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| 00:01.30 | enouf | themill: er .. there was a DropDown box there, with a gmail option :-( .... who'd've thought to look there? i actually tried the "about:config" and filtered via 'mail' and saw some that might be relevant ... |
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| 00:02.13 | enouf | themill: isn't it all just 'one big mess' though? |
| 00:02.27 | enouf | i mean . as far as "howto" ... |
| 00:03.08 | tzanger | hmm |
| 00:03.29 | tzanger | lib32gcc1 is shown as installed and happy on my system, but it does not exist in /var/cache/apt/archive...? |
| 00:03.31 | enouf | themill: i _cannot_ yet confirm if it actually works or not .. but i will follow up |
| 00:03.32 | tzanger | how can this be? |
| 00:03.45 | tzanger | apt-get install clearly says it's already there, and dpkg -s shows it is installed |
| 00:03.46 | abrotman | tzanger: you can clean the archives |
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| 00:04.05 | tzanger | abrotman: I have never done this... does something do this automatically? |
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| 00:04.30 | enouf | themill: also - i mean the GUI aspect -- of cleck here --> click that -> BUT IF you're using THIS-DE, you have to click-THIS,m then THAT |
| 00:04.38 | abrotman | tzanger: it can be setup to do that |
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| 00:05.32 | enouf | themill: the entire u-a system is the CLI mirror of that nonsense - that's just IMHO ... |
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| 00:05.55 | tzanger | hmm okay |
| 00:06.00 | nsadmin | tzanger: maybe your $PATH is not set |
| 00:06.12 | nsadmin | or is missing /usr/bin |
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| 00:06.40 | nsadmin | oh it's a lib... never mind |
| 00:07.17 | ethanw | tzanger: what did you install from? |
| 00:07.27 | ethanw | if it was cd/dvd it may not have been cached |
| 00:07.39 | enouf | themill: please tell me how to just --list or SHOW all the available alternatives WITHOUT specifying a GROUP ..since one has no easy ay of knowing whether the OpenBoxWM is responsible for setting the "Preferred Applications" or is it the "x-session-manager" ? and what if no DE is present? |
| 00:07.59 | enouf | please don't say ls -al /etc/alternatives |
| 00:08.08 | enouf | i'll knock you out ;-) |
| 00:08.28 | sepult | mailcap |
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| 00:08.53 | enouf | with a 50lb burger from where abrotman thinks his heritage is from :-P |
| 00:09.39 | abrotman | enouf: eh? you mean Denny's Beer Barrel Pub? that's not really my heritage |
| 00:09.44 | enouf | griddles some 25lb pancackes |
| 00:09.50 | abrotman | maybe he means the Clinton Diner? |
| 00:09.54 | enouf | erm pancakes |
| 00:09.59 | enouf | abrotman: indeed |
| 00:10.08 | abrotman | i don't want to be from jersey .. nor am i |
| 00:10.13 | ethanw | enouf: not pancackes then? |
| 00:10.19 | enouf | abrotman: but your hair! :-P |
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| 00:10.32 | abrotman | okay then |
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| 00:11.51 | sepult | bwuhuuuuuuuaaahhh i haaam the grieeeeevz for they won't sell it |
| 00:12.10 | abrotman | sepult: wrong channel |
| 00:12.11 | enouf | abrotman: i _always_ have _legitimate_ "beefs" .. unfoortunately they mostly come out extremely 'rare' (harsh and scary) |
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| 00:12.57 | abrotman | sends enouf to the Clinton Diner for his 50lb burger .. just 1.5 hours from the city |
| 00:13.09 | abrotman | actually .. i bet it's just an hour |
| 00:13.29 | enouf | hops into his John Travolta cessna ... oh wait .. there's no room .. |
| 00:13.42 | enouf | i'd do it in |
| 00:13.45 | enouf | 45 |
| 00:13.56 | enouf | stupid POFS keyboard |
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| 00:14.35 | enouf | and i'm not in 'the city' .. but nm that ;-) |
| 00:14.52 | abrotman | i know you aren't |
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| 00:16.08 | bododo | hi folks |
| 00:16.12 | ethanw | hey |
| 00:16.42 | bododo | can you please point me to a clear an simple iptables bash script I can directly put in my /etc/init.d ? |
| 00:17.02 | ethanw | to do what? |
| 00:17.11 | bododo | The machine will be used for Internet surfing, simply |
| 00:17.31 | bododo | nothing shouldn't go out :) |
| 00:17.32 | ethanw | cant you just set rules? |
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| 00:17.38 | sepult | bododo: you want to have a firewall application like shorewall or arno-iptables-firewall ?? |
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| 00:18.03 | bododo | sepult: I actually don't want a (g)UI |
| 00:18.09 | bododo | just a script I can read |
| 00:18.12 | sepult | bododo: those aren't gui |
| 00:18.26 | bododo | sepult: ah! sorry, for my ignorance |
| 00:18.33 | abrotman | bododo: you would use iptables-save and iptables-restore |
| 00:18.35 | jvogel | What does it mean to check "Laptop" on the debian installer? |
| 00:18.38 | bododo | so arno-iptables is a script? |
| 00:18.40 | abrotman | /usr/share/doc/iptables/ .. start reading |
| 00:18.45 | sepult | bododo: mainly |
| 00:18.47 | abrotman | jvogel: do you ahve a laptop ? |
| 00:19.04 | jvogel | No, but I'm getting one tomorrow and intend to install Debian, but i was wondering what "laptop" does... |
| 00:19.12 | jvogel | I'm installing on a desktop atm |
| 00:19.20 | jvogel | I intend to install the base system and build it from scratch |
| 00:19.27 | jvogel | With xmonad |
| 00:19.28 | jelly-home | !+tell jvogel -about laptop task |
| 00:19.28 | dpkg | told jvogel about laptop task. |
| 00:19.32 | sepult | bododo: those two are easy, but maybe arno is easier at first glance than shorewall |
| 00:20.09 | bododo | sepult: ok, thanks! checking it out :) and I PROMISE I will learn iptables by the end of the week :) |
| 00:20.31 | sepult | bododo: good luck |
| 00:20.51 | bododo | thanks again! |
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| 00:23.45 | epsas | dd/win 8 |
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| 00:24.14 | quitte | great. now that i have kernel mode switching working x claims i have 4G of video ram |
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| 00:24.48 | d-b | quitte: are you sure that isn't a 'feature' ^^ |
| 00:25.02 | ethanw | quitte: or just wishful thinking |
| 00:25.17 | ethanw | quitte: have you tried just setting it manually with xorg.conf |
| 00:25.33 | quitte | it's probably the reason the machine crashes after some gl usage |
| 00:25.43 | d-b | quitte: you can set the gart size. |
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| 00:27.08 | quitte | it's probably some problem related to the faulty mtrr settings. |
| 00:27.44 | joe-mac | hm, my key shows in apt-key list, i signed my custom package with it, but apt-get says the package cannot be authetnicated. this is the first apt repo i've set up. anybody got some common mistakes they can think of? |
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| 00:29.39 | joe-mac | i mean, i set up the repo on the server end and added my custom package. then i went to a node after adding the proper sources.list.d entry, then ran the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, works fine, just gives me that warning, which i'd like to fix |
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| 00:30.49 | joe-mac | hmm, i'm guessing i put it in Release.gpg... |
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| 00:31.10 | SOG | um... I got a question related to resolution... the PC I am using have 1024 x 480 screen, so it's height is very short, so whenever I open a window, I can't see anything more than 480 height, anyone know any solutions ? |
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| 00:31.43 | johan_ | Anybody have any experience installing nvidia graphic drivers on debian? Seems impossible |
| 00:32.40 | SOG | it;s possible |
| 00:32.54 | SOG | there are package for it I think, but I use Ati so I don't know |
| 00:33.04 | ethanw | johan_: you mean the official nvidia ones? |
| 00:33.15 | johan_ | Well I have gotten it to work before, but now it refuses |
| 00:33.22 | abrotman | !tell johan_ about nvidia |
| 00:33.32 | abrotman | !tell johan_ about nvidia one-liner |
| 00:33.44 | ethanw | isnt it +tell |
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| 00:33.57 | scrote | hi |
| 00:34.11 | scrote | does debian come with alot of extra, pointless crap like how ubuntu does ? |
| 00:34.21 | ethanw | no |
| 00:34.25 | scrote | good. |
| 00:34.26 | abrotman | depends what you install .. and what you mean by pointless |
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| 00:34.29 | ethanw | not unless you want it |
| 00:34.33 | johan_ | I dont care if its official or not, just want the drivers to work |
| 00:34.42 | scrote | johan_: yeah ! |
| 00:34.44 | abrotman | johan_: see what the bot told you |
| 00:35.03 | johan_ | Allrdy did, tried installing the precompiled to using apt |
| 00:35.11 | SOG | um... I got a question related to resolution... the PC I am using have 1024 x 480 screen, so it's height is very short, so whenever I open a window, I can't see anything more than 480 height, anyone know any solutions ? |
| 00:35.28 | abrotman | johan_: are you going to tell us the errors you got or just keep everything to yourself? |
| 00:35.44 | johan_ | Hold a second |
| 00:35.58 | ethanw | SOG: you could force it in the config |
| 00:36.15 | ethanw | SOG: im guessing you're on a netbook. what model? |
| 00:36.43 | SOG | ethanw: I already get the font size to like 75 dpi |
| 00:36.56 | johan_ | Be right back abrotman |
| 00:37.03 | SOG | it's an old Sony PCG-C1 :D |
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| 00:38.21 | ethanw | SOG: hold tight |
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| 00:39.06 | abrotman | SOG: you could make a larger virtual desktop .. though i personally find that rather annoying |
| 00:39.39 | SOG | I see... um.. |
| 00:40.04 | SOG | gonna figure out a way to extent the height |
| 00:40.09 | ethanw | SOG: wait, what exactly do you want to do? |
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| 00:40.49 | abrotman | SOG: that's what i'm telling you .. if you force your resolution to 1024x768 .. you will have to scroll up/down, but you should be able to see more |
| 00:41.00 | SOG | it's a 1024 x 480 screen |
| 00:41.17 | SOG | is it possible to get it to |
| 00:41.31 | SOG | I wonder if it will display ok though |
| 00:41.38 | abrotman | you could try it and see |
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| 00:42.06 | ethanw | some displays will try and display it even tho its out of range (scaling) looks horrid tho |
| 00:42.13 | ethanw | other than that its scrolling |
| 00:42.16 | SOG | um... |
| 00:42.57 | ethanw | um? |
| 00:43.09 | SOG | I will try that later then, after I just need to see the options, sometimes options are bigger than 1024 x 480 and I can't ecen see the "ok" and "cancel|" button |
| 00:44.23 | SOG | by the way, to install pidgin in debian is apt-get install pidgin, right ? |
| 00:44.36 | abrotman | you sohuld use aptitude .. but yes |
| 00:45.11 | ethanw | abrotman: does it matter? |
| 00:45.12 | SOG | odd I can't seem to get it to work, now running Xubuntu |
| 00:45.15 | abrotman | ethanw: yes |
| 00:45.24 | abrotman | SOG: go to #xubuntu for support |
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| 00:45.53 | ethanw | abrotman: why? I thought apt-get could manage things on its own |
| 00:46.16 | abrotman | it can .. so what? |
| 00:46.40 | ethanw | well aptitude is a bit more fiddly for just one package |
| 00:46.49 | abrotman | not really .. |
| 00:46.52 | ethanw | mmmeh |
| 00:46.56 | ethanw | i guess |
| 00:47.02 | abrotman | how hard is `aptitude install pidgin` ? |
| 00:47.15 | ethanw | true |
| 00:47.24 | ethanw | but why is it any better than apt-get install pidgin |
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| 00:47.33 | abrotman | !tell ethanw about why aptitude |
| 00:47.45 | SOG | I will try aptutude install pidgin latr |
| 00:48.13 | ethanw | abrotman: very true, im just odd i spose |
| 00:48.19 | abrotman | no kidding ... |
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| 00:48.26 | SOG | I just can'st seems to install anything on Lenny, been using Etch |
| 00:48.48 | abrotman | SOG: you just said you were using xubuntu .. go to #xubuntu for Xubuntu support |
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| 00:50.07 | SOG | no, I have both installed, I usually use ETCH, but just got Lenny installed, and I can't get Xchat or Pidgin, after all Debian support my longrun CPU |
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| 00:52.56 | Bold` | Planning to install lenny, so I came to have some feedback.. found SOG complaining :) |
| 00:53.12 | SOG | it's just me :o |
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| 00:53.14 | Bold` | I hope this is only him |
| 00:53.18 | SOG | I use xubuntu as back up |
| 00:53.24 | Bold` | lol.. oh well, lucky you then |
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| 00:53.55 | ethanw | Bold`: what feedback are you after |
| 00:54.20 | johan_ | Ok, got the nvidia stuff to work.. another problem, eatch time I install a program I get this message http://pastebin.com/m28ea002b, would it be safe to do an apt-get autoremove or will my system "krash" |
| 00:54.24 | ootput | SOG: I can't possibly imagine using *ubuntu as a backup ;) |
| 00:54.48 | ootput | SOG: it'd be other way round |
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| 00:54.57 | SOG | ootput: I got puppy linux installed too :o |
| 00:55.11 | Bold` | ethanw: any.. like was there a general issue.. installation notes.. hadware related notes.. |
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| 00:55.50 | SOG | just hopefully nothing goes wrong with my MBR ;o this laptop got no CD rom, no Floppy, no nothing o: |
| 00:55.51 | ootput | SOG: did you remove the dualboot to windows, only to replace it with a tri-boot for linux?! |
| 00:55.57 | Bold` | ootput: neither do I.. I couldnt feel stable w/ ubuntu .. maybe I am too paranoid. :) |
| 00:56.22 | ethanw | Bold`: when i installed i had no problems. as far as hardware goes i cant say much, because i have odd hardware. I haven't heard of much |
| 00:56.27 | SOG | um... no, I got quite a few stuff installed on this laptop |
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| 00:56.36 | abrotman | johan_: that's german ? |
| 00:56.37 | ethanw | Bold`: check the release notes on debian.org |
| 00:57.03 | SOG | rd |
| 00:57.05 | Bold` | ethanw: I did.. doing my homework so I dont face surprises |
| 00:57.11 | SOG | omg I lost wholeline of sentense |
| 00:57.50 | SOG | Anyway, somehow my sound card won't work with Lenny, but I am sure that should be sorted out soon, my old PC just work better with ETCH |
| 00:57.52 | ootput | with so many distros on one machine, you've clearly lost something else :D |
| 00:58.00 | johan_ | abrotman: swedish |
| 00:58.06 | abrotman | johan_: i can't read it :) |
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| 00:58.43 | johan_ | Something like, following packages has installed automatic and is no longer nesseracy |
| 00:58.53 | johan_ | use apt/get autormove to remove them |
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| 00:59.02 | johan_ | But feels like my whole system will stop working if I do |
| 00:59.05 | abrotman | i probably wouldn't do it |
| 00:59.12 | Bold` | ethanw: do you use any other distros other tyhan debian ? like ubuntu as a backup ? :) |
| 00:59.17 | johan_ | Me neither hehe |
| 00:59.20 | johan_ | brb again.. |
| 00:59.30 | abrotman | maybe yous hould install the 'gnome' package ? |
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| 00:59.56 | ethanw | Bold`: I used to use fedora until it got bloated as hell. Now i stick to debian for everything. servers. workstations, hell even my router |
| 01:00.02 | bsulzer | hey ev'ryone. i just fried my xdm. |
| 01:00.14 | bsulzer | how do restart it? |
| 01:00.35 | ethanw | etc/init.d/xdm restart |
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| 01:00.59 | mosno | ethanw: they run Debian in hell? |
| 01:01.15 | ethanw | mosno: damn straight |
| 01:01.20 | Bold` | ethanw: just being cears.. why not any other.. like, slack or.. suse |
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| 01:01.35 | ethanw | Bold`: because apt rules :) |
| 01:01.41 | bsulzer | ethanw: well, i think i did my question unclear |
| 01:01.44 | Bold` | cariouse* |
| 01:02.14 | Bold` | hmmm.. that makes since.. |
| 01:02.22 | bsulzer | ethanw: it sais at the beginning of the booting: Starting X Display manager: xdm |
| 01:02.28 | bsulzer | ethanw: but nothing happens |
| 01:02.48 | ethanw | bsulzer: right. have you been messing with its configs? |
| 01:02.52 | Bold` | I have installed slack once.. when they released 12.2, it was extreamly fast but... not easy to get hardware running.. |
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| 01:03.14 | bsulzer | ethanw: yes. ev'rything is empty |
| 01:03.20 | ethanw | Bold`: thats what i found. I have unusual hardware as well |
| 01:03.30 | ethanw | bsulzer: that would be why then |
| 01:03.56 | ethanw | bsulzer: can you do an X from terminal? |
| 01:03.58 | bsulzer | ethanw: i thought i had to. cuz my fluxbox was screwed. |
| 01:04.11 | Bold` | ethanw: I will give it another try.. later maybe.. I lost my battle the first round :) |
| 01:04.20 | Bold` | a feeling which I dont like.. |
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| 01:05.04 | ethanw | bsulzer: tbh, i tend to stick to kdm and kde/afterstep so im not too hot on xdm or flux |
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| 01:05.16 | ethanw | bsulzer: did you back up your configs? |
| 01:06.15 | ethanw | bsulzer: or did some kind program back them up for you? |
| 01:06.36 | bsulzer | ethanw: of course not. *soooooorrrryyy* |
| 01:06.47 | ethanw | bsulzer: whoops |
| 01:07.00 | ethanw | bsulzer: your editor might have made backups |
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| 01:07.14 | bsulzer | ethanw: i'm a n00b, trying to get into it. |
| 01:07.23 | Arafangion | !pubkey |
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| 01:07.29 | bsulzer | ethanw: these with the ~ in the end? |
| 01:07.32 | ethanw | yea |
| 01:07.34 | ethanw | thats them |
| 01:07.47 | Arafangion | dpkg: Pubkey? |
| 01:07.48 | dpkg | Arafangion: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 01:08.05 | Arafangion | dpkg: If only you would tell me where to point! |
| 01:08.06 | dpkg | Arafangion: no idea |
| 01:08.29 | ethanw | bsulzer: re-instate those, but make backups of anything there atm |
| 01:08.41 | Arafangion | Guys, I'm attempting to update my system, however aptitude states a warning that the public key is not available - how do I fix this? |
| 01:08.56 | bsulzer | ethanw: it worked. yippieh. thx a lot |
| 01:09.04 | ethanw | n/p |
| 01:09.06 | ethanw | just remember |
| 01:09.11 | ethanw | BACKUP next time ;) |
| 01:09.14 | Arafangion | It's not like I magically know both the steps to fix it AND the location of that pub key... |
| 01:09.45 | Arafangion | ethanw: Backup? What's that? (bad jk) |
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| 01:10.25 | Kazuha | Two questions: 1: where does Totem hide its user confile? and 2: What audio backend does Totem use? |
| 01:10.27 | ethanw | Arafangion: yep bad joke. and arguing with dpkg is like farting at a tornado. either way you;re going to have a palm tree shoved up your arese |
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| 01:11.21 | Shazzamy_ | Helloso |
| 01:11.24 | Arafangion | ethanw: Points taken but I still want to know how to fix this. I remember that this used to be in the /topic some time ago. |
| 01:11.27 | Shazzamy_ | I have an install disk |
| 01:12.00 | ethanw | Arafangion: to be honest ive only really started visiting recently :) |
| 01:12.14 | abrotman | Kazuha: depends if you're using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer |
| 01:12.34 | Arafangion | ethanw: Welcome. :) Despite the flaws, this is a fantastic OS. :) |
| 01:12.34 | Shazzamy_ | And ipopped it in, it wants me yo install, will it let me partition the hard drive in the install? |
| 01:12.41 | Kazuha | abrotman: I have both installed. |
| 01:13.05 | Arafangion | ethanw: The only authoritative doc I've found is http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Howtofindakey but even that doesn't actually state _how_ to get the key. |
| 01:13.07 | ethanw | Arafangion: oh i know, been using it a few years. just only joined irc recently |
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| 01:13.42 | abrotman | Kazuha: ls -l /etc/alternatives/totem |
| 01:13.50 | Shazzamy_ | Also my networking isnt working whrn i set it up |
| 01:13.52 | Arafangion | dpkg: Tell me about etch keys |
| 01:13.55 | Shazzamy_ | In the install |
| 01:13.59 | abrotman | !tell Arafangion about selftell |
| 01:14.18 | Kazuha | Points to totem-gstreamer |
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| 01:14.34 | Arafangion | abrotman: Would you happen to know the magic incantation to get dpkg to tell me the information I'm after? |
| 01:14.35 | Shazzamy_ | ... |
| 01:15.09 | abrotman | !tell Arafangion about no public key |
| 01:15.20 | Shazzamy_ | Help? |
| 01:15.33 | Shazzamy_ | Before iget in too far with the installation |
| 01:15.37 | jvogel | Hi |
| 01:15.42 | jvogel | How do I install x on a base system |
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| 01:15.52 | jvogel | apt-get install ... |
| 01:15.52 | Shazzamy_ | Because i DO NOT want to lose all my data |
| 01:15.54 | abrotman | jvogel: aptitude install xorg |
| 01:15.56 | Arafangion | abrotman: Perfect, thanks. :) |
| 01:15.57 | jvogel | ty |
| 01:16.01 | ethanw | Shazzamy_: yes the installer will let you partition your drive |
| 01:16.24 | Kazuha | Or even set the drives to use existing partitions. |
| 01:16.29 | ethanw | yes |
| 01:16.37 | Shazzamy_ | Dammit |
| 01:16.40 | Kazuha | Although, as of Etch it was more annoying than in Sarge. |
| 01:16.42 | Arafangion | Shazzamy_: I'd be wary of resizing partitions and stuff, though... You really should back up the data. |
| 01:16.56 | Shazzamy_ | It saysthat all dataonthe disk youselect will be erased |
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| 01:17.14 | Kazuha | Select the 'alternative' option. |
| 01:17.22 | Shazzamy_ | Ok |
| 01:17.24 | Shazzamy_ | So |
| 01:17.27 | Kazuha | (If you're reusing existing partitions.) |
| 01:18.13 | Shazzamy_ | Guided-use entire disk, guided-use entire disk and set up lvm, guided-use entire disk and set up encryted lvm, manual |
| 01:18.15 | Kazuha | Although, IIRC, it takes a while to point each partition to a mount point. (This is particularly annoying to someone with 10-15+ partitions.) |
| 01:18.18 | Shazzamy_ | Are my options |
| 01:18.36 | Kazuha | Manual, I'd guess. |
| 01:18.47 | Shazzamy_ | I have no previous partitions on this drive |
| 01:19.08 | Kazuha | So I'd guess that there's nothing of import on it, then? |
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| 01:19.18 | SOG | brb |
| 01:19.44 | SOG | ?? 10 - 15 partition ?!?! :o |
| 01:19.56 | Shazzamy_ | Fudge |
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| 01:20.13 | Shazzamy_ | Ok so i selected manual |
| 01:20.14 | Arafangion | Kazuha: I tend to just install Debian to a 3-4 GB partition, which includes home and all that. I then fix things up as neccessary after installation. :) |
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| 01:21.42 | Kazuha | I have a setup with /, /home, /tmp, /usr, and /var as separate partitions. |
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| 01:22.08 | Shazzamy_ | But |
| 01:22.18 | Shazzamy_ | Idontwant to lose all my data |
| 01:22.39 | Shazzamy_ | And if i abort itsays my computer may be rendered unusable |
| 01:22.54 | Kazuha | Shazzamy_: Is there anything on the drive that you would not like to vanish? |
| 01:22.58 | Arafangion | Kazuha: I used to think it was rediculous to have so many partitions (Was running a server), but fortunately I did so anyway. That made things so much easier when a log file on /var became full! |
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| 01:23.26 | Arafangion | Shazzamy_: Unsuable in the sense that there may not be an OS on it. |
| 01:23.27 | Shazzamy_ | Kazuha: Yes, a lot |
| 01:23.44 | Kazuha | Arafangion: I know -- the reason I have /tmp on its own partition is so it can't fill up /. |
| 01:23.54 | ethanw | Shazzamy_: back it up then |
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| 01:24.05 | Shazzamy_ | Buti need to about to dothat |
| 01:24.10 | Shazzamy_ | Abort |
| 01:24.13 | Kazuha | (06:18:31 PM) Shazzamy_: I have no previous partitions on this drive |
| 01:24.20 | ethanw | you can abort fine atm |
| 01:24.26 | Shazzamy_ | Ok |
| 01:24.26 | kevin01123 | Is it a well known problem with Debian Lenny that it freezes on suspend with the xf86-video-intel driver? Because it happens to me, everytime, on every suspend. Tested on stable kernel, custom 2.6.27.24, and 2.6.29-2-amd64 from sid. |
| 01:24.29 | ethanw | as long as u havent applied disk changes |
| 01:24.38 | amitz | mm... OT but it's a saver if you can help, I need to act fast. Can blackberry, iphone, and high end phones in general able to forward an SMS in inbox to be an email? |
| 01:24.39 | Shazzamy_ | No what i mesn |
| 01:24.50 | amitz | oh, wrong channel sorry |
| 01:24.52 | Shazzamy_ | Is that ive never partitioned the drive before |
| 01:25.01 | amitz | well, but if you can help... |
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| 01:25.17 | ethanw | Shazzamy_: in which case you are safe to quit as long as you havent done anything to it yet |
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| 01:25.25 | Kazuha | ^ |
| 01:25.27 | Arafangion | kevin01123: If I recall correctly, my laptop _sometimes_ does that, but not often. It freezes every third (not second) time in windows, too. |
| 01:25.30 | Shazzamy_ | Ok, thank god! |
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| 01:25.48 | Shazzamy_ | Its booting fine |
| 01:25.53 | kevin01123 | Arafangion: Is there anyway to fix this? It's incredibly annoying. |
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| 01:26.50 | Kazuha | Speaking of odd problems -- I've found that trying to play VCDs in GMplayer causes my system to reboot. |
| 01:27.08 | Arafangion | kevin01123: Sue MS for creating a new race of users that are used to dodgy computers. :( You could report the problem to the kernel ml, or to your vendor. It's not a good situation, in a nutshell, /something/ isn't quite respecting ACPI properly. |
| 01:27.50 | Shazzamy_ | Ok |
| 01:27.52 | Arafangion | Kazuha: That's _definetly_ a graphics driver bug! :) |
| 01:27.52 | Shazzamy_ | Uhm |
| 01:28.09 | Shazzamy_ | ...yhank you for the help, but i will be back |
| 01:28.17 | ethanw | k |
| 01:28.46 | Kazuha | Lovely. Bloody annoying Binary Blobs. |
| 01:28.52 | Arafangion | is always nervous when aptitude upgrades libc. |
| 01:29.14 | ethanw | Arafangion: leave aptitude alone, it knows what its doing |
| 01:29.14 | Kazuha | is too. |
| 01:29.19 | zoombie | alguien habla espa;ol |
| 01:29.23 | zoombie | ??? |
| 01:29.31 | jpinx-eeepc | !es |
| 01:29.32 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:29.35 | Arafangion | ethanw: I am, but doesn't stop me from being nervous! |
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| 01:29.59 | Arafangion | ethanw: Gone are the days when I'd compile libc myself, ahh, those were the days of foolishness. :) |
| 01:30.13 | ethanw | Arafangion: argh |
| 01:30.17 | zoombie | ok |
| 01:30.19 | ethanw | has horrible memory |
| 01:30.27 | Kazuha | tracks testing -- so there's good reason to be a little nervous. |
| 01:30.54 | ethanw | 's are as well. double reason |
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| 01:30.58 | Kazuha | Not as much reason as with Unstable. |
| 01:31.09 | ethanw | well i track that as well |
| 01:31.11 | ethanw | hehe |
| 01:31.16 | ethanw | asking for trouble |
| 01:31.19 | ethanw | oh well |
| 01:31.21 | qiyong | i just need to write for make install to instal files to /usr/bin, what should I take? automake? |
| 01:31.24 | ethanw | i have good backups |
| 01:31.41 | Arafangion | Well, way I see it, a dodgy kernel's easy to deal with, but the two major, major issues that are Damn Hard to fix are a dodgy libc, and a dodgy kernel. |
| 01:31.55 | Kazuha | Indeed. |
| 01:32.15 | Kazuha | And something *always* breaks when libc is upgraded. |
| 01:32.21 | Arafangion | has lots of painful memories of a particular RedHat version, including it's derivatives, and a particular GCC of whose existance the GCC folks refuse to acknoledge. |
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| 01:32.30 | ethanw | dodgy libc = rebuild time |
| 01:32.55 | rektide | in X i would like to switch my capslock and left control keys... what are easy methods of accomplishing this? |
| 01:32.56 | Kazuha | shudders about the memory of using Red Hat. |
| 01:33.26 | Kazuha | Editing the X keymap? |
| 01:33.33 | flaccid | anyone recognise this mta/postfix prob? mail is sent; sender is foo@bar.com going to bar@bar.com but it tries to send to foo@bar.com . wtf? |
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| 01:33.58 | Arafangion | flaccid: You've got a cycle, I would imagine. |
| 01:34.03 | nsadmin | Arafangion: unless you can replace either/both |
| 01:34.08 | flaccid | Arafangion a cyle ? |
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| 01:34.32 | Arafangion | flaccid: A -> B -> A -> B -> A -> B... |
| 01:34.34 | Bold` | later guys... |
| 01:34.34 | flaccid | it does try to send it to the right server which is a dif server |
| 01:34.39 | flaccid | Arafangion no its not doing that. |
| 01:34.39 | ethanw | laters |
| 01:34.50 | flaccid | its changing the recipient to the sender which is crazy |
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| 01:35.08 | nsadmin | flaccid: perhaps the right server is misconfigured |
| 01:36.08 | flaccid | nsadmin well im guessing it can only be the postfix server that is the problem |
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| 01:42.40 | krisfremen | hmm |
| 01:42.45 | krisfremen | i have a little problem |
| 01:43.13 | ethanw | go for it |
| 01:43.16 | krisfremen | I installed newsbeuter through apt-get, saw that it was an old version that got installed |
| 01:43.19 | krisfremen | and then i removed it |
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| 01:43.32 | krisfremen | and downloaded the newest verson, compiled it |
| 01:43.39 | krisfremen | but i can't run it... |
| 01:43.45 | krisfremen | i have to specify the exact path |
| 01:43.56 | ethanw | have you done a make install |
| 01:43.57 | ethanw | ? |
| 01:44.01 | krisfremen | otherwise it goes to the path where apt-get did the install |
| 01:44.04 | krisfremen | yes, i did |
| 01:44.13 | ethanw | how did you remove the old version? |
| 01:44.25 | krisfremen | apt-get remove newsbeuter |
| 01:44.32 | Arafangion | Question: What often causes aptitude to keep certain packages back? |
| 01:44.47 | flaccid | krisfremen purge the old package, not just remove. and you can always add things to your path in shell. |
| 01:44.58 | ethanw | krisfremen: try aptitude purge newsbeuter |
| 01:45.06 | ethanw | and then make install again |
| 01:45.11 | abrotman | !tell Arafangion about held back |
| 01:45.16 | abrotman | the remove should remove the binary |
| 01:46.00 | krisfremen | nope |
| 01:46.10 | krisfremen | still the same error |
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| 01:46.20 | krisfremen | it says "bash: /usr/bin/newsbeuter: No such file or directory" |
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| 01:46.38 | krisfremen | but it's actually in "/usr/local/bin/newsbeuter" |
| 01:46.56 | abrotman | echo $PATh |
| 01:47.01 | abrotman | erm .. echo $PATH |
| 01:47.28 | krisfremen | it's in $PATH |
| 01:47.38 | bitsbam | hey all, i am running gnome and the nm-applet has a problem. It will not let me edit my connections and it says that there is no connection, but i am connected. |
| 01:47.43 | bitsbam | anyone see this before? |
| 01:48.21 | flaccid | krisfremen you need to refresh your login shell |
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| 01:49.22 | krisfremen | ooh... |
| 01:49.29 | krisfremen | ok |
| 01:49.30 | krisfremen | thanks |
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| 01:49.40 | krisfremen | time to kill this screen session |
| 01:49.41 | comradekingu | Should i use the sync mount option on a SSD installation? |
| 01:49.43 | flaccid | np |
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| 01:51.09 | Kazuha | So where do the (user) totem confiles hide? |
| 01:51.49 | ethanw | in the user's homes i imagine |
| 01:51.54 | ethanw | might be a .file |
| 01:52.23 | abrotman | probably in the gconf stuff |
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| 01:53.39 | Kazuha | *twitches* |
| 01:53.50 | Arafangion | Kazuha: You should have that twitch looked at. |
| 01:54.03 | krisfremen | awesome |
| 01:54.04 | krisfremen | it works |
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| 01:54.15 | krisfremen | thanks flaccid |
| 01:54.30 | flaccid | np |
| 01:54.37 | Kazuha | Its that Totem's confile doesn't have (as best as I can tell) what any setting to set which audio backend its supposed to use. |
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| 01:56.00 | Kazuha | Which is the issue -- for whatever reason (probably a recent batch of upgrades), stuff using (IIRC) the ARTS backend stopped playing audio. |
| 01:56.08 | Arafangion | is glad that he upgraded aptitude, upgrading, before doing the dist-upgrade, because the newer version is so much better. |
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| 01:56.26 | Kazuha | While stuff that uses OSS, ALSA, etc works. |
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| 01:57.27 | PhorceP | Using squeeze. linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 looks like it's installed fine, but does not appear in grub... |
| 01:57.42 | PhorceP | still seeing -1 |
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| 02:00.43 | DynamicPink | Anyone having problems with the Gnome update manager and the Smart Upgrade option? |
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| 02:01.27 | DynamicPink | It seems like the Smart Upgrade no longer works, and it removed part of KDE and Compiz. |
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| 02:01.54 | IamSOG | odd |
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| 02:01.57 | IamSOG | beb |
| 02:02.18 | Arafangion | DynamicPink: It's recommended to upgrade such tools specifically before allowing them to do a full upgrade. |
| 02:02.26 | IamSOG | aptitude install pidgin said it can't find pidgin.. :o u... um... what did I do wrong |
| 02:02.26 | Arafangion | DynamicPink: That said, I've never used "Smart Upgrade". |
| 02:02.37 | Arafangion | IamSOG: It might be in under the old name - gaim |
| 02:03.09 | DynamicPink | The Smart Upgrade is equivalent to apt-get dist-upgrade, or so a Google search says. |
| 02:03.22 | abrotman | DynamicPink: which version of debian ? |
| 02:03.34 | abrotman | IamSOG: which version of debian ? |
| 02:03.39 | DynamicPink | There was an APT update a few weeks ago, and I started having problems after that. |
| 02:03.40 | abrotman | IamSOG: are you using etch ? |
| 02:03.45 | DynamicPink | I'm on Squeez. |
| 02:03.54 | IamSOG | no, abrotman Lenny |
