| 00:00.11 | enouf | shanepardue: in the OSD/OSM - mine has phase, as well as many others |
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| 00:01.28 | enouf | shanepardue: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log (at first - to see if the correct/same driver is being used) |
| 00:01.33 | Maya | can i get stat on how far long dd is ? |
| 00:01.56 | Maya | 2714308608 bytes (2.7 GB) copied, 300.936 s, 9.0 MB/s |
| 00:02.12 | Maya | guess it would be higher had i opted for the SSD :) |
| 00:02.19 | enouf | Maya: in another xterm send kill -SIGUSR1 <PID-of-dd> |
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| 00:02.34 | Maya | wow, thanks |
| 00:02.45 | shanepardue | enouf: I've heard it's just a patched version of the fonts, but this is the site references and it's out of date http://is.gd/z1ZC |
| 00:02.52 | enouf | Maya: you could use bs=1M or even =4M |
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| 00:03.31 | enouf | shanepardue: ok - well, i was just using whatever intuition i could conjure up :-) |
| 00:03.50 | shanepardue | enouf: I do appreciate it, I'll take your advice into account |
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| 00:05.44 | mns__ | Anyone know of a command line utility that can convert decimals to hex ? just need it for converting RGB colours to hex codes. |
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| 00:06.44 | enouf | mns__: bc |
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| 00:10.40 | mns__ | bc does that ? |
| 00:10.46 | enouf | it's a bit tricky to use, theres ibase / obase or something options you need to pass it |
| 00:10.47 | mns__ | goes off to read the man page .. |
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| 00:19.19 | maximi89 | hi again, i need some thing of help here |
| 00:20.21 | maximi89 | i can't understand why init cant detect my hdd lol |
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| 00:24.59 | enouf | maximi89: external? errors are? |
| 00:25.09 | Rusty1 | maximi89: there could be a number of reasons. are you in the process of installing debian ? |
| 00:25.20 | maximi89 | no |
| 00:25.29 | enouf | no wut? |
| 00:25.45 | maximi89 | installed version, debian unstable, after make the update all works |
| 00:25.48 | maximi89 | before |
| 00:26.20 | maximi89 | and now something make this dont work.... i have 3 hard disk all SATA |
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| 00:26.32 | Rusty1 | the hd was correctly detected before you updated debian unstable? |
| 00:26.40 | anom01y | is there any debian versions that still use kde 3.5.x ? |
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| 00:26.50 | maximi89 | only one works, but if i disconnect all minus the system disk my system works |
| 00:26.59 | anom01y | or are they all kde 4 now ? |
| 00:27.05 | maximi89 | Rusty1: yes all works nicely |
| 00:27.28 | maximi89 | when i run with all disk |
| 00:27.44 | maximi89 | the initramfs leave on busybox |
| 00:28.00 | Koiann | no no |
| 00:28.02 | Rusty1 | all worked before the upgrade and no changes to hardware/cables etc |
| 00:28.02 | Koiann | yes yes |
| 00:28.19 | maximi89 | no, no changes, today i change the cable for test, but nothing |
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| 00:29.34 | maximi89 | when im on busybox this i can check dmesg detect all partitions, but on /dev there are no partitions of disk, only the one who works, that disk ever works, but the other two nothing, only single mode works |
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| 00:30.17 | anom01y | does Debian 5 use kde 4 ? |
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| 00:30.41 | dmoerner | anom01y, no, it does not |
| 00:30.54 | anom01y | dmoerner, kde 3.5 ? |
| 00:30.59 | anom01y | or gnome ? |
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| 00:31.09 | enouf | either and others |
| 00:31.10 | anom01y | because I would like something that does not use kde 4 |
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| 00:31.16 | enouf | or both |
| 00:31.26 | ultraj6 | i want to have alot of virtual machines on my box, what is the best way to do that |
| 00:31.34 | enouf | judd: versions kdelibs |
| 00:31.34 | anom01y | so If I got debian could I put kde 3.5.x and xfce on it ? |
| 00:31.35 | judd | enouf: kdelibs -- etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch1 etch-backports: 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-7~bpo40+1 lenny: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny1 sid: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-1 sid: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-2 squeeze: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-2 |
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| 00:31.47 | dkr | ultraj6: get lots of ram |
| 00:31.53 | anom01y | kde4 is for weeners |
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| 00:32.46 | ChrisHansen | My name is Chris Hansen and I'm with NBC. |
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| 00:33.19 | iScottNYC113 | chasing any predators ? |
| 00:33.26 | Rusty1 | maximi89: is this a new install? |
| 00:33.32 | Supaplex | ChrisHansen: that's nice. |
| 00:33.45 | ChrisHansen | To Catch a Basement-Dwelling, Star-Trek Watching Predator; IRC Edition |
| 00:33.51 | ultraj6 | should i use xen? |
| 00:34.01 | ultraj6 | should i use vmware virtual server? |
| 00:34.19 | iScottNYC113 | anyone wanna help me write some pseudocode |
| 00:34.20 | iScottNYC113 | easy to someone that knows how |
| 00:34.23 | iScottNYC113 | small amount |
| 00:34.38 | Supaplex | !tell iScottNYC113 -about enter |
| 00:34.45 | ChrisHansen | We're doing a documentary about adults who use and develop copyleft software in an effort to subvert utopian capitalist ideals. |
| 00:34.48 | Supaplex | ultraj6: what do you need? |
| 00:35.09 | Rusty1 | maximi89: did you upgrade after a new install? |
| 00:35.24 | Supaplex | ChrisHansen: do you have a debian related question? |
| 00:35.24 | ChrisHansen | If you feel uncomfortable talking about your devotion to the Che and Karl Marx, we will leave at anytime by your command: !leave |
| 00:35.31 | ChrisHansen | Yes. |
| 00:35.55 | Supaplex | iScottNYC113: what's it going to do? |
| 00:35.57 | ultraj6 | i have a dl580 with 4gigs of ram and 2 xeon 2.5ghz processors and 147gb raid 5 array |
| 00:35.58 | iScottNYC113 | I need to create pseudocode that represents this |
| 00:36.00 | iScottNYC113 | Your pay calculation pseudocode must be changed to accept input from a file. You need to read each record from the file, calculate the correct pay and stop as soon as the end of file has been reached. |
| 00:36.16 | iScottNYC113 | i need to add that action to what i have done already |
| 00:36.17 | ChrisHansen | Why does Debian's package manager, apt, by default have such a bias against those who monetize intellectual property in order to create wealth? |
| 00:36.26 | iScottNYC113 | its a payroll app |
| 00:36.44 | ChrisHansen | Remember, you can leave at anytime with !leave |
| 00:36.44 | module000 | !ops ChrisHansen = political troll |
| 00:36.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: module000 complains about: ChrisHansen = political troll |
| 00:36.47 | Supaplex | ChrisHansen: to flush out the trolls. |
| 00:36.48 | ultraj6 | want to virtualize various security things |
| 00:36.48 | iScottNYC113 | this is what i have so far If hours > 40 |
| 00:36.48 | iScottNYC113 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.48 | iScottNYC113 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.49 | iScottNYC113 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:37.06 | ultraj6 | lol |
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| 00:37.17 | iScottNYC113 | sry |
| 00:37.19 | iScottNYC113 | thats what i have so far |
| 00:37.32 | Supaplex | iScottNYC113: I think you need a basic programming tutorial. |
| 00:37.57 | Supaplex | any language will do really. |
| 00:38.05 | ChrisHansen | Without capitalism, children couldn't go to public schools because there would be no taxes. |
| 00:38.09 | module000 | iScottNYC113: are you trying to make a hourly pay calculator that includes overtime? |
| 00:38.18 | iScottNYC113 | yes |
| 00:38.23 | iScottNYC113 | i just need to add: Your pay calculation pseudocode must be changed to accept input from a file. You need to read each record from the file, calculate the correct pay and stop as soon as the end of file has been reached. |
| 00:38.33 | iScottNYC113 | input from a file |
| 00:38.36 | ultraj6 | what does debian install when you chooose only standard system package? |
| 00:38.37 | iScottNYC113 | how to I reoresent that |
| 00:38.47 | iScottNYC113 | "represent" |
| 00:38.51 | Supaplex | ChrisHansen: this is all OT. this isn't the place to discuss that. |
| 00:38.53 | ChrisHansen | So, unfortunately, those who use Debian, as adults, are harming children--not as much of an extrapolation as you might think. |
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| 00:39.02 | maximi891 | sorry guys |
| 00:39.06 | module000 | iScottNYC113: http://pastebin.com/m16c66177 it does what you want, i made it a few years back |
| 00:39.10 | maximi891 | the internet is not so good here |
| 00:39.12 | iScottNYC113 | ok cool thx |
| 00:39.23 | ChrisHansen | Saying "leave" will end this conversation and you will be free to go on. |
| 00:39.35 | maximi891 | what about my problem, sata? |
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| 00:40.40 | Supaplex | !tell ultraj6 -about best |
| 00:40.56 | ChrisHansen | You're free to go. |
| 00:40.57 | Supaplex | ultraj6: either choice may accomplish what you need. |
| 00:40.58 | maximi891 | the initramfs can be the problem?, i update with update-initramfs -ctv -k |
| 00:40.58 | Rusty1 | ChrisHansen: type the following : /join debian-offtopic, then /leave |
| 00:41.22 | ChrisHansen | *police arrest you* POLICE! GET DOWN ON THE GROUND, YOU SEX OFFENDING COMMIE! |
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| 00:41.32 | maximi891 | udev i dont believe, i change from 0.141 to 0125 and nothing |
| 00:41.48 | Rusty1 | bows |
| 00:42.07 | Rusty1 | maximi89: did you upgrade after a new install? |
| 00:42.11 | Tenkawa | ponders Lenny on a dell mini versus the acer aspire one... |
| 00:42.21 | maximi891 | yes |
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| 00:42.44 | Uckingroll | Now we're all going to jail. =( |
| 00:42.47 | Akuw | i have problems to see youtube |
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| 00:42.54 | Akuw | but i have plugin installed |
| 00:43.04 | maximi891 | Akuw: what say about:plugins |
| 00:43.07 | Rusty1 | maximi89: why unstable? |
| 00:43.19 | ultraj6 | will virtualizing microsoft operating systems in xen on debian yield better performance than using vmware virtual server on debian? |
| 00:43.26 | maximi891 | because i like troubles XD |
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| 00:43.36 | maximi891 | i report when i find them |
| 00:43.38 | Akuw | application/x-shockwave-flash Adobe Flash movie swf Sí |
| 00:43.39 | Akuw | application/futuresplash FutureSplash movie spl Sí |
| 00:44.01 | ultraj6 | and what packages are installed when "standard system" is selected durng the software selection portion of the debian installer? |
| 00:44.14 | Rusty1 | maximi89: did you let the installer partition the drives automatically? |
| 00:44.57 | maximi891 | Rust1: sorry, i don't make a new install, only upgrade the system and run the new version with a single reboot |
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| 00:45.18 | maximi891 | grub dont works with the UUID |
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| 00:45.44 | maximi891 | and dont detect the devices, i think are a modules problems.. |
| 00:46.00 | maximi891 | i mean devices yes, but no partitions. |
| 00:46.12 | maximi891 | and works only when the disk are alone |
| 00:46.19 | maximi891 | so modules can't be... |
| 00:46.26 | maximi891 | or can be? |
| 00:46.45 | adb | maximi891: i'll recheck sata cables |
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| 00:47.37 | maximi891 | adb: yes i recheck sata cables |
| 00:47.39 | maximi891 | all fine |
| 00:47.51 | adb | change their order |
| 00:48.00 | maximi891 | the think more strange are with live cd, all works nicely |
| 00:48.18 | maximi891 | only the initramfs or udev cand detect the partitions, it's really strange |
| 00:48.19 | Uckingroll | Held, ChrisHansen told me Debian is illegal. |
| 00:48.28 | ultraj6 | chris hansen can suck my balls |
| 00:49.09 | Akuw | then? |
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| 00:51.05 | jaggz- | is there a way to make konsole's scroll/refresh faster? I can kind of see the line of the redraw |
| 00:52.52 | Akuw | i can't see youtube videos still |
| 00:54.17 | maximi891 | Akuw: |
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| 00:54.30 | maximi891 | Akuw: sorry i m looking Dr. House |
| 00:54.38 | maximi891 | wait a few minuts more |
| 00:54.46 | adb | Akuw: logout /login done ? |
| 00:55.16 | adb | or restart all iceweasel sessions |
| 00:55.42 | Akuw | yeah |
| 00:56.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.25 | adb | does what ? |
| 00:56.28 | jaggz- | also, matchbox-keyboard for someone with a disability -- it messes up windows.. it forces them to be the bottom half or 3rd of the screen and you can't make them bigger.. |
| 00:57.40 | maximi891 | lol Dr. House it's like a heroe! xD |
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| 00:59.02 | Akuw | libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt libtotem-mully-plugin.so |
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| 00:59.17 | Rusty1 | Akuw: has apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and restart iceweasel ? |
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| 00:59.26 | Akuw | sorry |
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| 00:59.32 | Rusty1 | Akuw: has apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and restart iceweasel ? |
| 00:59.33 | gerald | hi, my /tmp is currently just a directory on my root partition; would it speed things up to make it backed by RAM somehow? what's the cleanest way to do so? (debian lenny) |
| 00:59.58 | maximi891 | Akuw: ok i going to check |
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| 01:00.31 | maximi891 | Akuw: sudo updatedb |
| 01:00.41 | maximi891 | Akuw: locate libflash |
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| 01:01.18 | Akuw | /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0/program/libflashli.so |
| 01:01.42 | maximi891 | you make the updatedb? |
| 01:01.52 | Akuw | waity+ |
| 01:01.55 | maximi891 | ok |
| 01:02.21 | gerald | can I just mount /dev/shm as /tmp ? |
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| 01:08.15 | maximi891 | where i can see what modules use my hdd? |
| 01:08.26 | maximi891 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:10.15 | beardy | !wiui maximi891 |
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| 01:10.15 | dpkg | maximi891: When trying to umount a drive, and it's busy, or just to list which processes uses a certain thing, a device, a port, and so on, run lsof(8) or fuser(1), i e like this 'lsof /dev/cdrom' (as root) to see which process and user that's using it. Also ask me about "fuser" and "lsof" |
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| 01:10.53 | grendal_prime | is there a way to allow remote login for the root user ONLY if it is done via authorized key? |
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| 01:11.34 | beardy | grendal_prime: It's keys only for everyone, and root login either on or off afaik. |
| 01:11.53 | Akuw | maximi891: are you there? |
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| 01:12.45 | natalie_ | Can anyone suggest how I can track internet usage for our small office? web traffic by user (ip address)? open source preferrably. |
| 01:13.00 | Tramp | grendal_prime: man sshd_config; search for "AllowUsers" |
| 01:13.18 | swolchok | natalie_: you'll have to be more specific -- what do you mean by "track internet usage"? |
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| 01:13.59 | natalie_ | swolchok: just want to be able to have a tool to show which web-sites are being visited from the office |
| 01:14.06 | maximi891 | Akuw: yes im here |
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| 01:14.55 | Tramp | natalie_: install a proxy, force its usage, check its logs. Be aware of legal issues |
| 01:15.00 | joltcan | natalie_: If it is only websites, then I would suggest a transparent HTTP proxy like squid or polipo that has both caching and logging |
| 01:15.03 | swolchok | natalie_: can't really recommend anything, just knew your question wasn't sufficiently specific. ntop does that and much more, but it might not be suitable to leave running |
| 01:15.55 | natalie_ | joltcan: sounds good, is there any good tool that can summarize the logs from squid so they would be easy to read? |
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| 01:16.25 | natalie_ | Tramp: The users are aware of the policy internally |
| 01:16.26 | joltcan | natalie_: google, as always: http://www.squid-cache.org/Scripts/ |
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| 01:16.57 | natalie_ | joltcan: thank you, don't mean to seem lazy |
| 01:17.11 | joltcan | natalie_: However, I had a good experience with webalyzer, but that was some years back |
| 01:17.15 | PiousMinion | Anyone know what an appropriate channel would be for some basic regexp help? |
| 01:17.30 | natalie_ | joltcan: I'll look into it thanks :) |
| 01:17.36 | joltcan | natalie_: U'r welcome. No problem, just wanted to point out that there are a bunch |
| 01:17.47 | natalie_ | joltcan: right |
| 01:17.59 | joltcan | natalie_: But I liked the polipo cache better, don't know about analyzers for it, but I guess it can log common HTTP format |
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| 01:18.11 | joltcan | natalie_: so that any HTTP analyser can be used |
| 01:18.14 | Tramp | natalie_: IANAL, but in my country having a policy and keeping and/or inspecting personalized logfiles are different things. But as I said, ymmv. Make sure to check with a lawyer to stay out of trouble (is my advice) |
| 01:18.36 | natalie_ | Tramp: thanks I will |
| 01:18.47 | natalie_ | joltcan: I will look at polipo also |
| 01:19.37 | joltcan | PiousMinion: if you just want an intro, then http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/4.4/regex-intro.html is pretty good |
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| 01:19.55 | maximi891 | the thing more strange of my case it's the grub it's on a non recognized disk |
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| 01:20.30 | PiousMinion | joltcan: I've read a lot of intros and docs and what (I think) logically should work.... doesn't. :/ |
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| 01:21.41 | Tramp | PiousMinion: how about #regex? |
| 01:21.56 | joltcan | PiousMinion: Sometimes when I played with regex I use an online tester. Makes it more simple |
| 01:22.21 | PiousMinion | Tramp: hah, I actually tried that but was joining regex"p". :P |
| 01:22.37 | joltcan | Hehe, a common mistake |
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| 01:23.06 | Tramp | yeah. They probably lose hundreds of customers |
| 01:25.06 | maximi891 | hey guys |
| 01:25.20 | maximi891 | i think this can be my probem... [11805.460686] device-mapper: table: 254:0: striped: Couldn't parse stripe destination |
| 01:25.21 | maximi891 | [11805.460695] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table |
| 01:25.41 | maximi891 | i connect my sata lol |
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| 01:26.46 | njk- | anyone here handy with fai? |
| 01:27.06 | jaggz- | why's my computer turn on but only the fan go on, then it turns back off? it was on last night too :( what happen' ? |
| 01:27.28 | maximi891 | lol |
| 01:27.49 | maximi891 | maybe he like the hell |
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| 01:29.40 | adb | jaggz-: hardware failure ? |
| 01:29.58 | maximi891 | i think the same |
| 01:30.19 | Akuw | maximi891: can you help |
| 01:30.44 | jpinx-eeepc | jaggz-: bad RAM? |
| 01:30.48 | maximi891 | try to disconnect RAM, if the mother board make a sound like BIp, that still live |
| 01:31.00 | maximi891 | Akuw: yes i can help |
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| 01:31.37 | Akuw | i can see youtube |
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| 01:31.42 | maximi891 | lol |
| 01:31.44 | adb | Akuw: ls /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/ | grep libflashplayer.so |
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| 01:31.53 | maximi891 | how do you do that? |
| 01:32.36 | Akuw | no results |
| 01:32.39 | adb | ah , forget it |
| 01:33.05 | maximi891 | Akuw: updatedb stop? |
| 01:33.07 | adb | now you can see youtube |
| 01:33.24 | Akuw | yeah |
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| 01:33.39 | adb | !win Akuw |
| 01:33.39 | dpkg | Congratulations, Akuw! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 01:34.00 | maximi891 | Akuw: lol |
| 01:34.01 | Akuw | hehehe |
| 01:34.07 | maximi891 | awesome |
| 01:34.16 | Akuw | i can see movies |
| 01:34.38 | adb | want a new win! ? |
| 01:34.39 | Akuw | but look like 15 frames per second |
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| 01:35.17 | maximi891 | Akuw: you have a nVidia or ATI video card? |
| 01:35.20 | adb | buy a better card |
| 01:35.21 | Akuw | what is the problem with flash in this iceweasel? |
| 01:35.26 | Akuw | ATI |
| 01:35.43 | Akuw | but with Etch there was no that problem |
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| 01:36.05 | maximi891 | Akuw: what about characteristics? |
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| 01:36.11 | Akuw | i want to see this too http://demo15.hwdmediashare.co.uk/View-Video/252/Shake-it.html |
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| 01:36.18 | Akuw | but can`t |
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| 01:36.32 | maximi891 | mmm |
| 01:36.41 | maximi891 | i have some problems with that shit of flash |
| 01:37.01 | Akuw | hehehehe |
| 01:37.07 | maximi891 | i have sound problems |
| 01:37.27 | maximi891 | when the sound have troubles i put "speaker-test" on terminal |
| 01:37.30 | maximi891 | and sound back |
| 01:37.39 | jpinx-eeepc | flash is just crap - the only solution I found was a faster CPU and lots more RAM |
| 01:37.53 | maximi891 | lol |
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| 01:38.01 | maximi891 | i'm waiting for gnash |
| 01:38.18 | maximi891 | i have a nvidia 256MB TC |
| 01:38.25 | maximi891 | GF 6200 TC |
| 01:38.36 | swolchok | gnash is definitely on my "things that don't work" list |
| 01:38.50 | maximi891 | thats not so cool... |
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| 01:39.01 | maximi891 | and what another projects exist? |
| 01:39.22 | maximi891 | the flashplayer of adobe make crash my opera |
| 01:39.45 | maximi891 | and the iceweasel some times shoot me using the CPU 99% per cent |
| 01:39.53 | Akuw | then i can't play that http://demo15.hwdmediashare.co.uk/View-Video/252/Shake-it.html ? |
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| 01:40.11 | jpinx-eeepc | yea - iceweasel with flash *eats* cpu |
| 01:40.25 | Supaplex | nom nom nom cpu |
| 01:40.34 | jpinx-eeepc | is not even going to click that link |
| 01:40.36 | maximi891 | i don't have flash on my opera, and the iceweasel it's closed, because have like 180 tabs XD |
| 01:40.48 | maximi891 | and my pc have troubles with grub |
| 01:41.08 | Supaplex | and the two are related? o.O |
| 01:41.24 | maximi891 | lol i dont find any thing yet |
| 01:41.35 | jpinx-eeepc | distant cousins :p |
| 01:41.47 | maximi891 | the hardk disk are not detected partitions |
| 01:42.02 | maximi891 | and now running i connect one harddisk |
| 01:42.05 | maximi891 | and run nicely XD |
| 01:42.09 | bball | A server will not allow a LOOKUP operation to cross a mountpoint to the root of a different filesystem, even if the filesystem is exported. |
| 01:42.14 | maximi891 | but when i boot dont want to run |
| 01:42.24 | bball | sorry about that :-) |
| 01:42.58 | maximi891 | T.T |
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| 01:43.39 | maximi891 | i dont undertand why happen this... some time ago my system works nicely and i was playing urban terror |
| 01:43.56 | maximi891 | now i cant play urban terror, but when i poweron my computer i have terror XD |
| 01:44.08 | Akuw | what is Swfdec ? |
| 01:45.04 | maximi891 | uhmm |
| 01:45.23 | maximi891 | i dont remember but its flash |
| 01:45.23 | maximi891 | XD |
| 01:45.26 | Akuw | well the case is |
| 01:45.37 | Akuw | i need to play some videos embeded in a web page |
| 01:45.38 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:46.01 | adb | w/o final point |
| 01:46.37 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.26 | maximi891 | Akuw: but you can't see the video, but the flash are loading the webpage? |
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| 01:48.12 | Akuw | i can see the video |
| 01:48.23 | Akuw | but look like 15 fps |
| 01:48.24 | maximi891 | so whats the matter? |
| 01:48.30 | Akuw | and audio probelms |
| 01:48.31 | maximi891 | right |
| 01:48.49 | Akuw | some times there is jumps |
| 01:48.49 | maximi891 | the sound are different time at video? |
| 01:48.54 | manu_hack | hi guys, I remember there is a site under debian.xxx.xxx where it's all about the comparison of different language implementations, I lost the link I appreciate if anyone could post me here, thanks a LOT!!! |
| 01:48.55 | Akuw | yes |
| 01:48.58 | maximi891 | lol the same happen to me XD |
| 01:49.05 | Akuw | heheheh |
| 01:49.06 | maximi891 | try with speaker-test |
| 01:49.09 | Akuw | hoo i see |
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| 01:49.15 | Akuw | is comomn problem |
| 01:49.27 | Akuw | no is not only with audio |
| 01:49.40 | Akuw | there is jumps in frames of video |
| 01:49.45 | maximi891 | ok |
| 01:49.46 | dondelelcaro | maximi891: you're talking about the status of i18n? or l10n? see http://i18n.debian.net/wiki/ for example |
| 01:49.47 | maximi891 | try this |
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| 01:50.04 | dondelelcaro | s/maximi891/manu_hack/ |
| 01:50.09 | maximi891 | i don't undertands XD |
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| 01:51.01 | maximi891 | Akuw: well, go on iceweasel to addons, and look for the flash player plugin |
| 01:51.12 | maximi891 | disable it and reenable |
| 01:51.18 | maximi891 | that hepl me all the times |
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| 01:54.07 | elik | I have May 13 21:45:01 trinity /USR/SBIN/CRON[16848]: (root) CMD (command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1) in my syslog, and I don't quite like, nor understand :( |
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| 01:54.48 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the method to be able to click the flash items you want to see, but the rest stay off |
| 01:55.32 | maximi891 | dondelelcaro: que me decÃas? |
| 01:55.43 | dondelelcaro | maximi891: that message was for manu_hack, not you |
| 01:56.03 | dondelelcaro | maximi891: s/a/b/ means substitute b for a. |
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| 01:56.13 | maximi891 | oh ok |
| 01:56.45 | Isum | I'm using SUSE 11.0 and considering changing. What might be the advantages of using Debian? |
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| 01:57.17 | maximi891 | and why you dont make the change? |
| 01:57.35 | jpinx-eeepc | Isum: make the change and find out;) |
| 01:57.46 | maximi891 | you can we trust! |
| 01:57.51 | elik | dondelelcaro, any idea on that cron log entry? |
| 01:58.02 | streuner_ | Isum: /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 01:58.09 | dondelelcaro | elik: I don't know what command is, but you can check the crontabs and see what it is |
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| 01:58.45 | elik | dondelelcaro, where would root's crontab be? |
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| 01:59.36 | dondelelcaro | elik: /etc/crontab or /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root |
| 01:59.41 | Akuw | where is addons? |
| 01:59.42 | dondelelcaro | elik: there's also /etc/cron.d |
| 02:00.18 | maximi891 | Akuw: on tools i think |
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| 02:00.49 | Akuw | there are 2 |
| 02:01.02 | maximi891 | too flash? |
| 02:01.06 | maximi891 | two flash? |
| 02:01.17 | Akuw | yeah |
| 02:01.18 | maximi891 | lol |
| 02:01.27 | maximi891 | leave only the 10.0.0.r22 |
| 02:01.35 | maximi891 | the r15 disable it |
| 02:01.44 | maximi891 | tell the versions... better |
| 02:01.50 | elik | dondelelcaro, there is 5-55/10 * * * * root command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1 |
| 02:01.50 | Akuw | application/x-shockwave-flash |
| 02:01.59 | Akuw | application/futuresplash |
| 02:02.21 | Isum | Ok, I like what I read. |
| 02:02.30 | Isum | Is it more difficult to use than SuSE? |
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| 02:03.10 | streuner_ | You should be able to read and to learn, basically you have to learn in every OS. |
| 02:03.22 | Isum | heh heh, ok, fair enough. |
| 02:04.04 | elik | dondelelcaro, no man to command though :( |
| 02:04.24 | maximi891 | Akuw: i can't help you now, i need to check my iceweasel, but im have homework to do right now |
| 02:04.40 | elik | dondelelcaro, I see that man is a builtin command |
| 02:04.50 | Akuw | ok |
| 02:05.19 | dondelelcaro | elik: in what file is that? |
| 02:05.22 | maximi891 | i need learn english |
| 02:05.23 | maximi891 | XD |
| 02:05.24 | maximi891 | ahahah |
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| 02:06.46 | dondelelcaro | elik: ah, it's part of sysstat |
| 02:07.04 | elik | dondelelcaro, ok, is it just the "heartbeat"? |
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| 02:08.36 | Stanlin | adb: if you use Debian, you are a communist |
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| 02:09.32 | adb | Stanlin: stop it please |
| 02:09.39 | Isum | heh |
| 02:09.43 | streuner_ | well, nowadays its for me not an insult anymore :-) |
| 02:10.57 | Isum | Ok, don't jump me too hard if this question is...uninformed....but...I've never installed one type of Linux over another. Since my home directory is ext3, can I keep it as my home dir if I install debian over suse? |
| 02:11.13 | beardy | Isum: Yes you can. |
| 02:11.21 | Isum | Ok, cool. |
| 02:11.42 | beardy | Isum: Before you install Debian instead, make sure you backup your /home though. |
| 02:11.55 | Isum | Naturally. |
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| 02:15.31 | Ricky_RocK | someone know the command to search a name in all file on my server grep ??? what |
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| 02:18.10 | ioulots | hi guys! |
| 02:18.20 | ioulots | I'm trying to package my own kernel from vanilla sources |
| 02:18.43 | streuner_ | why |
| 02:18.57 | ioulots | atm i'm using http://pastebin.com/f5f4858ed |
| 02:19.09 | ioulots | streuner_: drm for ati in 2.6.30 rc |
| 02:19.12 | flaccid | my syslog for some reason in 2 hours in front of system time, how can i fix this |
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| 02:19.40 | ioulots | i'm curious why the generated package is called linux-image-2.6.30-rc5.090513_2.6.30-rc5.090513-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb |
| 02:19.52 | ioulots | ie, there appears to be duplicated name |
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| 02:22.06 | eccentri1 | Ricky_RocK: in all file contents: grep -R "phrase" /* --- for all file names: find / -name '*phrase*' |
| 02:24.17 | pd_tsc | if debian makes me a commie what does windows make the majority? fascists i bet |
| 02:24.23 | streuner__ | ioulots: check this out: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official |
| 02:24.25 | pd_tsc | and OSX users are the bourgoise |
| 02:24.37 | elik | pd_tsc, don't feed the troll |
| 02:25.05 | streuner__ | Do you want start a poll? |
| 02:25.09 | streuner__ | about* |
| 02:26.08 | streuner | pd_tsc: #debian-offtopic please :-) |
| 02:26.16 | enouf | ioulots: is the -10.00 the kernel-package version? |
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| 02:29.51 | acu01 | hey guys - is anyplace - anybody ready to tutor me in setting up a mailserver with lenny, postfix - postgresql-cyrus IMAP or dovecot - squirellmail ? - I know a bit of each - but I can't make it work properly - and I am willing to pay someone to help me to get it done (we can use x11vnc or tightvnc - and I can make a call so I can get it done - |
| 02:30.58 | flaccid_ | acu01 i don't think you will need to go that far |
| 02:31.13 | streuner | acu01: http://debian.org/support#consultants |
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| 02:31.56 | flaccid_ | im doing the exact same thing atm and have succeeded its pretty easy |
| 02:32.58 | ioulots | enouf: nope, package successfully installed at version 2.6.30-rc5.$(date) |
| 02:33.19 | ioulots | enouf: aptitude doesn't mention the 10 anywhere |
| 02:33.44 | ioulots | streuner: that's the guide I used |
| 02:34.15 | enouf | judd: versions kernel-package |
| 02:34.16 | judd | enouf: kernel-package -- etch: 10.067 sid: 11.012 lenny: 11.015 sid: 11.017 sid: 12.013 squeeze: 12.013 |
| 02:34.16 | ioulots | oh well, it seems i didn't use revision |
| 02:34.30 | ioulots | but i remember reading somwhere that that was deprecated |
| 02:34.49 | streuner | the main thing, that it fix your issue... |
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| 02:35.09 | ioulots | judd: nah, i'm building a custom kernel.. having issues with versioning being duplicaed |
| 02:35.10 | judd | ioulots: Error: "nah," is not a valid command. |
| 02:35.20 | ioulots | oh wow bot oops |
| 02:35.28 | enouf | heh |
| 02:35.34 | streuner | yeah, judd is a bot |
| 02:35.49 | ioulots | though he misunderstood your q |
| 02:35.54 | B1zz | I am on Debian 5.0 and have installed the official NVIDIA driver (180.29) When I issue the command glxinfo | grep -i "direct rendering" to test 3d accel. I get the following Error: glXCreateContext failed |
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| 02:36.33 | elik | B1zz, did you set Xorg to use it? |
| 02:36.44 | elik | B1zz, what does lsmod | grep nvidia says? |
| 02:37.10 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:38.10 | B1zz | http://pastebin.com/m3c06104b output of lsmod |
| 02:38.40 | ioulots | enouf: for me? |
| 02:39.02 | elik | B1zz, so it seems that nvidia module is loaded |
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| 02:39.21 | B1zz | yeah, and it seems everything that has to do with glx gives me the same error |
| 02:39.25 | elik | B1zz, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:39.47 | enouf | ioulots: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 02:40.55 | ioulots | okay |
| 02:41.00 | corpcomp21 | I can't seem to find this information. I want to know how to access a windows server share from a debian server. Any pointers would be helpful. |
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| 02:41.42 | B1zz | http://pastebin.com/m55f5d1ca for X11 |
| 02:42.02 | flaccid_ | acu01 any problems so far? |
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| 02:43.29 | elik | B1zz, seems fine as well... |
| 02:43.51 | B1zz | yeah seems strange to me |
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| 02:46.44 | elik | B1zz, someone better than me will have to help you :P |
| 02:47.02 | B1zz | thanks for you time tho man |
| 02:47.25 | Darkclaw66 | anyone have kde application crash that traces from /lib/libthr.so.3 |
| 02:47.43 | maximi891 | guys, i have a message like this http://blogdrake.net/node/16181 |
| 02:47.54 | maximi891 | cant mount /proc /sys |
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| 02:51.17 | tonybaba | I try to compile something from source on Lenny. After typing "./configure" I get a message: Package liblzo-dev is not available...However the following packages replace it: liblzo2-dev E: Package liblzo-dev has no installation candidate. Can I force to use liblzo-dev? |
| 02:51.52 | adb | judd: versions liblzo-dev |
| 02:51.53 | judd | adb: liblzo-dev -- etch: 1.08-3 |
| 02:51.59 | streuner | what kind of app is that? |
| 02:52.04 | enouf | eww |
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| 02:52.21 | tonybaba | it's XBMC a media center solution |
| 02:52.27 | adb | tonybaba: ^^^ |
| 02:53.13 | tonybaba | end of discussion? :) |
| 02:53.29 | adb | install etch ? |
| 02:54.30 | streuner | !listvals xbmc |
| 02:54.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'xbmc' by value returned no results. |
| 02:54.55 | enouf | xbox media center? |
| 02:55.10 | enouf | eww |
| 02:55.12 | tonybaba | yes |
| 02:55.46 | B1zz | I was going to say Boxxe, but that is only on Ubuntu |
| 02:55.47 | adb | apt-cache search media center |
| 02:55.53 | tonybaba | I have been using it since 2003 |
| 02:56.01 | adb | python-elisa - media center solution - Python library |
| 02:56.08 | enouf | just go grab the pkg you need from pdo - or install the newer one, and work it out, or backport it |
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| 02:56.54 | enouf | judd: versions liblzo2-dev |
| 02:56.55 | judd | enouf: liblzo2-dev -- etch: 2.02-2 lenny: 2.03-1 sid: 2.03-1 squeeze: 2.03-1 |
| 02:57.34 | streuner | according to wikipedia you cannot ship binaries of xbmc... |
| 02:57.54 | streuner | but its GPL |
| 02:58.17 | Jewfro-Macabbi | the tool used to compile it is proprietary to MS |
| 02:58.27 | enouf | they should've made the rule for AOL cds :-p |
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| 02:59.30 | streuner | hm |
| 03:00.19 | tonybaba | I will look up how to backport the new version. |
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| 03:03.05 | maximi891 | akuw: are you there? |
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| 03:10.39 | maximi891 | guys |
| 03:10.54 | maximi891 | i dont understand this part... |
| 03:11.22 | maximi891 | /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 03:11.39 | maximi891 | http://pastebin.ca/1422306 |
| 03:11.54 | maximi891 | that don't show one of the partitions... that's normally? |
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| 03:12.22 | adb | ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 03:12.34 | flaccid | my syslog time is +2 hours wrong. how can i fix this? it could be because of chroot? also need to configure mail log messages to only go to /var/log/mail.* ? |
| 03:13.02 | maximi891 | http://pastebin.ca/1422307 |
| 03:13.15 | maximi891 | adb: there is |
| 03:13.53 | adb | ? |
| 03:14.26 | maximi891 | i dont understand why dont show when i put the ls -l XD |
| 03:15.00 | adb | dont show what ? |
| 03:15.03 | maximi891 | sorry and thanks |
| 03:15.41 | maximi891 | i mean when i put ls -l /dev/disk-by-uuid don't appear the uuid of /dev/sda8 |
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| 03:15.52 | maximi891 | but with -al options appear |
| 03:17.10 | maximi891 | lol my mistake |
| 03:17.37 | maximi891 | how can i see what modules use the CD? |
| 03:17.42 | maximi891 | i mean HDD |
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| 03:25.40 | maximi891 | adb: i think i found something related to my problem of Disk... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Evms |
| 03:25.52 | maximi891 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/115616 |
| 03:26.19 | adb | great |
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| 03:27.34 | enouf | maxagaz: ~$ lshal | grep driver |
| 03:28.09 | enouf | if it's loaded, also lsmod, and other places/tools would show it |
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| 03:28.43 | enouf | !listvals evms |
| 03:28.45 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'evms' by value (1): evms. |
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| 03:29.50 | enouf | !evms |
| 03:29.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, evms is Enterprise Volume Management System, http://evms.sf.net/ |
| 03:30.01 | enouf | ewww |
| 03:30.16 | kevin01123 | How would I go about getting java to work in Iceweasel in 64 bit Debian Lenny? |
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| 03:34.26 | ajavid | hey |
| 03:34.51 | ajavid | I have install xfonts-terminus, even restarted X, still none of my java apps can see this font in the font selection dialog |
| 03:36.06 | ajavid | kenjy, just install a jre/jvm |
| 03:36.14 | ajavid | nm |
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| 03:41.06 | Koiann | eu to aqui ! |
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| 03:47.51 | kiraa | sometimes, hotplug causes my system to freeze during boot up, I cant really disable it since I need it to detect my USB ethernet adapter, is there a way around this? |
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| 03:50.58 | Wyzard | B1zz: sounds like the driver isn't properly installed... did you use their script, or the Debian packages? |
| 03:51.19 | B1zz | I used the script from the Nvidia site |
| 03:51.25 | [ka]killer | odd |
| 03:51.32 | [ka]killer | the command is ifconfg correct? |
