| 00:00.10 | JPT | mhh |
| 00:00.16 | JPT | you can try http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum |
| 00:00.17 | TongueOfColicab | wait |
| 00:00.30 | TongueOfColicab | im using it on burned DVD |
| 00:00.41 | TongueOfColicab | calculating summary data size |
| 00:00.41 | JPT | oh |
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| 00:01.01 | TongueOfColicab | i was doing it on the mounted iso |
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| 00:02.11 | TongueOfColicab | same result |
| 00:02.19 | JPT | so they are identical? |
| 00:02.37 | TongueOfColicab | nou, same bad result, no files processed |
| 00:02.45 | JPT | mhh.. |
| 00:03.14 | JPT | try using a different verifier.... we just need the md5sum of the iso and of the whole dvd... |
| 00:03.34 | JPT | i'm very sorry, but i need to go asleep now |
| 00:03.44 | TongueOfColicab | ok |
| 00:03.46 | TongueOfColicab | thanks for help |
| 00:03.50 | TongueOfColicab | anyway |
| 00:03.50 | JPT | no problem :) |
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| 00:05.49 | luckydespot | can you disable the animations you seewhen you minimize windows ? |
| 00:06.14 | TongueOfColicab | didnt you go yet buddy+ |
| 00:06.35 | TongueOfColicab | the iso has a md5sum.txt file |
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| 00:06.58 | luckydespot | what i do when i just have the iso |
| 00:07.04 | luckydespot | is md5sum the file and google the hash |
| 00:07.10 | luckydespot | f it shows up its green |
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| 00:20.23 | laurus | majhool: It didn't work unfortunately. |
| 00:20.31 | laurus | majhool: Is there any other way to set DPI for GNOME? |
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| 00:22.20 | Azar | hello honorables |
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| 00:22.44 | laurus | Hi Azar. |
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| 00:24.28 | laurus | Anyone know how to change the DPI in GNOME? |
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| 00:25.42 | Polarina | laurus: Displays have no such thing as inches. It's all an illusionary. |
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| 00:26.12 | laurus | Polarina: Ok :) My problem is that on my laptop, 10 point Sans looks really big and bold, and 9 pt is a bit too small. I want 10 point to look like it normally does in Ubuntu and on my Debian desktop. |
| 00:26.18 | Polarina | laurus: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Details... |
| 00:26.33 | Polarina | laurus: Increase the resolution. |
| 00:27.23 | laurus | Polarina: Hey thanks, that worked! I set it to 96 and they all look fine now! |
| 00:27.43 | laurus | Great, now I can replace Ubuntu with Debian on my laptop. Thanks so much! |
| 00:27.57 | Polarina | laurus: Reinstall. |
| 00:28.37 | laurus | Polarina: Thank you for your help :) |
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| 00:33.21 | aetheria | i'm trying to do a very minimal install for a file server. first i chose a 250MB disk and installation failed. then i chose a 350MB one and it failed again. yet documentation suggests that minimal installs can run in as little as 50MB so what gives? |
| 00:33.57 | aetheria | its failing at the "select and install software" step before i even install anything |
| 00:34.11 | aetheria | i think the package lists must be too large for it or something |
| 00:34.36 | azeem | aetheria: are you selecting "file server" during the installation? |
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| 00:34.56 | aetheria | azeem: did not get to the point of selecting |
| 00:35.06 | azeem | how does it fail |
| 00:35.20 | aetheria | "Select and install software" -> press enter, then it seems to update package lists and fails |
| 00:35.33 | aetheria | let me see the log console... |
| 00:36.00 | aetheria | dpkg failing to write record because of no space left on device |
| 00:36.00 | dpkg | aetheria: i don't know |
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| 00:36.42 | aetheria | its trying to upgrade 6 packages: acpid apt apt-utils udev etc. |
| 00:36.46 | azeem | aetheria: how much RAM do you have? |
| 00:37.43 | aetheria | well i see that /target/var/cache/apt/archives is full of stuff |
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| 00:37.58 | aetheria | so maybe just clear it out and see how it goes |
| 00:38.18 | aetheria | when it installed the base system it must not have cleaned out the cache |
| 00:38.29 | gmap | what is the command to eject a cdrom? I do not have the eject command installed and wondered if there is another way |
| 00:38.46 | Polarina | gmap: eject is the command. |
| 00:39.21 | gmap | no other way? |
| 00:39.45 | Polarina | gmap: Install eject. |
| 00:39.55 | gmap | ok thx |
| 00:40.03 | joke92 | how i can make ris server with debian to install windows images via network |
| 00:40.40 | kronic | haven't fixed my issue with iwl3945, modprobe actually finds it, and with verbose on outputs install /bin/true, however its not loaded because its not in lsmod |
| 00:41.24 | gmap | i have this gprs modem usb device that when I plug it in, it acts as a cdrom, and only after i eject it then the gprs modem loads. Is there a way to bypass the cdrom part without having the eject it? |
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| 00:44.37 | aetheria | hmm well i even skip the install software step and just installed grub and now after reboot it fails at "GRUB loading, please wait..." |
| 00:45.12 | aetheria | how to install a really minimal system? |
| 00:45.36 | Polarina | aetheria: Floppy? |
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| 00:45.56 | aetheria | have no floppy drive. could use virtual floppies i guess |
| 00:46.06 | aetheria | but what difference would there be beside the media? |
| 00:46.59 | Polarina | aetheria: Being really small? |
| 00:47.36 | bluethundr | okay, very excited. I was successfully able to rsync to a foreign VPS host I just rented. :-) |
| 00:48.24 | bluethundr | now i just have to automate the deal. question: if a user has to issue sudo in order to execute a command, when you automate the job using cron do you have to issue sudo in the command there? |
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| 00:51.16 | Polarina | bluethundr: It depends on what permissions the cron process has. |
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| 00:51.39 | bluethundr | Polarina: ok. I believe cron runs as root, but I could be mistaken |
| 00:51.54 | bluethundr | Polarina: it's pretty much a default Debian config when it comes to cron |
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| 00:57.31 | aetheria | Polarina: expert mode has a lowmem option |
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| 01:18.50 | macman_ | just wondering .. there anyway to have multip apt-gets running at teh same time ? |
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| 01:25.43 | chasing`Sol | macman_, only 1 instance of apt* run at a time |
| 01:26.02 | ComradeHaz | hi guys |
| 01:26.24 | ComradeHaz | bit worried about one of my HDDs. how do I force fsck to check all my disks on next boot? |
| 01:27.14 | macman_ | boo |
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| 01:30.41 | chasing`Sol | ComradeHaz, # touch /forcefsck |
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| 01:31.26 | ComradeHaz | is it a bad idea to run it if I'm concerned about 1 of the 2 disks in a mirrored RAID? |
| 01:31.33 | ComradeHaz | (ie identical copies) |
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| 01:33.33 | chasing`Sol | i think it's not be risky |
| 01:33.50 | pingouin | a good alternative for acroread (from adobe) for read pdf nicely on debian lenny amd64 ? please, many thanks for any advice |
| 01:33.51 | ComradeHaz | hmm |
| 01:33.51 | ComradeHaz | fair |
| 01:34.12 | ComradeHaz | okular? |
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| 01:34.26 | ComradeHaz | pingouin: okular :) |
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| 01:36.06 | pingouin | ComradeHaz: thanks |
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| 01:38.58 | zero_vector | http://computerscienceramblings.blogspot.com/2009/05/java-runs-benchmark-in-half-time-of-c.html |
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| 01:59.43 | koshari1 | i want to download nvidia-glx-71 to place in my apt cache to use on an unconnected machine but when i try apt wants to uninstall my current PCs glx-180! how can i add the package to my cache without screwing my current drivers? |
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| 02:05.39 | Stanlin | HElp! |
| 02:06.16 | Stanlin | how to setup a laptop with: "acpi compliant control method battery" ? |
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| 02:09.50 | Stanlin | how to setup a laptop with: "acpi compliant control method battery" ? when i hibernate my laptop, it wont boot anymore, until i remove the battery |
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| 02:10.27 | matt7676 | if I do "apt-cache seach packagename", it will search a description as well. How to avoid it? I would like to have "apt-cache seach packagename" output as "aptitude search packagename". |
| 02:13.48 | koshari1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.48 | koshari1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.48 | koshari1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.22 | matt7676 | koshari1: thanks! |
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| 02:16.34 | PingFloyd | anyone else having problems with name resolution with certain versions of glibc? |
| 02:16.54 | Polarina | PingFloyd: In squeeze, yes. |
| 02:16.59 | PingFloyd | Polarina: yeah |
| 02:17.08 | Polarina | PingFloyd: Add 4.2.2.2 as your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:17.16 | PingFloyd | with versions 2.9-4, 2.9-8, and 2.9-9 |
| 02:17.23 | PingFloyd | 2.9-7 works fine though |
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| 02:17.41 | Polarina | PingFloyd: Add that address as your nameserver and your problems are solved. |
| 02:18.20 | PingFloyd | I'll try to give it a shot thanks |
| 02:18.28 | PingFloyd | however, I'm running dhcp |
| 02:18.35 | Polarina | PingFloyd: aptitude install resolvconf && echo "nameserver 4.2.2.2" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head |
| 02:18.43 | Polarina | PingFloyd: DHCP or not, won't matter. :) |
| 02:19.07 | Stanlin | HELP I want to return to Debian, please, how to setup a laptop with: "acpi compliant control method battery" ? when i hibernate my laptop, it wont boot anymore, until i remove the battery (hibernation just works fine on windows ) |
| 02:19.25 | epsas | whoa |
| 02:19.31 | Polarina | Stanlin: Then don't hibernate. |
| 02:19.39 | epsas | well |
| 02:19.47 | \amethyst | PingFloyd: if you use resolvconf, you can do what Polarina said. Otherwise, if dhcp3-client is your DHCP client, you can use prepend domain-name-servers "4.2.2.2"; in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 02:19.49 | epsas | there are two types of hibernation |
| 02:19.51 | Stanlin | Polarina: I need to, its a laptop |
| 02:19.53 | Polarina | Stanlin: If your battery isn't ACPI compliant, there isn't much you can do about it. |
| 02:19.54 | epsas | software and hardware hibernation |
| 02:20.15 | Stanlin | Polarina: battery IS acpi compliant |
| 02:20.26 | epsas | you *should* be able to do a software suspend no matter what kind of battery you have |
| 02:21.11 | Stanlin | epsas: when i hibernate, it goes fine, but when i turn on the Laptop, the screen goes black... and the laptop wont start up |
| 02:21.13 | PingFloyd | thanks \amethyst and Polarina |
| 02:21.30 | Stanlin | epsas: how to 'software' hibernate? |
| 02:22.06 | PingFloyd | I noticed that putting single-request in the resolv.conf didn't work |
| 02:22.21 | Polarina | PingFloyd: resolv.conf is automatically generated. |
| 02:22.30 | Polarina | PingFloyd: And that line has to be at the top. |
| 02:22.42 | PingFloyd | Polarina: ok, no wonder |
| 02:23.26 | PingFloyd | so in the dhclient.conf is where I'd put that? |
| 02:23.31 | Polarina | PingFloyd: Adding it to resolv.conf will only work for a short moment. You will have to install resolvconf and append "nameserver 4.2.2.2" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head |
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| 02:23.50 | Polarina | PingFloyd: You don't need to do both methods. |
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| 02:24.42 | gushix | Hi. Any idea why I can't seem to stop the mysql deamon on my lenny server? # /etc/init.d/mysql stop |
| 02:24.42 | gushix | Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed! |
| 02:24.43 | Stanlin | epsas: Polarina ? |
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| 02:25.00 | gushix | (as root) |
| 02:25.03 | Polarina | gushix: Try killall -9 |
| 02:25.19 | gushix | Polarina: no risk of data loss? |
| 02:25.30 | Polarina | gushix: Of course there are risks... |
| 02:25.46 | gushix | Polarina: why does the stopping fail? |
| 02:25.52 | Polarina | gushix: Just as much as an immediate power failure. |
| 02:26.00 | Polarina | gushix: Check the logs. |
| 02:26.35 | PingFloyd | Polarina: so I aptitude install resolvconf. Then put nameserver 4.2.2.2 to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and prepend domain-name-servers "4.2.2.2" in /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 02:26.50 | Polarina | PingFloyd: You can drop the last part. |
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| 02:27.20 | Polarina | PingFloyd: Ok. DNS resolving should work now then. :) |
| 02:27.24 | PingFloyd | Polarina: so in otherwords set the nameserver in either of those 2 files? |
| 02:27.39 | Polarina | PingFloyd: No, just do the steps I told you to do. |
| 02:27.48 | Polarina | PingFloyd: I don't know if the latter one works or not. |
| 02:27.52 | gushix | Polarina: do u know where's the relevant log located? |
| 02:28.20 | PingFloyd | ok thanks |
| 02:28.23 | Polarina | gushix: /var/log/ |
| 02:28.43 | gaintsura | hey all, my system is hanging up, on me, until I move the mouse, I recently took the tags apic=force acpi=off out of my boot line, however I need acpi to be on, so that is alright I suppose.. but how can I stop my system from hanging like this? |
| 02:29.16 | gushix | Polarina: mysql.log there is 0 B |
| 02:29.23 | Stanlin | help? |
| 02:29.27 | Polarina | gaintsura: Are you sure it isn't a computer virus? |
| 02:29.45 | gaintsura | Polarina: yes I'm sure |
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| 02:30.00 | gaintsura | happened to me previously on ubuntu 8.04 as well |
| 02:30.03 | Polarina | gaintsura: Have you tried unplugging your mouse? |
| 02:30.11 | gaintsura | it a laptop, touch pad |
| 02:30.23 | Polarina | gaintsura: Yes, have you tried unplugging it? |
| 02:30.45 | epsas | ahhh |
| 02:30.59 | Polarina | gaintsura: Have you tried plugging in an external mouse? |
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| 02:31.02 | epsas | gaintsuta - i had that problem with my system once |
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| 02:31.29 | epsas | i don't remember how i fixed it |
| 02:31.39 | gaintsura | and its not the mouse, its the system |
| 02:31.39 | gaintsura | .... |
| 02:31.39 | gaintsura | you cant unplug a touchpad |
| 02:31.58 | gaintsura | Polarina: I only plug my mouse in when I'm on windows, which is a totally separate os from debian |
| 02:32.00 | Polarina | gaintsura: Yes, you can. |
| 02:32.39 | gaintsura | Polarina: you don't understand what I'm telling you |
| 02:32.48 | Polarina | No, I can't. :( |
| 02:32.50 | gaintsura | its not a mouse problem |
| 02:32.55 | gaintsura | its my system |
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| 02:34.01 | gaintsura | yar @ non helpful people.. |
| 02:35.20 | kanon-mat | what handles mouse input? evdev? |
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| 02:40.53 | Stanlin | !tuxonice |
| 02:40.53 | dpkg | suspend2 is probably the old name for the TuxOnIce project which is a set of kernel patches that let you suspend your laptop to disk within half a minute and then wake it into the same state. It is found at http://www.tuxonice.net/ . Also ask me about <suspend>. |
| 02:41.06 | Stanlin | !suspend |
| 02:41.06 | dpkg | Suspend can mean either suspend to disk (a.k.a. hibernate) or suspend to ram. The in-kernel suspend now works pretty well in etch (and even better in lenny) . There are also kernel patches that provide more features such as <tuxonice>. Installing the uswsusp and hibernate packages along with a front-end like gnome-power-manager or kpowersave should be enough. Also ask me about <suspend troubleshooting>. <swapwake> |
| 02:41.28 | Stanlin | !suspend troubleshooting |
| 02:41.28 | dpkg | A guide for troubleshooting suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disk problems is at http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram . The tools it talks about are available in the debian package uswsusp. |
| 02:42.04 | Stanlin | suse? O.o |
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| 02:45.49 | gaintsura | lets see how long my system goes this time before it hangs |
| 02:45.51 | gaintsura | =| |
| 02:48.06 | gaintsura | !apci |
| 02:48.06 | dpkg | hmm... acpi is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or http://acpi.sf.net/, or generally better than APM but see also <swsusp>, or for a list of supported systems/BIOSes, see http://acpi.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/InstallationReports |
| 02:48.30 | gaintsura | !apic |
| 02:48.30 | dpkg | apic is, like, an Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC) is a more intricate Programmable Interrupt Controller (PIC). It contains a magnitude more outputs and much more complex priority schemas. One of the best known APIC architectures, the Intel APIC Architecture, is now replacing the original 8259A PIC in newer x86 PCs. |
| 02:48.49 | gaintsura | hm |
| 02:48.58 | gaintsura | didn't quite answer my question |
| 02:50.20 | Stanlin | im also having problems with ACPI |
| 02:50.31 | Stanlin | my advanced laptop aint hibernating well with debian |
| 02:52.01 | gaintsura | hibernate has always had problems from what I've run into |
| 02:52.28 | Stanlin | yeah, its the only thing that stops me to move to debian forever |
| 02:52.35 | gaintsura | I'd move anyways |
| 02:52.37 | gaintsura | but thats me |
| 02:52.55 | Stanlin | do you know if we have a package for tuxonice? |
| 02:54.11 | gaintsura | no idea |
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| 02:54.29 | gaintsura | if you cant find it via apt-cache search it might be in contrib or non-free |
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| 02:54.52 | Stanlin | double U tf |
| 02:54.57 | Stanlin | yes there is a patch... |
| 02:55.05 | Stanlin | i guess ill endup compiling my own kernel |
| 02:55.11 | Stanlin | oki doki |
| 02:55.12 | Stanlin | lets rool |
| 02:55.25 | Stanlin | downloads debian.. again.... |
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| 03:02.15 | Stanlin | !tv |
| 03:02.15 | dpkg | tv is probably KILL YOUR TELEVISION! (by watching it until it burns out), or modprobe bttv msp3400 tuner; wmtvmotv, or xawtv, or tvtime |
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| 03:03.13 | epsas | !epsas |
| 03:03.13 | dpkg | rumour has it, epsas is not your fathers epsasnova. |
| 03:03.26 | epsas | whoa! that quote is from the 90's |
| 03:03.34 | epsas | hearts dpkg |
| 03:03.45 | meder | 80s! |
| 03:04.04 | Stanlin | epsas, does testing worth to install? |
| 03:04.35 | epsas | Stanlin - not unless you want to be testing |
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| 03:04.44 | epsas | otherwise just use backported packages |
| 03:05.01 | epsas | if you need the functionality of newer software |
| 03:06.01 | Stanlin | epsas: good advice... |
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| 03:06.31 | Stanlin | epsas: we are building a Live Cd based on debian, i should be fine developing with lenny? |
| 03:07.05 | nabziF | after a recent restart of gnome-terminal ... it stopped using the "neep" font I prefer. it appears to be using some other bolded font for regular text. the preferences tool displays the right font with the right size ... but the terminal window has some other font. any ideas where to look for a fix? |
| 03:07.25 | dimedo | how could i install additional modules into a debian installer image? |
| 03:07.37 | gaintsura | well there my system goes locking up on me again.. |
| 03:08.00 | Stanlin | ok wish me luck... here i go Again... ... BRB in debian.... |
| 03:08.19 | gaintsura | I've ran a memtest, didn't see anything wrong.. tried changing apic=force to apic=off still getting lockups |
| 03:09.12 | pobega | gaintsura: have you tried noapic? I know that fixes a lot of problems with things like that. |
| 03:09.53 | meder | AHHHHHHHH |
| 03:09.57 | meder | HATTON VS PAC NOW! |
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| 03:10.28 | gaintsura | omg pobega you're a life saver thats what I was looking for! |
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| 03:10.40 | pobega | gaintsura: haha no problem, hope it works. |
| 03:10.50 | gaintsura | will report back |
| 03:11.39 | gaintsura | would be nice if I could access my terminal to edit it |
| 03:12.05 | gaintsura | 4 letters... freeze.. 4 letters.... freeze |
| 03:12.22 | pobega | you could just pass it as an argument at boot |
| 03:12.23 | pobega | append it to the kernel line |
| 03:13.10 | gaintsura | indeed... |
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| 03:18.59 | gaintsura | so lets see how that holds up.. |
| 03:20.14 | gaintsura | changed to noapic |
| 03:20.32 | gaintsura | lets see how long my system holds up now |
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| 03:25.35 | pobega | gaintsura: still running well? |
| 03:26.01 | gaintsura | so far |
| 03:26.11 | gaintsura | takes about 15 minutes before it starts to happen |
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| 03:31.32 | enouf | gaintsura: noapic is silly |
| 03:31.46 | enouf | what's the issue? |
| 03:32.47 | pobega | enouf: I wasn't sure if noapic was the issue, but I know that on a lot of older computer it helps with awkward problems like that -- I've had to use it on an old Dell |
| 03:32.57 | enouf | gaintsura: is that a laptop? CPU is? laptop-mode installed? hibernate and acpi-* installed? |
| 03:33.21 | gaintsura | my system locks up a few minutes after booting, it freezes and then causes my system to lock after a while, but when it freezes I have to move my mouse to make it work |
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| 03:33.51 | gaintsura | AMD TurionX2, Toshiba Satellite A215, laptop-mode is installed |
| 03:33.56 | gaintsura | hibernate, etc are installed |
| 03:34.01 | enouf | gaintsura: old dells suck ass .. and yes ; might require a weird param .. but acpi=force lapic works on my p2 :-P |
| 03:34.23 | enouf | something is wrong gaintsura |
| 03:34.32 | gaintsura | no shit |
| 03:34.33 | gaintsura | =P |
| 03:35.06 | enouf | gaintsura: "but when it freezes I have to move my mouse to make it work" <== fixes it? |
| 03:35.17 | gaintsura | not really |
| 03:35.21 | gaintsura | it fixes it for a few seconds |
| 03:35.25 | gaintsura | then freezes again |
| 03:35.31 | gaintsura | noapic seems to have fixed it so far |
| 03:35.59 | enouf | gaintsura: pastebin cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 03:35.59 | dimedo | is there a xts.ko module in the standard debian installation? |
| 03:36.17 | enouf | gaintsura: you might now be only using one core |
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| 03:37.04 | enouf | dimedo: in .26 there is |
| 03:37.07 | enouf | ~$ modinfo xts |
| 03:37.07 | enouf | filename: /lib/modules/2.6.28-1-686/kernel/crypto/xts.ko |
| 03:37.22 | enouf | ooops |
| 03:37.32 | enouf | forgot i'm booted into .28 |
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| 03:38.00 | dimedo | enouf, thats not stable right? |
| 03:38.35 | gaintsura | enouf: its showing 2 of listings in there |
| 03:38.39 | laurus | I noticed that if I use aptitude instead of apt-get, the package manager icon that shows up in GNOME says I have updates even if I have already installed them via aptitude. I don't recall this happening with apt-get. Is this just a fluke or should I be using apt-get rather than aptitude? |
| 03:38.55 | enouf | dimedo: ~$ find /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/ -name 'xts*' |
| 03:38.57 | enouf | /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/crypto/xts.ko |
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| 03:39.44 | dimedo | enouf, can you check which packet it's from? |
| 03:39.58 | enouf | laurus: integration of either apt or aptitude into DEs is ... er .. flaky |
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| 03:40.26 | laurus | enouf: DEs? |
| 03:40.39 | enouf | dimedo: it's from linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 |
| 03:40.50 | enouf | Desktop Env |
| 03:41.14 | laurus | enouf: Oh, right :) I noticed in the Debian documentation that aptitude is the recommended package manager, so I decided to use it. |
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| 03:41.24 | dimedo | enouf, thanks |
| 03:41.44 | laurus | enouf: Should I just update using the icon instead of running aptitude update, to avoid the weird conflicts? |
| 03:42.05 | enouf | laurus: shame .. but ok .. many of us still love our apt-get |
| 03:42.35 | enouf | laurus: i don't do icons, nor DEs, so i can't say |
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| 03:43.03 | mcclaust | witam |
| 03:43.05 | laurus | enouf: OK thanks :) |
| 03:43.17 | mcclaust | oh wrong chanel ;) |
| 03:43.36 | enouf | laurus: to update i do; apt-get update in a shell / xterm .. you can do aptitude update |
| 03:44.03 | enouf | all that does is update your 'cache' |
| 03:44.53 | enouf | "apt-cache search ...." is what it's for .. /msg dpkg grounding and read and install the debian reference |
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| 03:47.04 | enouf | dimedo: AFAICT .. even if the lenny kernel version isn't exact as i've shown, i know it's a .26 version, and i've had my debian .26 prior to lenny release, so all should be fine |
| 03:47.35 | dimedo | enouf, the problem is, i need the module for the installer initramfs |
| 03:47.46 | dimedo | enouf, and this seems to use a different kernel |
| 03:48.04 | enouf | dimedo: have you read the installation guide? |
| 03:48.10 | dimedo | no |
| 03:48.21 | enouf | and yes, it is a slimmed down -486 kernel .. |
