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| 00:00.56 | janm | nkuttler: and 'foo' here would be? |
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| 00:08.46 | flat | :/ X11 3.3.6 won`t compile on lenny i try to compile it static on older linux system :/ |
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| 00:08.55 | agaran | what it says? |
| 00:09.23 | flat | its gcc 4.x series :/ |
| 00:09.39 | flat | need use 2.9x |
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| 00:10.29 | flat | i`m currently on P120 with irssi write all the messages here is bit too much :) |
| 00:10.48 | nkuttler | janm: -kbd etc |
| 00:10.51 | agaran | hmm, cat /dev/vcs<numberofconsoleyou use> on another console |
| 00:10.58 | agaran | then store content on pastebin somewhere? |
| 00:11.29 | flat | i try |
| 00:11.52 | agaran | vcs is raw dump of someconsole just screen content.. |
| 00:12.01 | agaran | sometimes its damn usefull |
| 00:12.25 | agaran | heh, first time from years that somebody use slower machine than myself |
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| 00:13.03 | votan | hahaha |
| 00:13.07 | flat | i don`t want throw it away it sill does good job. |
| 00:13.17 | votan | flat: compile gentoo on your p120 |
| 00:13.53 | flat | and wait years ? kernel 2.6.29.3 compile took 380min :) |
| 00:14.00 | agaran | flat: i didn't throw too.. |
| 00:14.07 | agaran | flat: i have even my first 486;) |
| 00:14.16 | votan | hhahaha |
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| 00:14.20 | bookmark | hiya |
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| 00:14.45 | bookmark | is there a webbrowser with flash support that is very small? |
| 00:15.15 | flat | seamonkey is i think smallest which supports flash plugin :/ (still big ..) |
| 00:15.21 | nkuttler | bookmark: there are various webkit/gecko based browsers.. not sure if they qualify as small |
| 00:15.42 | nkuttler | seamonkey? are you kidding? |
| 00:16.02 | flat | runs good even on my p200 |
| 00:16.03 | bookmark | which is the smallest out of those mentioned nkuttler? |
| 00:16.16 | nkuttler | bookmark: no idea. firefox is fine for me |
| 00:16.42 | fignew | bookmark: arora |
| 00:16.50 | flat | agaran: i`m currently building a mosix cluster from several old motherboards :) PII 233Mhz up to Celeron 1,3Ghz |
| 00:17.09 | agaran | flat: i had no experience with mosix unfortunatelly |
| 00:17.12 | flat | but i`m not sure what i should too with it :) |
| 00:17.21 | nkuttler | arora is qt, so quite bloated unless you use kde |
| 00:17.24 | bookmark | thanks mang |
| 00:17.29 | bookmark | yeah that is small |
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| 00:18.15 | fignew | nkuttler: uh, mot exactly.... |
| 00:18.39 | flat | agaran: i found binary distribution of Xfree86 3.3.6 i will try it first :) |
| 00:18.40 | PingFloyd | flat: midori is fairly light weight, can't remember if it supports flash |
| 00:18.46 | nkuttler | oh, wait, it doesn't load all the kde bloat :) |
| 00:19.11 | agaran | flat: hmm i know distro which is 2.4.x kernel compatibile.. so you should be able to get some stuff from there, but its rpm based.. |
| 00:19.47 | flat | who cares all packet managments have its flaws |
| 00:20.10 | bookmark | fignew, arora has no lib directory |
| 00:20.15 | bookmark | or plugin directory |
| 00:20.19 | bookmark | where do i put the so? |
| 00:20.23 | agaran | somebody care, i am new to debian so rpm is much more natural for me.. but thats probably due to some years of using |
| 00:21.01 | twinkie_addict | doesnt slack ware still have suport for 2.4.x kernels i though they still shiped the old kernel on the cd , i may be wrong though |
| 00:21.04 | bookmark | or do i have to like compile some other shiz? |
| 00:21.20 | fignew | bookmark: qt4 handles flash |
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| 00:22.21 | flat | twinkie_addict: even slackware in newest editon requieres 2.6 :/ |
| 00:22.22 | sladi | bookmark: Midori |
| 00:22.29 | fignew | bookmark: you're using unstable? |
| 00:22.31 | flat | s/requieres/requires |
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| 00:22.59 | agaran | flat: seen privmsg? |
| 00:23.01 | twinkie_addict | ah |
| 00:23.09 | flat | sry :/ |
| 00:23.40 | flat | i`m new to irssi :/ |
| 00:24.02 | agaran | flat: no problem, usually alt-number or esc-number switches between windows |
| 00:25.02 | amites1 | how can I open access to /var/www/<web-site dir> for apache? |
| 00:25.30 | nkuttler | amites1: make it readable to www-data? |
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| 00:26.07 | amites1 | yes |
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| 00:26.20 | nkuttler | amites1: well, chown, chmod etc |
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| 00:26.46 | amites1 | I think, working on my first server setup |
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| 00:28.28 | bookmark | fignew no i'm using stable |
| 00:28.46 | bookmark | i dunno where to put the plugin |
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| 00:32.27 | fignew | bookmark: stable's version of arora won't support flash |
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| 00:37.11 | twinkie_addict | does mplayer cli mode suport digital autio extroction ? workbone seems not to |
| 00:38.29 | kennethd | dist-upgrading etch->lenny.. Need to get 1443MB of archives. where does that stuff download to? i've only got 1.3gb free on var & 205MB on usr. can i redirect it to an external drive by any chance? |
| 00:39.07 | nkuttler | kennethd: /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 00:39.43 | nkuttler | kennethd: mount --bind the other drive if you can't free up enough space |
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| 00:40.19 | kennethd | nkuttler: if i ln -s /var/cache/apt to the external drive, ... oh, wait, will look that up |
| 00:42.10 | PingFloyd | kennethd: instead why not mount a filesystem on ext drive to /var/cache/apt |
| 00:42.50 | nkuttler | oh right. actually, there are other file in there too that you probably want to preserve |
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| 00:43.17 | nkuttler | i'd simply free up some space though |
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| 00:44.34 | twinkie_addict | why not move what yo want to keep over to external drive and do a clean install of lenny ? |
| 00:44.51 | nkuttler | twinkie_addict: why would he want to do that? |
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| 00:45.21 | twinkie_addict | good point :) |
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| 00:46.06 | twinkie_addict | im still a clean install to upgrade vs a rolling release style upgrade i guess |
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| 00:50.49 | kennethd | whoa, purging mysql bin logs should do it.. not even sure why those are on on this machine... thanks guys |
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| 00:52.37 | Zharf | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.39 | Zharf | whpos |
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| 00:56.18 | bookmark | how do you make linux sleep? |
| 00:56.49 | Guerin | bookmark: give it warm milk and read it a bedtime story |
| 00:56.54 | bookmark | awsome |
| 00:56.56 | nkuttler | bookmark: uswsusp works fine for me |
| 00:56.56 | bookmark | love it |
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| 00:57.14 | jmd | I'd use something stronger, like whiskey. |
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| 00:57.52 | adb | flat: [02:07:27] <flat> need use 2.9x >> done some research > DebianPotato has gcc : 2.95.2 + cpp 2.95.2-13.1, but not install on lenny ... |
| 00:58.29 | jmd | bookmark, What on earth do you mean? There is the sleep command, but that makes a process sleep, not "linux". |
| 00:58.46 | jmd | It doesn't make any sense for a kernel to "sleep". |
| 00:58.48 | bookmark | well you know how you push the button on your laptop and the thing goes really still |
| 00:58.53 | bookmark | in windows |
| 00:59.04 | agaran | you mean hibernate machine? |
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| 00:59.36 | bookmark | sure |
| 00:59.40 | bookmark | well sort of |
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| 00:59.52 | bookmark | its like it jsut holds whatever in memory |
| 00:59.57 | nkuttler | bookmark: uswsusp works fine for me |
| 01:00.06 | bookmark | i apt-got that |
| 01:00.08 | bookmark | but how do i use it |
| 01:00.35 | bookmark | i tried it and now it says command not found |
| 01:00.53 | nkuttler | bookmark: /usr/share/doc/uswsusp/* |
| 01:01.08 | nkuttler | bookmark: basicalls s2<tab> |
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| 01:01.33 | bookmark | english? |
| 01:01.42 | bookmark | or linuxish rather |
| 01:01.47 | bookmark | i didn't understand that |
| 01:01.59 | nkuttler | which part? |
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| 01:02.42 | janm | nkuttler: thanks. do you know if xserver-xorg-kbd, etc.. will be available soon> |
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| 01:03.17 | bookmark | Ample-X:~# /usr/share/doc/uswsusp/* |
| 01:03.18 | bookmark | bash: /usr/share/doc/uswsusp/changelog.Debian.gz: Permission denied |
| 01:03.21 | bookmark | ok..... |
| 01:03.22 | bookmark | i'm root |
| 01:03.30 | agaran | dont execute them |
| 01:03.32 | agaran | read |
| 01:03.42 | bookmark | i tried man uswsusp |
| 01:03.48 | bookmark | it said no man available |
| 01:03.53 | nkuttler | bookmark: man s2ram |
| 01:04.06 | bookmark | great thanks |
| 01:04.13 | bookmark | ah s2tab rather |
| 01:04.20 | bookmark | i thought it was like a shortcut key |
| 01:04.27 | bookmark | i pushed s 2 tab |
| 01:04.32 | bookmark | nothing happened hahah |
| 01:05.10 | nkuttler | janm: hm, -kbd doesn't seem to exist, install xserver-xorg-input-all |
| 01:05.39 | nkuttler | janm: nah, xserver-xorg-input-kbd is already in sid |
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| 01:07.48 | agaran | gn8 |
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| 01:11.15 | janm | nkuttler: yeah, and it conflicts with xserver-xorg atm. just wondering if updates to those haven't hit sid yet |
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| 01:12.17 | nkuttler | janm: no conflict here |
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| 01:15.16 | janm | nkuttler: which arch? |
| 01:16.40 | adb | janm: which arch? |
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| 01:17.48 | janm | adb: x86-64 |
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| 01:18.16 | adb | oh , i'm only 386 |
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| 01:18.49 | janm | adb: no conflicts there I guess? |
| 01:19.00 | adb | not on lenny |
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| 01:19.40 | janm | adb: ok |
| 01:19.47 | jmd | Do I have to update tzdata now that daylight saving has changed? |
| 01:20.11 | jmd | If so, how do I do it? |
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| 01:20.24 | adb | no |
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| 01:20.47 | adb | tzdata wont change |
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| 01:21.30 | bookmark | how do i get flash working iceweasel? |
| 01:22.00 | adb | put it in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
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| 01:22.35 | adb | ls /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins |
| 01:22.45 | adb | does what ? |
| 01:23.52 | jmd | adb, So what has to change? |
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| 01:24.35 | zamba | why doesn't 'tcpdump ip proto icmp' work? |
| 01:25.04 | zamba | oh, must be escaped |
| 01:25.05 | zamba | my bad |
| 01:26.11 | adb | jmd: for ? |
| 01:26.23 | jmd | For the daylight saving changes |
| 01:26.45 | adb | nothing |
| 01:26.59 | adb | it is an automatic process |
| 01:27.04 | jmd | ??? |
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| 01:27.16 | jmd | You mean it has some way of predicting the future? |
| 01:27.22 | zinx | jmd: yes |
| 01:27.34 | Polarina | The future cannot be predicted. |
| 01:27.50 | jmd | Polarina, According to adb it can! |
| 01:27.53 | zinx | jmd: when politicians say they're going to change it again, Debian gets updated |
| 01:28.02 | zinx | jmd: before the change happens |
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| 01:28.39 | zinx | jmd: that only has to be done when they're a change in how it works, anyway |
| 01:29.06 | zinx | jmd: and you need to be keeping debian up-to-date for reasons other than time zones :P |
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| 01:29.21 | jmd | zinx, Which has just happened. (and happens every 3 - 5 years ) |
| 01:29.46 | zinx | jmd: yes, and the time zone files get updated, well before the DST changes |
| 01:30.10 | jmd | zinx, But probably not before the next stable release. |
| 01:30.16 | zinx | jmd: if you're keeping debian updated, you don't have to do anything at all. and you should be keeping it updated, even when the time zones aren't changing. |
| 01:30.25 | zinx | jmd: for every supported release |
| 01:30.47 | zinx | jmd: which includes the current and previous stable releases, currently |
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| 01:31.17 | zinx | jmd: i think you are missing the concept of updates |
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| 01:32.35 | jmd | Well apt-get update pulls from /etc/apt/sources.list If I have that pointing to stable, then updates don't happen very often. |
| 01:32.59 | zinx | so? |
| 01:33.13 | zinx | you get the updates that are needed :/ |
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| 01:33.27 | zinx | and time zones are one of the things that are needed, and updated :/ |
| 01:34.04 | jmd | But stable gets updated (if we're lucky) once every 2-3 years .... and only when ALL bugs have been fixed. |
| 01:34.16 | zinx | uh |
| 01:34.24 | zinx | you've been seriously misinformed |
| 01:34.32 | zinx | stable gets regular updates |
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| 01:35.10 | jmd | I thought only security got regular updates. |
| 01:35.31 | zinx | nope, stable gets updates too afaik |
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| 01:35.54 | adb | see 5.0.0 and 5.0.1 |
| 01:35.59 | zinx | but fwiw, you should probably be pulling in the security updates as well |
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| 01:37.33 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I am creating a user for backups and was wondering if I could get rid of its password so there was no way to login to the account other then being root and changing to it. Anyone? Thanks |
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| 01:40.00 | unop | Gokee2, passwd -l user |
| 01:41.07 | Gokee2 | unop, Perfect thanks! |
| 01:41.33 | wolfy_net | hi guys im having trouble with playing movies (any format avi, wmv, mpg etc). everytime i go to play a movie its all purple. i had a issue like this before but i used gstreamer properties to fix it. but its not the case this time. does anyone know what the prob could be? |
| 01:42.40 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.53 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:44.14 | bookmark | hi |
| 01:44.19 | bookmark | i have no sound |
| 01:44.22 | bookmark | what can i do? |
| 01:44.46 | adb | speaker-test -t wav -c2 |
| 01:44.55 | epsas | hum, loudlyj/k |
| 01:45.28 | bookmark | 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
| 01:46.24 | adb | bookmark: ^^ |
| 01:46.33 | bookmark | is there like a module or something? |
| 01:49.37 | jaggz- | for what? |
| 01:49.50 | jaggz- | oops, was in scrollback |
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| 01:50.54 | Decepticon | how do i prevent word wrap in the terminal. how can i get output thats suppsoed to be on one line and scroll left/right |
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| 01:54.15 | mmu_man | damn, I miss libsupc++.a for i386 on x86_64 :-( |
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| 01:54.34 | mmu_man | I do have gcc-multilib installed as dep of libc6-dev-i386... |
| 01:54.51 | mmu_man | oddly there is a /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.2/32/ with C runtime libs not not C++ ones :è- |
| 01:54.56 | mmu_man | grmbl |
| 01:55.16 | mmu_man | on lenny... |
| 01:55.52 | mmu_man | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libsupc%2B%2B.a&mode=exactfilename&suite=stable&arch=ia64 ... |
| 01:56.16 | adb | ia64 ? |
| 01:57.10 | mmu_man | well it's a bi core2duo... |
| 01:57.21 | mmu_man | should be ia64 right ? though uname -a says x86_64 |
| 01:57.31 | adb | no amd64 |
| 01:57.41 | mmu_man | didn't raally have the choice on the kernel |
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| 01:58.47 | mmu_man | anyway, gcc has libgcc & friends in 32/ but not c++ libs... I suppose some ppl don't care about C++ ... |
| 01:58.58 | mmu_man | trying to build Haiku |
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| 01:59.19 | adb | we know it , |
| 02:00.43 | mmu_man | cf. http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/haiku/haiku/trunk/docs/userguide/en/installation/install-source-linux.html |
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| 02:01.10 | mmu_man | I hope upgrading from etch to lenny on my athlon will work better than this server ;) |
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| 02:01.47 | mmu_man | well 64bit seems to still be a bit mess overall |
| 02:02.26 | mmu_man | adb any ETA on fixing ? maybe I could help, don't have much time though |
| 02:02.52 | mmu_man | it should just be a matter or rebuilding with c++ I suppose |
| 02:02.53 | simNIX | would do a fresh install when going from etch to lenny ... |
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| 02:03.24 | mmu_man | simNIX indeed, I don't have enough disk space to upgrade anyway, so I'll just backup to the 500GB drive and reinstall |
| 02:03.25 | adb | i'm on i386 apt-file search libsupc++.a get g++-4.3-multilib: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3/64/libsupc++.a |
| 02:04.09 | adb | http://pastebin.com/m45c88649 |
| 02:04.20 | mmu_man | didn't know bout apt-file first... wasn't even installed here |
| 02:04.36 | adb | install it than |
| 02:04.42 | mmu_man | just did |
| 02:04.50 | adb | bien |
| 02:04.54 | mmu_man | apt-file update : Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 02:04.57 | mmu_man | eh |
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| 02:05.30 | mmu_man | (WTF amd64 when it's intel ? I'll never understand this mess) |
| 02:05.30 | adb | so you are on amd64 not ia64 |
| 02:05.45 | mmu_man | model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz |
| 02:05.51 | mmu_man | from /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:05.52 | adb | it's amd patent |
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| 02:06.22 | mmu_man | ugh, intel selling AMD designs ? lol, best joke of the year :) |
| 02:06.47 | adb | 2-years back i guess |
| 02:06.49 | mmu_man | well they have ARM licences as well anyway, oh well |
| 02:07.11 | Ace2017_- | is there an app that will create a regexp text for you? |
| 02:07.53 | mmu_man | Ace2017_- like a regexp GUI builder ? |
| 02:07.56 | mmu_man | dunno |
| 02:07.56 | Ace2017_- | yea |
| 02:07.57 | adb | !tell Ace2017_- about search |
| 02:08.02 | mmu_man | maybe Emacs has it |
| 02:08.06 | mmu_man | Emacs does everything ;) |
| 02:08.46 | Ace2017_- | i keep finding apps which use regexp instead of ones which allow you to create a regexp text from a gui |
| 02:09.04 | mmu_man | g++-4.3-multilib: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3/32/libsupc++.a |
| 02:09.06 | mmu_man | oh |
| 02:09.22 | mmu_man | WTF I thought this one was installed too |
| 02:09.42 | mmu_man | ohhh yeah *gcc*-4.3-multilib but not g++... |
| 02:09.45 | mmu_man | WTF |
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| 02:10.23 | adb | hehe , dodo time ;) |
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| 02:10.49 | tom44 | My wireless card uses the orinoco_cs driver by default. I've installed the hostap driver and would like to force it to use that instead. Can anybody point me in the right direction? |
| 02:11.15 | mmu_man | thx adb |
| 02:11.22 | mmu_man | oué c'est 4h ici aussi :) |
| 02:11.26 | adb | de rien ;) |
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| 02:11.56 | mmu_man | need to fix the haiku doc to mention g++-multilib or someone else will fail there too... |
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| 02:12.05 | Ace2017_- | i know | is or so i tred grep -e "apple|banana" file, but it didn't work |
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| 02:13.51 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.03 | Ace2017_- | oh |
| 02:14.32 | Ace2017_- | i think it worked when i used egrep |
| 02:14.46 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.00 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:15.33 | jaggz- | okay, how do I change desktops from a keyboard action (macro)? is there a DCOP call? |
| 02:15.53 | mmu_man | c'est parti... |
| 02:16.11 | adb | jolis |
| 02:16.45 | wooj | why is aptitude wanting to safe-upgrade my kernel to another kernel of seemingly the same version? |
| 02:16.51 | wooj | bugfix or something? |
| 02:17.19 | jaggz- | no matter the number, this switches to my last desktop (8): dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface switchDesktops 1 |
| 02:17.38 | mmu_man | Ace2017_- grep '\(banana\|apple\)' |
| 02:17.38 | simNIX | bigfix |
| 02:18.06 | mmu_man | wooj likely yes |
| 02:18.39 | mmu_man | does Workspaces 9 |
| 02:18.42 | wooj | mmu_man, will I need to recompile my added modules, or will they still work given the same kernel version? |
| 02:18.44 | mmu_man | but that's in BeOS/Haiku :p |
| 02:19.21 | wooj | I remember BeOS.... years ago |
| 02:19.26 | mmu_man | wooj AFAIK it should be the same ABI/API since it's the same version, but I recall seeing warnings telling other way |
| 02:19.36 | wooj | mmu_man, okay, thanks :) |
| 02:19.36 | mmu_man | still works fine here :p |
| 02:19.42 | mmu_man | http://haiku-os.org :p |
| 02:19.50 | wooj | eh? |
| 02:20.00 | mmu_man | in any case, aptitude should give you a warning if otherwise |
| 02:20.02 | wooj | oh.. cool |
| 02:20.09 | wooj | mmu_man, allrighty, ty |
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| 02:21.33 | adb | mmu_man: some new state in haiku for m68k ? |
| 02:22.13 | adb | i lost contact to last months |
| 02:22.21 | mmu_man | not much, I recently added floppy boot support but it fails at launching the kernel |
| 02:22.33 | mmu_man | using the .prg method goes further |
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| 02:23.10 | adb | oh good one , have you seen "emile" ? |
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| 02:24.15 | adb | judd: versions emile |
| 02:24.15 | judd | adb: emile -- etch: 0.10-1 sid: 0.11-2 squeeze: 0.11-2 |
| 02:24.53 | wooj | woot scummvm works with sound now. My life is complete. Time to find my old Loom cd. |
| 02:25.33 | mmu_man | yes I downloaded the source code, I do have a Mac LC III here, just don't have the time |
| 02:25.46 | mmu_man | plus I don't have an mmu enabled mac emulator |
| 02:25.52 | mmu_man | just ARAnyM for Falcon |
| 02:26.11 | mmu_man | and UAE now has the mmu patch from ARAnyM backported so I could try amiga port |
| 02:27.15 | adb | i run ARAnyM on i386 |
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| 02:29.05 | adb | but is some slow |
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| 02:29.52 | adb | as LC III on @1000mhz pc ... |
| 02:32.18 | mmu_man | :) |
| 02:33.30 | mmu_man | ...updated 4276 target(s)... |
| 02:33.31 | mmu_man | \o/ |
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| 02:37.15 | mmu_man | grrr qemu still doesn't have my wacom fixes merged in |
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| 02:40.42 | twinkie_addict | i realy like lxde :) |
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| 02:42.32 | mmu_man | ok, n8 |
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| 02:43.14 | adb | g'night mmu_man |
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| 02:43.56 | mmu_man | WTF is nano used by default ??? |
| 02:44.00 | mmu_man | tsss |
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| 02:44.24 | adb | lenny ? yes |
| 02:45.21 | mmu_man | bleh |
| 02:45.41 | mmu_man | is that what they call evolution ? :p |
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| 02:46.15 | adb | evolution is here too ;) (kidding) |
| 02:46.28 | twinkie_addict | nano isnt bad |
| 02:46.28 | mmu_man | vim should just be mandatory at school anyway |
| 02:46.39 | mmu_man | I didn't say it was, it's just != |
| 02:46.50 | mmu_man | non-standard :D |
| 02:46.56 | twinkie_addict | i like jedit |
| 02:47.14 | mmu_man | XEmacs or Pe in BeOS... |
| 02:47.23 | mmu_man | must finish the native XEmacs port someday |
| 02:47.35 | mmu_man | and vi, vi I use a lot in BeOS too :) |
| 02:47.41 | twinkie_addict | but for cli i like it with emacs :) |
| 02:48.54 | twinkie_addict | well realy id ratter use jedit for most stuff for my needs , :) i could never get my head around vim |
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| 02:51.23 | adb | twinkie_addict: how many time take someone to understand that 1+1 = 1 ? |
| 02:52.39 | twinkie_addict | shouldnt take that many :) |
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| 02:52.48 | mmu_man | 1+1=10 |
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| 02:52.55 | mmu_man | well, depends which base |
| 02:53.18 | mmu_man | there are 10 types of people in this world... |
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| 02:56.05 | twinkie_addict | i will atmit ive been looking at cream , wich seems to be a friendliers config for vim |
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| 03:07.53 | bookmark | hiya |
| 03:08.00 | bookmark | does anyone know how to change window managers? |
| 03:08.08 | bookmark | i'm really sick of looking at gnome |
| 03:08.25 | bookmark | i wanna bash it over its gnome head |
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| 03:10.15 | Trey__ | just install what you want and pick it from session manager |
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| 03:10.30 | bookmark | it didn't even show up there |
| 03:10.45 | Trey__ | what did you install? |
| 03:10.49 | bookmark | evilwm |
| 03:10.56 | Trey__ | hmm |
| 03:11.01 | Trey__ | dunno that one |
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| 03:11.20 | Trey__ | docs :/ |
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| 03:15.17 | Phil_26_ | Hi. Is it possible to install a program without root access (deluge) ? |
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| 03:16.28 | amanda-b | depends on how you do it. with a .deb? no. with source? if you know how. |
| 03:16.33 | adb | use su |
| 03:16.43 | luke3321 | Are there any Debian developers here that would like to feild a quick question? |
| 03:16.49 | amanda-b | !ask |
| 03:16.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 03:17.22 | luke3321 | Alright alright |
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| 03:18.13 | luke3321 | Is there any difference/preference between running testing vs sid while developing for debian? |
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| 03:22.09 | amanda-b | depends on how broken you want to be. sid is always a moving target. as in, daily. |
| 03:22.18 | adb | luke3321: we may run stable testing sid in different partitions / or vbox, xen, kvm , big choise |
| 03:22.19 | galen_ | i see a 486 and k7 kernel in the repository... are they the same? |
| 03:22.35 | adb | no |
| 03:22.51 | luke3321 | abd: What is your particular setup? |
| 03:23.02 | adb | lenny + vbox |
| 03:23.26 | adb | qemu too |
| 03:23.40 | luke3321 | abd: Just what I was thinking of doing. Whats qemu? |
| 03:23.52 | adb | 386 + ppc + m68k |
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| 03:24.23 | luke3321 | abd: Mhm. Well thanks for the input! |
| 03:24.24 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.45 | adb | yw |
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| 03:27.24 | Gokee2 | I keep getting "Uncaught exception Invalid_argument("String.create")" when trying to run unison. One of the few references I have found to that is http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org/msg178159.html however its for a much older version of unison and says it was fixed. Any idea what could be causing this message now? Thanks |
| 03:28.25 | galen_ | adb: k7 != 486? |
| 03:28.53 | galen_ | i have an athlon 900 box i want to put debin on... i have loaded up the 486 kernel using another box, and this box still has trouble |
| 03:28.54 | adb | yes |
| 03:29.10 | galen_ | adb: what is k7? should i install it for this system? |
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| 03:29.18 | adb | install lenny please -686 |
| 03:29.33 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.41 | galen_ | adb: are you sure 686 will be happy on that CPU? it's an old AMD Athlon 900 |
| 03:29.57 | adb | sure no pbl |
| 03:30.27 | galen_ | this system is kernel panicing post-grub and i cant figure out why... i will put the 686 kernel back on there, anything else i should try? |
| 03:30.48 | adb | fix grub ? |
| 03:31.24 | galen_ | adb: grub is OK. problem happens when loading the kernel |
| 03:31.25 | adb | use debian cd in recover mode |
| 03:31.54 | galen_ | disk boots in other boxes, but not this athlon |
| 03:33.05 | adb | raid ? |
| 03:33.17 | adb | no sure |
| 03:33.27 | adb | not* sure |
| 03:34.03 | adb | it's etch , right ? |
| 03:34.41 | liable | did 686 support amd kernels back in etch? there was still k7 back then wasnt it? |
| 03:35.16 | adb | i tell 686 from lenny |
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| 03:35.31 | adb | told* |
| 03:35.45 | galen_ | adb: 5.01 |
| 03:36.02 | adb | and kernel ? |
| 03:36.16 | galen_ | about to try the 686 again |
| 03:36.45 | adb | try what ? installing ? |
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| 03:42.39 | galen_ | adb: i put drive back in secondary machine, setup several kernels, i'm trying each |
| 03:44.30 | galen_ | the 686 kernel yields the same error.. "failed to allocate memory resource..." |
| 03:46.08 | adb | heh , memory resource . try to change memory sticks/banket |
| 03:46.35 | adb | !memtest |
| 03:46.35 | dpkg | it has been said that memtest is http://www.memtest.org/ . Also check out http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/ or check out the packages memtest86 and memtest86+, or "aptitude install memtest86+" and read /usr/share/doc/memtest86+, or for cpu temperature testing use the cpuburn package, or ask me about <cpuburn> |
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| 03:48.23 | galen_ | adb: memtest86 was ok just a few days ago |
| 03:48.38 | adb | on this pc ? |
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| 03:50.03 | galen_ | adb: yes. i removed a memory stick however, and it is booting further, albeit the same error is happening, it's not panicing this time |
| 03:50.50 | adb | !fix grub |
| 03:50.51 | dpkg | takes grub to the vet for a "special" visit. |
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| 03:55.10 | adb | !initrd |
| 03:55.10 | dpkg | initrd is, like, initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230, or make-kpkg --initrd |
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| 03:59.02 | betz | Hi! Is it safe to install a x11 server on a webserver? |
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| 04:00.13 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.22 | betz | yeah |
| 04:01.25 | adb | yes , but bad for server , is lost_ting resources |
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| 04:02.26 | betz | dus it demand much resources? i have a quadcore 2.2 or something with 4gb ram. |
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| 04:03.08 | adb | and 10.000 user request goes where ? |
| 04:03.17 | adb | or more ... |
| 04:03.19 | imimimi | hi, is there a repository where i can download older releases of debian, like for the 2.4 kernel? i have some old drivers with no source code so i need an older kernel |
| 04:03.45 | betz | adb: just have few small websites running |
| 04:04.05 | adb | local net ? |
| 04:04.40 | betz | nope, datacenter |
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| 04:04.53 | galen_ | adb: it seems this system cannot tolerate 512 MB of RAM with any debian kernels i've tried! |
| 04:05.04 | galen_ | windows is OK with 512 MB. but linux... nooo |
| 04:05.47 | adb | betz: than up to you to decide |
| 04:06.09 | adb | galen_: which kernel tried ? |
| 04:06.35 | galen_ | 2.6.26, 486, 686, k7, et |
| 04:06.46 | galen_ | it seems other kernels have an issue |
| 04:06.49 | galen_ | i assume the bios is buggy |
| 04:07.09 | adb | tied initrd bot message ? |
| 04:07.44 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.52 | galen_ | adb: there is clearly an option there! |
| 04:08.58 | galen_ | in synaptic |
| 04:09.23 | galen_ | anyhow, it does not matter, i kept testing kernels and have concluded that no linux will boot properly with 512 MB of RAM installed |
| 04:09.30 | galen_ | ubuntu, centos, etc. |
| 04:09.36 | galen_ | even if it boots windows and passes memtest |
| 04:09.39 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:09.54 | galen_ | adb: well, more like a buggy bios |
| 04:10.33 | adb | possible |
| 04:11.08 | adb | or memory type is not supported |
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| 04:11.22 | galen_ | the memory is all identical... |
| 04:11.30 | adb | even |
| 04:12.17 | adb | hidensity , clocks , etc |
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| 04:13.13 | adb | i'll test other sticks ... |
