| 00:00.31 | Tramp | Stanlin: /msg dpkg make-kpkg - that's how I do it on my laptop (for exactly the same reason) |
| 00:00.34 | matt7676 | one offtopic question- what does this "!tell" mean? I mean this "!" mark in front of it? |
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| 00:01.04 | abrotman | matt7676: it's a bot command |
| 00:01.21 | matt7676 | ok |
| 00:01.22 | Stanlin | tramp thank you, do i need to make, kernel image, initrd ?? |
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| 00:02.11 | Tramp | Stanlin: I don't have an initrd there, so i just make kernel_imag |
| 00:02.13 | Tramp | e |
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| 00:04.09 | Stanlin | Tramp: are you saying doing a make-kpkg , updates the initrd on /boot as well? |
| 00:04.23 | streuner__ | no |
| 00:04.43 | Tramp | Stanlin: no. As I said, I don't have an initrd |
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| 00:05.08 | Stanlin | Tramp: so how you make the new kernel to boot? |
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| 00:05.21 | Tramp | Stanlin: since when do you need an initrd to boot? |
| 00:05.43 | Stanlin | well grub is asking me for it |
| 00:05.46 | Tramp | Stanlin: well rather not you but someone in general |
| 00:06.05 | Tramp | weird grub you have |
| 00:06.30 | streuner__ | thats a conf ques |
| 00:06.44 | streuner__ | thats a conf question, not more... |
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| 00:07.27 | Tramp | Stanlin: but then, well check the further factoids. kp-mantra mentions --initrd. Never did it though, as I mentioned previously. When I need an initrd I usually hand-roll it with mkinitramfs |
| 00:08.22 | Stanlin | Tramp: ok im going to tray again to build a kernel |
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| 00:09.19 | Stanlin | i used to do this all the time... now i cant... |
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| 00:10.23 | \amethyst | k-p has changed a lot recently |
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| 00:11.50 | abrotman | \amethyst: he's using lenny |
| 00:12.04 | \amethyst | oh, nm |
| 00:12.10 | Stanlin | abrotman: sqeezy |
| 00:12.24 | abrotman | <Stanlin> abrotman: because, lenny kernel does not have Tuxonice |
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| 00:12.44 | Stanlin | abrotman: ive just moved to sqeeze and doesnt as well |
| 00:12.59 | abrotman | you make cakes? |
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| 00:13.40 | null | i make cakes |
| 00:13.50 | Stanlin | abrotman: yea, i can make grannies |
| 00:13.51 | null | right now i am making burritos |
| 00:13.55 | null | though i wishi i had cake |
| 00:14.02 | null | mmm cake |
| 00:14.06 | null | cake is not good for you though |
| 00:14.35 | Tramp | well, the right way would probably be doing something with the "linux-patch-tuxonice" - package ... |
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| 00:16.49 | Stanlin | there is no docs for compiling kernels on squeesi |
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| 00:22.07 | Stanlin | where s the zqueesi forum |
| 00:22.07 | Stanlin | ? |
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| 00:24.38 | azeem | Stanlin: what are you talking about? |
| 00:24.50 | \amethyst | 'Squeeze' |
| 00:25.21 | phobos_anomaly | Stanlin: If you mean debian squeeze, just use the docs for etch/lenny |
| 00:26.13 | \amethyst | phobos_anomaly: he's using make-kpkg, which has changed a lot |
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| 00:30.06 | ajavid | squeezy |
| 00:30.08 | ajavid | thats cute |
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| 00:31.14 | ajavid | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toy_Story_characters#Squeeze_Toy_Aliens |
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| 00:35.44 | jmoncayo | hey gusy, i have a script and i get a number from wc -l in a variable, how can i decrease this number by one? |
| 00:37.08 | \amethyst | jmoncayo: $((var - 1)) |
| 00:37.08 | null | -= |
| 00:37.19 | sepult | $-- |
| 00:37.36 | \amethyst | jmoncayo: to change it, var=$((var - 1)) or let var-- |
| 00:38.03 | \amethyst | (the former works in other shells, the latter only in bash and ksh) |
| 00:38.39 | jmoncayo | thanks a lot guys |
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| 00:43.31 | matt7676 | how does for example "dpkg -S /usr/bin/top" know, that /usr/bin/top is part of "procps" package? I mean is there a such file, where is stated, where every file on a package should be copied? |
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| 00:43.59 | abrotman | matt7676: the procps has to be installed |
| 00:44.37 | mosno | matt7676: /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 00:47.52 | Agiofws | hello |
| 00:48.10 | Agiofws | is there file or a command that shows me what daemonds and services are started up at boot ? |
| 00:48.12 | Agiofws | is it |
| 00:48.19 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.29 | Agiofws | or /etc/rc3.d ? |
| 00:49.19 | azeem_ | rc2.d, mostly |
| 00:49.23 | matt7676 | abrotman: ok, now i see. It is stated in procps.list file. So I quess, that apt-file works in a similar way, but it has to download all the packagename.list files from repository? |
| 00:50.28 | \amethyst | matt7676: there is a Contents-i386.gz file in the archive that lists all of them |
| 00:50.34 | Agiofws | is there a way to see ? |
| 00:50.43 | abrotman | matt7676: yes .. apt-file uses a file from your sources (roughly), and dpkg -S uses a local file that the padckage manager knows about |
| 00:51.22 | Stanlin | make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=custom.001 kernel_image kernel_headers |
| 00:51.25 | \amethyst | matt7676: e.g. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Contents-hppa.gz |
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| 00:51.38 | abrotman | \amethyst: oh come on .. no one uses that one :) |
| 00:52.33 | \amethyst | abrotman: I was about to ask 'do they still make them', but apparently they don't (or rather they're not selling new ones) |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | \amethyst: nope .. |
| 00:52.54 | Stanlin | is that correct? |
| 00:52.58 | Stanlin | or im an idiot? |
| 00:53.04 | abrotman | try it and see |
| 00:53.43 | Stanlin | compiling.... |
| 00:53.56 | \amethyst | Stanlin: you did patch already, right? |
| 00:54.11 | Stanlin | \amethyst: yeah, and i selected in menu makeconfig, tuxonice |
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| 00:55.15 | Stanlin | \amethyst: do i need to setup something special , im using LVM ? |
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| 00:55.27 | pacneil | Ok, I've been searching for a couple of hours about the problem I have with ldap |
| 00:55.51 | pacneil | there is a bug report that something broke when upgrading from Etch to Lenny |
| 00:56.01 | pacneil | but I can't find a place that tells how to fix it |
| 00:56.15 | pacneil | anybody have a URL, with instructions |
| 00:56.42 | Stanlin | its a mistery... |
| 00:56.45 | abrotman | did you check the upgrade docs ? |
| 00:57.21 | pacneil | which upgrade docs, the ones that broke ldap? |
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| 00:57.47 | \amethyst | # [ "hello" -lt 50 ] |
| 00:57.48 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 00:57.51 | azeem | pacneil: you didn't really say what your problem is |
| 00:57.55 | azeem | AFAICT |
| 00:58.08 | abrotman | pacneil: which bug shows your issue? |
| 00:58.23 | pacneil | I'll have to find it again |
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| 01:00.36 | matt7676 | \amethyst: I had no idea, that there is a single such a huge file |
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| 01:00.45 | pacneil | this one http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495954 |
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| 01:01.25 | pacneil | They can't even seem to agree on who's fault it is, meantime, my samba is broken because it uses ldap authentication |
| 01:01.32 | matt7676 | \amethyst: and every time some program is packaged for debian someone has to update this Contents-hppa file? |
| 01:02.31 | Sertse | someone explain uxa and exa to me, which one is better? |
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| 01:03.15 | Stanlin | compiling..... |
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| 01:15.31 | Stanlin | i have this title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26; root (hd0,0); kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.26 root=/dev/mapper/xbook-root ro quiet |
| 01:15.38 | Stanlin | no initrd, is that ok? |
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| 01:18.07 | Greed | I made a really simple script to sudo mount -a when my network is up.. it stops working randomly and it only comes back if I re-format and do it again |
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| 01:18.31 | Greed | any help would be awesome... maybe a better way? |
| 01:18.35 | azeem | Greed: re-format? |
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| 01:19.31 | Greed | azeem ive tried narrowing down what could be causing it |
| 01:20.03 | azeem | Greed: what do you mean with "re-format"Ã |
| 01:20.05 | azeem | ? |
| 01:20.23 | Agiofws | hi |
| 01:20.25 | Agiofws | 0 13 30 6 1-5 cp -R /home/telemathea/* /var/tmp would this get exetuted on 30/6/2009 at 13:00 from monday to friday ? |
| 01:20.54 | Greed | azeem I re-install? |
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| 01:21.21 | azeem | Greed: why? |
| 01:21.39 | azeem | a reinstall is almost never an appropriate solution on GNU/Linux systems |
| 01:21.52 | Greed | azeem cause I've been trying to narrow down what causes the script to stop working.... I know but I had no way to figure out if it was a conflict |
| 01:22.13 | azeem | what are you trying to do with the script? |
| 01:22.58 | Greed | I added a post-up script to run when my laptop reconnects to my network |
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| 01:23.30 | azeem | using sudoà |
| 01:23.32 | azeem | ? |
| 01:23.52 | Stanlin | It crashed, it is looking for initrd, but the compilator didnt make one |
| 01:24.01 | Greed | yep I made a post-up.sh script and only put sudo mount -a in it |
| 01:24.10 | azeem | Greed: why sudo? |
| 01:24.15 | azeem | those scripts are run as root anyway |
| 01:24.27 | Greed | ah well |
| 01:24.32 | Greed | when I try to run it it asks for it |
| 01:24.38 | azeem | for what? |
| 01:25.03 | Greed | when I do ./post-up.sh it says I need the correct permissions |
| 01:25.10 | azeem | Greed: did you run it as root? |
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| 01:26.20 | final_frontier | hi every one |
| 01:26.53 | Greed | azeem I ran it under my account |
| 01:27.43 | azeem | Greed: then that is not the same environment as when you put it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:28.30 | arriesp | bye |
| 01:28.36 | final_frontier | any lenny user who installed kde 4.2.2 without crashig his system? |
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| 01:29.38 | final_frontier | is kde 4.2.2l experimental in debian? |
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| 01:30.05 | azeem | final_frontier: see packages.debian.org |
| 01:30.34 | Greed | azeem I'm not sure what you're telling me |
| 01:30.35 | Vorbote | final_frontier: KDE 4 is in testing that's what you should use if you want to use KDE4 (and be prepared to fix the system yourself 14 times a week). |
| 01:30.43 | Stanlin | help! |
| 01:31.03 | final_frontier | Vorbote: don't remember me that xD |
| 01:31.25 | final_frontier | Vorbote: last time with 4.2.1 was awfull |
| 01:31.31 | final_frontier | Vorbote: have no sound |
| 01:31.34 | azeem | Greed: I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve still |
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| 01:31.53 | azeem | Greed: if you're trying to run a script somewhere in /etc/network/interfaces, then using sudo for that is a bad idea |
| 01:32.30 | Greed | azeem I'm trying to remount my nfs shares when my laptop starts up or resumes |
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| 01:33.10 | Greed | azeem I edited my interfaces to include post-up /home/william/.scripts/post-up.sh |
| 01:33.13 | Stanlin | does anyone has a image for kernel 2.6.29 ?? |
| 01:33.29 | azeem | Stanlin: check packages.debian.org |
| 01:34.03 | Vorbote | Stanlin: http://wiki.debian.org/Kernel |
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| 01:34.40 | Vorbote | Stanlin: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel to be precise in addition to accurate :-) |
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| 01:35.46 | final_frontier | well, i have to go |
| 01:35.49 | final_frontier | bye |
| 01:35.51 | Greed | azeem it seems like I might be going about this all wrong. Do you know of a better way? |
| 01:35.59 | azeem | not sure |
| 01:36.13 | azeem | but indeed I don't think you're doing this right |
| 01:37.41 | Greed | azeem I wonder how others remount nfs shares when they arent hard-wired cause adding it to my fstab it works great |
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| 01:42.39 | Vorbote | Greed: that's what the automounter is there for. http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs-5.html |
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| 01:45.27 | Greed | Vorbote: thanks I'll give that a read |
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| 01:46.24 | Vorbote | Greed: do notice that amd is deprecated. I think there is a new way of doing it with the in kernel client/server but I have used NFS in ages. amd works fine. |
| 01:47.42 | Greed | Vorbote: I'm just glad its possible I've been messing with this script for a couple days.. thanks |
| 01:48.41 | Vorbote | Greed: As amd is originally a BSD Unix thingy, you will find more documentation in the FreeBSD handbook (but configuration systax is different). |
| 01:48.51 | Vorbote | s/systax/syntax |
| 01:50.15 | Vorbote | Greed: for the Linux userspace read |
| 01:50.37 | Vorbote | the file /usr/share/doc/nfs-common/README.Debian.nfsv4 and otehr docs in that directory |
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| 01:51.14 | Vorbote | the man pages you'll find by doing a "dpkg -L nfs-common" |
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| 01:52.28 | Vorbote | particularly important are statd and idmapd |
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| 01:56.19 | Manoj | http://paste.debian.net/35161/ |
| 01:56.29 | Manoj | the -n is the dry-run option |
| 01:56.56 | Manoj | this script essentially makes a cross-compile toolchain, in this case for arm-elf |
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| 02:03.36 | Stanlin | This is a Fiasco!! |
| 02:04.01 | Stanlin | ive followed step by step the instructions how to build the kernel, but doesnt even boot!! |
| 02:04.12 | aryah_ | hi! Im trying out a little psx emulation, with pcsx-df. I think I made it through some initial steps. Google is not particularly helpfull with the error Im getting however; DFInput error: could not open device /dev/input/js0! This dev indeed does not exist. But where do I configure this, how do I create this joypad emulator? |
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| 02:05.18 | amitz | say I have a Release.gpg file. How to manually make apt-get update use the Release.gpg I have in my local? |
| 02:06.00 | abrotman | aryah_: you want to create a fake joystick ? |
| 02:06.06 | abrotman | or you have one that doesn't work? |
| 02:06.15 | aryah_ | I have none, Id use keyboard |
| 02:08.03 | Vorbote | Stanlin: you are easily dissapointed. If it doesn't work the first time, try again. That's called hacking in the language of the ancients. |
| 02:08.18 | Vorbote | s/disapointed/discouraged/ |
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| 02:09.13 | aryah_ | as I understood it , using keyboard instead of an actual joypad is what the default behavior of that psx emulator should be. extra effort (plugins..) if one wishes to use the actual thing.. |
| 02:09.49 | abrotman | it probably shouldn't be dying if the keyboard can be used |
| 02:11.09 | Stanlin | Vorbote: ive been compiling kernels all day, like 150 kernels, nothing works, its a fiasco |
| 02:12.30 | Manoj | Stanlin: well, more details might help us help you |
| 02:13.01 | Manoj | Stanlin: what exactly is failong? what is the error message? |
| 02:13.01 | Vorbote | Stanlin: use oldconfig as template and keep the output of lsmod for what you can't disable. |
| 02:13.04 | aryah_ | abrotman, it doesnt crash with that message. Im not sure if it freezes or it works fine, but as the message says, theres no input device so I cant do anything.. |
| 02:13.34 | abrotman | it doesn't say that it doesn't have input .. just that it can't find js9 |
| 02:13.35 | abrotman | js0 |
| 02:13.54 | Stanlin | Manoj: ive compiled 2.6.26 exactly, i literraly, exacly as this guide http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=36525&hilit=compile and doesnt work, boot, kernel panics |
| 02:13.55 | aryah_ | hm, true. |
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| 02:14.09 | AussieGuy | what can I safely open a 3GB text file in? |
| 02:14.15 | AussieGuy | vim doesnt seem to like it |
| 02:14.28 | Vorbote | Stanlin: You need to know your hardware if you want to trim down the resulting installed kernel image plus modules, else just intall a kernel from buildserver (the address in in one of the wiki pages I mentioned and linked from the other :-)) |
| 02:14.29 | Stanlin | Vorbote: where is that oldconfig , is that oldconfig the config that comes with lenny? |
| 02:15.13 | Vorbote | Stanlin: Yes. |
| 02:15.25 | Stanlin | Vorbote: where is it? |
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| 02:16.07 | abrotman | AussieGuy: why would you? |
| 02:16.12 | Manoj | Stanlin: Hmm. I have never tried compiling an official kernel source image and not use their preferred way of building |
| 02:16.21 | Vorbote | But I think you haven't read about how to compile a kernel yet. Following some recipe? (How-to Forge or 1001 one ways to screw yourself up?) |
| 02:16.28 | AussieGuy | I want to extract data from it and put it into a report |
| 02:16.31 | Manoj | Stanlin: you know that the kernel team does not use make-kpkg, but have their own build mechanism |
| 02:16.34 | ajavid | Need to get 547MB/547MB of archives. After unpacking 1361MB will be used. |
| 02:16.53 | enouf | Stanlin: with LVM and grub1, you need /boot on it's own non-LVM partition and an initrd |
| 02:16.56 | AussieGuy | its an apache access log which was 24G, but I extracted the stuff I wanted to make it 2G |
| 02:17.00 | Noble | Having problem installing wordpress. Apache seems to be blocking it, getting not found erros. apache2.conf = http://pastebin.com/m5248f103 |
| 02:17.30 | ajavid | man sid is going crazy lately |
| 02:17.33 | Manoj | Stanlin: you might be better off eithe sticking to the kernel team's recommendation, or downloading a vanilla kernel from kernel.org and using make-kpkg |
| 02:17.37 | ajavid | (kde4 that is) |
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| 02:17.53 | Stanlin | enouf: mhhh, well i setup LVM when isntalling squeezey, now i make a new kernel, and wont boot, kernel panics |
| 02:18.00 | Vorbote | Stanlin: familiarize yourself with the make options of the kernel's build makefiles. Those are very different to make-kpkg |
| 02:18.03 | abrotman | AussieGuy: extract it how? |
| 02:18.19 | AussieGuy | probably using php somehow |
| 02:18.23 | ajavid | Stanlin, it is called "Squeeze" |
| 02:18.23 | AussieGuy | still figuring that part out |
| 02:18.26 | Vorbote | Stanlin: a "make help" will get you in the right track. |
| 02:18.31 | ajavid | not squeezey |
| 02:18.54 | AussieGuy | Im going to correlate the IP addresses to other information in a database |
| 02:19.08 | AussieGuy | so id do work like removing duplicate IP's etc |
| 02:19.08 | Stanlin | where to get he old config of squese? |
| 02:19.10 | Manoj | Vorbote: yeah, but one does not usually need to interact much with the kernel makefile beyond make menuconfig |
| 02:19.14 | abrotman | okay .. i don't see what vi has to do with it? use cat/less/more/tac ? |
| 02:19.33 | Manoj | make menuconfig, make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_iamge |
| 02:19.36 | Stanlin | i would like to base the new kernel, on the old configuration of the current kernel? |
| 02:19.46 | Manoj | throw in an --initrd only if youhave to |
| 02:20.00 | Manoj | Stanlin: good idea |
| 02:20.12 | Manoj | zcat /proc/config.gz > .config |
| 02:20.15 | Stanlin | Manoj: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=36525&hilit=compile << i did exactly what you said, Does not work |
| 02:20.16 | enouf | make oldconfig |
| 02:20.31 | Stanlin | Manoj: oki... let me try |
| 02:21.01 | Stanlin | Manoj: there is no file like, config.gz |
| 02:21.07 | enouf | Manoj: debian kernels don't store the config in /proc/ like that - it's in /boot/config-2.6.xxxx |
| 02:21.08 | Manoj | Stanlin: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.26 <<--- mixing up kernel-package and official kernel sources might be an issue |
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| 02:21.22 | Manoj | enouf: silly them |
| 02:21.32 | enouf | (yes, i know it's a kernel config option) |
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| 02:21.49 | enouf | Manoj: well, if anyone should know that, it's you :-P |
| 02:22.05 | Manoj | Stanlin: all right. Look for /.boot/config-$(uname -r).gz |
| 02:22.19 | enouf | not .gz |
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| 02:22.35 | Manoj | enouf: yeah, but I genrally never mount /boot until I am ready to install, so /proc/config.gz is faster |
| 02:22.50 | Manoj | damn. |
| 02:22.55 | Manoj | mounts /boot |
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| 02:23.25 | aryah_ | abrotman, thx, that hinted a possible sollution - i believe setting its 'gamepad' to /dev/stdin explicitly got rid of the error (and someone reports such sollution working on some ubuntu thread).. It still freezes :( , but theres plenty of possible causes... |
| 02:23.32 | enouf | cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) /path/to/src/.config ; ... ; make oldconfig |
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| 02:23.52 | Stanlin | enouf: thank you found it bro, going to try to compile again this piece of ... |
| 02:23.52 | Manoj | Stanlin: what enouf said |
| 02:24.14 | enouf | he also needs a non-LVM /boot partition if using LVM and grub1 |
| 02:24.54 | Manoj | isn't there a different compile the kernel the debian way guide out there? |
| 02:25.09 | Stanlin | enouf: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System ; /dev/sda1 * 1 31 248976 83 Linux ; /dev/sda2 32 38913 312319665 8e Linux LVM |
| 02:25.10 | enouf | grub2 has implementations where it's not required anymore ... but you'd have to learn grub2 ;-) |
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| 02:25.57 | enouf | sure ; wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel ? |
| 02:26.00 | n-iCe | any zoom application for debian? |
| 02:26.06 | enouf | !trunk kernel |
| 02:26.07 | dpkg | Visit http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel for information on installing the kernel team's latest experimental kernels. Also visit #debian-kernel on irc.debian.org for more information on these kernels. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or ask me about <kernel package>. Remember these packages are previews and work in progress. Handle with care. |
| 02:26.17 | abrotman | n-iCe: yes |
| 02:26.17 | enouf | 2nd URL ? |
| 02:26.43 | Stanlin | oh i need a drink |
| 02:26.52 | Stanlin | ok installing grub2 |
| 02:26.56 | Stanlin | recompiling... |
| 02:27.04 | Stanlin | burns ubuntu just in case |
| 02:27.08 | jhanssen | guys why the "make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" is not working, I mean, it doesn't create any initrd and I can't boot on my new kernel 2.6.26 due to a kernel panic VSF issue |
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| 02:27.29 | Stanlin | YOU SEEE!!! same problem here, like jhanssen |
| 02:27.37 | enouf | it's generated upon installation of the .deb jhanssen |
| 02:27.54 | Stanlin | enouf: where is that init .deb located? |
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| 02:27.57 | jhanssen | k .. but it isn't gerating that... |
| 02:28.07 | jhanssen | normally on /boot |
| 02:28.10 | enouf | and your command looks light/weak jhanssen |
| 02:28.29 | jhanssen | why ? what should be a better command ? |
| 02:28.31 | enouf | Stanlin: parent dir/ if you used make-kpkg |
| 02:28.37 | Stanlin | enouf: i did this : make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=custom.001 kernel_image kernel_headers <<< and doesnt create any initrd.deb |
| 02:28.55 | enouf | no - there's no initrd.deb |
| 02:29.04 | Stanlin | enouf: the only thing i have is image, headers, no initrd |
| 02:29.16 | enouf | there's one linux-image-2.6-custom.001.deb |
| 02:29.30 | Stanlin | enouf: yes, i installed |
| 02:29.31 | Vorbote | The inird is created at installation time |
| 02:29.49 | enouf | and also Stanlin with yours, perhaps a separate one (headers) |
| 02:29.50 | Stanlin | enouf: but no initrd is showing up in /boot |
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| 02:30.00 | enouf | i told you why Stanlin |
| 02:30.24 | jhanssen | how should that be ? ? no - there's no initrd.deb |
| 02:30.28 | jhanssen | enouf, |
| 02:30.28 | Manoj | Stanlin: why did you not say your problem was the initrd? |
| 02:30.39 | Stanlin | enouf: but the boot is outside the lvm |
| 02:30.49 | Manoj | jhanssen: read: /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz |
| 02:31.28 | Manoj | jhanssen: You need to create scripts in /etc/kernel; and kernel-package now comes with example scripts to drop in there |
| 02:31.29 | Stanlin | enouf: /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) |
| 02:31.47 | Stanlin | enouf: /dev/sda1 * 1 31 248976 83 Linux |
| 02:31.58 | enouf | <Stanlin> enouf: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System ; /dev/sda1 * 1 31 248976 83 Linux ; /dev/sda2 32 38913 312319665 8e Linux LVM <-- then wtf is that? |
| 02:31.59 | Manoj | jhanssen: the initrd is created on isntallation by scripts in /etc/kernel/postinst.d |
| 02:32.26 | Stanlin | enouf: part a) /dev/sda1 * 1 31 248976 83 Linux |
| 02:32.27 | Manoj | jhanssen: however, /etc/kenrel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools does not yet work |
| 02:32.43 | enouf | i see no 83 there |
| 02:32.47 | Stanlin | enouf: b) a separate /dev/sda2 32 38913 312319665 8e Linux LVM |
| 02:33.00 | Stanlin | enouf: boot is on sda1, not in sda2 |
| 02:33.03 | enouf | so stop pasting crap into the channel |
| 02:33.16 | enouf | and use a friggin pastebin with correct format |
| 02:33.22 | alexbariv | hi! how can i install webkit in debian lenny ? |
| 02:33.24 | n-iCe | abrotman: like? |
| 02:33.25 | Manoj | jhanssen: look into /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/post{inst,rm}.d/ |
| 02:33.57 | Stanlin | enouf: therefore, where is initrd ? |
| 02:34.08 | abrotman | n-iCe: apt-cache search screen zoom ? |
| 02:34.38 | jhanssen | Manoj, mkinitramfs-kpkg -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26 2.6.26.15 |
| 02:34.39 | n-iCe | abrotman: do you personally know any? |
| 02:34.44 | jhanssen | i did this .. ok |
| 02:34.46 | abrotman | n-iCe: apt-cache search screen zoom ? |
| 02:35.03 | jhanssen | then I got Deprecation WARNING: use update-initramfs(8) |
| 02:35.04 | jhanssen | Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.26.15 |
| 02:35.17 | jhanssen | k got a "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-05-03 23:34 initrd.img-2.6.26" |
| 02:35.20 | jhanssen | 000 |
| 02:35.28 | enouf | Manoj: jhanssen and Stanlin there are other files too - that matter ; /etc/kernel-img.conf and see ~$ rgrep INITRD /etc/default |
| 02:35.43 | Manoj | jhanssen: this is why thenew kernel-package stopped installing initrds |
| 02:35.49 | jhanssen | make-kpkg must not do that to us ? |
| 02:35.52 | n-iCe | Hello, anyone knows any zoom software? for Debian? |
| 02:36.03 | Stanlin | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m5cd47fd << everything is correct |
| 02:36.14 | Manoj | jhanssen: so, make-kpkg now lets the user selct the scripts they install |
| 02:36.35 | Manoj | jhanssen: which version of kernel-package are you using? |
| 02:36.40 | jhanssen | 1 min |
| 02:36.58 | enouf | Stanlin: i've not used the latest make-kpkg version , but the maintainer is involved in this conversation ... so i'll concede |
| 02:37.26 | Manoj | Stanlin: I am not sure I understand what exactly your problem is |
| 02:37.36 | enouf | All i can tell you is what i've used and done over the past year or so ... |
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| 02:38.01 | Manoj | enouf: You obviously nee dto use the 12.013 version :P |
| 02:38.16 | enouf | Manoj: he's claiming no initrd is created upon installation of his .deb from make-kpkg .. i guess |
| 02:38.33 | enouf | Manoj: yup - next time i compile ;-) |
| 02:38.37 | jhanssen | Package: kernel-package |
| 02:38.38 | jhanssen | State: installed |
| 02:38.38 | jhanssen | Automatically installed: no |
| 02:38.38 | jhanssen | Version: 12.009 |
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| 02:38.42 | Stanlin | Manoj: i compiled according this, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=36525&hilit=compile , no initrd is created, just image and headers, after install, the computer doesnt boot (kernel panic) |
| 02:38.43 | Manoj | Stanlin: in that case, that is expected behaviour until you install something in /etc/kernel |
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| 02:39.30 | Manoj | Stanlin: what version of kernel-package are _you_ using? |
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| 02:39.37 | Stanlin | Manoj: 2.6.26 |
| 02:39.38 | jhanssen | sorry guys |
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| 02:39.52 | Manoj | jhanssen: ok. the documentation improved a bit in the versions in sid |
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| 02:40.01 | enouf | Stanlin: wrong pkg |
| 02:40.02 | Manoj | Stanlin: kernel-package version? |
| 02:40.22 | jhanssen | mine, Version: 12.009 |
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| 02:40.33 | Manoj | jhanssen: let me see if I can put the latest README file out there for you |
| 02:40.36 | Stanlin | enouf: Manoj linux-source-2.6.26 |
| 02:40.40 | jhanssen | thanks |
| 02:40.59 | enouf | Stanlin: dpkg -l kernel-package | tail -n1 |
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| 02:41.13 | enouf | Stanlin: er dpkg -l kernel-package | tail -1 |
| 02:41.18 | enouf | or -n 1 |
| 02:41.23 | jhanssen | K anyway, looks like the initrd should be only to mount the cramfs on debian boot correct Manoj ? |
| 02:41.24 | Manoj | jhanssen: try reading http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/README.txt |
| 02:41.39 | Manoj | jhanssen: correct, but irrelevant |
| 02:41.40 | Stanlin | enouf: ii kernel-package 12.009 |
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| 02:41.57 | Manoj | Stanlin: so, you too can read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/README.txt |
| 02:42.02 | jhanssen | sure, I selected that as built in on my kernel config |
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| 02:42.46 | Manoj | jhanssen: ok, but I do not think that is relevant ot your problem |
| 02:42.56 | meder | can someone point me out to a guide that covers ssh keys for a complete noob - this is confusing. |
| 02:43.03 | abrotman | !ssh keys |
| 02:43.03 | dpkg | i guess ssh keys is http://www.puddingonline.com/~dave/publications/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/ |
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| 02:43.16 | jhanssen | What I did, copied my last .config from 2.6.25 and tried to execute the make-kpkg --initrd, so why am I getting the Kernel Panic about not correct root mount place ? |
| 02:43.17 | Manoj | jhanssen: your problem is that nothig is creating /boot/initrd* files |
| 02:43.21 | jhanssen | the VSF error |
| 02:43.30 | jhanssen | k |
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| 02:43.37 | n-iCe | anyone knows about this error? http://asdasdasd.pastebin.com/m585ce385 |
| 02:43.39 | Stanlin | enouf: i think its a huge bug |
| 02:43.44 | Manoj | jhanssen: look into /boot. Do you see an initrd file for your kernel there? |
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| 02:44.15 | jhanssen | on to the older one .. 2.6.25 probably because of nvidia module, not sure about that |
| 02:44.19 | abrotman | n-iCe: try pasting your error again |
| 02:44.28 | Manoj | jhanssen: the panic is because there is no initrd; and there is no initrd because nothing called the initrd generator |
| 02:44.44 | Manoj | jhanssen: I do not think you are listening to me |
| 02:45.02 | Stanlin | its a bug |
| 02:45.07 | enouf | read! |
| 02:45.14 | Manoj | Stanlin: I do not think so |
| 02:45.15 | jhanssen | k .. so the file /etc/kernel-img.conf must has some line regarding the init options right ? |
| 02:45.17 | enouf | you're a bug |
| 02:45.22 | TheCoffeMaker | Hi guys! ... just a simple question ... I'm setting up a PowerEdge SC1435, it has two NICs, and I need to be sure that each one will be detected in the same order allways ... In LILO you need to append the NIC's IRQ to the interface name ... but ... how can I do it in Grub? |
| 02:45.26 | Manoj | Stanlin: the problem is user error: not reading the documentation |
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| 02:45.39 | n-iCe | http://asdasdasd.pastebin.com/m4ef081e1 |
| 02:45.43 | n-iCe | that's the error, sorry. |
| 02:46.04 | Stanlin | Manoj: this is straight forward, its a CLEAN lenny install, get sources, compile, and install, reboot, |
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| 02:46.34 | enouf | TheCoffeMaker: i think you want to refer to /msg dpkg 70 |
| 02:46.38 | Manoj | Stanlin: and you are missing a step |
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| 02:46.59 | Manoj | Stanlin: if itis lenny, you can't have kernel-package 12.009 |
| 02:47.08 | Manoj | Stanlin: 12.009 is in Squeeze. |
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| 02:47.37 | Stanlin | Manoj: i have reproduced this bug in lenny, and squeeze |
| 02:47.38 | Manoj | Lenny had kernel-package 11.017, or something |
| 02:47.47 | Manoj | there is no bug |
| 02:47.58 | enouf | judd versions kernel-package |
| 02:47.59 | judd | enouf: kernel-package -- etch: 10.067 sid: 11.012 lenny: 11.015 sid: 11.017 squeeze: 12.009 sid: 12.013 |
| 02:47.59 | Manoj | there is failure to read, sure |
| 02:48.40 | Stanlin | Manoj:where exactly ?? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=36525&hilit=compile ? |
| 02:48.46 | enouf | Manoj: don't mind the dual-sid-entry-hiccups from judd :-) |
| 02:48.57 | Manoj | Stanlin: that forums posting mght be crap. |
| 02:49.11 | TheCoffeMaker | enouf, didn't got you ... sorry |
| 02:49.27 | Manoj | Stanlin: you are missing the step of configuring /etc/kernel before isntalling the image debs |
| 02:49.35 | enouf | !+tell TheCoffeMaker -about 70 |
| 02:49.36 | dpkg | told TheCoffeMaker about 70. |
| 02:49.45 | Stanlin | Manoj: what is that command? |
| 02:49.59 | jhanssen | Manoj, make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image |
| 02:49.59 | jhanssen | ... That should be the right command line then |
| 02:50.09 | Manoj | Stanlin: so, until you configure /etc/kernel, you will have no symlinks, and you will not get an initrd generated |
| 02:50.11 | TheCoffeMaker | thanks! |
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| 02:50.20 | Manoj | jhanssen: that is good, but not enough |
| 02:50.25 | Stanlin | Manoj: ok got yoru point, now please show me that hiddencommand? |
| 02:50.43 | Stanlin | Manoj: because i cannot find that command you mention nowhere |
| 02:50.44 | Manoj | jhanssen: that will tell the initrd generation hook scripot stuff; but by itself it does not generate an initrd |
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| 02:51.24 | Stanlin | Manoj: and the command is? |
| 02:51.24 | Manoj | Stanlin, jhanssen: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/README.txt |
| 02:51.39 | Stanlin | Manoj: so you dont know |
| 02:51.48 | Stanlin | lol... and point us to nowhere |
| 02:51.50 | enouf | ... |
| 02:51.51 | Manoj | Stanlin: you need to drop scripts into /etc/kernel/post{inst,rm}.d/ directories |
| 02:52.15 | jhanssen | Yeah reading .. thanks Man_of_Wax |
| 02:52.17 | jhanssen | Manoj, |
| 02:52.32 | Stanlin | Manoj: the contents of my /etc/kernel are: header_postinst.d header_preinst.d postinst.d preinst.d header_postrm.d header_prerm.d postrm.d prerm.d |
| 02:52.33 | Manoj | Stanlin: seems like a valid link to me |
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| 02:52.41 | jhanssen | Manoj, just a question do you work with Websphere MQ ? |
| 02:52.49 | Manoj | jhanssen: nope |
| 02:52.52 | jhanssen | thx |
| 02:53.03 | Manoj | Stanlin: you need to drop scripts into /etc/kernel/post{inst,rm}.d/ directories |
| 02:53.39 | Stanlin | Manoj: hello....the scripts are there |
| 02:54.55 | Manoj | Stanlin: hello -- those are dirs -- hot scripts |
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| 02:55.13 | Manoj | try doing an ls -asCF there |
| 02:55.14 | Stanlin | Manoj: obviously... inside them are the scripts |
| 02:55.22 | Manoj | Which ones? |
| 02:55.36 | Stanlin | initramtools |
| 02:55.36 | enouf | !pastebin |
| 02:55.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 02:55.38 | n-iCe | abrotman: nothing? |
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| 02:56.03 | Manoj | initramfs-tools scripts do not work yet (they are only for official kernels) |
| 02:56.43 | Manoj | as per the READDME, the proper scripts are called initramfs |
| 02:57.13 | abrotman | n-iCe: about what? |
| 02:57.14 | Manoj | http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/manoj-etc-kernel.tar.bz2 are what I have in my /etc/kernel |
| 02:57.18 | n-iCe | abrotman: the error... |
| 02:57.20 | n-iCe | http://asdasdasd.pastebin.com/m4ef081e1 |
| 02:57.29 | jhanssen | Manoj, yeah looks like it's already there /etc/kernel/postinst.d# more initramfs-tools |
| 02:57.43 | Manoj | jhanssen: that script will not work |
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| 02:57.53 | abrotman | n-iCe: i use eog .. never seen that before |
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| 02:58.02 | abrotman | n-iCe: but eog is an image viewer |
| 02:58.05 | Manoj | jhanssen: that script only works with official kernel images |
| 02:58.12 | Stanlin | ok finished another compilation... rebooting |
