| 00:00.10 | dondelelcaro | enouf: there's a memory leak somewhere in the blootbot code |
| 00:00.33 | loafers | Why was only debian forced to rebrand firefox? |
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| 00:00.58 | enouf | dondelelcaro: ugh!.. since when? i mean has it always been there, or has it been ... er added due to revisions/tweaking, etc? ;-) |
| 00:01.00 | Eulex | loafers, ask mozilla. |
| 00:01.08 | jetscreamer | speaking of, how do you get the bot to give up more? like if it returns 15 out of 45 possible responses, how do you get the rest? |
| 00:01.09 | dondelelcaro | enouf: it's always been there |
| 00:01.12 | enouf | loafers: /msg dpkg why iceweasel |
| 00:01.16 | dondelelcaro | enouf: normally it's not a huge idea |
| 00:01.27 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: you can ask it again; it returns a set at random |
| 00:01.28 | loafers | enouf, ok thanks |
| 00:01.29 | enouf | loafers: then .. once you install iceweasel, read all the stuff it tells you |
| 00:01.31 | dondelelcaro | s/idea/deal/ |
| 00:01.33 | enouf | dondelelcaro: i see |
| 00:01.53 | jetscreamer | dondelelcaro: i tried that (as seen in the directions) but it seems to give back the same ones mostly |
| 00:01.58 | enouf | dondelelcaro: sure .. usually, dpkg is spot on indeed |
| 00:02.28 | jetscreamer | well consider that my feature request :) |
| 00:02.40 | jetscreamer | holds breath |
| 00:02.41 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: dpkg.vireo.nl should return them all; feel free to write patches for it |
| 00:02.43 | enouf | jetscreamer: i've also had that issue .. i think maybe if you ask at his site/database, you can see all the returns from the query |
| 00:02.52 | enouf | bingo |
| 00:02.53 | dondelelcaro | basically doesn't have time to develop dpkg much |
| 00:03.05 | dondelelcaro | !your factoids |
| 00:03.05 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 00:03.12 | dondelelcaro | s/nl/org/ |
| 00:03.30 | jetscreamer | you want me to hold my breath till I write a patch for it? omfg you hate me you want me to die!!! :) |
| 00:03.47 | jetscreamer | (that was yajj, yet another jetjoke) |
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| 00:05.10 | enouf | the url seems broken dondelelcaro .. er, actually http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php works; but http://dpkg.vireo.org redirects to http://dpkg.vireo.org/http:search.php and 404s |
| 00:05.48 | jetscreamer | hmmm dondelelcaro firefox (yes windows sorry) want to save search.php |
| 00:05.54 | jetscreamer | wants |
| 00:06.49 | jetscreamer | when i submit the query |
| 00:07.02 | jetscreamer | aka click the button |
| 00:07.11 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 00:07.16 | jetscreamer | looks up |
| 00:07.33 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 00:08.01 | doubletwist | so if I add a scsi disk and scan the bus using " echo - - - > /sys/class/scsi_host/hostX/scan" what would make it recognize the device as a generic scsi device instead of a disk |
| 00:08.49 | doubletwist | sorry it's a SAS disk, not a scsi disk |
| 00:08.56 | doubletwist | But the Q remains |
| 00:09.00 | dondelelcaro | enouf: that's actually not my machine, so I can't fix that |
| 00:09.28 | dondelelcaro | stew: I think dpkg.viro.org is you, right? see http://dpkg.vireo.org redirecting to http://dpkg.vireo.org/http:search.php |
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| 00:11.54 | pipeline | dondelelcaro: nothing, you're mis-interpreting what is happening |
| 00:11.58 | pipeline | doubletwist: rather |
| 00:11.58 | enouf | dondelelcaro: IIRC, you're correct, it's stew |
| 00:12.18 | pipeline | doubletwist: what you're seeing is a device file for issuing commands directly to the controller or something, not a disk. |
| 00:12.25 | doubletwist | pipeline: how am I misinterpriting it? "scsi 0:1:7:0: Attached scsi generic sg8 type 0 |
| 00:12.52 | enouf | dondelelcaro: either way; dpkgbot is an invaluable asset to us .. same for judd and all the others, so thanks to stew, yourself et al, we're all indebted - and i'll live with the glitches |
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| 00:13.25 | doubletwist | pipeline: And no /dev/sdX devices are created with which to access/partition the disk |
| 00:13.33 | enouf | doubletwist: the - - - would need to be quoted, IINM |
| 00:13.45 | pipeline | doubletwist: which just means that shit isn't working |
| 00:13.48 | doubletwist | enouf: yes it was quoted when I ran it. |
| 00:13.51 | dondelelcaro | enouf: thanks |
| 00:13.53 | enouf | doubletwist: but there are scripts to handle it |
| 00:13.56 | beardy | Yeah, it's stews. |
| 00:14.20 | enouf | scsitools has one .. there's another, more recent one IINM |
| 00:17.24 | enouf | doubletwist: also check if /proc/scsi/scsi is still around and has any useful info ... but generic scsi device to me would mean your modules.dep is a bit screwy |
| 00:18.05 | doubletwist | enouf: /proc/scsi/scsi lists the device at the right Host:channel:ID:LUN |
| 00:18.07 | internat | god i hate trying to keep an mp3 collection organized :( |
| 00:18.21 | enouf | doubletwist: are you using a Debian kernel? which release/versions ? scsi_mod and friends should handle it, iirc, maybe some libata magic as well |
| 00:18.37 | beardy | internat: It's not forced. :) |
| 00:18.44 | enouf | gah .. libata is more ahci related, whoops |
| 00:19.09 | enouf | would rather deal with randomness and entropy ;-) |
| 00:19.09 | internat | i know but still |
| 00:19.44 | Winkie | internat: i hate it so much i'm working on a project to help me |
| 00:20.32 | doubletwist | enouf: It's not actually debian. I was hoping for more generic assistance. |
| 00:20.51 | doubletwist | Since nobody has responded at all in #rhel [it's actually Oracle Enterprise Linux]. [shudder] |
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| 00:21.18 | doubletwist | Trust me, if it were my choice, it would be running Debian [or Solaris] |
| 00:21.35 | Winkie | doubletwist: what exactly is your problem? |
| 00:21.37 | MasterYoda | what does it mean "file access time" for linux kernel? and does "creation time == modify time" and what's the difference? |
| 00:21.53 | internat | lol |
| 00:21.56 | meyou | creation is when it's created |
| 00:22.00 | meyou | modified is when it's modified |
| 00:22.05 | doubletwist | Winkie: I've added a hot-swap SAS disk. I've scanned the SAS bus and it sees the disk, but it loads it as a generic scsi device instead of a disk. |
| 00:22.06 | meyou | complicated i know |
| 00:22.18 | at0m|c | MasterYoda: when it's last been accessed/opened |
| 00:22.39 | Winkie | doubletwist: ooh that's an interesting one, that would usually point to some sort of interface problem. have you had this working before on the same machine? |
| 00:23.00 | MasterYoda | oh, my question generated good question for google :)) thanx! |
| 00:23.32 | doubletwist | Aw geez, I think I just realized what the problem is |
| 00:23.42 | zamba | i need a emulator for dos (yeah, ms-dos) for linux/debian.. does one such exist+ |
| 00:23.43 | doubletwist | Winkie: you tweaked my memory |
| 00:23.44 | enouf | doubletwist: well .. the info we've given is about all we can do .. and try ##linux perhaps |
| 00:23.52 | Winkie | doubletwist: go on... :) |
| 00:24.05 | Winkie | zamba: would WINE and cmd do what you want? i have no idea |
| 00:24.07 | enouf | zamba: i think i recall one .. search pdo |
| 00:24.13 | enouf | !dosemu |
| 00:24.14 | dpkg | hmm... dosemu is a DOS emulator for Linux. If you X, graphical DOS programs will be much easier to run than if you set up dosemu to do graphics at the console. Dosemu is kind of buggy and doesn't play games well |
| 00:24.21 | zamba | enouf: oh.. i found dosbox |
| 00:24.27 | enouf | and that one as well |
| 00:24.34 | Winkie | oh yeah i forgot about dosbox |
| 00:24.52 | doubletwist | I forgot that the initial 4 disks that are in that box are on a HW raid card. duh, linux won't recognize the disk until I reboot into the RAID bios and configure it. :( |
| 00:25.03 | doubletwist | well, a quasi-hw raid card anyway |
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| 00:25.16 | enouf | ugh .. |
| 00:25.18 | Polarina | How would I go about getting python 3 installed? |
| 00:25.30 | doubletwist | And that's why we usually don't use raid cards... :( |
| 00:25.41 | Winkie | doubletwist: ah yeah that could be an issue, i've seen devices presented as a generic sg before without blocks |
| 00:25.50 | Winkie | doubletwist: yeah MDADM seems to work pretty well for me |
| 00:26.47 | jelly-home | Polarina: you'd, um, install it from source into a separate directory |
| 00:26.55 | Winkie | it's in experimental |
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| 00:27.00 | Polarina | jelly-home: Nothing in the repository? |
| 00:27.03 | Winkie | apparently |
| 00:27.11 | jelly-home | Winkie: that's 3.1 alpha |
| 00:27.23 | Winkie | jelly-home: ah, i know nothing of python |
| 00:27.24 | jelly-home | Polarina: nope |
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| 00:27.34 | jelly-home | Winkie: don't answer then |
| 00:27.45 | Polarina | jelly-home: :( |
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| 00:31.05 | ower | hi all/ where does saving pakages downloaded by apt-get source? |
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| 00:32.08 | jelly-home | ower: current directory |
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| 00:32.34 | jelly-home | ower: current directory |
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| 00:32.54 | dkr | ower: /usr/src |
| 00:33.19 | quentusrex | anyone here familiar with git? I'm always running 'git pull origin master:refs/heads/master' for the same repo I have locally. How do I set that to the default so that I can just do a git pull ??? |
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| 00:33.41 | dkr | oh I'm thinking of when I aptitude installed linux-source :) |
| 00:34.43 | wastrel | alias gpo="git pull origin master:ref/heads/master" |
| 00:34.46 | wastrel | one way to do it |
| 00:34.57 | wastrel | not gitly but iono from git |
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| 00:35.26 | ower | i first looked to /usr/src.. but didnt found there// |
| 00:35.45 | LLIypuk | hi folks. does anybody know, why it is impossible to change charset via /etc/init.d/console-cyrillic start in console? |
| 00:35.53 | ower | im running ubuntu |
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| 00:36.34 | Wyzard | ower: then #ubuntu is the place to ask, but I don't think the answer to your question is any different in this case |
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| 00:37.30 | wastrel | the answer is /var/cache/apt/archives/ and you will find that at the bottom of man apt-get in the FILES section |
| 00:37.57 | Wyzard | wastrel: He asked about "apt-get source", not apt-get downloading .deb files |
| 00:38.01 | Eulex | no, _current directory_ |
| 00:38.03 | wastrel | ah |
| 00:38.06 | enouf | indeed |
| 00:38.14 | enouf | CWD/PWD |
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| 00:38.42 | enouf | is what i've experienced .. especially if i'm root, they end up in /root/ - IIRC |
| 00:38.51 | enouf | will bbl |
| 00:38.57 | jpinx-eeepc | valdyn: told me about firefox --no-remote, but not every time I start firefox it takes that argument and I can't find the opposite. Any pointers please? |
| 00:39.05 | wastrel | yes current directory. also in the apt-get manpage |
| 00:39.08 | ower | in archives there are only debs but not sources.. |
| 00:39.18 | doubletwist | Anyone here know of a way to send an alt-SysRQ magic key sequence over either the Sun ILOM redirect console or via the ssh ilom console? |
| 00:39.29 | ower | oh current) |
| 00:40.04 | Eulex | !sysrqd |
| 00:40.20 | Eulex | doubletwist, http://julien.danjou.info/sysrqd/ ? |
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| 00:41.21 | doubletwist | Eulex: don't think that's gonna work for us. But thanks |
| 00:41.27 | Eulex | dpkg: sysrqd is a small daemon to send sysrq commands over the network, http://julien.danjou.info/sysrqd/ |
| 00:41.28 | dpkg | Eulex: okay |
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| 00:43.47 | Eulex | doubletwist, no idea what that ILOM stuff is, but at least you'd be able to send sysrq sequences through the network with it |
| 00:44.12 | doubletwist | Eulex: Unfortunately, by the time we're at point of needing to use it, the system is totally unresponsive to network traffic. |
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| 00:44.39 | Eulex | doubletwist, ah |
| 00:44.53 | jelly-home | doubletwist: does it connect to a (virtual) serial console, or to the real console? If it's serial, you can send serial BREAK |
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| 00:45.44 | jelly-home | doubletwist: linux interprets break on serial as sysrq |
| 00:46.17 | loafers | Trying to zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb and I keep on getting Permission Denied, how do I fix this? |
| 00:46.37 | jelly-home | loafers: be root? |
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| 00:46.56 | Theoden | Could someone please kick Lenny_Theo ? Thx. |
| 00:47.01 | Eulex | loafers, are you attempting to use sudo by prefixing that command with "sudo"? |
| 00:47.02 | loafers | jelly-home, I tried sudo and it wouldn't work. (I'm on ubuntu) |
| 00:47.15 | jelly-home | loafers: sudo sh -c 'zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb' |
| 00:47.24 | Eulex | loafers, firstly: #ubuntu. secondly: sudo won't affect the redirection if you do that. |
| 00:47.38 | adb | !ops Lenny_Theo spam Theoden |
| 00:47.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: adb complains about: Lenny_Theo spam Theoden |
| 00:47.49 | jelly-home | Eulex: he's making a debian usb install using an ubuntu livecd |
| 00:48.11 | Eulex | loafers, that's because it is your _shell_ is what is opening files to redirect to and from |
| 00:48.13 | jelly-home | because... y'know, ubuntu has decent livecds |
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| 00:48.16 | Eulex | jelly-home, oh |
| 00:48.32 | loafers | jelly-home, thanks its working |
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| 00:49.14 | jelly-home | srsly people, "I'm on ubuntu" isn't always the cue to repeat "go to that other channel" |
| 00:49.15 | Eulex | loafers, the reason jelly-home's solution works is that it starts a new shell as root and then runs the command. |
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| 00:49.54 | loafers | Eulex, Ah okay thanks was about to ask too :) |
| 00:50.56 | Theoden | Could someone please kick Lenny_Theo - it's a ghost - I'm not there. :) |
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| 00:51.01 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | what are the steps you take to ensure you are not providing support to an u*u guy here :P |
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| 00:51.36 | Eulex | Theoden, will solve itself with time... |
| 00:51.40 | Eulex | meh |
| 00:51.42 | dkr | sh4d3sl4y3r_: pure suspicion. :) |
| 00:51.48 | jelly-home | sh4d3sl4y3r_: being able to track more than a single line of context |
| 00:51.59 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
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| 00:52.36 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | but i agree to the fact u*u provides decent live cds :P |
| 00:53.00 | Polarina | How do I add another font to the drop-down list in OpenOffice.org? I want to add Monospace. |
| 00:53.01 | jetscreamer | repeats the ubuntu kernel panic statement, after it installed |
| 00:53.01 | dondelelcaro | whatever it does or doesn't do isn't on topic here |
| 00:53.12 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | dondelelcaro |
| 00:53.14 | jetscreamer | it kp's |
| 00:53.15 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | if you are old here |
| 00:53.17 | jetscreamer | nuffsed |
| 00:53.17 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | you must know this |
| 00:53.23 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | #offtopic |
| 00:53.27 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !offtopic |
| 00:53.28 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. Please join #debian-offtopic |
| 00:53.28 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | sory |
| 00:53.31 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | it says |
| 00:53.36 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | when the channel is not "BUSY" |
| 00:53.37 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | its ok |
| 00:54.02 | dkr | sh4d3sl4y3r_: there seems to be something wrong with your enter key. it keeps getting activate din the middle of your sentences. :) |
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| 00:54.25 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | nothing wrong with the enter key, wrong with what presses it |
| 00:54.35 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :P |
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| 00:58.13 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | Polarina : try installing msttcorefonts |
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| 00:58.57 | Polarina | sh4d3sl4y3r_: I do not want these fonts. |
| 00:59.08 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hmm |
| 00:59.14 | MasterOfDisaster | Hi, suddenly my hsdpa modem stopped showing up in network-manager - it seems to be detected correctly though |
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| 01:00.01 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | brb |
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| 01:00.16 | MasterOfDisaster | the /dev/ttyHS* devices exist, my user is member of netdev and dialout |
| 01:01.06 | MasterOfDisaster | any ideas? |
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| 01:20.28 | nergoza | each time i try to compile any program i get this |
| 01:20.33 | nergoza | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 01:20.37 | nergoza | i have gcc and cc insatlled |
| 01:20.59 | lostson | nergoza: apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:21.04 | cast | i'd try to compile hello_world.c and see if it works personally |
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| 01:25.59 | nergoza | thanks alot lostson now it's OK |
| 01:26.14 | lostson | nergoza: your welcome |
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| 01:29.00 | jetscreamer | yay lenny dvd done |
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| 01:37.55 | SuperMiguel | any one know an easy way to create a background when using an laptop screen and a external monitor so it doesnt look ugly and cut??? |
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| 01:46.51 | gewt | . |
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| 01:56.13 | enouf | SuperMiguel: xrandr? |
| 01:56.21 | enouf | SuperMiguel: /msg dpkg dual monitors |
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| 01:56.48 | SuperMiguel | enouf, what? |
| 01:56.54 | enouf | who? |
| 01:57.17 | SuperMiguel | enouf, u said xrandr? /msg dpkg dual monitor> |
| 01:57.18 | SuperMiguel | ? |
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| 01:59.06 | SuperMiguel | enouf, what u mean? |
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| 02:02.55 | eurythmia | does anyone here have experience with writing/debugging make files? I'm trying to figure out what is going into a variable. |
| 02:03.03 | enouf | !+tell SuperMiguel -about dual monitors |
| 02:03.03 | dpkg | told SuperMiguel about dual monitors. |
| 02:03.12 | enouf | !+tell SuperMiguel -about msgthebot |
| 02:03.13 | dpkg | told SuperMiguel about msgthebot. |
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| 02:07.19 | SuperMiguel | any one knows how long vmware page has been down? |
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| 02:10.51 | enouf | 42 |
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| 02:11.18 | ULFfuntu | 44 today |
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| 02:13.59 | wastrel | happy birthday |
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| 02:14.42 | ULFfuntu | thx |
| 02:14.58 | smacnay | where would the gstreamer plugin containing "audio/x-gst-fourcc-ms decoder" be? |
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| 02:18.05 | SuperMiguel | any idea how long has http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ been down?? |
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| 02:23.42 | enouf | SuperMiguel: why are you asking in here? ask #vmware or something |
| 02:25.02 | SuperMiguel | enouf, u guys may know :) |
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| 02:26.18 | enouf | !they don't know |
| 02:26.18 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 02:27.19 | ULFfuntu | !love SuperMiguel |
| 02:27.19 | dpkg | makes love to SuperMiguel, caressing SuperMiguel's hair, whispering sweet nothings in SuperMiguel's ear... |
| 02:27.32 | SuperMiguel | lol |
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| 02:40.45 | wm4 | I'm looking for a simple backup utility, that basically copies files from my filesystem into a backup directory, based on a list of filenames (which should be able to contain patterns to include and exclude files/directories) |
| 02:41.03 | jamon | wm4: rsnapshot is handy for that |
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| 02:43.23 | cast | tar can do that, too, rdiff-backup is neat |
| 02:44.39 | wm4 | jamon: it appears rsnapshot passes it exclude/include patterns directly to rsync; after trying to make rsync patterns do what I want I started to hate them |
| 02:45.35 | cast | make your own list of files and pass it to whichever application in question |
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| 02:46.37 | jamon | yeah can't help there, but it could be i just back everything up instead of selectively picking files/directories |
| 02:46.58 | wm4 | cast: and how to make this list? |
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| 02:47.44 | jamon | wm4: well you know what you want and don't want backed up, so make a list |
| 02:47.47 | cast | find, grep, however you like |
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| 02:48.35 | wm4 | if I'd like to do this myself, then I wouldn't ask for a backup utility |
| 02:48.50 | cast | sighs |
| 02:49.04 | wm4 | cast: do I sound lazy? |
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| 02:50.59 | jamon | wm4: what you have described is something that is pretty much impossible, no utility can read your mind, they all take work up front to setup, in your case, it sounds like building the list of files/directories is that work |
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| 02:52.50 | wm4 | jamon: no... a list of include/excludes (plus using globbing and being able to exclude included files again) is enough... anyway, I'm looking into rdiff-backup right now |
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| 02:58.53 | wm4 | I gave up and moved my files around so that rsync's pattern matching doesn't cause problems anymore |
| 02:58.58 | wm4 | I hate myself now |
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| 03:18.44 | Thneed | how does one extract a tar.bz2? bunzip2 filename.tar.bz2? |
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| 03:19.27 | module000 | Thneed: yep |
| 03:19.37 | module000 | then tar xvf filename.tar |
| 03:19.38 | cast | Thneed: man tar as examples, see -j particully |
| 03:19.49 | ULFfuntu | i just used the gnome extractor on one ... quick |
| 03:20.02 | Thneed | tar -xjf? |
| 03:20.27 | cast | you tell me Thneed you tell me :o |
| 03:20.47 | wastrel | tar jzvf |
| 03:20.52 | wastrel | er jxvf |
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| 03:21.40 | cast | v is handy so you notice if it overwrite your .bashrc |
| 03:21.50 | ULFfuntu | <rar |
| 03:21.58 | cast | rar is shit. |
| 03:22.00 | ULFfuntu | ha |
| 03:22.37 | ULFfuntu | every avi on the web |
| 03:22.52 | cast | proprietary formats are a PITA to deal with, and one can do all those things people use rar for without rar perfectly fine. |
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| 03:24.02 | cast | ULFfuntu: anything you can do with rar, i can do better without :) |
| 03:24.25 | wastrel | spell "arrears" |
| 03:25.29 | Thneed | cast: I am confused, first bunzip2, and then tar -xjvf? I canno bunzip2 the file |
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| 03:25.55 | wastrel | bunzip2 is unnecessary if you use j with tar |
| 03:26.13 | cast | j -> bunzip2 |
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| 03:45.12 | Thneed | http://pastebin.com/m7aeb43d9 |
| 03:45.46 | Thneed | cast: I think i am doing this wrong, I did it before to two other files a few days ago, but forgot the exact command |
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| 03:47.53 | cast | hmm, i'd redownload and try again [tar jxf alsa-utils-1.0.19.tar.bz2] |
| 03:50.22 | Thneed | cast: same error after download |
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| 03:51.19 | Tr0gd0r | my server has 5 ips lets call them ip1 ip2... Each is bound to its respective eth0:0 eth0:1.... How can I make outgoing connections default to ip2 instead of ip1? |
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| 03:51.58 | cast | Thneed: what does file alsa-utils-1.0.19.tar.bz2 say? |
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| 03:56.19 | jetscreamer | hey i installed ubuntu!!! ( it kernel panicked on the first boot) so i installed lenny instead and it worked just fine so far |
| 03:56.22 | jetscreamer | same machine |
| 03:57.02 | jetscreamer | not MY machine |
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| 03:58.18 | rhodescus | jetscreamer: so you install ubuntu or lenny? |
| 03:58.25 | jetscreamer | both |
| 03:58.52 | jetscreamer | after ubuntu borked out (dvd worked fine though) |
| 03:59.15 | jetscreamer | i did lenny |
| 04:00.33 | jetscreamer | wow... does the guy doing the kernel for debian do the ubuntu too? |
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| 04:01.41 | mosno | jetscreamer: not sure, but there's a number of people who contribute to both projects |
| 04:02.17 | jetscreamer | yeah that's why i ask |
| 04:02.22 | jetscreamer | s/ask/wonder/ |
| 04:02.55 | mosno | jetscreamer: i'd say they're each managed by a team. if you really want to know, check the packages |
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| 04:04.17 | wastrel | i'm sure there are substantial differences between the debian and ubuntu kernels as shipped |
| 04:06.12 | mosno | wastrel: they use different upstream versions for a start :-) |
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| 04:07.23 | Thneed | cast: it's a bunch of random characters all over the place |
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| 04:08.08 | Thneed | cast: I tried two other downloads: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/utils/alsa-utils-1.0.19.tar.bz2 of the same file and they all look messed up |
| 04:08.12 | cast | Thneed: file reports a bunch of random characters all over the place? |
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| 04:09.34 | Thneed | cast: |
| 04:09.45 | Thneed | cast: http://pastebin.com/m27040aaf |
| 04:10.19 | gaintsura | hey all, I'm running debian lenny, and I have an atheros ar242X wifi card, but I don't have any wireless. I've tried what I used to do in ubuntu, but that doesn't work, I can't get madwifi to properly install, and when I modprobe ath5k it says it did something, but it wont list any AP's or allow me to connect to any of them. please help =( I'm dying without my wireless |
| 04:10.29 | CrAzYWolF | sup quick question where is locate the file to add the link to dl the updates? |
| 04:10.42 | gaintsura | in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:10.44 | cast | file you linked to works fine with tar jtf alsa-utils-1.0.19.tar.bz2 |
| 04:10.47 | CrAzYWolF | thanks |
| 04:10.50 | gaintsura | np |
| 04:11.11 | cast | Thneed: you should always paste the command ran including the output. |
| 04:11.42 | Thneed | cast: http://pastebin.com/m4c9ec2b3 |
| 04:12.31 | cast | mmm. maybe something is fubar, what does md5sum alsa-utils-1.0.19.tar.bz2 report? |
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| 04:12.43 | cast | should be 5ff0379c707c1a29083233edc9ab4e06 |
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| 04:16.05 | gaintsura | kicks ath5k |
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| 04:18.06 | Thneed | cast: what is mdsum and where do I find it? |
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| 04:18.28 | cast | 'md5sum alsa-utils-1.0.19.tar.bz2' |
| 04:19.16 | Thneed | mine is different than what you posted, 31f70c608511df049095a8ca864dea5d |
| 04:22.03 | cast | then there's thei ssue. |
| 04:22.27 | Thneed | cast: ? |
| 04:22.30 | cast | so redownload, or if for some reason you can't get a nonfucked copy |
| 04:22.40 | cast | you can repair it with par2 |
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| 04:25.54 | Thneed | cast: okay, how do I delete the ones I already have? |
| 04:26.03 | cast | delete what. |
| 04:26.07 | cast | rm filename? |
| 04:27.32 | Thneed | thanks |
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| 04:32.22 | gaintsura_ | ok, well I'm able to list networks now, but I cannot connect to any of them.. |
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| 04:40.22 | enouf | wifi? |
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| 04:42.43 | Manoj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:47.37 | owen1_ | i added 'XTerm*termName: xterm-256color' to .Xresources and i run xrdb ~/.Xresources . i open new xterm and type 'tputs colors' and get 8. any ideas how to set 256 colors on xterm? |
| 04:48.15 | gewt | ... |
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| 04:48.26 | gewt | reading the package databse is taking like 5 years |
| 04:49.01 | enouf | Manoj: heh |
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| 04:49.56 | enouf | gewt: mv it .. then do shit .. HDD copying files, moving, sorting, rm'ing old shit, then mv it back - i usually cp it though |
| 04:50.08 | enouf | then rm the orig once i'm sure the cp is good |
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| 04:52.01 | gaintsura | has anyone gotten the atheros ar5007eg to work in lenny? I can't get crap or all to work, though I can finally see networks.. thats about it though |
| 04:53.15 | centHOGG | gaintsura: not at all :( is yours usb? |
| 04:53.42 | gaintsura | no |
| 04:53.47 | gaintsura | internal, laptop |
| 04:54.07 | centHOGG | yeah, this is my first usb nic and haven't messed with it much |
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| 04:58.27 | anoHito | i would like to use iptables to limit simultaneous connections on port 80, -j DROP or -j REJECT ,which one is better ? |
| 04:58.37 | anoHito | it seems there is ZZzzzz in #iptables. |
| 04:58.58 | gaintsura | depends on what you want to do |
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| 04:59.15 | gaintsura | do you want the user to know there is a limit or do you want it to be blindly going? |
| 04:59.31 | anoHito | hi gaintsura . |
| 04:59.44 | gaintsura | not quite, but almost |
| 04:59.46 | gaintsura | =) |
| 05:00.06 | anoHito | gaintsura, you are implying me that with iptables can do both of them ? |
| 05:00.11 | cast | DROP could be a PITA to users |
| 05:00.33 | anoHito | pita ? |
| 05:00.35 | gaintsura | yes it can to both |
| 05:00.37 | gaintsura | Pain in the ass |
| 05:00.37 | cast | !pita |
| 05:00.38 | dpkg | methinks pita is pain in the ass or whats usually for supper :) |
| 05:00.40 | gaintsura | sorry |
| 05:00.41 | gaintsura | lol |
| 05:00.43 | anoHito | lmao |
| 05:01.21 | anoHito | My goal is limit the network spiders,bots |
| 05:01.21 | gaintsura | drop will drop the packets when they hit the iptables rules without returning something to the users system telling them there is a problem or there is a limit, reject would allow you to tell the users system that there is a problem |
| 05:02.03 | anoHito | oh,then i would use DROP |
| 05:02.05 | gaintsura | no |
| 05:02.10 | gaintsura | would recommend reject |
| 05:02.15 | gaintsura | and use --reject-with |
| 05:02.23 | Tramp | there is no ICMP type for "currently unavailable due to weird limiting" - so what would you reject-with?? |
| 05:02.24 | anoHito | with tcp reset |
| 05:02.41 | gaintsura | Tramp: hm, not sure, let me look at the options |
| 05:02.50 | anoHito | gaintsura, iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --syn --dport 80 -m connlimit --connlimit-above 10 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset |
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| 05:03.49 | gewt | aww |
| 05:03.50 | gaintsura | I'd just reject-with icmp-proto-unreachable |
| 05:03.56 | gewt | mplayer wont render ascii |
| 05:04.08 | centHOGG | heh |
| 05:04.27 | anoHito | gaintsura, yeah i got it, for example accessing to a page there contains many little icons and they are all from the same server ,if so, with DROP that when they are matches the rule the last icons will not display at all,with reject however, they will be marked as x marks,right ? |
| 05:05.04 | gaintsura | that I'm not sure |
| 05:05.12 | gaintsura | you'd have to test |
| 05:05.40 | anoHito | gaintsura, well, my current PITA is the high load of the server,while very low CPU usages and RAM usage |
| 05:06.12 | gaintsura | that was redundant |
| 05:06.13 | anoHito | gaintsura, after i have banned some popular spiders,crawlers,this is going to done,but not yet,sometimes the load avg can be booming up to 10 at a time |
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| 05:06.36 | gaintsura | a server is meant to host many connections |
| 05:06.41 | anoHito | gaintsura, any suggest would you recommand me ? |
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| 05:07.18 | anoHito | i don't get it. |
| 05:07.37 | owen1_ | how to set 256 colors to xterm? |
| 05:07.40 | gaintsura | unless its under 700mhz and 256mb you can hold at least 1000 users/connections on a multitude of services, I don't understand why you are trying to block more than 10 connections from a host |
| 05:08.03 | centHOGG | gaintsura: interesting |
| 05:08.34 | anoHito | gaintsura, very low cpu usage, say less than 2%, very low ram allocations aka 1GB is free ,but very high mysql usages which takes a lot of ram , there are many mysql processes are states as locked |
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| 05:09.13 | gaintsura | anoHito: are you closing your mysql connections on your pages/applications? |
| 05:09.14 | anoHito | gaintsura, that 10 connections was an example . |
| 05:09.39 | gewt | oh |
| 05:09.44 | gewt | the file was incomplete |
| 05:09.50 | gewt | that explains why it was't playing |
| 05:09.54 | gaintsura | gj |
| 05:10.01 | anoHito | gaintsura, how do i check ? if that goes to the client side,i have no idea, they have rights to whatever programs they select,but i gotta do something in the server side to make things better. |
