just cat them together if you want mpeg :) |
| 20:34.40 | jetscreamer | is one way |
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| 20:34.44 | simonrvn | SQlvpapir: or have a way to pass in args like that. |
| 20:35.03 | dacs | jetscreamer: they are random |
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| 20:35.51 | SQlvpapir | simonrvn: I read its man page w/o luck. do you have a hint on where to read up on "exporting it to environment"? I have no idea what that implies |
| 20:36.13 | simonrvn | export FOO=bar in the shell you're running m-a in. |
| 20:36.20 | enouf | Devilman: as you're t-shooting, use something like "lsof | grep 'flash|artsd|esd|pulse'" to see possible open file handles that might conflict and even "fuser -m /dev/dsp /dev/snd/*" to see PIDs |
| 20:36.55 | simonrvn | tube-shooting? time-shooting? |
| 20:36.57 | simonrvn | :P |
| 20:37.13 | enouf | you're in trouble now! |
| 20:37.16 | enouf | :-p |
| 20:37.18 | pzn | how to generate an iso image from http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ ? |
| 20:37.49 | enouf | genisoimage |
| 20:37.52 | simonrvn | why? it's ancient. |
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| 20:38.14 | enouf | which is successor to mkisofs |
| 20:38.40 | jetscreamer | dacs: you can just use avidemux and append each file, then tell it to do it's thing |
| 20:38.53 | pzn | enouf: that is not what I need. I have a debian repository and want an debian iso image of CD-1 |
| 20:38.56 | jetscreamer | you want mpeg-ps not ts iirc |
| 20:39.12 | maQmIgh | jetscreamer: fwiw, found the problem is splashy, removed it and everything is fine. |
| 20:39.23 | dacs | jetscreamer: how do i use append |
| 20:39.37 | jetscreamer | lemme look .. it';s under 'file' iirc |
| 20:39.41 | pzn | simonrvn: have around 2 hundred of hardwares with debian woody inside and I need to recompile a single program to update in them... need a computer with the same libc, etc... |
| 20:39.56 | jetscreamer | yeah click file, in the menu |
| 20:40.01 | jetscreamer | 2nd one down |
| 20:40.09 | simonrvn | pzn: ugh. good luck with that. |
| 20:40.12 | jetscreamer | you probably need to open one first |
| 20:41.02 | pzn | simonrvn: ... I have the cd right here... I kept it... but it is damaged and do not read :-( |
| 20:41.06 | dacs | jetscreamer: but how to i cut the clips |
| 20:41.13 | dacs | jetscreamer: how do i save them |
| 20:41.22 | jetscreamer | oh i thought you did ... that a-b stuff down there |
| 20:41.34 | dacs | jetscreamer: only for the first one |
| 20:41.39 | simonrvn | pzn: oh crap... well enouf said what to do. might want to look at jigdo too. |
| 20:41.53 | jetscreamer | dacs: under 'edit' |
| 20:42.03 | jetscreamer | or just click the a b |
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| 20:42.51 | dacs | jetscreamer: yes, say i set 'a' for 10 and 'b' for 20. how do i save it |
| 20:43.12 | dacs | jetscreamer: do i just click on save video |
| 20:43.23 | jetscreamer | edit, cut, then save |
| 20:43.33 | jetscreamer | hit the edit in menu, then cut |
| 20:44.01 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 20:44.08 | jetscreamer | you need to change the output format |
| 20:44.18 | jetscreamer | it should be avi by default, change to mpeg |
| 20:44.28 | jetscreamer | -ps |
| 20:44.57 | jetscreamer | the vid & aud you should just be able to copy (those are the codecs) |
| 20:44.59 | dacs | jetscreamer: it will take 180 min to save less than 10 min?? |
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| 20:45.07 | jetscreamer | shouldn't |
| 20:45.44 | jetscreamer | the video and audio ones, you want to set on 'copy' |
| 20:46.01 | jetscreamer | the format one, you want mpeg-ps |
| 20:46.21 | jetscreamer | (on the left side) |
| 20:46.39 | pzn | anyone here has a debian woody i386 cd-1 to generate an iso image and put somewhere for me? I need it... |
| 20:46.54 | jetscreamer | i actually have a woody disk somewhere |
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| 20:47.08 | jetscreamer | i saw it a couple weeks ago when i was cleaning out some boxes |
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| 20:47.55 | pzn | jetscreamer: if you find it, just let me know! |
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| 20:51.09 | pzn | jetscreamer, simonrvn: I found the debian iso at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 20:51.13 | enouf | pzn: i don't know if this is applicable, but might try folks in #debian-cd ? |
| 20:51.26 | enouf | oh, nm |
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| 20:54.33 | enouf | pzn: (et al) just for clarification and correction, that channel is on irc.debian.org |
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| 20:55.12 | pzn | enouf: ok, thanks! |
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| 20:55.44 | zmotok | enouf: i got no answers on #debian-x, what was the other channel you suggested? thank you again |
| 20:55.53 | vtm | my internet went out for like four hours the other night..my router's configuration is all the same, but my network is completely down on debian lenny |
| 20:56.11 | vtm | all i did was unplug the ethernet cable...dhclient isn't working and /etc/init.d/networking restart isn't either |
| 20:56.31 | enouf | zmotok: yes, devel channels can be very quiet for long periods .. or .. nobody watching knows .. but, i think i mentioned #intel-gfx here on freenode |
| 20:56.32 | vtm | i know the internet still works, because i set it up the same way on another computer...something is wrong with the settings and i don't know what it is..can anyone help? |
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| 20:57.19 | zmotok | enouf: no, there were people there (talking) but had no idea on why this problem happened; yes, the intel-gfx was the one you mentioned before and i forgot its name, thanks |
| 20:57.53 | enouf | vtm: i would reset the router (actually just power cycle it) Pull cat5 out, power off, let stand for 20 sec, .. then do the reverse |
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| 21:01.18 | enouf | vtm: is it a DNS issue? see /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:01.53 | enouf | vtm: can you ping -c 4 google.com? if not try one of it's ip.ad.dr.es.ses |
| 21:02.17 | enouf | vtm: does ls /sys/class/net show your ifaces you expect? |
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| 21:03.03 | vtm | enouf: it's supposed to be assigned automatically |
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| 21:03.15 | vtm | but no, i can't ping anything..and dhclient doesn't work.. |
| 21:03.23 | vtm | it just does like five lines of "DHCDISCOVER blahblah" |
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| 21:03.28 | vtm | or "DHCREQUEST" something |
| 21:03.41 | vtm | but i should unplug ethernet, power off router, then what? |
| 21:03.49 | flyingparchment | how long does it take for nfsv4 client to expire an idmap negative cache entry? i've added a new user and restarted idmapd, but files owner by the uid before it was created still show as 'nobody' instead of the new uid |
| 21:03.51 | vtm | plug back in and turn on router? hows that gonna do anything |
| 21:03.56 | rektide | i keep getting a "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" for hal when i do "dpkg --configure --pending -a": how do i find more information on what the source of this error is? |
| 21:04.05 | enouf | wait 20 secs, then power router on, then plug in cat5 cable |
| 21:04.33 | enouf | vtm: it works for me when my router freaks out every now and then .. that's how |
| 21:05.02 | enouf | vtm: do borth arp and route come up empty? |
| 21:05.26 | vtm | enouf: i'll go check../sys/class/net shows eth0 and lo |
| 21:05.31 | enouf | IIRC .. one of those commands will lag big time if it's not working |
| 21:05.35 | vtm | and there's nothing...interesting in resolv.conf |
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| 21:05.51 | enouf | your ISP DNS nameservers should ne there |
| 21:06.18 | vtm | well they aren't |
| 21:06.23 | vtm | and arp does nothing and route is empty |
| 21:06.26 | enouf | but if you can't ping any IP address .. that shouldn't be the issue |
| 21:06.39 | gynterk | iptables? |
| 21:06.45 | vtm | im telling you..i need to somehow completely reconfigure my network and let it automatically detect and configure |
| 21:06.50 | vtm | i have no iptables rules |
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| 21:07.20 | enouf | vtm: try "route add default gw 192.x.x.x dev eth0" (or similar ... make the IP correct :-)) |
