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| 00:04.04 | seed95 | karsten: same again, is there a way to tells the compiler to ignore thoses symbols ? |
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| 00:08.32 | dls | I want to dualboot xp and debian, so I installed debian and now I can´t boot xp, I found that I should have "http://pastebay.com/17014" In my menu.lst, if XP is on hd0,0. And it is, but It just won´t boot, it just returns to grub menu again, no error |
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| 00:10.50 | seed95 | dls: did you add "chainloader +1" ? |
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| 00:11.47 | dls | seed95 - Yeah, I did |
| 00:11.54 | HTT-Bird | ugh. I tried doing <simple sid backport> on boost1.38, but it conflicts with the existing Boost installlation, which is weird, since Boost headers and libs CAN be installed in parallel (at least afaict) |
| 00:17.09 | HTT-Bird | so, why don't the Debian packages for Boost support parallel versions? |
| 00:17.11 | HTT-Bird | O.o |
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| 00:17.28 | karsten | Dumb question: how do you force an IP to arp? |
| 00:17.32 | HTT-Bird | because Boost, notably, is NOT ABI-compatible across releases |
| 00:17.37 | karsten | Multiple bonded NICs on box. Yes, Debian. |
| 00:17.38 | HTT-Bird | karsten: what do you mean force? :p |
| 00:17.41 | karsten | thought arp did that. |
| 00:17.53 | karsten | HTT-Bird: Trying to wake up the switch, we moved an IP. |
| 00:18.11 | HTT-Bird | karsten: moved an IP from one NIC to another? |
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| 00:20.47 | karsten | HTT-Bird: From one server to another. |
| 00:20.59 | HTT-Bird | karsten: WEIRD |
| 00:21.02 | HTT-Bird | static or DHCP? |
| 00:21.13 | karsten | HTT-Bird: HD died, production environment. Static. |
| 00:21.38 | karsten | The old server has networking disabled (or should). mtr dead-ends at the router |
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| 00:22.13 | HTT-Bird | karsten: clear the ARP cache on the box I guess |
| 00:22.20 | HTT-Bird | and let ARP do its thing all over again |
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| 00:24.33 | HTT-Bird | ok, folks: I have Boost 1.34 on my Lenny box. I need boost >=1.37 for some development work I am doing, so I tried to use the <simple sid backport> procedure. |
| 00:24.47 | HTT-Bird | However, the 1.38 packages conflict with 1.34 when I tried to install them |
| 00:24.51 | HTT-Bird | what should I do? |
| 00:25.01 | Polarina | HTT-Bird: Uninstall 1.34 |
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| 00:25.08 | jpinx-eeepc | purge the old before installing the new? |
| 00:25.18 | jpinx-eeepc | ;) |
| 00:25.25 | HTT-Bird | Polarina: the Lenny version of Inkscape won't break, right? |
| 00:25.49 | Polarina | HTT-Bird: Inkscape doesn't even depend on libboost on my system... |
| 00:26.00 | HTT-Bird | hmmm... |
| 00:26.16 | HTT-Bird | maybe I should just try uninstalling 1.34 and installing 1.38 |
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| 00:27.23 | user__ | what up yall! |
| 00:27.27 | user__ | er... |
| 00:27.42 | bookmark | i'm on the ol linux standard boot cd 140megs |
| 00:27.52 | bookmark | hahah its 3.2 megs in the ramdisk |
| 00:28.09 | bookmark | i wonder if there is anyway i can get the cd out and just run off the 3.2 megs? |
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| 00:29.23 | bookmark | then i could copy that 3.2 megs to my harddrive and laugh my ass off |
| 00:29.41 | bookmark | then start mess with the machine language |
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| 00:30.23 | stack | hi, I've just installed ttf-inconsolata font, and I'm unable to get it recognized by the application, how should I do? |
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| 00:35.12 | dls | whats up? I need to do stuff in windows and I´m stuck with debian, grub wont boot windows...it sucks |
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| 00:36.22 | abrotman | which grub ? |
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| 00:36.43 | abrotman | can you put your menu.lst in paste.debian.net |
| 00:36.56 | stack | mh no now only urxvt don't recognize it :) |
| 00:37.04 | stack | wtf |
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| 00:37.56 | votan | what are the dfgs nonfree packages for |
| 00:38.27 | votan | i enabled those but i got no xephem |
| 00:38.37 | abrotman | maybe it's not in debian at all ? |
| 00:38.43 | votan | its not |
| 00:38.50 | votan | its in gentoo though |
| 00:38.56 | votan | which is making me mad |
| 00:39.04 | abrotman | okay ... so if you know it's not in debian .. why would you think it would be in debian ? |
| 00:39.24 | votan | i expected it might be |
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| 00:39.32 | abrotman | stellarium isn't good enough ? |
| 00:39.38 | abrotman | or not the same? |
| 00:39.46 | votan | its too demanding |
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| 00:40.25 | votan | i only have an atom cpu here |
| 00:40.54 | abrotman | !wnpp |
| 00:40.54 | dpkg | For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp Also use the script wnpp-alert (from the devscripts package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help. |
| 00:41.01 | abrotman | erm .. whoops .. wrong one |
| 00:41.02 | abrotman | !rfp |
| 00:41.02 | dpkg | Request For Package is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ". ask me about <wnpp> |
| 00:41.14 | abrotman | and an atom CPU should be fine for stellarium |
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| 00:41.51 | votan | okay |
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| 00:46.14 | Pulpie | debian sees my printer but inkblot doesn't see it... |
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| 00:54.00 | bookmark | does anyone know how to get lpinfo in debian? |
| 00:54.13 | bookmark | nm |
| 00:54.55 | abrotman | !tell bookmark about search |
| 00:55.54 | psycose | hi debian package gcc-4.3, it there something special in packaging this package, because there is a tar.bz2 instead of source, and running debuild is not sufficient to rebuild the package, thanks |
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| 00:57.19 | pd_tsc | does anyone know if there's midori binaries for debian anywhere? i'm on a netbook and don't want to have to download everything to compile it and it wasn't in the binaries last i checked |
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| 00:57.34 | pd_tsc | or if not, is there a lightweight browser capable of most web2.0 stuff (mostly just youtube, facebook, etc. style sites) |
| 00:57.47 | pd_tsc | i'm using iceweasel but i could go more lightweight |
| 00:57.47 | abrotman | !pal pd_tsc |
| 00:57.48 | dpkg | points at pd_tsc and laughs uproariously |
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| 00:58.05 | scibotic | Is there a way to trigger a mouse-click from a shell script? |
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| 00:58.31 | abrotman | pd_tsc: maybe a static opera ? |
| 00:58.50 | pd_tsc | what do you mean by a 'static' opera |
| 00:59.01 | abrotman | they offer a statically compiled version |
| 00:59.16 | pd_tsc | ah ok thanks |
| 00:59.26 | karsten | notes that selectively flushing router cache solved the problem. |
| 00:59.33 | bookmark | are pictures copyrighted? |
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| 01:01.04 | karsten | bookmark: Yes. |
| 01:01.29 | faffi | if i have two wifi cards, how do i specifically send traffic through one and other traffic through the other? |
| 01:01.48 | karsten | bookmark: Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. |
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| 01:01.53 | karsten | bookmark: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/usc_sec_17_00000102----000-.html |
| 01:01.53 | bookmark | so if i run webbrowser my ram might copy them |
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| 01:02.03 | karsten | bookmark: Read the f*cking law. |
| 01:02.10 | flaccid | anyone around that can help me with jailkit ? it doesn't seem to find or copy a lot of files |
| 01:02.22 | karsten | bookmark: There are numerous exemptions to limitations on making copies. |
| 01:02.31 | karsten | bookmark: /join #debian-offtopic |
| 01:02.34 | bookmark | beheheh sorry |
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| 01:04.30 | abrotman | dls: please don't msg me .. ask in here |
| 01:05.07 | bookmark | lpinfo -f shows my printer |
| 01:05.31 | abrotman | dls: and that should be enough .. what is the error it gives when you try to boot it ? |
| 01:05.40 | dls | srry, I just clicked your name, I´m not used to this program. |
| 01:05.41 | Tramp | faffi: in the general case, by setting appropriate routes and maybe rules - see http://www.lartc.org/ |
| 01:06.08 | bookmark | but: lp sources.list -d usb://Samsung/ML-2510%20Series |
| 01:06.09 | bookmark | returns: lp: The printer or class was not found. |
| 01:06.32 | dls | abrotman: Thats the weird thing, I dont get any error, all that happends is that it runs the code, and then it says "loading grub menu" or something like that, no error, it just loads grub Again! |
| 01:06.40 | abrotman | bookmark: the file goes last |
| 01:06.45 | bookmark | same if i put sources.list last |
| 01:07.10 | bookmark | --help showed it first so i put there to start with |
| 01:07.17 | abrotman | dls: fdisk -l .. where is your ntfs partition ? |
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| 01:12.08 | RainbowW | what's the gnome equiv to the start-kde script in lenny? to go eg in xstartup. exec gnome-session & in my start script gives me a pretty background but no control knobs. |
| 01:12.26 | abrotman | RainbowW: why are you asking on two networks? |
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| 01:12.44 | scibotic | Please help me, I need to be able to script a button click via. cron. |
| 01:12.52 | RainbowW | because occasionally there is a different clientele in each. |
| 01:15.13 | abrotman | scibotic: you might get a better answer in #xorg |
| 01:15.39 | dls | abrotman : http://pastebay.com/17022 |
| 01:15.44 | scibotic | abrotman, Thanks, I'll give it a try. |
| 01:16.39 | abrotman | dls: all i can think is to run grub-install .. but it shouldn't be necessary |
| 01:17.30 | dls | Well, I´ve reinstalled grub in hda1 with the command "boot: rescue" on the install disc |
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| 01:19.08 | AakashPatel | hey guys |
| 01:19.12 | AakashPatel | im trying to compile for arm |
| 01:19.14 | AakashPatel | http://pastebin.com/m5a70c7fd |
| 01:19.26 | AakashPatel | but i keep getting that eror when using emchain |
| 01:19.59 | AakashPatel | is that a known issue? |
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| 01:22.53 | shardz | shardz_: I keep getting alerts every time someone talks to you. :/ |
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| 01:31.20 | faffi | anyone know how to make ssh not verify/save rsa keys from rhosts? |
| 01:31.31 | faffi | is it something through the -o argument |
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| 01:32.31 | funyun | noob here. can someone help my write a script? it's for mencoder. when i split a video i do "mencoder -ss <start point> -endpos <end point>". but the end point is the time from start point. can someone help me write a script which makes the end point from 00:00:00 to the end point? |
| 01:32.35 | Supaplex | man ssh_config perhaps? rhosts? are we talking pre ssh days here? |
| 01:32.52 | abrotman | funyun: ask #bash |
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| 01:33.21 | funyun | abrotman: okay, thanks |
| 01:33.44 | faffi | Supaplex: umm i just want to ssh and either not save the rsa key when prompted or disable rsa authentication at the command line |
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| 01:35.19 | Supaplex | ahh. as in known_hosts |
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| 01:36.53 | AakashPatel | ah geez |
| 01:36.56 | AakashPatel | http://pastebin.com/m5a70c7fd |
| 01:37.04 | AakashPatel | thats drving me mad lol i need it for me job :x |
| 01:37.53 | CTPAX | Hi. I would like to use kernel 2.6.18-5, what etch version (4.0_r0 - 4.0_r7) I should install? |
| 01:38.31 | abrotman | what's wrong with the -6- ? |
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| 01:44.41 | CTPAX | I need to compile old firmware that uses linux/config.h (it is obsolete, right?) and other old features. And I can't change the code. |
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| 01:45.58 | pickcoder | isn't -5 available in the lenny repos? |
| 01:46.15 | abrotman | pickcoder: he wants the etch |
| 01:47.55 | pickcoder | I can't find config.h on any of my source installs |
| 01:48.26 | abrotman | !config.h |
| 01:48.28 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 01:48.37 | abrotman | wonders which file that was |
| 01:48.41 | bookmark | does anyone know how to increase |less? |
| 01:48.47 | bookmark | so it holds more |
| 01:48.54 | abrotman | oh .. it was version.h |
| 01:48.57 | bookmark | or increase > output |
| 01:49.01 | abrotman | bookmark: make your terminal larger ? |
| 01:49.11 | pickcoder | use more? |
| 01:49.29 | pickcoder | heh |
| 01:49.29 | bookmark | umm no i mean like number of lines in the buffer |
| 01:49.29 | bookmark | hehe yeah |
| 01:49.29 | abrotman | bookmark: did you try hitting .. the space bar? |
| 01:49.33 | bookmark | abrotaman i need about 1000 lines for less |
| 01:49.38 | bookmark | maybe more |
| 01:49.52 | pickcoder | I've cat'd files much larger than that through less |
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| 01:50.02 | abrotman | bookmark: i think you don't understand the concept of less |
| 01:50.06 | abrotman | or a pager in general |
| 01:50.16 | bookmark | well i had about 600 lines or so then it stopped |
| 01:50.27 | bookmark | i could never see the top of my "locate" results |
| 01:50.46 | abrotman | did you hit spacebar or not? |
| 01:51.12 | pickcoder | waits for updatedb |
| 01:51.44 | bookmark | spacebar made it even shorter and btw i already use updatedb |
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| 01:52.18 | kanon-mat | i installed kde4 on sid. i can't start it with startkde. how do i know i have the packages needed? |
| 01:52.31 | bookmark | oh nevermind i have it all now |
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| 01:55.14 | kanon-mat | with startx i can get kaboom going and then some sort of splash and nothing happens |
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| 02:01.53 | Noble | How can I find out what is running on a specific port? |
| 02:02.00 | abrotman | fuser or lsof |
| 02:02.17 | AakashPatel | anyone know in here whay the armel toolchain is borked |
| 02:02.37 | AakashPatel | http://pastebin.com/m5a70c7fd |
| 02:04.28 | Noble | ok ty |
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| 02:11.20 | daz3d | how would i know the debian release version? |
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| 02:11.30 | frankS2 | cat /etc/version |
| 02:11.41 | daz3d | tnx |
| 02:11.45 | abrotman | /etc/debian_version |
| 02:12.02 | abrotman | or lsb_release -a .. IIRC |
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| 02:12.39 | Swap | A tool to publicly log channels? |
| 02:12.43 | maddash | is google down?? |
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| 02:13.48 | shyam_k` | was playing with mirroring repositories and i got this DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery |
| 02:14.14 | shyam_k` | searching a bit hinted about possible permission problems... i done a chmod -R a+wrx on the whole repo directory.. |
| 02:14.22 | kanon-mat | google is up for me |
| 02:15.08 | shyam_k` | i did scroogle for last 10 mins.. and can't get anything useful.. |
| 02:15.16 | abrotman | Swap: your IRC client |
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| 02:15.38 | Swap | abrotman: Something like nadoka. Surely someone must have written a good logger already1 |
| 02:15.39 | Swap | ! |
| 02:15.56 | abrotman | Swap: apt-cache search irc log |
| 02:16.09 | Swap | abrotman: I did that, see nothing obvious besides nadoka. |
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| 02:16.22 | abrotman | so use it |
| 02:16.47 | Swap | abrotman: I want a recommendation for what's good. If you don't have a recommendation for what's good, then... |
| 02:16.58 | abrotman | decide for yourself! :) |
| 02:17.07 | shyam_k` | xo |
| 02:17.10 | Swap | What are the options? |
| 02:17.14 | Swap | Nadoka and plum? |
| 02:17.15 | shyam_k` | ops that came by mistake.. |
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| 02:24.29 | CTPAX | I can't find 4.0_r1. There is http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/project/build/4.0_r1/i386 nothing to download. What I'm doing wrong? |
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| 02:25.01 | abrotman | !cd archive |
| 02:25.01 | dpkg | A repository of older (unsupported) CD images can be found at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 02:26.30 | CTPAX | Great! Thanks a lot, dpkg! |
| 02:26.34 | hderms | how can I purge all my nvidia and xorg config files so that I can have X like when installed |
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| 02:31.49 | bookmark | oh man this is so cool |
| 02:31.57 | bookmark | i have my samsung printer working on 140meg linux |
| 02:32.00 | bookmark | er.. debian |
| 02:32.05 | hexoroid | how do you detach from screen ? |
| 02:32.13 | bookmark | ctrl a then d |
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| 02:32.22 | annyatna | why debian is suk. |
| 02:32.24 | bookmark | keep ktrl down |
| 02:32.26 | bookmark | contrl |
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| 02:32.43 | hexoroid | ah ok |
| 02:32.49 | hexoroid | how do you get back into it ? |
| 02:32.50 | bookmark | annyata i'm on 140meg live cd version and i have my printer working |
| 02:32.55 | bookmark | screen -x |
| 02:33.05 | bookmark | sometimes you ahve to specify the pid |
| 02:33.08 | bookmark | if there are more than one |
| 02:33.13 | bookmark | like screen -x 2502 |
| 02:33.15 | bookmark | or something |
| 02:33.24 | bookmark | or just the first digit of it |
| 02:33.30 | annyatna | bookmark:even win95 could do that... |
| 02:33.41 | bookmark | annyatna but linux has gcc |
| 02:33.47 | hexoroid | bookmark what if i leave something running and i logout screen would still be there correct ? |
| 02:33.50 | bookmark | you can program your own shit, win95 didn't have that |
| 02:33.57 | bookmark | sure |
| 02:34.00 | bookmark | you can run like mpg123 |
| 02:34.06 | bookmark | in the background and listen to music |
| 02:34.17 | bookmark | or irc |
| 02:34.18 | hexoroid | well i am decoding some movie |
| 02:34.20 | hexoroid | and i want to logout :) |
| 02:34.22 | bookmark | and just idle |
| 02:34.29 | bookmark | hmm dunno about hiding movies |
| 02:34.32 | hexoroid | and i want to check results when i get back in :) |
| 02:34.35 | bookmark | oh yeah you can process stuff |
| 02:34.40 | bookmark | yea you can leave x |
| 02:35.10 | bookmark | screen is indistructable as far as i know unless you kill it |
| 02:35.37 | bookmark | sometimes you have to switch users till you found where you left it |
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| 02:38.15 | abrotman | annyatna: do you need help with Debian ? |
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| 02:44.18 | jvm | hi. how can i set the master volume within a shell script? |
| 02:46.46 | bookmark | aumix |
| 02:46.49 | bookmark | apt-get install aumix |
| 02:46.54 | bookmark | then run it |
| 02:47.07 | abrotman | it's amixer now |
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| 02:47.12 | abrotman | if using alsa |
| 02:47.12 | bookmark | ah |
| 02:47.18 | bookmark | aumix works too i think |
| 02:47.54 | jvm | abrotman, you are here 24-hour solely to answer debian user questions? :) |
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| 02:48.44 | abrotman | jvm: wait .. you're in germany .. and oyu're making fun of my IRC schedule ? |
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| 02:49.48 | jvm | abrotman, i was just surprised that among 900 people you were involved in answering one of my questions the last three times ;) |
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| 02:50.02 | abrotman | jvm: next time i'll keep quiet |
| 02:50.34 | jvm | abrotman, i didnt mean to lower your engagement. |
| 02:51.14 | bookmark | hmm maybe i'm wrong over here |
| 02:51.21 | bookmark | oh how do i use this amixer thing |
| 02:51.28 | bookmark | maybe thats why my sound isn't working |
| 02:52.01 | jvm | i just tried aumix, and "aumix -v+100" sets maximum volume, "aumix -v-100" does the contrary. |
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| 02:52.22 | bookmark | jvm get ncurses5-dev |
| 02:52.38 | jvm | for what reason, bookmark? |
| 02:52.55 | abrotman | jvm: you really probably want amixer .. aumix is for OSS, amixer is for alsa |
| 02:53.17 | bookmark | jvm get libncurses5-dev rather, it will make aumix graphical |
| 02:53.41 | bookmark | aumix seems to be depricated for me though |
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| 02:53.50 | bookmark | graphical but still in a terminal |
| 02:53.55 | jvm | i dont want it to be graphical? |
| 02:53.57 | abrotman | bookmark: uhm .. do you know what -dev packages are ? |
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| 02:55.16 | bookmark | whoops |
| 02:55.23 | bookmark | yeah libncurses5 then |
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| 02:55.37 | jvm | thanks a lot bookmark, abrotman. have a good night. |
| 02:55.47 | bookmark | jvm did it work at all? |
| 02:55.52 | AussieGuy | I want to completely reinstall apache2, new http docs and config and everything. So I backed up and deleted /etc/apache2, backed up and deleted /var/www then did "apt-get remove apache2" then "apt-get install apache2". Now theres no /etc/apache2 created |
| 02:56.12 | jvm | bookmark, as stated before: "aumix -v+100" sets maximum volume, "aumix -v-100" does the contrary. |
| 02:56.34 | bookmark | jvm apt-get install libncurse5 or -dev one of those |
| 02:56.37 | bookmark | fix ya right up |
| 02:56.42 | abrotman | !tell AussieGuy about confmiss |
| 02:56.43 | bookmark | jvm apt-get install libncurses5 or -dev one of those |
| 02:56.44 | bookmark | rather |
| 02:56.46 | jvm | nothing to be fixed up? |
| 02:56.49 | jvm | it works. |
| 02:56.53 | bookmark | ah |
| 02:57.01 | bookmark | well ncurses will make it way easier to use |
| 02:57.09 | bookmark | if you want |
| 02:57.33 | abrotman | wtf |
| 02:57.37 | jvm | you know, i want to use this in a shell script. for "ease of use" ive two keyboard shortcuts. |
| 02:58.22 | bookmark | ah true |
| 02:58.45 | jvm | bye. |
| 02:59.00 | bookmark | hmmm |
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| 02:59.10 | bookmark | what in the heck am i doing? |
| 02:59.15 | bookmark | i need a task |
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| 02:59.18 | denysonique | Hi |
| 02:59.27 | bookmark | i guess i shold try to put this thing on my harddrive |
| 02:59.29 | AussieGuy | I get the idea, but apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install apache2 didnt recreate /etc/apache2 |
| 02:59.38 | bookmark | stability ha |
| 02:59.38 | abrotman | !tell bookmark about bts |
| 02:59.40 | abrotman | go fix bugs :) |
| 02:59.46 | abrotman | AussieGuy: wrong package |
| 02:59.47 | bookmark | hahahahahha |
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| 03:00.47 | denysonique | When I run compiz on debian sid the gnome desktop switcher shows only 2 desktops instead of four |
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| 03:01.29 | AussieGuy | abrotman: which package should I use then? |
| 03:01.39 | flaccid | denysonique thats how its meant to be |
| 03:02.04 | denysonique | flaccid: ? |
| 03:02.10 | flaccid | yes |
| 03:02.14 | bookmark | does anyone know how to transfer a livecd to a partition? |
| 03:02.15 | abrotman | apache2-common |
| 03:02.22 | denysonique | in the previous versions of compiz there were 4 |
| 03:02.25 | flaccid | bookmark transfer ? |
| 03:02.39 | bookmark | or how to transfer a ramfs os to a parition |
| 03:02.44 | flaccid | denysonique yeah thats the previous version, you are probably using compiz fusion goto #compiz |
| 03:02.51 | bookmark | yeah i'm in debian livecd and i love it because its small |
| 03:02.55 | bookmark | it booted in about 5 seconds |
| 03:03.09 | bookmark | i have my printer installed |
| 03:03.11 | flaccid | bookmark well if you have access to the files, you could tar/cp/scp etc. |
| 03:03.15 | kanon-mat | denysonique: isnt there some Horizontal Virtual Size setting? |
| 03:03.16 | bookmark | and i want to put it on a harddrive |
| 03:03.36 | bookmark | but will that create a volume br that points to the kernel? |
| 03:03.46 | denysonique | kanon-mat: where? |
| 03:03.53 | flaccid | depends what you copy |
| 03:04.04 | flaccid | isn't the livecd an image based installer of the livecd anyway? |
| 03:04.05 | kanon-mat | in compizconfig-settings-manager somewhere, maybe it needs plugins |
| 03:04.07 | flaccid | or is that just ubuntu |
| 03:04.29 | denysonique | how do I downgrade compiz-fusion? |
| 03:04.34 | denysonique | using apt-get? |
| 03:04.36 | bookmark | i dunno what you mean? |
| 03:04.51 | flaccid | bookmark probably should read http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ |
| 03:04.52 | bookmark | denysonique pray a lot |
| 03:04.59 | denysonique | bookmark: ? |
| 03:05.11 | bookmark | the lord answers prayers of those who pray |
| 03:05.11 | kanon-mat | idk if downgrading is the answer |
| 03:05.17 | flaccid | bookmark http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd |
| 03:05.43 | denysonique | before it was working fine |
| 03:06.30 | kanon-mat | i have a squeeze install with compiz and 4 sides on the "cube" maybe it was because i had set 4 workspaces before i installed compiz |
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| 03:09.41 | mordy_ | i need help getting the 82574L driver working with the lenny 2.6.26 kernel |
| 03:10.03 | flaccid | compiz users: you change the number of workspaces in the compiz settings tool |
| 03:10.13 | flaccid | i forget what that is called but its either a plugin or an option |
| 03:10.21 | mordy_ | it's not supported in the kernel but i did find a patch for it -- http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2008/8/14/2931714 |
| 03:10.33 | kanon-mat | denysonique: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/GeneralOptions |
| 03:10.42 | mordy_ | however it fails by netdev.c - i haven't found any other patch and don't know what to do. any suggestions? |
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| 03:11.45 | mordy_ | using source from a newer kernel will not let me compile the module :( and thus my main system is without intertubwerkz |
| 03:12.37 | mordy_ | well let me correct; the driver is e1000e, the device that's not working wiht it is 82574L |
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| 03:26.12 | KDE4000 | how do I add a service to bootup on debian? |
| 03:26.51 | denysonique | KDE4000: when do you want the service to boot? |
| 03:26.58 | denysonique | after everything has loaded? |
| 03:27.06 | KDE4000 | just before tty login |
| 03:27.10 | KDE4000 | needs SSH in their -.- |
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| 03:27.36 | krphop | k |
| 03:27.39 | KDE4000 | starts thinking about rc-update like their is in gentoo :/ |
| 03:27.58 | mordy_ | KDE4000: /etc/rc.local |
| 03:28.15 | mordy_ | there's alsy sysv-rc-config or some package like that |
| 03:28.24 | denysonique | KDE4000: have you migrated from gentoo to debian? |
| 03:28.28 | flaccid | ssh is a service, you can just enable it with rc-update |
| 03:28.49 | KDE4000 | denysonique: no, im just running debian as a server VM on a gentoo host |
| 03:29.32 | denysonique | KDE4000: since I bought I new laptop I run Debian |
| 03:29.41 | KDE4000 | Gentoo FTW :P |
| 03:29.44 | denysonique | KDE4000: it I still kind of miss Gentoo |
| 03:29.49 | KDE4000 | I mean debians cool and all |
| 03:30.00 | KDE4000 | but I really prefer to have more choice of what versions of stuff I have |
| 03:30.28 | mordy_ | !gentoosmite |
| 03:30.29 | denysonique | KDE4000: in Gentoo you can install unstable packages and they work |
| 03:30.33 | denysonique | in debian they don't |
| 03:30.36 | KDE4000 | yeah |
| 03:30.41 | mordy_ | !gentoosmite KDE4000 |
| 03:30.41 | dpkg | spends 8 weeks recompiling KDE4000, and when it's all done, KDE4000 runs 6% slower than previously |
| 03:30.47 | KDE4000 | lol |
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| 03:31.09 | flaccid | kde4000 ? |
| 03:31.13 | KDE4000 | yes? |
| 03:31.20 | flaccid | what is kde4000? |
| 03:31.27 | KDE4000 | is me! |
| 03:31.37 | denysonique | KDE4000: is there portage for debian? |
| 03:31.43 | flaccid | right |
| 03:31.44 | denysonique | or something simmiliar |
| 03:31.48 | flaccid | stupid bots |
| 03:32.05 | KDE4000 | I guess you could install portage, but what would be the point? |
| 03:32.21 | KDE4000 | that would be like installing RPM on debian |
| 03:32.35 | denysonique | KDE4000: I think we should use Arch |
| 03:32.43 | KDE4000 | meh |
| 03:32.57 | denysonique | KDE4000: its like a binary gentoo |
| 03:33.11 | KDE4000 | I allready have gentoo setup how I like it, why should i change :P |
| 03:33.16 | flaccid | man update-rc.d |
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| 03:33.34 | denysonique | KDE4000: so do I have on my desktop |
| 03:33.45 | denysonique | KDE4000: but I was to lazy to install gentoo on my new laptop |
| 03:33.50 | KDE4000 | heh |
| 03:33.55 | KDE4000 | i was lazy when i got my new laptop |
| 03:33.59 | KDE4000 | but i finaly installed it |
| 03:34.04 | KDE4000 | much happier |
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| 03:39.02 | FirstSgt | I just got openvpn running on debian5. i can connect with my guest boxes, but cannot ping other ips on the network |
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| 03:45.09 | sivik | i installed the flash plugin but all it displays is a play sign and then when i push it, it just stays blank |
| 03:45.13 | sivik | what am I doing wrong |
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| 03:46.03 | sivik | stuNNed: you around? |
| 03:47.03 | sivik | i guess everyone is dead |
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| 03:57.08 | sivik | is anyone alive in here? |
| 03:57.13 | denysonique | yes |
| 03:57.49 | sivik | you know anything about getting flash working in iceweasel. i installed the plugin but when i hit play, it doesn't show the video and I would rather not have to push play all the time cause some sites have a ton of videos as part of the site |
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| 03:59.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | Hi all, I'm looking for a script which compares the version of a package currently in a repository against one in $other_repository (eg, a local lenny mirror and the current sid version) and notifies me if they are different. Is such a thing already available? (Should I be asking elseware?) |
| 04:00.03 | ferret76 | I am looking for anyone who has installed the Kylin operating system |
| 04:00.13 | ferret76 | sorry for the bold |
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| 04:03.21 | votan | what is thatr? |
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| 04:05.41 | ultraj61 | the kylin operating system is the chinese secure os |
| 04:05.50 | ferret76 | thats it |
| 04:05.54 | ultraj61 | based on one of the bdss |
| 04:06.27 | ultraj61 | a national operating system for personal computers |
| 04:06.34 | ultraj61 | terrifying lol |
| 04:06.37 | ferret76 | you can try to download it from the website http://www.kylin.org.cn/ download.htm |
| 04:06.43 | ferret76 | it does not work though |
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| 04:06.54 | ultraj61 | why are you doing it right? |
| 04:07.13 | ferret76 | I found it and installed it |
| 04:07.37 | ferret76 | it is really bsd with linux distros and a windows interface |
| 04:07.56 | ferret76 | I installed it on as a virtual machine and testing it out |
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| 04:08.17 | ultraj61 | cool did you monitor its network traffic? |
| 04:08.25 | ferret76 | yup with snort |
| 04:08.43 | ultraj61 | i would assume they would have somekind of botnet ability for it so they can utilize it as a weapon or something |
| 04:08.47 | ferret76 | have not analzed the traffic yet |
| 04:08.57 | ferret76 | yeah thats what I was thinking |
| 04:09.09 | ferret76 | it is loaded for bear |
| 04:09.26 | ferret76 | it comes with snort, tripwire, and all sorts of goodies precompiled |
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| 04:10.14 | ferret76 | I am a bsd guy and it really acts more like linux |
| 04:10.16 | ultraj61 | and a prc backdoor |
| 04:11.44 | ultraj61 | i wonder if it censors |
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| 04:13.24 | krphop | in debian 4, where are the IP tables rulesets stored? |
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| 04:15.41 | omid8bimo | morning all |
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| 04:16.57 | stew | krphop: unless you are using some kind of system like shorewall or apf or firehol or whatver, they are stored wherever you store them, or nowhere |
| 04:17.29 | krphop | i ment for startup, but looks like this box is using firehol |
| 04:17.39 | krphop | so i found them :-) thanks! |
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| 04:21.53 | denysonique | how can I tell debian to install a package and its dependencies using the stable archive only? |