| 05:10.09 | Thneed | cast: I think the other downloaded copies caused a problem, because it works fine now |
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| 05:10.24 | gaintsura | anoHito: check your mysql connections |
| 05:10.47 | cast | nods |
| 05:10.53 | cast | suspected you had mixed up files somehow |
| 05:10.58 | anoHito | any instantly tips ? |
| 05:11.32 | gaintsura | anoHito: run 'SHOW PROCESSLIST' |
| 05:11.34 | gaintsura | in mysql |
| 05:12.07 | anoHito | gaintsura, i guess the actual problem is that mysql will not *release the *dead processes after a plenty of mysql connections,those can be from the spiders,bots. |
| 05:12.31 | gaintsura | they are usually from the pages that execute the mysql connections and statements |
| 05:12.55 | gaintsura | you should look into cleaning up your servers code and placing mysql_close(); after each query is processed |
| 05:14.05 | anoHito | gaintsura, first it gives me mysql has gone away,then i retype in that command,it gives me a form |
| 05:14.26 | gaintsura | wait.. you're using phpmyadmin arent you..? |
| 05:15.01 | anoHito | i logged in mysql via ssh to do that command. |
| 05:15.06 | gaintsura | ok |
| 05:15.09 | anoHito | i have phpmyadmin yes. |
| 05:15.13 | gaintsura | how many connections did it show? |
| 05:15.19 | gaintsura | blech @ phpmyadmin |
| 05:16.11 | anoHito | in the form, it only has 2 parts mostly. one is from root to do that SHOW PROCESSLIST |
| 05:16.23 | anoHito | the rest is from the client |
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| 05:16.48 | anoHito | so 1 row, sometimes 2 row |
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| 05:17.13 | gaintsura | how are your applications connection to the db? localhost:3306? |
| 05:17.19 | anoHito | the users comnmand says 'SLEEP' |
| 05:17.23 | anoHito | different users from there. |
| 05:17.34 | anoHito | localhost |
| 05:18.05 | anoHito | i have commended out SKIP-NETWORKING in my.cnf that to disable remote 3306 connectings. |
| 05:18.22 | joeyjones | has anyone else had an issue with detecting the installation media while installing from usb? |
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| 05:18.39 | gaintsura | I'd suggest looking into debugging your applications that use mysql before applying drastic measures to your iptables |
| 05:18.42 | anoHito | gaintsura, yeah,the clients have forums installed, in the forum configuration,they only use 'localhost' as the addr. to where to connect to mysql to. |
| 05:18.46 | joeyjones | when i tried repeatedly to install it booted fine, but couldn;t find the "cdrom" to mount |
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| 05:19.20 | anoHito | gaintsura, hmm bad sql querring maybe ? |
| 05:19.28 | gaintsura | anoHito: I'd recommend keeping an eye on http://astalavista.com/ then theres a lot of bugs in forum apps that can cause degraded performance |
| 05:19.38 | gaintsura | entirely possible |
| 05:19.46 | anoHito | I see. |
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| 05:20.12 | gaintsura | it can have hellish affects on the system if there is a large amount of queries processed per request and they aren't closed when they are done |
| 05:20.25 | LoboX | yo does irssi has another name in apt-get? |
| 05:20.29 | joeyjones | gaintsura: are you using persistent connections? |
| 05:20.34 | gaintsura | nope, just apt-get |
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| 05:20.48 | joeyjones | LoboX: check http://packages.debian.org |
| 05:20.55 | gaintsura | joeyjones: I don't think I, personally do, but anoHito, maybe |
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| 05:21.00 | anoHito | gaintsura, so can we just do it in mysql ? for example, force the connection limits from one user at a time maybe ? |
| 05:21.09 | gaintsura | hm |
| 05:21.15 | gaintsura | I'm not sure about that |
| 05:21.27 | anoHito | max_users_connections |
| 05:21.34 | joeyjones | are we talking php or what? |
| 05:21.39 | anoHito | joeyjones, huh ? i am not sure how to check |
| 05:21.47 | anoHito | yes php with mysql |
| 05:21.51 | gaintsura | anoHito: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/user-resources.html <- start there |
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| 05:22.20 | gaintsura | with that you should be able to specify X number of connections per user |
| 05:22.25 | gaintsura | and on a per user basis |
| 05:22.31 | gaintsura | with general settings |
| 05:22.40 | anoHito | mysql has too many processes after a big visitings from the amounts of bots,spiders,crawlers, those *dead mysql processes take a lot of ram and resources. |
| 05:23.03 | joeyjones | anoHito: you will screw yourself if you do that |
| 05:23.13 | gaintsura | then that I would I assume would be from bad queries, tell your clients to stop using bad forum apps |
| 05:23.23 | gaintsura | joeyjones: no he wont |
| 05:23.25 | joeyjones | you'd be better off setting the system vars to limit the number of processes |
| 05:23.40 | anoHito | The problem ,as gaintsura was just recommding me, should be the mysql itself,but not from the visitors,bots,spiders, that a server is meant to server everything,this sounds very reasonable. |
| 05:24.01 | enouf | gewt: libcaca or something? |
| 05:24.23 | joeyjones | gaintsura: the site likely uses one db user to connect so if he gets high load and overflows the number of connections it'll be bad |
| 05:24.24 | gewt | i got it... |
| 05:24.27 | gaintsura | it would slow down how much data would be going through, which is good for limiting how much data a spider can grab at once, however his problem is more related to bad mysql queries and applications, not in processes |
| 05:24.38 | gewt | it's just rendering the binary as funkeh characters, :P |
| 05:24.45 | gewt | nothing that resembles what ti should be |
| 05:24.47 | simonrvn | anoHito: if they're not dying, you have other issues you need to look at. |
| 05:24.52 | anoHito | joeyjones, it is a webhosting server |
| 05:24.53 | gaintsura | joeyjones: thats why there is limiting on how many simultaneous connections there can be |
| 05:25.02 | simonrvn | they should just exit normally once done. |
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| 05:25.21 | gaintsura | simonrvn: indeed, thats why I was recommending looking into the applications themselves, its definitely not a server problem |
| 05:25.52 | anoHito | simonrvn, hmmm then that is why i was considering the attackes,but after a hard work with contacting the hardware firewall tech support and trying,no luck. |
| 05:26.03 | simonrvn | using iptables or whatever you have in mind is only a band aid... and not very good one at that. |
| 05:26.05 | blackgraz | dclkgbnl;kngdgtdlkggggg3t3t333t3t35ttggdgdggggg |
| 05:26.05 | blackgraz | ' |
| 05:26.09 | moodhugs | hi is there a tutorial for compiling custom kernels that work? LOL i tried twice and neither boot. |
| 05:26.18 | gaintsura | moodhugs: try #kernel |
| 05:26.25 | joeyjones | anoHito: can you link me to your site? |
| 05:26.33 | anoHito | yes, but now they are not existing normally,very strange. |
| 05:26.44 | simonrvn | anoHito: attacks? um, try not letting random dumbfucks access your mysqld? |
| 05:26.48 | anoHito | joeyjones, which one ? this is a webhosting thing. |
| 05:26.55 | simonrvn | exiting, or existing? |
| 05:27.00 | anoHito | joeyjones, but i have provided the phpsysinfo page, wait a minute |
| 05:27.36 | joeyjones | the sysinfo won't be very useful, i mean the public pages you're concerned about attack on |
| 05:27.51 | anoHito | The server has 2 IP numbers, so here they are http://122.225.102.208/phpsysinfo/ http://60.12.106.208/phpsysinfo/ |
| 05:28.02 | anoHito | right now the load avg is okay |
| 05:28.07 | gaintsura | anoHito: its the appplications that are using mysql, not the server or its configurations, you can apply fixes to correct the problem, but the real problem is in telling people not to use shoddy applications and supply good ones for them |
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| 05:28.21 | anoHito | i have banned too many IPs from the known spiders |
| 05:28.47 | anoHito | before that, this load avg once even went up to 500, i have gotten the page snapped. |
| 05:28.57 | joeyjones | in a hosting enviroment you can do some things to make it not as bad |
| 05:29.27 | joeyjones | make sure you have php safe enabled, and set specific limitations on the mysql db |
| 05:29.28 | anoHito | joeyjones, i am not sure which pages from which websites are possibly the targets. |
| 05:29.30 | Ace2017_- | what happened to this package? its disappeared from the repos, like magic http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=libprotobuf2 |
| 05:29.31 | gaintsura | joeyjones: agreed, much of what we just talked about above, but its not the root of the problem anoHito |
| 05:29.57 | anoHito | one site on the server http://www.drtchina.com/ |
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| 05:30.35 | gaintsura | uhg, cms managed system |
| 05:30.47 | gaintsura | I hope you know a lot about security |
| 05:30.53 | gaintsura | both web and server |
| 05:31.00 | cast | gaintsura: content management system managed system? |
| 05:31.08 | gaintsura | shh |
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| 05:31.09 | gaintsura | =P |
| 05:31.31 | anoHito | joeyjones, that php safe mode is always on. |
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| 05:31.57 | simonrvn | a bad hack to overcome another one. ugh. |
| 05:31.59 | gaintsura | ar, I give up. apparently the answer isn't good enough |
| 05:32.10 | anoHito | set specific limitations on the mysql db ..is there a global options to do this for mysql ? |
| 05:32.14 | joeyjones | andrunko: so when you had a high system load did you run a top and track down the main process causing the load to be mysql or apache? |
| 05:32.26 | gaintsura | anoHito: I posted you a page to do that |
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| 05:34.18 | joeyjones | btw, any idea where i can find a cd image of etch? |
| 05:34.25 | gaintsura | check debian.org |
| 05:34.26 | gaintsura | ..? |
| 05:34.30 | centHOGG | old |
| 05:34.36 | joeyjones | it seem to have been pushed from the current release but not in the archive |
| 05:34.40 | khofech1 | hi, how to know the list of programs located on the 2th...5th debian DVD, so i'll decide to download em or not ? |
| 05:35.03 | gaintsura | joeyjones: I have an etch network install iso I could link you to |
| 05:35.03 | joeyjones | khofech1: just install what you need from apt |
| 05:35.09 | joeyjones | gaintsura: thanks |
| 05:35.17 | anoHito | joeyjones, based on my knowledge,i could only tell the mysql was the cause in 'top'. |
| 05:35.29 | gaintsura | joeyjones: 32 or 64 bit? |
| 05:35.32 | centHOGG | joeyjones: is etch v3 or v4 debian cuz I can check |
| 05:35.37 | joeyjones | gaintsura: 32 |
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| 05:35.48 | gaintsura | http://iso.systemxdev.com/debian-4.0-i386.iso |
| 05:35.51 | khofech1 | joeyjones: I can't , very slow and unstable connection , costed per megabyte (( |
| 05:36.08 | anoHito | joeyjones, or i need to upgrade mysql to apply the patches in the same version |
| 05:36.13 | gaintsura | khofech1: you'd be better off using apt-get than downloading 12GB of DVD's |
| 05:36.29 | gaintsura | much much more bandwidth effective |
| 05:36.34 | anoHito | joeyjones, but i do apt-get update && upgrade, i do not see newer mysql is available. |
| 05:36.37 | khofech1 | i'll not download the dvd , but will ask a friend to do so, |
| 05:36.42 | joeyjones | i spent 4 hours today trying to install 5.01 onto an embedded system with an external cd drive then a usb flash drive, and both times it said it needed to find a cdrom to mount |
| 05:37.16 | gaintsura | khofech1: or get a network install disk (48mb) and use that, then install your packages (~5.0GB), much better than 12GB |
| 05:37.21 | joeyjones | anoHito: as a quick measure i;d add an iptables rule to block external mysql access |
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| 05:37.37 | gaintsura | my iptables ruleset is getting huge |
| 05:37.43 | centHOGG | heh |
| 05:37.44 | joeyjones | heh |
| 05:37.53 | centHOGG | jinx |
| 05:37.54 | anoHito | joeyjones, what does that mean by "external mysql access' ? |
| 05:38.24 | joeyjones | anoHito: so it can only be access by the server itself, not from any point with internet access |
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| 05:38.44 | gaintsura | I've got 2 good rules for that on both in and out |
| 05:38.50 | simonrvn | anoHito: set specific limitations on the mysql db ..is there a global options to do this for mysql ? >> yes |
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| 05:38.59 | anoHito | joeyjones, how can they ? i have already set in mysql to skip networking |
| 05:39.03 | joeyjones | it also makes the system substantially more secure |
| 05:39.05 | khofech1 | thank u , but is there any method to know the content of the DVDs without download em ? |
| 05:39.24 | gaintsura | -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1/32 -d 127.0.0.1/32 -p tcp -m tcp --sport 1024:65535 --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT | -A INPUT -s ! 127.0.0.1/32 -d ! 127.0.0.1/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3306 -m state --state NEW -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-unreachable |
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| 05:39.32 | gaintsura | khofech1: packages.debian.org |
| 05:39.54 | khofech1 | thank u gaintsura |
| 05:39.56 | gaintsura | np |
| 05:39.59 | joeyjones | gaintsura: i always just use drop |
| 05:40.02 | anoHito | simonrvn, YES,i need that one,please, i am going to nuts recently :( even the prime manger of the idc center entered in my server to try to figure it out,no way,they will upgrade their firewall next monday anyways. |
| 05:40.10 | gaintsura | joeyjones: I like telling people they failed |
| 05:40.14 | Ace2017_- | hi all, does anyone here have an amd64 deb of: libprotobuf2 |
| 05:40.19 | gaintsura | its kind of like a giggle for me |
| 05:40.27 | Ace2017_- | it was in the repos but its gone |
| 05:40.30 | joeyjones | gaintsura: i like them to keep trying thinking they have a chance |
| 05:40.35 | simonrvn | anoHito: gaintsura posted you a link 10 minutes ago |
| 05:40.42 | gaintsura | yep |
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| 05:41.09 | gaintsura | joeyjones: best attack I've seen so far, port 21, username adminitrator (and yes, I know how I just spelled it), brute forcing rofl rofl |
| 05:41.22 | simonrvn | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/user-resources.html |
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| 05:41.35 | simonrvn | is what s/he posted |
| 05:41.46 | gaintsura | he |
| 05:41.47 | gaintsura | =) |
| 05:41.56 | joeyjones | gaintsura: one time they were trying to brute Administrator on my desktop's passworded wan-accessible ftp |
| 05:42.01 | joeyjones | the only user is joeyjones :p |
| 05:42.04 | anoHito | I am reading on that page. |
| 05:42.31 | gaintsura | joeyjones: lol, even better was they neglected to try 'ftp'/'ftp' which was open at that moment |
| 05:42.39 | joeyjones | and later i set it to auto-block IPs after like 5-10 failed attempts |
| 05:42.54 | gaintsura | iptables rule? |
| 05:43.03 | simonrvn | joeyjones: i used to get that all the time. now not so much. i use iptables' recent to limit. |
| 05:43.08 | joeyjones | gaintsura: i'm sorta paranoid, i nessus scan my server and network as well as random portscans |
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| 05:43.53 | joeyjones | and i'm also planning to buy an embedded system so i can make a custom firewall appliance |
| 05:44.09 | simonrvn | ooh |
| 05:44.13 | joeyjones | gaintsura: btw, i was trying to install onto one of http://www.viatech.com.tw/en/products/embedded/artigo/index.jsp |
| 05:44.36 | gaintsura | nice |
| 05:44.37 | simonrvn | needs something like that "have a rather unusual network layout" |
| 05:44.38 | gaintsura | whats the specs? |
| 05:44.46 | gaintsura | I'll shutup |
| 05:45.14 | Ace2017_- | ok i'll compile it |
| 05:45.22 | gaintsura | that would be nice to replace with my monster |
| 05:45.37 | simonrvn | right now i do it with a non-embedded system... would rather use something small and fast ;). |
| 05:45.44 | joeyjones | i want to buy something for myself similar to that, jsut with dual 100mbit ethernet ports |
| 05:46.05 | gaintsura | my buddy is turning his 1.5ghz laptop into a server |
| 05:46.09 | joeyjones | it's not neccesarily faster, but it takes tons less power and is quiet |
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| 05:46.22 | gaintsura | speaking of hosting and such.. I've got a chain of 5 servers on their way up =D |
| 05:46.33 | joeyjones | and is also designed to run non-stop, unlike most computers |
| 05:46.35 | gaintsura | spanned across my local metro area |
| 05:46.56 | joeyjones | weird... |
| 05:47.01 | gaintsura | weird? |
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| 05:47.09 | joeyjones | i think i just managed to kill of my ngome panels again |
| 05:47.13 | gaintsura | nice |
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| 05:47.19 | gaintsura | I dont have any gnome panels |
| 05:47.32 | gaintsura | just a dock |
| 05:47.36 | simonrvn | joeyjones: oh damn, too bad that thing only has one eth port |
| 05:47.38 | joeyjones | so i can still keep working, just can;t launch any applications |
| 05:47.45 | gaintsura | simonrvn: you could fix that |
| 05:47.50 | simonrvn | it's certainly cute too |
| 05:47.50 | joeyjones | simonrvn: i found some other ones |
| 05:48.02 | gaintsura | joeyjones: alt+f2 gnome-panel ? |
| 05:48.05 | simonrvn | sure, but i don't do soldering very well ;) |
| 05:48.14 | joeyjones | http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPS-910.cfm |
| 05:48.22 | joeyjones | http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EES-3711.cfm |
| 05:48.37 | gaintsura | thats what I'm talkin about |
| 05:48.40 | gaintsura | the 910 |
| 05:48.57 | gaintsura | ew |
| 05:49.00 | gaintsura | except the cpu |
| 05:49.05 | joeyjones | the 3711 is better |
| 05:49.14 | gaintsura | yeah |
| 05:49.34 | gaintsura | but the 910 has 2 lan ports |
| 05:49.37 | gaintsura | 3711 doesnt |
| 05:49.44 | joeyjones | it does |
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| 05:50.08 | joeyjones | it says 2xRJ45 |
| 05:50.28 | gaintsura | it only shows one |
| 05:50.46 | gaintsura | oh |
| 05:50.47 | gaintsura | 3711 |
| 05:50.51 | gaintsura | not 3610 |
| 05:51.33 | gaintsura | hm |
| 05:51.34 | gaintsura | odd |
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| 05:51.47 | gaintsura | they use a 3610 shot of the back for the 3711 |
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| 05:52.45 | joeyjones | yeah, the 3611's back |
| 05:52.57 | anoHito | gaintsura, my mysql is 5.0.4x so that page will work for me ? |
| 05:53.09 | gaintsura | yes |
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| 05:53.33 | joeyjones | gaintsura: any idea if i can kill/restart gnome/gnome panels through cli? |
| 05:53.44 | simonrvn | of course |
| 05:53.54 | simonrvn | kill it, it'll auto restart |
| 05:54.02 | simonrvn | if you're in a session, anyway |
| 05:54.02 | gaintsura | I wouldn't know... I don't keep my gnome panels around |
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| 05:55.08 | joeyjones | simonrvn: lol, i killed off my panels and they're not coming back... |
| 05:55.26 | gaintsura | can you alt+f2? |
| 05:55.28 | joeyjones | and there it is |
| 05:55.45 | joeyjones | that's how i got my terminal |
| 05:55.48 | joeyjones | thanks |
| 05:56.08 | gaintsura | still no luck with my wifi =( fail |
| 05:56.25 | joeyjones | btw, i wonder if i could have chosen the wrong boot type for a usb drive install |
| 05:56.34 | gaintsura | possible |
| 05:56.35 | joeyjones | it shouldn't ask for the cdrom drive |
| 05:56.35 | anoHito | I would leaves the account's existing privileges unchanged and modifies only the limit values specified. |
| 05:56.49 | gaintsura | anoHito: yes |
| 05:56.57 | anoHito | but i need to do it globaly. |
| 05:57.11 | gaintsura | you can do that |
| 05:57.19 | anoHito | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO '*'@'localhost' |
| 05:57.19 | anoHito | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.21 | gaintsura | if you're still having problems, try #mysql |
| 05:57.34 | anoHito | i can not join in it,says need to be invited. |
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| 05:59.15 | gaintsura | you need to be registered |
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| 05:59.31 | gaintsura | and identified |
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| 06:01.47 | simonrvn | !jelly |
| 06:01.56 | simonrvn | er? |
| 06:01.58 | gaintsura | ? |
| 06:02.04 | simonrvn | dpkg: test |
| 06:02.05 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 06:02.08 | gaintsura | !peanutbutter |
| 06:02.09 | dpkg | from memory, peanutbutter is delicious |
| 06:02.12 | gaintsura | yay |
| 06:02.14 | gaintsura | !yar |
| 06:02.17 | gaintsura | damn |
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| 06:12.57 | thermal | how do I prevent a package, that I installed through apt-get that had a subprocess post-installation error, from trying to run everytime I do anything else? |
| 06:14.42 | thermal | basically I've got a server running nginx, and I needed spawn-fcgi, so I installed lighttpd to get spawn-fcgi, but because I've already got nginx running, lighttpd couldn't bind to port 80 and now it keeps complaining about it every time I do anything in apt |
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| 06:15.14 | thermal | I already removed lighttpd from rc.d and killed any running lighttp processes |
| 06:16.07 | simonrvn | thermal: spawn-fcgi has been split out from lighttpd upstream. |
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| 06:16.20 | simonrvn | you might want to use that instead. |
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| 06:17.17 | hulo | hulo! I would like to move my / to a new partition. Is it a simply a matter of rsync -avx /old/ /new ? |
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| 06:18.58 | thermal | simonrvn well I thought of that first and checked apt-cache for spawn-fcgi, but there wasn't anything there so I just installed lighttp to grab it |
| 06:19.01 | cast | i imagine there will be more steps than that, fstab, bootloader |
| 06:19.31 | thermal | I mean, I'm using spawn-fcgi already and its all working properly, just kind of annoying having lightttp yelling in apt everytime I do something |
| 06:20.16 | greenmang0 | is there any captive portal available for debian? |
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| 06:21.04 | simonrvn | thermal: i don't usually recommend using stuff outside debian, preferring to use the package mgt. system, but debian's lighty is a bit slow to update.... |
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| 06:22.27 | thermal | well I grabbed lighttp through apt just for spawn-fcgi |
| 06:22.28 | owen1_ | how to add new fonts to ~/.Xresoures (after adding them to ~/.fonts) ? (i can't see them in xfontsel) |
| 06:22.50 | thermal | I just want to tell apt to ignore trying to finish up any post installation subprocesses |
| 06:25.27 | thermal | heh... lol fixed it, switched off nginx, installed something in apt, lightttp could start up properly, killed lighttp and restarted nginx... lol |
| 06:27.19 | simonrvn | yeh, that's porbably all that was needed ;). |
| 06:29.29 | thermal | hahaha yeah that did it just fine, I am curious though if there is a way to skip any post installation scripts like that when needed, but doesn't really matter |
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| 06:31.02 | simonrvn | not really no. you can edit the postinst, but that's not skipping it. |
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| 06:31.16 | bluethundr | I can ping the local network on my lenny box, but not to the rest of the nets |
| 06:31.21 | thermal | ok cool |
| 06:31.54 | thermal | bluethundr you have a gateway setup to get out? |
| 06:32.02 | bluethundr | which is weird. as I scp'd a copy of /etc/network/interfaces from a working box to this one, restarted network daemon and still no good. |
| 06:32.08 | bluethundr | yes |
| 06:32.10 | thermal | hit routel |
| 06:32.13 | valdyn | jpinx-eeepc: I have no idea why it would fail to take that argument |
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| 06:32.51 | simonrvn | there is no network daemon, unless you mean network-manager, but that doesn't touch /e/n/interfaces AFAIK. |
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| 06:35.23 | bluethundr | hmm on the last line of routel output I see default unreachable none lo unspec |
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| 06:36.46 | simonrvn | wow, i'd completely forgotten about routel... |
| 06:36.48 | bluethundr | I can ssh into the box from an outside network, and ssh by dns name to all the other boxes on the local lan, but no outside connectivity |
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| 06:37.42 | simonrvn | i have a metreic canoeload of routes on one box: |
| 06:37.44 | simonrvn | shift: 1: can't shift that many |
| 06:37.48 | simonrvn | metric* |
| 06:38.18 | simonrvn | heh heh |
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| 06:38.46 | thermal | bluethundr: I've got that same line at the bottom of routel so thats not whats causing the problem |
| 06:39.06 | bluethundr | thermal: ok.. thanks. any other clues? |
| 06:39.15 | bluethundr | could it be a firewall issue? |
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| 06:42.51 | anoHito | simonrvn, i am logged in #mysql but seems there is always Zzzzz. |
| 06:43.21 | anoHito | GRANT ALL ON customer.* TO 'francis'@'localhost' --> francis ? i need a global option. |
| 06:44.01 | anoHito | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO *'@'localhost' |
| 06:44.05 | anoHito | is that right ? |
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| 06:50.05 | Sashi | rawr |
| 06:50.08 | Sashi | is it possible to |
| 06:50.10 | Sashi | combine say |
| 06:50.18 | Sashi | a 250GB and 500GB HD into one big HD? |
| 06:50.31 | cast | sure. |
| 06:50.49 | cast | use lvm, or raid |
| 06:52.42 | Sashi | but will it do 500 or 750GB |
| 06:52.50 | raz0 | 750 |
| 06:53.37 | Sashi | k |
| 06:53.37 | raz0 | but you might not want to do it, because now just one HD needs to crash for you to lose your data |
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| 06:54.27 | Sashi | meh i dont mind LO |
| 06:54.28 | Sashi | :P |
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| 06:55.27 | cast | who needs data |
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| 06:55.53 | cast | if i wanted to keep data i'd store it on some kind of non-violatile medium, like a hard di...oh |
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| 06:56.55 | Supaplex | !start a database war |
| 06:56.55 | dpkg | postgresql rocks |
| 06:57.03 | Supaplex | I said war. DUH. hahaha. |
| 06:59.52 | \amethyst | seems the only way to win is not to play |
| 06:59.56 | mosno | Supaplex: funny, you posted that just as i was about to jump in to ##linux and start bitching about MySQL :) |
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| 07:00.37 | mosno | (not that i've found a technical problem, just that i think it may have been overkill for me to choose MediaWiki as my personal wiki) |
| 07:01.10 | Supaplex | haha :) I have a few instances of mediawiki. |
| 07:01.48 | mosno | Supaplex: i'm actually going to keep it, i was just freaking out because it was taking forever to go through the MySQL Reference Manual |
| 07:02.08 | mosno | Supaplex: are you using MediaWiki for single user? if so, have you locked it down? |
| 07:02.52 | Supaplex | it's in an intranet setting. |
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| 07:03.11 | Supaplex | no need to lock it down. :P I'm the only sysop user. ^.^ |
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| 07:04.10 | mosno | Supaplex: not that i've yet attempted to fix it (i'm familiarising myself with the LAMP stack first), but by default, MediaWiki seems to let anyone create pages and view anything (?) |
| 07:04.20 | Supaplex | yup |
| 07:04.38 | mosno | Supaplex: so by "lock down" i mean did you bother to remove that capability? |
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| 07:04.47 | Supaplex | I have not. |
| 07:04.51 | mosno | ok then |
| 07:05.00 | mosno | well, i'd like to, because i'll be storing personal info |
| 07:05.46 | Supaplex | I would lock it down, but I didn't figure out how to force users to be the username the server passes. |
| 07:05.47 | mosno | i'm thinking mediawiki mightn't be the best solution (they even warn about it in the doco, ie. using it for a locked down single user)... but i'm not sure what else to use that doesn't suck |
| 07:05.57 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:06.16 | Supaplex | it's not morning until they fix the light in the big blue room! |
| 07:06.35 | mosno | Supaplex: you mean you found a security bug? |
| 07:06.36 | deb-eate1 | morning dimir |
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| 07:07.28 | Supaplex | mosno: mediawiki sprung from use that powers wikipedia.org. They don't operate it this way, so it's not a security bug really. |
| 07:08.15 | Supaplex | I would like to lock down at least one instance this way... |
| 07:08.29 | mosno | Supaplex: what's the problem, exactly? |
| 07:08.39 | mosno | Supaplex: that users can spoof the auth? |
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| 07:09.04 | deb-eate1 | I am noticing a bottle neck at the xmission mirror for squeeze, are they updating packages? |
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| 07:09.39 | Supaplex | deb-eate1: Ask their staff. irc://irc.xmission.com/#xmlounge |
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| 07:10.42 | mosno | so, how do FOSS people organise their lives? i was thinking about implementing a wiki to basically braindump to... |
| 07:10.45 | Zarathust | ifconfig lo // returns : lo: error fetching interface information: Device not found |
| 07:10.53 | Zarathust | im in single user mode right now |
| 07:10.56 | Zarathust | with root |
| 07:11.20 | deb-eate1 | mosno: I'de go wit a weblog (Blog |
| 07:11.31 | cast | mosno: a day planner! |
| 07:11.46 | mosno | deb-eate1: i want to store it in a persistent manner; email/blogs are transient |
| 07:11.56 | mosno | deb-eate1: in the sense that they're purely time-oriented |
| 07:12.00 | Supaplex | so are wikis if you lost the database. |
| 07:12.06 | mosno | Supaplex: lol |
| 07:12.14 | cast | dokuwiki is neat :) |
| 07:12.19 | mosno | cast: you mean a paper one? |
| 07:12.25 | Supaplex | !start a wiki war |
| 07:12.30 | Supaplex | ahh fooey. :p |
| 07:12.34 | mosno | cast: i'd like whatever tool i choose to be accessible via https and any web browser |
| 07:12.37 | cast | Supaplex: how can you have a war, nothing else compares! |
| 07:12.43 | deb-eate1 | mosno: You just reminded me about my neglec\ted blog |
| 07:12.49 | cast | mosno: what stops me is the security implications :\ |
| 07:13.03 | mosno | cast: i rejected docuwiki for some reason... |
| 07:13.17 | cast | mosno: oh? |
| 07:13.20 | deb-eate1 | mosno: You just reminded me about my neglected blog, that is to say i havwe a blog whicth is behind the times |
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| 07:14.33 | mosno | cast: probably lack of database backend |
| 07:14.40 | mosno | cast: i don't quite recall |
| 07:14.46 | deb-eate1 | mosno: Http://www.compuorter.net |
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| 07:14.55 | deb-eate1 | mosno: Http://www.compuporter.net |
| 07:15.17 | cast | it's database backend is my favourite feature! |
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| 07:15.53 | mosno | deb-eate1: i see |
| 07:15.57 | deb-eate1 | cast: You know that wordpress also has a mysql database bakend |
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| 07:16.13 | mosno | cast: in that case wikimatrix.org is inaccurate |
| 07:16.29 | deb-eate1 | personally a prefer b2 eviolution |
| 07:16.31 | davidw | hi - how do I make msttcorefonts not be the default in my browser? I want to install them and only have those fonts used if there's nothing else |
| 07:16.32 | cast | mosno: it uses the filesystem it's db backend, nod. |
| 07:16.48 | mosno | cast: ah, i meant traditional RDBMS |
| 07:17.01 | mosno | cast: afaik, it uses rcs |
| 07:17.11 | mosno | cast: er, text files |
| 07:17.19 | davidw | I tried fiddling with the Priority = value in the hints file, but that seems to have no effect |
| 07:17.32 | deb-eate1 | texfile are way antiquated |
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| 07:19.03 | scum | Hi there flash running well in iceape but not in iceweasel although it is listed in plugins, any idea how to repair this? |
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| 07:20.30 | bluethundr | I can ping the local lan by dns name, but when I ping the outside world I get the message connect: Network is unreachable |
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| 07:23.25 | SoulSeller | route add default gw GW |
| 07:23.48 | SoulSeller | bluethundr, try this. |
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| 07:24.07 | SoulSeller | Ohhh... or did you edit your /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 07:24.19 | bluethundr | SoulSeller: no, did not edit resolv.conf |
| 07:24.43 | SoulSeller | Put there "nameserver 192.168.0.1" for example. |
| 07:24.46 | bluethundr | I scp'd the /etc/network/interfaces file from a working server over to this one and it's still not working |
| 07:24.48 | SoulSeller | That's your problem then. |
| 07:24.59 | SoulSeller | Hmm |
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| 07:25.06 | davidisko | guys, i got 22x1T 7200rpm samsungs in raid5 (256kb strip) on 3ware 9650se with bbu cache and getting really low read speeds... write (540MB/s (cause of wcache enabled)) but read only 40MB/s+. Any ideas? |
| 07:25.40 | bluethundr | SoulSeller: you fixed my problem bud |
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| 07:26.23 | SoulSeller | :) |
| 07:26.34 | SoulSeller | I gotta go, wish you luck and have nice day. :) |
| 07:26.55 | bluethundr | SoulSeller: thank you\ |
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| 07:33.31 | techouse | any idea why "mysql -v" works without sudo in ubuntu and requires sudo in debian? |
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| 07:35.25 | Supaplex | technology. yeah. that's it. |
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| 07:36.51 | gigo | I have installed postgresql using aptitude. Now how do I start it. |
| 07:37.06 | gigo | even after starting: /etc/init.d/postgresql start I can't find any sql process |
| 07:37.18 | Zoup | gigo: run psql |
