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| 00:01.53 | Supertanker | Is there any overwhelmingly compelling reason that I shouldn't disable Famd? All it's done is piss me off. Debian is the first OS I've ever had it on, and I don't know much about it. |
| 00:02.19 | Supertanker | What precisely is its purpose, and why does it use 100% CPU when I try to open a file like ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to copy it somewhere? |
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| 00:04.31 | quitte | Supertanker: you don't need it. it monitors files so that the for example nautilus can instantly update file views |
| 00:04.44 | Supertanker | Thanks |
| 00:04.58 | Supertanker | I was just looking in aptitude, and aparently bcfg2server and filechanged need it. |
| 00:05.06 | Supertanker | Do I need *those*? |
| 00:06.00 | quitte | Supertanker: no. unless thy are depended upon by something you actually want. |
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| 00:06.13 | Supertanker | Okay, thanks: out it goes. |
| 00:06.21 | bookmark | does anyone know how this becomes initilized? df -h: tmpfs 982M 0 982M 0% /lib/init/rw ??? |
| 00:06.42 | SQlvpapir | bookmark: fstab? |
| 00:06.44 | quitte | bookmark: isn't it in fstab? |
| 00:06.55 | bookmark | i don't see it |
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| 00:08.18 | quitte | oh lib/init. I think that's what'S left of the initramfs after booting |
| 00:08.40 | bookmark | well it seems that it still has 982M of my ram allocated |
| 00:09.12 | kanon-mat | fam isnt needed? what about gamin? |
| 00:09.16 | SQlvpapir | iirc tmpfs only grows when needed |
| 00:09.20 | quitte | bookmark: that doesn't matter. shmfs frees all the ram it uses unless there's actual content |
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| 00:09.28 | bookmark | yeha but don't want it around |
| 00:10.12 | bookmark | thanks in advance |
| 00:10.13 | quitte | bookmark: build your own kernel or change the initramfs then, i guess |
| 00:10.21 | bookmark | ah cool |
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| 00:12.59 | quitte | kanon-mat: debian packages have dependencies and recommendations. nothing is strictly needed except the essential packages |
| 00:13.37 | quitte | kanon-mat: you will be warned before horribly breaking your system be deinstalling packages |
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| 00:15.37 | kanon-mat | ok |
| 00:18.02 | bookmark | is there some way to specify files to the end of your file system? |
| 00:18.09 | bookmark | oh nevermind |
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| 00:32.11 | blackbeard2000 | by testing with x11vnc i got an idea.... how would it be, if debian offers x11vnc (which exports the local framebuffer) in the network-installation? this way one could do a graphical network-installation :) |
| 00:32.28 | kristian_ | hi, anybody care to help me get vlc to play on my extended desktop? |
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| 00:33.33 | quitte | blackbeard2000: the graphical installer uses fbdev, not x |
| 00:33.56 | blackbeard2000 | yes. x11vnc can export fbdev |
| 00:34.07 | blackbeard2000 | it can export /dev/video :) |
| 00:34.30 | quitte | /dev/fb? /dev/video is a v4l device |
| 00:34.47 | blackbeard2000 | yes it can dev/fb?, too |
| 00:35.04 | blackbeard2000 | http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-video Q-117: Can x11vnc be used during a Linux, Solaris, etc. system Installation so the Installation can be done remotely? |
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| 00:36.06 | quitte | blackbeard2000: go ahead and write a patch that creates udebs from the x11vnc source and its dependencies |
| 00:36.15 | blackbeard2000 | to be more prciese: here:Q-113: Can I connect via VNC to a Qt-embedded/Qtopia application running on my handheld or PC using the Linux console framebuffer (i.e. not X11)? |
| 00:36.35 | blackbeard2000 | i cant :( |
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| 00:53.56 | bookmark | alien -d maya2008_0-20080-116i686.rpm |
| 00:54.20 | bookmark | Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package Maya2008_0: postinst postrm prerm |
| 00:54.20 | bookmark | does anyone know what this means? |
| 00:55.22 | skrite | bookmark: know what what means? ( sorry, just got here ) |
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| 00:55.42 | bookmark | that warning |
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| 00:56.00 | bookmark | ah nevermind its just a warning |
| 00:56.06 | bookmark | i think i stopped it mid conversion |
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| 00:58.57 | abrotman | or just use blender |
| 00:59.10 | bookmark | hmmm |
| 00:59.13 | bookmark | i could just use blender |
| 00:59.16 | kanon-mat | some scripts wont work? |
| 00:59.16 | bookmark | hahaha |
| 00:59.26 | bookmark | well now its saying i'm out of space on device |
| 00:59.34 | bookmark | and ih ave like 1.4 gigs |
| 00:59.49 | bookmark | to convert a 190M rpm to deb |
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| 01:01.42 | neocon | anyone know where the apache config file is ? |
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| 01:01.50 | bookmark | oooo! and i have 500 fps |
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| 01:02.02 | Morpho | please help me just by visiting this page, its no virus or anything, i just want to push the article's counter, thx in advance: http://cgi.ebay.de/Gem%E4lde-von-Karl-Friedrich-Brust-aus-der-Zen-49-Zeit_W0QQitemZ180354895379QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090509?IMSfp=TL090509123004r16513 |
| 01:02.03 | neocon | im in /etc/apache2; and grep DirectoryIndex * returns nothing |
| 01:02.03 | bookmark | 644 |
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| 01:03.00 | \amethyst | neocon: it's probably from mods-enabled/dir.conf |
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| 01:03.35 | \amethyst | neocon: all the things in mods-enabled and sites-enabled are included by apache2.conf |
| 01:03.45 | \amethyst | neocon: also ports.conf |
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| 01:06.37 | neocon | well i appended DirectoryIndex index.php to apache2.conf, restarted the server, and it didnt' work |
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| 01:07.55 | neocon | what is mod_dir ? |
| 01:09.00 | neocon | why can't debian just keep this stuff in apache2.conf ? |
| 01:09.28 | NiLoni | what stuff? |
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| 01:10.12 | neocon | DirectoryIndex |
| 01:10.14 | abrotman | neocon: what's so hard about it ? |
| 01:10.16 | neocon | whats the deal with mod_dir |
| 01:10.21 | neocon | well why not keep stuff simple. |
| 01:10.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | it is simple. |
| 01:10.39 | abrotman | neocon: how hard is `a2enmod foo` ? |
| 01:10.40 | neocon | a single config file is simpler. not other distro does that. |
| 01:10.45 | abrotman | no it's not |
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| 01:10.59 | abrotman | and i guarantee you other distros do it |
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| 01:11.31 | NiLoni | neocon if you like, you can make just one config file |
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| 01:16.10 | neocon | how? |
| 01:16.13 | neocon | NiLoni: how ? |
| 01:16.28 | abrotman | neocon: just use a2enmod ... it's way easier |
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| 01:16.54 | neocon | thanx |
| 01:18.06 | neocon | it's not in the repos. |
| 01:18.27 | abrotman | it's part of the apache packages you've already got installed .. it's a command |
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| 01:19.03 | bookmark | bbl thanks for all of the help |
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| 01:56.31 | blackbeard2000 | weeeeee.. i like x11vnc and consorts... and win2vnc gets really usefull... controlling 3 screens on 3 different pcs now with one mouse/keyboard :) |
| 01:57.52 | skrite | blackbeard2000: i use synergy to do something like that. |
| 01:57.56 | skrite | pretty cool |
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| 02:00.53 | blackbeard2000 | its especially usefull use a wireless mouse to controll a pc which doesnt have usb at all :) |
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| 02:01.57 | nsadmin | grumble... wireless kbd and mouse... bah... batteries... gotta charge... BAH! |
| 02:02.33 | blackbeard2000 | *g* yes... |
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| 02:03.34 | blackbeard2000 | but it has some good sides now. this old pc without usb just has a serial-mouse with 2 buttons/no mousewheel... now i have wheel from the other pc :) |
| 02:03.49 | k-man | i want to install a version of a package from testing, i do aptitude -t testing packagename but it doesn't install it |
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| 02:04.03 | k-man | oops, i mean aptitude -t testing install packagename |
| 02:04.16 | blackbeard2000 | spock would say: "fascinating" ^^ |
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| 02:08.33 | abrotman | !tell k-man about ssb |
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| 02:09.29 | esonediw | why debian is hard to get fonts and sound working |
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| 02:14.15 | abrotman | esonediw: you'll have to be more specific .. |
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| 02:18.04 | nsadmin | esonediw: what is the specific problem you're having? what have you tried to do so far? what were the results? |
| 02:18.57 | esonediw | fonts r ugly |
| 02:19.06 | esonediw | also sound dosent work i install like 4 times |
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| 02:19.58 | nsadmin | linux pretty much requires you to know your hardware, at least which chipset you yave |
| 02:20.08 | abrotman | esonediw: are you in the audio group ? |
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| 02:20.32 | nsadmin | btw, "doesn't work" doesn't say anything... you wouldn't be complaining if it worked |
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| 02:20.44 | Akuw | i have a server with samba activated |
| 02:20.57 | Akuw | i have this on the log of one computer |
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| 02:20.58 | Akuw | [2008/11/18 10:44:26, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_connect(68) |
| 02:20.58 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.04 | esonediw | ? |
| 02:21.07 | rubenset | hi camrades |
| 02:21.32 | nsadmin | esonediw: now you know how we feel... |
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| 02:22.06 | rubenset | zarko stupid |
| 02:22.07 | rubenset | xD |
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| 02:24.36 | bododo | hi again! :) |
| 02:24.46 | rubenset | :P |
| 02:25.11 | bododo | two hours ago, I said here that I was about to ditch ubuntu 9.04 for lenny and was affraid to have troubles |
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| 02:25.16 | Akuw | Akuw made a question |
| 02:25.22 | bododo | now I'm on irssi with wifi on Lenny :) |
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| 02:25.49 | bododo | still some tweaking to make but I'm happy! yay! :) |
| 02:25.51 | rubenset | and 9.10? XD |
| 02:26.29 | bododo | rubenset: you meant me? |
| 02:26.33 | rubenset | uo you're algerian? |
| 02:26.42 | bododo | I'll be on debian forver :) |
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| 02:26.52 | rubenset | ubuntu forever |
| 02:26.54 | rubenset | XD |
| 02:26.57 | bododo | too upset by ubuntu |
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| 02:27.22 | bododo | doesn't mean to start a flame or anything. I swear :) |
| 02:27.44 | rubenset | xDD |
| 02:27.45 | bododo | one thing I noticed is free -m |
| 02:27.58 | bododo | boy! that really makes a difference! |
| 02:28.12 | rubenset | relax |
| 02:28.13 | rubenset | xD |
| 02:28.21 | bododo | :) |
| 02:28.36 | nsadmin | the truth is, the kernel is mostly what supports hardware... maybe there are little pieces that do things like assemble config files and such, ot |
| 02:28.40 | rubenset | this chat is -m |
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| 02:29.18 | bododo | nsadmin: so on Lenny it's lighter? |
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| 02:29.38 | rubenset | lenin! |
| 02:29.38 | rubenset | XD |
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| 02:30.23 | nsadmin | not necessarily |
| 02:30.49 | bododo | ah! But I really notice that it uses less memory |
| 02:30.50 | nsadmin | on any dist, it's the kernel that handles most hardware |
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| 02:31.05 | bododo | yeah I see what you mean |
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| 02:32.02 | bododo | is there an easy way to upgrade xfce to 4.6? |
| 02:32.12 | bododo | (without compiling preferably) |
| 02:32.23 | Mauditcalissetab | rOooh |
| 02:32.27 | Mauditcalissetab | quoi ? |
| 02:32.33 | Mauditcalissetab | pourkoi ca a join, la ? |
| 02:32.38 | bododo | ben... faire une mise jour :) |
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| 02:33.11 | bododo | needs to setup his mac keyboard properly |
| 02:33.44 | rubenset | meilleur linux |
| 02:34.12 | Akuw | i need to configure a computer with debian to make backup of server |
| 02:34.21 | adb | debian-fr est a vous sur oftc |
| 02:34.32 | Akuw | but what i need if the computer2 have a mirror of computer1 |
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| 02:34.57 | bododo | abd: but it's deadly silent --often :( |
| 02:35.30 | adb | vue l'heure ... |
| 02:35.43 | bododo | mouais :) t'as raison, en fait |
| 02:36.15 | abrotman | !fr |
| 02:36.15 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 02:36.51 | bododo | sorry folks :) |
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| 02:39.18 | adb | bododo: backport ? |
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| 02:41.54 | nslater | i did an upgrade and now gnome-mount doesn't run automatically |
| 02:41.59 | nslater | any ideas what's up with that? |
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| 02:44.15 | adb | !automount |
| 02:44.15 | dpkg | If you're running one of the desktop environments in Debian, then ask me about <gnome-volume-manager>, <kde automount>, or <thunar-volman>. If you want something for the command line, then ask me about <halevt>, <ivman>, or <usb mount>. For a completely different approach to automounting, ask me about <autofs>. |
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| 02:45.05 | nslater | adb: so... gnome-volume-manager. do you know why it stopped working? |
| 02:45.31 | adb | reinstall it , i guess |
| 02:45.45 | pickcoder | nslater: define "upgrade" |
| 02:45.58 | adb | or a hald issue |
| 02:46.00 | nslater | pickcoder: upgraded my testing system after a long while |
| 02:46.19 | nslater | hmm gnome-volume-manager is not even installed!? |
| 02:46.29 | nslater | that's a very weird thing to have been removed in an upgrade |
| 02:46.50 | nslater | im on squeeze at the moment, weird that this should be missing |
| 02:46.52 | pickcoder | did you not look at the dist-upgrade information aptitude provided before you ran it? |
| 02:47.04 | nslater | of course, I always do |
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| 02:47.28 | pickcoder | if there was a conflict in depends then it would have removed it |
| 02:47.36 | pickcoder | and said it was going to |
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| 02:47.57 | nslater | well, I presume that the output was big enough that I only skimmed the packages |
| 02:48.20 | pickcoder | you can run a simulation and dump the output to a log file to review |
| 02:48.28 | nslater | sure, thanks |
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| 02:48.36 | nslater | actually have another problem too |
| 02:48.44 | pickcoder | I don't bother.. I just capture the "this is gone.." sections and manually reinstall those |
| 02:48.45 | nslater | ran gnome-mount -d /dev/sdb to get my ipod mounted |
| 02:48.57 | nslater | it comes up under /media/NOAH which is nice |
| 02:49.04 | nslater | but all the files are owned by root |
| 02:49.08 | nslater | and I can't change the ownerships |
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| 02:49.34 | nslater | which means I can't update my ipod as my regular user |
| 02:49.42 | nslater | very confused why it's not letting me change ownerships |
| 02:50.04 | pickcoder | I don't use the desktops that often.. can't help there |
| 02:50.16 | nslater | /dev/sdb on /media/NOAH type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=0) |
| 02:50.18 | pickcoder | even in X I still use the shell more than anything else |
| 02:50.24 | nslater | well, this is more of a filesystem issue |
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| 02:50.38 | nslater | it's mounted rw, but I cannot change the ownership :/ |
| 02:50.39 | pickcoder | not if gnome-mount is setting mount permissions |
| 02:51.20 | pickcoder | try mounting it manually |
| 02:51.53 | pickcoder | then compare mount settings |
| 02:52.06 | nslater | pickcoder: just mounted manually, same problem |
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| 02:53.14 | pickcoder | I'd plug my iphone into my dev box but I just got it and would rather not corrupt it |
| 02:53.24 | nslater | :-) |
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| 02:54.24 | jspiros_rescue | Is there some way to determine what packages were installed on a system purely from the contents of /etc? |
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| 02:55.26 | pickcoder | jspiros_rescue: not if the removed pacakges were not purged too |
| 02:55.36 | pickcoder | config files can be left on the system for later application reinstall |
| 02:55.56 | jspiros_rescue | the problem I'm having is that the disk my /var and /usr partitions were on is, erm, not happy |
| 02:56.07 | nsadmin | jspiros_rescue: no, the package database is in /var |
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| 02:56.16 | jspiros_rescue | bleh |
| 02:56.56 | pickcoder | jspiros_rescue: dpkg won't list them? |
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| 02:57.20 | jspiros_rescue | pickcoder: no, this problem is beyond dpkg ;p |
| 02:57.49 | nsadmin | problem? |
| 02:57.58 | blendmaster1024 | is away: Gone away for now |
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| 02:58.48 | pickcoder | jspiros_rescue: I would assume so else you wouldn't be asking what you asked |
| 02:59.02 | pickcoder | but if dpkg can give you anything it's that much more helpful |
| 02:59.18 | jspiros_rescue | nsadmin: I did something very stupid |
| 02:59.24 | jspiros_rescue | I deleted all my backups five minutes before I needed them |
| 02:59.26 | pickcoder | you can list /etc/default/ and grab a few package names |
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| 02:59.49 | pickcoder | the stuff in /etc/ is a crapshoot |
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| 03:00.26 | pickcoder | you'll be using apt-file for days trying to find package names based on unusual config file names |
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| 03:00.49 | blendmaster1024 | is back. |
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| 03:01.15 | jspiros_rescue | well, when I'm done salvaging /home, I'll try to rescue what I need from /var |
| 03:01.39 | pickcoder | stick the drive in the freezer for a couple of hours |
| 03:01.48 | jspiros_rescue | thankfully /home even mounted, whereas /usr didn't. |
| 03:01.52 | jspiros_rescue | are you kidding? |
| 03:02.06 | pickcoder | it works... for a few minutes |
| 03:02.13 | pickcoder | atleast it did the couple times I tried it |
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| 03:02.22 | pickcoder | ymmv |
| 03:02.42 | pickcoder | as soon as condensate forms on the board the drive will toast itself |
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| 03:02.47 | pickcoder | :) |
| 03:02.55 | lewis2 | ah fuck - can one undelete a directory in ext3? ;) |
| 03:03.09 | Akaji | ppl plz where is the trash directory? |
| 03:03.12 | abrotman | !tell blendmaster1024 about away |
| 03:03.24 | pickcoder | !undelete |
| 03:03.25 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
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| 03:04.18 | Akaji | ineed where to find trash directory :P |
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| 03:04.31 | pickcoder | there isn't one unless you're asking about KDE or Gnome |
| 03:04.38 | pickcoder | either way I have no idea |
| 03:04.51 | Akaji | xfce |
| 03:05.01 | Akaji | xfce but im in lxde |
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| 03:06.11 | lewis2 | !ext3grep |
| 03:06.12 | dpkg | i guess ext3grep is a tool to assist in recovering deleted files from an <ext3> filesystem. http://code.google.com/p/ext3grep/ Packaged for Debian since Lenny. |
| 03:06.56 | pickcoder | !info ext3grep Lenny |
| 03:07.13 | pickcoder | interesting.. I didn't know it was packaged |
| 03:07.26 | Akaji | if i 'delete' a file by xfce, and this file is the xfce trash, then im in lxde, how can i clear this trash? |
| 03:07.27 | dpkg | ext3grep: (Tool to help recover deleted files on ext3 filesystems), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.8.0-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 115 kB, Installed size: 300 kB |
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| 03:08.39 | pickcoder | lewis2: if you've had a decent amount of file I/O since your delete then I doubt you'll be 100% successful |
| 03:08.42 | pickcoder | worth a try though |
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| 03:14.32 | Akaji | where is guyz the xfce trsh directory in the filesysteme plz? |
| 03:14.49 | Akaji | *trash didectory |
| 03:15.15 | Akaji | dir |
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| 03:16.34 | Polizei | Akaji, ~/.local/share/Trash/ |
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| 03:21.09 | lewis2 | I can't believe I deleted an entire dir with rsync because I put a dirname/ instead of dirname |
| 03:21.15 | lewis2 | that's pretty silly |
| 03:21.47 | Akaji | tnx a lot Polizei ^^ |
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| 03:25.03 | CcSsNET | lewis2 thats almost as bad as the rm -rf * .extention scenario |
| 03:25.16 | CcSsNET | vs *.extention |
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| 03:27.25 | tfogal | I remember once reading in some documentation that ubuntu had some sort of `new .deb review' setup, and some debian docs recommended first time packagers try to put their .debs through that process to help uncover any issues. |
| 03:27.46 | tfogal | Unfortunately I can't find the name of that or the piece of documentation in my memory -- does the above ring a bell for anyone? |
| 03:27.47 | lewis2 | yeh |
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| 03:30.50 | Akaji | guyz, how to purge xfce setting, only the settings by user or by root, and not xfce? |
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| 03:32.10 | Akaji | can I use another "workspace pager" into lxde, for expample xfce pager in lxde? |
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| 03:36.49 | lewis2 | err - how long does an ext3grep search take? |
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| 03:40.55 | bookmark | hiya |
| 03:41.22 | bookmark | does anyone know where i should put xsetroot to make the background a solid color? |
| 03:41.38 | bookmark | i'm using a window manager which doesn't do that automatically |
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| 03:52.02 | Pnux | hey, i use Debian Squeeze (testing) and i have a dependency problem between kdebase-bin-kde3 and kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4.. i currently use KDE3.. i tried to remove kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4, but aparently it isnt installed.. does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong? |
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| 04:03.16 | lewis2 | ext3grep is great, and I can use it to restore particular files - what's the best way to restore recursively a dir if I know its inode? |
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| 04:10.48 | Rusty1 | http://lde.sourceforge.net/ dunno abt recursive , lewis2 |
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| 04:12.00 | bookmark | does anyone know how to change the fonts that xterm cycles through? |
| 04:12.54 | bookmark | nevermind |
| 04:14.32 | PiousMinion | Anyone know if using a journaling filesystem on a LUKS encrypted partition is a bad idea? I read somewhere that using a journal means tht everything written to disk has to be encrypted twice.(once for journal, once again for actual write). Ideas? |
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| 04:20.40 | dbbolton | which debian package contains the schumacher clean font? |
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| 04:23.10 | enouf | tfogal: proposed updates? |
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| 04:23.37 | enouf | tfogal: nmu? non-maintainer upload? |
| 04:23.56 | enouf | dbbolton: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 04:24.34 | dbbolton | enouf i don't have the font on my system. i want to install it. |
| 04:24.46 | enouf | right |
| 04:25.13 | dbbolton | also pcf fonts have erratic file names different from the font name |
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| 04:25.52 | enouf | another helpful tool can be fc-match |
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| 04:39.26 | Combat_Wombat | hey guys, damn small linux (run on jumpdrive) only sees lo , it doesn't see my ethernet card... help? |
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| 04:43.50 | enouf | Combat_Wombat: lspci -nn will show you/us |
| 04:44.07 | Combat_Wombat | thank you |
| 04:44.14 | enouf | Combat_Wombat: oh, DSL? well.. ask in #damnsmalllinux |
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| 04:44.36 | Combat_Wombat | did |
| 04:44.40 | Combat_Wombat | there are 14 users... |
| 04:44.42 | Combat_Wombat | all afk |
| 04:44.47 | enouf | !they don't know |
| 04:44.48 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 04:45.13 | enouf | it's that ... we support Debian here, not debian-based |
| 04:45.20 | Combat_Wombat | hey dpkg, fuck you.. if you don't wanna help the stfu |
| 04:45.28 | enouf | haha |
| 04:45.30 | Combat_Wombat | i ran that command |
| 04:45.41 | Combat_Wombat | i gota buncha stuff :D |
| 04:45.47 | enouf | Combat_Wombat: if you ever use debian, you'd regret that comment ;-) |
| 04:45.50 | Combat_Wombat | btw the guys from #hak5, my buddies suggested here |
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| 04:46.06 | Combat_Wombat | im sure, |
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| 04:46.34 | Combat_Wombat | i just feel if you wanna be an ass then why not just shut up,, i don't mean to be rude, but blunt |
| 04:46.35 | enouf | Combat_Wombat: find your PCIID and load the module, but dsl networking i think uses pump, not dhcpd |
| 04:46.48 | Combat_Wombat | im showing an internet controller.. lan controller (rev 01) |
| 04:46.59 | Combat_Wombat | i dunno how to load it :S |
| 04:47.14 | nsadmin | Combat_Wombat: if they don't know and people here don't know (or it's off topic), what's the point of asking here? |
| 04:47.29 | Combat_Wombat | i was suggested here,, im not just runnin around |
| 04:47.31 | enouf | Combat_Wombat: i did help though - even though we don't here - and you want to cop an attitude? that's extremely immature |
| 04:47.43 | Combat_Wombat | no you |
| 04:47.45 | Combat_Wombat | your ok |
| 04:47.46 | Combat_Wombat | :D |
| 04:47.49 | Combat_Wombat | it was him. |
| 04:47.51 | Combat_Wombat | thats all |
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| 04:48.23 | Combat_Wombat | but you provide help. even a silence or perhapse i dont know woulda been fine.. just yelling about bothering people and google is just rude |
| 04:48.37 | Combat_Wombat | so i see the ethernet controller .. how do i load it? |
| 04:48.42 | enouf | it's a bot Combat_Wombat |
| 04:48.55 | avu | !based on debian |
| 04:48.56 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 04:48.57 | Combat_Wombat | stupid bot |
| 04:49.07 | nsadmin | Combat_Wombat: have you looked at it from the other side yet? |
| 04:49.18 | UncleBob | How can I have numlock be turned on at startup automatically or simply force the numpad to always input numbers regardless of the numlock status? |
| 04:49.38 | Combat_Wombat | sits down |
| 04:49.39 | adb | set inBIOS |
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| 04:49.54 | Combat_Wombat | so, how do i go about turning on this here ethernet controller? |
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| 04:50.04 | UncleBob | adb: It is on in the bios, and I think debian turns it off. |
| 04:50.08 | nsadmin | rub it gently? |
| 04:50.18 | enouf | UncleBob: very good question .. in Console, no issues, all kernels (debian ones) - in X? ugh... |
| 04:50.19 | adb | not me |
| 04:50.20 | gauge | g'day gents |
| 04:50.36 | UncleBob | enouf: I don't have X. It is too ginormous. =P |
| 04:50.43 | enouf | UncleBob: my BIOS setting does absolutely nothing |
| 04:50.52 | gauge | I'm about to install debian. Whats the beeding edge? 5.0? |
| 04:50.58 | enouf | UncleBob: oh, then /msg dpkg keymap ? |
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| 04:51.21 | epsas | gauge - bleeding edge is unstable, but you probably want to run stable "lenny" 5.0 |
| 04:51.22 | nsadmin | gauge: 5.0.1 is latest released. |
| 04:51.26 | epsas | as unstable is, err, unstable |
| 04:51.32 | adb | gauge: 5.0.1 http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 04:51.39 | gauge | wicked pissah. |
| 04:52.02 | UncleBob | enouf: Thanks!!! |
| 04:52.06 | enouf | UncleBob: in all fairness, i think this keyboard is haunted - the NumPad DOES ACTUALLY WORK in an xterm, but ONLY if i select TERM=VT220 :-/ |
| 04:52.16 | enouf | All other apps it's broken |
| 04:52.24 | gauge | can I use the "goodbye-windows" site? |
| 04:52.32 | enouf | why not? |
| 04:52.37 | enouf | !debian.exe |
| 04:52.37 | dpkg | debian.exe is a debian-installer loader for win32. It installs Debian as default; it installs grub for NT on C drive, then downloads the netboot kernel/initrd.gz from debian.org, and creates entries in boot.ini to load grub/menu.lst. Available at http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/. Also ask me about <ig> <setup.exe> or see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader |
| 04:52.45 | gauge | wiicked. |
| 04:53.08 | enouf | gauge: did you mean for a specific purpose? |
| 04:53.10 | gauge | and wifi, can I netinst over wifi, or should I suck it up and plug into my router? |
| 04:53.18 | gauge | enouf: no not really. |
| 04:53.25 | enouf | well, /msg dpkg installer firmware |
| 04:53.49 | nsadmin | gauge: if you have a supported eth controller, start with wired |
| 04:54.04 | nsadmin | that would probably be the easiest |
| 04:54.06 | UncleBob | enouf: Hmm. Does setting keymap to one of the "mac / " ones cause numlock to have no effect on any numpad keys, as should be the case? |
| 04:54.09 | gauge | Will do. |
| 04:54.22 | enouf | UncleBob: no idea |
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| 04:54.36 | Combat_Wombat | so modprobe will load a module, but what about the pci thing you showed me. thats where is shows up, i don't see it in lsmod, |
| 04:55.04 | enouf | UncleBob: i happen to have an oldworld mac keyboard here, but would need atleast a very odd adapter to test :-P |
| 04:56.04 | enouf | (not to mention, i recall way back in oldworld era, the keycodes were all weird and mostly didn't work or something, some remapping was needed, IIRC) |
| 04:56.12 | UncleBob | enouf: I don't see any numlock-specific settings using dpkg-reconfigure console-data. |
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| 04:56.40 | enouf | UncleBob: right ... |
| 04:57.36 | enouf | UncleBob: i'm just not sure ... but the 3 standard LEDs are more of a BIOS function / or some RAW mode codes or something - hence also why SYSRQ can work |
| 04:57.52 | enouf | !xlat |
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| 04:57.52 | Combat_Wombat | sorry i yelled at your bot, i was a bit stupid and rash |
| 04:58.52 | nsadmin | Combat_Wombat the first thing you need to find out is which chipset implements the device you're trying to make work. drivers support chipsets. |
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| 04:59.14 | enouf | UncleBob: just something to scan over - http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html |
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| 04:59.34 | o_ | hello. is there a good monitor for a home network? i need a basic summary of sites visited, p2p activity etc. just to make sure the kid is not doing nasty stuff |
| 04:59.55 | enouf | Combat_Wombat: is that a 2.4 kernel? uname -a should tell us |
| 05:00.14 | UncleBob | enouf: I set it to mac-us-std and now keys have been remapped everywhere... |
| 05:00.26 | enouf | haha :-) |
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| 05:00.51 | UncleBob | I found the return key... |
