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| 00:00.26 | adb | kanechno ... |
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| 00:13.10 | mordy_ | hmm.. maybe this is my problem |
| 00:13.21 | mordy_ | fc-match fixed gives me thihs |
| 00:13.22 | mordy_ | 12x13ja.pcf.gz: "Fixed" "ja" |
| 00:13.50 | mordy_ | it's defaulting to a japanese font? it seems |
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| 00:16.10 | neur0x | hi |
| 00:18.25 | air_ | yaaay, i've got mc at last XD |
| 00:19.33 | mordy_ | lol don't know what you like that much about mc, but hey, if it makes oyu happy :P |
| 00:20.06 | air_ | i like mc 'cause it has the only sane console editor |
| 00:20.21 | mordy_ | you can use any editor you want with mc |
| 00:20.35 | air_ | i was too addicted to m$ previously |
| 00:20.49 | air_ | so vim just kills me |
| 00:20.51 | martian67 | air_, do you mean text editor? |
| 00:20.55 | air_ | yeah |
| 00:20.56 | martian67 | try nano |
| 00:20.58 | martian67 | or jed |
| 00:21.04 | martian67 | jed is actually quite nice |
| 00:21.05 | air_ | jed... gonna try |
| 00:21.19 | martian67 | looks alot like edit.exe actually |
| 00:21.19 | martian67 | lol |
| 00:21.33 | mordy_ | i don't know why debian's initrd doesn't have vi but does have nano |
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| 00:23.13 | air_ | is trying to understand how to copy/paste there |
| 00:23.16 | air_ | in jed |
| 00:24.05 | air_ | with shortcuts |
| 00:24.09 | Eulex | mordy_, well... you do real work from a busybox setup so often anyway :D |
| 00:24.33 | air_ | what does ^@ mean? |
| 00:24.49 | Eulex | ctrl-@ |
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| 00:25.08 | mordy_ | Eulex: usually when you're stuck in busybox, it's not a good thing. coupling that with a very unhelpful editor is even more agitating :P |
| 00:25.09 | martian67 | air_, use the menus |
| 00:25.11 | martian67 | if you have to |
| 00:25.20 | Eulex | mordy_, :D |
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| 00:25.28 | air_ | :)) i just didn't get ^@ from the first time |
| 00:25.33 | Enverex | Does anyone here know anything about the "TCP: Treason uncloaked!" message? Googling just brings up conflicting unauthoritive answers (and one which makes sense but was for an old and now fixed issue). |
| 00:25.33 | air_ | thanks |
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| 00:25.36 | Pryon | If you're going to use jed you might as well drink the kool-aid and go all the way to emacs :-) |
| 00:25.52 | Eulex | mordy_, tho I guess they want to keep its size down |
| 00:26.05 | martian67 | air_, if you think the keyboard shortcuts are lame |
| 00:26.08 | martian67 | blame emacs |
| 00:26.15 | Pryon | s/lame/awesome/ |
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| 00:26.20 | air_ | martian67, i actually like shortcuts |
| 00:26.30 | martian67 | then you might like emacs :) |
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| 00:26.36 | air_ | nooo |
| 00:26.46 | martian67 | air_, just take the time to learn it |
| 00:26.52 | martian67 | its not as bad as you are imagining |
| 00:26.54 | Pryon | Escape Meta Alt Control Shift |
| 00:27.29 | Pryon | air_: pick a powerful one (vi *or* emacs) and learn it well |
| 00:27.35 | air_ | mc |
| 00:27.48 | et | vim, not vi ;) |
| 00:27.59 | air_ | i had to learn a bit vim when screwed up xorg.conf |
| 00:28.29 | air_ | twas today |
| 00:28.39 | mordy_ | real men use ed |
| 00:28.42 | martian67 | air_, nano is almost exactly like mc's edit |
| 00:28.49 | martian67 | why dont you like nano lol |
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| 00:29.00 | martian67 | also mc's mouse integration is pretty nice |
| 00:29.06 | mordy_ | it is |
| 00:29.07 | air_ | i just opened it and found out that it's may be not exactly for me |
| 00:29.17 | mordy_ | what? nano? it's rather simple |
| 00:29.27 | air_ | prefers mc |
| 00:29.29 | mordy_ | becomes a PITA when you're editing huge config files wiht really long lines though |
| 00:29.35 | jasondavies | anyone know why inserting a new iptables rule doesn't seem to affect existing DNATed TCP connections? |
| 00:29.59 | air_ | what's PITA? |
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| 00:30.21 | adama_ | !pita |
| 00:30.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, pita is pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :) |
| 00:30.23 | jasondavies | I'm inserting the new rule like this: sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -i $LAN_IN -m mac --mac-source $1 -j ACCEPT |
| 00:30.39 | air_ | yeaah |
| 00:30.49 | air_ | vim is a pita |
| 00:31.04 | air_ | for me at least |
| 00:31.14 | adama_ | How can I add menu items to the "System - Administration" menu folder? "edit menus" does not work. |
| 00:32.42 | mordy_ | i think in /var/lib/menu-xdg/ you can find some interesting stuff |
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| 00:34.26 | pipegeek | Given a debian kernel source package, is there any easy way to build *just* the -headers deb, rather than building every package in debian/control? |
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| 00:34.58 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 00:35.14 | halflife08 | pipegeek: look at make-kpkg |
| 00:35.17 | man_in_shack | is there a way to build an amd64 kernel package for an i386 system? |
| 00:35.45 | air_ | what do you mean? |
| 00:35.48 | pipegeek | halflife08, right, but if I were to want to make a -headers package that matches an already-built kernel... |
| 00:36.12 | man_in_shack | i mean i386 debian, but athlon64 kernel |
| 00:36.20 | man_in_shack | since the cpu is athlon64 |
| 00:36.37 | adb | cross-build |
| 00:36.43 | adb | !cross-build |
| 00:36.43 | man_in_shack | yeah |
| 00:36.56 | pipegeek | halflife08, running make-kpkg nao |
| 00:37.06 | man_in_shack | i386 architecture package with amd64 kernel inside :) |
| 00:37.21 | air_ | it's something wasted |
| 00:37.55 | halflife08 | pipegeek: you should read the manpage for the options to build the headers package |
| 00:38.13 | Wyzard | man_in_shack: Debian provides pre-built kernels like that |
| 00:38.28 | Wyzard | man_in_shack: and if you're compiling your own, look in the settings for CPU type in menuconfig |
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| 00:38.58 | man_in_shack | Wyzard, menuconfig doesn't help with make-kpkg flags |
| 00:39.04 | man_in_shack | i think i've got it worked out |
| 00:39.11 | man_in_shack | will know in a few minutes |
| 00:39.24 | Wyzard | man_in_shack: Well, it'll still be an i386 package as far as Debian is concerned |
| 00:39.39 | Wyzard | otherwise you wouldn't be able to install it on an i386 Debian installation |
| 00:39.43 | man_in_shack | i'm building on an amd64 system for an i386 system |
| 00:40.00 | man_in_shack | since my amd64 system's cpu is a LOT faster |
| 00:40.00 | pipegeek | halflife08, already did. |
| 00:40.24 | Wyzard | oh, I see; I misunderstood the question |
| 00:40.44 | Wyzard | I thought you were trying to build something similar to the linux-image-*-amd64 packages that are available in the i386 repositories |
| 00:40.52 | Wyzard | (64-bit kernels for use with 32-bit userland) |
| 00:41.01 | man_in_shack | yes, that's what i'm trying to do :D |
| 00:41.08 | man_in_shack | but i have a 64bit userland on this system |
| 00:41.13 | man_in_shack | 32bit on the target system |
| 00:41.53 | Wyzard | I don't know how to build a package for a different architecture than the machine it's built on |
| 00:42.19 | Wyzard | but if the target system's CPU is 64-bit capable, it can't be that old and slow... I'd just build the package there |
| 00:42.36 | man_in_shack | well, i've got a script set up that builds a fully 32bit kernel already, using make-kpkg --arch and DEB_HOST_ARCH/DEB_BUILD_ARCH variables |
| 00:43.01 | man_in_shack | yeah, got it worked it |
| 00:43.03 | pipegeek | halflife08, ran fakeroot debian/rules kernel_headers instead, since it seems to take the same targets as make-kpkg, so as to make sure that the version numbers lined up |
| 00:43.11 | man_in_shack | *worked out |
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| 00:44.03 | man_in_shack | DEB_HOST_ARCH and DEB_BUILD_ARCH set to i386 to build an i386 package, --arch not set, since that tells the kernel's make config that it's 32bit only |
| 00:44.52 | Niklas- | Hey. I just made a new kernel, where i simply cp'ed the debian kernel into .config, changed kernel from 250hz to 1000hz, and make-kpkg. The kernel compiles as it should and creates .deb package, however when i install the .deb it doesn't generate an initrd image - how can that be? |
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| 00:45.45 | Wyzard | Niklas-: You have to use the --initrd option when running make-kpkg |
| 00:46.09 | man_in_shack | doesn't like initrd :P |
| 00:46.13 | Niklas- | Never used that option before and never had this issue - you sure it's required? |
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| 00:46.44 | man_in_shack | yes, you need to tell make-kpkg about initrd |
| 00:46.55 | Wyzard | yes, that's what tells make-kpkg to build a package whose postinst builds an initrd |
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| 00:47.29 | hell_ | that orks fine |
| 00:47.51 | Niklas- | It does make sense, but i've compiled dozens of kernels that uses initrd, and never had to use that option. But thanks, i'm gonna try it out =) |
| 00:47.57 | hell_ | next is to convert my root partition to ext4 |
| 00:48.02 | hell_ | how can i do that |
| 00:48.22 | Wyzard | Niklas-: I stopped building custom kernels about two years ago, so maybe things have changed since then, but I used make-kpkg for years before that and --initrd was always necessary |
| 00:48.29 | air_ | hell_ you're risky |
| 00:48.45 | Wyzard | I just converted my laptop's /home filesystem to ext4 |
| 00:48.55 | hell_ | air_, why is that |
| 00:49.03 | air_ | Wyzard, you're risky as hell_ |
| 00:49.12 | hell_ | i convert my home to ext4 |
| 00:49.14 | Wyzard | waiting for the Ubuntu release in a few days before converting the root filesystem, so that I'll have an ext4-capable liveCD available |
| 00:49.30 | air_ | is ext4 completely bugfixed? |
| 00:49.55 | hell_ | hmm |
| 00:50.03 | hell_ | it is buggy ? |
| 00:50.16 | Wyzard | air_: It's stable and no longer flagged as experimental |
| 00:50.22 | air_ | ah |
| 00:50.24 | Bambi_BOFH | i think theyve fixed the major loss of data on powerloss bug. |
| 00:50.28 | hell_ | yeah i heard that |
| 00:50.43 | Bambi_BOFH | still wont be using it for another 3-4 years though |
| 00:50.44 | Wyzard | There's a noteworthy "bug" relating to data loss in the event of an unclean shutdown, but I'm not too concerned about that on a laptop (which has a battery) |
| 00:50.45 | hell_ | someone said it is stable |
| 00:51.03 | Bambi_BOFH | Wyzard, thats where i'm most worried about it :) |
| 00:51.07 | Bambi_BOFH | anyhow. bbl |
| 00:51.08 | Wyzard | and it's slated to be fixed in 2.6.30 (Debian's 2.6.29 might have the patch already, actually) |
| 00:51.09 | air_ | may be i should convert this partition to ext4... |
| 00:51.35 | hell_ | but |
| 00:51.44 | hell_ | ext4 support in unstable kernel ? |
| 00:51.59 | hell_ | 2.6.29 is in unstable repo |
| 00:52.16 | hell_ | anyway |
| 00:52.29 | hell_ | i want to convert my root partition to ext4 |
| 00:52.30 | air_ | !ati |
| 00:52.30 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <fglrx>, <radeon> and <radeonhd>. See also <radeon vs radeonhd>. |
| 00:52.34 | hell_ | how can i dı that |
| 00:52.44 | air_ | !radeonhd |
| 00:52.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, radeonhd is the AMD/ATI <FOSS> display driver for the Radeon r5xx and r6xx family of chipsets (http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd). Packaged for Debian as 'xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd' in Lenny. For other ATI chipsets, use the 'ati' xorg driver or ask about <radeon>, <fglrx>. #radeonhd @ irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:53.12 | Wyzard | hell_: the basic way to do it is to just set the extents flag with tune2fs, I think, but that won't reallocate your existing files to use extents |
| 00:53.33 | Wyzard | hell_: and depending on when your ext3 was created, you might not get some of the other benefits like larger inodes |
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| 00:53.37 | hell_ | i read something about that |
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| 00:53.54 | hell_ | it said when you convert root to ext4 |
| 00:53.58 | Wyzard | hell_: The "complete" way to switch would be to back up all the files, create a fresh new filesystem using mkfs.ext4, and restore all the files |
| 00:54.03 | hell_ | old files remain same same structure etc. |
| 00:54.05 | Wyzard | hell_: To do that, you need a liveCD |
| 00:54.15 | Wyzard | or put the drive in another computer, or something like that |
| 00:54.18 | hell_ | liveCD |
| 00:54.22 | hell_ | debian has liveCD |
| 00:54.30 | hell_ | ? |
| 00:54.42 | Wyzard | The lenny liveCD has kernel 2.6.26, which doesn't have stable ext4 support (only experimental ext4dev) |
| 00:54.53 | Wyzard | There might be newer unofficial Debian-based liveCDs available |
| 00:54.54 | hell_ | yes |
| 00:55.14 | adb | air_: do > /msg dpkg radeonhd/whatever |
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| 00:55.19 | Wyzard | Ubuntu 9.04 will be released in a few days with 2.6.28; I plan to use that as my ext4 liveCD |
| 00:55.32 | hell_ | how can i be sure i completely take ext4 their profits and benefits |
| 00:55.35 | hell_ | sı ınb |
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| 00:55.44 | hell_ | i dont like ubuntu |
| 00:56.11 | hell_ | the ppl who prepare ubuntu doesnt release 9.04 but he/she planned 9.10 |
| 00:56.15 | Wyzard | It's not my choice as a desktop OS, but I don't mind using it as a resuce CD |
| 00:56.39 | Wyzard | Anyway, any liveCD with a recent enough kernel should suffice |
| 00:56.49 | hell_ | how can i understand i fully take benefits of ext4 |
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| 00:57.16 | Wyzard | If you create a new filesystem with mkfs.ext4, any files you write to it will use extents, delayed allocation, etc. |
| 00:57.29 | hell_ | yes |
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| 00:57.36 | hell_ | i use mkfs.ext4 |
| 00:57.50 | hell_ | what does delayed allcation mean ? What is it for |
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| 00:58.34 | adb | what does etc mean ? ;) |
| 00:58.45 | Wyzard | It means that when a program writes data to a file, the kernel will wait awhile before actually writing it to disk, so that it can buffer a larger amount of data to be written and make a better decision about where to put it on the disk |
| 00:58.46 | jpinx-eeepc | I have aptitude installed apache2 and PHP5 on lenny but there is no entry in /etc/init.d for apache2. What have I missed? |
| 00:58.53 | hell_ | etc mean blah blah :D |
| 00:59.09 | adb | thx |
| 00:59.22 | hell_ | hmm |
| 00:59.38 | Wyzard | It helps avoid fragmentation |
| 00:59.42 | rafuch0 | is there repo whit only pakeges for 64 bits procesosr? |
| 00:59.47 | hell_ | Wyzard, debian has ext4 package like fsck |
| 00:59.50 | hell_ | or something |
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| 01:00.06 | Wyzard | hell_: recent versions of e2fsck should support ext4 |
| 01:00.13 | hell_ | hmm |
| 01:00.48 | Wyzard | rafuch0: yes, the repositories used by any 64-bit installation of Debian |
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| 01:01.10 | hell_ | Wyzard, i see fsck.ext4 fsck.ext4dev what is the difference of these commands |
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| 01:01.39 | Wyzard | ext4dev is what ext4 was called when it was still in development, not yet ready for general use |
| 01:01.57 | hell_ | hmm |
| 01:01.58 | Wyzard | e.g. "mount -t ext4dev /dev/whatever" |
| 01:02.03 | wm4 | I'm mdist-upgrading my debian unstable system the first time after the kde4 switch... I wonder what I'll get |
| 01:02.13 | pipegeek | I guess my question is, there are a bunch of different kernel builds that are apparently generated from the same source package. I'm wondering how I'd go about building just one deb from just one of them. |
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| 01:03.14 | joaop | i installed tomcat5.5, but there is no configuration for localhost:8080 , it's using 8180 port, that's it? debian changed it? |
| 01:03.40 | Wyzard | hell_: fsck.ext2, fsck.ext3, fsck.ext4, and fsck.ext4dev are all the same file (they're hardlinked together) |
| 01:04.07 | hell_ | hmm |
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| 01:05.04 | Wyzard | just given different names so that the system can find an appropriate fsck program for any of those filesystems |
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| 01:07.04 | pango | Hello. what do you do in this case: USB CDRW driver detected in dmesg but no new device like /dev/sr0? |
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| 01:13.08 | wm4 | sometimes my wlan becomes unreachable from my linux system, and the only way to bring it back is to reboot linux... when this happens, dmesg also spams these messages: http://paste.linuxassist.net/214427 |
| 01:13.27 | wm4 | what could possibly be wrong? |
| 01:13.37 | pipegeek | well, I guess I'm going to sit through a full kernel build |
| 01:13.39 | pipegeek | ta t |
| 01:13.39 | pipegeek | a |
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| 01:16.21 | air_ | i don't know what else to do with that video mode :) |
| 01:16.28 | air_ | it's killing me with 60hz |
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| 01:16.54 | wm4 | air_: what, too low? |
| 01:17.01 | air_ | yeah, it's crt here |
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| 01:17.08 | darkbulb | I am having problems with debian network support. When I start the machine it calls out to 255.255.255.255 for a dhcp config and the ip of the dhcp server is 192.168.0.1 |
| 01:17.24 | phyberoptix | anyone here know how to add multiple ip's? |
| 01:17.35 | air_ | add to what? |
| 01:17.35 | darkbulb | how can I tell it to look for the right ip |
| 01:17.36 | wm4 | air_: I had to do some odd things to bring Xorg to use a higher frequency |
| 01:17.37 | piukeman | sorry, a quick question... i need to add some plgins to totem |
| 01:17.38 | phyberoptix | I just need someone to check my pastebin to make sure it is correct |
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| 01:17.46 | piukeman | where are them stored ? |
| 01:17.52 | air_ | wm4 what were those odd things? |
| 01:18.14 | darkbulb | phyberoptix you can add interfaces with a syntax of eth0:0 etc |
| 01:18.19 | phyberoptix | Yeah |
| 01:18.21 | phyberoptix | I know |
| 01:18.22 | wm4 | air_: I don't know if this applies to your case, but I had to add this to my xorg.conf device section: Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false" |
| 01:18.28 | phyberoptix | I just want to make sure what I got is correct |
| 01:18.28 | ``y7 | i would like to install debian on half of my hdd and ubuntu on the other half. during installation of debian; will these two operating systems conflict with each other? Also, is there anything special I need to know about setting them up? |
| 01:18.40 | wm4 | air_: also, I specified my freuqncy manually in the monitor section |
| 01:18.44 | phyberoptix | may I pm you darkbulb |
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| 01:18.54 | darkbulb | sure phyber |
| 01:18.58 | air_ | can you show your xorg.conf, wm4? |
| 01:19.20 | air_ | mine is http://pastebin.com/d3edd59a |
| 01:19.30 | piukeman | is there a way to add more plugins to totem |
| 01:19.38 | Alam_Lenny | if I setup more then one ServerLayout in xorg.conf, will Xorg use the first one by default? |
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| 01:20.17 | Shadow_Master | does installing KDE 4.1 require uninstalling KDE 3.5? |
| 01:20.21 | Shadow_Master | (lenny) |
| 01:20.40 | man_in_shack | grumbles at libata pata driver not working |
| 01:20.55 | wm4 | air_: here's a dumbed down version, but I don't rmemeber which lf the settings matter anymore: http://rafb.net/p/wSlygU54.html |
| 01:21.54 | air_ | seems like that could do the trick |
| 01:22.03 | wm4 | maybe |
| 01:22.11 | air_ | it's not nvidia here though |
| 01:22.21 | wm4 | zhen maybe not |
| 01:22.23 | wm4 | *then |
| 01:22.32 | adb | judd: versions partimage |
| 01:22.33 | judd | adb: partimage -- etch: 0.6.4-17 lenny: 0.6.7-1 squeeze: 0.6.7-1 sid: 0.6.7-2 |
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| 01:24.30 | wm4 | wow why does kde4 look so ugly |
| 01:24.43 | Shadow_Master | why... why am I asking here? sorry, forgot it was a backport |
| 01:25.03 | phyberoptix | Because gnome had plastic surgery and kde's mom raped him at a young age |
| 01:25.25 | man_in_shack | wm4, because kde has always looked ugly |
| 01:25.34 | man_in_shack | and it just gets more ugly as time goes on |
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| 01:26.04 | ``y7 | i would like to install debian on half of my hdd and ubuntu on the other half. will these two operating systems conflict with each other? Also, is there anything special I need to know about setting them up? |
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| 01:26.20 | air_ | man_in_shack, it gets very m$-way ugly |
| 01:26.22 | man_in_shack | ``y7, you can make them conflict if you really want to |
| 01:26.37 | ``y7 | the goal is to make them not conflict |
| 01:26.44 | man_in_shack | then it should be fine |
| 01:26.46 | man_in_shack | just partition it |
| 01:26.47 | ``y7 | will they automatically conflict with each other, or do i have to purposely try to make them? |
| 01:26.52 | ``y7 | ok, ty sir |
| 01:27.00 | air_ | gonna check my perversions on xorg.conf |
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| 01:30.01 | simonrvn | ``y7: they can share a swap partition, fyi. |
| 01:30.03 | ``y7 | while installing debian, i went to the manual partining part. my goal was to give debian 36 of the 74.4 GB available. Inside of the partion disks menu, there are two disks. I only want to play with one of them, how do i whether or not the other disk will be touched? |
| 01:31.24 | wm4 | where is the KDE controlcenter? |
| 01:31.32 | simonrvn | it will only edit the drive you tell it yo ediy, so it won't touch the other one unless you go playing there. |
| 01:31.59 | simonrvn | wm4: kde4? called 'systemsettings'. |
| 01:32.14 | ``y7 | my next options are to "undo changes to partions" and "finish partioning and write changes to disk" i have not yet selected either disk |
| 01:32.48 | mathieui | Hi, I have just installed lenny, it works well, but I am wondering how I can configure an usb connexion, is there any utility that could help me ? |
| 01:32.58 | simonrvn | ``y7: so go see what it has done already... |
| 01:33.11 | ``y7 | where do i go to see what you're telling me to go see? |
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| 01:33.59 | wm4 | simonrvn: thanks... but when starting this, the window is empty (except for a toolbar), is this an installation problem or should I ask in #kde? |
| 01:34.02 | simonrvn | should say 'go back' or something |
| 01:34.15 | simonrvn | wm4: i don't know. |
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| 01:34.33 | ``y7 | i have the go back option, but it takes me back to the screen "choose the next step in the install process" and i'm currently on partion disks |
| 01:34.49 | simonrvn | "partition" |
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| 01:35.15 | ``y7 | i just don't see where i can select which disk i want debian to install on |
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| 01:35.36 | simonrvn | choose manual way |
| 01:36.18 | air_ | it's killing me.... slovvly |
| 01:36.21 | man_in_shack | GAH |
| 01:36.30 | man_in_shack | there's no way to do this |
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| 01:37.11 | ``y7 | ok, i told it to go ahead and "finish partioning and write changes to disk" and then it tells me that "no root file system is define. please correct this from the partioning menu" and in the partioning menu, it tells me to use the space bar to select, and when i hit the space bar, it does nothing.... |
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| 01:37.45 | man_in_shack | fuckity |
| 01:37.52 | simonrvn | choose manual way |
| 01:38.02 | man_in_shack | kernel-headers has to be built with 32bit apps |
| 01:38.04 | freaky_t | hi all im getting this error with xinetd: |
| 01:38.05 | freaky_t | Apr 19 03:29:14 master xinetd[16052]: socket creation failed (Protocol not supported (errno = 93)). service = syscp |
| 01:38.09 | freaky_t | can anyone help me? :D |
| 01:38.11 | man_in_shack | kernel-image has to be built as 64bit |
| 01:39.15 | ``y7 | it's asking me whether i want the new partioning to be created at the beginning or the end of the available space. does this matter? |
| 01:39.25 | freaky_t | i tried google but nothing can help me :( |
| 01:40.04 | man_in_shack | ok, hopefully this will work |
| 01:40.43 | wm4 | oh god, kde is like windows... you have to edit the settings for hours to make it useful |
| 01:40.45 | wm4 | crap |
| 01:40.48 | mmind | ``y7, maybe you should install debian first using the automatic way, then use ubuntu's installer second |
| 01:41.05 | mmind | ubuntu makes it much easier |
| 01:41.21 | man_in_shack | wm4, this is why i like xfce :) |
| 01:41.21 | ``y7 | i've installed debian before, i've just never installed it on half the disk. i'd imagine after i get past this part, i'll be fine |
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| 01:41.44 | enouf | ``y7: listen; hit alt-f2 ; get a shell and type mount |
| 01:41.55 | wm4 | man_in_shack: I don't care about the KDE desktop, I only use some KDE applications |
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| 01:43.39 | enouf | ``y7: alt-f4 will have system messages .. maybe you wanted expert mode, or are you using that now? |
| 01:44.02 | ``y7 | i did the alt-f2 thing and typed mount, now i just have a prompt and no clue where to go from here |
| 01:44.17 | enouf | nothing was listed? |
| 01:44.23 | ``y7 | enouf, i just wanted the basic, simple installed, with only 50% of the disk being used |
| 01:44.25 | enouf | alt-f1 is the installer |
| 01:44.43 | enouf | that's no answer to any of my questions |
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| 01:44.50 | ``y7 | i have managed to partition in the disk to two equal halfs. now it wants me to select a disk to write the changes to |
| 01:45.01 | ``y7 | the problem is, i hit the space key on any of the items listed, and it does not select them |
| 01:45.10 | simonrvn | select the disk *FIRST* |
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| 01:45.44 | ``y7 | simonrvn, it does not allow me to select the disk |
| 01:45.48 | jetscreamer | back out and go back into the partitioner |
| 01:46.05 | ``y7 | jetscreamer, i think i'm at the partioner |
| 01:46.13 | jetscreamer | 'should' reread the disks |
| 01:46.17 | jetscreamer | back out? |
| 01:46.23 | jetscreamer | go 'back' in? |
| 01:46.33 | ``y7 | when i hit the "go back" it brings me back to the "debian install main menu" |
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| 01:46.46 | jetscreamer | and... |
| 01:47.01 | ``y7 | i have a list of options, it is currently on the "partition disks" option |
| 01:47.09 | ``y7 | the next option is "install the base system" |
| 01:47.19 | jetscreamer | go back into the partitioner |
| 01:47.24 | jetscreamer | 'should' reread the disks |
| 01:47.25 | ``y7 | done |
| 01:47.38 | ``y7 | "starting up the partitioner... scanning disks" |
| 01:48.00 | khaije1 | anyone using blueman ? |
| 01:48.03 | ``y7 | now the disk i wanted to use half of is no longer partitioned |
| 01:48.23 | ``y7 | you want me to take a picture of what i'm looking at and post the url for you to see? |
| 01:48.36 | _Tavo_ | Hello, I have a problem with Gnome in Lenny, every program that wants to open a file (say double clicking a downloaded file in firefox) shows an error message that says "location is not a folder" |
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| 01:49.29 | _Tavo_ | I can get the same error by doing in a terminal "nautilus file.pdf", but I don't know if these programs use that command to open a file |
| 01:49.38 | phyberoptix | Windows 7 reminds me of KDE |
| 01:49.40 | phyberoptix | lol |
| 01:50.06 | phyberoptix | I guess more like gnome |
| 01:50.11 | phyberoptix | and Vista is like KDE |
| 01:50.20 | phyberoptix | because vista sucks more |
| 01:50.22 | phyberoptix | like kde |
| 01:50.29 | jetscreamer | ``y7: (what an inconvientent name) so in the shell prompt (alt f2) what did you do before |
| 01:51.13 | khaije1 | _Tavo_: i think you're file associations are muxed up, so that gnome thinks it should use nautilus to open non-folder items |
| 01:51.25 | ``y7 | i figured it out, i have to partition 100% of the disk before it lets me continue. i was attempting to leave one part unpartitioned |
| 01:51.28 | khaije1 | i'm not sure off-hand how to fix it but that is a place to check |
| 01:52.25 | jetscreamer | you 'can' leave half of it raw |
| 01:52.35 | _Tavo_ | khaije1, any ideas? I have deleted the .gnome and .gnome2 directories with no results |
| 01:52.40 | ``y7 | now it's telling me that i have to create a partition for swap space, how much swap space do i want to have? |
| 01:52.50 | jetscreamer | but you can always del the second |
| 01:52.54 | ``y7 | jetscreamer, i was unable to figure out how to leave half of it raw |
| 01:53.42 | jetscreamer | well, you can always use a swap file instead of swap partition, but just some is good... depends |
| 01:53.51 | ``y7 | 1gb? |
| 01:54.20 | wm4 | kde4 is completely fucked |
| 01:54.23 | jetscreamer | you can.. 'probably' won't need it but i've done 3, i've done 1, i've done .5 ... 2g ram here |
| 01:54.27 | wm4 | gooddammnit |
| 01:54.29 | jetscreamer | kde4 works fine here |
| 01:55.16 | wm4 | how do I removew gradients? how do I make it use the standard mouse cursors? how do I make it not render so slowly? how can I make it to look and feel exactly like kde3? |
| 01:55.36 | wm4 | well well, it looks like I can't hate enough on it |
| 01:56.22 | jetscreamer | i don't like that they changed kmahjhongg |
| 01:56.26 | jetscreamer | i like the old one |
| 01:56.42 | wm4 | and why do all color schemes look so FUGLY gray? |
| 01:56.49 | jetscreamer | the new one looks better, but i like the old one |
| 01:57.24 | wm4 | oh wait, is there anything to make kde4 use the GTK theme/colors? |
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| 01:58.07 | wm4 | I know there's the other way around... |
| 01:58.16 | jetscreamer | used to be somepackage named something like gtk for kde |
| 01:58.46 | boghog | yeah you can have it both ways |
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| 01:59.30 | air_ | wow, it almost hits the limit |
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| 01:59.47 | boghog | seems to work pretty well too, I had the virtualbox gui (which uses qt4) on my gnome desktop and apart from the icons I could hardly tell it was not gtk |
| 01:59.49 | gueux | I am on testing. opera provides 3 mirrors: sarge edge and sid. what mirror shourd I use? |
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| 02:00.03 | joelnewnham | Goodevening |
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| 02:00.15 | gueux | -r+l |
| 02:00.24 | jetscreamer | guex those are old apparently... |
| 02:00.43 | jetscreamer | sarge is old old stable, etch is stable |
| 02:00.52 | jetscreamer | 'probably' sid but you might break it |
| 02:00.58 | Gadgetwizard | Good evening |
| 02:01.00 | jetscreamer | i'd try sid personally |
| 02:01.21 | jetscreamer | err etch is oldstable rather |
| 02:01.29 | pixelmonkey | I have a disk with some corruption on the root FS. I'd like to use dpkg/apt to ensure any missing files are restored from packages downloaded with apt. Anyone know how to do that? |
| 02:01.41 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 02:01.42 | dpkg | somebody said reinstall was aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
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| 02:01.53 | jetscreamer | the first |
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| 02:03.12 | pixelmonkey | jetscreamer, that's aimed at me? |
| 02:03.22 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 02:03.33 | pixelmonkey | jetscreamer, that's great, "aptitude reinstall" alone will do it? Amazing :-) |
| 02:03.39 | jetscreamer | no |
| 02:03.49 | jetscreamer | that's just part of the first |
| 02:04.00 | jetscreamer | aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install |
| 02:04.09 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 02:04.14 | jetscreamer | well maybe |
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| 02:04.37 | jetscreamer | aptitude reinstall '~i' .. new to me |
| 02:05.12 | jetscreamer | !factinfo reinstall |
| 02:05.12 | dpkg | reinstall -- last modified at Wed Feb 20 13:44:56 2008 by themill!~stuart@phoenix.chm.bris.ac.uk; it has been requested 185 times, last by jetscreamer, 3m 31s ago. |
| 02:05.46 | pixelmonkey | jetscreamer, that seems to be doing the right thing, it basically "reinstalls" all packages. |
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| 02:06.09 | jetscreamer | yeah themill isn't an idiot so ... :) |
| 02:08.16 | pixelmonkey | jetscreamer, that's great, I'll give that a shot. |
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| 02:09.25 | shu | hi, all, I'm new to debian, is there command or utils can re-configure network if I change my network card? thanks |
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| 02:11.09 | DavidProck1981 | i need /dev/fb0 |
| 02:11.28 | DavidProck1981 | the device dont exist |
| 02:11.39 | jetscreamer | !framebuffer |
| 02:11.39 | dpkg | methinks framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. if you're looking for the framebuffer console, see <fbcon>. X is also a framebuffer system, as is berlin. <blacklist> to negate it. |
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| 02:12.24 | DavidProck1981 | how do i set up frame buffer in xorg |
| 02:12.52 | adb | judd: versions debian |
| 02:12.53 | judd | adb: debian -- |
| 02:13.06 | adb | judd: versions debian testing |
| 02:13.07 | judd | adb: debian -- |
| 02:13.27 | enouf | !fbcon resolution |
| 02:13.27 | dpkg | i guess fbcon resolution is run "aptitude install hwinfo && hwinfo --framebuffer" as root, choose a mode from the resulting list of available modes. The mode will be named in hex, something like 0x305. Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and find the line that starts with "# kopt=" and add "vga=0x305" (substituting your chosen mode), then run "update-grub" and reboot. |
| 02:14.00 | Gadgetwizard | Chans are getting hit, Get down boys |
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| 02:14.20 | enouf | if you want your specific xorg video driver to use FB mode; man {radeon, ati, intel, whatever-it-is} |
| 02:14.32 | Gadgetwizard | Any /b/tards around? |
| 02:14.43 | DavidProck1981 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.20 | enouf | i recall seeing one driver option as "UseFB" or whatever |
| 02:15.37 | DavidProck1981 | Mode 0x0375: 1600x1200 (+4800), 24 bits |
| 02:15.37 | DavidProck1981 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.47 | adb | shu: ifdown -a , than , ifup -a , and take a look at > nano /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 02:15.49 | DavidProck1981 | what is the (+ |
| 02:16.21 | jetscreamer | nano -w |
| 02:16.57 | Shadow_Master | W: GPG error: http://ftp.cl.debian.org sid Release: Unknown error executing gpgv |
| 02:17.00 | Shadow_Master | ouch. |
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| 02:17.23 | enouf | !gpgv |
| 02:17.23 | dpkg | hmm... unknown error executing gpgv is what you will see from apt-get update if your clock is really wrong. Set it to approximately the right time using date -s "current time" (ask me about <date> for the current time if you don't know it!) and then apt-get update. Ask me about <ntp> for a better, more permanent solution. |
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| 02:18.14 | Shadow_Master | how do you measure "wrong"? |
| 02:18.41 | enouf | s/wrong/really wrong/ :-P |
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| 02:19.16 | Shadow_Master | I don't think it is _that_ wrong |
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| 02:19.18 | enouf | 1922 would fall into really wrong |
| 02:19.31 | enouf | but so might a day or so |
| 02:20.01 | Shadow_Master | well... is it compared to the remote server's clock= |
| 02:20.02 | enouf | perhaps even anything more than 2 hours |
| 02:20.27 | shu | adb: thanks |
| 02:20.50 | adb | yw |
| 02:22.11 | Gadgetwizard | Does anyone know how DOS works? |
| 02:22.34 | mmind | how it works? or how to use it? |
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| 02:24.27 | Gadgetwizard | hoe it works and how to perform |
| 02:25.14 | phyberoptix | who you calling a hoe |
| 02:25.20 | phyberoptix | =p |
| 02:25.39 | Gadgetwizard | how* |
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| 02:26.33 | khaije1 | can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong here? http://debian.pastebin.com/m399cd471 |
| 02:26.49 | khaije1 | i'm trying to make squeeze and sid available but off by default |
| 02:27.48 | Gadgetwizard | Nooo, 4chan is down :( |
| 02:28.14 | jpinx | Is it possible to use part of a USB device for an OS and the rest as a normal rw partition ? |
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| 02:29.13 | Wyzard | jpinx: An OS typically goes *on* a normal RW partition |
| 02:29.27 | Wyzard | jpinx: but USB storage devices can be partitioned just like ordinary hard drives, if that's what you mean |
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| 02:31.15 | jpinx | Wyzard: I'm familiar with dd'ing an OS or installer or liveOS onto a USB device, but the instructions always appear to insist on it being dd'd of=/dev/sda rather than of=/dev/sda1 |
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| 02:32.02 | jpinx | I'd like to put a live image onto 500Mbs of a 1GB stick and have the rest for normal data useage |
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| 02:32.15 | Wyzard | jpinx: I know about using dd to set up a bootable USB stick for running the Debian installer, but I've never heard of actually "installing" an OS that way |
| 02:32.24 | phyberoptix | jerbear where are you from? |
| 02:32.35 | jpinx | has 2 OS's on USB sticks |
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| 02:33.22 | jerbear | phyberoptix: US, North Carolina |
| 02:33.26 | jpinx | Wyzard: you can install an OS onto a USB stick easily enough and sort out the BIOS and grub to boot it |
| 02:33.28 | phyberoptix | what part of nc? |
| 02:33.47 | jerbear | phyberoptix: why do you ask? |
| 02:33.52 | phyberoptix | I live in NC |
| 02:34.21 | phyberoptix | Between Raleigh and Wilmington |
| 02:34.26 | jerbear | charlotte area |
| 02:34.29 | phyberoptix | ahhh |
| 02:34.40 | phyberoptix | I know a few people in that area |
| 02:34.44 | phyberoptix | in the car scene |
| 02:35.11 | jerbear | car scene? racing? |
| 02:35.16 | phyberoptix | yeah |
| 02:35.31 | phyberoptix | mostly imports and a few domestics |
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| 02:36.55 | pickcoder | phyberoptix: wilm here |
| 02:37.03 | phyberoptix | really |
| 02:37.21 | phyberoptix | I lived in Wilmmywood for a few years |
| 02:37.36 | jerbear | heh |
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| 02:37.50 | pickcoder | PPD moved their HQ downtown and then laid off a lot of employees |
| 02:37.57 | pickcoder | talk about wasted water-front property |
| 02:38.00 | phyberoptix | Either of you into the car scene? |
| 02:38.22 | pickcoder | car scene.. I barely have time to mow my lawn Saturdays |
| 02:38.29 | phyberoptix | lol |
| 02:38.37 | jerbear | i hate cars... i reluctantly drive one though |
| 02:38.55 | phyberoptix | I run a computer company where I live now |
| 02:38.55 | pickcoder | maybe 10 years ago when I still had my stringray |
| 02:39.05 | pickcoder | and long before I had kids |
| 02:39.20 | phyberoptix | pickcoder, you lived in wilmington awhile? |
| 02:39.31 | pickcoder | since dec 96 |
| 02:39.32 | phyberoptix | You know where Warsaw is? |
| 02:39.40 | pickcoder | yes, but this is really O/T |
| 02:39.41 | jerbear | poland? |
| 02:39.52 | phyberoptix | Thats where my company is |
| 02:40.08 | jerbear | that's a long commute |
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| 02:40.26 | phyberoptix | not poland lol |
| 02:40.53 | jerbear | ha... there's a warsaw, nc |
| 02:40.57 | ultraj6 | how can i use debian to virtualize windows machines? |
| 02:41.17 | pickcoder | ultraj6: xen? |
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| 02:41.56 | mmind | ultraj6: virtualbox, vmware, xen, and kvm are the most popular options |
| 02:42.07 | mmind | depending on your specific needs |