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| 04:25.17 | Supaplex | apt-get install -t lenny foo ? check the man page incase I'm wrong. :) |
| 04:25.43 | denysonique | Supaplex: but it installs the testing dependencies |
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| 04:26.39 | Supaplex | cheat. comment anything not stable in sources, update, then install? |
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| 04:27.23 | denysonique | Supaplex: thats not the way to do this |
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| 04:31.05 | rostedt | did the monospace fonts change recently? I just upgraded a few of my boxes (all running testing) and the monospace font changed. This must have been recent since my last update was just a week ago. |
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| 04:32.32 | rostedt | unfortunately, the new font style is a bit sore on the eyes |
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| 04:51.56 | JW | What's generally regarded as the best way to report bugs on a package? |
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| 04:54.23 | dkr | bdo |
| 04:54.54 | dkr | !bts |
| 04:54.54 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 04:59.30 | Supaplex | !reportbug |
| 04:59.30 | dpkg | [reportbug] used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s03.html for some general info about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug |
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| 05:08.52 | zal1 | Hi everyone. I have a question about sata controller based on sil 3152. It works fine in ubuntu 9.04 (default kernel), but does not in debian lenny (with default kernel or 2.6.29 from kernel.org - all the same). In debian after mounting sata hdd connected to controller i can't use mounted dir - I/O error occurs. I don't know what to do, please help) |
| 05:09.39 | warthog | zal1: pastebin the errors |
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| 05:10.10 | zal1 | from dmesg or whqt errors? |
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| 05:10.43 | warthog | dmesg/syslog |
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| 05:11.13 | oh_noes | is it posisble to ask a repo, "whats the latest version of <this> package you have?" |
| 05:12.01 | zal1 | maybe this? |
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| 05:13.50 | oh_noes | lol |
| 05:14.14 | Supaplex | oh_noes: why not pdo? |
| 05:14.27 | oh_noes | whats pdo? |
| 05:14.33 | Supaplex | !pdo |
| 05:14.33 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 05:15.00 | oh_noes | because the packages arent public, they are for an inhouse local repo of custom apps |
| 05:15.10 | warthog | oh_noes: aptitude show $packaganame |
| 05:15.11 | oh_noes | so basically I'm deploying an external facing update style system |
| 05:15.33 | oh_noes | but we want to have support for username and passwords, and other additional stuff BEFORE we allow the client to update |
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| 05:16.22 | ultraj61 | a group based patch management system |
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| 05:16.52 | oh_noes | currently were going to write a quick java web app do handle this, but I'm hoping to reuse the .deb files that reside in our release repository |
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| 05:17.20 | oh_noes | so our java web app can simple, 'can this client pdate based on these rules .. YES .. whats the latest version of the package in the our local repo' |
| 05:17.26 | oh_noes | then send the update out |
| 05:17.27 | Supaplex | quick and java in the same sentence? |
| 05:17.34 | zal | so, can anyone tell me what is happening in my system according to errors listed above? |
| 05:18.05 | Supaplex | !error |
| 05:18.05 | dpkg | user error at console, abort, retry, fail? see also <don't work> |
| 05:18.25 | Supaplex | zal: "what" error? i/o error alone is too vague. |
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| 05:18.48 | \amethyst | zal: you got disconnected for excess flood before anything got pasted; use a pastebin |
| 05:19.13 | ``y7 | how do you release an ip address on eth0 similar to how you could release an ip address on a linksys router? my isp requires that i break the lease with the router (by releasing the ip) in order to switch to another router... |
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| 05:19.38 | Supaplex | ``y7: dhcp? ifdown eth0 |
| 05:20.01 | ``y7 | then ifup eth0 to renew it? |
| 05:20.12 | Supaplex | yea |
| 05:20.14 | ``y7 | ty sir |
| 05:20.27 | \amethyst | ``y7: you have do do dhclient -r to send ax explicit release to the server |
| 05:20.30 | \amethyst | s/ax/an/ |
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| 05:20.50 | Supaplex | !tell zal -about paste |
| 05:20.54 | Supaplex | !tell zal -about msg |
| 05:21.05 | ``y7 | \amethyst, the ifdown eth0 won't work? |
| 05:21.39 | Supaplex | well, last time I was tshooting my dhcpd, I thought it was released by ifdown. I could be mistaken. |
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| 05:22.13 | \amethyst | ``y7: you have to do that first, then dhclient -r |
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| 05:22.57 | zal | Supaplex: oh, sorry |
| 05:23.01 | ``y7 | awesome, thx for all the help guys |
| 05:23.18 | \amethyst | ``y7: hm, I may be wrong.. it might be doing it automatically |
| 05:23.56 | Supaplex | you mean automagically ;) heh ehe |
| 05:24.17 | ``y7 | i'll go test it out now, wish me luck :D |
| 05:25.30 | zal | so, again, my errors in proper format: http://paste.debian.net/plain/36688 ) not pasting) |
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| 05:29.25 | zal | At least please tell me in what direction should i searching for. |
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| 05:33.02 | Supaplex | http://www.google.com/search?q=exception+Emask+0x0+SAct+0x0+SErr+0x0+action+0x6+frozen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
| 05:33.51 | Supaplex | zal: one post suggested buying a sata II cable fixed their issue. can't say why it doesn't happen else where. it can't hurt to check your hardware anyway. |
| 05:35.32 | zal | Thank you for answer. The thing is, that this controller+hdd+cable works fine as part of the different computer, but i will recheck it again. |
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| 05:55.06 | superlinux | hello |
| 05:55.37 | superlinux | i wanna turn my mobile to a web cam on linux. do u know of any? |
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| 05:56.15 | Supaplex | g1 phone |
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| 05:57.01 | superlinux | Supaplex can i have their site |
| 05:58.17 | Supaplex | you want your mobile phone to be a webcam, right? all running linux? |
| 05:59.39 | superlinux | i want only to route the mobile camera video streams routed to skype really |
| 05:59.42 | osfd | and a toaster |
| 05:59.56 | superlinux | i wanna turn it as a skype web cam |
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| 06:00.54 | Supaplex | oh, well nm g1. it's running android on a cell phone. |
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| 06:01.18 | superlinux | there is on windows Mobiola |
| 06:01.40 | superlinux | Mobiola webcam and mobiola headset |
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| 06:02.41 | superlinux | and the good thing about it u can route the camera to your computer over usb and bluetooth and wifi |
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| 06:02.53 | aaron_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:05.31 | spal | does vim-full contain gvim also? |
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| 06:06.36 | ryanc- | spal: i think so |
| 06:06.38 | stew | spal: vim-gtk does |
| 06:07.21 | superlinux | Supaplex the mobiola website is www.warelex.com |
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| 06:09.26 | hoohah | i'm using tor on localhost to tunnel traffic to irc server. As a user, with iptables allowing all outbound traffic, i've notice irregularities in the connection. Would hosts.(deny,allow etc) or similar be affecting tor? |
| 06:09.36 | hoohah | does my user need to have elevated privileges? |
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| 06:12.13 | Supaplex | superlinux: that's nice. |
| 06:12.44 | superlinux | it really works Supaplex |
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| 06:12.51 | superlinux | i tried it |
| 06:12.52 | Supaplex | I'm kinda busy. |
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| 06:13.11 | superlinux | and moreover, just one thing! i'll leave ya |
| 06:13.32 | superlinux | you can send your mobile screen live over your skype |
| 06:14.40 | ultraj6 | who uses debian at their job? |
| 06:15.07 | spal | ultraj6: I have used Debian at my job for all work for 2 years. |
| 06:15.16 | spal | now I use Debian at work say, for 20% of my time. |
| 06:15.36 | superlinux | ultraj6 me |
| 06:15.41 | jorgensen | ultraj6: me too. 100 % for the last 18 months. It's great. |
| 06:15.41 | superlinux | i do |
| 06:15.53 | superlinux | i use i as my desktop |
| 06:16.03 | spal | I use it as my desktop too. |
| 06:16.52 | superlinux | and i had a hp compaq ml150 proliant server and turned to a desktop. it was a used one |
| 06:17.19 | superlinux | i used to see 4 CPU on it |
| 06:17.26 | superlinux | i had 2U CPU |
| 06:17.45 | jorgensen | by now two thirds of our servers are debian. only have 1 windows one left, the rest are deadrat/centos |
| 06:17.46 | superlinux | Xeon of course |
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| 06:18.33 | superlinux | jorgensen the windows one is for office use? isn;t? |
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| 06:19.26 | jorgensen | superlinux: ms exchange :-( but hopefully this will change in the next 12 months to e.g. zimbra or the like |
| 06:19.34 | superlinux | ok |
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| 06:21.02 | RainbowW | what's the gnome equiv to the start-kde script in lenny? to go eg in xstartup. exec gnome-session & in my start script gives me a pretty background but no control knobs. |
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| 06:24.26 | dkr | maybe you had a session file overriding the default of /usr/share/gnome/default.session which start6s up the wm,panel, nautilus? |
| 06:24.50 | dkr | you could just run gnome-wm, gnome-panel and nautilus yourself I guess |
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| 06:25.12 | RainbowW | i'll check. i know i never modified that file but who iknows. |
| 06:28.01 | valdyn | RainbowW: gnome-session *is* the equivalent |
| 06:28.21 | valdyn | RainbowW: and that should be last in your .xsession like "exec gnome-session" |
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| 06:29.37 | valdyn | RainbowW: dont start programs that support session management manually from your "startup script" |
| 06:29.53 | valdyn | RainbowW: that includes nautilus, gnome-panel etc |
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| 06:32.58 | RainbowW | exec gnome-session ... or exec gnome-session & ... ? |
| 06:33.01 | vy | Hi! What's the logic behind a dhclient daemon in lenny? What fires it up during init? |
| 06:33.07 | valdyn | RainbowW: no & |
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| 06:33.34 | valdyn | vy: depends |
| 06:33.41 | valdyn | vy: is network-manager installed? |
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| 06:33.52 | vy | valdyn: No. |
| 06:34.03 | valdyn | vy: then its /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 06:34.50 | vy | Hrm... I didn't recognize the "dhcp" entry in the very first "iface" line. Thanks. |
| 06:35.13 | vy | BTW, why a "daemon" for a dhcpclient? |
| 06:36.08 | valdyn | vy: what else? you think dhclient should die after it got an ip? |
| 06:36.18 | RainbowW | because it needs to run continually, eg to renew your lease periodically |
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| 06:43.41 | vy | valdyn: Yup. How can I achieve that? |
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| 06:44.34 | vy | RainbowW: There is nothing wrong with it running periodically, but I hate to see it in my "netstat -plunt" output listening on port 63 continuously. |
| 06:44.47 | RainbowW | vy: too bad. |
| 06:45.28 | valdyn | vy: dont you think breaking functionality in order to achieve a nicer netstat output is silly? |
| 06:46.15 | vy | valdyn: Don't you think listening from a port without any security consideration is silly? |
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| 06:46.34 | valdyn | vy: why would you think that theres no security considerations? |
| 06:47.03 | vy | valdyn: Cause I can connect to that port from any machine on the network and it just accept the connections. |
| 06:47.09 | valdyn | vy: you wouldnt use dhcp if you didnt trust the dhcp server, which means you wouldnt use dhcp if you didnt trust the local net |
| 06:47.30 | valdyn | vy: *every* network server does that |
| 06:47.38 | valdyn | vy: its not a security hole |
| 06:47.44 | Dassu | Hmm... How do I change the action which happens when power button is pressed. I seem to find alot of contradicting information from google |
| 06:47.46 | vy | valdyn: But that's a *home* computer, not a DHCP server. |
| 06:47.56 | valdyn | vy: its a dhcp client |
| 06:48.37 | vy | valdyn: So why does it listen on a port like a server. |
| 06:48.38 | valdyn | vy: try if your *secure* ssh accepts any connection. You should see that it will |
| 06:48.59 | vy | valdyn: Because it is a *server*, not a *client* program. |
| 06:49.06 | valdyn | hehe |
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| 06:49.27 | Seneyarau | Guys, I'm getting a: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting" message after puting startx in .bashrc. It doesn't work when using "console" or "anybody" in "allowed_users" in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. Any ideas? |
| 06:49.33 | valdyn | vy: this is pointless, read the rfcs about dhcp |
| 06:49.42 | valdyn | vy: i didnt implement it or develop it |
| 06:49.51 | vy | valdyn: Yes, you're right. I'll fill a bug report. |
| 06:50.00 | RainbowW | vy: you're being an idiot. if you want to shut it down, shut it down, fine. just don't come complaining when, a few hours later, your computer stops talking on the net. |
| 06:50.11 | RainbowW | that would be an entertaining bug report to read. |
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| 06:51.16 | vy | RainbowW: I still couldn't make you understand that I don't want to shut it down, so rest is pointless with you. |
| 06:51.51 | RainbowW | vy: i understand what you want, but, per the spec, what you want isn't possible. if you want to firewall it, use ipchains, but again, don't come bitching when your computer stops talking on the net after a few hours. |
| 06:53.05 | valdyn | dhcp is already per definition insecure |
| 06:53.11 | valdyn | trying to secure it is silly |
| 06:53.52 | vy | RainbowW: I've dozens of old debian systems that don't have any dhclient *daemon* running in the background, and they are installed like that by default. So you claim that debian's dhcp stuff is broken (due to spec) since years. |
| 06:54.12 | vy | Until lenny... |
| 06:54.14 | valdyn | vy: more like you havent enabled dhcp on this boxes |
| 06:54.28 | creature_ | so when i move my mouse on top of the tasks in gnome-panel i get 100% CPU usage and the mouse gets all laggy, what would be causing this? |
| 06:54.51 | valdyn | creature_: what is "tasks" |
| 06:55.04 | valdyn | creature_: you mean minimised windows? |
| 06:55.10 | creature_ | valdyn: yes, the tasks |
| 06:55.20 | valdyn | creature_: its not tasks |
| 06:55.25 | valdyn | creature_: its windows |
| 06:55.33 | valdyn | creature_: are you using compiz? |
| 06:55.39 | creature_ | no |
| 06:55.50 | creature_ | im using the Gnome environment lenny ships with |
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| 06:56.03 | valdyn | creature_: never seen that behaviour |
| 06:56.19 | creature_ | yea my other lenny doesn't have this behaviour |
| 06:56.31 | creature_ | how am i gonna debug whats wrong? |
| 06:56.36 | valdyn | creature_: do you see those small yellow notifications with the name in it? |
| 06:56.43 | creature_ | yea |
| 06:56.56 | valdyn | creature_: run top, see which process it is |
| 06:57.01 | creature_ | but how does loading them cause 100% CPU load |
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| 06:57.26 | creature_ | valdyn: well X-server takes 80% and gnome-panel 10% when im moving my mouse on top of the windows |
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| 06:58.46 | creature_ | guess ill try restarting X |
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| 06:59.05 | valdyn | creature_: does it ever eat cpu without mouse over minimised windows? |
| 06:59.29 | creature_ | valdyn: noup |
| 06:59.37 | RainbowW | so when running exec gnome-session per my previous discussion, all i get is this: http://picpaste.com/gursh.png ... very pretty, but not very helpful. |
| 06:59.42 | creature_ | mouse moves just fine on other parts of the gnome-panel |
| 06:59.50 | creature_ | no extra CPU load |
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| 07:01.02 | valdyn | RainbowW: ctrl-alt-f1, log in as same user as you are in X, run a a few commands like "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal &", "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-panel &", go back to X ( ctrl-alt-f7 ), run gnome-session-save |
| 07:02.15 | Posterdati | hi |
| 07:02.27 | Posterdati | please how can I activate remote login using kdm? Tx |
| 07:02.34 | valdyn | creature_: are you running ubuntu? |
| 07:02.49 | creature_ | valdyn: no Debian Lenny |
| 07:04.18 | valdyn | creature_: try of killall gam_server fixes it |
| 07:04.22 | valdyn | creature_: try if killall gam_server fixes it |
| 07:05.33 | RainbowW | Posterdati, bad idea. apparently the new interface in kde doesn't work very well over vnc (which is why i'm doing this gnome thing). |
| 07:05.38 | valdyn | creature_: and if that doesnt fix it, "ls -l /etc/xdg/debian-menu.menu" |
| 07:06.29 | valdyn | creature_: uh, or "/etc/xdg/menu/debian-menu.menu" even |
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| 07:08.43 | anoHito | anyone is awake? |
| 07:09.33 | anoHito | RainbowW, ok |
| 07:09.55 | anoHito | I have a site, this site use php + mysql, i have the mysql backup |
| 07:10.10 | anoHito | now i have a new hdd ,so that i need to restore the site. |
| 07:10.22 | anoHito | i have tried it in 2 different methon: |
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| 07:11.10 | anoHito | 1. i attached the old hdd to the server via usb port,then copy the entire files under that user account to the current server in the same places, when i try to access to the site, mysql error |
| 07:11.36 | anoHito | 2. i use ftp client to upload the entire file to the same places in the current server,no problem at all. |
| 07:11.47 | anoHito | any idea? |
| 07:12.10 | RainbowW | mysql isn't my strong suit. i know that phpmyadmin will export a database as a sequence of sql commands. i imagine that simply dumping the database files ... er ... won't work, as you've discovered. |
| 07:12.10 | valdyn | anoHito: this isnt a mysql dump of the database? |
| 07:12.41 | anoHito | RainbowW, and valdyn , you misunderstood. |
| 07:12.42 | valdyn | every db has a dump feature... |
| 07:13.00 | valdyn | with a corresponding restore feature... |
| 07:13.01 | anoHito | i mean, with the same mysql backups, yes,from mysqldump. |
| 07:13.39 | anoHito | seepgood, with the same mysql database data, if i use ftp to upload the rest of stuff ,no problem. |
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| 07:14.02 | anoHito | except i just copy the rest of stuff directly from the orginal places, shit happens. |
| 07:14.50 | valdyn | anoHito: sounds like an issue with permissions |
| 07:14.59 | valdyn | anoHito: i dont understand why you dont just use the working method |
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| 07:15.25 | anoHito | what is that ? |
| 07:15.38 | valdyn | anoHito: thats 2. |
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| 07:16.12 | anoHito | hi valdyn , it is strange |
| 07:16.34 | anoHito | valdyn, there is folder there contains all the user files in /home/user/public_html/ |
| 07:16.58 | anoHito | i used tar zcf public_html.tar.gz public_html |
| 07:17.24 | anoHito | after its done,i unpack that file, strange is, the construction in the file are changed. |
| 07:17.41 | anoHito | the path, and blah, they are not like the originals. |
| 07:17.45 | valdyn | anoHito: WHAT changed? permissions? |
| 07:18.23 | anoHito | i haven't checked permissons. |
| 07:18.34 | anoHito | i just found the constructions are changed. |
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| 07:18.45 | valdyn | anoHito: what is "constructions" ? |
| 07:18.48 | anoHito | for example some new path are added ,some are gone,some are changed. |
| 07:19.00 | valdyn | anoHito: nah, tar does not change paths |
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| 07:19.55 | kronic | I've got an issue with iwl3945, where I have to insmod for it to work, modprobe doesn't, my modprobe.d/00local has install iwl3945 /bin/true, is this normal? |
| 07:20.23 | anoHito | valdyn, weird,they do changed. |
| 07:20.27 | valdyn | kronic: thats a file created by who? |
| 07:20.35 | kronic | its in the system |
| 07:20.41 | valdyn | kronic: who put it there? |
| 07:20.52 | kronic | I used ipw3945 prior to 2.6.26 |
| 07:21.11 | valdyn | kronic: thats certainly not a debian file |
| 07:21.39 | valdyn | kronic: and it does disable ipw3945 loading |
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| 07:22.30 | kronic | I'll remove it, reboot and see how I go |
| 07:22.58 | RainbowW | gnome-session-save didn't work. i get: Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display ":1:0". Could not connect to the session manager. Note that display 1 (not display 0) is correct as this is a vnc session. |
| 07:23.28 | valdyn | RainbowW: you ran that *in* X ? |
| 07:23.53 | RainbowW | yes, from the terminal. |
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| 07:24.38 | kronic | done the job, cheers |
| 07:24.44 | valdyn | RainbowW: this is a whole broken system, what is it? |
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| 07:25.39 | valdyn | RainbowW: randr missing is not a problem |
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| 07:25.55 | valdyn | RainbowW: but your gnome-session-save not being able to talk to the gnome-session program is |
| 07:26.11 | RainbowW | i don't understand your question. this is a remote server upon which i'm attempting to run squeeze with either kde (which -sucks- under vnc now with 4.2) or gnome (which doesn't suck but likewise doesn't run on this box). |
| 07:26.52 | valdyn | RainbowW: is gnome-session running? |
| 07:27.30 | RainbowW | yup. process 3453 pts/1 |
| 07:27.41 | valdyn | RainbowW: show your xstartup file |
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| 07:28.33 | valdyn | i thought vnc would use some higher numbers, like 10: |
| 07:28.48 | valdyn | i thought vnc would use some higher numbers, like :10:0 |
| 07:29.05 | valdyn | guess that depends on which vnc server you use |
| 07:29.25 | RainbowW | http://pastebin.ca/1429687 |
| 07:29.35 | RainbowW | it's configurable by the user. |
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| 07:29.48 | qiyong | dh_clean: I have no package to build |
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| 07:31.17 | valdyn | RainbowW: does /etc/vnc/xstartup exist? |
| 07:31.36 | RainbowW | no |
| 07:31.46 | RainbowW | that file is ~.vnc/xstartup |
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| 07:32.22 | valdyn | RainbowW: sure, but it refers to /etc/vnc/xstartup, which it shouldnt, but which doesnt hurt if that file doesnt exist |
| 07:32.53 | RainbowW | cd /etc/vnc produces a 404 for the directory, soooo anything else in that path must likewise also be 404 :-) |
| 07:32.57 | valdyn | RainbowW: what does "apt-get -f install" give? |
| 07:33.19 | RainbowW | 0 upg, 0 newly installed, 0- to remove, 0 not upgrade |
| 07:33.24 | anoHito | valdyn, with tar zcf it wont change folders constructions from the originals ? |
| 07:33.32 | valdyn | anoHito: sure not |
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| 07:33.57 | anoHito | valdyn, how can i unpack a tar.gz file with only one command and keep the original folders constructions ? |
| 07:34.09 | RainbowW | anoHito, gunzip < tarfile.tar.gz | tar xvf - |
| 07:34.18 | valdyn | oh, thats the long version |
| 07:34.26 | valdyn | tar zxf file.tar.gz |
| 07:35.45 | valdyn | RainbowW: i dont know where vnc server logs errors, probably its too ~/.xsession-errors |
| 07:36.06 | RainbowW | 404 on that as well |
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| 07:37.08 | valdyn | RainbowW: i think your dbus is broken |
| 07:37.15 | valdyn | RainbowW: but cant see that without the logs |
| 07:38.16 | valdyn | RainbowW: maybe if you restart dbus that fixes itself |
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| 07:40.48 | RainbowW | i've done so many hard kills on this thing, i think a restart is in order. |
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| 07:41.02 | RainbowW | with any luck it'll come back up in a couple minutes. |
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| 07:45.49 | RainbowW | ah. duh. found the log. amazing what happens when you pay attention. (and, restarting the vncserver, I still get the same, background without gnome-panel etc). http://pastebin.com/m468ea7eb |
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| 07:49.04 | RainbowW | valdyn, any clue? |
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| 07:50.50 | ham5 | you dont need vnc give it up |
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| 07:51.23 | RainbowW | you're right, i don't. i'll give it up if you'll field the bitching calls from the user. |
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| 07:52.51 | ham5 | no sweat... he will get as much help as you. |
| 07:52.53 | ham5 | ;) |
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| 07:54.09 | hellochina | i just download the disc of Debian,can install debian from the usb storage? |
| 07:54.10 | ham5 | running sid or what? |
| 07:54.16 | hellochina | yes isd |
| 07:54.29 | hellochina | sid,sorry |
| 07:54.30 | hellochina | for my pour english |
| 07:54.49 | ham5 | not talking to you |
| 07:54.59 | ham5 | u didnt dl sid |
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| 07:55.04 | RainbowW | oh. me. no. squeeze. |
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| 07:56.01 | ham5 | ahh |
| 07:56.14 | ham5 | mabey its just your packages go back to stable? |
| 07:56.27 | RainbowW | you can't go back in that way. |
| 07:57.29 | ham5 | well yea... has it worked before? I dont know I dont even really know what your problem is im just pitching out |
| 07:58.37 | RainbowW | i had previously been using kde 3.x. the squeeze push of 4.2 totally gorked the display, because the new kde display thing simply looks like crap over vnc (not related to kde -- it's a vncserver issue). i'm trying to switch to gnome because it doesn't look nearly so bad, but i can't get it to start correctly. |
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| 07:59.37 | creature_ | whats a good tool to get information about your NIC? |
| 07:59.50 | RainbowW | creature_, depends what information you want. |
| 08:00.05 | superlinux | creature_ i think there is a one |
| 08:00.07 | creature_ | like what kinds of shit it supports |
| 08:00.35 | superlinux | just search in the apt-cache keyword "eth" |
| 08:00.38 | RainbowW | that's a doc and driver issue. |
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| 08:01.02 | superlinux | use by pkg title |
| 08:01.36 | superlinux | apt-cache pkgnames eth |
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| 08:03.52 | cahoot | as you can see the relevance of the answers is directly related to the quality of your question creature_ |
| 08:04.20 | superlinux | creature_ ethtool |
| 08:04.25 | superlinux | !ethtool |
| 08:04.29 | creature_ | yea thats the one |
| 08:04.42 | superlinux | dpkg! ethtool |
| 08:04.48 | superlinux | dpkg ethtool |
| 08:04.48 | dpkg | wish i knew, superlinux |
| 08:05.11 | superlinux | creature_ ok good |
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| 08:16.27 | kronic | I've got a problem with network-manager in gnome, my wifi nic is enabled (has an extension with iwconfig), however I can't configure it via network-manager |
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| 08:18.25 | cahoot | kronic: (it shouldn't be there if you want to use n-m) |
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| 08:21.23 | kali67 | on a debian etch box, do I need to make a parition for creating a filesystem ? We got a box from our vendor with a 4+ TB raid 5 box and the device shows no partition |
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| 08:38.14 | valdyn | kali67: why would you use partitions? |
| 08:38.15 | hoxu | kali67, you usually create partition table on disks... you could use the whole disk for a filesystem, but it's not recommended |
| 08:38.22 | valdyn | kali67: what are you going to boot from? |
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| 08:38.51 | valdyn | kali67: filesystems are on block devices, that *can* be a partition but does not have to be |
| 08:39.29 | kali67 | valdyn: have a separate , os drive that I boot from |
| 08:39.45 | valdyn | kali67: you want to use lvm on huge storage |
| 08:39.57 | valdyn | kali67: unless you are certain that partition size will never change |
| 08:40.08 | kali67 | hoxu: that was my impression , but this is the first time that I saw fs on a device |
| 08:41.10 | kali67 | valdyn: good point |
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| 08:41.56 | valdyn | kali67: whatever you use in the end, could still be on a partition, or directly on the raid, it doesnt make a difference really |
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| 08:42.37 | anoHito | hi guys, when i am doing some online unpack tasks, when the source file is big,i meet your connection has timed out, which option in which file i can adjust it ? |
| 08:42.52 | kali67 | valdyn: so if i have say /dev/sdc on a raid controller, i don't really need to partition it ? |
| 08:42.59 | valdyn | kali67: i would probably create multiple partitions and use as few as i need in my volume group |
| 08:43.04 | mmp | hello; I have a box with debian testing installed; and I would like to have there either KDE3 or KDE4 installed |
| 08:43.21 | valdyn | kali67: i thought you were talking about partitioning the raid |
| 08:43.21 | hoxu | kali67, you don't need to, but not partitioning it might confuse people |
| 08:43.30 | mmp | unfortunately, it looks like the packages in repo are both KDE3 and KDE4, and some of KDE4 are missing |
| 08:43.36 | mmp | so the install is messed up so far |
| 08:43.42 | valdyn | kali67: partitioning raid members kills the raid |
| 08:43.53 | valdyn | kali67: but raid members can be partitions |
| 08:44.00 | kali67 | hoxu: as it confused me :) |
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| 08:44.23 | kali67 | valdyn: I didn't quite understand that. the raid 5 is h/w based |
| 08:44.29 | valdyn | kali67: ok then |
| 08:45.20 | valdyn | kali67: think about what kind of flexibility you need first |
| 08:45.42 | kali67 | valdyn: I've googled around, but could not find much info on non-partitioned fs directly on device. every article talks about using parted for large fs . can u point me to some sites please ? |
| 08:45.53 | valdyn | kali67: why? |
| 08:45.59 | valdyn | kali67: mkfs /dev/sdc -> done |
| 08:46.28 | valdyn | kali67: or if you want to create a partition, do it, its no big difference |
| 08:47.10 | valdyn | kali67: obviously theres only one block device with sdc directory and obviously you could have multiple partitions |
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| 08:47.19 | valdyn | s/directory/directly/ |
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| 08:47.32 | kali67 | valdyn: any chances of system instability ? when the system boots , does it look for a partition table to do an fs check ? |
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| 08:47.43 | valdyn | kali67: no |
| 08:48.01 | valdyn | kali67: your kernel looks for a partition table and will report "unknown partition table" |
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| 08:48.06 | RainbowW | valdyn: (dunno if you saw, re my vncserver thing) duh. found the log. amazing what happens when you pay attention. (and, restarting the vncserver, I still get the same, background without gnome-panel etc). http://pastebin.com/m468ea7eb |
| 08:48.23 | kali67 | valdyn: right , that's the message I see in the logs |
| 08:48.26 | valdyn | kali67: the fsck is dependant on /etc/fstab |
| 08:48.35 | SparFux | In debian there is a group netdev. What is its purpose? Can't I run wireshark and see all interfaces of my networks when group netdev is active? |
| 08:48.44 | valdyn | kali67: i get alot of those, because theres no point at all in my setup to have any partition |
| 08:49.31 | kali67 | valdyn: you do a lot of setup with fs directly on device ? |
| 08:49.43 | valdyn | kali67: i.e., my storage is devided into raids, i dont need partitions on my raids |
| 08:49.58 | valdyn | kali67: no, im using lvm |
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| 08:50.29 | valdyn | kali67: fs on lvm on mdadm raid with partitions as members |
| 08:50.47 | valdyn | kali67: where each mdadm raid produces that message |
| 08:51.41 | valdyn | kali67: the usefulness of partitions on disks straight is that you can have type ids on partitions |