| 03:48.30 | enouf | !ig |
| 03:48.31 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r8) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual . See also <installer firmware>. |
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| 03:49.29 | enouf | dimedo: there are a few troublesome modules left out of the installer .. never heard of xts though .. |
| 03:49.41 | Malle | hello my system is to old so the debian installer CD wont boot, what can i do to solve it ? |
| 03:49.54 | epsas | hmm |
| 03:49.55 | enouf | Malle: not again ... ugh |
| 03:50.02 | epsas | is it the panasonic cd thing |
| 03:50.04 | epsas | uhh |
| 03:50.07 | epsas | let me remember |
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| 03:50.15 | enouf | Malle: tell your dutch BIOS you're not using OS/2 |
| 03:50.22 | dimedo | enouf, xts is marked as experimental, thats the problem |
| 03:50.26 | Malle | enouf hi :D |
| 03:50.41 | enouf | dimedo: where? when? why? |
| 03:51.10 | dimedo | enouf, kernel.org, it seems |
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| 03:51.31 | Malle | enouf yeah i know but on the installer cd it says, "For the impatient ones: you can start the installation program easily by booting off this disc. Note that not all (esp. older) systems support this." |
| 03:51.32 | enouf | Malle: listen .. install Xpoop then go to http://goodbye-windows.com ; done |
| 03:51.53 | dimedo | enouf, i don't know when, but it's an often heard reason why the installer UI doesnt support it. |
| 03:51.59 | enouf | Malle: wtf? |
| 03:52.04 | Malle | i dont have windows on the box enouf :E |
| 03:52.12 | enouf | Malle: install it! |
| 03:52.23 | Malle | ok, but can i remove it after |
| 03:52.29 | Malle | i dont want shitwindows on my computer |
| 03:52.29 | enouf | Malle: just to install debian |
| 03:52.35 | enouf | yes! |
| 03:52.36 | Malle | i cant :o |
| 03:52.49 | Malle | what a mess |
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| 03:52.56 | Malle | windows -> debian |
| 03:53.03 | enouf | Malle: your p3 BIOS is a mess |
| 03:53.11 | Malle | i know :) |
| 03:53.24 | enouf | Malle: check with acpi.sf.net and check blacklisted Mobos |
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| 03:57.48 | Malle | enouf im heading to worknow, when i get home i will get into this ^^ .. i really need to fix this now hehe... cu untill then i guess :E |
| 03:58.36 | enouf | http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/blacklist.html |
| 03:58.49 | enouf | crap .. broken here |
| 03:59.30 | enouf | is that URL broken for others? |
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| 04:00.13 | enouf | i get; An error has been encountered in accessing this page. 1. Server: acpi.sourceforge.net 2. URL path: /documentation/blacklist.html 3. Error notes: NONE 4. Error type: 404 5. Request method: GET 6. Request query string: NONE 7. Time: 2009-05-03 03:58:22 UTC (1241323102) |
| 04:00.59 | enouf | text is; <html><head><title>Encountered a 404 error</title> <body> <p>An error has been encountered in accessing this page. <p>1. <b>Server:</b> acpi.sourceforge.net <br />2. <b>URL path:</b> /documentation/blacklist.html |
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| 04:03.17 | funkygibbon | tips as to why my pipe char is coming out as a tilde? |
| 04:03.36 | enouf | thanks |
| 04:04.09 | enouf | !keymap |
| 04:04.09 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <set up x> or <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 04:04.18 | funkygibbon | as far as i can tell, it's the only chap thats different |
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| 04:04.39 | enouf | wtf is chap? |
| 04:05.12 | funkygibbon | challenge handshake authentication |
| 04:05.34 | Manoj | Chap \Chap\, n. [From {Chap}, v. t. & i.] 1. A cleft, crack, or chink, as in the surface of the earth, or in the skin. |
| 04:05.49 | enouf | heh |
| 04:06.06 | enouf | funkygibbon: you forgot Protocol |
| 04:06.09 | mib_eut164 | how do i mount a drive in linux? |
| 04:06.16 | funkygibbon | figured you could fill in the blanks |
| 04:06.35 | Manoj | Challenge-Handshake Authentication Protocol: <networking, security, standard, protocol> (CHAP) An {authentication} scheme used by {PPP} servers to validate the identity of the originator of the connection upon connection or any time later. |
| 04:06.35 | enouf | mib_eut164: mount it |
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| 04:08.08 | enouf | mib_eut164: as root or sudo ; mkdir /mnt/point ; mount -t FSType -o options-here,more /dev/hda5 /mnt/point |
| 04:09.13 | enouf | mib_eut164: you mount a FS or a partition .. not a drive .. unless you are moi ;-) |
| 04:10.24 | enouf | df -hT shows; /dev/hdb reiserfs 15G 9.9G 4.8G 68% /mnt/loop1 |
| 04:10.51 | enouf | fdisk -l --> Disk /dev/hdb doesn't contain a valid partition table |
| 04:10.53 | funkygibbon | reiser ? |
| 04:10.55 | funkygibbon | why |
| 04:11.02 | enouf | yerp .. fast |
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| 04:11.18 | funkygibbon | stability fixed nowdays? |
| 04:11.24 | enouf | loop1 is a misnomer .. just a /mnt/point name |
| 04:11.28 | enouf | 3.6 |
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| 04:12.58 | enouf | it's odd though .. it's a 40G disk .. but df says it's 15G .. hrmm.. |
| 04:13.16 | enouf | Disk /dev/hdb: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes |
| 04:14.19 | enouf | mib .. yo! |
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| 04:15.00 | makabrosko | hi |
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| 04:15.41 | compgrokker | hi |
| 04:15.45 | compgrokker | :P |
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| 04:15.52 | makabrosko | :P |
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| 04:16.34 | compgrokker | is bored |
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| 04:17.23 | Stanlin | Help hibernation aint working... |
| 04:17.33 | Stanlin | how to patch the kernel to use tuxonice? |
| 04:17.38 | makabrosko | |
| 04:17.40 | makabrosko | downloaded and install debian on my equipment, but installing the boot manager error and he had not installed the grub or lilo to install as I do now? |
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| 04:17.50 | Ricky_RocK | www.topfreesexvideo.com for free sex video and my other site www.criminal-lawyersite.com for criminal people |
| 04:18.04 | funkygibbon | irc spam |
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| 04:18.06 | funkygibbon | that's novel |
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| 04:18.54 | makabrosko | |
| 04:18.56 | makabrosko | someone help me? |
| 04:18.57 | ajavid | makabrosko, which state is your system in currently? You still have the installer running or have you rebooted already |
| 04:19.01 | Stanlin | help 2 here lz |
| 04:19.03 | Stanlin | plz |
| 04:19.46 | ajavid | makabrosko, download a linux live cd, boot with it, and mount your debian parition somewhere, chroot into it and install grub |
| 04:20.39 | Stanlin | !suspend2 |
| 04:20.39 | dpkg | [suspend2] the old name for the TuxOnIce project which is a set of kernel patches that let you suspend your laptop to disk within half a minute and then wake it into the same state. It is found at http://www.tuxonice.net/ . Also ask me about <suspend>. |
| 04:20.43 | d-b | Stanlin: check the md5sum of the cdrom. |
| 04:20.57 | d-b | * makabrosko |
| 04:21.05 | ajavid | !fixmbr |
| 04:21.06 | dpkg | To reinstall boot loader simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <dual boot guide> and <rescue mode>. |
| 04:21.11 | makabrosko | |
| 04:21.12 | Stanlin | d-b: in what reposity is located suspend2 ? |
| 04:21.13 | makabrosko | reboot. it has failed to install the boot manager. |
| 04:21.17 | d-b | Stanlin: yeah i found that if i installed hibernate / s2ram stuff i cant actuall suspend. as it goes... no you need that hting installed. |
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| 04:21.23 | d-b | Stanlin: its not needed.... |
| 04:21.26 | ajavid | !tell makabrosko -about fixmbr |
| 04:21.35 | Stanlin | d-b: how to use tuxonice then? |
| 04:21.44 | d-b | Stanlin: ... you don't need that. |
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| 04:22.05 | Stanlin | d-b: i need to hibernate, or restore my open windows somehow |
| 04:22.07 | d-b | mmm. you can force it i think. don't remember. |
| 04:22.14 | d-b | Stanlin: desktop? |
| 04:22.20 | Stanlin | d-b: laptop |
| 04:22.28 | d-b | just press the hot key to suspend. |
| 04:22.44 | d-b | probably function key then a suspend button (for me its funct + esc) |
| 04:23.16 | Azar | hates the hibernate |
| 04:23.32 | Stanlin | d-b: yes, it hibernate ok, computer hibernates, BUT when i turn it On again, it never does, black screen |
| 04:23.44 | makabrosko | ok |
| 04:23.48 | makabrosko | thanks |
| 04:23.53 | Stanlin | Azar: what do you use to save the state of your desktop ? |
| 04:24.13 | ajavid | http://www.tuxonice.net/HOWTO-2.html#ss2.1 |
| 04:24.30 | d-b | Stanlin: what kernel / debian release. |
| 04:24.51 | d-b | i can't suspend using my own 2.6.29 kernel. but the 2.6.26 works fine. |
| 04:24.51 | Azar | Stanlin: I guess I did not make any arrangements, the monitor blacks out by itself... but it comes back ok |
| 04:24.53 | ajavid | in fact |
| 04:25.14 | Azar | ...not hibernate setup here |
| 04:25.17 | ajavid | judd versions linux-patch-tuxonice |
| 04:25.18 | judd | ajavid: linux-patch-tuxonice -- lenny: 3.0~rc7+2.6.25-1 sid: 3.0~rc7+2.6.26 squeeze: 3.0.1-2 sid: 3.0.1-3 |
| 04:25.18 | Stanlin | d-b: lenny 5 |
| 04:25.34 | ajavid | lenny has 3.0rc7 for 2.6.25-1 |
| 04:25.47 | ajavid | you need to have the 2.6.25-1 kernel and install this patch |
| 04:26.05 | ajavid | then read /usr/share/doc/ wherever the docs ar einstaleld for this package |
| 04:26.11 | ajavid | should tell you whow to get it going |
| 04:26.18 | Stanlin | ajavid: 2.6.26-2-amd64 << i have this one |
| 04:26.30 | Azar | Stanlin: I would guess take a look at your bios settings |
| 04:26.31 | manu_hack | talk about hibernate, once uswsusp works okay on Lenny, after a while my laptop can never wake up from s2disk ... |
| 04:27.55 | Azar | thinks laptops are still barbies :) |
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| 04:28.40 | ajavid | Stanlin, man 8 make-kpkg |
| 04:28.52 | manu_hack | !barbie |
| 04:28.52 | dpkg | Reading the manual is HARD! Let's go shopping. |
| 04:29.05 | ajavid | --added-patches PATCH_THE_KERNEL env var |
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| 04:33.08 | Xenguy | C'mon barbie let's go party! |
| 04:33.16 | Stanlin | !s2ram |
| 04:33.22 | Stanlin | !suspend |
| 04:33.22 | dpkg | Suspend can mean either suspend to disk (a.k.a. hibernate) or suspend to ram. The in-kernel suspend now works pretty well in etch (and even better in lenny) . There are also kernel patches that provide more features such as <tuxonice>. Installing the uswsusp and hibernate packages along with a front-end like gnome-power-manager or kpowersave should be enough. Also ask me about <suspend troubleshooting>. <swapwake> |
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| 04:34.41 | Stanlin | !suspend2 |
| 04:34.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, suspend2 is the old name for the TuxOnIce project which is a set of kernel patches that let you suspend your laptop to disk within half a minute and then wake it into the same state. It is found at http://www.tuxonice.net/ . Also ask me about <suspend>. |
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| 04:38.42 | gaintsura | pobega: I'm still up and running, noapic seems to have worked |
| 04:38.49 | pobega | gaintsura: glad to hear |
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| 04:39.50 | ajavid | you can't literally be running while on irc |
| 04:39.52 | ajavid | at the same time |
| 04:40.01 | ajavid | still up, just not running |
| 04:40.04 | ajavid | so quit lyin' |
| 04:40.07 | ajavid | ;) |
| 04:40.54 | stopher | Hi guys and gals: I just installed Debian Etch on a tower, I have the / 200GB drive and two 160gb drive mounted as /dev/hdc1 and /dev/hdd1. I can see the mounts for /hdc and /hdd but cannot add any files to them unless I browse using Disk Manager. Any suggestions and help would be appreciated! |
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| 04:45.28 | Stanlin | oh im sick of hibernation |
| 04:45.30 | Stanlin | or suspend |
| 04:45.46 | Azar | Stanlin: you giving up? |
| 04:45.48 | Stanlin | what other option do i have to save the desktop state ?? |
| 04:46.24 | Stanlin | Azar: well s2ram aint working, its so annoying the need to take off the battery after everytest |
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| 04:47.03 | Azar | Stanlin: I would say check the bios settings... maybe comes from there |
| 04:47.25 | nabziF | created a new user directory and am debugging in there with a fresh profile on another machine where I haven't restarted gnome-terminal... also seems broken |
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| 04:47.58 | Stanlin | azar well the bios has no acpi custom option, its a Acer 6935, 2.5 Core duo, 4gb ddr3, |
| 04:48.01 | nabziF | grabbed a machine that I had not upgraded to latest testing ... it was working fine. and updated about 140 packages |
| 04:48.11 | nabziF | looks like xfonts-base broke this . |
| 04:48.31 | Azar | Stanlin: so maybe that why s2ram does not work as it should |
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| 04:49.17 | Stanlin | Azar: yeah, hibernation just works perfect on Windows... but i want to use debian |
| 04:49.51 | Azar | nabziF: isn't that horrible, after you install, groom, customize set up everything to work ok, you do an upgrade and all the stuff brokes like a bottle of wine? |
| 04:50.09 | Stanlin | and it is really annoying to open again 30 applications, every time you move to another location |
| 04:50.32 | Azar | Stanlin: I tried back in the days, just to see how it works, and I gave up, I can live without hibernation... |
| 04:50.32 | nabziF | Preparing to replace xfonts-base 1:1.0.0-5 (using .../xfonts-base_1%3a1.0.0-6_all.deb) ... |
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| 04:51.04 | Azar | Stanlin: in fact, the documentation stated that hibernation could be a headache... |
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| 04:51.48 | Stanlin | Azar: indeed, must be something else, apart of hibernatition, i just want to save the state of the desktop... same apps opened |
| 04:51.52 | nabziF | Azar: gnome-terminal is really beginning to piss me off. I have to restart it every few months due to some memory leak (it was using about 700 Megs this time after about 2 months). and each time I restart the stupid package changes behavior ... like that crap about blinking cursors. |
| 04:52.33 | nabziF | now this crap about not doing non-bold fonts (athough it looks like this situation is caused by another package). |
| 04:53.12 | Azar | Stanlin: maybe is a security thing that closes your apps in hibernation mode... in the very application |
| 04:53.24 | nabziF | ... off to snapshot to get the previous xfonts to confirm that restores correct behavior. |
| 04:53.45 | Stanlin | Azar: its a clean installation |
| 04:54.14 | Azar | nabziF: which leads one to guess that every upgrade might come with more stuff on one side, and erases some features on another.. |
| 04:55.06 | Azar | Stanlin: yes, but maybe s2ram has some unknown properties, did you read the documentation? is there any README coming with it? |
| 04:56.10 | Azar | is a lazy ass so never bothered with gnome or other kind of desktop manager |
| 04:56.51 | Azar | ...whatever happened with abrotman... |
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| 05:01.10 | Xenguy | Azar: what's up with abrotman ? |
| 05:01.45 | Azar | Xenguy: hi, well.. I would like to know, I haven't seen him as often as he used to be.. |
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| 05:02.08 | Brain-Dance | Evening all |
| 05:02.09 | Azar | is back after one year absence here |
| 05:02.15 | Stanlin | to move from lenny to testing, i just need to replace, lenny for resting in source.conf , right? |
| 05:02.40 | Xenguy | Azar: I've seen him around in the last couple of weeks I think, but I come and go myself now |
| 05:02.47 | Azar | Stanlin: and read the reference notes to prepare for the upgrade |
| 05:03.03 | Xenguy | Stanlin: lenny = stable now |
| 05:03.23 | Xenguy | Stanlin: testing = squeeze ? |
| 05:03.29 | Azar | Xenguy: I just hope he is ok, I was myself a bit in the bad side lately |
| 05:03.36 | Manoj | Stanlin: better to call it squeeze than testing, though |
| 05:03.50 | Xenguy | Azar: me too, are you OK though? |
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| 05:03.52 | Stanlin | ok squeeze, |
| 05:04.02 | Stanlin | so i need to replace lenny for sqeeze, thats enough? |
| 05:04.12 | Manoj | Stanlin: and it is often a good idea to upgrade aptitude and dpkg _first_, then do a safe-upgrade, and finally a dist-upgrade |
| 05:04.13 | Xenguy | Stanlin: double-check that, I'm running lenny |
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| 05:04.16 | Azar | Xenguy: I do not think so... sever HBP leading to complications |
| 05:04.49 | Manoj | Stanlin: but if you are feeling lucky, a plain old update/upgrade could work |
| 05:04.58 | Xenguy | Azar: bummer, and sorry to hear that -- how to lower BP |
| 05:05.08 | Brain-Dance | Hey, does anyone have a second to help me with a debian/ubuntu identity crisis? |
| 05:05.28 | Azar | Xenguy: no salt, no wine, no beer and costly medications |
| 05:05.47 | Xenguy | Azar: the salt I can understand ;-) |
| 05:06.05 | Azar | Xenguy: yep, the drinks got the best of off me |
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| 05:07.16 | DaveWM | anybody know if there's a way to adjust how long it takes the gnome panel to appear when its on auto hide ? |
| 05:07.21 | Xenguy | Azar: do you think that caused the problem though, or is it just a diet change? |
| 05:07.33 | NetBSD-5-0 | "Linux has never been about quality. There are so many parts of the system that are just these cheap little hacks, and it happens to run." -- Theo De Raadt |
| 05:08.01 | Stanlin | how to patch the kernel ? |
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| 05:08.10 | Xenguy | Sure theo, wink wink |
| 05:08.10 | DaveWM | heh |
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| 05:08.38 | Stanlin | what is that reposotory with illegal stuff, adove, java, etc? |
| 05:08.51 | DaveWM | heh |
| 05:08.53 | dabreegster | marillat? |
| 05:09.02 | dabreegster | thats mostly multimedia, actually |
| 05:09.07 | Xenguy | !multimedia |
| 05:09.07 | dpkg | somebody said dmm was Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
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| 05:13.05 | zhxk | are debain rolling upgrade ? |
| 05:13.27 | Azar | zhxk: security upgrades |
| 05:14.17 | Azar | actually |
| 05:14.26 | Azar | read that security updates |
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| 05:14.47 | Stanlin | ok moving to squeeze |
| 05:14.57 | Brain-Dance | Azar: <noob>Does that mean that in Lenny, say, the version of openoffice (or whatever) will stay the same except for minor updates until Squeeze goes stable? |
| 05:15.01 | Brain-Dance | </noob> |
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| 05:15.07 | dabreegster | I have some problematic LCD monitors that xorg can't get the timings for (edidfail and ddcprobe errors in the log), resulting in either horrible resolutions in xorg or just the fun "cant display this range" error on monitors. Just tried a knoppix 6.0.1 CD today, it saw it, but I couldn't find where to snag the modeline from. gvidm said 0KHz by everything, and the xorg.conf was generic. What can I do to get the monitors detected? |
| 05:15.25 | zhxk | Azar:can debain soomthly upgrades to the next or higher version? |
| 05:16.05 | Azar | Brain-Dance: pretty much, because applications are not part of core Debian system. Every new Debian version will have an upgraded application when it comes out |
| 05:16.41 | Brain-Dance | Right, so Squeeze will likely have OpenOffice 3.0.1 whereas Lenny still has 2.4, etc... |
| 05:17.06 | zhxk | Azar:rc=release candidate? |
| 05:17.47 | Azar | zhxk: if one is not a seasoned user/tester is better stay with the official stable version. Because when a new user jumps to testing or unstable versions, it has to know how to fight dependencies on packages conflicts |
| 05:18.19 | Stanlin | ouch |
| 05:20.26 | Stanlin | where is the ISO for Squeeze? |
| 05:20.36 | Stanlin | i can only find lenny everywhere |
| 05:21.07 | Azar | would not know, have been staying with a very old version of Debian, that works for me. |
| 05:21.25 | dabreegster | Stanlin: testing images are rebuilt weekly |
| 05:21.45 | Stanlin | dabreegster: do you know where is the place to look for them? |
| 05:21.51 | dabreegster | Stanlin: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
| 05:22.23 | dabreegster | Stanlin: if have a DVD burner, go for the dvd -- it's got way more on it, obviously |
| 05:23.51 | Stanlin | 10 dvd ? :P |
| 05:23.57 | Stanlin | dvds* |
| 05:24.03 | Stanlin | is there any net install? |
| 05:24.12 | Azar | it is huge man, :) |
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| 05:26.05 | Stanlin | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 05:26.12 | Stanlin | phew |
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| 05:27.02 | zxd | hi |
| 05:27.06 | Stanlin | !burn CD |
| 05:27.06 | zxd | does upslash timeout? |
| 05:27.15 | Stanlin | any gnome app to burn |
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| 05:27.18 | Stanlin | Iisos? |
| 05:28.03 | adb | amd64 ? |
| 05:28.11 | Stanlin | amd64 |
| 05:28.30 | adb | lenny? |
| 05:28.38 | Stanlin | yeh |
| 05:28.47 | Chubbz | Can someone help me enable apm? i keep trying to load the module and it says module not founr |
| 05:28.50 | Chubbz | *d |
| 05:29.05 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-501-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 05:30.20 | Stanlin | i mean ,what application should i use to burn an iso |
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| 05:31.26 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:33.25 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:34.31 | Stanlin | adb thanks bro.. |
| 05:34.34 | arkey | hello, how to download music in my windows? |
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| 05:35.11 | Azar | greetings, mister cahoot |
| 05:35.13 | Stanlin | arkey: aint that illegal? |
| 05:35.45 | Chubbz | Can someone help me enable apm? i keep trying to load the module and it says module not found |
| 05:36.13 | cahoot | Azar: goodmorning |
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| 05:37.41 | funkygibbon | after kernel recompile fails (damn you zlib1g), should I make clean, or just make-kpkg again? |
| 05:38.02 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.17 | funkygibbon | aww |
| 05:38.20 | funkygibbon | k |
| 05:38.29 | Stanlin | reboot |
| 05:38.45 | funkygibbon | and sacrifice the chicken? |
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| 05:39.47 | adb | funkygibbon: why compile ? |
| 05:40.03 | funkygibbon | latency |
| 05:40.14 | adb | heh |
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| 05:41.59 | adb | !tell funkygibbon about rt |
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| 05:43.57 | arkey | ? |
| 05:45.01 | adb | apt-cache show streamripper |
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| 05:45.52 | wng- | upgrade broke vlc? |
| 05:46.30 | Xenguy | wng-: my vlc has stopped working... |
| 05:46.37 | Xenguy | having to use totem now |
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| 05:47.20 | wng- | yea, im trying to figure out if it was the ffmpeg upgrade or vlc |
| 05:47.29 | funkygibbon | adb: yep, installed the rt patch |
| 05:47.40 | adb | Xenguy: install --reinstall vlc |
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| 05:47.57 | Xenguy | adb: you think that will fix things? |
| 05:48.10 | Xenguy | adb: apt-get install --reinstall vlc |
| 05:48.11 | Xenguy | ? |
| 05:48.11 | adb | try and see |
| 05:48.17 | adb | yes |
| 05:48.26 | jcoffi | Does anyone have experience working with hardware based watchdog timers? I'm stuck and could use some direction. I've read over manpages and logs and just about everything else I can think of. |
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| 05:48.56 | wng- | adb: didn't fix the problem for me, i think its a ffmpeg thing |
| 05:49.08 | adb | lenny ? |
| 05:49.15 | wng- | yes |
| 05:49.45 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:51.03 | adb | wng- try remove --purge vlc, and reinstall |
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| 05:51.50 | Xenguy | adb: --reinstall didn't change anything for me -- still audio only |
| 05:51.51 | wng- | that won't help anything, its a problem with the ffmpeg plugin |
| 05:52.09 | H2S04_ | 2/bu4 |
| 05:52.12 | adb | seen bts ? |
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| 05:56.09 | adb | Xenguy: tried remove --purge , before reinstall ? |
| 05:56.42 | wng- | Xenguy: do you use debian-multimedia repo? |
| 05:56.44 | Xenguy | adb: no, I was reluctant to purge |
| 05:56.51 | Xenguy | wng-: yes |
| 05:56.58 | wng- | thats the problem |
| 05:57.02 | wng- | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483000 |
| 05:57.06 | adb | apt-cache policy ffmpeg |grep http |
| 05:57.07 | wng- | solution in last post |
| 05:57.18 | jcoffi | Does anyone have experience working with hardware based watchdog timers? The hardware itself works fine. I just need to get it to tell the hardware that everything is ok and that there's no need to trigger a reboot. |
| 05:57.25 | Xenguy | thanks all! |
| 05:57.32 | adb | wng-: i use 500 http://ftp.ch.debian.org lenny/main Packages |
| 05:57.42 | adb | for ffmpeg |
| 05:58.35 | lotharn | why does it seem that the deb-src never contains source? |
| 05:58.39 | lotharn | like deluge? |
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| 05:58.57 | nabziF | it was not xfonts-base ... that was just the last packaged to configure before things broke. |
| 05:59.29 | nabziF | during it's configure it regenerated a directory index which had my prefered font. the bug is in another package that was using the font index. |
| 05:59.32 | nabziF | this package works: libpango1.0-0=1.22.4-2 |
| 05:59.33 | adb | lotharn: deluge is in debian ? |
| 05:59.35 | nabziF | this package fails: libpango1.0-0=1.24.0-3+b1 |
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| 06:00.22 | nabziF | now ... I not what to backout on my other machines. |
| 06:00.58 | Xenguy | heh |