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| 02:43.01 | ultraj6 | i would like to be able to experiment with windows domains |
| 02:43.33 | ultraj6 | so requirements would be to be able to run windows server OSs and workstation OSs |
| 02:44.12 | ultraj6 | and then also what kind of hardware should i use |
| 02:44.20 | mmind | well, virtualbox can do that, and requires no significant change to the host system (just install the package) |
| 02:44.31 | pickcoder | something with hardware virtualization |
| 02:44.46 | pickcoder | and enough cores and RAM to make M$ happy |
| 02:44.55 | mmind | hardware virtualization isn't really necessary if you're just experimenting, though |
| 02:44.58 | ultraj6 | like quad cores with 16 gigs of ram |
| 02:45.25 | mmind | i ran vista in virtualbox on my pentium3 laptop with 1G ram |
| 02:45.32 | ultraj6 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.39 | ultraj6 | how did that run lol |
| 02:45.52 | mmind | not too great... but does vista ever run well? |
| 02:46.08 | pickcoder | if you give it plenty of silicon and power |
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| 02:46.50 | ultraj6 | how can i incorporate clustering into this |
| 02:47.27 | mmind | i have no experience with that, but i imagine you can just run your clustering software on several VMs |
| 02:48.13 | ultraj6 | i think it would be cool if you could cluster say 10 computers together and use the cluster as the host OS |
| 02:48.39 | mmind | oh, you want to have multiple hosts in a cluster? |
| 02:48.48 | mmind | i don't know how that would be accomplished |
| 02:49.27 | ultraj6 | so you could just run the virtual machines on the cluster |
| 02:49.55 | ultraj6 | it would be just 1 host |
| 02:50.10 | ultraj6 | i don't know im just brainstorming |
| 02:50.18 | jpinx | a single cluster host makes sense for lots of VMs |
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| 02:51.19 | ultraj6 | to make it highly available |
| 02:51.26 | adb | one mobo 8x or 16x CPU + 64/128 GB RAm |
| 02:51.41 | jpinx | vista might be a bit difficult on a too-small VM |
| 02:51.50 | pickcoder | how is a single host highly available when the P/S dies on it? |
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| 02:52.21 | ultraj6 | i dunno make the master node redundant somehow |
| 02:52.30 | pickcoder | I'm still teetering between VMs and real machines |
| 02:52.41 | kc8pxy | heya guys.. been a LOOOONG time since i was here. I've not used debian since potato, so i need some help getting some packages working. |
| 02:52.49 | ultraj6 | ive just been playing with vmware's virtual server |
| 02:52.53 | jpinx | VM's is the future |
| 02:53.07 | ultraj6 | thats about my extent and i want to try out some linux options |
| 02:53.11 | jpinx | virtualbox was a breeze to work withj |
| 02:53.17 | pickcoder | jpinx: yeah when everyone switches to backplane setups with multi-redundant power rails |
| 02:53.18 | ultraj6 | cool |
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| 02:53.48 | WilliamBlake | any thoughts on how i should convert my 1TB external hard drive from fat32 to ntfs? thanks. |
| 02:54.09 | pickcoder | WilliamBlake: don't? |
| 02:54.13 | pickcoder | why do you want to? |
| 02:54.13 | jpinx | I'd never thought of clustering for the host - but it might just work if you can sort out redundancy |
| 02:54.30 | pickcoder | jpinx: drdb? |
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| 02:54.57 | jpinx | ultraj6: what hardware were you thinking of clustering? |
| 02:55.07 | gewt | is there a simpel way to start everything that would nromally start at boot? |
| 02:55.07 | WilliamBlake | pickcoder: fat32 does not support files larger than 4GB, and im downloading HD movies .... 8GB |
| 02:55.09 | gewt | i broke my vps and had to kill everything |
| 02:55.10 | kc8pxy | jpinx: there are still some things you can't run virtual. asterisk, with dahdi, does not do well with vm/vbox. |
| 02:56.03 | jpinx | kc8pxy: yes - but things will develop |
| 02:56.14 | pickcoder | WilliamBlake: I've never attempted such a task without backing up the data and just reformatting |
| 02:56.18 | ultraj6 | i don't know jpinx, im just brainstorming |
| 02:56.18 | gewt | is there a simpel way to start everything that would nromally start at boot? |
| 02:56.26 | gewt | like every init script that runs at boot? |
| 02:56.26 | jpinx | pickcoder: drdb looks interesting - hadn't seen that before |
| 02:56.40 | kc8pxy | jpinx: it never will.. i don't see how it can. |
| 02:56.42 | WilliamBlake | pickcoder: yeah, i cant. its 800GB |
| 02:56.44 | jpinx | ultraj6: me too - now;) |
| 02:56.48 | enouf | reboot |
| 02:56.52 | mmind | gewt, execute everything in /etc/rc3.d/ ? |
| 02:56.58 | ultraj6 | cool glad to spread the itch lol |
| 02:56.59 | mmind | or whatever runlevel you prefer |
| 02:57.06 | enouf | rcSd |
| 02:57.22 | enouf | rcS.d won't be rerun |
| 02:57.29 | pickcoder | jpinx: there's a higher-level project somewhere online that uses drdb as a base tech |
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| 02:57.41 | ajavid | que paso |
| 02:57.42 | pickcoder | some kind of filesystem setup |
| 02:57.54 | jpinx | pickcoder: does it include raiding the HDD's ? |
| 02:58.12 | gewt | can I execute everything there |
| 02:58.16 | gewt | withotu having to do it manually? |
| 02:58.17 | enouf | you could check into telinit for rereading /etc/inittab |
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| 02:59.20 | mmind | gewt, if you just killed processes, i'm pretty sure you can `sudo /etc/rc3.d/*` |
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| 02:59.29 | pickcoder | I'm trying to find it |
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| 03:00.12 | enouf | which processes are still running? i have to imagine init, and a few others, how did you break it? -- runlevels 2-5 are all the same via default |
| 03:00.14 | gewt | b4@sapphire:~/inspircd-dev$ sudo /etc/rc3.d/* start |
| 03:00.14 | gewt | Usage: /etc/init.d/sysklogd {start|stop|reload|restart|force-reload|reload-or-restart} |
| 03:00.20 | gewt | enouf, i killed everythign but init |
| 03:01.23 | gewt | b4@sapphire:~/inspircd-dev$ sudo /etc/rc3.d/* |
| 03:01.23 | gewt | Usage: /etc/init.d/sysklogd {start|stop|reload|restart|force-reload|reload-or-restart} |
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| 03:01.56 | kamp2tux_ | my gnome panel missing, but when i logon with failsafe session, the panel is back, how do enable my panel back using normal logon |
| 03:02.06 | gewt | wtf is worng there? |
| 03:02.13 | gewt | why is uit throwing up an error? |
| 03:02.25 | mmind | gewt, the shell is expanding the asterisk, then tacking the "start" at the end |
| 03:02.29 | gewt | fun |
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| 03:03.12 | gewt | mmind, now how do I get it to not add the start? |
| 03:03.17 | mmind | i guess you'd have to `for f in ls; do $f start; done` |
| 03:03.29 | mmind | or something. i can never remember bash loop syntax |
| 03:03.50 | gewt | sapphire:/etc/rc3.d# for f in ls; do $f start; done |
| 03:03.50 | gewt | ls: cannot access start: No such file or directory |
| 03:04.03 | mmind | for f in `ls`; do $f start; done |
| 03:04.12 | pickcoder | I have no clue what it was called... |
| 03:04.33 | pickcoder | I talked to someone in #postfix a while back regarding mail server clustering and HA |
| 03:04.36 | gewt | thanks |
| 03:04.41 | mmind | no prob |
| 03:04.42 | jpinx | np pickcoder i'm off to bed |
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| 03:05.35 | illikawn | how can I get iceape on debian? |
| 03:06.43 | adb | judd: versions iceape |
| 03:06.43 | judd | adb: iceape -- etch: 1.0.13~pre080323b-0etch3 etch-security: 1.0.13~pre080614i-0etch1 sid: 1.1.13-1 |
| 03:07.03 | mmind | dpkg, iceape lenny? |
| 03:07.21 | bluethundr__ | hey superbrains.. helping my girlfriend with her comp sci homework... forgive the sillyness of the situation I really wanna try to help her.. BUT ok.. 1234 subscript 10 expressed as hex.... how? been a while since my own comp sci days.... |
| 03:07.23 | adb | not |
| 03:07.26 | dpkg | Iceape, the unbranded version of Mozilla Seamonkey for Debian is not in Lenny. See http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-information.html#mozilla-security and http://bugs.debian.org/511477 |
| 03:08.18 | bluethundr__ | surprised at how much I remembered about logic gates! haven't done that crap in like 15 years! |
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| 03:10.38 | ``y7 | during the installation of debian, it brings up a msg saying "it seems that this new installation is the only OS on this computer. if so, it should be safe to install the grub boot loader to the master boot record of your first hdd." how do i know which hdd it's talking about? |
| 03:10.44 | kc8pxy | anyone have some time to help me get shorewall working on a lenny install i just made? i've installed shorewall on other distro's, and configuring it to run with my routing config seems different on debian. some bits of shorewall.conf look weird to me. |
| 03:10.57 | wm4 | how do I remove this "accessibility" icon from the system tray gnome-settings-daemon is showing? |
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| 03:14.55 | bluethundr__ | awwww c'mon! I don't even get made fun of for that question? yeesh! IRC ain't what it used to be!!! ;-) |
| 03:16.08 | ghang | i would like to know ttf fonts in chinese what is the apt-get package ? |
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| 03:17.36 | ``y7 | ok, i just got done installing debian, i rebooted and selected the proper booting device and debian does not load up. i get a flashing cursor. any ideas? |
| 03:17.42 | wm4 | oh god, I'm updating my system never again |
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| 03:17.54 | wm4 | all the time I have to deal with KDE and Gnome crap because they changed |
| 03:18.01 | wm4 | and try to get them back to how they were |
| 03:18.16 | wm4 | same with some other things, like the nvidia graphics driver |
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| 03:18.52 | lordnazgul | any way i can install etch on a system, or am i forced to lenny |
| 03:21.17 | ``y7 | gnome, kde, lxde or xfce? |
| 03:21.48 | Sashi | how much ram does |
| 03:21.52 | Sashi | debian require min install |
| 03:22.09 | Sashi | like 16? |
| 03:22.12 | adb | 64 ? |
| 03:22.12 | Sashi | not even? |
| 03:22.21 | Sashi | like the base install |
| 03:22.23 | Sashi | nothing else |
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| 03:25.08 | wm4 | how to remove all traces of kde3? |
| 03:25.46 | ryanCH | what do you guys think? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Where%27s+Tux%3F?content=103080 |
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| 03:26.23 | ryanCH | wm4: try, "apt-get remove kde-desktop" |
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| 03:26.43 | wm4 | ryanCH: couldn't find the package |
| 03:26.58 | adb | apt-get remove kde* |
| 03:26.59 | enouf | !remove kde |
| 03:26.59 | dpkg | it has been said that remove kde is aptitude purge kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data |
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| 03:28.27 | enyawix | what is VirtualBox-bin not in debian? |
| 03:28.41 | enyawix | why* |
| 03:28.44 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i'm trying to bypass the password request in firestarter so i could load the program as soon as the system loads automatically but when i add this line: mimiloon ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter, it still asks for the root password when starting the program; can anyone please tell me what i'm doing wrong and resolve this issue? |
| 03:29.10 | Rusty1 | http://damnsmalllinux.org/ comes to mind , Sashi |
| 03:29.23 | mimiloon | *to sudoers |
| 03:29.24 | Sashi | is that based on debian? |
| 03:29.40 | wm4 | could it be that kdelibs4c2a is only for kde3, but not kde4? (I want to remove kde3, and keep kde4) |
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| 03:30.36 | Rusty1 | Sashi: take a look , it was at one time |
| 03:31.14 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache show kdelibs4c2a |
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| 03:32.01 | wm4 | enouf: doesn't tell much... |
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| 03:41.16 | enyawix | sorry i found the package |
| 03:41.30 | enyawix | downloading |
| 03:41.33 | jetscreamer | designer computers for the super-rich |
| 03:41.41 | jetscreamer | whaddya think |
| 03:42.32 | jetscreamer | a cray in every home! |
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| 03:42.40 | Strost | hello! |
| 03:42.50 | enyawix | hi |
| 03:42.58 | adb | jetscreamer: heh |
| 03:43.05 | Strost | need a way to execute a bash script after a user connects over ssh |
| 03:43.17 | Strost | as in before he gets to his/her shell |
| 03:43.26 | Strost | they bash script would execute. |
| 03:43.40 | Strost | i've seen it before , its possible , just dont know how. |
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| 03:43.48 | Strost | some suggestions pls. |
| 03:44.21 | jetscreamer | /etc/bash_something or ~/.bashrc |
| 03:44.31 | jetscreamer | depending on global or per user |
| 03:44.39 | jetscreamer | or is it profile |
| 03:44.53 | fujimitsu | i liked what they did for kde 4.2.2 that am even trying it on the laptop too |
| 03:44.58 | jetscreamer | !startup |
| 03:44.58 | dpkg | somebody said init.d was where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc> <rc.local> <runlevel> |
| 03:45.10 | jetscreamer | not that |
| 03:45.30 | sepult | why is squid using invoke-rc.d ? |
| 03:45.46 | Strost | no not init.d |
| 03:46.01 | jetscreamer | /etc/bash.bashrc for global |
| 03:46.03 | enouf | invoke-rc.d only applies to current runlevel |
| 03:46.07 | Strost | ~/.bash_profile ? |
| 03:46.08 | apt | source ~/.bashrc |
| 03:46.17 | enouf | they're maintainer tools anyways |
| 03:46.20 | Strost | ty ill check that |
| 03:46.21 | jetscreamer | ~/.bashrc for local |
| 03:48.15 | jetscreamer | s/local/per_user/ |
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| 03:48.31 | mimiloon | i'm trying to bypass the password request in firestarter so i could load the program as soon as the system loads automatically but when i add this line: "mimiloon ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" in sudoers, it still asks for the root password when starting the program; can anyone please tell me what i'm doing wrong and resolve this issue? |
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| 03:49.17 | enouf | 1st off; sudo uses the user's passwd, not root's |
| 03:49.29 | enouf | !sudoers |
| 03:49.29 | dpkg | sudoers is probably You can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for sudo by adding a line like this to /etc/sudoers: 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' (no quotes, replacing user with your username). see also <visudo> For more security, please study the man pages from 'apropos sudo' |
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| 03:50.12 | Strost | jetscreamer those seem to be the files im looking for |
| 03:50.12 | freaky_t | Apr 19 03:29:14 master xinetd[16052]: socket creation failed (Protocol not supported (errno = 93)). service = syscp <-- can anybody help me? i've added a service in /etc/services and i added a file in /etc/xinitd.d/conf.d/syscp the protocol line says tcp i dont understand why i get this error |
| 03:50.13 | Strost | but none of them have cat /etc/motd |
| 03:50.25 | jetscreamer | mimiloon: mine had a % in front of my username |
| 03:50.32 | jetscreamer | s/had/has/ |
| 03:50.50 | jetscreamer | and i'm in sudoers group.. are you? |
| 03:50.57 | jetscreamer | not positive it matters |
| 03:51.37 | freaky_t | can someone help me please? :) |
| 03:51.51 | enouf | mine has no % in front of user's name, but then again, i also use it for ALL |
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| 03:52.13 | mimiloon | jetscreamer: i'm not sure, it's default settings |
| 03:52.41 | enouf | mimiloon: is there also a line for root in /etc/sudoers? |
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| 03:53.33 | enouf | and, .. IIRC firestarter runs from /etc/rcS.d/ ? see if there's anything you can do in /etc/default/* about the way it starts |
| 03:53.50 | enouf | your user shouldn |
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| 03:53.56 | Strost | jetscreamer : if i just add the command at the end of the file it works. but is that how it should be done ? |
| 03:54.04 | enouf | your user shouldn't be launching it, by then it's too late |
| 03:55.14 | SWMTBot | How can I get a concise list of installed packages, along with the category (web, perl, etc.) of each package? |
| 03:55.44 | mimiloon | enouf: i'm not sure, i only added this line of command in sudoers; i didn't touch sudoers other wise |
| 03:56.40 | jetscreamer | Strost: that's what i do |
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| 03:58.28 | Tangotango | basically, I want dpkg --get-selections with an extra column... |
| 03:58.31 | avu | Tangotango, aptitude search '~i' -F '%p %s' for example |
| 03:59.09 | Tangotango | avu: Thanks, that works great! |
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| 04:16.08 | SgtNezzie | is there a way to install ssh on debian |
| 04:16.28 | kingsley | SgtNezzie: Yes. |
| 04:16.35 | SgtNezzie | can i use apt-get? |
| 04:16.48 | kingsley | SgtNezzie: Yes. |
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| 04:17.03 | SgtNezzie | can you tell me the package or how i search for packages |
| 04:18.10 | kingsley | SgtNezzie: Yes. You can install ssh by logging in as "root" and typing "apt-get install ssh". |
| 04:19.17 | kingsley | SgtNezzie: You may also be interested a package called "synaptic", which has a user-friendly interface for searching for packages, as well as installing them. |
| 04:19.39 | SgtNezzie | oooo |
| 04:19.39 | kingsley | SgtNezzie: Does that make sense? |
| 04:19.42 | SgtNezzie | thx |
| 04:19.55 | kingsley | You're welcome. |
| 04:20.45 | gueux | mutt says me "Error opening terminal: rxvt-unicode." |
| 04:20.47 | liable | its not ssh, its openssh-client |
| 04:20.50 | liable | or server |
| 04:20.56 | gueux | and it works with xterm |
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| 04:22.19 | kingsley | liable: ssh is a metapackage that installs both the OpenSSH client and server. |
| 04:22.55 | kingsley | gueux: Have you searched google's indices for an answer? |
| 04:23.43 | liable | kingsley: oh, i never actually noticed that |
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| 04:25.55 | gueux | kingsley: sure |
| 04:26.12 | gueux | there were old bugs |
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| 04:26.23 | gueux | but I haven't found a solution |
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| 04:26.49 | Strost | jetscreamer : if i add it system wide it only works as root , whys that? |
| 04:26.53 | Strost | hmm |
| 04:27.00 | gueux | I think the problem can be that there are very few colors in my version of rxvt-unicode |
| 04:27.07 | Strost | could be that these are old users. |
| 04:27.17 | gueux | but I don't remember how to check that |
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| 04:29.10 | bees | hi, i've been hit by bug #524602, (the acpid package will not upgrade, downgrade, uninstall, reinstall, thus my laptop is in a broken state without a touchpad or wifi) |
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| 04:29.47 | bees | does anyone know how to force the removal of an inconsistent package? |
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| 04:31.24 | DavidProck1981 | !xorg |
| 04:31.24 | dpkg | X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.3. Ask me about <install x> if you are using etch or newer, or <get xorg> if you are using sarge. Ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. http://wiki.x.org/ #xorg @ irc.freenode.net. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.Org_Server and perhaps http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce |
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| 04:31.46 | vadi | anyone could help me with the following problem? |
| 04:32.09 | vadi | when I connect to my vps thru ssh i can see my files, mp3 files play nicely on my movie player (not vlc though), my pictures unfortunately have to be downloaded and then i can open them. can it be done automatically without downloading? |
| 04:32.52 | adb | DavidProck1981: what about ? : /msg dpkg about xorg |
| 04:33.15 | Wyzard | vadi: That sounds like you're saying you can play MP3 files through an ssh connection, which doesn't make much sense |
| 04:33.27 | vadi | wyzard, but i can |
| 04:33.38 | vadi | how can you explain it? |
| 04:33.58 | bees | vadi: are you using Gnome/KDE, stable/testing/sid? |
| 04:34.00 | Wyzard | vadi: It's not clear what you mean, then |
| 04:34.09 | vadi | bees, testing |
| 04:34.14 | vadi | gnome |
| 04:34.19 | DavidProck1981 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is noting like it used to be |
| 04:34.19 | Wyzard | vadi: Are you talking about command-line ssh to get a shell, or something else? |
| 04:34.40 | bees | Wyzard: you can play mp3's over ssh thanks to gnomevfs/gvfs |
| 04:34.46 | vadi | wyzard, nautilus |
| 04:34.56 | DavidProck1981 | it pritty much just for my lang and kybd stuff and nothing else |
| 04:35.06 | Strost | how do you source /etc/bash.bashrc in /etc/profile ? |
| 04:35.20 | Wyzard | bees: I know, but "when I connect to my vps thru ssh" didn't say anything about gvfs or whatever, so it's not clear what he's trying to do |
| 04:35.29 | vadi | bees, can i do it with pictures as well? |
| 04:35.58 | twobitsprite | Strost: "source /etc/bash.bashrc" |
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| 04:36.20 | bees | vadi: depends on a few things. you should definately be able to with gnome software such as Image Viewer (eog). |
| 04:36.42 | Strost | :S |
| 04:36.42 | vadi | bees, with image viewer, i can't |
| 04:36.47 | bees | with gvfs, other programs should be able to do it too |
| 04:37.01 | Strost | twobitsprite : ok if i add that at the end of the file ? |
| 04:37.08 | bees | vadi: hmm, worksforme :/ |
| 04:37.09 | vadi | i need to download them on my desktop and then open them with image viewer |
| 04:37.17 | twobitsprite | Strost: sure |
| 04:37.20 | DavidProck1981 | how can i configure xorg to where it will ask me stuff about my video card/moniter |
| 04:37.30 | Wyzard | vadi: I just tried it and it works for me |
| 04:37.34 | vadi | it's not a big problem but would be great if it could be done automatically |
| 04:37.36 | Wyzard | I'm running sid though; dunno about lenny |
| 04:37.42 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i'm trying to bypass the password request in firestarter so i could load the program as soon as the system loads automatically but when i add this line: "mimiloon ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" in sudoers (i added myself to sudoers), it still asks for the root password when starting the program; can anyone please tell me what i'm doing wrong and resolve this issue? |
| 04:37.47 | twobitsprite | Strost: what shell do you plan to have running the .profile? are you talking about CSH or something? |
| 04:37.51 | Wyzard | double-clicked on a remote .png image in nautilus, and it came up in eog |
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| 04:38.57 | vadi | bees, i guess it's doable but have no clue how to make it work |
| 04:39.04 | Strost | twobitsprite : its a bash shell if thats what your asking , but what im trying to do here is |
| 04:39.13 | Strost | to execute a command when a user connects over ssh |
| 04:39.29 | Strost | added the command to bash.bashrc |
| 04:39.46 | Strost | but wasnt working the command was only executing when i connect as root |
| 04:40.00 | Strost | hope source /etc/bash.bashrc does the trick |
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| 04:40.51 | DavidProck1981 | hello?.. |
| 04:40.55 | Strost | lovely. :) all working now |
| 04:40.59 | bees | vadi: do you get any sort of error when you try to open the image in eog? and what about other filetypes such as text files, can you open them? |
| 04:41.17 | kingsley | Strost: If i recall correctly, the end of bash's man page describes several files that bash automatically executes, but under varying circumstances. |
| 04:41.25 | DavidProck1981 | i need to tayler xorg to match my hardware |
| 04:41.45 | vadi | bees, yes, it says ssh protocol is not recognized or something .. let me check once again |
| 04:42.08 | Strost | kingsley : if i add a command to etc/profile would it run on all users at start ? |
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| 04:42.23 | freaky_t | Apr 19 03:29:14 master xinetd[16052]: socket creation failed (Protocol not supported (errno = 93)). service = syscp <-- can anybody help me? i've added a service in /etc/services and i added a file in /etc/xinitd.d/conf.d/syscp the protocol line says tcp i dont understand why i get this error can someone help me please? :( im sittin in front of this since 2 hours :( |
| 04:42.26 | freaky_t | or longer |
| 04:42.27 | twobitsprite | Strost: just read the man page :P |
| 04:42.29 | vadi | bees, it says: No images found in 'ssh:/myserver |
| 04:42.39 | Strost | or does it have to be in bashcr and source it in /etc/profile? any idea ? |
| 04:43.07 | vadi | bees, that happens when i click on an image |
| 04:43.21 | bees | vadi: can you see if any gvfs processes are running? |
| 04:43.22 | Strost | twobitsprite : sourced it the way you said , it works |
| 04:43.41 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i'm trying to bypass the password request in firestarter so i could load the program as soon as the system loads automatically but when i add this line: "mimiloon ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" in sudoers (i added myself to sudoers), it still asks for the root password when starting the program; can anyone please tell me what i'm doing wrong and resolve this issue? |
| 04:43.44 | Strost | but im not sure if this is the correct way to do it. |
| 04:43.49 | Strost | :( |
| 04:44.26 | kingsley | Strost: The end of bash's man page describes /etc/profile as "The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells". |
| 04:44.26 | twobitsprite | Strost: #bash might be a better place to ask if you're worried about doing it the "right"way |
| 04:45.35 | DavidProck1981 | Exit X / stop any <DM> ... WHAT does <DM> stand for ??? |
| 04:45.47 | Strost | k |
| 04:45.53 | Strost | kingsley : that man is damn long |
| 04:45.54 | Strost | man page* |
| 04:45.59 | adama_ | display manager |
| 04:46.01 | vadi | bees, gvfs means a lot of things |
| 04:46.04 | twobitsprite | however, I would imagine that just moving the command into the /etc/profile instead of putting it in bash.bashrc and sourcing that, would be a better qway |
| 04:46.09 | DavidProck1981 | oh thanks |
| 04:46.10 | adama_ | kdm, gdm DavidProck1981 |
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| 04:46.36 | twobitsprite | Strost: shift-G, then page up a couple times to see the "files"section |
| 04:46.59 | bees | vadi: i'm not 100% sure, but I think that Gnome's gvfs transition is incomplete in current testing. E.g. nautilus 2.20 does not use it. |
| 04:47.28 | bees | vadi: i'm running testing as well, but with nautilus 2.24 out of sid. this solves a number of issues with gvfs integration |
| 04:47.50 | vadi | bees, i'll check my version |
| 04:48.24 | freaky_t | is nobody familiar with xinetd? oO |
| 04:48.39 | mimiloon | i'm trying to bypass the password request in firestarter so i could load the program as soon as the system loads automatically but when i add this line: "mimiloon ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" in sudoers (i added myself to sudoers), it still asks for the root password when starting the program; can anyone please tell me what i'm doing wrong and resolve this issue? |
| 04:48.58 | vadi | bees, i'm running 2.2 |
| 04:49.14 | bees | vadi: you mean 2.20? |
| 04:49.19 | vadi | shoyes |
| 04:49.20 | vadi | yes |
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| 04:49.54 | vadi | should i upgrade, and if so, will it mess up other things in my system? |
| 04:50.06 | bees | vadi: i can't guarantee that upgrading to 2.24 will solve the problem, but i think its your best chance. |
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| 04:50.41 | vadi | bees, are you running sid? |
| 04:50.47 | bees | vadi: well, using aptitude, just upgrade nautilus, and see what dependencies it pulls in. |
| 04:51.17 | bees | vadi: i'm running testing, and i pulled nautilus from sid. i haven't had any problems, your mileage may vary however |
| 04:51.57 | vadi | bees, i'll try it out tomorrow - thanks for help |
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| 04:52.07 | Strost | hmm |
| 04:52.27 | Strost | twobitsprite : i just created a new file called it /etc/start |
| 04:52.42 | Strost | that only has one command |
| 04:52.45 | Strost | and sourced it |
| 04:52.48 | Strost | now lets see if it works |
| 04:53.34 | twobitsprite | Strost: why not just put the command itself in your /etc/profile? |
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| 04:53.58 | bees | vadi: or you could wait about 6 days, and nautilus might complete its transition to testing: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=nautilus |
| 04:54.03 | Strost | twobitsprite : i really dont know. |
| 04:54.18 | Strost | the comments of those files dont help much |
| 04:54.18 | kupo | I'm doing a usb install of debian and following some instructions at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-flexible |
| 04:54.30 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i'm trying to bypass the password request in firestarter so i could load the program as soon as the system loads automatically but when i add this line: "mimiloon ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter" in sudoers (i added myself to sudoers), it still asks for the root password when starting the program; can anyone please tell me what i'm doing wrong and resolve this issue? |
| 04:54.34 | twobitsprite | they're just scripts like any other.. .just put your command in there |
| 04:54.40 | vadi | bees, I'll have to find out if that might be done through the configuration file |
| 04:54.50 | kupo | why is it telling me to look for vmlinuz when there's only initrd and linux in the directory? |
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| 04:55.36 | bees | vadi: to pull a package out of sid, you will need to add the sid repository to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:56.31 | kupo | anyone? |
| 04:56.42 | twobitsprite | vadi: if you're going to do that, please /msg dpkg mixed-system |
| 04:57.03 | jetscreamer | deja vu |
| 04:57.12 | twobitsprite | er... /msg dpkg mixed system |
| 04:57.32 | vadi | twobitsprite, OK |
| 04:58.22 | jetscreamer | kupo: /boot |
| 04:58.36 | jetscreamer | the ones in / are symlinks |
| 04:58.46 | jetscreamer | wait no |
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| 04:59.03 | jetscreamer | /boot |
| 04:59.10 | kupo | ? |
| 04:59.38 | jetscreamer | ls /boot ls -l / |
| 04:59.49 | bees | so does anyone know how to remove a package which is refusing to be removed due to "inconsistent state" |
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| 05:00.16 | Wyzard | bees: install it to get it into a consistent state, then remove it |
| 05:00.23 | mimiloon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:01.40 | bees | Wyzard: the original package (acpid 1.0.8-6) is no longer on the mirror, and i can't install 1.0.8-7 due to "inconsistent state" |
| 05:01.57 | bees | here's the bug report btw: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524602 |
| 05:02.00 | Wyzard | bees: snapshot.debian.net |
| 05:02.20 | bees | Wyzard: thx, i'll try that out :) |
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| 05:04.35 | bees | uh, does snapshot.debian.net keep snapshots of testing packages? |
| 05:05.09 | bees | the latest version i can find there is 1.0.6-5.1 |
| 05:05.38 | Wyzard | It keeps copies of every package that enters the archive, afaik |
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| 05:09.44 | enouf | !sdn |
| 05:09.44 | dpkg | well, snapshots is an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 05:12.53 | bees | is this where i should be looking? because i can't see 1.0.8-6 or later there. http://snapshot.debian.net/package/acpid |
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| 05:13.46 | kupo | I'm having some real trouble setting up this usb install |
| 05:13.53 | kupo | it won't boot for beans |
| 05:16.45 | Sashi | is passwd MD5ed? |
| 05:16.49 | Sashi | or.. something else? |
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| 05:21.18 | bees | ok, i found the same version of the package (acpid 1.0.8-6), but it still will reinstall. |
| 05:21.19 | bees | http://paste.debian.net/33917/ |
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| 05:23.03 | bees | dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
| 05:23.03 | dpkg | bees: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 05:23.22 | bees | lol |
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| 05:25.34 | bees | the package is obviously faulty, anyone know how to force the upgrade? |
| 05:26.06 | ``y7 | i just got done installing this debian-501-amd64-netinst.iso on my pc and when i reboot, i get a flashing cursor... no sign of debian. any ideas? |
| 05:26.50 | bees | y7: any sign of grub? |
| 05:27.48 | ``y7 | negative |
| 05:28.13 | ``y7 | i've installed it twice and both times, the install is succesful and it reboots and i get this blinking cursor |
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| 05:29.38 | sylecn | y7, where did you install grub? do you have a dual-boot machine or just debian? |
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| 05:30.09 | ``y7 | just debian, and i let the auto-install do everything default |
| 05:30.56 | sylecn | if there is only a flashing cursor, I guess grub is not installed properly. you can try reinstall grub using a live cd |
| 05:31.24 | ``y7 | live cd = the same as netinstall? |
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| 05:32.52 | sylecn | I haven't use netinstall disk before. better use knoppix |
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| 05:33.15 | wm4 | how to make the nvidia official driver (nvidia-kernel-source) work with Linux 2.6.29.1? |
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| 05:33.38 | ``y7 | sylecn, i'll give it a shot, thanks. |
| 05:33.50 | sylecn | y7, np |
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| 05:35.07 | bees | wm4: are you trying to use module-assistant to update to 180.44? |
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| 05:35.17 | wm4 | bees: exactly... |
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| 05:35.27 | bees | wm4: you will need to do m-a clean nvidia |
| 05:35.59 | wm4 | bees: that worked... what exactly is the reason for this? |
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| 05:37.13 | bees | something in the nvidia driver hasn't cleaned up properly, causes the build to fail |
| 05:37.25 | bees | wm4: enjoy |
| 05:38.19 | wm4 | bees: I find it strange, because that was my first attempt to build that new version of the driver... are you saying it somehow used files from an old build? old as in previous version |
| 05:38.48 | bees | wm4: old as in previous version, i think. |
| 05:39.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | not as in wise? :) |
| 05:39.25 | wm4 | bees: is it recommended to do a clean before auto-install? |
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| 05:40.42 | bees | wm4: i don't really know. i've never had to until this version. here is where i found the solution http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=523922 , it is rather light on the details |
| 05:40.57 | wm4 | bees: ok, thank you |
| 05:41.42 | bees | wm4: np |
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| 05:47.00 | jozefk | hi debian users |
| 05:47.07 | jozefk | :) |
| 05:48.30 | jozefk | i can't open this link: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/jigdo-dvd/ can somebody send me the links from that page please? |
| 05:50.30 | jozefk | 834 users and all seems sleeping :) |
| 05:51.04 | bees | jozefk: http://dpaste.com/35400/ |
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| 05:51.34 | adama_ | zzzz |
| 05:51.50 | jozefk | thanks but I need the real links not only the content of the page |
| 05:54.02 | sepult | why is tattoing be harm ? |
| 05:54.20 | jozefk | anyway i'll creat the links manualy :) |
| 05:55.13 | jozefk | not that big problem since i have the last part of the links. |
| 05:56.39 | adama_ | example: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/jigdo-dvd/debian-501-i386-DVD-1.jigdo |
| 05:57.13 | adama_ | replace 1 with 2 thru 5 and/or replace jigdo with template |
| 05:57.18 | manu_hack | testing |
| 05:57.21 | jozefk | yeah i'll just change the last part. thanks! |
| 05:58.04 | bees | can anyone suggest how to work around/fix the problem described in this bug? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524602 |
| 05:58.12 | bees | i need to get acpid working again |
| 05:58.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | jozefk, http://pastebin.com/f3818ccab |
| 05:59.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see why you shouldn't be able to open that page, though |
| 05:59.29 | manu_hack | can also open that page |
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| 05:59.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | bees, "wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/jigdo-dvd/ -O - | pastebinit -" :)) |
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| 05:59.48 | jozefk | most probably because of my sh*ty ISP |
| 05:59.59 | jozefk | i'm forced to use proxy .. |
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| 06:00.03 | jozefk | shared IP.. |
| 06:00.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... or why you think you could do anyting useful if you cannot |
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| 06:01.07 | jozefk | i'm happy I can be on freenode today coz yesterday I wasn't able to use it |
| 06:01.20 | jozefk | and even now I'm on mibbit |
| 06:01.36 | jozefk | sometimes this country killing me :) |
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| 06:02.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | saudi-arabia? |
| 06:02.34 | deadbeef | hi guys escuseme, i'm using debian squeeze; after an aptitude upgrade, my touchpad, soundcard and xserver aren't working anymore |
| 06:02.41 | jozefk | near-by |
| 06:02.43 | deadbeef | what's screwed up with the package manager? |
| 06:02.43 | jozefk | UAE |
| 06:02.45 | jozefk | dubai |
| 06:03.09 | deadbeef | i've read it's a common problem |
| 06:03.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | you did? |
| 06:03.28 | deadbeef | http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/abb78e5e893816a9 |
| 06:04.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | deadbeef, that's not at all what you described |
| 06:04.16 | bees | deadbeef: i'm having the same problem (really annoying!) |
| 06:04.18 | deadbeef | (i switched from lenny to squeeze some months ago) |
| 06:04.26 | deadbeef | bees: join the club :D |
| 06:04.29 | deadbeef | what's the cause? |
| 06:04.32 | bees | except my xserver is working |
| 06:04.34 | deadbeef | so i can try to fix it |
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| 06:04.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, check the bts |
| 06:04.54 | bees | well, i'm pretty sure it's caused by the acpid package |
| 06:05.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | and not through google :) |
| 06:05.12 | deadbeef | bees: i've removed it |
| 06:05.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | make that 'and not through google-groups' |
| 06:05.26 | deadbeef | because it was corrupted |
| 06:05.37 | deadbeef | now i modprobed some modules and managed sound and x to work |
| 06:05.41 | deadbeef | but touchpad is still broken |
| 06:05.44 | bees | cutmeownthroat: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524602 |
| 06:06.06 | deadbeef | lol pwnd |
| 06:06.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh, that's fun - the touchpad needs acpi? |
| 06:06.27 | bees | deadbeef: what is the status of your acpid status, is it refusing to update? |
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| 06:06.58 | deadbeef | bees: it was refusing to update (inconsistent etc.), then i managed to remove it |
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| 06:07.08 | deadbeef | by tricking its init script to succeed |
| 06:07.20 | bees | deadbeef: i haven't been able to remove it, how did you do that? |
| 06:07.21 | deadbeef | then i removed the init script also, manually |
| 06:07.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually the touchpad on my laptop doesn't have a 'middle mouse button' anymore since update... but I haven't bothered with it yet |