| 21:07.37 | vtm | bah |
| 21:07.53 | gynterk | use static not dhcp |
| 21:08.11 | vtm | why static? |
| 21:08.14 | vtm | dhcp was working earlier |
| 21:08.16 | gynterk | for testing |
| 21:08.19 | vtm | i tried. |
| 21:08.27 | gynterk | and works with static? |
| 21:08.33 | vtm | no? |
| 21:08.48 | gynterk | i think you break something... |
| 21:08.54 | gynterk | broke* |
| 21:08.56 | vtm | if you say so |
| 21:08.57 | rektide | is there any way to see what dpkg does when it tries to install packages? my hal install is failing and all it gives is a useless "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" error: i dont see any way to diagnose wth is going on |
| 21:09.13 | vtm | i didn't change any configuration..only thing that happened was my internet went out because of a storm..and i unplugged my ethernet cable |
| 21:09.14 | vtm | i didn't do anything else. |
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| 21:09.26 | n-iCe | how can I know my audio path |
| 21:09.27 | gynterk | does your router got connection? |
| 21:09.31 | n-iCe | like for vide /dev/video0 |
| 21:09.32 | enouf | rektide: add 'set -x' to the .postinst script |
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| 21:10.22 | rektide | i just disocvered dpkg -Dh that talks about --debug |
| 21:10.22 | vtm | gynterk: it isn't a hardware issue |
| 21:10.23 | xororand | hi. is it possible to get a list of all installed packages, including the release they're from? i.e. something like "dpkg -l", only with indicators for stable/testing/sid/experimental, etc... |
| 21:10.35 | vtm | enouf: the route add command said "SIOCADDRT: No such process" |
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| 21:10.49 | rektide | enouf: yup looks like i have to, dpkg forks so --debug is useless |
| 21:10.49 | gynterk | hm |
| 21:11.02 | vtm | is there not a dpgk-configure thing for networking? |
| 21:11.07 | enouf | rektide: just reading the file might give you clues - look in /var/lib/dpkg/info or something like that |
| 21:11.38 | enouf | vtm: not that i'm aware of |
| 21:11.47 | vtm | so what can i do? |
| 21:12.03 | vtm | i can't access my router, either |
| 21:12.09 | vtm | through http://10.0.0.1 |
| 21:12.10 | rektide | k, haldaemon was trying to create new haldaemon user/group 's and was tripping on itself. |
| 21:12.16 | rektide | stupid haldaemon |
| 21:12.28 | rektide | sudo deluser; sudo delgroup and it worked fine |
| 21:12.31 | rektide | thanks enouf |
| 21:12.36 | rektide | i didnt even know about sh's set -x |
| 21:12.44 | enouf | np |
| 21:12.59 | rektide | much less that htere was a /var/lib/dpkg/info holding all these scripts |
| 21:13.39 | vtm | ! |
| 21:13.45 | Lord | how to execute a command each time i open a console ? |
| 21:13.55 | enouf | rektide: hrm .. oh yeah, i recall something about hal group getting renamed to hal-daemon or something not long ago |
| 21:14.03 | enouf | rektide: see /msg dpkg groups |
| 21:14.16 | vtm | well shit |
| 21:14.17 | vtm | this is ridiculous.. |
| 21:14.26 | vtm | how can something break so easily? |
| 21:14.46 | enouf | rektide: if you removed that group to bypass hung .postinst, i'd think you should recreate it manually after |
| 21:15.23 | rektide | the init script was failing because it was attempting to create it, and it already existed |
| 21:15.28 | n-iCe | what's the commun path for a microphone? for my webcam is /dev/video0 |
| 21:15.30 | rektide | so i deleted it, and let the postinit create it |
| 21:15.36 | enouf | ahh |
| 21:16.23 | enouf | rektide: that sounds like a broken .postinst ... where there was no proper if [ .. or test to see if that group already exists |
| 21:16.46 | enouf | i mean user and group .. blahblah |
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| 21:17.42 | rektide | i can file a bug i suppose; i suspect it was just me though that found the issue |
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| 21:18.41 | enouf | rektide: looking for and/or filing a bug about it would help others .. thanks |
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| 21:24.23 | n-iCe | how can I know my microphone route? |
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| 21:29.39 | JordiGH | I don't understand the syntax to add a new alternative of my own. |
| 21:30.10 | JordiGH | I just created /usr/bin/emacsdammit that runs emacslient if an existing emacs server exists or creates the server if it doesn't. How do I tell alternatives to point to /usr/bin/emacsdammit? |
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| 21:32.22 | vtm | i swear my network configuration is all fubar |
| 21:32.28 | vtm | IS THERE ANYWAY TO RECONFIGURE/RESET |
| 21:32.40 | JordiGH | Oh, I was missing the priority. |
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| 21:32.45 | Gryfelhase | I have a streange behaivor on my eeepc: I went to bed at about 20:30 and stood up, at 23:10... The eeepc run at this time.... but the clock contnued only to 21:11 until that time... |
| 21:32.47 | JordiGH | vtm: Reinstall Debian? |
| 21:32.55 | azeem | vtm: please don't write in all-caps |
| 21:32.57 | n-iCe | how can I know my microphone route? |
| 21:33.09 | Gryfelhase | any ideas ? |
| 21:33.22 | ringo999 | for some reason my sounds stopped working, looks like the module isn't loaded. it's a 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) |
| 21:33.24 | vtm | JordiGH: that would work, but the idea is completely moronic |
| 21:33.34 | vtm | azeem: please help me fix my network issue :D |
| 21:33.39 | JordiGH | vtm: It was tailored for morons. |
| 21:33.45 | vtm | debian? |
| 21:33.47 | ringo999 | what is the module I have to load for that sound device? |
| 21:34.01 | synaptic | Hi I'm attempting to install quanta on debian lenny through apt-get and it's telling me that I have "broken packages" |
| 21:34.08 | vtm | "oh i'm having network issues! i know, i'll reinstall!!" |
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| 21:34.29 | vtm | azeem: exactly, you have nothing useful to contribute. |
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| 21:35.05 | azeem | vtm: I had useful advice about how to behave to contribute |
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| 21:35.17 | vtm | that isn't helping me. |
| 21:35.24 | azeem | but us. |
| 21:35.26 | war9407 | Where can I find op-panel in debian-testign for asterisk? |
| 21:35.31 | vtm | you can help yourself by helping me :D |
| 21:35.40 | synaptic | http://pastebin.com/m15cc4392 that is the error that it gives me, strangely enough all of these packages are installed on my system! |
| 21:35.42 | azeem | I need to vote in the DPL elections now |
| 21:36.01 | jetscreamer | war9407: maybe not-free or contrib? not sure never heard of it |
| 21:36.07 | vtm | enouf: please help. this is frustrating |
| 21:36.11 | vtm | i've tried everything i know |
| 21:36.20 | war9407 | Package op-panel is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 21:36.21 | synaptic | What is your problem vtm? |
| 21:36.29 | jetscreamer | op-panel - switchboard type application for the Asterisk PBX |
| 21:36.36 | jetscreamer | it's in sources it seems |
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| 21:36.45 | jetscreamer | testing eh |
| 21:36.49 | jetscreamer | probably why |
| 21:36.52 | vtm | synaptic: my network is obviously fubar'd |
| 21:36.52 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 21:36.52 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 21:37.05 | synaptic | How is it fubar'd? |
| 21:37.19 | vtm | synaptic: my internet went down for like 12 hours..i unplugged the cat5 from the back.. |
| 21:37.26 | vtm | and when my internet was finally back on, i plugged the cable back up.. |
| 21:37.29 | vtm | and i can't get a connection. |
| 21:37.33 | jetscreamer | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=op-panel&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 21:37.48 | vtm | i tried the same setup on a windows box..and it worked..so it seems like a configuration problem on debian |
| 21:38.06 | enouf | vtm: reboot |
| 21:38.10 | synaptic | Have you checked ifconfig and all the obvious places to check? |
| 21:38.12 | vtm | i have..many times |
| 21:38.12 | ringo999 | how can i change the default sound device? |
| 21:38.18 | vtm | synaptic: yes |
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| 21:38.24 | enouf | vtm: i yhought so ... |