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| 05:01.24 | Combat_Wombat | i may have yanked out the usb and am currently installing fedora 11 beta, something im a bit more familiar with. sorry enouf and the res of you for the trouble :S |
| 05:01.25 | enouf | UncleBob: yeah, careeful you don't load some really obscure keymapping as well ;-) |
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| 05:01.32 | enouf | locale |
| 05:01.36 | UncleBob | enouf: Okay, I can use F3 and F4 for up and down and J for enter. =P |
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| 05:05.39 | UncleBob | enouf: Does setleds -D +num save the "default" into something that is loaded on startup? =/ |
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| 05:08.13 | hedgehoginfog | Does the difference between primary and extended partitions only plat its role under Windows ? |
| 05:08.36 | UncleBob | ... "plat"? |
| 05:09.03 | hedgehoginfog | play* |
| 05:09.55 | \amethyst | if someone does drag a filename containing a newline, the eval will give a syntax error |
| 05:09.58 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 05:10.04 | hedgehoginfog | like I'm going to merge two partitions spanning over more two physical drives via lvm2 and thinking if it matter that they are primary or extended |
| 05:10.14 | enouf | UncleBob: there might be a kernel boot parameter you can pass to the kernel |
| 05:10.44 | enouf | hedgehoginfog: basically, yes |
| 05:11.01 | hedgehoginfog | enouf, hm? What 'yes'? |
| 05:11.05 | UncleBob | What do you mean? Primary and extended partitions are different, though only to the extent that extended partitions are referenced from extended MBRs and not the main MBR?? |
| 05:11.08 | enouf | hedgehoginfog: it's not an issue for linux to boot off of even non-Active boot flagged partitions |
| 05:11.34 | hedgehoginfog | ok. Thanks. |
| 05:11.40 | enouf | hedgehoginfog: i was answering your initial question |
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| 05:12.26 | enouf | hedgehoginfog: as to your lvm one; no, shouldn't matter - but note, there's no need for MS-DOS style partitioning when using LVM |
| 05:12.51 | enouf | and, in general, Ext'd are more trouble than they're worth |
| 05:13.42 | enouf | UncleBob: that's basically correct, they're chained along (xMBR), partition boot sectors |
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| 05:14.18 | UncleBob | enouf: I've been manually writing MBR and extended MBR partition tables for a while now. =P |
| 05:14.49 | enouf | it's nice to look at Ext'd + Logicals as another Redmond hack, that LVM puts to shame ;-) |
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| 05:15.31 | UncleBob | enouf: "chained along"? |
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| 05:19.15 | enouf | UncleBob: yes, the Ext'd is just big enough to be a pointer to 1st logical boot sector .. which then lists, points to the 2nd and so on |
| 05:19.18 | seth1248 | Can anyone help? Just installed lenny lxde on a desktop, but it will not start gdm. lcpci gives me: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express. |
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| 05:19.57 | enouf | UncleBob: why do you think you can have many more than 4 more Logicals? |
| 05:20.41 | enouf | seth1248: maybe run gdmsetup? |
| 05:20.56 | enouf | seth1248: i don't use any DM anymore, never used gdm ... |
| 05:21.21 | UncleBob | enouf: My fourth primary partition is of type 0xf, and the extended MBR has 4 logical partitions on it (no need for three extened MBRs). =P |
| 05:21.30 | enouf | seth1248: other things are , as root update-alternatives --config x-[tab][tab] and configure those |
| 05:22.02 | UncleBob | or four, or whatever the unnecessarily nested way uses. |
| 05:22.38 | enouf | UncleBob: i dare you to write zeros to each of those logicals' 1st 63 sectors :-P |
| 05:23.05 | UncleBob | enouf: ... Why? They have my data on it. =P |
| 05:23.17 | enouf | UncleBob: make backups! :-p |
| 05:23.38 | UncleBob | enouf: Most of them came from backups. =P |
| 05:23.44 | seth1248 | gdmsetup gives me:Gtk-WARNING **; cannot open display: |
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| 05:24.02 | enouf | seth1248: set display using "export DISPLAY=:0.0" |
| 05:24.11 | enouf | if that's the correct display |
| 05:24.12 | UncleBob | enouf: But what is special about the first 63 sectors of, say, the Win2K partition? |
| 05:24.34 | enouf | UncleBob: nothing - which win2k partition? |
| 05:24.53 | enouf | UncleBob: just look at them with a hexeditor |
| 05:25.02 | UncleBob | enouf: Sorry; I mean what is special about the first 63 sectors of any logical partition? |
| 05:25.13 | enouf | itll all become clear -- wanna read a bit? |
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| 05:25.27 | enouf | UncleBob: nothing anymore special than the 1st 63 of any Primary |
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| 05:25.30 | UncleBob | enouf: I see what I expect; things like the Windows bootloader? |
| 05:25.54 | UncleBob | enouf: I didn't know they used the first 63, I thought it was just the first 1. =P |
| 05:25.58 | nsadmin | it depends on what flavor of fdisk created the partitions... some leave space for a chainloader, some don't |
| 05:26.26 | enouf | UncleBob: most times yes - however - they also make backups, use markers for jumping elsewhere ... all sorts of sad hacks |
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| 05:27.11 | enouf | UncleBob: why (better asked is HOW) doesn't windows allow booting off a logical? |
| 05:27.12 | UncleBob | nsadmin: I didn't use fdisk; I used hexedit, and only left the first track clear for GRUB's stage 1 or whatever it writes there. |
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| 05:27.21 | seth1248 | being that lscpi gives me: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller ..., and 00:02.1 Display controller... Should I do:export Display=:0.2? |
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| 05:28.02 | enouf | UncleBob: IOW, how does it check? you think that info is contained in the 1st 512 bytes of any partition's 1st sector? |
| 05:28.41 | enouf | seth1248: no |
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| 05:28.55 | UncleBob | enouf: ... I'm confused. What are you asking me? |
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| 05:29.14 | enouf | seth1248: :0 represents the 1st XServer instance - the .0 the 1st Display hooked up to that xserver |
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| 05:29.34 | enouf | UncleBob: i'm tired - how about you? |
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| 05:30.22 | enouf | typing is a _really_really_annoying chore_ when the NumPad and DownArrow keys are not working |
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| 05:31.04 | UncleBob | enouf: Not tired... but I have a bad headache. I just successfully used the WinXP bootloader (on a primary partition) to boot off Win2K (on an extended partition). |
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| 05:32.02 | UncleBob | ... though Win2K is now stuck in an infinite loop which is logging in and logging out. -.- |
| 05:32.04 | enouf | seth1248: i'd try this; login to a TTY1 as your username; startx -- -:0.0 |
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| 05:32.59 | enouf | seth1248: rm any/all .DCOP_ files if you have any in your /home/username/. |
| 05:33.43 | enouf | seth1248: and the DISPLAY variable is all CAPS |
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| 05:35.29 | abbe | hi everyone. |
| 05:36.05 | NavY-Seal | what sugestions do u guys have right now i have this bootload config ... Vista bootloader that calls vista and NT Bootloader and then NT bootloader can start XP or 2000 or homeserver ... i just added another hdd on that machine and put debian on it how can i modify the boot loader for the best practice? |
| 05:36.17 | enouf | seth1248: is tab-completion enabled? remove the # from the 3 related lines in your ~/.bashrc ... as root user, generate it's own /root/.bashrc , (or edit the .profile file?) |
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| 05:38.07 | abbe | i'm planning to download debian 5 CD1 (i386) to get a basic debian installation (which includes coreutils,findutils,bash,kernel,sed,awk,etc.). i'm wondering if just downloading CD1 is sufficient for this. |
| 05:39.12 | seth1248 | enouf: startx -- -:0.0 gives me Unrecognized option: -:0.0 |
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| 05:41.51 | nsadmin | try just startx |
| 05:42.07 | SunnyDP | Hey guys, Does NORTEL's VP even know what Linux is? : :D http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/05/nortel-choses-linux-for-250-mi.html |
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| 05:42.28 | nsadmin | SunnyDP: got a debian support question? |
| 05:43.15 | abbe | any ideas anyone ? |
| 05:43.22 | SunnyDP | nsadmin: i was going to set up a DNS for my Active Dirctory Domain Controller this week, and i would have really like,d it to be Debian based |
| 05:43.25 | nsadmin | abbe: if you hve a nice net connection you don't need the cds |
| 05:43.41 | SunnyDP | nsadmin: you think it;s the right way to go ? |
| 05:44.06 | abbe | nsadmin: one of my friend needs it who just wants to practise shell scripts in his gnu/linux course and is not having any internet connection. |
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| 05:44.38 | nsadmin | you don't need much |
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| 05:45.04 | abbe | nsadmin: yeah, i'm just wondering if all this is available in debian cd1. |
| 05:45.26 | nsadmin | probably cd1 but don't take my word for it, there's supposed to be a way to see what the cds have |
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| 05:45.59 | abbe | nsadmin: how ? |
| 05:46.10 | nsadmin | dunno myself |
| 05:46.28 | abbe | :). anyways, thanks nsadmin :) |
| 05:46.42 | nsadmin | SunnyDP: who's going to run it? |
| 05:47.19 | SunnyDP | nsadmin: i will be developing on the Windows Server 2008 the whole summer |
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| 05:47.56 | SunnyDP | nsadmin: it was debian or centos |
| 05:48.00 | nsadmin | the questions you need to ask are... |
| 05:48.19 | nsadmin | how many people will this ad serve? |
| 05:48.41 | seth1248 | enouf: tab-completion seems to be enable being that if I type dirn+ tab i get dirname |
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| 05:48.57 | nsadmin | how many will be able to run the server if it's linux-based? if it's windows-based? |
| 05:49.05 | enouf | seth1248: remove the leading '-' from '-:0.0' |
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| 05:50.01 | seth1248 | startx without any arguments gives me:intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found |
| 05:50.23 | enouf | seth1248: that's good - use it for update-alternatives --config as i mentioned - if you have any ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc move them - but what happens when you riun gdmsetup? |
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| 05:51.09 | enouf | seth1248: move your /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way as well ... or edit it properly and ... that |
| 05:51.17 | enouf | s your external display |
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| 05:52.32 | enouf | which would be :0.1 |
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| 05:54.21 | seth1248 | so: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found is just probably referring to my s-video adaptor - so I can just ignore that? |
| 05:54.33 | denon | any PureFTP folks awake? trying to get Virtual Users working, without much luck |
| 05:54.57 | enouf | just yank that crap out for now |
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| 05:55.36 | enouf | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller is your Craptop main LVDS Display |
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| 05:56.01 | enouf | 00:02.1 Display controller is your external crap |
| 05:57.07 | enouf | seth1248: i suppose gdmsetup will never be run eh? |
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| 05:57.34 | enouf | and neither the update-* |
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| 06:01.14 | seth1248 | gdmsetup gives me: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 06:02.17 | enouf | which is correct, and i told you how easy that is to fix |
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| 06:05.20 | SunnyDP | nsadmin: thanks man |
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| 06:06.42 | seth1248 | update-alternatives --config x-[tab][tab] gives me nothing |
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| 06:07.30 | enouf | # update-alternatives --config x- |
| 06:07.31 | enouf | x-cursor-theme x-session-manager x-terminal-emulator x-window-manager x-www-browser |
| 06:08.09 | enouf | install xorg or something |
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| 06:10.17 | seth1248 | sorry I was doing: update-alternatives --config x-[tab][tab] as root. |
| 06:10.31 | enouf | you're supposed to |
| 06:10.47 | seth1248 | As myself I got the same as you. |
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| 06:11.28 | enouf | your perms are shot then -- reinstall :-) |
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| 06:14.33 | seth1248 | this was a fresh install of lenny lxde |
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| 06:16.30 | seth1248 | I also get this same problem with knoppix live cd unless I do fb1280x1024. |
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| 06:18.44 | nsadmin | what kind of filesystems do you put on the partitions? |
| 06:19.01 | hedgehoginfog | The Etch installer wouldn't detect any disk dirve on my laptop. Is it because of the SATA drives or becuase I used lvm to merge two physical drives into one partition? |
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| 06:20.22 | nsadmin | hedgehoginfog: etch installer? you could try a lenny installer, or did you already? |
| 06:21.13 | seth1248 | I installed to xfs filesystem. |
| 06:21.29 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, No, I didn't try it yet. Can I download it separately without getting the entire set of packages, and then insert my Etch DVD? |
| 06:21.56 | nsadmin | you want etch? |
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| 06:22.01 | zxd | hi |
| 06:22.12 | zxd | in rsync how do I make it exclude all and include only what I specify |
| 06:22.19 | nsadmin | etch is stable... but there is a newer stable |
| 06:22.30 | hedgehoginfog | I know. |
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| 06:22.49 | hedgehoginfog | I just don't want to download the whole DVD. |
| 06:22.57 | nsadmin | ok, so you want etch because you have that dvd? |
| 06:23.06 | hedgehoginfog | It's easier to install etch and upgrade it to lenny or squeeze |
| 06:23.12 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, Yes. |
| 06:23.18 | nsadmin | are you going to be on a broadband connection most of the time? |
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| 06:23.25 | enouf | no it isn't .. unless netspeed is an issue |
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| 06:23.29 | hedgehoginfog | Is it possible to use lenny's installer separately? |
| 06:23.38 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, Yes. |
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| 06:24.12 | enouf | actually - even then, lenny's pkgs are all new compared to etch's |
| 06:24.14 | hedgehoginfog | Like maybe there is a 50Mb cd image which contains lenny's installer and I could use it and when it comes to copying packages I could install my DVD? |
| 06:24.20 | kanon-mat | does "modprobe dm-mod ; vgchange -ay" work in the etch installer? |
| 06:24.43 | Determiner234 | hello everyone |
| 06:24.47 | nsadmin | then it makes more sense to get a small netinst cd image, burn that, use it to install lenny base, then go from there |
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| 06:25.36 | nsadmin | if you can get the internet connection seen early in the install, it will pull everything in off the net from the start |
| 06:25.48 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, I'm not sure it will work with marvell yukon network card |
| 06:25.51 | nsadmin | including parts of itself |
| 06:26.05 | duanedesign | zxd: rsync supports exclude options similar to tar |
| 06:26.15 | nsadmin | hmm, not sure of that myself... |
| 06:26.39 | nsadmin | but wait, had you ever used that card with linux? |
| 06:26.42 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, So, isn't there a small cd image with lenny installer only? |
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| 06:26.55 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, It's a new laptop. |
| 06:27.02 | nsadmin | well installer + base |
| 06:27.08 | nsadmin | 150mb approx |
| 06:27.24 | hedgehoginfog | more or less acceptable |
| 06:27.31 | nsadmin | and you wouldn't go to the dvd after that |
| 06:27.41 | nsadmin | my earlier question still stands |
| 06:27.54 | nsadmin | but wait, had you ever used that yukon card with linux? |
| 06:28.34 | hedgehoginfog | I need to find out if it works. |
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| 06:28.54 | nsadmin | got another card you could use temporarily? |
| 06:28.56 | hedgehoginfog | But if it doesn't this laptop is nothing but a hammer. |
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| 06:29.28 | nsadmin | one thing that would be helpful is an lspci listing |
| 06:30.06 | seth1248 | enouf: so my only hope is to try to reinstall? |
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| 06:31.19 | seth1248 | because of my permissions? |
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| 06:33.57 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, Will the first CD from the set of lenny's installation CDs help? |
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| 06:35.12 | trupheenix | can anyone help me with bluetooth on lenny lxde? i am trying to transfer files from my nokia phone. i cannot seem to find my bluetooth device under /dev. however when i do lsusb, it shows up. |
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| 06:36.44 | mateusz | Hi |
| 06:36.57 | mateusz | after upgrading to latest grub my system does not start |
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| 06:37.26 | mateusz | I mounted filesystem from initrams busybox |
| 06:37.34 | mateusz | and managed to get online |
| 06:37.43 | mateusz | but still I dont know whats wrong... |
| 06:37.52 | skrite | someone have a good idea about when testing branch will have ext4? |
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| 06:38.27 | skrite | or, maybe a better question... is ext4 better enough than ext3 to merrit sweating it? |
| 06:38.51 | mateusz | skrite: if you dont need it badly or run server I would recomment to use ext3 |
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| 06:39.33 | skrite | mateusz: is there much call to need it badly ? i am just considering for my desktop |
| 06:40.05 | mateusz | skrite: ok my suggestion is to google for differences between them |
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| 06:40.15 | mateusz | skrite: and ask yoursel "Do I need it ?" |
| 06:40.22 | skrite | mateusz: right |
| 06:41.20 | mateusz | skrite: every filesystem tunning is risky, so if you dont need it, keep ext3 |
| 06:41.30 | jesselang | Where can I get a usb stick image for "testing"? |
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| 06:43.07 | trupheenix | can anyone help me get my bluetooth working? |
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| 06:44.32 | hifi | trupheenix: it doesn't work or you don't know how to use it? |
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| 06:45.18 | mateusz | I will repeat my question. Did any sid users noticed problems booting with latest grub ? |
| 06:45.55 | mateusz | I am falling back to initramfs busybox due to timeout waiting for root fs |
| 06:46.13 | mateusz | I activated lvm2 manualy, mounted and chroot-ed |
| 06:46.14 | trupheenix | hifi: hmmm it works but i don't know how to use it. i was using GNOME earlier. now i switched to LXDE. so i don't have much experience using hci from the shell |
| 06:46.19 | seth1248 | trupheenix: I don't know anything about bluetooth, but have you seen: http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser ? |
| 06:46.28 | mateusz | but some help would be apreachated |
| 06:46.31 | valdyn | mateusz: the initrd is possibly missing |
| 06:46.48 | hifi | trupheenix: was just checking you don't have the chipset that has been broken since 2.6.27 |
| 06:47.00 | valdyn | mateusz: not the initrd but the entry for the initrd in your grub.cfg ( grub2) or menu.lst (grug1) |
| 06:47.17 | valdyn | mateusz: actually, the initrd should be missing too |
| 06:47.34 | trupheenix | hifi i got this Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8126 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 355 Bluetooth |
| 06:47.41 | mateusz | valdyn: I am using grub2 and I created initrd manualy beore |
| 06:47.51 | hifi | trupheenix: I'll pull up the bug report |
| 06:47.59 | valdyn | mateusz: but not the entry for it in /boot/grub/grug.cfg |
| 06:48.01 | valdyn | mateusz: but not the entry for it in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 06:48.28 | valdyn | mateusz: the mechanism by which is is triggered and done changed, i think that broke it for grub2 |
| 06:48.33 | hifi | trupheenix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/268502 |
| 06:48.50 | valdyn | mateusz: so just read your grub.cfg, its easy enough |
| 06:48.54 | hifi | though it seems you don't have one of those |
| 06:49.18 | hifi | trupheenix: and you should really use blueman, a gnome bluetooth manager |
| 06:49.18 | mateusz | valdyn: I see initrd entries in grub.cfg and also during booting |
| 06:49.22 | hifi | or some kde bluetooth manager |
| 06:49.25 | hifi | I don't know it's name |
| 06:49.29 | hifi | instead of command line |
| 06:49.34 | valdyn | mateusz: for the right kernel? |
| 06:49.35 | trupheenix | hifi: bug report? ok basically i did hcitool dev, it gave nothing. lsmod | grep hci_uart also gave me nothing. |
| 06:49.39 | mateusz | valdyn: yes |
| 06:49.46 | valdyn | mateusz: then your kernel is wrong |
| 06:49.52 | mateusz | valdyn: moreover I chroot-ed from initrd |
| 06:49.52 | trupheenix | hifi: this bluetooth device was working fine on ubuntu 8.10 |
| 06:50.27 | hifi | the it's not one of the broken ones |
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| 06:50.31 | mateusz | valdyn: system starts, initrd is loaded then its waiting for rootfs for too long and fallsback to busybox |
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| 06:50.46 | mateusz | valdyn: so I could mount it manualy |
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| 06:51.18 | mateusz | valdyn: kernel is fine and initrd is fine imho as only grub2 have changed |
| 06:51.31 | valdyn | mateusz: that boot manager is no longer involved at that point |
| 06:51.59 | valdyn | mateusz: all it still impacts is the root fs that your initrd tries to mount by the root=/dev/foo entry |
| 06:52.02 | mateusz | valdyn: one more thing... I get error when I run grub-emu |
| 06:52.44 | mateusz | valdyn: grub-emu says error: invaild arch independent ELF magic |
| 06:52.48 | valdyn | error: invalid arch independent ELF magic |
| 06:53.00 | valdyn | mateusz: that one? |
| 06:53.04 | mateusz | yes |
| 06:53.08 | valdyn | mateusz: irrelevant |
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| 06:56.05 | mateusz | valdyn: at this point maybe I will downgrade... |
| 06:56.32 | mateusz | valdyn: since I dont really know whats wrong, I have initrd images, kernel images and correct names in grub.cfg |
| 06:56.37 | mateusz | maybe paths are wrong ? |
| 06:56.55 | valdyn | mateusz: root=/dev/foo is wrong |
| 06:57.15 | mateusz | hm... cmdline says root=UUID=/dev/... |
| 06:57.53 | mateusz | valdyn: how to fine correct one ? |
| 06:58.23 | mateusz | valdyn: in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ? |
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| 06:58.49 | mateusz | valdyn: there was only one, after activating lvm2 there are 4 now |
| 06:59.31 | mateusz | valdyn: my /boot is /dev/sda1 while rootfs / is on lvm |
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| 07:00.24 | mateusz | valdyn: or you mean the root= option is wrong or the value for it? |
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| 07:00.45 | gauge | Yo, I did that netinstall awesomeness, but I'm havign a small problem. |
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| 07:01.01 | gauge | I'm at the last step, but neither grub nor lilo will install. |
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| 07:01.16 | OpenTokix | gauge: did you select some strange filesystem? |
| 07:01.17 | gauge | this is a dual boot vista/debian laptop fyi |
| 07:01.22 | gauge | nope. |
| 07:01.30 | gauge | I'm trying to write to the br. |
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| 07:01.33 | gauge | *mbr |
| 07:01.39 | OpenTokix | strange |
| 07:01.42 | gauge | aye. |
| 07:01.58 | hoohah | hello. anyone know if unstable has a security updates repo? |
| 07:01.59 | gauge | it's saying 'writting to /target failed'. |
| 07:02.06 | hoohah | also, if it's okay to use sidux sources for sid |
| 07:02.42 | mateusz | how to display UUID of mounted filesystems ? |
| 07:03.03 | cahoot | blkid |
| 07:03.05 | OpenTokix | hoohah: no, all security goes directly into sid |
| 07:03.09 | gauge | any sudgestions? |
| 07:03.11 | hoohah | mateusz: /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 07:03.21 | gauge | I'd have to be left with an unbootalbe system. |
| 07:03.35 | mateusz | hoohah: yeah but which one is which disk ? |
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| 07:03.48 | hoohah | mateusz: figure it out from # mount |
| 07:04.32 | mateusz | hm ok |
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| 07:09.06 | gauge | alright |
| 07:09.15 | gauge | I'm at a grub promt. |
| 07:09.36 | gauge | any ideas what i may want to type in? I just installed debian to /dev/sdb2 |
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| 07:09.55 | gauge | and in theory I should have a vista install here too. |
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| 07:12.01 | gauge | seriosly? no ideas? |
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| 07:12.46 | trupheenix | hifi: hmm i did modprobe hci_uart. |
| 07:12.49 | trupheenix | hifi: still no use |
| 07:12.52 | trupheenix | hifi: :( |
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| 07:14.30 | trupheenix | hifi: ah http://www.nabble.com/Dell-bluetooth-Broadcom-BCM2045B2,-lenny-td21201593.html |
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| 07:16.41 | hoohah | it's absolutely fine to mix sidux and sid sources, right? I'm only interested in fixes sidux may have deemed more important than debian |
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| 07:19.56 | nsadmin | hoohah: as you know, you can do anything you want... if you make this mix, there's a good chance that neither sidux nor debian people would be able to answer any questions you might have about what you find to be the restul |
| 07:20.03 | nsadmin | result |
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| 07:23.47 | hoohah | nsadmin: i'd just revert back to using sid only in that case |
| 07:23.51 | hoohah | i don't really want the trouble |
| 07:24.02 | hoohah | only the added benefit of expedient patches |
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| 07:26.50 | Determiner234 | yo |
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| 07:40.07 | tfogal | enouf: (et al.) I found it! I was thinking of "REVU", apparently at revu.ubuntuwire.com. It's mentioned in `The debian-mentors FAQ', which is probably why I had a hard time finding it. |
| 07:40.20 | tfogal | thanks for the ideas, though |
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| 07:42.49 | superlinux2 | hi all |
| 07:43.10 | superlinux2 | i am here to have fun helping others, as much as my powers can |
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| 07:45.10 | pyrohotdog | can you assist with setting up my radeon mobility for direct rendering? |
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| 07:46.31 | piper69 | Hello |
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| 07:47.49 | piper69 | i have forgot the password to a winrar file i have? |
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| 07:48.53 | nsadmin | piper69: you want to know whether you've forgotten your password? |
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| 07:49.36 | piper69 | can i use linux to find the password |
| 07:49.42 | nsadmin | I've forgotten whether you've forgotten... so completely I don't think I ever knew! |
| 07:50.19 | nsadmin | you can use linux to look at the bytes of the file. |
| 07:50.49 | piper69 | how , can you help please |
| 07:50.57 | nsadmin | no |
| 07:51.00 | piper69 | :) |
| 07:51.03 | nsadmin | because I never have done that |
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| 07:51.44 | nsadmin | but looking at the file, you can use emacs hexl mode |
| 07:52.02 | abbe | or hexdump -C |
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| 07:52.21 | piper69 | i don't know what is that |
| 07:52.41 | nsadmin | in that case, you have A LOT of reading to do. |
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| 07:53.03 | cromag | how about rarcrack |
| 07:53.10 | cromag | sf.net |
| 07:53.19 | cromag | might get you going. |
| 07:54.53 | piper69 | no match found |
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| 07:55.24 | cromag | ehm what do you mean ? |
| 07:55.38 | piper69 | rarcrack |
| 07:55.43 | cromag | yeah it is there.. |
| 07:55.57 | cromag | rarcrack.sf.net |
| 07:56.08 | mateusz | valdyn: Can you look at my grub.cg ? |
| 07:56.19 | superlinux2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:56.27 | mordain | hi, i changed my network card, is there a way to force debian to go through the auto detect stuff it did on install to make it find the right drivers ? |
| 07:56.32 | mateusz | valdyn: it look strange 00header and debian_header overwrite the same varible |
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| 07:57.07 | cahoot | mordain: it didn't already? |
| 07:57.17 | superlinux2 | so who asked for help? |
| 07:57.33 | superlinux2 | or who is? |
| 07:57.35 | mordain | no lo is the only thing that comes up when i do ifconfig |
| 07:58.31 | superlinux2 | mordin if u give: ifconig --all |
| 07:58.38 | superlinux2 | mordin if u give: ifconfig --all |
| 07:58.47 | superlinux2 | u have to see it |
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| 07:59.33 | mordain | oh yes it comes up now but has no IP |
| 07:59.49 | nsadmin | so the only one that's up is lo |
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| 08:00.06 | nsadmin | look at your interfaces file (in /etc/network/) |
| 08:00.20 | mateusz | Does anyone know how to fix grub ? |
| 08:00.25 | cahoot | (unless you use network-manager) |
| 08:00.27 | mordain | yeah lo has 127.0.0.1, but eth1 has no address |
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| 08:00.59 | superlinux2 | ok |
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| 08:01.12 | superlinux2 | mordin just read : man interfaces |
| 08:01.23 | cahoot | mordain: remove /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-network.rules and restart udev |
| 08:01.32 | nsadmin | that's a very good suggestion... |
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| 08:01.48 | mordain | cool will try thanks |
| 08:01.58 | nsadmin | while you're doing that, |
| 08:02.17 | seth1248 | What do you mean by fix grub? |
| 08:02.19 | nsadmin | you only have lo and eth1? no eth0? |
| 08:02.34 | cahoot | due to udev |
| 08:02.39 | mordain | yeah, pretty sure it used to be eth0 |
| 08:02.40 | nsadmin | scramble eggs and fry bacon... fix me some grub! |
| 08:02.50 | superlinux2 | mateusz what's with grub? |
| 08:03.05 | pyrohotdog | How can I rename eth1 to wlan0? |
| 08:03.12 | xingu | scrambles a quail egg for nsadmin |
| 08:03.32 | nsadmin | mmm grub :) |
| 08:03.44 | seth1248 | Speaking of that I'm off to get some now (grub). |
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| 08:04.27 | cahoot | pyrohotdog: the name is most probably set in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-network.rules |
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| 08:04.46 | nsadmin | pyrohotdog: if you have a wireless card and a linux driver ready, you'd get a wlan0 from ifconfig -a |
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| 08:05.41 | nsadmin | mordain: what's your net cable connected to on the other end? |
| 08:05.58 | mordain | it's a VM =) |
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| 08:06.54 | nsadmin | a vm? so eth1 is a fake net interface that connects to the other vms in the box? |
| 08:07.14 | mordain | ok i removed the persistent-network.rules, and did /etc/init.d/udev restart, that failed, but i rebooted and it works now =) |
| 08:07.38 | mordain | thanks guys |
