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| 00:03.21 | streuner | mischief: is everything fine with your wireless issue now? |
| 00:03.31 | mischief | streuner, no, lol |
| 00:03.43 | mischief | i had to run off to the local diner with some friends |
| 00:03.53 | streuner | heh, they arent able help you too? |
| 00:04.12 | mischief | lol |
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| 00:04.25 | mischief | streuner, any idea about this I have no name! problem? :( |
| 00:05.02 | ethanw | anyone know how to connect a bluetooth HID now that hidd has been killed? (kde) getting seriously pissed off by the removal of tools before a good replacement is in place. :S |
| 00:05.04 | streuner | login as normal "user"? |
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| 00:05.38 | mischief | streuner, i am a normal user |
| 00:05.50 | mischief | i just added a user with useradd and tryed logging in to it, and that is what i got |
| 00:06.12 | streuner | why useradd? in Debian you just use adduser |
| 00:06.37 | dkr | same difference |
| 00:06.42 | simonrvn | no |
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| 00:06.58 | simonrvn | vastly different |
| 00:06.58 | mischief | er yes, streuner i did use adduser |
| 00:06.59 | mischief | sorry |
| 00:07.14 | streuner | hm |
| 00:07.15 | ethanw | ahh d/w. found it. for future reference http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/InputDevices lists it. *grumble* |
| 00:07.20 | mischief | i logged in as the user, and i was put in /home/mischief/ properly |
| 00:07.27 | mischief | but 'id' says i don't exist |
| 00:07.32 | mischief | but i am clearly in /etc/passwd |
| 00:08.04 | simonrvn | /etc/nsswitch.conf - is that ok? |
| 00:08.22 | dkr | primary difference to mee seems that useradd uses short options like -h for homedir and adduser uses long ones like --home :) |
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| 00:08.51 | mischief | simonrvn, i haven't changed it...it exists, and i don't see anything obviously wrong with it |
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| 00:09.08 | dkr | is your uid really high? |
| 00:09.10 | simonrvn | adduser does more, and more easily managed, ime |
| 00:09.17 | mischief | dkr, only 1000 |
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| 00:09.30 | simonrvn | normal uidnumber |
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| 00:09.51 | dkr | what was the exact useradd command? |
| 00:10.08 | dkr | or adduser, heh |
| 00:10.12 | mischief | 'adduser mischief' |
| 00:10.14 | mischief | :D |
| 00:10.15 | streuner | adduser <user> |
| 00:10.30 | streuner | thats normaly enough to add a user as root |
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| 00:10.50 | streuner | dont unterstand what somebody do wrong with that simple command |
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| 00:11.01 | mischief | well, i did do 'usermod -a -G sudo mischief' after :\ that is not a problem is it? |
| 00:11.12 | streuner | omg |
| 00:11.15 | dkr | when you ls -l your home dir does it translate uid to username? |
| 00:11.37 | simonrvn | yeh, it default to adding non-system users, takes care of handling the creatino of a ~/, and a few other things. |
| 00:11.42 | mischief | dkr, no, it does not |
| 00:11.55 | mischief | it just shows '1000' as the user and 'mischief' as group |
| 00:11.56 | mischief | :( |
| 00:12.10 | simonrvn | creation*; also you can add sub-scripts.. |
| 00:12.29 | mischief | omg |
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| 00:12.40 | mischief | but as the root user when i ls -l /home/mischief |
| 00:12.43 | mischief | it shows it correctly :( |
| 00:12.46 | simonrvn | wtf |
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| 00:12.56 | dkr | /etc/passwd not world readable? heh |
| 00:13.20 | IamSOG | :o |
| 00:13.33 | simonrvn | :D |
| 00:13.34 | IamSOG | it's readable, but not by us ;D |
| 00:13.38 | betz | Does anyone knows how to use CVS? i want to get a list of all available projects on a cvs server, howto? |
| 00:13.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | dkr, no, only /etc/shadow :-P |
| 00:13.48 | simonrvn | haha |
| 00:14.06 | simonrvn | howto? you want a howto? :P |
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| 00:14.13 | mischief | haha |
| 00:14.17 | mischief | dkr, no, it isn't xP |
| 00:14.23 | mischief | -rw------- 1 root root 1.3K May 26 16:56 /etc/passwd |
| 00:14.23 | dkr | or maybe /etc/nsswitch.conf isn't readable by user so it doesn't know to look at passwd |
| 00:14.29 | dkr | ah, well, there is your problem |
| 00:14.30 | streuner | argh |
| 00:14.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | mischief, there you are... |
| 00:14.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | dkr, good thinking |
| 00:14.46 | mischief | there we go, thanks much dkr ! |
| 00:14.52 | simonrvn | i don't remember if cvs supports an ls-like command... |
| 00:15.15 | simonrvn | omg, what's it doing with 600 perms? |
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| 00:15.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, "being secured" |
| 00:15.32 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 00:15.33 | streuner | hehe |
| 00:15.47 | dkr | someone that is 60 years old lived in a bunker and missed the invention of shadow files was securing the system |
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| 00:16.36 | simonrvn | betz: zsh with certain options on the CLI supports tab completion with cvs and other tools... |
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| 00:17.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | dkr, and JUST found out why dis don't works |
| 00:17.19 | simonrvn | dkr: or someone reading a 30-40 yr old doc on securing your system ;p |
| 00:17.32 | dkr | betz: there is no built-in way, one of the gripes about cvs. :) |
| 00:17.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, I hope no document ever suggested this |
| 00:17.57 | simonrvn | yeh... |
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| 00:18.24 | betz | auwch |
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| 00:18.52 | simonrvn | gets his food |
| 00:18.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="chmod+600+%2Fetc%2Fpassword" |
| 00:19.54 | streuner | "Can't Create New User or edit /etc/passwd" |
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| 00:22.00 | streuner | knowlegde about passwd makes people suspect ;-) |
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| 00:22.34 | streuner | have a little idea about ;-) |