| 06:01.20 | adb | judd: versions libpango1.0-0 |
| 06:01.20 | judd | adb: libpango1.0-0 -- etch: 1.14.8-5 lenny: 1.20.5-3 sid: 1.24.0-3+b1 squeeze: 1.24.0-3+b1 |
| 06:01.31 | lotharn | adb: yeah in sid |
| 06:01.42 | lotharn | but the srcs arent |
| 06:02.07 | adb | lotharn: deluge is debian package ? |
| 06:02.10 | nabziF | doesn't look like there's an open bug that's related. |
| 06:02.18 | lotharn | deluge is an app |
| 06:03.33 | adb | deluge-torrent ? |
| 06:03.42 | lotharn | anyway im trying to use the deb-srcs from sid over ubuntu jaunty |
| 06:03.48 | lotharn | yeah |
| 06:03.59 | lotharn | and the sources are not there |
| 06:04.17 | streuner__ | lotharn: so you running ubuntu, right? |
| 06:04.28 | lotharn | can i build a source pkg from source tarballs |
| 06:04.29 | lotharn | ? |
| 06:04.30 | lotharn | yeah |
| 06:04.32 | adb | don't mix debian + ubuntoo |
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| 06:04.40 | streuner__ | lotharn: #ubuntu |
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| 06:04.48 | adb | heh |
| 06:04.52 | lotharn | its source anyway |
| 06:05.05 | lotharn | should work |
| 06:05.48 | lotharn | but thats not what Im looking for i guess, I'm looking for how to find deb-srcs or make them when the repo doesnt include them |
| 06:06.25 | lotharn | same question would apply in sid |
| 06:06.56 | adb | !tell lotharn about deb-src |
| 06:07.01 | lotharn | thanks |
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| 06:07.36 | Stanlin | how to debug an application |
| 06:07.37 | lotharn | hmm |
| 06:07.38 | Stanlin | ? |
| 06:07.52 | adb | read his man |
| 06:08.14 | lotharn | nah, the sid src repo doesnt include a specific source package just says binary only upload |
| 06:08.54 | lotharn | how do i make a deb from tar? |
| 06:09.07 | lotharn | so i can deploy it,,, |
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| 06:10.01 | adb | what really want to do ? |
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| 06:10.36 | lotharn | autmate the compilation of the sources and install on like 7 deb systems |
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| 06:11.04 | wng- | is there any way to see all packages installed from a certain repo? |
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| 06:12.45 | lotharn | but sid doesn't include these sources, so either i need to compile by hand for 3 different arches, |
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| 06:15.13 | lotharn | or build a script that makes a deb src pkg, and have apt deal with it |
| 06:15.27 | lotharn | which sounds nice |
| 06:15.54 | adb | so write one |
| 06:16.05 | lotharn | i think i just answered my own question. |
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| 06:16.09 | lotharn | thanks |
| 06:16.56 | amitz | is it possible to have "installing the base system" retrieve data from apt-cacher instead of ftp.debian.org? |
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| 06:17.21 | amitz | of debian lenny netinst.iso. |
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| 06:21.51 | lotharn | ok now im having trouble finding info on making deb-src packages |
| 06:22.10 | lotharn | crap |
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| 06:26.36 | asd | join ubuntu |
| 06:27.02 | lotharn | already there |
| 06:27.11 | lotharn | 5 of those boxes are sid |
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| 06:28.18 | MichelFX | hello |
| 06:28.22 | amitz | hmmm how to force debian installer to install from lenny repository instead of stable repository? |
| 06:28.28 | MichelFX | I use debian lenny |
| 06:28.33 | MichelFX | and I got this |
| 06:28.33 | gigo | I am using squeeze. After a full-upgrade, I see a new kernel in the grub menu while booting. Now, how do I uninstall the old kernel? |
| 06:28.36 | MichelFX | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.44 | MichelFX | its right? |
| 06:29.40 | amitz | MichelFX: don't understand what you mean |
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| 06:30.20 | amitz | gigo: have you tested the new kernel? If you have, find the old kernel number from aptitude and remove it manually. That's how I do it. |
| 06:30.40 | gigo | amitz, yes, I am working with the new kernel now. but I wonder how to do it using aptitude. |
| 06:30.47 | MichelFX | I use lenny and that updates are for Etch |
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| 06:31.30 | adb | MichelFX: it seems its for etch |
| 06:31.47 | adb | burned wrong image |
| 06:32.39 | cahoot | gigo: like aptitude purge linux-image-<version number> |
| 06:32.43 | Sashi | hmm |
| 06:32.49 | gigo | cahoot, yes did that. worked. |
| 06:32.51 | keith4_ | xmms2d seems to run aware with a CPU core periodically, and the music stops. nothing in the log. how would I find out wtf it's doing? |
| 06:32.53 | Sashi | is it possible to limit the speed of FTP on ones account? |
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| 06:33.07 | MichelFX | look |
| 06:33.09 | MichelFX | http://pastebin.com/m2f35eaf8 |
| 06:33.17 | gigo | it is quite intelligent. it removed the extra lines from /boot/grub/menu.lst too |
| 06:33.37 | cahoot | that's AI for you |
| 06:33.45 | gigo | lol :-) |
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| 06:35.02 | adb | MichelFX: fix your sources.list , comment the etch line, apt-get update |
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| 06:35.19 | Azar | keith4_: one of the things that surprised me like one year ago is that I read that xmms will not be supported in lenny... is still the case? I am asking the pros here |
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| 06:36.08 | adb | judd: versions mplayer |
| 06:36.09 | judd | adb: mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5 etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7 lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3 sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1 lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1 sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20090412-0.0 |
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| 06:36.36 | amitz | given the initrd.gz and vmlinuz of debian installer, what's to write in grub to make the installer enter expert mode? |
| 06:36.53 | keith4_ | Azar, don't confuse 'xmms' with 'xmms2'. they're totally different |
| 06:36.59 | amitz | I know what to write to run the installer, but what else to write to enter expert mode? |
| 06:37.13 | Azar | keith4_: I see.. thanks for the heads up |
| 06:37.17 | cahoot | linux expert? |
| 06:38.06 | keith4_ | something is definitely wrong, here. xmms2d shouldn't take 25% to 30% of a core on P4 2.8 HT to play an MP3 |
| 06:38.18 | adb | amitz: hit F1 |
| 06:38.22 | amitz | cahoot: hmm... let me see if I can put it in kernel line of grub or initrd line of grub |
| 06:39.01 | amitz | adb: I can't. The installer is not iso based. It's initrd.gz and vmlinuz based. |
| 06:39.15 | adb | ah |
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| 06:40.18 | adb | install in same machine ? |
| 06:40.31 | nabziF | filed a bug ... don't know the number yet but the subject will be ... libpango1.0-0: pango forces use of bold font in gnome-terminal |
| 06:41.08 | amitz | adb: yeah. at the end I can use debootstrap but this method seems easier :-) |
| 06:41.39 | adb | debootstrap its easier, for me |
| 06:42.01 | amitz | adb: if I can make the "installing base system" to refer to "lenny" instead of "stable", which is why I need expert mode. |
| 06:42.38 | adb | chroot in target and install all is needed |
| 06:42.41 | amitz | adb: need lenny instead of debian since my apt-cacher-ng has lenny record but no stable record. |
| 06:42.44 | cahoot | amitz: I misunterstodd and probably mislead you |
| 06:43.23 | amitz | cahoot: well, I think you understand what I want but misunderstood my situation. But it's ok :-) |
| 06:43.25 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:44.33 | amitz | adb: problem is, my debian installer use "stable" instead of "lenny", while my apt-cacher only has "lenny" cache. |
| 06:44.46 | amitz | and bandwidth is expensive in my place :-) |
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| 06:45.35 | adb | chage "stable" to lenny in target sources.list |
| 06:45.40 | swolchok | is squeeze relatively pleasant to use yet? |
| 06:45.54 | adb | no, lenny yes |
| 06:46.04 | swolchok | i've been on lenny for ages |
| 06:46.12 | swolchok | I can't remember how long i waited after etch to move to lenny |
| 06:47.28 | adb | and now > want to "can't remember how long i waited after etch to move to squeeze " ? |
| 06:47.45 | adb | s/etch/ lenny |
| 06:48.10 | swolchok | yeah, I've traditionally run testing |
| 06:48.33 | swolchok | I guess the alternative is tar everything up and switch to ubuntu; I've been told a few times that testing is less for normal people than unstable |
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| 06:50.44 | adb | make sure you know what you want to do ... |
| 06:51.59 | amitz | adb: thanks, |
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| 06:52.16 | adb | yw |
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| 06:58.50 | gigo | is there any dictionary in Debian, a flat file list of all words? |
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| 07:07.18 | maha | how do i update this debian server |
| 07:07.22 | maha | aptitude update |
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| 07:08.11 | Gratz474 | what is x default mouse settings? |
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| 07:08.21 | Gratz474 | I mean am I getting the real dpi with the default? |
| 07:08.37 | bolt | !tell maha about update |
| 07:08.41 | g00se | maha: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade |
| 07:09.39 | maha | Gratz474: dpi is just font size |
| 07:09.45 | maha | it doesnt adjust quality |
| 07:09.53 | Gratz474 | dpi of the mouse? |
| 07:09.55 | maha | g00se: okay |
| 07:09.58 | maha | what? |
| 07:10.38 | Gratz474 | a mouse has dpi setitng |
| 07:12.38 | Gratz474 | whenever i go from linux to windows my mouse speed changes and I am curious what si the *real* setitng |
| 07:12.47 | g00se | Is it possible to get iceweael working with openjdk-6-jre |
| 07:12.58 | g00se | Is it possible to get iceweasel working with openjdk-6-jre? |
| 07:13.32 | cahoot | Gratz474: man xset - look for mouse |
| 07:14.28 | Gratz474 | I mean I am jsut curious what a real 1200 dpi feels like cahoot |
| 07:14.39 | Gratz474 | i never messed with mouse setting so maybe I am getting that? |
| 07:16.08 | cahoot | Gratz474: http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/PointerAcceleration |
| 07:16.37 | Gratz474 | is acceleration even supposed to be used? |
| 07:18.34 | cahoot | http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/mouse.4.html |
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| 07:21.50 | at0m|c | Gratz474: which mouse? for logitech's, you might want to look into lomoco to configure the settings |
| 07:22.02 | Gratz474 | MS |
| 07:23.04 | Gratz474 | at0m, maybe there is no true default |
| 07:23.27 | Gratz474 | but yea the mouse is different from linuxto windows but i dunno |
| 07:23.34 | at0m|c | Gratz474: also, pointer speed and acceleration are both Desktop settings. DPI isn't, IIUC |
| 07:23.53 | Gratz474 | yea |
| 07:24.07 | Gratz474 | i mean i just wonder what the truuue dpi feels like if you get what I mean |
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| 07:24.17 | at0m|c | so could be DPI or pointer speed still |
| 07:24.18 | at0m|c | right |
| 07:24.33 | Gratz474 | yea |
| 07:24.41 | Gratz474 | i mean 1200 dpi is pretty quick right? |
| 07:24.43 | Gratz474 | hehe |
| 07:24.56 | Gratz474 | i used to have a 400 dpi mouse |
| 07:25.11 | Gratz474 | it was much slower for sure |
| 07:25.12 | at0m|c | 400 is the lowest/standard i think |
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| 07:25.37 | at0m|c | it's not just speed - it's precision |
| 07:25.38 | Gratz474 | this one is 1200 |
| 07:25.42 | Gratz474 | yea |
| 07:26.48 | Gratz474 | in my desktop manager everything is on very low |
| 07:26.58 | Gratz474 | so maybe I am truley getting the right dpi |
| 07:27.56 | unomi | in a small shell script how do I pass all commandline argument? |
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| 07:34.08 | at0m|c | unomi: http://www.linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial#Passing_arguments_to_the_bash_script |
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| 07:34.20 | unomi | thanks |
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| 07:34.48 | at0m|c | unomi: just a quick google ;) |
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| 07:35.43 | shyam | {OT}know whether freelists.org people have an irc channel? |
| 07:36.01 | shyam | have doubts on managing lists.. |
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| 07:49.32 | DonAlex | Hi Guys... |
| 07:50.01 | DonAlex | Now I KNOW someone must have come across this and so someone please cure my frustration. |
| 07:50.39 | DonAlex | In the latest incarnation of the synaptics touchpad driver for Xorg.. the developer said he disabled tapping by default.. |
| 07:51.02 | DonAlex | He then goes on to say how to turn it back on.. but try as I might it does not seem to work. |
| 07:51.20 | DonAlex | Here is the output from synclient. .Can someone with expertise have a look and see if I am missing something? |
| 07:51.32 | DonAlex | http://pastebin.com/m20c3254d |
| 07:52.53 | DonAlex | I have used gpointing-device and the inbuilt Gnome Touchpad config tools |
| 07:53.02 | DonAlex | neither seem to work. |
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| 07:54.12 | DonAlex | I >really< want my touch tap back :( I have such a light touch normally it is frustrating to click buttons all the time |
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| 07:54.47 | unseensoul | hi |
| 07:55.05 | nsadmin | HEY, I see you! |
| 07:55.33 | unseensoul | Lol |
| 07:55.44 | unseensoul | actually you just see my nickname |
| 07:55.45 | unseensoul | :P |
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| 07:56.01 | nsadmin | unseensoul: Oh, ok :) |
| 07:56.50 | nsadmin | DonAlex: you into building stuff? |
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| 07:57.05 | DonAlex | nsadmin: In what sense? |
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| 07:57.10 | DonAlex | nsadmin: Compiling? |
| 07:57.24 | nsadmin | like, getting source, typing make, looking at diffs, like that |
| 07:57.57 | nsadmin | I was just going to suggest you could look at the diff between the version you have now and the one you had |
| 07:57.59 | DonAlex | nsadmin: Sure.. I can do that.. only thing is the developer said he intentionally disabled it.. but i did not think he had removed it |
| 07:58.16 | DonAlex | nsadmin: Yeah could do.. but there is gonna be a lot of changes.. |
| 07:58.26 | nsadmin | maybe the best thing is to talk to him |
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| 07:58.37 | DonAlex | nsadmin: the driver no longer needs Shm and uses some sort of Dbus replacement |
| 07:58.50 | unseensoul | when trying to access System -> Administration -> Services no window pops up asking for the root password as it should, how can I fix this? |
| 07:59.07 | DonAlex | nsadmin: that is why gsynaptics is dead.. the dvelper for that has moved to a new project. |
| 07:59.08 | nsadmin | he said he disabled it "by default"? |
| 07:59.19 | DonAlex | hang on lemme get the blog |
| 07:59.23 | valdyn | unseensoul: is that app being run though? |
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| 08:00.17 | DonAlex | nsadmin: http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/04/synaptics-11-and-what-your-touchpad-can.html |
| 08:00.34 | unseensoul | valdyn: yes but I'm unable to access it as it seems it is locked or something |
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| 08:00.39 | DonAlex | nsadmin: I mean it is cool upgrade.. supporting multifinger touches now.. |
| 08:00.52 | DonAlex | nsadmin: So I am quite happy to have it all ;) |
| 08:01.04 | valdyn | unseensoul: so it doesnt start, how does it fail? silently? |
| 08:01.45 | deconvolution | what's the debian way to rebuild package with different options? I have downloaded the source file with apt-get source command... |
| 08:01.52 | DonAlex | nsadmin: I just assumed when he says disabled by default it means you can enable it through synclient |
| 08:02.10 | DonAlex | nsadmin: perhaps not though.. |
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| 08:02.39 | valdyn | unseensoul: on which debian release? |
| 08:03.14 | unseensoul | valdyn: I'm always using testing |
| 08:03.52 | valdyn | unseensoul: start "services-admin" in a shell and tell us which output you get |
| 08:04.32 | unseensoul | valdyn: I still can load the service but can't make any changes. |
| 08:04.46 | unseensoul | no output at all |
| 08:05.18 | valdyn | unseensoul: the auth mechanism changed recently |
| 08:05.29 | WormFood | I copied a mysql setup from one computer to another (all databases)...how do I fix the "error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'" warning/error when I startup mysql? |
| 08:05.34 | valdyn | unseensoul: can you run "polkit-gnome-authorisation" ? |
| 08:06.24 | unseensoul | valdyn: I'm afraid I don't have it installed on my system. shall I install it then? |
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| 08:06.48 | valdyn | judd: versions gnome-system-tools |
| 08:06.48 | judd | valdyn: gnome-system-tools -- etch: 2.14.0-3 lenny: 2.22.0-3 squeeze: 2.22.1-2 sid: 2.22.1-4 |
| 08:08.00 | valdyn | unseensoul: its polkit-gnome-authorization with z , try again please |
| 08:08.22 | valdyn | unseensoul: if you dont have that program, install policykit-gnome |
| 08:08.39 | valdyn | judd: versions policykit-gnome |
| 08:08.39 | judd | valdyn: policykit-gnome -- lenny: 0.9-1 squeeze: 0.9.2-1 sid: 0.9.2-2 |
| 08:09.00 | unseensoul | valdyn: Ok, give me a second... |
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| 08:10.51 | unseensoul | valdyn: done, now what? is this a new package? i haven't had knowledge about it before |
| 08:11.16 | valdyn | unseensoul: did installing it pull anything else? |
| 08:12.04 | unseensoul | libpolkit-gnome0 only |
| 08:12.10 | valdyn | unseensoul: good |
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| 08:12.29 | valdyn | unseensoul: now restart dbus |
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| 08:12.40 | valdyn | unseensoul: /etc/init.d/dbus restart |
| 08:12.49 | valdyn | unseensoul: then try running services-admin in a terminal |
| 08:13.13 | valdyn | unseensoul: its *must* be a local terminal btw |
| 08:13.32 | Supaplex | WormFood: there's a conf file in mysql:/etc/mysql# cat debian.cnf |
| 08:13.39 | unseensoul | valdyn: ** (services-admin:22907): CRITICAL **: Unable to find session for cookie |
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| 08:14.48 | WormFood | yeah Supaplex, I just discovered that |
| 08:14.50 | WormFood | thanks |
| 08:14.54 | valdyn | unseensoul: ok, thats what i get too after doing these things, something needs to be restarted |
| 08:15.01 | Supaplex | np |
| 08:15.11 | valdyn | unseensoul: i think you might not have been using a local terminal to start services-admin or somesuch |
| 08:15.30 | valdyn | unseensoul: services-admin gets its permissions via polkit |
| 08:15.39 | unseensoul | I've been using gnome-terminal |
| 08:15.50 | valdyn | unseensoul: dbus is what it accesses via those permissions |
| 08:16.11 | valdyn | unseensoul: polkit-gnome-authorization is a way to configure these permissions |
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| 08:16.54 | valdyn | unseensoul: you probably have to log out and back in anyway since dbus was restarted, ill try that myself quickly |
| 08:17.45 | unseensoul | me too |
| 08:17.53 | funkygibbon | why can nslookup or dig find a server, but ping can't? |
| 08:18.05 | funkygibbon | nslookup gets correct hit... ping fails with unknown host |
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| 08:21.15 | unseensoul | valdyn: it's working now. thank you very much :D |
| 08:21.46 | unseensoul | by the way, shouldn't this package come with a gnome-related package? |
| 08:22.40 | king_crimson | [03:18] <funkygibbon> nslookup gets correct hit... ping fails with unknown host <------ are you pinging as root or a user? |
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| 08:22.59 | funkygibbon | user |
| 08:23.11 | king_crimson | try it logged in as root or sudo and see what happens |
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| 08:24.03 | funkygibbon | same |
| 08:24.14 | king_crimson | interesting |
| 08:24.23 | king_crimson | all other software can resolve domains? |
| 08:24.23 | valdyn | unseensoul: nice |
| 08:24.31 | valdyn | unseensoul: i broke my things in the process |
| 08:24.37 | valdyn | unseensoul: or noticed that they were borken |
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| 08:24.51 | savageCW | funkygibbon: u tried another internet address? eg. 4.2.2.2 |
| 08:24.53 | funkygibbon | no, the reason I'm messing about with it is because smbclient won't find hosts, but ff (iceweasel) can |
| 08:25.09 | unseensoul | valdyn: weird |
| 08:25.12 | funkygibbon | IP is all fine |
| 08:25.12 | funkygibbon | just resolution |
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| 08:25.44 | king_crimson | hmm, if ff can resolve i assume your dns host is set right |
| 08:25.54 | funkygibbon | yeah exactly |
| 08:25.56 | valdyn | unseensoul: so seems like some dependency is broken |
| 08:26.07 | funkygibbon | so, why does ping fail, when dns is obviously working fine |
| 08:26.12 | valdyn | unseensoul: or you did not relog after some upgrade |
| 08:26.16 | funkygibbon | ping or smbclient |
| 08:26.17 | valdyn | unseensoul: or you did not relog since some upgrade |
| 08:26.36 | funkygibbon | is there a tool that shows the dns resolution 'stack' ? |
| 08:26.49 | funkygibbon | apart from /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 08:26.50 | king_crimson | funkygibbon: are you using dhcp or static? |
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| 08:26.52 | valdyn | funkygibbon: cat /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 08:27.00 | funkygibbon | :P |
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| 08:27.13 | king_crimson | not that i know of as far as another tool goes |
| 08:27.39 | unseensoul | valdyn: I actually did |
| 08:27.50 | valdyn | funkygibbon: where most things in hosts: files mdns6_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns6 have a lib* |
| 08:28.04 | shingouz | i have an ide cdrom here but it seems to error out if i use it as /dev/hdb. how can i force the system to use scsi emulation on it? the drive works on a different (*buntu) system that apparently runs the drives with scsi emulation |
| 08:28.08 | king_crimson | if you're using dhcp, just for testing try changing it to static using the same info the dhcp server gave you and putting those values into /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:28.13 | valdyn | funkygibbon: files not, but theres libmdns6_minimal.so and libmdns6.so |
| 08:28.20 | king_crimson | then ifdown/ifup the interface and see what happens |
| 08:28.20 | g00se_ | smbclient -R host |
| 08:28.46 | king_crimson | i've had strange things happen to me like that before using dhcp |
| 08:28.53 | king_crimson | unfortunately not sure why, or if this will help at all |
| 08:28.56 | king_crimson | but worth a try |
| 08:29.16 | valdyn | shingouz: no, you got that wrong |
| 08:29.21 | valdyn | shingouz: scsi emulation is dead |
| 08:29.51 | valdyn | shingouz: theres libata drivers and the old block layer drivers, that results in the naming pattern you describe |
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| 08:30.30 | valdyn | shingouz: s in sda doesnt really mean scsi anymore |
| 08:30.30 | shingouz | valdyn: you are referring to the scsi-like naming i presume? |
| 08:30.37 | valdyn | shingouz: yes |
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| 08:31.07 | corsair__ | hey, what make target do i need to use to compile kernel headers with make-kpkg? |
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| 08:31.41 | valdyn | corsair__: linux-headers i would guess |
| 08:31.44 | funkygibbon | king_crimson: static is no different |
| 08:31.47 | shingouz | i see... but in that case why is the vanilla debian kernel insisting on a ide-like naming and refusing me the use of the drive while buntu uses sd and lets the drive work perfectly |
| 08:32.07 | valdyn | shingouz: because the sd* drivers are marked experimental still |
| 08:32.20 | funkygibbon | valdyn: any tips on what I should restart in order to have changes to nsswitch register? |
| 08:32.25 | king_crimson | funkygibbon: i'm at a loss here sorry, one of the more smartar guys will have to try to help you out |
| 08:32.28 | valdyn | shingouz: are you sure its erroring out and not just giving funny message that dont mean shit? |
| 08:32.38 | funkygibbon | nps, ty for trying |
| 08:33.15 | valdyn | funkygibbon: at most the application that needs dns lookup |
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| 08:33.19 | shingouz | valdyn: ide-bus times out iirc. fills up logs like hell and eventually locks up the computer. seek error is what it claims on the debian kernel |
| 08:33.19 | valdyn | funkygibbon: if anything |
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| 08:33.31 | valdyn | shingouz: ok |
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| 08:33.37 | Sertse | hi, |
| 08:33.43 | valdyn | shingouz: the only way to use those new drivers is a custom kernel |
| 08:33.50 | unseensoul | I have to go, thanks valdyn ;) |
| 08:33.50 | king_crimson | actually, funkygibbon, check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf and see if it's correct |
| 08:34.09 | valdyn | shingouz: i have you issue btw |
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| 08:34.43 | valdyn | shingouz: on a dvd driver on an IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc |
| 08:34.56 | shingouz | valdyn: okok. custom kernel again, looks like. not that it is too bad, with the custom kernel i can get a few other things working at the same time, i have just been too lazy to hack together a new one so i have been using a debian kernel for a few months |
| 08:35.12 | corsair__ | valdyn: you guess, or you're sure? |
| 08:35.14 | shingouz | valdyn: this is a TP 600X |
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| 08:35.34 | valdyn | corsair__: i guess, im not reading the docs for you |