| 08:51.53 | valdyn | kali67: and that type id can tell what that partition is supposed to contain |
| 08:52.15 | kali67 | valdyn: like the fs type ? |
| 08:52.23 | hoxu | partition tables are a nice, comfortable way of telling someone else not to toast your data because he thinks there's nothing in there |
| 08:52.39 | valdyn | kali67: not exactly |
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| 08:52.56 | valdyn | kali67: theres only so many type ids assigned for something, check out the list in fdisk |
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| 08:53.16 | anoHito | hi valdyn i need your help please. |
| 08:53.37 | valdyn | kali67: one id for linux swap, one id for linux, one id for linux raid autodetect, etc |
| 08:53.40 | anoHito | when i am doing some online decompress tasks,(tar.gz) when the source file is big,i meet your connection has timed out, which option in which file i can adjus it ? |
| 08:54.01 | anoHito | it is related to php.ini ? httpd.conf ? or my.cnf whatever ? |
| 08:54.03 | kali67 | valdyn: got it |
| 08:54.36 | hoxu | anoHito, ask on ##php |
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| 08:54.58 | valdyn | kali67: if you *know* that you dont need much flexibility, use partition or no partition, if you know you might need flexibility, use lvm |
| 08:55.36 | valdyn | kali67: lvm can live migrate a system to new storage... |
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| 08:57.25 | valdyn | anoHito: use the v option |
| 08:57.38 | valdyn | anoHito: your router is fucking you up when theres no traffic |
| 08:58.02 | sylar | I get these errors in synaptic: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.E: Unable to lock the download directory |
| 08:58.09 | sylar | how can I fix it? |
| 08:58.12 | kali67 | valdyn:live migrate ? that is interesting , right now i have a 4 port raid controller and 4 1.5 TB hard drives . how would live migrate work in a scenario like this ? |
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| 08:58.45 | valdyn | kali67: obviously you would have to connect new storage first |
| 08:58.53 | valdyn | kali67: which i cant know how you would do |
| 08:59.02 | kali67 | valdyn: theortically, I could swap out the 4 port controller for an 8 port controller , add 4 more drives and then migrate ? |
| 08:59.20 | valdyn | kali67: if that controller can do 2 raids at a time |
| 08:59.52 | kali67 | valdyn: ok , this is getting interesting and complex |
| 09:00.02 | valdyn | kali67: im not sure it makes sense to explain when you dont understand lvm yet but |
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| 09:00.50 | kali67 | valdyn: I don't have a complete understanding of the ins and outs of lvm but have created a couple of boxes with lvms on them. |
| 09:00.51 | valdyn | kali67: basically you extend the volume group with that new raid, then you move the logical volumes ( = partitions ) to the new physical storage, then you remove the old storage from the volume group |
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| 09:01.17 | valdyn | kali67: and thats just few shell commands |
| 09:02.45 | kali67 | valdyn: thanks a lot for your time. this session is very informational and educational |
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| 09:12.50 | RainbowW | valdyn, did you see my log re the vncserver thing? |
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| 09:15.47 | hashendgame | When debianising a package, Does debian/control need to include deps on autoconf/automake/libtool if the relevant files aren't regenerated? I could understand if it configure.ac gets patched or something... |
| 09:18.45 | valdyn | RainbowW: yea |
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| 09:19.49 | RainbowW | valdyn, any clue? :-) |
| 09:20.09 | valdyn | RainbowW: i dont see a fatal error in there |
| 09:20.23 | anoHito | valdyn, may i ask ? |
| 09:20.50 | valdyn | RainbowW: but General.ad should exist |
| 09:20.57 | valdyn | RainbowW: so looking into that |
| 09:21.04 | anoHito | valdyn, in /var/lib/mysql , i do see there is file named cdb_stats.MYD ,but i cannot copy it to other place by using cp -a, nor can i do ls for it, says invalid argument |
| 09:21.16 | valdyn | anoHito: broken filesystem |
| 09:21.16 | anoHito | valdyn, but other .MYD files do not have problems. |
| 09:21.40 | anoHito | gees |
| 09:21.46 | anoHito | is there a resolution to fix it ? |
| 09:21.55 | valdyn | RainbowW: does /etc/gnome/config/General.ad exist? |
| 09:22.19 | RainbowW | valdyn, no, only thing in there is /xrdb |
| 09:22.32 | valdyn | RainbowW: use confmiss to reinstall gnome-settings-daemon |
| 09:22.35 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 09:22.35 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 09:24.05 | valdyn | !judd: versions gnome-settings-daemon |
| 09:24.08 | valdyn | judd: versions gnome-settings-daemon |
| 09:24.10 | judd | valdyn: gnome-settings-daemon -- lenny: 2.22.2.1-2 squeeze: 2.22.2.1-2 sid: 2.24.1-3 |
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| 09:24.25 | valdyn | hmm, nevermind, this file cant exist in squeeze |
| 09:24.40 | tdn | I have a fit-PC with an on board chip for hardware accelerated AES. There is a module for this that is loaded by default geode_aes. How do I make dmcrypt/LUKS use this module? |
| 09:24.45 | RainbowW | uh. oh. |
| 09:24.48 | RainbowW | why not? |
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| 09:25.05 | valdyn | RainbowW: because it doesnt exist in lenny, and the package versions are identical |
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| 09:26.07 | RainbowW | so now where? are you out of ideas, cuz i sure am :-) |
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| 09:26.40 | valdyn | RainbowW: no, out of understanding the ideas i have |
| 09:26.48 | valdyn | RainbowW: remove those useless lines in xstartup |
| 09:27.21 | valdyn | RainbowW: thats probably all but the last, but i dont have the old paste anymore |
| 09:27.39 | RainbowW | http://pastebin.ca/1429687 |
| 09:28.40 | valdyn | RainbowW: ok, line 4 needs to go away, i dont understand what it does |
| 09:28.54 | valdyn | RainbowW: the other things dont hurt |
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| 09:36.25 | anoHito | valdyn, hmm i cannot even tar zcf those MYD files, i have 4 of them got error,says can't stat,invalid argument. |
| 09:36.34 | anoHito | cannot move them, cannot copy them. |
| 09:36.40 | anoHito | cannot ls them |
| 09:36.41 | valdyn | anoHito: i know, broken filesystem |
| 09:36.52 | anoHito | but i run ls in the folder,i can see them. |
| 09:36.53 | valdyn | anoHito: run fsck when its not mounted |
| 09:37.06 | valdyn | anoHito: the ls read the directory, not the file |
| 09:37.10 | valdyn | anoHito: the ls reads the directory, not the file |
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| 09:37.22 | anoHito | valdyn, please tell me exactly ,now that HDD is mounted in /media/usb . |
| 09:37.27 | RainbowW | anoHito, if you don't have root on this box, you're screwed. you need to unmount the drive, run fsck, and see what happens. you may or may not be able to recover. |
| 09:37.28 | anoHito | as sdb |
| 09:37.30 | valdyn | anoHito: unmount it, fsck it |
| 09:37.35 | anoHito | the actualy partition is sdb3. |
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| 09:37.51 | RainbowW | umount /dev/sdb3; fsck /dev/sdb3 |
| 09:37.58 | RainbowW | do NOT run fsck if umount fails |
| 09:38.17 | anoHito | valdyn, i mean, i can ls that folder, i can see those 4 MYD files are in it. |
| 09:38.33 | valdyn | anoHito: yes, i told you, ls read the directory, not the file |
| 09:38.38 | valdyn | anoHito: yes, i told you, ls reads the directory, not the file |
| 09:38.45 | themill | !typosmite valdyn |
| 09:38.45 | dpkg | makes valdyn raed alll fo "Wra and Paece" in rnadm ordr. |
| 09:38.51 | anoHito | i dont get it, RainbowW ,since it is umount, how fsck will communciate with it ? |
| 09:38.51 | themill | :P |
| 09:38.56 | valdyn | hehee |
| 09:38.59 | RainbowW | anoHito, magic. |
| 09:39.19 | anoHito | let me try |
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| 09:40.07 | anoHito | umount: /dev/sdb3: not mounted |
| 09:40.17 | anoHito | fsck /dev/sdb3 ? |
| 09:40.26 | anoHito | do i need to use some options ? |
| 09:40.36 | valdyn | anoHito: stop this |
| 09:40.38 | RainbowW | yup. although i suspect your database files aren't actually on sdb3 ... |
| 09:40.44 | anoHito | ? |
| 09:40.58 | valdyn | anoHito: if the unmount didnt unmount, then it probably was not sdb3 |
| 09:41.16 | anoHito | RainbowW, I connected that HDD to the USB port by using an IDE to USB converter. |
| 09:41.25 | themill | anoHito: please start pastebinning the actual commands you're using and the actual output rather than saying "ls said invalid argument" or some such. |
| 09:41.35 | anoHito | yes sdb3 is the / partition on that HDD i am very sure |
| 09:41.44 | valdyn | anoHito: then fsck it |
| 09:41.54 | anoHito | oops,sdb3 from the current server , for its own, it is sda3 actually. |
| 09:42.38 | anoHito | themill, whatever i do ls those 4 MYD files, says cannot stat invalid argument. |
| 09:42.46 | anoHito | wait,let me show you. |
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| 09:45.24 | anoHito | hi |
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| 09:45.41 | anoHito | RainbowW, themill , valdyn , please check http://pastebin.ca/1429743 |
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| 09:46.45 | jelly | anoHito: if you think this disk is suspicious _stop_ writing on it now. |
| 09:47.26 | jelly | anoHito: instead, make an image of the partition with important data using dd_rescue, and mount that image instead. |
| 09:48.02 | anoHito | jelly, themill , valdyn , RainbowW ,those 4 files are actually there though http://pastebin.ca/1429745 |
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| 09:48.58 | jelly | anoHito: in fact, after you create the image, make a second copy of the image and run fsck on that, keeping one image pristine. |
| 09:49.03 | anoHito | jelly, i have already bought a new hdd and had it installed,but i need to backup that user mysql datas please :( |
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| 09:49.12 | themill | anoHito: as valdyn has said a number of times, all "ls" shows you is that the directory thinks that there should be 4 files there. It doesn't show you that those files are actually there. Your filesystem seems to be in an inconsistent state. umount, dd_rescue, fsck. |
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| 09:49.27 | RainbowW | so you need to shut down the database instance, unmount the drive, and fsck it. if you want to do that on a dd_rescue image or you want to risk running it on the original, is up to you. the possibility exists that you will lose everything on the drive, so ... you make the decision. |
| 09:49.57 | anoHito | jelly, and themill ,this shit started to happen right after the datacentre forced to shutting down my server with pressing on the pwer botton. |
| 09:49.58 | jelly | RainbowW: there's no database instance, that disk is pulled out of the server and attached via usb to another machine |
| 09:50.23 | themill | anoHito: right... inconsistent filesystem and needs an fsck |
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| 09:50.45 | themill | I think we're all running out of ways of telling you this. |
| 09:50.49 | anoHito | as they received my new hdd in their room, they didnt imform me but shutdown the server manually to prepair to replace the hdd,i CAN not believe it ;( |
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| 09:51.10 | jelly | anoHito: or you could just use your mysql dumps instead of the actual db files. |
| 09:51.19 | anoHito | jelly, yes i have tried. |
| 09:51.21 | RainbowW | if you want a machine shut down properly, truck your ass out to the data center and do it yourself. |
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| 09:51.46 | anoHito | i have tried to reinstalled that HDD in the same server, log in to do mysqldump,but there was an error says a file was not found something. |
| 09:51.57 | anoHito | but i have the mysqldump file handy |
| 09:51.58 | achilles | hello everybody, I have three internet sources each one of them connected to a nic on a debian box, the forth nic acts as a gateway, I'm looking for a mechanism that automatically load balancing the traffic between those sources |
| 09:52.00 | jelly | anoHito: that's very descriptive and helpful. |
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| 09:52.16 | RainbowW | SO YOU NEED TO RUN FSCK like we've told you about 22 times now. |
| 09:52.18 | anoHito | but after i insert to the database, i go to /home/mysql/tangduck_drt/ there are empty . |
| 09:52.41 | jelly | RainbowW: not on the dying drive directly though |
| 09:52.57 | RainbowW | jelly, that depends on how much risk he's willing to tolorate, as i indicated abov e. |
| 09:52.57 | anoHito | jelly, when i do mysqldump from that HDD, i only got one line error,it says: |
| 09:53.10 | jelly | anoHito: I didn't say that! |
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| 09:53.29 | anoHito | jelly, themill , RainbowW ,it says mysqldump: Got error: 29: File './tangduck_drt/cdb_postban_escapelog.MYD' not found (Errcode: 5) when using LOCK TABLES |
| 09:53.35 | anoHito | only that line. |
| 09:53.36 | jelly | anoHito: I said, use your previous dumps and import from there |
| 09:54.01 | jelly | anoHito: do you have any older backups of that db? |
| 09:54.08 | anoHito | jelly, previous dumps ? |
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| 09:54.19 | RainbowW | he doesn't have backups obviously. |
| 09:54.20 | jelly | anoHito: yes... from yesterday, or the day before. |
| 09:54.24 | anoHito | hmm,very old one though. |
| 09:54.37 | anoHito | i think it might be done one year ago or so. |
| 09:54.43 | jelly | RainbowW: nothing is obvious with anoHito. |
| 09:55.00 | jelly | anoHito: ok so you don't have backups. |
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| 09:55.27 | anoHito | RainbowW, the server was running fine except read/write to/from disk was getting slower meantime the system load was high |
| 09:55.34 | anoHito | then i bought a new HDD |
| 09:55.41 | jelly | and you're using xfs. |
| 09:56.07 | anoHito | however the datacentre finally screwed all things up, right after that improper shutting down,the server immediately became very unstable. |
| 09:56.07 | RainbowW | if the load was high, yeah, it'll slow down. so you might want to make your backups best you can with dd_image, and then try an fsck like we've told you 23 times now. |
| 09:56.11 | jelly | anoHito: it _was_ running fine. Now your filesystem isn't fine. |
| 09:56.23 | anoHito | in syslog, i can find many erros,let me check |
| 09:56.36 | valdyn | xfs was doing its internal recovery, that is why load was high |
| 09:57.01 | valdyn | i think he never let that recovery complete properly |
| 09:57.06 | jelly | it didn't recover extremely well, it seems |
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| 09:57.41 | valdyn | or maybe it canot complete because the hardware is broken |
| 09:58.25 | Entmoot | hi |
| 09:58.26 | valdyn | xfs has a dump feature |
| 09:58.37 | valdyn | which probably should have been used long ago |
| 09:58.57 | anoHito | valdyn, jelly , themill ,the syslog right after that shutting down http://pastebin.ca/1429752 |
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| 09:59.21 | valdyn | anoHito: ok, so the disk is physically broken |
| 09:59.36 | anoHito | also ,in 'top' ,when i was seeing the command scsi_eh_1 and ata0/0 or ata0/1 appear in the comamnds list |
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| 09:59.42 | anoHito | at tha time,the load is very high. |
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| 09:59.50 | valdyn | anoHito: thats not your error |
| 10:00.04 | RainbowW | okay valdyn, after removing that line per our other discussion, i'm still getting the same behavior and errors. running gnome-session-save produces "Could not connect to the session manager" ... |
| 10:00.04 | valdyn | anoHito: you probably cannot recover your msql db from that drive |
| 10:00.14 | valdyn | anoHito: i would even say you likely cannot, but |
| 10:00.14 | anoHito | valdyn, but it was okay, its changed immediately right after that improper shutting down. |
| 10:00.28 | valdyn | anoHito: disks do break at some point |
| 10:00.36 | valdyn | anoHito: thats expected |
| 10:00.42 | anoHito | valdyn, all i can do now is umount,the fsck /dev/sdb3 ? |
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| 10:00.49 | valdyn | anoHito: no |
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| 10:00.57 | jelly | anoHito: umount yes, fsck no. |
| 10:00.58 | valdyn | anoHito: unmount the disk at once |
| 10:01.10 | anoHito | why at once ? |
| 10:01.13 | valdyn | anoHito: the dump the whole disk somewhere |
| 10:01.18 | valdyn | anoHito: NOW |
| 10:01.30 | anoHito | dump ? what do you mean ? |
| 10:01.36 | jelly | anoHito: anoHito: use dd_rescue to make an image of sdb or at least all the partitions with important data. Make sure you have enough space on the destination disk. |
| 10:01.43 | valdyn | anoHito: ddrescue /dev/whatever somefile.img |
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| 10:02.07 | jelly | dd_rescue /dev/sdb /path/to/copy-of-sdb.img |
| 10:02.10 | anoHito | with ddrescue,those broken MYD file will come back ? |
| 10:02.13 | valdyn | anoHito: just sda3 maybe |
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| 10:02.34 | valdyn | anoHito: its very hard to work with you if you do not understand the very very basics |
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| 10:02.34 | jelly | anoHito: no, but you'll be able to fsck a copy of that image without ruining the data even more |
| 10:02.59 | anoHito | oh |
| 10:03.02 | valdyn | anoHito: you have broken hardware -> nothing is certain except that you have a high risk of losing the db |
| 10:03.18 | anoHito | hmm |
| 10:03.26 | anoHito | but how can i explain it to the client |
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| 10:03.37 | valdyn | anoHito: thats not our business |
| 10:03.38 | jelly | anoHito: I'd also suggest connecting the drive directly to pata/sata instead of using ata-usb. |
| 10:03.52 | anoHito | but i have already messaged him few days ago before this,he knew it but he was late. |
| 10:04.03 | anoHito | hmm |
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| 10:04.37 | valdyn | anoHito: forget about the client and work on the problem at hand, dump the partition, fsck a *copy* of the dump |
| 10:04.50 | tdn | I have a fit-PC with an on board chip for hardware accelerated AES. There is a module for this that is loaded by default geode_aes. How do I make dmcrypt/LUKS use this module? |
| 10:05.14 | valdyn | tdn: they do this by default? |
| 10:05.29 | valdyn | tdn: they should be using the kernel facilities for crypting |
| 10:05.44 | valdyn | tdn: and if they are not, file a bug |
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| 10:07.12 | susj | running debian on power pc. trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it never asks me about screen resolution? |
| 10:07.21 | tdn | valdyn, well... cryptsetup is just not working, if the geode_aes module is loaded. I need to rmmod it and load the default aes module instaed. |
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| 10:07.29 | anoHito | fsck: fsck.xfs: not found |
| 10:07.29 | valdyn | susj: it does nothing, thats intended |
| 10:07.41 | anoHito | fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.xfs for /dev/sdb3 |
| 10:07.41 | valdyn | anoHito: oh noes, install it |
| 10:07.43 | tdn | valdyn, what about ssh then? Should it use geode_aes also? |
| 10:07.59 | anoHito | which package ? |
| 10:08.04 | mikexcr | susj: what's a machine this mac? |
| 10:08.06 | susj | valdyn: well, how do i adjust screen res, do i have to manually edit xorg.conf? |
| 10:08.08 | valdyn | tdn: nope, i dont know how or if ssh can do it |
| 10:08.11 | UtopiahGHML | hi #debian , so I went at http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ and started the installer, I also downloaded an ISO to get the packages and I put the pool/ folder in C:\Debian\ is it the correct path to have the installer NOT trying to download packages from the LAN/WAN ? (as I won't have access LAN/WAN/USB/CD during the install process) |
| 10:08.53 | mikexcr | susj: try #debianppc |
| 10:08.53 | tdn | valdyn, ok. But you know that LUKS should? |
| 10:08.53 | mikexcr | !ppc |
| 10:08.53 | dpkg | from memory, ppc is is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
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| 10:11.53 | jelly | anoHito: ddrescue |
| 10:12.19 | valdyn | tdn: loading the module should enabled h/w accel for luks |
| 10:12.22 | anoHito | oh. |
| 10:12.23 | jelly | anoHito: use "apt-cache search stuff" to search for available packages |
| 10:12.37 | valdyn | tdn: which means you can easily verify it also |
| 10:12.37 | jelly | anoHito: you'd replace stuff with dd_rescue in this case |
| 10:12.48 | anoHito | thinking it will take a long time to finish 70GIG fsck tasks |
| 10:13.22 | jelly | anoHito: it will also take a long time to copy data off a dying disk. |
| 10:13.24 | valdyn | anoHito: nonsense |
| 10:13.24 | anoHito | very strange, only those 4 MYD files are broken or somethng,everything else seems okay. |
| 10:13.33 | valdyn | anoHito: fsck duration does not directly depend on disk size |
| 10:13.59 | anoHito | oh |
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| 10:14.38 | tdn | valdyn, well. I cannot mount my LUKS partitions when the geode_aes module is loaded. Is this enough to verify that it is indeed a bug? And where should I file the bug? On the Debian cryptsetup package or upstream? |
| 10:14.45 | jelly | anoHito: the important thing is - make an image of the disk. Then make a _copy_ of the image. Then use fsck on that copy. |
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| 10:14.50 | valdyn | tdn: http://www.twam.info/hardware/alix/using-geodes-aes-engine-on-alix3d3 |
| 10:15.12 | RainbowW | of course, the question is, what's the alternative to spending the time on the copy and the fsck? losing the data? which would you prefer? spend the time or lose the data completely? because in the state that drive is in, you will be unable to use it until you fix it one way or another. |
| 10:15.51 | jelly | anoHito: if the data is worth more than $400, consult a professional data recovery service. |
| 10:16.08 | anoHito | for them, this is a pie ? |
| 10:16.15 | anoHito | easy as pie i mean ? |
| 10:16.16 | valdyn | tdn: that page also sais that geode_aes only handles key sizes up to 128 bit |
| 10:16.35 | tdn | valdyn, oh. That may be the problem! |
| 10:16.38 | RainbowW | probably, and you will burn up at least that amount of money in YOUR time dicking with it. |
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| 10:16.54 | tdn | valdyn, I will try to set up luks with 128 bit aes. Maybe that will work. Thanks. |
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| 10:18.17 | Thomaschaaf | I have a lot of vm's and I want all the cronjob mails to go to my e-mail account how do I do that? |
| 10:18.39 | anoHito | jelly, there are only 4 MYD files are borken |
| 10:18.55 | anoHito | jelly, in the meantime, all the rest of files are okay from that user account |
| 10:19.25 | anoHito | jelly, maybe i can just them ,try to reinstall their program to overwrite the current that may fix a bit ,hmm. |
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| 10:20.59 | nkuttler | Thomaschaaf: something like ~/.forward or /etc/aliases |
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| 10:25.31 | RainbowW | anoHito, if you try writing to that drive without fixing it, i PROMISE you will DESTROY any value left on it |
| 10:26.15 | anoHito | RainbowW, :( |
| 10:26.50 | UtopiahGHML | so, suggestions on where to put downloaded packages so that the win32-loader will get them without having to download them again? |
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| 10:26.59 | RainbowW | if you don't think you have the skills to use the tools we've pointed out to you to try and rescue the data on the drive, and losing the data is a problem, get a professional to help you. |
| 10:27.13 | tdn | valdyn, I just tried following the steps in your link. But when I try to create a luks partition with 128bit aes, I get this error: Failed to write to key storage. In dmesg I get these errors: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1309.html |
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| 10:30.43 | Entmoot | tdn: ser ik godt ud! |
| 10:30.47 | Entmoot | :) |
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| 10:31.02 | tdn | What does "bio too big device loop1 (1 > 0)" in dmesg mean? |
| 10:32.05 | Entmoot | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bio-too-big-device-loop-150275/ |
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| 10:33.14 | tdn | Entmoot, I don't think this is related to my problem. I am trying to set up luks with cryptsetup. |
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| 10:37.52 | anoHito | RainbowW, it is a sata hdd. |
| 10:38.13 | anoHito | i promise it was okay before the transportation. |
| 10:38.23 | anoHito | sorry for complaining. |
| 10:38.44 | RainbowW | anoHito, i'm going to stop telling you what to do now, because i'm at the limit of what i can tell you. you have our recommendation. take it or blow up your data yourself, whichever. |
| 10:39.00 | anoHito | RainbowW, roger that. |
| 10:39.14 | anoHito | RainbowW, and Thanks for advices really. |
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| 10:42.58 | tdn | valdyn, do you use luks? |
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| 10:47.52 | davood | hi all |
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| 10:49.04 | Gun_Smoke | ifconfig -a |
| 10:49.22 | davood | working to install lenny on an supermicro X7DVL-E with fake raid, |
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| 10:51.34 | davood | is there any installer kernel module or something |
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| 10:51.45 | tdn | davood, fake raid? |
| 10:51.58 | davood | hardware with kernel module... |
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| 10:54.14 | davood | adaptec released drivers for that, but it's a chipset on mobo too |
| 10:54.15 | p0g0_ | susj: iwlist should show the wireless devices. The phy0 is likely the base radio, not the wireless interface. |
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| 10:57.11 | anoHito | how can i tar zcf a folder except one sub folder in it ? |
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| 10:57.48 | davood | tdn: answer is up there? |
| 10:58.08 | bazik|ho1e | anoHito: --exclude |
| 10:58.37 | tapioco | hi |
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| 11:00.31 | trentster | hey all, I am in a serious spot of trouble on this one. I have a storage server that uses a vendors usb dongle that ran lvm linux software raid., the dongle is borked, and the vendor says it no longer suports the product. I have booted of parted magic live cd, I can see all the drives, and I can see lvm conf files on the usb dongle, is it possible to get the software raid into a usable state so that I can get the data off? t |
| 11:00.31 | trentster | he usb dongle is running debian from what I can tell.....can any1 help? please!!! |
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| 11:01.13 | tapioco | please help, I'm trying to do a vnc connection to a remote server... I got an authenticating... dialog waiting forever... |
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| 11:02.57 | anoHito | bazik|home, Thank you. |
| 11:03.16 | Entmoot | ifup eth0 ftw |
| 11:03.18 | Entmoot | haha |
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| 11:10.39 | creaux | which package manager client is better? apt-get or aptitude? |
| 11:10.53 | petemc | aptitude |
| 11:11.03 | creaux | why? |
| 11:11.14 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:13.10 | davood | nothing about raid and adaptec ? |
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| 11:13.32 | petemc | davood: what about it? |
| 11:13.35 | anewbie | hi there guys i just buy asus vento external disk |
| 11:13.43 | anewbie | but my system can't find it |
| 11:13.49 | anewbie | i see it with dmesg | grep USB |
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| 11:13.54 | anewbie | but i can access it |
| 11:14.06 | petemc | anewbie: does it have a file system? |
| 11:14.29 | Entmoot | anewbie: did you format it? |
| 11:15.00 | anewbie | hmm that is a point |
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| 11:16.06 | blackbeard2000 | hi |
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| 11:17.00 | anewbie | how can i understand the dev number of the disk |
| 11:17.00 | liable | Arr |
| 11:17.12 | petemc | anewbie: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 11:18.28 | anewbie | thx alot petemc |
| 11:18.29 | anewbie | :) |
| 11:18.31 | russo | hi all, for whatever reason i'm getting errors like: |
| 11:18.44 | russo | Err http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages 302 Found |
| 11:19.14 | petemc | Get:3 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages [139kB] |
| 11:19.18 | petemc | wfm |
| 11:23.24 | russo | its only one debian machine too |
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| 11:23.31 | russo | i dunno whats up with it |
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| 11:23.52 | valdyn | trentster: lvm may work on top of your software raid, but its not software raid |
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| 11:24.24 | xor | Hi there. |
| 11:24.44 | xor | I read something on drupal that got me a bit confused. |
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| 11:24.57 | susj | so im still stuck on setting up my xorg.conf. so in debian 5 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not ask you for resolution settings anymore? I tried X -configure, but the generated xorg.conf did not contain any resolution settings...any idea? |
| 11:25.09 | xor | I read, Debian just patches the drupal release for security vulnerabilities, it doesn't actually update it. |
| 11:25.15 | xor | Is that correct? |
| 11:25.33 | xor | How do I check which patches a particular drupal version as on Debian? |
| 11:25.36 | petemc | xor: stable doesnt get new software |
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| 11:25.53 | petemc | xor: the changelog |
| 11:26.03 | etb | how can i see my lastly installed pkgs? |
| 11:26.13 | petemc | etb: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 11:26.21 | russo | etb: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 11:26.23 | russo | doh |
| 11:26.30 | russo | damn you petemc ;) |
| 11:26.34 | trentster | valdyn, any suggestions where I start |
| 11:26.36 | etb | k thanks |
| 11:26.54 | xor | petemc: Where can I see the changelog? |
| 11:26.55 | russo | hmm how can i fix this 302 error |
| 11:27.02 | russo | what does 302 mean duirng udpate |
| 11:27.08 | petemc | xor: /usr/share/doc/package |
| 11:27.21 | skilz | russo: is your cd scratched? |
| 11:27.33 | russo | skilz: this is post install :( |
| 11:27.40 | skilz | ah |
| 11:27.49 | russo | i mean apt-get is telling me this when i update for all the debs |
| 11:27.52 | petemc | russo: are you going through a proxy? |
| 11:27.57 | russo | no |
| 11:28.03 | susj | shouldnt be so hard to setup the correct resolution settings on xorg.conf? |
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| 11:28.10 | xor | Thanks petemc. |
| 11:28.35 | russo | petemc: where are the proxy setting saved? maybe i misconfigured something |
| 11:28.37 | xor | Actually I can't install it right now, my servers are having some network problems, but there seems to be a list of packages on debian.org, I'll check that out first. |
| 11:28.57 | petemc | russo: http_proxy env variable |
| 11:29.06 | russo | ahh nvm i think i see it |
| 11:29.09 | russo | my routes are borked |
| 11:29.23 | susj | I have an ati rage 128 graphics card. Any hints? |
| 11:29.36 | petemc | susj: you need to create a screen section in xorg.conf |
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| 11:30.09 | bullgard4 | anewbie: In Synaptic: File > History > May 2009 > May 21, 2009 > Commit Log for... |
| 11:30.15 | xor | Seems to be 401'ed http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/drupal6/drupal6_6.6-3lenny1/changelog |
| 11:30.19 | xor | Too bad. |
| 11:30.30 | arcsky | i have problem with samba on Lenny and now i want to install old samba from Etch. how can i do that in best way? |
| 11:30.31 | xor | 404'ed =) |
| 11:30.34 | susj | petemc: i have that, how can i see what modes are supported?? |
| 11:30.45 | petemc | susj: xrandr |
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| 11:32.55 | susj | petemc: i get an "cant open display" error |
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| 11:35.21 | petemc | susj: is X running? |
| 11:35.23 | Mark21 | hello, is there a program that gives a string back that is not constantly updated (like top) with at least the CPU statistics (in % showing cpu usage) |
| 11:35.29 | Mark21 | ? |
| 11:35.49 | petemc | top has options to control its output |
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| 11:36.03 | susj | petemc: sorry, now it is ;-) but it shows that maximum resoltion is 800x600, that can*t be |
| 11:36.08 | russo | petemc: didn't help :/ |
| 11:36.16 | russo | i mean i have no proxy set |
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| 11:36.33 | CoolCold | didn't get Mark21's question |
| 11:36.35 | russo | petemc: could it be that i need to re add the key for the debain servers |