| 02:58.26 | jhanssen | K .. so what should I do to Debian's kernels ? |
| 02:58.37 | n-iCe | abrotman: it happens with a lot of packacges |
| 02:58.51 | Manoj | jhanssen: did you read the README I showed you?It has explicit commands to run |
| 02:58.59 | jhanssen | Yes |
| 02:59.04 | abrotman | n-iCe: seems like a dbus or gconf issue |
| 02:59.21 | Manoj | so? did you cp the things it said to copy into /etc/kernel/postinst.d ? |
| 02:59.46 | n-iCe | abrotman: yes |
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| 03:00.02 | jhanssen | Phase TWO: Create a portable kernel image .deb file |
| 03:00.10 | jhanssen | % $Get_Root make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image |
| 03:00.10 | jhanssen | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.29 | Manoj | and next para? |
| 03:01.08 | Manoj | Look for Note that you will have to arrange for the actual ... |
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| 03:01.54 | Manoj | jhanssen: you can even try searching for /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ |
| 03:02.55 | Manoj | enouf: my hats off to you, for sticking i this channel all the time |
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| 03:04.08 | Gnu_Raiz | Anyone have problems with wpa_supplicant I have a wireless intel mini pci card that works great, but for some reason it doesn't work under debian. |
| 03:04.49 | Gnu_Raiz | tried the latest firmware, and does not connect to my AP cannot get a dhcp release. |
| 03:04.54 | jhanssen | K Manoj so the deal is to copy /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs file to /etc/kernel right ? I am getting yours /etc/kernel now |
| 03:05.27 | Gnu_Raiz | even tried an open AP, but still cannot get a dhcp release from any AP, any suggestions. |
| 03:06.05 | Manoj | jhanssen: if you happen to like those files. You can substitute your own versions, if you prefer |
| 03:06.20 | jhanssen | Yeah .. seeing that now.. |
| 03:06.22 | Gnu_Raiz | Works every time under Windows, but not under Opensolaris, or Gentoo, or Debian. Weird! |
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| 03:06.58 | Manoj | Gnu_Raiz: I uninstalled wicd, wifi-radar, and any such packages. Went back to wpa_gui, and managed to get it working most of the time (touch wood) |
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| 03:07.24 | enouf | Manoj: it's a rough job, but someone's gotta do it :-) (oh - and the judd (the bot) reference to hiccuping was it showed 2 separate sid versions, one is incorrect obviously - some minor bot issue) |
| 03:07.49 | jhanssen | will do like that... Hey Manoj thanks a lot .. you're a really good maintainer, good job.. thank you |
| 03:07.55 | Gnu_Raiz | This was a fresh install, so had a limited amount of packages installed. |
| 03:08.21 | Gnu_Raiz | all this was done on the command line using ifconfig, and the interfaces file. |
| 03:08.29 | jhanssen | just a little correction /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/ on your documentation it's /usr/share/kerne-package |
| 03:08.51 | enouf | Manoj: and .. there are many others here, whom also put in a great deal of effort and help ... i'm not in that category .. and my hats off to them ;-) |
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| 03:11.11 | Manoj | Gnu_Raiz: well, here is my relevant bits from /etc/network/interfaces -- http://paste.debian.net/35163/ |
| 03:11.25 | Manoj | Gnu_Raiz: it seems to kinda work with that. |
| 03:11.40 | Gnu_Raiz | thanks. |
| 03:12.13 | Manoj | Gnu_Raiz: I use guessnet, because I am scared to remove it now |
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| 03:13.10 | Manoj | That is lines 9-11 and 15-36 |
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| 03:13.44 | Manoj | jhanssen: thanks for the correction, I'll update the docs |
| 03:13.52 | Gnu_Raiz | That is on way to avoid dhcp,I did not try a static ip, but might be worth it. |
| 03:14.21 | Gnu_Raiz | I will save it for reference. |
| 03:14.38 | Manoj | the guessnet docs were great, the implementation is iffy |
| 03:14.51 | Manoj | anyway. Off to watch some tv for now |
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| 03:15.21 | TongueOfColicab | Hi i just tried a lot of ways to install lenny on my pc without success |
| 03:15.27 | enouf | Manoj: thanks for your information tonight |
| 03:15.30 | TongueOfColicab | DVD iso, CD iso |
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| 03:15.49 | TongueOfColicab | modified iso for newer SATA and Ethernet devices |
| 03:16.08 | TongueOfColicab | im starting to believe i wont get it |
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| 03:17.04 | Gnu_Raiz | I was wondering if it was how I setup my AP, I use plain wpa phass phrase with AES instead of Tkip. |
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| 03:17.43 | TongueOfColicab | anyone here has installed lenny successfuly from an ISO file? |
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| 03:18.56 | Gnu_Raiz | I might go to wpa2, but for some reason I thought my wii, was not wpa2 compatible, I found out it was, but did not want to change all my other wifi comps. |
| 03:18.58 | christefano | should /etc/mailname be the same as /etc/hostname ? |
| 03:19.03 | jhanssen | hey guys another question are you aware of any bug between the detection of a modem 3G device on kernel 2.6.25 ? |
| 03:19.35 | jhanssen | like mine was not creating the /dev/ttyUSB* |
| 03:19.50 | Gnu_Raiz | I pretty much know if I went with wep, all would work out of the box even on Opensolaris and am half tempted to just go that route. |
| 03:20.05 | jhanssen | but was recognizing the device on lsusb |
| 03:20.25 | Gnu_Raiz | In my neighborhood we have a few open AP's as it is. |
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| 03:28.46 | Brain-Dance | !whois Brain-Dance |
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| 03:30.06 | www_Kernel_sh | smc for debian , it's game |
| 03:30.34 | www_Kernel_sh | youre installed ? |
| 03:30.57 | www_Kernel_sh | i need to help |
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| 03:32.48 | vimpulse | www_Kernel_sh: you must go to irc.oftc.net #debian-zh |
| 03:33.00 | vimpulse | www_Kernel_sh: you cannot enter the #debian-zh here on freenode because it is closed. |
| 03:33.32 | vimpulse | www_Kernel_sh: i made a mistake when I told you the server address in #secretmaryo. Sorry. It is actually on irc.oftc.net |
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| 03:34.20 | yuka_ | iwconfig doesn't show ath0 interface anymore. any ideas? |
| 03:35.14 | vimpulse | www_Kernel_sh: let's not talk in /msg -- let's talk here instead. |
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| 03:36.40 | www_Kernel_sh | yuka-- Your network interface card has not been loaded |
| 03:37.29 | jhanssen | Manoj, quick doubt: |
| 03:37.35 | jhanssen | Root device is (3, 3) |
| 03:37.36 | jhanssen | Setup is 11372 bytes (padded to 11776 bytes). |
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| 03:39.36 | mad_muppet | Im trying to add a background to fluxbox using session.screen0.rootCommand: Esetroot /path to image in my .fluxbox/init file but its not working .. where would I go to get some advice to get this working? |
| 03:40.24 | yuka_ | how do i load my network interface card? |
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| 03:41.15 | vimpulse | yuka_: I am not sure if what www_Kernel_sh said is correct. I do know that his/her English is pretty bad -- see what he/she said about smc half a screen before. |
| 03:41.31 | vimpulse | allisterb: is what www_Kernel_sh said to yuka_ correct? |
| 03:41.35 | vimpulse | *all: is what www_Kernel_sh said to yuka_ correct? |
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| 03:44.32 | yuka_ | vimpulse: ok, any clue about this problem? |
| 03:44.54 | vimpulse | yuka_: sorry, I don't use wireless in Linux, no clue |
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| 03:45.21 | enouf | yuka_: ls /sys/class/net |
| 03:45.58 | enouf | yuka_: which NIC? lspci -nn (just show me the wifi card) |
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| 03:46.15 | yuka_ | enouf: eh0 lo wlan0 wmaster0 |
| 03:46.30 | enouf | no ath0 then :-) |
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| 03:47.12 | jon- | what could be possible reasons for cron not executing users crontabs? i have been trying with * * * * * /bin/date >> /tmp/cron_test |
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| 03:47.34 | yuka_ | enouf: where did it disapear? |
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| 03:53.40 | enouf | yuka_: where's your lspci -nn output? and what did you change? |
| 03:53.48 | Tramp | jon-: you checked that cron is running? |
| 03:54.02 | enouf | pgrep crond |
| 03:54.29 | jon- | Tramp: yes it is |
| 03:54.32 | Tramp | crond? |
| 03:54.35 | enouf | ooops pgrep cron |
| 03:54.37 | jon- | and there is neither a /etc/cron.allow nor cron.deny |
| 03:55.05 | jon- | mh its /usr/bin/cron |
| 03:55.15 | Tramp | jon-: crontab -u <user> -l <--can you pastebin the relevant line |
| 03:55.27 | Tramp | or just paste, it's a line |
| 03:55.42 | yuka_ | enouf: i'll try connectin my machine to wired connection and come back with lspci output. |
| 03:55.44 | jon- | i included an example above |
| 03:55.49 | yuka_ | enouf: thanks |
| 03:55.58 | Tramp | jon-: please run the command and show me the line |
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| 03:56.39 | jon- | * * * * * /bin/date >> /tmp/cron_test |
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| 03:57.34 | anoHito | in debian, there is a log file in /var/log/exim/mainlog, how do i set the path to /dev/null ? |
| 03:57.46 | Tramp | jon-: now check in /etc/rsyslog.conf if you have cron logging activated. If yes, check cron.log. If not, enable it |
| 03:57.47 | anoHito | in exim.conf i do not find it |
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| 04:00.56 | jon- | Tramp: ok i uncommented cron.* and restarted sysklogd |
| 04:01.03 | jon- | i'll see if theres anything in the logs |
| 04:01.19 | Tramp | jon-: what version of debian is that? |
| 04:01.22 | jon- | thanks for helping out btw :) |
| 04:01.23 | jon- | lenny |
| 04:01.25 | jon- | stable |
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| 04:01.28 | anoHito | however i found this in /etc/syslog |
| 04:01.37 | anoHito | mail.* -/var/log/mail.log |
| 04:01.51 | Tramp | jon-: huh? ah - was that an upgrade from etch? |
| 04:02.12 | jon- | Tramp: no it wasnt |
| 04:03.00 | Tramp | jon-: then I don't understand why you have sysklogd. |
| 04:03.21 | jon- | mhhh what should it be instead |
| 04:03.27 | Tramp | rsyslog |
| 04:03.31 | jon- | i'm pretty sure it was a fresh install |
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| 04:03.46 | Stanlin | It works!!! |
| 04:03.54 | Stanlin | Hibernation works!!! |
| 04:04.23 | Tramp | jon-: what does "dpkg -S /etc/init.d/sysklogd" show you? |
| 04:05.12 | Stanlin | wohooo |
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| 04:05.35 | jon- | Tramp: sysklogd: /etc/init.d/sysklogd |
| 04:05.42 | jon- | Stanlin: congrats ;) |
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| 04:06.32 | Tramp | !prize Stanlin |
| 04:06.33 | dpkg | gives Stanlin a medal. |
| 04:06.45 | Stanlin | thanks, Ubuntu rocks! |
| 04:08.33 | Tramp | jon-: weird. And which version is that please? (from dpkg -l sysklogd)? |
| 04:08.59 | jon- | its 1.5-5 |
| 04:09.16 | Tramp | Stanlin: If you run ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu |
| 04:09.50 | Tramp | jon-: ok, that's the right version. But by default lenny would install rsyslog. Well. shouldn't matter. |
| 04:09.52 | jon- | logging for cron works now, there are a few entries from scripts at /etc/cron.d that are being run without problems.. but nothing about my users crontab (which of course still doesnt get executed) |
| 04:10.32 | dondelelcaro | jon-: what does crontab -l; output for your user? did you check /var/log/auth.log? |
| 04:11.08 | jon- | dondelelcaro: crontab -l correctly lists the task, i'm going to check auth.log |
| 04:11.57 | jon- | sadly it also reveals nothing.. |
| 04:12.28 | Stanlin | im debian uer |
| 04:12.42 | dondelelcaro | jon-: then it's not being run. what does ls -ld /var/spool/cron/crontabs; ls -l /var/spool/cron/crontabs; output? |
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| 04:13.24 | dondelelcaro | (if it was working, you'd see lines line May 3 21:10:01 volo CRON[4952]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user foo by (uid=0)) |
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| 04:16.30 | jon- | dondelelcaro: yeah sorry, there are such entries in the authlog, as stuff placed in /etc/cron.d or /etc/dron.daily gets executed just fine |
| 04:16.49 | jon- | i see my users crontabfile in spool/cron/crontabs and it has the expected contents |
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| 04:19.21 | jon- | dondelelcaro: this is the complete output |
| 04:19.21 | jon- | drwx-wx--T 2 root crontab 4096 2009-05-04 05:45 /var/spool/cron/crontabs |
| 04:19.21 | jon- | total 8 |
| 04:19.21 | jon- | -rw------- 1 jon crontab 238 2009-05-04 05:45 jon |
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| 04:19.51 | jon- | sry |
| 04:21.16 | yuka_ | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m5810636e this is the output of lspci -nn |
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| 04:23.30 | enouf | yuka_: what have you changed recently in or to your system? |
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| 04:27.18 | enouf | 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC [168c:001a] (rev 01) tells me you should follow this http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k |
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| 04:28.14 | jon- | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 04:28.52 | jon- | if anyone runs into the same problem (crontabs not being run): a crontab file apparently HAS to end with a blank line, without it present my crontabs wouldnt get executed |
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| 04:33.16 | yuka_ | enouf: it's my friend's machine, i'll have to ask him tomorrow. |
| 04:35.06 | zhxk | cheers Yippee,a new day! |
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| 04:36.58 | enouf | yuka_: just show them that url, and this one (which was for earlier debian versions like etch, http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci); and tell them to read and follow directions |
| 04:38.49 | jon- | the above bug is even mentioned at the end of the crontab manpage.. shame on me |
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| 04:40.45 | MichelFX | Hello, I have 12 files and I want to create 2 parts |
| 04:40.51 | MichelFX | 1 and 2 |
| 04:40.54 | MichelFX | in rar |
| 04:41.00 | MichelFX | how I can do this? |
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| 04:44.00 | TongueOfColicab | Hi again i have problems trying to install debian lenny from the DVD and CD isos |
| 04:44.26 | TongueOfColicab | ayone of this give a diferent error |
| 04:44.54 | TongueOfColicab | could someone help¿ |
| 04:45.12 | adama_ | !help |
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| 04:46.10 | TongueOfColicab | noone =( |
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| 04:58.55 | Stanlin | Help!! hy Virtual MAchine Manager (KVM) is showing the CDrom greyed??? |
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| 05:01.00 | Siegfried | does anybody have news of the debian unofficial repo? |
| 05:01.22 | Siegfried | i know it's not supported.. but .. i'm sure some people know about it :p |
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| 05:03.17 | Manoj | which one? I know of several dozen |
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| 05:06.12 | enouf | !dmm |
| 05:06.12 | dpkg | well, dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 05:06.19 | enouf | that one? |
| 05:06.23 | Siegfried | Manoj: debian-unofficial.org |
| 05:06.31 | enouf | there's that one too |
| 05:06.50 | enouf | what news are you looking for? |
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| 05:07.24 | debam | enouf, i am getting error as crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status..but in my /usr/lib crti.o file exists |
| 05:07.44 | Siegfried | enouf: still no lenny packages... |
| 05:07.54 | enouf | debam: are you <armam> hi to all, i am getting error while compiling c program for arm as arm-elf/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ? |
| 05:08.06 | enouf | try #debian-arm* ? |
| 05:08.16 | debam | yes,there was some problem in net so i changed.. |
| 05:08.34 | debam | enouf, noone is available @ debian-arm |
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| 05:09.08 | enouf | debam: on irc.oftc.net as well? how about the mailing lists at lists.debian.org ? |
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| 05:10.40 | enouf | debam: on irc.oftc.net/irc.debian.org, i see; |
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| 05:14.43 | infinity1 | is there something faster than rsync? or a way to speed up rsync? |
| 05:14.48 | Siegfried | i will move to debian multimedia then.. it's a shame debian-unofficial is dead |
| 05:15.56 | Stanlin | yeah, its impossible to compile kernel as well |
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| 05:17.39 | pl4yer0ne | infinity1, you can turn compression off |
| 05:17.54 | pl4yer0ne | or on depending on what your syncing |
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| 05:19.37 | jmarsden | infinity1: It all depends... If you are doing a one-time transfer of a large tree of files (say 100000 files or more), it can be faster to tar/gzip the tree and move that one file around and untar at the other end. But if you are using rsync so it will only xfer what changed, then, no, there's nothing faster that I know of... just get a faster connection between the source and destination? :) |
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| 06:02.31 | lero | hello, is daily build iso already using 2.6.29? |
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| 06:13.17 | martin_ | for the love of god. what is wrong with groups in lenny? my audio is broken again |
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| 06:14.42 | martin_ | well, maybe it's not a group issue now. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! |
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| 06:23.45 | Baum | hi. is there a 2TB file size limit when using ext3 over iscsi?= |
| 06:23.53 | Baum | bacula always create a new pool file when reaching 2tb |
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| 06:27.38 | et | Baum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Size_limits |
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| 06:31.43 | enouf | Baum: there's a limitation with DOS partition table types over 2TB |
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| 06:33.43 | Baum | et enouf thx |
| 06:34.08 | Baum | better have a plan before setting up a backup system ;> |
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| 06:35.46 | enouf | Baum: and do you really need filesizes over 2TB ? :-P |
| 06:35.48 | MarkJones | Hi guys I realy want to come back to Debian I miss the dependability of it.My new mobo onboard sound is a Realtek ALC1200 and its not working on a fresh install of 5.0.1. Ive read that it might be a kernel version issue.Read somewhere that kernel 2.6.28 is needed at minimum but i could be wrong. Is that possible to update the kernel relatively easily or should my sound work out of the box? |
| 06:36.20 | enouf | MarkJones: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 06:36.36 | enouf | MarkJones: /msg dpkg soundcheck |
| 06:36.46 | enouf | MarkJones: /msg dpkg speaker-test |
| 06:36.50 | MarkJones | Im currently on ubuntu 9.04. Do you recomend that I reinstall Debian and then come back? |
| 06:37.23 | enouf | MarkJones: show me lspci -nn output of your Audio card |
| 06:37.51 | Manoj | MarkJones: or go ask in an ubuntu forum ... they might have a more ubuntu specific answer |
| 06:38.01 | MarkJones | Well it works fine in this ubuntu install, should i come back when Im booted into Debian? |
| 06:38.12 | MarkJones | I want to come back to debian |
| 06:38.17 | enouf | yes - but lspci should work |
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| 06:38.47 | MarkJones | Ok so you just want me to liek pastebin that so you can give me a better answer? |
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| 06:39.35 | MarkJones | http://pastebin.com/m77341b21 |
| 06:40.24 | enouf | MarkJones: when people ask for lspci -nn, they don't mean lspci |
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| 06:40.50 | MarkJones | oh pardon me I didnt see the -nn, 1 sec |
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| 06:41.08 | Baum | enouf hmm good question. maybe i could handle it somehow different with bacula but i havent found out how yet |
| 06:41.15 | JockyWilson | Debian Lenny NEW install right click "Adjust Date + Time" The platform you are running is not supported by this tool........... ? |
| 06:41.31 | enouf | !set the time |
| 06:41.32 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntp to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS before. |
| 06:41.41 | MarkJones | actually -nn is giving the same output. |
| 06:42.02 | enouf | MarkJones: well, ubuntu sucks then - do it in debian |
| 06:42.06 | JockyWilson | NEWBIE less than 3 days on linux |
| 06:42.15 | MarkJones | Yeah i know I hate ubuntu |
| 06:42.24 | MarkJones | Ill be back Im reinstalling Debian |
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| 06:43.39 | enouf | JockyWilson: possible you're using something in a VM? |
| 06:43.44 | at0m|c | JockyWilson: when setting date on as dpkg described above, be sure to be on the console as root (run "su" to become root, will show # instead of $) |
| 06:44.32 | enouf | the term "platform" to me implies ARCHness or something |
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| 06:49.08 | sobersabre | hi. I need a suggestion: I have a fileserver, nfs and samba on raid over xfs. |
| 06:49.30 | sobersabre | I want to have some kind of nice webbased or other monitoring & controlling tool. |
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| 06:50.26 | sobersabre | I prefer it to be something web based, with ssl support, and to be able to manage quotas without logging into the server directly as I do now. |
| 06:50.39 | sobersabre | to see RAID state, disks SMART status, etc. |
| 06:50.53 | sobersabre | is there any tool like this ? |
| 06:51.18 | sobersabre | (I'm currently reading the openfiler, but it's redhat based, and it's a separate distro) |
| 06:51.21 | adb | !tell sobersabre about search |
| 06:51.22 | enouf | the only thing i can think of offhand is some sort of overly expensive HP or IBM solution |
| 06:52.08 | enouf | basically using it's own proprietary DMI-style interface to manage shit from afar |
| 06:52.42 | sobersabre | enouf I have access to some of the IBM's softwares, I thought there's something ready based on some php cms or somethign... |
| 06:52.48 | sobersabre | adb: you're so kind. |
| 06:53.06 | ninjaslim | do the xorg intel drivers support the x4500hd with 3d acceleration |
| 06:53.11 | sobersabre | I have searched apt, and you can do this too. |
| 06:53.35 | sobersabre | ninjaslim: are you an owner of the new thinkpad ? |
| 06:53.40 | sobersabre | t500 or something ? |
| 06:53.45 | JockyWilson | ok ran dpkg-reconfigure tzdata London time is 1 hr slow should be 7.53am, but desktop 6.53am |
| 06:54.12 | enouf | sobersabre: well .. things like awstats, nagios, etc ... but the other things like monitoring through web-based apps .. i'm just not up on that much.. |
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| 06:54.31 | sobersabre | enouf: nagios's problem is it's for monitoring only. |
| 06:54.39 | JockyWilson | HTH does adjust Date + Time right click just not work......... lol everything on linux you gotta follow a treasure trail to set anything |
| 06:54.48 | sobersabre | and I hoped to have both monitoring and control. |
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| 06:55.17 | ninjaslim | sobersabre: no i'm plabning to build a new system and am confirming hardware comaptibility |
| 06:55.21 | enouf | JockyWilson: what's your BIOS clock set to? follow the UTC info mentioned |
| 06:55.23 | sobersabre | enouf: are there some fileserver plugins I've missed ? |
| 06:56.01 | enouf | sobersabre: i don't know .. maybe try in ##linux as well .. ask here again at various daily hours |
| 06:56.17 | sobersabre | enouf: thanks, will laterz. |
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| 06:56.49 | enouf | ninjaslim: /msg dpkg radeon vs radeonhd |
| 06:57.14 | enouf | ninjaslim: and try #radeon perhaps .. though it's not debian specific |
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| 06:57.58 | jelly-home | he's asking about an intel chip |
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| 06:58.09 | ninjaslim | ??? |
| 06:58.18 | ninjaslim | it's an intel gma x4500hd |
| 06:58.24 | enouf | heh |
| 06:58.41 | enouf | they better stop naming them like ati's then :-P |
| 06:59.19 | enouf | you did say intel .. i just glazed over that .. my bad |
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| 07:00.25 | enouf | welp, intel gets GEM, and intel gets .29 kernel modesettings 1st over the others .. |
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| 07:05.15 | Yondering | hmmmm ok, does lenny have any console mail clients? no pine, no elm, no mutt.. |
| 07:05.28 | jelly-home | !installit |
| 07:05.28 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 07:06.13 | Yondering | I've tried to install them.. I'm not seeing them in the apt repos. =p |
| 07:06.28 | rvalles | they're all there, you must be doing it wrong |
| 07:06.39 | jelly-home | Yondering: oh. can you pastebin "apt-cache policy mutt" for example? |
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| 07:07.23 | Yondering | my sources were out of date.. /facepalm |
| 07:08.28 | Yondering | well, still not seeing pine. =/ oh well, mutt will work, it's just a web/ftp server. |
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| 07:09.21 | jelly-home | Yondering: alpine (a free fork) is there |
| 07:09.44 | dondelelcaro | Yondering: alpine is pine's successor. |
| 07:09.47 | Yondering | jelly, ah, okay. thanks. |
| 07:09.58 | dondelelcaro | (pine is no longer under development, and shouldn't be used) |
| 07:09.58 | Yondering | thanks, wasn't aware of that. |
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| 07:10.29 | generation | I don't suppose anyone here has got a telstra wireless 3g modem working under freebsd? Ive got it working under linux by compiling support in the kernel however |
| 07:10.32 | rvalles | pine's not free software anyways |
| 07:10.41 | rvalles | (wasn't) |
| 07:11.16 | dondelelcaro | rvalles: yeah; we used to distribute pine-source in non-free, though. |
| 07:11.45 | Yondering | used to pine from a netbsd shell account.. that's why I looked for it. |
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| 07:12.01 | Sebboh | Pine was on my first shell account, too. |
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| 07:13.15 | Sebboh | When I came to #debian in 2000 to ask about it, I wasn't informed of the open source download+build script, I was informed that mutt was far superior. |
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| 07:14.01 | Sebboh | I wish that I knew now what I knew then. :P Now I'd reply that it's apples and oranges. *shrug* |
| 07:14.01 | jelly-home | mutt might have been superior in features at one point. |
| 07:14.01 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: well, it is... |
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| 07:14.49 | enouf | awaits Sebboh 's fruitful reply :-P |
| 07:14.54 | Sebboh | Bulldozer vs my honda CRX.. Which would win in a contest? ..The answer is, it depends if it's a race or a demolition derby. :P |
| 07:15.08 | Sebboh | I can always tell when you've been drinking, enouf. :P |
| 07:15.15 | Yondering | maybe.. they both clear the mail spool, that's all I want. I don't actually send mail from this box, it's a 600mhz headless geode. ;) |
| 07:15.52 | enouf | Sebboh: sadly, i'm not ... sigh |
| 07:15.53 | dondelelcaro | Yondering: why don't you just forward mail from it to some central location using nullmailer or similar? |
| 07:15.55 | jelly-home | Yondering: rm /var/mail/$USER can do that too! :-> |
| 07:16.17 | Sebboh | enouf, d'oh. Me either. |
| 07:16.24 | Yondering | yeah, thought about a .forward file too. |
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| 07:24.26 | frede2k | hi |
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| 07:26.00 | frede2k | i am running an apache server with an ssl cert installed for a website, unfortunately the ssl cert was generated with one of the faulty openssl versions, is it possible to use a different machine with good openssl and generate a .csr and use the cert later on the faulty machine? |
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| 07:32.03 | jelly-home | frede2k: yes. You can generate the csr anywhere. |
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| 07:32.17 | genin | allo |
| 07:32.30 | genin | i just apt-get installed 2.6.18-6-686-bigmem |
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| 07:32.39 | genin | and my modules are loading from the previous kernel |
| 07:32.45 | genin | how can i fix that |
| 07:33.04 | genin | or better yet remove the otehr old kernels in /lib/modules ? |
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| 07:37.58 | MarkJones | Ok Im back and have Debian 5.0.1 installed. Sound icon in panel has teh red x and says I have no audio device etc. lspci -nn still has same output as I pasted earlier. |
| 07:38.35 | MarkJones | Anyone feel like takling this? I would realy like to come back to debian as my main OS. |
| 07:39.50 | majhool | MarkJones: i joined after you left. do you have a pastebin of the lspci output? |
| 07:40.49 | MarkJones | Umm I dont remeber it Ill just make a new one for you. do you want the lspci with or without the -nn? |
| 07:40.53 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
| 07:41.40 | MarkJones | http://pastebin.com/m7d264b53 |
| 07:42.40 | MarkJones | line 12 seems to list it there. |
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| 07:43.23 | majhool | i can see why you were asked to provide -nn |
| 07:43.37 | MarkJones | Whats the -nn syntax do? |
| 07:43.39 | majhool | MarkJones: it's not a particularly informative line, but give me a second... |
| 07:43.49 | MarkJones | ok thank you for taking the time |
| 07:44.51 | MarkJones | -nnShow both textual and numeric ID's (names & numbers) Ah i see |
| 07:44.55 | majhool | yeah |
| 07:44.59 | majhool | lspci -n isn't very helpful either |
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| 07:47.36 | MarkJones | The audio device is a Realtek ALC1200. |
| 07:48.03 | superlinux | hi all. i am here to have fun and help who ever i can. you are welcomed to ask me. |
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| 07:49.20 | MarkJones | superlinux: Perhaps you might join in at solving my non functioning audio device on my new system here. I would greatly apreciate it. |
| 07:49.36 | majhool | MarkJones: ok, thanks for that |
| 07:49.41 | MarkJones | I realy want to come back to debian as my main OS, I miss the dependability of it. |
| 07:49.44 | majhool | MarkJones: let's see what we can turn up |
| 07:49.47 | unomi | !audio |
| 07:49.47 | dpkg | i heard sound is ask me about <alsa>, <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>, <ac97>, <dmix>, <esound>, <arts>, <devdsp>. |
| 07:50.10 | MarkJones | alrighty |
| 07:50.25 | unomi | !soundproblems |
| 07:50.40 | unomi | there is a checklist somewhere |
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| 07:50.53 | unomi | basically make sure you belong to the audio group |
| 07:51.05 | majhool | this is always a good place to start |
| 07:51.09 | unomi | make sure that your mixer levels are high |
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| 07:51.28 | majhool | su -c 'adduser YOUR_USER_NAME audio' will add you to the audio group |
| 07:51.55 | majhool | MarkJones: could you pastebin the output of lsmod? |
| 07:52.02 | MarkJones | Doesnt appear that i have an audio group by default install. |
| 07:52.03 | majhool | MarkJones: that is: lsmod |
| 07:52.07 | superlinux | MarkJones: ok bro |
| 07:52.08 | MarkJones | sure |
| 07:52.44 | superlinux | MarkJones: did u do as root : alsaconf? |
| 07:52.48 | majhool | MarkJones: it won't show up in /etc/group or what have you until you add a user to it |
| 07:52.49 | MarkJones | http://pastebin.com/m6f63af3f |
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| 07:53.21 | superlinux | and did you add your username to corresponding audio related groups? |
| 07:53.22 | MarkJones | I was checking under System, admin, users and groups.\ |
| 07:53.45 | majhool | MarkJones: i would guess that that dialog reads /etc/group |
| 07:53.47 | MarkJones | Do i need to manually add an audio group and then just add myself? |
| 07:53.52 | superlinux | MarkJones: as root type this command: alsaconf |
| 07:53.53 | enouf | MarkJones: wrong - this is not lspci -nn output (that you pasted earlier) http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m77341b21 |
| 07:53.54 | at0m|c | majhool: do you need the audio group, apart for realtime audio priority? |
| 07:53.57 | MarkJones | ok |
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| 07:54.20 | MarkJones | enouf: Sure it is |
| 07:54.24 | superlinux | MarkJones: you'd better add it manually |
| 07:54.31 | enouf | MarkJones: no it isn't |
| 07:54.34 | majhool | at0m|c: my understanding was that the audio files created by alsa in /dev would by default belong to the audio group |
| 07:54.37 | MarkJones | ok adding group |
| 07:54.41 | superlinux | MarkJones: so you know that you did. |
| 07:54.43 | at0m|c | majhool: ie, to set the /etc/security/limits.conf to allow members of audio for higher priorities? |
| 07:54.48 | at0m|c | majhool: ah ok |
| 07:55.04 | superlinux | MarkJones: no... add yourself to corresponding audio groups |
| 07:55.14 | majhool | at0m|c: that's an empircal understanding as i've done debian installs and not had access to audio until i added my user to the audio group |
| 07:55.23 | majhool | i'm sure you can find it in the udev config files |
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| 07:56.09 | MarkJones | Wow, umm I shoukld have a user group called "audio" yes or no? |
| 07:56.13 | superlinux | well it's simple to just add the user in the /etc/groups |
| 07:56.17 | majhool | MarkJones: could you pastebin an ls -lR /dev/snd first |
| 07:56.21 | MarkJones | sure |
| 07:56.33 | superlinux | MarkJones: there are audio related groups |
| 07:56.55 | superlinux | from there meanings you'll figure it out |
| 07:57.03 | SPF | I'm unable to install mldonkey-server from apt |
| 07:57.06 | superlinux | *their |
| 07:57.10 | MarkJones | http://pastebin.com/m27035cb8 |
| 07:57.14 | superlinux | ok |
| 07:57.51 | SPF | http://pastebin.com/d6d2f18e5 |
| 07:58.07 | MarkJones | Hmm I dont appear to have audio related groups on my system.I could be wrong but Im not a total newb. |
| 07:58.39 | majhool | MarkJones: ok, so it looks like the hda_intel driver isn't do what it ought to -- i.e., producing control* and pcm* files |
| 07:59.06 | enouf | MarkJones: just to clarify for you, "lspci -nn" shows the vendor/deviceID pair, as well as Bus, and Name .. your paste is missing the vendor/deviceID pair (whic is the important part) |
| 07:59.13 | MarkJones | ok sounds like your on teh right track there.I read about the hda_intel driver earlier. |
| 07:59.31 | majhool | MarkJones: so what you should do is remove all the modules, reinsert them and then look in dmesg to see if there's any useful output |
| 07:59.32 | superlinux | MarkJones: open /etc/groups |
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| 07:59.56 | superlinux | majhool: the alsaconf should do the job |
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| 08:00.02 | majhool | you think so? |
| 08:00.06 | superlinux | yep |
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| 08:00.09 | MarkJones | http://pastebin.com/m57f482d2 I did the -nn |
| 08:00.10 | majhool | all right, what the heck |
| 08:00.10 | enouf | which is gone in squeeze |
| 08:00.14 | superlinux | or most of it |
| 08:00.35 | majhool | wasn't the last alsaconf release in like, 2001? |
| 08:00.46 | superlinux | no |
| 08:00.46 | enouf | MarkJones: now you understand - see the differences? |
| 08:00.55 | superlinux | i still use it |
| 08:01.02 | superlinux | it's cool!! |
| 08:01.13 | enouf | judd: pciid [10de:0774] |
| 08:01.13 | judd | enouf: Error: "10de:0774" is not a valid command. |
| 08:01.14 | superlinux | just apt-get it |
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| 08:01.25 | enouf | heh |
| 08:01.26 | MarkJones | No i dont see the differences. hehe I asked earlier if the -nn was needed. |
| 08:01.36 | MarkJones | least were straight now |
| 08:01.37 | enouf | look closer |
| 08:02.14 | majhool | MarkJones: if you'd like to try removing the modules, reinserting them & seeing if they produce anything useful log-wise, then type |
| 08:02.16 | MarkJones | I have etc/group open for editing |
| 08:02.22 | enouf | .26 kernel supports that Audio device; |
| 08:02.24 | enouf | ~$ grep '10de.*0774' /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/modules.pcimap |
| 08:02.25 | enouf | snd-hda-intel 0x000010de 0x00000774 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0 |
| 08:02.25 | superlinux | i think i entered in the middle of the question. some info is missing to me |
| 08:02.40 | MarkJones | ok thats good news about the kernel support |
| 08:02.44 | MarkJones | I like that |
| 08:02.45 | enouf | that answers your original question |
| 08:02.49 | MarkJones | cool |
| 08:02.52 | superlinux | but all i know : do the alsaconf. it just does it |
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| 08:03.51 | majhool | MarkJones: sudo modprobe -r `lsmod | awk ' /^snd/ { print $1; }' | tr '\n' ' '` && modprobe snd_hda_intel |
| 08:04.00 | majhool | then check dmesg |
| 08:04.05 | MarkJones | I also get a message on bootup of every debian based distro i try and its something about a referenced package not found or something.Not sure if its releated or not |
| 08:04.20 | majhool | if you don't have sudo you can use su -c 'the command line' |
| 08:04.26 | amitz | is not having loading libwrap0 definitely mean /etc/hosts.deny won't has any effect? |
| 08:05.15 | MarkJones | majhool: i get no output |
| 08:05.36 | superlinux | guys. it's easy as alsaconf |
| 08:05.39 | superlinux | really |