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| 00:23.11 | karsten | What's a good test for existence of a process? |
| 00:23.23 | karsten | I know kill -0 works, but only if you have permissions to signal the process. |
| 00:23.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | pgrep? |
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| 00:24.00 | karsten | hrm. |
| 00:24.04 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: http://web.bilkent.edu.tr/Online/uworld/archives/95/tutorial/007/007.lst.html scroll down a bit... (!) |
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| 00:24.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.14 | karsten | We're using a lockfile to manage a script. So we know the PID. |
| 00:24.20 | karsten | CutMeOwnThroat: Yeah, i thought of that. |
| 00:24.26 | copper__ | can someone tell me where the logs for the channel are hosted online? |
| 00:24.30 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: "corrected" your 'password' to 'passwd' |
| 00:24.32 | copper__ | this channel* |
| 00:24.48 | stuNNed | anyone know why networkmanager is saying 'device not managed'? |
| 00:24.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, nice |
| 00:25.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | oops, indeed |
| 00:25.23 | streuner | are you that guy who using sid? |
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| 00:25.35 | simonrvn | "# Secure password files" |
| 00:25.50 | simonrvn | rolls eyes |
| 00:25.52 | streuner | Didnt we tell you to look at BTS? |
| 00:25.57 | stuNNed | streuner: who me? |
| 00:26.01 | streuner | sure |
| 00:26.05 | simonrvn | er, no right above that |
| 00:26.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, haha... bit further down the hits - "Disable Viewing Users in /home" yeah, guess it does that |
| 00:26.53 | stuNNed | streuner: same affect in lenny and squeeze as well though for some odd reason. |
| 00:27.00 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 00:27.17 | simonrvn | then it chmods it 444 |
| 00:27.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, it actually says "Set permissions", then takes them away... then it resets them |
| 00:27.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
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| 00:27.46 | streuner | stuNNed: well, if NM wont work, just use interfaces |
| 00:28.08 | stuNNed | streuner: what's the name of the dpkg for interfaces? |
| 00:28.18 | streuner | its already installed |
| 00:28.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, chmod 123 /etc/passwd;chmod 234 /etc/passwd;chmod 345 /etc/passwd;chmod 456 /etc/passwd; chmod 644 /etc/passwd; # doodel-dee doodel-doo |
| 00:28.30 | streuner | stuNNed: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 00:28.34 | stuNNed | streuner: thanks |
| 00:28.39 | copper__ | anyone a url for this channel's archives? |
| 00:28.55 | streuner | stuNNed: /msg dpkg wireless (as well) |
| 00:29.14 | streuner | google for Tim Riker or such |
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| 00:29.52 | streuner | "apt" has logs, IIRC |
| 00:29.59 | dkr | copper__: freenode has a policy against public channel logs. ask dpkg for stuff, though. he knows a lot. :) |
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| 00:30.46 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: i thought it kinda odd myself, unless it's insurance to make sure it's writable by root, but why bother with setting it 600 ? |
| 00:30.47 | stuNNed | streuner: thanks, why would 127.0.0.1 be listed as the nameserver? |
| 00:30.56 | simonrvn | !channel logs |
| 00:30.56 | dpkg | These no longer exist. Sorry. |
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| 00:31.00 | copper__ | i asked dpkg. its no help |
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| 00:31.04 | simonrvn | !logs |
| 00:31.04 | dpkg | logs are what you should always check when you have a problem. They live in /var/log/ |
| 00:31.10 | copper__ | some gave me a link here last time but i lost it |
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| 00:31.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, because of "doodel-dee, doodel-doo", of course :) |
| 00:31.32 | streuner | 127.0.0.1 is localhost, but surely not your DNS-Server |
| 00:31.36 | \amethyst | it makes sure passwd is not readable while it is being updated |
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| 00:31.51 | \amethyst | not world-readable |
| 00:31.57 | simonrvn | !#debian logs |
| 00:31.58 | dpkg | well, #debian logs is at http://leguin.org.uk/debian/logs/ |
| 00:32.03 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: hehe |
| 00:32.06 | dkr | copper__: I didn't mean to ask him where to find logs of the channel, I meant to ask him about whatever it is you wanted to search the logs for |
| 00:32.12 | simonrvn | doubt those work... |
| 00:32.19 | \amethyst | though it's not quite right, since it does cp /etc/passwd.org /etc/passwd *before* the chmod 600 |
| 00:32.40 | copper__ | thanks but i specifically needed a log from this channel on a certain date |
| 00:32.56 | stuNNed | streuner: it's listed in /etc/resolv.conf as such.. |
| 00:33.01 | \amethyst | copper__: is there something in particular you are looking for? |
| 00:33.11 | simonrvn | \amethyst: yes, and potential of causing problems for a split moment, or worse, staying that way if it gets killed |
| 00:33.14 | streuner | stuNNed: DHCP? |
| 00:33.17 | dkr | copper__: and public logs of the channel are not allowed. so the onyl other option is to ask someone if they have a private log of that date |
| 00:33.20 | copper__ | leguin.org.uk/debian/logs is a dead log |
| 00:33.33 | stuNNed | streuner: yes |
| 00:33.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, true |
| 00:34.00 | agaran | anyone had kernel oops then freeze on lenny, stock kernel, while replacing ethernets via rmmod module;change something in udev to get it under different name; modprobe module? |
| 00:34.02 | streuner | stuNNed: you can configure that in your DHCP-client... |
| 00:34.21 | streuner | stuNNed: dhclient.conf or such... |
| 00:34.52 | CoolCold | hello |
| 00:34.54 | stuNNed | streuner: would dnsmasq-base be doing this? |
| 00:34.56 | stuNNed | hi CoolCold |
| 00:34.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | one also wonders, why it's not simply "cat /etc/passwd.org /usr2/passwd.net >/etc/passwd" |
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| 00:35.00 | CoolCold | have a question about 'debian way' |