| 02:04.02 | abrotman | IamSOG: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 02:04.06 | IamSOG | I am running XP now, on desktop :D |
| 02:04.06 | abrotman | DynamicPink: did you check the BTS? |
| 02:04.22 | DynamicPink | I don't know what BTS is. |
| 02:04.31 | IamSOG | it's the /etc/xxx/ soruces.list ? |
| 02:04.38 | mischief | i don't quite understand how aptitude uses so much memory |
| 02:04.50 | abrotman | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:04.50 | Kazuha | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.56 | IamSOG | also can't get synaptic, odd |
| 02:04.58 | abrotman | mischief: if you have lots of different sources, it will consume more |
| 02:05.10 | Kazuha | DynamicPink: BTS=Bug Tracking System (IIRC) |
| 02:05.22 | DynamicPink | Ah. Thanks Kazuha |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | !bts |
| 02:05.23 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 02:05.30 | mischief | abrotman, i've only got roughly 3 sets of sources |
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| 02:05.37 | mischief | deb/deb-src for each |
| 02:05.50 | mischief | abrotman, is roughly 90MB of memory usual? |
| 02:06.07 | abrotman | mischief: interactively ? |
| 02:06.10 | mischief | abrotman, yeap |
| 02:06.20 | abrotman | mischief: honestly, i do'nt use it interactively |
| 02:06.21 | DynamicPink | I went to squeez to get the open source ATI updates. It seems that they have broken a bunch of other apps. For example; the KDEGraphics package is not updating. |
| 02:06.30 | mischief | it's much easier to look at packages using the ncurses interface you know :\ |
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| 02:08.58 | DynamicPink | Is there any way to tell why a package is being held back from an apt upgrade? KDEGraphics is blocked, so is gnome-core |
| 02:09.26 | Arafangion | DynamicPink: Did you update apt-get first? |
| 02:09.34 | IamSOG | man 75 dpi is hard to see |
| 02:09.34 | DynamicPink | yes |
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| 02:09.49 | Arafangion | IamSOG: I prefer 300dpi myself. :( |
| 02:09.50 | Kazuha | Its either blocked by lack of some dependency, manually, or because of a conflict. |
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| 02:10.18 | DynamicPink | I'd fix the block, if the system would tell me the reason. It just says they are "held back." |
| 02:10.30 | IamSOG | abrotman my soruce.lst is http://paste.debian.let/37013/ |
| 02:10.32 | abrotman | !tell DynamicPink about held back |
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| 02:10.45 | IamSOG | Arafangion I want to do that too, but my laptop's scren only got 1024 x 480 :o |
| 02:10.58 | IamSOG | abrotman my soruce.lst is http://paste.debian.let/37013/ Thanks. |
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| 02:11.07 | Arafangion | IamSOG: 300dpi is typical of printers. |
| 02:11.08 | abrotman | IamSOG: you only have the CD source .. you should have http sources also |
| 02:11.21 | abrotman | IamSOG: and your security line is commented out |
| 02:11.34 | abrotman | IamSOG: which country are you in ? |
| 02:11.43 | DynamicPink | thanks abrotman |
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| 02:12.13 | IamSOG | Oic, This old laptop can only have CD-ROM or network card, can't have both at the same time |
| 02:12.15 | IamSOG | In Hong Kong right now |
| 02:12.26 | IamSOG | PCMCIA slot* |
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| 02:12.58 | abrotman | IamSOG: so you should add `deb http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian lenny main` and uncomment the security line .. and then aptitude update;aptitude install pidgin |
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| 02:13.19 | IamSOG | but the version I have is in English |
| 02:13.33 | IamSOG | in the source.lst file? |
| 02:13.38 | IamSOG | thanks abrotman doing it now |
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| 02:15.42 | IamSOG | oh, looks like need to be root to do that, brb |
| 02:18.01 | Arafangion | How do I install the latest 2.6 kernel for my athlon system? (k7) |
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| 02:18.25 | Arafangion | I have tried to fire up aptitude, locate linux-image-2.6-k7, and I hit 'i', however it is "unable to find a reason to install". |
| 02:18.49 | abrotman | k7 is dead .. you want -686 .. so install linux-image-686 |
| 02:18.58 | Arafangion | Thanks. :) |
| 02:19.27 | Arafangion | Do I need bigmem for a 3GB system? |
| 02:19.31 | abrotman | no |
| 02:19.38 | Arafangion | Thanks. :) |
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| 02:19.43 | Kazuha | You need it if you have four gigs, though. |
| 02:19.55 | Kazuha | (Or more.) |
| 02:19.58 | jmd | Why does sendmail recommend exim4? Shouldn't they conflict? |
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| 02:20.49 | Arafangion | I seem to be unable to install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 02:20.56 | Arafangion | 'unable to find a reason to install' |
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| 02:21.28 | abrotman | Arafangion: what are your sources.list ? |
| 02:22.27 | Arafangion | abrotman: What's your preferred pastebin, rafb.net/paste has been discontinued. |
| 02:22.49 | abrotman | paste.debian.net worksjust fine |
| 02:23.28 | Arafangion | http://paste.debian.net/37104/ |
| 02:24.08 | abrotman | Arafangion: you have no main debian source |
| 02:24.15 | abrotman | oh ..y es you do |
| 02:24.30 | abrotman | Arafangion: and you don't have linux-image-686 ? |
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| 02:25.10 | Arafangion | abrotman: Well, I can see it in aptitude, it just refuses to let me even /try/ to install it. Apparently my desire to install it isn't reason enough to do so. |
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| 02:26.15 | Arafangion | abrotman: For the record, my current kernel is 2.6.18-6-k7. |
| 02:26.22 | Arafangion | (In uname -a) |
| 02:26.24 | abrotman | Arafangion: are you running etch or lenny ? |
| 02:26.32 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 02:26.34 | Arafangion | abrotman: I am, infact, upgrading from etch to lenny. |
| 02:26.48 | abrotman | Arafangion: so if you `aptitude update && aptitude install linux-image-686` says what ? |
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| 02:26.57 | Arafangion | abrotman: This box hasn't actually been used for about 6 months, hence it's very old. |
| 02:27.22 | ezyang | Hello all! What's the Debian convention for the version number that's placed in the debian/control file? |
| 02:27.39 | Arafangion | abrotman: Wierd. It actually asks me to continue, in direct contradition to how the aptitude ncurses gui operates. |
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| 02:28.17 | Arafangion | abrotman: I didn't even think that the command line usage would possibly give different results to the gui usage. |
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| 02:29.16 | elik | Arafangion, depends what package manager it uses in the back... |
| 02:29.34 | Arafangion | elik: Well, it's the same fricking program. |
| 02:29.57 | elik | Arafangion, oh, you mean Aptitude cli |
| 02:30.04 | elik | and aptitude on the command line |
| 02:30.14 | Arafangion | elik: Yes. |
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| 02:37.58 | IamSOG | Lenny no longer use Xorg? isn't it supposed to be in /etc/x11/xorg ? |
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| 02:38.29 | abrotman | /etc/X11/ |
| 02:38.33 | abrotman | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 02:39.02 | IamSOG | odd, dont' see any resolution here, gues I will need to add it myself |
| 02:39.20 | IamSOG | I though since I am editing the source.lst might as well edit the Xorg |
| 02:39.42 | abrotman | you don't have to |
| 02:39.52 | abrotman | it guesses many of the parameters now .. adding things will probably mess it up |
| 02:39.59 | IamSOG | the screen I am using is 1024 x 480, alot of things are missing |
| 02:40.11 | IamSOG | I mean anything below the 480 is missing |
| 02:40.16 | IamSOG | been trying to find out how to fix that... |
| 02:40.28 | IamSOG | oh well, mayeb I will try and see if the apt-get will work first :D |
| 02:40.29 | elik | abrotman, How can is that possible? I just upgraded a machine through ssh and ssh service had to be restarted, but I still kept my connection? |
| 02:40.52 | elik | abrotman, the service is just for authentification and existing connections are kept??? |
| 02:41.28 | abrotman | elik: yes |
| 02:42.07 | edju | Just discovered nepomuk while running top. Looked on the web - "semantic desktop". Says it's one of the newer technologies in KDE 4. I run lenny w/ KDE 3.5, not 4. Is nepomuk supposed to be here? Can I remove it? |
| 02:42.10 | abrotman | IamSOG: did you google "xorg virtual screen size" for some kind of instructions? |
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| 02:42.39 | elik | abrotman, any way to drop all existing connections? |
| 02:42.40 | IamSOG | no, I didn't, though I just put in 1024 x 768 and it will auto-ed... lol, I guess not |
| 02:42.51 | abrotman | elik: kill them all |
| 02:43.04 | ajavid | is it possible to get an overview of thigns that are cached in memory? |
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| 02:43.59 | elik | abrotman, that makes sense |
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| 02:45.55 | ajavid | http://code.google.com/p/compcache/ <-- wtf |
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| 02:51.44 | jmd | Whenever I try to reconfigure sendmail, I get the following error: |
| 02:51.53 | jmd | makemap: error opening type hash map /etc/mail/access.new.db: Permission denied |
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| 02:53.06 | flaccid | jmd lots on google |
| 02:53.35 | jmd | flaccid, Google said "ask on #debian" |
| 02:54.32 | flaccid | not when i searched. |
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| 02:56.08 | jmd | It also said a lot of other things. |
| 02:56.29 | jmd | Google is a far too promiscous tool for such a specific problem. |
| 02:57.19 | flaccid | well read the error. permission denied. so check perms and see what makemap is being run under and if the file in question even exists. |
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| 03:00.13 | jmd | flaccid, Yes, I've done that. |
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| 03:01.07 | IamSOG | um... this time it gives differnet Error, interseting, it said "No candidate version found for synaptic |
| 03:01.19 | flaccid | jmd well i don't know your specific problem, so sorry i can't help. |
| 03:01.42 | jmd | flaccid, Ok. Thanks for talking to me. |
| 03:01.50 | flaccid | anytime |
| 03:01.52 | IamSOG | maybe I should go back to ETCH :D |
| 03:02.25 | ajavid | what |
| 03:02.29 | ajavid | no! ;) |
| 03:02.38 | IamSOG | lol |
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| 03:05.17 | Kazuha | Could someone explain *why* moving everything starting with a . in ~/ to another directory, and starting the problematic video player (Totem) would cause it to start working? |
| 03:05.34 | Kazuha | Its not (as far as I can tell) a confile. |
| 03:05.39 | oh_noes | is it expected that I dont get much output from /dev/random? |
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| 03:06.42 | jmd | Is there a way of getting rid of those annoying "debconf: (No usable dialog-like program is installed, so the dialog based frontend cannot be used. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 75.)" messages every time I use apt? |
| 03:06.50 | SQlvpapir | oh_noes: try urandom |
| 03:06.52 | SQlvpapir | also in dev |
| 03:07.32 | Kazuha | This is the second time this has happened -- and the confiles (as best as I can tell) are identical. |
| 03:07.35 | oh_noes | I can't. It's an openldap applicstion which is using /dev/random which is causing it to take a LONG time to generator something |
| 03:07.49 | Kazuha | (The acting up one, and the behaving one.) |
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| 03:10.30 | Kazuha | The only directories that get 'left behind' as a result of this are: .config/, .gconf/, .gnome2/, .local/, .dbus/, .gconfd/, .gstreamer-0.10/, and .pulse/ |
| 03:11.34 | bookmark | how can i get a spanish keyboard in debian? |
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| 03:14.59 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark: locales |
| 03:15.13 | bookmark | i just want accents in openoffice and i can't get it to work |
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| 03:15.15 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: Isn't he after keymaps? |
| 03:15.51 | jpinx-eeepc | might be - I use both keyboards - no fancy mapping;) |
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| 03:16.32 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark: you're probably looking for ñ more than anything |
| 03:16.54 | bookmark | well i could put a few of thos in with a pen, i really need the accents |
| 03:17.01 | bookmark | because i could never remember where they all go |
| 03:17.10 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark: that is AltGr } n on my UK keyboard |
| 03:17.11 | bookmark | ill just get an F rather than worry about it |
| 03:17.40 | Arafangion | bookmark: Get a permanent marker, and write the accents on those keys that work with the dead key to give you the accents. |
| 03:17.55 | bookmark | what keys dude? |
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| 03:18.20 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark - I've just told you one key combinationâáà |
| 03:18.32 | bookmark | altgr? |
| 03:18.33 | dkr | no accento, no punto |
| 03:18.36 | bookmark | wtf is altgr? |
| 03:18.52 | jpinx-eeepc | the Alt key on teh right of your spacebar |
| 03:19.05 | Arafangion | bookmark: Depending on the keyboard you have, it might be the left alt, or the right, or you might have a meta key... |
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| 03:19.29 | ajavid | jpinx-eeepc, greetings |
| 03:19.41 | bookmark | i have no special ennyay whatever |
| 03:19.42 | Arafangion | has seen keyboards that have an actual AltGr. |
| 03:19.54 | ajavid | its usually the winkey |
| 03:19.57 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: mine has ;) |
| 03:20.24 | bookmark | i just need some simple ol accents how come no one know this? are there no spanish people here? |
| 03:20.53 | Arafangion | bookmark: I highly suspect that the spanish people here have a real, spanish keyboard. |
| 03:20.55 | nkuttler | bookmark: :help digraph in vim |
| 03:21.01 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark: I use both languages and I use AltGr the accent |
| 03:21.19 | Arafangion | nkuttler: He's using openoffice.org |
| 03:21.29 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: I type in Spanish on a UK keyboard quite happily |
| 03:21.32 | jmd | When a config file says: " DO NOT TOUCH HERE", how many lines from that imperitive does it refer? |
| 03:21.41 | nkuttler | doesn't oo have some kind of... input helper? |
| 03:21.46 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: But not with a US keyboard? |
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| 03:21.52 | jmd | At what point after that warning is it safe to touch? |
| 03:21.55 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: everything after that until it says it's ok |
| 03:22.12 | oh_noes | how do I tell if /dev/random causing a process to block? |
| 03:22.17 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, The whole file? That can't be right. |
| 03:22.22 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: fair comment - but surely AltGr exists? |
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| 03:22.28 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd why not? |
| 03:22.35 | nkuttler | altgr=alt+ctrl |
| 03:22.42 | coney | my laptop i'm on has basicly the same specs as an eeepc |
| 03:22.51 | Arafangion | jmd: If it's ================== FOO =======================, then if you see another =====================, you may assume that it's the end of that section. |
| 03:22.52 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, Because then the whole package is pointless. |
| 03:22.54 | coney | same atheros card |
| 03:23.13 | Arafangion | nkuttler: I suspect that it has to be configured to allow that. |
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| 03:23.23 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: Nope, no AltGr on a US layout. |
| 03:23.41 | jpinx-eeepc | nkuttler: hmm ctrl alt doesn't do it for me |
| 03:24.09 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: he neds to do some experimenting with key combinations |
| 03:24.26 | jpinx-eeepc | I am amazed considering Spanish is USA's second language |
| 03:24.36 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: Those combinations might not exist, I seem to remember that one has to enable "dead keys" on a US keyboard. |
| 03:24.46 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd aptitude purge the package then |
| 03:24.48 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: But I've forgotten how to do that. |
| 03:24.51 | Wicked | hello all. im trying to setup apache with usermod. i sym linked the two usermod files to mods-enabled but its not working right its complaining of "client denied by server configuration: /home/mike/public_html/" |
| 03:25.07 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: It essentially becomes a form of digraph entry, iirc. |
| 03:25.07 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, Done that several times today. |
| 03:25.29 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark: hope you're following this 0- you need to google a bit more - we have all solved this and forgotten - or we never needed it |
| 03:25.51 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd - then just delete the config files in your home dir |
| 03:26.35 | nkuttler | Wicked: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/ClientDeniedByServerConfiguration |
| 03:26.52 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, I don't have a home dir |
| 03:27.10 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: where is this config fle then? |
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| 03:27.27 | jmd | /etc/mail |
| 03:27.35 | Wicked | nkuttler, ok ill go scope that out. thanks |
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| 03:27.45 | jpinx-eeepc | and what package have you deleted jmd ? |
| 03:27.54 | jmd | sendmail* |
| 03:28.04 | Arafangion | bookmark: You should take a look at gnome-keyboard-layout, if you can, select the international US Keyboard, I think it's '(Intl)'. |
| 03:28.05 | oh_noes | how do i make /dev/random generator more seed data? |
| 03:28.17 | Arafangion | bookmark: I can't test it on my system as I'm doing too much stuff. |
| 03:28.24 | oh_noes | I have an app using it, but it's not creating enough random data and the app is stopped and waiting |
| 03:28.30 | pab | Still having problems setting $JAVA_HOME in /etc/profile. Google's not helping. Any recent stuff? |
| 03:28.44 | Arafangion | oh_noes: Buy a cat. :) |
| 03:29.16 | oh_noes | ? |
| 03:29.29 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: not my area, but if it's a specific sendmail config file I'd back it up, delete it, check for wierdness and then delete the backup |
| 03:29.56 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, Yes. I've been through that cycle several times today. |
| 03:30.08 | Arafangion | bookmark: gnome-keyboard-properties, that is. |
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| 03:30.47 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: if there's no hassles after you deleted/moved the config file, delete it completely then |
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| 03:31.02 | bookmark | where would i set LANG environmental variable? |
| 03:31.21 | Arafangion | bookmark: Your issue is not the locale, it's the keymap. |
| 03:31.47 | jpinx-eeepc | bookmark: locales is probably what you're looking for - but please search google before asking more here |
| 03:31.51 | jpinx-eeepc | !search |
| 03:31.52 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking. Eg, 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install) 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online), and <help find> (bot). <dpkg search> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
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| 03:32.43 | coney | teach em to fish! |
| 03:32.58 | jpinx-eeepc | !google |
| 03:32.59 | dpkg | i guess google is a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. Its website can be found at http://www.google.com/ See also <gmail>. |
| 03:33.04 | jvogel | Anyone use Dell Latitude E6400/E6500 Laptop?? |
| 03:33.21 | jpinx-eeepc | jvogel: probably |
| 03:33.26 | jvogel | :| |
| 03:33.38 | jpinx-eeepc | !ask |
| 03:33.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:34.28 | IamSOG | !source.list |
| 03:34.34 | nsadmin | jpinx-eeepc: how will they know if they can -answer- if you don't -ask-? |
| 03:34.39 | IamSOG | !sources.list |
| 03:34.39 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 03:35.23 | nsadmin | err wrong person... |
| 03:35.28 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell nsadmin about ask |
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| 03:36.02 | nsadmin | jvogel was who I meant :) sorry jpinx |
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| 03:36.17 | jpinx-eeepc | nsadmin: ;) |
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| 03:43.41 | Chipdancer | hopefully easy question -- how do I find all of the intermediate kernels between the release lenny kernel and the latest 2 which are listed in the repo (linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 and linux-image-2.6.26-1-686)? |
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| 03:44.15 | Chipdancer | (I have come up against an IPSec/IPv6 bug in linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 and am trying to work out where that bug occurred) |
| 03:44.27 | Chipdancer | well, it's not in linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686, it's somewhere *after* that |
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| 03:47.10 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: If it is easily reproducable, then the easiest option is to install 2.6.24-etchnhalf, and each subsequent kernel until you have find the one in which the bug is introduced. |
| 03:47.30 | Chipdancer | Arafangion: that's what I'm trying to do |
| 03:48.01 | Chipdancer | aptitude search linux-image only shows variants of 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1, 2.6.26-1 and 2.6.26-2 |
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| 03:48.12 | Chipdancer | (and a bunch of previous ones before 2.6.24) |
| 03:48.19 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: So, 2.6.24 is fine, but not 2.6.26-1 or -2? |
| 03:48.33 | Chipdancer | Arafangion: correct (and it's the etchnhalf version, not lenny) |
| 03:48.49 | Arafangion | (Does lenny even have 2.6.24?) |
| 03:49.04 | Chipdancer | don't know, probably not |
| 03:49.10 | Chipdancer | I thought I saw a 2.6.25 somewhere |
| 03:49.23 | Arafangion | Try the kernel.org source code versions. |
| 03:49.40 | jmd | Where's the forum for sendmail on debian? |
| 03:49.56 | Arafangion | Specifically 2.6.24 first, which surely shouldn't exhibit the bug, and then 2.6.26, which should exhibit the bug. (If it doesn't, then your work just got reduced!) |
| 03:51.48 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: did it brek something? |
| 03:52.00 | jpinx-eeepc | *break |
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| 03:52.36 | Chipdancer | I'm tempted to just try a newer kernel than is in the lenny repo |
| 03:53.02 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, The whole sendmail suite on lenny seems to be completely broken. |
| 03:53.26 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: Backporting a Sid kernel might not be a bad idea. |
| 03:53.28 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: I thought you said you had purged it? |
| 03:53.42 | Chipdancer | Arafangion: would I need to actually backport it, or just install it? |
| 03:53.52 | jmd | Yes. And then when I reinstall it, Ithe same old problems occur. |
| 03:54.02 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: _probably_ fine to just install it, but it's good practice to actually backport it. |
| 03:54.17 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: are you running stable? |
| 03:54.21 | jmd | yes |
| 03:54.24 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: Infact, it would be highly recommended to properly backport it. |
| 03:54.43 | Chipdancer | Arafangion: how do I do that correctly? |
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| 03:54.55 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: and you're sure you did aptitude purge sendmail -- as root? |
| 03:55.03 | Arafangion | !simple sid backport |
| 03:55.04 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 03:55.18 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: Talk to him in privmsg for more detail. :) |
| 03:55.20 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, I did dpkg --purge |
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| 03:55.37 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: do the command I gave you |
| 03:56.06 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell jmd about why aptitude |
| 03:56.25 | Chipdancer | neat bot |
| 03:56.53 | jpinx-eeepc | !blush |
| 03:56.53 | dpkg | I am becoming suffused with red in the cheeks, as from a sense of shame, modesty, or confusion. |
| 03:56.54 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: I seem to think that the latest apt-get has alot of those advantages as well, now. |
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| 03:57.18 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: yes - but not *all* of them |
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| 03:57.34 | jmd | jpinx-eeepc, OK. What do I do now? |
| 03:58.03 | jpinx-eeepc | jmd: what was the output of aptitude purge sendmail - paste it |
| 03:58.51 | jmd | Reading package lists... Done |
| 03:58.51 | jmd | Building dependency tree |
| 03:58.51 | jmd | Reading state information... Done |
| 03:58.51 | jmd | Reading extended state information |
| 03:58.51 | jmd | Initializing package states... Done |
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| 03:59.07 | jpinx-eeepc | idiot:-/ |
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| 04:00.00 | Arafangion | Now, THAT is a cool bot. |
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| 04:01.05 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: it's been off a lot today - makes you appreciate how much you use it;) |
| 04:02.33 | Arafangion | :) |
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| 04:06.16 | dewente | I need test my webserver someone has a web proxy for test it by myself ? |
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| 04:21.05 | Chipdancer | buggeration - even 2.6.29 from backports exhibits the same problems I'm seeing in 2.6.26 |
| 04:21.09 | Chipdancer | back to 2.6.24 and it all works |
| 04:21.21 | jpinx-eeepc | does http automagically try an alternate port if 80 is not available? |
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| 04:21.33 | epsas | jpinx - no |
| 04:21.56 | jpinx-eeepc | epsas: thanks - I was afraid that was the answer:( |
| 04:22.34 | jpinx-eeepc | Chipdancer: I wasn't paying enough attention before - what are you trying to do? |
| 04:23.10 | Chipdancer | jpinx-eeepc: I have an ipsec tunnel between 2 offices carrying both v4 and v6 traffic |
| 04:23.34 | Chipdancer | after upgrading from 2.6.24, the v6 traffic only travels in one direction (outbound) and doesn't seem to return |
| 04:24.10 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: I've be frightened if it were. |
| 04:24.11 | Chipdancer | the remote end is an openbsd box so I can tcpdump an interface to debug |
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| 04:25.46 | jpinx-eeepc | Chipdancer: sorry v6 and tunnelling is beyond me;) |
| 04:26.11 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: Do you happen to have access to the .config used for both kernels? |
| 04:26.30 | jpinx-eeepc | Chipdancer: I can only suggest a very methodical de-bug project |
| 04:26.36 | Chipdancer | Arafangion: probably - they are lenny and bpo repo kernels |
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| 04:26.46 | Chipdancer | oh, and the etch repo kernel |
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| 04:27.38 | Arafangion | jpinx-eeepc: He's already doing that. |
| 04:27.59 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: Comparing the .config's would be a quick way to see if compile settings have changed. |
| 04:28.26 | jpinx-eeepc | Arafangion: cool :) |
| 04:29.14 | Chipdancer | Arafangion: so what's the easiest way to get those for official kernels? |
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| 04:31.13 | Arafangion | Chipdancer: Not sure. :( When I care, I usually compile my own. |
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| 04:34.59 | omid8bimo | hey guys, how can i disbled or turn off the beep kinda sound when i'm inside gnome? |
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| 04:37.09 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: Muting the volume isn't enough? |
| 04:37.47 | omid8bimo | Arafangion: no it's not system volume. it's like the system beep check when BIOS start , u know? |
| 04:38.29 | Arafangion | is deaf - he guesses that his system might be noisier than he expected. |
| 04:39.04 | omid8bimo | :( |
| 04:39.34 | omid8bimo | i have gnome-audio installed but system bell option is off at System/Preferences/Sound |
| 04:40.09 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: What causes the beeping? |
| 04:40.11 | omid8bimo | why i get BIOS beep sound when i'm inside system? when i press delete i get it, when i press backspace i get it |
| 04:40.24 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: In the terminal emulator? |
| 04:40.50 | omid8bimo | Arafangion: yeah even in terminal when prompt is ready and i press backspace |
| 04:41.04 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: Which one do you use? |
| 04:41.34 | omid8bimo | Arafangion: it's not matter of terminal |
| 04:41.43 | omid8bimo | it's system error or system bell |
| 04:42.08 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: It seems that gnome-terminal has an option for that. |
| 04:42.21 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: But other terminals would not respect gnome preferences, so you'd have to turn it off for them. |
| 04:42.37 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: In the past I just opened the box and removed that speaker. |
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| 04:43.24 | omid8bimo | Arafangion: okay so i'll turn off for terminal, what about when i'm inside nautilus and press delete or backspace to go back? |
| 04:43.31 | omid8bimo | still i hear it |
| 04:43.37 | bsulzer | hey ev'ryone |
| 04:43.43 | omid8bimo | it's system bell i know that, but i can't turn it off |
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| 04:44.38 | bsulzer | got the following queestion: is it possible that debian writes mails locally at /var/mail/[sth]? |
| 04:44.57 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: This might be good for your terminal stuff: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-linux-disable-or-turn-off-beep-sound-for-terminal/ |
| 04:45.08 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: As for nautilus... That's another issue. |
| 04:45.33 | omid8bimo | Arafangion: thanks |
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| 04:50.05 | jmd | How can I avoid debconf pestering me with warnings like debconf: (No usable dialog-like program is installed, so the dialog based frontend cannot be used. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 75.) |
| 04:50.18 | omid8bimo | still i don't know to turn off system bell |
| 04:50.23 | omid8bimo | :-| |
| 04:51.58 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: Try this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions.org-member-success-stories-23/turn-off-the-annoying-bell-pc-speaker-in-debian-etch-594405/ |
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| 04:53.48 | bobby__ | Hello People. |
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| 04:54.16 | johny-b-goode | Hello People. |
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| 04:54.53 | johny-b-goode | I installed apache2. I'm reading the doc at http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Setting_up_an_SSL_server_with_Apache2. |
| 04:55.25 | johny-b-goode | it says to run apache2-ssl-cerrtificate, but it says command not found. |
| 04:56.23 | ssm | johny-b-goode, on lenny? |
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| 04:56.51 | johny-b-goode | yeah, on lenny. |
| 04:57.33 | johny-b-goode | rather I think on lenny. I'm a debian noob. using 2.6.26 kernel. |
| 05:00.40 | ssm | johny-b-goode, the package "ssl-cert" should have a command named "make-ssl-cert" you can use |
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| 05:08.18 | omid8bimo | Arafangion: that's it. i got it, thatnk you so much |
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| 05:10.20 | Arafangion | omid8bimo: That did the trick? Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for next time, now that I know what the heck that "flashing" thing is, as I'd probably have to disable that the same way. :) |
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| 05:13.37 | Shazzamy_ | Ok so i partitioned off about 25GB for debian |
| 05:14.26 | Shazzamy_ | And i was wondering when i go to install debian again, will i be able to select just that partition? Not the whole 440GB hard drive? |
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| 05:14.37 | Shazzamy_ | 400GB* |
| 05:14.53 | johny-b-goode | ssm: thanks. was googling. |
| 05:15.06 | johny-b-goode | ssm: created cert. |
| 05:15.17 | Shazzamy_ | And also, will i be able to boot into either debian or my other os? Or will debian get rid of my other os? |
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| 05:22.11 | Shazzamy_ | Hello? |
| 05:22.22 | Tangotango | Is there any way to get a list of all config files that have been changed from their distributed version? |
| 05:22.23 | Arafangion | Shazzamy_: What you are after is called dual booting. |
| 05:22.34 | jvogel | If I need to update to 2.6.27 kernel for hardware compatibility, should i just go to 2.6.29 ? |
| 05:22.40 | Arafangion | Shazzamy_: There are many tutorials on this subject, I'm sure. |
| 05:22.47 | Arafangion | jvogel: Sure. |
| 05:23.01 | jvogel | is it easy to compile |
| 05:23.07 | Arafangion | jvogel: No less easy. |
| 05:23.15 | jvogel | what is estimate on 2.4 GHz dual core |
| 05:23.18 | mischief | the kernel is very easy to compile |
| 05:23.26 | mischief | boring to watch build, but easy to do |
| 05:24.04 | Arafangion | mischief: You *watch* it build?!? Wow, what is the world getting to!? |
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| 05:24.12 | Arafangion | tones down his sarcasm. |
| 05:24.20 | Shazzamy_ | Arafangion: Ya i know it's dual booting/triple/quintic booting, but when i installed ubuntu, it installed GRUB for me, does debian do that? |
| 05:24.25 | mischief | Arafangion, i fap while watching it build. >:) |