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| 04:16.22 | adb | i guess it's a msi mb with via chips |
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| 04:20.15 | adb | imimimi: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 04:21.27 | adb | try woody/sarge |
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| 04:30.51 | adb | Q: may i put grub on usb stick ? |
| 04:32.12 | propellerhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.12 | propellerhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.11 | adb | !ops propellerhead spamed |
| 04:33.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: adb complains about: propellerhead spamed |
| 04:33.30 | hoxu | adb, don't use that when there's no real reason |
| 04:34.06 | adb | sure , ok |
| 04:34.20 | hoxu | that looked like a mistake or a cat, and he's gone anyway ;) |
| 04:34.42 | adb | heh |
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| 04:36.14 | kevin01123 | Is anyone else having problems with kpowersave changing power settings and suspending? |
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| 04:40.29 | fantomas | hi all. SSH question. I'm trying to log in to a remote station via ssh without password. I copied id_dsa_2048.pub to server's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 but it still reqiures password. Here is the output: http://pastebin.ca/1425143 What I do wrong? |
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| 04:42.47 | adb | FreeBSD ? |
| 04:42.53 | fantomas | I'm not a guru in inspecting ssh logs, but looks like server does "support" pubkey auth but somehow can't locate needed pubkey or something |
| 04:43.20 | fantomas | adb: debug: Remote version: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.5p1 FreeBSD-20061110 (10 line( |
| 04:43.33 | creature_ | if you have alot of packages that you have modified yourself wouldn't it be good idea to set up your own repository? |
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| 04:45.36 | adb | are those packages compatible with debian distribution ? if yes , sure |
| 04:45.58 | creature_ | adb: well yea |
| 04:46.12 | creature_ | they are the same but just with little modifications |
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| 04:54.20 | kevin01123 | Is acpi borked in Lenny for anyone else? |
| 04:57.22 | adb | fantomas: in debian in /etc/ssh/sshd_config has lines as "PermitEmptyPasswords no" , find same file to freebsd and change it as you want |
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| 05:02.33 | fantomas | adb: this is sitewide config right? I mean if I'm an admin of the freebsd station I can't change it |
| 05:02.45 | fantomas | I'm NOT an admin* |
| 05:03.04 | adb | ask than to admin ... |
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| 05:04.56 | tedge | (QEMU) hi. in my linux emulation a cat /proc/cpuinfo show "model name : Pentium II (Klamath)", but i did'nt understand if is the real performance of an pentium II is use, or if it's only a label ? on vm the cpu have same mhz, MORE cache size (x2), MORE bogomips (+100), why ? |
| 05:05.26 | tedge | (QEMU) hi. in my linux emulation a cat /proc/cpuinfo show "model name : Pentium II (Klamath)", but i did'nt understand if is the real performance of an pentium II is use, or if it's only a label ? on vm the cpu have same mhz, MORE cache size (x2), MORE bogomips (+100), why ? |
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| 05:08.44 | adb | ask qemu |
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| 05:10.17 | adb | tedge: /j #qemu |
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| 05:15.26 | tedge | i'm on but nobody answer ... |
| 05:15.53 | tedge | or everybody sleep x) |
| 05:16.30 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.43 | adb | sunday also |
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| 05:18.24 | adb | and on real hw what does cpuinfo ? |
| 05:19.07 | adb | anyways this must be the reference |
| 05:20.59 | hedgehoginfog_ | Does GNOME generally work faster than KDE? (It's the beginning of a flame war...) |
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| 05:21.35 | nsadmin | or the beginning of another copy of ome |
| 05:21.51 | nsadmin | one even |
| 05:22.03 | hedgehoginfog_ | not the beginning of a flame war I meant! |
| 05:22.31 | nsadmin | best to try em and see |
| 05:22.49 | hedgehoginfog_ | I know they are both full-featured DEs and I've never tried GNOME and I was wondering if it'd work any faster than KDE. |
| 05:23.08 | IamSOG | aahhhh, the new version of Debian didn't detect my sound card, but the old one Does :o this is odd |
| 05:23.49 | hedgehoginfog_ | IamSOG, You tried /msg dpkg sound ? |
| 05:24.09 | adb | hedgehoginfog_: no , other/lighter DE does |
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| 05:25.32 | IamSOG | oh not yet hedgehoginfog_, i will try that, thanks |
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| 05:29.05 | hedgehoginfog_ | Why is GNOME, not KDE, the default DE in Debian? Is it more about politics? |
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| 05:29.30 | vader | im on a box where ifconfig pulls a command not found error, i think this box was installed bare bones minimal. can i install that package manually? |
| 05:30.03 | hedgehoginfog_ | vader, It's not to be found even if you're root? |
| 05:30.36 | tedge | adb : the real hw is Pentium(R) Dual E2180 2Ghz, 1024 KB (2048kb vm) 3989.98 (4021.78 vm) |
| 05:30.44 | vader | hedgehoginfog_: the de wars are really useless. debian can use xfce or kde just as easily as gnome so use what you like |
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| 05:31.25 | vader | hedgehoginfog_: mark that mistake down for the idiot of the year award |
| 05:31.42 | hedgehoginfog_ | vader, which one? |
| 05:31.55 | vader | hedgehoginfog_: i wasnt root |
| 05:32.05 | hedgehoginfog_ | vader, ah :) |
| 05:32.10 | vader | hedgehoginfog_: i assumed it would give me a permission error |
| 05:32.26 | hedgehoginfog_ | For me it tells it can't be found. |
| 05:32.34 | hedgehoginfog_ | I usually do sudo ifconfig |
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| 05:33.29 | vader | hedgehoginfog_: that didnt help tho, i have a bridged device (which ends up as eth0 in a virtual machine) anyway i can get the ip of that device. im in CLI so i cant login to my router to check and i cant boot the VM in graphical to manually configure the address |
| 05:33.42 | vader | cant get* |
| 05:34.01 | vader | anyway i can check that? |
| 05:34.54 | adb | tedge: well , i guess qemu use a class of cpu grater P2 for simplified his live |
| 05:36.47 | adb | simplifying* his |
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| 05:41.50 | maximi89 | hi ppl! |
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| 05:42.16 | maximi89 | what about the hibernate with nVidia cards? who know something? |
| 05:42.31 | adb | !hibernate |
| 05:43.46 | hedgehoginfog_ | 0 |
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| 05:44.34 | Aid | hi |
| 05:44.52 | adb | !suspend |
| 05:44.52 | dpkg | Suspend can mean either suspend to disk (a.k.a. hibernate) or suspend to ram. The in-kernel suspend now works pretty well in etch (and even better in lenny) . There are also kernel patches that provide more features such as <tuxonice>. Installing the uswsusp and hibernate packages along with a front-end like gnome-power-manager or kpowersave should be enough. Also ask me about <suspend troubleshooting>. <swapwake> |
| 05:45.31 | ultraj6 | what is in-kernel suspend |
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| 05:49.25 | kevin01123 | Is kpowersave working for other people? I think my acpi in Lenny may be borked. |
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| 05:52.16 | nsadmin | kevin01123: if you already suspect the underlying kernel driver, explore that... find out if it's actually working properly or not... |
| 05:52.16 | ultraj6 | CHECKSUM BEFORE INSTALL |
| 05:53.00 | omg_onoez | hi |
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| 05:53.12 | omg_onoez | i have a lil trouble here with Xorg on my netbook |
| 05:53.12 | omg_onoez | http://pastebin.com/d63b309b |
| 05:53.14 | liable | kevin01123: whats it doing? |
| 05:53.24 | kevin01123 | liable: Nothing. |
| 05:53.28 | omg_onoez | and i have no ideas how to solve it |
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| 05:53.42 | nsadmin | kevin01123 that's not a lot to go on :P |
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| 05:53.55 | kevin01123 | nsadmin: It's just not showing up. |
| 05:54.25 | nsadmin | have you looked at things like your kernel logs |
| 05:54.25 | kevin01123 | liable & nsadmin: I reinstalled Lenny today and it doesn't work, but it worked two days ago on a seperate install, same disk. |
| 05:54.39 | ultraj6 | did you format the disk completly? |
| 05:54.41 | nsadmin | same hardware? |
| 05:54.49 | liable | kevin01123: what so you mean it doesnt show up? |
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| 05:55.34 | aryah_ | does moblock run ls -LRa for some reason periodically? it had some CPU usage spike after running wget for a new block list as root , then I saw root doing that? |
| 05:56.04 | kevin01123 | liable: It doesn't detect anything. Normally, when I unplug my AC adapter, it would detect the action and switch profiles promptly. Now, it does say it switches profiles, but nothing happens. Brightness stays the same. |
| 05:56.20 | liable | kevin01123: acpid runnin? |
| 05:57.29 | kevin01123 | liable: Yes. |
| 05:57.34 | maximi89 | sorry, i was looking something, the hibernate in my case works, but the computer still poweron after the resume of hibernate |
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| 05:59.00 | maximi89 | i have tuxonice |
| 05:59.06 | maximi89 | hibernate |
| 05:59.06 | kevin01123 | omg_onoez: What's wrong with your Xorg? |
| 05:59.17 | maximi89 | and acpi |
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| 05:59.32 | omg_onoez | kevin01123, http://pastebin.com/d63b309b |
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| 06:01.45 | abchirk | hi is anyone able to play such episodes? http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/220683 |
| 06:02.20 | abchirk | My flash player works fine.. except there |
| 06:02.33 | abchirk | only a grey background and nothin happens |
| 06:03.22 | sauvin | Locked up my ff. |
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| 06:03.38 | abchirk | :( |
| 06:04.03 | abchirk | I guess its flash 10, but I have flashplayer 10 here |
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| 06:04.13 | sauvin | Don't you just LOVE sites that assume the whole damn world is using micropoop malware? |
| 06:04.30 | liable | kevin01123: what about if you run the script manually? power.sh |
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| 06:04.58 | abchirk | sauvin some months ago I was able to watch there.... |
| 06:05.04 | abchirk | :P |
| 06:05.33 | kevin01123 | liable: Where is the script located? |
| 06:05.41 | liable | kevin01123: /etc/acpi/ |
| 06:06.22 | kevin01123 | /dev/sda: |
| 06:06.22 | kevin01123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.36 | kevin01123 | liable: That's the output. |
| 06:06.48 | kevin01123 | liable: Still, nothing. |
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| 06:07.08 | liable | kevin01123: thats with power unplugged? |
| 06:07.32 | kevin01123 | /dev/sda: |
| 06:07.33 | kevin01123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.40 | kevin01123 | liable: Unplugged. |
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| 06:09.08 | kevin01123 | liable: Sorry. Lost connection for a bit. |
| 06:11.15 | anoHito | Hello guys. i am here. |
| 06:11.44 | liable | kevin01123: no worries. i cant think why it wont work for you now except your missing a package. but if you have those acpi scripts and acpid is running, i cant think what |
| 06:11.45 | anoHito | Would someone suggest me a nice file system ,the server does basic web + mysql services. |
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| 06:13.02 | anoHito | i googled, i found this one http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html about the differences of the linux file systems, would anyone who speaks good english to help me to understand that ? |
| 06:13.16 | kevin01123 | liable: I know. It's making me irrate, especially because I saw it working two days ago. I thought it was something that happened with MEPIS when I installed it to try it out, but meh. Who knows. Maybe a conflicting configuration file in my home directory? |
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| 06:14.03 | liable | kevin01123: it shouldnt. but i dont know if kde saves any configs for kpowersave in the .kde dir. |
| 06:14.45 | anoHito | i mean, with the journaling file systems , they can help to reduce the damange when there is unproper shutting down ? |
| 06:14.51 | kevin01123 | liable: Two. kpowersave.eventsrc and kpowersaverc. Maybe...delete them? |
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| 06:15.26 | gamag | is there a way to install silverlight for iceweasel? |
| 06:15.33 | liable | kevin01123: try moving them out the way, sure |
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| 06:15.53 | liable | kevin01123: then logout/in again |
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| 06:17.38 | kevin01123 | liable: Nope. |
| 06:17.45 | kevin01123 | liable: Still nothing. |
| 06:17.51 | liable | oh well |
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| 06:18.58 | kevin01123 | I've reset my BIOS settings to default, I've purge the acpid, acpi-support, and acpi config files, I've deleted the local files, and I've reinstalled Lenny to try to fix this. |
| 06:19.08 | kevin01123 | :/ |
| 06:19.14 | copper_ | when i first installed lenny i opted to have the system on one partiton and /home on another. i want to reinstall debian but i want to keep my /home partiton the way it is. whats the easiest way to do this? |
| 06:19.28 | copper_ | to me there wasnt an obvious option on the install cd |
| 06:19.29 | adb | kevin01123: add a new user and try whit this user |
| 06:20.03 | kevin01123 | adb: I'm about to slap my self in my face. |
| 06:20.22 | kevin01123 | adb: You reminded me; I completly forgot to add my user account to "powerdev." |
| 06:20.23 | kevin01123 | :P |
| 06:21.04 | adb | !win kevin01123 |
| 06:21.04 | dpkg | Congratulations, kevin01123! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 06:21.35 | kevin01123 | Everything's turning up kevin01123 today. |
| 06:21.41 | kevin01123 | Thanks for the help guys. |
| 06:21.42 | kevin01123 | :D |
| 06:22.08 | adb | have fun ! |
| 06:22.15 | kevin01123 | adb: Will do. |
| 06:22.25 | enouf | wonderful - 3hrs later .. and still upgrading |
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| 06:23.23 | enouf | "During upgrades, new certificates will be added. Please choose those you trust. " |
| 06:23.35 | enouf | you're kidding, right? |
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| 06:24.45 | arda | hi |
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| 06:25.21 | enouf | oh .. and for atleast 4 hrs earlier today, my flaky (well, deeply parametered boot optios) BIOS completely pwned me - no restore (many various livecds + the installer) media would've even attempt to reinstall grub even |
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| 06:26.30 | enouf | oh yeah, and my orig / FS disk, (ya know, the one you keep around until you're absolutely certain the transfer to another disk is ok) decided to go belly up |
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| 06:26.42 | chataluck | enouf: hi |
| 06:26.52 | chataluck | can you hear me |
| 06:27.08 | enouf | !wb chataluck |
| 06:27.08 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! chataluck has returned! |
| 06:28.12 | adb | enouf: definitely it's not your day today . |
| 06:28.25 | adb | !encourage enouf |
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| 06:31.29 | diclev | Hello all. How to forbid recording into apache's access log records with definite IP? |
| 06:35.31 | adb | why ? |
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| 06:46.33 | creature_ | Skype really fucked up the alsa support |
| 06:46.51 | creature_ | shit doesn't work with pulseaudio |
| 06:46.57 | helios4234324 | Hey guys, I've got a locally networked debian machine and I'm running a Apache off it, however when people put files into the shared public_html directory they're written without any permissions and they aren't interacting properly |
| 06:47.10 | helios4234324 | I've tried installing an FTP server to fix this, so they can upload as a user |
| 06:47.15 | helios4234324 | but I can't connect to it |
| 06:47.25 | helios4234324 | What's the best course of action here? Fix FTP? Find a better route? |
| 06:47.42 | enouf | Total disk space freed by localepurge: 98584K |
| 06:47.57 | helios4234324 | I can telnet IP 21 to the FTP server, but using an FTP application gives me a "misc" error -221 or something |
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| 06:48.14 | enouf | (and that was the 2nd go'round - the 1st time recently it was over 120M) |
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| 06:49.09 | adelie42 | I am trying to remember the CLI tool for defining viewports. Can anyone help? |
| 06:49.44 | enouf | ok, that's done - now to see what apt-get -s dist-upgrade has in store ; atleast 300+ more pkgs |
| 06:50.18 | enouf | 398 not upgraded. |
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| 06:52.22 | enouf | how hard is it to get vim to take an existing text file with the line wrap crap from nano set to ~120, and convert it to 79-80 ? |
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| 06:53.53 | adelie42 | I'd use sed. easy |
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| 06:54.33 | adelie42 | and you can disable line wrapping in nano |
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| 06:55.20 | adelie42 | yeah, I hate that too. It is the most common way I have ever FUBAR'd config files |
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| 06:56.49 | copper_ | can someone tell me how to reinstall debian on a partiton ? |
| 06:57.10 | adelie42 | with an install CD? |
| 06:57.16 | copper_ | ok? |
| 06:57.35 | copper_ | the install cd wants to format the whole drive |
| 06:57.47 | adelie42 | ooh, choose manual partitioning |
| 06:58.07 | copper_ | and then what? |
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| 06:58.27 | enouf | sed seems inapropos of a tool for this - what about paragraphs? |
| 06:58.28 | copper_ | my last install had a seperate /home with all my files. i want to be sure to keep that |
| 06:58.36 | adelie42 | if it is "stuck" trying to give you a default, hit escape, and it takes you to the expert menu |
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| 06:58.51 | enouf | or choose expert mode |
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| 06:59.21 | copper_ | im in expert mode now |
| 06:59.52 | enouf | then choose your /home and tell it not to touch the data |
| 07:00.00 | adelie42 | when you get to the partitioning step, it should give you quite a few more choices / control |
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| 07:00.54 | copper_ | so i should reformat the partition with debian on it? |
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| 07:01.39 | adelie42 | As far as the line wrapping, I'd say change the default of nano, and go through and fix the file manually. nano would have only changed the lines you edited, not converted the entire document |
| 07:03.03 | enouf | 383 upgraded, 255 newly installed, 30 to remove and 9 not upgraded. |
| 07:03.26 | copper_ | im using lvm |
| 07:03.32 | copper_ | not sure how to go about this |
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| 07:04.20 | adelie42 | copper_: you are required to format the root partition. other partition separated, such as home or boot, are optional |
| 07:04.31 | enouf | adelie42: thanks - i;m sick and tired of doing it manually - i just got done figuring out the diffs between 2 very similar files and correcting them .. manually - no more |
| 07:05.46 | adelie42 | Sometimes the easiest thing to do is 'dpkg --reconfigure foo' |
| 07:06.21 | adelie42 | then redo your edits, or whatever, but not sure if that applies here |
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| 07:08.12 | copper_ | what does rescue mode do? |
| 07:09.14 | enouf | 383 upgraded, 255 newly installed, 30 to remove and 9 not upgraded. |
| 07:09.15 | adelie42 | I've wondered that too |
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| 07:09.26 | enouf | !rescue mode |
| 07:09.26 | dpkg | Debian Installer has a recovery ('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the Installation Guide ("Recovering a Broken System") for more details. Etch users: Additional steps are required if you are using encrypted LVM, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto |
| 07:10.00 | adelie42 | thought there was more than that |
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| 07:12.09 | copper_ | see here is where im confused |
| 07:12.17 | copper_ | there is no option to leave the partition alone |
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| 07:12.42 | copper_ | so should i select "do not use" for my /home partition or while that write something to it? |
| 07:13.03 | copper_ | im in the partitioner |
| 07:13.35 | adelie42 | if you select the current format, and designate it as "/home", it insists on marking it for formatting? |
| 07:13.49 | adelie42 | format I'd assume ext3 |
| 07:14.05 | adb | say use it , and at next step tels installer don't format the home partition |
| 07:14.18 | adelie42 | selecting ext3 doesn't format it necessarily, just says what format it is for the fstab |
| 07:14.42 | copper_ | ah i see |
| 07:14.57 | copper_ | select ext3 and it offers to keep the existing date |
| 07:15.00 | copper_ | data |
| 07:15.00 | adelie42 | That confuse me for the longest time too |
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| 07:15.14 | copper_ | yes its not obvious |
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| 07:16.14 | adelie42 | more like default assumpdion is that pick format means take the action of formatting the drive. |
| 07:16.30 | omid8bimo | hey guys, can i find out my BIOS version from inside of my lenny? i don't want to reboot |
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| 07:17.20 | votan | how can you turn of ssh password caching in seahorse? |
| 07:17.53 | adelie42 | I think the openbios project has tools, but I haven't used them. |
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| 07:24.19 | enouf | omid8bimo: lshal | grep smbios |
| 07:24.57 | enouf | omid8bimo: other tools that might also help; lshw, dmidecode, biosdecode, hwinfo |
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| 07:25.31 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.50 | enouf | (from lshal) |
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| 07:26.27 | omid8bimo | enouf: thanks. but lshal shows no output |
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| 07:26.55 | enouf | lshal by itself would show pages |
| 07:27.06 | enouf | and pages |
| 07:27.35 | enouf | !what's my hardware |
| 07:27.35 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run as root or sudo; "lshw -html > myhardware.html" and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>. |
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| 07:28.06 | creature_ | where do you set the default web browser in gnome? |
| 07:28.32 | omid8bimo | enouf: i've isntalled hwinfo + lshw |
| 07:29.07 | enouf | creature_: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
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| 07:29.37 | creature_ | enouf: where did you get list for all those alternative thingies? |
| 07:29.51 | PingFloyd | creature_: with --list flag |
| 07:29.54 | enouf | creature_: update-alternatives --config [tab][tab] ;-) |
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| 07:30.13 | enouf | rthey're in /etc/alternatives too |
| 07:30.16 | creature_ | PingFloyd: yea but what flag? |
| 07:30.22 | enouf | and somewhere in /var |
| 07:30.32 | enouf | man update-alternatives |
| 07:30.52 | creature_ | ls /etc/alternatives |
| 07:31.05 | enouf | you need root for my initial tab+tab to work |
| 07:31.12 | enouf | and to use --config |
| 07:31.20 | hid3 | Morning everyone. Is there any HOW-TO for a deleted file recovery from ext2 (mainly using a hex editor)? I've googled but found just ext3 recovery steps with various tools... |
| 07:31.34 | enouf | hid3: mc |
| 07:31.37 | enouf | !undelete |
| 07:31.38 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
| 07:32.07 | enouf | hid3: mc == Mid.. Comma... |
| 07:32.15 | hid3 | yeah, I'm using it |
| 07:32.23 | hid3 | Thanks, will look deeper in it |
| 07:32.49 | PingFloyd | creature_: easiest way is just look in /etc/alternatives/ |
| 07:33.07 | jaggz- | evening |
| 07:33.14 | PingFloyd | creature_: update alternatives just pieces the symlinks together to point to whichever progs you want |
| 07:33.42 | PingFloyd | creature_: many of the menu items reference alternatives so you can change "default apps" on the fly |
| 07:34.46 | enouf | PingFloyd: turn on c-span2 now if you get it |
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| 07:35.48 | enouf | oh boy; dpkg: xserver-xorg: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: |
| 07:35.48 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.33 | PingFloyd | xorg should be a metapkg |
| 07:36.43 | PingFloyd | you should be able to remove that anyway just fine |
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| 07:38.46 | enouf | haha @ "reporters are too over-awed by these bozos" (referring to asking Ben Bernanke any sort of serious questions) after mentioning "not only are they too ignorant ..." |
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| 07:40.10 | enouf | (Reading database ... 171496 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 07:40.10 | enouf | Removing xserver-xorg ... |
| 07:40.21 | enouf | xserver-xorg prerm warning: X server provided by xserver-xorg package is |
| 07:40.21 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.37 | enouf | alrighty then |
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| 07:44.19 | enouf | if you don't get c-span* on cable or whatever, it's available as live streams, using realplayer media (which mplayer from dmm handles fine) or wvm |
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| 07:45.59 | enouf | bubbles anyone? http://c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/05/15/WJE/A/18640/Michael+Greenberger+University+of+Maryland+Law+School+Professor.aspx |
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| 07:48.19 | copper_ | is lilo the default bootloader in 5.0? |
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| 07:50.01 | adb | maybe for lvm |
| 07:52.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | !ids |
| 07:52.09 | dpkg | well, ids is Intrusion Detection System |
| 07:52.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | thanks dpkg >.> |
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| 07:52.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | does anyone know what IDS is run on the *.debian.org hosts? If not that one, can recommend something. |
| 07:52.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | This is on a Debian 5.0 system |
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| 07:54.08 | Mal3ko | hey guys..how do you disable the need for sudo for a particular commands? |
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| 07:54.47 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.02 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.08 | jmarsden | Kamping_Kaiser: snort is the best known open source IDS |
| 07:55.41 | copper_ | uh oh |
| 07:55.43 | copper_ | problems |
| 07:55.45 | Mal3ko | adb |
| 07:55.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | jmarsden, ok. Snort+ Tripwire are the two I've heard of. unless someone objects i'll look at them later :) |
| 07:55.50 | Mal3ko | sudo iftop |
| 07:56.29 | Mal3ko | i wish to disable sudo for that cmd so users can run iftop w/o requireing root access |
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| 07:57.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | Mal3ko, look at man 5 sudoers |
| 07:58.01 | copper_ | cant access tty; job control turned off |
| 07:58.35 | copper_ | what does that mean? |
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| 07:59.50 | xingu | Kamping_Kaiser: aide works reasonably well in the same space as tripwire (for a while there the latter was license-ly challenged) |
| 08:00.46 | enouf | Mal3ko: no |
| 08:00.46 | valdyn | copper_: in an X Terminal? |
| 08:00.55 | copper_ | console |
| 08:00.56 | enouf | Mal3ko: same for ntop |
| 08:01.03 | copper_ | i dont even have x installed |
| 08:01.04 | Mal3ko | what no? |
| 08:01.15 | valdyn | copper_: its not a big deal, log out and log in |
| 08:01.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | xingu, thanks, i'll put it on the list. |
| 08:01.25 | enouf | you don't want to do that, nor can you without modifying the kernel and other things |
| 08:01.29 | xingu | Kamping_Kaiser: in the hips space, take a look into snare |
| 08:01.33 | enouf | that would make it really insecure |
| 08:01.37 | copper_ | i think its a big deal. this is what happens when i boot |
| 08:01.48 | valdyn | copper_: thats more info |
| 08:02.01 | Mal3ko | enouf: just for iftop cmd only |
| 08:02.06 | enouf | Mal3ko: no |
| 08:02.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | xingu, ta. |
| 08:02.27 | valdyn | copper_: any more info than that? is that the complete error? |
| 08:02.50 | Mal3ko | its not like the commnd could give you access to root files etc |
| 08:02.51 | copper_ | hold on |
| 08:02.55 | copper_ | actually |
| 08:02.57 | copper_ | im restarting |
| 08:05.08 | valdyn | Mal3ko: do you also need to remove sudos password prompt? |
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| 08:05.55 | valdyn | Mal3ko: for that particular program |
| 08:05.57 | enouf | valdyn: he wants to disable the need for root privs to use iftop |
| 08:06.03 | Mal3ko | yes. just when executing iftop.. |
| 08:06.29 | enouf | AFAICT |
| 08:06.53 | enouf | [03:52:16] <Mal3ko> i wish to disable sudo for that cmd so users can run iftop w/o requireing root access |
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| 08:07.14 | enouf | sudo gives users limited root access - use it |
| 08:07.15 | valdyn | Mal3ko: make that command NOPASSWD by changing sudo config and create a shell script: "echo sudo /usr/sbin/iftop > /usr/local/bin/iftop" && chmod +x /usr/local/bin/iftop |
| 08:07.49 | enouf | that's stupid |
| 08:08.02 | Mal3ko | eh? |
| 08:08.41 | valdyn | or do it with alias |
| 08:09.12 | valdyn | Mal3ko: eh? refers to what? |
| 08:09.24 | Mal3ko | <enouf> that's stupid |
| 08:09.34 | enouf | 4 and 1/2 hours later .. still upgrading PingFloyd |
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| 08:13.05 | valdyn | !lastlog PingFloyd |
| 08:13.07 | valdyn | ops |
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| 08:15.27 | valdyn | !dconf |
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| 08:16.36 | copper_ | yeah same problem |
| 08:16.47 | copper_ | when i boot i get cant access tty; |
| 08:16.58 | copper_ | job access control turned off |
| 08:17.13 | valdyn | copper_: is that a custom kernel? |
| 08:17.17 | copper_ | mounting /dev/root on /foot failed |
| 08:17.23 | copper_ | no such devise |
| 08:17.31 | copper_ | no its totally stock kernel |
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| 08:17.49 | copper_ | mounting /dev on /root/dev failed no such device |
| 08:17.51 | copper_ | etc |
| 08:17.58 | copper_ | im in initramfs right now |
| 08:18.07 | valdyn | copper_: the precise error would be useful, not this mashup |
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| 08:18.54 | valdyn | copper_: you can find the actual root device in that busybox shell |
| 08:19.03 | valdyn | copper_: what you called "in initramfs" |
| 08:19.36 | copper_ | i dont know how to do that |
| 08:19.58 | valdyn | copper_: ok, step by step: how many harddisks are built in? |
| 08:20.06 | copper_ | 1 |
| 08:20.40 | valdyn | copper_: run "cat /proc/partitions", read what it lists |
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| 08:21.24 | copper_ | sda1,2,5 dm-0,1,2 |
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| 08:21.49 | valdyn | copper_: you have no idea what that dm* is? |
| 08:21.54 | copper_ | no |
| 08:21.57 | valdyn | copper_: are you using software raid or somesuch? |
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| 08:22.02 | copper_ | lvm |
| 08:22.38 | valdyn | copper_: when did you move to lvm? or did you do the install to lvm already? |
| 08:22.59 | copper_ | it was always lvm |
| 08:23.10 | valdyn | copper_: do you know the partition for /boot ? |
| 08:23.15 | copper_ | i just reformatted and reinstalled debian on the /root |
| 08:23.29 | copper_ | should be sda1 |
| 08:23.44 | valdyn | copper_: ok, write that down, or memorize it |
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| 08:23.47 | copper_ | ok |
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| 08:24.31 | valdyn | copper_: ls -l /dev/mapper, tell about the output |
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| 08:26.12 | copper_ | antec-home, antec-root, antec-swap_1, control |
| 08:26.15 | lewis2 | if I have a simple SQL statement selecting page_title, parent_id - how do I do a subselect and return the parent_id's page_title from another row in the table, all within the same statement? |
| 08:26.37 | valdyn | copper_: ok, good so the lvm stuff is started, |
| 08:26.48 | valdyn | copper_: what does /dev/root link to? |