| 00:35.10 | streuner | no idea |
| 00:35.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | CoolCold, use the force |
| 00:35.16 | CoolCold | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
| 00:35.49 | simonrvn | CutMeOwnThroat: cut down on processing time and spawned processes, your way |
| 00:36.31 | \amethyst | stuNNed: could be, since it's a DHCP server |
| 00:36.38 | CoolCold | if one install package which includes some daemon. daemon's init script check if daemon is enabled in /etc/default/pnp4nagios, and if it doesn't init script exits with exit code 1 |
| 00:36.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | simonrvn, but he's right - you don't want a process to access a truncated /etc/passwd - although there's probably no stopping a process from accessing a truncated /etc/shadow |
| 00:36.49 | CoolCold | which breaks postinstall |
| 00:37.12 | frankS2 | anyone else here can tell me how i can turn on STATEFUL in my firewall |
| 00:37.12 | simonrvn | yeh, that's quite true |
| 00:37.15 | frankS2 | ive been having this problem since the morning |
| 00:37.16 | frankS2 | please |
| 00:37.16 | frankS2 | :) |
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| 00:37.56 | CoolCold | so, i can change exit 1 to exit 0 if there is no value in /etc/default/pnp4nagios |
| 00:38.05 | simonrvn | frankS2: lartc.org |
| 00:38.12 | CoolCold | but this may break smth |
| 00:38.33 | CoolCold | frankS2: are you sure you firewall isn't statefull ? |
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| 00:38.50 | frankS2 | CoolCold: how can i turn that off? |
| 00:40.04 | stuNNed | oh i think avahi-dnsconfd is doing it |
| 00:40.47 | \amethyst | stuNNed: ah... probably |
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| 00:41.00 | CoolCold | frankS2: erm, so you want to turn it on or off? |
| 00:41.13 | frankS2 | CoolCold: I am not sure, im running in pasv mode |
| 00:41.22 | \amethyst | stuNNed: you can just remove that package if you don't want your DNS configured based on zeroconf |
| 00:41.22 | frankS2 | CoolCold: i want to enable it |
| 00:41.28 | frankS2 | CoolCold: i think, how can i do that? |
| 00:41.41 | \amethyst | stuNNed: (nothing depends or even suggests avahi-dnsconfd) |
| 00:41.57 | CoolCold | afaik iptables are statefull |
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| 00:42.06 | stuNNed | \amethyst: yeah i thought it would fix the network-manager problem :) |
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| 00:43.01 | IamSOG | dondelelcaro nice |
| 00:43.09 | frankS2 | CoolCold: it is? |
| 00:43.17 | frankS2 | CoolCold: i tried it on a freebsd machine, and it worked there |
| 00:43.19 | Akaji | goodtime guys |
| 00:43.21 | frankS2 | CoolCold: just not with my iptables |
| 00:46.17 | CoolCold | if you add rule without --notrack it should be statefull |
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| 00:47.04 | copper__ | does anyone have a private log of this channel on 5/22? |
| 00:47.12 | streuner | no |
| 00:47.22 | CoolCold | frankS2: but i'm not iptables expert, just use nat sometimes |
| 00:47.43 | stew | copper__: the topic contains a url with logs of this channel |
| 00:48.00 | streuner | Who read /topic anyway? |
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| 00:48.18 | streuner | well, we just told him to google for Tim Riker |
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| 00:48.30 | streuner | but some people dont listen at all too |
| 00:48.56 | copper__ | thank you streuner that is exactly what i was looking for |
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| 00:52.28 | cusco | hi... Im having a little troube with wget |
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| 00:52.49 | cusco | I am trying to wget --recursive my router's webpage with --http-user=admin and --http-password=password but Im getting a "No data received" |
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| 00:53.16 | streuner | tkinfo wget and look for examples |
| 00:53.25 | streuner | or just use info ;-) |
| 00:53.56 | cusco | I don't understand, I've used --recursive many times before - it should be ok jus tusing basic auth |
| 00:53.57 | streuner | hm, but password? |
| 00:54.12 | cusco | yes...? |
| 00:54.19 | ulaelable | debian |
| 00:54.30 | cusco | yes |
| 00:54.32 | cusco | :p |
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| 01:01.41 | copper__ | what these logs dont show the channel text |
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| 01:04.43 | cusco | just in case streuner, the debug output: http://pastebin.com/m37dcd720 |
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| 01:07.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | cusco, and what part of "HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized" did you not understand? |
| 01:07.45 | mischief | anyone know how to set the command key in screen? |
| 01:08.37 | karsten | mischief: ~/.screenrc ? |
| 01:08.43 | cusco | CutMeOwnThroat: I don't understand why... |
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| 01:09.11 | karsten | mischief: or '-e xy' commandline option (man screen). |
| 01:09.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | cusco, compare to browser... |
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| 01:10.14 | cusco | CutMeOwnThroat: index has some frames - on wget those frames are 401 I don't see why |
| 01:10.15 | mischief | karsten, yes, what do i put in .screenrc to set a different command combination |
| 01:10.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | cusco, actually, also "[server] has not issued a general basic challenge." |
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| 01:11.26 | mischief | aha, i see karsten thanks! |
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| 01:12.06 | \amethyst | cusco: what happens when you access /robots.txt in a browser? |
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| 01:13.11 | mischief | shit, having one screen inside another does not work well! |
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| 01:14.00 | karsten | mischief: RTFM :) |
| 01:14.10 | mischief | karsten, i did :\ |
| 01:14.10 | karsten | mischief: nested screen sessions are a PITA. |
| 01:14.25 | karsten | mischief: C-C-a will pass a command to the inner session. |
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| 01:14.40 | karsten | mischief: I try to avoid doing that in general though. |
