| 00:00.14 | nsadmin | I've noticed over time that sometimes a machine would unexpectedly beep when suspicious connections to it were happening |
| 00:00.42 | nsadmin | has nothing to do with the mouse thing |
| 00:01.02 | ttl- | nsadmin: now it seems to work, dunno why but it does, rebooted 3 times and it works every time now |
| 00:01.08 | ttl- | lol |
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| 00:01.14 | shadowpho | nsadmin: oh, I see |
| 00:02.08 | shadowpho | is a PS/2 mouse hot-pluggable? |
| 00:02.43 | nsadmin | ttl-: the order that it does things looks ok, it starts networking (probably in /etc/rc2.d) and then starts ipmasq |
| 00:03.13 | nsadmin | err no, probably starts networking in rcS.d |
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| 00:06.34 | ShadowPho | I have 3 mice in front of me. A serial, a usb and a freaking PS/2. |
| 00:06.43 | ShadowPho | goes to get a fourth mice that works |
| 00:06.53 | nsadmin | ps2 mouse is not hot pluggable |
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| 00:07.41 | mns_ | What does one need to bring up a wireless interface from the command line ? |
| 00:07.58 | nsadmin | typing skills? :) |
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| 00:08.21 | mns_ | nice nsadmin :) |
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| 00:08.23 | BCM43 | lal |
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| 00:08.28 | BCM43 | *lol |
| 00:08.48 | at0m|c | mns: man iwconfig |
| 00:08.57 | at0m|c | mns_: man iwconfig |
| 00:09.00 | ttl- | goodnight! |
| 00:09.30 | ShadowPho | I GOT A MOUSE THAT WORKS!!!! |
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| 00:10.17 | mns_ | at0m|c: I did. and I tried some things based on the man page but couldn't get it to connect. Ended up switching to X11, then having wicd-client do the connection for me and then quiting out of X11. |
| 00:10.29 | BCM43 | I am following http://madberry.org/2008/08/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-wireless-to-work-2/, and after make i get /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.29-2-686/build: No such file or directory /n Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.29-2-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop. |
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| 00:10.52 | BCM43 | [/n added by me] |
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| 00:11.41 | ShadowPho | how do I start xterm from startx ? |
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| 00:12.21 | nsadmin | ShadowPho your mouse working now? |
| 00:12.24 | ShadowPho | which package is glxgears under? |
| 00:12.33 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: yep, and that explains why keyboard/X didn't work! |
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| 00:12.49 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: simply because I didn't highlight the black box meant my keyboard didn't type |
| 00:13.27 | nsadmin | try right clicking on the screen somewhere |
| 00:13.49 | nsadmin | you running a wm? |
| 00:14.10 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: oh, yay, thank you! |
| 00:14.15 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: blackbox works |
| 00:14.29 | BCM43 | I am following http://madberry.org/2008/08/how-to-get-atheros-ar242x-wireless-to-work-2/, and after make i get /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.29-2-686/build: No such file or directory [/n] Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.29-2-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop. |
| 00:15.05 | mns_ | BCM43: Just a guess but where are your kernel sources kept ? |
| 00:15.11 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: what is the lightest browser that supports images excluding links,links2,lynx,w3m? |
| 00:15.19 | BCM43 | mns: i don't know |
| 00:15.37 | nsadmin | dunno |
| 00:15.41 | amphi | ShadowPho: netsurf probably |
| 00:15.46 | mns_ | BCM43: I believe you're missing the linux-headers package |
| 00:15.47 | amphi | ShadowPho: or dillo |
| 00:16.28 | ShadowPho | ooo zsh config |
| 00:16.34 | ShadowPho | amphi: thank you! I shall download both |
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| 00:18.17 | edwin_quijada | How can I get serial ID from my disk |
| 00:18.24 | edwin_quijada | hard disk? |
| 00:18.32 | ShadowPho | there's no dillo debian package? |
| 00:18.32 | BCM43 | mns: no, i have it |
| 00:18.52 | ShadowPho | edwin_quijada: you can use mhdd from a floppy, or load any SMART utilities in linux |
| 00:19.19 | edwin_quijada | ShadowPho: Can i use an internal commando |
| 00:19.28 | edwin_quijada | no external like diskettes |
| 00:19.42 | edwin_quijada | just i need the disk serial ID |
| 00:20.08 | ShadowPho | edwin_quijada: check in BIOS :) |
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| 00:20.31 | edwin_quijada | ShadowPho: i need to do this from a C program |
| 00:21.05 | mns_ | BCM43: on mine /lib/modules/2.6.29-1-686-bigmem/build is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.29-1-686-bigmem which comes from the linux-headers-2.6.29-1-686-bigmem package. Maybe you might want to try re-installing the headers ? |
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| 00:23.00 | ShadowPho | edwin_quijada: generally C tries to abstract you from the hardware. However, you can probably find it on google by searching "getting disk parameters" |
| 00:23.24 | BCM43 | mns: k, thanks |
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| 00:24.18 | ShadowPho | what is mesa? |
| 00:24.40 | stew | ShadowPho: /msg dpkg mesa |
| 00:24.44 | edwin_quijada | ok |
| 00:25.07 | ShadowPho | |
| 00:26.03 | mns_ | Which package allows me to look at the battery status using /proc ? on my squeeze system it doesn't seem to exist in /proc/acpi/battery anymore. |
| 00:27.18 | abrotman | proc is dying |
| 00:27.33 | abrotman | your battery monitor should be looking in /sys/ |
| 00:27.53 | ShadowPho | stew: thank you! |
| 00:28.57 | mns_ | abrotman: any idea where in /sys it should be looking ? Is there some information available about /proc dying and /sys taking its place ? |
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| 00:29.30 | abrotman | mns_: my battery monitors work perfectly fine |
| 00:30.27 | stuNNed | anyone know the benefits of having DKMS installed? |
| 00:31.42 | abrotman | mns_: which battery monitor are you using? |
| 00:31.57 | mns_ | abrotman: emacs is my battery monitor. I'll need to find out where in /sys the information is kept to modify the battery-status code. |
| 00:32.22 | abrotman | mns_: did you try another battery monitor ? |
| 00:34.25 | mns_ | Yeah I've tried htop as well. It wouldn't work with that also. gkrellm works fine, but its useless when you're not running X11 (like right now). |
| 00:35.30 | abrotman | i thought theymovbed to /sys/ |
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| 00:36.43 | mns_ | I can also get the information from the cli using "acpi -b" .. hmm |
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| 00:44.01 | themill | mns_: poke around in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/ |
| 00:44.28 | themill | (or /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/ ) |
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| 00:49.07 | mns_ | themill: thanks. found it. Now I just need to figure out what they're talking about in all those files :) I can't use /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0 since it doesn't exist on my system. |
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| 00:49.23 | abrotman | mine is BAT1 |
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| 00:52.24 | mns_ | abrotman: do you have a charge_now and charge_full for your BAT1 ? |
| 00:52.38 | abrotman | nope .. |
| 00:52.47 | abrotman | wait .. let me double chekc |
| 00:53.03 | abrotman | i have energy_full and energy_now |
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| 00:53.14 | abrotman | but i'm on a .26 |
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| 00:54.05 | mns_ | abrotman: I'm on a .29 and I've got the same energey_full and energy_now |
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| 01:19.51 | enouf | mns_: when in doubt i use something like this to locate where to look; cd src_of_ kernel/ ; ind . -name 'Kconfig*' | xargs grep -il acpi | xargs grep -il bat | xargs grep -il sys |
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| 01:20.46 | enouf | mns_: then, there's all the 'sys' related files within /Documentation, but IIRC, there's more info in the Kconfig files than there is in any of the docs |
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| 01:21.15 | enouf | (about the move of BAT and stuff from /proc/ over to /sys/) |
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| 01:22.23 | mns_ | enouf: thanks. I'll give that a look over. its fun being able to do all this while I'm sitting in a plane. Southwest (in the USA) is trying out wi-fi on some of their routes. I just lucked out and happen to be on one. |
| 01:23.03 | enouf | greycat will have my head for using xargs, but he's not around now .. i'd like to ask what would be his alternative |
| 01:23.37 | enouf | mns_: welp - hope you reach your destination safe and sound ;-) |
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| 01:23.58 | Sertse | hi |
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| 01:24.52 | enouf | mns_: having the src/ around is just .. handy - even if you don't plan on using it to build anything - i store it elsewhere, not in /usr/src/ or anything - and if i do use it to build, i build it elsewhere (i have several HDDs) |
| 01:26.07 | ShadowPho | hmmm |
| 01:26.08 | pingouin | wich tool for virtualisation do you recommend ? kvm virtualbox xen something else ? |
| 01:26.22 | ShadowPho | Hey guys, I only get 16 FPS in HL1 with a 9200 SE |
| 01:26.24 | ShadowPho | why is that? |
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| 01:26.46 | pingouin | ShadowPho: wich drivers do you run ? |
| 01:26.49 | zinx | ShadowPho: 1) old card, 2) slow drivers, 3) pretendulation via wine |
| 01:27.01 | ShadowPho | which drivers SHOULD I use? |
| 01:27.15 | ShadowPho | I mean, I expect to get much better with a 9200 Se, 128 MBs |
| 01:27.19 | ShadowPho | pingouin: I think radeon |
| 01:27.46 | ShadowPho | oh.. and it tells me only 7MBs free of RAM |
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| 01:28.29 | mns_ | pingouin: I have settled on kvm. Its just easier. I couldn't get things to work properly enough with virtualbox. Did not try xen. I probably missed a few steps when working with virtualbox |
| 01:28.42 | phaidros | pingouin: I use xen since years |
| 01:29.01 | mns_ | enouf: thanks for the help. I also keep the sources around but didn't think of looking in there. I need to start doing more of that. |
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| 01:29.14 | phaidros | at least for servers, on desktop kvm or virtualbox are useful alike |
| 01:29.34 | pingouin | mns , phaidros , ok thanks i'm a noobs in virtualisation, so the easiest it the best for begin |
| 01:29.42 | pingouin | it's more for desktop |
| 01:30.40 | enouf | mns_: for example; look in the /Documentation/cpu*/ dirs for mucho info about cpufreq scaling and such |
| 01:33.27 | mns_ | pingouin: same here. noobs at virtualisation so went with kvm |
| 01:33.57 | mns_ | pingouin: of course I need to redo the stuff I did two weeks ago as I've got no networking and no access to devices connected to the host. :( |
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| 01:35.17 | mns_ | enouf: you in my head or something ? I was about look into cpufreq stuff because I wanted to see if there was a way for shutting down one of the cores and maybe save my power consumption and make the laptop last longer. |
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| 01:35.45 | ShadowPho | How well does debian handle motherboard/CPU changes? |
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| 01:36.26 | ShadowPho | e.g. Would it be possible to change the motherboard and the Athlon 1.1 to P4 1.8 and have it work faster? |
| 01:36.32 | zinx | ShadowPho: much better than it handles video card changes |
| 01:36.42 | dotCOMmie | ShadowPho: if you stock kernel it should go well |
| 01:36.52 | abrotman | zinx: with the way X is now, should be fine |
| 01:36.54 | ShadowPho | awesome! Thank you guys! :D |
| 01:37.02 | nsadmin | you're running i386 arch, yes? |
| 01:37.03 | dotCOMmie | s/you stock/you use the stock/ |
| 01:37.04 | zinx | abrotman: completely broken? |
| 01:37.10 | ShadowPho | Would P4 1.8 work faster than Athlon 1.1? |
| 01:37.16 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: yep |
| 01:37.26 | zinx | abrotman: i am not impressed with X.org recently ;) |
| 01:37.26 | abrotman | zinx: why would it be? your xorg.conf is normally empty and it probes your hardware and uses its best guess |
| 01:37.36 | abrotman | zinx: your xorg.conf is full of junk isn't it? :) |
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| 01:37.41 | nsadmin | yeah, you could change between those I think... which kernel you running? |
| 01:37.46 | ShadowPho | latest |
| 01:37.50 | zinx | abrotman: the hotplug stuff has seriously fubared every time i've tried to use it |
| 01:37.52 | nsadmin | uname -r? |
| 01:37.53 | ShadowPho | 2.6.22 if memory serves me right |
| 01:37.55 | ShadowPho | ok |
| 01:38.10 | ShadowPho | 2.6.26-2-486 |
| 01:38.24 | pingouin | zinx: why ? the new xorg in lenny is great , for me...worked out of the box....even my fonts.... it was painfull before |
| 01:38.31 | mns_ | ShadowPho: .29 is latest. .26 is lenny and/or squeeze. |
| 01:38.39 | dotCOMmie | I have a weird problem. I remapped capslock key to F35 and want to do the same to the menu key (by right alt) xmodmap -e "keycode 135 = F35" |
| 01:38.43 | pingouin | just have to add some options for my keyboard |
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| 01:38.46 | zinx | it's only recently that my keyboard LEDs even work properly :/ |
| 01:38.50 | nsadmin | yes, and if you change to a -686 should be much faster even on what you have |
| 01:38.53 | ShadowPho | mns_: oh, my fault |
| 01:39.02 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: so should I compile one for 686? |
| 01:39.10 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: would I get 5% boost or so? |
| 01:39.16 | zinx | and for some reason on my laptop, it -still- doesn't load all the key maps sometimes, and ignores my grp:alts_toggle in the hal config for it |
| 01:39.16 | dotCOMmie | It seems to work. Then I bind a global shortcut to kde4 (yakuake) the capslock key works but the menu key does nothing |
| 01:39.18 | nsadmin | no, just install an existing one |
| 01:39.32 | mns_ | ShadowPho: how much memory you have on that system ? |
| 01:39.40 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: can you point me in a right direction? |
| 01:39.44 | ShadowPho | mns_: 512MB |
| 01:39.52 | nsadmin | you could compile one if you want but there's one that should work |
| 01:39.54 | ShadowPho | mns_: I can add more if that's the problem |
| 01:40.17 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: can you point me to a guide which helps me upgrade to a 486 :)? |
| 01:40.21 | nsadmin | how much can you add? the more the merrier |
| 01:40.32 | nsadmin | just install it from apt |
| 01:40.37 | mns_ | ShadowPho: no need to add more. was just making sure if you needed bigmem kernel or not to have access to memory in access of 4GB |
| 01:40.43 | ``y7 | how do i run the debian-installer setup from a terminal? I'm talking about the setup from before debian is installed, when you select the language and the keyboard, setup the eth0 and eth1, setup the admin passwords... etc? |
| 01:40.50 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 01:40.50 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips#s-chroot . It is key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <i-g>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 01:41.09 | ShadowPho | mns_: nah, this is an old box |
| 01:41.32 | mns_ | ShadowPho: ok |
| 01:41.36 | nsadmin | ``y7: you want a new installation? |
| 01:41.51 | abrotman | ``y7: oh ignore what the bot just said |
| 01:41.57 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: dist-upgrade? |
| 01:42.01 | abrotman | ``y7: you can't rerun all that in one shot .. which do you want to change? |
| 01:42.04 | remote | Hi, I'm wanting to install debian on a laptop that only has wireless access to the internet via a BCM4312 nic, is that possible? |
| 01:42.06 | nsadmin | nonono :) |
| 01:42.11 | nsadmin | what dist you running now? |
| 01:42.11 | ``y7 | abrotman, the eth1 and eth0 |
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| 01:42.21 | abrotman | !tell remote about installer firmware |
| 01:42.23 | ``y7 | debian 4.0 |
| 01:42.39 | remote | abrotman: cheers |
| 01:42.45 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: lenny... how can I check? I installed one from online |
| 01:42.56 | ShadowPho | !tell ShadowPho about installer firmware |
| 01:43.09 | nsadmin | ShadowPho: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:43.13 | nsadmin | should say 5 |
| 01:43.14 | remote | abrotman: that brings me to my second problem, I cannot use any type of media |
| 01:43.27 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: 5.0.1 |
| 01:43.37 | nsadmin | so you're running latest stable |
| 01:43.45 | abrotman | remote: so you want to install stuff .. without using anything ? |
| 01:43.48 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: and I need to go to a i686 :) |
| 01:43.51 | abrotman | hands remote a magnet |
| 01:43.52 | nsadmin | once more your uname -r? |
| 01:43.55 | remote | I remember installing netbsd by writing an image to my harddrive using dd and rebooting the computer brought the installer up, that's probably also possible using a debian installer, is it? |
| 01:44.02 | nsadmin | forgot :) |
| 01:44.09 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: 2.6.26-2-486 |
| 01:44.09 | abrotman | remote: i have no idea how you'd do that with the firmware you'll need |
| 01:44.25 | remote | maybe by creating the image myself |
| 01:44.27 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: it's cool :) |
| 01:44.31 | nsadmin | judd, versions 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 01:44.33 | judd | nsadmin: 2.6.26-2-686 -- |
| 01:44.33 | remote | i don't know much about them however |
| 01:44.38 | remote | there's most likely documentation on that |
| 01:44.41 | nsadmin | judd, versions 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 01:44.41 | judd | nsadmin: 2.6.26-1-686 -- |
| 01:44.45 | abrotman | nsadmin: stop already |
| 01:45.03 | nsadmin | where |
| 01:45.07 | abrotman | what are you looking for? |
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| 01:45.28 | nsadmin | a 686 2.6.26 for lennty |
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| 01:45.39 | elik | Why do I get this error message? WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! |
| 01:45.59 | elik | I've had it a few times and never could understand why I get it |
| 01:46.00 | abrotman | aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 .. that's all he needs |
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| 01:46.14 | nsadmin | ShadowPho: there ya go |
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| 01:46.39 | nsadmin | ShadowPho you running grub? |
| 01:46.49 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: yep! |
| 01:46.53 | ShadowPho | abrotman: thank you! |
| 01:47.31 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: wouldn't apt fix the grub anyway? |
| 01:47.42 | nsadmin | did you turn on the savedefault thing in grub? |
| 01:47.46 | nsadmin | yes |
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| 01:48.08 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: I did not touch anything in menu.lst or with grub |
| 01:49.02 | nsadmin | so yeah, install that... (don't remove the old one, it works and if the new one doesn't you'd have a fallback) |
| 01:49.13 | nsadmin | then reboot |
| 01:49.29 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: what do I install besides the new kernel? |
| 01:49.38 | nsadmin | that's it |
| 01:49.53 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: awesome! |
| 01:50.02 | nsadmin | what do you want to install besides the new kernel :) |
| 01:50.07 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: is 686 for P4 too? |
| 01:50.13 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: I want to make my laptop faster too! |
| 01:50.20 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: my laptop is epically slow |
| 01:50.23 | nsadmin | should work |
| 01:50.23 | ``y7 | if i want to setup eth0 to be my dhcp nic and i want to setup eth1 to be my default gateway. how would i go about doing that because everytime i try, i lose internet after i setup eth1... |
| 01:50.31 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: awesome!!!! |
| 01:50.40 | nsadmin | what's your laptop's /etc/debian_version? |
| 01:50.46 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: same as this one's |
| 01:51.15 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: rebooting :) |
| 01:51.17 | nsadmin | and a p4 cpu, what is that an inspiron 5xxx? |
| 01:51.20 | mns_ | Whats the correct way to install the linux sources in Debian ? aptitude install linux-source-2.6.29 just installs a tar file. Is that all there is to that package ? |
| 01:51.26 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: yep :( |
| 01:51.46 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: P4 @ 2.8, and that's not a mobile p4. |
| 01:51.50 | absolute_insane | ciao to all guyz |
| 01:51.54 | nsadmin | mns_: yep, just install it |
| 01:51.59 | nsadmin | err untar it |
| 01:52.03 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: It's an actual desktop p4, produces more heat then my desky |
| 01:52.49 | absolute_insane | debian has debian way and package to automatixe building and installing kernels |
| 01:52.53 | enouf | when you do ~$ xmodmap -pke is anyone else missing the first 7 entries? |
| 01:53.06 | nsadmin | the tar file is the source |
| 01:53.12 | absolute_insane | but u can do the linux way too |
| 01:53.14 | absolute_insane | :P |
| 01:53.17 | enouf | keycode 8 = |
| 01:53.19 | enouf | keycode 9 = Escape NoSymbol Escape NoSymbol Escape |
| 01:53.28 | mns_ | nsadmin: ok thanks. |
| 01:53.29 | enouf | is where mine starts |
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| 01:54.05 | nsadmin | enouf: mine too |
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| 01:54.13 | ShadowPho | Yay I am back |
| 01:54.15 | nsadmin | on an etch box |
| 01:54.19 | GT1 | Anyone know how I would set me CC environment variable to gcc4.1? Nvidia's kernel module compiling deal wants me to. |
| 01:54.32 | enouf | nsadmin: heh -pk "There are 6 KeySyms per KeyCode; KeyCodes range from 8 to 255." |
| 01:54.50 | enouf | nsadmin: your NumPad works? |
| 01:54.52 | nsadmin | GT1: what happens when you type gcc4.1 |
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| 01:55.21 | nsadmin | yep, numpad works |
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| 01:55.28 | GT1 | nsadmin: In the terminal emulator? Command not found. |
| 01:55.47 | enouf | crap - it works in Console ... ugh - it's some X issue |
| 01:55.49 | absolute_insane | mns_, http://debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-kernel-details !!!!! |
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| 01:56.05 | absolute_insane | read THE Reference ^^ |
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| 01:56.31 | absolute_insane | reference is the start |
| 01:56.55 | nsadmin | GT1 what happens when you type gcc, leave the cursor right after the c and hit tab a coupla times |
| 01:56.56 | enouf | nsadmin: are you still using an xorg.conf? ahh etch, ofcourse you are ;-) |
| 01:57.06 | ShadowPho | nsadmin: thank you :) my fps is a tad better |
| 01:57.40 | nsadmin | kernel compiles shoudl be much faster too |
| 01:57.50 | GT1 | nsadmin: It shows that I have gcc-4.1 installed, as well as gcc-4.3 |
| 01:58.03 | enouf | http://rafb.net/p/xxB0yM81.html nsadmin always worked prior for me fine :-( |
| 01:58.08 | nsadmin | ohh, ok so you don't need to install it |
| 01:58.17 | nsadmin | so you set the var to gcc-4.1 |
| 01:58.17 | enouf | GT1: it's ok to have both installed |
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| 01:58.44 | GT1 | nsadmin, enouf: I figured as much. How do I set this environment variable, though? |
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| 01:59.00 | enouf | export CC=gcc-version |
| 01:59.04 | nsadmin | export CC=gcc-4.1 |
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| 01:59.12 | GT1 | Excellent. |
| 01:59.21 | nsadmin | note where the spaces are and are -not- |
| 01:59.37 | nsadmin | sh/bash is very picky about that |
| 01:59.47 | GT1 | Gotcha. |
| 01:59.50 | absolute_insane | environmente variable? in make.conf? |
| 02:00.40 | absolute_insane | are mumbling |
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| 02:02.05 | owen1_ | how to see all the apps that run on startup? (using terminal, no gnome/kde) |
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| 02:03.55 | mns_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.14 | mns_ | owen1_: also you can use ps uaxwww | less |
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| 02:04.26 | nevyn | ps -ef|less |
| 02:04.27 | nevyn | ;) |
| 02:04.49 | nevyn | SYSV ps ftw |
| 02:04.59 | absolute_insane | :O these command are to see the actual processes running |
| 02:05.41 | absolute_insane | to read startup procedure u nust study debian init |
| 02:05.47 | absolute_insane | *must |
| 02:05.49 | abrotman | none of you answered his question |
| 02:05.57 | enouf | owen1_: /msg dpkg rcconf |
| 02:05.58 | mns_ | ls /var/run |
| 02:06.51 | owen1_ | mns_: great. |
| 02:07.06 | enouf | owen1_: find /etc/rc?.d/ -name 'S*' |
| 02:07.10 | owen1_ | mns_: i see all kind of stuff i am not sure i want to run on startup |
| 02:07.27 | absolute_insane | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.36 | epsas | j/win 2 |
| 02:08.07 | absolute_insane | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.16 | enouf | remember to run update-rcconf-guide once installed |
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| 02:09.12 | enouf | owen1_: rcconf gives you an easy way to toggle services on/off through an ncurses interface |
| 02:09.25 | owen1_ | enouf: sweet |
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| 02:10.12 | absolute_insane | http://debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-boot |
| 02:10.20 | enouf | owen1_: naturally 'apt-cache show rcconf' would've told you that ;-) |
| 02:10.25 | absolute_insane | http://debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.it.html#s-init-hints |
| 02:10.39 | absolute_insane | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys#s-sysvinit |
| 02:10.43 | owen1_ | enouf: i use aptitude (-: |
| 02:10.45 | enouf | owen1_: nd yes, the debian reference is well worth reading |
| 02:10.51 | enouf | s/nd/and |
| 02:10.59 | absolute_insane | init owen1_ init |
| 02:11.08 | enouf | owen1_: no difference in the show aspect |
| 02:11.21 | enouf | !startup |
| 02:11.21 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc> <rc.local> <runlevel>. |
| 02:11.31 | enouf | er |
| 02:11.39 | enouf | !services |
| 02:11.39 | dpkg | i guess services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of <rcconf>, sysvconfig, <sysv-rc-conf>, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/, or /etc/services a port numbers list, or http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers |
| 02:11.46 | enouf | bah .. i forget |
| 02:11.56 | absolute_insane | enouf, u right, nice ^^ dpkgbot is a veru good help :P |
| 02:12.17 | absolute_insane | open a private chat with it and ask to it |
| 02:12.22 | enouf | absolute_insane: it's extremely helpful - yes - props to dondelelcaro et al |
| 02:12.46 | absolute_insane | dondelelcaro is great :P |
| 02:12.52 | enouf | absolute_insane: /msg dpkg reference ; /msg dpkg grounding ;-) |
| 02:13.05 | absolute_insane | i konow :P |
| 02:13.12 | absolute_insane | *know |
| 02:13.18 | mns_ | are both cpufreqd and cpufrequtils needed to be running at the same time ? |
| 02:13.25 | enouf | *blushes* |
| 02:13.45 | enouf | mns_: i think the latter is newer ... not sure |
| 02:14.01 | enouf | mns_: lesswatts.org ;0 |
| 02:14.28 | absolute_insane | o.O mns_ what is the reason of the word 'at the same time' ? lol |
| 02:15.07 | absolute_insane | notihng is 'at the same time' |
| 02:15.13 | absolute_insane | *are |
| 02:15.18 | enouf | !concurrent |
| 02:15.21 | enouf | :-p |
| 02:15.32 | absolute_insane | :O |
| 02:15.42 | owen1_ | is there a way to tweak xterm to let me click on those wonderful links in irssi? |
| 02:16.09 | absolute_insane | insane trolling? no no no ... |
| 02:17.02 | absolute_insane | mmm i have the sme 'problem' whit xchat owen1_ :P we are n00b :P |
| 02:17.07 | absolute_insane | *same |
| 02:17.12 | dansushi | how do i install korean text in debian? |
| 02:17.27 | absolute_insane | omg |
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| 02:18.24 | absolute_insane | dunno at momet dansushi but it is about i18n ... |
| 02:18.44 | absolute_insane | or 'localization' |
| 02:18.47 | streuner_ | !locales |
| 02:18.47 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. |
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| 02:19.49 | absolute_insane | mmm this way sets the X fonts too? |
| 02:20.02 | streuner | no |
| 02:20.10 | absolute_insane | heheh |
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| 02:21.16 | absolute_insane | nothing is simple, nothing is complicated |
| 02:22.10 | absolute_insane | is going insane, needs a big Cigaretta! |
| 02:22.18 | abrotman | !it |
| 02:22.18 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:22.33 | absolute_insane | o.O |
| 02:23.11 | enouf | nsadmin: darnnit - my Home and End keys don't do anything but output a tilde ~ :-p |
| 02:23.17 | absolute_insane | sorry for the spm mem ... |
| 02:23.21 | absolute_insane | *spam |
| 02:23.28 | streuner | dansushi: i have no idea what influence locales have to fonts, but just configure locales and we will see what happens... |
| 02:23.43 | dansushi | streuner: how do i do that? |
| 02:24.04 | streuner | dansushi: dpkg-reconfigure locales and log out and back in |
| 02:24.09 | enouf | nsadmin: in console though - evrything works fine |
| 02:24.30 | enouf | hates restarting shit to test shit |
| 02:24.53 | absolute_insane | lol |
| 02:26.47 | absolute_insane | however, abrotman i get much more help here than in #debian-it, really, but sorry for my spam and my english :P |
| 02:27.20 | streuner | hehe |
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| 02:27.44 | absolute | italian are ... trolls!!! |
| 02:28.13 | abrotman | absolute: please stop |
| 02:28.38 | streuner | absolute: try #debian-offtopic, #debian is a support channel... |
| 02:28.57 | absolute | ok ok sorry, pardon |
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| 02:31.17 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.26 | streuner | not bad for my laptop |
| 02:31.58 | streuner | with its new version of firecrap its more and more stable ;-) |
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| 02:32.51 | absolute | firecrap? streuner what is ? |
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| 02:33.14 | streuner | firefox - in Debian iceweasel |
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| 02:37.04 | abrotman | streuner: stop calling it that |
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| 02:37.45 | streuner | do you prefer another name? |
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| 02:37.54 | streuner | any suggestions? |
| 02:38.00 | abrotman | the real name |
| 02:38.07 | streuner | nah |
| 02:38.16 | streuner | you have to call what it is - crap |
| 02:38.26 | abrotman | then just don't talk about it |
| 02:38.36 | abrotman | it's getting pretty silly that people can't use the actual names |
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| 02:38.57 | absolute | i vote for abrotman |
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| 02:39.12 | streuner | yes, vote for an american troll |
| 02:39.24 | absolute | omg |
| 02:39.37 | abrotman | streuner: quit acting like a child |
| 02:39.50 | absolute | this is the debian chan my kid |
| 02:39.54 | blackbeard2001 | ok, who is a screen-hacker here? ;) I use %l in the hardstatus to see the load of the machine. is and how is it possible to get this load a different colour if it goes over a certain limit? |
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| 02:40.41 | enouf | TERM=xterm-colors or something .. screen uses your TERM env variable, IIRC |
| 02:40.57 | blackbeard2001 | nothing to do with that |
| 02:41.06 | blackbeard2001 | i allready HAVE colours in that line |
| 02:41.08 | enouf | but that's only the 1st step |
| 02:41.29 | blackbeard2001 | but it would be nice if it gets another colour when load gets too high |
| 02:41.37 | enouf | you need a script; if [ -x ... |
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| 02:42.00 | blackbeard2001 | hmmm |
| 02:42.21 | blackbeard2001 | it couldnt be done in that hardstatus-line? |
| 02:42.24 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm trying to enable rotation of the display and I've been trying adding Option "RandRRotate" "true" in various places (device / screen / monitor) in xorg.conf, but no luck yet. Anyone able to point me in the right place please? |
| 02:42.26 | enouf | you need to test/parse the output, then have a list of values from which are considered to high (a threshold - perhaps all over the threshold) |
| 02:42.40 | enouf | i don't know offhand |
| 02:42.54 | enouf | s/to high/too high/ |
| 02:42.55 | blackbeard2001 | puuuh thats too complicated |
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| 02:43.28 | blackbeard2001 | thought... screen is so mighty... maybe the have it in it allready ^^ |
| 02:43.42 | module000 | blackbeard2001: that's the idea of it...you get to add it! :P |
| 02:43.49 | module000 | (or you can just keep using...using..using...using...etc) |
| 02:43.57 | enouf | jpinx-eeepc: i recall toying with that - wasn't there 90 / 180 / 270 options or something? |
| 02:44.15 | module000 | blackbeard2001: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/screen/ |
| 02:44.17 | enouf | or .. heh .. was that imagemagick stuffs :-p |
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| 02:44.56 | jpinx-eeepc | enouf: I haven't seen that - just inverted, right and left |
| 02:45.03 | blackbeard2001 | module000: i am allready here: http://www.cims.nyu.edu/cgi-systems/info2html?(screen)Top |
| 02:45.04 | enouf | jpinx-eeepc: can you run "xrandr ..." manually and get it to work? |
| 02:45.21 | jpinx-eeepc | enouf: no - that's the problem |
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| 02:45.39 | enouf | well - maybe your driver doesn't have support for it |
| 02:45.40 | module000 | blackbeard2001: oh, i was pointing you add the project page. where you add the functionality you are talking about to the source tree. |
| 02:45.51 | jpinx-eeepc | enouf http://pastebin.com/d2f09f5c5 |
| 02:45.52 | blackbeard2001 | lol. ok ^^ |
| 02:46.36 | blackbeard2001 | no really i am several hour on that two lines now.. i dont think i begin to script now for just a colour ^^ |