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| 08:07.55 | nsadmin | I didn't do anything: but... |
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| 08:08.03 | nsadmin | youre welcome... |
| 08:08.17 | mordain | all suggestions welcome ;-) |
| 08:09.02 | nsadmin | do you have physical access to the box the vm is running in? |
| 08:09.09 | mordain | ya |
| 08:09.16 | mateusz | superlinux2: Ater upgrade it fallsback to busybox with timeout waiting or root fs |
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| 08:09.48 | mateusz | superlinux2: I get ALERT that root=UUID=/dev/... does not exist |
| 08:09.49 | superlinux2 | aha |
| 08:10.03 | nsadmin | so its not a server that's 3kilometers away |
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| 08:10.21 | mordain | yeah it on the type box im typing on now |
| 08:10.25 | mateusz | superlinux2: moreover I am using lvm2 |
| 08:10.35 | mordain | yeah it's on the box im typing on now |
| 08:10.45 | mateusz | superlinux2: can You help with that? |
| 08:10.46 | superlinux2 | mateusz ah ok |
| 08:10.55 | nsadmin | so you're not typing into the vm you rebooted... |
| 08:11.01 | superlinux2 | dont tell me you made /boot lvm? |
| 08:11.06 | mateusz | no |
| 08:11.09 | mordain | correct |
| 08:11.12 | nsadmin | what kind of virtualization are you using? |
| 08:11.16 | mateusz | superlinux2: /boot is /dev/sda1 |
| 08:11.28 | superlinux2 | ok cool |
| 08:11.32 | mateusz | superlinux2: everything else / and /home is on /dev/sda5 as lvm |
| 08:11.36 | mordain | virtual box runing on vista |
| 08:11.41 | nsadmin | we better start using nick: |
| 08:11.43 | superlinux2 | now your root must be the /dev lvm entry |
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| 08:11.49 | trupheenix | does power management work if my user is not part of powerdev? |
| 08:11.52 | mateusz | superlinux2: yes |
| 08:12.03 | superlinux2 | and lvm must run early |
| 08:12.08 | mateusz | superlinux2: exacly |
| 08:12.10 | superlinux2 | @ early stages |
| 08:12.20 | superlinux2 | that's all |
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| 08:12.33 | mateusz | superlinux2: when it fallsback I dont see that UUID in /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 08:12.41 | trupheenix | can anyone help me getting Dell Wireless Bluetooth 355 working? |
| 08:12.42 | mateusz | superlinux2: probably lvm is not activated |
| 08:12.49 | superlinux2 | i myself found not to boot on RAID or LVM |
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| 08:13.18 | mateusz | superlinux2: do you know how to fix it? |
| 08:13.18 | superlinux2 | just use them for normal storage. maybe your home folder or the like |
| 08:13.39 | superlinux2 | well.. boot stuff i do them face to face only |
| 08:13.43 | superlinux2 | not online |
| 08:13.56 | peterrooney | trupheenix: maybe. do you want it to have a minimum wage job, or lucrative contract work? |
| 08:14.13 | nsadmin | mordain anyway glad you got it going |
| 08:14.16 | mateusz | superlinux2: what to use from normal storage ? |
| 08:14.25 | mateusz | superlinux2: I am lost |
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| 08:14.41 | mordain | thanks |
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| 08:15.11 | trupheenix | peterrooney: rofl... =)) i'm broke. i use a run down laptop and free software |
| 08:15.16 | superlinux2 | i mean when you install. do a normal install simple one. but use LVM and RAID only on where you do backups and such |
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| 08:15.39 | superlinux2 | like make LVM and raid seperate |
| 08:15.42 | nsadmin | mordain: you should also take a look at your interfaces file if you haven't already |
| 08:15.47 | superlinux2 | it'll be always running |
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| 08:15.59 | superlinux2 | mateusz cool? |
| 08:16.11 | superlinux2 | like make your life simpler |
| 08:16.12 | mateusz | superlinux2: I dont use raid |
| 08:16.20 | superlinux2 | i understand |
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| 08:16.34 | superlinux2 | i am giving u a general rule |
| 08:16.43 | mateusz | superlinux2: actually I have my rootfs on lvm |
| 08:16.57 | mateusz | superlinux2: so its not booting because somehow new grub2 is not activating it |
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| 08:17.14 | mateusz | superlinux2: or wrong UUID is used |
| 08:17.44 | superlinux2 | if u think the UUID is wrong, how can u get the correct one? |
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| 08:18.45 | mateusz | superlinux2: I dont know it says that device with this UUID does not exist |
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| 08:19.07 | mateusz | valdyn: stil there? |
| 08:19.37 | mateusz | superlinux2: Can You do a favoure or me? |
| 08:19.51 | chazco | Hi... anyone know if dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw is available from any official apt source? |
| 08:19.56 | mateusz | superlinux2: I need debian.snapshot.org for older grub |
| 08:20.00 | superlinux2 | http://blog.mypapit.net/2008/04/linux-how-to-get-harddisk-uuid-number.html |
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| 08:20.58 | superlinux2 | mateusz do u still have the 1st debian DVD? |
| 08:21.45 | mateusz | superlinux2: ok so my UUID is correct |
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| 08:22.12 | mateusz | superlinux2: the problem then is that lvm is not being acctivated before it tries to mount it |
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| 08:22.36 | mateusz | when it fallsback to busybox complaining that given UUID does not exist |
| 08:22.44 | mateusz | its not in /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 08:22.55 | mateusz | however after lvm vgchange -ay |
| 08:22.57 | mateusz | it does exist |
| 08:22.58 | henhir | Hi there, ez-ipupdate only uses the ip from eth0 even though I tell it to use ppp0 in the config |
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| 08:23.20 | mateusz | superlinux2: that's why I am thinking vgchange -ya is not being executed |
| 08:23.40 | superlinux2 | ok! |
| 08:24.13 | superlinux2 | mateusz then talk that value to grub's config filr |
| 08:24.15 | superlinux2 | mateusz then talk that value to grub's config file |
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| 08:24.55 | nsadmin | grub1 also understands uuids |
| 08:25.09 | mateusz | superlinux2: that value is there |
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| 08:25.42 | mateusz | superlinux2: what I said or wrote is that its not in /dev/disk/by-uuids when rootfs is trying to mount it |
| 08:25.47 | mateusz | since rootfs is on lvm |
| 08:26.01 | nsadmin | mateusz: it's vgchange -a y |
| 08:26.22 | mateusz | nsadmin: I am in busybox in (initramfs) shell |
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| 08:26.36 | mateusz | nsadmin: so initramfs is found and /boot --> /dev/sda1 mounted |
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| 08:26.42 | mateusz | just / is not |
| 08:26.47 | mateusz | since its on lvm |
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| 08:27.15 | nsadmin | does busybox have a vgchange? or how do you run that? |
| 08:27.16 | mateusz | nsadmin: yes I did later vgchange -ya to run this weechat and come on IRC |
| 08:27.30 | mateusz | nsadmin: it has lvm |
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| 08:27.55 | nsadmin | oh, which is the binary that has the subcommands? |
| 08:28.01 | mateusz | nsadmin: yes |
| 08:28.11 | mateusz | nsadmin: lvm shell |
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| 08:28.28 | nsadmin | so you're able to activate the volume groups? |
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| 08:28.52 | mateusz | nsadmin: yes I chroot-ed and I am talking on IRC using fully mouted rootfs |
| 08:29.07 | mateusz | nsadmin: after starting some gettys |
| 08:29.26 | superlinux2 | then you need to add the commands you used in the startup scripts |
| 08:29.27 | mateusz | nsadmin: but I still cant start X and dont know how to ix this |
| 08:29.34 | mateusz | superlinux2: which scripts ? |
| 08:29.53 | superlinux2 | like the /etc/rc.d scripts |
| 08:30.07 | superlinux2 | don't you think so? |
| 08:30.15 | mateusz | superlinux2: for initramfs? |
| 08:30.24 | superlinux2 | yeah |
| 08:30.24 | mateusz | superlinux2: does initrams read them ? |
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| 08:30.50 | mateusz | superlinux2: ok you mean modiy initrd image ? |
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| 08:31.01 | mateusz | superlinux2: afaik its not easy task |
| 08:31.06 | superlinux2 | all i am doing is guessing based on your givens. 1st of all i have lost my mechine. i am using my memory. |
| 08:31.37 | superlinux2 | i am now on Fing windows |
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| 08:31.59 | mateusz | nsadmin: seems like initrd is broken and does not activate lvm |
| 08:32.45 | nsadmin | how big is your / |
| 08:32.55 | mateusz | nsadmin: big enough :) |
| 08:33.13 | nsadmin | so putting it on a non-lvm is probably out of the question? |
| 08:33.33 | mateusz | nsadmin: moving it out from lvm is not possible |
| 08:33.40 | mateusz | nsadmin: yes |
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| 08:33.56 | nsadmin | hmm. |
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| 08:34.00 | nsadmin | did this ever work? |
| 08:34.04 | mateusz | nsadmin: yes |
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| 08:34.09 | mateusz | nsadmin: with older grub |
| 08:34.14 | mateusz | nsadmin: I can downgrade grub |
| 08:34.26 | mateusz | the only change was upgrading it... |
| 08:34.28 | nsadmin | I'd do that |
| 08:34.49 | mateusz | yeah.. but I need snapshot or that |
| 08:35.16 | mateusz | and when I was looking the latest shanpshot or grub2 is from 2008 too old and has strange dependences |
| 08:35.23 | nsadmin | what's your /etc/debian_version? |
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| 08:36.03 | mateusz | nsadmin: squeeze/sid |
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| 08:36.14 | achilles | hello guys, I have installed a new router from new ISP for 1 week trial period, I'm looking for a tool, script or something that reports the bandwidth, internet speed along days automatically, can you help me finding some ? |
| 08:36.16 | nsadmin | hmm. |
| 08:36.40 | nsadmin | what you could do is build a package... you'd be foreporting grub1 from like lenny or etch |
| 08:37.00 | creature_ | achilles: well with bittorrent its pretty easy to test the maximum bandwidths |
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| 08:37.13 | nsadmin | or just build grub without building the package |
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| 08:37.44 | superlinux2 | achilles why not the gnome tools |
| 08:37.50 | achilles | creature_, thank you, but you know it's not scientific, I mean, after the trial period I have to decide, buy or not |
| 08:37.54 | superlinux2 | achilles why not the gnome plugins? |
| 08:38.10 | achilles | superlinux2, all are welcome, any suggestions please ? |
| 08:38.54 | superlinux2 | achilles there is also to try the wget, just to see the actual max bandwidth of an iso download |
| 08:39.27 | superlinux2 | CD download |
| 08:39.31 | mateusz | nsadmin: W: Failed to fetch http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/dists/pool/grub2/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found |
| 08:39.52 | mateusz | nsadmin: seems like something wrong with that mirror |
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| 08:39.56 | achilles | superlinux2, aha, but how can I need the change during the day, you know peak hours .. etc |
| 08:40.12 | superlinux2 | ok |
| 08:40.14 | mateusz | nsadmin: I am trying to to install it from those old snapshots |
| 08:40.16 | superlinux2 | got u |
| 08:40.51 | superlinux2 | achilles have you tried to search for network statistics? |
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| 08:41.54 | achilles | superlinux2, not so much |
| 08:42.08 | superlinux2 | in apt? |
| 08:42.59 | achilles | no, google :) |
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| 08:43.37 | superlinux2 | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=network+statistics&searchon=all&suite=stable§ion=all |
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| 08:43.53 | superlinux2 | google is the next step. ok? |
| 08:44.01 | superlinux2 | not the 1st step |
| 08:44.11 | superlinux2 | u may use webmin too |
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| 08:45.08 | achilles | thank you, let me search and return back |
| 08:45.11 | achilles | thank you again |
| 08:45.12 | cahoot | not in debian |
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| 08:47.08 | superlinux2 | cahoot of course |
| 08:47.28 | superlinux2 | but he has to learn, he belongs to #linuxac |
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| 08:47.55 | superlinux2 | i am one of them, but not many has experiance as in #debian |
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| 08:50.59 | ootput | #linuxac? |
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| 08:51.05 | superlinux2 | yes |
| 08:51.12 | cahoot | I fell slightly lost |
| 08:51.23 | cahoot | s/fell/feel/ |
| 08:51.27 | superlinux2 | linux arab community , linuxac.org |
| 08:51.55 | ootput | ah right |
| 08:52.01 | ootput | I found http://www.linuxac.org/forum/210399-post1.html |
| 08:52.02 | superlinux2 | linux is not that wide spread in the arab world |
| 08:52.17 | superlinux2 | i think in europe is very. |
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| 08:54.49 | superlinux2 | it's not that we are in lag in the I.T however they have been drunk with windows |
| 08:55.13 | superlinux2 | as in drinking boose |
| 08:55.19 | superlinux2 | as in drinking booze |
| 08:56.16 | superlinux2 | ootput and cahoot this is how things are. i am not saying i totally against windows. but i am not in favour of it in serious missions |
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| 08:57.19 | cahoot | superlinux2: seems you're preaching to the choir |
| 08:57.31 | superlinux2 | heh |
| 08:58.31 | superlinux2 | cahoot cos i am a masters of I.T. but i am just proud about it. not arrogant |
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| 09:08.05 | mateusz | superlinux2: I am back |
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| 09:09.00 | mateusz | Superbartt: in initramfs I dont see my uuid in /dev/disk/by-id/ |
| 09:09.13 | mateusz | Superbartt: I can see it only in mounted rootfs |
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| 09:17.24 | mateusz | Any help with downgrading grub2 ? |
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| 09:21.39 | mateusz | Where I can download older grub2 ? |
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| 09:25.20 | khaije1 | hello |
| 09:27.26 | khaije1 | i'm running lenny, but i'd like to have the other distro's available when explicitly requested, but it always wants to pull in all the updates from each... how do i pin each distro for this? |
| 09:28.10 | khaije1 | iow only lenny auto-updates, the others versions are static |
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| 09:30.18 | khaije1 | do i pin them all to 100 ? |
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| 09:32.59 | nkuttler | khaije1: use backports |
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| 09:39.06 | cadu_ | stew: hey! thanks for unbanning me and sorry for the inconvenience! being a good boy from now on! |
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| 09:46.44 | marco_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAvyEwEztLw |
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| 09:48.02 | malkkis | marco_: That's fast |
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| 10:02.54 | mateusz | Downgrading to older grub2 does not help |
| 10:03.03 | mateusz | This is what I get after booting http://pastebin.com/f3a0e4317 |
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| 10:03.53 | mateusz | As you can see this UUID does exist on chroot-ed system, while it does not on initramfs |
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| 10:04.05 | mateusz | Any help ? |
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| 10:05.35 | mateusz | Only grub2 was upgraded and since downgrading does not help I think it screwed something |
| 10:06.04 | geophoenix | did you tried to reinstall grub ? (not grub2) |
| 10:06.25 | P0rnflakes | hi |
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| 10:07.26 | mateusz | geophoenix: I never used grub |
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| 10:08.39 | mateusz | geophoenix: and it worked with grub2 before upgrade |
| 10:08.47 | mateusz | geophoenix: however downgrading does not help |
| 10:08.58 | mateusz | geophoenix: and it was the only package that I upgraded |
| 10:09.11 | mateusz | it screwed something imho |
| 10:09.27 | mateusz | geophoenix: This is my grub.cfg //pastebin.com/f1b6b507e |
| 10:11.35 | simonrvn | mateusz: sid? lenny? |
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| 10:12.52 | mateusz | simonrvn: sid |
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| 10:13.39 | Kopaczka | siemka, jak zablokowac komende apt-get userom? |
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| 10:23.10 | mateusz | simonrvn: still there? |
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| 10:23.39 | mateusz | simonrvn: I will try one more reboot i it fails... I'll try even older grub2 version |
| 10:24.06 | simonrvn | mateusz: yeh. ponddering. however, one thing that ocurred to me is if you had re-run the grub-install for the downgrade |
| 10:24.16 | simonrvn | pondering* |
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| 10:24.20 | simonrvn | meh |
| 10:25.08 | simonrvn | thinks his is FUBAR too |
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| 10:36.00 | mateusz | After upgrading only grub, I cannot boot, downgrading does not help. Packages that were upgraded are only grub-common, grub-pc, grub2. Errors are at the end of this log http://pastebin.com/f251f04d9 Any suggestions how to fix it ? |
| 10:38.29 | mateusz | Anyone here? |
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| 10:45.36 | kerr | i'm gonna install a fresh copy of debian over an old machine i've had offline for years, is it worth giving squeeze a go yet? |
| 10:46.21 | ethanw | kerr: im on a squid (squeeze/sid) install and i've not noticed any real issues. I dont know what its like security wise yet tho. |
| 10:47.39 | kerr | i'll give it a try then |
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| 10:50.30 | kerr | i vaguely remember not using that machine due to constant bombardment with driveseek errors :/ so it's not like i'm gonna give it anything critical to do |
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| 10:51.01 | ethanw | or anything critical to store by the sounds :) |
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| 10:51.44 | kerr | it seems to happen with every drive i put in it (old 2ghz sempron/ ide drives) :/ |
| 10:52.28 | ethanw | well thats a bit odd. Might have been a bad controller driver in the kernel |
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| 10:54.04 | phet | Hello, can I install nvidia graphic drivers using aptitude? |
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| 10:54.26 | ethanw | phet: do you mean the non-free ones? |
| 10:54.39 | phet | either |
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| 10:55.35 | ethanw | phet: well you can def install the free ones or the nvidia official drivers. Lemme dig up a good howto... |
| 10:55.41 | Wilhelmina | does anyone know about cinelerra installation/uninstallation problems? |
| 10:56.00 | rudi_s | ethanw: Do the free ones support 3D? |
| 10:56.27 | phet | and the non free? |
| 10:57.23 | rswarbrick | rudi_s: No. They do support some accelerated 2d (xv) and things are slowly getting better. If you want to use nouveau drivers, you probably need to be running unstable though. |
| 10:57.23 | ethanw | rudi_s: depends on your card |
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| 10:58.10 | rudi_s | rswarbrick: Thanks, what is name of the apt package of the drivers? |
| 10:58.16 | ethanw | rswarbrick: i thought there was some 3d for older cards? |
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| 10:58.56 | rswarbrick | ethanw: I believe not: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix. |
| 10:58.59 | gigo | if I use the nautilus write to disc feature to write files into a DVD+R, will I get multi session, i.e. write data again in the unused portion of the disc? |
| 10:59.53 | rswarbrick | rudi_s: It's not quite that simple, I don't thing (you need to use module-assistant). There's a writeup here http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/DebianInstall. I think it's reasonably in-date. |
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| 11:00.14 | rudi_s | rswarbrick: Thanks, I will have a look. |
| 11:00.27 | ethanw | phet: good howto for the non-free stuff http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:2xOqRi5GqfQJ:desiato.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html+nvidia+debian+howto&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk |
| 11:00.28 | rswarbrick | If things don't work, you might want to try grabbing the most recent drm and mesa from git and trying out your own... |
| 11:00.43 | phet | thanks |
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| 11:03.28 | gigo | if I use the nautilus write to disc feature to write files into a DVD+R, will I get multi session, i.e. write data again in the unused portion of the disc? |
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| 11:05.12 | ethanw | gigo: from memory no, but its been a while since ive used gnome |
| 11:05.19 | ethanw | so i could be wrong |
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| 11:05.40 | gigo | for command line tool what is usually used? cdrecord? |
| 11:06.00 | ethanw | gigo: yea thats the most common one |
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| 11:06.20 | ethanw | gigo: failing that you could use a diff GUI for it, there are a few around |
| 11:06.29 | gigo | example? |
| 11:06.45 | ethanw | gigo: k3b, xcdroast etc etc |
| 11:06.54 | gigo | from the description of my cdrecord package: This is a dummy package to ease the transition to wodim, the fork of cdrecord. It provides a cdrecord symlink to wodim for compatibility purposes. |
| 11:07.50 | gigo | can xcdroast write to DVDs too? |
| 11:07.51 | ethanw | gigo: well i didnt know it had forked. I don't tend to interact with it, I just use the k3b. I think that handles multisession fine |
| 11:07.59 | ethanw | gigo: I think so |
| 11:08.18 | cahoot | gigo: growisofs IIRC |
| 11:08.48 | gigo | cahoot, what is growisofs? |
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| 11:09.11 | cahoot | growisofs - combined genisoimage frontend/DVD recording program. |
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| 11:12.54 | Wilhelmina | hi |
| 11:13.03 | Wilhelmina | i am trying to remove cinelerra |
| 11:13.08 | Wilhelmina | and get this error |
| 11:13.12 | Wilhelmina | E: cinelerracv: subprocess post-removal script |
| 11:13.21 | Wilhelmina | returned error exit status 1 |
| 11:13.45 | Wilhelmina | does anyone know what this means and how to correct it? |
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| 11:14.50 | ethanw | wilhelmina: depends what it's being caused by |
| 11:14.58 | ethanw | have you tried doing a purge instead? |
| 11:15.17 | Wilhelmina | sadly - yes - several times |
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| 11:16.21 | Wilhelmina | some key lines of output are: |
| 11:16.45 | Wilhelmina | locale "en_US.ISO-8859-15" not in archive |
| 11:16.54 | Wilhelmina | locale "ru_RU.KOI8-R" not in archive |
| 11:17.06 | Wilhelmina | rm: cannot remove `/usr/bin/Cinelerra': No such file or directory |
| 11:17.30 | Wilhelmina | dpkg: error processing cinelerracv (--remove): |
| 11:17.30 | dpkg | wilhelmina: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 11:18.01 | rswarbrick | Wilhelmina: You could try the following hack: as root 'touch /usr/bin/Cinelerra'. But it probably won't remove the real binary on the uninstall, so do that yourself afterwards. |
| 11:18.14 | Wilhelmina | k |
| 11:18.17 | Wilhelmina | will try |
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| 11:18.24 | rswarbrick | (this makes a file for the dpkg uninstaller to remove and be happy about) |
| 11:18.50 | Wilhelmina | have to apologize - this is my first time using irc and first day of linux |
| 11:19.26 | rswarbrick | :-) Welcome then! |
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| 11:19.41 | Wilhelmina | getting rather depressed - been googling all day |
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| 11:20.35 | rswarbrick | Wilhelmina: As far as I can see, cinelerracv isn't an official debian package, so you can expect slightly dodgy packaging issues. Did my suggestion convince the uninstall script to exit happily? |
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| 11:20.51 | Wilhelmina | just a sec |
| 11:20.58 | Wilhelmina | only just finished typing it |
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| 11:21.52 | Wilhelmina | sorry but am still getting an error message |
| 11:21.57 | Wilhelmina | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:22.37 | Wilhelmina | really stupid but i dont know how to post pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 11:22.48 | Wilhelmina | never done it |
| 11:22.55 | renton_ | i ran in this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508383 which is the correct way to have networkmanager to continue to manage my eth0? |
| 11:23.21 | abrotman | Wilhelmina: we need all of the output |
| 11:23.26 | rswarbrick | Wilhelmina: What dpkg means is to use a website such as http://pastebin.com/ and paste your error messages (full output) there so we can have a look without overwhelming the channel. |
| 11:23.38 | abrotman | would say to use paste.debian.net |
| 11:23.41 | Wilhelmina | ah! ok |
| 11:25.14 | ethanw | bye all |
| 11:25.16 | renton_ | sorry, the real bug report i ran into is this: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg650910.html |
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| 11:26.15 | gigo | is gnomebaker the default CD writer on gnome? |
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| 11:27.44 | abrotman | gigo: i thnik so .. either that or brasero |
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| 11:28.49 | Wilhelmina | i pasted the whole output after trying to remove Cinelerra here: http://paste.debian.net/36951/ |
| 11:28.49 | abrotman | or maybe not .. |
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| 11:29.13 | abrotman | Wilhelmina: as root `touch /usr/bin/Cinelerra` |
| 11:29.23 | abrotman | Wilhelmina: you should really be asking #ubuntu |
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| 11:29.42 | gigo | unable to figure out how to do multisession burning in gnome baker. no menu option seems to be availab.e |
| 11:29.44 | Wilhelmina | i thought Cinelerra is a debian package? |
| 11:29.58 | abrotman | Wilhelmina: which version of linux are you using ? |
| 11:30.11 | Wilhelmina | 8.10 |
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| 11:30.31 | abrotman | right, that's ubuntu .. you should be getting ubuntu support in #ubuntu |
| 11:30.38 | Wilhelmina | ah |
| 11:30.42 | rswarbrick | Wilhelmina: Yeah, you're not running debian. |
| 11:30.42 | rswarbrick | But |
| 11:30.55 | Wilhelmina | sorry - i had assumed that it was a debian problem |
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| 11:30.58 | rswarbrick | If you just want the thing to work, have a look at line 72. |
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| 11:31.08 | abrotman | oh i see .. he already did that ... |
| 11:31.17 | abrotman | i'd probably reinstall the cinrella package .. then remove it |
| 11:31.22 | rswarbrick | The problem is that it's trying to remove files it thinks it installed but which don't already exist. |
| 11:31.26 | Wilhelmina | tried that too |
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| 11:31.42 | rswarbrick | abrotman: Problem is it'll try to uninstall the old version first. |
| 11:31.58 | Wilhelmina | tried uninstallationof everything to do with video |
| 11:32.09 | Wilhelmina | hope it would remove a problem package |
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| 11:32.15 | Wilhelmina | but no |
| 11:32.38 | rswarbrick | Wilhelmina: A silly (but probably sucessful) way to get there is just to keep trying to run apt-get remove and each time ensure files that rm expects to be there are there. They can be empty (what you get from using touch); that doesn't matter. |
| 11:32.39 | abrotman | for i in $(cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/cinelerracv.list) ; do touch $i ; done ? |
| 11:32.42 | Wilhelmina | avidemux etc |
| 11:32.47 | Wilhelmina | yes |
| 11:32.53 | rswarbrick | abrotman's suggestion is better than mine! |
| 11:33.03 | abrotman | but really should be asking #ubuntu |
| 11:33.11 | Wilhelmina | agree to that |
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| 11:33.22 | Wilhelmina | will ask anyone who knows |
| 11:33.45 | abrotman | or ##linux if #ubuntu doesn't know .. #debian is for people running Debian |
| 11:34.08 | Wilhelmina | i c |
| 11:34.18 | Wilhelmina | i thought it would be for anything debian |
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| 11:34.21 | Wilhelmina | sorry |
| 11:34.33 | Wilhelmina | not very "up" on what to do here |
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| 11:35.01 | abrotman | but the issue is that Ubuntu is not Debian |
| 11:35.56 | Wilhelmina | k |
| 11:36.07 | Wilhelmina | have opened up #ubuntu and asked |
| 11:36.10 | Wilhelmina | thanks anyway |
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| 11:36.41 | Wilhelmina | should i let you know if i find an answer? |
| 11:36.49 | gigo | can someone please help me with Gnome baker. can't see any option to enable multisession writing in a DVD. |
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| 11:37.01 | izua | how can I enable standby(sleep) and hibernation? |
| 11:37.10 | cahoot | Wilhelmina: the answer is debian ;) |
| 11:37.38 | geophoenix | izua, for hibernation you must install hibernate |
| 11:37.57 | Wilhelmina | :-D |
| 11:38.39 | izua | i did, at some point, but i'm looking for more info, maybe i did something wrong than apt-get install hibernate |
| 11:38.45 | izua | cause it can never resume. |
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| 11:42.06 | abrotman | gigo: i can't find it either .. |
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| 11:42.57 | geophoenix | izua , what does is show ? " swap signature / swapon failed " ( something like that) |
| 11:42.59 | gigo | abrotman, I have 0.6.4. In the content help, "Future" section I see that "multisession capability" is planned. |
| 11:43.18 | abrotman | gigo: did you try brasero ? |
| 11:43.27 | gigo | however http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnomeBaker says that multisession capability is present. |
| 11:43.30 | gigo | abrotman, no I didn't. |
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| 11:43.51 | abrotman | gigo: does the wiki say when they added the multisession support ? |
| 11:44.13 | gigo | no, they don't |
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| 11:45.43 | abrotman | gigo: hrm .. i'm guessing it's there |
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| 11:46.12 | gigo | abrotman, yes, i think the content help doc is very old. it's UI button names don't match with those of 0.6.4 |
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| 11:47.46 | varlon | hi, at a few day ago I gote last update for sid, now I can't run apt becouse have and error. apt tell me that I must run dpkg --configure -a. I call it and got an error: Building cpio /boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-1-686.new initramfs \n cpio: ./etc/udev/rules.d/libmtp.rules: Cannot stat: No such file or directory |
| 11:48.40 | varlon | I looking at /usr/sbin/update-initramfs, but didn't find any key for /etc/udev/rules.d/* |
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| 11:49.06 | varlon | I thinking problem with leading dot at path o ./etc/udev/* |
| 11:49.20 | varlon | where can I edit this path? |
| 11:49.23 | abrotman | did you check the BTS? |
| 11:49.32 | varlon | no |
| 11:49.45 | varlon | I don't know how and where can I get it |
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| 11:53.07 | abrotman | !btssmite varlon |
| 11:53.08 | dpkg | beats varlon around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if varlon is running testing or unstable |
| 11:53.32 | varlon | ok, thanks |
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| 11:54.07 | gigo | oh, I use testing. so I deserve a chainsaw beating too? |
| 11:54.23 | cahoot | seems rathe unpractical to beat someone with a chainsaw |
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| 11:54.38 | gigo | where will Debian pick up new code names from once all names of Toy Story has been used? |