| 01:14.44 | mischief | karsten, i set the escape of root's screen session to something other than my own |
| 01:14.54 | mischief | i wanted to be able to watch root's screen from my own screen session :( |
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| 01:14.55 | Tapout | dpkg ext3 |
| 01:14.55 | dpkg | i guess ext3 is the One True Filesystem. If you have to ask what filesystem you should be using, use ext3. Ask me about <ext2->ext3>, <xfs>, <ricerfs> and <filesystems>. FAQ - http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 |
| 01:14.56 | Tapout | dpkg ext4 |
| 01:14.56 | dpkg | [ext4] Fourth extended file system. Adds features such as support for volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in 'e2fsprogs' since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged into mainline kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy. http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:15.01 | mischief | :| |
| 01:15.11 | karsten | Tapout: /msg the bot please. |
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| 01:15.38 | karsten | mischief: Why not just watch root's session from a raw terminal? |
| 01:15.49 | karsten | mischief: You can reconnect to root's session as needed. |
| 01:15.59 | mischief | i suppose |
| 01:16.05 | mischief | it's a vps though :o |
| 01:16.14 | karsten | vps? |
| 01:16.28 | mischief | dpkg vps |
| 01:16.28 | dpkg | from memory, vps is Virtual Private Server |
| 01:16.31 | mischief | :) |
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| 01:16.43 | cusco | \amethyst: blank - looks like exists but keeps blank |
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| 01:17.22 | karsten | wonders when people will get on the ball with Real Virtual Foo. |
| 01:17.43 | cusco | let me lookup the flag to exclude robots.txt |
| 01:17.43 | Akaji | hi ppl |
| 01:17.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | does a few pull-ups on his Real Virtual Bar |
| 01:18.27 | karsten | draws a draft guiness from CutMeOwnThroat's RVB. |
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| 01:19.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | karsten, sweat... it's only got sweat |
| 01:19.57 | karsten | CutMeOwnThroat: virtual sweat. |
| 01:20.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | REAL virtual sweat |
| 01:20.11 | karsten | :) |
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| 01:20.29 | cusco | streuner: \amethyst excluding robots.txt it downloads it all... ok |
| 01:20.36 | cusco | weird but thanks |
| 01:20.43 | IamSOG | anyone know beside Kopete, is there another Chat software that will support Web cam ? |
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| 01:21.39 | \amethyst | cusco: it's not mentioned in the man page, only in the info docs |
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| 01:23.37 | \amethyst | cusco: though probably you should fix robots.txt... it's looking like the server isn't even sending an HTTP header for robots.txt |
| 01:24.30 | \amethyst | cusco: not sure what would cause that, maybe a broken rewrite rule or a rewrite rule pointing to a broken script |
| 01:25.46 | cusco | \amethyst: well its a router, even tho based on linux, I am not going to worry about it... I just want the page offline for future reference |
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| 01:30.25 | Cisien | So, I'm trying to get Debian 5.0.1 to work in VMWare Workstation 6.0.5, and everythign works fine, except the VMWare mouse features (grab/release the mouse when it enters the vmware window, mouse working in vnc, etc). The problem is that the vmmouse module doesn't work - output from Xorg.0.log is: (EE) VMWARE(0): vmmouse enable failed. Any ideas? |
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| 01:34.36 | mischief | Cisien, i find there are lots of issues with the vmmouse driver |
| 01:34.43 | mischief | Cisien, have you tried installing vmware tools? |
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| 01:35.20 | ulaelable | woah |
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| 01:36.25 | flourish | hello all, quick question. I want to find a dav calendar to share event with friends, any good products? Now i use the mod_dav of apache2 |
| 01:38.58 | IamSOG | um... if I want to add a sonypi modules, I need to add it to devices.txt? but where is Devices.txt ? |
| 01:39.14 | Tapout | I've got terrible fragmentation on a mounted ext3. I could copy all the files out, and then back in, but there must be a better method that people use... are you guys using ext4? xfs? ... something else? |
| 01:39.20 | Tapout | filefrag shows thousands of extents |
| 01:40.15 | Cisien | mischief, yes, and with the exception of the mouse, everything else is working |
| 01:40.28 | Cisien | vmware version is 6.5.2 (i'm tired) |
| 01:40.38 | IamSOG | um.. ext3 shouldn't give you fragmentation? |
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| 01:40.55 | Tapout | well it is |
| 01:41.11 | Tapout | 18 minute cp from the file. On the new file, it takes less than 3 minutes |
| 01:41.19 | Tapout | I've tested it, repeatedly.. the file takes 18 minutes |
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| 01:44.36 | ramiroec | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.36 | ramiroec | hi, some ifconfig/network question... can be this error-rate normal? |
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| 01:45.47 | Tapout | ramiroec, i'd make sure it's in full-duplex first.. |
| 01:45.50 | Tapout | ethtool eth0 |
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| 01:46.04 | Cisien | mischief: the version for vmmouse is 12.6.2, if that helps anything. |
| 01:46.28 | mischief | Cisien, i don't really know much about the issue- i only know that vmmouse doesn't work under OpenBSD 4.5 for me either :p |
| 01:46.46 | Cisien | ahh, same symptoms, or something else? |
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| 01:47.12 | Cisien | my googleing shows people got it working after adding Option "CorePointer" to the config, but that doesn't work for me :/ |
| 01:47.23 | PrMoriarty | hello do you know the best way for change the character color on the linux console? |
| 01:48.41 | asg | PrMoriarty: google for the bash prompt howto |
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| 01:52.43 | jdsandeson | ? is it possible to use sarg or etch insted of lenny for the purpose of having a smaller lighter system for older machien? |
| 01:54.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | jdsandeson, if your providing security updates |