| 06:07.57 | deadbeef | bees: mv /etc/init.d/acpid /tmp/ && touch /etc/init.d/acpid && chmod +x /etc/init.d/acpid && aptitude remove acpid |
| 06:08.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | you guys are using the amd64 repository? |
| 06:08.13 | bees | my touchpad, wifi, bluetooth, power management, webcam are all broken |
| 06:08.18 | deadbeef | bees: maybe you need to do it also with 'hal' |
| 06:08.31 | deadbeef | bees: i managed my webcam up again by modprobing the module |
| 06:08.44 | deadbeef | but doing modprobe manually everytime when i had already configured everything is annoying |
| 06:08.50 | deadbeef | maybe i should switch to ubuntu |
| 06:08.52 | deadbeef | at least it's working |
| 06:08.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | bees, adding 'exit' to the start of the init script also works - dpkg complains that it can't shut down the service... |
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| 06:09.43 | bees | dpkg: error processing acpid (--purge): |
| 06:09.43 | dpkg | bees: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 06:09.45 | bees | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.45 | bees | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.45 | bees | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 06:09.45 | bees | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:09.45 | bees | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 06:09.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... so you just make the script succeed somehow (as he did by creating a zero-length executable file - I didn't know they would exit successfully... interesting) |
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| 06:10.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | sigh |
| 06:10.14 | deadbeef | CutMeOwnThroat: yep, they've nothing to fail with |
| 06:10.23 | deadbeef | instead of debian squeeze |
| 06:10.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | for the flooder... ... so you just make the script succeed somehow (as he did by creating a zero-length executable file - I didn't know they would exit successfully... interesting) |
| 06:10.57 | deadbeef | must stop trolling |
| 06:11.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | deadbeef, well, I would have thought having no #!/bin/bash would make it fail (as there is no way to decide if it's a shell script or a binary executable) |
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| 06:11.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and there really isn't anything to execute |
| 06:11.40 | bees | sorry about the flood. i've zeroed the init.d file, but that didn't help. |
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| 06:11.56 | maciell_ | Anyone knows any script to up images using command line? |
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| 06:12.02 | bees | how can i find the pre-inst(?) script which is failing? |
| 06:12.03 | deadbeef | bees: give a look to dpkg's output |
| 06:12.09 | deadbeef | it tells you where it's failing |
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| 06:12.44 | deadbeef | btw this thing one has to manually trick some scripts to manage a package manager to remove a broken app is so 1980 |
| 06:12.48 | bees | deadbeef: it isn't very verbose, i don't have any detail other that what i flodded |
| 06:13.12 | deadbeef | bees: btw pastebin.com |
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| 06:13.51 | bees | http://pastebin.com/m199d78b9 |
| 06:14.14 | deadbeef | try this |
| 06:14.16 | deadbeef | dpkg --remove acpid |
| 06:14.16 | dpkg | rips the still-beating acpid from deadbeef's chest, leaving deadbeef in a coma. |
| 06:14.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | maciell_, no - but I wonder how hard it would be to modify pastebinit to do it... |
| 06:14.35 | deadbeef | dpkg: lol |
| 06:14.35 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 06:14.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, wonderful |
| 06:14.56 | deadbeef | dpkg: i use aol actually |
| 06:14.56 | dpkg | deadbeef: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 06:15.22 | adama_ | !aol |
| 06:15.22 | dpkg | it has been said that aol is America OnLine, a large ISP, beloved of people who don't know much about the Internet. |
| 06:15.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, no wonder you ACT like an aol user as well, then :) |
| 06:15.38 | maciell_ | CutMeOwnThroat, I know one, but isn't working anymore. http://bachnik.com/projects/shackshag/ |
| 06:16.03 | deadbeef | dpkg: pls explain me about the internet and why debian squeeze is messing up with me |
| 06:16.03 | dpkg | that's too long, deadbeef |
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| 06:16.22 | deadbeef | dpkg: like my penis |
| 06:16.22 | dpkg | smooches my penis on the neck |
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| 06:16.33 | deadbeef | omg |
| 06:16.46 | adama_ | hahah |
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| 06:17.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | deadbeef, ok... funny, but you can continue playing with the bot in private conversation |
| 06:17.32 | deadbeef | nop i prefer the public |
| 06:17.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | . o O ( so sad to see a fellow human being lose an argument with a bot.... bigtime ) |
| 06:17.54 | \amethyst | well, no more talking about your penis in public |
| 06:18.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | right... s/the bot/your penis/ |
| 06:18.27 | bees | deadbeef: same problem with dpkg http://pastebin.com/m7bb39934 |
| 06:18.31 | twinsen_ | deadbeef: vuaerist? =))) |
| 06:19.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | bees, good job, I've never seenn that one |
| 06:19.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well |
| 06:19.16 | deadbeef | twinsen_: lol :D |
| 06:19.21 | deadbeef | bees: i solved this way |
| 06:19.43 | bees | of course, dpkg's advice to reinstall it is very helpful given that it won't allow me to reinstall it. |
| 06:20.18 | deadbeef | bees: cd /etc/init.d && mv hal hal.old && touch hal && chmod +x hal && aptitude remove acpid && mv hal.old hal |
| 06:21.07 | deadbeef | or maybe s/remove/upgrade |
| 06:21.19 | deadbeef | because it first needs to install acpid correctly |
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| 06:22.51 | simonrvn | what's a "vuaerist"? |
| 06:23.05 | bees | fk. that didn't work, and now /etc/init.d/hal is truncated |
| 06:23.30 | deadbeef | bees: mv hal.old hal |
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| 06:24.58 | bees | deadbeef: that would have worked, but because i stuffed the command the first time (aptitude upgade acpid doesnt work), hal.old got replaced when i tried the command a second time |
| 06:25.25 | deadbeef | wait |
| 06:25.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | stuffed? |
| 06:25.33 | deadbeef | bees: are you on squeeze? |
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| 06:25.46 | bees | deadbeed: yes |
| 06:25.55 | bees | well, squeeze/sid |
| 06:26.20 | deadbeef | bees: www.neuralnoise.com/hal |
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| 06:26.33 | deadbeef | give it the right permissions |
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| 06:27.47 | bees | deadbeed: thanks |
| 06:28.22 | deadbeef | np |
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| 06:29.32 | bees | are these correct permissions: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 2009-04-19 16:21 /etc/init.d/hal |
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| 06:29.56 | simonrvn | er, yes, but it's empty |
| 06:29.56 | deadbeef | yep |
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| 06:30.07 | bees | deadbeef: disaster averted :) |
| 06:30.23 | deadbeef | btw the file you ls'ed has 0 size |
| 06:30.49 | bees | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2090 2009-04-19 16:29 /etc/init.d/hal |
| 06:30.53 | bees | fixed |
| 06:31.06 | deadbeef | xfect |
| 06:31.26 | bees | so deadbeef: what is your status with the problem |
| 06:31.48 | deadbeef | now i'm without acpid |
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| 06:32.22 | bees | are you able to install the acpid 1.0.8-7 ? is it broken too? |
| 06:32.22 | hannah_irina | Hi, i have some problems: http://pastebin.ca/1396295 |
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| 06:33.05 | deadbeef | bees: i'm trying right now |
| 06:33.09 | hannah_irina | i need to use apt-get install amavisd-new libclass-dbi-mysql-perl ? |
| 06:34.02 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: fix your hostname. |
| 06:34.06 | simonrvn | !hostname |
| 06:34.07 | dpkg | Use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', /etc/mailname. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
| 06:34.13 | simonrvn | read ^^^ |
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| 06:34.54 | hannah_irina | aham :P |
| 06:35.04 | deadbeef | bees: nop, acpid is screwed up still |
| 06:35.22 | hannah_irina | in /etc/hostname >> haihui.org |
| 06:35.32 | bees | deadbeef: are you able to install a previous version, e.g. out of lenny? |
| 06:35.42 | hannah_irina | in /etc/hosts >> 192.168.10.103 webmail.haihui.org |
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| 06:35.51 | deadbeef | bees: nop |
| 06:36.05 | bees | deadbeef: dependency problems? |
| 06:36.22 | deadbeef | yep |
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| 06:37.42 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: that's not a hostname |
| 06:37.58 | simonrvn | that's a domainname + tld |
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| 06:38.18 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: the hostname would be "webmail" |
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| 06:39.02 | sepult | hmmmm, i have 23147 packages installed |
| 06:39.04 | hannah_irina | aham |
| 06:39.12 | centHOGG | yikes |
| 06:39.26 | bees | well i think that acpid needs to be pulled out of squeeze before it fscks more peoples systems. is this possible? |
| 06:39.29 | simonrvn | sepult: you sure you're reading that correctly? ;) |
| 06:39.53 | hannah_irina | simonrvn, i change in /etc/hostname i put: webmail |
| 06:39.57 | sepult | simonrvn: yes, that's what dselect tells me |
| 06:40.03 | sepult | lol |
| 06:40.13 | hannah_irina | simonrvn, when i type: install dovecot-pop3d , give me same error |
| 06:40.21 | centHOGG | sepult: aptitude search "~i" > ~/installed.txt |
| 06:40.28 | sepult | simonrvn: that's the packages which got updated |
| 06:40.33 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: ok, so now do "hostname webmail" on the command line so your system can pick it up, and re-run that install. |
| 06:40.38 | sepult | simonrvn: not the actual packages i downloaded |
| 06:41.22 | hannah_irina | haihui:~# hostname |
| 06:41.22 | hannah_irina | webmail |
| 06:41.23 | sepult | 7054 |
| 06:41.35 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname <-- read this |
| 06:41.38 | sepult | out of 23147 |
| 06:41.41 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: perfect |
| 06:42.35 | hannah_irina | same error: http://pastebin.ca/1396299 simonrvn |
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| 06:44.29 | simonrvn | bah... check your syslog, see if it says "TheDateOverThere hostname message" |
| 06:44.44 | hannah_irina | how i can chack sys log? |
| 06:44.57 | simonrvn | less /var/log/syslog |
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| 06:46.04 | simonrvn | hit PgDown to get to the end ;) |
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| 06:46.32 | hannah_irina | simonrvn, http://pastebin.ca/1396300 |
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| 06:49.13 | simonrvn | hannah_irina: http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname <-- read this |
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| 06:49.53 | bees | deadbeef: ok i managed to trick dpkg into thinking that acpid is not installed. can't reinstall it though |
| 06:50.05 | bees | here are the details: vadi: i can't guarantee that upgrading to 2.24 will solve the problem (as i |
| 06:50.09 | bees | oops |
| 06:50.17 | bees | here are the details: http://pastebin.com/m8688cfc |
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| 06:53.41 | kantor | Hi |
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| 06:54.36 | rafuch0 | i hve a c that5 i log into from ssh and i play thwe music from there in the speakers but sometimes i want to hear the music in my headphones .... how i can redirect tjhe audio from that pc to the other? |
| 06:54.52 | kantor | I want to download the complete iso's of the debian 4.0r8 (the latest revision) but I can't find anywhere. I found on some debian mirrors the revision 7 but not 8 :( |
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| 06:55.45 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/4.0_r8/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 06:56.10 | cahoot | rafuch0: netcat can do that, pulseaudio probably too and a more modern way |
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| 06:56.38 | rafuch0 | yes netcat i was thinking in that |
| 06:56.44 | rafuch0 | thanks |
| 06:57.05 | kantor | adb, thanks a lot !! |
| 06:57.13 | adb | yw |
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| 06:58.05 | bees | deadbeef: i've managed to get acpid working again, even though it isn't "installed" |
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| 06:58.30 | bees | i now have my hardware working again :) |
| 06:58.40 | PsySine | is there anything like crosshurd but for installing debian gnu/linuxï¼ |
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| 07:01.26 | PsySine | oh, crosshurd can do that! haha |
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| 07:01.49 | wm4 | where did the package industrial-cursor-theme go? it existed on etch |
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| 07:02.24 | adb | judd: versions industrial-cursor-theme |
| 07:02.25 | judd | adb: industrial-cursor-theme -- etch: 0.6.1.3 |
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| 07:10.39 | jetscreamer | can somebody tell me wtf the kernel maintainer's problemis |
| 07:11.05 | streuner__ | which? |
| 07:11.13 | jetscreamer | 2.6.26-2.... won't boot. 2.6.29-3 ... won't boot |
| 07:11.29 | jetscreamer | 2.6.26-1... boots |
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| 07:11.38 | streuner__ | hm, sounds like unstable :-) |
| 07:11.55 | jetscreamer | and then there's all those other borkednesses he's had lately |
| 07:11.57 | streuner__ | did you look at the BTS yet? |
| 07:12.33 | jetscreamer | no i don't care what's wrong with the kernel |
| 07:12.34 | jetscreamer | :) i want to know why this maintainer is messing up so much |
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| 07:13.05 | jetscreamer | i mean, wtf |
| 07:13.11 | streuner__ | if you dont know the exact problem, HOW do you know its a maint. problem then? |
| 07:13.20 | jetscreamer | -_- |
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| 07:14.05 | jetscreamer | ok lessee.... i try 50 times, i mess up 40 out of 50.... |
| 07:14.14 | jetscreamer | where's the problem |
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| 07:14.51 | jetscreamer | i would figure... i suck. |
| 07:14.52 | jetscreamer | therefore... |
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| 07:16.33 | jetscreamer | goes off to compile one himself |
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| 07:18.36 | danielito | anyone can assist me a bit in mounting an usb mass storage device in a virtual box? |
| 07:18.53 | danielito | the usb controller is deteced and I also get 'new usb device' found, but actually there is no /dev/sda on the filesystem |
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| 07:19.51 | streuner__ | jetscramer: 2.6.29-686? |
| 07:19.52 | danielito | modprobe usb_storage works fine, but also after that, there's no device |
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| 07:34.15 | jetscreamer | streuner__: yes |
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| 07:34.30 | streuner__ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=524442 |
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| 07:36.17 | jetscreamer | streuner__: i get nowhere near that far in the boot sequence |
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| 07:36.46 | jetscreamer | can't mount root filesystem |
| 07:37.06 | jetscreamer | on both 2.6.26-2 and 2.6.29-3 |
| 07:37.52 | jetscreamer | my thought was hdd->sdd->hdd->sdd |
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| 07:38.14 | jetscreamer | as in 'make up your damn mind how you wanna go' |
| 07:38.21 | streuner__ | usually an initrd problem |
| 07:38.26 | oorza | I'm trying to setup virtual interfaces, and I keep getting an address not available error |
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| 07:38.33 | jetscreamer | we'll see |
| 07:38.50 | oorza | I've copied EVERYTHING from iface inet eth0 to iface inet eth0:1 save for the last digit of the IP address |
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| 07:38.55 | streuner__ | look at BTS for initrd or such |
| 07:39.08 | oorza | Is it an issue with my hosting or is there something in debian (5.0 / Lenny) that could be preventing me from binding to that addy? |
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| 07:39.17 | streuner__ | or just check out your bootloader using the right entry for initrd |
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| 07:39.53 | jetscreamer | it is i just did |
| 07:40.21 | jetscreamer | streuner__: i don't want to fix it. but thanks. |
| 07:40.35 | streuner__ | its easy |
| 07:40.39 | jetscreamer | i know |
| 07:40.53 | jetscreamer | it would probably work with uuid also |
| 07:41.28 | jetscreamer | and i 'bet' w/o looking that homeboy decided to make 'my' box sdx instead of hdx... again... |
| 07:41.40 | mibber | I just updated lenny a while ago, and after rebooting grub showed 4 linux boot options instead of the original 2. I was just wondering what the difference will be if I booted with linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 and linux-image-2.6.26-1-686. |
| 07:41.41 | jetscreamer | but i'm guessing blindly |
| 07:41.50 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 07:42.02 | jetscreamer | mibber: here, -1 works, -2 doesn't... ymmv tohugh |
| 07:42.09 | jetscreamer | though |
| 07:42.20 | jetscreamer | my box gets all the weird bugs |
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| 07:42.27 | jetscreamer | most ppl don't get them |
| 07:42.28 | streuner__ | good lord, i cannot resist |
| 07:42.48 | wireddd | ok, so what is a good sega gen. emulator? something apt-getable |
| 07:42.48 | mibber | Both works for me. |
| 07:42.51 | streuner__ | is looking for a smite... |
| 07:43.15 | mibber | Just can't figure out why synaptic had to install a new linux image. |
| 07:43.17 | jetscreamer | !listkeys smite |
| 07:43.19 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'smite' by key (13 of 183): CMD: cmd: nvzsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: directhexsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: gmailsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: jengasmite (.*?) ;; CMD: lagsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: macsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: pavlovasmite (.*?) ;; CMD: phillysmite (.*?) ;; CMD: raf256: !test1smite (.*?) ;; CMD: ritasmite (.*?) ;; CMD: rms-smite (.*?) ;; CMD: slashdotsmite (.*?) ;; CMD: spelingsmite (.*?). |
| 07:43.24 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 07:43.30 | jetscreamer | ooo |
| 07:43.35 | jetscreamer | !nvzsmite me |
| 07:43.35 | dpkg | waffles $1 with a waffle iron and covers him/her in maple syrup. |
| 07:43.40 | streuner__ | 183? well, there should be one at least for OUR special jetscreamer :-) |
| 07:43.52 | cahoot | mibber: install listchanges? |
| 07:44.20 | mibber | cahoot: is that a sommandline command? Let me try it out. |
| 07:44.29 | streuner__ | mibber: or just use packages.debian.org and changelog, what cahoot recommend already |
| 07:44.48 | jetscreamer | listchanges is a program, and if you install it, it will do what it's name says |
| 07:44.57 | jetscreamer | when you install stuff |
| 07:45.01 | cahoot | mibber: my bad apt-listchanges |
| 07:45.07 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 07:45.45 | mibber | Hmm. I've already installed the new kernel, so I guess I'll just install it for future updates. |
| 07:45.57 | mibber | I still don't get why I had to get another kernel. |
| 07:45.58 | jetscreamer | i just don't like compiling my own kernel because my box is so slow and it takes forever |
| 07:46.15 | jetscreamer | you might have the metapackage installed mibber |
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| 07:46.26 | jetscreamer | and it depends on the latest linux-image |
| 07:46.27 | mibber | metapackage? |
| 07:46.33 | jetscreamer | !metapackage |
| 07:46.33 | dpkg | from memory, metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. Roy Rogers never metapackage he didn't like. it's supposed to be WILL rogers The version of a metapackage can be misleading -- look at what it depends on instead (see the kde metapackage for an example). |
| 07:46.44 | jetscreamer | like linux-2.6 for instance |
| 07:46.47 | streuner__ | mibber: we already told you |
| 07:46.57 | streuner__ | mibber: check out changelog |
| 07:47.10 | mibber | streuner__: I'll go do that. |
| 07:47.17 | streuner__ | fine |
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| 07:48.13 | jetscreamer | falls asleep waiting on make-kpkg |
| 07:48.27 | jetscreamer | understands it's really his cpu |
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| 07:51.15 | Umren | !tkinter |
| 07:51.27 | jetscreamer | ok |
| 07:51.31 | streuner__ | jetscreamer: 1 just work... |
| 07:51.50 | jetscreamer | ? you mean -1? works here ys |
| 07:51.51 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 07:52.05 | streuner__ | jetscreamer: these changes in 2 or 3 are usually just issues for new hardware, usually it dont effect you at all |
| 07:52.27 | streuner__ | just check out changelog too :-) |
| 07:52.28 | jetscreamer | what's really weird is 2 wasn't transparent |
| 07:52.50 | jetscreamer | it installed a seperate instance instead of merging with -1 like it usually does |
| 07:53.00 | jetscreamer | which is convienent, since it borked out |
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| 07:53.20 | mibber | I think I've finally found the changelog. I just can't seem to figure out what I'm supposed to be looking for. Haha |
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| 07:53.31 | jetscreamer | things that changed.... |
| 07:53.35 | jetscreamer | shrugs |
| 07:53.38 | dejai | Hello, what is the best way to go about compiling xorg from source and where can I find documentation? Sorry for the bother, thanks. |
| 07:53.41 | mibber | And I can't make heads or tails of this stuff. |
| 07:53.54 | jetscreamer | dejai: #xorg maybe |
| 07:54.01 | streuner__ | mibber: at the top, just look for version and date |
| 07:54.30 | dejai | jetscreamer: Um the command to download the src for xorg on debian, I forget it. |
| 07:54.43 | mibber | streuner__: It says: [Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:00:21 +0000] [ftpmaster: Joerg Jaspert] |
| 07:54.49 | mibber | It's a large txt file. |
| 07:54.55 | jetscreamer | apt-get source xorg maybe |
| 07:55.01 | streuner__ | mibber: URL? |
| 07:55.08 | dejai | jetscreamer: Hmm, I got that far... nvm |
| 07:55.42 | jetscreamer | wonders then why did he ask |
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| 07:56.28 | mibber | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ChangeLog |
| 07:56.31 | mibber | I think I got it. |
| 07:56.56 | mibber | It says here that linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 got removed from stable. |
| 07:57.12 | mibber | So I guess, I should use linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 from now on. |
| 07:57.56 | jetscreamer | isn't that great |
| 07:58.13 | mibber | Oh, sorry jetscreamer man. |
| 07:58.17 | jetscreamer | yet again stable has a kernel that doesn't work |
| 07:58.19 | jetscreamer | no not you |
| 07:58.30 | mibber | Oh. haha. |
| 07:58.31 | jetscreamer | it works for most ppl |
| 07:58.37 | oorza | Alright, I downloaded some .deb packages and now there's a new release |
| 07:58.38 | jetscreamer | deja vu |
| 07:58.42 | oorza | Is there anyway to just upgrade |
| 07:58.47 | oorza | Or do I need to uninstall and reinstall? |
| 07:58.50 | jetscreamer | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:58.59 | jetscreamer | aptitude dist-upgrade rather |
| 07:59.06 | jetscreamer | aptitude update first |
| 07:59.08 | oorza | It's not in a repository |
| 07:59.09 | mibber | oorza: Or you could use synaptic. |
| 07:59.12 | jetscreamer | o |
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| 07:59.16 | oorza | They're .deb files |
| 07:59.17 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 07:59.17 | oorza | about 6 |
| 07:59.21 | mibber | oorza: Oh. Sorry. Haha. |
| 07:59.24 | jetscreamer | wget |
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| 07:59.44 | jetscreamer | dpkg -i'ing the files should do what you want |
| 07:59.44 | dpkg | jetscreamer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 08:00.27 | streuner__ | mibber: linux-2.6 (2.6.26-15) stable; urgency=high * Switch out mips/llseek regression fix for the less invasive one that is more likely to be accepted upstream. |
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| 08:01.16 | jetscreamer | yay i think it's almost finished |
| 08:01.23 | mibber | streuner__: What does that mean? |
| 08:01.24 | jetscreamer | nope |
| 08:01.24 | rohan | i have a 320gb external hard disk. when i use it debian, on safe removal, it does not actually power off like in windows. hence, on removal, there is a slight screeching noise from the hdd. how do i force the hdd to power down before removal? or at least stop spinning? |
| 08:01.31 | streuner__ | no idea |
| 08:01.41 | mibber | Oh well. Haha. |
| 08:01.44 | jetscreamer | did you like unmount it? |
| 08:01.56 | mibber | Anyway, yeah, looks like linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 got phased out. |
| 08:02.06 | mibber | So I guess I should boot with the new one. |
| 08:02.06 | streuner__ | well, it was so important to get into 5.0.1 at least... |
| 08:02.08 | rohan | jetscreamer: yes ofcourse, i synced and umounted |
| 08:02.15 | jetscreamer | just checking |
| 08:03.18 | oorza | ty jetscreamer it did :] |
| 08:03.22 | jetscreamer | so i could pretty much figure if i d/l'd a stable installer and used it on this box it would not boot after installation |
| 08:03.29 | oorza | Server version: 5.1.33-xtradb4 (Ubuntu) |
| 08:03.30 | oorza | \o/ |
| 08:03.32 | jetscreamer | shame |
| 08:03.33 | mibber | Same thing with my USB flash drives. Even if I unmount 'em, the power doesn't go off. |
| 08:04.05 | rohan | mibber: yes but with flash drives it isn't dangrerious |
| 08:04.09 | rohan | *dangerous |
| 08:04.17 | rohan | with a hard disk, it may be |
| 08:04.23 | mibber | rohan: Yeah. |
| 08:04.29 | jetscreamer | i feel raped by ubuntu |
| 08:05.49 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?q=power+down+usb&restrict=linux |
| 08:06.01 | mibber | rohan: Not sure if it's gona help, but my flash drives don't power down after "safely remove"ing them from Vista either. |
| 08:07.28 | mibber | Maybe external HDs don't power down there eiither? And if it doesn't it would be interesting to see if it would still make those screeching sounds. |
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| 08:09.18 | rohan | mibber: yes, but in windows xp it does power down.. wondering about how it affects |
| 08:09.45 | simonrvn | probably having to do with the firmware... |
| 08:09.48 | mibber | Yeah. Same observation here. They only power down in XP. |
| 08:10.06 | mibber | jetscreamer: How'd you get a google linux search? |
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| 08:10.25 | The_Dr | Hi, version 5.0.1 for PPC, is there only one dvd being released? |
| 08:10.45 | The_Dr | There is only one dvd on the primary mirror |
| 08:10.45 | simonrvn | The_Dr: o_O |
| 08:11.04 | simonrvn | maybe not ready yet...? |
| 08:11.26 | The_Dr | Cool the md5sum says there will be 5 so I will wait |
| 08:11.28 | The_Dr | Cheers |
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| 08:11.38 | simonrvn | np |
| 08:12.42 | streuner__ | mibber: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=521016 |
| 08:14.41 | jetscreamer | mibber: Debian mozilla package start page |
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| 08:15.24 | mibber | streuner__: Thanks man. You didn't have to dig it up though. Must have take quite some time. |
| 08:15.41 | streuner__ | mibber: google, about 5 seconds :-P |
| 08:15.50 | jetscreamer | <p><a href="http://www.google.com/linux">Google Linux Search</a></p><form action="http://www.google.com/linux" method="get"> <p> <input id="linux-google-input" maxlength="256" size="86" name="q"> <input value="linux" name="restrict" type="hidden"> <input value="Search" type="submit"></p></form> |
| 08:16.02 | mibber | streuner__: Haha. |
| 08:16.04 | streuner__ | mibber: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=mips%2Fllseek+regression+fix&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=&aq=f&oq= |
| 08:16.17 | mibber | If it was me it would have taken quite a while longer. |
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| 08:17.05 | mibber | jetscreamer: Didn't know that google.com/linux existed. |
| 08:17.17 | jetscreamer | they have lots like that |
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| 08:17.44 | mibber | This would make future linux related searche easier I guess. |
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| 08:17.48 | jetscreamer | another neat trick is <thing_to_google> site:someurl.com |
| 08:18.13 | mibber | Oh, yeah, that I'm familiar with. |
| 08:18.27 | mibber | You can find that under advanced search. |
| 08:18.50 | jetscreamer | you can just type it in a search box though |
| 08:18.53 | mibber | But the linux specific one, well, It's not exactly advertised or anything. |
| 08:19.04 | mibber | Yeah. |
| 08:19.27 | jetscreamer | see the bottom of the advanced search page |
| 08:20.12 | jetscreamer | notes it's still compiling |
| 08:20.17 | mibber | Oh. It's there. Haha. |
| 08:20.17 | mibber | Man. |
| 08:20.29 | jetscreamer | my kernel is i mean |
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| 08:26.26 | DevilChaos | hi folks having a few problems with compiz fusion does anyone here have any great dealings with it? |
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| 08:27.18 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 08:27.18 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask a few hours later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 08:28.08 | SoulSeller | DevilChaos, what's the problem? |
| 08:28.13 | jetscreamer | fill in the details, maybe someone can help |
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| 08:29.54 | DevilChaos | i try to use nano in terminal window and somehow i cant use the control button |
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| 08:30.13 | DevilChaos | like ctrl + o for saving etc |
| 08:30.57 | caraconan | Hi. I've got pc1 and pc2 connected via twisted pair, and I think (http://pastebin.com/m1cfb3ade) they link at 1000 mbps. I made a script to scp a file, but I count less than 10Mb/s (yes, I know mbps<>Mbps). The question: what's happening? There are another test to see the real link speed between the two nic's? |
| 08:30.59 | Devrethman | do you have it mapped to some wierd X11 function? |
| 08:31.02 | DevilChaos | its fully working but also have the small problem of not having it load on start up |
| 08:31.56 | rdman1 | caraconan: try doing it over http or ftp |
| 08:32.05 | caraconan | ok, thanks |
| 08:32.22 | rdman1 | caracoan: scp is using ssh and encrypting traffic, that is very cpu intensive |
| 08:32.25 | DevilChaos | i need to go will be back on later sorry, thanks :) |
| 08:32.36 | Gondegal | hello, I m currently installing Debian 5.0.1 (64bit), need an hour or so to finish (slow connection), and i have an ATI 4870 gpu. I would like some info regarding the proper installation procedure for ATI drivers (my first time with ATI, used to have NV), a how-to link would be fine |
| 08:33.03 | rdman1 | caracoan: check cpu utilisation when copying over scp, ftp should be quicker |
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| 08:33.36 | rdman1 | caracoan: also using blowfish as ssh/scp cipher can add speed a bit |
| 08:33.38 | sepult | Gondegal: maybe fglrx ?? |
| 08:33.42 | Gondegal | there seems to be two kind of drivers, opensource and those from amd |
| 08:33.46 | sepult | Gondegal: if you want 3d |
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| 08:35.08 | tWiNS3N | Guys, is anyone know any organizations conderned with free flow of information? |
| 08:35.52 | cahoot | CIA |
| 08:36.01 | tWiNS3N | xD |
| 08:36.12 | mibber | TPB? Haha. Well, joking aside, I think there's an open web movement or something. |
| 08:36.25 | mibber | Not too sure of the name. |
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| 08:38.10 | tWiNS3N | mibber: no, i`m not from tpb, but that news about tpb exited me.. |
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| 08:38.38 | mibber | Haha. Nah. I meant that TPB was all about free flow of "information". |
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| 08:39.50 | tWiNS3N | oh =) i dont think that is an official organization, is it? |
| 08:40.31 | mibber | Well, it is an official organization. Of sorts. I guess. I dunno. |
| 08:40.41 | xingu | amnesty international. :) |
| 08:40.46 | caraconan | <rdman1> 37M/s |
| 08:40.59 | caraconan | With wget... Poor, under my opinion |
| 08:41.01 | mibber | Although last time I heard there were only 4 or so members. But I'm pretty sure they're not what you''re looking for. |
| 08:42.09 | mibber | I'm pretty certain that I've heard of an organization that has been lobbying US congress for a more open web, I just can't remember who they are. |
| 08:42.12 | rdman1 | caraconan: now compare it to the speed of copying some big file on the machine |
| 08:42.39 | rdman1 | caraconan: network adds a bit overhead so copying over network will be slower |
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| 08:43.05 | rdman1 | caraconan: but like you see the problem is with encrypted traffic that is slower than unencrypted |
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| 08:43.45 | rdman1 | caraconan: not much you can do really about it, either use encrypted protocols like scp and slower downloads or unencrypted http/ftp and faster |
| 08:43.49 | caraconan | rdman1 but with wget (port 80) the final speed are, more or less, 296 mbps, far away from1000mbps |
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| 08:44.02 | tWiNS3N | mibber, xingu thx guys, i'm googling already for that information =) |
| 08:44.17 | caraconan | My test is copy a file of 1,4 Gb from pc1 to pc2 |
| 08:44.44 | mibber | tWiNS3N: No prob. |
| 08:45.06 | caraconan | And is right, scp are slower than wget, but I thinks is not true that the two nics are linking at 1000 mbps like ethtool says |
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| 08:45.09 | rdman1 | caraconan: yes and its ok, because your harddrive will always be slower than gig network connection |
| 08:45.23 | rdman1 | caraconan |
| 08:45.32 | caraconan | Then can I say that the 'bottleneck' are hd? |
| 08:45.45 | rdman1 | you need a fiber channel interface and 15000RPM drive for that speed |
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| 08:46.03 | rdman1 | yes the hd is bottleneck |
| 08:46.14 | caraconan | Ok, thanks a lot. |
| 08:46.23 | rdman1 | just test speed of copying files on said machines locally |
| 08:46.40 | caraconan | I thinkf the 2 gigabit nics and the tisted pair wire (category 7 I think) was enough |
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| 08:47.49 | jetscreamer | still gd going :/ |
| 08:48.28 | rdman1 | and one more thing - only PCI Express and integrated nics can really give gig connection |
| 08:48.49 | rdman1 | old pci nics are too slow - pci is too slow |
| 08:49.03 | caraconan | Ummm pc1 has an integrated NIC, but pc2 I think is PCI only |
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| 08:49.14 | rdman1 | but bottleneck is in the drive itself |
| 08:49.20 | caraconan | Ok, rdma1 thanks a lot |
| 08:49.23 | rdman1 | ok |
| 08:49.39 | rdman1 | i must go now bye |
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| 08:49.45 | caraconan | Bye |
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| 08:54.36 | cahoot | Ogedei: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide perhaps |
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| 08:57.31 | owen_m | it looks like my Debian box has been owned, and someone is using it to run a warez IRC bot. lsof shows a connection to an irc server, but the command it shows is just 'bash.' if I use ps and grep for the PID I get in lsof, it shows me /usr/sbin/smartd |
| 08:57.44 | owen_m | how can I figure out what process is actually running the bot? |
| 08:58.06 | xingu | owen_m: you can't. |
| 08:58.07 | owen_m | the only other thing I can see is it's running as user www (weird, since that user's password is pretty secure) |
| 08:58.15 | owen_m | rats. |
| 08:58.28 | owen_m | if I kill the PID, the connection goes away, but eventually it comes back., |
| 08:58.44 | owen_m | I can packet sniff and see what IRC channels it's in and stuff, but it's clearly just offering up warez. |
| 08:58.54 | xingu | owen_m: at the point where the root credential is suspect all sorts of stupidities come into play; the technology to create _completely invisible to userspace_ processes in the kernel has existed for a considerably long time. |
| 08:59.51 | xingu | owen_m: if you want forensics you need to break the cycle; offline that os image, boot from trusted media, and don't use any executables from the damaged system image. |
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| 09:00.11 | xingu | owen_m: or better still, just re-image it. |
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| 09:00.44 | owen_m | yeah fair enough. |
| 09:00.53 | owen_m | I don't really have the facilities at present to do any of that. |
| 09:01.09 | owen_m | I'm not actually sure the root credentials are suspect. |
| 09:01.15 | owen_m | rkhunter and chkrootkit find nothing. |
| 09:01.22 | owen_m | clearly it's possible I've been owned to that level. |
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| 09:01.42 | cahoot | you run those from a livecd or such? |
| 09:01.55 | owen_m | I downloaded new copies. |
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| 09:02.22 | owen_m | oh, but, doesn't rkhunter assume the first time it's run that your binaries are clean? |
| 09:02.33 | owen_m | in which case if I'm running it after being owned, it's not much use. |
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| 09:03.39 | SQlvpapir | owen_m: debsum? |
| 09:03.40 | iateadonut1 | what's a good non-kde program to burn a dvd to an iso? |
| 09:03.43 | SQlvpapir | debsums* |
| 09:04.16 | SQlvpapir | iateadonut1: a gui for gnome.. you want bloat or cmd line? |
| 09:04.24 | iateadonut1 | cmd |
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| 09:05.14 | jetscreamer | yay finally |
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| 09:05.42 | iateadonut1 | so, when i stick a dvd into debian, it doesn't automount? that's a function of the window manager? |
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| 09:05.43 | jetscreamer | i like k3b personally, but there are many. you can use k3b under gnome |
| 09:05.45 | {g} | On one of my Servers, I see loadaverages of about 0.5. But the CPU is idle about 90%. Isnt that unususal? Any idea how to find out which processes are waiting and why? |
| 09:05.45 | SQlvpapir | cdrecord |
| 09:05.53 | iateadonut1 | i really like k3b. |
| 09:05.57 | owen_m | debsums... good idea |
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| 09:06.11 | iateadonut1 | but, i like the way my computer doesn't heat up at all with fluxbox. |
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| 09:06.25 | cahoot | growisofs? |
| 09:07.13 | jetscreamer | iateadonut1: yeah or there's some kernel automount stuff but i know nothing about it |
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| 09:08.08 | SQlvpapir | iateadonut1: if you want ncurses check out mybashburn |
| 09:08.16 | iateadonut1 | well, if there's no automount, then where is my dvd? |
| 09:08.19 | iateadonut1 | /dev/something? |
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| 09:08.46 | SQlvpapir | usually /dev/dvd |
| 09:08.49 | iateadonut1 | i am installing mybashburn |
| 09:09.12 | iateadonut1 | is there a multi-tab terminal besides konsole? what's the least bloated that has tabs? |