| 11:36.49 | petemc | russo: that didnt seem like a key error |
| 11:37.09 | russo | petemc: when i try to install something though it tell me that this source hasn't been validated |
| 11:37.14 | russo | or something to that tone |
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| 11:37.32 | petemc | you mentioned a 302 error? |
| 11:37.33 | russo | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 11:37.35 | russo | yeah |
| 11:37.41 | russo | but when i got to install it says that |
| 11:37.48 | russo | thats how i noticed the error in the first place |
| 11:38.00 | susj | petemc: how can i start x so its in the background? |
| 11:38.14 | petemc | do what? |
| 11:39.01 | petemc | you can switch to another vt when X is running, if thats what you mean , ctl alt f1 |
| 11:39.50 | susj | petemc: yes, but when i go back it's "gone" |
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| 11:40.06 | petemc | when you ctl alt f7 ? |
| 11:40.10 | susj | petemc: what does vt stand for? |
| 11:40.15 | petemc | virtual terminal |
| 11:40.38 | RHSanborn | Is there a command to determine the full file path for something that you can execute without providing a full path? |
| 11:40.44 | russo | petemc: i figured it out now, its my cable provider, they do mac address filtering and i'm running a xen server with a router XM and my dom0 (the machine that is having the problems) is trying to connect, but not over the router |
| 11:40.55 | trentster | Hi all, please can someone assist me moving software raid hardrives to a computer with another motherboard...I am really lost here, and way out of my depth.....Throw me a frickin bone please! |
| 11:41.24 | susj | petemc: ah cool. didnt know this basic stuff :-) |
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| 11:41.56 | susj | petemc: so my maximum resolution is limited to 800x600 but that cant be, what to do? |
| 11:42.03 | petemc | RHSanborn: dirname? |
| 11:42.19 | petemc | russo: ah |
| 11:42.29 | petemc | susj: i guess you need a better driver |
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| 11:43.20 | RHSanborn | petemc, doesn't look like it |
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| 11:44.32 | RHSanborn | I have an executable that I can get to on one terminal, but I have no idea where it is :P |
| 11:44.35 | susj | petemc: mmm.. where do i get that? its a power mac g4 |
| 11:44.37 | russo | gah!!!!!! petemc it was network-manager screwing with my networking :P |
| 11:44.38 | antaynna | why debian is suk |
| 11:45.16 | sacviper | susj: try running dpkg-reconfigure |
| 11:45.16 | petemc | RHSanborn: which foo |
| 11:45.22 | Mark21 | petemc: do you know if it is possible with top to limit the number off lines it gives back? |
| 11:45.29 | susj | sacviper: i did that |
| 11:45.33 | petemc | Mark21: not off the top of my head |
| 11:45.40 | RHSanborn | petemc, Thats it! Thanks Pete |
| 11:45.51 | petemc | np |
| 11:46.01 | Mark21 | petemc: thank you |
| 11:46.09 | sacviper | susj: and whats the result |
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| 11:48.16 | sacviper | susj: did you try with this command - - sudo dpkg-reconfigure-phigh xserver-xorg |
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| 11:48.42 | sacviper | susj: i think probably this will solve your problem |
| 11:50.35 | sacviper | susj: i to use mac |
| 11:51.24 | susj | sacviper: do i have to set pci address manually, it recommends to use lspci to get the correct address if the refilled doesnt work. is that in the format xx:xx:xx where x are the digets lscpi displays? |
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| 11:52.22 | sacviper | susj: yes you have too |
| 11:52.44 | sacviper | susj: but generally its been detected automatically |
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| 11:53.36 | susj | sacviper: well, neither -phigh also doesnt work |
| 11:53.42 | oznt | hi everyone I'm trying to find the right JAVA_HOME in debian squeeze anyone has idea ? |
| 11:54.01 | susj | and changing pci address manually seems to fail as well |
| 11:54.21 | \amethyst | for ((i=1; i <= 65536; i <<= 1)); do foo 100 1 $i 100; done |
| 11:54.23 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 11:54.49 | datacrusher | hi there, iv inserted my ntfs pen drive here on debian etch, i can see its content, but i cant write in it |
| 11:54.59 | datacrusher | even with sudo. how do i mount the pendrive to be writable? |
| 11:55.00 | justin | oznt: try /usr first |
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| 11:55.38 | oznt | justin, where in /usr ? |
| 11:55.45 | sacviper | susj: which which enviorment are you using - kde,gnome,xfce |
| 11:56.43 | torgrim | is it just me or is the thawte rootcert expired in cacerts package on etch? |
| 11:56.53 | blackbeard2000 | is "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main" some sort of official? or is there any better rep to get libdvdcss2? |
| 11:56.54 | oznt | justin, i tried this JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java |
| 11:56.57 | nkuttler | datacrusher: see if it's mounted rw, mount |
| 11:57.07 | oznt | oznt, no go under octave |
| 11:57.33 | Entmoot | datacrusher: mount device id in fstab with "defaults" |
| 11:57.42 | russo | hmm this is really wierd i have my routes configured correctly but my system seems to be ignoring them |
| 11:57.43 | Entmoot | datacrusher: should be able to write then |
| 11:57.53 | nkuttler | oh_noes: and grep -i ntfs /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 11:57.57 | russo | i have 2 interfaces configured and route is attempting to use the wrong one |
| 11:57.58 | nkuttler | datacrusher: ^^ |
| 11:58.04 | datacrusher | if its already mounted, can i change its properties, or i should mount again |
| 11:58.18 | justin | oznt: no, just try /usr |
| 11:58.18 | nkuttler | datacrusher: mount -o remount,rw |
| 11:58.30 | cahoot | datacrusher: try /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
| 11:58.47 | justin | a lot of java things just try $JAVA_HOME/bin/java |
| 11:58.49 | Entmoot | datacrusher: if you have ntfs-3g installed |
| 11:58.53 | justin | so [utting /usr works just fine |
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| 11:59.14 | Dubphil | Hello, I have apache2 already installed on my Lenny, I want to install squirrelmail but it has a dependency with apache2-mpm-prefork. Does apache2-mpm-prefork is another version of apache2 or it is just an extension to apache2 ? |
| 11:59.15 | oznt | oznt, no go under octave |
| 11:59.26 | oznt | justin, still no go under octave |
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| 12:01.12 | \amethyst | Dubphil: it's the version of apache that runs each request in a separate process rather than being multithreaded |
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| 12:01.45 | oznt | justin, I am trying to compile a software called jhandles which requires java |
| 12:01.47 | \amethyst | Dubphil: PHP in Debian requires that version, because many PHP libraries are not written to handle running in a multithreaded server |
| 12:03.10 | \amethyst | Dubphil: if you have a apache2 and don't have mpm-prefork then you have either mpm-event or mpm-worker |
| 12:03.19 | russo | omg.... so the problem was that network-manager configured my network at somepoint and poisoned my resolv.conf with the dns servers from my isp that resolv any name to their configuration website... |
| 12:03.22 | russo | god |
| 12:03.37 | Dubphil | \amethyst: so what should I do ? uninstall apache2 and install apache2-mpm-prefork ? |
| 12:03.38 | russo | so apt-get was resolving |
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| 12:03.56 | russo | but it wasn't anything real that it was resolving to |
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| 12:04.08 | russo | can i set my nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 12:04.23 | \amethyst | Dubphil: install apache2-mpm-prefork; that should uninstall the other mpm |
| 12:05.00 | \amethyst | Dubphil: you don't have to uninstall apache2; that's just an empty package that depends on any of the -mpm-s |
| 12:05.02 | themill | oznt: nothing in debian should require JAVA_HOME. You could try running update-java-alternatives to make sure you have a consistent set of java alternatives selected. |
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| 12:05.30 | blackbeard2001 | when i dont really trust a repository and want only one pakage. should i install their keyring? |
| 12:05.47 | blackbeard2001 | or hos is the debian way? |
| 12:05.48 | \amethyst | blackbeard2001: no, because that makes you trust them |
| 12:05.48 | themill | oznt: if you really need JAVA_HOME, then try something like /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk (changing that path to whatever jre/jdk you have installed) |
| 12:05.49 | blackbeard2001 | how |
| 12:06.22 | blackbeard2001 | \amethyst: and how could dpkg be sure the package is from them? |
| 12:07.00 | blackbeard2001 | i mean the keyring is to be sure the pakage is signed, right? |
| 12:07.06 | Dubphil | \amethyst: ok thanks a lot ! |
| 12:07.17 | oznt | themill, I tried that, I still get the same annoying error |
| 12:07.27 | blackbeard2001 | how can i use this signed-check-feature without trusting them fully? |
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| 12:07.36 | bragon | Hello |
| 12:07.46 | bragon | sorry to disturb the tranquility here :) |
| 12:07.49 | themill | blackbeard2001: it makes sure the release file is signed and then there is a chain of hashes from there to the .deb /msg dpkg secure apt |
| 12:08.12 | bragon | i search a specifique deb package. for lenny. i search a grub-0.97.deb with the GPT patch ! |
| 12:08.16 | themill | oznt: which is...? (use a pastebin) |
| 12:08.45 | bragon | impossible to find a good grub-0.97 for lenny with the GPT patch apply ..... ! |
| 12:08.52 | blackbeard2001 | themill: thanks... i wil "takl" to dpkg then ;) |
| 12:08.59 | bragon | i have disk larger than 2To |
| 12:09.24 | oznt | themill, I am trying to use java from inside octave, i just get error: `java_new' undefined near line 2 column 1 |
| 12:10.01 | oznt | themill, that's despite java octave is install and I can use auto complete to see the java functions |
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| 12:10.18 | themill | oznt: what are you doing to actually provoke that error though? |
| 12:10.40 | oznt | themill, l = java_new ('java.util.LinkedList') |
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| 12:11.19 | Entmoot | storage system on debian with http interface? |
| 12:11.22 | bragon | Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub |
| 12:11.22 | bragon | The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
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| 12:11.37 | T-KILLER | I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" someone help fix this please ? |
| 12:11.44 | blackbeard2001 | http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt says: If you say Y here you have no way to know if the file you're getting is the package you're supposed to install, or if it's something else entirely that a black hat has arranged for you, containing a nasty suprise. |
| 12:11.53 | blackbeard2001 | and thats what i dont want |
| 12:12.10 | blackbeard2001 | but to be sure i have to install the keyring, right? |
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| 12:13.35 | petemc | blackbeard2001: if you're going to install the package, you need to trust whoever packaged it anyway - you're essentially giving them root access to your system |
| 12:13.53 | blackbeard2001 | thats an argument |
| 12:14.34 | blackbeard2001 | but i want to be informed if some other package is tried to be downloaded from that rep... i just want this one package |
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| 12:15.22 | blackbeard2001 | um... i could download it by hand and use dpkg -i... but is this the debian way? |
| 12:15.22 | themill | blackbeard2001: you can arrange that with pinning if you really want. |
| 12:15.43 | nkuttler | blackbeard2001: i'd say the debian way is not to use untrusted sources.. |
| 12:15.56 | blackbeard2001 | lol. yea... but i need it ^^ |
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| 12:15.59 | nkuttler | blackbeard2001: or package it yourself |
| 12:16.08 | blackbeard2001 | too lazy ^^ |
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| 12:17.06 | blackbeard2001 | ok. how could i do this with pinning for only the package libdvdcss2 from deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main |
| 12:17.39 | blackbeard2001 | i have to set some priorities as i remember |
| 12:17.52 | petemc | blackbeard2001: debian multimedia is ran by a debian maintainer, its fairly trustable |
| 12:17.52 | themill | blackbeard2001: "/msg dpkg pinning" and look at the output of apt-cache policy |
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| 12:18.31 | blackbeard2001 | themill right after i posted the question i thought it myself and asked dpkg allready |
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| 12:24.10 | tapioco | please help, I'm trying to do a vnc connection to a remote server... I got an authenticating... dialog waiting forever... |
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| 12:25.17 | blackbeard2001 | as i understand http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning it allows one to set priorities to releases. like lenny or sid, right? |
| 12:25.40 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.46 | blackbeard2001 | but what if different reps are both for lenny? |
| 12:26.11 | blackbeard2001 | but i want more priority to the official reps |
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| 12:26.41 | petemc | blackbeard2001: why dont you add the repo, install the software you need, then remove it from sources.list |
| 12:27.11 | blackbeard2001 | petemc: i thought about that, too... but i would like to be informed about updates |
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| 12:28.00 | petemc | blackbeard2001: well, lots of people use debian multimedia without problems, i think all your fannying about is a bit of a waste of time |
| 12:28.51 | Hebrew_Hammer | i'm using a tutorial for debian etch, and i'm using debian 5.0 ... it says to edit /etc/init.d/sysklogd but that file isn't there, is it somewhere else? |
| 12:29.03 | blackbeard2001 | yea. i think that ott. but its not only about debian-multimedia. i would like to know it for future |
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| 12:29.16 | petemc | Hebrew_Hammer: i have that file on a lenny box |
| 12:29.39 | Hebrew_Hammer | hmmm |
| 12:29.42 | petemc | hmm, it may be from a previous relase tho... |
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| 12:30.23 | themill | blackbeard2001: You'd pin on the Origin: line out of the Release file. |
| 12:30.43 | T-KILLER | anyone know of an alternative to ffmpeg-php so that i can get a video sharing site up and running? apparently ffmpeg-php is no longer under active development but is a requirement for things like PHPMotion and Viviscript |
| 12:30.49 | Hebrew_Hammer | petemc: is there a way to find out if the file could be somewhere else? |
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| 12:31.09 | blackbeard2001 | petemc: but besides that... if i install the debian-multimedia-keys and so trust them... how can i get sure that the priority is higher to the original reps than to debian-multimedia when there is a package on both sides? |
| 12:31.31 | petemc | blackbeard2001: i know very little about pinning, i dont use it |
| 12:32.07 | petemc | Hebrew_Hammer: rsyslog , perhaps |
| 12:32.18 | Hebrew_Hammer | lol maybe if i stop being a goon and install sysklogd lol |
| 12:32.41 | blackbeard2001 | themill: i didnt saw anything about pinning origin (this is where the file will get downloaded if at more then one side?) I think this is exacly what i want |
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| 12:33.45 | blackbeard2001 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:35.17 | blackbeard2001 | dpkg doesnt know all :( |
| 12:35.17 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, blackbeard2001 |
| 12:35.22 | themill | blackbeard2001: pinning is fire.. it's fiddly to get right and easy to get it wrong. Follow the links in "/msg dpkg pinning" and read "man 5 apt_preferences" carefully and experiment. You can see the results of your pinning in "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy packagename" |
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| 12:43.59 | blackbeard2001 | puuuh.. this gets complicated |
| 12:44.20 | blackbeard2001 | http://linux.die.net/man/5/apt_preferences says: The APT preferences file does not affect the choice of instance, only the choice of version. |
| 12:44.31 | blackbeard2001 | and "origin" doesnt help me here, i think |
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| 12:45.15 | catfish | hi guys |
| 12:45.38 | catfish | what is wrong with this fstab line |
| 12:45.41 | catfish | 192.168.1.100:/raid0/data/lhc /media/lhc nfs user,rw,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,umask=0000 0 1 |
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| 12:46.09 | catfish | i added the umask, but cannot mount it seems them |
| 12:46.11 | themill | blackbeard2001: if you pin dmm at -1 then no versions are acceptable for any package that you don't explicitly pin at some value > 1. (or >500, I would pick) |
| 12:46.17 | CoolCold | should it be '1' as last param? |
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| 12:48.02 | blackbeard2001 | i let it for now. and comment the new rep out after install... but for the future i would something like this: check if a package from a rep is updated or only in the new rep... if yes... check first if the package is in the original rep... if not warn me that this package is downloaded from not official-rep.. but use the keyfile to check the signature |
| 12:48.07 | sylar | which package is "svn" in? |
| 12:48.44 | cahoot | tried subversion? |
| 12:48.47 | janmejay | sylar: subversion i think |
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| 12:49.12 | blackbeard2001 | or i make my own rep for such things ^^ |
| 12:49.12 | sylar | found zilion matchs, so first I asked |
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| 12:54.27 | cahoot | sylar: 5 matches here |
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| 12:55.01 | blame | how do I add text on a certain line in a text file? |
| 12:55.11 | petemc | a text editor |
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| 12:55.27 | blackbeard2001 | man keyboard |
| 12:55.31 | blackbeard2001 | ;) |
| 12:55.53 | blame | without text editor |
| 12:55.58 | petemc | sed |
| 12:56.08 | blame | if say I wanted to add a line in a script? |
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| 12:56.49 | petemc | im sure sed can do it, but i wouldnt know how to make it do it otomh |
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| 12:57.43 | creaux | blame: with bash you can read the file line by line and add things and output the file line by line |
| 12:58.06 | blackbeard2001 | blame if its just the last line: echo "xyz" >> script |
| 12:58.14 | Hebrew_Hammer | how do i clear out my dns cache? |
| 12:58.30 | petemc | Hebrew_Hammer: do you have a dns cache? |
| 12:59.04 | creaux | while read line; do echo $line" adding my stuff"; done < input_file > output_file |
| 13:00.04 | Hebrew_Hammer | petemc: i guess thats more the overall question |
| 13:00.14 | petemc | you dont, unless you installed one |
| 13:00.42 | blame | blackbeard2001: can I specify on which line I would like "xyz" to be added? |
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| 13:01.00 | blackbeard2001 | not this way... or i dont know it |
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| 13:01.46 | blackbeard2001 | you could split the script in that line... add a line with echo and add the rest of the spitted... but there have to be an better way |
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| 13:02.49 | creaux | blame: with my example, you could count the lines and/or use "if" statement and only add when the condition is true |
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| 13:03.34 | creaux | blame: i.e. add more code to the script |
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| 13:03.54 | creaux | blame: but then you have to learn some bash |
| 13:04.02 | blame | I think I used to do it with sed -l something.... |
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| 13:04.50 | ruadh | Hi all |
| 13:04.58 | creaux | blame: or ask #sed |
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| 13:05.21 | petemc | http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/unix/sedawk/ch05_05.htm |
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| 13:06.44 | ruadh | I have just d/l firefox but am unable to find it. I am using Debian 5. Can anyone help? |
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| 13:07.49 | obcecado | ruadh: any reason not to use apt to get iceweasel running ? |
| 13:07.49 | codeshepherd | how do i find the total number io operations on my disk ? .. iostat reports the current usage.. i am told the total numbers are stored somewhere in /proc or /sys -- i need this to estimate ebs storage costs |
| 13:08.16 | ruadh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.23 | creaux | ruadh: cd; find -iname 'firefox*' |
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| 13:09.59 | creaux | ruadh: or even: cd; find -iname '*firefox*' |
| 13:10.27 | catfish | is somone familar with mounting a nfs share with umask through fstab? |
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| 13:11.39 | tote | if you are running testing (squeeze), is it a good idea to get security updates from both testing and stable (lenny)? |
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| 13:12.43 | cahoot | testing gor security updates now? |
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| 13:14.33 | tote | cahoot: the faq says that there is security for testing, but that it might not always be up to date |
| 13:14.54 | dimedo | can someone recommend an irc bouncer for debian? i would like TLS/SSL support for bouncer/server and client/bouncer connections |
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| 13:15.31 | babilen | tote: i was under the impression that security updates for testing were suspended after lenny came out... |
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| 13:15.51 | themill | !testing security |
| 13:15.51 | dpkg | NOTE: there will be no testing security support for some time. Put "deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Squeeze. Keep up to date by reading <d-d-a>. Also ask about <d-s-a><apt-listchanges>. |
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| 13:17.06 | tote | aha, didnt know that :) |
| 13:18.45 | tote | is it a bad idea to have squeeze/updates and lenny/updates from security.debian.org? |
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| 13:20.41 | themill | At best, that would give you a false sense of security, at worst, installing lenny/updates into squeeze will just make a mess. |
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| 13:25.45 | Entmoot | I only have 4 sources in my sources.list |
| 13:25.53 | Entmoot | is that wrong ? |
| 13:26.04 | petemc | Entmoot: no |
| 13:26.04 | Entmoot | now youre talking about it |
| 13:26.13 | Entmoot | petemc: good :-) |
| 13:26.28 | petemc | tho it could be, depending on what the sources actually are |
| 13:26.35 | cadu | stew: thanks for lifting my ban! sorry for the inconvenience |
| 13:26.41 | CQ | anyone good with samba? windows can't access my samba drive, it sees it, I can map it, but then it refuses the username / passwd wvwn though I have a password map and a password set, the logs show smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(740) create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED |
| 13:26.58 | CQ | s/wvwn/even/ |
| 13:28.14 | petemc | CQ: did you run smbpasswd? |
| 13:28.20 | justin | CQ: did you touch the samba config? |
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| 13:28.35 | CQ | yes to both questions. |
| 13:29.05 | tdn | I have a geode chipset with a hardware random number generator. There is a module for it: geode_rng and it is loaded. How do I use it to generate random data? |
| 13:29.13 | Entmoot | petemc: http://pastebin.com/m43645e08 |
| 13:29.30 | petemc | looks fine |
| 13:29.46 | justin | tdn: read from /dev/random, probably |
| 13:29.49 | CQ | justin: i have /mnt/data exported. smbclient -L asks for the passwd and seems to work fine. just windows won't authenticate for some reason |
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| 13:30.08 | justin | CQ: what did you change in your samba config? |
| 13:30.20 | tdn | justin, ok. It is just not very fast. I would expect it to be faster than the "normal" /dev/random. |
| 13:30.53 | Entmoot | justin: thnx for helping with samba yesterday.. now my popcornhour rocks on the samba shares :-) |
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| 13:31.09 | wide_awake | I'm trying to ssh from one debian server to another, and getting this error: "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer" |
| 13:31.51 | CQ | justin: the workgroup, wins support, security=user and the username map, and then the info for the drive to share... want me to pastebin it? |
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| 13:32.23 | wide_awake | ssh-ing in the other direction just hangs. |
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| 13:32.37 | justin | CQ: always a good idea |
| 13:32.39 | wide_awake | anyone have any ideas where I can look or what might be the cause? |
| 13:32.50 | deadeyes | hi all |
| 13:32.59 | justin | wide_awake: ssh -vvvv |
| 13:33.02 | deadeyes | is there any known problem with the fglrx drivers? |
| 13:33.07 | wide_awake | justin: did that |
| 13:33.07 | jogla | Did I understand it correctly, that everything thats in testing was 10 days in sid, and everything that in sid was 10 days without complains in ubuntu? |
| 13:33.12 | deadeyes | I get "cannot allocate memory" |
| 13:33.44 | wide_awake | justin: it's able to establish a connection |
| 13:33.51 | deadeyes | when I try to insert the module |
| 13:34.09 | petemc | wide_awake: if you're not concerned about security, deleting the hosts entry from ~/.ssh/known_hosts may fix |
| 13:34.20 | justin | CQ: does your user have FS permissions on /mnt/data ? |
| 13:34.25 | themill | wide_awake: can you run sshd in debug mode? That's the easiest away to work out what's happening. |
| 13:34.25 | wide_awake | petemc: they're both my servers :) |
| 13:34.42 | justin | jogla: not even close |
| 13:34.44 | tote | lets say i run lenny, and need to keep php5 up to date (with whats released on php.net), whats the most debian-way to do that? |
| 13:34.45 | themill | wide_awake: also check your hosts.deny on the server |
| 13:34.49 | wide_awake | themill: not really - both machines are in production use |
| 13:34.57 | wide_awake | there's nothing in hosts.deny on either machine |
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| 13:35.05 | themill | wide_awake: run it in debug mode on a different port |
| 13:35.16 | petemc | !debug sshd |
| 13:35.16 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. |
| 13:35.32 | wide_awake | tries |
| 13:36.39 | CQ | justin: didn't before, does now... I thought I had changed that already... no change fromteh windows behavior though. It's somethign to do with the authentication, just don't know what... |
| 13:36.49 | jogla | justin: correct answer would be "rolf, you're so funny" |
| 13:36.53 | wide_awake | connection refused... possibly iptables is denying me. |
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| 13:38.03 | wide_awake | n/m |
| 13:38.23 | wide_awake | Ok, here's what I get: "Did not receive identification string from UNKNOWN" |
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| 13:39.07 | CQ | justin: even with a higher loglevel no more info than what I posted. |
| 13:39.38 | wide_awake | that's on the server end |
| 13:39.47 | Zvpun | When Network-Manager stoped working I had to change nm-system-settings.con and set managed=true. Has someone else experienced problems too? Why does the upgrade disable network-manager? |
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| 13:40.07 | jogla | Zvpun: In Lenny? |
| 13:40.15 | Zvpun | jogla: testing |
| 13:40.25 | justin | CQ: the default samba config works just fine. maybe your user map thing isnt setup right |
| 13:40.34 | jogla | I can live with that :) |
| 13:40.50 | CQ | justin: OK, I'll kill that then... I have no problems with samba asking for the unix logon |
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| 13:42.05 | wide_awake | themill: sshd gave that error and exited with a status of 255 |
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| 13:42.47 | themill | wide_awake: that's a weird one. That's when you tried connecting with an ssh client? (not with telnet or netcat or something) |
| 13:43.04 | wide_awake | ssh -vvvv servername |
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| 13:43.39 | wide_awake | note that I can connect from the source to other machines, and from other machines to the dest. |
| 13:43.43 | wide_awake | just not from source to dest |
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| 13:47.20 | themill | wide_awake: does "getent hosts clientname" work on server? |
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| 13:48.22 | wide_awake | themill: replacing clientname with the ssh source machine? or straight up like that? |
| 13:48.35 | themill | wide_awake: replacing clientname |
| 13:48.41 | wide_awake | yes |
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| 13:48.43 | wide_awake | works |
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| 13:49.43 | wide_awake | I suspect a firewall/network problem somewhere in the tubes... |
| 13:49.50 | themill | wide_awake: UNKNOWN tends to indicate a failure in name resolution. The "Did not receive identification string from" bit usually means it wasn't an ssh client that connected. That's what makes it weird. |
| 13:50.24 | themill | wide_awake: sounds likely... |
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| 13:50.44 | themill | wide_awake: lack of identification string can be from nmap scanning etc too. |
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| 13:50.58 | wide_awake | themill: nmap scanning? |
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| 13:51.39 | themill | wide_awake: if server was being portscanned by something, then the scanner connects notes that ssh is running on the port then just moves on. Ssh logs that in that way |
| 13:51.49 | wide_awake | right |
| 13:52.08 | ddfger | how do i install all deb files within a folder with one command? dpkg -i ?? |
| 13:52.17 | wide_awake | but this came directly from the debug sshd on port 2222 |
| 13:52.49 | themill | wide_awake: yeah that's the odd thing. It'd be unlucky to be portscanned on 2222 at the same time as you were testing this out |
| 13:53.10 | wide_awake | plus, I'd get connection refused on the client if the server had already closed down... right? |
| 13:53.39 | themill | wide_awake: yep |
| 13:53.41 | psycodad | ddfger: for file in $(ls that-specific-dir/); do echo installing $file:; dpkg -i; done |
| 13:53.53 | wide_awake | bleh |
| 13:54.01 | wide_awake | and I was hoping to get actual work done today ;) |
| 13:54.02 | psycodad | ddfger: just one example i might think of. there sure are better ways. |
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| 13:55.21 | themill | or just "dpkg -i *.deb" |
| 13:55.31 | mahfiaz | anybody familiar with DICT? |
| 13:55.36 | wide_awake | themill: just checked and http requests are behaving the same way... |
| 13:55.46 | wide_awake | all signs point to network trouble. |
| 13:55.59 | themill | wide_awake: ahh... you've got fun for the rest of the day then. |
| 13:56.14 | wide_awake | or maybe I'll move on to something else and pretend like I didn't notice ;) |
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| 13:56.31 | themill | psycodad: parsing the output of ls is a mug's game. If you really wanted that, you'd do "for file in * ; do ..." |
| 13:56.49 | wide_awake | "find" is your friend. |
| 13:56.56 | wide_awake | particularly with -exec |
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| 13:57.09 | psycodad | themill: true, wide_awake: uebertrue. |
| 13:57.35 | themill | psycodad: at least you can be sure .deb filenames don't have spaces in them :) |
| 13:57.49 | wide_awake | themill: do you know of a way to find out where along the way connections are getting screwed up? |
| 13:59.05 | psycodad | themill: yep, and i also haven't met one with international chars in the naeme, a fact that i also highly appreciate ;) |
| 13:59.30 | themill | wide_awake: I'd start by checking iptables rules. tcptraceroute might help too if you think it's fun with something in the way. |
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| 13:59.58 | wide_awake | themill: I have explicit rules allowing conections on port 80 |
| 14:00.11 | wide_awake | I'll check tcptraceroute |
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| 14:02.31 | wide_awake | traceroute works OK |
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| 14:04.04 | Ariel_Calzada | hi i need to activate my postgresql in debian squeeze |
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| 14:04.27 | xor | Hi there. |
| 14:04.38 | wide_awake | Ariel_Calzada: /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start |
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| 14:06.07 | Ariel_Calzada | wide_awake: but it need an activation for the first time |
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| 14:06.19 | wide_awake | activation? |