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| 03:52.08 | maximi891 | B1zz: i think there are a newer version than 180.29 |
| 03:52.14 | maximi891 | like 180.50 or 41 |
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| 03:52.37 | B1zz | Yeah, I see that, but will it fix my 3d accel problem? |
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| 03:52.49 | [ka]killer | is ifconfg or ipconfg? |
| 03:52.52 | maximi891 | i dont know |
| 03:52.56 | maximi891 | ifconfig |
| 03:53.02 | maximi891 | requieres sudo |
| 03:53.08 | [ka]killer | yeah i just realized that |
| 03:53.11 | B1zz | I am hesitante to install those new ones, for I got my system running pretty smooth except for the 3d accel |
| 03:53.15 | Wyzard | B1zz: Uninstall that and use the packages instead |
| 03:54.14 | enouf | isn't there som LIBGL_DEBUG variable one can set / use? |
| 03:54.15 | B1zz | packages as in synaptic install? |
| 03:54.40 | Wyzard | !tell B1zz about nvidia |
| 03:54.50 | enouf | it's probably the wrong nvidia-glx versions or something |
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| 03:55.55 | ajavid | I have two virtual hosts in sites-enabled, and when I go to. vhost A goes to A_docroot, its fine, vhost B however, also goes to A_docroot, but its configured to have a diff document root |
| 03:56.00 | ajavid | what could be going on? |
| 03:56.03 | B1zz | Ah, I see |
| 03:56.42 | ajavid | anyone? |
| 03:56.55 | B1zz | Thank you for the guidance Wyzard, I will check that channel |
| 03:57.31 | [ka]killer | um... that was a bad idea |
| 03:58.02 | [ka]killer | cat initrd.img |
| 03:58.37 | Wyzard | [ka]killer: If your terminal is displaying weird characters instead of a prompt, type "reset" |
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| 03:58.50 | [ka]killer | yeah i just reboot |
| 03:59.24 | enouf | ajavid: set VirtualHost correctly? |
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| 03:59.41 | ajavid | enouf, join #apache |
| 03:59.54 | ajavid | enouf, and yes |
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| 04:00.35 | Wyzard | [ka]killer: Rebooting the whole system to fix a confused terminal is like selling your house and buying a new one because you got a dent in one of the walls |
| 04:00.39 | Decepticon | how can i change my time to the atomic clock time |
| 04:00.43 | Decepticon | on command line |
| 04:00.50 | Decepticon | and how can i change my time zone |
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| 04:01.21 | [ka]killer | im tired Wyzard |
| 04:01.26 | enouf | Wyzard: as long as the dent was from head banging, it's ok :-p |
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| 04:01.30 | [ka]killer | right now im just happy to finally have an OS installed on this system |
| 04:01.39 | [ka]killer | it was being a pain about booting from teh disc i burned |
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| 04:01.57 | ajavid | enouf, seriously, do you know anything about this or what? |
| 04:02.02 | enouf | no |
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| 04:02.08 | enouf | just what i mentioned |
| 04:02.11 | ajavid | ok |
| 04:02.13 | ajavid | thanks |
| 04:02.19 | enouf | np |
| 04:02.26 | Wyzard | [ka]killer: Now you know for the future: "reset" will fix your terminal, so you don't have to kill all your other processes and reboot |
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| 04:02.29 | [ka]killer | yeah |
| 04:02.37 | [ka]killer | well i didnt have any other processes running yet... |
| 04:02.47 | [ka]killer | i quite literally just finished the install |
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| 04:03.47 | [ka]killer | dam it im too out of command line... its tar -? to untar a file... |
| 04:04.21 | enouf | xvzf for a tar.gz |
| 04:04.33 | ajavid | Restarting web server: apache2[Wed May 13 23:04:12 2009] [warn] VirtualHost ws1.podzone.org:8181 overlaps with VirtualHost zf1.podzone.org:8181, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive |
| 04:04.34 | enouf | remove the z if just .tar |
| 04:04.37 | ajavid | here I found some more info |
| 04:04.39 | [ka]killer | thanks |
| 04:04.43 | enouf | v is optional |
| 04:04.57 | Wyzard | ajavid: NameVirtualHost is it |
| 04:05.07 | enouf | bingo |
| 04:05.09 | ajavid | Wyzard, where does this directive go? |
| 04:05.17 | ajavid | in the vhost file? |
| 04:05.23 | ajavid | under sites-available? |
| 04:05.42 | ajavid | doh |
| 04:06.47 | ajavid | I don't get it. |
| 04:07.29 | ajavid | oh |
| 04:07.34 | ajavid | boy |
| 04:07.51 | Decepticon | how do i chane my timezone on command line interface? |
| 04:07.51 | Wyzard | ajavid: Take a look in /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 04:07.53 | maximi891 | adb: hey i found something more, a old bug about the rules of udev... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 |
| 04:08.08 | enouf | Set up a Virtual Host directive in the Virtual Hosts section of httpd.conf. Below is an example of how to set up the your_domain website to forward all URLs with "servlet" in the path to Tomcat: |
| 04:08.11 | maximi891 | maybe that corrupt the rules when that are creating the devices... |
| 04:08.11 | ajavid | ohhh |
| 04:08.14 | ajavid | Wyzard, thanks man |
| 04:08.22 | ajavid | Wyzard, was wondering where in apache2 they put this |
| 04:08.34 | enouf | heh. from 2003 on RH 9 :-P |
| 04:08.39 | ajavid | man it is pretty damn differently structured than 1.3 |
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| 04:08.49 | ajavid | why o why didn't i stick to 1.3 but oh well, its good learning |
| 04:08.51 | enouf | ~$ rgrep -l NameVirtualHost /usr/share/doc |
| 04:09.43 | ajavid | enouf, I'm noob. |
| 04:09.44 | Wyzard | ajavid: because 1.3 is no longer supported |
| 04:09.44 | ajavid | heh |
| 04:09.44 | ajavid | yeh |
| 04:10.53 | maximi891 | i going boot now with the changes, i hope report this fucking bug XD |
| 04:10.54 | unjustice | anyone know good commands to test sound, my dmesg gives no error for either audio card, but I cannot hear playback from vlc, amarok? |
| 04:10.56 | maximi891 | bye thanks! |
| 04:11.03 | ajavid | Wyzard, now it says i have no virtual hosts |
| 04:11.05 | ajavid | wtf |
| 04:11.14 | maximi891 | unjustice: speaker-test? |
| 04:11.25 | enouf | ajavid: yeah a2 is all modular - seen httpd.apache.org? :-) |
| 04:11.46 | enouf | !soundcheck |
| 04:11.46 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp ...use Ctrl-C to stop it after a few seconds. If it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 04:11.51 | ajavid | Wyzard, Restarting web server: apache2[Wed May 13 23:11:25 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost zf1.podzone.org:8181 has no VirtualHosts |
| 04:13.37 | Wyzard | ajavid: Did you write "NameVirtualHost zf1.podzone.org:8181" in your ports.conf? |
| 04:13.46 | unjustice | !soundcheck |
| 04:13.47 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp ...use Ctrl-C to stop it after a few seconds. If it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 04:13.50 | unjustice | ah |
| 04:14.19 | Decepticon | how do i change my timezone on command line interface? |
| 04:14.23 | ajavid | Wyzard, yes I did |
| 04:15.02 | Wyzard | ajavid: You probably want "NameVirtualHost *" |
| 04:15.10 | Wyzard | ajavid: Take a look at the docs for NameVirtualHost |
| 04:15.28 | ajavid | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost |
| 04:15.33 | ajavid | I have been since I found about it |
| 04:15.49 | ajavid | Wyzard, that was already there, what you said |
| 04:15.50 | enouf | i think you need an IP |
| 04:15.53 | ajavid | it was causing errors |
| 04:16.05 | Wyzard | "NameVirtualHost *" wasn't causing errors |
| 04:16.08 | ajavid | Although addr can be hostname it is recommended that you always use an IP address, e.g |
| 04:16.14 | ajavid | hang on |
| 04:16.14 | Wyzard | Your message was suggesting that you needed a NameVirtualHost |
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| 04:16.24 | unjustice | okay cat /dev/dsp says the device is currently busy and sound test works and then makes no soudn |
| 04:16.28 | kenboo | is packages.debian.org down again? |
| 04:16.30 | Wyzard | "NameVirtualHost *" means that name-based virtual hosting will be enabled on all your server's IPs |
| 04:16.36 | unjustice | how do I search for pulseaudio? |
| 04:16.45 | hacker_kid | im using the stock ssh config file, when i ssh in from a remote machine password authentication fails, but local to local works |
| 04:16.46 | Maya | by what mechanbism does debian 5 cache crypto keys in ram? |
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| 04:16.50 | Wyzard | The only reason not to use "*" is if you have several IPs and want to *not* use name-based vhosts on some of them |
| 04:17.02 | enouf | NameVirtualHost aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd |
| 04:17.15 | ajavid | yes |
| 04:17.17 | ajavid | I want name based |
| 04:17.40 | ajavid | Wyzard, in ports.conf I have NameVirtualHost * |
| 04:17.50 | acu01 | I am trying to setup a mail server on Debian Lenny - the problem is the following: I have my domain setup in mx as smtp.mydomain.us (at goddady) my Linux box (with static IP) spits out if I type hostname -f debian.WORKGROUP - but my emailserver I want to be smtp.mydomain.us ----- I changed the in main.cf and have at myhostname=smtp.mydomain.us and at mydestination = $mydomain ----- I saved the file - and restart postfix - how can I check that |
| 04:17.50 | acu01 | everything is OK |
| 04:17.53 | ajavid | Restarting web server: apache2[Wed May 13 23:17:27 2009] [warn] VirtualHost ws1.podzone.org:8181 overlaps with VirtualHost zf1.podzone.org:8181, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive |
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| 04:18.38 | ajavid | Wyzard, this is with what you said, so I had to comment that out, and without any NameVirtualHost directive at all, I get no errors or warnings, but of course it doesn't work right |
| 04:18.42 | enouf | unjustice: lsmod |
| 04:18.44 | enouf | er |
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| 04:18.51 | enouf | lsof i mean unjustice |
| 04:19.02 | Wyzard | hmm, actually since you're running on a non-standard port, you want NameVirtualHost *:8181 |
| 04:19.13 | Wyzard | and for each of your vhosts, <VirtualHost *:8181> |
| 04:19.15 | ajavid | same thing |
| 04:19.19 | ajavid | ok |
| 04:19.36 | ajavid | I'll do it what you say, just to make sure get rid of all possiblity |
| 04:19.37 | Wyzard | and ServerName ws.podzone.org or ServerName zf1.podzone.org within the VirtualHost block |
| 04:20.17 | enouf | file:///usr/share/doc/lg/issue86/misc/tag/named-host.httpd.conf |
| 04:20.41 | unjustice | enouf: lot of output, what are you looking for |
| 04:20.42 | ajavid | ohhhhhhh |
| 04:20.43 | unjustice | ? |
| 04:21.18 | enouf | unjustice: lsof | egrep 'pulse|flash|esd|arts' |
| 04:21.33 | enouf | <unjustice> how do I search for pulseaudio? |
| 04:22.11 | ajavid | Wyzard, the problem was that I had <VirtualHost 192.168.1.150:8181> |
| 04:22.15 | enouf | ajavid: my docs are old - for apache 1.3 .. but many things you guys are discussing seem almost the saem |
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| 04:22.41 | ajavid | enouf, they are, but somethings I didn't remember, I hadn't configured apache vhosts in year |
| 04:23.14 | ajavid | I basically tried to match up my configs from 1.3 as best as I could |
| 04:23.17 | ajavid | was missing a few components |
| 04:23.23 | enouf | unjustice: also fuser /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp |
| 04:23.37 | ajavid | Wyzard, it is good now, thank you very much |
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| 04:24.18 | ajavid | I have installed the xfonts-terminus package, and I am using sun-java6-jre and netbeans 6.7. I am not seeing the terminus font in Netbeans |
| 04:24.28 | enouf | ajavid: so <VirtualHost virt-host-name-1>> works properly? |
| 04:24.40 | ajavid | enouf, *:port |
| 04:24.44 | ajavid | thats it |
| 04:24.52 | enouf | name:8081 ? |
| 04:24.54 | enouf | ewww |
| 04:24.58 | ajavid | name? |
| 04:25.01 | ajavid | wtf are you on about |
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| 04:25.12 | TiMiDo | can someone tell me the command to see you're cpu information? |
| 04:25.12 | ajavid | http://ws.podzone.org/waterbottle |
| 04:25.14 | enouf | oh a * |
| 04:25.20 | enouf | literal * |
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| 04:25.24 | ajavid | ** |
| 04:25.26 | ajavid | ? |
| 04:25.40 | ajavid | TiMiDo, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 04:25.48 | TiMiDo | thank you ajavid |
| 04:25.49 | enouf | TiMiDo: /proc/cpuinfo |
| 04:25.59 | hacker_kid | im using the stock ssh config file, when i ssh in from a remote machine password authentication fails, but local to local works |
| 04:27.19 | Xenguy | hacker_kid: firewall? |
| 04:27.49 | hacker_kid | Xenguy, nope, the connection is successful just authentication fails and no firewall is enabled anyway |
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| 04:30.30 | Xenguy | hacker_kid: what about /etc/hosts.allow and deny ? |
| 04:30.43 | Xenguy | hacker_kid: are there any references to ssh in those files? |
| 04:31.19 | hacker_kid | Xenguy, nope |
| 04:31.31 | Xenguy | hrm |
| 04:31.37 | enouf | bind |
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| 04:31.49 | Xenguy | hacker_kid: what's the actual error message? |
| 04:32.11 | hacker_kid | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 04:32.15 | unjustice | enouf: after /dev/snd, what do i put in asterisk? |
| 04:32.26 | enouf | see if denyhosts or fail2ban is running |
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| 04:32.38 | maximi89 | hey guys! |
| 04:32.42 | maximi89 | i found the bug |
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| 04:32.45 | enouf | unjustice: nothing, it's literal |
| 04:32.49 | hacker_kid | Xenguy, Permission denied, please try again. |
| 04:33.13 | maximi89 | the bug come from installing the dmsetup package |
| 04:33.21 | enouf | check /etc/sshd/* |
| 04:33.42 | maximi89 | dmsetup corrupt the rules of udev, so the /dev of hard disk are not created. |
| 04:33.57 | maximi89 | i'm running on my system normally |
| 04:34.02 | unjustice | enouf: okay |
| 04:34.17 | enouf | maximi89: the old /dev/null /dev/zero /dev/random /dev/urandom bug? |
| 04:34.32 | enouf | missing, i should say |
| 04:34.57 | maximi89 | enouf: i dont put attention, but are the same type of error:http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 |
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| 04:35.23 | unjustice | enouf: you want output, the last 3 commands did not work |
| 04:35.27 | unjustice | ? |
| 04:36.48 | maximi89 | enouf: i report the bug, you know about this error? |
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| 04:37.00 | [ka]killer | humm... what is the command to shut down from command line |
| 04:37.37 | [ka]killer | o halt |
| 04:38.11 | enouf | maximi89: this one? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 |
| 04:38.14 | maximi89 | poweroff |
| 04:38.19 | enouf | unjustice: no idea |
| 04:38.20 | maximi89 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 |
| 04:38.23 | [ka]killer | i still love the sound of 15k scsi drives spinning down |
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| 04:38.44 | maximi89 | the bug i report i think are similiar |
| 04:38.57 | enouf | same number maximi89 ;-) |
| 04:39.18 | enouf | and it's older - you must've been using etch and/or old dmsetup pkgs |
| 04:39.19 | maximi89 | enouf: i'm waiting for the bug number XD |
| 04:39.30 | maximi89 | that bug i tell you http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 |
| 04:39.31 | enouf | oh |
| 04:39.37 | maximi89 | help me for found the mine |
| 04:39.58 | maximi89 | i was thinking to reinstall... but i found and now all works nicely |
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| 04:40.41 | maximi89 | i go to take a shower |
| 04:41.45 | flaccid | surely someone alive can help me with rsyslog so it doesn't put mail.* in the /var/log/syslog ? |
| 04:41.54 | Decepticon | which file should i copy from /usr/share/zoneinfo/ if i want my time to be 12:40am ... i tried to copy /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST to /etc/localtime but i am getting 11:40am, off by 1 hour. help please |
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| 04:43.15 | enouf | flaccid: maybe a setting in /etc/default/rsyslog or /etc/{r}syslog.conf ? |
| 04:43.33 | flaccid | enouf yeah been trying |
| 04:43.41 | flaccid | but the rsyslog doco is confusing and doesn't even mention what - means |
| 04:43.52 | enouf | !set the time |
| 04:43.52 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
| 04:45.03 | flaccid | and syslog is running +2hours from system wtf.. |
| 04:46.14 | maximi89 | enouf: acknowledgement http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=528605 |
| 04:46.51 | flaccid | actually its 12 hours behind |
| 04:47.06 | maximi89 | bye! |
| 04:47.36 | Tramp | flaccid: in the line which refers to syslog, add "mail" where it (should) read "auth,authpriv.none" |
| 04:48.56 | flaccid | Tramp refering to *.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog in /etc/rsyslog.conf ? |
| 04:49.07 | Tramp | flaccid: exactly |
| 04:49.11 | betz | Hi! How can i check a process by which user it is running? |
| 04:49.37 | flaccid | Tramp ok so what does that mean? and what are the - in the config file do? |
| 04:50.01 | flaccid | so Tramp, change to *.*;auth,authpriv.none,mail -/var/log/syslog ? |
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| 04:50.20 | Tramp | flaccid: so it should be "*.*;mail,auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog" - iirc it's for not syncing the file immediately but buffered writes (or vice versa, can't remember) |
| 04:50.44 | Tramp | flaccid: no, not what you suggested but what I wrote |
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| 04:52.06 | flaccid | Tramp ok so this will make mail.* only go in /var/log/mail.* and not /var/log/syslog ? |
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| 04:52.47 | Tramp | flaccid: well, if there is an entry for mail.* somewhere else - dunno, I have modified my logging quite a bit, so I don't know how the default looks |
| 04:53.03 | flaccid | i just don't get the directives |
| 04:53.13 | flaccid | that to me reads like it puts mail in /var/log/syslog .. |
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| 04:53.33 | flaccid | but your solution does seem to work |
| 04:54.01 | Tramp | flaccid: well, what do you have for the "mail" facility now? |
| 04:54.23 | flaccid | lenny defaults |
| 04:54.40 | Tramp | yeah. no idea what that may be, as I mentioned |
| 04:54.49 | flaccid | mail.* /var/log/mail.log |
| 04:55.34 | enouf | well, for username, i get mail in /var/mail/username |
| 04:55.38 | Tramp | fine. then everything logged from "mail" facility (i.e. with any priority) goes to that file |
| 04:56.04 | flaccid | Tramp yep, but im still trying to understand how the directive you gave works |
| 04:56.09 | Tramp | flaccid: note though, that "mail" facility can be anything that thinks it has something to do with mail |
| 04:56.10 | flaccid | i read that like put mail in /var/log/syslog |
| 04:56.30 | Tramp | Unix logging by facility/priority was always broken by design, so ymmv. |
| 04:57.20 | enouf | env | grep MAIL ? |
| 04:57.26 | Tramp | flaccid: no. "mail.none" is a special "exception" from the "*.*", meaning "nothing from mail" |
| 04:57.49 | Tramp | flaccid: i.e. "foo,bar.none" expands to "foo.none, bar.none" |
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| 04:58.36 | Tramp | flaccid: and "*.*;foo,bar.none" thus means "everything but not anything from foo or bar" |
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| 04:59.09 | Tramp | I agree, it's weird and convoluted, but thus it fits the whole syslog design |
| 04:59.12 | flaccid | ah thanks so much Tramp. you have helped more than anything i've searched and read. so it says all messages with *.* then no mail, auth or authpriv messages right? |
| 04:59.23 | Tramp | flaccid: exactly |
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| 04:59.27 | flaccid | sick as! |
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| 04:59.37 | flaccid | now only problem left is my syslog time is 12 hours behind system time |
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| 05:00.09 | Tramp | flaccid: and "auth" and "authpriv" is basically the same, but iirc "auth" was deprecated for some reason to make it all even more confusing |
| 05:00.13 | enyawix | any good way to deal with web sites setup for IE6+ |
| 05:00.53 | flaccid | enyawix set up ? |
| 05:00.57 | enyawix | I am starting to hate ASP more every day |
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| 05:01.49 | enyawix | flaccid sites built with windows tools to only work with windows |
| 05:01.59 | flaccid | enyawix you can try mono |
| 05:02.09 | flaccid | well yeah thats just crap developers |
| 05:02.09 | enyawix | mono? |
| 05:02.12 | flaccid | not much you can do about that |
| 05:02.21 | enyawix | brb i will google for that |
| 05:02.23 | flaccid | mono for serving asp/.net |
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| 05:09.28 | Supaplex | you want to install a kissing disease to flirt with the enemy? |
| 05:11.49 | creature_ | does ntfs-3g have somekind of problem with multibyte characters? |
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| 05:17.37 | creature_ | holy shit the utf-8 isn't on by defauöt |
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| 05:18.06 | creature_ | so thats where all the japanese porn disapered when i thought i made a full backup of my NTFS drive |
| 05:18.07 | frankS2 | creature_: øæå |
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| 05:20.30 | blouf | hi |
| 05:20.35 | blouf | anyone here please ? |
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| 05:21.36 | pl4yer0ne | blouf, whats up? |
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| 05:22.48 | blouf | so ? |
| 05:23.07 | pl4yer0ne | blouf, whats up? |
| 05:23.13 | blouf | hi pl4yer0ne |
| 05:23.57 | blouf | pl4yer0ne: comin' from ubuntu, want to run debian instead, but NO WAY. there's always a package which can't be get (during install), problem of disc integrity etc ... |
| 05:24.16 | blouf | tried the last testing, and a stable netinstall image file : same result. |
| 05:25.07 | blouf | burnt with brasero under linux, m trying to burn it now with alcohol (to see) all at x1 ; any idea ? |
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| 05:26.54 | flaccid | sorry whats the actual problem |
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| 05:27.19 | blouf | seem to be a problem of md5, but i checked the md5sum |
| 05:27.20 | enouf | blouf: you can loop mount an iso file |
| 05:27.38 | blouf | enouf: what u mean ? |
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| 05:28.01 | enouf | blouf: you ran 'check integrity' option? hit f1-f10 |
| 05:28.05 | enouf | !ig |
| 05:28.05 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r8) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual . See also <installer firmware>. |
| 05:28.10 | blouf | enouf: smthing like a live cd + loop mount then install ? |
| 05:28.16 | blouf | enouf: i did it |
| 05:28.29 | pl4yer0ne | (sorry had to do real work for a minute back now) |
| 05:28.30 | enouf | yes - well, i meant livecd + loop mount |
| 05:28.58 | pl4yer0ne | blouf, could it be a problem with the HDD your installing to? |
| 05:29.00 | enouf | blouf: there are other inatallation methods - what's actually going wrong? |
| 05:29.11 | acu01 | blouf: what CPU do you have and which Lenny do you try to install - i386 AMD64 ? |
| 05:29.16 | blouf | pl4yer0ne: nah, i'm already running a linux on |
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| 05:29.26 | blouf | acu01: i386 |
| 05:29.26 | enouf | !debian.exe |
| 05:29.26 | dpkg | debian.exe is a debian-installer loader for win32. It installs Debian as default; it installs grub for NT on C drive, then downloads the netboot kernel/initrd.gz from debian.org, and creates entries in boot.ini to load grub/menu.lst. Available at http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/. Also ask me about <ig> <setup.exe> or see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader |
| 05:29.32 | enouf | heh |
| 05:30.11 | blouf | enouf: yeah, using a loop mount can be a nice idea |
| 05:30.41 | blouf | enouf: like an ubuntu livecd + usb drive with the debian iso on |
| 05:30.45 | enouf | blouf: i'm not sure what you're trying to see --> "...(to see) all at x1 ...." |
| 05:30.57 | enouf | what error? |
| 05:31.01 | blouf | enouf: burning speed ... |
| 05:31.05 | enouf | what error? |
| 05:31.08 | blouf | enouf: checksum error |
| 05:31.21 | acu01 | blouf: what CPU do you have ? - at which stage do you get stuck? |
| 05:31.43 | blouf | acu01: after mounting, when getting the packages and install base |
| 05:31.48 | enouf | md5sum error on the ISO? or only the resultant burn? if the burn only, i told you how already to resolve/check that |
| 05:32.05 | enouf | eww |
| 05:32.10 | blouf | on the resultant burn |
| 05:32.33 | enouf | your RAM is bad - or ...the cd media is no good in some places |
| 05:32.49 | enouf | blouf: mounting what? |
| 05:32.52 | enouf | what error? |
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| 05:33.32 | blouf | enouf : i can't see the errors log in any mode (expert, console, graphical) |
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| 05:34.26 | blouf | but i will copy the iso on an usb drive, mount it, and use it to install ; it can work |
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| 05:34.45 | blouf | oh oh oh seems to be ok that time |
| 05:34.52 | blouf | brasero is not a good burner :) |
| 05:35.34 | flaccid | yeah k3b rules haha |
| 05:35.39 | flaccid | or just command line |
| 05:36.17 | acu01 | blouf: not that it matters - if you have an AMD64 or Intel2 core 2 duo use the AMD64 lenny - but the problem you face maybe due to having two different hard disk types - IDE and SATA - strangely enough at times I get stuck - but if I format the hard disk and make a 50 GB partition it works (I had few 300 or 600 GB hard disks which would not install) |
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| 05:38.14 | blouf | nah |
| 05:38.15 | acu01 | I mean, try one hard disk with at least a partition of 100 GB or less - it may work - I know this is quack medicine _ or how you call it - but I faced weird situations when I could just not install - usually I do through the network installations |
| 05:38.23 | blouf | now i have problem configuring the network |
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| 05:39.40 | blouf | that's ok, but when configuring the clock it said that the network has not been configured |
| 05:39.40 | blouf | lol what a mess |
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| 05:41.27 | blouf | i guess the clock can wait right ? |
| 05:42.04 | flaccid | what are you actually doing |
| 05:42.15 | flaccid | clock can always wait heh |
| 05:42.27 | blouf | flaccid: formatting old ext3 partition |
| 05:42.45 | flaccid | not sure what that has to do with clock or network |
| 05:42.51 | blouf | since i'm installing a testing, is ext4 supported yet ? |
| 05:43.05 | flaccid | screw ext* :p |
| 05:43.06 | blouf | flaccid: well, clock need network to work, it said so:p |
| 05:43.17 | flaccid | negative |
| 05:43.19 | flaccid | what is 'it' |
| 05:43.34 | blouf | flaccid: the installer |
| 05:43.44 | flaccid | what installer |
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| 05:44.02 | blouf | debian installer :) |
| 05:44.19 | blouf | i guess at least ... since no vista there |
| 05:44.19 | flaccid | weird |
| 05:44.27 | flaccid | huh |
| 05:44.29 | blouf | yea |
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| 05:44.55 | blouf | so no ext4 with debian ? |
| 05:45.06 | flaccid | that sounds like logic in the installer. ie. you missed network config somehow. it wants it incase you are on the net and can do ntp.. |
| 05:45.28 | blouf | yeah probably |
| 05:45.37 | flaccid | maybe google. i havnt seen ext4 myself. debian also does not do cutting edge cycle, so i wouldn't expect it for a while |
| 05:45.45 | enouf | acu01: your issues might have been somehow related to http://www.tummy.com/journals/entries/jafo_20081008_181615 |
| 05:46.25 | blouf | what's the default graphical environement coming with deb ? |
| 05:46.34 | blouf | it would be nice if none. |
| 05:46.43 | flaccid | blouf no such thing |
| 05:46.49 | blouf | nice ! |
| 05:46.55 | flaccid | oh the installer |
| 05:46.57 | flaccid | sorry |
| 05:47.17 | flaccid | someone else should answer that coz i aint installed debian for ages |
| 05:47.22 | flaccid | not sure sorry |
| 05:47.25 | blouf | no no no, after installation of the base, there's no graphical environement right ? |
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| 05:48.03 | flaccid | um depends on install type iirc. but someone here should be able to answer. i use debian netinst myself so it has nothing. |
| 05:48.20 | blouf | ic |
| 05:49.36 | pl4yer0ne | netinst ftw |
| 05:49.37 | blouf | flaccid: ur running the testing release ? |
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| 05:49.52 | flaccid | nah lenny |
| 05:50.04 | flaccid | i run production |
| 05:50.24 | blouf | flaccid: k, not bored by difficulties to update ? |
| 05:50.34 | cromag | i've just made http://debian.pastebin.com/d36e74e43 - im trying to figure out why it keeps going to 0.00 every other time. Can i get a pointer in the right direction ? |
| 05:50.41 | cromag | (ifstat issue) |
| 05:51.09 | flaccid | blouf i have no reason to upgrade lenny |
| 05:51.15 | blouf | flaccid: some ubunteros told me that with debian no way to update yet installed package ... dont know if true or not :/ |
| 05:51.34 | flaccid | blouf i used to be an ubunto op. sounds like you talked to morons. |
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| 05:51.56 | blouf | lmao |
| 05:52.17 | flaccid | still i don't know what a yet installed package is |
| 05:52.18 | enouf | flaccid: ++ |
| 05:52.24 | pl4yer0ne | and ubuntus package handling is exactly the same |
| 05:52.27 | flaccid | lol |
| 05:52.57 | blouf | flaccid: ie. u install brasero 1.0, brasero 2.0 is released, autoupdate or no autoupdate ? |
| 05:53.02 | pl4yer0ne | so if ubuntu can update a yet installed pkg then so can debian =) |
| 05:53.08 | cromag | someone told me it could be a clock issue, http://debian.pastebin.com/d36e74e43 - how do i find out if that is correct ? |
| 05:53.22 | flaccid | blouf i don't use gnome/ubuntu. im a kubuntu user. both DEs have apt notifiers. |
| 05:54.09 | flaccid | blouf you are referring to release cycle. ubuntu is cutting edge. where is debian focusses on being stable. so new major releases can take time to 'come through' yes. |
| 05:54.15 | blouf | flaccid: well i guess so, but gnome is more sexy than kde :) go 4 trollin' :) |
| 05:54.24 | flaccid | still nothing from stopping you installing manually. |
| 05:54.39 | flaccid | if i wanted sex, i'd do it with my g/f. |
| 05:54.40 | flaccid | :) |
| 05:54.49 | blouf | sure lol |
| 05:55.29 | flaccid | kde4 feels and looks better than gnome 2.x anyway |
| 05:55.29 | blouf | i don't use kde either |
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| 05:56.16 | flaccid | its user's choice. but if you want bleeding edge new/untested quickly implemented crap, choose ubuntu.. |
| 05:56.39 | blouf | nah that's ok |
| 05:56.51 | flaccid | personally i don't even use them for desktop. mac os x preferred otherwise im a pc-bsd user which is kde |
| 05:57.10 | sauvin | sticks with debian lenny |
| 05:57.22 | dimir | Good morning! |
| 05:57.27 | blouf | jaunty sign the end of love story between ubuntu & me |
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| 05:58.37 | blouf | dimir: hi |
| 05:58.44 | flaccid | ubuntu is about chasing the tail. you never get to the tail. |
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| 05:59.25 | blouf | flaccid: yea |
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| 06:01.29 | creature_ | why doesn't my USB keybord work on the Grub menu? |
| 06:01.43 | valdyn | creature_: are 2 keyboards plugged in? |
| 06:01.52 | creature_ | valdyn: no only one |
| 06:01.53 | Wyzard | creature_: You may need to enable USB legacy support in your BIOS |
| 06:02.02 | valdyn | creature_: then you only need to enabled it in the bios |
| 06:02.08 | creature_ | Wyzard: oh ok i know for a fact that its disabled |
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| 06:02.50 | hacker_kid | i cant seem to get ssh working on my debian vm, http://codepad.org/awJ9r79y < thats the output i get with -v, why does it hang after the identification files? |
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| 06:04.25 | stew | hacker_kid: debugging is easier from the server side: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 06:04.26 | mick_laptop | hacker_kid: last time that i had issues like that i didn't specify the exact ip address to bind to in sshd.conf |
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| 06:04.39 | hugh | hi |
| 06:04.48 | mick_laptop | hacker_kid: i was using linux vservers |
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| 06:05.17 | hacker_kid | mick_laptop, that would cause it to hang at the id files, weird. i would think if it was a binding problem the connection wouldnt be established |
| 06:05.29 | hugh | I am new to debian. I saw on a friend's computer that I can have the OpenGL stuff - what do I search for in aptitude? |
| 06:05.44 | hugh | and how do I enable it please? |
| 06:05.47 | mick_laptop | hacker_kid: another thing besides using debugging is to /join the channel of that vm software (ex: #xen etc) |
| 06:05.58 | valdyn | hugh: using which gfx card? |
| 06:06.12 | hugh | valdyn, dunno. How do I check? |
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| 06:06.24 | valdyn | hugh: "lspci" for example |
| 06:06.28 | hugh | it's a modern one with dual monitors |
| 06:06.32 | hacker_kid | mick_laptop, i highly doubt its a problem with virtualbox, the connection goes through fine so its most likely something in the config on one side or the other |
| 06:06.34 | mick_laptop | hacker_kid: i know i thought the same thing |
| 06:06.34 | hugh | ok, one mo pls |
| 06:06.46 | mick_laptop | try #vbox |
| 06:07.04 | mick_laptop | also tail the sshd log file |
| 06:07.20 | hacker_kid | mick_laptop, alright |
| 06:07.21 | mick_laptop | i need to get back to my code - see you guys later |
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| 06:07.28 | hugh | valdyn, GEForce FX5200 |
| 06:07.36 | mick_laptop | hacker_kid: good luck |
| 06:07.38 | valdyn | !nvidia |
| 06:07.38 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 06:07.39 | blouf | yeah m rebooting too |
| 06:07.40 | hacker_kid | mick_laptop, ty |
| 06:07.43 | valdyn | hugh: ^^ |
| 06:07.51 | blouf | so long |
| 06:08.00 | hugh | valdyn, the card works |
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| 06:08.11 | valdyn | hugh: so? |
| 06:08.26 | hugh | valdyn, dunno how to make the eye candy work |
| 06:08.46 | hacker_kid | eye candy, waste of ram :P |
| 06:08.48 | valdyn | hugh: so you really mean you want that 3D desktop thing |
| 06:08.50 | hugh | :) |
| 06:08.57 | hugh | valdyn, yesss! |
| 06:09.09 | valdyn | hugh: whats the output for "glxinfo | grep -i direct" |
| 06:09.32 | hugh | no such command |
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| 06:09.56 | valdyn | hugh: "aptitude install mesa-utils", then try again |
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| 06:10.56 | hugh | valdyn, direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) |
| 06:10.57 | hugh | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
| 06:11.08 | flaccid | um yeah i recommended using the closed nv drivers |
| 06:11.11 | valdyn | hugh: so read what dpkg said again, and do that |
| 06:11.14 | flaccid | mesa is bad |
| 06:11.23 | valdyn | hugh: mesa isnt bad |
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| 06:11.31 | hugh | dpkg said something? |
| 06:11.32 | flaccid | for NV it is |
| 06:11.32 | dpkg | hugh: bugger all, i dunno |
| 06:11.33 | valdyn | hugh: you still need the "nvidia" drivers, read above |
| 06:11.37 | valdyn | !nvidia |
| 06:11.38 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 06:11.38 | hugh | ah ok |
| 06:11.41 | hugh | :) |
| 06:11.42 | valdyn | hugh: ^^ that |
| 06:11.46 | flaccid | yerp |
| 06:11.47 | hugh | gotcha, lol |
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| 06:12.07 | valdyn | hugh: later you need to install compiz, i cant help you with that, no time. |
| 06:12.21 | hugh | valdyn, thanks, just what I needed |
| 06:12.23 | flaccid | when it comes to nvidia and ati, the prop. drivers will always be better. |
| 06:12.29 | hugh | been a great help |
| 06:12.38 | hugh | thx flaccid |
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| 06:12.54 | hugh | bye |
| 06:13.35 | yaroslavvb | what is the right way to call the "virtual screens" I have on my Ubuntu? |
| 06:13.39 | yaroslavvb | I have 2 of them by default |
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| 06:14.02 | Gigantic | the Win player doesn't play Falc does it? |
| 06:14.08 | Gigantic | by default |
| 06:14.20 | simonrvn | yaroslavvb: you ask #ubuntu |
| 06:14.54 | yaroslavvb | I can't join #ubuntu for some reason |
| 06:15.09 | Gigantic | u need to be registered I think |
| 06:15.09 | flaccid | yareckon goto #ubuntu-ops |
| 06:15.11 | yaroslavvb | other Debian distros don't have those screens? |
| 06:15.14 | Gigantic | ya |
| 06:15.17 | simonrvn | banned? |
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| 06:15.38 | Gigantic | I heard you get easily banned in #Ubuntu |
| 06:15.38 | simonrvn | it's not distro-specific... |
| 06:15.48 | simonrvn | you can ask #xorg too |
| 06:15.58 | flaccid | #ubuntu is a wasteland but yeah |
| 06:16.01 | simonrvn | Gigantic: for talking :P |
| 06:16.12 | Gigantic | meh |
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| 06:18.04 | Gigantic | so... anyone here that have a secret and guilty love for Windows and has the latest winplayer... qho could light me up rather it play flac or not? |
| 06:18.29 | Gigantic | I don't want to convert it to mp3 =\ |
| 06:18.35 | flaccid | sure |
| 06:18.37 | flaccid | im on windows atm |
| 06:18.44 | Gigantic | by default? |
| 06:18.47 | flaccid | whats the URI, i'll test |
| 06:18.57 | Gigantic | I'm emailing |
| 06:18.59 | flaccid | windows default does not include any open codecs. |
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| 06:19.07 | Gigantic | that's bs |
| 06:19.14 | flaccid | how so |
| 06:19.16 | Gigantic | I'll have to make an mp3 then =( |
| 06:19.25 | Gigantic | lossy |
| 06:19.25 | flaccid | mp3 is not open. |
| 06:19.31 | Gigantic | I know |
| 06:19.37 | flaccid | then its not bs. |
| 06:19.48 | Gigantic | I am sending to somebody with default windows installation |
| 06:20.04 | flaccid | well those people cannot play flac. |
| 06:20.13 | Gigantic | BS that it doesn't include any opencodecs |
| 06:20.24 | flaccid | prove me wrong |
| 06:20.25 | Gigantic | flaccid: uhm... |
| 06:20.33 | flaccid | pcm and wav do not require codecs. |
| 06:20.34 | Gigantic | yeah... the reason I am here is to ask >.> |
| 06:20.44 | flaccid | and you do not accept my response? |
| 06:20.47 | Gigantic | ok, well |
| 06:21.00 | Gigantic | you are divaguing and argumentative |
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| 06:21.05 | Gigantic | w/e |
| 06:21.08 | Gigantic | Im out ty |
| 06:21.10 | flaccid | well im sorrya bout that |
| 06:21.13 | Gigantic | for the info |
| 06:21.18 | flaccid | i guess the truth hurts sometimes |
| 06:21.23 | flaccid | or at least expecting something that is not. |
| 06:21.27 | flaccid | good luck |
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| 06:23.28 | flaccid | i guess that dude had no idea that gnu gpl requires the vendor to distro the code |
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| 06:23.47 | flaccid | so if wmp supported open gpl formats, we would have wmp source code hahah |
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| 06:49.39 | ultraj6 | what should i use to virtualize windows on debian to get the maximum performance? |
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| 06:52.26 | flaccid | ultraj6 perhaps virtualbox |
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| 06:54.23 | amitz | ultraj6: most importantly, to have virtualization support in your processor and have it activated. |
| 06:54.48 | ultraj6 | i don't believe i do have virtualization support on my processors |
| 06:54.58 | ultraj6 | they are xeon mp 2.5ghz |
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| 06:56.55 | xingu | nb, vmware's research suggests that vte is more of a curse than a blessing, their own kernel beats it in terms of latency. |
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| 07:06.09 | enouf | that reminds me ... another gpl violator that linus doesn't have the balls to enforce |
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| 07:10.54 | xingu | enouf: if you mean vmware - they're working with the paravirt guys... and their real IP is locked up in the ESX kernel, nothing to do with linux. |