| 09:09.21 | PsySine | how can i put /boot on a different partition for an installed system that lies on only one partition? is it enough to edit grub and fstab and to move the contents of /boot to the new partition? |
| 09:09.39 | iateadonut1 | yes |
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| 09:10.02 | iateadonut1 | yes, that's enough. |
| 09:10.07 | iateadonut1 | do you know how to load up from grub? |
| 09:10.08 | PsySine | great :) |
| 09:10.14 | iateadonut1 | you should learn that in case. |
| 09:10.20 | PsySine | yeah i know grub i think |
| 09:10.25 | iateadonut1 | it's three steps. i forget them, but i always right them down before i start. |
| 09:10.45 | iateadonut1 | and then i have my boot directory in a place separate from all my OS partitions. |
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| 09:12.55 | iateadonut1 | i just put a cd into my drive - i have the files /dev/cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw - how do i know which one has something in it? |
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| 09:16.19 | SQlvpapir | iateadonut1: they usually all link to ie. hda or sth like that |
| 09:16.29 | SQlvpapir | do ls -l /dev/cdrom,cdrw etc |
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| 09:17.17 | grig | hi all |
| 09:17.28 | jetscreamer | yeah ls -l |
| 09:17.35 | jetscreamer | symlinks |
| 09:17.42 | grig | is there any problem with security.debian.org? |
| 09:18.04 | grig | apt-get update gets stuck at 'connecting to security.debian.org' |
| 09:18.09 | jetscreamer | not when i upgraded a couple hours ago |
| 09:18.21 | jetscreamer | did you ctrl c & try again? |
| 09:18.29 | grig | many times |
| 09:18.31 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 09:19.22 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 09:20.03 | iateadonut1 | what are all the packages you need to install to mount a samba partition? |
| 09:20.28 | jetscreamer | smb 'should' pull it all in.. smbfs ... |
| 09:20.49 | jetscreamer | !smb |
| 09:20.49 | dpkg | hmm... smb is Server Message Block or how Microsoft pulls off its networking sharing magic, or see <CIFS>, or Super Mario Brothers, or ask me about <samba> |
| 09:20.54 | jetscreamer | cifs |
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| 09:23.30 | iateadonut1 | !cifs |
| 09:23.30 | dpkg | hmm... cifs is Common Internet File System or see <SMB>, or it is basically SMB without <NBT> |
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| 09:50.02 | themill | !qotd0 |
| 09:50.02 | dpkg | <peterS> abrotman: I can't click the link at the moment actually. one of my balls has gone missing |
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| 09:59.36 | cjns3274 | some flash content now requires flashplayer 10 - any way I can install it in etch? |
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| 10:01.14 | lord_rob | Hi ! Is it possible to enable wireless support for my ipw2200 and kernel 2.6.29 with debian sid ? Do I need to compile a new kernel ? Is it hopeless ? |
| 10:01.15 | themill | cjns3274: none that I know of. |
| 10:01.26 | liable | lord_rob: sure |
| 10:01.35 | themill | !ipw2200 |
| 10:01.35 | dpkg | it has been said that ipw2200 is the driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 and 2915 802.11a/bg chipsets (http://ipw2200.sf.net/) included in kernels since 2.6.15. Firmware is required. Lenny: Add <non-free sources> and install the 'firmware-ipw2x00' package. Etch: Download firmware v3.0 from http://ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php and extract to /lib/firmware. See also <ipw2200 troubleshooting>. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net |
| 10:01.35 | wm4 | does anyone have to have a qemu image of an installed debian with kde? |
| 10:01.35 | valdyn | lord_rob: just install the firmware package |
| 10:01.36 | liable | lord_rob: all you need is the firmware |
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| 10:01.52 | pif | hi, anyone with synaptics touchpad issues on sid/unstable? |
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| 10:02.01 | cjns3274 | themill: so I feared .. lots of threads in google and no solution |
| 10:02.06 | pif | tapping no longer clicks |
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| 10:02.44 | themill | cjns3274: aiui, flash 10 requires libraries that aren't in etch. btw what browser are you wanting to use this with anyway? |
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| 10:02.58 | lord_rob | yes liable I know that, it has worked until I upgraded to kernel 2.6.29. So I'll need to build my kernels manually now ... That's okay |
| 10:03.09 | lord_rob | thank you |
| 10:03.17 | liable | lord_rob: what do you mean? |
| 10:04.10 | lord_rob | liable: I mean that I've been using prebuilt debian packages but now there aren't any for Sid (ony for etch) |
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| 10:04.31 | liable | lord_rob: which packages? |
| 10:04.37 | cjns3274 | themill: it's seamonkey - I have a current ubuntu on another partition and installed the plugin w/o any problems .. needs glibc 2.4 |
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| 10:05.07 | lord_rob | liable: kernel 2.6.29 + ipw2200 |
| 10:05.09 | themill | cjns3274: yeah... that'll be an insurmountable problem for you... |
| 10:05.17 | liable | lord_rob: see what dpkg said above, its been in the mainline kernel since 2.6.15 |
| 10:05.36 | themill | lord_rob: precisely what packages are you looking for? Everything you need should be in debian already |
| 10:06.31 | cjns3274 | themill: seems there were glibc 2.3 versions of flash10 at one point .. beta presumably .. how about lenny? |
| 10:06.51 | themill | cjns3274: lenny is just fine for flash 10. /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 10:07.31 | cjns3274 | themill: time to upgrade .. that usually takes me a couple months :-) |
| 10:08.01 | themill | :) |
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| 10:12.18 | unikon | hello,, im tired of using ubuntu and im interested into moving onto a better choice like debian my question is would i have a better choice of software to use other than ubuntu |
| 10:13.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | better choice? |
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| 10:15.47 | lord_rob | there aren't that many differences between the two distros nowadays |
| 10:16.08 | lord_rob | (for desktop usage of course) |
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| 10:16.14 | twins3n | unikon, lord_rob there is no annoying updates in debian every hour like in ubuntu =) |
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| 10:16.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | and you dont need 4hz of cpu to run it |
| 10:17.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | *jhz |
| 10:17.17 | unikon | id like to move onto a the constant updatesARE annoying |
| 10:17.24 | unikon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:17.28 | Eulex | twins3n, if you're running unstable there are ^_^ |
| 10:17.43 | unikon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:18.25 | twins3n | Eulex: no thx, i wanna work, not update my os =) |
| 10:18.32 | Eulex | :) |
| 10:19.42 | lord_rob | twins3n: actually I've only installed ubuntu once and I said "oh it looks like Debian" which is pretty normal of course. But if the core of Ubuntu is Debian, some good enhancements of Debian come from Ubuntu there's no denying :) |
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| 10:22.45 | twins3n | lord_rob: certainly =) |
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| 10:25.25 | lord_rob | thanks themill for the package firmware-ipw2x00 I was still using an old package from the kanotix distribution (no I'm not using kanotix, I've tried it at the beggining I got my thinkpad but this is not Debian) |
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| 10:27.11 | wm4 | are there any apt repositories that provide kde 3 for debian unstable? |
| 10:29.21 | themill | Isn't kde3 in sid? |
| 10:29.35 | plundra | Köp |
| 10:29.35 | Jemt | themill: http://packages.debian.org |
| 10:29.40 | plundra | Oops |
| 10:29.54 | themill | Jemt: what about it |
| 10:29.58 | wm4 | unstable recently upgraded to kde4 |
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| 10:30.29 | wm4 | and kde4... well let's give it 10 more years until it becomes usable |
| 10:30.53 | themill | wm4: how do you figure that? kdelibs 3 is still in sid and the kde metapackage has the same version in lenny, squeeze and sid. |
| 10:31.04 | Jemt | themill: I thought the software version was available through the package system. Sorry |
| 10:31.16 | themill | !kde version |
| 10:31.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kde version is look at http://wiki.debian.org/KDE for detailed information, or look at the version of kdelibs for an approximate version. |
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| 10:31.40 | themill | wm4: hmm... the wiki claims 4.2.2 is in sid now... |
| 10:32.02 | wm4 | themill: that's what I'm saying |
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| 10:33.53 | themill | wm4: try asking in #debian-kde ... the kde package version numbering is quite opaque and the wiki is not in agreement with the packages that I can see in sid. See for example http://packages.debian.org/sid/kde which clearly says that installing the "kde" package will give you KDE3. |
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| 10:34.36 | wm4 | themill: where exactly does it say something about kde3? |
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| 10:35.10 | themill | wm4: Every single package it installs is kde 3.5.5 |
| 10:35.17 | themill | gah... > 3.5.5 ... |
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| 10:36.13 | themill | gives up and goes in search of coffee |
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| 10:36.41 | bartmon | hey guys. is there a specific channel for debian forums? |
| 10:37.34 | azeem | bartmon: what kind of forums? |
| 10:38.12 | bartmon | azeem: forums.debian.net |
| 10:38.18 | bartmon | i'll just go to offtopic |
| 10:39.14 | azeem | bartmon: you'd have to ask them I guess |
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| 10:39.57 | war9407 | Is Asterisk in Debian/TEsting working properly? I have been using 1.6.x from source but decided to try 1.4.x on testing. |
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| 10:44.52 | loongson | Hello. is there a way to access the directory that server a mount point, without umount first? Or, do you know what key word can be used to stfw for this? |
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| 10:48.00 | bartmon | loongson: Please explain, you had a grammar fail back there. |
| 10:48.19 | bartmon | (how ironic) :) |
| 10:48.20 | Cyb0org | Hi. What automatically change priority in untable? I can't find is it some daemon or is it kernel module. I can't also find answer in google. It's happened mostly when I play Flash in Iceweasel. |
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| 10:52.36 | khaleel5000 | hello, i am a noob i have installed debian lenny on my laptop (i have been a linux user for quite a while, its my first laptop)are there any laptop specific packages that one should install, like to control processor speed, graphy speed etc ? |
| 10:52.58 | khaleel5000 | i have intel c2d 2.2 ghz t6600 processor, nvidia 9600m gt, its a HP DV5 1215tx lappy |
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| 10:54.45 | nkuttler | khaleel5000: i'd google model install linux. that should lead you to special software if there is any |
| 10:55.05 | liable | !laptop |
| 10:55.05 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/ Also ask me about <acpi> and <suspend>, or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. See also <netbook>, <laptop mode> <suspend troubleshooting>. |
| 10:55.13 | liable | khaleel5000: check those sites ^^ |
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| 10:55.33 | khaleel5000 | liable: thanks |
| 10:55.43 | liable | yw |
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| 10:58.17 | devilofchaos | hello, how find i the driver on debian? |
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| 10:58.34 | Bruno_Kante_ | http://brunokante.mybrute.com |
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| 10:59.19 | devilofchaos | hello i search a driver *SiS PCI Lan driver* can anywere help me please? |
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| 10:59.59 | devilofchaos | i found only for windows and that not god xD |
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| 11:01.05 | devilofchaos | can me nobody helb? |
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| 11:01.53 | themill | devilofchaos: got a pciid for it? (lspci -nn) |
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| 11:05.58 | lord_rob | Is there anybody using the belgian identity card reader ACR38U with Debian ? It never works when I need it to ... |
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| 11:11.41 | devilofchaos | themill that is onboar no pci |
| 11:12.19 | themill | devilofchaos: I bet it still has a PCI Id. Especially with "PCI" in the name. |
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| 11:13.22 | miksuh | Hmm, why LiveMagic on my comoputer running Lenny says that lenny is testing? |
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| 11:13.48 | miksuh | you can select etch (stable), lenny (testing) and sif (unstavle) |
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| 11:16.27 | abc123 | How to completly let Debian switch from R.A.M.? In Knoppix there is an option called "toram" is there (with enough space left) a possibility to copy " / "-Directory with Subdirectorys and Files into R.A.M. and let "/home/" link to an H.D.D. Partition? Where to find hints for such Memoryproblem? Is the option "toram" portable to Debian on a "H.D.D."? Thank you for answers. |
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| 11:17.50 | tty | how would i go about installing debian on a socalled "headless" box ? |
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| 11:20.30 | tty | sshd, right? but how do I get sshd to start at cdrom boot? |
| 11:21.24 | Wyzard | devilofchaos: onboard devices are PCI too |
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| 11:22.36 | tty | nevermind |
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| 11:23.44 | devilofchaos | hmm ok i lock |
| 11:23.46 | devilofchaos | look |
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| 11:25.45 | zaggynl | what's with this? http://pastebin.com/m12abdc30 |
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| 11:27.01 | themill | zaggynl: see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=38593&highlight= |
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| 11:27.29 | zaggynl | thanks |
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| 11:30.51 | digitaloktay | hi people |
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| 11:31.40 | lostson | good morning digitaloktay |
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| 11:32.02 | kunal | good morning digitaloktay |
| 11:32.07 | kunal | good morning lostson |
| 11:32.22 | kunal | i would like to know wherei can change WEP settings from shared to open? |
| 11:32.27 | digitaloktay | gm lostson kunal |
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| 11:34.18 | kunal | hey. i ran the command iwlist auth |
| 11:34.27 | kunal | i want to select open. how to? |
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| 11:36.10 | kunal | any idea? |
| 11:37.00 | nkuttler | kunal: hm? |
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| 11:37.25 | nkuttler | kunal: i think you want iwconfig |
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| 11:38.59 | izua | hello. i need an app that allows me to select a piece of a music file and loop it / slow it down (while maintaing pitch) and do FFT over my selection |
| 11:39.18 | izua | is there such a thing? i want to transcribe a few songs. on windows there's transcribe! |
| 11:39.20 | kunal | nkuttler: i need to change my wep key setting from shared to open |
| 11:39.25 | kunal | any idea how to ? |
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| 11:41.31 | themill | izua: I think audacity can do all that. |
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| 11:41.45 | digitaloktay | is gnome 2,24 now in testing? |
| 11:42.20 | jelly-home | judd: versions gnome |
| 11:42.21 | judd | jelly-home: gnome -- etch: 1:2.14.3.6 lenny: 1:2.22.2~5 sid: 1:2.22.2~5 squeeze: 1:2.22.2~5 experimental: 1:2.24.2~2 sid: 1:2.24.3~1 |
| 11:42.31 | bzed | izua: in the worst case I'd give ardour a try |
| 11:42.37 | bzed | izua: although that's a bit overkill |
| 11:42.42 | izua | i have ardour already installed |
| 11:42.44 | alnr | i ran out of space while running apt-get install, now any apt-get operation including update fails with W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org unstable/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_unstable_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 11:42.52 | izua | but i need FFT - note mapping :) |
| 11:43.03 | alnr | oops. how can i fix apt? |
| 11:43.05 | jelly-home | izua: or wine |
| 11:43.14 | izua | so it tells me "i hear an A in this selection". not 440 hz :) |
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| 11:43.26 | jelly-home | alnr: do an update again |
| 11:43.28 | izua | well.. yeah. or wine :) but i'm looking for a linux app |
| 11:43.38 | izua | mkay, lemme check audacity, i jsut got it |
| 11:43.42 | bzed | izua: uh... I doubt there's a linux app which is able to do that... |
| 11:43.49 | bzed | unfortunately :( |
| 11:43.52 | izua | why? |
| 11:44.06 | izua | it's very basic.. you simply add a piano map over the FFT graph |
| 11:44.12 | alnr | jelly-home: actually that above message is what i get on doing update, i've repeated it er, repeatedly |
| 11:44.32 | jelly-home | alnr: in that case, ignore it |
| 11:44.52 | alnr | jelly-home: it fails on any install though |
| 11:44.56 | jelly-home | alnr: unstable doesn't have a security repo |
| 11:45.14 | jelly-home | alnr: remove the sources.list line for it |
| 11:45.33 | alnr | jelly-home: oh ok. thanks |
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| 11:46.06 | bzed | izua: if it is that easy.. code it! |
| 11:46.09 | khaleel5000 | hello, my lsmod output is here, i am on lenny, i cant understand which video drivers i am currently usign http://rafb.net/p/i47iPD90.html |
| 11:46.18 | jelly-home | alnr: installs shouldn't fail because of that warning though |
| 11:47.05 | themill | izua: I don't know anything that does note mapping other than (commercial) midi->notation programs like finale. |
| 11:47.21 | themill | izua: just learn the frequencies... there are only 12 of them to remember ;) |
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| 11:47.22 | izua | i suck at coding.. can't keep focused on a project |
| 11:47.37 | izua | hehe, and a bunch of octaves |
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| 11:49.16 | themill | izua: you can multiply by two easily enough :) |
| 11:49.48 | alnr | jelly-home: there is an underlying problem, i'm getting some weird (to me) messages which i will pastebin |
| 11:50.13 | jelly-home | alnr: pastebin the complete output |
| 11:50.27 | izua | sometimes you need to divide, heh. |
| 11:50.39 | izua | if i were thinking in binary, multiplying/dividing by two would be easy, heh |
| 11:51.17 | alnr | if i do 'apt-get install grep' i get The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 11:51.18 | alnr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.25 | alnr | E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' |
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| 11:52.07 | alnr | if i do apt-get -f install, it offers to install libxfcegui4-4 |
| 11:52.26 | alnr | if i do that, i get dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxfcegui4-4_4.6.0-2_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 11:52.28 | alnr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:53.05 | cemoi | salut |
| 11:53.24 | RUMMY | how can I download file ed2k://* I use only console and as I know aMule is for GUI |
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| 11:53.47 | cemoi | mm |
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| 11:54.01 | themill | dpkg: tell alnr about bat |
| 11:54.15 | grand_grunt | RUMMY: you need a console ed2k client, seems evident. |
| 11:54.23 | RUMMY | yeap |
| 11:55.04 | grand_grunt | amule is provided as a "deamon", but I don't know if you can drive it through CLI. Maybe using a CLI browser and the Web interface :| |
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| 11:55.59 | RUMMY | wget not supportet ed2k:// :( |
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| 11:56.33 | jelly-home | wget isn't a p2p app |
| 11:56.54 | grand_grunt | RUMMY: of course it doesn't not, ed2k is much more complicated than http or ftp: you need servers and other peers. |
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| 11:57.31 | grand_grunt | RUMMY: if you want to access to P2P in CLI, you can use rtorrent, a torrent (not ed2k) client. |
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| 11:57.56 | nkuttler | RUMMY: or mldonkey |
| 11:57.58 | alnr | themill: thanks will do |
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| 12:01.09 | devilofchaos | i search a link for pastebin |
| 12:01.28 | CatEater | how do i change screen resolution? the default is REALLY HUGE and the "Screen Resolution Preferences" app doesn't list any settings to choose from |
| 12:01.35 | Quibus | Hi, a friend of mine installed lenny and got this error when booting: "acpi invalid PBLK length [5]" on his Asus p4pe with latest BIOS... |
| 12:01.50 | themill | dpkg: tell devilofchaos about pastebin |
| 12:02.02 | alnr | http://paste.debian.net/33925/ |
| 12:02.12 | Quibus | I got a lot of Google hits for this, but no conclusions... |
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| 12:03.36 | devilofchaos | so i have nu *lspci -nn* write and resultat is here |
| 12:03.38 | devilofchaos | http://paste.debian.net/33926/ |
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| 12:07.03 | anoHito | how do i excute a .pl file ? |
| 12:07.03 | devilofchaos | a .pl file? no |
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| 12:07.03 | devilofchaos | i not found |
| 12:07.06 | anoHito | ? |
| 12:07.11 | sepult | perl -e ? |
| 12:07.18 | devilofchaos | mom |
| 12:07.43 | anoHito | sepult, that doesn't work. |
| 12:07.47 | themill | judd pciid 1039:0900 |
| 12:07.48 | judd | themill: [1039:0900] is 'SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet' from 'Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]' with kernel module 'sis900' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1039:0900 |
| 12:07.53 | themill | devilofchaos: ^^ |
| 12:07.54 | mbent | hi all, quick question. I just installed a fresh copy of Sid. When i go to configure network manager, I choose the connection and the edit and delete button turns to a key. When I press it, nothing happens. Does anyone know what is going on here? |
| 12:08.09 | sepult | anoHito: it may be either perl or a prolog script he wants to execute |
| 12:08.12 | mbent | what is supposed to happen? |
| 12:08.13 | nkuttler | anoHito: what's the file supposed to do? |
| 12:08.36 | anoHito | it says #!/usr/bin/perl -w |
| 12:08.45 | alnr | any idea on how i can fix apt-get http://paste.debian.net/33925/ |
| 12:08.51 | anoHito | a mysql bentchmark tool |
| 12:08.55 | sepult | anoHito: yes that's a perl script file |
| 12:08.57 | anoHito | beechmark whatever |
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| 12:09.06 | nkuttler | anoHito: if you want to run it "perl file", not saying that's a godd idea though |
| 12:09.09 | anoHito | but how do i excute it hmm |
| 12:09.17 | nkuttler | anoHito: or chmod +x it |
| 12:09.18 | sepult | anoHito: he has to make it executable chmod u+x |
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| 12:09.48 | sepult | anoHito: then sh ./my_script or just ./my_script |
| 12:10.12 | themill | alnr: can you also pastebin "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy libxfcegui4-4 xfce4-panel" |
| 12:10.21 | alnr | k |
| 12:10.22 | anoHito | got it.thank you all. |
| 12:11.07 | devilofchaos | ok i install a new kernel xD |
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| 12:11.53 | alnr | themill: http://paste.debian.net/33928/ |
| 12:11.54 | themill | devilofchaos: that nic should be supported by etch and lenny. |
| 12:12.56 | devilofchaos | hmm i have etch on the server |
| 12:13.41 | devilofchaos | what is a good firewall for linux? |
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| 12:14.11 | sepult | either arno-iptables-firewall or shorewall |
| 12:14.27 | devilofchaos | ok |
| 12:14.33 | themill | alnr: you have a curious mix of sid and etch. This is not a good thing. You can't skip releases like that. |
| 12:14.37 | kunal | does Atheros AR5211 support WPA on linux? |
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| 12:15.19 | devilofchaos | my debian have 2 kernel, is that ok so? or not |
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| 12:16.01 | JonNight | hey everyone |
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| 12:16.09 | sepult | at most one can run at some moment not both |
| 12:16.12 | sepult | so it's ok |
| 12:16.14 | klaz168 | devilofchaos, you can have 100.. but you'll use one at a time so thats no problem |
| 12:16.15 | nkuttler | devilofchaos: sure. the more the better |
| 12:16.23 | themill | alnr: what's the output of "dpkg -l libc6 aptitude dpkg"? |
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| 12:16.30 | devilofchaos | xD okay |
| 12:16.43 | RoenieSrvr | grub-install /dev/hdb and /dev/hdd returns "Unknown partition table signature". Both drives are part of a linux native raid 1 device at /dev/md0 md1 and md2. These are / , /boot and /storage, which the system is currently running from. |
| 12:17.04 | RoenieSrvr | what gives? |
| 12:17.25 | devilofchaos | |
| 12:17.27 | devilofchaos | Now the bissel longer need to boot *g* |
| 12:17.29 | alnr | themill: ii aptitude 0.4.4-4 terminal-based apt frontend |
| 12:17.31 | alnr | ii dpkg 1.13.25 package maintenance system for Debian |
| 12:17.33 | alnr | ii libc6 2.9-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 12:17.38 | RoenieSrvr | i'm trying to get grub installed to the 2nd disk in the array so that in case of a failure of the first drive, i can boot grub off the second |
| 12:17.43 | JonNight | strange question. How do you turn off the the beep from hitting tab its the system beep I know that. I tryed muting it in alsamixer but it did not stop it |
| 12:17.59 | RoenieSrvr | does this error mean my partition tables are actually bad or is it some grub issue? |
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| 12:18.44 | patrikf | JonNight: in bash, "set nobeep" (you can then put that into your .bashrc or even the system-wide one) |
| 12:19.00 | alnr | themill: not sure how i would have gotten into a mixed state like that. except that apt crashed on disk full, i think it was during apt-get install xfce4 |
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| 12:19.12 | sepult | JonNight: set bell-style none in /etc/inputrc |
| 12:19.13 | JonNight | oo thank you |
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| 12:19.19 | sepult | JonNight: system-wide |
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| 12:20.05 | alnr | apt was happy before that |
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| 12:20.48 | JonNight | thank you |
| 12:20.51 | themill | alnr: you have aptitude, dpkg and most of xfce4 from etch with libc6 and some other stuff from sid. What do you actually want to run? etch? lenny? sid? |
| 12:20.53 | mbent | hi all, quick question. I just installed a fresh copy of Sid. When i go to configure network manager, I choose the connection and the edit and delete button turns to a key. When I press it, nothing happens. After further investigation, polkit isn't running, yet it is installed, and it comes up when i press the unlock button in users and groups applet |
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| 12:21.23 | themill | alnr: hint: someone who is running sid should be able to fix this problem themselves. |
| 12:21.26 | mbent | any ideas? |
| 12:21.53 | sepult | mbent: no support for sid |
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| 12:22.09 | sepult | mbent: it is known that some programs in sid don't work |
| 12:22.35 | sepult | mbent: just use the stable or testing ones, if they don't work |
| 12:22.52 | sepult | mbent: so pin them maybe |
| 12:23.03 | alnr | themill: yep i dont have the chops to do this atm, i just want shortest and least risky path to get to a working apt |
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| 12:23.34 | Eulex | sepult, uh wth, you're recommending to mix stable, testing and unstable? |
| 12:23.51 | sepult | Eulex: i'm recommending to stay stable if possible |
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| 12:24.06 | Eulex | ok, misunderstood |
| 12:24.30 | sepult | Eulex: we aren't him, nor do we know if he already has a mixed system |
| 12:24.31 | themill | alnr: with the mess you have at the moment you have two options: reinstall lenny (stable) or move the entire box to sid and accept the consequences and risks associated with that. /msg dpkg sid |
| 12:25.00 | Eulex | mbent, have you checked the bts? |
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| 12:25.57 | mbent | Eulex, what package would it be under? :S |
| 12:26.08 | alnr | themill: ok, thank you for looking at it |
| 12:26.12 | themill | dpkg: tell mbent about bts |
| 12:26.12 | sepult | Eulex: i just once debootstrapped sid onto a parition and booted that one and some packages would really not work |
| 12:26.44 | Eulex | mbent, I don't know |
| 12:27.06 | mbent | i don't know how to find out either |
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| 12:32.52 | NativeAngels | hello can anyone tell me why when i startup debian 5 do i get just the file folders on the desktop and no apps panel ? |
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| 12:33.36 | devilofchaos | I thank you for your help:) network is now ready, it was on the kernel *gg* |
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| 12:34.45 | CatEater | how do i change screen resolution? |
| 12:35.09 | sepult | CatEater: in xorg.conf |
| 12:35.10 | NativeAngels | have you got the new debian 5 |
| 12:35.28 | CatEater | yes, it's 5 |
| 12:36.06 | CatEater | it offers this app for screen resolution, but no settings are listed in the dropdown boxes |
| 12:36.08 | NativeAngels | ok same here |
| 12:36.14 | NativeAngels | i had the same |
| 12:36.23 | sepult | CatEater: add Modes "1024x768" "bla" "bla" into the Section "Display" Section in Section "Screen" |
| 12:36.25 | CatEater | when i click the dropdowns it just draws this weird line across them |
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| 12:37.01 | sepult | CatEater: or add PreferredMode "bla" into the Section "Monitor" Section |
| 12:37.16 | sepult | CatEater: sorry Option "PreferredMode" "bla" |
| 12:37.54 | NativeAngels | why do i get a hal error when i log in |
| 12:38.41 | sepult | NativeAngels: because this project is to important for hal to allow you chaperdize it ? |
| 12:39.08 | CatEater | i can't find xorg.conf, it's not with the others |
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| 12:39.18 | DexterF | hi |
| 12:39.37 | sepult | CatEater: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 12:39.49 | DexterF | how do I best handle grub with multiple distros on one disk? |
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| 12:40.57 | sepult | DexterF: put a grub on mbr, then put a grub for every distro into the root of that distro and chainload all other grubs from master grub on mbr |
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| 12:42.01 | CatEater | there's hardly anything in here, why did it come up with a huge screen by default? |
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| 12:42.18 | weggpod | hy |
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| 12:42.30 | CatEater | there are literally no numeric resolutions specified, but it boots to a screen four times the size of my real display |
| 12:42.39 | weggpod | i have this kind of message: libssl0.9.8: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 is to be installed |
| 12:42.39 | weggpod | E: Broken packages |
| 12:42.46 | weggpod | i'm in etch |
| 12:42.50 | cr00k | I have been running lenny for a few weeks now, think its great, but a bit outdated allready, can I just change my sources.list to sid repo's and run a dist-upgrade to get bleeding edge packages? |
| 12:42.52 | cahoot | CatEater: could try define DisplaySize in xorg.conf |
| 12:43.02 | weggpod | and i d'ont understand why i have this message |
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| 12:43.25 | sepult | CatEater: it defaults to the available first supported by your monitor, read in your monitor instructions |
| 12:43.36 | asg | weggpod: do your sources say 'etch' or do they say 'stable'? |
| 12:43.54 | weggpod | etch |
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| 12:44.24 | CatEater | i don't know where to find "your monitor instructions" |
| 12:44.24 | asg | weggpod: pastebin them as well as the output of 'apt-cache policy' |
| 12:44.30 | weggpod | asg, my sourcelist: deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free |
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| 12:45.48 | sepult | CatEater: in your monitor's manual ?? |
| 12:45.57 | sepult | CatEater: don't have one ? |
| 12:46.00 | sepult | CatEater: lost it ? |
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| 12:46.39 | sepult | CatEater: no problem, google for the model and brand of your monitor |
| 12:46.48 | weggpod | asdf, thanks you my security repository were in stabe |
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| 12:47.20 | sepult | CatEater: it's all in the backside of the monitor, so write it down |
| 12:47.36 | sepult | on |
| 12:47.39 | sepult | on the backside |
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| 12:50.39 | wm4 | are there any apt repositories that provide kde3 for debian unstable? |
| 12:51.05 | NativeAngels | so why when i log into my desktop do i just get the folders on the left but no control panel |
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| 12:52.37 | CatEater | sepult: i can't find the back of the monitor |
| 12:52.47 | CatEater | it doesn't exist, debian 5 is running in virtualbox |
| 12:53.19 | CatEater | and "the first available" sounds like it would always be 640x480 to me |
| 12:53.45 | CatEater | why did x think it's ok to start with a really huge screen? |
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| 12:55.47 | sepult | CatEater: go to hell then |
| 12:56.01 | sepult | CatEater: and greet the devil of me |
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| 12:56.54 | CatEater | i don't think the devil cares whether i'm running it in virtualbox, unlike debian apparently |
| 12:57.18 | gravity | sepult: If you're not going to be reasonably polite, you'll be quieted |
| 12:57.22 | pabs3 | sepult: that wasn't appropriate at all |
| 12:57.31 | gravity | CatEater: X's default is to take the highest resolution possible. |
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| 12:57.45 | sepult | gravity: i told it already |
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| 12:58.17 | gravity | CatEater: You can set it as described in http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
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| 12:59.29 | DexterF | sepult: but I need one dist to "maintain" that "master" grub from, I can't have it standalone somehow, right? |
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| 13:00.05 | sepult | DexterF: you can have it on the mbr on it's own |
| 13:00.09 | gravity | CatEater: Basically, you have a weird configuration by running in virtualbox, so you've got to do some work to make X do the right thing in your case. X's defaults are optimized for the most common case. |
| 13:00.43 | DexterF | sepult: how? I mean, it needs at least to look up a menu.lst with the cahinloads |
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| 13:00.47 | DexterF | *chain |
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| 13:00.53 | sepult | DexterF: but if you want to have a grub folder in say /boot in your distro that's something else |
| 13:01.32 | DexterF | sepult: well, I never knew it any other way |
| 13:01.49 | sepult | DexterF: grub installs itself to the mbr, if you tell it so and puts all the files onto the grub folder for finding the menu.lst etc... |
| 13:02.11 | sepult | DexterF: grub itself does not need that grub folder |
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| 13:04.53 | DexterF | sepult: well.. how do I make it chainload then? lets make a practical example: I got sda with debian, slackware ans winxp in sda1, sda3 and sda5. now - I need to tell the mbr grub to chainload *somewhere*. how do I point it at sda1 if I don't have a menu.lst for it? |
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| 13:06.55 | sepult | DexterF: you better make a /boot partition on it's own, then have grub installed on mbr and put the grub folder in /boot so, then edit the menu.lst to find the other partitions |
| 13:07.37 | sepult | DexterF: do you understand me ? |
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| 13:08.04 | DexterF | sepult: ok. how do I tell grub to look into *that* partition for menu.lst instead of the /boot part of the dist I'm installing from? |
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| 13:09.23 | NativeAngels | so how do you restart the apps panel from cli |
| 13:09.30 | sepult | DexterF: something like root(bla,bla); makeactive; kernel /boot/blabla initrd /boot/blabla |
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| 13:10.04 | sepult | DexterF: or even root(bla,bla); makeactive; kernel (hd bla,bla)/boot/blabla initrd (hd bla,bla) /boot/blabla |
| 13:10.33 | nkuttler | NativeAngels: gnome? kde? |
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| 13:10.52 | NativeAngels | gnome |
| 13:10.57 | DexterF | sepult: not what I meant. in my example, debian and slack have a /boot dir (not partition) naturally. so let's say I make a partition and mount /boot there from lets say debian it will be debian's boot. not standlaone. right? |
| 13:10.59 | sepult | DexterF: you exactly don't need grub in any of the other distros |
| 13:11.28 | nkuttler | NativeAngels: try ls /usr/bin/*panel*, maybe you configured it that way though |
| 13:11.49 | DexterF | wants grub2... |
| 13:11.50 | NativeAngels | i just installed it from disk |
| 13:11.51 | nkuttler | NativeAngels: mv .gnome* foo usually helps |
| 13:12.09 | nkuttler | NativeAngels: are you even sure you are running gnome? |
| 13:12.30 | NativeAngels | the desktop is there with the file folders on the left |
| 13:12.36 | NativeAngels | thats it no control panel |
| 13:12.56 | CatEater | is there an example of a xrandr command that actually does something? i tried "xrandr --output 0 --mode 640x480", like on that page, and it didn't do anything visible or even produce a message |
| 13:13.11 | CatEater | i have no idea which part of that page i was supposed to read |
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| 13:14.25 | gravity | CatEater: Which driver are you running? |
| 13:14.46 | sepult | DexterF: let me explain it like that; i have just one grub, which is debian's on mbr, i have also other partitions with other distros, my debian has a /boot dir not a partition, if i now edit the menu.lst of debian i can also reach other partitions i.e the other distros, if i have now say gentoo installed and want to boot it i have to tell my grub on what partition gentoos kernel is to be found so i tell grub which partition to root on an |
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| 13:15.36 | DexterF | sepult: I thought it would come down to this - so, debian is your "master" grub after all |
| 13:16.23 | DexterF | that's exactly what I'd like to avoid. seems there's no easy way. apart from grub2 which won't be stable until god knows when |
| 13:16.53 | sepult | DexterF: the problem, is , when every distro comes with it's own grub, and you install them, then the boot order of that partitions may change |
| 13:17.22 | sepult | DexterF: or they may be not reachable by grub |
| 13:17.27 | NativeAngels | nkuttler |
| 13:17.29 | DexterF | sigh |
| 13:17.48 | sepult | DexterF: so it is better to have really one grub |
| 13:18.05 | sepult | DexterF: and boot into everywhere |
| 13:18.23 | DexterF | sepult: which means I have to maually merge kernel updates into the master grub |
| 13:18.26 | DexterF | which sorta sucks. |
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| 13:19.06 | sepult | DexterF: like i told you if you want you can have a grub in every distro's root and chainload |
