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| 00:03.33 | timotheus | How can I tell `make-kpkg' to pass -j3 to GNU Make? |
| 00:07.03 | Nikke | Hey, i have compiled the latest debian but kdm doesnt find it in sessions... i think it might be found in /usr/local/bin |
| 00:07.13 | Nikke | oups... dwm not debian |
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| 00:08.42 | rex | behold |
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| 00:15.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | avant! |
| 00:15.19 | rex | Abraham = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amenemhat_I , Moses = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_III , Mary = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra , Joseph = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Antony , Father = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar , Judas Didymus = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Helios , Mary Magdalene = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra_Selene_II , Jesus = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesarion |
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| 00:15.59 | jpinx | rex: go away |
| 00:17.51 | `6og | does debian.net have a 'short urls' service? i'd like to shorten announcement uris, but using a 3rd party (like ln-s or tinyurl) seems a bit off. |
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| 00:20.26 | zophy[] | i want to do a dist-upgrade from etch to lenny, what sources should i have in sources.lst before i do apt-get upgrade, and before i do apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
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| 00:22.05 | jpinx | !tell zophy[] about etch->lenny |
| 00:22.22 | jpinx | there ya go zophy[] |
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| 00:24.07 | jpinx | `6og: I don't believe so |
| 00:24.30 | jpinx | `6og: dpkg only mentions tinyurl |
| 00:24.38 | jpinx | !tinyurl |
| 00:24.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, tinyurl is instead of pasting those long urls that take several cut 'n pastes to get into the url bar of a browser, please visit http://tinyurl.com and paste your url there.. turn this: http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+gnu%2Flinux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial into this: http://tinyurl.com/pdxzw |
| 00:24.44 | MrMac | zophy[]: the lenny sources? |
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| 00:25.23 | `6og | jpinx, bugger. thanks for checking |
| 00:25.27 | jpinx | !etch->lenny |
| 00:25.49 | jpinx | `6og: it's something I am sure they would like if you did it |
| 00:26.03 | jpinx | stupid bot ! |
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| 00:26.31 | `6og | jpinx, i'm not web hackingly inclined unfortunately :\ |
| 00:26.50 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:28.44 | jpinx | `6og: ;) |
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| 00:30.20 | timotheus | found variable CONCURRENCY_LEVEL for make-kpkg |
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| 00:31.58 | sohum | what happened to the package libmultisync-plugin-syncml? |
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| 00:33.17 | jpinx | judd: versions libmultisync-plugin-syncml |
| 00:33.17 | judd | jpinx: libmultisync-plugin-syncml -- |
| 00:33.36 | JordiGH | What happened to hotbabe is what I want to know. |
| 00:33.39 | jpinx | when did you see it last sohum ? |
| 00:33.40 | JordiGH | !hotbabe |
| 00:33.58 | jpinx | JordiGH: the bot is on holiday |
| 00:34.08 | sohum | jpinx: I didn't, but there're docs which describe it |
| 00:34.11 | JordiGH | @hotbabe |
| 00:34.18 | JordiGH | apt, hello |
| 00:34.19 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 00:34.23 | JordiGH | apt, hotbabe |
| 00:34.25 | jpinx | sohum: what docs - links? |
| 00:34.43 | sohum | jpinx: fr'instance, this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=207845 |
| 00:35.48 | adb | heh Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 02:18:02 UTC |
| 00:35.53 | jpinx | sohum: that's in testing |
| 00:35.56 | jpinx | it might have been pulled for anow |
| 00:36.02 | sohum | aah |
| 00:36.03 | sohum | hm. |
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| 00:36.33 | sohum | thank you! |
| 00:36.34 | jpinx | !libmultisync-plugin-syncml |
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| 00:39.30 | invsblduck | anyone know how i can determine if i'm running sid? /etc/issue ? thx |
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| 00:39.57 | adb | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:40.08 | sohum | is there a timeline maintaines somewhere? somewhere I could go to see something like |
| 00:40.12 | sohum | : |
| 00:40.15 | sohum | bah, enter key |
| 00:40.22 | invsblduck | adb: ok lemme check, brb |
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| 00:40.49 | sohum | "libmultisync-plugin-syncml was in testing from Dec02 to Dec03, then was pulled" |
| 00:41.21 | invsblduck | squeeze/sid |
| 00:41.33 | invsblduck | i thought squeeze was testing... |
| 00:41.37 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 00:42.00 | adb | sohum: apt-cache show libmultisync-plugin-all | grep Maintainer |
| 00:42.02 | JordiGH | I don't know why debian_version says squeeze sid even if you have no packages from sid. |
| 00:42.06 | invsblduck | and last time i ran deb (>5 yrs ago), sid was unstable |
| 00:42.20 | Arrowmaster | probably because packages for squeeze have to go through sid first |
| 00:42.23 | JordiGH | invsblduck: Try apt-show-versions (install it if it's not there) and grep that for whatevr. |
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| 00:43.00 | JordiGH | Arrowmaster: It seems pretty easy to me to just make it squeeze if, say, apt-show-versions doesn't have any package with a version higher than what's in testing. |
| 00:43.01 | Arrowmaster | and that file is probably updated directly by a package and isnt generated so nothing is attempting to be smart and detect it |
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| 00:43.06 | jpinx | aptitude show seems to work better |
| 00:43.14 | sepult | invsblduck: you prolly got a deb http://blabla.org/debian lenny combined with no preferences file like Pin: a release=stable ?? |
| 00:43.25 | invsblduck | the point: i have stable/testing/unstable all in my sources.list (and i have testing priority 900 in apt_preferences), and i did a dist-upgrade--so i'm not sure where that got me :) |
| 00:43.39 | JordiGH | jpinx: aptitude show is for something else than apt-show-versions |
| 00:44.01 | JordiGH | invsblduck: What's the priority of the others? Moreover, wtf are you doing that? |
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| 00:44.16 | invsblduck | JordiGH: it wasn't too bright, i admit =) |
| 00:44.34 | sepult | invsblduck: try to put a Package:* ,(newline) Pin: release a=stable, (newline) Priority:1001 in your /etc/apt/preferences file and reinstall all files |
| 00:44.49 | JordiGH | invsblduck: So use apt-show-versions to see what you actually got. Probably a mess... |
| 00:45.00 | invsblduck | sepult: really? effectively downgrade ? |
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| 00:45.13 | sepult | invsblduck: don't trust the lenny line in your sources.list |
| 00:45.16 | Arrowmaster | setting a default release is a lot cleaner than a wildcard pin imho |
| 00:45.24 | invsblduck | JordiGH: alright, om |
| 00:46.03 | invsblduck | i only have stable/testing/unstable names in sources.list ; no slinky,potato,woody,lenny,etc ;) |
| 00:46.12 | Arrowmaster | oh wait dur, 1001 allows downgrading |
| 00:46.32 | sepult | invsblduck: and do a DefaultRelease "stable" in your apt.conf |
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| 00:47.06 | martin54321 | what is the option for import screenshot program to make a screenshot of an active window only? |
| 00:47.28 | sepult | invsblduck: before that you might copy apt.conf from /usr/share/doc/apt/examples to /etc/apt |
| 00:47.54 | sepult | invsblduck: or even gunzip the gzipped full reference example to /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 00:48.00 | invsblduck | ok i finally got ssh on it, no more walking over to the rack ;) |
| 00:48.06 | JordiGH | martian67: Gnome does that if you hit "alt+prt scr" |
| 00:48.11 | sepult | invsblduck: and edit it to your needs |
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| 00:50.04 | jpinx | JordiGH: aptitude -sVv install <package> might be close ;) |
| 00:52.48 | invsblduck | JordiGH: thanks the apt-show-versions command showed me exactly what i needed to see |
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| 00:53.08 | JordiGH | invsblduck: grep that for "testing" "unstable" and so on. |
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| 00:53.34 | invsblduck | JordiGH: no unstable packages, yet /etc/debian_version says squeeze/sid |
| 00:53.46 | invsblduck | so the dist-upgrade didn't take me to sid |
| 00:53.52 | invsblduck | (which is good) |
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| 00:54.17 | sepult | virtualbox's usb still won't show my usb already sticked in |
| 00:54.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think sid and experimental have lower priorites than testing by default so if you add everything you just goto testing |
| 00:54.32 | sepult | and that in version 2 |
| 00:54.35 | sepult | gah |
| 00:54.48 | invsblduck | JordiGH: regular 'apt-get upgrade' was keeping back 75 pkgs, but dist-upgrade was not, so i did dist-upgrade.. |
| 00:55.08 | JordiGH | You should be using safe-upgrade and full-upgrade now. |
| 00:55.11 | bpun | any font experts? |
| 00:55.33 | adb | sepult: sun's virtualbox ? |
| 00:55.35 | sepult` | bpun: ? |
| 00:55.36 | invsblduck | Arrowmaster: i see. that was my original question i wanted to ask :) Ty. |
| 00:55.42 | Polarina | How do I upgrade to 5.0r1? |
| 00:55.57 | bpun | sepult, do u know anything about xlsfonts ? |
| 00:56.09 | sepult` | adb: yes sun's virtualbox |
| 00:56.13 | sepult` | adb: not the ose one |
| 00:56.14 | JordiGH | Polarina: Have you read the release notes? |
| 00:56.16 | adb | hmm |
| 00:56.29 | invsblduck | JordiGH: never heard of those--don't see them in apt-get manpage :\ |
| 00:56.37 | sepult` | i'm not sure if i have to add something to my fstab |
| 00:56.41 | bpun | guess not |
| 00:56.42 | Polarina | JordiGH: It says there's no special procedures required, but apparently, that's not the case. |
| 00:56.42 | sepult` | in order for it to work |
| 00:56.50 | sepult` | no |
| 00:57.03 | sepult` | it's not doing automatic recognition |
| 00:58.00 | adb | have activate usb specification to vbox? |
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| 00:58.28 | bpun | ~!tell Polarina about etch->lenny |
| 00:58.35 | bpun | !tell Polarina about etch->lenny |
| 00:58.52 | bpun | ~!tell bpun about test |
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| 00:59.54 | invsblduck | lastly, i killed the previous server, which hadn't been upgraded in over a year. It was running 2.6.18 with LVM, and after apt-get upgrade it can't mount the root fs in /dev/mapper. I didn't know I had to upgrade the kernel (linux-image |
| 01:00.03 | invsblduck | -*) by hand |
| 01:00.53 | invsblduck | or maybe because it has sata disks? wasn't there a change around 2.6.18 or 19 that changed libata shiz? |
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| 01:01.40 | Polarina | bpun: I have 5.0 installed. |
| 01:02.45 | invsblduck | CONFIG_SCSI_SATA became CONFIG_SATA |
| 01:02.50 | bpun | Polarina, so fix up sources.list for dmm and non-free contrib |
| 01:02.51 | JordiGH | invsblduck: You should be using aptitude instead of apt-get. |
| 01:03.03 | JordiGH | Polarina: What problems did you have? |
| 01:03.05 | Polarina | bpun: I want to upgrade to 5.0r1. |
| 01:03.10 | invsblduck | JordiGH: should is a strong word. really? |
| 01:03.22 | Polarina | JordiGH: My system refuses to show the updates that came with 5.0r1. |
| 01:03.25 | JordiGH | invsblduck: aptitude has been the recommended manager since etch. |
| 01:03.59 | JordiGH | Wait a minute, is there even a 5.0r1 release yet? |
| 01:04.03 | invsblduck | sheesh. ie., debian.org/mainline/upstream recommends it? |
| 01:04.13 | JordiGH | invsblduck: Yes. |
| 01:04.22 | Polarina | JordiGH: Yes. |
| 01:04.22 | invsblduck | o_O |
| 01:04.29 | JordiGH | Polarina: debian.org frontpage says that 5.0 is the latest, not 5.0r1. Where did you see 5.0r1? |
| 01:04.41 | Polarina | JordiGH: In the news. |
| 01:04.50 | JordiGH | Polarina: But not in Debian.org... |
| 01:04.51 | bpun | Polarina, do u know what "lenny" is? |
| 01:04.52 | invsblduck | JordiGH: good to know. well thank you then. |
| 01:04.55 | Polarina | http://debian.org/News/2009/20090411 |
| 01:04.59 | Polarina | bpun: Yes. |
| 01:05.12 | JordiGH | Polarina: Okay, I just found it. |
| 01:05.28 | JordiGH | Polarina: "Those who frequently install updates from security.debian.org won't have to update many packages and most updates from security.debian.org are included in this update." <-- is this your case? |
| 01:05.34 | adb | !topic |
| 01:05.46 | Polarina | JordiGH: Not according to what I've seen on this channel. |
| 01:06.14 | Polarina | JordiGH: I for example haven't got any openoffice updates, and that list mentions openoffice. |
| 01:06.18 | JordiGH | Polarina: Well, what's your sources.list, have you run apt-get update recently, what do you think needs to be upgraded that hasn't been? |
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| 01:06.43 | Polarina | JordiGH: I've ran apt-get update few minutes ago, nothing... |
| 01:07.18 | JordiGH | Polarina: And then what did "aptitude full-upgrade" do? What does "apt-cache policy openoffice.org" report? |
| 01:07.53 | JordiGH | Is your OO.o not at version 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1? |
| 01:08.12 | Polarina | JordiGH: full-upgrade did nothing. Installed: 1:2.4.1-17+b1 |
| 01:08.18 | adb | it's to earlier , not all mirror are up to day |
| 01:08.42 | JordiGH | Polarina: Right, what's your mirror? |
| 01:08.57 | Polarina | JordiGH: ftp://is.debian.org/ |
| 01:08.57 | sepult | Polarina: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free ?? |
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| 01:09.11 | Polarina | sepult: deb http://ftp.is.debian.org/debian/ lenny main |
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| 01:09.28 | JordiGH | wonders where .is is |
| 01:09.33 | sepult | Polarina: and security ? |
| 01:09.42 | Polarina | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
| 01:09.53 | sepult | Polarina: ok |
| 01:10.17 | JordiGH | Polarina: *Is* there a newer version available according to apt-cache policy? |
| 01:10.21 | JordiGH | Polarina: The mirrors might just not be updated yet. |
| 01:10.25 | Polarina | JordiGH: No. |
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| 01:10.36 | JordiGH | Polarina: So your mirror is a little slow. Wait a couple of days. |
| 01:10.47 | sepult | Polarina: maybe http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny-proposed-updates main contrib non-free ?? too |
| 01:10.51 | Polarina | JordiGH: I already have. |
| 01:11.03 | JordiGH | Polarina: You haven't even waited one day. :-/ |
| 01:11.13 | Polarina | JordiGH: I've waited before asking. |
| 01:11.39 | JordiGH | Polarina: The announcement that 5.0 was updated is from April 11. |
| 01:11.54 | JordiGH | Polarina: Depending on time zones, that's not even one day. |
| 01:12.07 | JordiGH | Polarina: Use a different mirror or wait a couple of days for your mirror to update. |
| 01:12.28 | Polarina | :( |
| 01:13.55 | abrotman | sepult: uh .. no |
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| 01:14.47 | jpinx | Polarina: Icelands mirror is likely not to update for a day - but you are not missing anything urgent |
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| 01:15.56 | jpinx | Polarina: I have just done the upgrade and it took 2 hours from the US server because there was so much OO stuff :( |
| 01:16.37 | bpun | Polarina, see the history |
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| 01:17.36 | JordiGH | So .is is Iceland? |
| 01:17.44 | JordiGH | will try to remember that. |
| 01:18.03 | JordiGH | wonders if in Icelandic the name "Iceland" is about ice or islands. |
| 01:18.19 | jpinx | JordiGH: both ;) |
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| 01:19.48 | cr4z3d | i'm attempting to install a debian guest inside xen (running on debian) and i believe i'm not configuring the network interfaces properly because the xen net install is asking me for the ethernet driver right away |
| 01:19.56 | cr4z3d | anyone know how to fix this? |
| 01:20.32 | bpun | cr4z3d, pebcak |
| 01:20.43 | cr4z3d | pebcak? |
| 01:21.10 | adb | !pebcak |
| 01:21.10 | dpkg | pebcak is, like, Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard |
| 01:21.23 | cr4z3d | oh yes.. i know user error |
| 01:21.37 | cr4z3d | but i'm looking for the right file to make changes to |
| 01:21.44 | bpun | he's calling it broken because he doesn't know how to set it up.. i think that's pathetic |
| 01:21.51 | invsblduck | appears from the universe of aptitude. |
| 01:21.58 | cr4z3d | what i'm not saying it's broken |
| 01:22.33 | invsblduck | well that was interesting. it's was like dselect++ in there. |
| 01:22.46 | invsblduck | :D |
| 01:23.13 | invsblduck | :| |
| 01:24.04 | invsblduck | thanks for the help anyways, guys n gals..muchas gracias. |
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| 01:26.27 | freaky_t | hi all. i executed /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl -newca to create a new CA. but the demoCA/cacert.pem is empty? but this is needed by courier to be able to allow tls connections what can I do? (debian lenny) |
| 01:26.41 | freaky_t | trying to do this tutorial http://www.huschi.net/4_169_de-debian-postfix-tls-einrichten.html |
| 01:28.06 | abrotman | freaky_t: that has no date on it .. could be five years old and useless |
| 01:28.20 | freaky_t | huh? |
| 01:28.24 | freaky_t | ah |
| 01:28.28 | freaky_t | ok |
| 01:28.29 | abrotman | oh .. it's from 2006 .. |
| 01:28.35 | freaky_t | so do you know of any postfix tls tutorial? |
| 01:28.51 | abrotman | the ones at postfix.org ? i believe you want to use make-ssl-cert |
| 01:29.14 | freaky_t | ok thank you ill search |
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| 01:33.35 | Sisk | Is there a way to see the auto detected modeline xorg is currently using? As in I don't have a modeline specified and want to copy the one I'm using to another computer for use on a VGA input TV that's not being detected properly. |
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| 01:36.03 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.20 | adb | audacious -v : Audacious 1.5.1 [UNSUPPORTED VERSION] |
| 01:36.35 | abrotman | strace it |
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| 01:38.24 | adb | --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ |
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| 01:40.03 | adb | worked before , purged + reinstalled get sg |
| 01:40.12 | adb | sf* |
| 01:40.32 | abrotman | it shuld give a lot more info than tat |
| 01:40.33 | abrotman | that |
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| 01:41.08 | adb | yes , what exactly to look |
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| 01:42.47 | bpun | streuner_, are u using madwifi for ur wireless? |
| 01:43.02 | bpun | or was it stew ? |
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| 01:44.46 | abrotman | adb: put the last 25 lines or so in a pastebin |
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| 01:45.49 | adb | http://paste.debian.net/33325/ |
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| 01:46.32 | Mood | is svn not available for debian> |
| 01:46.35 | Mood | debian?* |
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| 01:47.29 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.42 | Mood | ah, it's not svn, but subversion? |
| 01:47.58 | n3kl | um, yes |
| 01:48.07 | abrotman | adb: try playing a specific file with audacious from the CLI |
| 01:48.33 | adb | ok , i'll try |
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| 01:50.36 | adb | same sf |
| 01:53.28 | abrotman | adb: try playing a specific file with audacious from the CLI? |
| 01:53.33 | adb | http://paste.debian.net/33326/ |
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| 01:53.59 | abrotman | uh ... |
| 01:54.02 | abrotman | i didn't mean to say that :) |
| 01:54.15 | adb | and that is instantly done |
| 01:54.25 | abrotman | adb: sorry .. you lose karma for listening to Faith Hill |
| 01:54.34 | adb | heh |
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| 01:55.39 | abrotman | adb: does another player work ? |
| 01:55.48 | adb | yes , sure |
| 01:55.59 | adb | as , vlc |
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| 01:56.46 | Mood | adb: does speaker-test work? |
| 01:57.11 | adb | all sound is ok |
| 01:57.28 | aoeu | how do i install from a usb drive? |
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| 01:59.48 | sonnie | hi there, i updated xserver-xorg-core to 2:1.6.0-1 just now, but keyboard and mouse don't response when entering X. btw: i've been using dual-screen quite well. |
| 02:00.03 | octoserver | what is the current sound server used in testing? mine is frelled, how do I restart it? |
| 02:00.30 | octoserver | is is artsd? I dont see it in /etc/init.d ? |
| 02:00.33 | aoeu | can i clone a debian install by dd'ing the boot sector to a new drive, and then making a new partition and rsyncing everything over? |
| 02:00.39 | abrotman | octoserver: one of a dozen |
| 02:00.52 | octoserver | what is default though |
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| 02:01.00 | aoeu | like run dd from one drive to another, cancel it after a couple seconds, and make a new partition and copy all the files? |
| 02:01.01 | octoserver | i havent changed it |
| 02:01.04 | abrotman | depends what you have installed |
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| 02:01.44 | abrotman | adb: try `mv ~/.config/audacious ~/.config/audacious_old` and try starting it again |
| 02:02.03 | abrotman | adb: also try as a different user if you can |
| 02:02.17 | kindyroot | aoeu: I'm not sure, waiting for an answer too .. |
| 02:02.22 | adb | i will , thx |
| 02:02.42 | octoserver | abrotman: artsd is what was running, how do i restart it if it doesnt have a script ? |
| 02:02.55 | abrotman | aoeu: you want to copy it exactly? or just the packages installed ? |
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| 02:03.04 | abrotman | octoserver: kill it and start it ? i don't use kde |
| 02:03.06 | aoeu | abrotman, copy it exactly |
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| 02:03.24 | aoeu | i want to clone an install without having to resize partitions on the source drive to clone it |
| 02:03.25 | abrotman | aoeu: dd is one way .. tar is another |
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| 02:03.39 | Drew_CPHQ | Hey guys. My virtual host's for apache2 aren't working. I have them all specified in my httpd.conf and i've reloaded but they don't work |
| 02:03.40 | abrotman | well .. you'll have to resize unless you want wasted space i'd think |
| 02:03.57 | H4rd | how i can connect to secured wireless network with paassward and iknow thw password |
| 02:04.36 | abrotman | H4rd: with which OS? |
| 02:04.49 | H4rd | bt4 beta |
| 02:04.58 | H4rd | its built on debian |
| 02:05.09 | abrotman | H4rd: ask them, not us |
| 02:05.16 | abrotman | this channel is to support Debian |
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| 02:05.23 | adb | abrotman: mv conf done , thanks again |
| 02:05.30 | abrotman | adb: works now ? |
| 02:05.31 | H4rd | iam srr |
| 02:05.36 | adb | Yes |
| 02:05.41 | abrotman | adb: enjoy? |
| 02:05.43 | H4rd | have anice day all |
| 02:05.46 | jamon | Drew_CPHQ: use /etc/apache2/sites-available and a2ensite |
| 02:05.58 | adb | sure , thanks |
| 02:06.06 | jamon | Drew_CPHQ: httpd.conf isn't used much in debian |
| 02:06.11 | Drew_CPHQ | okay |
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| 02:08.13 | behappy | Hello , why I have windows tahoma font is not same linux tahoma font are different ?? so windows display fonts better than Linux is there some thing should be configured ?? |
| 02:08.14 | Drew_CPHQ | jamon: if i wanted to use it how would i fix this? :) |
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| 02:08.50 | infomomo | Guys thanks for your valuable inputs |
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| 02:09.28 | thasp_ | why does gtkam do this when i try to run it? http://pastebin.com/m531434a0 |
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| 02:10.51 | jamon | Drew_CPHQ: well you can make a new file with all your vhosts to start in /etc/apache2/sites-available/yoursites.com |
| 02:10.58 | Drew_CPHQ | ok |
| 02:10.59 | jamon | Drew_CPHQ: then a2ensite yoursites.com |
| 02:11.07 | Drew_CPHQ | thanks :) |
| 02:11.12 | abrotman | thasp_: don't run it as root |
| 02:11.16 | jamon | msg me if you need a hand Drew_CPHQ |
| 02:11.21 | thasp_ | i have to, if I don't, I can't see the camera |
| 02:11.27 | thasp_ | i U sed to be able to run it as root and see my camera |
| 02:11.30 | Drew_CPHQ | alright |
| 02:11.43 | thasp_ | i was hoping i could figure out how to make it work quicker than XP could install on my other laptop |
| 02:11.51 | jamon | thasp_: that's a matter of being in plugdev or some such group |
| 02:11.51 | abrotman | thasp_: then fix the permissions or add yourself to the correct group |
| 02:12.06 | abrotman | thasp_: which device in /dev/ is the camera? |
| 02:12.16 | jamon | or as abrotman says, add a udev rule to fix permissions |
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| 02:12.30 | abrotman | votes for group stuff first if possible |
| 02:12.36 | thasp_ | abrotman: if i knew how i would |
| 02:12.44 | thasp_ | but i never had to do that to use a camera before |
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| 02:12.48 | abrotman | thasp_: what is the device ? |
| 02:13.02 | thasp_ | i don't know, let me plug it in again |
| 02:13.03 | abrotman | like ... /dev/video0 ? |
| 02:13.06 | thasp_ | konqueror tries to open it and fails |
| 02:13.33 | empiric1 | guys i want to run alfresco on debian |
| 02:13.34 | empiric1 | ? |
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| 02:13.48 | thasp_ | konqueror tries to open /media/camera |
| 02:13.54 | jamon | empiric1: try through tomcat then |
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| 02:14.08 | abrotman | thasp_: it's a video camera? webcam ? |
| 02:14.17 | jamon | empiric1: their documentation is good too, not much we can do here unless someone else has direct experience with it |
| 02:14.19 | thasp_ | it's a canon powershot camera |
| 02:14.23 | thasp_ | it has an SD card |
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| 02:14.50 | abrotman | thasp_: ls -ld /media/camera/ |
| 02:15.06 | thasp_ | ls: cannot access /media/camera: No such file or directory |
| 02:15.16 | thasp_ | it does that with mp3 players, too. |
| 02:15.19 | jamon | thasp_: i'm guessing plugdev for the group since it will show up as a usb device |
| 02:15.35 | thasp_ | it'll show up as /dev/sd* but in konqueror as /media/whatever and you can't access /media/whatever from anything but konqueror |
| 02:15.49 | thasp_ | plugdev for the group |
| 02:16.01 | jamon | yup, add yourself to that group and you'll be all set |
| 02:16.10 | jamon | had the same problem with my pentax camera |
| 02:16.24 | jamon | (sorry to hijack there abrotman ;) |
| 02:16.40 | adb | cat /etc/group | grep plugdev |
| 02:16.43 | empiric1 | jamon i have download an insaller for linux from alfresco.com now how i install |
| 02:17.10 | empiric1 | http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Debian_Installation this link says a communiy version |
| 02:17.17 | abrotman | jamon: nope .. fine |
| 02:17.25 | thasp_ | i did that and my regular user still can't see the camera and my root user can't open gtkam |
| 02:17.34 | empiric1 | i download enterprise version which need GUI to install |
| 02:18.24 | jamon | empiric1: if it is an installer, chmod +x file.run |
| 02:18.33 | empiric1 | i did |
| 02:18.50 | thasp_ | woot windows finished installing |
| 02:19.00 | thasp_ | now i can take my piktars off my project without a science project. excellent |
| 02:19.13 | jamon | empiric1: ah, well try using the .war file they provide with tomcat |
| 02:19.38 | jamon | empiric1: tomcat is a good container |
| 02:19.42 | empiric1 | ./Alfresco-Enterprise-3.0.0-Linux-x86-Install |
| 02:19.42 | empiric1 | Alfresco-Enterprise-3.0.0-Linux-x86-Install: dl-open.c:438: dl_open_worker: Assertion `imap->l_type == lt_loaded' failed. |
| 02:19.42 | empiric1 | Aborted |
| 02:20.25 | empiric1 | where is .war file |
| 02:20.31 | jamon | on their site |
| 02:21.29 | empiric1 | can u send me link |
| 02:21.49 | abrotman | empiric1: you shold probably ask them |
| 02:22.11 | jamon | empiric1: also, if you're going to be running it, i'd really suggest doing a lot of research |
| 02:22.24 | jamon | it isn't a simple untar and run php cms |
| 02:23.12 | jamon | e.g. you'll need to tune your java settings, choose the correct dbms for your needs, file storage etc. |
| 02:23.23 | empiric1 | what u suggest i need an interanet portal where i put adn share documnets , blogs , news |
| 02:23.37 | empiric1 | have invidual site for all users |
| 02:24.02 | abrotman | empiric1: which version of debian is this? |
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| 02:25.50 | empiric1 | my uetch |
| 02:25.54 | empiric1 | its etch |
| 02:26.01 | empiric1 | i can use lenney as well |
| 02:28.08 | betz | If i want to install proftpd on a debian 4 installation with plesk, do i have to choose for xinetd or standalone? Tried 2times standalone and had to reinstall debian with plesk again because things totally were screwed up. plesk wont startup. |
| 02:28.30 | betz | So, or i need to be sure what was causing that problem each time and howto do it right, or i try a other ftpserver. Any suggestions? |
| 02:28.49 | jamon | betz: i'm going to highly recommend not using plesk, it'll solve practically all your problems |
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| 02:29.17 | jamon | betz: if you're 110% stuck with it, use its defaults, and check on their forums |
| 02:29.23 | betz | jamon: pure ssh then? or a other web cp |
| 02:29.59 | jamon | betz: well i like ssh and wouldn't have it any other way |
| 02:30.17 | jamon | but there are open source cps that don't install custom binaries etc. |
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| 02:31.05 | jamon | webmin, ehcp, gnupanel |
| 02:31.09 | betz | is having a dillema |
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| 02:31.32 | abrotman | jamon: did you seriously just tell someone webmin was okay? |
| 02:31.35 | jamon | betz: plesk is evil, i support it at work and despise it |
| 02:31.43 | jamon | abrotman: compared to plesk, absolutely |
| 02:31.45 | empiric1 | abrotman? |
| 02:31.48 | empiric1 | jamon? |
| 02:31.50 | abrotman | bob? |
| 02:31.56 | jamon | empiric1? |
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| 02:32.13 | empiric1 | yes |
| 02:32.54 | empiric1 | and gud documents managemnet system + have blogs , community section , new section and web based |
| 02:33.01 | empiric1 | opensource thing u kn? |
| 02:33.23 | jamon | empiric1: how much coding are you willing to do? |
| 02:33.51 | abrotman | there is a 'panel' in debian ... |
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| 02:34.24 | abrotman | too bad i can never remember the name |
| 02:34.26 | empiric1 | well no coding a cutom built is ok |
| 02:34.47 | abrotman | ah .. dtc |
| 02:35.10 | betz | empiric1: u know drupal? sounds like this is the thing for you |
| 02:35.23 | jamon | empiric1: try something modular like drupal, typo3, typolite, joomla first |
| 02:35.33 | freaky_t | hi all anyone familiar with postfix im trying to enable tls but i get these errors: http://rafb.net/p/Pnajsr70.html i've done it using the tutorial at http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/postfix_tls_support.html |
| 02:35.35 | betz | drupall!!! ;) |
| 02:35.42 | empiric1 | its a content mgt thing |
| 02:35.45 | jamon | betz: i'm a drupal fan too |
| 02:35.56 | empiric1 | i need sm thing like share point server in winodws |
| 02:36.20 | careta | hey everybody |
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| 02:36.52 | jamon | empiric1: try typo3, it does documents i think |
| 02:37.10 | jamon | empiric1: http://typo3.com/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2Ffilelist.gif&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20style%3D%22margin%3A0%3B%20background%3A%23fff%3B%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose()%3B%22%3E%20|%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=aac377bef2394d28a1a709d3a7aabd42 |
| 02:37.14 | jamon | oh god.. |
| 02:37.23 | abrotman | ends in 42! |
| 02:37.34 | jamon | true :) |
| 02:37.36 | careta | windows changed my time settings. now inside debian i have the correct hour, but my bios time is different. how can i set the bios/computer time in debian? |
| 02:37.36 | betz | nice link you've got there :) |
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| 02:39.24 | jpinx | can I get ls -al in octal format? |
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| 02:39.32 | jamon | freaky_t: postfix has ssl with debian by default iirc |
| 02:39.43 | freaky_t | it doesnt work |
| 02:40.49 | empiric1 | jamon wht abt liferay? |
| 02:41.04 | jamon | empiric1: that's worse than alfresco by a factor of 10 |
| 02:41.25 | jamon | course this is my biased support perspective |
| 02:41.35 | jamon | but customers who choose it always end up needing the most support |
| 02:41.52 | jamon | whereas the alfresco folk know what they're about and require far less server resources |
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| 02:42.29 | jamon | freaky_t: post your main.cf, sounds like something is not configured correctly |
| 02:42.31 | empiric1 | ok i am trying typo3 |
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| 02:42.58 | jamon | cool empiric1 |
| 02:43.46 | freaky_t | jamon http://rafb.net/p/vETka064.html |
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| 02:43.53 | bpun | any script experts about how wireless should be set? |
| 02:44.22 | bpun | wonders when ip link set wlan0 up -- comes into play in order for scanning to work |
| 02:46.18 | jamon | freaky_t: that looks pretty standard ssl wise, have you tried creating your own key/cert and using that? |
| 02:46.33 | freaky_t | i think i need a CA too? |
| 02:46.40 | freaky_t | no i didnt i've done it using that tutorial |
| 02:46.44 | freaky_t | @ jamon |
| 02:46.45 | jamon | freaky_t: nah, self-sign, the postfix certs are |
| 02:46.56 | freaky_t | yea i signed them myself |
| 02:47.06 | freaky_t | using that tutorial |
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| 02:48.47 | freaky_t | so what should i do now? |
| 02:49.11 | freaky_t | i need a tutorial |
| 02:49.13 | freaky_t | :\ |
| 02:49.15 | freaky_t | which works |
| 02:49.21 | jamon | freaky_t: i think you need to make sure you've created the certs correctly |
| 02:49.22 | abrotman | and a new enter key! |
| 02:49.55 | freaky_t | jamon i've done the tutorial twice and i've created them as described there |
| 02:50.11 | enyawix | can the mad wifi drivers go into the debian package database? |
| 02:50.42 | freaky_t | :( |
| 02:50.47 | enyawix | ? |
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| 02:51.21 | jamon | freaky_t: try it manually, http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_test_certificate.html |
| 02:51.50 | gaintsura_ | enyawix: why? |
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| 02:52.33 | freaky_t | jamon with that tutorial the keys have pass phrases but i dont sit in front of the server when it restarts so i cant give a pass on every start? |
| 02:52.40 | abrotman | enyawix: they already are |
| 02:52.55 | abrotman | judd: versions madwifi-source |
| 02:52.56 | judd | abrotman: madwifi-source -- etch/non-free: 1:0.9.2+r1842.20061207-2etch2 lenny/non-free: 1:0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1 sid/non-free: 1:0.9.4+r3772.20080716-1 |
| 02:53.05 | abrotman | and ath5k is in the kernel |
| 02:53.10 | enyawix | gaintsura_: one of the kernel drivers is known to be broken and the hardware is common in new cheap laptops |
| 02:53.40 | freaky_t | jamon ah nm it's later in the tut |
| 02:53.41 | jamon | freaky_t: it tells you how to remove it, or you can go without the -des3 option and it won't bother with passphrase at all |
| 02:53.42 | enyawix | ath5k is the broken driver |
| 02:53.56 | abrotman | and madwifi is already available |
| 02:54.33 | enyawix | madwifi? i could not find it i just built from source :( |
| 02:54.48 | abrotman | do you have non-free sources? |
| 02:55.14 | enyawix | i think the project is open |
| 02:55.31 | abrotman | !tell enyawix about madwifi install |
| 02:55.40 | abrotman | !tell enyawix about non-free |
| 02:55.42 | jamon | freaky_t: forgot to check, is this lenny or etch? i think etch has a postfix-tls virtual package you need |
| 02:55.46 | freaky_t | lenny |
| 02:55.49 | jamon | k |
| 02:56.07 | enyawix | lenny |
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| 02:56.55 | enyawix | i found a madwifi install howto on google |
| 02:57.03 | abrotman | okay .. then ignore us .. good plan |
| 02:57.05 | enyawix | the howto worked great |
| 02:57.11 | abrotman | then why are you even asking here? |
| 02:57.28 | enyawix | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.33 | abrotman | the bot just told you how |
| 02:57.35 | enyawix | if it exist |
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| 02:57.52 | enyawix | brb looking for bot output |
| 02:58.10 | enyawix | cool thanks |
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| 02:58.38 | enyawix | reading |
| 02:58.59 | bpun | enyawix, rtfm is good... |
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| 02:59.07 | bpun | :) |
| 02:59.54 | freaky_t | jamon now im getting this: |
| 02:59.54 | freaky_t | Apr 13 04:59:33 master postfix/master[9620]: daemon started -- version 2.5.5, configuration /etc/postfix |
| 02:59.54 | freaky_t | Apr 13 04:59:39 master postfix/smtpd[9626]: initializing the server-side TLS engine |
| 02:59.54 | freaky_t | Apr 13 04:59:39 master postfix/smtpd[9626]: cannot load Certificate Authority data |
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| 03:00.12 | freaky_t | sorry |
| 03:00.28 | enyawix | bpun: thanks |
| 03:00.35 | jamon | freaky_t: permissions? |
| 03:00.40 | freaky_t | jamon wait |
| 03:00.53 | bpun | enyawix, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci |
| 03:00.56 | jamon | check filenames too, easy mistake to make |
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| 03:01.02 | bpun | enyawix, says something about madwifi |
| 03:01.26 | freaky_t | jamon all can read |
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| 03:02.06 | Lethargy_4 | Anyone using kernel 2.6.29 with ndiswrapper? |
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| 03:02.39 | Lethargy_4 | I just compiled a kernel and ndiswrapper wont compile the modules, a bug report has been filed but no solution posted. |
| 03:02.57 | jamon | freaky_t: if it can't load, check path and filename, then doublecheck |
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| 03:04.13 | freaky_t | i double checked jamon all seems right |
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| 03:04.22 | Firestarter | Lethargy_4: What error are you recieving? |
| 03:05.06 | Lethargy_4 | It was a compile error while making the module, happened in module assistant. |
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| 03:05.39 | bpun | there a command to start an application so that if i close the xterm box, other apps that were started with & dont get closed? |
| 03:05.40 | enyawix | bpun: thanks all is well |
| 03:05.45 | Lethargy_4 | also happened when doing the manual method, I was on a different machine a laptop but did note that a bug report had been filed. |
| 03:06.27 | enyawix | is kde non-free? |
| 03:06.32 | Lethargy_4 | On the laptop I have a working 2.6.25 kernel, with an older version of ndiswrapper. |
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| 03:07.00 | Firestarter | Lethargy_4: Is the 2.6.29 kernel required? |
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| 03:07.21 | Lethargy_4 | No, but since I need a compiled kernel I decided to just use the latest. |
| 03:07.26 | Sebos91_ | arschlöcher ihr |
| 03:07.26 | n3kl | I am trying to shrink an ext3 filesystem on an lvm volume, and I am getting Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. Why? |
