IRC log for #debian on 20090412

00:00.14zerrNo ideas?
00:00.52baggendzerr: Your VPS provider might be using something other than simple passwd/shadow authentication.
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00:01.22izuaare there any files in /sys?
00:01.25izuaor just virtual stuff?
00:01.58izuapstickne: ah, well, in that case.. your whole sequence makes sense
00:02.06orveldvyou can exclude /sys iirc
00:02.32zerrbaggend, still thats weird, dont you think? i suspected the passwd file not being compiled, but it is. There dont seem to be any kind of restrictions, so no idea.
00:03.09baggendzerr: Try creating a new user, and then changing that user's password.
00:03.11izuait's got quite a file structure
00:03.16izuathat's why i'm asking
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00:03.53zerrbaggend, already tried it, i get the same thing. The "password updated successfully" right after i type passwd user
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00:05.22pstickne*whew*
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00:05.34boltpstickne: yay! that works perfectly. thanks for the help :D
00:05.38psticknebolt:  sweet :)
00:06.04psticknebolt:  there is also screen, not sure if it's the same thing, but I use it over ssh all the time
00:06.04pyrohotdogMy harddrive is encrypted, and I just changed my usplash theme and now I don't get a chance to put my password in to boot...ideas?
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00:07.03izuaok.
00:07.24boltpstickne: nope. i use that too. this is just a backend for rxvt, which makes the terminal emulator start faster
00:07.29izuai copied the whole system (drop /dev, /proc and /sys) to /mnt/hdb1.
00:07.40izuai created the missing directories (dev proc sys mnt)
00:07.44baggendzerr: Hmm, could be a pam issue I suppose. Unfortunately, apart from knowing that PAM is involved, I know virtually nothing about it so I can't be of any additional help I'm afraid.
00:07.53boltpstickne: now it's at the blink of an eye instead of the blink of both eyes... not sure what the point is, but it's cool anyway
00:07.53pstickneoh, geeze, I am missing /bin/bash :p
00:08.03izuanow how do i install grub to the other hdd?
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00:08.20zerrbaggend, that makes sence. it's okay, i'll look over google
00:08.21zerrthanks
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00:08.24pstickneizua:  cool :) [I normally have long-term sessions so]
00:08.38izuai only see one hdd in device.map for grub
00:08.40Polarinapstickne: Congratulations. I felt the same when I accidentally did "rm -rf /" on a fresh Gentoo installation.
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00:09.03baggendizua: grub-install /dev/<whatever>
00:09.26izuajetscream, orveldv, jintxo, jpinx?
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00:09.28izuaanyone left? ^^
00:09.29psticknePolarina:  somehow base-files was taken out O.o
00:09.53orveldvizua: yeah, but I'm sort of drunk atm
00:10.04izuaah :P
00:10.12baggendPolarina: I accidentally did "rm -rf /usr/bin" once. :) Actually managed to restore everything before needing to reboot so it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
00:10.37izuabaggend: well, here's my short story. i copied / (dev/hda1) to /mnt/hdb2. I want to move my whole linux system to hdb2
00:10.51izuawhich will become hdb1 because i'll remove the old hdd.
00:10.52Polarinaizua: Ouch.
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00:11.00izuaso grub-install /dev/hdb should work?
00:11.13JPThdb2 cannot become hdb1...
00:11.16JPTbut hda2
00:11.21izuauuh right
00:11.25JPT:)
00:11.26izuahda, that's what i ment
00:11.35baggendizua: Yup. Just make sure you copied over /boot, run grub-install, and you should be all set.
00:11.39JPTokay... just make sure you're not planning on something impossible ;)
00:11.51izuathere's everything copied, except /sys /proc and /dev
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00:11.58baggend(grub-install copies the bootloader to the MBR on the drive, which will be important once you physically remove the current hda)
00:12.19ssamoon_hey there.. i need to do some 32 bit development on a 64 bit machine for an operating systems class. adding -m32 flag to gcc isn't working well enough. i understand that i can create a 32 bit userland using chroot.. been googling around a bit and haven't found a guide on how to do this. can someone give me some direction on this?
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00:13.22izuagrub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/hdb.  Check your device.map.
00:13.27baggendssamoon_: there are lots of howto's out there for creating a 32-bit chroot in a 64-bit system. I'd say you haven't googled enough. :)
00:13.31baggendssamoon_: Try: http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html
00:13.36izuathere's only /dev/hda there (the old hdd). should i add the new hdd manually?
00:13.40ssamoon_thanks, i just keep finding people who are breaking their computers
00:13.41Polarinassamoon_: Install 32-bit binaries in a directory and chroot to it.
00:14.02baggendizua: grub-install --recheck /dev/hdb
00:14.04jetscreamerdacs: http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
00:14.13yoshimitguys, someone can give me a hand to install xen on debian lenny ?
00:14.26jetscreamerhttp://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Cutting_MPEG_files
00:14.47baggendyoshimit: How far have you gotten?
00:15.06izuaooook
00:15.08izuaso it succeded
00:15.24izuaideally, if i remove the old hdd and reboot there should be no difference?
00:15.32yoshimitbaggend: I tried once, but when I tried to boot I got a restart... so I removed and trying to install again...
00:15.36yoshimitbaggend: in fact...
00:15.44yoshimitbaggend: I just make sure which packages I need to install...
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00:15.53pyrohotdogMy harddrive is encrypted, and I just changed my usplash theme and now I don't get a chance to put my password in to boot...ideas?
00:16.13yoshimitbaggend: I'm installing xen-tools and xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686
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00:16.29yoshimitbaggend: do you know if I need something more ?
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00:16.52orveldvizua: yes, if your menu.lst is the same
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00:17.51izuamkay..
00:17.56izuagonna try it right now
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00:20.17baggendyoshimit: I think xen-linux-system is a metapackage which pulls in additional packages. Assuming that it pulls in an appropriate kernel and hypervisor that should be all you need.
00:20.31baggend(you don't really *need* xen-tools, but it does make thigs a lot easier)
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00:21.25kriebelI've not found any good use for xen-tools
00:21.28yoshimitbaggend: I though it too... but when I boot using Xen, the boot starts but after some seconds I got a restart... dont know why... I'm using debian lenny on VMWare to test xen... any though ?
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00:21.29kriebelI guess I should try harder
00:22.12kriebelyoshimit: are you using all the packaged Xen?
00:22.22kriebelsounds like your hypervisor and kernel don't match
00:22.33yoshimithmmm...
00:22.53yoshimitkriebel: I'll check... one moment, plz
00:23.21kriebelLenny has Xen packaged, thanks to stealing it from Suse or something
00:23.34kriebelno more using 2.6.18
00:23.35baggendyoshimit: Whoa, wait a second. You're running Debian inside VMware and trying to run Xen on that?!
00:23.41baggendThat's definitely not going to work right.
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00:23.51kriebelit... might
00:23.59kriebelbut honestly, build a linux box
00:24.00yoshimitbaggend: I asked before on ##xen and got answer that should work
00:24.29yoshimitI just want to test a debian install using xen and test some pings and dns cache...
00:24.34kriebelVMware is full software virt, not just a hypervisor like Xen
00:25.05baggendIf it works *at all* it will work poorly. Xen assumes that it has direct access to hardware. Regardless of whether or not it works, you most definitely *should not* do that.
00:25.59yoshimitbaggend: ok. I will try on my ubuntu box... thank you guys.
00:26.01baggendyoshimit: If you need a hypervisor solution, build a Linux box and run Xen on it. If you just need virtual machines to work on, use VMware. But don't mix and match them like that.
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00:26.45yoshimitbaggend: yes.. I had a though about that, but after asking on ##xen and got a "green light"...
00:27.13yoshimitI'll give up... I'll try on linux box... thank you.
00:27.44ssamoon_how do i create "a kernel specifically crafted to work as the Domain 0" in order to use Xen on my machine? my machine is capable of running it i just never thought to
00:28.03baggendyoshimit: Just saw your message on ##xen. Not sure what Kevin was thinking but I think he's crazy. :) Good luck and come back if you need more help.
00:28.21kriebelssamoon_: find the -xen version of the same kernel you're runningn now, in apt
00:28.50ssamoon_guess i'll go axk #xen nevermind sory
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00:29.28kriebelumm... I'll do what I can so help you
00:29.53kriebelI think you're confused
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00:30.36ssamoon_me? yes i've never used Xen. but i was going to dual boot my machine with a 32 bit OS or some garbage for some development, but now i am thinking this might be better
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00:30.57baggendssamoon_: You need at least 2 parts to get Xen working. One is a xen-enabled kernel. Debian packages these with a -xen version of akernel (as kriebel mentioned).
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00:31.26ssamoon_okay, apt-getting that right now
00:31.28baggendssamoon_: The other part you will need is a xen hypervisor, which is available as one of the xen-hypervisor packages.
00:32.20baggendYou'll also probably want to install xen-tools to make setting up a new domU (that's the name for a Xen "guest") easier.
00:32.54ssamoon_doh.. packages say they are broken..
00:33.07kriebelin... Lenny?
00:33.11ssamoon_nope..
00:33.14ssamoon_sid
00:33.28kriebelwell... then you get what you ask for
00:33.32ssamoon_apparently
00:34.34kriebelif you want a good dev box, install Lenny, and leave lots of room in an LV for Xen partitions
00:35.32kriebelit's very hard to impossible to get a domU to use a graphics card, directly
00:35.51kriebelfyi
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00:36.36ssamoon_yeah, i'll do that on my desktop. this is my laptop and there's a fair amount of reasons why i want to be running bleeding edge for better laptop hw support. you mean in order to use acceleration and such? my work is purely text-based at the moment
00:36.57kriebelok
00:37.08ssamoon_so that would be less of an issue with Xen, right?
00:37.41kriebelwhat?
00:38.36ssamoon_dealing with server OSs with xen, no X
00:39.01kriebelyeah
00:39.04kriebelit's an option
00:39.15kriebelXen has a pretty heavy IO pentalty
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00:41.07ssamoon_and you're saying i should make a logical partition for Xen to play with?
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00:41.58topgun21Is there a way to runn internet explorer in linux
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00:42.20izuauuuh.. yeah.
00:42.27izuaanyone still here?
00:42.35izuai moved the new hdd as hda
00:42.42izua(shows up in bios as first harddisk, same position as the old one)
00:42.45ssamoon_topgun21: i think the newest version you can get ported is 6
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00:42.52izuaand when it boots i get "GRUB hard disk error"
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00:43.46jetscreamerok now i'm going to reboot and see what happens with this upgrade
00:45.05orveldvizua: how did you installed grub, by chrooting?
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00:46.13izuano, i just wrote "grub-install /dev/hdb"
00:46.15jetxgd maintainer bastards!!!
00:46.26jetxgravity: where is X
00:46.43jetxand whose the console font jerkoff
00:46.46jetxwho's
00:46.52simonrvncheck your log dude
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00:46.59jetx:)
00:47.08jetxi have a backup i don't caaaare :)
00:47.16jetxbut it would be nice to get it going
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00:47.23jetxso where is X
00:47.29simonrvni could've sworn i had ati and friends x drivers installed... then i find out they're uninstalled.
00:47.35topgun21are there any alternatives to customcolpiling firefox, in order to get the comcast channel guide
00:47.57kriebelssamoon_: Xen can use LVM LVs as disk partitions in the VM, among other methods.  I'm my preferred method
00:48.04simonrvni was mildly surprised
00:48.07jetxoh what's the 'i get spam in my console' factoid
00:48.20jetxk something...
00:48.24simonrvn!kernel printk
00:48.33jetx!printk
00:48.33dpkgi heard printk is see docs for sysctl and adjust /etc/sysctl.conf kernel.printk (3 4 1 7 or so). You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. See linux/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt or man 5 proc /printk for meaning of the numbers (console_loglevel, default_message_loglevel, minimum_console_level, default_console_loglevel)
00:48.39simonrvn!printk console
00:48.39dpkgfrom memory, printk console is see docs for sysctl and set kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7 or so. You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. If you want to know what those numbers mean, see the file Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt in your kernel sources.
00:48.41jetxyeah that
00:48.41kriebelgoes away
00:48.42jetxthanks
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00:49.14izuaok
00:49.27izuaso i should chroot to the location where i copied that, and then do grub-install ?
00:49.53jetxyou have to mount /proc and /dev with --bind or something like that first, izua
00:50.09jetxor so
00:50.16jetxafter the chroot
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00:50.31jetxiirc
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00:50.36izuaerr
00:50.38jetxthe bot has a factoid
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00:50.50izuado you happen to remember it?
00:50.53izua^^
00:50.57jetxno been too long
00:51.09jetxsorry
00:51.23izuamkay
00:51.27izuahow do I un-chroot?
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00:51.35izuai chrooted and there's nothing in dev
00:51.42izuaobviously ._.
00:52.31jetxexit iirc
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00:53.03simonrvnchroot /foo; then mount /proc ; /dev is not needed normally, though i recommend running /etc/init.d/devkernsubfs.sh start (or whatever that script is called)
00:54.21jpinxanyone able to point out how I can force my router to drop all incoming from the public side, except http on a port I choose? I've got portfowarding setup, but I can't stop the router accepting port80 http requests:(
00:54.30jetxhey sysctl.conf even has an 'uncomment this to stop console spam' well it says low level messages...
00:54.43jetxbut how do i get it totake affect
00:54.56jetxsource sysctl.conf or something?
00:55.02simonrvnsysctl -p
00:55.20jetxthanks
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00:55.37jetxdoing ctrl+l was getting old
00:55.44izuauuum
00:55.49izuaso what should i look for?
00:55.51topgun21Is there a way to runn internet explorer in linux
00:56.12jetxtopgun21: i hear it works under wine
00:56.14jamontopgun21: google, should be first result
00:56.15spook0Ugh.
00:56.16izuaso what i want to do is run grub-install from the directory where my new system is
00:56.17jetx#winehq
00:56.21simonrvnyes.
00:56.30izuabut i need to mount the 'real' /dev to the copied dev before chrooting?
00:56.47spook0I'm using debian lenny and can't seem to talk it into 1280x1024 in x :/
00:56.50jetxjust do whatever simonrvn said, blindly
00:56.59jetx:)
00:57.11jetxhey no more console spam \o/
00:57.38jetxafk-ish
00:57.49jamonjetx: makes screen infintely more nice to use :)
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00:59.02jetx!lart gravity for losing X
00:59.02dpkgwhacks gravity with a giant beaver's tail for losing X
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00:59.52spook0I don't get this; my monitor supports 1280x1024 @60hz, but xrandr doesn't seem to believe me on this other system.
01:00.04orveldvspook0: the answer that you usually get in here is that you should manually edit your xorg.conf
01:00.23spook0orveldv: fun.
01:00.29pingouinspook0: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log , than look for something like the value of your screen, than check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the "1280x1024" mode in it
01:00.33orveldvspook0: not really
01:00.44jetxspook0: i get the same, what i do is add a vid line.. what he said
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01:00.50spook0yeah
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01:01.01spook0i notice that the xorg.conf in lenny seems pretty generic
01:01.03pingouinthe new xorg is not detect everything well i guess
01:01.14simonrvntopgun21: aptitude install wine; get ies4linux; run that; run ie6 from your user's account. do whatever monstrosity you were planning with ie. ;p
01:01.28spook0installing X in etch actually asked me what my thing supported
01:01.29pingouin:)
01:01.45pingouinspook0: etch is not lenny
01:01.51spook0i noticed that
01:01.55jetxspeaking of X ... anybody know where it went?
01:02.00pingouinobviously ;)
01:02.08jetxin sid
01:02.22kriebelwhat are you actually looking for?
01:02.27jetxme? X
01:02.32kriebelsigh
01:02.33jetxthe file/program
01:02.34pingouinp0rn ? ;)
01:02.36simonrvnjetx: Check Your Log.
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01:02.38pingouinah sorry
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01:02.41kriebel/usr/X11/bin ?
01:02.48jetxwhich.. Xorg.0.log>?
01:02.54jetxno kriebel it's not there
01:03.02jetxaccording to startx and gdm
01:03.05jetxand ls
01:03.05ssamoon_roughly-approximately-ballpark of how long it generally takes testing to catch up to sid?
01:03.14kriebeldo you have xserver-xorg installed?
01:03.24simonrvnssamoon_: with no rc bugs, 10 days.
01:03.27jetxi did.. i just did an update
01:03.31ssamoon_simonrvn: thanks
01:03.31jetxupgrade
01:03.35aoeui am mirroring a debian install from /dev/hda1 to /dev/sda1. how do i install grub onto /dev/sda1, and still have it be bootable when its device name changes to /dev/hda1 when its in a computer?
01:03.36jetxchecks log
01:03.38simonrvnjetx: yes that one
01:04.38izuaaoeu that's exactly what i'm doing
01:04.47izuaand i'm stuck at the same step :)
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01:05.15jetxonly EE is failed to load module "type 1"
01:05.31kriebelthere's plenty of docs online.  it might help to have the install disk handy and boot a revocery console
01:05.46jetxall the borks say X not found t
01:06.10jetxaoeu: fstab and menu.lst ....
01:06.28kriebeljetx: aptitude install xserver-xorg
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01:06.44orveldvwell, the new omg-auto X configuration fails miserably on my machines, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" was... good days
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01:08.17izua!help
01:08.26cafuegoNice easter present. Dead HDD with the local PC shop shut.
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01:08.51n3klcafuego: you could always throw it through their window
01:08.59n3klI hear they make great bricks
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01:09.05cafuegoOh no, not DOA, just need a new one.
01:09.21cafuegoBox won't even POST with this one connected
01:09.24jetxok that's weird
01:09.29aoeuwhere do i get debian stable install floppies?
01:09.40jetxit refused to upgrade xorg the package
01:09.50jetxthere are none aoeu afaik
01:09.59jetxeven though i had it installed
01:10.03lilkidI just restarted my debian etch box, and now it just gets stuck on grub loading stage 1.5, about 5 mins later it then says the partition location, put simply booting up is taking about 1000 times longer than it should then eventually fails. help! i've done fsck from a knoppix live cd.. has a few errors.. there anything else i can do?
01:10.17jetxleft lots of xorg stuff, but didn't do some others...
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01:10.47aoeujetx, what a bitch
01:10.53jetxit removed all the xorg vid drivers, and didn't update them.. now they're being reinstalled
01:10.59jetxuse a usbthing
01:11.10aoeudont got it with me right now
01:11.22aoeucan i use a usb hdd?
01:11.42jetxsure
01:11.47jetxdocs on debian.org
01:11.54jetxyou can use windows too if you have it
01:11.55cafuegoof a tftp server
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01:12.49jetxok ok now i have X again it seems
01:13.37jetxnow that i reinstalled previously installed packages that were removed by the upgrade
01:13.43jetxgah
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01:14.15jetxso when ppl say 'can't find X' tell them aptitude install xorg
01:14.26jetxi saw them saying it earlier
01:14.42jetxbrb
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01:19.57sepult_what has io-apic has to do with buffering and video ?
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01:27.28ma3xsorry to ask this on debian but my laptop thinkpad t400 cpu freaks me out, it makes that buzzy sound all the time. is that normal or some kind of defect? i hear the high frequency sound all the time so bad
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01:28.48amphima3x: check thinkwiki.org perhaps
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01:29.15amphima3x: and/or ask in #ibmthinkpad
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01:29.25topgun21ma3x: Tit sound like you might need to gwet the cpu fan on yor laptop replaced, or have a local repair shope throughly disasumbol it and clean every possible surface.
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01:30.17ma3xit pisses me off, stupid thinkpad i'd never like to have another one
01:30.30jetscreameri had a thinkpad, it's still good
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01:30.42marioxcci'm bored
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01:30.57marioxcc¡i'm bored!
01:31.10jpinxma3x: my toshiba laptop started making noises so I took it apart and cleaned it
01:31.19jetscreameris it the electical whine you hear, like a tv or oldschool burglar alarm, the really high pitched, or is it like a fan like he's talking about
01:31.20nb9no9nr9is the stable branch of debian still using kde 3.x ?
01:31.25jpinxma3x: it works fine now
01:31.31jetscreamerthe whine not everybody hears
01:31.39topgun21I have a lenovo 3000 n500 would it be at all possible to run debian on this laptop
01:31.41jpinxjudd: versions kde
01:31.42juddjpinx: kde -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 squeeze: 5:48
01:31.48marioxcci'm bored
01:32.01ma3xjpinx: it's the cpu, it doesn't need any cleaning. when i change Hz, it changes the pitch higher/lower
01:32.06jpinxtopgun21: probably, but try it and see;)
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01:32.13jetscreamerahh
01:32.18jetscreameryeah
01:32.19martin54321how can I change the color of the "user@mycomputer:" in my gnome-terminal window? I know how to change the text I type in the terminal window, but how to change the color of "user@mycomputer:"?
01:32.23jpinxma3x: I know it's the cpu - clean it ;)
01:32.30jackyylli'm having some trouble with a debian box
01:32.38jackyylli'm trying to apt-get install, but i get a lock error
01:32.40nb9no9nr9reason i ask is because the unstable based one i usually use went to kde 4 and all my bluetooth settings croaked--and as i only can get online thru my bluetooth phone thats a real drag
01:32.44jackyyllinfinity:/# apt-get -f install ncurses
01:32.44jackyyllE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (5 Input/output error)
01:32.44jackyyllE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
01:32.52jackyyllany ideas? :/
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01:33.04ma3xjpinx: but it's a brand new laptop
01:33.08nb9no9nr9you are either using as mormal user or have another packager open
01:33.11jpinxjackyyll:  are you root?
01:33.16jetscreamerhe has a #
01:33.20nb9no9nr9*normal
01:33.22jetscreamerso it would seem he's root
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01:33.32jackyyllyeah im root
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01:33.55virtuali am trying to install debian net-install on a virtual pc but when it tries to load the kernel to begin installing it gives an error and resets
01:33.56jpinxjackyyll: something else is using apt-get - look at your processes
01:33.57virtualany idea why ?
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01:33.58jetscreamerchecks gnome-session
01:34.46SQlvpapirhmm was there ever a gnome-backgrounds-extras or am I going insane?
01:35.12ponkyI'm trying to make .deb file from my kernel with make-kpkg, getting this : http://pastebin.com/m4c241c72
01:35.19sepult_ok call the doctors
01:35.24sepult_he is mad
01:35.29sepult_definetely
01:35.31sepult_lol
01:35.35jetscreamersame thing.. it removed gnome-session, did not upgrade it, even though it was installed.. and now it's available for installation
01:35.43jetscreamerwtf
01:35.58SQlvpapirinstall zlibs dev or sth
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01:36.57jetscreamerand what's up with the gnome icons in iceweasel... and .. and...
01:37.07jetscreameranyway
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01:37.26SQlvpapirponky: see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=36525
01:37.26Sertsehello
01:37.54ponkySQlvpapir: thanks
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01:38.02Sertsemy update alternative isn't working. got a update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/share/man/pl.UTF-8/man1/ex.1.gz.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/ex.pl.UTF-8.1.gz: No such file or directory
01:38.02Sertse<PROTECTED>
01:38.12lilkidmartin54321: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/
01:38.13SQlvpapirponky: a pleasure to be able to help
01:39.23izuahey. i'm trying to move my debian from one hdd to another
01:39.31izuai copied / to /mnt/hdb1
01:39.57izuathen, i ran grub-install /dev/hdb and i rebooted. when grub was supposed to appear i got "GRUB hard disk error" and it stayed like that.
01:40.37nb9no9nr9ok--so in review--if i update etch here to lenny then im going to be using kde 4.x or higher eh?
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01:41.06KCI installed Lenny on a notebook, over the wireless card, which worked fine, but now that its installed the wireless card isn't recognized, doesn't even show up in lspci
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01:41.27nb9no9nr9what card is it?
01:41.31izua!help chroot
01:41.55izua!help recovery
01:42.05izua!help copy
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01:42.48ponkySQlvpapir: i think it was zlib1g-dev i was missing
01:42.49ponky:)
01:42.52simonrvnizua: yes, ok. so what are you looking for now?
01:43.11simonrvnizua: next time /msg the bot instead of spamming !foo requests here
01:43.16KCintel 3945
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01:43.30simonrvnizua: man 8 chroot
01:43.45izuabooting into the new system without getting the grub error
01:43.46izuayes, i read that
01:43.55izuabut after i chroot to the dir i copied my system to
01:43.58KCdmesg shows the card as working
01:43.58izuathere's nothing in /dev
01:44.10nb9no9nr9KC:  i have that thing on one of my other puters--and the nix driver for it is one HUGE pain in the butt
01:45.03nb9no9nr9you havent tried ndiswrapper to get it working too have you?
01:45.19KCno...
01:45.19nb9no9nr9cuz if you have that may be the prob
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01:45.32KCits a nix driver
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01:45.41jetscreamergnome just wants evolution so bad... too bad, so sad
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01:46.06nb9no9nr9try this--whatever that module name is for that card--ipx3945 or whatever it is--rmmod it then modprobe it
01:46.24nb9no9nr9that would get mine working
01:46.27nb9no9nr9sometimes
01:46.54izuawhat do i ask the bot to tell me the instructions for mounting/chrooting another system?
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01:47.11nb9no9nr9i blacklisted the nix driver and am just using ndiswrapper
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01:47.26virtuali am trying to install debian net-install on a virtual pc but when it tries to load the kernel to begin installing it gives an error and resets, anybody tried this?
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01:48.11nb9no9nr9broadcom bcm43xx is another bundle of joy to try and get (and keep) working with the nix driver too
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01:49.53izuauuuh..
01:50.04izuais there perhaps an online resource for copying a linux system and fixing grub?
01:50.11izuai'm not having a lot of luck finding anything with lynx
01:50.36KCnb9no9nr9 : the driver module or the firmware?
01:52.14nb9no9nr9you only modprobe the module KC
01:52.20KCok
01:52.43KCI think thats whats missing though, unless its part of the base kernel now?
01:52.48nb9no9nr9although yeah--you have to have the firmware image where its supposed to be or it wont work
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01:52.58nb9no9nr9nope proprietary
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01:53.47KCthe driver is open source, its the firmware thats proprietary on the card
01:53.47nb9no9nr9you just hate messing with ndiswrapper KC?