| 21:38.28 | synaptic | When you try to ping something what does it tell you? |
| 21:38.31 | enouf | s/y/t |
| 21:38.36 | vtm | synaptic: in "ifconfig" shouldn't there be a "BCAST Address" under eth0? |
| 21:38.45 | vtm | synaptic: unknown host |
| 21:38.54 | synaptic | Okay what does "route" tell you? |
| 21:38.58 | vtm | empty |
| 21:39.13 | synaptic | Just one nic? |
| 21:39.13 | azeem | is this a desktop or a server? |
| 21:39.15 | enouf | vtm: see /msg dpkg z25 (though likely not the issue) |
| 21:39.16 | vtm | yes |
| 21:39.20 | azeem | do you get your IP via DHCP? |
| 21:39.24 | vtm | i do |
| 21:39.35 | azeem | then check your DHCP server |
| 21:39.36 | synaptic | First type "mii-tool" and see if you have a link |
| 21:39.44 | enouf | arp is empty as well |
| 21:39.44 | azeem | and or try to run dhclient manually |
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| 21:39.51 | vtm | azeem: check it? what do you mean |
| 21:39.57 | vtm | azeem: i tried..it didn't work |
| 21:40.03 | azeem | !doesn't work |
| 21:40.04 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 21:40.10 | enouf | which means his system isn't aware of the router's address |
| 21:40.12 | vtm | like four lines of "DHCREQUEST on eth0 port 67" etc |
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| 21:40.25 | vtm | enouf: apparently |
| 21:40.28 | vtm | so how do i fix that? |
| 21:40.30 | azeem | vtm: sounds like your DHCP server is down, maybe |
| 21:40.35 | vtm | that's impossible |
| 21:40.40 | vtm | it works on any other machine. |
| 21:40.44 | vtm | wait.. |
| 21:40.52 | synaptic | Are you connecting to a average router? Like linksys, etc. |
| 21:40.56 | vtm | netgear |
| 21:40.59 | synaptic | Okay |
| 21:41.03 | vtm | there's nothing wrong with the router, im sure |
| 21:41.05 | vtm | 100% sure |
| 21:41.08 | synaptic | and dhclient doesn't give you anything? |
| 21:41.14 | vtm | bah brb. |
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| 21:41.20 | synaptic | Hmm.... |
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| 21:42.05 | synaptic | http://pastebin.com/m15cc4392 |
| 21:42.10 | synaptic | Anyone want to help me with this? |
| 21:42.22 | synaptic | All of the packages it lists are already installed on my system |
| 21:42.34 | synaptic | but it still says that there are broken packages |
| 21:42.53 | synaptic | Oh wait a minute .. |
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| 21:43.44 | synaptic | heh, left my sid repositories on, my fault |
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| 21:45.47 | vtm | synaptic, enouf: mii-tools said "SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: operation not supported no mii interfaces found" |
| 21:46.10 | vtm | dhclient has like eight lines of "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 etc" |
| 21:46.23 | vtm | then "no dhcpoffers received no working leases in persistent database - sleeping" |
| 21:46.59 | enouf | vtm: it was someone else that suggested mii-tool.. i would suggest ethtool - and no idea what's up with port 67 :-P |
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| 21:47.18 | vtm | me either |
| 21:47.20 | vtm | ethtool? |
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| 21:48.22 | Akuw | hi |
| 21:48.32 | Akuw | i want to see a webpage with applets |
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| 21:48.45 | Akuw | i just installed "Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture dependent files)" |
| 21:48.52 | jetscreamer | you missed |
| 21:48.53 | Akuw | but still can't see applets |
| 21:49.08 | Eulex | you need the package containing the java plugin |
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| 21:49.14 | dacs | anyone here familiar with avidemux |
| 21:49.19 | Akuw | hummmm |
| 21:49.28 | Akuw | any using synaptic? |
| 21:49.29 | jetscreamer | sun-java6-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6 |
| 21:49.40 | jetscreamer | or make it 5 |
| 21:49.42 | vtm | enouf: suggestions" |
| 21:49.48 | vtm | ethtool isn't installed |
| 21:49.49 | jetscreamer | sun-java5-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0 |
| 21:49.59 | Akuw | ok |
| 21:50.01 | Akuw | i fund |
| 21:50.07 | jetscreamer | install it? |
| 21:50.15 | Akuw | yeah |
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| 21:50.24 | Akuw | after that i need to close bowser? |
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| 21:51.34 | Akuw | i did, but still can see the applet in that page |
| 21:52.05 | Akuw | can't |
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| 21:55.20 | jetscreamer | xine-plugin - xine-based media player plugin for Mozilla browsers mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC |
| 21:55.46 | blime | anybody got gwibber working on debian lenny? |
| 21:56.00 | jetscreamer | there used to be a thing about the plugin needing a symlink but i forget that was a long time ago |
| 21:56.22 | vtm | this is some bullshit |
| 21:56.23 | vtm | fuck debian. |
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| 21:56.39 | bolt | wtf? |
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| 21:57.55 | bolt | enouf: got the prompt working :P |
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| 21:58.04 | foetus | a easteregg |
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| 21:58.54 | Akuw | hey, that applet no work |
| 21:59.02 | enouf | bolt: so i heard :0 .. and no, i don't want to see it :-P |
| 21:59.22 | bolt | enouf: http://imagebin.ca/view/sJFu-BY.html |
| 21:59.23 | vtm | i do dhclient and then dmesg |
| 21:59.25 | bolt | sorry, i had to |
| 21:59.32 | vtm | and i see "ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP) eth0 link is not ready" |
| 21:59.36 | vtm | is that significnat, enouf? |
| 21:59.54 | ssamoon | anyone elses console font change after update recently? |
| 21:59.55 | foetus | got my 2.6.21-mm2 working.. |
| 22:00.11 | azeem | vtm: what does "lspci | grep Ether" say? |
| 22:00.14 | enouf | vtm: are you sure your correct NIC modules is loading? pastebin output of lspci -nnk |
| 22:00.28 | Akuw | enouf: hi man, can you help? |
| 22:00.29 | vtm | enouf: how am i gonna do that? |
| 22:00.37 | bolt | ssamoon: need context. what did you update? which branch? how did the font change? |
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| 22:01.16 | enouf | Akuw: i don't use applets, nor java, so i guess not |
| 22:01.28 | Akuw | ok |
| 22:01.45 | vtm | enouf: the card shows up |
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| 22:01.56 | vtm | and it shows two modules "in use" |
| 22:02.06 | ssamoon | bolt: sorry.. sid, updated a day or two ago after not updating for say 2 weeks. font changes halfway through boot process before login prompt to some skinny crappy looking font. if i run X and then kill it then i get the old default font back. I think i may just be looking for the default font name to use in /etc/console-tools/config |
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| 22:02.31 | xoz_ | vtm: configure static address and ping the router to check your connection. |
| 22:02.34 | enouf | vtm: why two? is one a dependency? lsmod <modulename> | grep -i depend |
| 22:02.40 | enouf | er sorry |
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| 22:02.49 | enouf | vtm: modinfo <modulename> | grep -i depend |
| 22:03.10 | bolt | ssamoon: probably. i prefer terminus, both in X and outside |
| 22:03.15 | enouf | vtm: and i would certainly work with static for now |
| 22:04.37 | vtm | enouf: it says "kernel driver in use: dmfe/kernel modules in use: tulip, dmfe" |
| 22:04.39 | ssamoon | bolt: thats what i use in X.. i did recall seeing console-terminus being installed when i updated, maybe it switched |
| 22:04.43 | vtm | depends = empty |
| 22:05.08 | bolt | ssamoon: probably |
| 22:05.35 | ssamoon | bolt: any idea where it would change so that its only being used on boot, and not after i kill X? looks like my /etc/console-tools/config is default |
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| 22:06.28 | Akuw | anybody can help? |
| 22:06.54 | enouf | vtm: tulip? dmfe? never heard of either of those |
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| 22:08.18 | foetus | MII, maybe.. |
| 22:08.26 | vtm | what the hell |
| 22:08.30 | vtm | my ips are all fubared |
| 22:08.51 | bolt | ssamoon: it's probably running it to begin with. if you're used to the font that's used during the early boot process, just stop console-tools from setting the font in the first place |