| 03:07.39 | Sebos91_ | fuck you |
| 03:07.51 | enyawix | Sebos91_:? |
| 03:07.52 | Lethargy_4 | did not really want to use a 2.6.26 source when something else is out. |
| 03:07.54 | Sebos91_ | motherfucker |
| 03:08.09 | Lethargy_4 | This is on a i386 machine a pentium III laptop. |
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| 03:08.59 | Lethargy_4 | It's a thinkpad x20 running lenny with newer kernel. |
| 03:09.10 | Firestarter | Lethargy_4: I'm using the 2.6.26 kernel and it works great here. |
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| 03:09.47 | Lethargy_4 | I am sure it would work, but I don't want to compile again as it takes like 3-5 hours on a Pentium III. |
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| 03:09.54 | pickcoder | is there a decent how-to for setting up ipv6 strictly on a lan? |
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| 03:10.34 | Lethargy_4 | It sounds like all I need is a cvs version of ndiswrapper which might solve the problem. |
| 03:11.25 | jpinx | I've found a script to make ls show octals. If I write it into a file, how do I create a special bash command to invoke it? |
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| 03:11.59 | Lethargy_4 | Weird part is my wireless card is atheros based, but my model is not supported by the free driver so I have to use ndiswrapper. |
| 03:12.22 | kriebel | jpinx: make a shell script and put it in your path... or put `alias lso ls -whateveryouwant` in your .barshrc |
| 03:12.40 | Lethargy_4 | It was a fluke, as the card is old, based on the first beta mimo/n cards. |
| 03:13.00 | jpinx | kriebel: thanks - I'll try that:) |
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| 03:18.34 | jpinx | kriebel: so far so good - it runs as it's filename, how can I make a short command like "lsoct" to run it? |
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| 03:20.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | rename it to be called lsoct? |
| 03:20.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | shakes his head |
| 03:20.37 | pickcoder | strangles ipv6 |
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| 03:21.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it's a rather short script and/or can be done in pure bash, try "help function" in bash |
| 03:22.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | notices that ipv6 is stronger and strangles right back |
| 03:22.11 | kriebel | jpinx: just name it lsoct instead of whatever it is. UNIX doesn't care about file names or extensions |
| 03:22.49 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm sick of reading conflicting how-tos |
| 03:22.59 | pickcoder | I just need 2 addresses to do socket code testing |
| 03:23.24 | jpinx | ok - I've put alias lo='/mnt/sda1/Linux.Commands/ls-oct.txt' in my .bashrc but it doesn't work. Do I need to restart something? |
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| 03:24.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | a new bash |
| 03:24.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | or do . ~/.bashrc |
| 03:24.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | or do ". ~/.bashrc" |
| 03:24.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | note 1st period |
| 03:25.58 | yonkeltron | i have asked for help on #exim and also looked at the docs yet still i am unable to figure out why i don't have any mailboxes at /var/mail. when i fire up mutt, i get an error that there is no file or directory called /var/mail/yonkeltron. i'm running squeeze with the default installation and have no mailboxes. is this a bug i need to report or have i don't something wrong? |
| 03:26.08 | gaintsura | source ~/.bashrc also works |
| 03:26.09 | jpinx | did that - with the first . so it was "dot space tilde slash dot bashrc" It ran without complaining, but still lo not working |
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| 03:26.30 | gaintsura | also try converting from ' to " |
| 03:26.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does type lo tell you |
| 03:27.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 03:27.18 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks - that'll let me debug it ;) |
| 03:27.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | chmod a+x /path/to/script ? |
| 03:27.40 | kriebel | yonkeltron: did you try sending yourself mail? |
| 03:27.45 | jpinx | I can see it points at the script now for permissions |
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| 03:28.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | can you run the script without the alias? |
| 03:28.21 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
| 03:28.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | the alias should be fine |
| 03:28.38 | jpinx | checks again for typos |
| 03:28.48 | yonkeltron | kriebel: i have scripts which should be sending me mail but there is nothing there |
| 03:28.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I would rename it and put it in /7usr/7local/bin |
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| 03:29.38 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: got it now:) |
| 03:29.43 | yonkeltron | kriebel: also, i have sent myself mail from mutt and it still does not create a mailbox for me |
| 03:30.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | also very usual is $HOME/bin |
| 03:30.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | and adding that to $PATH |
| 03:30.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | your approach is ... rather unusual |
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| 03:31.23 | jpinx | ok - there's a variable - the script runs in the directory it's called from but I want to do something like cd /dir/to/lo && lo && cd /where/I/was. I'd like to add the dir I am trying to lo as part of the command |
| 03:31.38 | jpinx | CutMeOwnThroat: it's the old way ;) |
| 03:31.59 | kriebel | old? |
| 03:32.26 | jpinx | yea - I first started hitting a keyboard in the 1970's :p |
| 03:32.44 | kriebel | octal is fine, it's screwy paths that are trouble |
| 03:33.01 | kriebel | you'll confuse yourself very quickly |
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| 03:33.29 | kriebel | you can just pass the dir you want to list as an argument |
| 03:33.39 | kriebel | but usually, people work in the dir they're in |
| 03:33.48 | kriebel | you can also push and pop dirs with bash |
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| 03:34.32 | yonkeltron | push and pop with bash is gold |
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| 03:34.49 | kriebel | I never remember to do it, but it is a great feature |
| 03:35.02 | jpinx | ok - the command is now lsoct (to avoid confusion), and I just want it to do lsoct /some/dir |
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| 03:37.22 | jpinx | it's not doing that by just typing "lsoct /some/dir" so I need to do something here - someone clue me a bit please? |
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| 03:38.00 | kriebel | yeah, if I can remember |
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| 03:38.04 | jpinx | knows this is 1st year computer studies, but he never went to computer school |
| 03:39.41 | kriebel | I really reccomend you make this an alias |
| 03:40.01 | kriebel | it sounds like something they're good for |
| 03:40.26 | kriebel | but you can add the argument $* at the end of `ls ...` in your script |
| 03:40.34 | jpinx | kriebel: it is an alias in my .bashrc |
| 03:40.35 | kriebel | which means "all the arguments to this script" |
| 03:41.17 | KC | what line would I add to sources to get the dvd as the working repository? |
| 03:41.29 | jpinx | is there a space before that $* ? |
| 03:41.48 | kriebel | jpinx: if you think there should be one, then put one |
| 03:41.50 | kriebel | this isn't DOS |
| 03:41.55 | kriebel | so I'm going to say... yes |
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| 03:42.07 | jpinx | heh |
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| 03:42.15 | krgn | beep |
| 03:42.36 | krgn | what is the proper way to do cross-compilation (of kernels)? |
| 03:42.59 | krgn | I find a lot of info but most seems old and I just want to be sure I'm doing it right |
| 03:43.08 | sepult | get distcc |
| 03:43.21 | krgn | ah ok |
| 03:43.30 | jpinx | ok - I'm afraid that choked the script kriebel |
| 03:43.40 | krgn | sepult: I heard of it, but didn't look into it yet |
| 03:43.51 | sepult | krgn: you need a lot packages |
| 03:43.56 | kriebel | jpinx: paste your script into #flood |
| 03:44.08 | jpinx | it won't run with $* on the end - tells me awk: read error (Is a directory) |
| 03:44.11 | sepult | not only that, also multilib versions of your libraries and also binutils etc... |
| 03:44.19 | kriebel | gah! awk? |
| 03:44.35 | kriebel | I thought this was an option to ls, but I see that it isn't |
| 03:44.44 | krgn | sepult: right - is there a standardised way of doing/maintaining a setup? |
| 03:44.54 | sepult | krgn: not that i know of |
| 03:45.08 | krgn | sepult: darn |
| 03:45.19 | sepult | krgn: there may be a package which covers that all, but i'm not aware of it |
| 03:45.24 | jpinx | it's in #flood kriebel |
| 03:45.57 | sepult | krgn: and some of the libraries may be dependend on the -dev versions of your libs too |
| 03:46.10 | krgn | sepult: hm yes, I was halfway on my way building binutils and gcc but wanted to double check so that I don't do all this crap for nothing :) |
| 03:46.37 | martin54321 | using gnome-terminal I unchecked the "view --> show menu" option. How to get the menu back? |
| 03:46.42 | sepult | krgn: have a look for a package named like crossdev |
| 03:46.55 | sepult | krgn: apt-cache search ^cross |
| 03:47.39 | sepult | you maybe include the gnulib and the posixlib |
| 03:47.58 | sepult | there are other platfrom libs too |
| 03:48.14 | krgn | sepult: I see, thanks |
| 03:49.27 | sepult | krgn: one thing is your attitude is wrong in trying to find a package which does it all, linux is a multitool toolkit |
| 03:50.07 | sepult | krgn: i.e. you'll have to use many tools for a job, sometimes you can reduce the amount to maybe 3 or 5 though |
| 03:50.09 | krgn | sepult: I suppose, but then one can get further faster if there are automisations for things like these :) |
| 03:50.37 | krgn | sepult: see multilib efforts etc... |
| 03:51.11 | krgn | sepult: but I get your point |
| 03:51.13 | sepult | krgn: if there is an automation it will most likely be commercial |
| 03:52.15 | krgn | sepult: there are a few things I found.. dpkg-cross for example which converts packages |
| 03:52.22 | \amethyst | krgn: http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2007/01/21/cross-compile-the-linux-kernel-on-debian/ |
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| 03:52.29 | \amethyst | krgn: may be useful? |
| 03:52.32 | sepult | krgn: you can install them all |
| 03:52.59 | krgn | \amethyst: ah yes, I came across that. I get quite a few problems because I am missing binutils I think |
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| 03:53.39 | krgn | \amethyst: but thanks for looking :) |
| 03:54.33 | sepult | is embedian only available in sid ? |
| 03:54.33 | \amethyst | krgn: embdebian should have a binutils-arch-linux-subarch package too |
| 03:55.23 | krgn | wow\ |
| 03:55.35 | krgn | I think I didn't quite get it the first time! |
| 03:55.41 | \amethyst | krgn: thought I don't know if you'd have to take special efforts beyond setting CROSS_COMPILE to get the build to use it |
| 03:56.45 | krgn | \amethyst: didn't realy know either, but I'll try this tutorial again and see what happen |
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| 04:09.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, you mean old as in "before people had common sense"? :-P |
| 04:11.14 | jpinx | heh :p |
| 04:11.31 | jpinx | is making progress in ls octals |
| 04:13.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx, and that was lame advice, I think - parameters are passed with "$@" everything else fails with filenames containing spaces or so |
| 04:14.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | and man, you're old |
| 04:15.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | were there any keyboards in 1970?s |
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| 04:19.32 | zophy[] | CutMeOwnThroat, when did people get common sense ? |
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| 04:20.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 04:20.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess I need more time to answer this |
| 04:21.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | say... a 100 years? |
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| 04:21.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 04:21.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | make that "before people invented common sense" |
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| 04:22.55 | ryanCH | when i do "import -window root myscr.png" it doesn't get the desktop effects like, "window transparency" everything is solid, is there a way around this? |
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| 04:28.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably not |
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| 04:29.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | you couldl try the gimp for screenshots |
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| 04:31.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps I should change my leave-message to "buy viagra now" |
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| 04:39.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | couldn't be worse than vituperating priests |
| 04:40.06 | kash_ | how do i change the speed of the fans in my computer? |
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| 04:40.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | good question |
| 04:40.46 | jetscreamer | there's a fan thingy |
| 04:40.48 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 04:40.52 | jetscreamer | hang on |
| 04:40.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 04:40.54 | jetscreamer | ah crap wrong os |
| 04:40.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | helpful as ever |
| 04:40.58 | kash_ | cpu fan, i mean |
| 04:41.03 | kash_ | i suggested a hammer |
| 04:41.11 | kash_ | but no one at my company liked that idea |
| 04:41.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm |
| 04:41.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | screwdriver could also do it |
| 04:41.30 | kash_ | too noisy in the office with the loud dual QX9775's |
| 04:41.45 | kash_ | but i wanted a software way to do this |
| 04:41.47 | kash_ | :) |
| 04:41.58 | kash_ | go go go, brainstorm :D |
| 04:41.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | lm-sensors has fancontrol |
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| 04:42.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha, I thought it gotta be lm-sensor |
| 04:42.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | s |
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| 04:43.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I never used that |
| 04:43.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it doesn't work for me |
| 04:43.38 | kash_ | acpi? |
| 04:43.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | the whole lm-sensors thing doesn't on the laptop |
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| 04:43.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | apt-cache show lm-sensors |
| 04:43.59 | kash_ | wrong window |
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| 04:44.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, need to run pwmconfig first |
| 04:44.46 | jetscreamer | lm-sensors, apparently... it supplies a program named 'fancontrol' |
| 04:44.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 04:44.52 | jetscreamer | i guess it controls the fan |
| 04:44.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | too late |
| 04:44.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | !lose jetscreamer |
| 04:44.58 | dpkg | jetscreamer: You Lose. |
| 04:45.04 | jetscreamer | o |
| 04:45.10 | jetscreamer | hey i had to reboot |
| 04:45.30 | kash_ | i came in here with my friend who is new to linux to show him how fast he could get help if he needed it |
| 04:45.33 | kash_ | thanks guys :D |
| 04:45.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, complain about my unfair advantage :) |
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| 04:45.49 | kash_ | btw |
| 04:45.55 | kash_ | the time for that was 5 min |
| 04:45.57 | kash_ | ish |
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| 04:46.13 | kash_ | and like thats way faster than microsoft help u have to pay 4 LOL |
| 04:46.20 | kash_ | lmfao |
| 04:46.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, but he gotta pay as well |
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| 04:46.35 | kash_ | who |
| 04:46.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | you |
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| 04:46.48 | kash_ | for? :( |
| 04:47.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | now there'll be no other way but learn enough so you can help others and give it back in a year or so :.-P |
| 04:47.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 04:48.15 | kash_ | oh, i'm quite an expert in nix, but he's newb with motivation |
| 04:48.17 | kash_ | lol |
| 04:49.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | then it applies to him |
| 04:49.06 | kash_ | we're just a) baked and b) amused. he says you've convinced him to move to the open source initiative headquarters and help RMS with his GNU thing |
| 04:49.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 04:49.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | that'll be the least! |
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| 04:49.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 04:49.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | "his GNU thing" |
| 04:49.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | that sounds... kinda scary |
| 04:50.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure that isn't a way to.... oh forget it |
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| 04:52.14 | alnr | is there a any package like kdirstat with a smaller footprint (eg doesnt need kde)? |
| 04:52.43 | martin54321 | is there a bigger security risk if I start ssh client as a root? |
| 04:53.00 | martin54321 | or is it wiser to start ssh client as a regular user? |
| 04:53.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does kdirstat do?s |
| 04:53.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've nearly never found a reason to start it as root |
| 04:53.34 | alnr | CutMeOwnThroat: gives a visual representation of the relative sizes of all folders |
| 04:54.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | alnr, oh, I only knew gdmap, perhaps try that |
| 04:54.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's probably the gnome equivalent |
| 04:54.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | martin54321, what *is* the reason you want to run it as root?s |
| 04:54.39 | alnr | ah yep exactly. i'll see if i have space for that :) |
| 04:54.46 | martin54321 | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, I'll start as a regular user then |
| 04:55.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | and there is no inherent additional risk - except the usual things |
| 04:56.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | like... every security flaw gives an attacker root instantly instead of a user account |
| 04:57.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | what I normally dont allow though, is for incoming ssh to log in as root |
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| 04:59.48 | martin54321 | CutMeOwnThroat: but don't you lose a lot of functionality like this? |
| 05:00.09 | krisfremen | you can always sudo su ... |
| 05:00.21 | martin54321 | ok |
| 05:00.42 | martin54321 | but what is the idea of not allowing direct root login? |
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| 05:03.25 | krisfremen | well, if you don't allow root, the attacker has to find out what your username is first... |
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| 05:07.39 | martin54321 | what is a good bold font for gnome-terminal? |
| 05:08.07 | miksuh | krisfremen: security through obscurity is not really security |
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| 05:09.56 | miksuh | but yep root should not be allowed to login though ssh |
| 05:10.05 | miksuh | through |
| 05:10.35 | miksuh | better to login as a normal user and then su to root if nesessary |
| 05:11.38 | empiric1 | jjamon u there? |
| 05:13.10 | alnr | i just had apt-get crap out due to no disk space now i get errors like Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org unstable/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_unstable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory). how can i clean this up? |
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| 05:13.40 | martin54321 | if I have logged in via ssh into a machine, how can I log out? I know I can close the gnome-terminal window, but is there some other smarter way? |
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| 05:14.56 | kaeles | two questions, first is, I am using misterhouse to do some home automation stuff, and it is "supposed" to have libdb3, only libdb4+ is in the repo's, and was wondering if it was a "bad idea" to use a newer version, not that it really has anything to do with debian..., the second was, I'm installing some perl modules and was wondering is using apt is better than cpan for any reason. |
| 05:15.13 | grendal_prime | hey guys figured out what was wrong with that sever. |
| 05:16.02 | zophy[] | what ? |
| 05:16.26 | zophy[] | tell us what you got from sally server, oh boy |
| 05:16.48 | grendal_prime | well the good news..it wasnt compromized...bad news..the hd was failing |
| 05:17.10 | kaeles | oh, and if I install somethign via cpan it uses some sort of repository too, i wonder if the libdb would be the same version from cpan... |
| 05:17.28 | grendal_prime | but i pulled a little trick with the hd an managed to get the db and configs off it..before it went to ide hell. |
| 05:18.11 | grendal_prime | replacement server is done now waiting for pickup |
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| 05:21.27 | liable | what was pinging then? |
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| 05:30.06 | gaintsura | my buddy had to upgrade his kernel to the xen kernel, but when he tries to boot it it wont let him, I discovered that it didn't actually generate the image itself... how can I tell the system to rebuild the kernel stuff needed for boot for the xen kernel (not his currently running one) |
| 05:30.34 | gaintsura | he can still boot with the original kernel |
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| 05:31.08 | Daniel10_ | anybody own a gateway mx4739 with a rlt8187b wireless card? or have any luck with one? |
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| 05:31.41 | brian|lfs | any one know of a good multi channel sound card that is pci-e and will work in linux? |
| 05:32.12 | brian|lfs | I see that the |
| 05:32.12 | brian|lfs | Xonar DX is support in linux but I'm unsure of if it will do multi channel out of the box or not |
| 05:32.24 | empiric1 | jamon u there |
| 05:32.24 | empiric1 | ? |
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| 05:33.11 | dbbolton | what is the lightest (in terms of memory footprint) terminal emulator that allows copy/paste ? |
| 05:33.12 | brian|lfs | I'm kind of surprised I found a table of sound cards that are supported by alsa but it dont' say if the cards can do multi channel or not out of the box |
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| 05:34.43 | jetscreamer | xterm? |
| 05:34.57 | Daniel10_ | xterm allows copy/paste? |
| 05:35.09 | Daniel10_ | i'm using it now and can't copy/paste |
| 05:35.10 | dbbolton | i don't think so ... |
| 05:35.16 | brian|lfs | if your running gnome gnome-terminal allows copy paste |
| 05:35.29 | sicilian_13 | use pastebin instead man |
| 05:35.37 | Daniel10_ | you can run gnome-terminal in fluxbox though |
| 05:35.56 | brian|lfs | thats true |
| 05:36.24 | dbbolton | im using xfce4-terminal now, but it uses a fair amount of memory. i only have 128 mb |
| 05:36.32 | Daniel10_ | bbrun added to fluxbox and you can launch xterm or gnome-terminal |
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| 05:37.49 | Daniel10_ | is there a way to strip a .inf file from a .sys windows wireless driver? |
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| 05:40.06 | cahoot | Daniel10_: what 'driver'? |
| 05:40.22 | Daniel10_ | rlt8187b wireless driver |
| 05:40.34 | Daniel10_ | it's from my windows partition |
| 05:40.44 | Daniel10_ | my card isn't recognized by debian |
| 05:40.53 | Daniel10_ | it sees it but not as an interface |
| 05:41.30 | Daniel10_ | it sees it as a usb:unclaimed device |
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| 05:41.49 | Daniel10_ | when lshw is run |
| 05:41.51 | gigo | hi. I need help to start ftpd. I installed in this manner: aptitude install ftpd |
| 05:41.57 | gigo | but I can't find anything in /etc/init.d to start |
| 05:42.00 | gigo | please help me. |
| 05:42.40 | Daniel10_ | ftpd? |
| 05:43.13 | gigo | yes |
| 05:43.29 | Daniel10_ | i meant what is ftpd |
| 05:43.35 | gigo | ftp daemon |
| 05:43.40 | Daniel10_ | oh |
| 05:43.49 | Daniel10_ | try typing ftpd in a terminal |
| 05:44.36 | stew | gigo: it would start via inetd |
| 05:44.44 | gigo | command does not work |
| 05:45.00 | gigo | stew: no other way to start it? |
| 05:45.07 | empiric1 | jamon? |
| 05:45.20 | stew | gigo: i'm not sure. i've never used the netkit ftpd, i don't think many people do |
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| 05:45.49 | gigo | stew: what do you recommend? |
| 05:46.23 | stew | gigo: vsftpd or pure-ftpd or maybe proftpd |
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| 05:47.33 | gigo | installed proftpd thanks. |
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| 05:47.40 | gigo | it is present in /etc/init.d/proftpd |
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| 05:49.15 | Daniel10_ | any advice on realtek wireless drivers? my network device isn't detected except as an unclaimed usb device (it's integrated though) |
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| 05:50.08 | Firenight | hey |
| 05:50.09 | grendal__prime | liable: on the pinging...i dont know |
| 05:50.24 | Firenight | What disks do I need of Debian 5 for an install?? |
| 05:50.33 | Firenight | all of them or just the first one |
| 05:51.07 | grendal__prime | but i can tell you this the os was going in and out of read only mode...very werid. then the hd started throwing errors. There were several strange things happeing because the filesystem was in ro mode. |
| 05:51.46 | ar0nic | grendal__prime |
| 05:51.50 | ar0nic | just install windows 7 |
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| 05:52.13 | Daniel10_ | whoops for win 7 |
| 05:52.17 | grendal__prime | I pluged diff drive in it and that was acting werd as well. Aparently a brown out, something else was cooked i think as well...drive controller maybe? |
| 05:52.23 | Daniel10_ | win 7 + debian is good |
| 05:52.28 | grendal__prime | windows 7..hehehe |
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| 05:52.46 | Daniel10_ | it works good |
| 05:52.48 | Firenight | So no one has an answer for me? |
| 05:52.59 | Daniel10_ | i atleast have wireless |
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| 05:53.55 | grendal__prime | we are already stariting to hear windows 7 problem storys. As soon as the patches start comming in...its starts acting like a typical windows os. |
| 05:54.04 | Daniel10_ | true |
| 05:54.21 | Daniel10_ | firefox fails after the experimental update that just happened |
| 05:54.30 | minsa | Firenight, the first one should be fine... |
| 05:54.56 | Firenight | Just wanted to make sure before I downloaded it all over again |
| 05:55.02 | Daniel10_ | ok could i use my windows driver in linux for my wireless? |
| 05:55.07 | Firenight | *sigh* I broke grub in a system repair |
| 05:55.46 | minsa | after the install, just change the apt source to net .. |
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| 05:56.03 | Firenight | hmm alright I will try that |
| 05:56.14 | Firenight | thanks |
| 05:56.17 | minsa | if only grub is broken, you can fix it with a livecd... |
| 05:57.09 | PiousMinion | Anyone know why the debian "netinst" ISO is "135-175 MB", but if I use unetbootin to apply the netinst to my thumb drive it only consumes about 15mb ? |
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| 05:57.42 | Daniel10_ | in installs everything from the ftp server |
| 05:57.51 | grendal__prime | its shrunkified? |
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| 05:58.07 | grendal__prime | smallinated? |
| 05:58.18 | Daniel10_ | shrunkinated? |
| 05:58.27 | grendal__prime | PiousMinion: if i were you id just go with it.... |
| 05:58.36 | PiousMinion | So what is the extra 120-160 MB? |
| 05:58.51 | Daniel10_ | other distro's and configuration? |
| 05:58.55 | grendal__prime | aparently stuff that can downloaded at a later time. |
| 05:59.15 | Daniel10_ | needs help for wireless....sigh |
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| 05:59.49 | creative2bad | Does anyone know if is it possible to trigger proftpd to run a certain script file after a transfer is complete on debian? |
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| 06:01.15 | kaeles | if you are building an init.d script, do you have to create a pid file so that it knows how to kill the daemon? |
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| 06:11.54 | Pailaps | hi :) |
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| 06:12.18 | Pailaps | any ideas on how to find a package called libaudio? |
| 06:12.48 | Pailaps | its a dependancy for nomachine nxserver, but i cant seem to find it :( |
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| 06:13.31 | Pailaps | please give me a clue , itd be very appreciated |
| 06:13.38 | jlindsay | apt-cache search libaudio |
| 06:14.19 | creative2bad | then apt-get install <package> |
| 06:14.43 | Pailaps | ok, thank you, first i need to create a cache i guess |
| 06:14.56 | Pailaps | because its reporting invalid operation cache |
| 06:15.28 | jlindsay | Pailaps: No, read it again |
| 06:15.32 | grendal__prime | apt-get update? |
| 06:15.33 | mindeq | hi all, i have a question.. i have installed oidentd and it is running fine... but when i connect to irc , my ident is the same as shell's login i mena ident is static, but i need that every user which is using for example psybnc user, would have unique ident@ the same as the user:user is , my oidentd.conf is here http://www.pastebin.be/17787 |
| 06:15.47 | grendal__prime | im gonna watch someting on hulu and go to sleem |
| 06:15.50 | grendal__prime | sleep that is |
| 06:16.01 | Pailaps | jlindsay, yes, sorry , my bad |
| 06:16.20 | Pailaps | found the package now |
| 06:17.18 | WormFood | why the fuck does "man grub" suggest I use "info grub", but when I pull up info, it is just a fuckin' copy of the god damn man page? |
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| 06:17.31 | gueux | hi |
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| 06:17.45 | grendal__prime | wow |
| 06:18.05 | cahoot | WormFood: you're the man page isn't a copy of the info page? |
| 06:18.09 | gueux | I've got a warning with xpdf: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct, it gives me that at each time that I start it :( |
| 06:18.12 | grendal__prime | WormFood: has issues.(i do wonder the same thing though) |
| 06:18.16 | cahoot | add a sure |
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| 06:19.28 | Pailaps | what would be the most not resourcehungry window manager? |
| 06:19.42 | Pailaps | fluxbox? |
| 06:19.44 | Daniel10_ | fluxbox ftw |
| 06:20.09 | Daniel10_ | xfce ldce or something like that |
| 06:20.15 | Daniel10_ | openbox |
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| 06:20.27 | Daniel10_ | blackbox-though it's unsupported |
| 06:20.34 | Pailaps | something that works also with nomachine nxserver? |
| 06:20.59 | Pailaps | it expects me to install either gnome or kde :x |
| 06:21.28 | Pailaps | and im kinda tight on memory and cpu |
| 06:21.39 | Daniel10_ | fluxbox should be fine |
| 06:21.58 | Daniel10_ | you can run some gnome stuff from there if you want to also while keeping it lean |
| 06:22.28 | minsa | Pailaps.. ratpoison or ion |
| 06:22.40 | Daniel10_ | ion? |
| 06:22.44 | Daniel10_ | que es eso? |
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| 06:23.06 | minsa | Ion3 ? |
| 06:23.16 | Pailaps | ill go with fluxbox i think |
| 06:23.24 | Pailaps | or stick to gnome-lite package |
| 06:23.39 | minsa | or stumpwm for lisp-inclined |
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| 06:26.40 | WormFood | cahoot, that is correct |
| 06:26.56 | WormFood | I'm seriously lagged, that is why the slow response |
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| 06:27.05 | Pailaps | damn, epic fail |
| 06:27.12 | Pailaps | no go for fluxbox |
| 06:27.28 | Pailaps | i had to do apt-get install gnome-core gdm |
| 06:27.32 | Pailaps | :( |
| 06:28.34 | rvalles | fluxbox? |
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| 06:28.43 | rvalles | last time I tried that it didnt do utf8 properly |
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| 06:29.18 | WormFood | aw come on..that isn't epic |
| 06:29.21 | WormFood | just a minor fail |
| 06:30.06 | jair | anyone have done anywork with bind9 on lenny (stable)? |
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| 06:31.15 | jair | I am trying to understand the default configuration of the bind9 I have been reading the docs and also a couple of tutorials plus ARM but all of them configure and place the zone files or .db in different places |
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| 06:33.44 | jintxo | jair, I use bind9. I have everything in /etc/bind |
| 06:34.43 | jair | jintxo: hi how are you doing? |
| 06:34.51 | jair | thank you for answering |
| 06:34.52 | jintxo | very well, thank you :-) |
| 06:35.14 | jair | well the default have everything on that directory right? /etc/bind |
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| 06:35.51 | jair | jintxo: now I am very new in bind9 so I have been reading the ARM that comes with debian and a couple of documents online |
| 06:35.54 | jintxo | jair, in debian, yes. also take into account that named.conf is "broken" into 3 files, named.con, named.conf.local and named.conf.local for easier administration and upgrades |
| 06:36.17 | jintxo | oops, named.conf, named.conf.options and named.conf.local |
| 06:36.51 | jintxo | jair, what do you mean by "ARM" ? |
| 06:37.04 | jair | right => named.conf named.conf.local named.conf.options |
| 06:37.12 | jintxo | yup :-) |
| 06:37.16 | jair | Administrator Reference Manual |
| 06:37.18 | jair | I think |
| 06:37.20 | jintxo | ah |
| 06:37.41 | jair | anyway. so all the documents I read configure the zones in a different way |
| 06:38.04 | jintxo | jair, there is moe than one way to skin a cat, I guess :-) |
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| 06:38.21 | jair | jintxo: I have a network running already an older version of bind and running a different version of linux (sles10) |
| 06:38.30 | jair | hahaha |
| 06:38.37 | jair | well I guess so |
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| 06:39.01 | jair | so I will be migrating the current dns server to a lenny with version 9.5 of bind |
| 06:39.18 | jair | suse brake the config files in different places as well |
| 06:39.24 | jintxo | jair, in debian, it is expected that you define your sones in the .local file and your "personal" bind options in the .options file, that way the named.conf can be upgrded in the future wihtout breaking your setup |
| 06:39.39 | jair | at least debian keep everything in "/etc/bind" much better for me |
| 06:40.02 | jair | understand :) |
| 06:40.09 | jintxo | jair, and you can put your .db files wherever you want, but easiest is to keep them in /etc/bind as well |
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| 06:40.45 | jintxo | keep it simple :-p |
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| 06:40.56 | ryanCH | in kde 4+ .. in the systems notifications area .. there really are no sound options for maximize . minimize etc.. how do you add more sounds? |
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| 06:41.50 | jair | so if I will create a zone I should add the => http://paste.debian.net/33333/ |
| 06:41.59 | delaman | im having trouble setting up an ircd, should it be as easy as just installing it and then check the connection? |
| 06:42.19 | jair | jintxo: that should go to the file => named.conf.local |
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| 06:43.02 | jair | jintxo: ohhh there is where I am little confuse |
| 06:43.18 | jintxo | jair, no, each different zone CONTENT should go in a separate .db file. and you define what .db files to load for your zones in named.conf.local |
| 06:43.46 | jair | ohhhhh ok |
| 06:43.57 | jair | did you see the file I paste on debian.paste.net? |
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| 06:44.01 | jintxo | let me paste you my named.conf.local, gimme a sec, jair |
| 06:44.07 | jair | jintxo: ok |
| 06:44.13 | jair | jintxo: thank you so much |
| 06:45.01 | jintxo | jair, here's my named.conf.local -> http://paste.debian.net/33334/ |
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| 06:45.16 | jair | jintxo: let me check |
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| 06:45.59 | jintxo | jair, ok, as you see, al I am doing is telling it what zones to load |
| 06:46.22 | jintxo | and the zones must be defined each in a separate file, I'll paste you one when you're ready |
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| 06:46.48 | jair | jintxo: hold on. |
| 06:46.59 | jintxo | no hurries, no worries |
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| 06:47.41 | xoz_ | delaman: try ircd-hybrid |
| 06:48.04 | jair | jintxo: :) alright I have a couple of questions. on that file I noticed that you called your zone file alberguinn.com instead of alberguinn.com.db |
| 06:48.06 | xoz_ | delaman: run irssi and /connect localhost ... to check |
| 06:48.28 | jair | jintxo: can you call it whatever you want? like on the reverse zone you have it with the .db |
| 06:48.54 | jintxo | jair, yeah, the name of the file doesn't really matter, as long as the CONTENT isvalid. bind is very picky about content and will refuse to load an invalid zone file |
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| 06:49.20 | creative2bad | i know this channel isnt for proftpd .. but it seems like you guys know a lot about linux |
| 06:49.24 | creative2bad | is it possible to trigger proftpd to run a certain script file after a transfer is complete on debian? |
| 06:49.32 | jair | jintxo: ok. Let me explain what my situation is, I think I am getting to understand much much better now |
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| 06:50.38 | jair | jintxo: I have a local network which have a dns in place that resolve to the internet the address is "10.66.1.21" (example) |
| 06:51.07 | jair | jintxo: I am creating a server to replace that "10.66.1.21" server. |
| 06:51.23 | jair | the domain I want to resolve on my network is "chi.tecnet" |
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| 06:52.28 | jair | so I have this files on "/etc/bind" => db.0 db.127 db.255 db.chi.tecnet db.empty db.local db.root named.conf named.conf.local named.conf.options rndc.key zones.rfc1918 |
| 06:53.38 | jintxo | jair, looking good so far :-) you need to reference your db.chi.tecnet file in named.conf.local just like I do with my alberguinn.com file |
| 06:53.40 | jair | jintxo: this is what I have so far on my named.conf.local => http://paste.debian.net/33335/ |
| 06:54.18 | jair | jintxo: I guess I need to create a file for reverse => db.192.168.223 |
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| 06:54.30 | jintxo | jair, don't worry about reverse until you get regular dnsworking |
| 06:54.35 | jair | ok |
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| 06:55.11 | jair | jintxo: did you see my named.conf.local => http://paste.debian.net/33335/ |
| 06:55.25 | jintxo | jair, I would replace the filenames with "full paths" like "file /etc/bind/db.chi.technet" just in case |
| 06:55.36 | jair | got it |