01:54.15KCwhy the fuck would I use ndis?  Its a linux specific driver
01:54.41nb9no9nr9so that it works w/o you having to tinker all the time
01:54.54KCI never had to tinked in etch
01:55.10KCinstall the firmare, driver and daemon, it worked flawlessly
01:55.25nb9no9nr9great
01:55.31KCbut the daemon and driver arebn't in the repo anymore
01:55.34nb9no9nr9its working then
01:55.45KCso I can't install them
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01:56.52Akuwi am trying to use a webpage with jre plugins
01:56.57Akuwbut can't do it
01:57.22Akuwi installed jre from sun and   used " ln -s /opt/jre/jre1.6.0_13/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
01:57.23Akuw"
01:57.30Akuwwhat happen?
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01:59.21nb9no9nr9has anyone here got supreme commander to work in wine? ive got it to install and justa bout everything else--but when it actually starts a mission it crashes
01:59.37nb9no9nr9wine walks the plank
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02:05.28reisiolies
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02:06.27reisioAkuw: what's the problem?
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02:07.10Akuwi am trying to use a webpage with jre plugins
02:07.10Akuw<Akuw> but can't do it
02:07.10Akuw<Akuw> i installed jre from sun and   used " ln -s /opt/jre/jre1.6.0_13/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
02:07.10Akuw<Akuw> "
02:07.10Akuw<Akuw> what happen?
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02:07.32reisiothat's a blessing, dude
02:07.36mischief6anyone know where i can find a package list for 3.1_r0a ?
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02:08.00mischief6or 3.1r8?
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02:21.45KCeverything in dmesg suggests the card works
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02:50.07Akuwi can't use this chat  http://www.kqlz.org/chatter/piratechat.php
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02:50.12J_Pmkdir: cannot create directory `/a': No space left on device
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02:50.12J_Psee? has 7,9 gb free and say no space left
02:50.12apparmorhelp, can not setup pppoe adsl dialup
02:50.12J_Pstrange..
02:50.12J_Pany idea ?
02:50.13apparmoranyone knows it ?
02:50.13apparmorerror : /usr/sbin/pppd: invalid numeric parameter 'lcp-echo-failure' for lcp-echo-interval option
02:50.13apparmorwhen use pppoe-connect
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02:52.27JordiGHDoes anyone have instructions for mounting an encrypted partition from a debian live cd?
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02:56.57JordiGHDid they bring back sticky keyboard layout switching?
02:57.02Gr33n3gggah I thought I already upgraded my servers to lenny
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03:01.09Supaplexhumm.
03:01.20Supaplexwhere's that bot that'll spit out hardware compatibility...
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03:09.50caotic_can anybody point me to ieee debian repositoires, Some friend is asking me this information.
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03:11.03JordiGHieee?
03:11.26JordiGHThe IEEE has Debian repos? They don't look like a very free software-friendly group to me.
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03:20.38aredhelcaotic_, if you are asking about the eeepc then: http://eeepc.debian.net/
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03:22.45JZAhi I need to add the contrib repos
03:22.48JZAwhere can I get that
03:24.16adb!sources
03:24.16dpkgThe list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code.  Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list.  Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
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03:26.28aoeumy machine won't do usb booting. how hard is it to do network booting?
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03:27.15adb!netboot
03:27.15dpkgnetboot is, like, a Debian installation method involving the use of TFTP and DHCP (or BOOTP, RARP) servers, to provide installation media to clients on a local network.  Not recommended for novice users, ask me about <netinst> instead.  See also <install guide>, <netboot miniiso>.
03:27.39aoeuwhy aren't there install floppies anymore?
03:27.59adbkernel size ?
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03:30.09Gr33n3ggw00t floppies
03:30.23adbhttp://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-3.1/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/
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03:33.58bsundsry
03:34.07bsundwhy is every debian user/developer wanker/gay?
03:34.10bsundya
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03:35.34liable!ops bsund is a very naughty boy
03:35.34dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: bsund is a very naughty boy
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03:35.57sshchi, I installed DenyHosts to keep the password guessers out, but now I can't ssh into localhost on the server itself now.
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03:37.14brad_I'm trying to remove a package, but there are unmet dependents so i can't do any package operations
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03:37.42brad_I thought rather than fix the dependents i would just remove the package casuing the problem
03:39.04liableand apt want let you remove it? how did you install it?
03:39.46brad_apt-get upgrade, but it failed
03:40.05brad_when i run any opperation it say i have to fix that problem first
03:40.11liablepaste your apt output somewhere
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03:41.46lilkidhelp! =[ my hdd seems corrupt beyond repair.. fsck can't even fix it.. is there anything else i can do before i (cry then) reinstall?
03:42.10jpinxlilkid: ddrescue
03:42.24jpinxor is it dd_rescue ?
03:42.27gaintsuradoes anyone have recommendations for a good featured mail server?
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03:42.31jpinxI can never remember
03:42.55gaintsuraimap/pop3/smtp and NOT courier
03:43.00jpinxgaintsura: postfix is what I use, but that means nothing
03:43.45gaintsuraI'm looking for secure, and fast, small to medium loads
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03:43.54gaintsuraand support for open pgp/ssl
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03:48.11delamanneed help with a simple subdomain on my server,  I can not seem to set one up by hand or by means of webmin, can anyone help?
03:49.18henriquetftI've just installed a debian system with debootstrap then chrooted it. When installing packages with aptitude I've noticed some error messages regarding locale (Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory for example). Do I need to set these variables manually? or should I perform some command to do these initial settings (what I think is done at normal debian installations)
03:49.30TitiHey friends, how to fix the PHP settings due to errors suppressing? At the beginnig of a script I try <?asjdadjsdjs.... and no error on the screen. I have checked error_reporting = E_ALL
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03:50.20jpinxdelaman: ask your question
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03:52.40gaintsuradelaman: 1) dont use webmin. 2) <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName sub.domain.tld; DocumentRoot /webdev/htdocs2/; </VirtualHost> <Directory /wbedev/htdocs2> foo; bar; </Directory>
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03:59.54delamangaintsura: what do i replace foo bar with ?
04:00.21gaintsurasee the Directory directive in the apache manual...?
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04:12.39multi_iolooks like iptables --delete chain rule-specification   doesn't.
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04:14.33multi_ioexeact same rule specification as given in the iptables --append before,
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04:14.50multi_io"iptables: No chain/target/match by that name"
04:14.57simonrvntry deleting the line number
04:15.07simonrvngoing by the*
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04:16.45multi_iothat works, but has abvious disadvantages
04:16.51simonrvnyeh
04:16.53multi_io*obvious
04:17.43simonrvnhm, did you give the table name? like -t filter ? maybe t wants *all* of it?
04:17.47simonrvnit
04:18.02simonrvnjust a thought..
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04:19.12multi_iohm, indeed
04:19.20multi_iothat works. Thanks :P
04:21.09gaintsuraI gave up deleting indivudal/adding individual lines and maintain an iptables.system file, add the line I need, cat iptables.system | iptables-restore =)
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04:24.33TimothyAis there a way to update the mime-detection?
04:25.19n3kl_pre-up /sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.save
04:25.25n3kl_gaintsura: ^^
04:25.43assilva<assilva> c79e1b70c6c2746c4650d6441ece8dcc  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
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04:26.00mordyuhh...
04:26.01assilva<assilva> 1f5d688832c5ef19076794aff92a4445  ./dists/jaunty/restricted/binary-i386/Release
04:26.03liableassilva: stop it
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04:26.06mordythat's very nice
04:26.07assilva<assilva> e699ead7b57accd39b568a56bbf5e285  ./dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Release
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04:26.19mordyi think he's trying to install debian on #debian
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04:26.33TimothyA. . .
04:26.33assilva<assilva> 44592c887ab4f94f9e7b76480bc2c542  ./.disk/release_notes_url
04:26.35assilva<assilva> 728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13eb  ./.disk/cd_type
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04:26.39assilva<assilva> 1ea2e85e63029b10c8bec37672c1637f  ./.disk/info
04:26.40^-^crz ?
04:26.41assilva<assilva> 62bf7841341b7faa69062fd0095af116  ./autorun.inf
04:26.42simonrvnassilva: what is your fucking problem?
04:26.43assilva<assilva> 8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6ce  ./install/README.sbm
04:26.45assilva<assilva> 5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6cd  ./install/sbm.bin
04:26.46TimothyAthere goes my question, being scrolled out of oblivion
04:26.47assilva<a
04:26.49assilvakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
04:26.53simonrvn!ops assilva
04:26.53dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: simonrvn complains about: assilva
04:26.53assilvayes touch now
04:26.56mordyTimothyA: what was the question?
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04:27.07TimothyAis there a way to update the mime-detection that debian provides?
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04:27.16multi_iohey, finally some traffic in this channel :-P
04:27.31simonrvnLoRez: thank you thank you
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04:27.32zinxwonders where debhelper got off to
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04:27.36mordyTimothyA: i don't know about update, but i once had a problem with mime being broken, i deleted some cache file, forgot where :|
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04:27.40TimothyAbangs his head on the desk
04:27.48simonrvnit's ok
04:27.49mordyi think there's a command for that as well, but forgot :(
04:28.01mordyupdate-mime perhaps?
04:28.03TimothyAit's a fresh distro
04:28.06TimothyAupdate-mime?
04:28.16simonrvnmordy: yeh, in /usr/share somewhere
04:28.22TimothyAis it a command? :|
04:28.29mordyyeah
04:28.30simonrvnyes...
04:28.37mordylet me apt-file for it to see what package provides it
04:29.02TimothyAthat's for updating /etc/mailcap ...
04:29.19simonrvnmime-support
04:29.22mordythere's mime-support which provides update-mime and there's shared-mime-info which provides update-mime-database
04:29.30simonrvnshared-mime-info: /usr/bin/update-mime-database
04:29.35mordy:P
04:29.55mordya mime is a terrible thing in white paste
04:29.57simonrvni used dlocate.. i have them installed ;p
04:30.03simonrvn*groan*
04:30.08TimothyAwhat's dlocate?
04:30.12mordylol
04:30.23simonrvnwonders if...
04:30.24flukei dont see where my 1gb of ram went
04:30.25simonrvn!dlocate
04:30.25dpkgdlocate is, like, now similar to <locate>, can be used to locate the package a file belongs to; "update-dlocatedb" to update the database to include recently installed files - has similar functionality as dpkg -S, but is faster
04:30.29flukewhere does it go?
04:30.31TimothyAah
04:30.33mordy<PROTECTED>
04:30.50flukeit starts nicely. has about 500mb as just booted
04:30.54flukethen after a ew days
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04:30.59mordy(from the manpage)
04:30.59fluke200 is left
04:31.08flukei dont know what is eating up this ram
04:31.16mordyfluke, the second line of `free` is wwhat you should be watching
04:31.19simonrvn!free ram
04:31.20dpkgUnlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
04:31.26simonrvnfluke: ^^^
04:31.37simonrvnswapwake? hmm
04:31.46mordy-/+ buffers/cache:        372       3596
04:31.50mordylol
04:32.03simonrvnhm, interesting
04:32.20flukesimonrvn:  so its all good then
04:32.37simonrvncompletely normal yes
04:32.38mordyis there something i can add in initramfs.conf to specify that "in addition to the `most` option, i also want $module to be loaded, as well as all its dependencies" ?
04:32.39gaintsuran3kl_: O.o that restores tables at runtime?
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04:32.42flukeheh.
04:32.46gaintsurasorry I wa slooking at mail servers
04:32.46flukei like that one.
04:33.14simonrvnmordy: the `modules` file is for that purpose.
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04:33.25flukeMem:       1026752     834856     191896          0      60812     609428
04:33.26TimothyApunches PHP
04:33.31TimothyAdetect the right mimetype, ffs!
04:33.45simonrvnsame syntax as /etc/modules
04:33.50fluke200+600+60
04:34.03fluke869mb free  if i got that right
04:34.18simonrvnTimothyA: that could be a server issue too, or a bad implementation of the php file thingy...
04:34.18flukeor... 'free'
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04:34.59simonrvnTimothyA: for web shit i usually look at the server first.
04:35.50flukewell..glad i didnt remove debuan and go for a highly optimized gnetoo cause of that
04:35.52mordyhmm.. on that note.. is anyone here familiar with s3fb?
04:36.00TimothyAit's using fileinfo, and it's detecting mimetypes incorrectly most of the time
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04:36.08TimothyAi mean, it detects textfiles as an wmv
04:36.53ryanCHwhat does "journal commit I/O error" mean?
04:37.12mordydo you have an external journal?
04:37.24TimothyAsimonrvn; i have no idea where to start looking to fixing this issue
04:37.35simonrvnTimothyA: ok, well make sure whatever function is using it is pointing to the right file, like /usr/share/misc/mimemagic (no extension) or whatever. www.php.net/manual/
04:37.38ryanCHmordy, i have an extern usb driver with ext3 on it
04:37.44ryanCH*drive
04:37.50TimothyAit is
04:38.03mordyryanCH: eeek.. usb is crappy, but i mean is your journal external (if you don't know, it probably isn't)
04:38.26mordybasically you can place your journal on a different volume if you specify at mkfs
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04:39.47mordy!gentoosmite
04:39.50simonrvnTimothyA: then look at your web server's stuff, or trying inserting some var_dump()s here and there.
04:40.00simonrvnmordy: need a nick too ;)
04:40.17mordyoh, i need to identify in order to query the bot?
04:40.29simonrvnno, "!gentoosmite foo"
04:40.49mordy_!gentoosmite mordy_
04:40.49dpkgspends 7 weeks recompiling mordy_, and when it's all done, mordy_ runs 8% slower than previously
04:41.04mordy_lol
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04:44.52mordy_but i'm basically trying to figure out how to make this framebuffer work at startup
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04:45.30HeavyBobDoesn't it 'just work'?
04:45.39mordy_no, i need a special framebuffer
04:45.46mordy_antiquated stuff here
04:45.58HeavyBobWhich?
04:46.04mordy_S3 ViRGE
04:46.47re-peatheh gentoosmite
04:47.10HeavyBobvideo=<driver>:1024x768-24@60 << As a kernel parameter line is the usual way.
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04:47.21HeavyBobAs an example.
04:47.51mordy_hmm.. let me see if that works.. one sec..
04:48.00HeavyBobOr use a vesa video mode number.
04:48.20mordy_no, vesa mode numbers don't work. i need to use s3fb, so i'll include that in the initrd
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04:49.41mordy_hmm.. would looking at the driver's source give me an idea of what arguments it takes?
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04:56.54izuahow does one read his email under debian? i'm talking about console stuff, not using kmail
04:58.03re-peatmutt?
04:58.32re-peatmail mailx
04:58.42izuaand they also send/login/etc?
04:59.33izuai mean, how does mail work in linux? :)
04:59.39simonrvnmordy_: modinfo
05:00.00izuawith the local mail folders and sendmail.. i assume there's a different concept compared to a all-in-one email client
05:00.27re-peatmutt i think might be what your looking for
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05:02.58multi_iothe send/login/etc is traditionally done by an MTA (mail transfer agent) like sendmail, postfix, ssmtp etc.
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05:03.58multi_ioit runs in the background and knows what mail to send to which SMTP server or local delivery folder or whatever
05:04.40multi_iothe mail client like mutt etc. just dispatches all mails to the MTA
05:04.53mordy_hmm.. actually just doing the video=s3fb:1024x768-8@24 did the trick
05:05.14KineticBugHow can I see like... total memory/cpu/hdd usage?
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05:05.48izuaKineticBug: top for a continously updated list of mem/cpu usage
05:06.04KineticBugtop for a?
05:06.06mordy_dstat is nice
05:06.30KineticBugOh right
05:06.43KineticBugtop is the program :P
05:06.46mordy_dstat will give you memory stats, detailed cpu stats, network stats etc.
05:06.53mordy_and it's got colors!
05:07.00izuaheh
05:07.02izuai got it right now
05:07.02KineticBugdstat it is
05:07.03izuacool :D
05:07.32multi_iohtop has colors too
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05:08.46KineticBugthanks :)
05:08.46izuawhoa
05:08.51izuahtop is cooler than top
05:08.57izuaanyway
05:09.08izuaso I need to install a MTA and a user agent?
05:09.14izuaand that's all?
05:10.38izuawhat's the brown bar in the memory bar for htop? it's completely full here
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05:11.17mordy_it could be showing your cache+buffers
05:11.26re-peathtop is kewl i like the F5?is it? tree view
05:12.08re-peatand when you want to kill something it shows you the different signals to send it
05:14.04re-peati'll drink to htop
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05:23.01izuawhich MTA should i get?
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05:23.51re-peatisnt exim defaul?
05:24.30re-peatlast i checked every base debian install i've done lately have included exim4
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05:27.10rockoSo I settled with the then just released Debian Lenny because it was stable and easy to free
05:27.48rocko"So I settled with the then just released Debian Lenny because it was stable and easy to free"
05:27.51rockohow do you free debian?
05:28.14zinxopen the cell door, duh
05:28.22izuayes, and let it run free
05:28.25izuafree Debian!
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05:29.25rocko(I just needed to replace the kernel with a Linux-libre build, Iceweasel with GNU IceCat and stick to the main repo.)
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05:31.40simonrvnah
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05:36.39izuaoook.. all stuff i found relied on eximconfig to configure it.
05:36.50izuai don't have that, and apt-get install eximconfig fails.
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05:39.05izuaor am i supposed to set the user/password/servers in mutt?
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05:47.17hyper__cham I right that volatile only exists for stable (and old stable) but not for squeeze and sid?
05:47.26simonrvnhyper__ch: yes
05:47.34hyper__chsimonrvn: thx :)
05:47.53dacsya zalama
05:47.57simonrvnthere's no point to having volatile for those.
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05:51.31dacsok lets try this one more time! :) if i have a DVD and it is ripped to my HDD, how can i take for example the first 10min and clip it as a new avi file?! using avidemux?
05:53.03dacsanyone
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05:56.47khaije1is there a metapackage to grab the headers, modules, and kernel image for a particular kernel version? (i see 2.6.29 is available)
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05:57.57dacsi need help with avidemux people, any one:P
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05:58.31mstudyei am thinking about installing debian testing is 64 bit better than 32bit
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06:01.28psticknehow can I get dpkg to /really/ force-all?
06:01.58pstickneI have some broken half-installed packages they refuse to be removed because the pre-removal script fails :(
06:02.23pstickneor how can I get apt-get to just download files /without/ checking for conflicts?
06:02.33pstickne(which aborts the download)
06:03.13khaije1to downlaod without checking for conflict go directly to the repo and download using wget or a wwwbroswer
06:03.20pstickne(apt-get)--
06:03.24psticknewhat a lame unfeature
06:03.26pstickne:(
06:03.28khaije1then use dpkg -i to install
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06:03.53pstickne-d should skip dependency checks :(
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06:04.41izuameh. this is too weird.
06:04.42pstickne(apt-get)--
06:04.47khaije1pstickne: i'm pretty sure i just answered yr question, did you try my suggestion?
06:05.51psticknekhaije1:  no you did not :( (e.g. it will work but is 100% lame)
06:05.52kingsleypstickne: I suppose you could also try removing the packages with aptitude or synaptic, but I'm concerned they may use dpkg and fail too.
06:06.17khaije1eh?
06:06.20pstickneoh, I am short console-base atm :(
06:06.47psticknekhaije1:  there is no good reason for apt-get to check deps on a download-only (for a manual dpkg installation)
06:07.10psticknekhaije1:  but it is what I am doing now :-/ (the manual downloading)
06:08.02psticknekhaije1:  maybe there is a special -o option or something...
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06:09.11khaije1pstickne: if you want to install deb's without database-style checking apt-get is the wrong tool, because thats exactly (and really only) designed to do
06:09.52psticknekhaije1:  I want to DOWNLOAD the debs
06:10.10psticknekhaije1:  I agree that deps should be checked for installing
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06:11.31ddaltonwhen I try to mount my cdrw, i get io device buffer errors as well as this: mount: /dev/scd0: can't read superblock
06:11.52ddaltonim using sudo mount /dev/cdrw /media/cdrom0/ to mount...? anyone know why it wont mount?
06:12.24psticknewrong filesystem type specified?
06:12.50ddaltonpstickne: what shall i give the -t option then?
06:12.52khaije1pstickne: ook i get what yr saying, sayin. ya i would expect the --force-yes option to allow unchecked downloads, probably the way the logic is ordered
06:13.30khaije1gonna try 2.6.29 brb
06:13.43ddaltonhello?
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06:14.20ddaltoncan anyone help or not?
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06:14.31izuai've been reading this tutorial on settting up gmail for exim
06:14.32liableddalton: try -t iso9660
06:14.42izuahttp://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/ -- now if i set my username and password in exim
06:14.54ddaltonliable: thanks ill try
06:14.54izuawouldn't every user connected to my box be able to send mail with that?
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06:15.32ddaltonnow i get:
06:15.33ddaltonmount: /dev/scd0: can't read superblock
06:15.54simonrvnum, same error
06:15.58ddaltonliable: ...sorry forgot to prefix message with your nick :)
06:16.02liableddalton: is that a scsi cd drive or something?
06:16.25ddaltonliable: how do I check?
06:17.10liableddalton: dunno, would have thought you would have known, its an odd device name for a cd drive
06:17.18simonrvnmisses cat /proc/scsi/scsi
06:17.42ddaltonliable: oh the actual device is at /dev/scd0 if that helps
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06:18.00dacswonder if there is lsscsi
06:18.10izuaok, i quit. i want a basic email client that will do by itself login/fetch/send for multiple email accounts
06:18.16izuais there such a thing?
06:18.18simonrvndacs: yeh
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06:19.24simonrvnizua: why are you even doing that? why not use something fetchmail or something, something *designed* explicitly for mua use.
06:19.26gpmi'm using kino to export a dv file as an mp4. the exporting fails with "ffmpeg: unrecognized option '-title'" but, looking at ffmpeg's manpage, that is clearly an option....any clues?
06:19.31ddaltonliable: i can mount cdrom i believe though... is it buggy cds?
06:19.40ddaltoni jst booted from it before though :)
06:20.04liableddalton: see if wodim will scan it and say anything interesting
06:20.04izuasimonrvn: i want email in my console. i have gmail and email from my hosting account
06:20.21izuait took me over 30 minutes to find, understand and configure exim, and it's still not working
06:20.23ddaltonliable: sodim devices?
06:20.32liableddalton: eh?
06:20.43izuaso i don't want exim as a MTA and something else as a MUA anymore. too much headache
06:20.48gpmare you trying to get exim to work with gmail? 'cause that's hella easy
06:20.55gpmHELLA easy
06:20.59izuai am trying to get email working ._.
06:21.06gpmemail works.
06:21.17izuathe frame of reference is my box
06:21.17ddaltonsorry
06:21.20liableddalton: wodim is the old cdrecord program
06:21.24ddaltonwhat args do i give to wodim?
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06:22.16simonrvnizua: and what's wrong with mutt? or any other app like that?
06:22.27liableddalton: wodim -checkdrive
06:22.40ddaltonliable: all wodim --devices gives is: 0  dev='/dev/scd0'     rwrw-- : 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRRW GSA-H30L'
06:22.43izuait requires a MTA which i'm spending too much beer time to configure
06:22.51ddaltonoh
06:23.12simonrvnyou point at your isp's mta and be done with it...
06:23.17izuai liked mutt, interface looks interesting, it popped up vim when i tried to compose.
06:23.31izuadude, firsthand, if i'd knew how to do that, i wouldn't be asking here.
06:23.36simonrvnizua: you don't need an mta to *get* from an imap box
06:23.39ddaltonperhaps this helps?
06:23.41ddaltonUsing generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
06:23.45izuasecond, i live in romania. there's no such thing as ISP email
06:23.55simonrvn!mta
06:23.56dpkgit has been said that mta is Mail Transfer Agent: a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP.  An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/lib/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary.  Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict.  Ask about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>.
06:24.11liableddalton: dunno, maybe it is the disc
06:24.30izuaI don't want to only get email. I also need to send it
06:24.37simonrvn*that* is an mta, and i VERY much doubt your claim, seeing that i see spam from .ro ocassionally ;).
06:24.39liableddalton: i thought it had a switch to check the medium, cant see it now
06:24.54ddaltonah damn.
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06:25.08gpmizua: are you trying to use exim with gmail
06:25.10ddaltonliable: thanks for your help! ill buy some new disks... what kind of cdrws must i get?
06:25.14izuayes, it's really not that hard to go to the tld, buy a domain and get an el-cheapo hosting package :)
06:25.17ddalton+ or -?
06:25.31izuathe two major ISPs have quit offering email and only offer a very limited webmail
06:25.35gpmizua: are you trying to use exim with gmail?
06:25.40izuagpm: yes
06:25.55simonrvnizua: no no, not email, the *MTA*.
06:25.57izuaand with another account, too.
06:26.00gpmomfg
06:26.08gpmfirst google result for "exim gmail" http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4
06:26.11simonrvnnm... it's pretty obvious you're not getting it :/.
06:26.14izuagpm: yes dude, it's hella easy for you.
06:26.15liableddalton: i think - used to be prefered, depends on manufature too iirc, been a while since I looked at that kind of stuff
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06:26.18ddaltonuses msmtp for sending far easier and fetchmail for receiving and procmail as mta
06:26.29izuai've been using this for almost three weeks now.
06:26.35gpmusing what?
06:26.36izuathis == debian
06:26.40gpmok
06:26.55liableddalton: see the blank command, see what it says
06:26.58gpmwhat's your point?
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06:27.18ddaltonliable: alright, thx ill see how i go, R worked fine maybe ill stick to that dunno. anyway im going thx again. bye
06:28.01izuamy point is that if i'll ask you to do something you're not fammiliar with, you'll probably suck at it
06:28.14gpmyou're right
06:28.22gpmi'm not trying to make you feel bad.
06:28.33psticknehow can I get aptitude to /not/ automatically remove unused packages? (I have set the "automatically remove unused" to false and it still wants to do it)
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06:28.39gpmdid you read that wiki article (http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4)
06:29.01izuaneah, it's ok. but this thing is stressing me out, the one for ubuntu was the third one i tried, and i couldn't get any email through
06:29.35izuai haven't googled specifically for gmail and exim. just general exim setup
06:29.38izualet me check that, thanks!
06:29.49gpmughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
06:29.56simonrvnpstickne: you quit it after you set it?