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| 07:11.55 | enouf | xingu: yes, i know, still ... |
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| 07:17.29 | heroxbd | Hey guys. I want to select out the fastest Debian mirror for me through ipv6. How can I do that? (netstat-apt do not understand ipv6) |
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| 07:19.52 | linduxed | lets say ive got an ordinary fileserver running that i can ssh into without problems and that server is also hooked to a small LAN. |
| 07:19.52 | linduxed | the questions are: 1) will i be able to emulate the normal "connecting to the network with an ethernet cable/wifi and seeing the server" with a VPN? 2. is that kind of VPN very hard to setup? |
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| 07:20.49 | xingu | linduxed: 1/ yes 2/ no |
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| 07:21.01 | xingu | linduxed: suggest you use openvpn as path of least resistance |
| 07:21.03 | JJOliver | Hi, I need a solution to a very silly problem I'm having. I've set up a Lenny computer lab running LXDE and some of the students have managed to get rid of the 'start' button equivilant |
| 07:21.10 | JJOliver | any suggestions on how i get it back? |
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| 07:22.27 | linduxed | xingu: ok, sounds good, but ive heard some pages mentioning stuff like its so hard that you should ask the ISP if it offers something.... i guess they mean for some huge enterprise stuff? |
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| 07:22.56 | xingu | linduxed: personally I find getting out of bed in the morning harder |
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| 07:23.36 | xingu | linduxed: there will be learning involved, but openvpn has a vibrant userbase and ships with documentation... |
| 07:23.44 | linduxed | xingu: hmmm, sounds fine then |
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| 07:25.17 | linduxed | will take a look at openvpn then |
| 07:26.09 | g0rd0n | hmmm i have the problem that i have one core constantly running at almost 100% and i can't find out what is causing it. i'm looking at htop but there is no process consuming that much. the other core is doing fine though. any ideas? |
| 07:26.40 | linduxed | xingu: does openvpn create a vpn that is accessable by windows-comps provided they have the right software? |
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| 07:28.58 | enouf | heroxbd: do you mean netselect-apt? and .. seen apt- .. crap, can't recall the name offand |
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| 07:30.05 | enouf | JJOliver: is there a #lxde ? |
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| 07:30.41 | JJOliver | enouf: Huh? I'm in the lxde but what is the #? |
| 07:30.44 | liable | yes, on oftc |
| 07:30.49 | JJOliver | as you can tell i'm comletely new to Linux |
| 07:30.53 | JJOliver | :D |
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| 07:30.56 | heroxbd | enouf: apt-spy? |
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| 07:31.07 | liable | tis a very quiet channel |
| 07:31.19 | enouf | heroxbd: yes,, that's the one |
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| 07:32.23 | xingu | linduxed: there's a client for windows, yes; "windows" is itself a mishmash, not a single platform. |
| 07:32.44 | enouf | JJOliver: the leading '#' or many times '##' indicates a channelname .. try irc.debian,org/irc.oftc.net - learn how to use IRC to search for channels via names/wildcards |
| 07:32.45 | linduxed | xingu: tell me about it.... |
| 07:32.56 | JJOliver | enouf: thanks |
| 07:33.01 | linduxed | xingu: i unfortunately have to work with the mess |
| 07:33.47 | xingu | linduxed: "windows" typically has native support for one or more of l2tp, pptp, ipsec, and variations; interop is a nightmare and you'll be installing or configuring something on the clients regardless |
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| 07:35.06 | xingu | linduxed: it's no accident that in the commercial sphere you get a blob binary for each "windows" variant that sits straight on top of the IP stack; in this sense the openvpn client for windows takes the place of the commercial vpn client you'd be downloading and installing. |
| 07:35.16 | linduxed | xingu: yeah well, ill have to solve interop, but thats a different story i believe someone on google has already been through |
| 07:35.43 | xingu | linduxed: if you want less painful, then create the tunnel between the client's edge router instead (rather than from the actual workstation) |
| 07:36.04 | linduxed | xingu: thats a nice idea too |
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| 07:36.12 | linduxed | will think about it |
| 07:36.29 | xingu | linduxed: that's an optimistic guess (google); it's full of half baked cargo cult solutions that mostly work by accident. |
| 07:36.43 | xingu | linduxed: been there, done that, got the hat t-shirt and book. |
| 07:36.57 | linduxed | xingu: lol, true at times |
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| 07:37.23 | TiMiDo | anyone in here know why i cannot seem to access localhost on the apache |
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| 07:37.59 | xingu | linduxed: have you thought about using transport layer security rather than just permitting raw ip? webdav works fine over tls/ssl-ized http. |
| 07:38.03 | bbb8 | TiMiDo: huh? |
| 07:38.06 | nkuttler | TiMiDo: start with /var/log/apache2/*log |
| 07:38.31 | linduxed | xingu: so far i havent heard of that |
| 07:39.32 | TiMiDo | nkuttler, http://pastebin.ca/1422431 |
| 07:39.33 | xingu | linduxed: depends on use-case of course, but for lightweight road-warrior usage webdav aka msft web folders or "my locations" folders can be sufficient. |
| 07:39.56 | qiyong_ | How can I check package integrity? |
| 07:40.02 | faffi | wootoff!!! |
| 07:40.10 | faffi | qiyong_: like an md5sum of the .deb? |
| 07:40.11 | nkuttler | TiMiDo: you should read it, not me.. |
| 07:40.32 | nkuttler | TiMiDo: tail -f, request, see what happens |
| 07:40.35 | TiMiDo | http://pastebin.ca/1422434 |
| 07:40.35 | bbb8 | heh |
| 07:40.39 | qiyong_ | faffi: no, just simply check if /var/log/foo missed or not |
| 07:40.48 | qiyong_ | faffi: file missing check |
| 07:40.57 | heroxbd | enouf: apt-spy does not seem to resolve ipv6 addr |
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| 07:42.34 | gamla_kossan | hi guys, how do I set my hostname again? I've changed the /etc/hostname and restarted networking, but still have my old one. |
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| 07:44.14 | sep | gamla_kossan, read /etc/init.d/hostname.sh also make sure you check /etc/hosts and /etc/mailname |
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| 07:45.36 | qiyong_ | faffi: ? |
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| 07:46.51 | gamla_kossan | sep: thanks, now it's only the prompt that shows the wrong hostname ;) |
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| 07:48.06 | linduxed | xingu: basically, theres a server, that a userbase i have connects to, it has a samba domain and useraccounts on it. people (most often windows xp users) log into that domain and almost exclusively use the server for storing and retreiving files. right now if they aint on site they have to ssh or use winscp, this would be simplified by a vpn |
| 07:48.40 | anddam | hello, is there any advantage in picking up one of Atheros AR2413, AR5414 or AR5213A chipset in order to use it with lenny? |
| 07:48.59 | faffi | qiyong_: check if the file exists or not? like in a bash script? |
| 07:49.35 | qiyong_ | faffi: just a command to check if a pkg install properly or not |
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| 07:50.19 | anddam | qiyong_: what do you mean by saying "check if a pkg install"? |
| 07:50.34 | bbb8 | i think he means if a pkg is installed |
| 07:50.40 | anddam | I see |
| 07:50.43 | qiyong_ | andash: it it installed correctly |
| 07:50.49 | anddam | qiyong_: dpkg then |
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| 07:51.04 | qiyong_ | anddam: what option? |
| 07:51.05 | anddam | as dpkg-query interface probably |
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| 07:51.32 | bbb8 | --status? |
| 07:51.48 | anddam | qiyong_: you can choose output when using dpkg-query related info, you'll most probably want to check status, 'i' is installed |
| 07:52.01 | anddam | if it didn't install properly then it should list as installed |
| 07:52.16 | anddam | any hint about my Atheros question? |
| 07:52.42 | qiyong_ | anddam: that doesn't work well when a file/dir missing |
| 07:52.53 | qiyong_ | it reports as Status: install ok installed |
| 07:53.07 | qiyong_ | but one dir missing actually andash |
| 07:53.42 | stew | qiyong_: which? |
| 07:53.53 | qiyong_ | stew: /var/log/samba |
| 07:54.19 | anddam | qiyong_: why do you say it's "missing"? |
| 07:54.58 | anddam | stew: didn't I see you on #wireless or #rt2x00 from time to time? |
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| 07:55.30 | stew | anddam: i doubt it |
| 07:55.49 | stew | qiyong_: try aptitude reinstall samba-common |
| 07:55.51 | anddam | stew: some other well-known name from here then |
| 07:56.11 | qiyong_ | stew: that doesn't help to find missing file pkgs |
| 07:56.23 | stew | qiyong_: what do you mean by "missing file pkgs"? |
| 07:56.36 | qiyong_ | anddam: the dir doesn't exist |
| 07:58.13 | anddam | qiyong_: you have to consider that understanding your sentences is as hard to us as it is to you writing them |
| 07:58.32 | stew | qiyong_: i'd think that running "dpkg -S /var/log/samba" would tell you that the samba-common package is the package which installed this directory. "aptitude reinstall samba-common" should recreate the missing directory for you |
| 07:58.55 | qiyong_ | stew: sure, i know |
| 07:58.59 | anddam | qiyong_: consider that the dir could have been created when samba-common was installed and for whatever reason deleted, that would still list the package as installed |
| 07:59.07 | stew | qiyong_: what is the question then? |
| 07:59.24 | qiyong_ | anddam: i want to find the pkgs which have missing files, clear? |
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| 07:59.30 | stew | qiyong_: try debsums |
| 08:00.04 | qiyong_ | stew: tried, no use |
| 08:00.21 | stew | qiyong_: then nothing |
| 08:00.34 | anddam | qiyong_: what is the actual problem? |
| 08:00.40 | stew | qiyong_: debsums will identify missing files |
| 08:00.45 | qiyong_ | stew: debsums samba-common | grep log |
| 08:01.21 | qiyong_ | stew: so this is a debsums bug or feature, that it doesn't count files/dirs created by install scripts |
| 08:01.37 | qiyong_ | anddam: i want to find the pkgs which have missing files, clear? !!! |
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| 08:03.22 | stew | qiyong: /var/log/samba IS listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.list ; debsums only reports files not directories |
| 08:03.44 | qiyong | stew: oh |
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| 08:04.11 | qiyong | stew: so there's no way to find missing dirs, at least from debsums? |
| 08:04.16 | stew | qiyong: no |
| 08:04.22 | qiyong | stew: dir sums doesn't make sense |
| 08:04.26 | stew | right |
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| 08:04.49 | qiyong | stew: so we can't find missing dirs now with a easy command |
| 08:04.50 | stew | qiyong: if you are also looking for directories which might have been created by postinst scripts, i'd say it is impossible |
| 08:04.54 | stew | qiyong: right |
| 08:05.14 | qiyong | stew: so you think /var/log/samba was created by scripts? |
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| 08:05.25 | stew | qiyong: i'm sure it was not created by scripts |
| 08:05.55 | qiyong | stew: because it's recored by /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.list ? |
| 08:06.04 | stew | qiyong: grep var/log/samba /var/lib/dpkg/info/*samba* |
| 08:06.18 | qiyong | stew: so for these dirs, they are recorded, but how to find them if some missing? |
| 08:06.35 | stew | qiyong: write a script |
| 08:06.40 | stew | qiyong: note that not all of them are recorded |
| 08:06.52 | stew | qiyong: some are created by scripts |
| 08:07.06 | stew | qiyong: /var/log/samba happens to be recorded in the .list file |
| 08:07.21 | qiyong | stew: non script created files/dirs are recorded i think |
| 08:07.35 | stew | qiyong: yes, in the .list file |
| 08:07.48 | stew | qiyong: if you think debsums should report these, please send a patch to the bts |
| 08:08.04 | anddam | bts==? |
| 08:08.09 | stew | !bts |
| 08:08.09 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs <apt-listchanges>. |
| 08:08.17 | anddam | oh right :-p |
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| 08:08.39 | qiyong | anddam: download debsums source, then code? |
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| 08:11.18 | qiyong | andash: not sure if debsums authors like it |
| 08:11.25 | qiyong | the idea |
| 08:11.35 | stew | qiyong: did you ask them about it? |
| 08:11.44 | qiyong | stew: no |
| 08:11.48 | stew | qiyong: then i'm not suprised that you are unsure |
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| 08:13.12 | qiyong | stew: for debsums, dpkg etc pkgs, iit is probably the deb maintainer also the author. |
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| 08:13.16 | qiyong | maybe not |
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| 08:14.54 | qiyong | stew: maybe i can mail them and cc you? |
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| 08:15.33 | stew | qiyong: no, the maintainer of debsums is not the author |
| 08:15.41 | stew | but that doens't really matter |
| 08:15.49 | stew | qiyong: there is no need. just open a wishlist bug |
| 08:16.25 | qiyong | rpm systems can find missing files i remember |
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| 08:16.57 | stew | yes |
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| 08:20.12 | eshat | Hi all, what dictionary does kmail use ? I only have support for english,hebrew and turkish and want to add german... |
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| 08:21.34 | nkuttler | eshat: i'd guess apt-cache search kde german lists what you need |
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| 08:23.38 | eshat | nkuttler: thanks, thats it ;) |
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| 08:28.01 | caraconan | Hi. Some strange things are happening in my enterprise. The combination Windows + IE => Works. Same Windows + Firefox => Fails. Debian + iceweasel => fails Debian + aptitude => fails. Debian + wget => fails. It's possible that proxy from now filters for client type? |
| 08:28.15 | caraconan | Debian + ssh (through 443 port) => works |
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| 08:30.43 | olspookishmagus | hello, is there any specific guide on how to install ipw2100 driver/firmware on Debian? |
| 08:30.56 | enouf | !ipw2100 |
| 08:30.57 | dpkg | methinks ipw2100 is the driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 802.11b chipsets (http://ipw2100.sf.net/) included in kernels since 2.6.14. Firmware is required. Lenny: Add <non-free sources> and install the 'firmware-ipw2x00' package. Etch: Download firmware v1.3 from http://ipw2100.sf.net/firmware.php and extract to /lib/firmware. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 @ irc.freenode.net |
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| 08:32.04 | mischief6 | how can i figure out what program has a lock on the dpkg lockfile? |
| 08:32.46 | MikeH | Hello all, I'm looking to install apache, but unsure which "configuration" to choose (event, mpm, prefork, worker, suexec etc.)? I usually use lighttpd, so I'm clueless with apache. The machine is going to be dedicated to just one site, revolving around PHP/MySQL, but also a lot of static content. |
| 08:32.56 | caraconan | <mischief6> A workaround may be remove the .pid file (I'm talking of memory) |
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| 08:33.29 | caraconan | MikeH I always do a simple aptitude install apache2 |
| 08:33.36 | mischief6 | caraconan, i'm trying to run `aptitude install ...` and the dpkg lockfile is locked, but nothing that i am running is using it |
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| 08:33.48 | caraconan | Then: aptitude install php5 php5-mysql php5-cli |
| 08:33.49 | jonsmith1982 | where can i find a download for debian etch? doesn't seem to be available through the website. |
| 08:33.55 | mischief6 | MikeH, the apache site has information about the MPM modules |
| 08:33.55 | caraconan | Are you root? |
| 08:34.01 | mischief6 | caraconan, yes |
| 08:34.35 | caraconan | Quick solutions: reboot or ps ax | grep aptitude, and then kill -9 my_process |
| 08:35.38 | themill | caraconan: by "fails" do you mean "connection timed out"? |
| 08:35.46 | mischief6 | haha, aptitude was running on a different desktop |
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| 08:35.59 | caraconan | No, just working, and working .... |
| 08:36.10 | mischief6 | does anyone know how i can copy something from my xfce4 menu to a launcher? |
| 08:36.19 | caraconan | aptitude fails wiith: E: Se produjo un fallo al descargar http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fsplib/libfsplib0_0.9-1_i386.deb: Fallo la conexión |
| 08:36.46 | themill | caraconan: you probably just need to define your proxy for debian and win+firefox. |
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| 08:36.59 | caraconan | That file can be downloaded with Win + IE, and not with WIN + Firefox or Linux + Iceweasel |
| 08:37.18 | luckylucy | where does debian read its routes from on reboot or networking restart? i am loosing my default gw route everytime i reboot. i only show one line in netstat -rn |
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| 08:37.32 | caraconan | The two machines have same proxy (resolves same ip), same proxy user, same switch and same network port |
| 08:38.00 | EugenMayer | hello. How to add a new package reporsitory while only "unlocking" one single package from there ( and not all )? |
| 08:38.31 | EugenMayer | with unlocking i mean, only this package will be precedented to the default etch reporsitory |
| 08:38.32 | caraconan | <luckylucy> /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:38.45 | caraconan | Entry: gateway 15.64.16.1 (for example) |
| 08:39.59 | luckylucy | caraconan: that's what i thought, and i have it matching a working comp, but this one only shows one line with netstat. how can i reset what it is using? |
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| 08:40.38 | luckylucy | networking restart doesn't work, ifup eth0 doesn't fix it either. |
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| 08:41.03 | themill | caraconan: sounds like you're probably not setting the proxy properly, given that other network things work ok (e.g. ssh). There are some proxies that filter based on User Agent, but they're pretty rare. How are you setting the proxy in IE vs Firefox vs Iceweasel vs aptitude vs wget? (they each have different ways of configuring the proxy unfortunately) |
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| 08:44.09 | enouf | EugenMayer: not sure what you mean, but might be /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 08:44.34 | enouf | !http_proxy |
| 08:44.34 | dpkg | i heard http_proxy is export 'http_proxy=http://PROXY:port/' -- It can be used with apt-get or lynx or wget - the trailing slash is important!, or export 'http_proxy=http://username:password@proxy:port/' if you need to authenticate |
| 08:44.49 | enouf | tried ftp? how about https? |
| 08:46.24 | jonsmith1982 | Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 has been superseded by.... does this mean i cannot download debian etch anymore? |
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| 08:46.37 | enouf | no |
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| 08:47.29 | jonsmith1982 | cannot find a download for it any where. enouf could you help us out? |
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| 08:48.44 | caraconan | I'm back |
| 08:49.34 | caraconan | I'm 99% sure that today the proxy admins have made some changes, because Win + IE => open url A | Win + Firefox => does'nt open url A |
| 08:50.20 | caraconan | And then we can start talk about Debian, but the same Windows machine are showing different behaviour based on the web browser |
| 08:50.44 | caraconan | And with the Debian machine all works fine until yesterday/today. No configuration changes |
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| 08:51.34 | mavhc | do you have auto proxy detection on? |
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| 08:52.03 | caraconan | No. Now seems works back.... Don't expend more time on this. Thanks a lot to all, guys |
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| 08:52.09 | peteryang | hello, what is the maximum sockets can be opened on linux? In other words, for a TCP socket server, what is the maximum concurrent connections if not consider memory and cpu |
| 08:53.00 | enouf | jonsmith1982: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 08:53.48 | jonsmith1982 | enouf: heh, i just found that as you pasted it. thanks alot :) |
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| 09:02.28 | bolt-work | oo? |
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| 09:11.16 | ratbert | su: Authentication failure i know my pass but it seems that doesnt work anymore |
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| 09:12.48 | ratbert | pls help |
| 09:13.26 | JJOliver | Anyone know of any very 'light' games for lenny, like card games, the standard sort of stuff? |
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| 09:19.08 | ratbert | su: Authentication failure pls help me |
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| 09:24.33 | rvsjoen | use the correct password |
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| 09:25.14 | ratbert | i do |
| 09:25.25 | DavidProck1981 | is there a way to get codeblocks for debian |
| 09:25.42 | ratbert | rvsjoen, i use the same pass since i got linux |
| 09:25.44 | DavidProck1981 | its an IDE |
| 09:25.45 | hacker_kid | i installed a second network card but its not showing up on ifconfig. can someone point me to a document page on how to configure the new card? |
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| 09:25.57 | ratbert | its possible that some one hacked me and changed it ?? |
| 09:26.20 | JJOliver | ratbert: sorry it was me . . . try the password onlyjoking |
| 09:26.20 | DavidProck1981 | ratbert, is it |
| 09:26.32 | rvsjoen | hacker_kid: does ifconfig -a show it ? |
| 09:26.33 | JJOliver | ;-) |
| 09:26.37 | salman | is there a major difference between squeeze and lenny at this stage? |
| 09:26.47 | DavidProck1981 | ratbert what pass u neeed |
| 09:26.51 | ratbert | su |
| 09:26.54 | DavidProck1981 | what u working with |
| 09:26.58 | ratbert | doesnt work any more |
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| 09:27.02 | rvsjoen | su asks for the root password |
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| 09:27.12 | hacker_kid | rvsjoen, yes |
| 09:27.19 | DavidProck1981 | sulogin -e |
| 09:27.29 | ratbert | yes i type it and |
| 09:27.29 | ratbert | su: Authentication failure |
| 09:27.48 | rvsjoen | hacker_kid: ok 'dhclient <interface>' will bring it up if there's a dhcp server on the network |
| 09:28.00 | rvsjoen | hacker_kid: a permanent auto-configuration depends on your distro |
| 09:28.10 | hacker_kid | rvsjoen, there isnt, its a clean network |
| 09:28.11 | ratbert | DavidProck1981, how can i change it |
| 09:28.21 | hacker_kid | rvsjoen, its on lenny |
| 09:28.43 | rvsjoen | hacker_kid: then I suggest you read 'man interfaces' |
| 09:28.52 | hacker_kid | rvsjoen, thank you :) |
| 09:29.16 | rvsjoen | why on earth did I ask for distro... this is #debian |
| 09:29.19 | DavidProck1981 | ratbert tri reboot in single user mode, and see if it will tkae your root pass, if it dont login as the normal user if it dont automaticly put u on it, and just stright out tri passwd root |
| 09:29.23 | rvsjoen | must not be awake |
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| 09:29.25 | DavidProck1981 | passwd root |
| 09:29.31 | themill | !coffee rvsjoen |
| 09:29.31 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of hippy-blend Jamaican Blue Mountain for rvsjoen, courtesy of themill |
| 09:29.39 | themill | that'll solve that problem at least |
| 09:29.45 | rvsjoen | splendid |
| 09:29.53 | hacker_kid | rvsjoen, lol, i have been doing stupid stuff like that all night |
| 09:30.04 | DavidProck1981 | or sulogin -e if that dont work |
| 09:30.30 | ratbert | DavidProck1981, passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root. |
| 09:30.52 | DavidProck1981 | reboot in single user mode |
| 09:30.58 | rvsjoen | does your user by any chance have sudo privileges ? |
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| 09:31.03 | DavidProck1981 | its on your grub menu |
| 09:31.03 | JJOliver | anyone know of any light games? I'm running a computer lab in the heart of Uganda for dispriviliaged kids . . . something light and fluffy? |
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| 09:31.24 | DavidProck1981 | i dont use sudo |
| 09:31.26 | joe|w3design | hi all i installed apache2/php5/mysql5/phpmyadmin, but when i go to http://host.com/phpmyadmin it downlaods the index file |
| 09:31.29 | ratbert | yes i know DavidProck1981 thanks brb |
| 09:31.35 | joe|w3design | however i checked and php is running properly |
| 09:31.40 | DavidProck1981 | ratbert do u have sudo |
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| 09:31.42 | joe|w3design | jjust not for that alias |
| 09:31.46 | ratbert | no DavidProck1981 |
| 09:32.28 | ratbert | do i need DavidProck1981 cuz some one said its just for ubuntu newbies :P |
| 09:32.30 | joe|w3design | but http://host.com/phpmyadmin/index.php wotks |
| 09:32.33 | joe|w3design | works*' |
| 09:32.36 | joe|w3design | any ideas? |
| 09:32.37 | ratbert | brb |
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| 09:32.47 | DavidProck1981 | ok reboot, and on grub use the single sure mode, and then use passwd root , then make a new pass OR if that dont work sulogin -e |
| 09:33.03 | DavidProck1981 | then passwd root if sulogin -e works |
| 09:33.11 | AskingForLove | Say I've got a txt file with 10-20 commands to be run, how do I run that via bash? Can I run the txt file and execute it? |
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| 09:33.49 | rvsjoen | AskingForLove: bash <file> |
| 09:34.08 | rvsjoen | AskingForLove: or add #!/bin/bash as the first line of the file and make it executable |
| 09:34.10 | DavidProck1981 | on my other usb stick, i just installed testing, and right of the bat, it would not let me loging as root in any way shape or form, till i dug around |
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| 09:35.09 | rvsjoen | joe|w3design: did you install it using the package management system ? |
| 09:35.36 | mischief6 | does anyone know how i can copy something from my xfce4 menu to a launcher? |
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| 09:40.21 | AskingForLove | rvsjoen, Thank you |
| 09:40.31 | AskingForLove | How can I check the owner/group of a file/folder? |
| 09:40.42 | rvsjoen | ls -l |
| 09:40.49 | AskingForLove | Thanks again :D |
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| 09:41.03 | rvsjoen | or just stat <file> |
| 09:41.29 | DavidProck1981 | someone let me know how it goes with ratbert, i goto to go for a while while i set up the other system, |
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| 09:44.23 | olspookishmagus | hello once more, is there any guide for how to get connected throught a wireless network interface to a WPA2 with a hidden SSID network? |
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| 09:45.19 | liable | olspookishmagus: you can try one of the gui network managers unless you want to set up wpasupplicant with a config file |
| 09:45.35 | olspookishmagus | liable: I've set up wpasupplicant |
| 09:45.40 | wong12 | Hallo zusammen! Wo liegen die ganzen Dateien von Red5 (einem Streaming Server)? bzw wo sucht man normalerweiße dateien von programmen? |
| 09:45.54 | olspookishmagus | but I don't like the approach that messes with the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 09:46.11 | liable | olspookishmagus: why not, its pretty simple |
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| 09:46.49 | liable | otherwise you can start wpasupp seperately, then run dhclient manually too |
| 09:46.58 | olspookishmagus | liable: there should be an approach that everything should be input from command line say like when using ifconfig to set the ethernet network interfaces configuration |
| 09:47.25 | liable | olspookishmagus: you can do that with wpasupplicant, use wpagui |
| 09:47.28 | olspookishmagus | liable: I prefer the later approach and this is how I will search on it... any information; |
| 09:47.59 | liable | olspookishmagus: just start wpasupplicant with the conf file as an argument, then run dhclient once it has exchanged keys |
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| 09:48.16 | olspookishmagus | liable: ok that was the tip I needed for :) |
| 09:49.16 | liable | olspookishmagus: take a look at the man page, i usually start it with -ddd for debug, but you can background it too if you know your ap behaves itself |
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| 09:49.33 | olspookishmagus | ok I'll get on to it! |
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| 09:55.44 | hacker_kid | i modified my /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted networking. now both cards show up in ifconfig but i have lost internet connectivity (which is through eth0) http://codepad.org/v8J679jT < that is the file before and after my changes |
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| 10:00.42 | rvsjoen | hackman127: does eth0 have an address on the same network ? |
| 10:01.01 | unomi | im having a problem, nslookup 74.208.74.176 tells me 'no servers could be reached' |
| 10:01.13 | rvsjoen | hackman127: ah, forget it, you need to add the gateway address |
| 10:01.21 | lillis | shouldnt a crontab entry saying * * * * * gedit |
| 10:01.25 | lillis | launch gedit every minute? |
| 10:01.37 | lillis | or can I only use terminal apps under cron? |
| 10:01.40 | lillis | console* |
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| 10:02.09 | rvsjoen | hackman127: if you examine 'ip route' you probably don't have a default one |
| 10:02.45 | jahil | lenny 64 dom0 is configured using dhcp - but domU guests are unable to get ip address through dhcp server |
| 10:02.59 | rvsjoen | umm that was directed for someone who is no longer here |
| 10:03.09 | jahil | any idea! |
| 10:03.11 | rvsjoen | anyway i'm out for lunch, _and_ more coffee |
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| 10:04.22 | jahil | lenny 64 dom0 is configured using dhcp - but domU guests are unable to get ip address through dhcp server - dom0 is using bridged mode networking |
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| 10:14.17 | jahil | any hint please |
| 10:15.01 | joe|w3design | Hi all, i setup apache2/php/mysql and installed the phpmyadmin pachange however, when i brows to http://host.com/phpmyadmin it townloads the index.php as a file index |
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| 10:16.03 | jahil | can you able to browse phpinfo.php |
| 10:16.36 | joe|w3design | yep |
| 10:16.44 | joe|w3design | even if i put index.php it works |
| 10:16.46 | joe|w3design | streange |
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| 10:17.16 | jahil | how many times you restart apache? |
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| 10:17.33 | joe|w3design | a couple, howcome? |
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| 10:17.53 | olspookishmagus | hello... I want to rename my wireless network interface... all I have to do is edit my /proc/net/if_inet6 file? |
| 10:18.29 | olspookishmagus | liable: my wireless network interface works as expected and without the need on lame gui's etc, thanks a lot for your tips |
| 10:19.00 | liable | yw |
| 10:19.08 | liable | !z25 |
| 10:19.08 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 10:19.30 | olspookishmagus | ok |
| 10:19.57 | joe|w3design | jahil: any ideas? |
| 10:20.24 | jahil | my friend |
| 10:20.33 | jahil | i face this issue alot |
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| 10:21.21 | rs_ | help | when i try to logginto kde it says kstartupconfig4 error |
| 10:21.38 | rs_ | and exists |
| 10:21.40 | jahil | but your case seems different - can you show me your phpmyadmin vhost configuration |
| 10:21.59 | joe|w3design | it's standard unchanged from lenny |
| 10:22.01 | joe|w3design | but ill paste it |
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| 10:23.55 | jahil | clear your browser cache as-well |
| 10:24.10 | joe|w3design | ohhh hrmm |
| 10:24.10 | joe|w3design | lol |
| 10:24.35 | joe|w3design | i cant believe i forgot to try that |
| 10:24.58 | faffi | haha, clearing browser cache, #1 issue when trying to figure out why your page wont load. |
| 10:25.18 | joe|w3design | it was downloadinf the php source and i still |
| 10:25.22 | joe|w3design | i didnt even think to try that :D |
| 10:25.55 | mosno | liable: how the hell did you remember that z25 tag |
| 10:25.56 | faffi | joe|w3design: so it works now? |
| 10:26.02 | joe|w3design | yep thanks very much |
| 10:26.22 | joe|w3design | must have been still setting up apache the first time i checked or soemthing |
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| 10:26.30 | joe|w3design | and then restarted it and forgot to clear cache |
| 10:26.35 | joe|w3design | :P |
| 10:26.40 | faffi | mosno: it comes up alot :D i had to use it to rename my rausb0 device because it refused to come up |
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| 10:26.54 | faffi | because it had "usb" in the name |
| 10:27.19 | mosno | faffi: i see |
| 10:28.01 | Ovi_1 | hello there. Does anyone know why localhost doesn't resolve to 127.0.0.1? lo is up, and /etc/hosts is configured... |
| 10:28.57 | liable | mosno: that file gave a few people grief back a while ago. |
| 10:29.19 | rs_ | can somebody help me ? |
| 10:29.22 | p0g0_ | liable: still does... |
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| 10:29.27 | superlinux | hi all |
| 10:29.34 | liable | hey p0g0_ |
| 10:29.42 | rs_ | p0g0_: can you help me ? |
| 10:29.47 | superlinux | i am here to have fun by helping others |
| 10:29.58 | superlinux | rs_> |
| 10:29.59 | mosno | liable: the only thing giving me grief right now is Xen, but that's okay, i'm still learning |
| 10:30.02 | superlinux | rs_? |
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| 10:30.19 | superlinux | .. of course help as much as i can |
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| 10:30.44 | rs_ | superlinux: plz heelp me | when i try to change my display manager (KDE) it says kstartupconfigerror4 |
| 10:30.46 | rs_ | and exists |
| 10:30.47 | joe|w3design | thanks jahil |
| 10:30.52 | rs_ | how can i fix this |
| 10:30.54 | Ovi_1 | superlinux: do you know why localhost doesn't resolve to 127.0.0.1? I have /etc/hosts configured |
| 10:30.54 | rs_ | ? |
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| 10:31.08 | rs_ | i need KDE as my disp manager |
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| 10:33.01 | rs_ | superlinux: can you help ? |
| 10:33.11 | superlinux | yes |
| 10:33.17 | superlinux | what is it? |
| 10:33.45 | superlinux | what is kstartupconfigerror4? |
| 10:34.31 | olspookishmagus | ok the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file contains:# PCI device 0x8086:0x1043 (ipw2100) |
| 10:34.31 | olspookishmagus | SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="99:99:99:99:99:99", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1" |
| 10:34.31 | olspookishmagus | should I change the KERNEL parameter to wlan* too, or just change the NAME to wlan0? |
| 10:34.37 | jahil | welcom |
| 10:34.44 | superlinux | Ovi_1 your loopback device is off |
| 10:34.54 | rs_ | superlinux: yeah |
| 10:34.57 | rs_ | i dontknow |
| 10:35.06 | rs_ | when i switch to kde and login |
| 10:35.09 | rs_ | it says that error |
| 10:35.15 | rs_ | and exists to login screen |
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| 10:36.09 | superlinux | rs_ i am on windows now. and at my friend's. look send me the log of X windows |
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| 10:37.01 | rs_ | how do i get the log fo x windows ? |
| 10:37.15 | superlinux | check the /var/log |
| 10:37.20 | superlinux | check the /var/log folder |
| 10:37.29 | Ovi_1 | superlinux: nope lo is up |
| 10:37.50 | Ovi_1 | everything works except resolving localhost |
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| 10:39.25 | superlinux | Ovi_1 just check your hosts file again. maybe written wrongly. maybe not saved |
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| 10:39.36 | kelvinq | hi. i have problems with nagios3. can anyone help? error --> Setting up nagios3-common (3.0.6-3) ... |
| 10:39.36 | kelvinq | *** WARNING: ucf was run from a maintainer script that uses debconf, but |
| 10:39.49 | superlinux | olspookishmagus is your card WLAN? |
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| 10:40.03 | olspookishmagus | superlinux: yes, |
| 10:40.10 | Ovi_1 | superlinux: triple xhecked both the hosts file, lo works |
| 10:40.11 | superlinux | hmmm.. |
| 10:40.45 | superlinux | Ovi_1 nslookup localhost |
| 10:41.10 | olspookishmagus | superlinux: it's this one |
| 10:41.10 | olspookishmagus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.10 | olspookishmagus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.53 | superlinux | olspookishmagus try it wont harm. KERNEL variable will search everything from the kernel starting "eth" |
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| 10:42.23 | Ovi_1 | superlinux: same as host, 67.215.65.132, which is opendns ip |
| 10:42.46 | superlinux | thats wrong then |
| 10:42.56 | Ovi_1 | superlinux: should they query the dns servers for localhost? it always worked before |
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| 10:43.23 | superlinux | NO! localhost must be matching 127.0.0.1 |
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| 10:43.38 | superlinux | and see the resolv.conf |
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| 10:44.02 | superlinux | olspookishmagus try and reboot. see the effects |
| 10:44.29 | enouf | no need |
| 10:44.54 | superlinux | enouf i am not that expert in udev |
| 10:45.03 | kelvinq | hi. can anyone help me with install nagios3? i think i have got a bug in there. |
| 10:45.34 | superlinux | however, will it work if i just restarted the service? |
| 10:45.35 | enouf | olspookishmagus: why do you have to edit that file anyway? it should be autogenerated .. if anything, the iface (NAME) would be incorrect, and/or the MAC/HWaddr doesn't match the iface |
| 10:45.40 | enouf | superlinux: neither am i |
| 10:45.58 | enouf | superlinux: i think one would need to use udevadm |
| 10:46.10 | olspookishmagus | enouf: because it get a lousy name -> eth0_rename |
| 10:46.18 | rs_ | superlinux: theres no file called xwindows in var/log |
| 10:46.18 | olspookishmagus | gets* |
| 10:46.20 | enouf | stop/start it maybe even ... used to be udevcontrol or something |
| 10:46.31 | enouf | stop/start it maybe even ... used to be udevcontrol reload_rules something |
| 10:46.45 | enouf | that was etch though and z25 time |
| 10:46.56 | rs_ | superlinux: what shall i do now ? |
| 10:46.59 | Ovi_1 | superlinux: resolv.conf , /lib/libnss* everything is there |
| 10:47.05 | superlinux | aha true. i started to look at something like udevadm |
| 10:47.05 | enouf | olspookishmagus: ls /sys/class/net |
| 10:47.38 | g0rd0n | hmmm i have the problem that i have one core constantly running at almost 100% and i can't find out what is causing it. i'm looking at htop but there is no process consuming that much. the other core is doing fine though. any ideas? |
| 10:47.38 | olspookishmagus | simply renaming these folders there will do the trick; |
| 10:47.50 | enouf | 'locate libnss' and read :-) |
| 10:47.57 | enouf | olspookishmagus: what? |
| 10:48.07 | enouf | olspookishmagus: ls /sys/class/net |
| 10:48.13 | olspookishmagus | enouf: simply renaming these folders in /sys/class/net will do the trick? |
| 10:48.16 | enouf | no |
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| 10:48.40 | enouf | sysfs (/sys) is just a representation of kernel objects an such |
| 10:48.40 | olspookishmagus | enouf: then what about that folder? can I read some udev documentation somewhere? |
| 10:48.54 | enouf | olspookishmagus: what does ls /sys/class/net say? |
| 10:49.15 | enouf | locate writing_udev_rules |
| 10:49.23 | superlinux | looks for a graphical udevadm |
| 10:49.26 | rs_ | can somebody help me with this problem |
| 10:49.28 | rs_ | ? |
| 10:49.29 | enouf | man udev[tab][tab] |