| 08:05.42 | enouf | !soundcheck |
| 08:05.42 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp ...use Ctrl-C to stop it after a few seconds. If it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 08:06.11 | MarkJones | alsoconf a command tool or what exactly? |
| 08:06.21 | majhool | he doesn't have snd_pcm_oss loaded |
| 08:06.26 | enouf | but i bet that silly nvidia crap using the intel hda chip needs some special module parm in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 08:06.27 | majhool | so /dev/dsp doesn't exist |
| 08:06.38 | superlinux | well an ncurses program |
| 08:06.41 | majhool | i bet enouf's right as well |
| 08:06.46 | enouf | install alsautils |
| 08:06.52 | MarkJones | not sure if its an intel chip, its a Realtek ALC1200 |
| 08:06.54 | superlinux | ..to be used as root |
| 08:06.57 | amitz | rephrease: if I run "ldd" on an application and the application reveals no libwrap.so, is that mean the application can't be restricted by /etc/hosts.deny for sure? Or it's just undecided? |
| 08:06.59 | enouf | otherwise you're using a *buntu |
| 08:07.10 | superlinux | true |
| 08:07.20 | enouf | if you claim Lenny, it's there - if Squeeze, then it's gone |
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| 08:07.45 | superlinux | i hate ubuntu . just sticks it's nose where it should not! LOL! |
| 08:07.50 | majhool | amitz: i might be wrong about this, but if an application is controlled by inetd then it will obey /etc/hosts.* |
| 08:07.56 | Adrian` | n1te\ |
| 08:08.09 | MarkJones | alsautils installing |
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| 08:08.22 | superlinux | cool |
| 08:08.37 | amitz | majhool: thanks, I'll verify via google about relationship between inetd and /etc/hosts* |
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| 08:08.45 | superlinux | i am on my friends windows mechine. connecting thru mibbit chat |
| 08:08.52 | MarkJones | tools and utils are on here now. |
| 08:08.54 | superlinux | web based chat |
| 08:09.01 | majhool | amitz: apparently it's tcpd that's the ticket |
| 08:09.24 | majhool | amitz: according to man hosts.deny |
| 08:09.45 | enouf | Mirthas: there may be a RealTek chip aspect, like it's a combo modem+soundcard - or realtek is handling the non-digital aspect, or AC97 aspect .. who knows, you go by PCIID though for kernel module, other aspects might require options (specific module parameters) as i mentioned |
| 08:09.53 | superlinux | i like mibbit. solved the privacy problem between the friends |
| 08:10.06 | MarkJones | Sound dont work on ubuntu 8.04, on and off with 8.10, 9.04 works but I want something stable like Debian. I started linucx with Debian Etch and loved it. |
| 08:11.15 | enouf | MarkJones: make sure alsa-oss is also installed - then run through the alsa checklist factoid |
| 08:11.22 | MarkJones | k |
| 08:11.27 | superlinux | MarkJones: just use Debian directly |
| 08:11.49 | amitz | majhool: I certainly need to spare some time to learn these concepts... |
| 08:11.51 | MarkJones | alsa-oss is not installed.Should it be? Maybe thats the issue? |
| 08:12.05 | enouf | cat /proc/asound/{cards,modules} .. yes it should be MarkJones |
| 08:12.11 | majhool | you might have to modprobe snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-mixer-oss |
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| 08:12.32 | enouf | that should happen upon installation - but yeah, those modules will be needed |
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| 08:12.37 | MarkJones | k installing alsa-oss |
| 08:12.49 | at0m|c | MarkJones: that's just an OSS emulater for alsa - for programs who are only OSS capable |
| 08:12.57 | MarkJones | ok |
| 08:12.58 | majhool | amitz: yeah... although these days i guess most network daemons aren't controlled by inetd or part of tcpd |
| 08:13.04 | enouf | and many are ..like flashcrap |
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| 08:13.17 | MarkJones | Should I log out/in to check if anything changed or not needed? |
| 08:13.24 | majhool | and finger and daytime etc |
| 08:13.25 | enouf | and games, and this, and that |
| 08:13.51 | at0m|c | wonderfull zoo of linux audio drivers :) |
| 08:13.53 | majhool | but everything in my unmodified squeeze inetd.conf is commented out |
| 08:14.07 | superlinux | MarkJones: alsa-oss is for alsa-oss emulation |
| 08:14.12 | MarkJones | oh ok |
| 08:14.28 | enouf | MarkJones: are you (username) in the audio group? logout and backin after you run through alsa checklist .. not sure what your DE could be doing .. but arts and/or esd can kill you |
| 08:15.29 | MarkJones | I did add a group called audio cause there was NOT one.And yes i am a member of that group.That what you mean? |
| 08:15.48 | enouf | MarkJones: fire up alsamixer and unmute shit - hit those 3 factoids i told you about {alsa checklist, soundcheck, speaker-test} |
| 08:16.19 | majhool | if there aren't control & pcm files in /dev/snd, i don't think he's going to get anywhere |
| 08:16.22 | enouf | MarkJones: you need to logout/login when you add yourself to a group for it to take affect - otherwise test as root user |
| 08:16.25 | MarkJones | the sound mixer would not open before, now it DOES open. |
| 08:16.30 | MarkJones | hmm cool |
| 08:16.47 | MarkJones | Ok want me to logout and back in now? |
| 08:16.58 | enouf | sure .. whatever man ;-) |
| 08:16.59 | superlinux | so e.g. when it comes to realplayer, you type: aoss realplay. this will make realplayer run itself on alsa, though it is OSS |
| 08:17.27 | MarkJones | Ok brb gents.crossing my fingers. |
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| 08:18.38 | superlinux | ok |
| 08:18.47 | superlinux | NEEXXTT! |
| 08:18.49 | superlinux | LOL! |
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| 08:19.11 | MarkJones | Oh you men are good! Best of the best i say! |
| 08:19.14 | superlinux | who's next? |
| 08:19.17 | enouf | s/superlinux/soupnazi |
| 08:19.18 | MarkJones | Well done |
| 08:19.27 | MarkJones | :) |
| 08:19.40 | MarkJones | Im thinking that the group sound was the answer. |
| 08:19.49 | MarkJones | oops audio group i mean |
| 08:19.57 | superlinux | enouf: why soupnazi/ |
| 08:20.00 | superlinux | ? |
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| 08:20.06 | majhool | i bet the /dev/dsp was the answer |
| 08:20.13 | majhool | i.e. the oss modules |
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| 08:20.26 | MarkJones | I thank you guys very much for your help it sgreatly apreciated! |
| 08:20.53 | superlinux | MarkJones: no worries.. any else? |
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| 08:21.12 | enouf | superlinux: the NEXXT! bit |
| 08:21.27 | superlinux | enouf:? what ? |
| 08:21.38 | enouf | superlinux: go watch some Sienfeld |
| 08:22.08 | enouf | google youtube soupnazi seinfeld next! or something |
| 08:22.08 | MarkJones | Nope that was my only issue.I will make myself a txt file and throw it on my thumbdrive. I learn something new everyday. |
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| 08:22.41 | MarkJones | Gnight to you all.Have a great day/night! |
| 08:22.47 | enouf | MarkJones: np |
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| 08:23.05 | superlinux | enouf: i am not american... that has nothing to deal with my culture |
| 08:23.26 | enouf | oh ffs already |
| 08:23.31 | enouf | !enouf |
| 08:23.31 | dpkg | Cut it out! |
| 08:23.53 | majhool | Seinfeld is world culture now |
| 08:24.09 | davidisko | hi there, anyone got the same problem? http://fixunix.com/proftpd/181810-proftpd-user-problems-tls-hang-after-234-auth-ssl-successful.html |
| 08:25.06 | superlinux | well.. i now seinfeld.. i used to watch some of it.. anyway. cut it out |
| 08:25.18 | superlinux | well.. i know seinfeld.. i used to watch some of it.. anyway. cut it out |
| 08:26.20 | enouf | actually google "No soup for you! next!" .. it was a funny reference, but you're not aware of it, so let's move on .. no worries |
| 08:26.34 | superlinux | ok |
| 08:27.20 | superlinux | enouf: i am laughing at it now. maybe saw it. i imagined it |
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| 08:28.18 | superlinux | enouf: are you in australia? |
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| 08:29.09 | SparFux | How to find out which alternative to configure for a specific /etc/alternative/* ? |
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| 08:29.14 | enouf | no, i'm a dumbass american |
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| 08:29.34 | enouf | SparFux: tab-completion |
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| 08:29.54 | enouf | SparFux: as root update-alternatives --config [tab][tab] |
| 08:29.55 | superlinux | LOL! |
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| 08:30.08 | SparFux | Ah. Ok, then I get a list and can guess. Ok. |
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| 08:30.13 | enouf | or try using --list .. but that doesn't tab-complete for me |
| 08:30.32 | superlinux | i am a palestinian in australia |
| 08:30.43 | majhool | ÙاÙÙÙØ |
| 08:30.48 | superlinux | with a masters in I.T |
| 08:30.56 | superlinux | majhool: ah walla |
| 08:31.13 | majhool | اÙØÙ
د اÙÙÙ |
| 08:31.33 | superlinux | majhool: just login to linuxac.org and #linuxac be one of us |
| 08:31.38 | SparFux | enouf: --list lists for specific packages the alternatives. I am searching for a way to determine, which package to configure to configure some alternative. |
| 08:31.39 | majhool | Ù
برÙ٠عÙÙ Ù
جستÙر |
| 08:31.50 | superlinux | teslam |
| 08:31.57 | SparFux | found it! But just by guessing. |
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| 08:32.01 | superlinux | majhool: thanks |
| 08:32.02 | [Jasper] | hej guys |
| 08:32.12 | [Jasper] | how can I select which version to use if there are multiple versions installed |
| 08:32.19 | [Jasper] | there was this command to do this |
| 08:32.24 | superlinux | majhool: what is left is the residency. |
| 08:32.29 | majhool | اÙÙ Ùست عربÙا بÙا طاÙب |
| 08:32.41 | majhool | اÙ! ÙÙ
سÙØ©Ø |
| 08:33.22 | superlinux | majhool: are you an arab? |
| 08:33.43 | majhool | Ùا ادرس اÙعربÙØ© باÙجاÙ
عة |
| 08:33.50 | superlinux | eff! tamam |
| 08:33.57 | majhool | Ø´Ùرا |
| 08:34.21 | majhool | ÙÙÙÙ Ùا اعر٠اÙا اÙÙصØاء |
| 08:34.22 | superlinux | have you checked the linuxac.org? |
| 08:34.26 | majhool | no but i ought to |
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| 08:35.00 | majhool | i'd like to work on translation projects but i fear my arabic isn't quite good enough to be helpful yet |
| 08:35.03 | superlinux | it's the linux arab community website |
| 08:35.21 | superlinux | anyway you'll get it |
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| 08:35.59 | majhool | اÙÙا٠ÙØ«Ùر Ù
٠اÙعرب اÙØ°ÙÙ ÙستخدÙ
ÙÙ linux? |
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| 08:36.26 | superlinux | majhool: have you tried chatting with an arab before? voice chat? |
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| 08:36.51 | majhool | Ù٠اÙجاÙ
عة ÙÙØ· |
| 08:37.04 | majhool | and always in MSA |
| 08:37.11 | superlinux | ah ok . i mean like real talk and chat? |
| 08:37.24 | superlinux | like with natives? |
| 08:37.29 | majhool | oh sure |
| 08:37.44 | majhool | as much as i can, but i can barely speak masri |
| 08:37.45 | hagbard | I found a bug in debianutils 3.1, but I'm having trouble figuring out where or to whom to submit a patch or even to see if there's been any discussion on it. Any suggestions? |
| 08:37.58 | superlinux | aha ok |
| 08:38.00 | majhool | but i can do ok in fusHa |
| 08:38.08 | azeem | hagbard: see the bug reports |
| 08:38.09 | superlinux | that's all you need |
| 08:38.35 | majhool | إ٠شاء اÙÙÙ |
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| 08:39.09 | hagbard | azeem: I googled, found some and found an email from may 2nd describing the problem, but I haven't found any further reports. Is there a central place to look up the bug reports? |
| 08:39.31 | hagbard | azeem: nevermind, I just found the PTS system |
| 08:39.45 | hagbard | And someone's already fixed the bug. Cool. Thank you! |
| 08:39.50 | enouf | hagbard: BTS, bugs.debian.org |
| 08:41.00 | superlinux | so who is next? |
| 08:41.13 | superlinux | any questions? |
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| 08:47.57 | majhool | i've got a question: what back up software does everyone use? |
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| 08:51.35 | hoxu | that's a poll, not a question |
| 08:51.40 | hoxu | define your needs |
| 08:52.05 | hoxu | if there was a one-size-fits-all solution, people wouldn't be losing data regularly |
| 08:52.35 | nkuttler | majhool: i like backuppc |
| 08:52.38 | superlinux | i backup using tar |
| 08:52.46 | Manoj | bacula |
| 08:53.00 | majhool | hoxu: ok, assuming people don't specify their context: what do people use when they want to back up both filesystems and mysql databases (MyISAM(!)) |
| 08:53.10 | majhool | that's a much steeper order |
| 08:53.27 | at0m|c | I use dd to backup full partitions, like for an image restore or CD copy. i use "cp -arx" for folders. and pipe through tar to (de-)compress |
| 08:53.31 | nkuttler | majhool: mysqldumps, doh! |
| 08:53.35 | hagbard | We use Bakbone netvault, but we have enough stuff to backup to warrant two 30 tape ultrium autoloaders. |
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| 08:53.58 | hagbard | majhool: mysqldump! |
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| 08:54.28 | nkuttler | majhool: backing up binary db files sounds like a baaad idea |
| 08:54.32 | hagbard | You want to make sure you backup your database in a consistent state. |
| 08:54.49 | hagbard | Hence, don't backup the raw database files unless the database server is stopped. |
| 08:55.29 | ewet | hi, my apt-cache is using >1gb ram when i search through it. several attempts will change that behavior: deleting the cache, run apt-get update, set LANG=C, delete some of the sources (http://sprunge.us/ISKH) however it will always behave like that again after some time (i'm talking hours here!) |
| 08:55.54 | ewet | so what can i do to change a-c behavior to normal permanently? |
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| 08:57.05 | hagbard | majhool: choosing a backup solution really depends on the human factors. What are you backing up to, how often, etc. |
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| 08:57.50 | majhool | hagbard: the database is relatively low load -- no more than 3 concurrent users, under 1000 rows |
| 08:58.20 | majhool | hagbard: so right now i have a passwordless ssh linked in via its authorized_key file to mysqldump, at about 3 am |
| 08:58.42 | majhool | so the database server isn't down, but the tables are in a consistent state as they haven't been used for 8 hours |
| 08:58.44 | majhool | or so i hope |
| 08:58.54 | nkuttler | majhool: never hope or assume |
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| 08:59.33 | hagbard | majhool: mysqldump should ensure they're in a consistent state by locking the tables while it's collecting the data. |
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| 09:00.09 | arcsky | i wonder how i can fix welcome message when i ssh into my server |
| 09:00.29 | nkuttler | arcsky: man motd |
| 09:00.55 | hagbard | majhool: That's not a bad approach. You may want to use --lock-tables with MyISAM. |
| 09:00.57 | arcsky | i tested with comment with # lines in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh but it still was some crap there |
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| 09:01.09 | enouf | there's a /etc/motd.tail file as well |
| 09:01.16 | arcsky | ye |
| 09:01.24 | majhool | hagbard: hey, thank you for that. i am a little uncomfortable with the passwordless login |
| 09:01.28 | arcsky | still i got Last login: ...... |
| 09:01.29 | hagbard | majhool: We do something similar, incidentally. The dump files are compressed and kept in a directory that, later, is written to tape by bakbone. |
| 09:01.33 | majhool | and thank you all for your suggestions, i'm going to look into them |
| 09:01.38 | arcsky | No mail. |
| 09:01.38 | arcsky | Last login: Mon May 4 10:45:26 2009 from 192.168.0.2 |
| 09:02.06 | nkuttler | majhool: by passwordless you mean key auth? |
| 09:02.09 | majhool | hagbard: gotcha, you're probably dealing with much larger databases |
| 09:02.15 | majhool | nkuttler: yep |
| 09:02.23 | hagbard | majhool: Well, you could have your database server do mysqldumps to a directory that you make available over the network R/O |
| 09:02.51 | majhool | R/O? |
| 09:02.51 | nkuttler | majhool: so just create an unprivileged user that can maybe run a script with necessary privileges |
| 09:02.53 | hagbard | majhool: not likely larger, just somewhat important to us. |
| 09:03.37 | majhool | right |
| 09:03.41 | majhool | sorry, i read that wrong |
| 09:03.55 | majhool | ok, so the privs are restricted on who can mount this R/O share |
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| 09:04.23 | hagbard | Yes, but more importantly, they won't be remotely executing any code. |
| 09:04.57 | majhool | the concern being that even command=".." in authorized_keys requires that /etc/password has a shell associated with the remote user? |
| 09:05.37 | hagbard | Yes. \ |
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| 09:06.41 | dirkD1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:06.55 | hagbard | I've seen too many environment variable buffer overflows and compromises to assume that the command=".." is reliable. |
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| 09:07.12 | Eulex | hello |
| 09:07.31 | hagbard | dirkD1: have the storage device modules been loaded? Do you see anything in /proc/partitions? |
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| 09:07.45 | ewet | so no one has any idea how to solve that? then i'll go and write a bug report... |
| 09:07.58 | enouf | dirkD1: does /sbin/MAKEDEV do anything? |
| 09:08.01 | Eulex | I've got a program running in WINE that has 2637m VIRT, 25m RES and 10m SHR. have anybody got any idea what this means? |
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| 09:08.02 | majhool | thanks for the advice, guys |
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| 09:08.13 | dirkD1 | hagbard: i see only the loop device in /proc/partitions |
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| 09:08.30 | dirkD1 | enouf: no :( |
| 09:08.44 | hagbard | dirkD1: That would mean that not all of the necessary drivers have been loaded. |
| 09:08.54 | enouf | dirkD1: maybe you want to --bind mount /dev prior to chrooting |
| 09:09.01 | hagbard | dirkD1: What hardware do you have that you expect to need? |
| 09:09.16 | enouf | is /dev/ populated in your initrd boot? |
| 09:09.17 | hagbard | dirkD1: As in, even if there are no /dev file entries for the drives, you should see them in /proc/partitions. |
| 09:09.21 | dirkD1 | well, just /dev/disk/by-label/............ |
| 09:09.23 | sylarr | how do I make debianLive with updated untivirus , and ntfs-3g package preinstalled? |
| 09:09.52 | hagbard | ewet: Sorry, when you deleted the cache, did you also delete /var/lib/apt/lists/* ? |
| 09:09.56 | dirkD1 | enouf: " is /dev/ populated in your initrd boot?" -> yes |
| 09:10.06 | hagbard | dirkD1: sata harddrives? |
| 09:10.15 | ewet | hagbard: all - of - it :-) |
| 09:10.28 | dirkD1 | hagbard: well, i have no harddisks attached atm |
| 09:10.48 | hagbard | dirkD1: Ok. So, you said, "you see no disks" |
| 09:10.54 | hagbard | dirkD1: You have no disks, so you shouldn't see any. |
| 09:11.03 | dirkD1 | well, i should see my cdrom drive, right? |
| 09:11.16 | hagbard | dirkD1: Assuming the drivers are loaded. |
| 09:11.32 | dirkD1 | i did depmod -a |
| 09:11.42 | hagbard | dirkD1: that doesn't mean that the drivers are loaded. |
| 09:12.02 | enouf | ewet: which debian version and which apt version? |
| 09:12.04 | dirkD1 | libata is loaded |
| 09:12.11 | hagbard | what about cdrom? |
| 09:12.25 | hagbard | do you know which sata driver to use for your hardware? |
| 09:12.48 | dirkD1 | hagbard: i modprobed cdrom, and i don't see it |
| 09:12.57 | dirkD1 | i mean: i see it in lsmod |
| 09:13.00 | dirkD1 | but not in /dev |
| 09:13.22 | hagbard | dirkD1: modprobe sr |
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| 09:13.29 | hagbard | err, its called sr_mod |
| 09:13.38 | dirkD1 | yes, that's done automatically |
| 09:13.53 | hagbard | ok, do you see the drive being detected in dmesg? |
| 09:14.10 | dirkD1 | nope |
| 09:14.17 | ewet | my bug seems to be related to #299307 |
| 09:14.23 | dirkD1 | but i don't care about the cdrom drive |
| 09:14.36 | dirkD1 | i'll try this: (11:10:39) enouf: dirkD1: maybe you want to --bind mount /dev prior to chrooting |
| 09:14.42 | enouf | ewet: i had issues with certain apt versions getting hung up .. especially during cache searches, i upgraded through it though .. something was funky .. if 'vmstat 2 shows serious usage while running apt-cache search ... i'd upgrade |
| 09:14.44 | dirkD1 | and add a hard disk (to tes) |
| 09:14.46 | dirkD1 | *test |
| 09:14.48 | hagbard | dirkD1: hold up |
| 09:14.57 | ewet | enouf: Lenny, 2.6.26-2-amd64 x86_64 GNU/Linux, apt 0.7.20.2 |
| 09:15.04 | enouf | (run it in a different shell ofcourse) |
| 09:15.17 | hagbard | dirkD1: normally, all the hardware attached is discovered by something, I don't know what - it used to be hotplug - and it loaded the corresponding drivers. |
| 09:15.38 | dirkD1 | and that should be called by init? |
| 09:15.48 | enouf | dirkD1: well without HDDs you have no Filesystems to mount :-) |
| 09:15.57 | dirkD1 | it's a livecd |
| 09:16.03 | hagbard | dirkD1: yeah, I got that. |
| 09:16.15 | dirkD1 | i use aufs, with squashfs and tmpfs under it |
| 09:16.21 | ewet | enouf: by upgrade you mean apt-get upgrade? |
| 09:16.21 | hagbard | dirkD1: I'm just saying that you might not care about the cdrom showing up, but it might be a good clue. |
| 09:16.26 | enouf | dirkD1: you could try cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info |
| 09:16.28 | dirkD1 | ok |
| 09:16.52 | hagbard | dirkD1: also, you should have /dev bound into the inside of the chroot if you're starting udev before chrooting. |
| 09:17.02 | dirkD1 | ok, rebooting.... |
| 09:17.45 | dirkD1 | btw: should i do the same with /sys and /proc? |
| 09:17.50 | enouf | ewet: hrm ... that's a Lenny kernel .. you're running Lenny? |
| 09:17.51 | hagbard | Yes. |
| 09:17.54 | hagbard | well |
| 09:17.59 | enouf | judd: versions apt |
| 09:17.59 | judd | enouf: apt -- etch: 0.6.46.4-0.1 etch-security: 0.6.46.4-0.1+etch1 lenny: 0.7.20.2 squeeze: 0.7.20.2 lenny-security: 0.7.20.2+lenny1 sid: 0.7.21 |
| 09:18.00 | hagbard | you don't need to mount them with bind |
| 09:18.05 | hagbard | you can just mount them in the chroot |
| 09:18.09 | hagbard | or afterwards. |
| 09:18.19 | dirkD1 | hagbard: i have to umount and tremount them now after chrooting |
| 09:18.20 | hagbard | they're virtual filesystems. |
| 09:18.29 | ewet | enouf: yes |
| 09:18.35 | hagbard | you can mount them in the chroot before you chroot. |
| 09:18.39 | dirkD1 | i'll try to mount --move them |
| 09:18.52 | enouf | hrm .. ewet do you have some apt-cacher-ng or something? are you using your own local mirrors? using http_proxy? |
| 09:19.01 | hagbard | ie, mount -t proc proc /root/proc |
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| 09:20.10 | enouf | doesn't matter hagbard - i just find it much easier to --bind mount them prior, since i usually exit the chroot and had forgotten to umount prior |
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| 09:20.30 | ewet | enouf: no as you see in http://sprunge.us/ISKH i'm using german mirrors for the offical repo, that's all not special config here or anything |
| 09:20.33 | dirkD1 | ok, bind --mount worked |
| 09:21.23 | ewet | enouf: at least not as far as i know my system... |
| 09:21.28 | dirkD1 | but.... my initramfs contains less modules than the real filesystem/root/whatever it's called |
| 09:21.34 | dirkD1 | how to check if they are loaded? |
| 09:21.43 | enouf | lsmod |
| 09:22.00 | dirkD1 | yes, but i don't have any hardware to test that |
| 09:22.01 | ewet | enouf: so if debian changed things from etch to lenny automagically i probably wouldn't know |
| 09:22.39 | enouf | dirkD1: modprobe -l | grep name ... or just | less |
| 09:22.42 | dirkD1 | ok, other thing: what should i do after chrooting? depmod -a && init 3? |
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| 09:23.01 | enouf | when you say 'loaded' you mean loaded modules? |
| 09:23.26 | enouf | or .. list all available kernel modules? |
| 09:23.28 | dirkD1 | no, this livecd should support a lot of SAS/SCSI harddisks |
| 09:23.47 | dirkD1 | i put all modules on the squashfs FS |
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| 09:23.54 | enouf | ewet: apt has indeed changed - see the changelogs |
| 09:23.56 | dirkD1 | and just a few modules in the initramfs |
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| 09:24.46 | ewet | enouf: okay |
| 09:24.54 | enouf | ewet: i would watch vmstat output as i mentioned, maybe also try iotop and top/htop |
| 09:24.58 | dirkD1 | another problem: if i run 'init 3' now, i get '/dev/initctl: No such file or directory' |
| 09:25.06 | dirkD1 | and indeed, there is no such file or directory |
| 09:25.07 | digitaloktay | moin people |
| 09:25.24 | enouf | dirkD1: try telinit 3 ... perhaps |
| 09:25.35 | dirkD1 | same error |
| 09:25.44 | hagbard | dirkD1: dude, /dev/initctl is not made by udev |
| 09:25.48 | hagbard | dirkD1: It's a pipe |
| 09:25.56 | dirkD1 | ah |
| 09:26.11 | hagbard | dirkD1: mkfifo /dev/initctl |
| 09:26.28 | enouf | why are you booting into only an initramfs anyways? things are done with all sorts of minimalistic tricks and such to fake a rootfs and setup a real rootfs for mounting |
| 09:26.31 | hagbard | dirkD1: I gotta jet. good luck |
| 09:26.31 | ewet | ewet: i'll try and provide as much information as i can and strace the thing. #299307 is from 2005 and hasn't changed from then - if it's a bug should i file a new report? |
| 09:26.53 | dirkD1 | hagbard: thanks for your help |
| 09:27.02 | dirkD1 | i get this error now btw: |
| 09:27.06 | hagbard | ewet: you're talking to yourself, but filing a report is probably wise. |
| 09:27.22 | dirkD1 | timeout opening/writing control channel:/dev/initctl |
| 09:27.35 | enouf | !dbugs 299307 |
| 09:27.39 | dpkg | #299307:N[apt] apt-cache eat up all the memory and SWAP (); Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:33:16 UTC [] |
| 09:27.41 | hagbard | well, did you make /dev/initctl before starting init or not? |
| 09:27.41 | ewet | hagbard: ^^ oh i meant enouf... |
| 09:27.50 | enouf | i saw ;-) |
| 09:27.53 | hagbard | because init needs to be listening on the pipe to get the message |
| 09:28.35 | dirkD1 | hagbard: before |
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| 09:29.01 | enouf | ewet: how much system RAM is installed? and what does "file /bin/ls" say? |
| 09:29.29 | ewet | 4gb, /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped |
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| 09:30.21 | enouf | ewet: might want to ask/search/look at the debian-amd64 mailing list? or ask channel? i think it's a -dev channel though |
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| 09:31.35 | enouf | ewet: not sure if channel exist here or on irc.debian.org (oftc.net) or both or what |
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| 09:32.30 | ewet | enouf: okay - thank you so far |
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| 09:35.45 | enouf | ewet: might want to try something like apt-get autoclean, to remove older stale .debs = see man apt-get for more |
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| 09:35.58 | um|P4 | hi |
| 09:36.05 | um|P4 | Anyone here still running etch? |
| 09:36.33 | CoolCold | i am |
| 09:36.36 | Eulex | my server still runs etch |
| 09:36.48 | ewet | enouf: yes cleaning can help for a while as a-g update can - however this will only be temporary |
| 09:36.53 | Eulex | you might want to try asking your real quetsion to the full channel tho |
| 09:37.02 | dirkD1 | hagbard / enouf: even my NIC is not detected |
| 09:37.11 | um|P4 | I need a copy of your xorg,conf, if you'd be so kind as to pastebin that for me. |
| 09:37.25 | Eulex | hah, sorry, my server does not run xorg |
| 09:37.27 | dirkD1 | sorry, it is :) |
| 09:37.35 | nkuttler | !tell um|P4 about drxx |
| 09:37.43 | Eulex | um|P4, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not help? |
| 09:38.16 | CoolCold | yeah, No X - No harm |
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| 09:40.18 | um|P4 | Well, Its because of my KVM. For some retarded reasom EDID doesnt get passed through, so I only get a res of up to 800x600. I figure If I get a copy of someone's old xorg config, I can edit it to suit my hardware/resolutions instead of messing with adding the modeline. |
| 09:40.37 | um|P4 | Which is lazy really. |
| 09:40.39 | enouf | ewet: is your /var partition very small? or are you getting low on disk space? |
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| 09:43.00 | enouf | ewet: ~$ ls -l /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin says? |
| 09:43.45 | ewet | enouf: unlikely (http://sprunge.us/ZIMK); -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18770404 4. Mai 08:15 /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin |
| 09:44.30 | enouf | um|P4: cvt will generate a modeline and wiki.x.org should example xorg.conf if not enough on google |
| 09:44.50 | enouf | ewet: not bad, mine's 11M and not an issue |
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| 09:45.31 | ewet | enouf: ;-) |
| 09:46.51 | xand | in gnome, when I press the power button, it comes up with a "what do you want to do?" box; is it possible to do this in fluxbox? |
| 09:47.26 | enouf | ewet: want a decent read and more finely honed tool to test with? start here; http://koltsoff.com/pub/ures/ then install and try meminfo |
| 09:47.52 | ewet | enouf: long ago i imagined that it may not really be the database being too big but apt running in some kind of memory hole... |
| 09:48.08 | dirkD1 | enouf / hagbard: could you take a look via VNC maybe? |
| 09:48.23 | enouf | xand: sounds very ACPI and /etc/acpi/* script related if not a special gnome-applet thingy |
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| 09:50.42 | enouf | dirkD1: i need to go afk now for a while - but i can't be of much more help to you at this point anyway |
| 09:51.02 | dirkD1 | ok, thanks :) |
| 09:51.34 | dirkD1 | ps |
| 09:51.36 | dirkD1 | oops |
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| 09:54.03 | symtab | what package do i need to install to get a working c compiler (gcc)? |
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| 09:55.33 | techknow | would anyone here be able to offer advice regarding the unstable repo? |
| 09:55.54 | techknow | I am trying to get the latest version of ruby installed, and have heard that it might be in the unstable repo. |
| 09:56.16 | techknow | I tried adding it to my sources.list but it throws errors when I run apt-get update |
| 09:56.32 | symtab | got it |
| 09:56.35 | symtab | build-essential |
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| 10:11.57 | nkuttler | techknow: are you running lenny? |
| 10:12.10 | techknow | no, etch |
| 10:12.25 | nkuttler | !tell techknow about backports |
| 10:12.32 | nkuttler | maybe there's a backport.. |
| 10:12.59 | techknow | thanks, I'll go looking |
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| 10:35.07 | SparFux | Hello. With yate, I get this error: QT sounds are not available So where can I get the qt sounds in debian? |
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| 10:42.02 | at0m|c | Sebboh: fdupes found a bunch for me |
| 10:42.43 | Sebboh | ok at0m|c. |
| 10:42.46 | Sebboh | thanks. |
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| 10:46.57 | ethanol | hey guys, we installed xvfb so we can use one of our servers to create screenshots of webpages, but when running xvfb it complains that xauth is not found. why does it rely on xauth? |
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| 10:52.17 | Kevin` | ethanol: it's probably trying to open an sdl window |
| 10:52.30 | Kevin` | ethanol: why do you need vfb btw? why not just run a vnc server in the guest? |
| 10:52.38 | Sebboh | isn't xauth, like, really small? And, I guess it's used even on local host so that use one can't mess with user two's screen? |
| 10:52.42 | ethanol | not sure if that would work? |
| 10:52.46 | ethanol | xauth is not available on etch |
| 10:53.07 | Kevin` | ethanol: it's probably part of the normal x server crap |
| 10:53.13 | ethanol | Kevin`: basically we want to run firefox on a headless server in a virtual frame buffer or something similar, so we can grab a screenshot and then just kill it |
| 10:53.15 | Sebboh | huh? yeah it must be packaged. |
| 10:53.39 | Kevin` | ethanol: I still don't see why you couldn't do that entirely in the guest |
| 10:53.42 | Sebboh | ethanol, there are existing testing solutions out there.. |
| 10:53.50 | ethanol | Sebboh: I could not find any |
| 10:54.22 | Sebboh | ethanol, were you googling for screen shots or web development testing? |
| 10:54.49 | ethanol | "linux screen shot website" |
| 10:54.51 | ethanol | were my terms |
| 10:54.51 | ethanol | ): |
| 10:55.11 | Sebboh | automated.. testing. Most are commercial, but even the crappy open source ones can do what you want and more. |
| 10:55.36 | Sebboh | since I'm assuming that you don't need a lot of scripted fake user interaction with the page and stuff, huh? :P |
| 10:55.40 | negge | I have a USB drive which shows up as two different drives (sdb and sdc). The sdc partition is just 10 MB in size and contains some shitty "USB Notebook" program. I want to remove this partition but Linux won't let me, it says it's read-only. dmesg tells me "[sdc] Write Protect is on". Is there ANY way I can force Linux to ignore this write protect bullshit? |
| 10:55.44 | ethanol | none at all |
| 10:55.50 | ethanol | just a screenshot of what it looks like |
| 10:56.16 | negge | fdisk -l also returns a lot of errors about the partition table on /dev/sdc. Seems like it's totally messed up |
| 10:56.57 | Kevin` | negge: UTSL |
| 10:57.19 | Kevin` | ethanol: btw, I thought we were in ##xen :) |
| 10:57.22 | hjb | hi. what's the difference between openvas and nessus? i just found it as new in lenny backports |
| 10:57.29 | Kevin` | ethanol: answer still applies I think though. |
| 10:57.29 | negge | Kevin`: Kevin` what do you mean by that? |
| 10:57.34 | ethanol | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/125951/command-line-program-to-create-website-screenshots-on-linux |
| 10:57.50 | ethanol | would that require an x enviroment? or would the vnc server be sufficient? |
| 10:58.22 | Kevin` | negge: cd /usr/src, apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`, read the code for usb storage |
| 10:58.35 | Kevin` | ethanol: the vnc server provides an X environment on the host |
| 10:58.42 | Kevin` | (the thing running it) |
| 10:58.42 | hjb | oh ok. to answer myself: openvas in a free software fork of nessus ;-) |
| 10:58.47 | negge | Kevin`: that's not exactly helpful. |
| 10:59.03 | ethanol | Kevin`: but I don't need gnome or kde installed, or? |
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| 10:59.30 | negge | ethanol: don't ask too many questions from Kevin` , sooner or later he'll reply with "UTSL" |
| 10:59.42 | Kevin` | ethanol: technically no, if it's all scripted. you won't get any window borders or interaction if you don't have a WM though |
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| 10:59.53 | Kevin` | throws a book at negge |
| 11:00.01 | negge | :D |
| 11:00.22 | hjb | what UTLS, btw? |
| 11:00.24 | negge | well, I think I'm gonna give up, even Google had no answer for me |
| 11:00.31 | Sebboh | Use the Source, Luke. |
| 11:00.44 | hjb | ahh ok |
| 11:00.46 | ethanol | Kevin`: well we purely need to see the page rendered, nothing more. |
| 11:01.00 | ethanol | Kevin`: I'll give the found example a try |
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| 11:01.27 | negge | ethanol: I don't see why one would necessarily need X to create a "screenshot" of a webpage. |
| 11:01.56 | ethanol | negge: I haven't found any other solutions, except for windows based ones. |
| 11:02.01 | Kevin` | ethanol: xvfb will probably work too actually, once you have enough of the X stuff installed to make the other things work :/ |
| 11:02.30 | Kevin` | xbase-clients is what i've normally installed, but iirc that package doesn't exist in lenny |
| 11:02.44 | hjb | can't the rendering angine of iceweasel not be used to directly output something like png ? |
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| 11:03.21 | Kevin` | hjb: it would probably take more work to do it properly like that, unless you can find it already done |
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| 11:03.54 | at0m|c | hjb: i use CutePDF to print page to pdf - if that'd work from console.. |
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| 11:04.29 | hjb | Kevin`: that's what i was wondering about, if there isn't a frontend already available to do that |
| 11:04.44 | negge | ethanol: is it too much to ask to install xserver-xorg-core and then use X11 forwarding/VNC to make screenshots? |
| 11:05.06 | ethanol | negge: meh, they're webhosting machines. installing xserver is a bit overkill |
| 11:05.41 | negge | depends on how leet you are at using a shell |
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| 11:06.19 | Kevin` | ethanol: your original solution is sane, just get the minimum X stuff installed for it to actually work. I thought you were talking about something else originally (another 'vfb') |
| 11:06.21 | ethanol | I once killed a server by doing rm -R /* |
| 11:06.23 | ethanol | so |
| 11:06.35 | digx | hey guys, I'm trying to figure out how to disable the sleep of a display on debian. I've googled but haven't found any definitive answers (most people are using X11 where that takes over power management). any ideas? |
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| 11:07.12 | Kevin` | digx: setterm -blank 0 |
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| 11:07.23 | H2S04 | xset s off |
| 11:07.26 | H2S04 | xset s noblank |
| 11:07.32 | H2S04 | :P |
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| 11:08.04 | digx | :P |
| 11:08.15 | digx | so I assume I should use Kevin`'s cause I'm not using X? |
| 11:08.30 | H2S04 | yes. |
| 11:08.45 | digx | cool stuff, thanks guys |
| 11:08.53 | at0m|c | ethanol: why run the xserver on the server, and not find another victim machine to automate that screenshot process on? |