| 05:24.34 | Arafangion | mischief: Of course! |
| 05:24.40 | mischief | Shazzamy_, only if you tell it to |
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| 05:24.53 | Shazzamy_ | Where can i tell it to? |
| 05:25.06 | Shazzamy_ | Near the end of the install process? |
| 05:25.08 | nsadmin | to fap... or not to fap... how do I decide when I don't know what fapping is?! |
| 05:25.18 | Arafangion | Shazzamy_: If you have a fast system, try it outself in vmware. |
| 05:25.18 | Shazzamy_ | Cause it wants me to format my hdd |
| 05:25.36 | Shazzamy_ | ? |
| 05:25.36 | mischief | Shazzamy_, you don't have to do anything if you don't want to |
| 05:25.50 | Shazzamy_ | Im not following? |
| 05:26.07 | Arafangion | nsadmin: That is the question. :) (What a perverted misquote this is!) |
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| 05:29.08 | matt76761 | I would like to add an directory to root PATH, but there is no ".bash_profile" file in /root/ directory. How can I add directory to my PATH variable? |
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| 05:30.01 | Lish | i was install something from executable with ./install.sh , i have the istallet folder to ~/ how can i remove them? |
| 05:30.15 | Shazzamy_ | So before formatting my hdd, the debian install disk(cd-1) asks ne if i want to install grub? |
| 05:30.22 | dmoerner | matt76761, put it in /root/.bashrc |
| 05:30.40 | Shazzamy_ | Installing debian is more confusing than ubuntu |
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| 05:30.53 | mischief | Shazzamy_, probably for a good reason |
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| 05:31.05 | mischief | Shazzamy_, if it confuses you too much, better stick with a simpler OS. |
| 05:31.22 | dmoerner | Lish, read through install.sh, and see what it installed, and then manually rm each one of them |
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| 05:33.12 | bsulzer | hello ev'rybody |
| 05:33.30 | bsulzer | is it possible to receive some logs as mail? |
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| 05:35.38 | Shazzamy_ | Sorry my ipod froze |
| 05:35.46 | Shazzamy_ | What did you say before i left? |
| 05:36.13 | Arafangion | Shazzamy_: You have irc on your ipod? |
| 05:37.09 | mischief | man, i don't think the rt2860 wifi module that comes with 2.6.29 works :\ |
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| 05:38.50 | prophet | hey, is it normal for scp to take 99% cpu as process sshd>? |
| 05:39.04 | prophet | when transfering a file, this happened |
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| 05:39.32 | Shazzamy_ | Arafangion: Yes i do :) |
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| 05:40.31 | lukas | Hi, I need to set hostname correctly to make my exim working, I set /etc/hostname to myname.localdomain and /etc/hosts to 127.0.0.1 myname.localdomain localhost and it did not work. Could anyone help? |
| 05:40.55 | lukas | hostname -f gives me still unknown host |
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| 05:42.20 | lukas | and .. I have not found any good format in man hostname |
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| 05:44.07 | Lish | i don't like this method with rm:P any other ideas? |
| 05:44.24 | Shazzamy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.12 | Lish | i was install fpc from ./install.sh and is horroble ti remove them |
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| 05:48.32 | Arafangion | Lish: This is why people use package managers. |
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| 05:49.27 | Lish | with make :P is better:P from ./inst :P ^^ |
| 05:49.54 | mischief | does anyone here uses splashy? |
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| 05:51.40 | Quazar | hmm |
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| 05:56.13 | mischief | can anyone tell me why Network Manager ways 'device not managed'? |
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| 06:00.17 | streuner | no, just use interfaces ;-) |
| 06:00.39 | streuner | mischief: btw, what kind of Debian do you use? |
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| 06:01.00 | mischief | streuner, sid :x |
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| 06:01.24 | streuner | hm, what BTS say about? |
| 06:01.32 | mischief | what? |
| 06:01.43 | streuner | !btssmite mischief |
| 06:01.44 | dpkg | beats mischief around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if mischief is running testing or unstable |
| 06:02.24 | streuner | mischief: what does "cat /proc/version" say? |
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| 06:03.02 | Shazzamy_ | !smite Shazzamy_ |
| 06:03.03 | dpkg | smites Shazzamy_ with a plague of penis-enlargement spam |
| 06:03.16 | mischief | streuner, as in kernel version? |
| 06:03.16 | Shazzamy_ | Hahahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahah |
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| 06:04.18 | streuner | mischief: just run that command and tell us the output |
| 06:04.31 | mischief | streuner, it's not like i can paste it |
| 06:05.21 | streuner | mischief: /exec -o cat /proc/version |
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| 06:06.03 | Pulpie | any idea when xfc 4.6 will be moved to stable? |
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| 06:06.49 | mischief | streuner, i can't do that either |
| 06:06.54 | mischief | i am not on the machine in question |
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| 06:07.11 | Pulpie | xfce 4.6* |
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| 06:07.32 | jmd | What's the correct way to open up sendmail to external hosts? |
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| 06:07.57 | Spida | jmd: sendmail, or "something sending mail"? |
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| 06:08.14 | mischief_ | streuner, |
| 06:08.14 | jmd | Spida, ?? |
| 06:08.27 | mischief_ | Linux version 2.6.29-2-686 (Debian 2.6.29-5) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.3 (Debian 4.3.3-10) ) #1 SMP Sun May 17 17:56:29 UTC 2009 |
| 06:08.46 | streuner | fine, just look at the BTS now |
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| 06:09.04 | streuner | if you have issues, just use interfaces |
| 06:09.29 | mischief_ | streuner, i can't use that either |
| 06:09.37 | mischief_ | i've been trying to get wifi working for a couple days now |
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| 06:09.59 | mischief_ | i stopped trying with network manager a while ago, but using /etc/network/interfaces does not work either |
| 06:10.07 | streuner | why do you think NM would make the job better? |
| 06:10.11 | Spida | jmd: are you talking about the program named sendmail, the command sendmail, or about sending mail? |
| 06:10.31 | mischief_ | streuner, i dunno, but it would be cool if it worked |
| 06:10.33 | streuner | mischief: what chipset? |
| 06:10.35 | jmd | sendmail, the MTA |
| 06:10.50 | streuner | !listkeys wireless |
| 06:10.52 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'wireless' by key (15 of 17): #debian wireless ;; _default wireless ;; compat-wireless ;; intel pro wireless 2100 ;; seattlewireless ;; what's my wireless ;; what-wireless ;; wireless ;; wireless connection manager ;; wireless connection managers ;; wireless howto ;; wireless tree ;; wireless-infrared/radio control ;; wireless-more ;; wireless-tools. |
| 06:10.56 | mischief_ | streuner, RA2860 |
| 06:11.00 | gane | i am trying to install the windows from debian using xen .. but it is not happeng what to do |
| 06:11.04 | streuner | !listvals 2860 |
| 06:11.06 | dpkg | Factoid search of '2860' by value (8): rt2860sta ;; ralink ;; rt2800 ;; ens1371 ;; eee ;; rt2860 ;; rt2870 ;; rt2860 eee. |
| 06:11.14 | gane | hi |
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| 06:11.22 | streuner | mischief: hm, /msg dpkg rt2800 |
| 06:11.33 | mischief_ | 2800? that's not my card :\ |
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| 06:12.21 | streuner | mischief: thats not a ralink chipset? |
| 06:12.32 | mischief_ | streuner, sure it might be, but not mine |
| 06:12.44 | gane | the document what i am following is working for xen 2.6.20 kernel .. but it is not working for the latest xen kernel of version 2.6.26 |
| 06:13.00 | streuner | mischief: well, we need the output of "lspci -vv" about |
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| 06:14.52 | codeshepherd | does output from /etc/ini.d/* during bootup get return to some specific log file ? ... I don't find them in /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog |
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| 06:15.38 | mischief_ | streuner, http://paste.offblast.org/view/72125206 |
| 06:16.32 | streuner | hm, RT2860 |
| 06:17.11 | vy | Hi! I have an erronous cron job that makes crond to dump "CRON[4046]: Permission denied" lines to syslog. Particularly, I know which job causes this error, but I'd like to trace it from logs. Any ideas? |
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| 06:17.31 | streuner | mischief: so what doesnt work with /msg dpkg rt2860? |
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| 06:19.25 | streuner | mischief: besides, did you read the entry in wiki.debian.org too? |
| 06:19.36 | mischief_ | streuner, yea, of course i read all of it |
| 06:19.57 | mischief_ | the modules that come with the 29 kernel don't seem to work, and the modules for eee pcs from source don't compile |
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| 06:21.33 | streuner | mischief: any entry in BTS about? |
| 06:22.12 | streuner | mischief: bugs.debian.org/linux-image-`uname -r` |
| 06:24.27 | mischief | nothing there about rt2860 streuner |
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| 06:24.36 | gane | the debian document what i am following is working for xen 2.6.20 kernel .. but it is not working for the latest xen kernel of version 2.6.26 |
| 06:24.47 | ajavid | hi |
| 06:24.50 | streuner | mischief: #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net |
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| 06:25.37 | streuner | mischief: they surely know more about |
| 06:25.59 | mischief | eh :\ |
| 06:26.13 | gane | when i run " xm create debian.cfg" -- it is not throwing any error it is just saying , starting the domain .. but the window is not opening to install the os |
| 06:26.22 | streuner | well, i run Debian on serveral boxes, but not on a eeepc |
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| 06:28.53 | joe-mac | anybody wanna help me troubleshoot why a package i created and signed and put in a custom repo that i also signed the Release file is still saying it can't be verified on a client? the key is plainly seen in apt-key list on the client too. |
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| 06:32.50 | hippo | Hello, does debian support td-cdma which is a kind of 3G? |
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| 06:35.16 | karsten | hippo: In what regard? |
| 06:35.25 | karsten | hippo: ... and what would "support" mean? |
| 06:36.22 | hippo | karsten, td-cdma is a standard of 3G, it might be a small usb disk, then I want to know if I plug it in my debian system, can I surf the web? |
| 06:37.01 | karsten | hippo: I don't know from what you're asking. |
| 06:37.05 | hippo | karsten, like cdma2000, I think kernel should have a certain driver to drive it. |
| 06:37.06 | karsten | hippo: Any relation to EVDO? |
| 06:37.25 | karsten | hippo: If it's in the mainstream Linux kernel, it should be in Debian. |
| 06:37.36 | hippo | karsten, I see. thanks. |
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| 06:38.41 | karsten | hippo: Google'd this? |
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| 06:40.36 | karsten | hippo: Nearest ref I find: http://www.ip97.com/t_mobile_launches_internet_4g_service_powered_by_td_cdma_from_bdgb.aspx |
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| 06:41.34 | comradekingu | RE: (03:49:46 AM) comradekingu: Should i use the sync mount option on a SSD installation? |
| 06:41.41 | comradekingu | No you should not, because it prevents HAL from starting, lesson learnt |
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| 06:49.11 | ootput | ssd installation? |
| 06:49.48 | joe-mac | comradekingu: does it really? why? |
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| 06:53.28 | comradekingu | joe-mac: I dont know, it isnt what i thought it was i assume. |
| 06:54.09 | joe-mac | the sync option? it enables synchronous io |
| 06:54.18 | joe-mac | no clue why that would break HAL... |
| 06:55.21 | comradekingu | joe-mac: Could it be because i disabled swap or enabled noatime, other than that i didnt do anything |
| 06:55.53 | joe-mac | disabling swap would probvably do it before any of those other things. sync is more likely to cause your system to go slow. granted it should be less noticeable on an SSD |
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| 06:56.36 | jelly-home | unless it's a cheapish ssd and small writes |
| 06:56.49 | joe-mac | sync is kind of dumb unless it';s a mission critical system |
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| 06:56.54 | joe-mac | true |
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| 07:09.43 | comradekingu | joe-mac: i was getting "increasing min_delta_ns to 15000 nsec" and it stalled there for a bit before booting into X |
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| 07:15.31 | omid8bimo | hey, can i install debian/linux from a iso image that is hosted on a server? like boot from pxe and install from that iso image? |
| 07:16.29 | Supaplex | why not use netboot? |
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| 07:16.32 | Supaplex | !netboot |
| 07:16.32 | dpkg | it has been said that netboot is a Debian installation method involving the use of TFTP and DHCP (or BOOTP, RARP) servers, to provide installation media to clients on a local network. Not recommended for novice users, ask me about <netinst> instead. See also <install guide>, <netboot miniiso>. To include non-free <firmware> within Debian netboot images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware |
| 07:16.56 | omid8bimo | Supaplex: what's netboot? |
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| 07:17.35 | omid8bimo | Supaplex: i want to be able to install several types of linux, not just debian |
| 07:17.52 | omid8bimo | so if i have like 4 types of isos |
| 07:17.58 | omid8bimo | how can i boot them? |
| 07:18.11 | omid8bimo | and also instead of tftp, can i use http? |
| 07:18.15 | omid8bimo | or even ftp? |
| 07:18.18 | jelly-home | omid8bimo: you'd have to look up each distro's way of network installation |
| 07:18.25 | Supaplex | perhaps with pxegrub, or linuxbios |
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| 07:19.25 | omid8bimo | jelly-home: oh |
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| 07:23.09 | creature_ | can you unmount / in single user mode? |
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| 07:24.02 | creature_ | or what should you do when you need operation done to the system partition that requires it to be unmount |
| 07:24.33 | adb | boot a livecd ? |
| 07:24.44 | creature_ | what if you don't have a cdrom drive |
| 07:25.19 | adb | use usb live |
| 07:25.33 | creature_ | what if the bios doesn't support booting to USB |
| 07:26.04 | adb | put the pc to trash |
| 07:26.24 | creature_ | yea big help you are |
| 07:26.38 | simonrvn | boot to another hdd... |
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| 07:26.48 | adb | add a new hard |
| 07:27.17 | nsadmin | creature_: like what operations? |
| 07:27.26 | creature_ | hmm guess ill do that |
| 07:27.27 | nsadmin | the livecd idea is good |
| 07:27.45 | creature_ | i think i have some old HD that has lenny on it already |
| 07:28.11 | creature_ | ill just hook it up and boot there |
| 07:28.14 | geophoenix | is there a GUI tool to Create/Test a .deb package of a application ? |
| 07:28.24 | nsadmin | I think you have plenty of ideas now (not sure you didn't before either) |
| 07:28.55 | adb | geophoenix: chroot ? |
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| 07:29.33 | geophoenix | adb:what? |
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| 07:30.09 | adb | use debootstrap to install a test system |
| 07:30.40 | adb | use chroot to enter this test system |
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| 07:32.54 | geophoenix | adb: chroot ( could not find the package) , found only fakechroot , dchroot , schroot |
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| 07:33.09 | adb | !tell geophoenix about debootstrap |
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| 07:33.19 | adb | !tell geophoenix about chroot |
| 07:33.31 | geophoenix | thanks |
| 07:33.36 | adb | np |
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| 07:39.57 | Jemt | Hello guys. I cloned a 4GB USB stick containing a Debian installation to a 8GB stick using 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096'. The stick contains two partitions where the last partition is the root partition. Using fdisk I removed the last partition and recreated it, this time I allowed it to use the entire space (4 GB was unused). Now I should be able to resize the filesystem using resize2fs which works fine. The only problem is: How do I fin |
| 07:39.57 | Jemt | d the number of blocks in the new partition? The block count in fdisk is incorrect. First of all, the filesystem (ext3) uses 4K blocks, fdisk assumes 1K blocks. One would think that the fdisk block count could provide me with the right result with the following calculation : fdisk block count / 4 = ext3 block count. However, this does not give me the correct result. If I run 'resize2fs /dev/sdb 9999999999999', it will tell me the real number of |
| 07:39.58 | Jemt | blocks, and that's different from any other amount I'm able to find. Can someone help me ? |
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| 07:40.18 | intx | anyone know how to change the write cache size? |
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| 07:42.47 | jelly | Jemt: don't give the block number at all. |
| 07:43.30 | jelly | Jemt: resize2fs will resize to fill the available partition space |
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| 07:44.10 | Jemt | jelly: Oh, very neat. I will try that. Thank you :) |
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| 07:47.47 | nsadmin | Jemt: now that you have a solution,,, might be worth a moment to see if and how the man page says it |
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| 07:51.35 | caraconan | Hi. I'm trying to install debian squeeze i386 cd1, but get this: |
| 07:51.41 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m5b8f5df2 |
| 07:51.47 | Jemt | nsadmin: I checked immediately after Jelly wrote it; "If size parameter is not specified, it will default to the size of the partition.". I guess I didn't read the man page carefully enough |
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| 07:52.23 | nsadmin | Jemt: very cool... you just learned a new wrinkle... |
| 07:52.37 | caraconan | The NIC works fine (tested with Ubuntu 9.04), but I can't install previous versions of lenny, because installation fails with bad signature error. Any idea? |
| 07:53.23 | caraconan | And I checked ok the cd integrity |
| 07:53.24 | nsadmin | bad signature of what? |
| 07:53.31 | Jemt | nsadmin: Yes, indeed. Usually I only read the description of each parameter, not all the "nonsens" in the beginning. I guess it's quite important too :) |
| 07:53.38 | caraconan | When try to connect to repositorie |
| 07:53.56 | caraconan | It's absolutely weird, because sometines works, sometimes fails |
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| 07:54.23 | nsadmin | Jemt: it's reference docs, so you're either reading to memorize for more efficient use later, or to answer a specific question |
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| 07:55.05 | Jemt | nsadmin: I usually read it when I have a specific question. I guess I just didn't read it carefully enough this time. Could have saved me some trouble |
| 07:55.29 | nsadmin | in any case, glad it worked out |
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| 07:57.44 | caraconan | I get an i/o error on device sr0 also, and maybe this... But I checked the integrity of cd. I will try with another cd unit |
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| 08:02.15 | fanti | hello! i need to recompile xorg source with a custom patch for ati's fglrx graphics driver. i downloaded the source via apt-get source xorg-server, applied the patch and check dependencies via apt-get build-deb. i'm wondering how to increase the version number from xorg-server.1.6.1.901 to 1.6.1.9XX before compiling with dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 08:03.27 | coney | maybe an unstable sources branch? |
| 08:03.37 | coney | or download the source manually |
| 08:03.54 | coney | cause you want the latest and greatest right? |
| 08:04.35 | fanti | i just like to rewrite the package's version number, that my custom compiled package will not get overridden by the next apt-get upgrade |
| 08:04.37 | matt76761 | if I want to send a bug report for bug 524940, then should I just send an email using my own email address with my problem description to 524940@bugs.debian.org ? |
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| 08:05.40 | nsadmin | matt76761: typically you'd use reportbug |
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| 08:06.44 | nsadmin | fanti: try editing the changelog |
| 08:06.52 | nsadmin | err coney |
| 08:07.20 | coney | you had it right the first time |
| 08:07.35 | coney | i'm problem free.... for now |
| 08:07.40 | nsadmin | ohyeah I did didn't i :) |
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| 08:08.47 | coney | kinda stoked about it too, sure there are other issues i could tackle right now but i'm so happy i got my openwrt router working mmcmod+ipv6 tunnel after a power surge corrupted the previous firmware |
| 08:08.59 | coney | figure i'd bask in it for awhile |
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| 08:09.35 | notape | how do i search within man? |
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| 08:10.11 | Jemt | notape: Hit SHIFT + / |
| 08:10.18 | matt76761 | nsadmin: reportbug will send an email for me based on the answers I give? |
| 08:10.19 | Jemt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:18.36 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 08:18.52 | aprendiz001 | anyone knows how to add security repository in a local debian mirror? |
| 08:19.34 | aprendiz001 | with the official http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror I can only choose the architecture |
| 08:19.37 | aprendiz001 | any idea? |
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| 08:20.39 | d-b | aprendiz001: eh its security.debian.org |
| 08:20.43 | d-b | !security |
| 08:20.44 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
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| 08:22.13 | caraconan | wodim speed=0 => Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 24.0 in real TAO mode for single session. |
| 08:22.22 | caraconan | wodim speed=1 => Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 16.0 in real TAO mode for single session. |
| 08:22.43 | caraconan | man says thath speed=0 sets to lower value, but not in my case |
| 08:22.52 | caraconan | How can set the minimum speed to burn a cd? |
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| 08:23.52 | fanti | hmm after installing console-setup, the default terminal font has changed. how can i configure the console font? |
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| 08:27.20 | aprendiz001 | d-b, yes I know, I am asking for sync with my mirror |
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| 08:37.43 | creature_ | what the hell is: /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f |
| 08:37.54 | creature_ | it always freezes up and takes all the CPU |
| 08:38.49 | petemc | !arts |
| 08:38.49 | dpkg | hmm... arts is the multimedia framework of KDE, or teh sux, or see "esound". Arts Ruins Teh Sound |
| 08:39.02 | creature_ | well its a piece of shit |
| 08:39.15 | creature_ | i have to always kill -9 it |
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| 08:39.24 | krgn_ | hi |
| 08:39.32 | creature_ | how do i disable it |
| 08:40.04 | krgn_ | why would it be that pbuilder will insist on not uploadin the sources with the package, although I run debuild with -S -sa? |
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| 08:40.52 | krgn_ | anyone got a clue? I do backports to lenny and it seems that somewhere it fussing about NMU or something related? |
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| 08:52.31 | alb_ | hi, is anybody having problems with handling of alternatives in sid? |
| 08:53.05 | bolt | hi, is anybody getting error messages when they do stuff? |
| 08:54.42 | maxagaz | i can execute "ssh myhost ls", but not "ssh myhost for a in b ; do ls ; done", why ? |
| 08:55.06 | alb_ | example: update-alternatives: error: alternative x-terminal-emulator.1.gz can't be slave of x-terminal-emulator: it is a master alternative |
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| 08:56.07 | bolt | maxagaz: try quoting your command |
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| 08:58.40 | maxagaz | bolt, it doesn't work better |
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| 08:59.21 | tdn | I use proftpd but I cannot connect to it from outside my LAN. I get this error in the log: May 26 10:56:52 mediaserver0 proftpd[2754] localhost (::ffff:195.249.157.72[::ffff:195.249.157.72]): error setting IPV6_V6ONLY: Protocol not available |
| 08:59.38 | bolt | maxagaz: ssh host "for a in *; do ls $a; done" |
| 08:59.42 | bolt | maxagaz: works very well for me |
| 08:59.52 | bolt | maxagaz: pointless, but it works |
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| 09:04.18 | tdn | How do I fix this? |
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| 09:06.27 | maxagaz | bolt: this doesn't work: ssh rulaifo "for usr in ls ; do echo $usr ; done" |
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| 09:11.09 | aprendiz001 | tdn, are you using IPB6? |
| 09:11.15 | aprendiz001 | IPV6, I mean |
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| 09:12.37 | ramvi | When I try to upgrade, some packages are held back (partial upgrade). I want to know what package is making them being hold back - how do I do that? |
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| 09:18.22 | tdn | aprendiz001, no. IPv4 only. |
| 09:18.22 | ronr | hi, somehow my machine got screwed up (testing) and it's trying to install a package which does something my current dpkg doesn't support, but I can't upgrade dpkg because it keeps complaining about that half installed package, how do I tell apt-get to shut up about that package, let me install the latest dpkg and then fix the half installed package? |
| 09:19.32 | aprendiz001 | tdn, /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf |
| 09:19.50 | aprendiz001 | param UseIPv6 what do you have, off or on? |
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| 09:20.11 | ronr | --force-all, :) |
| 09:20.26 | tdn | aprendiz001, on. |
| 09:20.52 | aprendiz001 | then, what should you put? |
| 09:21.12 | tdn | aprendiz001, done :) |
| 09:21.26 | aprendiz001 | working? |
| 09:21.27 | tdn | aprendiz001, although this does not fix the issue. |
| 09:21.34 | tdn | aprendiz001, nope. I can still not log in. |
| 09:21.51 | aprendiz001 | have you restarted the service? |
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| 09:22.19 | tdn | The setup is as follows: ftpserver is behind NAT. I have another computer that is behind firewall (not NAT) that tries to connect to ftpserver, but it fails. |
| 09:22.22 | tdn | aprendiz001, yes. |
| 09:23.04 | aprendiz001 | the message is the same? |
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| 09:23.40 | tdn | aprendiz001, no. The IPv6 message is gone. Maybe it was not related. Now I get: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1316.html |
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| 09:24.58 | aprendiz001 | I can't see the error now |
| 09:25.12 | aprendiz001 | USER mediauser001: Login successful. |
| 09:25.34 | aprendiz001 | that means you get login, |
| 09:25.42 | tdn | aprendiz001, yes. Login works. |
| 09:25.55 | aprendiz001 | what is the problem then |
| 09:25.56 | tdn | aprendiz001, but the client cannot LIST |
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| 09:26.24 | aprendiz001 | and upload? |
| 09:26.29 | agaran | passive ? |
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| 09:26.37 | agaran | set ftp to passive? |
| 09:26.38 | tdn | agaran, I have tried both passive and active. |
| 09:26.47 | tdn | agaran, both the same. |
| 09:26.51 | agaran | what client you use? |
| 09:26.52 | tdn | I use FileZilla for test. |
| 09:27.34 | aprendiz001 | tdn, try to upload something an give back the message in the log |
| 09:27.36 | agaran | hmm, might be that nat causes problem |
| 09:27.55 | agaran | ftp protocol passes ip inside stream so it might pass local one |
| 09:27.58 | tdn | aprendiz001, can I upload without LIST? |
| 09:28.09 | agaran | tdn: sure |
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| 09:28.23 | eshaase | anyone know how to change the name of a logical volume? |
| 09:28.31 | agaran | lvrename? |
| 09:28.51 | aprendiz001 | agaran, I have a mirror in my company with debian lenny |
| 09:29.06 | aprendiz001 | but I can't find to sync with debian security |
| 09:29.09 | aprendiz001 | is it possible? |
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| 09:32.00 | zsol | hello people |
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| 09:32.35 | zsol | any idea why is the etch repository signed with lenny's keys? |
| 09:33.08 | bluethundr_ | i am able to test my mail server by telnetting to it from another box on the network. but it doesn't look like can actually send mail yet. |
| 09:33.09 | bluethundr_ | http://pastebin.com/m4809f8cb |
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| 09:33.19 | turip | re |
| 09:34.23 | wide | debian lenny laptop, kde, I installed virtualbox, now in bash, whenever I create a file or directory, my group is virtualbox instead of my login name (1 user setup). Looked at bash and profile config files for user and in etc, made sure login name was set as the default group in kusers (kde config file for users), still no luck avoiding virtualbox as group for my bash sessions (and anything else?) |
| 09:38.01 | tdn | Can't I set passive ports in proftpd to only port 20? |
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| 09:39.35 | heruan_ | Hi! How should I report a "bug" in sid? |
| 09:39.45 | Arafangion | Hey, I've made caps lock an additional ctrl key in Gnome, but... |
| 09:40.13 | Arafangion | When I press it, the caps lock light still goes on! (This is an x86 system, no hardwired caps keys like as in the apple computers...) |
| 09:40.48 | janmejay | Arafangion: http://codehunk.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/key-mapping-in-gnulinux-debian-lenny/ |
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| 09:41.42 | aprendiz001 | tdn, have you tried to upload something? |
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| 09:41.57 | kovan | how do I know if a library that is not included in sid is in the process of being included? |
| 09:42.15 | Arafangion | janmejay: That's insane, but thanks. |
| 09:42.20 | Arafangion | janmejay: It used to work just fine! |
| 09:42.41 | Arafangion | janmejay: Surely just teling X11 to use ctrl-swapcaps should be sufficient!? |
| 09:43.38 | tdn | aprendiz001, nope. FileZilla will not let me do that. |
| 09:43.58 | Arafangion | Another question is that I've got a piece of shit graphics tablet, which I'd like to use as a graphics tablet, however, any accelleration makes it useless (because it distorts the drawing) - how do I fix this so that I can use the graphics tablet? |
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| 09:44.13 | Arafangion | (Note, at the same time, I need acceleration for my mouse, otherwise it's just too slow!) |
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| 09:44.24 | aprendiz001 | tdn, if you want I can try |
| 09:44.25 | tdn | aprendiz001, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/P1317.html |
| 09:44.32 | ethanw | Arafangion: have you looked for a specialised driver? |
| 09:44.56 | ethanw | Arafangion: my finepoint is fine alongside my mouse with its driver in xorg.conf |
| 09:45.11 | ethanw | finepoint=tablet btw |
| 09:45.13 | Arafangion | ethanw: Hmm, I'm going to suppose I'm just out of luck on that count. |
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| 09:45.26 | ethanw | Arafangion: depends who made it |
| 09:45.51 | Arafangion | ethanw: That's very hard to find out, I think I'll just use it in standalone mode, and transfer the drawings across. |
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| 09:46.11 | ethanw | Arafangion: ok. nameless stuff tends to be fun |
| 09:46.25 | Arafangion | ethanw: Indeed. |
| 09:46.26 | janmejay | Arafangion: np |
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| 09:47.08 | Arafangion | ethanw: It's really a "digital notepad". |
| 09:47.19 | ethanw | Arafangion: ahh ok |
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| 09:51.30 | zsol | Anyone has any idea why is the etch apt repository signed with lenny's keys? Am I missing something? |
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| 09:53.48 | Sebo | Hi! How can I check from shell which proceses are overloading my CPU ? |
| 09:53.57 | ethanw | ps aux |
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| 09:54.13 | petemc | top |
| 09:54.37 | ethanw | or that, yeah :) |
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| 09:57.02 | Sebo | thx :) |
| 09:57.57 | ethanw | actually top beats picking thru ps listings, use it instead |
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| 10:00.55 | nsadmin | top will be on its own list typically |
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| 10:02.40 | Sir-Integra | Hey, i'm getting random reboots after upgrading from etch to lenny, using the kernel 2.6.26-2-xen |
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| 10:02.50 | Sir-Integra | has anyone else encounted this problem, or is there a fix for it? |
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| 10:05.41 | creature_ | is there an alternative to smb4k? |
| 10:06.10 | martian67 | creature_, if you install samba the functionality is built right into kde/konqueror |
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| 10:06.32 | creature_ | martian67: but for gnome |
| 10:06.34 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra maybe your logs show or suggest why |
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| 10:08.22 | infinity0 | er, synaptic or aptitude-gtk? |
| 10:08.29 | Sir-Integra | nsadmin, they don't show anything. |
| 10:08.35 | infinity0 | and is debian planning to replace the default "package manager" with aptitude-gtk? |
| 10:08.36 | Sir-Integra | nsadmin, not about the crashes, anyway. |
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| 10:10.41 | martian67 | infinity0, no |
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| 10:13.52 | almost | trying to make some perl scripts exe in /usr/bin/cgi-bin with the line chmod 755 /usr/bin/cgi-bin/non-email-step20.pl chmod cannot access '/usr/bin/cgi-bin/non-email-step20.pl no such file or directory |