| 11:55.02 | abrotman | gigo: toy story 2 ? |
| 11:55.03 | geophoenix | recycle ;p |
| 11:55.15 | creature_ | recycling is a bad idea |
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| 11:55.20 | cahoot | potato2? |
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| 11:56.39 | simonrvn | omg, no |
| 11:56.57 | nickgrey147 | debian lenny's cusion that wasnt actauly in the movie |
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| 11:57.12 | nickgrey147 | (2056 |
| 11:57.27 | creature_ | when debian runs out of names they will make Toy Story 3 just for that purose |
| 11:57.28 | gionn | gigo,they will start asking to Pixar to make the third Toy Story =P |
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| 11:57.37 | gionn | lol creature_ |
| 11:57.44 | abrotman | creature_: pixar already has that in the works .. |
| 11:57.54 | creature_ | see no worries ;) |
| 11:58.07 | abrotman | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435761/ |
| 11:58.08 | gionn | fantastic, so we don't risk to run out of release names. |
| 11:58.19 | abrotman | we haven't even gotten to TS 2 yet |
| 11:58.25 | geophoenix | recycling is a green idea |
| 11:58.25 | geophoenix | etch_v2 ;p |
| 11:58.25 | geophoenix | creature_ lol |
| 11:59.08 | geophoenix | true |
| 11:59.11 | Wilhelmina | rswarbrick: your solution worked. Thought you would like to know. Thanks! |
| 11:59.13 | pngwn | ` |
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| 11:59.49 | jvogel | Does anyone have experience here decrypting NTFS partitions in TrueCrypt via the command line? |
| 11:59.56 | nickgrey147 | Does any1 know how i can stop X on a single monitor ?? |
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| 12:01.22 | jvogel | nickgrey147: disable second monitor? |
| 12:01.32 | geophoenix | jvogel: i think does not format your volume in ntfs, only FAT, ext2 , ext2 ( ithink) |
| 12:02.04 | jvogel | geophoenix: What? |
| 12:02.12 | jvogel | geophoenix: The volume is already encrypted and is NTFS |
| 12:02.30 | jvogel | I know I can do it via gui |
| 12:02.35 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: i mean like have my other monitor in pure terminal no gui |
| 12:02.36 | jvogel | but this is CLI |
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| 12:02.53 | geophoenix | truecrypt --help |
| 12:02.53 | jvogel | nickgrey147: open terminal session lol? |
| 12:03.03 | jvogel | nickgrey147: using the virtual terminals are awkward... |
| 12:03.10 | jvogel | gnome-terminal would be much better suited |
| 12:03.11 | abrotman | that was helpful ... |
| 12:03.15 | jvogel | (for example) |
| 12:03.44 | abrotman | nickgrey147: how did you setup dual screens? can't you undo that? |
| 12:03.45 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: lol i know thats what iam doing now , i just dont see the point in the wasted cpu cycles |
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| 12:04.04 | jvogel | nickgrey147: :x, what desktop environment do you have? |
| 12:04.19 | nickgrey147 | abrotman: iam not trying to undo it just change it |
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| 12:04.26 | jvogel | keep in mind that its a terminal dude, its not killing your cpu here |
| 12:04.32 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: gnome |
| 12:04.39 | jvogel | i spend 50% of my time on my netbook in gnome-terminal |
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| 12:05.28 | xerophyte | how can i check if my cpu support 64bit? |
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| 12:06.06 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: no i mean i have 2 monitors both , majour compiz-fusion effects and all but the one monitor i only use for terminal so i want to stop the x session on that on monitor so that i can have terminal none gdm running typa situation if you know what i mean |
| 12:06.27 | abrotman | xerophyte: the cpuflags |
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| 12:06.54 | jvogel | nickgrey147: I know what you're doing |
| 12:07.07 | jvogel | But virtual terminals are awkward to use and are completely ineffecient |
| 12:07.20 | xerophyte | abrotman: these flag i have fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm |
| 12:07.24 | jvogel | Text is like huge |
| 12:07.27 | jvogel | and ugly |
| 12:07.28 | abrotman | xerophyte: you look for the 'lm' flag |
| 12:08.05 | jvogel | nickgrey147: imo if you're worried about cpu cycles, dont run gnome with all the crazy UI features |
| 12:08.18 | abrotman | dpkg: cpuflags is <reply>A list of cpuflags and their meaning: http://blog.incase.de/index.php/cpu-feature-flags-and-their-meanings/ |
| 12:08.19 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 12:08.28 | jvogel | nickgrey147: regardless though, i've sat here arguing with you unable to answer your question, i apologize lol |
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| 12:08.34 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: so i should stick to just opening up a fullscreen gnome-terminal on the other screen :P |
| 12:08.44 | jvogel | Yes imo its MUCH better |
| 12:08.54 | nickgrey147 | lol ok :P |
| 12:09.00 | jvogel | You can set it up just the way you like it |
| 12:09.13 | jvogel | Also add transparency and put background up |
| 12:09.19 | jvogel | which is what i like to do |
| 12:09.20 | nickgrey147 | my pc isnt realy slow so i gues iam just being fussy :P |
| 12:09.27 | jvogel | what are specs |
| 12:10.24 | nickgrey147 | amd 9750 , 4 gigs ram , and a 9600gt |
| 12:10.29 | jvogel | lol... |
| 12:10.35 | jvogel | gtfo |
| 12:10.42 | jvogel | its a shame for you not to run gnome-terminal |
| 12:10.43 | xerophyte | abrotman: thx |
| 12:10.53 | jvogel | now if you are also concerned about cpu cycles there are moer light-weight terminals too |
| 12:11.20 | jvogel | but jeez i run gnome-terminal on my netbook :p |
| 12:11.23 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: lol i just dont like gui's |
| 12:11.26 | xerophyte | abrotman: if i have 8G ram i need 64bit os or can i use the 32bit and make use of the 8G ram |
| 12:11.40 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: if i dont need one that is lol |
| 12:11.54 | abrotman | xerophyte: you can use 32bit and the 8GB .. see the -bigmem kernels |
| 12:12.07 | xerophyte | abrotman: thx |
| 12:12.14 | jvogel | Gnome-terminal is not really a "GUI" per-say, it's more of a facilitated CLI |
| 12:12.26 | OpenTokix | xerophyte: why not just go 64 bit? |
| 12:12.32 | jvogel | yea true that |
| 12:12.34 | jvogel | 64 bit is the future |
| 12:12.38 | jvogel | you are resisting change :( |
| 12:12.41 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: you have to run it on top of a gui tho :P |
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| 12:12.51 | jvogel | nickgrey147: fortunately you are already running one |
| 12:13.03 | geophoenix | is using 32-bit |
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| 12:14.05 | nickgrey147 | jvogel: yes , but if i had a way to stop it on one monitor and still b able to switch screens id only be half using it :) ive so lost the plot |
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| 12:16.24 | reber | hi all. Last kde upgrade seems to broke stuff. First, network is down everytime kde starts ... |
| 12:17.28 | nickgrey147 | reber: do u use the knetwork manager or do u edit the network/interfaces file ? |
| 12:17.36 | abrotman | !u |
| 12:17.36 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 12:17.49 | nickgrey147 | :0 |
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| 12:18.35 | reber | nickgrey147, no matter u or you is used, i understand ;) I use network/interface file. But knetwork seems to start with kde. I don't want to use it. |
| 12:18.53 | nickgrey147 | remove it :D |
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| 12:19.45 | NiLoni | !wud |
| 12:19.46 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 12:19.46 | reber | nickgrey147, killall knetworkmanager and restart kde is enough ? |
| 12:20.18 | NiLoni | !ne1 |
| 12:20.18 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s). |
| 12:20.43 | nickgrey147 | reber: get rid of it network managers are evil lol |
| 12:20.46 | NiLoni | didn't even know that ne1 :p |
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| 12:22.38 | nickgrey147 | reber: removeing it and rebooting might not even be enough to remove the taint in karma it has inflected on so many poor souls |
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| 12:24.53 | quitte | hi. i've got a couple of gconf values like /desktop/gnome/interface/monospace_font_name "Monospace 5". is there a nice tool to make those into an xml file that I can put in /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/ ? |
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| 12:35.39 | gigo | brasero DVD write is failing, can someone please help me. here are the logs: http://pastebin.com/m78be84e0 |
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| 12:37.30 | agaran | quitte: $EDITOR ? |
| 12:37.32 | quitte | BraseroGrowisofs stderr: genisoimage: Error: '/home/fossist/movies/Calvin and Hobbes/1991/ch910101.gif' and '/home/fossist/movies/Calvin and Hobbes/1991/ch910101.gif' have the same Rock Ridge name 'ch910101.gif'. |
| 12:38.09 | quitte | agaran: great. now where do i find a sample file that doesn't have all sorts of magic in it? |
| 12:38.28 | quitte | gigo: rename one of thos jpegs |
| 12:38.34 | quitte | err gifs |
| 12:38.35 | gigo | quitte, why? |
| 12:38.59 | quitte | gigo because the error tells you to. also you may want to write a bugreport |
| 12:39.37 | gigo | the logs say that they have the same rock ridge name. what does it mean? |
| 12:40.14 | quitte | gigo: i just noticed they seem to be the same file. check if there are two files of similar name but with different casing |
| 12:41.08 | agaran | quitte: you have already configured your desktop? |
| 12:41.13 | quitte | gigo: rockridge is a variant of the iso9660 filesystem. it may or may not support upper/lower case3 filenames |
| 12:41.20 | quitte | agaran: yes. |
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| 12:41.42 | gigo | why is it using rockridge? why not iso9660? |
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| 12:42.35 | quitte | gigo: rockridge an joliet are iso extensions that are compatible. long filenames and stuff. if the os you read the cd with doesnt support the extensions you will still be able to access the content |
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| 12:44.05 | E3b | hello.. how can I see who is connecting to my samba share folder? (like "open sessions" on windows os) |
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| 12:44.33 | agaran | quitte: i created simple file which might be loaded via gconftool-2 --import <file>, want it? |
| 12:45.08 | quitte | agaran: yes! |
| 12:45.10 | jvogel | hi is there like something that aconfig file that does stuff on shutdown in debian |
| 12:45.20 | jvogel | i.e. i see in gentoo wiki there is File: /etc/conf.d/local.stop |
| 12:45.27 | jvogel | i want to be able to stope truecrypt safetly on shutdown |
| 12:45.40 | agaran | quitte: http://pastebin.com/d434979d |
| 12:46.05 | abrotman | wonders where agaran went .. |
| 12:46.27 | quitte | abrotman: netsplit? i can see him |
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| 12:46.47 | josemoreira | hi all |
| 12:46.49 | quitte | agaran: thanks. how did you create that? with a simple text editor? |
| 12:46.57 | agaran | quitte: and more things like that might be created using gconftool-2 --dump /path, path might be found via --all-dirs / |
| 12:46.57 | josemoreira | do i need the full dvd's to instal ldebian? |
| 12:47.04 | abrotman | no |
| 12:47.18 | abrotman | josemoreira: if you have broadband and supported hardware, you can just use the netinst |
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| 12:47.33 | josemoreira | thats what i was thinking about |
| 12:47.43 | quitte | agaran: ah. so i can dump individual keys? can I dump multiple keys in a single file somehow? |
| 12:47.46 | agaran | quitte: i changed with vim, created using, gconftool-2 --dump /desktop/gnome/interface, cut half of xml file which i dont like to change, changed 1200 to 1000 and tried loading, works |
| 12:47.48 | josemoreira | but anyway i always wanted to know what all dvd's are for |
| 12:47.56 | agaran | quitte: yes --dump option of gconftool-2 |
| 12:47.58 | josemoreira | i know they include sources and etc |
| 12:48.13 | josemoreira | but can i use only dvd1 to install or i need them all? |
| 12:48.16 | quitte | agaran: ok. that should help a lot. thanks again |
| 12:48.18 | josemoreira | docs dont say anything about it |
| 12:48.21 | josemoreira | afaik |
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| 12:48.45 | agaran | abrotman: i left, too difficult to follow discusion for me, am not native speaker.. technical english isnt that hard but idioms and cassual speech is |
| 12:48.50 | abrotman | josemoreira: you can use just hte first DVD if you want .. it's basically for people that dont' have internet or a really slow internet |
| 12:48.50 | quitte | still i was hoping that i could export keys to a file with gconf-editor :/ |
| 12:48.58 | josemoreira | i see |
| 12:49.00 | agaran | quitte: no problem |
| 12:49.01 | abrotman | agaran: sorry |
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| 12:49.11 | josemoreira | and the others are sources? |
| 12:49.39 | abrotman | josemoreira: no .. they are more packages ... |
| 12:49.44 | abrotman | !dstats lenny |
| 12:49.47 | josemoreira | hum |
| 12:49.53 | josemoreira | !dstats lenny |
| 12:50.03 | abrotman | once was enough |
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| 12:50.28 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 23104 packages, 1932 maintainers, 59106 MB installed size, 20863 MB compressed size. |
| 12:51.50 | adb | abrotman: a cost stats exist ? |
| 12:52.09 | abrotman | cost? |
| 12:52.48 | adb | how much was spending to do it |
| 12:53.17 | adb | or so .. |
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| 12:53.31 | gigo | say, someone has found a bug but wants to raise a bug report later from another OS. he obviously doesn't have a reportbug tool in the other OS. how can he submit a bug? |
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| 12:57.08 | MrWax | Anyone in here experienced with encrypting the whole debian partition with truecrypt? |
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| 12:57.25 | nkuttler | !tell gigo about bts |
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| 12:58.53 | gigo | nkuttler, couldn't find an alternate way to file a bug. |
| 12:59.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | !tell MrWax about anyone |
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| 13:00.55 | nkuttler | gigo: "How to report a bug in Debian" is really hard to miss on their page |
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| 13:16.09 | reber | anyone with an eeepc here ? How is it for video (xvid) ? |
| 13:16.25 | reber | how is it with debian too (hardware supported etc) |
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| 13:19.07 | quitte | reber: wiki.debian.org has a page about the eee |
| 13:19.14 | reber | i know |
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| 13:21.35 | abrotman | there's also a channel for eeepc on oftc |
| 13:21.40 | abrotman | !eeepc |
| 13:21.40 | dpkg | The Eee PC (aka RM Asus Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by Asus. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> and are not supported in #debian. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1e>, <rt2860 eee>. #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 13:46.04 | MrWax | how can I jump to a certain screen number, for example number 20 ? |
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| 13:50.57 | quitte | i only got sound in tuxguitar using the tuxguitar-jsa package once. but as the sound on my laptop seems a little weird - does it work for anybody else using the sid packages? |
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| 13:55.27 | agaran | MrWax: ctrl-a :help ? |
| 13:55.45 | agaran | MrWax: and :select number? and ctrl-a number? have you tried reading screen manual? |
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| 13:59.23 | Zambezi | Is there any hope that dual monitor will work with Squeeze? Cause Xorg in Lenny can't even identify my graphiccard. |
| 13:59.47 | quitte_ | Zambezi: what card is that? |
| 14:00.37 | dimir | Dual monitor on Debian? |
| 14:00.42 | Zambezi | quitte_: A minute. I double check. |
| 14:00.47 | dimir | Is that a joke? |
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| 14:01.02 | quitte_ | dimir: no. it's nnot even hard, usually |
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| 14:02.09 | Zambezi | quitte_: Powercolor Radeon HD 2400 Pro 256MB DDR2 (PCI, not PCI-e). |
| 14:02.35 | quitte_ | dimir: even multiseat is doable:http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2007-03/msg00511.html |
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| 14:03.38 | quitte_ | Zambezi: thats a r600 |
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| 14:03.54 | Zambezi | dimir: You're saying it's easy peasy or not even possible? |
| 14:04.33 | dimir | Zambezi: I never tried it with penguin actually. :-) |
| 14:04.41 | Zambezi | quitte_: That's familiar. RV 610LE PC says lspci- |
| 14:04.50 | quitte_ | http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature |
| 14:04.53 | dimir | Zambezi: I think I have tried double monitor last time like 10 years ago on windows or so. :-D |
| 14:05.05 | quitte_ | according to that it should work. even with xrandr |
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| 14:05.34 | quitte_ | Zambezi: i can'T believe xorg didnt detect that card properly. can you paste the log? |
| 14:06.10 | Zambezi | quitte_: My computer is old so I got like 30-50 FPS in Nexuiz with my old Radeon. I got two with this card r600. |
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| 14:06.41 | quitte_ | Zambezi: 3d support is work in progress for that driver. but multihead is not 3d related |
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| 14:07.14 | Zambezi | quitte_: This is one line from Xorg: Identifier "Configured Video Device" |
| 14:07.38 | quitte_ | Zambezi: /var/log/Xorg.0.log use a pastebin |
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| 14:09.25 | Zambezi | quitte_: It's and old-file too. I don't know which you want? I have problem with Ratpoison, it's crashing from time to time. So log is huge. |
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| 14:11.09 | quitte_ | Zambezi: just dump it in a pastebin |
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| 14:18.06 | Zambezi | quitte_: http://www.pastebin.ca/1433011 Not the full though. |
| 14:19.03 | Zambezi | quitte_: I know about pastebin. I'm an antiflood-pitbull in another channel. ;-) |
| 14:20.05 | quitte_ | (--) Chipset RV610 found - so it does find and use the right driver |
| 14:20.24 | enouf | grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 14:21.21 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.24 | quitte_ | Zambezi: unfortunately the log is incomplete so I can'T tell you much about wether it detected both screens and xrandr support |
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| 14:21.46 | enouf | !radeon vs radeonhd |
| 14:21.46 | dpkg | The <radeon> project started under a non-disclosure agreement with ATI to develop <free software> drivers for Radeon graphics cards. In 2007, after ATI released its documentation, a second project, <radeonhd>, was started from scratch with a focus on newer hardware. Differences and similarities can be found at: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature and http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon#head-7b2a81f777639f8e12c9ac08a1e31d4c4bee9ef5 |
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| 14:21.53 | quitte_ | Zambezi: but have you actually tried the xrandr tools? no need to mess with the x config |
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| 14:22.28 | Zambezi | quitte_: I can give you both logs if I don't have to paste 20-30 lines at the time. |
| 14:22.36 | enouf | heh |
| 14:22.47 | enouf | reboot using vga=791 :-P |
| 14:23.25 | Sebboh- | Hi. Can I get a list of installed packages that don't exist in any of the enabled repos? |
| 14:23.40 | Zambezi | Oh, Vim do it. Soon you get a new link. |
| 14:23.43 | enouf | Sebboh-: apt-get autoclean > file |
| 14:24.05 | enouf | Sebboh-: as a crude way ... maybe use -s in there |
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| 14:25.04 | enouf | Sebboh-: if you also mean custom compiled stuff, then no, ..depends where it was installed to -- /home/* or /usr/local/ isn't touched via the pkg management |
| 14:25.36 | Zambezi | Is it possible to do > to Firefox instead? I can't select all text in nano and it first time I'm using Vim. |
| 14:25.38 | enouf | Sebboh-: i mean, you _could_ but requires some scripting, unless .. |
| 14:25.43 | quitte_ | I just double checked. both the radeon and the radeonhd driver should support multihead and xrandr |
| 14:26.01 | enouf | !dstats lenny |
| 14:26.16 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 23104 packages, 1932 maintainers, 59106 MB installed size, 20863 MB compressed size. |
| 14:26.24 | quitte_ | Zambezi: maybe install grandr arandr or something like that and play with it? |
| 14:27.06 | enouf | Zambezi: use a | via /msg dpkg pastebin pipe (info) |
| 14:27.08 | Sebboh- | enouf, I'll handle custom compiled stuff. :) What about packages that were installed with dpkg -i ..and don't exist in the repos? How can I identify them? |
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| 14:27.22 | enouf | Sebboh-: what i first mentioned |
| 14:27.42 | enouf | man apt-get |
| 14:28.53 | enouf | Sebboh-: for a list of all installed pkgs, there are various ways - /msg dpkg selections (amongst others) |
| 14:29.16 | enouf | but apt-get knows which .. so no need to compare lists |
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| 14:29.27 | Sebboh- | enouf, oddly, apt-get -s autoclean doesn't list anything. But I know that I installed some specific debs, but now that functionality is upstream, so I want to get back in sync with the real world :P |
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| 14:29.55 | enouf | Sebboh-: what version of apt? and which debian release? |
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| 14:30.48 | enouf | the man page tells you what the actual CONFIG option is to add ... you add it to /etc/apt/apt.conf (for older apt versions) -- IINM |
| 14:30.53 | Zambezi | quitte_: xrandr installed. Adding two more packages. |
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| 14:31.54 | Sebboh- | apt 0.7.21 for i386 compiled on Apr 14 2009 14:28:55 .. and squeeze. .. wtf, haha. Wrong system!! :) My term was ssh'd elsewhere.. :D Lemme try autoclean again on localhost. ;) |
| 14:32.11 | enouf | Sebboh-: i just upgraded, and updated - not more than a day or two - AND i ran autoclean recently .. and STILL, the command you posted spits out MANY pkgs |
| 14:32.15 | enouf | Del .. |
| 14:32.27 | enouf | Sebboh-: i'm on sid :-p |
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| 14:32.48 | enouf | not thousands, but 10s of pkgs |
| 14:33.15 | enouf | it even lists the Versions and the Sizes |
| 14:33.26 | enouf | Sebboh-: apt-get update prior! |
| 14:33.32 | enouf | heh |
| 14:33.49 | enouf | how would it know without updating the cache ... :-) |
| 14:34.23 | enouf | Zambezi: the URLs from /msg dpkg dual monitors might help |
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| 14:38.42 | Ergo^ | hi, is there a way to get a list of installed packages or something handy , to "mirror" installed packages on other machine ? |
| 14:38.55 | quitte_ | Ergo^: dpkg --get-selections |
| 14:39.18 | quitte_ | Ergo^: for moirroring you may want to dump the debconf selection, too |
| 14:40.01 | Ergo^ | quitte_: not sure i know what you are talking about im affraid |
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| 14:41.00 | Ergo^ | jsut want to have another box to have the same packages installed that i have here |
| 14:41.46 | enouf | !aptitude clone |
| 14:41.47 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
| 14:41.49 | Zambezi | quitte_: http://www.pastebin.ca/1433031 |
| 14:41.59 | Zambezi | enouf: Thanks. |
| 14:42.37 | enouf | Ergo^: conffiles will not be kept though ... so look into backing up /etc , /home ... and check into the etckeeper pkg? |
| 14:42.52 | Ergo^ | right :] |
| 14:42.53 | enouf | Zambezi: np |
| 14:42.54 | Ergo^ | thanks |
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| 14:43.57 | Zambezi | enouf: I have two almost similar monitors. It's same size, same resolution. One with VGA, the other with VGA+DVI. |
| 14:44.46 | enouf | cranks up some type-o-negative's cinammon girl o/ |
| 14:44.56 | Sebboh- | Enouf, hm. Uh, I might have missed something. apt-get -s autoclean doesn't report packages.. but apt-cache search linux-image shows a kernel image package that I'm pretty damned sure I didn't get from the squeeze repos.. apt 0.7.20.2 for i386 compiled on Feb 8 2009 00:40:41 .. Linux debxo 2.6.25.15 #165 Tue Nov 18 01:57:04 EST 2008 i586 GNU/Linux |
| 14:45.15 | enouf | (rendition of ... obviously Neil is the man) |
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| 14:45.54 | quitte_ | Sebboh-: everythingworks. two samsung syncmasters, right. just use some xrandr gui |
| 14:46.10 | Sebboh- | Not me, quitte_. :) |
| 14:46.12 | quitte_ | Zambezi: ^ sorry, Sebboh- |
| 14:48.13 | Zambezi | quitte_: I have Samsung Syncmaster 2343NW and 2343BW. |
| 14:48.38 | quitte_ | Zambezi: ok. want me to tell you their serial numbers? |
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| 14:49.47 | enouf | Sebboh-: your apt version is new enough - that kernel is pre-Lenny release, if it's even from Debian |
| 14:49.49 | Zambezi | quitte_: Ooh. I see. I know everything. :-D |
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| 14:50.00 | Zambezi | quitte_: s/I/you |
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| 14:51.11 | quitte_ | Zambezi: just trying to convince you that everything is fine and all you have to do is fire up a xrandr gui. this is all user configurable on the fly. no need to mess with any config file |
| 14:51.11 | Malle | hello i want to find out what motherboard my computer has, is there an easy way to find out besides opening up the box? |
| 14:51.18 | enouf | Zambezi: i only know where to point you to .. for possible docs/resolution - learning how to pluck relevant info from man pages and /usr/share/{pkgname/}*/doc/ is not something easily taught |
| 14:51.47 | Zambezi | quitte_: I tried that earlier, but I give it another go after Giro d'Italia stage. |
| 14:51.49 | Sebboh- | enouf, the kernel came from some guy in Finland. (not that one) ..This is an OLPC XO-1, and in the early days, some custom crap was required.. But now there are XO-1 specific pkgs in Squueze, so I'll use those. |
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| 14:52.26 | enouf | Sebboh-: righto - you mentioned you'd handle the _custom_ stuffs ;-) |
| 14:52.50 | enouf | Malle: lshal | grep smbios |
| 14:53.06 | enouf | Malle: if not; /msg dpkg what's my hardware |
| 14:53.42 | enouf | f~$ lshal | grep smbios |
| 14:53.44 | enouf | error: dbus_bus_get: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory |
| 14:53.48 | enouf | hahaha .. |
| 14:53.54 | Sebboh- | enouf, but it was delivered in the form of a .deb.. I still haven't been able to find a list of installed packages that didn't come from the repos I have in /etc/apt/sources.list.. |
| 14:53.54 | Zambezi | enouf: And that's tricky to understand manpage. I'll be back soon. Final part now on Giro. |
| 14:54.05 | enouf | i KILLED dbus SHIT ... some hours ago ;-) |
| 14:54.28 | enouf | amphi_: the k d e crap made me KILL IT! |
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| 14:54.45 | enouf | it works though .. i've used it many times in the past |
| 14:55.11 | enouf | Sebboh-: apt-cache policy pkgname? |
| 14:55.24 | enouf | Sebboh-: wait ... |
| 14:55.29 | enouf | !repo list |
| 14:55.40 | enouf | !repositories |
| 14:55.40 | enouf | shit |
| 14:55.48 | enouf | !which repo |
| 14:55.49 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory |
| 14:55.59 | enouf | Sebboh-: ^^^^ maybe? |
| 14:57.39 | Sebboh- | :) :) Thanks enouf |
| 14:58.11 | enouf | Sebboh-: so basically .. it's like you _could_ be doing a conversion of a debian-BASED system to a true debian.org one ... |
| 14:58.20 | enouf | ok |
| 14:59.21 | serfurj | i'm getting the following message when an encrypted lvm partition is being checked during boot: "fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdb2 [...]". but it's not in use. anybody know what the problem is? |
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| 15:00.09 | Sebboh- | enouf, yep, pretty much. |
| 15:00.26 | ajavid | good morning |
| 15:00.26 | serfurj | the partition is unmountable after boot as well. says, it's "already mounted" or "busy" |
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| 15:01.28 | enouf | Sebboh-: glad i was actually helpful to you this time ;-) |
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| 15:01.41 | enouf | Sebboh-: i am a very sincere person |
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| 15:01.53 | enouf | ajavid: fuck you! |
| 15:01.56 | Sebboh- | enouf++ |
| 15:01.58 | enouf | runs |
| 15:02.00 | enouf | :-) |
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| 15:02.12 | enouf | ajavid: ya know i'm joking ;-) |
| 15:02.17 | enouf | call me hon :-p |
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| 15:02.54 | enouf | Sebboh-: a sense of humor keeps us ... just breathing some times as well |
| 15:03.02 | enouf | well .. me anyway |
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| 15:03.45 | Sebboh- | the absolutely best thing that came out of this was aptitude search ~o ..the output of that is *exactly* what I needed... It shows some funky linux images and .. opera. :P |
| 15:04.05 | ajavid | hi |
| 15:04.32 | enouf | Sebboh-: listen - install aptitude-doc-en |
| 15:04.41 | enouf | so you might know these things |
| 15:05.26 | RaymondX | does anyone know of a 64-bit browser besides opera? |
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| 15:07.42 | Sebboh- | heh enouf. I refuse to believe that aptitude really exists. :P yay for apt-get :P |
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| 15:11.40 | Zambezi | Anyone with dual monitor who can take screen shot from grandr? Preferable with two seperate desktops. |
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| 15:13.10 | bookmark | whats up |
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| 15:13.30 | bookmark | does anyone know how to label a partition before it has a file system on it? |
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| 15:13.56 | leejongwook | hi |
| 15:14.07 | bookmark | whuduhp |
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| 15:14.24 | leejongwook | hi :) |
| 15:14.48 | leejongwook | what do i need to get to install Debian (?) |
| 15:14.51 | leejongwook | Download a minimal bootable CD image. <-- this ? |
| 15:15.15 | leejongwook | Download CD/DVD images with jigdo. <-- this ? |
| 15:15.35 | leejongwook | Download CD/DVD images using HTTP or FTP. <-- this ? |
| 15:15.43 | Sebboh- | On some of my systems less automagically does zless when given a .gz file.. How can I make that happen on this squeeze box? |
| 15:16.34 | leejongwook | what is live cd (?) so many of 'em |
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| 15:16.52 | leejongwook | hi |
| 15:17.01 | bookmark | live cds are for when you want to look at porn but not have it on your harddrive |
| 15:17.08 | Sebboh- | leejongwook, look for some link to the debian-installer page, and look for a daily-built image. Use the netinst or businesscard. *shrug8 |
| 15:17.27 | leejongwook | daily-build image :) thanks |
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| 15:19.08 | leejongwook | bookmark, are you the one of Debian user ? |
| 15:19.33 | bookmark | i use debian yep |
| 15:20.59 | leejongwook | you should use red hat if you wanna say like that |
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| 15:21.20 | bookmark | what? hahah man thats what the live cd purpose for |
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| 15:21.33 | bookmark | or to use while you're learning a real install i guess |
| 15:22.10 | bookmark | although i guess youre gonna get trash on your harddrive no matter where you visit any more |
| 15:22.28 | bookmark | but mostly only warez sites put porn ads |
| 15:22.32 | bookmark | if you aren't looking for it |
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| 15:23.32 | Sebboh | Well that laptop is dead now. So much for the reboot into the new kernel. :P |
| 15:23.32 | bookmark | i guess livecd is good for if you have windows software installed and you don't want to install linux heheh just to play with it |
| 15:23.32 | leejongwook | Sebboh, thanks again :) |