| 11:09.17 | at0m|c | ethanol: do the screenshots be taken from localhost? |
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| 11:09.44 | ethanol | eh we don't have a lot of spare machines :\ |
| 11:09.49 | ethanol | none actually, currently |
| 11:10.27 | at0m|c | you're not chatting from the webserver, i hope? :> |
| 11:10.28 | at0m|c | oki.. |
| 11:10.34 | H2S04 | ethanol, live cd :P |
| 11:10.44 | ethanol | at0m: no :p |
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| 11:15.33 | H2S04 | ls |
| 11:15.40 | negge | ethanol: if you can't find a solution and you're not happy with installing X on the server, you can find a computer powerful enough to take some screenshots at any junkyard/auction/friends place. |
| 11:16.10 | H2S04 | I'd just use a virtual machine or something. ;p |
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| 11:21.46 | rabbott | quick question, how can I run a script a certain # of minutes after user login while opening a shell? |
| 11:22.06 | hjb | ethanol: what's about khtml2png? was that already suggested |
| 11:22.23 | ethanol | found that, was a bit too extensive |
| 11:22.26 | ethanol | but maybe |
| 11:23.10 | hjb | ethanol: to extensive? |
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| 11:23.23 | rabbott | can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 11:23.26 | ethanol | requires kde |
| 11:23.28 | ethanol | :< |
| 11:23.58 | hjb | ethanol: uhm, ok. but as i see it doesn't need a running x server |
| 11:24.06 | hjb | just the kde libs |
| 11:24.08 | ewet | rabbott: you can use sleep for that |
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| 11:24.30 | ethanol | it mentions both kde and kdelibs @ requirements |
| 11:24.30 | ethanol | :< |
| 11:24.43 | rabbott | ewet: how would i have the script run on user login though? |
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| 11:25.43 | zhxk | hello, how to add a user to another group, thanks |
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| 11:26.08 | hjb | ethanol: ok, the faq says it needs a running x session :-( what a crap |
| 11:26.19 | ethanol | yea :< |
| 11:27.37 | ewet | rabbott: well you can use sleep to delay your command - how you can issue your command on shell-login i have no idea ^^ sorry but there are several files associated with terminal initialization but i don't know exactly which one is read when... |
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| 11:28.20 | rabbott | ewet: thanks for the sleep idea. that would definatally work. i'm gonna try googling "run on login debian" and see if anythign comes up... thanks |
| 11:29.45 | ewet | np :-) |
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| 11:31.02 | hjb | ethanol: http://www.gruppo4.com/~tobia/pythumbnail.shtml ? |
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| 11:31.28 | hjb | ethanol: it uses a vnc server as x head, but at least you don't have to manage it by yourself ;) |
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| 11:33.04 | rabbott | ewet: would placing the command to run the shell script in .profile or .bashrc work? |
| 11:35.36 | ewet | rabbott: you tell me :-) - but i guess yes... don't rely on that however (especially if you're going to change /etc/.profile - be careful) |
| 11:36.07 | rabbott | ewet: very true.. i'm gonna try it out and see how it works :-D |
| 11:36.39 | ethanol | hjb: that one sounds nice |
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| 11:39.02 | hjb | ethanol: http://www.boutell.com/webthumb/ another one, same approach but with xvfb instead of vnc |
| 11:39.38 | hjb | ethanol: you could compare which one runs faster/more efficient and then choose it as you tool :) |
| 11:42.19 | rabbott | ewet: worked :-D |
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| 11:44.44 | ewet | rabbott: nice to know |
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| 11:49.12 | superdump | hey |
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| 11:49.38 | alaqsory | asalamu alikum |
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| 11:52.32 | jelly | Lagbolt: in X or in console? |
| 11:52.36 | Lagbolt | in X |
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| 11:55.32 | Lagbolt | hmm, what happens if i run that from xterm? wouldnt it toggle them in x as well? |
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| 11:57.48 | zwerg | Hi there. |
| 11:57.57 | Cosaco | Sup buddy |
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| 11:58.34 | Lagbolt | well time to just restart X :) |
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| 11:59.25 | zwerg | Or suggestions for chipsets that work nicely? |
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| 12:00.44 | MrWax | Does anyone know what the best tool is where I can mount a ext3 partition with automatically with Windows Vista ? |
| 12:00.47 | fireba11 | hi, i'm trying to re-add a device to a degraded raid 5 array but i get device busy. any tips? since it's a raid device it's naturally not mounted or used somewhere else of course |
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| 12:01.34 | fireba11 | aw crap .. my bad |
| 12:01.48 | fireba11 | had a type somewhere else and used the wrong volume in another raid set :-) |
| 12:01.58 | zwerg | MrWax: Have you tried ext2 ifs drivers? Works for me on XP. |
| 12:02.15 | MrWax | not yet, but there was a good tool i had last boot but kinda lost it |
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| 12:04.25 | themill | MrWax: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ (never tried it myself...) |
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| 12:17.59 | hacker_kid | anyone know where i can get an old package? i need audacity 1.2.x (6 preferably) 1.3 is beta and buggy as heck, thats all i can find in the repos |
| 12:18.23 | omid8bimo | hi, why eveytime i start my debian, kerneloops process runs?! |
| 12:19.15 | alaqsory_ | i can not mount my partitions |
| 12:19.34 | alaqsory_ | i am using debian squeeze |
| 12:19.47 | alaqsory_ | after i edited my /etc/fstab and add my partition |
| 12:19.57 | alaqsory_ | and selecting the partition to be opened a message appear |
| 12:20.00 | negge | hacker_kid: the 1.2.x series is available for download from Audacitys website |
| 12:20.05 | alaqsory_ | "you are not privileged to mount the volume 'MAIN-DISK' |
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| 12:21.02 | negge | hacker_kid: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/latest/audacity-src/audacity-src-1.2.6.tar.gz |
| 12:21.07 | hacker_kid | negge, source only, for a debian package it routes me to debian.org which only brings up the 1.3.5 package. still kinda wondering how that got through the package managers |
| 12:21.45 | hacker_kid | negge, its a real pain to install audacity from source, the wxWidgets dependency causes a lot of trouble |
| 12:21.46 | negge | hacker_kid: yeah it's weird, IMO a beta of some software doesn't belong in the stable repo. |
| 12:21.52 | hacker_kid | negge, thats what i said |
| 12:21.58 | negge | hacker_kid: hmm okay. I haven't tried it |
| 12:22.00 | steffan | How can I stop wget from trying to verify a signature on a file I'm downloading? |
| 12:22.03 | steffan | Just this once |
| 12:22.15 | abrotman | hacker_kid: what's wrong with the 1.3.x? .. i've used it a fair amount |
| 12:22.18 | hacker_kid | negge, its fine, but have like audacity-beta and audacity packages |
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| 12:22.39 | jelly | steffan: what signature? Are you accessing a https site? |
| 12:23.09 | hacker_kid | abrotman, for instance, when i merge a stereo track (from an ogg file) to an audio track then try to play it (without first saving the project, closing audacity, and opening the project) audacity immediately shuts down |
| 12:23.17 | pasky | hi, where can I download testing netinstall image? |
| 12:23.19 | dx | lot's of people prefer ssh key logins only |
| 12:23.20 | hacker_kid | to a mono track* |
| 12:23.21 | pasky | cdimage.debian.org is down |
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| 12:23.32 | steffan | jelly: I'm trying to get 'https://www.torproject.org/dist/tor-0.2.0.34.tar.gz' but when using wget it refuses because it cannot verify it |
| 12:23.40 | steffan | jelly: Can I over-ride that? |
| 12:23.42 | abrotman | hacker_kid: have you tried mving your .audacity out of the way? might be a config problem ? |
| 12:23.59 | hacker_kid | abrotman, removed it and recreated the config file |
| 12:24.04 | abrotman | pasky: it's not down |
| 12:24.06 | jelly | steffan: yes, man wget will tell you about --no-check-certificate |
| 12:24.18 | hacker_kid | abrotman, both the debian and the ubuntu box have this issue |
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| 12:24.22 | jelly | judd: info tor |
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| 12:24.25 | abrotman | hacker_kid: are you on stable or unstable? |
| 12:24.27 | steffan | jelly: Thank you :) |
| 12:24.28 | judd | jelly: tor (comm): is optional; Version: 0.2.0.34-1; Size: 1188.5k; Installed: 2552k -- anonymizing overlay network for TCP |
| 12:24.29 | jelly | judd: versions tor |
| 12:24.30 | judd | jelly: tor -- etch-backports: 0.2.0.34-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.2.0.34-1 sid: 0.2.0.34-1 squeeze: 0.2.0.34-1 experimental: 0.2.1.14-rc-1 |
| 12:24.46 | jelly | steffan: why are you downloading the source? |
| 12:24.49 | pasky | abrotman: I cannot connect to it at least |
| 12:25.01 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 12:25.02 | hacker_kid | abrotman, stable of what? the ubuntu box is 8.04 (stable lts) the deb is lenny. audacity 1.3.5 is apparently beta tho |
| 12:25.03 | abrotman | works fine here |
| 12:25.03 | steffan | jelly: I don't want to install using apt-get, that needs root so will install to root? |
| 12:25.09 | steffan | jelly: I want to install it as a regular user |
| 12:25.13 | pasky | oh |
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| 12:25.18 | pasky | hmm, seems like ipv6 problem |
| 12:25.22 | abrotman | hacker_kid: you could try to backport the packages from unstable .. might resolve some of your bugs |
| 12:25.38 | jelly | steffan: you could install it the normal way and use it as user |
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| 12:26.06 | hacker_kid | abrotman, heh i use debian so i dont have to do that junk. im sure the unstable package is in the 1.3.x line, so probably just as buggy |
| 12:26.17 | steffan | jelly: Won't sudo apt-get install tor, make it runnable by root only? |
| 12:26.31 | abrotman | judd: versions audacity |
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| 12:26.36 | judd | abrotman: audacity -- etch: 1.2.4b-2.1 lenny: 1.3.5-2+lenny1 lenny-security: 1.3.5-2+lenny1 sid: 1.3.7-2 squeeze: 1.3.7-2 |
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| 12:26.52 | hacker_kid | abrotman, it amazes me that an unstable package got in the stable repo, full of bugs, and the stable package is lost and gone forever. isnt there an archive somewhere? |
| 12:26.54 | abrotman | hacker_kid: doesn't mean your bug hasn't been fixed in the .2 versions since then |
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| 12:27.03 | Sazpaimon_ | is there a more up to date version of lighttpd somewhere? I tried uupdate on the latest tarball but it isn't building |
| 12:27.06 | jelly | steffan: that would mean all the installed packages could be used only by root... which doesn't make sense |
| 12:27.18 | hacker_kid | abrotman, LOL, even etch is running 1.2.4b so either way im running a deta |
| 12:27.20 | abrotman | hacker_kid: i haven't seen the bug you describe .. checked the BTS for open/closed bugs? |
| 12:27.20 | hacker_kid | beta* |
| 12:27.40 | hacker_kid | abrotman, i will, but where can i talk to your repo guys. whoever maintains that package must do it in their sleep |
| 12:27.58 | girga | Hey I just installed lenny. does anyone know what url I have to add to /etc/apt/sources.list so I can install fluxbox using apt-get? |
| 12:28.04 | steffan | jelly: So just install using root and run as another user? |
| 12:28.11 | abrotman | hacker_kid: you can file a bug i suppose .. yelling at the guy isn't going to help... I've been using audacity in lenny for awhile, and it hasn't crashed on me |
| 12:28.19 | jelly | steffan: yes, just like any other software? |
| 12:28.24 | abrotman | !tell girga about mirrors |
| 12:28.26 | abrotman | !tell girga about sources.list |
| 12:28.32 | steffan | jelly: Thank you :) |
| 12:28.51 | hacker_kid | abrotman, i only yell at the ubuntu repo guys :P, i was just going to politely request they backup and leave beta installations to the people who want to deal with beta bugs |
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| 12:29.07 | jelly | steffan: (well, I don't actually know whether tor works for a normal user, but installing it from source won't change that) |
| 12:29.33 | abrotman | hacker_kid: you would look at the package information to get the maintainer |
| 12:29.50 | hacker_kid | abrotman, you guys dont have a channel for the package maintainers? |
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| 12:30.05 | jelly | hacker_kid: also, if you want to find versions of packages not availabe in the repos any more, /msg dpkg sdn |
| 12:30.10 | abrotman | hacker_kid: not for the ubuntu package managers .. this is #debian |
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| 12:30.31 | hacker_kid | abrotman, i was asking for debian package maintainers. i know where i am |
| 12:30.58 | hacker_kid | jelly, a version number wont help, im looking for an archive of the package, somebody has to keep a backup |
| 12:31.00 | abrotman | hacker_kid: not really for you to whine at people like that there isn't one |
| 12:31.17 | abrotman | hacker_kid: the best way is via the BTS or emailing the maintainer directly |
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| 12:31.33 | jelly | hacker_kid: I wasn't referring to numbers when I said "versions". |
| 12:31.41 | abrotman | (though it looks like ubuntu *barely* alters the package in universal |
| 12:31.59 | girga | abrotman I have added some mirrors to my sources but I still can't apt-get fluxbox, I have a feeling i'm doing it wrong. |
| 12:32.00 | jelly | hacker_kid: rather, actual packages with said version numbers |
| 12:32.16 | abrotman | girga: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 12:33.31 | hacker_kid | jelly, http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/dists/pool/audacity < 404 :( |
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| 12:35.22 | ewet | man, flash/gnash/amd64 is such a pain in the ass :'-( let's go and hang adobe! |
| 12:35.52 | Eulex | !kill adobe |
| 12:35.52 | dpkg | rips adobe open with a rusty dagger |
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| 12:36.05 | abrotman | okay .. then don't wait ... |
| 12:36.07 | abrotman | http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/03/23/debian/pool/main/a/audacity/ |
| 12:36.20 | superlinux | ا٠|
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| 12:36.24 | superlinux | hi |
| 12:36.30 | girga | abrotman http://paste.debian.net/35190/ |
| 12:36.46 | superlinux | has anyone addressed me? i was highlighted |
| 12:36.57 | abrotman | girga: did you run `aptitude update && aptitude install fluxbox` ? |
| 12:37.18 | superlinux | ok .. nevermind |
| 12:37.21 | pav5088 | Any network admins feeling up to a challenge? A couple of guys and myself are in the process of documenting GOsa (a GUI to manage LDAP users /w Samba, Cyrus, Postfix, DNS/Bind, DHCP, Asterisk, FAI, OPSI etc...) and we could use some feedback, and help would be nice too! :) I've actually written automated scripts to automate most of the time consuming stuff (although they can be also used as documentation because they are qu |
| 12:37.21 | pav5088 | ite heavily commented). Go to http://gosa.simnix.info/ |
| 12:38.05 | pav5088 | A lot of the docs are still in the contrib section as it's still all pretty new. |
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| 12:39.32 | superlinux | pav5088: sorry bro, i mean not to be rude. but do you want us to try that software? |
| 12:39.38 | pav5088 | (GOsa is used by the cities of Munich and Paris, as well as some large companies). |
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| 12:39.50 | superlinux | aha. |
| 12:40.00 | Stanlin | enouf: thanks |
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| 12:40.29 | jelly | pav5088: which license? Freshmeat page only says GPL. |
| 12:40.42 | abrotman | pav5088: you'd probably do better asking a targeted channel instead of a distro channel |
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| 12:41.14 | pav5088 | superlinux : Well... if you're a sysadmin type who is maintaining servers it would be of interest. I'm just letting it be known so interested people can try it. |
| 12:41.19 | superlinux | abrotman: yes, you are right with that. |
| 12:41.34 | pav5088 | jelly : Yes... GPL... not sure if 2 or 3 |
| 12:41.42 | superlinux | not really brother. i wish i am. i always wish |
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| 12:41.57 | superlinux | i lost my beloved server |
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| 12:42.13 | jelly | in a bush fire |
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| 12:42.23 | jelly | 19 years ago |
| 12:42.29 | superlinux | the Xeon CPU's fired! had burning smells. |
| 12:42.44 | superlinux | i had two Unit CPU's |
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| 12:42.57 | pav5088 | abrotman : Which targetted channel? I've had a look over the list and nothing stands out. The documentation is Debian specific, and the software is only released in deb packages. The scope of services it manages is pretty large, so I'm not exactly sure which other channel I could try. |
| 12:42.58 | microtux | hi |
| 12:43.11 | Sazpaimon_ | is there a more up to date version of lighttpd somewhere? I tried uupdate on the latest tarball but it isn't building |
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| 12:43.33 | microtux | i tried to mount the cdrom, but i have this error : "mount : special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" |
| 12:43.40 | jelly | pav5088: are you pushing for it to be added to debian? |
| 12:43.48 | microtux | any suggestion ? |
| 12:44.03 | Eulex | Sazpaimon_, did you take a look in the bts? |
| 12:44.07 | jelly | pav5088: a decent AD replacement is always nice. |
| 12:44.10 | jelly | ;-) |
| 12:44.20 | pav5088 | jelly : Not really... I think the packages were in Sid for a while, but were removed. I think they need to be refactored... but that's happening anyway. |
| 12:44.40 | Sazpaimon_ | Eulex, yes, there are requests to add a more recent version that have been going on for almost a year now |
| 12:45.07 | Eulex | Sazpaimon_, ok. sometimes people post links to debs of newer versions they've built themselves. |
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| 12:45.28 | jelly | Sazpaimon_: does it build if you throw away all the bug-related patches out? |
| 12:45.37 | Sazpaimon_ | jelly, I'm about to try that now |
| 12:45.58 | Sazpaimon_ | well it's gotten to configure, that's a start |
| 12:46.08 | jelly | (that's usually my next step when a simple backport fails) |
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| 12:46.50 | pav5088 | The reason I'm mentioning it here is it is actually quite difficult for newbies to try... and we have been attempting to make it much easier. (There previously wasn't much documentation out there for integrating all these services with LDAP, and most of that wasn't GOsa specific... and the GOsa docs were fairly out of date). I don't have anything to do with the project itself... just a documentation effort. I'm actually q |
| 12:46.50 | pav5088 | uite new to the software, although I've put in quite some time into learning and documenting it. |
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| 12:47.25 | Sazpaimon_ | lighttpd_1.4.22-1_i386.deb |
| 12:47.28 | Sazpaimon_ | that's good to see |
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| 12:48.25 | pav5088 | There seem to be projects that implement a "Small Business Server" setup... but GOsa seems to be the only project that scales from small to large and is comparitively friendly (once you've passed the nightmare of setup). |
| 12:48.26 | Sazpaimon_ | A07S16:/usr/src# lighttpd -v |
| 12:48.26 | Sazpaimon_ | lighttpd-1.4.22 (ssl) - a light and fast webserver |
| 12:48.30 | Sazpaimon_ | great, it works |
| 12:48.51 | jelly | pav5088: if you convince me it's not too hard to adapt it to a preexisting custom scheme, I might give it a try |
| 12:48.58 | jelly | ;-) |
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| 12:49.36 | jelly | Sazpaimon_: now hope you didn't throw away any important fixes :-) |
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| 12:49.59 | pav5088 | jelly : Hmmm... It can be adapted... (IF you don't rely on our docs... although they would be helpful to some extent). |
| 12:50.04 | Sazpaimon_ | jelly, I'm assuming the patches have already been applied in the official upstream, considering the one in sid is over a year old |
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| 12:51.27 | microtux | i'm using Lenny, and i tried to mount the cdrom, but i have this error : "mount : special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" |
| 12:51.32 | microtux | any help ? |
| 12:51.38 | pav5088 | jelly, if you are familiar with raw LDAP you'll probably find it easier than I did. It isn't trivial though. |
| 12:51.56 | bolt-work | microtux: have you tried /dev/cdrom? |
| 12:52.36 | microtux | bolt-work, /dev/cdrom : no such file or directory |
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| 12:53.10 | microtux | mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist |
| 12:53.52 | joltcan | microtux: type dmesg and see if the device is even detected at boot |
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| 12:57.05 | microtux | joltcan, i tried a livecd to check if the cdrom is ok, and it worked |
| 12:57.36 | microtux | joltcan, i don't know how to see if the device is was detect at boot |
| 12:58.03 | microtux | and i'm sure it used to work few days ago, i don't know what happened ? :( |
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| 13:03.14 | dinnnnnnnn | hey |
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| 13:04.58 | microtux | what !! |
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| 13:06.05 | [Jasper] | hej guys |
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| 13:06.14 | [Jasper] | how can I get qmake version 4 on debian etchnhalf? |
| 13:06.40 | ranix | judd: versions qmake |
| 13:06.41 | judd | ranix: qmake -- |
| 13:06.43 | omid8bimo | hi, why eveytime i start my debian, kerneloops process runs?! |
| 13:06.52 | ranix | [Jasper]: unsure |
| 13:07.53 | jelly | [Jasper]: short answer, you can't |
| 13:08.19 | jelly | judd, versions qt4-qmake |
| 13:08.20 | judd | jelly: qt4-qmake -- lenny: 4.4.3-1 squeeze: 4.4.3-2 sid: 4.5.1-1 |
| 13:08.33 | [Jasper] | hmm |
| 13:08.34 | [Jasper] | etch? |
| 13:08.35 | [Jasper] | ::P: |
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| 13:08.58 | [Jasper] | hmm jelly, how am I gonna qmake a program then which needs qt4 ? |
| 13:09.02 | ranix | [Jasper]: dist-upgrade to lenny |
| 13:10.13 | jelly | agrees that upgrading to current debian stable would solve it |
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| 13:11.18 | themill | qt4 stuff is also in etch, but it's an oldish version. It's also quite backportable. |
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| 13:11.55 | ranix | no idea why one would want to backport from stable to oldstable |
| 13:13.25 | jelly | to run a qt4 app, duh! |
| 13:13.34 | jelly | s/run/build/ |
| 13:13.59 | jelly | themill: you think they changed package names? |
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| 13:14.46 | ranix | jelly: I mean, all the good reasons to use stable evaporate when considering oldstable |
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| 13:15.14 | themill | ranix: it's not always trivial to upgrade to stable. |
| 13:15.22 | ranix | using oldstable should be only "my hardware can't handle upgrading" or "I'm afraid to upgrade because I'm afraid of breaking something" |
| 13:16.19 | ranix | themill: the situations in which it is nontrivial are usually extreme, like clusters or mission-critical things |
| 13:16.22 | jelly | ranix: or "upgrade wasn't tested for breakage yet, and these are production machines" |
| 13:16.26 | dx | why can't firefox save pdf files that contain : or ? in the file names? |
| 13:16.43 | dx | the files appear to be savecd to location but they dont show up in the download list or in the folder |
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| 13:17.15 | ranix | jelly: is it more work to test the upgrade than to test the backport? |
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| 13:17.46 | jelly | ranix: almost always. |
| 13:17.50 | themill | jelly, [Jasper]: qmake isn't in etch but other qt4 stuff is. istr qmake was a qt4.4 thing while etch has qt4.2. I managed to backport qt 4.3 to etch at one stage of needed. |
| 13:19.21 | jelly | libqt4-dev: usr/bin/qmake-qt4 |
| 13:19.25 | jelly | \o/ |
| 13:19.38 | jelly | [Jasper]: do you have libqt4-dev installed? |
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| 13:20.16 | jelly | also, shame on me for assuming qt4 wasn't even present in etch. |
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| 13:21.14 | jelly | themill: so they really changed package names / split them up |
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| 13:21.48 | Tenkawa | I don't suppose anyone has a workaround for the libc6 kernel requirement in unstable for guests/vm's on vz, xen(older kernels), etc? |
| 13:22.01 | themill | gah.... apt-file on that etch box wasn't updated.... yes, jelly, you're right. |
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| 13:23.04 | microtux | bolt-work, joltcan it seems to be OK , i did a dpkg-reconfigure udev, the rebooted |
| 13:23.09 | microtux | thanks at all |
| 13:23.26 | jelly | Tenkawa: apart from the obvious? |
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| 13:24.00 | Tenkawa | jelly: when you are on a vz system you have no control of the hosts kernel (thus breaking the dependency) |
| 13:24.23 | jelly | Tenkawa: the _other_ obvious thing then :-) |
| 13:24.26 | Tenkawa | just didnt know if there was enough interest in a backport type libc6 update to not break a bunch of other apps |
| 13:24.29 | Tenkawa | heh |
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| 13:25.12 | jelly | uses Real Hardware (or at least Real Virtualization) |
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| 13:25.28 | Tenkawa | jelly: I do too at home |
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| 13:27.18 | jelly | Tenkawa: if you can get hold of the host kernel source and headers, _theoretically_ you might be able to rebuild glibc using those, thus evading the specific features debian's build used |
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| 13:28.55 | [Jasper] | hej guys, is there anyone who has tried to set up mumble on debian stable? |
| 13:29.21 | jelly | to set up what? Didn't quite catch that word |
| 13:29.25 | jelly | hides |
| 13:29.50 | Tenkawa | jelly: good point |
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| 13:30.05 | Tenkawa | would be slow.. but fun to try |
| 13:30.06 | Tenkawa | :) |
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| 13:30.57 | abrotman | [Jasper]: have you tried? |
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| 13:31.52 | Tenkawa | jelly: going to try it.. lets see how bad the machine will hurt |
| 13:31.52 | Tenkawa | heh |
| 13:32.25 | jelly | Tenkawa: you don't have to build it _there_ |
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| 13:32.58 | Tenkawa | jelly: yeah I know |
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| 13:33.47 | [Jasper] | abrotman I'm trying |
| 13:33.55 | abrotman | are you having a problem? |
| 13:33.58 | [Jasper] | but it has so many dependencies to qt4 |
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| 13:34.17 | abrotman | but qt4 is in lenny |
| 13:34.22 | [Jasper] | I'm running etchnhalf |
| 13:34.38 | abrotman | oh |
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| 13:35.02 | [Jasper] | so that's the problem abrotman |
| 13:35.11 | [Jasper] | and there are no precompiled packages for mumble |
| 13:35.27 | abrotman | judd: versions mumble |
| 13:35.27 | judd | abrotman: mumble -- lenny: 1.1.4-4+lenny1 squeeze: 1.1.8-1 sid: 1.1.8-2 |
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| 13:36.00 | jelly | [Jasper]: start with qt4-dev-tools and that other package mentioned above, see where it gets you |
| 13:36.04 | jamesstanley | Hi, I've fixed a bug in the package multi-aterm. How do I submit this to debian? Is there some sort of bug fixing FAQ? |
| 13:36.14 | abrotman | jamesstanley: through the BTS |
| 13:36.19 | jamesstanley | OK, thanks |
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| 13:36.31 | Tenkawa | is there an apt-get -b source argument to go by depedency order? |
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| 13:36.47 | Tenkawa | I keep getting dependency cycle errors |
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| 13:36.59 | jelly | jamesstanley: if there's a bug report already present for that package, you can just attach the patch in mail for that bug |
| 13:37.05 | jamesstanley | ok, i did that |
| 13:37.10 | dubphil | Hello, I have an old package linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 on my system that I cannot remove properly anymore by aptitude because it doesn't recognize it, how can I remove it properly ? i need place on my full disk |
| 13:37.29 | jamesstanley | jelly: i didn't attach a patch as such, i just described the one-line change in my message, is that enough or should i send it again with a proper patch attached? |
| 13:37.42 | abrotman | jamesstanley: send a proper patch |
| 13:37.44 | jamesstanley | ok |
| 13:37.45 | Eulex | dubphil, what do you mean by "doesn't recognize it"? |
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| 13:38.45 | jelly | jamesstanley: (then you can put Tags: patch in headers or the first line of the body) |
| 13:38.47 | Tenkawa | ah haa |
| 13:38.53 | jamesstanley | ok jelly |
| 13:39.20 | jelly | jamesstanley: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#additionalpseudoheaders |
| 13:39.21 | dubphil | Eulex: if I run this : # aptitude remove --purge linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686 it says (traduction from french) unable to find a package by that name |
| 13:39.31 | jamesstanley | thanks jelly |
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| 13:39.52 | Eulex | dubphil, how do you know that it's installed then? |
| 13:40.15 | dubphil | Eulex because I saw it in /usr/src |
| 13:40.30 | dubphil | I'm trying to sweep my disk |
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| 13:41.25 | dubphil | Eulex: I had also linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686 and this one was properly removed by aptitude |
| 13:41.32 | alexbodn | hello friends. how can i tell which program is currently using ttyS0?. it clashes with my upsmon |
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| 13:42.04 | Eulex | dubphil, /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-5-686/ ? |
| 13:42.05 | themill | dubphil: perhaps pastebin the output of: dpkg -l '*2.6.18-5*' | grep ^.i |
| 13:42.30 | dubphil | Eulex: yes |
| 13:42.38 | dubphil | themill: ok |
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| 13:42.52 | abrotman | alexbodn: lsof or fuser |
| 13:43.08 | alexbodn | abrotman: thanks a lot :) |
| 13:43.22 | [Jasper] | jelly I tried that |
| 13:43.26 | [Jasper] | but it still uses qt version 3.3 |
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| 13:44.19 | themill | [Jasper]: you'll need to update-alternatives for qmake and some other associated tools |
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| 13:45.28 | alexbodn | kudos abrotman: i found it:) |
| 13:45.45 | jelly | [Jasper]: "it"? |
| 13:47.04 | jamesstanley | To make a patch, I have two directories, multi-aterm-0.2.1 and multi-aterm-0.2.1-patched, and I run "diff -ruN multi-aterm-0.2.1 multi-aterm-0.2.1-patched > patch.diff" from the directory containing those directories, yes? |
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| 13:47.38 | jamesstanley | if I only changed one line on one file, should i just get a diff of those files? |
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| 13:48.10 | rudi_s | jamesstanley: Doesn't matter for the result, but much easier. Just diff the two files. |
| 13:48.16 | jamesstanley | ok |
| 13:48.27 | jamesstanley | I was wondering if there was some debian policy on taking whole tree diffs or something. Thanks. |
| 13:48.39 | yareckon | my god, have to convert over to evolution for better integration at work... |
| 13:48.45 | yareckon | overall a pretty nice client |
| 13:49.01 | yareckon | but when you have to change passwords for an account or change certificates |
| 13:49.06 | yareckon | arg!!!! |
| 13:49.19 | rudi_s | jamesstanley: To make it easier for the maintainer you could make the diff in the directory root, diff -u src/xxx/file.c.old src/xx/file.c |
| 13:49.24 | jamesstanley | ok |
| 13:49.35 | dubphil | themill: http://pastebin.com/d1c55f41f |
| 13:49.41 | jamesstanley | i'll do that |
| 13:49.45 | yareckon | lots of little helpful popups saying "failed" with no info what failed or why or how to fix |
| 13:50.00 | Rusty1 | hi , i tried to install OO3 from a downloaded .deb and it borked, deleted the .deb and used apt to remove but now http://rafb.net/p/csWBLB94.html |
| 13:50.23 | Rusty1 | how can i get rid of that? |
| 13:52.53 | themill | dubphil: odd.... what's actually left in /usr/src/linux-header-2.6.18-5-686 ? |
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| 13:53.33 | justin | Rusty1: dpkg -P ooobasis3.0-en-us ? |
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| 13:53.52 | yareckon | Rusty1, this is just a shot in the dark, but oobasis might still be there |
| 13:53.53 | yareckon | yeah |
| 13:54.07 | dubphil | themill: it left this : http://pastebin.com/d4be13fa |
| 13:54.38 | themill | dubphil: and what's in there? |
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| 13:54.51 | Rusty1 | justin: yareckon ackage is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should |
| 13:54.51 | Rusty1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.05 | dubphil | themill iin fact it was an old old install and the MOBO was change between I don't need nvidia anymore |
| 13:55.13 | Rusty1 | i guess thats my answer |
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| 13:55.44 | dubphil | themill: oups sorry I did not understand your question |
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| 14:01.00 | pasky | Is there an easy way to get documentation for all basic packages, and debugging packages for all basic libraries? Or do I have to enumerate everything? |
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| 14:01.26 | dubphil | themill: in fact the previous link will help, here is the /usr/src/linux-header-2.6.18-5-686 content : http://pastebin.com/d58b71b16 |
| 14:01.53 | jelly | pasky: not all apps are split into or have corresponding -doc and -dev packages |
| 14:01.55 | abrotman | pasky: depends on the packages .. most have their docs in /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/ ... but some have a separate -doc package with more involved docs |
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| 14:04.44 | pasky | abrotman: I mean, right now I have a line like... apt-get install binutils-doc gcc-4.3-doc manpages-dev gdb-doc glibc-doc libstdc++6-4.3-doc make-doc libgcc1-dbg libstdc++6-4.3-dbg... I'm worried that with newer glibc and gcc versions, I will lose documentation etc. again; I guess what I'm looking for is some kind of build-essential expansion metapackage like devel-environment or so... |
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| 14:05.14 | abrotman | pasky: those should get upgraded if the gcc packages do |
| 14:05.42 | abrotman | pasky: though you could use some aptitude foo to get it working .. or the debtags searching to make a list of packages |
| 14:05.54 | pasky | so if say default gcc gets upgraded to gcc-4.4, gcc-4.4-doc will be autoinstalled when gcc-4.3-doc was installed? interesting, i didn't know apt has a mechanism like that |
| 14:06.10 | abrotman | pasky: oh .. no |
| 14:06.19 | abrotman | but there is a package named 'gcc-doc' |
| 14:06.32 | abrotman | judd: versions gcc-doc |
| 14:06.32 | judd | abrotman: gcc-doc -- etch/contrib: 4:4.1.1.nf3 lenny/contrib: 5:2 sid/contrib: 5:2 squeeze/contrib: 5:2 |
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| 14:07.08 | abrotman | debtags search role::documentation |
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| 14:07.34 | abrotman | and if you actually install all of those, i'll be shocked .. seem to be thousands |
| 14:07.41 | pasky | oh... interesting - when I install build-essential, it suggests gcc-4.3-doc, if I install g++, it suggests gcc-doc, but build-essential just depends on g++, how comes? |
| 14:07.44 | pasky | is that a bug/ |
| 14:07.54 | pasky | yes, that's why I mentioned "for basic packages" ;) |
| 14:08.22 | abrotman | do you really want the -dbg for libgcc? |
| 14:08.35 | abrotman | role::documentation has ~1500 packages |
| 14:09.02 | pasky | well yes, the -dbg for libgcc is one thing I'm not really sure if I ever use |
| 14:09.30 | pasky | maybe what I'm looking for is a tasksel task for "Development Environment" that would bring all this in |
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| 14:09.53 | abrotman | you could suggest such a task |
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| 14:10.34 | [Jasper] | hej guys, how can i do a safe update from etch to lenny? |
| 14:10.38 | [Jasper] | just replace the sources? |
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| 14:11.15 | stew | [Jasper]: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 14:18.49 | zhangweiwu | Hello. Wonder why dmesg says joystick configured as /class/input/input7 while there is no /dev/js0 nor /dev/input/js0? |
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| 14:21.01 | stew | Trevelyan: you can't |
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| 14:21.56 | themill | Trevelyan: if you're convinced that it will work, then "/msg dpkg equivs". The chances of it working aren't that great though... what are you trying to do? |
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| 14:22.07 | zophy | why can't firefox view asp pages ? |