| 01:54.59 | jdsandeson | Dont want to update making embeded device pictureframe |
| 01:56.00 | jdsandeson | just want to run x no desktop manager just enough stuff to run feh |
| 01:56.08 | ramiroec | Tapout : No data available :( |
| 01:56.28 | ramiroec | eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok |
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| 01:57.56 | Uni | how can I make apt-get not run through the configure portion of installing a package? |
| 01:58.14 | Uni | -y and --force-yes don't do anything for me |
| 01:58.23 | Uni | well, don't do anything for this particular behaviour |
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| 01:58.41 | Uni | which is ouput a configuration dialog into the log file output is being directed into |
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| 01:58.48 | Uni | and block waiting for input |
| 02:00.55 | Uni | am I going to need to download the package manually and use dpkg to get around this or is there a way to pass of the input the package is wanting through the commandline? |
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| 02:02.14 | Blackhold | hello |
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| 02:03.51 | Blackhold | I'm on squeeze and my multimedia buttons worked before an update, now I find that multimedia buttons to up or down volume don't work, but the mute one it do. The function keys does work (up/down brightness, turn on/of the light) |
| 02:04.14 | Blackhold | and also the other problem that appeared is mixxx don't works, it don't plays |
| 02:04.26 | Blackhold | these two errors appeared on same update |
| 02:04.41 | Blackhold | anyone knows what could be? |
| 02:04.43 | Blackhold | thanks |
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| 02:09.33 | Manu311 | hi, I've got a problem: I want 2 install compiz, but when I try to follow the howto: http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz the first step is impossible to pass. compizconfig-settings-manager needs python-compizconfig which needs libcompizconfig0 which is not installable if compiz is installed. |
| 02:09.33 | Manu311 | What should I do? |
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| 02:15.43 | qiyong | dh_testdir -a |
| 02:15.47 | qiyong | what is the -a option? it's not documented in the manpage. |
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| 02:16.55 | Cisien | anyone manage to get their mouse working properly in vmware? Tools installed, but vmmouse module is not enabling |
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| 02:28.00 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 02:28.16 | man_in_shack | this is annoying me, is there a way to install kde apps WITHOUT installing kde-icons-oxygen? |
| 02:28.45 | man_in_shack | it's a 66MB download i don't need |
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| 02:37.21 | nsadmin | man_in_shack: you might as well bite the bullet and install it... other than that, you could rebuild the package to not depend on the icons |
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| 02:37.59 | wohdfoh | need help with GRUB. i have linux on hdb but in grub its referred to as hd0, 0. so what would hda be? |
| 02:38.02 | man_in_shack | why does it depend specifically on oxygen icons and not any other icon theme?> |
| 02:38.25 | nsadmin | or you could install and force the depends... after that, the package manager will complain every time you try to install something |
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| 02:38.49 | man_in_shack | kdebase-runtime should so not depend on exactly one icon theme |
| 02:38.51 | nsadmin | man_in_shack that's a question better asked of the person who set that dependency |
| 02:42.40 | nsadmin | wohdfoh: /etc/grub/device.map |
| 02:43.09 | nsadmin | btw, consider using UUIDs |
| 02:43.09 | ajavid | hey |
| 02:43.10 | wohdfoh | nsadmin: the file appears empty or does not exist |
| 02:43.18 | ajavid | anyone know how to make screencast in debian with audio |
| 02:43.30 | wohdfoh | yeah. it does not exist |
| 02:43.34 | ajavid | I have recordmydesktop and I can make screencasts, but it doesn't record, audio, however my mic works too |
| 02:43.43 | ajavid | i hear myself in my speakers when i unmute my mic |
| 02:44.03 | ajavid | what are some screencast audio/video recording software in deb? |
| 02:44.51 | nsadmin | oops, wrong path. |
| 02:44.59 | nsadmin | wohdfoh: /boot/grub/device.map |
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| 02:45.56 | wohdfoh | nsadmin: (hd0) /dev/hdb |
| 02:46.24 | nsadmin | hd0 is grub terminology |
| 02:46.28 | nsadmin | it' |
| 02:46.37 | nsadmin | s associating it with hdb |
| 02:46.44 | wohdfoh | (hd0) /dev/hda (hd1) /dev/hdb |
| 02:46.49 | wohdfoh | ? |
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| 02:46.58 | wohdfoh | with a break in there too |
| 02:47.08 | nsadmin | then you'd have to change menu.lst |
| 02:47.18 | Vasistha | cupsd keeps dying on me ... trying to add a printer. |
| 02:47.23 | nsadmin | what do you want to do with hda? |
| 02:47.29 | ajavid | oh |
| 02:47.33 | wohdfoh | add a new os to grub |
| 02:47.57 | nsadmin | which is on hda? |
| 02:48.01 | wohdfoh | yeah |
| 02:48.34 | nsadmin | if you make those changes, make sure first you can get into your hdb os |
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| 02:50.23 | wohdfoh | i haven't changed anything yet. i could just add hda to device.map and not change the entry for hdb |
| 02:50.37 | wohdfoh | doesn't have to be pretty. |
| 02:51.06 | nsadmin | you might want to do it that way, then you can just add the stanza for the new os to menu.lst |
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| 02:52.03 | wohdfoh | ok. so .... |
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| 02:53.00 | nsadmin | one thing you might try is boot, get to the grub shell and try to boot the hda os |
| 02:53.01 | wohdfoh | (hd0) /dev/hdb |
| 02:53.01 | wohdfoh | (hd1) /dev/hda |
| 02:53.03 | wohdfoh | then... |
| 02:53.07 | wohdfoh | title NEW OS |
| 02:53.07 | wohdfoh | root (hd1,0) |
| 02:53.07 | wohdfoh | makeactive |
| 02:53.07 | wohdfoh | chainloader +1 |
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| 02:53.20 | wohdfoh | sorry about that. forgot about flooding |
| 02:53.53 | nsadmin | sure give that a shot |
| 02:53.59 | wohdfoh | ok |
| 02:54.07 | wohdfoh | haven |
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| 02:54.12 | wohdfoh | *haven't done this for a while |