| 07:37.21 | cast | gigo: check the README? |
| 07:38.39 | gigo | Zoup, isn't psql the client? |
| 07:39.18 | simonrvn | yes |
| 07:39.23 | Zoup | gigo: it is, you can make sure if server is running |
| 07:40.05 | gigo | so, it is unable to connect as the server is not running |
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| 07:46.42 | xxtjaxx | hi guys |
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| 07:48.23 | xxtjaxx | I've purchased a new Harddrive some time ago and would like to set it as another mountpoint into my system at mnt/sda1 but sadly I dont know where to get my fstab from somebody an Idea? |
| 07:48.37 | blubbar | hi, i have a fresh install of debian 5.0 and I want to install kde 4.2.2. how can I do that? |
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| 07:48.47 | gigo | where is the postgresql conf file in debian? |
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| 07:50.07 | xxtjaxx | blubbar Im sorry we dont support kde 4.2.2 from our stable releases yet but when you google while for "kaboom" you will find out thet its possible but not guaranteed to work properly yet |
| 07:50.30 | xxtjaxx | blubbar, but you can be a tester though |
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| 07:50.55 | blubbar | xxtjaxx: ok thanks, I must use testing in apt source or? |
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| 07:51.56 | xxtjaxx | you will find this also described than sorry but 9i cant recall it for my self |
| 07:53.20 | gigo | can someone please help me in troubleshooting my postgresql? |
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| 07:55.40 | simonrvn | gigo: dpkg -L packagename |
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| 07:56.06 | xxtjaxx | gigo I suggest you should check /etc/ |
| 07:56.26 | Stripes | what version of the kernel does testing/squeeze install by default? |
| 07:56.30 | xxtjaxx | gigo or /etc/postgresql/ if that exists |
| 07:56.39 | gigo | does not exist |
| 07:57.00 | xxtjaxx | stripes i dont know exactly but i donttzhink we have akernel there yet |
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| 07:57.56 | xxtjaxx | gigo as simonrvn said check dpkg -L postgresql |
| 07:58.03 | Shtl | %C4in lenny when i run the command "modprobe vboxdrv" its saying no modules found, so which package i have to install for that? |
| 07:58.26 | Shtl | in lenny when i run the command "modprobe vboxdrv" its saying no modules found, so which package i have to install for that? |
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| 07:59.23 | simonrvn | gigo: then you haven't installed a server... |
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| 08:00.00 | gigo | here is my output : http://pastebin.com/m754f2538 |
| 08:00.08 | cyzie | hi, which package has the default configruation file for xorg.conf ? |
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| 08:00.27 | gigo | simonrvn, i installed the postgresql package : aptitude install postgresql |
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| 08:00.48 | simonrvn | /etc/postgresql will exist if you install a postgres server... |
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| 08:01.43 | simonrvn | gigo: yes, and? i don't have it installed but i have a server installed on the other machine. |
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| 08:02.15 | gigo | so have I installed the wrong package? |
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| 08:02.24 | simonrvn | gigo: apt-cache show postgresql |
| 08:02.32 | simonrvn | see what it says |
| 08:02.40 | xxtjaxx | cyzie ls /etc/X11/ there should be a backup too |
| 08:03.04 | gigo | http://pastebin.com/m60d2ad65 |
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| 08:03.11 | gigo | simonrvn, ^ |
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| 08:03.20 | simonrvn | why are you showing me? |
| 08:03.41 | gigo | so that you can help. you seem to know more than me. I am new to postgresql. |
| 08:04.01 | simonrvn | i don't need to see that output, i can run that fine here too ;). |
| 08:04.17 | simonrvn | thoughtful though. :) |
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| 08:04.24 | gigo | ok. so where is the problem in my installation? |
| 08:04.35 | gigo | i don't even have /etc/postgresql |
| 08:04.41 | gigo | i am using squeeze. |
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| 08:04.56 | simonrvn | so how did you install it? |
| 08:05.02 | simonrvn | apt-get ? |
| 08:05.09 | xxtjaxx | gigo then your one of the very very first |
| 08:05.22 | gigo | simonrvn, aptitude |
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| 08:05.28 | gigo | xxtjaxx, very very first of what? |
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| 08:05.41 | xxtjaxx | gigo of testing squeeze |
| 08:05.42 | simonrvn | that should have pulled it in. on my sid box it deps on postgresql-8.3 |
| 08:05.52 | simonrvn | xxtjaxx: what? |
| 08:05.52 | agilman | hello, how do I unload a module that is currently in use? |
| 08:05.57 | maxagaz | how to check the list of the ports used on my computer and which service uses it ? |
| 08:06.00 | simonrvn | modprobe -r |
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| 08:06.12 | agilman | simonrvn: it gives me an error message, saying its in use |
| 08:06.30 | agilman | simonrvn: is there a list somewhere where I can prevent it from starting in the first place? |
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| 08:06.47 | simonrvn | agilman: man modprobe next time. well then unload whatever is using it. it might also be "locked", and cannot be unloaded. |
| 08:06.53 | xxtjaxx | simonrvn I mean its pretty early for it to test |
| 08:07.10 | cyzie | xxtjaxx, any default one? |
| 08:07.11 | simonrvn | lenny's been out a while ;). |
| 08:07.12 | gigo | which process should I expect to run if postgresql is running? |
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| 08:07.38 | simonrvn | gigo: postgres, under postgres user |
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| 08:07.46 | xxtjaxx | cyzie why don you just chefk whats in there |
| 08:08.06 | istran02 | help error in eclipse |
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| 08:08.16 | jintxo | maxagaz, nestat -ntap is a god start (for TCP ports) |
| 08:08.21 | simonrvn | !tell istran02 -about ask |
| 08:08.26 | Stripes | sorry..what I meant was the new ubuntu uses kernel version 2.6.28. what does debian testing use these days by default on installation? |
| 08:09.00 | xxtjaxx | Stripes check the debian site fopr this |
| 08:09.23 | istran02 | i have installed the eclipse in my deb 64bit |
| 08:09.30 | istran02 | i got some error |
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| 08:10.12 | xxtjaxx | istran02, what does it say? |
| 08:10.18 | istran02 | w8 |
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| 08:10.36 | istran02 | here is the first one: This Eclipse build doesn't have support for the integrated browser |
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| 08:11.17 | gigo | checked the startup scripts. problem is missing /etc/postgresql directory |
| 08:11.33 | gigo | when it finds the directory /etc/postgresql/8.3 missing, it returns 0 and so nothing happens |
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| 08:11.41 | istran02 | after the splash screen appear this is the error:JVM terminated. Exit code=127 |
| 08:11.41 | istran02 | /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/java |
| 08:11.41 | istran02 | -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni |
| 08:11.41 | istran02 | -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.2/classmap.db |
| 08:11.41 | istran02 | -Dgnu.gcj.runtime.VMClassLoader.library_control=never |
| 08:11.41 | istran02 | -Dosgi.locking=none |
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| 08:12.38 | istran02 | sorry for that |
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| 08:13.15 | simonrvn | gigo: ok, so /msg dpkg confmiss and remedy it. it's odd it didn't create /etc/postgresql |
| 08:13.20 | simonrvn | !paste |
| 08:13.20 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 08:13.21 | Supaplex | istran02: is the exit code returned from a shell script? |
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| 08:13.36 | maxagaz | jintxo, thanks |
| 08:13.46 | Stripes | I can't find anywhere on debian site saying what kernel testing/squeeze uses now |
| 08:13.49 | xxtjaxx | istran02, the first says that the packager wasnt able to put the bropwser in for some reason |
| 08:14.01 | jintxo | Stripes, packages.debian.org |
| 08:14.08 | xxtjaxx | istran02, maybe itwas much too buggy for him |
| 08:14.20 | simonrvn | judd: versions linux-image-2.6 --release squeeze |
| 08:14.21 | judd | simonrvn: linux-image-2.6 -- |
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| 08:14.29 | simonrvn | *sigh* |
| 08:14.40 | istran02 | so what should i do/ |
| 08:14.42 | simonrvn | judd: versions linux-image --release squeeze |
| 08:14.42 | judd | simonrvn: linux-image -- |
| 08:15.07 | simonrvn | tries to remember the meta-package name... |
| 08:15.25 | gigo | I exected : aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall postgresql |
| 08:15.33 | gigo | still no /etc/postgresql/8.3 |
| 08:15.37 | istran02 | should i remove eclipse and install another IDE? |
| 08:15.41 | xxtjaxx | istran02, ask the people in the eclipse as they should know what to do withthat error |
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| 08:16.41 | simonrvn | gigo: no, postgresql-8.3 |
| 08:16.49 | gigo | tried that too. no benefit. |
| 08:17.13 | simonrvn | *blink* |
| 08:17.15 | xxtjaxx | gigo try it again dont be ignorant |
| 08:17.25 | istran02 | i think i have to remove and try netbeans... |
| 08:17.50 | gigo | xxtjaxx, how will trying again fix it? but I will try it any way. |
| 08:17.56 | xxtjaxx | istran02, dont be lazy check for it at thje eclipse st |
| 08:18.21 | gigo | xxtjaxx, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall postgresql-8.3 |
| 08:18.29 | gigo | tried this but I still don't have /etc/postgresql |
| 08:18.37 | simonrvn | *sigh* ok so unpack the thing. dpkg --unpack foo.deb , does it show up then? |
| 08:18.42 | Supaplex | simonrvn: linux-2.6 would be the source. right? |
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| 08:18.56 | istran02 | ok thanks xxtjaxx |
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| 08:19.18 | Supaplex | the .dsc file should show the binary targets. humm |
| 08:19.23 | simonrvn | gigo: if not, then extract the data contents into some temporary dir, check the perms, and copy what you need into place. |
| 08:19.31 | simonrvn | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 --release squeeze |
| 08:19.32 | judd | simonrvn: linux-image-2.6-686 -- squeeze: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 |
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| 08:19.48 | simonrvn | Supaplex: extra crap... :( |
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| 08:20.35 | simonrvn | gigo: oh, dpkg -x foo.deb somedir/ |
| 08:20.54 | istran02 | r u recommend netbeans for php ide? |
| 08:20.58 | Supaplex | !u |
| 08:20.58 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 08:21.28 | xxtjaxx | when i have setup a new harddrive for my system and added its first partition to fstab wuld that miount it at reboot then? |
| 08:22.10 | simonrvn | it would mount it with mount -a even. amazing, innit. |
| 08:22.36 | gigo | simonrvn, no benefit. I think some important dependency is missing. none of the deb files has /etc/postgresql |
| 08:22.46 | gigo | only one of them have /etc/postgresql-common |
| 08:22.49 | gigo | but no /etc/postgresql |
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| 08:23.35 | simonrvn | gigo: ok, it's my fault.. i thought it was in the -8.3... |
| 08:23.51 | simonrvn | it's in -common |
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| 08:24.09 | simonrvn | no, it isn't either |
| 08:24.13 | gigo | but the /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 is looking for /etc/postgresql/8.3 and failing |
| 08:24.21 | gigo | because I don't have /etc/postgresql/8.3 |
| 08:24.40 | gigo | simonrvn, could you please tell me which package is supposed to give me /etc/postgresql/8.3 |
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| 08:24.52 | simonrvn | ok, hold o. seems to be created on install... lemme check some stuff |
| 08:24.55 | simonrvn | on* |
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| 08:27.26 | gigo | simonrvn, do you also use squeeze? |
| 08:27.27 | simonrvn | gigo: ok,. for some reason debconf didn't get called - this script creates the 8.3/ and contents /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions . did the install abort in some way? |
| 08:27.50 | gigo | no, the install completed every time i tried |
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| 08:28.29 | simonrvn | the configure_version() function is what *seems* to do it. |
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| 08:29.29 | gigo | install logs here : http://pastebin.com/m181695b7 |
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| 08:30.50 | gigo | how can I remove those locale warnings? |
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| 08:31.26 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 08:31.43 | ignotus | what is a good looking system notification software in Debian? |
| 08:31.49 | phaidros | what would be recommended in debian world to use instead of cfengine ? |
| 08:33.52 | gigo | is there a way I can install just the postgresql thing from lenny? |
| 08:33.59 | gigo | and then continue working with squeeze again? |
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| 08:35.54 | azeem | gigo: check backports.org |
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| 08:37.34 | simonrvn | gigo: try dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-8.3 |
| 08:37.50 | simonrvn | gigo: actually, make that dpkg-reconfigure -plow postgresql-8.3 |
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| 08:38.28 | gigo | done, the command finished in a jiffy. no /etc/postgresql yet |
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| 08:39.16 | simonrvn | try sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql-8.3.postinst configure # spammy! |
| 08:39.19 | axis | so i have a remote server with root access. It has no monitor. I wanted to be able to create a virtual desktop or a remote desktop. I ran apt-get install gnome, and installed everything that came along with it. I then installed vncserver (apt-get install vncserver).. I ran vncserver as user axis, xauth: creating new authority file /home/axis/.Xauthority -- Starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession -- but when I connect, all i see is a backr |
| 08:40.02 | simonrvn | gigo: if that fails, dpkg-reconfigure debconf, set priority to low, dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-8.3 ; then file a bug |
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| 08:41.17 | gigo | simonrvn, did not help. how do I file a bug? |
| 08:41.22 | gigo | is there a web interface to file a bug? |
| 08:41.26 | simonrvn | reportbug |
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| 08:41.51 | ignotus | ah I found dzen2, looks fabolous |
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| 08:48.31 | okn | How do I make root and my user have the same settings for apps and such? |
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| 08:50.54 | cast | why would one do that? |
| 08:51.04 | cast | copy the relevant config files to the roots home dir |
| 08:51.26 | cast | ~/.bashrc, for example |
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| 08:52.51 | anddam | hello |
| 08:53.16 | dam999 | Hey all, I configured automatic login for my home machine and since then the network manager is asking for a password to unlock the gnome-keyring-manager to access my wireless encryption key. |
| 08:53.37 | dam999 | Is it safe to set the keyring password to be blank or is this likely to compromise anything? |
| 08:55.15 | internat | well |
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| 08:55.33 | internat | id imagine it meant that if anyone can get access to your computer the could open your keychain and see everything you ahve saved.. |
| 08:56.06 | dam999 | But only if they are sitting at the machine I'm hoping? |
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| 08:58.11 | internat | sure. |
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| 08:58.35 | internat | assuming you cant ssh in or anything else that is. |
| 08:59.06 | dam999 | Isn't there another way to configure this? It seems odd that the keyring is unlocked if you use the login screen but not when automatic login feature is used. |
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| 09:06.55 | merlin83_ | has anyone tried out this week's debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso ? it seems to be unable to connect to the network (under vmware).. the normal iso works fine though |
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| 09:13.11 | simonrvn | nope |
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| 09:17.53 | okn | How to install pypanel? online it says it's in the repository but when i try to, it's not listed |
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| 09:20.33 | internat | what error do you get okn |
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| 09:21.41 | okn | internat, "No candidate version found for pypanel" |
| 09:22.09 | internat | have you run "aptitude update" recently? |
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| 09:22.38 | okn | o man what a pain setting up a standalone wm |
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| 09:23.45 | Coweater | it's not in stable |
| 09:24.15 | okn | ah okay |
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| 09:32.31 | anoHito | Has anyone tried memcached ? |
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| 09:35.12 | bluethundr_ | basic apache works, but tomcat seems hosed |
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| 10:00.35 | anddam | hello |
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| 10:02.36 | svip | My Debian server keeps crashing - or rather becomes inuseable, and I want to know why. |
| 10:03.12 | svip | When it happens, every command in the terminal fails with this message: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-minimal.c: 84: __libc_memalign: Assertion `page != ((void *) -1)' failed! |
| 10:03.29 | svip | When I log out, and try to re-ssh into it again, I get this message "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". |
| 10:03.52 | svip | Luckily, I am able to remotely reboot it through a web interface, when rebooted the machine works like a charm again. |
| 10:04.18 | svip | Though, it has failed thrice now, so I am afraid it might happen again, so I am wondering what I should pay attention to and what I might be able to fix. |
| 10:04.36 | svip | It is a Debian 4.0 machine running Apache2, PHP and a MySQL database, and pretty much nothing else. |
| 10:04.45 | cast | curious @ page != ((void *) -1), |
| 10:05.27 | svip | So have I... |
| 10:05.40 | svip | I think it has something to do with memory allocation. |
| 10:05.49 | svip | Because PHP complains about the same thing; it runs out of memory. |
| 10:05.56 | cast | something certainly is fubar |
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| 10:06.14 | svip | Very much. |
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| 10:08.20 | svip | I cannot figure out if the logs could be of any help, cast. |
| 10:09.16 | themill | svip: if you don't use innodb, then try uncommenting skip-innodb in /etc/mysql/my.cnf. That can save you ~100MB. |
| 10:09.47 | themill | (if it's memory pressure that's the problem) |
| 10:10.07 | svip | 'fraid not. |
| 10:10.14 | svip | MediaWiki uses InnoDB a lot. |
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| 10:15.02 | themill | pity. debsums and/or memtest would be the next things to look at, I guess. |
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| 10:15.49 | JyZyXEL | "/etc/rc2.d/S25pulseaudio start" fails without any output |
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| 10:30.08 | alecs1 | hi, I see some "colour fringes" on fonts on dark background, but magnifying the screenshot I can see they are quite the same as everythng on the internet |
| 10:30.16 | alecs1 | is it worth a reportbug? |
| 10:30.31 | alecs1 | screenshot at http://alecs1.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/fringes.png |
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| 10:32.19 | svip | Wow. |
| 10:32.21 | DevilChaos | hi guys |
| 10:32.24 | cast | i don't see anyhing in the screenshot |
| 10:32.26 | svip | Why is mysqld running a million times?! |
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| 10:33.02 | svip | Well; at least appears several times over in top. |
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| 10:33.06 | cast | ahh, now i get ya. |
| 10:33.08 | JyZyXEL | how do i debug a machine that just freezes randomly? |
| 10:33.21 | JyZyXEL | liek once a month my gateway just fucking freezes and nothing works anymore |
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| 10:33.46 | JyZyXEL | i just have to recycle the power |
| 10:33.50 | anoHito | Hi guys,in debian ,how do i check if there is a disk i/o problem ? |
| 10:33.54 | cast | JyZyXEL: isolate whether its hardware or software |
| 10:34.02 | JyZyXEL | how do i know? |
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| 10:34.52 | cast | JyZyXEL: i'd setup another OS and see what happens, |
| 10:35.18 | cast | JyZyXEL: presuming it's a hard freeze and logs are empty |
| 10:35.23 | JyZyXEL | what logs? |
| 10:35.24 | DevilChaos | i have read an artitle in debian-administration.org about ading a line to /etc/init.d/rc file startup $i start and add & but cant see it for looking where in the file is this located and can anyone give me tips on faster start up? |
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| 10:35.32 | cast | ones in /var/log/ |
| 10:35.40 | alecs1 | cast: manify it; it may be that my eyes are over reacting, I don't know if it can get better than that |
| 10:35.46 | JyZyXEL | which one is gonna have crash information? |
| 10:35.46 | svip | Should I be nervous about one application appearing several times in my process table? |
| 10:36.09 | svip | I mean apache2 appear 10 times with ps -a |
| 10:36.17 | cast | alecs1: you mean at the top where it says Amarok - Dan right? |
| 10:36.26 | svip | ps -A* |
| 10:36.58 | alecs1 | yes, amarok and Kate decoration |
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| 10:37.09 | DevilChaos | orinoco kicks wireless butt woopwoop |
| 10:39.23 | xingu | svip: preforked worker threads, nothing to worry about |
| 10:40.04 | alecs1 | cast: I wanted to reprot a bug, but I know I have seen much worse; maybe it can't be better that this |
| 10:40.14 | DevilChaos | how can i get exim4 to load quickly ? |
| 10:40.22 | xingu | JyZyXEL: if you don't have a watchdog configured, do so |
| 10:40.23 | cast | alecs1: is that a KDE effect? |
| 10:40.40 | xingu | JyZyXEL: softdog if your hw has no tco timer |
| 10:40.50 | svip | Well, xingu. |
| 10:41.05 | cast | alecs1: i'd ask in your WM/DE channel if that's normal, it might be just the effects aren't very polished yet |
| 10:41.24 | JyZyXEL | xingu no such thing in lenny repo |
| 10:41.27 | svip | xingu: My Debian system still fails with a lack of memory. |
| 10:41.34 | JyZyXEL | !dpkg softdog |
| 10:41.37 | xingu | JyZyXEL: package is watchdog, driver is softdog |
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| 10:41.57 | xingu | JyZyXEL: newish hw will have a tco timer |
| 10:42.06 | anoHito | hi guys, my debian server once has not been shutdown ,i just did shutdown now, forgot to add -h, after that, datacentre cut off the power to send it to another datacentre,that is where it is at right now |
| 10:42.20 | anoHito | but since then, i was starting to meet starnge high load problem |
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| 10:42.27 | anoHito | right since then,i meant. |
| 10:42.30 | alecs1 | cast: I'll try to check with gnome, thanks |
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| 10:42.43 | JyZyXEL | xingu so how will this help me? |
| 10:42.58 | anoHito | especially when doing disk options,like deleting and stuff, plus always the mysql issue it seems, system has a very high load. |
| 10:43.08 | anoHito | while fpt and static pages are all okay |
| 10:43.11 | anoHito | any clue ? |
| 10:43.22 | anoHito | disk opertions* |
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| 10:43.59 | JyZyXEL | xingu if its a hardware related freezing its not gonna help? |
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| 10:44.05 | JyZyXEL | which if probably is |
| 10:44.21 | JyZyXEL | since if it was software wouldn't kernel print a panic message to terminals |
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| 10:46.03 | xingu | JyZyXEL: it may help; it will help if your chipset has a tco timer |
| 10:46.20 | xingu | JyZyXEL: at a 1mo period I doubt it's a hw issue |
| 10:46.27 | xingu | JyZyXEL: sounds more like a leak to me |
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| 10:46.33 | JyZyXEL | leak? |
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| 10:54.20 | JyZyXEL | how do you reinstall a debian package? |
| 10:54.40 | lillis | AAAARGH! |
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| 10:54.55 | lillis | How can UTF-8 get messed up between a server and a client running UTF-8? |
| 10:55.13 | lillis | the program (gtmess) works flawlessly at the client |
| 10:55.22 | lillis | and I can write the foreign (swedish) chars in the ssh shell |
| 10:55.36 | lillis | but when i start gtmess at the shell server it cant display the characters properly |
| 10:55.39 | lillis | same with centerim |
| 10:55.42 | lillis | irssi works |
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| 10:58.53 | nkuttler | lillis: sounds like that app is broken. centerim has a unicode version btw |
| 10:59.01 | lillis | tried centerim-utf8 |
| 10:59.06 | lillis | exact same issue |
| 10:59.34 | nkuttler | which terminal? |
| 10:59.42 | lillis | xterm |
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| 11:03.30 | abrotman | xterm and centerim is on the local machine? |
| 11:03.51 | anoHito | hi abrotman ,how are you. |
| 11:05.03 | anoHito | in dmesg,there are some strange lines |
| 11:05.16 | anoHito | TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer ....and so on. |
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| 11:06.01 | lillis | abrotman: i run xterm on my local debian machine |
| 11:06.06 | lillis | ssh:s to the ubuntu server |
| 11:06.11 | cyzie | ok, i think squeeze f*** up my nvidia driver and the vga |
| 11:06.12 | lillis | and there i run gtmess |
| 11:06.35 | abrotman | anoHito: hello |
| 11:06.53 | abrotman | lillis: did you try running centerim on the local machine to see if the problem persists? |
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| 11:08.51 | abrotman | anoHito: did you google the message? |
| 11:09.02 | anoHito | yes,but i do not understand what to do. |
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| 11:09.51 | anoHito | abrotman, http://pastebin.ca/1402736 |
| 11:10.03 | abrotman | anoHito: http://magazine.redhat.com/2007/01/29/why-do-i-get-tcp-treason-uncloaked-messages-in-my-system-logs/ |
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| 11:10.31 | anoHito | abrotman, after i moved to this datacentre, i immediately started to having a high load problem. |
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| 11:11.18 | abrotman | anoHito: are you running torrents? |
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| 11:11.57 | anoHito | abrotman, i am running a web server.no torrents. |
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| 11:12.23 | anoHito | abrotman, i have 2 IPs in this datacenter,i used to have 1 IP in the old DC, no problem at all. |
| 11:12.33 | toshiba510cdt | does anyone here use audacious on very low spec machine like say a Pentium 133 MHz? |
| 11:12.38 | anoHito | but since i moved in this new DC, gees. :( |
| 11:12.45 | abrotman | i don't think the number of IPs is the problem |
| 11:12.54 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: the audio editing app? |
| 11:13.35 | toshiba510cdt | no, the media player http://audacious-media-player.org/ |
| 11:14.18 | anoHito | abrotman, does that message means the IDC limite bandwidth ? |
| 11:14.18 | abrotman | oh whoops .. audacious .. not audacity |
| 11:14.41 | JyZyXEL | can i download just one file from debian package? |
| 11:14.49 | JyZyXEL | i managed to fuck up a conf file and i need the original |
| 11:15.02 | SQlvpapir | JyZyXEL: its a tarball iirc |
| 11:15.26 | Eulex | no, it's an ar archive, and the data files themselves are stored in a tarball inside it |
| 11:15.33 | toshiba510cdt | abrotman, my Pentium 133 MHz laptop is somewhat underpowered to edit sound and video. |
| 11:15.35 | JyZyXEL | aptitude reinstall doesn't btw give a fuck about the conf files |
| 11:15.47 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't even care if they are there or not |
| 11:15.55 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't reinstall them |
| 11:15.56 | petemc | !confmiss |
| 11:15.56 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 11:16.05 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: it's really a quesiton of how much RAM |
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| 11:16.13 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: do you ever read man pages? |
| 11:16.17 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, that's by design. |
| 11:16.27 | JyZyXEL | abrotman yea |
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| 11:17.21 | toshiba510cdt | abrotman, correct me if i am wrong but edit audio and/or video you also need a fairly powerful CPU, meaning a Pentium 133 MHz will not do |
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| 11:17.40 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: it may do, but not well |
| 11:17.59 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, it will do. but slowly. |
| 11:18.02 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: i used to try to listen to mp3s on a 486 .. but i used a console player that i could cut the bit rate IIRC |
| 11:18.24 | abrotman | anoHito: if you're really concerned .. you can block that IP |
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| 11:19.10 | abrotman | anoHito: it's a chinese IP FWIW |
| 11:19.14 | toshiba510cdt | abrotman, Eulex, do you ***edit*** audio or video on a Pentium 133 MHz or lower machine? |
| 11:19.38 | anoHito | abrotman, hmm, that could be a inversion ? |
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| 11:19.42 | anoHito | invision ? |
| 11:19.45 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: i used to .. long ago, so the tools i used were not the tools from today |
| 11:19.55 | abrotman | anddam: invasion ? |
| 11:20.24 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, I haven't. I used a p2 300 to do some once. but a p133 will do, but it will be slow :D |
| 11:20.58 | toshiba510cdt | all i want to do is *play* music CDs and the odd ogg file using modern apps either on X or on the console |
| 11:21.07 | cahoot | stick to music by Pärt and other minimalists |
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| 11:21.48 | gigo | I have installed postgresql on Lenny. Now, I do, su - to log in as root. then su - postgres |
| 11:21.52 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: skip audacious .. use cplay or something like .. it's a frontend to other players, but it should be a bit easier for you |
| 11:22.08 | gigo | I am logged in as postgres and the moment I type any thing in the shell, an exit command is executed automatically and I log out of postgres |
| 11:22.12 | gigo | why does this happen? |
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| 11:23.22 | toshiba510cdt | i like audacious because its got a mixer and an equalizer. can you recommend a lighter app that has those 2 things ? |
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| 11:24.11 | cahoot | ecasound for all your audio needs |
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| 11:24.35 | abrotman | what was that crack tarzeau was pushing last year .. |
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| 11:27.08 | lillis | 13:01 < abrotman> lillis: did you try running centerim on the local machine to see if the problem |
| 11:27.12 | lillis | abrotman: yes, it works |
| 11:27.15 | lillis | as does gtmess |
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| 11:27.34 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, uhm well, if your p133 does mixing and equalizing in realtime, you should call yourself lucky. |
| 11:27.40 | abrotman | lillis: are you sure both your machine and the server are using utf8? |
| 11:27.58 | lillis | debian and ubuntu default installs, nothing's changed |
| 11:28.05 | lillis | and running "env" in the shell shows me UTF-8 |
| 11:28.14 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: i've not used itmuch .. but opencubicplayer is a text based player with the features you were asking for |
| 11:28.18 | lillis | and forcing irssi to UTF-8 mode works just fine on the server |
| 11:28.20 | JyZyXEL | Eulex they take that much processing power? |
| 11:28.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: you owe me one! |
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| 11:29.22 | JyZyXEL | oh realtime ;p |
| 11:29.49 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, depends on the quality of the mixing and equalizing |
| 11:30.14 | abrotman | lillis: it sounds like for some dumb reason the apps on the server aren't running utf8? |
| 11:30.15 | JyZyXEL | quality of mixing? |
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| 11:30.31 | lillis | abrotman: I'm pretty sure centerim-utf8 runs utf8 :P |
| 11:30.42 | abrotman | lillis: i'm skeptical! |
| 11:30.54 | gigo | I purged postgresql and trying to install it again, but it is not recreating the /etc/postgresql directory |
| 11:30.59 | gigo | how do i force it to recreate it? |
| 11:31.26 | abrotman | gigo: you mean you deleted it ? |
| 11:31.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: why? |
| 11:31.30 | abrotman | !tell gigo about confmiss |
| 11:31.39 | abrotman | tarzeau: i recommended ocp to someone :) |
| 11:31.41 | tarzeau | ah opencubicplayer :) |
| 11:31.46 | anoHito | abrotman, the dmesg cannot tell when that message was record. |
| 11:31.53 | JyZyXEL | ocp is 1337 |
| 11:31.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha whenever you're in switzerland you'll get the best ever local beer! |
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| 11:32.03 | abrotman | heh |
| 11:32.03 | anoHito | abrotman, so i am doing a reboot,to check if that message comes back again in dmesg. |