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| 02:48.24 | blackbeard2001 | it shows mi now the windows... blinks when something is happening... shows, when apt-updates are needed, load, download-kB/s, time/date, whoami and hostname... now its enough ^^ |
| 02:48.31 | nsadmin | blackbeard2001: if you do decide to begin to script, start with simple things, start with things you already understand |
| 02:48.32 | at0m|c | blackbeard2001: #screen for specific screen hacks |
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| 02:49.44 | nsadmin | and then learn to script, one small, easy, but new, piece at a time |
| 02:50.19 | blackbeard2001 | yea. would like to... but i have ony 30 hours a day |
| 02:50.33 | nsadmin | your time is your decision. |
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| 02:51.07 | enouf | or your parole officer's :-P |
| 02:51.25 | jonesy_ | Hi all, I'm using dhcpd updating bind9 with ddns updates. Does anyone know how to set the ddns-hostname to the mac-address of the client? |
| 02:51.29 | jonesy_ | I got close with ddns-hostname = binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "-",substring (hardware, 1, 6)); and it works, but I'd like each octet to be padded out to two characters, like how most people write mac-addresses |
| 02:51.33 | jonesy_ | the records at the moment look like this: 0-16-35-60-2d-6.my.domain and I'd like it to read 00-16-35-60-2d-06.my.domain |
| 02:51.36 | jonesy_ | any ideas? |
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| 02:53.17 | nsadmin | you'd have to use shell commands to make that happen |
| 02:53.46 | jpinx-eeepc | did you see the pastebin enouf ? |
| 02:53.49 | nsadmin | maybe binary-to-ascii will do it |
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| 02:54.20 | enouf | jpinx-eeepc: no .. should i? |
| 02:54.51 | at0m|c | nsadmin: "jonesy_: I got close with ddns-hostname = binary-to-ascii " :> |
| 02:55.06 | jpinx-eeepc | to see the error I get from doing xrandr at the cl |
| 02:55.07 | enouf | jpinx-eeepc: did you find out if your driver supports rotation? |
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| 02:55.47 | jpinx-eeepc | I'm on an old laptop (toshiba t8000) so maybe not - but I have not found a definitive answer |
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| 02:56.34 | abrotman | just running `xrandr` will tell you |
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| 02:57.08 | stuNNed | how do i install more languages for stardict and whatnot? |
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| 02:57.54 | stuNNed | know how Ubuntu has really good language support? is there a way to have that in Debian as well? |
| 02:58.00 | enouf | xdpyinfo might also .. in some convoluted way |
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| 02:58.24 | enouf | !l18 |
| 02:58.30 | enouf | !l10 |
| 02:58.35 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: xrandr gives me the info - but doesn't mention options |
| 02:58.41 | enouf | nm ... sigh |
| 02:58.48 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: paste it in the pastebin |
| 02:58.52 | nsadmin | at0m|c: yes, I'm saying maybe it takes optional parameters that will do what he wants |
| 02:58.56 | jpinx-eeepc | k |
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| 02:59.16 | abrotman | LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 304mm x 228mm |
| 02:59.19 | abrotman | like that's mine |
| 02:59.21 | jaz_pa-bop | sorry i have some trouble with xchat :P |
| 02:59.53 | enouf | wonders why it can't just say "Supports: Portrait Landscape" :-p |
| 02:59.53 | jonesy_ | nsadmin: sorry that line didn't paste properly |
| 02:59.56 | jonesy_ | binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "-",substring (hardware, 1, 6)); |
| 03:00.08 | jonesy_ | that's what I used to get the result above |
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| 03:00.34 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/d5943b9c7 |
| 03:01.05 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: your card seems to do nothing special |
| 03:01.08 | jpinx-eeepc | looks like not - from your examle |
| 03:01.25 | jpinx-eeepc | ho hum - thanks anyway;) |
| 03:02.17 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: afaict anyways .. might want to verify in #xorg |
| 03:02.45 | jpinx-eeepc | it looks clear enough that your's shows the option and mine doesn't |
| 03:03.02 | jpinx-eeepc | tbh I didn't expect it to work, but it was worth the explore |
| 03:03.22 | jpinx-eeepc | I'll ask them in #xorg too |
| 03:03.22 | Trey__ | jpinx-eeepc, what are you trying to get to work? |
| 03:04.04 | mns_ | Is there a way to change the font size / font set being used on the actual linux console ? I'm not sure what it is, but it is a little bigger then I would like it to be .. |
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| 03:05.30 | jonesy_ | mns_: you need to pass a paramter to the kernel on boot |
| 03:05.35 | enouf | x11-xserver-utils replaces xrandr? wtf? |
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| 03:06.09 | enouf | mns_: checkout /etc/console*/* and perhaps all the various console-* pkgs |
| 03:06.35 | jonesy_ | mns_: http://shrimpworks.za.net/2005/01/31/change-your-console-resolution-and-colour-depth/ |
| 03:06.48 | enouf | # dpkg-reconfigure console[tab][tab] shows; |
| 03:06.56 | enouf | console-common consolekit console-terminus |
| 03:06.57 | enouf | console-data console-setup console-tools |
| 03:07.10 | enouf | and also try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config |
| 03:07.37 | enouf | mns_: oh - right - i use vga=791 ;-) |
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| 03:07.57 | mns_ | ok thanks jonesy_ and enouf |
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| 03:08.03 | DeFender1031 | where does the mediawiki package install to? |
| 03:08.18 | enouf | mns_: on the kernel line in menu.lst to enable Vesafb so resolution is 1024x768 |
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| 03:09.40 | mns_ | aha !! great thanks. |
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| 03:10.35 | enouf | mns_: which "revelation" inspired that aha! ;-) |
| 03:10.36 | enouf | ? |
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| 03:11.06 | enouf | DeFender1031: dpkg -L <pkgname> |
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| 03:11.36 | enouf | DeFender1031: dpkg -L <pkgname> | less if many files are installed - or grep bin |
| 03:12.03 | DeFender1031 | enouf, okay, let me ask this a different way. how do i ACCESS mediawiki? going to http://localhost/mediawiki isn't doing it |
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| 03:12.14 | enouf | oh .. no idea |
| 03:12.42 | blade | hi all, its possible with KnetworkManager to configure a Wireless Connetion with Static ip and not DHCP ? |
| 03:12.46 | DeFender1031 | and i see nothing in /var/www indicating that mediawiki is there |
| 03:12.47 | mns_ | enouf: your menu.lst revelation |
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| 03:14.05 | enouf | mns_: ;-) |
| 03:14.38 | enouf | mns_: cat /proc/cmdline shows; |
| 03:14.39 | enouf | root=/dev/hdc1 ro vga=791 acpi=force lapic |
| 03:15.12 | enouf | mns_: it's also found in dmesg output (and /var/log/dmesg) |
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| 03:16.03 | enouf | mns_: the former being the live kernel's ring buffer, the latter being a static file saved at boot time |
| 03:16.22 | mns_ | enouf: what does the acpi=force lapic do ? |
| 03:16.39 | enouf | DeFender1031: sounds like you need to refreshen your apache2 skills |
| 03:16.44 | streuner | !seen gravity |
| 03:16.44 | dpkg | gravity is currently on #debian-ops #debian, last said: 'kop: Unless you care about the config files they've left behind, I wouldn't worry about it'. |
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| 03:16.53 | enouf | DeFender1031: oh - perhaps /usr/share/doc/mediawiki |
| 03:17.13 | enouf | DeFender1031: and /usr/share/mediawiki/* will have info |
| 03:17.43 | enouf | DeFender1031: same for all pkgs, and info - supplemental to man pages |
| 03:18.21 | enouf | man a2enmod ; see /etc/apache2/site* |
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| 03:18.31 | maximi89 | hey hi! |
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| 03:18.51 | maximi89 | who have problemas with Firefox (iceweasel) when open Gmail? |
| 03:19.06 | enouf | what problems? |
| 03:19.07 | maximi89 | i mean some times Gmail use 100% of my CPU |
| 03:19.11 | enouf | heh |
| 03:19.13 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: what's the problem? |
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| 03:19.37 | maximi89 | because Gmail use all CPU and i can't do nothing some times... |
| 03:19.38 | enouf | the only thing i did was enable https for gmail .. but i don't use FF/ice |
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| 03:19.51 | maximi89 | i have enable https |
| 03:19.55 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: depends on your cpu - but you can use gmail in plain html if you're short on resources like me |
| 03:20.12 | enouf | maximi89: tried yahoo.com ? for me, gmail is much lighter, but for others, it seems yahoo is |
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| 03:20.41 | enouf | maximi89: are you using Debian's iceweasel? |
| 03:20.43 | maximi89 | the problem it's gmail don't use all CPU, right now i'm with gmail opened, and that are not using 100% |
| 03:20.46 | maximi89 | yes |
| 03:20.52 | maximi89 | enouf: yes, |
| 03:20.55 | jpinx-eeepc | enouf: gmail have an option for plian html whis lighter than anything |
| 03:21.04 | maximi89 | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; es-ES; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042807 Iceweasel/3.0.9 (Debian-3.0.9-1) |
| 03:21.12 | enouf | maximi89: ok - i suggest you try disabling most things related to Java* and SWF |
| 03:21.26 | maximi89 | i have flashblock and quickjava |
| 03:21.31 | enouf | jpinx-eeepc: i use plain text - no html |
| 03:21.42 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: did you run top to see what's eating your cpu? |
| 03:21.46 | maximi89 | but, only i read an article about disable java |
| 03:21.48 | maximi89 | yes |
| 03:21.51 | maximi89 | icweasel |
| 03:22.00 | enouf | maximi89: about:config search for java |
| 03:22.12 | enouf | maximi89: try disabling anything ipv6 related |
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| 03:22.22 | enouf | maximi89: is it Only in gmail? |
| 03:22.24 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: close all other tabs in iceweasel and refresh gmail |
| 03:22.29 | maximi89 | now iceweasel are using minus than 10% |
| 03:22.33 | maximi89 | yes |
| 03:22.34 | maximi89 | only gmail |
| 03:22.37 | enouf | maximi89: flush your caches? |
| 03:22.40 | maximi89 | closing gmail all cpu restore |
| 03:22.48 | enouf | hrm... |
| 03:22.48 | maximi89 | yes, i do |
| 03:23.04 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: are you using gmail standard or gmail plain html? |
| 03:23.06 | maximi89 | a console for java?... something for debug? |
| 03:23.07 | enouf | i can't offer any more |
| 03:23.11 | maximi89 | standard gmail |
| 03:23.24 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: what cpu do you have? |
| 03:23.24 | enouf | maximi89: many browsers have options for that , yes |
| 03:23.36 | DeFender1031 | enouf, apparently i had to uncomment an alias in one of the apache confs that the package installs, but has commented by default for no reason |
| 03:23.44 | mns_ | be back ... need to reboot. |
| 03:23.46 | DeFender1031 | thanks for the help |
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| 03:23.55 | maximi89 | jpinx-eeepc: i have AMD |
| 03:24.10 | enouf | DeFender1031: well, "for no reason" seems harsh, or quick ... perhaps file a wishlist bug? |
| 03:24.15 | maximi89 | jpinx-eeepc: model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ |
| 03:24.18 | Doonz | hey guys did something pretty stupid. I only wanted to install debian as a headless server. I apparently selected desktop environment |
| 03:24.20 | enouf | maximi89: which AMD? |
| 03:24.22 | enouf | :-p |
| 03:24.25 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: if you are on an older machine - run gmail as plain html - the option is at the bottom of the page |
| 03:24.28 | Doonz | is there a way i can remove all that jazz easily? |
| 03:24.29 | maximi89 | Mem: 1035500 954828 80672 |
| 03:24.36 | enouf | oh |
| 03:24.49 | enouf | that's fine - i have one of those as well s030 |
| 03:24.54 | maximi89 | only some times gmails use all CPU |
| 03:24.56 | enouf | er s939 |
| 03:25.09 | maximi89 | but closing it the CPU restore to work normaly.... |
| 03:25.10 | enouf | but it's not even hooked up :-p |
| 03:25.16 | enouf | i use a p2 :-p |
| 03:25.19 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: you're not listening - use the plain html option |
| 03:25.21 | maximi89 | p2? |
| 03:25.27 | enouf | pentium II |
| 03:25.33 | maximi89 | ah! ok |
| 03:25.39 | enouf | someone needs to keep an eye on BLOATWAREZ ;-) |
| 03:25.40 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: not easily |
| 03:25.52 | Doonz | nothing like apt-get remove gnome |
| 03:25.54 | maximi89 | i going try that when the problem come again... |
| 03:25.55 | Doonz | :) |
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| 03:26.07 | enouf | Doonz: no DE == win |
| 03:26.10 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: you can removew gnome, but that's not all |
| 03:26.30 | gd__ | hello? how to disable the "ctrl+alt+backspace" ? |
| 03:26.40 | Doonz | crap i just wanted ssh access |
| 03:26.42 | Doonz | :( |
| 03:26.43 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: the problem will come every time you refresh gmail |
| 03:26.48 | enouf | shame some fool managed to name an OS after a piece of glass |
| 03:27.31 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: you're better to start the install again and pay attention this time ;) |
| 03:27.39 | maximi89 | jpinx-eeepc: but not every times use all CPU... |
| 03:27.49 | maximi89 | only some times... |
| 03:28.00 | Doonz | jpinx-eeepc: yeah |
| 03:28.06 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: I know - because the scripts are not always refreshed |
| 03:28.09 | Doonz | do i only need cd1 for a minimal install |
| 03:28.25 | maximi89 | ok ok, so that's a bug with gmail site ? |
| 03:28.32 | enouf | now .. to all you physicists .. ok, so glass can be considered almost as plasma (4th state) .. but what happens eventually to the house built of 30k whiskey bottles? |
| 03:28.37 | maximi89 | may be reporting it they can repair |
| 03:28.44 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: on a netinstall just deselect everything and then do it yourself |
| 03:29.04 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: no - that's how it's meant to work |
| 03:29.04 | Doonz | ok thanx |
| 03:29.07 | Doonz | cries |
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| 03:29.24 | jpinx-eeepc | !cookie Doonz |
| 03:29.26 | dpkg | pulls out the cookie jar and finds ... |
| 03:29.30 | maximi89 | enouf: how i can send a message directly to a guy with commands? /msg say? /say enouf hi? |
| 03:29.36 | Doonz | Yay |
| 03:29.42 | maximi89 | thanks eeepc |
| 03:29.44 | enouf | maximi89: better ask for perm first |
| 03:29.59 | maximi89 | uhmm /help |
| 03:30.05 | enouf | maximi89: usually /msg nick <text> |
| 03:30.10 | maximi89 | thanks |
| 03:30.13 | jpinx-eeepc | maximi89: keep it in here - pm's are not helpful |
| 03:30.27 | Rusty1 | Doonz: is it that you dont have disk space for the DM or you just dont need it? |
| 03:30.32 | maximi89 | i know thanks! :P |
| 03:30.34 | enouf | maximi89: most do not like unsolicited pms |
| 03:30.34 | jpinx-eeepc | we all learn from others' mistakes ;) |
| 03:30.55 | Doonz | Rusty1: i will only be hosting a small webserver |
| 03:30.57 | DeFender1031 | enouf, it was a joke, it actually makes perfect sense to be commented out by default |
| 03:31.19 | Doonz | so i dont want it bloated for no reason. if i wanted that i woulda stuck with windows |
| 03:31.22 | Doonz | :) |
| 03:32.10 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: you'rebasics only - it'll be less clutter and crap on your server better with the |
| 03:32.30 | jpinx-eeepc | Ooops -- fangled typing |
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| 03:32.47 | jpinx-eeepc | dunno wtf happened there |
| 03:32.57 | enouf | DeFender1031: sometimes defaults are not apropos .. that's why the suggestion |
| 03:33.50 | enouf | Doonz: debian can be very minimal, but perhaps you just want some livecd |
| 03:34.25 | jonesy_ | in case anyone's intereseted this is what worked for me [WARNING - UGLINESS AHEAD] |
| 03:34.28 | jonesy_ | ddns-hostname = concat (suffix (concat ("0", binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "",substring(hardware, 1, 1))),2),"-",suffix (concat ("0", binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "",substring(hardware, 2, 1))),2),"-",suffix (concat ("0", binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "",substring(hardware, 3, 1))),2),"-",suffix (concat ("0", binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "",substring(hardware, 4, 1))),2),"-",suffix (concat ("0", binary-to-ascii (16, 8, "",substring(hardware, 5, 1))),2),"-",su |
| 03:34.31 | jmd | Why does the locale package build the locales at install time? |
| 03:34.47 | enouf | Doonz: grml.org comes to mind, as does debian-live, debirf, knoppix (in text mode), slax, gentoo's version, etc |
| 03:34.50 | DeFender1031 | enouf, exactly |
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| 03:36.00 | Doonz | enouf im a noobie with linux and i found a very detailed howto im following for my needs |
| 03:36.50 | enouf | Doonz: well .. that's awesome - please only ask for help here if you are actually using debian, not one of it's many variants, thanks |
| 03:37.00 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: as a recenlty ex-n00b I can tell you that you're doing it right |
| 03:37.03 | jmd | Doonz, Evidently, you're also a newbie with spelling, punctuation and grammar. |
| 03:37.31 | enouf | it's n00b! |
| 03:37.35 | enouf | :-p |
| 03:37.39 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: ignore the banter here - do the minimal install and your life in the future will be a breeze |
| 03:37.53 | maximi89 | guys, what about the bluetooth devices, i have a dongle and still don't work... some body have any information about this? |
| 03:38.04 | enouf | Doonz: btw, the pkgs for ssh are called openssh-* |
| 03:38.09 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: is obviously a |\|00|3 too |
| 03:38.28 | Doonz | yeah im using the actual debian version |
| 03:38.35 | Doonz | i run ubuntu on my laptop |
| 03:38.44 | enouf | Doonz: if you use Debian, might i suggest you /msg dpkg grounding and follow through with the suggested reading materials |
| 03:38.53 | Doonz | works for me |
| 03:38.55 | jpinx-eeepc | Doonz: i run lenny on my laptop and I love it |
| 03:39.07 | enouf | Doonz: if only one doc, read the debian reference - install it |
| 03:39.58 | Doonz | ok yeah im building this as a vm so i can experiment |
| 03:40.05 | enouf | Doonz: learn aptitude, or apt-get -- and dpkg well |
| 03:40.36 | Doonz | yeah im confortable with apt-get and dpkg cause of ubuntu |
| 03:40.43 | enouf | aptitude has a few modes, CLI, and {n}curses based |
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| 03:40.50 | enouf | good |
| 03:40.58 | jaz_pa-bop | we are all n00bs in comparison to Debian :P |
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| 03:41.07 | Trey__ | is everyone against synaptic? |
| 03:41.12 | enouf | yes |
| 03:41.15 | enouf | :-) |
| 03:41.16 | jaz_pa-bop | yes |
| 03:41.22 | maximi89 | yup |
| 03:41.24 | Trey__ | why? |
| 03:41.27 | enouf | why not use Kpackage ? |
| 03:41.31 | enouf | runs |
| 03:41.42 | Trey__ | ew, i dont like kde |
| 03:41.47 | enouf | hahaha |
| 03:42.02 | Trey__ | i like apt-get but synaptic is much quickler and all |
| 03:42.06 | maximi89 | so use aptitude XD |
| 03:42.14 | Trey__ | do dep get messed up or something? |
| 03:42.15 | enouf | quicker? are you mad son? |
| 03:42.29 | jaz_pa-bop | why to use another rfont-end when aptitude is the way? |
| 03:42.34 | Trey__ | enouf, ok, i really just like being able to see a list |
| 03:42.41 | enouf | i see lists |
| 03:42.44 | jaz_pa-bop | *front-end |
| 03:42.48 | maximi89 | that i think... |
| 03:43.06 | enouf | Trey__: ever try apt-* ? |
| 03:43.29 | Trey__ | uh just apt-get,chace etc |
| 03:43.39 | Doonz | weird question for you guys. how do i access externally the ssh on my debian box if i already have a port configured for ssh on the router but it points to my ubuntu box |
| 03:43.39 | Trey__ | i used to only use apt- and dpkg |
| 03:43.53 | enouf | Trey__: do you have tab-completion enavbled in your ~/.bashrc ? |
| 03:43.58 | Trey__ | yeah |
| 03:44.03 | jaz_pa-bop | apt-get or aptitude -R for not install recomended packages :P |
| 03:44.08 | enouf | then man apt-[tab][tab] |
| 03:44.15 | enouf | and read the debian reference |
| 03:44.30 | maximi89 | some body something about bluez? btusb, no body? |
| 03:44.38 | jaz_pa-bop | reads |
| 03:44.41 | Trey__ | k, i know it does 'feel' better to use apt- .. |
| 03:44.53 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: ~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/98-recommends |
| 03:44.55 | enouf | APT::Install-Recommends "false"; |
| 03:45.07 | jaz_pa-bop | ehheeh ^^ |
| 03:45.23 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: it's in /usr/share/doc/apt/*config* |
| 03:45.51 | jaz_pa-bop | i know thanks, i live for atp, to apt :D |
| 03:46.00 | enouf | maximi89: lsusb -v might help - dmesg | less as well |
| 03:46.13 | enouf | maximi89: dpkg -l bluez* |
| 03:46.28 | enouf | maximi89: /msg dpkg what's my hardware |
| 03:46.44 | maximi89 | i mean i have installed bluez |
| 03:46.50 | enouf | is running out of bicardi ... ugh |
| 03:46.54 | maximi89 | but the error still hci0 timeout tx |
| 03:47.12 | maximi89 | there are an error opened |
| 03:47.13 | enouf | maximi89: no idea |
| 03:48.03 | maximi89 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bluetooth/2009-May/004795.html |
| 03:48.10 | maximi89 | http://www.rolfs.no/2006/08/23/kernel-hci_cmd_task-hci0-command-tx-timeout/ |
| 03:48.41 | maximi89 | i hear something about bluez 4.2 resolve some errors... |
| 03:48.58 | enouf | judd: versions bluez-utils |
| 03:48.59 | judd | enouf: bluez-utils -- etch: 3.7-1 lenny: 3.36-3 sid: 3.36-3 squeeze: 3.36-3 experimental: 4.34-0exp1 |
| 03:49.06 | maximi89 | but on debian are only 3.6 and i try with the source of bluez but i get a lot of errors |
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| 03:49.31 | enouf | watches and laughs as maximi89 floats into the unknown |
| 03:49.44 | maximi89 | ahaha |
| 03:49.54 | enouf | ;-) |
| 03:49.56 | maximi89 | judd it's the bot here? |
| 03:49.57 | judd | maximi89: Error: "it's" is not a valid command. |
| 03:49.58 | maximi89 | lol |
| 03:50.02 | jaz_pa-bop | OMG i dont have apt.conf nooooooooooooooo |
| 03:50.04 | enouf | maximi89: it's one bot |
| 03:50.11 | mns_ | I like the 1024x768 (24bit) much better then whatever I had before for the console resolution. |
| 03:50.13 | maximi89 | ehehe |
| 03:50.14 | mns_ | Thanks a lot enouf |
| 03:50.17 | nsadmin | itz UH bought |
| 03:50.29 | enouf | maximi89: yes ;-) welcome to the future ;-) |
| 03:50.35 | enouf | er mns_ |
| 03:50.48 | mns_ | lol |
| 03:51.00 | nsadmin | be sure to go forward... |
| 03:51.04 | nsadmin | into the past... |
| 03:51.27 | maximi89 | i like the apt-listbugs package |
| 03:51.31 | maximi89 | helps a lot |
| 03:51.40 | enouf | maximi89: that'd be vga=79{2,3} as opposed to vga=791 ? |
| 03:51.47 | mns_ | oh great ... now they decide to say we're about to land and have to shut this thing off ! |
| 03:52.00 | enouf | maximi89: apt-listchanges is useful to me |
| 03:52.04 | maximi89 | i don't know, but i use 791 with konsole a time ago |
| 03:52.20 | enouf | mns_: quick@! ghost the installation@! |
| 03:52.35 | mns_ | enouf: yes I'm using 792 and 795. 799 is not supported. |
| 03:52.41 | enouf | ahh |
| 03:52.43 | maximi89 | i don't understand all the english yet >.<! |
| 03:52.46 | mns_ | lol .. its going to be safe. no need to ghost. :) |
| 03:52.48 | nsadmin | mns_: better do it... you don't want their instruments skewed while you;'re on the plane... |
| 03:52.54 | mns_ | laters all. |
| 03:53.05 | enouf | mns_: call me on my cell phone NOW! ;-P |
| 03:53.56 | enouf | maximi89: references and subreferences - mostly silly - don't worry about it |
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| 03:55.04 | enouf | maximi89: 'Ghost' is a windows tool for making cloned copies - originally by <some-Corp>, then bought out by Norton or whomever |
| 03:55.06 | maximi89 | ehehe ok i go to take that tip |
| 03:55.16 | maximi89 | yeah i know that |
| 03:55.18 | maximi89 | i used |
| 03:55.21 | enouf | ... |
| 03:55.30 | enouf | then wtf don't you get? |
| 03:55.46 | maximi89 | eh? |
| 03:55.54 | enouf | < maximi89> i don't understand all the english yet >.<! |
| 03:55.59 | enouf | which? |
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| 03:56.19 | maximi89 | yeah, i don't understand so well, but now when you tell me again i understand XD |
| 03:57.09 | enouf | maximi89: i accidentally tab-completed your nick earlier when i meant to use mns -- and my post of 23:46 < enouf> er mns_ |
| 03:57.14 | enouf | corrected that |
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| 03:58.04 | jmd | Why is it that lenny can't view you-tube videos, wheras etch did? |
| 03:58.18 | maximi89 | (23:52:45) mns_: lol .. its going to be safe. no need to ghost. :) |
| 03:58.19 | enouf | jmd: nothing to do with Releases |
| 03:58.23 | maximi89 | that i don't understand XD |
| 03:58.36 | maximi89 | the words ok, but the meaning nothing |
| 03:58.45 | enouf | maximi89: the guy is landing - he's on an airplane |
| 03:58.47 | maximi89 | jmd: about:plugins |
| 03:58.48 | enouf | :-P |
| 03:59.02 | maximi89 | o.O |
| 03:59.08 | stew | jmd: using gnash? or which flash viewer? |
| 03:59.09 | enouf | s/guy/person/ |
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| 03:59.17 | wekt | jmd: with only default packages installed? youtube needs Adobe/Real Networks/Macromedia Flash. |
| 03:59.34 | jmd | wekt, It used to work with gnash |
| 03:59.50 | jmd | maximi89, What about them. |
| 03:59.53 | maximi89 | jmd: what browser? |
| 04:00.01 | stew | jmd: then because "youtube changed" ; etch can't view youtube anymore |
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| 04:00.16 | jaz_pa-bop | gnash is flash v9 |
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| 04:00.25 | wekt | maybe youtube changed. |
| 04:00.31 | nsadmin | stew: when did that happen? |
| 04:00.47 | maximi89 | i'm using flash player 10 r22 |
| 04:00.49 | nsadmin | I watched a youtube today or yesterday on this etch |
| 04:00.49 | jaz_pa-bop | mmmm yes, i have to use macromedia pakage |
| 04:01.21 | enouf | !youtube script |
| 04:01.21 | dpkg | methinks youtube script is see http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=MPlayer_youtube_script so you can instantly watch youtube videos using mplayer No need for big BLOATED browsers and their Plugins and Extensions.. Updated (August 09 2008 - thanks amphi) added versatility and improved functionality. An alternative is the 'youtube-dl' package (in Sid now only it seems - (and some etch-m68k pkgs)), another option is "clive". |
| 04:01.22 | jmd | maximi89, iceweasel |
| 04:01.31 | stew | nsadmin: with 0.8.2? |
| 04:01.39 | enouf | is what i use |
| 04:01.59 | maximi89 | i don't know nothing about gnash really... i try to use it some times but nothing... |
| 04:02.07 | nsadmin | Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115 |
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| 04:02.44 | nsadmin | oh you mean with the free-software player |
| 04:03.10 | jaz_pa-bop | none |
| 04:03.21 | jaz_pa-bop | ho yes sorry |
| 04:03.58 | maximi89 | jmd: but only happen that with youtube true? |
| 04:04.05 | jaz_pa-bop | gnash is Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115 , but macromedia released version 10 ... |
| 04:04.06 | maximi89 | what about googlevideos? |
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| 04:04.33 | maximi89 | judd: versions bluetooth |
| 04:04.34 | judd | maximi89: bluetooth -- etch: 3.7-1 sid: 3.36-2 lenny: 3.36-3 sid: 3.36-3 squeeze: 3.36-3 experimental: 4.34-0exp1 |
| 04:05.00 | jaz_pa-bop | u have to read what version of streamer they have, probably all sites now have version 10 |
| 04:05.04 | maximi89 | enouf: experimental... o.O never i heard about that XD |
| 04:05.15 | maximi89 | i'm on unstable |
| 04:05.46 | enouf | then you already know what to do :-p |
| 04:06.06 | maximi89 | yeah, but what about the problems with experimental :P |
| 04:06.30 | enouf | "problems" are many times self-inflicted wounds |
| 04:06.34 | enouf | ;-) |
| 04:07.19 | enouf | maximi89: uname -r |
| 04:07.42 | maximi89 | enouf: 2.6.29-2-686 |
| 04:07.51 | enouf | ok |
| 04:08.10 | maximi89 | what about you? |
| 04:08.23 | enouf | 2.6.28-1-686 |
| 04:08.32 | enouf | state of flux |
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| 04:08.59 | jmd | maximi89, Maybe it happens on others too, but You-tube is the only one I've noticed. |
| 04:09.07 | enouf | whips out his capacitors |
| 04:09.50 | maximi89 | enouf: experimental replace the old repository, i mean change only sid for experimental or i need to add other line for experimental and leave the old there |
| 04:09.51 | maximi89 | ? |
| 04:09.53 | enouf | notices all that marvel at the full 1.21 jiggawatts |
| 04:10.11 | maximi89 | jmd: works good with googlevideos.com¿? |
| 04:10.21 | enouf | maximi89: then you already know what to do :-p |
| 04:10.25 | maximi89 | and nakedfunny? |
| 04:10.44 | maximi89 | leave both deb lines? |
| 04:11.15 | enouf | maximi89: /msg dpkg pinning -- be prepared for some pain |
| 04:11.26 | maximi89 | because i recharge repository only with line experimental but a lot of packages disappear the logo of debian on synaptic... |
| 04:11.40 | enouf | bad |
| 04:11.41 | maximi89 | because are not on this repository |
| 04:11.50 | enouf | exp is NOT a release |
| 04:12.07 | jmd | maximi89, that url is non existent. |
| 04:12.15 | enouf | nor does it contain all pkgs in other releases - even sid will never be "released" |
| 04:12.16 | maximi89 | sorry |
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| 04:12.56 | enouf | !releases |
| 04:13.01 | maximi89 | jmd: http://video.google.com/ |
| 04:13.04 | jaz_pa-bop | omg dpkg seems not to run ... |
| 04:13.15 | enouf | dpkg: where are you? |
| 04:13.20 | enouf | hrm ... |
| 04:13.25 | maximi89 | dpkg are lost! |
| 04:13.28 | enouf | ~releases |
| 04:13.28 | apt | releases are Look at http://www.debian.org/releases/ ! There is a website for a reason! |
| 04:13.32 | maximi89 | apt? |
| 04:13.33 | maximi89 | XD |
| 04:13.37 | jaz_pa-bop | lol |
| 04:13.41 | enouf | backup bot :-p |
| 04:13.41 | jaz_pa-bop | dpkg, |
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| 04:13.47 | maximi89 | apt: where are you? |
| 04:13.48 | apt | I am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W |
| 04:13.53 | maximi89 | ahahaha |
| 04:13.54 | enouf | haha |
| 04:14.03 | enouf | apt: where were you? |
| 04:14.04 | apt | I was getting some action with the botchicks! WooYEAH! I got me some NOOKIE! |
| 04:14.07 | enouf | ;-) |
| 04:14.21 | maximi89 | apt: a secure computer is? |
| 04:14.28 | maximi89 | >.<! |
| 04:14.39 | enouf | maximi89: please - ... use /msg |
| 04:15.06 | jaz_pa-bop | why dpkgbot is ... lost? |
| 04:15.11 | jmd | maximi89, No. Doesn't work with those either. |
| 04:15.14 | enouf | maximi89: it's just ... we can trigger a bot stampede from so many logged in |
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| 04:15.27 | dpkg | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 04:15.27 | dpkg | I am located at Latitude: 33.9695129 Longitude: -117.3275986 |
| 04:15.27 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, maximi89 |
| 04:15.27 | dpkg | jaz_pa-bop: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 04:15.29 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: just resting |
| 04:15.45 | enouf | dpkg: wb |
| 04:15.45 | dpkg | thanks, enouf. It's good to be back. |
| 04:15.54 | jaz_pa-bop | hoohohho sorry guyz i have LAG!! |
| 04:15.58 | jaz_pa-bop | lol |
| 04:16.11 | jmd | At least, not all of them. |
| 04:16.15 | jaz_pa-bop | now is responding me :P |
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| 04:17.03 | jaz_pa-bop | what is difference beetwen atpbot and dpkgbot? |
| 04:17.28 | enouf | the former is older and different and not as updated - IINM |
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| 04:17.59 | enouf | could be mistaken |
| 04:18.17 | jaz_pa-bop | the former? what? :O |
| 04:18.20 | maximi89 | apt: where are you? |
| 04:18.21 | apt | I am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W |
| 04:18.25 | maximi89 | dpkg: where are you? |
| 04:18.25 | dpkg | I am located at Latitude: 33.9695129 Longitude: -117.3275986 |
| 04:18.29 | maximi89 | ah? |
| 04:18.44 | enouf | also, dpkgbot started as an infobot, turned into a blootbot, and is now again an infobot - IINN |
| 04:19.11 | jaz_pa-bop | blootbot? what is? |
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| 04:19.21 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: former and latter are used to represent A and B -- A == former |
| 04:19.31 | maximi89 | apt: karma enouf |
| 04:19.31 | apt | enouf has neutral karma |
| 04:19.35 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: as neither / nor and either / or |
| 04:19.37 | maximi89 | apt: karma maximi89 |
| 04:19.37 | apt | maximi89 has neutral karma |
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| 04:19.52 | enouf | !blootbot |
| 04:19.53 | dpkg | blootbot is a severely mutiliated infobot, by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Blootbot debs are now in debian. You may not want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl. The latest svn has pgsql support. NOTE: blootbot development has officially stopped, and the project has been renamed back to infobot. Ask me about <infobot>. |
| 04:20.18 | jaz_pa-bop | i dont understand .. former? latter? lol dunno :P |
| 04:20.37 | maximi89 | apt: infobot |
| 04:20.37 | apt | from memory, infobot is [infobot], or infobot, or likes abuse |
| 04:20.46 | jaz_pa-bop | ahhaahha |
| 04:20.52 | maximi89 | apt: kill you please |
| 04:20.53 | apt | ACTION shoots a charged fluxphoton gun at you please |
| 04:21.04 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: former and latter are used to represent A and B -- A == former , B == latter ergo; aptbot (A) == former, dpkgbot(B) == latter |
| 04:21.22 | enouf | 00:12 < jaz_pa-bop> what is difference beetwen atpbot and dpkgbot? |
| 04:21.48 | jaz_pa-bop | :O omg! and why this complication? |
| 04:21.55 | jaz_pa-bop | yes enouf |
| 04:21.55 | enouf | !nuke jaz_pa-bop |
| 04:21.55 | dpkg | fires an 80 megaton thermonuclear weapon at jaz_pa-bop |
| 04:22.11 | jaz_pa-bop | what is the diff? |
| 04:22.24 | enouf | read your scrollback |
| 04:22.39 | maximi89 | apt: you have brothers? |
| 04:22.44 | maximi89 | buuu |
| 04:22.45 | maximi89 | XD |
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| 04:22.52 | maximi89 | apt: dpkg |