| 14:22.10 | Trevelyan | That somewhat anoying. not all packages are in emdebian, but they are compatible with there debian counterpart. |
| 14:22.11 | stew | he can't use equivs |
| 14:22.22 | themill | stew: oh? |
| 14:22.44 | stew | themill: he has foo 1.5-3em1 installed so there is no way to install another version of foo using equivs |
| 14:22.45 | Trevelyan | emdebian grip packages are debian packages with things like docs stripped out |
| 14:22.58 | stew | he needs a versioned Provides: which we still don't have |
| 14:23.15 | themill | stew: ergh... of course |
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| 14:24.29 | Trevelyan | but debians foo-dev 1.0 with depends foo = 1.0 will work with foo = 1.0em1 |
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| 14:25.28 | Trevelyan | i even tried dpkg --force-depends -i foo-dev. however apt still complains for packages that depend on foo-dev even though foo-dev is installed... |
| 14:25.32 | jelly | Trevelyan: can't you install libtag1-dev from the same place that got you libtag1c2a? |
| 14:25.51 | Trevelyan | its not available in emdebian |
| 14:26.08 | stew | Trevelyan: yes, --force-depends only forced the depends for THAT ONE transaction, it will still complain about the dependency problem at every subsequent transation until it is fixed |
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| 14:26.13 | jelly | then emdebian is broken? |
| 14:26.30 | Trevelyan | so i source emdebian first, and then debian second for things not there which works ok except for things like this |
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| 14:26.58 | jelly | !emdebian |
| 14:26.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, emdebian is a project focused on extending Debian's reach into the embedded space; it is an independent project and not formally associated with the Debian distribution [yet]. It aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded Linux. Check out http://www.emdebian.org/ as well as http://familiar.handhelds.org/ or #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:26.59 | nkuttler | Trevelyan: after --force inserting it, doesn't a apt-get -f install pull in what's needed? |
| 14:27.01 | jelly | Trevelyan: tried asking in theit channel? |
| 14:27.12 | jelly | their* |
| 14:27.17 | Trevelyan | they don't have one |
| 14:27.24 | Trevelyan | oh wait |
| 14:27.25 | jelly | Trevelyan: that's not what dpkg says |
| 14:27.27 | Trevelyan | oftc |
| 14:27.38 | jelly | yup :-| |
| 14:28.49 | Trevelyan | I would like foo 1.0em1 and foo-dev 1.0 installed and all that depends on them to be happy |
| 14:29.47 | [Jasper] | hej guys, trying to update to lenny, getting the following error |
| 14:29.48 | [Jasper] | http://pastebin.com/m64c4911c |
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| 14:29.58 | jelly | Trevelyan: the easiest (but not the smartest) thing to do could be to munge /var/lib/dpkg/status and make dpkg think it really is 1.0 that is installed. |
| 14:30.12 | jelly | Trevelyan: I did not tell you this. |
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| 14:32.06 | [Jasper] | anyone? |
| 14:32.08 | alexbodn | bye friends |
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| 14:32.36 | ranix | [Jasper]: I took a look, but I do not understand that one |
| 14:33.07 | justin | [Jasper]: what is libdes425-3? |
| 14:33.16 | stew | [Jasper]: you are trying to downgrade from testing/unstable to stable? |
| 14:33.38 | ranix | stew: iirc, etchnhalf to lenny |
| 14:33.53 | stew | ranix: an etch/testing/unstable mix then? |
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| 14:34.01 | justin | !+info libdes425-3 |
| 14:34.03 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 14:34.20 | ranix | stew: his original question was "how do I install qmake 4 in etchnhalf" |
| 14:34.24 | dpkg | libdes425-3: (MIT Kerberos runtime libraries - OLD DES API), section libs, is standard. Version: 1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-13 (sid), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 100 kB |
| 14:34.26 | [Jasper] | no steew |
| 14:34.32 | [Jasper] | I'm going from etchnhalf to lenny |
| 14:34.39 | [Jasper] | stew even |
| 14:34.50 | justin | [Jasper]: where the hell did you get libdes425-3 from? |
| 14:34.55 | stew | [Jasper]: except you have packages installed which are not in either etchnhalf or lenny, but are in testing/unstable |
| 14:35.04 | stew | judd: versions libdes425-3 |
| 14:35.04 | judd | stew: libdes425-3 -- sid: 1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-13 squeeze: 1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-13 |
| 14:35.29 | [Jasper] | hmmm |
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| 14:35.46 | [Jasper] | is thinking |
| 14:36.10 | stew | [Jasper]: what version of libc6 do you have installed? |
| 14:36.28 | Trevelyan | thanks stew, jelly. |
| 14:36.33 | [Jasper] | dl-gam01:/etc/apt# dpkg -l | grep libc6 |
| 14:36.33 | [Jasper] | ii libc6 2.9-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 14:36.33 | [Jasper] | ii libc6-i686 2.9-4 GNU C Library: Shared libraries [i686 optimi |
| 14:36.40 | stew | judd: versions libc6 |
| 14:36.41 | judd | stew: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-4 sid: 2.9-9 |
| 14:36.41 | jelly | that's not etch |
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| 14:36.52 | jelly | [Jasper]: you're not in Kansas any more |
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| 14:37.33 | stew | [Jasper]: if you want to be running lenny aka stable, I'd suggest reinstalling. you've upgraded to testing/unstable, and there isn't a safe/easy way back |
| 14:37.35 | [Jasper] | hmm, I'm thinking, might have something to do with the vmware I testeed |
| 14:37.45 | [Jasper] | I never did a distupgrade |
| 14:37.46 | [Jasper] | to testing |
| 14:38.16 | stew | [Jasper]: then you did 'upgrade' and 'install' to testing |
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| 14:38.31 | [Jasper] | only to etchnhalf stefankoff |
| 14:38.33 | [Jasper] | stew |
| 14:39.17 | stew | [Jasper]: if you run 'apt-get upgrade' or "apt-get install" with your sources pointing to testing/unstable/sqeeze/sid it would upgrade (at least partially) you to testing/unstable |
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| 14:46.43 | netsrot | Hi, is there a channel for iceweasel? I wanna know if the possibility to select filemanager for Download manager "Open Folder" button is an iceweasel only feature and if it will be supported in future version. |
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| 14:47.08 | herrfuhrer | ey wtf ?! |
| 14:47.14 | herrfuhrer | wrong channel |
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| 14:49.20 | pasky | what do I need to do to make debian notice changes in /etc/network/interfaces? since /etc/init.d/networking restart has no effect |
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| 14:49.25 | stew | netsrot: i don't think there is an iceweasel channel. here is probably your best bet |
| 14:49.28 | alex_anders | Hi how i can upgrade my desktop environment to KDE 4.2.2 ? |
| 14:49.35 | stew | pasky: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 14:49.44 | stew | pasky: what changes did you make? |
| 14:49.51 | pasky | oh, never mind, I forgot an "auto eth1" line :) |
| 14:49.53 | tech404 | Is there something similar to dpkg -S that will work with packages that are not installed? To be used for example when I know a command that I want to use but don't know the name of the package that provides it. |
| 14:49.54 | pasky | sorry for the noise |
| 14:50.04 | stew | tech404: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 14:50.41 | jelly | tech404: also, /msg dpkg find bin/zsh |
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| 14:51.08 | jelly | tech404: (replace bin/zsh with whatever) |
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| 14:51.45 | tech404 | jelly, stew : thanks! |
| 14:52.07 | alex_anders | how i can upgrade from KDE 3.5.5 to latest ? |
| 14:52.23 | steffan | netsrot: #iceweasel |
| 14:52.31 | steffan | netsrot: but it isn't all that big :) |
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| 14:53.08 | tech404 | alex_anders, The latest in the repos, or just the latest one period? |
| 14:53.11 | jelly | alex_anders: which debian release are you using? |
| 14:53.21 | alex_anders | Lenny |
| 14:53.32 | jelly | alex_anders: there's no official kde4 for lenny |
| 14:53.51 | alex_anders | and for testing release ? |
| 14:55.00 | martian67_ | alex_anders, backporting something that large |
| 14:55.07 | martian67_ | is issue prone and dangerous |
| 14:55.51 | alex_anders | debian its my experimental os :) dont have here necessery documents or data so ist ok :) |
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| 15:00.51 | alex_anders | ah ok i learned backporst :) |
| 15:02.41 | alex_anders | jelly: can you say me correct command for installing KDE4.2.2 via backports ? i tried google but i cant do it without help :X |
| 15:02.48 | kanon-mat | wouldn't it be easier to upgrade lenny, alex_anders? |
| 15:02.59 | abrotman | alex_anders: ask #debian-kde |
| 15:03.21 | alex_anders | kancerman: update lenny to sqeeze ? |
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| 15:03.53 | kanon-mat | i was thinking to sid |
| 15:04.09 | jelly | alex_anders: I don't think there are any backports from debian people |
| 15:04.22 | abrotman | kanon-mat: please do not suggest that |
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| 15:04.48 | kanon-mat | ok, |
| 15:05.06 | kanon-mat | listen to abrotman |
| 15:05.23 | themill | alex_anders: the only place that I've seen kde4.2 stuff for lenny is http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/kde42/ but I can't tell you how good or bad the packages are. |
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| 15:06.11 | abrotman | is 4.1.x not good enough for some reason ? |
| 15:06.15 | stew | alex_anders: do you really need 4.2? there are 4.1 backports |
| 15:06.24 | stew | (at kde4.debian.net) |
| 15:07.10 | themill | there will be no security support (at all) for the kde41 backports.... |
| 15:07.11 | alex_anders | stew: ok can you explain me how i can install it ? |
| 15:08.48 | stew | alex_anders: see the "how to use these backports" section of http://kde4.debian.net/ |
| 15:09.06 | alex_anders | thank you |
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| 15:12.45 | alex_anders | stew: again thank you im installing :) |
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| 15:16.15 | spal | hi. I need some help to troubleshoot this. When I insert my USB disk into the USB slot, the disk is no longer automounted. I am using Squeeze and I aptitude upgrade daily. |
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| 15:16.59 | cahoot | spal: already consulted BTS? |
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| 15:17.08 | spal | no. let me check |
| 15:19.12 | jelly | cahoot: which package would one hold responsible for that issue? |
| 15:19.39 | patrikf | #350639, #520501, #525183 |
| 15:19.48 | cahoot | one of the packages updated last? |
| 15:20.18 | jelly | it's not like one can search bts for +usb +key +automount |
| 15:20.31 | abrotman | you can |
| 15:20.36 | jelly | where? |
| 15:20.59 | abrotman | if it still works: http://merkel.debian.org/~don/cgi/search.cgi |
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| 15:21.14 | abrotman | or google :) |
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| 15:22.16 | jelly | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=usb+automount+site%3Abugs.debian.org seems to even have a decent order |
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| 15:23.00 | spal | #525813 is the issue I am having. |
| 15:23.10 | RichiH | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.29 | RichiH | i suspect this is due to NFS taking too long, but how can i find out which processes are at fault? |
| 15:23.41 | justin | RichiH: most likely the procs are stuck in the D state |
| 15:23.48 | spal | what is g-v-m? gnome volume manager? |
| 15:24.00 | RichiH | i was just about to ask if it were the D state processes :) |
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| 15:24.08 | RichiH | !g-v-m |
| 15:24.23 | RichiH | !test |
| 15:24.23 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 15:24.38 | jelly | hm, found a bug in my convert #numbers to urls irc script |
| 15:25.04 | spal | jelly, where do you host your script? |
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| 15:25.50 | jelly | spal: in the irc client. |
| 15:26.03 | spal | oh, o |
| 15:26.05 | spal | ok |
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| 15:27.01 | spal | how to ask dpkg about the status of a particular package in testing and sid. like which version is currently in sid and which one in squeeze. |
| 15:27.14 | spal | also is there a Debian web page showing all this info? or any command in Debian to show this info? |
| 15:27.18 | jelly | judd: versions gnome-volume-manager |
| 15:27.18 | judd | jelly: gnome-volume-manager -- etch: 1.5.15-1+b1 lenny: 2.22.1-1 sid: 2.24.1-2 squeeze: 2.24.1-2 |
| 15:27.34 | RichiH | kicks the box |
| 15:27.48 | spal | cool. so this is done by judd, not dpkg. other ways to see the same info? web page or command? |
| 15:27.49 | RichiH | can i somehow show where the NFS bottle-neck is? |
| 15:27.57 | jelly | spal: packages.debian.org/packagename |
| 15:27.59 | RichiH | local settings, remote settings, whatever |
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| 15:29.42 | spal | wow! so nautilus 2.24 has entered squeeze. can I also see the date when this happened? |
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| 15:30.29 | stew | spal: http://packages.qa.debian.org/nautilus |
| 15:30.30 | spal | oops! I read the wrong thing. sorry. ignore the previous message. |
| 15:30.32 | stew | spal: but no, it hasn't |
| 15:30.46 | stew | but that is where you would find out when |
| 15:31.04 | spal | yes, thanks. |
| 15:31.35 | spal | qa stands for quality assurance? |
| 15:31.44 | stew | yes |
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| 15:33.42 | gigo | hi. can I submit my own package to Debian? Will Debian accept my package and make it available in the Debian repository? |
| 15:34.06 | stew | gigo: you need to find someone that is a debian developer to sponsor your packages and upload them for you |
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| 15:34.44 | gigo | so will any package by me be accepted or the sponsor will judge whether my package is useful or not? I guess, he will judge. please confirm. |
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| 15:35.40 | stew | gigo: the sponsor would be thoroughly checking the packages before he or she is willing to up load them |
| 15:35.45 | themill | gigo: the quality of the packaging and your on-going willingness to maintain the package in debian are also important. |
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| 15:37.28 | RichiH | jelly: as you tend to know the most obscure stuff, any hints on nfs debugging? |
| 15:37.51 | jelly | hides |
| 15:38.02 | RichiH | hate nfs as much as i do? |
| 15:38.14 | jelly | RichiH: it usually "just works", except when it doesn't |
| 15:38.19 | RichiH | hehe |
| 15:38.47 | jelly | RichiH: and when it tends not to, I mount it with intr option so the lingering processes can be killed off |
| 15:39.02 | RichiH | intr? |
| 15:39.04 | RichiH | googles |
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| 15:40.01 | RichiH | do i need to specify this on both server & client side? |
| 15:40.05 | RichiH | or just client? |
| 15:40.20 | jelly | man nfs, too |
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| 15:40.41 | jelly | just the client (else I'd say an export option) |
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| 15:42.02 | jelly | RichiH: I'm not sure if lsof -n /mount/point will block or not |
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| 15:42.32 | pred2k3 | hi, what ftp server do you advise? |
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| 15:43.21 | jelly | pred2k3: probably vsftpd if you're not sure |
| 15:43.32 | gigo | is the /etc/fstab file in Debian created automatically? was it created by the Debian installer? |
| 15:43.51 | jelly | pred2k3: or eschew ftp totally and use sftp/scp instead |
| 15:44.07 | pred2k3 | what about proftpd? |
| 15:44.45 | spal | I have used proftpd. works fine for small needs of mine. |
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| 15:45.00 | stew | pred2k3: its very popular, but doesn't have the greatest recent security track record |
| 15:45.13 | pandator | how do I install local .deb files that I downloaded from 3rd parties? |
| 15:45.21 | pred2k3 | does vsftpd support virtual users? |
| 15:45.29 | rudi_s | pandator: dpkg -i |
| 15:45.33 | stew | pred2k3: dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 15:45.37 | stew | pandator: ^^ |
| 15:45.41 | jelly | pred2k3: if you don't require some of the features, don't use proftpd |
| 15:45.42 | rudi_s | pandator: Maybe look at them with dpkg -x first. |
| 15:45.43 | pandator | rudi_s: thanks |
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| 15:45.53 | rudi_s | pandator: np |
| 15:46.00 | pred2k3 | I only need a lightweight ftp server with virtual users support |
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| 15:46.10 | stew | pandator: if it complains about missing dependencies, "aptitude -f install" should fix the dependencies |
| 15:46.11 | pandator | thank you too stew |
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| 15:46.26 | MrWax | I have tested the app that should be able to mount an ext3 partition when I use windows vista, called Ext2 IFS 1.11a - but it doesn't work. When I click on the extra added drive that comes up after rebooting, I still get "Do you want to format this disc? etc" does anyone know how to get around this or a good tool that is able to mount (with read/write) a ext3 debian drive properly? |
| 15:46.41 | rudi_s | pred2k3: Why not ssh/sftp as jelly suggested? |
| 15:46.41 | gigo | is the /etc/fstab file in Debian created automatically? was it created by the Debian installer? |
| 15:47.00 | jelly | rudi_s: does it support virtual (non unix) users? |
| 15:47.01 | stew | MrWax: this isn't the right channel for help with windows, try ##winodws |
| 15:47.10 | stew | gigo: the debian installer does create a /etc/fstab |
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| 15:47.26 | pred2k3 | rudi_s cause ppl dont always have an scp client on pc |
| 15:47.31 | rudi_s | jelly: Not sure, but don't think so. |
| 15:47.41 | rudi_s | pred2k3: k, you're right. |
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| 15:48.12 | democrite | Hi. |
| 15:48.21 | jelly | MrWax: there's another well known free driver at fs-driver.org |
| 15:48.27 | gigo | hi democrite |
| 15:48.57 | jelly | MrWax: oh, that's what you already use |
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| 15:49.04 | democrite | Is there a way to make a screenshot of a web page with a cli software ? I'd like to make screenshots from a box without X, is that possible ? |
| 15:49.07 | MrWax | jelly: correct |
| 15:49.41 | jelly | MrWax: there are commercial solutions too |
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| 15:50.09 | Baum | hi .. i have a python nagios script. check_syncrepl.py which needs a password .. the password eg. looks like that --password=_ghH.2349P$hH! .. how do i escape the ! in bash. i tried "_ghH.2349P$hH"\!"" "_ghH.2349P$hH\!" but that doesnt work. |
| 15:50.23 | jelly | Baum: use single quotes |
| 15:51.02 | jelly | Baum: (or escape both $ and !) |
| 15:51.07 | Baum | jelly that doesnt work either i tried '_ghH.2349P$hH"\!"' '_ghH.2349P$hH\!' '_ghH.2349P$hH!' |
| 15:51.40 | jelly | oh... python! |
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| 15:51.44 | Baum | yes |
| 15:52.03 | jelly | still thinks single quotes ought to work |
| 15:52.16 | Kazuha | I'm looking for a program to convert shift-jis filenames to UTF-8. |
| 15:52.36 | jelly | Baum: echo '_ghH.2349P$hH!' does the right thing in my interactive bash shell |
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| 15:53.12 | spal | echo -password=foo! works fine for me. |
| 15:54.25 | jelly | Baum: does it work when you run your command line in a terminal? |
| 15:54.27 | Baum | jelly yes that works but the python script now says that i didnt provide a password at all |
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| 15:54.48 | spal | Baum, and so does: echo --password=_ghH.2349P\$hH! |
| 15:54.52 | jelly | ./check_syncrepl.py [...] --password='_ghH.2349P$hH!' [...] |
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| 15:55.09 | stew | spal: they wouldt' work fine in other shells |
| 15:55.39 | spal | Baum, I wonder why you haven't escaped $ ? |
| 15:56.29 | spal | stew, would echo --password=_ghH.2349P\$hH\! work ? |
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| 15:56.58 | felix_ | has anyone done the upgrade from 4 to 5? |
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| 15:57.45 | Baum | spal jelly tried all of the above now. the script says that there is no password ... maybe now there is something else |
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| 15:59.17 | stew | felix_: thousands of people |
| 15:59.39 | stew | spal: yes, i'm guessing the problem is that he needs to escape things twice, but I'm not paying close attention |
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| 16:00.27 | Kevin` | how do I get the stock kernel configuration for a kernel I don't have installed? |
| 16:00.32 | Baum | im sorry.... i needed to provide a password for the consumer ldap too... |
| 16:00.33 | Baum | there is -p -P ... both are needed even if the same |
| 16:00.38 | Baum | thx guys ... |
| 16:01.05 | jelly | Baum: pastebin the command line and the output when you run the script manually in command line |
| 16:01.06 | valdyn | spal: ! is tricky |
| 16:01.12 | jelly | ah. |
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| 16:02.40 | Kevin` | nobody? |
| 16:03.14 | gigo | hi. I checked all my mount settings but my USB disk won't mount when I insert it. any help? |
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| 16:03.33 | felix_ | gigo: try fdisk -l or lsusb |
| 16:04.18 | gigo | felix_, /dev/sdb1 is shown there |
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| 16:04.41 | themill | Kevin`: all of it? or just look up a couple of things prior to installing it? |
| 16:05.04 | spal | gigo, are you using testing (squeeze). I had the same problem. here is the bug report page : http://bugs.debian.org/525183 |
| 16:05.04 | Kevin` | themill: all of it |
| 16:05.14 | Kevin` | themill: it's just a short text file.. |
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| 16:05.53 | gigo | yes I am using testing. can someone help me then to mount my disk manually? I did mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk but the disk is not writeable by all. |
| 16:06.16 | themill | Kevin`: if 4000-odd lines is short, then yes, it's short. You can grab the .deb and extract it from the .deb yourself. |
| 16:06.42 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the query for finding out which package contains a specific command (eg dig) |
| 16:06.51 | Kevin` | themill: it doesn't seem to be in the .deb file |
| 16:07.11 | amphi | jpinx-eeepc: apt-file |
| 16:07.27 | Kevin` | linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64_2.6.26-15_amd64.deb ? |
| 16:07.28 | jpinx-eeepc | amphi: thanks :) |
| 16:07.35 | Kazuha | Can anyone tell me what zip stores Japanese encoded filenames as in MSOS? |
| 16:07.53 | Kazuha | (As in, what character encoding). |
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| 16:08.03 | felix_ | gigo: so it mounts in read only? |
| 16:08.11 | themill | Kevin`: it is -- it's stored as /boot/config-$(uname-r) |
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| 16:08.17 | felix_ | gigo: i had same problem check solution http://felipeferreira.net/?p=393 |
| 16:08.17 | gigo | gigo, yes. if I mount it using the 'mount' command. |
| 16:08.23 | gigo | oops felix_ ^ |
| 16:08.24 | felix_ | i gtg |
| 16:08.30 | valdyn | Kazuha: why would zip care about character encoding? |
| 16:08.36 | gigo | thanks felix_ |
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| 16:08.53 | Kevin` | themill: if I install it, yes. but it doesn't seem to be in the .deb file |
| 16:09.02 | jpinx-eeepc | amphi: that's a separate package in itself:( |
| 16:09.02 | jelly | valdyn: interoperability! |
| 16:09.07 | Kazuha | It shouldn't, but I have a bunch of files that were in zips, but come out as garbage. |
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| 16:09.27 | valdyn | must be a windows thing |
| 16:09.43 | jelly | Kazuha: you're asking which encoding windows uses for japanese |
| 16:09.49 | jelly | ...in filenames |
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| 16:10.26 | hark | Kevin`: http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij/2.6.26-15/amd64/config-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64.gz |
| 16:10.27 | valdyn | Kazuha: you do actually have locale set to something japanes and can see japanese characters normally? |
| 16:10.32 | Kazuha | I figured that would be likely one of the cases. |
| 16:10.37 | gigo | can anyone give me a proper command to mount a FAT32 USB disk so that I can read as well as write to the disk as any user? |
| 16:10.53 | cahoot | gigo: using gnome? |
| 16:10.54 | stew | gigo: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 16:10.58 | jelly | Kazuha: are you trying to unzip on Linux, or to zip on Linux and make it come out all nice in windows? |
| 16:11.02 | gigo | cahoot, yes |
| 16:11.10 | Kevin` | hark: I assume that's just from your system after install? |
| 16:11.19 | cahoot | gigo: gconf-editor |
| 16:11.20 | Kazuha | Unzip on Linux. |
| 16:11.29 | hark | Kevin`: no |
| 16:11.29 | jelly | Kazuha: if the former, can you provide an example zip? |
| 16:11.46 | Kevin` | hark: oh. where'd that come from then |
| 16:11.50 | hark | Kevin`: /msg dpkg kernel config |
| 16:12.03 | cahoot | gigo: gconf-editor->system->storage->default options->vfat, add umask=0 or so |
| 16:12.35 | Kevin` | with make oldconfig it's still asking me some questions. maybe I grabbed the source wrong |
| 16:13.01 | Kazuha | jelly -- every zip here http://www35.atwiki.jp/moemon |
| 16:13.14 | valdyn | i see zip can optionally convert file names and paths to utf-8, guess default is simply storing whatever the system provides |
| 16:14.03 | gigo | stew, if I am using a command to mount, where should I put these options: vfat defaults,user,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0 ? |
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| 16:15.02 | stew | gigo: you can omit vfat and add the rest after -o |
| 16:15.03 | Kevin` | ok then, how do I get the source for a specific kernel? |
| 16:15.28 | jelly | Kazuha: I'm quite unable to navigate that site, not knowing the language. :-) A direct URL? |
| 16:15.59 | valdyn | jelly: the table at the bottom has zips |
| 16:16.30 | gigo | for me that site shows all boxes. no japanese text. |
| 16:16.37 | Kazuha | Basically (excluding one that 404s) anything by the red box with 'FR' in it. |
| 16:16.57 | jelly | hopes it's not loli |
| 16:17.07 | ajavid | is it possible to install a i386 .deb from pdo and run it using linux32 on amd64 ? (specifically ZSNES -- snes9x is not too good) |
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| 16:17.27 | Kazuha | O_O; The site is UTF-8. |
| 16:17.36 | ajavid | would I have to force arch. or is there a way to install i386 packages in amd64? |
| 16:17.42 | Kazuha | They're IPS patches. |
| 16:17.53 | nkuttler | ajavid: uhm, isn't there a amd64 build for that package? |
| 16:17.59 | ajavid | no, there can't be |
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| 16:18.05 | nkuttler | ajavid: why not? |
| 16:18.08 | jelly | Kazuha: unzip -v mm1144.zip | iconv -f shift-jis -t utf-8 - ... almost works |
| 16:18.24 | ajavid | nkuttler, zsnes uses x86 assembly code directly something to do with that anyway, it has to be run in x86 mode |
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| 16:19.12 | whoracle | yeah ice weasle sucks |
| 16:19.19 | whoracle | can't even send email with hot mail |
| 16:19.24 | whoracle | but firefox on windows does. |
| 16:19.28 | gigo | I get this error: mount -o "defaults,user,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb/ |
| 16:19.28 | gigo | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:19.28 | whoracle | linux shit. |
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| 16:19.35 | nkuttler | ajavid: no idea then |
| 16:20.05 | Kevin` | ajavid: force arch for that specific package WILL work btw, i've done it. make sure you have ia32-libs or whatever installed. |
| 16:20.09 | jelly | Kazuha: so apparently the encoding is shift-jis |
| 16:20.10 | gigo | whoracle, can you describe exactly what happens when you try to send mail. I am able to use it to send mails. |
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| 16:20.17 | ajavid | Kevin`, yes, I do |
| 16:20.25 | ajavid | Kevin`, fantastic, I was going to try it anyway |
| 16:20.26 | ajavid | :) |
| 16:20.30 | jelly | gigo: it's a troll, and it's been quieted |
| 16:20.38 | gigo | ok |
| 16:21.03 | gigo | any help for my mount error? 'wrong fs type' ? when I do just mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb it works fine. why? |
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| 16:21.39 | jelly | gigo: and if you add the correct -t fstype ? |
| 16:21.45 | cahoot | gigo: now if you use gnome why not use it? |
| 16:21.52 | ajavid | so its an ext3 most probably, try file -s /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:21.55 | jelly | gigo: which filesystem is it? |
| 16:22.02 | ajavid | gigo, and then mount -t whatever fs type it reprots |
| 16:22.24 | gigo | cahoot, that worked fine. thanks. now I just want to learn it. If I am using Debian, I should at least know how to mount a disk properly. :-) it might help someday. |
| 16:22.31 | jelly | gigo: also, "defaults" and "user" only make sense in fstab |
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| 16:22.54 | jelly | gigo: and "0 0" are not mount options ;-) |
| 16:23.19 | ajavid | Kevin`, any sound issues I should be worried about, x86 to x86_64 sound stuff that the x86 package may depend on |
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| 16:23.28 | ajavid | Kevin`, did you have sound? or did you have to do anything special? |
| 16:23.28 | jelly | gigo: ... and I hope that "USERID" and "GROUPID" bit wasn't literal |
| 16:23.50 | ajavid | nah |
| 16:23.50 | Kevin` | ajavid: I have it working fully, I forget exactly what was required but I don't recall it bieng hard |
| 16:24.00 | ajavid | word |
| 16:24.07 | ajavid | I just bought a new joypad I wanna test it out |
| 16:24.13 | gigo | mount -o "umask=002" /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb/ works fine |
| 16:24.36 | gigo | mount -o "user=gigo,gid=gigo,umask=002" /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb/ does not work fine. |
| 16:24.41 | Kevin` | ajavid: http://rafb.net/p/4gHmrm99.html - if that helps |
| 16:24.46 | gigo | my user name is gigo. is my above command wrong? |
| 16:25.17 | Kevin` | ajavid: mm, odd that it's in local, I wonder what I did to get that |
| 16:25.25 | jelly | gigo: uid= and gid= require numeric values |
| 16:25.47 | jelly | gigo: run "id", use the numbers there |
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| 16:25.51 | gigo | ok, if I don't give uid and gid any harm? |
| 16:25.53 | ajavid | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.54 | Kevin` | ajavid: you can have that file if you want, if it comes down to it. I wonder where it came from. either source or a debian package |
| 16:26.14 | ajavid | it should be fine |
| 16:26.16 | jelly | gigo: the filesystem will likely be only writable by root then |
| 16:26.27 | darkbulb | I am having a problem with grub - all it displays is an error 15 followed by a system halt google has shown this to be a file not found error. Debian's install routine installed grub on the mbr of the first drive. Hard disks are configured as follows: sata channel 0 is the drive with debian on it the ide channel has two additional hard disks with no data on them ( formatted ext3 by Debian... |
| 16:26.29 | darkbulb | ...install ) and channel 1 sata is my dvdrw. |
| 16:26.31 | valdyn | gigo: the options user stands alone and means that any non-root user can mount |
| 16:26.38 | thechef | Is there a tool to monitor a file or a directory regularly about it's size including how fast it grows? |
| 16:26.58 | valdyn | gigo: gid should be a numeric value just like uid |
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| 16:27.16 | gigo | valdyn, on the contrary I see that only root is able to write it as jelly said. let me try with uid and gid to see if anything changes. |
| 16:27.21 | darkbulb | its obvious channel 0 is not the first drive how do I figure out which drive is correct and fix grub |
| 16:27.37 | valdyn | gigo: i think i clearly said "mount", not "write" |
| 16:27.54 | cahoot | darkbulb: the device.map in /boot/grub might be useful to look at |
| 16:28.15 | gigo | valdyn, I did not understand. as a non root user, the mount command does not obey any of my mount requests. |
| 16:28.19 | darkbulb | problem is I CANT BOOT THE BOX |
| 16:28.25 | darkbulb | I cant boot the box |
| 16:28.28 | valdyn | gigo: your options are fucked up |
| 16:28.30 | cahoot | livecd? |
| 16:28.31 | gigo | valdyn, I am not working with /etc/fstab. I have no /etc/fstab entry for usb disk. |
| 16:28.37 | jelly | !grub error 15 |
| 16:28.37 | dpkg | For grub error 15, see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml |
| 16:28.43 | valdyn | gigo: i said that the "user" option needs to stand alone, but thats not your only mistake |
| 16:28.46 | enouf | !grub errors |
| 16:28.46 | dpkg | from memory, grub.errors is grub error X? go to http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Troubleshooting.html#Troubleshooting to find out what it means |
| 16:29.17 | valdyn | gigo: the user option is pointless outside fstab |
| 16:29.22 | gigo | ok |
| 16:29.32 | \amethyst | gigo: if something isn't in fstab, you can't mount it as a normal user using the "mount" command |
| 16:29.40 | darkbulb | ive got the halfbaked shell neinstall porvides |
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| 16:30.14 | enouf | gigo: i'm jumping in late here, but many BIOSes automatically rearrange the Disk Order when a (disk type / bootable?) USB device is attached |
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| 16:30.52 | jelly | enouf: darkbulb? |
| 16:31.05 | JyZyXEL | is there a way to force rebuilding of all parity data in RAID5 array if you suspect it has been compromised by a power outage at the write time? |
| 16:31.06 | enouf | jelly: likely more apropos |
| 16:31.54 | gigo | jelly, valdyn , enouf , mount -o "uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002" /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb/ worked. thanks for the help. |
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| 16:32.07 | themill | grub error 15: File not found This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK. |
| 16:32.07 | enouf | darkbulb: i'd use grub shell and tab completion and/or "find /boot/grub/stage1" or use a hexeditor or strings and grep the /dev/name |
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| 16:32.33 | darkbulb | how do i break into a grub shell from stage 1.5 |
| 16:33.05 | Kevin` | JyZyXEL: yes. it's automatically done periodically by I think a cron job? i've never tried to force it though |
| 16:33.16 | eurythmia | what's the latest sid kernel version? |
| 16:33.17 | darkbulb | bios simply falls through to hdd and halts |
| 16:33.19 | enouf | darkbulb: you can get there from the menu .. do you get that far? if not, use a livecd boot or something |
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| 16:33.48 | enouf | (you'd hit ESC key, IIRC, offhand, i forget now) |
| 16:33.50 | jelly | JyZyXEL: do you want /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray ? |
| 16:34.07 | eurythmia | enouf, depends on the bios. Older ones used esc by convention |
| 16:34.15 | JyZyXEL | jelly i don't know, do it? |
| 16:34.18 | JyZyXEL | do i* |
| 16:34.28 | enouf | read it JyZyXEL |
| 16:34.32 | JyZyXEL | k |
| 16:34.45 | eurythmia | popular buttons to try for selecting boot device are: F2 and F12 |
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| 16:34.50 | enouf | erm .. see /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* as well JyZyXEL |
| 16:35.06 | JyZyXEL | no i think this file is enough |
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| 16:35.08 | enouf | eurythmia: no, this is different .. i know what you mean |
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| 16:35.23 | eurythmia | ach so. |
| 16:35.24 | JyZyXEL | but why isn't it in /usr/sbin? |
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| 16:35.52 | enouf | eurythmia: once the menu comes up, the BIOS has already handed off control to the bootloader (in this case grub) (basically) |
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| 16:36.05 | eurythmia | enouf, oh, you're talking about the grub menu. my bad. |
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| 16:36.11 | enouf | yes .. no worries |
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| 16:36.25 | eurythmia | yeah, you can hit any key to pause it, and I think it's e to edit a menu entry |
| 16:36.37 | JyZyXEL | sudo ln -s /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray /usr/sbin/checkarray |
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| 16:36.39 | eurythmia | or c for a command line |
| 16:36.53 | darkbulb | and b to boot whatever you changed after e |
| 16:36.59 | eurythmia | yep. |
| 16:37.18 | eurythmia | remembers the good/bad old days with lilo |
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| 16:38.57 | eurythmia | is thinking about upgrading to SID |
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| 16:39.51 | eurythmia | et, duly noted. no worries. |
| 16:39.56 | enouf | eurythmia: darkbulb yes, 'c' 'e' and 'e' are all well and good .. still not what i'm talking about, and still not going to get you to grub's shell .. well, 'c' might, then ESC to return? i told you i forget offhand :-P |
| 16:40.42 | darkbulb | I will boot it with knoppix |
| 16:41.11 | enouf | aha! Press `ESC' to enter the menu... %d |
| 16:41.11 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:41.28 | enouf | $ strings /boot/grub/stage2 | less ftw :-p |