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| 11:32.12 | tarzeau | JyZyXEL: yeah, and grafx2 is so too! as well as milkytracker and schism and goattracker |
| 11:32.39 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, firstly, the quality of the audio will make a huge difference (16-bit stereo 44khz? 8-bit mono 11khz?). and then equalizing can be implemented in may different ways; you usually perform an approximation. |
| 11:32.55 | JyZyXEL | Eulex nono but u said quality of mixing |
| 11:33.03 | JyZyXEL | as far as i know that can only be implemented in one way |
| 11:33.13 | abrotman | with a mixing bowl |
| 11:33.16 | gigo | abrotman: I did aptitude -o DPkg::options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall postgresql-8.3 but it did not recreate the /etc/postgresql directory |
| 11:33.17 | tarzeau | also the quality of you speakers can make music suffer |
| 11:33.18 | JyZyXEL | sum of the signals |
| 11:33.34 | tarzeau | pets his harman kardon iSub (poor neighbours) |
| 11:33.42 | gigo | abrotman: first, I aptitude purge postgresql then I deleted /etc/postgresql |
| 11:33.45 | Eulex | JyZyXEL, yeah, that was a mistake |
| 11:33.48 | abrotman | gigo: sorry .. wrong package .. probably one of the dependencies like postgresql-8.3-common or something like that |
| 11:33.48 | JyZyXEL | ;) |
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| 11:35.16 | toshiba510cdt | abrotman, ocp is too heavy, punishes my cpu, its interface is the ugliest of them all and it is not user friendly at all |
| 11:35.34 | gigo | abrotman: tried postgresql-common too. didn't help. |
| 11:35.34 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: i find it hard to believe that ocp punishes your CPU but audacity does not |
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| 11:36.05 | abrotman | $ apt-file search etc/postgresql |
| 11:36.05 | abrotman | postgresql-client-common: /etc/postgresql-common/user_clusters |
| 11:36.05 | abrotman | postgresql-common: /etc/postgresql-common/autovacuum.conf |
| 11:36.22 | abrotman | gigo: uh .. that didn't help .. |
| 11:36.25 | gigo | so they don't have the /etc/postgresql directory |
| 11:36.33 | abrotman | gigo: might be the client package .. |
| 11:36.39 | gigo | abrotman: during installation i saw that the installer was creating the /etc/postgresql directory |
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| 11:36.47 | toshiba510cdt | abrotman, do you at present like right now run lenny and those apps on a Pentium 133 MHz or lower spec box? |
| 11:36.53 | gigo | it was done apart from normal unpacking |
| 11:37.02 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: i told you earlier .. no |
| 11:37.29 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: but when i was using them .. i didn't really care about having a mixer .. it was more just to have the music |
| 11:37.34 | toshiba510cdt | well, there you are. i am talking from personal and current experience |
| 11:37.45 | abrotman | toshiba510cdt: great .. i still find it hard to believe |
| 11:37.59 | tarzeau | toshiba510cdt: have you used the textmode interface 80x25 of ocp? |
| 11:38.01 | gigo | abrotman: how do I just tell aptitude to reinstall everything again just like it did the first time I installed? |
| 11:38.12 | gigo | i did aptitude install postgresql the first time |
| 11:38.15 | tarzeau | toshiba510cdt: i've run it on a pentium 133 mhz machine on dos and windows |
| 11:38.29 | abrotman | gigo: you have to find the right package |
| 11:38.31 | tarzeau | toshiba510cdt: there's no reason for it to not run on linux with that same hardware. the problem is i can't get such crap anymore |
| 11:39.13 | Eulex | toshiba510cdt, do you really need software mixing? |
| 11:39.17 | toshiba510cdt | tarzeau, ocp's user interface is the worse thing i have seen for quite a while |
| 11:39.54 | gigo | abrotman: no way to tell aptitutde to purge my current postgresql completely and start afresh? |
| 11:40.01 | tarzeau | toshiba510cdt: haha. you've never run special software have you? fontfoge? blender? and similar stuff? |
| 11:40.10 | anoHito | abrotman, it is strange,after a reboot,this message has gone. |
| 11:40.14 | abrotman | gigo: dpkg -l postgresql* .. look for the ones that are rc |
| 11:40.16 | tarzeau | toshiba510cdt: actually it's not, and it's different to what you're used to |
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| 11:40.53 | toshiba510cdt | all i need is an app, especially a console one, that can play audio cds, mp3s, oggs and has a buli-in mixer and equalizer. so far the only one that i could find that is stable and currently developed is audacious |
| 11:41.10 | trupheenix | hi i am trying to install debian lenny lxde over my ubuntu partition. the installer gets stuck because it looks for a clean partition. so what should i do? i have lots of data and no place to back it up. |
| 11:41.13 | toshiba510cdt | and yes audacious is slow on my machine |
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| 11:42.09 | mosno | trupheenix: just make a /trupheenix dir, move your files to it, and delete everything else |
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| 11:42.29 | trupheenix | mosno, so basically i get rid of everything else other than the home directory? |
| 11:42.39 | mosno | trupheenix: then make sure you don't format the partition |
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| 11:42.52 | mosno | trupheenix: i'd even rename home (ie. to trupheenix) |
| 11:42.54 | abrotman | really wonders why the heck you need an equalizer and/or mixer |
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| 11:43.20 | trupheenix | mosno, wokay :) tx now i shall boot out of live lxde to installed lxde lenny :) |
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| 11:48.04 | toshiba510cdt | cahoot, how do you play an audio cd with ecaosund, what about the sound mixer and equalizer? |
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| 11:51.05 | toshiba510cdt | so far the best cd player (for those running lenny without X ) i could found is tcd which is great and has a very clean and user friendly interface |
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| 11:55.49 | YarmI | when i do 'apt-get install php5' it installs apache and loads of junk. Does 'apt-get remove php5' reverse the entire process removing all 'dependancies' that were downloaded? |
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| 11:56.08 | abrotman | you probably want to use aptitude .. but apt-get should also do it |
| 11:56.24 | yang | Is it normal that iceweasel crashes everytime I browse some website (for example gmail) ? |
| 11:57.26 | abrotman | no |
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| 11:59.11 | mosno | YarmI: use aptitude |
| 11:59.55 | YarmI | to late now ive done apt-get remove, and i guess im stuck with all those things as php5 is removed but i stil got apache directories on here |
| 12:00.30 | YarmI | oh well its a linode so i guess i can just trash it all and start again |
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| 12:01.02 | YarmI | i should have paid attention to what apt was fetching |
| 12:01.15 | mosno | YarmI: there's a log in /var/log |
| 12:01.28 | abrotman | YarmI: you should ask them, not #debian |
| 12:01.37 | YarmI | ask who? |
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| 12:01.53 | abrotman | YarmI: the support for linode |
| 12:02.06 | YarmI | what i wanted to know if there is a way to reverse an apt-get install |
| 12:02.30 | abrotman | this is not a general apt channel, this channel is to support Debian users |
| 12:03.35 | mosno | abrotman: wouldn't he be running debian as a xen guest? |
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| 12:03.45 | abrotman | that's not what he said |
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| 12:04.43 | walvarez | hi, i've updated lenny to squeeze and now my pen drive is not mounted automagically. Is this a known bug? |
| 12:05.23 | mosno | where's the "why would you upgrade to sqeeze?" dpkg factoid.... |
| 12:05.52 | walvarez | cause i always use testing branch |
| 12:07.08 | mosno | walvarez: well you should know to check BTS then eh? |
| 12:07.41 | walvarez | mosno: BTS? |
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| 12:08.21 | mosno | walvarez: you shouldn't be running testing. |
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| 12:10.28 | walvarez | mosno, yeap i know that issue is cause i'm on testing, but i like recents versions that testing has :P |
| 12:10.50 | bungley | anyone know if there's a convenient python API for .deb files? |
| 12:11.11 | walvarez | mosno, so should i format and reinstall testing? |
| 12:11.40 | mosno | walvarez: testing requires some effort on the user's part |
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| 12:11.50 | bungley | so one could do stuff like apache.depends()[0] or apache.files.get("/etc/apache2/apache2.conf") |
| 12:11.58 | mosno | walvarez: if you don't know what BTS is (and you didn't even bother to google), you're in trouble |
| 12:12.05 | mosno | walvarez: stick with lenny (hell, i do) |
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| 12:12.32 | walvarez | mosno, hehehe |
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| 12:12.44 | walvarez | mosno, ok i did, BTS = Bug Track System xD |
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| 12:13.06 | lastnode | just wondering where I can get information on debian's support for the nokia e71 a a usb modem for hsdpa |
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| 12:14.47 | jpinx-eeepc | J-_: nice dns service - I'll use them as backup ;) |
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| 12:15.05 | lastnode | !nokia |
| 12:15.05 | dpkg | it has been said that nokia is a cellphone company from FINLAND, or creating some idiot software called pcsquite creating two different formats ncc and nfc which can not be interchanged easily the idiots |
| 12:15.17 | lastnode | thanks dpkg |
| 12:16.04 | cahoot | lastnode: fwiw my e51 can do this on debian |
| 12:16.06 | walvarez | mosno, thanks for your help, gonna read some logs in BTS xD |
| 12:16.29 | walvarez | mosno, cya |
| 12:16.30 | RoenieSrvr | at the end of my system's boot cycle, it says: sda: rw=0, want=290407003, limit=145223999 |
| 12:16.35 | mosno | walvarez: LENNY |
| 12:16.37 | RoenieSrvr | attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 12:16.44 | jpinx-eeepc | J-_: everydns is good, I've gone off zoneedit |
| 12:16.52 | walvarez | mosno, hehehe i'll consider ;) |
| 12:16.52 | RoenieSrvr | the message is repeated several times, with varying want=numers |
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| 12:17.13 | RoenieSrvr | what could be going on? |
| 12:17.31 | lastnode | cahoot: which packages do you use? |
| 12:18.40 | cahoot | lastnode: I don't use it - just tried for fun - no extra besides what already was in place (lenny) |
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| 12:19.52 | lastnode | cahoot: sick |
| 12:20.00 | cahoot | lastnode: me? |
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| 12:20.17 | lastnode | debian <3 |
| 12:20.37 | lastnode | should pre-release images of lenny have it too? |
| 12:20.41 | lastnode | im lazy to dl a whole new iso |
| 12:20.56 | cahoot | lastnode: at the time it was testing |
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| 12:21.15 | lastnode | cool |
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| 12:21.47 | lastnode | cahoot: you used it as a hsdpa modem, right? |
| 12:21.55 | adb | RoenieSrvr: do some google search |
| 12:22.00 | cahoot | lastnode: yes |
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| 12:22.12 | lastnode | cool |
| 12:22.28 | anoHito | i need to put a php file in /usr/sbin and make it excutable by root |
| 12:22.30 | lastnode | i have this annoying thing where my isp drops the connection whenever th ebw gets too high |
| 12:22.37 | lastnode | im trying to get around that via some bash |
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| 12:22.39 | anoHito | i need to chmod u+x it ? |
| 12:23.04 | MasterOfDisaster | seems like an update to hal or hal-info has b0rked network-manager support for my hsdpa modem - http://rafb.net/p/QK1xTN36.html (NM Output), http://pastebin.com/f5ed54be9 (lshal output) |
| 12:23.30 | MasterOfDisaster | I'm out of ideas what's wrong here... |
| 12:23.38 | RoenieSrvr | adb, sda is one of the drives in my raid 0 array (sdb is the other), it's a fakeraid array using the onboard controller. sda + sdb, 74GB raptors |
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| 12:23.59 | adb | !fakeraid |
| 12:24.00 | dpkg | A term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq> |
| 12:24.01 | cahoot | lastnode: pay you bills ;) |
| 12:24.04 | RoenieSrvr | only one partition on either drive, max size, i don't use the array under linux |
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| 12:25.09 | RoenieSrvr | fdisk -l reports sda1 as 145204471 blocks and sdb1 as 72605736 blocks |
| 12:25.23 | RoenieSrvr | looks like it thinks sdb1 is half the size it should be |
| 12:25.35 | RoenieSrvr | or sda1 is twice its size |
| 12:25.52 | lastnode | cahoot: :P lol |
| 12:25.57 | lastnode | they are jus tstupid |
| 12:25.59 | lastnode | afk |
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| 12:26.25 | RoenieSrvr | i don't have either of them in my fstab |
| 12:26.44 | RoenieSrvr | don't need them to be either |
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| 12:27.06 | sprax | I have 2 NICs in my machine attached to the same network. I can't setup teaming, homing or any other coolness because I do not control the switch. All I want is for eth0 to be the primary interface for HTTP, SSH, etc and let me bind by VirtualBox guests to eth1. All the googling I did on debian dual nic setups talking about load balancing homing. Anyone know what I need to do or read? |
| 12:27.14 | maxagaz | is there a command line to convert numbers between decimal<>binary ? |
| 12:27.34 | cahoot | bc? |
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| 12:29.39 | maxagaz | cahoot, it looks complicated for a simple conversion |
| 12:29.45 | arvind_khadri | hi, am getting the following error when i ran update http://paste.debian.net/34363/ |
| 12:30.58 | chfwiggum | maxagaz: for firefox there's an addon leet sth, if it doesn't have to be cl |
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| 12:31.06 | Caos121 | [ Hola ] |
| 12:31.10 | cahoot | maxhttp://www.go2linux.org/shell-command-convert-binary-octal-decimal-hexadecimalagaz: |
| 12:31.12 | Caos121 | CIAO A TUTTI |
| 12:31.22 | cahoot | maxagaz: http://www.go2linux.org/shell-command-convert-binary-octal-decimal-hexadecimal |
| 12:31.52 | arvind_khadri | cahoot, hi |
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| 12:33.18 | arvind_khadri | cahoot, could you help me with the problem i am facing |
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| 12:34.18 | MasterOfDisaster | sprax: what about installing vritualbox 2.2 and setting it to just use eth1 in "host interface mode"? |
| 12:34.42 | maxagaz | cahoot, chfwiggum thanks |
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| 12:35.10 | cahoot | maxagaz: echo 'obase=2;100' | bc seems rather nifty to me |
| 12:35.32 | anoHito | is it true that i should add >/dev/null 2>&1 before a crontab task to provent the mail sending ? |
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| 12:36.08 | mirak | hi |
| 12:36.16 | soar | hi |
| 12:36.16 | mirak | is there a way to build a package from a .dsc file ? |
| 12:36.23 | mirak | other than pbuilder |
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| 12:37.23 | mirak | in fact I would like to build a package from inside a pbuilder --login chroot . so I guess pbuilder is using some command to build from a .dsc files too |
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| 12:37.31 | Jimbo12 | Hi |
| 12:37.44 | Jimbo12 | i want to install xfce4 with an debian net install |
| 12:38.16 | Jimbo12 | but when i try apt-get install xfce4 i became an appendenci with xfce4-appfinder! wat do i wrong? |
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| 12:39.17 | thrashold | What's the kernel command line option to make gdm stop loading? |
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| 12:39.39 | Jimbo12 | can somebody help me? |
| 12:39.52 | thrashold | I tried '2' but it doesn't work with lenny. |
| 12:40.05 | MasterOfDisaster | thrashold: try single |
| 12:40.26 | sprax | MasterOfDisaster Im doing that now |
| 12:40.30 | sprax | the trouble is |
| 12:40.58 | anoHito | nobody helps :( |
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| 12:41.20 | MasterOfDisaster | anoHito: you could just try it... |
| 12:41.23 | sprax | both interfaces get a route for the same network, and the system seems to chose between them at random. If I down eth1, I might hang some ssh sessions, etc. |
| 12:41.38 | nkuttler | thrashold: what are you trying to do? |
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| 12:42.04 | anoHito | in debian,to excute a cron task,i should edit /etc/crontab,or use crontab -e ? |
| 12:42.18 | thrashold | Boot some Debian ARM qemu image. After two days of trying I discovered that unfortunately it tries to load X. |
| 12:42.25 | MasterOfDisaster | sprax: that's what 'metric' is for IIRC |
| 12:42.59 | MasterOfDisaster | the lower metric is, the higher the route's priority |
| 12:43.04 | nkuttler | thrashold: if you can't mount the fs you could use init=/bin/sh |
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| 12:44.05 | thrashold | Hm, yep, thanks. I thought there would be an option that could just stop gdb from loading. I was wrong. |
| 12:44.10 | thrashold | I would just download another qemu image :) |
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| 12:44.14 | thrashold | thank you :) |
| 12:44.35 | nkuttler | thrashold: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 12:45.15 | thrashold | Thanks |
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| 12:45.43 | RoenieSrvr | 's (dual core) system is a lot more responsive on lenny + kde compared to XP |
| 12:46.54 | thrashold | RoenieSrvr: You should be happy. My KDE 4.2 system is less responsive than anything I've seen in my life, even my phone. :D |
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| 12:47.36 | anoHito | i editted /etc/crontab |
| 12:47.46 | anoHito | do i need to restart crond ? |
| 12:47.46 | sprax | MasterOfDisaster so how can I change the interface metric on a route which was created when the interface came up? |
| 12:47.52 | mosno | thrashold: masochistic.. |
| 12:48.25 | RoenieSrvr | uses kde 3.5 |
| 12:48.39 | thrashold | KDE 3.5 certainly rocks :) |
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| 12:49.22 | mosno | thrashold: jah it's pretty good |
| 12:50.10 | sprax | not fans of KDE 4? |
| 12:50.34 | MasterOfDisaster | sprax: in /etc/network/interfaces -> "up ifmetric <iface> <metric>" |
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| 12:51.17 | thrashold | sprax: If I wasn't a fan, I would probably use something that worked instead. |
| 12:52.12 | sprax | man interfaces |
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| 12:56.04 | sprax | MasterOfDisaster my NICs are DHCP :(. I was thinking I could put some script in the if-up.d directory to change the metric on the route, but my googling hasn't helped me figure that out yet |
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| 12:58.02 | sprax | ifmetric may be my answer, installing now |
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| 12:59.42 | selveste1 | Hey :) I’m running Debian Lenny but when I start the XEN with xm start guest1, it start fine, and login, and connect with SSH, but when I use xm list it haves -b---- 24.4 but as I understated b = blocked but it works way is that ? |
| 12:59.45 | selveste1 | Do I have to install something on the client so it can detect that it is running ? |
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| 13:00.35 | Shadow_Master | are there any alternatives to kpowersave for KDE 3.5.x that may allow me to choose the conservative cpufreq governor too, instead of just the powersave-ondemand-perfromance trio? |
| 13:02.40 | seismic2 | hello everybody, i wanna ask a question, i am an ubuntu user and i will switch to debian, my proccessor is intel mobile and my vga card is ati xpress, are they suitable for debian ? |
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| 13:02.57 | LiCeT | hi all |
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| 13:04.07 | arvind_khadri | seismic2, yup |
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| 13:04.22 | Shadow_Master | kpowersave looks rather unmaintained upstream - v0.7.3 released on october 2007 :/ |
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| 13:04.58 | seismic2 | exactly yup? :D |
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| 13:06.44 | selveste1 | seismic2: I have an old Laptop and I have the same setup, I just have an Nvidia card - and it just works :) |
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| 13:08.17 | MasterOfDisaster | Downgrading hal-info to lenny's version didn't help with my hsdpa modem issue. |
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| 13:08.33 | seismic2 | nvidia is better than ati for linux i think |
| 13:08.59 | chfwiggum | seismic2: back in the days that was |
| 13:09.05 | liable | ati has native drivers now |
| 13:09.27 | seismic2 | i got lots of problems in ubuntu with ati xpress |
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| 13:09.44 | selveste1 | BTW. is there any news about LLVM compiler on debian like FreeBSD is considering to switch over ? |
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| 13:10.58 | Sokolas | Hello, this is me again. I have a problem: when i connect to internet through bluetooth and gprs phone, i can't run some programs |
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| 13:11.05 | Sokolas | like firefox, koopete, and others |
| 13:11.30 | lightstep | hi, i upgraded my system, and now my X isn't working (showing just a blank screen), and reconfiguring xserver-xorg does nothing |
| 13:11.37 | lightstep | is there any other thing to do? |
| 13:11.56 | lightstep | (like some default, likely-to-work config file?) |
| 13:12.08 | selveste1 | lightstep: try to remove og rename xorg.conf and start X again |
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| 13:13.16 | lightstep | it also doesn't work, and also X -configure produces a file with the same effect |
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| 13:13.45 | Sokolas | lightstep: did you look at X logfile for errors? |
| 13:13.49 | gravity | lightstep: Are you running unstable? |
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| 13:14.14 | lightstep | yes |
| 13:14.18 | lightstep | i wanted kde4 |
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| 13:14.26 | Panarchy | hi |
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| 13:14.43 | gravity | lightstep: What video driver? |
| 13:14.43 | lightstep | maybe downgrading xserver-xorg can fix this? |
| 13:14.51 | Panarchy | If anyone has the time, can you please repackage (then link to the latest libraries) the g77 Fortran Compiler? |
| 13:14.55 | lightstep | gravity, i don't know, i deleted xorg.conf |
| 13:15.12 | gravity | lightstep: What video chip? If you don't know even that, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 13:15.13 | Panarchy | where's the file? |
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| 13:15.17 | gravity | wonders what's with all these people |
| 13:15.19 | Panarchy | I'll give you mine if you like |
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| 13:16.01 | gravity | Too many incompetent people running unstable apparently |
| 13:16.53 | lightstep | i can usually handle things, its only strange problems with X that bug me. anyway, i have ati chipset, but the vesa driver used to work |
| 13:16.58 | lillis | is there a way to handle your ipod in the console |
| 13:17.01 | Sokolas | can anyone help me? when i connect to internet, some programs slow down very much: i started Kopete, and it showed its window 2 minutes after i clicked the button. same with firefox, and some others |
| 13:17.02 | lightstep | (that's what the log file says) |
| 13:17.04 | lillis | like just copying the sound files or something |
| 13:17.20 | gravity | lightstep: You can try to enable EXA instead of XAA |
| 13:17.25 | gravity | lightstep: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable |
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| 13:17.36 | selveste1 | lillis: your Ipod is in /media/ |
| 13:17.48 | lillis | my ipod is in /mnt/flash/ but that's not what I meant :P |
| 13:17.50 | gravity | lightstep: You should also try with something other than KDE, like twm, just for testing |
| 13:17.54 | lillis | I meant is it possible to just copy mp3 files over to it? |
| 13:18.11 | lillis | there are like a million of f## folders in the /music/ directory on it |
| 13:18.22 | selveste1 | I don't have an iPod but I cant se way not :P |
| 13:18.24 | Roman123 | anyone here who runs openvz on lenny? I'm trying to assign /dev/ttyUSB0 from the host system to the openvz client. So I created "mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 c 188 0" in openvz and put DEVICES="c:180:0:rw" in my openvz-configuration. But this does not work :( |
| 13:18.56 | rudi_s | lillis: gtkpod should work, no console though. |
| 13:19.06 | lillis | gtkpod doesnt like my ipod, and i dont like gtkpod |
| 13:19.08 | lillis | :/ |
| 13:19.22 | chfwiggum | lillis: try rhthmbox |
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| 13:20.01 | selveste1 | chfwiggum: thats not a consol program like he asked for :P |
| 13:20.02 | lillis | it works but not good, bugs up a lot of time, doesnt let me remove files etc |
| 13:20.12 | rudi_s | lillis: Well, you can't access the ipod directly. |
| 13:20.13 | chfwiggum | my bad |
| 13:20.22 | gravity | lightstep: Another possible issue is that you may want to force different AGP speeds. The ATI cards have trouble with that. |
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| 13:21.16 | selveste1 | lillis: have you tryed to just copy a file over? |
| 13:22.09 | lillis | selveste1: there are 100 folders in the ipod music directory |
| 13:22.12 | lillis | named f00-f99 |
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| 13:22.27 | selveste1 | try just to pick one then :S |
| 13:22.29 | lillis | when transfering music they get evenly (more or less) distributed over those dirs |
| 13:22.37 | lillis | trying to put one file in ten of them and see what happens |
| 13:22.41 | rudi_s | lillis, selveste1: This doesn't work, you need to update the "index", gtkpod does this .. |
| 13:22.59 | lillis | gtkpod won't even detect my ipod most of the time |
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| 13:23.11 | lillis | maybe that's because I don't use gnome-volume-manager or something |
| 13:23.16 | lillis | im running fluxbox |
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| 13:23.26 | rudi_s | lillis: Maybe you could ask on their mailing list so this problem can be fixed. |
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| 13:24.08 | selveste1 | lillis: what aboute Amarok ? |
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| 13:24.19 | selveste1 | is it able to se the iPod =? |
| 13:24.58 | rudi_s | lillis: Are you using the latest version of gtkpod? |
| 13:25.17 | lillis | the latest one in the stable release |
| 13:26.15 | lillis | gonna try amarok |
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| 13:26.37 | chfwiggum | lillis: try rhythmbox satisfaction guranteed |
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| 13:27.16 | lillis | already tried rhythmbox |
| 13:27.23 | lillis | it wont let met copy files to it, or delete old files |
| 13:27.27 | chfwiggum | bummer |
| 13:27.28 | lillis | works 20% of the time |
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| 13:28.16 | rudi_s | lillis: Because they use gtkpod (well libpod), more information here: http://www.gtkpod.org/libgpod/ |
| 13:28.28 | rudi_s | lillis: Try building the latest version. |
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| 13:29.02 | lillis | will do, thanks for the tip |
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| 13:29.50 | bluethundr | guys.. still getting errors when trying to access mysql db machine from stage |
| 13:29.52 | bluethundr | bluethundr@stage:~$ mysql -uwebdevguy -pwebdevguypass --host=192.168.1.9 |
| 13:29.54 | bluethundr | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'webdevguy'@'stage.alpha.beezag.com' (using password: YES) |
| 13:30.00 | rudi_s | lillis: You could also try the Subversion sources. |
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| 13:32.13 | lolufail | hi there! |
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| 13:33.33 | lolufail | I have a problem with the lighttpd init script. stop doesnt stop lighttpd, and everything else throws that the post 80 is already in use (reload, restart, force-reload) |
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| 13:38.17 | MasterOfDisaster | ksksls |
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| 13:49.56 | hulo | hello, is ext4 relatively stable on debian sid for home use? |
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| 13:50.57 | cahoot | a definite maybe |
| 13:51.24 | hulo | thanks, supposedly |
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| 13:52.08 | doleyb | hulo: its more likely you'd have an application which is less stable with ext4, than the fs itself being poor |
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| 13:54.10 | Eulex | !tell hulo iyhtays |
| 13:54.17 | Eulex | !tell hulo about iyhtays |
| 13:55.05 | hulo | Eulex: a perfectly legitimate question |
| 13:55.23 | hulo | Eulex: please explain your actions |
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| 13:56.38 | cahoot | hulo: consider your question: is ext4 relatively stable on debian sid for home use? - what kind of answer would you expect? |
| 13:57.39 | mirak | what is the standart place to create a debian repository on is own filesystem ? |
| 13:58.04 | hulo | cahoot: technically not something that warrant an 'if you have to ask, you shouldn't' response |
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| 13:58.30 | hulo | i can think of a plethora of reasons to use that smartass quip, this not being one of em |
| 13:59.14 | cahoot | hulo: try it out on a prtition for not-so-valuable data? |
| 13:59.17 | hulo | Eulex' silence is deafening |
| 14:00.12 | cahoot | hulo: your wife might be disappointed if your marriagephotos got extinct |
| 14:01.33 | mmind | my two cents: it's in the mainline kernel, and it's basically an incremental change from ext3, so there shouldn't be any surprises. but ymmv |
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| 14:06.16 | hulo | yep. i doubt i'll stress it enough to uncover any bugs. I just needed the reassurance |
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| 14:06.36 | hexoroid | How do I convert the CharCode to the actual character? |
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| 14:10.29 | mechwarrior | hi. |
| 14:10.44 | mechwarrior | i was told debian is better and more stable that fedora. |
| 14:10.51 | c-square | Hi all, I installed the samba package and share a folder which is in fact an svn folder. Each time I try to access that folder from windows I get [2009/04/25 16:08:46, 0] param/loadparm.c:process_usershare_file(8282) process_usershare_file: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/.svn failed. No such file or directory and the machine seems to lock. I did not define any usershares |
| 14:10.56 | mechwarrior | soooo.. i got it, and they were right. |
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| 14:11.06 | mechwarrior | i only have one minor problem. |
| 14:11.19 | abrotman | one? |
| 14:11.20 | mechwarrior | my wifi option does not seem to work. |
| 14:11.29 | abrotman | mechwarrior: which wifi is it? |
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| 14:11.56 | mechwarrior | i cant connect via wifi, i see the option for it. im running under the gnome desktop atm |
| 14:12.12 | mechwarrior | how can i find out what wifi im using? |
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| 14:12.22 | ballessay | lspci? |
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| 14:12.29 | abrotman | mechwarrior: lspci or lsusb |
| 14:12.34 | rjune_ | Where can I find some short examples on how to work with libapt-pkg? |
| 14:12.37 | mechwarrior | it should work as under fedora it worked fine. |
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| 14:12.45 | PrebenR | how do one prevent modules from being loaded at startup? |
| 14:12.46 | abrotman | mechwarrior: it might require firmware you don't have yet |
| 14:12.48 | mechwarrior | ispci |
| 14:12.52 | abrotman | !tell PrebenR about blacklist |
| 14:12.58 | abrotman | mechwarrior: L not I |
| 14:13.01 | Manoj | mechwarrior: it will. We just have to make sure it is getting any firmware that it needs |
| 14:13.17 | mechwarrior | aah. |
| 14:13.33 | PrebenR | if I want to load the module later manually I can if it is in blacklist? |
| 14:13.48 | liable | yes |
| 14:14.19 | PrebenR | and blacklist works for all modules? |
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| 14:14.48 | mechwarrior | under fedora, i needed to enable it. in order for it to work . would it be the same case in debian? |
| 14:15.02 | schone_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.03 | mechwarrior | discovered it by accident. lol |
| 14:15.08 | PrebenR | on my asus Eee I have about 30 modules loaded, but after rmmoding all that could be rmmod I was left with 5 |
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| 14:15.21 | PrebenR | so I have a lot of thing loaded i don't need |
| 14:15.32 | simNIX | chmod 777 on a folder is IMHO bad practice ... |
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| 14:16.18 | schone_ | simNIX: ah ok |
| 14:16.30 | simNIX | eventhough it should show files in it ... |
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| 14:16.56 | schone_ | well it does when i ssh into my file server i can see it. however through windows I can't |
| 14:17.05 | vi390 | I want to learn how to create chroot environments with images. Is there any usable working tutorial for that |
| 14:17.15 | PrebenR | abrotman, sorry didn't see your info befoe rnow. Newbie when it comes to IRC. Thanks that helped! |
| 14:17.18 | simNIX | ... if you make files and directory's there owned by person that should read/write then 755 on folders and 644 on files works |
| 14:17.33 | simNIX | if you do 777 anyone can read.write/execute |
| 14:17.48 | schone_ | so it should be coming up in everything has 777 |
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| 14:18.44 | simNIX | your loggin in from windows with putty as same user as you login from file srveR ? |