| 22:09.02 | vyrus001 | sigh, gnome dependancys still broken? http://pastebin.com/f4cf67670 |
| 22:09.21 | ssamoon | bolt: ok, i'll look into that, not too familiar with those tools but i'll rtm |
| 22:09.28 | streuner | sid? |
| 22:09.33 | bolt | ssamoon: good boy :P |
| 22:09.43 | enouf | ssamoon: enable bootlogd .. i think it's a kernel font issue.. |
| 22:09.59 | ssamoon | wasn't aware his kernel had one of those actually |
| 22:10.11 | streuner | vyrus001: sid? |
| 22:10.21 | vyrus001 | streuner: yes but ive got squeeze in my apt source too |
| 22:10.23 | orveldv | erm, any idea why when I try to upgrade libssl and openssl on my Etch, it says they are untrusted packages? |
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| 22:10.37 | streuner | well :-) |
| 22:10.42 | streuner | dpkg, bobbitt |
| 22:10.42 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorena_Bobbitt]? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system, "debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 22:10.42 | vyrus001 | sigh... more waiting |
| 22:10.49 | ssamoon | i'm actually a little confused now, just booted an older kernel to test something else, agh. anyway i'll look it up. thanks guys |
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| 22:11.07 | jintxo | vyrus001, it's telling you the packages "are not going to be installed", not that there's a dependency problem with them. try installing the correct version of each package because it seems to me like you probably have packages from different versions mixed together or something similar |
| 22:11.16 | xoz_ | olejorgenb: /msg dpkg etch key |
| 22:11.27 | xoz_ | orveldv: /msg dpkg etch key |
| 22:11.32 | streuner | jintxo: gnome is actually broken in sid... |
| 22:11.48 | gravity | works for me in sid |
| 22:11.51 | jintxo | vyrus001, ^there you go |
| 22:11.58 | vyrus001 | jintxo: i dist-upgraded just to make sure i was latest gen |
| 22:12.00 | vyrus001 | hm |
| 22:12.04 | vyrus001 | wonder why mine is screwed |
| 22:12.09 | streuner | gravity: for me too |
| 22:12.14 | vyrus001 | gravity: feel like pming me your sources? |
| 22:12.17 | orveldv | xoz_: oh. thanks. |
| 22:12.23 | jintxo | why does everyone want to use id and then never knows how to fix the breakage? it gets old |
| 22:12.27 | vyrus001 | maby my source lines are just screwed up |
| 22:12.28 | jintxo | s/id/sid |
| 22:12.43 | gravity | vyrus001: um... why? |
| 22:12.44 | streuner | gravity: but some packages arent install-able... |
| 22:13.24 | gravity | streuner: Well, every one that I had on my system was fine. I don't think I had the full gnome metapackage intalled though |
| 22:13.26 | streuner | vyrus001: just use official mirrors |
| 22:13.39 | xoz_ | change sid sources.list. some mirrors are late in update |
| 22:13.39 | streuner | gravity: no |
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| 22:14.04 | vyrus001 | does dist-upgrade not upgrade everything or something |
| 22:14.20 | vyrus001 | cus if im using the offical mirror for sid and its updated i dont see why mine dosent work but everybody elses does? |
| 22:14.26 | gravity | ... no? |
| 22:14.28 | streuner | gravity: apt-get install gnome-session doesnt work... (if you want install GNOME) |
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| 22:15.21 | streuner | if you have some packages already installed, it just work |
| 22:15.39 | jintxo | vyrus001, most probably because they're not using the exact same list of packages you are, they didn't install them at the same time you did, and/or you have some pakages installed from one debian version and some from another |
| 22:17.02 | streuner | gravity: you should know the drill better :-P (about BIG packages) |
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| 22:17.32 | gravity | streuner: You said gnome was broken. It works fine on my system. Not being able to install it from scratch isn't the same thing. |
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| 22:18.22 | vyrus001 | jintxo: aside from dist-upgrade is there a way to un-install anything that "shouldnt be there" ? |
| 22:18.35 | streuner | gravity: true, but its after all, unstable... |
| 22:18.47 | Akuw | anybody can help? |
| 22:19.02 | jetscreamer | well i hope it works now.. |
| 22:19.10 | jetscreamer | i stil need to make a backup |
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| 22:19.20 | gravity | Akuw: Just ask your question. If someone can help you, they will |
| 22:19.31 | Akuw | i did |
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| 22:19.36 | jintxo | vyrus001, last time I had a problem like yours I uninstalled (with apt-get remove) anything remotely related to gnome and then installed it from squeeze repos. you shouldn't be using sid. |
| 22:19.47 | vyrus001 | why? |
| 22:20.03 | jintxo | vyrus001, because you don't know how to fix breakage |
| 22:20.06 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.14 | jintxo | which is common in sid |
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| 22:20.41 | Akuw | i am using lenny |
| 22:20.58 | vyrus001 | jintxo: normaly all the issues i run into with sid are packages "not working" |
| 22:21.15 | jpinx | Akuw: the instructions on the sun website are good |
| 22:21.21 | azeem | euh |
| 22:21.21 | vyrus001 | but i compile alot of shit so sid tends to bitch at me less and compiling something when its broken in package isnt bad |
| 22:21.33 | azeem | lenny now has a native Java Runtime |
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| 22:21.41 | Akuw | but using synaptic? |
| 22:21.43 | jpinx | it's been a while sisnce I installed java, but it was clear - if a bit long-winded |
| 22:21.55 | azeem | !install java |
| 22:21.55 | dpkg | For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java-6-jre. Also ask me about <install java etch>. |
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| 22:21.59 | vtm | piece of horse SHIT |
| 22:22.00 | gravity | Akuw: What browser are you using? |
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| 22:22.44 | jintxo | vyrus001, whatever problem you run into, you're not gonna find help easily. you are gong to end up with an unmaintainable mess. if you don't mind reinstalling every once in a while, then that's fine |
| 22:22.51 | Akuw | Iceweasel 3.0.6 |
| 22:22.55 | fisxoj | anyone know about dbus getting messed up every time I use apt? It keeps stopping services to finish configuring, and then things don't come back up and it spits errors. Everything works fine on a reboot, though. |
| 22:23.11 | jintxo | but it does get old eventually |
| 22:23.59 | jpinx | vyrus001: if you want something less crumbly than sid - use squeeze |
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| 22:25.43 | streuner | <streuner> vyrus001: sid? |
| 22:25.43 | streuner | <vyrus001> streuner: yes but ive got squeeze in my apt source too |
| 22:25.58 | streuner | too late :-) |
| 22:26.26 | streuner | Who knows, what he is running and not, after all? :-) |
| 22:27.30 | Akuw | gravity: then? |
| 22:27.46 | orveldv | erm, I've run "apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-key update" on my Etch but it still complaints that libkrb53 libssl0.9.8 openssl are untrusted |
| 22:27.48 | orveldv | any more ideas? |
| 22:28.01 | gravity | Akuw: I don't know. It tends to work for me. What happens when you go to a page with an applet? |
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| 22:28.16 | izua | i have only the base system installed on a box |
| 22:28.17 | vyrus001 | streuner: well i figure ill go back to just usin sid and clean whats installed and wait for the packs to get updaded |
| 22:28.27 | gravity | Akuw: I assume you installed sun-java5-plugin |
| 22:28.29 | izua | what do i need to install so it can play music? |
| 22:28.41 | izua | (it has an old ISA toshiba soundcard, which is listed in dmesg) |
| 22:28.41 | gravity | Akuw: The short description you gave isn't as useful as the package name |
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| 22:30.49 | vtm | enouf, synaptic: during bootup i get errors like "starting NFS common utilities: failed!" |
| 22:30.50 | vtm | is that significant |
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| 22:31.21 | mischief6 | anyone know offhand what to put in .screenrc to increase scrollback? |
| 22:31.22 | jintxo | vtm, the significant message was the one about the link not being up you pasted earlier, in my opinion |
| 22:31.25 | izua | is it enough to do apt-get install alsa? |