| 06:56.05 | jintxo | and then when you got that all you need to do is have a VALID db.chi.tecnet file, restart bind and you're set :-) |
| 06:56.22 | jair | jintxo: what I did to create the file db.chi.technet was copy and rename the file => db.empty |
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| 06:56.49 | jintxo | jair, let me paste you mine and use it as a "base" because mine is working so it should work for you to |
| 06:56.51 | jair | jintxo: what do you mean with a valid db.chi.tecnet file :( |
| 06:57.01 | jair | ok |
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| 06:57.08 | jintxo | jair, I mean that the contents of the file must be correct or bind will not load it |
| 06:57.37 | jair | hmmm |
| 06:57.37 | jair | ok |
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| 06:57.56 | WormFood | does anyone know exactly what I need to do, to configure my sound card for "6 channel" audio (where the line input and mic input become outputs)? /dev/sndstat says "ALSA emulation", "HDA Intel" and "ALC888 Analog" (relevant info) |
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| 06:58.23 | WormFood | I *know* it is a software configuration, because I can change it with software under winblows |
| 06:58.33 | jair | jintxo: what will happen if I have two dns servers master running on the same network reslving for all clients? but these two servers are two different ips and versions of bind |
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| 06:59.33 | cahoot | WormFood: doesn't aplay -L list surround51? |
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| 06:59.56 | jintxo | jair, it should work, I guess as long as they both answer queries with the same info |
| 07:00.14 | jair | I see |
| 07:00.21 | jintxo | jair, here's my zone file: http://paste.debian.net/33336/ |
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| 07:00.35 | jair | jintxo: because my goal is replace the previous one with the new one |
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| 07:01.17 | Pailaps | finally, eureka |
| 07:01.19 | jintxo | jair, I understand :-) that means you probably already have a valid zone file that you can copy from the old one to the new one |
| 07:01.22 | Pailaps | :) |
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| 07:02.00 | cahoot | WormFood: perhaps this might help: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml |
| 07:02.32 | jair | jintxo: but I want to first understand bind9 and how it works then it will be easier for me to do the migration |
| 07:03.06 | jintxo | jair, very honorable goal. understanding what you administer is crucial |
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| 07:05.01 | jair | jintxo: :) I appreciate your help. I have a couple of questions about your zone file. on the line 14 is that the ip address of your server bind9? |
| 07:05.04 | WormFood | sorry for the slow response, I'm very badly lagged right now....checking your suggestions cahoot |
| 07:05.27 | zhangweiwu | Hello. Is there a way to convert \n\r to \r? sed seems doesn't work in such case (yes i know it's unusual, usual case is \r\n) |
| 07:05.34 | WormFood | cahoot, yes, aplay -L does list all my speakers |
| 07:05.43 | zhangweiwu | sed 's/\r\n/\r/g' doesn't sem to work |
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| 07:05.49 | jintxo | jair, the @ record is a special record that resolves "this domain" o I resolve the name of the domain "alberguinn.com" to that IP address |
| 07:05.53 | cast | zhangweiwu: tr -d help? |
| 07:06.28 | zhangweiwu | cast: tr -d would remove single '\n' as well, I want to replace \n\r to \r but leave \n[^\r] untouched |
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| 07:06.43 | jintxo | jair, so that if somebody goes to "http://alberguinn.com" it will go to the same place as if somebody types "http://www.alberguinn.com" (I hope I explained that right :-) |
| 07:06.50 | jair | jintxo: so that ip is the dns server for your connection on that network. |
| 07:07.10 | cast | zhangweiwu: my bad :) |
| 07:07.17 | jair | jintxo: I think so |
| 07:07.21 | WormFood | cool cahoot, at a glance that web page looks like it may help |
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| 07:07.50 | jintxo | jair, that IP address is whatever you want to resolve for when someone tries to reesolve "alberguinn.com", whch isn't really a hostname, but a domain name |
| 07:08.58 | jair | jintxo: ok for example => in my case the server I am running bind9 on is "chidns1.chi.tecnet" = 10.66.23.111 |
| 07:09.06 | jintxo | jair, line 13, where it says "IN NS blablabla" is where you HAVE to have the IP or name of a DNS server for that main (because it's an NS record) |
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| 07:09.27 | jair | jintxo: that is the ip (static) and the hostname with the domain name I wan to do resolution |
| 07:09.43 | zhangweiwu | Or, is there a reliable way to convert '\r\n' to '\r'? tr -d '\n' would ruin it by removing [^\r]\n as well |
| 07:09.49 | jair | jintxo: ohhh ok |
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| 07:12.02 | jair | jintxo: how does this looks to you so far => http://paste.debian.net/33337/ |
| 07:12.07 | jintxo | jair, also look at line 6 where you tell bind who "the boss" is (the Start of Authority, or SOA). must also be a DNS server, in my case, the same one, margaret |
| 07:12.31 | jair | jintxo: or should I change line 14 for ns1.chi.tecnet? |
| 07:13.01 | jair | margaret is the hostname right? |
| 07:13.11 | jintxo | gimme a sec |
| 07:13.14 | jair | ok |
| 07:15.44 | jintxo | jair, 3 things: 1) in line 7, you need to replace chi.tecnet. with chidns1.chi.tecnet. 2) you need to andd an chidns1 IN A record after line 14 to define the hostname of your server and 3) you are missing ";", bery very careful with those !!! :-) |
| 07:17.02 | Pailaps | guys, is there any oneclick security solution, that would point out the user errors on configuring? |
| 07:17.27 | Pailaps | basicly if i made a mistake securitywise, itd tell me to fix it |
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| 07:17.49 | jintxo | jair, yes, in my example, margaret is the one and only server. the boss (small business) |
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| 07:20.35 | jintxo | jair, got disconnected? |
| 07:20.44 | jair_ | jintxo: yes :( |
| 07:20.52 | jair_ | I ill fix my nick one sec |
| 07:20.58 | jintxo | did you get my 3 suggestions ? |
| 07:21.06 | jair_ | yes yes |
| 07:21.12 | jintxo | ok |
| 07:21.31 | jetscreamer | !harden |
| 07:21.31 | dpkg | [harden] D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
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| 07:23.10 | jair | jintxo: ok I am doing the changes hold on a moment please |
| 07:23.15 | jair | jintxo: :) |
| 07:24.13 | jintxo | jair, yup, once you've got that, you shuld be able to resolve the 1 ip address of chidns1.chi.tecnet using that DNS server, and after you've got that, it's just a matter of adding the rest of the A, CNAME and MX records and you're set :-) |
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| 07:26.28 | mf_417 | how can I change default "--script-security" of openvpn? |
| 07:26.39 | mf_417 | ping |
| 07:26.41 | mf_417 | how can I change default "--script-security" of openvpn? |
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| 07:28.13 | suma | Anyone know how to modify the existing .deb package, if it has some bugs? |
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| 07:29.17 | jair | jintxo: on this sugestion => 2) you need to andd an chidns1 IN A record after line 14 to define the hostname of your server |
| 07:29.45 | jair | should I call that server ns1? or it is ok adding the name chidns1 which is the hostname of the bind9 server |
| 07:30.16 | jair | also in what line I am missing the ";"? |
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| 07:30.41 | jintxo | jair, you need to use the "real" hosntame and "real" ip address of chidns1. because that way it ties in to your previous lines where you define SOA |
| 07:30.43 | jair | jintxo: should I call that server ns1? or it is ok adding the name chidns1 which is the hostname of the bind9 server and also in what line I am missing the ";"? |
| 07:30.50 | jintxo | chidns1 |
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| 07:31.52 | jintxo | jair, the ; was missing on line 14 |
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| 07:32.55 | jair | jintxo: got it I look at your configuration and now I know what you you were talking about |
| 07:33.07 | jintxo | first look, then ask :-) |
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| 07:33.42 | jair | jintxo: ok I am almost done with the fixes. yes I am sorry I will look again before asking thank you for the patience |
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| 07:33.50 | Pailaps | how do i find out if the cpu is 64 bit enabled? |
| 07:33.55 | empiric1 | guys any one know a good , dms , blogs , new mgt software in opensource |
| 07:34.06 | empiric1 | just like share point in windows |
| 07:34.30 | jintxo | jair, no, no worries, it's just better that way because it allows you to make better questions. and there are 850 people in here so it's best to keep it brief |
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| 07:35.14 | Pailaps | empiric1, try Alfresco or Joomla |
| 07:36.05 | jintxo | empiric1, add knowledgetree to what Pailaps said. kind of depends exactly what you're looking for but it's worth a peek |
| 07:36.21 | empiric1 | i have debain i am unable to run alfresco i wont find its alfresco-community version |
| 07:36.53 | Pailaps | dam |
| 07:36.57 | Pailaps | i have the payed version |
| 07:37.27 | Pailaps | Alfresco is more suited for an enterprise |
| 07:37.28 | jair | jintxo: what do you think => http://paste.debian.net/33339/ |
| 07:37.59 | jintxo | jair, I think you should restart bind and see if you can resolve that 1 hostname to ip :-) |
| 07:38.20 | jair | jintxo: ok let me do a tail -f to see what happen |
| 07:38.32 | jair | jintxo: and also restart bind9 :) |
| 07:38.56 | jintxo | yup |
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| 07:40.55 | Helion | can someone help me install skype on lenny? |
| 07:41.36 | jair | jintxo: this is what I got :( I am not sure if I forgot something => http://paste.debian.net/33340/ |
| 07:42.49 | Guerin | Helion: ask skyp inc. for support |
| 07:43.02 | Guerin | or perhaps ask in #skype |
| 07:43.03 | Helion | ;( |
| 07:43.24 | jintxo | jair, does your named.conf have "include "/etc/bind/named.conf.local";" as it's last line? |
| 07:43.26 | jair | jintxo: I am missing the configuration here => http://paste.debian.net/33341/ |
| 07:43.40 | jair | I will have to check that too |
| 07:43.54 | jair | yes the named.conf have "include "/etc/bind/named.conf.local";" as it's last line |
| 07:44.08 | jintxo | jair, we said earlier that you would define the files in named.conf.local, right? |
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| 07:44.35 | jair | jintxo: right :( sorry I got confuse, I have the file ready I will make it available now |
| 07:44.39 | jintxo | you even pasted me the file :-) |
| 07:44.47 | jair | hahaha |
| 07:44.49 | jair | I know |
| 07:44.53 | jair | one sec |
| 07:44.54 | jintxo | jair, that's OK |
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| 07:45.52 | jintxo | jair, as you see, bind is not very forgiving. it is best to test each step as you go than to take 3 steps and tehn not know which one you missed |
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| 07:48.31 | jair | jintxo: :) right but I am understanind it more and more :) thanks to your help my friend |
| 07:48.40 | jair | jintxo: here is the new result => http://paste.debian.net/33343/ |
| 07:48.48 | jair | jintxo: what do you think? |
| 07:48.59 | jintxo | I will demand virtual pints of ale from you |
| 07:49.32 | jair | jintxo: what does that mean? |
| 07:49.34 | jintxo | jair, well, if it loaded the zone, it's probably gonna work |
| 07:49.57 | jair | jintxo: how can I test it, I know I can use dig, right? |
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| 07:50.00 | jintxo | jair, as just joking about the ale, forget it :-) |
| 07:50.37 | jair | jintxo: ohhh ok I did not understand the joke though hahaha |
| 07:50.43 | empiric1 | Pailpas any idea to install alfresco on debain-etch |
| 07:51.08 | jintxo | jair, many ways to test, dig: host, nslookup or just edit /etc/resolv.conf to point to your new DNS and see if it resolves chidns1.chi.tecnet correctly |
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| 07:52.34 | jair | jintxo: here is my current resolv.conf file => http://paste.debian.net/33344/ |
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| 07:54.53 | jair | jintxo: current output of "dig" => http://paste.debian.net/33345/ |
| 07:54.53 | jintxo | jair, you an't just run "dig" you need to run "dig chi.tecnet" |
| 07:55.00 | jair | ohhh ok |
| 07:55.31 | jair | jintxo: but it is my resolv.conf file ok or should I change the "127.0.0.1" to "10.66.23.111" |
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| 07:55.54 | jair | they are the same system just one is the loopback and the other one is the ip address. |
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| 07:56.13 | jintxo | 127.0.0.1 should be fine |
| 07:56.20 | jair | ok |
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| 07:56.56 | jintxo | jair, I would be more worried about the other entry which specifies a DNS server that you don't really want to test right now |
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| 07:57.51 | jair | jintxo: http://paste.debian.net/33346/ check this output. |
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| 07:58.51 | jair | jintxo: the other dns server is the one in place (production) I will be replacing the ip of that server is "10.66.1.21" and it is resolving now the local machines on the network. |
| 07:59.17 | jintxo | jair looks good, what about dig chidns1.chi.tecnet. if that works, then you're done |
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| 07:59.46 | suma | Anyone know how to modify the existing .deb package, if it has some bugs? |
| 07:59.50 | jair | jintxo: so I guess I can not stop that server until I transfer all the information hosts ips to the new one right? |
| 08:00.04 | jintxo | jair, no, don't stop it |
| 08:00.14 | jintxo | you're right bout that last guess |
| 08:00.23 | dfrank | hello All, tell please, how do i format my HDD and wipe all data? |
| 08:00.27 | jair | jintxo: ok, but can I change the 127.0.0.1 to 10.66.23.111 and it will have the same result? |
| 08:00.42 | jintxo | yes, as you said, they are the same host |
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| 08:01.02 | jair | jintxo: understand :) about transferring the records first before sunset the other server. |
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| 08:01.16 | jair | jintxo: ok |
| 08:01.23 | jintxo | jair, what about dig chidns1.chi.tecnet ? |
| 08:02.17 | jair | jintxo: here http://paste.debian.net/33348/ |
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| 08:02.58 | zhangweiwu | Hello. Is there a way to concatenate two files line by line? e.g. line 1 of file A followed by line 1 of file B; and so on. |
| 08:03.30 | jintxo | jair, you need no more help from me for now. it is resolving the 1 host that is defined, so the rest is just adding information to the zone and restarting bind. careful with the ";" when you do :-) |
| 08:04.00 | jair | jintxo: :) you are the master :P |
| 08:04.06 | jair | jintxo: one last thing I think |
| 08:04.08 | jintxo | jair, what about that ale? hehehehe |
| 08:04.14 | jintxo | j/k |
| 08:04.27 | jintxo | jair, shoot |
| 08:04.45 | jetscreamer | nano... |
| 08:04.47 | jair | jintxo: thank you. what does this mean => Apr 12 21:57:04 chidns1 named[2505]: network unreachable resolving './NS/IN': 2001:500:2f::f#53 |
| 08:04.50 | jair | Apr 12 21:57:09 chidns1 named[2505]: network unreachable resolving './NS/IN': 2001:503:c27::2:30#53 |
| 08:04.52 | jair | Apr 12 21:57:09 chidns1 named[2505]: network unreachable resolving './NS/IN': 2001:503:ba3e::2:30#53 |
| 08:04.55 | jair | Apr 12 21:57:09 chidns1 named[2505]: network unreachable resolving './NS/IN': 2001:7fd::1#53 |
| 08:04.57 | alfatau | hello, i'm running the stable debian version. why i receive mail (root) about some scripts from cron daemon? i don't receive warning or errors but only script's name. is there any configuration file for cron daemon other than crontab? thanks for your attention |
| 08:04.58 | jair | sorry |
| 08:05.01 | jintxo | Jaif, whoah |
| 08:05.05 | jetscreamer | zhangweiwu: this sound like a job for super #perl |
| 08:05.31 | jair | jintxo: I mean this => http://paste.debian.net/33349/ |
| 08:05.35 | jintxo | jair, it means you don't have ipv6 set up or your ISP doesn't support ipv6. not worrying for now |
| 08:05.56 | jair | jintxo: how can I get rid of those messages? |
| 08:06.39 | jair | jintxo: also do I need to worry about my rndc.key? when I transfer the information from the other server to this one? |
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| 08:06.55 | jintxo | jair, hm. not sure about that one, sorry. I'm sure bind and/or linux have an option for disabling ipv6 but I'm not very vested on the subject |
| 08:07.18 | WormFood | zhangweiwu, where in China are you? I may have a solution to your question. Are both files the same number of lines? |
| 08:07.51 | jintxo | jair, your rndc question surpasses my limited bind knowledge :-p |
| 08:08.17 | zhangweiwu | WormFood: Beijing. They are of same number of lines |
| 08:08.20 | kingsley | zhangweiwu: Yes, the "paste" command can do that. |
| 08:09.02 | zhangweiwu | jetscreamer: I heard guru said "don't use shell scriipt if you can use a command etc etc |
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| 08:09.23 | jair | jintxo: and when I was reading the ARM I noticed something about the serial MUST increase each time I update the bind9 configuration I think it refers to the second line here => |
| 08:09.27 | jair | @ IN SOA chidns1.chi.tecnet. root.chi.tecnet. ( 1 ; Serial |
| 08:09.30 | Xunie | Since ##linux fails hard today, I'd thought of giving a shot here... |
| 08:10.03 | jair | jintxo: => I meant 1 ; Serial |
| 08:10.22 | WormFood | zhangweiwu, you can do some clever use of head and tail and combine them...not sure of one app that do will do it tho. I invite you to come join us in #mandarin |
| 08:10.30 | valdyn | jair: it should, its not needed for that many things though |
| 08:10.31 | jair | jintxo: no worries |
| 08:10.53 | Xunie | I am trying to create a deb package with checkinstall -D, I am trying to set multiple requires, But I get an error after "python"... The full require entry is "python iptables"... So I don't get it... |
| 08:10.58 | jair | valdyn: are you talking about the serial increase to me ? |
| 08:10.59 | kingsley | WormFood: The "paste" command can do it. |
| 08:11.00 | Xunie | Do I need to escape the space? |
| 08:11.02 | jintxo | jair, yes, the Serial would be used by secondary DNS servers to find out if they need to "refresh" their information or not. if you don't have sconedary dns servers, don't worry about it, but do get used to modifying the serial because it is a good custom to have |
| 08:11.07 | valdyn | jair: yes |
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| 08:11.21 | cast | nasty, checkinstall |
| 08:11.40 | Xunie | cast, What is preferable in your opinion? |
| 08:11.40 | jair | valdyn: if at the moment I have just one server, do I change the serial myself? |
| 08:11.58 | valdyn | jair: whoever changes a zone file changes the serial too |
| 08:12.00 | jair | jintxo: I see so is the serial on the "db.chi.tecnet |
| 08:12.05 | jintxo | yes |
| 08:12.32 | jair | I see so far I have 1 there and I haven't change it |
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| 08:12.54 | xingu | zhangweiwu: paste -d '\n' file1 file2 |
| 08:12.56 | jintxo | the 1 that you pasted should be incremented upen each edit of the file for any secondary dns servers to realize that they have stale information and force a zone transfer |
| 08:13.00 | jair | valdyn: jintxo will I run into problems next time if I add another dns server for example an slave? |
| 08:13.03 | zhangweiwu | xingu: thanks, that works great! |
| 08:13.10 | cast | Xunie: if it's a one off, stow and installing in /usr/local/stow, that way it's difficult to fuck up your system package management |
| 08:13.20 | valdyn | jair: automatic zone transfers dont happen if theres no new serial |
| 08:13.31 | jair | jintxo: go it |
| 08:13.51 | jair | valdyn: so to be sure next time I do a change I should increment that serial to 2 |
| 08:13.51 | cast | Xunie: if you're making a .deb to distribute to mulitple machines, i'd look at the new maintainers guide and go their path if possible [dh_make, dpkg-buildpackage] |
| 08:13.56 | jair | right now is "1" |
| 08:14.02 | valdyn | jair: yes |
| 08:14.08 | WormFood | zhangweiwu, paste file1.txt file2.txt -d "\n" |
| 08:14.09 | jair | valdyn: got it |
| 08:14.31 | valdyn | jair: it seems popular to use YYYYDDMMXY for the serial |
| 08:14.41 | jair | jintxo: I think I am set for now. Man you really helped me on this one :) |
| 08:14.42 | valdyn | jair: or somilar codings of the current day and time |
| 08:14.48 | WormFood | I was unaware of the paste command before now, thanks for the heads up kingsley (I was most of the way done with a simple script using head and tail to do it for me) |
| 08:14.59 | valdyn | jair: but thats up to you |
| 08:15.13 | jair | valdyn: that is to make it easier as administrator to know when I did the change correct? |
| 08:15.30 | valdyn | jair: or anyone querying the zone |
| 08:15.40 | kingsley | WormFood: You're welcome. |
| 08:15.42 | Xunie | cast, Well, I'm all about keeping things tidy, Something always tells my gut to package things nicely so I can re-use it sometime when I really need it ya know? |
| 08:15.50 | jair | valdyn: sounds like a good idea, will the bind9 recognize that automagically or I have to edit a conf file? |
| 08:16.05 | valdyn | jair: theres nothing to recognise there, its just a serial |
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| 08:16.24 | Xunie | I see people seriously don't care about indentation in code, That project's results where slow, painful and needed alot of debugging! |
| 08:16.49 | Xunie | So do whatever you do good once or don't do it at all! |
| 08:17.09 | jair | valdyn: got it. So I can use => 20091304 and xy is time or just a number? |
| 08:17.16 | cast | Xunie: stow is pretty tidy imho, keeping all progs files in /usr/local/stow/progs/, but sure, each to their own |
| 08:17.24 | jair | here is 3:17am |
| 08:17.27 | valdyn | jair: in case you do several changes a day |
| 08:17.31 | jair | CDT chicago |
| 08:17.41 | jair | valdyn: got it |
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| 08:18.00 | WormFood | zhangweiwu, this will do it too, if you want to do it with shell script ;) --> for i in `seq 1 $(wc -l <file1.txt)`; do head -n $i file1.txt| tail -n1 >>newfile.txt; head -n $i file2.txt | tail -n1 >>newfile.txt; done |
| 08:18.01 | jair | so if I do that everything will work as I just use the number |
| 08:18.13 | jair | jintxo: THANK you so much |
| 08:18.19 | jintxo | yw |
| 08:18.22 | jair | jintxo: you saved me man |
| 08:18.32 | jintxo | jair, you might sae me some day hehehehe |
| 08:18.44 | jair | jintxo: I did not know what else to read to try to understand more about bind9 |
| 08:18.57 | jair | jintxo: see you what do you mean? |
| 08:19.08 | jair | jintxo: are you from Chicago as well? hahahaha |
| 08:19.39 | jair | jintxo: I am originally from south america though, first language is spanish :) |
| 08:19.42 | jintxo | jair, no, Spain, but that's off topic. have fun with your beast |
| 08:19.48 | xingu | WormFood: or if you want to be really crufty: (cat -n /etc/hosts; cat -n /etc/services) | sort -n | cut -f2- |
| 08:20.07 | xingu | or whatever your two files are |
| 08:20.13 | jair | jintxo: perfect thank you so much I am sure I will see you again here then :) |
| 08:20.13 | jetscreamer | you don't have to make a script file to do perl eh? you can just go to town? |
| 08:21.05 | jair | valdyn: thank you very much for your sugestions and help |
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| 08:21.14 | jair | jintxo: thank you my friend and I will see you sometime soon |
| 08:21.44 | jair | I will go to rest a little bit, I have to get ready to go to work in four hours |
| 08:21.46 | jair | :P |
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| 08:23.25 | jair | valdyn: by the way would you know how to get rid of the error messages in bind9 because of the ipv6? |
| 08:23.26 | Mike1 | hey |
| 08:23.34 | Mike1 | i did an aptitude upgrade yesterday |
| 08:23.42 | Mike1 | and it also upgraded ALSA |
| 08:24.04 | WormFood | xingu, yeah, that is clever, but the lines may not alternate....it could be file 1, line 1- file 2, line 1 - file 2, line 2 - file 1, line 2 |
| 08:24.09 | jair | valdyn: http://paste.debian.net/33349/ here are the messages on my syslog |
| 08:24.14 | Mike1 | somehow my asoundconf is missing now and only PulseAudio works, but very bad |
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| 08:26.51 | Mike1 | feels ignored |
| 08:26.56 | Mike1 | what happened to ALSA! |
| 08:26.58 | Mike1 | ? |
| 08:27.14 | cahoot | asoundconf is obsoleted |
| 08:27.27 | Mike1 | cahoot: why that? |
| 08:27.37 | cahoot | buggy and not maintained IIRC |
| 08:27.38 | cast | if it makes you feel any better, for the first 6 months i used gnu/linux, i had no sound. i sat a radio on my desk |
| 08:27.42 | Mike1 | cahoot: what can i use instead? |
| 08:28.05 | cahoot | Mike1: what did you use asoundconf for? |
| 08:28.08 | WormFood | a radio? that is the only musical instrument I know how to play ;) |
| 08:28.47 | Mike1 | cahoot: nothing actually, but because somehow only PulseAudio works now, i wanted to try to disable it with asoundconf unset-pulseaudio |
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| 08:29.55 | cahoot | Mike1: move any ~/.asoundrc* out of harms way |
| 08:30.33 | Mike1 | cahoot: no such file |
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| 08:34.38 | Mike1 | cahoot: oh, *lol* problem solved |
| 08:35.08 | Mike1 | was my on stupidness, changed some things in `alsamixer` and somehow they did not affect PulseAudio but alsa-only only |
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| 08:37.26 | jair | hello guys, I just finish configuring my bind9 server and everything looks like is working fine except a number of errors on my syslog => http://paste.debian.net/33349/ |
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| 08:38.07 | jair | I am using lenny stable, is this error related to bind9 or there is something I need to do with the network interfaces configuration of debian lenny? |
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| 08:38.55 | Agiofws | hello |
| 08:38.57 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:39.29 | cast | i use a few lines of LaTeX, but sure, you could use oo.o |
| 08:39.54 | jair | Agiofws: if you have openoffice installed on your system you can insert the picture on a writer document and then export it as pdf :) |
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| 08:40.22 | jair | jelly-home: hello hello :) |
| 08:40.37 | funyun | noob here. can someone help me write a script? i need it to pack (rar) files larger than 400mb's only. i need it to slip those equally in half. is this possible? |
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| 08:40.51 | jair | jelly-home: I did finish my dns server setup thanks to reading and my friends jintxo and valdyn :) |
| 08:40.53 | funyun | split* |
| 08:42.03 | jair | funyun: I heard you, I need to get into bash myself if I knew I will for sure help you man :( |
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| 08:42.12 | Agiofws | ok thanks jair |
| 08:42.20 | jair | Agiofws: you are welcome |
| 08:42.25 | peppe | Agiofws: use imagemagick. convert can do it |
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| 08:42.29 | peppe | convert file.jpg file.pdf |
| 08:42.49 | peppe | see the manual for the options (page size, resolution, ...) |
| 08:42.52 | funyun | jair: thanks. so my request is possible right? |
| 08:42.55 | mindeq | hi can anyone tell me where to download openssh+chroot ? because http://chrootssh.sourceforge.net/download/ is empty |
| 08:42.58 | xingu | jair: /etc/default/bind9: OPTIONS=".... -4 ..." |
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| 08:43.51 | xingu | jair: but seriously, why doesn't your network route ipv6? it's scarcely new. |
| 08:44.27 | jair | peppe: I am sure it is, you can even try looking for an answer running this command => man unrar-free |
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| 08:44.52 | peppe | jair: what? |
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| 08:45.11 | jair | xingu: hmmm I am not sure... is this something I need to check on debian or bind9 or both? |
| 08:45.35 | xingu | jair: neither, it's network layer. |
| 08:45.38 | jair | peppe: there is a unrar-free package in linux that can manipulate the .rar files |
| 08:46.11 | jair | xingu: I am not sure if we are supporting ipv6 :( |
| 08:46.13 | peppe | jair: I think you are referring to funyun |
| 08:46.15 | jair | xingu: I don't think so |
| 08:46.18 | peppe | :) |
| 08:46.24 | jair | ohhh sorry |
| 08:46.35 | jair | peppe: my fault |
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| 08:46.54 | jair | funyun: all the messages I sent to peppe are for you about rar files |
| 08:47.05 | peppe | np |
| 08:47.56 | jair | xingu: I am checking the /etc/default/bind9: OPTIONS=".... -4 ..." |
| 08:48.09 | xingu | jair: I am reasonable sure that your network doesn't have anything more than link-local ipv6; and that's something the network owner really should address, there's no excuse these days. |
| 08:48.19 | xingu | s/reasonable/reasonably/ |
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| 08:49.06 | my007ms | i have reconfig exim4 so i can send mail over the internet |
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| 08:49.07 | jair | xingu: hmm I will address that |
| 08:49.22 | jair | xingu: our backbone is a cisco 6509-E |
| 08:49.30 | my007ms | but all mail send with my username. i need to change this to make it look like form my real name |
| 08:49.35 | my007ms | how i can do this ? |
| 08:49.57 | xingu | jair: right, and the same sup engines that can't run an ipv6 ios image also can't hold a full routing table any more, so again there's no real excuse. |
| 08:50.02 | jair | xingu: should I do the corrections there or this is even before the switch, like the pix firewall or even higher level? |
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| 08:50.42 | jair | xingu: understand. so if I solve that the bind9 will not be giving me this errors |
| 08:51.14 | xingu | jair: network wide; the most immediate problem is your edge; it's got no ipv6 address; get some connectivity - either tunnelled, or better, from your upstream. |
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| 08:51.24 | jair | xingu: but the work around for now is that option you gave me on the default file for bind9? |
| 08:51.42 | Iradieh | Is there a way to run "tail -f log.log | ruby app.rb" as a daemon or as a background application so I dont need to have it running in a screen& |
| 08:51.45 | xingu | jair: yes, the work around is to clap your hands over your eyes and say "I can't seeeeee yooooouuuu" |
| 08:51.59 | jair | xingu: hahahhaha |
| 08:52.18 | creative2bad | i know this channel isnt for proftpd .. but it seems like you guys know a lot about linux... is it possible to trigger proftpd to run a certain script file after a transfer is complete on debian? |
| 08:52.19 | jair | xingu: I am so sorry but Thank you thank you thank you... for letting me know that... |
| 08:52.48 | xingu | jair: ie pretend that the various federal mandates haven't happened stateside and that key infrastructure isn't switching to dualstack and that you aren't creating a technological backwater |
| 08:52.54 | jair | xingu: I will be working tomorrow morning with our network infrastructure guy |
| 08:53.37 | xingu | jair: nb, in your pastebin - those root nameservers with ...:... addresses are their ipv6 address. |
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| 08:53.43 | jair | xingu: I am so sorry we will be fixing that I am sure |
| 08:53.46 | my007ms | is there something i have to do after change /etc/aliases ? |
| 08:53.49 | xingu | grins |
| 08:54.02 | jair | xingu: nb? |
| 08:54.23 | xingu | jair: latin, translates as "note well" |
| 08:54.26 | jintxo | my007ms, run newaliases |
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| 08:54.52 | xingu | jair: "nota bene" |
| 08:55.07 | jair | italian? |
| 08:55.07 | jair | wow |
| 08:55.09 | jair | ok |
| 08:55.46 | my007ms | jintxo i do and then restart exim4 but i still see mail come form my username :( |
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| 08:57.06 | funyun | jair: i see. i have rar. the command to pack something is "rar a -m0 -v<filesize>" but i don't know how to split in half or to get it to only pack files larger than 400mb's.. |
| 08:57.20 | jintxo | my007ms, because /etc/aliases has nothing to do with what you want :-) it is for receiving emails at a mailbox different than the one it was sent to (lie in my case sending to postmaster makes it be received in jintxo account). sorry I know nothing about exim :-( |
| 08:57.30 | jintxo | s/lie/like |
| 08:58.00 | my007ms | :D ahh thanks for trying to help i was think it's for send |
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| 09:02.56 | jair | xingu: I am getting this message now :( Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused |
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| 09:04.09 | jair | funyun: right me either, but I am sure that there is a bash script for it. maybe something like find, plus another variable and then the size of the files you want to compress |
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| 09:06.09 | g0rd0n | i can't find the documentation that explains how to upgrade from etch to lenny... can you give me the url please? :$ |
| 09:07.27 | funyun | jair: do you know how to use find? i was told this before as well but i don't understand it. |
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| 09:09.23 | g0rd0n | uh |
| 09:09.25 | g0rd0n | i found it :) |
| 09:09.32 | g0rd0n | so nvm bye+ ;) |
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| 09:11.54 | jair | funyun: you can always read the manual pages funyun I do very basic search with find |
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| 09:12.56 | funyun | yes, i've tried that. unfortunately it's like trying to read spanish for me.. but thanks anyway |
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| 09:24.03 | NativeAngels | im fairly new to debian, can anyone tell me when i log in to debain why there are no tool bars just the folders ? |
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| 09:25.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | NativeAngels, how did you install? what cd did you use? |
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| 09:26.31 | NativeAngels | im using the lenny |
| 09:26.37 | NativeAngels | of a magazine |
| 09:26.52 | NativeAngels | they was there first, but after a reboot they disapeared |
| 09:27.06 | NativeAngels | so all im left with is the folders |
| 09:27.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | did you change anything before rebooting? |
| 09:27.53 | NativeAngels | no |
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| 09:28.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | NativeAngels, i suggest moving .gnome and .gnome2 aside , then log out+in. see if they come back. |
| 09:28.32 | jintxo | NativeAngels, that's odd. try hitting Alt+F2 to get a "run" box and running gnome-panel, maybe it didn't start up for some reason |
| 09:28.37 | Linuxerianer | NativeAngels, open the menu "edit", select the tab "behavior" and enable "always open as browser windows" |
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| 09:28.56 | jair | funyun: :( |
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| 09:29.19 | NativeAngels | theres no menus thats just it |
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| 09:30.10 | funyun | jair: sorry, my internet crashed.. |
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| 09:56.05 | demantik | hi, can someone tell me how to disable suspend when the lid is closed on my eeepc? also, have the power button perform a reset. |
| 09:56.57 | cahoot | demantik: got a DE? |
| 09:57.01 | cahoot | (like gnome)? |
| 09:57.39 | liable | demantik: the scripts for that are in /etc/acpi |
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| 09:58.13 | mopoyo | hey!!!! |
| 09:58.17 | mopoyo | how big is debian?! |
| 09:58.22 | mopoyo | for i386 |
| 09:58.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | mopoyo, about 403cm |
| 09:58.51 | mopoyo | i mean in MB |
| 09:58.54 | mopoyo | GB |
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| 09:59.07 | mopoyo | I'm using jigdo to download it |
| 09:59.15 | wbd | is there a roundcube package for etch, |
| 09:59.19 | mopoyo | It's downloading a lot... and I have a cap |
| 09:59.29 | mopoyo | So please tell me how big it is quickly |
| 09:59.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | mopoyo, are you asking about the cd or the aentire archive? |
| 09:59.43 | cahoot | mopoyo: there is no simple answer |
| 09:59.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | if your doing the archive with jidgo your nuts |
| 10:00.09 | mopoyo | I DONT KNOW |
| 10:00.30 | mopoyo | PLZ |
| 10:00.31 | mopoyo | tell me |
| 10:00.34 | mopoyo | before I DOWNLOAD IT ALL |
| 10:00.38 | mopoyo | faaaaark |
| 10:00.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | mopoyo, your an idiot |
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| 10:00.59 | liable | it depends on which jigdo template you downloaded. |
| 10:00.59 | mopoyo | god |
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| 10:01.13 | mopoyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.14 | wbd | yes, what can I do for you |
| 10:01.15 | mopoyo | that one |
| 10:01.41 | demantik | cahoot: no de. |
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| 10:01.50 | demantik | liable: yeah, just looked a little confusing. |
| 10:01.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm guessing around 4.2GB, but if you look at /cdimage for that iso, it'll be that big |
| 10:02.20 | mopoyo | fark |
| 10:02.22 | mopoyo | im an idiot |
| 10:02.23 | mopoyo | dgksdpogksdogk |
| 10:02.23 | mopoyo | sdgkosdkpgsd |
| 10:02.29 | demantik | my install is 370mb |
| 10:02.57 | mopoyo | so which jigdo file am i meant to get? |
| 10:02.58 | liable | demantik: look in the events dir, and change the action for the lid |
| 10:03.41 | mopoyo | http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ |
| 10:03.50 | mopoyo | I went to official images |
| 10:03.53 | cahoot | mopoyo: if you have a working internet connection the netinstall image is the one to choose |
| 10:03.55 | mopoyo | and got the dvd |
| 10:05.19 | mopoyo | was that the wrong one?1 |
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| 10:05.39 | demantik | just use the net/ftp install |
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| 10:07.40 | Daniel10_ | anybody know anything about an rtl8187b wireless card for a gateway laptop? I installed debian and have ethernet but no wifi card. I can locate the card in lshw as an unclaimed usb device (it's integrated though) |
| 10:10.01 | NativeAngels | ok i loged on to debian 5 desktop and there still no aps panel whats wrong ? |
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| 10:12.05 | mopoyo | debian is too big... |
| 10:12.14 | mopoyo | I'm not downloading 4.2 gb |
| 10:12.28 | Gryflhase | NativeAngels: Install a apps panel :) |
| 10:12.32 | Daniel10_ | if you have windows then download unet bootin |
| 10:12.40 | Daniel10_ | it'll set up a net install |
| 10:13.23 | NativeAngels | but was there before and when i rebooted and loged in, it has gone, all i have now when i login is the file folder not toolbars etc |
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| 10:13.52 | klaz168 | NativeAngels, under gnome? no panels at all? |
| 10:13.56 | NativeAngels | yes |
| 10:14.02 | Knight_Lord | Is i compile a program against glibc 2.3.6 can i take that program and run it in a system with glibc 2.3.2 |
| 10:14.07 | jeffrey__ | mopoyo: you don't need all the packages |
| 10:14.10 | Daniel10_ | anybody good at wireless drivers? they're asleep in that channel |
| 10:14.19 | NativeAngels | all thats there is the drive folders |
| 10:14.19 | Knight_Lord | (Meaning taking a program compiled in etch and trying to run it in sarge) |