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| 14:19.11 | schone_ | setting 644 on the files worked |
| 14:19.16 | simNIX | ok |
| 14:19.16 | schone_ | and 755 on the folder worked |
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| 14:19.44 | schone_ | is there a way to automatically do that for all directories and sub directories and then files in those sub directories |
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| 14:20.51 | simNIX | schone_, im also curious to that - I dont know how yet |
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| 14:21.02 | mmind | there is a way using find, but i don't remember exactly |
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| 14:21.52 | mmind | something like `find . -type d -exec chmod 755 ; find -type f -exec chmod 644 ;` but i don't think that's exactly the line |
| 14:22.02 | Eulex | hulo, afkness is deafening? |
| 14:22.14 | tczern | how can I look for software? I searched http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages for Ardour and it cannot find it, thanks! |
| 14:22.34 | rudi_s | mmind, schone_: -exec chmod 755 '{}' \; |
| 14:22.38 | rsfs | schone_ use the -R option |
| 14:22.46 | pa7iQ | hi is it possible (and how?) to play alsa audio with different users simultaniously? software mixing works but with only 1 user at a time. |
| 14:22.59 | liable | tczern: packages.debian.org |
| 14:23.01 | module000 | tczern: if you are looking for software in the debian repositories..you can use "apt-cache search foo", or any of the other dpkg-related tools |
| 14:23.01 | rudi_s | rsfs: Doens't work as it chmods files and directories. |
| 14:23.01 | rsfs | -R option goes through all directories and files under the input directory |
| 14:23.06 | liable | !hi |
| 14:23.06 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 14:23.16 | tczern | thanks! |
| 14:23.29 | liable | tczern: also, /msg dpkg search |
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| 14:23.37 | rsfs | rudi_s if you have a directory tmp and you use chmod -R 755 tmp all files and directories inside will be changed |
| 14:23.45 | schone_ | rudi_s: how does that for directories? |
| 14:23.57 | mechwarrior | ok since this was a windows laptop, would it make sence to download the wreless drivers from windows? will this solve my problems? |
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| 14:24.10 | rudi_s | rsfs: True, but files don't need to be 0755. |
| 14:24.38 | module000 | mechwarrior: no |
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| 14:24.57 | simNIX | mechwarrior, if there are driver natively for Linux best use them - only use windows drivers as a last resort (not most stable) |
| 14:24.58 | rsfs | rudi_s what do the files need to be? |
| 14:24.59 | tczern | packages.debian.org finds gimp, but not ardour, how is that possible? |
| 14:25.04 | abrotman | mechwarrior: which wireless card is it? |
| 14:25.12 | rudi_s | schone_: Use the line from mmind, but there was a '{}' missing after chmod (it's replaced by the filename by find, see man find). |
| 14:25.24 | rudi_s | rsfs: 0644, otherwise they are executable. |
| 14:25.45 | rudi_s | rsfs: Which is most of the time not necessary, except for executables of course. |
| 14:25.46 | dimedo | does anyone know how one could add further encryption options into the debian installer? i want to be able to select XTS mode for full disk encryption |
| 14:26.07 | mechwarrior | oops. |
| 14:26.23 | c-square | any ideas why I keep getting couldn't find service .svn (I have a .svn folder in my shares) on a samba share? |
| 14:26.31 | rsfs | rudi_s true wanted to change and why? sorry, I guess I got that in the middle |
| 14:26.45 | abrotman | mechwarrior: if you tell us which device it is, we can help more |
| 14:26.48 | mechwarrior | i just installed the bundles wireless drivers from windows. and it just enabled my wifi. :( |
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| 14:26.57 | mechwarrior | shoulda asked first. |
| 14:26.59 | module000 | c-square: are you asking us to tell you proper find syntax? or troubleshoot why it does not exist? |
| 14:27.02 | abrotman | duh |
| 14:27.11 | rudi_s | rsfs: He wants to make his files/directories accessible, so 0755 directories, 644 for files should work. |
| 14:27.11 | mechwarrior | but it looks like it is working now under debian. |
| 14:27.25 | rudi_s | schone_: Does it work? |
| 14:27.32 | at0m | rsfs, something like "find /dir -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \;" for all dirs would be more appropriate |
| 14:27.33 | mechwarrior | im unsure, so i will look at it and find out for you. |
| 14:27.34 | simNIX | mechwarrior, Linux can in essence support any wireless card - problem lies in some manufacturers not willing to give info ob how to talk to certain cards .. |
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| 14:27.55 | mechwarrior | ok. |
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| 14:28.45 | at0m | rsfs, for files, something like ""find /dir -type f -exec chmod 664 {} \;"" |
| 14:29.14 | rsfs | rudi_s you have to take care, it is possible that samba's options actually controls the access |
| 14:29.21 | asusu | hello. anyone using xen on lenny/amd64? I can't seem to get it to boot, gives me grub error 13. |
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| 14:30.37 | rsfs | at0m, I don't know samba configuration very well, it is for samba isn't it? |
| 14:30.41 | rudi_s | rsfs: Samba? I thought he uses SSH to login. |
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| 14:30.43 | rsfs | at0m, shared directories? |
| 14:30.44 | mechwarrior | if i go to the toshiba web site, and look up the specs for the wifi will it tell me there what kind of wifi card it is using ? |
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| 14:31.01 | rsfs | rudi_s, and inside of ssh he is not able to access files to do what with them? |
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| 14:31.28 | rsfs | rudi_s at0m, sorry, if the command will work or not I cannot tell, could test it quickly tho |
| 14:31.30 | mechwarrior | because the information in in my device manager simply say internal pci wifi card. |
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| 14:31.49 | simNIX | at0m, interesting fix - interesting - on last one with files I asume you meen 644 ? |
| 14:31.53 | mechwarrior | no brand name. |
| 14:31.55 | rudi_s | rsfs: Read/List I think. |
| 14:32.10 | at0m | rsfs, it's a line for changing rights of just files or dirs. set 600 and 700 if you want eh |
| 14:32.13 | cahoot | mechwarrior: lspci and google the pciid? |
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| 14:33.21 | rsfs | rudi_s at0m, it worked |
| 14:33.25 | mechwarrior | ok. |
| 14:33.35 | rsfs | rudi_s at0m, just the files have been changed, directories still 755 |
| 14:33.41 | mechwarrior | i will come back when i find out the name of the card. |
| 14:34.25 | at0m | simNIX, 775 and 664 is what i use in a cron job for my music dir. they're owned by a group of users who can rw there. |
| 14:34.36 | simNIX | clear |
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| 14:34.47 | cahoot | mechwarrior: the name is less interesting than the chipset - the pciid will help you find that out |
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| 14:35.18 | asusu | hello. anyone using xen on lenny/amd64? I can't seem to get it to boot, gives me grub error 13, after doing apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 and rebooting into new kernel. |
| 14:35.37 | rsfs | what does {} \; in the case? ; maybe end of command? |
| 14:35.42 | at0m | rsfs, make sure they dir's are writeable in the first place, so at least 700 when you run the line. |
| 14:35.53 | ootput | mechwarrior: you can pass pciids to a webpage that generates any matching modules, though i foget the link |
| 14:36.02 | at0m | s/they dirs/the dirs |
| 14:36.03 | rsfs | asusu, check your /boot/grub/menu.lst file |
| 14:36.26 | mechwarrior | wow. |
| 14:36.27 | mechwarrior | ok., |
| 14:36.37 | asusu | rsfs I did, do you mean to check something special? new kernel *is* selected to boot, but booting doesn't work. |
| 14:36.38 | mechwarrior | im using the Atheros® Wireless LAN (802.11b/g) <-- |
| 14:36.43 | rsfs | asusu, it must be a problem with the new partition description (hd0,0) which partition do you have your linux in? |
| 14:36.48 | mechwarrior | would this help? |
| 14:37.18 | asusu | rsfs, but all the other amd64 kernels I have boot ok. Is it an issue with xen/amd64/linux partition/grub? |
| 14:37.24 | module000 | mechwarrior: you need ath5k |
| 14:37.32 | asusu | rsfs, wait I'll look |
| 14:37.33 | rsfs | at0m, thanks but I do not have the problem, I am just trying to understand the command and trying to take part in the conversation :-P |
| 14:37.35 | ootput | mechwarrior: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 14:37.55 | rsfs | asusu, send me in a pvt the lines to the older kernels and the lines to the new |
| 14:38.06 | merlin83_ | should i have only a single repository or multiple repositories i.e. stable/sid/testing in my /etc/apt/sources.list ? ii.e. are the repositories mutually exclusive ? i have some programs e.g. pgsql / python that i'd like from sid/testing branch, but other apps that i'd rather only update from stable |
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| 14:39.01 | at0m | rsfs, oh :) saw you giving weird hint (chmod -R 755 /dir) and wanted to hint on differentiating between "-type d" dirs and "-type f" files |
| 14:39.12 | rsfs | at0m, what are the {} and \ for and couldn't I use pipe instead of exec? |
| 14:39.15 | ootput | asusu: pastebin it, in case rsfs has any other responsibilities to tend to |
| 14:39.18 | ootput | ;) |
| 14:39.34 | asusu | rsfs: all kernels I have are setup to to boot into (hd0,0), or /dev/sda1. my kernels installed are: 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64, 2.6.26-2-amd64, 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64, and 2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 14:39.35 | rsfs | at0m, ahh nice |
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| 14:39.50 | ootput | asusu: is that a futurama reference, btw? |
| 14:40.06 | asusu | what? my nick? |
| 14:40.14 | c-square | hi guys have you ever seen, could not find service .svn within the samba logs? |
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| 14:40.26 | c-square | when I create a .test folder there is not issue |
| 14:40.28 | at0m | rsfs, took that straight from the example in the manual |
| 14:40.32 | at0m | reads again |
| 14:40.34 | rsfs | asusu, could you maybe paste everything? |
| 14:40.43 | asusu | rsfs, what exactly you want ? |
| 14:40.54 | asusu | my complete kernel list as displayed in menu.lst ? |
| 14:40.54 | rsfs | at0m, ahh, but nice, it is from find command, -type d -type f, nice to know |
| 14:40.58 | mechwarrior | hmm. |
| 14:41.04 | rsfs | asusu, the whole lines from title till end |
| 14:41.10 | c-square | when I create .svn I have locks of the clients I see .svn appearing in could not find service .svn |
| 14:41.15 | mechwarrior | it says it should work in my os? |
| 14:41.16 | asusu | ok, one sec pls rsfs |
| 14:41.21 | rsfs | asusu, from a working one and from the non-working |
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| 14:41.33 | mechwarrior | should i try a full reboot to see it will come up? |
| 14:41.53 | olspookishmagus | hello... is anyone aware of any text-to-speech package? |
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| 14:42.13 | module000 | olspookishmagus: google is |
| 14:42.34 | olspookishmagus | module000: wow, a truly helpful responce |
| 14:42.36 | rsfs | does anyone know any nice thin windows theme for gnome? |
| 14:42.49 | mechwarrior | 168c001c Yes Atheros Communications Inc.AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter ath5k v2.6.25- is the result. |
| 14:43.10 | module000 | olspookishmagus: we don't hold hands. the *first* link from linux text 2 speech has your info. |
| 14:43.12 | rsfs | I mean thin borders |
| 14:43.26 | mechwarrior | the yes is the part where it confirms it does work on my laptop . |
| 14:43.38 | mechwarrior | let me look in to it more. |
| 14:43.42 | mechwarrior | laters. |
| 14:44.06 | olspookishmagus | module000: did you pay any attention to my question? I asked for a text-to-speech package... |
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| 14:44.30 | olspookishmagus | as if there isn't any I might make one for Debian |
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| 14:44.38 | IListenU | screen: http://parduoduv.puslapiai.lt where's problem in my debian? |
| 14:44.52 | asusu | rsfs: http://paste.debian.net/34369 |
| 14:45.00 | asusu | rsfs the non-xen kernels boot perfect |
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| 14:45.07 | codeshepherd | i get the following error while on "apt-get -f install" ..... E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6 |
| 14:45.11 | module000 | olspookishmagus, aka lazy bum...what you are lookin gfor is: apt-cache search festival | more |
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| 14:46.30 | olspookishmagus | that would be containing more options -> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-accessibility/software |
| 14:46.30 | rsfs | asusu, I know it must be there but to be sure, are the files in the /boot directories, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 and /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 14:47.18 | rsfs | asusu, what is a xen kernel (curious) |
| 14:47.46 | asusu | rsfs: yes, and file <file> says it's a gzip compressed data, for both vmlinuz and initrd |
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| 14:48.14 | [4-tea-2] | rsfs: that's a kernel prepared to work better with Xen, a virtualization software. |
| 14:48.27 | asusu | yes, that's it |
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| 14:48.53 | rsfs | asusu, I don't think the other vmlinuz are compressed, they shouldn't be compressed, it might work if you uncompress them |
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| 14:48.55 | asusu | well, not really 4-tea-2. the xen kernel is *the* xen software, isn't it? |
| 14:49.16 | rsfs | 4-tea-2, what does it virtualize? |
| 14:49.26 | jak | hello, I was wondering how/where I should set the local_interfaces option with exim4. I tried setting dc_local_interfaces in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf but that's just ignored as far as I can tell, I've grepped for it in the multi-file config and it's nowhere to be seen. |
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| 14:49.44 | rsfs | asusu, they really shouldn't be compressed |
| 14:50.05 | asusu | rsfs: can you do just a apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 to see if it boots for you? |
| 14:50.15 | rsfs | asusu, how did you get them? can you tell me how they are explicitly written I can tell how you uncrompress them |
| 14:50.26 | asusu | rsfs: apt-get install |
| 14:50.28 | [4-tea-2] | asusu: not sure, I don't use Xen. They could as well be optimized to run as a guest. |
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| 14:50.52 | rsfs | asusu, paste here how the file is called, if you uncrompress them it should work |
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| 14:51.19 | asusu | ops, wait maybe the linux-image I'm using is the domU, instead of dom0 |
| 14:51.43 | rsfs | asusu, my repositories don't have it |
| 14:52.00 | asusu | rsfs don't have what? |
| 14:52.07 | rsfs | asusu, that linux image |
| 14:52.19 | mamagery | hi guys. so here is the new problem: i've installed debian successfully and i'm already using it with wireless connection. but after using it for 10 minutes, it just freezes everything. i've discovered that its my wireless drivers that freezes debian, and the only way to stop freezing is using "windows" drivers on it. but i don't know how to do it... and now? |
| 14:52.25 | asusu | try apt-get install linux-image. If you're using amd64 it should give you the list |
| 14:52.28 | rsfs | apt-get install linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 no package |
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| 14:54.47 | rsfs | mamagery, there is a linux driver which lets you use linux drivers on top of it I guess it is called ndis-wrapper or something |
| 14:54.53 | rsfs | mamagery, that's what you have to try |
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| 14:55.26 | mirak | hi |
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| 14:55.37 | asusu | rsfs: I think I'm missing xen-hypervisor for amd64 |
| 14:55.43 | rsfs | asusu, I'm using a 32 bit processor |
| 14:55.56 | mirak | is there a tool that copy at right place the debs in a repository style like $REPOSITORY/pool/a/afoobarpackage ? |
| 14:56.33 | mirak | the tools I found like apt-move seems to replicate mirrors only |
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| 14:56.47 | mamagery | rsfs: hm, I read about that... so the thing is download this and I'm saved? well, let's check that |
| 14:56.49 | rsfs | asusu, couldn't you send me exactly how the files look like inside of /boot? |
| 14:57.15 | rsfs | mamagery, you have to configure it somehow that it loads the driver you want on top of it |
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| 14:57.56 | rsfs | mamagery, but take a look about it in the internet |
| 14:58.07 | asusu | rsfs: It's booting Ok now, I was missing xen-hypervisor-*-amd64, in addition to linux-image-*-xen-amd64 |
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| 14:59.04 | rfajardo | lost connection whatever why |
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| 14:59.17 | asusu | rsfs: thanks for helping |
| 14:59.19 | rfajardo | asusu, what does that hypervisor mean? I installed the normal one you told me and I get no compressed files |
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| 15:00.24 | asusu | rfajardo: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-i386 |
| 15:00.49 | asusu | rfajardo: you got to boot lenny xen by just installing the kernel image? |
| 15:01.29 | rfajardo | didn't try |
| 15:01.37 | rfajardo | asusu, you probably needed it |
| 15:01.48 | rfajardo | asusu, as it seems from the description of the package you sent to me |
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| 15:02.08 | rfajardo | everyone, does anyone know a nice gnome theme for thin border windows? |
| 15:02.17 | sylar | some one asked me what driver do I need for my NIC |
| 15:02.59 | sylar | lspci for my NIC is : 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) |
| 15:03.15 | sylar | in latest kernel there is driver |
| 15:03.35 | sylar | but what do I answer to 'what driver does it need"? |
| 15:03.42 | sylar | are there driver names? |
| 15:03.53 | idimmu | lsmod gives you a list of drivers |
| 15:03.57 | idimmu | installed |
| 15:04.08 | idimmu | why do they need to know? |
| 15:04.20 | idimmu | if its in the default kernel, 99.99% of the time, who gives a shit? :) |
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| 15:05.12 | rfajardo | sylar, no, it might be loaded as a module in which case it would be listed by lsmod (as long as a lot of other modules) or it might be compiled in the kernel so you won't even see it in lsmod list |
| 15:05.24 | liable | sylar: atl1e |
| 15:05.34 | rfajardo | sylar, but that's seldom the case when you use distribution kernels |
| 15:06.02 | asusu | rfajardo: yes, it seems |
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| 15:06.54 | rfajardo | asusu, I didn't try without it, I can't tell |
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| 15:07.40 | asusu | rfajardo: it does not work, I can tell you |
| 15:07.46 | asusu | need both |
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| 15:07.54 | sylar | rfajardo, , liable thanks |
| 15:08.44 | rfajardo | everyone uses gnome standard theme here? |
| 15:08.51 | mamagery | rsfs: I already did, the thing is download ndiswrapper... but I can't do it using synaptics on gui mode because it freezes after I connect |
| 15:09.22 | mamagery | rsfs: can you gimme a few tips on connecting my wireless connection using only the command line? |
| 15:09.23 | rfajardo | mamagery, type ctrl+alt+f1 log in, use aptitude install ndiswrapper |
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| 15:10.08 | OpenTokix | is there a dpkg-article about how to pull one package from sid to lenny? (Cacti) |
| 15:10.09 | rfajardo | sorry, alt+f7 to come back |
| 15:10.11 | rfajardo | hehe |
| 15:10.13 | mamagery | rfajardo: yes, I know that's the way, but I never connected using command line before. Thanks anyway :> |
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| 15:10.32 | liable | OpenTokix: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 15:10.39 | rfajardo | hmm mamagery |
| 15:10.56 | rfajardo | mamagery, you are connected aren't you? I don't quite understand what you want |
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| 15:11.25 | mamagery | I'm not. Because I'm not in gnome, i needed to reboot and enter in single-user mode, only with command line. |
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| 15:11.54 | mamagery | rfajardo: the thing is: if I connect using gui, debian freezes, its a bug about my wireless driver, already searched internet |
| 15:11.55 | rfajardo | mamagery, it is a wireless connection, you need to configure linux software, iwconfig or network-manager to connect using ndiswrapper |
| 15:12.23 | mamagery | and the only way to solve is to use windows drivers, which i need to download, but debian freezes if i try to connect using gui, so i need to do this using command line |
| 15:12.30 | rfajardo | mamagery, the way to work it out is to substitude the driver by ndiswrapper+windows driver isn't it? |
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| 15:12.44 | mamagery | yes rfajardo :) |
| 15:12.55 | asusu | mamagery: try this: http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper |
| 15:13.14 | rfajardo | mamagery, so you are irc from the command line already? |
| 15:13.22 | mamagery | the only thing is that when i'm command line, i don't know how can i connect to my access point, since it doesnt connect by itself :< |
| 15:13.30 | mamagery | rfajardo: this is another computer :P |
| 15:13.31 | rfajardo | mamagery, you can use wget to download files from internet out of the command line |
| 15:13.43 | liable | mamagery: what card is this, that the native driver is freezing your system? |
| 15:13.51 | mamagery | my debian computer isnt connected, only this ubuntu one :S |
| 15:14.16 | rfajardo | mamagery, for the package you could use this other computer to download the package and install it then using dpkg-buildpackage |
| 15:14.16 | MindCr | hi, how can i configure my soundcard without alsaconf ? |
| 15:14.38 | asusu | mamagery: and this: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 15:14.43 | mamagery | liable: its a DLINK DWA-547 (http://www.clickemporio.com.br/loja/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/PLACA_PCI_D_LINK_49ca440251c13.jpg) |
| 15:15.01 | mamagery | asusu: thanks, i'll give a check |
| 15:15.11 | liable | mamagery: what kernel module is it using? |
| 15:15.50 | hjb | meta-k |
| 15:16.02 | rfajardo | mamagery, try the following: turn your debian computer on, go to the command line, switch gdm off, connect to the internet using the old driver, download ndiswrapper and install it using aptitude |
| 15:16.06 | hjb | sorry, wrong channel |
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| 15:17.40 | mamagery | liable: 2.6.28 |
| 15:18.09 | mamagery | rfajardo: gdm...? gnome driver manager? |
| 15:18.28 | rfajardo | mamagery, gnome desktop manager or something like that |
| 15:18.37 | mamagery | oh |
| 15:18.41 | rfajardo | mamagery, /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 15:19.16 | mamagery | well, gotta try this on the other computer, wait a sec. |
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| 15:19.58 | rfajardo | man, there are more problems running in this channel than I imagined it would |
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| 15:23.15 | liable | mamagery: i meant the module for the wireless card. not the kernel version. if you are running a 2.6.28 kernel, then you smust be running sid, and it now has a 2.6.29 kernel, so i suggest you upgrade that before you bother with ndiswrapper. the driver could quite possibly be fixed.. you are running debian, not ubuntu? |
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| 15:27.05 | [4-tea-2] | Does anybody happen to know why Gnome applications seem to put their configs in .config, .gnome2, .gnome2_private, .gconf and .gconfd? Historical reasons? |
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| 15:29.08 | abrotman | [4-tea-2]: you mean instead of one place? or instead of like ~/.<gnome-app> ? |
| 15:29.13 | rsfs | 4-tea-2, most applications put its user configuration in directories like this, it has always been like that |
| 15:29.37 | [4-tea-2] | abrotman: yeah, I wonder why they didn't stick to one or two folders. |
| 15:29.40 | rsfs | or did I misunderstood something here? |
| 15:29.48 | rsfs | ahmm |
| 15:30.00 | abrotman | [4-tea-2]: probably different points in history |
| 15:30.51 | [4-tea-2] | abrotman: perhaps also related to that unified desktop thingie that Gnome and KDE have going on? They're working on better interoperability, right? |
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| 15:30.59 | abrotman | hopefully |
| 15:31.34 | juice` | any idea how to force make-kpkg to notices changes i made in .config, so it can recreate kernel image .deb package? after i changed something in .config, and i do make kernel_image again, it doesn't do anything, because it thinks everything is already done. i mean other way than doing make-kpkg clean |
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| 15:32.15 | [4-tea-2] | abrotman: I'm only bothering about it, because I want to share some, but not all, of my configuration between two desktop systems. Having so many folders to consider makes that harder. ;) |
| 15:32.43 | abrotman | oh |
| 15:32.45 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: make-kpkg clean |
| 15:33.03 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: worked for me every single time |
| 15:33.08 | mamagery | liable: actually I'm running a modified version of lenny. |
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| 15:33.21 | mamagery | and I don't know the module for the wireless card. |
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| 15:33.46 | mamagery | maybe its better to use normal lenny with ndiswrapper? |
| 15:33.55 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: for my personal documentation, I also use --revision $HOSTNAME.<seqNum> and increase seqNum for every new build. |
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| 15:34.39 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: but I really don't think that would "make-kpkg clean" work harder or better :) |
| 15:34.48 | juice` | [4-tea-2]: but this forces the make-kpkg to remake everything, and if i for example want to add just one small module? |
| 15:34.49 | rsfs | mamagery, it will probably not change a thing |
| 15:35.03 | smacnay | I am trying to run subtitleeditor on a file but get this error for sound - missing gstreamer plugin for audio/x-gst-fourcc-ms decoder - in which gstreamer package is this? I think I have most installed (I am in Deb sid). |
| 15:35.19 | mamagery | liable: it's a modified version with kernel version 2.6.28 + WPA support + Ubuntu linux-firmware |
| 15:35.22 | rsfs | mamagery, I mean, the driver will probably not change spite of lenny or something else so you will have to deal with the problem anyways |
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| 15:35.39 | liable | mamagery: no, upgrade to the 29 kernel first, using a windows driver in linux is horrible |
| 15:35.39 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: yeah, I got used to that, I figured they had good reason for that behaviour. |
| 15:35.49 | juice` | [4-tea-2]: it takes a lot of time to compile on my box. without make-kpkg you can do just make modules and make modules_install |
| 15:35.59 | liable | mamagery: why on earth are you using ubuntu firmware? |
| 15:36.11 | chfwiggum | sox: klinsmann sucks.he played 4-5-1 in such an important match. no wonder they won't make goals. he's history. |
| 15:36.15 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: not all dependencies between kernel and modules might be visible to the build mechanism, so cleaning the whole tree might just be a safety measure. |
| 15:36.22 | liable | mamagery: and the kernel has nothing to do with WPA support |
| 15:36.35 | juice` | [4-tea-2]: ok i see, so there is no hack to overcome this? |
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| 15:36.47 | [4-tea-2] | juice`: there might be, but I'm not aware of one |
| 15:37.10 | rsfs | good bye people |
| 15:37.14 | rsfs | see you another day |
| 15:37.18 | lillis | ta ta |
| 15:37.26 | rsfs | mamagery, good luck! |
| 15:37.42 | juice` | [4-tea-2]: ok, thanks for the info |
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| 15:40.10 | mamagery | liable: actually this pre-located firmware installs linux-firmware if my d-i detects my computer needs it. |
| 15:40.33 | mamagery | liable: this modified version of lenny wasnt made by me: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 15:40.57 | mamagery | yesterday i came here and people told me to use this modified version if I wanted to use my debian with wireless connection |
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| 15:42.13 | liable | mamagery: ok, yep, kmuto does use ubuntu firmware. but before you bother with ndiswrapper, download a sid 2.6.29 kernel deb and install it and see if it fixes your problem. |
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| 15:42.55 | mamagery | liable: does it help if i say to you that i already tried ubuntu with 2.6.29 and this problem persisted? |
| 15:43.28 | abrotman | mamagery: you have ath9k right? |
| 15:43.48 | liable | ath9k doesnt need firmware though |
| 15:44.14 | liable | mamagery: what makes you sure its the wifi causing kernel lockups? |
| 15:45.04 | abrotman | but it's not in lenny's .26 |
| 15:45.22 | mamagery | liable: this computer is somewhat new, i already tried ubuntu on it, and it was freezing as debian is now. and the problem was the wifi driver. |
| 15:45.31 | mamagery | i can play on debian for 5 hours without freezing |
| 15:45.41 | mamagery | if I connect to wifi, freezes. |
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| 15:45.52 | mamagery | it was the same on ubuntu, exactly the same. |
| 15:46.24 | mamagery | maybe I'm wrong, but thinking in a logical way, I think it's the same problem. |
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| 15:46.48 | smacnay | Should one use the gstreamer-fluendo plugins or the -ugly? |
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| 15:48.59 | nkuttler | mamagery: are you sure the box is locked? is it connected to a wired network? |
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| 15:50.24 | mamagery | nkuttler: yes, everything freezes, I can't even turn on Num Lock or Caps Lock, and the mouse doesn't move either. It isn't connected to a wired network, only wireless. |
| 15:51.04 | jak | hello, I was wondering how/where I should set the local_interfaces option with exim4. I tried setting dc_local_interfaces in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf but that's just ignored as far as I can tell, I've grepped for it in the multi-file config and it's nowhere to be seen |
| 15:51.35 | nkuttler | mamagery: check wireless.kernel.org, maybe it's known and already patched |
| 15:51.57 | format_c | jak, dc_use_split_config='true' is the statement in that file |
| 15:52.18 | mamagery | nkuttler: going to check this out, thank you |
| 15:52.40 | petemc | jak: local_interfaces is for which interfaces to listen on, if you want to configure which interface to use for outgoing mail, set interface = 1.2.3.4 on the remote smtp transport |
| 15:53.49 | jak | format_c/petemc: that's exactly what I'm trying to do, I'm using the split config already (it works) |
| 15:54.31 | petemc | jak: look in in /etc/exim4/conf.d/transports/ |
| 15:54.35 | format_c | and what do want do do? limiting smtp service to particular interfaces? |
| 15:54.56 | jak | no, I've done that already, I want to bind to a specific ip for outgoing mail |
| 15:55.02 | jak | like petemc said |
| 15:55.31 | jak | only problem is I don't know where I'd set that in the split config, or if I should set it (and how I should set it) in update-exim4.conf.conf |
| 15:55.47 | jak | since I'm assuming that the split config gets regenerated every time I run update-exim4.conf |
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| 15:57.46 | format_c | problem is, that this is a client to server communication. Apparently the interface will be choosen that has the best route to the target ip. |
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| 15:58.01 | petemc | eh? |
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| 16:00.12 | mamagery | well, going to check this thing out later... another question though: I've installed debian without formatting my /home partition, but in the installer I set up that partition to be my new /home, without formatting it, of course. now I can't see my old files in any way, but they're there because it does only recognize the free space. |
| 16:00.13 | tux91 | Can I upgrade from lenny straight to sid, or do I need to upgrade to squeeze first? |
| 16:00.18 | mamagery | any thought on how to reach the old files? |
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| 16:01.19 | jak | format_c: I just want to bind to a certain ip..in this case they both are on the same interface |
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| 16:01.55 | petemc | jak: i told you what to do |
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| 16:02.27 | PrebenR | blacklist-initramfs |
| 16:02.56 | nkuttler | mamagery: hm? be root, ls -a in mount point |
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| 16:03.02 | PrebenR | abrotman, do you have info about <blacklist-initramfs> |
| 16:03.15 | abrotman | !tell PrebenR about blacklist-initramfs |
| 16:03.20 | MaximLevitsky | I have a question about building debian packages |
| 16:03.27 | abrotman | PrebenR: you can /msg dpkg foo .. he will tell you about stuff |
| 16:03.34 | PrebenR | ah |
| 16:03.43 | PrebenR | didn't know, new to irc |
| 16:03.59 | MaximLevitsky | I noticed that often a package includes a patch that captures changes done by autoreconf |
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| 16:04.36 | jak | petemc: basically, I know what setting to set now even if I don't know what file, but the debian config stuff will clobber it next time I run update-exim4.conf |
| 16:04.50 | MaximLevitsky | And there are patches that modify autoconf |