| 02:54.14 | nsadmin | and you might want to install pastebinit |
| 02:54.44 | wohdfoh | got it installed. forgot about it. |
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| 03:00.24 | jmoncayo | pastebinit? |
| 03:00.25 | jmoncayo | what is it |
| 03:00.39 | nsadmin | !pastebin |
| 03:00.40 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 03:01.21 | jmoncayo | nice i didnt know there was a package for ir |
| 03:01.22 | jmoncayo | it* |
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| 03:01.49 | nsadmin | I renamed mine to stdin-paste |
| 03:02.09 | jmoncayo | =] |
| 03:03.19 | Sashi | is there ANY possible way for lighttpd + pam? |
| 03:03.32 | nsadmin | way to do what? |
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| 03:03.48 | Sashi | a way for lighttpd to check against /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow |
| 03:04.06 | IamSOG | strange, when I do a modprobe in Lenny, it said command not found |
| 03:04.16 | nsadmin | look at its source... maybe you can code a module for it |
| 03:04.43 | nsadmin | IamSOG: look at your $PATH |
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| 03:06.02 | \amethyst | Sashi: http://redmine.lighttpd.net/issues/688 tagged Wontfix |
| 03:06.31 | Sashi | :( |
| 03:06.42 | \amethyst | Sashi: because they don't want the server to run as root |
| 03:06.50 | trey___ | Hey guys, everytime i boot i get DHCPDISCOVER taking a really long time, is that a server or just my normal DHCP? how can i make it stop? |
| 03:06.57 | \amethyst | Sashi: or to use an authentication helper that runs as root |
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| 03:07.04 | trey___ | i dont think it needs to even run |
| 03:07.35 | \amethyst | Sashi: apache can do it if it's not too heavy for you |
| 03:07.44 | Sashi | no apache is too ehavy |
| 03:07.46 | Sashi | heavy* |
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| 03:12.29 | \amethyst | Sashi: it can authenticate via ldap, but that would involve putting your user database into ldap, or keeping two parallel databases |
| 03:12.40 | \amethyst | Sashi: and if it's the latter you might as well just use a htpasswd |
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| 03:13.43 | stuNNed | \amethyst: ah, it has to do with setting up a caching nameserver |
| 03:13.59 | stuNNed | localhost in /etc/resolv.conf, that is |
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| 03:14.12 | \amethyst | stuNNed: ah, it set itself up to be your primary nameserver? |
| 03:14.17 | \amethyst | stuNNed: dnsmasq that is? |
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| 03:14.55 | stuNNed | it's not dnsmasq, something i installed set up bind9 to be a caching nameserver |
| 03:15.05 | stuNNed | \amethyst: seems worth is if the disc space is there |
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| 03:15.13 | \amethyst | yeah |
| 03:15.20 | stuNNed | works with bind9 |
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| 03:15.25 | \amethyst | but if you've got dnsmasq you might as well use that |
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| 03:15.43 | \amethyst | since dnsmasq in addition manages DNS entries for your dhcp clients |
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| 03:16.17 | \amethyst | Sashi: there is apparently an nginx module to authenticate against PAM |
| 03:16.20 | stuNNed | \amethyst: thanks going to look into it |
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| 03:16.31 | \amethyst | Sashi: http://web.iti.upv.es/~sto/nginx/ |
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| 03:16.50 | \amethyst | Sashi: if nginx suits your needs and you don't mind running it as root |
| 03:17.26 | trey___ | woo |
| 03:17.26 | trey___ | Hey guys, everytime i boot i get DHCPDISCOVER taking a really long time, is that a server or just my normal DHCP? how can i make it stop? |
| 03:17.43 | \amethyst | Sashi: I don't think it runs as root by default, though... without root you won't be able to authenticate against a shadow password database |
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| 03:18.04 | \amethyst | trey___: that is the DHCP client looking for a server |
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| 03:18.22 | Sashi | hmm |
| 03:18.25 | Sashi | ngix? |
| 03:18.31 | Sashi | is it as good or better |
| 03:18.32 | \amethyst | Sashi: it's another small web server |
| 03:18.34 | Sashi | than lighttpd |
| 03:18.38 | Sashi | does it do php? |
| 03:18.40 | \amethyst | Sashi: I don't know; I use apache |
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| 03:19.25 | \amethyst | Sashi: AFAIK neither lighttpd nor nginx do PHP... you have to run PHP as a CGI |
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| 03:19.46 | \amethyst | Sashi: oh, right... lighttpd does fastcgi |
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| 03:19.53 | \amethyst | Sashi: not sure if nginx does or not |
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| 03:20.04 | Sashi | it does do FCGI |
| 03:20.10 | Sashi | but it does not automaticalyl spawn them |
| 03:20.12 | optraz | what's the difference between ctime and mtime? |
| 03:20.38 | \amethyst | optraz: when you change the contents of the file, you change them both |
| 03:20.55 | \amethyst | optraz: rather, when you write to the file, you change them both |
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| 03:21.20 | \amethyst | optraz: when you change the file's metadata (chmod chown ln etc.) you change ctime but not mtime |
| 03:21.32 | optraz | \amethyst: when u change the permission of the file, u chagne the ctime but not mtime |
| 03:21.38 | optraz | yea |
| 03:21.39 | \amethyst | optraz: right |
| 03:21.39 | optraz | correct |
| 03:21.40 | optraz | thanks |
| 03:22.27 | \amethyst | so, ignoring touch(1) and utime(2), ctime will always be newer than or equal to mtime |
| 03:22.53 | trey___ | \amethyst, but it doesnt need to do that does it? im just on a DSL modem |
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| 03:23.08 | optraz | ok \amethyst |
| 03:23.36 | \amethyst | trey___: it's trying to find your IP address |
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| 03:23.55 | optraz | \amethyst: default ls -l show what time? |
| 03:23.58 | trey___ | how can i tell it to just 192.168.1.69 or w.e? |
| 03:24.02 | \amethyst | optraz: mtime |
| 03:24.13 | optraz | k |
| 03:24.19 | \amethyst | trey___: set up a static interface in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:24.23 | optraz | should really trick the user ;) |