| 04:22.52 | apt | rumour has it, dpkg is a bot, or the low-level command to install and manipulate Debian package files (.debs). |
| 04:23.02 | enouf | wanders off |
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| 04:23.52 | jpinx-eeepc | !beer enouf |
| 04:23.52 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Spaten Optimator for enouf |
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| 04:24.31 | enouf | swaggers back to chug the mug .. then wanders off again |
| 04:25.09 | jaz_pa-bop | dpkg is the infobot and atp is the blootbot? enouf ?? |
| 04:25.10 | dpkg | jaz_pa-bop: are you using Windows? |
| 04:26.05 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell jaz_pa-bop about message the bot |
| 04:26.38 | jaz_pa-bop | i know ho to msg a bot! |
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| 04:26.42 | jaz_pa-bop | thanks |
| 04:27.23 | jpinx-eeepc | it would appear otherwise ;) |
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| 04:27.28 | jaz_pa-bop | im not spamming whit bots as someone here in the chan! |
| 04:27.38 | jaz_pa-bop | i use query whit bot |
| 04:27.55 | jaz_pa-bop | ever |
| 04:28.30 | jaz_pa-bop | nervously rolling tobacco |
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| 04:29.44 | maximi89 | enouf: you have a portatil computer? |
| 04:31.04 | creature_ | i want to upgrade my system hard disk to new one |
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| 04:31.36 | creature_ | how should i copy all the shit |
| 04:31.42 | enouf | dd |
| 04:32.19 | enouf | you like your orig partition layout? |
| 04:32.27 | creature_ | naw i want a bigger partition |
| 04:32.31 | creature_ | its a bigger disk |
| 04:32.38 | enouf | then rsync |
| 04:32.53 | creature_ | ill just rsync / to the new disk? |
| 04:32.54 | enouf | boot a livecd, or mount / ro in single |
| 04:33.13 | creature_ | well i can't just go booting on livecd with my server for hours |
| 04:33.25 | enouf | you'll need to reinstall your boot loader too |
| 04:33.34 | enouf | you have no server |
| 04:33.48 | enouf | system HDD != server |
| 04:33.51 | jaz_pa-bop | ... can u to create and mount a new partition ... instead to tranfer entire filesystems ... no? |
| 04:34.07 | maximi89 | enouf: i find them XD#bluez |
| 04:34.09 | creature_ | its gotta be done fast so there is not alot of downtime |
| 04:34.22 | enouf | maximi89: congrats |
| 04:34.28 | creature_ | why can't i rsync while running the system? |
| 04:35.04 | jaz_pa-bop | :O |
| 04:35.10 | enouf | another option is tar |
| 04:35.14 | enouf | and the --one-filesystem option |
| 04:35.51 | jaz_pa-bop | i vote to create and mount new partitions .. simply |
| 04:36.12 | creature_ | yea but how do i transfer the shit there? |
| 04:36.21 | enouf | do NOT try to cp over a live filesystem |
| 04:36.35 | creature_ | why not? |
| 04:36.37 | jaz_pa-bop | dd tar cat ... |
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| 04:36.46 | enouf | go ahead .. lmao |
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| 04:36.53 | creature_ | no i asked why not |
| 04:37.07 | enouf | because it's live |
| 04:37.22 | creature_ | rsync will get what it gets |
| 04:37.28 | creature_ | i could do another rsync with a live cd |
| 04:37.37 | creature_ | that way most of the shit would already be there |
| 04:37.50 | jaz_pa-bop | rsync works as dd or as cp? |
| 04:37.55 | creature_ | as cp |
| 04:38.00 | jaz_pa-bop | lol |
| 04:38.06 | creature_ | but it can do like incremental cp |
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| 04:38.18 | jaz_pa-bop | ... why? |
| 04:38.21 | enouf | jaz_pa-bop: stop - dd is block/bit based |
| 04:38.31 | enouf | the others are FS level copying |
| 04:38.40 | jaz_pa-bop | right |
| 04:39.11 | jaz_pa-bop | creature_, doesnt want a fs lev copy but a dump |
| 04:39.21 | maximi89 | that irc channels are death ahaha |
| 04:39.29 | maximi89 | no body say "hi" |
| 04:39.36 | creature_ | im sure i could take a dd dump and dump it to the new HD |
| 04:39.37 | maximi89 | no body talk... |
| 04:39.40 | creature_ | then resize the partition |
| 04:40.00 | enouf | not with NTFS |
| 04:40.18 | creature_ | we are talking about ext3 |
| 04:40.22 | enouf | you should just take an LVM snapshot |
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| 04:40.36 | enouf | how would we know? |
| 04:40.36 | jaz_pa-bop | maximi89, hi ,,. what is your problem? |
| 04:41.13 | maximi89 | jaz_pa-bop: about bluetooth ID 1131:1004 Integrated System Solution Corp. Bluetooth Device "hci_cmd_task: hci0 command tx timeout" |
| 04:41.14 | maximi89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.22 | enouf | our presumptions preclude us |
| 04:41.43 | jaz_pa-bop | ask lspci |
| 04:41.52 | maximi89 | i try to get help from #bluez and #bluez-users but no body talk nothing.... |
| 04:42.02 | maximi89 | ok i going to try thanks! |
| 04:42.05 | creature_ | guess ill do the dd |
| 04:42.07 | enouf | judd: pciid 1131:1004 |
| 04:42.09 | judd | enouf: [1131:1004] is 'Unknown device' from 'Philips Semiconductors' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1131:1004 |
| 04:42.11 | jaz_pa-bop | her is debian chan |
| 04:42.31 | enouf | judd: usbid 1131:1004 |
| 04:42.31 | jaz_pa-bop | here* |
| 04:42.32 | judd | enouf: Error: "usbid" is not a valid command. |
| 04:42.37 | enouf | oh well |
| 04:42.56 | maximi89 | uhmm T.T |
| 04:43.17 | jaz_pa-bop | ask enouf .. im a n00b in standby :P |
| 04:43.19 | maximi89 | i have the module btusb 0.4 |
| 04:43.19 | enouf | maximi89: make sure you get a full refund |
| 04:43.45 | maximi89 | retribution? |
| 04:44.11 | maximi89 | oh! ok i understand |
| 04:44.19 | maximi89 | but i like errors >.<! |
| 04:44.34 | maximi89 | ahaha and this devices works if i umount /proc/bus |
| 04:45.22 | streamed | omg |
| 04:45.29 | ajavid | enouf, hi |
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| 04:47.04 | streamed | thinks about we all need a good coffe or a good chamomile |
| 04:48.34 | streamed | guyz a n00b retoric (?) question: can i create my own apt.conf is doesnt exist? |
| 04:48.51 | streamed | how to load this? |
| 04:49.19 | streamed | guyz a n00b retoric (?) question: can i create my own apt.conf IF doesnt exist? |
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| 04:55.04 | Doonz | guys im having trouble restarting my sshd |
| 04:55.14 | Doonz | i type /etc/init.d/sshd restart |
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| 04:55.36 | Doonz | but it cant find it |
| 04:55.44 | Doonz | where do i find this service to restart it |
| 04:56.00 | streamed | guyz : can i create my own apt.conf IF doesnt exist? |
| 04:58.14 | streamed | Doonz, what? u have sshd but not init script? |
| 04:58.58 | Doonz | apparently |
| 04:59.07 | streamed | u need to be root ... |
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| 04:59.23 | Doonz | when i do whoami it says root |
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| 04:59.38 | streuner | amset:/etc/init.d# ls -l ssh* |
| 04:59.38 | streuner | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3710 25. Jul 2008 ssh |
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| 05:00.58 | ajavid | judd versions kdebase |
| 05:00.59 | judd | ajavid: kdebase -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1 etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2 etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1 sid: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-5 lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 sid: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 squeeze: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-2 experimental: 4:4.2.0-1 sid: 4:4.2.2-1 |
| 05:01.26 | Doonz | streamed: i am |
| 05:01.37 | Doonz | streuner: |
| 05:01.44 | Doonz | /etc/init.d/sshd restart <-- this command dont work |
| 05:01.49 | Doonz | sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path |
| 05:01.52 | streuner | /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
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| 05:02.21 | Doonz | could not resolve hostname restart |
| 05:02.55 | streamed | ls /etc/init.d/ -l |grep ssh |
| 05:02.58 | Doonz | i can remote ssh into the server |
| 05:03.29 | Doonz | :/etc/init.d# ls /etc/init.d/ -l |grep ssh |
| 05:03.29 | Doonz | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3710 2009-01-13 17:40 ssh |
| 05:03.32 | Doonz | :/etc/init.d# ls /etc/init.d/ -l |grep ssh |
| 05:03.32 | Doonz | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3710 2009-01-13 17:40 ssh |
| 05:03.33 | nevyn | are there any issues with network manager initiating ppp connections not calling /etc/ppp/ip-up that anyone knows about? |
| 05:03.35 | Doonz | sorry |
| 05:03.47 | streamed | ssh client! |
| 05:04.07 | Doonz | wha? |
| 05:04.20 | streamed | u have the client not the demon! |
| 05:04.48 | Doonz | how do i log into the server from another machine if that server isnt running the daemon |
| 05:05.14 | Doonz | the daemon file is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. |
| 05:05.22 | nevyn | Doonz: umm that's kinda tricky |
| 05:05.29 | ``y7 | when i setup my debian to act as a firewall/router. eth0 is setup to have the external ip and eth1 is setup to have the internal ip. eth1 is my default gateway according to all of the computers behind this router, correct? |
| 05:05.40 | Doonz | well i can log into the debian box from my ubuntu box through ssh |
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| 05:05.48 | Doonz | so the debian box must have the sshd |
| 05:05.52 | nevyn | right |
| 05:06.04 | ``y7 | nevyn, right to who? |
| 05:06.08 | Doonz | i changed the standard port to something other than 22 because of other sshd on the network |
| 05:06.15 | nevyn | Doonz |
| 05:06.23 | Doonz | but now i cant seem to be able to restart the daemon to take that new port |
| 05:06.27 | nevyn | YeTr2_: yes |
| 05:06.38 | Doonz | i guess i could just reboot |
| 05:06.56 | nevyn | YeTr2_: you're right the ip address of eth1 should be the default gateway of all the systems behind your router |
| 05:07.26 | nevyn | assuming a simple network with only a single router. |
| 05:07.37 | ``y7 | nevyn, how do i get eth1 connected to the internet through eth0 then? |
| 05:07.50 | nevyn | ``y7: install ipmasq is the easy way |
| 05:08.10 | ``y7 | rgr that, ty |
| 05:08.14 | nevyn | ``y7: do manual iptables magic is that hard way |
| 05:09.16 | nevyn | ``y7: ipmasq examines the interfaces works out what's external and internal and sets up all the iptables magic |
| 05:10.55 | ``y7 | thx nevyn |
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| 05:21.30 | streamed | guyz : can i create my own apt.conf IF doesnt exist? an hint please! |
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| 05:28.33 | arnuld | I want to install Debian on my box, using netinstall CD |
| 05:28.46 | arnuld | Is testing CD quite stable ? |
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| 05:29.14 | arnuld | or usibg stable CDs is the only recommendation |
| 05:29.15 | arnuld | ? |
| 05:30.05 | streamed | for servers surely |
| 05:30.15 | arnuld | no its my home machine |
| 05:30.30 | streamed | testing is a good idea then |
| 05:30.37 | arnuld | okay |
| 05:30.58 | ajavid | ahh man |
| 05:31.01 | streamed | testing package are more 'stable' as others distro are |
| 05:31.03 | ajavid | just got svn setup under deb |
| 05:31.12 | ajavid | svn - Revision 1: / ! yaya! |
| 05:31.20 | streamed | :O |
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| 05:53.47 | lymeca | How can I restrict a user to their home directory and all sub-dirs? |
| 05:53.49 | lymeca | I don't want them to be able to cd .. at all, ever, or even know .. exists Like a chroot jail to their home directory, always... |
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| 05:56.28 | arnuld | lymeca:Interesting question, seems like you sit on a server |
| 05:56.49 | lymeca | arnuld: cryptic response? |
| 05:56.53 | arnuld | lymeca: I don't have any solutions for you though, I am just an amateur GNUbee |
| 05:56.55 | cahoot | crosspost? |
| 05:57.05 | lymeca | Yeah I have a couple servers... |
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| 05:59.37 | ottoshmidt | can debian be used for servers? |
| 05:59.59 | warthog | lymeca: would you want them to be able to run all commands in /usr/bin or is it fairly more restricted |
| 06:00.03 | warthog | ottoshmidt: yes |
| 06:00.13 | warthog | ottoshmidt: what are your needs though |
| 06:00.23 | lymeca | warthog: I just want them to be able to download files from their home dir via SFTP |
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| 06:01.20 | warthog | lymeca: then why don't you use vsftpd and have virtual users |
| 06:01.33 | lymeca | I use wzdftpd |
| 06:01.44 | lymeca | bah okay fine I'll configure my FTP server instead |
| 06:01.58 | ottoshmidt | warthog, no just, is there a separate addition for servers or one can use a Desktop one as well? |
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| 06:02.44 | warthog | ottoshmidt: what are you trying to achieve ? what will the server do, there is no specific addition for servers |
| 06:03.10 | ottoshmidt | warthog, just interested |
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| 06:04.17 | ottoshmidt | warthog, I mean, why there is ubuntu server edition if there is no need in specifications for servers |
| 06:04.30 | ottoshmidt | ? |
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| 06:06.48 | warthog | ottoshmidt: ubuntu is a different distribution based on debian with different goals, it has 2 different versions customised for each own's goal. |
| 06:06.53 | ottoshmidt | i see |
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| 06:08.03 | ham5 | punkes a little |
| 06:08.11 | ham5 | *pukes |
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| 06:10.06 | Gun_Smoke | haha. |
| 06:10.11 | warthog | hands ham5 barf bag |
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| 06:18.39 | LORDM32 | hi |
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| 06:18.52 | LORDM32 | using debian 4.0 |
| 06:19.03 | ham5 | hi im using debian 5.0.1 |
| 06:19.21 | LORDM32 | when start up i get this warning...not starting internet super server ...what does that mean? |
| 06:20.04 | ham5 | more information |
| 06:20.49 | LORDM32 | now none of the email i cant login as the debian is working with zimbra...even the admin mode i cant login aldy |
| 06:20.56 | at0m | LORDM32, tried kicking that into your favorite search engine? |
| 06:21.20 | LORDM32 | yup i tried but am really a beginner... |
| 06:21.28 | maximi89 | bye guys! |
| 06:21.33 | maximi89 | thanks for the time! |
| 06:21.37 | LORDM32 | atom : sorry |
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| 06:22.09 | LORDM32 | any help guys? |
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| 06:22.25 | ham5 | it could be so many things I give up already |
| 06:22.38 | LORDM32 | hehehhehe |
| 06:22.59 | at0m | LORDM32, that should at least tell you what's going on. then to fix that, if you encounter specific issues, throw them in the group ;) |
| 06:24.04 | LORDM32 | atom : hmmm |
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| 06:25.21 | cahoot | LORDM32: you really need more specifics - study the logs in /var/log |
| 06:25.32 | warthog | LORDM32: read about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inetd |
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| 06:30.13 | arnuld | I want to download DVD ISO images for Debian testing and the only place I got them is from the main server here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ |
| 06:30.24 | arnuld | aren't any mirrors available for them ? |
| 06:30.45 | arnuld | The mirror list http://debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#mirrors shows only stable distro |
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| 06:31.05 | arnuld | so there is ni mirrorlist for testing versions ? |
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| 06:31.56 | SNow | hi guys, how can I install mssql module on debian etch? |
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| 06:33.10 | warthog | SNow: aptitude search mssql and then aptitude install <themoduleyouwant> |
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| 06:33.46 | arnuld | warthog: why aptitude is mostly recommended, rather than apt-get ? |
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| 06:34.59 | dmoerner | arnuld, /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 06:35.08 | warthog | !tell arnuld why aptitude |
| 06:35.24 | warthog | hmmn i didn't get that right |
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| 06:36.38 | aaron__ | hey can someone in here tell me how to enable the cgi in apache so i can upload cgi scripts to my website |
| 06:36.57 | SNow | warthog: |
| 06:36.58 | SNow | :)) |
| 06:37.06 | SNow | u think i didn't try that |
| 06:37.10 | SNow | there's nothing there about mssql |
| 06:37.56 | warthog | SNow: i have no way of knowing what you tried and didn't try i am not a mind reader |
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| 06:42.03 | warthog | aaron__: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Making_Apache2_execute_CGI_scripts_globally can be a starting point |
| 06:42.03 | arnuld | I did /msg dpkg why apt-get |
| 06:42.12 | arnuld | it says: I don't know |
| 06:42.13 | arnuld | :D |
| 06:42.25 | arnuld | I did /msg dpkg why Love |
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| 06:42.37 | arnuld | I did /msg dpkg why "Make Love" |
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| 06:43.24 | warthog | arnuld: you were supposed to do /msg dpkg why aptitude not why apt-get |
| 06:43.35 | LORDM32 | ham5: its ok now after restarting |
| 06:43.38 | arnuld | warthog: I did Make Love too |
| 06:43.50 | warthog | 8-| |
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| 06:44.16 | ham5 | o |
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| 06:45.10 | LORDM32 | ham5: am just a beginner bro...sorry for the trouble |
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| 07:00.13 | apelgate | hello |
| 07:00.23 | apelgate | how can I do to update one package on debian? |
| 07:00.35 | apelgate | (without updating unnecessary stuff) |
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| 07:04.55 | streuner | apelgate: what branch of Debian? |
| 07:04.59 | kits | hi,is there any issue with mod_rewrite of apache 2.2.3 of debain 4? |
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| 07:05.32 | elenril | can latest grub in debian boot from ext4? |
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| 07:14.07 | valdyn | elenril: no |
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| 07:19.02 | omid8bimo | how can i add several line with spaces inside bash script var? |
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| 07:19.44 | valdyn | omid8bimo: MYVAR= "\n \n \n" |
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| 07:20.24 | omid8bimo | valdyn: like MYVAR="\n this is test one, \n this is test 2" ?? |
| 07:20.36 | valdyn | omid8bimo: try it |
| 07:20.43 | omid8bimo | i want to use it in select |
| 07:21.15 | valdyn | hmm, i was wrong, ops |
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| 07:21.42 | omid8bimo | yeah |
| 07:22.14 | omid8bimo | i want to know how to seperate them to a line like "this is a test" wont be considred as 4 options |
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| 07:24.01 | valdyn | omid8bimo: what are you trying to do with that variable? |
| 07:24.25 | apelgate | streuner |
| 07:24.26 | omid8bimo | i want to use them as "select" options |
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| 07:24.33 | apelgate | how do I see it? |
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| 07:24.54 | apelgate | cat /etc/lsb-release doesn't work |
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| 07:25.13 | valdyn | omid8bimo: echo -e will interpret \n as you want |
| 07:25.23 | apelgate | aha |
| 07:25.32 | gihan | hello all, i have debian server with 4 ip's ive install 4 guest os using vmware. how can i assign each ip to each guest os |
| 07:25.49 | apelgate | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 07:25.52 | apelgate | 4.0 |
| 07:26.04 | valdyn | gihan: read the vmware documentation |
| 07:26.14 | streuner | apelgate: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 07:26.58 | apelgate | ? |
| 07:27.12 | streuner | apelgate: wait, do you want to keep etch/oldstable and just upgrade only ONE package? |
| 07:27.21 | apelgate | yes |
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| 07:27.24 | streuner | hm |
| 07:27.28 | apelgate | it's on a production environment |
| 07:27.37 | streuner | make sense then |
| 07:27.41 | streuner | which package? |
| 07:27.56 | apelgate | It's best to not touch it until the software upgrade comes. |
| 07:28.02 | apelgate | streuner: htop |
| 07:28.15 | streuner | !info htop |
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| 07:28.41 | dpkg | htop: (interactive processes viewer), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.8.1+svn149-2 (sid), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 192 kB |
| 07:28.51 | streuner | shouldnt be hard |
| 07:28.52 | apelgate | aha |
| 07:29.05 | apelgate | htop 0.6.3 - (C) 2004-2006 Hisham Muhammad. |
| 07:29.08 | streuner | apelgate: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 07:29.10 | apelgate | time to update it :-P |
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| 07:29.19 | streuner | judd, versions htop |
| 07:29.21 | judd | streuner: htop -- etch: 0.6.3-1 lenny: 0.7-1 sid: 0.8.1+svn149-2 squeeze: 0.8.1+svn149-2 |
| 07:30.05 | apelgate | hmm. maybe I can wait :-P |
| 07:30.24 | streuner | judd: <simple sid backport> show HOW to update one package out of sid/unstable, but you could use any other branch of Debian... |
| 07:30.24 | judd | streuner: Error: "<simple" is not a valid command. |
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| 07:30.31 | apelgate | how can I check what dependencies it implies? |
| 07:30.52 | streuner | apelgate: <simple sid backport> show HOW to update one package out of sid/unstable, but you could use any other branch of Debian... |
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| 07:31.20 | streuner | during process it will show you which depends it needs |
| 07:31.31 | streuner | !simple sid backport |
| 07:31.31 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 07:31.44 | streuner | apt-get build-dep htop |
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| 07:32.16 | apelgate | hmm |
| 07:32.17 | apelgate | nice |
| 07:32.59 | apelgate | streuner: thank you for all your help |
| 07:33.06 | apelgate | :-) |
| 07:33.06 | streuner | good luck |
| 07:33.09 | apelgate | th |
| 07:33.10 | apelgate | x |
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| 07:33.40 | bopols | from windows and using ultravnc, i connected to a headless debian lenny computer. The gnome desktop shows up but the menubar is disabled. Keyboard and mouse is OK except at the menubar and taskbar. |
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| 07:40.55 | Supaplex | !cannon windows |
| 07:40.55 | dpkg | fires a titanium reinforced pineapple up windows |
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| 07:50.22 | arnuld | whats the name of xorg package ? |
| 07:50.23 | arnuld | aptitude instal xorg ? |
| 07:50.35 | arnuld | aptitude install xorg-server |
| 07:50.47 | bolt-work | !set up x |
| 07:50.47 | dpkg | To install X in etch or later: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
| 07:51.00 | arnuld | !set up emacs |
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| 07:51.11 | bolt-work | ... |
| 07:51.16 | bopols | :) |
| 07:51.32 | arnuld | !set up wmii |
| 07:51.40 | arnuld | >:-\ |
| 07:51.59 | arnuld | !set up window manager |
| 07:52.07 | bolt-work | arnuld: stop it |
| 07:52.14 | arnuld | dpkg says "ask me about <window manager> |
| 07:52.15 | dpkg | arnuld: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 07:52.18 | arnuld | how can Ia sk it ? |
| 07:52.36 | bolt-work | by doing /msg dpkg window manager |
| 07:52.40 | arnuld | oh.. |
| 07:52.42 | arnuld | wait |
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| 07:53.16 | bolt-work | when you're just fetching information for yourself, msg the bot |
| 07:53.30 | arnuld | I want to have the explanation (like the command "aotitude install xorg") |
| 07:53.57 | bolt-work | if you want to know what that command does, man aptitude |
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| 07:54.15 | arnuld | bolt-work: you did not get my point |
| 07:54.22 | bolt-work | you're not being very clear |
| 07:54.41 | arnuld | Like it said to install xorg fully , use "aptitude install xorg" |
| 07:55.04 | arnuld | what can I do type to bot get information to install some other packages |
| 07:55.19 | arnuld | what can I type to get information to install some other packages |
| 07:55.24 | bolt-work | to install other packages, type apt-get install <package> |
| 07:55.36 | arnuld | but how do I know the nam eof the package |
| 07:55.42 | bolt-work | search for it |
| 07:55.44 | arnuld | when I have not installed Debian yet |
| 07:55.45 | bolt-work | apt-cache search foo |
| 07:55.54 | arnuld | my HDD is empty |
| 07:56.00 | bolt-work | search packages.debian.org then |
| 07:56.04 | arnuld | oh.. |
| 07:56.16 | bolt-work | thought i have no clue why you would want to search for packages before installing the thing |
| 07:56.44 | arnuld | because, 2 years ago when I used Debian, it used some 10 different installations for 1 package |
| 07:56.45 | cahoot | market survey? |
| 07:56.57 | arnuld | like xorg-server, xorg-utisl etc |
| 07:57.10 | bolt-work | those are kind of different packages, you know |
| 07:57.19 | bolt-work | xorg is a metapackage afaik |
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| 07:57.23 | bolt-work | it'll pull in all the others |
| 07:57.39 | bolt-work | still, what's the point? |
| 07:57.41 | bolt-work | just install it |
| 07:57.54 | arnuld | thats what I wanted to know (it ain't happend 2 year ago though) |
| 07:58.08 | arnuld | Thanks :) |
| 07:58.29 | bolt-work | i'm pretty sure there were such packages 2 years ago as well |
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| 07:59.17 | cahoot | if you use aptitude it will pull in 'recommended' packages IIRC |
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| 08:01.49 | arnuld | BRB (Lunch Time) |
| 08:03.34 | bolt-work | please don't announce such information |
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| 08:04.42 | Supaplex | !tell arnuld -about away |
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| 08:20.38 | arnuld | Supaplex: I did not know that , people don't mind me saying "Away" on ##linux |
| 08:21.12 | arnuld | Supaplex: Okay, I have set the preferences (to not to send any messages) in my Xchat box :) |
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| 08:32.32 | juxbox | anybody up? |
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| 08:37.05 | bolt-work | nah |
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| 08:38.04 | juxbox | well, i'm not sure whether to use debian or not, any good advantages ? |
| 08:38.50 | juxbox | i tried kubuntu which is based on debian and it's the worst i've seen, so what about debian? |
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| 08:44.54 | OpenTokix | juxbox: Worst in what case? |
| 08:45.48 | cahoot | juxbox: it's like judging one after meeting his/her cousin |
| 08:45.50 | juxbox | some apps crashed, i discovered 3 bugs after a full update. One bug was a main issue, bypassing root access on shutdown |
| 08:45.50 | OpenTokix | juxbox: if you think apt is the worst packagemanagment there is, then debian would give you the same experience. If you are worried about kde-configuration in kubuntu... not really a problem since you can run any window manager you like. |
| 08:46.40 | juxbox | so which DE does it use by default? |
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| 08:50.33 | bolt-work | juxbox: any |
| 08:50.36 | bolt-work | juxbox: /none |
| 08:51.10 | bolt-work | juxbox: debian doesn't push you towards any desktop environment. you set up what you like |
| 08:51.13 | bolt-work | juxbox: if any |
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| 09:14.00 | superlinux2 | is on the way to help linuxers, and to infinity and beyound |
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| 09:14.41 | superlinux2 | who is in need of help? |
| 09:14.42 | ansu | hi |
| 09:14.56 | superlinux2 | or should i say hi kids! LOL! |
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| 09:38.44 | xsend | ps |
| 09:39.06 | arnuld | okay, cool, Debian 5.1 is installed :) |
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| 09:39.14 | arnuld | in flat 30 min only |
| 09:39.20 | EmleyMoor | ps? What about it? |
| 09:40.07 | xsend | no i m juste test this |
| 09:41.24 | Gun_Smoke | arnuld, yeah they go quick |
| 09:41.46 | arnuld | Gun_Smoke: its the festest manual installation I have ever seen |
| 09:41.57 | arnuld | Even Arch Linux does not install that fast |
| 09:42.10 | arnuld | and "aptitude" was blazing like hell |
| 09:42.24 | Gun_Smoke | yeah really helps if you pick a good mirror. |
| 09:42.49 | arnuld | yep, I did a lot of work on understading those mirrors |
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| 09:43.02 | arnuld | on different distros (Gentoo, Arch, Debian) |
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| 09:44.06 | cptblood | how do i search a specified file? |
| 09:44.12 | Gun_Smoke | locate |
| 09:44.14 | Gun_Smoke | find |
| 09:44.26 | Gun_Smoke | grep |
| 09:44.37 | Gun_Smoke | !search > cptblood |
| 09:44.39 | cptblood | but what if i dunno where it is? |
| 09:44.48 | Gun_Smoke | do you know the file name? |
| 09:44.51 | xsend | whereis |
| 09:44.54 | cptblood | yeah |
| 09:44.58 | Gun_Smoke | locate <file> |
| 09:45.04 | arnuld | cptblood: thats all you need, a filename |
| 09:45.10 | arnuld | cptblood: locate file |
| 09:45.12 | cptblood | do i need to run it as sudo? |
| 09:45.12 | jaz_pa-bop | first updatedb by root |
| 09:45.12 | arnuld | simple |
| 09:45.26 | arnuld | cptblood: why don't you you just run tthe command |
| 09:45.35 | jaz_pa-bop | then locate by user |
| 09:45.52 | arnuld | jaz_pa-bop: updatdb is already a cron-job I guess ? |
| 09:45.53 | cptblood | because it says Cannot open "/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db": Access denied |
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| 09:46.17 | Gun_Smoke | that is updated by the command updatedb |
| 09:46.39 | jaz_pa-bop | cron doesnt know when fs change, run a job periodly |
| 09:46.43 | Gun_Smoke | sudo updatedb or as root whatever you run |
| 09:47.02 | cptblood | still the same msg after running updatedb |
| 09:47.03 | arnuld | cptblood: Access Denied, you get that message when you did locate or updatedb ? |
| 09:47.09 | Gun_Smoke | I think it runs daily? |
| 09:47.10 | cptblood | locate |
| 09:47.20 | cptblood | ah, i had to run locate as sudo too |
| 09:47.27 | Gun_Smoke | that's odd.. |
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| 09:47.29 | jaz_pa-bop | debian always does wht do you think first :P |
| 09:47.32 | arnuld | cptblood: u using Ubuntu ? |
| 09:47.55 | cptblood | yeah, was intended to run it on debian, but tried on ubuntu first |
| 09:48.12 | arnuld | cptblood: Ubuntu has the tradition of not letting user use locate |
| 09:48.15 | khaije1 | anyone here follow firefox development? I heard it mention that the next release may include per-tab-threads with account isolation-per-tab anyone know if thats true? |
| 09:48.42 | arnuld | khaije1: IIRC, Google Chrome uses per-process method |
| 09:49.39 | arnuld | cptblood: so when you ask a question then we expect it to be asked out of Debian installation |
| 09:49.56 | cptblood | yea, sry |
| 09:49.57 | khaije1 | arnuld: tahts correct. there was some talk about ff doing the same thing, but i'm not sure if it's expected for the next release |
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| 09:50.13 | arnuld | cptblood: and not matter what Ubuntu guys say, Ubuntu is NOT Debian |
| 09:50.18 | Trewas | khaije1: not in ff 3.5 at least |
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| 09:52.18 | xor | Hi there. |
| 09:52.25 | xor | What is the path to php? |
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| 09:52.52 | xor | I ask this because, I have php installed, but after executing "which php" I get nothing. |
| 09:53.01 | jaz_pa-bop | lol |
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| 09:53.25 | atomikuWORK | It appears the debian server upstairs SSH has borked. I can't ssh to it. It just closes the SSH connection straigth away. How can I get back into it while avoiding restarting the box? |
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| 09:53.49 | jelly | atomikuWORK: use the console, Luke |
| 09:53.57 | xor | Or how can I find the path to php? |
| 09:53.59 | atomikuWORK | i cant be bothered to take a monitor up there :( |
| 09:54.27 | atomikuWORK | jelly: Could I just write a PHP script that su's as root then restarts SSH? |
| 09:54.47 | jelly | atomikuWORK: how can you write a script... if you cannot log in? |
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| 09:54.54 | atomikuWORK | jelly: i've got FTP |
| 09:55.05 | atomikuWORK | jelly: it also runs apache, so i can trigger the script |
| 09:55.06 | xor | Is there a log I can see where the php install was placed? |
| 09:55.24 | arnuld | atomikuWORK: I hope you know that you can't SSH as root (by default), did you change the settings in SSH conf file ? |
| 09:55.25 | atomikuWORK | meh, i'll just reboot it |
| 09:55.32 | atomikuWORK | arnuld: hmm |
| 09:55.42 | jelly | atomikuWORK: not being able to log in via ssh is often a symptom of some other malady |
| 09:55.49 | xor | Apache works with php, so is there I file I can check on apache's config to find out the path? |
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| 09:56.40 | arnuld | atomikuWORK: mmmm.. |
| 09:56.47 | atomikuWORK | hmmm |
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| 09:57.10 | atomikuWORK | I guess I'll just reboot the box |
| 09:57.12 | jelly | xor: you can write a simple <? phpinfo(); ?> script and call it |
| 09:57.18 | atomikuWORK | goodbye 70 days uptime :( |
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| 09:57.28 | almost | On lenny I have created a directory in www/cgi-data called nontmp how do i make cgi-data the owner and set permisions to 0700? |
| 09:57.55 | jelly | atomikuWORK: a serial console would help you for hte next time something like this happens |
| 09:57.59 | themill | xor: install the php5-cli package if you want /usr/bin/php |
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| 09:59.38 | xor | themill: Thanks, it works, I'm looking for the path now. |
| 10:00.16 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice day to and at all, good morning ! |
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| 10:01.12 | skilz | hi, I wanna access my wireless internet, im using debian and gnome, what do I need to do? |
| 10:01.14 | xor | Where is the path? |
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| 10:01.27 | atomikuWORK | jelly: well, I rebooted it from the server power switch, it hasn't booted up |
| 10:01.45 | atomikuWORK | jelly: looks like i'll bring a monitor and plug it in to the server, it already has a keyboard attached to it |
| 10:01.46 | atomikuWORK | BRB :) |
| 10:01.58 | themill | xor: path for what? /usr/bin/php? |