| 10:14.31 | Knight_Lord | If I compile* |
| 10:14.50 | mopoyo | jeffrey__ where can I download the installation iso without all the packages |
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| 10:14.59 | NativeAngels | any ideas klaz168 |
| 10:15.23 | jeffrey__ | mopoyo: from debian.org, you can just download the instISO, or nteinst ISO. |
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| 10:16.37 | klaz168 | NativeAngels, sec |
| 10:16.43 | NativeAngels | ok |
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| 10:17.49 | mopoyo | jeffrey__ but I want the packages I need to be saved on the disc, so next time I don't have to redownload the packages |
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| 10:18.46 | jeffrey__ | mopoyo: download all the packages only if you do not have internet link. |
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| 10:19.13 | mopoyo | i do have an internet link... but i have a download cap |
| 10:19.15 | mopoyo | a limit |
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| 10:19.29 | jeffrey__ | mopoyo: The common way to install debian is that you download the minimal install ISO, install the minimal system, and then install the apps you need |
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| 10:21.26 | mopoyo | minimal being the netinst? |
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| 10:21.54 | et | well, netinst is not "minimal", but it's the common way ;) |
| 10:22.01 | et | there are business card isos etc too |
| 10:22.12 | Knight_Lord | Is it possible to have a 32bit userland with a 64bit kernel? |
| 10:22.26 | NativeAngels | anyone else no why the apps panel would dissapear |
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| 10:22.34 | et | Knight_Lord: yes. |
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| 10:23.28 | et | Knight_Lord: you still have per-process memory limitations there though |
| 10:23.29 | Knight_Lord | et: If I compile a binary in such a system will it run on a normal 32bit system? |
| 10:24.08 | Knight_Lord | et: i only have a 64bit machine and i want to make precompiled binaries for distributions that will run on both 64bit and 32bit machines. |
| 10:24.10 | et | well, that is independant of your system ... you can compile on 32 bit for amd64 and vice-versa |
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| 10:24.37 | Knight_Lord | et: ok thanks. Any pointers on what i should google for? |
| 10:24.58 | jeffrey__ | et: You can compile, but can you run on the inconsist platform? |
| 10:25.24 | Knight_Lord | et: so for example can i debootstrap sarge on a amd64 machine? |
| 10:25.44 | jeffrey__ | Knight_lord: set up some vms |
| 10:26.23 | Knight_Lord | jeffrey__: is there any vm system that is easy to use from the command line? |
| 10:27.30 | et | well, you don't exactly have to "use" it |
| 10:27.44 | jeffrey__ | Knight_Lord: don't think you can use vm from command line |
| 10:27.47 | et | you set it up, let it run and ssh to it to do your work |
| 10:27.59 | Knight_Lord | et: i mean an easy vm to setup from the command line |
| 10:28.20 | Knight_Lord | et: i'm only familiar with vmware |
| 10:28.28 | jeffrey__ | Knight_lord: sure, you can edit config files. |
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| 10:32.41 | Firenight | hey small question |
| 10:33.00 | Firenight | not used to apt-get but I just installed debian 5 and i am trying to install joe jed and screen |
| 10:33.11 | Firenight | but my apt-get is set for my cd drive |
| 10:33.18 | Firenight | any idea how to switch it over |
| 10:33.31 | Firenight | so it installs to my linux and not my cd drive |
| 10:33.37 | liable | Firenight: comment the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:33.49 | Firenight | ahh k k |
| 10:34.00 | Firenight | thank you |
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| 11:04.10 | wm4 | so I heard KDE4 got into Debian unstable - what are the user reactions? |
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| 11:04.29 | wm4 | chaos, shock, and awe? |
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| 11:05.52 | Zharf | chaos, shock and disgust more likely |
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| 11:06.46 | jelly-home | wm4: users of unstable are accustomed to breakage and failure |
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| 11:07.33 | liable | nevar |
| 11:07.41 | Zharf | jelly-home, what? I'm not! |
| 11:07.44 | Zharf | wlel |
| 11:07.44 | wm4 | and there's no way to use KDE3? |
| 11:07.48 | osfd | Hi. I'd like to watch some videos on some american websites (NBC for example) but my IP is filtered (non-US). If I use a proxy, would that be enough to aleviate the problem ? |
| 11:07.52 | Zharf | my unstable hasn't broken in three years :( |
| 11:08.02 | Zharf | it's really unsatisfying really |
| 11:08.05 | liable | osfd: yup |
| 11:08.21 | osfd | liable: yup...define yup |
| 11:08.27 | Zharf | yes |
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| 11:09.40 | osfd | alright |
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| 11:10.14 | osfd | so now the question would be, do you know reliable and efficient proxys ? |
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| 11:10.16 | Jonnight | hey |
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| 11:10.27 | liable | osfd: heh, no. |
| 11:10.31 | Jonnight | small problem. I am trying to get apt-get to work |
| 11:10.42 | osfd | liable: ???????????????????????????? |
| 11:10.55 | liable | what? |
| 11:11.03 | Jonnight | I edited out the cd in the source.list but for some reason i can not find joe or jed |
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| 11:11.19 | liable | Jonnight: did you do an update? |
| 11:11.33 | Jonnight | yup |
| 11:12.28 | liable | Jonnight: if your new, the debian reference is well worth a read. /msg dpkg reference also /msg dpkg search |
| 11:12.31 | AntiInit | i'm having difficulty booting from a new kernel that I compiled. I downloaded the sid 2.6.29 kernel and extracted the .config file from it, then compiled my own kernel from sources. I then did a mkinitrd and set grub etc and booted. says VFS can not open root device. and shows no available partitions. Since i used a working .config I can only conclude there is a problem with mkinitrd. is there any thing obvious or known that |
| 11:12.40 | liable | Jonnight: paste your sources.list to paste.debian.net |
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| 11:13.44 | liable | AntiInit: hmm, havent really thought about doing it that way, usually just add --initrd to make-kpkg command |
| 11:13.55 | liable | AntiInit: your way should have worked though |
| 11:14.46 | AntiInit | its really bugging me, because I know it must work as the sid .29.1 kernel works. |
| 11:15.12 | Jonnight | http://paste.debian.net/33358/ |
| 11:15.30 | AntiInit | the only thing i can think of is that it does something extra when building the ram disk |
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| 11:16.21 | Jonnight | did that work? |
| 11:16.51 | liable | Jonnight: you dont have an ordinary line for sources |
| 11:16.59 | liable | !sources |
| 11:16.59 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 11:17.36 | liable | Jonnight: add one like the first one ^^ add contrib and non-free if you want those |
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| 11:17.56 | Jonnight | :is confused. |
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| 11:18.33 | Jonnight | i have two already |
| 11:18.52 | liable | add a line .. deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free .. where <cc> is 'us' or whatever your country is |
| 11:20.18 | Jonnight | ok |
| 11:20.25 | Jonnight | its getting packages now |
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| 11:22.24 | Jonnight | hmm |
| 11:22.26 | Jonnight | that worked |
| 11:22.28 | Jonnight | thanks |
| 11:22.31 | Jonnight | now for the hard part |
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| 11:23.05 | Jonnight | i have no idea how to set up my wireless card on this linux. i know I need ndiskwrapper but other then that I am lost |
| 11:23.26 | anoHito | i have a question please |
| 11:23.33 | maligor | Jonnight, what wireless card? |
| 11:23.38 | liable | best to google that one, i dont feel like walking you through that :P |
| 11:23.47 | Jonnight | heh |
| 11:23.49 | Jonnight | i understand |
| 11:23.55 | Jonnight | its a broadcom |
| 11:23.57 | p0g0_ | liable: ! |
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| 11:24.00 | Jonnight | i believe its a 43xx |
| 11:24.10 | maligor | Jonnight, tried b43? |
| 11:24.14 | liable | howdy p0g0_ |
| 11:24.23 | p0g0_ | hey liable: |
| 11:24.29 | Jonnight | not yet. Been trying to figure what to apt-get right now *blush* |
| 11:24.50 | maligor | b43 needs the firmware from the windows drivers |
| 11:24.51 | liable | Jonnight: broadcoms are generally supported now with newer kernels |
| 11:25.05 | maligor | install b43-fwcutter |
| 11:25.13 | Jonnight | ahh |
| 11:25.22 | Jonnight | see last time I set up a broadcom was with slack 10 |
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| 11:25.33 | Jonnight | i almost shot my computer and myself at that time |
| 11:25.39 | abrotman | anoHito: just ask your question |
| 11:25.53 | anoHito | hi abrotman ,long time no see :) |
| 11:25.56 | abrotman | hi |
| 11:26.26 | liable | p0g0_: i am basically having an aversion to any form of work at the moment, i still want to get a copy of wombat though :) |
| 11:26.45 | p0g0_ | liable: OK, I was wondering. |
| 11:26.55 | p0g0_ | not baout the work aversion |
| 11:27.02 | p0g0_ | it's going around. |
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| 11:27.26 | anoHito | abrotman, i am doing for example , grep -i abcdefg | egrep -i '123|321' , the goal is to find the keywords of 123 and 321 which are included in abedefg,no problem,but what do i do to make the the known results as an exception but only list the unknown ? |
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| 11:28.17 | liable | p0g0_: i'll fire up my old thinkpad and do a fresh install on it for him to live on, just got to get around to doing it.. |
| 11:28.34 | Jonnight | ok i got the b43 now how do I convice this to work |
| 11:28.38 | anoHito | abrotman, for examle,i get results like yahoo123, what do i do to make yahoo123 to not being listed as a result according to that command ? |
| 11:28.49 | p0g0_ | liable: just let me know when you are ready to receive. |
| 11:28.57 | liable | p0g0_: will do. |
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| 11:29.33 | anoHito | or anyone know a resolution care to share would be appreciated |
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| 11:30.30 | abrotman | anoHito: grep -v ? |
| 11:30.49 | anoHito | abrotman, i am actually doing tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -w - dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' |
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| 11:31.00 | liable | p0g0_: heard from kel lately? dunno why, just wondering how was doing in pommyland. i may need to annoy him again soon as a wpasupp maintainer. |
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| 11:31.21 | rgr | having just done a resize2fs and then an lvreduce my lvm now has free space inside it. How do I get that space out of the lvm so I can create a new partition? I cant find an option to reduce the total lvm size leaving the free space "free". |
| 11:31.36 | abrotman | anoHito: okay .. so what are you trying to not see / |
| 11:31.36 | abrotman | ? |
| 11:31.41 | AntiInit | could anyone recommend a pci card for wireless master mode for linux base station? |
| 11:32.05 | anoHito | abrotman, so after i run it, it prints out many results and up2date ,for example, i have found Yahoo ! Slurp , what do i do to make 'Yahoo! Slurp' not being listed as a result ? |
| 11:32.19 | abrotman | grep -v Yahoo |
| 11:32.36 | Jonnight | hmm what b43 do I need? fw11 or fw 13 |
| 11:32.56 | liable | AntiInit: pretty much anything in the mainline kernel now thats mac80211. the wireless devs havent formally released any master mode patches yet though. afaik |
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| 11:34.03 | p0g0_ | liable: no, i have not. I asked around the other day, as he is not in the usual places. He's sub rosa afaict. |
| 11:34.04 | AntiInit | im trying to get my b43 linksys card working but i'm having a hard time compiling compat-wireless-2.6. make seems to enter a recursive loop, opening files till limit is reached. |
| 11:34.10 | anoHito | abrotman, i just added that grep -v Yahoo in the end of the original command,seems it works perfectly ! wow, i admire that you are so much understand linux commands pretty well :( |
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| 11:34.28 | abrotman | anoHito: the grep man page is long, but a good thing to learn |
| 11:34.43 | anoHito | abrotman, Thank you. |
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| 11:35.12 | liable | !be a grep man page barbie |
| 11:35.13 | dpkg | Aww, grep man page is HARD! Let's go shopping, liable |
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| 11:35.33 | AntiInit | also new 29.1 debian kernel has issues with nvidia drivers. |
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| 11:36.39 | AntiInit | was hoping someone could recommend wifi pci card that does not require recompile of loads of packages to get master mode working |
| 11:37.13 | liable | not really |
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| 11:37.53 | liable | AntiInit: atheros cards do master mode with madwifi. |
| 11:38.10 | AntiInit | thanks |
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| 11:38.19 | anoHito | abrotman, by the way,what if there are more than one i want to use to filter in the same line ? grep -v Yahoo MSN ? |
| 11:38.25 | abrotman | AntiInit: might have more luck in #wireless |
| 11:38.49 | abrotman | anoHito: grep -v Yahoo | grep -V MSN .. for example .. or perhaps egrep -V 'Yahoo|MSN' |
| 11:38.54 | abrotman | ermm .. s/-V/-v/ |
| 11:39.17 | anoHito | abrotman, Thanks a lot,let me try. :) |
| 11:39.47 | AntiInit | what does this mean? |
| 11:39.49 | AntiInit | WARNING: modpost: Found 1 section mismatch(es). |
| 11:39.49 | AntiInit | To see full details build your kernel with: |
| 11:39.49 | AntiInit | 'make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y' |
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| 11:40.47 | AntiInit | I get this warning when compiling kernel. Was thinking may be why i cant boot properly |
| 11:40.59 | AntiInit | if i can compile i can use my lynksys card |
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| 11:48.29 | CoolCold | hi |
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| 11:48.59 | CoolCold | what is the right way to add ip addresses without configuring aliases on interface? |
| 11:49.33 | CoolCold | the only idea i have is to add smth like 'up ip addr add x.x.x.x/y dev eth0' |
| 11:50.03 | jelly-home | CoolCold: no right way, so yes, that's pretty much it |
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| 11:51.03 | CoolCold | no right way? |
| 11:51.07 | CoolCold | crap.. |
| 11:51.55 | jelly-home | CoolCold: ifupdown doesn't support it (yet) |
| 11:52.12 | xingu | jelly-home: zebra does ;) |
| 11:52.31 | xingu | or quagga if you prefer. |
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| 11:53.05 | jelly-home | not a reason to install it on every machine that needs a couple more ips |
| 11:53.12 | xingu | bah |
| 11:53.19 | xingu | IGP or bust. |
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| 11:53.49 | xingu | declares war on ARP |
| 11:54.22 | jelly-home | post-up for i in 171; do ip addr add 10.9.2.$i/29 dev eth2.503; done :-D |
| 11:55.29 | xingu | yuck |
| 11:55.29 | jelly-home | (there was `seq 11 8 195` in place of just 171 before) |
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| 11:56.43 | knoxy | hi all.. I'm trying to start my debian, but I get the error 18 of grub. How can I do to fix it? |
| 11:57.44 | jelly-home | !grub error 18 |
| 11:57.44 | dpkg | For grub error 18, see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml |
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| 11:58.42 | Firenight | hmm i can not seem to find the drivers for a broadcom 4321 |
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| 11:59.46 | adb | !b43 |
| 11:59.46 | dpkg | [b43] the new driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g wireless chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Use <b43-fwcutter> to extract version 4 firmware for this driver. USB devices are not supported (for 4320, see <rndis_wlan>). 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver. BCM4321/4322 not supported, ask about <ndiswrapper> or <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:00.26 | Firenight | wait so 4321 is not supported even with ndiswrapper? |
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| 12:05.51 | tralala | Are there any guidelines for reporting kernel bugs? |
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| 12:08.11 | nan8 | hi! i always keep my lenny quite up to date - now today there are lots of updates pending / have there been that many security updates the last few days? (i am subscribed to the security mailing list and have seen some - but I am still a bit surprised)? |
| 12:08.44 | liable | yes, lenny point release. |
| 12:09.05 | nan8 | liable: thanks (downloading 417MB ...) |
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| 12:10.29 | liable | nan8: yikes, thats huge |
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| 12:11.26 | maligor | openoffice update maybe? :P |
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| 12:11.50 | james1 | grrr |
| 12:11.51 | nan8 | maligor: yes - openoffice is probably one of the biggest parts |
| 12:11.56 | james1 | what happen to the good old days |
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| 12:12.17 | james1 | ok i am trying to mount my windows in linux to get my drivers and well its pissing me off |
| 12:12.37 | james1 | i put in mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win/ and now its saying spec the file type |
| 12:12.40 | maligor | nan8, http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090411 I guess |
| 12:12.46 | james1 | !mount |
| 12:12.46 | dpkg | mount is probably a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 12:12.47 | miksuh | well, there was almost 100 updated pckages for mys system, ofcourse the numbver depends on what you have installed |
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| 12:12.59 | miksuh | pckages == packages |
| 12:13.03 | tralala | james1, try ntfs-3g |
| 12:13.13 | james1 | where |
| 12:13.15 | james1 | at the end? |
| 12:13.17 | miksuh | mys=my, damn tupos again |
| 12:13.22 | tralala | james1, it's a package |
| 12:13.22 | miksuh | typos |
| 12:13.41 | miksuh | argh |
| 12:13.43 | james1 | why would mounting my windows dirve be a package |
| 12:13.59 | abrotman | it's a driver-ish thing |
| 12:14.05 | james1 | i see |
| 12:14.07 | tralala | james1, ntfs-3g is a package for mounting ntfs filesystems |
| 12:14.17 | jelly-home | james1: you forgot -t ntfs parameter for mount |
| 12:14.44 | james1 | installed it and it still did not work |
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| 12:16.06 | jelly-home | james1: ntfs-3g is used if you want to write on the windows partition; if you want just to read some files off it, you don't need it |
| 12:16.08 | james1 | when did hda become sda?? |
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| 12:16.41 | jelly-home | james1: for sata disks, around kernel 2.6.10 |
| 12:16.43 | at0m | james1, since it's on usb or sata? or is that on pata connection? |
| 12:16.53 | james1 | i miss the old days |
| 12:17.02 | james1 | sorry its been like 5 years sense I worked on my linux |
| 12:17.08 | maligor | pata disks also now have experimental drivers in libata, so it'd change if you switch to that |
| 12:17.22 | maligor | err s/now// |
| 12:17.27 | maligor | they've been there for a while |
| 12:17.38 | nan8 | do the packages (fixing security issues) in the new lenny point release differ from the packages provided by security.debian.org ? |
| 12:17.43 | at0m | maligor, showing them as sd? too? |
| 12:18.02 | WormFood | I plugin my mic to the front mic jack on my computer, and I can hear myself over the speakers, but I can't get any software to read it....the sound record applet does not record from it, and skype won't use it (no matter what I do with skype), but everything works ok off the back panel jacks....anyone know of a solution? |
| 12:18.05 | tralala | james1, ntfs-3g has documentation, read it to learn how to use it |
| 12:18.10 | james1 | i will |
| 12:18.30 | james1 | and one last thing. I have a touchscreen on my laptop. Anyway to set it up to work in linux? |
| 12:18.34 | at0m | WormFood, see alsamixer, in the recording tab |
| 12:18.37 | maligor | at0m, yes |
| 12:18.57 | at0m | WormFood, you've just enabled it in the playback tab.. playback goes to speakers, recording to software |
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| 12:19.50 | WormFood | alsamixer is a console/text based app...I don't see a recording "tab" |
| 12:20.02 | at0m | WormFood, press Tab |
| 12:20.15 | WormFood | oh |
| 12:20.47 | tralala | this is a kernel bug, right? http://rafb.net/p/r0lixj64.html |
| 12:20.56 | WormFood | cool...lets see if that works |
| 12:20.57 | at0m | WormFood, you shouldn't be hearing yourself through your speakers, you can mute it on playback tab.. |
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| 12:21.24 | WormFood | well, I have been able to hear myself on the speakers, but it seems no software can read it...which i thought was a little odd |
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| 12:21.44 | nan8 | probably they are rebuilt with a different changelog entry? |
| 12:21.55 | at0m | WormFood, it's totally normal :) |
| 12:22.22 | WormFood | well, I know it can route it through the speakers without need of the computer, I just didn't expect it |
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| 12:24.07 | WormFood | and the other frustrating thing is, when I try to plug in the header, I usually hit my hand on the video card fan, which is spinning surprisingly fast |
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| 12:26.57 | at0m | WormFood, there's no external (rear or front) connection? you have to actually connect it inside the case!? |
| 12:27.05 | WormFood | duh |
| 12:27.09 | WormFood | that is what I'm doing |
| 12:27.15 | at0m | =p |
| 12:27.20 | WormFood | why do you think I'm hitting my hand on the video card fan? |
| 12:28.07 | at0m | cos a) you dont have an external connection so you have to go inside, or b) you're using the wrong connector |
| 12:28.32 | WormFood | it has the right connector |
| 12:28.40 | at0m | weird |
| 12:28.53 | WormFood | I can get the audio out, and hear myself on the mic...just can't seem to get anything to work with the mic (still) |
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| 12:31.06 | WormFood | I can't even get ekiga (gnomemeeting) to give me any sound in or out |
| 12:31.10 | cahoot | capture enabled? |
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| 12:32.07 | dustybin | has anybody here ever modified the source code in a tool or application you might use? i dont think i ever have |
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| 12:32.15 | juniorsa | Hi can anyone help with a script to kill processes for all users beginning with vuxxxx where xxxx is greater than 2000 that have processes that are older than 1 day old |
| 12:32.15 | WormFood | maybe I had that all the way down |
| 12:32.23 | WormFood | testing again |
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| 12:32.46 | WormFood | juniorsa, parse the data in /proc/xxxxx where xxxxx is the process id |
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| 12:32.59 | ringo999 | what is the terminal commands to see what usb devices are available for mounting? |
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| 12:33.09 | dustybin | lsusb |
| 12:33.41 | juniorsa | WormFood: shouldn't the script just use ps data? |
| 12:33.41 | at0m | WormFood, are you sure there's no external connection for your mic? that's how it's done normally.. |
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| 12:33.44 | WormFood | it is up to you |
| 12:33.54 | ringo999 | dustybin: ok, then i see a bunch of devices but how do i know what /dev it is? |
| 12:34.09 | cahoot | WormFood: another link from alsa's faq (no guarantees) http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Record_from_mic |
| 12:34.16 | WormFood | there is a jack on the back of the computer, which I want to reconfigure as an output |
| 12:34.24 | at0m | ringo999, usually the next /dev/sd? after your onboard hd's |
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| 12:34.43 | WormFood | and then there is the header inside the computer, to the front panel, which is what I want to use for my headphones and mic input |
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| 12:35.09 | dustybin | ringo999: unplug the usb device |
| 12:35.12 | dustybin | plug it back |
| 12:35.14 | dustybin | then press |
| 12:35.16 | dustybin | dmesg |
| 12:35.27 | at0m | dmesg | tail |
| 12:35.29 | jelly-home | tries to find the dmesg button |
| 12:35.40 | dustybin | LOL |
| 12:35.45 | WormFood | and I'd love to be able to use the mic on my usb web cam, but I've had no luck with that. |
| 12:36.27 | at0m | WormFood, cat /proc/asound/devices or aplay -l |
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| 12:36.55 | at0m | WormFood, those will work if the hw is recognised properly |
| 12:37.04 | at0m | (and alsa drivers loaded) |
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| 12:38.13 | at0m | WormFood, #alsa has pretty good specific support, or http://alsa-project.org |
| 12:38.38 | at0m | your video card fan will be graterfull ;) |
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| 12:38.45 | at0m | gratefull even |
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| 12:39.16 | at0m | back to work |
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| 12:42.15 | WormFood | FINALLY! I got it to work, thanks to your help |
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| 12:42.51 | WormFood | è°¢è°¢ä½ at0m |
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| 12:43.24 | WormFood | and è°¢è°¢ä½ cahoot |
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| 12:45.06 | at0m | :) |
| 12:45.25 | WormFood | the helpful people here have saved me a LOT of time |
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| 12:45.41 | WormFood | and I know, I try to help people when I can...I know I've saved other people time too ;) |
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| 12:48.28 | dustybin | WormFood: have you just had one of those great linux moments? |
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| 12:48.52 | WormFood | no, not really |
| 12:49.00 | WormFood | just one of those great IRC moments :P |
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| 12:49.30 | gautham | How do I re-enable the flag+space run-command launcher menu which is not present anymore in IceWM after installing the contents of SilverXP theme for IceWM ? |
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| 12:50.30 | JonNight | hey I got ndisgtk and i got my drivers. I went to install bcmwl5 and it tells me Module could not be loaded error was Fatal:module ndiskwrapper not found |
| 12:50.44 | JonNight | i hit ok and it says the driver is installed and hardware is present |
| 12:51.05 | JonNight | but it does not show up in iwconfig or lsconfig |
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| 12:51.58 | k_wolf | Good morning guys. Is there any debian package for linux-headers-2.6.20.1.1-686? It's not listed on backports. |
| 12:52.28 | liable | only place would be snapshot.debian.net |
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| 12:54.33 | k_wolf | thanks liable. :D |
| 12:54.43 | JonNight | any idea what is going wrong? |
| 12:54.44 | WormFood | now does debian support the mic on usb cameras? (it supports the camera now) |
| 12:55.08 | cahoot | via snd-usb-audio |
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| 12:55.43 | WormFood | ooohhh...kernel module? |
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| 12:58.02 | Agiofws | which version do you like better http://imagebin.org/45311 or http://imagebin.org/45312 ? |
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| 13:04.07 | grirgz | Agiofws: the second is better but the globe reduce the visibility of the title |
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| 13:04.37 | Agiofws | grilled-cheese, ? |
| 13:04.58 | grilled-cheese | ? |
| 13:05.00 | Agiofws | grilled-cheese, you like the centered one better ? |
| 13:05.14 | seto | hi, I have just install debian unstable, all working fine, until reboot, now, I have a wainting for rot file system, and a busybox shell, after a minute, in grub menu I can read UUID=f816ff-... and with a cat /etc/fstab (from grub), I see /dev/sdf5 for the root partition (/ ) so I think the problem is here, what can I do ? |
| 13:05.25 | grilled-cheese | not paying attention |
| 13:05.47 | abrotman | Agiofws: #debian-offtopic |
| 13:06.28 | justin | seto: dmesg | grep sd |
| 13:06.35 | justin | seto: find your rootpartition, mount /dev/whatever /root |
| 13:07.03 | JonNight | grrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 13:08.27 | seto | justin: the problem is that I can't find the partition from busybox, (in grub it's (hd0,4), but in busybox, and dmesg, I have only sda, sdb, sdc, sdd, and nothing like sdf1, 2 etc..), so no partition seem to recognize.. |
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| 13:10.53 | seto | the problem could be with the initrd image ? and a missing module ? |
| 13:11.13 | justin | seto: if it sees your drive it should see the partitions... |
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| 13:11.49 | echo-area | Would someone like to tell me how to use the files installed by libc6-dbg? |
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| 13:12.29 | echo-area | I see the not-stripped library file is put /usr/lib/debug/lib/libc-2.9.so |
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| 13:13.12 | seto | justin: grub see the harddrive, but the linux kernel seem to see nothing (exept some usb stick devices) |
| 13:13.13 | echo-area | Am I supposed to ln -sf /usr/lib/debug/lib/libc-2.9.so /lib/libc.so.6 ? |
| 13:13.28 | justin | seto: then yeah, missing modules |
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| 13:14.02 | seto | justin: so I need to reinstall the whole system ? or could I use some rescue cd with another kernel ? |
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| 13:15.12 | justin | seto: the installer cd is a rescue cd too |
| 13:15.45 | seto | hmm, ok, (I use the debian.exe to install debian on my system.. I will burn the cd thx) |
| 13:15.54 | justin | echo-area: try LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 13:18.35 | echo-area | justin: Tried with this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug/lib gdb prog, but got seg-fault at _dl_relocate_object |
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| 13:24.36 | funyun | i need help fixing this script. i want it to find files larger than 400mb and rar/split them into half the size that they are leaving 2 rar files (part1 and part2). but instead it splits half and leaves a part3 which is always like 4K. anyone know what's wrong? |
| 13:24.46 | funyun | find -type f -size +400M -exec bash -c 'rar a -m0 -v$(( $( stat -c %s "$1" ) / 2 ))b -R "$1.rar" "$1"' - {} \; |
| 13:25.37 | justin | funyun: why are you using rar when you could use split? |
| 13:25.53 | funyun | because i need to use rar |
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| 13:26.10 | justin | why do you think you need to use rar? |
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| 13:27.32 | justin | anyway, your math is wrong |
| 13:27.39 | funyun | how so? |
| 13:27.48 | justin | you are using integer division |
| 13:27.50 | justin | try 2.0 or 1.95 |
| 13:29.05 | beware | yay for proprietary archive format |
| 13:29.05 | justin | 2.0 probably still won't work, if the file is an odd number of bytes half that would be like 100.5 bytes, which makes no sense |
| 13:29.16 | justin | 1.95 should fix the issue for you |
| 13:29.31 | justin | may need to round it after though |
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| 13:29.45 | jelly-home | funyun: or add 1 to the result |
| 13:29.46 | beware | or try 1.99 |
| 13:29.52 | seto | hmm, the debian.exe have a rescue mode too, so now all is working fine.. thx justin |
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| 13:30.08 | seto | the missing module was libata |
| 13:30.17 | justin | seto: file a bug |
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| 13:30.31 | jelly-home | funyun: (or, since you're using byte values, add, say 4096) |
| 13:30.47 | justin | jelly-home: heh, I suppose that would work too :) |
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| 13:31.11 | \amethyst | the biggest problem is that you're not taking the size of the RAR headers into account |
| 13:31.33 | justin | silly rar files and their headers :) |
| 13:31.38 | jelly-home | wonders why the split into exactly two files |
| 13:31.44 | justin | split + par2 ftw :) |
| 13:32.14 | jelly-home | so, a 400M will get split into 2*200M, but a 9GB file will get split into 2*4.5GB |
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| 13:32.25 | mazzanet | ok i have an issue |
| 13:32.35 | piper69 | good morning folks |
| 13:32.45 | mazzanet | after my last apt upgrade, X now crashes after *random time* |
| 13:32.57 | funyun | jelly-home, justin: when i replace those with the 2 i get invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".99 ") |
| 13:33.10 | \amethyst | bash doesn't do floating-point math |
| 13:33.25 | jelly-home | funyun: use bc if you want to do floating point |
| 13:33.50 | jelly-home | or just add a small buffer value |
| 13:34.00 | \amethyst | funyun: try -v$(( 4096 + $( stat -c %s "$1" ) / 2 ))b |
| 13:34.24 | \amethyst | funyun: they won't be exactly the same size, but they will be within 4K |
| 13:34.30 | justin | funyun: oh, I guess bash doesnt support floats like zsh |
| 13:34.32 | \amethyst | err, within 8K |
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| 13:34.52 | piper69 | !seen Jetscreamer |
| 13:34.52 | dpkg | jetscreamer <n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 5h 14m 39s ago, saying: 'you don't have to make a script file to do perl eh? you can just go to town?'. |
| 13:34.59 | justin | adding 4096 will work, though you might want to bump it up a bit more |
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| 13:36.43 | funyun | \amethyst: that worked. thanks a lot dude. |
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| 13:37.36 | jelly-home | funyun: why do you split your files exactly in half? |
| 13:37.55 | funyun | it didn't really have to be exactly in half. just close enough |
| 13:37.56 | jelly-home | s/half/two pieces/? |
| 13:38.12 | jelly-home | funyun: I mean, why two pieces (and not more) |
| 13:39.22 | xingu | \amethyst: I hope that script doesn't hit a file that's still growing ;) |
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| 13:40.47 | jelly-home | if it was a size limit, eg. 2 or 4GB for transferring via vfat, that'd make sense; but you're always making two archive files regardless of the actual source file size |
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| 13:42.40 | funyun | jelly-home: i needed the file sizes to be above 100mb and below 400mb. 2 is the best fit for that |
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| 13:44.08 | Hick0rd | Hello, I was updating my debian system and kernel. during the update some errors have been occurred to me. the errors are already stated over here http://pastebin.com/d113bf4d2 |
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| 13:44.19 | jelly-home | funyun: oh. That'll work if you have no source files larger than 800M, right. |
| 13:45.52 | funyun | jelly-home: yes. about 98% are less than 800. the other 2% i can do manually into 3. i just didn't want to do them all manually. |
| 13:46.08 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: do you have a file called /proc/modules present? Is this a physical machine or a virtual one? |
| 13:46.32 | beware | you could just add an if/then/else and duplicate the code |
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| 13:48.47 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, dedi |
| 13:49.08 | kamp2tux | after upgrade the kernel to 2.6.26-2-amd64, i cannot browse to my previous installed vmware server 2.0 please advise. |
| 13:49.12 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, /proc/modules is not existed |
| 13:50.04 | abrotman | kamp2tux: your ABI changed |
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| 13:51.26 | kamp2tux | abrotman, what is ABI ? |
| 13:51.46 | kamp2tux | what should i do ? |
| 13:52.22 | kamp2tux | should i re-run this command: aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential xinetd gcc-4.1 |
| 13:53.20 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: is there anything in /proc ? |
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| 13:55.12 | zsasz | I want to forward all incomming connections on a port to another on the same machine, and was looking for /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall-* to put the rules in but there is no rc.d folder.. only rc.local and rc0/6.d ... my debian knowledge is very limited so any suggestions? |
| 13:55.23 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, lemme check |
| 13:55.37 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, yes |
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| 13:58.19 | Nikke | is there any guide to get the latest nvidia drivers? |
| 13:58.21 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: pastebin the output of "uname -a", "df /proc" and "cat /proc/mounts" if /proc/mounts exists |
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| 13:58.36 | abrotman | kamp2tux: you'll have to re-run the vmware setup AFAIK |
| 13:58.43 | dmarkey | how do i specify a remote syslog server |
| 13:58.47 | abrotman | !tell Nikke about nvidia one-liner |
| 13:58.50 | Fist | hello gays |
| 13:58.52 | Fist | :D |
| 13:58.53 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, ok |
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| 13:59.48 | Nikke | abrotman: i should use the free drivers right? |
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| 14:00.23 | Fist | USA fack uoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:00.23 | Fist | USA fack uoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:00.23 | Fist | USA fack uoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 14:00.31 | Nikke | gah, please grow up |
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| 14:00.50 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/d6b5018e2 |
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| 14:01.48 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: you're using a custom kernel at present; it seems not to have support for modules, which is why that package breaks |
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| 14:02.56 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: it's a bug. But then again, you don't need that Debian provided kernel at all, so you might remove it. |
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| 14:04.26 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: oh, "echo $PATH" ? |
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| 14:04.58 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
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| 14:05.18 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, I am going to remove it. |
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| 14:06.29 | mischief6 | can i safely remove avahi and cupsd with aptitude? |
| 14:06.30 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:06.48 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, returning the same error /proc/modules not existed. |
| 14:07.04 | jetscreamer | avahi will probably take other stuff with it |
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| 14:07.24 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 is the one actually failing |
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| 14:07.55 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: /proc/modules errors are not what makes dpkg fail, it's the " |
| 14:07.55 | jelly-home | User postinst hook script [update-grub] failed to execute: No such file or directory" part |