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| 15:26.16 | xoz | or you can use virtualbox to run debian in windows with decent speed |
| 15:26.56 | bookmark | most people have a bay that they could just put another harddrive for $25 |
| 15:27.06 | leejongwook | <-- Ubuntu User, want to move on to Debian, and Ubuntu Cd == Live CD |
| 15:27.22 | bookmark | leejongwook, get the netinst cd for debian |
| 15:27.31 | bookmark | or whatever |
| 15:27.36 | bookmark | get lenny |
| 15:27.52 | bookmark | lenny 5.0.1 don't get karmic koala |
| 15:28.03 | bookmark | oh wait that is ubuntu huh? |
| 15:28.09 | bookmark | well whatever |
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| 15:28.30 | bookmark | i'm outty |
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| 15:29.29 | leejongwook | crazy |
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| 15:31.36 | enouf | Sebboh: just so you are aware (although i admit, for certain versions, aptitude syntax certainly is much more concise) .. look at these two pkgs; grep-dctrl ; dctrl-tools .. then hit those man pages -- they also can search via Origin, etc |
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| 15:33.02 | enouf | bookmark should've stuck around |
| 15:33.07 | enouf | !customer |
| 15:33.07 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
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| 15:34.05 | enouf | you don't label a partition, you label a file system |
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| 15:34.42 | enouf | that expalins why only floppies contain volume labels, and no partitions |
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| 15:35.24 | luke | hi, does anybody know a good debian file system introduction. I don't feel very comfortable about many (sub)directories (e.g. /opt, /users, etc.) |
| 15:35.54 | enouf | the MPoop ID/Signature of an NTFS _can_ be contained in the 1st 440-446 bytes of the boot sector, if using typical msdos partition types |
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| 15:36.16 | enouf | !fhs |
| 15:36.16 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
| 15:36.35 | enouf | luke: also see linuxcommand.com |
| 15:36.39 | luke | thank you |
| 15:36.49 | quitte | i'm really beginning to hate gconf. I put this http://pastebin.ca/1433073 int /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml and it had absolutely no effect. even tried a completely new user |
| 15:37.01 | Sebboh | enouf, neat, I'll have a look at those. |
| 15:37.31 | Sebboh | btw, re: my laptop, turns out that those custom packages are still required. ;P trying to rescue the system and put them back now.. |
| 15:37.32 | orak3l | there were an update to nautilus 2.26 in squeeze, and now my harddrives are not more shown in the side pane. My drives are all mounted in /mnt/*** . with nautilus 2.20 everything was fine. any hints for me? |
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| 15:38.03 | enouf | quitte: i've _completely_ given up on any sort of DE |
| 15:38.13 | enouf | Sebboh: heh |
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| 15:39.21 | enouf | quitte: it's quite tiring having to bash BOTH (only xfce4 escapes due to less usage/whatever) MAJOR DEs |
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| 15:40.20 | enouf | you people really should know about pstree and pstree.x11 |
| 15:40.37 | enouf | use the -lunap options for a real show |
| 15:40.55 | quitte | enouf: haven't looked at kde since woody. so i have only gnome as a problem. and i mostly like it. but gconf user documentation is horrible |
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| 15:41.46 | enouf | quitte: when i really like something, and i have some expertise, i try to help out |
| 15:42.07 | enouf | quitte: isn't gconf-editor the thing now? now friggin clue though |
| 15:42.26 | enouf | quitte: a Redmond-like registry and XML scares me |
| 15:42.51 | enouf | quitte: trust me - do NOT look at kde |
| 15:43.02 | quitte | enouf: except on this install it refuses to set system wide defaults and i have no idea how to enable that. and even if i did - how would i dump the config changes and put them in a new install? |
| 15:43.23 | blouf_ | stop using what ur using :p |
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| 15:43.51 | quitte | still the only way i know how to do it is make a debian package and let debhelper register the gconf defaults |
| 15:44.08 | quitte | but it _must_ be possible to just drop a file in etc, no? |
| 15:44.25 | blouf_ | quitte: why don't u use the gconf-editor ? |
| 15:44.31 | enouf | quitte: _nothing_ within ANY of the DEs works properly ... i'm on Sid |
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| 15:44.57 | quitte | blouf_: i don't have permission to change system wide defaults. and if i had them, how do i get those on another machines? |
| 15:45.03 | enouf | quitte: i really want to help .. but i .... give up ... really |
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| 15:45.24 | enouf | quitte: i am King .. and it's still broke ;-) |
| 15:45.42 | quitte | well being noisy about issues sometimes helps ... |
| 15:45.59 | quitte | also i really want to learn about this. after all gnome is the de of my choice. |
| 15:46.00 | enouf | quitte: it's called Framework and Coding mentality that only the most stupid people with the most money have |
| 15:46.00 | blouf_ | quitte : u mean using personnal gconf setting ? |
| 15:46.05 | enouf | sad .. really |
| 15:46.38 | quitte | blouf_: no. i want site wide defaults that are set at install time |
| 15:46.40 | enouf | quitte: you do NOT want to learn about how the sordid DEs work .. trust me |
| 15:46.43 | Zambezi | quitte: I tried now, but when I start grandr, off is marked. When I enables it, the list of settings is empty. |
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| 15:47.06 | quitte | install grandr |
| 15:47.13 | enouf | ... |
| 15:47.13 | blouf_ | quitte: at install time ? well, change the default config file in the packag |
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| 15:48.06 | enouf | quitte: remember, .. that other person is using u to reperesent you |
| 15:48.46 | enouf | notes; not a language barrier attack in ANY way shape or form |
| 15:48.51 | quitte | enouf: huh? |
| 15:49.01 | enouf | goes |
| 15:49.24 | quitte | Zambezi: can you disable the auto box? |
| 15:49.37 | luke | enouf: what is this site about: linuxcommand.com? |
| 15:49.40 | quitte | enouf: was that supposed to be philosophical? or just confusing? |
| 15:50.08 | adb | quitte: used gnome-control-center ? |
| 15:50.22 | Zambezi | quitte: When I mark Auto instead and save, quit it still set to Off after I start it again. |
| 15:50.25 | enouf | quitte: just ignore me .. i'm afk now |
| 15:50.35 | quitte | ok. could everybody that doesn'T understand what im trying to do please stop helping? |
| 15:50.47 | enouf | luke: one moment |
| 15:50.58 | hark | luke: try the .org |
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| 15:51.06 | quitte | Zambezi: are there two outputs in the left column? |
| 15:51.18 | enouf | luke: sorry! it's linuxcommand.org |
| 15:51.21 | Zambezi | quitte: Yes. They are correct. |
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| 15:51.34 | enouf | !pony hark |
| 15:51.34 | dpkg | gives hark a pony |
| 15:51.38 | quitte | Zambezi: ok. try moving them in the layout tab. |
| 15:51.52 | luke | thanks! now, it looks better |
| 15:52.00 | quitte | Zambezi: just play with it for a while. i'd really be surprised if it doesn'T work at all |
| 15:52.11 | enouf | "looks better" .. the bane of all my pr~n :-P |
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| 15:52.43 | Zambezi | quitte: Moving DVI to the left and okay says: "User set screen size larger than max screen size". |
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| 15:54.17 | quitte | Zambezi: ouch. ok that I've seen before. but thatwas with onboard graphics that actually didnt have enough ram for the combined resolution |
| 15:54.52 | Zambezi | quitte: Grapicram then? |
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| 15:55.51 | quitte | http://lists.opensuse.org/radeonhd/2007-12/msg00510.html |
| 15:56.01 | quitte | Zambezi: i doubt it. rather some driver limitation |
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| 15:56.37 | Sebboh | Hi. What's a good network manager to use, that works on the console? Requirements: this is a laptop, so I'd like to be able to power up, see available access points, and connect to one of them, and provide a key if I have one. Bonus if there's a little gui thing that I can use in awesome window manager, but primarily it needs to work on the console. |
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| 15:56.39 | quitte | Zambezi: if there is not only the radeonhd but also the radeon driver in debian maybe try that? |
| 15:57.40 | Zambezi | quitte: As I said, 2 FPS in Nexuiz. I hade at least 30-40 FPS with old card (Radeon 92xx something), but that don't support my two monitors with full resolution.. |
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| 15:58.54 | Zambezi | quitte: Is it to any help that the mplayer windows is like equal to a A5-paper in full screen? |
| 15:59.02 | dustybin | does anybody here run debian on a stinkpad? |
| 15:59.34 | quitte | Zambezi: there are two xserver-xorg-video packages in sid that work with your card. that probably applies to lenny, too |
| 15:59.59 | quitte | set the driver to radeon in the device section and give it another try |
| 16:00.20 | quitte | Zambezi: right now it uses radeonhd |
| 16:00.35 | Zambezi | quitte: xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd. Debug on both too. |
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| 16:02.46 | fenh1r | anyone has knowledge about externel raid0-controllers here? or in which channel i should go with it |
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| 16:03.54 | fenh1r | i would like to have some info about short stroking with raid0 |
| 16:04.40 | Zambezi | quitte: A minute and I show you my xorg.conf. |
| 16:05.02 | quitte | is that for circumcised raid or something? |
| 16:05.24 | fenh1r | what is circumcised? sorry not english native-speaker |
| 16:05.33 | fenh1r | http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/magazineFeature/0,296894,sid5_gci1258827,00.html |
| 16:06.13 | Sebboh | fenh1r, that was a joke, don't worry about it. :) |
| 16:06.36 | quitte | i'd still like to know what short stroking is |
| 16:06.40 | Zambezi | quitte: My so specified Xorg conf: http://www.pastebin.ca/1433091 |
| 16:06.48 | fenh1r | quitte: look at link |
| 16:07.38 | fenh1r | and yes it is something like circumcise a hdd... to get more performance |
| 16:07.46 | quitte | Zambezi: ad this to the device section : Driver "radeon" |
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| 16:08.45 | fenh1r | anyone knows a channel for questions about hardware-raid0? |
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| 16:09.07 | d34df00d | Hi there! |
| 16:09.08 | Wulf_ | Hi. What's the right install CD for a core2duo system? debian-501-ia64-CD-1.iso? I wonder why it's not seeded in bittorrent |
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| 16:09.31 | d34df00d | I'm trying to build my own .deb packages and wonder how to put there the postinst script. |
| 16:09.47 | d34df00d | I've read the official guide and now know how to write them. |
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| 16:09.58 | d34df00d | But still no idea how to feed them to the .deb-building system. |
| 16:10.26 | nkuttler | d34df00d: which building system? |
| 16:10.47 | d34df00d | nkuttler: debhelper. |
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| 16:11.55 | enouf | and some fucken ASSHOLE really broke alsa ... bad |
| 16:12.45 | nkuttler | d34df00d: should be covered in new maint guide or policy i guess |
| 16:12.54 | quitte | enouf: they did? how? i'm having trouble with my aspire one. it doesn't properly autoconf the sound.and i'd like to know if that is related |
| 16:13.04 | enouf | maybe i'm just a shithead for thinking i can pump some audio out from an audio card into 130w per |
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| 16:13.32 | d34df00d | nkuttler: is it http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ or something else? |
| 16:13.36 | enouf | quitte: yes, it happened since alsaconf was removed - i'm sure there are/were many other changes |
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| 16:14.10 | d34df00d | Ah, seems like it's http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 16:14.16 | enouf | quitte: i gotta go - or i'll wreck everything in here ... this is just stupidity run amuck |
| 16:14.25 | quitte | enouf: good. then i won't make any permanent changes because of that |
| 16:14.35 | quitte | enouf: haha. |
| 16:14.56 | enouf | quitte: remember, it's my experience, not everyone has the same ... and rightly so |
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| 16:15.23 | enouf | tries to sound half-sane ;-0 |
| 16:16.23 | Zambezi | quitte: Now time to kill X. Brb. |
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| 16:19.39 | d34df00d | And I build many debs from one source base, and almost all of them depend on another one (it's a core of an application and its plugins). |
| 16:20.14 | d34df00d | What would you suggest about 'copyright' file in the /usr/...? In the plugins' debs it can be a symlink, right? |
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| 16:21.06 | Zambezi | quitte: I tried both radeon and radeonhd. No difference playing video and it won't save changes either. |
| 16:21.14 | quitte | d34df00d: #debian-mentors or #debian-mentor on oftc is a more fitting channel |
| 16:22.05 | quitte | Zambezi: ok. it seems you not only worry about multihead but also about acceleration. maybe you should use the non-free fglrx drivers? |
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| 16:24.35 | d34df00d | quitte: what server is that? Here on ##debian-mentors there are only 2 users. |
| 16:24.54 | quitte | d34df00d: irc.oftc.net |
| 16:25.17 | Zambezi | quitte: Already installed and kernelmodules, but no reboot yet. |
| 16:25.32 | quitte | Zambezi: why would you reboot? |
| 16:25.56 | d34df00d | quitte: thank you. |
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| 16:26.59 | quitte | Zambezi: so basically just use fglrx as driver in the device section |
| 16:27.02 | Zambezi | quitte: I installed new kernel, but it more a bad old habbit since Windows. |
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| 16:28.15 | Zambezi | quitte: Xorg is not my area so thanks alot for help so far. |
| 16:28.29 | fenh1r | ok, back here.... #hardware doesnt know that much about hardware-raid ;) |
| 16:29.09 | fenh1r | so the question is: which controller in an external box with xSATA/eSATA 3GBits/s can raid0 the short stroked part but dont wastes the rest of the hdds and can use the rest as normal hdd or raid1? all this for 2 to 5 SATA-drives. |
| 16:29.16 | quitte | fenh1r: how are you going to connect that external raid controller? |
| 16:29.31 | quitte | ah |
| 16:29.34 | fenh1r | xSATA/eSATA |
| 16:30.06 | fenh1r | maybe SAS |
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| 16:30.28 | fenh1r | but it is a question of money, too :) |
| 16:30.47 | quitte | fenh1r: afaict short stroking doesn't make any sense if you are going to use the remaining part of the disk. the short stroked part will get a performance loss everytime the other part is accessed anyways |
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| 16:31.12 | fenh1r | quitte: the other part is accessed only seldom |
| 16:31.17 | quitte | (also i can't believe it's possible to talk about short stroking without the channel filling up with jokes) |
| 16:31.31 | fenh1r | lol |
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| 16:31.41 | Zambezi | quitte: No difference either with fglrx instead. |
| 16:31.45 | quitte | fenh1r: then all raid controller should be able to do it if you can manually select the partitioning |
| 16:32.03 | quitte | Zambezi: not even with the video acceleration? |
| 16:32.49 | fenh1r | quitte: and thats the part... i have seen only external raid-controllers, which use the whole disk... IIRC |
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| 16:33.40 | quitte | fenh1r: just use software raid. it's not like striping causes a significant hit on the hosts cpu. |
| 16:33.50 | Zambezi | quitte: No, but lsmod seems a bit empty. Nothing with ati, radeon, fglrx. |
| 16:33.54 | fenh1r | with linux and md-devices it should be doable... but i dont know which external controller does it |
| 16:34.29 | quitte | Zambezi: hmm. so maybe fglrx is too stupid to load the module. have a look at the one-liner again and show me the current log |
| 16:36.04 | fenh1r | quitte: i dont want to rely on the os... so software-raid is no alternative |
| 16:36.05 | quitte | fenh1r: oh. i think it is impossible for an external controller to handle the partitioning |
| 16:36.16 | quitte | after all the raid controller behaves as a single disk |
| 16:36.33 | quitte | you can't connect multiple disks to a single sata port |
| 16:37.05 | fenh1r | quitte: really? |
| 16:37.12 | fenh1r | argh |
| 16:37.19 | quitte | fenh1r: so just use any external raid controller and measure the speed of the partitions to decide which to use for best performance |
| 16:37.44 | fenh1r | but then still all is raid0 |
| 16:37.48 | Zambezi | quitte: Maybe run the command dkpg gave me. m-a something. |
| 16:38.06 | fenh1r | i just want the performance-part to be raid0 |
| 16:38.21 | quitte | Zambezi: that shouldn'T be necessary if you already installed the fglrx modules for your kernel |
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| 16:38.52 | quitte | fenh1r: then it can not work with a sata connector |
| 16:39.10 | fenh1r | .oO(argh) |
| 16:39.30 | fenh1r | which alternative |
| 16:39.32 | fenh1r | ? |
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| 16:40.09 | quitte | fenh1r: plain old software raid? or a decent controller that does raid 6 and get both, reliability and performance? |
| 16:40.16 | fenh1r | can linux md-devices "exported" as eSATA? |
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| 16:41.36 | fenh1r | ok, i understand the problem of not being able to connect more than one hdd with eSATA to the os |
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| 16:42.45 | fenh1r | is it possible with an external controller do "export" the drives as one hdd, but with different partitions? one partition should be raid0 the other not |
| 16:43.09 | Thomaschaaf | Hey is there a way to set ssh so it only doesn't allow root if there is no ssh key used? So that if I have an ssh key I can log in as root? |
| 16:43.34 | fenh1r | or is this all not doable with eSATA and in need a NAS or something like that? |
| 16:43.34 | Decepticon | im a stats junkie what can i install on my masheen to get all statistical up in this? i got munin for nice graphs and saidar for system specs, what else can it crunch up and spit? |
| 16:43.48 | Thomaschaaf | for things like sftpdrive I love to log in as root |
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| 16:44.19 | \amethyst | Thomaschaaf: PermitRootLogin without-password in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 16:44.30 | \amethyst | Thomaschaaf: you can also do PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only |
| 16:44.42 | quitte | hmm. i've never thought about it. and i somehow doubt that sata allows controller to controller connections. otoh it's basically scsi.... |
| 16:44.53 | quitte | fenh1r: if you find out please tell me |
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| 16:45.15 | sha | how do you set a FQDN? i tried several entries in /etc/hosts , but hostname -f always says "hostname: Unknown host" |
| 16:45.17 | quitte | fenh1r: maybe it actually is possible after swapping the data lines in the cable or something along those lines |
| 16:45.24 | Thomaschaaf | \amethyst: what does the second option do? |
| 16:45.47 | Zambezi | quitte: No, still 1/9 off the screen. That's the biggest the picture go. |
| 16:45.52 | ajavid | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4964350866346165428 |
| 16:46.04 | \amethyst | Thomaschaaf: it allows root to login with pubkey, but only if root's authorized_keys specifies a command to execute for that pubkey |
| 16:46.05 | ajavid | Debian: Anatomy of an Open Source Project - Ian Murdock |
| 16:46.06 | quitte | Zambezi: log, please |
| 16:46.16 | ajavid | Great video, about the philosophy/history/stuff about Debian |
| 16:46.23 | Zambezi | quitte: The first I showed you? |
| 16:46.26 | \amethyst | Thomaschaaf: man sshd_config and also man sshd for information on how to force a command with authorized_keys |
| 16:46.36 | quitte | Zambezi: no, the current one when using fglrx |
| 16:46.38 | ajavid | Why he made debian, how it started, the initial design process, policy, etc. etc. |
| 16:47.22 | fenh1r | quitte: ok, then i first have to find out if this is possible at all. thank you |
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| 16:47.47 | spal | I am using Squeeze. A reportbug GUI launches when I run reportbug from shell. How do I get back the old console based reportbug? |
| 16:47.48 | \amethyst | sha: put the FQDN in /etc/hostname |
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| 16:48.31 | fenh1r | but you are right... it doesnd sound logical to connect more drives for the os with just one eSATA-cable |
| 16:49.07 | \amethyst | sha: do you have a static address? |
| 16:49.09 | fenh1r | maybe there is acontoller which serves two eSATA-ports for this... i have to find out |
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| 16:49.32 | sha | \amethyst: ah..works..thank you very much |
| 16:49.45 | Zambezi | quitte: The /var/log/Xorg0.log ? |
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| 16:50.17 | quitte | Zambezi: yes |
| 16:50.43 | Zambezi | quitte: Latest line on the top or bottom? |
| 16:51.03 | quitte | Zambezi: all of it. you can upload files to pastebin.ca ... |
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| 16:51.47 | Zambezi | quitte: But I can't select all text at the same time. And I wasn't sure earlier what enouf meant. |
| 16:52.09 | quitte | has there ever been a driver that made a scsi controller look like a harddisk to the rest of the bus for linux? |
| 16:52.28 | quitte | Zambezi: just upload the whole file instaed of pasting |
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| 16:53.08 | fenh1r | but NAS is not so good... it will get expensive to get the 3 GBit/s of SATA out of it... minus the overhead for IP |
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| 16:53.39 | Zambezi | quitte: Not ideal. Can I send the link in PM? |
| 16:53.47 | quitte | Zambezi: sure |
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| 16:54.56 | Zambezi | quitte: We can keep talking here. Confirm when it's downloaded. |
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| 16:56.13 | fenh1r | i am confused now... isnt SATA the sucessor of SCSI? but with SCSI it was possible to plug more drives to one cable... isnt this possible for eSATA? |
| 16:56.47 | quitte | Zambezi: it is still using the radeonhd driver. which makes me assume that you never actujally used the radeon driver |
| 16:57.24 | adb | !tell fenh1r about SATA |
| 16:57.31 | Zambezi | quitte: Thanks. And as you can see mplayer window is 500x-something. My full resolution is 2048x1152. |
| 16:57.33 | fenh1r | *g* |
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| 16:58.57 | quitte | fenh1r: use wikipedia to compare sas to scsi |
| 16:58.59 | fenh1r | ad: a doesnt help _directly_ |
| 16:59.13 | Zambezi | quitte: Xorg.conf http://www.pastebin.ca/1433122 |
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| 16:59.56 | fenh1r | ok, so SATA is just point2point? |
| 16:59.57 | quitte | Zambezi: identifier is a name you give to the device. driver is to select the driver |
| 17:00.05 | quitte | fenh1r: yes |
| 17:00.09 | Zambezi | quitte: I bought the monitor three months ago. Still haven't dealt with it. I hate doing this Xorg. |
| 17:00.11 | fenh1r | argh |
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| 17:01.00 | quitte | Zambezi: do you undersdtand how to change your config now to use the radeon driver? |
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| 17:01.03 | Zambezi | quitte: So line 19? |
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| 17:01.22 | quitte | or fglrx. but i'd try radeon first as i doubt that fglrx has proper randr |
| 17:01.50 | fenh1r | and there is no eSATA-hub or something similar? |
| 17:02.16 | quitte | Zambezi: 31.5 add a line : <<Driver "radeon">> |
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| 17:02.52 | drith | someone tell me the path to -> httpd.conf (apache2.2) default installation from debian repository |
| 17:03.47 | quitte | Zambezi: just in case: 31.5 is between 31 and 32 |
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| 17:04.32 | fenh1r | but ok.. that istnt the problem.. just a eSATA-port mor for the pc... but the external raid-controller with more than one eSATA seems to be a problem |
| 17:04.45 | Zambezi | quitte: I understood that. I'm changing back to default atm. fglrx to Configured jada jada. It's not good having to opposite things. |
| 17:05.42 | drith | uff it is in /etc/apache2 |
| 17:05.51 | quitte | fenh1r: there is no difference between external and internal ports. just find an adapter that moves the internal ports outside |
| 17:06.25 | jelly-home | drith: zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/README.Debian.gz |
| 17:06.30 | fenh1r | quitte: yes. understood that. as said... this isnt the problem |
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| 17:08.06 | quitte | fenh1r: just throw more disks at raid6 and have both the performance and the reliability, as i said earlier.then all you have to find is a controller that can saturate the 3Gb with raid6 and you're done |
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| 17:08.58 | quitte | has been bitten by raid5 |
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| 17:10.06 | jelly-home | fenh1r: external sata enclosures have hub-capabilities |
| 17:10.06 | mint | hello, im looking for deeper documentation about apt*... i need to know how it works without doing reverse eng... |
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| 17:10.32 | mint | what i've found so far is about Packages.gz, which is the repo index |
| 17:10.50 | mint | but i dont know how is the parsing of it |
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| 17:10.59 | mint | what are the rules of sources.list |
| 17:11.02 | mint | etc |
| 17:11.09 | mint | where can i find some clearance |
| 17:11.10 | fenh1r | quitte: hmm ok. but i thought this short sparing to be a good idea... if i get the 3 GBit/s out of a normal raid... its ok.. but there is the latency, too |
| 17:11.14 | mint | ? |
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| 17:11.58 | quitte | fenh1r: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:11.59 | jelly-home | fenh1r: ... the expensive ones do, at least. google for "port multiplier" |
| 17:12.21 | pappanz_ | hello. my laptop built-in microphone doesn't work. how can i fix this? |
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| 17:13.30 | fenh1r | quitte: ok, from the beginning... external box with eSATA... short stroking for performance... raid0 those short stroked drives... but dont waste the reast of the hdds |
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| 17:14.46 | quitte | fenh1r: right. why? what kind of data is so performance critical? and if it is, why don't you use internal sas raid? |
| 17:15.19 | babilen | mint: you might want to have a look at the debian reference, new maintainers guide and the aptitude source code... |
| 17:15.20 | fenh1r | with short stroking the average sector seeking should be half the time of using the whole disks |
| 17:15.42 | fenh1r | quitte: its unimportant for which data |
| 17:16.02 | fenh1r | and no internal, becouse i want tro seperate pc from hdds |
| 17:16.06 | quitte | ah. the collection. |
| 17:16.14 | fenh1r | :) |
| 17:17.00 | babilen | mint: but i am not sure if that covers your questions. if in doubt i am sure daniel burrows can answer all your questions, given that he is willing/able to spare the time |
| 17:17.10 | mint | babilen, yes i think that's true... will keep looking |
| 17:17.33 | quitte | you want fast cheap and silent. select any 2 |
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| 17:18.03 | jelly-home | mint: no need for reverse engineering, the thing is open source. |
| 17:18.13 | Zambezi | quitte: Okay, now things happened. I added without <<>> cause it looked odd, no difference. Adding them, kdm won't start. So fglrx now instead. kdm is started, but won't show up. |
| 17:18.32 | mint | babilen, thx |
| 17:18.46 | mint | jelly-home, i mean, with source code, try to figure out the whole picture |
| 17:18.58 | eikenberry | Anyone know why util-linux seems stuck in experimental? Do 2.14 and 2.15 have issues? |
| 17:19.23 | babilen | mint: the aforementioned documentation and the apt-get/aptitude source code is available as debian package... |
| 17:19.30 | mint | what i'm trying to do is something like a tiny ruby "lib" to query apt repos |
| 17:19.43 | mint | oh that's good |
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| 17:21.05 | mint | this lib should have the ability to solve dependencies and i want to know better how it works |
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| 17:21.26 | spal | I am using Squeeze. A reportbug GUI launches when I run reportbug from shell. How do I get back the old console based reportbug? |
| 17:21.45 | babilen | mint: the debian policy covers all the control files: http://debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html |
| 17:22.09 | rudi_s | spal: Add 'ui text' (without quotes) to ~/.reportbugrc |
| 17:22.13 | jelly-home | mint: why are you reinventing this? |
| 17:22.31 | eikenberry | There are 2 RC bugs against util-linux... but they are both against the version in lenny. |
| 17:22.54 | v4nelle | guys,what happend on dnome-core on squezze?this package has kept back,but dist-upgrade didn't anything |
| 17:23.01 | spal | rudi_s, is the GUI in reportbug new? or it was there but wasn't the default but has been made as the default now? |
| 17:23.03 | babilen | mint: dependency solving is quite a difficult thing and the algorithms needed are already implemented for apt-get/aptitude. you might want to use the already existing code |
| 17:23.07 | v4nelle | sorry about my english :) |
| 17:23.18 | v4nelle | gnome-core* |
| 17:23.20 | mint | because is a project for university and i'm trying to do something like synaptic but web |
| 17:23.22 | mint | wit rails |
| 17:23.37 | mint | (rails because professor said) |
| 17:23.44 | babilen | mint: especially given the fact that aptitude uses a number of heuristics to rank different solutions |
| 17:23.44 | rudi_s | spal: Not sure, I never used the GUI. |
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| 17:26.42 | mint | babilen, this link you gave me is a lot useful! |
| 17:27.05 | kenboo | why Iceweasel doesn't say Firefox in its user agent? |
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| 17:27.18 | bzed | mint: python-apt is a python implementation of what you're probably trying to write in ruby |
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| 17:27.56 | mint | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.09 | mint | do you know if is something like a "wrapper"? |
| 17:28.18 | jelly-home | mint: you probably want to a) ask in #debian-devel b) make a ruby binding for libapt |
| 17:28.18 | bzed | mint: no, but on libapt |
| 17:28.20 | mint | i'll see |
| 17:28.29 | mint | :( |
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| 17:28.42 | mint | if i need to run it on windows it will not work |
| 17:28.48 | bzed | mint: if it is not your task I would not suggest to try to reimplement a dependency solver in ruby, better use libapt |
| 17:29.08 | mint | ok |
| 17:29.22 | mint | is a good point because heuristics |
| 17:29.43 | bzed | mint: reimplementing such a solver is no fun, except you like the theoretic computer science stuff and you're a bit masochistic |
| 17:30.13 | Quazar | Im baked :D |
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| 17:30.16 | babilen | mint: and even then you might end up with something completely different than apt* |
| 17:30.17 | mint | lol |
| 17:30.45 | bzed | mint: and there is not really a sense in running that in windows - except you want to so something else but you're looking on the wrong tool :) |
| 17:30.48 | mint | higly probable |
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| 17:31.00 | jelly-home | mint: apt is C++, I see no reason why it'd not work in windows |
| 17:31.05 | babilen | mint: if your task is to get your hands wet with RoR than do that, and leverage existing software to do the computation |
| 17:31.34 | mint | the only circumstance i could need to run it on windows is if the "web server" needs to be windows |
| 17:31.46 | mint | but in fact it will not be necessary |
| 17:32.01 | bzed | mint: whats the goal of your project? |