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06:30.25psticknesimonrvn:  yup -- same deal
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06:30.53psticknesimonrvn:  I just kept all the packages at the current level manually (thankfully the change cascades through a group) but it's annoying :-/
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06:30.56dpkgIs aptitude or apt-get trying to remove packages that it thinks were automatically installed?  This happens when you "aptitude install gnome" and then later remove bits of it, the gnome meta-package will be uninstalled and aptitude will try to remove lots more.  Fix this by running "aptitude install packagename" or "aptitude unmarkauto packagename" on strategically chosen packages, or reinstall the <metapackage>.
06:30.59izuawhat domain name should i use?
06:31.12liablebah
06:31.14pstickneliable:  it's aptitude that is doing it
06:31.15izuathe debian installer kept bugging me about it, so i simply wrote 'domain'
06:31.27izuaand now exim bugs me about it
06:31.42pstickneliable:  apt-get just shows the nice list of un-needed packages
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06:32.06gpmyou mean the system mail name?
06:32.25gpmthe very first question when you dpkg-reconfigure?
06:32.30izuayes
06:32.44izuai'm not sure how to pick the domain name
06:32.47gpmyou can put whatever you want.
06:32.54izuabut apparently, it has meaning beyond my local network
06:33.08gpmnot really since you'll be sending everything through gmail
06:33.46izuaok. is the address of the smarthost separated by two : from the port?
06:33.55gpmyes, two colons
06:33.56izuathat's what the tute says.. just making sure it's not a mistake
06:34.00gpmyes
06:34.04izuathat's.. weird
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06:34.20gpmyou'll have to use something other than exim to fetch the mail though...like fetchmail or something
06:34.38gpmor if you're using mutt you can just use its imap thing
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06:40.50izuablah. i ran mail, received nothing.
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06:43.24grendal_primehey guys..i got this web server....was working fine untell power blined off and the ups malfunctioned,(burned up) anyway the box comes up fine but for whatever reason it is trying to ping some other address over and over...
06:43.36grendal_primehow can i find out what is doing this...
06:44.01grendal_primeive tried to track it down with like htop, but...nothing seems to be ...well doable.
06:44.20grendal_primenot doable..i cant find what is requsting the ping.
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06:45.10wbdHi, anyone had problems with the apache web server after the recent openssl patch?
06:45.16ak70hi, recently I upgraded hal in sid and got a problem. with root account, the automount of usb disks still works in gnome, but with normal account it does not work anymore, so I guess there are some permission problem but I dont know how to solve it.
06:45.41wbddeb etch
06:46.24wbdcan anyone help me get apache running plz, its telling me to go away
06:46.34wbdits been fine
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06:50.55SigniusWould anyone be up for trying to help solve and xorg issue with debian lenny i having a nightmare trying to get the resolution i want
06:51.23wbdsorted my apache problem, thanks anyway
06:51.25SigniusI have tried various solutions on forums and everytime i change xorg.conf i am unable to restart the xserver
06:51.40gigois there any mobile phone that runs Debian?
06:51.47gigocan Debian be run on mobile phones?
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06:51.56SigniusI have a ATI 9200 Pro graphics card and want a resolution of 1280x1024
06:52.24wbdSignius: there is a driver for that card I believe
06:52.36wbdnot the real new ones though
06:52.45Signiuswbd yeah and when i install it it crashes the xserver also
06:52.58dacswhy when i play an avi with vlc i only hear voice but not seeing any pictuer?!
06:53.09SigniusIts an old card i dont need the latest and greatest drivers just as long as they work
06:53.12wbddid you install by the book as stated on the ati driver download page
06:53.57Signiuswbd possibly not have you got a link to that and i will give it another go
06:54.00wbdwhat xserver is lenny using
06:54.21Signiuswbd how can i tell ?
06:55.30wbdnot sure the command, something like xorg -v maybe
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06:55.59Signiusnope
06:56.00wbdI just have a remote deb etc server
06:56.11Signiusyeah i am SSH into the relevant box at the moment
06:56.15grendal_primeif there is a process executing ping..how can i find that process?
06:56.16wbdgoogle will know lol
06:56.24cahoot<PROTECTED>
06:57.04SigniusBuild Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-10)
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06:57.37SigniusX Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
06:57.48wbdSignius: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/linux64-radeon-prer200.aspx
06:58.18Signiusyeah they rpms tho
06:58.30wbdthere is a script there to see whats what by the looks
06:59.09wbdthere is a run one?
06:59.31wbdI have only installed the driver on opensuse sry
06:59.48Signiuswhich is rpm based distro
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07:00.29mstudyehi
07:00.34wbdyeah but there is a sh one there
07:00.47wbdonly a matter of getting it started
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07:00.59mstudyei am thinking about installing debian is 64bit better than 32bit
07:01.35wbd64 bit makes better use of large memory I think
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07:02.14Signiusthere is only 3 there 2 rpm and a .run and the .run is for Xfree86 the check.sh only tells you what version of Xfree86 your running which irrelevant these days
07:02.20Signiusunless you can see something i cant
07:02.22gigois there any mobile phone that runs Debian? can Debian be run on mobile phones?
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07:03.15zinxgigo: short answer: no
07:03.16Signiusok i will keep googling
07:03.19mstudyei am thinking about installing debian is 64bit better than 32bit
07:03.37wbdSignius: then its a matter of waiting for ati to do a driver but I would have thought with older cards there would not be a problem anyway
07:03.51Signiusmstudye depends what you want to do but i would always go for 64bit when possible
07:04.05Signiuswbd arent going to update any of them drivers its not going to happen
07:04.12Signiusok thanks anyways i will keep searching
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07:05.02eix(squeeze) I am experiencing kernel oops when shutting down/rebooting. they are not logged (happening when unmounting root partition, JFS). has somebody experienced something similar?
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07:05.36Signiusok i think i found the right driver in the repos lots of the forums assume you have a more recent card i think
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07:06.33mstudyei am thinking about installing debian is 64bit better than 32bit
07:06.54wbdmy old pc had a 9200 and ubuntu installed it fine, 3d as well so there must be a driver that works out there somewhere
07:06.54Signiusxserver-xorg-video-radeon is already the newest version. hmmm i guess thats the problem either
07:07.39wbdthats the problem, not sure if there is a driver for the new xorg
07:08.07Signiuswbd yeah every other distro detects this card perfect on this test box the last version of debian included but something is royally screwed with lenny regarding this because loads of people are having issues with it not just on ati cards but nvidia also
07:08.19dacswhy when i play an avi with vlc i only hear voice but not seeing any pictuer?!
07:08.26mstudyehello
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07:08.54Signiusdacs missing codecs most likely.......have you tried the video on any other boxes or players ?
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07:09.27dacsSignius: how do i know which codec i need?
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07:10.09dacsSignius: vlc, mplayer doesn't play it xine does
07:10.36bpundacs, try opening the apple movie trailer site.. u might have codecs being asked for install..
07:11.06Signiusif xine plays it then its not a codec issue i dont think ....unless vlc doesnt know where the relevant codec is and needs the path to it
07:11.07bpundacs, apple.com/trailers
07:11.45Signiusapple will prob just give you some bullshit nonsense about needing apple hell on earth pile of rubbish quicktime
07:12.40dacsbpun: play fine
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07:17.51bpundacs, i found avifile-win32-plugin
07:18.43bpundacs, may avidemux might install necessary libraies for it
07:18.46simonrvnmumbles something about pebkac errors
07:21.57dacsbpun: still can't play it
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07:24.21bpundacs, is the avi file large?
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07:24.43wbdI would say stay on the codecs thing
07:25.02wbdits just installing them that will be a pain with deb I expect
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07:25.55dacsbpun: 500+
07:26.15wbdyou should try on the official deb irc channel too
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07:32.14grendal_primethis is making me crazy
07:32.20grendal_primei cant figure out what is doing this
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07:33.47liablewhat?
07:34.03liableoh the ping thing?
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07:34.40grendal_primeya
07:34.46liablenetstat no help?
07:34.51grendal_primeit is pinging three diff servers..
07:35.00grendal_primedidn try that..how would i use it?
07:35.06liableyou been botarised!
07:35.15liablenetstat -pantu
07:35.29liablese if theres anything interesting
07:35.54mischief6anyone know where i can find a package list for 3.1_r0a ?
07:35.57mischief6or 3.1r8?
07:36.19liablemischief6: archive.debian.org?
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07:37.16grendal_primei dont see anything in there that jumps out
07:37.25grendal_primewhat do you mean botarized?
07:37.27topgun21_or nslookup archive.debian.org
07:37.43liablegrendal_prime: post your ps output and netstat output
07:37.56liablegrendal_prime: i meant you could have been rooted.
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07:38.38grendal_primeya thats my fear
07:38.47grendal_primegrrrrr
07:38.59grendal_primei really dont want to have to rebuild that box right now.
07:39.00topgun21_archive.debian.org should point to this ip address  194.109.137.218
07:39.12grendal_primei checked it with the chkrootkit...nothing came up
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07:39.49grendal_primeok were you want this posted?
07:39.58liablepaste.debain.net
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07:40.34topgun21_what package do i install to get the functionality of checkrootkit?
07:40.35grendal_primeno such thing
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07:40.49liablei made a typo..
07:41.59mischief6liable, so how exactly can i go about getting/burning a CD image for sarge?
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07:42.34liablemischief6: did you look at archive.debian.org?
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07:43.34grendal_primeliable: i figured it out
07:43.37grendal_primehttp://paste.debian.net/33250/
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07:45.07grendal_primethe box has only ports 80 443 22 and openvpn(cant remember what it is) open. I access it via an openvpn connection for almost everything
07:45.21simonrvn!tell topgun21_ -about search
07:45.30grendal_primeand i drop all icmp on it.
07:45.51grendal_primeim suprised anything automated would even find it.
07:45.58liablegrendal_prime: how are you detecting the pings, and which port is it, and what addresses is it pinging?
07:46.10grendal_primeim using iptraf..
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07:46.23grendal_primehold on ill get the ip's i know one is in china
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07:47.34grendal_primeyou want these here?
07:47.54liablesure
07:48.14grendal_primeits going to complain...ill pastbin them
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07:49.03grendal_primehttp://paste.debian.net/33252/
07:49.24grendal_primethose look diff than the ones i saw earlyer...like it may be going through a list.
07:49.45grendal_primeor several subnets.
07:50.04liablewhats that perl program doing in your netstat output i wonder.. whats your ps aux output
07:50.15grendal_primehold on
07:50.27grendal_primei didn tsee a pearl prog
07:50.31jintxowhat makes you think those are results of "ping" ? they could be just a router telling you through icmp that you can't reach certain ips
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07:51.20grendal_primejintxo: there are three other boxes on the network, this is a store, they are all linux workstations. there is one person using one machine there.
07:51.48grendal_primethey are not browsing to all of those places and there is no wireless devices connected.
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07:54.08grendal_primeps aux has  a ton of stuff..again i dont see anything i can distingush as out of the ordinary
07:54.16grendal_primeyou want i should past that as well?
07:54.40jintxothe netstat looks quite normal, check out that perl program listening on 10000 (pid 273) see what it is (you an probably see the files in /proc/ elonging to that process
07:54.41liablecant hurt to look.
07:54.52jintxo2703
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07:56.28grendal_primeport 10000 is webmin im sure.  (it is only accessible from lo)
07:56.55grendal_primeliable: did you want that ps aux posted?
07:57.03liableyeah
07:57.14liable!webmin
07:57.14dpkgmethinks webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal.  Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality.
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07:57.33grendal_primehttp://paste.debian.net/33253/
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07:57.53grendal_primeyes im aware of the problems with webmin.  Thats why it is only accesible via lo
07:57.56mavhcso what replaces webmin?
07:58.23grendal_primethe only way to use it is to first vpn into the box
07:58.58grendal_primeIts not accesible from the internal network or the external network. This box is the router.
07:59.20jintxoyah it's webmin. got anything "funny looking" in /tmp ? that's the place most worms or whatever you want to cal them write their sh*t to
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07:59.55grendal_primethats where i looked first..
08:00.30grendal_primechecked all the cheep shots to like rc.local.  This thing started acting like this after a short poweroutage and a failed ups.
08:00.54grendal_primebut i mean the box comes up..all the procs are working..its just werid
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08:01.23grendal_primeand intermitant..and like i say all this bizarro icmp req's from the box...well looks suspect to me.
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08:04.05grendal_primeThis box also just passed a nessus scan...i just dont get it
08:04.22vinograd19Hi everyone! I have windows ce installed on PDA with x86. There is no keyboard. I want to turn off my internal drive to boot from a usb pendrive to run Ubuntu Mobile. How do I reach bios?
08:05.02grendal_primevinograd19: wheres the manual for the PDA?
08:06.25jintxoI dunno, I don't think their ICMP reqs, they're someone trying to tell you through icmp that certain ips aren't reachable. now who and why the box is trying to reach them is another story. you do have a few things tat I would turn off unless you use them, like all the portmap/nfs stuff and identd in inetd ut otherwise It doesn't look bad from here
08:07.02vinograd19grendal_prime manual doesn't contain info about bios. It's a WebDt 366 computer
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08:07.23grendal_primealright man well thanks for taking a look
08:07.38jintxowhat do you think liable ?
08:07.48grendal_primeim going to install clamav on it and run that tonight
08:08.28liabletry killing the services one by one and see if it stops.
08:08.37vinograd19<grendal_prime>, how can I get out does this computer have bios or not?
08:08.52liableim at a bit of a loss as to what would be doing it
08:09.02jintxogrendal_prime, also if you said this box is the router, then maybe the traffic is generted from one of your intenl router and you are eeing the consequences on this box because it is the router.
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08:13.27grendal_primeya but it would actually show the internal requester's ip address..i see that other traffic seperate from this one..
08:13.56grendal_primeim pretty sure its not the onther machines...ive isolated them from this box and this bs still goes on.
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08:14.32grendal_primei just find it odd...that i cant see WHAT is pinging..
08:14.58grendal_primethe firewally is configured to throw that exact error when it gets icmp requests.
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08:17.13jintxoicmp is not only ping although ping does use icmp :-)
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08:18.33grendal_primecant think of anything else that would use it on that network though.
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08:19.13grendal_primeim running some updates, ill kill off nfsd and portmap, i dont even know why i still have that on there....oh wait...shit..i may actually need that..
08:19.21liablestop your services and see if it stops
08:19.27grendal_primeummm wait no i can use scp instead.
08:21.06grendal_primeif that box is owned im going to need to start drinking
08:21.23grendal_primeon a grand scale
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08:22.14grendal_primei wonder..could some other piece of...hardware start doing something like this?
08:22.22jintxodon't over do it :-) http://xkcd.com/323/
08:22.26montoyaHi, I have this error while building nvidia drivers... why? http://pastebin.com/d2cc0180a
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08:23.15topgun21_Is there a method for cahcing the apt server locally?
08:23.53grendal_primehahah thats classic
08:24.09grendal_primetopgun21_: yes, you can make your own repo
08:24.29liabletopgun21_: yes theres a few apt proxies
08:24.52topgun21_O don't have the dough to lease one
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08:25.07grendal_primeits very handy if you have an apliance or somethign where you want to keep your own personalized branch
08:25.12topgun21_liable: Apt proxies
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08:26.09grendal_primetopgun21_: you could also just download all the disks...what is it like 15 or something now?
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08:27.30topgun21_That would require upgrading to a leased line which costs too much, i really wish that FAU or broward college would start an apt mirror
08:28.03liabletopgun21_: apt-cache search apt proxy
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08:40.02jintxoyay, kernel smba and bind updates in lenny ...
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08:56.01antipivohi all, who is play on lain game for Debian ?
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09:04.09simonrvnwow, some major changes in kernel-package... looks like it's grown up some more :)
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09:06.12CoolColdrumors say we should update topic
09:06.41antipivosimonrvn: but something like this quaqe3  ? :)
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09:08.10simonrvnantipivo: what are you talking about?
09:08.36klaz168whew 160MB of upgrades available just today?
09:09.12simonrvnyeh, i had 55
09:09.27simonrvnCoolCold: yeh, looks it. debian_version changed to 5.0.1
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09:10.18simonrvnantipivo: what about it?
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09:11.25klaz168wonder why bash 4 isnt included
09:11.45simonrvnlikely not ready yet, i guess
09:11.57CoolColdsimonrvn: and oldstable updated too
09:12.06antipivosimonrvn: where I can download this game for debian, and how I can play game free server play?
09:13.15simonrvnantipivo: their web site. i don't know, nor care.
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09:33.25izuahow can i switch users without spawning a process from the current user?
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09:33.41izuafor example, if i login as root, then su to my user, then again su to root, i have to type exit three times
09:34.16Gr33n3ggsu - username && do some stuff && exit && do some stuff && su - username && some more stuff && exit?
09:34.24wbdcan you not alt f6 alt f7 etc?
09:34.42izuai use screen
09:35.00wbdyes, try that
09:35.15izuaneah, if i su, it still spawns as a subprocess
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09:35.32wbdsry I use suse as a desktop in the past, but should work in deb
09:36.08wbdI have a remote deb etch
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09:52.31dpkg< rahul> #kde seems to be about as knowledgable as #ubuntu
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09:53.15DaemonikI want to install the unstable version of gtk2-engines-unstable on stable, what is the proper way to do this? Using Synaptic I have stable as the preferred distribution. When I try to use the "force package" option, after clicking apply a star appears over the rectangle next to gtk2-engines-murrine, then immediately disappears.
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10:05.52iamFIREcrackerhi all, i was looking for a way to use my external monitor without X started; i wounder if should i add any options to the kernel line
10:06.01iamFIREcrackercould someone help me?
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10:09.42Gr33n3ggGIYF.
10:13.52iamFIREcrackeri've already serched with google but i did not found the solution
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10:24.08YuLiansuwell is this the right place to ask why gawk doesn't recognize {n,m} in RE?
10:25.18YuLiansuecho 20041101.jpg  | gawk '/[0-9a-z._]*/ { print;}' => 20041101.jpg
10:25.27YuLiansuecho 20041101.jpg  | gawk '/[0-9a-z._]{4,13}/ { print;}' => output nothin
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10:26.52navaladican somebody help me to replace a string in a binary file ?
10:27.22navaladii tried to edit it in vim editor , but i get "Segmentation Falult"
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10:30.02liablenavaladi: edit it with a hex editor
10:30.24liablemay not work though if string length is different
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10:31.02navaladiliable : can i use ghex2?
10:31.14navaladiliable : do u know anything command based?
10:31.39liablewhat do you mean?
10:31.52navaladiliable : for example i want to replace "naval" to "navaladi" !
10:32.28navaladiliable : i meant, command line based hex editors e.g vim, emacs ?
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10:32.52navaladiliable : i get "Segmentation Fault" after using vim
10:33.18liablei cant remember any off the top of my head
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10:37.27Jaleksnavaladi: what about  "  apt-cache show `apt-cache search hexedit| cut -f 1 -d " "|tr "\n" " "`|less -W  "?
10:38.11flourishhello, are there some websites/forums about howto hack on linux, i want to learning some hack technique for security reason
10:38.35flourishor maybe just for fun to know some cool technique
10:39.36navaladijaleks - thanks i will have a look
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10:40.41Jaleksflourish: try `apt-cache search hack` ;-)
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10:41.47flourishJaleks: :-)
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10:43.11CoolColdSadist: go away :)
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10:43.24SadistCoolCold: dirty nigga ? :)
10:43.29Sadist:-D
10:43.42CoolCold4e eta vi sjuda ponalezli
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10:44.35SadistCoolCold: deja vu
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10:44.45tecneeqflourish: try http://127.0.0.1/, awesome stuff there :)
10:45.15Sadist:)
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10:46.02tecneeqno really, i'm serious, it's as if i had personally collected it, all first class stuff
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10:46.24SPFI'm trying to install an update for mldonkey-server. But it fails: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
10:46.27topgun21How do iinstall rythmbox on a xfce environment
10:46.41SPFI also tried install --reinstall
10:47.02SPFI'm on lenny
10:47.51tecneeqSPF: i use mldonkey too, but i have it installed into my ~/bin/ wich works far better for me. i never could be bothered to learn the debian way of mldonkey installation
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10:48.42tecneeqthe same goes for firefox, thunderbird and java
10:48.52tecneeqprobably more work tho
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10:53.07topgun21tecneeq: what is mldonkey?
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10:55.05tecneeqtopgun21: p2p client/server, speaks ed2k, torrent, DC and so on
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10:56.24topgun21I am in the process of installing rhythmbox on a freshly installed xfce baswed system
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10:56.49SPFI think mldonkey is only clients under linux that has a commandline interface and speaks ed2k
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10:57.37SPFs/is/is the/
10:57.41tecneeqSPF: nope. i can tell, i use it quite a lot :)
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11:00.57topgun21isd it a bad idea to run the testing software on a machine that id needed for daily  use
11:01.40Arrowmasternot really
11:02.09Arrowmastertesting is fairly stable most of the time
11:02.12Sadistdeb testing is more stable than ubuntu
11:02.54Sadisti'm using testing on the desktop machine more than 2 yrs, works fine
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11:03.07Arrowmasteryeah i always use testing over stable too
11:03.15Jalekstopgun21: its for personal use give it a shot
11:03.32Jaleks/s/its/if its/
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11:04.56topgun21does xmission.com have the squeez repositories?
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11:06.02topgun21what is the code name for the testing  viriant of debian at this point in time
11:06.15Sadistsqueeze
11:06.31topgun21thanks Sadist
11:06.54Arrowmasterwtf i upgraded linux-libc-dev yesterday and now it wants to upgrade it again
11:07.11Sadistnew kernel is arrived
11:07.17Sadist2.6.26-2
11:07.38Arrowmasteryes but my squeeze box wants to install linux-libc-dev from sid now for some reason
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11:08.03Arrowmasterit seems linux-libc-dev in squeeze regressed or something
11:08.11Sadistmaybe
11:08.38Arrowmasterits back to 2.6.26-13 when it upgraded to 2.6.26-15 yesterday
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11:09.41Arrowmasterso aptitude wants to upgrade it to 2.6.29-2 now since 2.6.26-15 doesnt exist in anything in my sources.list
11:11.22topgun21I am well on my way to runing squeeze
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11:14.57topgun21i am in the process of upgrading to a squeeze based system
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11:17.03qwespcould anybody help please. i cannot connect to mysql on my linux box on my local network. locally, telnet localhost 3306 works. remotely telnet <hostname> doesn't work. tcpdump shows some traffic on 3306 when attempting to connect
11:17.30qwespwhat should i do ? host.allow and .deny are empty
11:17.40Sadistedit my.cnf
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11:17.41qwespiptables -L shows no rules
11:17.53Sadistmysql by default runs only on localhost
11:18.07qwespSadist: ah ok,..so what to put in?
11:18.34Sadistcomment bind-address = line
11:18.57Sadistbind-address= 127.0.0.1
11:18.57qwespSadist: oh...i'm so stupid
11:19.03qwespsurely
11:19.52qwespwould 0.0.0.0 work for all devices
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11:19.53qwesp?
11:20.09qwespis it possible to list local IPS ?
11:20.14qwespIPs
11:20.24topgun21How do i make aan iptable rule too deny all incomming trafic from doubleclick.net I did an nslookup and got a positive ip address?
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11:20.59Sadistqwesp: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-enable-remote-access-to-mysql-database-server.html
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11:21.20Python1320Could anyone help me with my script? It works but when there are spaces in names the whole thing goes crazy. The script is: "bzip2 -k $(find . -type f \( -iname "*" ! -iname "*.lua" ! -iname "*.txt" ! -iname "*.bz2" \))"
11:21.22Sadistor mysql manual :-D
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11:22.47qwespSadist: thanx
11:22.56peppetopgun21: you can't filter by "hostname", only by ip. do you know the ip addresses of every doubleclick.net machine?
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11:23.14tecneeqPython1320: find ... | while read line ; do bzip2 -k "$line" ; done
11:23.32peppePython1320: use find -print0 ... | xargs -0 bzip2 -k
11:23.37Python1320ah ok
11:23.38Python1320thanks
11:24.02topgun21peppe: I know the ip address iof the doublecklick machine that the nslookup command returned.
11:25.49peppetopgun21: so use something like iptables -A INPUT -s the_ip_address -j DROP
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11:28.33clamiaxhi
11:28.44topgun21thanks peppe
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11:29.19mikeXhello, is there a reason why .otf files are not included in the libertine package in debian?
11:29.43tecneeqpeppe: isn't -prin0 a gnu extension?
11:30.07EulexmikeX, opentype fonts works just as well if they have a .ttf file ending. so could perhaps just be renamed.
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11:31.08peppetecneeq: I'm not sure. but isn't debian a gnu system? :-P
11:32.20mikeXEulex: you mean treat tt fonts as ot? What about features specific to ot fonts ?
11:32.21tecneeqpeppe: indeed, now that you mention it :o)
11:32.46EulexmikeX, whether it's an ot or tt font depends on the contents, not the file extension
11:32.50tecneeqi hang to much in #netbsd i guess
11:33.07mikeXEulex: obviously, this is why I'm asking why the ot fonts are not included in debian
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11:34.07EulexmikeX, well, I just handed you the guess that they might be renamed and work just as well, if they're not... ask the maintainers. or look if there are any documentation detailing it.
11:34.57clamiaxI got a question: putting some xset line (e.g. xset s off) into the ~/.xinitrc file the setting is ignored at all. The ~/.xinitrc file is read since my wallpaper is set via this file. If i run xset from an X terminal emulator it works properly. Does anyone have an idea of what's the problem?
11:35.15mikeXnope, no readme file or anything, not sure if I should file a bug report either, since the package is ttf-linux-libertine
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11:42.02tecneeqclamiax: could it be that your WM sets different stuff shortly after xsession runs?
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11:43.13clamiaxtecneeq: no, it's impossible. I use dwm which never touch X configuration at all.
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11:44.22tecneeqclamiax: well, then i'm out of ideas
11:44.34clamiaxtecneeq: mmh.. okay, THX anyway.
11:44.37konrWon't there be a Debian Songbird package?
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12:24.38Leonidaswhat's with this big APT update today?
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12:25.04PolarinaLeonidas: Which repository?
12:25.07Leonidasit is neither listed as security.debian.org nor debian 5.0.1
12:25.22LeonidasPolarina: main I think
12:25.33PolarinaLeonidas: stable, unstable or sid?
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12:26.52LeonidasPolarina: stable
12:27.13PolarinaI haven't noticed anything.
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12:27.17Jaleksnon big lenny main update here...