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| 13:19.28 | DexterF | but not without one standalone bootloader |
| 13:19.51 | DexterF | unless I install grub into every root and use something completely different in mbr |
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| 13:20.26 | sepult | DexterF: you can take whichever grub you want even for the mbr |
| 13:20.52 | DexterF | sepult: no. I can't. it has to refer to a menu.lst that ist installed in at least one distro. |
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| 13:22.32 | CatEater | gravity: whichever one came with debian 5, i don't know how to find out or even what sort of thing it is |
| 13:22.55 | Eulex | CatEater, what hardware? |
| 13:23.01 | sepult | DexterF: it doesn't have to refer to a menu.lst |
| 13:23.07 | Mamonth | Hello ppl! I need some help. I've changed my old hdd and I need to install debian to the new one. So I've download the Debian's net-install cd, but when I try to use it writes that kernel modules doesn't mach to the kernel, so installer can't load suitable drivers for my hardware. So my network card does't work, so I can't use it. Now I have not more emty CDs to experiment with other variants and have only usb-pen drive. How can I install debian u |
| 13:23.23 | DexterF | sepult: yes, it does. how else does it knwo where to chainload. |
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| 13:24.13 | sepult | DexterF: you point it to where it chainloads |
| 13:24.25 | cahoot | CatEater: did you try define DisplaySize in xorg.conf? might also try disable readEDID |
| 13:25.44 | DexterF | point it HOW, sepult. example: i want it to come up with a selection 1. deb 2. slack 3. win and chainload to these. I have to tell it *somewhere* about that 1-2-3 list |
| 13:25.54 | izua | i'm looking to buy a new soundcard, which should work on linux. i don't mean just work, but be exceptionally suported, almost native, so to say :) |
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| 13:26.20 | izua | i need midi and spdif (optical) io. any suggestions |
| 13:26.23 | sepult | DexterF: in grub you can go into commandline mode and thell the root (hd bla,bla) then do a setup (hd bla,bla) for every distro |
| 13:26.31 | sepult | DexterF: what's the problem with it ? |
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| 13:27.12 | cahoot | izua: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 13:27.31 | sepult | DexterF: when you presss e, you'll get into commandline or shell mode |
| 13:27.46 | CatEater | Eulex: virtualbox |
| 13:27.49 | sepult | DexterF: there you can tell which partition to setup for, so |
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| 13:28.03 | cahoot | izua: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Alsa_Preferred_Soundcards more specifically |
| 13:28.26 | sepult | DexterF: it just has to be in mbr, and it will put onto every root's /boot dir a grub conf folder |
| 13:28.29 | CatEater | cahoot: where's the thing that says how to write that line again? |
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| 13:28.45 | gravity | CatEater: Read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 13:29.01 | DexterF | sepult: good lord man, we ain't living in the computer dark age anymore. ill just look out for a boot loader that can chainload ans sits standalone in the mbr |
| 13:29.01 | gravity | CatEater: That'll tell you which video driver you're loading |
| 13:29.03 | Eulex | CatEater, you're _probably_ using the vesa driver then, and... does that one have proper xrandr support? does xrandr output other modes available? |
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| 13:29.13 | DexterF | thanks for the talk anyway |
| 13:29.16 | gravity | CatEater: Have you never used UNIX before or something? |
| 13:29.35 | sepult | DexterF: ok, you can have grub2 then |
| 13:29.40 | sepult | lol |
| 13:29.56 | DexterF | grub2 explodes as of now |
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| 13:30.21 | sepult | DexterF: ok ok use something which suits you better, there are loads of mbr loaders |
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| 13:30.57 | Eulex | CatEater, also, --output requires xrandr 1.2 I believe, and the vesa driver sure doesn't have that. Use 1.0/1.1 options of anything. |
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| 13:31.03 | DexterF | I know, problem is I don't know which of them is good. ill ask around on my lug list.. |
| 13:31.06 | Eulex | *if anything |
| 13:32.00 | Eulex | CatEater, that is, basically -s |
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| 13:32.05 | sepult | DexterF: ok, it's a while since i had a windows boot loader named something like BTS or so |
| 13:32.18 | sepult | DexterF: just google |
| 13:32.54 | CatEater | gravity: correct, the only unix programs i know how to use are ls, vi, and nethack |
| 13:33.08 | CatEater | oh and man, that's a good one |
| 13:33.09 | sepult | DexterF: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot-Loader |
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| 13:33.24 | icenine | CatEater: you're at the faster part of the learning curve then |
| 13:33.31 | icenine | tomorrow you'll probably know how to use 10 or 20 |
| 13:33.40 | Mamonth | Does anybody know how to install debian using usb-flash? |
| 13:33.56 | sepult | Mamonth: install or bootfrom ? |
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| 13:34.19 | anoHito | i run top,says 2 users |
| 13:34.23 | sepult | Mamonth: one means you handle usb like cdrom, the other like hd |
| 13:34.24 | Mamonth | install |
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| 13:34.29 | anoHito | who is the other person ? |
| 13:34.37 | anoHito | i run 'who', there is only me root. |
| 13:35.18 | Mamonth | <sepult> I need install it onto pc.. but i have not cd-s... so i want to use it like install cd |
| 13:35.37 | gravity | oy... |
| 13:36.45 | AlHafoudh | hi all |
| 13:36.56 | sepult | Mamonth: http://www.debian.de/distrib/netinst |
| 13:37.03 | AlHafoudh | jelly: hi |
| 13:37.09 | jelly-home | hello |
| 13:37.23 | sepult | Mamonth: there is a link for usb sticks |
| 13:37.29 | sepult | Mamonth: stick to that |
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| 13:40.38 | Mamonth | sepult: mmm... I have used a cd-version of that, but it doesn't work... but I'll try it |
| 13:40.48 | sepult | Mamonth: wait |
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| 13:41.46 | Mamonth | sepult: there are other ways? |
| 13:42.01 | sepult | Mamonth: you'll have to get the hd-media/boot.img.gz from http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 13:42.28 | sepult | Mamonth: then just zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb1 or /dev/usb whichever your stick is mounted to |
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| 13:42.52 | sepult | Mamonth: then put just the netinst cd iso image onto the usb too |
| 13:42.55 | Mamonth | sepult: ok... but my linux box is down right now |
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| 13:43.17 | iateadonut1 | how do i get my pocket device on usb0 (that i can ssh into - i can see it and it can see me) to see other computers on the net, including the router, so it can connect to the internet? |
| 13:43.33 | sepult | Mamonth: i mean it has to be umounted of course |
| 13:44.02 | sepult | Mamonth: you don't need linux for that |
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| 13:44.39 | Mamonth | sepult: what about zcat > /dev/sdb1... |
| 13:45.27 | Mamonth | sepult: how can I do it without linux? |
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| 13:46.52 | sepult | Mamonth: http://www.strassenprogrammierer.de/unix-tools-wie-grep-sed-oder-tail-f??r-windows-nachr??sten_tipp_348.html |
| 13:47.09 | sepult | Mamonth: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 13:47.31 | sepult | Mamonth: there are windows equivalents of them |
| 13:48.46 | Mamonth | sepult: how interesting! ok, i'll try it |
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| 13:49.44 | Mamonth | sepult: but there is no device like /dev/sdb1 in win |
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| 13:50.48 | sepult | Mamonth: i'm sure there is a documentation of the tools, be it in commandline on windows with --help or so, or the tools just use the windows equivalent names of them or even understand both windows names and linux ones |
| 13:51.03 | Mamonth | sepult: and download link seems to be broken |
| 13:51.42 | sepult | Mamonth: it is not broken |
| 13:51.42 | Mamonth | sepult: oops.. link is ok |
| 13:51.46 | sepult | Mamonth: i have it open now |
| 13:52.03 | Mamonth | sepult: thnx =) |
| 13:53.11 | sepult | Mamonth: youre welcome |
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| 13:53.45 | careta | hello |
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| 13:54.29 | sepult | there are even tools for accessing ext3 ext2 filesystems for windows |
| 13:54.41 | careta | I have a doubt about the use of make-kpkg. I want to compile the kernel using intel icc compiler. Can i make the kernel first and then make-kpkg as usual, or make-kpkg will build the kernel from scratch every time? |
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| 13:59.01 | Mikelo | hi I have to expand a /home partition over a root partition and recopy it over |
| 13:59.24 | AlHafoudh | i have lost directory after loosing power to my server, how can i get it back? it was ext3 fs |
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| 13:59.53 | sepult | e2fsck ? |
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| 14:00.06 | Mikelo | but I read that parted doesn't work ... so I was thinking of using resize2fs |
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| 14:02.58 | themill | AlHafoudh: check in the lost+found directory on that partition (and hope) |
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| 14:03.45 | AlHafoudh | themill: nothing in lost+found :( |
| 14:03.57 | AlHafoudh | sepult: no change |
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| 14:04.32 | Mikelo | this is my situation http://paste.debian.net/33934/ ... as u can see my / partition is almost full... I would like to free up my home partition, expand it make that my root partition |
| 14:04.44 | themill | !tape backup |
| 14:04.44 | dpkg | "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)" -- Linus Torvalds |
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| 14:05.44 | themill | Mikelo: that's a huge / that you have already. Have you done the standard things like looking for huge logfiles, unneeded kernels, run apt-get clean etc? |
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| 14:06.35 | Mikelo | themill, I even mounted /var/cache/apt externally |
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| 14:06.59 | Mikelo | themill, that's a good idea about the uneeded kernels |
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| 14:12.51 | themill | Mikelo: my laptop has a hell of a lot of packages installed on it and (with a similar parititioning scheme to you), / is only 6 GB. |
| 14:13.21 | valdyn | hmm, this desktop is about like Mikelos |
| 14:13.28 | valdyn | with ~15G packages |
| 14:13.33 | AlHafoudh | any idea/ |
| 14:13.34 | AlHafoudh | ? |
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| 14:13.52 | valdyn | same games just do take alot of space |
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| 14:14.31 | valdyn | Mikelo: fslint can show you installed packages sorted by size |
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| 14:15.03 | Mikelo | valdyn, purfect! |
| 14:15.47 | valdyn | few rts games + latex makes like 3G already |
| 14:16.01 | l403 | hey, I cant discover my PC with usb bluetooth dongle. I need to pair with my phone. I cando it ttrough gnome but I need to be able to do it trough the terminal |
| 14:16.25 | l403 | the device is in these modes UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN |
| 14:16.35 | valdyn | jdk docs are huge too, and useless if you have internet |
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| 14:19.37 | uzbek | hi everybody! |
| 14:20.02 | MegafEee | hi, how to use awstats? |
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| 14:20.19 | MegafEee | id like to see stats about apache logs |
| 14:20.51 | uzbek | i have an external hard drive, filesystem is fat32. I want to make unused part of it a ext4 filesystem. how can do that? gparted didn't help thanx!!! |
| 14:21.26 | MegafEee | cfdisk? |
| 14:22.01 | sepult | uzbek: don't repartition it just create the filesystem on it |
| 14:22.19 | sepult | uzbek: mkfs.ext4 or so |
| 14:22.56 | sepult | uzbek: repartitioning it may make it unbootable, you have to take of using mbr in that case |
| 14:23.05 | sepult | care |
| 14:23.08 | sepult | take care |
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| 14:23.31 | pleed | Is there a way to set minimal file creation permissions on a directory (opposite of umask) ? |
| 14:23.31 | uzbek | but i have some data in it, i don't like to lose it |
| 14:24.02 | pleed | So that everyone creates his files at least with 775 for example |
| 14:24.16 | sepult | uzbek: and then you want to partition it or make a filesystem on it ? |
| 14:24.40 | sepult | uzbek: you told you want to repartition it or didn't you ? |
| 14:25.09 | sepult | uzbek: if you have files on it don't repartition and don't make a filesystem on it |
| 14:25.29 | uzbek | sepult, im newbie, so it is hard to explain what i want :) i just want to create another filesystem in my external hard disk, along with fat32 keeping all the data |
| 14:25.33 | sepult | uzbek: or copy your files somewhere else then repartition it and make a filesystem on it then copy them back over |
| 14:25.45 | sepult | uzbek: oh ok |
| 14:26.19 | sepult | uzbek: if fat32 is covering all the space on your stick you'd have to shrink it first |
| 14:26.36 | sepult | uzbek: so to leave space for another partition |
| 14:26.54 | sepult | uzbek: fips may be an alternative doing that |
| 14:27.01 | uzbek | sepult, how can shrink it? one third of it unused |
| 14:27.24 | sepult | uzbek: fips can shrink it or some of the windows tools out there |
| 14:27.42 | uzbek | ok, sepult thanx i'll try fips |
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| 14:28.28 | ringo999 | whats a good alternative to xpdf? |
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| 14:30.02 | sepult | evince, okular |
| 14:30.08 | sepult | gv |
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| 14:30.26 | ringo999 | thanks |
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| 14:37.50 | itrebal | I had one IP address, and I had to add a second one because the original was tainted by the previous owner. I've done that, but I need the outgoing traffic to go (by default) through that interface. My routing table is showing that (http://pasteninja.com/paste/2281) but I still can't access some of the services that where blocked by the original IP. However, when I explicitly say --interface eth0 it goes through. |
| 14:38.08 | itrebal | How can I force the system to recognize the change? |
| 14:38.25 | careta | I have a doubt about the use of make-kpkg. I want to compile the kernel using intel icc compiler. Can i make the kernel first and then make-kpkg as usual, or make-kpkg will build the kernel from scratch every time? |
| 14:38.38 | efaistos | hi ... how to change the resolution of xorg ? with the new xorg my xorg.conf is empty .... and I have an out of range error |
| 14:38.42 | efaistos | on the screen |
| 14:39.23 | careta | efaistos, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ? |
| 14:39.33 | ultraj6 | host cluster for virtual machines using xen http://www.rocksclusters.org/roll-documentation/xen/5.1/ |
| 14:39.41 | efaistos | careta: yeah of course |
| 14:39.50 | efaistos | but it generates a new config |
| 14:39.55 | efaistos | but still out of range |
| 14:42.41 | careta | efaistos, try #xorg |
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| 14:43.12 | itrebal | http://pasteninja.com/paste/2282 Here is my interfaces file |
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| 14:46.26 | Wyzard | careta: You can probably just set CC=icc (or whatever the right command is) when running make-kpkg |
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| 14:47.13 | careta | thanks Wyzard |
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| 14:48.05 | careta | Wyzard, but if I already have a compiled kernel source tree, make-kpkg will only build the package, not recompile the kernel, right? |
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| 14:48.53 | Wyzard | careta: It uses "stamp" files (empty files with names like "stamp-build") to keep track of which steps have been done already |
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| 14:49.07 | Wyzard | If you compile manually, that won't create a stamp file so make-kpkg might try to build again |
| 14:49.18 | l403 | hey, I cant discover my PC with usb bluetooth dongle. I need to pair with my phone. I cando it ttrough gnome but I need to be able to do it trough the terminal. the device is in these modes UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN |
| 14:49.27 | Wyzard | but even if it tries, make might not actually do anything if all the object files are up-to-date |
| 14:49.35 | Wyzard | so I don't know; try it and see, I guess |
| 14:49.41 | careta | I see. thanks for the info. |
| 14:50.10 | Wyzard | You could compile and then create the stamp file manually if necessary |
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| 14:53.06 | rabbit7 | hey, can anybody tell me how I can install the package dovecot-antispam in lenny ? it seems to be only available in sid |
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| 14:54.01 | sepult | rabbit7: get it from www.backports.org ?? |
| 14:54.21 | sepult | rabbit7: if it's available there |
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| 14:55.04 | rabbit7 | nai its not |
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| 14:55.43 | sepult | rabbit7: the other alternative would be the experimental branch |
| 14:56.13 | sepult | rabbit7: with proper pinning |
| 14:56.17 | unop | !tell rabbit7 about backport |
| 14:56.33 | sepult | !backports |
| 14:56.33 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
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| 14:57.32 | unop | !backport |
| 14:57.32 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, <backports.org> |
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| 14:59.52 | rabbit7 | I dont know about pinning.. i guess i can just build the source package from hand can I ? |
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| 15:00.19 | unop | rabbit7, see !simple sid backport instead |
| 15:00.24 | themill | rabbit7: yeah, has a reasonable chance of working. /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 15:03.17 | ajavid | good morning |
| 15:03.35 | ajavid | unop, don't type so much |
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| 15:03.46 | ajavid | unop, /msg dpkg ssb ;) |
| 15:04.37 | bananahands | Wyzard: how do I check the results of smartctl -t long? I know that two of the drives were successful with no errors, but not sure about the third because I went to sleep |
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| 15:05.34 | Wyzard | bananahands: smartctl -l selftest /dev/foo |
| 15:05.50 | AlexJ_ | hello |
| 15:06.17 | jhutchins | How do I get apt to ignore an "unmet" |
| 15:06.19 | pixelmonkey | does anyone know a way I could remove all packages that I have installed which don't have any installation candidates in my list of apt repositories? |
| 15:06.20 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.36 | rabbit7 | thanks a lot the simple backport worked like a charm ! |
| 15:06.36 | AlexJ_ | i did an install with gnome gui...but i don't need it anymore..what's the runlevel for no-gui? (systemv runlevels don't seem to work :( ) |
| 15:06.54 | themill | !wayttd jhutchins |
| 15:06.54 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, jhutchins? |
| 15:07.34 | Wyzard | pixelmonkey: Run aptitude in interactive mode and look in the "obsolete and locally-created packages" section |
| 15:07.35 | jhutchins | dpkg: I installed pine, which had a dependency of an old library. I solved it by symlinking the newer lib, and it works fine, but every time I run apt it wants to remove pine. |
| 15:07.35 | dpkg | You are moron #1, jhutchins |
| 15:07.48 | Wyzard | pixelmonkey: Everything in there is what you're looking for |
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| 15:08.24 | jhutchins | AlexJ_: runlevels aren't really implemented in Debian, you have to build your own. |
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| 15:08.43 | AlexJ_ | really?:( |
| 15:08.44 | jhutchins | AlexJ_: I take it you don't need kde either? |
| 15:08.51 | sepult | whiptail is buggy |
| 15:08.54 | rabbit7 | I just upgraded my server from etch to lenny.. do you guys think its ok for a server to be on sid ? |
| 15:08.56 | AlexJ_ | ok..then what do i have to apt-get purge to get rid of gui? |
| 15:08.58 | sepult | it scrambles the screen |
| 15:09.00 | pixelmonkey | Wyzard, indeed... this looks like what I need. |
| 15:09.13 | themill | rabbit7: stick with stable or oldstable for a server |
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| 15:09.28 | jhutchins | AlexJ_: There's a "purekde" faq for ubuntu that might help. |
| 15:09.40 | AlexJ_ | what is purekde? |
| 15:09.58 | themill | AlexJ_: /msg dpkg nodm ; /msg dpkg remove gnome ; /msg dpkg remove kde |
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| 15:10.21 | bananahands | Wyzard: http://pastebin.com/meb0572e |
| 15:10.27 | sepult | DDave give up |
| 15:10.30 | AlexJ_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.30 | sepult | lol |
| 15:10.33 | bananahands | Wyzard: I am still waiting for sdd2 |
| 15:10.35 | AlexJ_ | sry |
| 15:10.45 | themill | jhutchins: goes alpine work for you instead of pine? |
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| 15:11.16 | jhutchins | themill: Never heard of it. |
| 15:11.22 | themill | judd info alpine |
| 15:11.23 | judd | themill: alpine (mail): is optional; Version: 1.10+dfsg-3; Size: 2704.1k; Installed: 6036k -- Text-based email client, friendly for novices but powerful |
| 15:11.43 | Wyzard | bananahands: "completed: read failure" sounds like the drive found problems in its self-test... you should look into replacing that drive |
| 15:11.45 | themill | jhutchins: it's a free rewrite of pine |
| 15:11.49 | Wyzard | (should be under warranty if it's new) |
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| 15:12.25 | bananahands | sighs yeah, I have already replaced a bunch of these, butI will do it again |
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| 15:13.46 | jhutchins | themill: Great, a little symlink so I don't have to remember to type alpine and it's all set. Thanks. |
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| 15:14.05 | themill | jhutchins: :) |
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| 15:14.17 | pixelmonkey | Wyzard, I don't know why I haven't used aptitude earlier, it's so clever! :-) |
| 15:14.36 | Wyzard | bananahands: I'm not sure what you mean about sdd2 -- you can't run smartctl on a partition |
| 15:14.49 | boghog | anyone know how to get the 'mysqli' extention for php5 on Debian lenny? or is this included in php5-mysql ? |
| 15:14.50 | themill | pixelmonkey: from lenny onwards, you can also "aptitude search ~o" at the command line |
| 15:14.55 | Wyzard | pixelmonkey: yep, especially for browsing around dependencies |
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| 15:15.06 | bananahands | Wyzard: sdd |
| 15:15.30 | themill | boghog: apt-cache show php5-mysql |
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| 15:15.38 | Wyzard | pixelmonkey: (bring up a package's info, highlight another package name in its dependency list, and press enter to get that package's info) |
| 15:16.00 | Wyzard | bananahands: sdd still says the test is in progress? |
| 15:16.23 | boghog | themill, thanks, will have to remember that for next time I have such a question :D |
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| 15:17.15 | themill | boghog: the package long description is also shown to you on packages.debian.org or in interactive package programs like aptitude and synaptic. |
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| 15:18.04 | boghog | cool |
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| 15:19.10 | NativeAngels | hello can anyone tell me why the apps panel would disapear in debian5 |
| 15:19.57 | bananahands | Wyzard: yes it is in progress, how do I check its status again? |
| 15:20.40 | Wyzard | bananahands: smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdd |
| 15:20.55 | NativeAngels | im using debian lenny and gnome btw |
| 15:21.01 | Wyzard | There's no progress indication other than the percentage shown there (which always seems to be 90% for some reason) |
| 15:21.13 | klaz168 | NativeAngels, check if auto hide is checked |
| 15:21.16 | Wyzard | It's an internal test done by the drive's own firmware; that's why there's not much feedback |
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| 15:21.43 | NativeAngels | i cant do that as all im getting it the desktop with the folders on the left but no control panels |
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| 15:22.21 | orioni | how can i get an email with the files changed during the last 24hours with the user that changed that |
| 15:22.31 | orioni | sthing like a security report |
| 15:22.34 | orioni | ? |
| 15:22.42 | NativeAngels | any ideas klaz168 |
| 15:23.14 | lordnazgul | so i upgraded from etch to lenny, and didn't accept the new exim config file because i didn't want to wipe out my configs. now i am having troubles because the config syntax has changed. how do i get dpkg to offer me the updated config again |
| 15:23.32 | module000 | dpkg --reconfigure |
| 15:23.32 | dpkg | wish i knew, module000 |
| 15:23.34 | Wyzard | orioni: The "find" command, with -mtime option, can tell you what files have been modified in the past 24 hours |
| 15:23.36 | themill | lordnazgul: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 15:23.45 | Wyzard | orioni: but there's no record of what user modified them |
| 15:23.55 | lordnazgul | themill that doesnt work because exim4-config is not properly set up |
| 15:24.01 | module000 | what he said |
| 15:24.04 | themill | orioni: aide might be of interest to you. |
| 15:24.05 | klaz168 | NativeAngels, after logging in you have no panels at all, only icons on desktop? |
| 15:24.11 | NativeAngels | yes |
| 15:24.13 | orioni | we are 3 root admins on a system , and we want to have that kind of report |
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| 15:24.48 | orioni | it would be especially usefull with what was changed on the files and who changed that |
| 15:24.59 | module000 | lordnazgul: backup your current config...and let reconfigure write a new one, then you can compare |
| 15:25.00 | Wyzard | orioni: There might be some sort of auditing facility you can set up to log anytime a user opens a file for writing |
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| 15:25.25 | orioni | sth like remote syslogin ? |
| 15:25.32 | pixelmonkey | I'm about to embark on an aptitude reinstall '~i' (reinstall all packages) to fix root FS corruption I got on a machine. Will this also be prompting me about restoring configuration files? What I'd like ideally is for it to only replace configuration files that are missing, but not replace any that are still on-disk. |
| 15:25.39 | themill | lordnazgul: what do you mean "not properly set up"? |
| 15:25.47 | NativeAngels | any ideaz klaz168 |
| 15:25.54 | module000 | pixelmonkey: the FS itself is corrupt? how will reinstalling packages fix that? |
| 15:25.55 | Wyzard | orioni: auditing file modifications has nothing to do with remote logins |
| 15:26.11 | pixelmonkey | module000, no, I've recovered a root FS that was corrupt using fsck, and now some files are missing. |
| 15:26.18 | orioni | remote logging what was changed i.e syslog-ng etc |
| 15:26.24 | module000 | pixelmonkey: ahhhh. backup /etc |
| 15:26.28 | Wyzard | pixelmonkey: dpkg -i --force-confmiss |
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| 15:26.41 | themill | pixelmonkey: debsums might be what you're looking for then |
| 15:26.51 | klaz168 | NativeAngels, on desktop right click, create launcher and run gnome-terminal |
| 15:26.55 | lordnazgul | themill exim4-config is broken or not fully installed |
| 15:27.00 | klaz168 | NativeAngels, from there try gnome-panel |
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| 15:27.10 | themill | lordnazgul: apt-get -f install |
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| 15:28.16 | pixelmonkey | themill, I'm intrigued... this is what I'm looking for! |
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| 15:28.31 | module000 | pixelmonkey: if this system is a home system...consider a dirty config backup to help you in the future. like a cronjob that tar's /etc, bzip2's it, and emails it to you |
| 15:28.49 | orioni | Wyzard : what aobut selinux ? |
| 15:29.17 | pixelmonkey | themill, wow, debsums -l | xargs aptitude reinstall is definitely what I want, and that probably saves me a whole bunch of time! |
| 15:29.19 | orioni | would that do the job on debian ? |
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| 15:29.32 | pixelmonkey | there are only about 20 packages that look like their md5sums are bad |
| 15:29.44 | Wyzard | orioni: That's for access control; I don't think it does auditing like you're looking for |
| 15:29.52 | Wyzard | but I don't know much about it so I can't say for sure |
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| 15:30.03 | orioni | i understand |
| 15:30.05 | themill | pixelmonkey: you may also like debsums to double check config files for you |
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| 15:30.50 | Wyzard | orioni: but the kernel has built-in auditing facilities that you should look into |
| 15:31.02 | orioni | can u give me some names |
| 15:31.26 | orioni | or u mean that i have to recompile so i can enable them ? |
| 15:32.04 | Wyzard | orioni: The "auditd" package looks like what you'd use to take advantage of Linux's auditing facilities |
| 15:32.12 | Wyzard | but I've never used it and don't know anything about configuring it |
| 15:32.19 | orioni | aha , ok |
| 15:32.22 | orioni | thanx anyway |
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| 15:35.28 | bananahands | Wyzard: http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-GB&name=SeaTools&vgnextoid=4b7300bc350ce010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD |
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| 15:35.56 | bananahands | Wyzard: so Seagate recommends their own software to test the hard drives because it apparently can fix errors too, you ever use Seatools? |
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| 15:37.39 | Wyzard | bananahands: SeaTools mostly does the same thing as the smartctl scan you just did, though it may know about some additional Seagate-specific commands that the drive supports |
| 15:38.01 | soa2ii | Hi there. Can someone recommend me a source where I can learn what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude? |
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| 15:38.09 | zak_ | how to format my memory card ?i can delete any files fro mthat card ? |
| 15:38.18 | Wyzard | bananahands: If it "fixes" errors, it does it by forcing the drive to remap bad sectors with spare ones, which drives can do automatically anyway, so I don't think there's that much of a benefit |
| 15:38.40 | bananahands | Wyzard: I will probably just return it then |
| 15:38.49 | Wyzard | bananahands: However, you should scan your sdb again with SeaTools because it'll give you an error code that you can use when requesting an RMA |
| 15:38.50 | bananahands | Wyzard: hopefully sdd is good |
| 15:38.53 | pixelmonkey | themill, I actually have to run debsums_init first as it looks like that will restore the md5sums for packages whose md5sums have been deleted |
| 15:38.59 | zinx | Wyzard: they will only do that automatically if they can read the bad sector |
| 15:39.01 | bananahands | Wyzard: okay |
| 15:39.11 | zak_ | what commad shall i use to delete all files in my memory card ?i can not delete them manually |
| 15:39.36 | Wyzard | zinx: so an unreadable sector will never be remapped and thus always be unreadable? |
| 15:39.47 | zinx | Wyzard: no, it will be remapped as soon as it's written |
| 15:40.00 | Wyzard | ok, that makes sense |
| 15:40.16 | Wyzard | and I figure that doing a full SMART scan will make the drive notice and remap any bad sectors that may exist |
| 15:40.26 | Wyzard | but I doubt programs like SeaTools do any more than that |
| 15:40.45 | bananahands | bleh, they don't have a version recent enough for new drives anyway |
| 15:40.46 | zinx | it will try to remap them, yes. as i say though, it won't remap until it knows what data should go there |
| 15:41.20 | zinx | it tries to read the sector a certain number of times (defined by the drive) and will eventually give up and just report it back as bad |
| 15:41.28 | themill | pixelmonkey: You can also make an apt hook to generate missing debsums on install for any packages that are missing them (for future use!) |
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| 15:42.03 | zinx | and it will be listed in SMART as "pending" |
| 15:42.15 | Wyzard | ah |
| 15:42.16 | zinx | uhm, "Current_Pending_Sector" or something in smartctl |
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| 15:42.44 | pixelmonkey | themill, quick question. debsums lists files that FAILED to match md5sum, but is there a way for me to list package? Or do I have to take this list of files and then use dpkg -S on each one? |
| 15:42.47 | Wyzard | bananahands: You shouldn't need a special version of SeaTools for a new drive |
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| 15:47.45 | themill | pixelmonkey: you might need to feed them through apt-file. (I thought debsums told you the package though... seems an obvious thing to include!) |
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| 15:48.26 | DeSian | how can i save gamix settings? |
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| 16:00.32 | balazsbela_ | Why do I get hash sum mismatch when updating apt ? |
| 16:00.36 | iateadonut1 | i've got a device connected on usb0 |
| 16:00.37 | iateadonut1 | connected to the internet, etc. i can ssh into it. |
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| 16:00.49 | iateadonut1 | what's the best way for my two computers to share files, etc? |
| 16:01.03 | Wyzard | balazsbela: That happens if the mirror is in the middle of updating itself, so the lists have been updated but the signatures haven't yet (or vice-versa) |
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| 16:01.10 | Wyzard | balazsbela: Wait awhile and try again |
| 16:02.11 | jpinx | In lenny when I add a line for backports from squeeze, does it go " deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ lenny-backports main contrib non-free " and to install from there I'd do " aptitude -t lenny-backports install <package> " Am I right here? |
| 16:02.20 | jhutchins | Interesting. mt: invalid argument `setblk' for `tape operation' - this is using the default flexbackup config file... |
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| 16:12.28 | balazsbela_ | Wyzard: I get it quite frequently |
| 16:12.32 | balazsbela_ | it's not the first time |
| 16:13.14 | Wyzard | Maybe you frequently update at a time when the mirror is updating too |
| 16:13.23 | balazsbela_ | lucky me :D |
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| 16:14.34 | bananahands | Wyzard: there is no version for linux that is recent enough to work is what I was told fromt he rep |
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| 16:14.59 | Wyzard | bananahands: of SeaTools? |
| 16:15.19 | Wyzard | The usual way to use it is with a bootable CD or floppy image |
| 16:15.40 | Wyzard | doesn't matter what OS you normally run because you boot SeaTools directly |
| 16:15.56 | bananahands | Wyzard: there version is downloadable for Windows and linux |
| 16:16.05 | bananahands | but the linux one is not up to dat |
| 16:16.07 | bananahands | *date |
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| 16:16.13 | Wyzard | I do remember reading something about a Linux version, but I think it was only for SCSI drives or something like that |
| 16:16.18 | Wyzard | and maybe they don't maintain it anymore |
| 16:16.21 | Wyzard | Get the bootable one |
| 16:16.22 | bananahands | yeah |
| 16:16.41 | bananahands | where? |
| 16:17.49 | Wyzard | It's the "DOS" version that's the first thing on that page you linked earlier |
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| 16:18.17 | sepult | i can't find the java-6u12-docs.zip |
| 16:18.17 | Wyzard | (and the Linux/Windows "enterprise edition" is listed under "legacy tools" at the bottom of the drive, so it sounds like they don't maintain that anymore) |
| 16:18.28 | sepult | which site does one download it |
| 16:18.30 | jhutchins | Resolved. |
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| 16:19.13 | Wyzard | sepult: probably java.sun.com |
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| 16:19.33 | Wyzard | sepult: but Debian has a package of that (or is the package just an installer that requires you to download the real docs?) |
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| 16:20.47 | oxi | hi |
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| 16:21.08 | oxi | sudo dmesg | grep -o -E '([[:xdigit:]]{1,2}:){5}[[:xdigit:]]{1,2}' will output two mac addresses |
| 16:21.19 | oxi | but I only want to display one of them |
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| 16:21.49 | valdyn | oxi: so? |
| 16:21.52 | oxi | I'd like to display the one that begins with Auth: |
| 16:21.54 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.05 | oxi | I'm not that good at regex, can anyone help :-) |
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| 16:22.16 | valdyn | oxi: | grep Auth |
| 16:22.35 | bananahands | Wyzard: is there a way to display the serial no. of which drive is which so that when I remove one to replace it, I can see which is sdb? |
| 16:22.42 | oxi | valdyn: yeah, but I'd like to include the regex above so that only the mac is output |
| 16:23.06 | valdyn | oxi: dmesg | grep Auth | grep -o -E '([[:xdigit:]]{1,2}:){5}[[:xdigit:]]{1,2}' |
| 16:23.08 | oxi | -E '(Auth)([[:xdigit:]]{1,2}:){5}[[:xdigit:]]{1,2}' ? |
| 16:23.28 | valdyn | oxi: but thats probably to simple uh? |
| 16:23.29 | oxi | valdyn: perfec, I totally forgot about multiple piping! |
| 16:23.36 | oxi | valdyn: thanks a lot! |
| 16:25.08 | Wyzard | bananahands: gnome-device-manager on my system shows a "storage.serial" property for my drives, so apparently it's accessible through software |
| 16:25.12 | oxi | how can I limit the output to one line |
| 16:25.19 | oxi | I tried adding -m=1 |
| 16:25.22 | oxi | but it didn't work |
| 16:25.27 | Wyzard | bananahands: It's probably coming from some file in /sys/class/block/sdb/device, but I don't know which |
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| 16:32.44 | pleed | Does anyone know how to accomplish the following: one directory where several users have rwx on all files in the directories and can create files and directories which are also accessible by the other users, i ve tried using a group and setting g+s on the directory but that doesnt work for files in subdirectories. |
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| 16:38.43 | rimini | Hi. I have a an atheros pci wifi card (AR2413) that i'm trying to set up, and I really have no clue how to do it. |
| 16:38.56 | rimini | So i googled it and found this : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=164094 |
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| 16:39.31 | rimini | But it seems outdated. svn.madwifi.org doesn't exists anymore. Anyone knows if madwifi changed this ? |
| 16:39.41 | rimini | Or do I have to use something else ? |
| 16:40.17 | rimini | (Than mad wifi, a free kernel module in the main kernel repository perhaps ?= |
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| 16:41.07 | cahoot | ath5k possibly |
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| 16:44.58 | rimini | " <info> Now managing wireless (802.11) device 'wlan0'." <= I guess this means that ath5k can handle my chip (this message arrived after the modprobe) |
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| 16:45.45 | rimini | Or does it writes this every time you load the module whether or not you have a wifi card ? |
| 16:46.22 | cahoot | rimini: try iwlist scan |
| 16:47.52 | rimini | wlan0 Scan completed : :) |
| 16:47.59 | rimini | thanks it seems to work. |
| 16:48.05 | rimini | Now I have to learn how to make it use my wifi acess point |
| 16:48.11 | cahoot | pure luck ;) |
| 16:48.49 | cahoot | rimini: did any actuel ap's get listed? |