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| 14:08.27 | mischief6 | how do i know what package provides avahi-daemon? |
| 14:08.40 | jelly-home | !+tell mischief6 -about search |
| 14:08.40 | dpkg | told mischief6 about search. |
| 14:08.43 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, how do I determine whether I'm booting with lilo or grub bootloadeR? |
| 14:09.15 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, as it seems here that grsec is works with lilo not grub, whereas the new kernel is trying to update grub |
| 14:10.00 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: grsecurity is just a kernel patch, and is boot loader agnostic |
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| 14:10.15 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: is lilo installed? |
| 14:10.49 | Nikke | is there any source.list generator for debian??? |
| 14:10.53 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, yes |
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| 14:11.22 | seto | justin: hmm.. now, no sdf in /sys/blocks/ .. so mkinird can't work.. |
| 14:11.34 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, I can not seem to find grsec in grub. but it does exist in lilo. |
| 14:11.40 | justin | seto: why is your hard drive sdf? that is very odd |
| 14:11.54 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, how do I know whether the system is using lilo or grub? |
| 14:12.34 | seto | justin: yes, don't know, it seem that this computer has a lot of usb device possiblity, sda, sdb, sdc... |
| 14:12.40 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: well, you obviously have it booted, so it seems reasonable that the boot loader that has your current kernel configured is actually in use |
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| 14:15.19 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: is grub installed? :-) |
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| 14:15.45 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: pastebin your /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 14:15.57 | mischief6 | how can i completely remove cups? |
| 14:16.10 | module000 | mischief6: apt-get purge cups |
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| 14:16.24 | module000 | mischief6: or cupsd, whichever it is |
| 14:16.51 | mischief6 | module000, that seems to break a lot of things, and i don't know how to answer the questions |
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| 14:18.18 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/m7bf7004 |
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| 14:19.29 | jelly-home | Hick0rd: right. remove or comment the last two lines, and run "dpkg --configure -a" |
| 14:19.40 | mazzanet | Running mkinitramfs-kpkg. |
| 14:19.41 | mazzanet | Deprecation WARNING: use update-initramfs(8) |
| 14:19.44 | mazzanet | poor apt. |
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| 14:20.08 | Hick0rd | jelly-home, ok, hold on |
| 14:20.28 | amimusa | hello, i am looking for a simple program to record my movements as a video to create a videotutorial, any ? |
| 14:20.30 | amimusa | thanks in advance |
| 14:20.46 | amimusa | the movements with the mouse i meant :p |
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| 14:20.55 | amimusa | and actions and so ... |
| 14:21.03 | momo | i have a question, how similiar is ubuntu to debian? |
| 14:21.13 | azeem_ | amimusa: look at istanbul or byzanz |
| 14:21.23 | momo | merhaba? |
| 14:21.31 | amimusa | jeje i know isanbul developer :) |
| 14:21.35 | amimusa | i worked with him |
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| 14:21.42 | amimusa | thanks |
| 14:21.59 | amimusa | i didn't remember the name |
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| 14:24.15 | mischief6 | okay, i just removed cups and foomatic. now aptitude wants to remove xorg to fix unresolved dependencies. why? |
| 14:25.00 | valdyn | mischief6: we dont know, thats probably unrelated |
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| 14:25.17 | jetscreamer | mischief: sid? |
| 14:25.17 | mischief6 | unrelated to what? |
| 14:25.22 | mischief6 | jetscreamer, lenny |
| 14:25.25 | mischief6 | fresh install |
| 14:25.28 | valdyn | mischief6: unrelated to cups or foomatic |
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| 14:25.35 | valdyn | mischief6: run aptitude install xorg, done |
| 14:25.42 | jetscreamer | well don't let it |
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| 14:25.53 | mischief6 | um, well, xorg is just one thing it wants to remove |
| 14:25.53 | jetscreamer | or or wht he siad |
| 14:26.01 | mischief6 | it has a list of 89 packages it wants to remove |
| 14:26.04 | mischief6 | and install 10 others |
| 14:26.21 | mischief6 | er, 74 removals* |
| 14:26.25 | valdyn | mischief6: ok, we cant guess what that is, my 8-ball is at repair |
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| 14:26.36 | jelly-home | tell it "+package-you-want-to-keep" |
| 14:26.50 | mischief6 | valdyn, i'm not asking for a guess, i'm looking for answers |
| 14:26.50 | jelly-home | (assuming command line) |
| 14:26.56 | mischief6 | jelly-home, ncurses |
| 14:27.10 | Polarina | watches Big Buck Bunny. |
| 14:27.56 | jelly-home | mischief6: well, put a + next to xorg in the lower panel then, I think. That UI is confusing to me, I prefer the command line |
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| 14:28.57 | anoHito | in debian, there is a /etc/crontab, i just delete line from it that is okay ? |
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| 14:29.18 | module000 | anoHito: use "crontab -e", never touch the crontab itself |
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| 14:29.24 | valdyn | anoHito: no |
| 14:29.28 | anoHito | oh |
| 14:29.38 | jelly-home | module000: /etc/crontab isn't handled by the crontab command |
| 14:29.55 | mischief6 | jelly-home, the only reason i know that aptitude wants to do this is because of the ncurses UI |
| 14:29.56 | jelly-home | anoHito: which line do you want to delete? |
| 14:30.04 | valdyn | he *really* wants to use /etc/cron.d/ or somesuch |
| 14:30.06 | stew | anoHito: did /etc/crontab contain anything other than cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} ? what did you delete? |
| 14:30.07 | mischief6 | when i removed cups it didn't want to remove this other stuff |
| 14:30.12 | jetscreamer | the cli would tell you |
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| 14:30.26 | jetscreamer | ok so you removed cups, then wht did you do |
| 14:30.36 | mischief6 | then i ran `aptitude` |
| 14:30.46 | mischief6 | and the resolver wanted to remove/install this stuff. |
| 14:30.53 | jelly-home | mischief6: care to paste a screenshot? |
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| 14:30.59 | mischief6 | sure |
| 14:30.59 | jetscreamer | kill it run aptitude dist-upgrade imo ... i bet you never did |
| 14:31.13 | thrashold | Is there any way to repair a Debian installation? Half of the files are missing due to filesystem crash, is there any way that installed packages are reinstalled if there are missing files? |
| 14:31.16 | mischief6 | uh..no. i didn't. why would i need to do that? |
| 14:31.24 | valdyn | !reinstall |
| 14:31.24 | dpkg | it has been said that reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
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| 14:31.27 | valdyn | thrashold: ^^ |
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| 14:31.40 | anoHito | hmm |
| 14:31.49 | jelly-home | thrashold: if /var/lib/dpkg/status is intact, you can reinstall all the packages using what valdyn points to |
| 14:32.06 | anoHito | i have a line in /etc/crontab that i have added it before, i forgot in which way i have had done this . |
| 14:32.08 | anoHito | 0 * * * * root chown -R yamada: /home/yamada/domains/default/index/* |
| 14:32.16 | anoHito | now i do not need it,so i need to delete it |
| 14:32.18 | thrashold | Thank you :) |
| 14:32.23 | mischief6 | jetscreamer, doing a dist-upgrade removes/installs no packages. |
| 14:32.25 | jelly-home | anoHito: right. you can just delete it. |
| 14:32.30 | jetscreamer | aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
| 14:32.47 | valdyn | anoHito: theres only really one way to edit /etc/crontab, thats your editor |
| 14:32.59 | Skept | Hi, on upgrading acpi my laptop trackpad isnt working. And I get this message "cat: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info: No such file or directory" when I try to look for battery charge. How can I troubleshoot it? |
| 14:33.00 | anoHito | i use vi. |
| 14:33.03 | valdyn | anoHito: the point was that you should not touch /etc/crontab in any way |
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| 14:33.38 | anoHito | valdyn, huh ? even i can not delete that line use vi ? |
| 14:33.47 | valdyn | anoHito: sure you can |
| 14:33.48 | mischief6 | jetscreamer, h/o getting a screenshot of aptitude |
| 14:33.55 | jetscreamer | np |
| 14:34.00 | mischief6 | jetscreamer, http://imagebin.ca/view/72pJPi.html see the bottom? |
| 14:34.16 | valdyn | anoHito: that hint is for the future, not for removing changes you already made |
| 14:34.22 | mischief6 | using 'e' examine brings up that list, which includes gimp, gdm, xorg, etc |
| 14:34.27 | anoHito | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.31 | jelly-home | anoHito: he meant, a user usually puts their cron lines elsewhere, not in /etc/crontab |
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| 14:34.58 | valdyn | anoHito: cron is fragile, that is why /etc/crontab is a bad place to edit, that is all |
| 14:35.02 | jelly-home | anoHito: there are /etc/cron.* directories and user crontabs (the crontab -e thing) |
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| 14:35.32 | stew | valdyn: and you are saying he should do what? use crontab -e? |
| 14:35.40 | anoHito | I see. |
| 14:35.42 | stew | valdyn: becuase /etc/crontab IS for admin use |
| 14:35.54 | valdyn | stew: edit /etc/cron.d/somefile |
| 14:35.59 | anoHito | i have already deleted it in crontab by using vi |
| 14:36.02 | stew | valdyn: no, that is for packages |
| 14:36.08 | valdyn | stew: i dont like crontab -e though |
| 14:36.19 | stew | valdyn: "man 8 cron" says explicitly not to use /etc/cron.d |
| 14:36.24 | valdyn | stew: uh |
| 14:36.30 | valdyn | stew: thats evil |
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| 14:36.32 | stew | valdyn: man 8 cron says to use /etc/crontab |
| 14:36.34 | jelly-home | stew: he should remove the line now. the less conffiles are touched, the better. :-) |
| 14:36.36 | manu_hack | is it necessary to upgrage to linux-image-2.6.26-2-686? |
| 14:36.38 | valdyn | stew: how am I supposed to edit cron safely then? |
| 14:36.45 | valdyn | stew: crontab surely is damn fragile |
| 14:36.49 | manu_hack | was talking about lenny |
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| 14:37.13 | mischief6 | any ideas jetscreamer ;..; |
| 14:37.31 | stew | valdyn: hire an admin that doesn't fuck up? :P |
| 14:37.42 | valdyn | stew: they all do |
| 14:37.46 | stew | i know |
| 14:38.04 | anoHito | valdyn, hire stew haha |
| 14:38.11 | jelly-home | stew: personally I think using custom /etc/cron.d/ entries beats messing with a conffile |
| 14:38.13 | stew | fucks up |
| 14:38.30 | stew | jelly-home: well, i'm just pointing out that the manpage explicitly says not to do that |
| 14:38.55 | valdyn | personally ill keep violating that policy and put my things in /etc/cron.d |
| 14:39.02 | jelly-home | stew: and I'm pointing out the man page can be wrong |
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| 14:39.19 | module000 | the policy is in place for big production boxes, with multiple admins, where Joe doesnt' know that Susy did things her own way and didn't use crontab |
| 14:39.26 | stew | perhaps the pro solution is to put the changes into a package which drops a file into /etc/cron.d :) |
| 14:39.27 | module000 | but for 1-admin boxes, do whatever you want |
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| 14:39.41 | valdyn | module000: that policy is even more dangerous in that case |
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| 14:40.04 | module000 | valdyn: it works fine when everyone follows it |
| 14:40.09 | stew | if the cronjob is going to run as root, crontab -e is probably best |
| 14:40.15 | valdyn | module000: it works fine when no one makes a mistake |
| 14:40.19 | jelly-home | until Debian stops nagging for every conffiles and enforces ucf for everything, I'll keep not touching conffiles at all if possible |
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| 14:40.25 | valdyn | module000: thats not realistic |
| 14:40.33 | module000 | valdyn: mistakes like that are self-correcting..ie: we fire you |
| 14:40.54 | valdyn | module000: thats not correcting anything |
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| 14:41.19 | module000 | valdyn: it works for my company - that's enough for me |
| 14:41.32 | jelly-home | module000: our policy at work is "use whatever as long as you document it on the internal wiki" |
| 14:41.38 | valdyn | module000: i doubt that any company can afford to fire people for single mistakes |
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| 14:41.52 | valdyn | module000: well, your cleaning woman maybe, but not experiences personell |
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| 14:42.18 | module000 | valdyn: i'm not the boss and don't make the rules, but the rules are strict |
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| 14:44.30 | jetscreamer | mischief6: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade ? |
| 14:44.52 | jetscreamer | or apt-get -f install |
| 14:44.53 | mischief6 | jetscreamer, worked fine, removed no packages and installed none |
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| 14:46.45 | jetscreamer | gtg |
| 14:47.13 | NoReGreT | is it ok to add a squeeze repo in lenny to get a package ? since it's outdate in lenny |
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| 14:47.33 | jetscreamer | !backport |
| 14:47.33 | dpkg | i guess backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
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| 14:49.05 | anoHito | i am currently looking at the tcpdump ,but i would like the result go to a file ,i tried with -w spider.txt ,but it says error |
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| 14:49.28 | anoHito | tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -w - dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' spider.txt |
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| 14:50.13 | anoHito | any clue ? |
| 14:50.38 | justin | anoHito: > ? |
| 14:50.53 | justin | anoHito: also, I think you want to be using urlsnarf |
| 14:51.06 | anoHito | urlsnarf ? |
| 14:51.17 | anoHito | I do not get it. |
| 14:52.12 | Nikke | bah, i tried to install nvidia drivers now i cant start gdm anymore |
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| 14:55.59 | yetifoot | does anyone know a graphical tool that can check SMART on harddrives, and do equiv of fsck? |
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| 14:56.58 | jelly-home | yetifoot: smart errors aren't correctible by fsck? |
| 14:57.05 | PowerPeeCee | what's the easiest way to sudo aptitiude install a list of packages, some i have and some i don't have? |
| 14:57.12 | vitaminx | hello, does anybody know how to get alsa apps running in parallel to jackd |
| 14:57.33 | justin | PowerPeeCee: sudo aptitude list of packages |
| 14:57.38 | vitaminx | since now my flashplayer is silent while running jackd |
| 14:57.41 | justin | PowerPeeCee: er, 'install' helps |
| 14:57.48 | jelly-home | PowerPeeCee: jst run what you just said :-) |
| 14:57.54 | PowerPeeCee | justin: heh, easy enough... |
| 14:58.07 | jelly-home | space separated list |
| 14:58.11 | PowerPeeCee | thanks jelly-home, i should've thought of that. doh! |
| 14:58.41 | yetifoot | jelly-home, this is for a noob, he can't understand how to use any command line program, and he's about to just go and do it on a windows machine, i need to save him before it's too late |
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| 14:59.22 | anoHito | justin, it does not work by using > pipe |
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| 14:59.29 | anoHito | there is empty in the file |
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| 14:59.39 | anoHito | but actually,there are many bots are coming. |
| 14:59.43 | justin | anoHito: you put the > in the wrong place |
| 14:59.49 | justin | anoHito: and agai, you should be using urlsnarf |
| 14:59.52 | valdyn | yetifoot: gsmartcontrol |
| 14:59.54 | hagna | why is hald-addon-stor taking 100% of cpu? |
| 15:00.02 | yetifoot | valdyn, thanks, will check it out |
| 15:00.25 | jelly-home | yetifoot: sorry, I can't help there. Data recovery is best left to professionals anyway. |
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| 15:00.53 | anoHito | justin, i will try urlsnarf later,now i need to figure out why it does not work , tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -w - dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' > spider.txt |
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| 15:01.27 | justin | anoHito: tcpdump and grep buffer output and input |
| 15:01.34 | justin | anoHito: each has an option to disable buffering |
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| 15:02.44 | Knight_Lord | Is there any command from which i can easily figure out the architecture of my userland? |
| 15:02.53 | yetifoot | valdyn, extra thanks, i just checked it, and this looks perfect for him |
| 15:02.58 | justin | Knight_Lord: uname? |
| 15:03.08 | Knight_Lord | uname -m doesn't quite work because my kernel is different from the userland |
| 15:03.09 | anoHito | i do not understand. |
| 15:03.46 | jelly-home | Knight_Lord: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 15:04.08 | Knight_Lord | jelly-home: exactly, thanks a lot |
| 15:04.23 | upIRC | my wlan keeps dropping modems still connected but USB dongle is not? any hints as to what this may be? |
| 15:04.31 | upIRC | using the zydas driver |
| 15:05.15 | upIRC | other PC is wifi that doesn't drop |
| 15:06.26 | NoReGreT | I couldn't find the pakackage in backports (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/gammu/download), so what can i do in this case ? |
| 15:06.46 | abrotman | judd: versions gammu |
| 15:06.47 | judd | abrotman: gammu -- etch: 1.08.00-1 lenny: 1.20.0-1 sid: 1.23.1-2 squeeze: 1.23.1-2 experimental: 1.23.92-1 |
| 15:07.04 | NoReGreT | abrotman: i want 1.23.1 |
| 15:07.13 | NoReGreT | and i'm running 5.0 |
| 15:07.19 | NoReGreT | debian ie |
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| 15:07.38 | hagna | is hald-addon-stor important or can I just kill it |
| 15:07.52 | hagna | ? |
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| 15:08.52 | NoReGreT | abrotman: so can I use the squeeze repo for it or not ? or shall i copmile/install from source ? |
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| 15:11.49 | abrotman | !tell NoReGreT about ssb |
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| 15:21.06 | JyZyXEL | umount: /mnt/superhd: device is busy |
| 15:21.29 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: lsof -n | grep /mnt/superh |
| 15:21.46 | JyZyXEL | someone should REALLY add that to umount output |
| 15:21.57 | abrotman | someone should really be smarter ... |
| 15:22.01 | JyZyXEL | cause i forgoet every time |
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| 15:22.47 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: we have hope the user will learn one day |
| 15:23.01 | abrotman | thinks JyZyXEL might be the admin |
| 15:23.18 | jelly-home | everyone is user in #debian |
| 15:23.39 | jelly-home | a* user |
| 15:23.49 | abrotman | everyone? |
| 15:24.05 | JyZyXEL | another command i always forget is the one that shows all the current sockets |
| 15:24.17 | stew | JyZyXEL: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 15:24.20 | jelly-home | JyZyXEL: write it down! |
| 15:24.27 | stew | alias it! |
| 15:25.04 | jelly-home | hire a person without memory loss issues! |
| 15:25.10 | jpinx | what other programme in debian apart from OOo will open a crapshit.pps ? |
| 15:26.31 | anoHito | i still can not make tcpdump to write to a file :( |
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| 15:27.04 | jelly-home | anoHito: what error do you get? Are you running as root? |
| 15:27.08 | abrotman | jpinx: kpresent perhaps ? |
| 15:27.15 | anoHito | yes as root. |
| 15:27.31 | jelly-home | anoHito: what does your command line look like? |
| 15:27.44 | dmarkey | how do i specify a remote syslog server |
| 15:28.14 | anoHito | i have tried tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -w - dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' > /root/spider.txt , no error, but i do not say any results in screen anymore, after i ctrl + c to terminate it, says many packages are captured,but then i check that spider.txt, it is empty. |
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| 15:28.30 | jelly-home | anoHito: -w- is not a file. |
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| 15:29.03 | anoHito | jelly-home, if without the final > /root/spider.txt, i get real-time results in screen. |
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| 15:29.06 | jpinx | abrotman: hmm -- aptitude isn't finding a kpresent |
| 15:29.16 | jpinx | rummages around in packages |
| 15:29.22 | anoHito | jelly-home, huh ? |
| 15:29.56 | jelly-home | anoHito: it's standard output! :-) |
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| 15:30.20 | RoyK | hi all. an old customer just called and wanted this old Etch install updated, but it seems the old apt source has ceased to exist - I was using this one http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ |
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| 15:30.37 | anoHito | jelly-home, my goal is make the result to be written in a file |
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| 15:30.56 | module000 | anoHito: don't bother with -w then, you are writing the results to the file at the end with > |
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| 15:31.00 | jelly-home | anoHito: but it's not tcpdump that is doing the writing to a file |
| 15:31.13 | RoyK | any idea where I can find a good apt source line for etch amd64? |
| 15:31.33 | jpinx | !tell RoyK about etch->lenny |
| 15:31.55 | RoyK | jpinx: I'm not considering such a big jump |
| 15:32.01 | RoyK | it works on etch |
| 15:32.12 | jpinx | RoyK: debian.org has a repos listing somewhere |
| 15:32.19 | RoyK | it's just that the old sources.list seems outdated |
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| 15:32.23 | anoHito | is confused |
| 15:32.26 | ustunozgur | hi, using cups to print some documents on gestetner printers, I get black rectangles instead of some characters at random places. any ideas how to fix this? I have tried several ppd files, but none works correctly. do I have a font problem? |
| 15:32.30 | jelly-home | anoHito: perhaps you want the final egrep to write its output immediately. what if you add --line-buffered to it? |
| 15:32.32 | yetifoot | RoyK, this seems to work? http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ |
| 15:32.42 | yetifoot | there are some files there anyway... |
| 15:32.44 | jpinx | RoyK: ok stay with etch for now, but be aware that it won't be support forever - probably only this year |
| 15:32.48 | jelly-home | anoHito: I'd also suggest using -n with tcpdump |
| 15:33.00 | anoHito | jelly-home, let me try. |
| 15:33.27 | jpinx | !tell RoyK about sources |
| 15:34.10 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:34.44 | vitaminx | hello, does anybody know how to get alsa apps running in parallel to jackd |
| 15:35.03 | vitaminx | flashplayer is silent while running jackd |
| 15:35.15 | RoyK | wtf - this is sarge |
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| 15:35.30 | yetifoot | hah |
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| 15:35.47 | yetifoot | it looks like with etch amd64 was promoted from being a second class citizen |
| 15:35.55 | jelly-home | RoyK: the "/debian-amd64" part should probably be removed |
| 15:35.58 | yetifoot | http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian4.0r8/ |
| 15:36.05 | anoHito | jelly-home, same ,empty. |
| 15:36.06 | yetifoot | in that one amd64 is mainline |
| 15:36.06 | ska | I have a legacy version of Sarge in a chroot. The lpr version is not compatible with the current version of CUPS. Is there any way to work-around? Maybe a back-ported version of cups for sarge |
| 15:36.07 | bolt | can someone explain autossh's monitoring ports to me? I'm not sure on which machines these ports are used. like, can I have two clients, both set to use monitor port 2000, connected to the same server at the same time? or are the ports reserved on the server, so they would crash? |
| 15:36.08 | RoyK | jelly-home: for this to work with sarge? |
| 15:36.21 | jelly-home | RoyK: and if it's sarge, ... it's gone to archive.debian.org |
| 15:36.32 | anoHito | jelly-home, tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -X dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' --line-buffered > /root/spiders.txt |
| 15:36.37 | RoyK | jelly-home: ah |
| 15:37.42 | Bitruder | Is there a respoitory with libtool 2? I can only find libtool 1.5.26 in the default repositories |
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| 15:38.00 | jelly-home | anoHito: are you sure there is traffic matching at this time? |
| 15:38.32 | jelly-home | RoyK: they should reconsider upgrading, sarge isn't maintained any more |
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| 15:38.59 | jpinx | !tell RoyK about sarge->etch |
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| 15:39.12 | jelly-home | judd: versions libtool |
| 15:39.13 | judd | jelly-home: libtool -- etch: 1.5.22-4 etch-backports: 1.5.24-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.26-4 squeeze: 1.5.26-4 sid: 2.2.6a-4 |
| 15:39.43 | jelly-home | Bitruder: you could make a backport from sid, /msg dpkg ssb |
| 15:40.03 | Bitruder | thanks |
| 15:40.05 | tty | tragedy in grub |
| 15:40.26 | tty | i knew i should not have screwed around with mandrivas partition manager! |
| 15:40.31 | Bitruder | Could I just change everything to sid? |
| 15:40.42 | martian67 | Bitruder, if you like pain :) |
| 15:40.43 | tty | error 15 .. nothing is loading |
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| 15:42.03 | jelly-home | !grub error 15 |
| 15:42.03 | dpkg | For grub error 15, see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml |
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| 15:42.24 | jelly-home | Bitruder: you REALLY don't want to do that |
| 15:42.46 | Bitruder | ok :) |
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| 15:44.16 | anoHito | jelly-home, yes, if i only do tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -w - dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' ,i got lots of traffic |
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| 15:45.13 | justin | sighs |
| 15:45.19 | justin | 11:01 < justin> anoHito: tcpdump and grep buffer output and input |
| 15:45.19 | justin | 11:01 < justin> anoHito: each has an option to disable buffering |
| 15:45.30 | jelly-home | anoHito: I'm clueless on that; but it's unlikely to be tcpdump's fault |
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| 15:45.37 | anoHito | i do not understand, justin . |
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| 15:45.43 | fundecem | Hola necesito instalar pgadmin3 en DEbian Lenny |
| 15:45.54 | jpinx | !es |
| 15:45.54 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:46.01 | justin | anoHito: man grep, man tcpdump /buffer |
| 15:46.31 | jelly-home | justin: notice that disabling buffering on the final process in the pipe didn't help |
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| 15:47.02 | justin | jelly-home: *shrug* works for me |
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| 15:47.29 | funky | hello |
| 15:47.42 | funky | I can't install lastest version of nvidia module |
| 15:47.45 | funky | http://pastebin.com/d186f47e1 |
| 15:48.28 | funky | any idea of what is going on ? |
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| 15:48.54 | martian67 | funky, we dont help with stuff that has nothing to do with debian |
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| 15:49.06 | funky | ? |
| 15:49.20 | martian67 | its a propreitary module supplied by nvidia |
| 15:49.23 | martian67 | ask them for help |
| 15:49.27 | funky | I'm using debian (sid), and I'm trying to install a package that comes within one of its repositories |
| 15:49.41 | martian67 | no, it dosent come in debian repositories |
| 15:49.52 | justin | martian67: yes it does. |
| 15:49.56 | funky | it does in non-free |
| 15:50.07 | martian67 | !non-free |
| 15:50.07 | dpkg | i guess non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 15:50.11 | jelly-home | martian67: only if you say non-free isn't a debian repo |
| 15:50.15 | justin | funky: what happens if you just dpkg -i it |
| 15:50.22 | funky | justin: haven't tried |
| 15:50.36 | funky | there we go |
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| 15:51.33 | jelly-home | funky: you didn't remake the modules for 180.44? |
| 15:52.09 | funky | I never had to |
| 15:52.16 | jelly-home | funky: you have to now. |
| 15:53.14 | jelly-home | funky: the m-a created module packages will satisfy the dependencies for new nvidia-glx |
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| 15:54.17 | jelly-home | !nvidia m-a |
| 15:54.17 | dpkg | The short version: aptitude install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. For instructions that should work, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
| 15:54.32 | anoHito | tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -X -U dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' --line-buffered > /root/spiders.txt same. |
| 15:54.48 | justin | anoHito: just use urlsnarf |
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| 15:54.52 | funky | jelly-home: thank you man |
| 15:55.45 | justin | anoHito: lol |
| 15:55.45 | anoHito | justin, :( |
| 15:55.45 | justin | anoHito: your using grep wrong too |
| 15:55.49 | justin | oh, nm, you are using egrep |
| 15:56.03 | justin | anoHito: wha happens if you run tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -X -U dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' ? |
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| 15:57.55 | anoHito | justin, i got nothing. |
| 15:57.56 | jelly-home | would use tcpdump -ni eth0 -l -s 0 -X -U dst port 80 | egrep -i --line-buffered 'user-agent.*bot|crawler|slurp|spider' > blah |
| 15:58.08 | jelly-home | anoHito: no need for strings if you're doing -X |
| 15:58.10 | anoHito | justin, with tcpdump -i eth0 -l -s 0 -w - dst port 80 | strings | grep -i user-agent | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' i got plenty of real-time traffic. |
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| 15:58.46 | justin | would use urlsnarf | egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' |
| 15:58.51 | jelly-home | anoHito: and that line buffering option for tcpdump, too |
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| 15:59.24 | jelly-home | oh, it's there |
| 15:59.31 | anoHito | ? |
| 15:59.50 | jelly-home | ?? |
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| 16:00.03 | jelly-home | -l |
| 16:00.14 | anoHito | I mean, i do not understand why should be the correct answer . |
| 16:00.20 | anoHito | what* |
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| 16:03.18 | matt7676 | I live in NY and my parents live in LA. I have set up an Debian machine for them, which has three partitions: / 150GB(55GB free), SWAP 1GB and /home 49GB(1GB free). The problem is, that /home partition is becoming full. Content of / partition is not important- all the important stuff is on the /home. I would like to copy the content of the /home to root partition, delete /home partition and finally extend the root partition. However, partit |
| 16:03.25 | jelly-home | mhm, -X output doesn't work that well for your purpose |
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| 16:03.47 | fundecem | Buen Dia! Me podrian ayudar, necesito instalar Pgadmin3 en Lenny |
| 16:03.52 | anoHito | oh |
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| 16:04.11 | justin | matt7676: what the hack is taking up 100G on / ? |
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| 16:04.30 | Yasuo | hiho |
| 16:04.38 | stew | matt7676: you got cut off at "However, partit" |
| 16:04.45 | Yasuo | im installing debian5, what means [x]standard system? |
| 16:04.45 | anoHito | jelly-home, actually, the goal is make the result of egrep -i 'bot|crawler|slurp|spider' to a file at all. |
| 16:04.51 | stew | !es |
| 16:04.51 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:05.18 | matt7676 | However, partitioning over ssh is dangeros and isn't there a smarter way to accomplish that? |
| 16:05.29 | stew | Yasuo: it means install all packages that are priority required,important,standard |
| 16:05.31 | jelly-home | anoHito: fwiw, I can reproduce this behavior, on a sarge machine :-) |
| 16:05.44 | anoHito | jelly-home, please :) |
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| 16:06.59 | Yasuo | stew: thanks |
| 16:07.02 | jelly-home | anoHito: it's just buffered somewhere. If I leave it be, it appears in the file eventually |
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| 16:07.27 | anoHito | oh |
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| 16:07.55 | stew | Yasuo: its NOT a graphical environment, its a cli environment with some things you might expect to have in a cli environment, like dns utilities, a mail reader, locate, python, a telnet client, etc |
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| 16:09.37 | Yasuo | stew: sounds fine since i wanna install apache via a webfrontend later |
| 16:11.03 | NoReGreT | when getting gspca-modules from synatic, are they automatically modprobed ? |
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| 16:11.59 | jelly-home | anoHito: WFM: tcpdump -ni eth0 -l -s 0 -w- -U dst port 80 | egrep --text -i --line-buffered 'user-agent.*(bot|crawler|slurp|spider)' > /tmp/blah |
| 16:12.12 | anoHito | jelly-home, let me try. |
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| 16:13.18 | anoHito | jelly-home, magic magic ! |
| 16:13.20 | anoHito | haha |
| 16:13.23 | jelly-home | anoHito: I've also put a "tr '\0' '\n' " into the pipe instead of strings |
| 16:13.52 | jelly-home | that way --text can be omitted, and there're no \0 bytes in the output |
| 16:14.13 | jpinx | there's a package called pptviewer which requires wine - is this normal? |
| 16:14.26 | anoHito | jelly-home, let me try. |
| 16:14.32 | roe | can I search sarge's repos still? I am interested in what version of bind shipped with sarge |
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| 16:14.47 | myeggo | hello, is there a way to create a cd mp3 from a .m3u file? |
| 16:14.53 | jelly-home | jpinx: what repo is that package in? |
| 16:14.56 | myeggo | serpentine can do that but only audio |
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| 16:15.18 | jpinx | jelly-home: I found it with apt-cache search |
| 16:15.21 | jelly-home | roe: archive.debian.org |
| 16:15.34 | jpinx | jelly-home: and it installed "normally" |
| 16:15.35 | jelly-home | jpinx: apt-cache policy packagename |
| 16:15.56 | jelly-home | jelly-home: or s/policy/madison/ |
| 16:15.56 | asdfqwer | does copying a large set of files bottle-neck if you perform the operation via gnome? |
| 16:15.59 | jelly-home | er |
| 16:16.05 | jelly-home | jpinx: or s/policy/madison/ |
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| 16:16.22 | roe | jelly-home, is there a web search form for that? |
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| 16:16.57 | jelly-home | roe: for packages in the archive? I don't know of one. |
| 16:17.07 | jpinx | jelly-home: ok - so it's non-free, but it's not a linux application - let alone debian |
| 16:17.09 | fooblargh | when running X at 1920*1080, i get _huge_ fonts, no matter if i am using KDE or GTK applications |
| 16:17.15 | fooblargh | how can i fix this? |
| 16:17.22 | jelly-home | jpinx: you didn't say which repo |
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| 16:17.28 | roe | jelly-home, best bet then is adding it as a source I guess? |
| 16:17.38 | Gryflhase | fooblargh, : Somewhe in xorg you can set DI |
| 16:17.42 | Gryflhase | DPI |
| 16:17.52 | jpinx | jelly-home: sorry - 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/non-free Packages |
| 16:17.55 | delaman | trying to install ngircd on my dedi etch server but i can not get it to work,,,, is there anything special i need to do to get it working? |
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| 16:17.58 | Gryflhase | don't know anymore where or how, but try google |
| 16:18.17 | fooblargh | Gryflhase, what value would make sense? |
| 16:18.38 | jelly-home | jpinx: well, non-free is technically not part of debian, so yes. |
| 16:18.55 | scientes | how do i run the coreutils tests? |
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| 16:18.56 | jpinx | jelly-home: I suppose so :-/ |
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| 16:19.25 | jelly-home | judd: versions pptviewer |
| 16:19.25 | judd | jelly-home: pptviewer -- |
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| 16:19.34 | ska | Is there a backport version of CUPS for Sarge? |
| 16:19.45 | jpinx | judd: versions pptview |
| 16:19.46 | jelly-home | jpinx: I suggest you verify your sources.list |
| 16:19.46 | judd | jpinx: pptview -- etch/non-free: 8.0-5 lenny/non-free: 8.0-5 sid/non-free: 8.0-6 squeeze/non-free: 8.0-6 |
| 16:20.04 | jelly-home | oh |
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| 16:20.17 | jpinx | jelly-home: just my bad typo here |
| 16:20.25 | Gryflhase | fooblargh, try 72, 90 or 100 |
| 16:20.53 | Gryflhase | 75, 90, or 100 |
| 16:20.54 | jelly-home | jpinx: if it's freely distributable, why not |
| 16:21.04 | Gryflhase | I guess 100 gives smaller fonts |
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| 16:21.19 | jelly-home | !dpi |
| 16:21.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, dpi is your Dots Per Inch setting, which affects the size of your fonts. Remove any explicit DPI settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or your display manager's configuration file, and X should autodetect your DPI. If not, add DisplaySize Width_in_milimeters Height_in_millimeters to Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. |
| 16:21.33 | jpinx | apt-cache searh has not shown anything that will allow viewing crapshit.pps /.ppt files in debian natively |
| 16:21.54 | jelly-home | Gryflhase: windows uses 96 or 120. X has bitmap fonts for 75 and 100 dpi. |
| 16:21.59 | jpinx | only OOo :( |
| 16:22.39 | jelly-home | jpinx: pptview doesn't work? |
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| 16:23.06 | jpinx | it need wine and screws up my sound so I have to restart iceweasel :( |
| 16:23.20 | fooblargh | Gryflhase, ok, thanks |
| 16:23.28 | fooblargh | seems i need to save that to .Xdefaults |
| 16:23.29 | jelly-home | jpinx: install libwine-alsa instead of libwine-oss |
| 16:23.38 | fooblargh | if i am not back soon, it worked :) |
| 16:23.55 | jpinx | uses alsa already |
| 16:24.06 | jelly-home | jpinx: run winecfg to change the sounds driver for wine |
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| 16:24.17 | fooblargh | jelly-home, ah, just saw your link |
| 16:25.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | wine screws up your sound? |
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| 16:26.01 | BaCiJliu | Èäèòå íà õóé êîðåéöû åáàííûå |
| 16:26.06 | stew | !russian |
| 16:26.06 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net |
| 16:26.17 | BaCiJliu | Óñêîãëàçûå åáëàíû |
| 16:26.31 | BaCiJliu | Âñåì ïðèâåò! |
| 16:26.36 | stew | BaCiJliu: #debian-russian |
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| 16:26.46 | BaCiJliu | õóé òåáå áîò |
| 16:26.48 | anoHito | jelly-home, you have completely fixed the problem, Thank you very much and very appreciate your helps. |
| 16:26.51 | BaCiJliu | óäîò |
| 16:26.53 | stew | BaCiJliu: english only in here, /join #debian-russian |
| 16:26.59 | BaCiJliu | íèãåðû åñòü? |
| 16:27.01 | anoHito | justin, Thanks for the buffering info too. |
| 16:27.10 | BaCiJliu | fucking chaineese |
| 16:27.34 | BaCiJliu | justin fuck you |
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| 16:27.57 | stew | BaCiJliu: feel free to /msg me if you decide you have something on-topic |