| 16:05.13 | MaximLevitsky | but then generated makefiles notice that autoconf was changed, and rebuild it |
| 16:05.24 | petemc | jak: you can edit the files in conf.d/transport/ |
| 16:05.25 | MaximLevitsky | is that known? |
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| 16:06.38 | jak | petemc: it won't clobber it? |
| 16:06.44 | petemc | no |
| 16:07.09 | petemc | the files in there are assembled into /var/lib/exim4/ |
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| 16:08.10 | Hetman | hello ;) |
| 16:08.15 | Hetman | i`ve had a problem installing postfix : |
| 16:08.17 | Hetman | postfix depends on ssl-cert; however: |
| 16:08.17 | Hetman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.17 | Hetman | dpkg: error processing postfix (--configure): |
| 16:08.17 | Hetman | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.18 | dpkg | hetman: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 16:08.48 | Hetman | ideas ? |
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| 16:10.01 | abrotman | why isn't ssl-cert configured yet? |
| 16:11.09 | Hetman | abrotman: i don`t know, i try to dkpg-reconfigure ssl-cert |
| 16:11.32 | Hetman | but i`ve seen error (broken or somethin else) |
| 16:11.42 | abrotman | Hetman: which version of debian is this? |
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| 16:12.50 | Hetman | elite:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 16:12.51 | Hetman | 5.0.1 |
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| 16:13.24 | Roman123 | any openvz experts available |
| 16:13.28 | Roman123 | ? |
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| 16:15.41 | abrotman | Hetman: if you `aptitude install ssl-cert` .. what is the error? |
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| 16:15.43 | abrotman | !paste |
| 16:15.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 16:16.34 | Hetman | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m5c3416fd |
| 16:16.40 | lbt | I have a process showing as [icedove-bin] <defunct> |
| 16:16.46 | lbt | how do I clean it? |
| 16:17.49 | Eulex | lbt, what is its parent? |
| 16:17.57 | lbt | 1 |
| 16:18.13 | lbt | hmm I looked at /proc/<pid>/cwd |
| 16:18.16 | mirak | is it normal that nvidia-180-libvdpau-dev depends on nvidia-180-libvdpau ? because if I want to build libxine that supports vdpau, then I can't build it on architecture that nvidia doesn't provides drivers for |
| 16:18.17 | mirak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.20 | mirak | sorry |
| 16:18.20 | Eulex | if kill -9 does nothing, you can't do anything but reboot |
| 16:18.21 | lbt | and it went.... |
| 16:18.44 | lbt | followed by an oops |
| 16:19.19 | Eulex | it went what? you got an oops? |
| 16:19.31 | lbt | the process went away |
| 16:19.35 | lbt | and I got a kernel oops |
| 16:19.42 | Eulex | humh ok, odd |
| 16:19.46 | lbt | nb home dir is NFS |
| 16:19.57 | lbt | but no issues there... |
| 16:19.58 | Eulex | mirak, it's normal for a libfoo-dev package to depend on libfoo |
| 16:20.28 | mirak | Eulex: why ? aren't the headers only needed to build against it ? |
| 16:20.38 | lbt | BUG: soft lockup - CPU#2 stuck for 5537s! [swapper:0] |
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| 16:20.40 | mirak | Eulex: it doesn't need static libraries here I guess |
| 16:20.52 | mirak | Eulex: or whatever it's called |
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| 16:21.21 | mirak | I will see if libxine1 still builds |
| 16:21.25 | Eulex | mirak, you need to link against the shared libraries too |
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| 16:23.18 | mirak | Eulex: ok, so as long so the dev package have no reason to be on the architecture "all" |
| 16:24.15 | Eulex | mirak, if they don't contain any arch-specific code, they should be arch all |
| 16:24.59 | mirak | Eulex: ok, build failed ... |
| 16:25.15 | Eulex | define "failed" |
| 16:25.45 | mirak | pbuilder didn't managed to build vdpau output plugin of libxine |
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| 16:26.48 | mirak | Eulex: but in another case, VDR needs a v4l-dvb headers files . this are kernel headers, however here there is no need to link on the modules ? |
| 16:26.51 | selveste1 | Hey :) I’m running Debian Lenny but when I start the XEN with xm start guest1, it start fine, and login, and connect with SSH, but when I use xm list it haves -b---- 24.4 but as I understated b = blocked but it works way is that ? Do I have to install something on the client so it can detect that it is running ? |
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| 16:29.43 | Eulex | mirak, I do not know every case out there |
| 16:30.38 | mirak | Eulex: in fact here the thing is that the lpia build of the vdr plugin vdr-xine will fail on lpia, because it depends of libxine, however if libxine depend nvidia because of vdpau support, then vdr-xine can't have libxine1 -dev package |
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| 16:31.07 | mirak | and the build fail, even if vdr-xine doesn't depend of vdpau at all |
| 16:31.12 | Eulex | mirak, lpia? |
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| 16:31.19 | mirak | Eulex: atom |
| 16:32.30 | mirak | Eulex: so here it's a case where the package should have a different configure depending on the architecture. I just wonder how this cases are solved |
| 16:33.03 | mirak | because the depencies should also depend of the architecture |
| 16:33.13 | mirak | in the debian/control file |
| 16:33.38 | Eulex | mirak, there's no lpia arch in debian |
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| 16:34.21 | Eulex | and yeah, I believe there are ways to add architecture-dependent dependencies |
| 16:34.25 | _Rocket | hi |
| 16:34.38 | jcm | hi, is it true that for a soft RAID5 array, swap should be on each disk but not in RAID5 ? |
| 16:34.45 | _Rocket | have anyone installed debian on HP 2133 mininote? |
| 16:35.09 | Eulex | _Rocket, probably, did you check eg tuxmobil.org? |
| 16:35.21 | mirak | Eulex: no but my packages are supposed to work also on debian, so I guess the problem will be similar with anything other than i386 and AMD64 , like powerpc for exemple |
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| 16:35.43 | Eulex | !tell _Rocket about laptop |
| 16:36.13 | _Rocket | Eulex: i have already installed it via PXE and it boots |
| 16:36.33 | _Rocket | but xorg is working only on vesa driver |
| 16:36.56 | Eulex | what graphics card does it have? |
| 16:37.18 | _Rocket | VIA Chrome 9 HC, VN896 |
| 16:37.59 | Eulex | ouch |
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| 16:39.02 | chaataka | _Rocket: Driver "via" ? |
| 16:39.14 | chaataka | _Rocket: in xorg.conf I mean |
| 16:39.26 | _Rocket | chaataka: i have tried "openchrome |
| 16:39.31 | _Rocket | and vesa |
| 16:39.45 | _Rocket | and there is no difference - only 640x480 |
| 16:40.04 | chaataka | _Rocket: Give Via a try then :) |
| 16:40.09 | _Rocket | and when it is set do "via", xorg crashes |
| 16:40.20 | Eulex | mirak, I can't say that I understand your problem fully, but perhaps you just need to use ${shlibs:Depends}? |
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| 16:40.39 | chaataka | _Rocket: Do you have xserver-xorg-video-via installed? |
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| 16:41.29 | _Rocket | chaataka: does that package exist? |
| 16:41.59 | chaataka | _Rocket: Well, yes. I can see it |
| 16:42.14 | _Rocket | ... |
| 16:42.22 | _Rocket | yeah, it's good to know |
| 16:42.38 | _Rocket | i have wasted ~5h trying to compile drivers |
| 16:42.39 | Eulex | it's on etch-lenny-squeeze-sid |
| 16:42.51 | _Rocket | and it's in a package |
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| 16:44.07 | loomsen | good evening |
| 16:44.33 | mirak | Eulex: I will search on that. however I resume the problem, as this : if a library only exist on some architecture, and that applications can enable or disable support of this lib, how can I make a unique source package that will build on all the arch |
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| 16:46.17 | chaataka | _Rocket: Here's the output of apt-cache show bla-bla: http://paste.debian.net/34383/ |
| 16:46.47 | loomsen | guys, i have a weird problem... just compiled the stable 2.6.29.1 kernel, everything worked just fine, headers were installed, everything ok |
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| 16:47.25 | loomsen | upon reboot it tells me tho that the /lib/`uname-r`/modules.dep is missing |
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| 16:47.31 | Eulex | mirak, look up dh_shlibdeps and dpkg-shlibdeps |
| 16:47.57 | loomsen | and dropping me to the built in cmd line, from which i can access the device, and the modules are there |
| 16:48.14 | loomsen | ls /dev doesn't show my hard disk tho |
| 16:48.33 | Eulex | /dev is populated by udev |
| 16:48.45 | _Rocket | chaataka: thank you, i have just installed it, but still doesnt work |
| 16:49.33 | Eulex | loomsen, man depmod. |
| 16:50.15 | Eulex | and consider compiling a kernel the debian way next time, if you didn't |
| 16:50.16 | _Rocket | xorg's log says no devices detected |
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| 16:50.58 | chaataka | _Rocket: Do you actually see the card in lspci output? |
| 16:51.03 | loomsen | Eulex: thx, thats kinda the problem... seems like my HD is initialized to late |
| 16:51.06 | _Rocket | yes |
| 16:51.15 | dbbolton | can i set the processor type to K8 when compiling a kernel for a system with a 32 bit userland? |
| 16:51.44 | Eulex | loomsen, modules.dep is there already? |
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| 16:51.52 | loomsen | yes |
| 16:52.02 | _Rocket | but there in xorg's log is also "driver for VIA chipsets: CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800, PM800/PM880/CN400 |
| 16:52.07 | Eulex | dbbolton, yes. you can even run a 64-bit kernel with a 32-bit userland if you wish. but some binary-only drivers don't like that. |
| 16:52.34 | dbbolton | Eulex would fglrx happen to be one of those? |
| 16:52.42 | Eulex | dbbolton, I think so |
| 16:52.45 | _Rocket | it doesn't support my chipset |
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| 16:53.07 | maheshm1 | anybody who knows about iwspy, please help me.. |
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| 16:53.25 | Eulex | loomsen, are you using an initrd? if not, you _need_ to have drivers for both your ide/sata chipset and your file system of / built right into the kernel, ie not as modules |
| 16:53.44 | dbbolton | Eulex thanks for the heads up. i'm going to try it, and if it doesn't work, i guess i'll just go back to the debian kernel |
| 16:53.55 | loomsen | Eulex: http://pastebin.com/m1ce37aca |
| 16:53.58 | loomsen | Eulex: thx |
| 16:54.01 | Eulex | dbbolton, any specific reason you're recompiling your kernel? |
| 16:54.04 | loomsen | Eulex: this could be it |
| 16:55.04 | dbbolton | Eulex well i just kind of had in interest in it after i installed gentoo on another computer, so i thought i would try it on my debin computer for kicks |
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| 16:56.04 | Eulex | dbbolton, heh ok. just use the debian way of compiling it, and all should be fine. |
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| 16:57.55 | Eulex | dbbolton, just be aware that in general, not using a debian kernel and using a compiled one (without reason) is an excellent time-waster :) |
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| 16:58.18 | dbbolton | Eulex that's exactly what i'm looking for |
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| 16:58.33 | dbbolton | Eulex installing gentoo is an even better timewaster |
| 16:59.06 | Eulex | haha yeah :) |
| 16:59.07 | Eulex | have fun |
| 16:59.11 | Ace2017_- | Hi all how can i clean restore the defaults configs in /etc? |
| 16:59.13 | dbbolton | esp on a 300mhz machine |
| 16:59.23 | Eulex | ouch, yeah |
| 16:59.36 | Eulex | I remember recompiling a 2.6.foo kernel on a 300mhz machine, it took 4h |
| 16:59.48 | cahoot | Ace2017_-: from backup |
| 17:00.07 | Eulex | !confmiss |
| 17:00.07 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 17:00.50 | chaataka | _Rocket: I think I put you on the wrong trank :( You should use the openchrome driver after all. Look at this page: http://tinyurl.com/c97lmc |
| 17:01.11 | Ace2017_- | cahoot: i don't have one ;( |
| 17:01.16 | Ace2017_- | :( |
| 17:02.00 | cahoot | Ace2017_-: they're extinct? |
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| 17:02.15 | Ace2017_- | i edited them and now they are seriously damaged |
| 17:02.22 | cahoot | all? |
| 17:02.56 | loomsen | Eulex: tx again, gonna give it a try now |
| 17:03.06 | cahoot | if just a few then reinstall the relevant packages with the confmiss option? |
| 17:03.55 | Ace2017_- | didn't know about confmiss |
| 17:04.52 | Eulex | loomsen, any specific reason you want 2.6.29? are you aware that unstable has 2.6.29 packages, which will most likely work even on stable? |
| 17:05.12 | Eulex | (if you decide to try the package from sid, just get the .deb and dpkg -i it) |
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| 17:06.18 | Eulex | kernel images are somewhat unique in that you can usually use those from different debian releases without any problems |
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| 17:06.54 | Ace2017_- | what about graphics drivers |
| 17:07.09 | Ace2017_- | which then want xorg |
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| 17:07.44 | Eulex | Ace2017_-, was that for me? |
| 17:07.48 | Ace2017_- | yup |
| 17:07.53 | ktlr | can somebody tell me good torrent client to debian, i have used vuze, but it is too slow and eat a lot of memory, i tryed the qbittorent that has a lot of bug |
| 17:08.03 | amphi | rtorrent |
| 17:08.06 | Ace2017_- | ktorrent |
| 17:08.10 | Manoj | kernel-package 12.009 reached Lenny today |
| 17:08.11 | Eulex | kernels do not depend on xorg stuff |
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| 17:08.26 | Ace2017_- | but modules depend on driver packages |
| 17:08.29 | dimedo | does anyone know how i can configure ip network setting for the initramfs environment when i use initramfs-tools? |
| 17:08.58 | Eulex | Ace2017_-, no. the opposite; drivers depends upon modules. |
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| 17:09.31 | ktlr | rtorrent is very good, but not is a desktop application , i mean writed just a console, and it doesnt has a gui toolkit (gtkmm,qt) or other |
| 17:10.27 | Eulex | Manoj, nice |
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| 17:10.57 | ktlr | it hasnt sorry my mother tongue isnt english , and i am writing fast :) |
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| 17:11.20 | Eulex | ktlr, transmission? |
| 17:11.51 | ktlr | well i havent try it |
| 17:12.12 | Eulex | Ace2017_-, in any case, that's usually a non-problem, just get the kernel headers for the kernel too and rebuild the modules for the new one. |
| 17:12.22 | Manoj | Eulex: you might want to see the NEWS.Debian for kernel-package before you say that |
| 17:13.07 | Manoj | more flexibility, more choices, but also more configuration for the non default case |
| 17:13.25 | Eulex | oh |
| 17:13.47 | Eulex | can't say I'm terribly familiar with kernel-package 12.x, I only think I read a blog post on it so far |
| 17:14.14 | Ace2017_- | oh right |
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| 17:14.25 | ktlr | that is use gtk+, this is a good sign :) i prefer the gtk :) |
| 17:14.36 | Ace2017_- | but i haven't dared to try that with ati, it worked well with nvidia drivers |
| 17:15.41 | Eulex | sometimes, using a newer kernel with current closed drivers will require patches, yes. but I believe it has gotten better than it was a few years ago. |
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| 17:17.48 | Eulex | Manoj, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. do you mean that it won't necessarily work to use a kernel from squeeze on lenny? |
| 17:17.50 | dbbolton | if i have a raid controller, but only one hard drive, can i just omit raid support from my kernel? |
| 17:20.22 | _Rocket | chaataka: thank you, it works perfect now |
| 17:20.40 | chaataka | _Rocket: Great :) |
| 17:22.37 | maheshm1 | can anyone help me with iwspy? |
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| 17:24.03 | Manoj | Eulex: kernel-package is not a linux kernel |
| 17:24.29 | Manoj | Eulex: kernel-package is what one uses to create a linux kernel image package |
| 17:24.58 | Manoj | once created, there is no link between kernel-package and the linux image, ie, chancing to former has no effect on the latter |
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| 17:25.15 | Eulex | Manoj, I'm aware, but I was perhaps thinking that you meant that it would produce kernels that were incompatible. |
| 17:25.35 | Eulex | in the packaging, I mean |
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| 17:26.19 | Manoj | the postinst scripts are different. but that does not mean the images are "incompatible" |
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| 17:26.35 | Eulex | ok, good to know |
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| 17:28.47 | krllyx | hi. i've installed debian over my ubuntu and i asked it to not format my /home partition, but to use it as /home partition on debian as well. now i'm unable to see my old files, even knowing they are there. what do i need to do to see the files again? |
| 17:29.20 | Eulex | krllyx, is it mounted correctly? |
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| 17:31.26 | krllyx | Eulex: sorry, i don't know. my home folder does not contain any of my old files, but the "free space" suggests that my old files are there. how can I mount it? |
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| 17:34.49 | maheshm1 | krllyx: can you type "mount" without quotes and tell us what it says about /home |
| 17:35.12 | maheshm1 | in the terminal |
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| 17:39.16 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the config I need to do on an XP machine to get into it with remote desktop viewer in lenny? |
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| 17:41.40 | Zoup | jpinx-eeepc: enable remote desktop, F1 ;) |
| 17:41.55 | xingu | jpinx-eeepc: rmb-click on my computer, properties, in there somewhere. |
| 17:42.10 | xingu | jpinx-eeepc: only available on pro version from memory |
| 17:42.47 | xingu | jpinx-eeepc: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsXp/using/mobility/getstarted/Remoteintro.mspx |
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| 17:44.25 | jpinx-eeepc | cool - thanks xingu :) |
| 17:44.31 | jpinx-eeepc | and Zoup :) |
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| 17:47.42 | flexd | Hmm, does anyone know if no.ftp.debian.org is having issues? Suddenly getting 404 messages |
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| 17:49.10 | jpinx-eeepc | xingu: reading that page seems to tell me that the remote XP box gets "locked" while remote desktop is connected - is that right? |
| 17:50.18 | xingu | jpinx-eeepc: that's exactly it |
| 17:50.39 | jpinx-eeepc | xingu: the girlfriend's not going to like that ;) |
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| 17:51.07 | xingu | jpinx-eeepc: welcome to the wonderful world of license fee maximisation |
| 17:51.24 | jpinx-eeepc | heh -- too true :-/ |
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| 17:51.50 | xingu | jpinx-eeepc: tightvnc+dfmirage gives you about the same responsiveness without that feature. |
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| 17:53.05 | sylar | any drbd expert here? |
| 17:53.19 | sylar | primary/primary? |
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| 17:53.37 | xingu | sylar: you do know that dm-multipath plays happily with iscsi? :) |
| 17:54.06 | sylar | xingu, no, I didn't know that |
| 17:54.13 | krllix | Eulex: sorry, my connection timed out |
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| 17:56.41 | krllix | Eulex: i have a 250gb partition on /home, which i have 99gb used and 151gb unused. but if i enter my /home, it's empty. and if i enable the hidden files, there are only a few config folders. |
| 17:56.48 | jpinx-eeepc | xingu: ok - I'll take a look at tight-vnc with dfmirage and see if she notices when I'm in;) |
| 17:56.52 | krllix | what i want is to see my old files |
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| 17:58.58 | nkuttler | kriebel: output of mount | grep home? |
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| 17:59.07 | sylar | xingu, do you think dm-multipath is good instead of drbd active/active? |
| 17:59.13 | arvind_khadri | hi , could anyone help me with this ? http://paste.debian.net/34363/ |
| 18:00.06 | nkuttler | arvind_khadri: io error... sounds like your hardware is dying |
| 18:00.19 | nkuttler | arvind_khadri: apt-get clean and try again |
| 18:00.26 | krllix | nkuttler: /dev/sd4 is on my /home. which is the 250gb partition. |
| 18:00.36 | nkuttler | krllix: that's not what i asked for |
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| 18:01.02 | xingu | sylar: the layering is tidier in my mind |
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| 18:01.47 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
| 18:02.01 | krllix | nkuttler: krylyx@luigi:/home$ mount | grep home --- /dev/sda4 on /home type ext3 (rw) |
| 18:02.18 | xingu | sylar: if you expose topology up as high as the lvm then it is free to choose how to handle the guarantees it offers pagecache and vfs |
| 18:02.46 | arvind_khadri | nkuttler, thanks, its working :) , how did you arrive to the conclusion that it was IO error |
| 18:02.55 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
| 18:02.59 | nkuttler | arvind_khadri: i read the error.. |
| 18:03.06 | xingu | sylar: if you hide topology, conversely all the lvm can do is assume the worst (and ask for the most pessimistic case from the block layer) |
| 18:03.13 | nkuttler | krllix: output of ls -la /home (as root)? /msg dpkg paste |
| 18:03.29 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
| 18:03.36 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
| 18:03.36 | arvind_khadri | nkuttler, oops.... i missed that one |
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| 18:03.48 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
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| 18:04.09 | xingu | sylar: _all_ block over ip is going to be treacly slow at line rates <4Gbps so packet overhead is a non-issue regardless. |
| 18:04.18 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
| 18:04.46 | xingu | !ops Blah12309 how about a cup of ×amsg× G line |
| 18:04.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: xingu complains about: Blah12309 where is a cup of ×amsg× G line |
| 18:05.10 | xingu | heh, interesting reparse. |
| 18:06.07 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
| 18:07.22 | krllix | nkuttler: http://paste.debian.net/34391/ |
| 18:07.28 | arvind_khadri | nkuttler, no its still giving me the same error |
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| 18:08.18 | nkuttler | arvind_khadri: maybe your mirror is corrupt, not sure if aptitude check file consistency.. |
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| 18:08.26 | nkuttler | krllix: du -hs /home/* ? |
| 18:08.57 | Eulex | krllix, that's quite strange |
| 18:09.00 | arvind_khadri | nkuttler, any work around ? other than waiting for a few days |
| 18:09.29 | nkuttler | arvind_khadri: use a different mirror? i guess packages.debian.org should have md5sums.. as i said, prepare for a failing hd |
| 18:10.47 | krllix | nkuttler: we're reaching something here... http://paste.debian.net/34392/ |
| 18:10.48 | arvind_khadri | nkuttler, my hd is fine... |
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| 18:11.31 | nkuttler | krllix: are you root? nothing in /home/edwardzack ? ls -la it |
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| 18:13.16 | RainbowW | so what's the current wisdom re file sharing between multiple linux boxen? all on a trusted lan, single user, so security behind the firewall isn't an issue. nfs? something else? |
| 18:13.26 | maheshm1 | nkuttler: he must have logged in as a different user! |
| 18:13.29 | maheshm1 | :) |
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| 18:14.09 | krllix | nkuttler: actually all my files are there... ls -la recognized all of them, but i cant see it. I'm logged as super user, gotta logout to change. gimme a second please. |
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| 18:14.25 | nkuttler | krllix: heh? what does it mean, you can't see? |
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| 18:14.38 | nkuttler | kriebel: probably simply chown -R them... |
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| 18:15.25 | Blah12309 | ×amsg× |
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| 18:18.51 | krylyx | nkuttler: ok, now I'm logged as root. |
| 18:19.13 | Blah12309 | everyone! |
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| 18:20.23 | maheshm1 | krylyx: can you see your files now? |
| 18:20.41 | krylyx | maheshm1: actually... no. |
| 18:20.45 | nkuttler | krylyx: wth are you doing? don't log into x as root |
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| 18:21.31 | maheshm1 | it should be /home/edwardzack |
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| 18:21.48 | krylyx | nkuttler: don't mind it, i only want to recover my files and then format this |
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| 18:22.01 | krylyx | maheshm1: actually i'm not logged root, lol, wait up |
| 18:22.45 | maheshm1 | krylyx:its ok. what is the content of /home/edwardzack ? |
| 18:22.48 | maheshm1 | just blank? |
| 18:22.54 | Blah12309 | everyone! irc://irc.authoritygamer.com | /server irc.authoritygamer.com |
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| 18:23.00 | krylyx | ok i'm able to see it through terminal, and now i have permission to write. |
| 18:23.07 | krylyx | i can burn some dvds from here |
| 18:23.17 | trupheenix | hi i'm having difficulty installing intel pro wireless drivers on lenny |
| 18:23.20 | trupheenix | any pointers? |
| 18:23.35 | krylyx | maheshm1: its blank because i'm not root, but i can do it from terminal |
| 18:23.49 | nkuttler | krylyx: man chown |
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| 18:24.01 | maheshm1 | krylyx: ok. chown them.. |
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| 18:24.36 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: whats the problem? |
| 18:24.40 | the_sniff | how can i see my memory usage? |
| 18:24.49 | Maulkin | free |
| 18:24.55 | the_sniff | im getting 6gb used, and top shift+m doesn't show anything weird |
| 18:24.59 | the_sniff | is it cache? |
| 18:25.08 | the_sniff | Maulkin: i mean by process. and not virtual |
| 18:25.11 | trupheenix | maheshm1 the wireless device doesn't show up when i do ifconfig |
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| 18:25.20 | krylyx | nkuttler, maheshm1, thank you for the support, and sorry for being noob. i'll study and search more next time. |
| 18:25.21 | krylyx | see you |
| 18:25.22 | trupheenix | maheshm1: my wireless switch is on |
| 18:25.23 | Maulkin | !tell trupheenix about iwlwifi |
| 18:25.36 | trupheenix | but no eth1 or wlan0 |
| 18:25.46 | trupheenix | i think i will switch to ipw3945 |
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| 18:26.28 | Maulkin | the_sniff: what's the actual problem? |
| 18:26.32 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix, here iwl3945 works just perfect |
| 18:26.53 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix: what is your problem? |
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| 18:27.15 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: you are not using ipw3945? |
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| 18:27.18 | the_sniff | Maulkin: server is responding too slow to http requests. the memory isn't all used, most is cache anyway, and there's none swapping |
| 18:27.22 | strawks | Hi all, I have a problem with a HP LaserJet 1300 : using hpijs I have a margin (left and right) ~0.5cm where I can't print although this is not a hardware limitation (i.e. using the postscript driver it works), any idea on how I can get it to work? |
| 18:27.40 | trupheenix | MaximLevitsky: i installed firmware-iwlwifi. then did a modprobe iwl3945. but the wireless light doesn't turn on and neither does the wireless device show up on ifconfig |
| 18:27.46 | trupheenix | maheshm1: no |
| 18:27.58 | the_sniff | Maulkin: plus, the load is always under 1 |
| 18:28.03 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix, look at dmesg |
| 18:28.09 | Maulkin | the_sniff: Doesn't sound like memory is your problem then. |
| 18:28.22 | Maulkin | the_sniff: modprobe iwlwifi |
| 18:28.27 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix: what ubuntu version, kernel version |
| 18:28.31 | Maulkin | err... trupheenix ^^ |
| 18:28.49 | Maulkin | the module is called iwlwifi, not ipw3945 anymore |
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| 18:29.33 | trupheenix | MaximLevitsky: i'm using debian lenny lxde |
| 18:29.48 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix, yep, sorry for that, but what kernel? |
| 18:30.07 | Maulkin | It'll be 2.6.26 |
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| 18:30.25 | maheshm1 | or later |
| 18:30.32 | maheshm1 | 2.6.28 |
| 18:30.34 | Maulkin | nods |
| 18:30.51 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix: try to use modprobe iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1 |
| 18:30.53 | the_sniff | Maulkin: there is no wifi on live production servers:s |
| 18:31.21 | Maulkin | the_sniff:yes, that was a mistell |
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| 18:31.58 | trupheenix | MaximLevitsky: Debian 2.6.26-13 |
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| 18:32.09 | maheshm1 | Maulkin: sure that iwlwifi is the module name? |
| 18:32.23 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix: here it is called iwl3945 |
| 18:32.36 | Maulkin | Gah, yeah, sorry |
| 18:32.41 | trupheenix | MaximLevitsky: ok |
| 18:32.43 | anoHito | i run /etc/init.d/mysqd start ,nothing ,how come ? |
| 18:32.49 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix: maybe in older kernels it was called iwlwifi |
| 18:33.04 | Maulkin | should return to managing transitions |
| 18:33.06 | the_sniff | how can i clear the memory cache on my system? |
| 18:33.17 | MaximLevitsky | trupheenix: anyway, try to install compat-wireless, since older iwlwifis weren't that good |
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| 18:33.35 | trupheenix | MaximLevitsky: ???? *boing!?!?! what? :) |
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| 18:34.10 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 18:34.15 | MaximLevitsky | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download |
| 18:34.31 | sobersabre | is there a tool that shows how many days since UNIX genesis have passed ? |
| 18:34.38 | sobersabre | (for pass aging purposes) |
| 18:34.54 | sobersabre | is there a flag for e.g. date |
| 18:34.57 | sobersabre | ? |
| 18:35.05 | the_sniff | Maulkin: memory isn't my problem, nor is io usage lol :s |
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| 18:35.38 | Maulkin | the_sniff: look at apachetop? |
| 18:36.05 | the_sniff | apachetop? lol nice to meet you :p |
| 18:36.16 | the_sniff | Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-root- |
| 18:36.16 | the_sniff | cannot connect to fam: Connection refused |
| 18:36.17 | the_sniff | lol wtf |
| 18:36.28 | Ace2027_- | Hi all |
| 18:36.37 | Ace2027_- | is there anything special to getting vista to print to cups? |
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| 18:36.49 | Ace2027_- | xp can print with the url, but vista cannot |
| 18:37.00 | Ace2027_- | vista just gives an error |
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| 18:37.27 | maheshm1 | Ace2027_-: Dont use it!! :) |
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| 18:37.38 | Ace2027_- | i have no choice |
| 18:37.53 | the_sniff | why does apachetop need fam when it's removing each other when im trying to install?! |
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| 18:38.35 | cusco | hi... permissions ... for a user to be able to read and write on his files, but not for other users to list them |
| 18:38.41 | cusco | its 644 isn't it? |
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| 18:39.22 | sobersabre | cusco: what do you mean "list" ? :) |
| 18:39.27 | enouf | cusco: no |
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| 18:40.22 | cusco | enouf: 755 ? |
| 18:40.25 | cusco | I forgot... |
| 18:40.26 | enouf | the parent dir controls dir perms, as far as ls and such are concerned - setgid (to usergroup) on parent IIRC |
| 18:40.30 | enouf | cusco: no |
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| 18:40.42 | sobersabre | cusco: do you understand what the 755 means ? |
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| 18:40.51 | enouf | !permissions |
| 18:40.51 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions, or <qotd232> |
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| 18:41.43 | enouf | cusco: a umask of 022 on a user will make all files newly created by user 644, and dirs 755 |
| 18:41.48 | trupheenix | maheshm1: i think i added the wrong repositories |
| 18:42.10 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: :) |
| 18:42.25 | enouf | but that doesn't stop other users from seeing / ls'ing the files |
| 18:42.27 | trupheenix | maheshm1: what repository am i looking for? |
| 18:42.38 | ssm_ | ftp.no.debian.org/debian seems strangely empty, and http://mirror.debian.org/status.html#sect_main seems rather depressing, anyone know what is happening? |
| 18:42.45 | cusco | enouf: I don't mind if people list them, as long as they can't read them |
| 18:43.02 | enouf | you said "list" |
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| 18:43.12 | ssm_ | ...or is it just me :) |
| 18:43.15 | cusco | sorry |
| 18:43.42 | sobersabre | cusco: the easiest part of solving a problem is speaking in a clear manner. What do you want to achieve ? |
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| 18:43.53 | sobersabre | speak in your OWN language. |
| 18:44.01 | cusco | hold |
| 18:44.03 | enouf | i know how to make them undeletable/uneditable via other users - dir perms set to 1777 - like /tmp is |
| 18:44.33 | ssm_ | ah, just the norwegian mirror that's empty, se and dk seems to be ok |
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| 18:45.41 | enouf | well, if they can't list them they won't know their names, but i'm not sure whether they can guess or tab-complete to get around that - you either want ACLs, or SElinux shudder , or Encryption |
| 18:46.02 | maheshm1 | cusco: 600 :) |