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| 16:49.15 | rimini | Yes, I just didn't want to flood |
| 16:49.18 | rimini | I'll try with kwifimanager now. |
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| 16:53.57 | valdyn | pleed: you can use mount options for that |
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| 16:57.06 | rimini | Hm, ok, I don't really get how to use kwifimanager, but I guess I can handle it with iwconfig (to pass essid and channel), ifconfig to pass an ip adress and then route to pass a route. Right ? |
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| 16:58.37 | cahoot | rimini: some speak highly of wicd |
| 16:59.12 | cahoot | rimini: personally I use wpa_supplicant |
| 16:59.59 | starbuck33 | does somebody know a howto to create samba-users without a system account |
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| 17:00.01 | kc8pxy | can someone help me get shorewall-perl working? i tried plain shorewall, and despite STARTUP_ENABLED=yes being set, it flops on it's face, and says i need to configure it. i copied my config to this new install, and it SHOULD be working. my only only guess is that things are slightly different in the debian package than my other distro. someone can help? |
| 17:00.53 | sepult | kc8pxy: shorewall-perl is a script package for shorewall |
| 17:01.02 | sepult | kc8pxy: you enable it in shorewall.conf |
| 17:01.20 | sylar | I have seen in a howto "dpkg-reconfigure o2cb" |
| 17:01.35 | kc8pxy | sepult: yeah. i did. and even when i set the compiler to perl, it says i haven't configured it. |
| 17:01.38 | sylar | but there is no o2cb package, is there?' |
| 17:01.52 | sepult | oh |
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| 17:03.12 | sepult | kc8pxy: it didn't tell me anything like that, i just installed shorewall-perl and set SHOREWALL_COMPILER=perl |
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| 17:04.19 | kc8pxy | sepult: I'm baffled also |
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| 17:05.28 | sepult | kc8pxy: did you copy all else from /usr/share/doc/shorewall-common/examples/one-interface/* to /etc/shorewall ?? |
| 17:05.46 | sepult | kc8pxy: policy interfaces etc ? |
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| 17:06.00 | sepult | kc8pxy: you need them |
| 17:06.07 | valdyn | kc8pxy: shorewall-perl is only a functionally identical reimplementation of shorewall, which is a bash script |
| 17:06.11 | kc8pxy | sepult: i coppied them all in. |
| 17:06.23 | sepult | hmmm, then i don't know |
| 17:06.26 | sepult | sorry |
| 17:06.44 | sepult | kc8pxy: and set /etc/default/shorwall to start ?? |
| 17:06.57 | kc8pxy | valdyn: I'm not a shorewall noob. i've just never configured it on debian. |
| 17:06.57 | sepult | kc8pxy: it has to be started |
| 17:07.07 | valdyn | kc8pxy: always a good idea to read the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc |
| 17:07.36 | kc8pxy | valdyn: i thought i did. it seemed to say i should when it flopped. |
| 17:07.48 | sepult | kc8pxy: give a wait_interfaces=eth0 or so option |
| 17:08.54 | kc8pxy | sepult: ok.. thanks.. i didn't realize i needed to modify files outside of the shorewall internal files. |
| 17:09.22 | valdyn | "To enable it just edit the file /etc/default/shorewall and set the "startup" variable to 1." |
| 17:09.29 | valdyn | 3rd text line in the readme |
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| 17:10.45 | kc8pxy | valdyn: ok, mebbe i passed tht over, but that's seems needledly redundant.. shorewall has it's own "STARTUP_ENABLED=yes" flag.. |
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| 17:11.30 | sepult | kc8pxy: one is for shorewall, the other for debian startup |
| 17:11.45 | stdisease | What's that little black demon in disguise doing on my boot screen? lol |
| 17:12.01 | sepult | kc8pxy: debian has to know to start or not, so shorewall too |
| 17:12.57 | kc8pxy | sepult: why doesn't it assume shorewall isn't stupid, and knows how to make itself work right. |
| 17:13.21 | jpinx | I'd like to run 2 servers behind my router. How do I differentiate incoming http queries on :80 for the 2 NAT'd machines? |
| 17:13.27 | sepult | kc8pxy: say debian didn't start it, would mean you could start it by hand, not at system boot |
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| 17:13.46 | sepult | kc8pxy: just a layer for system initialization or boot phase |
| 17:14.23 | kc8pxy | sepult: kk |
| 17:14.51 | kc8pxy | thinks he's remembering why he hasn't used debian since 2.2. |
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| 17:17.30 | netbar | Hello |
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| 17:17.52 | stdisease | Hi netbar |
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| 17:18.23 | remu | Hey folks, I've been using gnu/linux (ubuntu) for a bit over a year and a half now, and I was thinkin of installing Debian to try it. I was wondering is it safe to install the testing release, or should I stick with the stable release? |
| 17:18.49 | patrikf | remu: what does the name "testing" suggest? |
| 17:18.56 | remu | Also, is there a good guide for ubuntu users? (I googled it a bit, but most of the articles I found were guides for new ubuntu users) |
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| 17:19.16 | eptalon | heyas. |
| 17:19.35 | NoReGreT | what's the man pckg called for fork(), wait(), etc.. ? |
| 17:19.42 | abrotman | manpages-dev |
| 17:19.47 | eptalon | Is there a working amd64 2.6.29 kernel image yet. mine (sid) dies on messages like Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin for module tg3 |
| 17:19.49 | remu | patrikf: well, I understand that the stuff isn't a hundred percent stable, but at the same time, I don't know how old the programs in stable can get |
| 17:20.10 | netbar | Hi stdisease Have sound issue |
| 17:20.12 | abrotman | remu: you can look at packages.debian.org to see where package versions are |
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| 17:20.18 | patrikf | remu: around two years. try stable first |
| 17:20.26 | stdisease | eptalon, weird mine doesn't, that's a update-initramfs warning |
| 17:20.29 | abrotman | patrikf: they're not two years old yet |
| 17:20.29 | stdisease | it should be harmless |
| 17:20.30 | patrikf | remu: if you don't like it, upgrading is easy |
| 17:20.36 | tty | GUYS |
| 17:20.38 | tty | HEY |
| 17:20.40 | remu | patrikf: alright, I will try stable then, thanks |
| 17:20.43 | patrikf | abrotman: "how old the programs in stable *can get*" |
| 17:20.51 | stdisease | netbar, ok why don't you tell us about it maybe we can solve it together |
| 17:20.52 | eptalon | stdisease: User postinst hook script [update-grub] exited with value 136 |
| 17:20.58 | tty | what is the boot command i must add to make sshd installs on a hedleass |
| 17:21.00 | tty | box |
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| 17:21.09 | eptalon | is the actual error |
| 17:21.14 | alnr | grep -P doesnt seem to be supported on version of deb. is this fixed in the latest stable release? |
| 17:21.19 | abrotman | patrikf: they can get older than that .. it was three years between potato and sarge |
| 17:21.26 | alnr | s /on version/on my version/ |
| 17:21.31 | abrotman | !ssh install |
| 17:21.32 | dpkg | ssh install is, like, http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-miscellaneous, or [obsolete] http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html See also <debootstrap>. |
| 17:21.34 | patrikf | abrotman: "around". :D |
| 17:21.50 | stdisease | eptalon, and how is that a sound issue? |
| 17:21.52 | tty | abrotman: what the hack!! i already googled for htat |
| 17:22.00 | sauvin | spled, is there a reason you're spamming people joining the channel with porn? |
| 17:22.03 | patrikf | abrotman: can we stop slicing everything I've said now? |
| 17:22.04 | eptalon | stdisease: Sound issue? |
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| 17:22.10 | netbar | Just installed a fresh copy of Lenny, and sound don't work |
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| 17:22.33 | sauvin | abrotman, thank you. I mean it :) |
| 17:22.35 | sepult | netbar: you have alsa ? |
| 17:22.41 | stdisease | eptalon, oh nvm I confused you with netbar's post |
| 17:23.02 | netbar | am noob to pidgin too |
| 17:23.17 | abrotman | netbar: does sound work for root? |
| 17:23.19 | eptalon | stdisease: last I checked it was a kernel issue. but yes I have trouble playing certain sound things (sid/experimental |
| 17:23.21 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 17:23.21 | dpkg | 1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 8) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. <list alsa users> |
| 17:23.43 | stdisease | eptalon, well if it is then it is unrelated to those messages printed about missing firmware |
| 17:23.48 | tty | If you are installing from CD, you need to boot with medium priority or otherwise invoke the main installation menu and choose Load installer components from CD and from the list of additional components select network-console: Continue installation remotely using SSH. Successful load is indicated by a new menu entry called Continue installation remotely using SSH. |
| 17:23.53 | tty | i cannot do that |
| 17:23.59 | tty | since i cant navigate the menu at all |
| 17:24.00 | stdisease | eptalon, cauz' I seem them too and my install goes just fine |
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| 17:24.15 | abrotman | tty: do it on a machine with a monitor .. memorize the keystrokes |
| 17:24.18 | stdisease | eptalon, about the exit status though, let me try and check |
| 17:24.25 | netbar | I chose the right card in (code) alsaconf and the procedure runs but no sound |
| 17:24.27 | tty | abrotman: NOT again! |
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| 17:24.34 | abrotman | tty: then hook up a monitor .. |
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| 17:24.47 | abrotman | netbar: there are seven more steps |
| 17:25.01 | tty | abrotman: ill just go with the gentoo installl .. |
| 17:25.13 | abrotman | tty: your loss .. |
| 17:25.20 | tty | abrotman: no kidding |
| 17:25.26 | tty | loss in compiling time etc |
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| 17:26.03 | xoz | a/quit |
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| 17:26.12 | StyXman | hi 'vrybody. I'm trying to get linux-kbuild-2.6.28 and is not anymore in sid. I reember archive.debian.net used to have this kind of packages, but now is dedicated to old debian releases, and archive.debian.org doesn't have it. where can I get it? there isn't a service like archive.debian.net used to provide anymore? |
| 17:26.17 | temoto | Hello. What must be in /etc/hostname? I mean difference like temoto-mobi or temoto-mobi.lan? |
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| 17:26.18 | tty | abrotman: add 'dosshd nox passwd=blah' to the gentoo bootline and it is all setup |
| 17:26.32 | abrotman | tty: not my problem .. |
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| 17:26.38 | tty | lol i know |
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| 17:27.17 | StyXman | temoto: it's just the name of the computer. it might or might not be related to its dns name |
| 17:27.38 | kc8pxy | sepult: valdyn : thanks guys. i KNEW it had to be some debianisms that were holding me back. thanks guys |
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| 17:28.13 | temoto | StyXman: i'm confused how to make decision on relate it or not to DNS name? |
| 17:28.20 | sepult | kc8pxy: no problem |
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| 17:28.54 | stdisease | debianisms hehe |
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| 17:29.04 | StyXman | temoto: it's just a name. it doesn't have to be the sme as the dns name, I meant to say |
| 17:29.43 | netbar | dpkg: How do you add yourself to audio group |
| 17:29.43 | dpkg | netbar: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 17:29.47 | StyXman | temoto: e.g. www.grulic.org.ar is the dns name of a machine, but its hostname is piquillin |
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| 17:29.56 | temoto | StyXman: so i just put any kind of name ...omg |
| 17:30.00 | temoto | piquillin? |
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| 17:30.05 | StyXman | netbar: sudo adduser <user> audio |
| 17:30.32 | StyXman | temoto: it's a local kind of bush |
| 17:30.44 | temoto | StyXman: so it must be just any name even not unique? |
| 17:30.54 | temoto | And no dots in it? |
| 17:31.20 | StyXman | temoto: yeap. that name is local to that machine and it's not very important in many aspects |
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| 17:31.30 | bolt | iceweasel is coloring the google search field and buttons like the rest of my system, which is very black. it looks horrible. how can i stop it doing this? |
| 17:31.37 | StyXman | but it's the name you'll get in the greeter |
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| 17:33.20 | temoto | What do you know, it's not important... |
| 17:33.40 | temoto | i've been living in a big delusion |
| 17:33.45 | StyXman | temoto: but, in most cases, the name is used to make the dns name |
| 17:33.53 | temoto | AHA! |
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| 17:34.02 | StyXman | temoto: it's as important as you make it, so to speak |
| 17:34.38 | temoto | StyXman: whether it is used to make DNS name or not depends on what? |
| 17:34.39 | StyXman | temoto: but it's not automatic, you have to go configure dns that way |
| 17:34.49 | StyXman | temoto: or the dhcp/dns server |
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| 17:35.35 | StyXman | temoto: either you build the dns databases that way, or other more obscure way that includes dhcp and a dns server talking to each other |
| 17:35.36 | netbar | adduser <user> audio doe's this The user `guest' is already a member of `audio'. |
| 17:35.49 | StyXman | (or being the same server, as is the case with dnsmasq) |
| 17:36.29 | StyXman | netbar: it's pretty clear what's happening there |
| 17:36.43 | temoto | StyXman: i'm using dnsmasq exactly! |
| 17:36.54 | temoto | StyXman: thank you very much. Very helpful. |
| 17:36.56 | StyXman | temoto: heeh, nice |
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| 17:37.38 | StyXman | you can configure your dhcp client to tell the dhcp server (dnsmasq) its hostname |
| 17:38.05 | StyXman | dnsmasq will add the local domainname and create <hostname>.<localdomain> dns entry |
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| 17:38.11 | zcx | hi |
| 17:38.19 | StyXman | which will resolve to the ip the dhcp server gave you |
| 17:38.54 | zcx | i need an access.log file generated by apache on a big website. Could someone give me that ? |
| 17:38.59 | netbar | Din't log out & login Cya THNX |
| 17:39.12 | StyXman | temoto: you can even tell the dhclient to ask for a dns anme different from the hostname, but that is just complicating things |
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| 17:40.37 | rootmos | is there a way to see what kind of ram i?ve got in a linuxbox? |
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| 17:41.03 | StyXman | rootmos: I think lshw gives that kind of info |
| 17:41.19 | jayeola | free -m |
| 17:41.27 | jayeola | ^^ that's for your ram |
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| 17:41.50 | rootmos | not how much, what kind |
| 17:41.53 | StyXman | jayeola: that's how much's left |
| 17:42.01 | StyXman | he asked for the kind of ram |
| 17:42.15 | StyXman | DDR2 800MHz or things like that |
| 17:42.17 | jayeola | doh! s root: dmidecode |
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| 17:43.45 | rootmos | StyXman: lshw was perfect, thanks |
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| 17:44.15 | MindVirus | Hi. How do I find what package a file belongs to? |
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| 17:44.49 | ctendell | hey folks can someone point me to where I can find a list of the most current and complete debian apt repos? |
| 17:45.09 | mmind | MindVirus, apt-file search /path/foo |
| 17:45.18 | MindVirus | mmind, thanks. |
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| 17:46.30 | hoxu | MindVirus, or just "dpkg -S" |
| 17:46.39 | abrotman | ctendell: debian.org/mirrors/list |
| 17:47.10 | ctendell | ty |
| 17:47.22 | MindVirus | hoxu, what's the argument for dpkg -S? |
| 17:47.33 | hoxu | MindVirus, the file |
| 17:47.38 | MindVirus | OK. :) |
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| 17:48.47 | hannah_irina | how i can send a email in my local area? ( i running debian i have installed postfix, i need to se if the vacation works! |
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| 17:48.57 | hannah_irina | need to send a user email ! |
| 17:49.13 | ctendell | abrotman: how do i add them to my sources.list ? |
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| 17:49.26 | abrotman | with an editor |
| 17:49.26 | ctendell | I know how to do jut not how to structure them |
| 17:49.37 | abrotman | ctendell: man 5 sources.list |
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| 17:49.44 | nick4 | I am reading the howto compile Chromium on Squeeze but I can't figure out what "hammer" is. Any ideas? |
| 17:50.09 | netbar | Hello |
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| 17:51.14 | ctendell | I know how to put them there my question is how do I take the ftp.<whatever mirror> and make it deb http://<mirror> main |
| 17:51.27 | ctendell | and so on |
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| 17:51.52 | yang | I am wondering why doesn't my external USB drive get recognised - http://pastebin.ca/1396617 |
| 17:52.44 | sepult | yang: installed usbmount ? |
| 17:52.47 | netbar | no sound issue in fresh installation of lenny |
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| 17:53.11 | jetscreamer | me, i'm still wondering why the linux-images bork the f out |
| 17:53.16 | sepult | yang: maybe pmount and usbutils also pamusbutils ? |
| 17:53.31 | jetscreamer | rather, why the maintainer seems to be borking out |
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| 17:54.21 | bolt | iceweasel is coloring the google search field and buttons like the rest of my system, which is very black. it looks horrible. how can i stop it doing this? |
| 17:54.41 | bolt | i mean the search field on www.google.com not the one in the toolbar |
| 17:54.48 | yang | sepult: thanks for the hints |
| 17:54.48 | jetscreamer | 'maybe' somewhere in about:config bolt no idea really though |
| 17:55.32 | themill | bolt: user style sheet might be the answer. |
| 17:55.55 | yang | pamusbutils doesn't seem to be in testing |
| 17:55.55 | bolt | themill: it's a fresh install, though. don't think i have any of those |
| 17:56.28 | themill | bolt: no, you'd have to create one to override your gtk theme with what you want. (or you could fix your gtk theme...) |
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| 17:57.14 | yang | sepult: http://pastebin.ca/1396621 this is the error after installing usbmount |
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| 17:58.54 | yang | sepult: blacklist pcwd_usb i have this if it's related ? |
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| 17:59.03 | sepult | yang: what filesystem is on it ? |
| 17:59.12 | yang | sepult: I think its LVM |
| 17:59.28 | yang | sepult: partition lvm , fs ext3 |
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| 17:59.55 | jetscreamer | browser.display.use_system_colors ? |
| 17:59.59 | sepult | yang: i don't know if usbmount is lvm aware |
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| 18:00.07 | sepult | yang: seems to disconnect it |
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| 18:00.44 | sepult | yang: is something else accessing it like hal at the same time ? |
| 18:01.19 | ryanCH | what things can i clear on linux that will hide what i do on linux,for instance in windows you can clear the temp folder delete recent docs etc... |
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| 18:01.32 | yang | sepult: very interesting...I used (non-original) USB cable, when I placed the original cable it got recognised... |
| 18:01.46 | yang | sepult: obviously different voltage |
| 18:01.53 | sepult | yang: heh |
| 18:01.57 | sepult | yang: weird |
| 18:02.07 | yang | the cable looks the same |
| 18:02.32 | jetscreamer | ryanCH: ~/.bash_history |
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| 18:02.44 | SDr | hi |
| 18:02.49 | sepult | yang: i have another problem with my usb, it mount normal, as soon as virtualbox tries to access it the device nodes disappear |
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| 18:03.11 | SDr | while "pear install enchant": /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.la: No such file or directory |
| 18:03.12 | SDr | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.la' is not a valid libtool archive |
| 18:03.12 | SDr | make: *** [enchant.la] Error 1 |
| 18:03.23 | SDr | using debian |
| 18:03.25 | ryanCH | sepult: irq problem? |
| 18:03.40 | sepult | ryanCH: ?? maybe i don't know |
| 18:03.46 | SDr | I've apt-getted libglib 1.0, 2.0, with no avail |
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| 18:03.58 | sepult | ryanCH: its a fresh install of windows |
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| 18:04.23 | sepult | ryanCH: i think something like ipc error |
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| 18:04.38 | ryanCH | go into device manager->under irq ... and see if there is a conflict |
| 18:04.39 | sepult | ryanCH: concurrent access or so maybe |
| 18:04.44 | SDr | ldconfig -p | grep libgmodule says libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 ,and it's there too |
| 18:04.49 | simonrvn | is there still a way to compile a perl script to c, with 5.10? |
| 18:04.49 | SDr | any ideas how to fix this? |
| 18:05.02 | sepult | ryanCH: where is device manager ? |
| 18:05.09 | sepult | oh you mean in virtualbox |
| 18:05.17 | sepult | ok |
| 18:05.22 | ryanCH | yeah |
| 18:05.24 | sepult | i'll do that next time i boot it |
| 18:05.43 | valdyn | SDr: .la files are part of the -dev package |
| 18:05.52 | WillieJ | Is there any firewall on debian? |
| 18:05.56 | WillieJ | Or something that could block my connections |
| 18:06.00 | SDr | valdyn, apt-get libglib-dev, then? |
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| 18:06.04 | yang | sepult: but It doesnt seem to be able to create a LVM device , when sticking in? |
| 18:06.41 | sepult | yang: yours ? |
| 18:06.49 | yang | yes |
| 18:06.58 | sepult | yang: mine has no lvm on it |
| 18:07.03 | valdyn | !tell SDr -about search |
| 18:07.06 | sepult | yang: just a fat32 filesystem |
| 18:07.17 | SDr | valdyn, thank you, that fixed it! |
| 18:07.19 | WillieJ | Or something that could block my connections |
| 18:07.21 | WillieJ | Is there any firewall on debian? |
| 18:07.25 | sepult | yang: it's a usb stick rather than a hd |
| 18:07.47 | yang | ok |
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| 18:08.05 | mmind | !tell WillieJ about shorewall |
| 18:08.24 | WillieJ | mmind |
| 18:08.28 | WillieJ | It's standard on debian? |
| 18:08.37 | WillieJ | Since something is blocking my outgoing connections I think.. |
| 18:08.56 | sepult | yang: last time i got it working, but the device indicator icon would blink in say 3-5 second intervals |
| 18:08.57 | mmind | no, it is not installed by default |
| 18:09.10 | WillieJ | anything which could block my outgoing connection>? |
| 18:09.18 | yang | sepult: well do you know how to use lvm |
| 18:09.23 | abrotman | WillieJ: not installed normally |
| 18:09.28 | valdyn | WillieJ: firewalls are off by default |
| 18:09.32 | sepult | yang: yes i used it once |
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| 18:09.44 | yang | sepult: it can scan LVM partitions |
| 18:09.49 | WillieJ | Since I'm getting 'Connection refused' and cannot connect to database (mysql), and it worked fine on windows. |
| 18:09.52 | yang | sepult: but doesn't seem to create them |
| 18:09.52 | WillieJ | What could be the problem? |
| 18:10.03 | abrotman | WillieJ: you didn't configure mysql correctly |
| 18:10.11 | valdyn | WillieJ: that the host isnt accepting the connection |
| 18:10.18 | yang | df |
| 18:10.19 | WillieJ | valdyn, it's open for every ip i think |
| 18:10.22 | sepult | yang: pv create and lv create are the commands for that |
| 18:10.30 | valdyn | WillieJ: think is not know |
| 18:10.39 | sepult | yang: the usbmount itself does not do create anything |
| 18:10.43 | WillieJ | mmh k |
| 18:10.47 | yang | sepult: its all on the drive, but i think it must be plugged in at boot time, or it won't be able to create devices later |
| 18:10.49 | WillieJ | So I should look at the host of database? |
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| 18:10.58 | sepult | yang: pv=physical volume, lv=logical volume |
| 18:10.58 | nottoobad | hi |
| 18:11.00 | valdyn | !8-ball WillieJ |
| 18:11.05 | valdyn | !test |
| 18:11.05 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 18:11.12 | valdyn | !8ball WillieJ |
| 18:11.12 | dpkg | Absolutely. |
| 18:11.14 | abrotman | WillieJ: yes |
| 18:11.18 | valdyn | WillieJ: ^^ |
| 18:11.23 | WillieJ | k |
| 18:11.28 | sepult | yang: yes that's what i meant by it's maybe not lvm aware |
| 18:11.31 | WillieJ | Then I'll make a picture that it's accepting every conn |
| 18:11.35 | WillieJ | brb. |
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| 18:12.08 | sepult | yang: or you have to make it clear by fstab or so, i don't know how, have a look in man 8 mount |
| 18:12.15 | nottoobad | please how to fix the bug : keyboard unusable after installing xkb-data under debian squeeze ? |
| 18:12.30 | nottoobad | xkb-data 1.5.2 actually |
| 18:12.37 | sepult | yang: lookout for mount options and read the lvm documentation too |
| 18:12.38 | abrotman | nottoobad: did you check the BTS? |
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| 18:12.52 | nottoobad | no, whats that |
| 18:12.54 | sepult | yang: maybe there is a way |
| 18:13.25 | WillieJ | mmh |
| 18:13.31 | WillieJ | I maybe got it now.. it ain't displaying a password I think |
| 18:13.32 | WillieJ | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'rsserver'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
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| 18:13.42 | WillieJ | mysql -hHOST -uNAME -pPASS right? |
| 18:14.13 | simonrvn | leave off the PASS |
| 18:14.18 | WillieJ | why? |
| 18:14.21 | nottoobad | abrotman: BugTrackSystem doesn't give anything relevant, man |
| 18:14.26 | simonrvn | use -p, it'll prompt you |
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| 18:14.28 | Dassu | YEs, my name is WillieJ if you got a warrent just read it to me - Johhny Cash |
| 18:14.39 | Dassu | *johnny cash |
| 18:14.44 | yang | sepult: vgchange -a y (was needed) now it reads |
| 18:15.13 | sepult | yang: ok |
| 18:15.18 | simonrvn | WillieJ: because someone can sniff it out from ps otherwise. |
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| 18:15.53 | WillieJ | ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on 'f0rums.net' (111) |
| 18:15.53 | WillieJ | :x |
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| 18:16.13 | WillieJ | sudo mysqladmin -u name -h host password pass |
| 18:16.16 | WillieJ | If i'm doing that |
| 18:16.17 | WillieJ | And then mysql |
| 18:16.27 | WillieJ | IT says |
| 18:16.28 | simonrvn | is it running? is it blocked via iptables/ipfilter/other? |
| 18:16.28 | WillieJ | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'rsserver'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| 18:16.43 | WillieJ | I didn't change anything about iptables and such |
| 18:16.49 | WillieJ | So could something be blocking it? |
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| 18:16.53 | simonrvn | you left off the -p entirely... i didn't say that |
| 18:17.40 | sepult | -p and then on the newline it offers you to input your passwd put your passwd |
| 18:17.42 | WillieJ | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'f0rums.net' failed |
| 18:17.42 | WillieJ | error: 'Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111' |
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| 18:18.23 | WillieJ | So something is blocking it? |
| 18:18.58 | jmut | hi. I am trying to remove tomcat5.5 from debian 5.0 but it will wipe out tons of packages..like bzip2 make and others. Kinda not cool :) Any pointers. Perhaps how I permanantly disable it so tomcat5.5 doesn't start on reboot |
| 18:19.05 | WillieJ | http://i41.tinypic.com/ml42zm.jpg |
| 18:19.07 | simonrvn | it's getting dropped after the initial connection. |
| 18:19.09 | WillieJ | There everything allowed |
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| 18:19.18 | nottoobad | bloody hell |
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| 18:19.32 | simonrvn | jmut: you're doing something wrong then. |
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| 18:19.49 | temoto_ | jmut: what's your exact apt-get line? |
| 18:20.31 | jmut | http://pastebin.com/d4804990a |
| 18:20.39 | jmut | temoto_: I read that should use aptitude |
| 18:20.47 | jmut | aptitude remove --purge tomcat5.5 tomcat5.5-admin |
| 18:20.54 | jmut | without --purge it's pretty much the same |
| 18:21.39 | temoto_ | jmut: really same w/o purge? |
| 18:21.43 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps question is it easy/wise to do a upgrade from etch to lenny? |
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| 18:22.09 | simonrvn | dpkg tell bbelt16ag -about etch->lenny |
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| 18:22.18 | jmut | temoto_: yep |
| 18:22.38 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 18:22.49 | temoto_ | bbelt16ag: yes. We upgraded 2 servers on production in less than a day. The only problem was postgres 8.1 to 8.3 databases are not compatible so one must use dump/load. |
| 18:23.41 | temoto_ | jmut: well what about apt-get remove tomcat5.5{,-admin} ? |
| 18:23.47 | s0lid | is it possible to encrypt the partition without passphrase? |
| 18:24.35 | jmut | temoto_: seems better. says will remove just those two and all the big list just says it's no longer needed but will not remove |
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| 18:25.22 | jmut | temoto_: I will go with apt-get I guess. thanks |
| 18:25.23 | temoto_ | jmut: you see then it means no other package references any of big list. And no packages in big list are "manually installed" via apt-get/aptitude install. |
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| 18:25.42 | temoto_ | jmut: it's like garbage collection in programming languages. |
| 18:25.45 | simonrvn | jmut: that's why it "wants" to remove those, it "thinks" you're not using them anymore. |
| 18:25.49 | jmut | temoto_: yeah..as if I didn't really need bzip2. I think I get the picture now |
| 18:25.56 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 18:25.59 | bbelt16ag | cool |
| 18:26.01 | jmut | yep |
| 18:26.05 | bbelt16ag | no db here |
| 18:26.18 | bbelt16ag | just virtualbox and lvm2 and samba/cifs/ |
| 18:26.29 | jmut | I will go with whole wipe...what the hek :) server not used yet anyhow |
| 18:26.45 | temoto_ | jmut: you want to install some kind of virtual package like ubuntu-minimal. I don't know what's for debian. That virtual package only does reference other packages. |
| 18:27.08 | jmut | temoto_: I think this is not for me |
| 18:27.16 | jmut | temoto_: or is it ? |
| 18:27.48 | simonrvn | temoto_: no such thing |
| 18:27.58 | temoto_ | even better :) |
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| 18:28.58 | temoto_ | jmut: if apt feels you don't need package, you have pretty much reason to believe it. Just do aptitude install bzip2 and all you feel you need. |
| 18:29.16 | jmut | temoto_: yep. I got the idea. thanks a lot |
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| 18:29.51 | temoto_ | bbelt16ag: btw i'd recommend alias virtualbox deb source in apt/sources.list and install latest 2.2 - it is nice and shiny. |
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| 18:30.05 | kc8pxy | need some more help with debianisms. i have eth1 defined in /etc/network/interfaces, but it's not bringing it up on boot.. what am i mising? |
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| 18:30.54 | godlessfather | kc8pxy: auto eth1 |
| 18:31.21 | temoto_ | kc8pxy: allow-hotplug eth1 helped me. |
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| 18:32.10 | jmut | temoto_: hm. any clue why /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 and /etc/tomcat5.5 is still there I did the aptitude remove --purge way? |
| 18:32.35 | jetscreamer | notes that as usual, he gets the bugs nobody else gets, and allow-hotplug borks out |
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| 18:33.25 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 18:33.28 | temoto_ | jmut: well init.d must be removed, maybe you modified it? /etc/tomcat i don't know if it must be removed. Anyway blame uninstall author :) |
| 18:33.33 | jetscreamer | it's a conspiracy against ppl who can't afford hw |
| 18:33.42 | jetscreamer | up the proletariat |
| 18:33.53 | jetscreamer | or however you spell it |
| 18:34.25 | jmut | temoto_: lol :) it's save to just rm /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 ? |
| 18:34.50 | temoto_ | jmut: sure. And it's even safe not to rm. |
| 18:35.15 | temoto_ | jmut: if nobody uses that dir, it doesn't really matter whether it is stored on disk or not. |
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| 18:35.50 | temoto_ | dir/or/file |
| 18:35.52 | jetscreamer | !purge |
| 18:35.52 | dpkg | from memory, purge is to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use aptitude purge [package] or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge '~c', or see <confmiss> about restoring individual config files |
| 18:36.22 | jmut | temoto_: yeah I agree. but just wondering if I restart won't it get all funky with init.d/tomcat5.5 I know nothing can happen as the package is uninstalled..but just trying to learn the propery way of hanlding such cases. |
| 18:36.35 | jetscreamer | and if you have custom files in a dir, they won't be removed automatically |
| 18:36.43 | jetscreamer | s/custom/customized/ |
| 18:36.50 | jmut | temoto_: anyhow. thanks for help. I will leave like this for now. should be fine |
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| 18:37.45 | temoto_ | jmut: as with packages, init.d contains files that are referenced. By /etc/rc.?d/S??xxx and /etc/rc.?d/K??xxx links |
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| 18:38.44 | bbelt16ag | wth aptitude is download 4 packages at once.... |
| 18:38.48 | bbelt16ag | never seen this before... |
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| 18:39.11 | temoto_ | jmut: /etc/rc.Xd/SNNfoo symlink means "run '/etc/init.d/foo start' on runlevel X with priority NN (lower priority links run first)" |
| 18:39.12 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: different mirrors |
| 18:39.24 | temoto_ | jmut: /etc/rc.Xd/KNNfoo symlink means "run '/etc/init.d/foo stop' on runlevel X with priority NN (lower priority links run first)" |
| 18:39.40 | bbelt16ag | yeah |
| 18:39.49 | bbelt16ag | awesme |
| 18:40.18 | jmut | temoto_: hm. one of those days I will read whole debian man :D |
| 18:40.21 | temoto_ | jmut: so if you're afraid of boot warnings, just check symlinks. Or use sysv-rc-conf to get a UI for that. |
| 18:41.02 | temoto_ | There is even updaterc utility for managing those symlinks. |
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| 18:41.19 | simonrvn | update-rc.d |
| 18:41.35 | temoto_ | jmut: ^ |
| 18:42.10 | temoto_ | I don't really know debian well. |
| 18:43.16 | jmut | well if you don't I must totally suck at it then :) something new every day. it's fun |
| 18:43.33 | temoto_ | jmut: you might want to try daemontools or upstart as alternative to /etc/rc.?d links. Those feature keeping services running no matter what. |
| 18:44.03 | jetscreamer | oh. i ran make-kpkg --initrd ... it didn't generate an initrd. |
| 18:44.12 | kc8pxy | ok, now it's attempting to bring up eth1, but it says it can't. that makes no sense. does it AHVE to have a gateway? it IS the gateway for other machines, (or rather, it will be.) |
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| 18:44.26 | _boo_ | jetscreamer, why do you need initrd? |
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| 18:44.44 | jetscreamer | _boo_: i don't, but it didn't, why not |
| 18:45.02 | _boo_ | just put noinitrd there :)) |
| 18:45.13 | simonrvn | kc8pxy: to route packets yes. ;) |
| 18:45.23 | netkevin | Hey everyone. Is there a standard way to run a command using a specific user:group, and also a specified set of supplementary groups? |
| 18:45.44 | temoto_ | netkevin: start-stop-daemon |
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| 18:46.14 | netkevin | temoto_: Do you happen to know if the --group option can be given multiple times? |
| 18:46.21 | jetscreamer | this time, i have everything compiled in, even though i'm still generating an initrd |
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| 18:46.35 | jetscreamer | last time i just used lamedudes stock config |
| 18:46.46 | jetscreamer | 's |
| 18:47.04 | temoto_ | netkevin: i believe it doesn't take multiple --group. But i may be wrong. |
| 18:47.09 | ma3x | how do i enable the other computer in the lan accessing the internet? i've already installed dnsmasq on the host |
| 18:47.27 | jetscreamer | shame my box is so dang slow |
| 18:47.40 | jetscreamer | compiling takes like 1hr |
| 18:47.51 | temoto_ | netkevin: i'd rather modify user with usermod -aG all,other,suppl,groups user and then just su user -c command. |
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| 18:48.12 | jetscreamer | considers repo'ing a computer |
| 18:48.40 | eth01 | jetscreamer |
| 18:48.44 | jetscreamer | hey bud |
| 18:48.55 | jetscreamer | howzitgoing |
| 18:49.01 | eth01 | brill. |
| 18:49.02 | rafuch0 | i want debian posters !!! |
| 18:49.05 | eth01 | u? |
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| 18:49.32 | netkevin | temoto_: That's certainly on option. I thought it might be a bit more secure and more self-documenting to set the groups at the point where the program is executed. |
| 18:49.38 | jetscreamer | pretty good cept latest stock kernels don't boot my box |
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| 18:49.47 | eth01 | aw. |
| 18:50.00 | rafuch0 | anybody knows a site wgere i can find some |
| 18:50.17 | jpinx | I've installed and started openssh-server but it appears to not have created /etc/ssh/shd_config How to fix it? |
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| 18:50.38 | rafuch0 | i hsve search but no luck :( |
| 18:50.48 | jetscreamer | i have 2 computers in this house that i've given as gifts... each one is at least twice as good as this one... i 'should' repo one :) |
| 18:51.05 | eth01 | you are too kind. |
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| 18:51.33 | jetscreamer | well, they're low end, for what they are, and i wanted a 'good' one, so ... |
| 18:51.53 | eth01 | fair enuf |
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| 18:52.19 | eth01 | work tommorow great. |
| 18:52.19 | jpinx | rafuch0: http://www.zazzle.com/debian+gifts |
| 18:52.25 | eth01 | not it matters. |
| 18:52.27 | eth01 | that * |
| 18:52.27 | jetscreamer | jpinx: confmiss ? |
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| 18:53.03 | jetscreamer | yeah me too.. least it stopped raining (flooding) |
| 18:53.05 | jpinx | anyone able to point out what I'm doing wrong with ssh? |
| 18:53.06 | eth01 | utter tack |
| 18:53.40 | netkevin | jpinx: Assuming you spelled it right? |
| 18:53.56 | jpinx | jetscreamer: what's confmiss ? |
| 18:53.57 | netkevin | sshd_config, not shd_config |
| 18:54.14 | jpinx | netkevin: yes - sshd_config |
| 18:54.22 | jetscreamer | !confmiss |
| 18:54.22 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 18:54.45 | netkevin | jpinx: Can you check that the package is configured? dpkg -l openssh-server |
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| 18:55.36 | netkevin | jpinx: My best guess is to configure or reconfigure the package. |
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| 18:56.20 | jpinx | netkevin: Hmm - Half-inst and failed-cfg |
| 18:56.21 | [Dynami] | I'm creating a lightweight desktop with Debian, and am wondering how i can make fluxbox "pretty" and tutorials around ? |
| 18:56.29 | jpinx | tries confmiss |
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| 18:56.55 | jetscreamer | if it's half installed, you'll need to dpkg -a --configure i think |
| 18:57.19 | netkevin | jpinx: Yeah, that must be the problem, though I don't know specifically what to check for in terms of figuring out what went wrong. |
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| 18:57.37 | kc8pxy | simonrvn: even if I'm configuring it as the gateway, using static, gateway needs to be it's own ip addy? |