| 17:32.38 | mint | the goal is bring package dependency automation resolver like apt |
| 17:32.45 | mint | to someone with a pendrive |
| 17:33.05 | mint | but without internet connection on her box |
| 17:33.11 | mint | like southamerica |
| 17:33.25 | mint | this guy can go with a pendrive to cyber coffee |
| 17:33.33 | mint | or library |
| 17:33.35 | jelly-home | !apt-zip |
| 17:33.35 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
| 17:33.41 | mint | or his friend house |
| 17:34.00 | mint | but if library has windows?? |
| 17:34.06 | mint | apt-zip works? |
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| 17:34.31 | bzed | mint: you could port it to windows, or just use it from your web forntend |
| 17:34.42 | Zambezi | quitte: This is insane... I added that fglrx without << >> and it didn't work. I assumed it was like "aptitude install packges". I added << >> Xorg crasched, didn't start. I checked the log, and decided to take one step back, I comment the line and restarted the kdm daemon. And now I have a clone! :-O |
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| 17:35.23 | Zambezi | quitte: Tell me if you want to see the log to see what happened. |
| 17:35.32 | quitte | Zambezi: the <<>> is not suppposed to be in gthe config. and well now that you have a clone maybe grandr just works |
| 17:35.51 | quitte | Zambezi: i'd like to see a log of xorg with the fglrx driver |
| 17:35.53 | bzed | mint: apt-zip will give you a 'fetch script', which is something you usually run on the computer with network |
| 17:37.10 | mint | downloading |
| 17:37.48 | mint | :D |
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| 17:38.04 | gauge | g'day all |
| 17:38.42 | gauge | I'm tryign to fix my debian system, so I tossed in a debian5 cd, and have been tryign to open a recovery console. |
| 17:38.44 | Zambezi | quitte: In PM. |
| 17:38.47 | TauPan | hi, I'm having serious problems getting the right permissions for the usbdev* devices of my android phone |
| 17:38.57 | gauge | I select he right partion, but it flashes a console, then disapears. |
| 17:38.59 | bzed | mint: btw, the only one who talks in #debian-devel-changes is the bot who announces changes :) |
| 17:39.03 | TauPan | I currently have: SUBSYSTEM="usb|usb_device", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0bb4", OWNER:="myusername", MODE:="0660" |
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| 17:39.10 | bookmark_ | halo |
| 17:39.17 | TauPan | but I always end up with the device belonging to root:root |
| 17:39.22 | gauge | btw, I'm in the graphical recovery mode. |
| 17:39.24 | bookmark_ | does anyone know if there is some way that i can just get a module for my: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) |
| 17:39.28 | bookmark_ | ?? |
| 17:39.33 | gauge | all I'm realy trying to do is install grub. |
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| 17:40.22 | mint | bzed, thats true |
| 17:40.42 | gauge | Can someone point me to a way to fix grub? |
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| 17:40.50 | mint | even in oftc |
| 17:40.53 | quitte | Zambezi: that is radeonhd again. is that intentional? |
| 17:40.53 | bzed | TauPan: remove the : behind owner and mode |
| 17:40.55 | bookmark_ | fix it? |
| 17:40.57 | mint | XD |
| 17:40.58 | gauge | yes. |
| 17:40.59 | bookmark_ | like repair it? |
| 17:41.17 | TauPan | bzed: I've tried that before, I think... I'll try again. |
| 17:41.19 | adb | !fixmbr |
| 17:41.19 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <rescue mode> and <dual boot guide>. |
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| 17:41.22 | gauge | when I boot my laptop, I only get a grub prompt. but it says that "root" isnt a valid command. |
| 17:41.28 | gauge | So my systme cant even boot. |
| 17:41.44 | quitte | bookmark_: that is supported out of the box with lenny |
| 17:41.52 | bzed | TauPan: and use your username instead of myusername of course |
| 17:41.54 | gauge | wow that was a lot of info. |
| 17:41.59 | TauPan | bzed: sure :) |
| 17:42.18 | Zambezi | quitte: Yes. Since Xorg didn't start, a took a step back and comment the Driver "fglrx". Then ran /etc/init.d/kdm restart and then it popped up on both monitors. |
| 17:42.20 | bookmark_ | quitte well i can't make a peep come out of it |
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| 17:42.54 | TauPan | bzed: ok, I just changed it, did udev stop, udev start, plugged in the phone, still the new /dev/usbdev* devices are root:root |
| 17:42.57 | bookmark_ | guage another thing you could do, i just to dd of=/dev/hda0 when it was working |
| 17:43.03 | bookmark_ | then your mbr will be on file |
| 17:43.07 | bookmark_ | and you can just restore it |
| 17:43.17 | bzed | TauPan: where did you create your reules file? |
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| 17:43.49 | TauPan | in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ... I tried all of 01-android-rules, 50-android-rules and z90-android-rules |
| 17:44.01 | bzed | hmm that should work |
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| 17:44.10 | Zambezi | quitte: I'm restarting Xorg now with monitor off. |
| 17:44.10 | TauPan | that's where custom rules are supposed to go, according to the last udev changelog |
| 17:44.11 | bookmark_ | quitte, do you have any suggestions |
| 17:44.13 | funyun | anyone know of a way to extract audio from an ISO file without mounting it? |
| 17:44.15 | TauPan | (on squeeze) |
| 17:44.15 | quitte | Zambezi: ok. the fglrx kernel module is loaded,though. as you want 3d and video acceleration fglrx is the sanest choice though. |
| 17:44.31 | bzed | TauPan: you want to use fastboot, right? |
| 17:44.34 | bookmark_ | quitte: I try to aplay audio.wav and it is just dead silent |
| 17:44.38 | TauPan | what? |
| 17:44.48 | quitte | bookmark_: add yourself to the audio group and turn up the volume in a mixer. also check if any snd_hda modules are loaded |
| 17:44.51 | bzed | TauPan: ok, what do you want to do? :) |
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| 17:45.22 | TauPan | I want to be able to start the adb daemon (android remote debugger) under my userid. |
| 17:45.32 | bzed | TauPan: ah ok. let me see... |
| 17:45.32 | TauPan | right now I have to start it as root |
| 17:45.52 | TauPan | http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html <- only info is for ubuntu and seems to be severely outdated |
| 17:46.12 | bzed | TauPan: I'll write a rules file, I need it anyway. give me a few minutes |
| 17:46.16 | Zambezi | quitte: I'm trying to change again. |
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| 17:49.11 | funyun | anyone know of a way to extract audio from an ISO file without mounting it? |
| 17:49.21 | bookmark_ | well i see my device |
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| 17:49.42 | nkuttler | funyun: hm? |
| 17:49.43 | gauge | oi, that chroot cammand isnt workign. though I was able to mount my root partion. |
| 17:50.09 | funyun | nkuttler: do you know of a way to extract audio from an ISO file without mounting it? |
| 17:50.12 | gauge | "can;t exec /bin/sh: Exec format error" |
| 17:50.13 | bzed | TauPan: I'd suggest to use a group like androiddev instead of pointing it to one user account only |
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| 17:50.21 | bzed | TauPan: would that be ok for you? |
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| 17:50.52 | TauPan | sure |
| 17:51.13 | gauge | any ideas? |
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| 17:51.47 | funyun | anyone know of a way to extract audio from an ISO file without mounting it? |
| 17:51.52 | bookmark_ | gauge are you on /dev/hda1? |
| 17:51.55 | bookmark_ | your linux |
| 17:52.02 | gauge | /dev/sda2 |
| 17:52.14 | bookmark_ | and what do you have on sda1? |
| 17:52.15 | gauge | /dev/sda1 is vista (ntfs) |
| 17:52.20 | gauge | sda3 is swap |
| 17:52.23 | VanRoy | hi everyone ! |
| 17:52.35 | bookmark_ | never install two OSs on the same harddrive unless you're just testing |
| 17:52.36 | bzed | TauPan: addgroup --system androiddev |
| 17:52.39 | bzed | TauPan: :) |
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| 17:52.51 | gauge | I know what I;m doing, its just hat grub didnt install right. |
| 17:52.56 | TauPan | bzed: hm, I have to cook dinner now, but I'll certainly read your suggestions later. |
| 17:52.57 | gauge | I usualy dual boot. |
| 17:53.03 | bzed | TauPan: enjoy :) |
| 17:53.09 | bookmark_ | well did you tell it to write gub to the master boot record even? |
| 17:53.27 | VanRoy | i'd like to set up Window Maker (i have Gnome on Lenny).... How do you install Window Maker ? |
| 17:53.32 | bookmark_ | you could install lilo with tomsrootboot but its a bitch |
| 17:53.33 | gauge | I tried writtign it to the mbr, like i usalualy do, but durrign the install last night it failed, and so did lilo. |
| 17:54.02 | gauge | and at the promt , the one I get whe ni reboot my system, it clains that "root" isnt a valid command! |
| 17:54.08 | TauPan | bzed: sorry for bad timing |
| 17:54.09 | funyun | anyone know of a way to extract audio from an ISO file without mounting it? |
| 17:54.23 | gauge | so I cant boot debian or vista to repair it. I have to use a live cd it seems. |
| 17:54.42 | gauge | now I have the partion mounted, I jsut want to get grub going. |
| 17:54.49 | bookmark_ | i would never put windows and linux on one drive, that is asking for shit |
| 17:54.59 | nsadmin | funyun: why not mount it? |
| 17:55.04 | Zyferus | one drive? or one partition? |
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| 17:55.10 | bookmark_ | never on one drive |
| 17:55.10 | gauge | bookmark_: I humble call out out on that. it;s really not a big deal. |
| 17:55.32 | gauge | and this isnt a dual boot problem, its grub being lazy. |
| 17:55.34 | chazco | Hi... anyone know how to setup an eGalax touchscreen in Debian Lenny? |
| 17:55.37 | gauge | imho. |
| 17:55.41 | jelly-home | funyun: uh. usually, iso images are iso9660 filesystems and cannot carry CD audio. |
| 17:55.42 | Zyferus | i have a lappy, it can only support one internal drive |
| 17:55.55 | bookmark_ | well have fun installing windows again |
| 17:55.57 | bookmark_ | : D |
| 17:56.02 | VanRoy | sorry , no idea about set up Window maker on Lenny ? |
| 17:56.04 | gauge | I'm also tryign to ru nthe grub-installer but that too isnt working for me |
| 17:56.07 | funyun | nsadmin: when i try to mount i get this. mount: unknown filesystem type 'udf' |
| 17:56.13 | nsadmin | funyun: nonresponsive. directly: no. |
| 17:56.27 | nsadmin | oh, you did respond |
| 17:56.37 | funyun | jelly-home: this iso is a movie |
| 17:56.45 | funyun | jelly-home: dvd image |
| 17:56.57 | gauge | no, no help for reinstalled grub? |
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| 17:57.02 | gauge | *reinstalling |
| 17:57.13 | jelly-home | funyun: mplayer can do it. |
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| 17:57.32 | funyun | jelly-home: cool. do ya know the command? |
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| 17:57.35 | nsadmin | gauge: where do you want to put the stage1 and stage2? |
| 17:57.55 | gauge | I'm sorry I'm not familiar, stage1/2 ? |
| 17:57.58 | jelly-home | funyun: not off the top of my head |
| 17:58.09 | phryk | Hey! Let's spam #archlinux.de |
| 17:58.14 | xelat48 | yeah |
| 17:58.15 | funyun | jelly-home: okay, will ask in #mplayer. thanks for help |
| 17:58.16 | phryk | xD |
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| 17:58.29 | xelat48 | arklinux sux anyway |
| 17:58.29 | bookmark_ | i wouldn't put two OS on a single drive unless it was linux and then /dev/sda1 is under 300megs |
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| 17:58.34 | Zambezi | quitte: It seems my monitor is set to 8 bit deapth graphic. |
| 17:58.36 | bookmark_ | only if it is under 300megs |
| 17:58.47 | phryk | arch sucks buttcrack! |
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| 17:59.11 | bookmark_ | because then you get grub right away installed with the first OS |
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| 17:59.31 | bookmark_ | and it only took 30 min to install and you can just copy it with dd |
| 17:59.33 | gpm | is there a way to have find look for files whose names start with "1." or "I." ? |
| 17:59.35 | bookmark_ | other than that no way |
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| 17:59.47 | jelly-home | gpm: yes. |
| 17:59.52 | jelly-home | !using find |
| 17:59.52 | dpkg | hmm... using find is http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind |
| 18:00.24 | xelat48 | hey ppl u dont need dpkg anymore, pacman works on debian too |
| 18:00.37 | xelat48 | and pacman maintainer are cooler anyway |
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| 18:01.08 | jelly-home | gpm: read about -o in the manual |
| 18:01.10 | gpm | jelly-home: thanks much. is there somewhere even more comprehensive? in case i run into more issues? |
| 18:01.16 | gpm | aha |
| 18:01.16 | gpm | ok |
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| 18:01.35 | gauge | nsadmin: you were saying...? |
| 18:01.42 | bookmark_ | i liked aumix better |
| 18:02.36 | nsadmin | gauge: so I recommend you get familiar |
| 18:02.47 | bzed | TauPan: http://paste.debian.net/36992/ |
| 18:02.52 | gauge | ah. |
| 18:02.57 | bookmark_ | oh and btw gauge |
| 18:03.02 | nsadmin | stage1 is very small, fits on a single sector |
| 18:03.27 | bookmark_ | if you want to put two OSs on your computer with two drivers, use utlimate boot cd smart bootmanager iso to switch between them |
| 18:03.31 | gauge | what about this, I tried running grub installer and got this: grub-installer wrong number of args |
| 18:03.36 | quitte | Zambezi: no log? |
| 18:03.41 | bookmark_ | two drives rather |
| 18:04.00 | nsadmin | stage2 is larger, but it will fit somewhere within like 60 sectors... |
| 18:04.08 | gauge | thanks nsadmin |
| 18:04.16 | pasky | Hi! I have a directory with few million temp files, and I want to remove it, as soon as possible, but _without_ the process randomly stopping my mp3 playback for tens of seconds. Is that possible to do? |
| 18:04.16 | bookmark_ | your probably writing into windows data |
| 18:04.20 | pasky | I have tried running the rm -r with ionice -c3 or ionice -c2 -n7, with no effect whatsoever |
| 18:04.36 | nsadmin | in combination, stage1 and stage2 is grub, and without a menu.lst, it will get you the grub shell |
| 18:04.53 | xelat48 | bleh |
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| 18:04.57 | nsadmin | the purpose of stage1 is to load stage2 |
| 18:05.10 | bookmark_ | sort of like women |
| 18:05.24 | nsadmin | so when installed, stage1 gets altered with the location of stage2 |
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| 18:06.18 | quitte | bookmark_: what are you talking about? windows overwrites the bootloader in the mbr. that is the _only_ problem. |
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| 18:06.26 | nsadmin | stage2 gets altered with the location of the menu.lst and device.map |
| 18:06.27 | phryk | I liek mudkipz! |
| 18:06.29 | jelly-home | pasky: make the player use a bigger buffer? |
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| 18:06.39 | bookmark_ | yes and what a sucky problem |
| 18:06.40 | Zambezi | quitte: I'm in terminal only right now so a bit tricky to give. I added a row now. Hope that work. |
| 18:06.52 | bookmark_ | when you have a free bay and you can keep things neat |
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| 18:06.59 | quitte | Zambezi: you could always make a copy before going back to x |
| 18:07.25 | nsadmin | you can get free bays?! I want Montego Bay! |
| 18:07.49 | bookmark_ | well if you don't have a free bay then just run linux, it rocks anyway |
| 18:07.50 | pasky | jelly-home: the whole system stalls - I want the removal to go on background |
| 18:07.51 | jelly-home | bookmark_: you can also _use_ the windows bootloader. |
| 18:07.52 | bookmark_ | forget windows |
| 18:07.54 | quitte | bookmark_: uhm just run the debian installer in rescue mode than and reinstall your boot loader. whats the problem? everybody's been doing it since more than a decade |
| 18:08.00 | pasky | jelly-home: without interfering with the rest of the system |
| 18:08.08 | pasky | jelly-home: surely an os as modern as linux can do that...? ;) |
| 18:08.10 | nsadmin | gauge: understand that much? |
| 18:08.21 | bookmark_ | like they were just saying man mbrs sometimes go over the first sector |
| 18:08.30 | bookmark_ | ok now you're writing into windows on hda1 |
| 18:08.30 | quitte | bull |
| 18:08.35 | bookmark_ | no bull man look it up |
| 18:08.44 | gauge | yeah, I get the basic idea. but, I'm hoping I wont have to dive that deep, so to speak. |
| 18:09.04 | gauge | it's 2009. I have live cds. I shouldnt have to worry so much about htose details. imho. |
| 18:09.10 | Zambezi | quitte: This log will be like a picture on the moon confirming it isn't flat. ;-) In PM about a minute. |
| 18:09.23 | bookmark_ | lilo was about the only boot program that was small enough to be in the first sector |
| 18:09.26 | bookmark_ | completely |
| 18:09.45 | quitte | could you please stop trolling? |
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| 18:09.49 | nsadmin | gauge: then I can't help you |
| 18:09.58 | jelly-home | pasky: just for fun, which fs are we talking about? |
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| 18:10.50 | bookmark_ | quitte just trying to save people headaches, I mean sure it might work sometimes but it might also not work and you've borked your stuff |
| 18:10.53 | lirtex | Hi. I want to build a debian kernel for an ARM platform (the BeagleBoard). Can I compile the kernel in my x86 architecture for an ARM architecture? |
| 18:11.06 | pasky | jelly-home: ext3 |
| 18:11.20 | jelly-home | pasky: does anything change if you give the media player preferential treatment with ionice? |
| 18:11.34 | pasky | jelly-home: i didn't try that - but i used the media player just as an example, really |
| 18:11.35 | nsadmin | lirtex: you would need a cross compiler |
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| 18:11.43 | pasky | jelly-home: my mailer stalls, anything that does i/o stalls totally |
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| 18:11.46 | quitte | bookmark_: except it always works unless you do something really stupid. |
| 18:12.30 | lirtex | nsadmin: What's a cross-compiler? Can you refer me to more information? |
| 18:12.33 | jelly-home | pasky: uname -r? |
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| 18:13.02 | nsadmin | lirtex: a cross compiler runs on one arch, and produces code for another |
| 18:13.52 | bookmark_ | quitte i'm sure youve tested every single windows and linux combination |
| 18:13.52 | jelly-home | pasky: also, which io scheduler is active for that device? |
| 18:13.52 | bookmark_ | now shuush |
| 18:13.57 | lirtex | nsadmin: thanks, i'll RTFM. |
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| 18:14.21 | pasky | jelly-home: 2.6.29-2-amd64 |
| 18:14.25 | pasky | jelly-home: good question! |
| 18:14.30 | pasky | i'll try to find out |
| 18:14.34 | jelly-home | pasky: you'll probably get more meaningful answers in ##kernel |
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| 18:15.21 | pasky | jelly-home: noop anticipatory deadline [cfq] |
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| 18:15.26 | pasky | jelly-home: thanks, i will try |
| 18:15.52 | jelly-home | pasky: see if your system get more responsive if you change it to deadline. |
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| 18:16.09 | quitte | bookmark_: windows installs its bootloader in its partitions bootsector. so changing the mbr doesnt harm windows. no need to try every combination. |
| 18:16.23 | quitte | Zambezi: looks like the log of a working X to me |
| 18:17.05 | bookmark_ | but he wasn't talking about using windows boot loader |
| 18:17.08 | bookmark_ | so i wasn't trolling |
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| 18:17.12 | bookmark_ | he was trying to use grub |
| 18:17.24 | pasky | jelly-home: no, that actually made it much worse |
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| 18:17.41 | jelly-home | pasky: or the other other one |
| 18:17.42 | pasky | jelly-home: or maybe it's about the same, hard to tell |
| 18:17.46 | pasky | yes i try that now :) |
| 18:17.55 | quitte | bookmark_: and unless you think you are clever and use dd or cat to fix your mbr noting will write too many blocks in the mbr. and grub is modular. it doesn'T have to fully fit in the mbr |
| 18:18.10 | pasky | jelly-home: didn't help either |
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| 18:18.54 | bookmark_ | quitte i advised him to put it on two harddrives is what i advised |
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| 18:19.20 | bookmark_ | and i know that grub won't fit in the boot sector, that is why i told him it is dangerous trying to use it with windows on sda1 |
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| 18:19.49 | quitte | bookmark_: yes. next time keep it to a single line. multiboot installations have been working for years. in fact even resizing the windows partition before installing linux works just fine |
| 18:19.50 | bookmark_ | and you can select which drive to boot to with ultimate boot cd |
| 18:19.55 | bookmark_ | you don't need a bootloarder at all |
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| 18:20.04 | Zambezi | quitte: And picture is full size on mplayer. It's a clone now, so same picture on both monitors. grandr just show default as output. But it's still a major step to twinview. Thanks alot for your help today. Highly appreciated. Driver working, that's enough for today. :-) |
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| 18:20.27 | bookmark_ | quitte now you're getting silly |
| 18:20.37 | bookmark_ | as if you want people to fail |
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| 18:21.56 | quitte | bookmark_: installing a bootloader is a very routine task. the installer does it for you. it works way more often than it fails, even for complete newbies. |
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| 18:22.21 | bookmark_ | you'd probably have a boot loader but it would remain the native one to whatever is on /dev/sda1 |
| 18:22.29 | bookmark_ | and you wouldn't have a crap shoot |
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| 18:22.38 | bookmark_ | use ultimate boot cd and two drives dude |
| 18:22.46 | quitte | bookmark_: just stfu |
| 18:23.02 | nsadmin | bookmark_ the thing is there are boot loaders that work fine in debian |
| 18:23.02 | bookmark_ | better than borking a 3 gigabyte windows install |
| 18:23.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | he wants to fix things before they're broke :) |
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| 18:23.28 | bookmark_ | but we're talking about mixing a linux install and a windows install on the same drive |
| 18:23.33 | quitte | !ops bookmark is trolling and promoting some probably propprietary bootloader |
| 18:23.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: quitte complains about: bookmark is trolling and promoting some probably propprietary bootloader |
| 18:23.45 | nsadmin | bookmark_: my home dir is 10 times that, and it's full already |
| 18:23.46 | jelly-home | quitte: srsly, dude |
| 18:23.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | mixing? |
| 18:24.01 | chazco | Hi... anyone know how to setup an eGalax touchscreen in Debian Lenny? |
| 18:24.21 | Spida | chazco: no problem there. |
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| 18:24.34 | bookmark_ | so windows booting with grub is cool ok ill keep that in mind |
| 18:24.38 | bookmark_ | you all win |
| 18:24.48 | jelly-home | quitte, bookmark_: just because you disagree with someone, doesn't mean they're trolling |
| 18:24.49 | Spida | chazco: gpm from upstream has a patch, and it should work on X just fine. |
| 18:24.51 | nsadmin | bookmark_: it works fine |
| 18:24.55 | chazco | Dont seem to be able to get mine working... can get it to be recognised with the evtouch driver, but it doesnt want to calibrate |
| 18:24.57 | rahsputin | hi, where can i find a CD.iso to install etch ( business card ) ? |
| 18:24.58 | bookmark_ | im sure it can |
| 18:25.03 | bookmark_ | i'm also sure it can fail hard |
| 18:25.10 | nsadmin | as long as the windows chainloader stays intact |
| 18:25.20 | bookmark_ | cross your fingers dude |
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| 18:25.39 | jelly-home | bookmark_: have you even seen it fail hard? At least with XP it's not a big deal. |
| 18:25.49 | Spida | chazco: X or gpm? |
| 18:25.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | rahsputin, why would you want etch? lenny is stable now |
| 18:26.06 | bookmark_ | ive seen it get where it needs fixed yes |
| 18:26.10 | bookmark_ | if that's what you're asking |
| 18:26.19 | jelly-home | right. |
| 18:26.20 | chazco | Spida - X (ie, the standard fresh from CD Gnome) |
| 18:26.21 | bookmark_ | with lilo even |
| 18:26.24 | spal | rahsputin, what is the meaning of "( business card )" in your message? |
| 18:26.26 | rahsputin | CutMeOwnThroat: na, i need a iso of etch |
| 18:26.36 | jelly-home | bookmark_: lilo is worse in that regard. |
| 18:26.46 | nsadmin | rahsputin: why etch? lenny is latest release |
| 18:26.50 | rahsputin | spal: business card size iso for netinstall |
| 18:27.01 | spal | rahsputin, okay. curious why you need etch. |
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| 18:27.07 | Spida | chazco: no clue, I just use gpm. |
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| 18:27.30 | chazco | Spida - Fair enough, thanks anyway |
| 18:27.33 | bookmark1 | whoops |
| 18:28.06 | Spida | chazco: However, I have issues with the usb-device disconnecting and reconnecting all the time, if you experience similar things, it would be nice to hear from you here... |
| 18:28.07 | rahsputin | because Etch is a bit comfortabler |
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| 18:28.40 | Barbaren | ls |
| 18:28.44 | chazco | Spida - If I get it working sure :) Currently only got it working with Ubuntu and Touchkit (may try that on Debian next, but would prefer evtouch) |
| 18:28.45 | Barbaren | hello |
| 18:28.58 | spal | rahsputin, lenny should be more comfortable then. :-) as for the question, I don't know whether you can still find etch ISO downloads in debian site. |
| 18:29.15 | Barbaren | i just purchased a debian (etch) vps, but there's no sources.list file in /etc/apt? is this wierd?=p |
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| 18:29.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can... but it's not in http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive yet... so I'm not sure where |
| 18:29.56 | petemc | Barbaren: its easily fixed |
| 18:29.59 | nsadmin | Barbaren: you can make one yourself |
| 18:30.10 | Barbaren | this is true |
| 18:30.17 | Barbaren | but it's still strange? isn't it supposed to be there by default? |
| 18:30.28 | petemc | depend how they created it |
| 18:30.33 | spal | what exactly is VPS? |
| 18:30.34 | Barbaren | ok |
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| 18:30.37 | nsadmin | they probably write an image after installing |
| 18:30.39 | Barbaren | virtual private server |
| 18:30.45 | spal | ok |
| 18:30.55 | Barbaren | ok |
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| 18:31.00 | Barbaren | well, i will just read some guide and create it then |
| 18:31.17 | Barbaren | i just went to install some software and nothings working, so i'm thinking wtf?! |
| 18:31.34 | nsadmin | !mirror list |
| 18:31.34 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>. |
| 18:31.51 | spal | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free |
| 18:31.51 | spal | deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main |
| 18:32.02 | spal | Barbaren, something as simple as the above should solve your problem |
| 18:32.12 | nsadmin | Barbaren: go to that first site and pick a mirror close to you |
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| 18:32.25 | nsadmin | there should be at least one in .se |
| 18:32.27 | Barbaren | yep, will do |
| 18:32.28 | JNSamuel | hi |
| 18:32.33 | Barbaren | thank you very much |
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| 18:32.41 | rahsputin | spal: i am running sarge, etch, and lenny up to now Etch with 2.6.24 kernel |
| 18:32.47 | rahsputin | is the best |
| 18:33.21 | spal | rahsputin, in what sense? I mean what is good in etch that is not good in lenny? |
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| 18:34.12 | rahsputin | the configuration and hardware support |
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| 18:34.32 | nsadmin | more specifically? |
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| 18:35.02 | quitte | must be a sunday |
| 18:35.57 | spal | rahsputin, personally, I have found hardware support better on Lenny. Etch did not detect the hard disks of a new Acer laptop. Lenny did. |
| 18:36.09 | abrotman | the controller or the disks? |
| 18:36.27 | spal | rahsputin, could you give one or two examples where Lenny does not support a hardware or supports it poorer than Etch? |
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| 18:36.46 | Mikk- | Just so you know the topic chanserv and dpkg messages don't reveal the locatoin of mentioned FAQ. Have fun guys |
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| 18:37.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | rahsputin, http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ fwiw ... also /msg dpkg etch security |
| 18:37.30 | spal | abrotman, not sure. The install CD installed Etch fine on the hard disk but after booting, the kernel threw errors that indicated that it could not recognize disk or something similar. don't remember well as it was a year ago. |
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| 18:38.39 | spal | <spal> abrotman, not sure. The install CD installed Etch fine on the hard disk but after booting, the kernel threw errors that indicated that it could not recognize disk or something similar. don't remember well as it was a year ago. |
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| 18:38.57 | rahsputin | spal: Fritz USB Wlan |
| 18:39.10 | abrotman | spal: i saw .. sorry .. |
| 18:39.15 | spal | ok |
| 18:39.28 | spal | ok to both rahsputin and abrotman |
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| 18:42.15 | rahsputin | spal: i don't have any new Hardware at all, i collect "old and used" Hardware and make the best out of them... and in Etch to configure X was a whole lot easier |
| 18:42.28 | spal | ok |
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| 18:42.40 | Taram | hi...I have some probems with iceweasel+flash player .... for example here I don't hear the audio and can not see the flash player ... http://www.wdr5.de/tore-der-welt/das-hoerspiel/das-neue-hospital.html ...further flash-plugin (Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin) is installed also gnash and swfdec-gnome...also openjdk is installed can some help me? |
| 18:42.48 | spal | rahsputin, how is it more difficult in Lenny? |
| 18:43.02 | Taram | oh I am running debian lenny |
| 18:43.05 | rahsputin | CutMeOwnThroat: thanx |
| 18:43.31 | nsadmin | one thing that is true... old hardware is losing debian support... 386 kernels are already gone, and 486 kernels are going. |
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| 18:44.59 | quitte | rahsputin: http://www.avm.de/de/News/artikel/wlan_stick_linux.html did it work out of the box with etch? |
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| 18:47.12 | Zambezi | quitte: Do you know if fglxr is suppose to support twinview? |
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| 18:47.32 | quitte | Zambezi: yes, it should. but probably not with randr |
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| 18:47.51 | maligor | xrandr doesn't support that yet afaik |
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| 18:48.07 | maligor | ATI calls it big desktop |
| 18:48.16 | maligor | twinview is nvidia tm |
| 18:48.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | nsadmin, but then there were never 8086 kernels... and actually all the embedded stuff is not using x386 at all |
| 18:48.58 | NavY-Seal | is there a distro broken down just console without any thing in it so i can start troubleshoot y my debian install hangs on hardware load ? |
| 18:49.39 | quitte | Zambezi: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/3861 |
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| 18:50.12 | seth1248 | Can anyone give me any suggestions? I just installed Debian Lenny (again) but it wont run X - I just get a black screen. |
| 18:50.13 | quitte | Zambezi: but if i were you i'd give the fglrx-control package a try |
| 18:51.11 | abrotman | seth1248: how did you install X? which video carD? |
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| 18:51.23 | nkuttler | seth1248: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 18:51.33 | anom01y | why is Debian so many dvd's ? when ubuntu is one cd big ? |