| 08:27.19 | copper_ | how do i check that |
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| 08:27.27 | valdyn | copper_: ls -l /dev/root |
| 08:27.52 | copper_ | /dev/root |
| 08:28.07 | valdyn | copper_: not a link? |
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| 08:28.22 | valdyn | copper_: it should probably be like /dev/root -> dm-5 |
| 08:28.31 | copper_ | no thats all it says |
| 08:28.43 | valdyn | copper_: ok, then give me the major and minor numbers |
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| 08:29.02 | valdyn | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 253, 5 14. Mai 19:48 /dev/dm-5 |
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| 08:29.16 | valdyn | copper_: the 253 and the 5 are the major and minor |
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| 08:29.43 | copper_ | brw----- 1 0 0 253, 0 date time /dev/root |
| 08:30.00 | valdyn | copper_: good, same for /dev/mapper/antec-root |
| 08:31.10 | copper_ | brw-rw---- 1 0 6 254, 0 date time /dev/mapper/antec-root |
| 08:31.27 | DarkX | hello. i have a problem: My graphiccard and monitor support 1280x1024, but in debian i can oly use 800x600. I have used modelines and modes, xorg.conf: http://purecodes.org/paste/source.php?file=1242504818_none . Can u help me please? |
| 08:31.46 | enouf | use cvt |
| 08:31.55 | valdyn | copper_: is that a typo? it reads 254 where it should be 253 |
| 08:31.56 | copper_ | you know i think i may have specified a different host name on the new install |
| 08:31.57 | DarkX | how can i check which debian version i have? |
| 08:32.02 | copper_ | its not a typeo |
| 08:32.07 | enouf | !version |
| 08:32.08 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
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| 08:32.44 | valdyn | copper_: if its not a typo then its a fuckup, as 254 is the realtime clock |
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| 08:33.07 | g00se_ | lewis2: google on 'self-join' |
| 08:33.09 | DarkX | cat /etc/debian_version say 5.0.1, so i have the newest |
| 08:33.11 | copper_ | yea its not a typeo |
| 08:33.14 | DarkX | !switch to kdce |
| 08:33.17 | valdyn | copper_: mkdir /mnt, then try mounting |
| 08:33.26 | enouf | user date, group time? |
| 08:33.43 | valdyn | copper_: try mount -t ext3 /dev/root /mnt and also mount -t ext3 /dev/mapper/antec-root /mnt |
| 08:33.43 | DarkX | and how can i switch from gnome to kde because the gnome looks like win 98 and i like kde |
| 08:33.48 | DarkX | !kde |
| 08:33.48 | dpkg | well, kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Not a window manager. To get KDE, ask me about <install kde>. Ask your KDE questions in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net), see also <kde_trouble>. http://wiki.debian.org/KDE KDE-related IRC channels: http://wiki.kde.org/IRC+Channels |
| 08:34.10 | DarkX | !install kde |
| 08:34.10 | dpkg | The metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at the boot prompt of any of the installers. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall. See also <kde version>. |
| 08:34.15 | enouf | DarkX: /msg the bot ; /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 08:34.17 | enouf | STOP |
| 08:34.48 | enouf | !+tell Darkshit -about msgthebot |
| 08:34.49 | dpkg | told Darkshit about msgthebot. |
| 08:35.30 | DarkX | and how do i know which gnome version i have andwhats are the kde packages? |
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| 08:35.38 | copper_ | mounting /dev/root on /mnt failed no such device or address |
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| 08:35.54 | valdyn | copper_: and the 2nd command? |
| 08:35.56 | enouf | nobody cares |
| 08:36.02 | copper_ | the 2nd one took |
| 08:36.19 | valdyn | copper_: ls /mnt; df; see if it worked properly |
| 08:36.55 | copper_ | looks good to me |
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| 08:37.05 | valdyn | this is stunning me, i dont get where you have this dynamic major allocation from |
| 08:37.09 | copper_ | filesystem mounted on udev |
| 08:37.36 | valdyn | copper_: ok, fix is: when you boot, hit E to edit the grub boot menu entry, replace /dev/root with /dev/mapper/antec-root |
| 08:37.55 | copper_ | i dont have grub |
| 08:38.01 | enouf | haha |
| 08:38.03 | copper_ | it only gave me the option to install lilo |
| 08:38.05 | valdyn | copper_: what do you have then? |
| 08:38.15 | enouf | i bet it's also dmraid |
| 08:38.26 | valdyn | copper_: ok, this is possible in lilo too |
| 08:38.36 | valdyn | copper_: i think you have to hit tab in lilo |
| 08:38.45 | copper_ | i know grub but not lilo |
| 08:38.56 | copper_ | i wish it would have given me the option to install grub |
| 08:39.06 | enouf | you didn |
| 08:39.25 | enouf | 't put /boot on non-lvm |
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| 08:40.11 | copper_ | the installer did everything for me |
| 08:40.28 | enouf | checks the dist-upgrade oven |
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| 08:41.04 | valdyn | copper_: at the lilo: prompt you hit tab to get the available boot selections, should be "linux", if it is "linux", you type : linux root=/dev/mapper/antec-root |
| 08:41.07 | copper_ | valdyn |
| 08:41.15 | copper_ | tab at boot? |
| 08:41.40 | valdyn | copper_: which part is unclear? |
| 08:41.53 | copper_ | got it |
| 08:42.02 | copper_ | im at a boot: prompt |
| 08:42.05 | enouf | awaiting input from me .. to see if i wanted /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist altered to new version ... are you nuts!? NO f'n way |
| 08:42.26 | valdyn | copper_: ok, i havent used lilo for a decade... |
| 08:42.32 | copper_ | ive never used it |
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| 08:42.52 | valdyn | enouf: he has dmraid? |
| 08:42.54 | enouf | so much for educating oneseld |
| 08:42.58 | valdyn | enouf: lvm on dmraid? |
| 08:43.02 | enouf | valdyn: not sure |
| 08:43.12 | enouf | possible - as you seen |
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| 08:43.26 | valdyn | how the hell can his lvm have major 254 |
| 08:43.31 | enouf | he has dm- devices in /proc/partitions, i know that |
| 08:43.51 | enouf | s either mdadm, lvm , and/or possible dmraid |
| 08:43.53 | valdyn | enouf: we didnt count those, it can be just his lvm |
| 08:44.26 | enouf | valdyn: [04:29:13] <enouf> user date, group time? |
| 08:44.53 | enouf | <copper_> brw-rw---- 1 0 6 254, 0 date time /dev/mapper/antec-root |
| 08:44.55 | enouf | <copper_> brw----- 1 0 0 253, 0 date time /dev/root |
| 08:45.09 | enouf | he's also missing r and w for group |
| 08:45.18 | enouf | on one there |
| 08:45.32 | morficus_ | agaran, if you are refering to my constat disconnect.... it was due to a shitty I-net conection.... not lack of screen usage |
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| 08:46.10 | valdyn | enouf: its his rtc |
| 08:46.20 | valdyn | enouf: or its nothing at all at that point |
| 08:46.43 | enouf | valdyn: i think he reinstalled debian, but also has /home on a separate partition - unknown if it was once part of LVM or whatever |
| 08:47.05 | valdyn | user,group is just 1 0 |
| 08:47.10 | copper_ | thats right enouf |
| 08:47.12 | valdyn | err, 0 0 |
| 08:47.27 | valdyn | copper_: does it boot properly now? |
| 08:47.32 | copper_ | no |
| 08:47.46 | creature_ | is there a tool that makes modifying gtk themes easier? |
| 08:47.46 | copper_ | but ive done nothiing to lilo so far |
| 08:47.57 | valdyn | copper_: sure, you need to use that lilo line |
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| 08:48.10 | valdyn | copper_: which is hopefully everything needed to boot |
| 08:48.11 | copper_ | so i type it at the boot prompt? |
| 08:48.18 | enouf | oh you mean you edited the date and time output and replaced it with date and time? hahahaha .. i see .. what a fucken dump |
| 08:48.18 | valdyn | copper_: yes |
| 08:48.20 | copper_ | ok |
| 08:48.29 | mozzz | sorry for the off topic, does anybody if it exists a times new roman opentype font and if it is free available? |
| 08:48.35 | valdyn | enouf: he cant cut and paste |
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| 08:49.02 | Bert_2 | Hi, I have a command line account on a german server, I'd like to set my account to english, how do I do that ? |
| 08:49.09 | enouf | valdyn: then why is the spacing correct? |
| 08:49.10 | mozzz | ops, sorry, I forgot to say that I meant Unicode |
| 08:49.27 | enouf | or close ... |
| 08:49.30 | copper_ | loading linux.................. |
| 08:49.45 | valdyn | enouf: doesnt know what i need and what not and trying to be accurate |
| 08:50.05 | copper_ | nothing but a black screen |
| 08:50.07 | enouf | ok .. me recedes into the woodwork |
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| 08:51.08 | valdyn | copper_: quiet is probably the default, so theres no text on screen.. nothing happening? |
| 08:51.25 | copper_ | i have an orange led. like nothing is even connected to the monitor |
| 08:51.35 | copper_ | no sync |
| 08:51.55 | valdyn | copper_: damn, i wish you didnt have lilo |
| 08:52.01 | copper_ | ditto |
| 08:52.20 | valdyn | copper_: roll back to where we started, mount your /dev/mapper/root-antec again, read /etc/lilo.conf |
| 08:52.26 | valdyn | copper_: roll back to where we started, mount your /dev/mapper/root-antec again, read /mnt/etc/lilo.conf |
| 08:52.29 | copper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.35 | copper_ | i have a black screen |
| 08:52.42 | valdyn | copper_: so reboot, no big deal |
| 08:53.25 | copper_ | rebooting |
| 08:54.23 | Bert_2 | How do I list all pakacges starting with for example "php5-" ? |
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| 08:55.40 | valdyn | copper_: you probably need to use something like: linux root=/dev/mapper/antec-root initrd=foo |
| 08:55.41 | creature_ | is there a tool to modify gtk themes? |
| 08:55.56 | valdyn | copper_: the value for initrd you should see in /mnt/etc/lilo.conf |
| 08:56.40 | valdyn | copper_: but if that doesnt work, you should probably reinstall, as to not waste that much time... |
| 08:57.14 | enouf | Bert_2: installed? or available? /msg dpkg reference |
| 08:57.16 | copper_ | cannot read /etc/fstab no such file or directoru |
| 08:57.19 | copper_ | when i try to mount |
| 08:57.42 | copper_ | this IS my reinstall |
| 08:57.44 | mischief6 | Bert_2, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
| 08:57.47 | Bert_2 | enouf: available, but I used aptitude search php5 because no one replied |
| 08:57.48 | enouf | !+tell creature_ -about search |
| 08:57.48 | dpkg | told creature_ about search. |
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| 08:58.08 | creature_ | i don't know how to search this shit |
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| 08:58.44 | enouf | apt-get update ; apt-cache show --names-only php5 |
| 08:58.49 | copper_ | oh |
| 08:58.51 | Bert_2 | And no one here knows how the change the language of one command line user |
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| 08:59.01 | copper_ | got it |
| 08:59.07 | Supaplex | Bert_2: locales |
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| 08:59.59 | enouf | Bert_2: loadkeys, and/or a ~/, dotfile that does that for them |
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| 09:00.39 | Bert_2 | enouf: what's the name of the file .local .locale .locales ? |
| 09:01.00 | Bert_2 | (man page of locale isn't very comprehensive |
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| 09:01.53 | enouf | 5 hours PingFloyd and going strong |
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| 09:03.09 | rosmatic | guys , how can a define ftp repo username and a password for apt ? |
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| 09:04.51 | nkuttler | Bert_2: i like to simply set the environment variables, seem man locale |
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| 09:05.49 | copper_ | VALDYN |
| 09:06.00 | copper_ | i specified initrd in lilo this time and it worked |
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| 09:06.09 | copper_ | how do i make this permanant though? |
| 09:06.27 | Bert_2 | nkuttler: I added export LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and some other export stuff to .bashrc and now it seems to work :D |
| 09:06.29 | nkuttler | copper_: you edit the lilo config |
| 09:06.38 | enouf | just add the proper line in LiLo |
| 09:06.54 | nkuttler | copper_: oh, and run lilo after that. and use grub :) |
| 09:07.22 | copper_ | i hate lilo |
| 09:07.37 | copper_ | the debian installer gave me no grub option |
| 09:07.41 | copper_ | only lilo |
| 09:07.41 | nkuttler | ? |
| 09:07.49 | Supaplex | if the ip address is not configured on an interface, and it's directed at the mac address of the interface, and forwarding is permitted by sysctl (proc) and iptables, why are connections be reset? |
| 09:07.52 | nkuttler | which installer? which arch? |
| 09:08.11 | valdyn | copper_: edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo as root |
| 09:08.18 | copper_ | i downloaded the lenny netinst cd like 2 hours ago |
| 09:08.22 | Supaplex | tcpdump shows the mac address owned by the nic on the box is generating the tcp reset, however I want them to be forwarded. |
| 09:08.23 | copper_ | x86 |
| 09:08.44 | valdyn | copper_: this is because of your disk/partition layout |
| 09:08.50 | rosmatic | ah , thanks found it :) |
| 09:08.53 | copper_ | what do you mean run lilo as root? |
| 09:08.58 | copper_ | /sbin/lilo? |
| 09:09.02 | valdyn | copper_: yes |
| 09:09.04 | copper_ | ok |
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| 09:09.45 | valdyn | copper_: i think your /boot isnt really on sda1 |
| 09:10.07 | xingu | Supaplex: that'd be bridging, rather than routing you're after. |
| 09:10.08 | valdyn | copper_: but on antec-root as / |
| 09:10.16 | valdyn | copper_: grub could not boot that |
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| 09:11.27 | copper_ | here is what i did |
| 09:11.40 | copper_ | i downloaded the new 5.0 install cd |
| 09:11.54 | copper_ | installed it only to my / partiton |
| 09:11.55 | enouf | copper_: [04:34:54] <enouf> you didn |
| 09:11.56 | enouf | [04:35:12] <enouf> 't put /boot on non-lvm |
| 09:12.01 | copper_ | i had lvm before |
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| 09:12.15 | copper_ | do i formatted sda1 which was / |
| 09:12.18 | enouf | which is why grub wasn't an option |
| 09:12.20 | copper_ | and reinstalled there |
| 09:12.26 | copper_ | and grub was never an option |
| 09:12.51 | valdyn | copper_: grub was not an option because /boot was on antec-root, which is not a partition. |
| 09:12.53 | enouf | i guess it wouldn't even work IF I USED FUCKEN CAPS |
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| 09:13.07 | valdyn | ehe |
| 09:13.14 | mischief6 | does anyone know where i can find compressed copied of debian manuals? such as http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ? |
| 09:13.23 | copper_ | what was it? a logical volume? |
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| 09:13.34 | valdyn | copper_: its a logical volume, yes |
| 09:13.54 | copper_ | but dont partitions exist on logical volumes? |
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| 09:14.04 | enouf | it';s not |
| 09:14.05 | valdyn | copper_: grub cannot read logical volumes |
| 09:14.11 | copper_ | oh |
| 09:14.18 | enouf | it's Logical Volume Mangler |
| 09:14.23 | copper_ | lol |
| 09:14.29 | valdyn | copper_: creating partitions inside logical volumes is possible but that would be stupid |
| 09:14.32 | enouf | not MPOOP style Ext'd + Logical |
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| 09:14.50 | valdyn | copper_: grub needs a driver for whatever it reads, it has one for partitions, it doesnt have one for lvm |
| 09:15.09 | enouf | grub2 supposedly overcomes that limitation |
| 09:15.20 | valdyn | copper_: lilo is just stupid and refers any file simply by its location on disk, which is fragile, but works for you |
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| 09:15.36 | valdyn | oh, it does |
| 09:15.56 | copper_ | i love #debian |
| 09:16.00 | valdyn | grub2 can probably already boot off lvm on raid5 |
| 09:16.13 | valdyn | i use it to boot off lvm on raid1 |
| 09:16.28 | enouf | nice |
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| 09:16.44 | chomwitt | hi. i have installed freeciv. i downloaded the svn tree and compiled it. Can i installed it also or will overwright my game? |
| 09:16.55 | valdyn | i see 94 drivers for grub2 |
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| 09:17.12 | enouf | modules! :-p |
| 09:17.13 | valdyn | it can boot from ntfs it seems |
| 09:17.17 | valdyn | yea, same thing |
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| 09:17.57 | valdyn | or pxe or xfs and indeed raid5 and 6 |
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| 09:18.46 | valdyn | no ext4 yet though |
| 09:18.49 | enouf | or even emulation boot |
| 09:19.02 | flaccid | my syslog timestamp is -12hours out. why is this and how can i fix it? |
| 09:19.58 | enouf | rsyslog |
| 09:20.03 | enouf | !rsyslog |
| 09:20.03 | dpkg | i guess rsyslog is an enhanced <syslog> daemon. With stock logging rules, it can be used as a drop-in sysklogd replacement. rsyslog is the default kernel/system log daemon in Lenny, but is not installed when upgrading from Etch (ref. section 2.2 of the <lenny release notes>). http://www.rsyslog.com/ |
| 09:20.14 | valdyn | one day ill run my X Server from grub2 and forget about linux... |
| 09:20.39 | flaccid | enouf do you know what in particular with rsyslog ? |
| 09:20.52 | enouf | one day the xserver will be in the kernel and we can all forget about Bloated DEs |
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| 09:21.07 | enouf | flaccid: no |
| 09:21.14 | copper_ | everything is working great now guys thank you so much |
| 09:21.15 | flaccid | right |
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| 09:24.19 | enouf | flaccid: look at /etc/default/*sys*log* files ; /etc/*syslog.conf ; and /msg dpkg set the time |
| 09:24.57 | flaccid | yeah the time is set correctly and syslog is default and seems fine |
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| 09:25.40 | mischief6 | hey can anyone tell me what this kernel panic means @ boot: not syncing, VFS: unable to mount root fs |
| 09:28.24 | Supaplex | mischief6: kernel doesn't know what root file system you want, and the one it possibly tried didn't work. |
| 09:28.51 | Supaplex | !tell mischief6 -about rescue |
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| 09:29.41 | faffi | how would i change which of my wifi cards (if i have 2 connected to two different aps) gets preference over the other one |
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| 09:31.20 | DarkX | i must reinstall debian, because i have installed kde and uninstall gnome, then xserver wont start. How can i install kde 4.1 in german? |
| 09:31.24 | enouf | w00h00 .. another one; Total disk space freed by localepurge: 81258K |
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| 09:32.17 | enouf | !+tell mischief6 about can't mount root |
| 09:32.17 | dpkg | told mischief6 about can't mount root (If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd) |
| 09:32.50 | DarkX | can u help me with my problem? |
| 09:32.57 | mischief6 | enouf, yeah, i just realized i forgot --initrd :\ |
| 09:33.18 | enouf | !try |
| 09:33.19 | dpkg | it has been said that try is "<reply> Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try." |
| 09:33.24 | enouf | ;-) |
| 09:33.39 | DarkX | !what |
| 09:33.39 | dpkg | This! |
| 09:33.58 | DarkX | !ok |
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| 09:35.14 | DarkX | noone can help? |
| 09:35.21 | DarkX | !switch to kde |
| 09:35.26 | DarkX | !kde 4.1 |
| 09:35.33 | DarkX | !kde4.1 |
| 09:35.36 | DarkX | !kde4 |
| 09:35.36 | dpkg | kde4 is a the lastest version of the KDE desktop. It was not released with Lenny but backports of KDE 4.1 are available from http://kde4.debian.net/ KDE 4.2 should start to appear in unstable soon, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2009/03/msg00072.html <Experimental> packages are available at http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html but ask about these in #debian-kde (on irc.debian.org), not #debian. See <kde version>. |
| 09:35.39 | enouf | MSGTHEBOT! |
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| 09:35.59 | DarkX | yeah i know |
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| 09:36.24 | enouf | farts in DarkX 's general direction |
| 09:36.33 | enouf | slaps DarkX around with a huge petrified coelacanth |
| 09:36.45 | DarkX | ^_^ |
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| 09:41.41 | DarkX | can u help me with my problem |
| 09:41.50 | mischief6 | !problem |
| 09:41.50 | dpkg | problem is probably something that can be solved, fixed or worked around if properly described. A good thorough description of the problem, with detailed steps of how to reproduce the problem, the produced output, and the expected output, is the best start to discuss a problem. |
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| 09:47.40 | pyrohotdog | Which packages should I install for a Radeon Mobility M6 LY...? |
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| 09:48.31 | DarkX | can u help me with my problem |
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| 09:49.34 | pyrohotdog | What problem is that.../ |
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| 09:50.48 | cemunal | is this channel official? |
| 09:50.49 | DarkX | i want to install kde 4.2 in german, but i have uninstalled gnome than installed kde bu tthen xserver not started |
| 09:51.00 | mischief6 | cemunal, yes. |
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| 09:51.48 | cemunal | mischief6, what abount the channel wihich is in irc.debian.org server? |
| 09:51.55 | cemunal | *about |
| 09:52.03 | cemunal | *which |
| 09:52.28 | mischief6 | cemunal, what channel, #debian? |
| 09:52.56 | cemunal | mischief6, yes |
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| 09:53.17 | mischief6 | cemunal, i'd imagine it's 'official', don't see why not. what's your meaning of official? |
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| 09:55.41 | ^Ryan | does anyone know how to connect to sbnc on debian |
| 09:55.53 | cemunal | mischief6, i mean; what is the disparty between two channel? |
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| 09:58.37 | anoHito | what does this mean scsi_eh1 , i see this in the command list when i run top |
| 09:58.54 | Guerin | MrWax: why are you trying to imagine something which is readily verifiable? |
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| 09:59.00 | valdyn | anoHito: the linux kernel has internal threading, thats one thread |
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| 09:59.34 | Guerin | this channel used to be official, but certain amongst the debian hierarchy decided we were bastards and the project moved its official channel to irc.oftc.org |
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| 09:59.47 | Guerin | !fable |
| 09:59.48 | dpkg | http://wiki.debian.org/TheFable? |
| 09:59.56 | Guerin | you can read about it there ^ |
| 10:01.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | hehe |
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| 10:03.01 | xingu | Guerin: it's a wise chanop that knows their own father? |
| 10:03.44 | Guerin | xingu: yes, where are the herrings of mauritius, with extra silicon? |
| 10:04.23 | Guerin | (this being a roundabout hashdweebian way of saying "I have no fucking idea what you mean.") |
| 10:04.53 | simonrvn | !confuse Guerin |
| 10:04.53 | dpkg | No, how are your pants yesterday, Guerin? Lederhosen of the Monarchy of Swaziland with extra crabpaste. |
| 10:05.08 | Guerin | Lederhosen und crabpaste! |
| 10:05.21 | anoHito | valdyn, i cannot believe it ,the HDD was nearly done that is why i ordered a new hdd and it has jsut arrived to the datacentre |
| 10:05.47 | anoHito | valdyn, but the datacentre shutdown the server without a proper shutting down again without telling me in advance |
| 10:06.12 | anoHito | now the server is very very slow and i have shut down all workloads such as apache mysql and such but sitll the disk IO is very very high |
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| 10:06.30 | simonrvn | good luck with that |
| 10:06.35 | anoHito | i cannot believe it such guys who are so fucking lacking of basic knowledges can be sent and work in a datacnetre. |
| 10:06.40 | valdyn | anoHito: ext3 filesystem? |
| 10:06.46 | xingu | Guerin: "bunch of bastards" |
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| 10:07.47 | valdyn | anoHito: xfs does some kind of fsck at mount time, which can make it very slow for a while |
| 10:07.54 | jaggz- | I'm using KDE. The recording doesn't work. It works in Audacity though, which is setup to use ALSA |
| 10:07.57 | xingu | anoHito: it's a self-selecting screen; if you're capable of being more than drooling meat who perhaps occasionally answers a phone, you don't stay working in a datacenter for long. |
| 10:08.04 | jaggz- | but KDE's recording things aren't picking up sound |
| 10:08.26 | Guerin | xingu: ah, roight. |
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| 10:08.45 | xingu | anoHito: although having said that the way unemployment metrics are spiking at the moment, economic darwinism will address some of the slack-jawery |
| 10:09.12 | jaggz- | what in the world... "Run with the highest possible priority" was on in the Sound System control center |
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| 10:10.07 | initmax | hi all, who is install GPRS connect Nokia 6120 + Debian ? |
| 10:10.09 | anoHito | how do i ciompletey shut the server down ? |
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| 10:10.25 | anoHito | valdyn, XFS |
| 10:10.31 | valdyn | anoHito: let it run |
| 10:10.44 | valdyn | anoHito: stop services, let the mount finish |
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| 10:12.00 | anoHito | valdyn, you meant that scsi_eh_1 and ATA 0/0 command are found in |
| 10:12.02 | anoHito | top |
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| 10:12.15 | anoHito | both of them are realated to XFS mounting thing ? |
| 10:12.16 | valdyn | anoHito: what about it? |
| 10:12.26 | valdyn | anoHito: related, sure |
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| 10:12.45 | anoHito | valdyn, i did NOT have this problem right BEFORE that unproper shutting down from the datacentre. |
| 10:13.01 | anoHito | i cannot believe it they could do that , i am very angry. |
| 10:13.32 | valdyn | anoHito: when xfs is shut down improperly it may automagically run something like fsck internally, when you mount it |
| 10:13.38 | valdyn | anoHito: thats fine, let it run |
| 10:13.55 | jaggz- | initmax: I don't have that phone, but I used bluetooth... rfbind and p3nfsd to mount my phone's filesystems. |
| 10:14.08 | anoHito | valdyn, I see |
| 10:14.20 | valdyn | anoHito: its a great feature actually |
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| 10:14.38 | valdyn | anoHito: sure its the datacenters idiots faults however |
| 10:15.07 | initmax | jaggz-: I use USB cable, phone modem detect but GPRS connect do not work |
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| 10:15.53 | anoHito | valdyn, i am sorry that i talked dirty words, i am so angry now. |
| 10:17.00 | anoHito | i ran shutdown -h now, after it gets back to command line, i can still run commands,strange |
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| 10:17.23 | jaggz- | I'm not experienced in it, initmax, maybe search the web or ask in here when more people are awake / online |
| 10:17.32 | valdyn | anoHito: shutdown just emits a signal |
| 10:17.38 | anoHito | valdyn, now i run top, i can see this 15 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 1 0.0 0:00.28 ata/1 |
| 10:17.41 | valdyn | anoHito: it doesnt shut down |
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| 10:17.47 | jaggz- | it seems to be busier here in U.S. daylight |
| 10:17.57 | Trewas | initmax: I have used that phone and gprs, at least when connected with usb setting up wvdial was quite easy |
| 10:18.00 | valdyn | anoHito: init shuts you down |
| 10:18.09 | anoHito | valdyn, init 0 ? |
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| 10:18.33 | anoHito | sometimes with init 0 it does not work as we expect though. |
| 10:18.56 | valdyn | anoHito: you shouldnt shut it down at all while xfs checker is running |
| 10:19.22 | anoHito | valdyn, too late, ssh is disconencted, i ran shutdown -h now. |
| 10:19.27 | valdyn | anoHito: it would have to recheck, and it probably will not just abort and umount |
| 10:19.39 | anoHito | valdyn, now i need to call the datacentre to power on my server ? |
| 10:19.49 | valdyn | anoHito: this was stupid |
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| 10:20.07 | valdyn | anoHito: now you dont even know if it powered down already and the datacenter may fuck up more |
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| 10:20.38 | valdyn | anoHito: should have used shutdown -r anyway |
| 10:20.54 | anoHito | because he was telling to check if the cable is unstuck to the HDD ,because he was trying to replace the HDD with the new one then i stopped him cuz i have files needed to download. |
| 10:20.55 | pyrohotdog | Can anyone assist with configuring my radeon? aticonfig --initial gives me a segfault. |
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| 10:21.16 | anoHito | i thought shutdown -r means reboot |
| 10:21.53 | valdyn | anoHito: you need to have that guy check that it already shut down proper now |
| 10:22.28 | anoHito | should it be ? i just ran shutdown -h now. |
| 10:22.40 | valdyn | anoHito: we cant know this |
| 10:22.52 | anoHito | I see. |
| 10:23.17 | valdyn | anoHito: lets say that xfs unmount takes half an hour -> you cant know |
| 10:23.29 | valdyn | anoHito: but you would at least want to know that its stuck at that point |
| 10:23.54 | valdyn | anoHito: its likely that everything is ok, but not certain |
| 10:23.57 | anoHito | valdyn, the ata 0/0 or ata 1/0 and scsi_eh_1 commands are found in 'top' means the fsck operations ,now i see,that is why there is no apache nor mysql running but still the disk IO very high,hence the load ave is very high. |
| 10:23.57 | omid8bimo | guys, what set -E will do? there nothing in the man |
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| 10:25.37 | anoHito | valdyn, you mean even after logged in ssh,the server is still doing fsck ? |
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| 10:26.00 | anoHito | because i was in 'top' to get to view those scsi_eh_1 and ata 0/0 thing . |
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| 10:26.13 | valdyn | anoHito: no, i mean you need to know about it |
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| 10:27.46 | valdyn | anoHito: those threads just mean they are running, they could aswell be caused by apache or whatever |
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| 10:29.33 | DarkX | now i have kde and gnome on pc, how do i remove gnome that i am using onlyx kde (i have installed kde with apt-get install kde kdm) |
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| 10:29.54 | valdyn | DarkX: only removing kde does not require removing gnome |
| 10:30.00 | anoHito | valdyn, I see. |
| 10:30.02 | valdyn | DarkX: only *using* kde does not require removing gnome |
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| 10:30.23 | DarkX | iwant onyl kde |
| 10:30.32 | DarkX | not the gnome programs |
| 10:30.42 | anoHito | valdyn, i thought the fsck thing is done before we get to the root command line interface. |
| 10:30.51 | valdyn | anoHito: its not an fsck program |
| 10:30.54 | DarkX | aptitude remove gnome gdm ?= |
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| 10:31.05 | valdyn | anoHito: its an xfs internal thing, done by the xfs kernel driver |
| 10:31.07 | anoHito | valdyn, oh ? |
| 10:31.13 | anoHito | I see. |
| 10:31.38 | valdyn | anoHito: enables you to already use the filesystem even though it has possible breakage |
| 10:31.47 | valdyn | anoHito: but it also makes it slow |
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| 10:32.09 | anoHito | hmm but usually what files it will check ? i wonder how long it takes |
| 10:32.24 | valdyn | anoHito: not very long usually |
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| 10:33.20 | mischief6 | i am in /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.3 building a kernel, but i came up with this error: "dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)" anyone know why that is a problem? |
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| 10:34.17 | anoHito | valdyn, okay, i am waiting. |
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| 10:37.10 | DarkX | aptitude remove gnome gdm is finished what shoukd i do next? |
| 10:37.28 | rosmatic | mischief6, simply set the permission 0755 on the control directory |
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| 10:38.07 | mischief6 | rosmatic, which would be /usr/src/ or /usr/src/linux-2.6.29.3 ? |
| 10:38.18 | mischief6 | i am not sure what directory it is complaining about |
| 10:39.35 | anoHito | valdyn, load average: 60.94, 41.82, 27.05 |
| 10:39.42 | anoHito | no apache,no mysql. |
| 10:39.51 | anoHito | thinking its doing what you told. |
| 10:40.08 | anoHito | Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 24.6%id, 75.4%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st |
| 10:40.15 | anoHito | the wa value is bloody high. |
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| 10:40.41 | anoHito | poor my HDD, it is nearly end her life ,but still suffered the unproper shuttingdown again. :( |