| 10:14.15 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra do other kernels fail to crash? |
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| 10:14.33 | elfranne | I cannot install debian on vmware, the hdd is not detected ... any idea ? |
| 10:14.52 | Sir-Integra | Well, the server was running fine without issues until upgrading to lenny and installing that kernel. |
| 10:14.57 | Sir-Integra | (the latest kernel) |
| 10:15.17 | ethanw | elfranne: that a scsi or ide hdd? |
| 10:15.18 | nsadmin | what version was the kernel you had? |
| 10:15.45 | elfranne | ethanw: default is scsi |
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| 10:16.10 | ethanw | elfranne: i dont think it will make a difference, but try changing it to ide and trying again |
| 10:16.14 | nsadmin | elfranne: and what are -your- drives? |
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| 10:18.40 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra what version was the kernel you had? |
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| 10:18.57 | infinity0 | aptitude-gtk has a "view dependency chain"... what's that? |
| 10:19.00 | Sir-Integra | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.06 | Sir-Integra | is what i'm using. |
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| 10:19.19 | Sir-Integra | i've seen lots of posts on maillists and forums about the same issue |
| 10:19.20 | nsadmin | that's the one that crashes? |
| 10:19.21 | elfranne | nsadmin: what do you mean by that ? the physical drive ? I tried Ubuntu and Mandriva on this pc without any problem ... |
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| 10:20.28 | nsadmin | elfranne: curious, what brings you to debian? |
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| 10:21.21 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra it sounds like your hardware is not at fault if you can run other tings without crashing |
| 10:21.29 | elfranne | nsadmin: a list of different drivers that I can select ... a long list. Anyway the fix that ethanw said worked |
| 10:21.34 | Sir-Integra | yeah, it's something down to the kernel. |
| 10:21.55 | gihan | hello, im using debian and my /dev/md1 is 100% what can i do for free some space? |
| 10:22.02 | ethanw | elfranne: ahh cool. I couldnt remember if buslogic support was in the install kernel, it seems not |
| 10:22.10 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra do you know what kernel you were using before? |
| 10:23.12 | Halleck | If I've installed a lot of applications with aptitude but also a good amount with synaptic, is there a best choice when upgrading my packages? |
| 10:23.17 | Sir-Integra | nsadmin, one second |
| 10:23.43 | Halleck | fyi I may have a few packages which are not in the standard repositories |
| 10:24.48 | Sir-Integra | nsadmin, 2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-686 |
| 10:24.52 | gihan | any one can help me please? |
| 10:25.19 | nkuttler | gihan: rm stuff? |
| 10:25.19 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra for the dom0 or the domUs or both? |
| 10:25.52 | Sir-Integra | nsadmin, what do you mean? |
| 10:25.59 | Sir-Integra | sorry, don't mean to sound like an idiot. |
| 10:26.19 | nsadmin | oh, are you running virtualization with xen? |
| 10:26.30 | Sir-Integra | yes. |
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| 10:26.43 | Danielss89 | i've bought a server with debian and plesk installed, and today i did a dist upgrade to lenny, and now i get this error from proftpd: mod_tls/2.1.2 compiled using OpenSSL 0.9.8c headers but linket to 0.9.8g library |
| 10:26.50 | Danielss89 | fatal error: Unable to load module mod_tls: operation not permitted |
| 10:26.52 | nsadmin | ok, so when you boot, the hypervisor starts the first domain |
| 10:26.57 | nsadmin | the first os |
| 10:27.02 | Danielss89 | how do i fix this so it links to the right version of openSSL og give it the permission? |
| 10:27.04 | nsadmin | it's called the dom0 |
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| 10:27.17 | nsadmin | when you start guest OSes, those are domUs |
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| 10:27.32 | gihan | nkuttler: i dont see any big content which size of more than 4 gigs |
| 10:28.07 | nkuttler | gihan: buy new, bigger hd |
| 10:28.25 | meingbg | How can I intercept keyboard events sent to the X server and pipe them through a program of my choice before they are handled by X? |
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| 10:28.56 | gihan | nkuttler: its a 750GB one but /dev/md1 have only 4 gigs |
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| 10:29.50 | ethanw | gihan: are you sure you're actually using the hd? cos md1 isn't usually a name for a hard disk |
| 10:30.16 | nsadmin | if you only have one hd, why use the md system? |
| 10:30.23 | Sir-Integra | dom0, nsadmin . |
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| 10:30.41 | gihan | ethanw: http://pastebin.com/mc6b0411 |
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| 10:31.19 | gihan | nsadmin: its my server. thats how it came |
| 10:31.21 | nsadmin | Sir-Integra: ok, what happens when you try to run your older kernel with lenny? |
| 10:31.24 | nkuttler | gihan: uh, /var/ on 4G, have fun |
| 10:31.30 | fishsponge_ | hey people - which package do i need to install to solve this problem? Can't locate RRDs.pm in @INC |
| 10:31.48 | fishsponge_ | i've run "apt-get install rrdtool" already, but that hasn't helped... |
| 10:31.57 | nkuttler | gihan: man du |
| 10:32.47 | nsadmin | fishsponge_: that's a perl message |
| 10:32.52 | fishsponge_ | indeed it is |
| 10:32.56 | petemc | fishsponge_: apt-cache search rrd |grep perl |
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| 10:33.13 | petemc | its usually libfoo-perl |
| 10:33.16 | Sir-Integra | one sec, nsadmin . |
| 10:33.23 | fishsponge_ | petemc, librrdp-perl and librrds-perl - one is "piped" and the other is "shared"... |
| 10:33.25 | fishsponge_ | which one do i need? |
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| 10:33.40 | nkuttler | gihan: you running stable on that box, aren't you? |
| 10:33.48 | nsadmin | I'd say rrds |
| 10:33.51 | fishsponge_ | because |
| 10:33.53 | fishsponge_ | ? |
| 10:33.54 | nsadmin | look at the error message |
| 10:33.58 | nkuttler | gihan: anyway, apt-get clean |
| 10:34.00 | petemc | Can't locate RRDs.pm |
| 10:34.14 | fishsponge_ | what does "apt-get clean" do? |
| 10:34.22 | nkuttler | fishsponge_: man apt-get |
| 10:34.39 | gihan | ya afte apt-get clean only 39M free |
| 10:34.57 | fishsponge_ | ah, ok... so apt-get clean basically clears out disk space... i have loads, but thanks for the note :-) |
| 10:35.14 | nkuttler | gihan: 4G really isn't much for /var/, /usr/ etc |
| 10:35.44 | gihan | nkuttler: anyway to increase? |
| 10:35.55 | nsadmin | remembers his 1g drive and how it had 600 whole mb for linux |
| 10:36.00 | nkuttler | gihan: new drive, re-partition, etc |
| 10:36.16 | nkuttler | nsadmin: that was probably without some 'modern' desktop |
| 10:36.25 | ethanw | remembers my 500mb, and that was ALL for linux :) |
| 10:36.46 | nsadmin | nkuttler: I had all of 4m of ram at first |
| 10:37.15 | nsadmin | this was just before linux-1.0 |
| 10:39.34 | gihan | nkuttler: ok thanks |
| 10:40.07 | nkuttler | gihan: oh, you could probably mount --bind too, that's rather messy though |
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| 10:41.48 | IamSOG | !GUI package manager |
| 10:41.57 | IamSOG | !package manager |
| 10:41.58 | dpkg | You can use several package managers in Debian. From the console, aptitude and apt-get are popular tools. In X, synaptic seems to be popular. Whatever you use, be consistent and try to avoid mixing package managers. dpkg, which is not a package manager, gets told what to install/remove/etc by the package manager. See also <aptitude> <apt-get> <dselect> <synaptic> |
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| 10:42.21 | IamSOG | !Gui package manager |
| 10:42.27 | nkuttler | !tell IamSOG about msg the bot |
| 10:42.35 | nsadmin | ... or /msg dpkg Gui package manager |
| 10:42.59 | Selveste1 | Hay :) I have a mixed environment - and wants to make roaming profiles, my server is Debian Etch, and the clients is Ubuntu + Debian + Windows XP + Mac OSX, is there a way to do this? |
| 10:43.23 | IamSOG | thanks nkuttler and nsadmin I am trying to get Synaptic, but it said package is missing, so I will ask the bot and see :D |
| 10:43.23 | apt | IamSOG: de rien |
| 10:43.29 | Danielss89 | i've bought a server with debian and plesk installed, and today i did a dist upgrade to lenny, and now i get this error from proftpd: mod_tls/2.1.2 compiled using OpenSSL 0.9.8c headers but linket to 0.9.8g library |
| 10:43.33 | fishsponge_ | i've just put a new script (correctly formatted) in /etc/init.d - how can i enable it so that service is run on startup? On other systems, i'd use either chkconfig or insserv, but what do i do here? |
| 10:43.33 | Danielss89 | fatal error: Unable to load module mod_tls: operation not permitted |
| 10:43.35 | meingbg | Is there a way to intercept keyboard events sent to the X server and pipe them through a program of my choice before they are handled by X? That is, alter the events. |
| 10:43.35 | Danielss89 | how do i fix this so it links to the right version of openSSL og give it the permission? |
| 10:43.56 | petemc | fishsponge_: update-rc.d |
| 10:44.40 | fishsponge_ | petemc, if i run "update-rc.d foobar defaults", will that use the values in the commented out section at the top of the file then? |
| 10:45.07 | fishsponge_ | assuming my script is called foobar, of course |
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| 10:46.59 | maxagaz | Could someone tell me how to also remove the slash after opt in this command: ssh -t myhost 'for usr in /opt/* ; do sudo du -kh $usr | tail -1 | grep G | sed 's/opt//g'; done' |
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| 10:47.21 | petemc | fishsponge_: you pass parameters to it to tell it which values to use, ive never heard of it looking in a file |
| 10:47.25 | azeem | maxagaz: which slash |
| 10:47.42 | fishsponge_ | so what is the "BEGIN INIT" section at the top of each file in init.d for then? |
| 10:47.49 | azeem | maxagaz: do you mean something like "sed 's#opt/##g' ? |
| 10:47.53 | maxagaz | azeem, the sed command remove 'opt', but i want to remove '/opt/' |
| 10:47.59 | nsadmin | maxagaz: s/// can use any delimiter |
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| 10:48.17 | nsadmin | you could try s./opt/.. |
| 10:48.34 | azeem | maxagaz: then try what I wrote |
| 10:49.12 | IamSOG | anyone know of another GUI package interface other than Synaptic? I tried to "aptitude install synaptic" but it said "No candidate version found for synaptic" |
| 10:50.11 | azeem | IamSOG: then fix that, don't look for alternatives |
| 10:50.20 | azeem | IamSOG: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:50.22 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 10:50.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 10:50.27 | nsadmin | azeem: he claimed to want to get rid of the leading / too |
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| 10:50.39 | zamba | how can i capture all traffic from a specific host using tcpdump? |
| 10:50.43 | IamSOG | brb |
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| 10:50.57 | zamba | but maybe not traffic over a certain length (like downloads and stuff) |
| 10:51.05 | elfranne | there are 6 DVD on available on the ftp do I really need all the 6 dvd to install debian ? |
| 10:51.14 | zamba | i have a host sitting in my network that's infected with malware and i want to adit what it's doing |
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| 10:51.28 | nsadmin | zamba tcpdump can do this, you have to check the man page |
| 10:51.36 | ethanw | elfranne: just use the netinst cd |
| 10:51.47 | Zyferus | elfranne, you only need the netinst cd if you have internet access |
| 10:52.12 | ethanw | !tell elfranne about lenny install |
| 10:52.23 | elfranne | i have that but is for another computer with a very slow inter connection |
| 10:52.43 | ethanw | elfranne: ahh ok |
| 10:52.52 | ethanw | elfranne: well no you wont need all 6 |
| 10:53.03 | ethanw | elfranne: what are you trying to install, apps wise? |
| 10:54.02 | elfranne | just a basic desktop computer |
| 10:54.29 | ethanw | elfranne: then you should be ok with just the first disk. assuming you dont need kde |
| 10:54.47 | ethanw | elfranne: (from memory tho) been a while since i did a straight iso install |
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| 10:56.53 | elfranne | ethanw: thanks |
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| 11:01.23 | Halleck | I'm running Etch 4.0 stable and haven't upgraded any packages in a while, now I'm getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/37130 |
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| 11:02.47 | gionn | Halleck, is not a fatal error, you're missing some public key used for verifying the downloaded packages |
| 11:02.49 | Halleck | my problem seems to be addressed in http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt in the "Debian archive key expiry" section but I can't find a fix |
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| 11:03.12 | Halleck | oh okay... so I can continue with the dist-upgrade? |
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| 11:03.44 | joltcan | Halleck: gpg --recv-keys 9AA38DCD55BE302B ; gpg --export 9AA38DCD55BE302B | apt-key add - |
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| 11:04.32 | Halleck | joltcan, gpg: no keyserver known (use option --keyserver) |
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| 11:05.25 | Halleck | i think the ones I need are here? https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
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| 11:06.08 | agaran | gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys <keyid> ? |
| 11:06.14 | Danielss89 | is it possible to degrade from OpenSSL 0.9.8g to OpenSSL 0.9.8c ? |
| 11:06.21 | Danielss89 | with the apt-get command? |
| 11:06.54 | joltcan | Halleck: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Howtofindakey |
| 11:06.57 | agaran | Halleck: --keyserver as above |
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| 11:10.24 | fishsponge_ | how do i install a .deb file? i've only ever installed things through apt-get... now i have a .deb file sitting here, i've no idea what to do! |
| 11:10.50 | ethanw | dpkg -i filename |
| 11:10.50 | dpkg | package filename is already installed |
| 11:11.01 | ethanw | shutup dpkg |
| 11:11.04 | Halleck | haha |
| 11:11.08 | ethanw | but why not use apt-get? |
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| 11:16.25 | rootmos | is it possible to have two different subnets on one interface and if so how do i route that? |
| 11:16.28 | fishsponge_ | i can't use apt-get because this .deb isn't in the repos |
| 11:17.16 | ethanw | fishsponge_: ahh ok |
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| 11:17.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | rootmos, try with a virtual interface |
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| 11:18.32 | rootmos | Kamping_Kaiser: i have tried that but routing dosent work. |
| 11:19.19 | Kamping_Kaiser | rootmos, whats doesnt work mean? |
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| 11:23.38 | rootmos | Kamping_Kaiser: forget it i was not thinking clearly |
| 11:23.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | :) |
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| 11:25.31 | SethX | does anybody know about a free (as in open source, or non-commercial) odbc driver to connect a remote m$sql databases to my mysql database? |
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| 11:25.44 | SethX | all i can find is something by easysoft, and their licence is some 1k dollars |
| 11:26.17 | SethX | also, unixodbc.com only lists easysofts driver as the only one to do this |
| 11:26.20 | Arafangion | SethX: I suggest you just develop a win32 program, in python, that provides the server component you need. |
| 11:26.48 | IamSOG | um... where is the bot |
| 11:26.54 | petemc | dpkg: yo |
| 11:26.54 | dpkg | yao! |
| 11:27.03 | SethX | Arafangion: actually its a one time a day task, ie a cronjobbed import of data |
| 11:27.22 | SethX | i'd even be happy with an automatized batch export > import |
| 11:27.52 | SethX | Arafangion: unfortunatley i dont have the time to develop this |
| 11:28.00 | SethX | my licence is expiring tomorrow, and i need the site to stay live |
| 11:28.05 | Arafangion | SethX: If that's it, then use windows facilities to do that. |
| 11:28.15 | Arafangion | SethX: Windows does have the capability to schedule tasks. |
| 11:28.43 | Danielss89 | i've bought a server with debian and plesk installed, and today i did a dist upgrade to lenny, and now i get this error from proftpd: mod_tls/2.1.2 compiled using OpenSSL 0.9.8c headers but linket to 0.9.8g library |
| 11:28.45 | Danielss89 | fatal error: Unable to load module mod_tls: operation not permitted |
| 11:28.49 | Danielss89 | how do i fix this so it links to the right version of openSSL og give it the permission? |
| 11:28.54 | SethX | Arafangion: i've been avoiding the windows world like plague in the last years so i'm a bit a noob at this point. could you give me some more specific pointers perhaps? sorry for the OT... |
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| 11:29.10 | rootmos | Kamping_Kaiser: I wanted the impossible. To route to a network that i was not part of. That was my error. |
| 11:29.30 | Selveste1 | Hay :) I have a mixed environment - and wants to make roaming profiles, my server is Debian Etch, and the clients is Ubuntu + Debian + Windows XP + Mac OSX, is there a way to do this? |
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| 11:29.58 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: yes, with ldap - but it is quite complex |
| 11:30.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | rootmos, oops. |
| 11:30.38 | Arafangion | SethX: Dude, you have a requirement to use MS SQL. So suck it up. |
| 11:30.40 | Halleck | I couln't get that method working so I upgraded debian-archive-keyring and that got rid of the error |
| 11:30.57 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: can LDAP no just provide the user logins ? not handle the data right ? |
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| 11:33.06 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: you se ldap for the userinformation - mount points for profiles etc. - then you supply mountpoints thru samba for windows-clients and nfs for unix/linux-clients - with correct uid and gid-mappings etc. |
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| 11:33.55 | Selveste1 | ah :) then I will dive into that :) thanx :) |
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| 11:34.11 | petemc | SethX: if you google for "odbc mssql linux" you should find plenty of info, most of it better than "write your own" or "suck it up" |
| 11:34.47 | SethX | petemc: unfortunatley most of those links reference unixodbc.com or easysoft.com indirectly |
| 11:34.54 | SethX | which are commercial drivers |
| 11:35.03 | petemc | oh |
| 11:35.07 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: good luck and have fun |
| 11:35.09 | petemc | write your own then, or suck it up |
| 11:35.12 | petemc | ;) |
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| 11:35.15 | SethX | hahahah |
| 11:35.18 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: Thanx :) |
| 11:35.19 | SethX | sobs |
| 11:35.21 | Arafangion | petemc: He also needs it "today"... |
| 11:35.33 | SethX | Arafangion: so what |
| 11:35.50 | SethX | Arafangion: you never had a deadline? |
| 11:36.01 | Arafangion | SethX: Not the kind you're talking about. |
| 11:36.20 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: I all ready have the windows clients roaming with samba and LDAP :P so just have to get NFS mount working now then :) |
| 11:36.42 | SethX | its software, for eternally existing databases, it cant be that the market is reigned by one and only one commercial product |
| 11:36.50 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: nfs and 32-bits uids is.... a paint =) |
| 11:36.52 | OpenTokix | pain |
| 11:37.02 | sylarrr | can lvm use physical devices that are iSCSI from other machines? |
| 11:37.31 | SethX | ok, i'll reformulate. how else, other than a odbc connector, would you connect a mssql and a mysql database? |
| 11:37.52 | Arafangion | SethX: I wouldn't. Cross-DB referential integrity is such a nightmare that I won't even contemplate. |
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| 11:38.13 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: thanx for the encouragement XD |
| 11:38.13 | Halleck | I may be misguided in this idea, but is there a way to make aptitude/synaptic remember the current state of my system in case I want to revert a large upgrade? |
| 11:38.13 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: =) |
| 11:38.15 | Arafangion | SethX: Especially amongst different vendors. |
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| 11:43.06 | Halleck | ah screw it, i'll just go for it |
| 11:43.09 | kellyh | Halleck: use --get-selections with dpkg to a file |
| 11:44.08 | Halleck | kellyh, cool, thanks. How can I use that to restore? |
| 11:44.12 | frankS2 | Hi anyone here know how i can set passive mode with lftp? |
| 11:44.27 | kellyh | Halleck: use it the other way |
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| 11:44.46 | kellyh | Halleck: i can't off top of my head remember the full syntax etc, but it gives you a starting point at least |
| 11:44.55 | Halleck | ok thanks. |
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| 11:46.03 | kellyh | Halleck: np :) |
| 11:46.13 | hevalbaranov | hi all, I've a key file that contains RSA modulus. I have to convert it to a pem file, is it possible? |
| 11:46.29 | Danielss89 | does debian have a built in ftp support, so i can send a folder to a remote ftp server? |
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| 11:47.46 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: The worst thing is the lack of documentation |
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| 11:48.59 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: yeah, I know - been there once - I gave up pretty fast and changed jobs instead =) |
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| 11:58.03 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: That's not an option for my :P I have convinced the Boss that *NIX is the way ahead, We have changed ALL Win2k3 server to Debian etch and lenny - so I can't bail on them now :P |
| 11:58.17 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: =) |
| 11:58.33 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: I am one of the lucky few with a 100% linux-enviroment =) |
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| 12:00.20 | Selveste1 | OpenTokix: I'm still trying to move my Boss - But now I have green light to convert 50% of the WinXP to Debian if I can get this to work :P |
| 12:00.30 | OpenTokix | Selveste1: =) |
| 12:00.33 | petemc | Danielss89: you should have /usr/bin/ftp |
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| 12:02.56 | abrotman | Selveste1: get what to work? |
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| 12:03.55 | Selveste1 | abrotman: Roaming profiles in a mixed environment - Ubuntu + Debian + Windows XP + Mac OSX |
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| 12:04.46 | abrotman | Selveste1: what would you like the XP profile to do on debian? |
| 12:05.05 | abrotman | Selveste1: the best you'll be able to do is osmething like LDAP with $HOME on nfs .. but i'm not sure XP or OSX will enjoy that |
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| 12:05.45 | digin4 | how many cd isos should i download to have a normal desktop version? |
| 12:06.06 | Selveste1 | abrotman: Nothing - But clients have to get there documents and desktop no mater what host they a on |
| 12:06.07 | abrotman | digin4: depends what you need in the desktop .. most people use the netinst and get the rest from the internet |
| 12:06.10 | ethanw | digin4: cant you use netisnt |
| 12:06.12 | ethanw | **inst |
| 12:06.13 | ethanw | oh |
| 12:06.26 | digin4 | no i can't, i wanna mass deploy it, i need gnome and openoffice :) |
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| 12:06.42 | ethanw | mass deploy? |
| 12:06.48 | ethanw | cant you use a apt-cache? |
| 12:06.48 | digin4 | yep |
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| 12:06.53 | abrotman | digin4: so use something like apt-proxy |
| 12:06.54 | ootput | nobody *needs* those things |
| 12:06.59 | abrotman | ethanw: it's apt-cacher .. |
| 12:07.11 | digin4 | the first iso, it doesnt contain gnome?? |
| 12:07.17 | abrotman | yes, it does |
| 12:07.22 | abrotman | !tell digin4 about cd contents |
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| 12:07.37 | digin4 | thank you abrotman |
| 12:07.40 | digin4 | you're the man :o |
| 12:07.50 | abrotman | digin4: but really .. i'd probably use the netinst and an apt proxy |
| 12:07.50 | ootput | digin4: not enough bandwidth for the dvd set? |
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| 12:08.09 | digin4 | nope |
| 12:08.17 | digin4 | i wanna save bandwidth and time :) |
| 12:08.20 | abrotman | he'd only need the first DVD likely |
| 12:08.30 | ootput | if you've been (unfortunately) assigned the task of deploying debian on these lab machines, may as well reduce the number of install media required |
| 12:08.55 | ootput | even better |
| 12:09.10 | ootput | digin4: you're not volunteering your own bandwidth too, are you? |
| 12:09.18 | digin4 | no |
| 12:09.21 | ootput | btw, I absolutely despise tab-completing your nick |
| 12:09.43 | abrotman | digin4: really, look at something like apt-proxy/apt-cacher-ng/approx |
| 12:09.55 | digin4 | okay |
| 12:09.57 | digin4 | thanks |
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| 12:10.00 | abrotman | !apt-proxy |
| 12:10.00 | dpkg | i heard apt-proxy is a cool proxy for lots of Debian machines on a network together. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/237, or see also <apt-cacher>, or look at the approx package, or ask me about <apt-cacher-ng> |
| 12:10.32 | joe-mac | i use apt-proxy |
| 12:10.46 | ootput | isn't there a squid-cache mechanism too? |
| 12:10.47 | joe-mac | it's unstable as shit unless you throw a lot of ram at it,a nd ensure your backends are, for some reason, ftp |
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| 12:11.03 | joe-mac | squid is kinda overkill for this application |
| 12:11.07 | abrotman | there are other options besides apt-proxy |
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| 12:11.40 | joe-mac | yea, i just don't have time to test them out curerntly, and we're supposed to do a full mirror soon, so i've been putting it off heh |
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| 12:14.04 | emorris | hi, i don't suppose there is an easy way to get debian to automatically run dhclient when a network cable is plugged in, is there? |
| 12:14.31 | stew | emorris: have a look at ifplugd and netplug |
| 12:14.31 | petemc | emorris: you can use ifplugd or other things to do that |
| 12:14.58 | emorris | ok thanks |
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| 12:16.08 | omid8bimo | hey guys, i want to be able to install this linux over network, but i want to use the iso file somewhere on the server. is it possible? |
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| 12:21.11 | emorris | ifplugd was perfect; no configuration needed either! thanks! |
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| 12:21.50 | Orveldv | hi, lately I'm getting some random segfaults on my etch box (mc, mutt, dpkg) and I think it has smth to do with a kernel upgrade I did recently |
| 12:21.54 | Orveldv | is there a way to tell aptitude to downgrade the kernel ? |
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| 12:22.57 | ootput | omid8bimo: nfs mount |
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| 12:23.10 | petemc | Orveldv: do you still have the old kernel around to boot into? |
| 12:23.22 | Orveldv | petemc: no :-( |
| 12:24.01 | abrotman | Orveldv: upgrade to which kernel? |
| 12:24.42 | Orveldv | abrotman: the one I'm using now is 2.6.18-6-486 |
| 12:24.55 | Arafangion | Orveldv: Why so ancient? |
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| 12:25.00 | omid8bimo | ootput: what do mean? |
| 12:25.07 | abrotman | Arafangion: that's the current kernel in etch |
| 12:25.18 | ootput | omid8bimo: nfs mount the cdrom |
| 12:25.40 | omid8bimo | ootput: then how can i tell pxe to load that? |
| 12:26.16 | Arafangion | abrotman: Isn't etch oldstable? |
| 12:26.22 | abrotman | Arafangion: that's not the issue |
| 12:26.31 | Orveldv | rofl |
| 12:26.58 | Arafangion | Ok. :) |
| 12:27.24 | abrotman | Orveldv: have you tried to do any hardware testing? |
| 12:27.55 | abrotman | usually random segfaults are a hardware issue |
| 12:28.02 | Orveldv | abrotman: yeah, I changed like a madman RAM, IDE cables, BIOS options [...] |
| 12:28.24 | abrotman | the motherboard can be bad |
| 12:28.59 | Orveldv | the thing is it came sort of a sudden after the kernel upgrade |
| 12:29.14 | Orveldv | so I'm thinking to get back on the old kernel |
| 12:29.14 | abrotman | Orveldv: you could install the etchnhalf kernel |
| 12:29.42 | Orveldv | abrotman: okies thanks, let me search |
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| 12:30.23 | ootput | Orveldv: is the cpu operating at stock speed? |
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| 12:31.43 | ootput | Orveldv: segfaults can also be due to silly shell scripts |
| 12:32.16 | ootput | do you experience these errors with gui apps? |
| 12:32.24 | Orveldv | ootput: what's stock speed? this is an ancient AMD at 450 MHZ, been working perfectly for at least 1 year with this etch install |
| 12:32.46 | Orveldv | ootput: I don't run any gui apps on it, it's a small server |
| 12:33.02 | Orveldv | but I need it for my work |
| 12:34.41 | ootput | if dpkg is always segfaulting, you'll be hard pressed to go down that 'install older kernel package' route |
| 12:35.26 | Orveldv | of course my first thought was that the segfaults are caused by faulty hardware ; I guess I'll change the kernel and keep looking |
| 12:35.29 | Orveldv | ootput: no, not always, it happens randomly |
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| 12:36.15 | Orveldv | but there are only the motherboard and the CPU left to be changed |
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| 12:39.02 | Orveldv | ok I'll install linux-image-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-486 and see what happens |
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| 12:40.26 | Orveldv | petemc, abrotman, ootput: thanks |
| 12:40.35 | abrotman | did he fix it ? |
| 12:40.53 | abrotman | Orveldv: what CPU is it? |
| 12:41.51 | Orveldv | did't do it yet, if it fails and doesn't boot anymore I won't be able to complete this day work :-( |
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| 12:41.54 | Orveldv | AMD K6-2, 450 MHz |
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| 12:42.20 | johan_ | Does debian has any application like putty for windows? Where you can save different sessions, instead of using ssh? |
| 12:42.35 | maligor | there's putty for linux |
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| 12:43.10 | johan_ | maligor: Really? |
| 12:43.20 | ootput | johan_: ssh would still be a prerequisite |
| 12:43.25 | maligor | no, I'm joking, the putty package in apt is really a fake! |
| 12:43.40 | maligor | anyway, you can just make 'sessions' by writing shellscripts |
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| 12:44.14 | abrotman | Orveldv: the etchnhalf kernel should leave your old one in place |
| 12:44.20 | johan_ | Yep |
| 12:44.57 | maligor | seems to use gtk in linux |
| 12:45.05 | Orveldv | abrotman: great, I'm installing it |
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| 12:47.09 | sylarrr | how can i find out if the kernel support RTL8169 ? |
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| 12:49.22 | ootput | sylarrr: grep /boot/config- |
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| 12:51.10 | sylarrr | ootput, CONFIG_R8169=m CONFIG_R8169_NAPI=y CONFIG_R8169_VLAN=y |
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| 12:51.48 | ethanw | sylarr: yes then |
| 12:51.50 | ootput | sylarrr: thanks |
| 12:52.13 | sylarrr | ootput, thanks |
| 12:52.15 | johan_ | Dont know if this question fit here but have gnome some panel that shows in/out traffic? Like the xfce4-netload-plugin? |
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| 12:53.09 | ootput | netspeed applet? |
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| 12:53.33 | etx | i have concatenated all of my node's id_rsa.pub files into one authorized_keys2 file which i put in .ssh/ but now instead of asking me the root password, it asks for the passphrase. did i do smth wrong? i want passwordless login |
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| 12:54.07 | petemc | etx: when you created the keys, did you give them a passphrase? |
| 12:54.19 | ootput | etx: don't create passphrase during key generation |
| 12:54.19 | hanibana | hi all |
| 12:54.41 | hanibana | I have a server with 2G RAM. The dmeg output has this line: Memory: 2071472k/2097100k availablewhy all of memory is not available? |
| 12:55.09 | etx | ootput: is that safe? |
| 12:55.12 | etx | petemc: yes |
| 12:55.19 | petemc | so theres your problem |
| 12:55.31 | etx | petemc: but without passphrase is it sage? |
| 12:55.34 | etx | safe? |
| 12:55.35 | ootput | etx: tradeoff |
| 12:55.47 | ootput | as long as you don't lose the private key |
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| 12:56.58 | Alam_Lenny | you could use a ssh agent to 'cache' the key's password so you only enter the key's password at login once |
| 12:57.00 | johan_ | ootput: http://www.linuxsoft.cz/img/xfce6/obr_6r.jpg |
| 12:57.14 | ootput | etx: ssh-add <> ssh-agent for convenience |
| 12:57.49 | ootput | johan_: did you look into netspeed? |
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| 12:59.11 | ootput | johan_: http://projects.gnome.org/netspeed//images/netspeed1.png |
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| 12:59.58 | johan_ | ootput: thanks! I thought you dident understand my question... |
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| 13:01.50 | djouu | i trying to make a script works like a service, can anybody help me saying how to make this ? |
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| 13:03.15 | nkuttler | djouu: what do you mean? |
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| 13:11.46 | jvogel | Hi are there images with the latest kernel available for debian? |
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| 13:13.34 | nkuttler | jvogel: check backports.org |
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| 13:14.10 | abrotman | jvogel: which version of debian do you have ? |
| 13:14.53 | jvogel | I intend to install Squeeze |
| 13:15.00 | jvogel | But I need to rebuild kernel for hardwaer support |
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| 13:15.06 | jvogel | Intel 5100 Wireless card |