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| 18:51.43 | nkuttler | !tell anom01y about netinst |
| 18:51.46 | jamesstanley | anom01y: you only need one cd |
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| 18:51.52 | jamesstanley | i only ever got one cd |
| 18:51.57 | jamesstanley | make sure you get the first one though |
| 18:52.02 | jamesstanley | or netinst, of course |
| 18:52.06 | anom01y | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-dvd/ |
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| 18:52.25 | abrotman | anom01y: debian has quite a bit more software |
| 18:52.28 | abrotman | !dstats lenny |
| 18:52.37 | Zambezi | quitte: Will do. I think I installed it. I'll double check. |
| 18:52.37 | jamesstanley | anom01y: you can get all of that stuff with apt once you have a net connection |
| 18:52.42 | seth1248 | I just installed Debian Lenny from a netinstall-bizcard cd and kept the default options selecting base system and desktop. |
| 18:52.58 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 23104 packages, 1932 maintainers, 59106 MB installed size, 20863 MB compressed size. |
| 18:53.09 | anom01y | is debian bigger than ubuntu ? |
| 18:53.35 | jamesstanley | by quite a long way anom01y |
| 18:53.54 | nsadmin | anom01y: nope... exactly the same size |
| 18:54.07 | abrotman | nsadmin: it is bigger |
| 18:54.08 | nsadmin | d-e-b-i-a-n, u-b-u-n-t-u |
| 18:54.14 | anom01y | lol |
| 18:54.21 | anom01y | k I will try it then, |
| 18:54.27 | seth1248 | lspci give me: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express. |
| 18:54.43 | abrotman | seth1248: try `aptitude install xorg` .. does it do anything else? |
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| 18:56.55 | Zambezi | maligor: Thanks. |
| 18:57.09 | NavY-Seal | where can i download debian 4.x versions |
| 18:57.09 | seth1248 | abrotman: xorg was already installed - aptitude install xorg did nothing else. |
| 18:57.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | nsadmin, depends on the font |
| 18:57.47 | Barbaren | quick question: when running apt-get update i get this: W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: (random key here) |
| 18:57.49 | abrotman | seth1248: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors |
| 18:58.01 | Barbaren | it suggests running apt-get update to mitigate the problem, but that's what i just did :) |
| 18:58.04 | Barbaren | what does it mean? |
| 18:58.04 | abrotman | !no public key |
| 18:58.05 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. The current key will be linked at http://ftp-master.debian.org/. |
| 18:58.29 | Barbaren | !etch key |
| 18:58.29 | dpkg | # apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-key update |
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| 18:59.27 | nsadmin | Barbaren: you would install the etch key and then run apt-get update |
| 18:59.37 | Barbaren | ok |
| 18:59.46 | Barbaren | how do i install _that_ key? |
| 19:00.00 | Barbaren | i ran apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-key update |
| 19:00.02 | abrotman | Barbaren: it just told you |
| 19:00.06 | Barbaren | it gave me lots of keys |
| 19:00.10 | abrotman | Barbaren: which key is failing ? |
| 19:00.11 | Barbaren | for lenny etc |
| 19:00.15 | Barbaren | i don't think anyone is =p |
| 19:00.24 | Barbaren | lets see |
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| 19:00.58 | nsadmin | Barbaren: what happens when you run apt-get update? |
| 19:01.12 | Barbaren | it's fine now :) |
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| 19:01.18 | Barbaren | thanks for the help :) |
| 19:01.21 | abrotman | Barbaren: okay then .. enjoy! |
| 19:01.47 | Barbaren | :D |
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| 19:03.50 | binrapt | Hello, which gcc version does lenny ship with? |
| 19:04.12 | binrapt | 4.3.2 or so? |
| 19:04.36 | \amethyst | binrapt: except on alpha |
| 19:04.48 | \amethyst | binrapt: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gcc |
| 19:05.03 | binrapt | Ah thanks |
| 19:05.20 | binrapt | Does that gcc version have TR1/C++0x stuff yet or was that 4.4+? |
| 19:05.22 | \amethyst | binrapt: lenny also has gcc-3.4 available, but it's not the default |
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| 19:06.08 | seth1248 | nkuttler: , abrotman: Here is my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/m37fa1f5f |
| 19:06.26 | \amethyst | binrapt: http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html |
| 19:06.47 | \amethyst | binrapt: 4.3 has some C++0x features, 4.4 has some more, but neither has a complete implementation |
| 19:06.52 | binrapt | Ah ok |
| 19:06.59 | binrapt | I guess it's too early then |
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| 19:07.25 | binrapt | Thanks |
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| 19:08.49 | nsadmin | what's C++0x? |
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| 19:09.04 | \amethyst | nsadmin: the next version of the C++ standard |
| 19:09.14 | \amethyst | nsadmin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x |
| 19:09.34 | abrotman | seth1248: is there stuff in your xorg.conf or is it mostly empty? |
| 19:10.01 | seth1248 | abrotman: mostly empty. |
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| 19:12.49 | binrapt | Is running 4.4 on Lenny problematic without dist upgrade or is it fairly simple? |
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| 19:14.01 | seth1248 | Would having my monitor attached via a dvi to vga connector have anything to do with it? |
| 19:14.04 | dvs | \amethyst: Well, I think they'll have to rename that standard very soon. ;-) |
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| 19:14.54 | abrotman | spambot |
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| 19:15.05 | Taram | hi...I have some probems with iceweasel+flash player .... for example here I don't hear the audio and can not see the flash player ... http://www.wdr5.de/tore-der-welt/das-hoerspiel/das-neue-hospital.html ...further flash-plugin (Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin) is installed also gnash and swfdec-gnome...also openjdk is installed can some help me? |
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| 19:15.10 | bookmark2 | hello, what are usb drives typically labeled in debian? |
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| 19:15.19 | abrotman | depends what else you have .. but sd? |
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| 19:15.30 | bookmark2 | Taram, are you running 64bit linux? |
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| 19:16.42 | jelly-home | bookmark2: mine are labeled "1gb", "4gb" and "storage"... very descriptive! |
| 19:16.53 | Taram | no abrotman |
| 19:17.04 | bookmark2 | jelly-home: I have been using an sdcard reader for a long time now |
| 19:17.08 | abrotman | Taram: no what? |
| 19:17.23 | dvs | Taram: you mean bookmark2? |
| 19:17.26 | bookmark2 | i dunno the first thing about usb drives even though i've used linux for years |
| 19:17.46 | Taram | normal i386 |
| 19:17.50 | nsadmin | the first thing is: they use usb! |
| 19:17.53 | jelly-home | bookmark2: label the partitions at will |
| 19:18.13 | Barbaren | ok, so... i'm trying to set up some software on my debian (etch) vps and I run into this : http://pastie.org/488318 any tips how to upgrade the kernel? :p |
| 19:18.16 | Barbaren | !kernel |
| 19:18.18 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.29.4, prepatch: 2.6.30-rc7, 2.4: 2.4.37.1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.28-rc2-mm1 |
| 19:18.21 | bookmark2 | jelly-home: i'm sorry i am using the term wrong, what i meant to speak about was flash drives |
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| 19:18.32 | Barbaren | !kernel upgrade |
| 19:18.37 | bookmark2 | I am trying to find the device label for a usb flash drives |
| 19:18.40 | abrotman | Barbaren: you can msg the bot |
| 19:18.59 | dvs | Barbaren: what version of Debian are you using? |
| 19:19.03 | Barbaren | etch |
| 19:19.04 | nsadmin | of all those kernels that dpkg mentioned, which are packaged? |
| 19:19.05 | jelly-home | bookmark2: run "blkid" |
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| 19:19.27 | dvs | Barbaren: no reason to not upgrade to lenny? |
| 19:19.31 | bookmark2 | ok here we go /dev/sdb thanks |
| 19:19.45 | Barbaren | well, i would've got the vps with lenny, but the vps provider only had 3.1/4.0 |
| 19:19.57 | Barbaren | i have never done it from command line before |
| 19:20.13 | dvs | Barbaren: I think etch only goes up to 2.6.8 |
| 19:20.22 | Barbaren | ok |
| 19:20.33 | jelly-home | dvs: etch has 2.6.18 and 2.6.24. |
| 19:21.02 | jelly-home | dvs: 2.6.8 was sarge |
| 19:21.11 | dvs | jelly-home: Yeah, that's right.\ |
| 19:21.25 | Barbaren | well, i do apt-cache search kernel-image but i don't get any suggestions? |
| 19:21.26 | nsadmin | dvs: that's devious! |
| 19:21.28 | Barbaren | how do i upgrade it? |
| 19:21.28 | binrapt | Is it simple to run gcc 4.4 on Lenny without any further complicated dist upgrades or so? |
| 19:21.47 | dvs | Barbaren: because it's called "linux-image" now |
| 19:21.55 | Barbaren | oh |
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| 19:22.09 | nsadmin | binrapt: is 4.4 not available for lenny? |
| 19:22.10 | dvs | nsadmin: muhahah! ;-) |
| 19:22.12 | Barbaren | sweet |
| 19:22.16 | Zambezi | quitte: New desktop: 4096x1152. Thansk again! |
| 19:22.16 | jelly-home | binrapt: only if you build and install it yourself, so - no |
| 19:22.18 | binrapt | nsadmin oh, it is? I had no idea |
| 19:22.18 | Taram | hi abrotman...my system freeze...sorry |
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| 19:22.22 | NavY-Seal | guys i have a couple of questions if u have time to help me on this i appretiate it ... i managed to get my system up using the live cd failsafe ... is there a place where the system keeps logs so i can see what is cosing my debian installation to stop during hardware loading ? |
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| 19:22.35 | nsadmin | binrapt: dunno actually... it might be |
| 19:22.38 | abrotman | NavY-Seal: /var/log/ |
| 19:22.38 | bookmark2 | i dun understand why is cups and its friends like 200 or 300 megs |
| 19:22.41 | binrapt | I don't have lenny right now, but I'm moving to one soon |
| 19:22.51 | binrapt | Current server is still etch |
| 19:23.14 | Taram | abrotman: you may remeber...I was here a while ago with the same problem iceweasel/flash player....I did a new install since the hard divre was broken |
| 19:23.31 | jelly-home | judd: where are you? |
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| 19:23.37 | jelly-home | !seen judd |
| 19:23.37 | dpkg | judd <~stew@216.156.130.5.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 4h 32m 1s ago, saying: 'locklace: kvm -- etch-backports: 28-4~bpo.1 lenny: 72+dfsg-5~lenny1 sid: 72+dfsg-5 squeeze: 72+dfsg-5 experimental: 85+dfsg-3'. |
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| 19:23.49 | abrotman | Taram: do you iknow which iceweasel is being used |
| 19:23.52 | jelly-home | WaX-Dan: thanks, but turn that off. |
| 19:23.59 | abrotman | jelly-home: i believe the bot is on vacation |
| 19:24.04 | Taram | I remember that I installed open....and then the flashplayer was working |
| 19:24.15 | jelly-home | abrotman: is it summer already? |
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| 19:25.00 | Taram | version 3.06 abrotman |
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| 19:26.00 | abrotman | Taram: sorry .. which flash ? |
| 19:26.07 | Taram | hm...when we fixed it last time i was running squzzee...now lenny |
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| 19:26.23 | Taram | Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin |
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| 19:27.04 | Taram | 1.25~bpo50+1 |
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| 19:27.44 | Taram | and gnash 0.84-2 |
| 19:27.46 | NavY-Seal | abrotman: but i have to look at the hdd /var/log not in the live cd log right and is there a specific file i am looking at ? |
| 19:28.10 | becks` | hi, how can i re-install mysql so the table "mysql" gets recreated? I lost the 'debian-sys-maint'-user |
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| 19:32.12 | abrotman | NavY-Seal: so mount it first |
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| 19:36.56 | agaran | becks`: user or password? |
| 19:37.40 | agaran | becks`: and to reinstall that way you need to dump databases (to restore them later, i assume that you have some data there), then remove/purge mysql and install back then restore backup |
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| 19:39.54 | becks` | agaran, the user got los because i overwrote the mysql table from an other system.. so you'd do apt-get remove mysql-server and then reinstalling it? |
| 19:40.14 | becks` | ah got it, apt-get --purge remove |
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| 19:40.33 | ThatAynRandFag | Debian's Social Contract does say that all software in the main distribution will be free software. Unfortunately, that's not always true in practice. Debian has repeatedly made tacit or explicit exceptions for specific pieces of nonfree software, such as the blobs included in or accompanying Linux. We're still hopeful that there won't be such exceptions in the future, but we can't turn a blind eye to the situation as it stands today. |
| 19:40.39 | ThatAynRandFag | What do you make of this? |
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| 19:40.46 | abrotman | !debian-sys-maint |
| 19:40.46 | dpkg | debian-sys-maint is, like, a special user that has access to the local mysql for starting/stopping mysql and other maintenance operations. You should not remove this user. If you somehow erased it, there is a script to fix it bundled with the debian mysql package. |
| 19:41.09 | abrotman | ThatAynRandFag: this is a support channel |
| 19:41.17 | ThatAynRandFag | sorry |
| 19:41.28 | ThatAynRandFag | where should I take my Q? |
| 19:41.34 | abrotman | and they voted on the blobs .. read the debian-vote stuff |
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| 19:43.28 | seth1246 | abrotman: sorry my internet connection went down and I couldn't get my nick back (seth1248). |
| 19:43.47 | abrotman | seth1246: try specifying the vesa driver |
| 19:44.39 | seth1246 | abrotman: Were any of the warnings from the Xorg.0.log relevant? |
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| 19:44.55 | abrotman | ThatAynRandFag: http://debian.org/vote/2008/vote_003 and lists.debian.org/debian-vote (for the archives) |
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| 19:47.11 | ThatAynRandFag | thanks |
| 19:47.20 | ThatAynRandFag | btw, I use debian |
| 19:47.28 | Ogedei | am I understanding correctly that acpid is being deprecated in favour of hal? |
| 19:47.31 | ThatAynRandFag | I just like Stallman's craziness |
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| 19:53.01 | becks` | oops :S i deleted /var/lib/mysql, but the mysql-server package doesn't add this after installation... anyone? :( |
| 19:53.42 | mrAZ | i installed new kernel dkpg -i ... , shouldnt be /vmlinuz be pointing to it? i get panic unable to mount fs. |
| 19:54.42 | bor0 | where can I find good, working "ATI Radeon Xpress 200M" display drivers for Debian? |
| 19:54.56 | bor0 | and how to install them? |
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| 19:55.48 | Sebboh- | Hi. How can I view all the fonts available to my xwindows system? For use in like, xterm. |
| 19:56.03 | Ogedei | after a dist-upgrade, my sid install is no longer firing the scripts in /etc/acpi/events . did anything change about the way acpid works? |
| 19:56.36 | bAndie9100 | xlsfonts |
| 19:56.47 | Sebboh- | ok |
| 19:56.50 | Sebboh- | thanks. |
| 19:56.52 | nkuttler | or xfontsel |
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| 19:57.06 | bAndie9100 | xfontsel |
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| 19:57.27 | abrotman | becks`: mysql-common probably |
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| 19:58.08 | bAndie9100 | i'm lookink for a horizontal news ticker for X display |
| 19:58.17 | bAndie9100 | know anybody? |
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| 19:59.31 | bododo | hi folks :) |
| 20:00.36 | seth1246 | abrotman: I changed xorg.conf to the vesa driver - at first the monitor gave me an icon I didn't recognize - so I altered xorg.conf and added default depth and a subsection display with Modes 1280x1024 etc... |
| 20:00.45 | bododo | I used to have 2-fingers scroll with my touchpad on ubuntu, but i don't have it anymore on debian. Is it a driver problem? |
| 20:00.52 | seth1246 | So now It works at least with the vesa driver. |
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| 20:02.34 | TauPan | bzed: thanks for those rules... unfortunately they don't work here |
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| 20:03.02 | bododo | is there a way to upgrade xfce on my freshly installed lenny? (without building it from sources)? |
| 20:03.14 | abrotman | !uupdate |
| 20:03.14 | dpkg | uupdate upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or eg. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz |
| 20:03.18 | abrotman | use at your own risk |
| 20:04.14 | bododo | abrotman: so I should add a new repo to /etc/apt/sources? |
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| 20:04.23 | hkais1 | hello |
| 20:04.24 | bododo | the sid one? |
| 20:04.32 | abrotman | uhm .. no |
| 20:04.34 | bododo | hello hkais1 |
| 20:04.37 | hkais1 | is it possible to see the IO-load of HDDs in bash? |
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| 20:04.53 | bododo | abrotman: what would you advise me? :) |
| 20:05.05 | abrotman | probably to install uupdate and read the docs |
| 20:06.01 | bododo | uupdate? i guess it's a package, right? (sorry, this is my day #2 with debian) |
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| 20:07.25 | bododo | abrotman: what if, say I add an other unstble repo to apt, and then do apt-get upgrade xfce4? |
| 20:07.36 | abrotman | you'll have a huge mess |
| 20:07.51 | bododo | ouch! |
| 20:08.02 | bododo | so I shouldn't... |
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| 20:08.58 | bododo | so I guess the easiest is to apt-get remove xfce, download the sources and build it on my own? :/ |
| 20:09.24 | Sebboh- | How do I see what font my current xterm is using? Also, I have a 200 dpi screen, and everything is tiny. Except in gtk apps.. is there a package I could install that has some really 'big' fonts? And, wtf doesn't this stuff scale? (How are gtk apps different that they display properly?) |
| 20:11.07 | abrotman | bododo: install uupdate and read the docs |
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| 20:12.03 | bododo | abrotman: ok, will do that! Thanks again :) |
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| 20:13.23 | hkais1 | is it possible to see the IO-load of HDDs in shell? |
| 20:13.29 | hkais1 | similar to top? |
| 20:13.35 | Taram | @ abrotman ...yes it was because of old version of iceweasel...now 3.0.9 is installed and flash woking |
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| 20:14.09 | bododo | abrotman: hum... package not found :( |
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| 20:14.19 | bododo | where should I download it from? |
| 20:14.33 | Jemt | Hi. How can I see the number of blocks that makes up a partition? fdisk displays one amount, df another when the partition is mounted. I know that fdisk assumes each block is 1K, but when I populated the partition using dd, I used the argument bs=4096 - so I quess each block is now 4K. |
| 20:14.41 | abrotman | hkais1: i think htop can |
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| 20:15.48 | abrotman | bododo: in the devscripts package |
| 20:16.06 | nickgrey147 | Any one know of a repo that as python v3 ? |
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| 20:16.20 | nickgrey147 | has* |
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| 20:16.24 | bododo | abrotman: sorry again. so I should do: apt)get install devscripts, right? |
| 20:16.42 | hkais1 | abrotman: which option is it in htop? |
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| 20:17.24 | abrotman | hkais1: look at the man page .. i honestly can't remember |
| 20:17.31 | abrotman | 'it might not even do it .. i just thought it did |
| 20:17.35 | bododo | installing it :) |
| 20:17.47 | bzed | TauPan: hmm that can't be :) |
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| 20:18.21 | bzed | TauPan: which phone do you have? |
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| 20:18.42 | bzed | TauPan: could you put the output of udevinfo -a -p $(udevinfo -q path -n /dev/usbdev2.17_ep81) into a pastebin? (replace the device with one of your phone) |
| 20:18.44 | TauPan | bzed: I suspect some other udev rule might take precedence. |
| 20:18.55 | hkais1 | abrotman: I couln't find any corresponding column/option. Maybe you could give me a hint? |
| 20:19.38 | TauPan | bzed: no matter which device? |
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| 20:20.26 | abrotman | hkais1: i was wrong .. it's not htop |
| 20:20.41 | abrotman | hkais1: you want it in real time ? |
| 20:21.07 | hkais1 | abrotman: it would be fine. |
| 20:21.12 | abrotman | hkais1: i'm looking |
| 20:21.17 | sladi | hkais1: sysstat |
| 20:21.21 | bookmark | is anyone here good with icedax? i can't get it to seperate my tracks or name them |
| 20:21.22 | hkais1 | why do you know one not realtime? |
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| 20:22.09 | bookmark | name them with cddb rather |
| 20:22.21 | TauPan | bzed: I've added a comment to your paste at http://paste.debian.net/36992/ |
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| 20:22.38 | abrotman | hkais1: saidar maybe ? |
| 20:22.41 | bookmark | i guess i need the cddb server but i don't know one. Does anyone know a free cddb server? |
| 20:22.42 | SRabbelier | how do I configure my timezone? nothing changes if I use system->administration->time and date |
| 20:22.50 | TauPan | bzed: hmpf, I should repaste, sorry |
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| 20:23.49 | TauPan | bzed: http://paste.debian.net/37001/ should be more readable |
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| 20:24.47 | TauPan | bzed: it's a regular T-Mobile G1 from german T-Mobile |
| 20:25.00 | abrotman | !timezone |
| 20:25.01 | dpkg | i heard timezone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" (Lenny, Squeeze) or "tzconfig" (Etch, Sarge). Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/20:25:01zone /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. See also <set time>. |
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| 20:25.56 | bzed | TauPan: that matches the udev rules |
| 20:26.12 | bzed | TauPan: what does dpkg -s udev | grep Version say? |
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| 20:26.28 | TauPan | Version: 0.141-1 |
| 20:26.39 | Barbaren | ok, this is a bit odd |
| 20:26.42 | TauPan | I said it was from testing. |
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| 20:26.58 | Barbaren | i updated from etch to lenny using apt-get dist-upgrade, but now i don't have apt-get anymore? |
| 20:26.59 | bzed | TauPan: try to link them into /etc/rules.d/90-whatever |
| 20:27.00 | Barbaren | what to do? |
| 20:27.13 | bzed | TauPan: on 91 the permission rules are executed |
| 20:27.32 | bzed | TauPan: probably thats the problem... if not, I run out of ideas... works well here |
| 20:27.45 | TauPan | currently it's linked to /etc/udev/rules.d/90-android-rules |
| 20:27.59 | bzed | TauPan: make that .rules |
| 20:28.08 | TauPan | ouch! |
| 20:28.17 | bzed | TauPan: I could imagine tha tudev looks for .rules only |
| 20:28.41 | Barbaren | anyone? |
| 20:28.54 | TauPan | Yay! |
| 20:29.00 | TauPan | I didn't see the dot... |
| 20:29.17 | TauPan | somehow I read it as 90-android-rules instead of 90-android.rules |
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| 20:29.29 | bzed | TauPan: :) |
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| 20:29.44 | TauPan | bzed: works exactly as in your paste, thanks a lot! |
| 20:29.54 | bzed | TauPan: you're welcome |
| 20:30.11 | jaek | can anyone try to help me fix my apt-get upgrade? this is ubuntu 9.04 but everyone in #ubuntu are useless... : http://pastebin.com/m6884223f |
| 20:30.33 | TauPan | now I need to newgrp or log back in to get into that shiny privileged androiddev group... or I'll switch back to "$myusername" ;-} |
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| 20:32.09 | OpenTokix | jaek: You can find supernice install-cd's of debian at www.debian.org |
| 20:32.14 | coniptor | Anyone know what causes text output from apt-get to step? |
| 20:32.26 | Barbaren | I need some help, I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny using apt-get dist-upgrade, now I've somehow lost aptitude/apt-get! What do I do? Install aptitude from source? |
| 20:32.30 | TauPan | bzed: so if you're working on udev rules for android, could it be that there's an android sdk package under way? ;-D |
| 20:32.38 | dondelelcaro | Barbaren: lost in what way? |
| 20:32.50 | Barbaren | it's not there :) |
| 20:32.54 | Barbaren | it's not on slocate |
| 20:33.06 | Barbaren | binary doesn't run! |
| 20:33.25 | dondelelcaro | Barbaren: what does ls -l /usr/bin|grep apt; say? what does dpkg -l apt; say? do you still have wget? |
| 20:33.29 | dondelelcaro | (and dpkg?) |
| 20:33.39 | bzed | TauPan: I'd love to package that, but I don't have enough time for it. Guess I need to find a customer who needs it so I can do it at work :) |
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| 20:35.26 | Barbaren | dondelelcaro, this is what i get: http://pastie.org/ |
| 20:35.28 | Barbaren | i still have wget |
| 20:35.33 | Barbaren | but i've lost "man" |
| 20:35.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | wtf happened there |
| 20:36.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | and that isn't a paste |
| 20:36.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's just the site to have a paste |
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| 20:36.24 | Barbaren | whops |
| 20:36.33 | Barbaren | this is what i get: http://pastie.org/488388 |
| 20:36.35 | Barbaren | sorry |
| 20:36.44 | dondelelcaro | Barbaren: and for dpkg -l apt; ? |
| 20:36.56 | Barbaren | it's in there |
| 20:37.14 | dondelelcaro | Barbaren: it shows ii in the first two columns, right? |
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| 20:37.36 | Barbaren | no |
| 20:37.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | no... rc |
| 20:37.42 | TauPan | bzed: too bad I can't help you with that :) |
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| 20:38.26 | Barbaren | i think my system is seriously screwed :( |
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| 20:38.45 | dondelelcaro | Barbaren: then you're going to need to wget the apt deb for lenny and your architecture from packages.debian.org, and dpkg -i |
| 20:39.01 | dondelelcaro | Barbaren: then use that to install aptitude and reinstall anything else that you've managed to remove |
| 20:39.14 | Barbaren | ok |
| 20:39.20 | Barbaren | i will try this out |
| 20:39.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | Barbaren, (for i386) http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.7.20.2+lenny1_i386.deb |
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| 20:39.56 | Barbaren | thanks |
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| 20:43.00 | bzed | TauPan: http://bzed.de/ :) |
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| 20:43.42 | TauPan | Ah, that's great... that'll help other android devs on linux, I'm sure |
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| 20:44.38 | TauPan | uhm, what's fastboot btw? |
| 20:45.22 | TauPan | ah, I see |
| 20:45.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | android's not debian-based though, or is it? |
| 20:45.36 | TauPan | nope, it isn't |
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| 20:45.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | it became OSS, though, I see |
| 20:45.57 | TauPan | it doesn't expose a linux userland to the regular user at all |
| 20:46.13 | TauPan | you can however quite easily get shell access |
| 20:46.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it's easy to hack , though |
| 20:46.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah... |
| 20:46.24 | TauPan | well |
| 20:46.33 | bzed | :D |
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| 20:46.40 | bzed | rooting the G1 is a must *cough* :) |
| 20:47.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I got maemo running on a N810, but the closed-sourceness goes on my nerves.... |
| 20:47.10 | TauPan | I'm reluctant to root my phone. It doesn't look like there are good firmware replacements available for german phones. |
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| 20:47.29 | bzed | TauPan: http://www.android-hilfe.de/t-mobile-g1-forum/1158-howto-root-mit-goldcard-loesung.html |
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| 20:47.36 | TauPan | And I really don't have time to do my own build. |
| 20:47.47 | bzed | TauPan: I'm running the JesusFreke firmware on mine.. its US, but it works.. |
| 20:47.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | we should actually go to #debian-offtopic or somewhere with this |
| 20:48.16 | bzed | TauPan: guess a UK verison (which includes the german one) will be out soon, too... if not I'll build one I guess... next month when I have the time fo rit |
| 20:49.30 | TauPan | bzed: oh, that's a better howto than the ones I found so far |
| 20:49.53 | bzed | CutMeOwnThroat: true... |
| 20:49.59 | TauPan | bzed: it even recommends a german firmware replacement, which I failed to find so far |
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| 20:51.10 | bzed | TauPan: the UK firmware contains the german stuff |
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| 20:51.29 | bzed | I'm still not sure if I really want to add debian on my phone |
| 20:51.36 | bzed | can't see a real reason to do it |
| 20:51.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | infidel! |
| 20:52.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | no reason? |
| 20:52.29 | TauPan | what real advantages are there to root that phone even? |
| 20:52.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | how else can you run bittorrent on your phone |
| 20:52.56 | bzed | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm root and I have a development kit. I can install whatever I want... |
| 20:53.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | my point exactly |
| 20:53.19 | bzed | TauPan: multitouch screen, umts connection tethering via bluetooth and wlan... |
| 20:53.34 | TauPan | oh yeah... tethering... I forgot about that :) |
| 20:53.53 | TauPan | but you lose ota-updates don't you? |
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| 20:54.09 | bzed | TauPan: installing apps on sdcard instead of the 72M memory in the phone |
| 20:54.29 | bzed | TauPan: yeah, no OTA updates... that's a feature, though, I guess :P |
| 20:55.08 | TauPan | do apps still run sandboxed under their own userid? can you grant "root permission" to certain apps on download, or how does the security model work after you've rooted your phone? |
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| 20:56.03 | bzed | TauPan: lets go to #debian-offtopic before somebody cries here :) |
| 20:56.09 | TauPan | k |
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| 20:56.39 | johny-b-goode | Hello People. |
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| 20:57.09 | johny-b-goode | when in console hitting the backspace or up arrow more times than necessary, the darn thing beep thru pc speakers like crazy. Does anyone know how to turn that off? |
| 20:57.24 | petemc | !bell |
| 20:57.24 | dpkg | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. In kernel 2.6.26 and later, modprobe -r snd-pcsp, then <blacklist> the snd-pcsp module. Also ask me about <shell beep>. |
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| 20:57.59 | RaymondX | isnt that set at the cmos? |
| 20:58.24 | petemc | the above works |
| 20:58.56 | johny-b-goode | thanks very much. the xset b worked great. Now does that disable all bells? Or does it just disable shell or X bells? |
| 20:58.58 | Jemt | How do I find the number of block on a partition ? |
| 20:59.02 | Jemt | blocks* |
| 20:59.13 | johny-b-goode | maybe if the computer needs to beep for other kernel level issues that should be ok.... |
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| 20:59.30 | RaymondX | gparted? |
| 20:59.37 | petemc | johny-b-goode: xset works for x, setterm for console |
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| 21:00.05 | johny-b-goode | petemc: may should have read that more carefully. |
| 21:00.13 | petemc | :) |
| 21:00.29 | johny-b-goode | petemc: thanks. :) Finally it won't drive me bananas in vi when hitting j or k and reaching limits of files. |