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| 18:47.08 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: i had done it long back. I used files from sourceforge then, compiled it. It had worked then. |
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| 18:49.16 | trupheenix | maheshm1: even i did the same thing |
| 18:49.35 | trupheenix | maheshm1: but i think i will try out iwl3945 |
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| 18:49.53 | trupheenix | maheshm1: iwl sucks! ipw was much better. it atleast had a powersaving mode. |
| 18:49.55 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: try using iwspy once you are done. Let me know if it works for you. |
| 18:50.46 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: ipw didnt work? you said you didnt try that.. |
| 18:50.47 | cusco | Sorry, what I really meant is that I wish for users not to be able to read others users files on other users directorys |
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| 18:51.02 | trupheenix | maheshm1: i tried ipw on ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10. it worked |
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| 18:51.26 | maheshm1 | it should work with lenny too.. |
| 18:51.46 | trupheenix | maheshm1: iwspy doesn't work |
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| 18:52.27 | maheshm1 | trupheenix:how do you know?? |
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| 18:53.52 | the_sniff | anyone here has apachetop? |
| 18:54.05 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: as MaximLevitsky said, try using that compat. they seem much more latest. |
| 18:54.30 | trupheenix | maheshm1: technically the ipw drivers are better! |
| 18:54.41 | trupheenix | maheshm1: just don't know how to get them :( |
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| 18:56.11 | grnmtn | does anyone know how I should troubleshoot getting an internal card reader to work? |
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| 18:56.25 | grnmtn | I can't search the forums for "card reader", it says it's too common |
| 18:56.32 | grnmtn | when I put a card in, nothing shows up in dmesg |
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| 18:57.23 | nkuttler | grnmtn: internal card reader? |
| 18:57.28 | grnmtn | knuttler: yes |
| 18:57.33 | enouf | a playing card? the ace of spades? |
| 18:57.36 | grnmtn | on a MSI Wind desktop, to be exact |
| 18:57.50 | enouf | punch card? |
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| 18:58.03 | grnmtn | enough already enouf |
| 18:58.23 | enouf | mmc |
| 18:58.32 | maheshm1 | grnmtn: do you mean memory card? |
| 18:58.41 | grnmtn | mahesm1: yes, SD card slot |
| 18:58.55 | nkuttler | grnmtn: sounds like a question for google |
| 18:58.57 | grnmtn | this is on a CLI only install, no hal |
| 18:59.01 | maheshm1 | why do you call it "internal" |
| 18:59.19 | grnmtn | nkuttler: I know, I'm not coming up with much on google. And I can't search the forums for card reader, which annoys me |
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| 18:59.29 | nkuttler | grnmtn: 'the forums'? |
| 18:59.30 | grnmtn | maheshm1: it's not USB, that's all |
| 18:59.35 | grnmtn | debian forum |
| 18:59.37 | enouf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_memory_cards |
| 18:59.41 | nkuttler | grnmtn: google site:url |
| 19:00.07 | maheshm1 | and while search dont say internel! :) |
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| 19:00.29 | maheshm1 | mmc is the keyword i guess |
| 19:00.30 | grnmtn | did I say that? oops |
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| 19:01.26 | grnmtn | googling further . .. |
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| 19:01.53 | nkuttler | grnmtn: anyway, /var/log/messages or dmesg, lspci, lsusb, ... |
| 19:01.54 | enouf | 179 block MMC block devices 0 = /dev/mmcblk0 First SD/MMC card 1 = /dev/mmcblk0p1 First partition on first MMC card 8 = /dev/mmcblk1 Second SD/MMC card |
| 19:02.28 | grnmtn | nkuttler: yeah, nothingn in messages or dmesg - not sure what to look for in lspci |
| 19:02.38 | Ace2027_- | hi all |
| 19:02.42 | Ace2027_- | su - username doesn't work |
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| 19:02.46 | Ace2027_- | what can i do to get it to work |
| 19:02.51 | nkuttler | grnmtn: well, paste the output |
| 19:02.56 | nkuttler | !tell Ace2027_- about doesn't work |
| 19:02.58 | enouf | you likely need an adapter of some sort grnmtn |
| 19:03.00 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: i can tell you the troubles tomorrow!! i will have my friends lap with same thing to be installed with lenny. he needs wifi |
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| 19:03.12 | Ace2027_- | it jsut goes to the next line, the username@hostname isn't changed |
| 19:03.22 | enouf | or some proprietary module loaded ... or ... just a newer kernel |
| 19:03.42 | nkuttler | Ace2027_-: whoami |
| 19:03.50 | enouf | Ace2027_-: does su username work? |
| 19:04.06 | grnmtn | lspci: http://pastebin.com/m6a4c2d34 |
| 19:04.07 | enouf | ~$ su walk-the-bozo |
| 19:04.07 | enouf | Password: |
| 19:04.27 | trupheenix | maheshm1: hmmm they don't have debian packages any more for the ipw drivers. i think i will have to follow the old style |
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| 19:04.34 | Ace2027_- | oh i see |
| 19:04.39 | Ace2027_- | the thing stops logins |
| 19:04.45 | nkuttler | trupheenix: what do you mean, packages? |
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| 19:04.58 | enouf | grnmtn: check your BIOS |
| 19:05.10 | Ace2027_- | the login shell was set to false |
| 19:05.11 | trupheenix | nkuttler: there is a ipw3945-modules-2.6.26-1-686 which is missing |
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| 19:05.18 | trupheenix | nkuttler: apparently not supported |
| 19:05.28 | trupheenix | nkuttler: i need to build the ipw drivers myself |
| 19:05.31 | grnmtn | enouf: yeah, I guess that's what I should do - I just need to dig up a vga cable to plug in to this thing somewhere . . . |
| 19:05.38 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: that will never be there i think. You will always have to compile. |
| 19:05.39 | grnmtn | thanks |
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| 19:06.20 | trupheenix | maheshm1: i'm aware of the manual method. i think i will do it. but TOMORROW. now i shall sleep. |
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| 19:06.50 | nkuttler | trupheenix: ipw2100 works for me, afaik it's available in debian kernels |
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| 19:07.10 | grnmtn | well, I guess I can't check the BIOS - I don't have a USB keyboard to plug in to the box - I'll have to get one some day |
| 19:07.49 | maheshm1 | trupheenix: where did you get the name ipw3945-modules-2.6* from? |
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| 19:10.18 | trupheenix | maheshm1: wiki |
| 19:10.30 | trupheenix | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.42 | maheshm1 | grnmtn: mine is JMicron. and it is shown in lspci as SD something.. |
| 19:11.20 | enouf | grnmtn: search here for mmc once you find the [xxxx:xxxx] http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids |
| 19:11.42 | enouf | run update-pciids and tell us uname -r output |
| 19:11.43 | grnmtn | `thanks, I'll check that out |
| 19:12.22 | enouf | the wikipedia talks about requiring adapters for certain types IIRC |
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| 19:13.55 | maheshm1 | enouf: what is that SMbus in grnmtn's lspci pastebin?? |
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| 19:14.54 | samo9789 | Hello, I have a problem with a couple of drives hooked up with USB. I launch a copy from one to the other but it stops with an I/O error. The drive is then unaccessible because it moved from sdd1 to sdf1. What can be causing this? |
| 19:15.19 | enouf | maheshm1: lshal | grep smbus |
| 19:15.24 | tomaw | jelly-home: thanks |
| 19:16.12 | enouf | maheshm1: i meant lshal | grep smbios ; but SMBus is System Message Bus - see dmidecode (and friends) too |
| 19:16.22 | JohnK[Laptop] | i'm having trouble getting usb-rndis-lite to compile |
| 19:16.24 | JohnK[Laptop] | and google isn't helping. |
| 19:16.33 | maheshm1 | ok |
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| 19:18.04 | amartin83 | hello everybody, does anyone tried to install 2,3... distros on one usb pendrive?? |
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| 19:18.31 | enouf | grnmtn: if your card reader is indeed using USB - you might have issues if you're using a 'u3' thing - /msg dpkg u3 |
| 19:18.45 | maheshm1 | samo9789: strange. |
| 19:19.13 | samo9789 | @maheshm1forgot to mention these two drives are plugged behind a hub. Could the hub cause the problem? |
| 19:19.32 | grnmtn | enouf: it's not using u3, 'cuz u3 sucks |
| 19:19.33 | grnmtn | :) |
| 19:19.49 | maheshm1 | samo9789: usually not |
| 19:19.51 | grnmtn | I think I'll just power it off and take a look inside, when I get a chance |
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| 19:20.07 | JohnK[Laptop] | http://pastebin.com/m2999bf49 |
| 19:20.13 | JohnK[Laptop] | that's my problem ^ |
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| 19:21.25 | maheshm1 | JohnK[Laptop]: you need kernel headers |
| 19:21.36 | JohnK[Laptop] | hm, k, what's the exact package name? |
| 19:21.41 | JohnK[Laptop] | i was trying to find it last night. |
| 19:21.42 | enouf | grnmtn: msi wind is basically a laptop/netbook ? |
| 19:21.53 | enouf | grnmtn: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 19:22.14 | mirak | does anyone have a good knowledge of dkms ? My problem is that the module configuration can vary depending of the config of the kernel, however the dkms.conf file is not something dynamic, and it fails if a module is in the dkms.conf list but wasn't told to be build by the kernel config. So this is not dynamic at all. |
| 19:22.48 | enouf | mirak: check modinfo <modulename> see parms |
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| 19:23.08 | grnmtn | enouf: msi also has a atom based desktop, also branded wind - which makes it hard to google, since it is much less popular than the netbook |
| 19:23.09 | maheshm1 | JohnK[Laptop]: check linux-headers in the synaptic |
| 19:23.15 | mirak | enouf: what ?? |
| 19:23.25 | bernard | hi |
| 19:23.29 | mirak | enouf: it's not about this I think |
| 19:23.30 | grnmtn | enouf: it makes a great cheap home server |
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| 19:23.34 | enouf | mirak: if the kernel config doesn't have support either as =y or =m .. forget even trying |
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| 19:24.08 | enouf | grnmtn: if it's less popular, it's easier to google |
| 19:24.23 | enouf | grnmtn: use msi wind linux card reader mmc |
| 19:24.51 | mirak | enouf: it's not my point, my point is that dkms.conf is a static file, so I must bound it to a particular kernel config, otherwise dkms complains that it doesn't find this or that module among the one the make file built |
| 19:25.07 | bernard | I'm using sid. Since a recent upgrade ,when I launch X, screen just won't work. It remains powered off (led is switched off). Is xorg broken or something? |
| 19:25.18 | enouf | mirak: i have no idea what you're babbling about |
| 19:25.35 | bernard | even with "vesa" driver it doesn't work |
| 19:25.39 | mirak | enouf: then why do you answer ? |
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| 19:25.57 | enouf | bernard: X doesn't come up at all |
| 19:26.02 | grnmtn | enouf: I mean googling it comes up with tons of stuff on the netbook wind, so it's hard to find anything on the desktop . . . I'll keep looking though |
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| 19:26.16 | bernard | enouf: is it a question? |
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| 19:26.23 | enouf | mirak: obviously i did think i knew what you meant - at one time .. but you're not making any sense now |
| 19:26.43 | maheshm1 | grnmtn: http://forums.msiwind.net/general-discussion/card-reader-not-working-t6105.html but you dont like forums!! :) |
| 19:26.55 | maheshm1 | i dont know if that is what you are looking for |
| 19:27.04 | enouf | grnmtn: so, it's not portable? in the sense a laptop or netbook is? |
| 19:27.20 | mirak | enouf: I make sens, *you* don't understand |
| 19:27.23 | enouf | bernard: yes |
| 19:27.36 | enouf | mirak: fine - find others to help |
| 19:27.50 | grnmtn | enouf: no, it's a small desktop: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032 |
| 19:27.51 | mirak | enouf: better than be insulted |
| 19:28.05 | enouf | grnmtn: ahh .. never heard/seen them |
| 19:28.19 | bernard | enouf: well, keyboard leds work, and my window manager got even launched (I run startx directly because for some reason xdm doesn't work) |
| 19:28.28 | grnmtn | maheshm1: I saw that, but it's the netbook, different mobo |
| 19:28.48 | enouf | bernard: so using startx loads X and whatever? |
| 19:28.53 | bernard | enouf: however ctrl+alt+bcksp doesn't work |
| 19:28.54 | grnmtn | enouf: yeah, they're not that common . . . great box though |
| 19:29.03 | enouf | grnmtn: i see now |
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| 19:29.32 | grnmtn | maheshm1: I like forums, I was just annoyed that the debian forums won't let me search for the words "card" and "reader" - and not even "card reader" |
| 19:29.48 | maheshm1 | :) |
| 19:30.05 | maheshm1 | no hard feelings please :) |
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| 19:30.48 | grnmtn | of course not - I can't have hard feelings against anything associated with debian |
| 19:30.50 | enouf | bernard: do you have a customized xorg.conf? and do you use a ~/.xinitrc or ~/,xsession? and how long has XDM been broken for you? |
| 19:31.11 | enouf | bernard: IINM, for xdm, look in /etc/X11/* |
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| 19:31.56 | maheshm1 | bernard: did you try X -configure? |
| 19:31.59 | grnmtn | thanks for the suggestions, bye |
| 19:32.01 | bernard | enouf: even if I just run "X" from the console, even as root, I get the powered off screen. So it seems the problem is really with X, not with my config |
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| 19:32.03 | enouf | bernard: see if dpkg-reconfigure xdm does anything |
| 19:32.41 | enouf | bernard: that's not what i asked |
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| 19:33.31 | enouf | andf what's your video card? lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 19:33.44 | maheshm1 | enouf: why is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not configuring monitor related stuff? |
| 19:33.50 | samo9789 | @maheshm1 I replaced the hub and I am retrying, will let you know |
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| 19:34.03 | enouf | maheshm1: it's been dead since Etch |
| 19:34.10 | enouf | !drxx |
| 19:34.10 | maheshm1 | why? |
| 19:34.10 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root; this will overwrite your xorg.conf but your old file will be backed up. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier) ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with <xrandr>. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however, using the output of X -configure as a template. |
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| 19:34.19 | bernard | enouf: ATI radeon, which worked perfectly for years until a few minutes ago |
| 19:34.50 | bernard | maheshm1: it doesn't work either (using the config file built by X -configure) |
| 19:34.54 | enouf | bernard: since using sid, look at BTS - and file a bug if apropos |
| 19:35.14 | maheshm1 | +1 |
| 19:35.33 | maheshm1 | samo9789: yup buddy |
| 19:35.47 | maheshm1 | but i dont think that will be the isuue |
| 19:36.03 | maheshm1 | anyway try it |
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| 19:36.46 | bernard | maheshm1: actually I get some results with this config file ! |
| 19:37.15 | samo9789 | @maheshm1 right, didnt do it at all :-( I have to leave for now but I'll try this again later, thanks for your help |
| 19:37.18 | bernard | maheshm1: when running just "X" I get a black screen but startx starts X with a bad resolution |
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| 19:37.51 | maheshm1 | bernard: you can edit the generated config file |
| 19:38.15 | maheshm1 | samo9789: dont worry.. :) |
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| 19:39.32 | maheshm1 | bernard: once you get it working, replace the existing /etc/X11/xorg.cong with this one. |
| 19:39.39 | maheshm1 | it should be working |
| 19:40.03 | maheshm1 | if it still didnt work do as enouf said |
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| 19:40.53 | cpunkpunk | hi, i did a netinstall through a usb key, therefore during installation /dev/sda was the usb drive and /dev/sdf was my actual drive where i installed debian, now i got the problem that grub is "convinced" that my install is on (hd1,0) and not (hd0,0) and that it is on /dev/sdf and not /dev/sda, any idea what to edit to overcome this issue? |
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| 19:41.18 | cpunkpunk | update-grub keeps (hd1,0) and /dev/sdf even after i edit menu.lst |
| 19:41.28 | nkuttler | cpunkpunk: try /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:41.31 | bernard | maheshm1: I added a "Modes" line and it fixed my resolution problem |
| 19:41.34 | nkuttler | hm |
| 19:41.54 | cpunkpunk | nkuttler as i said, after i edit it, if i run update-grub it puts the hd1,0 and /dev/sdf instead |
| 19:41.56 | bernard | maheshm1: btw I saw X switched from "ati" video card driver to "radeon" |
| 19:42.04 | bernard | thx a lot maheshm1 and enouf |
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| 19:42.21 | maheshm1 | bernard: happu hacking! |
| 19:42.27 | bernard | I still think there's a big packaging problem |
| 19:42.28 | maheshm1 | *happy |
| 19:42.44 | cpunkpunk | i edited /boot/grub/device.map also but still happend |
| 19:43.04 | nkuttler | cpunkpunk: no idea, man update-grub i guess |
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| 19:43.26 | cpunkpunk | nkuttler i think it's a more debian related issue than a grub one |
| 19:43.35 | nkuttler | cpunkpunk: /etc/grub.d/ maybe |
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| 19:44.37 | enouf | cpunkpunk: it isn't |
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| 19:45.00 | enouf | cpunkpunk: don't run update-grub either |
| 19:45.05 | maheshm1 | cpunkpunk: are you able to boot into debian?? |
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| 19:45.33 | cpunkpunk | maheshm1 of course |
| 19:45.41 | enouf | fix /etc/fstab and check BIOS / busses and disk order |
| 19:45.48 | cpunkpunk | after editing the grub entry at boot |
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| 19:46.06 | JohnK[Laptop] | alright. that worked. i have another question. any way to emulate right click on a one button mouse? |
| 19:46.11 | JohnK[Laptop] | like, OS 9/X had ctrl+click |
| 19:46.12 | cpunkpunk | and of course by editing menu.lst, but still, when i install a new kernel i still get update-grub to set the old values |
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| 19:47.35 | amphi | JohnK[Laptop]: there's a way of doing that, I did it on a g4 ibook - something in /proc IIRC; linux-laptop.net will have info |
| 19:47.44 | merlin83_ | should i have only a single repository or multiple repositories i.e. stable/sid/testing in my /etc/apt/sources.list ? ii.e. are the repositories mutually exclusive ? i have some programs e.g. pgsql / python that i'd like from sid/testing branch, but other apps that i'd rather only update from stable |
| 19:47.50 | amphi | JohnK[Laptop]: you can emulate three buttons that way |
| 19:47.51 | enouf | cpunkpunk: see #kopt=root= line |
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| 19:48.04 | Nouur | can you be a debian package maintainer using mac osx? |
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| 19:48.32 | maheshm1 | merlin83_ they are mutually exclusive |
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| 19:49.34 | merlin83_ | maheshm1: hmm, so there is a remote chance of an app appearing in stable and not appearing in sid? i.e. a previous kernel image |
| 19:49.34 | maheshm1 | Nouur: it wont be appritiated!! :) |
| 19:49.35 | Nouur | maheshm1: but is possible? |
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| 19:51.58 | cpunkpunk | tx enouf that probaly is |
| 19:52.08 | maheshm1 | merlin83_: i dont think you can have differnt versions of same application. and if main is sid you cant have stable main. |
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| 19:52.44 | JohnK[Laptop] | also, a way to turn off drag lock on my trackpad |
| 19:52.47 | JohnK[Laptop] | since all that is is an annoyance |
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| 19:53.24 | maheshm1 | so if applications you want from sid are in main and from stable are in contrib, its possible |
| 19:53.30 | maheshm1 | otherwise its not |
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| 19:53.41 | maheshm1 | its a limitaioin possed by apt-get |
| 19:54.52 | _Rocket | is anyone here using kde4? |
| 19:55.12 | maheshm1 | _Rocket: What happened? |
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| 19:55.55 | _Rocket | i added 'experimental' to sources.list, and still unable to install kde4 |
| 19:56.52 | maheshm1 | _Rocket: I had it compiled.. |
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| 19:57.59 | _Rocket | maheshm1: and it's running stable? |
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| 19:58.18 | _Rocket | do you have any good how-to? |
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| 19:58.21 | mfc_coder | What is the name of that Program Manager looking window in Ubuntu 9.04 Remix? |
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| 19:59.05 | hjb | how can i swith of fullscreen mode of virtualbox? |
| 19:59.22 | maheshm1 | _rocket: its pretty stable and visually superb. seems more like a vista desktop clone! |
| 20:00.05 | maheshm1 | _Rocket: compiling is not a good idea. details are in the download page itself |
| 20:00.15 | enouf | cpunkpunk: fwiw, the #groot= line as well - and do not remove the leading hash |
| 20:00.23 | cpunkpunk | enouf yeah i noticed |
| 20:00.25 | cpunkpunk | tx |
| 20:00.27 | amphi | 'vista' and 'visually superb' in one sentence?? the world has gone mad |
| 20:00.30 | cpunkpunk | enouf++ |
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| 20:01.35 | cpunkpunk | thatr's why i don't like kde, looks too much like windows |
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| 20:02.05 | Eulex | vista, with its mix of black and light blue, is fugly |
| 20:02.19 | Eulex | mfc_coder, ask #ubuntu? |
| 20:02.35 | maheshm1 | amphi: no comments :) |
| 20:03.39 | mfc_coder | damn, sorry Eulex, my bad :) |
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| 20:14.34 | JohnK[Laptop] | i'm also having an issue with my wireless card. no matter how close to my router i am i only get 2 bars out of 5 for signal strength, and it'll only associate at 2Mbps |
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| 20:16.42 | n-iCe | JohnK[Laptop]: what card |
| 20:17.26 | JohnK[Laptop] | one of the original lucent ORiNOCO gold's |
| 20:17.35 | JohnK[Laptop] | PCMCIA |
| 20:17.38 | kladizkov | i had a thumb drive which was getting auto mounted.. i had to format it for netdisk installation.. now after formating it as FAT32 it doesn't get auto mounted.. how can i get it automounted.. nothing was changed on my laptop.. |
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| 20:18.16 | mirak | hi |
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| 20:18.30 | mirak | are there some tools to help parse a kernel config file ? |
| 20:19.28 | hjb | mirak: it's format is plain simple ^^ |
| 20:20.01 | maheshm1 | mirak: why do you want to do that? |
| 20:20.16 | RainbowW | i'm trying to install lenny on an intel mac mini. when the install is done and the cd is ejected and the system reboots, i get the flashing folder icon, which is apple's way of telling me there's no bootable drive attached. what am i missing? grub installs without a complaint. |
| 20:20.28 | JohnK[Laptop] | grub doesn't work on intel macs. |
| 20:20.28 | JohnK[Laptop] | :P |
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| 20:20.41 | cads | hey, what should I use as a reader to save/update/view offline copies of google group discussions? |
| 20:20.41 | JohnK[Laptop] | they use EFI to boot |
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| 20:21.08 | RainbowW | JohnK[Laptop]: . . . and so i must do what, exactly? |
| 20:21.20 | JohnK[Laptop] | i'm not sure. i'm on an old world PPC mac at the moment |
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| 20:21.23 | JohnK[Laptop] | i don't have any intel macs |
| 20:21.27 | dieg | hi I0ve a little problema. I'm trying to build a package and the first time a do "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" it builds correctly, but the second time it fails. It looks like on the second execution the ./configure is not executed. |
| 20:21.42 | JohnK[Laptop] | RainbowW: elilo |
| 20:21.44 | JohnK[Laptop] | not grub |
| 20:21.58 | RainbowW | ok |
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| 20:22.44 | nkuttler | dieg: make clean? |
| 20:23.21 | kladizkov | i had a thumb drive which was getting auto mounted.. i had to format it for netdisk installation.. now after formating it as FAT32 it doesn't get auto mounted.. how can i get it automounted.. nothing was changed on my laptop.. |
| 20:23.26 | mirak | maheshm1: I want to generate a dkms.conf file |
| 20:23.28 | kladizkov | can anyone help me? |
| 20:23.51 | hjb | kladizkov paste your dmesg utput after connecting the thumb drive please |
| 20:25.04 | JohnK[Laptop] | anyone have any clue about my wireless card? i hate to ask again and be an annoyance. |
| 20:25.18 | dam999 | I have an unrelated problem with a network card. I reckon it can be fixed with a shell script but don't know where to start. Can anyone point me to a more appropriate channel? |
| 20:25.18 | mirak | maheshm1: I need to gather what v4l-dvb modules are enabled in the kernel config |
| 20:25.32 | kladizkov | hjb: http://pastebin.com/m576027af |
| 20:25.34 | mirak | maheshm1: I guess it will be less harder than K though |
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| 20:25.35 | nkuttler | dam999: hm? |
| 20:25.36 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | JohnK[Laptop] : what about your wireless ? |
| 20:25.55 | JohnK[Laptop] | i have an orinoco gold, and my link speed maxes out at 2Mbps no matter how close to the router i am |
| 20:26.05 | JohnK[Laptop] | and i only ever get 2 bars out of 5 for signal strength |
| 20:26.08 | JohnK[Laptop] | @ sh4d3sl4y3r_ |
| 20:26.10 | dam999 | I realise the easiest thing would be to go buy a new one but I'm stubborn! |
| 20:26.10 | dam999 | It's a belkin card, which sucks, and it cuts out after a few hours of use. I'd like to have it constantly on whilst I'm not at the machine and would like to find a fix. |
| 20:26.10 | dam999 | What would it take to write a script which polled the cards status at regular time intervals and stopped the device if it cuts out then restart it and ensure it connects to my wireless network again? |
| 20:26.10 | dam999 | This is pretty much the procedure I go through manually at the moment but this is obviously a problem if I want to go away from the machine. |
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| 20:26.22 | Lord | nice kick |
| 20:26.38 | simonrvn | !tell dam999 -about paste |
| 20:26.46 | simonrvn | ;p |
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| 20:27.35 | hjb | kladizkov: ok, looks nice. which automounter are you using? |
| 20:27.40 | maheshm1 | JohnK[Laptop]: which card are you using? |
| 20:27.56 | nkuttler | dam999: don't paste. do you know about cron? |
| 20:27.57 | JohnK[Laptop] | -{15:25:55}- ((JohnK[Laptop])) i have an orinoco gold, and my link speed maxes out at 2Mbps no matter how close to the router i am |
| 20:27.57 | JohnK[Laptop] | -{15:26:05}- ((JohnK[Laptop])) and i only ever get 2 bars out of 5 for signal strength |
| 20:27.59 | JohnK[Laptop] | :P |
| 20:28.07 | dam999 | Sorry about that. |
| 20:28.12 | simonrvn | ... |
| 20:28.13 | kladizkov | which automounter? how can i find that? |
| 20:28.29 | maheshm1 | :) sorry |
| 20:28.50 | dam999 | Yes, i know about cron but the problem is that i don't know how to test the card via the command line to see if it's failed or if the network simply isn't available. |
| 20:29.21 | dam999 | I had thought of using ping, but that could pick up on a number of network issues and wouldn't specifically identify a problem with the card. |
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| 20:29.44 | hjb | kladizkov: which desktop environment are you using? gnome or kde? |
| 20:29.50 | kladizkov | gnome |
| 20:29.53 | nkuttler | dam999: well.... doesn't ifconfig show you if the interface is up? |
| 20:30.12 | jaggz- | I'm running konsole with --geometry 1000x690+0+0 but.. it doesn't seem to work |
| 20:30.41 | nkuttler | !tell jaggz- about doesn't work |
| 20:31.00 | dam999 | YOu're probably right, could you point me in the direction of something which could help me parse it effectively. My shell scripting is basic... to say the least. |
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| 20:31.15 | nkuttler | dam999: um, well, sed, perl, ... |
| 20:31.21 | nkuttler | dam999: grep, wc |
| 20:31.30 | dam999 | Any good tutorials? |
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| 20:31.39 | nkuttler | dam999: google bash scripting howto |
| 20:31.47 | cads | what do you guys reckon something like konsole uses in order to parse geometry option strings? |
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| 20:32.11 | kladizkov | hjb: any idea? |
| 20:32.18 | nkuttler | cads: i wouldn't be too sure kde even supports geometry.. |
| 20:32.20 | jaggz- | nkuttler, you like typing that !tell don't ya? My comment was clear wasn't it? Trying to set the geometry doesn't work. |
| 20:32.43 | cads | jaggz-: I've messed around with those and had trouble... try to find a working example somewhere and compare syntax |
| 20:32.45 | nkuttler | jaggz-: doesn't work == nonsense |
| 20:32.51 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !sunday |
| 20:32.51 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 20:33.04 | jaggz- | --geometry isn't setting geometry |
| 20:33.14 | jaggz- | cads thanks |
| 20:33.20 | hjb | kladizkov: i'm not sure... is gnome-vfs-daemon running? hal and dbus, too? |
| 20:33.47 | jaggz- | actually I'm using one which works on my other machine.. hm |
| 20:34.01 | dam999 | I'll need to wait till the card fails again to see what the output of ifconfig is. |
| 20:34.04 | kladizkov | hjb: all the three are running |
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| 20:34.30 | jaggz- | maybe it's doing text cols/rows.. <testing> |
| 20:34.32 | dam999 | I have a feeling that it has shown as still being up, even though no more packets are sent / received. |
| 20:34.35 | cads | nkuttler: I remember setting geometry and transparency and removing the frames with konsole, in order to have a terminal embedded in my desktop |
| 20:34.37 | maheshm1 | kladizkov: usually that is handled by dbus |
| 20:34.47 | dam999 | But I'll come back once i can confirm this. |
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| 20:35.18 | jaggz- | oh.. I had a + in there instead of an x. |
| 20:35.21 | kladizkov | maheshm1: how can i check dbus is sending proper notification about its presence to udev? |
| 20:35.22 | dam999 | thanks for the helpnkuttler! |
| 20:35.39 | kladizkov | maheshm1: its udev that mounts it, right? |
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| 20:36.20 | maheshm1 | kladizkov: no idea abt notification |
| 20:36.23 | hjb | kladizkov: paste the output of dbus-monitor, please |
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| 20:36.37 | smacnay | hmmm, gcstar is crashing on me... better look up the bug reports. |
| 20:36.55 | hjb | kladizkov: not it's not udev that mounts it, it's your automounter ;) |
| 20:37.55 | hjb | kladizkov: sorry, what i menat was: start udev-monitor, plug your drive in and then put the output that is generated |
| 20:38.04 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | menat? :P |
| 20:38.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | !spank hjb |
| 20:38.09 | dpkg | bends hjb over his knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 20:38.29 | hjb | sh4d3sl4y3r_: heh :) |
| 20:38.39 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | lol |
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| 20:38.52 | hjb | kladizkov: s/menat/meant/ && s/udev-monitor/dbus-monitor/ |
| 20:39.02 | hjb | ;) |
| 20:39.20 | jaggz- | thanks again |
| 20:40.00 | maheshm1 | bye guys... |
| 20:40.09 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hmm india se hai tu? |
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| 20:40.27 | maheshm1 | haa ji |
| 20:40.31 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hmm |
| 20:40.36 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | see you |
| 20:40.45 | maheshm1 | yup |
| 20:40.49 | maheshm1 | gdnt |
| 20:41.02 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | shuv ratri ;) |
| 20:41.14 | kladizkov | hjb: http://pastebin.com/m46c3e6df |
| 20:41.19 | maheshm1 | shubh ratri |
| 20:41.29 | maheshm1 | :) |
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| 20:44.27 | hjb | kladizkov: hmm, that should be followed by a "signal sender=:1.14 -> dest=(null destination) path=/org/gnome/GnomeVFS/Daemon; interface=org.gnome.GnomeVFS.Daemon; member=VolumeMountedSignal" signal |
| 20:44.57 | hjb | kladizkov: would love to help you further now, as this is interesting, but sadly have to leave now :-( |
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| 20:45.11 | kladizkov | hjb: np |
| 20:45.16 | hjb | kladizkov: good luck |
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| 20:48.43 | seismic1 | hi everyone, can i make a program for linux |
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| 20:49.00 | seismic1 | and how? :) |
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| 20:49.04 | nkuttler | seismic1: can you be more specific? |
| 20:49.46 | seismic1 | which languages can i use |
| 20:50.14 | nkuttler | seismic1: um... which do you want to use? what kind of program do you want to write? |
| 20:50.14 | seismic1 | while saving my project which format do i have to use |
| 20:50.32 | nkuttler | seismic1: do you have any programming experience? |
| 20:50.34 | monkey_d_luffy | When using your desktop, on a "open file" event, depending the application, either the KDE or GTK menu shows up. My problem is that with the GTK one you don't have a URI in which you can type an address. Problem: it gets sloooooow when you have to get inside /usr/bin or the likes, besides not allowing any filtering. Any work around for this? Or is this in GTK people's hands? |