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| 10:41.28 | mischief6 | rosmatic, i think i got it, let's see if it works :) |
| 10:42.30 | rosmatic | mischief6, good luck |
| 10:43.00 | mischief6 | rosmatic, thanks. i compiled about an hour ago but i forgot --initrd! :( |
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| 10:47.05 | mischief6 | arg! it still says permissions are incorrect. |
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| 10:50.28 | anoHito | strange ,i can not kill httpd |
| 10:50.44 | anoHito | after i /etc/init.d/httpd stop, then killall httpd, it comes back . |
| 10:51.42 | schatan | i installed debian testing lxde now i want to print in pdf so i installed cups-pdf and cupsys but there is no pdf printer |
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| 10:52.31 | valdyn | schatan: have you restartd cupsys? |
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| 10:53.08 | benschwarz | hey folks |
| 10:53.29 | schatan | valdyn, yes i restarted cups there is no cupsys in init.d |
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| 10:53.41 | schatan | but also i rebooted |
| 10:53.44 | benschwarz | I have an unstable source in my sources.list and while doing an apt-get upgrade I get a huge list of packages that will be "left back" what does this mean and how can I upgrade them> |
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| 10:53.47 | schatan | so thats not the point |
| 10:55.19 | schatan | i go adding the printer give him a name and then i see my printer / network printers / ... but no pdf printer |
| 10:56.08 | schatan | i checked the rights in /usr/lib/cups/backen../cup.. |
| 10:56.17 | schatan | all are right set |
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| 10:57.37 | lewis2 | how can I only push something to a php array if it is unique? |
| 10:58.02 | JPT | define "unique" |
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| 10:58.43 | lewis2 | well, it is a multidimensional array with no indexs |
| 10:58.47 | lewis2 | indexes... |
| 10:58.52 | lvh_ | lewis2: move to python and use sets? :-p |
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| 10:59.21 | lewis2 | bah |
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| 11:00.49 | mischief6 | ugh, my kernel still won't boot! :( |
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| 11:02.09 | mischief6 | for some reason when i installed my custom kernel package, it did not put a 'initrd' line on grub's menu.lst |
| 11:02.13 | mischief6 | annoying :\ |
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| 11:05.18 | benschwarz | why are my packages being "kept back"? |
| 11:05.26 | valdyn | !kept back |
| 11:05.30 | valdyn | !held back |
| 11:05.34 | valdyn | !test |
| 11:05.48 | valdyn | benschwarz: check the faq |
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| 11:09.00 | anoHito | server is so slow |
| 11:09.08 | anoHito | the %util is 100 all the time |
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| 11:09.42 | anoHito | await is mostly 0 |
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| 11:10.31 | anoHito | valdyn, the XFS kernel task will check all the client dats or its own files ? |
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| 11:11.22 | RRockon | Hey folks |
| 11:11.37 | RRockon | I was just curious if there's an inverse version of the uptime application |
| 11:11.46 | valdyn | anoHito: it checks the filesystem |
| 11:11.51 | RRockon | which responds with the total amount of downtime since a certain point |
| 11:12.07 | mETz | RRockon: should be possible to extract from the output of "last" |
| 11:12.25 | mETz | don't know about a tool called "downtime" :) |
| 11:12.42 | mETz | that's hardly debian specific though |
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| 11:13.04 | RRockon | heh I actually searched the cache for downtime and the only thing it came back with was a Redhat resource manager :P |
| 11:13.25 | RRockon | made me lol |
| 11:13.30 | neocontra | I need help connecting a laptop with an Atheros wlan card to a WPA enabled network. I've tried using network-admin, but it can't execute the binary file, and I tried using the network settings GUI in the administrative menu, but I can't connect. |
| 11:13.39 | mETz | What should a packager targetting lenny do if he needs deps from sid? |
| 11:14.08 | mETz | more specifically, I need a few perl modules that install just fine on sid but I don't know if I should simply copy them into my repo |
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| 11:14.29 | mETz | err, I mean perl modules from sid that install fine on lenny |
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| 11:14.52 | anoHito | valdyn, very high load, still seeing scsi_eh_1 and ata 0/0 |
| 11:14.56 | anoHito | load 35. |
| 11:15.24 | RRockon | Ah well, just curious |
| 11:15.30 | mischief6 | okay, why don't i have an initrd image even thougn i passed --initrd to make-kpkg? |
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| 11:24.33 | twinkie_addict | hi |
| 11:26.18 | SOUL_OF_R00T | good morning to everybody and nice day to all :) |
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| 11:26.43 | twinkie_addict | to you as well :) |
| 11:26.58 | SOUL_OF_R00T | tks.... |
| 11:29.16 | anoHito | valdyn, it seems it has already taken 1 hour ,still not finished. |
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| 11:29.38 | anoHito | valdyn, it is ata/1 now, it was ata 0/0 |
| 11:30.14 | valdyn | anoHito: i have no idea how to tell when it will be finished |
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| 11:39.05 | hphubert | hi |
| 11:39.39 | hphubert | i ' m from poland and i want translate debian with english to polish. What should i do? |
| 11:39.55 | hphubert | i get me to mailing list on http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-polish/ |
| 11:40.46 | hphubert | may i wait for e-mails?? |
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| 11:41.53 | benschwarz | valdyn: which faq? |
| 11:42.00 | hphubert | Would someone answer me? |
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| 11:42.40 | Polarina | hphubert: Be patient. |
| 11:42.50 | mETz | it's sunday in most parts of the world, that usually lessens the probability of getting an answer ;) |
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| 11:43.14 | hphubert | ok |
| 11:43.35 | hid3 | Is there any tool to do a 'diff' between two files but in HEX? |
| 11:43.37 | header | a2 getting a source code |
| 11:43.46 | iamcool | when is the next version of debian coming ? |
| 11:43.57 | avtobiff | iamcool, when it is done |
| 11:44.01 | Polarina | hid3: Yes. |
| 11:44.23 | hid3 | Polarina: maybe you accidently know one? |
| 11:44.31 | mETz | hphubert: I think subscribing to that list and sending a friendly "hi, I'm here to help" mail might be enough to get you going |
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| 11:44.56 | mETz | don't know anything about translations for debian though so I'm only guessing here |
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| 11:45.00 | Polarina | hid3: hexdump -C < input1 > tmp1; hexdump -C < input2 > tmp2; diff -u input1 input2 |
| 11:45.14 | Polarina | hid3: Ups. |
| 11:45.31 | Polarina | hid3: hexdump -C < input1 > tmp1; hexdump -C < input2 > tmp2; diff -u tmp1 tmp2; rm tmp1 tmp2 |
| 11:45.32 | mETz | heads back to his 2626rd reinstall of a clean lenny-x64 |
| 11:45.45 | hid3 | uh, so simple. Thanks! |
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| 11:47.24 | babbage | I keep getting errors like "Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package." on Lenny. What's broken? |
| 11:47.44 | babbage | (the message is from apt-get install, of course) |
| 11:47.56 | ArtVandalae | babbage, do you have the correct repo available? I think unrar is non-free |
| 11:48.17 | avtobiff | babbage, it is probably referring to unrar-free |
| 11:48.35 | avtobiff | and as ArtVandalae says, unrar is non-free |
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| 11:49.12 | babbage | I get the same message for unrar-free, and for some other packages too. |
| 11:50.43 | mETz | probably missing non-free in sources.list |
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| 12:01.43 | rapha | Hi again! :) |
| 12:01.52 | rapha | How do I change the "desired" flag of a package? |
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| 12:03.41 | neocontra | I need help configuring a wlan0 connection for an Atheros NIC. I can't get my wlan0 to recognize any WAPs when scanning, and I have the proper modules loaded. I also can't connect via LAN (eth0) connection. |
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| 12:04.35 | Stim_Jim | be my pupil. http://invaderjim.mybrute.com its a fun litle flash game. |
| 12:04.44 | twinkie_addict | have you tryed wifi-radar ? |
| 12:05.03 | neocontra | no |
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| 12:05.41 | twinkie_addict | thats helped alot with my atheros card as far your eth0 not shure |
| 12:05.46 | neocontra | command not found? |
| 12:05.58 | twinkie_addict | install it :) |
| 12:06.08 | neocontra | how? |
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| 12:06.52 | twinkie_addict | apt-get install wifi-radar |
| 12:07.25 | neocontra | couldn't find package |
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| 12:07.47 | twinkie_addict | or copy the deb over from another box and use dpkg |
| 12:08.09 | twinkie_addict | try google |
| 12:08.12 | neocontra | lol |
| 12:08.34 | twinkie_addict | i know wifiradar is avalible for debian just dont remember where i got it from |
| 12:08.46 | neocontra | considering I'm not connected on that box, it would be hard to apt-get a package I don't have |
| 12:09.43 | twinkie_addict | like i sead you could also get the the deb and put one a usb stick or what ever copy to the debian install and use dpkg |
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| 12:10.34 | lamit | Hello! I set up a tftp server and bootet the debian lenny installer through the net. The installation worked find, but I can not get lenny to boot. After "GRUB Loading stage1.5" my computer reboots. I tried to reinstall grub using the recovery mode, but the recovery mode claims that it cannot find any partitions!? I started the shell in installer environment and fdisk showed 1 partition on /dev/hda1 |
| 12:10.53 | lamit | on /dev/hda |
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| 12:11.36 | lamit | Does anybody know how to fix the problem? |
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| 12:14.01 | seriouslycgi | im wanting to share a partition with a windows dual boot (cringe) but i need to know if debian lenny comes with ntfs support (read and write) out of the box. |
| 12:14.16 | abrotman | !ntfs-3g |
| 12:14.17 | dpkg | ntfs-3g is probably a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. It is available in Lenny, or through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org> for instructions and see http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g). Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 12:14.30 | abrotman | judd: versions ntfs-3g |
| 12:14.31 | judd | abrotman: ntfs-3g -- etch-backports: 1:1.2531-1.1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1:1.2531-1.1 sid: 1:2009.4.4-1 squeeze: 1:2009.4.4-1 |
| 12:15.06 | seriouslycgi | abrotman, thanks for that, i was reading somewhere about modules to install it have you installed the package? |
| 12:15.19 | abrotman | i don't use ntfs-3g |
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| 12:15.42 | seriouslycgi | ok thanks anyway |
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| 12:15.49 | seriouslycgi | i appreciate the links |
| 12:16.13 | mETz | lenny kernel supports fuse out of the box I think |
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| 12:16.28 | mETz | installing the ntfs-3g package should be enough to get it working |
| 12:16.57 | mETz | and let's hope fuse on linux is more stable than macfuse |
| 12:17.16 | mETz | I just lost my debian vbox image due to ntfs-3g+macfuse |
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| 12:20.00 | anoHito | valdyn, are you still there ? |
| 12:20.33 | anoHito | valdyn, it is strange, i kill -9 the PID of that ATA/0 thing,after that, httpd cannot be start |
| 12:21.24 | anoHito | valdyn, access to web,php cannot be excuted, showing the source file, all websites can be accessed,but just the folders . how come |
| 12:22.05 | mischief6 | can someone *please* help me with my kernel i am trying to build? every time i build & boot i get the error "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs" |
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| 12:26.10 | g00se_ | seriouslycgi: And it doesn't *have* to be ntfs perhaps - fat32 can be used. Not sure whether ntfs writes are yet 100% solid - the others might tell you ... |
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| 12:26.58 | nkuttler | mischief6: you probably forgot the initr |
| 12:26.58 | mETz | either way you might loose data |
| 12:27.01 | nkuttler | mischief6: initrd |
| 12:27.22 | mischief6 | nkuttler, do i have to have initrd? |
| 12:27.25 | nkuttler | mischief6: or compile filesystem, controller etc into the kernel |
| 12:27.28 | nkuttler | mischief6: no |
| 12:27.34 | mETz | fat32 is way too dangerous, especially for removable drives |
| 12:27.35 | mischief6 | nkuttler, i tried adding --initrd and it didn't work either. |
| 12:27.54 | anoHito | 98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 |
| 12:28.03 | nkuttler | mischief6: i don't use initrds, no ideas how they work. i put everything into the kernel |
| 12:28.34 | mischief6 | nkuttler, that is what i would like to do. but i have read around that it might be because i left a certain filesystem feature as a module or left it out |
| 12:28.46 | mischief6 | but i am not sure what that could be, i enabled everything i thought i'd need |
| 12:28.51 | mETz | if you don't know how to build a proper kernel then maybe you shouldn't bild one in the first case ;) |
| 12:29.11 | nkuttler | mischief6: boot a debian kernel, lsmod, see which modules it loads. don't forget the low-level hardware stuff |
| 12:29.15 | mischief6 | mETz, only one way to learn, and this is a virtual machine anyways |
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| 12:29.37 | mETz | and I'd always use a working config as a start |
| 12:29.47 | mischief6 | that's what i did. |
| 12:29.47 | mETz | how did you build/install the kernel? |
| 12:29.57 | mischief6 | the debian way from kernel.org sources |
| 12:29.58 | mETz | for debian I can only recommend using kernel-package |
| 12:30.03 | mischief6 | that's what i am doing |
| 12:30.05 | mETz | ok |
| 12:30.12 | mischief6 | nkuttler, i am in 2.6.26-2-686 stock right now |
| 12:30.41 | mETz | you can always use the config from /boot as a base |
| 12:30.41 | seriouslycgi | g00se_, hmmm i might use fat32 then does it address files bigger than 4g though? |
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| 12:31.10 | nkuttler | mischief6: unable to mount root sounds like you didn't compile the correct filesystem into the kernel |
| 12:31.13 | mETz | seriouslycgi: of course not |
| 12:31.31 | nkuttler | mischief6: as partitions and hd are already recognized at that level i think |
| 12:31.46 | mETz | seriouslycgi: and the probability to get your file damaged on a system freeze is insanely high with fat |
| 12:31.51 | seriouslycgi | mETz, guess i have no choice then |
| 12:31.58 | mETz | exactly |
| 12:32.27 | mETz | there's no proper cross-platform fs if you want to have all major OSes in the boat |
| 12:32.50 | seriouslycgi | which is stupid youd think that would be a high priority |
| 12:32.56 | mETz | for windows-linux I'd rather use ext2/3 :) |
| 12:33.00 | nkuttler | mETz: network fs |
| 12:33.02 | seriouslycgi | whats ext2/3 support like in windows |
| 12:33.03 | mischief6 | nkuttler, okay, well what fs's do i need, and what part of menuconfig are they in? :) |
| 12:33.10 | mETz | nkuttler: that's no fs, that's networking |
| 12:33.14 | mETz | and they all suck too :D |
| 12:33.22 | GhostlyDeath | seriouslycgi: sucky |
| 12:33.26 | mETz | anyway, ntfs-3g worked for me so far |
| 12:33.28 | GhostlyDeath | NTFS is better |
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| 12:33.34 | mETz | same goes for the ext2-driver on windows |
| 12:33.36 | nkuttler | mischief6: man mount, top level |
| 12:33.39 | GhostlyDeath | Vista NTFS anyway |
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| 12:34.29 | seriouslycgi | GhostlyDeath, & mETz, should i use windows to create the partition and filesystem or is linux ok for that? |
| 12:34.37 | mETz | I'd try out ntfs-3g too, the ext2-driver for windows is not the fastest when it comes to directories with many files |
| 12:34.50 | mETz | I always used windows |
| 12:35.09 | GhostlyDeath | seriouslycgi: gparted |
| 12:35.11 | mETz | same goes for checking if anything goes wrong |
| 12:35.11 | GhostlyDeath | Windows leaves 1MB gaps |
| 12:35.28 | mETz | omg, 1mb lost, we're almost out of disk space now with that 2tb drive ;)) |
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| 12:35.40 | seriouslycgi | lol |
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| 12:35.45 | Eulex | I'd hate that on my 486 |
| 12:36.46 | mETz | 1996 is over ;) |
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| 12:37.10 | seriouslycgi | did you have to google 486? |
| 12:37.14 | mETz | well, the ntfs partition I created on my mac worked on windows |
| 12:37.24 | mETz | just the missing 20gb vbox image kind of sucks :D |
| 12:37.26 | Eulex | method_, more like 93 |
| 12:37.58 | mETz | I wasn't wasting my time with crappy pcs so early |
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| 12:38.37 | omid8bimo | i need help, i have a telecom card , i can't get it running. it's problem is IRQ, according to lspci it use 10 and when i check interrupts 2 other device using 10 IRQ too |
| 12:38.38 | mETz | ok, back to my own stuff, reprepro and its manpage needs my attention |
| 12:38.48 | seriouslycgi | thank mETz |
| 12:38.53 | seriouslycgi | thanks* |
| 12:38.55 | omid8bimo | i tried to blacklist their modlules but no good |
| 12:39.02 | nkuttler | 486 in 1996? that's kind of retro |
| 12:39.09 | GhostlyDeath | mETz: It's a pain in the ass |
| 12:39.17 | GhostlyDeath | mETz: Usually gparted will align disks |
| 12:39.17 | mischief6 | nkuttler, i've got ext3 support in the kernel, what else would i need? :\ |
| 12:39.31 | GhostlyDeath | so it wastes time moving an entire partition over for just a single MB |
| 12:39.56 | nkuttler | mischief6: partition support, hardware support for your hd |
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| 12:41.45 | nkuttler | mischief6: if you built it manually you might even be missing something more fundamental, like... dunno, check what's on your mainboard |
| 12:42.02 | mischief6 | nkuttler, it's a virtual machine ._. |
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| 12:42.10 | nkuttler | mischief6: it has specs too... |
| 12:42.15 | orveldv | hi, today I've updated my Etch box (I didn't upgrade to Lenny), and the system does no longer boot, it hangs with the mesg "Waiting for root file system". Any hints? |
| 12:42.19 | mETz | pets "load alternate configuration" |
| 12:42.28 | mischief6 | nkuttler, it's using an SCSI disk, which support is enabled for :\ |
| 12:42.46 | nkuttler | mischief6: well, read through the whole kernel config i guess. enjoy! |
| 12:43.27 | mischief6 | nkuttler, i did read through the entire kernel config. :\ |
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| 12:44.30 | nkuttler | orveldv: udev? devices changed? |
| 12:44.39 | total | guys help, my server disk is full now, i can`t connect with ssh, but i can connect it with http |
| 12:44.47 | total | maybe restart will help? |
| 12:45.02 | orveldv | nkuttler: udev upgrade yes, but changing things from hda to sda doesn't fix it |
| 12:45.06 | nkuttler | total: hm, which error do you get with ssh? -v |
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| 12:45.55 | nkuttler | orveldv: did you fix your menu.lst? |
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| 12:46.38 | nkuttler | or fstab or whatever.. |
| 12:46.39 | DustyDingo | hm, is rkhunter file property database updated, when i install a package over apt? |
| 12:47.11 | DustyDingo | because about 1/2 of the files it checks report an warning, that they were changed |
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| 12:49.05 | total | nkuttler, no connection |
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| 12:50.19 | abrotman | DustyDingo: i believe the docs talk about false positives |
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| 12:52.07 | nkuttler | total: that doesn't sound like a full disk. there should be some reserved space for root anyway |
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| 12:52.45 | nkuttler | total: btw, how do you reboot without shell access? |
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| 12:54.28 | total | that option is in clients area |
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| 12:55.11 | nkuttler | clients area? |
| 12:55.15 | xand | is it possible make ext3 update free disk space more quickly |
| 12:55.15 | xand | ? |
| 12:55.39 | xand | it often takes me hours when I delete large (~1-2GB) files for it to update |
| 12:56.14 | Eulex | as returned by df? |
| 12:56.56 | nkuttler | xand: sync? |
| 12:57.08 | nkuttler | xand: and stop the processes that are accessing them? |
| 12:57.21 | xand | neither of those work |
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| 12:57.33 | xand | only if I remount can I force it :| |
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| 13:00.34 | pdani_ | hi |
| 13:00.53 | pdani_ | how can i log the output of init scripts during init, and after halt command? |
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| 13:01.57 | xand | I might change this partition to xfs |
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| 13:05.29 | codejone | http://osdir.com/ml/ext3-users/2009-04/msg00041.html |
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| 13:06.16 | asg | pdani_: enable bootlogd (/etc/default/bootlogd) |
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| 13:07.01 | pdani_ | asg: thx, i have a look at it |
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| 13:13.59 | pdani_ | asg: thx very much! |
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| 13:15.54 | IamSOG | does debian have a lighter versoin like ubuntu's xubuntu ? |
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| 13:16.31 | asg | IamSOG: yes, just don't install bloated crap |
| 13:17.09 | IamSOG | ash I just got lenny installed, doesn't fit my hardware well, I am trying to go back to older verion, but the CD have problem :o so I am trying to figure out what to do now |
| 13:17.17 | anoHito | very strange, i did run ipcs before,but now it says compare: /usr/local/lib/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libMagick.so.9) |
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| 13:18.15 | infinity0 | i've put ftp.ticklers.org into my sources.list and can connect to it via ftp, however synaptic tries to connect to a totally different IP instead |
| 13:18.25 | infinity0 | and gets stuck because that IP doesn't have a ftp server |
| 13:18.31 | infinity0 | anyone know why is this happening? |
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| 13:20.28 | codejone | mabye you need to update infinity0 |
| 13:20.49 | infinity0 | what do you mean |
| 13:21.29 | codejone | update your sources list, like with apt-get update |
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| 13:21.51 | infinity0 | no, it fails on the updating step |
| 13:22.03 | infinity0 | by "connect" i mean on the updating step |
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| 13:22.34 | TalkSoup | Hello. I am trying to workaround a stupid (IMHO) openSUSE workstation by installing a caching http proxy on the debian server. what do you recommend? |
| 13:22.43 | mETz | connecting to some other host sounds like dns problems |
| 13:22.56 | infinity0 | if i do lsof -ni | grep tp, then it shows that synaptic is trying to connect to www171.sedoparking.com instead of ftp.ticklers.org |
| 13:22.59 | TalkSoup | The openSUSE workstation package manager would abort if download did not finish in 3 minutes, which always will, beacuse of slow local connection. |
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| 13:23.13 | infinity0 | but if i do "ftp ftp.ticklers.org" on the command line it works |
| 13:23.17 | infinity0 | so my DNS is fine |
| 13:23.30 | mETz | maybe using a proxy for apt? |
| 13:23.33 | codejone | can you put ip's in a source file? |
| 13:23.41 | infinity0 | oh nvmd lol |
| 13:23.43 | mETz | sure, for ftp that should work |
| 13:23.49 | infinity0 | typo, sources.list i had tickers.org :/ |
| 13:23.54 | mETz | for http you might run into problems due to virtual hosting |
| 13:24.06 | mETz | hands infinity0 new glasses |
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| 13:31.19 | HTT-Bird | ok, what's the best way to pull in the latest Boost? |
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| 13:32.06 | Tominator | hi |
| 13:32.17 | Tominator | i've got some problems with my nfs-share |
| 13:33.26 | Tominator | I've got different uids on the client and the server... I heard about idmap, but I wasn't able to find a good documentation.. how can I use idmap? |
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| 13:39.11 | GhostlyDeath | Is there a way to limit users to use only a single core in my dual core processor? |
| 13:39.45 | GhostlyDeath | For one user, I want them to only use Core 1, while another user can use Cores 0 and 1 |
| 13:40.21 | agaran | possible sure, how to, i dont know, no two cpu machine around ;) |
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| 13:40.54 | ndf | grrrh, sound problems again, how can i find out what's tying up alsa? |
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| 13:41.19 | HTT-Bird | ok. I need Boost >= 1.37.0 for a project I'm developing (due to changes in Spirit), and I can get 1.38.0 from Sid. Will pulling in a new Boost break things like OOo that depend on it? |
| 13:41.43 | GhostlyDeath | HTT-Bird: Only if OOo requires an earlier version |
| 13:42.05 | total | how to minimize /var/lib/mysql/ibdata1, now it is 18gb size |
| 13:42.12 | GhostlyDeath | Like if it says it requires boost < 1.37 |
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| 13:44.15 | fgfdgf | anyone tell me how to get kernel headers for lenny i can build from source ? |
| 13:44.41 | fgfdgf | with apt-get |
| 13:44.44 | HTT-Bird | GhostlyDeath: it doesn't depend on Boost at all :p |
| 13:45.13 | HTT-Bird | is there some sort of aptitude command I can use to ask my machine what I have that depends on Boost? |
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| 13:50.24 | Renfield | Is there any documentation for upgrading to testing? |
| 13:50.54 | asg | Renfield: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
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| 13:51.15 | Renfield | asg: Thanks. |
| 13:52.34 | asg | HTT-Bird: the 'apt-rdepends' package may be useful |
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| 13:52.44 | Renfield | What if I only want specific packages from testing? Is it possible to do that? |
| 13:52.57 | asg | Renfield: /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:53.05 | Renfield | I'm looking to install awesome 3.2.1. |
| 13:53.13 | asg | Renfield: or make your own (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) |
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| 13:54.23 | tingle | does the command Â`apt-cache depence ` show all the the packages i install whit `apt-get install xorg`? |
| 13:54.23 | Renfield | Oh, I don't want the sid version. People seem to be having lots of problems with 3.3-rc2. |
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| 13:56.04 | Renfield | Darn, looks like awesome is not in backports.org. |
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| 13:57.38 | asg | Renfield: you can use the simple sid backport instructions to build from testing also, just substitute sid for squeeze in your sources.list |
| 13:57.55 | Renfield | So I have to build it? I can't just install it from testing? |
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| 13:59.40 | psylance | is it possible to boot a live-cd over network? |
| 14:00.23 | HTT-Bird | GAH. how do I tell the package-searcher thingy to show me all the results, even if the keyword is "too generic'? |
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| 14:05.43 | nkuttler | HTT-Bird: define thingy |
| 14:06.10 | HTT-Bird | nkuttler: I meant the package search on the Debian site :)\ |
| 14:06.15 | HTT-Bird | call it a widget if you prefer ;) |
| 14:06.28 | nkuttler | HTT-Bird: use apt-cache search then |
| 14:06.38 | HTT-Bird | ah. |
| 14:08.27 | HTT-Bird | nkuttler: on a different note, I'm trying the instructions from <simple sid backport> on Boost 1.38, but "apt-get build-dep boost1.38" fails with the error "E: Build-Depends dependency for boost1.38 cannot be satisfied because the package mpi-default-dev cannot be found |
| 14:08.30 | HTT-Bird | " |
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| 14:08.58 | prophet | can i remove avahi-daemon n my laptops |
| 14:09.03 | prophet | i dont see wha thtis thing even does |
| 14:09.11 | prophet | except for the "emulates macos" |
| 14:09.15 | prophet | which i cant believe at all |
| 14:10.35 | prophet | disregard that |
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| 14:12.38 | HTT-Bird | I'm trying the instructions from <simple sid backport> on Boost 1.38, but "apt-get build-dep boost1.38" fails with the error "E: Build-Depends dependency for boost1.38 cannot be satisfied because the package mpi-default-dev cannot be found" |
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| 14:16.38 | tingle | hi, is there a way i can just config the boot scripts for a wireless wpa2 connection? |
| 14:17.56 | liable | tingle: you can start it from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:18.15 | valdyn | HTT-Bird: so you have to backport mpi-default-dev first |
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| 14:18.34 | HTT-Bird | valdyn: mpi-default-dev's a virtual |
| 14:18.58 | valdyn | HTT-Bird: so backport whatever provides mpi-default-dev |
| 14:20.59 | mETz | that reminds me of my question from hours ago |
| 14:21.24 | mETz | what to do when packaging software for lenny that requires packages only found in sid? |
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| 14:21.42 | valdyn | mETz: didnt I just answer that? |
| 14:21.45 | mETz | in my case the sid packages (perl modules) install flawlessly on sid |
| 14:22.05 | mETz | i.e. there's no real reason to rebuild that package |
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| 14:22.20 | valdyn | mETz: developers cannot anticipate future developments |
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| 14:22.45 | valdyn | mETz: which means that a package cannot contain complete informations about which new versions will break it how |
| 14:22.54 | valdyn | mETz: so this may or may not work. |
| 14:23.31 | mETz | so you say I should rebuild it for lenny anyway? |
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| 14:23.39 | GhostlyDeath | hmm, is there a way to force a CPU affinity setting on all processes started by a user? |
| 14:23.40 | valdyn | mETz: yes |
| 14:23.43 | mETz | ok |
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| 14:24.43 | valdyn | mETz: just backport / recompile anything unless you know precisely about the ( untested ) interactions |
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| 14:25.15 | orveldv | so, can someone tell the brilliant udev maintainers to stop messing with it, at least for the ol'n'rusty Etch? I've had a 4 hours downtime after an udev upgrade, the box was simply not booting anymore |
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| 14:26.09 | nellmathew | this the official debian channel? |
| 14:26.20 | orveldv | jeez, I had no idea that oldstable is actually unstable |
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| 14:26.51 | XLV | orveldv, soft raid arrays for boot & root? |
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| 14:27.12 | mETz | it's always good to use the codenames instead of stable/unstable/whateverstable in sources.list |
| 14:27.34 | orveldv | XLV: just ide ata drives |
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| 14:28.35 | tingle | how can i see what my wifi password looks like in hex? i need to fill it in, in /etc/network/interfaces but i have only terminal and browser from this point. i cant see it in my router.. its just plain text password there |
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| 14:29.16 | osfd | Hi, How do I unrar rar archive in multiple files file.r00 file.r01...file.rar please |
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| 14:29.49 | andash | osfd: just unrar the *.rar one |
| 14:29.52 | andash | should work |
| 14:30.11 | Polarina | RAR is evil! |
| 14:30.17 | valdyn | osfd: unrar file.rar |
| 14:30.50 | osfd | andash: valdyn...seems to work, thank you |
| 14:31.00 | tingle | rar x filename |
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| 14:31.48 | valdyn | orveldv: maybe you should read the changelog on security fixes first |
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| 14:31.58 | deb_ | hi,equivalent splitcam for linux debian? |
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| 14:33.46 | abrotman | deb_: which is what exactly ? |