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| 16:28.23 | jelly-home | !stew++ |
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| 16:28.45 | BillyCrook1 | what is the equivalent of 'rpm -qa' in apt? |
| 16:28.55 | stew | BillyCrook1: aptitude search '~i' |
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| 16:29.08 | jelly-home | BillyCrook1: or dpkg -l |grep ^.i |
| 16:29.26 | BillyCrook1 | wow that was fast |
| 16:29.30 | jpinx | purges wine, purges pptview, resets sound and gets back to work |
| 16:30.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | russian? |
| 16:30.06 | jpinx | crapshit MS formats >:o |
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| 16:31.28 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: stuff like Ãñåì ïðèâåò! is usually a KOI8-* encoding |
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| 16:32.04 | jpinx | jelly-home: it b0rked iceweasels sound and pptview was crap anyway |
| 16:32.14 | jpinx | I'll just use OOo |
| 16:32.22 | jpinx | and do without the sound |
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| 16:32.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, looks to me like I press alt, then all kindsa keys äåéëÃáð áÃfðäüäå hðfåéë :) |
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| 16:33.26 | phobik | anyone gotten profile.postinst to work with simple-cdd? Mine refuses to run for some reason, wondering if it's a bug |
| 16:33.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | (I understand that Ã-something often encodes to things) |
| 16:33.29 | jpinx | gets Ãæð»¢Åe and similar with AlrGr |
| 16:33.38 | jelly-home | вÑ
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| 16:33.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | ÏηαδδαÏ
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α! |
| 16:34.10 | jpinx | nazdravia jelly-home |
| 16:34.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, enough ot-fun, I guess |
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| 16:36.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | although... did it ever occur to you, that nearly every time, after someone's been told to stop being OT, there's a pause in which nobody says anything and people just join&leave? |
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| 16:36.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | weird, that |
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| 16:37.19 | jelly-home | that's just to fuck with the ot nazi |
| 16:37.20 | wamty | is it recommended to use wpa_action ??? |
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| 16:38.42 | wamty | is it recommended to use wpa_action ??? |
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| 16:39.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | shrugs |
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| 16:41.48 | mirak | hi |
| 16:42.06 | mirak | is there a way to autogenerate a dkms.conf file for a kernel tree ? |
| 16:43.44 | anoHito | jelly-home, by the way, running that tcpdump won't take many system resource right ,so i will let it run for some time till i get enough results. |
| 16:43.53 | maligor | as far as I know, debian doesn't use dkms |
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| 16:44.30 | Hydroxide | maligor: correct |
| 16:44.56 | amf | Why does X now require me to issue "xhost +" in X (and not from just export DISPLAY)? And how do I get around this when I can't physically be at the machine? |
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| 16:45.20 | abrotman | !mit-magic-cookie |
| 16:45.20 | dpkg | a key that a client application is required to possess in order to use your X11 display. Running xhost + removes this requirement which is why you should never use xhost (ask me about <xhost>). The xauth utility is in the package xbase-clients (etch) or xauth (lenny) and is used to manipulate the mit-magic-cookie; ask me about <mit-magic-cookie export>. For other, easier ways of running apps as another user, ask me about <root x>. |
| 16:45.22 | abrotman | maybe ? |
| 16:45.25 | bluejeans | mirak, .. i jsut saw you asked thi sin the ubuntu channel... had a good chuckle. (i'm watching to see if anyone there will attempt an answer..) |
| 16:45.30 | Eulex | amf, NEVER run xhost +. EVER. |
| 16:46.05 | mirak | bluejeans: well I found some script here http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15043784/make-dkms.sh I didn't tried it yet |
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| 16:46.14 | Eulex | amf, also, what's the situation where you had that as solution? |
| 16:46.28 | mirak | bluejeans: that's for v4l-dvb there is like 220 modules |
| 16:46.33 | maligor | Eulex, you forgot ABSOLUTELY |
| 16:46.42 | Eulex | maligor, I sure did |
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| 16:48.57 | wamty | yay all works now :) |
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| 16:49.38 | jelly-home | just ran xhost +. So there! |
| 16:49.58 | stew | jelly-home: what is your ip address? |
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| 16:50.34 | Eulex | if I ever was stuck in a situation where I absolutely had to run xhost +, I would stick it in a script, which first ran xhost +, then the command I wanted to run, then xhost - |
| 16:50.46 | jelly-home | stew: more important question is, does my X server have a tcp socket listening. |
| 16:51.14 | bluejeans | mirak, you're right... it does seem to be for Debian... but do you know what version? can you find a date? ... my guess would be that this is an outdated make script for an older versionm |
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| 16:51.22 | jelly-home | oh noes, all the local processes on this laptop can now sniff my keyboard! |
| 16:51.27 | jelly-home | horror |
| 16:51.37 | fooblargh | set his DisplaySize correctly and his .Xdefaults to Xft.dpi: 120.0 |
| 16:51.39 | fooblargh | but i still have monsterfonts |
| 16:51.50 | fooblargh | jelly-home, Gryflhase: help? |
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| 16:52.12 | stew | would not want to sniff his keyboard, it's probably nasty |
| 16:52.41 | Eulex | stuck a process on jelly-home's computer, unfortunately it's not running as jelly-home's user... but with him running xhost +, that problem has been alleviated! |
| 16:52.54 | jelly-home | Eulex: have fun doing that |
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| 16:53.17 | jelly-home | Eulex: if I get a nasty via the browser, it'll run as user jelly anyway |
| 16:53.35 | Eulex | true |
| 16:55.13 | fooblargh | !dpi |
| 16:55.13 | dpkg | hmm... dpi is your Dots Per Inch setting, which affects the size of your fonts. Remove any explicit DPI settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc or your display manager's configuration file, and X should autodetect your DPI. If not, add DisplaySize Width_in_milimeters Height_in_millimeters to Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. |
| 16:55.24 | jelly-home | fooblargh: no clue; care to pastebin your xdpyinfo output, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 16:55.33 | fooblargh | jelly-home, sure, sec |
| 16:55.49 | mirak | bluejeans: yes but I can adapt it I guess |
| 16:56.26 | jelly-home | thinks debian could have a pastebinxorgstuff app/shortcut |
| 16:56.49 | abrotman | judd: info pastebinit --release lenny |
| 16:56.50 | judd | abrotman: pastebinit (misc): is optional; Version: 0.10-2; Size: 9.0k; Installed: 88k -- command-line pastebin client |
| 16:57.48 | fooblargh | jelly-home, http://rafb.net/p/LLkHXs98.html |
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| 16:58.10 | bluejeans | mirak, note: this was actually made for ubuntu, not debian, ( the dev's contact into was in the make.sh @ an ubuntu addy..) so maybe this means that it is an exclusive ubuntu thing?) |
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| 16:58.48 | monkey_d_luffy | Not really debian but... How do I set the refresh rate in htop? |
| 16:58.48 | fooblargh | jelly-home, http://rafb.net/p/tYhGpf81.html |
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| 16:59.14 | fooblargh | jelly-home, and http://rafb.net/p/COsNRb58.html |
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| 16:59.40 | cahoot | dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (160x90 millimeters) really? |
| 16:59.41 | skath | is there a way to see or alter which shell is used to parse commands in my crontab? I'm trying to get it to use some bash builtins |
| 16:59.57 | jelly-home | heh, I see you've gone overboard with that |
| 17:00.17 | fooblargh | cahoot, it's 895 & 500 |
| 17:00.19 | fooblargh | or should be |
| 17:00.23 | jelly-home | cahoot: 300 dpi is a good res... for early laser printers |
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| 17:00.26 | \amethyst | skath: SHELL=/bin/sh at the top of the crontab |
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| 17:00.32 | \amethyst | skath: err, SHELL=/bin/bash |
| 17:00.49 | skath | perfect, thanks \amethyst |
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| 17:01.01 | alnr | what are options in debian for working with a collection of .gz files as normal. I am thinking of something at the filesystem in userspace level eg compfused or fusecompress or libferris, where i could just uncompress a bunch of .gz to the fs and be able to access as normal files. |
| 17:01.33 | jpinx | alnr: would squashfs suit you? |
| 17:01.44 | jelly-home | fooblargh: 40"? |
| 17:01.49 | fooblargh | jelly-home, aye |
| 17:01.53 | alnr | jpinx: i think so, if its user space (eg fuse) |
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| 17:02.24 | fooblargh | thought the display told the gfx card about this via hdmi/dvi anyway... |
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| 17:02.45 | jelly-home | fooblargh: then you really have a rather low dpi. 55dpi or so |
| 17:02.57 | fooblargh | well, how do i change it? |
| 17:03.06 | fooblargh | the .Xdefaults value did not work |
| 17:03.17 | fooblargh | Xft.dpi: 120.0 |
| 17:03.54 | jelly-home | fooblargh: add those explicit settings in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc :-) |
| 17:04.30 | jelly-home | fooblargh: that's the dirty way |
| 17:06.06 | jpinx | !squashfs |
| 17:06.06 | dpkg | squashfs is, like, a compressed read-only filesystem for Linux. Squashfs is intended for general read-only filesystem use, for archival use (i.e. in cases where a .tar.gz file may be used), and in constrained block device/memory systems (e.g. embedded systems) where low overhead is needed. The filesystem is currently stable, and has been tested on PowerPC, i586, Sparc and ARM architectures. Merged into mainline kernel, available in 2.6.29 and later. |
| 17:06.16 | jpinx | alnr: ^^ |
| 17:06.34 | fooblargh | jelly-home, ok, i will look at the manpage for that file |
| 17:06.35 | fooblargh | thanks |
| 17:09.19 | jelly-home | fooblargh: I think that doesn't work any more, though. You could fake the DisplaySize to, say, 508 286 |
| 17:09.36 | jelly-home | that's 1920x1080 with 96dpi |
| 17:09.45 | Yasuo | yre there knows problems with debian5 and vmware? |
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| 17:10.20 | Yasuo | teh installer hangs at installing grub to hd0 |
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| 17:11.33 | alnr | jpinx: thanks. i'll have to see ifi get squashfs builtin in my env (some vpn) |
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| 17:13.15 | fooblargh | jelly-home, i need to install xinit so i get a xserverrc in the first place |
| 17:13.23 | fooblargh | so i assume it does not work any more, yah |
| 17:13.48 | jelly-home | fooblargh: I mean, X server seems not to have the -dpi option any more |
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| 17:14.51 | fooblargh | jelly-home, hmmk |
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| 17:15.10 | fooblargh | jelly-home, fwiw, xrandr --dpi is useless, as well |
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| 17:22.18 | kelt_ | how can I tell who has logged in the system and what time they did it? |
| 17:22.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, etch? |
| 17:22.38 | petemc | kelt_: last |
| 17:22.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | kelt_, last |
| 17:22.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | bah |
| 17:22.46 | petemc | :) |
| 17:23.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | also lastlog |
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| 17:23.55 | petemc | and last -f /var/log/wtmp.1 for last month |
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| 17:24.54 | fooblargh | CutMeOwnThroat, sid |
| 17:25.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 17:25.13 | tty | so why are lenny packaged always several versions behind'? |
| 17:25.30 | xand | because they're stable. |
| 17:25.36 | path_ | because lenny is known as stable? |
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| 17:25.45 | stew | tty: because lenny was frozen last july |
| 17:25.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, ok, I was wrong :) old xorgs didn't support a lot of the xrandr stuff |
| 17:25.55 | tty | oh mmnhg |
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| 17:26.19 | tty | are those distros that run the latest packages, such as gentoo, inherently unstable? |
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| 17:26.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | tty, doesn't that question answer itself? |
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| 17:27.03 | tty | CutMeOwnThroat: it poses a philosophical argument! |
| 17:27.22 | Eulex | less well-tested code |
| 17:27.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean... stable == tested under so many different conditions that you won't experience problems with your specific conditions |
| 17:27.33 | pickcoder | tty: the stability is determined by the stability of the software installed |
| 17:27.42 | raz0 | tty, it doesn't help that everything is compiled from source either |
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| 17:27.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you only get that after quite some time and when lots of people have "trodden the path" |
| 17:28.07 | tty | alright.. im beggining to understand |
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| 17:28.44 | stew | tty: also note that when debian labes a release as 'stable' or 'unstable', it means 'not changing' or 'changin', not necessarily 'not crashing' vs 'crashing' |
| 17:28.51 | stew | ^labes^labels |
| 17:28.53 | fooblargh | CutMeOwnThroat, i.e. you don't know, either? |
| 17:29.26 | stew | though, usually the 'not crashing' part is a side-benefit of the 'not changing' |
| 17:29.42 | tty | i see. |
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| 17:30.02 | tty | that makes sense. the price you pay for stability is a little older software |
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| 17:30.23 | stew | tty: yes, and see /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 17:32.59 | tty | bpo is backports. how interesting |
| 17:33.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, no, but it's suspicious that xrandr doesn't work |
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| 17:33.25 | cahoot | nvidia? |
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| 17:33.34 | tty | are most other stable distros also "not changing" ? |
| 17:33.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh, it's also suspicious that it doesn't work for me anymore, now that I try |
| 17:33.49 | fooblargh | cahoot, yes, nvidia with binary blob crap |
| 17:33.49 | tty | or is this a debian and derivatives only feature |
| 17:33.57 | kelt_ | thanks |
| 17:33.59 | Raylz | hi, im having strange problems |
| 17:34.05 | Raylz | when i start my jabber server (ejabberd) no error message is displayed |
| 17:34.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | tty, I guess you have to ask them :) |
| 17:34.13 | cahoot | fooblargh: I'd try disable the automagic DPI setting |
| 17:34.18 | Raylz | but it doesnt work |
| 17:34.24 | tty | hjmm |
| 17:34.31 | kelt_ | is there a way to erase lastlog? I mean, what kind of audit protection is there for it? |
| 17:34.34 | cahoot | fooblargh: UseEDID or such |
| 17:34.42 | Raylz | if i type in /etc/init.d/ejabber.d restart it says that the server isnt started |
| 17:34.53 | pickcoder | tty: most of the other distros I've used have a release candidate and a stable release too |
| 17:34.57 | module000 | Raylz: check errorlog |
| 17:35.01 | pickcoder | their scope of "stable release" is a bit more broad |
| 17:35.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | kelt_, it's just the wtmp logfile you were already pointed to |
| 17:35.21 | pickcoder | I've seen major kernel updates to kernels that were far older than Debian's current stable |
| 17:35.24 | tty | pickcoder: have you been using gentoo? any problems? |
| 17:35.31 | pickcoder | no Gentoo here |
| 17:35.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | kelt_, because of it's weird format it's not so easy to remove single entries, but it's of course trivial to delete the whole file |
| 17:35.46 | pickcoder | I have better things to do than build every tool I download |
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| 17:35.53 | tty | pickcoder: how dare you |
| 17:35.54 | tty | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.00 | tty | just kidding. |
| 17:36.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder, like what?! |
| 17:36.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 17:36.25 | tty | hmm gentoo is definitely not for people who dont love coding |
| 17:36.45 | tty | you really need indepth compiler knowledge not to mess that up |
| 17:36.50 | pickcoder | tty: I ran slackware for years |
| 17:36.57 | fooblargh | CutMeOwnThroat, i can't find useedid anywhere in debian |
| 17:37.05 | cinch | i hate pulseaudio, its harder to setup than installing gentoo -.- |
| 17:37.20 | pickcoder | I still run other distros, but my preferred server setup is Debian |
| 17:37.30 | pickcoder | it "just works" 99.9% of the time |
| 17:37.42 | tty | "just works" sounds goods. |
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| 17:37.46 | pickcoder | no downtime, apart from kernel updates |
| 17:37.59 | tty | oh, that's always good. |
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| 17:38.58 | pickcoder | Though one Sarge->Etch dist-upgrade left a system without an installed kernel |
| 17:39.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder, well, not true... debian can have the same hardware problems as anyone |
| 17:39.03 | pickcoder | that was fun |
| 17:39.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 17:39.09 | cahoot | fooblargh: NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (304, 304); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config - from you Xorg.0.log |
| 17:39.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, that sounds like fun |
| 17:39.15 | pickcoder | CutMeOwnThroat: that's true for any Linux distro |
| 17:40.12 | pickcoder | The installer is easy and flexible, apt is sooo much better than yum, and I have no real reason to change yet. |
| 17:40.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | or like in my case, xorg will sometimes crash with the nvidia card... not necessarily implying a reboot, though |
| 17:40.21 | abrotman | except mandriva that cooks CD drives :) |
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| 17:40.38 | pickcoder | cooks? |
| 17:40.41 | pickcoder | overspin? |
| 17:40.48 | thebbxx2000 | is there a channel for evolution mail bugs |
| 17:40.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | awesome laser power? |
| 17:41.03 | abrotman | thebbxx2000: in which distro ? |
| 17:41.04 | cahoot | thebbxx2000: mailing list? |
| 17:41.07 | thebbxx2000 | debian |
| 17:41.25 | abrotman | thebbxx2000: you can try here, or the BTS, or irc.gnome.org |
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| 17:41.59 | fooblargh | cahoot, i don 't set dpi or anything in xorg.vonf |
| 17:42.02 | fooblargh | conf, too |
| 17:42.18 | pickcoder | my next play-time venture will probably be FreeBSD |
| 17:42.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, oh, then you must, I think |
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| 17:42.22 | pickcoder | but that's for another show |
| 17:42.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, I think I had the same, but didn't realize until right now |
| 17:42.30 | fooblargh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.39 | fooblargh | that is from xdpyinfo |
| 17:43.09 | astro48 | so debian is the father of the most used distro today (considering distrowatch) |
| 17:43.09 | pickcoder | I'm still having a tough time getting twp ipv6 setups to talk |
| 17:43.10 | fooblargh | i am upgrading X atm |
| 17:43.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, try Option "DPI" "96x96" in Section "Monitor" (and mind, I haven't really read all you said, coming late) |
| 17:43.16 | astro48 | this debian should be good |
| 17:43.25 | fooblargh | #debian-x tells me the new X server autodetects lying monitors |
| 17:43.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, huge fonts, it was, right? :) |
| 17:43.30 | astro48 | i'll give a try, even it is for desktop use only |
| 17:43.35 | pickcoder | s/twp/two |
| 17:43.38 | fooblargh | CutMeOwnThroat, aye |
| 17:43.54 | valdyn | fooblargh: in this case its entirely up to the nvidia driver, Xorg does not fix that |
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| 17:43.55 | Tenkawa | any of you running lenny on a macbook? |
| 17:44.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | fooblargh, well, try that... can't hurt - start a 2nd X-server with startx -- :1 if you don't want to stop your current one |
| 17:44.11 | bolt | !polls |
| 17:44.11 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 17:44.26 | thebbxx2000 | I have an email signature stored in Evolution that is HTML |
| 17:44.31 | pickcoder | astro48: if you have somewhat dated hardware then odds are it will be supported. Of course there's always exceptions (nvidia, broadcom, etc) |
| 17:44.34 | thebbxx2000 | works great until I close evolution |
| 17:44.35 | Tenkawa | trying to determine how well it works using an mbr instead of a gpt |
| 17:44.38 | thebbxx2000 | when i open it back up |
| 17:44.42 | Tenkawa | since I'd really prefer not to use refit |
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| 17:44.47 | wamty | which version should I nab for a xeon quad core system? |
| 17:44.48 | bolt | !tell Tenkawa about polls |
| 17:44.51 | bolt | !tell Tenkawa about ppc |
| 17:44.53 | thebbxx2000 | and i start a new email, my sig is plain text |
| 17:44.55 | thebbxx2000 | not html |
| 17:44.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tenkawa, probably some of the people in #debian-ppc ? |
| 17:45.04 | Tenkawa | umm.... macbooks' arent ppc |
| 17:45.07 | pickcoder | wamty: how much ram |
| 17:45.08 | Tenkawa | get your etails straight |
| 17:45.11 | Tenkawa | er details |
| 17:45.17 | Tenkawa | macbooks are c2d |
| 17:45.22 | Tenkawa | well c*d |
| 17:45.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 17:45.28 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: macbook, not powerbook .. |
| 17:45.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | okokokok |
| 17:45.36 | Tenkawa | since they had core1's :) |
| 17:45.45 | abrotman | stilloverpricedforwhattheyare |
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| 17:45.51 | wamty | which version should I nab for a xeon quad core system? |
| 17:45.54 | Tenkawa | I still hate efi as the "only" choice |
| 17:46.05 | abrotman | wamty: is it x86_64 or not? |
| 17:46.05 | Tenkawa | abrotman: just using what I have |
| 17:46.07 | Tenkawa | hheheh |
| 17:46.07 | wamty | brand new HP DL360 so probably broadcom |
| 17:46.09 | bolt | I'd still think the people in #debian-ppc would know. they are mac users after all. |
| 17:46.16 | pickcoder | wamty: how much ram [echo echo] |
| 17:46.18 | Tenkawa | bolt: I'll try :) |
| 17:46.20 | abrotman | Tenkawa: that wasn't directed at you specifically |
| 17:46.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, exactly... I wouldn't buy one... so distinction gets a bit... fuzzy |
| 17:46.37 | Tenkawa | abrotman: oh ok.. thought you were kidding with "me" |
| 17:46.38 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 17:46.40 | Tenkawa | been a long time |
| 17:46.42 | Tenkawa | :) |
| 17:46.53 | astro48 | pickcoder: hmm i'll need nvidia drivers... and even it's a desktop, it uses wireless connection, so I might find problems during first install/config, right? |
| 17:47.00 | Tenkawa | bolt: I'm hangin out in debian-amd64 (recommended macbook port) too |
| 17:47.04 | pickcoder | astro48: depends on the chipset |
| 17:47.10 | wamty | abrotman: not sure if 64 bit will really help anyway |
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| 17:47.13 | RUMMY | I have small web server on debian, when I open web site firewax says that "Reported Attack Site!" what I need for repair that problem? |
| 17:47.15 | abrotman | wamty: either i386 or amd64 |
| 17:47.19 | wamty | 4 gig |
| 17:47.20 | wamty | I saw ina google search that amd64 beta3 worked on that system so I will try a few different versions |
| 17:47.24 | fooblargh | CutMeOwnThroat, to install xinit (for startx), i need to upgrade libc6, for which i need to stop my DM, which i can't do until there is an ad, else gf will kill me ;) |
| 17:47.33 | astro48 | pickcoder: can't say now. i'm at work. but later i'll check the stability with my hardware. |
| 17:47.34 | pickcoder | abrotman: almost all of the Xeon quads are 64 |
| 17:47.37 | pickcoder | em64t |
| 17:47.39 | valdyn | RUMMY: is firewax in debian? |
| 17:47.56 | abrotman | pickcoder: new ones .. he didn't say how old it was .. "brand new" doesn't help much |
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| 17:48.08 | RUMMY | I use firefox on windows xp |
| 17:48.15 | pickcoder | wamty: well the problem is the multi-core functionality may not work with the 686 smp kernel |
| 17:48.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh... I wonder why a program crashing on the only thing it does wasn't a release critical bug |
| 17:48.24 | pickcoder | you may HAVE to go with amd64 to see more than one core |
| 17:48.45 | valdyn | RUMMY: its the site that is reported according to firewax, so fix your firewax, debian cant do that |
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| 17:48.57 | pickcoder | the previous Xeon dual-core multi-chip server I built needed the em64t to show both cores |
| 17:49.01 | wamty | hmmmm |
| 17:49.08 | valdyn | RUMMY: or fix your site not to be reported as attack site, thats also not debian |
| 17:49.13 | pickcoder | I didn't even bother looking on this last quad-core setup if 686 would show all the cores |
| 17:49.37 | wamty | pickcoder: ARE YOU SURE? |
| 17:49.38 | valdyn | RUMMY: debian does not control who or which attack sites are reported |
| 17:49.42 | RUMMY | with which tools I need check web space? |
| 17:49.45 | wamty | what has that got to do with anything |
| 17:49.48 | Tenkawa | has been quite happy ith his q6600 debian setup |
| 17:49.51 | pickcoder | wamty: I installed 686-smp and it showed one core |
| 17:49.55 | pickcoder | I'm more than positive |
| 17:50.04 | wamty | what kind of hit is there for primary vs logical partitions |
| 17:50.08 | pickcoder | I'm not sure about the quads though |
| 17:50.08 | abrotman | no such thing as 686-smp in etch or lenny |
| 17:50.16 | abrotman | erm .. in lenny |
| 17:50.22 | pickcoder | abrotman: this was etch |
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| 17:50.38 | wamty | I figure I can put /usr, /var/www/log, and swap on logical partitions |
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| 17:50.51 | valdyn | wamty: theres no hit at all |
| 17:50.52 | abrotman | pickcoder: oh wait .. not in etch either .. all the same in etch + |
| 17:50.57 | pickcoder | huh? |
| 17:51.12 | abrotman | dpkg: info linux-image-2.6-686-smp etch |
| 17:51.38 | dpkg | linux-image-2.6-686-smp: (Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 SMP - transition package), section admin, is extra. Version: 2.6.18+6etch3 (etch), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
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| 17:51.56 | abrotman | pickcoder: transitional package only |
| 17:51.57 | wamty | then why do people always recommend using primary partitions????? |
| 17:52.20 | valdyn | wamty: they dont know what they are talking about? |
| 17:52.22 | pickcoder | wamty: because they are easier to manipulate |
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| 17:52.51 | abrotman | why do people use five question marks?!?!? |
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| 17:53.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | !!!! |
| 17:53.30 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
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| 17:54.22 | wamty | So? |
| 17:54.36 | wamty | hrm, HP supports debian huh |
| 17:54.51 | pickcoder | wamty: how much RAM |
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| 17:54.59 | wamty | 4 gig! |
| 17:55.02 | pickcoder | ok |
| 17:55.09 | pickcoder | grab the 686 and see if all the cores show up |
| 17:55.18 | pickcoder | if they don't you'll need to grab the amd64 install image |
| 17:55.38 | wamty | according to this they support x86 and amd64 |
| 17:55.43 | pickcoder | amd64 is overkill for 4GB |
| 17:55.45 | wamty | o is smartstart the way to get this installed???? |
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| 17:55.56 | jelly-home | !proliant |
| 17:55.56 | dpkg | proliant is probably utilities for hp proliant servers packaged for etch hide behind this form http://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=T8570AAE; their dependencies are not complete, also install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, or http://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=T8569AAE for amd64 |
| 17:56.24 | jelly-home | wamty: you can install lenny the normal way, and add their tools on top |
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| 17:58.57 | wamty | hmmmm |
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| 18:00.21 | wamty | I'll go for debian amd64 |
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| 18:01.13 | Tenkawa | DOH |
| 18:01.22 | Tenkawa | 5.0.1 got released? |
| 18:01.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | it did? |
| 18:01.39 | Tenkawa | didnt see it listed on the website last night when I got the cds |
| 18:01.40 | jelly-home | Tenkawa: no, the topic LIES |
| 18:01.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's a 5.0.1? |
| 18:01.47 | Tenkawa | jelly-home: OH... ok |
| 18:01.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh |
| 18:01.49 | Tenkawa | wheew |
| 18:01.53 | jelly-home | :-) |
| 18:01.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's people who read topics? |
| 18:01.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | eww |
| 18:02.00 | Tenkawa | I always do |
| 18:02.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tenkawa, weird person! |
| 18:02.21 | jelly-home | Tenkawa: cd images are a bit late... who needs those anyway! |
| 18:02.23 | Tenkawa | CutMeOwnThroat: heh.. |
| 18:02.31 | Tenkawa | jelly-home: I do when I build offline |
| 18:02.33 | Tenkawa | heh |
| 18:02.58 | Tenkawa | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm an irc ancient user |
| 18:03.33 | pickcoder | Tenkawa: how long? |
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| 18:03.44 | Tenkawa | pickcoder: 16 years or so |
| 18:03.56 | pickcoder | me too, about. |
| 18:04.04 | Tenkawa | pickcoder: I use to run one of the servers here back when it was still linpeople |
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| 18:04.34 | Tenkawa | before freenode.... (tries to remember all of the old network names) |
| 18:04.43 | Tenkawa | openprojects |
| 18:04.44 | Tenkawa | etc |
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| 18:05.00 | Tenkawa | had a newnet hub server for a while back in the late 90's |
| 18:05.04 | Tenkawa | that was "interesting" |
| 18:05.08 | KRF | hey there. is there a way to list all installed packages that are not available via the repository? i am trying to find old/orphaned packages |
| 18:05.08 | pickcoder | newnet |
| 18:05.09 | pickcoder | heh |
| 18:05.24 | pickcoder | I think that was network I oper'd for a month or so on |
| 18:05.31 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 18:05.32 | pickcoder | and moved on fairly quickly |
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| 18:05.44 | pickcoder | they were begging for help |
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| 18:05.55 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 18:05.59 | Tenkawa | I remembr those days |
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| 18:06.36 | Tenkawa | hmm |
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| 18:06.59 | Tenkawa | this libc6 update really hurts when your provider's vz host won't upgrade |
| 18:07.05 | Tenkawa | their kernel |
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| 18:07.37 | dirkson | Hallo all. My Pidgin nor my Firefox particularly enjoy displaying kanji (Japanese pictographs) although they display most other characters well. Anyone know offhand what package I'd need to install? |
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| 18:17.37 | wamty | web is in /var, logs are also in var |
| 18:17.43 | wamty | where is mysql stored |
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| 18:17.47 | wamty | usr or var |
| 18:17.47 | wamty | ? |
| 18:18.12 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.14 | Tenkawa | wamty: what part? |
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| 18:18.31 | pickcoder | all variable data is stored in /var/ |
| 18:18.52 | wamty | okay, so I need a beefy var |
| 18:18.56 | wamty | but perhaps a smaller /var/log |
| 18:19.00 | wamty | to keep it from filling up var |
| 18:19.05 | wamty | and a smaller /var/www/log |
| 18:19.09 | wamty | and this time I need to set up a good log rotation |
| 18:19.11 | wamty | :/ |
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| 18:19.49 | moocow | *hmmm* |
| 18:20.02 | jelly-home | wamty: if you're not sure about the size of your filesystems, maybe you should use lvm and resize when needed |
| 18:20.15 | moocow | is there a way to tell via lspci or something if there are any pcie slots on a particlar mobo from the command lien? |
| 18:20.18 | wamty | so how about / - 10, /usr - 50, /var - 150, /var/www/log - 20, /home - 50, /var/log - 10, and swap whats left, around 4gig |
| 18:20.25 | wamty | Should I make a seperate /tmp you think? |
| 18:21.02 | grirgz | do you use LVM ? |
| 18:21.12 | jelly-home | wamty: a) separate / and /usr are overkill these days (and 50 GB for /usr is... WAY too much) |
| 18:21.25 | jelly-home | wamty: b) I'd stuck all that into one /var |
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| 18:22.13 | jelly-home | wamty: so, /, (swap), /var, /home |
| 18:22.17 | barnum | i do like 4G for /usr and thats been more than enough |
| 18:22.39 | wamty | what do you think, maybe 500 meg /tmp? |
| 18:22.58 | barnum | depends multiuser system i always make /tmp smaller than an ISO |
| 18:23.08 | barnum | personal boxes i like it bigger |
| 18:23.14 | wamty | lvm scares me, this is already hardware raid 10 |
| 18:23.24 | barnum | dont be scared of lvm :) |
| 18:23.27 | enouf | grep TMPTIME /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:23.50 | enouf | TMPTIME=365 O_o |
| 18:23.54 | jelly-home | grirgz: ask your real question |
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| 18:24.02 | enouf | plenty of time to sort files :-P |
| 18:24.14 | wamty | jelly-home, what do u think? |
| 18:24.27 | wamty | jelly-home, I've had /usr fill up due to huge web logs |
| 18:24.38 | wamty | I prefer not to have the whole box unusable for something that stupid |
| 18:24.46 | jelly-home | wamty: logs shouldn't go in /usr |
| 18:24.53 | enouf | yeah, really |
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| 18:25.07 | wamty | I mean /var |
| 18:25.32 | wamty | jelly-home, I've had /var fill up due to huge web logs |
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| 18:25.50 | jelly-home | wamty: filling up /var doesn't make my systems unusable |
| 18:25.50 | wamty | I really like the swap file idea |
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| 18:26.07 | barnum | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.11 | barnum | make sure everything logs to /var/log |
| 18:26.15 | barnum | and issues avoided :) |
| 18:26.18 | liable | hmm, tar is failing with no space left, but i have heaps of space. |
| 18:26.20 | jelly-home | wamty: also, we have monitoring of filesystem usage |
| 18:26.34 | jelly-home | liable: df -i ? |
| 18:27.11 | liable | jelly-home: yeah, all good |
| 18:27.14 | wamty | my web server logs much more then 100MB an hour |
| 18:27.20 | liable | is scratching head |
| 18:27.46 | jelly-home | wamty: how much back do you need to keep? |
| 18:27.47 | abrotman | steals all the enter keys |
| 18:27.49 | pickcoder | wamty: then you should probably be using a remote log service instead of syslog |
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| 18:28.15 | jelly-home | or set up proper rotation |
| 18:28.21 | moocow | or stopy logging every single sql query |
| 18:28.23 | moocow | *cough* |
| 18:28.25 | moocow | :) |
| 18:28.34 | wamty | according to an ancient kernel mailing list thread i read maybe 10 years ago, swap files are just as efficient as swap partitions |
| 18:28.47 | pickcoder | wamty: only on newly created file systems |
| 18:28.56 | pickcoder | so make them the proper size to start with |
| 18:29.01 | grirgz | jelly-home: this was my real question =) (i just wanted to suggest wamty to use lvm) |
| 18:29.37 | jelly-home | grirgz: oh, already done that :-) |
| 18:29.49 | pickcoder | and I believe that is only true since the 2.6 kernel |
| 18:29.56 | Nikke | hmm, killall screen doesnt work for me :O |
| 18:30.10 | Nikke | im used to use that from archlinux to kill a screen |
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| 18:32.29 | nick4 | Hi. I would like to take a look at the Chromium browser, even it's in an early stage. I saw that there are Ubuntu packages but none works for me so I am looking for a Squeeze package. Problem is I am getting discouraging results from my web searches. Does anyone know where I can find one? |
| 18:33.00 | merlinco1ey | nick4: you could make one! |
| 18:33.07 | wamty | perhaps my memory is wrong, but in 2.6 swap files/partitions are about the same: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/7/326 |
| 18:33.57 | nick4 | merlinco1ey I'd like to avoid that :) After I switched to Debian from Slackware I want to avoid compiling if possible |
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| 18:34.12 | merlinco1ey | nick4: then you'll have to wait until someone else does it |
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| 18:34.16 | nick4 | yeah |
| 18:34.18 | wamty | pickcoder ? |
| 18:34.29 | nick4 | I guess there isn't any right now. Ok. thanks :) |
| 18:34.39 | merlinco1ey | nick4: did you check backports? |
| 18:34.48 | nick4 | no, I have Squeeze |
| 18:34.54 | nick4 | hm, a link please |
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| 18:35.28 | merlinco1ey | nick4: http://www.google.com/search?q=backports |
| 18:35.40 | azeem | merlinco1ey: eh, are you sure chromium is even in Debian? |
| 18:35.48 | azeem | if not, it doesn't make sense to check backports |
| 18:35.59 | nick4 | eh not like that merlinco1ey :D |
| 18:36.01 | module000 | it seems straightforward to build it also... http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructions |
| 18:36.25 | merlinco1ey | azeem: I didn't bother checking becuase I don't care, nick4 is the one who wants it, he should check |
| 18:36.26 | nick4 | ohhhhhhh |
| 18:36.41 | merlinco1ey | azeem: I'm just giving him the tools to look into things further in the future when he wants something |
| 18:36.57 | azeem | merlinco1ey: there's no backports for squeere |
| 18:37.00 | azeem | squeeze |
| 18:37.04 | merlinco1ey | however, it is REALLY easy to make a debian package from source |
| 18:37.07 | merlinco1ey | REDICULOUSLY easy |
| 18:37.10 | wamty | perhaps my memory is wrong, but in 2.6 swap files/partitions are about the same: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/7/326 |
| 18:37.14 | merlinco1ey | which is why I suggested that at first |
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| 18:37.20 | merlinco1ey | wamty: you are a retarded bot |
| 18:37.41 | azeem | merlinco1ey: please don't insult people |