12:27.41Leonidaslinux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64
12:27.48Leonidasis new, for example
12:28.25Leonidaslinux-latest-2.6 (17+lenny1) stable; urgency=high
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12:28.53PolarinaHigh?!? :O
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12:30.54adi1hi all..i know im off topic here but anyone knows a website where i can send free as in free beer sms to at least in europe?
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12:31.12Leonidas* Update to 2.6.26-2.
12:31.14azeem_adi1: right, you're off topic.  Please ask elsewhere
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12:35.55jintxoyah I got updates for kernel, bind and samba on my server, so I took a step back and tested it first. I would say a 5.0.1 release is out but not yet announced or something like that?
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12:42.36Jaleksflower: i am not really in this thing, but my rt2500 worked fine without special kernel config
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12:43.43narhenI have a problem. http://naarstad.com/Screenshot.png
12:43.56narhenanyone know how to fix this?
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12:44.22narhenreally annoying! =p
12:44.50Jalekswargh, 1.8MB sc?! o.0
12:45.24azeemnarhen: next time, learn how to compress your images
12:45.43narhensr
12:45.43maligorJaleks, if that's 802.11g, that's actually relatively near maximum
12:45.44narheny
12:46.03maligorwell.. maybe nearer 50%
12:46.10Jaleksmaligor: the screnshot, not rt2500 ;-)
12:46.43maligoroh.. a 1.8mb screenshot, heh
12:47.02maligornice squares you have there
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12:47.26narhenmaligor: Yeh, know how to fix it?
12:47.29maligornarhen, I'd say it's defaulting to a font that doesn't have latin letters for some reason
12:47.45maligorchange the font? :P
12:48.25maligorsystem->pref->appearance->fonts :P
12:49.16maligorif it defaults to Sans, you can check what font it really is with: fc-match Sans
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12:50.07narhenmaligor: fc-match Sans
12:50.08narhenDejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
12:51.09maligorjust change it in gnome prefs
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12:52.05narhennothing really helps. No mater which font I use..
12:52.33maligorfor Window Title?
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12:53.27maligorusing sid?
12:54.31narhenyes for window title. (I think)
12:55.09narhenmaligor: You want to do it for me? via vnc?
12:55.24maligorno.
12:55.28narhenok
12:55.33maligorbut do you use sid or testing?
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12:55.55maligorsince if you do, it's quite likely it's a broken package somewhere
12:56.10maligorthere was a lot of changes in that area recently
12:56.11narhensid i belive. Not testing..
12:56.36maligorthen you'll have to find out what broke it
12:56.40jintxoyannustdkhtfb
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12:57.52maligorhighly likely ones would be fontconfig or gtk I guess
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13:00.03narhenok maligor, thank you
13:00.23joerghi, I have a package available in version 173.14.09-05 and 173.14.09+3+lenny -- which one is newer?
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13:00.47narhenbtw maligor it happend right after I installed gtk+
13:00.48maligornarhen, /var/log/dpkg.log lists installed packages
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13:03.50magciusWhat is the default Debian WM?
13:04.02liablethere isnt one
13:04.12magciusFor some reason I remember stumpwm being used.
13:04.14magciusThanks.
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13:04.30Valxwell
13:04.37Valxheres the problem
13:04.41Valxtrying to make install to a dir
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13:04.48Valxnot a wide system installation
13:05.34Valxand the INSTALL files say i should add --prefix=/home/user/
13:06.11Valxbut im getting some error - make: unrecognized option `--prefix=/home/
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13:07.03EulexValx, make doesn't manage install prefixes, the ./configure script usually does so
13:07.04Valx..pluse can do a system wide installation since i dont have root access
13:07.16Valxwtf!
13:07.28Valx1 min
13:07.45Eulexit may perhaps be possible to set $PREFIX or something like that for make, but you'd need to check the makefile for that
13:08.03Valxty
13:08.07ValxEulex , thats correct :)
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13:08.26Eulexnp
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13:11.45Valxperfect :)
13:12.04Valxall done.
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13:14.36ValxEulex : know any http proxy better than tinyproxy
13:14.50Valxthis one's giving me problems
13:14.58Valxinstalled it with prefix=
13:15.19Valxand now it wants access to /var/log/tinyproxy.log
13:15.32ValxPermission denied...
13:15.48xororandsquid is good, Valx
13:15.52Valxany no info online since no one uses it :(
13:15.55maligoranyone know of any way to see download speed inside the debian installer?
13:16.00Valxxororand, yes it is
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13:16.22Valxxororand , but its a heavy one
13:16.40Valxcache options and stuff
13:16.52Valxneed one that can just get data for the user
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13:17.01Valxplain and simple.
13:17.07xororandi've always used tinyproxy for that
13:17.17xororandit's in the debian repository as well
13:17.18canhi
13:17.36Valxxororand , yes i noticed but it gives you a system wide installation
13:17.38cani have a question about debian?
13:17.44Valxi need to run more than one on the system
13:17.50Valxcan : go ahead
13:18.06cani can't install *.deb docs
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13:18.31canhow i install *.deb files
13:18.38Jaleks1maligor: in which installer of them?
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13:18.47Valxcan : whats the error ?
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13:18.55Jaleks1can: sudo dpkg -i hereyougo.deb
13:18.56Mylestroif i use apt-get install, how do if ind where the files were installed?
13:18.57albatorcan: In a terminal "dpkg --install thefile.deb
13:19.01Mylestroi cant find my jboss scritpts
13:19.15canok i will try thanks
13:19.18Valxif your using the default isntall , then the theres a gui installer for you.
13:19.25Valxinstall*
13:19.44liableMylestro: dpkg -L package
13:19.51Mylestroliable: thanks
13:20.11ajw05why do I have about 80 updates coming from lenny/main today when the website says the last update was 14th Feb 2009?
13:20.21maligorJaleks1, it's just the standard ascii one, but doesn't matter, looks like it's ok
13:20.40liableajw05: lenny+1 appears to have been just released
13:20.52Valxxororand : i used =prefix for tinyproxy's insallation but now its need access to /var/log
13:21.03Valxit gives that error after ./tinyproxy
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13:21.21Valxwith permission de.
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13:21.24ajw05I hadn't seen any mails about it on -announce either
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13:21.31liableme either
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13:21.33ajw05makes me slightly nervous
13:21.39liableme too
13:21.46xororandValx: there's an option to set the logfile in tinyproxy.conf
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13:23.20Valxxororand : btw the install ended up with 3 dirs. tinyproxy/etc,tinyproxy/sbin,tinyproxy/share
13:23.23Valxthat normal ?
13:23.31xororandyes
13:23.44xororandit creates 3 subdirectories in the prefix-directory
13:24.08xororandValx: a common location to install applications per user is --prefix=$HOME/.local/
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13:24.43Valxwhats .local/ ?
13:24.52Valxas in /.tinyproxy/ ?
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13:25.58xororandValx: ~/.local/ is a good place to install applications in your home directory
13:26.17xororandValx: anyway, you can solve your /var/log/ problem in tinyproxy.conf
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13:27.12Zookeyhi
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13:27.53Zookeyi have a question: i have a broadcom wireless card, and i think it isnt supported, coz in the wireless manger it dont find my network. is there any driver for it in the package manager or otherwhere?
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13:28.45dsl1232hello
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13:29.47dsl1232I have a question about minimal debian; is it possible to install it from ram without needing a CD ? i mean, like from HD to RAM, then install to HD
13:30.06virtualhello, if I apt-get install kde it installs the whole system, if I want just the base system what do I have to install ?
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13:30.37asgvirtual: try kdebase
13:30.53asgvirtual: /msg dpkg install kde (for more info)
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13:31.52ajw05Zookey: can you be more specific about what card it is?
13:32.00virtualasg thank you alot, is there a way to completly remove kde and everything it installed or is it better to reinstall debian from scratch ?
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13:32.11Zookeydoes it help if i say the notebookmodel?
13:32.31empiric1hi guys any one know any gud enterprise portal in open source in comparison with share point
13:32.41ajw05no, but if you run lspci -v it should tell you more about it
13:33.34Zookeyin everest i have just these informations: Netzwerk:
13:33.34ZookeyPrimäre IP-Adresse [ TRIAL VERSION ]
13:33.34ZookeyPrimäre MAC-Adresse 00-00-00-00-00-00
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13:33.57ajw05it probably works with ndiswrapper if you have windows drivers for it
13:33.58dsl1232ajw05: Do you maybe know if, when I would unpack the debian.iso on my HDD at / , would it launch the installer at boot?
13:34.03ajw05see: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper
13:34.24topogigiolol i used nvidia-glx and i-m on xserver now
13:34.55ajw05I don't think that would work dsl1232 - from memory some bits of syslinux need to be made bootable.
13:35.04ajw05you could unpack it and use grub probably
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13:35.18ajw05if you had grub on the MBR/CD/Floppy/Usb stick
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13:35.42dsl1232=/ i only have a really fat usb stick, it blocks everything T_T
13:36.25ajw05are you trying to install without a CD?
13:36.27Zookeyajw05: this is the xp driver, if i helps :http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqnk/us/download/24001.html
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13:36.51dsl1232ajw05: yes, i only have a HD and nothing more... no zip, no usb stick, no cd :(
13:37.27dsl1232i heard about unetbootin, but on damn small linux i cant install anything from any repo; errors over errors and woody and kernel 2.4 and so on...
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13:37.37ajw05can you put the hard drive in another PC or something?
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13:37.52topogigiois kde4 stable on lenny?
13:38.17dsl1232no its the only PC i have and its from 1998...
13:38.17ajw05the windows driver probably works with ndiswrapper - i'd give it a go
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13:38.37Zookeyndiswrapper, what is that?
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13:38.50ajw05it's a linux interface to windows drivers: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper
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13:39.33ajw05what's it got running at the moment then? and are you trying to replace it or set up dual booting?
13:40.17dsl1232ajw05: i run damn small linux... and its un-updatable
13:40.37dsl1232if i could just strip it down to apt-get and console, would be enough
13:41.39ajw05so what bootloader do you have installed at the moment?
13:41.42Zookeybye
13:41.43Valxxororand : getting this http://pastebin.com/d61e85fce after i execute tinyproxy
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13:41.57dsl1232grub
13:42.05ajw05that should be easy then, hang on
13:42.06Valxxororand : tinyproxy is just closing after i execute it.
13:42.09dsl1232ok
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13:42.21Valxwhat i pasted is from the log file.
13:42.51ajw05if you get the files from: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
13:43.02ajw05(or wherever your best mirror is)
13:43.20ajw05save them on your existing disk somewhere
13:43.25ajw05in grub do
13:43.30ajw05root(hd0,0)
13:43.30dsl1232ajw05: i have lenny minimal businescard
13:43.36dsl1232ok
13:43.38Valxxororand : ps x doesnt show that it is running , doesnt even doesnt even freeze or leave a zombie app behind it
13:43.47Valxit just exists.
13:43.50ajw05(assuming it's the primary disk, 1st partition)
13:43.59dsl1232hda1,0 or how?
13:44.09ajw05grub has different syntax
13:44.16ajw05so /dev/hda1 becomes (hd0,0) normally
13:44.21dsl1232ok
13:44.27ajw05do "kernel /where/I/saved/vmlinuz"
13:44.53dsl1232wait second
13:44.56ajw05and "initrd /where/I/saved/initrd.gz"
13:45.00ajw05and then "boot"
13:45.10liable!ops please add in topic that there has been a point release to stable
13:45.10dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: please add in topic that there has been a point release to stable
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13:47.19adi1hi all anyone using epiphany browser in here?
13:47.21dsl1232ajw05: could i also just use the mini.iso from the netinstaller? it could load in ram and install on hd
13:47.33mirakhi
13:47.40mirakthe MAKE_OPTIONS in the rules file totaly overide any options in the original Makefile ?
13:47.44xororandValx: have you read the documentation for tinyproxy?
13:47.49xororandValx: especially the manual page?
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13:47.56ajw05I'm not 100% sure on that one. You might be able to chainload it from grub
13:48.17ajw05or you could mount it as a loopback volume first
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13:48.31ajw05and copy the initrd and vmlinuz images onto your normal ext2 disk
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13:48.37ajw05or ext3/whatever
13:49.00dsl1232damn
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13:49.18dsl1232i have only one partition o.o i'll be right back, i format it now
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13:50.27uglyare there any pH calculators available for Linux?
13:50.34sphenxes03Is there any simple GUI program to encrypt my whole partition in Debian?
13:50.39uglyhaving trouble filtering out the Windows stuff on google
13:50.55asgvirtual: /msg dpkg remove kde
13:51.00mikechelensphenxes03, there is an option during installation
13:51.25sphenxes03mikechelen, it is an external hard drive
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13:54.05Valxxororand , no.
13:54.32Valxreading stuff on their website now
13:55.33mikechelensphenxes03, check out gdecrypt, also there is encfs which is command-line, but very simple
13:55.49sphenxes03mikechelen, thanks
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13:57.05Valxxororand : checked the log file ? is that some software error or some simple thing caused by the config file ?
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14:00.48xororandValx: read the man page, and use -d
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14:01.02xororandthat will help for debugging purposes
14:01.11Valxxororand : doc = "This page will come soon."
14:01.15Valxgoes to the man page
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14:02.08Valx<PROTECTED>
14:02.12Valxi knew it
14:02.19Valxgoes to the config file
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14:05.18martin3zhi, can i add lenny repo to my system, if i have sid now and i'm dist-upgraded into sid?
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14:05.46cahootthen you've left the lenny realm
14:06.10martin3zwhat it means?
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14:06.25cahootthere's no going back
14:06.41martin3zwhy
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14:07.26boltmartin3z: because packages include a way to upgrade config files to new versions, not a way of going back. amongst other things
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14:08.23martin3zok, i understand
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14:09.34martin3zthats why i have missing dependencies for some packages, libart1.2, libgnome32 etc.
14:09.59boltprobably not
14:10.10boltthat's more likely because sid is in its usual broken state
14:10.23boltespecially common right after the release of a new stable
14:10.32boltwhich i do recall someone mentioning lately
14:10.50bolteither that, or you screwed something up. your choice :P
14:11.18martin3zi have missing deps for some packages
14:11.19liablebolt: but!!!! i have been using sid for 6 months and it has never broken for me!
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14:11.45theholyduckliable, you havent been upgrading much have you?
14:12.00theholyducksid breaks, get used to it
14:12.05theholyduckif you cant live with that, dont use it
14:12.15liablebeats theholyduck with a very big sarcasm stick
14:12.34theholyduckliable, its true for some people though :p
14:12.35KineticBugHow do I check hdd usage via CLI
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14:12.40liablei dont need preaching to, thanyou..
14:12.57zl2todmartin3z, there's a major kde upgrade going on in unstable/sid at the moment. There are missing dependencie which should resolve themselves as they make their way through the build system .... hang tight, it'll come right
14:13.05martin3zexample: i have libart-2.0-2 and libart2-ruby, but apt said missing libart1.2
14:13.09gravityAnd gnome. And xorg.
14:13.13gravity\o/ unstable
14:13.29liablegravity: will you add stable point release to topic please?
14:13.36zl2todgotta say it's been very stable for quite a while now ... no showstoppers anyway
14:13.42martin3zi'm upgrading to newest daily
14:13.45dsl749so, its me again... aw05: should i now download initrd.gz, vmlinuz AND boot.img.gz? i will download to /mnt/hda2/debian/
14:13.53gravityOh, if anyone cares, we're currently tracking major classes of bugs in the xorg transition at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable
14:14.04gravityliable: Not until an email goes out on -devel-announce that I can point to
14:14.36liablegroan
14:14.51gravityOr -announce I guess
14:14.58liablegravity: then wtf do the ftp masters release the thing without mentioning it anywhere?
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14:15.09Valxthis really sucks.
14:15.16Valxthe damn proxy doesnt want to work
14:15.19martin3ztheholyduck: ok, it's annoying but only a one while, i'll be using still, because doesn't matter much
14:15.26liablegravity:
14:15.34Valx...or im not knowing how to make it work.
14:15.34liablehttp://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2009/04/msg00016.html
14:15.45Valxmust be the 2nd one.
14:16.14gravityliable: Just be patient
14:16.15martin3zzl2tod: i know, i see big chages in repo day by day....
14:17.00liablegravity: its very annoying to try and explain why people are seeing large updates in stable that arent coming from security when its not mentioned anywhere.
14:18.42liablegravity: its great for you dd's to brush it off, like i just copped in d-devel, but users here are wondering what the fuck is going on.
14:18.47Valxxororand: please check this http://pastebin.com/d25c10fad
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14:19.01Valxthe damn thing isnt working , and the man page is worthless
14:19.04gravityliable: Stop being an ass. dd's are users too.
14:19.14martin3zbut, why package depended on libart1.2 can't be installed for libart2, for my it sucks.
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14:19.53gravityliable: The vast majority of whom don't have anything to do with the update.
14:19.54liablegravity: why cant you just mention it in the topic? its been released, its just noone has announced it.
14:20.11zl2todlet alone the madness of 150MB of openoffice for minor changes to a few files. But that's another story ...
14:20.33liablegravity: dont shoot me, im just the messanger. why release something and not announce it?
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14:21.06re-peatarent there a lot of colorfull metaphors in here
14:21.07*** topic/#debian by gravity -> lenny (debian 5.0.0) released!: /msg dpkg lenny | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | lenny updated. Announcement to come soon. | 4.0r7 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian/
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14:21.21liablethank you
14:21.53gravity"Why release something and not announce it"? I don't know. Why don't you stop being such an asshole and get help out.
14:22.11Valxhmmm
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14:22.43zl2todgravity, there's no need for abuse. He has a valid point.
14:22.43gravityBerating me is surely not helpful in that regard.
14:22.49liablegravity: why the hostilty? i mentioned the problem, you seem to think its not a big deal?
14:22.51gravityzl2tod: It's. Not. My. Fault.
14:23.00gravityNor do I deserve to be berated for it.
14:23.07zl2todyou abusive actions are exactly your fault
14:23.22liablegravity: i just asked you to announce it, i didnt berate you personally, i was putting a point across.
14:23.52gravityleaves
14:24.25liablethats sad.
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14:32.42liabletimes like these make me wonder why i bother with debian myself
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14:33.24cahootis there a liable alternative?
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14:33.31zl2todhehe
14:33.48liablethe liable jokes got old abut 4 years ago
14:33.48EmleyMoorAnyone else getting junk /msgs?
14:34.02cahootso so
14:34.02stewEmleyMoor: yes, it'll be gone soon
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14:37.01ValxWahahaha , all done.
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14:37.20Valxxororand , thanks for the help.
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14:43.06ajw05yes, you'll need all of those I think
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14:46.54martin54321how to find only hidden files from a folder? I used "ls -a | grep "\.*"" but it seems not to work?
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14:47.51mattsz_I installed a package named gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, how can I know where its exact path in my system?
14:48.07zinxdpkg -L gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
14:48.08dpkgii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base                 3.7-15.3           zinx's private porn collection
14:48.12martin54321This --> ls -a | grep "\.*"   finds files starting without a "." as well. What might be the problem?
14:48.13\amethystmattsz_:  ls -d .*
14:48.15asgmartin54321: find . -type f -name '.*'
14:48.50\amethystmattsz_:  because as a regular expression that means "contains zero or more dots"
14:48.55mattsz_thanks all, dpkg -L is what i need. :)
14:49.05\amethystoop
14:49.10\amethystmartin54321:  ^^^
14:49.15jpinxAny ideas on why I'm getting 2 versions of the truth here. I did ifconfig -v ath0 192.168.1.99 to get it fixed and out of the routers dhcp range, and subsequent ifconfig -v ath0 confirms the IP, but the router is still showing a pool IP for that box? Any ideas anyone please?
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14:49.45\amethystmartin54321: as a regular expression that means "contains zero or more dots"; you'd want "^\."  (starts with a dot), but it's easier to do   ls -d .*
14:50.14maligorjpinx, the router doesn't query devices constantly if they're still happy
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14:50.45jpinxmaligor: any idea what the time delay might be, a few minutes or hours?
14:50.49maligordhcp has a command to release the assigned ip, which would remove it I guess
14:51.00martin54321\amethyst: ok, but how to say "contains one or more dots at the begenning of the file"?
14:51.03maligorjpinx, probably hours
14:51.24jpinxmaligor: ok - thanks - I'll wait.
14:51.27\amethystmartin54321:   ls -a | grep "^\."
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14:51.57\amethystmartin54321:  that means 'starts with a dot'---anything that starts with two dots also starts with one dot, so you don't need to add anything to say 'one or more'
14:52.08Mac101wats the apt-get equivelent of 'yum list *'?
14:52.23jelly-homeMac101: what does it do?
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14:52.52Mac101say u want to list packages the start with ftpd u do 'yum list ftpd*'
14:52.54n-iCehi
14:53.10jelly-homeMac101: already installed, or any available?
14:53.10Mac101basically search
14:53.19Mac101either both ?
14:53.49martin54321thank you \amethyst: and asg: !
14:53.53adb!search
14:53.53dpkgPlease search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'.  Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'.  Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here.  '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>.  See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt, or <bot help>
14:54.04maligorjpinx, if I had to take a guess, it'd be 10-30hours
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14:54.23\amethystMac101:  aptitude search '^ftpd'   or  aptitude search '^ftpd~i'  (installed)   or  dpkg -l 'ftpd*'
14:54.54\amethystMac101:  aptitude uses regexps, dpkg uses wildcards
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14:55.02Mac101ok thx
14:55.06jpinxmaligor: ok - thanks - I'll do the rest of the setting up and finalise the portforwarding IP later/tomorrow
14:55.08Mac101a lot :]
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14:59.41Valxxororand , know of any socks5 proxy software like tinyproxy
14:59.44Valxsomething lite
14:59.49xororandssh
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15:00.11xororandit's not like tinyproxy but it's lightweight
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15:02.50Valxxororand ?
15:02.51Valxssh ?
15:03.14natsukaoplease read: http://gag-to-internet.blogspot.com/2009/04/gag-to-internet-digital-rights-and_11.html i think that is important to discuss about the censorship that are trying to introduce too in Italy i am sending the e-mailes to all the italian LUG of GNU/linux
15:03.45xororandValx: man ssh, search for SOCKS
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15:04.20Valxwill do.
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15:06.31jelly-homenatsukao: you want ##politics or #debian-offtopic; this is a support channel
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15:08.47Valxxororand : this is what your talking aboutthttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/ ?
15:08.59Valxhttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/ ?
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15:09.11cr3rzemjestcan u recommend cd burn application that can save iso images for xfce
15:09.24Valxman has something about      -D [bind_address:]port
15:09.26cr3rzemjesti mean not kde/gnome libs required
15:09.32Valxgod knows what the hell that is :P
15:09.43jelly-homeValx: -D is a socks proxy.
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15:10.17xororandValx: yes
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15:11.24Valxbut i've used ssh tunneling before and its uptime isnt that good
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15:11.34Valxthe established connection drops after some time
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15:13.15upIRCcr3rzemjest: Have you heard of bashburn? http://bashburn.dose.se/
15:13.26upIRCit works
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15:14.15burdthank goodness for fail2ban.. I've been under a dsitributed ssh dictionary attack for almost a week.. the bots rarely get past the SMAE first 4-5 names
15:14.31liableMaulkin: mind expanding on gravity's topic edit now you have nickserv fixed? noting a point release would be great.
15:15.05liablei didnt feel like pushing the point with him, seeing he appeared to be in a bad mood.
15:15.33Valxburd , yes fail2ban helps
15:15.35Valx..a lot
15:15.37Valx:)
15:15.52jelly-homesounds more like succeed2ban
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15:16.16Valxhmm
15:16.29Valxburd : know of any lite socks proxy
15:16.40burdwish there was a way to track down where the botherder is
15:16.42Valxsomething like tinyproxy but socks not http
15:17.03burdValx:not off hand sorry
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15:19.28myeggohello
15:19.42liablestew: same, see my message to maulkin
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15:20.09cr3rzemjestupIRC, omg do i need to be root to use this?
15:20.17Mac101hey could anyone got any idea why\what this wants me to do to fix it http://fpaste.org/paste/8841
15:20.25Mac101hey has*
15:20.27myeggoi know it could be songbirds issue, but they are not able to help me, so i beg here a clue or something. I have installed songbird in debian testing with gnome and i get this errors: http://rafb.net/p/Bi3Tf224.html - it works, but slowly, and when i press some button of songbird it is lagged
15:20.28myeggosome clue?
15:20.41cr3rzemjestupIRC, is bot/
15:20.42cr3rzemjest?
15:21.15upIRCno need for root. Only to install.
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15:22.22Mac101woops i just pressed alt+f4 and it dropped me into a shell how do i get back to the desktop lol?
15:22.32TheodenDistributor ID:Debian
15:22.32TheodenRelease:5.0.1
15:22.35cr3rzemjestupIRC, sorry i didnt have 'mkisofs'
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15:22.46upIRCso apt it
15:22.47liableMac101: f7
15:23.00upIRCYou will need some extra packages from the repo
15:23.19Mac101ah thx
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15:24.20cr3rzemjestupIRC, but installer didn't say that, i hope there won't be any errors during saving/burning, heh
15:24.34xororandburd: yes, the "intelligence" of those ssh brute force bots, or rather their writers, makes you think...
15:24.34upIRCno errors, it works perfectly
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15:24.56upIRCpossibly the best app out there
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15:25.42mario_hello!
15:26.07mario_what paclage do i have to install to get vim syntax support?
15:26.14mario_paclage=package
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15:26.58gravitymario_: vim-gtk or vim-gnome has it
15:27.07Valxxororand : dont forget bots like those that scan the internet get into lots of servers
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15:27.25Valxlots of people use passwords like "12345" you know
15:27.32mario_gravity: but i dont want the X files
15:27.40jelly-homemario_: just "vim" will do
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15:27.56cr3rzemjestbut still, it sucks that i have to umount, or eject manually, coz when i hit cdrom button it didnt open (ok i know its debian, but seriously, is there any well-integrated linux-based OS that could compete with windows in terms of ease of use, i dontthink so)
15:28.02mario_jelly-home: thanks!
15:28.04upIRCyou have to specify on the cl for syntax
15:28.13jelly-homemario_: the package named "vim", that is
15:28.30mario_jelly-home: i did no realize i had vim-tiny installed :-/
15:29.03jelly-homemario_: yeah, it makes people think debian's vim is crippled
15:29.04upIRCcr3rzemjest: suppose it depends on your ability and how easy you can adjust to things.