| 18:57.43 | WillieJ | What was the command to check all processes? |
| 18:57.48 | WillieJ | With CPU usage and such |
| 18:57.52 | OpenTokix | WillieJ: top |
| 18:57.54 | jpinx | netkevin: ok - I'll come back if it doesn't configure |
| 18:57.56 | WillieJ | thx |
| 18:58.03 | simonrvn | kc8pxy: the one you're connecting to, yes. |
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| 18:58.33 | WillieJ | why kill PID doesn't work? |
| 18:58.42 | pzn | which is the simplest filesystem type for mounting a small directory read-only between two virtual debians that run on the same phisical machine? nfs? smb? any other? |
| 18:58.42 | kc8pxy | simonrvn: this is a friewall box. eth1 is the gateway ip that all the other boxen on the lan are pointing to as gateway. |
| 18:58.45 | simonrvn | kc8pxy: that's what 'gateway' is, the router you're accepting/getting packets from/to. |
| 18:58.52 | WillieJ | why kill PID doesn't work? |
| 18:58.56 | netkevin | WillieJ: You need to be the process owner or root |
| 18:59.28 | rudi_s | WillieJ: If the process is really stuck you might need kill -9 |
| 18:59.41 | netkevin | WillieJ: There are other possibilities. Some processes can get stuck in states that can't be killed. |
| 18:59.46 | simonrvn | try -2 or -1 first |
| 18:59.52 | WillieJ | nvm |
| 18:59.55 | WillieJ | It used like 300 MB |
| 18:59.58 | WillieJ | It was a java running process |
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| 19:00.03 | WillieJ | Sometimes Im having problem |
| 19:00.08 | WillieJ | I'm runnign a java program |
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| 19:00.13 | WillieJ | Then if I do crtl+c nothing happens |
| 19:01.05 | netkevin | WillieJ: That could be due to the program's handling of SIGINT |
| 19:01.11 | rudi_s | netkevin: Just curious. When does this happen? |
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| 19:01.22 | netbar | dpkg: can you help me again with sound |
| 19:01.22 | dpkg | netbar: I give up, what is it? |
| 19:01.25 | arghhhhh | Hola guys, what do you think? Samsung NC10 or HP Mini 1000 ? |
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| 19:01.49 | arghhhhh | both seem to run Linux quite nicely |
| 19:01.55 | netkevin | rudi_s: I might be making it up. On FreeBSD I recall processes sometimes being in an "uninterruptible sleep" state. |
| 19:02.02 | netbar | i lost you at step 3 when i loged out |
| 19:02.18 | rudi_s | netkevin: Thanks, good to know. |
| 19:02.19 | jetscreamer | netbar: /msg the bot |
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| 19:02.32 | jetscreamer | !what are you |
| 19:02.32 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more info see <infobot>. |
| 19:02.33 | arghhhhh | s/ /msg dpkg |
| 19:02.42 | netkevin | rudi_s: I seem to recall it had something to do with drivers that could not or should not be interrupted |
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| 19:02.55 | arghhhhh | dpkg you are a perlbot |
| 19:02.56 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
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| 19:03.08 | netkevin | rudi_s: The state could be identified by the ps state flags. |
| 19:03.09 | manu_hac1 | dpkg: you are jerk |
| 19:03.10 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 19:03.17 | netbar | no sound issue in fresh installation of lenny |
| 19:03.21 | rudi_s | netkevin: Thanks. I had that myself one time, couldn't kill a process and had to reboot. |
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| 19:03.44 | netbar | First time on irc too |
| 19:03.50 | netkevin | rudi_s: Just think, on Windows you'd get that chance at least once per day. |
| 19:04.13 | jetscreamer | !crabpastesmite manu_hac1 |
| 19:04.14 | dpkg | pushes crabpaste up manu_hac1's nostrils |
| 19:04.15 | rudi_s | netkevin: Hehe, true. |
| 19:04.18 | jpinx | netkevin: jetscreamer I did the --force-confmiss reinstall for ssh and started it, but there's still no connections allowed and no new sshd_config file - what to do? |
| 19:04.28 | netkevin | It's fun to make fun of Windows, even if it's not really true :) |
| 19:04.46 | rudi_s | netkevin: True ^^ |
| 19:04.54 | simonrvn | jpinx: extract it from the .deb |
| 19:04.59 | karim | hi |
| 19:05.13 | jpinx | simonrvn: sorry - what do you mean? |
| 19:05.46 | simonrvn | ar x foo.deb ; tar zxf data.tar.gz |
| 19:05.47 | netkevin | jpinx: I wouldn't suggest doing what simonrvn is suggesting. I'd try to complete a standard configuration first. |
| 19:06.13 | jpinx | is sure it's something simple he's missed |
| 19:06.29 | netkevin | jpinx: did you try dpkg -a? |
| 19:06.32 | jpinx | but I've never installed and configured ssh before |
| 19:06.39 | kc8pxy | gar.. i wish debian wasn't the distro that made the most sense for this firewall. this stupid gateway nic is driving me nuts. |
| 19:06.48 | simonrvn | you sure you did --conf-miss? aptitude/apt-get don't do it by default, obviously. |
| 19:07.04 | simonrvn | er --force-confmiss |
| 19:07.04 | netkevin | jpinx: I meant dpkg --configure -a |
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| 19:07.22 | jpinx | I did -- sudo aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall ssh |
| 19:07.23 | ezquimo | away ffffffoooooooogggggoooooooo - science script. |
| 19:07.26 | nergoza | hi |
| 19:07.31 | jetscreamer | i spammed the factoid, he said he did it after... for confmiss... the --configure -a is needed i believe also |
| 19:07.32 | kc8pxy | shorewall won't work right because eth1 won't come up, and eth1 won't come up because it says I'm not telling it enough. |
| 19:07.41 | nergoza | each time i ran 'apt-get install unrar' im getting this error |
| 19:07.52 | nergoza | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 19:07.52 | nergoza | is only available from another source |
| 19:07.54 | jetscreamer | something about half installed |
| 19:07.55 | netkevin | jpinx: More likely it's a bug, I think. Usually this is very automatic. |
| 19:07.58 | simonrvn | don't paste it here |
| 19:08.06 | jetscreamer | nergoza: non-free or add dmm better |
| 19:08.08 | jetscreamer | !dmm |
| 19:08.08 | dpkg | methinks dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 19:08.19 | kc8pxy | the examples in man interfaces only seem to tell half the story, and nothing ya'll have told me seems to fix the problem totally. |
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| 19:09.08 | netkevin | jpinx: So I could try dpkg --configure -a (configure all unconfigured packages), and watch for any errors that might explain the problem. |
| 19:09.08 | jetscreamer | kc8pxy: i don't know what the deal is, but you could try auto ethX instead of allow-hotplug ... that's my problem usually |
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| 19:09.58 | jpinx | netkevin: that gives me no output at all |
| 19:10.08 | jpinx | so it appears that everythig is configured |
| 19:10.26 | theuser1 | i have a 24/7 dsl and kubuntu as an os. i dont know how to do something. i mean i want o make some use of it... may be a webserver... or what else.can any one comment? |
| 19:10.27 | netkevin | jpinx: Oh. Is it listed as configured in dpkg -l? |
| 19:10.37 | jetscreamer | jpinx: you could always try the windows method .. --purge it then re install it |
| 19:10.39 | kc8pxy | jetscreamer: i did that. eth1 is in auto now. and it says i haven't told it all the variables. I'm trying to set eth1 to a static ip so it can be the gateway for the lan, so dnsmasq can be the dhcp/dns server, and it's all hung up on eth1. |
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| 19:10.52 | jetscreamer | ah.. beyond me then |
| 19:10.54 | [Dynami] | would i use xdm for fluxbox ? |
| 19:10.59 | jetscreamer | you can |
| 19:11.07 | [Dynami] | which should i use |
| 19:11.09 | jetscreamer | you can use gdm kdm xdm ldm ?dm |
| 19:11.13 | jetscreamer | up to you |
| 19:11.14 | kc8pxy | has not had this much trouble setting up ethX in the rememberable past. |
| 19:11.16 | jetscreamer | me i use gdm |
| 19:11.21 | [Dynami] | sweet |
| 19:11.23 | [Dynami] | alright |
| 19:11.24 | unop | or not use a dm at all |
| 19:11.25 | netkevin | jpinx: like jetscreamer said, you might try a full purge and reinstall. But you might want to try dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server first. |
| 19:11.52 | jpinx | jetscreamer: netkevin dpkg -l lists the several ssh incarnations correctly |
| 19:12.04 | netkevin | jpinx: In any case, I think what you've got is a failed configuration step |
| 19:12.12 | nergoza | jetscreamer it's not on dmm also |
| 19:12.25 | [Dynami] | jetscreamer: apt-get install gdm ? |
| 19:12.32 | jpinx | netkevin: I did try purging and re-installing a couple of times before I came on here |
| 19:12.49 | jetscreamer | [Dynami]: yeah.. there is also gdm-themes-something |
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| 19:13.02 | jetscreamer | !find unrar |
| 19:13.09 | netkevin | jpinx: Well damn. Did you ever get a meaningful error message for the failed configurationL |
| 19:13.13 | netkevin | ? |
| 19:13.23 | nergoza | !tell unrar |
| 19:13.29 | nergoza | !unrar |
| 19:13.29 | dpkg | somebody said unrar was a <non-free> package and utility to extract <RAR> 3.0 archives. For earlier archive versions, ask me about <unrar-free>. |
| 19:13.32 | jpinx | netkevin: no - that's what's wierd - no errors |
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| 19:13.38 | [Dynami] | jetscreamer alright thanks |
| 19:13.46 | jetscreamer | unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) |
| 19:14.03 | nergoza | unrar-free is not working |
| 19:14.15 | nergoza | it's telling all All ok but it didnt extracted anything |
| 19:14.25 | jpinx | runs dpkg-reconfigure again |
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| 19:14.39 | netkevin | jpinx: Well, depending on how you installed it's possible the errors might not be printed. Huh. There's a chance the postinst (or whatever) is failing in a stupid way. |
| 19:14.47 | nergoza | jetscreamer how do i install the non-free version ? |
| 19:15.01 | jpinx | ok - it's reconfigured and restarted, but still refuses connections:( |
| 19:15.58 | jpinx | netkevin: what should the configure file look like? |
| 19:16.03 | netkevin | jpinx: Just to be clean, the connection is refused and immediately terminates. It's not authentication that is failing, right? |
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| 19:16.14 | netkevin | to be clear, not clean. |
| 19:16.15 | jetscreamer | !non-free |
| 19:16.15 | dpkg | hmm... non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 19:16.33 | jetscreamer | just add the words 'contrib non-free' after 'main' |
| 19:16.39 | jetscreamer | in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:16.43 | jpinx | netkevin: "connection refused" |
| 19:16.47 | nergoza | got it |
| 19:17.40 | jetscreamer | nergoza: don't forget to aptitude update afterwards |
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| 19:18.56 | netkevin | jpinx: The config file is a long file with lots of comments and examples. If you still don't have it, I wouldn't necessarily think that adding it will fix your problem (though it's always possible). |
| 19:19.26 | jetscreamer | notes that his kernel is 'still' compiling |
| 19:19.45 | jpinx | netkevin: for some reason the umpteenth attempt to reconfigure has worked |
| 19:19.52 | jetscreamer | the other boxes in the house dont' have linux or i'd remote it |
| 19:20.02 | netkevin | jpinx: I would be looking for the root cause of the configure problem, though I'm not sure what to do if it's just not giving any errors. |
| 19:20.07 | jpinx | buggered if I know why cos I've just been repeating the commands in bash |
| 19:20.11 | jetscreamer | hell i could boot a live cd come to think of it |
| 19:20.24 | netkevin | jpinx: Yeah, strange |
| 19:20.28 | jpinx | thanks for the perseverance netkevin |
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| 19:20.44 | netkevin | jpinx: But are you saying the conf file is there now? |
| 19:20.50 | jetscreamer | so did you --purge it and install, jpinx ? |
| 19:20.57 | simonrvn | #411982 - php5 makes a segmentation fault when php5-curl and php5-pgsql installed - Debian Bug report logs # workaround \o/ |
| 19:21.00 | nergoza | jetscreamer it installed it thanks, but before i did it i tried to compile the source of unrar and it didnt worked and i deleted the binary from /usr/local/bin and now each time i ran the command unrar im getting this |
| 19:21.09 | nergoza | -bash: /usr/local/bin/unrar: No such file or directory |
| 19:21.15 | netkevin | jpinx: Because if it thinks it is configured, but that file is missing, I would be skeptical of the "successful" configure. |
| 19:21.21 | nergoza | how can i fix this |
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| 19:21.29 | simonrvn | nergoza: hash -r |
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| 19:21.36 | jpinx | jetscreamer: purged, re-installed about 4 times, and reconfigured about10 times |
| 19:21.44 | simonrvn | nergoza: in your open shell |
| 19:21.51 | jetscreamer | not sure, you .. ah there ya go. (i was gonna say you could always supply the full path) |
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| 19:21.56 | nergoza | great! thanks simonrvn and jetscreamer now its working !!! |
| 19:22.12 | jetscreamer | yay team |
| 19:22.17 | jpinx | netkevin: the only thing I did different was I deleted all the config files before the last reconfigure |
| 19:22.28 | simonrvn | had to remember bash's equivalent of zsh's rehash =). |
| 19:22.38 | jpinx | so maybe reconfigure refuses to overwrite existing config files |
| 19:22.44 | netkevin | jpinx: with a --purge? |
| 19:22.46 | jetscreamer | that's a new one to me |
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| 19:23.00 | jpinx | me too |
| 19:23.07 | simonrvn | useful for such cases as that ^^^ :) |
| 19:23.10 | jpinx | but it's working now thanks guys |
| 19:23.38 | jpinx | now installs openssh-server on the *other* laptop |
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| 19:24.23 | simonrvn | jpinx: see debian policy about conffiles |
| 19:24.54 | jpinx | simonrvn: ok - I'll take a look |
| 19:25.06 | jetscreamer | and based on the one i did last night this compile has at least 20 minutes to go :/ |
| 19:25.10 | simonrvn | explains it in gory detail ;). |
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| 19:25.32 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: how long does it take? |
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| 19:26.07 | jetscreamer | haven't timed it, least an hour |
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| 19:26.18 | jetscreamer | i do other stuff while.... |
| 19:26.21 | l0bSTARR | www.klulz.com THE ONLY RADIO STATION ON THE INTERNET! |
| 19:26.24 | jetscreamer | xp2400 |
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| 19:26.38 | simonrvn | between 3 and 4 hours here... be happy it only take an hour. |
| 19:26.45 | simonrvn | l0bSTARR: shut up |
| 19:26.59 | childish | guys, i need help with the nautilus: while connected to my VPN i'm able to browse vpn's file: play mp3, view text files but can view pictures -only when i download them (it's not done automatically) What could the the reason? |
| 19:27.55 | childish | i get a message: image not found sftp://my_vpn_address |
| 19:28.09 | jetscreamer | simonrvn: yeah... and if the stock kernels actually worked on my box (2.6.26-2 AND 2.6.29-whatever) i wouldn't need to be doing this :/ |
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| 19:28.29 | steve | can a DDR2 667MHz DIMM be put into a mainboard which takes up to DDR2 400MHz? |
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| 19:28.37 | ma3x | how do i enable the other computer in the lan accessing the internet? i've already installed dnsmasq on the host |
| 19:28.40 | jetscreamer | 2.6.26-1 works fine |
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| 19:28.44 | netkevin | childish: Do you mean you see no thumbnails? |
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| 19:29.01 | jetscreamer | steve: yes but it will run at the speed of the slowest stick |
| 19:29.06 | jetscreamer | !ymmv |
| 19:29.06 | dpkg | methinks ymmv is an abbreviation of "Your mileage may vary." |
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| 19:29.13 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: :/ |
| 19:29.16 | childish | netkevin, there is no thumbnails as well |
| 19:29.17 | steve | jetscreamer: yeah, so if they're all DDR2 667 it will revert to 400MHz? |
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| 19:29.57 | childish | netkevin, but the pictures are there |
| 19:29.58 | jetscreamer | whatever it supports |
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| 19:30.20 | jpinx | netkevin: for the install on my 2nd box, I was careful to make sure there were no existing config files and it installed, configured, started and works in one pass ;) |
| 19:30.28 | jetscreamer | bbl 250,000 poker tourney |
| 19:30.43 | jpinx | learns a lesson:) |
| 19:31.18 | netkevin | childish: I know nautilus has an option to not thumbnail remote files, but I don't know anything else about your issue. Sorry. Never use VPN myself. |
| 19:31.49 | childish | netkevin, is there any configuration file for nautilus? |
| 19:31.55 | childish | i couldn't find it |
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| 19:32.13 | netkevin | childish: I believe its config is in gconf |
| 19:32.14 | childish | only the editor |
| 19:32.22 | mmind | childish, `gconf-editor` |
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| 19:32.29 | childish | this i know |
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| 19:32.58 | netkevin | childish: Which I think means that the config is in some ugly XML file somewhere, not meant for hand-editing. |
| 19:33.03 | simonrvn | "file management" from the menu |
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| 19:34.09 | childish | netkevin, i wish i could get logs or something but i don't know how to get them; how to implement -v in this case? |
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| 19:34.24 | simonrvn | childish: ~/.xsession-errors |
| 19:34.31 | valentin_ | Hi @ All |
| 19:34.37 | ma3x | how do i enable the other computer in the lan accessing the internet? i've already installed dnsmasq on the host\ |
| 19:34.46 | netkevin | childish: Sometimes you can get info by running an X app from a terminal. |
| 19:34.55 | childish | simonrvn, i'll try that |
| 19:35.12 | simonrvn | hint, use your pager on that ;) |
| 19:35.13 | valentin_ | im looking for an application to easily present pictures whith a little bit of text added.. |
| 19:35.37 | valentin_ | does anyone know of such an application do present pictures ? |
| 19:35.41 | abrotman | ma3x: that's for uh .. dns |
| 19:35.56 | abrotman | !tell ma3x about ipmasq |
| 19:36.13 | simonrvn | !abrotman |
| 19:36.13 | dpkg | abrotman is, like, someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?", or known for his often misinterpreted sense of humour, or one of the few nicks you can complete with left hand and four presses |
| 19:36.22 | abrotman | yay! |
| 19:36.50 | simonrvn | hehe. that's oooold |
| 19:36.54 | netkevin | valentin_: Lots of viewers have a slideshow mode, but not with captions. |
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| 19:37.23 | simonrvn | f-spo supposedly does, but that thing is slow. |
| 19:37.26 | simonrvn | spot* |
| 19:37.30 | valentin_ | netkevin: so you dont know how to. |
| 19:37.31 | netkevin | valentin_: The best I can come up with is to try an OpenOffice Impress slideshow |
| 19:37.33 | Wyg | Hey guys, couple of questions. Whenever I update, the latest version of Debian adds itself as a separate entry in the Grub OS list, is there any way I can stop it from doing this? Also, whenever I try to load the latest version, my x-server doesn't load (I had to do quite a few modifications to xorg.conf to get it to work). And Windows XP Professional (I dual-booted) isn't in the list since I updated, how can I get it back in there? |
| 19:37.44 | valentin_ | ok netkevin |
| 19:38.01 | abrotman | Wyg: why wouldn't you want it in grub? |
| 19:38.21 | Wyg | Well my problem is that it could get irritating. |
| 19:38.28 | Wyg | And I don't really see a reason to have old versions there. |
| 19:38.42 | childish | simonrvn, nothing really in there, something about my greasemonkey script |
| 19:38.45 | Wyg | Well, I suppose there could be compatibility issues with the latest version or whatever. |
| 19:39.00 | ma3x | abrotman: ive installed ipmasq. i can ping the host computer ip but can't ping any external ip.should i configure something ? |
| 19:39.03 | netkevin | Wyg sounds like you need to fix the grub menu file. It has an automatic section, and Windows shouldn't be in there. |
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| 19:39.10 | Wyg | But it'd be nice to just have Debian GNU/Linux and Windows XP Professional, especially since XP is set to default in menu.lst. |
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| 19:39.32 | Wyg | Yeah, Windows isn't in menu.lst anymore. |
| 19:39.43 | abrotman | ma3x: i can't recall if it allows pings ... |
| 19:39.53 | Wyg | Is there any way I can get Grub to automatically generate the menu.lst file like it did when I installed? |
| 19:39.55 | netkevin | Wyg: I don't think you'll be able to prevent the new kernel being added, but you might be able to set the default to something other than the latest. |
| 19:39.59 | Wyg | Or would I have to add it manually? |
| 19:40.12 | abrotman | Wyg: if you remove the old kernels, it should take them out of the grub config |
| 19:40.28 | Wyg | Hmm...when I update, is the entire menu.lst file modified, or just the automatic section? |
| 19:40.36 | ma3x | abrotman: well www doesnt work either |
| 19:40.37 | netkevin | Wyg: I'd check for a backup file first. Failing that, I'm not sure. |
| 19:40.40 | Wyg | So if I was to put Windows first, could I set it as default AND keep it there? |
| 19:40.51 | Wyg | Yeah, the backup is identical to the current version. |
| 19:40.56 | netkevin | Wyg: I think you can do that. |
| 19:42.04 | netkevin | Wyg: So getting your Windows entry back is not something I know how to do. Maybe there is a way to generate a default menu.list. That would certainly seem like a handy tool. |
| 19:42.29 | abrotman | os-prober should help there |
| 19:42.56 | Wyg | I don't know which section or partition of the hard drive or whatever Windows is on. |
| 19:43.24 | Wyg | I could look in Windows' boot.ini I suppose to see if it's in there, but for some reason I can't mount my Windows volume in Debian. |
| 19:43.29 | ma3x | abrotman: talkin to me |
| 19:43.51 | abrotman | no |
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| 19:44.13 | abrotman | ma3x: ipmasq is pretty easy .. normally if it's not working, you've messed it up |
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| 19:45.53 | Wyg | Okay, I installed os-prober through Synaptic. |
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| 19:45.58 | Wyg | But now I have no idea how to run it. |
| 19:46.35 | octoserver | when i tryed to play soething in kaffiene, it said audio device busy ? |
| 19:46.44 | octoserver | is that alsa tha tis busy, or artsd ? |
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| 19:51.23 | matt7676 | how can I view default gateway in debian? |
| 19:51.33 | netkevin | matt7676: route -n |
| 19:51.55 | netkevin | matt7676: look for the entry with UG flags |
| 19:52.08 | matt7676 | netkevin: thank you!! |
| 19:53.14 | netkevin | OK guys, it's been fun. I'm off to try to get some work done. |
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| 19:55.45 | Masterkong | what is the difference between apt-get install yadayada and aptitude install yadayada? it seems to be the same.. except using 2 different tools |
| 19:56.00 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 19:56.00 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
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| 19:58.54 | Wyzard | That last part (installing some packages and removing others at the same time) can be done with apt too |
| 19:59.00 | Wyzard | err, with apt-get |
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| 19:59.34 | abrotman | yeah .. now it can |
| 19:59.55 | Wyzard | That's been true for years |
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| 20:00.14 | abrotman | Wyzard: not in etch i don't think |
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| 20:01.00 | Wyzard | I was doing that with apt-get long before I switched to aptitude, and I'm pretty sure I switched to aptitude before etch was released |
| 20:01.18 | justin | Wyzard: yeah, the -,+ thing has worked for years |
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| 20:02.32 | abrotman | that factoid was last edited before etch |
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| 20:04.27 | Masterkong | the reason i asks is that i'm using sidux.. and them developers consider anything not "apt-get install" to be "not the sidux way" and wont help you if you go that way |
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| 20:04.42 | Masterkong | atleast thats teh offical standpoint |
| 20:05.05 | Wyzard | that's sidux's problem |
| 20:05.11 | Wyzard | aptitude has some quirks, but it's more powerful overall |
| 20:05.15 | abrotman | Masterkong: you sohuld be asking #sidux on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:05.18 | bolt | Masterkong: dpkg already said why aptitude |
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| 20:08.11 | Masterkong | i'm not asking a sidux question.. |
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| 20:09.00 | Masterkong | i wanted to know apt-get vs aptitude.. i guess there arn't an easy ansver |
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| 20:09.55 | Masterkong | later dudes.. gotta go to sleep.. |
| 20:09.59 | simonrvn | Masterkong: that's an ignorant position IMO. aptitude does much more than apt-get, and more effectively. |
| 20:10.01 | rudi_s | Masterkong: Just use aptitude ;-) |
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| 20:11.01 | Masterkong | hehe.. thay say that aptitude cant keep up with sids everchanging dependacy changes... |
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| 20:11.10 | simonrvn | "developers"? what, re-packaging something already packaged is development now? *sigh* |
| 20:11.13 | Masterkong | well.. whatever... |
| 20:11.28 | simonrvn | Masterkong: um, it does it better IME ;). |
| 20:11.31 | nick4 | how do I set the "niceness" of a program after it has begun running? (think compile) |
| 20:11.42 | Eulex | man renice |
| 20:11.43 | Masterkong | hehe.. later.. |
| 20:11.45 | simonrvn | nick4: renice |
| 20:11.52 | Vantage | anyone know when fglrx-driver 9.4 is going into sid for i386? Seems to be there for amd64 already... |
| 20:12.02 | nick4 | ohhh thanks simonrvn :D |
| 20:12.21 | simonrvn | thank Eulex too |
| 20:12.26 | Eulex | Vantage, if it's there for amd64 already, it will be there for i386 as soon as the buildds are finished with it |
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| 20:13.21 | Vantage | Eulex: is there somewhere to get it before it goes out to the mirrors (fglrx is uninstalable right now, so I've got no X at the moment...) |
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| 20:13.41 | Eulex | Vantage, sorry, I don't know |
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| 20:13.47 | nick4 | brb |
| 20:14.02 | Eulex | but check out /msg dpkg sdn for earlier versions, or perhaps try the one from testing |
| 20:14.30 | theswellseason | does anyone here have a recommendation for a good broadcasting software that can be used to stream via icecast server? (something similar to SAM broadcaster) |
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| 20:16.24 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the command to send an X process into the bg without stopping/killing it? |
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| 20:17.53 | rudi_s | jpinx-eeepc: Ctrl-Z |
| 20:18.02 | rudi_s | jpinx-eeepc: Then bg |
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| 20:20.02 | jpinx-eeepc | rudi_s: ah - ok - it's a combination - thanks :) |
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| 20:20.51 | rudi_s | jpinx-eeepc: np, works for every program. |
| 20:21.03 | rudi_s | jpinx-eeepc: Without bg X would be stopped. |
| 20:21.39 | devurandom | Hello! |
| 20:22.47 | devurandom | I am trying to run the Debian 5.0.1 installer from the netinst CD. It appears as if it has the network misconfigured. How can I setup a working WLAN config while the installer is already configuring the package manager? |
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| 20:24.13 | jpinx-eeepc | rudi_s: yep - all good thanks :) |
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| 20:25.10 | bbelt16ag | hi peeps what's the command to see how many more mounts I got on my drives before it does a check of them? |
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| 20:25.31 | nkuttler | devurandom: let the process fail and go back to the menu? |
| 20:25.31 | rudi_s | jpinx-eeepc: np ;-) |
| 20:26.04 | ma3x | should ipmasq be installed on the host or client computer in the lan |
| 20:26.04 | abrotman | host |
| 20:26.04 | adama26 | bbelt16ag: try tune2fs |
| 20:26.04 | devurandom | nkuttler: But wont I have to run through all the partitioning again? |
| 20:27.17 | nkuttler | devurandom: not sure about that.. iirc in expert mode you don't. i guess ctrl+alt+Fx doesn't lead to a terminal? |
| 20:27.23 | bbelt16ag | how? |
| 20:27.38 | devurandom | nkuttler: I am running the textbased installer. And I have terminals. |
| 20:27.41 | devurandom | 2 at least |
| 20:27.47 | nkuttler | devurandom: so run dhclient or whatever |
| 20:28.12 | ma3x | abrotman: i installed ipmasq on the host but i can ping the host ip but not the outside ips, any idea ? i use wlan to connect on the outside internet and eth to connect the host/client in lan. wlan range is 192.168.1... and eth 192.168.31.. |
| 20:28.52 | adama26 | bbelt16ag: example: tune2fs -l /dev/sda6 |
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| 20:29.21 | bbelt16ag | bah |
| 20:29.28 | bbelt16ag | I tried everyother letter |
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| 20:30.30 | adama26 | bbelt16ag: probably not the best idea... you should try tune2fs --help or "man tune2fs" if you don't know how to use a program |
| 20:30.33 | devurandom | Could also be that it used a wrong AP for configuration. One which is down by now maybe... |
| 20:30.46 | bbelt16ag | heh |
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| 20:30.59 | bbelt16ag | ok ok I didn't do that, I did look at the man page and the --help first.. |
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| 20:31.03 | bbelt16ag | then I got frustrated. |
| 20:31.19 | bbelt16ag | I didn't see a -l |
| 20:31.29 | adama26 | ok |
| 20:31.50 | bbelt16ag | just don't want my system to boot up and take forever and it be my disks being checked. since they are really big |
| 20:32.07 | zamba | i'm using apt-cacher-ng to cache deb packages.. but now i have one in the cache that's broken (hash sum not right).. how can i maintain this? |
| 20:32.27 | bbelt16ag | btw should disks that are used ina server and on 24/7 be checked more often or less often? |
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| 20:32.34 | bbelt16ag | I am using 30 right now |
| 20:33.16 | bolt | bbelt16ag: depends on how often the server is rebooted compared to a normal machine |
| 20:33.28 | bbelt16ag | not often |
| 20:33.36 | bolt | bbelt16ag: the idea is that the about of reboots should roughly compare to the amount of days set |
| 20:33.46 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 20:33.53 | bbelt16ag | yeah about once a month would be right |
| 20:33.56 | bolt | bbelt16ag: the default amount of days is 180, i think, so the number of reboots should be how often you expect to reboot the machine in that time |
| 20:34.04 | nkuttler | hm, isn't there a replacement for xfree's README.mouse.gz? |
| 20:34.12 | bolt | bbelt16ag: which would be 6, then |
| 20:34.23 | bolt | bbelt16ag: ..if you care to fiddle with it anyway. i wouldn't |
| 20:34.24 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 20:34.43 | bbelt16ag | well makes my hear skip a beat when it takes a while to boot up. |
| 20:35.04 | bolt | bbelt16ag: then i'd set it a lot higher |
| 20:35.08 | bbelt16ag | ok |
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| 20:36.46 | zsakr | whats a good cdr burning program for linux, i dont like brasero |
| 20:37.10 | bolt | zsakr: just try a few, really |
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| 20:37.24 | bolt | zsakr: if you don't want to install each one, look for screenshots on google |
| 20:38.04 | bolt | zsakr: also, you might want to go with something that fits your wm |
| 20:38.14 | bolt | zsakr: or, rather, desktop environment |
| 20:38.22 | bolt | zsakr: like k3b for kde and xfburn for xfce |
| 20:38.32 | bolt | not that it really matters, however |
| 20:38.56 | zsakr | i dont use kde tho |
| 20:39.05 | bolt | it was just an example |
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| 20:39.28 | zsakr | brasero looks nice and all but it seems slow as hell |
| 20:39.44 | bolt | so try something else :) |
| 20:39.58 | devurandom | Hm, I switched to cable connection, since I was too "stupid" to setup the wireless connection... |
| 20:40.20 | devurandom | But it seems to do something now. Thanks! |
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| 20:41.24 | zsakr | yu bolt |
| 20:41.27 | zsakr | ty |
| 20:41.28 | zsakr | :P |
| 20:41.34 | bolt | np |
| 20:41.46 | zsakr | xfburn's site says it is still under heavey development |
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| 20:42.11 | devurandom | Something seems to have deleted the nameserver setup, etc... Can that happen automatically during the installer? |
| 20:42.45 | zsakr | bolt ? |
| 20:43.13 | bolt | zsakr: ! |
| 20:43.14 | zsakr | xfburn's site says it is still under heavey development |
| 20:44.40 | bolt | zsakr: then feel free to try it and see if it works for you, or try something else. you have my permission to do either. |
| 20:45.19 | bolt | zsakr: note that heavy development might be a good thing or a bad thing, same as "not being developed at all" |
| 20:45.29 | devurandom | hmm... Do I somewhen get the possibility to choose KDE vs. Gnome? I thought it would appear during package/configuration selection... |
| 20:45.31 | bolt | zsakr: all depends on the current state of the product, really |
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| 20:46.04 | bolt | devurandom: you can select any environment you want once you reach the command line |
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| 20:46.16 | devurandom | Ah, ok. |
| 20:46.27 | bolt | devurandom: apt-get install kde or apt-get install gnome or apt-get install xfce4 or apt-get install anything else, really |
| 20:46.34 | devurandom | So I install kde and delete gnome when I got that far? |
| 20:46.44 | bolt | if you like |
| 20:47.12 | bolt | decisions, decisions... |
| 20:47.15 | devurandom | Probably using "purge" instead, so I get really rid of it? |
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| 20:47.24 | devurandom | Or is that not recursive? |
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| 20:47.32 | bolt | devurandom: "recursive"? |
| 20:48.01 | bolt | devurandom: purge is good, if you know you're never going to install it again. you can also purge the config files later if you so desire. |
| 20:48.06 | devurandom | Does the purge command apply to the specified package only, or also to any unnecessary packages which will be removed in addition? |
| 20:48.21 | nkuttler | hm, what's the best way to force a re-read of file from hd without linux caching it? |
| 20:48.30 | bolt | devurandom: any, i'd think. |
| 20:49.58 | devurandom | ubuntuforums.org says "tasks=kde-desktop" on the boot commandline will install kde instead of gnome for the netinstall cd. (though the info is a little bit older) |
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| 20:50.22 | abrotman | !tell devurandom about remove gnome |
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| 20:50.33 | pp__ | hallo |
| 20:50.53 | pp__ | can anybody give the path to the oldstable cd images? |
| 20:50.55 | rudi_s | devurandom: I'm not sure, but you can use ~c as search pattern in aptitude to find unpurged packages. |
| 20:51.09 | devurandom | Thanks abrotman! |
| 20:51.19 | devurandom | rudi_s: Thanks, too. :) |
| 20:51.25 | abrotman | !tell pp__ about cd archive |
| 20:51.28 | devurandom | Nice little snippets. :) |
| 20:51.36 | rudi_s | devurandom: np ;-) |
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| 20:52.05 | devurandom | And of course thanks to bolt and nkuttler, too. ;) |
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| 20:59.47 | ringo999 | i want to mix some music files and burn to a cd. what is a good software for that? |
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| 21:02.55 | adb | !tell ringo999 about search |
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| 21:12.16 | Quibus | Asking again: a friend of mine installed lenny and got this error when booting: "acpi invalid PBLK length [5]" on his Asus p4pe with latest BIOS... |
| 21:12.26 | Quibus | Any ideas? |
| 21:12.35 | abrotman | does that error cause problems? |
| 21:12.54 | Drakeson | how can I force aptitude to ignore a bogus dependency when I want to install a package? |
| 21:13.07 | abrotman | what makes you think it's bogus? |
| 21:13.10 | lostson | Drakeson: how do you know they are bogus |
| 21:13.12 | Drakeson | wasn't there a force-depends option? |
| 21:13.16 | Quibus | abrotman: yes, it fails to boot |
| 21:13.17 | abrotman | you don't want to use it |
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| 21:13.29 | abrotman | Quibus: acpi=off .. try again |
| 21:13.31 | lostson | Quibus: use the noacpi option when booting |
| 21:13.49 | lostson | damn it abrotman get out of my head |
| 21:14.02 | abrotman | lostson: oyu got confused with noapic ? |
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| 21:14.15 | lostson | yeah |
| 21:14.44 | Quibus | darn, the guy already removed the installation :( |
| 21:15.04 | Quibus | he immediately gave up on Debian! He's not worthy? :S |
| 21:15.25 | lostson | hopefully someday all that acpi crap will get solved |
| 21:15.32 | abrotman | Quibus: bleh .. he's not a friend! |
| 21:15.42 | Quibus | I asked him to try again to help us find what's going wrong |
| 21:15.45 | Quibus | Let's see what happens |
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| 21:15.54 | abrotman | Quibus: also, you could try the kmuto |
| 21:15.56 | Drakeson | abrotman: I am using unstable and sometimes some packages are updated while some others that depend on them haven't updated their debian/control yet. |
| 21:16.06 | Quibus | dpkg, kmuto? |
| 21:16.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kmuto is For lenny (or etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 21:16.07 | abrotman | Drakeson: okay .. so wait til the next push |
| 21:16.12 | theswellseason | I asked this earlier and didn't get much response, but nothing's working so I'll ask again. Does anyone have an idea of a broadcasting software similar to SAM that works for Debian? |
| 21:16.24 | abrotman | what is SAM? |
| 21:16.37 | theswellseason | it's a broadcast software |
| 21:16.45 | theswellseason | like, you can stream music and voice over it |
| 21:17.01 | abrotman | theswellseason: did you try icecast-server ? |
| 21:17.07 | abrotman | or liveice |
| 21:17.08 | theswellseason | well that's the thing |
| 21:17.15 | Quibus | abrotman: he figured that as it was a brand new release, it would work without problems, especially because Ubuntu and Puppy also worked... |
| 21:17.50 | abrotman | Quibus: it doesn't mean the kernels have the same options |
| 21:17.54 | abrotman | or patches .. etc |
| 21:17.57 | Quibus | That's what I told him |
| 21:18.03 | theswellseason | abrotman, can liveice stream mp3s? |
| 21:18.11 | abrotman | theswellseason: never used it |
| 21:18.15 | Quibus | But he's a "it should just work" guy :-) |
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| 21:18.28 | abrotman | theswellseason: description implies so |
| 21:18.48 | stdisease | can anybody access pastebay?? |
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| 21:19.16 | abrotman | stdisease: use paste.debian.net ? |
| 21:19.41 | jmut | mm.. I see that I don't have loopback interface. thought it's always on. how can I up it ? |
| 21:20.07 | stdisease | abrotman, I know thx, but I was wondering if others aren't able to access pastebay as well |
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| 21:22.05 | miro_dietiker | i have a failed mdadm device (md1 : active raid1 sda2[2](F) sdb2[1], 32009408 blocks [2/1] [_U]) |
| 21:22.37 | miro_dietiker | does it make any sense to remove and readd it again? |
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| 21:23.45 | tetraedr | hi |