| 10:02.58 | xor | Path for php, /usr/bin/php isn't it, but something like that yeah. |
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| 10:03.33 | jaz_pa-bop | to 'try' ubuntu first to 'run' debian is an abomination lol |
| 10:03.45 | themill | xor: err... it *is* /usr/bin/php |
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| 10:04.24 | xor | It isn't here. =) |
| 10:04.26 | sauvin | It's what I did, though. I came from Fedora to Ubuntu. When I got fried out at Ubuntu for getting in my face too often, I went to Debian. |
| 10:04.35 | jelly | xor: then you're not using Debian's php. |
| 10:04.36 | xor | This is ridiculous! It's runs fine, I just can't find it! |
| 10:04.51 | xor | I installed it from aptitude. |
| 10:04.58 | xor | The packet named php5. |
| 10:05.06 | xor | The meta package. |
| 10:05.21 | jelly | xor: you might have just the apache module installed. |
| 10:05.29 | jelly | xor: use a phpinfo script. |
| 10:05.35 | themill | xor: did you install the php5-cli package or not? |
| 10:06.20 | warthog | skilz: do you have network-manager-gnome installed ? |
| 10:07.08 | xor | themill: Nop, I don't have the cli. |
| 10:07.08 | xor | Must be it then. |
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| 10:07.09 | UukGoblin | hi |
| 10:07.09 | UukGoblin | is there a package for openssh-server 5.2p1 somewhere? |
| 10:07.09 | almost | On lenny I have created a directory in www/cgi-data called nontmp how do i make cgi-data the owner and set permisions to 0700? |
| 10:07.12 | themill | xor: running php from the command line uses a completely different "php" to running php through apache. Hence libapache2-mod-php5 and php5-cli (and php5-cgi) packages |
| 10:07.33 | themill | judd versions openssh-server |
| 10:07.34 | judd | themill: openssh-server -- etch: 1:4.3p2-9etch3 etch-security: 1:4.3p2-9etch3 lenny: 1:5.1p1-5 sid: 1:5.1p1-5+b1 squeeze: 1:5.1p1-5+b1 |
| 10:07.35 | xor | I just expected the php5 package to install it. |
| 10:07.38 | themill | UukGoblin: ^^ no |
| 10:07.45 | xor | Thanks. |
| 10:08.03 | themill | xor: then read the package description for "php5" |
| 10:08.07 | UukGoblin | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/19/open_ssh_hack/ <- it looks like we need one ;-( |
| 10:08.27 | skilz | yes |
| 10:08.31 | xor | I did before installing the cli, just out of curiosity, you're right it doesn't mention cli anywhere. |
| 10:08.32 | xor | =) |
| 10:08.39 | skilz | warthog: yes i do |
| 10:09.40 | xor | Working like a charm. |
| 10:09.42 | xor | Cheers. |
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| 10:09.48 | atomikuWORK | looks like the debian box has locked me out |
| 10:09.50 | atomikuWORK | icant get into root |
| 10:10.02 | atomikuWORK | and su root from the only user I can log in as returns: setguid: Operation not permitted |
| 10:10.17 | atomikuWORK | What the heck has happened? |
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| 10:11.10 | xingu | atomikuWORK: epic selinux fail? rootkit? fubar libc/etcfiles? |
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| 10:11.28 | atomikuWORK | xingu: this box isn't accessable to the outside world, it shouldnt have been rooted |
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| 10:11.53 | atomikuWORK | not sure what to do now |
| 10:11.57 | themill | UukGoblin: there's no mention of this on the openssh website and there's no CVE number for this. I'm guessing either overblown or only applies to certain ciphers. (Don't believe everything you read on elreg.) |
| 10:12.00 | atomikuWORK | It's like its locked itself out |
| 10:12.13 | UukGoblin | themill, http://www.cpni.gov.uk/Docs/Vulnerability_Advisory_SSH.txt |
| 10:12.15 | atomikuWORK | Fuck, I think I know why |
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| 10:12.23 | atomikuWORK | I accidentally chmod -R 777 /* |
| 10:12.32 | atomikuWORK | like, i stopped it 1 second afterwards |
| 10:12.35 | xingu | that'll do it. |
| 10:12.36 | atomikuWORK | but I think its fucked with some of the permissions |
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| 10:12.43 | atomikuWORK | argh bollocks |
| 10:12.51 | xingu | check the perms on /sbin/su for starters |
| 10:12.55 | atomikuWORK | i cant |
| 10:13.00 | atomikuWORK | i cant get in as root |
| 10:13.02 | atomikuWORK | at all |
| 10:13.10 | xingu | ls/stat work as regular users... |
| 10:13.15 | atomikuWORK | hmm |
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| 10:13.17 | atomikuWORK | alright well |
| 10:13.18 | UukGoblin | themill, and there are mentions of that attack here: http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-5.2 |
| 10:13.20 | atomikuWORK | brb while I go upstairs |
| 10:13.30 | atomikuWORK | i may have to bring a laptop upstairs |
| 10:13.32 | atomikuWORK | and put IRC on it |
| 10:13.36 | atomikuWORK | otherwise it'll be constant up-down |
| 10:13.37 | atomikuWORK | BRB |
| 10:14.08 | khaije1 | Trewas: kthx, thats what i was wondering |
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| 10:15.22 | themill | UukGoblin: "likelihood of a successful attack is considered LOW." This also isn't exactly news... read the dates on that CPNI bulletin. It's 6 months old. |
| 10:16.19 | UukGoblin | themill, yes, and 5.2 was released on 23 Feb... I'm wondering why no-one bothered with a new package for 3 months |
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| 10:16.55 | themill | UukGoblin: if the openssh devs take 3 months to fix something like this, they don't consider it to be serious either. |
| 10:17.17 | themill | UukGoblin: You can also prevent the attack in older versions of ssh be using -ctr ciphers rather than -cbc ciphers as described in "solutions". man 5 sshd_config and look at the Ciphers directive. |
| 10:17.47 | atomiku_mibbit | okay, im sitting by the server now |
| 10:18.04 | UukGoblin | themill, fair enough, I'm not saying we need it urgently.. ;-) |
| 10:18.09 | atomiku_mibbit | So, ithe debian box is a little bit messed up becaus I accidentally chmod -R 777 /* |
| 10:18.11 | atomiku_mibbit | now I cant get in as root |
| 10:18.19 | atomiku_mibbit | Where abouts do I start, to fix this? |
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| 10:19.28 | xingu | atomiku_mibbit: clone a new system image from your template and import the trashed system's data volume groups |
| 10:19.47 | atomiku_mibbit | damn |
| 10:19.54 | xingu | well, that'd be how I'd go at it anyway. :) |
| 10:20.02 | atomiku_mibbit | ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 10:20.27 | atomiku_mibbit | not good |
| 10:20.31 | atomiku_mibbit | this could take ages |
| 10:20.40 | atomiku_mibbit | oops, and im already very close to missing a deadline |
| 10:20.47 | atomiku_mibbit | i cant develop this website without this box, ahaha |
| 10:20.50 | skilz | how do I run network-manager-gnome |
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| 10:21.33 | themill | UukGoblin: It'll come. |
| 10:21.38 | themill | skilz: nm-applet |
| 10:22.03 | skilz | oh |
| 10:22.09 | skilz | im not running gnome |
| 10:22.14 | skilz | im running openbox atm |
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| 10:22.31 | azeem | skilz: does it have a notification area? |
| 10:22.43 | skilz | (nm-applet:8038): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", |
| 10:22.53 | azeem | that's a warning |
| 10:22.58 | skilz | I wanna get my wifi working |
| 10:23.07 | skilz | so I can connect to my wireless router |
| 10:23.14 | azeem | skilz: 12:21 < azeem> skilz: does it have a notification area? |
| 10:23.16 | skilz | what do I need to do |
| 10:23.19 | azeem | it being openbox |
| 10:23.21 | skilz | what? |
| 10:23.26 | skilz | no |
| 10:23.37 | azeem | skilz: the nm applet is a notification area thingy |
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| 10:23.44 | atomiku_mibbit | I managed to get into root with "single user mode" |
| 10:23.46 | azeem | so if you don't have one, you won't see it I guess |
| 10:23.51 | skilz | ok |
| 10:23.55 | skilz | no I dont have one |
| 10:23.55 | atomiku_mibbit | now how do I go about restoring the permissions of the system files I fucked? |
| 10:24.13 | atomiku_mibbit | Just to recap: I chmod -R 777 /* accidentally, i canceled it after 2 seconds |
| 10:24.42 | hjb | skilz: why do you need the gnome network manager to get your wifi up and running? |
| 10:24.59 | skilz | I need some easy way to do it |
| 10:25.25 | skilz | make the wlan0 connected to my router dhcp |
| 10:25.31 | xingu | !i frobbed my perms with chmod |
| 10:25.31 | dpkg | Ouch. In the future, running 'find / \( -name proc -prune \) -o \( -name sys -prune \) -o -name "*" -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ld > /var/backups/permissions.bak' as root from a nightly cronjob will at least allow you to script some recovery. |
| 10:25.34 | izua | what is the best fs to store data that needs to be accessed by both windows and linux? |
| 10:25.47 | skilz | it's a bit tricky as far as I remember |
| 10:25.49 | izua | fuse.ntfs is great for reading, but if i write something in linux, i can't read it back |
| 10:25.53 | skilz | I would like some GUI |
| 10:25.59 | petemc | izua: fat32, as long as the files arent > 4gig |
| 10:26.00 | izua | fat32 is good, but it's very small |
| 10:26.19 | izua | um, that's kind of the issue. a lot of them are dvd images |
| 10:26.36 | xingu | izua: cifs ;) |
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| 10:26.47 | izua | i'd be happy to use ext3, but i couldn't find a working driver/app to read ext3 under win |
| 10:26.50 | izua | cifs? |
| 10:27.03 | petemc | ext3 abstracted through a network fs (like cifs) |
| 10:27.23 | petemc | izua: there are a few ways to read ext3 under windows, not sure how good any of them are tho |
| 10:27.24 | izua | no, on the same box |
| 10:27.28 | themill | izua: there are ext3 drivers for windows too |
| 10:27.32 | floe | skilz: afaik nm-applet will start in it's own window wirh the systray-icon in it if there is no system tray (notification area)... so you should be able to use it |
| 10:27.34 | hjb | skilz: maybe there're more GUIs out there |
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| 10:27.40 | hjb | skilz: what about kwlan? |
| 10:27.48 | izua | themill: i know. but i need _working_ drivers |
| 10:27.51 | SOUL_OF_R00T | cifs working fine for during a good time i recomend is stable.... |
| 10:27.56 | xingu | izua: there's a working ext2 implementation for 'doze, but I'm not sure I'd stake my livelihood on it |
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| 10:28.08 | themill | izua: ummm they work for a lot of people quite happily. |
| 10:28.13 | izua | the kernel-level driver? |
| 10:28.43 | izua | well, guess i'm out of luck. after i define my drivers, it sees them as unformatted |
| 10:29.00 | xingu | izua: but seriously, the answer is going to be a network filesystem; the 'doze and linux vfs layers are quite different... |
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| 10:29.39 | izua | how am i supposed to run a network filesystem without having network storage devices or a second box? |
| 10:30.05 | izua | it would have been too easy *sigh* |
| 10:30.18 | hjb | skilz: network-config also looks like a candidate for your task |
| 10:30.33 | floe | skilz: in kwaln u can only use wep. So I would use network-manager+nm-applet (or network-manager-kde which is a kde nm-applet) |
| 10:30.59 | hjb | floe: only wep? what a crap |
| 10:31.10 | izua | no dude. my task doesn't involve new hardware |
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| 10:31.21 | atomiku_mibbit | xingu: almost repaired |
| 10:31.32 | atomiku_mibbit | xingu: just need to restore 600 permissions of some important files |
| 10:31.42 | atomiku_mibbit | xingu: things are failing purposely because they know they're world-writable |
| 10:31.48 | floe | hjb: It's old. |
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| 10:33.31 | floe | hjb: As mentioned there's network-manager-kde which is an nm-applet written against kde(3)-api... since I use kde4.x I stay with nm-applet. |
| 10:33.34 | hjb | floe: didn't know that. i just did a 'debtags search network::configuration' and looked through that list ;) |
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| 10:34.34 | floe | skilz: Anyway.. you can install nm-applet... a few gnome-libs won't hurt openbox. |
| 10:34.54 | azeem | but will he be able to use it without a notification area? |
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| 10:35.29 | hjb | floe: the problem was that he have no panel or something to put the applet onto |
| 10:35.37 | floe | skilz: sometimes when my kdepanel with systray crashed U saw the nm-applet re-appearing in it's on window.. so I guess it will work |
| 10:35.51 | azeem | hjb: it's not an applet, despite the name |
| 10:35.59 | azeem | floe: aha |
| 10:36.02 | floe | azem: oops that was for you.... |
| 10:36.02 | hjb | azeem: ok |
| 10:36.13 | floe | azeem: He should just try that... |
| 10:36.17 | hjb | azeem: but it needs the notification area? |
| 10:36.24 | atomiku_mibbit | so |
| 10:36.25 | azeem | hjb: see what floe just said |
| 10:36.41 | atomiku_mibbit | lenny released, eh? nice. I had better upgrade my sources.lst |
| 10:36.43 | yuren | Hello! H have problem whith my fs. mount: unknown filesystem type 'jbd' What is the fs type? |
| 10:36.51 | xingu | izua: so your problem is that neither architecture lends itself to running code written for the other; there's a linux ntfs implementation and there's a windows ext driver, and I wouldn't classify either as particularly safe. |
| 10:36.53 | hjb | azeem: on my awesome wm, when i run nm-applet nothing happens |
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| 10:37.04 | hjb | azeem: i'd guess it's the same thing in openbox |
| 10:37.57 | floe | hjb: the window I saw is very small.. just as big as the tray-icon.. sure it's not open? Does nm-applet return with an error? |
| 10:38.43 | hjb | floe: no, it just runs till i kill it with ctrl-c, but nothing is displayed, even no tiny thing |
| 10:39.27 | hjb | floe: but i wonder why while network-manager is client/server based there's no other frontend to it |
| 10:39.40 | floe | hjb: network-manager-kde ;) |
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| 10:40.00 | floe | hjb: which is a systray-based app too :P |
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| 10:40.20 | hjb | floe: heh :D |
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| 10:42.48 | zepolen | how can i find out what the current disk io status is like? |
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| 10:43.13 | zepolen | read/writes / second etc. |
| 10:43.13 | creature_ | iotop |
| 10:43.16 | zepolen | ah thanks |
| 10:43.32 | mtryx | hi guys, when i attempt to install mysql in squeeze i get the following error: |
| 10:44.00 | zepolen | creature_: do you recall which apt package i can get that from? |
| 10:44.08 | creature_ | iotop |
| 10:44.10 | floe | I need to get debian on a laptop running vista... it sucks. Is there a repartition-tool shipped with vista? Or can I use Live-distro+(Q)Parted for ntfs volumes? |
| 10:44.19 | mtryx | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/nR3BRN |
| 10:44.32 | themill | !cnetworkmanager |
| 10:44.32 | dpkg | from memory, cnetworkmanager is a command-line client for <network-manager> written in Python. http://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/ |
| 10:44.56 | mtryx | it makes it impossible to install any packages from there on |
| 10:45.01 | mtryx | what is it that i am missing here? |
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| 10:45.17 | hjb | themill: is that in debian? i can't find a package |
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| 10:45.51 | gromgull | Does anyone else have pulseaudio always start muted? It doesn't show it though and I have to mute/umute to get it going... |
| 10:46.00 | themill | hjb: not yet (that I know of) |
| 10:46.39 | mtryx | anyone familiar with this error? http://www.mibbit.com/pb/nR3BRN |
| 10:47.20 | themill | !dbugs 511693 |
| 10:47.24 | dpkg | #511693:W[wnpp] ITP: cnetworkmanager -- Command line interface to NetworkManager (); Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:39:02 UTC [438544] |
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| 10:47.25 | themill | hjb: ^^ |
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| 10:47.55 | hjb | themill: yeah, i could have found that by myself :/ |
| 10:48.03 | hjb | themill: thanks |
| 10:49.18 | mtryx | i wonder why dpkg configure fails on --skip-federated on mysql (package defaults inside) |
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| 10:51.30 | mtryx | specifically the package is squeeze/main mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-24 |
| 10:51.41 | mtryx | it also borks the entire kde installation of course |
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| 10:52.28 | themill | mtryx: you have an interesting mixture of lenny and squeeze there which is probably your problem |
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| 10:53.44 | mtryx | themill: i was on lenny, then i simply changed my sources.list and upgraded using aptitude |
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| 10:53.57 | mtryx | how do i fix this? |
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| 10:58.43 | Pete_B | If suspend/hibernate writes the contents of RAM to swap, if I'm already using 1GB swap, does suspend/hibernate require an additional 1GB swap space? |
| 10:58.58 | mtryx | themill: any ideas or should i just reinstall everything (quite painful) |
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| 10:59.55 | themill | mtryx: a horrible hack would be just to put "exit 0" at the top of the mysql init script and see if that at least allows you to finish your upgrade. Be aware that the version of mysql in squeeze has known vulnerabilities though as squeeze has no security support yet. |
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| 11:00.31 | zepolen | would you consider ~15mb/s sustained random writes heavy load for a single disk? |
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| 11:01.20 | mtryx | themill: so practically kde is uninstallable because of this? |
| 11:01.34 | mtryx | not - installable, sorry |
| 11:01.35 | themill | mtryx: what does mysql have to do with kde? |
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| 11:01.54 | mtryx | themill: it requires it as a dependency (4.2.2 in squeeze) |
| 11:02.04 | kaushal | hi |
| 11:02.10 | mtryx | once i purge the non - installed / misconfigured mysql, it pulls away all the kde as well |
| 11:02.47 | kaushal | is there a way to know which package the pwd binary contains |
| 11:02.48 | kaushal | ? |
| 11:02.57 | kaushal | for example |
| 11:03.01 | Selveste1 | Hey :) Im trying to setup a bunch of desktops with fat-clients, but have can I restrict users to there home folder in nautilus + shell; in a easy and secure way ? |
| 11:03.03 | themill | mtryx: which kde package are you trying to install? |
| 11:03.13 | mtryx | aptitude install kde-full |
| 11:03.39 | themill | dpkg: tell kaushal about search |
| 11:03.51 | themill | kaushal: but in practice, "pwd" is usually a shell builtin |
| 11:04.26 | mtryx | it will install, but mysql-server will miserably fail postinstall configuration; i tried googling and i see that around dec 2008 this is a common error but haven't found a way to make the server ever start |
| 11:04.45 | themill | mtryx: ahh... the new data storage backends... |
| 11:04.58 | mtryx | unfortunately ... |
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| 11:06.17 | kaushal | mtryx: for example /etc/sasl |
| 11:06.31 | themill | mtryx: can you pastebin the output of "DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG=1 invoke-rc.d mysql start" |
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| 11:08.09 | mIRC_63_ita1 | ciao |
| 11:08.13 | mIRC_63_ita1 | !list |
| 11:08.13 | dpkg | mirc_63_ita1: VATTENE VIA |
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| 11:08.25 | mtryx | themill: just a second |
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| 11:12.32 | mtryx | eeeek |
| 11:12.32 | mtryx | themill: the output is quite large, how do i redirect it? |
| 11:12.48 | mtryx | 2>&1 does not work |
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| 11:12.56 | mtryx | i am here still or ghosted? |
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| 11:13.01 | pielgrzym | hi there |
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| 11:14.03 | pielgrzym | sorry for lame question - If I need a recent version of a package (django as an example) and in debian stable repo is an ancient version - I should simply find a .deb from testing and shove it up in my distro? or is there other more elegant way? |
| 11:14.17 | mtryx | themill: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/3IJU9L |
| 11:14.28 | mtryx | then it hangs |
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| 11:14.48 | OpenTokix | pielgrzym: read about apt pinning |
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| 11:15.14 | OpenTokix | pielgrzym: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 11:15.17 | kaushal | i forgot actually is it dpkg -S which /etc/sasl ? |
| 11:15.25 | pielgrzym | OpenTokix: thank you :) |
| 11:15.36 | mtryx | the /etc/mysql/debian.cnf file does have localhost though correctly |
| 11:15.38 | OpenTokix | pielgrzym: not a lame question, valid question btw. |
| 11:15.56 | pielgrzym | OpenTokix: :) |
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| 11:18.16 | atomiku | almost fixed |
| 11:18.16 | atomiku | i cant believe i chmod -R 777 / though. It's fiucked everything |
| 11:18.28 | themill | mtryx: interesting.... check to see if you have a hung mysql already running, that /var/log isn't full etc. Do you have a locally compiled mysqld too? (i've got to run off now though. see you later) |
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| 11:19.01 | wOPr | just a quick question: after entered the sources dir, and conpiled them, the executable is in the same dir? |
| 11:19.41 | pielgrzym | OpenTokix: I've got deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib in sources - what repo should I place as testing? |
| 11:19.56 | pielgrzym | http:// (...)/ etch/testing ? |
| 11:20.26 | simonrvn | etch is not testing |
| 11:21.00 | pielgrzym | so basically adding: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib |
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| 11:21.06 | pielgrzym | should do the trick, right? |
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| 11:22.32 | OpenTokix | pielgrzym: read the page I showed you, don't just glance over it |
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| 11:22.54 | nettezzaumana | hi all |
| 11:22.56 | nettezzaumana | # ip a |
| 11:22.59 | nettezzaumana | -bash: ip: command not found |
| 11:23.00 | pielgrzym | OpenTokix: ok :) sorry :) |
| 11:23.02 | nettezzaumana | wth? ^^ |
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| 11:23.25 | nettezzaumana | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 11:23.26 | nettezzaumana | 4.0 |
| 11:23.40 | nettezzaumana | which package contains please ip utility?? |
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| 11:24.15 | warthog | nettezzaumana: search on packages.debian.org |
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| 11:24.49 | mtryx | themill: no locally compiled, no ghost running |
| 11:25.01 | mtryx | anyway, this mysql installation via aptitude is kind of breaking me |
| 11:25.11 | OpenTokix | nettezzaumana: iproute |
| 11:25.46 | mtryx | i continuously get the : The following partially installed packages will be configured: mysql-server-5.0 |
| 11:26.01 | mtryx | then, it pops out for hte passwords etc, then it fails to complete post install configuration |
| 11:26.06 | atomiku | how can I reinstall the networking stuff with apt-get? |
| 11:26.21 | atomiku | I've screwed up the permissions of most things accidentally and connectivity only works now in single-user mode |
| 11:26.23 | mtryx | then all over: |
| 11:26.34 | atomiku | so I'm hoping I can like apt-get remove networking, apt-get install networking or something |
| 11:26.36 | atomiku | to fix things |
| 11:26.41 | mtryx | # /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-federated' Starting MySQL database server: mysqld........ failed! |
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| 11:27.00 | mtryx | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.0 |
| 11:27.06 | mtryx | :( |
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| 11:31.31 | pielgrzym | OpenTokix: I can't overcome the Dynamic MMap ran out of room problem |
| 11:31.47 | pielgrzym | OpenTokix: I've tried adding the line to /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 11:31.48 | pielgrzym | no luck |
| 11:32.06 | pielgrzym | also adding to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ files |
| 11:32.09 | mtryx | damn |
| 11:32.20 | mtryx | mysql-server-5.0 never completes installation |
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| 11:34.00 | atomiku | ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted |
| 11:34.09 | atomiku | i get that when I try to ping when I'm not root |
| 11:34.18 | atomiku | the permissions of the system are a little messe d up |
| 11:34.23 | atomiku | am I able to fix this? |
| 11:34.25 | pielgrzym | ok, doubled the limit and it seems to work :) thanks OpenTokix ! |
| 11:34.26 | mtryx | dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.0 is broken or not fully installed |
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| 11:37.57 | mtryx | ok i will try another stunt now, will report if it works |
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| 11:40.39 | pielgrzym | E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header |
| 11:40.43 | pielgrzym | err |
| 11:40.58 | pielgrzym | my preferences is roughly the same as in the tutorial |
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| 11:41.30 | rcbarnes | I want to use the same partition to hold the /usr and /home directories (so if one needs space, I needn't re-partition to get room from the other). Also, these two directories need to mount into a / filesystem that contains everyting but /usr and /home. How do I put that into fstab? |
| 11:42.04 | rcbarnes | I plan to keep both directories in the root of a partition like /dev/sdb1. |
| 11:42.51 | arnuld | I am in office right now and I have installed Debian at home (just installed it), it does not have any sofwtares installed yet |
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| 11:43.47 | arnuld | I noticed that Debian used DHCP, I want to use Static IPs, can anyone tell me what file I need to edit to make it Static DNS rather than doing DHCP ?? |
| 11:44.36 | Lord | arnuld > you must edit the file /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 11:44.38 | petemc | arnuld: /etc/network/interfaces to configure static ips - debian uses whatever you told it to use during the install |
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| 11:45.00 | SOUL_OF_R00T | arnuld, /etc/interfaces it you need |
| 11:45.24 | SOUL_OF_R00T | or /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:45.37 | Lord | yes ^^ /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:46.26 | Lord | ........ |
| 11:46.34 | Lord | * |
| 11:46.37 | SOUL_OF_R00T | tanks Lord |
| 11:46.51 | SOUL_OF_R00T | thx |
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| 11:48.36 | mtryx | fixed it guys |
| 11:48.38 | mtryx | i fixed it |
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| 11:49.42 | mtryx | should somebody ever have problems with mysql-server-* packages, you will have to remove mysql-common and reinstall |
| 11:49.46 | mtryx | weird |
| 11:50.16 | petemc | on which version of debian? |
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| 11:50.32 | mtryx | squeeze |
| 11:50.37 | petemc | oh |
| 11:50.42 | petemc | you can expect to have problems |
| 11:50.48 | mtryx | it was ruining my day |
| 11:50.52 | Lord | squeeze is testing ... |
| 11:50.55 | petemc | dont use testing then |
| 11:51.00 | mtryx | naturally, but this one was a fresh install |
| 11:51.18 | mtryx | i want kde |
| 11:51.30 | mosno | mtryx: i want my MTV. but it isn't packaged on Testing ;) |
| 11:51.34 | Lord | which one ? the brand new 4.3 ? |
| 11:51.39 | mtryx | 4.2.2 |
| 11:51.42 | petemc | ive noticed lots of people complaining about broken kde in testing |
| 11:51.58 | mtryx | yeah seems like there are some problems still; but this mysql bug was like ... not good |
| 11:52.16 | mosno | bugs? in a prerelease distro? say it isn't so! |
| 11:52.21 | mtryx | it made aptitude quite unhappy since it could not postinstall config |
| 11:53.13 | mtryx | actually, this "bug" is present even in "stable" debianoids like ubuntu |
| 11:53.33 | petemc | ubuntu isnt stable debian anything |
| 11:53.49 | mtryx | only that there they have piggybacked the solution on this dependency while they do a fresh install; in the upgrade it breaks |
| 11:53.52 | arnuld | and regarding Sound configuration |
| 11:53.54 | mtryx | yeah i said "stable" |
| 11:53.56 | petemc | the only thing that can claim that moniker is the current debian stable, which is 5.0 lenny |
| 11:53.58 | arnuld | I have to do alsaconf only ? |
| 11:54.20 | arnuld | and of course then "alsactl store" to store current settings |
| 11:54.23 | arnuld | ?? |
| 11:54.30 | mtryx | anyway i am quite happy i could fix my problem |
| 11:55.03 | mtryx | should anybody else have this problem, remember: mysql-common is your enemy |
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| 11:56.03 | pielgrzym | can someone tell me what's wrong? I did as pointed in apt-pinning tutorial and I keep gettin deps problem every package I try to install, no matter from which repo. Here is my sources.list and apt/preferences files: http://wklej.org/hash/d8d13c7b1e/ |
| 11:56.17 | mtryx | petemc: to be honest, using anything _but_ debian testing/unstable results in problems. Every other distro other than debian seems to suck more |
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| 11:56.26 | mtryx | so, debian; not because it is the best - but because it sucks less |
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| 11:56.59 | mtryx | at least i could find a way to clean this up without reinstalling; wouldn't have been the same say in ... distro (!debian) |
| 11:57.06 | cosmodad | where should I set DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME? |
| 11:57.11 | abrotman | pielgrzym: what packages are you trying to install from testing? |
| 11:57.58 | petemc | mtryx: what works for you isnt necesarily what works for other people |
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| 11:58.05 | pielgrzym | abrotman: python-django. any other package I try to install complains about dependencies :) |
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| 11:59.23 | abrotman | what command are you using to install? |
| 11:59.40 | fluxdude | i can't decide which apt proxying software to use at my site, should I use apt-proxy or apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng??? |
| 11:59.41 | abrotman | (and this probably won't really work since the default python in squeeze is different than etch) |
| 11:59.45 | pielgrzym | abrotman: tried those: http://wklej.org/hash/a4bc84259e/ |
| 11:59.46 | fluxdude | apt-cacher looks the simplest... |
| 11:59.48 | abrotman | fluxdude: try them both |
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| 11:59.50 | fluxdude | to configure |
| 11:59.52 | abrotman | erm .. all |
| 11:59.53 | mtryx | petemc: yeah; debian works for me i guess, it doesn't work for other people :) |
| 11:59.55 | fluxdude | have installed all 3 |
| 12:00.15 | fluxdude | looked through the config files, blah dunno wot to do... |
| 12:00.25 | fluxdude | will run each one I guess and see how it works |
| 12:00.29 | abrotman | pielgrzym: why not just dist-upgrade to lenny instead ? |
| 12:00.46 | mns_ | morning abrotman. thanks for the help last night. |
| 12:00.47 | pielgrzym | abrotman: so, what can I do not to waste my time on such stuff? choose unstable? I thought installing debian instead of gen2 will save me time :| |
| 12:00.54 | pielgrzym | abrotman: it won't work with connfix |
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| 12:01.17 | mtryx | wooo-ho, all packages install flawlessly |
| 12:01.22 | pielgrzym | abrotman: I'm limited to etch or I need other distro |
| 12:01.44 | abrotman | pielgrzym: lenny doesn't work with connfix ? |
| 12:01.45 | mtryx | me happy now |
| 12:01.47 | abrotman | mns_: you're welcome |
| 12:02.21 | abrotman | pielgrzym: did you try to just backport the packages instead of pinning ? |
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| 12:02.44 | pielgrzym | abrotman: I don't have a vague idea - if it did wouldn't my vps hosting give me it as an option for a fresh install? + I don't have time for reconfiguoring etc. I need an out-of-the-box stuff ;(((( |
| 12:03.04 | pielgrzym | abrotman: no, I'll try that |
| 12:03.09 | abrotman | !tell pielgrzym about ssb |
| 12:03.39 | pielgrzym | abrotman: thanks |
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| 12:04.22 | pielgrzym | abrotman: lighttpd doesn't want to install either. so basically half of the packages is unpinnable? with zsh and other stuff? ;( how cool |
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| 12:05.25 | abrotman | pielgrzym: pinning is a pretty iffy thing, even when done correctly .. and you'd probably end up having to change python on etch, which is A Very Bad Thing |
| 12:06.03 | pielgrzym | ok, lenny is 5.0, right? |
| 12:06.12 | mns_ | pielgrzym: yes lenny is 5.0 |
| 12:06.35 | pielgrzym | ok, found the option to auto install it on vps, let's try that |
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| 12:07.19 | pielgrzym | abrotman: it's the moment I thank God I'm using rolling distros all over other machines :| how much time you can put in simply installing newer packages :( |
| 12:07.36 | pielgrzym | abrotman: lenny could fix my problem, could it? |
| 12:07.36 | karme | does "fsck.ext3 -f -v" detect more errors than "fsck.ext3 -f" ? |
| 12:07.52 | abrotman | pielgrzym: you said something about conntrac not working ? |
| 12:08.02 | abrotman | judd: versions python-django |
| 12:08.02 | judd | abrotman: python-django -- etch: 0.95.1-1etch2 etch-security: 0.95.1-1etch2 etch-backports: 1.0.2-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.0.2-1 sid: 1.0.2-1 squeeze: 1.0.2-5 sid: 1.0.2-7 experimental: 1.1~beta1-4 |
| 12:08.41 | agaran | karme: i think it detects same, but its more verbose about reporting |
| 12:09.00 | pielgrzym | abrotman: no, the connfix, a front-end for idiots who can't actually configure the server or for you pissy client who will think it gives him some control ;) |
| 12:09.13 | abrotman | pielgrzym: oh .. never used it :) |
| 12:09.23 | karme | agaran: thats what i thought, too - but now i see some strange results at the moment ... still inspecting ... |
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| 12:09.42 | pielgrzym | abrotman: like plesk or other stuff :) thank God you don't have to use it ;) |
| 12:09.49 | abrotman | pielgrzym: if you give them ssh .. isn't that just as good? :) |
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| 12:13.35 | mtryx | phew :) got everythign back |
| 12:13.36 | mtryx | :P |
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| 12:16.17 | wicket | jmut: if you want to get rid of the configuration files, then purge the package. |
| 12:16.23 | wicket | wopps! |