| 16:41.33 | eurythmia | et, I'm just looking to run the brand spanking newest kernel, and stuff that is meant to go with it. |
| 16:41.42 | darkbulb | :) thanks enouf |
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| 16:42.24 | gigo | how is it that even though my /etc/fstab does not have any entry for /dev/sdb1, still gnome-volume-manager auto-mounts it whenever I insert my usb disk? |
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| 16:43.01 | \amethyst | gnome-volume-manager goes through hal, and works independently of fstab |
| 16:43.45 | enouf | \amethyst: how about pmount? |
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| 16:44.14 | enouf | or .. is that part of the g-v-m and hal + dbus chain? |
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| 16:44.40 | stew | enouf: no, g-v-m might have used pmount a long time ago, but no longer |
| 16:44.40 | \amethyst | hal is actually running as root, so can do the mounting; it uses a collection of policy rules to determine whether something gets mounted |
| 16:44.47 | stew | enouf: the only automounter still using pmuont is ivman |
| 16:45.02 | enouf | IntraVenous? ;-) |
| 16:45.52 | enouf | stew: thanks .. i didn't know whether any of them ever used it, since i loathe automounters, i never bothered researching/stracing closely enough |
| 16:46.20 | FFForever | can someone give me the output of apt-cache search php? |
| 16:46.29 | FFForever | i wanna see the php stuff in the lenny repo :D |
| 16:47.20 | stew | FFForever: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=php&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
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| 16:48.13 | \amethyst | the results of apt-cache search php are a little wider than you might expect |
| 16:48.38 | \amethyst | e.g. xine-ui matches, not because it has anything to do with PHP, but because its description contains the URL http://xinehq.de/index.php/features/ |
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| 16:48.55 | eurythmia | \amethyst, yeah ... because it does text matching in title and description, not just package title :/ |
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| 16:49.24 | enyawix | would flux use less resources than xfce? |
| 16:49.31 | \amethyst | maybe looking for a dependency on php5 would be best |
| 16:50.06 | \amethyst | aptitude search ~Dphp5 for example |
| 16:50.11 | enouf | \amethyst: thanks for that info about hal - and yeah, makes sense, and IINM, dbus is the message server bus that DE's, etc use to communicate with hal |
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| 16:51.36 | stew | FFForever: http://packages.debian.org/php5-gd ? |
| 16:51.56 | FFForever | stew, sweet i didn't see it when searching XD |
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| 16:53.19 | enouf | eurythmia: one can use --names-only option or even regex like 'apt-cache search ^php' |
| 16:53.48 | eurythmia | enouf, I never thought of that before. I'll have to do that from now on. |
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| 16:54.52 | enouf | the former will list only items that match in their names; the latter will also pick up on the start of \n or \t whether in name, description, whatever |
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| 16:55.56 | g00se_ | Package Installed-Size: is that KB or KiB? |
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| 16:58.27 | gigo | I have seen many people using a Mac style task bar at the bottom. each software has its own icon which can be clicked. they become larger in size when we put our mouse on it. anyone knows what I need to install to get that? |
| 16:58.51 | gigo | also any more cool gadgets that show system performance, clock, etc. in the right side vertically? |
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| 17:00.10 | enouf | gigo: a) i know kde has this enable LARGE icons which does that (grows when you hover) and b) are you thinking of conky perhaps? |
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| 17:00.26 | steffan | gigo: you mean a dock? |
| 17:00.33 | gigo | yes, a dock sort of thing. |
| 17:00.36 | gigo | what is a conky? |
| 17:00.45 | enouf | gigo: though i'm sure there are other DE things more like that than what i mentioned |
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| 17:01.03 | gigo | let me try conky |
| 17:01.12 | _entr0py | try gDesklet |
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| 17:01.30 | myeggo | hello |
| 17:01.43 | steffan | gigo: it all depends on if you're using gnome/kde, or what window manager you're using. for Gnome, there's Avant, gDesklets' StarterBar, Gnome Dock and Akamaru. for KDE, there's KDocker, KXDocker, KoolDock and KSmoothDock. |
| 17:01.52 | gigo | I use Gnome |
| 17:02.10 | myeggo | i want unnistall pidgin and i am not able, i have installed it via apt but if i do apt-get remove pidgin it says was removed, but every starting it appears again |
| 17:02.19 | gigo | in KDE can we have two panels, top panel and bottom panel? all my friends' KDE has got bottom panel only |
| 17:02.36 | micket | myeggo: perhaps you installed it via source? |
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| 17:02.51 | myeggo | as far i as remember (long time ago) i did simply apt-get install pidgin |
| 17:03.11 | abrotman | myeggo: `which pidgin` returns what? |
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| 17:03.41 | steffan | gigo: use gnome, then? :) |
| 17:03.56 | micket | myeggo: /j #debian-overflow |
| 17:04.00 | micket | ERH. wopps |
| 17:04.00 | abrotman | why? |
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| 17:04.28 | abrotman | myeggo: what does that command return ? |
| 17:04.30 | spal | Is there another command that does the same as aptitude search somepackage? |
| 17:04.46 | enouf | apt-cache |
| 17:04.48 | abrotman | spal: apt-cache has a search also |
| 17:04.53 | myeggo | abrotman: it runs the pidgin |
| 17:05.02 | abrotman | myeggo: without the quotes ... |
| 17:05.23 | steffan | spal: apt-cache search word |
| 17:05.38 | abrotman | or multiple words |
| 17:05.39 | spal | abrotman, apt-cache search does not display the install flags on the left side, i, I, p, etc. |
| 17:05.59 | abrotman | spal: right .. what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 17:06.08 | myeggo | lol sorry ^^ |
| 17:06.16 | stew | spal: there is also the grep-dctrl suite of tools |
| 17:06.16 | myeggo | abrotman: /usr/local/bin/pidgin |
| 17:06.23 | micket | myeggo: then it's from source |
| 17:06.24 | abrotman | myeggo: that's not a debian package |
| 17:06.33 | myeggo | omg:s |
| 17:06.41 | myeggo | i dont remember install that via source |
| 17:06.47 | myeggo | but sigh, it is possible even |
| 17:06.52 | spal | abrotman, see the list of packages, a brief description along with the install status just like aptitude. I remember someone posting a command here which did that but it was not aptitude. so trying to ask for help here to recollect that command. |
| 17:07.00 | myeggo | what can i do now then? |
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| 17:07.03 | myeggo | i dont know where pidgin is |
| 17:07.18 | abrotman | spal: dpkg -l | grep <term> ? |
| 17:07.29 | abrotman | myeggo: you just showed us where it is |
| 17:07.42 | myeggo | deleting that file is enough? |
| 17:07.45 | myeggo | oh, okay |
| 17:07.57 | abrotman | probably not .. but it's a start |
| 17:08.07 | myeggo | yea |
| 17:08.08 | myeggo | thank you |
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| 17:08.11 | abrotman | spal: there ise also `aptitude search "~d<search term>" |
| 17:08.38 | micket | myeggo: It'll have a bunch of files spread out in /usr/local/ If you have the makefile you could maybe run "make uninstall" |
| 17:08.51 | lazer | could someone please post me the standard /etc/apt/sources.list??? i`ve deleted mine. sorry |
| 17:08.51 | abrotman | spal: or "~n<pkg name>" |
| 17:09.00 | abrotman | !tell lazer about sources.list |
| 17:09.01 | spal | what do the ~d, ~n do? |
| 17:09.07 | steffan | What does this output mean? tor@steffan:~$ whereis tor.conf | tor: |
| 17:09.20 | spal | i mean what more than aptitude search word ? |
| 17:09.20 | steffan | There is no folder /tor? |
| 17:09.20 | abrotman | spal: see the aptitude manual for more .. but ~d is description and ~n is name |
| 17:09.20 | stew | spal: search specifically in description / name |
| 17:09.20 | myeggo | i used locate to know where i have a pidgin source but i dont see, i just removed that file - if it does not appears each morning im happy |
| 17:09.27 | spal | abrotman, thanks |
| 17:09.37 | enouf | spal: man aptitude, install aptitude-doc-en |
| 17:09.55 | micket | myeggo: well starting it will stop working, but it'll have it's shared libraries and such left on the system. |
| 17:10.00 | abrotman | i don't think the man page has a single bit about the search shorthand notation |
| 17:10.38 | myeggo | yes, i will google about how to clean that safely |
| 17:10.40 | enouf | steffan: maybe you wanted 'locate tor.conf' ? |
| 17:10.56 | steffan | enouf: ah :) |
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| 17:11.29 | spal | aptitude search matching seems to be case-insensitive matching. |
| 17:11.38 | enouf | steffan: or run updatedb prior, or use dpkg -S if you recently installed via pkg manager |
| 17:11.48 | steffan | enouf: source :) |
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| 17:13.25 | lazer | thx abrotman |
| 17:13.30 | steffan | I'm ./configure'ing with --prefix=$HOME, but nothing is displaying in /home/tor after ./configure && make has completed? |
| 17:13.45 | steffan | Only the original folder, tor-0.2.0.34 is displaying |
| 17:14.19 | enouf | where's the make install part? |
| 17:14.23 | \amethyst | steffan: plain 'make' builds but doesn't install. You nead 'make install' for that |
| 17:14.40 | steffan | the faq didn't tell me to do that: ./configure && make && src/or/tor |
| 17:14.46 | steffan | but i normally do, i thought it was odd :| |
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| 17:15.03 | \amethyst | steffan: that's saying to run the program from the build directory without installing |
| 17:15.19 | \amethyst | steffan: i.e. the tor-0.2.0.34 directory |
| 17:15.29 | gigo | in the man page that I see by using the 'man' comman, many words appear as link, e.g. PATTERN. How do I click this link and see the details of PATTERN? |
| 17:15.34 | enouf | where's the cd into /src/of/tor/ ? but anyways, you should already be there |
| 17:15.57 | \amethyst | gigo: they're not links, just underlined (it's used as a substitute for italics) |
| 17:16.06 | gigo | \amethyst, ok |
| 17:16.58 | \amethyst | gigo: the closest things to 'links' are references like nroff(1) (which means do man -s 1 nroff to look up nroff in section 1 of the manual) |
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| 17:18.24 | \amethyst | gigo: there are programs like man2html that you can use to get actual links |
| 17:19.40 | steffan | does anyone run a tor relay? |
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| 17:20.14 | module000 | steffan: would anyone who ran a tor relay advertise it? what do you need help with |
| 17:20.48 | steffan | module000: just a few misunderstandings to-do with torrc (setting up a relay) |
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| 17:20.52 | steffan | module000: do you have experience? |
| 17:21.46 | gigo | gnome-do says that I should enable compositing to get themes, animation, etc. how can I enable compositing? |
| 17:22.39 | module000 | steffan: a little bit, what's not working? |
| 17:22.58 | module000 | steffan: have you looked at http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Setting_up_a_Tor_server |
| 17:22.59 | abrotman | steffan: there is a #tor on oftc IIRC |
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| 17:24.59 | gigo | I opened 'On Screen Keyboard', now I don't see any way of closing it. |
| 17:25.08 | module000 | gigo: xkill never fails |
| 17:25.09 | steffan | I'm just confused by, if I put the line SocksListenAddress 127.0.0.1 # accept connections only from localhost, does that mean out side connections cannot connect? |
| 17:25.13 | steffan | That's what it sounds like.. |
| 17:25.26 | pvullo | Hi ! I'm searching a good console/terminal for debian/gnome. What is your favorite ? |
| 17:25.26 | module000 | steffan: yes, your binding it to that address |
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| 17:25.48 | steffan | module000: That wouldn't work very well for a relay would it? |
| 17:26.48 | module000 | steffan: nope, but ORPort is bound to any incoming connection..youa re just talking about socks above |
| 17:27.15 | steffan | module000: Where do I specify what IP I want to use for tor? |
| 17:27.20 | steffan | I have a few. |
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| 17:27.40 | module000 | steffan: i've never specified one on the client end..i let it pick |
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| 17:27.55 | ROKO__ | how can install flash player in debian etch amd64 ? |
| 17:28.44 | jetpda | 32bit |
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| 17:28.50 | ROKO__ | but how |
| 17:28.52 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 17:29.22 | stew | ROKO__: "aptitude install gnash" for a free player, or for the adobe player install flashplugin-nonfree from bpo: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 17:29.25 | jetpda | !flash |
| 17:29.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 17:30.24 | jetpda | is walking in mall |
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| 17:31.05 | jetpda | work rough |
| 17:31.26 | ROKO__ | i use debian etchnhalf amd64 |
| 17:31.27 | jetpda | i'll die |
| 17:31.49 | stew | ROKO__: you should probably upgrade to lenny aka stable then |
| 17:31.55 | jetpda | !stable |
| 17:31.55 | dpkg | stable is, like, the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Lenny (5.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 17:32.22 | jetpda | :O |
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| 17:34.29 | gigo | everytime I press ctrl+c, a window popups and says, "Do you want deactivate Sticky Keys?" - why? |
| 17:34.36 | gigo | what is this meant for and how to avoid it? |
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| 17:37.31 | hark | gigo: say yes, and it won't prompt you again |
| 17:37.58 | gigo | done. why is that thing used anyway? |
| 17:38.11 | gigo | what good does a program does which says, "hey! you pressed two keys together." |
| 17:39.54 | ROKO__ | thanks |
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| 17:40.05 | ROKO__ | and nvidia driver for debian amd64 |
| 17:40.07 | ROKO__ | ? |
| 17:40.08 | hark | because you must have activated it earlier |
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| 17:43.22 | kanon-mat | that is for disabled persons, gigo |
| 17:43.41 | enouf | "Accessibility" options |
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| 17:48.33 | steffan | module000: I need it to bind to a certain IP that I don't have anything running on, for security reasons |
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| 17:50.04 | phyburn | how do you completely remove a package? I've tried dpkg --purge package and also apt0-get --purge remove package |
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| 17:50.24 | stew | phyburn: either of those |
| 17:50.35 | gnuevo | why do you think it is not removed? |
| 17:50.42 | phyburn | I removed some config files manually now they wont be re-installed when I try and do apt-get install package |
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| 17:50.49 | phyburn | LibClamAV Error: cl_load(): Can't get status of /var/lib/clamav/ |
| 17:50.51 | phyburn | because I get that error |
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| 17:51.02 | phyburn | which is from me doing rm -r /var/lib/clamav |
| 17:51.04 | nkuttler | !tell phyburn about confmiss |
| 17:51.29 | Jemt | !ops DbB is a spam bot |
| 17:51.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jemt complains about: DbB is a spam bot |
| 17:51.38 | phyburn | thanks nkuttler |
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| 17:51.49 | stew | Jemt: thanks |
| 17:51.50 | phyburn | and yeah dbb is DbB is def spamming -_- |
| 17:51.51 | Jemt | :) |
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| 17:55.49 | phyburn | any other ideas still getting the error about missing dirs I tried both aptitude and apt-get |
| 17:55.54 | phyburn | both didn't seem to resolve it |
| 17:56.34 | _entr0py | what's the error again? |
| 17:57.04 | nkuttler | phyburn: pastebin command + output |
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| 17:57.24 | phyburn | wait maybe I need to re-install this other package |
| 17:57.30 | phyburn | let em try that |
| 17:57.59 | phyburn | ah great I forgot to re-install the clamav-base as well! |
| 17:58.03 | phyburn | thanks nkuttler |
| 17:58.10 | gigo | my friend is behind a NAT. he has a private IP address 192.168.1.5. Is there any tool in Debian that will let me get shell access to his machine? |
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| 17:58.43 | cahoot | ssh |
| 17:58.59 | patrikf | gigo: ssh, telnet... + proper port forwarding |
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| 17:59.28 | gigo | oh, port forwarding has to be done in router which is a problem. I thought some peer-to-peer sort of shell access software. :-) |
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| 18:02.34 | Malle | hello, i cant boot the install disk because my computer is to old, how get i get the install to run without the disc .. or how to boot it? |
| 18:03.13 | patrikf | gigo: google reverse ssh tunneling |
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| 18:03.53 | justin | Malle: your computer can't boot off a cdrom? |
| 18:04.04 | stew | Malle: you could do a hd install perhaps? what exactly is the reason you can't boot the disk? |
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| 18:04.52 | nkuttler | Malle: and what do you mean by 'disk'? |
| 18:05.04 | enouf | Malle: a p3 500MHz isn't too old to boot a cd .. but i know your situation .. we gave some alternative possibilities days ago when you were asking |
| 18:05.05 | jaggz- | is it just me or is flash not working on tons of sites (in ff or konq.) |
| 18:05.06 | ranamalo_ | when trying to do a ifdown I get: SIOCDELRT:No such process why? |
| 18:05.14 | Malle | enouf yes but i cant install xp on it |
| 18:05.18 | Malle | its to crappy |
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| 18:05.22 | Malle | justin it can , it boots all other stuffs such as ubuntu, xp etc.. but not 5.0 ... |
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| 18:05.29 | enouf | Malle: oh dear.. |
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| 18:05.34 | justin | Malle: why not? |
| 18:05.46 | ranamalo_ | before doing the ifdown I changed /etc/network/interfaces is that why? |
| 18:05.48 | nkuttler | Malle: your cd is likely broken |
| 18:05.56 | enouf | Malle: i asked you about possible settings in BIOS and all you said it was in Danish lang? |
| 18:06.09 | Malle | nkuttler tried many different ones, including cds that friends burned for me |
| 18:06.12 | patrikf | Malle: either your cd is broken, or you should tell us the exact error message you get |
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| 18:06.19 | Malle | i dont get an error message patrikf |
| 18:06.22 | Malle | it just dont boot |
| 18:06.34 | patrikf | so what does it do then? |
| 18:06.38 | enouf | yo all .. supposedly at one point it booted into Dr. DOS? |
| 18:06.41 | Malle | enouf what is the setting in bios you talked about then i should look for ? |
| 18:07.02 | enouf | Malle: it's an IBM? see if it's set to use OS/2 or something |
| 18:07.06 | enouf | !os2 |
| 18:07.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, os2 is a nice 32-bit OS made by IBM, but was a flop as IBM didn't market it well enough. it is now dead., but could run Windows 3.1 applications. or not so dead; IBM still use it internally quite a bit, and see odin |
| 18:07.17 | Malle | patrikf the HDD is new no i get "so OS found" .. and all other boot disks from xp, ubuntu etc are working great |
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| 18:07.32 | nkuttler | Malle: which debian cd did you download? |
| 18:07.39 | Malle | enouf under what "tab" would that setting be |
| 18:07.46 | nkuttler | Malle: is your bios configured to boot from cd? |
| 18:07.49 | enouf | Malle: and .. i recall you said "ubuntu will install .. " or atleast you started the installation process |
| 18:07.50 | Malle | yes |
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| 18:07.58 | justin | Malle: what happens when you put in the debian cd. |
| 18:07.58 | Malle | yes it did enouf |
| 18:08.09 | patrikf | Malle: please verify with another computer that your CD really works |
| 18:08.12 | enouf | Malle: so install it - or install xpoop - install something |
| 18:08.17 | Malle | nkuttler -> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-CD-1.iso | justin nothing i get "no os found" |
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| 18:08.28 | Malle | patrikf i did its working |
| 18:08.38 | gigo | patrikf, the problem is that both the machines are behind NAT |
| 18:08.51 | Malle | enouf is xpoop an os or what |
| 18:09.05 | enouf | Malle: windows XP or win98 or who cares |
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| 18:09.17 | Malle | and then proceeed to install debian ? |
| 18:09.17 | patrikf | gigo: then you have to configure port forwarding for one of the two machines at least |
| 18:09.28 | patrikf | gigo: or have a server somewhere that both machines can access |
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| 18:09.32 | enouf | then see http://goodbye-windows.com .. why o why am i repeating all this! |
| 18:09.34 | gigo | ok |
| 18:09.41 | Malle | enouf because you love me |
| 18:09.42 | Malle | =) |
| 18:10.03 | justin | Malle: did you say you have ubuntu installeD? |
| 18:10.04 | enouf | !spank Malle |
| 18:10.04 | dpkg | bends Malle over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
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| 18:10.17 | Malle | justin no but i CAN install it |
| 18:10.40 | jaggz- | Does your flash work on this page? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/01/08/ces_video_lenovo_w700ds/ |
| 18:10.47 | jaggz- | My flash fails on a lot of sites nowadays |
| 18:11.14 | Malle | enouf if i install xp and then install this "debian.exe" what will happend after i reboot, i dont understand it from the site .. |
| 18:11.40 | justin | Malle: have you verified the md5sum of the debian cd? |
| 18:11.49 | Malle | yesssss |
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| 18:12.15 | Malle | how will it know to install 5.0 .. since the .exe is from 2007 |
| 18:12.27 | enouf | Malle: a debian installer script will run |
| 18:12.28 | jaggz- | heh... linux.exe |
| 18:12.41 | meder_ | can you sftp through a proxy? |
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| 18:12.53 | enouf | Malle: debian is a rolling distro - meaning, it's upgradeable |
| 18:13.32 | justin | Malle: can that machine boot off usb? does it have a floppy drive? |
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| 18:13.57 | Malle | floppy yes, but i have no floppy disks or floppy drive on my main pc - it has USB |
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| 18:15.51 | rocketmagnet | hi all |
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| 18:16.21 | rocketmagnet | when i've a amd athlon dual core, which iso do i need (i don't want 64bit for this installation) |
| 18:16.32 | rocketmagnet | i386? |
| 18:16.38 | justin | yes |
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| 18:17.13 | rocketmagnet | isn't that without the new cpu features ? |
| 18:17.27 | rocketmagnet | isn't there one for amd dual core ? |
| 18:17.38 | rocketmagnet | haven't installed linux for one year now |
| 18:17.48 | infinity_ | how can i prevent the kernel from being upgraded when i do a dist-upgrade? |
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| 18:18.31 | infinity_ | ahh ...do "upgrade" not "dist-upgrade" |
| 18:18.51 | gigo | I am wondering why a debian.exe would be present. how can it install debian when Windows is already running? |
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| 18:20.22 | Janni | Hi. I've got a problem with xvidcap. As soon as I start recording, I get "swScaler: rgb4 is not supported as input pixel format" along with a segfault. I couldn't find any information about this on the web. Maybe someone got a workaround for this or an alternative program. I'd like to capture the complete screen, not just one window. |
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| 18:20.59 | jaggz- | does it work in a window? |
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| 18:21.15 | slav | hi |
| 18:21.19 | Janni | No. |
| 18:21.24 | slav | what is the best solution of making Debian mirror: debmirror or apt-mirror ? |
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| 18:21.30 | x_link | enouf: Heeeeeeeeeey! =9 |
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| 18:22.27 | enouf | x_link: yo! long time lil' buddy :-) |
| 18:22.33 | x_link | Hehe yes =) |
| 18:22.38 | x_link | enouf: How are you? |
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| 18:22.52 | enouf | bene bene, ettu? |
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| 18:23.12 | enouf | x_link: for idle chatter though, we would go elsewhere, just not here |
| 18:23.35 | abrotman | gets enouf and x_link a channel .. by the hour |
| 18:23.37 | abrotman | hides |
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| 18:24.43 | gigo | Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused - What could be the cause of this? I used the .conkyrc file here: http://conky.sourceforge.net/conkyrc-citi |
| 18:24.47 | JoCoLa | Hi all. I'm a linux noob, logging in from Puppy, but still curious about other distros, including Debian, so i wanted to ask:Is goodbye-windows the Debain equivalent of Ubuntu's wubi installer? |
| 18:24.57 | x_link | enouf: Ohh...sorry I forgot. |
| 18:25.04 | enouf | JoCoLa: kind of .. i suppose |
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| 18:25.28 | enouf | judd: versions conky |
| 18:25.29 | judd | enouf: conky -- etch: 1.4.4-1 lenny: 1.6.0-2 sid: 1.6.1-2 squeeze: 1.6.1-2 |
| 18:25.29 | Malle | enouf i have the netinstall on a USB |
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| 18:25.50 | Malle | but it wont boot, and i cant select a USB device as a boot priority |
| 18:25.54 | Malle | but usb is enabled and so on |
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| 18:26.16 | enouf | Malle: shame - no bootable USB? oh well |
| 18:26.19 | JoCoLa | "suppose" is it different somehow? I mean does it download into windows with the same sort of virtual install that can be dual booted? |
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| 18:26.33 | Malle | alright ill go with the windows fucking shit i guess :/ |
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| 18:26.44 | enouf | JoCoLa: i know you can tell it to keep windows, or wipe it |
| 18:26.47 | enouf | IIRC |
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| 18:26.50 | hark | gigo: is mpd running? |
| 18:27.10 | jaggz- | Janni, hmm.. maybe a setting .. |
| 18:27.20 | jaggz- | I don't recall having to set a color mode though |
| 18:27.23 | gigo | hark, I don't know what mpd is. ps -aef | grep mpd outputs nothing. |
| 18:27.41 | gigo | i wonder why without the .conkrc file it runs fine but not without this. why does this .conkrc file required MPD? |
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| 18:28.19 | careta | hello |
| 18:28.20 | JoCoLa | whoa, i'm not looking to get rid of windows just yet....i guess I'll have to be careful, then. thanks, enouf. |
| 18:28.58 | steffan | JoCoLa: You should be willing to sacrifice Windows. |
| 18:29.04 | careta | I need advice from someone who uses apt-build regularly |
| 18:29.12 | enouf | JoCoLa: well then sure, Dual booting is an option, learn about installing and using grub bootloader properly |
| 18:29.13 | betrayed | gigo: just remove the mpd references in the conyrc file |
| 18:29.14 | dondelelcaro | careta: just ask your question |
| 18:29.19 | jetpda | what's the 'no sound after upgrading lenny->testing |
| 18:29.24 | hark | gigo: because the conkyrc refers to mpd, remove the part where it mentions mpd as you're not using it |
| 18:29.40 | jetpda | ' bugfix |
| 18:29.43 | betrayed | Or install mpd |
| 18:29.48 | enouf | then go for it .. (learn how to chainload +1 and rootnoverify windows install) |
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| 18:30.05 | careta | dondelelcaro, I want to compile gnome. by saying apt-build gnome-desktop-environment will it build the dependencies too, or just that specific package? |
| 18:30.10 | rgammans | speaking of dumping windows as anyone got experience using FreeTDS under Debian? |
| 18:30.23 | jaggz- | how do I keep iceweasel from switching desktops when a new url is passed to it? |
| 18:30.26 | gigo | hark, betrayed, I did and I still get the same error. |
| 18:30.33 | jaggz- | it opens in a new tab, but the whole browser jumps to the current desktop |
| 18:30.45 | jaggz- | (I'm in kde) |
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| 18:31.08 | hark | gigo: no you won't... chekc again |
| 18:31.23 | betrayed | gigo, then you must have left one in there |
| 18:31.25 | gigo | well this is pretty strange. # does not comment them. |
| 18:31.32 | gigo | i had to delete them completely |
| 18:31.58 | betrayed | i think in the section where you set up what conky displays it doesn't have a comment character |
| 18:32.04 | enouf | that rc file uses c++ syntax? |
| 18:32.08 | JoCoLa | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.29 | enouf | or even c for that matter .. ugh |
| 18:32.50 | enouf | JoCoLa: well .. just trying to help for a well rounded admin experience ;-) |
| 18:33.23 | jetpda | grub iz ez |
| 18:33.23 | enouf | JoCoLa: if you're looking for handholding and premade GUI choices only, maybe debian isn't for you |
| 18:33.42 | jetpda | he |
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| 18:34.13 | pepperbob | hi all |
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| 18:34.16 | jetpda | hey htf did some kde 4.2 make it in stable |
| 18:34.36 | stew | jetpda: what package are you asking about? |
| 18:34.56 | dondelelcaro | careta: you mean apt-build build-source gnome-desktop-environment, I assume. That'll just build the packages that are built from the meta-gnome2 source package |
| 18:34.56 | pepperbob | when connected through ssh ~/.profile will run if exists |
| 18:35.05 | pepperbob | is there a way to ignore this file? |
| 18:35.08 | dondelelcaro | pepperbob: depends on the shell. |
| 18:35.14 | jetpda | kdelibs5 & a few others |
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| 18:35.34 | enouf | judd: versions kdelibs5 |
| 18:35.35 | judd | enouf: kdelibs5 -- lenny: 4:4.1.0-3 squeeze: 4:4.1.0-3+b1 sid: 4:4.2.2-2 |
| 18:35.37 | mxmx | does anyone know whe i can find mysql.err? |
| 18:35.46 | Polarina | Hello. |
| 18:35.46 | pepperbob | dondelelcaro: mh.. is there a general way to disbale this without moving .profile? |
| 18:35.47 | steffan | Is there a package that I can use that will automatically send a .log file to me via e-mail once a day? |
| 18:35.47 | mxmx | *mysqld.err |
| 18:35.53 | asg | mxmx: in /var/log |
| 18:36.02 | enouf | mxmx: updatedb ; locate mysqld.err ? |
| 18:36.11 | dondelelcaro | pepperbob: fix your .profile to recognize if you're ssh'ing in, and not run itself. What exactly are you trying to do, anyway? |
| 18:36.12 | asg | steffan: logcheck |
| 18:36.21 | JoCoLa | thanks. i understand it's necessary if you want to be able top install different distros and whatnot. Well, the reason I was interested in Debian is that I was looking for something a bit more advanced |
| 18:36.25 | steffan | !logcheck |
| 18:36.33 | pepperbob | dondelelcaro: my .profile executes a program by default |
| 18:36.35 | jetpda | only kde 3.5 should be in lenny I 'think' |
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| 18:36.44 | asg | steffan: apt-cache show logcheck |
| 18:36.48 | dondelelcaro | pepperbob: so fix it not to do that if you're ssh'ing in. |
| 18:36.56 | mxmx | thansk |
| 18:37.02 | careta | dondelelcaro, I want to install gnome-desktop-environment built from source. why would I use build-source? |
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| 18:37.13 | jetpda | lol |
| 18:37.28 | pepperbob | dondelelcaro: ah - got it. ok, thought this could probably decided by the client.. |
| 18:37.28 | dondelelcaro | careta: see the manpage. |
| 18:37.29 | pepperbob | thanks |
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| 18:37.33 | jetpda | why use anything |
| 18:37.42 | careta | dondelelcaro, i'm reading it. it doesn't help at all |
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| 18:38.10 | careta | is there a FAQ available on the web? |
| 18:38.24 | dondelelcaro | careta: if you want to build it from source, build-source is the command that builds it. If you want to install it after you build it, use install. |
| 18:38.33 | jetpda | !wiki |
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| 18:38.38 | dondelelcaro | careta: however, building gnome-desktop-environment using apt-build is rather stupid, since it's just a meta package. |
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| 18:39.00 | dondelelcaro | (furthermore, the entire concept of apt-build is kind of flawed... but whatever.) |
| 18:39.18 | greycat | What's the easiest way to undo the "blue on black" color scheme in lenny/sid's new lynx version? |
| 18:39.18 | careta | ok dondelelcaro so I should specify each package that composes the gnome desktop right? |
| 18:39.20 | jetpda | !wb greycat |
| 18:39.21 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! greycat has returned! |
| 18:39.21 | midwinter | Hi there... I'm a bit new to this, and I'm trying to install Debian on a netbook without a CD or a recognized ethernet card... Is there a full install using only a USB key (rather than a net-based install?) |
| 18:39.32 | careta | and why do you say that the concept of apt-build is flawed? |
| 18:39.37 | greycat | I'm getting really sick of not being able to read it without squinting. |
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| 18:39.45 | gigo | I am using this as .conkyrc : http://conky.sourceforge.net/conkyrc-brenden - with this, Conky has a transparent background. how to fix it? |
| 18:40.04 | enouf | JoCoLa: i have no idea how/what wubi uses as it's bootloader mechanism, whether it passes on a grub/ubuntu choice from windows' multibootloader or what .. and i haven't used debian.exe, but i've read about it - note; grub2 is different, and modular -- also, some general info http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm (though the details there can seem overwhelming, it's not nearly as complicated - just note the 'gotchas' that windows mi |
| 18:40.04 | enouf | do) |
| 18:40.07 | dondelelcaro | greycat: -nocolor? |
| 18:40.08 | steffan | asg: Thank you :) |
| 18:40.09 | jetpda | you can use an iso on the hd and boot from usb |
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| 18:40.24 | asg | steffan: you're welcome |
| 18:40.42 | dondelelcaro | careta: because the packages aren't designed to be built using it. Your time using apt-build is going to be pretty much wasted in the first place. |
| 18:40.43 | greycat | dondelelcaro: "lynx -nocolor" gives me a black-on-black screen apparently. Or maybe it crashed the terminal. I can't tell.... |
| 18:40.48 | midwinter | jetpda: I've tried that, I have the CD iso on hda1, but it can't seem to find it when it searches :-/ |
| 18:40.53 | dondelelcaro | greycat: heh |
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| 18:41.41 | midwinter | I also copied the ISO to the root directory on hda1, just to make sure that it could get at it |
| 18:41.46 | midwinter | without looking too far :) |
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| 18:41.56 | careta | dondelelcaro, not if I compile them with intel c++ compiler, which suposedly gives a nice speed boost |
| 18:42.17 | steffan | asg: How do I go about using it? |
| 18:42.20 | jetpda | !debian-boot |
| 18:42.30 | jetpda | hmm |
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| 18:42.32 | steffan | asg: I just need a log in /home/tor/logs/notice.log e-mailed daily |
| 18:42.50 | careta | but I don't want to break my system. If i have the gnome packages installed and install a package build with apt-build, will it break anything? |
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| 18:42.58 | dondelelcaro | careta: it very well might |
| 18:43.15 | enouf | jetpda: looking for the debian-boot channel on irc.debian.org and/or the mailing list? |
| 18:43.19 | jetpda | !local |
| 18:43.19 | dpkg | hmm... local is like, is your system local to you? Can you physically touch it from where you're sitting, or maybe by going to another room? As opposed, say, to being 1500km from you, accessible only via air and sea (combined) travel, and installed in a restricted-access facility? This matters if we, say, try to restart your system and it doesn't. |
| 18:43.37 | asg | steffan: if, if that's all you need, just edit your crontab and add a line to 'cat /home/tor/logs/notice.log'. You may wish to set an appropriate MAILTO environment variable so it goes to the right account. |
| 18:43.40 | jintxo | steffan, I usually just set up a cronjob that runs "cat my_file | mail -s MySubject mymail@mydomain.com" for things like this |
| 18:43.48 | jetpda | gah |
| 18:44.01 | jetpda | install in locqal |
| 18:44.05 | dondelelcaro | careta: since the intel compiler isn't free software, there's no information as to its own internal compiler bugs. It's quite possible that things will fail to build, or produce incorrect code. |
| 18:44.09 | midwinter | Hmm? |
| 18:44.20 | careta | yes I am aware of that |
| 18:44.24 | jetpda | tell usb boot borl boy about debian boot |
| 18:44.25 | JoCoLa | Wubi allows for dual booting, I know. That link looks perfect; I'll start reading it now. Thanks, you're a credit to your distro, Sir! |
| 18:44.32 | steffan | jintxo: Thanks -- I don't think the .log gets cleared daily though, so I will have duplicates? |
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| 18:44.51 | jintxo | steffan, you will get the contents of the file mailed to you ... ... |
| 18:45.00 | steffan | jintxo: For eg. Today I would get todays .log, but tomorrow I would get today+tomorrow's .log |
| 18:45.10 | jetpda | bbl |