15:29.07burdwish I could get in touch with one of the owners of an infected machine.. have them figure out where they are connected to so I can go see who this is..
15:29.24mario_jelly-home: hehe, yes. Thats what i thought :P
15:29.33upIRCI think windows is a pain in the Ass tbh.
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15:29.48nootoyahorahello to everyone
15:29.56cr3rzemjestnvm
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15:30.30jelly-homecr3rzemjest: ubuntu has usability goals, I think
15:30.31Mac101hmm anyone decode this http://fpaste.org/paste/8841 ?
15:30.33upIRCcr3rzemjest: so hows bashburn going?
15:30.42nootoyahoraI'm using debian testing and since months I have been not able to see images or objects embedded in openoffice documents, in order to see them I have to make a pdf... what is going wrong? what can I do?
15:30.44upIRCIs it doing what you want?
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15:30.45cr3rzemjestupIRC, "/usr/lib/Bashburn/lib/burning/burning.sh: line 178: growisofs: command not found"... now i dont know if the dvd is still writable, or what? :|
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15:30.59upIRCso istall growisofs
15:31.01upIRCapt-get
15:31.06upIRCinstall*
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15:31.25upIRCthe DVD has even been touched yet, the files have to be cashed first.
15:31.32upIRChsn't*
15:31.35upIRCnvm
15:31.49jelly-homecr3rzemjest: upIRC meant the dvd+rw-tools package
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15:31.56cr3rzemjestjelly-home, thx
15:32.24jelly-home(it containg growisofs)
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15:37.38cr3rzemjestupIRC, do you know how to set speed? set 'speed' to e.g. '1' or '1x' ?
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15:38.31upIRCgo into configure
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15:39.02jetscreamerhey speaking of can't find X, how's it going, gravity
15:39.08jetscreamer:)
15:39.15liablehes a grumpy prick
15:39.19upIRCyou will have to configure it first, real easy.
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15:42.18jetscreamerthought you could specify that on the command line
15:42.44jetscreamer<PROTECTED>
15:42.56jetscreamerno []
15:42.58cr3rzemjestomg i dont get this, i dont have permissions to mount image as root, nothing is mounted, and when i hit 'burn iso image' nothing happens. there should be some dependecy check on installation. i think i'll be faster if i just download 50mb to install k3b.... or reboot to windows... but i still want to do this from linux
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15:43.22upIRCrelax
15:43.32jetscreamerlikes k3b, but isn't growisofs supposed to be setuid?
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15:43.39jetscreameror somelthing is
15:43.42vinc456Wow, after an aptitude-upgrade a huge batch (55 packages) can be upgraded. This seems a little unusual. Is there a special occasion for this?
15:43.58Polarinahasn't noticed a thing, yet.
15:43.59jetscreamerwhich flavor, vinc456 ?
15:44.12vinc456Lenny
15:44.29jetscreamer'probably' security updates but i've no idea
15:46.12ajw05there's been a point release to lenny today
15:46.30ajw05I just got the email on debian-announce now
15:46.35PolarinaWhy am I not getting anything?
15:46.36liabledont mention it, its a secret
15:47.02liableonly dd's are allowed to know about it apparently
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15:47.03ajw05http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00005.html
15:47.07upIRCI got updates alot. But thought I'd hold back.
15:47.24upIRCI thought it was strange
15:49.17cr3rzemjesti'm so filled with frustration because of all these X wrappers of this little command-line utilities that i could lecture on GUI design
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15:49.50upIRCI always found it real easy
15:50.03Mac101hmm anyone decode this http://fpaste.org/paste/8841 ?
15:50.20jintxomaybe somebody can update the /topic and pont to that announcement? it cuaght me by surprise too :-)
15:50.42jetscreamerit didn't start
15:50.49jetscreameror configure...
15:50.54bbelt16aghey whats the  init.d i got to  restart to restart my sound system in lenny 5.0
15:51.08jetscreamer/etc/init.d
15:51.12cahoot(as root) alsa force-reload
15:51.23jetscreamerwhat he said probably better
15:51.32bbelt16agok
15:51.34bbelt16agty
15:51.38jetscreamerhey you're on ubuntu
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15:52.50jintxoMac101, dpkg tried to start smartmontools and the script failed for some reason. try starting it manually to see if you get a better error mesage (/etc/init.d/smartmontools start)
15:52.50Mac101jetscreamer any idea why?
15:53.46bbelt16agty
15:53.46Mac101will do
15:53.46Mac101deamon: smartd failed
15:53.58Mac101promise i havent messed with abny scripts yet new install
15:54.12upIRCOh it smartd
15:54.13Mac101all ive done is apt-get update/upgrade
15:54.26jintxonow you just need to know why smartd fails :-)
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15:54.52Mac101:(
15:55.32jetscreamerwell it didn't configure so soulcn't start imo
15:55.36jetscreamercouldn't
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15:56.59Mac101should i remove and reinstall it?
15:57.08jetscreamerprobably wouldn't do any good
15:57.29jetscreamerwhat happens dpkg --reconfigure -a
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15:58.45Mac101dpkg unknown option reconfigure
15:58.45dpkgMac101: bugger all, i dunno
15:58.45jakuubanyoe
15:58.53gravityjetscreamer: I'm doing Ok. Just trying to work on shepherding the xorg updates a bit.
15:58.55jakuubwho knows something about CENTREON + NAGIOS, on channel centreon is nobody
15:59.25gravityliable: No, you're just an asshole
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15:59.30jetscreamerheh
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15:59.43jetscreameri upgraded sid last night .. weeeeee
15:59.48jetscreamereasy to fix though
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16:00.40jintxodpkg-reconfigure smartd and dpkg-reconfigure smartmontools after that, maybe?
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16:01.03gravityjetscreamer: Did X break for you?
16:01.07jetscreameryes
16:01.19jetscreamerdidn't upgrade xorg et al, just removed them
16:01.23jetscreamersome of them
16:01.41jetscreameri just installed xorg again.. same behavior for gnome-session
16:01.43gravity"some of them" being drivers?
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16:01.52jetscreameryeah all the vid ones didn't get installed
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16:01.59gravityAh
16:02.00jetscreamererr updated
16:02.12Mac101jintxo smartmontools is broken or not fully installed
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16:02.14jetscreamergot removed, reinstalling xorg pulled them in
16:02.20gravityWeird
16:02.23Mac101on dkpg-reconfigure
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16:03.00jetscreameri haven't tried to start gnome yet, but i did check out kde4.. very nice looking
16:03.16jintxoMac101, odd well since it doesn't work you don't lose much (other than about 30 seconds) by removing it and reinstalling it
16:03.44jetscreamerthe input drivers were updated properly
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16:03.49Mac101wil try
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16:04.06gravityCool. Some people have had trouble with the input changeover, but it's been mostly quite smooth there
16:04.45jetscreamermy biggest complaint atm is probably that i don't like the new kmix icon :)
16:04.58gravityTotally not my domain there :-)
16:05.11chordoggis there a way to change brightness on the console for a laptop?
16:05.12gravityWe've been having fun trading blame with the kde and gnome maintainers
16:05.34jetscreameroh and the console-common guy changed the default font
16:05.43jetscreameri think it's common
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16:06.03Mac101could changing the box hostman mess with a smartmontools startup script?
16:06.09Mac101hostname*
16:06.24re-peati'm using enlightement svn i manually installed ;D kde4 is weak
16:06.28Mac101remove and install didnt so anythin
16:06.37Mac101do anything*
16:06.40jetscreameryeah common
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16:07.05jetscreamerthere's a package, chordogg .... lemme look
16:07.11omg_onoezi need some hint on truecrypt compiling
16:07.11omg_onoezhttp://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=d5fd80089
16:07.20omg_onoez\=
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16:08.01re-peatmising wx stuff
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16:09.11jetscreameryeah apt-cache search backlight
16:09.45omg_onoezi have wx2.8-headers and some.. smth else installed here
16:09.47omg_onoezlol
16:09.52omg_onoezsry for my english
16:10.59re-peatthis help? https://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=102767&start=0
16:11.28omg_onoez/usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/ exists
16:11.54omg_onoezwith every .h, that are included
16:12.25jpinxdoes aptitude update only fetch the differences and not the actual updates?
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16:13.15jetscreamerupdate fetches the new list
16:13.22jetscreamerupgrade upgrades
16:13.31jetscreamerdist-upgrade upgrades even more
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16:13.48chordoggjetscreamer: seems like that works for X, but i need to set brightness on the console. hmm
16:13.56jpinxdoes safe-upgrade
16:14.45scientescan i use pam_unix password functions in my program?
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16:14.57scientesie have it give me back hashed passwords?
16:14.57jpinxupdate only gets a list, it's upgrade that actually gets the meat of the new packages then?
16:15.04jetscreamerright
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16:15.21jetscreamerand installs, w/o the -d or -tor so
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16:16.39jpinxyou were right jetscreamer - after doing ifconfig -ath0 192.168.1.88 it just hiccuped and continued the connection perfectly. I'm just waiting for the router to update it's DHCP table
16:16.47\amethystscientes:  do you mean to prompt for a password, to hash a given password, or to look up users' hashed passwords?
16:17.07scientes\amethyst, hash a password, that is not used at all in /etc/shadow
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16:17.55scientescause it has functions to specify how it was hashed which makes it where my program does not have to only use on hashing function and is future-proof etc
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16:19.00jpinxIs there a way to actually download the upgrades but hold them until I decide when I want them installed?
16:19.30\amethystscientes:  man 3 crypt
16:19.37jetscreamer-d i think
16:19.45jetscreamerfor apt-get it's -d
16:19.52jetscreamerman aptitude
16:20.00\amethystscientes:  you specify alternate hashes (like MD5, SHA-256, and SHA-512) by providing a specially formatted salt string
16:20.05jetscreamer/download only
16:20.07scientes\amethyst, i saw that but i dont think that can do sha1 sha-512 etc
16:20.10scientesahh
16:20.22\amethystscientes:  look under 'Glibc notes' in the manpage
16:20.27jpinxok jetscreamer Ive been rtfm's but nothing seemed to fit - I'll look again
16:20.28scientesok
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16:21.58jetscreameryou can apt-get -d
16:22.24jetscreamerthere is aptitute download  ...  i can't really tell that all it does it d/l, from the manpage
16:22.40jetscreameri would make that guess in private though
16:22.57jpinxjetscreamer: that was why I was asking. I'll try it next time and see what happens
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16:23.31jpinxis in the middle of a "normal" safe-upgrade.
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16:24.15jetscreamerhow would you pass this to aptitude? -o  APT::Get::Download-Only  ?
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16:25.39jetscreameras seen in aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss"  .....
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16:27.02jpinxyea - it might take something like that - I'll play with it when there is a something new to upgrade
16:27.38jpinxis looking at 1hr55mins to complete the current upgrade:(
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16:28.25jpinx64 packages to upgrade - mostly openoffice
16:28.42roadfishis there a Linux filesystem that provide redundancy ... like parchive files or CRC on CDs?
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16:29.36Polarinaroadfish: ext4
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16:30.20roadfishPolarina: cool thanks ... didn't even know there was an ext4
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16:31.22jelly-homeroadfish: not really; redundancy as a form of protection against disk failure is achieved at block device level (raid)
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16:32.13mavhczfs offers an option to make multiple copies of metadata and data
16:32.29jelly-homemavhc: right, but the context is #debian
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16:32.45jelly-homeand roadfish asked about Linux
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16:34.22jelly-homeI have no idea about what Polarina meant, though.  I'm not aware that ext4 introduced data protection.
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16:36.25roadfishjelly-home: I had heard of RAID in the past but always thought you had to have multiple harddrives to use RAID.
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16:36.36jelly-homeroadfish: you do.
16:36.46jelly-homethat's correct
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16:37.44roadfishwhat I'm looking for is for redundancy at a harddrive-wide level ... for extra-secure offsite storage. if I come back in 2 years and 5% of the data is corrupted, then I'm still going to recover the data.
16:38.17roadfishI know you can layer filesystems (if I'm using the write terminology). such as a an encryption layer on top of ext3.
16:38.36jelly-homesimplest thing to do is store 2 copies.
16:38.39roadfishso I would think you could have three layers: redundancy at top, then encrypted layer, then ext3
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16:40.09roadfishok, I guess no one wants to do what I want to do. so that's why a RAID approach will require you to have two copies.
16:41.05jelly-home(two at minimum)
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16:41.22Polarinaroadfish: The chances are 99.9999% that you'll have a failed spin up or a complete drive failure than few damaged sectors.
16:41.46jpinxI'm considering raid across 2 hdds on my laptop, does it copy the OS as well as data?
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16:42.08jetscreamerthat is data isn't it
16:42.32jpinxMBR is included?
16:42.41roadfishok, optical as another answer ... but optical media has it's own failure rates. I might want to look into the reliability of bluray ... research costs and usage on linux.
16:42.56jetscreamerwouldn't think so, no idea
16:43.03jelly-homejpinx: if you take steps for it to be, sure
16:43.24jelly-homeroadfish: most magnetic media (disks and tape) utilize some sort of error-correcting code at a very low level
16:43.38jpinxjelly-home: interesting.
16:43.42jpinxreads up more
16:43.43jetscreamerdrums are the new thing...
16:43.49jetscreamer:0
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16:44.13jetscreamer80hole punch cards are the wave of the future
16:44.47roadfishwell, the hanging chads did give us GW
16:44.59jetscreamer:)
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16:45.18jpinxdoes raid do partitions, or just physical drives?
16:45.25jelly-homejpinx: lilo and grub2 have support for raid1; as for grub-legacy, you need to install it manually one the second disk (in a simple 2-disk raid1 setup)
16:45.32jetscreameri actually had to learn how to read 80hole punchcards in comp sci
16:45.42jetscreameri guess they discontinued that
16:45.51stewjpinx: it does block devices,  it doesn't care what the block devices actually are
16:45.57jelly-homejpinx: md raid does both these days
16:46.06stew'9 edge, face down'
16:46.29jpinxcool - definitely going to get some raid going then.
16:46.42jpinxhunts for an idiots guide
16:46.54jetscreameryou might want to look at fakeraid vs real
16:46.58jetscreamer!fakeraid
16:46.58dpkgA term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq>
16:47.03jetscreamerknow the diff i mean
16:47.38jelly-home!software raid
16:47.38dpkgi heard software raid is commonly used to describe RAID facilities in the Linux kernel. This means that you can RAID with any disks, with no need for a "special" (read winmodem) hardware controller. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html also see http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html or see section 6.3.2.2 of the <ig>, or for SATA disks ask me about <sata raid>
16:47.59jetscreamerah here comes the rain... i don't have a ups hope the power doesn't go out
16:48.18liablestew: mind adding stable point release to topic?
16:48.38Spidajetscreamer: where are you that rain can kill your power?
16:48.51jetscreamerhouston
16:49.08Spidaus of a?
16:49.14jetscreamertexas
16:49.22jetscreamerunited state of texas, yes
16:49.25jelly-homejetscreamer: is that still a "yes"
16:49.45jpinxheh - the lone star state ;)
16:50.12Spidadidn't have a serious weather-related poweroutage for 3 years...
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16:51.25jetscreameryeah happens a lot
16:51.42mavhcit only has one star? out of 5?
16:51.54jetscreamerthere can be only one
16:52.01jpinxhasn't had a power outage for the last 2 years in Peru
16:52.20jpinxtexas is worse than Peru - that's quite something
16:52.24jetscreamerhey reliant energy doens't care about quality, afaict
16:52.39jamonhad a full day outage in -20*c weather here in toronto this winter
16:52.47jetscreamerswbell/att now, they rock for service
16:52.52jamonhalf the downtown (250k homes) were out
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16:53.35jetscreameri've still got trees leaning into the elec wires, left from the hurricane
16:53.37jpinxgoes back to reading up raid
16:53.56liablestew: ping
16:54.11stewliable: hi
16:54.24liablestew: see above please
16:55.29jelly-homehas just upgraded the home storage to raid1, running off a tiny arm board
16:56.11stewliable: just change r7 to r8?
16:56.29jelly-homeand 5.0.0 to 5.0.1?
16:56.34liablestew: 00:48 ::: Topic for #debian-devel: 5.0.1 released
16:57.05stewhmm, there aren't 5.0.1 links on cdimage.d.o
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16:57.14liablegroan
16:57.44liableexplain to people why the ftp masters have released r1 packages?
16:57.59stewftp masters don't do that
16:58.10stewwell i guess we do
16:58.17jetscreamer!enslave ftp
16:58.17stewbut there aren't cds yet, i guess
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16:59.01liableim banging my head why debian has updated stable, yet noone wants to mention officially because cd's havent been built. i got the same excuse when i asked on devel
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16:59.35liablebut people that actual use debian servers that run stable are wondering whats going on
17:00.13stewnothing has changed for people running debian servers
17:00.48liablestew: then why are they asking about large updates for stable not coming from security?
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17:01.15stewliable: becuase a bunch of new pakcages were just moved into stable proper
17:02.03liablestew: how does that work, and why does devel mention the point release?
17:02.04jpinxjust got an email notice of stables update
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17:02.32SLE|o_be_oneLove u ! (l)
17:02.38SLE|o_be_oneHi all :)
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17:02.56jelly-homestew: but there are new packages (from proposed-updates) that weren't on sdo; this confuses stable users
17:02.56SLE|o_be_oneWich dock is best to use on Debian Lenny w/ Gnome ?
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17:03.54stewliable: jelly-home: is there a factoid already created about the point release?
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17:04.25jelly-homedidn't do it
17:04.41jelly-home!listvalues 5.0.1
17:04.43dpkgFactoid search of '5.0.1' by value (1): point releases.
17:04.45liablestew: whats that got to do with it?
17:05.02jelly-homeliable: to put /msg dpkg foo in the topic, I guess
17:05.30liablejelly-home: how about "lenny 5.0.1 released"
17:05.51liableat least we can point to that to explain the unexpected updates
17:06.23stewliable: yes, is there something I can point to that explains the unexpected updated?
17:07.36liablei have asked a few times tonight and everyone seems to think im just being an awkward prick, i only point it out because stable users are getting unexpected updates that arent from security. its like some secret upgrade that noone wants to talk about.
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17:08.09jelly-homedpkg: lennyr1 is <reply>First lenny update, 5.0.1 is now available in the standard repositories.  CD images to follow.  Stay tuned!
17:08.09dpkgokay, jelly-home
17:08.09stewliable: i'll take that as a no?
17:08.11liablestew: i only noticed it because people here were mentioning large lenny updgrades
17:08.17jelly-homestew: there is now! :-)
17:08.17MaulkinSee debian-announce
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17:09.15stewdpkg: lennyr1 is also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00005.html
17:09.16dpkgokay, stew
17:09.22jpinxgot a heap of upgrades this time - not just security
17:09.22liableMaulkin: yes, and that mentions a point release..
17:09.35DeSianif you change the monitor and the old resolution don't fit under new monitor, how can you set the screen resolution again?
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17:10.20coderedhi
17:10.35coderedit's better raid 1 by bios or by o.s.?
17:10.37DeSianthat is xorg.conf http://paste.debian.net/33296/
17:11.12omg_onoezis it possible to add some integration for iceweasel in kde, so it could use kde dialogs, e.t.c ?
17:11.30liablestew: are you saying you dont know about this?
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17:11.41stewliable: about what?
17:12.06liablestew: a point release of stable
17:12.08stewliable: look, i'm very sorry that this is taking me SOO long to change the topic for you
17:12.15stewliable: i'm working on it
17:12.20stewliable: i'm just very slow at it
17:12.25liablerighto
17:12.44jelly-home:-D
17:12.45stewliable: i know how completely urgent this is, which is why i'm so furiously working on this
17:12.55tuvflash videos make strange sounds when firefox has been running for a while.. anybody having this problem? solutions?
17:12.55stewliable: i'm in the information gathering phase right now
17:12.58tuvonce i quit firefox and start it again, flash videos work fine
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17:13.18liablestew: why do you guys take this as a joke?
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17:13.47jintxocodered, if by "BIOS" you mean the BIOS of a SCSI RAID controller, then that's usually fine, if you mean those cheap raid things found on modern motherboards (also called fake raid), then it's better to go with mdadm and linux software raid.
17:13.54jelly-homewhy does liable not have /topic changing permissions?
17:13.57omg_onoezanyone?
17:14.01omg_onoezis it possible to add some integration for iceweasel in kde, so it could use kde dialogs, e.t.c
17:14.18coderedjintxo, yeah, I mean the "fake raid", so thank you for the answer!
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17:14.56stuckeyHello
17:15.06coderedjintxo, for now I've got only one of the two hard disk, can I put now some files and then activate the raid when I'll receive the second hard disk?
17:15.28stuckeyI'm trying to install nvidia drivers, the new version from sid; could anyone offer me some help? I'm using Lenny.
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17:16.36jintxocodered, you need to create the raid first, even if you do't have the second drive yet, and run it in degraded mode until then. never done it this way myself but it should work. you can't "convert" from a non-raided partition to a raid volume after the fact, I believe (but I'm no expert)
17:16.37jelly-homealso remove the "lenny updated. Announcement to come soon. | " bit plz
17:16.44liablei would be happy if i didnt feel like a fuckwit thanks to people i thought would have cared more
17:16.53coderedjintxo, ok thank you :)
17:16.55stewjelly-home: i updated it
17:17.02stewliable: as soon as you asked i started working on it
17:17.22jelly-homestew: yep, there's a redundant part in the middle
17:17.37stewok, i can update the factoid again
17:17.51jelly-homestew: yep, there's a redundant part in the middle of the _topic_
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17:18.07Maulkinliable: not calling people grumpy pricks would help us not think you're a fuckwit
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17:18.29stewjelly-home: thanks
17:18.33jelly-home\o.
17:19.07jamoncodered, jintxo, with raid1 I setup my /boot on /dev/md0 from preexisting partitions
17:19.15liableMaulkin: you obviously read the whole thread, i fail to see where i was in the wrong. I did not point blame at gravity
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17:19.38jamonjust changed the type with fdisk and ran mdadm --create with sda1 and sdb1
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17:20.10coderedok perfect
17:20.16jintxojamon, you do't lose data like that? nice, never thought to do that myself, I kinda just assumed I'd lose data if I did it like that, but never really looked in to it (no need)
17:20.32liableMaulkin: i have been around here for long enough to make the guess that he might have been a grumpy prick tonight.
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17:20.45jamonwith raid1 it is ok since they're just mirrored partitions
17:20.55jamoni wouldn't try with any other raid levels though
17:20.58jintxojamon, makes sense. good to know
17:21.13Maulkinliable: you have been here long enough to know how dimly we view personal attacks.
17:21.28jelly-homeMaulkin: what personal attacks?
17:21.29jamonand tbh, i'm not sure where things are booting from despite having md0 mounted on /boot (e.g. could be booting sda1 until the initrd is loaded)
17:21.31coderedso with mdadm --create the system begins the mirroring copying the preexisting data from the first hard disk to the second
17:21.40liableMaulkin: it wasnt a personal attack
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17:22.04Maulkin16:39 < liable> hes a grumpy prick
17:22.06SLE|o_be_oneWich dock is best to use on Debian Lenny w/ Gnome ?
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17:22.15jamoncodered: yeah create with just your one working partition
17:22.18jamonthen add the other to it
17:22.22lvhwhat do I dpkg-reconfigure to set my locale properly?
17:22.38coderedok
17:22.46ajw05@lvh locales?
17:22.49liableMaulkin: yes, isolating one comment can always be miscontrued into whatever you want
17:22.55lvhajw05: Perhaps, Ill check it
17:23.03Maulkinliable: And the rest of the log.
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17:23.28ajw05can't remember what priority the question is though...
17:23.52liableMaulkin: if you read the rest, i wasnt pointing anything to him personally, but dd's in general.
17:23.57jintxojamon, I believe recent versions of grub understand linux software raid (since like 2 years ago, maybe) so you're probably booting from the md device (check your menu.lst)
17:24.32Maulkinpoints at the words "he's". Not "they're".
17:24.46liableffs
17:25.06jamonjintxo: i think you're right, except raid0, it's always a bit problematic
17:25.09jamonbut soo fast!
17:25.15liablegreat, start picking on me for your lack of communication...
17:25.32jintxojamon, not sure about that one, but I did test "yanking out drives" and booting (without changing any grub stuff) when setting up the last couple of raids so it must be that way
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17:25.48Maulkin16:39 < jetscreamer> hey speaking of can't find X, how's it going, gravity
17:25.49Maulkin16:39 < jetscreamer> :)
17:25.49Maulkin16:39 < liable> hes a grumpy prick
17:25.50jelly-homeMaulkin: that happened after <gravity> liable: Stop being an ass. dd's are users too.
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17:25.58jamoncool yeah jintxo
17:26.25Maulkinjelly-home: and that makes it acceptable?
17:26.35jamonhey, so how about that debian gnu/linux thing?
17:26.46jelly-homeMaulkin: it makes it "liable didn't start it"
17:26.59Maulkinjelly-home: I don't care who started it.
17:27.10ItaciousUbuntu and Wine a ticking me off. I wish to try debian, but what distro should I get? I'm leaning towards testing. Thanks.
17:27.10Maulkingives up on this meta-discussion.
17:27.10liableMaulkin: that was meant as a comment amongst people i semi know, as i thought i semi knew gravity, who usually isnt a grumpy prick.
17:27.44jamonItacious: depends on what you want to do, start with lenny since it is very stable, use the lenny wine repository
17:28.05jelly-homeMaulkin: just make liable capable of changing the topic, problem fixed!
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17:28.29jintxoItacious, at this point, stable is best, as it has been released recently and there's not much difference in software versions between stable and testing. you can change in the future if you need to, but stable works best, generally speaking
17:28.48Maulkinjelly-home: That would involve giving him ops. Which I can't do.
17:28.49Itaciousok, thanks jamon and jintxo
17:28.49liablejelly-home: no, i must be demonised for pointing out that debian released a stable point release without explanation
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17:29.24jelly-homeliable: you just have to be extra polite, more than a random dd.
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17:30.09jelly-homeItacious: debian stable (lenny) won't have the newest wine though; you could use lenny but would have to backport the wine packages (which isn't really that hard)
17:30.37ItaciousHas anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like?
17:30.44epsilomhi, one question, how many time support have debian 5?
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17:31.05jintxoItacious, can you rephrase that? lol
17:31.16Itaciouslol
17:31.18Itacioushere
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17:31.24Itacioushttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9279/1237933078055.jpg
17:31.27asgepsilom: lenny will be supported until at least 1 year after squeeze releases unless squeeze+1 releases before that time.