| 12:16.25 | pielgrzym | abrotman: those idiots don't even know what ssh is ;) |
| 12:16.36 | karme | found out fsck.ext3 -f -v and fsck.ext3 -f find the same errors - sorry for the noise |
| 12:16.43 | abrotman | pielgrzym: do you charge for education too ? :) |
| 12:16.45 | wicket | (ignore me, accidently pressed my keyboard) |
| 12:16.53 | pielgrzym | abrotman: hehe |
| 12:16.58 | abrotman | wicket: do you live on endor? |
| 12:17.16 | abrotman | oh wait .. it was a moon of endor wasn't it? |
| 12:17.30 | mtryx | have fun all |
| 12:18.01 | wicket | abrotman: That was a long time ago |
| 12:18.07 | wicket | in a galaxy far far away |
| 12:18.20 | abrotman | wonders about the latency |
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| 12:19.23 | agaran | abrotman: with warp space communicator no problem ;) |
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| 12:19.30 | agaran | abrotman: but without, rtt will be in..years.. |
| 12:19.57 | izua | i have two hdds, /dev/sda where is the bootloader and windows, and /dev/sdb which has a big windows partition, and at the end, the linux partition with my current debian. i have freed the big partition on /dev/sdb (sdb5) and wish to convert it to ext3. however, i was thinking, would there be any advantage if i move my os to the begining of the hdd? (seek times should be lower on the outsides of a platter, if anything, and it might even do a defrag of the ext |
| 12:20.26 | daveStyle | If "dpkg --search /lib/tls/libc-2.3.2.so" returns a "not found" error, does that mean the file wasn't installed via the package manager ? |
| 12:20.38 | \amethyst | izua: if you move it to the beginning you can grow it to cover the whole disk |
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| 12:21.00 | izua | hmm, that was my second question |
| 12:21.06 | izua | can't i simply extend the current partition? |
| 12:21.23 | abrotman | daveStyle: on which version of debian ? |
| 12:21.38 | daveStyle | abrotman: 3.1 |
| 12:22.13 | abrotman | jebus |
| 12:22.47 | abrotman | daveStyle: it should have come from your libc6 package .. dpkg -S tls/libc-2.3.2.so |
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| 12:23.15 | \amethyst | izua: resize keeps the same beginning and only changes the end |
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| 12:23.26 | daveStyle | abrotman: Can you PM you something ? |
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| 12:23.45 | abrotman | daveStyle: unless it's truly private .. i'd rather you use a pastebin |
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| 12:23.57 | abrotman | but yes, you can (thanks for asking first) |
| 12:24.00 | Yancho | hi anyone has any ideas for a good network-based scanning software please? i need it to be executed from also windows machines - so gui would b best please |
| 12:24.18 | abrotman | Yancho: shouldn't you ask ##windows ? |
| 12:24.18 | daveStyle | abrotman: It's a little small for pastebin |
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| 12:24.24 | abrotman | okay |
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| 12:25.19 | blackbeard2000 | hi |
| 12:25.26 | RainbowW | Just upgraded squeeze to kde 4.2. I'm not seeing any names for any of my icons: http://picpaste.com/pics/3_3.1242819456.png ..... what's the smoke on that? |
| 12:25.34 | avtobiff | Yancho, how is runnable from windows implying that gui would be best? |
| 12:25.51 | Yancho | abrotman: the scanner is connected to debian |
| 12:25.55 | izua | \amethyst: ah, i see. |
| 12:25.59 | abrotman | RainbowW: i don't use kde .. but i find all the recycle icons amusing :) |
| 12:26.22 | Yancho | avtobiff: i meant web-gui |
| 12:26.26 | RainbowW | abrotman, those are .txt~ files that the user (not me) has preferred to leave around. |
| 12:26.38 | unomi | im having some serious problems with flash on debian/iceweasel |
| 12:26.43 | abrotman | Yancho: so windows has nothing to do with it |
| 12:26.47 | abrotman | unomi: get in line :) |
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| 12:27.04 | unomi | ive installed both flashplugin-nonfree and flashplayer-mozilla |
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| 12:27.16 | unomi | and none have given me the ability to use flash |
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| 12:28.08 | Yancho | i see abrotman - any hints still please? |
| 12:28.18 | blackbeard2000 | what could be the problem? i have sound when playing .mp3 with Xfmedia... i have tv-video with XawTV... but i have no tv-sound |
| 12:28.22 | \amethyst | Yancho: I haven't used it but google turned up http://sourceforge.net/projects/inprotect/ |
| 12:28.31 | \amethyst | Yancho: web-based frontend to nmap and nessus |
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| 12:28.48 | \amethyst | Yancho: (nmap and nessus are both in Debian; inprotect is not) |
| 12:28.53 | blackbeard2000 | bt848-chip |
| 12:29.01 | exx | hello guys, i have a debian server with 4 ip addresses and have 4 vmware server guests. i need to assign each guest a dedicated ip. how can i do it? |
| 12:29.08 | abrotman | unomi: update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so ? |
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| 12:29.33 | blackbeard2000 | external line out from tv-card is connected with line-in from soundcard |
| 12:30.05 | blackbeard2000 | direct with earphones i hear nothing on the external-line-out on th tv-card |
| 12:30.18 | unomi | There is only 1 program which provides flash-mozilla.so |
| 12:30.19 | unomi | (/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so). Nothing to configure |
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| 12:30.27 | blackbeard2000 | so i assume it hase something to do with the tv-card |
| 12:30.30 | hendry | help, i can't seem to remove these java packages http://debian.pastebin.com/m3b24219a |
| 12:30.45 | Yancho | \amethyst: not network scanning .. image scanning across the network |
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| 12:31.23 | blackbeard2000 | any quick alternative for xawtv? |
| 12:32.12 | abrotman | \amethyst: network 'scanning' .. nto 'network scanning' :) |
| 12:32.18 | \amethyst | Yancho: oh, sorry :) |
| 12:33.42 | blackbeard2000 | or could someone please pastebin a working .xawtv which he uses with a bt848 or bt878 chip? |
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| 12:34.03 | \amethyst | hendry: try upgrading java-gcj-compat-dev at the same time |
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| 12:35.37 | mib_zlm6wf | hi, how can I run a script automatically when the kernel is upgraded? like update-grub does.... |
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| 12:35.59 | hendry | \amethyst: sudo apt-get install java-gcj-compat-dev # does not work :/ |
| 12:36.04 | abrotman | mib_zlm6wf: in the kernel-img.conf |
| 12:36.09 | \amethyst | hendry: oh, never mind... the conflict is in the latest versions of the two packages |
| 12:36.29 | mib_zlm6wf | abrotman: grat thanks |
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| 12:37.39 | up365 | blackbeard2000, have you tried tvtime? |
| 12:37.49 | blackbeard2000 | no |
| 12:37.53 | hendry | \amethyst: i just want to rid of them... grr |
| 12:38.29 | blackbeard2000 | up365: i will ook at it |
| 12:38.32 | blackbeard2000 | look |
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| 12:38.49 | unomi | the most frustrating thing is that flash works fine as root :| |
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| 12:41.17 | up365 | blackbeard2000, I have winfast tvcard w/ sound from tvcard to sb card on aux, activated "phone" in vol control to work |
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| 12:42.00 | blackbeard2000 | phone? lol |
| 12:42.04 | blackbeard2000 | i will look |
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| 12:43.30 | blackbeard2000 | have no "phone" either in aumix nor xfce-volume-control |
| 12:43.58 | up365 | blackbeard2000, yeah cd and aux are being used by cd & dvd so connected tvsound to "tad" |
| 12:44.07 | blackbeard2000 | and the rest is all at the highest level |
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| 12:46.18 | up365 | blackbeard2000, in alsamixer - edit - preferences then check a option to activate |
| 12:46.24 | blackbeard2000 | "aplay -Dhw:0,0 some-wav-file.wav" does work fine, too |
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| 12:48.12 | blackbeard2000 | up365: alsamixer on the console? i dons see any preferences |
| 12:48.39 | unomi | well, fixed the flash issue, it had to do with perms of /usr/lib/mozilla |
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| 12:48.50 | up365 | blackbeard2000, not on console dbl click the speaker icon |
| 12:49.22 | blackbeard2000 | thats not alsamixer in my xfce |
| 12:49.49 | blackbeard2000 | its xfce4-mixer |
| 12:50.15 | up365 | oh ok I'm using gnome so don't know equivalent |
| 12:50.19 | blackbeard2000 | no every speaker-icon points to alsmixer ;) |
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| 12:52.36 | karme | blackbeard2000: some tv cards have there own mixer |
| 12:52.46 | blackbeard2000 | i think i there is a mute-switch for bt848-chips... so may anyone paste his working .xawtv please... that i can have a look if there is my failure |
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| 12:52.56 | karme | blackbeard2000: for example msp3400 (if i remember correctly?) |
| 12:53.46 | karme | blackbeard2000: ~s/there/their/ |
| 12:53.47 | blackbeard2000 | cat /proc/modules |grep msp shows: msp3400 |
| 12:54.09 | blackbeard2000 | and now? :) |
| 12:54.42 | karme | blackbeard2000: depending on the mixer app you might have to choose that other mixer and see wether it is muted |
| 12:54.58 | blackbeard2000 | i cant choose msp3400 ther |
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| 12:55.26 | blackbeard2000 | how would it work with aumix? is there a "aumix /dev/msp3400" |
| 12:55.48 | SerajewelKS | isn't aumix for OSS mixers? |
| 12:55.49 | karme | blackbeard2000: does the kernel log say something about that mixer? |
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| 12:56.01 | blackbeard2000 | argh i have no /dewv/msp3400 |
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| 12:56.14 | karme | blackbeard2000: /dev/mixer? |
| 12:56.14 | blackbeard2000 | is is loaded automatically |
| 12:56.20 | blackbeard2000 | dev mixer is there |
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| 12:56.32 | karme | blackbeard2000: /dev/mixer{0,1} ? |
| 12:56.35 | blackbeard2000 | sound works with .wav+.mp3 perfectly |
| 12:56.52 | blackbeard2000 | no only /dev/mixer |
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| 12:58.11 | blackbeard2000 | ooooooo... dmesg |grep msp shows: msp3400' 1-0040: chip reset failed |
| 12:58.19 | blackbeard2000 | wtf |
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| 12:59.13 | karme | blackbeard2000: some tv cards also have a own a-d converter (see tvaudio) |
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| 12:59.33 | blackbeard2000 | i knew there is some shit with 2.6-kernels...2.4 worked perferkt |
| 12:59.45 | karme | blackbeard2000: this is just as additional info - you probably want to solve the msp3400 problem first? |
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| 13:00.23 | blackbeard2000 | i dont know which problem i should solve first. i just want to see tv with sound ^^ |
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| 13:01.13 | blackbeard2000 | but thanks. i think you brought me nearer to the problem |
| 13:01.57 | blackbeard2000 | i will try now a few live-distros and look if it works with other kernels |
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| 13:03.08 | karme | blackbeard2000: another thing to watch for, if you use the bttv module is the model parameter - sorry for those vague hints, but this is just from memory |
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| 13:05.57 | gigo | hi |
| 13:06.13 | gigo | i have installed a new debian system. it has vim but it does not support :syntax on, etc. |
| 13:06.15 | gigo | why? |
| 13:06.26 | stew | gigo: install vim-full |
| 13:06.34 | karme | blackbeard2000: some additional notes regarding the tvaudio solution - afair: it was somewhat difficult to get it to work - the funny thing is that those a-d converters sometimes have a really large sampling rate, but only mono, and you don't need an extra sound card if all you want to do is recording ... |
| 13:06.49 | stew | gigo: the answer to why is probaby that you have vim-tiny installed instead |
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| 13:07.59 | gigo | stew: ok, I would like to confirm that. what is the command to see where the /usr/bin/vim.tiny file comes from |
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| 13:09.02 | blackbeard2000 | karme thanks |
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| 13:09.16 | blackbeard2000 | i will remember that with tvaudio |
| 13:09.18 | stew | gigo: see what "readlink -f $(which vim)" points to (this can be changed with "update-alternatives --config vim" you can see where that comes from with "dpkg -S /usr/bin/vim.tiny" |
| 13:09.28 | stew | gigo: you also might want "update-alternatives --config editor" |
| 13:09.34 | blackbeard2000 | but i think my tv-card is not one of them |
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| 13:09.52 | karme | blackbeard2000: ups - the bttv module option is called: card (not model) |
| 13:10.05 | kpt-pejsek | hi, howto print which package owns foo file like in `rpm -qif /foo` ?? |
| 13:10.08 | blackbeard2000 | its one of the oldest hauppauge PCI FM stereo or such |
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| 13:10.24 | karme | blackbeard2000: modinfo bttv|grep card |
| 13:10.34 | raidghost | I wanna know why i get this message when trying to install a package: |
| 13:10.37 | raidghost | This package is uninstallable |
| 13:10.37 | raidghost | Dependency is not satisfiable: libglibmm-2.4-1c2a |
| 13:10.42 | kpt-pejsek | hi, howto print which package owns foo file like in `rpm -qif /foo` ?? |
| 13:10.46 | e1luca | I (hardly) understand I need http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn for whireles to work. I did something wrong because "modprobe iwlagn" gives me error. I'm on lenny 64bit. any idea? tnx |
| 13:10.52 | raidghost | Why the FUCK is it uninstallable. I have allready install it with apt-get install |
| 13:10.52 | gigo | stew: thanks. there was another command with apt-cache or something with which we can find out /usr/bin/vim.tiny comes from which package. could you please tell me that? |
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| 13:11.19 | stew | gigo: "dpkg -S /usr/bin/vim.tiny" or "apt-file search /usr/bin/vim.tiny" |
| 13:11.28 | gigo | stew: great. thanks |
| 13:11.33 | stew | you're welcome |
| 13:12.05 | karme | blackbeard2000: then maybe searching for "hauppauge cardlist bttv" should be enough |
| 13:12.37 | raidghost | the bttv should work for the hauppage card |
| 13:12.46 | blackbeard2000 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.46 | blackbeard2000 | description: bttv - v4l/v4l2 driver module for bt848/878 based cards |
| 13:12.46 | blackbeard2000 | parm: card:specify TV/grabber card model, see CARDLIST file for a list (array of int) |
| 13:12.46 | blackbeard2000 | parm: radio:The TV card supports radio, default is 0 (no) (array of int) |
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| 13:13.03 | blackbeard2000 | sorry |
| 13:13.09 | blackbeard2000 | hey just 3 lines! |
| 13:14.03 | blackbeard2000 | 4 to be exactly |
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| 13:14.14 | Gun_Smoke | too many |
| 13:14.26 | Gun_Smoke | look at pastebinit |
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| 13:14.44 | blackbeard2000 | jup knew |
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| 13:16.24 | kaushal | stew: when i do sudo dpkg -S /etc/samba/smb.conf, i get dpkg: /etc/samba/smb.conf not found. |
| 13:17.06 | blackbeard2000 | there is |
| 13:17.08 | blackbeard2000 | parm: automute:mute audio on bad/missing video signal, default is 1 (yes) (int) |
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| 13:17.18 | kaushal | also when i do sudo apt-file search /etc/samba/smb.conf, it returns nothing |
| 13:17.20 | blackbeard2000 | with modinfo bttv |
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| 13:17.38 | karme | blackbeard2000: thats not your problem |
| 13:17.59 | themill | kaushal: it's probably created in the postinst of samba-common |
| 13:18.29 | blackbeard2000 | karme yes i dont think this is the problem. |
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| 13:18.40 | kaushal | themill: any other ways to find out ? |
| 13:18.55 | gigo | I have done: aptitude install xmonad. now, how do I start xmonad? |
| 13:19.01 | gigo | there seems to be no xserver |
| 13:19.05 | blackbeard2000 | any command to find out if something is muted? |
| 13:19.11 | karme | blackbeard2000: you probably want: modprobe card=10 |
| 13:19.22 | karme | blackbeard2000: sorry modprobe bttv card=10 |
| 13:19.31 | justin | gigo: aptitude install xorg |
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| 13:20.06 | karme | blackbeard2000: or for really old hauppauge using bt848 - card=2 |
| 13:20.20 | dadrock | From where could i download debian linux ? |
| 13:20.32 | gigo | dadrock: http://www.debian.org/ :-) |
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| 13:21.03 | gigo | dadrock: see the "Getting Debian" section in the left bar. |
| 13:21.27 | dadrock | gigo: its given some thing like jidgo download |
| 13:21.36 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, yup that ^^ will do.. should only need the first CD, or if you have a nice connection the netinstall. |
| 13:22.00 | themill | kaushal: apt-file search smb.conf throws up likely suspects, then look in the postinst for samba-common (/var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst). Many files in /etc are created this way. |
| 13:22.02 | gigo | dadrock: so select the one you understand. "Download CD/DVD images using HTTP or FTP." |
| 13:22.04 | kpt-pejsek | stew: thanks sir |
| 13:22.05 | blackbeard2000 | paste.debian.net down? |
| 13:22.06 | dadrock | is there any iso available? ,gigo |
| 13:22.15 | blackbeard2000 | no |
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| 13:22.21 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, there are a bunch |
| 13:22.46 | blackbeard2000 | karme: here is it: http://paste.debian.net/36629/ |
| 13:22.52 | dadrock | Gun_Smoke_, so i have to download all of them? |
| 13:23.00 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, no just one. |
| 13:23.12 | gigo | dadrock, the first CD or DVD is enough |
| 13:23.13 | Havalina | i would love to make my own webserver on my debian VPS...what does this require? what is the easist solution for a n00b when only having the terminal? |
| 13:23.15 | blackbeard2000 | can you see out of that, which parameters i need? |
| 13:23.38 | gigo | dadrock: if you have internet connectivity, the rest of the packages can be downloaded from debian repositories on the internet as you need. |
| 13:24.04 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, assuming you want to use x86 this will work for you. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 13:24.17 | dadrock | i dont have so good internet connection,Gun_Smoke_ |
| 13:24.40 | blackbeard2000 | and yes, it is a really old hauppauge with bt848 |
| 13:24.47 | karme | blackbeard2000: see above |
| 13:24.50 | gigo | dadrock, then you might want to download the 5 DVDs. |
| 13:24.59 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, well that link will get you a working debian system with a gnome desktop environment.. It's about 650M |
| 13:25.26 | blackbeard2000 | karme: i will try, thanks |
| 13:25.27 | gigo | dadrock, but with Debian you would want to have a useful internet connection. I managed with 128 Kbps too. so if you have anything more than that, i guess you would be fine. |
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| 13:25.51 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, or as gigo suggested, if you have access (work friend) with a better connection to get the dvd's.. Or perhaps purchase them for a small fee.. |
| 13:25.57 | dadrock | thanks ,gigo ,Gun_Smoke_ |
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| 13:26.45 | dadrock | is there any way of downloading multiple packages through terminal at same time? |
| 13:27.09 | jelly | dadrock: installing or really downloading? |
| 13:27.23 | jelly | dadrock: aptitude -d install package1 package2 package3 |
| 13:27.42 | dadrock | downloading |
| 13:28.09 | dadrock | jelly, that is not working |
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| 13:28.19 | jelly | how is it not working? |
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| 13:28.56 | dadrock | i wrote that command in terminal and nothing happened,jelly |
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| 13:29.13 | jelly | dadrock: absolutely no output? |
| 13:29.16 | gigo | dadrock: something should happen even if it is only some error messages. |
| 13:29.20 | dadrock | I am asking for ubuntu 9.04 edition,jelly |
| 13:29.29 | jelly | dadrock: ask in #ubuntu, then |
| 13:29.42 | dadrock | ok ,jelly |
| 13:30.06 | blackbeard2000 | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee modprobe bttv card=2 worked |
| 13:30.18 | blackbeard2000 | karma: thanks, thanks, thanks! |
| 13:30.22 | dadrock | Can i request debian cd or dvd for free? |
| 13:30.28 | karme | blackbeard2000: no problem |
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| 13:30.35 | raidghost | dadrock: DOWNLOAD and burn |
| 13:30.44 | blackbeard2000 | do i have to put that in /etc/modules or such? |
| 13:30.57 | dadrock | hehe,raidghost |
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| 13:31.30 | gigo | dadrock: no, Debian CDs are not shipped free of cost like Ubuntu. You can either buy them for a small fee from some local vendor (list is present in debian site) or you can download them and burn. |
| 13:31.35 | Gun_Smoke_ | dadrock, debian doesn't have some deep pockets to push its way to success.. It lives for over 15 years because it rocks.. |
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| 13:32.25 | karme | blackbeard2000: i think today one puts it in /etc/modprobe.d in a file - something like: echo 'options bttv card=2' > /etc/modprobe.d/mybttvoptions |
| 13:32.49 | karme | blackbeard2000: but maybe someone else can jump in and shed some light on that |
| 13:33.05 | mischief | checkinstall is such a nice piece of software <3 |
| 13:33.18 | blackbeard2000 | ok. that i will find out myself.. i think |
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| 13:35.05 | karme | hmm - i would be interested too, to all: is it the correct way (today) to set kernel module options by placing a file like described above in /etc/modprobe.d ? |
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| 13:40.37 | Dunge | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Input/output error <--- happens when trying to upgrade libs with apt-get (in this case cpio)... any way to know which file is having IO error? |
| 13:40.38 | dpkg | Dunge: that's too long |
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| 13:41.33 | Dunge | what the hell a bot called dpkg? :P |
| 13:41.59 | abrotman | it's a channel bot |
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| 13:43.34 | Dunge | anyway.. is there a way to see the configure files inside .deb package to see which file it's trying to access and can't? |
| 13:43.54 | Dunge | or any other ideas |
| 13:44.21 | blackbeard2000 | Dunedan: mc then press enter on the .deb |
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| 13:44.56 | Dunge | mc? |
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| 13:45.16 | blackbeard2000 | midnight commander |
| 13:45.19 | lunartear | what do you guys think the best way to backup a bunch of user's email accounts to another machine? rsync? |
| 13:45.49 | Gun_Smoke_ | lunartear, that will do.. |
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| 13:46.12 | Gun_Smoke_ | or rdiff-backup for incremental |
| 13:46.22 | lunartear | hmm |
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| 13:48.33 | blackbeard2000 | hte internetz is really slow todayz |
| 13:48.45 | lunartear | Gun_Smoke 45Gig of data to migrate |
| 13:48.49 | lunartear | wee |
| 13:49.34 | petemc | lunartear: if you're going to use rsync, use version 3 |
| 13:49.51 | Gun_Smoke | lunartear, yeah that's going to take a bit... |
| 13:50.13 | lunartear | petemc, any special reason? |
| 13:50.27 | Gun_Smoke | I seem to be stuck moving stuff on the wlan at about 700K/s so it takes forever.. |
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| 13:50.46 | Gun_Smoke | last time I moved 50G from my place to Texas it was like 9 days.. lol |
| 13:51.21 | lunartear | yummy |
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| 13:52.07 | Dunge | blackbeard2000 : ok.. I entered mc, got to the .deb, enter on it show content (CONTENTS and DEBIAN folder, INFO and INSTALL file)... but enter on those don't do anything |
| 13:52.09 | lunk | Gun_Smoke: never underestimate that bandwidth of a station wagon full of hard drives travelling at 60mph |
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| 13:52.28 | blackbeard2000 | dont do enter on those |
| 13:52.28 | Gun_Smoke | lunk, LOL |
| 13:52.30 | lunk | that = the |
| 13:52.46 | Dunge | lol |
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| 13:52.59 | Gun_Smoke | that would have taken far less time.. |
| 13:53.21 | Gun_Smoke | hell even the mail would have beaten it. |
| 13:53.24 | blackbeard2000 | you just wanted to know what they do... so F3 for view it |
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| 13:54.58 | funyun | noob here. is there some sort of codec pack i can install on debian? |
| 13:55.02 | lunartear | i wonder if version 3 is backported |
| 13:55.33 | regomodo | i've just installed moblock. Anybody have an url to test to see if it works? |
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| 13:55.58 | Dunge | actually, pressing enter on INSTALL executed the install script.. and magically it seems to have configured it correctly.. anyway it's no more in my "apt-get -f install" list of uninstalled packages with errors |
| 13:56.05 | simonrvn | extracting stuff from .debs used to work... |
| 13:56.09 | simonrvn | with mc |
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| 13:56.42 | lunartear | looks like 3.0.3-2~bpo40+1 for etch |
| 13:56.47 | Dunge | i am corrupting my system or should I continue to do that with my others 3-4 problematic packages? |
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| 13:57.40 | tingle | !flash |
| 13:57.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 13:57.47 | tingle | sorry for public :x |
| 13:58.16 | nkuttler | Dunge: wth are you doing? |
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| 13:58.51 | funyun | noob here. is there some sort of codec pack i can install on debian? |
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| 13:59.31 | Dunge | lol... I'm a noob and was trying to update my libraries on an arm system with a sdcard filesystem... did apt-get install libcairo2-dev.... it installed bout 15/30 packages then whined about IO error on 4 of them in the post-configure script |
| 13:59.41 | Dunge | so I was trying to find out what went wrong |
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| 14:00.49 | nkuttler | Dunge: io error sounds like faulty hardware |
| 14:00.50 | \amethyst | Dunge: I would expect a problem with the SD media, or maybe the reader |
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| 14:01.17 | \amethyst | theoretically a corrupted filesystem could cause I/O errors, too, if it refers to blocks past the end of the media |
| 14:01.21 | maheshm | hi, which package provides autoheader? |
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| 14:01.41 | nkuttler | funyun: /msg dpkg mplayer, and w32codecs or what it is called |
| 14:01.52 | simonrvn | maheshm: emacs thingy? |
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| 14:01.52 | maheshm | is it not binutils? |
| 14:01.56 | maheshm | nope |
| 14:02.00 | tingle | hi i did a minimal debian install whit gnome-core and xorg but now i dont have a network-managers that helps me for my wireless.. what packge do i need to install for that gnome-network-manager? |
| 14:02.02 | Dunge | yeah well people here are telling me that it happens on every sdcard on every board they tested.. usually only on /var/log files so deleting and re-creating them fix the problem |
| 14:02.07 | Dunge | but not this time |
| 14:02.11 | nkuttler | !tell maheshm about search |
| 14:02.44 | simonrvn | oh that autoheader... |
| 14:03.24 | maheshm | nkuttler: ok.. :) |
| 14:03.43 | nkuttler | maheshm: hm, /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 14:04.36 | maheshm | she says "no idea" :) |
| 14:04.45 | nkuttler | !apt-file |
| 14:04.45 | dpkg | from memory, apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file or list files in a package even if it's not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regexp; see man apt-file). You can also search online; ask me about <pdo> <auto-apt> <dlocate> |
| 14:05.13 | maheshm | oh sorry |
| 14:05.31 | simonrvn | !gender |
| 14:05.31 | dpkg | I'm not sure |
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| 14:08.21 | maheshm | thank you guys.. |
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| 14:09.36 | sylar | anyone here does HA? |
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| 14:10.05 | sylar | I am talking@linux-ha and it seems all debian packages are lacking |
| 14:10.17 | sylar | does anyone use HA and is happy? |
| 14:10.24 | sylar | what package/version? |
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| 14:11.21 | lunk | i used a combination of heartbeat and VRRPD (think that's the right acronym) at my last job, still running after 6-7 years |
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| 14:12.25 | mollitz_ | how to add debian-sid to my sources-list? (i dont find the links) |
| 14:13.59 | nkuttler | mollitz_: why do you want to do that? |
| 14:14.44 | mollitz_ | nkuttler: theres a package i want to install |
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| 14:15.03 | nkuttler | mollitz_: /msg dpkg backports |
| 14:15.06 | nkuttler | mollitz_: /msg dpkg ssbp |
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| 14:15.23 | mollitz_ | nkuttler: or should i download it sperate and install with dpkg? |
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| 14:15.49 | mollitz_ | thx |
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| 14:16.37 | nkuttler | mollitz_: do not mix unstable and stable packages |
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| 14:18.21 | mollitz_ | nkuttler: i just see... i depends on newer packages, which dont exist in my repos... |
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| 14:20.11 | hoohah | hello. how do i create a listing of apps installed from testing that have same version available in unstable? I'm tracking both repositories |
| 14:20.40 | hoohah | i would like to make sure i can remove testing repos when things like tor and gimp are fixed in unstable |
| 14:20.41 | Pnux | hey, i just stopped aptitude update with ctrl+z, now when i try to uptitude safe-upgrade, it tells me that another process is using (E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?). Can i fix this without having to reboot? |
| 14:20.46 | mollitz_ | argh... and where to get the gpg for debian sid? |
| 14:20.59 | hoohah | Pnux: kill aptitude, or remove lock file |
| 14:21.02 | simonrvn | Pnux: fg |
| 14:21.06 | hoohah | or fg |
| 14:21.07 | petemc | Pnux: ctl z doesnt stop |
| 14:21.39 | Pnux | petemc: so what does it do? |
| 14:21.47 | abrotman | hoohah: you'll have to play with the Packages files i'd guess .. or apt-listversions |
| 14:21.54 | simonrvn | fOREgROUND |
| 14:22.09 | petemc | Pnux: suspend |
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| 14:22.22 | Pnux | hoohah, simonrvn: i tried fg and its updating now, thanks for the help |
| 14:22.31 | Pnux | petemc: oh, thanks |
| 14:22.39 | petemc | you'll want to use control c in the future |
| 14:22.41 | simonrvn | man bash ;) |
| 14:23.16 | Pnux | petemc: do you know a list of all those terminal shortcuts? |
| 14:23.35 | petemc | google for control codes |
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| 14:24.28 | stew | win 54 |
| 14:24.36 | Pnux | petemc: thanks |
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| 14:38.33 | lewis2 | I need to copy (just once) 30Gb from one server to another (located right next to each other). The content is many files within a directory, so I can't just FTP a .tar - is the next best option rsync? |
| 14:38.56 | Xenox | scp connection? |
| 14:38.59 | jpinx-eeepc | lewis2: rsync and use options |
| 14:39.05 | frankS2 | rsync |
| 14:39.09 | frankS2 | \o/ |
| 14:39.10 | lewis2 | use options? |
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| 14:39.27 | frankS2 | you dont have to use options |
| 14:39.30 | jpinx-eeepc | sory - options like --remove-source-files |
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| 14:40.29 | lewis2 | thanks |
| 14:40.29 | jpinx-eeepc | rsync -rv --remove-source-files /from/here/ /to/here |
| 14:40.40 | lewis2 | well, I want to copy, not move ;) |
| 14:41.03 | jpinx-eeepc | lewis2: then don't use --remove-source-files ;) |
| 14:42.52 | lewis2 | genius - lastly, is it better to 'push' or to 'pull'? |
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| 14:43.20 | jpinx-eeepc | lewis2: rsync-ing one big tar file is not interruptible, but rsyncing a whole tree is |
| 14:43.39 | jpinx-eeepc | lewis2: rsync is good either pushing or pulling |
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| 14:46.13 | lewis2 | and away we go!!! |
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| 14:46.26 | jpinx-eeepc | \o/ |
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| 14:47.08 | e7th04sh | hi, i am a (mosly) happy debian user... but i miss the games i could play on windows... so i wonder are there any games in the style of europa universalis, for debian? |
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| 14:47.48 | jpinx-eeepc | e7th04sh: have you tried using wine? |
| 14:48.09 | Polarina | e7th04sh: Have you tried Wine? http://winehq.org/ |
| 14:48.46 | jpinx-eeepc | Polarina: ;) |
| 14:48.59 | e7th04sh | well, wine is ok, but i would like to play some games, not only hang out with friends |
| 14:49.04 | Polarina | e7th04sh: If you want a game that doesn't require Wine, one is Nexuiz (First person shotter) and The Battle for Wesnoth (Turn-based, strategy, fantazy-based role playing game). |
| 14:49.25 | e7th04sh | yeah, i know quite a few games for linux, that's not the problem |
| 14:49.57 | jpinx-eeepc | e7th04sh: you can play windows games in linux by using wine |
| 14:50.00 | hoohah | what would be the best irc avenue to ask about the maildir format? |
| 14:50.10 | ranix | Wesnoth is good, by the way |
| 14:50.15 | hoohah | i can't find a particular bit of info on the web |
| 14:50.22 | ranix | how is nexuiz, Polarina? |
| 14:50.24 | e7th04sh | jpinx-eeepc, i kow, i was just kidding ;p it seems europa universalis aint working wit hwine |
| 14:50.29 | e7th04sh | i mean the google says so |
| 14:50.38 | ranix | e7th04sh: don't use wine to play games, it's just no good |