| 10:49.38 | olspookishmagus | enouf: http://pastebin.com/f48a517fc |
| 10:49.40 | Garda | is squeeze likely going to migrate to KDE4? |
| 10:49.41 | rs_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.52 | enouf | olspookishmagus: one line is ok to paste here |
| 10:50.04 | enouf | there's no way you have more |
| 10:50.50 | enouf | rs_: as root - update-alternatives --config [tab][tab] should list all configuragle through the /etc/alternatives/* |
| 10:50.53 | olspookishmagus | enouf: eth0_rename eth1 irda0 lo |
| 10:52.27 | enouf | olspookishmagus: are all those listed in your z70 file except lo? |
| 10:52.36 | rs_ | enouf: which one and where should i chang to get my kde up and working |
| 10:52.43 | rs_ | plz guide me |
| 10:53.20 | enouf | rs_: i don;t like kde, and know nothing about kde4 |
| 10:53.34 | rs_ | which dispplay manager you using ? |
| 10:53.41 | rs_ | enouf: ^ |
| 10:53.46 | enouf | rs_: as root - update-alternatives --config x-[tab][tab] will home in on most X things |
| 10:53.55 | enouf | why? |
| 10:54.05 | rs_ | so that i can also try usin it |
| 10:54.15 | enouf | !dm |
| 10:54.15 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM. or Debian Maintainer: http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers |
| 10:54.43 | olspookishmagus | enouf: eth0 from the z70 persistent net rules is not listed there |
| 10:54.46 | superlinux | rs_ i was talking about a log file related to Xwindows |
| 10:55.13 | olspookishmagus | enouf: also there's an extre irda0 which is not included in the z70 persistent net rules |
| 10:55.44 | rs_ | superlinux: i dont havea file in log folder called Xwindows |
| 10:55.58 | superlinux | i know |
| 10:56.12 | rs_ | so how to proceed |
| 10:56.14 | rs_ | ? |
| 10:56.20 | superlinux | but there should be some log file like as far as i remember X.log |
| 10:56.35 | superlinux | show me that file |
| 10:56.53 | rs_ | there is one called Xorg.0.log and another called Xorg.0.log.old |
| 10:56.56 | superlinux | and you read it too |
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| 10:57.07 | superlinux | get the latest |
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| 10:57.22 | superlinux | look in the file |
| 10:57.28 | enouf | olspookishmagus: why not mv your 70 file to somewhere else, and reboot, or pkill and restart udev or something |
| 10:57.44 | enouf | olspookishmagus: you have the needed firmware in place? |
| 10:57.48 | superlinux | you should find something related to your problem |
| 10:57.48 | enouf | any possible |
| 10:58.17 | olspookishmagus | enouf: well yes I have |
| 10:58.26 | olspookishmagus | ok I will try it that way |
| 10:58.39 | rs_ | superlinux: http://pastebin.com/m31930d72 |
| 10:58.39 | enouf | olspookishmagus: the irda thing is for something using InfraRed (LIRC) |
| 10:58.55 | enouf | maybe a bluez device? |
| 10:59.01 | olspookishmagus | oh yeah! |
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| 10:59.20 | enouf | olspookishmagus: learn to grep /var/log/dmesg :-) |
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| 10:59.39 | olspookishmagus | ok, ok I would |
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| 11:02.38 | enouf | 'dmesg' itself is the live buffer, so "dmesg | grep <keyword>" usually works as well or even "dmesg | tail" - however, you won't see early boot messages at all (even with a dmesg | pager) if your dmesg buffer is full of other crap - like errors, and/or many suspend/resume events, or many extraneous system/kernel messages in general |
| 11:02.46 | enouf | oh, goner |
| 11:05.17 | enouf | !seen wols |
| 11:05.19 | WaX-Dan | I don't know who wols is. |
| 11:05.37 | xororand | is anyone using nvidia's proprietary driver with debian's libc6-2.9-12? |
| 11:05.53 | enouf | we got a bot! |
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| 11:06.00 | rs_ | superlinux: any ideas how i should proceed ? |
| 11:06.08 | enouf | WaX-Dan: wax on wax off |
| 11:06.26 | WaX-Dan | lol |
| 11:06.32 | WaX-Dan | im not a bot :P |
| 11:06.47 | maligor | xororand, there's a issue with it? |
| 11:07.16 | maligor | 2.9-12 is the first build from eglibc |
| 11:08.00 | maligor | I don't think it has too many changes over glibc yet |
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| 11:11.08 | xororand | maligor: it's probably just a minor thing but nvidia's installers abort the installation of 32-bit compatiblity OpenGL libraries due to file conflicts. (/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/ vs /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/tls) - although it seems that NVidia fixed something. their latest release, 180.60 from May 13th, doesn't have the issue anymore. |
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| 11:12.51 | maligor | oh.. a non-issue |
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| 11:20.12 | xingu | xororand: yes; nmu'd 185.18.04, libc6-2.9-12 |
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| 11:23.25 | Audi-Addict | anyobdy have any experience with zabbix and it's install? |
| 11:23.32 | Audi-Addict | on debian etch? |
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| 11:30.15 | mooperd | anybody mind if I ask something here that I just asked in exim? |
| 11:30.19 | mooperd | #exim |
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| 11:31.13 | mooperd | Im trying to get smtp auth to work, but it aint. working. When I try to send email, I don't get invited to auth and get 'relay not permitted' when I try to send. |
| 11:31.26 | mooperd | http://rafb.net/p/TJ91q663.html - these are the lines I un commented in /etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples |
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| 11:31.48 | mooperd | output of 'exim -bP' http://rafb.net/p/2b4QXL89.html |
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| 11:32.34 | remoteCTR1 | hi all! |
| 11:32.55 | remoteCTR1 | how do i change gthe keyboard layout for the console/login screen please? |
| 11:33.39 | enouf | remoteCTR1: perhaps console-setup and console-data pkgs .. layout? as in locales? |
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| 11:34.09 | remoteCTR1 | enouf, humm,kay ill have a look at that, thanks... |
| 11:36.00 | enouf | remoteCTR1: i think the file file:///etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz is the actual file used, but /etc/console-tools/ contains a config and a remap file |
| 11:37.26 | Garda | is squeeze likely going to migrate to KDE4? |
| 11:38.06 | enouf | see #debian-kde on oftc.net |
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| 11:41.59 | enouf | sees a smiley .. ugh |
| 11:42.03 | remoteCTR1 | enouf, i saw that two files in /etc but i wouldnt know what to do with that boottime.kmap.gz... |
| 11:42.09 | AskingForLove | Hey guys, what's the debian equivalent of editing of M$ hosts file to direct a domain to an IP manually? |
| 11:42.12 | AskingForLove | /etc/hosts? |
| 11:42.19 | remoteCTR1 | the config file in /console-tools does not help |
| 11:42.24 | enouf | remoteCTR1: most times, you wouldn't touch it |
| 11:42.42 | enouf | remoteCTR1: i asked you what you meant by mapping |
| 11:42.45 | remoteCTR1 | enouf, i catually wouldnt it it wasnt accidentially a german keymap |
| 11:42.56 | enouf | !locale |
| 11:42.56 | dpkg | locale is, like, set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 11:42.57 | AskingForLove | Anwsered my own question thanks guys :P |
| 11:43.29 | remoteCTR1 | enouf, ya that only changes the language but not the keyboard layout |
| 11:43.37 | enouf | ... |
| 11:44.23 | remoteCTR1 | gosh this cannot be so hard :D |
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| 11:46.14 | znh | Hello :) |
| 11:46.39 | znh | I tried to install the latest fglrx driver, which gives "unable to allocate memory". This is a known issue seeing Google. How could I install an older version that works? |
| 11:47.02 | enouf | ~$ less /etc/init.d/keymap.sh |
| 11:47.15 | rvsjoen | znh: in sid ? |
| 11:47.29 | enouf | CONFDIR=/etc/console |
| 11:47.29 | enouf | CONFFILEROOT=boottime |
| 11:47.40 | znh | rvsjoen, Lenny |
| 11:47.44 | enouf | CONFFILE=${CONFDIR}/${CONFFILEROOT}.${EXT}.gz |
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| 11:48.17 | enouf | remoteCTR1: ahh yes, man loadkeys |
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| 11:48.37 | enouf | the x equivalent would/might be a .xmodmap |
| 11:48.38 | rvsjoen | znh: which version did you install ? did you install it manually ? |
| 11:48.42 | devel0 | has anyone had a problem with s2ram or pm-suspend where the machine dies , comes back to life but the monitor is simply dumb ? |
| 11:48.58 | znh | rvsjoen, the one from apt-get |
| 11:49.02 | enouf | loadkeys is not persistent thought - hence a boottimekmap.gz |
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| 11:51.17 | znh | rvsjoen, any ideas |
| 11:51.33 | rvsjoen | znh: i'd try installing a newer version, no idea if it will help |
| 11:52.25 | owahab | is KDE 4.2 in unstable branch usable? |
| 11:52.29 | enouf | remoteCTR1: and then there's dumpkeys, and showkey - just a FYI |
| 11:52.52 | faffi | owahab: yep |
| 11:52.54 | ronr | owahab: works fine here |
| 11:52.59 | faffi | but i despise it |
| 11:53.00 | faffi | lol |
| 11:53.04 | owahab | faffi: lol |
| 11:53.13 | faffi | i upgraded cause i wanted dual screen support and links in konsole supported |
| 11:53.24 | faffi | but i was mortified by what they had done |
| 11:53.27 | owahab | I just keep flapping between Debian and Ubuntu for that reason |
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| 11:53.38 | faffi | i'll stick to my 3.5 |
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| 11:55.14 | owahab | : |
| 11:55.18 | owahab | :) |
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| 11:57.44 | tonybaba | How can one change which font is used for japanerse characters in Lenny? |
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| 12:01.17 | enouf | tonybaba: i would imagine within the application? note; dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config ? and /msg dpkg locales (might want to learn about things like fc-cache and such, but not sure if it's deprecated?) |
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| 12:02.38 | enouf | tonybaba: file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/README.Debian might prove useful |
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| 12:04.20 | tonybaba | thanks enouf |
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| 12:09.05 | Audi-Addict | I'm trying to install mysql on my debian etch machine |
| 12:09.06 | devel0 | i tellya ACPI is giving me a hard time today |
| 12:09.20 | ranix | !seen fxiny |
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| 12:09.20 | dpkg | fxiny <~fxiny@host5-48-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 6d 19h 14m 36s ago, saying: 'cjac: lenny ?'. |
| 12:09.20 | WaX-Dan | I don't know who fxiny is. |
| 12:09.21 | Audi-Addict | and I get : mysql-server: Depends: mysql-server-5.0 but it is not going to be installed |
| 12:09.34 | devel0 | Audi-Addict, apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 |
| 12:09.40 | faffi | Audi-Addict: whats the exact command you're using |
| 12:09.45 | faffi | yeah, what devel0 said should do it ;P |
| 12:09.48 | Audi-Addict | apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client |
| 12:10.00 | luxor | can i ninstall wicd ? |
| 12:10.02 | devel0 | use my command |
| 12:10.08 | luxor | it is not in the universe |
| 12:10.13 | devel0 | luxor , apt-get remove --purge wicd |
| 12:10.18 | Audi-Addict | ysql-server-5.0: Depends: mysql-client-5.0 (>= 5.0.51a-24+lenny1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 12:10.20 | Audi-Addict | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.22 | Audi-Addict | E: Broken packages |
| 12:10.25 | luxor | devel0: intall* |
| 12:10.37 | devel0 | but luxor , that will render you without a network management tool , so i suggest you do an apt-get install network-manager |
| 12:10.38 | devel0 | oh |
| 12:10.40 | devel0 | install? |
| 12:10.50 | luxor | yes, i need that app |
| 12:10.53 | devel0 | download wicd , or add their repos in sources.list , and apt-get install wicd |
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| 12:11.01 | devel0 | or dpkg -i wicd-blabalbla.deb |
| 12:11.08 | luxor | devel0: would adding others repos be safe? |
| 12:11.19 | faffi | i dont use a network manager :/ |
| 12:11.24 | ranix | adding ubuntu repositories would be awful |
| 12:11.25 | Audi-Addict | devel0: did u see my error? |
| 12:11.28 | devel0 | why dont you use NetworkManager? |
| 12:11.29 | luxor | faffi: that is why i dont have wireless |
| 12:11.31 | ranix | you want to ask dpkg about backports |
| 12:11.53 | faffi | luxor: you dont need a network manager for wireless... |
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| 12:12.00 | ranix | luxor: I personally suggest simply using iwconfig |
| 12:12.04 | devel0 | Audi-Addict, dpkg --configure -a , that will fix your broken packages , then try an apt-get -f install |
| 12:12.06 | faffi | ranix: i agree |
| 12:12.18 | devel0 | iwconfig is nice too |
| 12:12.33 | faffi | iwconfig is win |
| 12:12.41 | devel0 | gona write me a sweet script to handle wireless automatically on my netbook when im done with this ACPI crap |
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| 12:12.49 | devel0 | cant suspend a bloody machine , cant beleive it |
| 12:12.54 | ranix | especially when you just make a little bas script and drop it into /usr/sbin |
| 12:12.59 | ranix | bash^ |
| 12:13.03 | Audi-Addict | devel0: same problem, this is a clean install of etch |
| 12:13.13 | Audi-Addict | devel0: except for maybe the wrong sources in apt? |
| 12:13.15 | devel0 | ranix, I see we're on the same frequency here :D |
| 12:13.25 | devel0 | Audi-Addict, what do you have in your sources.list ? |
| 12:13.29 | ranix | 2.4ghz |
| 12:13.56 | Audi-Addict | deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 12:14.01 | Audi-Addict | and the security ones |
| 12:14.20 | luxor | ranix: its hard for some reason |
| 12:14.42 | faffi | Audi-Addict: side not, i would add contrib and non-free to the end of that source |
| 12:14.45 | ranix | luxor: give it 15 minutes and that will go away, it's just because iwconfig is sexy |
| 12:15.07 | Audi-Addict | faffi: can you provide me with the correct info to copy and paste? |
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| 12:16.03 | faffi | Audi-Addict: you updated before you tried to install right? |
| 12:16.05 | luxor | ranix: well, lets say i try using this ubuntu box as an access point which is open to other pcs to connect to |
| 12:16.11 | luxor | and access teh internet |
| 12:16.22 | luxor | i uhh must read some boring man page. |
| 12:16.27 | Audi-Addict | faffi: yes, after apt-get update I'm still getting dependency errors on the mysql 5.0 apt-get |
| 12:16.41 | faffi | try apt-get build-dep mysql-server-5.0 |
| 12:17.07 | Audi-Addict | E: Build-dependencies for mysql-server-5.0 could not be satisfied. |
| 12:17.21 | Audi-Addict | How hard can it be to install mysql with apt get :( |
| 12:17.27 | ranix | luxor: this ubuntu box? |
| 12:17.30 | bolt-work | agreed. man pages are too boring. need lesbian porn in them |
| 12:17.38 | luxor | ranix: nah, other box is boontu |
| 12:17.46 | faffi | Audi-Addict: haha something is borked |
| 12:17.51 | AskingForLove | Would anyone mind looking over a very simple bash script for me and confirming it'll work? |
| 12:17.59 | faffi | AskingForLove: you cant test it :o? |
| 12:18.01 | Audi-Addict | faffi: I guess I'll do a reinstall then.. |
| 12:18.02 | AskingForLove | I'm just not confident and don't want to run it unless I know it's ok |
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| 12:18.08 | faffi | Audi-Addict: just upgrade to lenny :) |
| 12:18.12 | bolt-work | i actually think manpages are a lot better than random webpages which may or may not match your copy of the software. most of the world seems to think otherwise though |
| 12:18.12 | faffi | theres no reason not to |
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| 12:18.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | Audi-Addict, why are the build deps broken? |
| 12:18.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, put 'set -ex' at the top and go for it ;) |
| 12:18.52 | themill | Audi-Addict: why are you trying to build mysql anyway? |
| 12:19.02 | AskingForLove | Oh? What does that do? lol |
| 12:19.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | bolt-work, assumes the man page is up to date. not necesarily the case for GNU tools unfortunately |
| 12:19.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, enables debugging |
| 12:19.18 | Audi-Addict | I have been spending 4hours trying to install Zabbix 1.6 :( |
| 12:19.21 | AskingForLove | Oh cool |
| 12:19.25 | Audi-Addict | but I can't even get the depencies to install |
| 12:19.30 | Audi-Addict | this is my 4th reinstall :S |
| 12:19.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, see 'help set' |
| 12:19.46 | faffi | Audi-Addict: why are you using etch? dist-upgrade to lenny :D |
| 12:19.49 | luxor | Audi-Addict: paitence is a virtue |
| 12:19.53 | themill | Audi-Addict: what does building zabbix have to do with rebuilding mysql? |
| 12:20.05 | Audi-Addict | I'm not rebuilding it, I'm trying to install mysql |
| 12:20.08 | Audi-Addict | since zabbix relies on it.. |
| 12:20.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, 'set -vex' can also be handy. |
| 12:20.42 | faffi | Audi-Addict: if it relies on it then it should install it :P |
| 12:20.46 | themill | Audi-Addict: then why are you using "apt-get build-dep" if you're not trying to build mysql? And is there something wrong with the zabbix packages already in debian? |
| 12:20.48 | AskingForLove | One final thing, I'm trying to have the script run without invoking bash, ie bash /path/to/script.sh, I've set #!/bin/bash as the first line but it still won't run unless I invoke it with bash? |
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| 12:21.04 | Audi-Addict | themill: the current debian package for zabbix is outdated (about a year old) |
| 12:21.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, probably not set executable |
| 12:21.12 | faffi | themill: i suggested that he used build-dep cause apt was not grabbing the dependencies for mysql-server-5.0 for him |
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| 12:22.00 | themill | Audi-Addict: zabbix 1.4 is in lenny... |
| 12:22.04 | AskingForLove | Kamping_Kaiser, as in /bin/bash isn't the correct filepath? |
| 12:22.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, on, as in, the file that contains your script is not executable |
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| 12:22.30 | AskingForLove | OH |
| 12:22.33 | Audi-Addict | themill : I need zabbix 1.6.4 |
| 12:22.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, chmod +x filename |
| 12:23.05 | themill | Audi-Addict: then try backporting it from squeeze rather than building it from scratch. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 12:23.13 | AskingForLove | Kamping_Kaiser, thanks man :) |
| 12:23.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | AskingForLove, np. its worth checking the man page for chmod |
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| 12:24.53 | ZA8TU | Package kdict has no installation candidate ... how do i find out the new name or package? |
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| 12:25.12 | luxor | what network manager for the wyfi works on debian naturally |
| 12:25.44 | ZA8TU | !kdict |
| 12:26.00 | ranix | iwconfig |
| 12:26.00 | themill | dpkg: tell ZA8TU about search |
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| 12:26.43 | luxor | ranix: yeaaaah |
| 12:26.44 | ZA8TU | themill: i did apt-cache search with no result that is why i am asking |
| 12:27.05 | DavidProck1981 | huh, am i in as root or normal user |
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| 12:28.20 | DavidProck1981 | i did not install the desktop enviroment, so what package do i need for sound |
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| 12:28.44 | ranix | IIRC, DavidProck1981; alsatools alsa-utils alsaconf |
| 12:28.54 | DavidProck1981 | thanks |
| 12:29.02 | faffi | alsa-base? |
| 12:29.03 | luxor | so how do i connect to this ubuntu box acting as adhoc |
| 12:29.07 | luxor | what the hell is the command |
| 12:29.15 | ranix | I think alsaconf has alsa-base as a depend faffi |
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| 12:29.38 | faffi | ranix: ahh ok :) |
| 12:29.41 | ranix | DavidProck1981: you'll want to apt-cache search for similar packages to those, I think I got the names wrong |
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| 12:30.22 | p0g0_ | luxor: iwconfig may not do all the things you expect, depending on the wireless chipset/driver. |
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| 12:31.02 | DavidProck1981 | i got it |
| 12:31.07 | luxor | i dont care anymore |
| 12:31.17 | DavidProck1981 | btw am i in the irc as root |
| 12:31.27 | ranix | DavidProck1981: don't do that |
| 12:31.31 | faffi | DavidProck1981: no |
| 12:31.36 | DavidProck1981 | i did not shell it as root |
| 12:31.46 | faffi | you're 'prock' |
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| 12:32.07 | DavidProck1981 | oh, i notice the n= i thought that ment root |
| 12:32.39 | ranix | why would you advertise that |
| 12:32.50 | adb | luxor: try wifi-radar |
| 12:32.55 | DavidProck1981 | never mind, im not thinking stright |
| 12:33.03 | DavidProck1981 | wicd |
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| 12:34.03 | luxor | kill me |
| 12:34.20 | luxor | i want to go to sleep |
| 12:34.22 | pauldergaul | pappurnen for user â»Operation timed out |
| 12:34.35 | ranix | !kill luxor |
| 12:34.36 | dpkg | tears a hole in luxor's head with a large lead pipe |
| 12:34.47 | faffi | i didnt know dpkg could do that |
| 12:34.53 | ranix | !lart faffi |
| 12:34.53 | dpkg | stamps faffi on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
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| 12:35.11 | faffi | how am i trolling... |
| 12:35.17 | Dewi | um, after upgrading to lenny the other day, my keyboard mapping in X is kind of crazy. Space types '7', and 'asd' looks like 'abf' |
| 12:35.23 | Dewi | anyone got any idea what happened there? |
| 12:35.36 | Dewi | in gnome, this is... |
| 12:36.29 | ranix | sorry faffi, I did not realize that larting you would stamp you with a Scarlet Letter |
| 12:36.34 | faffi | :o |
| 12:36.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | !lart ranix |
| 12:36.47 | dpkg | declares ranix a moron |
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| 12:36.53 | faffi | haha |
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| 12:39.29 | Dewi | hmm, my X server is tightvncserver |
| 12:39.31 | Dewi | this is probably relevant... |
| 12:39.39 | vi390 | hi, Iam looking for a virtualisation solution. Does somebody have experience in this? Forexample, what is better for running multiple instances of lenny. xen or openVZ. Are there other ones maybe ? |
| 12:40.26 | [cipher] | vi390, check #xen room ;) |
| 12:40.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | vi390, depends why your virtualising |
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| 12:41.47 | vi390 | Kamping_Kaiser: mostly its because I need several Server instances running. Some for Development, and others for this and that. One Desktop Environment shold be there as well |
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| 12:42.18 | vi390 | [cipher]: so you think xen is the correct way of doing virtualisations ? ;) |
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| 12:42.34 | [cipher] | vi390, yes i guess |
| 12:42.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | vi390, I assume you've looked at OpenVZs page on different types of virtualisation ? |
| 12:44.22 | vi390 | Kamping_Kaiser: have had a small overview on xen and openVZ, and so. (do you explizitly mean the hypervisor stuff and so?) What I need are real life experiences |
| 12:44.38 | vi390 | as I know for now Xen has better memory separation. And openVZ shall be easier |
| 12:45.29 | vi390 | but I have to start somewhere, and do not want to install both environments to compare them. Maybe someone already did this comparison. There is almost no real comparison to find out there |
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| 12:47.14 | luxor | WHATR THR W |
| 12:47.33 | vi390 | what I need is easy handling of the guests, and good tools to start, stop, migrate, create and so of guests |
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| 12:47.40 | luxor | nm-applet 0.6.6 fucxking sucks. it actually disconnects the wired network when you try establishing a wireless connection!!!! |
| 12:47.44 | luxor | oh my gawd |
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| 12:48.15 | luxor | i wanted wicd |
| 12:48.32 | streuner_ | look at wiki.debian.org about |
| 12:48.39 | streuner_ | !listkeys wireless |
| 12:48.41 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'wireless' by key (15 of 17): #debian wireless ;; _default wireless ;; netgear wireless #del# ;; seattlewireless ;; what's my wireless ;; what-wireless ;; whats my wireless ;; wireless ;; wireless connection manager ;; wireless connection managers ;; wireless howto ;; wireless tree ;; wireless-infrared/radio control ;; wireless-more ;; wireless-tools. |
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| 12:49.35 | luxor | bookmarked |
| 12:49.45 | streuner_ | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 12:50.03 | streuner_ | you can use interfaces too |
| 12:50.39 | luxor | thank you brother. |
| 12:50.53 | streuner_ | np |
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| 12:59.30 | streuner_ | luxor: please join the channel for your distro. They should know more about bugs about.. |
| 13:00.22 | streuner_ | s/about/ / |
| 13:00.33 | luxor | this is it |
| 13:00.54 | streuner_ | hm, i cannot find that package |
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| 13:01.37 | Tenkawa | what package? |
| 13:01.43 | streuner_ | nm-applet |
| 13:01.47 | Tenkawa | ahh |
| 13:02.06 | ranix | nm-applet is part of network-manager-gnome |
| 13:02.26 | Tenkawa | network-manager-gnome |
| 13:02.39 | Tenkawa | ranix: heh you found it before me |
| 13:02.40 | Tenkawa | heheh |
| 13:02.53 | streuner_ | or he just know it |
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| 13:03.40 | Tenkawa | I just use apt-file for stuff like that |
| 13:04.43 | mischief6 | can anyone tell me where i can find the command line of the items in the menu..? |
| 13:04.55 | rvsjoen | mischief6: what menu |
| 13:05.05 | mischief6 | the xfce4/gnome menu |
| 13:05.17 | rvsjoen | no idea about gnome, but xfce has a menu editor |
| 13:05.28 | rvsjoen | it's an option in the menu ^_^ |
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| 13:07.03 | mischief6 | rvsjoen, where? |
| 13:07.33 | rvsjoen | right click the desktop and go to settings maybe ? |
| 13:08.00 | mischief6 | there is no 'settings' |
| 13:08.07 | mischief6 | there is desktop settings and properties |
| 13:08.24 | rvsjoen | no idea then, my xfce menu has a settings |
| 13:08.28 | Dewi | can somebody with english system settings and running gnome paste me their output from this command? |
| 13:08.32 | Dewi | $ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd |
| 13:08.34 | Dewi | (running lenny too) |
| 13:08.35 | mischief6 | none of which seem to help me find the command action of a menu item |
| 13:09.09 | Wyzard | mischief6: You can drag an item from the GNOME menu to your desktop to put a copy of the launcher there, then right-click on the desktop item and pick Properties |
| 13:09.20 | rvsjoen | mischief6: run xfce4-menueditor then |
| 13:09.24 | Wyzard | mischief6: It used to be possible to right-click on items in the menu itself |
| 13:09.59 | mischief6 | Wyzard, that does not seem possible with my desktop. |
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| 13:10.05 | mischief6 | oh, GNOME |
| 13:10.07 | mischief6 | i am in xfce |
| 13:10.12 | mischief6 | i have gnome though... |
| 13:10.28 | mischief6 | all i want is a copy of 'root terminal' shortcut on my xfce4 taskbar :X |
| 13:10.41 | Wyzard | Maybe you can drag menu items in XFCE too |
| 13:10.44 | DavidProck1981 | what is a good IDE for a C/C++ project |
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| 13:10.58 | Wyzard | Take a look at the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications though |
| 13:11.05 | Dewi | mischief6: look under 'preferences' -> 'main menu' |
| 13:11.07 | rvsjoen | DavidProck1981: vim or emacs |
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| 13:11.12 | Dewi | mischief6: that has all the contents of the applications menu |
| 13:11.12 | mischief6 | DavidProck1981, maybe code::blocks |
| 13:11.34 | mischief6 | Dewi, where is 'preferences |
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| 13:11.45 | Dewi | mischief6: under system, sorry |
| 13:11.45 | DavidProck1981 | does debian have a package for it? |
| 13:12.19 | mischief6 | Dewi, i see no 'preferences' under the system menu :x |
| 13:12.20 | Gremlin | (Chris Hansen coming soon--beware) |
| 13:12.41 | Dewi | mischief6: what's the second item ? :P |
| 13:12.50 | mischief6 | um |
| 13:12.52 | Dewi | mischief6: are you running current gnome? |
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| 13:13.00 | mischief6 | no! i am running xfce!... |
| 13:13.34 | Gremlin | I want to run Asterisk without installing a command prompt. |
| 13:13.41 | Gremlin | Is this possible? |
| 13:13.50 | Dewi | Gremlin: what's installing a command prompt? |
| 13:14.09 | Gremlin | A shell. |
| 13:14.20 | Gremlin | I want to also get rid of /sbin/init |
| 13:14.26 | Dewi | you already have a shell installed, it's part of linux |
| 13:14.32 | Dewi | riiight |
| 13:14.32 | petemc | Gremlin: you can look at things like trixbox or whatever its named now |
| 13:14.34 | Gremlin | No, Linux is a kernel. |
| 13:14.38 | rvsjoen | Gremlin: why would you want to do that ? |
| 13:14.40 | Dewi | Gremlin: gnu/linux then |
| 13:14.45 | Gremlin | To save memory. |
| 13:14.51 | petemc | hah |
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| 13:15.21 | Gremlin | I can put Asterisk's executable as /sbin/init and then it will just be kernel + initrd + Asterisk |
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| 13:15.33 | petemc | no you cant |
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| 13:16.24 | p0g0_ | Gremlin: a couple of things- #freepbx, and * needs some horsepower regardless, if you are joining it to POTs with hardware. The memory footprint isn't too bad in any regard- OpenWRT has it running on embedded devices, for example. |
| 13:16.32 | Dewi | Gremlin: there are probably micro-distributions around to do what you are trying to do |
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| 13:17.08 | Gremlin | I already did a test. I wrote an app in C (a hello world test) and put it in /sbin/ as init. |
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| 13:17.40 | Dewi | Gremlin: Hello World: the Operating System |
| 13:18.03 | Gremlin | Dewi: I already developed the Hello World bootloader ;) |
| 13:18.09 | Dewi | hehe |
| 13:18.13 | Dewi | me too |
| 13:18.18 | Wyzard | Gremlin: Did your test app make use of networking, or any other system facilities that are normally configured at boot time by scripts run from init? |
| 13:18.23 | Dewi | seems easier somehow |
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| 13:19.05 | Gremlin | Wyzard: No, but I've been able to get those things working on my own. |
| 13:19.27 | Dewi | anyone willing to run this for me? gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd | grep layouts |
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| 13:20.12 | Wyzard | Gremlin: If you install asterisk as /sbin/init you will have no IP addresses, and possibly no network interfaces at all |
| 13:20.37 | Wyzard | Gremlin: You will also probably have no swap space enabled, and no filesystems other than the root filesystem, and the root filesystem will most likely be mounted read-only |
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| 13:21.22 | Gremlin | Yeah, but I could use my shell that I developed in Java and run some scripts for that. |
| 13:21.22 | mischief6 | Gremlin, consider http://minimalinux.org/ttylinux/ |
| 13:21.23 | mischief6 | :) |
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| 13:22.44 | EugenMayer | can i do normal VoiP with Ekiga? |
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| 13:26.23 | abrotman | what do you mean "normal" |
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| 13:28.02 | poncha|work | is it possible to get a log of installations / removals from dpkg ? (i want to check if there was a package upgrade on a certain date) |
| 13:28.23 | module000 | poncha|work: /var/log/dpkg? |
| 13:28.38 | jelly | poncha|work: like /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/aptitude ? |
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| 13:30.25 | poncha|work | jelly: thanks ) |
| 13:30.40 | poncha|work | foudn what i needed in /var/log/dpkg.log.* ) |
| 13:30.44 | poncha|work | **found |
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| 13:33.51 | tim_jenssen | hi guys - I got some debian packages from somebody - and now I want to install these packages without install each package alone ... so I am looking for a command like "dpkg --installAllPackagesFromThisPath /packagespath/" - Is there anything? |
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| 13:34.07 | tim_jenssen | is a little bit new in debian |
| 13:35.18 | module000 | tim_jenssen: dpkg -i *.deb not workign for you? |
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| 13:37.20 | abrotman | tim_jenssen: you got packages from "somebody" ... what kind of packages? |
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| 13:38.53 | rahsputin | hi. wrhee can i find an iso image from Debian Etch ? |
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| 13:39.18 | adb | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 13:39.25 | {g} | Hey People! I just reinstalled debian and now I have a problem with the samba shares i mount over the net. In those directories, the usernames show up as numbers now. Any ideas? |
| 13:39.46 | rahsputin | thanx!! |
| 13:39.52 | adb | np |
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| 13:40.39 | module000 | {g}: #samba, and stop spamming every *linux* channel with your query. |
| 13:40.45 | Wyzard | {g}: Numbers (UIDs) are what's actually stored; the "ls" program looks up the name associated with each UID number and displays that |
| 13:41.02 | Wyzard | {g}: If you see a number, it means your system has no user associated with that UID, so there's no name to show |
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| 13:42.11 | DavidProck1981 | hello? |
| 13:43.07 | [cipher] | DavidProck1981, howdy |
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| 13:44.10 | DavidProck1981 | what are some good file managers and arcirvers / extracters not related to a WM like kde or gnome etc. |
| 13:44.20 | DavidProck1981 | cant spell |
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| 13:45.01 | EugenMayer | abrotman: not using ekigas SIP ( i want to use my ISP provers one, becaue i can phone out to wired phones that way ). Actually all i need is a default VoiP phone which can read gnomes contacts ( evolution ) no need for video, sms MMS or what ever there is |
| 13:46.58 | tim_jenssen | thx - this was to easy - or my brain was switched of ;) |
| 13:47.17 | tim_jenssen | module000: ^^ |
| 13:47.41 | module000 | tim_jenssen: no prob |
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| 13:59.10 | {g} | Wyzard: strange, i wonder why my other installation does work. |
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| 14:02.12 | DavidProck1981 | Wyzard do you play sauerbraten |
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| 14:07.20 | sdns | hi there |
| 14:07.22 | DavidProck1981 | lol how to extract .tar.bz2 & tar.gz from command line |
| 14:07.28 | sdns | i've a problem with a pdc on lenny |
| 14:07.34 | sdns | could someone help me? |
| 14:07.39 | OpenTokix | DavidProck1981: tar jfxv file.tar.bz2 tar zfxv file.tar.gz |
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| 14:08.02 | DavidProck1981 | thanks |
| 14:08.07 | OpenTokix | DavidProck1981: f == file, x == extract, v == verbose, j == bzip2, z == gzip |
| 14:08.40 | Zharf | j and z aren't necessary these days for extraction |
| 14:09.03 | Zharf | just tar xf foo.tar.gz will work |
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| 14:11.18 | OpenTokix | Zharf: But then again, you don't know what debian version he is using |
| 14:12.07 | Zharf | OpenTokix, I would assume anyone at least a bit sane using at least lenny :) |
| 14:12.19 | Zharf | didn't sarge do that too? I can't remember exactly |
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| 14:12.39 | OpenTokix | Zharf: my oldest machine is suse 9.2 =) upto debian sid - various |
| 14:12.44 | OpenTokix | Zharf: 100+ servers =) |
| 14:12.58 | Zharf | OpenTokix, I doubt they're all *yours* :) |
| 14:13.09 | Zharf | servers are hardly ever sane though |
| 14:13.11 | OpenTokix | Zharf: I am root == MINE! |
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| 14:13.14 | mustu | hello! i installed GRUB2 .. now it's asks to exec upgrade-from-brug-legacy to fully configure Grub2 .. where do i type it? |
| 14:13.15 | Zharf | hah |
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| 14:14.30 | galen | i need the 2.6.30 kernel on debian, due to some very recent intel wireless driver fixes. No, 2.6.29 won't do. What's the easiest way to get 2.6.30 under debian? |
| 14:14.50 | OpenTokix | galen: compile debianway, to get a kernel deb |
| 14:14.59 | OpenTokix | galen: its a few simple steps |
| 14:15.18 | Zharf | I wonder when libboost-dev will point to newer than 1.34 in sid... |
| 14:15.29 | OpenTokix | galen: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/lenny/ch-common-tasks.html |
| 14:15.49 | galen | OpenTokix: That looks surprisingly painless. |
| 14:15.51 | OpenTokix | galen: best would probably be to compile a module for your running kernel? |
| 14:16.06 | OpenTokix | galen: yeah, welcome to the 21st century |
| 14:16.15 | galen | Try that on centos :) |
| 14:16.18 | Zharf | 21st century sucks |
| 14:16.23 | Zharf | I miss the pain |
| 14:16.32 | OpenTokix | galen: Well centos is complete shit, so why shouldnt that part be that to. |
| 14:16.35 | galen | OpenTokix: The wireless developers won't support anything less than 2.6.30 and there are key fixes there they claim. |
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| 14:16.42 | OpenTokix | oki |
| 14:16.45 | OpenTokix | fair enough |
| 14:17.23 | mischief6 | make-kpkg, woohoo! |
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| 14:18.02 | acu01 | I am trying to install a mail server lenny, postfix, dovecot (or cyrus) - have an account in goddaddy - I have set an A record which points to the IP of my computer - which is webserver - --- I want to configure the same computer to be mail server - what should I place in the MX record - to point to smtp.mydomain.us or the IP address of the mail server ? |
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| 14:18.46 | xerophyte | i am trying to export block device to the domu but its not visible at the domu xm block-attach foodomains phy:xenblock/lvmount /dev/sda4 w |
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| 14:18.51 | xerophyte | does anybody know what am i doing wrong? |
| 14:19.43 | galen | what kernel is in the debian testing build? |
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| 14:20.11 | Zharf | I'd guess some .26 |
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| 14:20.22 | mischief6 | galen, sid has 2.6.29 |
| 14:20.44 | galen | should i go with testing or stable if i am about to upgrade to 2.6.30? |
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| 14:21.35 | stew | galen: when in doubt, use stable |
| 14:22.46 | galen | there are 5 DVDs.... are they all required? this is quite enormous... what is all in there? |
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| 14:23.47 | stew | galen: no, only first, or a single cd (which can be a small one). those are a collection of EVERY possible package for people that might need to install pakcages onto machines with no network connection |
| 14:23.57 | pundito | Hello, is there a way to install Debian from a USB stick without using the netinstall image? Cat-ting the boot image to the USB limits its disk size to 250 MB; how can I make an USB stick which includes at least a CD image - supposed I dont have a LAN cable available which is a prerequisite for the netinstall - ? |
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| 14:24.29 | mischief6 | pundito, unetbootin it? |
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| 14:24.58 | nkuttler | !tell pundito about usb install |
| 14:25.07 | liable | pundito: see the install guide, its explained in booting from usb |
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| 14:25.14 | pmjdebruijn | hi |