| 22:31.44 | vtm | jintxo: well..what is it "not ready" |
| 22:31.52 | vtm | why is it* |
| 22:32.06 | vtm | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
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| 22:32.42 | jintxo | vtm, in nomral circumstances that means there is physical problem (cable, RJ45 connector, switch port, etc etc) do you get green lights on the ethernet card and on the swithc or whatever it's plugged in to? |
| 22:32.53 | vtm | yes |
| 22:33.00 | jintxo | then I don't know :-) |
| 22:33.08 | vtm | wonder if i switch my card to a different slot and change cables |
| 22:33.11 | adi1 | hi all |
| 22:33.12 | vtm | and a different port on the router |
| 22:33.24 | adi1 | does anyone use epiphany browser here? |
| 22:34.03 | adi1 | how to modify some setting on about:config in epiphany 2.26? |
| 22:34.23 | adi1 | it seems they cant be changed as needed |
| 22:34.33 | adi1 | is this a bug or something? |
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| 22:35.10 | dacs | adil use iceweasel |
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| 22:35.25 | adi1 | why? |
| 22:35.53 | adi1 | i like epiphany whic is part of gnome project |
| 22:36.07 | adi1 | and is so well integrated with gnome |
| 22:36.31 | adi1 | and for me is the fastest browser i have ever had |
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| 22:37.14 | adi1 | its just that it miss some important extentions |
| 22:37.30 | dacs | up to u |
| 22:37.49 | enouf | orveldv: do you have security.debian.org in your mirrors list? |
| 22:37.58 | adi1 | ok thanks |
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| 22:38.36 | dacs | adil Mustafa Amin |
| 22:39.03 | orveldv | enouf: yep, I have it: "deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free" |
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| 22:39.25 | dacs | guy i give up, i have been working on this dvd for more than 24 hrs now |
| 22:39.25 | enouf | vtm: welp, with no net, i'd expect any Network File System to fail ;-) |
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| 22:39.38 | enouf | orveldv: etch? |
| 22:39.41 | dacs | how can i split some of it |
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| 22:40.00 | orveldv | enouf: maybe if I try update + upgrade tomorrow it will be ok? Yes, Etch |
| 22:40.13 | dacs | is there any channel for avidemux |
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| 22:41.21 | jair | hello everybody :) |
| 22:41.32 | twinkie_addict | hi |
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| 22:42.15 | enouf | orveldv: /me shrugs |
| 22:42.16 | jair | If I have a server running lenny 5.0 and I forgot my root password? do I need just the netinst cd and select the option "advance options" and select rescue mode? |
| 22:42.31 | orveldv | enouf: thanks anyway |
| 22:42.38 | enouf | jair: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 22:42.56 | jair | enouf, I am checking that |
| 22:44.07 | twinkie_addict | whats i good cli only im client that uses yahoo protocall ? |
| 22:44.32 | enouf | might like / look at bitlbee |
| 22:44.34 | azeem | twinkie_addict: maybe bitlbee is what you're looking for? |
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| 22:45.33 | twinkie_addict | souds like it |
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| 22:46.52 | yoshimit | Hi all! I have two machines (10.0.0.10 and 192.168.48.137) and need to make the first ping the second... besides setting ip_forwarding = 1, what I need to put in resolv.conf ?? thank you. |
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| 22:49.34 | jintxo | yoshimit, on which machine are you setting ip_forwarding to 1? |
| 22:49.48 | yoshimit | jintxo: I tried both... |
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| 22:49.57 | uioiouio | jintxo, synaptic, enouf: apparently there was an issue with my card |
| 22:50.01 | uioiouio | i removed the old one, put a new NIC in.. |
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| 22:50.07 | uioiouio | eth0 changed to eth1..but it works now |
| 22:50.07 | uioiouio | meh. |
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| 22:50.38 | jintxo | yoshimit, right ... ... they are plgged in to what? because with those ip addressess, they are going to need a router in between them |
| 22:50.47 | yoshimit | jintxo: just to explain: the 192.x has internet connection... 10.x no... I need to make 10.x "see" internet through 192.x |
| 22:51.05 | yoshimit | jintxo: they are virtual machines... |
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| 22:52.42 | brian17 | hello |
| 22:52.46 | yoshimit | jintxo: my teacher demonstrate something like that on class, but using xen... now I can reproduce (but I'm not using xen right now - just virtual machines) |
| 22:53.04 | brian17 | if i run a aptitude full-upgrade without changing my sources is it harmful? |
| 22:53.07 | jintxo | yoshimit, since they're virtual, cant you just change the 10.x one to belong to the same logical network as the 192.x ones? |
| 22:53.22 | Umren | there was a new open office upgrade on lenny stable today? |
| 22:53.26 | enouf | vtm: ahh |
| 22:53.39 | enouf | vtm: yes, see /msg dpkg z25 as i mentioned earlier |
| 22:53.41 | Umren | or my apt is just mad nuts |
| 22:54.03 | jair | enouf, thank you so much |
| 22:54.09 | enouf | vtm: (to make eth1 become eth0) |
| 22:54.11 | yoshimit | jintxo: yes... I can... this is just a matter of knowing how to do it (like an exercise)... I saw my teacher doing this, but cant reproduce right now... |
| 22:54.14 | enouf | jair: no problem |
| 22:54.35 | jair | enouf, that document explain exactly how to fix that so in reality there is not need of media or cd :) |
| 22:54.39 | yoshimit | jintxo: I remember something with resolv.conf, but... |
| 22:55.19 | jintxo | yoshimit, right, well if you have machines on different networks, yo need a router to rote packets between them ... ... resolv.conf has nothing to do, it has to do with resolving names to ip addresses |
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| 22:55.46 | yoshimit | jintxo: hmmm... |
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| 22:56.27 | orveldv | Umren: yes, it looks like an upgrade |
| 22:56.35 | Umren | ok thanks |
| 22:57.28 | jintxo | yoshimit, mabe you should ask your teacher? |
| 22:57.54 | yoshimit | jintxo: yes... I'll need to wait for next wed... :) |
| 22:57.56 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 22:57.57 | enouf | yoshimit: jintxo's correct, resolv.conf is concerned with nameservers (DNS) .. /msg dpkg resolv.conf |
| 22:58.03 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 22:58.04 | dacs | anyone here works with avidemux |
| 22:58.19 | Azrael_- | hi i want to use pcntl_exec in php with debian-lenny. can't find the package that would provide me the function. do you know how i can enable this? |
| 22:58.40 | brian17 | what is the command to run alsaconf in squeeze? |
| 22:58.47 | enouf | yoshimit: you might be looking for an iptables POST and PRE routing commands though .. also (hint) see /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 22:58.59 | enouf | erm .. DNAT or something .. |
| 22:59.13 | enouf | yeah, SNAT and DNAT,iirc |
| 22:59.28 | jintxo | yoshimit, the fct that they're virtual does not change that somebody acting as a router needs to move packts between them, since hey can't communicate directly, being in different networks. maybe the host machine can act as the router? |
| 22:59.29 | yoshimit | enouf: yes... thank you. I was just curious how he did it... I saw him ping another machine after setting ip_forwarding = 1 and changing somehing on resolv.conf... but... never mind... |
| 22:59.36 | enouf | brian17: it's gone .. when you find out what replaced it, let me know ;-) |
| 22:59.59 | dacs | !seen flam |
| 22:59.59 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'flam', dacs |
| 23:00.02 | dacs | !seen flami |
| 23:00.02 | dpkg | flami <n=josi@85.94.225.230> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1d 9h 7m 55s ago, saying: 'I dont know much about gnome cd burning software. just googlea little.'. |
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| 23:00.23 | enouf | yoshimit: you don't need .. well, if you "ping -c4 google.com" then yes, you're testing if your DNS is working |
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| 23:00.51 | enouf | yoshimit: but if you do "ping -c4 10.x.x.x" then you don't use any DNS |