| 14:50.42 | Polarina | ranix: It is great, if you have a good graphic card. |
| 14:50.52 | ranix | Polarina: nifty, I'll check it out |
| 14:50.56 | hoohah | a normal maildir filenaame is 1035478339.27041_118.foo.org,S=1000,W=1030:2,S However, with dovecot, ,S=..., is omitted |
| 14:50.57 | e7th04sh | ranix agree, tough there are a few examples that work just fine, includig starcraft |
| 14:51.51 | jpinx-eeepc | e7th04sh: did you try the very latest wine from their own repo? |
| 14:52.02 | e7th04sh | nope |
| 14:52.12 | e7th04sh | i did not try it myself, i just checked what people say on google |
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| 14:52.47 | jpinx-eeepc | e7th04sh: everyone's mileage is different depending on hardware and what else you have running |
| 14:53.45 | Myth` | When I use VI in a terminal, any time I press an arrow key to go to the next line A B C and D are typed out? |
| 14:53.48 | e7th04sh | yeah, true, but my computer has already problems |
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| 14:54.21 | e7th04sh | it;'s 2.) GHx 256 ram(512 swap) and it sometimes has problems working |
| 14:55.04 | Myth` | Backspace doesn't work either, maybe I'm doing something wrong. I press 'a' to insert text into the file correct? |
| 14:55.11 | \amethyst | Myth`: :set nocompatible or create a ~/.vimrc |
| 14:55.18 | jpinx-eeepc | e7th04sh: hardware issues? or something in linux? |
| 14:55.26 | e7th04sh | i dont know, really |
| 14:55.32 | e7th04sh | and frankly, i don;t give a damn, dear :P |
| 14:55.37 | \amethyst | Myth`: in compatibility mode, arrow keys don't do anything in insert mode |
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| 14:55.55 | e7th04sh | i have to buy another computer anyways, cause i can't stand the noise this one is generating |
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| 14:56.21 | Myth` | \amethyst: That worked, however I'm still unable to backspace line breaks. I can delete/backspace characters though. |
| 14:56.25 | jpinx-eeepc | hands e7th04sh a pair of earplugs |
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| 14:56.53 | e7th04sh | yeah, they're great unless you usde computer fior AV |
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| 14:56.59 | \amethyst | Myth`: :set backspace=indent,eol,start |
| 14:57.22 | Myth` | \amethyst: This is something I need to type in every time I use VI? |
| 14:57.33 | \amethyst | Myth`: or you can put those commands in your ~/.vimrc |
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| 14:57.41 | \amethyst | Myth`: in .vimrc you don't need the colon |
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| 14:57.55 | \amethyst | (but it doesn't hurt other than readability) |
| 14:58.03 | Myth` | \amethyst: I'm very new to linux/debian - Let me google that. |
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| 14:58.57 | Myth` | \amethyst: If I wanted to change the behaviour system wide I would edit /etc/vim/vimrc ? |
| 14:59.01 | \amethyst | Myth`: it's a file you create in your home directory that has commands vim should run every time it starts |
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| 14:59.46 | \amethyst | Myth`: yes. If you have vim.tiny then put it in /etc/vim/vimrc.tiny instead |
| 15:00.14 | \amethyst | Myth`: but if you have vim.tiny probably you should apt-get install vim to get the full version |
| 15:00.27 | \amethyst | s/full/reasonable/ |
| 15:00.32 | Myth` | \amethyst: What does lenny base come with? |
| 15:00.48 | Myth` | I have vimrc and vimrc.tiny when I LS the directory |
| 15:01.32 | hark | Myth`: run it as vim not vi |
| 15:01.43 | Myth` | hark: Thanks, let me try that. |
| 15:02.25 | Myth` | hark: Yes, that worked. Thanks. |
| 15:02.39 | \amethyst | yeah, then it would be /etc/vim/vimrc |
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| 15:11.46 | Ash-Fox | How do I disable ssh's stupid check on file permissions on certificates? - I am trying run backups under a specific user and I use ACLs to grant it read access to everything and SSH refuses to work when the ACLs are set on the files. |
| 15:11.47 | fenh1r | is there a dscaler for linux somewhere. or something which uses dscalers features? |
| 15:11.57 | FilipeMaia | How can I convert a pdf to grayscale? |
| 15:13.30 | themill | Ash-Fox: which particular permissions check are you talking about? |
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| 15:14.16 | UukGoblin | Ash-Fox, I think that's done by ssh itself, not debian |
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| 15:15.06 | UukGoblin | but I don't know how to disable it |
| 15:15.10 | pcb-dennis1 | hi all together, i have a problem using apt with a proxy (squid), apt-get upgrade tries to download every file about 30 times |
| 15:15.15 | Ash-Fox | themill, the permissions check on certificates located in /etc/ssh for the server - It's probably going to complain about key permissions in /home/username/.ssh too |
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| 15:15.54 | themill | Ash-Fox: for good reason. There's no reason to have them readable or writable by the wrong people. |
| 15:16.16 | Ash-Fox | themill, why on earth would I want backup running as root? |
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| 15:17.13 | petemc | to get unfettered access to the whole system |
| 15:17.16 | themill | Ash-Fox: there are plenty of worse things that you could do other than run rsync as root. |
| 15:17.19 | Ash-Fox | I want backup running under the backup account and I can't backup if daemons like SSH are going to refuse to operate normally. |
| 15:17.28 | DavidProck1981 | what is the non desktop enviroment app that controls screen blanking |
| 15:17.37 | petemc | dpms? |
| 15:17.39 | t_corr | i am trying to figure out how to get my dm-crypt volumes when they show up in /dev/mapper/ to have user root, group the user that just ran cryptsetup |
| 15:17.43 | Ash-Fox | themill, this isn't rsync. |
| 15:18.30 | t_corr | right now they are always root.disk but i want access restricted since other users could possibly mount them |
| 15:18.34 | themill | FilipeMaia: kde's print system (+cups) can convert pdfs to greyscale. (open it in kpdf, hit print to pdf and you're done). I think it uses ps2pdf in the background for that, so that's where you can look. |
| 15:18.56 | t_corr | and since fstab doesnt let you limit mounting to a specific user (that i can see) ... i am kinda lost |
| 15:19.15 | DavidProck1981 | where is the config file that controls screen blanking |
| 15:19.45 | amphi | DavidProck1981: you can use xset |
| 15:19.45 | DavidProck1981 | im not using kde or gnome |
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| 15:20.11 | themill | Ash-Fox: So you're setting /etc/ssh/* to 644 and then using ACLs to restrict access to all other users? |
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| 15:20.25 | sylar | anyone here does HA? |
| 15:20.58 | DavidProck1981 | amphi aptitude search xset dont show a package |
| 15:21.04 | Ash-Fox | No, I left /etc/ssh as it was and set "setfacl -R -m u:incremental-backups:rX" on it - the moment I set ACLs, ssh cries |
| 15:21.47 | themill | Ash-Fox: sshd? ssh client when connecting? I still don't have a picture of what isn't working and what the error message is. |
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| 15:21.53 | Ash-Fox | To put it simply, I didn't change any 'global' permissions, just the ACL setting for one account. |
| 15:22.06 | themill | Ash-Fox: so why would that affect ~/.ssh? |
| 15:22.16 | Ash-Fox | becaues ~/.ssh contains private keys too |
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| 15:22.23 | FilipeMaia | themill, i don't see any option to convert to grayscale |
| 15:23.11 | mollitz_ | is there a way to unpack .run-files? |
| 15:23.12 | Ash-Fox | themill, the error message is server side when you connect to sshd, because the permissions are not seen to be set to user readable only it complains and refuses connections. |
| 15:23.16 | amphi | DavidProck1981: xset is part of xorg, you should already have it |
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| 15:23.59 | amphi | DavidProck1981: it's in x11-xserver-utils |
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| 15:24.06 | Ash-Fox | If you connect from the regular ssh on the server with private key authentication, it will refuse to login until you set the perms it wants on the file (ie: remove the acls) |
| 15:24.12 | themill | FilipeMaia: gs -sOutputFile=greyscale.pdf -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sColorConversionStrategy=Gray -dProcessColorModel=/DeviceGray -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH color.pdf |
| 15:24.36 | anoHito | i am having a problem |
| 15:24.49 | anoHito | i forgot to export the mysql database |
| 15:24.57 | themill | Ash-Fox: I can't see how changing the ACLs on backupuser is going to affect any other user from logging in |
| 15:25.08 | anoHito | now the mysql database is in a hardrive. |
| 15:25.09 | DavidProck1981 | amphi with out man xset can u tell me how to set it to not blankout |
| 15:25.15 | anoHito | how can i get it ? |
| 15:25.23 | FilipeMaia | themill, that's some impressive display of magic, many thanks |
| 15:25.24 | FilipeMaia | bows |
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| 15:25.43 | anoHito | i mean, 1. install that HDD back to the server,then log in ,then do mysqldump , 2 , ? |
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| 15:26.00 | abrotman | !tell DavidProck1981 about dpms |
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| 15:28.10 | Ash-Fox | themill, http://ash-fox.quickfox.org/temp/ssh-unhappy |
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| 15:29.12 | Ash-Fox | themill, that's what happens when ACLs are set on the file for a specific user. I just need to get sshd to skip that check. |
| 15:29.15 | themill | Ash-Fox: 0640 is not the normal permissions for the key. It should be 0600. |
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| 15:32.45 | t_corr | I'm confused on dm-crypt. When I run cryptsetup and it prompts me for my password it mounts the image in /dev/mapper/blah, but anyone and everyone can mount blah - this seems like a security risk? |
| 15:33.17 | Ash-Fox | themill, it's a side effect of setting ACLs, the actual permissions are not that however |
| 15:33.27 | t_corr | i mean what is the point of encrypting if when its opened, everyone can access it |
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| 15:34.01 | Ash-Fox | themill, the problem is, the moment you set the 0600 perms via chmod, the files are inaccessible to the backup account: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key: Permission denied |
| 15:34.32 | themill | Ash-Fox: why not just tell your backup script not to backup the keys? |
| 15:34.49 | Ash-Fox | themill, because I want to backup the keys. |
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| 15:35.02 | Ash-Fox | The whole point of doing a backuop. |
| 15:35.09 | themill | Ash-Fox: then copy them somewhere. they should never change. |
| 15:35.22 | anoHito | hello, can i know in debian,where are the mysql database datas located ? |
| 15:35.41 | Ash-Fox | sighs |
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| 15:35.47 | Ash-Fox | I'm just going to go hack the source |
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| 15:36.16 | Ash-Fox | Going to be a pain in the ass with every openssh security update |
| 15:36.58 | petemc | you cant change what you're doing, rather than change ssh? |
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| 15:37.12 | petemc | you must be very confident that what you're doing is The Right Way |
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| 15:37.13 | themill | Ash-Fox: make a cron job that does "cp /etc/ssh/*key /etc/ssh/backups/ ; setfacl (something) /etc/ssh/backups/ " |
| 15:37.40 | themill | If something is supposed to have read access to everything, I'd be tempted just to run it as root.... |
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| 15:39.16 | t_corr | i mean i guess, if i had an fstab entry with 'user' and the mount point was somewhere under the user's folder, then there would be no security hole, since the only thing another user would be able to do then is mount it for the other user, but not having access to it |
| 15:39.26 | t_corr | it still seems insecure |
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| 15:43.15 | WormFood | t_corr, learn how to use group permissions |
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| 15:46.00 | t_corr | WormFood: In Debian block devices have users and groups of root.disk and I need to be able to prevent these to a) be mappable by normal users, and b) be only mappable by one user |
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| 15:46.28 | WormFood | add that user to the "disk" group |
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| 15:47.06 | t_corr | WormFood: Every user will have their own encrypted container, decrypted by dm-crypt, placed in /dev/mapper. Every user needs to be able to mount their volume. |
| 15:47.32 | t_corr | If I add every user to the disk group, then everyone will be able to access everyone's container, defeating the security. |
| 15:48.21 | WormFood | the security is in the password for encryption....that is the whole idea behind using encryption like that....to protect the data from other untrusted users who have access to the machine |
| 15:48.52 | t_corr | But I think I have it figured out - I will make fstab root.root 0640 and place everyone's mount definition in there. Even if another user were to try and mount another user's device from /dev/mapper, it would mount it under /home/otheruser/blah and they would not have access to it anyway |
| 15:48.52 | anoHito | How do i mount a HDD which is attched to the server's USB port with a converter ? |
| 15:49.25 | t_corr | WormFood: Once the user runs cryptsetup and enters their password, the UNENCRYPTED volume is in /dev/mapper which is why I need to restrict who can then mount that volume. |
| 15:49.27 | anoHito | How do i mount a HDD which is attched to the server's USB port with a converter ? please, i am in a hurry, thanks. |
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| 15:50.11 | anoHito | The second question is if i do that, do i need to shutdown the server in advance ? |
| 15:50.16 | WormFood | anoHito, dmesg|tail |
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| 15:50.18 | anoHito | There you go,guys . |
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| 15:50.29 | WormFood | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 |
| 15:50.36 | anoHito | no |
| 15:50.39 | t_corr | Now I am almost positive there should be a way to tell dm-crypt to make device in /dev/mapper have custom permissions like root.usergroup, but I can't find docs, and that's why I came here |
| 15:50.40 | WormFood | of course change your paths to be what you need |
| 15:50.43 | anoHito | hmm |
| 15:50.56 | anoHito | do i need to shutdown server before do that ? |
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| 15:53.10 | t_corr | It would be easier to use pam_mount and have this mounted before they even login, but I can't figure out how to get pam_mount to work with public key authentication over ssh |
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| 15:54.44 | t_corr | running a secure server for untrusted people is hard : |
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| 15:55.44 | \amethyst | t_corr: I don't know if it's possible to use PAM and pubkey authentication at the same time |
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| 15:55.58 | \amethyst | t_corr: I mean, for the same session |
| 15:56.09 | anoHito | what does this mean ehci_hcd EHCI Host Controller |
| 15:56.12 | t_corr | it probably isn't. i spent like 4 hours googling it, and got no where. |
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| 15:56.36 | t_corr | so its either i hack the client to use expect to enter the password, or i do this. i still havent decided which would be easier. |
| 15:56.47 | epsas | anoHito - extended host controller interface -- it is a USB controller |
| 15:57.16 | anoHito | epsas, if so ,how about this one uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller |
| 15:57.26 | epsas | that is a usb controller as well |
| 15:57.39 | epsas | probably the same one, supporting both protocols |
| 15:57.42 | anoHito | epsas, in phpsysinfo, it reports i have 4 of uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller ,and one of the first one. |
| 15:58.12 | anoHito | epsas, that means,i can just attach my HDD with a convert to USB then connect to the server's USB port ? |
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| 15:58.25 | anoHito | epsas, do i need to shutdown server before do that ? |
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| 15:59.51 | anoHito | epsas, server recognize it |
| 16:00.00 | anoHito | i found many new info in dmesg |
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| 16:00.25 | anoHito | it say in sdb |
| 16:00.47 | Gun_Smoke | could someone please a message with my nick in it? Configuring konversation.. thanks.. |
| 16:00.47 | Leafar | Please, My PC doesn?t show the KDE graphical mode using the Debian-Live CD 5.0 KDE in my PC, only in console mode, what command lines can I type at the begining to have the graphics mode, I tried this iso image with qemu and this is all OK, somebody help me |
| 16:01.29 | ultraj61 | startx |
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| 16:01.35 | epsas | anoHito - that sounds right |
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| 16:01.39 | fanti | hello! in kde3's konsole i've a fixed-size font named "Fixed [MISC]" ? where do i find out to what debian package that font belongs to? or what's the font's real name? |
| 16:01.49 | anoHito | epsas, yeah, but now how do i mount it ? |
| 16:02.13 | epsas | does the hard drive have partitions? |
| 16:02.15 | anoHito | epsas, mount -loop /dev/sdb /mnt/usb |
| 16:02.30 | epsas | you shouldn't need the -loop |
| 16:02.37 | epsas | that is for loopback filesystems |
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| 16:02.57 | anoHito | epsas, yes, i have just replaced that HDD with a new one,but i forgot to backup mysql database datas,and the databases are in /home/mysql/username/databas_name/ |
| 16:03.07 | anoHito | oh |
| 16:03.24 | anoHito | epsas, i mean,that attached HDD has partitons ,the same linux partitons. |
| 16:03.59 | anoHito | epsas, what would you suggest me to do ? |
| 16:04.22 | epsas | sfdisk -l /dev/sdb |
| 16:04.34 | epsas | that will tell you the partitions on the usb device |
| 16:04.37 | epsas | (if any) |
| 16:05.02 | epsas | mount the partition to /mnt/usb, and then copy the files that you need |
| 16:05.23 | anoHito | epsas, yea,it shows them. |
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| 16:05.51 | anoHito | epsas, http://pastebin.ca/1428895 |
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| 16:06.17 | anoHito | the / partion of that hdd is sdb3 |
| 16:06.46 | anoHito | epsas, mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/usb ? |
| 16:06.54 | epsas | yes - that would work |
| 16:07.08 | anoHito | let me try. |
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| 16:07.40 | ZombieBoy | Hello guys. I am trying to configure my sound card in debian squeeze and I am having a lot of problems. lspci reports that I have: "AC'97 Audio Controller", and although the supposed modules are loaded and configured, there is no sound. |
| 16:07.51 | anoHito | epsas, mount: mount point /mnt/usb does not exist |
| 16:08.00 | Polarina | ZombieBoy: Does it work in lenny? |
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| 16:08.03 | anoHito | thinking i need to mkdir /mnt/usb first ? |
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| 16:09.33 | joeDeuce | anoHito, yes |
| 16:09.43 | \amethyst | anoHito: yes, though '/media/usb' is more standard |
| 16:10.13 | ZombieBoy | Polarina: I am not sure... I had etch before and the sound worked. |
| 16:10.23 | anoHito | let me try mount /dev/sdb3 /media/usb |
| 16:10.31 | anoHito | oh i gotta mkdir it first. |
| 16:10.35 | \amethyst | either way you'll have to make the directory :) |
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| 16:10.47 | Polarina | ZombieBoy: If it doesn't work on lenny, file a regression bug report for lenny. If it works on lenny, file a bug report on squeeze. |
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| 16:11.30 | ZombieBoy | Polarina: The problem is that I don't want to reinstall my system just to go back to lenny. |
| 16:12.17 | Polarina | ZombieBoy: File a bug report on squeeze and note in the report that you couldn't test it on lenny. |
| 16:12.51 | ZombieBoy | Polarina: It's strange though, because when the PC boots up there is sound, but there is non in every other app. |
| 16:13.21 | Polarina | ZombieBoy: Then note that in the report. |
| 16:13.34 | ZombieBoy | Maybe kde (I'm using kde) is holding into the alsa sound driver and not alawing anything else to use it? |
| 16:13.51 | themill | !list alsa users |
| 16:13.51 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
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| 16:14.12 | Polarina | ZombieBoy: No, only OSS behaves that way, all programs can use ALSA at any time. |
| 16:14.17 | lindenle | Does anyone know how to make linux re-scan the pci bus. |
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| 16:15.05 | anoHito | How do i copy all files in a folder and compress them all in the same time ? |
| 16:15.12 | ZombieBoy | themill: nice commands |
| 16:15.26 | SQlvpapir | what happened to aptitudes --with-suggests command? I'm trying to install pulseaudio with both recommends and suggests but -r only provides recommends - I'd really like the suggests to also be treated as a dependency! |
| 16:15.51 | anoHito | for example, now i need to copy a folder plus all files in it which are in /media/usb/home/mysql/tanaka_bbs/ |
| 16:16.21 | Leafar | lindenle try lspci |
| 16:16.27 | SQlvpapir | anoHito: tar gz pipe |
| 16:16.35 | lindenle | Leafar: Will that rescan the bus? |
| 16:17.09 | lindenle | Leafar: I just burned an fpga on one of the pci-express cards and i want to re-scan the pci configuration space |
| 16:17.09 | maligor | lindenle, no, it won't |
| 16:17.11 | anoHito | SQlvpapir, hmmm |
| 16:17.12 | Leafar | lindenle list of the pc devices |
| 16:17.22 | lindenle | Leafar: that is not what i asked about |
| 16:17.30 | ZombieBoy | Polarina: It was in fact a process that was not releasing the sound driver. I killed knotify4 and I have sound in one app at a time. |
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| 16:19.28 | pistache | Hello. I am trying to connect my Sony Ericsson S500i to the Net using a Personal Aera Network between the phone and my computer, with Bluetooth. But the phone is not connecting to the computer |
| 16:19.45 | ZombieBoy | Polarina: I am not sure about how sound is handled in kde4, but am I supposed to install arts or something like that? |
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| 16:20.01 | pistache | The bnep0 interface is created but I can't ping any address and the phone can't acess the web |
| 16:20.37 | pistache | My question is : what should I use ? ipmasq or iptables for masquerading ? dhcp3-server or dnsmasq for DHCP/DNS ? |
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| 16:21.55 | anoHito | in debian, how do i copy entire folder including all files it it ? |
| 16:22.04 | anoHito | cp -rf source destination ? |
| 16:22.08 | berzerka | anoHito: yes |
| 16:22.14 | anoHito | for sure ? |
| 16:22.17 | lunk | cp -ar |
| 16:22.18 | \amethyst | cp -a if you want to preserve permissions etc |
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| 16:22.28 | anoHito | preserver ? |
| 16:22.42 | maligor | lindenle, it probably requires pci hotplug support to be available |
| 16:22.57 | \amethyst | anoHito: if you want the new copies to have the same ownership, permissions, and dates as the source copies |
| 16:22.59 | lindenle | maligor: I was wondering about this fakephp |
| 16:23.01 | anoHito | i mean, i would keep all the constructions of that original files plus keep all the original permissions. |
| 16:23.01 | lindenle | module |
| 16:23.15 | berzerka | how can i make gdm import my environment variable definitions (e.g. from ~/.profile) upon login? |
| 16:23.19 | anoHito | cp -a or cp -ar ? |
| 16:23.26 | lindenle | maligor: but I cannot seem to figure out how to use it |
| 16:23.33 | maligor | fakephp? |
| 16:23.35 | berzerka | anoHito: man cp |
| 16:23.38 | anoHito | too many hospitabl person from you ,i do not know which one is correct. |
| 16:23.38 | SerajewelKS | anoHito: -a implies -r |
| 16:23.42 | \amethyst | anoHito: -a is file, it implies -R |
| 16:23.47 | SerajewelKS | anoHito: -a and -ar mean the same thing |
| 16:23.52 | anoHito | Thank you guys ! |
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| 16:24.10 | simonrvn | man cp; sheesh |
| 16:24.18 | myeggo | ad |
| 16:24.19 | anoHito | with -a, do i need to privide the folder name ? |
| 16:24.40 | enouf | < berzerka> anoHito: man cp |
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| 16:24.50 | berzerka | simonrvn: well asking about specific options of a basic command is what the manpage answers best. |
| 16:24.53 | SerajewelKS | no, when you use -a, cp attaches to your brain and determines what you want automatically |
| 16:24.56 | anoHito | let me try. |
| 16:25.06 | enouf | !try |
| 16:25.06 | dpkg | try is, like, "<reply> Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try." |
| 16:25.28 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: no, try is <reply> Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
| 16:25.29 | dpkg | SerajewelKS: okay |
| 16:25.30 | berzerka | simonrvn: ah you are with me, i see it now. excuses. |
| 16:25.31 | SerajewelKS | !try |
| 16:25.32 | dpkg | Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
| 16:25.35 | SerajewelKS | wins |
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| 16:26.17 | ZombieBoy | Anybody know how to make the sound work for all applications and not just one? |
| 16:26.21 | simonrvn | berzerka: yes, which you replied proplery to; whereas the chan spent 5 minutes telling him what to do. |
| 16:26.32 | simonrvn | properly* |
| 16:26.56 | simonrvn | gvivse p speling porprely |
| 16:26.59 | SerajewelKS | !tell ZombieBoy about alsa one-liner |
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| 16:28.22 | anoHito | hmm |
| 16:28.31 | votan | does anybody know on the top of their head how you increase rxvt font size? |
| 16:28.36 | anoHito | it takes a long time ,cuz the mysql is big. |
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| 16:28.48 | anoHito | cp -a /media/usb/home/mysql . |
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| 16:29.09 | anoHito | i wonder if i can add some options to make the result are all compressed at the same time |
| 16:29.22 | simonrvn | use a pipe |
| 16:29.32 | SirStan | put it in your mkfifo and smoke it |
| 16:29.37 | ZombieBoy | SerajewelKS: I already did that before, but sound is still being blocked by one app. |
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| 16:30.15 | t_corr | is there *any* way to tell mount/fstab that a certain mount point should only be mountable by a certain user? |
| 16:30.30 | votan | manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct |
| 16:30.35 | votan | i get those a lot |
| 16:30.46 | votan | guess i should set the locale in locale.conf or something |
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| 16:31.28 | anoHito | simonrvn, whatever,but cp meets erros when trys to copy some files |
| 16:31.31 | jelly | votan: shift + keypad + |
| 16:31.47 | anoHito | cp: cannot stat `/media/usb/home/mysql/tanaka_bbs/cdb_postban_escapelog.MYD': Invalid argument |
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| 16:31.56 | votan | what is this keypad? |
| 16:31.59 | votan | never heard of it |
| 16:32.12 | jelly | votan: "keypad +" being the second key |
| 16:32.15 | anoHito | but some other users's mysql files have been copied succesfully,any idea ? |
| 16:32.25 | jelly | votan: numeric keypad + |
| 16:32.41 | votan | numlock? |
| 16:32.58 | jelly | votan: no, the plus key on the numeric keypad |
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| 16:33.18 | votan | that is not doing anything in rxvt |
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| 16:33.27 | jelly | works for me |
| 16:33.34 | votan | i get ???? |
| 16:33.43 | votan | question marks and such |
| 16:33.48 | jelly | (not in rxvt-unicode though, but it works in real rxvt) |
| 16:33.52 | agaran | anoHito: maybe broken file ? |
| 16:33.57 | votan | jelly: i have both |
| 16:34.01 | simonrvn | anoHito: did you stop the mysqld? |
| 16:34.11 | anoHito | simonrvn, no i did not. |
| 16:34.22 | simonrvn | *facepalm* |
| 16:34.28 | SerajewelKS | ZombieBoy: dunno then, sounds like your config is borked |
| 16:34.38 | jelly | simonrvn: have a beer! |
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| 16:34.42 | anoHito | simonrvn, i was doing it in the current server to copy that database which are in another HDD attached to the usb port. |
| 16:34.52 | simonrvn | has a smoke instead |
| 16:34.52 | ZombieBoy | SerajewelKS: I suppose. |
| 16:34.54 | anoHito | facepalm ? |
| 16:35.03 | jelly | whatever works |
| 16:35.08 | ZombieBoy | Although, I did a clean install from the latest testing snapshot... |
| 16:35.18 | anoHito | simonrvn, i do not understand. |
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| 16:35.51 | jelly | anoHito: he smacked his head after the user said he overwrote the database files while the database engine was online |
| 16:35.54 | simonrvn | forget it |
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| 16:36.02 | enouf | peels simonrvn 's palm from his face ;-) |
| 16:36.18 | anoHito | jelly, huh ? |
| 16:36.25 | simonrvn | forget it |
| 16:36.27 | anoHito | i was just runing a copy command. |
| 16:36.36 | enouf | !just |
| 16:36.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, just is one of the one you where talking about the BFG is. |
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| 16:36.36 | anoHito | but how about that error ? |
| 16:37.16 | simonrvn | stop. the. mysqld. *then*. cp. |
| 16:37.35 | enouf | dpkg: no, just is There is no just ; there is justice ; and you shall be served! |
| 16:37.35 | dpkg | enouf: okay |
| 16:37.39 | simonrvn | basic unix admin skills |
| 16:37.40 | anoHito | simonrvn, you mean, stop the current server's mysqld ? |
| 16:37.57 | simonrvn | think about it |
| 16:38.03 | anoHito | i dont get it,it is just a copy command, copy from another HDD to local HDD. |
| 16:38.06 | enouf | beats SerajewelKS and wins |
| 16:38.07 | anoHito | hmm. |
| 16:38.15 | simonrvn | s,unix,, |
| 16:38.26 | simonrvn | anoHito: think deeper |
| 16:38.32 | anoHito | simonrvn, or, i just compress that user's database folder,then do copy okay ? |
| 16:38.44 | anoHito | then i do not need to stop mysql. |
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| 16:38.49 | agaran | anoHito: he mean that you might damage something when overwriting files of running database, as engine might try *after* you change something write cache destroying newly copied data.. |
| 16:38.49 | maligor | what happens if the contents of a file changes when you copy it? |
| 16:38.59 | jelly | anoHito: are you copying directly into the place where mysql server is supposed to read the database files from? |
| 16:39.00 | anoHito | simonrvn, i mean,i was copying them to the local /root/ |
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| 16:39.08 | agaran | anoHito: you don't have to stop mysqld if you don't overwrite any files anyway |
| 16:39.13 | enouf | way to explain all that up front |
| 16:39.36 | simonrvn | anoHito: the server accesses those files all the time, you doing a cp without snapshotting the stuff is going to cause problems |
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| 16:39.57 | enouf | why not just cp -a /root/TRASH /usr or something silly like that - do NOT do that! |
| 16:40.06 | simonrvn | if a file changes in te meantime, you're going to get errors like that |
| 16:40.06 | anoHito | jelly, not at all, i am in /root/ to do the copy thing. |
| 16:40.13 | jelly | anoHito: all right then. |
| 16:40.26 | enouf | PWD/CWD doesn't matter |
| 16:40.27 | anoHito | jelly, the mysql files are in /home/mysql/database_names/ |
| 16:40.28 | jelly | anoHito: ignore the stopping mysql bit then |
| 16:40.36 | simonrvn | it doesn't matter where to you were copying |
| 16:40.45 | anoHito | okay,but how about those error messages ? |
| 16:40.47 | enouf | id, and whoami do however |
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| 16:41.27 | jelly | simonrvn: afaiui he was copying from usb stick/disk to /root; no touching of mysql files |
| 16:41.46 | enouf | detects a redmond minion in the midst |
| 16:42.24 | jelly | anoHito: did you get any errors in dmesg when that happened? |
| 16:42.44 | jelly | [18:31] <anoHito> cp: cannot stat `/media/usb/home/mysql/tanaka_bbs/cdb_postban_escapelog.MYD': Invalid argument |
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| 16:42.45 | anoHito | jelly, yes |
| 16:42.46 | JyZyXEL | how do you echo the bell character? |
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| 16:42.56 | jelly | anoHito: looks like filesystem issues. |
| 16:43.06 | anoHito | oh wait. |
| 16:43.22 | jelly | (or device issues, since it's usb connected) |
| 16:43.34 | ZombieBoy | SerajewelKS: I think I found what the problem could be: I had to install the xine backend for phonon. |
| 16:43.45 | jelly | JyZyXEL: echo -e '\a' |
| 16:43.46 | ZombieBoy | The gstreamer one didn't seem to work with kde as expected... |
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| 16:43.59 | anoHito | jelly |
| 16:44.04 | anoHito | Starting XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb3 (logdev: internal) |
| 16:44.04 | anoHito | XFS resetting qflags for filesystem sdb3 |
| 16:44.04 | anoHito | Ending XFS recovery on filesystem: sdb3 (logdev: internal) |
| 16:44.30 | anoHito | i found those newest 3 lines to be added in the end of the dmesg. |
| 16:44.45 | jelly | JyZyXEL: sorry, that would echo a newline character as well. Instead, echo -ne '\a' |
| 16:45.10 | jelly | anoHito: those look like mount-time notices. |
| 16:45.17 | anoHito | jelly, the datacentre forced to shutdown the server,then caused problems,then i had to replace HDD. |
| 16:45.21 | agaran | they *are* mount time |
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| 16:45.37 | anoHito | jelly, oh. |
| 16:45.47 | jelly | anoHito: I was asking about filesystem errors when cp complained |
| 16:45.47 | anoHito | keyword 'recovery' ? |
| 16:46.00 | anoHito | i think that recovery means repair something ? |
| 16:46.19 | anoHito | jelly, in dmesg,i do not find filesystem errors. |
| 16:46.25 | anoHito | but those 3 lines. |
| 16:46.41 | Polarina | anoHito: Then everything is all right. :) |
| 16:47.14 | jelly | anoHito: it means "the filesystem wasn't cleanly umounted and we have to replay the journal log"... which is expected for a machine that was powered off abruplty |
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| 16:48.02 | anoHito | jelly, did that mean it for the old hdd,or in the current machine ? |
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| 16:48.15 | JyZyXEL | jelly, how would pipe the bell character in a loop to netcat? |