| 14:25.35 | pmjdebruijn | somehow with Debian Lenny, my /dev/mapper/mpathX devices aren't prioritized above /dev/sda etc anymore... |
| 14:25.38 | pundito | mischief6, what exactly do you mean by unetbootin? |
| 14:26.05 | mischief6 | pundito, it's a program that will make flash drive boot to any given ISO image |
| 14:26.33 | mischief6 | it's used to make livecds out of distros usually |
| 14:27.25 | stew | pundito: http://d-i.pascal.at/ see "The more flexible way" |
| 14:27.26 | pundito | nkuttler, i have read the pages on wiki.debian.org , however they contradict each other as they say that even a CD can be copied to the usb, at the other hand it says that the usb will be limited to 250 MB after cat-ting the boot image to it |
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| 14:30.26 | pundito | stew, the webpage you mentioned leaves only the netinstall possible... |
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| 14:30.43 | Dassu | Hey |
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| 14:30.50 | stew | pundito: no it doesn't, why? |
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| 14:31.38 | stew | pundito: the instructions even say "Now you may put any Debian ISO image (businesscard, netinst or even a full one) onto your stick (if it fits)." |
| 14:32.21 | pundito | stew: yes. thats the point. it will not fit. because the boot image reduces the disk size to 250 MB |
| 14:32.38 | stew | pundito: you aren't copying the boot image to the disk using that method |
| 14:33.04 | stew | pundito: which is why i'm pointing you at "the more flexible way" instead of "the easy way" |
| 14:33.22 | pundito | mischief6 thanks for the hint to unetbootin; i see it on sourceforge. however, i do not want to have a live cd... |
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| 14:33.54 | mischief6 | pundito, well, it would not be 'live'..it would just boot the debian installer. |
| 14:33.59 | ranix | pundito: is this machine going to have network access? |
| 14:34.15 | ranix | what are you doing here, exactly |
| 14:35.19 | pundito | stew, that makes sense, thanks. yes, it really seems that "the more flexible way" on that webpage (which is almost the same webpage as in wiki.debian.org ) will leave enough space on the USB to copy a CD onto it ... :-S |
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| 14:36.00 | pundito | ranix, i want to produce a USB stick, from which i will be able to install debian without having network access |
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| 14:37.13 | pundito | ranix, PS: WLAN will not work before installation, and suppose a LAN cable is not available |
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| 14:37.45 | Sir-Integra | Could not create the Java virtual machine. |
| 14:37.45 | Sir-Integra | dpkg: error processing sun-java5-bin (--configure): |
| 14:37.46 | dpkg | sir-integra: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 14:37.53 | Sir-Integra | ;/ |
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| 14:38.10 | ranix | I enjoy to create a bootable disc or flash device that uses apt-proxy |
| 14:38.16 | ranix | and use debootstrap |
| 14:38.45 | ranix | I guess I can see why one would rather use the installer though |
| 14:38.49 | ranix | I don't install on many machines |
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| 14:39.40 | ranix | I don't think I would install Debian on a system that wouldn't have internet access that wasn't an embedded device |
| 14:39.48 | ranix | and if it was embedded, I would use debootstrap |
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| 14:39.55 | ronr | on a system with 8GB memory, software raid 1 and a 2.6GHz quad core processor running debian unstable, what kind of performance should I get with bonnie++? (I think my system is way too slow somehow and am testing the hd speed with bonnie++ now) |
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| 14:40.18 | yeretik | Can anybody help me to install and configurate a SVN to upload a project to sourceforge.net? |
| 14:40.30 | lunk | ronr: ram/cpu have nothing (very little) to do with disk speed |
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| 14:40.46 | module000 | yeretik: google can. "SVN HOWTO" is the phrase you want to search. |
| 14:40.56 | yeretik | module000, Thanks |
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| 14:41.02 | mark____ | hey... is there any way i can bind apt to a specific interface when downloading? |
| 14:41.14 | mark____ | well get it to use a specific interface |
| 14:41.27 | lunk | mark____: use a proper route table? |
| 14:41.35 | module000 | mark____: there may be another way, but set your default route to travel the interface you want to use? |
| 14:41.37 | pundito | ranix, the internet access will be WLAN and mobile only, both is no option for installing debian |
| 14:41.45 | ronr | lunk: ok, than I gave too much info to answer the question, that should be preferable to insufficient info right? |
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| 14:41.59 | Isum | heh heh |
| 14:42.14 | mark____ | there is a problem with my dedicated server that causes all traffic going through the main box ip to be really slow |
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| 14:42.29 | mark____ | but aliased IPs are fine |
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| 14:42.42 | lunk | ip conflict somewhere? |
| 14:42.52 | icarus_squared | is there a fluxbox debian package? ie. it comes with fluxbox as opposed to KDE/Gnome/etc. |
| 14:42.53 | mark____ | well i've raised a ticket with the provider |
| 14:43.00 | mark____ | but i was just wondering if there was a workaround |
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| 14:43.23 | mark____ | getting anything from apt currently is 2-3k/s :\ |
| 14:43.42 | duill | why is bug#518855 listed on http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/debian/main.html even though the package where it's resolved has been in testing for over one month? |
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| 14:44.09 | stew | mark____: "/msg dpkg split access" will tell you how to set up more than one routing table. you can use firewall marks to select which routing table (and therefore which outgoing device) |
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| 14:46.59 | mark____ | cheers stew |
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| 14:47.09 | pundito | mischief6, ranix, nkuttler, stew : Thanks! |
| 14:47.16 | adb | acu01: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/mx.html |
| 14:47.38 | hanshans | hi all. is it possible to start a program under a different user? |
| 14:47.59 | mrskynet | iv installed cron-apt i want to automatically get security updates however scared if i add apt-get upgrade to /etc/cron-apt/config it will cause infinite loop ? |
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| 14:51.39 | peterrooney | mrskynet: why would it cause infinite loop? |
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| 14:53.31 | AbsoluteBeginner | Hi All! What is neccessary to do desaster recovery with debian? Is there a best practice and someone has a link to a wiki or something ? I does´nt mean a dd=... I mean a logical desaster recory something like a list of installed packages and than a backup restore concept of ?/etc/ and /var? |
| 14:53.37 | mrskynet | peterrooney, though cron would keep asking f updates are available but come to think of it not very logical |
| 14:53.43 | mrskynet | thought* |
| 14:54.01 | CoolCold | AbsoluteBeginner: dpkg --get-selections |
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| 14:54.22 | jpinx | anyone know the way to make flash appear only on request - when I click on the space - ? |
| 14:54.29 | ranix | AbsoluteBeginner: check it out: http://surf.ap.seikei.ac.jp/~nakano/dump-restore/dump-restore-mini-HOWTO.en.html |
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| 14:54.39 | Kenny_fakur | hi |
| 14:54.39 | AbsoluteBeginner | thx ranix |
| 14:55.00 | ranix | AbsoluteBeginner: this is by no means the only way, but it is arguably the simplest way |
| 14:55.25 | jimcooncat | can I remove U3 with dd or some other linux tool? |
| 14:55.32 | ranix | jimcooncat: no |
| 14:55.44 | ranix | jimcooncat: you need to run the u3 uninstaller in Windows |
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| 14:56.11 | ranix | jimcooncat: IIRC, it's actually a firmware alteration that causes the drive to misrepresent itself as a CD drive rather than a block device |
| 14:56.51 | rahsputin | hi, i am installing etch and need a repo mirror net install |
| 14:56.59 | Chicago | Does jetty by default (in debian) not listen to external interfaces? I am running a jetty app and can connect fine through localhost... but when I try to connect via the real IP, I get a "connecting' and the app times out... (instead of a connection refused)... firewall is down. |
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| 14:57.26 | jimcooncat | Thanks ranix. That rots. Another piece of cr*p to install on my windows computer. |
| 14:57.42 | ranix | sorry jim |
| 14:58.06 | adb | rahsputin: http://archive.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 14:58.21 | ranix | I've relegated my windows computer to being a crap and video game repository |
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| 14:58.39 | jimcooncat | ranix: 's ok. I just did a clean install of Win 2000 for frogger2 this morning. |
| 14:58.40 | ranix | since that seems to be how the original OS developers intended it to be |
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| 14:59.25 | rahsputin | adb http://archive.debain.org/debian etch main ? |
| 14:59.34 | adb | yes |
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| 14:59.41 | rahsputin | kool |
| 15:00.00 | BW^- | i want to create a shellscript invokable by anyone to make apache reloads its config files. |
| 15:00.19 | BW^- | i made a file #!/bin/sh\n/etc/init.d/apache2 reload , chown root.root:ed it and chmod +x +s . |
| 15:00.21 | BW^- | but, it doesn't work |
| 15:00.24 | BW^- | any better idea? |
| 15:00.30 | adb | rahsputin: so > deb http://archive.debain.org/debian etch main |
| 15:00.49 | adb | ;) |
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| 15:00.56 | petemc | BW^-: you cant make shell scripts suid |
| 15:00.58 | epsas | hmm |
| 15:01.11 | BW^- | petemc: ah. |
| 15:01.13 | epsas | Okay - so I have a debian system that I would like to replicate |
| 15:01.14 | BW^- | petemc: how do i fix? |
| 15:01.20 | rahsputin | adb i am useing the installer, and am in the section Choose a mirror of the Debian archive |
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| 15:01.34 | petemc | BW^-: look into using sudo |
| 15:01.42 | epsas | As in: Create a custom debian installer that will install all the packages and configurations to new systems |
| 15:01.50 | epsas | is there a pre-rolled tool for doing that? |
| 15:01.55 | adb | rahsputin: ah , than http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 15:02.18 | BW^- | petemc: can i make sudo somehow automatize? |
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| 15:02.33 | BW^- | petemc: the script needs not require any password or alike, only invoke the addressed thing |
| 15:02.42 | rahsputin | kool, thanx a million HDDs and DDRs |
| 15:02.45 | adb | as user choose |
| 15:02.48 | petemc | muh2000: you can have passwordless sudo |
| 15:02.50 | petemc | bah |
| 15:02.53 | petemc | BW^-: ^^^^^ |
| 15:03.03 | BW^- | oh i start to get the point |
| 15:03.04 | BW^- | cool!!! |
| 15:03.21 | ultraj6 | xen or vmware virtual server? |
| 15:03.38 | BW^- | Wow! Thank yoU! :D |
| 15:03.42 | jpinx-eeepc | anyone know about making flash aptional? |
| 15:03.52 | petemc | ultraj6: both work, xen might seem a little harder to set up |
| 15:04.43 | jpinx-eeepc | ultraj6: vbox headless works too |
| 15:05.09 | abrotman | aptional? |
| 15:05.49 | jpinx-eeepc | optional - even - not showing unless I click it |
| 15:06.15 | abrotman | flashblock ? |
| 15:06.17 | petemc | use a plugin like flashblock or whatever its called |
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| 15:06.34 | ronr | what are decent results for two sata drives in a raid striping configuration (testing with hdparm -Tt /dev/md0 gives 1521MB/sec and 101MB/sec)? |
| 15:06.38 | jpinx-eeepc | ah - it's another plug-in - cool - thanks |
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| 15:09.48 | g00se | Anything good around to test the reliability of the TCP/IP stack? Looking to see whether apps are flaky or the network itself |
| 15:10.07 | xxiao | called Dell and was told they no longer sell any machine with no-os option |
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| 15:10.22 | petemc | g00se: iperf |
| 15:10.27 | ranix | xxiao: they do sell with Ubuntu on them |
| 15:10.36 | ranix | xxiao: can get one of those instead |
| 15:10.42 | jpinx-eeepc | called flashblock - works a treat -thanks guys |
| 15:11.57 | g00se | petemc: Thanks. I'llcheck it out |
| 15:11.58 | xxiao | ranix: looking at them now |
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| 15:13.19 | unjustice | Hi, I lost playback from my computer, but it worked fine last night and I did not update anything or even reboot, speaker-test failed, this si dmesg and lsmod output http://pastebin.com/m43c80a21, anyone know what might be up |
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| 15:14.13 | xxiao | ranix: the sad things is that, ubuntu on dell does not really have any price advantage |
| 15:14.37 | ranix | xxiao: laptop? |
| 15:14.44 | xxiao | ranix: yes |
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| 15:14.55 | petemc | xxiao: it wouldnt, they cant charge people to have their software preinstalled so they lose money |
| 15:15.01 | cahoot | unjustice: speaker-test failed - in what respect? |
| 15:15.24 | unjustice | cahoot: it starts working, but I cannot hear any of the output that appears in terminal |
| 15:15.26 | xxiao | what's the difference comparing to i buy a windows-laptop, then erase it with a linux CD? |
| 15:15.41 | xxiao | i got more options there too, does not make sense to me |
| 15:15.50 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: you can buy laptops with linux installed |
| 15:15.50 | cahoot | unjustice: cat /proc/asound/cards - only one and the one you expect? |
| 15:15.59 | xxiao | jpinx-eeepc: where? |
| 15:16.05 | ranix | xxiao: Dell's linux business is more of a nod to the community than an actual service |
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| 15:16.14 | jpinx-eeepc | eee-pc for example |
| 15:16.17 | unjustice | cahoot: two I expect |
| 15:16.34 | jpinx-eeepc | dells are paid to only sell intel and windows laptops |
| 15:16.42 | unjustice | cahoot: both there http://pastebin.com/m50a22eb5 |
| 15:16.43 | xxiao | jpinx-eeepc: too lower-end, i really like the no-os option as i can install whatever distribution i like |
| 15:16.46 | ranix | I got an AMD from dell awhile back |
| 15:16.50 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: google around - it'll depend on where you're located |
| 15:17.06 | cahoot | unjustice: and they haven't changed places - i e card0 (default) is the one you extect? |
| 15:17.08 | xxiao | jpinx-eeepc: i did googling this morning, am in usa |
| 15:17.12 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: but I have seen linux laptops for sale in several countries |
| 15:17.34 | xxiao | the reality could still be : buy a windows laptop, replace it with whatever os you like |
| 15:17.36 | xxiao | sigh |
| 15:17.37 | unjustice | cahoot: yes, as expected |
| 15:17.43 | cahoot | unjustice: looks like three actually |
| 15:18.02 | unjustice | cahoot: yeah, it read 3 before though, even though there should only be two |
| 15:18.02 | xxiao | jpinx-eeepc: that is, with very limited options, plus no price advantage at all |
| 15:18.06 | xxiao | pointless |
| 15:18.11 | unjustice | I think... |
| 15:18.11 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: you can replace windows with debian, but it's a pity to pay a licence for nothing |
| 15:18.25 | ranix | Windows licenses are worthless anyway |
| 15:18.33 | xoz | xxiao: windows is paying companies to have windows preinstalled like coke or pepsi giving lots of freebies to exclusive stores |
| 15:18.33 | ranix | go to eBay and search for "ram cover" |
| 15:18.39 | ranix | $3 windows licenses |
| 15:18.49 | ranix | the sellers don't bother taking the license off the laptop ram covers |
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| 15:19.31 | jpinx-eeepc | ranix: xxiao you don't even get the CD's with the laptop, so you can do litle with it in terms of language changes etc |
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| 15:19.43 | xoz | similar to drug companies giving doctors freebies to prescribe their drugs. |
| 15:19.45 | cahoot | unjustice: which one is the one you'd want as default - the (onboard) hda-intel? |
| 15:19.50 | eee_555 | hello |
| 15:20.08 | jpinx-eeepc | xoz: no - worse - dell actually are "paid" to peddle shit |
| 15:20.09 | ranix | Microsoft makes all their money from the OEM companies anyway |
| 15:20.14 | eee_555 | any initrd-expert here? |
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| 15:20.18 | unjustice | yeah, then I use qjackctl to record/playback from hdsp...worked fine until last night, but yeah HDA intel is the default |
| 15:20.20 | ranix | My company pays out the ass for Windows licenses |
| 15:20.26 | ranix | $300 for a pack of 3 |
| 15:20.27 | patrikf | !tell eee_555 about ask |
| 15:20.36 | ranix | sell maybe 600 of them a year |
| 15:20.42 | jpinx-eeepc | heh - ranix pays MS shit :) |
| 15:20.45 | xxiao | ranix: you mean "ram cover with windows stick still on"? |
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| 15:21.02 | cahoot | unjustice: if you run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 - still no audible output from speaker-test? |
| 15:21.07 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: do the google search |
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| 15:21.25 | eee_555 | patrikf: may it be possible to initialize an open-vpn-connection from the initrd? |
| 15:21.50 | eee_555 | from which the root-fs is booted through the vpn? |
| 15:21.57 | ranix | xxiao: anyway I assume that you want to avoid somewhat-buying windows on principle sake alone since the license itself is basically cost-zero to the end user? |
| 15:22.22 | ranix | xxiao: my suggestion is just say 'screw it' and get the license anyway |
| 15:22.26 | xoz | eee_555: wow, that's asking too much for a diskless workstation |
| 15:22.27 | patrikf | eee_555: it's certainly possible, but I don't know whether something ready-to-use is available |
| 15:22.59 | ranix | MS is already irrelevant, it doesn't matter if you give them 50 cents for free |
| 15:23.07 | xxiao | ranix: yeah looks like that's the 'wise' thing to do in real life |
| 15:23.30 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: listen to ranix - you're on apoint of principle here - unfortunately there is no cost advantage in looking for a linux laptop - except in the eeepc range |
| 15:23.31 | eee_555 | ok... a step deeper: is there a filesystem... which does something like caching a mounted nfs-root? |
| 15:24.02 | ranix | jpinx-eeepc: poor MS got commoditized lol |
| 15:24.07 | unjustice | cahoot: that worked, but...will it run through that init.rd upon startup? I mean, should I try restarting? |
| 15:24.08 | ranix | too bad, so sad |
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| 15:24.29 | xoz | eee_555: andrew file system? |
| 15:24.31 | cahoot | unjustice: *should* be run automagically |
| 15:24.33 | eee_555 | so.. when i get the openVPN-system working (which i belive is doable)... it should cache the nfs_root localy |
| 15:24.36 | xxiao | just filed a request to replace my amd64 with _any_ intel box at work |
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| 15:25.00 | ranix | how come |
| 15:25.03 | xxiao | i believe, amd64 with either debian or ubuntu, causes some weirdness |
| 15:25.05 | unjustice | cahoot: cool, I will restart and will be back if I have any further problems |
| 15:25.20 | ranix | xxiao: I think that was solved a couple years back |
| 15:25.25 | cahoot | unjustice: just restart alsa |
| 15:25.37 | cahoot | unjustice: i e alsa restart (as root) |
| 15:25.40 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: you are feeding another monopoly ;) |
| 15:25.56 | xxiao | ranix: not really, for example, amd64-ubuntu failed to open a private ssl-site, while x86 has no issue at all |
| 15:25.58 | eee_555 | xoz: thanks. tis like that i need... reading about AFS now |
| 15:26.17 | unjustice | cahoot: that is what /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset0 did? |
| 15:26.18 | \amethyst | xxiao: what browser? was there an error message? |
| 15:26.22 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: that's ubuntu - did you try Debian? |
| 15:26.31 | ranix | xxiao: any intel you get these days is going to be the amd64 architexture anyway |
| 15:26.38 | ranix | architecture |
| 15:26.38 | cahoot | unjustice: no that unmutes and sets reasonable levels |
| 15:26.44 | unjustice | oh |
| 15:27.04 | unjustice | cahoot: so, then...sudo restart alsa? |
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| 15:27.28 | cahoot | unjustice: hmm sudo - smells ubuntu - no? |
| 15:27.37 | ranix | I use sudo |
| 15:27.43 | unjustice | su? |
| 15:27.57 | cahoot | unjustice: never mind |
| 15:28.04 | xxiao | also, the flash-plugin hang on amd64, the nvidia driver eats up memory on amd64, i finally lost my patience this morning |
| 15:28.24 | jpinx-eeepc | cahoot: I use sudo all the time in lenny |
| 15:28.42 | ranix | xxiao: your amd can run 686 just as well as an intel of similar specs |
| 15:28.43 | xxiao | so i was thinking about getting me a powerful laptop, with debian on it (no windows pre-installed) |
| 15:28.49 | eee_555 | Andrew File System looks good! :)))) |
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| 15:29.04 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: sounds like more problem with nvidia |
| 15:29.11 | xxiao | x86 only, no ubuntu, so i can just focus on the real work, |
| 15:29.19 | unjustice | well, thanks |
| 15:29.19 | xoz | xxiao: ah, get a mac then. now windows :) |
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| 15:29.36 | xxiao | xoz: that is, unless i ran debian on mac |
| 15:29.36 | ranix | xoz: he means Debian instead of Ubuntu |
| 15:29.48 | ranix | current macs use amd64 too |
| 15:29.50 | ranix | ;) |
| 15:30.00 | xxiao | i used ubuntu 8.04 for a while on two of my boxes, not they all need return to debian |
| 15:30.18 | xxiao | for whatever reason, i will avoid amd |
| 15:30.21 | jpinx-eeepc | xxiao: powerful laptop is good - but you'll end up with windows pre-installed and just put debian on it - or dual boot |
| 15:30.26 | xoz | xxiao: lesser evil. at least a mac is unix and you can dual boot linux or run linux using virtualbox or vmware or parallel. |
| 15:30.38 | ranix | mac laptops are pretty sexy |
| 15:30.51 | jpinx-eeepc | xoz: you can do all that with debian too |
| 15:30.55 | ranix | and it would satisfy your not-buying-Windows schtick |
| 15:31.00 | xxiao | my centrino laptop rans etch perfectly these years, never had trouble |
| 15:31.10 | petemc | mac hardware is 30% more expensive then the generic equivalent |
| 15:31.29 | ranix | petemc: some mac hardware doesn't have an adequate generic equivalent |
| 15:31.35 | ranix | petemc: specifically, the PowerMac |
| 15:31.37 | jpinx-eeepc | you pay a lot for mac sexiness and no real advantage in the os |
| 15:31.46 | petemc | ranix: they dont make those any more |
| 15:32.01 | xoz | by experience, mac hardware is good quality. my mac titanium is almost 5 years but still looks new with no problem. |
| 15:32.05 | ranix | petemc: slip of the tongue, meant Macbook Pro |
| 15:32.10 | ranix | freudian |
| 15:32.20 | xxiao | mac is simply out of budget for me, plus gcc does not run faster there anyway |
| 15:32.25 | lunk | screw apple and all their fruity over priced crap |
| 15:32.29 | petemc | ranix: you can get something reasonably close to it, or if not now soon |
| 15:32.35 | xxiao | lunk: agree! |
| 15:32.46 | petemc | (i use a macbook myself) |
| 15:32.46 | lunk | no phone or mp3 player should be $400 |
| 15:32.48 | ranix | you won't get a laptop that powerful from any other manufacturer with a similar quality and a warranty |
| 15:32.58 | petemc | eh? |
| 15:33.04 | ranix | the Alienware equivalent will cost more and be less sturdy |
| 15:33.08 | xoz | actually the white macbook has similar price to a piece of junk like dell ;) |
| 15:33.09 | xxiao | anyone tried a 18" laptop? |
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| 15:33.11 | ranix | don't even think about an Acer or Compaq |
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| 15:33.28 | ethanol | imac is pure power and design for a relative low price. just my humble opinion. it's by far their best product line if you ask me (: |
| 15:33.32 | lunk | xxiao: i have, it's called a desktop |
| 15:33.39 | xxiao | thinking about that also, no need to hook to another lcd then |
| 15:33.49 | ranix | IMHO, there are only three types of laptops to buy |
| 15:33.54 | ranix | the $300 laptop |
| 15:33.56 | ranix | the Dell |
| 15:34.01 | ranix | or the Macbook Pro |
| 15:34.02 | xoz | people has still the impression that mac is expensive... maybe some models. |
| 15:34.18 | adb | !ot |
| 15:34.18 | lunk | it IS expensive |
| 15:34.19 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e., Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 15:34.22 | abrotman | gets the impression this is OT |
| 15:34.23 | petemc | they are, apple insist on a larger mark up than other companies |
| 15:34.24 | xxiao | xoz: apple is still locking customers up |
| 15:34.27 | module000 | xoz:as it IS expensive(ie overpriced commodity hardware) |
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| 15:34.36 | xoz | stops being OT |
| 15:34.42 | Roman123 | I've a not debian-related question but I guess here are a lot of english native speakers which know the answer :-) Is the term "it can easily be determined ..." or "it can be easily determined ..." better? |
| 15:34.47 | xxiao | xoz: i just dislike its "i*" brand |
| 15:34.56 | abrotman | Roman123: there is a #english i believe |
| 15:35.00 | epsas | Okay - so I have a debian system that I would like to replicate -- are there any pre-rolled tools for installing customized systems? |
| 15:35.01 | Roman123 | I'm writing a howto about debian |
| 15:35.04 | abrotman | xxiao: try #debian-offtopic |
| 15:35.12 | epsas | ie, the debs and the configurations |
| 15:35.13 | ranix | Roman123: both are acceptable |
| 15:35.15 | Roman123 | that's why I'm asking here |
| 15:35.15 | abrotman | Roman123: and either are fine |
| 15:35.30 | xxiao | abrotman: ok. trying to find a good laptop to install debian, will get dell laptop |
| 15:35.37 | Roman123 | yes, but which one should be prefered? |
| 15:35.38 | Kenny_fakur | whaetver |
| 15:35.41 | xoz | xxiao: so you never own a mac... i think you'll have a different opinion once you have one even the cheapest mode.\l... OT again, sorry. |
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| 15:36.18 | jpinx-eeepc | Roman123: the latter is grammatically more correct |
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| 15:36.54 | Roman123 | ok, thanks. |
| 15:37.01 | ranix | jpinx-eeepc: I would disagree |
| 15:37.06 | jpinx-eeepc | epsas: are you replicating for the same hardware? |
| 15:37.42 | epsas | jpinx - no. same hardware platform |
| 15:37.49 | epsas | but some boxes will need PAE kernels |
| 15:38.32 | jpinx-eeepc | epsas: dd is probably what you want |
| 15:38.36 | abrotman | thought there was a #english ... oh well |
| 15:38.47 | epsas | basically i just want to get "the first mile" done so that the junior admins can do the rest painlessly (or if i get hit by a bus) |
| 15:39.02 | abrotman | oh .. ##English .. |
| 15:39.08 | epsas | jpinx - that won't work -- different hard drives |
| 15:39.23 | jpinx-eeepc | had asked about hardware |
| 15:39.32 | Roman123 | ok, it seems that on #english there are a bunch of Chinese/Japanese/etc. guys. :) |
| 15:39.33 | xoz | #engrish also |
| 15:39.46 | epsas | by hardware platform i mean x86_32 |
| 15:39.58 | epsas | not "Dell C322..." |
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| 15:42.51 | unjustice | cahoot: so i lost playback from amarok again |
| 15:43.10 | unjustice | cahoot: or...still, even with speaker-test working |
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| 15:43.23 | eee_555 | Andrew_File_System looks difficult :( |
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| 15:43.40 | dob1 | hi, there is some way to install xtables-addons on debian stable? the problem is the iptables version |
| 15:43.49 | dob1 | without recompile iptables from source |
| 15:44.05 | SamB | has anyone noticed the way aptitude 0.5.2.1 doesn't seem to default to "~n" anymore in searches ? |
| 15:44.15 | SamB | even though the manual still says it does ? |
| 15:44.31 | \amethyst | SamB: where in the manual? |
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| 15:45.00 | SamB | \amethyst: do you mean that's not supposed to be there ? |
| 15:45.21 | \amethyst | SamB: I found something in the manual that mentions the new behaviour |
| 15:45.22 | SamB | doesn't really like the way the manual is chunked, either ... |
| 15:45.34 | SamB | \amethyst: I could be wrong ... |
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| 15:47.14 | \amethyst | SamB: "Text with no leading <quote>?</quote> also forms a search pattern: &aptitude; will treat each word (or quoted string) as the argument to a &Sterm; pattern, which performs a full-text search against the package database." with a footnote saying that the behaviour has changed, and a warning that it may change again |
| 15:47.43 | \amethyst | SamB: if it does say somewhere that the default is ?name, that would be a bug |
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| 15:49.08 | eee_555 | ok Andrew_File_System seems to have authentication with kerberos... which means user/password... is it possible to implement host-authentication? what i think about: clients with this IP-address are only allowed to see a defined tree of the AFS-Fileserver. |
| 15:49.09 | SamB | is there a way to get the old behaviour back ? |
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| 15:49.45 | justin | eee_555: kerberos doesn't mean user/password |
| 15:50.11 | justin | eee_555: kerberos also has host tickets, dunno if AFS supports that kind of thing though |
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| 15:50.30 | eee_555 | justin: : thanks |
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| 15:52.20 | SamB | \amethyst: hmm. possibly I was looking at the old documentation... |
| 15:52.37 | SamB | thinks possible aptitude should have a NEWS file |
| 15:52.52 | SamB | er, s/possible/possibly/ |
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| 15:53.56 | SamB | \amethyst: what does "a full text search" even mean in this context ? |
| 15:54.03 | SamB | does it just search through the raw file ??? |
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| 15:55.11 | \amethyst | SamB: sounds like it searches all the package metadata, but I haven't tested |
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| 15:56.44 | themill | Probably that it behaves more like apt-cache search rather than apt-cache --names-only search |
| 15:57.34 | unjustice | so, I can do speaker-test but I cannot playback music from amarok or exaile, only vlc |
| 15:57.35 | SamB | While the most basic usage of search â |
| 15:57.35 | SamB | patterns is to match packages by name, aptitude allows you to create much more â |
| 15:57.35 | SamB | complex searches. |
| 15:57.44 | unjustice | anyone have an idea why that would be |
| 15:58.32 | SamB | For instance, ``~mDaniel Burrows'' will match any package â |
| 15:58.33 | SamB | whose maintainer field contains ``Daniel'' and whose name contains ``Burrows'', |
| 15:58.37 | jelly | â? |
| 15:58.47 | enouf | really |
| 15:58.47 | SamB | jelly: that's from aptitude's scrollbar |
| 15:58.54 | enouf | it's nasty |
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| 15:59.05 | SamB | I'm pasting from the embedded viewer |
| 15:59.12 | jelly | gotcha |
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| 15:59.24 | enouf | SamB: you might like the dctrl-tools and grep-dctrl pkgs |
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| 16:00.04 | enouf | SamB: forex; ~$ grep-status -F Maintainer 'marillat@debian.org' -a -F Status -sPackage 'install ok installed' (though aptitude syntax seems much more terse) |
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| 16:00.23 | enouf | s/forex/for ex:/ |
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| 16:01.38 | enouf | unjustice: something hogging /dev/dsp. like flash? or .. |
| 16:01.56 | SamB | wonders why <quote><literal>~napt ?priority(required)</literal></quote> looks like ``~naptà ?priority(required)'' |
| 16:02.07 | unjustice | enouf: nah, I don''t think so |
| 16:02.12 | enouf | unjustice: have you configured the applications to use alsa over all others? how about your DE config |
| 16:02.27 | SamB | oh, worse! |
| 16:02.35 | SamB | Tableà 2.2, “Quick guide to search terms” lists the short form of â |
| 16:02.35 | SamB | each search term. |
| 16:02.36 | unjustice | ? not sure what that is , sound was working... |
| 16:02.36 | enouf | SamB: that is some kooky shit there |
| 16:02.39 | jelly | SamB: eww. |
| 16:02.49 | unjustice | with alsa |
| 16:03.05 | enouf | not sure what what is? |
| 16:03.07 | SamB | must be something wrong with the XSLT or something ... |
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| 16:03.24 | themill | SamB: the aptitude manual has may have crap encoding in it again |
| 16:03.31 | themill | (like it did in etch) |
| 16:03.31 | enouf | heh |
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| 16:03.45 | mustu | apt-get update isn't able to download complete index! |
| 16:03.52 | jelly | has "elinks /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s03.html" in history |
| 16:03.57 | mustu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.00 | enouf | thinline_: even alsamixer and make menuconfig is still coming up with XXXXX for borders |
| 16:04.04 | \amethyst | SamB: it looks like it's being rendered to UTF-8 but you're viewing it with an 8-bit encoding |
| 16:04.06 | enouf | erm themill |
| 16:04.13 | \amethyst | SamB: if you're talking about things like à |
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| 16:04.33 | SamB | \amethyst: I think it might be that it's a UTF-8 file being treated as latin-1, personally |
| 16:04.55 | SamB | because my terminals are set to UTF-8 ... |
| 16:04.55 | \amethyst | SamB: that's what I meant |
| 16:04.59 | enouf | latin-1 == iso-8xxx == 8bit ? |
| 16:04.59 | \amethyst | SamB: oh |
| 16:05.10 | enouf | heh |
| 16:05.16 | themill | SamB: given that you're using aptitude from experimental here, you are going to be filing bugs on these things, aren't you? |
| 16:05.16 | \amethyst | latin-1 = iso-8859-1 is one of the more-common 8-bit encodings |
| 16:05.24 | SamB | enouf: well, iso 8869-1 |
| 16:05.30 | enouf | 59! |
| 16:05.33 | enouf | hike! |
| 16:05.36 | enouf | ;-) |
| 16:05.37 | SamB | oops |
| 16:05.40 | SamB | fingerslip |
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| 16:05.47 | SamB | I was thinking 59! |
| 16:05.56 | enouf | has fat (and big) fingers |
| 16:06.00 | fenhir | argh... |
| 16:06.45 | jxberth | hey nguys, I have added some RAM to my PC, and I got somewhat aggressive with the timings, and now the PC just beeps when powered on and doesnt even get to the BIOS |
| 16:07.02 | SamB | also ... does anyone else think the HTML output for the aptitude manual is broken up into excessively many pages ? |
| 16:07.03 | enouf | jxberth: reset the BIOS |
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| 16:07.12 | jxberth | enouf: how? |
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| 16:07.19 | enouf | jxberth: flash it if necessary - to Setup Defaults |
| 16:07.27 | mns | Not knowing much about audio players and which is better to use or not, I'm trying to decide between mplayer and alsaplayer ? Any thoughts ? I don't care for GUI interfaces and skins and such. |
| 16:07.31 | enouf | jxberth: pull the CMOS battery |
| 16:07.43 | SamB | enouf: how do you flash it without booting ? |
| 16:07.53 | jelly | jxberth: sounds like you need to consult your montherboard's manual |
| 16:08.00 | enouf | SamB: it boots, just not into BIOS |
| 16:08.07 | nkuttler | enouf: in case you remember, booting with vga=0x144 gives no visible console and vga=144 complains about an incorrect mode and presents the valid ones |
| 16:08.16 | SamB | mns: alsaplayer has this neat variable-speed thingy |
| 16:08.27 | enouf | SamB: i've done it with nothing more than the trifecta (CPU/Mobo/RAM) + a floppy drive |
| 16:08.31 | SamB | so you can make stuff sound like the chipmunks, or even play it backwards |
| 16:08.32 | jxberth | so how do I reset the BIOS guys? |
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| 16:08.40 | jelly | nkuttler: 0x144 doesn't sound like a valid mode |
| 16:08.45 | jxberth | remove the cmos BATTERY AND THEN WHAT? |
| 16:09.01 | jelly | jxberth: wait a few (~10) minutes, put it back |
| 16:09.02 | SamB | jxberth: put it back after a while? |
| 16:09.08 | enouf | jxberth: count to 20 and replace it |
| 16:09.08 | nkuttler | jelly: wasn't sure if the kernel does hex |
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| 16:09.18 | jxberth | enouf: thanks |
| 16:09.24 | enouf | jxberth: a;ll depends .. how old a system? what CPU? |
| 16:09.27 | jelly | nkuttler: it does, but the modes are all above 0x200 |
| 16:09.39 | mns | SamB: I don't think I'll need that, as mostly I'm going to use it as a backend for my music management system. (Emacs/EMMS). |
| 16:09.44 | unjustice | enouf: what is DE config? |
| 16:09.46 | jxberth | intel P4 3.6GHz, 4GB RAM |
| 16:09.48 | mustu | Why this source not working http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/updates/main/source/Sources |
| 16:09.48 | SamB | wonders what he can do about his bad RAM/mobo |
| 16:09.51 | enouf | jxberth: many have Maintenance mode,and recovery Mode jumpers .. see Manual |
| 16:09.58 | SamB | mns: well, I wouldn't use mplayer for that myself ... |
| 16:10.05 | jxberth | enouf: I'll check the manual |
| 16:10.07 | enouf | unjustice: GNOME or KDE or XFCE or ... |
| 16:10.18 | unjustice | I have both, and KDE |
| 16:10.23 | enouf | unjustice: their control panels / applets |
| 16:10.38 | unjustice | not the problem, sound fails in all desktop environments |
| 16:10.48 | mns | SamB: Why wouldn't you use mplayer ? a techincal reason or a personal pref ? |
| 16:10.55 | SamB | EMMS can't use mpg{123,321} and ogg123 directly |
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| 16:11.26 | SamB | mns: it can play audio, but doesn't really seem to be made for the task ... |
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| 16:11.43 | SamB | it seems to work better for video |
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| 16:11.53 | mns | hmmm ok |
| 16:12.13 | mns | Maybe I'll just use both, one for audio and one for video |
| 16:12.14 | GhostlyDeath | Is there any way for date to print time in 12-hour instead of 24-hour by default (plain date)? |
| 16:12.17 | enouf | jxberth: ok - that's not the old style where you reboot with the jumpers set differently - so just do what i mentioned, don't boot till CMOS settings are drained / lost - see manual ;-) Eventually, you might need to go into the submenus to config some things correctly , it all depends upon your BIOS chip code |
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| 16:12.28 | SamB | personally, right now I'm using foobar on my XP machine ;-) |
| 16:12.42 | enouf | unjustice: that makes no sense |
| 16:12.49 | mns | foobar ? there is something called foobar ? lol |
| 16:13.04 | enouf | unjustice: that conclusion is ... a very ignorant one |
| 16:13.04 | SamB | yeah, it's for windows |
| 16:13.36 | SamB | goes to weed his mom's garden ... |
| 16:13.37 | unjustice | enouf: my apologies, but if an applet was affecting alsa...wouldn't I not be able to get ANY playback? |
| 16:13.39 | enouf | Foobar2000 |
| 16:13.44 | enouf | Audio Player |
| 16:13.46 | mns | thanks for the help samb |
| 16:14.01 | enouf | unjustice: no - and speaker-test != playback |
| 16:14.04 | enouf | IMHO |
| 16:14.19 | faffi | speaker test == cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp? |
| 16:14.26 | unjustice | works fine |
| 16:14.28 | enouf | !soundcheck |
| 16:14.29 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp ...use Ctrl-C to stop it after a few seconds. If it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 16:14.37 | enouf | !speaker-test |
| 16:14.38 | dpkg | somebody said speaker-test was do; "speaker-test -tsine -f440 -c2" or perhaps "speaker-test -t wav -c 2" for a nicer female voice, instead of a tone to test if speakers are working in alsa (install alsa-utils), ask me about <alsa checklist> and <soundcheck> |
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| 16:14.49 | epsas | faffi - not good advice |