| 03:24.47 | trey___ | thanks |
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| 03:42.17 | zawzey | Hi how do i use preseed file with apt-get or aptitude? The examples or docus I found are only for an automated debian install |
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| 03:47.18 | man_in_shack | preseed file? |
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| 03:54.31 | nsadmin | zawzey: what are you looking to do, and why with aptitude? |
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| 03:56.43 | zawzey | nsadmin: i'm doing up a deployment script that is looking to auto-install some packages with aptitude |
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| 03:57.09 | zawzey | nsadmin: and i want some default values for the packages selected using aptitude/dpkg |
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| 03:58.59 | wohdfoh | after editing the grub menu.lst can i just reboot or do i need to update something else? |
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| 03:59.24 | ethanw | wohdfoh: i just reboot |
| 03:59.35 | ethanw | assuming theres nothing outstanding |
| 04:00.34 | nsadmin | zawzey: interesting idea... you might want to post the question as a proposal |
| 04:00.50 | nsadmin | on debian-devel@lists.debian.org |
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| 04:01.05 | zawzey | hmm, well, chef and puppet is already doing it... |
| 04:01.19 | zawzey | nsadmin: so i thought it's something that's already supported in Debian :) |
| 04:01.31 | nsadmin | what's a chef and puppen? |
| 04:01.33 | nsadmin | t |
| 04:01.35 | zawzey | nsadmin: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/DebianPreseed |
| 04:02.31 | zawzey | nsadmin: Chef and Puppet are configration management systems that auto-setups and installs the system, configurations to a certain state |
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| 04:03.02 | nsadmin | oh, so your solution is there, then? |
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| 04:03.40 | zawzey | nsadmin: well, i'm actively using Chef, however, I want only the "autorespond" package install capability of chef/puppet in my own deployment script |
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| 04:04.25 | nsadmin | sounds like you'd have to refactor it |
| 04:04.26 | zawzey | nsadmin: Chef/Puppet makes it easy to do it, but I won't be using them for my active source code deployments. |
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| 04:05.01 | nsadmin | why not? if they do what you want, what's the need for more? |
| 04:05.02 | zawzey | nsadmin: well not exactly refactor, but look through the source codes of chef/puppet... thought there's a simple command line in dpkg or apt for doing it |
| 04:05.44 | zawzey | nsadmin: they're more suitable for system-wide deployments... while i'm using it more for source code level deployments |
| 04:05.48 | nsadmin | if there is, it would be in the reference docs |
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| 04:06.06 | nsadmin | if there is and it's not in the reference docs, that's a bug |
| 04:06.29 | zawzey | nsadmin: i see, guess chef, puppet have implemented this "feature" |
| 04:07.06 | nsadmin | well I might guess that, but I don't know for sure... you can check the docs and the source |
| 04:08.39 | IamSOG | adding modprobe xxx to /etc/init.d/rc.local will help auto run a module, right ? |
| 04:09.46 | nsadmin | IamSOG: you might want to look at man modprobe for other ways to do that, maybe look in FILES section |
| 04:10.11 | zawzey | nsadmin: Thanks.. will check it out! :) |
| 04:10.19 | IamSOG | oh, thanks nsadmin let me ask dpkg and see :D |
| 04:10.39 | IamSOG | !man modprobe |
| 04:10.50 | nsadmin | run that from your shell |
| 04:10.58 | nsadmin | without the ! |
| 04:11.23 | IamSOG | I did, dpkg ask me " are you using Windows?" so I though if I ask here, it will make a different :D |
| 04:11.44 | nsadmin | nono, from your -shell- |
| 04:11.58 | IamSOG | lol! I see |
| 04:12.01 | IamSOG | ok ok :P |
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| 04:15.20 | zawzey | Another question, I am trying to export some environment variables for all users. Tried addng export FOOBAR="xyz" to /etc/profile, but it doesn't work... |
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| 04:16.32 | spork985[Glossy] | DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0 |
| 04:16.43 | charitwo | !ops spork985[Glossy] DCC. exploit |
| 04:16.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: charitwo complains about: spork985[Glossy] DCC. exploit |
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| 04:17.05 | mikegriffin | is experimental OT? |
| 04:17.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | charitwo, probably more useful to tell #freenode |
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| 04:26.21 | IamSOG | Um... |
| 04:26.44 | IamSOG | My Sounds card won't work in Lenny but it works fine in ETCH, anyone have solution ? |
| 04:27.55 | \amethyst | IamSOG: I'm not a sound expert, but you might find more help if you tell us what card it is (lspci should tell you) |
| 04:28.37 | mischief | is it a good idea to chown everything in /var/www to www-data? |
| 04:28.47 | dondelelcaro | mischief: generally not |
| 04:28.54 | IamSOG | hi \amethyst oh, interseting, didn't know you can put \ in front of your nick |
| 04:29.02 | mischief | dondelelcaro, then what is best? |
| 04:29.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief, depends what you want to achieve |
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| 04:29.45 | IamSOG | \amethyst my sound card is a Yamaha YMF-754 |
| 04:29.52 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, i'm trying to secure my setup, i am thinking about giving some people accounts on my server |
| 04:29.52 | \amethyst | IamSOG: it was considered a letter in the Scandinavian equivalent of ASCII |
| 04:30.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief, tell them to use their public_html directories. |
| 04:30.29 | \amethyst | IamSOG: as I said, I'm not a sound expert myself, but somebody else may have the same card and be able to help |
| 04:30.32 | ootput | \amethyst: the backslash? |
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| 04:30.54 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, but what about for vhosts instead? |
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| 04:31.04 | mischief | i have vhosts, not just /var/www as httpd's document root |