| 18:37.52 | wamty | pickcoder: i thought this was the case in 2.4 also, but it looks like that's not quite so |
| 18:38.01 | merlinco1ey | azeem: I'm not insulting him |
| 18:38.05 | wamty | pickcoder: that would certainly keep the performance up, but i wonder if it does anything to lock the file so you can't screw yourself up |
| 18:38.05 | merlinco1ey | !insult azeem |
| 18:38.06 | dpkg | azeem is nothing but a mammering petrification of ruttish Stimpy-drool |
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| 18:38.46 | upIRC | nice! |
| 18:39.19 | upIRC | isn't that off topic? |
| 18:39.28 | merlinco1ey | yeah I'll go back to -offtopic >_> |
| 18:40.28 | upIRC | !einstein |
| 18:40.28 | dpkg | just because you're albert einstein doesn't mean you drink on the house or you're the inventor of the white guy fro |
| 18:40.59 | merlinco1ey | lol nice upIRC |
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| 18:43.39 | mphill | i would like to build nas that boots from a usb stick. Would it be better to install via the installer CD, use ext2 w/o swap or use an image from the debian live site? |
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| 18:44.31 | xororand | mphill: if the usb stick is large enough, you can install it as if it was a hard drive |
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| 18:44.45 | xororand | you have to create a partition table for that |
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| 18:45.33 | mphill | xororand: its gb, more than enough. My primary concern is that USB have a finite life with r/w's. You think ext2 (because of no journaling)? |
| 18:45.56 | mphill | s/gb/4 gb |
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| 18:46.17 | xororand | mphill: that's a good question. ext2 is probably fine if you have a UPS. i wouldn't use a non-journaling fs otherwise though |
| 18:46.46 | xororand | what you can do, if you don't care much about the logs, is using a ramdisk for /var/log |
| 18:46.55 | xororand | and maybe copy them over to the stick once or twice a day |
| 18:46.58 | justin | or could just just mount / ro |
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| 18:47.10 | mphill | it will be on ups. Ah yes, I will use ramlog for sure. |
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| 18:47.55 | mphill | I basically never want it to hit the thumbdrive, so i am going to install no swap and hope 2 gb is enough. |
| 18:49.03 | mmind | is network booting an option? |
| 18:49.25 | sepski | mphill, you might want to look at the debian-router setup as well. you can use that as a nas if you want to. a bit outdated compared to lenny, but you should get it running with some tinkering., i run that on 2 routers using 1G flash cards |
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| 18:50.12 | macman_ | guys whats a good app to modiy iso's .. iso master sucks |
| 18:50.45 | mphill | mmind: I rather not, then I have to maintain another box. My goal is low power too, I am using an intel atom which I will probably end up regretting. |
| 18:50.56 | wamty | 4 gig sound like a good swapfile size? |
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| 18:51.02 | wamty | maybe just start with 2 gig? |
| 18:51.05 | mphill | macman_: you can mount the iso and edit it directly using -o loop |
| 18:51.17 | abrotman | wamty: depends on what the system does .. for all we know 16GB swap wouldn't be enough |
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| 18:51.31 | macman_ | hmm.. |
| 18:51.32 | space_cadet | Debian rocks |
| 18:51.39 | space_cadet | I love my debian, i sleep with it |
| 18:51.40 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | 16 GB SWAP???? : o |
| 18:51.42 | merlinco1ey | space_cadet: are you smoking them? |
| 18:51.45 | wamty | ysql, php, apache2, bind, |
| 18:51.54 | abrotman | wamty: that's still not helpful |
| 18:51.56 | space_cadet | merlinco1ey, i didnt know you could do that |
| 18:52.03 | merlinco1ey | space_cadet: debian rocks are the best, man |
| 18:52.14 | space_cadet | merlinco1ey, have you tried before? |
| 18:52.16 | wamty | webserver |
| 18:52.26 | merlinco1ey | space_cadet: No, no, I only sold debian rocks |
| 18:52.32 | abrotman | thinks wamty doesn't understand the question ... |
| 18:52.44 | space_cadet | merlinco1ey, how much did you make |
| 18:52.49 | wamty | sorry english is not my primary lang |
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| 18:53.17 | mphill | wamty: how much physical ram do you have, and how did you is your hard drive? |
| 18:53.17 | merlinco1ey | space_cadet: 5 Murdocks and six RMSes |
| 18:53.46 | abrotman | wamty: do you have a system you'll be migrating from? |
| 18:54.10 | merlinco1ey | I've heard you want to double the ram size for swap, in the old days. Now you can probably get away with just matching it if you have like 4-8 gigs |
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| 18:54.38 | space_cadet | wamty, what is your language ? |
| 18:54.49 | justin | used to run with no swap when I had 384M of ram |
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| 18:55.11 | justin | now FF uses that much ram :-X |
| 18:55.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | sh4d3sl4y3r_, well... 2XRAM normally - but really depends - you might have a lot of inactive big processes |
| 18:55.27 | abrotman | justin: with one tab :( |
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| 18:56.01 | phobik | !simple-cdd |
| 18:56.01 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD |
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| 18:56.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | justin, hehe, too true - but it gets freed regularly when it crashes :-P |
| 18:57.33 | space_cadet | Once i got ipw2200.fw working everything was lovely |
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| 18:57.59 | tech13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.16 | merlinco1ey | !tell tech13 about lennyr1 |
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| 18:58.59 | tech13 | merlinco1ey, thank you. |
| 18:59.19 | merlinco1ey | tech13: you're welcome |
| 18:59.24 | tech13 | noticed http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/bt-cd/ doesn't have the recent revision. Is it just a sync issue? |
| 18:59.38 | space_cadet | Gotta love debian |
| 18:59.49 | space_cadet | How come the maker doesnt irc |
| 18:59.56 | space_cadet | I'd like to congratulate him |
| 18:59.59 | space_cadet | And his wife |
| 19:00.06 | merlinco1ey | space_cadet: Ian Murdock works for Sun now |
| 19:00.26 | space_cadet | So he doesnt help in the project anymore? |
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| 19:00.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | wasn't a very good stable when it needs an r1 so quickly :-/ |
| 19:01.06 | space_cadet | merlinco1ey, |
| 19:01.15 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: maybe look at what was fixed before saying that |
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| 19:02.34 | mphill | CutMeOwnThroat: two months and a micro release doesn't indicate to me poor quality of the release. |
| 19:02.40 | space_cadet | merlinco1ey, |
| 19:02.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | wget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ChangeLog -O - |wc -l |
| 19:02.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | 12383 |
| 19:02.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | eww |
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| 19:03.05 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: brilliat, you should be a professional analyst |
| 19:03.12 | orioni_ | is there a tool/script that can do the forward to reverse conversion ? |
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| 19:03.21 | orioni_ | i haev to convert sth like 39 zones tomorrow adding the PTR records |
| 19:03.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | valdyn, I was just saying that "looking at the changes" is no mean task |
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| 19:03.35 | space_cadet | So how long will this version last |
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| 19:03.41 | space_cadet | Will i have to update again? |
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| 19:04.21 | valdyn | space_cadet: you are supposed to update very often due to security updates |
| 19:04.34 | valdyn | space_cadet: this micro release is not very different to that |
| 19:04.50 | valdyn | space_cadet: its just a bunch of those fixes at once |
| 19:05.02 | space_cadet | ah |
| 19:05.11 | justin | CutMeOwnThroat: http://debian.org/News/2009/20090411 |
| 19:05.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | justin, already looking at it |
| 19:05.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | but thx |
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| 19:06.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it *is* a lot of stuff |
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| 19:06.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | still better than delaying the release even further |
| 19:06.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | I bet |
| 19:07.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess the problem was the sh...nice load of new packages coming in |
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| 19:08.12 | space_cadet | Wow, i never knew Murdok was german |
| 19:08.24 | tell_000 | hi, i have a problem, my machine won't boot after i shut it down. it says it has no resume device, i labeled it, but i created a new one before rebooting, now uswsusp or how the crap is called means it cant find a resume device or so. its a workstation and i definiteky dont need it. how to disable it? is there a kernel parameter like noresume or so? it cant find /root filesystem which is odd, i checked with a rescue cd and all is fine. |
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| 19:10.43 | valdyn | tell_000: not finding a resume image is not a fatal error |
| 19:10.48 | tell_000 | noresume didnt help much, it skips uswsusp things, but it says: mounting root fs, ... etc etc, and then mounting /dev/root on /root failed: no such device |
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| 19:10.57 | szymon_g | hi |
| 19:11.11 | valdyn | tell_000: so theres your error, it has nothing to do with not finding a resume image |
| 19:11.13 | tell_000 | valdyn, yes i see now, i guessed noresume and it worked, but still cant find root device |
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| 19:11.42 | tell_000 | it worked all fine for a few reboots 3 days before... now its broken |
| 19:12.05 | valdyn | tell_000: get the real complete error, its probably there |
| 19:12.10 | szymon_g | i've installed libxine1-all-plugins from debian-multimedia, i also installed amarok-engine-xine but amarok still complain that it cannot play mp3's. any idea what i could sc*ew up? |
| 19:12.14 | valdyn | tell_000: figure out if you changed the kernel in those days |
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| 19:12.25 | szymon_g | (lenny x86_64) |
| 19:12.33 | tell_000 | valdyn, no i didnt change kernel, just lenny default |
| 19:12.43 | macman_ | guys i don't know if this is a noob question or not .. can i create a iso from the command line and specify how many megabytes or gigs it has .. basically creating a blank image ? |
| 19:12.48 | valdyn | szymon_g: install libmad0 |
| 19:12.54 | tell_000 | so the error is what i said.... cand find /dev7root |
| 19:13.26 | szymon_g | valdyn: according to aptitude, it is already installed |
| 19:13.27 | valdyn | macman_: yes you can, man genisoimage or man mkisofs |
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| 19:13.41 | szymon_g | i A libmad0 |
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| 19:14.24 | tell_000 | i wonder how a reboot can kill my system...... |
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| 19:14.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | /dev/root?! |
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| 19:14.53 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: ubuntu thing? |
| 19:14.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's that supposed to be |
| 19:15.03 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: gentoo uses that too iirc |
| 19:15.07 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: a symlink |
| 19:15.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, explains why I've never seen it |
| 19:15.15 | szymon_g | valdyn: its on debian too |
| 19:15.20 | szymon_g | (/dev/root i mean) |
| 19:15.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | not on my debian |
| 19:15.48 | valdyn | its on fresh lenny installs |
| 19:16.00 | szymon_g | its a symlink to sda2 (on my box) |
| 19:16.03 | valdyn | its not on old installs i guess, not on my sid, which is ancient |
| 19:16.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | right |
| 19:16.14 | valdyn | ( up to date sid, which was installed many years ago ) |
| 19:16.19 | tell_000 | a symlink to something what udev thinks it should be i guess |
| 19:16.38 | valdyn | no, not udev |
| 19:16.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, perhaps that symlink changed or something |
| 19:16.53 | valdyn | tell_000: try the actual device instead |
| 19:16.57 | tell_000 | so, wtf is /dev/root? for me its not a symlink when i boot and end up in busybox |
| 19:17.09 | valdyn | tell_000: you can edit the grub boot menu and you can look around from busybox |
| 19:17.12 | tell_000 | valdyn, yeah, and what is the actual device :)) |
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| 19:17.25 | tell_000 | i have lilo for some very good reasons :) |
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| 19:17.45 | valdyn | tell_000: then dig out your lilo boot disk |
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| 19:17.56 | derek_ | is anyone else having problems with the new xorg on lenny |
| 19:18.13 | szymon_g | derek_: what kind of problems? |
| 19:18.18 | tell_000 | yes, but only if my system boots up again someday, argh |
| 19:18.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | keyboard and mouse don't work |
| 19:18.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | right? |
| 19:18.28 | derek_ | well i cant get my nvidia card to work now with the binary drivers |
| 19:18.29 | szymon_g | i've installed it few days ago (3-4) and i get no problems |
| 19:18.39 | szymon_g | :? |
| 19:18.44 | barnum | 2 weeks ago? i dont think the proxy has been changed since launch |
| 19:18.45 | valdyn | derek_: how do you know that you installed the drivers properly? |
| 19:18.46 | szymon_g | what kind of errors do you get? |
| 19:18.47 | barnum | misfire |
| 19:18.53 | tell_000 | not for me, only mousemopvement is a bit weird since i installed lenny, in comparison to good old etch |
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| 19:19.02 | derek_ | im sure i installed them proporly |
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| 19:19.08 | wamty | should I do: COLUMNS=1000 dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | ssh newserver 'xargs apt-get install' |
| 19:19.15 | valdyn | derek_: ok, run "X -configure", then start X |
| 19:19.21 | jlindsay | I have one very annoying problem with the new xorg. If I hold a key down that isn't a modifier key, xorg will crash every time. |
| 19:19.22 | abrotman | wamty: why are you asking us? |
| 19:19.45 | szymon_g | derek_: run nvidia-xconfigs, then edit xorg.conf manually if you have to ;) |
| 19:19.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | wamty, don't you know? |
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| 19:20.11 | szymon_g | (it always worked for me) |
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| 19:20.40 | tell_000 | so, how do i set up my root device as a argument to the kernel when i dont know what device udev will use for it? |
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| 19:21.03 | derek_ | thx gona try that now...why they keep changing the way the xorg.conf works lol |
| 19:21.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | derek_, to keep things interesting |
| 19:21.22 | derek_ | lol |
| 19:22.22 | rgr | I need some help with grub again. A disaterous vista install left my system a but screwed. sysrecscue came to the resuce but there is an outstanding grub issue. I have my BOOT on /dev/sda1. The rest is in an LVM. Grub is installed on sda. It shows all the kernels in /sda1. But I need to manually edit the root line each time from (hd0,0) to (hd0,1). But the OPTION is "groot". Why am I having to do this? When I edit it and boot the system |
| 19:22.22 | rgr | start and root is correctly mounted from /dev/debian-lvm/root. Any pointers? Am very confused. |
| 19:22.23 | valdyn | tell_000: udev has nothing to do with this |
| 19:23.04 | valdyn | rgr: fix /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:23.17 | rgr | valdyn: I did. But it still says hdo,0 when I reboot |
| 19:23.23 | valdyn | rgr: no you didnt |
| 19:23.33 | valdyn | rgr: or you forgot to run "update-grub" |
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| 19:23.42 | rgr | I changed the groot as mentioned in the autocofnig part and ran update-grub. |
| 19:23.59 | valdyn | rgr: you need to change the "kopt" thing too |
| 19:24.06 | elops | Package apache-common is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:24.14 | rgr | valdyn: to what? its set for an lvm? |
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| 19:24.28 | rgr | it seems "boot" and "root" are a but confused in the comments there maybe? |
| 19:24.47 | Nikke | which flashplayer should i use? |
| 19:24.56 | rgr | valdyn: # kopt=root=/dev/mapper/debian-root ro |
| 19:25.12 | valdyn | rgr: looks good, but it doesnt match what you wrote above |
| 19:25.15 | elops | then it bitches about cpp-3.3, I need to remove thos version numbers and get generic packages |
| 19:25.15 | rgr | valdyn: # groot=(hd0,1) |
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| 19:25.40 | rgr | valdyn: it might be because I am confused here with boot and root. My BOOT is /dev/sda1. |
| 19:25.46 | valdyn | rgr: ok |
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| 19:25.59 | valdyn | rgr: did you migrate disks? |
| 19:26.05 | rgr | clearly grub finds it, but then has wrong data for the lvm. And I dont see how lvm works here. |
| 19:26.17 | valdyn | rgr: is grub really reading the OLD menu.lst off a different disk? |
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| 19:26.35 | rgr | valdyn: I wondered that, but until I ran "install-grub" there was not grub. |
| 19:26.50 | rgr | how can I tell which menu.lst grub is using? |
| 19:26.51 | valdyn | rgr: grub-install you mean |
| 19:26.59 | rgr | yes-sorry |
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| 19:27.35 | rgr | It cant be in the lvm since boot does not have access priot to "booting". |
| 19:27.40 | rgr | prior |
| 19:27.42 | elops | anyone? |
| 19:27.49 | valdyn | rgr: grub is reading from whatever is autodetected at grub-install running |
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| 19:28.45 | jmartinc | hello guys, dump question but can't find it on page, what's the name debian unstable now? etch->lenny lenny->? |
| 19:28.48 | rgr | yes, I thought so. And I am running now. but when I run grub-install and reboot I get same "no such filesystem" until I change (hd0,0) to (hd0,1). Which really confuses me as surely boot and root are two totally different entities. In this case its boot on sda1. |
| 19:29.04 | jlindsay | jmartinc: It's always called Sid. |
| 19:29.42 | jmartinc | really? thx |
| 19:29.48 | tell_000 | valdyn, udev has nothing to do with this? so, with lilo i give default, standard linux devices? like root=/dev/sda3, which SHOULD be my rootdevice? doesnt work! |
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| 19:30.17 | valdyn | tell_000: so maybe it isnt sda3 then |
| 19:30.18 | jlindsay | jmartinc: If you mean testing, that's now called Squeeze |
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| 19:31.00 | rgr | valdyn: I'll go away and take a pause. It#s been a harrowing few hours adding physical devices to lvms etc. All working bar this glitch. Will be back when I can think straight :-; |
| 19:31.09 | tell_000 | valdyn, oh no, it definetaly is, but the kernel sometimes means its sdk or sdj or sdb or some other random devices |
| 19:31.19 | valdyn | rgr: you need to run update-grub again and verify after running that command that menu.lst entries are correct |
| 19:31.24 | rgr | tell_000: migrate to UUIDs |
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| 19:31.34 | rgr | valdyn: yeah, I did this twice already :-( |
| 19:31.37 | jmartinc | I did mean testing, so squeeze it is,, thx |
| 19:31.42 | tell_000 | rgr, i already use unique labels! |
| 19:31.55 | rgr | tell_000: not labeks. UUIDs to mount. |
| 19:32.00 | tell_000 | but all i get then is 'waiting for root.....' |
| 19:32.27 | tell_000 | rgr, labels always worked fine before lenny |
| 19:32.29 | valdyn | rgr: now change it again to something funny and verify that it propagates properly and that it pops up in the grub boot menu or not |
| 19:32.43 | valdyn | rgr: then maybe you really have a menu.lst used from elsewhere |
| 19:33.39 | rgr | valdyn: yeah, the "add smiley" was on the list next. Back son. |
| 19:33.47 | rgr | son? Sorry ...Soon. |
| 19:33.55 | tell_000 | guessing devices is funny, oh yeah, a real waste of time.... please give us devfs back... |
| 19:34.19 | valdyn | tell_000: you can use uuids if your bios reorders disks randomly |
| 19:34.22 | WormFood | is sawfish/sawmill not included in Lenny? |
| 19:34.43 | tell_000 | valdyn, nono, hahaha, youre kidding, its not my bios that reorders disks ;) |
| 19:35.13 | tell_000 | btw, with kernel 2.4 on a testcd i have always the same devices, not with 2.6 |
| 19:35.23 | valdyn | tell_000: thats also intended |
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| 19:35.33 | pickcoder | tell_000: you can thank udev for that in many cases |
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| 19:35.34 | valdyn | tell_000: rather, explicitely not guaranteed |
| 19:35.51 | tell_000 | pickcoder, yepp, as i said before ;) but nobody believes me |
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| 19:37.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | elops, dpkg --get-selections \* > packagelist ; copy to other machine//ssh to other machine dpkg --set-selections < packagelist ;apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 19:38.18 | elops | that won't get my previous answers to config questions |
| 19:38.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | but your awk stuff would? |
| 19:38.45 | elops | it is possible to copy the debconf answers ? |
| 19:38.47 | elops | no |
| 19:38.50 | elops | How would I do it? |
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| 19:39.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno |
| 19:39.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | this has been good enough for me |
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| 19:39.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | well |
| 19:39.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | obviously... |
| 19:39.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | copying the whole drive would do it |
| 19:39.38 | valdyn | debconf answers are stored in /etc, its possible to copy config files |
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| 19:39.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, that of course as well |
| 19:39.52 | abrotman | !debconf clone |
| 19:39.57 | abrotman | bah .. it's in there somewhere |
| 19:39.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | haha |
| 19:40.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 19:40.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | !clone |
| 19:40.20 | elops | Where? |
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| 19:40.28 | valdyn | oh funny |
| 19:40.29 | abrotman | debconf-copydb ? |
| 19:40.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, ? |
| 19:40.30 | lancelot_of | hello everybody |
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| 19:40.32 | prince_jammys | !aptitude clone |
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| 19:40.45 | elops | man debconf-set-selections |
| 19:40.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg just did answer in /query |
| 19:40.50 | valdyn | gnome-about box, each click on a (http) link opens a gnome terminal |
| 19:40.58 | valdyn | sid as it should be ;) |
| 19:41.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | <dpkg> our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 19:41.01 | elops | there is a pair of utilities to do it, and i believe they are stored in /var No? |
| 19:41.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | that could use some work |
| 19:41.09 | elops | abrotman: there is a pair of utilities to do it, and i believe they are stored in /var No? |
| 19:41.19 | abrotman | elops: if you know, why are you asking us? |
| 19:41.25 | elops | Im asking! |
| 19:41.30 | elops | because you know more than me |
| 19:41.34 | lancelot_of | i'm trying to view the output of an on line webcam through a java console on firefox, but i get the following error message: class xplug.class not found. Any suggestion? |
| 19:41.43 | abrotman | you just said there are a pair of utilities ... so tell us what they are |
| 19:41.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | elops, but you don't like whatever we tell you! |
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| 19:42.12 | valdyn | lancelot_of: blame whoever made that java console thing |
| 19:42.23 | valdyn | lancelot_of: xplug.class should come from him |
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| 19:42.41 | asdfqwer | can i mount folder from an existing fs to a new device without damaging my fs? |
| 19:42.43 | rgr | valdyn: solved. It was the partition flags. Somewhere during the day the wrong partition got tagged as boot. Spotted it in gparted. Still, good learning process. LVMs are pretty cool. |
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| 19:42.48 | elops | abrotman: I need to install debconf-utils ? |
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| 19:43.01 | elops | dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserve information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall><things to backup> |
| 19:43.09 | elops | that command will only install the packages, right? it won't copy over the answers ? |
| 19:43.16 | valdyn | rgr: what does boot have to do with this? you installed grub on a partition? |
| 19:43.18 | lancelot_of | valdyn, isn't there any way to solve the problem? |
| 19:43.28 | valdyn | lancelot_of: not here |
| 19:43.30 | asdfqwer | so for instance, if /dev/sda is my / could i mount /dev/sdb as /usr/local? |
| 19:43.37 | lancelot_of | valdyn, where? |
| 19:43.39 | elops | abrotman: that command will only install the packages, right? it won't copy over the answers ? |
| 19:43.51 | valdyn | lancelot_of: and whoever made the website with that java applet |
| 19:43.56 | valdyn | lancelot_of: at whoever made the website with that java applet |
| 19:44.14 | rgr | Grub needs to know which is the boot partition to update the correctr menu.lst of course. |
| 19:44.22 | rgr | in this case it was updating the wrong place. |
| 19:44.40 | rgr | well, it works now. Thats the main thing for me. |
| 19:44.42 | elops | Please anyone? |
| 19:44.43 | asdfqwer | rgr, you talking to me... |
| 19:44.47 | asdfqwer | oh |
| 19:44.52 | valdyn | rgr: yea, i guess, but grub doesnt need this |
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| 19:45.03 | elops | how would I preload all the answers to debconf questions I did on the old box into the new one? |
| 19:45.20 | rgr | well, works now. Didn't before. |
| 19:45.26 | valdyn | rgr: i have no boot flags at all |
| 19:45.28 | joltcan | elops: Isn't that covered by the installation guide? |
| 19:45.37 | elops | that command 'dpkg' gave me, will only install the packages, right? it won't copy over the answers ? |
| 19:45.42 | rgr | maybe its used if its there? I dont know. |
| 19:45.50 | rgr | Or maybe I got lucky :-) |
| 19:45.57 | rgr | anyway, cheers. |
| 19:46.07 | valdyn | rgr: it should be a windows, dos thing, but im not sure anyway |
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| 19:47.02 | elops | So? |
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| 19:48.17 | abrotman | elops: i think joltcan is implying you should read the installation guide |
| 19:48.35 | elops | IM just asking a simpple question here |
| 19:48.38 | elops | that command 'dpkg' gave me, will only install the packages, right? it won't copy over the answers ? |
| 19:49.21 | asdfqwer | Ok, someone please validate this statement before I go off doing it; given an existing fs occupying one hd, can I install a new hd and mount this device as an existing location on my current fs? |
| 19:49.46 | valdyn | asdfqwer: yes |
| 19:49.49 | abrotman | asdfqwer: like mounting it as /home/? yes |
| 19:49.52 | asdfqwer | easy as editing fstab? |
| 19:50.04 | abrotman | not quite |
| 19:50.06 | asdfqwer | how about /usr/local? |
| 19:50.14 | abrotman | yes, that'd work |
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| 19:50.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | elops, obviously... |
| 19:51.13 | asdfqwer | abrotman,generally speaking, what are the steps for doing this? |
| 19:51.35 | asdfqwer | does my new device need to formatted as an extended partition? |
| 19:51.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | elops, or do you see any debconf information if you do aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' ? |
| 19:52.33 | valdyn | asdfqwer: switch off computer, plug in disk, switch on computer, fdisk new disk to create any partitions, mkfs any partition, mount any partition |
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| 19:53.06 | Mood | is tightvnc supposed to show the current desktop of the remote server? i only see a clean desktop |
| 19:53.14 | asdfqwer | valdyn, can I mkfs from su mode? |
| 19:53.22 | valdyn | asdfqwer: yes |
| 19:53.29 | Nikke | i installed flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound but i cant watch youtube :O |
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| 19:53.46 | asdfqwer | valdyn, so how about the existing contents of /usr/local? |
| 19:53.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, you mean tightvncserver? |
| 19:53.57 | asdfqwer | valdyn, does mkfs take care of this? |
| 19:53.57 | Mood | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
| 19:54.11 | valdyn | asdfqwer: they are just hidden after you mount something at /usr/local |
| 19:54.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, use x11vnc for that, I guess - I think most/all other vnc servers start a new desktop |
| 19:54.27 | Mood | CutMeOwnThroat: but x11vnc doesn't? |
| 19:54.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, no, it connects to the current X |
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| 19:54.48 | Mood | CutMeOwnThroat: ahh... will give it a shot |
| 19:54.52 | Mood | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
| 19:54.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, mom |
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| 19:56.01 | seto | !ati |
| 19:56.01 | valdyn | !fglrx |
| 19:56.01 | valdyn | !test |
| 19:56.01 | valdyn | oo |
| 19:56.01 | seto | !dpkg ati |
| 19:56.01 | valdyn | judd: ati |
| 19:56.01 | judd | valdyn: Error: "ati" is not a valid command. |
| 19:56.01 | valdyn | judd: fglrx |
| 19:56.01 | judd | valdyn: Error: "fglrx" is not a valid command. |
| 19:56.01 | valdyn | hmm |
| 19:56.01 | pixelmonkey | I have a machine on Debian Etch with a 2.6.8 kernel, and I'm trying to install FUSE for sshfs. I have etch-backports repo enabled to get the fuse-source package. But when I do m-a a-i fuse, it fails to build because it claims that the source only works with kernel 2.6.9 or greater, and that I need to install the module for 2.6.8 directly. Does anyone know how I can do that? |
| 19:56.01 | seto | hmm with /msg dpkg ati works fine |
| 19:56.06 | valdyn | dpkg: ati |
| 19:56.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, try ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' (exchange "host" against where you want to run x11vnc) and then do "vncviewer localhost:0" |
| 19:56.23 | seto | dpkg: radeon |
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| 19:56.53 | at0m | !radeon |
| 19:56.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, that also tunnels the vnc connection through ssh - so you can type passwords etc in the vnc session without worry |
| 19:57.13 | valdyn | judd: versions fuse-source |
| 19:57.14 | judd | valdyn: fuse-source -- etch-backports: 2.7.1-2~bpo40+1 |
| 19:57.19 | Mood | CutMeOwnThroat: excellent. i'll give that a shot |
| 19:57.22 | valdyn | judd: versions fuse-utils |
| 19:57.23 | judd | valdyn: fuse-utils -- etch: 2.5.3-4.4 etch-backports: 2.7.1-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.7.4-1.1 sid: 2.7.4-1.1 squeeze: 2.7.4-1.1 |
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| 19:57.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | seto, I think not - I think only every nth query or so goes through - ddos or something? |
| 19:57.28 | at0m | reverts to /msg dpkg |
| 19:58.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, of course that means you can't have a vnc server running for your localhost at the same time... but I think few people ever need that :) |
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| 19:59.28 | dustybin | wow why is there a big update in lenny? |
| 19:59.29 | valdyn | pixelmonkey: you would need to use the etch fuse-source package |
| 19:59.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mood, oh, and you can pretty much ignore x11vncs bitching about having no password set - only one vnc client can connect at any time, so even if others have access to your machine... |
| 19:59.45 | valdyn | pixelmonkey: as the etch-backports fuse-source package also requires a new kernel |
| 19:59.49 | szymon_g | dustybin: 'big update'? i have nothing |
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| 20:00.01 | valdyn | pixelmonkey: theres a newer kernel in plain etch too |
| 20:00.09 | szymon_g | i.e. aptitude shows nothing |
| 20:00.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | dustybin, lennyr1? (/topic) |
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| 20:00.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | (just guessing) |
| 20:00.53 | dustybin | a new version of lenny already wtf |
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| 20:01.00 | valdyn | !topicsmite dustybin |
| 20:01.01 | Mood | CutMeOwnThroat: gotcha |
| 20:01.05 | valdyn | grr! |
| 20:01.14 | topgun21 | which pastebin do i use to paste trouble shooting information? |
| 20:01.46 | pixelmonkey | valdyn, where can I get the etch fuse-source package? I don't have it here. |
| 20:02.37 | pixelmonkey | valdyn, oh, shoot... I think I'm pointed at stable rather than etch... stable has changed, I assume. |
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| 20:03.23 | ehazlett | does anyone have a link to get ocfs2 working in debian 5? |
| 20:04.27 | topgun21 | any pointers on how to fix the lower portion of this paste? |
| 20:04.30 | topgun21 | http://paste.debian.net/33390/ |
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| 20:06.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | topgun21, space instead of slash in front of main? |
| 20:07.12 | Sativouf | topgun21: http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/ |
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| 20:08.04 | asdfqwer | valdyn, will mkfs generate UUID in fstab? |
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| 20:09.17 | asdfqwer | how is this uuid generated in fstab anyways? |
| 20:09.22 | at0m | asdfqwer, don't think do, i'm using tune2fs for that |
| 20:09.35 | topgun21 | Sativouf: So i need to re[place some lines in my apt/sources.list file? |
| 20:09.50 | at0m | asdfqwer, you put it there by getting it from the disk, /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 20:09.57 | asdfqwer | oh ok |
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| 20:10.12 | at0m | oruse label, /dev/disk/by-label/ |
| 20:10.25 | asdfqwer | how about this <pass> parameter |
| 20:10.28 | Sativouf | topgun21: you need to remove the volatile lines indeed, if you are using squeeze |
| 20:10.44 | phobik | anyone have any experience with simple-cdd, I am pulling my hair our trying to get a .postinst script to work.... |
| 20:10.46 | at0m | asdfqwer, man fstab |
| 20:10.53 | at0m | nite gents |
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| 20:11.40 | asdfqwer | i see, it's just for fsck |
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| 20:13.46 | topgun21 | Sativouf: updated >> http://paste.debian.net/33390/ |
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| 20:17.43 | ewoerner | hi |
| 20:18.23 | ewoerner | for experiments, i have installed both 2.6.29 kernel and xorg 7.4 |
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| 20:19.22 | ewoerner | with an intel graphics card |
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| 20:20.08 | szymon_g | which model? |
| 20:20.13 | ewoerner | now my graphic system is totally corrupted |
| 20:20.15 | szymon_g | (of graphic card) |
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| 20:20.42 | ewoerner | 855gm |
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| 20:21.18 | topgun21 | Could som one please help me with this preoblem >> http://paste.debian.net/33391/ |
| 20:21.33 | ewoerner | haven't tried uxa though |
| 20:22.13 | ewoerner | still the default (exa) |
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| 20:25.02 | abrotman | topgun21: no volatile for squeeze |
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| 20:25.18 | ewoerner | http://kde.pastey.net/112209 <-- my xorg.conf |
| 20:26.01 | abrotman | ewoerner: do you have a problem that needs assistance? |
| 20:26.15 | topgun21 | thanks abrotman \ |
| 20:26.44 | ewoerner | abrotman: don't know |
| 20:26.53 | abrotman | okay then ... |
| 20:27.00 | ewoerner | actually, i can stay with the 2.6.26 kernel |
| 20:27.09 | abrotman | ewoerner: you're not making any sense |
| 20:27.13 | ewoerner | it's more curiosity |
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| 20:27.34 | topgun21 | Is it safe to delete the old initramfs immage, the reason i ask is because mu root partition is filling up rather quickly\ |
| 20:27.41 | ewoerner | abrotman: why? |
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| 20:28.09 | ewoerner | it's quite easy: i have some problem with xorg 7.4 in combination with 2.6.29 kernel |
| 20:28.31 | ewoerner | which can easily be solved by just sticking to a testing kernel (i.e. 2.6.26) |
| 20:28.57 | abrotman | ewoerner: i asked you if you needed help .. you said you weren't sure .. if you need help put your Xorg.0.log in a pastebin or at least describe the problem |
| 20:28.59 | topgun21 | ewoerner: pleaseplace your issue on paste,debian.net |
| 20:29.08 | abrotman | topgun21: if you don't use that kernel anymore |
| 20:29.44 | ewoerner | abrotman: i already described it partially |
| 20:29.58 | ewoerner | screen is corrupted |
| 20:30.06 | topgun21 | abrotman: Is their a special tool that i need to use in order to delte old initramfs images? |
| 20:30.44 | ewoerner | abrotman: looks like this: http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=intel_uxa&image=intel_uxa_corrupt1 |
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| 20:31.00 | asdfqwer | abrotman, will fstab recognize my device if i refer to it by it's volume label opposed to it's UUID? |
| 20:31.32 | ewoerner | i just found it weird because iirc uxa is not default (and that screenshot is with uxa) |
| 20:32.38 | topgun21 | ewoerner: ctrl+alt+f1, then login as root and issue the killx command |
| 20:33.00 | topgun21 | or altrenativly you can do a telinit 3 |
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| 20:33.19 | abrotman | guess he didn't want to know |
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| 20:33.36 | ewoerner | no :-) |
| 20:33.51 | ewoerner | as i said, there is no real problem |
| 20:33.58 | ewoerner | already rebooted to 2.6.26 |
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| 20:34.24 | abrotman | ewoerner: and you compiled your own kernel? |
| 20:34.32 | ewoerner | abrotman: no |
| 20:34.35 | ewoerner | unstable |
| 20:34.41 | topgun21 | maybe it is time for me to ditch gnmoe and get xfce or kde |
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| 20:34.49 | abrotman | ewoerner: did you check the bts? |
| 20:35.10 | abrotman | topgun21: you can remove the kernel package to remove the initramfs |