| 16:15.01 | faffi | epsas: why? |
| 16:15.13 | epsas | because it might damage speakers |
| 16:15.23 | epsas | and eardrums |
| 16:15.24 | GhostlyDeath | I read also checklist as alsa chicklist |
| 16:15.34 | enouf | unjustice: you haven't even mentioned anything specific, like DE, or which card/module, which Debian release, which Kernel , wtc |
| 16:15.37 | enouf | etc* |
| 16:15.42 | enouf | what you di to break it |
| 16:15.48 | unjustice | nothing |
| 16:15.49 | GhostlyDeath | ALSA Sound Test Chicks: American Accent, British Accent, German Accent, etc. |
| 16:15.50 | unjustice | no updates |
| 16:15.57 | enouf | unjustice: ok, it's all my fault |
| 16:16.01 | enouf | !blame me |
| 16:16.02 | dpkg | blames dmc_ and enouf for all the evil in the world |
| 16:16.04 | GhostlyDeath | alsa* |
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| 16:16.30 | unjustice | enouf: no applets, just left, I posted earlier all of the information you are asking about, i can post again, no need to be hostile...just trying to understand |
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| 16:16.39 | fenhir | installed debian debian-501-i386-netinst.iso. installation worked really nice... no problems... booted nice... (had installed XFCE)... XFCE started nice... but I cant use my mouse. tried different mice: "Microsoft Serial Mouse 2.1A" directly on /dev/ttyS0 and "Microsoft Intellimouse 1.1A PS/2 Compatible" ofer PS/->Serial-Adapter on /dev/ttyS0... nothing.. tried really hard now. nothing is seen with "cat /dev/ttyS0"... but the mouse on ttyS0 is defi |
| 16:16.39 | fenhir | sk. The problem exist not only with debian. Ubuntu 9.04 and 8.10 and Dreamlinux 3.5 have the same problem. Any help? |
| 16:16.39 | unjustice | enouf: I apologize for my ignorance |
| 16:16.43 | enouf | likes catting /proc/kcore or ... even /dev/hda1 to dsp |
| 16:16.57 | jelly | likes pink noise |
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| 16:17.22 | enouf | wants to Paint it Black, but can only find pink and white |
| 16:17.23 | GhostlyDeath | jelly-home: brown and pink noise combined is nicer! |
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| 16:17.53 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: what kind of of mouse do you have? |
| 16:17.58 | Elirips | Hello. How can I set the DISPLAY value on a remote system to point to the display of the computer i'm currently sitting at? |
| 16:18.00 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: PS/2, Serial, or USB? |
| 16:18.01 | unjustice | enouf: I was playing music last night, checked modules, dmesg, and cat /proc/asound/cards...and lsmod...no errors whatsoever, someone here got my speaker-test working by running init.d reset |
| 16:18.10 | jelly | GhostlyDeath: speaker-test doesn't have a brown-noise option. I also like clean underware. |
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| 16:18.29 | GhostlyDeath | jelly: what does underwear have to do with this? |
| 16:18.30 | enouf | init.d reset? |
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| 16:18.34 | enouf | wtf is that? |
| 16:18.50 | fenhir | GhostInTheShell: "Microsoft Serial Mouse 2.1A" directly on /dev/ttyS0 and "Microsoft Intellimouse 1.1A PS/2 Compatible" ofer PS/->Serial-Adapter on /dev/ttyS0 |
| 16:18.53 | cocotron | anyone know if the debian live cd's include headers? |
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| 16:19.05 | unjustice | enouf: /etc/alsa-utils reset0 |
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| 16:19.24 | apostle | how to change uid of script? |
| 16:19.39 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: Is that what the real mouse tells you (not the OS)? |
| 16:19.50 | apostle | pardon me.....this is my error....ust be root user (UID 0) to run this script! |
| 16:19.54 | jelly | GhostlyDeath: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note |
| 16:20.00 | cahoot | unjustice: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 16:20.20 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: If it truly is a serial mouse, you are reading from the correct port also, correct? |
| 16:20.29 | fenhir | GhostInTheShell: that ar the product-names on the backs of the mice. so both are connected to /dev/ttyS0... which meand the first derial port |
| 16:20.33 | enouf | unjustice: pastebin these ; dpkg -l \*alsa* | grep ^.ii ; cat /proc/asound/{cards,modules} ; lsof | egrep 'flash|artsd|esd|pulse' ; lspci -nnk | grep -i audio |
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| 16:21.22 | enouf | unjustice: run dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base and select alsa - and pastebin the other info way above about Lenny and Kernel version, and who's kernel and whatnot |
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| 16:21.34 | fenhir | GhostInTheShell: yes port is correct /dev/ttyS0... ttyS0 and tty S1 are recogniced correctly from the kernel at boot |
| 16:21.55 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: when you read from these and move the mouse, does it register? |
| 16:22.10 | enouf | unjustice: cahoot is better at this than i - so listen to him/her |
| 16:22.14 | fenhir | GhostInTheShell: and yes.. it is truthly a serial mouse... old computer without usb or ps/2 port |
| 16:22.17 | cahoot | unjustice: judging from you earlier pastes there's nothing wrong with the basic alsa setup |
| 16:22.37 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: so if you were to cat /dev/ttyS0 then you see garbage printing on the screen |
| 16:22.57 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: Is your x config using the mouse? |
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| 16:23.13 | fenhir | cat /dev/ttyS0 or ttyS1 gives nothing |
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| 16:23.55 | fenhir | GhostInTheShell: before i get the mouse with x working i shoud see something with cat /dev/ttyS0.. i think... X comes later |
| 16:24.03 | enouf | dmesg | grep /dev/ttyS |
| 16:24.15 | enouf | oh wait - buy a %$ ps/2 mouse |
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| 16:24.58 | GhostlyDeath | what if he has no PS/2 ports? |
| 16:25.01 | enouf | dmesg | grep tty should suffice |
| 16:25.15 | enouf | GhostlyDeath: he does - he's using adapters ;-) |
| 16:25.25 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: did you try the other ttyS? |
| 16:25.31 | epsas | 1/win 12 |
| 16:25.38 | fenhir | GhostInTheShell: yes tried both |
| 16:25.39 | unjustice | cahoot: http://pastebin.com/m43be28d3 |
| 16:25.45 | enouf | and .. if there's no ps/2, toss that POS into the dumpster |
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| 16:25.53 | fenhir | enouf[ 1.600263] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A |
| 16:25.53 | fenhir | [ 1.600853] serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A |
| 16:25.56 | GhostlyDeath | "...PS/->Serial-Adapter..." |
| 16:26.07 | unjustice | cahoot: not sure I understood the dpkg-reconfigure linux sound-base command |
| 16:26.13 | enouf | wrong address |
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| 16:26.35 | fenhir | [ 1.600263] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A |
| 16:26.35 | fenhir | [ 1.600853] serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A |
| 16:26.43 | enouf | you're backwards |
| 16:26.45 | enouf | [ 4.433755] 00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A |
| 16:26.53 | enouf | oh |
| 16:27.10 | enouf | i missed the orig - my bad |
| 16:27.24 | enouf | Indentation threw my eyes |
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| 16:27.50 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: did you try moving the mouse as the system boots? |
| 16:27.54 | cahoot | unjustice: start from scratch; alsa force-reload, invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 (1 and 2 respectively) then try speaker-test -t wav -c2 |
| 16:27.56 | fenhir | argh and connection probs.... sorry... was any solution or question |
| 16:28.02 | enouf | uses usb->ps/2 adapters on 199x hardware |
| 16:28.12 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: no |
| 16:28.26 | enouf | fenhir: what CPU? |
| 16:29.01 | fenhir | enouf: [ 0.087226] CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 00 |
| 16:29.17 | enouf | fenhir: and uname -r ? |
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| 16:29.32 | maligor | a 3D processor eh :P |
| 16:29.33 | unjustice | I cannot reset 0 unless I give a -- "something" afterward..which one? debug? |
| 16:29.46 | jimcooncat | Please comment if you're interested in removing U3 with linux: http://jimcooncat.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/attempting-to-remove-u3-from-linux/ |
| 16:30.02 | fenhir | Linux version 2.6.26-2-486 (Debian 2.6.26-15) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 Thu Mar 26 00:13:41 UTC 2009 |
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| 16:30.08 | fenhir | from the netinstall-CD |
| 16:30.12 | enouf | fenhir: and does the POST show it recognized? |
| 16:30.17 | unjustice | cahoot: I cannot reset 0 unless I give a -- "something" afterward..which one? debug? |
| 16:30.21 | cahoot | unjustice: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 gives an error? |
| 16:30.37 | enouf | ok - -486 should work if anything - not sure which that k6 is |
| 16:30.46 | fenhir | enouf: what did u mean with POST? sorry not english-motherlanguage |
| 16:30.50 | GhostlyDeath | jimcooncat: dd! |
| 16:30.55 | enouf | Power On Self Test |
| 16:31.01 | GhostlyDeath | when the computer starts |
| 16:31.04 | enouf | the scrolling text as you boot |
| 16:31.07 | GhostlyDeath | it prints all this stuff |
| 16:31.21 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: constantly move the mouse then turn the computer on |
| 16:31.22 | fenhir | you mean at boot... that the serial-port is recognized? yes. as said the mouse works on the samemachine on the same port with BartPE |
| 16:31.26 | GhostlyDeath | and keep moving the mouse |
| 16:31.36 | GhostlyDeath | and see if it is detected when linux starts |
| 16:31.39 | jimcooncat | GhostlyDeath: would be interested in knowing how, have seen posts that dd doesn't work |
| 16:31.40 | enouf | the hardware detection and recognition and IRQ assignments from the BIOS before it hands over control to the OS |
| 16:31.54 | unjustice | not an error, exactly cahoot: http://pastebin.com/m6a09df8e |
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| 16:32.02 | jimcooncat | GhostlyDeath: it's in the firmware |
| 16:32.03 | enouf | !u3 |
| 16:32.04 | dpkg | [u3] a company producing a proprietary method of auto-launching applications from specially formatted USB flash drive. "U3 smart drives" differ from traditional USB flash drives because they come preinstalled with the U3 Launchpad, which looks similar to the Windows OS start menu and controls program installation. The method only works with recent Microsoft Windows systems.. These devices also appear as cdrom drives, and use a ISO FS in some part |
| 16:32.15 | enouf | !remove u3 |
| 16:32.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, remove u3 is U3 removal for Linux: http://zenthought.org/content/project/youthree (WARNING: DESTROYS DATA) |
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| 16:32.43 | GhostlyDeath | jimcooncat: so then it's probably ROM |
| 16:32.48 | jimcooncat | thanks enouf, I'll check that out |
| 16:32.50 | cahoot | unjustice: .Invalid card number. - so there's no card0 in /proc/asound? |
| 16:33.20 | unjustice | http://pastebin.com/m3099ee4 |
| 16:33.23 | unjustice | should be |
| 16:34.06 | jimcooncat | enouf: wow, that's scary |
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| 16:34.30 | MikeH | hrm, I've just used scp to transfer 13G of files, the ssh connection dropped after 4GB, can I have scp resume where it left off? |
| 16:34.46 | GhostlyDeath | MikeH: I think so |
| 16:34.57 | cahoot | unjustice: true - they've changed places though - the Hammerfall has become card0 - is that an ordinary soundcard? |
| 16:35.09 | jpinx-eeepc | MikeH: I believe so - but use rsync for a better method |
| 16:35.34 | GhostlyDeath | yes, rsync --partial |
| 16:35.40 | enouf | ohhh shiny .. a hammerfall? |
| 16:35.46 | fenhir | you mean after i pressed in GRUB to boot Debian.. constantly moving the mouse would help? |
| 16:36.09 | GhostlyDeath | add --rsh=ssh for a precaution though |
| 16:36.18 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: try that |
| 16:36.20 | unjustice | external with pci insert, not my default |
| 16:36.28 | GhostlyDeath | before Debian starts and while it is starting |
| 16:36.42 | GhostlyDeath | fenhir: worth a shot |
| 16:36.54 | GhostlyDeath | usually serial mice will send stuff to the computer when it does something |
| 16:37.02 | fenhir | i try that.... but i doubt it helps... i assume it is a general kernel 2.6 problem |
| 16:37.15 | jelly | MikeH: scp doesn't do resume. |
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| 16:37.34 | fenhir | or something with the new hid |
| 16:37.38 | kolpur | if we select remember password during adding a new account .. the passwords are clearly visible in the accounts.xml in home directory ...is there any method to encrypt the password ... other than unchecking the remember password ? |
| 16:38.10 | GhostlyDeath | kolpur: new account on what? |
| 16:38.17 | fenhir | booted: nothing |
| 16:38.18 | jelly | kolpur: which channel did you want? |
| 16:38.20 | enouf | sounds like a gnome registry issue :-) |
| 16:38.26 | GhostlyDeath | you could encrypt the home directory! |
| 16:38.27 | unjustice | should I switch it? |
| 16:38.34 | kolpur | ya during a new account adding |
| 16:38.44 | GhostlyDeath | kolpur: adding a new account to what? |
| 16:38.46 | \amethyst | kolpur: an account in what program? |
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| 16:38.51 | enouf | anything XML == gnome registry :-O |
| 16:38.53 | fenhir | with ctrl-shift-num i can use the keyboard... but thats not soooo funny |
| 16:38.53 | cahoot | unjustice: no but you can make alsa always order them the same way |
| 16:39.07 | unjustice | how? |
| 16:39.09 | kolpur | in pidgin .. instant messenging multiprotocol program |
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| 16:39.17 | enouf | well .. with a remember passwd dialog bov |
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| 16:39.24 | GhostlyDeath | kolpur: You could use an encrypted filesystem |
| 16:39.27 | enouf | box* |
| 16:39.27 | GhostlyDeath | like encfs |
| 16:39.43 | GhostlyDeath | or |
| 16:39.47 | jpinx-eeepc | kolpur try #pidgin |
| 16:39.55 | \amethyst | he's there already |
| 16:39.56 | enouf | ecryptfs |
| 16:39.58 | GhostlyDeath | just make an encrypted directory and symlink the file in there |
| 16:40.03 | kolpur | is there any method to store the password in encrypted version in the settings file of pidgin |
| 16:40.10 | cahoot | unjustice: one method is to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and give the respective modules indices 0,1 and 2 |
| 16:40.24 | fenhir | i had a serial mouse working on that machine... but that was in kernel 2.4 or 2.2 days |
| 16:40.31 | \amethyst | http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords |
| 16:40.37 | cahoot | unjustice: like Options snd-hda-intel index=0 |
| 16:40.43 | jpinx-eeepc | kolpur try asking in #pidgin you have a specific pidgin question - not debian |
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| 16:41.27 | jpinx-eeepc | kolpur: and don't ignore their answer and come here asking the same thing ;) |
| 16:41.32 | fenhir | any debian 501 with kernel 2.4 around? or can i easyly install another 2.4kernel which is lying arounf somewhere? |
| 16:41.48 | enouf | heh .. no |
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| 16:42.12 | unjustice | http://pastebin.com/m439bff9 this is what I have right now |
| 16:42.25 | kolpur | jpinx--eeepc : i posted the same question over there .. but didn't get a reply .. so had to post it here |
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| 16:42.32 | enouf | fenhir: does that box have atleast usb 1.1? |
| 16:42.37 | Kenny_fakur | !seen BettyFord_failed |
| 16:42.38 | dpkg | bettyford_failed <n=gnu@217-162-237-78.dclient.hispeed.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 18h 2m 39s ago, saying: 'im drunk i think'. |
| 16:42.38 | WaX-Dan | I don't know who BettyFord_failed is. |
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| 16:42.44 | fenhir | enouf: no |
| 16:43.00 | enouf | fenhir: and no ps/2 ports? |
| 16:43.04 | fenhir | enouf: and no PS/2... only two serial-ports |
| 16:43.16 | fenhir | and one gamport from soundcard |
| 16:43.20 | enouf | !gpm |
| 16:43.20 | dpkg | gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the app itself interprets the mouse clicks. |
| 16:43.27 | fenhir | maybe i would get it working with a joystick... LOL |
| 16:43.37 | \amethyst | kolpur: putting it in an encrypted filesystem is probably your only option according to the link I pasted |
| 16:43.45 | unjustice | snd-hda-intel index=0 shoudl be first line then? |
| 16:43.46 | enouf | heh - the 15pin gameports == win |
| 16:43.49 | fenhir | enouf : i thrid a lot with gpm... nothing helped |
| 16:44.03 | enouf | gpm-config even? |
| 16:44.06 | kolpur | i'm going through the faq of pidgin |
| 16:44.16 | enouf | or whatever it is |
| 16:44.21 | cahoot | unjustice: scroll to the end of the file |
| 16:44.55 | \amethyst | kolpur: did you read the link I pasted? |
| 16:44.57 | fenhir | yes |
| 16:45.17 | \amethyst | kolpur: it explains in detail why pidgin does not obfuscate the passwords |
| 16:45.30 | unjustice | okay, I added and saved it |
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| 16:45.42 | cahoot | unjustice: like Options snd-hda-intel index=0 ? |
| 16:46.01 | enouf | fenhir: time to go curbside hunting or dumpster diving for atleast a p2, preferable a p4 or better ;-) |
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| 16:46.03 | unjustice | didn't do options, just did hda-intel one |
| 16:46.11 | cahoot | well redo and do it right |
| 16:46.32 | cahoot | as per the lines already present in the file |
| 16:46.37 | enouf | unjustice: do you have any sort of ~/.asound* or an /etc/asound.conf or similar? |
| 16:46.43 | unjustice | yes |
| 16:46.49 | enouf | ruh roh |
| 16:46.54 | Audi-Addict | anybody know where I can find mysql_config? |
| 16:46.57 | Audi-Addict | configure: error: Not found MySQL library |
| 16:47.00 | Audi-Addict | I'm seeing this error |
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| 16:47.27 | fenhir | enouf: i hate it to give up... normaly with linux ALL is possible... except serial mice ^^ |
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| 16:47.48 | enouf | it's doable .. just sometimes, i have no patience ;-) |
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| 16:48.05 | unjustice | wait, it appears to be gone, odd...I made one before |
| 16:48.26 | enouf | fenhir: does cat /proc/bus/input/devices list it? |
| 16:48.29 | fenhir | and there REALLY is on backport eith a 2.4-kernel for debian lenny? |
| 16:48.47 | enouf | no |
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| 16:48.59 | \amethyst | Audi-Addict: apt-file search mysql_config # => libmysqlclient15-dev: /usr/bin/mysql_config |
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| 16:49.13 | Boris | Hi |
| 16:49.15 | enouf | fenhir: even read the etch release notes ;-) |
| 16:49.29 | fenhir | enouf: no only keyboard and power-button |
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| 16:49.31 | \amethyst | Audi-Addict: if there is a debian package for the thing you are building (even an older version), you might try apt-get build-dep packagename |
| 16:49.50 | enouf | certain specific 2.4 implementations could be made to workj .. but with pain |
| 16:49.59 | Boris | anyone knows what to do after getting this error |
| 16:49.59 | Boris | http://pastebin.ca/1422796 |
| 16:50.01 | enouf | fenhir: i thought so |
| 16:50.07 | Audi-Addict | \amethyst: there is no package for my zabbix 1.6 source |
| 16:50.19 | Audi-Addict | when trying to configure/compile it, it says missing mysql |
| 16:50.26 | Audi-Addict | and this should be because it's missing that config file |
| 16:50.32 | unjustice | this would be much less frustrating, if everything was not working last night...blech. In any case, do I need to add /etc/asound.conf? and what would it need to include? |
| 16:50.58 | Audi-Addict | checking for mysql_config... no |
| 16:51.00 | Audi-Addict | configure: error: Not found MySQL library |
| 16:51.05 | enouf | unjustice: have you had a power failure .. or even rebooted? |
| 16:51.09 | Audi-Addict | it stops on this part |
| 16:51.09 | \amethyst | Audi-Addict: see my first comment for 1. the package name and 2. how to find it out yourself in the future |
| 16:51.13 | Boris | could anyone see at my pastbin for a sollution : http://pastebin.ca/1422796 |
| 16:51.14 | Boris | thnx |
| 16:51.23 | fenhir | there HAVE to be someone with a 2.6-kernel and a working serial-mouse... i cant believe it... but google doesent help me |
| 16:51.38 | unjustice | I rebooted after the sound stopped working' |
| 16:52.00 | Audi-Addict | apt-get install libmysqlclient15-dev ? |
| 16:52.12 | enouf | unjustice: but prior, when was last reboot ? and .. were there upgrades in between? |
| 16:52.38 | Boris | someone ? |
| 16:52.43 | fenhir | ok... any tip for a installable distribution with a 2.4-kernel? slackware maybe? |
| 16:52.58 | \amethyst | fenhir: seen http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/serial-mouse-driver-for-2.6-kernel-298178/ ? |
| 16:53.26 | enouf | unjustice: is snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss loaded? lsmod |
| 16:53.36 | fenhir | Hi , as we all know that the 2.6 kernel does not support a simple serial mouse .. |
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| 16:53.41 | fenhir | WTF... i knew it |
| 16:53.49 | unjustice | no power failures |
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| 16:54.05 | \amethyst | fenhir: err, you might want to keep going |
| 16:54.06 | Audi-Addict | \amethyst: thanks for the info, now I'm stuck on this error : configure: error: Not found Curl library |
| 16:54.13 | fenhir | \amethyst: thanks... so i knew it was ne me, which is the problem |
| 16:54.17 | simonrvn | fehum, bullshit |
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| 16:54.36 | simonrvn | ok, that was lame |
| 16:54.49 | simonrvn | fenhir: um, bullshit |
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| 16:55.19 | g00se | Boris: Looks like you need to install a locale |
| 16:55.27 | unjustice | this hammerfall is awesome, been recording for weeks, but just lost all playback |
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| 16:56.10 | \amethyst | Audi-Addict: libcurl-dev (which should pull in libcurl4-gnutls-dev) |
| 16:56.25 | \amethyst | Audi-Addict: in general you'll be looking for packages that start with 'lib' and end with '-dev' |
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| 16:56.27 | spenser | Hi, I'd like to rebuild the debian kernel and use kernel package on Red Hat 5. How can I do this? |
| 16:56.29 | stew | fenhir: when i run "/sbin/modinfo sermouse" in 2.6.26, i get "description: Serial mouse driver" |
| 16:56.34 | fenhir | simonrvn: ? i even tried that... cat /dev/psaux does nothing, too |
| 16:56.56 | stew | fenhir: you are trying to use a serial mouse? or a ps2 mouse? |
| 16:57.28 | Audi-Addict | \amethyst: why do they make linux so hard ;) configure: error: Invalid NET-SNMP directory - unable to find net-snmp-config |
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| 16:57.38 | fenhir | stew: i tried modprobe sermouse, too allready... nothing |
| 16:57.57 | stew | fenhir: are you trying to use a serial mouse or a ps2 mouse? |
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| 16:58.29 | stew | fenhir: (that sermouse driver IS serial mouse support for your kernel, your statement: "2.6 kernel does not support a simple serial mouse" is false) |
| 16:58.33 | fenhir | stew is either a serial mouse or a ps2-mouse with a ps2-serial-adapter on serial... i tred both |
| 16:58.43 | themill | Audi-Addict: as I mentioned to you this morning there *is* a debian package for that zabbix thing already and that will make your life a lot easier. |
| 16:58.53 | stew | fenhir: /dev/psaux is not for serial mouse, it is for ps2 mice |
| 16:59.01 | stew | fenhir: what port is the mouse currently plugged into? |
| 16:59.02 | Boris | g00se |
| 16:59.04 | Boris | like what? |
| 16:59.09 | Audi-Addict | tehmill that is a 1.4 version :'( |
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| 16:59.33 | \amethyst | Audi-Addict: never mind, you don't listen |
| 16:59.35 | \amethyst | good luck |
| 16:59.51 | fenhir | stewok. i have to say.. kernel 2.6 does not support a WORKING serial-mouse driver... but nevertheless this statement was not from me.. it was the first sentence on that link posted here |
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| 17:00.06 | themill | Audi-Addict: No, 1.6 is in the testing repository and because someone has already done the work at packaging it for you, you can make use of that work to be able to work out what you need to install. |
| 17:00.10 | Boris | stew : can you look at my pastebin and think what coud be wrong : http://pastebin.ca/1422796 |
| 17:00.12 | stew | fenhir: it does support a working serial-mouse driver |
| 17:00.28 | fenhir | stew: /dev/ttyS0 |
| 17:00.30 | stew | Boris: what command gives you that error? |
| 17:00.45 | Boris | ./pbsetup.run (( |
| 17:00.49 | stew | fenhir: i meant what physical port |
| 17:00.55 | stew | Boris: what is that? |
| 17:00.56 | fenhir | serial port 1 |
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| 17:01.02 | stew | Boris: what user did you run that command as? |
| 17:01.03 | Boris | withouit any options used |
| 17:01.04 | fenhir | which is ttyS0 |
| 17:01.07 | Boris | root |
| 17:01.52 | Boris | i did a net image install and configt my ssh. |
| 17:02.24 | Boris | must be very minimal at install and usage |
| 17:02.31 | stew | Boris: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
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| 17:02.55 | stew | Boris: you ran this program from inside X, not logged into a text console, right? |
| 17:03.10 | Boris | no |
| 17:03.17 | stew | Boris: it needs to run under X |
| 17:03.23 | Boris | hmm. |
| 17:03.43 | stew | Boris: "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" was saying that it was trying to connect to an X server |
| 17:03.48 | Boris | x should be like a graphical usage right ? |
| 17:03.54 | Boris | ok |
| 17:03.55 | unjustice | cahoot: ? |
| 17:04.01 | stew | Boris: yes |
| 17:04.12 | fenhir | i am really getting nuts here without a mouse... maybe i should buy a cheap USB-PCI card... could be usefull for hdds and bluetooth, too |
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| 17:04.41 | lindenle1 | Hi all, does anyone know how to rescan the pci-express bus. |
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| 17:04.59 | Boris | so just aptitude install x-server or ? |
| 17:05.03 | unjustice | enouf: http://pastebin.com/m32765bd7 |
| 17:05.16 | stew | Boris: do you know which window manager or desktop environment you want to use? |
| 17:05.29 | Boris | none i hope ;=) |
| 17:05.30 | stew | Boris: something like gnome or kde or fluxbox or xfce or ... |
| 17:05.34 | Boris | i only use my ssh |
| 17:05.35 | Boris | so. |
| 17:05.53 | stew | Boris: oh, you are connected to this machine using ssh as root? |
| 17:06.05 | stew | Boris: from a machine running X? |
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| 17:06.17 | stew | Boris: if so, you don't need an X server on the remote machine |
| 17:06.23 | fenhir | the funny thing is... the packet "mtdetect" or something similar detected a mouse on /dev/psaux... but it is a false-positive |
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| 17:07.47 | Boris | ok |
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| 17:08.14 | Boris | so just ignore the msg ? |
| 17:08.19 | stew | no |
| 17:08.42 | stew | Boris: are you connected via ssh from a machine running X? |
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| 17:09.35 | Boris | i connected true putty |
| 17:09.46 | Boris | am* |
| 17:09.46 | stew | Boris: are you connected from a machine running X ? |
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| 17:11.01 | Boris | no |
| 17:11.04 | Boris | true putty |
| 17:11.07 | Boris | from vista |
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| 17:11.26 | stew | Boris: does the debian machine have a keyboard and moues and monitor? |
| 17:11.59 | stew | Boris: becuase it seems that whatever you are trying to run is an X application, so you need an X server somewhere |
| 17:12.00 | ranix | maus |
| 17:12.23 | stew | ja |
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| 17:13.32 | unjustice | cahoot: not sure what to do with .asound, I added this http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hdsp |
| 17:13.42 | unjustice | cahoot: at the very end of the page |
| 17:14.13 | Kenny_fakur | can he? |
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| 17:16.42 | unjustice | cahoot: I am going to reboot |
| 17:16.45 | unjustice | cahoot: brb |
| 17:16.46 | fenhir | ok, tried to get X workling... maybe X sees the mouse, where "cat /dev/ttyS0" sees nothing... put Device "/dev/ttyS0" in the xorg.conf |
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| 17:17.42 | Boris | ok |
| 17:17.58 | fenhir | X says: "Device" is not a valid keyword in this section |
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| 17:18.54 | Cope | Is it possible to remove a package from teh dpkg database without removing the package - ie to make it look as if a package has been removed, when it isn't? |
| 17:19.04 | fenhir | what does X say here to me? I cant configure the device in xorg.conf? |
| 17:19.06 | Ace2017_- | fenhir: sounds like you have a bad xorg.conf |
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| 17:19.29 | Ace2017_- | fenhir: pastebin it |
| 17:19.56 | fenhir | Ace2017_-: its the working xorg.conf from a fresh debian 501-install... X starts without that DEvice configured |
| 17:20.08 | Boris | stew : the server has indeed a keyboard and a monitor |
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| 17:20.25 | Boris | but they are most likly not attached |
| 17:20.48 | fenhir | Ace2017_-: i should paste the whole xorg.cof here? |
| 17:20.52 | Ace2017_- | yea |
| 17:21.01 | stew | fenhir: no, don't paste here; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 17:21.04 | fenhir | moment |
| 17:21.08 | adama__ | uh |
| 17:22.00 | Boris | stew :should i install x only for my attached monitor and keyboard incase of this error? |
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| 17:22.15 | Ace2017_- | wonders how he could have misread such a simple sentence... |
| 17:22.35 | fenhir | i dont know what pastebon is |
| 17:22.37 | ranix | lol at pasting a whole xorg.conf here |
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| 17:22.46 | ranix | and saying yea |
| 17:23.01 | ranix | that made me laugh, because it was so ridiculous |
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| 17:23.33 | unjustice | cahoot: now speaker-test fails |
| 17:23.35 | unjustice | cahoot: and no playback |
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| 17:24.30 | znh | umm |
| 17:24.44 | znh | I messed up /etc/passwd's permissions, what should it be? |
| 17:25.03 | unjustice | ARGGH!, you can pm me if you think of anything, I am heading out |
| 17:25.14 | Boris | stew still there |
| 17:25.23 | stew | Boris: yes, youd need to at least "aptitude install xorg" you may want to also install a window manager or desktop environment |
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| 17:26.13 | Boris | hmm |
| 17:26.18 | Boris | i not rly need it |
| 17:26.32 | Boris | and the meaning is that its a server |
| 17:26.43 | Boris | cause for server phurposes |
| 17:28.03 | fenhir | Ace2017_-: ,stew got it: http://paste.debian.net/36150 |
| 17:28.43 | Audi-Addict | i'm trying to find the dev package |
| 17:28.46 | Audi-Addict | that contains |
| 17:28.46 | stew | Boris: what is this file you are trying to run? |
| 17:28.47 | Audi-Addict | net-snmp-config |
| 17:28.55 | Audi-Addict | anbody know which apt-get install package I need? |
| 17:29.05 | stew | Audi-Addict: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 17:29.19 | stew | Audi-Addict: please dont' use the enter key in place of punctuation |
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| 17:30.31 | Audi-Addict | sorry stew |
| 17:31.03 | Ace2017_- | thats a bad xorg.conf, it doesn't even have a serverlayout section |
| 17:31.07 | fenhir | Ace2017_-: any failures in that xorg.con... besides that line with ttyS0? |
| 17:31.30 | fenhir | but it works |
| 17:31.37 | Ace2017_- | so whats wrong? |
| 17:31.46 | fenhir | and it is the fresh from the installation |
| 17:32.00 | fenhir | Ace2017_-: my mouse isnt working... still |
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| 17:32.23 | fenhir | X starts... XFCE starts... i can login.. but no mouse |
| 17:32.36 | adb | fenhir: do , as root > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 17:33.00 | fenhir | adpi did that on ubutu... didnt worl either... try it with debian now |
| 17:33.37 | abrotman | adb: that won't do much of anything on lenny |
| 17:33.49 | zizzfizzix | hi guys! i wanted to install debian on my new desktop, i must do this from pendrive so i downloaded and installed http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz |
| 17:34.00 | adb | fenhir: put > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" |
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| 17:34.03 | zizzfizzix | instaled = dd-copied it to pendrive |
| 17:34.08 | adb | abrotman: oh, ok |
| 17:34.15 | abrotman | adb: xorg should do that for him .. he shouldn't have to change his xorg.conf |
| 17:34.17 | zizzfizzix | but now when i boot it it wants iso file |
| 17:34.19 | zizzfizzix | why? |
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| 17:35.00 | adb | abrotman: he just does it |
| 17:35.02 | ranix | adb: /dev/input/mice? |
| 17:35.25 | adb | ranix: or so |
| 17:35.26 | ranix | would be more correct imo |
| 17:35.35 | ranix | unless ps2 specifically in which case /dev/psaux |
| 17:35.35 | fenhir | adb: the same as in ubuntu: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just lets me configure the keyboard.. not the mouse |
| 17:36.06 | ranix | fenhir: /dev/input/mice is a catch-all driver type thing for all input devices, these days |
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| 17:36.39 | ranix | fenhir: manually editing xorg.conf is superior to using wysiwig conf programs, even dpkg-reconfigure sometimes |
| 17:37.35 | fenhir | X dowsnt like a Device configured as i showed in http://paste.debian.net/36150/ |
| 17:37.39 | zizzfizzixx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:38.42 | Ace2017_- | fenhir: this is pretty much my xorg, you'll have to change the graphics card driver and uncomment it, http://pastebin.com/d7082f721 |
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| 17:40.25 | abrotman | fenhir: do you have a serial mouse ? |
| 17:40.37 | fenhir | abrotman: yes |
| 17:41.11 | abrotman | fenhir: does 'serial' appear in lsmod ? does /dev/ttyS0 exist? you should probably use /dev/input/mice instead of /dev/ttyS0 |
| 17:41.21 | abrotman | /dev/input/mice is the aggregate of mouse inputs |
| 17:41.27 | abrotman | (or something like that) |
| 17:41.48 | abrotman | waves his arms around and makes silly claims |
| 17:42.25 | fenhir | serial is not in lsmod.. but sermouse |
| 17:42.25 | Ace2017_- | abrotman: you seem to know a bit about mice, can you have 2 mouse pointers on a single screen in xorg? i want one for each mouse |
| 17:42.32 | fenhir | ttyS0 exist |
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| 17:43.11 | Ace2017_- | fenhir: dmesg might show when the mouse got detected and what its showing up as |
| 17:44.47 | fenhir | Ace2017_-: smesg showes just the two ports ttyS0 and ttyS1 |
| 17:45.27 | fenhir | and mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice |
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| 17:46.27 | fenhir | abrotman: btw.. there is no module serial |
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| 17:46.44 | abrotman | Ace2017_-: that i don't know .. ask #xorg |
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| 17:47.07 | abrotman | fenhir: dmesg | grep -i mouse |
| 17:47.14 | abrotman | oh .. sermouse is there |
| 17:47.28 | abrotman | fenhir: are you using gpm also ? |
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| 17:48.19 | fenhir | i did a grep through dmesg for mouse... which gives: mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice |
| 17:49.28 | fenhir | abrotman: i tried around with gpm, too.. no success... i thought normally a mouse should first be visible through "cat /dev/ttyS0" or something like that... if that works... gpm should work, too |
| 17:50.29 | fenhir | btw /dev/mouse doeant exist on a fresh lenny |
| 17:51.01 | abrotman | it's /dev/input/mice |
| 17:51.14 | fenhir | this one exist |
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| 17:51.22 | jpinx-eeepc | a request for help in #mplayer produced this answer = jpinx-eeepc: we don't support two year old crippled mplayer |
| 17:51.36 | fenhir | but cat /dev/input/mice doesnt work either |
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| 17:52.10 | jpinx-eeepc | so - can anyone here help please? mplayer myfile.mp4 gives me this output http://pastebin.com/f4b48dc67 Can anyone tell me how to fix it? |
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| 17:53.05 | fenhir | Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" in xorg.conf doesnt work, too |
| 17:53.05 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: did you try another player like vlc ? |
| 17:53.51 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: yes - it didn't play the file either |
| 17:54.17 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: did you try the mplayer from debian-multimedia ? |
| 17:54.25 | jpinx-eeepc | sheesh the guys in #mplayer are seriously rude |
| 17:54.54 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: I just ran aptitude install mplayer and it works for most stuff |
| 17:55.09 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: but that's using the one from lenny ... |
| 17:55.23 | abrotman | and yes .. #mplayer doesn't like the debian pacakged mplayer |
| 17:56.21 | jpinx-eeepc | yea - I have lenny |
| 17:56.21 | neoice | if I create a virtual interface, say eth0:0, how do I control programs that dont bind to interfaces, like irssi for example? |
| 17:56.21 | petemc | control? |
| 17:56.21 | neoice | with apache and other servers, you can specify to bind to * or eth0 or lo |
| 17:56.42 | neoice | irssi seems to prefer eth0:0 when I want it on eth0 |
| 17:56.44 | petemc | why would irssi bind to an interface? |
| 17:57.00 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: reading dpkg's version of dmm now - thanks |
| 17:57.09 | neoice | it doesnt. I asked about programs that DONT bind |
| 17:57.26 | petemc | so you want it to use a different interface for outgoing connections? |
| 17:57.47 | neoice | I suppose. how is it determined which device to use? |
| 17:58.00 | epsas | interesting problem |
| 17:58.10 | petemc | you would need to configure the routing, its not something ive done |
| 17:58.22 | epsas | well, it would be custom routing for each application |
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| 17:58.56 | neoice | it seems like just doing 'ifconfig eth0:0 $ipaddr' causes everything to then use eth0:0 though |
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| 17:59.36 | neoice | does it matter that the 2 interfaces are on the same subnet? xx.xx.xx.25 and .42 specifically |
| 17:59.48 | abrotman | you tell us .. |
| 18:00.20 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: after adding dmm and updating etc, do I have to purge the existing mplayer before installing theirs? |
| 18:00.23 | avu | do you really need this interface distinction though? |
| 18:00.37 | avu | most of the times what you really want is just one interface with >1 IP |
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| 18:01.23 | neoice | I do have a specific case where its needed, but for the most part, no. I'm just playing with my second IP until I get my new hardware and start running xen |
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| 18:01.49 | kickar | hey guys is lspci in pciutils ? |
| 18:01.58 | avu | !tell kickar about search |
| 18:02.43 | kickar | avu, its simple yes or no ? |
| 18:02.47 | kickar | i am with windows now |
| 18:02.49 | kickar | :( |
| 18:03.05 | neoice | kickar: I think it is |
| 18:03.06 | avu | and that factoid told you how to find such things out for yourself even if you're not running debian |
| 18:03.21 | neoice | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/pciutils/filelist |
| 18:03.30 | neoice | tada |
| 18:04.06 | luckylucy | i am still having issues with loosing routes during restart. now that i have restarted, i get incorrect routing table and cant restart networking or eth0. i get Failed to bring up eth0, but i am still connected, so it is up. |