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| 08:36.04 | valdyn | shingouz: thats the drive, not the controller it seems |
| 08:36.20 | shingouz | valdyn: nope, taht is the type of the ibm laptop :) |
| 08:36.21 | funkygibbon | king_crimson: gawddamit |
| 08:36.35 | funkygibbon | Network manager in X was overwriting my resolv.conf |
| 08:36.48 | funkygibbon | and for some reason was trying to append .localdomain to things |
| 08:36.49 | valdyn | funkygibbon: sure, it has to |
| 08:37.01 | valdyn | funkygibbon: thats link local addresses |
| 08:37.23 | funkygibbon | removed all reference to domains, so that it just hits the actual nameserver in my router and it's all good |
| 08:37.26 | valdyn | funkygibbon: should be avahi that does that, not network manager, but whatever does it, its link local addresses that are configured by avahi |
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| 08:37.39 | valdyn | funkygibbon: you can make the file immutable |
| 08:37.44 | funkygibbon | valdyn: I put that under the 'computers trying to be helpful and failing category' |
| 08:37.45 | shingouz | valdyn: this has some intel chipset or other iirc. been too long since i actually looked at the thinkpad for me to remember how it is built. a custom kernel is not a bad idea, i am just soooooooooo lazy |
| 08:37.47 | valdyn | funkygibbon: thats a hack, but maybe what you want |
| 08:38.17 | funkygibbon | I'll see if subsequent ifupdowns / reboots cause it to change |
| 08:38.22 | valdyn | funkygibbon: apple users are perfectly happy with things working automagically |
| 08:38.22 | funkygibbon | at least I know where to look now |
| 08:38.26 | funkygibbon | hah |
| 08:38.28 | shingouz | valdyn: thanks, man |
| 08:38.58 | valdyn | funkygibbon: link local stuff means that you wire up 2 computers and they are networked automagically |
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| 08:39.16 | valdyn | funkygibbon: sure its not what you want when you are using dhcp already |
| 08:39.24 | funkygibbon | not really using dhcp |
| 08:39.26 | king_crimson | [03:36] <funkygibbon> Network manager in X was overwriting my resolv.conf |
| 08:39.31 | king_crimson | thats... strange lol |
| 08:39.33 | king_crimson | hmm |
| 08:39.35 | valdyn | funkygibbon: s/dhcp/something else/ |
| 08:40.08 | funkygibbon | it's a vmware deb, through vista host, connecting to tomato on the linksys dns, and ubuntu main webserver |
| 08:40.09 | funkygibbon | :P |
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| 08:40.24 | king_crimson | valdyn: that's because apple users are pansies. real men prefer a pain in the ass computing experience. |
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| 08:41.15 | valdyn | funkygibbon: run "route" btw |
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| 08:41.25 | valdyn | funkygibbon: link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 net0 is automagic |
| 08:41.53 | funkygibbon | not seeing that |
| 08:42.02 | funkygibbon | no link-local |
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| 08:43.37 | valdyn | funkygibbon: maybe it really was resolvconf that changed /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 08:45.07 | shingouz | ....pity we cannot use WOPR to declare global thermonuclear war on spammers..... |
| 08:45.25 | funkygibbon | I'd rather play tic tac toe |
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| 08:46.23 | shingouz | ditto, we'd get rid of the spammers though. unless they are like cockroaches which of course is very probable |
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| 08:50.18 | anoHito | question: is debian sarge still be supported by debian official ? |
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| 08:51.34 | toe | can anyone tell me how to use most as standard pager for manpages? |
| 08:51.35 | gigo | hi. I am unable to find the wenglish package in Squeeze |
| 08:52.46 | unomi | is preferring packages from lenny-backports a bad idea? |
| 08:54.27 | hoxu | toe, man man "ENVIRONMENT" section mentions MANPAGER & PAGER |
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| 09:04.39 | Kazuha | I'm looking to generate a tone that steadily changes frequency over a certain amount of time. Starting in the low Hz range and reaching into the 22KHz range. |
| 09:04.56 | Kazuha | Suggestions? |
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| 09:09.46 | Syrogen | -bash: /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd: No such file or directory |
| 09:09.54 | Syrogen | im using debian lenny |
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| 09:11.24 | cahoot | Kazuha: continuous or stepwise? |
| 09:11.47 | jelly-home | anoHito: no |
| 09:12.07 | Kazuha | Stepping, mostly. (I think.) |
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| 09:12.50 | Syrogen | /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart < how to restart if openbsd-inetd is not found? |
| 09:12.52 | jelly-home | !+tell anoHito -about sarge |
| 09:12.53 | dpkg | told anoHito about sarge. |
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| 09:13.24 | jelly-home | Syrogen: is it installed at all? |
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| 09:13.51 | Kazuha | Basically the 17600 Hz range came up in my class recently, and I'm wondering how audible it is to me -- and others. |
| 09:13.52 | Syrogen | im following perfect server debian lenny |
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| 09:14.28 | Syrogen | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-lenny-ispconfig3 |
| 09:14.28 | Kazuha | (And separately generating 1-100 Hz steps would be very annoyingly time-consuming. |
| 09:14.54 | toe | can anyone tell me how to use most as standard pager for manpages? |
| 09:14.58 | toe | solution: http://paste.debian.net/35082/ |
| 09:15.26 | Trewas | Kazuha: audacity can generate non-changing tones at least, sox can make sweeps etc |
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| 09:15.47 | jelly-home | Syrogen: nevermind your tutorial; is the package named "openbsd-inetd" installed or not? |
| 09:16.02 | Syrogen | i dont think so |
| 09:16.09 | jelly-home | Syrogen: please check. |
| 09:16.13 | Syrogen | not found in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 09:17.24 | jelly-home | Syrogen: use "dpkg -l openbsd-inetd" to see its status. |
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| 09:17.46 | Syrogen | un openbsd-inetd <none> (no description available) |
| 09:18.10 | jelly-home | Syrogen: the "n" means it's not installed at all, so, if you need it, install it first. |
| 09:18.54 | Syrogen | does it matter if i don install, or what this openbsd-inetd does? |
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| 09:19.15 | jelly-home | we have no idea what you're trying to accomplish. |
| 09:19.35 | Syrogen | install ispconfig3 on debian lennyt |
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| 09:20.02 | valdyn | thats such a fucked up "howto" |
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| 09:20.12 | trupheenix | i am viewing some chm files in chm viewer. i'm getting missing characters which are replaced with funny symbols. what packages am i missing? how do i get the ms true type fonts? ubuntu has a package called mscorettfonts |
| 09:20.29 | valdyn | Syrogen: these howtows are meant to be understood, not followed word for word |
| 09:20.31 | jelly-home | I think this is the right time to invoke a self-righteous factoid. |
| 09:20.36 | jelly-home | !tutorials |
| 09:20.37 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
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| 09:21.22 | Syrogen | ok, then i should install openbsd-inetd ~_~ |
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| 09:21.33 | valdyn | Syrogen: now if you dont even know what openbsd-inetd does you probably dotn need it |
| 09:21.43 | Syrogen | oh. |
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| 09:23.44 | jelly-home | Syrogen: what exact step are you currently at? |
| 09:24.12 | valdyn | its using openbsd-inetd with pureftpd |
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| 09:24.24 | valdyn | question is if you *really* need an ftp server |
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| 09:25.10 | valdyn | like every server needed ftp |
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| 09:26.17 | funkygibbon | should avoid ftp if you can |
| 09:26.30 | funkygibbon | just use ssh |
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| 09:26.38 | Syrogen | at 13, install mydns |
| 09:26.41 | funkygibbon | valdyn: it must have been resolvconf |
| 09:26.46 | funkygibbon | it changed again |
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| 09:27.05 | funkygibbon | and regardless of what i told dnsmasq to use as its source resolve file... it kept changing |
| 09:27.18 | funkygibbon | annoying.... i went with chattr +i :P |
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| 09:28.55 | valdyn | funkygibbon: that works. though the proper way would be to either configure the component that is using resolvconf to set the proper name server or to remove resonlvconf |
| 09:29.24 | funkygibbon | dnsmasq... and I told it to get it's resolv info from the right file... didn't want to play ball |
| 09:29.31 | funkygibbon | I guess if it was production / live I'd care more |
| 09:29.53 | valdyn | funkygibbon: ifup does it |
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| 09:30.12 | valdyn | funkygibbon: not dnsmasq by itself or not dnsmasq directly |
| 09:30.29 | funkygibbon | I tried adding the dns-nameservers to interfaces but no luck |
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| 09:44.18 | Mood | if i do a "umount -f /dev/fd0", will it delete the /dev/fd0 object? or will it just unmount whatever data is there? |
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| 09:46.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | Mood, it'll unmount it |
| 09:47.17 | Mood | Kamping_Kaiser: unmount it, as in remove the actual /dev/fd0 object? or remove the contents within? |
| 09:47.56 | Mood | i'm familiar with mounting/unmounting samba drives, but never tried it on a /dev/fd0 before |
| 09:48.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | Mood, its just like unmounting a partition on a filesystem or a cdrom. |
| 09:48.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | Mood, 'mount' and 'unmount' will never remove devices |
| 09:48.59 | Mood | Kamping_Kaiser: ahh... ok, that makes me feel much better |
| 09:49.15 | Mood | just out of curiosity, is there a command to remove devices? |
| 09:50.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | Mood, MAKEDEV -d (RTFM for that one though) |
| 09:50.56 | Mood | heh heh, got it. thanks Kamping_Kaiser |
| 09:51.06 | Trewas | Mood: or rm, just like any file |
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| 09:51.34 | Trewas | but udev may have some ideas of its own nowadays about devices |
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| 09:53.36 | exeoeoe | http://3x3cut10n3r.mybrute.com/ <-- have fun & good luck |
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| 10:04.12 | zhxk | how to let zhxk be in wheel group? |
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| 10:04.47 | Guerin | zhxk: talk to your administrator. |
| 10:05.11 | zhxk | i have the root account |
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| 10:07.08 | savageCW | hey zhxk are u the same person thats in freebsd asking the same questions? |
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| 10:07.58 | nena | hello! how can i install only one package from experimental repos? |
| 10:08.16 | nena | apt-get -t experimental install [package] does'nt work |
| 10:08.59 | nena | have i to add some lines to sources.list? |
| 10:09.03 | at0m|c | nena: did you add the repo to sources.list then apt-get update? |
| 10:09.11 | nena | no, i didn't |
| 10:09.15 | nena | have i to do so' |
| 10:09.17 | nena | *so? |
| 10:09.43 | nena | will this change my version of debian? |
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| 10:10.31 | nena | at0m|c |
| 10:10.32 | at0m|c | or download the .deb manually: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages |
| 10:10.39 | at0m|c | no it wont |
| 10:11.06 | nena | at0m|c, how to change the version of debian then? |
| 10:11.24 | at0m|c | nena: i have no idea |
| 10:11.30 | zhxk | you answered neither |
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| 10:11.47 | savageCW | zhxk: lazy |
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| 10:12.05 | jelly-home | !tell zhxk -about wheel |
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| 10:12.32 | savageCW | zhxk: im sure that most of this stuff is out there on the web...try www.google.com |
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| 10:12.54 | nena | i added this line on sources.list: |
| 10:12.56 | nena | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free |
| 10:12.59 | nena | then apt-get update |
| 10:13.00 | nena | but |
| 10:13.05 | nena | apt-get -t experimental install qemu |
| 10:13.07 | nena | says me |
| 10:13.23 | nena | says me that qemu is already update |
| 10:13.52 | jelly-home | judd: versions qemu |
| 10:13.52 | judd | jelly-home: qemu -- etch: 0.8.2-4etch2 etch-security: 0.8.2-4etch2 etch-backports: 0.9.1-6~bpo40+2 lenny: 0.9.1-10 squeeze: 0.10.2-2 sid: 0.10.3-1 |
| 10:14.15 | jelly-home | nena: doesn't look like there is a qemu build in experimental at this moment |
| 10:15.02 | jelly-home | nena: if you're using Debian stable, the safest thing to get a newer version will probably be to make a backport |
| 10:15.09 | jelly-home | nena: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 10:16.03 | zhxk | i'm diligent |
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| 10:18.51 | nena | jelly-home, apt-get -t unstable install qemu |
| 10:18.57 | nena | it says me that qemu is update |
| 10:19.02 | nena | but is not! |
| 10:19.12 | nena | ii qemu 0.9.1-10 |
| 10:19.27 | nena | i would like the squeeze one |
| 10:19.43 | nena | i added the unstable line to sources.list,and updated |
| 10:19.54 | jelly-home | nena: don't do that. |
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| 10:20.16 | nena | ok. what then? use backport? |
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| 10:20.59 | jelly-home | nena: if you install anything from unstable, it will make your system a mix of stable and unstable and unsupported here. Yes, try making a backport the way dpkg told you. |
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| 10:21.06 | g00se_ | Any way to monitor which processes are IO-bound? |
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| 10:21.35 | jelly-home | nena: (assuming you did a "/msg dpkg ssb") |
| 10:22.04 | nena | jelly-home, yes i did. i'm following some howtos. thank you. |
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| 10:26.46 | Inglorion | hi |
| 10:27.05 | cahoot | g00se_: iostat in sysstat perhaps? |
| 10:27.12 | Inglorion | i just want to swear at the people who were involved with the exim4 upgrade process from etch to lenny |
| 10:27.41 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 10:27.46 | Inglorion | it is _not_ nice when the program tells you to RTFM if you have just spent the last 2 hours looking for documentation and come up with nothing useful |
| 10:28.18 | BevanCNS | lol |
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| 10:28.31 | g00se_ | cahoot: Thanks. I'll look into it |
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| 10:29.14 | simonrvn | !sunday |
| 10:29.15 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 10:29.39 | Inglorion | point taken, simonrvn |
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| 10:30.02 | Inglorion | honestly, i still think debian is great |
| 10:30.14 | Inglorion | i'm just incredibly frustrated |
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| 10:31.17 | BevanCNS | can anyone recommend a good bittorrent application for lenny that support scheduling besides deluge (found the schedule plugin dodgy). I currently use rtorrent which is good, just a bit plain |
| 10:31.40 | g00se_ | exim4 was something of a PITA when i last looked ;-) |
| 10:31.46 | Inglorion | eventually, i commented out the "PEBCAK" checks in update-exim4.conf, manually changed acl_whitelist_local_deny (which is unrelated) and now it works |
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| 10:32.33 | RichiH | i keep on forgetting that.. what is the name of that image viewer which does not need X and which of the elinks, links2 etc is the browser which can display images on cli? |
| 10:32.50 | Inglorion | so it turns out that the "user who does not accept config file updates and does not read docs [because they are nowhere to be found]" had perfectly fine configuration files, and it was the update script itself that was broken |
| 10:33.10 | zhxk | thanks for concern, it is solved |
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| 10:34.35 | Inglorion | and now that i am here anyway |
| 10:35.04 | Inglorion | can anyone help me by explaining what i should do to upgrade a xen-vserver system? |
| 10:35.22 | Inglorion | i have found _some_ pieces of information, but i don't have the whole picture |
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| 10:35.41 | Inglorion | is there or is there not still a kernel that supports both xen and vserver in lenny? |
| 10:35.47 | g00se_ | cahoot: Unless you know better, iostat doesn't seem to allow per-process reporting. The word 'process' at least doesn't appear in man iostat... |
| 10:36.27 | cahoot | g00se_: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sysst |
| 10:36.30 | cahoot | at |
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| 10:37.55 | unomi | for some reason virtualbox-ose tells me that i need to reconfigure /etc/init.d/vboxdrv but there is no such file |
| 10:37.59 | g00se_ | cahoot: Thanks. I think i might need pidstat |
| 10:38.01 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
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| 10:39.10 | Inglorion | no help? fine. have a nice day everybody |
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| 10:39.27 | xingu | !info iotop |
| 10:39.30 | dpkg | iotop: (simple top-like I/O monitor), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.2.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
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| 10:42.08 | g00se_ | xingu: Thanks. |
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| 10:44.23 | gps23 | hi |
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| 10:45.16 | gps23 | how can i know which ethernet type i am using, (10 Mbit/ Fast/ Gigabit etc) |
| 10:45.36 | petemc | ethtool |
| 10:46.23 | gps23 | petemc, thanks |
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| 10:50.19 | giusef | Hi all. Which package do I have to install to have Gnome in a given language? |
| 10:50.49 | pipegeek | Is there currently any way to configure how live-helper lays out the partition table on the disk image it's creating? I'd ideally like to have the debian install *second* rather than first, since windows will only recognize the first partition and I'd like that to contain a fat32 general-purpose filesystem. |
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| 10:52.34 | JockyWilson | Amarok 1.4. Debian lenny When i play mp3 and click on context/Artist Wikipedia it is just lots of languages listed (no info for the artist) |
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| 10:53.02 | Sazpaimon | can someone do me a favor and give me opendns's IPs? Nothing is resolving and I think my ISP's dns is down |
| 10:53.24 | action09 | Sazpaimon ok |
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| 10:53.47 | action09 | Sazpaimon 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 |
| 10:53.52 | Sazpaimon | thanks |
| 10:53.57 | action09 | np :) |
| 10:54.02 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
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| 10:54.51 | Sazpaimon | well that didnt fix it |
| 10:54.55 | Sazpaimon | maybe the router is screwy |
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| 11:16.50 | unixluser | hello. what is the best course of action to remove exim4 from my testing box? I'd like dovecot imap as it's replacement. I only want it to handle local mail (accessible via imap interface) |
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| 11:18.46 | harmz | anyone tell me where to find a jaunty powerpc release? |
| 11:19.01 | cahoot | ubuntu.com? |
| 11:19.24 | harmz | been there, only finding i386 |
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| 11:19.36 | cahoot | you know this is #debian? |
| 11:20.04 | harmz | yes |
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| 11:20.16 | harmz | asked the same in ubuntu forum they said come here |
| 11:20.22 | cahoot | haha |
| 11:20.29 | harmz | ok |
| 11:20.31 | unixluser | well, they're misled |
| 11:20.46 | harmz | I should go back to ubuntu chat? |
| 11:21.00 | cahoot | google? |
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| 11:21.10 | harmz | for? |
| 11:21.11 | unixluser | i wish i could bash.org that |
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| 11:21.52 | harmz | launchpad shows powerpc page of docs to search |
| 11:21.53 | unixluser | harmz: i bet they're having a go at you |
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| 11:24.02 | harmz | at ubuntu chat was told powerpc not discussed as much as at debian and that the architecture was basically the same. so the issue was install setup |
| 11:24.31 | harmz | anyone here using mac powerpc g4 |
| 11:24.36 | cahoot | harmz: the point is this channel is for debian not ubuntu |
| 11:24.50 | harmz | understood |
| 11:25.02 | cahoot | ok go on from there |
| 11:25.17 | harmz | if one has installed debian on powerpc |
| 11:25.25 | harmz | than steps should help with ubuntu |
| 11:25.47 | unixluser | but they're two entirely different beasts, catering to two entirely different crowds |
| 11:25.55 | harmz | i was not aware |
| 11:26.01 | unixluser | yes you were |
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| 11:26.26 | harmz | i mean, i thought they were built on unix either way |
| 11:26.32 | lolufail | hi there! |
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| 11:26.37 | lolufail | is ext4 stable on lenny? |
| 11:26.49 | lolufail | http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#For_people_who_are_running_Debian |
| 11:26.49 | lolufail | says... kinda :D |
| 11:27.10 | lolufail | so: xfs vs ext4 for a 15TB drive used for 10GB single files? |
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| 11:27.47 | harmz | on my way, any final thoughts? |
| 11:27.49 | lillis | how do I enable line/mic in? |
| 11:27.53 | lillis | or check if it's enabled |
| 11:27.56 | lillis | having problems with skype |
| 11:28.21 | avu | harmz, depending on what exactly you mean by that, you're either wrong or the same could be said about OS X. And you wouldn't ask ubuntu questions in ##mac either. |
| 11:28.29 | avu | there you go. a final thought. bye. |
| 11:28.38 | avu | lillis, alsamixer |
| 11:28.50 | harmz | thanx |
| 11:29.00 | unixluser | yes. note that ubuntu chose to stray from debian core. They must have good reasons for this. Ask them for their opinions in their own chan |
| 11:29.44 | lolufail | any opinions to my filesystem question :D ? |
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| 11:30.06 | lillis | avu: so if mic/line in is turned on and I still can't get any mic working in skype, do i need to configure skype or my os differently? :& |
| 11:30.08 | avu | lolufail, I wouldn't use either of those on production systems. so, no, I guess. :-) |
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| 11:30.24 | unixluser | lolufail: test it and make periodic backups |
| 11:30.33 | avu | lillis, keep in mind that alsamixer has different modes for playback and capture |
| 11:30.36 | lolufail | unixluser: that is my backup server :D |
| 11:30.45 | lolufail | avu: what would you recommend? |
| 11:30.47 | lolufail | ext3? |
| 11:30.49 | avu | lillis, you're probably interested in capture (switch with tab, see the manpage) |
| 11:31.02 | unixluser | lolufail: multiple backup points are good |
| 11:31.09 | unixluser | ;) |
| 11:31.13 | lolufail | lolufail: yeah, 15 tb :D |
| 11:31.13 | lolufail | sure |
| 11:31.20 | lolufail | space is cheap :D |
| 11:32.08 | avu | lolufail, right now, I only use ext3 on production systems, yes. I'll probably start using ext4 some time after squeeze was releases I guess |
| 11:32.24 | avu | released even |
| 11:32.29 | lolufail | is squeeze the next debian realease? |
| 11:32.35 | avu | it will be, yes |
| 11:32.39 | lolufail | k |
| 11:32.54 | lolufail | btw. will there be a kernel version jump within a debian release? |
| 11:33.05 | lolufail | such as to 2.6.28, where ext4 is marked stable ;) ? |
| 11:33.06 | lillis | avu: all mic/capture options are turned to semi-high in alsamixer |
| 11:33.14 | lillis | arecord test and then mplayer test gives me nothing |
| 11:33.15 | unixluser | yes. you can track kernel versions at packages.debian.org |
| 11:33.16 | lillis | just silence |
| 11:33.51 | avu | lillis, and the input source is set to line-in or mic or whatever you want to use? |
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| 11:33.57 | lillis | yes, to mic |
| 11:34.23 | avu | lillis, then I think I'm out of ideas, sorry |
| 11:34.31 | lolufail | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-2.6-amd64&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 11:34.33 | lolufail | meh |
| 11:34.33 | lillis | thanks for the help :) |
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| 11:34.43 | lolufail | so I would have to wait 2 releases? |
| 11:34.55 | avu | lolufail, there will probably be a lenny'n'half release sometime |
| 11:35.06 | avu | lolufail, which will bump the kernel version, just like with etch'n'half |
| 11:35.16 | lolufail | k |
| 11:35.34 | lolufail | avu: would I be able to upgrade ext3 to ext4 on-the-fly then? |
| 11:35.51 | avu | lolufail, yes but you won't get all the fancy new features then |
| 11:35.57 | lolufail | meh |
| 11:36.08 | lolufail | I still have a second 15tb raid on that machine ;) |
| 11:36.12 | lolufail | ill just leave it dry |
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| 11:38.40 | nuscire | cool |
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| 11:44.20 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
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| 12:02.46 | lillis | avu: in alsamixer, under the capture tab, there's no "mic" slider |