| 21:23.47 | kittonian | is there a way to use the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files so that everyone is blocked and the all: paranoid directive is given in the hosts.deny file but one single ip address/netmask will be allowed to get through no matter if the hostname matches or not? |
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| 21:24.02 | hogwash | hiya |
| 21:24.07 | hogwash | im looking for man pages of the C API |
| 21:24.15 | hogwash | no man entry for strcpy |
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| 21:24.25 | abrotman | manpages-dev |
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| 21:25.06 | hogwash | apt-get install manpages-dev |
| 21:25.08 | hogwash | thanx |
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| 21:26.14 | tetraedr | where do I find as86? |
| 21:26.20 | tetraedr | there is no such package :( |
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| 21:27.08 | abrotman | !tell tetraedr about search |
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| 21:27.46 | tetraedr | abrotman, apt-file helped :) package bin86. thank you |
| 21:28.26 | kittonian | anyone? |
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| 21:33.29 | careta | I want to build a kernel package with make-kpkg, but i want to compile the kernel myself. is there any way to do it? |
| 21:33.43 | shootm3h | according to some closed bugs, nvidia-glx provided by debian should already work on Xen, however i'm running lenny, and it aint working. i have two machines now, one with nvidia the other with ati. i don't care which but i want 3d on one of them. pls. anybody. ? |
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| 21:34.12 | shootm3h | i can't even build the modules manually under Xen, errors out, the patches are 2 years old.... |
| 21:34.19 | Wyzard | If nVidia's driver supports Xen, that's news to me |
| 21:34.30 | Wyzard | Last I heard it explicitly doesn't support it |
| 21:34.40 | shootm3h | check it out http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367326 |
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| 21:34.51 | shootm3h | but again, the bug is around the same patch that is two years old |
| 21:34.51 | Wyzard | Older versions of the script installer would build the module but it'd lock the machine when loaded; later versions would detect Xen and error out |
| 21:35.00 | shootm3h | this is the same state as the xen patches for fglrx |
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| 21:35.12 | Tramp | kittonian: you put the address you want to allow in hosts.allow and the all paranoid entry in hosts.deny. I just don't get if you want to block ALL:PARANOID or ALL:ALL. |
| 21:35.14 | deonild | Can I install FluxBox WM on a fresh Debian Stable Gnome install, and it will use the Gnome apps? or would it be better to do fresh install with no DE, then install FluxBox and apps/some Gnome |
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| 21:35.20 | shootm3h | not just debian either, why the HELL would there be OpenVZ versions of the nvidia driver and not Xen ? |
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| 21:35.38 | Wyzard | What I just described (nVidia's own installer gaining recognition of Xen and saying it's not supported) is about a year ago, more recent than a 2-year-old patch |
| 21:35.59 | shootm3h | hell. now i have crippled 3d on both my machines. jajajaja |
| 21:36.01 | Wyzard | Xen is very different from OpenVZ |
| 21:36.07 | shootm3h | i want Xen, and i want 3d :( |
| 21:36.33 | Wyzard | OpenVZ doesn't virtualize the hardware away from the kernel; Xen does |
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| 21:37.08 | Quibus | good night folks |
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| 21:37.09 | shootm3h | Wyzard, oh i c. is that better or worse ? :P i haven't looked at openVZ, and i'm pretending KVM doesn't exist :P |
| 21:37.35 | Wyzard | depends on what you need |
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| 21:38.12 | shootm3h | Wyzard, i c, well my main idea is thin client. very small footprint thin clients i might add. but the ability to run 3d would be nice, especially for sweet home3d etc |
| 21:38.15 | Wyzard | OpenVZ, if I understand correctly, runs multiple VMs under a single kernel by virtualizing userspace so that different groups of processes can't see each other |
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| 21:38.30 | deonild | Can I install FluxBox WM on a fresh Debian Stable Gnome install, and it will use the Gnome apps? or would it be better to do fresh install with no DE, then install FluxBox and apps/some Gnome. Anyone have experience using fluxbox on debian with gnome?? |
| 21:38.33 | Wyzard | Xen runs multiple entire kernels (one for each VM) under a hypervisor |
| 21:38.53 | Wyzard | so the OpenVZ approach is more lightweight, but also less flexible |
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| 21:39.08 | Wyzard | People can't load custom kernel modules in an OpenVZ virtual machine; they can in a Xen domain |
| 21:39.19 | shootm3h | Wyzard, well you've given me more food for thought, sounds more interesting (ie another choice) than KVM. |
| 21:39.48 | shootm3h | Wyzard, i shall go and read. dammnit i'd hoped Xen was final, but this graphics thing is a real bug. |
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| 21:40.10 | Wyzard | I think KVM is more like VirtualBox or VMware, running a kernel and its userspace as a process within another OS |
| 21:40.17 | nayx_ | deonild: if you dont want to waste diskspace go for a clean install |
| 21:40.36 | nayx_ | deonild: you just need the gtk libs to run gnome apps in fluxbox |
| 21:41.04 | Wyzard | shootm3h: I use VMware on GUI desktops where I want graphics, and Xen on headless machines |
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| 21:41.41 | shootm3h | Wyzard, yes, i had put KVM in that boat too :P. Now, openvz runs i guess like those Sun Containers do i guess? is that right ? not the xVM stuff, i can't remember the name now |
| 21:42.04 | deonild | nayx_: do I need to install fluxbox and gtklibs, or will it be installed? |
| 21:42.11 | Wyzard | I don't know about Sun containers, and I don't have hands-on experience with OpenVZ |
| 21:42.26 | Wyzard | I've only personally used VMware (Workstation and Server) and Xen |
| 21:42.37 | shootm3h | Wyzard, oh i c . :S. doh. well i'll carry on readin . ;p i aint touchin vmware :D |
| 21:42.46 | shootm3h | Wyzard, thanks for the info :) |
| 21:42.49 | nayx_ | deonild: you install fluxbox, and if you install your gtk app via apt it will resolve all the dependencies and run fine |
| 21:43.06 | Wyzard | shootm3h: VMware is non-free, but it's a more mature product than VBox, so it's not all bad |
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| 21:43.33 | xiq | hello! is there an emerald package for debian? |
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| 21:44.08 | xiq | =/ |
| 21:44.10 | deonild | nayx_: I got gnome up, after fresh install including gnome so much have gtk resolve so should work. Thx |
| 21:44.13 | abrotman | judd: versions emerald |
| 21:44.13 | judd | abrotman: emerald -- |
| 21:44.31 | xiq | i'm confused |
| 21:44.33 | valdyn | xiq: are you talking about emerald window decoration for compiz? |
| 21:44.45 | xiq | valdyn: yes! |
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| 21:45.08 | valdyn | xiq: its somewhere in the compiz plugins |
| 21:45.17 | xiq | ok i'l search... |
| 21:45.22 | xiq | *ll |
| 21:45.22 | amphi | xiq: it's easy to build from source; you just need to match the version of compiz you run |
| 21:45.34 | valdyn | xiq: theres not even a file named after it |
| 21:45.40 | valdyn | xiq: i can activate it though |
| 21:45.59 | valdyn | question is why the hell anyone would use emerald |
| 21:46.06 | valdyn | when the other plugin is completely skinnable |
| 21:46.29 | xiq | =( when i click compiz... then i dont have window decoration, thats why |
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| 21:47.12 | amphi | xiq: what happens if you run a decorator, like g-w-d ? |
| 21:47.16 | valdyn | maybe emerald is gone in compiz 0.8.x |
| 21:47.20 | valdyn | i know i used it in lenny |
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| 21:48.01 | xiq | well i have everything normal, but when i click compiz-> window MANAGER -> compiz then the decoration disapears oO |
| 21:48.06 | amphi | there was no official emerald package in lenny as far as I know |
| 21:48.14 | amphi | xiq: what happens if you run a decorator, like g-w-d ? |
| 21:48.34 | valdyn | it doesnt need an extra package to be there |
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| 21:48.40 | valdyn | theres no extra package for any compiz plugin |
| 21:48.48 | xiq | amphi: i only HAVE gnome window manager as decorator and it works fine, but if I choose compiz it disapeares |
| 21:48.54 | amphi | it's not a plugin, it's a decorator |
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| 21:49.02 | valdyn | thats the same thing |
| 21:49.39 | amphi | xiq: you are confused; compiz is the only wm that has decorations drawn by a separate process |
| 21:49.41 | valdyn | seems to be gone in compiz 0.8.x anyway |
| 21:49.58 | xiq | wait i get wobbly |
| 21:50.02 | amphi | valdyn: none of the decorators are plugins; they're separate processes |
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| 21:50.28 | valdyn | amphi: theres a decorator plugin |
| 21:50.34 | xiq | look, emerald is the only decorator/manager that gives effects |
| 21:50.35 | valdyn | amphi: maybe that also start another process |
| 21:50.53 | valdyn | xiq: it is in lenny, so use it.. |
| 21:51.14 | xiq | wait i think i am lenny. but i search for emerald and.. nothing |
| 21:51.44 | amphi | valdyn: ah - the decoration plugin; yeah, it can start a decorator, if one is not already running |
| 21:52.00 | amphi | valdyn: BTW, http://releases.compiz-fusion.org/0.8.2/emerald-0.8.2.tar.bz2 |
| 21:52.11 | xiq | thx amphi :) |
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| 21:52.27 | valdyn | amphi: whats the executables name? |
| 21:52.38 | amphi | emerald |
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| 21:53.18 | amphi | valdyn: it has a lib and a gui theme chooser/editor |
| 21:53.38 | xiq | oh i have to compile it? @.@ |
| 21:53.40 | amphi | and probably some other bits and pieces; I haven't played with compiz in a while |
| 21:53.42 | valdyn | amphi: i must be confusing emerald with a different docrator |
| 21:53.50 | valdyn | amphi: and thats not gtk-window-decorator |
| 21:53.57 | amphi | valdyn: ah, ok |
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| 21:54.46 | amphi | xiq: yes; you can grab the source tarball from releases.compiz-fusion.org; makes sure to get the version matching your version of compiz |
| 21:54.59 | amphi | xiq: it doesn't have that many deps |
| 21:55.20 | xiq | phew... |
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| 21:55.50 | amphi | xiq: well, it only links to 52 shared libs ;) |
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| 21:56.59 | amphi | xiq: you'll need x & gtk -dev packages, and libwnck headers also if I recall correctly |
| 21:57.02 | xiq | wait |
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| 21:57.12 | xiq | i'll just try to get compiz-manager running... |
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| 21:57.27 | amphi | I have no idea what that is |
| 21:57.39 | amphi | xiq: try running gtk-window-decorator from a term |
| 21:57.44 | xiq | ok |
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| 21:59.43 | xiq | wow |
| 22:00.01 | xiq | unhandled action _OB_WM_ACTION_UNDECORATE |
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| 22:01.11 | amphi | xiq: groovy |
| 22:01.17 | careta | I need help with make-kpkg. I want to compile the kernel myself and make a kernel package. is there any way to do it? |
| 22:01.22 | amphi | xiq: is the deco plugin enabled in ccsm? |
| 22:01.36 | xiq | wait |
| 22:01.47 | bolt | careta: why do you want to compile a kernel? |
| 22:01.53 | xiq | windowdecoration enabled |
| 22:02.12 | xiq | the command is: gtk-window-decorator --replace |
| 22:02.16 | careta | bolt, because i want to use intel c++ compiler and linker instead of gcc |
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| 22:02.43 | Wyzard | careta: I told you how to do that earlier today |
| 22:03.11 | careta | Wyzard, creating the stamp directory doesn't work, and doing make-kpkg with the source build just builds it again |
| 22:03.20 | amphi | xiq: I never saw that error myself - ask in #compiz-fusion perhaps |
| 22:03.29 | Wyzard | careta: The stamps are files, not directories |
| 22:03.38 | careta | I created the stamp/build directory, put a file called kernel with the contents "done" inside |
| 22:04.02 | careta | Wyzard, I ran a full make-kpkg compile to see how it worked, and mimicked it |
| 22:04.03 | Wyzard | What documentation did you read that told you to do that? |
| 22:04.18 | xiq | ok thx |
| 22:04.26 | careta | Wyzard, didn't read any, just followed what you said earlier |
| 22:05.17 | Wyzard | I'm just wondering where you found that you need to create a directory with that specific name, containing a file called "kernel" with the word "done" in it |
| 22:06.20 | Wyzard | I haven't used make-kpkg in awhile so maybe things have changed, but that's not how I remember it working |
| 22:07.29 | careta | as I said above, i built a package with make-kpkg and mimicked the process |
| 22:07.46 | kittonian | is there a way to use the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files so that everyone is blocked and the all: paranoid directive is given in the hosts.deny file but one single ip address/netmask will be allowed to get through no matter if the hostname matches or not? |
| 22:07.47 | careta | man make-kpkg doesn't help at all |
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| 22:09.28 | karim | how can I extract a pacackage to get the *.install file ? |
| 22:09.46 | karim | dpkg -x doesn't extract them |
| 22:09.46 | dpkg | karim: I give up, what is it? |
| 22:09.47 | Wyzard | careta: Look in the debian/ directory for files with names beginning with "stamp-" |
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| 22:10.25 | StyXman | hi 'vrybody. I'm trying to set the cpu freq with CLI tools, like cpufreq-set. I try to set the freq with cpufreq-set -f 2.2GHz, but cpufreq-info shows it's still at 800MHz. I run that as root. any hints? |
| 22:10.49 | careta | Wyzard, there aren't any, just a directory called stamp |
| 22:10.54 | StyXman | karim: ar x <debfile>, then untar control.tar.gz |
| 22:11.13 | Wyzard | I guess it's changed then, though I don't see anything about it in the package's changelog |
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| 22:12.58 | Wyzard | Is there a reason why you can't just set CC=icc and let make-kpkg do its own build, btw? |
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| 22:13.13 | karim | StyXman: I don't understand |
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| 22:13.30 | karim | StyXman: ok it's not a typo |
| 22:13.35 | StyXman | karim: a debfile is actually an ar file containing two tar.gs files in it |
| 22:14.31 | StyXman | karim: so you just 'ar x [debfile]' which gives you a data.tar.gz and a control.tar.gz. decompress the latter |
| 22:14.48 | careta | Wyzard, i need to issue the following command to build the kernel: make HOSTCC=intelwrapper CC=intelwrapper Ar=xiar LD=xild |
| 22:14.59 | karim | StyXman: the install script is not in there |
| 22:15.06 | kittonian | nevermind, i got it |
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| 22:15.13 | karim | StyXman: this is strange |
| 22:15.26 | Wyzard | careta: then set those environment variables when running make-kpkg, and they should be passed through to make |
| 22:15.47 | StyXman | karim: nad in data.t.gz? |
| 22:15.54 | careta | the intelwrapper is a wrapper for icc. that is used by make-kpkg fine. the Ar and LD variables I have no idea what they do, but exporting them and then running make-kpkg doesn't give the same output as the command above |
| 22:16.18 | Wyzard | careta: Actually, the make-kpkg manpage has an example that involves setting a MAKEFLAGS variable containing the other variables you want to be set, so try that |
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| 22:16.29 | valdyn | careta: MAKEFLAGS="HOSTCC=intelwrapper CC=intelwrapper Ar=xiar LD=xild" make-kpkg blah |
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| 22:17.04 | Wyzard | careta: LD specifies the linker, and Ar is the archiver used to create static libraries (though I'm not sure how that's involved in the process of building a kernel) |
| 22:17.35 | valdyn | why would anyone try to use icc to compile linux kernels? |
| 22:18.12 | valdyn | Intuitively id just think theres no way that could work, but what do i know |
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| 22:19.01 | Wyzard | wonders if MSVC could be used to compile Linux :-) |
| 22:19.16 | careta | valdyn, it seems you can get from 5 to 20% performance gain, although I'm not sure how that's measurable. Anyway, the kernel is patched to support compilation using ICC |
| 22:19.31 | karim | StyXman: no but in fact it's logical, it's installed before the deb archives is created |
| 22:19.35 | careta | valdyn, your command worked. thanks |
| 22:19.40 | valdyn | careta: as far as kernel code matter in "performance" |
| 22:19.43 | karim | so it's not in there |
| 22:20.13 | valdyn | careta: you want to compile the code that actually runs with icc first |
| 22:20.38 | StyXman | karim: created? sorry, I just got in the middle of your problem. what was it? |
| 22:20.46 | Wyzard | careta: Are those numbers based on actual benchmarks of an icc-compiled Linux kernel, or did you just read somewhere that icc produces faster code than gcc? |
| 22:22.03 | Wyzard | careta: Intel's compiler may be able to produce better-optimized code, but most programs don't spend much time running kernel code anyway, so compiling your kernel with icc seems unlikely to make much difference |
| 22:22.09 | careta | Wyzard, valdyn I'm not saying this is true, it may be bullshit. I'm just trying it. I read about it in http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linuxdna-supercharges-linux-intel-cc-compiler |
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| 22:22.52 | karim | StyXman: my problem is that my tar.gz source was corrupted, and I wanted to still save some files :/ |
| 22:23.04 | karim | so I though I could find them in the .deb |
| 22:23.12 | valdyn | average boost of 8%-9% "possible" |
| 22:23.15 | valdyn | thats useless |
| 22:23.37 | careta | well, it's worth to try just for fun. any idea how can i benchmark this? |
| 22:23.45 | Wyzard | You'd get much more benefit from compiling your CPU-intensive applications with icc |
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| 22:23.53 | valdyn | careta: well, "benchmarking" this is silly |
| 22:24.01 | jelly-home | careta: do you have a typical workload on your machine? |
| 22:24.15 | valdyn | careta: i mean, you can artificially make alot of kernel code run, but thats not going to draw a useful picture |
| 22:24.17 | StyXman | karim: is some file is missing in the .deb the the packaging didn't go as spected |
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| 22:24.27 | valdyn | careta: run something realistic, see if its faster |
| 22:24.29 | jelly-home | careta: how much of that workload cpu time is spent in kernel? |
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| 22:24.46 | careta | I have no idea |
| 22:25.00 | careta | the most cpu intensive application I use is probably the javac compiler |
| 22:25.04 | valdyn | careta: compile a kernel, see if thats faster |
| 22:25.13 | valdyn | careta: or javac, not bad either |
| 22:25.20 | jelly-home | careta: find the answer to those questions, then you'll have an idea of what number to expect _if_ the 5-20% is true |
| 22:25.38 | careta | that's why i'm trying this |
| 22:25.39 | careta | to see if it's worth it |
| 22:25.50 | valdyn | but these things are more likely to yield in the 1% range of any |
| 22:25.55 | Wyzard | careta: All the real work that javac does is in userspace, not part of the kernel |
| 22:26.20 | valdyn | careta: networking benchmark maybe |
| 22:26.22 | Wyzard | careta: All the kernel does for javac is handle file I/O |
| 22:26.45 | careta | well |
| 22:26.52 | careta | if it boots faster, i'm happy |
| 22:27.02 | Wyzard | send a command to the disk controller when javac requests data from a file; copy a range of bytes in RAM back into javac's read buffer when the command finishes |
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| 22:27.03 | valdyn | careta: not going to boot faster |
| 22:27.22 | jelly-home | careta: you should first find what your bottlenecks are, then think about optimizing |
| 22:27.40 | valdyn | careta: using insserv is an easy way to boot alot faster, in debian |
| 22:28.19 | Wyzard | If you could compile javac itself with icc, that might make a difference |
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| 22:29.05 | careta | Wyzard, yes but javac is closed source i think |
| 22:29.17 | valdyn | careta: nope |
| 22:29.25 | careta | valdyn, what's insserv? |
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| 22:30.15 | valdyn | careta: changes boot scripts to be run dependency based, then optionally in parallel where depends permit |
| 22:30.44 | careta | yes I see it in synaptic... I just install it and it is auto-configured? |
| 22:30.58 | valdyn | careta: read the docs |
| 22:31.05 | careta | ok thanks |
| 22:31.12 | valdyn | careta: it dont know how big chances are right now that it will break your boot |
| 22:31.34 | valdyn | careta: i can only say that it works on this box, i dont use it where things functioning is important |
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| 22:32.07 | careta | i better backup first then |
| 22:32.13 | foetus | uff, my two mm-kernels are working..hard work |
| 22:32.54 | devurandom | abrotman: You made dpkg point me to info about removing Gnome. It says "use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-*", but aptitude replies to me with "Couldn't find any package whoise name or description matched ..." Do you know what's wrong? |
| 22:33.05 | abrotman | devurandom: they're not installed? |
| 22:33.42 | devurandom | But "gnome" is installed... |
| 22:34.12 | devurandom | And I have stuff like "libgnome2-0" or "libgnome2-common". |
| 22:34.54 | devurandom | "search" on that names results in something (greping ^i), but purge seems to have some issues... |
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| 22:36.26 | Drakeson | ubuntu live disk manages to run metacity+compiz plugins, where as I haven't been able to make that work in debian. I am trying to find what ubuntu does differently, so I got dpkg -l from the ubuntu live cd. What else can I get that shows X server settings? (xorg.conf is not so informative, it does not even state which driver to use) |
| 22:37.11 | devurandom | I guess the info dpkg carries is broken then... |
| 22:37.22 | Drakeson | no, it is not. |
| 22:37.25 | abrotman | Drakeson: i think you want #ubuntu |
| 22:37.32 | Drakeson | abrotman: no!!!! |
| 22:37.57 | devurandom | Drakeson: But it does not work the way it told me... |
| 22:38.06 | abrotman | devurandom: did you try `aptitude remove gnome`? |
| 22:38.13 | devurandom | No, not yet. |
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| 22:38.25 | devurandom | Because your dpkg bot hint told me otherwise... |
| 22:39.29 | devurandom | It does not uninstall all those libs, etc. Just 25 packages... |
| 22:40.01 | Drakeson | Can you give me a few suggestions for logs to read and configurations to dump for a comparison? I want to compare the X server in ubuntu with my debian's X server. |
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| 22:41.04 | careta | Drakeson, debian packages are usually older than ubuntu's... it might be the packages' version |
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| 22:41.37 | devurandom | older? Last time I looked Debian was far newer, at least for those for which I looked. |
| 22:41.56 | orioni_ | anyone used openvas on debian ? |
| 22:41.57 | Drakeson | careta: I am using unstable. I checked all what I see in dpkg -l in both cases, and debian packages are either of the same version or newer. |
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| 22:42.01 | valdyn | Drakeson: you are thinking that ubuntu can run metactiy with compiz plugins? |
| 22:42.12 | valdyn | Drakeson: thats nonsense |
| 22:42.18 | SaneSmith | is there a way to get packages which are as new as Ubuntu's in my debian install? |
| 22:42.26 | careta | devurandom, for example, lenny is using gnome 2.22 but ubuntu 8.10 is using gnome 2.24 |
| 22:42.36 | SaneSmith | do I update to unstable? or testing |
| 22:43.14 | Drakeson | valdyn: That was a guess. I spent only a few minutes investigating the live cd. |
| 22:43.30 | Drakeson | It runs compiz then. |
| 22:43.35 | valdyn | Drakeson: ok, if it behaves like compiz, then it is compiz |
| 22:43.53 | valdyn | Drakeson: and if it looks like metacity then its using the gtk-window-decorator, which debian does too |
| 22:44.18 | SaneSmith | anyone? |
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| 22:44.40 | valdyn | SaneSmith: try testing first |
| 22:44.48 | SaneSmith | ok |
| 22:45.14 | Drakeson | how can I find out which video driver my xserver is using? |
| 22:45.26 | streuner__ | log |
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| 22:45.55 | valdyn | xdpyinfo too probavly |
| 22:46.08 | Drakeson | valdyn: nah, tried that |
| 22:46.39 | valdyn | Drakeson: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:47.03 | devurandom | abrotman: remove gnome-desktop-environment also cleans up a lot. |
| 22:47.13 | abrotman | okay |
| 22:49.02 | Drakeson | valdyn: OK, I'll read that too (have to reboot to the live cd again ...). Are there other tools like xdpyinfo that print out these things? |
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| 22:49.23 | zsakr | which deb package does dig belong to ? |
| 22:49.30 | devurandom | Thanks everyone, I'll try this a little bit further. aptitude-why is also helpful. :) |
| 22:49.50 | streuner__ | zsakr: /msg dpkg search |
| 22:49.52 | xiq | where can i get compiz 0.8? the repo only has 0.7.6 |
| 22:50.02 | Drakeson | zsakr: install apt-file, then do sudo apt-file update, and then use apt-file search dig to figure that out |
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| 22:50.21 | amphi | xiq: releases.compiz-fusion.org (source) |
| 22:50.26 | xiq | =( |
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| 22:50.55 | xiq | cant i just steal binarys from ubuntu? |
| 22:51.05 | streuner__ | no |
| 22:51.11 | zsakr | <dpkg> Debian Package Listing of 'dig' (15 of 28): aprsdigi ;; digikam ;; digikam-dbg ;; digikam-doc ;; digitemp ;; digitools ;; engauge-digitizer ;; engauge-digitizer-doc ;; fldigi ;; happydigger ;; htdig ;; htdig-doc ;; libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl ;; libcommons-digester-java ;; libcommons-digester-java-doc. |
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| 22:51.17 | zsakr | which one is it that I want? |
| 22:51.20 | zsakr | I want the dig |
| 22:51.21 | Drakeson | zsakr: in this case, dnsutils |
| 22:51.27 | streuner__ | !bobbitt |
| 22:51.27 | bzed | xiq: what is in ubuntu that is not in debian? |
| 22:51.27 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorena_Bobbitt]? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody (...sarge, etch), you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge, Etch, and any other debian system, "debian based distro", or the fire that is <rpm>, <alien>, etc. |
| 22:51.47 | xiq | bzed: emerald window manager / decorator |
| 22:51.56 | xiq | (compiz-emerald) |
| 22:52.02 | amphi | xiq: probably not; I used to build compiz from git, it's not particularly difficult; you have to build and install some of the components in the correct order |
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| 22:52.31 | bzed | xiq: just give kde4 a try :) |
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| 22:52.39 | xiq | NO >=( |
| 22:53.01 | xiq | i installed it and it went crazy like some turtle from space |
| 22:53.06 | amphi | haha |
| 22:53.14 | streuner__ | Dont recommend people to use unstable here |
| 22:53.18 | bzed | xiq: you did something wrong :) |
| 22:53.20 | xiq | it was so unlogical i wanted to jump out of the winodw >=( |
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| 22:53.41 | amphi | xiq: you want logical? use xmonad ;) |
| 22:53.41 | xiq | yes, probably... |
| 22:53.45 | xiq | oO |
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| 22:53.59 | bzed | xiq: or use awesome |
| 22:54.06 | xiq | er... later... |
| 22:54.17 | xiq | well i just want to use emerald but it disapeared |
| 22:54.31 | simonrvn | xiq: hold |
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| 22:54.55 | streuner | hm |
| 22:55.05 | xiq | wait - i got it, it was named compiz |
| 22:55.07 | kunal | hello guys |
| 22:55.15 | kunal | anyone here free? |
| 22:55.19 | xiq | ? |
| 22:55.26 | streuner | heh |
| 22:55.28 | simonrvn | oh never mind. i think it's in sid or experimental... but i do have this: |
| 22:55.30 | simonrvn | deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/osrdebian/ unstable compiz-fusion-git |
| 22:55.30 | simonrvn | deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/ debian-unstable beryl-svn |
| 22:55.44 | abrotman | wtf |
| 22:55.46 | streuner | omg |
| 22:55.53 | xiq | sid? i heard, whats sid |
| 22:55.58 | xiq | its in the news, everywhere |
| 22:55.58 | ballessay | hey guys whats going on with debian testing, tried to install it from netinst-iso in a vm. worked, but dns seems to be a problem. |
| 22:56.08 | streuner | simonrvn: do you think its helpful to use unofficial mirrors? |
| 22:56.20 | streuner | slap yourself :-) |
| 22:56.50 | ballessay | had the same here after upgrading from lenny to testing on my "real" linux-pc |
| 22:57.29 | amphi | that's shame's repo IIRC, and no longer maintained as far as I know |
| 22:57.48 | streuner | yeah, that too |
| 22:57.56 | xiq | he said "r.i.p." on the website |
| 22:58.43 | simonrvn | fuck it then |
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| 22:58.56 | simonrvn | abrotman: i can handle it, i'm a big boy. |
| 22:58.56 | gueux | hi |
| 22:59.01 | abrotman | simonrvn: ? |
| 22:59.10 | abrotman | simonrvn: i meant the beryl part .. not the compiz part |
| 22:59.27 | xiq | help i'm confused! |
| 22:59.28 | simonrvn | abrotman: s/abrotman/streuner/ |
| 22:59.36 | simonrvn | mm |
| 22:59.38 | xiq | emerald isnt what i had once |
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| 23:00.44 | gueux | I'm trying to use postfix with tls to send my mail with gmail. I've got "status=deferred (Server certificate not verified)" for each message I try to send... do you know if I have to download a certificate or do something? |
| 23:01.01 | xiq | the problem is, i have no decoration |
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| 23:03.00 | simonrvn | so run the gtk decorator |
| 23:03.09 | adb | xiq: i start compiz in a terminal in gnome . seen Starting gtk-window-decorator http://paste.debian.net/33953/ ; that's all |
| 23:03.14 | \amethyst | man dup2 |
| 23:03.16 | \amethyst | doh |
| 23:03.39 | xiq | abd: gwd cant undecorate he says |
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| 23:04.55 | xiq | compiz cant be run using vesa or vga drivers... ?! |
| 23:05.02 | xiq | i thought i use xorg |
| 23:05.09 | xiq | wait i press f1 |
| 23:05.15 | stinger | xorg is not a drover |
| 23:05.26 | stinger | *driver |
| 23:05.43 | xiq | i know |
| 23:05.47 | xiq | its server of x |
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| 23:07.53 | xiq | still no decoration when i choose compiz instead of metacity |
| 23:08.06 | ranamalo | Does any know how to force a service to run as IPv4 in inetd.conf? |
| 23:08.17 | Drakeson | is there an equivalent of lsmod for xserver? |
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| 23:09.28 | stinger | http://socialmediaclassroom.com/ |
| 23:10.26 | simonrvn | xiq: you need 3d enabled and running for your video card to do this.... |
| 23:10.30 | adb | xiq: open a terminal in X , and tape "compiz" |
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| 23:10.45 | xiq | wait i think.. i have no drivers >_> |
| 23:10.55 | adb | haha |
| 23:11.17 | simonrvn | and have opengl working too... |
| 23:11.27 | simonrvn | *facepalm* |
| 23:11.29 | xiq | on xubuntu i pressed on propilopy drivers... debian is confusing xD |
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| 23:12.01 | simonrvn | ubuntu handholds you, debian doesn't. different philsophy. |
| 23:12.09 | SARI | HERKESE iyi geceler |
| 23:12.10 | simonrvn | los* |
| 23:12.22 | SARI | türkçe bilen var mı ? |
| 23:12.25 | xiq | yes :) debian even is against firefox! |
| 23:12.37 | simonrvn | !tr |
| 23:12.37 | dpkg | it has been said that tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 23:13.34 | xiq | i heard debian is the last remaining big, free community distro? |
| 23:13.45 | simonrvn | xiq: you get to learn and know a unix derivative much more closely, IME, and is of more benefit doing so, IMO. |
| 23:13.47 | xiq | like.. no company |
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| 23:14.24 | simonrvn | debian has pretty much always been alone in that regard, AFAIK. |
| 23:14.39 | xiq | and iceweasel, i even download it for my friends that have windows :) i like the weasel... |
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| 23:15.06 | xiq | but theres something that annoys me |
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| 23:15.16 | KineticBug | How utterly slow it is? |
| 23:15.33 | xiq | i cant find debian iconsets and window decoratio ^_^ |
| 23:15.39 | simonrvn | abrotman, streuner: i've just been lazy cleaning up sources.list, that or forgetful. usually forgetful. |
| 23:15.52 | xiq | oh its fast, i connect in 0,1s to the chat !! |
| 23:15.56 | simonrvn | xiq: you're looking in the wrong place. |
| 23:16.09 | simonrvn | KineticBug: HAND, troll. |
| 23:16.37 | KineticBug | HAND? |
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| 23:17.07 | xiq | well, debian is very good 64bit minja :) |
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| 23:17.33 | simonrvn | i wouldn't know =) |
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| 23:18.09 | xiq | like, kubuntu windows and opensolaris make my computer kinda scream, and there is no minimal kubuntu install |
| 23:18.27 | xiq | on debian i can just install the ram image and kernel, thats what i want |
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| 23:19.21 | simonrvn | that's one of the nice parts, you can tweak your install if needed, or be bare bones, and leave it there. |
| 23:19.29 | xiq | :) |
| 23:20.25 | xiq | plus, the logo is superb! i dont like the ubuntu windows and opensolaris logos... but if gentoo was a frog, i'd install him too :) |
| 23:20.38 | simonrvn | heh |
| 23:21.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | i like the opensuse logo |
| 23:21.15 | xiq | yes! |
| 23:21.22 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | a soothing one |
| 23:21.25 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | and the red hat :P |
| 23:24.09 | pleed | I accidently made mkfs.ext3 on a device i didnt want to. Is there a way to recover the real ext3 system by looking for alle the files and rebuilding the table? |
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| 23:32.44 | jpinx-eeepc | Anyone know what this implies? ** (linphone:19316): WARNING **: Invalid source ! not yet implemented |
| 23:33.06 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: The only thing with v4l2 in it's name is libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l2 |
| 23:34.47 | jpinx-eeepc | there's no mention of anything v4l-ish in the dependencies for linphone - odd |
| 23:36.05 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: No, and it probably isn't needed for much else than.. than for that camera and others. Try with it, if you can choose v4l2 in linphone. |
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| 23:36.57 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: (According to screenshots you can.) |
| 23:37.34 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: http://www.linphone.org/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/linphone_3_1_jpeg/1100-1-fre-FR/linphone_3_1_jpeg.jpg |
| 23:37.39 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: it lists codecs as speex 16000, speex 8000, PCMU 8000, GSM 8000, and PCMA 8000 |
| 23:37.47 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: That's audio. |
| 23:38.08 | jpinx-eeepc | bangs his head on teh screen |
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| 23:39.33 | jpinx-eeepc | ok - the Video ones are theora, H263-1998, MP4V-ES and x-snow |
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| 23:40.11 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: That's not your problem, it can't use your camera at all with v4l (1). |
| 23:40.24 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: Check the screenshot please. |
| 23:40.30 | Deeta | Is there a way to have all -dev packages installed and removed automatically when i install its non "-dev" counterpart? |
| 23:40.36 | Greyscale | Right, so I have a debian embedded device. Its ignoring my USB keyboard. I don't have a null modem. I can however, modify the rootfs jffs2 image before reimaging the device. How can I get some access to the system? |
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| 23:41.15 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: dunno where you got those screenshots, but it's not what I'm getting from the package |
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| 23:41.19 | Greyscale | also, it doesn't seem to come up on my network |
| 23:41.43 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: The upstream, if it's the same thing. |
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| 23:42.56 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: I believe that linphone is not "seeing" my camera at all - therefor it's not appearing in the config windows |
| 23:43.41 | jpinx-eeepc | where the screenshot shows a multimedia tab - I only get a sound tab |
| 23:43.50 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: I believe you are correct. Did you try installing the library I pointed at above? |
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| 23:44.05 | HellMind | Why I got so many rtc0 ? http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2302/localhostlocaldomainirq.png |
| 23:44.12 | jpinx-eeepc | scrolls back |
| 23:44.12 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: (according to ubuntu forum posts, several, it hinted at that) |
| 23:45.21 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: - this one - libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l2 ? |
| 23:45.26 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: Yes. |
| 23:45.35 | jpinx-eeepc | k - hang on |
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| 23:49.30 | HellMind | Why I got so many rtc0 ? http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2302/localhostlocaldomainirq.png |
| 23:50.09 | stdisease | HellMind, lol we heard you the first time |
| 23:50.50 | HellMind | You sure?, cuz I didn't see any reply ;| |
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| 23:51.19 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: hmm - nothing happened yet - I might have to do a windows fix and reboot ;) |
| 23:52.05 | jpinx-eeepc | restarts linphone again |
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| 23:53.48 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy: still not getting multimedia - only sound in the config window |
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| 23:54.12 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: Yes, or reload whatever module that handles it. But yes, this once.. I'll agree to a reboot.. |
| 23:54.42 | jpinx-eeepc | hates reboots |
| 23:54.52 | jpinx-eeepc | how to reload the module beardy ? |
| 23:54.56 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: Check for the v4l module first. |
| 23:55.26 | jpinx-eeepc | where do I check for that beardy ? |
| 23:55.31 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: Since I've never used it I don't know what it's called, but, Video 4 Linux is a kernel module, aswell as having supporting libs.. then. |
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| 23:55.38 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: lsmod | less, and look |
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| 23:56.28 | jpinx-eeepc | v4l1_compat 12260 2 uvcvideo,videodev |
| 23:57.27 | jpinx-eeepc | beardy ^^ so it's there |
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| 23:59.40 | beardy | jpinx-eeepc: Yep. |
| 23:59.51 | jpinx-eeepc | waits for stuff to finishloading before rebooting |