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| 14:08.02 | wide_awake | Ariel_Calzada: what do you mean? |
| 14:09.17 | Ariel_Calzada | wide_awake: psotgresql is not runnig really |
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| 14:09.35 | simonrvn | what? |
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| 14:09.55 | Ariel_Calzada | wide_awake: pg_createcluster 8.3 main --start |
| 14:10.08 | Ariel_Calzada | wide_awake: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/ed3796f897d9b478?pli=1 |
| 14:10.45 | wide_awake | Ariel_Calzada: have you tried to connect? |
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| 14:10.50 | wide_awake | maybe it is running. |
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| 14:11.20 | Ariel_Calzada | wide_awake: yeah i tried but the first time i needed to do pg_createcluster 8.3 main --start |
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| 14:11.33 | wide_awake | ok, then what happened? |
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| 14:12.09 | xor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.11 | xor | Which is where I'd like it to showup. |
| 14:12.20 | xor | I tried changing the Alias settings on the /etc/drupal/6/apache.conf file and I get some errors when restarting the apache service. |
| 14:12.29 | xor | Restarting web server: apache2[Thu May 21 13:59:12 2009] [warn] The Alias directive in /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf at line 1 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias. |
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| 14:13.19 | xor | This is a clean install btw. |
| 14:13.22 | simonrvn | that's a warning, not an error. |
| 14:13.43 | xor | You're right, still is it a problem? |
| 14:14.36 | simonrvn | it can be, or not. TIAS |
| 14:14.51 | simonrvn | nonetheless, i'd fix it |
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| 14:15.28 | xor | I'm trying to. =) |
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| 14:16.45 | p4tr0p1 | anybody knows how to use MagicRescue ? |
| 14:17.19 | silverash | Question, I'm ssh in a machine to do a svn update but for some reason cant access anything from that box, yet I did a apt-get install nmap and it work, can anyone explain this to me |
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| 14:19.38 | wide_awake | silverash: what do you mean by "can't access anything"? |
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| 14:20.23 | silverash | if i ping google or the ssh server and a few others I cant get to them, also tried to ssh back into the svn server |
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| 14:21.08 | justin | silverash: it is setup to use an http proxy? |
| 14:21.10 | petemc | silverash: look in /etc/apt/sources.list to see which server it gets packages from |
| 14:21.20 | justin | silverash: .. or a local mirror |
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| 14:22.51 | silverash | no proxy, volatile.debian.org and debian.ludost.net are in use |
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| 14:23.17 | simonrvn | need security.d.o too |
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| 14:24.31 | silverash | yes got that |
| 14:25.32 | silverash | it was working and then it stopped the network admin who hosts the machine says nothing has changed on the network, I think he has done something so just need to double check its not the box first |
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| 14:27.25 | lareth | Hello how can I add my regular user to sudoers? |
| 14:27.38 | simonrvn | !sudoers |
| 14:27.39 | dpkg | sudoers is probably You can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for sudo by adding a line like this to /etc/sudoers: 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' (no quotes, replacing user with your username). see also <visudo> For more security, please study the man pages from 'apropos sudo' |
| 14:29.01 | sid | debian lenny rocks |
| 14:29.26 | sid | (just an enthusiast user) |
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| 14:29.37 | wide_awake | maybe you should change your nick to lenny :) |
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| 14:31.23 | bazik|home | !blame weather |
| 14:31.24 | dpkg | blames silverash and weather for the end of culture as we know it |
| 14:32.36 | silverash | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.21 | wide_awake | or Edmonton |
| 14:33.27 | wide_awake | they got snow a couple days ago :-/ |
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| 14:38.32 | xor | I just installed drupal on debian, and it isn't showing up on the root of my webserver. |
| 14:38.54 | xor | Does anyone know hos to do it? |
| 14:38.55 | justin | xor: /usr/share/doc/drupal*/README.Debian? |
| 14:40.27 | simonrvn | make a vhost for it |
| 14:42.06 | Inazad | someone here has already programmed in NSIS ? |
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| 14:42.17 | xor | justin: I can't find the solution for my problem on that README. |
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| 14:42.44 | Pnux | hey, is there anything wrong with the kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 package in squeeze's repos? |
| 14:42.55 | xor | simonrvn: Is there a straightforward way of doing it without changing several lines of text? |
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| 14:43.51 | Pnux | or kdebase-bin-kde3 |
| 14:44.19 | stew | Pnux: checked the bts? |
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| 14:44.40 | Pnux | stew: how do i do that? |
| 14:44.49 | Inazad | someone here has already programmed in NSIS ? |
| 14:44.53 | stew | Pnux: http://bugs.debian.org/packagename |
| 14:45.12 | Pnux | stew: will do so, thanks |
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| 14:52.01 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | hello |
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| 14:54.12 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | any1 alive |
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| 14:54.23 | simonrvn | nope |
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| 14:54.32 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | hey there |
| 14:54.39 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | got any idea how to disable kernel upgrades in apt ? |
| 14:54.45 | simonrvn | hi |
| 14:55.28 | simonrvn | what? |
| 14:55.50 | wide_awake | Jeanne-Kamikaze: you can pin packages to specific versions |
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| 14:56.10 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | there's this bloody icon on the menu saying there's 1 update available (a kernel upgrade) |
| 14:56.27 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | butI don't wanna take it since I'm running a custom one, and I don't want to hide the icon either since I'm interested in other updates |
| 14:56.38 | cahoot | disable update-manager? |
| 14:56.44 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | noes |
| 14:56.58 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | I want the update manager, I just don't want it to fetch kernel upgrades |
| 14:57.01 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | is that possible ? |
| 14:57.01 | cahoot | put kernel on hold? |
| 14:57.06 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | how ? |
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| 14:57.19 | simonrvn | there's a reason why it's being updated, commonly it being a security update or a fix. i don't understand why you'd want to not let it do that. |
| 14:57.38 | nkuttler | or just uninstall it if you don't use it.. |
| 14:57.44 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | I've got a more recent kernel than the one on the repositories |
| 14:57.44 | simonrvn | so remove it then. |
| 14:57.50 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | oh |
| 14:58.15 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | removing it as in blowing the kernel images in /boot, right ? |
| 14:58.26 | nkuttler | Jeanne-Kamikaze: no |
| 14:58.26 | simonrvn | dpkg -P foo |
| 14:58.26 | dpkg | simonrvn: are you using Windows? |
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| 14:58.37 | simonrvn | dpkg: no |
| 14:58.37 | dpkg | No Offense |
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| 15:00.40 | Jeanne-Kamikaze | alright done, thanks |
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| 15:14.22 | cReAtivE_ | hi ! |
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| 15:15.08 | cReAtivE_ | just installed lenny, monitor gets no signal at boot can any1 help me pls ? (radeon x1600 with tv-out, fresh install) |
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| 15:15.55 | cReAtivE_ | and default driver |
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| 15:18.04 | lareth | Hello I have installed debian lenny 32 bit in a winxp machine with vbox 2.2.2 and I get a kernel failure which does not seem to affect the system. This is a pastebin from the dmesg http://pastebin.com/f1e34732 |
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| 15:27.06 | lunk | is there a quick way to batch rename all files in a directory? |
| 15:27.18 | lunk | want to replace one character with another in all filenames |
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| 15:27.46 | nkuttler | lunk: man rename |
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| 15:28.48 | lunk | haha |
| 15:29.13 | lunk | that's so obvious, if it was a snake it would have bit me |
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| 15:37.14 | mattgyver | When using ffmpeg to convert video to audio, i recieve 'unknown encoder: libmp3lame' i have libmp3lame0, and libmp3lame-dev installed. Could anyone help? |
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| 15:38.59 | ruadh | Hi |
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| 15:41.47 | ruadh | I am having trouble getting sound when trying to stream am online radio station. Can anyone help? |
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| 15:43.20 | rgammans | does sound work at all? |
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| 15:43.36 | adb | !tell mattgyver about lame |
| 15:43.38 | adb | mattgyver: apt-cache show libmp3lame0 < LAME n'est pas un encodeur MP3 |
| 15:43.38 | ruadh | rgammans, Yes |
| 15:43.59 | adb | err LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder |
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| 15:45.09 | rgammans | Have you tried different players? |
| 15:45.31 | ruadh | Like what? |
| 15:45.45 | adb | vlc , audacious |
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| 15:46.15 | RickyWh | what is the command to disable and re-enable my network? |
| 15:46.20 | ruadh | I need to use a web browser |
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| 15:46.36 | bazik|home | RickyWh: /etc/init.d/network restart ? or just ifdown the interface |
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| 15:46.48 | yeretik | Hi... I'm studying BIND9 and i've created a zone file http://pastebin.ca/1429982 but when i tried to restart Bind9, the logs returns me a message: "zone myvnet.net/IN: loading from master file /etc/bind/db.myvnet.net failed: not at top of zone"... Any suggestions? Can anybody help me? |
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| 15:48.12 | RickyWh | ok thx |
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| 15:49.18 | bazik|home | ruadh: what kind of stream is it? rm, wma, mp3, ogg, whatever? |
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| 15:53.22 | Gun_Smoke | ping | ignore |
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| 15:54.07 | seniorake | i've got a problem with firefox just recently, with fonts display. i've got ms-ttcorefonts installed, but firefox still shows e.g. sans-serif or whatever instead of e.g. Arial, Verdana, .. the curious thing about this is that it worked before, althow i'm not sure what was changed at all, i did not change any configuration or so. even inside the font-options firefox shows e.g. arial, verdana as available, but they are not being |
| 15:54.07 | seniorake | used. i suspect some gtk issue here, opera shows the fonts as it should, but firefox does not - even the firefoxmenu at the tol (file, edit, view, history, bookmarks, tools, help) are not being displayed correctly any more. they also appar to be changed.... this is a serious problem for me because i need to see all given fonds for web development, i can't continue to work unless this is fixed and i need firefox to work again as |
| 15:54.07 | seniorake | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.24 | seniorake | i even copied all ms-ttcorefonts to ~./fonts, but that didn't help |
| 15:54.29 | seniorake | ~./.fonts i mean |
| 15:55.02 | seniorake | heh, wait. obviosuly this affects whole gtk - even this chat program (xchat) has changed fonts... darn :/ |
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| 15:55.32 | mahfiaz1 | !blame itself |
| 15:55.33 | dpkg | blames sylar and itself for all the evil in the world |
| 15:55.35 | ruadh | Still crap |
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| 15:57.25 | bazik|home | seniorake: can you select any of those corefonts in the preferences manually? like using 'arial' as default serif font? just to check if firefox correctly loaded the font |
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| 15:58.13 | blackbeard2001 | is there any backport of vlc 0.9 to lenny. and where? |
| 15:58.24 | seniorake | yes i can, but it does not work after a restart. as i mentioned, even xchat has this issue. all the fonts here are abviously sans-serif or something, but not the font used before (i think it was arial) |
| 15:58.37 | hjb | blackbeard2001: i assume you already checked backports.org? |
| 15:58.51 | blackbeard2001 | yep. its in my reps |
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| 16:00.13 | ziroday | Hi, is there a list of debian archive mirrors somewhere? |
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| 16:00.47 | hjb | blackbeard2001: videolan.org had no backports, too |
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| 16:01.02 | ruadh | Will I need to download some files to stream and listen to music? |
| 16:01.05 | blackbeard2001 | no. just sid |
| 16:01.17 | ruadh | an if so, what? |
| 16:01.18 | hjb | blackbeard2001: i bet you'll have to compile it by yourself, then ;) |
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| 16:02.07 | blackbeard2001 | i dont want to mix with sid on such a pakage... there are too many dependencys |
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| 16:03.17 | hjb | blackbeard2001: did you try building 0.9 under lenny? |
| 16:03.31 | blackbeard2001 | oh man... vlc 0.8.6h in lenny is mostly useless... just plays audio |
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| 16:03.45 | hjb | blackbeard2001: i have no idea if it will build, you'll have to check dependencies |
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| 16:03.48 | blackbeard2001 | hjb: no... |
| 16:04.21 | hjb | blackbeard2001: btw. i'm quite happy with mplayer from debian-multimedia |
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| 16:04.35 | blackbeard2001 | but i would like vlc now |
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| 16:05.22 | hjb | blackbeard2001: sounds strange... why does it only play audio? |
| 16:05.36 | hjb | blackbeard2001: besides beeing old it should still be functionally complete |
| 16:05.59 | blackbeard2001 | either vlc 0.9x or a codec with which vlc 0.8.6 wont failure in playing fourcc WMVA |
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| 16:07.16 | blackbeard2001 | hjb: do you have vlc 0.8.6h from lenny installed? |
| 16:07.43 | hjb | blackbeard2001: yupp |
| 16:07.54 | blackbeard2001 | would you please try vlc http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx |
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| 16:10.19 | hjb | blackbeard2001: mine doesn't even support the audio codec :| |
| 16:10.32 | blackbeard2001 | lol |
| 16:11.04 | blackbeard2001 | hmmmmmm [18:04] hjb: blackbeard2001: besides beeing old it should still be functionally complete |
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| 16:12.00 | ajavid | We don't simply have Zend_Controller - we have Zend_Controller_Action, Zend_Controller_Router, Zend_Controller_Front, etc. Each specific role or responsibility is covered by it's own class. This certainly results in a profusion of focused classes to such an extent it can become difficult to see how all the pieces work - but honestly you only need the outer abstracted API and can ignore the rest unless you really really want to customise something. |
| 16:12.14 | ajavid | *headdesk* |
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| 16:12.23 | ajavid | switches irssi window... *sigh* |
| 16:12.31 | blackbeard2001 | *g* |
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| 16:13.13 | bazik|home | is happy that he seperateed irssi for irc and irssi for bitlbee to avoid shamefull mistells |
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| 16:13.27 | bazik|home | :) |
| 16:14.03 | blackbeard2001 | oh no....The problem with that is that vlc 0.9 requires a newer ffmpeg in |
| 16:14.03 | blackbeard2001 | lenny |
| 16:14.30 | blackbeard2001 | it wont even compile against lenny |
| 16:14.50 | blackbeard2001 | wtf |
| 16:14.57 | themill | judd versions ffmpeg |
| 16:14.58 | judd | themill: ffmpeg -- etch: 0.cvs20060823-8 etch-security: 0.cvs20060823-8+etch1 lenny: 0.svn20080206-17 lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-17+lenny1 squeeze: 3:0.svn20090303-1 etch-multimedia: 3:20070329-0.0etch1 lenny-multimedia: 3:20080706-0.3lenny1 sid: 4:0.5+svn20090420-2 squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.5+svn20090508-0.1 sid-multimedia: 5:0.5+svn20090521-0.0 |
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| 16:15.03 | Yancho | hi - can someoen please help me locate windos files loaded via Wine from debian please? |
| 16:15.22 | maligor | ~/.wine/drive_c/ |
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| 16:15.43 | maligor | if I understood correctly |
| 16:15.58 | blackbeard2001 | i give up... no video in vlc then for me |
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| 16:17.56 | blackbeard2001 | thats allways the same... when one want to be on stable... its like having windwos98 |
| 16:18.14 | justin | blackbeard2001: vlc 'mms://209.73.191.87/bcpenc252181?StreamID=81684353&pl_auth=f686c227889b6cd466d431483540f044&ht=120&pl_b=00CEBE2CA2A9E2341A6CA972E14A157E9E&CG_ID=1369080&Segment=149773' |
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| 16:18.44 | justin | vlc works fine once you go through 3 levels of playlists |
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| 16:18.57 | justin | oh, that link probably wont work |
| 16:19.12 | justin | run this, then open the 2nd url: wget -O- 'http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1369080&segment=149773' |
| 16:19.55 | justin | blackbeard2001: nasa tv is boring :) |
| 16:20.05 | blackbeard2001 | its just a test :) |
| 16:20.22 | blackbeard2001 | for asx and wmv, which i need |
| 16:20.25 | justin | well, it works fine.. vlc just must not agree with all the playlist redirections |
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| 16:21.39 | blackbeard2001 | oh right... i allready on that playlist |
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| 16:21.49 | blackbeard2001 | i just have to click the second |
| 16:22.01 | smurf_ | Hi guys. Does anyone here know something about ASNumber? |
| 16:22.20 | blackbeard2001 | now theres some video... but no audio :-( |
| 16:22.40 | blackbeard2001 | a second vlc for audio... *sick* |
| 16:22.51 | hjb | blackbeard2001: would you mind joining /videolan? |
| 16:23.04 | hjb | blackbeard2001: i'm discussing your problem with j-b there atm |
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| 16:24.06 | blackbeard2001 | oh no wait... its nasa... there is audio ^^ |
| 16:24.21 | blackbeard2001 | it works.. not as expected... but it works :) |
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| 16:27.19 | Yancho | maligor mine i guess is this : /root/.wine-zw9TLa/drive_c/ - can it be this one ? because there are no documetns (.pdf)s there |
| 16:27.34 | Yancho | i meant (.doc)s not (.pdf)s |
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| 16:28.05 | justin | !tell Yancho about root |
| 16:28.52 | Yancho | justin i have no folder ./wine in my home/ but only one in /root/ :S |
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| 16:29.11 | justin | which would imply that at some point you ran wine as root, which is a pretty dumb thing to do |
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| 16:30.13 | Yancho | agreed - but wasnt me who installed it |
| 16:30.51 | Yancho | anyway basicaly now i am trying to get back the docments so i format and start from scratch |
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| 16:31.06 | maligor | from where? |
| 16:32.01 | Yancho | i tried to locate .doc but nothing ... also in /home/jpulis/ there are no documents [My Documents] should be pointing there no ? |
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| 16:33.50 | maligor | locate uses a database |
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| 16:34.10 | maligor | updatedb updates that |
| 16:34.32 | extor | Is there a developer called "Kano" here by chance? I just wanted to ask him something about Express Gate |
| 16:34.55 | Yancho | thanks maligor . im updating |
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| 16:37.19 | grand_grunt | Hi there. What is the Debian way to configure a eagle USB modem (DSL)? All I see on the Web is outdated. |
| 16:37.21 | grand_grunt | ? |
| 16:37.41 | extor | Has anyone been able to install a standard kernel and initrd on the expressgate embedded flash btw? |
| 16:37.47 | Yancho | maligor still no luck |
| 16:38.32 | maligor | extor, yeah, he's on freenode |
| 16:38.53 | extor | maligor, which channels? |
| 16:38.59 | maligor | /whois Kano |
| 16:39.09 | extor | found it |
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| 16:39.28 | eptalon | heyas |
| 16:40.15 | maligor | Yancho, and it's supposed to be on the debian side of things and not for-example on a windows partition?-) |
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| 16:40.48 | Yancho | yeah its there - my dad keeps saying they are there lol |
| 16:41.25 | maligor | try running locate as root, depending on what locate you have, it might have permissions checking in it |
| 16:41.45 | eptalon | You know your printer is bad if it takes 12 mins to process a page of postscript data? |
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| 16:43.12 | Yancho | maligor i tried to locate excel but no excel.exe came out .. guess the installatin is rreally borked ey? |
| 16:43.13 | themill | eptalon: depends on the data.... if it's a 400MB uncompressed raster image then that's OK. If it's calculating fractals in postscript then that's OK. If it's a sheet of text then that's not so hot. |
| 16:43.29 | maligor | uh? |
| 16:43.38 | maligor | crossover office? |
| 16:43.53 | bazik|home | the source code of it? :-P |
| 16:44.14 | themill | Yancho: locate is case sensitive and I think you'll find it's EXCEL.EXE ... |
| 16:44.23 | eptalon | themill: psotscript is a scientific article of 1950, print job is a little over 10m, for 29 pages. Printer has about 20mb ram. |
| 16:45.10 | eptalon | themill: cups page loh tells me a page takes like 12 mins to process. |
| 16:45.24 | themill | eptalon: that's not so hot then. That's actually not bad scanning to be that small for the article |
| 16:45.38 | Yancho | themill still no luck .. no results again ... not sure if its wine / cxoffice |
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| 16:46.10 | eptalon | themill: you say a current laser printer would be much faster? - or is it simply a memory problem? |
| 16:46.43 | eptalon | themill: printer is specified to do 12ppm, 4-6 in duplex (which I am doing) |
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| 16:47.18 | justin | eptalon: postscript is a programming language |
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| 16:47.28 | eptalon | justin: I know. |
| 16:47.37 | justin | a few hundred byte postscript file can easily fill up the memory in a printer... |
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| 16:47.52 | themill | justin: if it's scans of an article that's not likely though |
| 16:48.24 | EugenMayer | hello. I just buyed an atom 330 Intel board. What kind of kernel should i use? |
| 16:48.27 | eptalon | themill: the article is pdf, which gets converted to postscript. |
| 16:48.34 | EugenMayer | (debian lenny stable) |
| 16:48.40 | themill | eptalon: yeah, I know the story |
| 16:49.03 | eptalon | EugenMayer: one for intel atom? |
| 16:49.09 | m314 | Is there a list of the packages available on the first DVD? |
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| 16:49.29 | eptalon | EugenMayer: "pentium" will probably work as well. |
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| 16:52.19 | eptalon | themill: so you say it is likely the cpu of the printer, and not its memory |
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| 16:52.52 | themill | eptalon: nfc. possibly. |
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| 16:53.39 | ranix | the driver could be shitty also |
| 16:53.52 | EugenMayer | eptalon: its an dualcore atom |
| 16:54.01 | ranix | EugenMayer: use amd64 or 686 |
| 16:54.10 | EugenMayer | eptalon: cant find a kernel anmed *atom* in the portage |
| 16:54.20 | ranix | atom is not an architecture |
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| 16:54.37 | EugenMayer | actually not? |
| 16:54.43 | ranix | rly rly |
| 16:54.45 | EugenMayer | its like the Eden of via, or? |
| 16:54.51 | ranix | use amd64 or 686 |
| 16:54.55 | mischief | can someone tell me how i can add an alternative for update-alternatives? |
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| 16:55.18 | ranix | Atom is a dual-core 64-bit x86 processor with performance comparable to a similarly-clocked p4 |
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| 16:55.27 | ranix | with low power consumption |
| 16:55.45 | ranix | exactly like every website on Google when you search for "intel atom" tells you |
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| 16:56.18 | mischief | ranix, there is no such thing as a 64 bit x86 processor |
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| 16:56.45 | EugenMayer | ranix: kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 16:56.50 | ranix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 |
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| 16:56.54 | ranix | mischief: don't be a pedant |
| 16:57.03 | EugenMayer | isnt that a bit old. Strange as i use lenny, this should actually be the .27 ones, or? |
| 16:57.14 | mischief | EugenMayer, stable has .26 |
| 16:57.15 | maligor | ranix, most of them are single-core afaik |
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| 16:57.25 | ranix | maligor: good luck finding a single core atom |
| 16:57.29 | EugenMayer | mischief: any idea why i miss them?= |
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| 16:57.58 | ranix | do they still make those? |
| 16:58.08 | ranix | the d945gclf is all dual-core now |
| 16:58.33 | EugenMayer | ranix: any below atom 330 are single |
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| 16:58.44 | maligor | I think all netbooks are singlecore |
| 16:58.53 | EugenMayer | they mostly are 220 |
| 16:58.58 | EugenMayer | or 230 |
| 16:59.34 | mischief | can someone please tell me how i can add an alternative for update-alternatives? |
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| 17:00.27 | wOPr | anyone here had ever used DARKICE ? |
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| 17:00.45 | maligor | ranix, and p4's should be faster at similar clock :P |
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| 17:03.41 | EugenMayer | ranix: linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 <- that one? |
| 17:03.48 | jake_ | hey, i don't suppose anyone here has installed ut2004 on Linux? |
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| 17:04.07 | jake_ | I've just in installed it, but for some reason, wheni start it i get unsupported video mode from my monitor. |
| 17:04.14 | ranix | that'll work fine |
| 17:04.25 | jake_ | i've edited the settings in the user.ini and ut2004.ini, but it still doesn't work. |
| 17:04.30 | ranix | maligor: benchmarks say they're comprable actually |
| 17:04.33 | jake_ | I have to kill my session when i get it. |
| 17:04.35 | ranix | maligor: you shouldn't notice much difference |
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| 17:04.56 | EugenMayer | ranix: great. Actually is SMP included by default in the 686? |
| 17:05.18 | ranix | EugenMayer: I think so, it's been awhile since I had to get an smp-tagged kernel |
| 17:05.22 | ranix | talking years and years |
| 17:05.33 | ranix | they might have phased that out in early 2007? |
| 17:05.34 | ranix | !smp |
| 17:05.35 | dpkg | it has been said that smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMP-HOWTO.html, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or ... |
| 17:05.35 | EugenMayer | well i guess uname -a will tell me |
| 17:06.03 | ranix | I think that factoid is outdated |
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| 17:06.47 | EugenMayer | ranix: actually bigmem is need from > 2GB or? |
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| 17:07.08 | maligor | EugenMayer, depends on pci, but for >3.2GB I should imagine |
| 17:07.15 | valdyn | ranix: why would it be outdated? |
| 17:07.16 | ranix | EugenMayer: generally, avoid bigmem and try to use amd64 instead |
| 17:07.30 | EugenMayer | well anyway, i have 2GB at max, so no worries |
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| 17:07.43 | EugenMayer | maligor: i guess its about the 32bit poiners.. |
| 17:08.00 | maligor | yeah, the pci devices map their memory to the same area |
| 17:08.16 | maligor | I've always wondered what would happen if you put a 4GB videocard in |
| 17:08.28 | maligor | it'd map the entire 32bit memory area |
| 17:08.30 | EugenMayer | well, into a server |
| 17:08.37 | EugenMayer | i guess, i`ll never do that :) |
| 17:08.53 | ranix | valdyn: the link is outdated and suggests odd things about pentium 4s, which not too many people will be asking questions about these days |
| 17:08.59 | EugenMayer | i just asked myself, why the minum AGP aperture size is 128MB on this mobo...what a waste |
| 17:09.21 | stew | ranix: do you have a better url? |
| 17:09.22 | maligor | you can get 2gb cards so two of those might work, heh |
| 17:09.29 | ranix | stew: nope, else I'd fix it |
| 17:09.30 | enouf | aperture should be larger as vram decreases |
| 17:09.33 | enouf | in general |
| 17:09.41 | ranix | I just wanted to mention that I thought it was outdated since I invoked it |
| 17:10.13 | ranix | that it wasn't really relevent to the conversation |
| 17:10.56 | stew | it all looks pretty accurate to me |
| 17:11.04 | ultraj6 | 64 bit x86 generally refers to x86-64 |
| 17:11.26 | enouf | or more accurately; amd64 |
| 17:11.43 | ranix | em64t! |
| 17:11.46 | ranix | (lol) |
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| 17:11.54 | ultraj6 | damn i forgot what i was going to say |
| 17:12.04 | enouf | intel64! |
| 17:12.17 | bazik|home | has a sparc64 next to him |
| 17:12.24 | ultraj6 | cool |
| 17:12.41 | maligor | enouf, what does that have to do with x86? |
| 17:12.41 | enouf | which OS? |
| 17:12.55 | bazik|home | enouf: gentoo. *cough* |
| 17:13.01 | enouf | maligor: what does what have to do with x86? |
| 17:13.13 | enouf | bazik|home: better ;-) |
| 17:13.17 | stew | maligor: what does which have to do with x86? his made up arch name? |
| 17:13.20 | maligor | intel64 aka ia64 |
| 17:13.27 | abrotman | intel64 is not ia64 |
| 17:13.35 | maligor | really? |
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| 17:13.53 | enouf | really |
| 17:13.58 | stew | intel64 is somethign enouf made up |
| 17:13.59 | maligor | oh.. yes, how confusing |
| 17:14.07 | stew | oh |
| 17:14.11 | ranix | intel64 is marketing retards renaming em64t which was marketing retards rebranding amd64 |
| 17:14.14 | maligor | no, there's actually a 'Intel® 64 Architecture' |
| 17:14.15 | stew | actually it looks like that is what intel is using for emt64 |
| 17:14.15 | enouf | no it isn't stew - it's Intel's latest rendition |
| 17:14.17 | abrotman | it's not something enouf made up .. it's something intel did to further confuse customers |
| 17:14.23 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel64 |
| 17:14.23 | enouf | ranix: bingo |
| 17:14.26 | bazik|home | !blame intel |
| 17:14.26 | dpkg | blames mucus_ and intel for all the evil in the world |
| 17:14.30 | maligor | I guess Intel Architecture 64 is ia64, heh |
| 17:14.32 | abrotman | notice it redirects to x86_64 |
| 17:14.48 | mucus_ | \o/ |
| 17:14.53 | abrotman | ranix: supposedly intel64 does differ in some small way from em64t also |
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| 17:15.06 | stew | abrotman: from amd64? |
| 17:15.21 | abrotman | from it all i believe .. like it has three eyeballs or something silly |
| 17:15.26 | stew | (emt64 and amd64 have extremely tiny differences, irrc) |
| 17:15.26 | ranix | abrotman: I know the original em64t had a bizarre sleep(0) bug, but I thought that was more of a broken API thing |
| 17:15.29 | abrotman | wait for Wyzard to come around and ask him |
| 17:15.38 | stew | that's ok |
| 17:15.39 | ranix | don't know why they had to change the name |
| 17:15.42 | ranix | to fix sleep |