| 12:02.49 | lillis | just front mic and mic boost |
| 12:02.55 | lillis | there is one under playback though |
| 12:03.40 | avu | lillis, that's normal |
| 12:04.18 | lillis | but "mic" is the one I should use, right? |
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| 12:04.54 | lillis | now audacity gives me "error while opening sound device" as I try to record, didnt happen before.. |
| 12:04.57 | lillis | ugh |
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| 12:09.23 | Stanlin | hi |
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| 12:32.51 | Stanlin | help, W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/Release Unable to find expected entry maini/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 12:33.35 | lilbro | taff i approached a girl from my class |
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| 12:33.52 | lilbro | i was downstairs getting pizza, i wated for her to get out of the line, once she left the line on a rush out |
| 12:33.57 | lilbro | fallowed her sharply |
| 12:34.05 | lilbro | tall asian girl, smooth skin, round face, sunglasses |
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| 12:34.07 | lilbro | tight pants |
| 12:34.15 | lilbro | i could tear her clothes off and fuck her right there |
| 12:34.22 | lilbro | so i aproach her |
| 12:34.34 | lilbro | He, you into getting together with me caressingly? |
| 12:34.36 | KRF | lilbro, interesting but inappropiate content for #debian ;) |
| 12:34.43 | lilbro | fuck |
| 12:34.46 | lilbro | wrong channel guys |
| 12:35.09 | unomi | it could have been worse |
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| 12:37.29 | Stanlin | help, W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/Release Unable to find expected entry maini/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 12:38.00 | Stanlin | lilbro: in this channel we dont approach girl, nor like them |
| 12:38.06 | Stanlin | girls* |
| 12:38.13 | azeem | Stanlin: please keep it on topic |
| 12:38.30 | Stanlin | azeem any clue? |
| 12:38.34 | azeem | Stanlin: is "maini" a typo? |
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| 12:38.56 | Stanlin | azeem interesting... it is the original sources.list |
| 12:39.13 | azeem | I doubt it |
| 12:39.38 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
| 12:39.46 | Stanlin | azeem thank you |
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| 12:40.14 | azeem | Stanlin: cheers |
| 12:41.19 | Stanlin | where is the source for 2.6.29? |
| 12:41.42 | azeem | on kernel.or |
| 12:41.42 | azeem | g |
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| 12:47.48 | scum | hi there, my software router does masquerading is it possible to have it give out dns server names for people that connect to it? |
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| 12:49.16 | azeem | scum: does it run Debian? |
| 12:49.39 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
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| 12:52.50 | slushpuppeh | Hi, I have a few errors appearing in my shell, something like i/o error for /dev/hda1. When I ran shutdown -F now -r, then did fsck, it appears to have fixed it, but when I restart, the same i/o errors appear, and debian boots me back into the maintance shell |
| 12:53.19 | cahoot | souns like a good time to invest in a new disk |
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| 12:55.10 | Stanlin | what is the FASTEst ever forever Virtual machine enviroment?? |
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| 12:55.22 | cahoot | the brain |
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| 12:55.39 | Stanlin | runs apt-get brain |
| 12:55.45 | Stanlin | cahoot: fails |
| 12:56.25 | enouf | your brain forgot to install brain |
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| 12:57.48 | eagle1 | hi ppl |
| 12:57.59 | eagle1 | i've a strange issue with courier-imap after a kernel upgrade |
| 12:58.04 | eagle1 | it's very very slow |
| 12:58.13 | eagle1 | google say that can depend from FAM |
| 12:58.20 | eagle1 | that is up and running |
| 12:58.38 | eagle1 | but, how i can install courier-imap without fam support? |
| 12:58.43 | slushpuppeh | cahoot, any chance I could check the integrity without opening up the case? |
| 12:59.01 | enouf | eagle1: just stop fam from running |
| 12:59.10 | cahoot | slushpuppeh: maybe smartctl can be informative |
| 12:59.43 | eagle1 | enouf, i use the vanilla package from the debian repo, courier-imap is compiled with fam= |
| 12:59.44 | eagle1 | = |
| 12:59.46 | eagle1 | ? |
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| 13:00.30 | enouf | no idea ; /etc/init.d/fam stop ; and /msg dpkg rcconf |
| 13:00.44 | slushpuppeh | cahoot, alright, thanks so much |
| 13:01.25 | eagle1 | enouf, w8 |
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| 13:08.52 | balor | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't give me options to choose driver and resolution under lenny. Is there another way to do this? (the autodetected stuff is broken on my graphics card) |
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| 13:09.19 | cahoot | balor: you can disable edid |
| 13:10.17 | cahoot | Option âIgnoreEDIDâ âtrueâ (IIRC) |
| 13:11.26 | balor | cahoot: It's not just that. I need to tell X that 'Device "vesa"'. I can do it manually, but I was wondering about The Debian Way to do it. |
| 13:12.13 | et | there's nothing un-debian about editing config files |
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| 13:12.36 | lbt | I'm interested in getting a set of static gcc (+binutils...) binaries built for Debian. The idea is to build i586 gcc and install it in an armel qemu buildroot to accelerate builds. Is this anyone aware of others doing this? |
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| 13:13.12 | selveste1_ | hey, witch package provide lspci ? |
| 13:13.16 | balor | et: I'll do it manually then. |
| 13:13.41 | asg | selveste1_: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:15.27 | selveste1_ | asg - No results |
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| 13:16.50 | asg | selveste1_: did you read the bit about apt-file? |
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| 13:20.16 | kenter | на debian 5 не ÑабоÑÐ°ÐµÑ Ð¼Ð¸ÐºÑоÑон....ÑÑо надо ÑделаÑÑ? Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÑ ÐºÑо ÑÑалкивалÑÑ |
| 13:20.22 | selveste1_ | yes have also install apt-file, but Can't make an update |
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| 13:26.00 | asg | selveste1_: <dpkg> Debian Search of 'bin/lspci' (1): (/usr/bin/lspci) in admin/pciutils. |
| 13:26.18 | selveste1_ | asg - thanx |
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| 13:33.33 | jelly-home | !ru |
| 13:33.33 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:34.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | I'm supprised -ru is still on freenode |
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| 13:40.11 | jmonreal | hey all |
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| 13:40.47 | jmonreal | I have a question, and google didnt help much, or well i didnt know how to search |
| 13:40.58 | jmonreal | and i was wondering if anyone here could help me |
| 13:41.05 | jmonreal | many thanks |
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| 13:41.43 | jmonreal | i am trying to install kde4 |
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| 13:42.00 | jmonreal | but im getting dependencies problemes |
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| 13:42.22 | enouf | eagle1: can i stop w8ing now? |
| 13:42.39 | enouf | :-p |
| 13:43.01 | enouf | jmonreal: /msg dpkg kde4 |
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| 13:43.39 | jmonreal | enouf: what? |
| 13:43.58 | enouf | the question is why? |
| 13:44.00 | zxd | what's the difference between using mozplugger and /usr/lib/mime/packages |
| 13:44.04 | zxd | /etc/mailcap |
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| 13:44.41 | jmonreal | enouf: I tried debian-kde channel but i cant send messages, dunno why |
| 13:45.12 | enouf | !+tell jmonreal -about kde4 |
| 13:45.13 | dpkg | told jmonreal about kde4. |
| 13:46.11 | jmonreal | enouf: yeah, Im following the website since yesterday |
| 13:46.16 | jmonreal | but had no luck installing it |
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| 13:48.46 | eagle1 | enouf, LOL |
| 13:48.49 | eagle1 | sorry |
| 13:48.53 | eagle1 | i'm investigating |
| 13:49.12 | eagle1 | disabling the imapenhancedidle have did the trick |
| 13:49.21 | eagle1 | now i'm learning how to put dovecot instead courier :D |
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| 13:51.50 | enouf | imap+enhanced+idle should never be made into a sandwich! |
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| 14:13.15 | pasky | Hi, how much hassle is it to run 64bit desktop on current debian testing? Do the java and flash browser plugins work nicely? I have heard horror stories from the past but I don't know how better it got and it's hard to google out anything reasonably recent. |
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| 14:14.25 | Polarina | pasky: Not much. |
| 14:14.32 | Polarina | pasky: You can have java and flash. |
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| 14:16.02 | dewd | Hi how can I skip an post-installation script with apt ? |
| 14:16.04 | pasky | (I'm currently moving my desktop from gentoo to debian and pondering whether to go i386 or amd64...) |
| 14:16.36 | Polarina | pasky: You definitely should switch to amd64 as soon as possible. |
| 14:16.48 | alex1 | where i can find netinstall amd64 squeeze ? |
| 14:17.00 | Polarina | alex1: Install lenny and upgrade to squeeze. |
| 14:17.00 | dewd | I have virtualbox installed, virtual machines running so the modules are busy, post-install script fails because of this, now I am unable to install software |
| 14:17.12 | alex1 | squeeze not exist ? |
| 14:17.13 | dewd | virtual machines should stay running |
| 14:17.20 | alex1 | as netinstall |
| 14:17.21 | Polarina | alex1: No, not yet. |
| 14:17.55 | Polarina | pasky: But you might have issues with DNS resolving on Debian Squeeze. |
| 14:18.58 | Polarina | pasky: I would, before upgrading, do the following: aptitude install resolvconf && (echo "nameserver 4.2.2.2" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head) |
| 14:21.50 | alex1 | Polarina: it exist :) |
| 14:22.00 | alex1 | Polarina: my friend found it |
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| 14:22.20 | Polarina | alex1: But it's not an official netinst. Use at your own risk. |
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| 14:23.46 | Stanlin | !tv |
| 14:23.46 | dpkg | tv is, like, KILL YOUR TELEVISION! (by watching it until it burns out), or modprobe bttv msp3400 tuner; wmtvmotv, or xawtv, or tvtime |
| 14:24.43 | tdn | I need to reinstall a Debian system. Therefore I would like to export the list of installed packages, so that I can easily install the same packages on the new system. How do I do this? |
| 14:25.10 | Stanlin | !flash |
| 14:25.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 14:27.53 | Stanlin | how to add non free? |
| 14:28.15 | rudi_s | tdn: dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' works for me, but I'm sure there is a better way. |
| 14:28.17 | Polarina | Non-free is evil, avoid it at all costs. |
| 14:28.34 | Stanlin | Polarina: how to install adobe flash player? |
| 14:28.45 | danny | Stanlin, add something like this to you /etc/apt/source.list |
| 14:28.51 | danny | deb http://mirror.isoc.org.il/pub/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
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| 14:33.41 | tdn | rudi_s, I found a better way described here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/blog/eksporter-liste-over-installerede-pakker (not English, but the commands are easy to extract) |
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| 14:35.39 | rudi_s | tdn: Nice. Much better. |
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| 14:37.00 | dbbolton | how can i tell the local ip of a machine that has been assigned by dhcp? |
| 14:37.25 | Kvant | with ifconfig |
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| 14:38.06 | dbbolton | Kvant must that be executed as root? |
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| 14:38.21 | Rusty1_ | dpkg --get-selections tdn http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/show-the-list-of-installed-packages-on-ubuntu-or-debian/ |
| 14:38.21 | dpkg | Rusty1_: You are moron #1 |
| 14:38.33 | Kvant | no, you can do /sbin/ifconfig ; works fine |
| 14:39.34 | dbbolton | Kvant interesting. would it be a bad idea to just go ahead and add /sbin/ to my $PATH ? |
| 14:40.06 | Kvant | dunno |
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| 14:40.57 | dbbolton | how can i figure out the ips of other machines on the local network without getting out of my chair? |
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| 14:42.14 | scientes_ | how do i figure out what package owns a file |
| 14:43.10 | pobega | scientes_: dpkg-query -S <file> |
| 14:43.11 | Ace2017_- | where can you get firefox 3.5beta4 for 64bit debian? could it be added to experimental? |
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| 14:44.09 | pasky | Polarina: thanks! |
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| 14:45.23 | scientes_ | wheres the file i put kernel parameters in for post boot, ie echo "1" > /proc/foo/bar |
| 14:45.37 | asg | scientes_: /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 14:46.32 | Rusty1_ | dbbolton, aptitude install cheops |
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| 14:47.49 | nabziF | recently I've started getting error messages about missing RANDR extension when I launch many programs in vncserver sessions. "Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":1.0". |
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| 14:49.22 | nabziF | some of the programs trigger that warning : gnome-terminal / firefox / evince ... programs like xeyes / xterm / xpdf ... do not print the message. |
| 14:49.45 | Ace2017_- | have you tried ignoring it? |
| 14:50.06 | zhxk | so good linux/unix it is! |
| 14:50.10 | nabziF | does anyone know of a vnc server that supports RANDR? or how to silence the message? |
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| 14:51.07 | Ace2017_- | nabziF: did you google it? tried enabling composite? |
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| 14:52.09 | nabziF | (I'd prefer to get RANDR support in vnc so I can resize my session ... depending on where I'm at there are 4 different monitor sizes and I've been living with the smallest size that can go into full screen) |
| 14:52.10 | eagle1 | anyone use imapproxy? |
| 14:52.32 | nabziF | Ace2017_-: yes to google ... didn't see any composite suggestions. searching with that word added in now. |
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| 14:54.00 | Ace2017_- | nabziF: didn't find this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963878 |
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| 14:58.47 | nabziF | Ace2017_-: I see that now, it I had added "vnc" to my searches before. that page does not apply, the based on what I see in docs Xvnc server does not read any "xorg.conf" and so an "Extention" like Option "Composite" "Enable" ... doesn't apply. |
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| 15:00.09 | nabziF | a simple test case: vncserver :1 # pick a display number that's not in use. then ... in same terminal after server is started. DISPLAY=:1 gnome-terminal |
| 15:00.30 | Ace2017_- | do the apps work fine? |
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| 15:00.37 | Ace2017_- | if they do you can just ignore it |
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| 15:04.19 | nabziF | Ace2017_-: well no. applications like xrandr don't work at all ;) (but it has never worked before) |
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| 15:06.33 | JockyWilson | Amarok 1.4 DebianLenny the context/artist/wikipedia is broken in this version, how do i install Amarok 2 on DebianLenny? |
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| 15:07.41 | Gnu_Raiz | I am bummed tried a net install and no WPA support out of the block. |
| 15:07.54 | jelly-home | JockyWilson: you can't, it requires kde4 |
| 15:08.05 | Gnu_Raiz | anyone know if any cd, or dvd install has wpa support out of the box. |
| 15:08.08 | SPF | what is the opposite of the cmd split? |
| 15:08.20 | jelly-home | SPF: cat? |
| 15:08.26 | unomi | hi, generally speaking are fonts controlled by the wm or xorg.conf? i am using fluxbox |
| 15:08.29 | JockyWilson | where do i get Amarok 1.4 source to fix the bug? |
| 15:08.40 | SPF | jelly-home: yes but can it also cat binary files? |
| 15:08.44 | jelly-home | SPF: cat xaa xab xac ... > wholefile |
| 15:08.45 | asg | SPF: cat file.0 file.1 ... >> foofile |
| 15:09.02 | nabziF | ... now that I think about it, about two years ago I was able to use xrandr on a vnc session, by loading the "vnc.so" module / extension into a xorg or xfree86 server. the module was flaky (caused X server crashes) and was dropped from the debian packages within a month after it appeared. |
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| 15:09.53 | SPF | I'll give it a try |
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| 15:11.29 | SPF | ok, works |
| 15:11.43 | nabziF | unomi: the fonts used are ... aren't really controlled any one place. the application has ultimate control. but there are multiple font servers/configurations that can limit what fonts are available to the application to select from. |
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| 15:12.32 | nabziF | gnome/kde provide preferences menus that set "default fonts" for applications that bother to consult those defaults. |
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| 15:12.45 | wopr | hello |
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| 15:13.36 | wopr | hello :) anyone here had ever used shoutcast DSP? |
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| 15:16.40 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
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| 15:18.22 | unomi | nabziF: but in which file is it defined? |
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| 15:21.39 | nabziF | unomi: if you're using gnome the UI to change default fonts is gnome-appearance-properties (which is part of the gnome-control-center application) |
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| 15:22.27 | nabziF | many applications like firefox/gnome-terminal have their own preferences which can override the default controlled above. |
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| 15:23.11 | unomi | starting gnome-setting-daemon made the changes happen |
| 15:23.19 | nabziF | the fonts available to select with all of the UI's mentioned above are controlled ... several places. ~/.fonts.conf ... is the one under user control ... /etc/fonts is system wide. |
| 15:23.34 | unomi | not really sure I want a daemon running just to keep fonts in check though |
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| 15:24.23 | nabziF | but if you have deforma ... or other font configuration packages installed they will plug something into the /etc/fonts area and maintain their additional configuration someplace else |
| 15:24.28 | unomi | and killing the daemon causes reverts |
| 15:24.54 | paddyez | anybody an idea with my problem? http://paste.debian.net/35117/ |
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| 15:25.40 | nabziF | typo deforma == defoma |
| 15:25.56 | nabziF | unomi: which applications do you want to use a particular font? |
| 15:26.25 | paddyez | kde has been broken already on another installation of mine :-( |
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| 15:26.54 | etchPRSN | kde has been broken for five years :-) |
| 15:27.32 | unomi | nabziF: mozilla and pidgin |
| 15:27.45 | nabziF | i've never spent much time figuring out where in the mess of processes gnome starts up the "current configuration state" is stored... I think it's stored in ram by some server who sends out notifications of changes to all clients when a change is made... so if you're using gnome applications you might have to run that process if you want control of fonts. |
| 15:28.50 | etchPRSN | cant we just load our fonts and be happy with them :--) |
| 15:28.53 | nabziF | unomi: firefox ... should have a font preferences dialog to override default ... check out : edit -> preferences -> content -> fonts & colors |
| 15:29.16 | paddyez | etchPRSN: does this mean I am back to icewm forever? |
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| 15:29.21 | nabziF | (you've said mozilla ... but I'm hoping you meant iceweasel (aka firefox)) |
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| 15:29.52 | etchPRSN | lol... well... ice is pretty cool (pun intneded) |
| 15:29.52 | unomi | nabziF: yes, iceweasel, the 'content' font is fine |
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| 15:29.58 | unomi | but the menus are all huge |
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| 15:30.34 | honschu | hi, is there a 2D graphic pattern matcher lib or tool? |
| 15:30.37 | unomi | the strange thing is that if I startx with a low rez and then change up, the fonts stay like I like them, but if I start in a large rez they are too large |
| 15:30.52 | unomi | So I think it may be some kind of dpi setting in xorg.conf |
| 15:30.55 | nabziF | ok ... if you are running applications as huge as iceweasel/pidgen ... then running a tiny server to manage the font isn't much overhead ;) |
| 15:31.02 | unomi | true true |
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| 15:31.09 | etchPRSN | honschu err... what would such an application do exactly ? |
| 15:31.25 | Wyzard | unomi: modern monitors can report their physical dimensions to software |
| 15:31.40 | Wyzard | unomi: xorg *calculates* the correct DPI for whatever resolution you start with |
| 15:31.58 | unomi | xorg auto settings have not been kind to me |
| 15:32.01 | honschu | etchPRSN: If there is a given symbol, like a circle, found in a given picture. yes/no and if where |
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| 15:32.15 | unomi | i had to put in my own modelines to get a proper rez |
| 15:32.21 | honschu | etchPRSN: I looked at some ocr stuff, but this is only for text |
| 15:32.40 | paddyez | etchPRSN: it is fast an never caused any problems |
| 15:32.40 | nabziF | unomi: you can check the current dpi values using ... xrandr (run command with no options) .. this is assuming you have RANDR extension enabled |
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| 15:32.55 | etchPRSN | honschu interesting... yea... I was going to suggest something like facial recognition |
| 15:33.02 | nabziF | look for lines like : VGA-0 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 550mm x 343mm |
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| 15:33.12 | unomi | its saying 310mm x 230mm |
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| 15:33.18 | Wyzard | hmm, xrandr doesn't seem to report dpi |
| 15:33.21 | Wyzard | xdpyinfo does, though |
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| 15:33.37 | Wyzard | about two pages down, under "screen #0:" |
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| 15:33.54 | unomi | 131x133 dots per inch |
| 15:33.55 | nabziF | unomi: no but DPI is calculated based on the physical mm and pixel count which are both on that line ;) |
| 15:33.56 | honschu | etchPRSN: Do you know of a free tool/lib? |
| 15:34.05 | unomi | at 1600x1200 pixels (310x230 millimeters) |
| 15:34.05 | etchPRSN | paddyez if its fast you want, blackbox is still about the best Ive seen |
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| 15:34.16 | etchPRSN | honschu sorry nope |
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| 15:34.50 | Wyzard | nabziF: unless it's done internally by a driver and the dimesions aren't reported back to xorg -- I get 0mm for both dimensions, probably due to using the non-free nvidia driver, but my dpi is still correct |
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| 15:36.56 | Wyzard | unomi: Your DPI is correct based on those numbers, but the dimensions seem a bit small |
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| 15:37.13 | Wyzard | unomi: Is your monitor really only 310mm wide? |
| 15:37.34 | Wyzard | (That's about 12.2 inches) |
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| 15:37.58 | TongueOfColicab | Hi i cant understand whats is happening with the Debian ISO files ive downloaded, recently two days ago i tried to install Debian 5.0 from |
| 15:38.01 | TongueOfColicab | DVD1 |
| 15:38.13 | unomi | Wyzard: no |
| 15:38.22 | unomi | nor is it huge |
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| 15:38.28 | unomi | 17" |
| 15:38.30 | TongueOfColicab | and i got an error, yesterday i tried from CD1 iso and also got an error |
| 15:39.37 | Wyzard | unomi: just did the trig... 310x230 is a 15.2" diagonal |
| 15:39.49 | TongueOfColicab | DVD1 cant find jfsutils in "load components" step in installation process |
| 15:39.56 | unomi | http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/12153188/Mag_786PF_17_Flat_Screen.html |
| 15:40.11 | Wyzard | unomi: If you've already had problems with autodetected values, your monitor may be misreporting its dimensions too |
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| 15:40.38 | Wyzard | unomi: There's a "DisplaySize" parameter you can specify in xorg.conf to provide the real dimensions |
| 15:41.07 | unomi | what is the command to generate modelines? |
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| 15:42.16 | anodesni | Hi, I get tearing with zsnes 1.51 under debian lenny. Is there something I can do about that? |
| 15:42.25 | TongueOfColicab | Did anyone successfully install Debian 5.0 Lenny+ |
| 15:42.40 | unomi | I installed it a few days ago TongueOfColicab |
| 15:43.03 | TongueOfColicab | Did you download the ISO file from the official site+ |
| 15:43.26 | unomi | I used the hdinstall image and wrote it to a usb stick |
| 15:44.13 | TongueOfColicab | isnt the hdinstall the same that the iso files |
| 15:44.28 | unomi | its much smaller |
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| 15:44.51 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm trying to make mplayer behave in lenny - it's failing & giving me a video output error. Apart from trying each option in mpalyers config in turn, can anyone tell me how I can discover what video my box has? |