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| 13:15.31 | jvogel | im not sure what to do, get a modified image w/ latest kernel, build myself, etc |
| 13:15.55 | abrotman | you could probably grab the .29 from packages.debian.org and use it |
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| 13:16.49 | nkuttler | jvogel: you don't want a wireless install anyway |
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| 13:17.25 | abrotman | oh .. i misread |
| 13:17.29 | jvogel | I don't intend to install over wireless |
| 13:17.32 | abrotman | jvogel: plugin for the install |
| 13:17.43 | jvogel | I just need the wireless support EVENTUALLY |
| 13:17.49 | jvogel | Trying to figure out the best way to do it |
| 13:17.58 | abrotman | i just told you? |
| 13:18.00 | jvogel | I'll probably build it myself I'm just afraid I'll mess something up |
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| 13:18.06 | nkuttler | jvogel: /msg dpkg kp |
| 13:18.11 | jvogel | Yes, thanks, i'll look at that |
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| 13:18.17 | nkuttler | jvogel: and take a working config from /boot/ |
| 13:19.06 | jvogel | ok |
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| 13:21.26 | sylarrr | how is pci gigabit ethernet vs pcie perfomance (I would have only one pci nic)? |
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| 13:26.52 | agaran | how to force udev to f*ck off from renaming network devices? or how to get rid of that crap without breaking dependencies in dpkg? |
| 13:27.10 | CoolCold | agaran: nice question ;) |
| 13:27.20 | stew | agaran: you probably don't want to get rid of udev entirely |
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| 13:27.36 | agaran | stew: i was doing mknod by hand for 10 years.. |
| 13:27.50 | agaran | stew: i dont need any f...ing automaton which messes devices all time |
| 13:27.54 | CoolCold | i usually just delete it's data in /mnt/root/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules |
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| 13:27.56 | stew | agaran: then just remove it |
| 13:27.58 | agaran | another thing to keep/configure/etc |
| 13:28.09 | agaran | stew: that breaks deps for some packages in lenny.. |
| 13:28.09 | stew | agaran: you'll need a custom kernel, since you can't use an initrd anymore |
| 13:28.22 | stew | agaran: removing it should remove the dependencies as well |
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| 13:28.37 | agaran | stew: i will try then, i was almost sure that dmsetup installed it.. |
| 13:28.57 | stew | agaran: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 13:28.58 | ootput | agaran: look into /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 13:29.00 | agaran | CoolCold: sorry, but i rebooted machine and it dissapeared.. and got little mad why.. then i figured that udev had 'idea' |
| 13:29.25 | agaran | ootput: i placed own rules there, and some overly smart script adds own.. with different eth number so udev renames devices.. |
| 13:29.37 | agaran | stew: stock lenny kernel right now |
| 13:29.43 | agaran | stew: 2.6.29 -2 |
| 13:29.46 | stew | agaran: you'll need to replace that |
| 13:29.52 | agaran | no problem |
| 13:29.54 | stew | agaran: as the initrd creator uses udev |
| 13:30.12 | ootput | i'm not too fond of hal either, but xorg requires it |
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| 13:30.24 | agaran | sorry for curses, i just don't like when some scripts try to be too smart |
| 13:30.26 | stew | agaran: oh, right, you'd not be able to use X |
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| 13:30.55 | agaran | stew: hmm, so i need to replace debian then, i have X working on another four or five machiens with static dev and works.. but no debian there |
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| 13:31.05 | ootput | kill the script |
| 13:31.17 | agaran | ootput: /lib/udev/write_net soemthing? |
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| 13:32.07 | Fanisk | sory |
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| 13:32.08 | ootput | you'll need to find an older disto |
| 13:32.16 | ethanw | !pal Fanisk |
| 13:32.16 | dpkg | points at Fanisk and laughs hysterically |
| 13:32.24 | agaran | ootput: i tought that stable is ENOUGH old;) |
| 13:32.33 | stew | agaran: what exactly is udev doing wrong? perhaps it could be easily corrected |
| 13:32.44 | Fanisk | sorry pls ) |
| 13:32.55 | ethanw | Fanisk: its fine, d/w |
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| 13:33.17 | agaran | stew: i have one debian machine with lenny, upgraded bios, rebooted and udev helper triest to be smart and renames eth0 to eth1.. its only ethernet card right now.. |
| 13:33.36 | agaran | stew: and i'd like kick it to stop.. |
| 13:33.58 | stew | agaran: edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and rename them the way you want |
| 13:34.12 | agaran | stew: tried already, it adds own rule at end and does still same |
| 13:34.24 | agaran | stew: i wouldnt ask if idont tried such simple things before.. |
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| 13:34.32 | stew | agaran: which card? forcedeth? |
| 13:34.34 | agaran | it even adds same rule twice or thrice |
| 13:34.37 | hark | you don't need udev for X afaik |
| 13:34.38 | agaran | stew: yes forcedeth |
| 13:34.41 | ethanw | agaran: Write protect the file? |
| 13:34.42 | ootput | agaran: actually, any changes to the rules mentioned above should override write_net_rules behaviour |
| 13:34.43 | stew | agaran: /msg dpkg forcedeth mac |
| 13:35.03 | agaran | stew: before bios upgrade it wasnt doing such madness.. |
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| 13:35.22 | agaran | stew: thank you |
| 13:35.25 | stew | agaran: yes, that makes sense |
| 13:35.46 | agaran | yet another reason why i hate udev.. |
| 13:35.46 | agaran | tries to be overly smart |
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| 13:36.02 | agaran | who had trouble with mknod.. it works, its reliable and never try be smarter than user.. |
| 13:36.46 | stew | agaran: as you know, having ethernet cards renumber themselves can be annoying. this mechanism is there to prevent that |
| 13:36.59 | stew | it just wasn't expecting that a card would change mac address at every reboot |
| 13:37.07 | ootput | it's the ubuntu-isation of the civilised linux world |
| 13:37.15 | ootput | plug-n-play this and that |
| 13:37.20 | ulaelable | i am running the netinstaller and it is consistantly stuck at 'retrieving file 808' |
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| 13:37.44 | ethanw | ulaelable: is this when its downloading? |
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| 13:37.51 | ulaelable | yes |
| 13:38.09 | ethanw | could just be a big file |
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| 13:38.14 | ulaelable | damn |
| 13:38.15 | ethanw | how long has it been stuck? |
| 13:38.19 | ulaelable | i hope not |
| 13:38.22 | ootput | wow, what sort of bios update did you do? |
| 13:38.31 | ulaelable | it hasn't changed when i let it sit for 40 minuted |
| 13:38.51 | ethanw | that sounds like a stall |
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| 13:39.08 | ulaelable | is there any way to see a more detailed progress report |
| 13:39.21 | ethanw | theres on in the virtual terms |
| 13:39.28 | ethanw | i think its F4 |
| 13:39.32 | ulaelable | yeah |
| 13:39.37 | ootput | switch mirrors? |
| 13:39.55 | agaran | stew: might be, but usually enumeration was caused by order of load, so unless many cards on single driver the module load order was in charge |
| 13:40.01 | agaran | stew: and that was easilly fixable |
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| 13:40.10 | ulaelable | okay i'll try that |
| 13:40.18 | ootput | one of the function keys, i forget which |
| 13:40.18 | ootput | f5, perhaps |
| 13:40.23 | ootput | er, that's it |
| 13:40.33 | ulaelable | whoops, i restarted |
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| 13:40.41 | ulaelable | i'll come back and say how it goes |
| 13:40.57 | stew | agaran: its more nuanced than that |
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| 13:41.37 | rgammans | err, anyone remember what to do about /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly? (when doing grub-install) |
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| 13:41.53 | lolufail | hi there! :D |
| 13:42.07 | agaran | stew: i really have some experience with that, i just have an alergy on 'overly smart automaton scripts' |
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| 13:42.17 | agaran | stew: thank you very much for help |
| 13:42.17 | ootput | agaran: have you found a solution to your problem? |
| 13:42.26 | agaran | ootput: yes, wildcard in macaddr |
| 13:42.46 | lolufail | I just extended a lvm2 volume to 26tb, then found out that the partition within (ext3) cannot exceed the 16tb limit -.- can I safely reduce the logical volume's size? OR: can xfs grow to the left? |
| 13:43.11 | agaran | ootput: but now i probably will try to find why that damned thing started to change addr each time, it wasnt doing that with oldbios, i still can swap chips so no problem to revert |
| 13:43.28 | ootput | agaran: yes, that was similar to my suggestion |
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| 13:43.40 | agaran | ootput: indeed |
| 13:43.46 | stew | this is expected with forcedeth |
| 13:43.48 | ootput | agaran: you could just specify SUBSYSTEM DRIVERS and NAME |
| 13:44.13 | agaran | stew: so its b0rken, but on previous bios (2 numbers less) it was behaving better.. |
| 13:44.23 | ootput | having wildcard for MAC would be redundant |
| 13:44.58 | agaran | at first i need to calm down.. before i replace udev with plain dev or something.. |
| 13:45.50 | stew | agaran: i believe it should be an option in your bios now |
| 13:46.08 | stew | agaran: you should be able to disable the mac randomization |
| 13:46.21 | stew | agaran: it might be called anonymizer or something |
| 13:46.38 | ootput | agaran: i remember reading about a few similar symptoms on the mailing list. IIRC they were a direct result of hibernate/suspend, or Windows modifying mac address upon exit |
| 13:46.47 | agaran | stew: somebody was insane to 'invent' that.. or maybe i am just odd |
| 13:47.05 | ootput | but if this is due to updated bios, it'd be an isolated incident |
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| 13:47.38 | agaran | ootput: it is, just before reboot i removed original bios chip, put another spare, reflashed, and rebooted linux |
| 13:47.41 | stew | ootput: no, the nforce firmware changes the mac address at every boot as a feature, its not one time |
| 13:47.46 | agaran | ootput: am sure its after update |
| 13:48.06 | agaran | but somebody was insane to 'invent' that 'feature' |
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| 13:48.30 | ootput | maybe just some repeat-offender in the Internet system |
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| 13:52.41 | Danielss89 | how do i set the standard text editor? Right now when i do crontab -e it opens in something called "joe's own editor" |
| 13:53.11 | petemc | update-alternatives --config editor |
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| 13:53.19 | stew | Danielss89: set the EDITOR environment variable to change it for just one user or run "update-alternatives --config editor" to change it systemwide |
| 13:53.40 | Danielss89 | thx |
| 13:54.27 | Danielss89 | is there an editor which i can use ctrl+c for copy when using putty SSH from windows to the server? |
| 13:54.51 | petemc | Danielss89: putty automatically puts stuff in the buffer |
| 13:55.03 | petemc | so you would need to tell putty not to do that before thinking about the editor |
| 13:55.25 | Danielss89 | ok.. |
| 13:55.40 | Danielss89 | i'll look into it.. thx |
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| 13:57.39 | Solver | ftp.us.debian.org is reporting "GPG key not available" |
| 13:57.47 | Solver | NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
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| 13:59.03 | stew | Solver: is the debian-archive-keyring package installed? |
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| 13:59.17 | Solver | ah perhaps not. just odd that I didn't see that before |
| 13:59.18 | Solver | thanks |
| 13:59.39 | stew | Solver: we switched keys somewhat recently |
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| 13:59.44 | Solver | ah cool |
| 13:59.55 | Solver | I didn't want to juse force through since I was getting a warning :) |
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| 14:05.56 | Heavy-D | hey guys, I upgraded some packages yesterday (php mostly) and now some of my php-driven pages are giving error messages. I want to revert to the last version I was using. Can this be done? and if so, how? thanks in advance |
| 14:07.58 | nkuttler | Heavy-D: downgrade is not supported. stable? what errors? |
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| 14:10.26 | Heavy-D | nkuttler: using PHP-syslog-ng and when I upgraded PHP yesterday i'm now getting "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 16 bytes) in /var/www/php-syslog-ng/html/includes/common_funcs.php on line 332" |
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| 14:10.58 | Heavy-D | Now they say it's because the memory for PHP is set to something lower than 128MB and it was at the start but I changed it back now and im' still getting the error. Strange |
| 14:11.05 | crunchy1 | I want to put a bit of x on a remote server. whats the most lightweight way of doing this |
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| 14:12.20 | crunchy1 | just enough for x11 forwarding a few basic apps |
| 14:12.32 | abrotman | install the application ? |
| 14:12.51 | aprendiz001 | anyone knows how to create a mirror of debian security? |
| 14:13.16 | stew | aprendiz001: with the apt-mirror package |
| 14:13.49 | aprendiz001 | I was using the official script |
| 14:13.57 | crunchy1 | thanks abrotman |
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| 14:14.43 | Smerdyakov | When I run "shutdown -r now" over ssh, where can I see the log of the actions that are occurring to finish shutdown? |
| 14:14.51 | aprendiz001 | thanks stew |
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| 14:15.22 | stew | aprendiz001: out of curiosity, what do you want a security mirror for? |
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| 14:16.56 | aprendiz001 | stew, I have several servers in my company, I don't want to get all the bandwith from debina |
| 14:16.58 | aprendiz001 | debian |
| 14:18.04 | Smerdyakov | Does anyone have any advice for debugging cases where "shutdown -r now" doesn't seem to be doing anything over SSH? |
| 14:18.09 | stew | aprendiz001: something like apt-proxy or apt-cacher or approx might be more appropriate |
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| 14:18.58 | aprendiz001 | why? |
| 14:19.32 | aprendiz001 | my problem is that the official script not support debian security |
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| 14:20.02 | stew | aprendiz001: becuase by mirroring all of security, you'll be downloading lots of packages you don't need. If your goal is to minimize how much you download from debian, you'll not be doing that very well |
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| 14:20.51 | stew | aprendiz001: for instance, how many of your servers are running cscope, pidgin, nsd, xulrunner, xpdf, etc (these are among the most recent packages to hit security.d.o) |
| 14:21.19 | aprendiz001 | ok, what is the best other option? |
| 14:21.30 | abrotman | an apt proxy! |
| 14:21.34 | stew | aprendiz001: I'd guess the script doesn't support debian security becuase for most public mirrors its useless to mirror security, since users shoudln't trust a security mirror unless the put ultimate trust in the mirror owner |
| 14:21.59 | stew | aprendiz001: apt-proxy or apt-cacher or approx which would download the file once, then cache it for future requests |
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| 14:22.44 | aprendiz001 | ok, but, debian security is not from debian? |
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| 14:22.57 | stew | aprendiz001: debian security is from debian, of course |
| 14:23.03 | stew | aprendiz001: i'm not sure what you are asking there |
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| 14:23.44 | aprendiz001 | you said: users shoudln't trust a security mirror unless the put ultimate trust in the mirror owner |
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| 14:24.00 | aprendiz001 | so, I didn't understand |
| 14:24.11 | stew | aprendiz001: right, becuase a malicious security mirror can hold back security updates, leaving your machines vulnerable |
| 14:24.16 | mmu_man | hmm which would you use as MTA for an online server ? |
| 14:24.32 | Dan87 | apprendiz001: users should also care about DNS they use |
| 14:24.36 | mmu_man | postfix, exim ? |
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| 14:25.57 | stew | aprendiz001: so lets say a big remote exploitable bug is discovered in your mta. a malicous or incompetent mirror admin doesn't include the updated pacakge in their security mirror, now your machines stay vulnerable to a remote attack |
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| 14:26.55 | aprendiz001 | stew, yes but the mirror is for my company only |
| 14:27.00 | aidehua | How much would it cost my company to have a helicopter on standby? |
| 14:27.17 | aidehua | (Maybe for use around about the once or twice a week mark?) |
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| 14:27.55 | aprendiz001 | stew, I would be the admin |
| 14:28.00 | stew | aprendiz001: yes |
| 14:28.01 | ulaelable | hey what do you know |
| 14:28.04 | ulaelable | it worked this time |
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| 14:28.10 | aprendiz001 | and the mirror from debian security |
| 14:28.14 | stew | yes |
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| 14:28.26 | aidehua | was thinking around about the 2M$ mark. Anyone here work somewhere with a chopper? |
| 14:28.31 | stew | i understand this. i'm telling you why the script offered to people running public mirrors wouldnt' include security |
| 14:28.35 | mmu_man | hmm seems exim is installed by default anyway |
| 14:28.36 | aprendiz001 | then, I don't understand the problem about the incompetent mirror admin :P |
| 14:28.57 | almost | apprently I have placed by mistake cgi-bin and cgi-data in the my webservers root directory thihis is incorect but i think bpy placing them in /var/www/modified it would be better. also how do i set cgi-data to be owned by my webserver and cgi-bin to be owned by root but readable by webserver |
| 14:29.08 | aprendiz001 | stew, yes, I will study about apt-cacher |
| 14:29.44 | stew | aprendiz001: let's say you decided to use a mirror of security from a local university. then, for some reason, the local university mirror admin doesn't notice that his script updating the security mirror broke, then anyone relying on his mirror will not be getting the security updates they should be getting, due to the admin's incompetence |
| 14:29.51 | aprendiz001 | your first explanation about to download all the repository for nothing was good |
| 14:29.55 | mmu_man | question is how do I configure it now... |
| 14:30.04 | stew | aprendiz001: how many of your severs are running pidgin? |
| 14:30.20 | stew | aprendiz001: how many of your servers have X windows installed? |
| 14:30.22 | fishsponge_ | hey people - does anyone here, running debian on dell hardware, have email alerts from OpenManage? if so, how did you do it?? |
| 14:30.41 | stew | aprendiz001: oh, nevermind, i misread what you wrote |
| 14:30.42 | crunchy1 | where can I find an explanation of the different ways linux stored email? |
| 14:30.50 | mmu_man | stew: if it has X that's not a server then :p |
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| 14:31.02 | stew | mmu_man: i don't follow |
| 14:31.15 | aprendiz001 | yes, that is a good point for avoiding mirror and choosing cache, you are right |
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| 14:31.25 | darkham | amarok2.1beta2 are in some debian repository? |
| 14:31.27 | mmu_man | putting X on a server is regarded as an heresy by many ;) |
| 14:31.40 | abrotman | this is going downhill ... |
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| 14:31.54 | aprendiz001 | althougt the point of the bad admin I don't share with you, the problem could be in the main branch with the same probme |
| 14:32.02 | stew | fishsponge_: i have nagios scripts that do it |
| 14:32.36 | gustav_o_ | On a dual xeon system, what kernel should i run? running lenny now with an old kernel uname -m says it's x86_64 |
| 14:32.43 | aprendiz001 | stew, thanks for the advice |
| 14:33.01 | {cyborg} | gustav_o_: you shoud run amd64 architecture |
| 14:33.02 | fishsponge_ | stew, i do have a generic Nagios IPMI script, but i dont' know how good it is... it's certainly not Dell's own one |
| 14:33.14 | gustav_o_ | {cyborg}: thanks |
| 14:33.26 | fishsponge_ | stew, i also have Nagios 2.9, and Dell's scripts seem to require 2.10 or later... |
| 14:33.31 | mmu_man | dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? |
| 14:33.31 | fishsponge_ | stew, what do yours do though? |
| 14:34.13 | fishsponge_ | stew, i do have "Alert Management" in openmanage's web interface, but can only specify a command to run, not an email address to send an alert to |
| 14:34.21 | almost | <erUSUL> i have cgi-bin and cgi-data in www/var they have to be moved to /var/www/modified cgi-data has to be owned by webserver(www-data) cgi-bin owned by root but readable webserver www-data |
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| 14:43.15 | Shadur | arghs at syslog-ng. For some reason when I'm trying to send syslog data to a remote host, it's always sent with the source IP address of the interface that the default gateway is on... Even if that's not the source address for the route it needs to take. |
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| 14:44.10 | IamSOG | um.. can someone post a working srouces.list ? |
| 14:44.18 | IamSOG | sources.list* |
| 14:44.22 | IamSOG | !sources.list |
| 14:44.23 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 14:44.23 | fishsponge_ | stew, you still there? if so, pls see msgs above... |
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| 14:45.09 | IamSOG | oh, I forgoto to do aptitude update... |
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| 14:45.42 | crunchy1 | What is the alternative to using /var/mail |
| 14:46.08 | orion_x11 | how do I now which version I am using (lenny or testing?) I knew a command line for that, but I forgot |
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| 14:46.23 | ranix | is it possible to copy /dev/sdc1 to a file in /tmp/, but to compress the output? |
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| 14:46.35 | streuner | orion_x11: /msg dpkg version |
| 14:46.58 | rorri | cat /dev/sdc1 | gzip > /tmp/sdc1.img.gz etc.. |
| 14:47.42 | ranix | hm thanks I'll give it a shot |
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| 14:50.16 | MJS | hey |
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| 14:50.27 | EMPER0R | hi i have in the same repository i386 and amd64 packages.. how can i select 64bit if my sources.list have i386 ? |
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| 14:50.49 | EMPER0R | where i set the packages arch? |
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| 14:51.11 | MJS | When I want to install Debian from USB Stick on a Lenovo Ideapad (netbook), the installer complains about a missing CD device |
| 14:51.26 | MJS | as I do not have one, I do not know what to do now :( |
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| 14:55.28 | stew | fishsponge_: i have in crontab: "0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/local/sbin/MegaCli64 -AdpEventLog -GetSinceReboot -f /var/run/raidstatus -aALL 2>&1 > /dev/null" |
| 14:55.53 | stew | fishsponge_: then I wrote a custom nagios script that checks: "err=`echo $status | grep -ciE DEGRADED\|OFFLINE\|FAILED\|UNCONFIGURED\|Deleted\|bad" |
| 14:57.06 | stew | MJS: how did you create the usb installer? |
| 14:57.17 | crunchy1 | how do I migrate my email in /var/mail to mailbox? |
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| 14:57.44 | stew | crunchy1: what do you mean by "mailbox"? |
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| 14:58.33 | MJS | by copying the data from the CD to the USB Stick, renaming isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg |
| 14:58.44 | MJS | and then installing syslinux on the stick, stew |
| 14:58.51 | stew | MJS: see /msg dpkg usb-install |
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| 14:59.05 | MJS | this method always worked |
| 14:59.11 | stew | ok |
| 15:00.04 | crunchy1 | stew, i'm currently storing all user email in a single file in /var/mail. Ive been advised to use a file per mail format for scalability and reliability. |
| 15:00.22 | crunchy1 | stew, the file per mail format is known as maildir I think |
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| 15:00.50 | stew | !info mb2md |
| 15:00.57 | stew | judd: info mb2md |
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| 15:00.58 | judd | stew: mb2md (net): is optional; Version: 3.20-4; Size: 23.4k; Installed: 112k -- Converting Mbox mailboxes to Maildir format |
| 15:01.09 | ranix | that's pretty cool |
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| 15:01.23 | ranix | what a useful little program |
| 15:01.25 | Solver | dovecot has a module to do that |
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| 15:01.36 | Solver | as a user logs in it converts them |
| 15:01.42 | dpkg | mb2md: (Converting Mbox mailboxes to Maildir format), section mail, is optional. Version: 3.20-4 (sid), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 15:01.57 | Solver | still useful though |
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| 15:02.17 | Solver | it's even in etch |
| 15:03.12 | crunchy1 | so.....just run that |
| 15:03.18 | bitshuffler | Hello. I have a little question regarding .deb packaging. With RPMs there's a %files section where one simply lists the files one wants to include. How does this work with .debs? (Currently my stuff is all inside a virtual tree bellow debian/package-name but doesn't get included for some reason) |
| 15:03.23 | stew | crunchy1: read the documentation first |
| 15:03.25 | crunchy1 | and bob will be my ainties live in lover? |
| 15:03.41 | Solver | and backup your mail before converting it for $DEITY sake |
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| 15:04.36 | stew | bitshuffler: anything in debian/pacakge-name should be included, perhaps depending on the dh compatibility level you are using |
| 15:04.45 | fishsponge_ | stew, ah... i don't have the MegaCli64 command (perhaps cos i'm on a 32 bit system?), so that's not gonna work too well for me at the moment... |
| 15:05.02 | stew | fishsponge_: yes, it appears i'm not using openmanage for this at all |
| 15:05.14 | fishsponge_ | stew, and the trouble is, that's great for failed disks (the most common problem), but not good for other hardware issues... |
| 15:05.19 | fishsponge_ | anyway, i'll take it up with dell, i think |
| 15:05.53 | stew | fishsponge_: i did manage ot get openmanage installed, but it was a pain. I'm not the site admin for this box, I'm not sure what he ended up setting up with openmanage once I get it installed for him |
| 15:05.57 | stew | but I remember it being a mess |
| 15:06.07 | stew | (mostly becuase this is a 64 bit system) |
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| 15:06.49 | bitshuffler | stew: Thanks. Where is that level defined? (All I can find is a commented out "export DH_COMPAT=4" in the rules file) |
| 15:07.09 | stew | bitshuffler: do you have a debian/compat file? |
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| 15:07.35 | bitshuffler | stew: no (albeit I don't have one in others either where it apparently works) |
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| 15:07.58 | stew | bitshuffler: you should have one |
| 15:08.50 | stew | bitshuffler: see the "Debhelper compatibility levels" in the debhelper(7) manpage |
| 15:09.08 | stew | bitshuffler: do you have a debian/tmp directory that also has a set of files? |
| 15:09.17 | bitshuffler | stew: problem is that I don't have any debian available ;D |
| 15:09.22 | stew | bitshuffler: perhaps its using this directory instead because of an older compatibility |
| 15:09.31 | stew | bitshuffler: what? |
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| 15:09.44 | stew | bitshuffler: are you using debhlper? |
| 15:10.02 | bitshuffler | stew: Yes, but not on native debian but on the suse build service. |
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| 15:10.31 | bitshuffler | stew: Anyways, I try to find out what should go into the compat file and see if that fixes it. |
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| 15:11.55 | stew | bitshuffler: i told you where to find out |
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| 15:12.39 | bitshuffler | stew: Yup. If it has to be the same compat level as the required debhelper version I guess I'm on 5 then. |
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| 15:18.59 | linuxopjemac | try to configure gdictthat-0.0.4 |
| 15:19.05 | linuxopjemac | get this error |
| 15:19.09 | linuxopjemac | checking for db_env_create in -ldb-4.7... no |
| 15:19.16 | linuxopjemac | I use Lenny on a ppc |
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| 15:19.19 | linuxopjemac | any idea ? |
| 15:19.43 | linuxopjemac | sorry gdictthai-0.0.4 |
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| 15:22.46 | \amethyst | linuxopjemac: looks like it needs db 4.7, which isn't in lenny |
| 15:24.08 | \amethyst | linuxopjemac: you'll need to backport libdb from testing or unstable, or fix it up to work with older versions |
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| 15:24.45 | haygus | hi |
| 15:25.10 | haygus | (try for registration test) |
| 15:25.27 | \amethyst | linuxopjemac: it's specifically looking for db-4.7 in configure.in , so you could try changing that to db-4.5, rerunning autoconf, and trying to configure it again |
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| 15:26.31 | \amethyst | linuxopjemac: there might be some reason it depends on db-4.7, so the build might fail or the program might crash |
| 15:27.11 | \amethyst | linuxopjemac: if that's the case, backporting db or running it in a sid or squeeze chroot might be your only option |
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| 15:34.10 | ranix | if I simply burn a bootable iso image, does the CD itself become bootable? |
| 15:34.24 | ranix | or do I need to specify some special option to cdrecord, or use a different program? |
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| 15:34.38 | petemc | ranix: provided the iso was bootable |
| 15:34.40 | ranix | I burned a Lenny install last week that turned out to be a coaster |
| 15:34.49 | ranix | I'll give it another shot I guess, petemc |
| 15:35.00 | petemc | lenny cd certainly should be |
| 15:38.45 | xorl | Ok, so I have the package selection from another machine of mine, how can I properly generate a diff against the other machine to see what is and what isn't installed |
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| 15:39.41 | gigo | has anyone used Brasero to burn ISO image onto a 4.7 GB DVD+R? The "burn" button is grayed out for me. I am unable to burn. |
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| 15:40.10 | \amethyst | xorl: diff -u other-machine-package-list <(dpkg --get-selections) where the command is the same one you ran on the other machine |
| 15:40.19 | \amethyst | xorl: the command inside the <( ) that is |
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| 15:41.39 | xorl | \amethyst: ah, cool, forgot about -u heh |
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| 15:42.20 | \amethyst | xorl: perhaps -U0 to show only the differences |
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| 15:43.21 | xorl | hmmm |
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| 15:43.40 | xorl | doesn't diff properly |
| 15:44.14 | gigo | can anyone help me with my brasero problem? |
| 15:44.32 | xorl | What's up with it? |
| 15:44.33 | \amethyst | xorl: different output formats or different orders? |
| 15:44.41 | xorl | \amethyst: Order issues |
| 15:44.45 | \amethyst | xorl: sort them both :) |
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| 15:45.17 | \amethyst | xorl: diff -u <(sort other-list) <(show-my-packages | sort) |
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| 15:45.31 | xorl | \amethyst: yeah was going to try that |
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| 15:45.58 | mazzanet | eep |
| 15:46.03 | mazzanet | i think i just broke kde in a big way |
| 15:46.18 | mazzanet | i have a mix of 3.5 and 4.2 |
| 15:46.27 | mazzanet | from my last apt upgrade |
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| 15:48.59 | xorl | mazzanet: drop to terminal and apt-get remove kde(version) |
| 15:49.05 | xorl | should be able to clean out the old stuff |
| 15:49.22 | bitshuffler | stew: jfyi, bumping compat level to 6 apparently fixed it. Thanks a lot for your help :) |
| 15:49.56 | gigo | can someone please share the link where I can see what versions of brasero is present in stable, testing and sid? |
| 15:50.43 | stew | gigo: http://packages.debian.org/brasero |
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| 15:52.34 | gigo | I am a little confused about the versions. http://projects.gnome.org/brasero/ says that the latest version is 2.26.0 but Debian shows it as 0.8.0. Why such a difference? |
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| 15:54.18 | stew | gigo: they changed version numbering |
| 15:54.33 | stew | gigo: look at the version numbers in http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/brasero/branches/gnome-2-26/NEWS?view=markup |
| 15:54.35 | gigo | why? is the debian group doing its own development in brasero? |
| 15:54.41 | stew | gigo: no |
| 15:54.54 | stew | gigo: the next version debian uploads will probably be 2.26.something |
| 15:55.02 | gigo | ok |
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| 15:55.32 | stew | gigo: the brasero developers released 0.9.0 then 0.9.1 then 2.25.92 |
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| 15:55.41 | gigo | yeah, I understand now. thanks. |
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| 15:56.40 | gigo | I sent a mail to 497226@bugs.debian.org but my mail still does not appear at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497226 ? |
| 15:56.45 | gigo | are the mails moderated? |
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| 15:57.26 | squark | hi |
| 15:57.38 | squark | does anyone have any experience with wake on lan? |
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| 15:58.21 | OpenTokix | squark: some |
| 15:58.28 | OpenTokix | squark: What are you wondering? |
| 15:58.33 | squark | maybe you could help me |
| 15:58.41 | squark | I cannot completely make it work |
| 15:58.51 | squark | it works fine when I shutdown computer with windows |
| 15:58.58 | squark | not with ubuntu 9.04 |
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| 15:59.17 | squark | looks like something is turning wol down on ethernet card while shutting down |