| 17:16.06 | abrotman | ranix: admittedly .. em64t doesn't exactly roll off the tongue :) |
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| 17:16.15 | ranix | I think it's catchy |
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| 17:16.25 | ranix | and it looked super cool on the processor boxes |
| 17:16.29 | ultraj6 | i just got a dl580 g2 for free and don't know what to do with it |
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| 17:16.32 | abrotman | ranix: might make a good band name ? |
| 17:16.37 | enouf | stew: also; one CPU will compile better using certain compiler than others (IOW, the intel compiler is refined to exploit Intel CPUs moreso than AMD64 ones) |
| 17:16.45 | abrotman | SUNDAY NIGHT .. EM64T WILL ROCK YOUR SOCKS OFF! |
| 17:16.46 | maligor | ultraj6, a doorstop? |
| 17:16.50 | abrotman | i've seen worse i guess |
| 17:16.51 | ranix | abrotman: I think they messed it up too much to use now though |
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| 17:16.58 | ultraj6 | its a possibility maligor |
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| 17:17.30 | abrotman | ultraj6: install linux on it .. use it ? |
| 17:17.43 | gihan | hello, i got a problem when running apt-get install kernel-patch-mppe |
| 17:17.45 | Yancho | how can i copy the whole hard disk to a nas mounted on /media/nas please? |
| 17:17.46 | abrotman | bye dpkg |
| 17:17.52 | enouf | IIRC, there were some late addons to the 64 bit extensions, that Intel, like Micropoop decided to make quitre proprietary |
| 17:17.55 | maligor | ultraj6, nice case it has, maybe you can change the innards :P |
| 17:17.57 | ranix | ultraj6: I share your pain |
| 17:18.05 | abrotman | enouf: really .. can you stop acting like a child? |
| 17:18.07 | ultraj6 | it does have a very nice case |
| 17:18.14 | ranix | ultraj6: I have some geode boards from advantech and I have no idea what to do with them |
| 17:18.22 | ultraj6 | and that would be awesome to replace the motherboard |
| 17:18.31 | enouf | abrotman: what? |
| 17:18.32 | ranix | "Install linux" only gets you so far when you've installed linux on everything else already anyway |
| 17:18.36 | gihan | apt-get install kernel-patch-mppe this is the error E: Package kernel-patch-mppe has no installation candidate |
| 17:18.37 | abrotman | you know exactly what |
| 17:18.56 | enouf | abrotman: no, i don't |
| 17:18.58 | ultraj6 | it actually has lenny on it right now |
| 17:19.04 | abrotman | ultraj6: you probably wouldn't be able to easily replace it |
| 17:19.11 | abrotman | enouf: the exact same thing you were asked to stop two days ago |
| 17:19.13 | ultraj6 | i agree abrotman |
| 17:19.31 | enouf | abrotman: which was? |
| 17:19.52 | abrotman | isn't going to play along |
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| 17:20.07 | ranix | trolling |
| 17:20.09 | enouf | you started the game |
| 17:20.16 | chaplja| | clear_console |
| 17:20.20 | chaplja| | ? |
| 17:20.20 | abrotman | freaking kids ... |
| 17:20.36 | enouf | very mature |
| 17:20.39 | maheshm | hi, if i have to mount a drive without noexec or nodev what should i do? |
| 17:20.49 | enouf | maheshm: why? |
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| 17:20.59 | enouf | maheshm: they do different things? |
| 17:21.04 | enouf | er .. no ? |
| 17:21.11 | gihan | any one can help? |
| 17:21.28 | maheshm | to run debootstrap i want my drives to be mounted without these! |
| 17:21.31 | enouf | maheshm: man mount explains it |
| 17:22.05 | enouf | maheshm: my bad, i misread - i thought you said 'with' and 'or' |
| 17:22.17 | chaplja| | clear_console |
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| 17:22.29 | valdyn | maheshm: you can mount it without an option, that gives ou no nodev and no noexec |
| 17:22.34 | ultraj6 | anyone have any experience with squid? |
| 17:22.38 | valdyn | maheshm: so whats the problem? |
| 17:22.49 | maheshm | no that doesnt work |
| 17:22.51 | Nana | hello, |
| 17:22.55 | Nana | can some one help me ? |
| 17:22.55 | valdyn | maheshm: yes it works |
| 17:22.58 | enouf | maheshm: maheshm what options are you using now? |
| 17:23.01 | Nana | my linux is messed up, |
| 17:23.02 | valdyn | maheshm: thats how *everyone* does it |
| 17:23.17 | enouf | maheshm: what FStype? |
| 17:23.24 | maheshm | ext2 |
| 17:23.27 | maheshm | 3* |
| 17:23.36 | enouf | so remove defaults |
| 17:23.43 | maheshm | and |
| 17:23.49 | maheshm | what in its place? |
| 17:23.52 | enouf | add which ones you want |
| 17:23.52 | chaplja| | Nana: please say more about your mess up |
| 17:24.04 | enouf | or none |
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| 17:24.17 | maheshm | none will work |
| 17:24.18 | wOPr | anyone here had ever used DARKICE ? |
| 17:24.21 | acton | hello; I've got a quick question. does debootstrap install a kernel and grub? |
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| 17:24.25 | valdyn | i think he just doesnt understand how to get around automounting |
| 17:24.36 | enouf | probably |
| 17:24.40 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 17:24.40 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 17:24.45 | valdyn | maheshm: read ^^, then come back |
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| 17:25.00 | JosefAssad | moin |
| 17:25.47 | JosefAssad | What is considered the simplest way of installing testing? Regular 5.01 netinst, then change the sources to testing and update && dist-upgrade? |
| 17:25.56 | maheshm | ok, thanks |
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| 17:26.08 | valdyn | JosefAssad: yes, exactly like that |
| 17:26.17 | JosefAssad | valdyn: okie dokie. Thanks! |
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| 17:26.47 | valdyn | reason being that non-stable installers are commonly broken |
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| 17:27.24 | JosefAssad | I kind of thought so. |
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| 17:27.44 | JosefAssad | I'd help testing them, but this is my primary computer |
| 17:27.47 | acton | ok, so apparently debootstrap doesn't install kernels and grub. is there a way I can make it do so? I'm trying to build a deb system from a live cd. |
| 17:28.15 | valdyn | acton: no, thats not necessary |
| 17:28.29 | acton | what, a kernel? >.> |
| 17:28.41 | valdyn | acton: debootstrap to install a kernel |
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| 17:28.58 | acton | then how do I install grub and a kernel? |
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| 17:29.22 | valdyn | acton: bind mount the usual virtual filesystems /sys and /dev and /proc into the chroot |
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| 17:29.38 | valdyn | acton: then run "chroot /path/to/chroot" |
| 17:29.47 | acton | but I still need a kernel if this is going to work |
| 17:29.52 | valdyn | acton: then you probably need to fix /etc/resolv.conf, then you can install things |
| 17:29.59 | acton | o, gotcha |
| 17:30.01 | acton | thanks |
| 17:30.09 | Yancho | is this command good to backup my hard disk into my nas please: dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1k conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | "dd of=/media/nas/backup.gz bs=1k" |
| 17:30.15 | acton | is there a basc package that will include the latest kernel? |
| 17:30.18 | acton | base** |
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| 17:30.27 | valdyn | acton: linux-image-something |
| 17:30.38 | valdyn | acton: that only really works for stable though |
| 17:30.42 | acton | nods. I'm pn a p4, wasn't sure which one I needed. |
| 17:30.50 | acton | yeah, I'm on stable, will upgrade once I get the system up |
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| 17:31.01 | valdyn | acton: theres a virtual package for all different kernels |
| 17:31.18 | valdyn | acton: you need -686 |
| 17:31.26 | acton | gotcha, thanks |
| 17:31.28 | enouf | Yancho: everything before the 1st pipe is fine, but you might want to try bs=4M or =32k |
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| 17:32.07 | valdyn | acton: theres packages depending on the at the time latest kernel, i dont know if you were asking for that |
| 17:32.08 | Yancho | enouf this is a very old pc . 11gb hard disk .. not too sure i want to over size the bs |
| 17:32.21 | acton | yeah, that's what I needed, thanks |
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| 17:32.32 | valdyn | Yancho: why the hell sync ? |
| 17:32.35 | acton | I can do mount --bind /proc /root/mnt/proc -t proc to bind, right? |
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| 17:33.11 | Yancho | valdyn no idea followng this : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/saw27/notes/backup-hard-disk-partitions.html |
| 17:33.16 | valdyn | acton: just "mount --bind /proc /root/mnt/proc" |
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| 17:33.32 | acton | nods, same on sys? |
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| 17:33.59 | valdyn | Yancho: thats a fucked up idea i think |
| 17:34.04 | valdyn | Yancho: but probably does nothing |
| 17:34.31 | valdyn | Yancho: noerror sounds like the wrong thing too |
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| 17:34.41 | Yancho | valdyn any suggestions who i should do it please? :) newbie here |
| 17:34.50 | acton | got it, thanks for the help |
| 17:35.01 | valdyn | Yancho: just skip the conv stuff |
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| 17:35.24 | Yancho | is this command good to backup my hard disk into my nas please: dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1k | gzip -c | "dd of=/media/nas/backup.gz bs=1k" <- last part ok? |
| 17:35.29 | valdyn | Yancho: and if it aborts on error then you have a problem but just ignoring errors is wrong |
| 17:35.53 | Yancho | im not restoring from the image |
| 17:35.54 | mathbr_ | Hi. Am I right assuming that installing a amd64 Debian via debootstrap while running an i386 kernel on a 64bit CPU is impossible? |
| 17:36.11 | Yancho | just so that if there is some document file whic is lost i can fnd it when i mount it from elsewhere |
| 17:36.13 | valdyn | Yancho: yes and no |
| 17:36.14 | acton | no |
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| 17:36.20 | acton | just set the arch |
| 17:36.23 | valdyn | Yancho: i would use dumpe2fs |
| 17:36.30 | valdyn | Yancho: but your thing should work |
| 17:36.39 | Yancho | my nas is fat32 |
| 17:36.57 | valdyn | Yancho: hda1 is fat32? |
| 17:37.00 | mathbr | acton: I tried getting "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /tmp/Root mount -t proc proc /proc", the command itself yields "chroot: cannot run command `mount': Exec format error" |
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| 17:37.21 | Yancho | no hda1 is ext(no idea if 2/3) |
| 17:37.30 | valdyn | mathbr: thats a weird command you are trying to run |
| 17:37.38 | enouf | Yancho: file -s /dev/hda1 |
| 17:37.41 | mathbr | valdyn: I did not do anything, just ran debootstrap |
| 17:37.53 | mathbr | Via "debootstrap --arch=amd64 sid Root http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian" |
| 17:37.55 | ranix | running debootstrap is not nothing |
| 17:37.56 | valdyn | mathbr: trying to bootstrap a 64-bit system from a 32-bit system? |
| 17:38.04 | mathbr | valdyn: Yeah. |
| 17:38.04 | valdyn | mathbr: that does not work |
| 17:38.06 | ranix | that doesn't wark |
| 17:38.14 | mathbr | Thought so. ;-) |
| 17:38.16 | valdyn | mathbr: you need a 64-bit kernel for your 32-bit system first |
| 17:38.16 | Yancho | -> /dev/hda1: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data (needs journal recovery) (large files) |
| 17:38.25 | enouf | that doesn't work ;-) |
| 17:38.32 | stew | it works from a 32 bit userspace with a 64 bit kernel |
| 17:38.42 | valdyn | Yancho: its mounted right now? |
| 17:38.43 | enouf | that's different |
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| 17:38.49 | Yancho | yes valdyn |
| 17:38.56 | mathbr | valdyn: Hm, will my current i386 system still be usable if I try switching to an amd64 kernel? |
| 17:38.58 | valdyn | Yancho: and you cannot unmount it to back it up? |
| 17:39.11 | Yancho | how can i unmount the root? :S |
| 17:39.26 | valdyn | Yancho: dont use dd then |
| 17:39.34 | valdyn | Yancho: that doesnt work |
| 17:39.39 | enouf | right ... |
| 17:39.57 | enouf | but Yancho you can boot into single and remount ro |
| 17:39.59 | valdyn | i beleive dumpe2fs works live, but i dont actually know |
| 17:40.18 | Yancho | single mode on the mchine right? |
| 17:40.23 | Yancho | not via ssh |
| 17:40.28 | kali67 | running into a weird problem , I have 2 80 GB hd in a s/w raid1 and 4 1.5 TB in h/w raid 5 on debian etch . The problem is that s/w raid1 is sometimes /dev/sda and sometimes /dev/sdc between reboots ! HOw can I have the system consistenly use /dev/sda for S/w raid1 and /dev/sdc for h/w raid 5 ? |
| 17:40.31 | acton | how do I make grub install to the master boot record? |
| 17:41.06 | enouf | you can get there without rebooting too - but it can be a bit troublesome withouh knowing what you're doing - i'd use sysrq personally ;-) |
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| 17:41.32 | Yancho | sysrq to me enouf? |
| 17:41.50 | enouf | acton: use /dev/hdX not /hdXX |
| 17:41.59 | mathbr | Will my current i386 system still be usable if I try switching to an amd64 kernel? |
| 17:42.04 | acton | huh?... |
| 17:42.13 | enouf | or just (hdX) not (hdX,X) |
| 17:42.17 | acton | I have my kernel installed. |
| 17:42.21 | acton | and I got grub. |
| 17:42.28 | acton | I need to add grub to the mbr somehow |
| 17:42.32 | enouf | Yancho: well - if you're familiar with it |
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| 17:42.46 | Yancho | no idea enouf .. so whatever u tell me i do :) |
| 17:42.53 | enouf | start the grub shell and install it |
| 17:42.59 | kali67 | valdyn: any suggestions ? |
| 17:43.03 | enouf | root .... ; setup .... |
| 17:43.24 | valdyn | kali67: why do you care? |
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| 17:43.49 | enouf | Yancho: well, 1st, you do know about the fat32 $GB FileSIZE limit? |
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| 17:44.00 | enouf | er 4GB |
| 17:44.05 | Yancho | yes i know |
| 17:44.07 | valdyn | kali67: you cant do it. |
| 17:44.08 | mathbr | I'll just ry. |
| 17:44.25 | valdyn | kali67: if you want to refer to specific storage you need to use /dev/disk/by-uuid/ or by-id |
| 17:44.30 | enouf | Yancho: i'd reboot into single mode; enter root passwd, remount ro |
| 17:44.54 | acton | lol. |
| 17:44.55 | kali67 | valdyn: how can I have the storage on raid5 come up on boot without having to manually mount |
| 17:44.55 | enouf | Yancho: check no unneeded processes are running with ps / pstree ... |
| 17:45.07 | Yancho | so let me see if i understod u |
| 17:45.09 | valdyn | kali67: fstab supports UUID= |
| 17:45.12 | Yancho | reboot - and enter single mode |
| 17:45.13 | valdyn | kali67: see the manpage |
| 17:45.16 | EugenMayer | what is the correct way to install the fcpci driver ( firtzcard pci ) under lenny |
| 17:45.25 | enouf | Yancho: yep |
| 17:45.29 | Yancho | i login an as user root / pass mypass |
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| 17:45.40 | enouf | Yancho: yep |
| 17:45.41 | Yancho | then mount /dev/hda1 / ? |
| 17:45.59 | acton | I have root(hd0,0) how do I make it install? |
| 17:46.00 | enouf | Yancho: it'll offer you CTRL-D or Root passwd |
| 17:46.07 | enouf | for mainatenance |
| 17:46.09 | kali67 | valdyn: looking it up. thanks for the tip |
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| 17:46.26 | enouf | Yancho: no .. ne need to mount it |
| 17:46.35 | Yancho | ow ic |
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| 17:46.40 | enouf | Yancho: wait - what's hda1? |
| 17:46.44 | enouf | your / ? |
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| 17:46.48 | Yancho | yes |
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| 17:46.59 | Yancho | --- /dev/hda1 11G 1.7G 8.5G 17% / |
| 17:47.04 | enouf | Yancho: you mount -o remount / ro |
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| 17:47.18 | enouf | er |
| 17:47.26 | Yancho | im lost enouf sorry |
| 17:47.27 | enouf | Yancho: you mount -o remount,ro / |
| 17:47.38 | enouf | run that command |
| 17:47.45 | Yancho | now or in single mode? |
| 17:47.49 | enouf | once in single mode |
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| 17:47.51 | enouf | as root |
| 17:48.01 | Yancho | ok :) you is command or you = me? :S |
| 17:48.18 | enouf | mount - and cat /proc/mounts is good check |
| 17:48.28 | enouf | you == you |
| 17:48.43 | Yancho | ow ic :) was surprised with this new comand lol |
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| 17:48.53 | enouf | Yancho: "mount -o remount,ro /" |
| 17:48.59 | Yancho | gotcha :) |
| 17:49.09 | jim_ec2 | anyone hear about a recent openssh vulnerability on debian? |
| 17:49.24 | zinx | i heard about a recent problem with the SSH protocol in general |
| 17:49.28 | valdyn | jim_ec2: how recent? |
| 17:49.42 | jim_ec2 | valdyn: like today or yesterday |
| 17:49.53 | blackbeard2001 | link? |
| 17:49.58 | zinx | and i heard about an article which very misleadingly singles out Debian and OpenSSH, even though it affects anything that uses the ssh protocol on any os |
| 17:49.59 | jim_ec2 | someone in our lug posted a link to zdnet about it and it's 404 atm |
| 17:50.08 | enouf | Yancho: at that point, you could use various methods, cp, rsync, tar+gz, or dd or others |
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| 17:50.18 | Yancho | enouf then i should mount the nas right? |
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| 17:50.32 | jim_ec2 | zinx: that's kinda what I suspected |
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| 17:50.59 | jim_ec2 | I didn't see anything on the security ML or website |
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| 17:52.00 | valdyn | google doesnt know it either |
| 17:52.04 | enouf | Yancho: if you want to use a FS level copying tool, then you have to mount the NAS |
| 17:52.13 | enouf | well ... |
| 17:52.23 | enouf | cp can/does /dev/names, IIRC |
| 17:52.44 | Yancho | no i just want to copy the files - the hard disk is going to be formatted so i dont care about fs |
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| 17:53.01 | enouf | Yancho: dd is block level, not FS level - and you'll end up with ext3 on NAS ;-) |
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| 17:53.09 | Yancho | tar cvf - / | gzip -9c > /meda/nas/backup.tar.gz |
| 17:53.22 | Yancho | no thanks then i dotn ant to corrupt th nas :) thanks for telling me ;) |
| 17:53.24 | jbjohns | hi, any people here good with selinux or should I go to the selinux channel? |
| 17:53.37 | valdyn | jim_ec2: if you gave us the actual link.. |
| 17:53.45 | valdyn | jim_ec2: or you check the google cache yourself |
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| 17:54.04 | macman_ | how many bootable oes's can i have if i can only have 4 primary paritions and 1 of them is swap ? |
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| 17:54.17 | valdyn | macman_: 16? |
| 17:54.23 | valdyn | macman_: 50000 ? |
| 17:54.24 | jim_ec2 | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-303182.html |
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| 17:54.26 | macman_ | valdyn: /// ? |
| 17:54.42 | enouf | 3 ... well .. |
| 17:54.53 | ranix | macman_: that's an invalid question |
| 17:54.56 | enouf | macman_: why? |
| 17:55.09 | valdyn | macman_: the limit is in that range. |
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| 17:55.15 | valdyn | macman_: more like 50000 than 16 |
| 17:55.17 | enouf | heh |
| 17:55.17 | macman_ | ok my bad let me refrase |
| 17:55.29 | jim_ec2 | ah yeah it is cached on google |
| 17:55.36 | jbjohns | basically, I see a lot of postfix stuff is getting denied and it apears to be because the script is running in udev_t context somehow |
| 17:55.40 | Yancho | enouf wait my problem like this would be that the backup.tar.gz will be mor than 4GB = FAIL right? :( |
| 17:55.41 | kanon-mat | i installed kde4 on sid and cannot startkde. i have kdebase kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace |
| 17:55.41 | jim_ec2 | it's the supposed weakness in the ssh spec |
| 17:55.43 | jbjohns | same thing with the ssh stuff under if-up.post or whatever |
| 17:55.52 | EugenMayer | how to install the current kernel headers? |
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| 17:56.02 | gihan | hello all, im trying to install VPN-PPTP server im getting error while running apt-get install kernel-patch-mppe |
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| 17:56.13 | sge_ | hi all |
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| 17:56.50 | kanon-mat | startx just starts kaboom and the beginning of a splash. how do i launch kde4? |
| 17:57.01 | Jemt | Guys, I need to wipe the MBR of a USB flash key clean. How do I do that using dd? It should be possible writing nulls, right? I was thinking about something like this: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 |
| 17:57.16 | valdyn | thats hole doesnt seem relevant to 99.999% of ssh users |
| 17:57.22 | ranix | Jemt: /dev/zero instead of /dev/null |
| 17:57.34 | Jemt | ranix: I see. Thank you for correcting me :) |
| 17:57.40 | jintxo | gihan, I believe the mppe module is part of the standard" kernel now. run "modprobe -l | grep mppe" to see if it's avilable to you |
| 17:57.47 | ranix | not sure exactly what the difference is, Jemt |
| 17:57.51 | kanon-mat | say /dev/null is a black hole :) |
| 17:57.53 | ranix | but just that /dev/zero is more correct |
| 17:57.57 | sge_ | anyone install ion3 on minimal debbian? |
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| 17:58.08 | sylar | blame dpkg for the evil in the world |
| 17:58.12 | Jemt | Okay, I'd better use /dev/zero then :) |
| 17:58.19 | valdyn | judd: versions openssh |
| 17:58.20 | Jemt | kanon-mat: A black hole? :p |
| 17:58.20 | judd | valdyn: openssh -- |
| 17:58.23 | valdyn | judd: versions openssh-server |
| 17:58.24 | judd | valdyn: openssh-server -- etch: 1:4.3p2-9etch3 etch-security: 1:4.3p2-9etch3 lenny: 1:5.1p1-5 sid: 1:5.1p1-5+b1 squeeze: 1:5.1p1-5+b1 |
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| 17:58.34 | gihan | <jintxo> : FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.28.4-xxxx-std-ipv4-32-mod/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
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| 17:58.38 | bookmark | hello |
| 17:58.42 | fenfir | hello |
| 17:58.48 | abrotman | gihan: that's ont a debian kernel |
| 17:58.52 | bookmark | does anyone know how to copy a partition including the first sector? |
| 17:58.58 | Jemt | I guess it makes sence writing zeros to the devices. Null is more like a state that has not been defined |
| 17:59.00 | jintxo | gihan, is that debian? |
| 17:59.03 | bookmark | the volume boot record |
| 17:59.07 | gihan | yes |
| 17:59.18 | jintxo | gihan, and where did you get tht kernel? |
| 17:59.23 | tupoj-olen | hello |
| 17:59.34 | bookmark | dd i suppose? |
| 17:59.41 | gihan | <jintxo> : its a server from OVH.CO.UK |
| 17:59.43 | Jemt | bookmark: You could copy an entire partition like this: dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/home/backup.img bs=4096 |
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| 17:59.55 | fenfir | I'm trying to install 5.0.1 on a Dell r710, but it doesn't recognize the nic or the PERC 6/i controller. If I do an lspci it does see them and apparently knows which modules to use, but I cant get it to use either device |
| 18:00.00 | bookmark | Jemt: no i want to put it from one place to another |
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| 18:00.09 | bookmark | i have two partitions but one is empty |
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| 18:00.47 | bookmark | right now i have 4 partitions two have working linii, one blank, and one scratch |
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| 18:00.57 | acton | I'm using setup (hd0) it's not recognizing it... is there a way I can install it to /dev/sda?... |
| 18:00.59 | bookmark | i want to copy a linux to the blank one |
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| 18:01.08 | acton | not sure what device sda is |
| 18:01.10 | jintxo | gihan, yeah well anyways, that package that you're trying to install was once used to patch a DEBIAN KERNEL source tree in order to get the mppe module. that kernel that you are wanting to patch is not a debian kernel, so obviously that package you are wanting to install is useless to you. |
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| 18:01.25 | bookmark | sda is a sata harddrive |
| 18:01.34 | acton | ok?... |
| 18:01.40 | Jemt | bookmark: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2 bs=4096 |
| 18:01.46 | acton | I new that. doesn't really explain how I'm going to get grub there, though |
| 18:01.50 | Jemt | bookmark: Then feel free to wipe sda1 clean afterwards |
| 18:01.53 | bookmark | not to be confused with sdb thought! heheh |
| 18:02.00 | Jemt | bookmark: Make sure the two partitions have identical size |
| 18:02.15 | bookmark | hmmm what if they are a little off? |
| 18:02.19 | gihan | <jintxo> : oh ok can you suggest way to create a vpn server on debian please? |
| 18:02.22 | bookmark | they are both rougly 10GIG |
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| 18:02.32 | Jemt | bookmark: As long as sda2 is bigger, then it's fine. Smaller won't be good |
| 18:02.36 | acton | is there a way to see what device sda is so I can setup? |
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| 18:03.02 | bookmark | ill format it and find out its size |
| 18:03.03 | jintxo | gihan, no, but I can tell you that the mppe module is now available without patching in a debian kernel. that good enough? |
| 18:03.48 | swolchok | how can I find out why a package didn't make it into lenny? |
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| 18:04.22 | Jemt | bookmark: fdisk /dev/sda -l |
| 18:04.26 | Jemt | bookmark: That will tell the size |
| 18:04.33 | gihan | <jintxo> : oh ok thank you. |
| 18:04.33 | acton | does anyone know how to get grub to install on a sda? setup (hd0) doesn't work. |
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| 18:04.49 | justin | grub-install /dev/sda ? |
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| 18:04.57 | acton | doesn't work. |
| 18:05.00 | acton | I'm in the grub shell |
| 18:05.03 | justin | !+doesn't work |
| 18:05.03 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 18:05.17 | acton | yes yes, I know. it errors. I'm trying to do it from the grub shell, thus the setup... |
| 18:05.47 | jintxo | acton, grub-install is run from your normal shell, not from within grub shell iirc |
| 18:05.54 | acton | I know... |
| 18:06.01 | Jemt | acton: Boot your PC using a LiveCD |
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| 18:06.06 | acton | I did |
| 18:06.19 | acton | but a live cd doesn't tell me much about how to get brub there. grub install errors with this: |
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| 18:06.59 | acton | brub probe error, can not find the device for /. grub probe error, can not find the device for /boot/ could not find the device for /boot. Not found, or not a block device. |
| 18:08.02 | acton | that's what grub-install errors with |
| 18:08.11 | Yancho | enouf will this work please? : tar cvf -L, --tape-length 3900000000 / | gzip -9c > /meda/nas/backup.tar.gz |
| 18:08.32 | kali67 | valdyn: you are a life saver |
| 18:09.35 | justin | Yancho: why are you specifying the tape length? |
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| 18:09.35 | Yancho | justin since /media/nas is fat32 so maxfilesize is 4gb |
| 18:09.35 | coldboot | When a debian package is being unpacked, do you know where it unpacks to? |
| 18:09.38 | acton | any ideas? |
| 18:09.45 | justin | Yancho: specifying the tape length like that is not going to help you |
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| 18:10.01 | enouf | ranix: /dev/zero writes zeros to the disk, /dev/null is where you send everything you never want to see again :-) |
| 18:10.09 | Jemt | Can someone tell me why dublicating a partition using dd renderes unused space unusable, if the source partition is bigger than the destination partition? dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda2 bs=4096 <= If sda2 is 5GB and sda1 is 4 GB, then sda2 will "loose" the last gigabyte. Does dd alter the partition table? |
| 18:10.23 | acton | no |
| 18:10.30 | enouf | Yancho: any file over 4G on a fat32 will fail |
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| 18:10.49 | justin | Jemt: you need to run resize2fs |
| 18:10.50 | Yancho | enouf thats why i tried to change thelength of tar |
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| 18:11.12 | enouf | Yancho: just rsync or cp it all over ... |
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| 18:11.19 | enouf | Yancho: see -a |
| 18:11.37 | Yancho | hmm yeah i can just cp it straight away ;) |
| 18:11.45 | ranix | 9~!cp |
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| 18:11.52 | Yancho | no hassle :D cp / /media/nas |
| 18:11.52 | ranix | fbi |
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| 18:11.57 | Jemt | justin: I see. I'll check the man pages :) |
| 18:12.01 | kali67 | valdyn: thank you . do you also consult ? I'd be more than happy to pass on your info to others |
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| 18:12.13 | bododo | hi folks! :) |
| 18:12.34 | Jemt | It dosn't quite answer my question though. What happens to the rest of the space on the partition when using dd ? |
| 18:12.41 | justin | Jemt: nothing |
| 18:12.47 | Jemt | It's not like the partition table is altered, right ? |
| 18:12.50 | bododo | anyone uses awesome? It doesn't work on my ppc :( |
| 18:13.13 | Jemt | Oh, it's because the file system is copied too, and it is formated to suite on a 4 GB partition - right ? |
| 18:13.20 | Jemt | At least that makes sense in my head :) |
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| 18:13.53 | ranix | Jemt: think of a disk as a block device separated into sections |
| 18:13.57 | Yancho | actually enouf it has to be : cp /dev/hda1 /mount/nas right? |
| 18:14.02 | ranix | Jemt: each block has data in it |
| 18:14.24 | bododo | also, should I switch from ubuntu to debian and if so, is there any solid reason? (no troll intended or wanted, please) |
| 18:14.24 | ranix | Jemt: each partition is a section of blocks, and there's always an extra small section somewhere for the master boot record |
| 18:14.26 | enouf | Yancho: doesn't have to be, but if it works, go ahead |
| 18:14.40 | Yancho | great tips enouf .. ill go and rn them :) thanks alot |
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| 18:14.58 | ranix | Jemt: the device for the whole disk is /dev/sda |
| 18:15.14 | bododo | a link to a good article or blog post would be fine :) |
| 18:15.17 | Jemt | ranix: Okay, that makes perfect sense. Copying sda1 to sda2 leaves us with space that has not been filled with block to which we can write |
| 18:15.27 | ranix | Jemt: exactly |
| 18:15.27 | Jemt | blocks* |
| 18:15.38 | nickgrey147 | I just upgraded to 2.626-2 all seems to work i just had to re do my nvidia drivers , can i just use Synaptic to remove all things 2.6.26-1 related (headers and such ) aswell as remove it from my /grub/menu.lst ??? |
| 18:15.38 | Jemt | ranix: Thank you. I have been wondering about this for some time :) |
| 18:15.46 | enouf | Jemt: nor is that empyty allocated space formatted into a FS |
| 18:15.59 | enouf | Jemt: hence resize2fs |
| 18:16.00 | ranix | it's not too complicated once you think about it |
| 18:16.06 | jbjohns | how can I see my runlevel on debian? |
| 18:16.13 | Jemt | Ah, yes. Perfect. Thanks both :) |
| 18:16.27 | bododo | anyone? :) |
| 18:16.42 | psycodad | jbjohns: runlevel ? |
| 18:16.58 | jbjohns | yea, you know rc3.d, rc5.d. I want to know which one is getting ran |
| 18:17.14 | ranix | bododo: you should switch from Ubuntu to Debian if you want to develop a more dirty understanding of your computer and how it works, and if you want to have more complete control |
| 18:17.34 | ranix | bododo: you should stick with ubuntu if you're already using it and you don't care |
| 18:17.38 | enouf | jbjohns: erm, the default is defined in /etc/inittab |
| 18:17.55 | psycodad | jbjohns: still, on my etch at hand its the cmd runlevel. |
| 18:17.57 | jbjohns | that's it. Thanks! |
| 18:17.58 | enouf | jbjohns: 'runlevel' will tell you current |
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| 18:18.05 | bododo | ranix: yes, that's what I was thinking too, I came from fedora (since fc3) but I'm on a ppc :( |
| 18:18.10 | enouf | and last |
| 18:18.13 | ranix | bododo: you'll find people who use Debian don't really care one way or another about Ubuntu, as it's for a different target audience entirely, and won't have links pointing to why it's better or worse |
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| 18:18.17 | bododo | being on a ppc is very frustrating sometimes |
| 18:18.19 | nickgrey147 | ranix: i cant tell the difference they are like exactly the same :/ |
| 18:18.31 | Asymmetry | beats his head on a wall. "I hate my wife..." |
| 18:18.44 | nickgrey147 | ranix: ubuntu is just a terrible name |
| 18:19.04 | ranix | the primary reason I use Debian is because I thought the swirl was sexy in like 1998 |
| 18:19.17 | bododo | actually I wanted to switch to have a clean and minimal linux |
| 18:19.32 | nickgrey147 | bododo: go arch |
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| 18:19.36 | Asymmetry | I switched because Gentoo was too unstable. |
| 18:19.40 | bododo | ubuntu by the way it installs stuff fills my HD and memory with stuff I don't need/want |