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| 18:45.23 | careta | so should I uninstall the pre-built packages before installing the apt-build packages? |
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| 18:45.37 | jintxo | steffan, how am I supposed to know what your logfile contains? you can always set up logrotate to reotate the logfile for you, I guess :-) |
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| 18:46.28 | greycat | Hmm. Apparently creating a ~/.lynx.lss file does not override the shit in /etc/lynx-cur/lynx.lss |
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| 18:46.50 | enouf | heh |
| 18:46.59 | greycat | Also apparently, editing /etc/lynx-cur/lynx.lss is capable of changing things, although just swapping the obviously-bass-ackwards first two lines is not enough to remove all the ugly. |
| 18:47.00 | enouf | greycat: thought about trying links2? |
| 18:47.17 | enouf | greycat: it'll even do GUI in console ;-) |
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| 18:47.43 | greycat | I'm using an ssh to a Debian box and I just want lynx to not look like an explosion in a make-up factory. |
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| 18:48.03 | lord_rob | Hi ! I'd like to reconfigure my xserver-xorg but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't prompt me any menu. How do I force a menu display ? |
| 18:48.06 | nkuttler | greycat: greycat -nocolor works just fine here |
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| 18:48.10 | mxmx | jesus |
| 18:48.39 | mxmx | 5 minute s site down and i get like 40 hate mesages between torrent coomments twitter and emails |
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| 18:48.45 | greycat | nkuttler: it works fine here too once I reverse the fields of the first two noncomment lines in /etc/lynx-cur/lynx.lss |
| 18:48.51 | gravity | nnngh |
| 18:48.52 | enouf | lord_rob: try X -configure to generate a minimal xorg.conf? |
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| 18:48.57 | steffan | logrotate looks as if it can mail too, jintxo |
| 18:49.00 | gravity | lord_rob: What do you want to configure exactly? |
| 18:49.20 | greycat | I just want it to look like the etch lynx. |
| 18:49.26 | enouf | lord_rob: follow gravity 's query |
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| 18:50.03 | lord_rob | gravity: my xorg.conf doesn't have a card description so it detects my vieo card each time it boots I suppose |
| 18:50.12 | jintxo | steffan, maybe It does. there is more than one way to skin a cat, or however that saying goes |
| 18:50.23 | gravity | lord_rob: Does it detect it incorrectly? |
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| 18:51.00 | enouf | (unrelated, but wth, i wrote it already :-P) perhaps your debconf isn't set appropriately and you might want to 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' or run drxx with -plow, or is it -phigh ? |
| 18:51.17 | gravity | dpkg-reconfigure sets lowest priorty by default |
| 18:51.30 | lord_rob | gravity: enouf: well I'm on X but I haven't fixed the resolution before booting (so I switch it with kde after) and I don't have OpenGL |
| 18:51.30 | gravity | Why people insist on adding -p flags I'll never know |
| 18:52.05 | gravity | lord_rob: What video driver are you using? |
| 18:52.06 | enouf | gravity: well, that's newer ... the -p at one time was needed in certain situations, IINM ... i'm an old dog, leave me be :-P |
| 18:52.09 | stew | enouf: low is the default you'd specify -psomething if you want it to ask fewer questions |
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| 18:52.40 | gravity | enouf: It's been that way for over half a decade man :-) |
| 18:52.41 | enouf | stew: has is always been like that? i mean since X86Config-4 say? |
| 18:52.48 | greycat | I'm an old cat. |
| 18:52.51 | lord_rob | I'm not even sure it detects my ATI gravity ... does it use vesa I don't know |
| 18:52.56 | enouf | yikes .. my bad .. |
| 18:53.03 | stew | enouf: as long as i can remember, yes |
| 18:53.05 | gravity | lord_rob: Can you put your xorg.conf in a pastebin? |
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| 18:53.11 | enouf | steps back ... and asks abrotman for a rental :-p |
| 18:53.11 | yaaar | howdy |
| 18:53.11 | lord_rob | sure |
| 18:53.12 | gravity | lord_rob: Also, what branch of Debian are you running? |
| 18:53.19 | lord_rob | gravity: sid |
| 18:53.30 | gravity | lord_rob: For OpenGL, do you have linux-firmware installed? |
| 18:53.31 | lord_rob | sid/experimental |
| 18:53.49 | yaaar | when i do an 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' apt tells me there are 4 packages being "kept back." What do I need to do to upgrade these? |
| 18:53.50 | gravity | We need to roll out an update with that NEWS entry |
| 18:54.08 | stew | yaaar: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 18:54.09 | yaaar | These are the packages being kept back: clamav clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam |
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| 18:54.53 | lord_rob | gravity: no what do you mean by linux-firmware ? |
| 18:54.59 | gravity | lord_rob: It's a package in non-free. |
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| 18:55.01 | yaaar | stew, that didn't send me anything... |
| 18:55.14 | stew | dpkg: tell yaaar about kept back |
| 18:55.18 | gravity | lord_rob: If you're running a new stock kernel in unstable, you need that to get reasonable performance on ati |
| 18:55.21 | gravity | Including OpenGL |
| 18:55.24 | yaaar | thanks stew |
| 18:55.26 | enouf | grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log (is a quickstart) |
| 18:56.00 | enouf | gravity: does that pertain to both radeon and radeonhd drivers? |
| 18:56.02 | lord_rob | well it worked before with only free drivers |
| 18:56.13 | enouf | lord_rob: things change - shit happens |
| 18:56.13 | lord_rob | and wihout that |
| 18:56.17 | gravity | enouf: I don't know about radeonhd. I try to ignore it. |
| 18:56.25 | enouf | gravity: heh - fair enough |
| 18:56.30 | lord_rob | enouf: ok :) |
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| 18:56.38 | gravity | lord_rob: The firmware was removed from the linux kernel because it's considered non-free. |
| 18:56.48 | gravity | lord_rob: The X package is still the same |
| 18:56.50 | tziku | Hello, i found my system freezed with this error on screen: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0 sector 0 . What can be ? |
| 18:57.07 | lord_rob | I see that's the problem I encounter :/ |
| 18:57.21 | gravity | I don't think it'll make a difference with your resolution, but it might. |
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| 18:57.33 | gravity | I don't know the full spectrum of how it's used |
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| 18:58.11 | nvz | how do I setup an admin on postgresql on lenny? |
| 18:58.14 | enouf | gravity: does the last paragraph of Kernel Modesetting section here touch on what you mean? http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_29 |
| 18:58.21 | nvz | mysql asks during install, postgresql didnt |
| 18:58.28 | micket | With all these fancy news around Xorg, OpenVG, gallium3d, KMS and such it got me wondering. Will I, running a old, unimpressive ATI-card, see any potential improvements? Or this just good news for new cards? |
| 18:58.45 | gravity | enouf: No |
| 18:58.54 | enouf | gravity: ok .. thanks |
| 18:58.58 | gravity | KMS is orthogonal |
| 18:59.01 | greycat | micket: I consider it good news if X still starts up after upgrading things. |
| 18:59.05 | zhxk | hello, how to get git installed? |
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| 18:59.16 | gravity | micket: Depends on how old it is |
| 18:59.23 | arezey | zhxk, sudo aptitude install git? |
| 18:59.25 | enouf | zhxk: install git, git-core, etc? |
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| 18:59.49 | gravity | micket: Currently radeon doesn't support any of the new things you listed, although KMS and a GEM-like thing are in the works |
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| 18:59.56 | action09 | oy |
| 19:00.02 | zhxk | well, after "aptitude install git", no git tool found |
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| 19:00.15 | hark | zhxk: it's git-core |
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| 19:00.25 | micket | gravity: ~4 years old. I am running debian unstable, and i saw some X-org upgrade recently. I had to modify xorg.conf to get it up and running again, but now it's fine. |
| 19:00.39 | gravity | micket: You can't run without a Xorg.conf? |
| 19:00.41 | zhxk | hark:so git is unwanted? |
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| 19:01.25 | nvz | the annoying thing here is I have no clue how to use postgresql and just wanted to check out egroupware... the lenny version doesnt seem to support mysql |
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| 19:01.58 | hark | !info git lenny |
| 19:02.00 | nvz | I got a fancy graphical postgresql thingy and cant even use that cause I have no idea what it was setup as cause it never asked me for admin info |
| 19:02.10 | micket | gravity: uhm, well, i dunno. I had it before for input on my touchpad, tablet, keyboard language, oh, and the virtual space for randr. |
| 19:02.30 | nkuttler | had to edit his xorg.conf too recently... |
| 19:02.31 | dpkg | git: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section utils, is optional. Version: 4.9.4-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 60 kB |
| 19:02.38 | micket | gravity: and it works now, i just had to remove some options from the video device, and the dri options too, so it's all good. |
| 19:02.47 | zhxk | thanks, hark,enouf,arezey |
| 19:02.48 | infinity_ | damn it takes a long time to compile php5 |
| 19:03.08 | nkuttler | i had to add sync + refresh to get the proper resolution |
| 19:03.17 | stew | infinity_: why are you compiling it at all? |
| 19:03.20 | gravity | micket: Ok |
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| 19:03.33 | infinity_ | stew: you didn't know debian is the new gentoo? |
| 19:03.35 | steffan | Would it be possible for someone to check http://pastie.org/private/gkuk6whkqswudwcsof5xa? I want the logs to be rotated daily, and when being rotated they should be mailed. Rotated logs (old logs) should not be kept for over 7 days. |
| 19:03.45 | stew | infinity_: no |
| 19:03.48 | infinity_ | no. i need to try the unstable version on lenny |
| 19:03.49 | gravity | micket: In unstable keyboard language shouldn't matter any more. I don't think touchpad and tablet need anything in unstable, unless you want tapping to work on the touchpad. |
| 19:04.12 | gravity | micket: Virtual space is still necessary until you get a real memory manager in your driver (i.e. GEM-like thing) |
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| 19:04.40 | infinity_ | stew: they should just compile all package versions for every debian version |
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| 19:04.57 | infinity_ | stew: that way people don't have to backport manually and stuff |
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| 19:05.09 | zhxk | hello, how to git from "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/fs/ext2/e2fsprogs.git",thanks |
| 19:05.24 | infinity_ | stew: you could run lenny on etch and it would be a world of confusion. awesome :) |
| 19:05.33 | justin | infinity_: the packages are what make up a debian version |
| 19:05.35 | simonrvn | zhxk: install git-core |
| 19:05.52 | micket | gravity: heh, i dont even touch it at all. Yeah, i figured my xorg.conf is in need an update (i.e. mostly commenting stuff out). But i wasn't sure what options i should have for my graphics card (if any) so i just played around until i got X running again. |
| 19:05.54 | nkuttler | zhxk: and read the git tutorial |
| 19:05.57 | zhxk | simonrvn:installed |
| 19:06.16 | infinity_ | justin: really? geez, i've never run one version of debian on the same cmoputer then |
| 19:06.24 | WaX-Dan | Hey, Im new to Linux overall and I wanted to learn so I installed debian on a Vbox, and now I was wondering why I cant install a .run file with the sudo ./ command? |
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| 19:06.31 | hark | zhxk: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/fs/ext2/e2fsprogs.git |
| 19:06.32 | simonrvn | so git --help would tell you to run git pull URL |
| 19:06.44 | zhxk | hark:thank you |
| 19:06.45 | simonrvn | or clone if it's new |
| 19:06.48 | WaX-Dan | all i get is Bash: /media/cdrom0/VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run: /bin/sh : bad interpreter: Permission denied |
| 19:06.56 | zhxk | simonrvn:thanks |
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| 19:07.11 | steffan | Would it be possible for someone to check http://pastie.org/private/gkuk6whkqswudwcsof5xa? I want the logs to be rotated daily, and when being rotated they should be mailed. Rotated logs (old logs) should not be kept for over 7 days. |
| 19:07.12 | greycat | WaX-Dan: your /media/cdrom0 might be mounted with "noexec" |
| 19:07.15 | simonrvn | WaX-Dan: chmod +x it |
| 19:07.15 | Sero | rescue? |
| 19:07.24 | Sero | !rescue |
| 19:07.24 | dpkg | i guess rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?") Ask me about <rescue mode>. |
| 19:07.27 | justin | simonrvn: chmod the cdrom? |
| 19:07.43 | infinity_ | sysrescuecd.org |
| 19:07.44 | simonrvn | no the file... |
| 19:07.46 | greycat | WaX-Dan: try sudo bash /media/cdrom0/VBoxLinuxAdditions-x86.run |
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| 19:07.57 | WaX-Dan | <greycat> <simonrvn> thanks for the help, will try |
| 19:08.07 | simonrvn | oh it's on a cdrom... nm... |
| 19:08.11 | WaX-Dan | going to see what chmod is too, since im quite new to linux commands |
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| 19:08.41 | zhxk | hello,can one mount ssh server on a directory? |
| 19:08.47 | justin | zhxk: sshfs |
| 19:08.48 | Sero | I have a broken software-raid and the system doesn't boot at all; what should I do? remove the boot disk, and try to create grub on one of the other disks? |
| 19:08.50 | Sero | raid-5 |
| 19:09.01 | zhxk | justin:thanks |
| 19:09.14 | micket | WaX-Dan: It changes permissions (+x = add "eXecute" permission). But you probably want to do what greycat mentioned. |
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| 19:09.25 | infinity_ | Sero: ack. you didn't make any other drives bootable? |
| 19:09.41 | WaX-Dan^away | micket, ah, i see |
| 19:10.04 | Sero | don't remember - the box is years old |
| 19:10.41 | infinity_ | Sero: hmmm. well, if you're sure everything is raid'ed ...then just boot with a grub CD or grub floppy |
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| 19:11.05 | pipegeek | Is there a way to explicitly set the UUID of a vfat partition? |
| 19:11.05 | Sero | where do I get a grub cd? |
| 19:11.06 | infinity_ | you'll have to manually type in the boot commands, but it should work |
| 19:11.12 | greycat | dpkg: oldlynx is <reply> If you want lynx-cur to look like etch's lynx, try Thomas Dickey's "oldlynx" script at http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg524046.html |
| 19:11.13 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 19:11.16 | infinity_ | google: grub install iso |
| 19:11.18 | simonrvn | justin: whatever made you think i was referring to the cdrom itself, you can disabuse yourself of the thought. |
| 19:11.22 | Sero | ok thanx |
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| 19:11.38 | justin | simonrvn: I didn't think you meant the cdrom itself, I just left out a few words :) |
| 19:11.44 | pipegeek | Or, rather, the identifier which is used in place of a uuid? |
| 19:11.53 | justin | like 'the file' and 'on the' :) |
| 19:12.17 | greycat | One of these days I'm going to implode when one too many Linux users assume I run with a white-on-black terminal. |
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| 19:13.01 | justin | greycat: clearly you run with a gray-on-tabby terminal |
| 19:13.06 | steffan | Why doesn't logrotate display in 'ps x'? |
| 19:13.14 | greycat | perhaps it's not running |
| 19:13.23 | justin | logrotate runs from cron |
| 19:13.41 | steffan | justin: How do I stop/start? |
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| 19:13.47 | justin | steffan: you don't |
| 19:14.00 | greycat | steffan: ls /etc/cron.daily |
| 19:14.00 | steffan | justin: I've edited a .conf |
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| 19:14.36 | steffan | I just edited logrotate.conf, removed a load of stuff, added a load of stuff. |
| 19:14.36 | asg | steffan: you can force it to run. -f and /path/to/.conf |
| 19:14.46 | steffan | what should I do now? |
| 19:14.57 | greycat | wait 24 hours |
| 19:15.14 | steffan | and it will rehash itself? |
| 19:15.18 | justin | heh, I was about to say the same thing :) |
| 19:15.29 | greycat | It is run by /etc/cron.daily/logrotate |
| 19:15.45 | greycat | Which in turn is run by cron because of the line in /etc/crontab |
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| 19:22.11 | Sero | infinity_: would trying knoppix or some other cd-based operating system be a good idea? |
| 19:22.39 | dotCOMmie | Is there any desktop enviroment which is intended for kiosk style applications? |
| 19:22.40 | zhxk | hello,how to make a tarball |
| 19:22.49 | asg | with tar(1) |
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| 19:23.11 | adama_ | tar --usage |
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| 19:23.48 | jaggz- | and print'em and fax'em |
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| 19:24.55 | adama_ | zhxk: go to the hardware store, buy some tar. Boil it for a long time, then put it in a heavy plastic bag and roll it around until it cools and hardens |
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| 19:25.18 | asg | or smoke for 20 years and have a good cough in the morning |
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| 19:26.28 | jaggz- | or crouch on a newly paved street |
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| 19:27.07 | jimcooncat | tar yer home: tar -cvvf home.tar home/ |
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| 19:27.28 | jimcooncat | me wishes for a /driveway |
| 19:27.54 | enouf | pipegeek: they can have up to an 8 digit uuid .. i think mtools, or dosfstools or similar if you really need to alter it (though those might only be LABEL related) |
| 19:28.10 | pipegeek | enouf: I think they are |
| 19:28.20 | jaggz- | (cd /home && tar -cjf - me) | ssh me@remote.host.com 'cd /home && tar -xjvf -' |
| 19:28.24 | pipegeek | that said, I decided not to |
| 19:28.49 | enouf | pipegeek: i mean s/digit/alphanumeric/ ~$ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ shows mine as |
| 19:28.52 | enouf | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-24 03:02 F462-6C80 -> ../../hdc4 |
| 19:29.34 | pipegeek | enouf: right. The reason I wanted to change it was that I had a read-only OS image that listed a vfat data partition by uuid in fstab, and the filesystem in that partition was replaced |
| 19:29.49 | jaggz- | that would probably fail on the creation of the homedir.. |
| 19:29.51 | pipegeek | have since started from scratch |
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| 19:29.59 | zhxk | thanks,though |
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| 19:31.06 | jimcooncat | jaggz-: I sure like doing that to load up a hosted website though -- tar over ssh = magic |
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| 19:33.34 | jaggz- | it's nice.. although in recent years rsync is nicer |
| 19:34.00 | jaggz- | but the / ending specifics throw me off |
| 19:34.43 | micket | On the new xorg (in unstable), should i be loading any modules? i see i have glcore, bitmap, int10 and vbe. And options for my video device, AGPMode, AccelMethod, EnablePageFlip, ColorTiling (which i had from earlier, for some reason)? |
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| 19:35.55 | enouf | micket: you forgot to mention which _drv.so ? ;-) |
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| 19:36.18 | kash | test |
| 19:36.32 | asg | we can year you |
| 19:36.35 | micket | enouf: wopps! I'm using radeon (not sure if i should be using radeonhd either) |
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| 19:37.07 | kash | so i have a Debian system that isn't populating /dev/ during the initrd stage |
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| 19:37.14 | enouf | micket: well - i'd check the changelogs , and see if man radeon is updated / detailed |
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| 19:37.27 | kash | and i'm not sure why |
| 19:37.30 | epsas | kash - that is weird |
| 19:37.46 | epsas | is this an initrd you made at kernel time? |
| 19:37.50 | kash | no |
| 19:38.02 | kash | it's from debian |
| 19:38.43 | dondelelcaro | kash: we don't actually distribute initrds; they get built when you install the kernel |
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| 19:39.30 | SkyWolf | Hi, I was trying to apt-get install apache, but I get these 404 errors. http://pastebin.com/d5d88de5d Anybody know how I can fix them? :/ |
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| 19:39.33 | enouf | micket: might also want to review mail from debian-x lists |
| 19:39.36 | kash | i meant it was made by debian's utilities with no modification of my own |
| 19:39.55 | kash | could it be udev? |
| 19:40.15 | greycat | SkyWolf: did you "apt-get update" yet? |
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| 19:40.41 | themill | dpkg: tell SkyWolf about ftp.debian.org |
| 19:40.50 | SkyWolf | greycat: I haven't, would that be the issue? |
| 19:40.58 | zhxk | says bayebye |
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| 19:41.23 | themill | SkyWolf: yes, "aptitude update" will fix that. |
| 19:41.29 | jaggz- | I'm out too |
| 19:41.35 | SkyWolf | okay thank you |
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| 19:42.19 | SkyWolf | oh thanks guys :) |
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| 19:42.41 | jimcooncat | if I install openvz kernel, will I have trouble with updates? |
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| 19:43.47 | dondelelcaro | kash: check and see what zcat /path/to/your/initrd|cpio -t; says. Assuming udev is there, the links should be created. |
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| 19:45.38 | kash | hm, it's there |
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| 19:47.51 | micket | well, time to do some xorg.conf testing, bye |
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| 19:53.47 | gravity | fwiw, micket doesn't need to be loading any modules by hand |
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| 19:57.13 | infinity_ | idoes aptitude have an autoremove |
| 19:58.23 | asg | check the manpage |
| 19:58.28 | kash | apt-get autoremove |
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| 20:02.30 | MrWax | http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html - does anyone know since when this software doesn't work for debian lenny? |
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| 20:03.03 | infinity_ | whats with all these people joining and leaving |
| 20:03.05 | rocketmagnet | hi, i've downloaded the debian 5.0 dvd but the install can't find my dvd =( |
| 20:03.10 | infinity_ | its f-ing up my scrollback |
| 20:03.22 | stew | MrWax: becuase its windows software, not linux software? |
| 20:03.34 | stew | MrWax: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:03.36 | infinity_ | rocketmagnet: the install can't find your dvd? that doesn't make sense |
| 20:03.46 | stew | infinity_: you can /ignore #debian JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS |
| 20:03.49 | kash | infinity_: ignore joins/parts |
| 20:04.04 | MrWax | I guess I cannot ask this question here since its #debian - but i'm trying to mount my debian partition automatically each time windows starts in |
| 20:04.06 | infinity_ | stew irssi? |
| 20:04.07 | infinity_ | ? |
| 20:04.13 | stew | infinity_: yes |
| 20:04.17 | infinity_ | you the man! |
| 20:04.20 | rocketmagnet | when i boot from the dvd i get a menu where i should find my cdrom/dvd device, but he tells me that there isn't a dvd inside :( |
| 20:04.21 | stew | MrWax: go to ##windows for help with windows |
| 20:04.26 | MrWax | noone helps :( |
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| 20:04.44 | infinity_ | rocketmagnet: ahhh. not sure. maybe you burned it wrong? |
| 20:04.58 | ilyak_ | hi *! Anyone is familiar with scim here? |
| 20:05.01 | infinity_ | rocketmagnet: i always use the netinstaller. i don't have patience to download a dvd |
| 20:05.03 | rocketmagnet | infinity_: don't think so, everything else is working i think |
| 20:05.09 | rocketmagnet | it's the netinstaller |
| 20:05.19 | ilyak_ | I've installed it and it kind of works, but export reveals no env variables related to scim |
| 20:05.24 | infinity_ | rocketmagnet: maybe the netinstaller doesn't work on a dvd? |
| 20:05.34 | rocketmagnet | can i do it from usb ? |
| 20:05.39 | ilyak_ | And indeed, apps don't really support scim unless those variables are set |
| 20:05.44 | infinity_ | rocketmagnet: probably. i have no idea how. |
| 20:05.54 | infinity_ | rocketmagnet: you don't have a plain CD? |
| 20:05.57 | ilyak_ | Do I have to set them somewhere, or they should be automatically populated (at startup, maybe?) |
| 20:06.12 | ilyak_ | Maybe I've misconfigured something? |
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| 20:06.19 | rocketmagnet | it's a dvd, cd better ??? |
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| 20:06.36 | pjz | any chance of getting svn1.6 backported to lenny? |
| 20:06.42 | jimcooncat | poor Mr. Wax, here you go: http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows |
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| 20:06.50 | jimcooncat | I meant MrWax |
| 20:07.12 | rocketmagnet | infinity_: thanks anyway |
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| 20:07.47 | stew | pjz: it wouldnt' show up on backports.org at least until it made it to testing (its currently not yet even in unstable) |
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| 20:08.32 | stew | pjz: but looking at the build-deps it should backport relatively easily |
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| 20:08.53 | pjz | stew: yeah, well, I treid to build it myself but got stymied by sqlite dependencies |
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| 20:09.04 | pjz | which I just didn't really want to have to *also* backport |
| 20:09.22 | infinity_ | pjz: yea. thats the bitch about backporting |
| 20:09.50 | infinity_ | pjz: you want one thing and you end up backporting your whole distro . heh |
| 20:10.03 | pjz | right |
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| 20:10.48 | infinity_ | pjz: which is basically why ubuntu exists. every distro has its place. |
| 20:11.09 | pjz | yeah, though gobolinux does a good jbo of solving t his, supposedly |
| 20:11.29 | pjz | it'll actually let you have multiple versions of things installed simultaneously |
| 20:11.53 | pjz | like: on my testing server iwbni I could have both svn 1.4 and svn 1.5 installed |
| 20:12.17 | pjz | b/c we wrote software that uses whatever the user has installed so iwbn to test against them both |
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| 20:14.59 | stew | not sure what ubuntu has to do with it |
| 20:16.16 | stew | judd: build-dep subversion --release experimental |
| 20:16.16 | judd | stew: subversion -- BuildDepends: debhelper, libneon27-gnutls-dev, zlib1g-dev, libapr1-dev, libaprutil1-dev, libdb4.7-dev, libsasl2-dev, apache2-threaded-dev, libsqlite3-dev (>= 3.4), libgnome-keyring-dev, libdbus-1-dev, quilt, doxygen, autotools-dev, autoconf, libtool, swig, python-all-dev, python-support, perl, libperl-dev, ruby1.8, ruby1.8-dev, java-gcj-compat-dev [!alpha !arm !hppa !m68k !mips !mipsel (1 more message) |
| 20:16.21 | infinity_ | stew: i suppose it doesn't, but its more bleeding edge thus maybe causing less of the backport desire |
| 20:16.39 | stew | judd: versions libsqlite3-dev |
| 20:16.39 | judd | stew: libsqlite3-dev -- etch: 3.3.8-1.1 lenny: 3.5.9-6 sid: 3.6.13-1 squeeze: 3.6.13-1 |
| 20:16.59 | stew | pjz: it depends on libsqlite3-dev (>= 3.4), but lenny already has 3.5 |
| 20:17.00 | pjz | oh, so lenny should be okay |
| 20:17.06 | stew | yeah |
| 20:17.16 | pjz | yeah, buh, that vm still has etch on it. hrm. |
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| 20:17.39 | infinity_ | pjz: dist-upgrade |
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| 20:17.42 | lero | hi. the daily netinst iso already contains kernel 2.6.29 or it's still at 2.6.26? |
| 20:18.04 | pjz | infinity_: yeah |
| 20:18.05 | stew | lero: it shoud still be at 2.6.26 |
| 20:18.24 | ilyak_ | hi *! Anyone is familiar with scim here? |
| 20:18.33 | infinity_ | pjz: i updated a product webserver from etch -> lenny on fri night and had all kinds of drama this morning |
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| 20:18.50 | infinity_ | lenny broke xapian and php broke |
| 20:18.56 | pjz | infinity_: eep! anything in particular to worry about? |
| 20:18.57 | infinity_ | fun |
| 20:18.58 | pjz | oh, hrm |
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| 20:19.35 | lero | stew: will they upgrade it shortly? |
| 20:19.38 | infinity_ | i think the memory usage in the newer php has increased, and the developers were using some legacy methods in xapian |
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| 20:20.00 | infinity_ | it was enough to cause a panic :) |
| 20:20.29 | stew | lero: i don't know, but I'd not expect it to change to 2.6.29 until 2.6.29 is in squeeze |
| 20:21.00 | abrotman | lero: there is an unofficial one with .28 |
| 20:21.16 | stew | lero: and the earliest that could happen is 10 days from now, which is probably unlikely |
| 20:21.17 | rahsputin | hi, i am using a Laptop and have a Serial-Mouse that i would like to use, how do i set /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use the mouse if that is the right place at all to configure it. |
| 20:21.51 | rahsputin | The mouse is a Trust(AMI Mouse Serial:11931) |
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| 20:23.05 | iwkse | hi, i'm using thunar in lenny and i notice an annoyance while showing files/folder. The mouse cursor keep recurrently switching between normal and busy. I debug it and i notice it just never ending with create and kill threads. Anyone notice this behavior? I think i found nothing in debian bugs |
| 20:23.29 | lero | stew: do you have the link to the image for 2.6.28? |
| 20:23.40 | stew | lero: an installer? |
| 20:23.49 | stew | lero: /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 20:24.55 | infinity_ | is it safe to disable the apt-get command? ain't i suppose to be using aptitude? i need a way to force myself to not use it. |
| 20:25.13 | azeem | alias it maybe |
| 20:25.27 | gigo | I want that whenever GNome starts, certain programs are run, like conky, etc. |
| 20:25.30 | pepperbob | infinity_: what's wrong with it? |
| 20:25.33 | gigo | how can I do it? |
| 20:25.33 | eurythmia | wait, what's wrong with apt-get? |
| 20:25.41 | greycat | gigo: ~/.gnomerc unless someone changed it on me. |
| 20:25.43 | abrotman | infinity_: you may need it for other things |
| 20:26.01 | gigo | greycat, "on me" ? what's that? |
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| 20:26.29 | greycat | English. |
| 20:26.33 | infinity_ | pepperbob: i was told here before to stop using it. i forget why |
| 20:26.47 | stew | infinity_: there is no aptitude source command yet |
| 20:26.52 | pepperbob | infinity_: heh |
| 20:26.54 | stew | pepperbob: aptitude is generally smarter |
| 20:27.24 | abrotman | infinity_: for normal package installation/removal, aptitude is almost always better .. but in some cases and some operations, apt-get may work better |
| 20:27.25 | infinity_ | pepperbob: and i would like to do things right, but i've been using the damn command for like 10 years. i can't get rid of it :) |
| 20:27.25 | greycat | Neither apt-get nor aptitude decided I needed xserver-xorg-input-kbd or xserver-xorg-input-mouse when I attempted to upgrade xserver-xorg today. |
| 20:27.27 | lero | stew: nice. this installer have ext4 option too? |
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| 20:27.44 | greycat | I haven't gone home and tried to restart X yet. It should be "fun". |
| 20:27.48 | stew | lero: i seriously doubt it |
| 20:27.49 | eurythmia | infinity_, there is no good reason to stop using it, really. |
| 20:27.55 | pepperbob | infinity_: i like it too :) |
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| 20:28.00 | abrotman | eurythmia: there is |
| 20:28.01 | jimcooncat | does anyone (other than package managers) use debian as a source-based distro? |
| 20:28.06 | eurythmia | abrotman, please explain. |
| 20:28.12 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 20:28.12 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 20:28.16 | infinity_ | eurythmia: see. you're about to get the lesson :) |
| 20:28.26 | abrotman | and also being the recommended tool by DDs to do upgrades between versions of debian |
| 20:28.28 | infinity_ | and i guess i'll get a review. |
| 20:28.55 | abrotman | though the last sentence in that factoid is no longer true .. apt-get can now do taht also .. but that was a minor feature IMO |
| 20:28.56 | eurythmia | abrotman, sorry, "DDs" ? |
| 20:29.06 | abrotman | right .. clearly you're qualified |
| 20:29.07 | infinity_ | abrotman: i'm sold :) now remove apt-get so i can stop using it. heh |
| 20:29.16 | abrotman | infinity_: don't remove it .. rename it or something |
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| 20:29.27 | abrotman | infinity_: or just retrain yourself .. i've done it |
| 20:29.36 | infinity_ | abrotman: yea. i was going to chmod-x or alias apt-get to "DON"T DO IT" |
| 20:29.48 | abrotman | (except i still use apt-cache for searching usually) |
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| 20:30.13 | infinity_ | apt-file apt-get apt-cache ...all very handy |
| 20:30.31 | infinity_ | rpm ...not so handy ;) |
| 20:30.38 | eurythmia | well, I've got no reason to stop using apt-get ... apt-get autoremove and apt-get remove --purge `deborphan` work fine enough for me. |
| 20:30.43 | pepperbob | i just read that it's not recommended to mix apt-get and aptitude |
| 20:30.51 | dondelelcaro | for trivial searching, apt-cache is fine... |
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| 20:30.54 | pepperbob | mix the usage of i meant |
| 20:30.57 | dondelelcaro | pepperbob: it's not such a big deal anymore |
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| 20:31.03 | infinity_ | eurythmia: dpkg -P "package" is what i use |
| 20:31.03 | dondelelcaro | pepperbob: they both read and update the same database |
| 20:31.10 | pepperbob | ah ok - so ancient information :) |
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| 20:31.18 | infinity_ | pepperbob: yea. i've heard that too |
| 20:31.43 | eurythmia | infinity_, lol, old school. as long as you're not using dselect to do it ;) |
| 20:32.05 | infinity_ | eurythmia: oh shit. i hate dselect. thats why i ended up using apt-get and dpkg commands. |
| 20:32.54 | pepperbob | oh recently setup lenny with lightpd and found that our web app is not working anymore. |
| 20:32.56 | eurythmia | abrotman, you never answered my question, only implied that I'm a dumbass. What is a "DD"? |
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| 20:33.22 | enouf | here's a nice pic for ya'll http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/a-map-of-apt-state-files/ |
| 20:33.43 | abrotman | eurythmia: Debian Developer .. |
| 20:33.44 | pepperbob | i assume this had to do with the suhosin patch in php5 - env variables where missing - especially one that informix uses |
| 20:33.45 | infinity_ | fixed. |
| 20:33.46 | infinity_ | alias apt-get='echo don''t do it!!!' |
| 20:33.58 | pepperbob | any experiences with such? |
| 20:34.48 | pepperbob | this whole thing was working in etch.. |
| 20:34.55 | infinity_ | enouf: wowz. |
| 20:35.11 | greycat | infinity_: '\'' not '' |
| 20:35.29 | infinity_ | greycat: worked for me! |
| 20:35.55 | greycat | imadev:~$ alias x='echo don''t do it' |
| 20:35.55 | greycat | imadev:~$ x |
| 20:35.55 | greycat | dont do it |
| 20:36.25 | infinity_ | greycat: you're right :) |
| 20:36.29 | eurythmia | abrotman, thank you. I had just never seen that acronym before. |
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| 20:36.58 | pepperbob | double D... well |
| 20:37.04 | infinity_ | \'' doesn't work either. ack |
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| 20:37.28 | eurythmia | pepperbob, to assume is to make an ass ... better to ask. |
| 20:37.53 | infinity_ | greycat: we both suck. i need to re-learn my quoting. |
| 20:38.05 | greycat | How did I suck? |
| 20:38.13 | infinity_ | greycat: \'' doesn't work either. eheh |
| 20:38.17 | enouf | infinity_: don'\''t |
| 20:38.39 | peterS | I kinda favor '"'"' just because it looks cool |
| 20:38.45 | enouf | heh |
| 20:38.59 | pepperbob | eurythmia: i was just reminded on the booby stuff :) however, that wasn't meant at all i see.... |
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| 20:39.23 | greycat | I definitely typed '\'' and not \'' |
| 20:39.33 | eurythmia | pepperbob, yeah ... it had crossed my mind too :) |
| 20:39.50 | eurythmia | ... especially since the Ds were uppercase. |
| 20:39.54 | streuner_ | died, because i payed for Taxi 80 Euros... |
| 20:39.54 | pepperbob | heh |
| 20:39.55 | infinity_ | oh |
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| 20:40.06 | streuner_ | fuck |
| 20:40.09 | infinity_ | greycat: thank you for correcting me. |
| 20:40.12 | eurythmia | brb; bootin' into my new kernel. |
| 20:40.44 | streuner_ | BS, only because iam too late for 2 minutes |
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| 20:41.01 | pepperbob | streuner_: lost you license? |
| 20:41.21 | streuner_ | pepperbob: i missed the train, so i must take the taxi... |
| 20:41.27 | pepperbob | ouch |
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| 20:42.13 | pepperbob | streuner_: was it DB you missed? |
| 20:42.33 | streuner_ | pepperbob: sure, 2 minutes |
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| 20:42.57 | pepperbob | streuner_: damnit! they're in-time when you're not expecting it. i hate 'em. |
| 20:43.00 | streuner_ | pepperbob: DB would cost me mothing |
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| 20:45.19 | sneezewort | Is there a way in Debian Lenny to convert html files with images into a PDF file from the command line? |