| 18:04.39 | module000 | luckylucy: you can re-write your routing table upon connection with if.up.d and such you know |
| 18:04.51 | jpinx-eeepc | installs mplayer from dmm anyway and hopes for the best |
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| 18:05.09 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: i wouldn't think so .. i do'nt use mplayer |
| 18:05.41 | luckylucy | module000: i tried sudo ifup eth0, failed to bring up eth0. is that the same function as if.up.d, i am not familiar. |
| 18:05.44 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: it seems to be upgrading - so we'll see ;) |
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| 18:06.10 | jpinx-eeepc | moves abrotmans apostrophe around |
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| 18:06.23 | module000 | luckylucy: no, ifup eth0 just brings eth0 online... if.up.d is a directory of scripts that run when eth0 has been brought up. so after it comes up, you can place a script there to re-write your routes to your preference |
| 18:06.29 | abrotman | !apostrophesmite jpinx-eeepc |
| 18:06.29 | dpkg | smite's jpinx-eeepc with a plague of extraneous apostrophe's. |
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| 18:06.59 | jpinx-eeepc | even dpkg gets is wrong :p |
| 18:07.12 | luckylucy | ah, so the scripts in there now are probably wrong since for some reason this specific computer is the only one with the problem. |
| 18:07.20 | jpinx-eeepc | !typo |
| 18:07.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, typo is when someone tries to type really fast without knowing what he is actually doing.... so he makes typing mistakes, or rm -rf / |
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| 18:11.26 | zizzfizzixx | is there any way of expanding .img images? |
| 18:11.29 | luckylucy | module000: i see only openssh-server and mountnfs. it is the same for my working system (i have two computers). could you explain a little further why one would need this and not the other? |
| 18:11.58 | luckylucy | by this i mean the script you are suggesting needs to be written. |
| 18:12.51 | neoice | are youn looking in /etc/network/ ? |
| 18:12.58 | g00se | Why should *part* of aptitude (just some repos) work over a proxy and not others? |
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| 18:13.21 | luckylucy | neoice: yes, and in /etc/network/if-up.d |
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| 18:14.06 | neoice | does look like you'd need to write something custom or google someone else's solution |
| 18:14.10 | g00se | More precisely, it's volatile and security that are playing up |
| 18:14.27 | toni | is there any free/commerial patch management software which support debian as ewll? |
| 18:14.34 | toni | like patchlink |
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| 18:14.58 | luckylucy | neoice: why? from what i read, the routing table should get the info from /etc/network/interfaces, which is correct |
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| 18:16.38 | luckylucy | put a static ip, netmask and gateway in /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesn't use them on startup? and i cant reload them? makes absolutely no sense? |
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| 18:17.05 | fenhir | tried nearly all now from http://pastebin.com/d7082f721 several protocol... severall devices... none is wirking... an di still think, when i cant see anything with cat /dev/ttyS0... there is no ttyS0 attached mouse visible to the kernel... and i think it is really a kernel-problem becouse it exist on debian 501, ubuntu 9.04 and ubuntu 8.10 |
| 18:17.13 | module000 | toni: **NO** at patchlink |
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| 18:17.34 | module000 | toni: yes to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 18:17.43 | toni | module000: 100+ servers? |
| 18:18.07 | module000 | toni: yes, 4 or 5 lines of bash script beats patchlink...i have to tolerate on several hundred already |
| 18:18.52 | toni | module000: and you have somekind of centralized view somehow? |
| 18:19.06 | module000 | toni: are you talking also...about applying debian security updates, or third party updates as well?(such as patchlink provides) |
| 18:19.45 | toni | module000: managing, knowing our patch situation, automating.. things like that |
| 18:19.49 | toni | module000: like satellite on redhat |
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| 18:20.17 | fenhir | ok... i do a backup now... can someone give me a tip how i enable XFCE to be used frome remote with vnc? |
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| 18:21.01 | module000 | toni: hrm...we use satellite as well. i don't know of anything available to drop into debian to accomplish what satellite does, but a bash script to check-in with a master list would probably only be a half hour or so to get working |
| 18:21.03 | fenhir | not Xvnc... a working XFCE on the screen to be controlled through vnc |
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| 18:22.30 | toni | module000: ok.. I tried to google those as well, but couldn't find anything |
| 18:22.43 | toni | module000: usually there are some opensource stuff for everything :) |
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| 18:23.23 | noppe | what are the proper settings to get fonts to look decent on a tft? |
| 18:23.43 | fenhir | so i can use an vncviewer in fullscreen and controll trough it with a wirless-mouse on the vncviewer the debian-computer with the XFCE, where the mouse is not working? |
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| 18:24.24 | fenhir | as a workaround until this "§$%"§$%$-mouse works |
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| 18:24.51 | ranix | fenhir: nonsense |
| 18:24.59 | fenhir | why nonsense? |
| 18:25.03 | ranix | why not |
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| 18:25.27 | fenhir | the mouse is not worling.. i need mouse-control... so what would be your solution? |
| 18:25.36 | Dassu | Is there a way to force eth0 names according to something unique to the hardware. I'm quite tired of seeing ethX getting |
| 18:25.38 | ranix | fenhir: fix xorg.conf |
| 18:25.42 | abrotman | did you try a blank xorg.conf yet? |
| 18:25.44 | Dassu | "wrong X values" |
| 18:25.52 | ranix | fenhir: can you cat /dev/input/mice and move your mouse around for me and tell me what happens |
| 18:25.52 | abrotman | !z25 |
| 18:25.53 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1 the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 18:26.00 | fenhir | ranix: it doesent work! |
| 18:26.08 | abrotman | !serial mouse |
| 18:26.17 | abrotman | seems to recall something about setserial |
| 18:26.20 | Dassu | I end up gettin gunconnectability ... it is really really pain to fix since I have strict firewall rules |
| 18:26.25 | fenhir | ranix: nothing happens.. the same with /dev/ttyS0 and ttyS1^ |
| 18:26.42 | ranix | fenhir: is it a ps2 mouse or a serial mouse |
| 18:26.46 | ranix | fenhir: or a usb mouse |
| 18:26.49 | fenhir | both tried |
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| 18:27.05 | fenhir | on native serial mouse on serial port 1 |
| 18:27.19 | ranix | fenhir: can you put the ps2 mouse in, check dmesg for recognizance, and then cat /dev/psaux and move the mouse around |
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| 18:27.24 | fenhir | one ps2-mouse with ps2-to-serial-adapter on the same port |
| 18:28.21 | fenhir | it doesent show up on /dev/psaux... becouse it is connected to ttyS0 |
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| 18:28.36 | fenhir | because of the adapter |
| 18:28.59 | adb | adapter ? |
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| 18:29.25 | fenhir | ps/2 famale... to serial-male |
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| 18:29.52 | ranix | fenhir: plug your ps2 mouse into the ps2 port |
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| 18:30.03 | fenhir | there is no ps2-port |
| 18:30.07 | fenhir | and no usb btw |
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| 18:30.20 | ranix | fenhir: I'm beginning to see your problem |
| 18:30.28 | fenhir | nice ^^ |
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| 18:31.07 | adb | fenhir: it's what as hardware ? |
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| 18:31.30 | fenhir | one thing i can try befor i buy a usb-pci-board... a connect an old modem to ttyS0 and will see if it is working.. if not.. its the port |
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| 18:32.14 | luckylucy | how can i get rid of this error when trying route add: SIOCADDRT: No such process |
| 18:32.23 | fenhir | err.. no its not the port... bacause zthe mouse is working with bartPE... then it is debian and ubuntu which are not working |
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| 18:33.03 | ranix | fenhir: serial port mice are a rarity these days, you will need a variant of old setserial iirc |
| 18:33.14 | ranix | fenhir: you will want to google for serial port mouse debian or similar |
| 18:33.25 | ranix | fenhir: it will not work without at least some minor configuration |
| 18:33.25 | adama__ | luckylucy: your route add command is wrong. let's see it? |
| 18:33.46 | fenhir | adb: 1: "MS intellimouse 1.1a ps/2" 2:MS serial mouse 2.1a! |
| 18:34.10 | luckylucy | route add -net 0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.3.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:34.11 | adb | i meant the pc ... |
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| 18:35.05 | luckylucy | i am just trying to add the second line i need in the route table to make it like the working one |
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| 18:36.07 | fenhir | so its ok... i give up... thats why i want to know how i connect with vnc to a XFCE-session now... any hint? with Gnome it is doable |
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| 18:36.54 | adb | fenhir: it's what as hardware ? i meant the pc .. |
| 18:37.29 | fenhir | an old K6 III 300 Mhz |
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| 18:38.37 | fenhir | or was that a K6 II? doesnt know now |
| 18:38.44 | fenhir | but 300 Mhz is right |
| 18:39.24 | gusto | I had something like that as a child |
| 18:39.31 | gusto | K6 III 400 MHz |
| 18:39.35 | fenhir | and i HAD it working with a serial mouse and linux a few years ago... but with kernel 2.4 or 2.2 |
| 18:39.42 | luckylucy | adama: is it wrong? |
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| 18:40.18 | adb | give a PII/@450 MHz .2x ps/2 + pxe boot + 2x usb to fenhir |
| 18:40.29 | fenhir | i think the last distribution on it was a DLD (Deutsche Linux Distribution) if someone knows that one ^^ |
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| 18:41.43 | jetpda | why, my p3 550 runs lenny just fine |
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| 18:42.01 | fenhir | i still have an Pentium 130 Mhz with 48 MB RAM as a laptop... which i want to get working again... THIS will be funny ^^ |
| 18:42.13 | adama__ | luckylucy: sorry I was distracted.. |
| 18:42.37 | fenhir | i think... no chance with debian for that |
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| 18:43.02 | fenhir | need tinyX, busybox, and so on for that one |
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| 18:43.05 | luckylucy | adama: i can add a route if i don't put anything but route add -net xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 18:43.18 | adb | fenhir: my server is 120 Mhz . lenny |
| 18:43.22 | luckylucy | adama: the minute i put gw, i get the error |
| 18:43.28 | fenhir | without x |
| 18:43.29 | abrotman | fenhir: i had etch running on a crappier box than that |
| 18:43.31 | fenhir | i think |
| 18:43.32 | abrotman | with X |
| 18:43.46 | adama__ | luckylucy: get rid of the netmask part? |
| 18:43.55 | awalm | what package is /usr/bin/base64 supposed to be in? it appears that it should be in coreutils but its not on my system and i just tried reinstalling coreutils with apt-get --reinstall install ..... |
| 18:44.00 | luckylucy | tried, have to get rid of gw |
| 18:44.04 | luckylucy | for no error. |
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| 18:44.38 | fenhir | oh btw... getting something out if those old machines... anyone experience with SSI-clustering with an 2.6-kernel? |
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| 18:44.56 | adama__ | luckylucy: what about adding dev eth0 on the end (or whatever interface) |
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| 18:45.27 | fenhir | OpenSSI for example? |
| 18:45.44 | luckylucy | adama__: tried with and without, with just eth0, with dev eth0, and with nothing. |
| 18:45.55 | zizzfizzixx | is it possible to install debian from just first CD ? |
| 18:46.03 | adama__ | luckylucy: oh put the word default in: route add default gateway 192.168.X.Y |
| 18:46.33 | adama__ | something like that |
| 18:46.47 | abrotman | zizzfizzixx: it's possibl |
| 18:46.48 | abrotman | e |
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| 18:47.48 | adb | fenhir: i run a cluster on 10x @450 MHz with a modified PelicanHPC |
| 18:47.53 | abrotman | zizzfizzixx: in fact, it's possible (and usually preferred) to do it with the netinst |
| 18:48.06 | zizzfizzixx | abrotman, and i don''t need internet connection during the process? |
| 18:48.14 | luckylucy | adama__: it doesn't help, default gateway or default gw give same error. |
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| 18:48.42 | zizzfizzixx | but internet is the thing here |
| 18:48.42 | zizzfizzixx | i can have connection |
| 18:48.46 | zizzfizzixx | but usb iage of debian can't find my lan card |
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| 18:49.16 | zizzfizzixx | image* |
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| 18:50.39 | luckylucy | adama__: could it be the nic? i am about to re-install debian, and let it do the networking, but dropping a new nic in would be easier |
| 18:50.42 | fenhir | adb: was it easy to do it with a debian-installation... i want those old machines to migrate processes to the newer one |
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| 18:51.00 | adama__ | luckylucy: do you have a route already leading to that host |
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| 18:51.10 | fenhir | transparent... not for special-cluster-programs |
| 18:51.12 | adama__ | luckylucy: wait you have a 0 as the last octet |
| 18:51.29 | adama__ | luckylucy: it is supposed to be the actual IP of the gateway |
| 18:51.44 | adama__ | luckylucy: 0 is the network address, a host cannot have it |
| 18:51.52 | fenhir | oh... and i have attached a modem now on ttyS0... how can i check the connection from debian? |
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| 18:52.25 | luckylucy | adama__: there is one route in the table, values 192.168.3.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:52.35 | luckylucy | this is the same as the other computer too |
| 18:52.41 | abrotman | zizzfizzixx: no you do not .. you'll get a basic system |
| 18:52.42 | luckylucy | but the other one has another entry |
| 18:53.13 | luckylucy | values 0.0.0.0 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 and it works. i want to add this entry to the new computer. |
| 18:53.46 | luckylucy | the address of the nic that is the gw is 192.168.3.0 |
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| 18:54.38 | zizzfizzixx | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 18:54.40 | luckylucy | does that make sense? maybe i don't know the terminology? |
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| 18:55.09 | fenhir | hmmm... echo "atdt5555555" > /dev/ttyS0... does nothing... normaly the modem should at least blink then |
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| 18:55.57 | abrotman | i thought that was your mouse? |
| 18:56.13 | fenhir | wtf... it blinks on ttyS1... NOW i am confused |
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| 18:56.30 | luckylucy | adama__: you were right, does the order that the table is displayed matter? |
| 18:56.34 | fenhir | abrotman: it was the mouse.. for a test i connected a modem now |
| 18:57.06 | fenhir | and it is blinking... exactly when i push that atdt command to ttyS1... so it is not the port |
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| 18:57.45 | tuvwx | doesn't anybody use debtorrent? my debtorrent info page shows 0 uploads! shame.. it would be a great relief of the mirrors |
| 18:57.49 | adama__ | luckylucy: not especially, I don't think... if two lines both match a packet it will look at the metric |
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| 18:58.22 | fenhir | and with "ath0", too... i could have had this idea a BIT further |
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| 18:59.05 | kephra | is there a way (environment variable) to tell debian NOT to start init.d scripts on dselect/apt ? |
| 18:59.13 | fenhir | ok... so the kernel has the port ttyS1.. knows about it.. and can send signals from userspace to it... one step further |
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| 19:00.01 | fenhir | now i just have to say the kernel that there is a mouse on that port |
| 19:00.09 | kephra | the system is an virtuozzo junk ... so I dont have enough memory for apt, if services are running |
| 19:00.12 | fenhir | the question is... how |
| 19:00.32 | luckylucy | yahoo!!!!!! thanks adama__!!!!!! |
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| 19:00.38 | adb | fenhir: change "Device "/dev/ttyS0"" with " Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS1 " " |
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| 19:01.02 | adama__ | luckylucy: enjoy your new tubes :) |
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| 19:02.17 | fenhir | adb: i did that allready... some steps ago... the problem must be between X and the port |
| 19:02.29 | adb | fenhir: paste new xorg.conf |
| 19:02.42 | adb | the* new |
| 19:03.49 | fenhir | holy shit... after i connected the mouse on ttyS1 on the working machine... there is something with cat /dev/ttyS1... ther was just nothing after a fresh boot |
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| 19:04.27 | fenhir | one more step... |
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| 19:06.40 | fenhir | but still nothing with those ps2-mouse and the adapter |
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| 19:09.50 | fenhir | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 19:09.55 | fenhir | and X wit mouse now |
| 19:09.59 | fenhir | with |
| 19:10.49 | fenhir | thanks to all which tried to help me here! |
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| 19:11.55 | fenhir | i still doesnt know, why it is working now... but thats irellevant ^^ |
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| 19:16.15 | Tenkawa | wish I could determine what netbook I want to get as a useable linux workstation |
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| 19:17.53 | Tenkawa | trying to determine if the hp or dell models run debian very wel |
| 19:17.55 | Tenkawa | er well |
| 19:18.08 | Tenkawa | the nics (both wired and wireless) are my concern |
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| 19:19.37 | Akuw | .ogv is a free video format? |
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| 19:20.20 | fenhir | seems so... if you meen ogg-vorbis.video |
| 19:21.17 | Akuw | i am talking about http://itheora.org/?p=demo |
| 19:21.55 | Piet | Tenkawa: if you don't need it right now, wait a little until the new chipsets are out |
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| 19:22.05 | fenhir | ok... next problem... ^^ is it possible to tell grub to boot an .iso on the hdd? |
| 19:22.16 | abrotman | did oyu ask google? |
| 19:22.22 | fenhir | yes |
| 19:22.23 | Piet | Tenkawa: then the new ones will be much better and the current ones much cheaper |
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| 19:22.42 | abrotman | fenhir: then you should have your answer |
| 19:22.45 | valdyn | fenhir: why would you boot a floppy on an iso on a harddisk? thats entirely backwards |
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| 19:23.33 | subopt | Anyone know of a way to make the tcsh prompt replace specified path chunks with chunks of your choosing? |
| 19:23.39 | Tenkawa | Piet: good point |
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| 19:23.55 | Tenkawa | I've got time to wait |
| 19:23.56 | fenhir | what i have found and seems to be understandable for me was on the super-grub-floppy... i saw gub can chainload other bootloaders.. maybe it would bepossible this way |
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| 19:24.29 | valdyn | fenhir: it just does not make sense |
| 19:24.36 | Piet | Tenkawa: if you had not, i'd have suggested looking into the samsung nc20, though that's not cheap |
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| 19:24.51 | Tenkawa | I'm thinking 2-3 months from now |
| 19:25.16 | fenhir | valdyn: i have a few tool, live and rescue-cds... i dont want to burn them all to cds to thest them on this hardware.. so a solution, which boots a .iso from harddisk would be nice |
| 19:25.45 | valdyn | fenhir: thats not going to fix that those tools do try to read data from the actual cdrom |
| 19:25.49 | module000 | fenhir: use usb sticks? |
| 19:26.18 | valdyn | fenhir: after booting the floppy image they will try to boot the cdrom |
| 19:26.25 | valdyn | fenhir: after booting the floppy image they will try to *mount* the cdrom |
| 19:27.04 | fenhir | maybe somway omulation the cd to an iso... grub can swap harddrives...maybe there is some hidden solution |
| 19:27.19 | valdyn | fenhir: thats beyond the scope of a boot manager |
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| 19:27.46 | fenhir | ther even is one who can boot from usb with its own driver, when bios doesnt do it |
| 19:28.06 | mfdavid | hi all. Is there a way to watch you tube videos under framebuffer? (no X.org) |
| 19:28.13 | Piet | Tenkawa: one of the amazing things about the nc20 is that coreboot is probably going to run on them in the near future: http://www.coreboot.org/Laptop |
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| 19:28.24 | ranix | hey folks, I'm having an odd problem. Debootstrap is giving me a "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/tempdisk mount -t proc proc /proc" |
| 19:28.25 | valdyn | mfdavid: sure, but whats the point in this inferior solution? |
| 19:28.47 | Piet | Tenkawa: i think that the first or one of the first laptop chipsets they'll support |
| 19:28.51 | mfdavid | valdyn: fun :-) |
| 19:28.58 | ranix | I see on Google a lot of Ubuntu people are having this problem too, recently, and Sid users |
| 19:29.07 | valdyn | youtube-dl some.url, mplayer movie |
| 19:29.10 | ranix | I don't really know where to start to fix that |
| 19:29.20 | Tenkawa | Piet: intersting |
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| 19:29.29 | valdyn | mfdavid: mplayer will probably need root |
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| 19:30.08 | mfdavid | valdyn: right. |
| 19:30.10 | valdyn | ranix: are you trying to bootstrap sid? |
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| 19:32.30 | ranix | valdyn: trying to bootstrap amd64 Lenny from current x86 Lenny |
| 19:33.13 | valdyn | ranix: that cant work |
| 19:33.27 | valdyn | ranix: unless your x86 lenny has an amd64 kernel |
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| 19:34.19 | ranix | valdyn: I have previously bootstrapped for arm from x86 |
| 19:34.25 | [gloom] | hi there |
| 19:34.42 | ranix | valdyn: are you sure it's impossible? If so, do you know what the difference is compared to arm? |
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| 19:34.53 | valdyn | ranix: well, the bootstrapping part can work, but youre at running some command in that new system |
| 19:34.57 | [gloom] | is there any way to create an image of an ext4 partition? Partimage seems not to support ext4 yet... Any idea? |
| 19:35.00 | maligor | bootstrapping cross-arch is painful and ugly :P |
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| 19:35.11 | valdyn | ranix: and that part cannot work |
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| 19:36.25 | valdyn | [gloom]: dd |
| 19:36.37 | valdyn | [gloom]: better yet, dump, if it supports ext4 already |
| 19:37.41 | [gloom] | yeah, i was thinking about dd. Used it long time ago, but it would be great to know if there's any app partimage like. |
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| 19:39.27 | MikeH | Can anyone point me towards a guide on securing debian? |
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| 19:40.02 | Alex_Norton | www.YouFastPorn.com - Free,Fast,Safe & NO ADV..NO-PROFIT !!! |
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| 19:40.40 | adama__ | damn italians |
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| 19:41.42 | dondelelcaro | MikeH: in general it's fairly secure from the initial install, assuming you're not installing stuff that you don't actually need |
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| 19:45.45 | abrotman | !harden |
| 19:45.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, harden is D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 19:46.38 | [gloom] | valdyn: have you ever restored a big partition image successfully using dd? |
| 19:46.41 | adama__ | !wtf D:SbD |
| 19:46.43 | dpkg | usage: wtf <foo>. |
| 19:46.57 | valdyn | [gloom]: sure |
| 19:47.00 | xingu | abrotman: from the first link - "feauters" :) |
| 19:47.10 | abrotman | xingu: i'm not a spell check! |
| 19:47.13 | valdyn | [gloom]: have you looked at dump? |
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| 19:47.33 | [gloom] | valdyn: I'm on it |
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| 19:49.08 | el_critter | on a multipath routing scheme, routing always happens through the first available "nexthop". Weight doesn't seems to affect this behaviour. Any clues? |
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| 19:52.10 | [gloom] | valdyn: can't find info about dump. But this seems to be a pretty good guide: http://www.linuxweblog.com/dd-image. |
| 19:52.19 | valdyn | [gloom]: dumpe2fs |
| 19:52.36 | ranix | http://surf.ap.seikei.ac.jp/~nakano/dump-restore/dump-restore-mini-HOWTO.en.html |
| 19:52.40 | ranix | dump^ |
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| 19:57.26 | [gloom] | ranix: do you know if dump works fine with ext4? |
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| 19:59.10 | xingu | el_critter: http://www.ssi.bg/~ja/#routes |
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| 20:00.33 | el_critter | xingu: do you have experience with that patch? |
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| 20:00.58 | xingu | el_critter: not directly, but for a while there the maintainer had the _only_ credible working setup of multipath _at all_ |
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| 20:01.34 | xingu | el_critter: for a long while there linux's route cache used to return shall we say "interesting" results on smp += IP_ROUTE_MULTIPATH |
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| 20:03.49 | el_critter | xingu: I need to do loadbalance/failover to ISP links (outside balancing) and I'm kinda stuck. I tried that patch, using it right now in fact, but I'm getting deterministic behaviour instead of random distribution. Everything goes always through the first "nexthop" gateway. |
| 20:04.12 | yoyo | ok |
| 20:04.52 | xingu | el_critter: that'd be the behaviour I'd expect; you're fighting the route cache |
| 20:05.42 | yoyo | X |
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| 20:05.54 | xingu | el_critter: do your test results vary if you drop the default route momentarily and install specific routes? |
| 20:06.20 | el_critter | xingu: let me check |
| 20:06.28 | el_critter | but I'm flushing the cache |
| 20:06.36 | el_critter | xingu: but I'm flushing the cache |
| 20:07.01 | xingu | el_critter: hmm |
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| 20:07.17 | xingu | el_critter: love to stick about and work through this but dinner beckons... |
| 20:07.34 | xingu | el_critter: linux-netdev might be worth a quick email |
| 20:07.42 | el_critter | xingu: thanks for your time |
| 20:07.47 | el_critter | ok thanks! |
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| 20:08.51 | ranix | what |
| 20:09.07 | ranix | sorry [gloom] I just got a vomitous screen full of kernel i/o errors |
| 20:09.22 | ranix | [gloom]: dump should work just fine with ext4 |
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| 20:09.49 | Kuifje111 | hello there. |
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| 20:10.21 | Kuifje111 | how do i configure debian to automatically turn off it's HDDs when they have not been used for an x period of time? |
| 20:10.27 | stew | !phillysmite Philadelphia |
| 20:10.28 | dpkg | obliterates Philadelphia with the Liberty Bell |
| 20:10.39 | valdyn | Kuifje111: install laptop-mode-tools |
| 20:10.40 | ranix | [gloom]: dump uses libext2fs, so anything libext2fs supports will be covered by dump |
| 20:11.26 | Kuifje111 | thanks valdyn. |
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| 20:11.47 | ranix | [gloom]: but there appears to be some controversy on usenet about that. Let me know how you make out I guess |
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| 20:14.43 | valdyn | Kuifje111: you can easily break your non-laptop harddisk within a year if you turn it off when its unused |
| 20:15.01 | Kuifje111 | how is that? |
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| 20:15.18 | Kuifje111 | i also turn of my HDDs after one hour of no usage on my desktop PC |
| 20:15.26 | valdyn | Kuifje111: they're not manufactured for it |
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| 20:15.37 | valdyn | Kuifje111: one hour is probably not to dangerous |
| 20:15.46 | valdyn | Kuifje111: 20 seconds is |
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| 20:16.05 | Kuifje111 | so you say i should rather not let them turn them on and off rather than letting them on? |
| 20:16.10 | valdyn | Kuifje111: im just quoting what the laptop mode tools developer sais |
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| 20:16.23 | Kuifje111 | i see. |
| 20:16.28 | Kuifje111 | it is for a server though |
| 20:16.34 | valdyn | Kuifje111: you should not have 10k up and down per year |
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| 20:16.56 | valdyn | Kuifje111: that is why im saying that one hour is probably fine for a long time |
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| 20:18.43 | valdyn | Kuifje111: read http://www.samwel.tk/laptop_mode/faq |
| 20:19.17 | bstronga | exit |
| 20:19.38 | Kuifje111 | thanks for the information, I was not aware of it |
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| 20:20.15 | MikeH | hrm |
| 20:20.21 | surfdue | possible to connect to a windows vpn via terminal ? |
| 20:20.23 | bstronga | dir |
| 20:20.26 | bstronga | quit |
| 20:20.28 | bstronga | clear |
| 20:20.33 | bstronga | end |
| 20:20.35 | bstronga | quit |
| 20:20.35 | valdyn | for some funny reason windows7 seems to spin down by default and may consequently break disks |
| 20:20.36 | bstronga | :D |
| 20:20.40 | MikeH | I want to recursively search all files with a certain extension for a term, and return which files this term is present in. |
| 20:20.41 | valdyn | i dunno |
| 20:20.44 | MikeH | How can I do this |
| 20:20.47 | greycat | bstronga: /exit |
| 20:21.09 | greycat | (or /quit or... well, that worked apparently) |
| 20:21.45 | valdyn | MikeH: find / -name "*.txt" -exec grep term '{}' ';' |
| 20:22.06 | valdyn | MikeH: if those files have no whitespaces |
| 20:22.08 | greycat | valdyn: you'll probably want grep -l there |
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| 20:22.23 | greycat | valdyn: your command is perfectly fine for files with whitespace in them |
| 20:22.38 | valdyn | neat |
| 20:22.54 | greycat | just add the grep -l so you get the filename as output |
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| 20:29.32 | bookmark | sup yalls |
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| 20:30.43 | bookmark | i'm trying to find out how to specify the window mangaer for x windows |
| 20:30.56 | bookmark | i chose not to install a desktop |
| 20:31.01 | greycat | bookmark: depends on how you run X. For most of us, it'll be ~/.xsession |
| 20:31.18 | bookmark | ~ being my home? |
| 20:31.21 | greycat | yes |
| 20:31.35 | greycat | ~/.xsession is for startx or xdm. |
| 20:31.36 | apt | ...but /.xsession is already something else... |
| 20:31.36 | bookmark | ok so i try exec evilwm? |
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| 20:32.36 | bookmark | it seems like my ssytem doesn't have an XF86Config-4 |
| 20:32.41 | bookmark | or 5 or whatever it is now |
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| 20:33.46 | bookmark | and i can't find the xf86config package |
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| 20:33.58 | bookmark | is there some way i can tell if that is in some other program? |
| 20:33.59 | themill | bookmark: has it been a while since you've used linux? |
| 20:34.04 | bookmark | haha yep |
| 20:34.13 | bookmark | well actually |
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| 20:34.22 | themill | !xorg |
| 20:34.22 | dpkg | X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.4. Ask me about <install x> if you are using etch or later. Ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg , http://wiki.x.org/ , #xorg @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:34.26 | bookmark | i had this installed with evilwm justa year ago |
| 20:34.32 | bookmark | but then i wiped it again |
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| 20:34.51 | bookmark | I didn't set it up from scratch though |
| 20:34.51 | valdyn | bookmark: its xorg.conf, and you should not need it at all |
| 20:35.11 | abrotman | you're being trolled |
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| 20:40.16 | bookmark | is there some program for setting up my xorg.conf? |
| 20:40.35 | bookmark | like the old xf86config program |
| 20:40.46 | patrikf | bookmark: you don't need an xorg.conf with recent X |
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| 20:42.28 | unomi | bookmark not really |
| 20:42.34 | patrikf | bookmark: if you need one anyway for whatever reason, X -configure |
| 20:42.35 | unomi | not that I could find |
| 20:42.38 | bookmark | patrikf, x was starting up a few moments ago, then i installed someting and it stops. Now in the text that I see on the screen when it fails it says: using config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then says NV failed on the next line |
| 20:43.02 | unomi | you could try to move the xorg.conf out of the way |
| 20:43.35 | unomi | did you install new nvidia drivers? |
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| 20:44.51 | bookmark | maybe i should just download evilwm and compile it myself with the writers directions |
| 20:45.22 | bookmark | it just seemed strange to me than when i apt-get a window manager it broke x |
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| 20:45.50 | unomi | yeah that doesn't sound right |
| 20:45.52 | bookmark | ill reinstll and backup my xorg.conf this time |
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| 20:45.59 | bookmark | or.... any other bright ideas? |
| 20:46.01 | unomi | well, you dont need it |
| 20:46.09 | bookmark | well how can i get x working again |
| 20:46.10 | unomi | just rename it |
| 20:46.15 | unomi | and startx |
| 20:46.22 | bookmark | i tried that already x still failed |
| 20:46.22 | unomi | it doesnt need to be there |
| 20:46.27 | bookmark | ah |
| 20:47.12 | bookmark | oh shit you know |
| 20:47.14 | bookmark | ill brb |
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| 20:50.21 | greycat | I renamed my xorg.conf, and X wanted to read my old XF86Config-4 file, so then I had to rename that one too. |
| 20:50.53 | MichelFX | Hello, somebody know where I can upload a archive to download with wget? |
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| 20:51.54 | Kuifje111 | ftp://ftp.iae.nl/100MB.bin |
| 20:52.00 | herrfuhrer | so |
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| 20:54.29 | bookmark | hello |
| 20:54.37 | bookmark | so yeah i'm back in x |
| 20:54.40 | bookmark | was i just in here? |
| 20:54.54 | bookmark | i rebooted or whatever |
| 20:55.26 | bookmark | there are a lot of users here |
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| 20:56.33 | bookmark | I have a new problem: bookmark@spitfire:/etc/X11$ screen |
| 20:56.33 | bookmark | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. |
| 20:57.52 | jelly-home | bookmark: is /dev/pts/0 owned by that user? |
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| 20:58.23 | bookmark | i guess not |
| 20:58.29 | jelly-home | bookmark: don't guess |
| 20:58.34 | digii | isnt there a package named 'server-bridge' in rep in debian? |
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| 20:58.48 | jelly-home | bookmark: ls -l /dev/pts/0 `which screen` |
| 20:58.58 | bookmark | could i do it as well it works as root |
| 20:59.05 | bookmark | so that is good on your part |
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| 21:00.02 | bookmark_ | ok now i'm all straightened out |
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| 21:01.43 | bookmark_ | so......... ah ok... so it appears that x is just on ctrl+f7 all the time |
| 21:02.00 | bookmark_ | and a console on a ctrl+f1 |
| 21:02.09 | bookmark_ | can't i like drop out of x anymore? |
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| 21:05.44 | bookmark_ | if i didn't want all of these ttys how could i annhialate them? |
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| 21:06.57 | adb | bookmark_: use windows |
| 21:07.20 | bookmark_ | i'm just trying to get a system that is as responsive as my old one |
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| 21:07.32 | bookmark_ | but then again my old one was a atx and not a notebook |
| 21:07.36 | jelly-home | bookmark_: how much RAM does it have? |
| 21:07.39 | bookmark_ | 2 gigs |
| 21:07.49 | stew | bookmark_: ctrl-alt-f1 would get you out of x and into a console |
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| 21:08.14 | bookmark_ | thats what i meant to say |
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| 21:08.23 | jelly-home | bookmark_: idle console VTs don't use any relevant resources |
| 21:08.30 | stew | bookmark_: you COULD get rid of some of the consoles by editing /etc/inittab, but there isn't a good reason to. removing them wouldn't make a noticable difference |
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| 21:08.55 | bookmark_ | k |
| 21:09.02 | bookmark_ | i guess the first thing i need is nv drivers |
| 21:09.34 | oobe | if i say "cunt fuck shit poo arse wank saggy bum poo shit fuck arse cuntfuck poo wank" in the channel will i get banned? |
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| 21:10.15 | oobe | guess not |
| 21:10.18 | stew | oobe: you will get banned if you continue to be off-topic |
| 21:10.29 | stew | oobe: this channel is for end-user support of debian only |
| 21:10.36 | oobe | ok |
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| 21:10.59 | oobe | so swearing is ok as long as its debian related |
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| 21:11.23 | stew | oobe: if you have a debian related question, please ask it, otherwise just keep quiet |
| 21:11.51 | jelly-home | stew: hey, does judd's dbugs equivalent work? |
| 21:12.10 | oobe | like if i apt-get install cuntfucker and it says "E: Couldn't find package cuntfucker" then that is ok to say |
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| 21:12.22 | jelly-home | had issues with it a few days ago |
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| 21:13.13 | themill | oobe: please stop, it got boring about 5 minutes ago. |
| 21:13.24 | jelly-home | yhbt. |
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| 21:15.48 | bookmark | yo |
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| 21:16.13 | bookmark | hey can i just copy some directory off my debian cd onto my harddrive so it doesn't always ask for the disk? |
| 21:16.19 | bookmark | like archive or something |
| 21:16.31 | dondelelcaro | bookmark: yes, or you could just use the internet |
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| 21:16.44 | jelly-home | judd: bug 433624 |
| 21:16.46 | bookmark | just remove the reference to it in my sources |
| 21:16.54 | dondelelcaro | bookmark: right, and run apt-get update; |
| 21:16.59 | bookmark | kz |
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| 21:18.15 | shifty | hi all, is there a max amount of harddisks i can put in a debian system? ... i recently installed a new one and now i cant mount 3 old harddisks ... :/ |
| 21:19.09 | Kuifje111 | i dont think so |
| 21:19.14 | azeem | shifty: it's either a BIOS problem, or something else |
| 21:19.20 | shifty | strange |