| 15:44.52 | wopr | anyone here had ever used a webradio? I need help please |
| 15:45.12 | TongueOfColicab | ive tried with DVD1 and CD1 iso files without success |
| 15:45.21 | Ace2017_- | jpinx-eeepc: try smplayer |
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| 15:45.42 | jpinx-eeepc | Ace2017_-: what;'s the difference? |
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| 15:46.42 | Wyzard | TongueOfColicab: and what's the problem you run into when you try to install? |
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| 15:47.24 | alex1 | can i install debian on ext4 ? :) |
| 15:47.44 | TongueOfColicab | from DVD1 in "load components" step, it cant find the jfsutils file |
| 15:47.56 | Wyzard | alex1: lenny's kernel doesn't support it, but sid has 2.6.29 |
| 15:47.59 | TongueOfColicab | and cannot continue with installation process |
| 15:48.07 | Wyzard | alex1: so there may be an unofficial install image with a newer kernel |
| 15:48.19 | TongueOfColicab | with CD1 i got a different error |
| 15:48.27 | unomi | TongueOfColicab: so, try the hdinstall and use a usb stick |
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| 15:48.36 | anodesni | Is there a way to enable vsync for specific applications? |
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| 15:49.01 | unomi | TongueOfColicab: did you make sure there were no errors in your burn? |
| 15:49.05 | unomi | verified data? |
| 15:49.10 | alex1 | Wyzard: and what about testing release ? |
| 15:49.40 | Wyzard | alex1: The testing installer might work; I don't know what kernel it currently uses |
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| 15:50.10 | Wyzard | alex1: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ if you want to try it |
| 15:50.13 | alex1 | Wyzard: its this image -> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 15:50.27 | Wyzard | looks like it |
| 15:50.51 | TongueOfColicab | i dont why but installation process cant find the jfsutils file, but if i search for it manually i can find it at /pool/main/j/jfsutils directory |
| 15:51.25 | Wyzard | TongueOfColicab: Is it that it couldn't find it, or it couldn't read it? |
| 15:51.31 | Wyzard | TongueOfColicab: could be a bad burn, with read errors in that file |
| 15:51.33 | adb | alex1: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 15:52.21 | scientes | hoe do i connect to a tty, /dev/pts/3 |
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| 15:52.40 | alex1 | adb: thank you |
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| 15:52.50 | adb | yw |
| 15:53.01 | TongueOfColicab | i know but CD1 iso is giving me problems too |
| 15:53.15 | TongueOfColicab | i would try with unomi solution |
| 15:53.19 | Wyzard | TongueOfColicab: which could also be explained by a bad burn |
| 15:53.21 | TongueOfColicab | try from hdinstall |
| 15:53.36 | alex1 | adb: please did you try it ? |
| 15:53.37 | Wyzard | which is why unomi recommended checking that it burned correctly |
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| 15:54.26 | TongueOfColicab | i check it with a md5sum utility |
| 15:54.43 | adb | why me ? |
| 15:54.45 | Wyzard | md5sum /dev/cdrom, you mean? |
| 15:54.46 | unomi | thats only for the iso file |
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| 15:54.51 | Wyzard | and compare against the .iso file |
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| 15:54.54 | TongueOfColicab | and iso file was the same of burned dvd |
| 15:56.02 | adb | install on amd64 , laptop? |
| 15:56.27 | adb | how new hardware |
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| 15:57.34 | TongueOfColicab | im looking for the hdinstall files and i can see boot.img.gz, initrd.gz, vmlinuz files into directory |
| 15:57.57 | adb | TongueOfColicab: ^^^ |
| 15:58.08 | alex1 | Wyzard: 2.6.28 support ext4 ? |
| 15:58.13 | Wyzard | alex1: yes |
| 15:58.14 | adb | yes |
| 15:58.20 | TongueOfColicab | gg, sorry i speak spanish trying to do it well in english |
| 15:58.28 | adb | !es |
| 15:58.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:58.30 | TongueOfColicab | to find some help |
| 15:58.39 | alex1 | thanks :) |
| 15:58.48 | TongueOfColicab | i tried there too |
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| 16:00.19 | TongueOfColicab | must i download all that files+ |
| 16:00.59 | Wyzard | I'd suggest doing a netinst, actually |
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| 16:01.36 | Wyzard | It's simpler than hdinstall (burn a CD and boot from it, just like what you were doing before) but the CD is much smaller |
| 16:01.36 | TongueOfColicab | gg, i would try but |
| 16:01.45 | Wyzard | fewer things that are needed from it |
| 16:01.53 | TongueOfColicab | my network card isnt detected too |
| 16:02.18 | TongueOfColicab | just those 3 files+ |
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| 16:04.02 | adb | TongueOfColicab: try http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:04.59 | wopr | anyone here had ever used a webradio? I need help please |
| 16:05.14 | TongueOfColicab | i would try it too |
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| 16:05.37 | wopr | anyone here had ever used a webradio? I need help please |
| 16:06.06 | Wyzard | wopr: Do you mean something like Shoutcast streams, or something else? |
| 16:06.09 | etchPRSN | webradio... or wifi ? |
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| 16:06.43 | wopr | exactly Wyzard: i have a shoutcast server. I need to strem audio to this server, trough a DSP |
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| 16:07.21 | Wyzard | I've listened to streams, but know nothing about setting up the "transmitting" end |
| 16:07.49 | wopr | thanks anyway Wyzard |
| 16:08.01 | wopr | etchPRSN, webradio... |
| 16:08.12 | wopr | i need to stream audio over that server |
| 16:08.15 | TongueOfColicab | i have a C2D processor and a DG33BU intel motherboard, and ive downloaded iso for i386 architecture, can this be a problem |
| 16:09.01 | Wyzard | TongueOfColicab: no, Intel 64 processors can run 32-bit x86 software |
| 16:09.02 | Mood | is it possible to use dd to "burn" a mac *.bin image onto a linux floppy disk? |
| 16:09.30 | Wyzard | TongueOfColicab: If you want to use your system's 64-bit capabilities you should download the "amd64" installer, instead, but i386 will work for a 32-bit installation |
| 16:10.59 | Wyzard | Mood: Does the .bin image contain a filesystem? |
| 16:11.00 | etchPRSN | "a linux floppy disc" ? |
| 16:11.56 | Mood | Wyzard: not sure. it's the "system disk" for mac from penguinppc |
| 16:12.23 | Mood | Wyzard: is there a way of checking to see whether a *.bin has a filesystem? |
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| 16:12.42 | Wyzard | Mood: If you're raw-writing a disk like that, you're replacing whatever filesystem used to be on the disk, so talking about a "linux floppy disk" makes no sense |
| 16:12.53 | Mood | Wyzard: the *.bin file is a mac boot disk, so i'm guessing that yes it has a file system |
| 16:13.02 | Wyzard | Mood: but unless the .bin image is another filesystem, it probably doesn't make sense to raw-write to a disk |
| 16:13.12 | Wyzard | Mood: Run "file" on the .bin file |
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| 16:13.44 | TongueOfColicab | im downloading lenny-custom-0302.iso file from kmuto.jp website |
| 16:13.45 | adb | Mood: use diskcopy from macOS |
| 16:14.03 | etchPRSN | wonders if Mood just wants file copies, or a working CD,, from all this |
| 16:14.04 | Mood | running "file X", i get: SystemDisk2.3.1.smi.bin: data |
| 16:14.47 | TongueOfColicab | which intent to provide support for newer SATA and Ethernet devices |
| 16:14.50 | Wyzard | Mood: doesn't seem to be a filesystem, or maybe the "file" command doesn't recognize Mac filesystems |
| 16:15.19 | Mood | adb: use diskcopy from macOS X? or macOS 9.x? the system disk is for 9.x i believe, but i don't have access to that machine due to boot problems (hence my need for boot disk) |
| 16:15.48 | adb | reinstall macOS |
| 16:15.53 | Mood | Wyzard: hmm... i see what you mean. it says "data"... not sure what to do |
| 16:15.57 | Wyzard | Mood: Just try it and see if it works |
| 16:16.06 | Mood | Wyzard: try dd? |
| 16:16.09 | Wyzard | yeah |
| 16:16.25 | dimedo | hi, i set up an encrypted debian system start a dropbear server through initramfs to be able to unlock the machine over ssh. the neccessary scripts are taken from ubuntu, where the same setup works nicely. when i type in the passphrase locally everything still works fine. but if i log into it via ssh, manually unlock the device via cryptsetup and then kill the shell to continue the boot process, the system stands still after outputting 2 l |
| 16:16.25 | dimedo | inebreak after the line "waiting for /dev to be fully populated". please tell me the simple solution, as i'm sure there is one. |
| 16:16.29 | Mood | Wyzard: without creating a linux file system? |
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| 16:17.18 | Wyzard | Mood: a filesystem is just contents of a disk |
| 16:17.29 | Mood | Wyzard: ah, ok |
| 16:17.33 | Wyzard | Mood: you're providing the complete contents of the disk from your .bin file, rather than generating contents with mkfs |
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| 16:18.38 | Mood | i'm about to issue the command: "dd of=/dev/fd0 if=<file> bs=1024" -- is there a need to specify the bytesize at the end? |
| 16:18.55 | Wyzard | no need for the bs=1024 |
| 16:18.58 | Mood | ok |
| 16:19.04 | Wyzard | The default blocksize is 512, which is the sector size |
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| 16:20.54 | Wyzard | Mood: I'm assuming your .bin file is actually 1.44MB in size, btw -- if it's larger, it definitely wasn't meant to be written to the disk in this way |
| 16:20.56 | etchPRSN | dimedo the answer is... (I'll whisper so nobody else sees)... psss ssss sss |
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| 16:23.00 | Lastebil | I'm a tad confused over mdadm - at the moment, if I try to use apt-get to install mdadm... I get a list of installable files including citadel (an opensourced mail/bbs thing.) |
| 16:23.24 | Mood | Wyzard: the bin is only 633k |
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| 16:23.36 | Lastebil | A> is that ... normal under Lenny? (: B> I'd like to not do that by default, can I alter a apt setting for that. |
| 16:24.11 | nabziF | dimedo: are you able to use the local keyboard to ... investigate what script or process is hung? |
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| 16:24.36 | Wyzard | Mood: smaller isn't a problem |
| 16:24.38 | Azar | hello honorables! |
| 16:24.38 | etchPRSN | Lastebil last time I used apt-get it was for [getting] files, not installing them ? |
| 16:24.54 | Lastebil | etchPRSN: well, apt-get install. |
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| 16:25.06 | Lastebil | etchPRSN: i.e. 'apt-get install mdadm' |
| 16:25.10 | etchPRSN | silly me... |
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| 16:25.30 | Mood | hmm... running cmp /dev/fd0 <file> returns "cmp: EOF on <file>"... |
| 16:25.47 | Wyzard | Lastebil: mdam "recommends: postfix | mail-transport-agent" |
| 16:26.02 | Wyzard | Lastebil: maybe postfix isn't installable for some reason so apt is trying to find some other MTA to satisfy the recommends |
| 16:26.12 | nabziF | Mood: yes because the device holds 1440 blocks and your file ends early. |
| 16:26.31 | Mood | nabziF: ah, ok. that makes sense |
| 16:26.33 | Wyzard | Mood: That means it didn't find any discrepancies before it reached the end of the file |
| 16:26.34 | Lastebil | Wyzard: hmm. you know I don't think you and I have the same results, hang on. I'll update (fresh install tho.) |
| 16:26.40 | nabziF | Mood: hopefully you don't want to change the size of a device ;) |
| 16:27.11 | Wyzard | Lastebil: ah, in lenny it just recommends mail-transport-agent |
| 16:27.30 | Wyzard | Lastebil: the preference for postfix is in sid |
| 16:28.08 | Lastebil | Wyzard: aha. I wonder why it would default to citadel (: let's install postfix at the same time and see if this solves it. |
| 16:28.43 | Lastebil | no. how very odd. it STILL wants to install citadel. |
| 16:29.40 | etchPRSN | usually when debian starts installing deps it is a good thing |
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| 16:30.09 | rudi_s | Lastebil: You could try it with aptitude, there you can see exactly what's going on (sudo aptitude). |
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| 16:30.32 | Lastebil | rudi_s: will in a sec. right now I'm inspecting the reccomends list (thanks wyzard) |
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| 16:31.04 | daniesteban | hello! |
| 16:31.24 | Lastebil | etchPRSN: well sure, except, I don't _want_ a httpd accessable calendar/bbs solution on this box (: local mail transport, sure. bbs? no. |
| 16:31.40 | Lastebil | that's a bit heavy in terms of requirements for managing linux raid (: |
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| 16:32.21 | etchPRSN | did say "usually" :--) |
| 16:32.54 | Lastebil | yep (: and aptitude is listing the same items; and I believe wyzard has the right idea. I just wonder why it's defaulting to citadel as the default mta (: |
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| 16:33.21 | Wyzard | For whoever was asking earlier about installing on ext4: the current testing installer has a 2.6.29 kernel, which can mount ext4, but partman (the installer's partition-setup tool) has no option to create ext4 |
| 16:33.53 | Wyzard | Lastebil: I'd use aptitude, in interactive mode, as rudi_s suggested |
| 16:34.16 | Wyzard | When it marks citadel for installation, you can highlight it with the cursor to see what's depending on it |
| 16:34.27 | Azar | also, there is a README fun read in the aptitude area.. lots of tricks there |
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| 16:34.51 | Lastebil | for one machine, that would work. I'm doing 10 installs and scripting this... so interactive is a bit out of the question. |
| 16:35.14 | Lastebil | course, this may be the best solution for 'get to the next step' (: so I'll do that for now (: |
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| 16:37.15 | nabziF | anyone using xf4vnc ? (a non-packaged alternative vnc server to vnc4server) |
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| 16:38.16 | etchPRSN | non-packaged suggests to me that no one else in the world even knows about it :--) |
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| 16:38.45 | Lastebil | zabziF: I _have_ used it but I found it rather a pain to install. I changed to X11vnc. |
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| 16:42.13 | Lastebil | well there we go. solution: install MTA of choice first, mdadm then installs with no dependencies. |
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| 16:42.35 | Lastebil | all help offered very much appreciated, helped get me to a suitable answer. |
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| 16:47.54 | neuralbang | anyone know where i can found find out about (apparently) AutoFS problems ie syslog "Failed to Mount /media/whatever/.hidden"? TIA |
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| 16:53.02 | ewet | is this temporary that wine 1.1.15 is only in experimental? the wine team won't support any version below 1.1.15 anymore. that leaves the user (stable or even testing) pretty helpless... |
| 16:54.17 | Azar | you could search on debian packages site for a substitute that works for your version |
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| 16:55.35 | gigo | does aspell use a flat file list of words? |
| 16:55.42 | gigo | if so, can I found out which word list aspell is using? |
| 16:56.29 | Wyzard | gigo: I don't know what aspell uses, but word lists are typically kept in /usr/share/dict |
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| 16:57.03 | gigo | Wyzard, I want to know what aspell uses since it seems aspell knows more words than what is there in the /usr/share/dict |
| 16:57.11 | Wyzard | dunno then, sorry |
| 16:57.29 | ewet | Azar: I cannot find wine backports on d-p-a |
| 16:57.39 | ewet | s/a/o |
| 16:57.47 | Wyzard | gigo: "dpkg -L aspell" to see if it includes its own wordlist file, perhaps |
| 16:58.49 | Stanlin | where to get the 2.6.28 ?? |
| 16:58.52 | Stanlin | where to get the kernel 2.6.28 ?? |
| 16:59.10 | Wyzard | Stanlin: kernel.org? |
| 16:59.25 | Wyzard | snapshot.debian.net if you're looking for packages that are no longer available |
| 16:59.26 | Stanlin | no packages on debian? |
| 16:59.28 | amitz1 | I'm installing debian using debootstrap. I'm stuck in the step of creating bootloader. when I type grub-install /dev/sdb (inside chroot), it says that /dev/sdb is not found. Indeed /dev/sdb entry is not available within chroot but available in the containing debian (lenny). What to do? |
| 16:59.30 | Azar | ewet: I meant you could find a debian package that substitutes wine, I hope. You could do a search on Debian packages site for your debian version, or google, or maybe apt-cache search wine <-this might suggest you an alternate package |
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| 16:59.33 | Wyzard | sid has 2.6.29; dunno about squeeze |
| 16:59.48 | themill | judd kernels |
| 16:59.49 | Wyzard | lenny has nothing other than 2.6.26 officially supported |
| 16:59.50 | judd | themill: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.29-trunk-686 (2.6.29-1~experimental.2~snapshot.13314); sid: 2.6.29-1-686 (2.6.29-3); squeeze: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-15); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
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| 17:00.12 | Azar | uh new bot? where is apt? |
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| 17:00.44 | themill | Azar: "/msg dpkg judd". judd does different things |
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| 17:01.16 | Azar | themill: yeah I figured , but what happened to apt? was retired? |
| 17:01.24 | alex1 | how i can set in debian installation to install / and /home to one partition ? |
| 17:01.42 | Ace2017_- | don't make the /home partition |
| 17:01.55 | Wyzard | alex1: If you choose automatic partitioning, it asks whether you want a separate /home or not |
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| 17:02.08 | Wyzard | alex1: If you're doing manual partitioning, just don't make a separate /home partition |
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| 17:02.41 | alex1 | i m ask because when i made this without setting /home i couldnt log to system |
| 17:03.13 | Wyzard | alex1: Not having a home directory doesn't prevent you from logging in |
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| 17:03.27 | gigo | can someone help me in finding out which word list is used by aspell? |
| 17:03.31 | Wyzard | alex1: so your problem is something else |
| 17:03.54 | alex1 | i cant set one password :X |
| 17:03.54 | ewet | Azar: I see... |
| 17:04.05 | alex1 | any other passwords works but this not |
| 17:04.22 | alex1 | i always must change it in single user mode |
| 17:05.39 | themill | Azar: apt is still here... but I don't think its factoid db is in good condition though. |
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| 17:07.06 | alex1 | ok i am going to install it |
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| 17:08.36 | eptalon | heyas |
| 17:09.20 | eptalon | Is there an alternative for the shockwave flash player as distributed by adobe?- it does not seem to run stable on a 64 bit os? |
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| 17:10.38 | gigo | $ echo pacier orbier | aspell list |
| 17:10.39 | gigo | orbier |
| 17:10.54 | gigo | So, aspell identifies the word "pacier" but unable to find "orbier". I am unable to find on my system which has the word, "pacier". Please help. |
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| 17:11.25 | themill | dpkg: tell eptalon about flash |
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| 17:13.13 | eptalon | What I need is a plugin for mozilla, which one should I take? |
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| 17:15.02 | zhxk | greeting, may a nonwheel group member su into a wheel group? |
| 17:15.42 | adb | !tell eptalon about flash |
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| 17:17.02 | Wyzard | gigo: aspell Recommends: aspell-en | aspell-dictionary | aspell6a-dictionary |
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| 17:17.18 | Wyzard | gigo: aspell-en seems to contain a bunch of dictionary files |
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| 17:17.36 | Malle | enouf are you here =)? |
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| 17:18.26 | ringo999 | where can i get more free fonts for use with gimp? |
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| 17:18.59 | adb | apt-cache search xfonts |
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| 17:24.10 | dimedo | nabziF, no, theres no terminal |
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| 17:24.39 | cahoot | ringo999: google freefont |
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| 17:26.53 | clearscreen | Just wondering: is there a debian image that comes with the 3 'release types'? (stable, testing, unstable) |
| 17:27.15 | clearscreen | Or an image that allows one to select it (I dont mind network images) |
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| 17:27.26 | adb | no |
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| 17:27.44 | cahoot | only stable is 'released' |
| 17:27.51 | chuck | Will aptitude purge apache2 remove /var/www? |
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| 17:28.02 | clearscreen | cahoot: hence my usage of ' |
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| 17:28.17 | Alaisa | omfg awesome http://tinyurl.com/lolmaopwnd lol |
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| 17:29.56 | Polarina | !ops Alaisa (n=asdf@d86-33-254-104.cust.tele2.at) is spamming. |
| 17:29.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: polarina complains about: Alaisa (n=asdf@d86-33-254-104.cust.tele2.at) is spamming. |
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| 17:31.57 | dimedo | hi, i set up an encrypted debian system to start a dropbear server through initramfs thus enabling me to unlock the machine remotely over ssh. the neccessary scripts are taken from the ubuntu dropbear package, where the same setup works nicely. when i type in the passphrase locally everything still works fine. but if i log into it via ssh, manually unlock the device via cryptsetup and then kill the shell to continue the boot process, the s |
| 17:31.57 | dimedo | ystem stands still after outputting the following on the local screen: http://pastebin.com/m53e68a1 . any ideas? i'm totally stuck here. |
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| 17:33.14 | jimi | When running the command "apt-get install proftpd" in Linux, it asks if you want inetd or standalone mode. I need to automate this so that standalone is automatically chosen and there is no human interaction required. |
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| 17:34.38 | neuralbang | anyone know where i can found find out about (apparently) AutoFS problems ie syslog "Failed to Mount /media/whatever/.hidden"? TIA |
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| 17:38.13 | vinc456 | Does anybody know how I can install man pages for C headers? I've installed the manpages-dev package but certain headers don't seem to be available, such as ctype, math, stdlib, etc... |
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| 17:39.13 | vinc456 | On the other hand I can see time, assert, stdio, and signal, so I'm not sure what's going on. |
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| 17:40.23 | Polarina | vinc456: manpages-posix-dev |
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| 17:42.45 | olspookishmagus | can someone make dpkg tell me about redirection? xD |
| 17:43.43 | Polarina | !tell olspookishmagus about redirection |
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| 17:44.07 | n00bie | hi all |
| 17:44.19 | n00bie | anyone familiar with nexenta? |
| 17:44.29 | Polarina | n00bie: Ask your question. |
| 17:44.34 | Malle | my debian CD wont boot because my computer is so old, how can i then install debian? i dont have a OS on the HDD |
| 17:44.58 | Polarina | Malle: You probably need to change the boot priority in your BIOS. |
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| 17:45.13 | Malle | Polarina no its right, but as i said my computer is to old |
| 17:45.18 | Kevin` | what X driver should I use for 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF |
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| 17:46.01 | damasceno | Hey, i have installed in Virtual Machine(Vmware Workstation) the Debian Lenny, and use dhcp3-server with apt-get... |
| 17:46.15 | damasceno | i try /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start |
| 17:46.19 | damasceno | and return FAILED... |
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| 17:46.33 | damasceno | i have make anything? |
| 17:47.00 | n00bie | Polarina: got a problem with net driver. Clean Nexenta after install doesn't install it. I've got driver for OpenSolaris which works for OS just fine but i couldn't have installed it under Nexenta using pkgadd. Got message: error processing *.deb. Followed instructions :) |
| 17:47.09 | olspookishmagus | Polarina: nothing yet |
| 17:47.12 | n00bie | its 3c940 |
| 17:47.16 | vinc456 | Polarina: Great, thanks. ^_^ |
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| 17:48.09 | vinc456 | Just a little note: It's a little inconsistent from manpages-dev and you have to type 'man ctype.h' instead of just 'man ctype' |
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| 17:48.43 | LadyNikon | greetings |
| 17:48.53 | Polarina | vinc456: It is working properly. |
| 17:48.59 | zamba | i need to upgrade from etch to lenny, on a machine running 2.4 and lilo.. anything i need to consider? |
| 17:49.03 | LadyNikon | I was wondering if there was a good article on the pros and cons of using debian over ubuntu? |
| 17:49.24 | zamba | LadyNikon: ubuntu for desktops, debian for production servers.. simple as that |
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| 17:49.34 | Polarina | zamba: Debian for desktops too. |