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| 14:34.24 | tingle | how can i see what my wifi password looks like in hex? i need to fill it in, in /etc/network/interfaces but i have only terminal and browser from this point. i cant see it in my router.. its just plain text password there |
| 14:34.28 | orveldv | valdyn: I have this old box sitting there and doing its job, I don't want to upgrade to Lenny, I'm not concerned about security, it's not accessible from the outside |
| 14:34.35 | orveldv | I just want it to work |
| 14:34.39 | orveldv | today. |
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| 14:34.46 | deb_ | abrotman: is a fake video fake cam |
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| 14:35.08 | valdyn | orveldv: so why dont you install security fixes then? |
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| 14:35.46 | abrotman | deb_: uhm .. that doesn't make sense .. why would you wan tthat? |
| 14:35.52 | valdyn | orveldv: so why *do* you install security fixes then? |
| 14:36.11 | deb_ | fake webcam.. |
| 14:36.29 | orveldv | valdyn: good point, I should stop updating it |
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| 14:37.10 | abrotman | yeah .. i don't understand why you'd want a fake webcam |
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| 14:37.51 | frostschutz | is there a command for installing all packages that are required for building a package (without actually building the package)? |
| 14:37.56 | mETz | uh oh: This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers. <- so why is it better than apt-get which actually does have Super Cow Powers? ;) |
| 14:38.26 | deb_ | abrotman: exist or not? |
| 14:39.08 | mETz | frostschutz: apt-get build-dep packagetobuildfromsource |
| 14:39.09 | abrotman | i have no idea .. it still doesn't make sense to me .. `apt-cache search webcam` i guess |
| 14:39.22 | frostschutz | mETz: thanks! |
| 14:39.28 | mETz | frostschutz: google knows that! |
| 14:39.44 | frostschutz | I didn't find it... :-/ |
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| 14:40.31 | mETz | googling for "apt-get source deps" helps |
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| 14:41.59 | sdsds | hello i have a Logitech Quickcam, on Lenny it worked... now i don't know if Squeeze caused this, but now doesn't work anymore.. i've no the /dev/video0 device.. |
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| 14:42.35 | anoHito | i have a process ID but i cannot kill it |
| 14:42.37 | anoHito | root 716 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 20:15 0:00 [ata/1] |
| 14:42.41 | anoHito | any clue ? |
| 14:42.56 | zepho | hi, i have strange monitor freezes for a few days (testing, ati card). either it goes black, or the image freezes, or it freezes but the lines wiggle like crazy. Xorg goes to 100% CPU (and above?!) in top |
| 14:43.03 | \amethyst | anoHito: that's a kernel thread |
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| 14:43.20 | anoHito | no way to terminate it ? |
| 14:43.22 | zepho | could that be a hardware malfunction, or is it rather some software problem? |
| 14:43.26 | abrotman | anoHito: why would you want to? |
| 14:43.45 | anoHito | cuz when it is running, the sytem load is high. |
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| 14:44.01 | eptalon | heyas |
| 14:44.15 | anoHito | run iostat -mx 1, the value of %util is always 100 . |
| 14:44.33 | eptalon | I am looking ofr a tool in debian that would allow me to do statistical analysis of data. |
| 14:45.18 | \amethyst | anoHito: try to find out what process is causing all the I/O (maybe with iotop) |
| 14:45.32 | zepho | i mean, how can Xorg even be above 100% cpu? it's a dual-core yes, but i thought they are evaluated separately |
| 14:45.57 | eptalon | zepho: in a dual core you get a max of 200% |
| 14:46.14 | asg | zepho: in top, if you want to see individual core usage, hit '1' |
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| 14:46.40 | nellmathew | what's up with all the different isos for debian?.. for i386 do i need to get all 31? |
| 14:46.46 | abrotman | no |
| 14:46.47 | zepho | thx |
| 14:47.04 | zepho | interesting nevertheless, as processes normally use only one core. |
| 14:47.20 | zepho | so how could i find out what the connection is between monitor freeze and Xorg going crazy? |
| 14:47.21 | anoHito | i need to termniate that ATA/0 thing |
| 14:47.48 | abrotman | zepho: start by trying a different driver |
| 14:47.52 | anoHito | it was all okay but after an improper shutting down was performed by the datacentre ...:( |
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| 14:47.56 | creature_ | how do you make hotkeys for programs in gnome? |
| 14:47.58 | abrotman | maybe it's doing something ? |
| 14:48.11 | anoHito | now server is still running ATA/0 and scsi_eh_1 |
| 14:48.16 | abrotman | creature_: there is a keyboard shortcuts applet |
| 14:48.31 | \amethyst | anoHito: disable the ATA drivers and reboot |
| 14:48.33 | asg | creature_: gconf-editor -> apps/metacity. There are 12 slots defined. |
| 14:48.41 | creature_ | abrotman: it doesn't let you choose the keys |
| 14:48.54 | creature_ | no wait actually the action |
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| 14:49.02 | creature_ | they are just predefined |
| 14:49.04 | zepho | abrotman: yes, i was going to buy a cheapo nvidia anyway, only bought the ati by mistake (same name as a card with nvidia chip) and had nothing but trouble with it. |
| 14:49.06 | asg | creature_: you can create a new action |
| 14:49.14 | abrotman | zepho: that's not what i meant .. |
| 14:49.18 | creature_ | asg: no you can't theres no add button |
| 14:49.21 | abrotman | zepho: which ati card do you have ? |
| 14:49.30 | asg | creature_: then use gconf-editor to add them |
| 14:49.46 | asg | creature_: there's also the xbindkeys package for more flexibility |
| 14:50.11 | anoHito | <\amethyst> disable ? |
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| 14:50.56 | creature_ | yea ill do xbindkeys |
| 14:51.00 | creature_ | this gnome system seems stupid |
| 14:51.23 | creature_ | its like some windows registery editor |
| 14:51.30 | asg | then use something else if you don't like gnome; there are a lot of alternatives. |
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| 14:52.28 | abrotman | or just use alt-f3 and launch the minicommander thingie |
| 14:52.29 | creature_ | i like gnome the best for desktop |
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| 14:52.42 | creature_ | wmii is great for laptops |
| 14:53.07 | unomi | fluxbox! ;) |
| 14:53.17 | asg | !start a wm war |
| 14:53.17 | dpkg | X bites! |
| 14:53.25 | chomwitt_ | in lenny , in gnome i choose to automatically update some packages. after reboot my wifi wont work! in the update there also a linux-image update. what should i do? |
| 14:53.31 | \amethyst | anoHito: e.g. add a line blacklist libata in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (or some other file), then rebuild your initramfs |
| 14:53.32 | unomi | emacs is my wm! |
| 14:53.41 | \amethyst | anoHito: that will tell the kernel not to use the ATA driver |
| 14:53.43 | asg | s/wm/OS/ |
| 14:53.45 | creature_ | my computer boots to emacs |
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| 14:53.52 | ajavid | god morning |
| 14:53.54 | ajavid | good |
| 14:54.05 | \amethyst | ajavid: well, it is Sunday here |
| 14:54.08 | anoHito | hmmm |
| 14:54.14 | ajavid | heh |
| 14:54.14 | eptalon | ajavid: the morning depends a bit on where you are |
| 14:54.34 | ajavid | hm |
| 14:54.39 | ajavid | that greeting sucked. |
| 14:54.46 | ajavid | Live long and prosper? |
| 14:54.48 | anoHito | <\amethyst> when the ata/0 is running, the system load raises up this is imnormal ? |
| 14:54.53 | ajavid | hope nothing wrong with that one. |
| 14:55.02 | eptalon | ajavid: my the foce be with you? |
| 14:55.09 | eptalon | er force |
| 14:55.23 | abrotman | er may ? |
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| 14:55.27 | ajavid | imnormal? |
| 14:55.35 | ajavid | anoHito, abnormal :) |
| 14:55.54 | \amethyst | anoHito: that means either a lot of I/O is happening on the first ATA channel (whether that's IDE or SATA); or the ATA hardware is having problems |
| 14:56.01 | zepho | so is there a way to kill the 120% Xorg process for now (i'm on ssh) ? |
| 14:56.09 | abrotman | kill |
| 14:56.20 | zepho | i just don't like rebooting all the time, if not necessary |
| 14:56.32 | anoHito | <\amethyst> yes,very apparently a lot of IO ,gees. while there are no http access. |
| 14:56.33 | \amethyst | anoHito: iotop might tell you what program is causing the I/O |
| 14:56.36 | abrotman | or you could try /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
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| 14:56.50 | eptalon | anoHito: anything abnormal in syslog? |
| 14:57.07 | hjb | Hi. os-prober doesn't find my ms-dos partition |
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| 14:57.21 | anoHito | <\amethyst> I plan to replace this HDD however before i do it, the datacentre again made a mistake that they force to shutdown the server again, i am so angry. |
| 14:57.23 | hjb | looking at /usr/lib/probes/mounted/20microsoft it should do so |
| 14:57.24 | zepho | abrotman: kill doesn't work (not even -9) |
| 14:57.40 | hjb | anyone knows if it's broken? |
| 14:57.48 | anoHito | from that on, this ata thing also the scsi_eh_1 thing run in the background and have a high load. |
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| 14:57.55 | DarkX | sudo mount -t smbfs \\pc-pc\D /home/user/Desktop/Spiele_Windows7 -o username=linux,password=linux |
| 14:58.00 | nabian | comunity help me...yesterday I install deb 5 whit lxde today I changed the resolution to 1024*768 and apeared lines I thinked It was by the frecuency I changed it and didn't change anything...I have a CRT monitor |
| 14:58.01 | DarkX | whats wrong with this |
| 14:58.18 | ajavid | backslashes |
| 14:58.27 | zepho | stopping gdm doesn't work either |
| 14:58.27 | DarkX | how can i make backslashe |
| 14:58.32 | ajavid | I think |
| 14:58.45 | ajavid | you have to specify like //host/share /mount/point |
| 14:58.52 | nabian | ¿? |
| 14:58.55 | abrotman | zepho: it sounds like the driver is crashing .. which card do you have ? |
| 14:59.07 | zepho | DarkCow: windows is \, all other systems are / |
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| 14:59.18 | ajavid | and don't use smbfs use cifs |
| 14:59.19 | DarkX | mount error: could not find target server. TCP name pc-pc/D not found |
| 14:59.19 | DarkX | No ip address specified and hostname not found |
| 14:59.25 | zepho | abrotman: i'm trying to check the version |
| 14:59.28 | DarkX | but pc-pc is a computer in entwork |
| 14:59.33 | DarkX | i can acces on it with samba |
| 14:59.34 | abrotman | zepho: lspci |
| 14:59.55 | ajavid | DarkX, first ping pc-pc, if good, then smbclient -L pc-pc |
| 14:59.59 | ajavid | DarkX, whats the output |
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| 15:00.05 | anoHito | gees |
| 15:00.16 | anoHito | epsas, i am seeing IO error in syslog |
| 15:00.23 | DarkX | unknown host pc-pc |
| 15:00.32 | ajavid | then use ip address |
| 15:00.39 | zepho | abrotman: thx i forget this all the time. RV530LE RADEON X1650PRO it says |
| 15:00.49 | ajavid | or make an entry in /etc/hosts for x.x.x.x pc-pc |
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| 15:01.13 | DarkX | but the ip refreshes every 24 hours? |
| 15:01.23 | abrotman | zepho: try using the 'radeon' driver instead of fglrx and see if it still dies |
| 15:01.36 | anoHito | <\amethyst> , eptalon ,would you let me paste those IO errors ? |
| 15:01.42 | eptalon | Any recommendation for a software that can do statistical analysis? |
| 15:01.42 | DarkX | ip is 192.168.0.101 |
| 15:02.08 | ajavid | DarkX, just use static config or static dhcp (which I use) |
| 15:02.15 | abrotman | eptalon: like octave ? |
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| 15:02.33 | abrotman | eptalon: the R programming language ? |
| 15:02.40 | zepho | abrotman: hm strange, xorg.conf is almost empty... (nothing in relevant sections) |
| 15:02.47 | DarkX | no i cant use static thats the problem, i must use pc-pc |
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| 15:02.47 | eptalon | abrotman: is that for analysising/finding trends in loads of data? |
| 15:02.48 | ajavid | zepho, autoconfiguration these days |
| 15:02.51 | DarkX | smbclient -L 192.168.0.101 |
| 15:02.51 | DarkX | Enter user's password: |
| 15:02.51 | DarkX | session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED |
| 15:03.00 | zepho | ajavid: well, great when it works ;) |
| 15:03.03 | ajavid | DarkX, don;'t do it as root |
| 15:03.06 | abrotman | zepho: that's normal |
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| 15:03.23 | abrotman | eptalon: look and see |
| 15:03.26 | zepho | so how do i specify the driver "these days" ;) ? |
| 15:03.31 | ajavid | zepho, manually |
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| 15:03.40 | ajavid | zepho, create a device section, use driver directive |
| 15:03.42 | zepho | but in xorg.conf? |
| 15:03.44 | zepho | ok |
| 15:03.53 | DarkX | sudo smbclient -L 192.168.0.101 |
| 15:03.53 | DarkX | Enter root's password: |
| 15:03.53 | DarkX | session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED |
| 15:03.59 | ajavid | look for sample xorg.conf or in /usr/share/doc/x tab tab something |
| 15:04.00 | ajavid | I forgot |
| 15:04.07 | eptalon | abrotman: is that good at statistics? |
| 15:04.19 | ajavid | DarkX, i saw it, next time use a pastebin, and don't use smbclient as root |
| 15:04.29 | ajavid | root is not allowed to login on default in smb.conf |
| 15:04.29 | abrotman | eptalon: no, it's awful .. no one uses it .. |
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| 15:04.44 | abrotman | eptalon: i don't do statistics .. i just know they exist .. do some research |
| 15:04.52 | zepho | abrotman: i bought a gigabyte geforce 7600gt because of the low-energy nvidia chip, but the gigabyte version uses ati. |
| 15:04.56 | eptalon | abrotman: aw.. :) |
| 15:05.12 | ajavid | zepho, that makes little sense |
| 15:05.13 | abrotman | zepho: that doesnt' make sense .. but okay |
| 15:05.24 | DarkX | ajavid i need an username and password for logging in the network pc |
| 15:05.26 | ajavid | zepho, you bought nvidia and it turned out to be ati that nvidia is using? |
| 15:05.27 | ajavid | lol |
| 15:05.28 | zepho | which part doesn't? :) |
| 15:05.40 | anoHito | how do i check the size of a folder ? |
| 15:05.44 | ajavid | du |
| 15:05.55 | anoHito | which switch ? |
| 15:06.00 | ajavid | read man page |
| 15:06.03 | zepho | i thought the card with the name geforce 7600gt uses the nvidia chip always, but the gigabyte version uses an ati chip |
| 15:06.18 | anoHito | ajavid, haha |
| 15:06.23 | DarkX | ajavid how can i mount smb now |
| 15:06.33 | ajavid | DarkX, dude, you know what your problem is |
| 15:06.42 | ajavid | DarkX, why do you continue to pretend that you don't know |
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| 15:06.57 | DarkX | i dontknow waht sthe problem is ajavid |
| 15:07.20 | DarkX | it dont allow to login ? ajavid |
| 15:07.26 | ajavid | DarkX, your hostname is not found, but ip is. either create a static config, or use static dhcp leases based on MAC, or mount by ip, or edit /etc/hosts and create an entry for pc-pc by the ip you want |
| 15:07.41 | ajavid | 4 solutions to your problem |
| 15:08.15 | ajavid | as for the smbclient can't login, do not use smbclient as root. Also add yourself to the samba user using smbpasswd -a usernamehere |
| 15:08.24 | ajavid | use smbpasswd as root |
| 15:08.25 | DarkX | it work ;) |
| 15:08.44 | anoHito | what does this mean in syslog May 17 23:05:29 server kernel: sd 1:0:1:0: [sda] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed |
| 15:08.45 | ajavid | fantastic |
| 15:08.58 | anoHito | sda is the HDD partitiion run under XFS. |
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| 15:09.12 | anoHito | unrecovered read error ? |
| 15:09.16 | agaran | it looks like dying hdd for me |
| 15:09.20 | \amethyst | anoHito: your disk has enough bad sectors that it can't remap the sectors anymore |
| 15:09.21 | anoHito | i really want spank the datacentre |
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| 15:09.25 | ajavid | smartmontools! |
| 15:09.31 | anoHito | oh |
| 15:09.40 | eptalon | anoHito: do a backup *NOW* |
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| 15:09.58 | zepho | tried radeon, freezes even faster now... |
| 15:10.03 | anoHito | then ,omg,sorry, i fortunatelly have ordered a new HDD and now it is in the datacentre ,all awaiting for the downloading backups to be finished. |
| 15:10.09 | ajavid | #1 failing component == HDD |
| 15:10.16 | ajavid | #2 failing component is PSU |
| 15:10.20 | ajavid | 3 is ram usually |
| 15:10.23 | anoHito | epsilon, doing it. Thank you very much , and amethyst. |
| 15:10.24 | agaran | ajavid: :-) |
| 15:10.47 | epsas | ;/win 6 |
| 15:10.54 | agaran | anoHito: you might use smartmontools or similar tool to find how bad with drive it is already and to prevent next surprise too |
| 15:10.55 | eptalon | ajavid: some hdd brans fail faster, it seems.. |
| 15:11.06 | agaran | anoHito: some symptoms are before it dies.. |
| 15:11.08 | ajavid | I've used WD disks for years |
| 15:11.15 | ajavid | not one has failed on me yet |
| 15:11.38 | ajavid | I got WD caviar disks for like almost 4 years now, 250gb, 500gb, 750gb, and a 1tb |
| 15:11.38 | agaran | i have 18 years old WD working.. ;) |
| 15:11.39 | eptalon | ajavid: this comp uses maxtor, but those are in a raid |
| 15:11.42 | anoHito | i have smartmontools but it doesnt work,says s.m.a.r.t. is disabled. |
| 15:11.43 | Polarina | anoHito: Check your BIOS settings. |
| 15:11.47 | ajavid | anoHito, bios option |
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| 15:11.51 | agaran | anoHito: so enable it in bios, |
| 15:11.55 | ajavid | anoHito, anyhow, disk is fucked, move data, backup |
| 15:11.57 | ajavid | etc. etc. |
| 15:12.01 | anoHito | agaran, Yes, the server all of a sudden have a HIGH LOAD and all are realted to disk read/write operations while the IO is very high |
| 15:12.22 | agaran | anoHito: so its already qualifying for hospital.. |
| 15:12.24 | eptalon | anoHito: dying/dead harddisk. |
| 15:12.27 | abrotman | anoHito: are you using software raid? |
| 15:13.04 | eptalon | abrotman: good question.. |
| 15:13.04 | anoHito | i have ordered a HDD the day before yesterday and it has just arrived in the datacentre several hours ago,but the datacentre stupid shit did NOT tell me and just shutdown the server they were going to reinstall the server with the new HDD while i have not finished backups downloading. |
| 15:13.22 | ajavid | ouch |
| 15:13.57 | anoHito | they shut it down by press the POWER botton i CAN NOT believe it cuz i have told them the HDD issue i cannot believe it they COULD still do the forthermore damange to the dying HDD. |
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| 15:14.35 | ajavid | wow |
| 15:14.59 | ajavid | which company do you get your server hosting from? let us know so that we don't use em ... |
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| 15:15.10 | anoHito | i hosted it in a chinese company |
| 15:15.24 | xconspirisist | hey. I am using Debian 5, just installed xserver using apt, when I try to start the server using 'startx' it gives me a couple of messages but nothing that looks erronous, then just a black screen. Nothing fancy in /var/log/Xorg.0.log either. Using svideo, radeon (I think) and a PAL TV. Any ideas what I could try next? |
| 15:15.25 | ajavid | hm |
| 15:15.45 | ajavid | well, that could be indication of something |
| 15:15.45 | ajavid | I'm not saying anything. |
| 15:16.08 | zepho | so, any other way to kill Xorg/reset the video driver (to at least get the linux console back) over ssh ? |
| 15:16.10 | anoHito | ajavid, i cannot believe it they have already done that many times to my server right after i moved to their room :( they needed to adjust firewall they shut down my server without telling me in advance and such and many times. |
| 15:16.13 | ajavid | xconspirisist, we'd ask to see the log file |
| 15:16.22 | module000 | xconspirisist: so you're trying to output via svideo and it's a blackscreen? show us the conf + log |
| 15:16.23 | abrotman | xconspirisist: how did you install X ? |
| 15:16.26 | xconspirisist | ajavid: Two secs, I'll pastebin it. |
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| 15:16.34 | mETz | hmm, handling my own backports with debuild and reprepro is tough |
| 15:16.35 | xconspirisist | ^^ using apt |
| 15:16.40 | abrotman | xconspirisist: which package? |
| 15:16.45 | ajavid | xconspirisist, aptitude install xorg (try this) |
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| 15:17.23 | mETz | for some reason dpkg-genchanges tells me that it won't include the sources and including the changes-file with reprepro fails due to the missing sources |
| 15:17.25 | ajavid | zepho, alt+ctrl+backspace in lenny should work |
| 15:17.26 | xconspirisist | I'm not quite sure. I'll try that. |
| 15:17.45 | xconspirisist | xorg.conf and log: http://slexy.org/view/s20fHDWNgR |
| 15:17.52 | abrotman | zepho: did you set it up to use the radeon driver now ? |
| 15:17.56 | mETz | that looks like a chicken-egg-problem :( |
| 15:18.14 | xconspirisist | lol, apt-get install xorg is giving me some packages. /me installs em |
| 15:18.14 | abrotman | xconspirisist: the *entire* X log |
| 15:18.29 | xconspirisist | ah, mmk. |
| 15:19.04 | ajavid | xconspirisist, aptitude superior |
| 15:19.15 | xconspirisist | pfft. |
| 15:19.22 | ajavid | xconspirisist, xorg is a package the whole X installs with it |
| 15:19.40 | ajavid | xserver-xorg-core is a bit minimal but only by a few |
| 15:19.45 | xconspirisist | Sure. Can't quite think what I installed to get "startx" without the whole of it :/ |
| 15:20.01 | zepho | abrotman: i think so, i added the Driver "radeon" line to xorg.conf and rebooted, it froze after about ten seconds. |
| 15:20.07 | xconspirisist | mm, still no joy. Posting the full xorg log |
| 15:20.08 | ajavid | used to be a x-window-system-core |
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| 15:20.16 | zepho | ajavid: not when it's frozen |
| 15:20.19 | ajavid | xconspirisist, paste.debian.net use a cli browser |
| 15:20.21 | abrotman | zepho: put your xorg.conf in a pastebin .. and probably your Xorg.0.log |
| 15:20.28 | ajavid | xconspirisist, go to the space you select file for upload |
| 15:20.38 | ajavid | xconspirisist, type in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:20.49 | ajavid | and hit send |
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| 15:20.59 | ajavid | use gpm to navigate cli with a mouse |
| 15:21.04 | ajavid | aptitude install gpm |
| 15:21.09 | abrotman | jebus .. why |
| 15:21.14 | xconspirisist | heh, gimme a few minutes |
| 15:21.21 | xconspirisist | thanks for the help so far :) |
| 15:21.22 | ajavid | why not, let him get hooked up with gpm |
| 15:21.27 | nabian | yesterday I installed debian 5 whit lxde today I changed the resolution to 1024*768 and apeared lines I thinked It was by the frecuency I changed it and didn't change anything...I have a CRT monitor |
| 15:21.27 | abrotman | that's just goofy |
| 15:21.32 | ajavid | you're goofy! |
| 15:21.40 | nabian | somebody can helpme? |
| 15:21.41 | abrotman | at least i'm not having people install gpm for no reason |
| 15:21.51 | ajavid | ok |
| 15:21.57 | ajavid | and where is the harm |
| 15:22.02 | abrotman | where is the benefit? |
| 15:22.04 | ajavid | just give me one good point and i'll stop. |
| 15:22.21 | ajavid | otherwise you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. uncool. |
| 15:22.28 | module000 | ajavid: but...this is irc. |
| 15:22.34 | abrotman | you're installing software that doesn't give him anything useful |
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| 15:22.42 | ajavid | I disagree |
| 15:22.46 | abrotman | he'll never use it except this instance .. and it's not even needed |
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| 15:22.49 | ajavid | I think gpm is very useful while in the cli env. |
| 15:23.00 | xconspirisist | ajavid: Had to reboot, it's just checking disks :/ |
| 15:23.00 | abrotman | you also think your enter key is a toy .. |
| 15:23.09 | ajavid | thats the beauty of it, you're entitled to yoru own opinions! |
| 15:23.10 | ajavid | yay |
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| 15:24.32 | abrotman | xconspirisist: lspci | grep VGA .. which video card do you have? |
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| 15:24.46 | xconspirisist | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] |
| 15:24.50 | xconspirisist | Wow, news to me :) |
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| 15:25.02 | ajavid | something that uses radeon, has to use radeon driver as per the log |
| 15:25.03 | abrotman | seems everyone is surprised they're using ati ... |
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| 15:25.23 | poppiez | hi, last night I did a dist-upgrade and now when I run "locale" as normal user all of the locales are set to POSIX. as root, they are correct. what just happened? |
| 15:25.29 | ajavid | xconspirisist, it may have something to do with the fact that its a tv and you may need some radeon specific thing |
| 15:25.35 | xconspirisist | It's an old box, trying to turn it into a media center :) |
| 15:25.37 | ajavid | xconspirisist, also join #radeon |
| 15:25.44 | xconspirisist | ah, will do. |
| 15:26.19 | ajavid | afk |
| 15:26.33 | abrotman | xconspirisist: is it just X that doesn't work? |
| 15:26.42 | xconspirisist | Seems to be, yah. |
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| 15:26.57 | zepho | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/d2bd2c150 |
| 15:26.59 | abrotman | xconspirisist: you probably need to specify mode lines for the PAL |
| 15:26.59 | agaran | or outputs on different output than just on vga? |
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| 15:27.39 | abrotman | zepho: you didn't change it to use radeon |
| 15:27.47 | mETz | holy sh..., packging for debian must be really the worst nightmare ever |
| 15:27.54 | xconspirisist | abrotman: ah, Do you know what the statements are for that? |
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| 15:28.03 | abrotman | zepho: oh wait |
| 15:28.14 | abrotman | !modelines |
| 15:28.16 | abrotman | !modeline |
| 15:28.16 | dpkg | methinks modeline is You can create custom modelines at http://www.hut.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html, or http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl, or use cvt or gtf, or apt-get install videogen, or modeline |
| 15:28.17 | ajavid | mETz, after a while it gets easy, as you know more things |
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| 15:28.34 | mETz | ajavid: I just cannot find out how to do a proper backport |
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| 15:28.42 | ajavid | mETz, I remember SMC took me more than 2 months, my first package |
| 15:28.52 | ajavid | mETz, now it takes much less cuz i already did it a few times |
| 15:29.04 | mETz | rebuilding for my own needs is pretty straightforward already but taking care of packages suitable for a public repo is way more complicated |
| 15:29.05 | ajavid | mETz, /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 15:29.19 | abrotman | does the X1650 need fglrx ? |
| 15:29.29 | abrotman | guess not |
| 15:29.30 | mETz | smc? now wonder it took two months, the first few versions were utter crap :D |
| 15:29.36 | ajavid | mETz, if you specific questions related to backporting, ask those |
| 15:29.40 | mETz | I gave up porting it to osx |
| 15:29.44 | ajavid | you know smc |
| 15:29.46 | ajavid | #secretmaryo |
| 15:29.48 | ajavid | ;) |
| 15:29.50 | mETz | yeah |
| 15:30.08 | ajavid | muammar el khatib is the maintainer now |
| 15:30.10 | mETz | the code to locate files was a pita back when i looked at it |
| 15:30.18 | ajavid | well he always was |
| 15:30.45 | ajavid | cool guy |
| 15:30.48 | zepho | abrotman: the modelines for me? |
| 15:30.48 | mETz | so i lost interest, I'm not very keen to fix other peoples code if I don't get paid for it ;) |
| 15:30.56 | abrotman | zepho: no |
| 15:31.07 | zepho | sorry, nm |
| 15:31.34 | xconspirisist | here is my Xorg.0.log : http://paste.debian.net/36413/ |
| 15:31.41 | xconspirisist | It's still just a black screen :( |
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| 15:32.35 | mETz | ajavid: anyway, I fetched sources for libmath-calc-unit-perl from sid using apt-get source |
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| 15:32.59 | mETz | now I have to alter its version and distro to bpo-standards |
| 15:33.20 | mETz | afaik debchanges should do that |
| 15:33.20 | ajavid | mETz, you're packaging for BPO? |
| 15:33.24 | chomwitt_ | in lenny , in gnome i choose to automatically update some packages. after reboot my wifi wont work! in the update there also a linux-image update. what should i do? |
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| 15:33.35 | mETz | ajavid: well, not yet but in the long run I probably should |
| 15:33.38 | ajavid | mETz, join #debian-devel too on oftc then |
| 15:33.40 | ajavid | mETz, oh I see |
| 15:33.56 | mETz | ajavid: for now I want to create a repo that creates two distros: lenny and lenny-backports |
| 15:34.11 | mETz | lenny contains my own packages, lenny-backports contains pure backports from sid |
| 15:34.47 | mETz | the second is just there because these packages are not available at bpo.org yet and I want a clean separation of backports and real new packages |
| 15:35.09 | ajavid | I'm not the best person for repository setup |
| 15:35.16 | ajavid | plus I'm about to be afk |
| 15:35.24 | mETz | no problem |
| 15:35.29 | mischief6 | sid repos seem a bit slow :\ |
| 15:35.33 | xconspirisist | ajavid: Any chance you could look at my Xorg.0.log now It's uploaded? |
| 15:35.41 | mETz | mischief6: use mirrors! |
| 15:35.44 | ajavid | sorry, maybe in half hour, consult with #radeon |
| 15:35.55 | mETz | xconspirisist: where is it? |
| 15:35.59 | ajavid | thats your best bet, I'm betting the tv probably needs some specific config |
| 15:36.01 | ajavid | I dunno |
| 15:36.03 | ajavid | *AFK* |
| 15:36.03 | xconspirisist | http://paste.debian.net/36413/ |
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| 15:36.39 | mischief6 | mETz, i'm using ftp.us.debian.org in sources.list |
| 15:36.47 | mischief6 | mETz, for some reason apt-spy is segfaulting |
| 15:37.12 | mETz | well, try some closer mirror then |
| 15:37.26 | mischief6 | i would if apt-spy would work :p |
| 15:37.39 | mETz | don't know that one |
| 15:37.40 | zamba | i have a problem with my system.. every command i run makes the load go through the roof |
| 15:37.43 | zamba | what could be causing this? |
| 15:37.45 | mETz | any ftp client should do *g* |
| 15:37.55 | blouf | zamba : what do u mean ? |
| 15:38.13 | mETz | xconspirisist: (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found <- hmm |
| 15:38.22 | mETz | xconspirisist: what does your xorg.conf look like? |
| 15:38.28 | mETz | any hardcoded pci id there? |
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| 15:38.50 | zamba | blouf: every command i run that takes more than a few seconds to run, makes the load sky-rocket |
| 15:39.06 | mischief6 | zamba, maybe something funny in LD_PRELOAD ? |
| 15:39.21 | zamba | mischief6: how do i check that? |
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| 15:39.34 | mETz | xconspirisist: Output VGA-0 using monitor section Configured Monitor <- according to that line only the analogue output is active |
| 15:39.35 | mischief6 | set |
| 15:39.37 | blouf | zamba : echo |
| 15:39.43 | mETz | xconspirisist: the dvi and tv outputs are not used |
| 15:39.52 | zamba | it's empty |
| 15:39.56 | mETz | xconspirisist: line 571++ |
| 15:39.56 | zamba | if you mean echo $LD_PRELOAD |
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| 15:40.19 | blouf | yeah same here |
| 15:40.58 | mETz | xconspirisist: (EE) RADEON(0): No connected devices found! <- driver does not find any display |
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| 15:41.36 | mETz | xconspirisist: I think you could try forcing a certain configuration and bypass the i2c display detection, consult the radeon docs for that |
| 15:41.46 | mcm | is there a dpkg command to see the changelog of an installed package? |
| 15:41.59 | chomwitt_ | i updated linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 to 2.6.26-13lenny2 and now madwifi doesn work. |
| 15:42.05 | mcm | i couldn't find it on dpkg manual... |
| 15:43.44 | xconspirisist | hey, sorry, I was afk |
| 15:44.00 | mETz | time to read the backlog then |
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| 15:44.57 | Caelum | is libflashsupport not necessary anymore? |
| 15:45.10 | abrotman | when was it ? |
| 15:45.10 | xconspirisist | mETz: hmm, okay, I'll find some docs :) |
| 15:45.11 | Caelum | oh never mind |
| 15:45.24 | abrotman | chomwitt_: you probably have to redo the m-a stuff |
| 15:45.35 | mETz | nvidia cards were sooo easy to setup |
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| 15:45.44 | xconspirisist | mETz: My xorg.org is here http://paste.debian.net/36413/ (and some log after it, ignore that) |
| 15:45.50 | mETz | thankfully I have no linux-desktop anymore =) |
| 15:46.07 | xconspirisist | mETz: oops, I mean here: http://slexy.org/view/s20fHDWNgR |
| 15:46.09 | anoHito | more erros in syslog |
| 15:46.11 | anoHito | May 17 23:43:49 server kernel: res 51/40:00:92:67:a7/40:00:1b:00:00/f0 Emask 0x9 (media error) |
| 15:46.36 | anoHito | May 17 23:43:49 server kernel: ata2.01: status: { DRDY ERR } May 17 23:43:49 server kernel: ata2.01: error: { UNC } |