| 16:48.23 | jelly | anoHito: you tell me! What is sdb3? |
| 16:48.36 | jelly | JyZyXEL: why? |
| 16:48.36 | JyZyXEL | like echo -ne '\a' | netcat bla.com 666 does it only once |
| 16:48.52 | anoHito | jelly, we have to replay the journal log ,we ? |
| 16:48.54 | jelly | what are you trying to do, JyZyXEL? |
| 16:49.06 | JyZyXEL | jelly, just send alot of bells |
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| 16:49.11 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: while true; do printf '\a'; done | netcat bla.com 666 to send it as fast as possible |
| 16:49.14 | jelly | anoHito: by "we" I meant the kernel |
| 16:49.19 | anoHito | jelly, you mean the current debian system was trying to do that on an attached HDD to it ? |
| 16:49.33 | \amethyst | as fast as bash can invoke printf anyway |
| 16:49.35 | anoHito | wow |
| 16:49.37 | jelly | anoHito: it's normal when mounting a filesystem |
| 16:49.44 | JyZyXEL | lol win |
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| 16:50.04 | anoHito | jelly, but cp meets that error , i should just ignore it ? |
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| 16:50.47 | jelly | anoHito: I have no idea. Was the file copied anyway? Is it the same size? |
| 16:50.58 | anoHito | i will try. |
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| 16:52.04 | agaran | md5sum source and target file |
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| 16:52.10 | agaran | and compare output |
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| 16:52.29 | agaran | or md5sum sourcefiles > sumsfile, then cp that file and md5sum -c sumsfile |
| 16:52.55 | justin | uh |
| 16:53.01 | justin | cmp sourcefile destfile |
| 16:53.21 | agaran | justin: too, i have habit to use md5.. |
| 16:53.29 | justin | if they are on the same system it is overkill |
| 16:53.33 | agaran | justin: often store sums file along with original files.. |
| 16:53.33 | justin | and cmp will give you better output |
| 16:53.47 | agaran | justin: if same machine then indeed its overkill |
| 16:53.49 | justin | if you are really that paranoid you should be using par2 |
| 16:55.10 | agaran | am not *that* paranoid, i never tried to make raid5 on usb flashes nor floppies.. really |
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| 17:00.26 | anoHito | how do i compress a folder without deleting the original files ? |
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| 17:01.45 | sneezewort | Is there a centralized management application for managing updates on several Debian machines? |
| 17:02.20 | agaran | anoHito: tar cz <pathtofiles/directories> | gzip -c > path-to-output.tar.gz |
| 17:02.49 | anoHito | agaran, Thank you. |
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| 17:04.33 | anoHito | agaran, it says tar: Removing leading `/' from member names |
| 17:04.48 | abrotman | sneezewort: puppet and cfengine |
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| 17:04.56 | abrotman | sneezewort: if i understood your question correctly |
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| 17:06.25 | agaran | anoHito: its harmless, it just informed that it stores pathes without starting / so they will be decompresed as relative to working directory while decompressing.. |
| 17:07.23 | anoHito | agaran, it means when decompress,the original construction and permissions will be kept ? |
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| 17:08.17 | agaran | anoHito: sure, only path will be relative to working directory, which might be easilly fixed as you may enter / when decompressing (either cd or tar option) or decompres anywhere and then move |
| 17:08.33 | agaran | anoHito: please read tar manual, most of such cases are described there |
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| 17:08.53 | anoHito | agaran, Thank you. |
| 17:09.06 | anoHito | they are mysql database datas. |
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| 17:25.28 | okmsfdaokmjf | Hello guys. I am facing the following problem and i am looking for suggestions :) . When i am running on Debian , domain names take a huge amount of time to resolve. If i load windows everything resolves fine and on normal times . Any ideas on what could possibly cause this problem on Debian ? Thank you . |
| 17:26.12 | Sir-Integra | Hey, i just changed the password of root, by booting upto into Knoppix and editing the shadow file (removing the shadow hash) i rebooted, now i'm getting the following error (check screenshot) http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=errordebian.jpg |
| 17:26.31 | abrotman | okmsfdaokmjf: where are you getting your dns servers from? and how do they compare ? |
| 17:26.58 | okmsfdaokmjf | i am using the same dns server on both situations . |
| 17:27.03 | okmsfdaokmjf | servers* |
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| 17:28.36 | Sir-Integra | anyone help me with my issue? i really don't want to reinstall debian, again. |
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| 17:30.09 | asdf | Sir-Integra: that does not look related to your root password |
| 17:30.25 | Sir-Integra | I know, it was after i removed the root password that happened. |
| 17:30.41 | asdf | did you tinker with /etc/fstab at all? |
| 17:30.44 | Sir-Integra | nope. |
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| 17:30.59 | Sir-Integra | All's i did was restart the system, since i forgot the rootpassword. |
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| 17:31.22 | SQlvpapir | what happened to aptitudes --with-suggests command? I'm trying to install pulseaudio with both recommends and suggests but -r only provides recommends - I'd really like the suggests to also be treated as a dependency! |
| 17:31.25 | jelly | Sir-Integra: are you positive /deb/sdb1 is the correct root filesystem? Do you have any other kernel versions to try booting? |
| 17:31.30 | asdf | Sir-Integra: well your error is completely unrelated to anythign having to do with a password |
| 17:31.45 | Sir-Integra | asdf, i know.. as i said, that was just the last thing i did. |
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| 17:32.23 | Sir-Integra | jelly, 100%, i haven't changed anything since i did. When i booted up into knoppix, /dev/sdb1 was the drive it mounted with the filesystem on. |
| 17:32.26 | asdf | Sir-Integra: right, so what i'm saying is to get over the fact that tinkering with your shadow file was the last thing you did |
| 17:32.43 | Sir-Integra | I don't have any other kernel versions to try booting, atleast i don't think i so. |
| 17:32.56 | asdf | Sir-Integra: reboot into knoppix and mount / and /boot and check etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.conf |
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| 17:33.13 | Sir-Integra | mount /dev/sdb1 ? |
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| 17:33.46 | asdf | Sir-Integra:mount root and boot, if they're not on the same partition |
| 17:33.54 | Sir-Integra | asdf, what would i be looking for in /etc/fstab? and grub.conf |
| 17:33.59 | Sir-Integra | they are, afaik |
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| 17:34.43 | asdf | Sir-Integra: paste your fstab an grub.conf (or menu.ls) to pastebin |
| 17:35.02 | Sir-Integra | hmm, i can't, i'm connecting over iLO (intergrated lights out) |
| 17:35.13 | Sir-Integra | i'll see if i can assign a network IP when i'm in knoppix |
| 17:36.09 | asdf | oh ilo... |
| 17:37.27 | Sir-Integra | yeah, i'm connecting over KVM-IP - so, that's how i attached the screenshots of the errors. |
| 17:38.28 | asdf | yeah i noticed your lovely ilo console :) |
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| 17:40.23 | jelly | mutters something about virtual serial console and iLO over ssh |
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| 17:41.36 | Sir-Integra | hmm |
| 17:41.57 | Sir-Integra | i can't seem to find where to edit the network in knoppix |
| 17:42.18 | asdf | ifconfig or dhclient |
| 17:42.26 | sylar | how do I find broken packages using synaptic? |
| 17:42.32 | sylar | I tried the filter |
| 17:42.42 | sylar | but what I selected didn't find |
| 17:43.00 | Sir-Integra | found it |
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| 17:48.09 | t_corr | hey is there a way to have unix permissions such that listing /home is not allowed, but you can access your home directory like normal? |
| 17:48.21 | t_corr | just take execute off? |
| 17:48.24 | fenh1r | LOL, i love linux! Watching tv on an ssh-console with acii-art ^^ |
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| 17:48.46 | greycat | t_corr: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions |
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| 17:49.16 | Sir-Integra | hmm |
| 17:49.28 | greycat | t_corr: if you don't want *other people* to be able to see your filenames, then the least-change answer is "chmod 751" |
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| 17:49.37 | Sir-Integra | i don't have grub.conf in /boot/grub/grub.conf |
| 17:50.09 | Sir-Integra | asdf : /boot/grub/grub.conf doesn't exist |
| 17:50.13 | Sir-Integra | which is weird oO |
| 17:50.21 | t_corr | greycat: i am setting up a chroot multi user environment and i was just wondering if it would be possible to make it impossible to 'ls' /home to see any other users on the system |
| 17:50.21 | jelly | Sir-Integra: "menu.lst" |
| 17:50.30 | Sir-Integra | ah, he wants the menu.lst |
| 17:50.36 | greycat | t_corr: oh, you meant /home. You could chmod 711 /home. |
| 17:51.10 | Sir-Integra | http://www.nopaste.com/p/aBasUCyhjb |
| 17:51.12 | Sir-Integra | menu.lst |
| 17:51.12 | t_corr | perfect thanks |
| 17:51.32 | greycat | t_corr: there are probably other ways to get that information though (/proc or ps(1) or passwd(5) or ...) |
| 17:51.33 | t_corr | unix permissions are something i've always "kinda" known but some things are vague still |
| 17:51.38 | t_corr | i'll read the document linked to |
| 17:52.02 | asdf | root (hd0,0) |
| 17:52.13 | Sir-Integra | http://www.nopaste.com/p/aWq8UKryrb/ |
| 17:52.16 | Sir-Integra | fstab |
| 17:52.27 | c459s | I've just added a user called "foobar". The user is in group 1000. When I do ps aux I see the processes that the user foobar is running as 1000 and not foobar. Why? |
| 17:52.29 | t_corr | greycat: proc is 700 in the chroot and ps or passwd are not available :) but i'm sure there is still a way around it |
| 17:52.33 | asdf | is this or is this not the first disk on the controller |
| 17:52.44 | t_corr | this isnt meant to be foolproof, just hard enough to make it not worth anyone's while |
| 17:52.53 | jelly | Sir-Integra: it's interesting that grub (ie BIOS) is configured to think your root is on first disk (hd0), but linux thinks it sdb (second disk) |
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| 17:53.21 | greycat | c459s: "ps aux" does not show process group privileges. Just "username". |
| 17:53.23 | jelly | Sir-Integra: are you positive this is correct? |
| 17:53.30 | Sir-Integra | I'm not entirely sure. |
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| 17:53.59 | jelly | Sir-Integra: can you pastebin dmesg from Knoppix? |
| 17:54.01 | greycat | c459s: what does "id foobar" say? How about "getent passwd foobar"? |
| 17:54.03 | c459s | greycat: Exactly, and that is why I expected to see 'foobar' and not '1000' for the services that this user is running. |
| 17:54.05 | Sir-Integra | sure |
| 17:54.18 | greycat | c459s: so the fact that you added it to "group 1000" is totally irrelevant to the question? |
| 17:55.09 | c459s | graycat: uid=1000(foobar) gid=1000(foobar) groups=1000(foobar) |
| 17:55.33 | Sir-Integra | hmm, no content when uploading it, sec. |
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| 17:56.06 | greycat | c459s: if you "chown foobar" a file and then "ls -l" that file, does it show foobar, or 1000? |
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| 17:57.58 | c459s | greycat: says foobar then. |
| 17:58.10 | greycat | c459s: so your "ps" command has been altered in some way? |
| 17:58.14 | greycat | It's not standard Debian? |
| 17:58.43 | c459s | I think its supposed to be standard. I'm running on a vps server with lenny 5. |
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| 17:58.59 | greycat | is /proc mounted? |
| 17:59.02 | jelly | greycat: his real user/group name might not be foobar, but something > 8 characters, in which case ps shows numbers |
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| 17:59.09 | greycat | jelly: tricky. |
| 17:59.44 | jelly | c459s: is the user and group name really "foobar", or are you helpfully munging it for irc? |
| 17:59.46 | anoHito | with shutdown -P -h now will compeltely shutdown the server with power off ? |
| 18:00.04 | greycat | I've been assuming it's munged based on how damned LONG it takes him to respond. |
| 18:00.11 | Sir-Integra | http://www.nopaste.com/p/avfZnk0Tk |
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| 18:00.39 | c459s | Jelly, you are right. |
| 18:00.45 | c459s | Greycat: I'm sorry :/ |
| 18:00.54 | jelly | there should be something like "DO NOT MUNGE PASTES" in the topic |
| 18:01.14 | greycat | jelly: I have something like that on my NetEtiquette page. |
| 18:01.22 | jelly | noone cares about your precious usernames! |
| 18:01.35 | greycat | That guy who wants to hide the contents of /home cares. |
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| 18:01.40 | jelly | or domains, or email addresses |
| 18:02.00 | c459s | Lesson learned. Thanks. |
| 18:02.11 | xerophyte | does anybody know any really good ajax based webmail client? |
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| 18:02.37 | Sir-Integra | Jelly that's my dmesg http://www.nopaste.com/p/avfZnk0Tk |
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| 18:02.50 | jelly | tbh I first found out about it when something from debian added a user like Debian-exim:x:112:112::/var/spool/exim4:/bin/false |
| 18:03.04 | jelly | or "haldaemon" |
| 18:03.06 | greycat | I didn't know Debian's ps was crippled in that manner myself. |
| 18:03.16 | jelly | it's upstream afaiui |
| 18:03.23 | greycat | ok, fair enough |
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| 18:03.53 | greycat | 20 years of unix has drilled "USER NAMES ARE 8 CHARACTERS MAXIMUM" into my head for so long... |
| 18:03.53 | anoHito | i run mysqldump -u uname -p dbname > yourfile.sql , what do i do to make the sql file to be compressed at the same time ? |
| 18:04.05 | lunk | xerophyte: gmail |
| 18:04.25 | jelly | Sir-Integra: looks like you only have sda now, and should adjust menu.lst and probably /etc/fstab accoridingly |
| 18:04.33 | Sir-Integra | hm |
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| 18:05.06 | Sir-Integra | so, i change what? (sorry, not really completely familiar) |
| 18:05.26 | greycat | anoHito: mysqldump ... | gzip > yourfile.sql.gz |
| 18:05.36 | jelly | Sir-Integra: basically replace all occurences of /dev/sdb with /dev/sda in menu.lst and /etc/fstab |
| 18:05.54 | Sir-Integra | okay |
| 18:06.22 | Sir-Integra | only the /dev/sdb part? not example /dev/sdb1 to /dev/sda |
| 18:07.52 | Sir-Integra | so i changed /dev/sdb1 to /dev/sda1 ? |
| 18:07.52 | jelly | right |
| 18:07.53 | Sir-Integra | got it |
| 18:07.53 | jelly | Sir-Integra: that's for grub, fstab might or might not need fixing too |
| 18:07.53 | anoHito | greycat, the file name can be yourfile.gz also ? |
| 18:07.53 | SerajewelKS | oh nifty, i got php to segfault |
| 18:07.53 | greycat | it can be anything you like |
| 18:07.59 | Sir-Integra | ya, fstab i changed too. |
| 18:08.07 | Sir-Integra | floppy was sda in fstab for some reason |
| 18:08.08 | anoHito | so that mysqldump -u root -p database_name | gzip > database.gz ? |
| 18:08.11 | Sir-Integra | i changed that to sdb |
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| 18:08.37 | jelly | Sir-Integra: usb floppy? |
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| 18:08.57 | war9407 | Is it just me or is KDE 4.X in testing like 2-3x slower than KDE3? Time to switch to XFCE/Gnome, COmments!? |
| 18:09.10 | jelly | !? |
| 18:09.16 | Sir-Integra | Jelly, it just said floppy. |
| 18:09.53 | Sir-Integra | /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 18:09.54 | Sir-Integra | /dev/sda /media/floppy1 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 18:09.57 | jelly | Sir-Integra: I mean, do you actually have a floppy device and if you do is it connected via usb |
| 18:10.03 | Sir-Integra | changed /dev/sda to /dev/sdb |
| 18:10.14 | Sir-Integra | I'm not sure lol, i never built the machine, heh. |
| 18:10.24 | Sir-Integra | I think it's psyhical |
| 18:10.31 | jelly | Sir-Integra: that won't hurt, but it's probably better to comment it out |
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| 18:10.40 | Sir-Integra | alright, well i edited and rebooted |
| 18:10.44 | Sir-Integra | lets see if it works |
| 18:11.45 | Sir-Integra | woooooo |
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| 18:11.55 | Sir-Integra | thanks so much jelly |
| 18:11.55 | cizra | Hi. Any ideas, why my 1.5G memory is show in free -m as Mem: 884? |
| 18:12.28 | jelly | cizra: you're still running the installer -486 kernel, probably. What does `uname -r` command say? |
| 18:12.43 | cizra | 2.6.28 |
| 18:12.56 | stew | cizra: you compiled the kernel yourself? |
| 18:12.56 | jelly | cizra: that's all it says? |
| 18:13.05 | cizra | yes for both |
| 18:13.16 | jelly | your kernel config sucks? |
| 18:13.28 | cizra | Prolly. What's the option I should fix/ |
| 18:13.28 | cizra | ? |
| 18:13.41 | greycat | The one about using more than 1 GB of memory. |
| 18:13.59 | SQlvpapir | its in the "basic" section.. top shelf |
| 18:14.02 | Myth` | Where is iptables located in lenny? |
| 18:14.04 | jelly | cizra: search for HIGHMEM4G |
| 18:14.19 | greycat | Myth`: in main. |
| 18:14.20 | cizra | # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set |
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| 18:14.26 | cizra | jelly: Thanks! |
| 18:14.34 | jelly | yay menuconfig has search function now |
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| 18:14.49 | cizra | *sigh* I'll probably hose my kernel now, but I'll try it anyway. |
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| 18:15.05 | jelly | Myth`: package is called... "iptables", not in base system so you might have to install it |
| 18:16.06 | Myth` | jelly: I have it, but I want to use vim to have a look at which ports are open. |
| 18:16.27 | jelly | Myth`: I do not understand. |
| 18:16.39 | greycat | Myth`: If you didn't DO anything with it, there are no restrictions. |
| 18:16.49 | war9407 | anyone here running kde4 in testing? |
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| 18:16.57 | Myth` | greycat: And if I wanted to close some ports? |
| 18:17.32 | abrotman | war9407: ask your real question |
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| 18:17.44 | jelly | probably <war9407> Is it just me or is KDE 4.X in testing like 2-3x slower than KDE3? Time to switch to XFCE/Gnome, COmments!? |
| 18:17.44 | greycat | Myth`: #iptables will help you figure out the commands. Once you know the commands, and have got them actually running, you can use iptables-save to dump them to a file. Then you can use iptables-restore in a pre-up command in interfaces(5). |
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| 18:18.58 | Myth` | greycat: Gotchya, I'm coming from centos5, probably a pre-up command to load it every restart from a file or something. Thanks |
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| 18:20.04 | greycat | dpkg's "iptables" factoid points to http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 which gives a completely different recipe. |
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| 18:20.56 | Myth` | greycat: Thanks, still very new to linux. |
| 18:21.20 | greycat | I think the "proper debian-way" changes every year or two. |
| 18:21.26 | jelly | Myth`: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables shows one way to do it |
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| 18:22.11 | greycat | that one's similar to mine |
| 18:22.13 | jelly | would rather only start those with the default gw interface, not for every ifup, but... |
| 18:22.17 | anoHito | greycat, please help me ! iam now in the dying HDD to do mysqldump to try to get datas.but it says mysqldump: Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) when trying to connect |
| 18:22.27 | anoHito | greycat, the mysql is running and i can log in it no problem as root. |
| 18:22.29 | safruhani | i couldn't use keypad, dropbox, audacious after upgrading from 8.10 to 9.4, has anyone face to the same problems also? |
| 18:22.38 | cizra | jelly:, stew: thanks! |
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| 18:22.40 | jelly | safruhani: #ubuntu is the place to ask |
| 18:22.43 | greycat | anoHito: then do your mysqldump as root. |
| 18:22.49 | safruhani | oh i'm sorry |
| 18:22.52 | seniorake | using top to display the memory usage, one can press F and then S, to display this, true? |
| 18:22.52 | anoHito | greycat, i did |
| 18:22.57 | Myth` | jelly: Thanks, I'll have a look at that. |
| 18:22.57 | creature_ | is there any point having a gigabit NIC in a machine with only 1 GHz CPU? |
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| 18:23.08 | greycat | anoHito: then ask #mysql what that error means. |
| 18:23.14 | seniorake | top shops me 212MB for an application - but only 0.8% RAM usage, how can that be? i have only 1GB of ram |
| 18:23.21 | stew | creature_: certainly |
| 18:23.35 | greycat | creature_: a decent NIC would offload most of the work from the CPU. |
| 18:23.51 | creature_ | i've got the Intel gigabit nics |
| 18:24.08 | stew | those are certainly in the 'decent or better' category |
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| 18:24.21 | stew | and even if you don't have a decent nic, 1gz is plenty fast |
| 18:24.26 | Myth` | Because all ports are open by default and I still can't establish an ftp connection from another system on the same network it must be a permissions error. I'm using vsftpd. The username is NOT in /etc/ftpusers. And in /etc/passwd it's set as /bin/bash. Does that sound about right? |
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| 18:24.43 | greycat | Myth`: what does "ftp localhost" give you? |
| 18:25.02 | greycat | And what does "can't establish an ftp connection" mean *exactly*? |
| 18:25.07 | Myth` | greycat:Logged me in fine. |
| 18:25.20 | Myth` | greycat: Permission denied error. |
| 18:25.31 | greycat | If "ftp localhost" worked, then the next step is "ftp that.ip.addr.ess" from another ***UNIX*** (not Windows) machine on the same network. |
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| 18:25.46 | greycat | if you still get the FTP login prompt, then it is not a firewall issue on the LAN. |
| 18:25.46 | Myth` | greycat: I'm logged in as root though, not the user I'm trying to FTP with. |
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| 18:25.57 | greycat | Myth`: are you getting the FTP login prompt? |
| 18:26.08 | anoHito | how can i export mysqldatas please |
| 18:26.11 | Myth` | greycat: Seemed to have logged me right in with no prompt. |
| 18:26.22 | anoHito | mysqldump cannot connect it says. |
| 18:26.22 | agaran | anoHito: export? |
| 18:26.25 | greycat | What, you have a .netrc file with your password in it? |
| 18:26.38 | agaran | anoHito: what exactly mysql dump says? |
| 18:26.39 | Myth` | greycat: I lied, it was a prompt. My eyes are bad./ |
| 18:26.48 | anoHito | agaran, pls tell me the command please, i am in the dying HDD now. |
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| 18:26.56 | Myth` | greycat: I was able to login to that user with no issues. |
| 18:27.01 | anoHito | agaran, mysqldump: Got error: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket ' /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) when trying to connect |
| 18:27.24 | greycat | Myth`: then there's no firewall issue from wherever you logged in from. |
| 18:27.24 | epsas | anoHito - you will need to start mysqld |
| 18:27.26 | anoHito | agaran, i can log in mysql as root no problem,and i was running mysqldump as root too. |
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| 18:27.38 | anoHito | epsas, it is started or i cannot log in mysql. |
| 18:29.05 | Myth` | greycat: Interesting, connecting from localhost works fine. Connecting to the lan address works fine. But connecting from WAN echoes 220 Microsoft FTP Service - Strange, because centos didn't have any issues. |
| 18:29.06 | greycat | anoHito: if you are trying to say "mysql(1) works but mysqldump(1) gives this error: ...." then ask #mysql for help. |
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| 18:29.34 | greycat | Myth`: looks like a firewall (proxy) intercepting incoming FTP. |
| 18:29.45 | anoHito | ok |
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| 18:33.14 | dihymo | if an swf loads an flv from a different server than the host of the swf does it go flv.server to swf.host to browser or just flv.server to browser |
| 18:33.50 | greycat | ... was there a Debian question in there somewhere? |
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| 18:34.32 | dihymo | i don't quite know where to ask and i figured this is a pretty well informed channel |
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| 18:36.11 | earthian | Hello, is it safe to do this upgrade: http://pastebin.com/d1bf6f5b6 ? It is from up-to-date etch to current lenny. There will be nobody at the box if something goes wrong :S |
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| 18:36.57 | jpinx-eeepc | dihymo: it goes direct |
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| 18:37.31 | shardz_ | guys, how do i disable the pasword prompt every time my screen goes into energy save mode>? |
| 18:37.54 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell earthabout etch->lenny |
| 18:38.03 | jpinx-eeepc | oops |
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| 18:38.10 | earthian | ok thanks jpinx-eeepc :) |
| 18:38.11 | adama_ | earthian: don't do that |
| 18:38.19 | earthian | adama_: why? |
| 18:38.25 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell earthianabout etch->lenny |
| 18:38.30 | adama_ | nm, I mean the thing you pasted, don't do it |
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| 18:38.38 | jpinx-eeepc | :-/ |
| 18:38.43 | earthian | jpinx-eeepc: i did that myself now. thanks :) |
| 18:38.46 | adama_ | follow the directions dpkg will eventually tell you ;) |
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| 18:39.00 | earthian | kk |
| 18:39.11 | jpinx-eeepc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.11 | dpkg | jpinx-eeepc: no idea |
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| 18:39.51 | earthian | ok. thanks :) |
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| 18:48.46 | maginot | good afternoon. Cups uses /usr/bin/lp to print ? |
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| 18:50.44 | gihan | hello, any one know Debian repository for DKMS? |
| 18:51.08 | greycat | maginot: it has lp (SysV) and lpr (BSD) style client interfaces. |
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| 18:51.43 | shardz_ | guys, how do i disable the password prompt every time my screen goes into energy save mode>? |
| 18:52.18 | jelly | shardz_: configure your screensaver not to lock the screen |
| 18:52.41 | greycat | It'll probably depend on which screensaver it is |
| 18:53.00 | shardz_ | just a blank sceensaver but he is right |
| 18:53.05 | shardz_ | ty, im stoopid |
| 18:53.06 | jelly | shardz_: it might be xscreensaver-command -prefs, or it might be some Gnome or KDE specific way to configure it |
| 18:53.15 | shardz_ | looks like the gnome one |
| 18:53.18 | maginot | greycat, well, good you point that, cause I read about this, but Im trying to make a wrapper for lp, and when I print some pdf from evince its seens to ignore /usr/bin/lp or /usr/bin/lpr I'm saying that because just to be sure I renamed both binaries and still Im able to print from evince... what I thought very weird |
| 18:53.21 | shardz_ | we shall wait and see |
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| 18:53.28 | Polarina | shardz_: Just disable the screensaver. |
| 18:53.43 | jelly | Polarina: that's not what the user asked for, though |
| 18:53.50 | greycat | maginot: if you can't figure it out, try ##cups |
| 18:53.58 | shardz_ | i want power savings, its a laptop |
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| 18:54.09 | shardz_ | guess i could just do it like that htough |
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| 18:55.30 | maginot | greycat, no, there its like talking to nobody, Im trying to get help there since a long time, and not even one answer... sorry but I have to say that #cups support its zero |
| 18:55.34 | Polarina | shardz_: System -> Preferences -> Power Management, that can shut down the monitor, not just make it project black colour (more power saving). |
| 18:56.00 | greycat | ##cups not #cups |
| 18:56.02 | shardz_ | yup |
| 18:56.15 | shardz_ | got it after i heard the word screen saver, lol |
| 18:56.55 | maginot | greycat, yeah yeah, ##cups... Im there right now and its beeng almost 3 hours when I made a question... without saying about other days |
| 18:57.07 | greycat | sorry to hear it |
| 18:57.12 | maginot | well, me too |
| 18:57.14 | maginot | =/ |
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| 19:15.08 | Myth` | Do I need LibDBXX for pam to work? |
| 19:16.12 | enouf | waht? |
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| 19:16.50 | enouf | you might want to peer into your enigma |
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| 19:17.42 | Myth` | enouf: Hoaw do eye setz up vertuel ftp uzerz in debianz? |
| 19:17.52 | enouf | ... |
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| 19:18.14 | Gun_Smoke | wow... |
| 19:18.27 | enouf | you can't make shit up like that |
| 19:19.10 | enouf | and .. it's not a language barrier issue either |
| 19:19.41 | greycat | Is it Sunday already? |
| 19:19.50 | Supaplex | permasunday? |
| 19:19.57 | enouf | might as well be - heh |
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| 19:19.57 | Supaplex | !panic |
| 19:19.57 | dpkg | somebody said panic was STAY CALM DAMMIT! |
| 19:20.09 | enouf | !enouf |
| 19:20.09 | dpkg | Cut it out! |
| 19:20.10 | Supaplex | haha. we <3 you dpkg. |
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| 19:22.07 | greymalkin | Interesting, anyone know why bind returns 1 when binding to a unix domain socket? |
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| 19:22.42 | format_c | greymalkin, any error message in syslog? |
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| 19:23.40 | greymalkin | format_c: No, and the bind was successful (not -1, and clients can connect) |
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| 19:24.07 | greymalkin | I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't accidentally changed an if( r < 0 ) to an if( r ). |
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| 19:24.32 | greymalkin | manpage just says 0 or -1 w/ errno. |
| 19:24.44 | enouf | unix domain socket? |
| 19:24.48 | [`HektoR`] | hi all.guys can anyone give good debian book ? |
| 19:24.56 | enouf | !books |
| 19:24.56 | dpkg | i heard books is http://www.debian.org/doc/books |
| 19:25.08 | greycat | The lenny man page for bind(2) says it should return 0 for success. Maybe you found a bug, either in your program, or in the libc. |
| 19:25.27 | enouf | the debian-reference is valuable as well |
| 19:25.48 | greymalkin | enouf: Yeah, PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM. |
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| 19:26.40 | enouf | alrighty then .. i think differently ..and/or don't comprehenend - i'll shutup |
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| 19:26.53 | greymalkin | enouf: Like TCP socket but tied to the filesystem, lacking the TCP overhead, and more feature-full. |
| 19:26.59 | greymalkin | enouf: DBus uses it. |
| 19:27.01 | enouf | heh '...henend' |
| 19:27.08 | enouf | ewww |
| 19:27.34 | greycat | "unix domain sockets" are single-host-only interprocess communications. It's what X uses (why you can have "-nolisten tcp" and still have a working X). |
| 19:27.37 | gihan | when i run dkms build -m kernel_ppp_mppe -v 1.0.2 it gives me a error [Error! Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.28.4-xxxx-std-ipv4-32-mod cannot be found at |
| 19:27.37 | gihan | You can use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located. |
| 19:27.37 | gihan | ] |
| 19:27.55 | enouf | greycat: nice one .. truly |
| 19:28.23 | enouf | messagebus crap --> freedesktop.org and bloated DEs .. |
| 19:28.25 | gihan | how can i specify kernel source with dkms build -m kernel_ppp_mppe -v 1.0.2 command? |
| 19:28.43 | enouf | goes away before i upset the general population |
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| 19:35.06 | Dassu | :| |
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| 19:41.35 | G69 | Good Night / Boa Noite! |
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| 19:46.53 | Supaplex | !tell G69 -about away |
| 19:47.25 | wicket | I wanna know about away too |
| 19:47.31 | wicket | !tell wicket -about away |
| 19:47.52 | Supaplex | !tell wicket -about selftell |
| 19:48.20 | wicket | I got told :( |
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| 19:48.33 | Supaplex | heh. yeah I guess you did. |
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| 19:54.50 | jelly-home | !ops [s]baby onjoin spam |
| 19:54.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly-home complains about: [s]baby onjoin spam |
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| 19:55.24 | greycat | I suspect that list of ops could use a bit of a touch-up. |
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| 19:55.46 | Supaplex | perhaps. |
| 19:55.54 | tomaw | sees no onjoin spam |
| 19:55.55 | WastePotato | tomaw: Get it? |
| 19:56.00 | WastePotato | Wat. |
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| 19:56.14 | jelly-home | dpkg, factinfo cmd: ops (.*?) |
| 19:56.15 | dpkg | cmd: ops (.*?) -- created by streuner <i=foobar@p54A5D6E8.dip.t-dialin.net> at Thu Aug 25 21:42:11 2005 (1363 days); it has been requested 2282 times, last by jelly-home, 1m 24s ago. |
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| 19:56.28 | LoRez | holy crap that's old |
| 19:56.33 | justin | dpkg: seen bob2 |
| 19:56.34 | dpkg | justin: i haven't seen 'bob2' |
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| 19:56.50 | jelly-home | there's no mtime with factinfo |
| 19:57.06 | justin | theres no ctime either |
| 19:57.09 | WastePotato | tomaw: That's odd, seeing as it was from the the same channel, and the same spam. |
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| 19:57.26 | nkuttler | !factinfo ops |
| 19:57.26 | dpkg | ops -- last modified at Mon Aug 6 18:47:12 2007 by Maulkin!~maulkin@maulkin.netrep.oftc.net; it has been requested 130 times, last by kapal at Wed May 13 03:22:52 2009. |
| 19:57.36 | Supaplex | ctime == "created by" streuner <i=foobar@p54A5D6E8.dip.t-dialin.net> "at ..." |
| 19:57.53 | greycat | "ctime" in unix does not mean file creation though. |
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| 19:57.59 | jelly-home | Supaplex: ctime isn't creation time |
| 19:58.05 | jelly-home | heh. |