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| 23:00.58 | dclarke | okay, what is th great trick to running a total global update on this machine? I am running Linux ganymede 2.6.26-1-486 #1 Sat Jan 10 17:46:23 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 23:01.16 | dclarke | aptitude update ? |
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| 23:01.36 | blime | anybody got gwibber working on debian lenny? |
| 23:01.36 | enouf | yoshimit: try ##networking perhaps as well as maybe even ##linux - see debian-administration.org for informative articles |
| 23:01.51 | yoshimit | enouf: ok. thank you. |
| 23:01.55 | yoshimit | jintxo: thank you. |
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| 23:03.22 | Azrael_- | any idea how to install the posix-extensions for php5? |
| 23:04.20 | dclarke | also .. wtf is this ?? aptitude search cdrecord --> p cdrecord - Dummy transition package for wodim |
| 23:04.36 | enouf | dclarke: /msg dpkg wodim ;-) |
| 23:04.55 | dclarke | you mean to tell me there is no cdrtools ?? |
| 23:05.09 | dclarke | geez .. I have to build them myself I guess |
| 23:05.12 | enouf | erm .. cdrkit / cdrtools |
| 23:05.40 | dclarke | aptitude search cdrkit --> p cdrkit-doc - Documentation for the cdrkit package suite |
| 23:05.45 | dclarke | nope, that ain't it |
| 23:05.46 | enouf | dclarke: see #cdrkit on oftc.net or something ... it's all over the place ;-) |
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| 23:05.57 | enouf | what are you looking for? |
| 23:06.10 | jintxo | there's also dvd+rw-tools, which I use for my backups |
| 23:06.10 | dclarke | http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html |
| 23:06.14 | enouf | no no no |
| 23:06.17 | enouf | !wodim |
| 23:06.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wodim is a DFSG compliant fork of <cdrecord>. See http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ about the release notice. |
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| 23:06.29 | dclarke | wtf is DFSG ? |
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| 23:06.36 | enouf | !dfsg |
| 23:06.36 | dpkg | dfsg is, like, the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 23:06.37 | dclarke | I don't want that ... I just want cdrecord |
| 23:06.42 | enouf | no no no |
| 23:06.45 | enouf | and no |
| 23:06.45 | funky | hello |
| 23:06.57 | dclarke | let me read http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ |
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| 23:07.07 | funky | since I've upgraded xserver to 1.6, I can't kill X through ctrl + alt + del |
| 23:07.18 | funky | any idea? |
| 23:07.27 | enouf | needs to run for a bit .. bbl .. maybe |
| 23:07.42 | jetscreamer | back, now backedup |
| 23:07.44 | dclarke | so where is Jorg's stuff ? |
| 23:07.59 | dclarke | This is a fork of the well-known cdrtools suite ??? |
| 23:08.08 | jetscreamer | it's ctrl alt bckspace, funky |
| 23:08.08 | dclarke | I don't want someones fork , I am looking for the real thing |
| 23:08.12 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 23:08.17 | funky | jetscreamer: by del I meant backspace |
| 23:08.22 | jetscreamer | fork you!!! j/k |
| 23:08.28 | orveldv | funky: wasn't that ctrl+alt+backspace ? |
| 23:08.32 | funky | yes |
| 23:08.48 | jetscreamer | funky: there is a setting in xorg.conf that can disable it.. but i ass-u-me you didn't put it in there |
| 23:08.56 | funky | no, it isn't there |
| 23:08.59 | dclarke | whoa .. this is some weird bitch slap session about "CDDL is incompatible with the GPL" ?? |
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| 23:09.28 | jetscreamer | ok here goes, sid upgrade! |
| 23:09.55 | dclarke | clearly .. something is way wrong here ... I'm going to have to format the debian machine and start over with a real OS |
| 23:09.58 | dclarke | good bye |
| 23:10.07 | Umren | day of upgrades? just downloaded stable upgrades) |
| 23:10.35 | Umren | by real os he means windows 7 ? |
| 23:10.49 | orveldv | probably mac. |
| 23:11.04 | adb | he left ... |
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| 23:11.24 | izua | what's the best console audio player? |
| 23:11.29 | jpinx | people seem to be shorter-tempered today than usual - it must be the long weekend holiday :-/ |
| 23:11.39 | orveldv | izua: moc :-) |
| 23:11.44 | izua | (ideally it should be compatible with lastfmsubmitd or submit to last.fm by itself and read flacs) |
| 23:11.47 | jintxo | sunday already, jpinx :-) |
| 23:11.54 | izua | moc? mkay. lemme check. |
| 23:11.58 | jetscreamer | let me guess, no kbuild |
| 23:12.08 | jpinx | izua: mplayer? |
| 23:12.44 | jpinx | jintxo: still Saturday evening here ;) |
| 23:12.57 | orveldv | izua: moc is much like amarok but for console, dunno about flac and last.fm |
| 23:13.09 | izua | well.. amarok does flac and last.fm |
| 23:13.13 | Milosz | xmms2 would support everything i guess, but it's rather obscure |
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| 23:13.40 | izua | hmm |
| 23:13.44 | izua | another question :) |
| 23:13.49 | urbanmonk | upgraded to lenny and now bash tab comletion does not work .. actually it works for commands but not files/folders .... it spews out some script with "compgen" or something when I try and tab complete a file/folder ... any ideas? |
| 23:13.52 | izua | i have my linux system on a 1.6GB hdd. you can imagine its seek speed |
| 23:14.06 | Milosz | heh |
| 23:14.09 | Milosz | :) |
| 23:14.17 | jpinx | izua: :) |
| 23:14.17 | izua | i recently added a bigger one. can i just cp the whole thing from one partition to the other? |
| 23:14.35 | izua | well, it's not really the speed i mind. it's the sound |
| 23:15.20 | jpinx | izua: you want to keep the OS on the small drive and put data on the new one? |
| 23:15.36 | izua | i already put data on the new drive |
| 23:15.43 | jpinx | or is this a whole moving-house routine? |
| 23:15.44 | jetscreamer | hmm it wants to remove a lot of xorg but i don't see where it's trying to put new ones in, gravity |
| 23:15.47 | izua | but i made a 10GB partition on it for the system, in case it has to be reinstalled |
| 23:15.58 | izua | but i think i want to move the system now over there |
| 23:15.58 | jetscreamer | good? not good? |
| 23:16.16 | jetscreamer | counts 10 and goes for it since he has backup |
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| 23:17.00 | izua | so i was thinking just copying the whole thing |
| 23:17.04 | jetscreamer | 305 upgraded, 102 newly installed, 72 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 23:17.07 | jetscreamer | weee |
| 23:17.13 | izua | maybe there's a special command to not copy /proc and /dev |
| 23:17.15 | jpinx | izua: there are ways to copy your system over, dd, scp, rsync, and you will have to run grub setup again to get the booting sequence sorted |
| 23:17.21 | orveldv | izua: I'd use smth like partimage, dunno what will happen to the hardlinks if you just copy |
| 23:17.26 | jetscreamer | i boot a live cd and cp -a |
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| 23:17.34 | jintxo | yeah cp -a |
| 23:17.35 | jetscreamer | the /proc and /dev aren't a problem then |
| 23:18.04 | izua | the old hdd will be removed |
| 23:18.08 | jpinx | dd keeps *everything* |
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| 23:18.34 | izua | so i'll just need to change my mtab to alter the /dev for the big hdd from hdb to hda |
| 23:18.45 | enouf | tar ... --one-filesystem option is yet another option |
| 23:18.47 | dacs | jetscreamer: where did u go man :) |
| 23:18.52 | dacs | i am still stuck |
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| 23:19.10 | enouf | izua: no, not mtab, /etc/fstab |
| 23:19.11 | jetscreamer | i booted a livecd and backed up my system, dacs, now i'm upgrading |
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| 23:19.35 | enouf | izua: or, place the disk phsically in the slot that the old disk occupied |
| 23:19.36 | izua | uuuh.. yeah. |
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| 23:19.43 | jetscreamer | dacs: i took you about as far as i can though, it should work out |
| 23:19.50 | jetscreamer | just cut around it |
| 23:19.52 | pstickne | anyone know if there is a kernel build for gcc 4.3.3? |
| 23:19.56 | jintxo | izua, /etc/fstab of th "new" system and set up the bootloader correctly too |
| 23:19.56 | izua | so a basic cp -a should be safe? |
| 23:20.08 | jetscreamer | from a livecd it should be izua |
| 23:20.18 | jetscreamer | not just with the system booted |