| 18:19.58 | Vasistha | this is odd... I'm trying to install a printer, and when I get to the last step, cupsd dies :( |
| 18:20.01 | ranix | bododo: just grab a lenny installer and don't install anything except "base system" |
| 18:20.21 | ranix | bododo: then use apt-get to pick and choose the programs you want, specifically, and build your own environment |
| 18:20.26 | bododo | ranix: you mean the netinst iso? |
| 18:20.33 | ranix | bododo: that's what I use |
| 18:20.44 | bododo | does it install the very bare thing? |
| 18:20.52 | bododo | no need for X, or anything |
| 18:20.53 | Asymmetry | bododo: Yes. Total basics. |
| 18:20.54 | enouf | yes |
| 18:20.56 | bododo | I can do it later |
| 18:20.59 | bododo | GREAT |
| 18:21.13 | Asymmetry | bododo: The only thing that it installs that MIGHT be considered extra is bash, instead of just 'sh'. |
| 18:21.15 | nickgrey147 | WHY does debain keep the old kernal version when update and add it to ur menu.lst aswell :/ |
| 18:21.23 | enouf | learn about package priority(ies) |
| 18:21.30 | bododo | I was affraid of netinstall because my Internet is slow and thought that I had to install with a required Internet |
| 18:21.44 | Vasistha | nickgrey147: just in case something doesn't work with the new kernel you can easily revert |
| 18:21.48 | ranix | nah you can use cdrom sources plenty fine |
| 18:21.52 | enouf | nickgrey147: because the old one works |
| 18:22.10 | ranix | the base system install uses less than 200 megs of hard disk space |
| 18:22.15 | ranix | maybe significantly less than that |
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| 18:22.21 | nickgrey147 | Vasistha: ahhh yes |
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| 18:22.40 | bododo | ranix: and I'll have some bash and some basic things like vi(m)? |
| 18:22.54 | ranix | bododo: base installs bash but not vim, just vi |
| 18:22.59 | bododo | I'll install xfce or even awesome if I can afterward |
| 18:23.02 | ranix | bododo: nothing apt-get install vim won't fix |
| 18:23.22 | nickgrey147 | ranix: iam quite sure it has nano |
| 18:23.25 | bododo | ranix: so apt-get is included with the base install? |
| 18:23.27 | ranix | nano is lame |
| 18:23.30 | ranix | yes |
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| 18:23.33 | bododo | feels ashamed and ignorant |
| 18:23.35 | enouf | and more, instead of less |
| 18:23.42 | nickgrey147 | i like nano :P |
| 18:23.46 | ranix | yes, less is like the second thing I install |
| 18:24.01 | ranix | followed quickly by screen\ |
| 18:24.27 | bododo | ah! screen! I'm on it now with irssi :) |
| 18:24.37 | ranix | yep, I use screen, irssi, and pork |
| 18:24.40 | Vasistha | I like nano too. I don't have to remember anything. It just works. If I accidentally paste something into it, there is no "wrong mode" where the paste can do strange things with my document. |
| 18:24.52 | ranix | new versions of screen can horzontal split you know, bododo |
| 18:24.54 | bododo | I love vi(m) can't live without it |
| 18:24.55 | ranix | ;) |
| 18:25.11 | ranix | ctrl->a->| |
| 18:25.17 | bododo | ranix: C-a S ? :) |
| 18:25.22 | Vasistha | ok funk dat I'ma go kinko's and print dat sheeaa |
| 18:25.24 | enouf | !start an editor war |
| 18:25.24 | dpkg | joe doesn't deserve to be in BSD |
| 18:25.29 | bododo | You meant vertically split? |
| 18:25.37 | ranix | both |
| 18:25.43 | bododo | really? |
| 18:25.45 | bododo | How? |
| 18:25.48 | ranix | ctrl a S and ctrl a | |
| 18:25.50 | bododo | I'll try it now |
| 18:25.56 | bododo | yay! |
| 18:26.07 | ranix | I just noticed that a couple months ago |
| 18:26.12 | ranix | I think it's very recent |
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| 18:26.27 | bododo | is it a pipe or an L? |
| 18:26.32 | ranix | pipe |
| 18:26.33 | mischief | can someone please tell me how i can add an alternative for update-alternatives? |
| 18:26.33 | nickgrey147 | pipe |
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| 18:26.37 | bododo | aha! |
| 18:26.48 | bododo | man I LOVE this! |
| 18:27.04 | bododo | I usually hate the other way of splitting even in vim |
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| 18:27.10 | bododo | thanks for the info :) |
| 18:27.14 | ranix | np |
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| 18:27.33 | bododo | I think that I'll be here more often :) |
| 18:27.38 | nickgrey147 | bododo: you from SA ? :P |
| 18:27.55 | bododo | SA? |
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| 18:28.13 | Haraken | I just got done upgrading from Etch to Lenny on a VPS, the VPS uses pygrub and everything seems to have upgraded smoothly. The only problem is I can't boot from the new kernel. The old kernel works just fine though. The new kernel version is 2.6.26-2-xen-686. Can anyone help me with this? |
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| 18:28.14 | bododo | what does it mean? SA? |
| 18:28.23 | nickgrey147 | bododo: south africa lol i presumed seen as u complained about your internet :P |
| 18:28.29 | bododo | :D |
| 18:28.30 | Haraken | It doesn't even give me an error, it Just says, Domain Started and then the vps shutsdown instead of booting. |
| 18:28.37 | bododo | even worse! |
| 18:28.48 | nickgrey147 | bododo: ? lol |
| 18:28.51 | bododo | northern africa :) |
| 18:29.05 | bododo | English is actually my 4th language |
| 18:29.05 | nickgrey147 | bododo: hahaha nyc |
| 18:29.20 | bododo | I LOVE NYC :) |
| 18:29.33 | nickgrey147 | bododo: atleast you know how to say ubuntu :P |
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| 18:29.42 | ranix | #debian-offtopic for OT conversation |
| 18:29.58 | bododo | nickgrey147: heh :) |
| 18:29.58 | ranix | (it is a good channel and people are actually in it btw) |
| 18:30.14 | bododo | you're right, sorry :) |
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| 18:30.40 | bododo | anyone is using a ppc, here? |
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| 18:31.02 | ranix | not I |
| 18:31.28 | bododo | I can't ger awesome to work, the alt key doesn't work |
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| 18:34.02 | natsukashi | I just tried to install debain with the graphic installer but it didn't find any of my partitions on my sda disk |
| 18:34.16 | natsukashi | *debian |
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| 18:34.57 | nickgrey147 | ntfs ? partitions ? |
| 18:35.22 | natsukashi | 2 ntfs partitions. 1 ext3 |
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| 18:35.59 | nickgrey147 | are you sure the drive is plugged in :P |
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| 18:36.11 | natsukashi | Yes. :P |
| 18:36.31 | natsukashi | Unless I have to manually mount it even in the graphical installer |
| 18:36.40 | nickgrey147 | lol and you have tryed more than once i presume :P |
| 18:36.44 | nickgrey147 | nope you dont |
| 18:36.52 | bododo | my tty1's screen resolution is very small. I guess I can change it using yaboot.conf append's command, but I don't know what to put :( |
| 18:36.53 | nickgrey147 | not even in the normal installer |
| 18:37.03 | nickgrey147 | not even in the expert |
| 18:37.07 | natsukashi | Nope, but gparteds live cd have the same problem. |
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| 18:37.21 | AakashPatel | err |
| 18:37.27 | AakashPatel | emchain -arch armel |
| 18:37.28 | nickgrey147 | hmmm |
| 18:37.39 | AakashPatel | http://pastebin.com/m5a70c7fd |
| 18:37.50 | Jemt | Does df, dd, and fdisk all consider a block 1024 KB ? I need to know if I can use the block count from is fdisk in resize2fs (resize2fs /dev/sda2 26948) |
| 18:38.07 | Jemt | from is fdisk = from ie fdisk |
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| 18:38.40 | servilio | hi! is it possible to convert a 32-bits installation to 64-bits? |
| 18:39.06 | nickgrey147 | natsukashi: go to your bios and see if the drive picks up there :/ |
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| 18:40.31 | natsukashi | 'kay |
| 18:40.33 | nickgrey147 | natsukashi: if not try swapping the power plug to your harddrive and the sata or ide cable |
| 18:41.42 | natsukashi | Thanks. I'll be back in a minute. :D |
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| 18:42.15 | AakashPatel | anyone know why im getting that error? |
| 18:42.19 | nickgrey147 | natsukashi: ahhh you on the pc lol :/ |
| 18:42.27 | AakashPatel | is the package brokeded or somrthing? |
| 18:43.11 | wOPr | anyone here had ever used DARKICE ? |
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| 18:43.43 | nickgrey147 | AakashPatel: wrong version ? |
| 18:43.58 | AakashPatel | nickgrey147: hm...is there anyway to fix taht? |
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| 18:44.41 | AakashPatel | ...cuz i kinda need that for my job :x |
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| 18:44.47 | nickgrey147 | AakashPatel: get the latest version :D |
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| 18:45.08 | AakashPatel | nickgrey147: lol |
| 18:45.09 | AakashPatel | but how? |
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| 18:46.28 | nickgrey147 | lol where did you get it from in the first place ? |
| 18:46.37 | patintin | waves |
| 18:46.40 | AakashPatel | apt-get? |
| 18:46.45 | nickgrey147 | oo ok :P |
| 18:47.05 | AakashPatel | http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Compiling_for_Android |
| 18:47.10 | AakashPatel | those instructions |
| 18:47.12 | patintin | i have 2 squid instances running on my machine. how can i monitor the squid's mgr:info for both squid instances? |
| 18:47.20 | nickgrey147 | did you do a apt-get update first ? |
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| 18:47.46 | nickgrey147 | and upgrade your system 2 :P , and if that doesnt work atleast your system will be up to date :D |
| 18:47.47 | nickgrey147 | lol |
| 18:48.40 | AakashPatel | dang it didnt work |
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| 18:52.37 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | can someone kick [Baby20] ? Is a spam bot |
| 18:52.56 | AakashPatel | yeah |
| 18:53.05 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | bheja kha raha hai |
| 18:53.11 | AakashPatel | sent me a porn link lol |
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| 18:53.18 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | haan |
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| 18:56.07 | ErrantEgo | christel: taken care of |
| 18:56.39 | JosefAssad | erm, which kernel does testing sport at the moment? |
| 18:56.41 | christel | ah cool :) |
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| 19:04.52 | jbjohns | just did an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade it pulled a new kernel version and now my server doesn't boot. Anyone seen this? |
| 19:05.04 | jbjohns | it's a headless box, I'll have to throw a screen on it to see wtf is going on |
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| 19:06.08 | nickgrey147 | well you going to have to through a screen on it :P |
| 19:06.16 | nickgrey147 | no matter what it is |
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| 19:07.27 | nickgrey147 | or you could plug a keyboard in count to like 12 and press down twice :P |
| 19:07.47 | nickgrey147 | that might take a few trys tho |
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| 19:08.12 | Scurz | hi |
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| 19:09.32 | coldboot | When dpkg unpacks a deb, where does it put the files its unpacking? |
| 19:09.44 | macman_ | ok sorry for the leave but this i what i meant earlier .. i want to Quadroople boot my laptop with 4 linux distros .. how can i Quadroople boot my os if i can only have 4 primary paritions and 1 of them have to be swap ? |
| 19:10.13 | ZitZ | you need to create an extended partition |
| 19:10.47 | AakashPatel | is emchain completely messed up for armel on lenny? |
| 19:10.49 | coldboot | Windows has to be on a primary partition, though, so remember that if you're using it. |
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| 19:11.12 | ZitZ | linux can boot from an extended partition, windows and freebsd would need to be booted from a primary partition |
| 19:11.14 | macman_ | ZitZ: extended creats logical paritions ..logical paritions can't be booted up correct ? |
| 19:11.22 | macman_ | oh really |
| 19:11.34 | nickgrey147 | AakashPatel: i read up on it earlier it seems to be what people are saying |
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| 19:11.41 | macman_ | so only windows needs a primary ? |
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| 19:11.50 | ZitZ | yep, linux is great isn't it? |
| 19:11.54 | macman_ | of course |
| 19:11.58 | nickgrey147 | +1 |
| 19:12.02 | AakashPatel | nickgrey147: so wht you think i can do to make anyting work? |
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| 19:12.08 | macman_ | as long as i put it in my grub ZitZ right ? |
| 19:12.16 | coldboot | Really, FreeBSD needs a primary? |
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| 19:12.33 | ZitZ | last I checked it needed a primary |
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| 19:12.37 | macman_ | bust out gparted |
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| 19:13.09 | ranix | I just tried to use Awesome |
| 19:13.13 | ranix | I didn't fare too well |
| 19:13.14 | ZitZ | I'd imagine you already have windows installed, when you install debian it usually has no problem picking up windows and putting it in grub |
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| 19:13.19 | ranix | seems to require too much configuration for my blood |
| 19:14.14 | Asymmetry | ranix: Awesome? |
| 19:14.16 | at0m|c | jbjohns: sure it's not fsck'ing? on headless, I'd try these: Ctrl-D to continue from single user, Del or F1 to continue for bios error ("no keyb found";), Ctrl-C to kill a stalled process |
| 19:14.23 | ranix | Asymmetry: a window manager |
| 19:14.39 | ranix | someone was just talking about it so I tried it, I think I'll stick to xfce4 |
| 19:14.40 | Asymmetry | ranix: Anything special? |
| 19:15.12 | Haraken | where can i find the kernel config file for this kernel? linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-686 |
| 19:15.14 | ranix | Asymmetry: focus follows mouse, windows arrange themselves intuitively, minimalistic, looks cool, can single-click to open a fullscreen terminal |
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| 19:15.35 | ranix | Asymmetry: meta-f1 to open a run menu in the root toolbar |
| 19:15.36 | Asymmetry | ranix: Huh. Gonna check that out. |
| 19:15.54 | ranix | Asymmetry: let me know if you figure it out, it looks good but I don't want to spend the time to configure it |
| 19:16.17 | Asymmetry | ranix: Wilco. |
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| 19:16.43 | insolit | can someone remind me what is the modules directories? |
| 19:16.46 | insolit | *what are |
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| 19:18.24 | natsukashi | So, BIOS found my hard drive. All the partitions work in Windows and Ubuntus Live CD. Yet Debian is unable to find them? |
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| 19:18.43 | natsukashi | Maybe I should just try netboot. |
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| 19:19.02 | doxtor | insolit: you mean packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? |
| 19:19.27 | ZitZ | natsukashi: what does mount -a give you? |
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| 19:19.46 | insolit | doxtor, no kernel modules |
| 19:20.04 | AakashPatel | heh |
| 19:20.04 | natsukashi | ZitZ: I'm running windows right now so I can't check unless it's the same command in the command propmpt. :o |
| 19:20.13 | AakashPatel | goes to fedora to cross-compile stuffs |
| 19:20.22 | AakashPatel | since its all brokeded on debain ;) |
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| 19:20.25 | AakashPatel | debian* |
| 19:21.23 | ZitZ | I have no idea, but debian is finicky about automatically mounting partitions for me, I usually have to go find them |
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| 19:22.40 | natsukashi | Yeah, but that shouldn't be necessary in the installer would it? |
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| 19:23.23 | natsukashi | wait a minute. I have cygwin |
| 19:23.45 | servilio | I have a i386 system that I'd like to convert to amd64, can it be done without doing a full re-install? (having to back-up /etc, etc.) |
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| 19:25.03 | jimcooncat | servilio: I think if it's possible, it would be more work than a reinstall |
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| 19:26.11 | jimcooncat | servilio: if you have the hard disk space, make another partition to install your 64-bit operating system. Then just copy over any config files as you need them. |
| 19:26.34 | stuNNed | if i `dpkg -l foo` and it lists an installed package as 'rc' that means just the config files are installed and is there any way to get rid of it? |
| 19:26.44 | greycat | stuNNed: dpkg --purge foo |
| 19:27.06 | servilio | jimcooncat: thanks! |
| 19:27.16 | stuNNed | greycat: thanks! |
| 19:27.27 | servilio | jimcooncat: I might just do that, minimal downtime :) |
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| 19:27.37 | stuNNed | greycat: is it safe to --purge all rc's? |
| 19:27.38 | jimcooncat | servilio: sure, good luck. |
| 19:27.47 | servilio | jimcooncat: thanks! |
| 19:27.49 | greycat | stuNNed: only you can decide what configuration files should be kept or not. |
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| 19:27.55 | stuNNed | ok thanks |
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| 19:28.47 | stuNNed | brb |
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| 19:29.06 | ^destroyed | What's command to upgrade lighttpd using apt-get? |
| 19:29.25 | adama_ | apt-get install lighttpd |
| 19:30.25 | ^destroyed | k ty |
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| 19:35.49 | stuNNed | is there any way to remove gnome-games but keep gnome? apt seems to want to remove all of gnome if i do this |
| 19:36.54 | adama_ | stuNNed: /msg dpkg |
| 19:37.09 | adama_ | ask him about metapackage and unmarkauto |
| 19:37.10 | stuNNed | adama_: ok thanks |
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| 19:37.41 | ZitZ | sudo dpkg -P gnome |
| 19:37.42 | ZitZ | then |
| 19:37.46 | ZitZ | sudo dpkg -P gnome-games |
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| 19:45.10 | buntfalke | Is it enough if I only have HTTP available via lan when trying to NetInstall debian squeeze? |
| 19:45.19 | greycat | Sure. |
| 19:45.21 | buntfalke | All the Rest is VPNed here. |
| 19:45.26 | buntfalke | good. thanks greycat |
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| 19:49.45 | Code-E | Hi. I was thinking of installing debian through a netinstall disk, however it does not recognize my wireless net adapter. I do have the driver for my adapter though, on a seperate CD. Is it possible to install debian then install the driver and then further install the debian stuff? |
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| 19:51.36 | Code-E | Anyone? |
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| 19:51.51 | hark | Code-E: yes |
| 19:51.56 | stuNNed | does any package require alsaconf or i shouldn't use that? |
| 19:52.33 | Code-E | How would I go about configuring the network through the terminal? |
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| 19:53.04 | hark | Code-E: which wireless card do you have? |
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| 19:53.21 | Code-E | Linksys WUSB54GC |
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| 19:54.37 | cahoot | stuNNed: it's obsolete |
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| 19:54.55 | stuNNed | cahoot: ok thanks |
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| 19:56.54 | hark | Code-E: looks like rt73. the drivers are in debian |
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| 19:57.18 | hark | !rt73 |
| 19:57.18 | dpkg | The Ralink RT73 USB chipset (RT2501USB/RT2571W) is supported by the enhanced legacy driver (rt73) and next-generation driver (rt73usb), both available from the <rt2x00> project. Firmware is required to be loaded before driver operation. See http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73 for driver and firmware installation instructions. See also <ralink firmware>, <rt2x00>. |
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| 19:57.44 | Code-E | it is the rt73 but when I went to do a net install it did not pick my card up. only said i had an ethernet card and a firewire port |
| 19:58.15 | pzn | any small-debian available? it may be based on etch... need to install in embedded i386 with 256M flash-HD |
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| 19:59.02 | dimedo | hi, how can i add a self-signed x509 cert to be globally trusted by my system? |
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| 19:59.20 | hark | Code-E: you can do a base install with the netinstall without internet access. |
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| 20:00.05 | Code-E | Yea I know. I did that. but how would I go about configuring the wireless network afterwards and does the base install have apt preinstalled as well? |
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| 20:00.48 | greycat | The base system includes apt, yes. |
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| 20:01.38 | hark | pzn: see /msg dpkg emdebian |
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| 20:02.19 | Code-E | so how would i configure the wireless network through the terminal? |
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| 20:03.20 | justin | Code-E: are there any open wireless networks around you? |
| 20:03.32 | Code-E | the one in my basement, yes |
| 20:03.43 | justin | then it probably already associated with it |
| 20:03.46 | justin | what does iwconfig say? |
| 20:04.30 | buntfalke | Can dm-mapper/luks be used to encrypt an ordinary file, and then mount it as a loop like "mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt/foo" does? |
| 20:04.32 | Code-E | well. im asking because i want to do a netinstall, but the setup doesnt pick up the card, and i dont know how to set it up through the terminal. Im on gOS right now |
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| 20:04.34 | buntfalke | or does it only work for physical partitions? |
| 20:04.52 | Jemt | Hello again. I have just tried copying my MBR containing GRUB to a USB stick device, but it won't boot. All I get is a black screen with the text "GRUB". I copied the MBR like this: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1. Why didn't it work ? |
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| 20:05.03 | Jemt | Maybe grub isn't stored within the MBR ? |
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| 20:05.14 | {g} | Hey People! How do I change the mtime of a file to some date in the past? |
| 20:05.24 | greycat | {g}: man touch |
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| 20:05.43 | {g} | thanks! |
| 20:05.46 | ranix | greycat: stop that |
| 20:06.03 | justin | Code-E: I think the debian installer can setup wireless for you now |
| 20:06.06 | greycat | ranix: stop what? |
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| 20:06.15 | ranix | greycat: eek! Pervert |
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| 20:06.22 | Code-E | Well. It's not picking my card up during the installation. |
| 20:06.39 | greycat | ranix: lesbians are welcome to use alternative manual-reading software if they want. |
| 20:06.54 | justin | Code-E: really the easiest thing to do would be to install from the full cd, or not try to install over wireless |
| 20:07.33 | Code-E | well, would it not be possible to just do a base install, configure the wireless then install what i need from there? im just not sure how to set up the network afterhand |
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| 20:08.04 | justin | Code-E: anything is possible |
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| 20:08.09 | ranix | Code-E: that's the best way to do it. Most people use ifconfig/iwconfig |
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| 20:08.26 | justin | I think most people just use network manager these days :) |
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| 20:08.43 | Code-E | will ifconfig/iwconfig run me through setting it up through the terminal and such? |
| 20:08.46 | ranix | I don't even know what network manager is |
| 20:08.54 | justin | Code-E: no |
| 20:09.01 | ranix | Code-E: define run me through |
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| 20:09.10 | Yancho | enouf i tried the mount -o command u gave me earlier on but it is saying / is bsy |
| 20:09.11 | NobodyNumber1 | hello |
| 20:09.24 | ranix | Code-E: impale you? no |
| 20:09.34 | ranix | Code-E: help you do it, not really |
| 20:09.49 | Code-E | well, i know the network name, the passcode, the encryption, etc. |
| 20:09.50 | ranix | Code-E: I would check out some google or manpages on iwconfig |
| 20:09.54 | ranix | it's a pretty useful tool |
| 20:10.01 | ranix | you just need to look up syntax |
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| 20:11.15 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:11.28 | eptalon | why does azureus depend on openjdk? |
| 20:11.46 | greycat | are you sure it isn't "openjdk or java or ..."? |
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| 20:12.48 | eptalon | greycat: Its openjdk-6-jre. |
| 20:13.13 | justin | dpkg: depends azureus |
| 20:13.15 | eptalon | I have a (non-free) java form sun, and its anonying as hell |
| 20:13.22 | jbjohns | was a kernel panic |
| 20:13.44 | jbjohns | kernel BUG at security/selinux/avc.c:883 |
| 20:13.47 | dpkg | azureus: depends on openjdk-6-jre, libcommons-cli-java, liblog4j1.2-java, libswt-gtk-3.4-java |
| 20:13.59 | greycat | eptalon: I'd skip the Debian package, then, and just install it from upstream. |
| 20:14.16 | ranix | apt-cache depends azureus doesn't give me any indication that's an or dependency |
| 20:14.29 | eptalon | greycat: is there a general "java-6-jdk" metapackage? |
| 20:15.06 | ranix | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/azureus |
| 20:15.16 | ranix | that looks like a hard depend |
| 20:15.39 | eptalon | ranix: thats what I am saying. |
| 20:16.04 | greycat | that's why I'd skip that package. |
| 20:16.09 | eptalon | ranix: should be java6-jre, or java-runtime-environment, or whatever that metapackage is called. |
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| 20:16.31 | greycat | File a bug? |
| 20:16.56 | ranix | looks like a bug to me |
| 20:17.12 | Tramp | ranix: check http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495514 -apparently azureus is picky about its jre |
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| 20:17.30 | SiliconSavant | Why you'd even use Azureus is beyond me... |
| 20:18.11 | ranix | Tramp: thanks for that |
| 20:18.11 | Tramp | and imho, with this azureus/vuze stuff it's a weird software anyways. I dropped using it about a year ago |
| 20:18.26 | ranix | eptalon: this problem here is a valid reason to not use Azureus |
| 20:18.36 | ranix | eptalon: check Torrentflux |
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| 20:19.27 | redrebel | how do I check which version of sshd i'm running? |
| 20:19.58 | Code-E | I've been looking at this iwconfig and every page I've found refers me to a GUI-based network manager, which i do not have access to. >_<. is there a command to setup the adapter to the network through iwconfig? it uses WEP-Personal encryption |
| 20:20.23 | greycat | "/usr/sbin/sshd -V" will show what's in the file system, and "telnet localhost 22" will show what's actually running. |
| 20:21.27 | redrebel | greycat, thanx |
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| 20:25.05 | eptalon | greycat: my reportbugs are broken. |
| 20:25.30 | justin | reportbug reportbug? :) |
| 20:25.32 | eptalon | so no bugreports |
| 20:25.33 | Yancho | im trying to mount the root partition from single user as mount -o remount,ro / but it is saying / is busy .. any idea how to fix it please? |
| 20:25.43 | greycat | You can also report a bug via email. |
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| 20:26.06 | greycat | Yancho: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 20:26.09 | greycat | Yancho: fsck it? |
| 20:26.36 | Yancho | so i can copy / to an external media |
| 20:26.59 | greycat | Yancho: You should be able to copy it while it's mounted rw in single-user mode, since there should not be any daemons running, writing to it. |
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| 20:27.40 | Yancho | ok im going to test it :) thanks |
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| 20:29.25 | greycat | If you *really* need it read-only, reboot, and then at the grub prompt you can boot with "init=/bin/bash" added to the command. |
| 20:29.48 | greycat | !ifrp |
| 20:29.48 | dpkg | 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO (e.g. pre-sarge): 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 20:29.54 | infinity1 | when doing 'netstat -nt' why do some lines have "::ffff:" and others do not? |
| 20:30.39 | Yancho | never mind greycat its copying :) did cp /dev/hda1 /media/nas |
| 20:30.42 | Yancho | and its working fine :) |
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| 20:31.00 | greycat | infinity1: that's an IPv6 address |
| 20:31.34 | infinity1 | greycat: but how come some have "::ffff:" and some not? wouldn't they all be the same format? the machine isn't on ipv6 |
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| 20:31.49 | infinity1 | greycat: it just has ipv6 loopback i think |
| 20:32.14 | robokop | my keyboard is acting strange in X, in tty's it is just fine |
| 20:32.23 | Yancho | greycat but like this im getting a file as hda1 lol . which i doubt it i can actually use it |
| 20:32.32 | \amethyst | infinity1: ::ffff:192.168.1.3 is the way you write ipv4 addresses as ipv6 |
| 20:32.35 | robokop | i have some laptop keyboard |
| 20:32.36 | greycat | Some programs are written differently than others, I'd guess. |
| 20:33.07 | greycat | Yancho: Depends on what you mean by "use" |
| 20:33.14 | \amethyst | infinity1: probably those programs use AF_UNSPEC so that they work with both ipv4 and ipv6 |
| 20:33.25 | Yancho | greycat take some files off it |
| 20:33.36 | greycat | Yancho: Did you want a backup of the files, or a backup of the raw partition? |
| 20:33.45 | Yancho | backup of files |
| 20:33.53 | infinity1 | \amethyst: so its because of the program, not the netstat command? |
| 20:33.55 | greycat | Then you should be using "cp -a" or tar or something. |
| 20:34.11 | Yancho | a ok :) ill go change it then :) thanks |
| 20:34.19 | Yancho | i cant use tar - saving on fat32 |
| 20:34.33 | greycat | If it's FAT32 then you really *do* want tar, probably. |
| 20:34.40 | greycat | Because you can't make a backup of the special devices and so on. |
| 20:34.55 | Yancho | but the tarball will be > 4gb |
| 20:35.08 | greycat | So much fun. |
| 20:35.08 | robokop | is there an easyway i can change my x keyboard map |
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| 20:35.32 | \amethyst | Yancho: split your tar then |
| 20:36.00 | Yancho | but i need to save it somewhere first right? |
| 20:36.02 | greycat | Yancho: if you're willing to live without a backup of non-regular files (FIFOs, char/block devices and so on), then a "cp -a" should be OK. You'll get errors, which you can probably ignore. Just don't count on those non-regular files being there. |
| 20:36.22 | \amethyst | assuming you don't mind losing your ownership and permissions |
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| 20:36.23 | Yancho | i just want backup of .doc's .xls |
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| 20:36.42 | Yancho | and some other files im forgetting |
| 20:37.32 | Yancho | im backing just for courtesy .. my dad sweared he has no other non-backed up data |
| 20:37.42 | Yancho | i just want to back up to b on the safe side |
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| 20:37.51 | greycat | Good idea. |
| 20:38.14 | Yancho | so cp -a /dev/hda1 /media/nas/ ----sould be fine? |
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| 20:39.06 | bazik|home | i use rsync for that kind of 'backup' jobs |
| 20:39.37 | bazik|home | rsync --progress -av /dev/hda1 /media/nas/ |
| 20:39.38 | bazik|home | :) |
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| 20:39.50 | greycat | Yancho: no, cd into wherever you're starting the backup from, and use 'cp -a . /media/nas/' |
| 20:40.05 | greycat | bazik|home: not /dev/hda1 |
| 20:40.09 | bazik|home | ya |
| 20:40.14 | bazik|home | didnt read the entire conversation |
| 20:40.15 | bazik|home | sorry |
| 20:40.27 | greycat | Yancho: rsync is an option too. |
| 20:40.40 | robokop | btw is there an easy way to define your x keyboard map |
| 20:40.55 | robokop | i lost some of my arrow keys and other stuff |
| 20:40.57 | bazik|home | the advantage of rsync over cp is that you dont copy EVERYTHING on recurrent copies, for example if you setup a cron job |
| 20:41.24 | Yancho | greycat can i just back up everthing to be on the safe side? |
| 20:41.35 | Yancho | i dont want to back up only single folders |
| 20:41.45 | Yancho | thats why i taught backing the whole disk is better |
| 20:42.13 | greycat | As I said, you're going to miss the FIFOs and device node and so on, since your target file system can't hold them. |
| 20:42.36 | Yancho | no problem if the actual save files are not touched |
| 20:42.42 | greycat | If you only want a single file system (e.g. the root file system), you can use: cd /; cp -ax . /media/nas/ |