| 15:59.24 | squark | *turning off |
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| 16:00.22 | squark | I have installed wakeonlan, changed /etc/init.d/halt so it shouldn't bring down eth0 |
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| 16:00.53 | squark | ethtool always shows that wol in enabled |
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| 16:01.12 | OpenTokix | squark: wol dont bother about the OS |
| 16:01.18 | OpenTokix | squark: its a bios-thing |
| 16:01.48 | squark | OS can cut off power from ethernet card while shutting down |
| 16:01.48 | OpenTokix | squark: strange |
| 16:01.53 | OpenTokix | ok |
| 16:01.55 | squark | it's working from Windows flawlessly |
| 16:02.00 | gigo | I sent a mail to 497226@bugs.debian.org but my mail still does not appear at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497226 ? |
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| 16:03.35 | squark | I don't know nothing about the S power states at all |
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| 16:21.10 | ethanw | anyone know how to get alsa to leave pcspkr alone and start using the actual soundcard instead? |
| 16:22.05 | psylance | rmmod/insmod it |
| 16:22.12 | psylance | i forgot how to do it |
| 16:22.15 | ethanw | thanks. thought it was something like that |
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| 16:22.34 | psylance | it's annoying when they starts beeping |
| 16:22.37 | psylance | in vmware |
| 16:22.53 | ethanw | in vmware there's a setting for it |
| 16:22.56 | ethanw | it drives me nuts |
| 16:23.39 | sneezewort | Is there an web-app in Debian that any user in the world could test the network speed to my server with? |
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| 16:25.14 | magyar_ | hi, is there a way to "AUTO" mount a usb drive in lenny? |
| 16:26.09 | valdyn | magyar_: a few ways, if you use gnome or kde, it should work by default |
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| 16:28.41 | magyar_ | valdyn, i use a server, no X |
| 16:29.21 | psylance | magyar_, http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Automounting_card_readers_and_USB_keys_using_autofs |
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| 16:29.32 | JordiGH | Is there something like body...? Between head and tail? Trying to grep through a 2-gig Apache log. |
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| 16:31.06 | spal | JordiGH, we can pipe the output of tail into head to get "body" |
| 16:31.11 | dkr | JordiGH: head -10000|tail -1000 |
| 16:31.15 | nkuttler | JordiGH: split it? |
| 16:31.29 | psylance | what are u looking for? |
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| 16:32.26 | {g} | Im trying to redirect packets from IP1 to IP2: "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d IP1 -j DNAT --to-destination IP2". Any idea what im doing wrong? The traffic to IP1 gets intercepted, but it never arrives at IP2. |
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| 16:32.45 | JordiGH | Piping head into tail is too slow. The thing I'm looking for is probably within the middle. It's an Apache log, and I can interpolate an approximate location in the log where it should happen because I have a time, and I can easily see the first and last timestamps in the file. |
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| 16:33.19 | JordiGH | Naturally I don't want to slow down the web server for this. |
| 16:34.02 | JordiGH | Is it even possible to grep to the middle of a huge file, or is that a limitation of the underlying filesystem? |
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| 16:35.08 | nkuttler | thinks grepping would be fininshed by now |
| 16:35.31 | spal | would grepping in the middle work significantly faster? It has to parse through the \n's in the file any way to know what is the middle, isn't it? |
| 16:35.36 | JordiGH | nkuttler: It wasn't finished in ten seconds, and it was taking up valuable web server resources. |
| 16:35.44 | nkuttler | JordiGH: split |
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| 16:42.12 | JordiGH | nkuttler: disk usage is high. |
| 16:42.34 | leOn | hello fellas ... From what i understand, in Lenny, the multipath-tools-boot package is to be installed only if the host is booting from the SAN. Happens that i have this legacy Etch Xen host, and apparently the multipath-tools-boot init script is part of the multipath-tools and is not in a separate package. Should i remove the multipath-tools-boot from the runlevels or should i keep it? |
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| 16:44.31 | themill | JordiGH: you can get awk/sed/perl to advance a certain number of lines into the file before they start trying to actually process it. |
| 16:45.05 | nkuttler | or nice grep or scp the log |
| 16:45.26 | dkr | JordiGH: ionice |
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| 16:46.33 | Halleck | anyone know if there's a way to set up a utf-8 tty on sarge or lenny? |
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| 16:47.28 | nkuttler | Halleck: apt-cache search terminal unicode |
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| 16:48.36 | JordiGH | themill: Ah, I'll try that. |
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| 16:48.57 | x4d | Are there any new books for sale about debian lenny that you would recommend? |
| 16:49.11 | creaux | which mouse is the best for linux? |
| 16:49.48 | azeem | creaux: most regular mice work fine |
| 16:49.54 | jerome | hi there, I have a few debian sid x86 on a lan with a slow adsl line. I'm looking for an advice about apt proxy/cache. I'd like that after my first box dist-upgraded, it could serve .deb to the others, actng as a cache. There are tons of these caches. Wousd you recommend one ? |
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| 16:51.12 | creaux | azeem: well, I don't think the mousewheel serves in general as a good middle button, so I am looking for a mouse with alternative buttons, e.g. thumb button |
| 16:51.37 | azeem | creaux: so get one |
| 16:51.49 | ethanw | creaux: pick anything you like. it will work |
| 16:51.50 | azeem | and maybe check beforehand whether it is supported |
| 16:52.07 | ethanw | creaux: 99% do anyway |
| 16:53.01 | creaux | ... just would be good if somebody had a recommendation |
| 16:53.03 | azeem | maybe not all features are supported though; e.g. you can tilt the mouse wheel on my Logitech left/right for horizontal scrolling/tabbing, but that is not supported by X |
| 16:53.15 | azeem | creaux: sorry, we don't |
| 16:53.38 | spal | idA linux-headers-2.6.26-1-common - Common header files for Linux 2.6.26-1 |
| 16:53.47 | spal | what does 'd' in idA mean? |
| 16:53.59 | ethanw | azeem: surely you could bind it as a standard keypress |
| 16:54.03 | creaux | azeem: I have tried xmodmap and it can configere some mouse signals |
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| 16:54.31 | ethanw | creaux: azeem: yes thats what i meant |
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| 16:55.19 | azeem | ethanw: depends on your definition of "supported" I guess |
| 16:55.27 | azeem | I didn't bother once xev didn't output anything |
| 16:56.10 | ethanw | azeem: im bloody determined, so i guess my definition of "supported" is if its possible (without writing software) its supported |
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| 16:56.53 | azeem | yes, but your own definition might not be very interesting to the users of a support channel |
| 16:56.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | creaux, you can also permanently do it in xorg.conf |
| 16:57.24 | creaux | CutMeOwnThroat: ok |
| 16:57.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | azeem, oh, is there a support channel around anywhere? |
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| 16:57.56 | azeem | CutMeOwnThroat: you're in one |
| 16:58.03 | hark | spal: will be removed, not purged |
| 16:58.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, ChanServ greets *me* with "this is a discussion channel, ask and we'll do our best" or somesuch |
| 16:58.31 | gigo | hark, will be removed when? |
| 16:58.42 | azeem | CutMeOwnThroat: so ignore ChanServ |
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| 16:59.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | azeem, I *like* chanserv... perhaps I'll ignore you instead :) |
| 16:59.19 | azeem | whatever |
| 16:59.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | creaux, as long as linux sees the mouse button, you can reconfigure it to what you want... so really pretty much anything should work |
| 16:59.57 | gigo | hark, i have had these problems of dangling d too after uninstalling some package. the automatically installed package didn't get removed but had a 'idA' in its status. |
| 17:00.08 | gigo | when does the package with 'idA' gets removed? |
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| 17:00.52 | creaux | CutMeOwnThroat: then it's about to decide which model |
| 17:00.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | azeem, I wouldn't like hanging around in a support channel, but I would in a discussion channel and I don't mind helping people if I can either... |
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| 17:01.21 | spal | gigo, yes similar for me. I purged linux-headers-2.6.26-2-amd64 but linux-headers-2.6.26-2-common did not get removed. instead its status became 'idA'. |
| 17:01.59 | hark | gigo: it shouldn't be d after uninstalling the package, it's like you select '-' on a package in aptitude and it's marked to be deleted -> d |
| 17:02.41 | fdsafdsa | so i pulled a debian installation from one system and put it in a different box. everything is working great except the network card. i'm assuming drivers are being loaded for the original card so the new card is unable to be used to access the internet. a little help? |
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| 17:02.57 | fdsafdsa | debian installation = hdd |
| 17:03.11 | themill | JordiGH: btw not sure what your awk-fu is like, byt something like this should search for "regex" between lines 100 and 200: awk 'NR>100 && /regex/ {print}: NR>200 {exit}' access.log |
| 17:03.21 | themill | JordiGH: (edit to taste and accuracy :) |
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| 17:04.02 | JordiGH | themill: Calculating line numbers is the same as going through all lines. I'm going to go with Perl's seek. |
| 17:04.03 | hark | JordiGH: also sed '100,200!d' foo.log | grep |
| 17:04.05 | ethanw | fdsafdsa: why not just reinstall? |
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| 17:04.29 | fdsafdsa | ethanw: i |
| 17:04.35 | spal | themill, when you use awk/sed/perl to skip say 100 lines, is it in anyway better in efficiency than using say, tail -n +100 | head -200 ? |
| 17:04.38 | fdsafdsa | ethanw: i'd like to avoid it if it's a simple fix |
| 17:04.40 | themill | JordiGH: ahh, fair enough. I figured you had a reasonable idea of how many lines you had so that you could narrow it down |
| 17:05.00 | ethanw | fdsafdsa: if support is missing from the kernel its not an easy fix |
| 17:05.06 | JordiGH | It's 5 gigs of log. :D |
| 17:05.11 | ethanw | fdsafdsa: whats the card? |
| 17:05.14 | themill | spal: probably, when you're dealing with multi-GB log files, yes. |
| 17:05.23 | JordiGH | wonders if we should tweak logrotate... |
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| 17:05.41 | fdsafdsa | ethanw: Bridgecom Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet AdapterPCI |
| 17:05.46 | fdsafdsa | ^^that's what everest says |
| 17:05.50 | themill | JordiGH: I'm presuming that's a rhetorical question. |
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| 17:06.00 | leOn | from what i understand, in Lenny, the multipath-tools-boot package is to be installed only if the host is booting from the SAN. Happens that i have this legacy Etch Xen host, and apparently the multipath-tools-boot init script is part of the multipath-tools and is not in a separate package. Should i remove the multipath-tools-boot from the runlevels or should i keep it? |
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| 17:06.24 | JordiGH | themill: Eh, later. I'm not digging for anything actually important in the log; it's just that this has become an interesting challenge. |
| 17:06.42 | ethanw | fdsafdsa: please run a modprobe -l and pastebin it |
| 17:06.43 | JordiGH | "Grep the 5-gig log without slowing down the only webserver your crappy website is using." |
| 17:06.45 | Halleck | nkuttler, thanks. I have some unicode xterms installed... I was wondering if I could get geTTY or a geTTY replacement to work in unicode |
| 17:06.58 | JordiGH | Seeking doesn't incur overhead, right? |
| 17:07.19 | fdsafdsa | i'll have to reboot. (dualboot |
| 17:07.23 | ethanw | ok |
| 17:07.24 | Halleck | Just for fun :P |
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| 17:07.34 | fdsafdsa | brb |
| 17:07.37 | themill | JordiGH: you clearly have too much time on your hands! |
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| 17:08.21 | nkuttler | JordiGH: i guess i'd do something like foreach line perl |
| 17:08.41 | Getty | Halleck: i dont work with unicode, still latin1 |
| 17:08.43 | Getty | ;) |
| 17:08.50 | gigo | update-alternatives --config gcc doesn't work? |
| 17:09.02 | gigo | how can I see the list of all software available for configuration in update-alternatives? |
| 17:09.07 | JordiGH | nkuttler: With 5 billion lines? |
| 17:09.10 | JordiGH | (approximately) |
| 17:09.29 | Halleck | Getty, thanks! so ncurses support is just going to be poor then? |
| 17:09.38 | nkuttler | why not? if you're worried about resources you can insert sleeps or whatever |
| 17:09.49 | JordiGH | nkuttler: I'd also like an answer quickly... |
| 17:10.00 | JordiGH | is really not digging nkuttler's answers. Not geeky enough. |
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| 17:10.34 | nkuttler | perl was invented to parse logfiles.... good luck finding something geekier |
| 17:10.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, copy it to a local machine? :) |
| 17:10.44 | JordiGH | Yay, sftp 5 gigs. |
| 17:10.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | (gzip/bzip2 it 1st!) |
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| 17:10.53 | nkuttler | of course you could print the logs and read them... |
| 17:10.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | should go down into XXX MB region |
| 17:11.09 | JordiGH | wonders if there's enough paper in a library to print these logs. |
| 17:11.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, depends on your fontsize :-P |
| 17:11.24 | JordiGH | CutMeOwnThroat: Ever timed how long it takes to gzip 5 gigs of text? |
| 17:11.26 | gigo | update-alternatives --config gcc doesn't work? |
| 17:12.01 | themill | gigo: /msg dpkg gcc |
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| 17:12.30 | gigo | how can I see the list of all software available for configuration in update-alternatives? |
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| 17:13.03 | Halleck | performs a bash MEGA fail! |
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| 17:13.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, no, always did it without timing |
| 17:13.15 | hark | gigo: ls /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ |
| 17:13.36 | Halleck | source .bash_history is not the proper way to refresh the history queue @_@ |
| 17:13.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | JordiGH, anyway, wouldn't help you as it depends on the machine and load :) |
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| 17:13.50 | nkuttler | JordiGH: try ##linux |
| 17:13.54 | azaghal | Hello. Could someone recommend me an alternative to apt-cacher that can deal with volatile repo as well? |
| 17:14.15 | JordiGH | CutMeOwnThroat: Apache seems to take up a consistent 60% of the CPU on this machine. |
| 17:14.27 | JordiGH | nkuttler: This has little to do with my kernel, except perhaps for ext3. |
| 17:14.55 | nkuttler | i thought ##linux is the general linux support channel |
| 17:15.07 | nkuttler | linux as in _not_ GNU/Linux |
| 17:15.24 | azeem | what else is there besides GNU/Linux? |
| 17:15.31 | JordiGH | Right, so I'm not having problems with Linux, but with GNU stuff (head and tail). |
| 17:15.36 | nkuttler | linux the os vs linux the kernel |
| 17:15.40 | JordiGH | azeem: GNU/kFreeBSD? |
| 17:15.56 | JordiGH | nkuttler: You're in the wrong channel to suggest that Linux is an OS. ;-) |
| 17:15.58 | azeem | JordiGH: eh, relevant for ##linux |
| 17:16.09 | zepho | hi, is there a way to see who's downloading from my apache in real time, or do i have to use the slow access.logs ? |
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| 17:16.13 | KavanS | or is it relevant for ###linux ? |
| 17:16.19 | JordiGH | azeem: There's Linux without GNU, especially in embedded devices. |
| 17:16.21 | zepho | ie, is there a way from outside of apache? |
| 17:16.28 | KavanS | zepho: tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log |
| 17:16.34 | abrotman | zepho: you could sniff packets .. only do port 80 |
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| 17:16.37 | JordiGH | zepho: There are some log analysing tools... forget what they're named. |
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| 17:16.44 | fdsafdsa | hey. nevermind. turns out i'm just retarded. no network problems at all. thx |
| 17:16.50 | zepho | KavanS: access.log is not realtime |
| 17:16.52 | gigo | JordiGH, webalyzer or something? |
| 17:16.52 | Zero_Dogg | Is there any FAQ/howto about getting fonts to look better on LCDs? I recently moved my laptop from ubuntu to debian and the fonts are rendered a lot uglier |
| 17:16.59 | zepho | abrotman: i'll try that |
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| 17:17.01 | ethanw | fdsafdsa: cool. least its working :) |
| 17:17.02 | Getty | Halleck: was a joke :) actually getty shouldnt care much about it, beside the login/password itself, yes there you shouldnt have unicode |
| 17:17.10 | fdsafdsa | yay. later |
| 17:17.13 | fdsafdsa | thx |
| 17:17.24 | gigo | zepho, JordiGH : webalizer, it is. |
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| 17:17.41 | JordiGH | gigo: Could be. I'm still grepping the old-fashioned barbaric way. |
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| 17:18.37 | zepho | gigo isn't webalizer parsing the access logs ? |
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| 17:19.07 | spal | zepho, yes and it shows some graphs. |
| 17:19.31 | gigo | zepho, yes |
| 17:20.01 | zepho | i have awstats running, but i need realtime. looking into some sniffers right now |
| 17:20.36 | themill | tail -f access.log? |
| 17:21.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, but "linux as in _not_ GNU/Linux" is just another way of saying "just the kernel" |
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| 17:21.50 | nkuttler | CutMeOwnThroat: oh well, do you really want to discuss that? |
| 17:22.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, no, telling you was enough |
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| 17:23.08 | nkuttler | linux as in rejecting the notion GNU/Linux should be used, there made that clear to you |
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| 17:23.45 | lvh | hi |
| 17:23.53 | lvh | I'm using xterm, and tput colors only gives me 8 |
| 17:23.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | Zero_Dogg, mmm, strange, you shouldn't need to do anything |
| 17:23.58 | simonrvn | not in years |
| 17:24.09 | pickcoder | zepho: snag iptraf |
| 17:24.10 | lvh | Any way I can check whyxterm only understands 8 colors? Isn't it supposed to give me 256? |
| 17:24.21 | pickcoder | look at the ip traffic monitor option |
| 17:24.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | zepho, sniffit -i also has an additional option which shows you urls directly |
| 17:24.53 | pickcoder | (it's n-curses based) |
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| 17:27.44 | kantor | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.59 | zepho | thx guys, i'll play around with some of these proggies :) |
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| 17:29.48 | hark | lvh: TERM=xterm-256color tput colors |
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| 17:31.15 | lvh | hark: okay. how do I make that the default |
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| 17:33.05 | hark | lvh: man xterm, look for termName |
| 17:33.19 | Zero_Dogg | CutMeOwnThroat: I found it a bit odd as well, and i've tried most of the things I could think of now (adjusting hinting settins and such), but it's still not looking good, livable, but nothign more |
| 17:34.38 | lvh | hark: Awesome! So it'd work if I just add XTerm*termName: xterm-256color to my ~/.Xresources? |
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| 17:34.51 | hark | Zero_Dogg: check the dpi and maybe dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config |
| 17:35.06 | roumba | hello all |
| 17:35.08 | lvh | hark: That worked! Awesome, thanks. |
| 17:35.11 | lvh | hark++ |
| 17:35.12 | hark | lvh: yes, that'll do it |
| 17:35.14 | Zero_Dogg | hark: double checked them both :/ |
| 17:35.17 | lvh | Does dpkg still keep karma? |
| 17:35.21 | lvh | dpkg: karma hark |
| 17:35.21 | dpkg | hark has karma of 2 |
| 17:35.24 | lvh | Guess so. |
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| 17:35.39 | sussudio | !karma whore |
| 17:35.40 | dpkg | whore has neutral karma |
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| 17:36.11 | midkniht | anyone know much about setting up gnugk and openmcu? |
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| 17:36.24 | midkniht | i keep getting gateway dropped the call |
| 17:36.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | Zero_Dogg, google for anti-alias LCD - there was something I did many years ago... but I think the point with LCD is that you shouldn't do antialiasing because of the layout... uh, not sure... too long back |
| 17:36.26 | jelly | !sing sussudio |
| 17:36.26 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
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| 17:37.12 | Zero_Dogg | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks, I'll give it a go. The odd bit is that ubuntu just worked, though I think they might have some patches applied |
| 17:38.20 | oxi | hi |
| 17:38.41 | roumba | i'm trying to use irssi-otr, on an updated sid, but even if the quickstart sounds really simple, it doesn't work for me |
| 17:38.45 | oxi | how do I analyze the ram consumption of an app? |
| 17:39.05 | Greyscale | weigh its food and excrecia? |
| 17:39.06 | Greyscale | Oh wait |
| 17:39.11 | simonrvn | should be enabling sub-pixel rendering for lcds |
| 17:39.12 | Greyscale | <relurks> |
| 17:39.12 | oxi | I think my vps is running out of ram for tomcat. |
| 17:39.35 | midkniht | why would gnugk not be logging anything? |
| 17:39.49 | oxi | how can I determine the real actual ram limits of my vps and the ram consumption the java jvm? |
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| 17:40.32 | petemc | oxi: free will show available memory, ps can show process memory usage |
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| 17:41.12 | roumba | oxi: i think that 'top' can do it too |
| 17:41.23 | oxi | temc: thanks |
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| 17:42.20 | oxi | roumba: perfect, thanks |
| 17:42.22 | oxi | free |
| 17:42.24 | oxi | Mem: 131072 131072 |
| 17:42.26 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.28 | oxi | Mem: 131072 131072 0 0 0 0 |
| 17:42.32 | oxi | hmmmm :-) |
| 17:42.39 | roumba | :D |
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| 17:42.54 | oxi | I didn't even know it's possible that an app runs fine if it hits the limits |
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| 17:43.26 | oxi | -/+ buffers/cache: 131072 0 |
| 17:43.26 | oxi | Swap: 917504 372 917132 |
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| 17:43.59 | roumba | oxi: your swap saved you |
| 17:44.09 | oxi | does that mean that the server is probably using 917 megs of hd cache because the 128 megs of ram is not enough? |
| 17:44.20 | oxi | roumba: great |
| 17:44.28 | paxcoder | giggles |
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| 17:44.47 | oxi | roumba: heh, I didn't know that the java runtime runs so fine on harddisk cache.... lol |
| 17:44.49 | paxcoder | is there a way to check your user disk quota? |
| 17:45.09 | oxi | paxcoder: no idea |
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| 17:46.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | paxcoder, "quota" ? |
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| 17:46.17 | oxi | hmm, even though I'm doing ./shutdown for tomcat, I still see a java process in ps -al |
| 17:46.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | !next |
| 17:46.18 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 17:46.35 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.40 | oxi | seems it takes a while |
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| 17:47.07 | roumba | maybe the garbage collector, or something like that, took some time to cleanly clean memory |
| 17:47.16 | oxi | yeah, I guess o |
| 17:47.22 | uzytkownik | Hello. Where is the list of packages on CDs/DVDs? I'd need a package for networking (lack of which excludes network installation). |
| 17:47.43 | petemc | !cd contents |
| 17:47.43 | dpkg | To find out what is on what disk, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the disk. |
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| 17:48.09 | roumba | !irc otr |
| 17:48.12 | roumba | damn |
| 17:48.18 | oxi | roumba: no I think the swap didn't save me |
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| 17:48.39 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.46 | oxi | Swap: 917504 560 916944 |
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| 17:48.53 | azeem | oxi: please don't paste in here |
| 17:49.01 | uzytkownik | petemc: Thanks. Have you considered putting link next to "To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD image files unless you know that you need packages on them." on http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/? |
| 17:49.02 | oxi | that would mean it only used 560 kb's |
| 17:49.08 | oxi | azeem: ok, sorr |
| 17:49.13 | azeem | oxi: if that is all that's needed? |
| 17:49.50 | oxi | azeem: well, tomcat hit the ram limit and I guess that it would have gone far beyond |
| 17:50.03 | azeem | oxi: there's no ram limit |
| 17:50.07 | roumba | oxi: yes, the app took all the ram, but didn't use so much swap, if you didn't have the swap, i think the kernel would had been killed the process |
| 17:50.08 | oxi | it's unrealistic that it was only a few kbs over the limit |
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| 17:50.36 | petemc | uzytkownik: im not a debian developer, but that information is available elsewhere, and it strikes me that debian assumes some common sense on a users part |
| 17:50.43 | azeem | unless you configured your vm in a weird way |
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| 17:50.54 | oxi | roumba: so you really think it hit the ram limit and just went a few kbs further in the swap? |
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| 17:51.19 | oxi | azeem: it's a vps with 128 MB ram limit |
| 17:51.42 | azeem | oxi: there's no ram limit *as far as applications are concerned* |
| 17:51.45 | azeem | or the kernel |
| 17:52.02 | azeem | the kernel just swaps out the memory if there is pressure |
| 17:52.14 | themill | The JRE can impose RAM limits on applications that it is running, however. |
| 17:52.20 | oxi | I'm not so sure what happens if it hits the limit though |
| 17:52.22 | oxi | azeem: well, as it's a vps, they must have some hard limit protection |
| 17:52.24 | oxi | azeem: ok |
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| 17:52.30 | oxi | good to know |
| 17:52.54 | oxi | so I guess my server is hitting the limits slightly |
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| 17:53.16 | roumba | oxi: i can't say, it probably depends on the time it was running and what it exactly does, but i tried to install debian sid in a (kvm) vm with only 128MB for the vm, and it didn't work well :D |
| 17:53.24 | oxi | however it was amazing that it could server 200 webapps and databases in a 128mb vps anyway :-D |
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| 17:54.21 | roumba | oxi: i didn't setup swap for this vm |
| 17:54.35 | oxi | okay |
| 17:54.55 | oxi | roumba: so if you didn't set up swap, what happens if you hit the limit? |
| 17:55.03 | oxi | an automatic process kill? |
| 17:55.17 | tom760` | I submitted a bug report for gnome-system-monitor. The response I got back was a request to test with the latest development version. I can't spend much time on this. Can someone tell me the quickest way to load it? |
| 17:55.28 | roumba | oxi: i think the kernel kill the process, you can test to put off the swap with the "swapoff" command (let me check if that's the right command) |
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| 17:55.47 | oxi | roumba: ok cool |
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| 17:56.39 | roumba | oxi: a 'swapoff -a' (for all) should do the trick |
| 17:56.55 | roumba | oxi: but test it only in your vm :D |
| 17:57.16 | oxi | roumba: hmmm, yeah, it could corrupt my databases in the worst case |
| 17:57.42 | oxi | even though they have some kind of protection, but I don't trust that protection in a forced process kill |
| 17:57.52 | oxi | roumba: great, thanks for the info |
| 17:57.55 | njk- | does anyone know where i might be able to download an etch netinst iso? |
| 17:57.57 | roumba | np |
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| 17:58.06 | abrotman | !tell njk- about cd archive |
| 17:58.11 | njk- | all i can find are 5 |
| 17:58.11 | Egoo | I like to clear my swap if firefox had a memory leak again with swapoff and swapon again, does swapoff move the swap memory to my ram or is that data dropped? |
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| 17:58.29 | njk- | ahh, thx |
| 17:58.35 | roumba | Egoo: i can't say, i think it's just dropped |
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| 17:59.30 | Egoo | ok thanks :) |
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| 18:00.03 | cvsup | how make to uninstall ruby |
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| 18:01.19 | jelly | Egoo: nothing can be "just dropped" |
| 18:01.36 | jelly | Egoo: the pages are all read back in. |
| 18:01.54 | roumba | until the ram is full i guess |
| 18:02.01 | jelly | roumba: please stop guessing |
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| 18:02.24 | adama_ | if I get a server with a Xeon proc. I want to use the ia64 installer correct? Will this make it more difficult to find and/or install packages? |
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| 18:02.38 | jelly | roumba: but yeah, when ram+swap is full, Linux kernel takes some pretty extraordinary measures |
| 18:02.42 | jelly | !oom |
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| 18:02.42 | dpkg | what a woc says. Out Of Memory, or http://lwn.net/Articles/104185/ |
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| 18:03.36 | themill | !xeon |
| 18:03.37 | dpkg | The Xeon brand refers to many families of Intel's x86 multiprocessing CPUs â for dual-processor (DP) and multi-processor (MP) configuration on a single motherboard targeted at non-consumer markets of server and workstation computers. For more details see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon, or use amd64 as arch |
| 18:04.10 | roumba | !otr |
| 18:04.10 | dpkg | hmm... otr is Off-the-Record Messaging, a cryptographic protocol providing encryption for IM/IRC conversations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging). OTR support for <irssi> and <xchat> is available with the 'irssi-otr-plugin' and 'xchat-otr' packages respectively. Also ask me about <backports.org>. |
| 18:04.16 | mick_home | hi everyone, i'd like to install debian via the daily images from a usb stick. any way that i can do this from the mini.iso ? do i just need to dd if=mini.iso of=/dev/sdX ? |
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| 18:04.25 | mick_home | or is there something special w/ it |
| 18:04.43 | roumba | damn, !otr didn't work a lot |
| 18:04.49 | azeem | mick_home: why daily images? |
| 18:04.56 | jelly | themill: that factoid could also continue with "except if it's a P3 Xeon, or a P4 Xeon, or any older-than-core2duo Xeon" |
| 18:05.01 | mick_home | azeem: because i want to? |
| 18:05.08 | azeem | hrm |
| 18:05.08 | mick_home | i have always used daily images |
| 18:05.14 | [Mr_X] | Hello. When I try to install tomboy on Debian Lenny, I get this error message: http://pastebin.com/d393d3cehttp://pastebin.com/d393d3ce What can I do to solve the problem? |
| 18:05.31 | mick_home | if there is a bug then i report it |
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| 18:05.58 | mick_home | the mini iso is also small |
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| 18:06.25 | mick_home | my point was, is there something special that needs to be done w/ usb? |
| 18:06.54 | jelly | !tell mick_home -about usb install |
| 18:07.00 | mick_home | thanks |
| 18:07.26 | jelly | there's an overly complicated procedure |
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| 18:08.01 | mick_home | oh i read that |
| 18:08.12 | mick_home | i wanted to know if it is possible w/ a mini.iso |
| 18:08.34 | azeem | what's mini.iso |
| 18:08.48 | jelly | mick_home: is that mini.iso smaller than a netinst? |
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| 18:09.02 | jelly | businesscard thingy? |
| 18:09.03 | mick_home | http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/gtk/ |
| 18:09.08 | adama_ | why use amd64 for Xeon?? |
| 18:09.13 | mick_home | 16MB |
| 18:09.20 | jelly | adama_: because it works? |
| 18:09.23 | KavanS | anyone having issues w/netboot etch/lenny? |
| 18:09.25 | KavanS | or is it just me? |
| 18:09.40 | KavanS | I had a preconfigured seeded pxe install working....over the weekend I come back and now my install does not work |
| 18:09.47 | KavanS | I suppose I need to look into the exact issue... |
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| 18:09.58 | dux0r | how many roads |
| 18:10.08 | mick_home | KavanS: i haven't had issues w/ pxe |
| 18:10.19 | jelly | adama_: "Xeon" usually implies server hardware, and that usually implies you won't be running weird nonfree 32bit software on it. So amd64 is a good choice. |
| 18:10.19 | mick_home | then again, i haven't done one as recent as you |
| 18:10.28 | KavanS | mick_home, ok... |
| 18:10.38 | KavanS | well I'll give her a whirl here and find out if I can track it down |
| 18:10.59 | adama_ | jelly: ok, but isn't ia64 specifically for Intel? |
| 18:11.13 | mick_home | jelly: i saw the install docs and they seem to be overly complicated - i guess i'll give dd a try (just wanted to ask first before wasting too much time) |
| 18:11.13 | jelly | adama_: no. use amd64. |
| 18:11.28 | roumba | adama_: i think ia64 is for itanium (which is from intel) |
| 18:11.42 | abrotman | ia64 is itanium |
| 18:11.43 | spal | In http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/amd64/iso-dvd/, what is the last .iso (debian-update-5.0.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso) useful for? |