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| 21:02.14 | johny-b-goode | now if this ssl thing works, it would be peachy. |
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| 21:03.58 | Sazpaimon | I've got a bash script here that only really works well if the processes it executes run one at a time. I'd like to make the bash script wait if it detects that another instance of it is already running, how would I do this |
| 21:04.00 | hoohah | hello how do i change keymap at console? I can do it all manually fine, but automatically is hard. basically, i hacked us keymap to have capslock to control, gziped, and install-keymap'd |
| 21:04.35 | atomiku | What repository contains PHP5.2.9 DEB? |
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| 21:07.45 | petemc | !keymap |
| 21:07.45 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 21:07.51 | elgopher | hello everyone |
| 21:07.59 | elgopher | how can i downgrade from amd64 to i386? |
| 21:08.02 | ootput | petemc: what of custom keymaps? |
| 21:08.12 | petemc | you could use loadkeys for that |
| 21:08.25 | hoohah | petemc: yes i have custom keymap |
| 21:08.45 | hoohah | petemc: loadkeys is not permanent (noot auto at boot) |
| 21:08.48 | hoohah | i tried |
| 21:08.52 | petemc | you put in in bashrc or whatever |
| 21:08.52 | Sazpaimon | elgopher, no |
| 21:09.20 | Sazpaimon | you can attempt to use a 32 bit kernel, but changing the OS to 32 bit would require a reinstall |
| 21:09.31 | hoohah | petemc: before install-keymap worked fine |
| 21:09.36 | hoohah | something debian changed |
| 21:09.37 | petemc | fantastic then |
| 21:09.47 | hoohah | petemc: no need to answer further. thanks |
| 21:09.57 | elgopher | ok ok |
| 21:10.06 | elgopher | i'll reinstall then |
| 21:10.10 | elgopher | thanks |
| 21:10.28 | sylar | can dd out to two disks at once? |
| 21:10.50 | hoohah | twat of a human being |
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| 21:11.12 | petemc | !customer |
| 21:11.12 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building |
| 21:12.08 | bor0 | question - when trying to connect to a (samba) file share server from X in debian all the files are truncated.. for example bor0.exe is bor0.ex, dir Temporary is Temporar |
| 21:12.13 | valdyn | sylar: tee can, dd can pipe |
| 21:12.29 | bor0 | any solution to this? |
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| 21:14.23 | valdyn | bor0: "apparently it's a known bug of smbclient and libsmbclient fixed in backports" |
| 21:14.30 | valdyn | bor0: i only googled, look it up for yourself |
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| 21:14.44 | bor0 | I found that on google, but what's backports? |
| 21:14.50 | valdyn | !backports |
| 21:14.51 | dpkg | backport is, like, a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 21:15.01 | bor0 | thank you |
| 21:15.18 | valdyn | bor0: he's referring to http://backports.org methinks |
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| 21:16.12 | bookmark_ | hello, so because mp3 programs are in the contrib section does that mean anything about their legal status? |
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| 21:16.26 | valdyn | bookmark_: no |
| 21:16.35 | valdyn | bookmark_: it means they are dfsg compliant |
| 21:16.49 | bookmark_ | are mp3 programs in violation of any patent infringments? |
| 21:16.58 | RaymondX | mpg321 <<< my favorite mp3player :) |
| 21:17.03 | valdyn | bookmark_: no, the codecs are |
| 21:17.08 | bookmark_ | like encoders i mean though |
| 21:17.28 | valdyn | bookmark_: we're not your laywers, if youre in the US, then software patents might apply |
| 21:17.32 | bookmark_ | ok so..... the players are ok, but encoders are patent infringments? |
| 21:17.37 | valdyn | bookmark_: elsewhere they do not |
| 21:18.00 | valdyn | bookmark_: players in contrib depend on a codec that is probably in non-free |
| 21:18.02 | valdyn | !contrib |
| 21:18.03 | dpkg | hmm... contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [etch|lenny|squeeze|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Also ask me about <non-free>. |
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| 21:20.51 | Pnux | call me an idiot, but i really cant find it.. can anybody point me to where i can get the testing branch with KDE image from debian.org? |
| 21:21.15 | valdyn | Pnux: dont try, get the stable installer and upgrade later |
| 21:21.39 | Pnux | ok, where can i find that? |
| 21:21.53 | valdyn | !d-i |
| 21:21.53 | dpkg | 5.0 lenny is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Etch is still available from http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ . Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot @ irc.oftc.net. Also ask me about <errata>. |
| 21:22.37 | Pnux | i mean the version with KDE |
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| 21:22.55 | valdyn | Pnux: me too |
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| 21:23.56 | Pnux | valdyn: ok got it, thanks |
| 21:24.04 | abrotman | Pnux: use the lenny installer .. install lenny .. go to squeeze, then install kde |
| 21:24.26 | kanon-mat | to you mean a live kde, Pnux? |
| 21:24.45 | krisfremen | what is the easiest way to limit a network interface's speed? |
| 21:24.48 | Pnux | i mean a Debian that doesnt come with GNOME |
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| 21:25.37 | kanon-mat | just dont check the square that says "desktop environment" |
| 21:25.38 | Pnux | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-kde-CD-1.iso seems to be what i need |
| 21:26.15 | avu | Pnux, why download the whole KDE if you're going to update it to squeeze minutes after installation anyway? |
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| 21:26.30 | avu | Pnux, just do what abrotman said, install a minimal lenny, upgrade, /then/ install KDE |
| 21:26.54 | kanon-mat | a minimal lenny has no gnome |
| 21:27.06 | abrotman | Pnux: use the netinst .. don't install anything else .. go to squeeze |
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| 21:27.36 | RaymondX | deselect "desktop" during installation so it wont install gnome |
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| 21:28.18 | RaymondX | just select the base system |
| 21:28.29 | avu | I usually skip running tasksel all together |
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| 21:29.36 | Pnux | i dont mind having to download the cd image now and then update |
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| 21:30.37 | Pnux | so unless theres a really good reason besides time and bandwidth, ill install the KDE version then dist-upgrade |
| 21:30.41 | Pnux | is there? |
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| 21:32.24 | Pnux | and the thing is that i might not upgrade minutes after the installation, it might take me a few days, maybe even weeks |
| 21:33.05 | avu | the bandwidth argument should be good enough for anyone with a bit of common decency :( |
| 21:33.48 | avu | you share the limited bandwidth of the debian mirrors, which are provided for free by nice individuals, with the whole community |
| 21:34.21 | dondelelcaro | there actually isn't much of a limit on our mirror bandwidth |
| 21:34.32 | dondelelcaro | (so long as you're not using the primary ones, anyway) |
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| 21:34.58 | avu | 23:25 < Pnux> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-kde-CD-1.iso seems to be |
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| 21:36.40 | rjaym | has anyone had any experience w/bluray and cdrtools? |
| 21:36.42 | avu | also, technically there is of course a limit. and not knowing what exactly that is in your given part of the world or on the mirror you like/use, it's just common decency to not waste it IMO |
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| 21:38.16 | PiousMinion | Does network-manager have some sort of logging mechanism? My wifi connects for 1 second and then disconnects without reason. |
| 21:39.00 | avu | PiousMinion, had a look at dmesg and/or syslog? |
| 21:39.20 | avu | PiousMinion, if network-manager has its own logs, they can probably be found in /var/log as well |
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| 21:39.45 | avu | PiousMinion, I seem to remember it using syslog though |
| 21:39.47 | PiousMinion | avu: one would think, but no. :/ |
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| 21:40.17 | pickcoder | I have lenny running under virtualbox on a windows box. can I install the guest-utils from the repos to enable mount shares? |
| 21:40.21 | avu | PiousMinion, and in general, information about what's going on with your hardware (ie bringing up/tearing down of network interfaces) should always be noted in dmesg |
| 21:40.33 | PiousMinion | avu: I do see some things in syslog, but can't make much sense of it. |
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| 21:40.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | why's everyone using this network-manager stuff? |
| 21:40.52 | pickcoder | I'm assuming I need to switch to the guest kernel |
| 21:40.58 | avu | CutMeOwnThroat, beats me |
| 21:40.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and failing) |
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| 21:41.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, perhaps makes sense for a laptop with lots of unencrypted wireless connections around |
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| 21:41.44 | avu | CutMeOwnThroat, I think it comes with the desktop task in lenny though |
| 21:41.52 | PiousMinion | aye |
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| 21:42.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | but most of them having some having some ssl login-page |
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| 21:42.19 | avu | PiousMinion, if you don't understand the messages in syslog, try pasting them into google |
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| 21:42.38 | avu | PiousMinion, (removing any host-specific stuff like exact interface names and such) |
| 21:43.00 | master_of_master | hi, I've got a problem with ldap@TLS and passwd. If I have TLS enabled after a while I can't change the password: 'passwd: Cannot determine your user name. |
| 21:43.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | but really, all that should happen in silence in the background... |
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| 21:43.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | apropos ... http://xkcd.com/416/ |
| 21:43.22 | PiousMinion | avu: I seem to have the most trouble understanding "<info> Activation (eth1) failure scheduled..." Why would it be scheduling my failures.? lol |
| 21:43.47 | avu | PiousMinion, again, ask google |
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| 21:44.16 | SQlvpapir | is debootstrap the appropriate approach to install a fresh system to a harddisk for use in an actual machine? (in lack of usb keys, CDs etc.) |
| 21:44.25 | avu | PiousMinion, I'm sure quite a few people already were as confused about this as you are now and asked mailing lists or blogged about there findings and stuff like that :) |
| 21:44.37 | SQlvpapir | !dpkg debootstrap |
| 21:44.37 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips#s-chroot . It is key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <i-g>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 21:44.44 | agaran | SQlvpapir: network ? |
| 21:44.46 | avu | SQlvpapir, not sure about 'appropriate' but it's a working solution |
| 21:45.00 | avu | SQlvpapir, be sure to read the installation guide on the topic |
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| 21:45.16 | avu | SQlvpapir, since you have to do some things manually after running debootstrap for the system to be bootable |
| 21:45.24 | PiousMinion | CutMeOwnThroat: what would you recommend I use if I want it to actively scan for APs and connect to preconfigured ones? |
| 21:45.29 | SQlvpapir | agaran: hmm I guess pxe would work. |
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| 21:46.51 | PiousMinion | SQlvpapir: --> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 21:46.57 | SQlvpapir | avu: I'll start with pxe so I can deploy easy in the future |
| 21:47.50 | SQlvpapir | thanks for the link! :-) |
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| 21:52.10 | hoohah | hello how do i search available packages for a particular tool? i'm after rtf2html |
| 21:52.30 | avu | !tell hoohah about search |
| 21:52.35 | abrotman | hoohah: aptitude install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search rtf2html |
| 21:52.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | is dpkg ignoring you again? :) |
| 21:52.56 | hoohah | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:53.09 | abrotman | no ... i just typed it out |
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| 21:53.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | like... for fun? |
| 21:53.34 | DexterF | hi |
| 21:53.54 | abrotman | like .. no idea man :) |
| 21:53.56 | hoohah | CutMeOwnThroat: me? |
| 21:54.07 | DexterF | I can't find slocate resp. updatedb in lenny - that out of fashion..? |
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| 21:54.37 | hoohah | DexterF: no slocate avail here either |
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| 21:55.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 21:55.28 | hoohah | DexterF: found http://bugs.debian.org/457565 |
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| 21:55.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | DexterF, replaced by mlocate |
| 21:55.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | superseded |
| 21:56.04 | DexterF | which actually is better. thanks. |
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| 21:58.34 | DexterF | I don't get it... I got a usb audio device which has no hardware mixer, nevertheless it works out of the box on lenny without an asoundrc or whatever with aRts disabled in kde and no other sound server but on another distro it doesn't. how the heck does debian do it? |
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| 21:59.08 | abrotman | !magic |
| 21:59.09 | dpkg | well, magic is a tool and i am its taskmaster |
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| 22:01.06 | agaran | bpo == backports i am right? |
| 22:01.28 | ajavid | how can I specify aptitude to hold every single kde3 package on my system and not upgrade it to 4.x |
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| 22:01.37 | abrotman | agaran: usually |
| 22:01.49 | abrotman | ajavid: just embrace kde4 |
| 22:01.52 | pickcoder | abrotman: have you done anything with virtualbox? |
| 22:01.56 | ajavid | :( |
| 22:02.07 | abrotman | ajavid: how long are you going to put it off? |
| 22:02.11 | abrotman | pickcoder: nothing useful |
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| 22:02.29 | ajavid | abrotman, I don't like kde4 |
| 22:02.36 | ajavid | abrotman, I only like kde3 |
| 22:02.37 | pickcoder | trying to mount an external share with vboxsf type.. no workie |
| 22:02.49 | agaran | is there any dumbies howto to pinning? |
| 22:02.51 | abrotman | ajavid: you've got choices a) use lenny b) suck it up and use kde4 c) find another WM/DE |
| 22:02.58 | pickcoder | !pinning |
| 22:02.59 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
| 22:03.11 | abrotman | pickcoder: that'd be farther than i got with it |
| 22:03.31 | ajavid | abrotman, how about telling aptitude to hold all kde34 packages? |
| 22:03.38 | ajavid | 3* |
| 22:03.39 | pickcoder | 5.0 runs pretty smoothly even under KDE |
| 22:03.52 | pickcoder | wish I could assign more than one proc |
| 22:03.53 | abrotman | ajavid: until when? when your machine is using an insecure konqueror and your system gets hosed because of it? |
| 22:04.01 | abrotman | pickcoder: there is #vbox ? |
| 22:04.20 | pickcoder | if I get to that point, I'll look |
| 22:04.21 | ajavid | :( |
| 22:04.38 | ajavid | why can't debian make kde3 available alongside, so we can chose |
| 22:04.54 | DexterF | ajavid: curios: backports on lenny? |
| 22:04.54 | abrotman | ajavid: are you going to help maintain the pile of goo ? |
| 22:05.13 | ajavid | argh |
| 22:05.17 | agaran | !backports |
| 22:05.18 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package#s-port, http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 22:05.30 | abrotman | ajavid: seriously .. you can't put it off forever .. |
| 22:05.54 | ajavid | waaaaaaannnnnn wwwwaaaaaaannnn |
| 22:06.01 | ajavid | godamit ok fine. |
| 22:06.09 | abrotman | ajavid: did you try another WM like XFCE or something ? |
| 22:06.21 | ajavid | yessir, doesn't tickle my pickle |
| 22:06.36 | abrotman | ajavid: e17! |
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| 22:06.45 | ajavid | oldschool |
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| 22:06.55 | abrotman | lots of people like lxde ? |
| 22:07.04 | abrotman | 5dwm! |
| 22:07.12 | ajavid | yeh I tried it, its not for me, I'm just down with the kde3 man |
| 22:07.15 | abrotman | how is e17 old school ? |
| 22:07.23 | ajavid | I don't like anything else really, but I can use anything, its not a big deal |
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| 22:07.42 | ajavid | I've got kde 3.5.10 from testing on unstable, pinned, now pinning is broken as testing also has kde4 |
| 22:07.48 | ajavid | which is just infuriating |
| 22:08.02 | ajavid | so I was looking to tell aptitude to hold all kde packages and not upgrade them |
| 22:08.15 | abrotman | you can use a wild card .. but you're just delaying breakage |
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| 22:08.19 | ajavid | I was looking to do it in one shot, instead of having to tell aptitude about each kde3 package myself |
| 22:08.34 | abrotman | hehe .. you could use XPde :) |
| 22:08.36 | ajavid | like aptitude hold kde* |
| 22:08.45 | ajavid | hehe xp de, nice one |
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| 22:08.51 | abrotman | it's not a joke |
| 22:08.58 | abrotman | http://www.xpde.com/ |
| 22:09.03 | ajavid | i know |
| 22:09.07 | ajavid | its a joke that I'd use anyting xp lookalike |
| 22:09.21 | abrotman | wonder if it supports the windows classic theme |
| 22:09.26 | pickcoder | heh |
| 22:09.29 | pickcoder | that's funny |
| 22:09.31 | ajavid | ooh I like that one |
| 22:09.40 | ajavid | I love the windows 95 classic theme |
| 22:10.03 | abrotman | dunno .. lxde doesn't look awful |
| 22:10.13 | abrotman | not sure what your current kde3 setup is .. but it might be okay |
| 22:10.14 | ajavid | well if anything I'd go with xfce4 |
| 22:10.35 | pickcoder | I'll have to load that in a vbox session and play with it |
| 22:10.36 | ajavid | well, I have compiz confusion + kde3 + whatever else |
| 22:10.47 | abrotman | i meant what it looks like .. not the other sutff |
| 22:10.49 | ajavid | pickcoder, xnest + diff wm? |
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| 22:11.02 | abrotman | lxde looks like some kde3 setups i've seen |
| 22:11.06 | ajavid | no need for a full vm just to try out a wm |
| 22:11.08 | pickcoder | ajavid: what? |
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| 22:11.26 | ajavid | huh? |
| 22:11.41 | pickcoder | xnest what? |
| 22:11.48 | ajavid | what? |
| 22:12.12 | abrotman | maybe you two should stop trying to talk to each other :) |
| 22:12.15 | ajavid | if you want to try another wm without unloading the one you're using you can try it in another xnest session without having nto restart x |
| 22:12.29 | ajavid | I have no idea what you're talking about anyway im gonna shaddup |
| 22:12.46 | ajavid | or wm --replace whatever * |
| 22:12.58 | ajavid | hm I have an idea |
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| 22:13.14 | ajavid | what if I completely remove kde from my system, simply keep x installed, install the dev packages, and build kde3 from source |
| 22:13.56 | ajavid | that way aptitude won't try to fuck me over |
| 22:13.57 | ajavid | no more breakage either |
| 22:13.57 | abrotman | isn't kde3 dead upstream ? |
| 22:13.57 | ajavid | sources are available always |
| 22:13.57 | ajavid | old versions etc. |
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| 22:15.13 | ajavid | btw I got zend studio to run in amd64, there was an ia32lib-gtk something package that I needed to install |
| 22:15.13 | abrotman | that doesn't mean they're being supported |
| 22:15.22 | abrotman | you're being pretty darn stubborn .. just find another WM |
| 22:15.33 | agaran | what provides asm/unaligned.h in debian/lenny, or how to ask dpkg ? |
| 22:15.38 | ajavid | man... I know man.. I dunno man. |
| 22:15.40 | ajavid | you know |
| 22:15.45 | agaran | i mean tool not bot |
| 22:15.46 | abrotman | !tell agaran about apt-file |
| 22:15.47 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: happy ? |
| 22:16.19 | ajavid | ia32-libs-gtk |
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| 22:16.55 | ajavid | why this package is required in order to run zend studio which is a java app is beyond me. I imagined eclipse using awt or swing or whatever java toolkit gui it has |
| 22:17.10 | agaran | abrotman: thank you |
| 22:17.24 | ajavid | obviously java uses gtk look n feel if thats present on the system, and another thing, why did eclipse not run on amd64, and it requires ia32 java |
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| 22:17.36 | ajavid | isn't zend studio an addon on eclipse? |
| 22:17.56 | ajavid | it should run where ever java is regardless of arch |
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| 22:18.23 | bododo | hi folks :) |
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| 22:18.27 | ajavid | hello |
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| 22:18.46 | bododo | my console and terminals don't support accents in chars (french chars) |
| 22:19.02 | bododo | is this a locale pb? and if so, how can I fix it? :) |
| 22:19.20 | ajavid | probably |
| 22:19.25 | ajavid | bododo, dpkg-reconfigure locales? |
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| 22:19.44 | bododo | ajavid: greatÃ! thanks I'll try :) |
| 22:21.43 | ajavid | debian sid has has netbeans 6.0 for the longest time |
| 22:21.50 | ajavid | netbeans ide is upto 6.7 now |
| 22:21.56 | ajavid | has this been orphaned? |
| 22:22.32 | ajavid | it seems that way |
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| 22:29.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, great job! |
| 22:30.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | ajavid, ratpoison! |
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| 22:31.03 | user_corrupt | I just installed debian so that I could use my wintv card with some CCTV software...how might I go about looking to see if it is running correctly? |
| 22:31.21 | agaran | i compiled own kernel, installed,removed and few times, now after purgin all them i still see them in dpkg -l linux-image\* how to clean list? |
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| 22:32.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, you still see old packages, becaue removing the package doesn't remove the configuration files (you'll see "rc") dpkg --purge package |
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| 22:33.28 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: dpkg -P i use |
| 22:33.40 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: and i still see them (uninstaled, etc but still) |
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| 22:34.18 | nobuddy | hi, im trying to install with debian-501-i386-netinst.iso, but the kernel doesnt loads |
| 22:34.30 | kingsley | Can the "pstree" command report the same processes as "ps aux", and if so, how? |
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| 22:34.37 | nobuddy | I've set acpi off |
| 22:34.47 | nobuddy | kingsley: pstree -a ? |
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| 22:35.18 | kingsley | nobuddy: I thought -a might work too, and I tried it, but it didn't report two processes. |
| 22:35.19 | ootput | kingsley: do you understand what the 'aux' bit is for? |
| 22:35.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, linux-headers-2.6.29-1-common |
| 22:35.27 | Getty | i upgraded some xen domU to 5.0 debian and now i get those TLS error about wrong libc6 but i already installed the libc6-xen AND also disabled tls, someone with a hint? |
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| 22:35.34 | ootput | kingsley: might help to consult both man pages |
| 22:35.40 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: thank you, testing i assume? |
| 22:36.05 | nobuddy | help ? :D |
| 22:36.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, hmmm, no - nowhere it seems |
| 22:36.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | now that you ask that |
| 22:36.48 | ootput | nobuddy: at which point does the kernel not load? |
| 22:36.54 | agaran | nobuddy: kernel or something hangs? |
| 22:37.35 | nobuddy | It just says loading install.i386/vmlinuz. |
| 22:37.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, just search for unaligned.h, not asm/unaligned.h |
| 22:37.38 | nobuddy | dies |
| 22:38.06 | abrotman | nobuddy: did you try acpi=off and noapic ? |
| 22:38.26 | nobuddy | noapic |
| 22:38.28 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: o, that might be something, thank you |
| 22:38.32 | nobuddy | noapic |
| 22:38.38 | nobuddy | I think that might be it |
| 22:38.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, it's x86-asm :) |
| 22:38.41 | nobuddy | ok trying |
| 22:38.58 | nickgrey147 | my money is on acpi=off |
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| 22:40.32 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: yep, now i have to find how to force dpkg/apt to make symlinks (i know that i can do that by hand but it isnt right way i think) |
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| 22:41.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, what is it you're trying to do... and why |
| 22:41.52 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: i need kernel headers for nic diagnostic i try to compile |
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| 22:42.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, kernel module or full kernel? |
| 22:42.39 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: and i was thinging that some package if provides headers provide also dpkg-reconfigure or something script that setups proper symlinks to headers |
| 22:42.54 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: tool that digs deep |
| 22:43.01 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: vortex-diag |
| 22:43.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | agaran, kernel-headers are normally not managed by symlinks - make-kpkg sets the correct environment vairables for a module/kernel compile and that's it |
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| 22:44.00 | neur0x | hey |
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| 22:44.48 | SRabbelier | I've got a .deb file with some unmet dependencies, how can I automagically install those? |
| 22:44.54 | agaran | CutMeOwnThroat: but i installed stock kernel.. |
| 22:45.48 | abrotman | SRabbelier: aptitude -f install |
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| 22:46.44 | SRabbelier | abrotman: ah, I tried installing the package with aptitude, but if I do 'aptitude install foo.deb' it goes searching for 'foo.deb' online |
| 22:47.18 | SRabbelier | is confused now, as it's working |
| 22:47.20 | SRabbelier | shrugs |
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| 22:48.08 | nobuddy | Nope |
| 22:48.22 | nobuddy | noapic didnt worked, alone, or in combination with acpi=off |
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| 22:49.18 | nobuddy | still cant boot |
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| 22:50.45 | agaran | nobuddy: hmm, what machine you have? |
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| 22:51.28 | nobuddy | model name: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz |
| 22:52.07 | nobuddy | agaran: It's a vaio laptop if that helps |
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| 22:53.09 | agaran | nobuddy: but you have linux there? just debian netboot don't want to load? |
| 22:53.37 | nobuddy | I have linux yes |
| 22:53.41 | nobuddy | correct |
| 22:54.13 | agaran | maybe try to get debian kernel and just boot it from existing bootloader, if it hangs, then you have some info and don't break currently working linux |
| 22:54.20 | agaran | then you can try debbotstrap? |
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| 22:55.29 | nobuddy | I'll try to boot the debian kernel |
| 22:55.32 | jaek | is there any reason why i shouldn't install UNR on a desktop? |
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| 22:59.13 | nobuddy | cp: reading `/mnt/cdrom/install.386/vmlinuz': Input/output error |
| 22:59.17 | nobuddy | great |
| 22:59.20 | goose | trying to compile a counter-strike dedicated server, I get the following error: extracting /usr/steam/hlds_l_1120_full.tgz... <new line> hlds_l_1120_full.bin: error extracting payload, No such file or directory |
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| 23:37.03 | fanti | hello! how do i find out which debian package contains that file (which is currently not installed, but i want have it) /usr/include/X11/fonts/fontmod.h |
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| 23:37.34 | neur0x | dpkg -S? |
| 23:37.35 | dpkg | i don't know, neur0x |
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| 23:37.44 | bododo | hi folks! |
| 23:38.02 | fanti | neur0x: doesn't dpkg -S only search packages that are installed? |
| 23:38.03 | bododo | is xfce 4.6 available in lenny-backports? |
| 23:38.17 | bododo | the search form is backports.org doesn't work foe me |
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| 23:39.05 | wohdfoh | i'm getting an errror about a key not being available while running aptitude update |
| 23:39.08 | neur0x | ammm |
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| 23:39.24 | neur0x | then try -L |
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| 23:39.34 | neur0x | -L | grep |
| 23:39.38 | CrazyTux | Hey guys what package should I apt-get on Debian for micromedia flash player for iceweasel |
| 23:40.10 | fanti | neur0x: dpkg -L fontmod.h results in "Package fontmod.h is not installed" |
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| 23:40.55 | fanti | neur0x: i need to compile xorg-server from apt source myself, but dpkg-buildpackage complains about missing file fontmod.h (apt-get build-dep was already done) |
| 23:41.59 | dmoerner | fanti, it's in libxfont-dev |
| 23:42.11 | wohdfoh | nm |
| 23:42.21 | fanti | dmoerner: libxfont-dev is already the newest version. |
| 23:42.28 | fanti | dmoerner: but the file does not exists |
| 23:43.24 | fanti | on current debian/testing |
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| 23:45.18 | fanti | no more ideas? |
| 23:45.39 | neur0x | wait Fanisk |
| 23:45.42 | neur0x | fanti, * |
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| 23:46.17 | esonediw | hy |
| 23:46.42 | esonediw | does anyone whave working rapidshare link for Terminator salvation (plz, no cam) SCR or TS |
| 23:46.43 | esonediw | ? |
| 23:46.55 | esonediw | i have a rapidshare PREMIUM acct. :)) |
| 23:47.23 | Zyferus | This is probably not the place to ask for that |
| 23:48.22 | fanti | if it matters, i'm using -amd64 |
| 23:48.58 | esonediw | Zyferus: ok plz. tell me in pvt. msg. if u have |
| 23:48.59 | esonediw | ok? |
| 23:49.09 | neur0x | mm |
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| 23:49.21 | neur0x | do you have amd64 repos? |
| 23:49.29 | fanti | yes |
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| 23:50.25 | neur0x | hey fanti |
| 23:50.27 | Ariel_Calzada | hi i updated my debian squeeze and the multimedia shortcut ( fn+volume up ) don't work |
| 23:50.30 | neur0x | http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=fontmod.h |
| 23:50.36 | foolhardy | howdy people, was wondering if I could get some assistance with 'mdadm' and a RAID5 array with an issue. |
| 23:52.08 | fanti | neur0x: thx, but libxfont-dev is installed |
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| 23:52.22 | fanti | ii libxfont-dev 1:1.4.0-1 |
| 23:52.51 | neur0x | you try: locate fontmod.h? |
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| 23:53.24 | fanti | find / -name fontmod.h did nothing find |
| 23:53.42 | neur0x | file /usr/include/X11/fonts/fontmod.h |
| 23:53.44 | neur0x | ¿? |
| 23:53.47 | neur0x | is very strange |
| 23:54.21 | fanti | the directory exists, and there are many files, but no fontmod.h |
| 23:55.13 | fanti | hmm maybe a broken package? |
| 23:55.46 | neur0x | dpkg -L libxfont-dev | grep fontmod |
| 23:55.46 | dpkg | No packages found matching libxfont-dev | grep fontmod |
| 23:55.47 | neur0x | :) |
| 23:56.12 | neur0x | /usr/include/X11/fonts/fontmod.h |
| 23:56.58 | fanti | hmm not in the libxfont-dev package i installed ... mmmmh |
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| 23:59.26 | neur0x | you have installed libxfont-dev |
| 23:59.27 | neur0x | ? |
| 23:59.36 | neur0x | fanti, ? |