| 20:45.38 | Shadowcat | probably |
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| 20:46.07 | nkuttler | sneezewort: no good one last time i checked. nothing beats printing from a browser |
| 20:46.12 | Jygga | hi im trying to install zlib1g-dev and libbz2-dev on etch -> libbz2-dev: Depends: libbz2-1.0 (= 1.0.3-6) but 1.0.3-7 is to be installed can somebody give me a bump into the right direction to solve that? :) |
| 20:46.23 | ryan-c | sneezewort: you can probably convert it to LaTeX and then from there to pdf |
| 20:46.31 | pepperbob | sneezewort: there is html2ps imho |
| 20:46.36 | pepperbob | erm... iirc |
| 20:46.37 | pepperbob | :) |
| 20:46.41 | greycat | Jygga: apt-get update; apt-get install libbz2-dev |
| 20:46.49 | infinity_ | you guys are a distraction. i'm closing irc! |
| 20:47.11 | streuner_ | infinity_: good luck |
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| 20:47.39 | nkuttler | infinity_: come on, your box can multitask, can't you? |
| 20:47.56 | pepperbob | sneezewort: and then there is ps2pdf. so this should work seamless. |
| 20:48.19 | sneezewort | OK Pepperbob, Thanks, Ill give that a try. |
| 20:50.00 | Jygga | sadly apt-get update doesnt help |
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| 20:52.06 | nkuttler | Jygga: pastbin your sources.list |
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| 20:54.06 | Jygga | http://paste.debian.net/35245/ |
| 20:54.16 | Jygga | which would you suggest to add? |
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| 20:54.37 | nkuttler | Jygga: pastebin apt-cache policy libbz2-1.0 |
| 20:54.49 | phcoder | Hello, guys. I installed packages for cross-compiling forcing no-dependency. Now aptitude keeps proposing to remove them and doesn't agree to do anything else. How do I override this behavior? |
| 20:55.22 | Jygga | http://paste.debian.net/35246/ |
| 20:55.43 | Manoj | you could try holding the packages back, but sonce you used force, you voided your warranty |
| 20:56.06 | stew | phcoder: you have to satisfy the dependencies |
| 20:56.12 | Manoj | phcoder: if you use force, you are supposed to know how to handle the breakage :-) |
| 20:56.19 | stew | phcoder: what are the packages in question? |
| 20:57.30 | phcoder | http://paste.debian.net/35248/ |
| 20:57.36 | nkuttler | Jygga: er, not sure what line 5 means. looks like a local repository to me (?) |
| 20:57.48 | nkuttler | Jygga: -7 doesn't exist on my etch mirror |
| 20:58.02 | phcoder | The point is that the instructions for cross-compiling don't work as is |
| 20:58.18 | phcoder | http://psas.pdx.edu/DebianCrossCompilerHowto/ |
| 20:58.22 | stew | phcoder: if you really know what you are doing you could perhaps satisfy some of the virtual package dependencies using the equivs package |
| 20:58.28 | nkuttler | Jygga: check on packages.debian.org to see what's current i guess |
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| 20:59.06 | phcoder | What is 'equivs' package? You mean create a fake .deb with tgz + ar? |
| 20:59.07 | dustybin | does debian use Apache + MOD SSL or Apache + Open SSL ? |
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| 21:00.22 | dustybin | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2007-12-08 17:41 ssl.load -> ../mods-available/ssl.load |
| 21:00.32 | dustybin | ^^ that is located in my apache mods-enabled |
| 21:00.42 | dustybin | so, maybe, im using mod-ssl ? |
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| 21:01.19 | Jygga | http://packages.debian.org/etch/libbz2-1.0 ya |
| 21:01.43 | stew | phcoder: apt-cache show equivs ; it creates a fake .deb for you |
| 21:02.01 | Jygga | no idea how -7 got in |
| 21:02.24 | nkuttler | Jygga: you should try to figure that out |
| 21:02.47 | phcoder | stew: great thanks it's exactly what I need |
| 21:03.09 | Manoj | phcoder: You will be better off getting th cross compiling tool chains from Emdebian |
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| 21:03.20 | Manoj | phcoder: they have a pretty complete suite up there |
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| 21:04.02 | phcoder | Embedian sounds like "embed device". I actually need to cross-compile to ppc. |
| 21:04.16 | phcoder | looks for embedian |
| 21:04.25 | phcoder | *emdebian |
| 21:05.31 | dustybin | if you run a website, is it a good idea to let people access it with http and https ? |
| 21:06.13 | Manoj | if you do not, why run a website? |
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| 21:06.17 | pepperbob | dustybin: erm... how else would you like to access it? |
| 21:06.29 | dustybin | well, i use http only at the moment |
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| 21:06.37 | dustybin | i was wondering, shall i also have https access |
| 21:06.51 | pepperbob | dustybin: depends on the service you're offering |
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| 21:07.02 | dustybin | https://www.microsoft.com |
| 21:07.03 | dustybin | they do! |
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| 21:07.14 | dustybin | https://www.apple.com |
| 21:07.39 | pepperbob | dustybin: do you have an online store? |
| 21:07.43 | dustybin | yes |
| 21:07.57 | pepperbob | mh.. well then it could make sense to offer https as well |
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| 21:08.12 | dustybin | would it be better to re-direct from http > https |
| 21:08.17 | dustybin | then everyone is safe? |
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| 21:09.47 | pepperbob | dustybin: if i were you, i would take care about the sensitive areas of my service |
| 21:09.54 | phcoder | dustybin: https is only one element in security chain. |
| 21:10.10 | dustybin | ok |
| 21:10.51 | Jygga | hm i got no idea nkuttler 8/ |
| 21:10.52 | dustybin | why isnt http scraped? its a bit like using telnet |
| 21:10.57 | dustybin | surely everyone should just use https |
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| 21:12.10 | dustybin | hhmm a friend informed me, that https uses lots of CPU |
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| 21:13.43 | pepperbob | dustybin: that's correct. |
| 21:14.00 | dustybin | ok :) |
| 21:14.09 | pepperbob | at least in comparison with simple httpd |
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| 21:14.12 | pepperbob | erm httpd |
| 21:14.14 | phcoder | Manoj: they have the crosschain I need, thank you |
| 21:14.15 | pepperbob | erm http |
| 21:14.17 | pepperbob | damnit |
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| 21:18.29 | ma3x | hi |
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| 21:18.35 | ma3x | how do you change gtk1 theme in debian stable? |
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| 21:19.52 | Tordek | Heya |
| 21:20.08 | Tordek | I'm having troubles with the nvidia driver on squeeze |
| 21:20.27 | Tordek | X loads no problem; but it doesn't load GLX |
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| 21:21.06 | amphi | ma3x: there's a gtk switch program for gtk1 if I recall correctly |
| 21:21.49 | ma3x | amphi: I can't find it anymore |
| 21:23.09 | Tordek | any deas |
| 21:23.20 | Tordek | deas |
| 21:23.31 | Tordek | ideas* |
| 21:23.59 | simonrvn | ma3x: gtk-theme-switch |
| 21:24.05 | simonrvn | !any ideas |
| 21:24.05 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little vegemite, and a dozen sex-crazed badgers. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 21:25.01 | Tordek | okay, a rain check on that one... |
| 21:25.24 | amphi | ma3x: gtk-theme-switch |
| 21:25.27 | Tordek | any clues regarding nvidia-glx on squeeze? |
| 21:25.46 | ma3x | well i have it already installed but when i type switch, nothing happens. it just works with switch2 |
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| 21:26.13 | enouf | does the bait-and-switch on ma3x |
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| 21:27.32 | ma3x | no |
| 21:27.51 | ma3x | apt-file search bin/switch |
| 21:27.51 | ma3x | gtk-theme-switch: /usr/bin/switch2 |
| 21:29.20 | simonrvn | Tordek: install it. install proper x driver and kernel driver. enable glx in xorg.conf. the nvidia-glx packages include this info in their READMEs.... |
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| 21:29.38 | simonrvn | ma3x: there is not more `switch` |
| 21:29.43 | simonrvn | no* |
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| 21:30.21 | Tordek | simonrvn: I did all that, with m-a install, my xorg has "Load glx", and nvidia---not nv |
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| 21:30.36 | Tordek | and nvidia-glx is installed. |
| 21:30.46 | ma3x | simonrvn: nor gtk-theme-switch |
| 21:30.49 | ma3x | only gtk-theme-switch2 |
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| 21:31.48 | simonrvn | Tordek: you restarted x too? what does the xorg log say? |
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| 21:32.47 | zamba | what do i need to do to get a package accepted in the official debian repositories? |
| 21:32.49 | Tordek | simonrvn: yes, I restarted it... lemme copy the lines |
| 21:33.35 | simonrvn | zamba: get it sponsored... |
| 21:33.39 | simonrvn | !nmg |
| 21:33.39 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. See also http://www.debian.org/devel/ or ask me about <package basics>, <mentors> and <mg>. |
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| 21:33.48 | Tordek | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so |
| 21:33.50 | Tordek | (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7) |
| 21:34.02 | simonrvn | start reading ;) |
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| 21:34.51 | simonrvn | Tordek: how did you install the -glx ? debian's? you sure you're using the latest stuff for everything in your release? |
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| 21:35.40 | Tordek | Everything appears to be the latest---I removed --purge everything, and reinstaled all |
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| 21:36.12 | Tordek | and nvidia-glx was installed via "aptitude install nvidia-glx" |
| 21:36.23 | ma3x | how can you see how many DPI is xorg currently running at? |
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| 21:36.54 | simonrvn | ok. well, i'd stick that error in a google search, everything seems to be up to par. |
| 21:37.03 | simonrvn | ma3x: xdpyinfo |
| 21:37.52 | ma3x | any idea why i get this error when running ppracer? |
| 21:37.55 | ma3x | do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly. |
| 21:38.01 | simonrvn | Tordek: what it seems to me is that it's the wrong glx.so, and x is refusing to load it because of a symbol mismatch or something of that sort. |
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| 21:38.35 | Tordek | how can I see the packages versions from apt-get? |
| 21:39.30 | simonrvn | wrong tool. use dpkg or apt-cache. |
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| 21:39.30 | Tordek | *apt-* is what I meant >_> |
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| 21:41.07 | Tordek | nvidia-kernel-173.14.09, nvidia-glx version 173.14.09-5 |
| 21:41.10 | Tordek | :/ |
| 21:44.24 | Tordek | :/usr/lib# ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
| 21:44.26 | Tordek | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2009-05-04 00:02 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.177.80 |
| 21:44.34 | Tordek | that was... odd... |
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| 21:45.48 | phcoder | Thanks guys for the help. Good night |
| 21:47.32 | ma3x | is antialiasing good for the eyes and at what level medium full? |
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| 21:49.51 | enouf | it makes faxes readable :-P |
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| 21:54.35 | asulao | on debian 5, is there anything special one has to do to enable php5 scripting in apache2? |
| 21:54.46 | mns_ | anyone use mutt with ldap ? if so how to get it configured for that ? |
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| 21:56.37 | epsas | mns_ - there should be a how-to or three on that very subject ;) |
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| 21:57.53 | mns_ | epsas: there are, and I've followed them, but haven't been able to get it to work. Got lbdb configured, got mutt configured to query it, etc. lbdbq works just fine on its own. |
| 21:58.01 | epsas | hmm |
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| 22:00.11 | Tordek | okay... so I install nvidia-glx, allegedly for 173.14.09, but it generates links to 177.80, what the hell? |
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| 22:04.47 | hark | generates links? how? |
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| 22:05.38 | Tordek | :/home/tordek# ls -l /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 |
| 22:05.40 | Tordek | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-05-04 18:57 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 -> libGLcore.so.177.80 |
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| 22:06.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tordek, dpkg -L nvidia-glx |
| 22:06.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | and dpkg -l nvidia-glx for the version number of the package |
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| 22:07.45 | Tordek | ii nvidia-glx 173.14.09-5 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver |
| 22:07.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I got "ii nvidia-glx 177.80-1 [...]" and /usr/lib/libGL.so.177.80 |
| 22:08.29 | Tordek | /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.173.14.09 |
| 22:08.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems ok? |
| 22:09.11 | Tordek | well, yes, but there's that unexplained link to 177.80 |
| 22:09.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps just a stale link? |
| 22:09.30 | Tordek | nay, I deleted and reinstalled |
| 22:09.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | which one is it |
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| 22:10.07 | Tordek | anythong that should link to 173.xx is linking to 177.8; libGL.so, libGLcore.so... |
| 22:11.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | but that's not what you got in the package you installed |
| 22:11.25 | Tordek | no |
| 22:11.31 | Jygga | great ... now i got two options, upgrade to lenny ... or downgrade everything that depends on zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1) Oo |
| 22:11.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | I |
| 22:11.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've got libGL.so.169.12 additional to libGL.so.177.80 |
| 22:11.51 | hark | did you inst nvidia drivers from nvidia? |
| 22:12.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | !downgrade |
| 22:12.02 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
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| 22:12.17 | Tordek | nay, hark; m-a auto install as explained in http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 22:12.52 | Tordek | (still, another thing... why am I getting 173.14 kernel instead of 177.80 anyway?) |
| 22:12.59 | nick4 | I just got upgraded to 4.6.1 (Debain Squeeze) and the mixer applet doesn't have the volume indicator where I can quickly click and adjust the volume. Can I bring this back? |
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| 22:13.12 | Jygga | i just want to install libmysql++-dev on etch 8/ |
| 22:13.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | Jygga, /msg dpkg bpo |
| 22:14.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | Jygga, but if you went partly to lenny it's actually too late, you should go all the way to lenny |
| 22:14.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, I ain't sure if there are still backports for etch... being oldstable and everything |
| 22:14.42 | Jygga | i didnt -.- the guy that was supposed to keep an eye on the server did while i was on vacation |
| 22:14.44 | Jygga | ^^ |
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| 22:15.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | Jygga, well, doesn't change the result |
| 22:15.59 | Jygga | yup |
| 22:16.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | only you can relief yourself by yelling at him :) |
| 22:16.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh - and there are some for oldstable, you can /msg dpkg backports.org etch |
| 22:16.33 | Jygga | hm i get libmysql++-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient15-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages |
| 22:16.50 | hark | Tordek: yes, you should be getting the 173.14 kernel which is correct |
| 22:17.07 | Jygga | libmysqlclient15-dev depends on zlib1g-dev again |
| 22:17.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it's not a bad idea to upgrade to the new stable now |
| 22:18.20 | Jygga | any harm in trying zlib1g-dev backport? |
| 22:18.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's even r1 now |
| 22:18.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | and sooner or later you'll have to do it anyway |
| 22:19.02 | hark | Tordek: what does dpkg -S /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.177.80 say? |
| 22:19.08 | Jygga | any harm in editing /var/lib/dpkg/status to fit my needs? ^^ |
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| 22:19.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Jygga, using backports can wreck your ability for a smooth update... as you're updating via packages that have not been tested as extensively |
| 22:19.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell, yeah |
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| 22:20.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | that would unsync dpkgs knowledge of the system from the real state |
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| 22:22.03 | jpinx-eeepc | I am trying to debug a webforwarding service and I need to see what the http request actually is as it arrives at my box. How can I do that? |
| 22:22.16 | Tordek | hark: dpkg: /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.177.80 not found. |
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| 22:24.42 | adama_ | nice rdns.. |
| 22:25.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, "netcat -l -p someport", then connect with the browser? |
| 22:26.39 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: I was hoping wget might be able to do something |
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| 22:26.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, or sniff it with e.g. sniffit -i ... or some other options to save what you get, the interactive stuff kinda sucks |
| 22:27.04 | jpinx-eeepc | looks a t sniffit |
| 22:27.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | (for www connections that are gone within the blink of an eye) |
| 22:27.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | wget? |
| 22:27.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | wget gets stuff itself |
| 22:27.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | and has slightly different behavior than a browser |
| 22:28.00 | hark | Tordek: do an /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx start |
| 22:28.16 | hark | Tordek: and check the links again |
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| 22:28.20 | Tordek | no such file |
| 22:28.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh |
| 22:28.41 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: sniffit looks better than tcpdump ;) |
| 22:28.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tordek, check with dpkg -L nvidia-glx what files are in the package... |
| 22:29.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | mine definitely has /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx |
| 22:29.30 | Tordek | /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx << yup, there it shows up |
| 22:29.39 | Tordek | methinks his debian is fucked up |
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| 22:30.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions nvidia-glx |
| 22:30.04 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: nvidia-glx -- etch/non-free: 1.0.8776-4 lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5 squeeze/non-free: 173.14.09-5 sid/non-free: 180.44-2 |
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| 22:30.26 | LinuxMafia | hi |
| 22:30.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | err... you said you used m-a? |
| 22:30.37 | LinuxMafia | how can i install flash? |
| 22:30.53 | themill | dpkg: tell LinuxMafia about adobe flash |
| 22:30.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | why?, aren't you using lenny? lenny has 173.14.09-5 (which was the one you wanted?) |
| 22:30.57 | adama_ | !tell LinuxMafia about flash |
| 22:30.59 | Tordek | i purged and reinstalled glx, now it shows up |
| 22:31.05 | Tordek | *checking links* |
| 22:31.44 | Tordek | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2009-05-04 19:30 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.177.80 |
| 22:31.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | !win themill |
| 22:31.47 | dpkg | Congratulations, themill! You have won a one way ticket to Fire Island! |
| 22:31.59 | themill | yay! |
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| 22:32.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, you were faster AND got the right factoid :) |
| 22:32.18 | LinuxMafia | thanks |
| 22:33.05 | Tordek | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm on squeeze |
| 22:34.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | that has the same version! |
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| 22:35.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, m-a doesn't make the nvidia-glx one, doesn't it? |
| 22:35.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | it just makes the kernel-module package with nothing else inside |
| 22:36.19 | Tordek | I think so |
| 22:36.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's also nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686, though... also 173.14.09 |
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| 22:37.20 | Tordek | CutMeOwnThroat: amd64, jic; but yes, same version |
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| 22:38.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, I don't run amd64, can't look up stuff easily |
| 22:38.40 | LinuxMafia | guys ==>E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla |
| 22:38.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | but if there's pre-made packages and you do run 2.6.26-2 there should be no need to roll your own |
| 22:38.58 | abrotman | LinuxMafia: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 22:39.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | LinuxMafia, on debian-multimedia! as the factoid said! |
| 22:39.10 | LinuxMafia | abrotman, thanks |
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| 22:41.47 | LinuxMafia | thanks guys |
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| 22:43.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell, how did that go "adobe flash =~s/debian-multimedia.org/<debian-multimedia.org>/"? |
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| 22:43.26 | l403 | hi, does anyone remember the name of the applet that can mess with colors? |
| 22:43.36 | l403 | I think it was for color blind |
| 22:43.44 | l403 | I need to invert my colors |
| 22:44.04 | l403 | like a night mode |
| 22:44.14 | l403 | or is there some applet for night mode? |
| 22:44.35 | LinuxMafia | i also have problem with virtualbox |
| 22:44.38 | abrotman | messw tih colors? |
| 22:44.46 | abrotman | there are quite a few that do different things with colors |
| 22:45.04 | Tordek | :~$ glxinfo |
| 22:45.04 | Tordek | Segmentation fault |
| 22:45.15 | Tordek | okay, that's a... change... |
| 22:45.16 | LinuxMafia | i installed it but it says modules not installed , i think it is dependeny |
| 22:45.20 | LinuxMafia | is'nt it |
| 22:45.21 | LinuxMafia | ? |
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| 22:46.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | l403, hmm... apt-cache rdepends libcolorblind0 |
| 22:46.38 | LinuxMafia | modprobe vboxdrv wont work |
| 22:46.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tordek, got a version mismatch there somewhere... |
| 22:47.06 | adb | Tordek: i'll try a reboot |
| 22:47.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tordek, ldd $(type glxinfo) |
| 22:47.30 | LinuxMafia | CutMeOwnThroat, where is this vboxdrv module |
| 22:47.38 | themill | LinuxMafia: how did you install virtualbox? |
| 22:47.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | (look for stuff with the wrong version number) |
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| 22:48.03 | LinuxMafia | themill, package manager |
| 22:48.22 | themill | which package(s)? |
| 22:49.05 | cayres | anyone know why in lenny apache2 install took out the default and vhosts directory in /var/www? |
| 22:49.16 | abrotman | took out? |
| 22:50.00 | cayres | well in etch, the apache2 install created thos directories and the configs are setup for that |
| 22:50.38 | cayres | just wondering |
| 22:50.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | LinuxMafia, "apt-cache search virtualbox"? |
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| 22:51.07 | LinuxMafia | CutMeOwnThroat, i have it installed |
| 22:51.10 | LinuxMafia | ose |
| 22:51.24 | LinuxMafia | virtualbox-ose |
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| 22:52.11 | LinuxMafia | themill, isn't that it? |
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| 22:52.39 | themill | LinuxMafia: did you run the command that CutMeOwnThroat just suggested? |
| 22:52.49 | LinuxMafia | themill, yeah |
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| 22:53.00 | LinuxMafia | there is nothing other than -ose ones |
| 22:53.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | LinuxMafia, well, is it the correct one and did you also load the kernel module? |
| 22:53.10 | themill | LinuxMafia: did the virtualbox-ose-modules-* packages look promising? |
| 22:53.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's a whole bunch of virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.26* ones |
| 22:53.29 | LinuxMafia | themill, yeah it is same verison |
| 22:53.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, hehe |
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| 22:56.12 | LinuxMafia | CutMeOwnThroat, it is same version as kernel |
| 22:56.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | note 2nd part of sentence |
| 22:57.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | "lsmod |grep vboxdrv", I guess |
| 22:57.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | or... modprobe vboxdrv ; dmesg |tail -50 and see if it loads or not |
| 22:58.00 | LinuxMafia | CutMeOwnThroat, when u install virtual-box-ose , the module selected as dependency , isnt it so? |
| 22:58.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno |
| 22:58.19 | themill | LinuxMafia: not necessarily -- how would that work if you had a custom kernel? |
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| 22:58.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | there are several modules |
| 22:58.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | for several kernels |
| 22:58.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | a dependency would have to pull in all |
| 22:58.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... and yeah, even that wouldn't do any good for a custom kernel |
| 22:59.18 | LinuxMafia | so if install all modules that should work right? |
| 22:59.38 | themill | why not just install the right one? |
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| 23:00.46 | LinuxMafia | themill, i think the right one isntalled |
| 23:00.55 | themill | did you install it? |
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| 23:01.01 | LinuxMafia | how can i check installed packages? |
| 23:01.35 | abrotman | LinuxMafia: dpkg -l |
| 23:01.39 | themill | dpkg -l virtualbox-\* | grep ^.i |
| 23:01.40 | dpkg | ii virtualbox-\* | grep ^.i 1.6-2.2 themill's private stamp collection |
| 23:01.48 | abrotman | gamp collection? |
| 23:02.03 | themill | dpkg, shaddup |
| 23:02.03 | dpkg | No, I won't, you shaddup, you |
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| 23:03.09 | Tordek | bah |
| 23:03.16 | Tordek | that wasn't pretty, but I did it... |
| 23:03.31 | Tordek | i removed all the nvidia packages, and locate 177.80|xargs rm |
| 23:04.56 | abrotman | what could possibly go wrong ... |
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| 23:06.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | locate isn't necessarily reflecting the current state of your files |
| 23:07.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, you gotta private stamp collection? gosh... |
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| 23:07.18 | Tordek | well, yeah, I updatedb'd first |
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| 23:07.39 | Tordek | still, dude, it worked, for some reason... so I'm happy |
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| 23:08.20 | Tordek | thanks, y'all |
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| 23:12.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, nothing, except the sky falling down onto our heads! |
| 23:13.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | thinks that might be a) a not-so-great translation and b) an obscure reference for americans |
| 23:14.46 | abrotman | heh |
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| 23:15.47 | Phil4 | does anybody know what might cause a hard disk to shut down on the slightest of jolts? |
| 23:16.05 | Phil4 | it only seems to do it when booted into Debian (i.e. it doesn't do it when running BIOS HDD tests) |
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| 23:16.28 | Phil4 | however it's incredibly annoying that moving a laptop slightly causes the drive to shut down and it crash |
| 23:17.07 | Hodapp | Phil4: I had an eMachine at one point that had a hard disk that was so sensitive that the vibration from removing a sticker on the front of the case made it crash. |
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| 23:17.20 | Phil4 | heh |
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| 23:17.39 | Phil4 | this laptop is 3 years old now and has run Debian happily for the last 3 months or so |
| 23:17.45 | abrotman | Phil4: i'd ask ##hardware .. sounds like a short |
| 23:17.46 | Hodapp | the damn thing already had WinMe. It didn't need vibrations to crash. |
| 23:17.47 | ajavid | emachines are pieces of dog poo |
| 23:17.50 | Phil4 | it's been in the last couple of weeks that it's happened |
| 23:18.14 | Phil4 | abrotman, you think the HDD is fooked? |
| 23:18.35 | Phil4 | as I say, it doesn't do it when it's doing BIOS HDD tests etc. |
| 23:18.40 | Phil4 | just when it's booted into the OS |
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| 23:18.50 | abrotman | Phil4: i didn't say the HDD |
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| 23:20.44 | asulao | hi. is there a way to reinstall all packages currently installed, while keeping the configuration files intact? |
| 23:20.58 | abrotman | !tell asulao about reinstall |
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| 23:21.53 | asulao | thanks |
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| 23:22.29 | rahsputin | hi |
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| 23:23.01 | geckosenator | so I do "apt-get install ssh" |
| 23:23.04 | geckosenator | and it installs x11 |
| 23:23.33 | geckosenator | I don't understand why it woudl do that |
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| 23:24.13 | asulao | abrotman: so looks easy. just "aptidude reinstall '~i'" and my system will get downloaded and resinstalled ? |
| 23:24.19 | abrotman | hopefully |
| 23:24.27 | asulao | k, I'll try then. thanks |
| 23:24.28 | abrotman | geckosenator: aptitude -R install ssh |
| 23:24.31 | rahsputin | i just messed up my xorg.conf without a backup trying to enable a serial mouse... and now i did # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the command doesnt hold the option to set mouse and graphiccard driver or Monitor ... anymore |
| 23:24.33 | geckosenator | what is aptitude? |
| 23:25.00 | abrotman | !recommends |
| 23:25.07 | geckosenator | !recommends |
| 23:25.14 | abrotman | eh .. nope |
| 23:25.23 | themill | geckosenator: it's not installing x11, it's installing an x11 library to permit X connection forwarding. |
| 23:25.29 | abrotman | !tell geckosenator about apt recommends |
| 23:25.38 | geckosenator | themill: I see |
| 23:25.47 | geckosenator | that clarifies ti |
| 23:26.04 | abrotman | oh .. for apt-get it's --no-install-recommends |
| 23:26.15 | geckosenator | what on earth is aptitude? |
| 23:26.25 | abrotman | you're using debian? |
| 23:26.26 | themill | geckosenator: ask dpkg |
| 23:26.28 | geckosenator | yes |
| 23:26.31 | geckosenator | I use apt-get though |
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| 23:26.33 | abrotman | !tell geckosenator about aptitude |
| 23:26.37 | abrotman | !tell geckosenator about why aptitude |
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| 23:27.37 | asulao | abrotman: I always use apt-get btw, so doing aptitude reinstall should workin this case? |
| 23:27.46 | mogra | hello, I got audio to output to HDMI, but when it stops playing sound, the card keeps sending the very last signal to the speakers... *grumbles* have to switch inputs or reseat cables to get it to stop |
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| 23:27.52 | abrotman | asulao: not sure .. you'll have to try |
| 23:27.58 | mogra | Deb Sid, btw |
| 23:28.03 | epsas | mogra - whoa, that's cool |
| 23:28.05 | abrotman | asulao: if not .. there is another method |
| 23:28.05 | mogra | NVidia 8200 GT |
| 23:28.16 | asulao | well, dunno why I asked, it's already downloading |
| 23:28.24 | geckosenator | ok, so why do we have aptitude and apt-get? |
| 23:28.42 | asulao | gecko, dpkg says first has more features |
| 23:28.44 | geckosenator | it seems like like we should not have apt-get anymore |
| 23:28.56 | abrotman | geckosenator: apt-get can still do a few things aptitude cannot |
| 23:29.00 | rahsputin | abrotman: got any suggestions on another way of adjusting my xorg.conf without having to directly edit the file, like an alternative to # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
| 23:29.03 | geckosenator | oh |
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| 23:29.10 | abrotman | rahsputin: X -configure ? |
| 23:29.36 | rahsputin | graphicCard driver etc.. |
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| 23:30.01 | prophet | apt-get update&&apt-get upgrade << ithink its is is time now |
| 23:30.05 | mogra | any ideas on what might be causing that sort of feedback? |
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| 23:30.33 | rahsputin | abrotman: thats the new command ? |
| 23:30.50 | abrotman | i haven't had to use it .. try it |
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| 23:31.20 | rahsputin | cool, i will,i'm just not at home since the my desktops all funky now |
| 23:31.23 | rahsputin | thanx |
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| 23:34.40 | asulao | grr abrotman, that didn't work: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on bash |
| 23:35.03 | abrotman | that doesn't sound happy |
| 23:35.19 | asulao | maybe I should have used the apt-get way |
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| 23:36.57 | asulao | and dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install |
| 23:37.02 | asulao | doesn't seem to do anything |
| 23:37.43 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps what package do I need to install to get GTK working for a application I am compiling, it needs gtk to make me a gui basically .. I am using new lenny |
| 23:37.49 | bbelt16ag | gtk+ |
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| 23:39.06 | bbelt16ag | libgtk-dev?? |
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| 23:42.42 | amphi | bbelt16ag: ask apt[itude] |
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| 23:43.22 | adama_ | !search |
| 23:43.22 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking: 'apt-cache search regex'. Find which package owns a file: 'dpkg -S /bin/foo' or 'aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org/ or '/msg dpkg find filename' if you're already here. '/msg dpkg listkeys <thing>' to find factoids containing <thing>. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
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| 23:44.50 | asulao | abrotman: what's the other method? |
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| 23:45.22 | abrotman | the bot already told you |
| 23:45.37 | Firestarter | what is the other package select besides dselect that allows you to chose packages by the type of system you will be setting up? |
| 23:45.41 | asulao | I understood the bot told me 3 ways |
| 23:45.47 | asulao | I tried first an 3rd |
| 23:46.03 | asulao | or is 2nd and 3rd one way? |
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| 23:47.06 | asulao | anyway, 1st and 2nd method: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on bash |
| 23:47.10 | asulao | 3rd method does nothing |
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| 23:47.25 | ffsa | do u know why amarok and kmess crash the whole system in debian-amdy64 ?the newest stable version |
| 23:47.26 | asulao | 3rd method I tried using apt-get --reinstall install, instead of just apt-get install |
| 23:47.31 | bbelt16ag | found it |
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| 23:50.29 | vasi | is the source code for popcon graphs available? |
| 23:53.08 | vasi | i'd like to be able to set it up on my own server |
| 23:53.17 | abrotman | asulao: wtf did you do to your box? |
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| 23:56.10 | ryanCH | when will they relese "squeeze"? |
| 23:56.16 | ryanCH | *release |
| 23:56.28 | jwash | http://www.Marie-gets-Deflowered.com/?id=43a43334 |
| 23:56.55 | zinx | !ops jwash |
| 23:56.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: zinx complains about: jwash |
| 23:57.09 | \amethyst | !when will squeeze release |
| 23:57.09 | dpkg | There is no estimate for the release of <squeeze> currently. Subscribe to <d-d-a> to get news on the subject. |
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| 23:59.11 | cwheeler | how can I list the dependancies of a package? |
| 23:59.50 | abrotman | apt-cache depends foo |
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| 23:59.56 | cwheeler | thanks you |