| 20:50.37 | seismic1 | i just switched from windows and new in linux |
| 20:50.53 | seismic1 | yes but in windows |
| 20:50.59 | monkey_d_luffy | (nevermind the filter, it's there) |
| 20:51.00 | seismic1 | vb.net or c+ |
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| 20:51.21 | nkuttler | seismic1: you can write c++ apps and there's a lot of scripting languages |
| 20:51.23 | Eulex | monkey_d_luffy, Ctrl-L |
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| 20:53.07 | seismic1 | ok lets say i decided to use c++ , when i finished my project how can i export it ? |
| 20:53.13 | monkey_d_luffy | Eulex: thanks! :D |
| 20:53.16 | seismic1 | not .exe i know it :D |
| 20:53.32 | nkuttler | seismic1: usually you publish the code and let others package it for distros etc |
| 20:54.31 | seismic1 | really ? |
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| 20:54.55 | seismic1 | what if i want to package it on my own |
| 20:55.20 | adb | !tell seismic1 about nm |
| 20:55.39 | seismic1 | nm? |
| 20:55.48 | nkuttler | seismic1: read what the bot told you |
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| 20:56.35 | seismic1 | i read :) |
| 20:56.39 | adb | !tell seismic1 about upstream |
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| 20:57.58 | seismic1 | im am using ubuntu, thing work like this in ubuntu, too ? |
| 20:58.15 | nkuttler | seismic1: #ubuntu |
| 20:58.51 | seismic1 | i want to ask in here :) |
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| 20:59.12 | simonrvn | tough titty said the kitty |
| 20:59.21 | nkuttler | seismic1: why do you assume we know how things work in ubuntu? |
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| 20:59.24 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 20:59.52 | rindolf | Why am I getting «WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!» when trying to apt-get dist-upgrade Debian Testing? |
| 21:00.06 | seismic1 | nkuttler: because i think they are all linux |
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| 21:00.13 | RainbowW | so how do i install elilo during install, when the only options are lilo, which doesn't work on a mac mini, and grub, which doesn't work on a mac mini? |
| 21:00.30 | nkuttler | seismic1: publish source, wait until distros package it |
| 21:00.45 | deconvolution | hello, after upgrading my server to the current testing branch, I found my slapd server stops working and complains that the tls problem. After searching it seems that the problem is related to the new gnutls library. I wonder how could I find the correct cipher suite in slapd.conf and how can I determine which cipher the current certificate is applied ? |
| 21:00.52 | nkuttler | seismic1: and, really, code something before bothering with this stuff :) |
| 21:00.57 | simonrvn | RainbowW: isn't it present in the x86 or amd64 cd installers? |
| 21:01.14 | simonrvn | seismic1: you could stand to learn some basics first |
| 21:01.36 | seismic1 | for example |
| 21:02.04 | nkuttler | seismic1: i guess learning about autoconf etc is much more important at your stage |
| 21:02.05 | avu | !tell seismic1 about grounding |
| 21:02.20 | seismic1 | im very impatient |
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| 21:02.50 | Quibus | hi |
| 21:02.58 | simonrvn | seismic1: patience is a 'virtue', wherever you go. |
| 21:03.00 | Quibus | Anyone here with experience on recordmydesktop? |
| 21:03.05 | Quibus | I can't get it to record any sound |
| 21:03.25 | nkuttler | seismic1: patience and reading are necessary skills |
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| 21:03.43 | seismic1 | ok ok you are right, first of all i will learn the basics of linux |
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| 21:03.53 | seismic1 | thank you |
| 21:04.04 | rindolf | Oh! Now it's OK after another apt-get update. |
| 21:04.09 | rindolf | Thanks anyways. |
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| 21:07.25 | RainbowW | simonrvn: there is no option that i can see for elilo in either the graphical expert or ncurses expert installers |
| 21:08.01 | simonrvn | RainbowW: poop :( |
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| 21:08.35 | simonrvn | you could fetch a .deb/.udeb for elilo, and install it manually, in expert mode, i suppose. |
| 21:09.03 | RainbowW | i don't remember having to do that on previous installs on this machine tho, i remember using grub but for the life of me i can't remember what i did that was different |
| 21:09.51 | simonrvn | i know, i don't remember this coming up with other efi-using computers. |
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| 21:10.20 | RainbowW | if i just do a standard install like i'd do on any other intel computer, i get the flashing ? over the folder icon, which means no bootable drive attached |
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| 21:11.19 | simonrvn | bleh |
| 21:11.52 | simonrvn | tried holding option down, and coosing the boot device? |
| 21:11.57 | simonrvn | choosing* |
| 21:12.23 | RainbowW | non-mac keyboard. ctrl? |
| 21:13.22 | RainbowW | hmm i'm going to try putting grub on /dev/sda1 rather than the boot sector |
| 21:14.26 | simonrvn | alt |
| 21:14.46 | RainbowW | and i need to find a better machine name. typically i use extremely rude words for various points of female anatomy. haven't thought of one for this box. |
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| 21:19.13 | OpenTokix | my machines is country-functionXX |
| 21:19.14 | OpenTokix | =) |
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| 21:30.57 | j0nr | evenin |
| 21:31.00 | j0nr | i have 2 usb sticks, one with ubuntu, one with debian, both live version to run from the memory stick. |
| 21:31.04 | j0nr | is it possible to get them both on one stick and "dual boot" from the memory stick? |
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| 21:31.28 | cusco | it is but that is not debian related |
| 21:32.03 | nkuttler | j0nr: can't you simply partition the stick? |
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| 21:33.08 | ryanCH | what do you guys think?? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=103464 |
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| 21:33.29 | j0nr | nkuttler: i'm not sure...how would that work with two live distros, one on each partition? how to get a boot menu? |
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| 21:34.00 | OpenTokix | I can only think "why" |
| 21:34.15 | homekevin | Can anyone tell me how to restore a package's config files to their defaults? |
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| 21:35.09 | homekevin | Purging would probably work, but might require removing other packages due to dependencies. |
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| 21:35.41 | [Nada] | hi |
| 21:35.43 | OpenTokix | apt-get --reinstall install pkg-name |
| 21:35.49 | [Nada] | hi, How to do a Non-recursive find on unix ? |
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| 21:36.13 | OpenTokix | [Nada]: (though of course -maxdepth 0 would prevent this). |
| 21:36.19 | OpenTokix | [Nada]: man find |
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| 21:38.28 | [Nada] | I coulnd find maxdepth |
| 21:38.35 | OpenTokix | ok |
| 21:38.36 | [Nada] | option in find manual |
| 21:38.38 | enouf | it's in there |
| 21:38.44 | cusco | j0nr: use the same boot menu |
| 21:38.52 | enouf | so is mindepth |
| 21:38.53 | cusco | edit grub configuration |
| 21:40.05 | enouf | homekevin: might want something like "/msg dpkg confmiss" tells you if manually deleted files that the pkg had installed |
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| 21:42.31 | homekevin | Well, apt-get --reinstall install pkg-name did not restore missing config files or replace modified config files. |
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| 21:44.30 | j0nr | cusco: not sure what you mean? I have just partitioned my usb stick and am in process of adding second live img, so in a minute i will have two partitions on th usb stick, each with a live distro. |
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| 21:45.33 | homekevin | enouf: I've read that a few times and I can't make sense of it. Can you clarify? |
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| 21:46.47 | gomiam | hi, is someone awake? |
| 21:46.54 | enouf | homekevin: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 21:47.28 | gomiam | I'm wondering how the curlftpfs command interprets the "mv" command. Does it do a download and then an upload or does it just RNTO it's way through? |
| 21:47.44 | enouf | homekevin: simarlaly if you normally use aptitude; do; aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename> |
| 21:49.25 | enouf | gomiam: it might also depend on where you're mv'ing files to/from ... the mv command is much faster within the same FS/partition since it only has to update inodes ... |
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| 21:49.56 | gomiam | enouf: I'm trying to do RNTOs without having to script my way through ncftp :) |
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| 21:50.07 | gomiam | renaming files in their current directory |
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| 21:50.49 | j0nr | usb stick with 2 paritions, two live distros just resulted in a "boot error" |
| 21:50.49 | enouf | hrm ... man rename? (which is really prename - the p for perl) that's about all i know |
| 21:51.00 | gomiam | enouf: oh, ok, thanks |
| 21:51.55 | j0nr | how can i get the usb stick to give me an "option" to which partition to boot? |
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| 21:52.17 | enouf | j0nr: you might want to place a bootloader elsewhere ... since each livecd likley uses isolinux |
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| 21:52.41 | enouf | j0nr: one way is SBM perhaps |
| 21:52.41 | j0nr | enouf: how would i go about that? |
| 21:52.49 | enouf | or even maybe memdisk |
| 21:53.03 | enouf | see syslinux.zytor.com |
| 21:53.14 | enouf | !sbm |
| 21:53.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, sbm is Smart Boot Manager, or docs on the Debian CD: /install/README.sbm. Uses a floppy to boot from CD if your computer can't. |
| 21:54.18 | enouf | dpkg: sbm =~ s/from CD/a CD or HDD and other options/ |
| 21:54.18 | dpkg | OK, enouf |
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| 21:55.53 | enouf | might take a look at supergrub disk, hirens boot cd ... dunno ... grub has a way to boot a physical CDROM media |
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| 21:58.50 | homekevin | OK, so I could fix the messed up config file by removing it then using Dpkg::Options::=--force-confmiss, but can anyone tell me a way to do it without having to delete config files first? |
| 21:59.31 | homekevin | I thought --force-confnew, but that didn't replace the modified file with the default version from the package. |
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| 22:04.10 | Saffie_x | hii |
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| 22:05.15 | Saffie_x | who likes doctor martins so in fashion |
| 22:05.45 | Saffie_x | i have saggy boobs |
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| 22:05.49 | Saffie_x | joking |
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| 22:06.44 | Eulex | Saffie_x, do you have a debian question? |
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| 22:07.10 | Saffie_x | yes i would like to know where you get your hair cut |
| 22:07.21 | Eulex | *plonk* |
| 22:08.04 | module000 | Saffie_x: i cut mine with an electric trimmer while standing in the bathtub |
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| 22:08.29 | Saffie_x | Really same here Hi-5 to that |
| 22:08.37 | Gossamer | i'm having trouble recompiling my kernel to include a patched driver :( http://pastebin.com/m758392b5 |
| 22:08.47 | mirak | how can I remove particular lines in a file ? |
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| 22:09.02 | oktay-lxde | hi |
| 22:09.07 | Saffie_x | draw it with a ruler hi |
| 22:09.09 | Saffie_x | hi |
| 22:09.09 | module000 | mirak: man sed |
| 22:09.14 | mirak | ok |
| 22:09.24 | module000 | mirak: there are a ton of ways..but sed is one of them. |
| 22:09.24 | oktay-lxde | is xfce now complete in unstable? 32 bit |
| 22:09.30 | petemc | mirak: you can do it with grep -v |
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| 22:10.38 | mirak | I will go for grep |
| 22:12.08 | Saffie_x | I love swet |
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| 22:12.33 | Saffie_x | nd poo |
| 22:12.56 | enouf | homekevin: rather than delete, just mv or (cp then delete) it somewhere else |
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| 22:13.33 | Saffie_x | who has tasted tango apple lovley just like poo |
| 22:13.45 | adb | !ops Saffie_x troll |
| 22:13.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: adb complains about: Saffie_x troll |
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| 22:14.04 | Saffie_x | i love eeyore his lazy like me |
| 22:14.06 | tomaw | Saffie_x: enough, thanks. |
| 22:14.17 | enouf | Saffie_x: does your big sister know she's on her computer? |
| 22:14.19 | Saffie_x | whats troll |
| 22:14.22 | amphi | adb: I would say 'tard' ;) |
| 22:14.40 | amphi | the stench of the 'swarm |
| 22:14.41 | enouf | amphi: s/tard/turd!/ ;-) |
| 22:14.55 | Saffie_x | you dont know what your talking bout |
| 22:15.11 | Saffie_x | are u a geek |
| 22:15.17 | enouf | s/she's/you're/ .. haha |
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| 22:21.58 | mats | hello good evening! when i was young i made some little programs with QBasic. It was very easily to play sounds with the BIOs under Windows. So my question is: Do anybody know, how i can play a bios sound or a beep with the terminal or even better in a c++ program? |
| 22:22.13 | enouf | use \a |
| 22:22.40 | enouf | man ascii - and man bash-builtins and use echo |
| 22:22.48 | nkuttler | mats: or use beep |
| 22:22.53 | amphi | man echo has thus info |
| 22:22.57 | amphi | *this |
| 22:23.12 | enouf | but that's /bin/echo ;-) |
| 22:23.25 | mats | nkuttler: what do you mean? |
| 22:23.31 | Patric | Hejah Leute, schaut Euch mal www.eroticam.ws an - Sind die scharf dort! |
| 22:23.34 | nkuttler | mats: apt-cache show beep |
| 22:23.44 | nkuttler | !ops Patric spam |
| 22:23.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: nkuttler complains about: Patric spam |
| 22:23.48 | amphi | bloody vikings |
| 22:24.22 | enouf | i could understand one word in that sentence ; yerp 'erotica' :-P |
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| 22:24.33 | nkuttler | enouf: german |
| 22:24.54 | enouf | aye |
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| 22:30.23 | dreamer | hey all, I want to get the following functionality: when adding a user to the machine I want the folders I created using skel to be automatically mounted to (for instance with ~/Docs) to /media/Docs/$user .. any ideas how to do this? someone suggested using PAM modules, but I don't know anything about them |
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| 22:33.27 | enouf | dreamer: you can edit /etc/adduser.conf or /etc/default/useradd to your liking |
| 22:33.43 | mats | nkuttler: beep doesn't work! :-( |
| 22:33.45 | enouf | not that it's where automount stuff should go ... |
| 22:34.22 | enouf | !doesn't work |
| 22:34.22 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message". |
| 22:34.34 | mats | nkuttler: i tried "beep -n -f 1500 -l 2000" |
| 22:34.55 | enouf | why don't you try speaker-test instead ;-) |
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| 22:37.25 | mats | please, how do i play a bios sound on my laptop |
| 22:37.28 | mats | ??? |
| 22:38.17 | dreamer | enouf: I'm not sure how to get what I want in there .. the adduser manpage wasn't any helpfull on that either .. |
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| 22:38.26 | dreamer | all I got setup now is skel |
| 22:39.04 | dreamer | but the userdirs on the mounted disk and symlinking I have no clue how to do .. |
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| 22:39.59 | nkuttler | dreamer: you can auto-run scripts after running adduser |
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| 22:40.36 | samo9789 | hi again, is fsck -F ext3 -V /dev/sdf1 a correct command (it outputs the usage) |
| 22:41.17 | Eulex | samo9789, no. did you read the man page? |
| 22:41.34 | mats | even fprint ('\a') doesn't work ... please do anybody knows the reason? |
| 22:41.39 | Eulex | samo9789, I also suggest using e2fsck. |
| 22:41.41 | samo9789 | @Eulex, actually I have but I must say it's not that clear to me |
| 22:41.53 | amphi | mats: echo -e '\a' |
| 22:42.01 | amphi | mats: does that work? |
| 22:42.03 | dreamer | nkuttler: if I knew how to script I might know what to do .. |
| 22:42.12 | Eulex | samo9789, man fsck doesn't document any -F option |
| 22:42.32 | mats | amphi : nothing happens |
| 22:42.34 | mats | ! |
| 22:42.44 | samo9789 | @Eulex, I read the man page online and it did mention a -F but I guess it was not the right man page |
| 22:42.47 | nkuttler | dreamer: well, read the bash scripting howto i guess. and man ln, mount etc |
| 22:42.49 | mats | no, it doesn' work |
| 22:43.03 | samo9789 | @Eulex, reading the man for e2fsck now |
| 22:43.05 | Eulex | samo9789, probably not then, it does not here. |
| 22:43.07 | nkuttler | mats: beep works flawlessly on all of my boxes |
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| 22:45.54 | mats | nkuttler : i read somethings in the internet and no one had such problems with beep ... maybe theres something wrong in the way it is transmitted to the soundcard ... because the normal mp3 sound works flawlessly . |
| 22:46.18 | nkuttler | beep doesn't use the soundcard |
| 22:46.32 | dreamer | nkuttler: and how can I have the script auto-run after running adduser? |
| 22:46.32 | sprax | is NFS more efficent than Samba? Is something better than NFS? |
| 22:46.40 | nkuttler | dreamer: man adduser |
| 22:46.56 | mats | but i have an other idea ... can't i use timidity to play a sound with terminal? |
| 22:47.15 | mats | nkuttler : so what's timidity using? |
| 22:47.28 | mats | sorry beep |
| 22:47.38 | mats | so what's beep using? |
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| 22:48.22 | nkuttler | mats: the speaker.. |
| 22:48.34 | mats | ok |
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| 22:48.48 | enouf | well system calls to the BIOS calls likely (atleast anything coming from pcspkr is) |
| 22:49.01 | sylar | what do I do if a filesystem can be mounted only 5 minutes after boot, and I want it to mount automatically? |
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| 22:49.27 | mats | maybe i have to change something in the alsa mixer? |
| 22:49.40 | enouf | alsa since .26 calls it snd-pcsp or something |
| 22:49.57 | enouf | !bell |
| 22:49.57 | dpkg | "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc, or in konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell, or for .26 and newer modprobe -r snd-pcsp, then <blacklist> the snd-pcsp module |
| 22:50.37 | mats | my system doesn't returnan error it's only the fact that he's waiting for the duration of the sound and than i got a new command line |
| 22:50.49 | mats | enouf: i can't follow you |
| 22:50.53 | enouf | echo '\a' should do IIRC, i have that shit all disabled |
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| 22:51.00 | enouf | or add a -e |
| 22:51.18 | enouf | !speaker-test |
| 22:51.18 | mats | whats IIRC? |
| 22:51.18 | dpkg | well, speaker-test is do; "speaker-test -tsine -f440 -c2" or perhaps "speaker-test -t wav -c 2" for a nicer female voice, instead of a tone to test if speakers are working in alsa (install alsa-utils), ask me about <alsa checklist> and <soundcheck> |
| 22:51.33 | RainbowW | tail -f or tail --follow on a fast-moving log stops moving after just a few screens. ctrl-c and then restart works fine. is there a way to make tail NOT do this? |
| 22:52.27 | enouf | mats: the piezo within the system case is that BEEPing spkr .. which takes BIOS/SMBIOS calls/routines, iinm .. maybe even DOS style software interrupts |
| 22:52.38 | enouf | !IIRC |
| 22:52.39 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 22:52.53 | petemc | RainbowW: does the file get unlinked? tried tail -F |
| 22:53.38 | mats | with speaker-test -t wav -c 2 i can hear a female voice ... it's ok ... but beep doesn't make anything |
| 22:53.50 | enouf | RainbowW: maybe your terminal can't output fast enough? try xterm with (.. are the bitmap fonts faster? or the TTFs? i forget) |
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| 22:54.18 | enouf | i never used the beep pkg, so i have no idea about what it does |
| 22:54.20 | sobersabre | is there a hindu debian channel ? |
| 22:54.30 | RainbowW | enouf: screen over ssh |
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| 22:54.50 | enouf | your buffer then? try using ssh with compression? |
| 22:54.58 | sobersabre | or... is there anybody who knows sanskrit in here ? |
| 22:55.08 | mats | enouf: how do you play your sound |
| 22:55.10 | mats | P |
| 22:55.12 | mats | ? |
| 22:55.13 | samo9789 | @Eulex, I run e2fsck /dev/sdd1 (which is a ext3 partition) and I get "The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. " |
| 22:55.17 | enouf | or a different algo? arc4? |
| 22:55.23 | mats | i mean your bios sound? |
| 22:55.26 | nkuttler | !in |
| 22:55.27 | enouf | mats: mplayer ;-) |
| 22:55.27 | dpkg | hmm... in is India. For Debian India, see #debian-in |
| 22:55.29 | Eulex | samo9789, was it damaged? |
| 22:55.35 | enouf | mats: i don't play my BIOS |
| 22:55.42 | mats | ok ok |
| 22:55.58 | samo9789 | @Eulex, no I don't think so |
| 22:56.17 | samo9789 | @Eulex it might have been unplugged while mounted though it was not writing nor reading at that time |
| 22:56.45 | samo9789 | @Eulex, e2fsck suggests e2fsck -b 8193 <device> but I'm not sure what to do with that |
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| 22:58.28 | enouf | samo9789: that would tell it the superblock is located there |
| 22:58.30 | BleSS | my usb memories are not being auto-mounted, dmesg | tail doen't show nothing about it, any idea? |
| 22:58.38 | enouf | samo9789: is that your / FS? |
| 22:58.52 | enouf | BleSS: lsusb? |
| 22:59.03 | enouf | BleSS: /msg dpkg automount |
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| 22:59.12 | samo9789 | @enouf I do not know where the superblock is suppoosed to be |
| 22:59.27 | samo9789 | @enouf this is the only partition on a 500Gb drive I use to backup my data |
| 22:59.28 | Eulex | samo9789, an ext3 partition contains an identification that it is an ext3 partition, this is in the so-called superblock of the partition. if e2fsck can't find a valid superblock, it can't touch the partition |
| 22:59.31 | enouf | samo9789: it does, nor would you want to try and alter that |
| 22:59.47 | BleSS | enouf: lsusb only shows that there is a flash card reader/writer |
| 23:00.06 | Eulex | samo9789, there's a default location on the partition that e2fsck and all other ext3 software looks in |
| 23:00.09 | enouf | samo9789: file -s /dev/sdd1 says? |
| 23:00.11 | samo9789 | @Eulex, thanks for the explanation. I didnt set the superblock location, is there a default value? |
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| 23:00.21 | enouf | if sdd1 is the correct /dev/name |
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| 23:01.00 | enouf | samo9789: debuge2fs, or maybe tune2fs might tell you .. but you shouldn't mess with those until you understand more |
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| 23:01.15 | Eulex | samo9789, yes. |
| 23:01.33 | samo9789 | @enouf, when this problem occurs the device changes |
| 23:01.40 | enouf | er s/debuge2fs/debugfs |
| 23:01.42 | samo9789 | it was /dev/sdd1 now it is /dev/sdf1 |
| 23:02.04 | samo9789 | anyway here is the output for file -s /dev/sdf1: /dev/sdf1: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=f2f267bd-8765-47bd-b194-f9ed4feb3508 (needs journal recovery) (large files) |
| 23:02.20 | enouf | samo9789: are you sure? fdisk -l ; cat /proc/partitions ; dmesg ; blkid all confirm that>? |
| 23:02.37 | enouf | ok |
| 23:03.08 | samo9789 | @enouf, yes fdisk -l confirms this change of device name |
| 23:03.10 | enouf | samo9789: is there an entry for it in /etc/fstab? |
| 23:03.43 | enouf | samo9789: the change usually happens from crappy BIOS activity when you have certain USB and other ports occupoedduring boot or not |
| 23:03.47 | samo9789 | @enouf, no, this is a backup drive I mount once a week to copy data. I didn't add it to fstab. It is a sata drive in a usb encosure |
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| 23:03.59 | enouf | samo9789: i suggest you use UUIDs or LABELs instead of /dev/names |
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| 23:04.29 | samo9789 | @enouf, ok, I will look into that |
| 23:04.35 | enouf | samo9789: ls -l /dev/disk/* will also confirm any carnage |
| 23:04.57 | enouf | samo9789: i'd mv any /etc/blkid.tab file out of the way too |
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| 23:05.09 | enouf | cat it, to see it's contents |
| 23:06.13 | samo9789 | @enouf, I just done the ls of /dev/disks/* but doesnt know what it means |
| 23:06.28 | enouf | samo9789: pastebin it |
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| 23:06.39 | enouf | samo9789: i have to run for a while though ... |
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| 23:07.21 | sylar | how to see exactly boot messages? dmesg seem to miss a few |
| 23:07.24 | enouf | samo9789: might as well pastebin all the output (of those other commands - but pluck out relevant dmesg info) - still, it should still fsck |
| 23:07.35 | enouf | sylar: /msg dpkg bootlogd |
| 23:07.52 | samo9789 | @enouf: http://pastebin.com/m328ce30a |
| 23:08.10 | samo9789 | also, I am now running the e2fsck after noticing the change of device name |
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| 23:08.27 | samo9789 | @enouf: Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes |
| 23:08.27 | samo9789 | Error reading block 1409530 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan. Ignore error<y>? |
| 23:08.54 | samo9789 | @enouf, as I said, the drive is a backup (I have the original) if formatting it can fix, it is a solution for me |
| 23:09.02 | enouf | or .. for more, attach a serial console .. or use ScrollLock while booting (and remove any 'quiet' boot options) and use Shift+Up/Down arrows to scroll whiile scrolllocked - then release to keep booting |
| 23:10.10 | enouf | i will not tell you either way samo9789 - it's your data - you take chances ... |
| 23:12.05 | sylar | thanks enouf , funny that it is not default because of bugs in sarge |
| 23:12.21 | enouf | samo9789: i wonder what's on sdd1 :-P i mean if it's a different FS other than ext2/3, i'd expect those messages from much earlier |
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| 23:12.41 | samo9789 | it is a ext3 |
| 23:12.41 | enouf | doesn't have to run _right_now_ after all .. but soon |
| 23:12.52 | Lord | is there a way to visualize the use of my bandwith with the details of processes ? |
| 23:13.07 | enouf | sylar: bugs is also a bunny |
| 23:13.21 | amphi | enouf: good-oh - running does so little for your gravitas |
| 23:13.26 | Lord | i'd like to see that firefox use 40kb/s rtorrent 30kb/s .... |
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| 23:13.51 | sylar | enouf, yes I love bunny |
| 23:13.52 | enouf | amphi: tell it to the terrafirma :-P |
| 23:14.16 | enouf | Lord: iftop for one |
| 23:14.23 | enouf | ntop perhaps .. |
| 23:14.44 | enouf | etherape for nice GUI, though not sure if per process/app or what |
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| 23:15.26 | enouf | samo9789: well is sdd1 your / FS ? |
| 23:15.49 | samo9789 | sdd1 used to be this backup drive that now is sdf1 |
| 23:16.11 | samo9789 | my system is on /dev/hda1 |
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| 23:16.51 | enouf | samo9789: after checking that the last field for / FS in /etc/fstab is '1' and all others' last fields are either '0' or '2' - use 'touch /forcefsck' to check your rootfs upon a reboot |
| 23:17.14 | enouf | man fstab ; and then there's also shutdown -rF now |
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| 23:17.20 | enouf | man shutdown |
| 23:17.29 | samo9789 | @enouf okay thanks |
| 23:17.55 | enouf | samo9789: man tune2fs to enable times/dates/mount amounts to autocheck / FS |
| 23:18.00 | Lord | apparently iftop doesn't show process but peers ... it'not very efficient |
| 23:18.02 | enouf | if ext2/3 is / |
| 23:18.31 | enouf | learn how to set it to display correctly |
| 23:18.45 | enouf | and wtf is a peer? |
| 23:19.06 | amphi | something like an apfel? |
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| 23:19.25 | enouf | maybe he meant 'pear'? |
| 23:19.29 | samo9789 | @enouf it's going for a reboot and check now, thanks |
| 23:19.37 | enouf | sure, np |
| 23:19.38 | AcTiVaTe | pear2pear ? :P |
| 23:19.47 | Coweater | a peer is a host your machine has a connection with |
| 23:19.55 | enouf | heh B2B == Bozo2Bozo ? |
| 23:20.26 | enouf | Coweater: not necessarily - it means literally, a friend |
| 23:20.35 | enouf | or similar |
| 23:20.40 | Coweater | context... |
| 23:20.59 | enouf | coworker, fellow student, etc .. not necessarily informal |
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| 23:21.27 | enouf | i'm waiting for him to ask me which tool will list threads |
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| 23:22.10 | octoserver | bsides dpkg -i , what are some other params that are good to use whilt installing? :) |
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| 23:22.47 | enouf | apt-get install ... |
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| 23:23.07 | octoserver | i can use apt-get with .debs? |
| 23:23.13 | enouf | no |
| 23:23.23 | enouf | why do you have .debs? |
| 23:23.24 | octoserver | oh sorry ,my ques was not clear |
| 23:23.25 | adb | "..displays a table of current bandwidth usage by pairs of hosts" < apt-cache show iftop |
| 23:23.33 | octoserver | i have a .deb i need to install |
| 23:23.42 | enouf | so, dpkg -i it ;-) |
| 23:23.51 | octoserver | what should I pass to dpkg besides -i ? |
| 23:23.58 | octoserver | just -i ? |
| 23:24.14 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.28 | enouf | octoserver: you could tweak a file like /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/NN-debconf if you like |
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| 23:24.42 | enouf | where NN is a two digit number |
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| 23:25.09 | enouf | that controls whether or not you're prompted for configuration during installation |
| 23:25.26 | enouf | also dpkg-reconfigure debconf will set that up |
| 23:25.27 | foetus | dpkg -i *.deb, imho.. |
| 23:25.27 | dpkg | installs *.deb, imho.. into foetus's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 23:25.39 | enouf | heh |
| 23:26.00 | foetus | haha.. |
| 23:26.24 | enouf | foetus: did dpkg use titanium screws? or steel ones? :-P |
| 23:26.26 | foetus | why not. |
| 23:28.01 | foetus | * dpkg says: "take a look at your preferences" |
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| 23:28.28 | foetus | joke. |
| 23:28.43 | enouf | !pal foetus |
| 23:28.43 | dpkg | points at foetus and laughs |
| 23:29.20 | enouf | ;-) |
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| 23:29.49 | foetus | interesting :)) |
| 23:30.05 | foetus | lets troll.. |
| 23:30.53 | meder | :) |
| 23:30.55 | adb | in #debian-offtopic ? |
| 23:32.39 | jpinx-eeepc | dpkg -l |
| 23:32.39 | dpkg | jpinx-eeepc: i don't know |
| 23:32.57 | jpinx-eeepc | :-/ |
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| 23:34.42 | foetus | i still can't wait for the new sid kernel -- 2.6.29-4 |
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| 23:36.47 | enouf | speaking of which foetus -- 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1137 not upgraded. |
| 23:36.55 | enouf | it's that time again ;-) |
| 23:37.06 | foetus | 2.6.26 is marked as oldstable :) |
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| 23:45.00 | foetus | ok, lets sleep. it has been a long day. |
| 23:45.28 | petemc | i thought a day was a fixed length |
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| 23:47.24 | peterrooney | petemc: it is fixed, but won't fit into a short. |
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| 23:49.09 | petemc | then long is implied, rendering the comment to be somewhat of a tautology |
| 23:49.22 | petemc | or pleonastic at least |
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| 23:51.56 | bl4ckc00k1e | hi people |
| 23:52.10 | bl4ckc00k1e | somebody know how can i list, the services of rcconf? |
| 23:52.28 | bl4ckc00k1e | i wana stop some of them.... but i dont know the real names of the services.. |
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| 23:53.13 | bl4ckc00k1e | for example i wana stop imaps and pop3.. but there i dont see nothing of them.... somebody can help me plis? |
| 23:53.46 | petemc | bl4ckc00k1e: what does netstat -puant|grep 110 as root say? |
| 23:54.14 | edea86 | any IM that supports audio call with MSN clients? please not aMSN, I've trying all afternoon to get it to work without success... |
| 23:54.21 | bl4ckc00k1e | petemc, lsiten |
| 23:54.35 | bl4ckc00k1e | ooo |
| 23:54.44 | bl4ckc00k1e | intetd?? is the name of the proces? |
| 23:54.51 | bl4ckc00k1e | inetd* |
| 23:55.04 | petemc | its the superserver, look in /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 23:56.07 | bl4ckc00k1e | petemc, yeah is a rpc server |
| 23:56.20 | bl4ckc00k1e | is only for imaps and pop3 n? |
| 23:56.31 | bl4ckc00k1e | i wana stop it, beacause i never use it |
| 23:56.50 | petemc | what is the line for 110 in inetd.conf ? |
| 23:56.51 | bl4ckc00k1e | in rcconf there isnt |
| 23:57.06 | petemc | its started by inetd, its not stand alone |
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| 23:58.30 | bl4ckc00k1e | i dont know... |
| 23:58.43 | edea86 | any IM that supports audio call with MSN clients? please not aMSN, I've trying all afternoon to get it to work without success... |
| 23:58.45 | bl4ckc00k1e | i search in the source |
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| 23:59.29 | bl4ckc00k1e | sorry for paste, that? |
| 23:59.30 | bl4ckc00k1e | imap2 stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/imapd |
| 23:59.30 | bl4ckc00k1e | imaps stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/imapd |
| 23:59.30 | bl4ckc00k1e | pop-3 stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.qpopper -f /etc/qpopper.conf |
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| 23:59.53 | petemc | oh dear |
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