| 18:11.46 | mick_home | actually, i have debian installed and i have a borked kernel (it panics when i try to boot up). so i was going to just install over it |
| 18:11.58 | abrotman | spal: that's the update from 5.0.0 to 5.0.1 |
| 18:12.04 | jelly | mick_home: that's no reason to reinstall. |
| 18:12.21 | mick_home | jelly: i have no other spare kernel except the one that doesn't work |
| 18:12.46 | spal | abrotman, so if someone is doing a fresh install of 5.0.1 from the 5.0.1 iso's he doesn't need the last DVD. that is useful for those who have installed 5.0.0 but wants to ugrade to 5.0.1? |
| 18:12.47 | jelly | mick_home: I'd suggest booting a livecd, mounting and chrooting into your system and installing the same or a different kernel image |
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| 18:13.38 | jelly | mick_home: or netbooting instead of livecd, and then mounting your system etc. |
| 18:13.40 | mick_home | jelly: well my dvd drive is borked, so i'd need to go in via a live-usb stick :) |
| 18:13.44 | abrotman | spal: correct (and even then it's really for people who don't have internet on the machine in question) |
| 18:13.56 | jelly | mick_home: so use a liveusb :-) |
| 18:14.02 | mick_home | i don't have a pxe server |
| 18:14.13 | mick_home | in house, but i suppose i can set one up |
| 18:14.16 | spal | yes, I understand everything but the first DVD is useful for people without internet. |
| 18:14.24 | Decepticon | is my hdd gone for good: cant read superblock |
| 18:14.28 | jelly | mick_home: nah, just get a decent liveusb image |
| 18:14.41 | mick_home | jelly: do you have a suggestion? |
| 18:15.05 | spal | say, someone installs software in Etch using the Etch DVDs, how would he upgrade to Lenny? (no internet available). Change the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the new DVDs and aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade? |
| 18:15.15 | jelly | mick_home: dunno, does grml.org have an usb image? |
| 18:15.22 | mick_home | i've stayed away from usb related stuff (just always used floppy/net/cdrom) |
| 18:15.32 | abrotman | spal: you'd get a full set of lenny CDs/DVDs and use them |
| 18:15.45 | mick_home | you said "decent" so i thought you might have an idea :) |
| 18:16.08 | spal | abrotman, yes, but if we want to upgrade install of installing it from scratch is the procedure I have mentioned correct? |
| 18:16.22 | roumba | mick_home: live.debian.net :D |
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| 18:16.49 | abrotman | spal: you don't even really have to change .. you use apt-cdrom to scan the new set .. it will add them to your sources.list |
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| 18:17.23 | spal | abrotman, and after that we need to execute aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade right? |
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| 18:18.22 | abrotman | i don't think you need to do an aptitude update .. i beleive that happens as part of apt-cdrom |
| 18:18.22 | mick_home | can i use: http://live.debian.net/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/usb-hdd/debian-live-500-i386-rescue.img then just dd the .img ? |
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| 18:18.22 | abrotman | yes, it does .. wouldn't make sense otherwise |
| 18:18.22 | dux0r | willies |
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| 18:19.20 | mick_home | rescue is 357M and standard is 143M - wtf? |
| 18:19.47 | mick_home | ouch 3 hrs to download |
| 18:19.56 | spal | abrotman, and if one were to modify the sources.list file manually (as opposed to apt-cdrom), is there a way to determine what goes inside the square brackets in: deb cdrom:[] lenny contrib main |
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| 18:19.58 | mick_home | a net install would be faster than that :P |
| 18:20.12 | jelly | roumba: debian live images are rather crappy when it comes to configuration and choice of software, alpha quality. Ubuntu livecds are _much_ nicer. |
| 18:20.19 | abrotman | spal: there is, but it's really easier to use apt-cdrom |
| 18:20.48 | spal | ok. just want to know the way for the sake of knowledge. is it just the label of the DVD or something more than that? |
| 18:21.08 | mick_home | i just want something small where i can fix my kernel |
| 18:21.49 | mick_home | it should just be something like an LFS system w/ apt |
| 18:22.12 | roumba | jelly: i tested one from live.debian.net recently, it worked as exepected, and embed all needed commands to save any changes about configurations and installed packages (though i didn't test that, so it's probably broken if you know that's alfa) |
| 18:22.33 | abrotman | spal: yes i believe so |
| 18:22.47 | mick_home | roumba: know of one that will take less than 3 hrs to download? |
| 18:23.05 | jelly | roumba: last time I tried it (a lenny livecd image), it was rather useless for sysadmin/recovery |
| 18:23.43 | mick_home | well i'm getting the standard one |
| 18:23.45 | spal | the apt-cdrom man page says: "It is necessary to use apt-cdrom to add CDs to the APT system, cannot be done by hand. Furthermore each disk in a multi-cd set must inserted and scanned separately to account for possible mis-burns." |
| 18:23.47 | jelly | advertised his favorite already so won't repeat himself |
| 18:23.53 | Selveste1 | mick_home: If you dont have internet - how can you be on IRC then ? just a thought |
| 18:24.06 | mick_home | Selveste1: wtf are you talking about |
| 18:24.25 | mick_home | i am just saying that the mirrors for the live images are slow |
| 18:24.33 | mick_home | takes 3 hrs to download |
| 18:24.49 | Selveste1 | mick_home: sorry that msg. was to spal :P |
| 18:25.10 | mick_home | i'm guessing that he has a slow connection or he has a faulty NIC |
| 18:25.29 | spal | Selveste1, I am on internet. I am planning to install Debian for my mom and dad when I go on vacation. :-) They don't have internet. |
| 18:25.41 | roumba | mick_home: i would use those from live.debian.net (standard is the same size than netinst) but jelly affirms that they aren't useful for sysadmin, but maybe to chroot and apt-get they are enough |
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| 18:26.03 | roumba | mick_home: ah sorry didn't read about slow server |
| 18:26.05 | mick_home | spal: a computer w/o internet is like sex w/o an orgasm -- i just don't see the point |
| 18:26.06 | jelly | yeah, that should work |
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| 18:26.13 | Selveste1 | spal: ahh :) |
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| 18:26.33 | roumba | sex w/o computer? |
| 18:27.05 | t_corr | hey can anyone point me in the right direction to do this: i need to get the output of 'w' and find anyone with a idle time over $x minutes. {how would i pipe the output of 'w' and for each line}, extract the idle time and then pipe it to something to parse it |
| 18:27.12 | t_corr | the part i am really stuck on is in the {} |
| 18:27.27 | t_corr | can i store multiple lines in one variable in bash? |
| 18:27.29 | abrotman | t_corr: you probably want to ask #bash |
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| 18:27.41 | t_corr | oh crap, i am sorry i thought it was |
| 18:27.44 | mick_home | ok, if someone has a better idea (and has it before 4 hrs) please /msg me |
| 18:27.46 | t_corr | disregard |
| 18:27.47 | spal | mick_home, they don't have a computer. I will give them a computer and install Debian. it will take some time to get internet but I want them to be able to use all software till then. So, installing Debian with 5 DVDs is the best I can do. |
| 18:27.50 | cvsup | when install ruby and rails in debian lenny |
| 18:27.53 | cvsup | work |
| 18:27.58 | mick_home | spal: it was a joke |
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| 18:28.11 | cvsup | but if i uninstall using apt-get remove e try install again not work |
| 18:28.15 | cvsup | somebody can help? |
| 18:28.25 | mick_home | i thought it was funny anyway... :P |
| 18:28.46 | mick_home | cvsup: you can use -f |
| 18:28.54 | abrotman | how would that help? |
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| 18:29.01 | abrotman | cvsup: what doesn't work about it ? |
| 18:29.10 | cvsup | mick_home with apt-get? |
| 18:29.17 | abrotman | cvsup: -f won't help |
| 18:29.25 | mick_home | -f i thought was to force an action |
| 18:29.30 | abrotman | no |
| 18:29.44 | mick_home | oops, i was thinking of something lse, sorry |
| 18:30.03 | mick_home | cvsup: pastebin the errors that you get |
| 18:30.04 | cvsup | mick_home not work |
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| 18:30.20 | mick_home | cvsup: i know, i just said "sorry" as i mixed something up |
| 18:30.22 | cvsup | apt-get install ruby not create binarie /usr/bin/ruby |
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| 18:31.06 | roumba | anyone to help me to get irssi-otr to work on debian sid? :/ |
| 18:31.23 | mick_home | does it already exist? or is there some type of permission problems? |
| 18:31.50 | cvsup | mick_home when i remove ruby |
| 18:32.05 | cvsup | the binarie file is not removed then i remove manually |
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| 18:32.13 | mick_home | when you remove it, it says "can't create"... |
| 18:32.17 | mick_home | ruby is weird |
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| 18:32.37 | Lish | mick_home: i try it live from my browser:D |
| 18:32.41 | cvsup | mick_home when install, it can't create |
| 18:32.57 | mick_home | ok, so you are trying to install it |
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| 18:33.21 | cvsup | apt-get --purge remove ruby libzlib-ruby rdoc irb rubygems rails eruby |
| 18:33.33 | cvsup | the binarie of /usr/bin/ruby persist |
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| 18:33.45 | cvsup | and i typ rm /usr/bin/ruby manually |
| 18:33.51 | cvsup | when try to install |
| 18:33.55 | cvsup | the binarie file is not create |
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| 18:34.18 | mick_home | what are the permissions on it? (out of curiosity) |
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| 18:34.35 | cvsup | what? |
| 18:34.57 | Selveste1 | cvsup: have you tryed dpkg --purge ruby ? |
| 18:35.33 | project2501a | hello: debootstrap deals completely with downloading and installing a new os image. Correct? |
| 18:35.44 | project2501a | how does it go about preseeding the image, though? |
| 18:35.47 | azeem | project2501a: no |
| 18:35.51 | project2501a | oh |
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| 18:36.15 | project2501a | azeem: basically i wanna create my own pre-seeded image, which then i wanna copy over to a flash drive |
| 18:36.19 | cvsup | Selveste1 yes |
| 18:36.22 | cvsup | but not work |
| 18:36.44 | project2501a | azeem: do i start reading on debootstrap or do i start reading on pre-seeding? |
| 18:36.57 | roumba | cvsup: try "aptitude reinstall ruby && aptitude purge ruby" |
| 18:37.03 | Selveste1 | cvsup: when you have maked --purge the bin. is still there ? |
| 18:37.18 | azeem | project2501a: that has nothing to do with debootstrap |
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| 18:38.26 | project2501a | kk |
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| 18:38.30 | project2501a | thank you |
| 18:38.33 | roumba | project2501a: debootstrap can download packages from a mirror, to create a chroot |
| 18:38.42 | cvsup | Selveste1 not work |
| 18:38.56 | project2501a | roumba: ah! a more clear answer :D |
| 18:38.57 | project2501a | cool |
| 18:38.59 | project2501a | will do that |
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| 18:40.05 | Selveste1 | cvsup: tried to install it all again and then dpkg --purge - I needed to do that before I was able to remove it :S |
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| 18:40.59 | roumba | cvsup: please try "aptitude reinstall ruby && aptitude purge ruby" |
| 18:41.27 | roumba | is there an "alternative" for the ruby binary ? oO |
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| 18:42.32 | roumba | cvsup: to see if an other program create a 'ruby' binary, you can try a "ls /etc/alternatives/ruby" |
| 18:42.34 | cvsup | not work |
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| 18:43.18 | cvsup | no such file or directory |
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| 18:43.53 | abrotman | cvsup: in lenny? |
| 18:44.04 | cvsup | yes |
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| 18:44.27 | abrotman | "ruby" is a metapackage .. purging/reinstalling won't do much |
| 18:44.35 | roumba | cvsup: can you copy the output of one of the purge command on pastebin.com (or an other) |
| 18:44.39 | roumba | ah ok |
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| 18:44.50 | abrotman | ruby1.8 perhaps ? |
| 18:45.00 | cvsup | yes ruby1.8 |
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| 18:45.11 | abrotman | or even libruby |
| 18:45.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess we're still wating for his pastebin of the errors he gets? |
| 18:45.37 | abrotman | that's crazy talk |
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| 18:45.45 | cvsup | abrotman how make to work? |
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| 18:45.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, sorry for that |
| 18:45.56 | abrotman | cvsup: have you shown us your error yet? |
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| 18:46.14 | cvsup | abrotman what command you need to report? |
| 18:46.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know wanting to see errors is crazy... I just sometimes get this... urge |
| 18:46.33 | abrotman | cvsup: show us how you know it's not working for starters |
| 18:46.55 | abrotman | cvsup: or errors installing/removing ruby/rails packages |
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| 18:51.18 | cvsup | abrotman http://pastebin.com/m1e36a1c9 |
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| 18:52.00 | adama_ | then what? |
| 18:53.25 | abrotman | didn't i say 'ruby' is a metapackage ? |
| 18:53.34 | Selveste1 | way do I have to rip my BlueRay-disc every-time I will see it on my desktop! when my PS3 is a *NIX and can play! |
| 18:54.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | also, there is no error in that pastebin |
| 18:54.21 | abrotman | that's like the worst error paste .. ever? |
| 18:54.42 | roumba | are things working a feature or a bug? |
| 18:54.50 | abrotman | pure luck |
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| 18:55.23 | cvsup | abrotman how remove it? |
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| 18:55.39 | roumba | so, it's a kind of third party plugin |
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| 18:56.06 | abrotman | cvsup: you're really not making sense .. what are you trying to remove ? |
| 18:56.15 | roumba | cvsup: we just don't understand what you're doing, and what you're trying to do |
| 18:56.43 | roumba | cvsup: don't hesitate to make more pastebin to show us your errors |
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| 18:57.02 | project2501a | can i alter the steps in the debian installer? meaning, i wanna answer the question about the ip of the computer first thing after booting up isolinux, so i can go feck off and do something else. is that possible? |
| 18:57.27 | module000 | project2501a: select "advanced mode" |
| 18:58.03 | project2501a | module000: the i'll be pre-seeding -mostly- the installation. i just want to answer a single question |
| 18:58.04 | roumba | project2501a: select advanced mode in the menu during boot |
| 18:58.06 | abrotman | project2501a: you'll still have to answer other questions ? |
| 18:58.11 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 18:58.14 | cvsup | http://pastebin.com/d10aa23f3 |
| 18:58.34 | dondelelcaro | project2501a: if you're doing preseeding, why not just use dhcp? |
| 18:58.38 | abrotman | cvsup: pay attention here .. the "ruby" package is a *metapackage* |
| 18:58.41 | abrotman | !tell cvsup about metapackage |
| 18:58.59 | project2501a | dondelelcaro: 400 server farm. dhcp is a no-no |
| 18:59.15 | project2501a | you never give a server, especially a production one, a dhcp lease |
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| 18:59.30 | dondelelcaro | project2501a: uh... just because you use dhcp to install doesn't mean you have to use dhcp to run |
| 18:59.31 | widmo | elo xd |
| 18:59.34 | abrotman | project2501a: you can make the dhcp give out a certain IP to a certain MAC .. if that helps |
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| 19:00.08 | abrotman | cvsup: what happens if you install 'ruby1.8' ? |
| 19:00.13 | roumba | cvsup: can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep ruby" ? |
| 19:00.15 | project2501a | dondelelcaro: ya, i know ,but that will *still* make me answer a single question, about the future ip of the server. which begets the original question ;) |
| 19:00.24 | dondelelcaro | project2501a: not if you preseed the ip as well |
| 19:00.33 | abrotman | project2501a: you could preseed it to be dhcp right ? |
| 19:00.39 | project2501a | preseeding a static ip? |
| 19:00.43 | dondelelcaro | project2501a: or you use preseeding to run scripts which *set* the ip based on the ip given |
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| 19:01.16 | dondelelcaro | (kind of depends on exactly what you're doing, of course) |
| 19:01.52 | project2501a | dondelelcaro: something akeen to that. they don't set the ip, they decide on the type of server, and then create the hardware raid via the cli, do partitioning all that good stuff |
| 19:02.13 | project2501a | hp400 raid controller ftw |
| 19:03.07 | dondelelcaro | project2501a: sure; once you're doing preseeding, assuming you can map the mac address to the type of server and ip, you can set up a small network which just does automated installs |
| 19:03.33 | dondelelcaro | project2501a: but it's probably not worth it unless you're setting up double-digit servers |
| 19:03.47 | project2501a | dondelelcaro: i'm lazy. humor me |
| 19:03.58 | project2501a | i'd rather be reading 4chan at work |
| 19:03.59 | dondelelcaro | it's your time; do what you want |
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| 19:04.04 | project2501a | than doing all the stuff by hand ;) |
| 19:04.11 | project2501a | i mean reddit |
| 19:04.26 | project2501a | hides the pedobear |
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| 19:05.15 | roumba | have fun all |
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| 19:13.33 | myeggo | hello, i have a fat32 usb mp3 player that i want mount, if i try sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/disk it is read-only, if i try via etc/fstab it says wrong fs type, and if i say it is fat32 instead vfat, is error too |
| 19:13.48 | myeggo | what is the right way to get permissions in a vfat fs type? |
| 19:14.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell myeggo -about vfatrw |
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| 19:15.15 | myeggo | oh, thank you |
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| 19:16.42 | myeggo | ah, just perfect, was easier than i thought |
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| 19:18.11 | SRabbelier | Someone please ban diJLe, it's a spam bot (just got porn advertisement from it on join) |
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| 19:18.58 | SRabbelier | On a wholly different note, the sound up/down/mute buttons of my new Lenovo W500 laptop aren't working, how would I best go about fixing them? |
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| 19:20.54 | draemon | SRabbelier: lineak is one option |
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| 19:21.32 | SRabbelier | draemon: ok, lemme try that |
| 19:21.54 | draemon | xmodmap is another |
| 19:22.13 | xaashi | Hi all, i'd like to modify debian net-install to use an updated kernel and modules, could anyone please point me in the right direction on how to get started |
| 19:22.16 | draemon | either way I think you have to run xev and hit the keys, write down the scan codes. Then you use one of the above to map them to something |
| 19:22.20 | SRabbelier | draemon: does it have a gtk/gnome frontend? |
| 19:22.40 | draemon | not in debian, I think it does upstream |
| 19:22.51 | draemon | but don't hold me to that - it's the reason I just use xmodmap |
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| 19:23.22 | draemon | xaashi: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetInstWithThirdPartyNetworkDriver |
| 19:23.42 | draemon | and the rest of that wiki |
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| 19:24.27 | xaashi | draemon: thank you, |
| 19:24.34 | SRabbelier | draemon: ok, I'll try xmodmap :) |
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| 19:24.58 | draemon | xaashi: don't thank me - I'm trying a similar thing myself and it's a painful process! |
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| 19:25.49 | xaashi | draemon: yeah.. my issue is a network driver also .. the joy |
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| 19:26.23 | draemon | xaashi: hehe, I assumed that - hence the specific link. Then I realised it might just not be. |
| 19:26.28 | lepine | Hey guys, i'm having a problems that's not exactly related to debian, but it happens on a debian install, and not an ubuntu one |
| 19:26.30 | cahoot | SRabbelier: else: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#Configuration_using_HAL |
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| 19:26.45 | lepine | I've got a php application that sets the locale, then uses the date() function |
| 19:26.47 | draemon | let me know how you get on |
| 19:26.57 | lepine | the locale i use if fr_FR |
| 19:27.14 | xaashi | draemon: thanks, i will, sadly, i wont be able to test it until tomorrow at work though |
| 19:27.24 | lepine | the system locales are both set to en_CA-utf8 |
| 19:27.25 | draemon | I'll be around |
| 19:27.31 | xaashi | noted :)_ |
| 19:28.06 | lepine | on ubuntu, dates in french (month names) are fine, but on debian, month names have wrongly encoded characters (the accentuated ones) |
| 19:28.26 | SRabbelier | cahoot: thanks! |
| 19:28.30 | lepine | the `locale` command states en_CA.UTF-8 on both systems |
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| 19:29.08 | lepine | what could be causing this discrepency? |
| 19:29.27 | xlotlu | on-join spam |
| 19:29.28 | lepine | All other content is fine. It's specific to the date() function and the locale. |
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| 19:34.08 | dondelelcaro | lepine: does the output of /usr/bin/date; work properly? |
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| 19:34.34 | dondelelcaro | s#usr/## |
| 19:35.13 | lepine | dondelelcaro: it's fine ... but it's in english |
| 19:35.17 | lepine | testign in french |
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| 19:39.21 | SidGBF | how to reconfigure PostGreSQL to make it utf8 for default? |
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| 19:41.20 | dondelelcaro | SidGBF: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/multibyte.html |
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| 19:41.34 | SidGBF | Im using 8.3 |
| 19:41.38 | feld | anyone here know of a repository for iceweasel/firefox 3.5 betas? |
| 19:41.47 | dondelelcaro | SidGBF: then look at the documentation for 8.3 |
| 19:41.53 | dondelelcaro | (it explains it fairly clearly) |
| 19:41.54 | nsadmin | SidGBF I thought it was already |
| 19:41.59 | SidGBF | or even: how to makethe default encoding for ubuntu/debian be utf8? |
| 19:42.15 | dondelelcaro | SidGBF: the default for Debian is UTF-8 |
| 19:42.19 | nsadmin | SidGBF I thought it (debian( was already |
| 19:42.34 | malkkis | And hey, why it is iceweasel? |
| 19:42.43 | dondelelcaro | !tell malkkis -about why iceweasel |
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| 19:43.09 | malkkis | dondelelcaro: Thx ;) |
| 19:43.16 | rena_mobile | hi |
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| 19:43.28 | rena_mobile | can anyone help me to do this: When presented with the boot menu, you may need to pass "noacpi" to the kernel to get the Ethernet card to work. (May not be needed as of 2009-01-26 with Lenny, if Lenny won't pick up a DHCP lease, try booting with pci=noacpi) |
| 19:43.58 | feld | rena_mobile: are you asking how to pass "noacpi" to the kernel? |
| 19:44.16 | xaashi | draemon: i see your point earlier ... first issue vendor supplied driver code .. nope doesn't compile |
| 19:46.01 | draemon | can you use the hardware on your working host? That way you can get it working under "normal" conditions first |
| 19:46.06 | lepine | dondelelcaro: how does one display a different date with `date` ... May in french has no accents |
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| 19:46.59 | rena_mobile | feld, yep |
| 19:47.33 | nkuttler | lepine: what do you mean? |
| 19:47.41 | nsadmin | rena_mobile: if upi |
| 19:47.53 | lepine | i'm trying to test my locale settings, to see if char encoding is right |
| 19:48.00 | nsadmin | err... if you're using grub, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:48.10 | lepine | however, there are no characters that can fail given the current date |
| 19:48.11 | xaashi | draemon: yep, that's wht i;m trying |
| 19:48.22 | lepine | 'i'd like to test, say, february 1st 2009 |
| 19:48.23 | nkuttler | lepine: i assume you did dpkg-reconfigures and set to french? |
| 19:48.32 | nkuttler | lepine: man date |
| 19:48.44 | lepine | nkuttler: no, i have not, i edited ~/.bash_profile |
| 19:48.46 | nsadmin | he mandates you man date |
| 19:48.49 | lepine | (which worked) |
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| 19:48.57 | lepine | and yes, i'm reading the man page as i type |
| 19:49.02 | nkuttler | lepine: did you set the LC etc variables? |
| 19:49.05 | rena_mobile | but it's in the instalation menu |
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| 19:49.14 | lepine | nkuttler: yes, that's what i did |
| 19:49.15 | nkuttler | or LANG or whatever it was |
| 19:49.23 | lepine | it showed the date in french when i logged in |
| 19:49.23 | xaashi | poking through the driver code, i think they may be using functions that have been changd, trying to figure out how compile against an older kernel |
| 19:49.40 | draemon | xaashi: ic. Awkward module then. I rarely have to use anything outside m-a, and thankfully that tends to work |
| 19:50.00 | lepine | ah ha! success (well, make that FAIL) ... it displays incorrectly accents in the console |
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| 19:50.12 | nkuttler | lepine: try an xterm or something |
| 19:50.21 | xaashi | the joy ey |
| 19:50.29 | lepine | nkuttler: tried through ssh, on ubuntu |
| 19:50.33 | lepine | trying on xterm |
| 19:50.33 | nkuttler | lepine: or maybe fonty-rg |
| 19:51.03 | nkuttler | likes an english shell |
| 19:51.20 | nsadmin | rena_mobile: finish the install, then try booting... see if it will boot |
| 19:51.55 | nsadmin | if the card doesn't work, boot again and get into grub shell and add the parameter |
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| 19:52.39 | nsadmin | if that works, make it permanent by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst after booting |
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| 19:53.21 | nsadmin | rena_mobile are you sure the net card does not work with acpi? |
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| 19:53.51 | SerajewelKS | enouf: got my kernel booting properly now, lkml finally got back to me and apparently there's a patch that solves both of my boot problems |
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| 19:57.37 | t_corr | anybody in the cleveland area and want kittens? |
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| 20:08.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | earthian...... |
| 20:08.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | quitters |
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| 20:08.50 | kos-mos1 | do you know a based debian distro with out of the box support? |
| 20:09.16 | nsadmin | most distros work in the box |
| 20:09.42 | nsadmin | you want a distro that supports being out of a box? |
| 20:10.04 | rena_mobile | can anyone help me with this: When presented with the boot menu, you may need to pass "noacpi" to the kernel to get the Ethernet card to work. (May not be needed as of 2009-01-26 with Lenny, if Lenny won't pick up a DHCP lease, try booting with pci=noacpi) ??? |
| 20:10.08 | kos-mos1 | i mean codecs etc.. |
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| 20:10.32 | pickcoder | kos-mos1: I don't think there's any O/S that works "out of the box" for every possible codec in the world |
| 20:10.40 | nsadmin | like anything else, if you want something you'd have to install it |
| 20:10.40 | pickcoder | install what you need |
| 20:11.05 | nsadmin | rena_mobile: are you SURE your card does not work with acpi? |
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| 20:11.36 | pickcoder | !tell kos-mos1 about debian-multimedia |
| 20:12.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do you arrive at codecs from that question? |
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| 20:15.56 | nsadmin | I still don't understand why he wants a dist to support a box... |
| 20:16.23 | xaashi | draemon: does your build compile |
| 20:16.24 | xaashi | > |
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| 20:20.30 | draemon | xaashi: I have a working host with working driver, but I'm struggling with kernel-wedge |
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| 20:21.07 | draemon | I've built a custom kernel (patched, no extra drivers) before and it worked, but I can't even get that far now :S |
| 20:21.10 | xaashi | same here, do you by any chance get a ""could not find kernel image at /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/install-files line 72" |
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| 20:21.53 | draemon | no, I get "missing module scsi_dh" |
| 20:22.15 | xaashi | draemon: thankfully my driver errors were simple to fix -just a kenel-wedge :S |
| 20:22.31 | draemon | your message sounds like maybe the kernel version doesn't match? |
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| 20:23.16 | xaashi | how do you confirm that |
| 20:23.40 | draemon | can you paste the line from kernel-versions? |
| 20:23.57 | xaashi | i'm running 2.6.29-2 and under linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/kernel-version, it lists 2.6.29-2 |
| 20:24.12 | xaashi | from kernel-version; |
| 20:24.13 | magyar_ | psylance, the autofs solution is too old and painful . I just found out about usbmount. Works like a dream |
| 20:24.14 | xaashi | # arch version flavour installedname suffix build-depends |
| 20:24.15 | xaashi | i386 2.6.29-2 486 2.6.29-2-486 - linux-image-2.6.29-2-486 |
| 20:24.15 | xaashi | i386 2.6.29-2 686-bigmem 2.6.29-2-686-bigmem - linux-image-2.6.29-2-686-bigmem |
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| 20:24.31 | nsadmin | that;s for lenny? |
| 20:24.42 | draemon | you probably only want one of those |
| 20:24.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | err, look at said line in said file? |
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| 20:25.34 | zxd | hi |
| 20:25.34 | zxd | why do the msttcorefonts look chopped when using AA+hinting medium or higher |
| 20:25.37 | draemon | for the above, you need linux-image-2.6.29-2-486 and linux-image-2.6.29-2-686-bigmem installed |
| 20:25.38 | xaashi | ooh ok, i'm meant to edit that -- sorry i didnt get that in the instructions |
| 20:25.46 | draemon | so you can check that with dpkg -l |
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| 20:26.57 | xaashi | now fakeroot is playing up, sorry will reboot, back in 5 |
| 20:26.59 | pippoo | Hi, I have a big problem with my dns server on debian.. I don't know how but maybe someone's flooding me.. http://pastebin.com/m4f70acbe There are 2 days my bind9 is going crazy... |
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| 20:28.02 | indro | hi all |
| 20:28.15 | indro | does an alternative to alsaconf exists? |
| 20:28.30 | indro | alsaconf is not in alsa-utils anymore (sid) |
| 20:28.32 | draemon | xaashi: fyi /usr/share/doc/kernel-wedge/README.gz looks much better |
| 20:28.42 | draemon | but not so much of a tutorial |
| 20:29.37 | nsadmin | pippoo: what does your bind serve? |
| 20:29.45 | neur0x | hola mis putillas |
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| 20:30.50 | cvsup | somebody can say one squid frontend for create uses, change password |
| 20:30.51 | cvsup | etc? |
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| 20:31.46 | pippoo | nsadmin: well, it goes just in timeout.. I don't know how I can do.. |
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| 20:32.13 | nsadmin | pippoo what is the purpose of your bind? |
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| 20:32.34 | pippoo | nsadmin: i have 2000 zones |
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| 20:33.04 | codeshepherd_ | i have a custom script in /etc/init.d/ ... I ran ... update-rc.d mountec2vol start 15 2 3 4 5 . start 47 S . start 35 0 1 6 ... now every time my server boots.. the script gets called twice.. can anyone tell me why it gets called twice ? |
| 20:33.38 | nsadmin | pippoo: someone's paying for some of them? |
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| 20:34.55 | pippoo | nsadmin: yes.. i have also qmail on this server and now I have timeouts of pop3/smtp |
| 20:35.16 | nsadmin | is this server a remote? |
| 20:35.34 | codeshepherd_ | nsadmin: yes .. |
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| 20:35.40 | pippoo | nsadmin: yes |
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| 20:36.26 | nsadmin | see already I want to suggest you find professional service for the domains, a place with good staff that knows how to handle these situations |
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| 20:37.44 | nsadmin | the staff knows all the latest attack strategies and has countermeasures scripted |
| 20:38.18 | nsadmin | have you looked at the logs? |
| 20:38.34 | nsadmin | (if no... then don't walk to a pro... RUN...) |
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| 20:39.37 | indro | hi all, anyone know an alternative to alsaconf? |
| 20:39.45 | nsadmin | that's my advice... you need to be looking into professional service, now. |
| 20:41.23 | ethanw | indro: afaik, thats the only one for alsa. whats the problem with it? |
| 20:42.13 | xaashi | with regard to the lolaa-linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/kernel-versions |
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| 20:42.33 | xaashi | assuming you have to list the current kernel you are compiling against in there |
| 20:42.43 | indro | ethanw: its gone. :/ |
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| 20:42.57 | ethanw | indro: are you trying to config an isa card? |
| 20:43.11 | xaashi | however, you only get options for 2.6.29-2-486 and 2.6.29-2-686-bigmem .. and everything else fails. |
| 20:43.16 | indro | http://pastebin.com/m42924e7 |
| 20:43.19 | draemon | xaashi: The kernel should already be compiled and installed - kernel-wedge just splits the .deb into udebs |
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| 20:43.42 | indro | ethanw: i used it to chose soundcard/fix sound issues... |