| 15:46.37 | mETz | xconspirisist: ah ok, so it's basically autodetection |
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| 15:46.41 | chomwitt_ | abrotman: thanks. |
| 15:46.42 | xconspirisist | mm |
| 15:46.47 | konr | how can I install debian unstable? |
| 15:46.59 | xconspirisist | mETz: Should I try defining a display manually? |
| 15:47.13 | mETz | konr: the same way you would install debian stable |
| 15:47.18 | Polarina | konr: No, you should never use sid. |
| 15:47.29 | mETz | xconspirisist: you should try to find out how to fix the display detection |
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| 15:47.40 | mETz | xconspirisist: i2c is used for that and somehow it fails big time for your setup |
| 15:47.49 | xconspirisist | ah, heh, okay |
| 15:47.56 | mETz | Polarina: that's not exactly true :) |
| 15:48.02 | mETz | I used sid for years |
| 15:48.07 | konr | mETz: but there is no downloadable image for debian unstable :( |
| 15:48.11 | konr | Polarina: why? |
| 15:48.17 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 15:48.17 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use <stable> or <testing> instead. |
| 15:48.25 | mETz | but of course you have to live with major breakages if you use sid |
| 15:48.37 | abrotman | mETz: please don't tell people here to use it |
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| 15:49.05 | mETz | konr: there's no image because it's not meant to be used by normal users |
| 15:49.07 | Polarina | konr: Because it can break at any time (and it does so very frequently) |
| 15:49.13 | blouf | konr: i guess u can install the testing one, and use sid repository |
| 15:49.18 | abrotman | blouf: stop |
| 15:49.30 | mETz | konr: basically your initial question already disqualifies you as somebody to use sid ;) |
| 15:49.37 | abrotman | if you don't know how to get your machine running sid/unstable, you shouldn't be using it |
| 15:49.47 | mETz | yep |
| 15:49.54 | konr | mETz: my other box runs sid, and I had terrible problems with testing |
| 15:50.04 | abrotman | konr: so use stable |
| 15:50.07 | mETz | konr: stable is called stable for a reason |
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| 15:50.18 | konr | but I'm not in 1996! |
| 15:50.29 | \amethyst | huh? |
| 15:50.31 | mETz | neither is lenny |
| 15:50.38 | abrotman | konr: lenny was released three months ago |
| 15:50.46 | mETz | these old myths will never stop living, will they? *sigh* |
| 15:50.58 | mETz | plus there's backports.org |
| 15:51.18 | maheshm | where can i get some howto on porting debian packages to other arch |
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| 15:52.30 | mETz | basically get the source and try building it on that arch |
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| 15:53.24 | maheshm | mETz: thank you, just wanted to confirm! :) |
| 15:53.30 | poisonbit | maheshm, any arch in special ? |
| 15:54.03 | mETz | and for exotic things I would build manually from upstream sources first and take care of the debian packaging afterwards |
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| 15:54.32 | maheshm | hurdi386 |
| 15:54.32 | mETz | otherwise you might get swamped with errors without knowing if it's related to packaging or the source itself |
| 15:54.55 | mETz | hurd? reminds me of duke nukem forever ;) |
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| 15:55.23 | \amethyst | porting to hurd might take a little more work than porting to another Linux architecture |
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| 15:55.51 | maheshm | hmmm.. |
| 15:55.52 | poisonbit | http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-devel-debian |
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| 15:56.09 | mne | Hi. On a thinkpad x61 i have a strange usb problem: while usb storage devices work, all other devices (keyboards, mice, serial dongles, bluetooth dongles, ...) do not work at all. Neither the kernel writes anything to the log nor does lsusb show any the connected devices. Did anyone else have these problems ? |
| 15:59.07 | maheshm | poisonbit: thank you. |
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| 15:59.14 | maheshm | thank you all |
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| 16:00.00 | poisonbit | mne, i don't (i've a t41) but you can try a "clean" debian live (there are with gnome and kde) or search about in the thinkpad + linux wiki |
| 16:00.41 | poisonbit | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X_Series |
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| 16:02.58 | konr | how debian's windows installer works? Is there a boot manager in windows? |
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| 16:03.06 | konr | one that can boot into linux? |
| 16:03.08 | Mikey^ | Hey |
| 16:03.31 | konr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.34 | Mikey^ | I installed splashy, a package that enables a boot splash for debian |
| 16:03.48 | Mikey^ | but on boot I see some xml parse error |
| 16:03.56 | Mikey^ | and reverts to text boot |
| 16:04.03 | Mikey^ | I use debian etch |
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| 16:04.43 | Mikey^ | anyone has any idea |
| 16:05.33 | poisonbit | Mikey^, have you follow any howto ? |
| 16:05.47 | Mikey^ | there was an how to for installation |
| 16:05.56 | Mikey^ | but it was only for testing/sid |
| 16:06.04 | poisonbit | url ? |
| 16:06.34 | Mikey^ | http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/installation |
| 16:06.52 | Mikey^ | I also installed a older version 1.8.1 |
| 16:07.05 | Mikey^ | because it depends on a newer version of glibc |
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| 16:09.01 | Mikey^ | how do I purge splashy package |
| 16:09.08 | Mikey^ | so that I can install them once again |
| 16:09.14 | poisonbit | aptitude purge splashy |
| 16:09.17 | draemon | sudo apt-get remove --pulge splashy |
| 16:09.24 | draemon | s/pulge/purge/g |
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| 16:09.59 | Mikey^ | ok brb |
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| 16:10.05 | Mikey^ | reboots |
| 16:10.07 | poisonbit | I think there was a command: "splashy test" that you can launch from a normal tty |
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| 16:10.41 | Mikey^ | FATAL: splashy_video.c <706>: |
| 16:10.41 | Mikey^ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:10.55 | nabian | yesterday I installed debian 5 whit lxde today I changed the resolution to 1024*768 and apeared lines I thinked It was by the frecuency I changed it and didn't change anything...I have a CRT monitor |
| 16:10.56 | Mikey^ | thats what I get when I try to run splashy test |
| 16:11.10 | nabian | Lg studioworks 550M |
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| 16:11.59 | Mikey^ | anyone seen that error before ? |
| 16:12.30 | poisonbit | Mikey^, grep vga /boot/grub/menu.lst ?? |
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| 16:13.02 | Mikey^ | ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 |
| 16:13.11 | poisonbit | mmm |
| 16:13.18 | poisonbit | you need to follow the howto |
| 16:13.19 | poisonbit | :) |
| 16:13.22 | Mikey^ | shall I uncomment that |
| 16:13.24 | poisonbit | "Make sure that you have âvga=791 splashâ as kernel parameters. You can add this to /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf. See the FAQ section for more. " |
| 16:13.28 | riot | wow, that arpwatch bug making it eat 100% cpu is not so neat |
| 16:14.33 | poisonbit | MikeH, no that line is an example (## e.g.) |
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| 16:14.41 | poisonbit | sorry Mikey^, |
| 16:14.55 | mne | poisonbit, hmm, I'll try that on an usb stick. But I guess it's the kernel causing the trouble |
| 16:14.59 | Mikey^ | Looks like I need to enabled kernel fb |
| 16:15.07 | Mikey^ | I have not enabled that while configuring X |
| 16:15.10 | Mikey^ | do I need to do that ? |
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| 16:15.17 | Mikey^ | or does it not use X |
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| 16:15.38 | Mikey^ | I`m looking at this, http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/wiki/faq |
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| 16:15.56 | poisonbit | Mikey^, you need to add these words, in the grub menu.lst, in the line that says: # defoptions= |
| 16:16.07 | poisonbit | and then as root: update-grub |
| 16:16.12 | darkbulb | I am having a problem getting iceweasel to work with skillsoft online learning - it uses the browser agent string to determine access rights and when i forge it with user agent switcher the browser crashes |
| 16:16.27 | Mikey^ | poisonbit: I added vga=791 splash to the kernel line |
| 16:16.33 | Mikey^ | what do I need to add to #defoptions |
| 16:16.44 | Mikey^ | I have changed anything or uncommented it |
| 16:16.53 | riot | wow, that bug is classified as normal.. i'd rate it severe. Eats batteries, thermalshutsdown badly cooled boxes, slowly neuters male notebook users.... |
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| 16:17.11 | poisonbit | Mikey^, you should read the comments when you edit a file |
| 16:17.25 | poisonbit | Mikey^, in debian you shouldn't add nothing in the kernel line |
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| 16:17.35 | poisonbit | you should add it in the defoptions line |
| 16:17.38 | g00se_ | darkbulb: I see. I suppose it determines that it's only lower beings using IE..? |
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| 16:17.57 | poisonbit | Mikey^, if not, your options will be overwrited on each upgrade |
| 16:18.27 | Mikey^ | okay |
| 16:18.58 | poisonbit | Mikey^, and your splashy haven't nothing with your Xorg |
| 16:19.01 | darkbulb | I guess |
| 16:19.22 | edju | I'm running the 2.6.26-2-686 kernel, and can't get a virtual terminal from X. I'm missing any fb* in /dev. The kernel does not have CONFIG_FB_BOOT_VESA_SUPPORT option - it simply does not exist. Could that be the problem? |
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| 16:19.57 | g00se_ | darkbulb: That *was* a joke. Try a different UA string |
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| 16:21.11 | darkbulb | g00se_: tried IE Opera and Netscape I am now trying Firefox 2 |
| 16:21.38 | limpio | hi all what is a SGML file? |
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| 16:21.58 | maheshm | if i have a raw disk and i want to partition it to say ext3, can i use mkfs.ext3 directly? |
| 16:22.07 | unomi | sillicon graphics markup language I believe |
| 16:22.10 | \amethyst | limpio: text with markup, possibly old (pre-XML) docbook |
| 16:22.26 | limpio | thx guys |
| 16:22.35 | \amethyst | standard generalized markup language; ultimately from IBM, not SGI |
| 16:22.46 | g00se_ | darkbulb: It could be the plugin that's the problem, not the UA string. Try doing it with about:config http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/24/changinguseragent.html |
| 16:22.52 | unomi | learn something new :) |
| 16:23.48 | g00se_ | darkbulb: And what's the deal with that UA string/access rights thing anyway? |
| 16:23.53 | darkbulb | thanks g00se_ |
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| 16:25.21 | Mikey^ | Hi poisonbit |
| 16:25.26 | Mikey^ | It doesnt work still |
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| 16:25.30 | g00se_ | darkbulb: (You should report the site if it's got some kind of dodgy policy) |
| 16:25.47 | Mikey^ | I have changed the defoptions and also did update-grub |
| 16:26.04 | Mikey^ | splashy doesnt work, but even vga=791 doesnt reflect |
| 16:26.14 | poisonbit | Mikey^, are your tty's using framebuffer or not ? |
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| 16:26.25 | poisonbit | that may be the problem |
| 16:26.27 | konr | how debian's windows installer works? Is there a boot manager in windows that can boot to linux? |
| 16:26.38 | g00se_ | limpio: it's the superset of mostly all tagged markup languages |
| 16:26.44 | poisonbit | konr, th standar ntloader can boot other systems |
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| 16:27.01 | Mikey^ | poisonbit: how do i check that ? |
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| 16:27.15 | poisonbit | Mikey^, may be your vga or monitor can't have 1024x768 in test mode ? |
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| 16:27.20 | PeterKraus | hello guys |
| 16:27.22 | poisonbit | you can try other resolutions |
| 16:27.31 | Mikey^ | poisonbit: I have tried 791 |
| 16:27.39 | poisonbit | 788 is for 800x600 |
| 16:27.40 | PeterKraus | i get "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory" error on my soundcard |
| 16:27.50 | Mikey^ | and it has worked before, (i.e) with other distros |
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| 16:27.57 | PeterKraus | which is Yahama YMF-754 |
| 16:27.57 | nabian | whats rong here? http://www.pastebin.ca/1425550 |
| 16:28.03 | PeterKraus | modules seem to be loaded properly |
| 16:28.14 | Mikey^ | how do I check if my tty has fb or not ? |
| 16:28.20 | Mikey^ | I think this is the problem |
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| 16:28.30 | g00se_ | Did i dream this or has Vista got some kind of 'inbuilt' dual-booting functionality? |
| 16:28.43 | Mikey^ | because when I run splashy test I get this error |
| 16:28.48 | abrotman | nabian: is there an error ? |
| 16:28.51 | Mikey^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.51 | poisonbit | Mikey^, have you added vga=blabla to de ## e.g. defopt... or to the; # defoptions= ? |
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| 16:29.17 | poisonbit | Mikey^, thats because you are in standar mode and not in framebuffer mode |
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| 16:30.23 | Mikey^ | defoptions= 791 splash |
| 16:30.29 | poisonbit | bad |
| 16:30.36 | poisonbit | whereis tha comment ? |
| 16:30.47 | Mikey^ | it has to be inside the comment |
| 16:30.48 | poisonbit | it is explicity writed in the file |
| 16:30.48 | Mikey^ | ok |
| 16:30.49 | DarkX | hello often i have a canceling internet connection where can i read why the connection closed? |
| 16:30.58 | poisonbit | you don't have to uncomment |
| 16:31.00 | poisonbit | :) |
| 16:31.10 | Mikey^ | ok |
| 16:31.18 | Mikey^ | do i need to run update-grub after that ? |
| 16:31.23 | poisonbit | yup |
| 16:31.41 | Mikey^ | rebooting |
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| 16:31.47 | nabian | abrotman: X dont starts |
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| 16:32.02 | abrotman | nabian: is there an error in the log ? |
| 16:32.04 | enouf | yay for the new alsa in squeeze sid .. what a POFS |
| 16:32.22 | abrotman | Pile Of Fresh Squid ? |
| 16:32.27 | nabian | where is the log? |
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| 16:32.31 | nabian | abrotman: |
| 16:32.36 | walken | Yop |
| 16:32.42 | abrotman | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:32.53 | enouf | abrotman: don't make me laugh .. i'm not ready to yet :-p |
| 16:33.07 | DarkX | ehere is the log of the internet connection? |
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| 16:33.23 | enouf | what? |
| 16:33.47 | enouf | try /var/log/dhcp* perhaps |
| 16:33.57 | DarkX | where is the log of the internet connection becasuse my internet connection close often |
| 16:34.22 | enouf | maybe your ISP is disconnecting you |
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| 16:34.38 | DarkX | no,a windows 7 pc has a network bridge |
| 16:34.47 | enouf | what? |
| 16:34.52 | DarkX | and i am connect direct to the other pc via lan |
| 16:35.04 | DarkX | snd the pc havnt got a internet closeing |
| 16:35.04 | claint | if the problem is in your machine, as in your ethernet is going up and down, you might see in /var/log/messages perhaps. |
| 16:35.05 | enouf | runs away, shaking his head |
| 16:35.06 | g00se_ | nabian: try s/Configurated/Configured |
| 16:36.06 | poisonbit | DarkX, do you use iptables ? and do you've a cablemodem wtih dhcp? |
| 16:36.14 | DarkX | claint there is no text in messages |
| 16:36.25 | DarkX | iptablesÃ?? cablemodem with dhcp? |
| 16:36.33 | DarkX | -i am unterstanding nothing |
| 16:36.44 | DarkX | i am connect direct to other pc |
| 16:36.57 | DarkX | and this pc has a network bridge |
| 16:37.07 | DarkX | and this pc is connected to the router |
| 16:37.18 | DarkX | and the router is connected to the modem |
| 16:37.42 | darkbulb | DarkX: do you have to dial a phone number to connect |
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| 16:38.31 | DarkX | no |
| 16:38.38 | poisonbit | DarkX, when you loose conection... you can look "ping the_other_pc" and mii-tool to see the ethernet status |
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| 16:39.22 | DarkX | miitool? |
| 16:39.29 | squisher | hey, does anyone know how I can switch keyboard layouts from a script with the new hal configured devices in xorg 7.4? |
| 16:39.54 | poisonbit | DarkX, yes, it's a command to see the link status |
| 16:40.01 | DarkX | okay |
| 16:40.04 | poisonbit | DarkX, may be your other pc network card, enters in "power save mode" and disconect you ? |
| 16:40.42 | poisonbit | if the network is loosing the link, there should be messages in /var/log/messages |
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| 16:41.07 | nabian | g00se_: |
| 16:41.22 | nabian | it says that dontexist |
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| 16:42.15 | nabian | abrotman: the log have some out of range and a Fatal Server Error: screen not found |
| 16:42.17 | g00se_ | nabian: What don't? |
| 16:42.22 | DarkX | poisonbit you have right, there was thecomputer can shutdown the hardware to save energy was enabled |
| 16:42.51 | nabian | g00se_: s/Configurated/Configured |
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| 16:43.24 | g00se_ | nabian: It's 'Configured Monitor' afaik |
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| 16:46.51 | anoHito | can use use phpmyadmin to download database ? |
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| 16:47.13 | Polarina | anoHito: Yes. |
| 16:47.20 | Polarina | anoHito: Hit 'Export'. |
| 16:47.37 | anoHito | Polarina, that will export as a standard .sql file ? |
| 16:47.46 | Polarina | anoHito: Yes. |
| 16:47.54 | anoHito | Polarina, Thanks. |
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| 16:52.30 | DarkX | hmm internet connection loosed the energy save is not the issue |
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| 16:52.45 | DarkX | but i have made a pink cant recive the other pc |
| 16:54.09 | DarkX | in kmailhow can i setup that i always see html in mail |
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| 16:55.00 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 16:56.18 | Azrael_- | i want to configure a programm using debconf with a batch-file for an automatic installation. but no matter what setting i've given to debconf (readline / non-interactive) it doesn't accept any automatic input. how can i accomplish this task? |
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| 16:59.11 | xlotlu | is it possible to create a "recovery" initrd? something that doesn't mount root / run init, but launches a shell and packages fsck etc..? |
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| 17:01.20 | anoHito | Polarina, there ? |
| 17:01.34 | anoHito | Polarina, in phpmyadmin,it asks me if i use compress to import ? |
| 17:01.38 | anoHito | to export,oops. |
| 17:01.39 | claint | xlotlu: i guess you actually don't want booting in safe mode? |
| 17:02.19 | xlotlu | claint: nope. just booting with a different initrd that behaves somewhat like a "rescue disk" |
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| 17:02.38 | poisonbit | anoHito, .zql files are plain text, you will be a good ratio if you use compresion |
| 17:02.43 | poisonbit | .sql sorry |
| 17:03.21 | anoHito | poisonbit, i should not select using compress right ? |
| 17:03.32 | poisonbit | why ? |
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| 17:03.50 | poisonbit | anoHito, wath are you going to do with the exported file ? |
| 17:03.56 | claint | xlotlu: i would rather make a rescue disk or rescue usb then. (maybe if it is a remote machine you cannot reach physically, then hmmm.) |
| 17:04.14 | poisonbit | anoHito, you can import compressed files also |
| 17:04.28 | anoHito | poisonbit, will be used to import it in phpmyadmin. |
| 17:05.04 | poisonbit | so it will work in both ways compressed and uncompressed |
| 17:05.17 | anoHito | okay,then how about this one,in the bottom |
| 17:05.22 | poisonbit | and finally... it will be a plain text file compressed or uncompressed |
| 17:05.34 | xlotlu | claint: i have a habit of misplacing my usb drives. and there's really no point in using some external disk since you could use an initrd for the task.. |
| 17:05.45 | poisonbit | you can unzip gunzip or bunzip it at any time |
| 17:05.45 | anoHito | it says save as file ...file name module ... |
| 17:05.51 | anoHito | (1) This value is interpreted using strftime, so you can use time formatting strings. Additionally the following transformations will happen: __SERVER__/server name. Other text will be kept as is. |
| 17:06.47 | anoHito | ? |
| 17:06.52 | xlotlu | claint: here's my attempt at hacking an existing initrd: http://dpaste.com/45044/ .. i tried running bash before root gets normally mounted, but it fails |
| 17:06.55 | poisonbit | anoHito, I never touch that option, only compresion... and sometimes "add drop table" and "add if not exist" |
| 17:07.11 | claint | xlotlu: yeah but initrd's are like mini kernels, which actually help you boot the real thing. you wouldn't be able too put too much stuff in there, unless you want to make a rescue partition as well, but I am actually ignorant on the matter of initrd hacking i guess. |
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| 17:09.19 | xlotlu | claint: initrds are more like mini-roots. the kernel is already loaded. and it's a ram disk, so you should be able to put a lot inside it |
| 17:09.30 | maximi89 | hi people! |
| 17:09.35 | buntfalke | So. Now that the we-build-an-open-JRE-hype is somewhat over, which JRE/JDK should I install to get the best open jre-plugin avail. for iceweasel? |
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| 17:10.11 | buntfalke | cacao? openjdk? |
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| 17:10.29 | tnks | is there any CLI version of gnome-device-manager? |
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| 17:11.01 | anoHito | by the way,besides init 0, what other command to shut down also power off the server completely ? |
| 17:11.15 | buntfalke | Which application shows the license the package is distributed under? like: apt-license foo --> BSD-License |
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| 17:11.34 | poisonbit | anoHito, see -P in man shutdown |
| 17:11.42 | craigubuntu2 | hey all :d |
| 17:11.49 | anoHito | shutdown -p now ? |
| 17:12.06 | poisonbit | anoHito, anyway, with acpy or apm well configured, normal shutdown -h now works |
| 17:12.07 | xlotlu | anoHito: poweroff; shutdown -P -h now |
| 17:12.13 | Azrael_- | if i use less and want to send a command i get the text "ESCOM" every time i hit enter. how can this be? |
| 17:12.14 | hark | buntfalke: licensecheck in devscripts |
| 17:12.18 | craigubuntu2 | Anyone any good with apache - It isnt processing php files |
| 17:12.19 | anoHito | oh . |
| 17:12.20 | buntfalke | hark: thanks |
| 17:12.23 | poisonbit | anoHito, -P uppercase |
| 17:12.27 | craigubuntu2 | i installed apache2 |
| 17:12.31 | poisonbit | in the man page |
| 17:12.31 | craigubuntu2 | and php 5 |
| 17:12.32 | xlotlu | kill -1 .. :) |
| 17:12.41 | craigubuntu2 | and mod-libapache2-php3 |
| 17:12.42 | xlotlu | errm kill 1 |
| 17:12.44 | craigubuntu2 | sorry 5 |
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| 17:12.47 | abrotman | craigubuntu2: using which verison of debian ? |
| 17:12.50 | poisonbit | xlotlu, if there are power management problems kill 1 doesn't work |
| 17:12.53 | craigubuntu2 | 5 |
| 17:13.04 | anoHito | Thanks. |
| 17:13.05 | craigubuntu2 | version 5 abrot |
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| 17:13.15 | abrotman | try a different browser |
| 17:13.16 | hark | craigubuntu2: clear the cache and restart yoru browser |
| 17:13.56 | xlotlu | i can't believe it nobody tried making a rescue initrd before me |
| 17:14.11 | craigubuntu2 | lol |
| 17:14.12 | craigubuntu2 | damn |
| 17:14.14 | craigubuntu2 | hark! |
| 17:14.17 | craigubuntu2 | i cant believe that |
| 17:14.18 | abrotman | craigubuntu2: stop hitting enter |
| 17:14.25 | craigubuntu2 | STOOOPID! my new nick |
| 17:14.26 | abrotman | god damn annoying |
| 17:14.29 | buntfalke | hark: is there a database? licensecheck seems to work on the deb-files only. |
| 17:14.48 | craigubuntu2 | sopt hitting enter? |
| 17:14.49 | poisonbit | xlotlu, debian-installer is the perfect rescue environment (lvm, raid, etc, etc) |
| 17:14.53 | abrotman | !tell craigubuntu2 about enter |
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| 17:15.27 | xlotlu | poisonbit: i don't want the debian installer. i just want a custom initrd.. |
| 17:15.38 | buntfalke | hark: as in, it is hard to make a search like: GPL-packages with keyword X in description |
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| 17:16.12 | xlotlu | ha. somebody did try before: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=159287 -- 4 years ago, and they revived the bug this year |
| 17:16.28 | craigubuntu2 | sorry what about this enter? |
| 17:16.39 | claint | xlotlu: it sounds quite possible to do then. where are you having the problem? |
| 17:16.46 | hark | buntfalke: you mean not for individual source files but packages? |
| 17:17.38 | claint | xlotlu: ah ok, can't run bash |
| 17:17.47 | xlotlu | ^^ |
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| 17:18.22 | buntfalke | hark: the task is to find a package with one of some license, that does a certain job, i would have to download all candidate-deb-packages and then check for the license with licensechecker - which takes time and traffic |
| 17:18.59 | buntfalke | hark: having "aptitude show" display the license as well, or something similar, is what i'd like. |
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| 17:20.26 | hark | buntfalke: no, nothing like that afaik |
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| 17:22.44 | buntfalke | imho there should be debtags for that. |
| 17:23.20 | g00se_ | buntfalke: The license will be in a file won't it? |
| 17:23.47 | petemc | buntfalke: which licenses do you wish to avoid? |
| 17:24.02 | stoopid | abrot, sorry got the enter thing now - will behave in the future, Hark that was issue - silly mistake from my side. |
| 17:24.04 | xlotlu | claint: i think i need to do /bin/bash -i </dev/console >/dev/console 2>&1 |
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| 17:28.16 | claint | xlotlu: i just uncompressed my initrd image to see what's in it. |
| 17:28.36 | xlotlu | a root filesystem is in it :) |
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| 17:29.33 | claint | xlotlu: yeah, that is expected, but as i said, i am trying to figure out... your idea sounded interesting. |
| 17:30.36 | buntfalke | petemc: nothing in particular, i just use this to sort out, if i cant decide which package is better for me |
| 17:30.48 | buntfalke | g00se_: sure, but debtagging them would be handy as well |
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| 17:31.26 | xlotlu | time to test this |
| 17:31.29 | macman_ | hi all .. can you boot an os from a logical parition ? |
| 17:31.31 | g00se_ | buntfalke: If you find out what that file is, then apt-file might do it for you |
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| 17:34.06 | maximi89 | who have the problem when you hibernate fails to power offf? |
| 17:34.18 | maximi89 | any platform, any kernel |
| 17:34.24 | maximi89 | some body? |
| 17:34.41 | maximi89 | like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/226069 |
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| 17:37.42 | maximi89 | maybe can uswsusp http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=500960 |
| 17:37.58 | twinkie_addict | wich version of java is in the repos ? im not sure what to tell apt to get it i need it for jedit |
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| 17:38.20 | pickcoder | twinkie_addict: search for it? |
| 17:38.36 | claint | twinkie_addict: there are buncha package options for java. |
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| 17:40.33 | xlotlu | claint: so my loading of init failed because i forgot to do +x on it |
| 17:40.46 | claint | *chuckle* |
| 17:40.48 | xlotlu | and i also need a populated /dev. but it should work |
| 17:41.03 | claint | isn't it udev anyway? |
| 17:41.31 | xlotlu | i'm not sure how to run udev and cause it to populate /dev |
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| 17:41.41 | xlotlu | too lazy to read right now |
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| 17:44.33 | xlotlu | now, why oh why don't i get an initrd from a make-kpkg kernel. think it's something to do with recent changes |
| 17:44.45 | pickcoder | did you specify --initrd? |
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| 17:44.56 | xlotlu | yup |
| 17:45.21 | Mallxs | Working in ksh i have functions in a separate file that i try to . source in to my script;but but the first function anyname { gives me a error there |
| 17:45.22 | xlotlu | afaik the "debian way" for making a kernel has changed and make-kpkg is being phased out |
| 17:45.25 | anoHito | May 18 01:41:10 server kernel: I/O error in filesystem ("sda3") meta-data dev sda3 block 0x1b68e550 ("xfs_trans_read_buf") error 5 buf count 8192 |
| 17:45.58 | anoHito | i really want to slap the datacentre for improper shutting down on a dying HDD. |
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| 17:46.18 | maximi891 | hey guys |
| 17:46.24 | CHEN | hello |
| 17:46.27 | Mallxs | anoHito: try spinrite |
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| 17:46.37 | maximi891 | no body have the problem when hibernate fails to poweroff? |
| 17:46.39 | maximi891 | no body? |
| 17:46.57 | maximi891 | i found the bug, was a bad set |
| 17:47.04 | maximi891 | on etc/uswsusp.conf |
| 17:47.24 | anoHito | Mallxs, too late. |
| 17:47.32 | maximi891 | if you put cat /sys/power/disk |
| 17:47.33 | maximi891 | [platform] test testproc shutdown reboot |
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| 17:47.39 | claint | maximi89: mail the bug report link then :) |
| 17:47.40 | maximi891 | that say shutdown |
| 17:47.50 | maximi891 | ;) |
| 17:48.17 | Mallxs | anoHito: http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm |
| 17:48.48 | ElemonGW | what's going on with the businesscard daily builds? why haven't they been built for some time now? i used the latest one and it created an badly-configured system |
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| 17:49.38 | abrotman | then use stable installer and dist-upgrade |
| 17:50.59 | twinkie_addict | ah bugger ill just go with emacs : |
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| 17:54.38 | poisonbit | The same emacs (GNU/Emacs as Stallman) that spends money from the FSF to compile on windows ? |
| 17:55.20 | Mallxs | anyone here knows why i can't a file with functions in ksh ? |
| 17:55.40 | Mallxs | can't source |
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| 17:56.04 | poisonbit | how're you sourcing it ? with dot or whit "source" ? |
| 17:56.21 | Mallxs | with the dot |
| 17:56.41 | Mallxs | shoud i use source or something ? |
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| 17:57.57 | Mallxs | nothing with source in de man page |
| 17:58.00 | poisonbit | no |
| 17:58.06 | poisonbit | try a full path for the file |
| 17:58.21 | Mallxs | ok |
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| 17:58.34 | poisonbit | dot is fine |
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| 17:59.29 | poisonbit | if you don't want a full path, try: . ./script.ksh |
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| 18:19.02 | Mallxs | poisonbit: It works now strange %s/^M$// did the trick seems only the function declaration has a problem with it |
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| 18:19.32 | maximi891 | guys who have on /etc/uswsusp.conf the line shutdown method = shutdown |
| 18:19.48 | maximi891 | and who have other than that? |
| 18:19.54 | Clemens | Can anyone tell me where I can find settings to enable the possibility to use ImageMagick ? |
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| 18:20.44 | Mallxs | maximi891: do you have shutdown problems on a eee ? |
| 18:20.45 | maximi891 | i found a lot of bug tracks with that problem, but only one of maitainers of debian sayinf debconf can be the problem... because the new uswsusp dont have the problem... |
| 18:20.49 | DarkX | help me my internet connection alwayscrashes |
| 18:20.53 | DarkX | it must be debian |
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| 18:21.03 | maximi891 | mallxs: no i don't have on eee, only with my desktoip |
| 18:21.05 | DarkX | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.09 | maximi891 | what problem you have? |
| 18:21.29 | maximi891 | Darkx: what ethernet card you have? |
| 18:21.45 | DarkX | where ca i look |
| 18:21.50 | DarkX | its onboard |
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| 18:22.16 | maximi891 | uhmmm lspci? |
| 18:22.29 | maximi891 | but on pastebin.ca |
| 18:22.34 | maximi891 | www.pastebin.ca |
| 18:22.49 | DarkX | Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1) |
| 18:23.05 | maximi891 | now |