17:31.39ItaciousI'm gonna print that quote into a t-shirt.
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17:31.54epsilommmm thanks asg
17:32.26dustybinis anybody here feeling the squeeze?
17:33.29asg!qotd237
17:33.30dpkg< Itacious> Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like?
17:33.43jelly-homesqueezes dustybin's ample moobs
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17:34.24Itacious<dpkg> Found that quote from stumbleupon.
17:34.46jelly-homeasg: but it's a paste quote from someone else!  Thus, not worthy?
17:34.47Itaciousbbl
17:34.52Itaciousthanks for the help!
17:34.59asg!forget qotd237
17:34.59dpkgasg: i forgot qotd237
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17:35.03jelly-homethanks
17:35.23jelly-homegotta keep up the good original work
17:35.31asgjelly-home: so it shall be written, so it shall be done
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17:35.43dpkg<rahul> god, this keyboard is getting icky
17:36.02stuckeyDoes anyone here know how to install nvidia drivers ?
17:37.08rgrDoes anyone here have experience of installing Vista onto a Debian system which boots from Grub? My first sata is an LVM so no room there. I have 100gig on my second sata drive free for vista (need it for PDA syncing). Can anyone advise on pitfalls?
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17:37.42jintxostuckey, last time i did it, it was a matter of running m-a a-i nvidia (m-a is module-assistant). won't work on sid for sure ...
17:38.02jintxothere's a debian wiki page about it, which I red beforehand
17:38.09stuckeyjintxo: okay yeah, I intalled drivers form sid (i'm using lenny) but now I can't remember how
17:38.15stuckeyI need to do this since there's new drivers 180.44...
17:38.19stuckeybut I can't remember how to do it...
17:38.25topgun21Any problem  I might be able to assist some one with?
17:38.26stuckeyI cna't use the guide, it doesn't talk about how to do this.
17:38.30stuckeytopgun21: Yes!
17:38.39stuckeyDo you know how to install nvidia drivers?
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17:39.12jelly-homeooh, new kernel.
17:39.14jintxostuckey, that's a trick question then, because the questin really is "how do I install version X of nvidia drivers on version X of debian"
17:39.30stuckeyYeah, I want to install version 180.44 on Lenny.
17:39.30asgrgr: Windows will basically overwrite the MBR so you'll have to boot a rescue cd to fix grub once that has happened.
17:39.32jpinxsees the upgrade finish at last
17:39.34jintxoversions seem to be quite important when speaking nvidia
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17:39.50jelly-homeooh, someone changed the dependency of module-init-tools, thus forcing a full-upgrade :-|
17:39.58rgrasg: have you done it?
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17:40.36jetscreameryou can fool lthe windows installer by changing the default boot drive
17:40.37asgrgr: not with vista, no but I expect it will be the same unless vista takes the initiative and wipes all your drives as a precaution.
17:40.55jetscreamerin bios
17:40.56stuckeySo anyone know how to install version 180.44 of the nvidia drivers on Debian Lenny? (The drivers are in Sid).
17:40.57rgrheh. I found some "howtos" which are incredibly inaccurate and airy fairy.
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17:40.58n3kl_Anyone know what happens when I have unreadable sectors on a disk?  Do they just get corrected?  Do they get banned from use and the data stored elsewhere?
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17:41.22asgn3kl_: try using badblocks to mark them as broken
17:41.48jamonstuckey: it isn't the debian way, but their download from nvidia's site works fine
17:41.51rgrstuckey: leave them unless you really need them.
17:42.00jamonstuckey: as long as you remember that if you get a kernel update, you need to rerun it
17:42.08jintxoI tend to agree with rgr
17:42.11n3kl_asg: then the filesystem will just work around them?
17:42.12rgrThe whole "debian way" and "nvidia way" is a crock of shit and confusion.
17:42.14stuckeyrgr: I want to test them.
17:42.18n3kl_Do I need to replace the disk at this point?
17:42.19rgrat your own peril.
17:42.25jelly-homejamon: also, upgrades of xorg/mesa packages will likely break it
17:42.26jetscreameractually you just have to replace one broken symlink
17:42.30jetscreameractually you just have to replace one broken symlink
17:42.31jamonrgr: no it isn't, the debian way works 100% of the time for me
17:42.35rgrI spent enough time looking at a full screen shell
17:42.35stuckeyrgr: I want to do it the debian way; I had installed 180.22 the debian way.
17:42.48rgrjamon: who cares? It didit for me and loads of others.
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17:43.04stuckeyjamon: Do you know how to do this "the debian way"?
17:43.08asgn3kl_: generally, the drive will up to a point. After that, all bets are off.
17:43.21rgrI have spent more time than i care to think about fixing nvidia install issues.
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17:43.52jintxon3kl_, also when a drive starts showing bad sectors, usually more bad sectors are on the way. so even if it works, it might be a good idea to start looking for a replacement
17:44.14rgrjamon: I would be interested in your fool proof debian way too. The Wikis seem way out of date and are very, very confusing.
17:44.43jetscreamerhas a foolproof nvidia way that he doesn't like to talk about since it's not the debian way
17:44.48n3kl_Alright, so it was smartd that told me about the bad sectors, but smartctl -H /dev/sdx, still shows healthy, is this information misleading because it does have bad sectors?
17:45.03rgrjetscreamer: dangerous. You can get banned from the group for mentioning that :-;
17:45.24rgrjetscreamer: also your system breaks come kernel update time.
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17:46.29stuckeyCould someone please tell me how to do this the debian way?
17:46.38jelly-homejetscreamer: what, like taking care of the libgl and xorg.conf by yourself after upgrade?
17:46.43xinguobserves that nmu'ing the debian nvidia packages with new upstream takes about ten minutes once you wrap your head around it
17:46.44jamonrgr: m-a
17:46.55xinguhas been doig this for years
17:46.57virtualwhat does it mean when in apt-get update I get hash sum mismatch ?
17:46.58n3kl_I love m-a
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17:47.17Polarinavirtual: It means you should panic.
17:47.33rgrjamon: m-a ? Is that it?
17:47.49jamonin thought, and indeed :)
17:47.52virtualPolarina no thanks, no panic for me :D
17:47.59rgrNot for many apparently.
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17:48.01xingudownload new pkg0/pkg2 files, set perms as 755, fix debian/upstream_info, debian/changelog, then use version-clean, configure, binary targets
17:48.24rgrjamon: so you have the exact steps? Is the nvidia one line? I will try it now.
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17:48.33xingubickedy bam, one shiny new package set.
17:48.35jamonwell that's unfortunate rgr, i have had exactly 0 problems with it, and play css in wine al th etime
17:49.01rgrjamon: so, can you tell me the exact steps and I will try them now.
17:49.13rgrClearly there are issues. A brief visit to google tells you that.
17:49.14jetscreamerdoesn't discuss nvidia in #debian :)
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17:49.17stuckeyWho was it that said they knew how to isntall nvidia drivers?
17:49.21brian17hello
17:49.28stuckeyjetscreamer: do you know how to install nvidia drivers?
17:49.28jetscreamerpoints at
17:49.34brian17how do i figure out which version of alsa i am running?
17:49.36rgrjamon: ?
17:49.48jamonrgr: i just use m-a a-i nvidia
17:49.52jetscreamerhttp://linux.hfds.com/files/n-i.txt
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17:50.25jamonm-a for wifi is great too
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17:50.45jetscreameroops didn't mean to post that url
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17:51.00rgrjamon: so start to finish is simply "m-a a-i nvidia"? Nothing else to install, compile or set up?
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17:51.26jamonrgr: nope, that'll download the source for the driver, build it against your current headers
17:51.41rgrand that will get LATEST driver too?
17:51.51jamonthe lastest driver in debian yes
17:52.05stuckeyThere's an easier way to do this I believe...
17:52.08stuckeyBut I don't know how to do it
17:52.35rgrjamon: the latest driver in debian? You seem to have missed the whole point about installing latest nvidia drivers.
17:53.05rgrWhich is why I was asking so intensely.
17:53.08jamonrgr: someone else pointed out that most people miss the point of why they think they need the lastest from nvidia
17:53.18stuckeyWhat's the point?
17:53.25rgrjamon: someone else has nothign to do with others wanting to use latest drivers.
17:53.37jamonexactly, like 0.01% fps increase, w00t!
17:53.46rgrAnd so latest drivers do not install perfectly with 0 problems for you either. The debian ones do and they are generally months old.
17:53.55stuckeyjamon: it could be better than that ... which would be important for gamers.
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17:54.07rgrjamon: wtf are you talking about? its nothing to do with fps most of the time.
17:54.31jamonso explain to me the exact nature of the *problem* that you're experiencing with the debian version then
17:54.48stuckeyCould someone just tell me how to install the debian version? I'd be really thankful.
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17:55.09jamonstuckey: i already said, it isn't the most reliable, but just download the file from nvidia and run it
17:55.16`Abohey, how do I configure the ftp server so other users cannot view other users content
17:55.35jamon`Abo:vsftpd has a chroot option
17:55.37virtualhow to fix in apt-get update when i get hash sum mismatch ?
17:55.45rgrYou seem to miss the point. And ONE of the points of SW is to test it and report issues back. There are many bugs potentially fixed including dual screen twinview issues, xinerama issues, opengl issues. The fact you dont understand or need any of that is not the point. So stop telling people YOU are ok and consider maybe they are not and THEY need fixes.
17:56.03`Abojamon, there was a command... cant remember it
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17:56.14jamonrgr: what is the problem you're having again?
17:56.47xingujamon: doubly amusing is that sid's package is current upstream stable release. ;)
17:56.58jamon`Abo: chroot_local_user=YES
17:58.09jamonxingu: well if someone's running sid, m-a a-i nvidia will work with 180.44 as well :)
17:58.40xingujamon: precisely ;) and if they're not, then a simple-backport is trivial for that package.
17:58.51`Abojamon, how do I get to that blue screen where it asks me either to allow users to view other content or not
17:58.56`Abothere was a blue screen asking that
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17:59.04`Abobut I cant remember the command to get there :p
17:59.32asg`Abo: dpkg-reconfigure -plow <pkg> (should work)
17:59.42jamon`Abo: dpkg-reconfigure will run pre/postinst scripts
17:59.50jamonwhat asg said..
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18:12.57mindeqhi all, i have installed oidentd with apt-get install , i have commented identd in inetd.conf , i'm sure no identd is running ... oidentd is running fine, but i still connect with ~ .. what should i do ?
18:13.48asgmindeq: did you HUP identd or stop it after making the change in /etc/inetd.conf?
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18:14.33mindeqi it isnt running ps -A | grep identd .. null
18:14.35n-iCewho knows a package to open multiple terminals in one window.
18:15.02asgn-iCe: screen though it depends on what you mean by multiple terminals in one window
18:15.02xingun-iCe: gnome-terminal; c-s-t
18:15.28asgmindeq: is inetd still running?
18:15.30\amethystmindeq:  you still need to kill -HUP inetd
18:15.36xingu(^T iotw)
18:15.40\amethystmindeq:  so that it stops listening on the ident port
18:15.46topgun21<PROTECTED>
18:15.55dustedn-iCe, screen is one of those unix tools that you simply can't be without in the long run :)
18:15.57mindeqk will try
18:15.58at0mn-iCe, what desktop manager do you use?  konsole, gnome-terminal, GNU screen.  screen does wonders with irssi and ssh
18:16.03\amethystmindeq:  (with inetd, the protocol handler doesn't execute until a connection comes in)
18:16.06n-iCeat0m: gnome
18:16.07dustybinwow
18:16.08dustybinhttp://groups.google.co.uk/group/comp.os.minix/browse_thread/thread/76536d1fb451ac60/b813d52cbc5a044b?pli=1
18:16.09n-iCedusted: windows then
18:16.13stuckeyHello, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers but am getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/33301/
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18:16.28n-iCeI want to open multiple terminal session in one window
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18:16.38\amethystmindeq:  also, if you're behind a firewall or router you need to make sure you let in connections to port 113
18:16.38dustedthat's what screen does
18:17.02dustedplus it can do a lot of other stuff too, that you don't need to know about if you dont want to use it
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18:17.15mindeqyes i have opened
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18:17.33n-iCedusted: at0m asg xingu like this http://www.tenshu.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/terminator-mad.png
18:17.42mindeqhm
18:17.47n-iCeand terminar uses other term
18:17.56n-iCeI want to use my GNOME Terminal
18:17.57mindeqbut strange .. when i type netstat -ln | grep 113 , i get tcp6 0 0 :::113 :::* LISTEN
18:18.01mindeqbut not v4
18:18.05asgn-iCe: oh, that's a window manager like ratpoison or ion
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18:18.22jamonstuckey: you have this package? http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-kernel-source
18:18.35n-iCeasg: both are gnome made?
18:18.51asgn-iCe: oh, nevermind, it is terminator as you said
18:18.59at0mn-iCe, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
18:19.04n-iCeyeah
18:19.07stuckeyjamon: how do I know?
18:19.26n-iCeso GNU Screen
18:19.29at0mdoes split windows too, tho only horizontally
18:19.41stuckeyjamon: here's what I have: http://paste.debian.net/33303/
18:19.45xingu!describe terminator
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18:19.45mindeqwhy do i get tcp6 is opened .. even if i don't have an ipv6 :/
18:19.55mindeqi need to make tcp4 open
18:20.01n-iCeat0m: is there a package with that name, couldn't find it
18:20.17xingun-iCe: clue's in front of your eyes, that program is "terminator"
18:20.24at0mn-iCe, apt-get install screen
18:20.24xingun-iCe: already packaged.
18:20.32jamonstuckey: if you are downloading .debs manually, you have to get that one i pointed out for 180.44
18:20.38n-iCexingu: I don't want terminator, as I told
18:20.40n-iCethanks at0m
18:20.57stuckeyjamon: Yes I have that one.
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18:22.19n-iCehehe
18:22.24n-iCeat0m: I don't get it :x
18:22.26jamonstuckey: and it is installed?
18:22.39n-iCegot a tuto though
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18:23.46Janoffhi which is the best linux video editor?
18:24.10at0mn-iCe, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/34
18:24.19jamonJanoff: highly subjective, some would say ffmpeg, some lives etc., depends on your needs
18:25.12at0mn-iCe, "dont get it" like it aptitude doesnt find it in the repositories?
18:25.30\amethystmindeq:  :::113 is any address... it's probably listening using AF_UNSPEC, meaning it picks up both ipv6 and ipv4 connections
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18:25.44mindeqperhaps
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18:25.50\amethystmindeq:  that how apache shows up for me, for example, and I can certainly connect to it with ipv4
18:26.00mindeqdo i need to change anything in oidentd.conf ?
18:27.01n-iCeat0m: I mean I installed it, but it switch between the screen
18:27.07n-iCeI can't have all the screens in one
18:27.10n-iCeor can I?
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18:27.54\amethystn-iCe:  try ctrl-a capital-S
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18:28.58\amethystn-iCe:  ctrl-a tab to switch to the other split region
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18:29.33at0mn-iCe, then Ctrl-a d disconnects, then type screen -x to resume :>
18:30.38\amethystn-iCe:  in each split region you can select a window to display: ctrl-a c to create a new window, ctrl-a n to have the current split region display the next window
18:30.54at0mthat's most basic eh, and dont expect you'll master it in 10 mins.  Ctrl-a ? displays basic help.
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18:31.33\amethystn-iCe:  it doesn't support vertical splits... you can do that in emacs if you really want, but emacs's terminal emulation isn't great
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18:31.47n-iCethanks guys
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18:35.59Janoffjamon, i need program where i can set nice crossings between clips and can put text showed during whole video
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18:37.32pozicHow do I run an X program as a different user remotely? I am root on this machine, but when I su to this user and then run the program I get that X11 refused the connection.
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18:38.12asgpozic: /msg dpkg sshx
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18:41.41stuckeyOkay so I'm trying to build nvidia drivers but module assistant fails... Anyone know why?
18:41.59ryanCHwhat is a good torrent app for linux?
18:42.09DustyDingoryanCH: rtorrent
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18:42.14DustyDingoit uses libtorrent
18:42.21ryanCHDustyDingo, ok
18:42.21maligorthere are several good ones
18:42.24DustyDingois curses based, so can run in screen
18:42.32pozicasg: If I do sux username and then run the application I want to run I get: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
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18:42.56maligorktorrent is probably the closest to uTorrent in windows
18:43.06DavidProck1981how can i burn a dvd iso with out any gui, and do a data check
18:43.17gigothe namei command gives really long outputs with each part of the path in one separate line. is there a way to condense the output so that I can just see the pair of soft link and targets in each line?
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18:43.24pozicasg: I ssh to machine X as user Y and then from that machine to machine Z then su to root and then sux to username.
18:43.26DavidProck1981and i need software / device buffer
18:43.42maligorDavidProck1981, wodim perhaps
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18:44.39DavidProck1981maligor will trhat work for dvd's
18:44.50wamtyanyone?
18:45.02DavidProck1981dpkg: i heard wodim is a DFSG compliant fork of <cdrecord>.  See http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ about the release notice.
18:45.03dpkgI think you lost me on that one, DavidProck1981
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18:45.21maligorDavidProck1981, yeah, it can burn dvd's
18:45.50asgpozic: are you using ssh -X for all hops? is X11Forwarding enabled on each server?
18:46.01pozicasg: yes
18:46.11maligorDavidProck1981, you mean checking the burned data or the iso?
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18:46.17pozicasg: When I just run something as a normal user it does work.
18:46.30pozicasg: it's only a problem when I run something as a different user.
18:46.31asghow are you suing to root?
18:46.35pozicasg: su
18:46.38pozicasg: not sux
18:46.54pozicasg: Do I have to use sux for that too?
18:47.00DavidProck1981burn the dvd iso file, then check if the burn went correctly
18:47.12asgpozic: not sure. Does it work if you use 'su -p <user>'
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18:48.19pozicasg: no, it doesn't.
18:48.24asghmmm
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18:48.41maligorDavidProck1981, dunno how you'd do the error check, never actually done it anywhere
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18:49.21DavidProck1981normally use k3b it does a data check if u tell it to
18:49.50DavidProck1981but for some reason k3b is running out of buffer when im burning
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18:50.47jintxowonders if you could md5sum the disc and comparing that to md5sum of the ISO would work
18:50.51maligork3b uses wodim I think
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18:51.19DavidProck1981it uses growisofs
18:51.27DavidProck1981something like that
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18:51.33jintxofor creating the ISO
18:51.37DavidProck1981my spelling might be wrong
18:51.51DavidProck1981for burning
18:51.52newfishhello...
18:52.37newfishafter i start gnome-session, why when i hit keyboard once, two characters show? thank you guys
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18:59.17pozicasg: ok, I succeeded by using sux multiple times.
18:59.23asgah, cool
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18:59.40pozicI still have a different issue: evolution asks for the password to the default keyring.
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18:59.49pozicI don't want evolution to use any keyring.
19:00.34pozicIt should just remember the passwords for the accounts outside of any keyring.
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19:01.28omg_onoezhow can i list all groups, wich cmd should i use?
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19:01.57jintxocat /etc/group (or to see what groups you belong to, just run "groups")
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19:02.06pozicI am only not sure what the name of the application is to configure this as it is not local I cannot just select the menu entry.
19:02.11omg_onoezthanks
19:02.19newfishhelp me...
19:02.31newfish*.*
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19:04.00topgun21Does any one know of a textbased web browser
19:04.36jintxotopgun21, most used ones are probably lynx or w3m
19:04.38DavidProck1981omfg wodim is a head-ake
19:05.09DavidProck1981i just want to burn an iso for the mac osx86
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19:06.23enyawixmadwifi-hal package?
19:06.28jintxowodim -dev=/dev/XXX my-file.iso doesn't do it for you, DavidProck1981 ?
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19:06.53topgun21thanks for the help jintxo : iam trying really hard to move away from the gui
19:06.55enyawixor should i just build from source?
19:07.09DavidProck1981would that use burnfree cause my buffer keeps running out
19:07.25DavidProck1981how can i up the buffer
19:07.45PolarinaDavidProck1981: When burnfree is used, it makes your disk a lot less tolerant to scratches and physical damage.
19:07.51jintxoDavidProck1981, it does on mine automatically. I'm no expert on the options, because it "just works" for me
19:07.59Azrael_-hi
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19:08.04newfishgnome-session, why when i hit keyboard once, two characters show? help me plz, i cant work now
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19:08.09jintxotopgun21, :-)
19:08.12DavidProck1981ok
19:08.20Azrael_-i need to configure pure-ftpd in standalone-mode for more options, how can i do this?
19:08.50topgun21jintxo: Wpuld you lnow of any good command line interface news readers?
19:09.09jintxoDavidProck1981, I think there's an option for making a "trial" burn without actually burning to see if it would succeed
19:10.44jintxotopgun21, when I was a cli junkie I remmeber using pine for nntp access. not sure if pine is available in debian cause it had a weird linense. I'm sure if it's not somebody else can suggest a good one (or google)
19:10.52newfishii  ccaann  oonnllyy  iinnppuutt  lliikkee  tthhiiss,,iitt''ss  tteerrrriibllee,,hheellpp  mmee  ppllzz,,tthhaannkk  yyoouu
19:11.14Eulexfix your repeat rate?
19:11.15sepult`newfish: try killing kaccess, or kdeaccess
19:12.12newfishsseeppuulltt,,ii  aamm  uussiinngg  ggnnoommee
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19:12.42jintxotopgun21, I also recall using slrn but this was quite a few years ago, so things may have changed
19:12.46sepult`search for mouse gestures and alike then
19:12.56sepult`turn off accessibility
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19:13.59newfishwwhhaatt''ss  tthhee  rreeaassoonn,,ppllzz??
19:14.04^goku^lamer?
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19:14.22nomadHi all, whats the syntax to install pterm ?
19:14.29Eulexnewfish, go into the keyboard settings, decrease delay until repeating starts
19:14.48^goku^wewe
19:14.49sepult`or if you have gpm running deactivate that one too
19:14.51SQlvpapir_nomad: use apt-get or aptitude install pterm
19:14.53^goku^cazzo
19:15.01Eulex!it
19:15.01dpkgCiao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano.  Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
19:15.15^goku^grazie
19:15.34pozicWhat's the name of the application that corresponds to the Encryption and Keyrings menu entry?
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19:16.21newfishEulex, thank you
19:16.30newfishi can work now ;)
19:16.37Eulexhehe ^^
19:16.41Eulexwhat caused it anyway?
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19:16.57newfish"only accept long keypresses" is checked
19:17.10newfishsepult`, thank you too
19:17.23sepult`newfish: how did you manage it ?
19:17.28sepult`newfish: waht caused it ?
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19:17.41sepult`gpm repeater ?
19:17.50newfishin accessibility of keyboard setting
19:17.53paul_I just upgrade hal in unstable and now it doesn't work, I can't uninstall hal because invoke-rc.d is giving errors
19:17.55sepult`ok
19:18.04sepult`accessibility is worse
19:18.08sepult`don't turn it on
19:18.13sepult`you don't need it really
19:18.23Eulex(unless you know what you're doing)
19:18.28newfishthere is a slow keys option, i un-check the "only accept long keypresses" option
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19:18.36sepult`yes
19:18.40Eulexpaul_, did you take a look in the bts?
19:18.40nomadOk does anyone know what this means?
19:18.41nomad<PROTECTED>
19:18.42nomadmake: *** [install] Error 1
19:18.44sepult`that one gave me headaches too once
19:18.46nomadI just installed pterm
19:18.49newfishi didnt do that, when i wake up this morning, it becomes bad..
19:18.56Eulex!wayc nomad
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19:18.56dpkgnomad: Why are you compiling instead of using aptitude?
19:19.00nomadIm trying to install putty by source
19:19.08Eulexwhy?
19:19.11paul_Yes, I should have done that before I did the upgrade, this is a known bug, but no solutions suggested so far
19:19.16nomadEulex, because i cant find a package for putty using apt-get
19:19.17sepult`make sure it's not started again automatically
19:19.49Eulexnomad, pterm is in oldstable, stable, testing and unstable. and it's in main.
19:20.03nomadEulex, nevermind i got it now
19:20.06Eulexif your apt sources are somewhat sane you'll _have_ it
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19:20.58n3klCan lenny install to a raid 5?
19:21.21fbhn3kl: hardware raid?
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19:21.40n3klmd
19:23.18fbhn3kl: oh, I've never used that :)
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19:25.38n3klMd raid is the shiz!
19:25.58pozicIs there a commandline program which takes any cd and converts it to an iso?
19:25.59jintxon3kl, it most certainly can but I'm not sure about booting from raid 5, so you can make a /boot RAID 1 with 1 hot spare that way you can have a RAID1 with 1 hotspare for /boot and then RAID5 for your data, or something like that
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19:26.17fbhn3kl: probably, my raid is done entirely by hardware and my OS only sees one disk :)
19:26.40jintxowhich allows you to have the same partition table for all 3 disks :-)
19:26.45n3kljintxo: so there are options in the di to use raid 5 for /?
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19:26.56newfishbtw, do you know any nautilus extension which can separate desktop into several regions?
19:27.03n3kljintxo: that sounds pretty promising
19:27.13pozicI already got it.
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19:27.18sharp15how do i know which of the files in /boot i can delete?
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19:27.23n3klI remeber that with etch, raid5 / was not supported in teh di, possible, but you had to hack it together
19:27.33n3klsharp15: usually none
19:27.33cinchhi all, has anybody had success with LTSP on Lenny?
19:27.42n3klsharp15: remove old kernels if you are running out of space with apt
19:27.48sharp15n3kl: how?
19:27.50jintxon3kl, you can most certainly create and install to raids during installation, yes. easier maintenance is if all 3 drives have the same partition table, which is why I suggest /boot/ being a 1GB RAID 1 with one hot spare. sorry, goota run for a while
19:27.57Jonathan_JLSYeah cinch
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19:28.08n3klsharp15: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
19:28.08Jonathan_JLSworks like charm
19:28.10Jester45pozic, try dd  somthing like dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/file.iso
19:28.15n3klsharp15: er, dpkg -l linux-image*
19:28.28n3klsharp15: make sure you don't remove ones you need
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19:28.57n3kljintxo: cool
19:29.31sharp15n3kl: i'm guessing it doesn't do this automatically then.