| 21:19.20 | Kuifje111 | you are limitted by the amount of ports on your motherboard |
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| 21:19.38 | shifty | hmm |
| 21:20.36 | shifty | im confused :/ ... i cant explain the failing of the harddisks ... i get: EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock |
| 21:20.38 | g00se | shifty: Do they show in your bios? |
| 21:21.03 | shifty | but on diffrent harddisks ... two 120gb (old one) and a 500gb western digital (pretty new) |
| 21:21.12 | shifty | yes they do |
| 21:21.27 | shifty | the bios recognizes them but i cant mount them anymore :( |
| 21:21.52 | g00se | shifty: check them with fdisk first perhaps |
| 21:21.53 | adb | are ntfs/win hdd ? |
| 21:22.00 | shifty | end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 65 ... same sector on every hd :/ |
| 21:22.07 | shifty | no all ext3 |
| 21:22.53 | bookmark | so anyway i'm running nvidia driver and now it tells me to shut down x to run them |
| 21:23.03 | bookmark | lol, i was just asking how does someone do that |
| 21:23.18 | shifty | fdisk -l shows nothing |
| 21:23.22 | shifty | but hdparm -i does |
| 21:23.38 | digii | hmm, if im installing openvpn on a server using one nic, and bridge it to my eth0, does eth0 hafto have a static IP? |
| 21:23.40 | jelly-home | bookmark: are you trying to use nvidia's own driver installer? |
| 21:23.47 | digii | or can it still run dhcp |
| 21:23.47 | digii | ? |
| 21:24.05 | bookmark | jelly-home, well i was praying it would work |
| 21:24.10 | bookmark | yes i am |
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| 21:25.25 | jpinx-eeepc | I have a partition on ntfs and not enough room to copy it out and change the filesystem. Can I change it in-situ? |
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| 21:26.01 | bookmark | is that latin? |
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| 21:30.46 | oobe | jpinx-eeepc, try using tar cvjf /ntfs/mount/point . |
| 21:31.07 | oobe | im basically saying try archiving the drive using compression |
| 21:31.14 | oobe | the formating and unpacking it |
| 21:31.18 | oobe | back |
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| 21:33.02 | bookmark | how do i detatch screen ctrl+shift x r? |
| 21:33.06 | bookmark | something like that? |
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| 21:33.30 | bookmark | alt+ctrl x r? |
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| 21:33.58 | oobe | do you mean switch to a new tty |
| 21:34.11 | bookmark | well i just connected to screen |
| 21:34.22 | bookmark | and now i want to leave it back to where i was |
| 21:34.28 | oobe | ctl alt f1 and ctl alt f7 to get back to x |
| 21:34.41 | bookmark | i killed x |
| 21:34.42 | bookmark | hehe |
| 21:34.51 | bookmark | ./xdm sto |
| 21:34.52 | bookmark | ./xdm stop |
| 21:34.54 | beardy | bookmark: ^a d |
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| 21:35.12 | maximi89 | hi ppl! |
| 21:35.14 | bookmark | hello |
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| 21:35.37 | bookmark | there it is |
| 21:35.39 | maximi89 | hey! who know a way get the hibernate working properly |
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| 21:35.44 | bookmark | alt+ctrl a d |
| 21:35.48 | bookmark | got it thanks |
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| 21:38.10 | maximi89 | i mean when i hibernate, my machine make the resume image and later they dont poweroff |
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| 21:39.13 | maximi89 | stay on... after the resume... |
| 21:39.35 | jpinx-eeepc | oobe: ok - so I archive and compress the whole lot - I still don't have room to move it off while I create the new fs :-/ |
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| 21:40.26 | jpinx-eeepc | oobe: though you idea has merit - maybe I can do it in sections;) |
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| 21:43.40 | maximi89 | lol |
| 21:44.04 | maximi89 | Linksys reboot all the time |
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| 21:48.57 | sobersabre | hi guys, does anybody know if dell laptops work well with e-port under debian ? |
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| 21:49.30 | bsmntbombdood | hello |
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| 21:49.35 | sobersabre | e port is the dell's version of "port replicator", but it's usb based. |
| 21:49.49 | bsmntbombdood | i am trying to install debian, the network configuration is failing |
| 21:50.09 | bsmntbombdood | it says "dhcp configuration succeeded", but then it tells me the network step failed |
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| 21:50.47 | Supaplex | bsmntbombdood: check tty4 to see why. alt+f4 |
| 21:51.58 | bsmntbombdood | i see the dhcp succeeding, then "netcf failed with error code 139" |
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| 21:52.26 | bsmntbombdood | *netcfg |
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| 21:56.52 | bsmntbombdood | anyone? |
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| 22:00.21 | adb | bug #520442 ? |
| 22:00.47 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | is there a bluetooth browser for lxde or any WM? |
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| 22:01.35 | bsmntbombdood | adb: yes |
| 22:01.44 | adb | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520442 |
| 22:01.51 | maximi89 | adb: what about that error? |
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| 22:02.15 | adb | maximi89: that== ? |
| 22:02.25 | maximi89 | ok |
| 22:02.33 | maximi89 | o going to see |
| 22:02.56 | bsmntbombdood | i don't see a workaround |
| 22:03.38 | adb | I can confirm that unpacking libnss-* 2.9 udebs manually in the booted installer |
| 22:03.38 | adb | removes the segfault. |
| 22:03.56 | bsmntbombdood | how do i do that? |
| 22:04.11 | adb | manually ... |
| 22:04.43 | bsmntbombdood | ... |
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| 22:05.22 | adb | alt F2 , chroot target , |
| 22:06.04 | maximi89 | adb: he can't use internet? |
| 22:06.40 | adb | use usb stick to carry that package |
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| 22:09.49 | mustu | why i don't see xinet.d directory in my /etc |
| 22:10.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps because there is none |
| 22:10.37 | mustu | isn't it installed by default on all distros? |
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| 22:11.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | installit! |
| 22:11.03 | sobersabre | repeating: has anybody used dell's "advanced e port" with their dell laptop ? |
| 22:11.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell mustu -about search |
| 22:11.27 | adb | bsmntbombdood: fix your debian-installer whit a live system |
| 22:11.47 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.49 | abrotman | mustu: no |
| 22:11.58 | Supaplex | sobersabre: what exactly is that? |
| 22:12.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | mustu, there's a package, but it's not in the base install |
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| 22:12.35 | yoda__ | hi to everybody |
| 22:12.51 | yoda__ | Does anyone know LICHENE ? |
| 22:13.06 | mustu | CutMeOwnThroat: that's what i want to know does. is it in base install or not.. i was expecting it to be.. |
| 22:13.12 | bsmntbombdood | adb: doesn't mean anything to me |
| 22:13.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, do you need a third "no"? |
| 22:14.07 | Firestarter- | when setting up a dialup server to share internet with a client should the ms-dns setting be set to the nameserver of the servers internet provider or and ip on the server. |
| 22:14.15 | adb | bsmntbombdood: boot a livecd and enter with chroot in partition where is/was installed debian |
| 22:15.18 | adb | install libnss-* 2.9 udebs manually |
| 22:15.47 | abrotman | mustu: i told you no |
| 22:16.14 | abrotman | mustu: xinetd is optional ; the default is openbsd-inetd |
| 22:17.05 | abrotman | dpkg: info xinetd lenny |
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| 22:17.44 | dpkg | xinetd: (replacement for inetd with many enhancements), section net, is extra. Version: 1:2.3.14-7 (lenny), Packaged size: 132 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
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| 22:18.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | that actually looks kind of nice |
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| 22:18.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably less secure, though |
| 22:19.14 | bsmntbombdood | this is a pretty shitty bug |
| 22:19.20 | ktlr | how can i speed up my debian system, because i tried ubuntu, and i have to say ubuntu twice faster than my debian, but it isnt stable unfortunately |
| 22:19.26 | yoda__ | hi to everybody |
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| 22:19.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | your system MOVES? |
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| 22:20.46 | centrx | ktlr, You may be using kernels optimized for different processors |
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| 22:21.08 | centrx | ktlr, You may have installed a bunch of extra services in Debian, that you were not installed in Ubuntu |
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| 22:21.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | or it might be a 100 other things :) |
| 22:23.11 | ktlr | i have installed a standard system with kde 3.5 and i am using a standard kernel (i686 latest version) to my system |
| 22:23.25 | ktlr | kernel image |
| 22:23.41 | jpinx-eeepc | is there any way to resize a partition with an ntfs without data loss from lenny? |
| 22:24.04 | adb | bsmntbombdood: try that image > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-500-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 22:24.20 | ktlr | jpinx-eeepc, did you try gparted ? |
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| 22:24.49 | jpinx-eeepc | looks at qparted |
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| 22:25.41 | bsmntbombdood | "error processing /mnt/libnss-dns-udep: trying to overwrite /lib/libnss-dns-2.9.so, which is also in package libc6" |
| 22:26.32 | bsmntbombdood | from dpkg -i |
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| 22:27.02 | jpinx-eeepc | ktlr: that's just parted for gnome - I've looked at that and fdisk and cfdisk but none resize, only "chop" |
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| 22:28.02 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm looking for a function similar to defrag for ntfs but in debian |
| 22:28.19 | ktlr | then use norton partition magic |
| 22:28.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, look if it's busy with top / iotop |
| 22:28.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 22:28.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | ktlr, |
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| 22:28.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | ^^^ |
| 22:29.00 | centrx | ktlr, Is it because you are using KDE instaed of Gnome? |
| 22:29.22 | centrx | ktlr, Use top to see what is taking up space, look through your process list and uninstall services you aren't using |
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| 22:29.27 | centrx | taking up processing |
| 22:29.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | centrx, you're aware that the orignial question doesn't contain any useful information whatsoever? :) |
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| 22:31.54 | Krystal``` | Can someone tell me how can I reset my root password. |
| 22:31.59 | bsmntbombdood | ... |
| 22:32.24 | adb | Krystal```: passwd, as root |
| 22:32.37 | SamB | Krystal```: you need to boot some kind of rescue disk ... |
| 22:32.43 | centrx | if you've lost it that is |
| 22:32.47 | Krystal``` | bs |
| 22:32.50 | Krystal``` | I have* |
| 22:32.57 | Krystal``` | bsmntbombdood: is there a problem? |
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| 22:33.21 | bsmntbombdood | adb: what does this error mean? |
| 22:33.30 | abrotman | !tell Krystal``` about ifrp |
| 22:33.31 | galen | any ideas on why debian 5.01 won't grab my NIC automatically at boot? |
| 22:33.40 | galen | i seem to have to grouse about to make it grab a DHCP lease |
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| 22:33.49 | jpinx-eeepc | answering my own question - use ntfsprogs :) |
| 22:34.07 | galen | oddly it says "the platform you are running is not supported by this tool" when i open system -> admin -> networ |
| 22:34.10 | abrotman | galen: is it set to auto in your interfaces file ? |
| 22:34.15 | adb | bsmntbombdood: your installer is in bad state |
| 22:34.40 | bsmntbombdood | obviously |
| 22:34.46 | galen | abrotman: where is that? |
| 22:34.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh, what is 224.0.0.251? |
| 22:34.51 | CarlosSlack | legal |
| 22:35.03 | abrotman | galen: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:35.05 | adb | bsmntbombdood: so use the image i told you |
| 22:35.05 | CarlosSlack | alguem do brasil ai ? |
| 22:35.09 | abrotman | !br |
| 22:35.10 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:35.18 | CarlosSlack | legal |
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| 22:35.36 | bsmntbombdood | the image? |
| 22:35.38 | yoda__ | Falo Português |
| 22:35.46 | adb | read up |
| 22:35.52 | yoda__ | Brasil? |
| 22:36.01 | nkuttler | !pt |
| 22:36.02 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 22:36.06 | CarlosSlack | a legal |
| 22:36.07 | yoda__ | carlos como você está fazendo? |
| 22:36.11 | abrotman | CarlosSlack: english please |
| 22:36.18 | abrotman | yoda__: speak english here |
| 22:36.20 | galen | abrotman: eth0 is set to allow-hotplug at the moment |
| 22:36.26 | CarlosSlack | acabo de acessar a rede |
| 22:36.34 | CarlosSlack | nao costumava usar o chat |
| 22:36.35 | abrotman | CarlosSlack: go to #debian-br |
| 22:36.51 | ktlr | centrx, there isnt any process what would eat my cpu, but my system is slowly, i tryed a packages at debian-desktop.org, then my system was faster than before. |
| 22:36.53 | CarlosSlack | blz vou mudar de canal |
| 22:36.57 | abrotman | CarlosSlack: go to #debian-br |
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| 22:37.10 | adb | bsmntbombdood: well .iso are an image ... |
| 22:37.11 | yoda__ | ok abrotman |
| 22:37.12 | centrx | KDE Is very slow, I don't know |
| 22:37.13 | yoda__ | sorry |
| 22:37.14 | yoda__ | :$ |
| 22:37.31 | SamB | centrx: how many bogomips do you have ? |
| 22:37.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.40 | abrotman | no! |
| 22:37.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | err babel? |
| 22:37.55 | nkuttler | i think you mean babel, not babylon |
| 22:38.26 | bsmntbombdood | adb: huh? |
| 22:38.28 | adb | bsmntbombdood: found it ? need a repost ? |
| 22:38.30 | yoda__ | #babel ? |
| 22:38.43 | adb | bsmntbombdood: try that image > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/5.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-500-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 22:38.44 | yoda__ | no doesn't exist |
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| 22:38.52 | ktlr | centrx, Anyway, I thank you. |
| 22:39.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | yoda__, they all wandered off in different directions to fill the different channels of the server |
| 22:39.40 | bsmntbombdood | adb: isn't that an old version? |
| 22:39.41 | yoda__ | ah |
| 22:39.45 | SamB | tried #babel-en ? |
| 22:40.13 | yoda__ | doens't exist |
| 22:40.16 | adb | 500 is good |
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| 22:40.27 | adb | 500 is lenny |
| 22:40.30 | yoda__ | hi Gandhi |
| 22:40.47 | bsmntbombdood | adb: i wanted testing |
| 22:41.03 | adb | mograte after install |
| 22:41.08 | adb | migrate* |
| 22:41.11 | abrotman | bsmntbombdood: you can install lenny and then dist-upgrade |
| 22:41.32 | bsmntbombdood | do i have to start the install all over again with this new iso? |
| 22:41.48 | abrotman | which install are you in the middle of? |
| 22:42.04 | bsmntbombdood | what? |
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| 22:42.52 | Supaplex | bsmntbombdood: what do you have installed right now? |
| 22:43.00 | abrotman | you asked if you had to restart the installer .. what's wrong with your current installer? or did you get it installed and there's a problem? |
| 22:43.28 | adb | abrotman: bsmntbombdood fault in #520442 ... |
| 22:43.39 | abrotman | !dbugs 520442 |
| 22:43.43 | dpkg | DONE:#520442:G[debian-installer] amd64 netinst netcfg segfault daily build 03/19/2009 (); Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:21:02 UTC [517231 520711] |
| 22:44.17 | abrotman | says it's been fixed .. |
| 22:44.28 | bsmntbombdood | i downloaded the bad iso yesterday |
| 22:44.35 | abrotman | it's been fixed since march .. |
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| 22:44.43 | bsmntbombdood | obviously not |
| 22:45.06 | abrotman | did you download a daily? |
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| 22:46.12 | bsmntbombdood | no, i downloaded the testing weekly build |
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| 22:46.38 | bsmntbombdood | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 22:46.56 | foetus | is it possible to create an diff similar file of two directories containing source with binaries? diff is not useful in this case, xdelta works only for files.. |
| 22:47.58 | centrx | foetus, loop through each file? might be a 3-line bash script |
| 22:48.05 | abrotman | bsmntbombdood: well, you can try a daily netinst .. or use the lenny netinst and dist-upgrade .. or go ask #debian-boot if its really been fixed |
| 22:48.25 | abrotman | would use lenny and dist-upgrade |
| 22:48.37 | bsmntbombdood | sigh |
| 22:48.49 | foetus | centrx: nah, not really.. |
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| 22:50.01 | adb | bsmntbombdood: lenny is stable , testing is for "other" users |
| 22:50.18 | abrotman | bsmntbombdood: at this point .. i believe the 'testing'installer is still using the same kernel as lenny, so you wouldn't gain anything but a bit of time |
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| 22:51.22 | galen | any ideas how bad an idea it is to apply the 2.6.29-4 configuration file when building the 2.6.30-rc kernel? |
| 22:51.28 | foetus | centrx: maybe, i must xdelta two packed sources then..but it would be nice with open directories.. |
| 22:52.14 | abrotman | foetus: what are you trying to do? |
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| 22:54.00 | foetus | abrotman: it is a downgrade of the last kde-sources against the orig-files from lenny, they are containing bz2 indexes.. |
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| 22:56.03 | yoda__ | bye to everybody |
| 22:56.07 | yoda__ | see next time |
| 22:56.09 | yoda__ | bye bye |
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| 22:57.07 | abrotman | foetus: that didn't really answer my question |
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| 22:57.18 | mustu | can i know by some mean that how much my DNS server is taking to resolve domains? I see slow connection initialization in browsers. |
| 22:57.47 | abrotman | how much what? time? |
| 22:57.59 | mustu | yes |
| 22:58.23 | abrotman | time host www.google.com ? |
| 22:58.33 | mustu | it takes some seconds before connecting to the website... seems domain resolution is taking that time |
| 22:58.53 | foetus | abrotman: it seems to be enough :) |
| 22:58.57 | mustu | means longer duration then normal by "some seconds" |
| 22:59.06 | betz | Hi! could someone say me how i set so that php files get parsed, not downloaded? is it in a .conf file somewhere? |
| 22:59.20 | abrotman | !php wants me to download still |
| 22:59.20 | dpkg | Carefully read and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/php*-common/README.Debian.gz and <install php>; make sure you reloaded apache, cleared your browser cache and restarted your browser. Also verified that it's still a problem outside of your browser using telnet, netcat, wget, GET, curl, etc as the browser caching the download is often a problem. Also have a look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload (Apache 1.x). |
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| 22:59.43 | abrotman | betz: you did install libapache2-mod-php5 right ? |
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| 23:01.12 | foetus | bye. |
| 23:01.41 | mustu | I did manually nslookup for some domains (wordpress.com, linuxpakistan.net) and it took 5 to 7 seconds to resolve. Isn't it late? |
| 23:02.02 | Suzu | hello |
| 23:02.28 | betz | abrotman: yeah |
| 23:02.45 | abrotman | mustu: probably shouldn't take that long |
| 23:03.35 | nkuttler | mustu: sounds like some misconfiguration. check your routing. |
| 23:03.37 | mustu | i want to skip my ISP's DNS . it also goes down sometimes... can u guide me for global DNS server that can spped up my DNS stuff? |
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| 23:04.06 | Supaplex | mustu: install bind, set resolv.conf to nameserver 127.0.0.1 etc. |
| 23:04.16 | nkuttler | mustu: a caching only dns server could be helpful.. |
| 23:04.35 | Supaplex | bind9 will have the rootname servers, and recurse+cache |
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| 23:05.09 | mustu | nkuttler: is it same what Supaplex said above? |
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| 23:07.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | mustu, how many nameservers do you have in resolv.conf? |
| 23:07.35 | mustu | nkuttler: Supaplex: My ISP gave me an ADSL router. So, m behind NAT. How my DNS will cache if my system directs toward itself again? 10.x.x.x on my system... |
| 23:08.36 | mustu | CutMeOwnThroat: Just 1 that's 10.0.0.1 That's the Gateway IP (ADSL Router) . |
| 23:08.45 | Supaplex | mustu: nat shouldn't be breaking that. |
| 23:09.11 | Supaplex | there is a feature of nat that can translate dns addresses in the query as it's traversing nat, but I doubt that feature is available on your router. |
| 23:09.17 | mustu | I beg my ADSL n it then to ISP DNS. |
| 23:09.41 | mischief6 | anyone know of a skype compatible VOIP client? |
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| 23:10.33 | bolt | skype exists for linux |
| 23:10.35 | nkuttler | mustu: is there anyhing besides your dsl router in your routing table? |
| 23:10.36 | mustu | i am also worried because my ISP DNS goes down for hours sometimes n when I call then they tell me to manually enter alternative DNS on my system. So, why don't I skip their poor DNS at all. |
| 23:11.05 | Supaplex | mustu: you don't trust us? |
| 23:11.08 | nkuttler | mischief6: skype is proproietary, so no. afaik the text messaging has been reverse engineered, not the voip |
| 23:11.08 | mischief6 | bolt, but it is proprietary software |
| 23:11.15 | bolt | yep |
| 23:11.31 | mustu | nkuttler: No, just a default gateway. |
| 23:11.43 | mustu | Supaplex: i didn't got. |
| 23:11.46 | nkuttler | mustu: sounds like you need a new isp |
| 23:12.10 | mustu | nkuttler: he he :D . some simple solution plz |
| 23:12.44 | mustu | I was thinking of using a global DNS server but which one...! need some help here |
| 23:13.17 | Supaplex | mustu: you don't need a global dns server. google for 'bind9 caching dns server' (w/o quotes) |
| 23:13.20 | nkuttler | mustu: use any that is open, and use a local caching only bind. pretty easy to set up. if that's the real problem... |
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| 23:14.02 | Supaplex | and it won't depend on dns servers at your isp (only for domains they host) |
| 23:14.12 | mustu | Supaplex: nkuttler: hmm. let me study it.. will be back if got stuck |
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| 23:15.49 | sshc | hi. I accidentally rmd /bin/rm. how do I get it back? |
| 23:16.28 | dondelelcaro | sshc: reinstall coreutils |
| 23:17.13 | sshc | dondelelcaro, thanks. |
| 23:17.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | mustu, there's opendns and a whole bunch of others |
| 23:17.29 | dondelelcaro | sshc: and let that be a lesson to you not to be root |
| 23:17.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | mustu, /msg dpkg opendns |
| 23:17.47 | dondelelcaro | (since rm'ing /bin/rm is one of the least dangerous things you could have done) |
| 23:18.04 | nkuttler | doesn't like opendns |
| 23:18.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps /bin is gone :) |
| 23:18.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, you're not him, though |
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| 23:19.04 | nkuttler | last time i checked they redirected to their own domains when the domain didn't resolve... don't like |
| 23:19.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, you mean you'd prefer a dns that is only up and working every other hour? |
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| 23:20.16 | nkuttler | i like errors when i request something invalid, and my isp's dns works.. |
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| 23:21.02 | oh_noes | Is there such thing as eth0:1 in Deb? (like Solaris) |
| 23:21.10 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: sure |
| 23:21.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure |
| 23:21.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, well, his doesn't and I was answering his question |
| 23:21.30 | dondelelcaro | you don't have to use eth0:1 to add another ip address to eth0, though. |
| 23:21.31 | oh_noes | dondelelcaro: what's it called or how do I use it? |
| 23:21.37 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: it's called eth0:1 |
| 23:21.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | :) |
| 23:21.42 | nkuttler | CutMeOwnThroat: that's why he should switch isp :) |
| 23:22.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, that's up to him... |
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| 23:22.03 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: but if you just want another address, you can use ip addr add 1.2.3.4/XX dev eth0; or whatever is appropriate |
| 23:22.25 | oh_noes | Do I have to plumb it? ifconfig eth0:1 plumb doesnt work |
| 23:22.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | plumb? |
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| 23:22.39 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: no. |
| 23:22.52 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 23:22.53 | nkuttler | oh_noes: ifconfig eth0:1 inet foo up should just work. may be hardware-dependent (?) |
| 23:23.34 | oh_noes | dondelelcaro: well what Im trying to do might not work, but basically ... we have an appliance/ that needs to switch the OS from Static to DHCP |
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| 23:24.04 | oh_noes | so i was thinking/hoping it may be posisble to assign DHCP on eth0:1 and get an IP, then somehow move eth0:1to eth0 after informing the user of the new IP |
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| 23:24.25 | oh_noes | atm we have a problem on our headless server once you change to DHCP it just disappears |
| 23:24.38 | Shadowcat | .... |
| 23:24.49 | Shadowcat | my guess is that it doesn't grab an ip |
| 23:24.57 | sshc | what's the best way to move everything with rm to a safe directory such as /tmp/trash? |
| 23:25.11 | Shadowcat | mv |
| 23:25.15 | sshc | what's the best way to set up rm so that it does that? |
| 23:25.19 | nkuttler | sshc: help alias? |
| 23:25.25 | beardy | sshc: Why? |
| 23:25.38 | galen | i am building the kernel using make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image |
| 23:25.45 | galen | do i need to do anything else? is that building modules? |
| 23:25.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | sshc, there's rm -i |
| 23:26.05 | beardy | sshc: Just don't do stupid things. Don't use rm if you don't want to use rm. |
| 23:26.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | there are no trashbins for rm |
| 23:26.19 | sshc | I've accidentally removed many files from a typo before. usually without root |
| 23:26.21 | edju | running lenny. have nvidia graphics. cannot get a console w/ ctrl-alt-f1, only a black screen - no prompt. ctrl-alt-f7 does get me back. also, cannot get a console log-in from kdm. inittab is the default. where might i start looking to solve this? |
| 23:26.26 | sshc | what's a trashbin program I can use? |
| 23:26.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | mv |
| 23:26.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | sshc, just check before you hit enter? it's a mistake one doesn't repeat often :) |
| 23:27.02 | abrotman | !info libtrash lenny |
| 23:27.27 | dpkg | libtrash: (A trash can library to use with LD_PRELOAD), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.4-2 (lenny), Packaged size: 59 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 23:27.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | eew |
| 23:27.50 | nkuttler | alias rm="rm -iv" is a good start |
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| 23:28.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems libtrash is the thingy |
| 23:28.33 | nkuttler | hm, if i wanted a trashcan i wouldn't use rm |
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| 23:28.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | depends |
| 23:28.49 | sshc | nkutter, what would you use? |
| 23:28.52 | galen | can anybody help with using make-kpkg? |
| 23:28.55 | nkuttler | sshc: mv |
| 23:29.01 | Shadowcat | galen: I suggest you RTFM |
| 23:29.15 | Shadowcat | if you don't know how to compile a kernel you shouldn't be doing it |
| 23:29.24 | abrotman | !custom kernel |
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| 23:29.24 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD". |
| 23:29.24 | jpinx-eeepc | sshc mv to a dir called trash? |
| 23:29.27 | nkuttler | or, actually, ls foobar, then rm -rf foobar |
| 23:29.28 | abrotman | hides |
| 23:29.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | really often I really want stuff gone (i.e. when I NEED the space), on the other hand, a 10 minute delay to an rm would've come handy sometimes .... |
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| 23:29.59 | Shadowcat | drags abrotman out from the rock he's hiding under |
| 23:30.10 | sshc | I don't want to have to manually specify the trach directory each time. I also don't want a confirmation. |
| 23:30.10 | nkuttler | CutMeOwnThroat: isn't that what backups are for? |
| 23:30.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | what backups? |
| 23:30.22 | sshc | is there a well known trash program? |
| 23:30.33 | Shadowcat | omg |
| 23:30.36 | Shadowcat | just alias rm |
| 23:30.41 | Shadowcat | or mv |
| 23:30.43 | Shadowcat | or whatever |
| 23:30.46 | Shadowcat | it's not rocket science |
| 23:30.48 | galen | Shadowcat: that's all well and good until what you expect to work from reading the manual does not. |
| 23:30.50 | nkuttler | hasn't accidentally rm'd anything in... eight years or so |
| 23:31.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | sshc, stop repeating the question after you got an answer that is a perfect match |
| 23:31.20 | bsmntbombdood | del(){ mv $1 /tmp/trash;} |
| 23:31.22 | Shadowcat | nkuttler: so why then were we publically giving you 20 lashes last week for nuking the dns server? :P |
| 23:31.31 | Shadowcat | ;) |
| 23:31.34 | galen | I am getting stuck at this prompt on boot: [ 2.428116] ahci 0000:03:00.0: device not available because of BAR 2 [0x00-0x07] collisions |
| 23:31.43 | nkuttler | Shadowcat: because i'm into pain? |
| 23:31.54 | Shadowcat | galen: that's a module problem |
| 23:31.54 | ranix | lol BAR |
| 23:31.55 | nkuttler | actually, i'm not :) |
| 23:32.01 | hileon | how to recover a deleted file? |
| 23:32.04 | Shadowcat | check your source |
| 23:32.06 | abrotman | !undelete |
| 23:32.07 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
| 23:32.08 | nkuttler | but if you behave i'll give you some |
| 23:32.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | !torture nkuttler |
| 23:32.23 | sshc | Shadowcat, I don't want something as basic as that. if there's already an existing file, I'd want that to be kept and maybe a timestamp. also if I use an alias and 'rm' a directory it moves it into the directory of the trashed dir |
| 23:32.23 | Shadowcat | just forces nkuttler to support WinVista for a while |
| 23:32.23 | dpkg | plucks all nkuttler's finger and toenails out, and dips them in lemon juice until nkuttler talks |
| 23:32.30 | Shadowcat | that should be enough pain for you |
| 23:32.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | Shadowcat, dpkg's more effective than you |
| 23:33.01 | sshc | is there a well known trash program? |
| 23:33.06 | nkuttler | sshc: mv |
| 23:33.11 | Shadowcat | CutMeOwnThroat: I just need to heat up some oil |
| 23:33.13 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 23:33.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | stop repeating |
| 23:33.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman answered you |
| 23:33.32 | jpinx-eeepc | sshc - you've been told several times how to get around the problem |
| 23:33.42 | abrotman | i answered like 10 minutes ago .. but you've all been rambling on and on :) |
| 23:33.46 | Shadowcat | and if you still insist, code your own darn app |
| 23:33.46 | bsmntbombdood | if you even consider it a problem |
| 23:33.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | if what we say isn't good enough for you, then google it |
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| 23:34.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, well, I'm a natural rambler |
| 23:34.34 | bsmntbombdood | write something using ptrace to catch calls to unlink |
| 23:34.40 | bsmntbombdood | and also follow children |
| 23:34.41 | jpinx-eeepc | ramble ramble |
| 23:34.42 | abrotman | lord he was born a rambling man ... |
| 23:34.43 | Shadowcat | sets mode: +quiet CutMeOwnThroat |
| 23:34.49 | abrotman | bsmntbombdood: see libtrash |
| 23:34.55 | Lord | ? |
| 23:35.03 | bsmntbombdood | that actually might be interesting |
| 23:35.05 | ranix | abrotman: that library is trash |
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| 23:35.11 | ranix | abrotman: I wouldn't touch it with a pole |
| 23:35.26 | abrotman | ranix: he asked for it .. not me |
| 23:35.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't know what excuse THE OTHERS have, though :) |
| 23:35.42 | jpinx-eeepc | ranix: what's wrong with the polish ? |
| 23:35.45 | galen | Shadowcat: suggestions in diagnosing the issue would be VERY welcome. I am aware it's a module problem... |
| 23:35.59 | ranix | jpinx-eeepc: libtrash is trash? |
| 23:36.02 | Shadowcat | galen: does this look like #kernel to you? |
| 23:36.05 | bsmntbombdood | looks like you can get around libtrash |
| 23:36.25 | Shadowcat | I really don't see why a broken custom kernel is this channel's problem |
| 23:36.34 | bsmntbombdood | you can't circumvent ptrace |
| 23:36.50 | ranix | I wouldn't want to have to go around picking through the libtrash looking for a function |
| 23:37.11 | dondelelcaro | there is no function |
| 23:37.24 | ranix | no, dondelelcaro, you are the functions |
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| 23:37.45 | dondelelcaro | it just preloads a wrapper around the bits of libc that remove files, and blamo, you have a trash can. |
| 23:38.43 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the syntax for strace to see what port a network process is using? man strace is downright confusing:-/ |
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| 23:38.59 | Supaplex | it use to be called libdiaperpail, but it didn't show enough market share |
| 23:39.09 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: you can just look at the netstat or fuser output |
| 23:39.11 | Supaplex | heh jk |
| 23:39.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | libtrash... really sounds like the unappetizing left-overs of other libraries |
| 23:39.13 | vi390 | is there any way to install python packages without searching the alternative names in apt-cache search. Maybe a special python package management based on apt with the same names as in easy_install |
| 23:39.23 | ranix | and libwastepaperbasket was too long for a sourceforge project name |
| 23:39.28 | vi390 | or maybe some "all in one" package |
| 23:39.31 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: but otherwise, -e trace=network or similar |
| 23:39.36 | jpinx-eeepc | dondelelcaro: ok - I'll try that then |
| 23:40.57 | jpinx-eeepc | -e trace=network doesn't do it dondelelcaro :( |
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| 23:42.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | does! |
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| 23:43.14 | macman_ | hey all i have a complicated question :P |
| 23:43.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | does too, I mean |
| 23:43.48 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: didn't work for me :( |
| 23:43.57 | jpinx-eeepc | tries again |
| 23:44.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | nobody said the output would be readable :) |
| 23:44.14 | abrotman | macman_: just ask |
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| 23:44.25 | macman_ | say sda1 = primary parition (10gigs) sda2 = extended partition (30 gigs) if i made 4 primary paritions inside of sda2 (extended) will this mess up anything ? will i still be able to make more primary paritions out side of sda2 |
| 23:44.32 | macman_ | sorry for grammer and all errors |
| 23:44.37 | abrotman | grammar? :) |
| 23:44.41 | macman_ | lol |
| 23:45.14 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: what exactly are you trying to find out? |
| 23:45.49 | jpinx-eeepc | dondelelcaro: I'd like to know what port rdesktop will use to a remote XP box |
| 23:45.50 | macman_ | abrotman: did you get that question .. i know it was complicated .. even for me |
| 23:46.27 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: then you'll see that if you do strace -e trace=network |
| 23:46.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, nc -l -p 12345 & sleep 1; strace -f -F -e trace=network telnet localhost 12345 |
| 23:47.39 | jpinx-eeepc | dondelelcaro: is that before I make the connection, or oce it is established? |
| 23:48.12 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: that's confusing for me ;) |
| 23:48.15 | edju | nobody on how to get a console from within X? |
| 23:48.21 | abrotman | ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 23:48.27 | edju | running lenny. have nvidia graphics. cannot get a console w/ ctrl-alt-f1, only a black screen - no prompt. ctrl-alt-f7 does get me back. also, cannot get a console log-in from kdm. inittab is the default. where might i start looking to solve this? |
| 23:48.30 | dondelelcaro | jpinx-eeepc: that's as you make the connection. You can also go strace -e trace=connect foo bar baz; if you want to see it exactly. |
| 23:48.41 | betz | Is it possible to run software as a other user then root? |
| 23:48.41 | abrotman | macman_: i think you sohuld be fine |
| 23:48.48 | dondelelcaro | betz: yes |
| 23:49.06 | macman_ | bbs testing |
| 23:49.40 | jpinx-eeepc | dondelelcaro: I am trying it now on an existing ssh -X connection , but it's not telling me the port |
| 23:50.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, it's a simple-case example to show you how things go? |
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| 23:51.18 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm doing strace -e trace=network ssh for an existing ssh connection , but I'm not getting any port info |
| 23:51.20 | locoputo | hey, who can help me with apache2 and php problems? |
| 23:51.37 | jpinx-eeepc | !ask |
| 23:51.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 23:53.24 | locoputo | I have set up apache2 and php5. I am trying to add a domain. When I set everything up and restart apache2, my browser tries to make me download the file as apache2 doesn't parse it |
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| 23:54.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't find mime types |
| 23:54.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, php |
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| 23:55.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps the additional virtual host doesn't parse /etc/php*/.... |
| 23:55.35 | locoputo | how can I make it do so? |
| 23:56.04 | TheCoffeMaker | locoputo, is you php module enabled? |
| 23:56.07 | jpinx-eeepc | locoputo: what do you mean by "adding a domain"? |
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| 23:57.04 | locoputo | I added a domain by adding a seperate http.conf file for my domain. And doing Include /path/to/other/domains/conf.conf in the httpd.conf |
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| 23:58.08 | locoputo | hmm never mind, it seems to work now... :\ |
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| 23:58.48 | locoputo | another question... |
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