| 18:23.11 | maximi891 | lspci -an and put on pastebin |
| 18:23.18 | maximi891 | sorry |
| 18:23.23 | maximi891 | lspci -vn |
| 18:23.51 | Mallxs | maximi891: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=1859 |
| 18:24.13 | DarkX | http://pastebin.ca/1425660 |
| 18:24.31 | maximi891 | ok i going to see :P |
| 18:24.41 | Mallxs | maybe it will work for you to |
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| 18:25.53 | maximi891 | mallxs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495319 |
| 18:26.02 | maximi891 | darkx: give the dmesg |
| 18:27.27 | maximi891 | or the syslog |
| 18:27.28 | DarkX | http://pastebin.ca/1425663 here maxima891 |
| 18:27.32 | maximi891 | ok |
| 18:28.04 | maximi891 | what about the problem? |
| 18:28.12 | maximi891 | dont configure automatically? |
| 18:28.16 | maximi891 | dont works? |
| 18:28.21 | maximi891 | ping the router? |
| 18:28.27 | maximi891 | dhclient works? |
| 18:28.38 | DarkX | it get ip over dhcp |
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| 18:28.50 | DarkX | what should i say |
| 18:28.53 | DarkX | idont know more |
| 18:29.03 | Mallxs | maximi891: i'm booting my debian desktop and will chrck what i'm using |
| 18:29.04 | maximi891 | what ip take? |
| 18:29.07 | DarkX | often my connectrion get away and imust restart the oc |
| 18:29.12 | DarkX | the ip |
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| 18:29.24 | maximi891 | mallxs: chrck? |
| 18:29.35 | DarkX | dont know whatip ithink the internal and external |
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| 18:30.00 | Mallxs | check |
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| 18:30.30 | maximi891 | darkx: try with sudo ifconfig |
| 18:30.37 | DarkX | maximi891 xits when i have lot traffic |
| 18:30.39 | deufrai | hi there. Is there a way to have apache uncompress 'on the fly' .gz files form /usr/share/doc ? Already asked on #apache and got no answer |
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| 18:31.08 | mETz | DarkX: check /proc/interrupts for interrupt-sharing between the nic and other hardware |
| 18:31.23 | mETz | also check if the ERRORS line in this file shows 0 |
| 18:31.26 | DarkX | its a little bit german: http://pastebin.ca/1425666 |
| 18:32.00 | maximi891 | mallxs: you are now on an eee? |
| 18:32.08 | DarkX | interrupts is blank |
| 18:32.28 | mETz | can't be |
| 18:32.30 | maximi891 | darkx: cat /proc/interrupts blank? |
| 18:33.06 | mETz | I bet that system is completely unstable in its enterity :D |
| 18:33.14 | maximi891 | ahahaha |
| 18:33.20 | DarkX | oh i have opened it with kedit |
| 18:33.37 | DarkX | iterrupts: http://pastebin.ca/1425669 |
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| 18:34.09 | DarkX | when i download big datas then the connection will get down i think |
| 18:34.10 | Mallxs | maximi891: sorry i don't have uswsusp installed |
| 18:34.12 | maximi891 | darkx: you have two ethernet cards, true? |
| 18:34.17 | DarkX | no |
| 18:34.19 | DarkX | one |
| 18:34.31 | abrotman | DarkX: did you try a liveCD to see if it still happens ? |
| 18:34.33 | mETz | probably the usual nforce-is-worse-than-realtek bug |
| 18:34.43 | DarkX | no |
| 18:34.50 | DarkX | what for a bug? |
| 18:34.55 | maximi891 | mallxs: try installing it, uswsusp, maybe works for you, and you have the tuxonice? |
| 18:34.55 | Mallxs | DarkX: not also one sneaky on the MB |
| 18:35.18 | maximi891 | darkx: you are on other computer now? |
| 18:35.35 | DarkX | no |
| 18:35.38 | maximi891 | uhmmm |
| 18:35.44 | DarkX | actually my connection worjs |
| 18:36.05 | Mallxs | I fist will check is suspend is working now ok |
| 18:36.21 | DarkX | what shpuld i do |
| 18:36.24 | maximi891 | try this, |
| 18:36.24 | maximi891 | sudo rmmod forcedeth |
| 18:36.24 | maximi891 | sudo modprobe forcedeth |
| 18:36.24 | maximi891 | dmesg |
| 18:36.24 | maximi891 | and pastebin.ca |
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| 18:36.49 | mETz | DarkX: try installing a cheap pci nic and use that instead of the onboard one |
| 18:37.00 | mETz | lol |
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| 18:37.29 | maximi891 | lol |
| 18:37.31 | mETz | notes rtl8196 is pure crap too :D |
| 18:37.35 | maximi891 | mallxs: but suspend works ok? what about hibernate? that don't works |
| 18:37.51 | maximi891 | darkx: try this |
| 18:37.57 | maximi891 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.04 | maximi891 | sudo modprobe forcedeth |
| 18:38.09 | maximi891 | dmesg |
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| 18:38.14 | abrotman | sudo ? |
| 18:38.15 | maximi891 | and pstebin all |
| 18:38.23 | abrotman | maximi891: please stop hitting enter so often |
| 18:38.23 | dvs | don't use rmmod. Use "modprobe -r" |
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| 18:38.32 | DarkX | here: http://pastebin.ca/1425677 |
| 18:38.48 | DarkX | the internet connection was canceled nmfor a little seconds |
| 18:39.05 | maximi891 | abrotman: sorry |
| 18:39.30 | DarkX | did u recived the link |
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| 18:39.35 | maximi891 | yes |
| 18:39.37 | DarkX | k |
| 18:39.38 | abrotman | would get a real NIC :) |
| 18:40.30 | mETz | the problem is finding a real _and_ affordable one |
| 18:40.41 | DarkX | whats NIC? |
| 18:40.42 | maximi891 | darkx: what say your /boot/grub/menu.lst or grub.cfg? |
| 18:40.51 | DarkX | cat .. ? |
| 18:40.54 | maximi891 | yes |
| 18:40.56 | mETz | DarkX: network interface card aka netzwerkkarte ;) |
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| 18:41.13 | DarkX | nic ist netzwerkkarte? |
| 18:41.14 | maximi891 | aka "tarjeta de red" |
| 18:41.16 | mETz | yes |
| 18:41.25 | mETz | just shorter (and in english) ;) |
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| 18:41.56 | Mallxs | maximi891: sorry but my suspend workss great with out the pkg ..i'm going to leave it lake that |
| 18:42.12 | Mallxs | s/lake/like/ |
| 18:42.17 | DarkX | menu.lst: http://pastebin.ca/1425685 |
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| 18:42.21 | maximi891 | mallxs: pkg? |
| 18:42.22 | mETz | darkx: the forcedeth driver for your onboard-card is not very stable |
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| 18:42.34 | mETz | DarkX: and the chipset itself is quite buggy |
| 18:42.38 | Mallxs | uswsusp |
| 18:42.43 | DarkX | ah mEtz is there an stble availbe? |
| 18:42.53 | DarkX | because on ubuntu iternet work fine |
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| 18:43.22 | DarkX | where is grub.cfg? |
| 18:43.37 | mETz | your logs do not show any real problem |
| 18:43.42 | maximi891 | depend if you have grub 0.97 or 1.97 |
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| 18:44.19 | maximi891 | metz: i have a problem very similar, but in my case was a module dont work in my kernel |
| 18:44.26 | DarkX | where is the grub.cfg? |
| 18:44.29 | maximi891 | Davicom, tulip and dmfe modules |
| 18:44.36 | mETz | darkx: http://www.ende-der-vernunft.org/tag/forcedeth/ |
| 18:44.37 | DarkX | and how do i know which grub version i have |
| 18:44.52 | mETz | maximi891: which means? |
| 18:44.55 | maximi891 | darkx: i mean with grub.cfg and menu.lst depending wath version you have installed of grub, grub or grub2 |
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| 18:45.12 | DarkX | i dont know i cant find it |
| 18:45.16 | DarkX | the cfg |
| 18:45.18 | maximi891 | metz: wich means maybe how you say the module are badly... |
| 18:45.25 | maximi891 | darkx: for get it |
| 18:45.27 | maximi891 | :) |
| 18:45.56 | maximi891 | darkx: with a lot of traffic that card hang? |
| 18:46.27 | DarkX | dont know deped |
| 18:46.33 | DarkX | 140 mb or 1.4 gb, |
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| 18:46.42 | DarkX | ethtool -K eth0 tso off <--- this execute? |
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| 18:46.49 | mETz | DarkX: read the blog link I just posted |
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| 18:47.27 | mETz | DarkX: basically on high system-load the stupid driver starts missing interrupts, that is causing massive data loss |
| 18:47.28 | maximi891 | metz: where are you from? |
| 18:47.54 | mETz | maximi891: .de |
| 18:48.04 | DarkX | mETz ethtool -K eth0 tso off is the answer or? |
| 18:48.14 | maximi891 | metz: germany? |
| 18:48.18 | mETz | DarkX: btw, I think there's #debian.de as well but I remember german debian channels to be pretty unfriendly to newbies ;) |
| 18:48.39 | mETz | DarkX: don't know what that does |
| 18:48.45 | mETz | maximi891: yes |
| 18:48.47 | maximi891 | the same problem i have in debian-es all people dont help |
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| 18:49.00 | maximi891 | the unique great channel is this |
| 18:49.34 | DarkX | i am trying ethtool -K eth0 tso off |
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| 18:50.02 | DarkX | Cannot set device tcp segmentation offload settings: Operation not supported |
| 18:50.08 | DarkX | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.18 | maximi891 | metz: what about nvnet? |
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| 18:50.32 | DarkX | @ metz not work |
| 18:50.35 | mETz | don't know that one |
| 18:51.04 | mETz | DarkX: I never told you to play with ethtool :P |
| 18:51.16 | mETz | read what I wrote, now what you _think_ I wrote |
| 18:52.06 | Mallxs | maximi891: shutdown method = platform |
| 18:52.16 | _Maru_ | how come i don't have an unmount command? |
| 18:52.29 | Kvant | try umount |
| 18:52.40 | _Maru_ | ahh sweet ty |
| 18:52.44 | DarkX | Ausschlaggebend war der Boot-Parameter pci=nomsi und die massive Anhebung des Modul-Parameters max_interrupt_work auf 120. |
| 18:52.44 | maximi891 | mallxs: where say that? |
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| 18:52.54 | Mallxs | well i did a install |
| 18:52.55 | maximi891 | mallxs: you installed the uswsusp? |
| 18:52.56 | DarkX | how can i edit the boot parameters |
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| 18:53.34 | Mallxs | maximi891: i'm on a Linux debian 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP |
| 18:54.26 | Mallxs | i just found my sound was broken in that machine and did care for a reinstall |
| 18:54.27 | maximi891 | mallxs: so you installed the package uswsusp? |
| 18:54.33 | Mallxs | yep |
| 18:54.47 | DarkX | how cani editmthe boot arameters? |
| 18:54.58 | maximi891 | mallxs: now change /etc/uswsusp.conf from platform to shutdown |
| 18:55.15 | maximi891 | darkx: you edit the parameter on bot |
| 18:55.16 | maximi891 | boot |
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| 18:55.26 | anoHito | the basic install ,the minimal install of etch will install ssh by default ? |
| 18:55.32 | maximi891 | when you start the computer tha grub start, the system selector |
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| 18:55.52 | maximi891 | anohito: a client i think... |
| 18:56.19 | Mallxs | maximi891: do you know that have to run upstairs to my working room for a reboot ;-) |
| 18:56.57 | DarkX | maximi891 and then the parameters will be saved |
| 18:56.57 | maximi891 | lol |
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| 18:57.23 | Mallxs | ok i did the change ... how do i test it ? |
| 18:57.31 | maximi891 | darkx: no, only from the boot, when you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, then that will be saved |
| 18:57.33 | anoHito | maximi891, what do you mean ? |
| 18:58.17 | maximi891 | anohito: i don't remember, but i think the ssh client would be installed, if you want a server you need to install openssh |
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| 18:58.51 | anoHito | i mean i need to connect to server via ssh,the server needs to install apt-get install openssh ? |
| 18:58.52 | maximi891 | anohito: try this, openssh-client and openssh_server |
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| 18:59.20 | Mallxs | anoHito: that is openssh-server |
| 18:59.34 | anoHito | okay,thanks. |
| 18:59.34 | maximi891 | openhito: ssh install that |
| 18:59.57 | anoHito | hey ,i am teaching the datacentre to install etch while we are chatting here :D |
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| 19:00.04 | anoHito | step by step . |
| 19:00.07 | anoHito | lol |
| 19:00.10 | _Pix | hi |
| 19:00.34 | maximi891 | ahaha |
| 19:00.35 | maligor | datacentre ran out of money? |
| 19:00.40 | maximi891 | apt-get install ssh |
| 19:00.52 | Mallxs | maximi891: now you ... pls advice a cli to test uswsusp |
| 19:00.55 | anoHito | that guy told me , this is my first time to install debian ...:( |
| 19:01.05 | DarkX | where can i setup max_interrupt_work |
| 19:01.10 | anoHito | they are familiar with redhat install. |
| 19:01.20 | maximi891 | mallxs: sorry, some words i dont understand |
| 19:01.37 | maximi891 | mallxs: now you have edited the uswsusp.conf i think |
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| 19:01.49 | maximi891 | darkx: install mii-diag |
| 19:01.55 | Mallxs | pls = please cli = command line instructionm |
| 19:02.08 | Mallxs | yep did the edit |
| 19:02.14 | maximi891 | yeah |
| 19:02.33 | maximi891 | now it's shutdown true? |
| 19:02.45 | Mallxs | yep |
| 19:02.45 | maximi891 | so, what are you waiting for? sudo hibernate |
| 19:02.59 | DarkX | mii-diag::::: Using the default interface 'eth0'. |
| 19:02.59 | DarkX | SIOCGMIIPHY on eth0 failed: Operation not supported |
| 19:03.00 | Mallxs | i'm rootmalready |
| 19:03.09 | maximi891 | ok :P |
| 19:03.15 | DarkX | Would it just be OK to edit /etc/modules.conf to change: |
| 19:03.22 | DarkX | but modules.conf is blan |
| 19:03.28 | DarkX | http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2006/08/msg00274.html |
| 19:04.06 | maximi891 | darkx: when you press the button on TAB twice, that complete with the possible files exist: |
| 19:04.10 | maximi891 | maximi89@Maximiliano:~$ cat /etc/mod |
| 19:04.10 | maximi891 | modprobe.d/ modules modutils/ |
| 19:04.16 | maximi891 | you understand? |
| 19:04.26 | Mallxs | maximi891: /usr/bin/ksh: hibernate: not found :-( |
| 19:04.32 | maximi891 | lol |
| 19:04.33 | maximi891 | s2disk |
| 19:04.37 | DarkX | but i must edit /etc/modules.conf |
| 19:04.46 | maximi891 | darkx: why? |
| 19:05.04 | DarkX | forcedeth to forcedeth max_interrupt_work=10 |
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| 19:05.15 | DarkX | http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2006/08/msg00274.html |
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| 19:06.26 | Mallxs | apt-cache says; hibernate - smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk) |
| 19:07.06 | maximi891 | yes |
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| 19:07.40 | Mallxs | debian:root # hibernate |
| 19:07.42 | Mallxs | hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found. |
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| 19:08.02 | maximi891 | tuxonice, hibernate, acpi, uswsusp |
| 19:08.12 | maximi891 | mallxs: you have installed that? |
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| 19:08.53 | prassyy | hello, i need advice must i try debian for linux as i'm totally a windows user... thank you |
| 19:09.10 | enouf | liable: if you install the systemsettings pkg; fire it up from an xterm as standard user, then enter root passwd when prompted - there's many config options; under "Look and Feel" is Notifications > Applications tab (note all the other shit even in the dropdown menu) and .. i had to toggle each one off - ugh -- and the ability to disable the sound server too |
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| 19:09.40 | Mallxs | maximi891: if only the WOl was working ...i didn't have to walk upstairs now :-(( |
| 19:10.55 | maximi891 | mallxs: ¬¬ upstairs ahahah |
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| 19:12.25 | Mallxs | Yes: upstairs ... lo, it did a total shutdown |
| 19:12.35 | enouf | Darkshit remove /etc/modules.conf and use /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 19:12.39 | enouf | parm: max_interrupt_work:forcedeth maximum events handled per interrupt (int) |
| 19:12.45 | maximi891 | mallxs: so works? |
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| 19:13.15 | Mallxs | well i don't call that a suspend |
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| 19:13.45 | enouf | s2disk |
| 19:13.45 | maximi891 | you suspend or hibernate? |
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| 19:14.29 | anoHito | if i have changed ip on eth0, how to accept the changes without a reboot ? |
| 19:14.37 | Mallxs | I did a hibernate the result was a shutdown |
| 19:14.50 | Mallxs | what was the name of the tox.. file |
| 19:14.56 | dvs | anoHito: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 19:14.58 | Mallxs | or pkg |
| 19:15.02 | enouf | anoHito: try /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 19:15.11 | anoHito | which one ? |
| 19:15.13 | dvs | enouf: that too. ;-) |
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| 19:15.20 | anoHito | dvs's vs enouf's |
| 19:15.26 | wicket | either |
| 19:15.31 | anoHito | oh,both. Thanks. |
| 19:15.33 | enouf | both |
| 19:15.39 | anoHito | :) |
| 19:15.47 | anoHito | datacente finished installation haha. |
| 19:16.02 | anoHito | debian is cool |
| 19:16.09 | anoHito | very easy to install :) |
| 19:16.13 | maximi891 | mallxs: but hibernate create an image of the running system and put on disk, after shutdown the computer, that works nicely, you want to suspend now... |
| 19:16.14 | dvs | anoHito: no... it's hot! |
| 19:16.21 | anoHito | both |
| 19:16.27 | maximi891 | mallxs: turn on the ocmputer, and try with suspend mode |
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| 19:17.28 | prassyy | anoHito: did you use lvm by any chance? |
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| 19:17.45 | Mallxs | maximi891: what suspend mode ... do i have to edit the file again or is it suspend on the cli |
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| 19:18.20 | anoHito | lvm ? no |
| 19:18.30 | maximi891 | yes |
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| 19:18.48 | Mallxs | btw looks like did not install Tuxonice it does not show up in dpkg -l |
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| 19:19.01 | prassyy | anoHito: I was about to install my first debian and was reading about lvm , thanks anyways :) |
| 19:19.08 | Mallxs | yes what ? |
| 19:19.20 | maximi891 | wait a sec ple |
| 19:19.22 | anoHito | prassyy, install debian etch is very easy,it is a joy. really. |
| 19:19.38 | anoHito | prassyy, google for debian install graphic photo |
| 19:19.58 | anoHito | with photo attached from the debian installer, so easy. |
| 19:20.05 | prassyy | anoHito: I was thinking about the new baby lenny -- but i do not know how to install the wifi driver |
| 19:20.09 | maximi891 | mallxs: s2ram |
| 19:20.16 | anoHito | okay. |
| 19:20.18 | maximi891 | that it's suspend |
| 19:20.20 | enouf | !installer firmware |
| 19:20.21 | dpkg | The Lenny installer is able to load extra (non-free) <firmware> either by adding it to the installation media or from a USB stick. See http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch06s04.html , http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to.html and http://people.debian.org/~dannf/add-firmware-to/add-firmware-to |
| 19:20.30 | enouf | prassyy: ^^^^^^^^ |
| 19:20.32 | dvs | anoHito: why etch? |
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| 19:21.20 | maximi891 | mallxs: i back few minuts, lunch |
| 19:21.28 | Mallxs | Machine is unknown. |
| 19:21.34 | maximi891 | and? |
| 19:21.46 | maximi891 | ok |
| 19:21.49 | maximi891 | i see |
| 19:21.49 | prassyy | enouf: thanks :) i'm just looking at them -- but if may i ask -- please pardon me -- i have a wifi connection and how can i add a driver for my intel 802.11b card |
| 19:21.59 | anoHito | dvs, i use a cpanel similiar thing,by far lenny is not completely supported that is why. |
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| 19:22.09 | Mallxs | have lunch first i will put it in pastebin |
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| 19:24.09 | hoohah | hello |
| 19:24.34 | Mallxs | maximi891: http://pastebin.com/m70b71d72 |
| 19:24.36 | mstevens | Hi. I just upgraded to 5.0 and now I get GnuTLS errors in exim. I found a couple of bugs with google but nothing that helped. |
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| 19:24.49 | mstevens | Clients connecting with SSL get a handshake error |
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| 19:25.13 | hoohah | how do i do a query for all packages available from testing and sid (that are installed) that share the exact same version? |
| 19:25.14 | mstevens | I just tried connecting with gnutls-cli and it seems fine |
| 19:25.20 | eptalon | heyas, since a few weeks my sound card is deregulated (in sid, much too loud) |
| 19:25.23 | hoohah | i'm tracking both testing/sid in my sources.list |
| 19:25.33 | matzefuh | Hello all, do anyone knows a good manual for installing postfix mta with courier pop, imap, clamav and amavisd? |
| 19:25.49 | eptalon | matzefuh: googleà |
| 19:25.51 | enouf | prassyy: i don't do wifi, however a relevant link from here should help - you'll want to figure out which chip and the pciid - http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2009/02/msg00006.html |
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| 19:26.43 | prassyy | enouf: thank you a lot -- i do know my chip -- i just wish to learn lvm and then install lenny on it -- :) |
| 19:26.55 | Mallxs | mstevens: when i did the upgrade and read the change list i so a lot of problems with the upgrade and did a fresh install ...you should have a lot of messages while upgrading |
| 19:27.12 | mstevens | Mallxs: I think I've got most things working, just exim4 is a problem |
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| 19:29.31 | maximi891 | mallxs: i back, with the lunch aahaha |
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| 19:30.16 | Mallxs | matzefuh: http://koivi.com/exim4-config/ |
| 19:30.26 | simonrvn | wonders what's so funny about that |
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| 19:30.33 | Mallxs | maximi891: your eating to fast |
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| 19:30.58 | Mallxs | maximi891: http://pastebin.com/m70b71d72 |
| 19:31.37 | revertTS | anyone know why port 7070 would be listed as closed by nmap when my iptables script drops it? |
| 19:31.59 | maximi891 | i'm eating right now XD |
| 19:33.00 | Mallxs | revertTS: with drop iptables just drops the ip package and does not send anyting back |
| 19:33.21 | simonrvn | packet |
| 19:33.29 | Mallxs | yup |
| 19:34.16 | revertTS | Mallxs: yes, that's why I'm not sure why it's showing up as closed; the services I have running show open, everything else is filtered and not shown...but for some reason port 7070 is listed as closed |
| 19:34.37 | revertTS | and I've had this happen on another Debian box, but I don't remember what package caused it |
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| 19:35.25 | Mallxs | revertTS: what does netstat -an tell's you ? |
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| 19:37.40 | anoHito | it is sources.list or sources.1st ? |
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| 19:37.56 | revertTS | Mallxs: there wasn't anything listed for the port when I check earlier |
| 19:38.41 | brainbox | hey, i installed debian from scratch, having probs getting wireless to work anyone wana give me some pointers Im using Atheros chipset AR242x pci |
| 19:39.24 | brainbox | i do a ifconfig wlan0 up it shows the adaptor |
| 19:39.43 | brainbox | i also installed several wifi managers... they cant see any avaible networks |
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| 19:40.22 | Mallxs | revertTS: is this trough yourISp or something else : |
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| 19:40.42 | hetOrakel | hi, my printer papersize is wrong. it should be A4, but always all printed sheets are US letter. i don't know where to change this setting |
| 19:41.41 | revertTS | Mallxs: it's a server on a private network; I built it up from a base install, pretty much the only things running on it are rsyncd, apache, and postfix doing local mail |
| 19:41.46 | abrotman | hetOrakel: /etc/papersize |
| 19:41.47 | Mallxs | maximi891: are you working on sunday ? |
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| 19:42.39 | hetOrakel | Jezus, that simple! |
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| 19:44.22 | abrotman | hetOrakel: i could give you a more difficult answer if you prefer ? |
| 19:44.33 | hetOrakel | :) |
| 19:44.45 | Mallxs | revertTS: whats the nmap command you used ? |
| 19:44.56 | H2S04 | abrotman, if an answer is different it is different. "more different" is redundant! |
| 19:45.12 | abrotman | difficult? not different? |
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| 19:45.47 | H2S04 | abrotman, DOH. |
| 19:45.51 | Mallxs | likes abrotman's answers |
| 19:46.09 | H2S04 | I like abrotman because he's made of bread. |
| 19:46.32 | revertTS | Mallxs: nmap -T4 -A -v -PE |
| 19:46.34 | abrotman | i'm sourdough! |
| 19:47.01 | H2S04 | nom nom nom |
| 19:47.04 | hetOrakel | abrotman: should i restart something after changing that? |
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| 19:47.53 | abrotman | hetOrakel: i'd think you would probably have to log out or at least restart whatever printing app it is |
| 19:48.23 | zrin | what is wrong with "tcpdump -n -vv -s 128 -i br0 ether proto arp" ... it gives me syntax error, I just don't see it!? |
| 19:48.30 | maximi89 | sorry i was with a little problem |
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| 19:48.36 | maximi89 | mallxs: i back XD |
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| 19:48.50 | maximi89 | pm-suspend don't works correctly |
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| 19:50.24 | zrin | what is wrong with "tcpdump -n -vv -s 128 -i br0 ether proto arp" ... solved: \\arp -- need backslash |
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| 19:51.20 | HardDisk_WP | hey |
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| 19:51.52 | hetOrakel | abrotman: it was/is firefox (for this test), i guessed that i had to restart that-one, and did indeed, but it still prints in letter. i also restarted cups daemon |
| 19:52.00 | Mallxs | maximi89: did you see thepastebin ? |
| 19:52.06 | HardDisk_WP | how do I tell wget "download file ONLY if the size of the file on the disk != the length reported by server" ? |
| 19:52.16 | abrotman | hetOrakel: iceweasel or firefox ? |
| 19:52.24 | maximi89 | no |
| 19:52.27 | hetOrakel | ff |
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| 19:52.30 | Mallxs | revertTS: i did a test .. set drop on port 7070 and also get a 7070/tcp filtered realserver |
| 19:52.45 | abrotman | hetOrakel: debian doesn't ahve firefox .. and it may not use whatever debian has setup for printing |
| 19:52.52 | mavhc | HardDisk_WP: there's -c for continue, ie resume |
| 19:53.00 | H2S04 | abrotman, debian has firefox :P |
| 19:53.01 | maximi89 | mallxS: no, i try the pm-suspend, but don't works, when suspend, you move mouse or press the keyboard and nothing happens, in my case almost |
| 19:53.11 | HardDisk_WP | mavhc, yes, but if I run it on a file already downloaded 100%, it redownloads |
| 19:53.18 | abrotman | H2S04: only in etch i think |
| 19:53.21 | abrotman | judd: versions firefox |
| 19:53.21 | judd | abrotman: firefox -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 |
| 19:53.29 | mavhc | HardDisk_WP: try -nc too |
| 19:53.32 | H2S04 | abrotman, iceweasel == firefox with new logo |
| 19:53.35 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 19:53.42 | abrotman | H2S04: and even that's a transitional package |
| 19:53.49 | abrotman | H2S04: i'm aware of what iceweasel is .. |
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| 19:54.02 | hetOrakel | i dl-ed and installed firefox myself |
| 19:54.11 | abrotman | why? |
| 19:54.27 | Mallxs | maximi89: when i had a well working system (before i started with you) i had to press the power button to get out of suspend |
| 19:54.35 | hetOrakel | huh? because i wanted the latest version? |
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| 19:55.28 | revertTS | Mallxs: thanks for checking; I wonder what causes it... |
| 19:55.32 | abrotman | hetOrakel: you should ask #firefox on irc.mozilla.org .. but "about:config" and then search for paper .. change the paper size |
| 19:55.36 | abrotman | just a guess |
| 19:55.40 | ^^alien | hi, could someone point me in right direction to fix "May 17 23:15:20 localhost avahi-daemon[23504]: iface.c:interface_mdns_mcast_join() called but no local address available."@syslog in etch its connected with openvpn not functionating properly |
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| 19:56.11 | maximi89 | mallxs: the suspend works before make any changes with me?, but what don't works now? suspend only? |
| 19:56.21 | abrotman | not funny |
| 19:56.33 | abrautman | Oh don't be such a stick in the mud brother. |
| 19:56.49 | HardDisk_WP | mavhc, mmh... -nc dosnt care about the file size :/ |
| 19:56.58 | maximi89 | mallxs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516848 |
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| 19:58.02 | mavhc | HardDisk_WP: it might depend on the server whether -c works |
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| 19:59.51 | Mallxs | maximi89: actually i don't care ... i never use hibernate or suspend ... my systems are always on ... i did try to get WOL working;it did for one day and was the broken ..and i geve up |
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| 20:01.04 | maximi89 | mallxs: i try that some time but never i can have that works |
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| 20:02.10 | Mallxs | I have a backup server with 2x tape drives ... now i have to wake it up with a clockswitch and have it shutdown it self |
| 20:02.30 | hetOrakel | abrotman: thx! you (and i a little bit) fixed it |
| 20:02.40 | HardDisk_WP | mavhc, -c itself works with rapidshare |
| 20:02.59 | HardDisk_WP | and -nc together works lso with -c |
| 20:03.32 | Mallxs | revertTS: is there something in your iptables -L -n for port 7070 ? |
| 20:03.36 | HardDisk_WP | so the only thing missing is have wget to check the size of the file and the remote file if they equal. if yes, exit, if not, download using the Range header |
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| 20:04.43 | revertTS | Mallxs: not explicitly; it's dropped by the chain policy |
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| 20:06.09 | anoHito | i ran /etc/init.d/networking restart it says Reconfiguring network interfaces... |
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| 20:06.14 | anoHito | then i lost ssh |
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| 20:07.30 | maximi89 | anohito, that maybe fails |
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| 20:07.41 | anoHito | strange |
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| 20:12.06 | Mallxs | maximi89: are you workingon sunday ? |
| 20:14.21 | maximi89 | mallxs: no, i'm on my house |
| 20:14.24 | maximi89 | ahaha |
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| 20:22.46 | bAndie9100 | hi all |
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| 20:23.38 | anoHito | i run apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-get update |
| 20:23.47 | anoHito | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded. |
| 20:23.56 | anoHito | 8 not upgraded ? how do check ? |
| 20:24.46 | Mallxs | anoHito: how aboute a apt-get upgrade ? |
| 20:25.14 | anoHito | i am running apt-get dist-upgrade okay ? |
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| 20:25.30 | anoHito | it is a fresh installed etch r8 |
| 20:25.36 | anoHito | minimal insall |
| 20:25.44 | Polarina | Why do people use etch? It's old... |
| 20:25.52 | wicket | I usually open aptitude and i can see a list of packages it wants to upgrade. I like to browse. |
| 20:26.07 | Mallxs | then it will work; i hope you are on a speedy line |
| 20:26.31 | anoHito | Mallxs, for me ? |
| 20:26.40 | Mallxs | yep |
| 20:26.52 | anoHito | what that mean on a speedy line ? |
| 20:27.09 | Mallxs | anoHito: braodband ? |
| 20:27.22 | anoHito | oh i got it. |
| 20:27.24 | anoHito | yes. |
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| 20:27.45 | Mallxs | anoHito: I think you will get a kernel update] |
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| 20:27.57 | anoHito | true,its downloading. |
| 20:28.05 | anoHito | :) |
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| 20:33.09 | WWT | hi |
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| 20:33.39 | anoHito | how do i check what filesystem is current in use ? |
| 20:33.41 | WWT | why does fetchmail want to talk ipv6 with exim4? how to change this into ipv4? |
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| 20:33.45 | anoHito | currently |
| 20:34.03 | Polarina | WWT: Why would you want IPv4? |
| 20:34.22 | WWT | Polarina: if its easier to configure ipv6 then tell me how ;) |
| 20:34.38 | Polarina | WWT: You just configure it just like IPv4... |
| 20:34.40 | WWT | in my mail.err it says: fetchmail[6490]: Verbindung zu localhost:smtp [::1/25] fehlgeschlagen: Connection refused. |
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| 20:35.08 | WWT | but the mail is being delivered |
| 20:35.13 | Polarina | WWT: Turn on english localisation. Don't expect me to understand that. |
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| 20:35.40 | WWT | in my mail.err it says: fetchmail[6490]: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused. |
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| 20:35.53 | WWT | mta is exim4 |