19:30.19pozicJester45: yes, I already said that I found a solution (the same one) a few lines above. Thanks, anyway.
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19:31.42n3klsharp15: well, depends on you are adding kernels.
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19:32.20sharp15n3kl: it just tried to add a new one and filled /boot.
19:32.30n3klsharp15: how big is /boot?
19:32.55sharp15n3kl: 83MB.
19:33.08n3klsharp15: do you have a lot of kernels installed?
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19:34.14sharp15n3kl: for some reason i seem to have 9 packages with "linux-image-2.6.x" in them.
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19:35.08sharp15is there a way to tell what depends on a package.  just so i know what will break if i remove those packages?
19:35.21n3klsharp15: some are virtual packages
19:35.25sharp15well, the unnecessary packages.
19:35.27n3klsharp15: meaning, they point to other packages
19:35.39poisonbitsharp15, probably you have the metapackage linux-image-2.6-arch instaled
19:35.45sharp15and how do i know which ones those are?
19:36.10poisonbityou can purge all linux-image-2.6.Version except the one that match whit uname -a
19:36.47sharp15poisonbit: i have "linux-image-2.6-{486 686}" installed.  i assume that is what you're reffering to.
19:37.12enoufthose are metapackages
19:37.14poisonbityes, they are empty packages, that depends on the last kernel for that arch
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19:37.36sharp15any reason i would have both 686 and 486?
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19:37.52enoufsharp15: removing them is not recommended .. you will not get the latest kernel revision when you upgrade within the release
19:37.58n3klsharp15: do a uname -a, find out what you are running now, then remove the one that you are not
19:38.03poisonbitso when kernel is patched (for example security patches) you get the last version
19:38.03enoufyes, -486 was used during installation
19:38.20sharp15enouf: i wasn't going to remove those.  i was just making sure i shouldn't remove them.
19:38.38enoufyou upgraded and got -686 which means your CPU is better than a p-pro
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19:38.51enoufsharp15: the -486 one you can remove
19:38.55n3klsharp15: I have a few system that are actually 686, but the 486 gets installed when the system is built.  Manually installing the 686 and booting it, then removeing the 486 kernels manually is necessary for me
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19:39.54poisonbitsharp15, what you can purge is "linux-image-2.6.version" and about "2.6-arch" let the 686 and purge the 486
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19:40.35poisonbitand about "2.6.version" you only need the last version
19:40.36sharp15ok. there is way to much included on /boot.  i cleaned out 2 ancient kernel versions and retrieved 22MB.
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19:41.38enoufit's not too much if they (the vmlinuz + initrd + system.map versions) serve a purpose
19:41.53poisonbitsharp15, when purge kernels, also look at /lib/modules... sometimes it isn't deleted properly
19:42.11CutMeOwnThroathooray,22mb
19:42.21enoufit's /lib/modules/$KERNVER
19:42.47poisonbityes
19:43.51poisonbitfor example if you have edited /lib/modules/$KERNVER/modules.alias ... then apt will leave the dir undeleted
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19:44.21delamanif i have a dedi server with debian and i need the / bigger, how do i go about doing that?
19:44.30enoufshould not be a need to ever edit that file .. or very rare
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19:44.55enoufdelaman: using ext2/3 for / ? man resize2fs
19:45.05sepskidelaman, if you have root on lvm you can easily grow the volume and filesystem
19:45.26sharp15thank you. the last reboot didn't kernel panic due to module problems. :)
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19:45.41enoufdelaman: naturally the partition would need to be grown prior to growing the FS
19:45.43H4ck3rHi, what is the consequence of allowing creating file owned by root/root?
19:45.58delamansepski: how do i check if i have lvm on the server?
19:46.00sepskidelaman, if you do not use lvm you can still resize using a tool like gparted boot iso. Or the even more easy way would be to split out a thing like /usr or /home on a separate partition
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19:46.19sepskidelaman, mount would tell you.
19:46.23enoufindeed
19:46.35enoufdf -hT too i'd imagine
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19:46.57sepskiindeed it would
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19:47.48poisonbitdelaman, lvdisplay
19:48.16poisonbitdelaman, anyway... first step before any resize... full backup  ;-)
19:48.26delamanit is ext3 for /
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19:48.54enoufthat's FStype, not Disk partition/manager type
19:49.10enouf!lvm
19:49.10dpkgextra, extra, read all about it, lvm is the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/).  Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/  IRC: #lvm @ irc.freenode.net.
19:49.15sepskidelaman, what device ?
19:49.26delaman/dev/hda1
19:49.33enoufrighto, no lvm
19:49.34sepskidelaman, then you do not have lvm
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19:49.52enoufit would be /dev/mapper/ or similar
19:50.00delaman:( , its a remote server so how do i change the size of / ?
19:50.08sepskimake a /usr /home or /var or whatever you fancy a new partition.
19:50.09enoufwe told you
19:50.20poisonbitdelaman, do you have /var into / or in a separate partition ?
19:50.22sepskidelaman, or optionally use a gparted boot iso.
19:50.47delamanpoisonbit: its only / and /home
19:50.52enoufyou need free space after /, then resize the partition (/dev/hda1), then grow the FS, resize2fs
19:50.54poisonbitapt-get clean ?
19:51.19delamanpoisonbit: tried it, my / is only 3GB thats how the server company set it up
19:51.25enoufyou might need to shrink hda2 if it exists
19:51.25poisonbit:-S
19:51.38enoufif hda2 is an EXT'd partition, have fun :-P
19:52.03poisonbitare you using /home for something?
19:52.14delamanpoisonbit: not really its usesd up 1%
19:52.22sepskidelaman, do you have anything in /home ? i would reuse that partition  as a lvm volume, and make /usr /var /home  separate lvm volumes
19:52.37poisonbityes, do what sepski says
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19:52.46sepskiand only make them as large as you need, so you can grow them as needed ?
19:53.05sharp15there was a way to install nvidia-legacy before the package made it into kernel proper.  anyone remember what it was and how to undo it?
19:54.23delamanok i will do that
19:54.23sepskidelaman, is it lenny ?
19:54.24delamanno etch
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19:55.03sepskidelaman, then i would use the resize_inode,dir_index options  when you make ext3, so you can grow the volume without a need to unmount it
19:55.07sepskiand i would upgrade :)
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19:56.37sepskithose are default in lenny iirc
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19:57.55sepskidelaman, and you should ofcourse consult the manpage before doing so. never trust the advice of madmen on irc :)
19:58.15delaman:-D
19:58.33poisonbit:)
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19:58.53CutMeOwnThroatwhat... why not?s
19:59.21CutMeOwnThroatisn't that kind of the internet equivalent of "what somebody told me in a pub"?
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19:59.47poisonbitwhy debian wiki, hasn't namespaces or a convention for article names, more strucutred that CamelCases ?
20:00.12poisonbitI see a bit of chaos
20:00.21sepskiexactly, and you do not trust your job/head/ass/remote server/ to advice overheard in a pub
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20:00.41mihael-rootHello everyone!!!
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20:00.55CutMeOwnThroatof course! you can always trust what someone told you in a pub!
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20:01.09mihael-rootWhat is the speak languadge in hear?
20:01.21gravitymihael-root: English
20:01.30CutMeOwnThroatenglish or gibberish
20:01.53mihael-rooto, it's cool =)
20:02.02mihael-rootI am from Ukraine =)
20:02.19Jonathan_JLSbut no chinglish ?
20:04.01mihael-rootwho use sawfish for the wm ??
20:04.06mihael-rootneed help
20:04.17dustybinmihael-root: you do realise you shouldnt be using IRC as root user?
20:05.53mihael-rootwhy?
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20:06.16dustybinmihael-root: because i could remove you with a little shell script :P
20:06.24\amethystmihael-root:  because then a bug in your IRC program can allow people to take over your entire computer
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20:06.54mihael-roothmm
20:07.19mihael-rooti think that you can not do that
20:07.26\amethystmihael-root:  the principal reason Linux has a reputation for being more secure than Windows is that the culture does not approve of running thing with administrator privileges
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20:08.16ludanhi guys
20:08.17mihael-rooti know
20:08.20mihael-rootbut
20:08.22oivoodooHi, everyone. I have one problem with http proxy in console program. I set http_proxy via "export http_proxy=http://192.168.0.100:8080". But when I start to work with my ruby application. That's try to open connection. I receive timeout. May be you can know about the problem? or help me? Thanks.
20:08.28ludanafter the last dist-upgrade in sid, everything is a mess
20:08.38ludanI've got a mix of kde3.5 and kde4
20:08.53ludanand a lot of programs do not work properly anymore :(o
20:08.59ludani.e. k3b
20:09.13ludankmix as well
20:09.23ludanhow to fix this?!
20:09.23poisonbitoivoodoo, try HTTP_PROXY (uppercases)
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20:09.57cinchthats right, most people run windows as admin -.- at least with xp, vista has improved i think
20:10.01mihael-rootnow i use xchat in wm (don't root mode)
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20:10.40mihael-rootbut i think you can not do what you sayd
20:10.47mihael-rootdeal ?
20:11.14mihael-rooti will run irssi in root mode
20:11.16oivoodoopoisonbit, not work(. Then I try to test via "ping http://www.googe.com" but not work
20:11.33mihael-rootand you will hack me, ok?
20:11.44poisonbitoivoodoo, ping is ICMP, not HTTP over tcp  ;)
20:11.45CutMeOwnThroatdon't be a bore
20:11.50oivoodoo)
20:12.07cinchludan, not sure the best way to fix it.. you can always reinstall ;) did u add experimental packages for kde4?
20:12.27ludancinch: no I didn't
20:12.36ludancinch: how should I do that?
20:13.03cinchno dont do it.. i was wondering how u got kde4, i thought u need packages from the experimental branch for that
20:13.40CutMeOwnThroatwhich you are probably right with :)
20:13.45CutMeOwnThroatand... it's sid
20:13.53CutMeOwnThroatwhat do you expect from sid...
20:13.55oivoodoook, I try to use lynx. And that's ok. Thanks)
20:13.59poisonbitoivoodoo, also... forget my about upercases, it is http_proxy
20:13.59CutMeOwnThroatever seen toy story?s
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20:14.27mihael-root:)
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20:14.49cinchok so kde4 is in sid by now
20:16.02mihael-rootCan i come into this channel from 2 different clients but from 1 ip??
20:16.13poisonbityes
20:16.34streunerin freenode it isnt a problem
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20:16.37poisonbitmihael-root, but you will need 2 nicknames
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20:18.01mihael-rootCannot join channel #debian (You are banned) =)
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20:18.23cinchlol i got that aswell today, setup a nickname
20:18.28mihael-rootit strange...
20:18.40streunermihael-root: what IP?
20:18.53streunermihael-root: what nick or host?
20:19.06cinchprolly cause you're trying to enter as guest, register a new nick
20:19.09mihael-rootrootmode_mihael
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20:19.57acode_when I try to 'apt-get install libmysqlclient15-dev' i get an error about unmet dependencies:  libmysqlclient15-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient-dev (>= 5.1.33-0.dotdeb.1) E: Broken packages. What can I do about this?
20:20.10n3klacode_: apt-get update
20:20.14acode_already did
20:20.15tolecnalX-^-Girl is a auto join spammer
20:20.16CutMeOwnThroathe'3s trying to join with the nick 'root'3
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20:20.34acode_E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
20:20.39fisxojanyone know about dbus now working well on updates from sid?
20:20.40acode_on apt-get update
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20:22.08jpinxacode_: you're better off using aptitude
20:22.09streunertolecnal: dpkg, ops <somenick> spams us with pr0n
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20:22.44streuneroh, some staffer just helped us, thanks.
20:23.10CutMeOwnThroatcould have made an exception for porn :.-/
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20:23.23streunerwe have enough :-P
20:23.43gigoI got X-^-Girl banned. she was sending me porn links whenever I joined this channel.
20:23.44virtualI got lguest error, zlib.h no such file or directory while compiling the kernel
20:24.01streunergigo: problem solved, already k-lined
20:24.02virtualinstalling zlib1g-dev will solve this ?
20:24.04acode_jpinx: im not familiar with it
20:24.27jpinxacode_: it's very similar to apt-get, but works better
20:24.37jpinx!tell acode_ about why aptitude
20:24.40poisonbitvirtual, aptitude install build-essential kernel-package
20:25.01CutMeOwnThroatstreuner, where!? Am I missing a repository?s
20:25.30virtualpoisonbit i did that before begining the compilation of course
20:25.41acode_jpinx: so if i say aptitude install  libmysqlclient-dev, thatll work? ;)
20:25.46CutMeOwnThroathehe, under GPL you would be allowed to modify it as you like :)9
20:26.03acode_jpinx: actually i get the same problem
20:26.23cinchexcept if ur in a company, and cant release it ;)
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20:27.01dustybinCutMeOwnThroat: would you mind changing your nick, i find it deeply disturbing
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20:27.12martian67!tell acode_ about why aptitude
20:27.24martian67!why aptitude
20:27.24dpkgaptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies.
20:27.25martian67oops
20:27.30acode_shrug ive already been told.
20:27.37martian67sorry
20:27.44martian67i didnt mean to send it to you ;)
20:28.24acode_This just gives me a new question: when I say ' aptitude install  libmysqlclient-dev' then  it says  libmysqlclient-dev: Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not installable, ive done aptitude update and it still doenst work
20:28.30cinchwhen does aptitude purge packages? is there a setting to tell it to automatically purge on uninstall?
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20:28.54poisonbitaptitude purge packagename
20:29.10cinchyea but thats a hassle to always type :p
20:29.13poisonbitis something like apt-get remove --purge packagename
20:29.14jpinxacode_: check your sources list then
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20:29.26jpinxit might be non-free or somethig
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20:29.56cinchi mean within aptitude when i remove a package, it should purge aswell
20:29.58jpinxacode_: what version are you running?
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20:30.18jpinxcinch: yes - if you want to remove it cmpletely
20:30.24acode_im running version 4
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20:30.41jpinxacode_: what does uname -a tell us?
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20:30.53acode_why does this matter?
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20:31.06acode_Linux debian 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Fri Jun 6 22:22:11 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
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20:31.25cinchjpinx: how does aptitude do it? or does it purge only on the cli with "purge packagename"
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20:31.29jpinxjudd: versions  libmysqlclient-dev
20:31.30juddjpinx: libmysqlclient-dev -- experimental: 5.1.33-1
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20:31.53jpinxacode_: it would appear that you have a mix of packages in there
20:31.55gigowhich package in Debian has GNOME Do
20:32.05acode_jpinx: thats bad?
20:32.15jpinxcinch: apitiude does it better
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20:32.26jpinx!tell cinch about why aptitude
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20:32.39acode_well the problem is I need to install the mysql driver for ruby but it wont let me without libmyqlclient...
20:32.40jpinxacode_: paste your sources.list
20:32.53jpinxjudd: versions ruby
20:32.54juddjpinx: ruby -- etch: 1.8.2-1 lenny: 4.2 sid: 4.2 squeeze: 4.2
20:33.03acode_jpinx: http://pastie.org/444457
20:33.18craigevilgigo:  gnome-do
20:33.36acode_judd: versions ruby-mysql
20:33.37juddacode_: ruby-mysql --
20:33.44jpinxacode_: that is a major mess
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20:33.52cinchi use aptitude, but i want to purge by default when i remove a package, without typing "purge packagename", just wondering if that works (goes to read the docs)
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20:34.04acode_jpinx: help me clean up then..
20:34.14jpinxcinch: get in the typing practice ;)
20:34.22cinchlol dang
20:34.33martin54321is there a command line screenshot utility, which can make screenshot only of a active window? i tred with scrot, but it looks to lack such functionality. Any ideas?
20:34.35martin54321*an
20:34.37martin54321*I tried
20:35.06jpinxacode_: you have everything in there bar windows :p
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20:35.22acode_jpinx: huh?
20:35.24cinchhave u tried imagemagicks import?
20:35.25acode_bar windows?
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20:35.34streuner!ss
20:35.35dpkgTo take a screenshot of your current desktop, you can probably just hit the "PrintScreen" key on your keyboard (Gnome and KDE).  Alternatives include ksnapshot, gnome-panel-screenshot, the Gimp's "Acquire->Screenshot", "import -window root screenshot.jpg" (imagemagick package), scrot (scrot package), xwd.  For framebuffer consoles, use fbgrab.
20:35.38jpinxacode_: what version of debian do you *really* want to run?
20:35.46acode_just 4
20:36.08streunerhm, etch then?
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20:36.19jpinxacode_: ok - comment out all lines in your sources.list that say anything other than stable
20:36.24jpinxOoops
20:36.35jpinxyou said 4?
20:36.37streuner!etch
20:36.38dpkgEtch is the code name for the previous stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007.  Etch security support will continue until about February 2010; now is the time to start planning your upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>.   Also ask me about <oldstable>, <oldstable security>, <install etch>, <etch release notes>.  Currently <4.0r8>.  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch
20:36.40jpinxthat's etch
20:36.45jpinxsheesh
20:37.23cinchwow didnt know oldstable gets updates that long..
20:37.40jpinxok acode_ you're in for a fair bit of tidying up here. Make a decision now about what version your going to need for the next 6 months
20:37.43streuner1 year after lenny
20:37.49streunerrelease
20:38.13acode_well, lets say I update to the newest version now. How much work is that and what is the risk of booting up etc? its a remote box
20:38.15CutMeOwnThroatone of the nicest messes I've seen in sources.list in some time - and that includes my own!
20:38.18jpinxthanks for the poke streuner -I just assumed he was on stable 'cos that's what his sources list says
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20:39.11jpinxacode_: take stock then - your sources.list says stable (5 aka lenny) but you say 4 (oldstable aka etch)
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20:39.28CutMeOwnThroatit also says unstable and experimental, though
20:39.35jpinxand you have managed to include experimental and unstable in there as well
20:39.36CutMeOwnThroatno wonder dpkg borked
20:39.46jpinxas I said - everything bar windows 7 :p
20:39.50CutMeOwnThroat"dis cannot workz"
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20:40.02acode_well i did that because the packaging system wouldnt allow me to install some packages i needed for some dev..
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20:40.09jpinxacode_: in your place I'd open a beer and think a bit
20:40.20ray66How to change verbose script to silent at boot
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20:40.32CutMeOwnThroatand I'm not even sure what "stable all" does
20:40.41jpinxacode_: I get the impression that you maybe should stick with current stable - what do you reckon?
20:40.44acode_well lets say I update everything to the newest stable....how much work is that required?
20:40.49CutMeOwnThroatjpinx, s/beer/coffee/
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20:41.06cinchray66: redirect stdout and stderr to /dev/null
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20:41.12acode_ok got the coffee gong
20:41.15acode_going*
20:41.21jpinxacode_:  current stable is good - been out a while now and hasn't fallen over - hence the name "stable" ;)
20:41.37CutMeOwnThroatacode_, that's not really enough if you already got current unstable packages mixed in
20:41.42acode_so lets assume thats what Im going for, where do I go from here(hypothetical)
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20:41.52acode_how can I check that?
20:42.05jpinxacode_: comment out all line in your sources.list that refer to unstable and experimental
20:42.08acode_done
20:42.24jpinxaptitude update
20:42.35acode_updated sources list: http://pastie.org/444457
20:42.51jpinxacode_: note the use of aptitude - much better at sorting out a mess like this
20:42.55acode_ok
20:43.04acode_done with aptitude update
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20:44.12jpinxacode_:  cool - now do dpkg -l > pre-upgrade.package.list
20:44.26acode_in the sources list there is a "deb http://packages.dotdeb.org stable all" now, should i remove the all?
20:44.29ray66cinch: Thanks for the info
20:44.38cinchyw
20:44.47jpinxthat'll give you a record of what's currently installed for us later
20:45.08acode_done
20:45.25jpinxacode_: yea - comment out the deb-src line for now
20:45.30adb!tell acode_  about source
20:46.05adband change stable with lenny
20:46.38jpinxacode_: what adb said ^^
20:46.50jpinxchange stable into lenny throughout
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20:47.02adb!tell acode_  about sources
20:47.36CutMeOwnThroatthat doesn't matter
20:47.45betzDoes someone know if i can backup mysql db's by backup the /var/lib/mysql folder and putitng it back? Will this work?
20:47.45CutMeOwnThroatas does the src line
20:47.59acode_ok updated sources list: http://pastie.org/444457 does it look right now?
20:48.02CutMeOwnThroatwhy do you tell him stuff that is of no consequence?!
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20:48.54jpinxacode_: just comment out the deb-src lines for now - you can reinstate them later if you need to (unlikely)
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20:49.10acode_done, i also changed the stable to lenny
20:49.15acode_in every line
20:49.31acode_are there any risks involved in this procedure?
20:49.42adbwrong line : deb http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/debian/ lenny maindeb-src
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20:50.07acode_adb: i thought u wanted me to change to lenny every where it said stable
20:50.24acode_adb: and change stable with lenny
20:50.32jpinxacode_: there's always risks, but I got a remote server from sarge (pre-oldstable) up to lenny (stable) without manual intervention
20:50.42adbyes ,  but line 1 and 2 are wrong
20:50.51acode_ok i change line 1 and 2 back to stable
20:51.24acode_adb: http://pastie.org/444457 better?
20:51.40adbno
20:51.51jpinxslow down acode_ my connection is too slow...:(
20:52.13acode_adb: ok which lines are wrong?
20:52.15acode_jpinx:
20:52.24adbread up
20:52.53jpinxacode_: you've got some lines mangled now - every reference to "deb..blah blah should be the start of a new line
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20:53.35acode_they do, its just my pasting
20:53.37jpinxacode_:  so this deb http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/debian/ stable maindeb-src http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/debian/ stable main   --  should be 2 lines
20:53.50deadbeefhi guys, i'm using debian squeeze; i did an aptitude upgrade and everything on my system was screwed up: had to manually load modules for sound, touchpad & audio; what has been changed and how to restore previous settings?
20:54.24jpinxok - acode_ maybe you could use pastebinit
20:54.39acode_http://pastie.org/444457
20:54.41acode_ok?
20:54.44acode_the two lines
20:54.55adbacode_: http://pastie.org/444476
20:55.08acode_ok thanks adb
20:55.18adbuse only this
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20:56.25acode_adb: ok i did an aptitude update and this is what i get: http://pastie.org/444477
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20:57.41jpinxgo for it kiwi ;)
20:57.43adbah those Packages ...
20:58.16GryflhaseHI. what features does openchrome in lenny support, expect 2-d acceleration ?
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20:58.56acode_adb: what can I do about this?
20:59.19adbignore it
20:59.40acode_ok
21:00.09jpinxadb: remember he is on a remote server and no hands to reboot
21:00.19acode_jpinx: ok so ive done the  " dpkg -l > pre-upgrade.package.list"
21:00.48adbjpinx: i see ..
21:00.48jpinxacode_: go with adb 's words mate
21:00.54xand!webmin
21:00.54dpkgit has been said that webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal.  Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality.
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21:01.06acode_adb: have experience with this sorta thing? ;)
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21:01.25Gryflhase!openchrome
21:01.26dpkgThe OpenChrome project develops free and open-source drivers for the VIA UniChrome video chipsets.  http://packages.debian.org/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome , http://www.openchrome.org/ .  Post-Lenny, 'xserver-xorg-video-via' is a transitional package to the OpenChrome driver, amend or remove your xorg.conf's Driver value if explicitly set.  #unichrome @ irc.freenode.net.
21:01.58TimothyAchrome is still around? sjees
21:02.08TimothyAwhy won't S3 just die already?
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21:03.04Quorthonhello, I've got a problem, can someone help me?
21:03.13frankS2state the question.jpg
21:03.19GryflhaseTimothyA, : I've seen it yesterday.... so I'll update my laptop to lenny
21:03.30GryflhaseI don't like just vesa ;)
21:03.37TimothyAsjeesus, their website is even worse than it was several years ago
21:03.43TimothyAhow does a company like that manage to stay in business?
21:05.07streunerapt, test
21:05.08aptFailed!
21:05.13TimothyAi doubt any of their products support OpenGL yet
21:05.21acode_adb: still here?
21:05.49adbacode_: in lenny is libmysqlclient15-dev 5.0.51a-24 [7191kB]
21:06.02adband install himself
21:06.43acode_so I should be able to say aptitude install libmysqlclient15-dev  ?
21:06.52chordoggdoes dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not prompt for resolutions anymore?
21:07.18adbso i dunoo why needed 5.1.5...  , maybe  because of your apt pinning
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21:09.04acode_!versions  zlib1g-dev
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21:09.12adbjudd: versions libmysqlclient15-dev
21:09.14juddadb: libmysqlclient15-dev -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch6 etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch8 etch-backports: 5.0.51a-23~bpo40+1 lenny: 5.0.51a-24 squeeze: 5.0.51a-24 sid: 5.0.77-1 experimental: 5.1.31-2 experimental: 5.1.33-2
21:09.38acode_jpinx: judd: versions  libmysqlclient-dev
21:09.38acode_[22:31] judd: jpinx: libmysqlclient-dev -- experimental: 5.1.33-1
21:10.03chordoggdoes dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not prompt for resolutions anymore?
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21:10.28adbacode_: so you mixed all sources , very bad
21:11.14jpinxadb: we've been through all that
21:11.17valdynchordogg: it does not.
21:11.20acode_yeah, needless to say ive been annoyed with the apt-get system, making me do silly things since there were restrictions to what ive been able to install
21:11.29acode_so i had to add more sources etc
21:11.37acode_in hindsight, not smart
21:11.47acode_how do I get myself out of this mess?
21:11.57valdynacode_: reinstall
21:12.28chordoggvaldyn: how do i set my resolution no?
21:12.30acode_is that the best option?
21:12.33chordoggvaldyn: now*
21:12.41jpinxacode_: don't blame debian - you needed to follow the rules a bit closer;)
21:12.45valdynchordogg: with xrandr
21:13.00chordoggvaldyn: ty
21:13.10valdynchordogg: or the tool for this in your desktop environment
21:13.17acode_jpinx: its for dev, i use my time on development, not administrating. but in the future i can see i should take more time tto do that
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21:13.30chordoggvaldyn: in gnome the screen resolution applet doesn't have any resolutions in it....
21:13.38acode_jpinx: think the best option is to reinstall?
21:13.41valdynchordogg: however, with modern lcd displays you have something broken if the lcd native res isnt on
21:14.02valdynchordogg: maybe you're using the vesa driver
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21:14.21jpinxacode_: I am only able to tell what I did - I am not a professional here
21:14.30chordoggvaldyn: that's probably it...its a laptop that uses a intel chip for graphics
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21:14.52acode_jpinx: how complicated is the process you went through?