| 20:43.02 | Yancho | i just have one file system |
| 20:43.06 | Yancho | tahts / |
| 20:43.07 | greycat | The -x will prevent it from recursing into /media/nas/ assuming that's a different file system. |
| 20:43.17 | Yancho | a ok |
| 20:43.22 | Yancho | im going to run it :) tanks alot |
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| 20:45.40 | streuner_ | Is there celebration day today in US? |
| 20:46.23 | shardz_ | how do you add to your PATH? |
| 20:46.36 | streuner_ | s/celebration day/holiday/ |
| 20:46.38 | Yancho | thanks greycat running :) |
| 20:46.48 | robokop | shardz_: temporary or always |
| 20:46.52 | shardz_ | always |
| 20:46.52 | greycat | streuner_: Monday is Memorial Day |
| 20:47.01 | streuner_ | hm |
| 20:47.22 | Yancho | much appreciated :) working as i wanted it to .. very thanks |
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| 20:47.26 | Pupuser402-2 | sorry for bugging |
| 20:47.42 | Pupuser402-2 | how do i label a parition .. im trying to label /dev/sda7 as debian |
| 20:47.53 | robokop | put export PATH=some/dir/:$PATH in your .bashrc |
| 20:48.14 | Pupuser402-2 | can i use cfdsik or fdisk to label a parition ? |
| 20:48.31 | greycat | Pupuser402-2: why do you think you need to "label" it? |
| 20:48.44 | Pupuser402-2 | greycat, cause i want to ? |
| 20:49.09 | Pupuser402-2 | well |
| 20:49.18 | robokop | what partition type are they |
| 20:49.19 | \amethyst | Pupuser402-2: no, labelling is specific to the filesystem |
| 20:49.29 | shardz_ | robokop, would if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then |
| 20:49.29 | shardz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.29 | shardz_ | fi work too? |
| 20:49.45 | Pupuser402-2 | mkfs |
| 20:49.53 | robokop | shardz_: yes |
| 20:49.57 | \amethyst | Pupuser402-2: mkfs? |
| 20:50.00 | greycat | Pupuser402-2: the fdisk partition type should just be "Linux" |
| 20:50.09 | \amethyst | Pupuser402-2: ext3, reiser, XFS? |
| 20:50.10 | greycat | Pupuser402-2: and even that's just a comment. Not important. |
| 20:50.35 | robokop | for ext2/3 use tune2fs |
| 20:51.37 | Pupuser402-2 | actually etlabel worked |
| 20:51.44 | Pupuser402-2 | e2label |
| 20:51.50 | Pupuser402-2 | bbs .. installing debian |
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| 20:53.54 | Lycurgus | could someone check thier lenny configuration to see if it has /etc/init.d/functions? |
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| 20:55.39 | greycat | Lycurgus: not there. |
| 20:56.01 | code-e | The debian base install does not appear to have either ifconfig or iwconfig. is there a place where i can download them? im on a live distro now |
| 20:56.18 | Lycurgus | greycat: thx. |
| 20:56.30 | greycat | code-e: yes it does. /sbin/ifconfig at least. |
| 20:56.46 | Lycurgus | right |
| 20:56.52 | code-e | hm, well in the sbin there is no iwconfig |
| 20:56.53 | code-e | o_O |
| 20:57.21 | Lycurgus | and it's in root's path, because I didn't set i. |
| 20:57.25 | Lycurgus | *it |
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| 20:58.29 | hark | code-e: if not, install wireless-tools. it should be on the cd |
| 20:58.53 | code-e | will that work without x? |
| 20:59.02 | hark | yes |
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| 20:59.41 | code-e | so what do i do apt-get install wireless-tools ? |
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| 21:00.03 | Baconizer | ponders the benefits of Fedora vs Debian |
| 21:00.32 | Baconizer | Which one should I use? |
| 21:00.44 | cahoot | the cheaper |
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| 21:01.08 | bazik|home | the one with more colors in the logo |
| 21:01.23 | code-e | ? |
| 21:01.50 | bazik|home | or just the one where people in the belonging irc channel give the most sensefull advices! :-D |
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| 21:04.19 | Baconizer | I'm going with Debian, thanks :D |
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| 21:04.50 | bazik|home | cahoot: was t hat me or you how convinced him? |
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| 21:14.24 | nano- | I'm having problem with debhelper (I think). On Debian Sid i get a directory structure like this: /usr/share/pyshared/foo/provider/plugins/webservice/ but on Debian Lenny I get: /usr/share/python-support/foo-plugin-webservice/foo/provider/plugins/webservice/ ... what must I do in Debian Lenny to get paths like the one in Debian Sid? |
| 21:14.57 | nano- | my rules file is just %:\n\tdh $@ |
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| 21:16.12 | wOPr | hey :) i need to compile few libraries for mp3 encoding. I red that i should compile them as a shared object... what does it mean? Anyone can help me please? |
| 21:17.14 | poisonbit | when will terminate Etch security support ? |
| 21:18.14 | petemc | wOPr: you can get lame from debian-multimedia |
| 21:18.59 | wOPr | petemc, does i need to add debian-multimedia at the end of debian repository, righ? |
| 21:19.00 | petemc | poisonbit: /msg dpkg etch |
| 21:19.11 | petemc | wOPr: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 21:20.00 | poisonbit | thanks petemc |
| 21:20.08 | petemc | np |
| 21:20.59 | poisonbit | I only hope that my boss didn't read that... 2010... is so long |
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| 21:24.36 | mischief | has anyone built fglrx under 2.6.29, or used compiz with 2.6.29? |
| 21:24.51 | dmoerner | mischief, i'm using it now |
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| 21:25.21 | mischief | dmoerner, fglrx under 2.6.29? |
| 21:25.26 | mischief | or compiz |
| 21:25.52 | dmoerner | fglrx under 2.6.29, i'm not using compiz at the moment but it works fine |
| 21:26.57 | mischief | dmoerner, i am unable to build it with module-assistant |
| 21:27.13 | dmoerner | mischief, please pastebin the error, run m-a a-i --text fglrx |
| 21:27.21 | mischief | alright, moment |
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| 21:29.07 | crunchy1 | hi, can anyone tell me where I put rewrite_header in an exim spam assassin config? |
| 21:29.18 | crunchy1 | I want to rewrite the subject |
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| 21:29.34 | mischief | dmoerner, http://paste.debian.net/36730/ |
| 21:30.37 | dmoerner | mischief, is this 9-5-1 or 9-4-2 |
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| 21:30.49 | dmoerner | 9-4-2 works but it wouldn't surprise me if 9-5-1 was broken, i haven't dist-upgraded in a few days |
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| 21:30.57 | mischief | uh, what dmoerner? |
| 21:31.09 | dmoerner | what version of fglrx-kernel-src are you trying to build against |
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| 21:33.09 | mischief | oh, dmoerner i don't even have fglrx-kernel-src installed :\ |
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| 21:33.23 | mischief | dmoerner, i guess it isn't a dependency of the fglrx package :\ |
| 21:33.28 | dmoerner | fglrx-source is what i meant |
| 21:33.51 | mischief | eh, aptitude says Version: 1:9-2-2 |
| 21:33.57 | robokop | my down key isn't working in X, as is my <end> key |
| 21:33.59 | dmoerner | that's way out of date |
| 21:34.15 | mischief | uh, which repo is it in? non-free? |
| 21:34.33 | dmoerner | how did you get that kernel in testing? |
| 21:34.46 | mischief | i added it from sid main |
| 21:34.57 | dmoerner | you will need to grab the newer fglrx as well |
| 21:35.08 | mischief | alright, let me add the sid non-free repo |
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| 21:36.33 | \amethyst | mischief: btw, you have at least R6xx, right? |
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| 21:37.30 | mischief | \amethyst, what? |
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| 21:37.44 | \amethyst | mischief: graphics chip |
| 21:38.00 | mischief | \amethyst, i've got a ATI HD 3850 |
| 21:38.08 | mischief | i've used fglrx with it before, just forgot how |
| 21:38.14 | \amethyst | mischief: ok, that should be good |
| 21:38.28 | \amethyst | mischief: they recently dropped support for older chips, but yours is new enough |
| 21:39.18 | mischief | that's convenient :D |
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| 21:40.15 | mischief | okay, dmoerner now i have 9-5-1 |
| 21:40.24 | dmoerner | mischief, it builds fine, i just tested it |
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| 21:41.30 | robokop | can nobody help me with my keyboard? |
| 21:42.09 | Supaplex | !eat robokop's keyboard |
| 21:42.09 | dpkg | eats robokop's keyboard, *CHOMP* *CHOMP* *CHOMP* |
| 21:42.25 | robokop | thanks |
| 21:42.34 | agaran | save the keys, save the keys.. |
| 21:43.59 | mischief | ughghh |
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| 21:44.14 | mischief | i keep getting loads of dependency problems dmoerner :\ |
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| 21:45.01 | dmoerner | mischief, there was no guarantee that enabling sid would solve that problem, it might want to pull in the new xserver. |
| 21:45.11 | Supaplex | mischief: they have rehab for that. |
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| 21:46.13 | CartoonCat | I am trying to mount my windows drive (sata) on my debian box. It is telling me that the drive is inconsistant or there are hardware issue or possibly soft/fake raid. The first two or possible. Is there anyway to for a mount or otherwise access the data? boting windows and chkdsk is not a option |
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| 21:47.50 | mischief | dmoerner, i think it worked |
| 21:47.54 | robokop | irt to itewsh logof message, and what about those who now trinary |
| 21:48.01 | mischief | dmoerner, how can i tell if it worked or not? :o |
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| 21:48.24 | mordy_ | CartoonCat: the filesystem will be marked as dirty if there is a hiberfile.sys there |
| 21:48.30 | mordy_ | or some other kind of hibernation data |
| 21:49.00 | dmoerner | mischief, if X work,s it should be working |
| 21:49.06 | mordy_ | there is some command to remove it whose name escapes me right now |
| 21:49.20 | mischief | dmoerner, i have not restarted X since i m-a a-i fglrx |
| 21:49.22 | mischief | let me try.. |
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| 21:49.59 | mordy_ | there's also ntfsfix |
| 21:50.27 | mordy_ | or dosfsck for vfat |
| 21:50.56 | CartoonCat | mordy_| hope i have them, that box doesnt have net access |
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| 21:51.21 | CartoonCat | crapola, not on that box |
| 21:51.52 | mordy_ | what about ntfs-3g? |
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| 21:52.11 | mordy_ | tried to mount -f? |
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| 21:52.19 | CartoonCat | nope, i will |
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| 21:52.52 | CartoonCat | -f unknown option |
| 21:52.53 | mordy_ | this is all assuming that your disk is not indeed fscked |
| 21:52.57 | mordy_ | is this busybox? |
| 21:53.10 | seniorake | my whole desktop is messed up since today. i do now know exaclty why, but it appears as if the installed ms ttcorefonts are not being recognized and/or displayed any more |
| 21:53.16 | CartoonCat | mordy_| no its a older debian install, havent used it for 2 months |
| 21:53.26 | hochron | what if I only have one dvd rw, will the first iso be sufficient? |
| 21:53.27 | mordy_ | hmm.. no -f |
| 21:53.32 | seniorake | e.g. kcontrol has them listed, say, for example the desktop-icons. but when i use e.g. arial 8 there, it still shows sans-serif or something |
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| 21:53.50 | CartoonCat | lets assume the drive is in fack, fscked. what then |
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| 21:54.49 | mordy_ | hmmmm thr mount manpage says that -f is 'fake' |
| 21:54.51 | mordy_ | bleh |
| 21:54.55 | seniorake | any ideas what could have caused this? i really need all the fonts for web development - but they are just not being displayed |
| 21:54.59 | seniorake | any hints are appreciated |
| 21:55.06 | acton | I've got a quick question; I did apt-get install linux-image-686, I'm trying to get the kernel headers for those. apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) doesn't work |
| 21:55.06 | mordy_ | well if the drive is messed up then it's possible it's indeed irreparable |
| 21:55.14 | acton | Any way to get the correct linux headers? |
| 21:55.15 | mischief | dmoerner, x works :D |
| 21:55.20 | mischief | however, compiz does not -.- |
| 21:55.46 | hochron | will one installation dvd suffice, or do I have to do a cd-netinstall? |
| 21:55.54 | mordy_ | acton: the package name is linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 21:55.56 | valdyn | acton: linux-headers-... |
| 21:56.31 | seniorake | seems that a fonts search path is not working |
| 21:56.41 | seniorake | i can only see a pool of maybe... 5 fonts or so |
| 21:56.59 | mordy_ | can somoene help me with alsa? i can''t seem to get it working with my card |
| 21:57.11 | acton | werd,t hanks |
| 21:57.13 | mordy_ | trying to compile alsa-source via module assistant (and manually) throws a bunch of errors |
| 21:57.25 | mordy_ | errors seem to be build-related and not missing dependencies |
| 21:57.32 | seniorake | in every application, no matter what, only except of opera. this seems to be the only one which shows the fonts as it should |
| 21:57.42 | mordy_ | seniorake: opera uses Qt |
| 21:57.49 | seniorake | so does amarok |
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| 21:58.01 | seniorake | but it does not show the original fonts |
| 21:58.19 | mordy_ | forgot he has his own fonts issue but needs this sound card working |
| 21:58.20 | mordy_ | grrrr |
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| 22:02.28 | seniorake | damn, juust what could be wrong? i even just added fontpath "myhomedir/.fonts", where all such fonts are in there, purged + reinstalled msttcorefonts, still no effect. every application shows these fonts in its dropdown menu, but none is able to display it. my whole desktop is messed up, i cant work any more |
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| 22:08.38 | seniorake | even when i'm switching the standard font within firefox (when no font is provided, e.g. using css) and when i set up times new roman, it is NOT times new roman |
| 22:09.52 | seniorake | it is some free serif font, but not times new roman, but i *can* select it, even the font size, but it displays some other font |
| 22:09.52 | CartoonCat | seniorake| permissions maybe? |
| 22:09.52 | seniorake | i don't know, which ones? |
| 22:09.52 | CartoonCat | or totaly corrupted fonts, but no idea how that might happen |
| 22:09.52 | \amethyst | seniorake: perhaps you have ttf-liberation installed ? |
| 22:09.52 | \amethyst | seniorake: is it narrow like Times ? |
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| 22:10.45 | seniorake | i just started firefox as root, nothing changed |
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| 22:11.04 | seniorake | well, it is like msttcorefonts were not installed, i recoginze this on almost every page |
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| 22:11.25 | seniorake | i know how several pages look without msttcorefonts - they appear exactly as those were not installed |
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| 22:11.48 | seniorake | but they are, the applications show them as available, they are in /usr/share/fonts/ as well as in ~./.fonts |
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| 22:13.04 | seniorake | entire KDE also seems unable to use them. the kmenu, kopete...everything switched to alternative fonts |
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| 22:13.48 | maximi89 | hi |
| 22:13.50 | Devilholk | Hi, could anyone help my configure nginx? I have googled alot and still can't get it right |
| 22:13.54 | Devilholk | me* |
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| 22:19.23 | seniorake | i'm gonna lose it |
| 22:19.33 | Devilholk | hmm.. pastebinit doesn't seem to work. Get unknown post ID >.< |
| 22:19.35 | seniorake | i have work to do but i cant do anything when it is not being displayed properly |
| 22:20.51 | Devilholk | How can there be 909 idlers? |
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| 22:21.12 | hochron | will one installation dvd suffice, or do I have to do a cd-netinstall? |
| 22:21.31 | robokop | hochron: depends on what you want? |
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| 22:21.39 | seniorake | *any* ideas at all what i could do? i really need this |
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| 22:21.51 | Devilholk | seniorake: I got here after your question |
| 22:22.00 | hochron | robokop: iceweasel and x |
| 22:22.47 | robokop | dvd will sufice, but i usually prefer netinst because i then only dl what i need |
| 22:23.07 | hochron | robokop: cant I just install packages after its up? |
| 22:23.14 | robokop | yes |
| 22:23.31 | robokop | netinst cd gives you just enough for a base systems |
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| 22:23.51 | hochron | robokop: I just got a dvd-burner and am trying to get a backup system |
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| 22:24.08 | Superbartt | Maybe a dumb question... But i noticed "hamster-applet" was installed during an aptitude upgrade (running squeeze) but I can't seem to add the applet to my gnome :x |
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| 22:24.51 | Devilholk | Could anyone please help me with nginx? It's driving me insane >.< |
| 22:25.05 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 22:25.13 | rindolf | How can I install all of KDE (4?) in Squeeze? |
| 22:25.34 | robokop | Devilholk: don't know that nginx |
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| 22:27.43 | robokop | some keys of my keyboard are not working in X, but do work in TTYs |
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| 22:31.54 | servilio | trying to bootstrap an amd64 install of lenny with multistrap end with a "Couldn't find package ..." from apt (http://paste.debian.net/36737/) |
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| 22:32.14 | servilio | can anyone give a hint on the why this is happening? |
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| 22:32.37 | Lycurgus | prolly not in that repo |
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| 22:33.38 | mischief | how can i change my default audio device? |
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| 22:35.28 | servilio | answer to self: created a sources.list :-/ |
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| 22:36.13 | zu22 | squeeze now refers to the testing release yes? |
| 22:36.22 | zu22 | and lenny refers to stable release yes? |
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| 22:37.12 | zu22 | hello? |
| 22:37.17 | zu22 | can someone please confirm that |
| 22:37.18 | robokop | zu22: yes |
| 22:37.25 | zu22 | robokop: thanks |
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| 22:41.18 | goose | having trouble running a .bin file.. http://goose.pastebin.com/m368b7f5c |
| 22:42.18 | jk | goose: try 'file ./hldsupdatetool.bin' to check what kind of file it is |
| 22:42.49 | goose | ./hldsupdatetool.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 22:43.34 | felix_ | hi. can anyone explain me how gpg keys work? i'm trying to make a distro with gNS builder. i think i have to create a gpg key (but dunno if as user or root) and import it (i think both, but i don't know the command; i import it using software origins). |
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| 22:47.32 | Frippera | Trying to set up sftp, but getting error on connection: "error subsystem request failed on channel 0" |
| 22:47.39 | Frippera | my conf: http://pastebin.com/d3f538fdd |
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| 22:47.54 | wOPr | anyone can tell me please the meaning of that error? http://pastie.org/485913 |
| 22:48.03 | Frippera | have found this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openssh/bugs/38718 |
| 22:48.15 | Frippera | when connecting with my normal user it works fine |
| 22:48.29 | goose | jk, and idea what that means? :/ |
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| 22:52.30 | ryanCH | while i was compiling qtcurve, cmake said it needs "gtk2.0 include files" what package can i get that from? |
| 22:52.40 | jk | goose: strange... |
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| 22:53.04 | agaran | ryanCH: probably libgtk2-dev or something similar |
| 22:53.37 | jk | goose: what does ls -la ./hldsupdatetool.bin return? |
| 22:53.45 | goose | jk, that's what everybody I've asked about the error has said. one sec, let me try that command |
| 22:53.58 | goose | -rwxr-xr-x 1 srcds srcds 3513408 2005-09-02 02:27 ./hldsupdatetool.bin |
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| 22:54.07 | goose | sorry for pasting in here, I can go back to pastebin if you like |
| 22:54.20 | agaran | halflive dedicated server update tool? |
| 22:54.43 | goose | yes, I want to fire up my dedicated server again |
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| 22:54.59 | goose | I used to run it off my DSL home ISP with my winbox, I've since decided to stop being a tool |
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| 22:55.38 | goose | you're all welcome to come play CS on it if I can get it to work! :p |
| 22:55.38 | agaran | goose: you are trying that on PC? |
| 22:56.08 | goose | agaran, no, this is a real server, gigabit connection, UPS supply, in some building in Chicago. friend of a friend hooked me up >.> |
| 22:56.11 | agaran | goose: binary is for PC, if you have for example ppc (MAC) it wont work.. |
| 22:56.38 | agaran | PC as architecture, not exactly matter if its laptop with celeron or huge quad something with zilion gigabytes mem server hardware |
| 22:57.01 | goose | I know I'll have to reconfigure the server from scratch |
| 22:57.12 | goose | but Steam offers the dedicated server for linux |
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| 22:57.45 | goose | http://www.srcds.com/db/engine.php?subaction=showfull&id=1098643920 |
| 22:57.54 | agaran | but, could you try uname -a or something on target machine, it will reveal kernel version etc.. |
| 22:58.22 | goose | Linux goose 2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 19 06:15:09 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:58.50 | agaran | looks fine |
| 22:59.09 | Tramp | no. you're running a 32bit binary on a 64bit system without compatibility-libraries |
| 22:59.09 | goose | I wonder if it has something to do with the x64 vs i396 architecture? |
| 22:59.36 | goose | ah.. do I just need to install a package named "compatibility-libraries"? |
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| 23:00.40 | agaran | goose: might be |
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| 23:01.00 | felix_ | problem with reprepro: http://pastebin.com/m14ae202f |
| 23:01.03 | eck | hi |
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| 23:01.28 | Tramp | goose: not sure, which packages you need. giyf. |
| 23:01.40 | agaran | Tramp: giyf? |
| 23:01.42 | goose | agaran, is there any way around this that you know of? apparently package "compatibility-libraries" doesn't exist :p |
| 23:01.46 | goose | google it..yf? |
| 23:01.49 | Decepticon | how can i do backups to another machine if destination machine cannot be portforwarded? is there another way? |
| 23:01.56 | agaran | i didnt knew that |
| 23:02.17 | agaran | goose: hmm, what was that error when you try to run it? |
| 23:02.32 | goose | agaran, http://goose.pastebin.com/m368b7f5c |
| 23:02.39 | Tramp | !tell agaran -about giyf |
| 23:02.46 | eck | I have made a little helper-script to change my TV-channels from commandline or over ssh: http://paste.debian.net/36739/ may someone help me to get this working with cursor-keys over channel and press enter instead of typing in the channel numbers? |
| 23:03.01 | agaran | Tramp: thank you |
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| 23:03.31 | agaran | goose: what ldd <yourfile.bin> says ? |
| 23:03.48 | Yamakiri{s} | Could anyone explain to me what the significance of getting a message from my kernel that says "Disabling IRQ #23?" please? I know that it's got something to deal with my USB drive, but it makes me kind of worried |
| 23:03.53 | goose | agaran, "not a dynamic executable" |
| 23:04.19 | agaran | goose: hmm, readelf -a <file.bin> |grep NEED gives empty output too? |
| 23:04.55 | goose | agaran, 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6] |
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| 23:06.15 | Frippera | anyone? (00:47) |
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| 23:07.05 | agaran | goose: you have lenny? |
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| 23:07.23 | goose | agaran, I'm assuming it's a package? never heard of it. I can install it, though |
| 23:07.35 | agaran | goose: its debian version ;) |
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| 23:07.58 | goose | oh. lol. I use Ubuntu on my PC/Lappy, server is Debian, no idea what kind |
| 23:08.16 | agaran | goose: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 23:08.38 | goose | 5.0.1 |
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| 23:10.02 | jmd | What's the simplest way to find out the uid, gid, gecos etc of a user ? |
| 23:10.25 | Frippera | jmd: id ? |
| 23:10.35 | Tramp | goose: google "ia32-libs" - not sure if that solves your problem, if you have to setup a chroot-environment or other such. It doens't sound trivial. |
| 23:10.41 | jmd | Frippera, Thanks. |
| 23:10.42 | agaran | jmd: id username or grep user /etc/passwd |
| 23:10.50 | goose | thank you Tramp |
| 23:10.52 | Frippera | jmd, np |
| 23:10.54 | goose | I'll try that |
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| 23:11.02 | jmd | agaran, The latter won't work (reliably) |
| 23:11.03 | agaran | goose: you may try if working directory isnt mounted on noexec partition |
| 23:11.20 | agaran | jmd: yes, it assumes it is local user, no krb, nis, ldap |
| 23:11.20 | Tramp | agaran: his problem is already identified long since |
| 23:11.27 | goose | agaran, sounds like a great idea. except I have no idea how to do that. it just sounds like it will work. :D |
| 23:11.32 | jmd | agaran, exactly. |
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| 23:11.49 | Tramp | agaran: look up. his problem is running some non-supported 32bit application on a 64 bit system |
| 23:12.12 | agaran | Tramp: ok |
| 23:12.40 | goose | Tramp, that fixed it |
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| 23:13.09 | goose | Tramp, thanks a million, that package/library was all I needed :D |
| 23:13.11 | zamba | anyone familiar with slap and can tell me why it generates so incredible much noise in my syslog? |
| 23:13.43 | goose | oh, one more question. how can I add a user to the "sudoers" file? |
| 23:14.03 | agaran | goose: man visudo |
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| 23:14.16 | goose | thank you sir |
| 23:14.23 | goose | is that run from /root/ ? |
| 23:14.30 | zamba | just issue the command |
| 23:14.34 | zamba | AS root |
| 23:14.35 | zamba | not from |
| 23:14.38 | goose | yes :p |
| 23:14.46 | goose | I know not to try THAT |
| 23:14.51 | goose | oh yes, man = help |
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| 23:15.23 | nkuttler | any recommendations for bluetooth computer->mobile phone address & calendar syncing? i've been looking for hours and found nothing i like.. |
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| 23:21.32 | mischief | hey can anyone help me with compiz? this is what happens when i try to run it.. http://paste.debian.net/36741/ |
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| 23:21.55 | Frippera | has anyone set up a sftp in lenny? |
| 23:22.02 | frankS2 | mischief: try #compiz-fusion |
| 23:22.19 | frankS2 | Frippera: its nothing to set up it works out of the box |
| 23:23.55 | Frippera | frankS2: maybe it depends on what you start with, I isntalled the base netinst |
| 23:24.07 | frankS2 | Frippera: once you have ssh in you got sftp |
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| 23:24.42 | Frippera | frankS2: okey, but I dont get it to work with an newly added user |
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| 23:26.08 | Frippera | frankS2: to be more clear on what I'm trying to do....I want to chroot the sftp |
| 23:26.17 | neuralbang | hello, how would i run a program as a particular user? |
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| 23:27.11 | frankS2 | Frippera: thats some work., try google. noone here is going to guide you through that process |
| 23:27.34 | frankS2 | neuralbang: man su(do) |
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| 23:27.56 | Frippera | frankS2: alrdy done that, http://pastebin.com/m283d508d |
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| 23:28.51 | Frippera | frankS2: getting "subsystem request failed on channel 0 |
| 23:28.51 | Frippera | Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer" |
| 23:29.14 | frankS2 | and on the server side? |
| 23:29.21 | Frippera | frankS2: been following: http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny |
| 23:30.32 | neuralbang | thanks :), but from a script also? |
| 23:30.34 | Frippera | frankS2: what do you mean, all that you got in the pastebin is on the server side |
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| 23:31.49 | abrotman | neuralbang: sure .. it'll work from a script also |
| 23:32.00 | neuralbang | c, thanks |
| 23:32.01 | abrotman | neuralbang: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 23:32.46 | neuralbang | i am trying to get ircd-hybrid running |
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| 23:35.52 | acton | I'm trying to set it up so that I can hear more than one sound at once with different applications. I'm using mplayer currently, is there a way I can set it so mplayer's volume won't affect everything else? |
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| 23:36.54 | acton | right now when I use 9 or 0 to raise and lower the volume, the volume of everything else changes, too |
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| 23:43.51 | acton | right now when I use 9 or 0 to raise and lower the volume, the volume of everything else changes, too |
| 23:43.57 | acton | I'm trying to set it up so that I can hear more than one sound at once with different applications. I'm using mplayer currently, is there a way I can set it so mplayer's volume won't affect everything else? |
| 23:44.13 | abrotman | didn't you jsut say that ? |
| 23:44.24 | robokop | acton: get pulseaudio |
| 23:44.37 | acton | how is "getting pulse audio" going to help me? |
| 23:44.59 | abrotman | acton: it probably depends which 'volume' that 9/0 is changing .. it might just be changing the main volume |
| 23:45.23 | acton | Is there a way to give it a fake audio device so it will only affect it's own volume? |
| 23:45.28 | acton | or... something? |
| 23:45.49 | robokop | pulseaudio is really what you want |
| 23:45.55 | robokop | it can do that |
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| 23:46.12 | robokop | it can set volume for each application |
| 23:46.19 | acton | um. telling me to "get pulse audio" doesn't tell me much. |
| 23:46.26 | acton | is there a way to do it with alsa? |
| 23:46.35 | robokop | not that i know of |
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| 23:47.14 | acton | I can't switch to pulseaudio... my apps use alsa currently |
| 23:47.42 | Decepticon | i have /home/decepticon/bigdir/dir1/ /home/decepticon/bigdir/dir2/ /home/decepticon/bigdir/dir3/ all with big contents inside, i want to retain the dir structure of dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ in the tar but not have the contents in the tar. so do i have to --exclude/home/decepticon/bigdir/dir1/* --exclude=/home/decepticon/bigdir/dir2/* --exclude=/home/decepticon/bigdir/dir3/* and so on for each or is there a better way? |
| 23:47.53 | Decepticon | or is there a better way |
| 23:47.58 | abrotman | acton: i don't believe that alsa has a notion of independent volume |
| 23:48.09 | robokop | acton: pulseaudio can fake being alsa |
| 23:48.28 | acton | maybe I'll try it. any pointers on how to do it once I've gotten pulseaudio? |
| 23:48.41 | Shinu | Hey -- how can i tar all files matching *.ini *.txt *.conf in a directory? |
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| 23:49.41 | robokop | acton install it and then in pavucontrol you can set volume levels for all programs currently using the sound subsystem |
| 23:50.04 | acton | ok. |
| 23:50.10 | acton | pavucontrol is commnad line, right? |
| 23:50.37 | robokop | it is a graphical application, but pavucontrol is the command to run it |
| 23:51.01 | acton | um... is there a console version?... |
| 23:51.11 | robokop | i don't know where you can find it in gnome/kde |
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| 23:51.17 | robokop | uhm not that i know of |
| 23:51.26 | acton | looks like pulseaudio is out |
| 23:51.40 | nkuttler | Shinu: um, man tar |
| 23:51.48 | Shinu | mk |
| 23:52.03 | nkuttler | Shinu: tar cvjf outfile *foo *bar |
| 23:52.10 | Shinu | thanks |
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| 23:55.44 | skypce | hi friends, can you givme a name of a desktop for x as gnome but for slow machines |
| 23:56.01 | skypce | i install xfce , but my machine run slow |
| 23:56.04 | robokop | skypce: xfce |
| 23:56.29 | robokop | fluxbox |
| 23:56.48 | skypce | mm thank i will probe ti |
| 23:56.50 | skypce | it |
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