| 20:36.11 | Polarina | WWT: Is the smtp server listening for connections? |
| 20:36.19 | earthian | What is the best solution for firewall/nat/router in a local network + web/mail/dns/etc server with lenny? I am thinking about shorewall, but i did not use it before. Is it any good? At the moment I am using ipmasq :) |
| 20:36.58 | WWT | exim4 2974 Debian-exim 3u IPv4 6381 TCP localhost:smtp (LISTEN) |
| 20:37.01 | WWT | Polarina: yes |
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| 20:37.55 | earthian | ups xchat messed up ;) |
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| 20:51.55 | earthian | Hi, what could be wrong when I am getting these kinds of message in my syslog? http://pastebin.com/m4a8b2e3f |
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| 20:56.34 | joltcan | earthian: bind cannot resolve some IP's, and it looks like its an IPv6 problem |
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| 20:57.16 | robin_sz | thought bind resolved names, not ips |
| 20:57.16 | lolufail1 | hi there. |
| 20:57.31 | lolufail1 | can I logrotate lighttpd without restarting ist? |
| 20:57.33 | lolufail1 | it? |
| 20:57.42 | joltcan | earthian: or that you are using ns1.uaenic.ae as a resolver in /etc/resolv.conf, and that one is not longer working |
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| 20:57.52 | lolufail1 | because this robs me of 20 seconds of "coverage" |
| 20:57.56 | lolufail1 | 2009-05-17 22:17:07: (server.c.1361) [note] graceful shutdown started |
| 20:57.56 | lolufail1 | 2009-05-17 22:17:37: (log.c.75) server started |
| 20:58.10 | joltcan | lolufail1: try reload? |
| 20:58.22 | abrotman | sighup it might work |
| 20:58.24 | konr | I start x, and neither keyboard nor mouse works. How do I configure X, this day and age? |
| 20:58.39 | lolufail1 | joltcan: it's already on /etc/init.d/lighttpd reload |
| 20:58.42 | abrotman | konr: which version of debian ? |
| 20:58.44 | joltcan | lolufail1: or use some other type of logging, like piping to some logtool |
| 20:59.11 | lolufail1 | what is the reason behind reload? |
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| 20:59.18 | lolufail1 | wont it recognize a new logfile? |
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| 20:59.30 | lolufail1 | abrotman: what does sighup do? |
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| 21:00.38 | earthian | joltcan, i am using my own host in the resolv.conf also same is for all PC in the local net |
| 21:01.01 | earthian | also all these address resolve if i use "host example.com" |
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| 21:01.46 | earthian | so I do not understand where i am getting this from... is it possible that it is related to misconfiguration in the secondary names servers?? |
| 21:01.53 | joltcan | earthian: looks like an IPv6 error to me, since all lines end with "2001:dc3::35#53" |
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| 21:02.11 | earthian | joltcan, how would i fix it yet? |
| 21:02.21 | earthian | nvm.. i am gonna google first. |
| 21:02.25 | joltcan | earthian: which is a IPv6 address with destination port 53 (which is default for DNS) |
| 21:02.49 | joltcan | earthian: Well, either disable IPv6, or find out if there is a problem with the IPv6 connection if that is what you use |
| 21:03.06 | earthian | afaik i use ipv4 |
| 21:03.06 | joltcan | earthian: But my brain is kind of fried today, so I might overlook something |
| 21:03.31 | OpenTokix | fried |
| 21:03.45 | Polarina | joltcan: You'd better turn off the stove... |
| 21:03.47 | joltcan | earthian: Then you might just ignore those lines if everything seems alright |
| 21:03.53 | joltcan | Polarina: GOod point |
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| 21:04.14 | earthian | joltcan, with several PC on the local net i get it on my syslog like a spam :/ |
| 21:04.35 | g3brown | I could use some help with a simple bash script. The following script runs a global bashrc (http://pastebin.com/dbcb42eb). The global one has a line "mesg y" that I don't want to run. |
| 21:05.23 | abrotman | g3brown: did you ask #bash ? |
| 21:05.36 | g3brown | abrotman: nope, that good idea though :) |
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| 21:13.35 | Tagor | I just installed Debian with a software RAID 1 on a new server. But when syncing one of the partitions the system just shuts down at the end |
| 21:13.59 | Tagor | ./var/log/messages doesn't come up with any errors |
| 21:14.40 | Tagor | When it has synced about 98% of the partition (/home) it just shuts down |
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| 21:16.04 | claint | what about /var/log/syslog? anything there? |
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| 21:17.09 | Tagor | Thanks, will have a look there, currently don't have access to the server so I will try later :) |
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| 21:20.11 | lolufail1 | Tagor: if you didnt make a serious mistake while installing (guess not), the second harddrive is probably faulty, and maybe the controller finds out, tells the bios "oops" and the bios has the setting "halt on all errors" and simply halts. |
| 21:20.13 | lolufail1 | just a guess. |
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| 21:21.17 | claint | i have a problem with my sata controller as well. thinking about putting a mail in the linux-ide list. |
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| 21:21.32 | brainbox | how do i blacklist a module |
| 21:21.33 | brainbox | ? |
| 21:23.03 | abrotman | !tell brainbox about blacklist |
| 21:23.06 | abrotman | !tell brainbox about blacklist-initramfs |
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| 21:26.44 | prassyy | where is the system configuration file saved |
| 21:27.27 | abrotman | for what? |
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| 21:28.38 | maximi891 | people, uswsusp and tuxonice are independet right? |
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| 21:29.25 | maximi891 | i mean if i remove tuxonice i can hibernate and suspend with uswsusp, or if i remove uswsusp i can hibernate with tuxonice, or pm-utils... |
| 21:30.02 | maximi891 | who knows? |
| 21:30.59 | abrotman | !tias |
| 21:30.59 | dpkg | well, tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first. |
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| 21:32.19 | maximi891 | !uswsusp |
| 21:32.23 | maximi891 | lol |
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| 21:35.08 | twinkie_addict | aha found the right java moduals for jedit :) |
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| 21:37.50 | brainbox | ahey anyone know how to list avalible wireless networks from console ? |
| 21:38.01 | claint | iwlist scan |
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| 21:38.46 | claint | iwlist ethX scan, would be more correct I guess |
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| 21:43.57 | maximi89 | mallxs: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=52893 |
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| 21:46.28 | Mallxs | maximi891: you got it running now ? |
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| 21:47.13 | ech0s7 | hi |
| 21:47.20 | ech0s7 | how can i modify deb package ? |
| 21:47.33 | ech0s7 | some name of files in a deb package |
| 21:48.47 | claint | why do you want rename file in a deb package? |
| 21:48.55 | claint | *files |
| 21:49.01 | ech0s7 | claint: because i have need of to do that |
| 21:49.51 | claint | best practice would be to get the sources and make your own package with modification, setting your package conflicting with the regular package. |
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| 21:50.23 | ech0s7 | claint: i have only deb package |
| 21:50.24 | claint | worst practice might be just go rename it. |
| 21:51.07 | claint | if the old files don't bother you, maybe make symbolic links? |
| 21:51.27 | claint | i don't see what you are trying to accomplish |
| 21:52.13 | ech0s7 | claint: in deb package i have a directory named pippo, i would change it to pluto |
| 21:52.44 | claint | .... because? |
| 21:53.22 | ech0s7 | because i have need! |
| 21:53.44 | Pryon | crytpic responses often lead to assumptions of bonheadedness |
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| 21:54.30 | brainbox | whats a good wifi manager ? |
| 21:54.46 | ech0s7 | crytpic responses, because i haven't understood why would you know why i have need to do that |
| 21:54.52 | ech0s7 | Pryon |
| 21:55.22 | themill | ech0s7: usually when people ask really really odd questions it's because they're trying to do something that's either (a) stupid or (b) not worth doing. |
| 21:55.48 | themill | ech0s7: Quite often, we can save you a lot of work if you tell us *why* and not just *what* |
| 21:56.07 | ech0s7 | themill: instead of speak about other question... and losing your and my time |
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| 21:56.20 | ech0s7 | why you don't reply to the first my question ? |
| 21:56.27 | ech0s7 | if you know how |
| 21:56.30 | \amethyst | ech0s7: you could try to unpack the .deb file and the data.tar.gz, rename the directory in the unpacked version, and repack it |
| 21:56.35 | themill | ech0s7: /msg dpkg nmg |
| 21:56.50 | \amethyst | ech0s7: better would be to rebuild the package, since it probably has programs that reference the directory by name |
| 21:57.07 | ech0s7 | \amethyst: ok |
| 21:57.22 | ech0s7 | but what tool i have to use to repack in deb format ? |
| 21:57.39 | themill | ech0s7: man 5 deb ; man 1 dpkg-deb |
| 21:58.20 | ech0s7 | i'm not on debian at the moment, i'm at work |
| 21:58.56 | themill | giyf then |
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| 22:00.44 | claint | so what does pippo mean in italian? |
| 22:00.54 | abrotman | claint: this is #debian .. not #italian |
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| 22:01.12 | claint | i am still trying to figure out what he is trying to do. |
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| 22:06.25 | hacktolive | can I format a USB flash drive as UDF (Universal Disk Format)? |
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| 22:12.13 | claint | did you look at udftools package? |
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| 22:13.57 | zepho | any ideas why programs like festival and mp3blaster are not able to access sound in lenny and testing? (kde, but iirc it's in gnome too) |
| 22:14.21 | zepho | festival says it can't access /dev/dsp, which i just for testing changed to a+rw |
| 22:14.29 | copper_ | does gcc install to /usr/sbin? |
| 22:14.32 | copper_ | i cant find it |
| 22:14.46 | zepho | mine is at /usr/bin/ |
| 22:15.01 | claint | which gcc |
| 22:15.04 | zepho | copper_: you're sure you have it installed? it doesn't come by default |
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| 22:16.29 | copper_ | yes it is installed |
| 22:16.41 | copper_ | when i try to apt-get it it says its the latest version |
| 22:16.54 | claint | did you type: which gcc |
| 22:17.05 | copper_ | i just apt-get install gcc |
| 22:17.15 | copper_ | didnt specify a version |
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| 22:17.24 | copper_ | i assumed it would default to the most recent |
| 22:17.33 | claint | man which |
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| 22:18.12 | themill | copper_: installing the gcc package should be enough. You might like to install "build-essential" though. |
| 22:18.38 | copper_ | why dont i see gcc in /usr/sbin though? |
| 22:19.13 | claint | cause it is in /usr/bin? |
| 22:19.59 | copper_ | it is in /usr/bin |
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| 22:20.00 | copper_ | dur |
| 22:20.02 | copper_ | thanks |
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| 22:21.23 | valdyn | hacktolive: udf being a reasonly fs that would be useless |
| 22:21.29 | valdyn | hacktolive: udf being a readonly fs that would be useless |
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| 22:21.52 | hacktolive | claint: never tried it, just wondering... |
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| 22:22.15 | valdyn | !udf |
| 22:22.15 | dpkg | methinks udf is at http://www.trylinux.com/projects/udf/index.html, or with tools at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/udf/tools/?cvsroot=linux-udf, or apt-get install udftools. Universal Disk Format, tools for UDF filesystems and DVD/CD-R(W) drives, which is primarily used for DVDs, but sometimes also CD-ROMs, or see also <udf packet writing> |
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| 22:22.30 | IamSOG | is trying to find Lenny's package installer |
| 22:22.39 | claint | i don't think udf is readonly, but i dont see why you would format a usb as udf. |
| 22:22.45 | ericrw | IamSOG: "apt-get" :) |
| 22:22.52 | ericrw | (or aptitude..) |
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| 22:22.59 | valdyn | guess it does support packet writing |
| 22:23.11 | valdyn | not like that makes it useful for rw media |
| 22:23.15 | IamSOG | so, it doesn't come with one? :o um... thanks ericrw |
| 22:23.24 | claint | valdyn: yeah. |
| 22:23.38 | claint | IamSOG: no it comes with one. |
| 22:23.52 | claint | IamSOG: he just told you. |
| 22:23.53 | IamSOG | claint I can't find it... um.. where is it? |
| 22:24.02 | IamSOG | Oh apt-get |
| 22:24.02 | hacktolive | valdyn, claint: I know, but if that worked, it was probably the best way to share data with Win/Mac/Lin users (FAT is not an option due to 4 GB limit) |
| 22:24.28 | IamSOG | Strange, Can't remebmer if I remember if I downloaded the GUI package get on Etch then |
| 22:24.55 | UncleBob | hacktolive: You need to share single files bigger than 4 GB? |
| 22:24.57 | claint | IamSOG: synaptic is the gui version |
| 22:24.58 | themill | IamSOG: you are perhaps wanting to "aptitude install synaptic" |
| 22:25.11 | IamSOG | thanks themill and claint |
| 22:25.29 | IamSOG | But so far I like Etch more :D |
| 22:25.49 | hacktolive | UncleBob: not me, but someone I know needs, and asked me that UDF thing |
| 22:25.49 | Sebboh- | what's the single filesize limit on ntfs? |
| 22:26.11 | hacktolive | Sebboh-: not sure, but it is a lot... |
| 22:26.19 | Sebboh- | anyway, who said UDF can support very large files? :P |
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| 22:26.31 | UncleBob | Sebboh- Bigger than 50GB, anyway. |
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| 22:26.43 | IamSOG | The largest one file on NTFS I have is about ... oh, smaller than 50G |
| 22:27.13 | Polarina | IamSOG: That's small. |
| 22:27.24 | Polarina | Sebboh-: Wikipedia said so. |
| 22:27.30 | IamSOG | Polarina I put logs in weeks :D |
| 22:27.37 | Sebboh- | Anyway, I haven't had any trouble writing to NTFS thumbsticks with linux in ..years. ntfs-3g? |
| 22:28.03 | hacktolive | my problem is that there is no "open" universal filesystem... |
| 22:28.24 | Polarina | hacktolive: How unfortunate. :( |
| 22:28.27 | Sebboh- | hacktolive, rephrase that? You want one that works on windows. :) |
| 22:28.47 | hacktolive | Sebboh-: ntfs-3g is good, but corrupted my data once... |
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| 22:29.36 | hacktolive | Sebboh: true: I would like a format that worked properly on Mac/Win/Lin... guess it does not exist yet... |
| 22:29.55 | Polarina | hacktolive: FAT32 is the only one.. |
| 22:32.06 | hacktolive | Polarina: I know, but FAT just is not suitable for big files... guess NTFS is the most "universal FS" today :( thanks guys... |
| 22:32.22 | claint | blasphemy |
| 22:32.24 | claint | ;p |
| 22:32.27 | Polarina | hacktolive: NTFS is not! |
| 22:32.36 | zepho | is it normal that root is not in group root? |
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| 22:32.46 | IamSOG | think Fat 16's mix file size is like 2G only ? |
| 22:32.57 | Polarina | IamSOG: Not 64k? |
| 22:33.04 | IamSOG | :o |
| 22:33.17 | IamSOG | 64k is like 1.44 Floppy time :D ? |
| 22:33.23 | UncleBob | Polarina: I installed Windows 2000 on a FAT16 partition, so no. =P |
| 22:33.24 | zepho | (still searching for a workable solution of a partition that is accessible for win/linux, and preserves *nix permissions...) |
| 22:33.25 | claint | zepho: since it his own group, he doesn't need to be repeated there |
| 22:33.33 | zepho | claint: ah ok thx |
| 22:33.51 | \amethyst | zepho: maybe umsdos? |
| 22:34.20 | \amethyst | or is that even around anymore? |
| 22:34.43 | agaran | umsdos isn't well supported at windows, that is, windows will access files but also umsdos special files too |
| 22:35.14 | IamSOG | man, I can't isntall synaptic, it said "No candidate version found for synaptic" "no packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed" um... guess I do like Etch more :D |
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| 22:35.35 | \amethyst | agaran: then ISO9660 is all I can think of, and that's read-only |
| 22:35.48 | abrotman | IamSOG: put your sources.list in paste.debian.net |
| 22:35.57 | \amethyst | agaran: (with rock ridge for Unix compatibility and Joliet for MS compatibility) |
| 22:36.13 | agaran | \amethyst: true, its appendable but not easily writeable.. |
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| 22:36.46 | zepho | \amethyst: hm, interesting, never heard of it before |
| 22:36.47 | agaran | \amethyst: i would use normal vfat with mount arguments at linux side, but it ignores file ownership completly |
| 22:37.54 | claint | isn't there stuff to read ext2 from windows? |
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| 22:38.16 | zepho | claint: yeah, i should probably have done it this way |
| 22:38.18 | abrotman | claint: yes |
| 22:38.21 | agaran | claint: it was but dunno if it works well |
| 22:38.24 | agaran | never tried |
| 22:38.25 | claint | i am pretty sure one of the guys in our office used some software to do that |
| 22:38.50 | abrotman | !ext2ifs |
| 22:38.50 | dpkg | it has been said that ext2ifs is a Windows NT driver for reading/writing ext2/3 filesystems. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm |
| 22:39.38 | claint | yeah, feeling lucky |
| 22:39.48 | ZombB | Is it safe to dist-upgrade to kde4 in testing now? What do I have to pay attention to? |
| 22:40.10 | IamSOG | Oh wait a min, window can read Ext2,3 ? :o |
| 22:40.51 | abrotman | ZombB: might want to ask #debian-kde |
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| 22:41.07 | abrotman | ZombB: uh .. on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:41.37 | claint | IamSOG: i think it is just ext2 |
| 22:41.47 | IamSOG | claint that's nice :D |
| 22:42.06 | abrotman | IamSOG: are you pasting your sources? |
| 22:42.18 | IamSOG | abrotman source? sorry, I missed |
| 22:42.19 | ZombB | abrotman, thanx |
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| 22:55.00 | maximi89 | mallxs: hey men! are you there? |
| 22:55.07 | Mallxs | yep |
| 22:55.15 | maximi89 | what say the next file: |
| 22:55.17 | Mallxs | i got my wol running |
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| 22:55.20 | maximi89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.49 | maximi89 | wow, you tell me how you made that works :P |
| 22:56.13 | Joelito | anyone here uses xcompmgr? |
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| 22:56.51 | Mallxs | cat /var/log/pm-suspend.log does some suspends yes |
| 22:57.14 | nabian | debian don't connect to the Internet |
| 22:57.22 | maximi89 | mallxs: you get suspend working now? |
| 22:57.28 | Mallxs | yes |
| 22:57.37 | nabian | Its connect to the router... |
| 22:57.52 | streuner | nabian: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 22:58.13 | Mallxs | maximi89: do you have ethtool installed |
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| 22:58.39 | nabian | out that in the console streuner ? |
| 22:58.44 | nabian | put* |
| 22:58.55 | streuner | nabian: no, in your irc-client |
| 22:59.00 | maximi89 | mallxs: yes i have installed |
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| 23:00.07 | zepho | hm, why do i have bash completion on 'apt-get install k<tab>' as user, but not as root? |
| 23:00.11 | Mallxs | vi /etc/default/halt |
| 23:00.25 | nabian | streuner: and how that help me? |
| 23:00.54 | streuner | no idea, but reading help surely :-P |
| 23:01.06 | Mallxs | add NETDOWN=no |
| 23:01.26 | abrotman | IamSOG: sources? |
| 23:01.33 | maximi89 | mallxs: i can't suspend, when i try to suspend the system hang |
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| 23:01.44 | streuner | nabian: you have to configure your Debian box in order to use i-net and interfaces help in most cases... |
| 23:02.10 | maximi89 | mallxS: and when i check the /var/log/pm-suspend.log i see an error like this... wait |
| 23:02.22 | nabian | oh |
| 23:02.24 | nabian | but |
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| 23:02.59 | maximi89 | mallxs: http://pastebin.ca/1425911 |
| 23:03.04 | ultraj6 | how secure is apt-get |
| 23:03.20 | streuner | since lenny? |
| 23:03.24 | streuner | secure |
| 23:03.43 | nabian | streuner: look...I have a celeron PC which I installed yesterday whit this debian now I connect it t my routerand it don't see this...it dont connect.... |
| 23:03.45 | abrotman | ultraj6: in what sense? |
| 23:03.57 | hacktolive | ultraj6: pretty secure |
| 23:04.11 | streuner | nabian: we told you, read <interfaces> |
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| 23:04.19 | ultraj6 | like what if you hijack the communication and inject whatever you want |
| 23:04.40 | abrotman | ultraj6: the packages have md5sums |
| 23:04.49 | ultraj6 | how does it establish a communication, how does it know the source is trusted |
| 23:04.50 | abrotman | and the serveres have keys |
| 23:04.57 | abrotman | !secure apt |
| 23:04.58 | dpkg | methinks secure apt is http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
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| 23:05.12 | Mallxs | maximi89: so its only 99video |
| 23:05.19 | Mallxs | with a problem |
| 23:05.19 | ultraj6 | ty |
| 23:05.38 | nabian | streuner: it just says http://pastebin.ca/1425914 |
| 23:05.53 | maximi89 | mallxs: but i can't back from blackscreen.... and nothing works |
| 23:06.06 | maximi89 | the system hangs |
| 23:06.14 | streuner | nabian: that looks to me not ok |
| 23:06.24 | streuner | nabian: there is eth0 missing... |
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| 23:06.53 | nabian | I dont understand... |
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| 23:08.39 | streuner | nabian: read examples in factoid <interfaces> |
| 23:09.44 | streuner | nabian: zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 23:10.07 | streuner | nabian: gateway is usually your router |
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| 23:12.50 | Mallxs | maximi89: looks like is has trouble with you video card .. check the 99video file .. is your video list there ? |
| 23:13.55 | Mallxs | maximi89: and then there should be somewhere a config file where you have to tell what card you have |
| 23:15.54 | nabian | streuner: in this pc I have kub*...Its the same? |
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| 23:16.21 | streuner | nabian: kub*? |
| 23:16.33 | nabian | kubuntu |
| 23:16.42 | streuner | omg |
| 23:17.21 | nabian | XD...whats? |
| 23:17.38 | adb | try #ubuntu |
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| 23:19.18 | nabian | but in this pc I have kubuntu...In the other I have lenny that has the problenm whit the router |
| 23:19.34 | nabian | whit the internet |
| 23:19.39 | nabian | whit the lan.. |
| 23:20.06 | freedel | dns? |
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| 23:23.09 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:23.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:23.24 | Mallxs | nadian check the /etc/network/interfaces file the kububtu box and make it the same in the lenny box |
| 23:23.54 | Mallxs | !nl |
| 23:23.54 | maximi89 | abrotman: who are talking in spanish? |
| 23:23.54 | dpkg | nl is The Netherlands. Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl. |
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| 23:24.07 | maximi89 | !en |
| 23:24.07 | dpkg | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 23:24.11 | karmatronic | hi guys |
| 23:24.15 | Polarina | !eo |
| 23:24.16 | maximi89 | hi |
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| 23:24.40 | maximi89 | !fr |
| 23:24.40 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 23:24.51 | abrotman | done yet? |
| 23:25.02 | Mallxs | lat have funn ! |
| 23:25.20 | abrotman | msg the bot if you want to goof around |
| 23:25.22 | maximi89 | i can't get suspend working |
| 23:25.35 | maximi89 | ever hang up the system |
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| 23:25.40 | maximi89 | freeze |
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| 23:26.20 | Mallxs | maximi89: are you also loged in at the consiole or something ? |
| 23:26.28 | maximi89 | yes |
| 23:26.30 | karmatronic | so what s up with gnome2.26,will we have to move to kde or what ... |
| 23:26.32 | maximi89 | why? |
| 23:26.48 | Mallxs | and you have a desttop open |
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| 23:27.29 | karmatronic | !gnome2.26 |
| 23:27.38 | maximi89 | mallxs: if you mean the problem is that, i try with GUI and Terminal |
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| 23:27.53 | Mallxs | testing my wol i aslo had two desktops open with "switch user" .. and on one of them did a shutdown .. |
| 23:28.13 | maximi89 | the same problem with both, the HDD stop when suspend, and i try with keys and other, but nothing, i ping my computer but nothing works |
| 23:28.22 | Mallxs | the screen whened black but no shutdown |
| 23:28.27 | maximi89 | yes |
| 23:28.35 | maximi89 | but doesn't works too |
| 23:28.38 | maximi89 | :S |
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| 23:29.22 | Mallxs | for the wol i had to tel /proc/acpi/wakeup to watch what devices |
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| 23:29.55 | maximi89 | lol |
| 23:29.56 | Mallxs | by echo "MMAC" > /proc/acpi/wakeup |
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| 23:30.52 | Mallxs | if you do a cat /proc/acpi/wakeup you can see what more you can set .. like umm HUB0 and USDx |
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| 23:31.24 | Mallxs | s/USD/USB/ |
| 23:31.36 | maximi89 | yes |
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| 23:31.43 | maximi89 | i'm looking that |
| 23:31.45 | Mallxs | maximi89: it'slate here in .nl i go to the bitte bak |
| 23:31.57 | maximi89 | ah? |
| 23:32.02 | maximi89 | you go to eat? |
| 23:32.06 | maximi89 | nice |
| 23:32.08 | Mallxs | no sleep |
| 23:32.20 | maximi89 | really nice good the see you |
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| 23:32.34 | Mallxs | same to you see you next time |
| 23:32.56 | maximi89 | good bye! |
| 23:33.00 | Mallxs | bibi |
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| 23:35.26 | Polarina | On Debian Squeeze, installing 'gcc', installs 'gcc-4.3' instead of 'gcc-4.4'. Any way to change that? |
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| 23:35.39 | abrotman | it'll happen later i'd guess |
| 23:35.53 | Polarina | abrotman: :( |
| 23:35.55 | abrotman | !depends gcc sid |
| 23:36.00 | abrotman | !depends gcc squeeze |
| 23:36.15 | dpkg | gcc: depends on cpp (>= 4:4.3.3-5), gcc-4.3 (>= 4.3.3-2) |
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| 23:36.53 | maximi89 | abrotman: what permission have the file /sys/power/state= |
| 23:36.54 | maximi89 | ? |
| 23:36.57 | abrotman | Polarina: seems to be the same in sid |
| 23:37.07 | abrotman | maximi89: you tell me what yours is |
| 23:37.13 | Polarina | I just want the command line program 'gcc' use gcc-4.4 instead of gcc-4.3. |
| 23:37.17 | maximi89 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 may 17 19:20 /sys/power/state |
| 23:37.23 | abrotman | seems fine |
| 23:37.30 | maximi89 | thanks |
| 23:37.32 | abrotman | Polarina: why? |
| 23:37.54 | Polarina | abrotman: Because I want to use gcc 4.4. |
| 23:37.57 | jpinx-eeepc | I've been looking at logging and I can't find a way to configure it to only keep logs for - say - the last 100 logins. Is there a way to do that? |
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| 23:38.04 | abrotman | Polarina: so install it and change the symlink |
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| 23:38.19 | intx | is it safe to write to ntfs from linux yet? (well, at least as safe as it is in windows?) |
| 23:38.21 | Polarina | abrotman: Ok. |
| 23:38.33 | jpinx-eeepc | intx: yes |
| 23:38.49 | jpinx-eeepc | intx: use ntfs -3g |
| 23:39.18 | maximi89 | abrotman: if i make a echo S3 > sleep or echo -n "mem" > state that will be work? right? |
| 23:39.23 | jpinx-eeepc | without the space - it's ntfs-3g |
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| 23:39.32 | abrotman | maximi89: i don't sleep .. you're asking the wrong person |
| 23:39.42 | abrotman | uhm .. use sleep |
| 23:39.53 | claint | :) |
| 23:40.06 | maximi89 | abrotman: but when i made that tell me permission denied |
| 23:40.06 | maximi89 | :S |
| 23:40.13 | Polarina | abrotman: How do I change a symlink? |
| 23:40.32 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: you might have to do sleep as root |
| 23:40.33 | maximi89 | abrotman: i'm reading http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html |
| 23:41.00 | maximi89 | jpinx-eeepc: yes, but still saying denied |
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| 23:41.35 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: it's not possible to deny root permission - you've got some other issue |
| 23:41.38 | abrotman | Polarina: i don't think there's a way to update a symlink .. so you can remove it and then recreate it pointing where you want it to |
| 23:41.57 | Polarina | abrotman: Ok. |
| 23:42.16 | maximi89 | jpinx-eeepc: http://pastebin.ca/1425937 |
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| 23:43.11 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: try su-ing into root and do it |
| 23:43.20 | jpinx-eeepc | sudo might have some oddities |
| 23:43.43 | maximi89 | ok |
| 23:43.57 | adb | cat /proc/acpi/sleep |
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| 23:44.22 | adb | here default has : S0 S3 S4 S5 |
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| 23:44.45 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: not so much cat as ls -al /proc/acpi ;) |
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| 23:45.43 | jpinx-eeepc | any logging knowledge around this evening? ^^ |
| 23:46.13 | adb | me ? no |
| 23:46.55 | jpinx-eeepc | wants to do logging for only a number of logins - not a period of time |
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| 23:47.29 | maximi891 | yes men you have reason, but the problems still there |
| 23:47.33 | maximi891 | i cant back from suspend |
| 23:48.14 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:48.36 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi891 if you're suspended - how are you on here? |
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| 23:48.59 | maximi891 | i'm not suspended now |
| 23:49.09 | maximi891 | but when i try faiols |
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| 23:49.30 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi891 paste dmesg |
| 23:49.58 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi891: and paste ls -al /proc/acpi |
| 23:50.14 | adb | maximi891: ^^ said what |
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| 23:50.21 | maximi891 | wait me a second |
| 23:50.41 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: not sure - but it fails in some way or another |
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| 23:53.30 | maximi891 | jpinx-eeepc: dmesg http://pastebin.ca/1425942 |
| 23:53.30 | maximi891 | http://pastebin.ca/1425945 |
| 23:54.05 | chomwitt | i have in my lenny pc linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 and linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 deb packages installed. Can i remove one of them? |
| 23:55.22 | adb | apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 |
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| 23:56.07 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi891: root doesn't have execute permission for sleep |
| 23:56.16 | jpinx-eeepc | you'll need to chmod it |
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| 23:56.52 | maximi891 | i use the GUI |
| 23:57.09 | maximi891 | but still freezing when i try suspend |
| 23:57.13 | maximi891 | hibernate works nicely |
| 23:57.28 | adb | !suspend |
| 23:57.28 | dpkg | Suspend can mean either suspend to disk (a.k.a. hibernate) or suspend to ram. The in-kernel suspend now works pretty well in etch (and even better in lenny) . There are also kernel patches that provide more features such as <tuxonice>. Installing the uswsusp and hibernate packages along with a front-end like gnome-power-manager or kpowersave should be enough. Also ask me about <suspend troubleshooting>. <swapwake> |
| 23:58.01 | maximi891 | suspend to ram |
| 23:58.16 | maximi891 | suspend to disk works nicely, but to ram have problems |
| 23:58.32 | amphi | maximi891: I have often found that |
| 23:58.58 | jpinx-eeepc | you need a lot of RAM to suspend to it |
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| 23:59.00 | positron | Is it possible to save the contents of RAM every hour to swap using hibernate, so that when the system locks or there is a power shortage, I can recover things in the state they were? |
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| 23:59.10 | maximi891 | amphi: i have 1GB |
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| 23:59.17 | jpinx-eeepc | and it doesn't seem to warn you if it's a tight fit |