| 23:20.19 | dacs | anyone know how work with avidemux |
| 23:20.23 | izua | that's what i thought.. |
| 23:20.29 | enouf | or a ro mounted rootfs ... but |
| 23:20.41 | izua | wha about the mbr? |
| 23:20.43 | jetscreamer | it's the /proc & /dev that 'getcha' |
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| 23:20.49 | jetscreamer | oh dd the first 512 |
| 23:20.56 | jetscreamer | or 446 |
| 23:20.59 | jetscreamer | something like that |
| 23:21.12 | enouf | 1st 63 sectors, then reinstall grub |
| 23:21.14 | jintxo | I've done it running from a "live" system, just skipping /dev/ /sys/ and /proc/ and creting them as empty directoried on the target partition |
| 23:21.27 | izua | is there a problem if the new partition is bigger than the old one? |
| 23:21.31 | jintxo | or something like that. been a while. |
| 23:21.33 | jetscreamer | no |
| 23:21.40 | izua | man this thing is flexible :/ |
| 23:21.52 | izua | is a windows user |
| 23:21.54 | enouf | with dd, yes .. or if not too far off a fsck might fix it |
| 23:21.56 | izua | or.. was.. |
| 23:22.01 | izua | i haven't booted in windows ofr over a week |
| 23:22.16 | adb | only ... ? |
| 23:22.26 | enouf | FStools level copying? no, smaller/bigger partitions don't matter |
| 23:22.55 | izua | yeah, that's why i thought dd might not work if the parts are not == |
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| 23:23.39 | jetscreamer | dd doesn't care about existing partitons, if you're writing from iso... it will just write over whatever you have iirc |
| 23:23.47 | izua | yes |
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| 23:24.10 | izua | but if i write a 1.6GB partition to a 10GB partition, that partition will be still at 1.6.. i think, right? |
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| 23:24.20 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 23:24.25 | izua | that's why i wanted fs level copying |
| 23:24.36 | adb | izua: do a "normal" install on the new disk , and when all is done copy data from old -1.8 GB disk |
| 23:25.04 | adb | it's the easier way for you |
| 23:25.11 | jetscreamer | all you need is /home and some stuff from /etc and /boot/grub, or so |
| 23:25.29 | adb | and then *copy *all |
| 23:25.32 | izua | well.. not if i don't have a working cdrom :) |
| 23:25.51 | izua | hmm |
| 23:25.57 | izua | I think i'm going to try cp -a |
| 23:25.59 | adb | use debootstrap |
| 23:26.01 | jintxo | yay |
| 23:26.09 | izua | and if i disconnect the old hdd.. i should be fine, right? |
| 23:26.14 | izua | or wait, no, i still need to copy the mbrt |
| 23:26.17 | Gryfelhase | use a livecd /usbstick |
| 23:26.26 | izua | i don't have one.. |
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| 23:26.48 | izua | a bit offtopic: |
| 23:26.50 | jintxo | izua, grub-install will install grub to your mbr once you're ready or that |
| 23:27.00 | jintxo | s/or/for |
| 23:27.01 | izua | is moc ran with moc? cause i installed moc and bashing 'moc' says command not found |
| 23:27.21 | izua | yes..but i'd have to boot into that system somehow |
| 23:27.38 | orveldv | izua: yes, cp -a, then chroot, install MBR ... mocp is your command |
| 23:27.52 | izua | and if i remove the old hdd, with the mbr ok, i won't be able to boot in the 'new' system |
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| 23:28.34 | jetscreamer | just run the installer dude |
| 23:28.41 | jetscreamer | then cp whatever you need |
| 23:28.47 | izua | i can't run it |
| 23:28.50 | izua | this box doesn't have a cdrom |
| 23:28.51 | jintxo | izua, right, you can't boot into it until you have set up rub first :-) that's why you set it up before trying to boot from it with grub-install /dev/XXX or chroot into it and set it up from within the chroot |
| 23:28.54 | jetscreamer | no windows? |
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| 23:29.35 | izua | so wait.. if i set grub with the old hdd still running, wouldn't it result in the same config as now? |
| 23:29.56 | jetscreamer | dpkg goodbye-windows.com |
| 23:29.57 | dpkg | http://www.goodbye-windows.com/debian/ will install Debian side-by-side with an existing win32/64 system (see site for ongoing compatibility). It can be non-destructive if you follow directions, or if you want, just replace that evil non-free OS all together. Supaplex is the webmaster (for site issues) See site for all FAQ. on freenode #goodbye-windows.com |
| 23:30.07 | jetscreamer | run it from windows |
| 23:30.42 | izua | there is no windows. this isn't my main box |
| 23:30.45 | jetscreamer | o |
| 23:30.55 | jetscreamer | !debootstrap |
| 23:30.55 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips#s-chroot . It is key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <i-g>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 23:31.00 | izua | would windows fit along with debian on a 1.6 GB? :) |
| 23:31.07 | jetscreamer | if you wanted it to |
| 23:31.08 | urbanmonk | anyone here know how to get tomcat to listen on an external ip and not just localhost? |
| 23:32.09 | izua | oh. cr@p |
| 23:32.10 | jetscreamer | holy big huge upgrade batman! |
| 23:32.18 | izua | i'll need a swap too |
| 23:32.21 | jetscreamer | waits more |
| 23:32.26 | jetscreamer | you can put a swapfile |
| 23:32.30 | jetscreamer | instead of partiton |
| 23:32.33 | izua | and i forgot to make a swap partition |
| 23:32.34 | jetscreamer | partition |
| 23:32.39 | izua | i can? |
| 23:32.42 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 23:32.50 | izua | fstab? |
| 23:32.57 | jpinx | you don't need swap as a partition |
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| 23:34.05 | jetscreamer | izua: http://www.google.com/linux?q=swapfile+dd&restrict=linux |
| 23:34.18 | twinkie_1ddict | is burncd apart od cdrtools ? |
| 23:34.18 | jpinx | https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernate |
| 23:34.23 | jpinx | izua: ^^ |
| 23:35.04 | orveldv | izua: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=65536" will create a 64 Mb swap, feel free to enlarge :-) |
| 23:35.15 | jetscreamer | yeah there ya go |
| 23:35.24 | jpinx | wot he said |
| 23:35.27 | jetscreamer | i haven't made one in over a year so i forgot exactly |
| 23:36.01 | jpinx | then run mkswap and set swappiness |
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| 23:36.19 | jetscreamer | actually, you don't even need swap afaict, 'usually' (insert disclaimer here, ymmv and all that) |
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| 23:36.46 | jpinx | swap is not essential, but it's a help if your short on RAM |
| 23:36.47 | izua | this thing has 64Mb of ram |
| 23:36.55 | izua | i'm pretty sure i need swap |
| 23:37.00 | jpinx | depends on what you want to run |
| 23:37.01 | izua | MiB* |
| 23:37.02 | jetscreamer | ah well ok make a file |
| 23:37.02 | lorano | Hello, any idea? http://rafb.net/p/wUynCF71.html |
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| 23:37.13 | izua | rtorrent, irssi, sometimes a music player, sometimes a webserver |
| 23:37.17 | jetscreamer | who's the black private dick who's a sex machine to all the chicks |
| 23:37.19 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 23:37.21 | orveldv | lorano: context? |
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| 23:37.29 | lorano | orveldv context? |
| 23:37.35 | ryanCH | what do you think? -> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Baby+Tux?content=102650 |
| 23:37.41 | ryanCH | :) |
| 23:37.47 | baggend | Anyone else having problems with bash-completion after upgrading to bash 4 in experimental? Completion doesn't seem to be working, but I'm not seeing any errors. |
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| 23:38.11 | jpinx | izua: the nice thing about using a swapfile is that you can change the size without re-partitioning |
| 23:38.11 | jetscreamer | heh experimental and you want to ask if anybody's using it? |
| 23:38.49 | jpinx | anyone who asks if anyone is running experimental shouldn't be ;) |
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| 23:39.04 | lorano | http://rafb.net/p/wUynCF71.html <- any idea ? :) |
| 23:39.28 | jetscreamer | i burped and my right speaker quit working.. help! |
| 23:39.40 | jetscreamer | j/k about the help |
| 23:39.43 | jetscreamer | it did though |
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| 23:40.03 | izua | hmm.. doing cp / /mnt/hdb1 -a right now |
| 23:40.03 | jpinx | winds jetscreamer |