| 17:49.37 | Kevin` | zamba: it would make things easier to upgrade to 2.6 at the same time. is there a reason you have to use 2.4? |
| 17:49.47 | zamba | Kevin`: no, i'd like to go over to 2.6 |
| 17:49.55 | Polarina | zamba: And GRUB? |
| 17:50.13 | zamba | well, not sure i really need grub, but it's more future proof, isn't it? :) |
| 17:50.28 | Polarina | I think it would be best to simply reinstall. |
| 17:50.28 | zamba | i believe lenny requires 2.6, no? |
| 17:50.37 | zamba | Polarina: err, what? :) |
| 17:50.43 | Polarina | zamba: Yes. |
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| 17:50.55 | zamba | Polarina: i've upgraded from etch to lenny earlier on a kernel running 2.4 |
| 17:51.00 | zamba | Polarina: no problems there |
| 17:51.08 | Kevin` | zamba: use grub, it allows you to fix the boot entry at boot time if you need to |
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| 17:51.31 | zamba | Kevin`: yeah.. but maybe just replace grub with lilo after a successful upgrade to lenny/2.6 or do it first? |
| 17:51.42 | Polarina | Why replace GRUB with LILO? |
| 17:51.45 | Polarina | No use of that. |
| 17:51.48 | Kevin` | the module handling package is different for 2.4 vs 2.6 but I suspect most of that stuff will be automatic |
| 17:51.53 | LadyNikon | replace grub with lilo? |
| 17:51.59 | Kevin` | zamba: replace lilo with grub |
| 17:51.59 | LadyNikon | isnt lilo deprecated? |
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| 17:52.32 | LadyNikon | sorry lilo with grub* |
| 17:54.20 | n00bie | anyone knows what happened with bitchX in sid repo? |
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| 17:57.27 | amphi | !bitchx |
| 17:57.27 | dpkg | BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>. Abandoned by upstream, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373. |
| 17:58.19 | n00bie | amphi: thanks :) |
| 17:58.57 | damasceno | I had installed dhcp3-server in my Debian lenny(In Virtual machine, vmware), but when i try start the software, return FAILED... |
| 17:59.10 | damasceno | i need open the ports in iptables? |
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| 18:01.56 | alex_anders | hi i cant join to this channel via IRSSI it say that i am banned O_o |
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| 18:02.26 | Kvant | alex_anders, are you running it as root? |
| 18:02.44 | alex_anders | ah not |
| 18:02.57 | alex_anders | but i can join to another channels |
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| 18:03.25 | wopr | buona serata a tutti! - good night people! |
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| 18:04.02 | Kvant | what nick is the irssi using? |
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| 18:04.34 | alex_anders | Kvant: aah i cant connect when i m using root |
| 18:04.51 | alex_anders | i just installed irssi and then run it :) |
| 18:04.55 | Kvant | so use another user |
| 18:04.57 | alex_anders | now is ok |
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| 18:05.07 | zamba | what's the etchnhalf-kernels? |
| 18:05.16 | alex_anders | i dont knew that i cant connect as root :) |
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| 18:06.11 | alex_anders | Kvant: can you help me ? How i can upgrade my lenny to testing version ? |
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| 18:06.35 | alex_anders | oh and i want upgrade my KDE 3.5.5 to KDE 4.2.2 if is it possible |
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| 18:09.54 | alex_anders | thank you |
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| 18:10.07 | jogla | hello |
| 18:10.17 | alex_anders | now i must go off...bye guys and thanks for support / help :) |
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| 18:10.54 | jogla | I downloaded a gnome package from testing with apt-pinning (i have lenny), this upgraded gconf, now i removed the package i installed and want to have my old version of gconf back, because i don't need the newer version |
| 18:10.58 | jogla | how can i get it back? |
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| 18:11.42 | deed02392 | what's everyone's favourite colour mini egg? |
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| 18:13.58 | action09 | blah |
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| 18:15.04 | amitz | is it normal for Release.gpg of security.debian.org to be different when I access it using wget and firefox? |
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| 18:17.57 | betz | Can someone teel me how to get the owner of a file or folder? |
| 18:18.22 | unomi | ls -l |
| 18:18.28 | unomi | err |
| 18:18.29 | unomi | ls -a |
| 18:18.35 | unomi | lol |
| 18:18.36 | et | -l was right |
| 18:18.37 | unomi | ls -l |
| 18:18.51 | unomi | performance anxiety :p |
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| 18:19.25 | amitz | there seems to be a few version of Release.gpg for security.debian.org .. does it have something to do with the different ip addresses of security.debian.org . It screws up my apt-cacher.ng . |
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| 18:21.11 | betz | allright, thanx unomi and et |
| 18:21.34 | teratoma | which debian package contains the nrpe daemon client ? |
| 18:21.56 | unomi | apt-cache search nrpe |
| 18:22.27 | adb | !tell teratoma about search |
| 18:22.48 | unomi | !tell unomi about search |
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| 18:24.45 | teratoma | adb / unomi: i tried that already. none of the results appear to be it. |
| 18:25.01 | adb | used apt-file ? |
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| 18:25.05 | unomi | nagios-nrpe-server - Nagios Remote Plugin Executor Server |
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| 18:25.40 | teratoma | unomi: that installs all of the nagios stuff |
| 18:25.44 | teratoma | i just want the nrpe daemon |
| 18:26.01 | unomi | I don't know that I can help you |
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| 18:28.10 | amitz | I'm scared. why my Release.gpg of security.debian.org has a few versions even though I lock it into one ip address of security.debian.org? |
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| 18:30.43 | adb | unomi: teratoma nagios-nrpe-server > /usr/sbin/nrpe |
| 18:30.46 | Azar | amitz: i guess it is normal when you try to obtain a package outside debian official sources. while on debian try using only debian trusted sources and avoid wget something from elsewhere |
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| 18:33.51 | amitz | Azar: I don't understandm |
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| 18:34.54 | amitz | Azar: I tried wget-ing Release.gpg a couple of times and their value can change to 1 out of a few choices! |
| 18:35.07 | amitz | from security.debian.org |
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| 18:40.29 | unomi | oh wow |
| 18:40.36 | unomi | finch rocks |
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| 18:41.04 | VBOXlover | fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image >> made a .deb , do i need to mkinitrd afterwards? |
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| 18:43.37 | VBOXlover | halp? |
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| 18:44.35 | Manoj | VBOXlover: are you running testing? |
| 18:44.45 | VBOXlover | yes sir |
| 18:45.36 | zamba | is there a way to turn off the checking of disks in the boot up? |
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| 18:45.52 | zamba | i'm going to reboot a server remotely and i don't want it to halt due to a disk check with errors |
| 18:45.55 | dvs | zamba: tune2fe -c 0 |
| 18:45.58 | dvs | zamba: tune2fs -c 0 |
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| 18:46.41 | betz | I try to aptitude upgrade, but i get following error: |
| 18:46.41 | betz | libpam-runtime: Depends: debconf (>= 1.5.19) but 1.5.11etch2 is installed and it is kept back. |
| 18:46.49 | zamba | dvs: that's one of the ORs.. the other is max days.. |
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| 18:46.51 | betz | what can i do about this? |
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| 18:47.05 | dvs | zamba: that one is mount count |
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| 18:47.16 | dvs | zamba: -i is for interval in days |
| 18:47.18 | zamba | dvs: but i need to just deactivate it for the next reboot |
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| 18:47.39 | zamba | dvs: is there a way to get the current values and then just rewrite them back in after the reboot? |
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| 18:48.22 | adama_ | I tried to downgrade python to 2.4.2 from 2.4.5,it appeared to work fine, now apt-cache policy python says 2.4.2 but python --version says 2.4.5 |
| 18:48.29 | dvs | zamba: I'm not sure. Try tune2fs /dev/sda1 or whatever |
| 18:49.04 | BCM43 | dns[3843]: Oops, father has gone, wait for me, wait...! |
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| 18:49.22 | BCM43 | I get a segfault when starting pidgin on debian sid. |
| 18:50.10 | Stanlin | !mkinitrd |
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| 18:50.19 | Stanlin | where is the mkinitrd? |
| 18:50.25 | zamba | dvs: nah, i'll just take my chances and reboot anyway :p |
| 18:50.42 | dvs | zamba: you could do a chkdsk before you reboot |
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| 18:50.52 | dvs | zamba: it won't fix anything but it will find any errors |
| 18:50.53 | zamba | dvs: on the / file system? |
| 18:50.54 | zamba | ok |
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| 18:51.06 | unomi | BCM43: try finch |
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| 18:51.16 | zamba | dvs: WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause |
| 18:51.17 | zamba | SEVERE filesystem damage. |
| 18:51.46 | zamba | not sure i want severe filesystem damage |
| 18:52.04 | BCM43 | unomi: annother chat client? |
| 18:52.20 | unomi | BCM43: its based on libpurple same like pidgin |
| 18:52.33 | unomi | seems to share the config for accounts etc |
| 18:52.40 | edju | using wicd. wireless networks in the neighborhood are recognized, but can't connect to mine. iwconfig shows AP not associated. any help appreciated. |
| 18:52.41 | unomi | but its text based :) |
| 18:52.51 | unomi | im trying it now and its pretty cool |
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| 18:52.59 | BCM43 | pidin runs fine as root |
| 18:53.06 | unomi | gets a little getting used to |
| 18:53.11 | unomi | pidgin is a hog |
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| 18:54.11 | betz | how can i upgrade debconf? |
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| 18:55.06 | OpenTokix | Anyone experienced with transatlantical high speed transfers? |
| 18:55.10 | BCM43 | unfancy_: i will try, thanks |
| 18:55.22 | OpenTokix | I can't seem to surpass 50Mbit |
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| 18:55.45 | slayton | is anybody here familiar with an light-weight alternative to LaTeX? |
| 18:56.05 | OpenTokix | slayton: html =) |
| 18:56.37 | dvs | *gasp* |
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| 18:57.14 | rudi_s | slayton: Although it's really an alternative, but for simple texts asciidoc is quite nice. |
| 18:57.26 | rudi_s | slayton: _not_ really of course |
| 18:57.35 | BCM43 | unomi: that gives me a seg fault too |
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| 18:57.39 | lip_skip_vt_ | hi |
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| 18:59.08 | slayton | what about reStructuredText? |
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| 19:03.52 | betz | Plz, could someone say what to about following error when trying to aptitude upgrade: |
| 19:03.53 | betz | libpam-runtime: Depends: debconf (>= 1.5.19) but 1.5.11etch2 is installed and it is kept back. |
| 19:04.13 | betz | i cent do annything anymore, i always get this error |
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| 19:08.12 | babbage | which is the program I can use to automatically set up sources.list? |
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| 19:09.03 | babbage | betz, what happens if you type "apt-get install debconf"? |
| 19:09.03 | rudi_s | babbage: synaptic should be able to do it, but you can edit by hand |
| 19:09.56 | BCM43 | where does debian put core files? |
| 19:10.10 | babbage | rudi_s, I know I can edit it by hand, but actually the problem is that I can't figure out how to install the buildbot package. apt-get install indicates that it knows of the package but can't find iut |
| 19:10.28 | babbage | BCM43, same as every other Unix, in the current directory! |
| 19:10.45 | jelly-home | babbage: except when they don't |
| 19:10.59 | BCM43 | babbage: i dont see it with ls |
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| 19:11.16 | babbage | jelly-home, I don't think I've ever seen a Unix that did not have that property |
| 19:11.16 | jelly-home | BCM43: did the process say the core was dumped? |
| 19:11.35 | BCM43 | jelly: no |
| 19:11.47 | jelly-home | BCM43: why do you think it was, then? |
| 19:11.52 | rudi_s | babbage: Works fine for me, i can sse it in aptitude. |
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| 19:12.19 | babbage | BCM43, it's probably because either your resource limits do not allow dumping core, or the program's changed its current directory by the time it fails, or the directory it wants to dump core into is not writable by the user as whom it is running, or the program is setuid/setgid |
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| 19:13.00 | BCM43 | jelly-home: i dont know following this: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GetABacktrace |
| 19:13.04 | jelly-home | or you forgot you changed /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern |
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| 19:14.28 | jelly-home | BCM43: open a terminal, run "ulimit -c", report the output |
| 19:14.35 | Braunne | I have an ATI RAdeon xpress 200M, what FPS should i expect from that card (running fglrx)? Im getting 1100fps, a guy with the very same card was getting 1700FPS! |
| 19:14.50 | jelly-home | BCM43: if it's "0", the dump file won't be created |
| 19:14.53 | betz | babbage: i tried apt-get install debconf, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m583bda71 |
| 19:14.56 | BCM43 | jelly-home: 0 |
| 19:15.33 | babbage | BCM43, well, that's the problem then. Your resource limit for core files is 0. |
| 19:15.35 | jelly-home | BCM43: run "ulimit -c unlimited", verify it changed, and then run your app _in that terminal_ |
| 19:16.42 | xingu | there's no limit ... no no no no |
| 19:16.54 | xingu | !beer jelly-home |
| 19:16.54 | dpkg | pours a litre of Franziskaner Hefeweizen for jelly-home |
| 19:16.56 | jelly-home | Braunne: fps in glxgears is not related to actual performance of a real app |
| 19:17.21 | babbage | betz: hahaha, it's a bug in my code. Just start by upgrading findutils. |
| 19:17.27 | Braunne | jelly-home: oh really? |
| 19:17.29 | jelly-home | suspects xingu to be inebriated! |
| 19:17.31 | BCM43 | jelly-home: that worked, thanks |
| 19:17.39 | jelly-home | Braunne: yarly! |
| 19:17.51 | Braunne | jelly-home: but that guy used glxgears to get that fps |
| 19:18.09 | Braunne | and that drove me crazy |
| 19:18.11 | amitz | please humor me, can someone paste the content of http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Release.gpg ? |
| 19:18.19 | jelly-home | Braunne: it doesn't mean some other app will work better or worse |
| 19:19.00 | Braunne | depends on the app then eh |
| 19:19.27 | betz | babbage: lol. CAn you say me how i can upgrade findutils? |
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| 19:19.54 | babbage | amitz, http://pastebin.com/d32ecf53c |
| 19:20.01 | babbage | betz, "apt-get install findutils" |
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| 19:20.20 | amitz | babbage: thank you very much! |
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| 19:21.39 | betz | babbage: this is the result http://pastebin.com/m19aea4bd |
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| 19:22.44 | EagleScreen | googleearth crash in Debian testing, this is the error: http://pastebin.com/d5a64274c |
| 19:23.06 | babbage | betz: OK, that is the same problem. |
| 19:23.12 | jelly-home | BCM43: there are lots of -dbg packages to be installed to make the backtrace actually useful |
| 19:23.53 | babbage | betz: we'll probably need to fix it manually. Could you run "dpkg -l findutils" and tell me the version that's installed? |
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| 19:24.14 | BCM43 | jelly-home: i installed pidgin-[something]-dbg |
| 19:24.19 | betz | babbage: 4.2.28-1etch1 |
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| 19:25.06 | Braunne | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:25.44 | babbage | betz, OK, just going to re-read that bit of code to figure out if there is a workaround. Back in 5. |
| 19:25.53 | Malle | my debian CD wont boot because my computer is so old (yes i have CDrom as 1st boot prior), how can i then install debian? i dont have a OS on the HDD |
| 19:25.55 | jmoncayo | hey guys i am running nvidia driver with compiz, sometimes it acts weird, i cant click the icons in my desktop, or i cant open de menus, etc |
| 19:26.00 | betz | babbage: thank you very much! |
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| 19:26.15 | EagleScreen | Malle: from floppy |
| 19:26.23 | Malle | EagleScreen how is that |
| 19:26.32 | Malle | i got floppy, but err now what |
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| 19:27.45 | EagleScreen | Malle: you win need some Floppy dick images and write them to some disks, first is for boot, second is to run Debian Installer, and the rest for CD-ROM and Ethernet drivers |
| 19:28.30 | amitz | I'm behind a hardcore proxy that screw up my apt-get update. Suppose I control a box in the internet outside this proxy. What keywords should I google to make my pc connect to this box and have this box get the apt-get update data? |
| 19:28.33 | babbage | betz: actually you may be able to do it with "dpkg -i". Could you check your /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory? It should already contain a later copy of findutils now. |
| 19:28.36 | Malle | EagleScreen where can i find thoose |
| 19:28.43 | Wyzard | EagleScreen: I think you mean "disk" :-P |
| 19:28.51 | EagleScreen | yes, disk |
| 19:29.16 | babbage | amitz: apt-get -o Acquire::http::Proxy=DIRECT ..... |
| 19:29.24 | EagleScreen | i am not sure if there are F. Disk images for the last Debian version |
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| 19:29.44 | amitz | babbage: oh, thanks |
| 19:29.50 | betz | babbage: i find findutils_4.2.28-1etch1_i386.deb and findutils_4.4.1-1_i386.deb |
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| 19:30.20 | EagleScreen | you win need Etch or Sarge images, install the Base System, and later upgrade to the newest version of Debian and install the rest of the components |
| 19:30.49 | babbage | betz: this might not work because of deps, but try dpkg --i blabla (where blabla is the file for findutils-4.4.1) |
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| 19:31.22 | betz | dpkg --i findutils_4.4.1-1_i386.deb |
| 19:31.22 | dpkg | betz: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 19:31.34 | betz | ow wrong window :) |
| 19:31.39 | babbage | Just "-i" not "--i". |
| 19:31.43 | zhxk | greeting, any electronic related tools for PCB and SCH job under linux? advice me |
| 19:31.51 | betz | ok |
| 19:31.58 | keith4_ | how do I make it so that new files that I create in my homedir are mode 700? |
| 19:32.12 | babbage | Zhxk: there is GEDA I think. |
| 19:32.40 | zhxk | babbage:thnak you |
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| 19:33.15 | babbage | zhxk: sorry, I meant GNU Electric : http://www.gnu.org/software/electric/ |
| 19:33.33 | betz | babbage: ok when i do dpkg -l findutils now i get version 4.4.1-1 |
| 19:33.34 | babbage | keith4, put "umask 077" in your profile |
| 19:33.48 | betz | so that worked |
| 19:34.07 | keith4_ | babbage, k, thanks |
| 19:34.21 | babbage | betz, cool. Try "apt-get install debconf" - it should work now. |
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| 19:35.39 | betz | babbage: should i Override local changes to /etc/pam.d/common-*? Yes/No? |
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| 19:35.58 | Cheef-Daniel | hi |
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| 19:36.21 | zhxk | babbage:electronic seems better |
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| 19:37.11 | Cheef-Daniel | I want to upgrade my etch to lenny, but because it is a virtual server I can't upgrade the kernel. The installed kernel is 2.6.18, would an upgrade work? |
| 19:37.44 | keith4_ | Cheef-Daniel, sure |
| 19:37.50 | Wyzard | betz: Unless you've intentionally customized those files, say yes |
| 19:38.54 | Cheef-Daniel | keith4_: I read somewhere that I need minimum kernel of 2.6.2X for lenny, if that is true I have a problem. |
| 19:39.08 | babbage | betz, I don't know for sure, depends what you changed, or what changed it for you. You can either view the diffs and make the call yourself or just trust the packager and say "I". |
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| 19:40.05 | keith4_ | Cheef-Daniel, where did you read that? |
| 19:40.17 | keith4_ | Cheef-Daniel, I can offer an example: http://pastebin.com/d408c7bc6 |
| 19:40.22 | Cheef-Daniel | I think it was an a debians wiki site |
| 19:41.28 | babbage | Cheef-Daniel, there is a 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 kernel in Lenny. |
| 19:41.30 | Stanlin | help, any guide to compile 2.6.29 ? |
| 19:41.36 | Stanlin | !compile |
| 19:41.36 | dpkg | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package, or something you should only do if you're SURE there isn't already a debian package that meets your needs, and never into places that could conflict with dpkg |
| 19:42.04 | Wyzard | babbage: Some virtualization technologies don't allow admins of virtual machines to change the kernel |
| 19:42.12 | keith4_ | babbage, that's not what he asked |
| 19:42.41 | babbage | Wyzard, it depends how they're set up. Xen 3.2.x (maybe 3.0.x+) can load the kernel from within the system image with pygrub |
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| 19:42.51 | keith4_ | Cheef-Daniel, you can definitely upgrade to Lenny on top of a 2.6.18 xen kernel, for example |
| 19:42.52 | hark | Cheef-Daniel: it should be fine |
| 19:42.52 | Stanlin | help |
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| 19:42.58 | Stanlin | !2.6.29 |
| 19:42.58 | dpkg | 2.6 |
| 19:43.10 | Stanlin | !kernel |
| 19:43.12 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.29.2, prepatch: 2.6.30-rc4, snapshot: 2.6.30-rc4-git1, 2.4: 2.4.37.1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.28-rc2-mm1 |
| 19:43.13 | Cheef-Daniel | keith4_: thank you I will try |
| 19:43.18 | Wyzard | babbage: vserver and openvz don't even use a separate kernel for each VM |
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| 19:44.14 | keith4_ | maybe he pays for a hosted VPS, and can't control how xen is configured |
| 19:44.15 | babbage | Wyzard, OK. That misses the whole benefit of virtualisation to me - I mainly use it for regression testing on other configurations |
| 19:44.21 | betz | babbage: so far, everything works smoothly, you rock! Kudos!!! |
| 19:44.43 | babbage | betz, well, don't tell me I'm great, I was the person who broke it in the first place :) |
| 19:45.03 | Cheef-Daniel | babbage: On a virtual server I can't install a new kernel by myself, only the hoster can do that (if he wants...) |
| 19:45.12 | Wyzard | babbage: then you wouldn't want to use those, but they're generally quite adequate for things like VPS hosting, and more lightweight than Xen/VMware/etc. |
| 19:45.29 | babbage | nods. |
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| 19:46.26 | babbage | betz, it's possible that other people upgrading from etch to lenny may have similar problems. |
| 19:47.17 | betz | awch |
| 19:48.06 | betz | babbage: ok, whole upgrade is done without any problems now, thanx |
| 19:50.06 | keith4_ | if I add "public_html" to /etc/skel... how do I make it so that it's owned by user:www-data after adduser runs? |
| 19:50.20 | keith4_ | it seems to make everything owned by user:user, no matter how I set it in /etc/skel |
| 19:51.07 | babbage | betz, great |
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| 19:51.45 | Guy^X | clear |
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| 19:53.35 | lbt | is there a way to get a dependency graph for a package |
| 19:53.48 | zhxk | greeting has there a "autocad" on linux,advice me |
| 19:53.48 | OpenTokix | Guy^X: you have to: aptitude install slash-keyboard-function |
| 19:53.53 | Stanlin | help |
| 19:54.07 | Guy^X | OpenTokix, thanks for that, but I don't have aptitude |
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| 19:54.12 | Stanlin | how to get the errors / logs from the last failed attempt to boot? |
| 19:54.30 | zhxk | greeting has there a "autocad" on linux,advice me |
| 19:54.36 | OpenTokix | Guy^X: hehe |
| 19:55.02 | babbage | betz, I couldn't find the problem in the Debian BTS, but Ubuntu is affected as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=835632 |
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| 19:55.23 | keith4_ | zhxk, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=autocad+linux |
| 19:55.33 | Cheef-Daniel | I found again where the kernel version was mentioned but I remembered the wrong versions so all is fine. (http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#data-backup, 4.1.1.1. Make sure you are on a suitable kernel) |
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| 19:55.51 | babbage | lbt: "apt-cache dotty" |
| 19:56.07 | lbt | babbage: thanks.. :) |
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| 20:00.14 | bravvve | hello,i have laptop with restor partition,vista preinstalled debian(expert partitionment) and i v installed windows xp this morning,i cant reinstall grub |
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| 20:03.25 | induction | greetings |
| 20:03.30 | igor47 | what does "System startup links for /etc/init.d/bind9 already exist." mean? |
| 20:03.32 | induction | I'm in need of an "expert" opinion |
| 20:03.55 | igor47 | there is clearly no startup links for bind9 anywhere in rc*.d |
| 20:04.09 | induction | Which logfile would you see as the most important? |