| 19:58.06 | greycat | What it means in blootbot, I can't say. |
| 19:58.08 | Supaplex | !ctime |
| 19:58.08 | dpkg | UNIX does *not* store the creation time of files. Anywhere. At all. Ever. You can't get it. You see that "ctime" field in the stat structure? It's not "creation time". It's inode (metadata) change time. It gets updated when you chmod the file, etc. |
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| 19:58.49 | greycat | waits for some Linux kiddie to point out some Linux file system that stores creation times. |
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| 19:59.19 | jelly-home | tomaw: [21:42] <[s]baby> http://www.[censored].tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 19:59.24 | Supaplex | I can be wrong once in a while. no biggie. |
| 19:59.24 | WastePotato | jelly-home: Same. |
| 19:59.31 | tomaw | jelly-home: it's not doing it now |
| 19:59.44 | jelly-home | perhaps they're ignoring you and a2 |
| 19:59.54 | tomaw | it's not doing it to my other clients either |
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| 20:00.29 | tomaw | is it still doing it when you join? |
| 20:00.36 | greycat | Not yet. |
| 20:00.38 | WastePotato | nOPE. |
| 20:00.41 | WastePotato | Bah. |
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| 20:00.55 | WastePotato | It seems to be doing it at random times. |
| 20:01.01 | tomaw | it's perhaps got disconnected and just hasn't realized yet. |
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| 20:05.15 | tomaw | just very lagged then |
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| 20:07.33 | Entmoot | hi fellas!! |
| 20:07.43 | anoHito | can i ask, when i connect a HDD by using a convert to connect to the server's usb port, it can be accessed no problem,so in this matter,the attached HDD is running or what ? |
| 20:07.48 | anoHito | i am curious |
| 20:08.00 | anoHito | if it is not runnning ,how come it can be accessed ? |
| 20:08.11 | justin | anoHito: what do you mean by "running"? |
| 20:08.34 | Supaplex | maybe it's just walking... |
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| 20:08.41 | anoHito | justin, running...when a HDD is running in a machine, we can hear the noise ,meantime it will genereate heat. |
| 20:08.43 | anoHito | and etc. |
| 20:08.47 | greycat | When you connect a USB storage device to the Debian system, the kernel (or some daemon) sees the device being plugged in, loads whatever driver module it needs, and then recognizes the device henceforth. |
| 20:08.54 | requia | I have a 1U server with Debian installed and I plugged in the ethernet cord, but there is no connection to the internet. From "ifconfig" I get eth1, eth0_rename and lo |
| 20:09.04 | greycat | So something like "sdb" will become available. |
| 20:09.14 | Entmoot | any samba experts in here? I can see my shares but samba wants login and passwd... both my normal system user or root accounts wont work with passwords.. what am I doing wrong? |
| 20:09.20 | Supaplex | I think he wants to use power saving |
| 20:09.26 | justin | Entmoot: run smbpasswd ? |
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| 20:10.35 | _osiris | after upgrading from etch to lenny I now get this error when starting dansguardian: http://www.pastebin.ca/1429142 |
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| 20:11.30 | Entmoot | justin: sure... is samba using a default username and passwd? |
| 20:11.32 | _osiris | any thaughts how to get dansguardian running again after upgrading to lenny? I would prefer not to purge dansguardian and install it again and I struggled a bit to get dansguardian to only do antivirus not check content |
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| 20:13.19 | Entmoot | justin: Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE |
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| 20:13.37 | lirtex | Hi, If I want to compile a debian kernel, should I install linux-source or linux-tree? I don't understand the difference. |
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| 20:14.22 | ZitZ | linux source is what you want |
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| 20:14.32 | mib_qwc81b5a | Hi |
| 20:14.37 | ZitZ | hi |
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| 20:15.03 | justin | Entmoot: no, samba uses the password that you set |
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| 20:16.28 | mib_qwc81b5a | Sorry for my english i'm french. I have a question : how to add user with the charactere "+" ? |
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| 20:17.03 | greycat | Don't. |
| 20:17.05 | justin | mib_qwc81b5a: why do you want to do such a thing? |
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| 20:17.56 | Entmoot | justin: but.. it asks for old passwd... and I havent set one before |
| 20:18.03 | justin | Entmoot: run it as root |
| 20:18.04 | requia | I have a 1U server with Debian installed and I plugged in the ethernet cord, but there is no connection to the internet. From "ifconfig" I get eth1, eth0_rename and lo |
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| 20:18.33 | justin | requia: /msg dpkg z25 |
| 20:18.42 | justin | requia: your udev config seems messed up |
| 20:18.57 | mib_qwc81b5a | I have an server FTP under windows and i want migrate this one under Debian, and i want keeping same login |
| 20:19.06 | [1]flat | Hi |
| 20:19.07 | Entmoot | justin: and user is then root + new passwd? |
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| 20:19.27 | greycat | mib_qwc81b5a: perhaps you should use some FTP server that has its own password database separate from the Unix accounts. Maybe. |
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| 20:20.18 | mib_qwc81b5a | I have used Proftpd |
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| 20:20.53 | mib_qwc81b5a | What FTP Server ? |
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| 20:21.13 | greycat | You could ask #proftpd for help if you can't find it in the manual. |
| 20:21.28 | greycat | I have no idea which FTP servers have their own private user databases and which don't. |
| 20:21.28 | mib_qwc81b5a | Thanks :) |
| 20:21.36 | greycat | As far as I'm concerned they all need to die. |
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| 20:23.42 | justin | Entmoot: huh? |
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| 20:26.04 | Myth` | greycat: Why do you say that? |
| 20:26.15 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie |
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| 20:27.33 | anoHito | strange |
| 20:27.37 | anoHito | i use cp -a |
| 20:27.55 | anoHito | before its finished, i terminate it in screen |
| 20:28.03 | anoHito | i check the files permission, strrange |
| 20:28.15 | anoHito | 1033 1033 ? |
| 20:28.28 | anoHito | ls -l ,tells all files are 1033 1033 |
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| 20:28.44 | anoHito | ownership and group are all 1033 ? |
| 20:29.02 | kanonmat | what should there be in place of ftp? |
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| 20:29.27 | greycat | anoHito: then 1033 does not map to a username in whatever databases your system is using for user ID lookups |
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| 20:29.41 | kanonmat | i use ftp repos :O |
| 20:29.51 | etb | anyone knows of a sd card data recovery program? |
| 20:30.06 | anoHito | greycat, i check the original permission of that account,same 1033,strange |
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| 20:30.47 | Entmoot | justin: whats the username for the pass I set when running smbpasswd as root? |
| 20:30.47 | greycat | anoHito: does your system use /etc/passwd exclusively for account information? |
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| 20:31.01 | anoHito | greycat, also i try to check other account permisson in that hdd which is attched to the usb port, all are numbers |
| 20:31.02 | justin | Entmoot: no, run smbpassword $user as root |
| 20:31.04 | kanonmat | etb, foremost is a recovery app, idk if it has special sd abilities |
| 20:31.10 | anoHito | such like 1055 1033 |
| 20:31.31 | greycat | anoHito: does the number 1033 *APPEAR* in /etc/passwd at all? |
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| 20:31.50 | Entmoot | justin: yes.. I've done that.. and set a password... but whats the username for that when promted browsing the network? |
| 20:31.56 | justin | Entmoot: $user |
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| 20:33.18 | seed95 | I am having troubles when apt-get -f install : "dpkg: error processing fam (--configure):" |
| 20:33.22 | anoHito | greycat, no |
| 20:33.27 | greycat | anoHito: that's why. |
| 20:33.30 | anoHito | greycat, 1033 is not there. |
| 20:33.45 | anoHito | what could be the cause ? |
| 20:33.53 | greycat | anoHito: You just told me the cause. |
| 20:33.58 | greycat | anoHito: you do not have a user with that UID. |
| 20:34.36 | anoHito | greycat, hmmm, can i edit passwd to add it ? |
| 20:35.06 | greycat | What are you really trying to do? |
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| 20:35.17 | Entmoot | justin: strange.. just wont work when I put in loginname "user" and that password :( |
| 20:35.39 | justin | Entmoot: did you touch the samba config? |
| 20:36.19 | Entmoot | justin: not at all... added the 3 folders.. which I can see now... just the user and passwd that is the problem |
| 20:36.32 | Entmoot | justin: can it be some setting? |
| 20:36.39 | anoHito | greycat, i am trying to copy that users files to the current server. |
| 20:36.47 | justin | Entmoot: no, the default samba config works just fine |
| 20:36.56 | greycat | anoHito: so copy them. |
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| 20:37.08 | justin | Entmoot: what happens when you do smbclient //server/$user ? |
| 20:37.09 | anoHito | greycat, okay. |
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| 20:37.26 | anoHito | greycat, Thanks, i gotta go to bed, have a good day. |
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| 20:38.07 | Entmoot | justin: nothing... new line.. cursor blinks ready |
| 20:38.32 | greycat | justin: did you mean $USER? |
| 20:38.40 | justin | ugh |
| 20:38.52 | justin | Entmoot: you're not typing literally $user, are you? |
| 20:38.53 | Entmoot | justin: did I just add the user "user" now? |
| 20:39.27 | Entmoot | justin: I did both... user and my normal system username |
| 20:39.43 | Entmoot | smbclient //server/$xxx |
| 20:39.49 | justin | ugh |
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| 20:40.22 | justin | smbclient //user/entmoot |
| 20:40.29 | justin | # smbpasswd entmoot |
| 20:41.06 | Entmoot | so it takes the system name as user? |
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| 20:41.37 | justin | Entmoot: oook, lets run through a HYPOTHEITCAL situation here |
| 20:41.49 | justin | Entmoot: you want to LOGIN to this COMPUTER of yours |
| 20:41.57 | justin | Entmoot: what do YOU type at the login: prompt? |
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| 20:42.20 | Entmoot | justin: my username... from /home/xxxx |
| 20:42.31 | greycat | Why the fuck can't you just say what the username is? |
| 20:42.44 | Entmoot | justin: my username... from /home/madsen |
| 20:42.46 | Entmoot | :) |
| 20:42.48 | justin | great |
| 20:43.01 | justin | run as root smbpasswd madsen |
| 20:43.17 | justin | then smbclient //yourbox/madsen should get you right in |
| 20:43.22 | kanonmat | !test |
| 20:43.22 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 20:43.25 | kanonmat | ty |
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| 20:46.08 | etb | dd: reading `/dev/mmcblk0p1': Input/output error |
| 20:46.08 | etb | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.47 | Entmoot | justin: holy s... it works... THNX A LOT.... I appreciate it.... |
| 20:47.08 | Entmoot | I love U guys in here :) |
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| 20:49.19 | justin | Entmoot: heh, like I said.. the default samba config works just fine |
| 20:49.28 | greycat | justin: in the future, I suggest using $USER so they can literally paste it. |
| 20:49.29 | Entmoot | have a great day all of you :-) |
| 20:49.40 | justin | if anything you have to add writable yes, but that may be the default now |
| 20:49.43 | Entmoot | justin: yearh... You rock.. im just new to samba |
| 20:49.51 | justin | greycat: that won't help if he needs to run it as root and hes not using sudo |
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| 20:50.05 | greycat | true |
| 20:50.17 | Entmoot | thanks again.. ! |
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| 20:51.17 | jimi_hendrix | hi, i have a question on .debs.... 1) are they tarballs or do they use some other compression method? 2) if i wanted to get the info on a package, does it unpack it and read the config file for the .deb or does it do it some other way? |
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| 21:02.29 | bookmark | how D!!!!! |
| 21:02.38 | bookmark | ustedes |
| 21:03.25 | bookmark | is everyone good? |
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| 21:05.04 | bookmark | when did debian become 2.6 gigabytes with desktop? |
| 21:05.05 | bookmark | jeez |
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| 21:05.18 | bookmark | it used to be lik 900megs |
| 21:05.27 | wicket | netinstall is the way to go. |
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| 21:05.56 | bookmark | well i tried installing without desktop and it was like 900megs but then it had no sound in x |
| 21:06.01 | bookmark | or at all whatever |
| 21:06.06 | bookmark | mpg123 |
| 21:06.19 | bookmark | don't see why it would be like that but whatever |
| 21:06.29 | kanon-mat | did you install recommends, bookmark? |
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| 21:06.57 | bookmark | it never asked me anything about packages after i chose base and laptop options |
| 21:07.01 | bookmark | and unchecked desktop |
| 21:07.17 | bookmark | but ive reinstalled with desktop now anyway |
| 21:07.20 | bookmark | to get my sound back |
| 21:07.47 | Supaplex | !sound |
| 21:07.47 | dpkg | it has been said that sound is ask me about <alsa>, <install alsa>, <alsa checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>, <ac97>, <dmix>, <esound>, <arts>, <devdsp>. |
| 21:07.57 | bookmark | i had alsa |
| 21:08.05 | bookmark | maybe i just needed ac97 or something |
| 21:08.13 | bookmark | or devdsp or esound |
| 21:08.27 | bookmark | I dunno what is esound at a |
| 21:08.42 | kanon-mat | my fresh kde4 install is 1.6G, but there are some missing parts |
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| 21:10.45 | Supaplex | bookmark: does lspci -k show the driver(s) is(are) loaded for the device(s)? |
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| 21:12.58 | bookmark | 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
| 21:13.17 | bookmark | it isn't a module |
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| 21:13.29 | bookmark | its inside i checked /etc/modules.conf |
| 21:13.29 | Supaplex | it was a yes/no question related to lspci -k |
| 21:13.31 | bookmark | or whatever it is |
| 21:13.47 | bookmark | supaplex, appoligies, 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
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| 21:13.52 | bookmark | is is the output from your command |
| 21:13.55 | bookmark | it is |
| 21:14.02 | Supaplex | are you running etch? lenny? |
| 21:14.05 | bookmark | yeah |
| 21:14.12 | bookmark | leenny |
| 21:14.13 | Supaplex | which one? |
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| 21:14.27 | bookmark | sorry i readed tech lenny |
| 21:14.37 | Supaplex | okay. I thought lspci -k shows the kernel modules too. |
| 21:14.38 | bookmark | full of brain errors today |
| 21:14.55 | bookmark | it says it does in --help well the thing is, it isn't a module |
| 21:15.11 | Supaplex | it's builtin? humm okay. |
| 21:15.18 | Supaplex | you rolled your own kernel? |
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| 21:15.22 | bookmark | nope |
| 21:15.31 | bookmark | i mean i can |
| 21:15.40 | Supaplex | !pciid |
| 21:15.40 | dpkg | To locate the kernel module(s) supporting your hardware, run lspci -k (lenny+), or lspci -nn, and ask me about <pciid 00:1b.0 Audio device ... [8086:284b] ...> Where [8086:284b] is the vendor+device id of your hardware. Results should be similar to <hcl>, but uses your local /lib/modules/*/modules.alias to guess. Some hardware uses alternate means of detection: beware of some false positives+negatives. |
| 21:15.43 | hark | bookmark: run speaker-test -c2 -twav |
| 21:15.56 | bookmark | i could build it but i didn't want to |
| 21:16.06 | bookmark | hark my sound works fine |
| 21:16.09 | Supaplex | I didn't ask you to build anything. |
| 21:16.22 | bookmark | i reinstalled back to how i had it before with the desktop option |
| 21:16.25 | bookmark | now my sound works again |
| 21:16.38 | Supaplex | so what are we trying to do? |
| 21:17.28 | bookmark | i just didn't know why it has no sound when i didn't check desktop |
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| 21:17.44 | bookmark | i guess it loads some other kernel |
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| 21:18.04 | bookmark | probably with less shit turned on |
| 21:18.13 | Supaplex | you're talking about on install, you missed the desktop task once, and wanted to know why, right? |
| 21:18.32 | bookmark | i actually unchecked it on purpose |
| 21:18.41 | bookmark | i like very minimal X |
| 21:18.48 | Supaplex | I forget if there's a way to list the stuff tasksel uses. |
| 21:18.50 | Supaplex | !tasksel |
| 21:18.50 | bookmark | i was just gonna put base |
| 21:18.50 | dpkg | hmm... tasksel is a program to select and install "tasks": a collection of packages for a system to perform a specific task (eg. desktop environment, web server). Ask me about <server tasks> and <laptop task>. http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
| 21:19.03 | bookmark | i wish i could have like choice of kernel |
| 21:19.04 | bookmark | is all |
| 21:19.19 | bookmark | i think you used to like hold f6 or something |
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| 21:19.22 | Supaplex | you can really. I most always use base install |
| 21:19.43 | bookmark | how does that make you feel? |
| 21:19.45 | Supaplex | it's not a different kernel when desktop is chosen, and when it's not. |
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| 21:20.43 | bookmark | strange well my sound wasn't working i wonder if i was missing ac97 or something like that |
| 21:20.46 | bookmark | devdsp |
| 21:20.49 | Supaplex | I install what ever I need after. |
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| 21:21.00 | bookmark | ok i didn't know anything about what i might need |
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| 21:22.02 | Supaplex | what are you trying to do now? |
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| 21:22.56 | bookmark | i was thinking out installing quake2 |
| 21:22.57 | bookmark | or something |
| 21:23.05 | bookmark | i'm studying spanish so i have fill time |
| 21:23.09 | bookmark | install maya and quake2 |
| 21:23.19 | bookmark | hehe |
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| 21:23.45 | bookmark | i don't remember it asking to run taskselect |
| 21:23.53 | bookmark | do i have to choose custom install or something? |
| 21:24.06 | bookmark | or i could install base duh |
| 21:24.07 | bookmark | nevermind |
| 21:24.13 | bookmark | then apt-shit everything |
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| 21:24.46 | bookmark | i thought you were talking about x-window-base |
| 21:25.06 | bookmark | now i see |
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| 21:26.55 | drith | hi to all |
| 21:27.05 | drith | need some assistance |
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| 21:27.16 | drith | java and libxul |
| 21:27.22 | drith | problems |
| 21:27.28 | shardz_ | dont ask to ask, just ask |
| 21:27.52 | drith | Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (11.0-b16 mixed mode, sharing linux-x86) |
| 21:27.52 | drith | # Problematic frame: |
| 21:27.52 | drith | # C [libxul.so+0x8d219c] |
| 21:28.07 | drith | debian squeeze |
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| 21:28.14 | Supaplex | !blame java |
| 21:28.14 | dpkg | blames linuxwizard and java for all the evil in the world |
| 21:28.26 | drith | uff |
| 21:28.51 | drith | # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code. |
| 21:28.51 | drith | # See problematic frame for where to report the bug. |
| 21:28.56 | drith | ??? |
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| 21:29.19 | Supaplex | libxul eh. |
| 21:29.23 | amphi | !blame xul |
| 21:29.23 | dpkg | blames Knorrie- and xul for all the evil in the world |
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| 21:29.27 | bookmark | ati ATI Radeon drivers to be open sourced; http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/119049 |
| 21:29.34 | bookmark | that is totally awsome |
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| 21:30.05 | bookmark | i hope it extends to mobile chips |
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| 21:30.46 | Supaplex | "to be" is like real soon now |
| 21:30.48 | Supaplex | !rsn |
| 21:30.48 | dpkg | [rsn] Real Soon Now (or never) or see <wir> and <siyh> |
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| 21:31.13 | bazik|home | do i miss something in bookmark posting 'news' from 2007> |
| 21:31.14 | bazik|home | ? |
| 21:31.25 | bookmark | ive been busy |
| 21:31.30 | bazik|home | i see. :) |
| 21:31.40 | Knorrie- | huh |
| 21:31.44 | agaran | ;D |
| 21:31.50 | Knorrie- | wtf |
| 21:32.04 | Knorrie- | what's wrong with me |
| 21:32.12 | bazik|home | you got a tail |
| 21:32.31 | bazik|home | aww now its gone! |
| 21:32.36 | Knorrie | heheheh |
| 21:32.57 | Knorrie | some reconnect or so |
| 21:33.17 | Knorrie | but still dunno why dpkg picked me :o) |
| 21:33.40 | agaran | you are The Choosen ?;> |
| 21:33.40 | Knorrie | my tail has a curl |
| 21:33.45 | Knorrie | like debian has :) |
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| 21:33.55 | Knorrie | or a swirl, as you like :) |
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| 21:38.33 | bazik|home | any suggestions on a good console (ncurses) based mp3 player? something more advanced as mpg123 please :) |
| 21:38.55 | bazik|home | strike mp3, set audio file |
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| 21:40.56 | aaron__ | bazik|home, you have mp3blaster |
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| 21:42.29 | bazik|home | aaron__: yay that looks nice. thanks! |
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| 21:43.30 | shardz_ | how do you tell which version of wine you have? |
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| 21:43.43 | adama_ | wine --version |
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| 21:44.05 | agaran | wine --drink, if you got headache then it wasnt good one (sorry i cannot resist)... |
| 21:44.52 | PiousMinion1 | Is there an easy way to find out information about my currently connected mouse(s) such as driver, emulation, etc? |
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| 21:51.12 | Supaplex | PiousMinion1: hwinfo might. |
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| 21:56.57 | Dassu | Hmm... If I use compiled programs is there a way to tell apt-get to consider libs and -dev's needed after apt-get build-dep is used ? |
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| 21:58.26 | paladin | can I use apt to see if a file is missing and from which package? |
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| 22:04.18 | draemon | paladin - you can use "dpkg -l" to list installed packages, then "dpkg -L" to list the contents of a package - then see if anything's missing |
| 22:04.39 | draemon | to do it for every package on a system would take a bit of scripting and a lot of time |
| 22:05.55 | Dassu | I can't believe it |
| 22:06.06 | Supaplex | you can reinstall over top. |
| 22:06.08 | Supaplex | !clone |
| 22:06.09 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 22:06.20 | Supaplex | smacks dpkg silly |
| 22:06.38 | Supaplex | !debian clone |
| 22:06.38 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone><reinstall><things to backup> |
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| 22:07.17 | stew | aptitude clone is better |
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| 22:48.18 | dls | I dont have any access to the network on my debian machine, however, I installed it with a net cd, which installed it from the net, so, I had internet during the install, but I dont anymore, I´ve got a dhcp server, what do i do? |
| 22:50.04 | mavhc | add CDs to apt? |
| 22:50.31 | funyun | anyone know of a good gui video splitter for linux besides avidemux? |
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| 22:51.11 | funyun | better yet, anyone have a clue why avidemux knocks all of my split videos out of sync? |
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| 22:52.57 | mavhc | avi sucks |
| 22:53.55 | funyun | ya it does |
| 22:55.05 | mavhc | it couldn't stay in sync if it were interleaved |
| 22:56.32 | funyun | mavhc: do ya know why avidemux keeps outputting them oos? |
| 22:57.10 | mavhc | is the audio vbr? |
| 22:57.27 | funyun | sometimes yes |
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| 22:58.07 | mavhc | no idea, but vbr+avi is a hack |
| 22:58.47 | funyun | when i split with mencoder i never have problems. but it just takes too long |
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| 22:59.51 | ramvi | How do I dpkg-buildpackage for an other architecture than the one I'm on? (ie i86 instead of amd64) |
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| 23:01.37 | teratoma | why isnt ultramonkey in the debian repos ? is there something better ? |
| 23:01.41 | jpinx-eeepc | I plugged an old digicam into the USB and showing in lsusb and it's come on, so how do I get it to show me an image? |
| 23:01.52 | Supaplex | ramvi: poke around in the debian wiki. |
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| 23:02.31 | ramvi | Supaplex: Can't I just add -a i86 or something? |
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| 23:03.04 | Supaplex | ramvi: I'm completely aloof to this topic now. I ventured into this realm 6-8 months ago. |
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| 23:03.18 | Supaplex | it's more involved than a simple command line switch |
| 23:03.32 | ramvi | :( |
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| 23:04.17 | CrazyTux[m] | Hey guys after compiling a custom kernel from kernel.org (how can I easily install this into boot lodaer?) I do not see the normal grub.conf type setup. |
| 23:04.41 | jpinx-eeepc | mplayer tv:// shows "unable to open /dev/video0 : no such fie or dir" |
| 23:05.10 | agaran | CrazyTux[m]: man make-kpkg? |
| 23:05.27 | llimeht | ramvi: i386 on amd64 is manageable with pbuilder. Otherwise, look at something like qemubuilder. Cross compiling can be non-trivial. |
| 23:05.32 | CrazyTux[m] | agaran: what package is that a part of? do not see that available. |
| 23:05.47 | ramvi | llimeht: i386 is what I need |
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| 23:06.00 | agaran | CrazyTux[m]: kernel-package |
| 23:06.28 | CrazyTux[m] | agaran: thanks. |
| 23:07.05 | svk | Hello, apt-get seems to fail in many Python configuration scripts, with an exception IOError: "bad file descriptor".. is there anything I might be able to do about it? |
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| 23:07.37 | svk | It's leaving a large amount of packages not properly configured, mostly gnome ones |
| 23:07.56 | NiLon | svk could be that you have too old python installed or too new |
| 23:08.03 | NiLon | had similar issues with perl when it was too new |
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| 23:09.05 | svk | My Python is 2.5.4 if "python --version" is an accurate measure of the one apt-get uses |
| 23:09.17 | ramvi | Supaplex: just add -ai386 did it. Thanks for your time :) |
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| 23:11.11 | NiLon | svk is that testing/unstable? |
| 23:11.47 | svk | It should be all unstable |
| 23:12.14 | NiLon | so your problem could be that |
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| 23:12.53 | NiLon | unstable system is designed not to work ;) |
| 23:13.19 | svk | Heh.. in my experience it does work a lot of the time |
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| 23:13.31 | svk | When it doesn't I come here to complain, sometimes it helps :) |
| 23:13.38 | Dillizar | where can i find mtplib for debian 5 |
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| 23:14.14 | llimeht | Dillizar: libmtp? |
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| 23:14.31 | Dillizar | mtp support |
| 23:14.37 | NiLon | svk I would suggest that you use stable and unstable only if you really need newer version |
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| 23:16.14 | abrotman | Dillizar: he's asking you if you searched for libmtp |
| 23:16.14 | svk | I used to run a mix, then that made a mess of packaging and people recommended that I choose one or the other :/ |
| 23:16.46 | svk | But really, I'm surprised that this is not a known problem.. makes me think it's due to me messing something up |
| 23:17.17 | svk | And I'd love to know where I might have done that.. |
| 23:17.18 | Dillizar | abrotman, where can find it i dont know where to search :) |
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| 23:17.29 | jpinx-eeepc | svk lenny with backports is a good recipe |
| 23:17.36 | RainbowW | what's the gnome equiv to the start-kde script? eg, the one i put in xstartup? |
| 23:17.41 | abrotman | !tell Dillizar about search |
| 23:18.10 | bookmark | i'm gonna copy the 140meg debian livecd onto my harddrive |
| 23:18.11 | bookmark | hehehe |
| 23:18.19 | bookmark | i hope my printer will load |
| 23:18.36 | bookmark | i guess i could test that first |
| 23:18.38 | bookmark | before wiping |
| 23:19.08 | svk | Okay, I'll keep that in mind the next time I want to reorganize my install |
| 23:19.09 | Dillizar | abchirk, i need the -dev or the -doc |
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| 23:19.18 | svk | But surely unstable is not _meant_ to have unfixable problems? |
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| 23:19.46 | RainbowW | svk: no, but sometimes it -does-. that's what you get when you run sid. |
| 23:19.57 | llimeht | svk: they're called bugs... |
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| 23:20.24 | svk | Yeah, okay.. I guess when I ran a mix it was a mix with the old stable, which was.. older |
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| 23:20.30 | svk | It might be a better idea now |
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| 23:21.04 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell svk about unstable |
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| 23:24.03 | svk | Okay, if anyone has any input on my particular problem please do tell (recap: post-install scripts fail in Python 2.5.4, specifically line 82 of /usr/sbin/gconf-schemas which involves reading from an os.popen to get a PID for gconfd-2) |
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| 23:27.09 | svk | Actually I can reproduce that in the parser by just trying to execute that line, so I'll check with #python |
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| 23:28.28 | bookmark | i can play the horn with my eye |
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| 23:28.57 | CTPAX | Hello there. I use Debian 4. How to install exactly gcc-4.1.1-21? (With Synaptic I was able to install 4.1.2-25, but not gcc-4.1.1-21) |
| 23:29.17 | bookmark | good gracious |
| 23:29.23 | bookmark | the calamity |
| 23:29.30 | RainbowW | what's the gnome equiv to the start-kde script? eg, the one i put in xstartup? |
| 23:29.43 | Zharf | rm -rf / |
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| 23:33.28 | abrotman | Zharf: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for giving destructive instructions |
| 23:34.01 | bookmark | sheet |
| 23:34.06 | Polarina | abrotman: But that's the coolest command... |
| 23:34.15 | bookmark | i just downloaded 500 livecd instead of 501 will that be lenny? |
| 23:34.17 | abrotman | Polarina: it's not funny |
| 23:34.20 | bookmark | its justa name i know |
| 23:34.23 | bookmark | but i was wondering |
| 23:34.36 | Polarina | abrotman: No, but it's cool when you intend for it to happen [to yourself]. |
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| 23:34.39 | RainbowW | !tell bookmark about enter |
| 23:34.50 | abrotman | Polarina: stop, it's not funny |
| 23:34.58 | Polarina | abrotman: All right. :( |
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| 23:40.20 | seed95 | Hi, while compiling ettercap I have this error "/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `atk_relation_set_add_relation_by_type'" I don't know how to fix the problem, can someone help please? |
| 23:41.14 | abrotman | seed95: running which version of linux ? |
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| 23:41.22 | froggles | hi |
| 23:41.27 | froggles | is lenny debian 5 ? |
| 23:41.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:41.40 | bookmark | :D |
| 23:41.41 | seed95 | yes |
| 23:41.41 | abrotman | seed95: why not just use the ettercap packages in debian ? |
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| 23:41.55 | seed95 | abrotman: I need to compile a plugin ... |
| 23:43.31 | seed95 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.53 | abrotman | quite possibly .. why would you do such a silly thing ? |
| 23:44.16 | RainbowW | step away from the compiler now. you could lose a limb with it. |
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| 23:45.22 | seed95 | anyway I updated all packages and I still have this problem |
| 23:46.44 | karsten | seed95: versions of libs you've installed don't match your sources, most likely. |
| 23:46.53 | karsten | seed95: Where'd you get the source? |
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| 23:47.18 | seed95 | karsten: aptitude source ettercap-gtk |
| 23:47.21 | karsten | seed95: And downgrading Debian is not supported, you can't back down once you've gone up. |
| 23:47.29 | karsten | seed95: That of itself would do it. |
| 23:48.18 | Polarina | Is there a tool that can connect to an Ogg Vorbis stream (icecast server) and save the stream on the hard disk without re-encoding the data? |
| 23:48.20 | seed95 | karsten: so I am still in sid |
| 23:48.55 | karsten | seed95: Not sure. I'd set my sources back to sid, do a dist-upgrade, and try again. |
| 23:49.05 | abrotman | then pick up the pieces |
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| 23:50.40 | karsten | seed95: Fighting the package management system is a good way to keep yourself busy for quite some time. |
| 23:50.53 | karsten | seed95: I'm not even going to offer enabling support there. |
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| 23:51.19 | seed95 | is there something I can do to have the right version of libgtk-x11 or libatk ? |
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| 23:56.49 | seed95 | karsten: I still have the same error after dist-upgrade |
| 23:59.40 | karsten | seed95: re-fetch sources. |
| 23:59.56 | seed95 | karsten: ettercap sources? |