| 23:40.07 | baggend | jpinx: Not sure of the logic behind that statement. Those of us who do use experimental are the ones who are willing to help out with debugging and patches so that people using unstable/testing/stable can eventually use those packages. |
| 23:40.28 | jetscreamer | it will make some kind of loop in /proc |
| 23:40.36 | jetscreamer | or oso |
| 23:40.50 | adb | in dev/ too ? |
| 23:40.51 | jtgiri | hi guys i am trying to setup snmp , i modifed the snmpd.conf file and restarted snmpd, but when I do ps -aux it seems snmp is listening to local only /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:41.13 | mischief6 | anyone know where i can find a package list for 3.1_r0a ? |
| 23:41.14 | bolt | trying to start urxvtd gives me "unable to bind listening socket: Operation not permitted". what does that mean? |
| 23:41.39 | izua | yeah. it did |
| 23:41.47 | izua | i'll copy them from mc |
| 23:41.48 | pstickne | it might already be bound on, or you might be trying to bind to < 1024 when not root |
| 23:41.51 | pstickne | @ jtgiri |
| 23:41.57 | pstickne | err, @ bolt |
| 23:41.58 | izua | everything except /proc and /dev, right? |
| 23:42.05 | jetscreamer | izua: you can cp -a each individual dir at a time iirc |
| 23:42.11 | jetscreamer | yeah.. i think |
| 23:42.32 | baggend | jtgiri: You need to set the interface to listen on manually in /etc/defaults/snmpd |
| 23:42.36 | jpinx | jetscreamer: rsync does it better than cp |
| 23:42.36 | bolt | pstickne: even running sudo urxvtd gives the same message |
| 23:43.07 | pstickne | bolt: what kind of socket does it try to open? (I'm going to guess something else has already bound on it) |
| 23:43.29 | bolt | pstickne: no clue. i'm just trying to run urxvtd. no options set |
| 23:43.38 | pstickne | bolt: netstat -nl should list things already there |
| 23:43.54 | bolt | pstickne: that leaves what it's trying to do though |
| 23:44.10 | jtgiri | baggend: com2sec network 71.202.255.0/24 public |
| 23:44.12 | jtgiri | i did |
| 23:44.46 | pstickne | bolt: ahh, it's just a unix-socket |
| 23:44.59 | pstickne | http://linux.die.net/man/1/urxvtd |
| 23:45.00 | baggend | jtgiri: No, that's your snmpd.conf file. You need to edit /etc/defaults/snmpd. Different configuration file. |
| 23:45.00 | pingouin | except pan, any advices for a good news reader ? thanks |
| 23:45.09 | bolt | pstickne: http://pastebin.com/f7587942b |
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| 23:45.14 | reisio | pingouin: what DE? |
| 23:45.31 | pingouin | reisio: sorry ? |
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| 23:45.47 | bolt | pstickne: ah. need that variable. swell :D |
| 23:45.57 | reisio | pingouin: what desktop environment, GNOME, KDE, etc. |
| 23:45.58 | pstickne | holy crap |
| 23:46.04 | pstickne | wtf is aptitude doing |
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| 23:46.14 | bolt | pstickne: er. what can that socket be? |
| 23:46.15 | pstickne | removing crong |
| 23:46.16 | pstickne | wtf |
| 23:46.16 | pingouin | reisio: just run X and...ion3 |
| 23:46.17 | pstickne | wtf |
| 23:46.24 | pstickne | fuck |
| 23:46.29 | jtgiri | baggend: thanks it worked |
| 23:46.30 | reisio | pingouin: k, then you want something light and GTK+y |
| 23:46.38 | pstickne | this is going to get bad |
| 23:46.41 | Polarina | pstickne: Happens when you mix repositories. |
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| 23:46.48 | orveldv | pingouin: claws-mail? |
| 23:46.52 | reisio | pingouin: sylpheed, maybe |
| 23:47.05 | pstickne | yeah, I think I'm hosed :) |
| 23:47.09 | pingouin | i'll check the both, thanks orveldv , reisio |
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| 23:47.37 | reisio | what's the process to get an unstable linux-image package installed? |
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| 23:48.09 | pstickne | :( :( |
| 23:48.09 | pstickne | damn |
| 23:48.12 | izua | hmm.. still copying.. |
| 23:48.18 | izua | forgot about /mnt :) |
| 23:48.47 | pstickne | how can I force-purge the dpkg stack? |
| 23:48.52 | Polarina | pstickne: All I did was reinstall and it fixed itself. |
| 23:48.54 | pstickne | (I rather violently killed synaptic :-) |
| 23:49.02 | pstickne | (I have no source media :-/) |
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| 23:49.15 | Polarina | pstickne: What? Did you do Alt + SysRq + I? |
| 23:49.32 | pstickne | just a kill :-) |
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| 23:49.36 | Polarina | Ah. |
| 23:49.52 | pstickne | I think I have lost about half my programs. |
| 23:50.09 | Polarina | pstickne: You can still backup. |
| 23:50.27 | pstickne | menu, xulrunner, doc-base python-support and xfce4-mcs-manager are in a case of omg-can't-finish purging -- I'd like to nuke these entries |
| 23:50.34 | pstickne | (let them stay as half-installed as they are) |
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| 23:50.52 | pstickne | Polarina: data is fine, but I'm afraid I won't be able to reboot :( |
| 23:50.53 | orveldv | pstickne: so you're using synaptic as a frontend for aptitude and not apt-get? |
| 23:51.06 | Polarina | pstickne: Just plug the cable. |
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| 23:51.57 | Polarina | orveldv: aptitude is recommended over apt-get |
| 23:51.57 | orveldv | Polarina: I know, but he's talking about synaptic |
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| 23:52.09 | pstickne | Polarina: right now I'm mooching of a neighbors wifi because the stupid comcast is using a proxy telling me how my OS is not supported to "complete the installation process" and I'm was just trying to install gcc 4.1 so I could run vmware so that I could flash my phone (unlock) to call them :( |
| 23:52.30 | pstickne | and somehow I let syntaptic get wild and decide to remove everything |
| 23:52.46 | pstickne | okay, so how to purge this info... |
| 23:53.04 | pstickne | (my man-pages for dpkg are gone :-/) |
| 23:53.17 | baggend | pstickne: What are you trying to do? Just change the state of packages so that they're no longer set to purge? |
| 23:53.50 | pstickne | baggend: I would like to [re]install the packaged removed, but I can't because some are half-purged :( |
| 23:54.25 | pstickne | dpkg: error processing xfce4-mcs-manager (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2, etc |
| 23:54.25 | dpkg | pstickne: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 23:54.59 | orveldv | pstickne: next time synaptic asks you smth before doing it... read it? |
| 23:55.06 | baggend | pstickne: Just force-install the ones you want to have installed. dpkg --force-all packagename. |
| 23:55.10 | pstickne | orveldv: :( |
| 23:55.18 | baggend | You can find the original debs in /var/cache/apt/archive |
| 23:55.37 | izua | pstickne: can't you use a public payphone? |
| 23:55.38 | baggend | Err, dpkg -i --force-all packagename |
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| 23:56.05 | Gryfelhase | join #economy |
| 23:56.13 | Gryfelhase | grr... misstype... |
| 23:56.34 | orveldv | what's #economy? |
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| 23:56.47 | Gryfelhase | was a misstype |
| 23:56.51 | zerr | hello, i seem to have a password change problem. I just got myself a vps running debian squeeze\sid, and whenever i try to change a password, i directly get passwd updated successfully without actually me typing a new password. |
| 23:56.57 | Gryfelhase | forgot / |
| 23:57.08 | pstickne | izua: sure, 2 minutes of driving down the road :p |
| 23:57.09 | Ryushin | Does anyone know of a file level IDS system that works with both Linux (Debian hopefully) and Windows, that is not Tripwire? |
| 23:57.12 | bolt | what's a valid value to set for $RXVT_SOCKET? it's supposed to be a unix domain socket, which i've never dealt directly with |
| 23:58.01 | pstickne | bolt: it should create it for you, the default should be fine, but make sure your ~ supports said operation |
| 23:58.10 | pstickne | (e.g. not on a SMB mount) |
| 23:58.28 | bolt | pstickne: ah. it's on a sshfs mount, actually |
| 23:58.30 | pstickne | bolt: or ensure that said file doesn't already exist (using the default unset setting) |
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| 23:59.01 | bolt | guess i'll have to somehow direct it somewhere else, then |
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| 23:59.08 | pstickne | bolt: /tmp :) |
| 23:59.22 | bolt | so I set the $RXVT_SOCKET to /tmp/something ? |
| 23:59.28 | bolt | tries... |
| 23:59.28 | pstickne | sure :p |