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| 20:35.29 | ewoerner | abrotman: yes, no result |
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| 20:36.05 | abrotman | ewoerner: which packages did you check? |
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| 20:36.19 | Piet | I would like to run some linux (probably ubuntu) with a graphical desktop from within a paravirtualized Xen DomU running lenny? Would you know how? |
| 20:36.40 | ewoerner | abrotman: linux-image-2.6.29-1-686 and xorg (source package) |
| 20:36.54 | phobik | anyone have any experience with simple-cdd, I am pulling my hair our trying to get a .postinst script to work.... |
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| 20:37.04 | ewoerner | damn |
| 20:37.07 | ewoerner | forgot the intel |
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| 20:37.15 | gravity | ewoerner: The xorg source package has very little in it |
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| 20:37.45 | Piet | rephrased: I would like to run some linux (probably ubuntu) with a graphical desktop from within a paravirtualized Xen DomU running below a lenny Dom0? Would you know how? |
| 20:37.46 | gravity | And won't list many bugs of interest |
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| 20:39.32 | ewoerner | okay |
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| 20:39.43 | ewoerner | probably found something in the bts |
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| 20:41.19 | dustybin | how can i make this crontab only work mon-fri ? |
| 20:41.22 | dustybin | 0 8 * * * /usr/local/bin/zmpkg.pl bedroom_rec |
| 20:41.41 | abrotman | dustybin: man 5 crontab |
| 20:42.05 | CoolCold | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.17 | abrotman | jeez .. let him read |
| 20:42.19 | CoolCold | and yes, listen to abrotman, man 5 crontab ;) |
| 20:42.42 | dustybin | 0 8 * * mon-fri /usr/local/bin/zmpkg.pl bedroom_rec |
| 20:42.47 | dustybin | i think that might work |
| 20:44.50 | dustybin | this will work: 0 8 * * 1-5 /usr/local/bin/zmpkg.pl bedroom_rec |
| 20:45.07 | dustybin | debian lenny security in action :D |
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| 20:47.21 | topgun21 | Is it possible to install the mstruetype core fonts and if so what is the name of the package uesed to do it. |
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| 20:49.35 | abrotman | topgun21: debian uses the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package IIRC |
| 20:49.37 | ewoerner | topgun21: msttcorefonts, in contrib |
| 20:49.40 | Nikke | how do i add dwm to the gdm session list? |
| 20:50.21 | topgun21 | thank you both abrotman and ewo |
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| 20:54.49 | aoeu | i'm trying to clone a debian install. i dd'd the first part of the drive from one drive to another, and created a zero partition table on the destination drive. will the gnome boot loader still be in the mbr, even though i zero'd the partition table? |
| 20:56.32 | CoolCold | gnome boot loader O.o |
| 20:56.57 | CoolCold | does it really exist? |
| 20:57.11 | aoeu | i meant grub |
| 20:57.12 | aoeu | lol |
| 20:57.29 | aoeu | just got up and i smoked too much buddha yesterday |
| 20:58.29 | jelly-home | aoeu: what exactly did you dd? |
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| 20:59.00 | CoolCold | i didn't get your idea - copying let's say sda1 wit hdd and then rewriting partition table? |
| 20:59.09 | osfd | the msg dpkg is dead ?? |
| 21:00.11 | aoeu | i did dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda, let it run for 10 secs, and then quit it |
| 21:00.24 | aoeu | then i did cfdisk -z /dev/sda, and made partitions |
| 21:00.43 | aoeu | now i'm waiting for them to format, then i'm rsyncing everything over |
| 21:00.44 | CoolCold | if i'd clone the drive, i'd do sfdisk -d /dev/sda|sfdisk /dev/sdb, mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1, mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot and smth like cd /mnt/boot && dump -0 -|restore -f - |
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| 21:01.06 | jelly-home | aoeu: what purpose would that serve? |
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| 21:01.22 | aoeu | it'd copy over the mbr of the drive |
| 21:01.37 | jelly-home | aoeu: in short, that dd was useless; you have to reinstall grub anyway |
| 21:01.37 | aoeu | just wondering if when i create a zero partition table, does that wipe out the boot loader |
| 21:01.48 | CoolCold | yep |
| 21:02.01 | jelly-home | aoeu: depends on the way you do it |
| 21:02.21 | aoeu | how do i install grub on the drive without it thinking its booting from /dev/sda when its booting |
| 21:02.37 | jelly-home | aoeu: fdisk and similar won't overwrite the code; but that code isn't enough to make grub work |
| 21:02.54 | CoolCold | aoeu: grub thinks in hd0 terms |
| 21:04.10 | CoolCold | you should do smth like http://pastebin.com/m798b5f05 |
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| 21:06.48 | twinkie_addict | i noticed my web browsing slows when compiz fussion is running |
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| 21:08.42 | ewoerner | okay, with uxa it actually seems to work |
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| 21:09.29 | aoeu | CoolCold, what do i type to get to that grub console? |
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| 21:09.38 | CoolCold | grub ? |
| 21:09.40 | bpun | someone has the name of the tasklist manager for gnome (or packagename?)? i did a minimal installation.. |
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| 21:10.37 | adb | !tell bpun about search |
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| 21:11.09 | aoeu | CoolCold, how do i get my console to say "Grub>" |
| 21:11.39 | CoolCold | well, you should run command 'grub' and it will give you promt |
| 21:11.45 | bpun | knows how to search otherwise he wouldn't be here |
| 21:12.09 | CoolCold | it must not look exactly as 'Grub>', this is just example |
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| 21:13.05 | bpun | anyone here can run the taskman (ctl-esc ?) and tell me the gnome taskmanager's name.. then i can try to find it.. |
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| 21:13.29 | bpun | if not using gnome, then thats fine... |
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| 21:16.26 | CoolCold | sleepz |
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| 21:17.10 | aoeu | CoolCold, i did all that stuff. so this means i can expect it to boot? |
| 21:18.07 | aoeu | CoolCold, http://pastebin.com/mc5d6d17 |
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| 21:26.52 | cognitiaclaeves | How does one upgrade Lenny's Bugzilla? |
| 21:27.13 | cognitiaclaeves | ( Or is it better just to Uninstall the .deb and install BZ manually? ) |
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| 21:31.12 | maduser | hi |
| 21:32.24 | merlinco1ey | ih, maduser |
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| 21:33.33 | maduser | last package HAL in repo is corrupted how fix this |
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| 21:35.01 | dkr | ok, here's a strange issue. I have a hosts file entry for foo with a lan ip. from my shell, ping, ssh, etc resolve the name properly to that local ip. but I have some gnome applet launchers that simply run xterm -e ssh foo and they are not using the hosts file. nsswitch.con has "hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4" |
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| 21:35.52 | dkr | any idea how this is possible? btw, this is after I copied my home dir from my old system to a newly installed debian stable |
| 21:36.34 | dkr | can gnome/launchers be using some different dns resolver tha ignores nsswitch.conf and doesn't read the hosts file first? |
| 21:37.03 | Spoonybard | I am having an issue with Iceweasel. Specificly logging into Facebook can take several attempts. I have google but nothing concrete has turned up. Would changing useragent in about:config to Firefox resolve this issue? |
| 21:37.09 | justin | dkr: does 'xterm -e ssh' work from an xterm? |
| 21:37.38 | dkr | nevermind, I am an idiot. the xterm that i chedk the /etc/hosts file was actually the odl workstaion I was copying from. (sam ehostname |
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| 21:40.12 | bbelt16ag | | i got a 'ext sata' ports on my mobo here, like three of them. i plugged some driver into it and they now show up on the same page as the nvidia raid stuff. and yes i asked in #hardware they are ignoring me... |
| 21:40.36 | bbelt16ag | any ideas on if its Esata or what? the port fits my sata cables. |
| 21:40.50 | bbelt16ag | and they info on what the disks shows up correctly |
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| 21:41.00 | justin | bbelt16ag: esata = external sata |
| 21:41.19 | justin | bbelt16ag: pretty sure the cables are slightly different though |
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| 21:41.33 | jelly-home | bbelt16ag: eSATA has slightly different and incompatible connectors than internal sata, but apart frm that it's pretty much the same |
| 21:42.07 | jelly-home | no idea what "show up on the same page as the nvidia raid stuff" means |
| 21:42.19 | jelly-home | in bios? |
| 21:42.22 | bbelt16ag | yes |
| 21:42.26 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.43 | bbelt16ag | after the main page with my other drives (sata) i got a second one |
| 21:42.56 | jelly-home | good for you to have eSATA drives, then |
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| 21:43.03 | bbelt16ag | which says press any key to setup raid, and there are my two WD |
| 21:43.06 | bbelt16ag | eh |
| 21:43.10 | bbelt16ag | no not esata |
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| 21:43.14 | bbelt16ag | sata |
| 21:43.27 | bbelt16ag | at the top |
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| 21:43.40 | bbelt16ag | i understand they have incompatible connectors |
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| 21:43.49 | jelly-home | bbelt16ag: don't use onboard raid; if you can, disable it and use a native (non raid) mode |
| 21:43.58 | bbelt16ag | i am not using raid. |
| 21:44.12 | bbelt16ag | i am just saying thats where it puts the info for my drives, why i have no idea. |
| 21:44.26 | bbelt16ag | i am looking for the name of the mobo so i find out WTH is going on.. |
| 21:44.30 | jelly-home | because you've connected it to that controller |
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| 21:45.05 | jelly-home | ie the esata connectors go to the onboard-raid controller |
| 21:45.42 | bbelt16ag | its calling it EXT SATA |
| 21:46.12 | jelly-home | note this is #debian, not #yourbios |
| 21:46.16 | bbelt16ag | heh |
| 21:46.23 | bbelt16ag | ok so it is E sata |
| 21:46.43 | Nikke | how do i add dwm to the gdm session list? |
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| 21:50.59 | bbelt16ag | ok its two chips... |
| 21:51.03 | bbelt16ag | thats what it is.. |
| 21:51.04 | sphenxes01 | i downloaded peercast on lenny? how can i start it? |
| 21:51.07 | bbelt16ag | intersting |
| 21:52.08 | bbelt16ag | this sucks i gotta remove my dvd burners now grrr |
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| 21:55.31 | pickcoder | does each branch of an svn root have its own revision numbering? |
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| 21:56.31 | stew | pickcoder: a svn revision number is unique to its repository |
| 21:56.51 | pickcoder | that's what I thought |
| 21:56.54 | pickcoder | thanks for verifying |
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| 22:03.04 | flopez | hi! Now my ssh stars over tcp6...i want to configurate it to start over tcp4...how can i do that ? |
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| 22:04.11 | Wojtas | hello |
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| 22:06.17 | SilentGreen | hello world |
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| 22:10.45 | Wojtas | can anyone tell me where can i enter net setups in debian "lenny"? i must configure my tcp/ip protocol |
| 22:10.50 | Wojtas | i'm newbie |
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| 22:11.39 | azeem | Wojtas: configure how? |
| 22:11.51 | flopez | hi! Now my ssh stars over tcp6...i want to configurate it to start over tcp4...how can i do that ? |
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| 22:13.19 | Wojtas | azeem: i mean how to enter network settings like in windows in "my net places" |
| 22:13.32 | azeem | what kind of settings? |
| 22:13.40 | Wojtas | i must configure dlink dwl-510 card |
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| 22:13.50 | azeem | is that a WLAN card? |
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| 22:13.58 | Wojtas | yep i think so |
| 22:14.05 | azeem | are you running GNOME or KDE? |
| 22:14.26 | Wojtas | http://sklep.tadu.pl/info/WLDWL510 |
| 22:14.27 | Wojtas | this one |
| 22:14.32 | Flumdahl | hey, i have a question. one of my debian servers did just reboot. and when i check last log this appear: reboot system boot 2.6.26-1-686 Tue Apr 14 00:05 - 00:13 (00:07) <-- there is no other that have access to the server ... is it a reboot physicle or what? |
| 22:14.36 | Wojtas | i'm using gnome |
| 22:14.45 | azeem | Wojtas: did you try network-manager? |
| 22:15.15 | azeem | Flumdahl: could be; or maybe check auth.log whether somebody else logged in |
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| 22:15.25 | Wojtas | this one in slide menu "system" or something? |
| 22:15.34 | Flumdahl | azeem: there is no other that has logged in ... and log is not wiped so i dont think it has been hacked. |
| 22:15.37 | azeem | Wojtas: it's usually in the panel already |
| 22:16.02 | Flumdahl | but i have never noticed this before |
| 22:16.10 | Nikke | gah does anyone knows how to add dwm to the gdm session list? |
| 22:16.25 | Wojtas | can you tell me if the newest distro have drivers for this card? |
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| 22:16.30 | Wojtas | it's kinda old |
| 22:16.54 | Wojtas | azeem: yes, i tried this in the panel, but it's harder than normal windows settings |
| 22:17.09 | azeem | Wojtas: well then |
| 22:17.12 | Wojtas | azeem: i don't know where to set my net mask, host, ip etc. |
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| 22:17.22 | azeem | Wojtas: don't you have a WLAN router or so? |
| 22:17.35 | azeem | which does DHCP |
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| 22:17.44 | Wojtas | i have built-in card |
| 22:17.52 | azeem | what does your card connect to? |
| 22:18.15 | Wojtas | it connects to my "town-radio-net" |
| 22:18.30 | azeem | is that your WLAN? |
| 22:18.37 | Wojtas | yep |
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| 22:18.44 | azeem | did you setup that yourself? |
| 22:19.18 | Wojtas | in windows i must configure some things after "fresh-install", but here i can't find them |
| 22:19.24 | azeem | did you setup that yourself? |
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| 22:19.38 | azeem | "that" == "town-radio-net" |
| 22:19.55 | Wojtas | yes |
| 22:19.57 | azeem | Wojtas: who provided you with the data to configure "some things"? |
| 22:20.03 | Flumdahl | azeem: what kind of reason can deb restart without anyone telling it to do it? |
| 22:20.24 | azeem | Flumdahl: you said it yourself: hardware reset |
| 22:20.26 | Flumdahl | or it maybe was any by mistake pushed ctrl + alt + del on keyboard to server. |
| 22:20.29 | azeem | I don't know of many others |
| 22:20.29 | Flumdahl | ahh |
| 22:20.41 | azeem | could also be |
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| 22:20.55 | Wojtas | azeem: my provider just gave me ip, net mask etc numbers. on d-link cd i have drivers for the card, but only *.exe (for windows) |
| 22:21.01 | Firenight | hello |
| 22:21.04 | Firenight | I installed ndiswrapper and everything loaded my drivers and it keeps telling me module failed can not find module |
| 22:21.20 | azeem | Wojtas: you directly connect to your provider via WLAN? |
| 22:21.31 | azeem | Wojtas: your provider did not supply a WLAN-router or so? |
| 22:21.41 | Wojtas | he gave it to me, yes |
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| 22:21.49 | azeem | it being a WLAN router? |
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| 22:22.21 | Wojtas | i don't know whether it's a router, router should split internet between some computers, but it's only for one computer |
| 22:22.30 | Wojtas | it's wlan net adapter |
| 22:22.52 | azeem | what's at the other end? |
| 22:22.59 | azeem | telephone plug? network plug? |
| 22:23.25 | Wojtas | oh, it's some kinda "small-satelite" behind my window :) |
| 22:24.02 | azeem | Wojtas: well whatever, probably you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces then I guess |
| 22:24.14 | Wojtas | i have cable from this wlan card to this "mini-satellite" outside my window and it receives radio-internet from my provider 1km further |
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| 22:24.42 | azeem | Wojtas: I still don't understand why your D-Link does not get its network auto-configured |
| 22:24.45 | Firenight | *waits in line* |
| 22:24.45 | azeem | but oh well |
| 22:24.48 | pickcoder | it's probably a parabolic antenna |
| 22:24.55 | pickcoder | on a standard wlan card |
| 22:25.09 | SPF | hmm, dpkg doesnt seem to respond, anyone else has the same problem? |
| 22:25.17 | azeem | !hi |
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| 22:25.27 | pickcoder | azeem: maybe they don't support DHCP on a segmented wlan |
| 22:25.35 | pickcoder | and the info provided has to into interfaces |
| 22:25.37 | sepski | Wojtas, ifconfig -a do you have a interface for the card ? if you do, it's just to put your values into /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces for details) |
| 22:25.42 | pickcoder | s/has to/has to go |
| 22:25.46 | adb | [13:04:01] * dpkg has quit (Client Quit |
| 22:26.24 | Wojtas | sepski: ok, i'll check this path when i'll run debian |
| 22:26.33 | Wojtas | will write it down somewhere :) |
| 22:26.59 | Firenight | I installed ndiswrapper and everything loaded my drivers and it keeps telling me module failed can not find modulen i tryed modprobing ndiswrapper nothing. i tryed ndisgtk installed the drivers modules failed but the drivers stay loaded and says hardware is pressent |
| 22:27.01 | SPF | adb: dpkg always quits and joins once a day, always around that time |
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| 22:27.34 | pickcoder | Firenight: then you're missing firmware or the driver is wrong |
| 22:27.34 | Wojtas | ok, i'll try to find some help on polish forums in google |
| 22:27.36 | Wojtas | brb |
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| 22:27.43 | pickcoder | unless I don't understand |
| 22:27.45 | jpinx | come back dpkg - all is forgiven |
| 22:27.51 | Firenight | hmm what one is the firmware driver. |
| 22:27.57 | Firenight | not the int one right? |
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| 22:28.08 | adb | SPF: his not joins until now |
| 22:28.21 | Firenight | o wait I think i understand my problem. i will be back hopefully |
| 22:28.32 | pickcoder | Firenight: it would help everyone if you pasted the PCI ID of the card |
| 22:28.47 | Firenight | the card is a 4321 broadcom |
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| 22:29.07 | Firenight | on an hp tx2000 |
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| 22:32.08 | Wojtas | azeem: just to clear the situation, when debian was installing, it found my d-link card as wlan card |
| 22:32.49 | Wojtas | azeem: also on polish forums i've found that newest debian has the drivers for these cards already installed, it seems to be truth |
| 22:33.15 | Wojtas | so later i'll try to find some more about settings |
| 22:34.03 | sepski | Wojtas, everything about settings is the manpage man interfaces |
| 22:34.56 | Wojtas | oki :) |
| 22:35.02 | Wojtas | i hope i'll solve this problem |
| 22:35.14 | sepski | also 10.6.1.1 here http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html would help |
| 22:35.16 | Wojtas | i hate installing internet even on windows |
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| 22:35.44 | Wojtas | thanks man, it'll surely help |
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| 22:41.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, ole buddy, what's wrong with you |
| 22:42.09 | simonrvn | ok i have a question, but it requires me pasting crap, so hold on for the url... |
| 22:42.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | how should anyone produce a coherent answer without dpkg :( |
| 22:43.13 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | adb, you aint dpkg, you can't fool me! |
| 22:43.40 | simonrvn | http://paste.debian.net/33417/ |
| 22:44.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh, why do you use perl when you only do one sed substitution? |
| 22:44.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | to confuse us? :) |
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| 22:45.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the catshit is pretty smelly |
| 22:45.29 | simonrvn | i was, but sed wasn't doing anything either |
| 22:45.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I don't know if perl can do that |
| 22:45.51 | simonrvn | that's what the /m is for, multi-line |
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| 22:46.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you mean sed 's/Here/\n\nHere/' ? |
| 22:46.13 | simonrvn | i'll ask in #perl, and embarrass myself |
| 22:46.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, I mean you want in-file substitution, i.e. sed -i |
| 22:46.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | perl is not sed, it's more of a full script language |
| 22:46.53 | simonrvn | no, i want to remove that " alexander\n" and just have the "Here" start the file. |
| 22:46.57 | simonrvn | i know |
| 22:47.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | aah, ok |
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| 22:47.38 | simonrvn | i have 500 other files like that, hence me doing it this way |
| 22:47.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | but you don't know what "alexander" is? |
| 22:48.11 | simonrvn | ...that have other stuff after the initial space, like "abuse", etc. |
| 22:48.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, perhaps paste a couple of real example |
| 22:48.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | couple of lines, that is |
| 22:48.40 | simonrvn | that *is* a real example |
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| 22:50.26 | Loevgaard | If I have a folder /var/www/web1/images and I have a folder /var/www/web2/images and I want web2 to be a copy of web1 all the time. How do I do that? |
| 22:50.57 | pickcoder | symlink |
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| 22:51.35 | Loevgaard | how? |
| 22:51.38 | abrotman | man ln |
| 22:51.39 | karsten | Loevgaard: Or bind mount. More than one way to skin a cat. |
| 22:51.43 | karsten | Loevgaard: man ln |
| 22:51.50 | karsten | Loevgaard: ... or man mount |
| 22:52.30 | Loevgaard | should it be: ln -s /var/www/web1/images /var/www/web2/images ? |
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| 22:55.28 | Loevgaard | it works! |
| 22:55.32 | Loevgaard | great, thanks guys! |
| 22:57.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, hm, actually sed can do these multiline things agaik |
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| 22:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, :s/.*\n\nHere/Here/ works fine in sed |
| 22:59.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, oh - and your paste has an obvious mistake - the first * must be .* |
| 22:59.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | the regexp in that, that is |
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| 23:00.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | and -i is -i[extension] according to man perl |
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| 23:02.36 | demmon | 2.6.28 it the best and last debian kernel |
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| 23:02.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, there will be others :) |
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| 23:02.55 | demmon | but last |
| 23:02.57 | stew | demmon: what do you mean? |
| 23:03.05 | stew | judd: kernels |
| 23:03.07 | judd | stew: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-2~snapshot.12850); sid: 2.6.28-1-686 (2.6.28-1); squeeze: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); lenny: 2.6.26-1-686 (2.6.26-13); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 23:03.20 | stew | bah, that's outdated, sid has 2.6.29 now |
| 23:03.29 | demmon | i want a debian 5 and its the one with 2.6.28 kernel |
| 23:03.54 | demmon | its that the newest version of debian 5 |
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| 23:04.17 | demmon | hey is dreamlinux supported here |
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| 23:04.21 | stew | demmon: the newest kernel in debian 5 is 2.6.26 |
| 23:04.24 | abrotman | demmon: no, it is not |
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| 23:05.05 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: ty |
| 23:05.15 | demmon | so if dreamlinux its made for kernel 2.6.28 means in mewer than the one that debian 5 use |
| 23:05.23 | demmon | from* |
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| 23:05.58 | demmon | ah nevermind cheers |
| 23:06.05 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: no worky here... |
| 23:06.38 | stew | (and no, their 2.6.28 is probably older than lenny's 2.6.26...) |
| 23:06.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, vim, not vimtiny ? |
| 23:07.09 | stew | (seing as the 2.6.26 in lenny is only 2 days old) |
| 23:07.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, if it's 500 files, sed is not so useful :) |
| 23:07.41 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: what? |
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| 23:08.39 | simonrvn | has no idea wtf is going on |
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| 23:10.35 | s4Ker | how to install a mumble server on Debian 4.0r4 ? :S without mysql? |
| 23:10.40 | simonrvn | is starting to feel frustrated... |
| 23:11.01 | simonrvn | this is fricking simple, ffs... |
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| 23:11.21 | s4Ker | it is? :O |
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| 23:11.48 | SamuraiDio | hi all |
| 23:12.02 | simonrvn | s4Ker: why aren't you on lenny yet? ;) |
| 23:12.11 | s4Ker | lenny? :O |
| 23:12.12 | s4Ker | sry |
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| 23:12.33 | simonrvn | /topic |
| 23:12.37 | s4Ker | im linuxnoname, just askin for a friend of mine who wants to set up a mumble server on his linux root :S |
| 23:13.03 | SamuraiDio | i did an aptitude full-upgrade two weeks ago, and since then, i cant use usb storage devices. the device is just not created under /dev/sd* |
| 23:13.05 | simonrvn | doesn't know a mumble is |
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| 23:13.24 | s4Ker | err? |
| 23:13.40 | jpinx | judd: versions mumble |
| 23:13.41 | judd | jpinx: mumble -- lenny: 1.1.4-4+lenny1 sid: 1.1.8-1 squeeze: 1.1.8-1 |
| 23:13.46 | dkr | SamuraiDio: is usb-storage kernel module loaded? anything in dmesg when device plugged in? |
| 23:13.50 | simonrvn | s4Ker: don't msg me |
| 23:13.51 | abrotman | judd: info mumble --release lenny |
| 23:13.52 | judd | abrotman: mumble (sound): is optional; Version: 1.1.4-4+lenny1; Size: 1023.0k; Installed: 2140k -- Low latency VoIP client |
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| 23:14.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, sorry vim is not so useful with 500 lines, sed would be... |
| 23:14.21 | simonrvn | oh, that's what it is |
| 23:14.29 | jpinx | installs mumble to see if it'll replace skype |
| 23:14.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell |
| 23:14.38 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: i figured that's what you meant ;). |
| 23:14.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | with 500 *files* |
| 23:14.51 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 23:14.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | garble garble all in marble |
| 23:15.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't *have* to talk sense! |
| 23:15.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | although it would be nice |
| 23:15.34 | SamuraiDio | dkr, ops, that was it, the usb-storage module wasn't loaded. thanks ^^ |
| 23:15.49 | abrotman | which roman filled his mouth with smooth stones and spoke at the sea? |
| 23:16.05 | simonrvn | garble |
| 23:16.05 | dvs | Cea ass? |
| 23:16.14 | s4Ker | hum |
| 23:16.18 | s4Ker | linuxnerds are really nice :> |
| 23:16.22 | s4Ker | hadde |
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| 23:16.29 | jpinx | bollocks - mumble is a kiddies voice/gaming thingy |
| 23:16.42 | simonrvn | poop |
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| 23:17.08 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: Demosthenes |
| 23:17.22 | abrotman | see .. dondelelcaro is useful! i don't care what simonrvn says |
| 23:17.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 23:17.29 | simonrvn | ok, enough play, now to get frustrated again. |
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| 23:17.43 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: but it's greek, not roman |
| 23:17.48 | jpinx | hence the expressions "to speak with a mouthful of marbles" ? |
| 23:17.51 | abrotman | oh .. i thought he was greek .. |
| 23:17.53 | abrotman | erm .. roman |
| 23:18.13 | dkr | ah, no wonder my searches were failing. :) |
| 23:18.16 | abrotman | ah well .. "close enough" |
| 23:18.33 | jpinx | abrotman: european ;) |
| 23:18.56 | simonrvn | close enough only counts, in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons |
| 23:19.19 | abrotman | and google? |
| 23:19.49 | jpinx | wonders at the parallel between nuclear weapons and horseshoes |
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| 23:20.14 | jetscreamer | only has to be close |
| 23:20.20 | simonrvn | jpinx: you don't have to aim very well to hit the target |
| 23:20.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, of course, if you can just match the 1st alexander, you could do sed -e '/ alexander */,2{d}' xx |
| 23:20.42 | jetscreamer | well you don't have to actually hit it dead on with any of those, close counts |
| 23:21.30 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, here's another paste, it'll show exactly what i have to work with |
| 23:22.08 | simonrvn | http://paste.debian.net/33419/ |
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| 23:22.27 | simonrvn | and some 400-odd other ones |
| 23:22.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | so what's wrong with sed '/ alexander */,2{d}' |
| 23:22.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 23:22.51 | simonrvn | they all start with " some-phrase-here\n" |
| 23:22.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | right |
| 23:23.09 | simonrvn | because that's not the only word i'm looking for? |
| 23:23.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | jaja |
| 23:23.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | got it |
| 23:24.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | many lines starting with a space? |
| 23:24.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | many *other* lines.. |
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| 23:24.59 | simonrvn | no each one ends at the "[[!inline ..." thing |
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| 23:25.07 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | whats the package which helps to choose the best nearby mirror in synaptic? |
| 23:25.23 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i am not talking about the text based netselect. but the one for synaptic |
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| 23:25.29 | abrotman | apt-spy ? |
| 23:25.38 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | oh |
| 23:25.50 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | thanks |
| 23:25.55 | enyawix | anyone running festival tts? |
| 23:26.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | so sed '/^ [a-z].*/,2 {d}' would work but not be very secure |
| 23:26.07 | dkr | !anyone |
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| 23:26.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | points at dkr and laughs |
| 23:26.22 | simonrvn | anyone use |
| 23:26.22 | abrotman | bot is napping |
| 23:26.30 | abrotman | @simonrvn |
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| 23:26.33 | simonrvn | oh yeh... doh |
| 23:26.35 | abrotman | ravenbird: hi |
| 23:26.36 | ravenbird | Many greetings, abrotman, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 23:26.42 | abrotman | eh ok |
| 23:26.44 | simonrvn | &anyone use |
| 23:26.45 | ravenbird | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 23:27.00 | enyawix | i keep getting "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp" |
| 23:27.02 | dvs | twins! |
| 23:27.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | &anyone use simonrvn |
| 23:27.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
| 23:27.15 | simonrvn | i do ;p |
| 23:27.24 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | abrotman which branch do you use? testing? |
| 23:27.28 | simonrvn | 24/7, man |
| 23:27.33 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: how is that relevant to your question? |
| 23:27.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | no this is a different question |
| 23:28.05 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: what's that ,2 {d} thing for? |
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| 23:28.34 | prince_jammys | simonrvn: so what is it that you need done with a file like what you just pasted? |
| 23:28.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, sed '/^ [^H]/ {N;N;N; s/^ .*\n\nHere/Here/}' |
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| 23:29.29 | simonrvn | prince_jammys: remove " some-phrase\nHere ... (rest of file)" to end up with "Here ... (rest of file)" |
| 23:29.53 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: nope |
| 23:29.53 | mirak_ | hi |
| 23:30.05 | simonrvn | oh wait |
| 23:30.08 | prince_jammys | and save each section to a separate file? "drugs", "ducks", etc? |
| 23:30.21 | mirak_ | I would like with sed to get 2_3 from the 1_2_3 string , how can I do that , |
| 23:30.23 | mirak_ | ? |
| 23:30.29 | abrotman | simonrvn: did you mess up your request ? |
| 23:30.43 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: it did work, thanks :). what did you refer to, or are you some sed wiz? |
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| 23:31.06 | simonrvn | prince_jammys: no, ever mind |
| 23:31.11 | simonrvn | thanks though |
| 23:31.15 | simonrvn | abrotman: probably... |
| 23:31.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, "man sed" and "info sed" - dunno if that makes me an sed-wiz :-P |
| 23:31.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, of course, that still fails if your alexander starts with "H" |
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| 23:32.35 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
| 23:32.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, but I needed some sensible way to find the starting line - you cannot go back ... and "N" reads in an additional line, only then you can do multiline stuff... |
| 23:33.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you can't do that for each line either... |
| 23:33.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | so take care, this is kinda hackish |
| 23:33.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, hmm, actually perhaps you were right with perl |
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| 23:35.31 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: that's why i was trying with perl, but my perl sucks even more when it comes to multi-line stuff. |
| 23:35.36 | simonrvn | than my sed |
| 23:35.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh :) |
| 23:35.57 | prince_jammys | are there always the same number of lines between each section? |
| 23:36.35 | simonrvn | yeh. the files were partially generated already. |
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| 23:36.49 | prince_jammys | awk '(NR-1)%6>1' file ,but only if the file's exactly like what you pasted |
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| 23:37.22 | prince_jammys | and if i understood right. |
| 23:37.47 | simonrvn | of course i have to for loop that, and don't ask me how i went about constructing that for i in section ;). |
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| 23:38.11 | simonrvn | had* |
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| 23:38.49 | simonrvn | it's all committed and stuff, so |
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| 23:39.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | cross your fingers? |
| 23:39.18 | simonrvn | it worked fine :) |
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| 23:40.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, heh a correcter, if slow one would be this: tac file | sed '/^Here/ {N;N;s/\n\n.*//}' |tac |
| 23:40.54 | simonrvn | wonders if he has a problem visualising what the text says |
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| 23:41.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-P |
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| 23:41.26 | simonrvn | heh, yeh, i thought of tac for another instance of mass editing, but i found another way. |
| 23:41.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, here it's perfect |
| 23:41.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | because the main problem is that you can't go backwards |
| 23:42.00 | simonrvn | in a man/info page i mean |
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| 23:42.29 | simonrvn | mm |
| 23:43.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | wonders if there's a lait |
| 23:43.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | .... and what it would do :) |
| 23:45.03 | simonrvn | there's head... lait, well, i guess tail the file from the top :P |
| 23:45.31 | simonrvn | not very useful unless you were scanning for stuff at the beginning of a long file. |
| 23:46.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | deah :) |
| 23:47.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | tac |head is not as smart as tail | tac |
| 23:47.44 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 23:48.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... and would result in you being called a tac-head |
| 23:48.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | obviously |
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| 23:51.29 | simonrvn | thanks for all the help people, much appreciated. made this guy a happy dude. |
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| 23:52.09 | Brack10 | Hi there. How can I configure GDM so it does not show the Actions menu? Google isn't my friend today |
| 23:52.26 | Brack10 | I don't want people to be able to shut the box down from the login page |
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| 23:54.23 | simonrvn | um, there's a checkbox to disable the actions... hold |
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| 23:55.17 | simonrvn | Brack10: Local tab -> Menu Bar -> uncheck "Show Actions Menu" |
| 23:55.31 | Brack10 | on which applet? |
| 23:56.27 | simonrvn | gdmsetup |
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| 23:56.28 | Brack10 | nm found it |
| 23:56.28 | Brack10 | thanks |
| 23:56.35 | simonrvn | np |
| 23:57.32 | Brack10 | great I have to fix my xorg issues to commit the config since I can't see the OK button |
| 23:57.33 | Brack10 | lol |
| 23:58.07 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 23:58.16 | jetscreamer | what's up with the bot |
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| 23:58.46 | simonrvn | he's dead jim |
| 23:58.50 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
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| 23:59.14 | jetscreamer | yeah you can be bones |
| 23:59.19 | simonrvn | "that's impossible! i had the phaser on stun!" |
| 23:59.19 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 23:59.28 | Brack10 | oh man new 24 tonight |
| 23:59.38 | dvs | so? |
| 23:59.45 | Brack10 | is it nerdy that I watch it primarily for the Cisco telepresence? |
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