21:14.59valdynchordogg: might have to set the driver manually if the chip is unknown to X
21:15.19adbacode_: it's  not apt who get (>= 5.1.33-0.dotdeb.1) it's not even a debian package
21:15.25valdynchordogg: i believe thats the case with some intel chips, the intel driver would still work, once enabled
21:15.25jpinxacode_: I didn't have quite as big a mess to tiddy up, but I managed after a couple of days of careful cleaning up
21:15.46jpinxacode_: it's not complicated, but it can be confusing and it takes time
21:15.49valdynchordogg: so read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to get all the information you need, basically
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21:16.06MrMachi, how to figure out which package installed which file?
21:16.21acode_ok lets say priority one is to get the package i need installed, then I want it to run for a few weeks and I take it down and give it a clean wipe, is that plausible?
21:16.43NoReGreThow can I use the key here http://debian.cihar.com/ to sign that package ? (I don't know much about the key procedure )
21:17.06chordoggvaldyn: hmm...okay. not really sure what i'm looking for but i'll keep trying
21:18.02jpinxacode_: you're the one with the requirements, so go for what you need
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21:18.27acode_well then I guess the question is how can I install the file
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21:19.57jpinxacode_: to install one file you download it and install it by hand
21:20.25acode_but wont the dependency stop me?
21:20.26adbyes , if dependencies works ...
21:20.38acode_yeah it had an annoying dependecy
21:21.03jpinxuse dpkg -i to install and then run aptitude update and safe-upgrade to check dependencies
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21:24.39SQlvpapirso.. basically ipmasq requires no configuring?
21:24.47acode_shrug i dont even know where to find the package :p
21:25.06jpinxacode_: I thought you knew what package you need/
21:25.08jpinx?
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21:25.23acode_jpinx: i do, but so many versions : http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mysql/mysql-dfsg-5.0/tags/5.0.77-1/#_mysql-dfsg-5.0_tags_5.0.77-1_
21:26.20jpinxacode_: what are you trying to install?
21:26.34acode_the mysql connector for rub
21:26.36acode_ruby*
21:26.39jpinxacode_: I mean, what pointed you at that page
21:26.51acode_http://packages.debian.org/sid/libmysqlclient15-dev
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21:28.04jpinxjudd: versions libmysqlclient15-dev
21:28.05juddjpinx: libmysqlclient15-dev -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch6 etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch8 etch-backports: 5.0.51a-23~bpo40+1 lenny: 5.0.51a-24 squeeze: 5.0.51a-24 sid: 5.0.77-1 experimental: 5.1.31-2 experimental: 5.1.33-2
21:28.49jpinxacode_: ^^  and given that you had experimental in your sources list, that's what you'll get probably - whether you want it or not
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21:30.28acode_fair enough, getting http://packages.debian.org/experimental/libmysqlclient15-dev
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21:32.09guadalaiiHey, Totem doesn't seem to be obeying gstreamer-properties and is using Xv even though I'm disabling it in gstreamer properties. Help?
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21:33.02valdynguadalaii: you are really using totem-xine?
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21:33.08jpinxacode_: good luck ;)
21:33.52guadalaiivaldyn: Ah, indeed. Just update-alternatives, then?
21:33.53acode_im unhappy with this host, i guess this is a good time to move to different and start on a new server ;)
21:33.54adbacode_: that things are made first on a test machine , means installing lenny , moving to sid , install needed packages , that is fist step , so no using a remote/production machine ...
21:34.09valdynguadalaii: i guess, i dont know
21:35.09jpinxacode_: where are you in NZ ?
21:35.34acode_lol why?
21:35.49jpinxjust curious -I have a house in Raglan;)
21:36.02acode_well truth be told, im not in nz ^^
21:36.23jpinxheh - I saw nz in your sources.list - that's all
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21:52.51enyawixThe gcc package is broken. I installed gcc but the gcc command is NOT installed
21:53.02beardy!be enyawix
21:53.12beardy!be
21:53.12dpkgi guess be is Belgium, Beryllium or the company who made BeOS.
21:53.17beardyffs..
21:53.22beardy!build-essential
21:53.23dpkgrumour has it, build-essential is a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages.  If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential".  If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package.  Ask me about <qotd49>.
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21:53.57beardyenyawix: Telling which version of Debian and which version, and name of the package also helps.
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21:54.44enyawixlanny and gcc 3.4  I tried gcc -v after install.
21:55.29n3klWhere can I learn how to turn raw source code into debian packages?
21:56.08NoReGreThow can I apply the bridge in /etc/network/interfaces, are they the same commands entered ?
21:56.36CutMeOwnThroat!pal beardy
21:56.36dpkgpoints at beardy and laughs uproariously
21:56.46rozzin1I found the dh-make package useful when I was learning how to make debian packages.
21:56.50enyawixn3kl what package did you install to get gcc? I want gcc also.
21:57.20n3klenyawix: did you not read beardys response.  Install build-essential.
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21:57.41enyawixn3kl ok I am on it brb
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22:00.52CutMeOwnThroatn3kl, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
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22:02.15n3klCutMeOwnThroat: Awesome, thanks
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22:03.14lfaraonewhat's the proper way to make a makefile so that it will work properly when used in a debian package?
22:03.47lfaraone(as in, let's say I want to install my files in "/usr/local/bin/", how would I do that so it doens't need to be patched for debian?)
22:04.25CutMeOwnThroatmost open source projects today use configure scripts to write the makefile
22:04.56CutMeOwnThroattry apt-cache show autoconf
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22:06.32CutMeOwnThroatthen you can just do ./configure --prefix=/usr/local and stuff will go there instead of /
22:06.40lfaraoneCutMeOwnThroat: well, I'm writing the makefile :)
22:06.53enyawixThanks gcc -v and hello world builds ok. Thanks for the help.
22:07.14lfaraoneCutMeOwnThroat: basically I just need some python scripts put in /usr/(local/)bin.
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22:08.32Turicasi'm trying to install python-matplotlib and apt-get wants to install tex-common and other tex related packages (as "extra" packages), but I don't want (and don't have enough space) then. what i can to to solve this problem?
22:08.32valdynlfaraone: why /usr/local when you are creating a debian package?
22:08.36enyawixbeardy thanks gcc works now :)
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22:09.24at0mTuricas, aptitude maybe?
22:09.36Turicasat0m, same...
22:09.38lfaraonevaldyn: I'm not, I'm creating a upstream project I want to be easilly packagable :)
22:09.50Turicasat0m, is there a way to DO NOT install extra packages?
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22:10.04valdynlfaraone: its easily package when it doesnt place files into wrong spots
22:10.29at0mTuricas, and they're not dependancies?
22:10.30valdyn!fhs
22:10.30dpkgDebian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.  The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application.  This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
22:11.04valdynlfaraone: and should $PREFIX  be configurable anyway
22:11.25Turicasat0m, i think not
22:11.44Turicasat0m, http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/python-matplotlib - they are suggests
22:11.55Turicasduh
22:11.58CutMeOwnThroatapt-get only installs dependencies, I thought
22:12.05CutMeOwnThroatonly aptitude goes for suggests
22:12.23Turicasat0m, i unmarked option 'install recommended packages' and download size is now 4MB. before was 120MB o.O
22:12.30TuricasCutMeOwnThroat, no...
22:12.43TuricasCutMeOwnThroat, with me it don't happen
22:12.46at0mCutMeOwnThroat, cheers
22:13.17NoReGreTwhen I ssh using gnome-terminal and the connectoin dies, it takes time to disconnect the halted ssh session, so it's annoying to wait, so I close the terminal and open another one, is there a way to just disconnect this ssh session faster ?
22:13.19enoufCutMeOwnThroat: since sometime apt-get also defaults to installing Recommends
22:13.31enouf0.7.x versions
22:13.33TuricasCutMeOwnThroat, yes, but both apt-get and aptitude was trying to install all suggests before i unmaker 'do not instlal recommende packages' in aptitude CLI
22:13.49at0mTuricas, maybe install from source? i don't know, maybe enouf or someone else does..
22:14.13Turicasat0m, afbter disable recommended packages in aptitude i can install it
22:14.14betzHow do i disable the firewall by ssh?
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22:14.32CutMeOwnThroatNoReGreT, 'killall ssh' if you don't mind all your other sshs dying :)
22:14.45NoReGreTCutMeOwnThroat: thanks
22:15.16NoReGreTbut that requires opening another terminal :) i want some key combination or something..
22:15.39CutMeOwnThroatNoReGreT, then make one
22:16.06enoufTuricas: place Install-Suggests "false"; in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/NNwhatever
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22:16.36babbageHow do I downgrade from grub-pc to grub2?
22:16.43bewarei find lenny has ipv6 disabled by default. i find this worrying
22:16.43enoufTuricas: actually, you can also add a line for Recommends there also - see file:///usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz
22:16.44Turicasenouf, thanks
22:16.52NoReGreTCutMeOwnThroat: make one that killall ssh ?
22:17.30CutMeOwnThroator that kills the specific ssh you want
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22:18.43enoufTuricas: i have this one line in my "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/98-recommends" file; APT::Install-Recommends "false";
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22:19.57TuricasI'll create a file with 'APT::Install-Suggests "false";' and 'APT::Install-Recommends "false";'. this will work?
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22:20.58enoufbeardy: fwiw, it's !b-e  :-P
22:21.35NoReGreTCutMeOwnThroat: great, that worked nicely
22:21.39beardyenouf: Thanks.
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22:21.45adbTuricas: Suggests are not installed , instead of -Recommends
22:21.49SQlvpapirI successfully set up dhcp3-server and the clients behind my netmasq machine can look up dns fine using my isp's dns server ip. however nothing else goes through. any tips?
22:21.56enoufwork? it will stop Recommends and Suggests from being installed as default
22:22.25Turicasadb, even in apt-get and aptitude?
22:22.30enoufi've never seen Suggests installed without me specifying them
22:22.31adbyes
22:22.39Turicasadb, ok, thanks
22:23.06adbonly  Recommends  line is needed
22:23.32Turicasokay
22:23.38adbbut must knowing what you done
22:24.05adbsome packages needs Recommends  to good running
22:24.27SQlvpapirthis is my dhcpd.conf http://pastebin.com/m49c5aa0e ipmasq is started using init.d with default configuration. clients behind me can look up dns but not connect to anybody. client-ipmasq/dhcpmachine-isprouter192.168.0.1
22:24.28Turicashm
22:24.34adbyea
22:24.36adbh
22:24.53Turicasadb, in my case i don't want much packages - my 4GB SSD is only with 50MB free :P
22:25.21adbso it's ok
22:25.50adbapt-get clean may free some space
22:26.12adbrunning gnome ?
22:26.25enouflocalepurge ftw \o/
22:26.38adbyes enouf  too
22:26.38SQlvpapir2nd that enouf
22:27.00Turicasadb, yes
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22:27.49adbdesinatall gnome all , and install "gnome-core" that will free more space
22:28.06Turicasadb, gnome all? what package?
22:28.07adbdes install *
22:28.29adb!remove gnome
22:28.29dpkgTo remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want).  For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly).
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22:29.12SQlvpapir!ipmasq
22:29.13dpkgIf all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html
22:29.30CutMeOwnThroatTuricas, /var on a separate partition?s
22:29.40CutMeOwnThroataha, too late
22:30.10TuricasCutMeOwnThroat, no. I have a 8GB SD card but it is not working very well...so i'm not sure if it is a good idea to put /var inside SD
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22:30.57CutMeOwnThroatwell, if it'3s not, apt-cache clean should indeed give you some space
22:31.15TuricasCutMeOwnThroat, I always do this :P
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22:31.47CutMeOwnThroatheh
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22:33.53bewarewhy does installing openssh-server depend on X?
22:34.35SQlvpapirbeware: it does?
22:35.01bewareit does for me atleast. in lenny.
22:35.05SQlvpapirinstall w/o recommends
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22:35.26CutMeOwnThroat<PROTECTED>
22:35.48adbssh -X ?
22:35.50SQlvpapirits prolly the xauth..
22:35.53CutMeOwnThroatyeah, xauth is in the recommends
22:36.16bewarewhat is the "mistake" here? that debian enables "recommends" by default, or that ssh recommends xauth?
22:36.26adbyes
22:36.32CutMeOwnThroat:)
22:36.37bewarethats not a sensible answer. i asked which of the 2 it is
22:36.58SQlvpapirbecause it install recommends ofc
22:36.59adb<PROTECTED>
22:37.01CutMeOwnThroatthat debian installs recommends by default
22:37.04SQlvpapiryou can change that though
22:37.18CutMeOwnThroatxauth is a sensible recommend
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22:37.44bewarei find it very frustrating to pull in the desktop if im trying to set up a server
22:37.53bewareso, its not sensible for *me*
22:38.06SQlvpapirbeware: you have the freedom to choose otherwise
22:38.17sh4d3sl4y3r_my cdrom or memory cards are not mounted automatically under gnome when inserted and i need to manually go to "Computer" click the icon, then they are mounted and appear in Desktop
22:38.18SQlvpapirjust go ahead and install w/o recommends.. whats the big deal
22:38.20sh4d3sl4y3r_any solutions?
22:38.26infomomowhats  a nice command to find the directory called minicom ? <find / minicom -type d>  gives me jibbereish
22:38.28bewarehow do i install without recommends?
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22:38.51jpinxmy aptitude doesn't install recommends automatiaclly
22:38.52SQlvpapirbeware: man packagemanager-of-choice
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22:39.22CutMeOwnThroatinfomomo, .... -name ...
22:39.43jpinxbeware: try aptitude -s to see what it will do without actually doing it
22:40.09sh4d3sl4y3r_can anyone solve my problem?
22:40.13CutMeOwnThroatSQlvpapir, No manual entry for packagemanager-of-choice :(
22:40.19infomomoCutMeOwnThroat: thnaks
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22:40.50SQlvpapirCutMeOwnThroat: sorry I dont know regular expression ;)
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22:42.41adbsh4d3sl4y3r_: gnome-volume-manager - GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices
22:43.13adbapt-cache search automount
22:43.16bewareok, i find the "mistake", to use my terminology, is that, recently, "recommends" is enabled by default
22:43.31adbedit  /etc/apt/apt.conf    or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
22:43.41bewarethanks
22:44.16adbAPT::Install-Recommends "false";
22:44.34zleapanyidea why hugin is included but teh dependancy enfuze isn't
22:44.36enoufis there an echo in here? :-P
22:44.43sh4d3sl4y3r_gnome-volume-manager is installed. how to use it?
22:44.49enoufrun it
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22:45.04zleapenfuse
22:45.10zleapnot enfuze
22:45.15sh4d3sl4y3r_coredump:/home/aditya# gnome-volume-manager
22:45.16sh4d3sl4y3r_bash: gnome-volume-manager: command not found
22:45.20adbenouf: logout/login first ?
22:45.28sh4d3sl4y3r_this is what i am getting though its installed
22:45.52enoufwhich gnome-volume-mangler
22:46.16sh4d3sl4y3r_u mean the version?
22:46.24enoufthen use full path .. or try gconf-editor
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22:46.43enoufno, 'which ...... ' is a command
22:46.49sh4d3sl4y3r_oh wait
22:47.03sh4d3sl4y3r_coredump:/home/aditya# which gnome-volume-manager
22:47.04sh4d3sl4y3r_coredump:/home/aditya#
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22:47.12sh4d3sl4y3r_no results
22:47.17enoufno binary
22:47.20SQlvpapirwow wtf.. now magically ipmasq works :D
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22:48.01enoufdpkg -L pkgname sh4d3sl4y3r_ to find out binary/shell/perl names
22:48.01dpkgii  pkgname sh4d3sl4y3r_ to find out binary/shell/perl names                 2.3-5.3           enouf's private gamp collection
22:48.30enoufg-v-m might be dead?
22:48.47sh4d3sl4y3r_synaptic shows g - v - m 2.24.0-1 installed
22:48.53enoufi would use gnome-[tab][tab] :=P
22:49.01sh4d3sl4y3r_it shows other packages
22:49.02sh4d3sl4y3r_lol
22:49.23enouf!automount
22:49.23dpkgAsk me about <gnome-volume-manager>, <kde automount>, <ivman>, <autofs> or <thunar-volman> <usb mount>, or <halevt>
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22:49.34enouf!gnome-volume-manager
22:49.34dpkggnome-volume-manager is, like, a package for gnome users that will automount removable volumes.  aptitude install gnome-volume-manager pmount ; adduser username plugdev ; you will have to log out and back in before it works
22:49.51enoufadb: i guess so :-P
22:49.57sh4d3sl4y3r_let me reinstall
22:50.00sh4d3sl4y3r_then work this out
22:50.07enoufreinstall what?
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22:50.23enouf...
22:50.28sh4d3sl4y3r_damn
22:50.33sh4d3sl4y3r_removing it removes gnome : S
22:50.33sh4d3sl4y3r_lolz
22:50.37enoufif it says ii it's installed ok
22:50.38adb<PROTECTED>
22:50.47adbsh4d3sl4y3r_: ^^^
22:50.53enoufhe can't read adb ...
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22:51.23adbheh [ 00:44:19] <adb> enouf: logout/login first ?
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22:51.40enoufheh [18:49:01] <enouf> adb: i guess so :-P
22:51.44Ace2017_-hi all
22:52.00enouf18 hours later O_o
22:52.18Ace2017_-is it possible to set left click + keyboard shortcut = right click?
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22:52.52Ace2017_-i use middle click more than right click, and i never use the middle mouse button because of rsi
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23:01.29martin54321I compiled a program from source code. Is it normal that this does not appera under "dpkg -l"?
23:01.36martin54321*appear
23:02.01ballessayyes it is normal
23:02.47martin54321ballessay: ok, but how can I view the version of the program if the program has no -v or silimal option?
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23:03.17CutMeOwnThroatdepends on the program
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23:03.33ballessayfrom the source-code-directory?
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23:04.54sly007Hello, I want to migrate from etch to lenny, I have packages from the etch-backports source, do I just need to comment the etch-backports repository  and aptitude dist-upgrade to make my debian use the packages in lenny?
23:05.02sly007instead of those in etch backports
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23:05.45jpinx!etch->lenny
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23:05.57martin54321ballessay: the program I am dealing with is a scrot. It is a command line screen capture utility. The newest version should support --focus(will make screenshot only of an active window). The newest version i have found is 0.8-8. However after compiling, it has no --focus option
23:06.16jpinx!tell sly007 about etch->lenny
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23:06.28adbdpkg
23:06.33adbdead
23:06.39grirgzhi
23:06.45martin54321hello
23:06.47jpinxeaster holidays for dpkg
23:06.52adb!sources
23:06.52dpkgThe list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code.  Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list.  Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
23:07.38sly007jpinx: my question is about etch-backports packages already installed.
23:07.55grirgzi have a new lcd screen, the resolution from my previous ecran is not adequate for the new one, how can i change the resolution ? (debian sid)
23:08.02jpinxsly007: ok - comment out the backports sources and do the upgrade
23:08.34sly007jpinx: if there are packages in etch-backports which are not in lenny, what will happen?
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23:08.41jpinxsly007: then see what versions of those backported packages are installed as part of your upgrade before hunting for them
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23:09.11sly007jpinx: how do I know which packages on my system are from the etch-backports souce?
23:09.28jpinxsly007: if your paranoia drives you to it - you can check the different backports and standard lenny packages before you start
23:10.00jpinxsly007: one assume that you knew why you were using backports in the first place?
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23:10.50sly007jpinx: I knew why I was using the repository. But I can't remember all the packages in it I installed. How can I find this info, is the re a command line to know which packages belong to etch-backports?
23:11.30jpinxsly007: not sure about that
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23:12.37jpinxsly007: I was very careful when I used backports and kept a note of exactly what it was being used for
23:12.54grirgzi have found (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but there is a lot of resolutions, how can i know the good one for my screen ?
23:12.57jpinxbut when I upped to lenny I didn't need backports at all
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23:13.24sly007jpinx: if I remove the etch-backports source, will the corresponding software be removed?
23:14.08jpinxsly007: no
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23:14.20adbnot necessary , if not newer version is installed , i guess
23:14.36jpinxsly007: use aptitude and it will always tell you what it's doing and give you the chance to make choices
23:14.46sh4d3sl4y3r_are debian live images from http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ installable if the user wants? say i download the unstable live. cant it be installed ?
23:14.54martin54321how to remove compiled program?
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23:15.12adbsh4d3sl4y3r_: no .
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23:15.23adbnot yet better
23:15.45chfwiggummartin54321: make uninstall
23:15.47sh4d3sl4y3r_oh ok
23:15.53sh4d3sl4y3r_thanks
23:15.54jpinxsly007:follow those instructions etch->lenny and you will be ok
23:16.07jpinxjust comment out backports before you start
23:16.15jpinx:-/
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23:18.32DeetaWould anyone know how i can generate a bell character in xterm? (I tried echo ^G) but it does not seem to work. (my aim is to simulate an urgent window)
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23:19.01martin54321chfwiggum: thanks! However, should I always keep those source directories? Or is it possible to do "make uninstall" even without having the source directory?
23:19.04enoufuse \a
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23:20.09enoufman ascii ;  007   7     07    BEL '\a' (bell)
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23:22.55JordiGHDoes anyone have a handy XML I can import into Iceweasel so that I can make Hotmail think I'm Firefox?
23:23.09MrMachey, i have a virtual machine using eth0 as the hostinterface. in the first run it it is working, but for the second boot not, for any reason. then i have to  VBoxManage modifyvm "my_host" -nic1 hostif -hostifdev1 eth0 to get it working again. if i disable vrdp then it never works, known issue?
23:23.35MrMacups, sorry wrong channel
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23:24.20jpinxJordiGH: use the addon for user-agrnt-switcher
23:24.39JordiGHjpinx: I didn't ask for the addon; I asked for the XML for that addon. :-/
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23:24.45martin54321Is there a command line screenshot utility, which supports screenshots of an active window? I tried with scrot version 0.8-8, but even this had no --focused option. Any help?
23:24.57jpinxjust made it up
23:25.07enoufadds on some XML onto the addon for the XML addon
23:25.27jpinxJordiGH: I messed around with settings till hotmail and my bank were both fooled
23:25.38JordiGHOr maybe I should just make my mom use Gmail instead of Hotmail...
23:25.44jpinxJordiGH: hang on and I'll give you mine
23:25.53enoufgmail > hotmail
23:26.09CutMeOwnThroatJordiGH, prefbar does that for me ... although I wouldn't touch hotmail with a 10 inch ram bank
23:26.26enoufs/inch/meter
23:26.36jpinxJordiGH: catch these lines
23:26.44jpinxFirefox 2 (Windows XP)
23:26.58jpinxMozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1)Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0
23:27.06CutMeOwnThroats/inch/ light year/
23:27.12CutMeOwnThroat"deep thought" :)
23:27.19jpinxNetscape
23:27.31JordiGHjpinx: Oh, that's the string from geticeweasel.org. I was kind hoping to get a more "correct" string for Firefox 3 on Linux.
23:27.39jpinx5.0 (Windows; en-US)
23:27.56jpinxWin32
23:28.03enoufmartin54321: not CLI per se, but ksnapshot does that .. maybe you can tell it to from the shell using some "kdeinit ..." or "kcmserver ..." style commands
23:28.16jpinxJordiGH: I tried a more "official" one but it didn't work
23:28.27JordiGHjpinx: Okay, so that's what Hotmail wants?
23:28.28Wojtashi guys :)
23:28.36jpinxand others did hotmail but not my bank - and vice versa
23:28.45enoufs/light year/intergalactic ;-O
23:28.58JordiGHjpinx: Oh, does UA switcher leave the UA permanently changed, or does it have to be changed each tiem you load Debian Moonsquirrel?
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23:29.02jpinxthis one is the result of a crate of beer and deep thought ;)
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23:29.25CutMeOwnThroatjpinx, what'3s the difficulty with using several UAs?s
23:30.04jpinxcan't be arsed constantly changing the UA's
23:30.12CutMeOwnThroatit's one click...
23:30.16enoufkonqout offers me like 10 thousand user agents
23:30.19Wojtaswhat proportions of debian partitions do you suggest for new user? i have 20gb to spare
23:30.24jpinxcounts the clicks
23:30.34enoufand each tab can have their own
23:30.46CutMeOwnThroatjpinx, you need long to count up to one :)
23:30.55jpinx2 :p
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23:31.14CutMeOwnThroatoh, ok - whatever referrer I choose, it'3s global
23:31.15jpinx> tools > user-agent-switcher
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23:31.30jpinxmine's global - not tab-specific
23:31.37enoufmine's both
23:31.43jpinxand reverts when I shut iceweasel down
23:31.46enoufdepending on how i set it
23:31.52jpinxhow did you do that enouf
23:32.13enoufi clicked the clickety click thingy
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23:32.24jpinxvery helpful :p
23:33.09jpinxclickety clicks...
23:33.14enoufwell .. it's a bloated POS anyway, so i don't want to recommend it
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23:34.35SideshowSideburnquit
23:34.42ale1987look this video , well cool
23:34.45ale1987http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfFNedECVxQ
23:34.48jpinxcan't see any option for tab-independency
23:34.58JordiGHale1987: GTFO, please.
23:35.09jpinxale1987: go away
23:35.16ale1987http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfFNedECVxQ
23:35.22ale1987http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfFNedECVxQ
23:35.24JordiGH!ops ale1987
23:35.25dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jordigh complains about: ale1987
23:35.25ale1987http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfFNedECVxQ
23:35.29jpinx!ops ale1987 spamming
23:35.29dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jpinx complains about: ale1987 spamming
23:35.46ale1987kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
23:35.46jpinxheh JordiGH
23:35.56*** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ
23:35.57*** mode/#debian [+b *!*@189.106.158.233] by gravity
23:35.57*** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity
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23:36.13jpinxthanks gravity :)
23:36.16*** part/#debian ale1987 (n=ale1987@189.106.158.233)
23:37.08gravityjpinx: No problem
23:40.53kevin7kalwhat are all of you thoughts on apt-p2p ?
23:41.17buggarageby the way, what player are you using ?
23:41.25buggaragesmplayer is awful
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23:53.03rozzinNeat--I didn't know about apt-p2p.
23:53.43SQlvpapiripmasq is truely awesome :D
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