| 20:04.25 | bravvve | hello,i have laptop with restor partition,vista preinstalled debian(expert partitionment) and i v installed windows xp this morning,i cant reinstall grub |
| 20:04.52 | nkuttler | bravvve: install it from a cd or floppy |
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| 20:06.25 | bravvve | nkuttler: hello,i have laptop with restor partition,vista preinstalled debian(expert partitionment) and i v installed windows xp this morning,i cant reinstall grub,wen detecting discs in rescu mode juste for sda5 it gave me the option reinstall grub,but it did not install any thing |
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| 20:07.10 | nkuttler | bravvve: if you have a question please be precise and try to use readable english |
| 20:07.39 | bravvve | what word did u not inderstand? |
| 20:07.54 | babbage | "u"? |
| 20:08.00 | nkuttler | for starters |
| 20:08.03 | bravvve | you |
| 20:08.08 | bravvve | its u |
| 20:08.14 | bravvve | :-D |
| 20:08.41 | babbage | Bravvve:looks to me like the grub install was to the wrong disk maybe, but it's a long time since I've used it. |
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| 20:09.38 | bravvve | so the only idea that i have install minimum new debian |
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| 20:10.50 | babbage | induction, why do you ask? |
| 20:10.50 | induction | So anyone have an opinion on the most important log? I'm not here to challenge it, I just want to hear another opinion. |
| 20:10.54 | nkuttler | bravvve: it's easy to reinstall grub into the mbr, see man grub-install |
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| 20:11.26 | nkuttler | induction: define important |
| 20:11.32 | pippo | ciao |
| 20:11.33 | induction | Well basically because I heard a claim that says it would be syslog, and I'm in doubt |
| 20:11.44 | pippo | llist? |
| 20:12.00 | _5618_ | induction, /var/log/* are important |
| 20:12.01 | babbage | induction, the question is totally irrelevant, TBH. You can set up syslog to send the error messages wherever you like. |
| 20:12.28 | induction | _5618_: yes thats the place I'm talking about. |
| 20:12.29 | babbage | SO it depends on the contents of your syslog.conf file |
| 20:12.47 | induction | babbage: I see. Well that pretty much puts it all in perspective, now doesn't it. |
| 20:13.26 | induction | Thanks |
| 20:14.12 | _5618_ | in lenny, its ksyslog.conf, it took me couple of minutes to figure it out |
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| 20:15.14 | bravvve | nkuttler:i have 10 partitions |
| 20:15.26 | induction | Looks like its syslog.conf for me |
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| 20:15.52 | nkuttler | bravvve: what does that have to do with anything? |
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| 20:16.55 | bravvve | nkuttler:i do not understand |
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| 20:17.19 | nkuttler | bravvve: what is your question? |
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| 20:18.02 | _5618_ | induction, no, my mistake, its rsyslog.conf |
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| 20:18.41 | betz | babbage: hmm, one thing seem to have broken. When i do a updatedb now, i get a command not found error |
| 20:18.53 | betz | or has this changed now? |
| 20:19.48 | induction | _5618_: thanks but I don't think that'll be relevant for me |
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| 20:20.22 | betz | here's the same problem http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=131614 |
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| 20:23.02 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:23.15 | betz | babbage: its ok now, i installed mlocate |
| 20:23.37 | nkuttler | bravvve: grub-install /dev/sda |
| 20:24.26 | nkuttler | bravvve: oh, are you running this from cd? you may have to chroot or tell grub what your root directory is etc, not sure about that |
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| 20:24.42 | Selveste1_ | How can I install local lang for debian ? I wants to have Danish lang on my server. Im running Lenny |
| 20:24.42 | nkuttler | bravvve: although you can still boot from the grub command line |
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| 20:24.54 | nkuttler | Selveste1_: in which apps? |
| 20:25.16 | Selveste1_ | Debian in general - mostly in the shell |
| 20:25.39 | nkuttler | Selveste1_: there are various manpages-xx packages, dpkg-reconfigure locales etc |
| 20:26.02 | nkuttler | Selveste1_: but to be honest, i think it's much better to have all of that in english |
| 20:26.23 | bravvve | nkuttler: im runing it from cdrom |
| 20:27.09 | Selveste1_ | nkuttler: thanx anyway then :) You maybe right that English is best anyway |
| 20:27.17 | nkuttler | bravvve: grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 20:27.35 | babbage | betz, bah :) |
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| 20:28.22 | babbage | it's in the "locate" package. |
| 20:29.03 | bravvve | nkuttler: the graghic tool do not do that him self |
| 20:29.17 | nkuttler | bravvve: no idea what you're talking about |
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| 20:30.44 | roadi | hey there - i ave a small problem - i've installed gcc/g++,automake, glibc-dev,libc6 and so oh but if i make an #include <sys/stat.h> i get an error but the stat.h is there in /usr/include/sys/ could anybody give me a good hint what i am doing wrong? |
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| 20:32.09 | bravvve | nkuttler:rescu mode |
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| 20:38.45 | gabriel | i had 2 partition (/ et /home) i recently installed Debian on my partition where is the mount point /, but how can i recover my user account that is on my home ? |
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| 20:40.40 | paul0 | hi |
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| 21:00.05 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 21:09.08 | oskar- | hi, i don't know much about slab. but the memory amount slab uses after 40 days uptime on my 256m debian testing box is 178m. that is not normal, is it? perhaps a memory leak? |
| 21:09.30 | dirkD1 | any aufs experts here? |
| 21:09.32 | dirkD1 | http://dirkdokter.nl/help.png |
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| 21:19.11 | GhostlyDeath | For my SSH Server, how do I make it so everyone who logs in must provide a password so password-less logins are impossible? |
| 21:20.00 | dirkD1 | GhostlyDeath: you want to deny logins with a private key? |
| 21:20.05 | GhostlyDeath | yes |
| 21:20.59 | dirkD1 | RSAAuthentication No |
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| 21:21.01 | Polarina | GhostlyDeath: Why would you want to do that? Using publickey authentication is more secure. |
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| 21:24.49 | GhostlyDeath | well, someone was trying to hack into my SSH |
| 21:25.06 | GhostlyDeath | there a way to see what name they were trying to use? |
| 21:25.21 | OrkSovaj | Hey, I'd like to submit a feed back about the Debian site, I found something non-free. |
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| 21:25.33 | dirkD1 | GhostlyDeath: /var/log/secure |
| 21:25.43 | nkuttler | GhostlyDeath: just turn off password auth, or see PermitEmptyPasswords |
| 21:26.02 | nkuttler | OrkSovaj: i believe there's something in the bts for that |
| 21:26.09 | OrkSovaj | The favicon of the site is a .ico (Microsoft), but a .png could work very well |
| 21:26.24 | GhostlyDeath | OrkSovaj: How is that non-free? |
| 21:26.26 | OrkSovaj | nkuttler, I don't have time to go into the BTS |
| 21:26.36 | nkuttler | OrkSovaj: yeah, how is that non-free? |
| 21:26.41 | GhostlyDeath | OrkSovaj: All browsers use favicon.ico |
| 21:26.47 | Stanlin | Help!! http://dirkdokter.nl/help.png < urgent !!plz |
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| 21:26.50 | GhostlyDeath | So when they favorite it, it's the debian logo |
| 21:27.06 | GhostlyDeath | Works in practically every Mozilla and Internet Explorer |
| 21:27.09 | OrkSovaj | Kind of modified .bmp by Microsoft |
| 21:27.14 | GhostlyDeath | and has been around for ages |
| 21:27.23 | OrkSovaj | Yeah, but now site uses more and more .png |
| 21:27.32 | dirkD1 | we (me and Stanlin) are using this command: mount -t aufs -o br=/.tmpfs/.overlay=rw:/.tmpfs/.cdrom=ro:/.tmpfs/.sqfs=ro none /.union |
| 21:27.35 | OrkSovaj | Or at least .gid |
| 21:27.38 | OrkSovaj | *.gif |
| 21:27.40 | GhostlyDeath | Is BMP even patented? |
| 21:27.47 | GhostlyDeath | well GIF is full of patents |
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| 21:28.11 | OrkSovaj | .ico is a nn-standard BMP file. |
| 21:28.16 | OrkSovaj | *non |
| 21:28.48 | OrkSovaj | It adds an alpha channel. |
| 21:28.54 | OrkSovaj | Like png. |
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| 21:28.56 | pippijn | hi all |
| 21:29.07 | GhostlyDeath | OrkSovaj: Icons have a transparency index |
| 21:29.13 | abrotman | OrkSovaj: you can file a bug on www.debian.org if you'd like, but the .ico isn't proprietary IIRC |
| 21:29.20 | nkuttler | OrkSovaj: non-standard != non-free |
| 21:29.25 | pippijn | how can I find all leaf packages (i.e. ones that have nothing depending on them) |
| 21:29.31 | GhostlyDeath | OrkSovaj: What browsers support png as a favorite icon? |
| 21:29.34 | pippijn | for example, packages that were installed as "recommended" |
| 21:29.42 | GhostlyDeath | Using PNGs for the icon is non-standard |
| 21:29.48 | OrkSovaj | Firefox, Opera, IE 8 |
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| 21:30.05 | OrkSovaj | Don't knox for other browsers. |
| 21:30.26 | nkuttler | OrkSovaj: so about 50% of users won't see your favico. good job. |
| 21:30.44 | GhostlyDeath | plus if somebody favorites it in IE, they'll see the Debian logo! |
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| 21:30.58 | OrkSovaj | Hu Hu GhostInTheShell |
| 21:31.06 | OrkSovaj | * GhostlyDeath |
| 21:31.22 | amphi | people still use MSIE? |
| 21:31.33 | GhostlyDeath | amphi: I do when I'm on Windows, which is rare |
| 21:31.38 | nkuttler | amphi: check your logs |
| 21:32.04 | GhostlyDeath | IE is faster due to it's integration |
| 21:32.42 | GhostlyDeath | and FireFox uses too much damn memory |
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| 21:33.12 | OrkSovaj | Did you try Firefox 3.5b4 on Windows ? |
| 21:33.33 | OrkSovaj | So guys, it's time to sleep (French) |
| 21:33.41 | OrkSovaj | Have a nice day. |
| 21:33.47 | GhostlyDeath | bye |
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| 21:34.31 | lbt | in a debian/rules I have : touch configure-stamp - <- what's the - for? |
| 21:34.41 | GhostlyDeath | stdout or stdin |
| 21:34.47 | GhostlyDeath | usually |
| 21:34.53 | lbt | why would I touch that? |
| 21:35.03 | GhostlyDeath | Wouldn't know |
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| 21:35.25 | lbt | seems odd... (and in a non-privileged build it gets me a permission denied) |
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| 21:41.37 | lbt | .log built gpe-contacts gpe-filemanager gpe-timesheet gpe-todo gpesummary gpe-calendar in Maemo:Mer:Devel:Extras:Testing |
| 21:41.55 | lbt | oops sorry - wrong chan <blush> |
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| 21:50.13 | mib_i6ou7g | so. linux is installed on a system. no encryption, no bios password, no lock. could a keylogger be thrown into some directory using a livecd or whatnot to capture passwords sent to applications, etc.? |
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| 21:51.12 | dodon | mib_i6ou7g, sure |
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| 21:51.51 | dodon | mib_i6ou7g, when someone has physical access to your computer all bets are off. but it'd be better to use a hardware logger if they have physical access, no? |
| 21:52.14 | mib_i6ou7g | yes, but hardware keyloggers are noticable... |
| 21:52.18 | Noble | I don't have time to design my own web page. I need a neat looking and secure CMS. Suggestions? |
| 21:52.30 | mib_i6ou7g | google code? |
| 21:52.36 | mib_i6ou7g | or w/e |
| 21:52.38 | dodon | mib_i6ou7g, most people don't look for it. |
| 21:52.45 | mib_i6ou7g | i do |
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| 21:53.04 | dodon | mib_i6ou7g, if you're that paranoid you should encrypt your harddrive, I do ;) |
| 21:53.40 | rnd_name | dodon: what method do you use? |
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| 21:54.08 | dodon | rnd_name, I use the one in the installer. no trouble at all, very easy. |
| 21:54.15 | rnd_name | yeah |
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| 21:54.38 | rnd_name | takes forever to wipe the drive though |
| 21:54.40 | Manoj | is trying to set up a cross compilation tool chain, for practice |
| 21:54.47 | Manoj | this is harder than it ought to be |
| 21:55.05 | dodon | rnd_name, don't remember, but it's possible. not like you have to do it often anyway :) |
| 21:55.31 | Noble | uhm, are there any CMS in the debian/ubuntu repos? |
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| 21:55.48 | rnd_name | dodon: it was part of the process of installing to an encrypted lvm last time i made a fresh install |
| 21:56.03 | rnd_name | 40GB took about an hour. maybe less |
| 21:56.37 | dodon | rnd_name, yes, but you (or at least I) don't install that often. |
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| 22:03.33 | Kevin` | what driver would I use for a soundblaster-compatible (isa) card in debian? |
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| 22:04.07 | amphi | sb? |
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| 22:04.46 | Kevin` | FATAL: Error inserting sb (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko): No such device |
| 22:04.52 | Kevin` | oh, also, for alsa |
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| 22:07.44 | wonnytta | how do you turn off warnings on boot up? The splash screen switches from the splash image to verbose mode everytime there's a warning, the quiet option is there, any ideas? |
| 22:07.53 | GhostlyDeath | hmm /var/log/secure does not exist |
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| 22:08.06 | nkuttler | Kevin`: there are various sb modules, see the docs in the kernel tree if none works |
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| 22:08.37 | rnd_name | ... |
| 22:08.51 | rnd_name | i've never needed to do any special configuring of my SB |
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| 22:09.13 | Kevin` | rnd_name: ISA sb? and is it pnp? I don't think this one is |
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| 22:09.23 | Kevin` | at least, lspnp doesn't seem to list it |
| 22:09.36 | rnd_name | wonnytta: get to a console and enter 'dmesg -0' |
| 22:10.09 | Kevin` | it works in dos games though, so I doubt I have to do anything special |
| 22:10.49 | nkuttler | Kevin`: check your /var/log/messages, dmesg etc. do you have isa support, does the kernel try to autoload something etc |
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| 22:11.05 | wonnytta | rnd_name: dmesg: invalid option -- '0' |
| 22:11.17 | rnd_name | sorry |
| 22:11.17 | rnd_name | dmesg -n 0 |
| 22:12.39 | Kevin` | nkuttler: http://kwzs.be/~kevin/dmesg.txt |
| 22:12.42 | wonnytta | rnd_name: klogctl: Operation not permitted |
| 22:12.59 | Kevin` | nkuttler: last message is from me trying to load the oss one manually |
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| 22:13.14 | rnd_name | wonnytta: are you root? or using sudo |
| 22:13.22 | nkuttler | Kevin`: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found |
| 22:13.36 | wonnytta | rnd_name: using sudo |
| 22:13.40 | nkuttler | Kevin`: looks suspicious, can't help you with that though, haven't used such hardware in ages |
| 22:13.54 | jintxo | Kevin`, years ago, when I uwas using isa soundcards with linux, I had to run a tool called isapnp to initialize the pnp cards. this was many years ago, but maybe it still applies? |
| 22:14.07 | izua | has an ISA sound card! |
| 22:14.28 | jintxo | the resources of the cards weren't available until isapnp scanned the cards and set up the irqs and ioports and such |
| 22:14.35 | rnd_name | wonnytta: dmesg -n 1 |
| 22:14.35 | rnd_name | not 0 |
| 22:14.35 | rnd_name | sry |
| 22:14.36 | Kevin` | maybe, i dunno what package that tool would be part of though |
| 22:15.15 | nkuttler | !tell Kevin` about search |
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| 22:16.04 | jintxo | isapnptools it seems |
| 22:16.19 | wonnytta | rnd_name: tried that last one, get nothing. back to the prompt |
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| 22:17.11 | rnd_name | well it worked. the question is 'has it fixed your problem'? |
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| 22:18.22 | Kevin` | jintxo: no such package |
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| 22:19.30 | jintxo | Kevin`, yeah well my knowledge of the subject is not current at all :-) sorry dude |
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| 22:20.36 | nkuttler | Kevin`: there's pnputils |
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| 22:22.45 | Kevin` | nkuttler: doesn't list the card |
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| 22:23.26 | nkuttler | Kevin`: as i said earlier, there's something wrong with your pnp. maybe conflicting interrupts or something like that, check your bios (iirc) |
| 22:23.39 | nkuttler | Kevin`: it looks like that at least |
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| 22:27.48 | Sebboh | Can someone instruct dpkg to send me the reset root password factoid? |
| 22:28.14 | nkuttler | !i forgot root's password |
| 22:28.15 | dpkg | 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO (e.g. pre-sarge): 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 22:29.29 | cromag | can i tar a dir and send it via scp at the same time ? |
| 22:29.47 | nkuttler | cromag: sure, google tar pipe |
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| 22:30.25 | Sebboh | thanks. |
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| 22:33.03 | cromag | thanks |
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| 22:33.44 | powertool08 | Could somebody help me with ncmpc + mpd? I'm getting "error [11] problems creating socket" when I try to connect. |
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| 22:41.18 | keith4_ | how do I set the default shell for new users? |
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| 22:42.23 | patrikf | keith4: use --shell with adduser, or chsh |
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| 22:42.48 | keith4_ | patrikf, hmmm... i was hoping for something i could add to /etc/adduser.conf |
| 22:43.18 | abrotman | keith4_: did you man adduser.conf ? |
| 22:43.22 | patrikf | keith4_: ah, you want to set the default default shell ;-) read the manpage then |
| 22:44.16 | ajavid | so use Zend_Application_Bootstrap |
| 22:44.18 | ajavid | doh |
| 22:45.07 | keith4_ | abrotman, of course not! |
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| 22:45.10 | keith4_ | but i did now... thanks |
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| 22:46.14 | keith4_ | weird... it is set to bash. it must have been /bin/sh previously |
| 22:46.23 | lip_skip_vt_ | bye |
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| 22:51.20 | powertool08 | Whats the best way to get more updated packages in lenny besides a reinstall upgrade to the testing/unstable releases? |
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| 22:53.14 | simonrvn | won't bother to answer that, too many misconceptions involved.... |
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| 22:59.59 | micket | powertool08: backports or manually picking induvidual packages with the -t flag for apt-get. |
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| 23:01.40 | powertool08 | micket: Thanks, another question. If I install from source and use checkinstall, will aptitude find updates once the repo's pass the version of the source install? Or do I have to remember to check on my own? |
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| 23:03.22 | themill | powertool08: only if you use exactly the same package name and versioning scheme will that work; using a backport of the debian package is preferable. |
| 23:03.42 | powertool08 | themill: Ok, good to know. |
| 23:04.17 | Cheef-Daniel | i have an issue during the upgrade from etch to lenny on a hosted virtual server while installing udev: http://pastebin.com/d5df487dc |
| 23:04.37 | powertool08 | I'm actually asking because ncmpc broke and google only returns a couple of hits which aren't the same situation and I thought it might be easier to upgrade rather than find out what happened. |
| 23:05.31 | Cheef-Daniel | the error is /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.postinst: line 72: echo: write error: Operation not permitted |
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| 23:06.16 | Cheef-Daniel | what should I do next to resume the upgrade? |
| 23:06.28 | nkuttler | Cheef-Daniel: well, look at that line, find out where it's trying to write and make sure it's rw |
| 23:06.58 | \amethyst | nkuttler: if it's the same as here, echo > /sys/kernel/uevent_helper so it sounds like maybe kernel problems |
| 23:07.02 | nkuttler | !tell Cheef-Daniel about localized errors |
| 23:07.13 | nkuttler | ah |
| 23:07.35 | themill | "echo > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug" |
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| 23:07.40 | Cheef-Daniel | I did, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug |
| 23:08.12 | Cheef-Daniel | think it has to do with the virtualized system |
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| 23:08.16 | themill | Cheef-Daniel: we've seen this with quite a few virtual machines -- what sort of virtual machine is this? |
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| 23:08.55 | Cheef-Daniel | I don't know exactly, it's hosted by my provider |
| 23:08.58 | nkuttler | Cheef-Daniel: sounds like something you should bug your hoster about.. i guess |
| 23:09.28 | nkuttler | although i can't echo > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug here either |
| 23:09.41 | themill | Cheef-Daniel: what's the output of "uname -r"? |
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| 23:10.20 | Cheef-Daniel | 2.6.18-028stab059.3 |
| 23:11.22 | themill | istr that's a RHEL OpenVZ kernel |
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| 23:11.59 | nkuttler | Cheef-Daniel: are you sure you need udev for your vhost at all? |
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| 23:12.49 | Cheef-Daniel | no, it was automatically selected during aptitude full-upgrade |
| 23:13.22 | Cheef-Daniel | then I try to remove it |
| 23:13.38 | themill | Cheef-Daniel: "aptitude why udev" will tell you why it's installed |
| 23:14.09 | Cheef-Daniel | wine, now its clear thank you |
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| 23:17.20 | Cheef-Daniel | do I need another command than aptitude full-upgrade to resume the etch2lenny-upgrade? |
| 23:18.11 | themill | Cheef-Daniel: Try commenting out line 72 of the offending file and then you should be able to continue. |
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| 23:18.40 | Cheef-Daniel | themill, the udev error is gone, I removed udev |
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| 23:19.01 | bzed | Cheef-Daniel: removing udev is a BAD BAD idea in most of the cases |
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| 23:20.23 | bzed | Cheef-Daniel: oh well, in a virtualized environment its fine to remove it. missed that above |
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| 23:20.28 | Cheef-Daniel | bzed: aptitude why udev showed me only wine and libsane, both I dont need. |
| 23:20.40 | Cheef-Daniel | ah ok |
| 23:21.08 | abrotman | Cheef-Daniel: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. which version is it ? |
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| 23:21.59 | Cheef-Daniel | abrotman: 2.7-18 |
| 23:22.41 | abrotman | oh .. but not using a debian kernel .. so not using debian initramfs-tools |
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| 23:25.21 | Cheef-Daniel | abrotman: i don't understand what you mean exactly. Should I just remove initramfs-tools? |
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| 23:30.04 | krisfremen | i just did a fresh compile of vim72, but it's not working |
| 23:30.25 | krisfremen | mainly the zip addon isn't working |
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| 23:53.14 | Internat | !ops Julia`` is spamming in pm |
| 23:53.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: internat complains about: Julia`` is spamming in pm |
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| 23:53.33 | abrotman | go go a2! |
| 23:53.45 | abrotman | or not ? |
| 23:53.53 | Internat | i got onjoin spam... :( |
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| 23:54.12 | abrotman | go go Dave2! |
| 23:54.30 | abrotman | wonders why a2 didn't kill .. but whatever |
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| 23:55.36 | streuner__ | abrotman: he didnt get it... |
| 23:55.44 | streuner__ | (SPAM) |
| 23:55.54 | abrotman | streuner__: should have |
| 23:55.57 | streuner__ | hm |
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| 23:57.05 | Stanlin | help! how to compile a kernel step-by-step ? |
| 23:57.10 | Stanlin | !compile |
| 23:57.10 | dpkg | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package, or something you should only do if you're SURE there isn't already a debian package that meets your needs, and never into places that could conflict with dpkg |
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| 23:57.52 | abrotman | Stanlin: why would you compile a kernel? |
| 23:58.08 | Stanlin | abrotman: i need to patch my kernel, with tuxonice |
| 23:58.14 | unomi | whats the command in place of ./configure which will make a deb package out of src? |
| 23:58.17 | abrotman | uh .. why? |
| 23:58.39 | Stanlin | abrotman: because, lenny kernel does not have Tuxonice |
| 23:58.57 | matt7676 | is there a way to know in which package a specific program is? I mean for example I would like to install a "top" program and I do not know it is in "procps" package. I tried with "apt-cache depends", but it does not show that. |
| 23:58.58 | abrotman | have fun! |
| 23:59.05 | abrotman | !tell matt7676 about apt-file |
| 23:59.15 | Stanlin | abrotman: plz tell me how |
| 23:59.44 | matt7676 | abrotman: thanks! |
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