| 20:44.06 | indro | "This tool makes life easier for users of ISA soundcards and for myself as a user of multiple soundcards (it automates the selection of the sound card and driver to use)" |
| 20:44.10 | draemon | xaashi: Oh, if it isn't clear, you need to install the kernel for the *target* on the *host* which is dumb, but hey |
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| 20:44.23 | indro | is there another tool that does that? |
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| 20:45.22 | xaashi | i was begining to think that, trying to install 2.6.29-2-486 |
| 20:45.35 | ethanw | indro: a quick google reveals nothing :\ |
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| 20:45.54 | xaashi | draemon: however, i didnt think there was much difference between the 3/4/6/86's |
| 20:45.58 | xaashi | other than name!? |
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| 20:47.33 | draemon | xashi: If they've been compiled properly they indicate the minimum system they'll run on |
| 20:47.37 | draemon | I think |
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| 20:48.15 | xaashi | what is the difference between 3-4-686 anyhow? |
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| 20:48.38 | dondelelcaro | xaashi: quite a bit, instruction set and architecture-wise. |
| 20:48.41 | adb | yes, type of processor |
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| 20:49.08 | xaashi | seen .. |
| 20:49.15 | stickboy | hello. i'm trying to save my filesystem and i can't seem to get networking working to install tracker-utils any ideas? |
| 20:49.39 | helo | what is the advantage of using dm-crypt vs truecrypt? |
| 20:49.46 | ethanw | indro: you could build alsa-utils yourself to get alsaconf |
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| 20:50.28 | draemon | I'm really stuck on this "missing scsi_dh" |
| 20:50.45 | ethanw | indro: other than that there doesnt seem to be much of a solution |
| 20:50.57 | ethanw | indro: just a lot of upset folks |
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| 20:51.10 | draemon | I've even done grep -iR scsi_dh * and it comes up with nothing, so where on earth does it get the idea that it needs it? |
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| 20:59.33 | badcloud | which irc client would you recommend? |
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| 20:59.53 | neur0x | pork |
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| 20:59.59 | draemon | badcloud: gui or cli? |
| 21:00.23 | badcloud | hmmm, good question draemon |
| 21:00.26 | badcloud | cli |
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| 21:00.49 | badcloud | no reason to overdo cpu usage |
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| 21:01.37 | badcloud | thanks, neur0x, draemon |
| 21:01.39 | badcloud | :) |
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| 21:01.50 | draemon | never heard of pork so can't comment on that, but I used irssi for a while |
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| 21:03.19 | helo | irssi is nice |
| 21:03.43 | abrotman | badcloud: irssi or xchat |
| 21:03.50 | abrotman | xchat (as the name implies) is a GUI client |
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| 21:04.00 | badcloud | right |
| 21:04.00 | helo | i used epic4 for several years until i discovered it... it is terrible in comparison to irssi |
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| 21:04.32 | badcloud | I'll try pork and irssi (since I'm prone to cli) |
| 21:04.35 | draemon | helo: agreed |
| 21:04.36 | badcloud | thanks again |
| 21:04.43 | helo | whoever recommended epic4 when i first started using linux did me a huge disservice heh |
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| 21:04.51 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 21:05.05 | abrotman | badcloud: irssi is what many people using CLI IRC clients use |
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| 21:07.07 | pickcoder | abrotman: no bitchX? |
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| 21:07.27 | abrotman | !bitchx |
| 21:07.27 | dpkg | BitchX is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. As a Debian package, screwed up and not falling back to IPv4 when IPv6 ain't possible. It's not as good as <irssi> and needs less moronic /quit messages. If you are an irssi user who is annoyed by said /quit messages, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>. Abandoned by upstream, removed from Debian to resolve bug #451373. |
| 21:07.36 | abrotman | abandoned by upstream is a good reason not to use it |
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| 21:07.47 | badcloud1 | tring irssi now |
| 21:07.51 | badcloud1 | :) |
| 21:08.27 | wildc4rd | tried weechat the other day, seems nice if you prefer a terminal based client |
| 21:08.34 | draemon | I wasted ages trying to "get into" bitchx 'cos I somehow got the impression it was "the" irc client |
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| 21:09.06 | pickcoder | it used to be |
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| 21:13.00 | badcloud | hell, while I'm here |
| 21:13.10 | badcloud | lightweight web browser? |
| 21:13.16 | badcloud | (gui)? |
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| 21:13.27 | badcloud | no '?' after gui |
| 21:13.35 | sepult | badcloud: konqueror ? |
| 21:13.42 | sepult | badcloud: dillo, gecko ? |
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| 21:13.50 | sepult | badcloud: links2, w3m ? |
| 21:13.51 | badcloud | thank |
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| 21:13.52 | badcloud | s |
| 21:15.05 | badcloud | links2 looks tasty |
| 21:15.16 | sepult | links2 -g is ok on X |
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| 21:15.38 | sepult | you can even use it with framebuffer |
| 21:15.52 | sepult | or directfb |
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| 21:19.36 | badcloud | hmmm, links2 and dillo don't support yahoo calendar |
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| 21:23.40 | badcloud | I'm loving irssi |
| 21:23.46 | badcloud | but one problem |
| 21:24.22 | badcloud | switching between windows (alt-#) clashes with gnome terminal's tabbing system |
| 21:24.26 | badcloud | or rather, overlaps |
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| 21:24.52 | azeem | hrm |
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| 21:25.10 | raanan | whoops |
| 21:25.32 | badcloud | can anyone help me alter either tab selection method? |
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| 21:25.51 | action09 | ioy |
| 21:26.31 | abrotman | badcloud: use ctrl-p/n |
| 21:26.35 | abrotman | badcloud: or /win ## |
| 21:26.51 | badcloud | thanks |
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| 21:28.02 | badcloud | MARVELOUS |
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| 21:28.41 | maddash | where in the repositories does the java servlet development kit reside? |
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| 21:31.35 | abrotman | maddash: your java sdk ? apt-cache search java sdk |
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| 21:32.37 | maddash | abrotman: nice try. the first thing i did before i even tried compiling my servelet was apt-get install sun-java6-jdk |
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| 21:33.13 | abrotman | uhm .. then be more specific as to what your problem is .. becuase that is the SDK |
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| 21:33.20 | Lish | in /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia i have a file nvidiafb.ko can any one tell me how to intsall this or what exacly do? |
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| 21:33.44 | draemon | abrotman: SDK!=servlet development kit |
| 21:33.52 | abrotman | draemon: i didn't say it was .. |
| 21:34.03 | draemon | but that's what maddash asked for |
| 21:34.12 | abrotman | except he tried to install the SDK also |
| 21:34.18 | abrotman | now i'm asking for more details .. |
| 21:34.19 | stew | maddash: you mean libservlet2.{3,4}-java ? |
| 21:34.49 | draemon | oh wait...now I get it |
| 21:35.01 | stew | there isn't a "servlet sdk" that I'm aware of. there is the java sdk, and there is servlet*.jar |
| 21:35.18 | \amethyst | netbeans? |
| 21:35.36 | abrotman | that'd be a servlet development environment ? |
| 21:35.45 | stew | sure, as would emacs, but... |
| 21:36.01 | abrotman | draemon: still confused? :) |
| 21:36.03 | stew | maddash: what exactly is the problem you are having? you are getting an error from the compiler? if so, what? |
| 21:36.17 | maddash | stew: the first things that i installed were packages "tomcat6", and "sun-java6-jdk", and tomcat6 depends on libservlet2.5 |
| 21:36.25 | maddash | stew: libservlet2.5-java* |
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| 21:36.39 | abrotman | is tomcat actually using the sun java ? |
| 21:36.42 | maddash | stew: I'm trying to compile the helloworldexample.java |
| 21:36.50 | nsadmin | maddash so that -combination- is your servlet sdk, such as it is |
| 21:36.57 | maddash | stew: it's located in package tomcat6-examples |
| 21:37.01 | stew | maddash: with what command are you trying to compile? |
| 21:37.11 | maddash | stew: javac HelloWorldExample.java |
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| 21:38.10 | stew | maddash: you'd need to add -cp /usr/share/java/servlet-whatever-.jar |
| 21:38.12 | maddash | here's the complete description of the source file and errors: http://mibbit.com/pb/JR9k9J |
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| 21:38.40 | xaashi1 | hi, does anyone here use the 2.6.29 kernel, from the debian repo. it is missing the firmware_class module. is this normal? |
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| 21:39.16 | maddash | stew: thanks! |
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| 21:40.26 | Noble | Is it possible to use both protocol 1 and 2 on sshd? |
| 21:40.33 | Lish | with m-a you can install .ko? |
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| 21:41.05 | xaashi1 | Lish: sorry are you referrng to me/ |
| 21:41.16 | Lish | generly:) |
| 21:41.20 | xaashi1 | :) |
| 21:41.29 | xaashi1 | will look up how to use m-a |
| 21:41.36 | stew | Lish: it is possible, but you'd need to have a -source package for the module you are wanting to install |
| 21:42.31 | xaashi1 | yep, and need to build the basic kernel at least i suppose |
| 21:43.10 | Lish | i was build the 2.6.28 , can i rebuild only nvidia!? |
| 21:43.18 | pickcoder | Noble: yes. man sshd_config |
| 21:43.21 | draemon | Lish - yes |
| 21:43.37 | Lish | with m-a right? |
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| 21:43.43 | draemon | you should be able to do "sudo m-a a-i nvidia" in most cases |
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| 21:44.03 | Lish | ok:) |
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| 21:49.00 | betz | Hi, noobish question, how can i add a user and overwrite his home directory path? |
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| 21:49.38 | BCM43 | how would I tell dpkg not to install a package with future updates? |
| 21:49.50 | dkr | betz: man adduser there is an option to sepcify non-default home dir |
| 21:49.55 | ethanw | BCM43 add to disallowed |
| 21:50.03 | BCM43 | ethanw: how? |
| 21:50.10 | ethanw | BCM43: hold tight |
| 21:50.11 | draemon | betz: did you mean overwrite or override? |
| 21:50.20 | betz | override, sorry |
| 21:50.35 | betz | dkr: thanx, will have a look |
| 21:50.36 | dkr | draemon: you need to be a little psychic to help people on irc. :) |
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| 21:50.55 | agaran | dkr: why?:-) |
| 21:50.57 | draemon | dkr: yes, but here either could work |
| 21:51.29 | shadowbeast | what is the best way to remove the config files and reinstall them when a package is in apt |
| 21:51.32 | xaashi1 | draemon: do you by any chance use and 2.9.29 kernel and if so, have the firmware_class module? |
| 21:51.53 | stew | xaashi1: what do you need the firmware_class module for? |
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| 21:52.01 | stew | xaashi1: are you sure it is not obsolete? |
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| 21:52.48 | xaashi1 | stew: kernel-wedge does |
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| 21:52.52 | ethanw | BCM43: i think its aptitude forbid-version packagename=* |
| 21:53.00 | stew | xaashi1: what is kernel-wedge? |
| 21:53.07 | draemon | xaashi1: 2.6.26 here |
| 21:53.16 | xaashi1 | it fails complaining that "missing module firmware_class" .. |
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| 21:53.55 | draemon | xashi1: you need to find out which module/i386/* file is looking for it |
| 21:53.56 | stew | xaashi1: checked the bts for kernel-wedge? |
| 21:54.15 | xaashi1 | stew: bts? |
| 21:54.27 | stew | xaashi1: bug tracking system |
| 21:54.32 | xaashi1 | draemon: yes i saw that, it exists in 2.6.26 .. but though the source in the 6.29 .. can't find the module selection |
| 21:54.32 | stew | xaashi1: what version of kernel wedge are you using? |
| 21:54.49 | ethanw | BCM43: ahh no. have a look here http://osdir.com/ml/linux.redhat.release.zoot/2002-05/msg00017.html |
| 21:55.05 | ethanw | BCM43: the article mentions redhat, but its still relevant |
| 21:55.14 | xaashi1 | stew: : V. 2.53 |
| 21:55.15 | ethanw | dunno why they have apt on rehdat tho |
| 21:55.22 | stew | judd: versions kernel-wedge |
| 21:55.23 | judd | stew: kernel-wedge -- etch: 2.31.1 lenny: 2.53 sid: 2.53 sid: 2.58 squeeze: 2.58 |
| 21:55.26 | BCM43 | ethanw: thanks |
| 21:55.28 | draemon | xaashi1: edit modules/i386/core-modules and put "firmware_class -" there |
| 21:55.53 | stew | xaashi1: its not suprising that the stable version doesn't work with the unstable kernel. you'd probably need 2.58 |
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| 21:56.18 | xaashi1 | draemon: thanks doing so now |
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| 21:56.45 | xaashi1 | stew: most likely, but sadly need the 2.6.29 kernel to work with some wifi stuff |
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| 21:57.12 | draemon | xaashi1: I had to change a number of things like that, but it's built now. just grep the pacakges/kernel/kernel-wedge/module directory for the problem module |
| 21:57.20 | xaashi1 | draemon: what does that line do .. ignore the module? |
| 21:57.31 | stew | xaashi1: since 2.6.29 is the current kernel version in sid, i'd expect the kernel-wedge package in sid to work with it. i'm not suprised to find out that the version in stable is broken currently wrt 2.6.29 |
| 21:57.36 | draemon | then edit the corresponding file in packages/kenerl/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/module/i386/ |
| 21:57.40 | stew | seeing as how 2.6.29 didn't exist at the time |
| 21:58.13 | draemon | xaashi1: all the module/i386/* files include the global kernel-wedge modules, which list modules to include |
| 21:58.16 | draemon | the "-" undoes that |
| 21:58.18 | xaashi1 | stew: kernel package is from sid |
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| 21:58.33 | stew | xaashi1: yes, but the kernel-wedge packages is not |
| 21:58.53 | xaashi1 | stew: no |
| 21:59.10 | helo | what about kernel-biggs? |
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| 22:00.28 | stew | xaashi1: and the problem you were having is mentioned as being fixed in the 2.54 version of kernel-wedge |
| 22:00.33 | stew | * core-modules: firmware_class is no longer available |
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| 22:01.04 | xaashi1 | cool. thanks stew |
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| 22:09.16 | xaashi1 | draemon: that man, after a few edits, looks like it's getting somewhere |
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| 22:09.48 | draemon | gd. I've got it "building" but I still don't have an iso yet |
| 22:10.55 | xaashi1 | draemon: i spoke too soon, another module missing, eepro100, looking for which nic file to edit |
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| 22:14.11 | SRabbelier | Any advice on how to get my Lenvo W500 to use a docking station's external display? |
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| 22:15.20 | ethanw | SRabbelier: this is for ubuntu, but may be relevant |
| 22:15.21 | ethanw | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-991624.html |
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| 22:16.24 | Kuroboushi | hello good people |
| 22:16.25 | SRabbelier | ethanw: thanks, I'll have a look |
| 22:17.32 | Kuroboushi | I'm having problems getting spell-check enabled in cone and leaf, I have aspell isntalled and working on its own but when I try to use it in leaf for exampe it says "spell checking disabled" |
| 22:18.37 | Kuroboushi | (I've got the env DICTIONARY set) |
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| 22:28.24 | dlynes | Just wondering if anyone happens to know of a circumstance where I wouldn't be able to connect on localhost ports, but external boxes can connect on my local ports, using my ethernet ip address, and I can't even so much as ping myself, but I can ping everyone else? |
| 22:29.12 | dlynes | i.e. localhost -> router = fine router -> localhost = fine localhost -> localhost = catastrophe |
| 22:29.35 | dlynes | Doesn't seem to matter whether I use loopback interface, or LAN address, either |
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| 22:30.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | firewall rules? |
| 22:30.17 | xaashi1 | draemon: yet another query, sorry, have you had the "some modules are in more than one package" error yet |
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| 22:31.34 | draemon | xaashi1: yeah, that one's easy |
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| 22:31.48 | draemon | touch ignore-dup |
| 22:31.54 | xaashi1 | been grep'ing for repeats |
| 22:31.59 | Tramp | dlynes: please don't crosspost. |
| 22:32.14 | dlynes | Tramp: sorry |
| 22:32.23 | draemon | ignore-dups even |
| 22:32.33 | xaashi1 | draemon: what is that file |
| 22:32.44 | stew | xaashi1: are you still using the older version of kernel-wedge with the newer kernel? |
| 22:32.47 | xaashi1 | ooh sorry |
| 22:32.59 | draemon | there's a proper way to fix it, but it hardly seems worth it |
| 22:33.16 | draemon | info is in /usr/share/doc/kernel-wedge/README.gz (search for ignore-dups) |
| 22:33.22 | jvogel | Hi - I want to update my kernel to 2.6.29 and i was wondering what's the best way to do this. I found this: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn but that says "experimental" ... what does it mean by experimental? is the kernel still "stable"? |
| 22:33.37 | jvogel | i'm running squeeze, an image i made a couple weeks ago |
| 22:33.38 | jvogel | just installed |
| 22:34.06 | xaashi1 | stew, the newer, i'd like to see how far i can get with it, it seems easier to install from live cd and build the modules i need on there, but learning at the moment |
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| 22:35.25 | Kuroboushi | well, I'll keep on battling on my own, have a good night! |
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| 22:36.51 | midkniht | anyone got experience with debian and asterisk? |
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| 22:37.01 | midkniht | installed from repositories? |
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| 22:37.59 | dkr | !anyone |
| 22:37.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> <search>, or <htasq> |
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| 22:38.28 | enouf | !ping |
| 22:38.28 | dpkg | Yes, enouf, you are online. |
| 22:39.24 | enouf | dpkg: thank you |
| 22:39.25 | dpkg | enouf: gern geschehen |
| 22:39.46 | enouf | i need to look at that silly --more off to the far right |
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| 22:40.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | !monulogue |
| 22:40.50 | dpkg | from memory, monulogue is a dialogue with one person less |
| 22:41.42 | draemon | s/less/fewer/ |
| 22:42.02 | bkw | Anyone who can tell if is hard to dual boot a macbook running osx and lenny? I've seen that there's a wiki describing very much, but are there any alternatives or are all those steps requied to get a dual booted debian environment? |
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| 22:45.43 | midkniht | ok |
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| 22:46.19 | xaashi1 | draemon: thank you for all the help and patience |
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| 22:47.23 | midkniht | i installed asterisk default install and added users to sip.conf and get a error liek this: chan_sip.c: username mismatch, have <midkniht>, digest has <6001> |
| 22:47.29 | draemon | xaashi1: No worries. I'm stuck on something myself now :S |
| 22:47.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkw, does it occur to you that it is hard for anyone to decide that without the wiki page? (And I don't know in how far dual boot on a macbook should differ from one with windows - this uses x86 hardware afaik) |
| 22:48.05 | draemon | trying to rebuild the initrd |
| 22:48.30 | xaashi1 | :) |
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| 22:49.39 | xaashi1 | it's been interesting .. but i thnk i'll do the hand craft a kernl .. this is too frustrating .. not suprising since it's still dev |
| 22:50.14 | draemon | how are you going to get the hand-crafted kernel onto the target machine? |
| 22:50.44 | draemon | I'm kinda disappointed about how hard this is - the build process for the distribution should be stable and robust |
| 22:51.07 | draemon | and documented! |
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| 22:51.28 | eOliva | I downloaded the testing cd iso and I install it with no problems, but when lilo tries to load, it sends me the initramfs shell... Why?? It never happened with the install. I'm using LVM |
| 22:51.29 | midkniht | dkr> so you didnt have any input but had to be a ass? |
| 22:51.41 | karsten | draemon: um, make-kpkg? |
| 22:52.11 | karsten | bkw: Boot Camp AFAIU. |
| 22:52.25 | draemon | karsten: the *distro* not the kernel |
| 22:52.30 | xaashi1 | draemon: live cd, ignore netwrok drivers |
| 22:52.41 | xaashi1 | download kernel and build |
| 22:52.43 | themill | midkniht: you'll *never* get an answer here to "does anyone use" questions. |
| 22:53.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkw, if you mean http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Doubleboot-MacOSX.26Debian ... it's basically 2 steps - repartition (shrink OS X partition and add partition) and b) install debian ... but I agree that the wiki page is quite confusing, as in not structured enough and repeating things |
| 22:53.01 | draemon | xaashi1: how do you download without network drivers? |
| 22:53.24 | xaashi1 | using another machine to create the live cd |
| 22:53.30 | karsten | draemon: I guess I don't understand the question. |
| 22:54.09 | karsten | draemon: Looking at scrollback now, but what's your problem exactly? |
| 22:54.11 | bkw | karsten: according to bootcamp documentation it is for windows, I've not seen linux mentioned anywhere. |
| 22:54.35 | xaashi1 | my problem was with the 82574L drivers |
| 22:54.43 | karsten | bkw: Boot Camp is Apple's boot manager. They don't document dual-booting Linux, but that's what you use. |
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| 22:55.06 | draemon | xaashi1: Ah, so you can get a system which can build the drivers, using only the live cd |
| 22:55.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | midkniht, if you never ask, nobody can answer... there's never a guarantee anyone can - I wouldn't call someone bringing your attention to this fact an "ass" |
| 22:55.41 | xaashi1 | draemon: hopefully |
| 22:56.03 | draemon | karsten: I want to make my own netinst cd, with (in the past) patched kernel to fix a raid card issue, or (now) a 3rd party wifi driver to let me install on an old laptop |
| 22:56.04 | midkniht | well when its more likely that i am typing out a explanation for someone who doent have a clue about what im talking about |
| 22:56.18 | xaashi1 | draemon: i checked the code i found compiled fine for the 2.6.26 kernel, so install the stable and then build the driver i think |
| 22:56.26 | xaashi1 | then update .. |
| 22:56.31 | karsten | draemon: ... without a current running Debian system? |
| 22:56.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | although it is said that an ass can do the work of in no time :) |
| 22:56.56 | draemon | I can *easily* build the kernel, easily build the module on my main machine - but producing an iso for my target seems v difficult |
| 22:57.00 | midkniht | im just irritated sorry |
| 22:57.03 | xaashi1 | hopefully (fingers crosed, touching wood, avoiding ladders and with a rabbit foot in pocket)_ |
| 22:57.06 | draemon | no, I have a fully working lenny machine |
| 22:57.06 | midkniht | not meaning to take it out here |
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| 22:57.16 | midkniht | asterisk people are of no help |
| 22:57.31 | karsten | draemon: There's a package for building bootable disks, among other things. |
| 22:57.36 | midkniht | noone wants to claim the debian package |
| 22:57.45 | karsten | draemon: I'm not specifically familiar with updating the netinst disk. |
| 22:57.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | midkniht, there's 918 people in this channel, one of whom might be able to answer... but there's also enough people coming in, asking someone so that nobody ever answers to polls or non-questions |
| 22:57.57 | xaashi1 | draemon: yeah, i was hoping to produce the iso this way and distribute it .. but i'll have to go with the easy option ;) |
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| 22:58.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/ asking someone/asking something/ |
| 22:58.32 | xaashi1 | karsten: yes, can you use it to build a package based on your running system |
| 22:58.34 | draemon | karsten: But it's badly documented, and the process is incredibly long considering I just want to add a module |
| 22:59.06 | draemon | and in fact you can't even get it as a package - just source |
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| 22:59.28 | themill | draemon: please write up what you have found and add it to the d-i section of the wiki |
| 22:59.31 | xaashi1 | generally i'm happy with source, it's tools that kill me |
| 23:00.38 | draemon | themill: I wish I'd written it up last time - since I actually got it working. If I get it working I will. But I'm actually following a very long set of instructions that are already up there, but it's a very hacky way to do things |
| 23:00.44 | draemon | (it even says so) |
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| 23:01.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | midkniht, nothing useful in the 1600 google hits I get for chan_sip.c: username mismatch, though? also, check the bts ( /msg dpkg bts ) |
| 23:01.15 | xaashi1 | draemon: thanks again .. going to bed .. night all |
| 23:01.30 | midkniht | yeah i have went through all those |
| 23:01.31 | draemon | gnight |
| 23:01.46 | midkniht | i dont come here to ask the questions just do i can lmgtfy |
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| 23:02.39 | midkniht | what is the best way to add a SIP user to default install of asterisk |
| 23:02.45 | midkniht | there simple question |
| 23:02.50 | bkw | karsten: have you tried booting debian using bootcamp, or do you know it just works? :) |
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| 23:03.56 | notape | i have a dir full of files with spaces in them. i want to turn each space into an underscore. how do i do this? |
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| 23:04.14 | draemon | notape: mmv |
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| 23:04.57 | notape | draemon: ?? |
| 23:04.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | midkniht, well, the 1st hit suggests that there's a mismatch between stuff in /etc/asterik/sip.conf and /etc/asterisk/users.conf |
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| 23:05.31 | themill | notape: rename |
| 23:05.33 | karsten | bkw: I haven't. I looked into it, I recall that was the tool to use. |
| 23:05.51 | karsten | bkw: There are some mac-specific HW discussions and mailing lists. Might check those. |
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| 23:06.01 | midkniht | yeah well its a default install, nothing added to users.conf and just a user added to the end of sip.conf and still not working |
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| 23:06.56 | notape | themill: what i mean is, is there a way to do all at once. because there's over 200 files in the dir |
| 23:07.04 | themill | notape: yes. man rename |
| 23:08.02 | karsten | bkw: I don't currently use any Mac HW for Linux. |
| 23:08.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | karsten, but wikipeida says macbook is x86 hardware? |
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| 23:11.29 | notape | themill: so would this be right? rename 'y/ /_/' * |
| 23:12.05 | themill | notape: try it and see... use the "-n" option to see what it's planning to do. |
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| 23:15.02 | notape | themill: got it. thanks |
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| 23:19.06 | enouf | macintel .. heh |
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| 23:19.34 | enouf | i guess mac wasn't intel... (ligent) prior |
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| 23:22.05 | enouf | someone - please tell me how to colorize all nicknames with random colors in irssi - i have a script in ~/.irssi/scripts/ called people.pl and it's {re}loaded - but it's not working, but it worked a few days ago .. and i changed nothing about that - what i think happened is i had /set <somethings> prior to even trying it, that's whjy it worked then |
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| 23:24.03 | Drakeson | ,changelogs |
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| 23:24.22 | Drakeson | fsbot: changelogs |
| 23:24.47 | Drakeson | what happened to http://packages.debian.org/changelogs ? |
| 23:24.52 | adama_ | enouf /set hilight? |
| 23:25.10 | enouf | checks |
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| 23:26.15 | Drakeson | with that not working, "aptitude changelog <package-name>" is broken. |
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| 23:27.26 | enouf | adama_: what do you see??http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m6449417b |
| 23:27.31 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.07 | enouf | Drakeson: i use apt-listchanges |
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| 23:29.28 | enouf | adama_: sorry, last line is 19:20 hilight_nick_matches = ON |
| 23:29.29 | bododo | hi folks! :) |
| 23:30.01 | bododo | While reading the wiki I spotted something strange, or maybe I'm just still a beginner :) |
| 23:30.04 | bododo | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall#Example.3ABasicgatewaymachinefirewall |
| 23:30.55 | bododo | the comment: Drop invalid state packets |
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| 23:31.37 | enouf | adama_: fwiw - and i'll find it again, i had this _other_ script i thought would do it called colorize.pl or someshit .. let me find it again and reload it - i rm'd it thinking it wasn't needed since people.pl seemed to wwork |
| 23:32.06 | enouf | and it, by itself did not work |
| 23:33.34 | enouf | i guess this is the URL -- http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/nickcolor.pl |
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| 23:36.24 | bododo | is xfce 4.6 available in backports yet? the search form doesn't work for me :( |
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| 23:38.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xfce |
| 23:38.45 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: xfce -- |
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| 23:39.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | sheesh, so many packages to choose from |
| 23:39.35 | bododo | judd, are you a bot? |
| 23:39.36 | judd | bododo: Error: "are" is not a valid command. |
| 23:39.46 | bododo | ok, thanks :) |
| 23:39.49 | stew | judd: versions xfce4 |
| 23:39.50 | judd | stew: xfce4 -- etch: 4.3.99.2 etch-backports: 4.4.2~bpo40+2 lenny: 4.4.2.1 sid: 4.4.2.1 sid: 4.6.1 squeeze: 4.6.1 |
| 23:39.55 | stew | (yes, it is a bot) |
| 23:40.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xfce4-settings |
| 23:40.01 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: xfce4-settings -- sid: 4.6.1-1 squeeze: 4.6.1-1 |
| 23:40.43 | bododo | how hard/safe is it to use sid? |
| 23:40.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | how big is a forest |
| 23:41.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... expect problems |
| 23:41.36 | bododo | (by hard I meant to upgrade from lenny to sid) |
| 23:41.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, that's simple |
| 23:41.51 | enouf_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | !sim |
| 23:41.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | eh |
| 23:42.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | !sid |
| 23:42.00 | dpkg | [sid] the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
| 23:42.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | the problem is more to keep it running |
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| 23:43.05 | bododo | ah! ok, then :) |
| 23:43.16 | bododo | I want a stable system anyway |
| 23:43.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | do /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 23:45.21 | bododo | so,I found this firewall script (which I somehow understand and agree with for my use) http://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall#Example.3ABasicgatewaymachinefirewall should I just add it to /etc/init.d |
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| 23:45.48 | bododo | or how do I use that utility given by debian to setup init.d scripts? |
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| 23:52.10 | streuner | bododo: desktop or server? |
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| 23:53.15 | bododo | streuner: desktop |
| 23:53.33 | bododo | this very laptop I'm using right now :) |
| 23:53.50 | bododo | But I need the LAN to be able to access SSH and HTTP |
| 23:54.26 | streuner | well, some people just use interfaces to call a script like foo.sh |
| 23:54.32 | bododo | I guess I'll just have to add two rules to accept packets from 192.168.1.1/255 to these ports |
| 23:55.01 | bododo | streuner: you mean manually? (I wanted it to start on boot) |
| 23:55.52 | streuner | nah, look at examples (interfaces) |
| 23:56.05 | streuner | !interfaces |
| 23:56.06 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
| 23:56.12 | bododo | ah! I see what you meant. By "utility" I meant: update-rc.d myfirewall start 40 S . stop 89 0 6 . |
| 23:57.39 | bododo | streuner: but I thought /etc/networks/interfaces don't handle "access permissions", do they? |
| 23:58.05 | bododo | I actually want to set a simple firewall with a bash script to be started on boot |
| 23:58.16 | bododo | without using a gui or a tool |
| 23:58.39 | bododo | a simple script I can put in git and retrieve at will |
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| 23:59.57 | mischief | can someone tell me why my bash prompt is I have no name!@host, and 'id' says i don't exist? |