| 04:31.44 | IamSOG | thanks \amethyst |
| 04:31.57 | \amethyst | ootput: yes, Ø in Norwegian and Danish and Ö in swedish |
| 04:32.05 | IamSOG | My Sounds card (Yamaha YMF-754) won't work in Lenny but it works fine in ETCH, anyone have solution ? |
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| 04:32.31 | \amethyst | ootput: likewise []{|} |
| 04:32.37 | ootput | IamSOG: there's http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
| 04:33.05 | IamSOG | thanks ootput |
| 04:33.08 | IamSOG | click |
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| 04:33.32 | \amethyst | ootput: it's the same reason backslash looks like ¥ on Japanese Windows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_646 |
| 04:34.07 | ootput | \amethyst: heh, i always assumed you chose the backslash to make a unique tab-complete |
| 04:34.51 | CoolCold | weird question |
| 04:35.01 | \amethyst | ootput: and to find bugs in badly-written nick completion scripts :) |
| 04:35.14 | CoolCold | i have package for amd64, so i decided to make it on i386 |
| 04:35.56 | CoolCold | did dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -sa -rfakeroot - all is ok except one - diff.gz differs |
| 04:36.13 | CoolCold | it has the same size and even data, but in another order |
| 04:36.50 | CoolCold | u guess problem is in way dpkg/diff creates unified diff.. |
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| 04:43.25 | IamSOG | looks like it will take some work to get the driver of the sound card fix :o |
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| 04:44.05 | hoohah | hello. what's the easiest way to determine the distro? will different distros have the same file? |
| 04:44.21 | hoohah | say something in common with gentoo and debian |
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| 04:45.03 | Kamping_Kaiser | lsb_release , but thats optional on both |
| 04:45.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | (well... I assume its optional on gentoo...) |
| 04:45.43 | ootput | perhaps /etc/issue? |
| 04:46.52 | ootput | perhaps you should also ask in #gentoo |
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| 04:51.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | grins. Guess the easiest way to differ between Gentoo and Debian would be the appearance of dpkg+portage |
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| 04:53.08 | michela | have anyone sucessfully worked with ifb on any debian release? |
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| 04:55.43 | trelane | is there a way to identify non-free packages with aptitude? I'm preparing for a 5.0 upgrade and want to see if I can get down to main only. |
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| 05:03.16 | ootput | Kamping_Kaiser: true. I guess checking for the existence of either emerge or dpkg bins |
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| 05:04.34 | cellofellow | I know I've bumped into it somewhere, but where is the complete documentation of aptitudes advanced search expressions? It's not in the manpage (at least the manpage I'm looking at) and google doesn't help. |
| 05:05.09 | mischief | cellofellow, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
| 05:05.23 | cellofellow | oh, ok |
| 05:05.36 | cellofellow | from that, maybe it's in the /usr/share/doc stuff? |
| 05:06.02 | cellofellow | mischief: can you kindly make that into a tinyurl? I'm at the console and don't want to type all that. |
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| 05:06.31 | mischief | cellofellow, http://snipr.com/iuk59 |
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| 05:07.00 | cellofellow | thanks |
| 05:07.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | aptitude-doc-en perhaps |
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| 05:12.23 | owen1 | how to clean the terminal so even shift+pgdown will not scroll up? (clear command doesn't do it) |
| 05:12.36 | owen1 | shift+pgup |
| 05:13.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | 'reset' might |
| 05:13.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | does sound like a rather terminal emulator specific question though. (otherwise simply switching ttys would work) |
| 05:14.33 | cellofellow | ok, with aptitude how would I say "aptitude reinstall foopackage" and everything foopackage depends on? |
| 05:14.38 | owen1 | Kamping_Kaiser: reset works. thanks |
| 05:14.55 | Kamping_Kaiser | owen1, nice. np. |
| 05:15.02 | cellofellow | *not* everything that depends on foopackage which would be ~Dfoopackage (I think). |
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| 05:15.56 | cellofellow | just relizes that that would have to be recursive and could possibly include half the packages on the system. |
| 05:15.57 | nsadmin | cellofellow that could get as deep as reinstalling libc... |
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| 05:16.09 | cellofellow | maybe just one layer? |
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| 05:16.42 | cellofellow | if only the reinstall function was available in the aptitude gui |
| 05:16.44 | nsadmin | if you want one layer, you could find the packages and do that |
| 05:17.04 | cellofellow | nsadmin: of course, but how do I find the packages? right them down on a piece of notepaper? |
| 05:17.35 | nsadmin | !depends emacs |
| 05:17.42 | cellofellow | ah, ok |
| 05:17.55 | cellofellow | wait, that still goes the wrong direction |
| 05:18.00 | nsadmin | since the bot can do that, there must be a database somewhere |
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| 05:18.18 | dpkg | emacs: depends on emacs22 | emacs22-gtk | emacs22-nox |
| 05:18.24 | nsadmin | no, that's the direction you're asking for |
| 05:18.27 | cellofellow | ok |
| 05:18.58 | cellofellow | (still, how do I get that into aptitude without using a pencil?) |
| 05:19.09 | cellofellow | I'm at the console and copy/paste isn't working. |
| 05:19.31 | nsadmin | then perhaps your first problem you should be working on is getting that working |
| 05:19.34 | Sazpaimon_ | so I know this isnt the right channel to ask but you guys are all i ever turn to when I need a question, plus its general knowlege |
| 05:19.55 | Sazpaimon_ | i know trunk is the main development branch, and tags is where relases go, but what is branches? |
| 05:20.21 | cellofellow | Sazpaimon_: working on features one at a time. Or you can have stable/testing/development branches. |
| 05:20.22 | Sazpaimon_ | Im pretty sure branches are any urgently needed code changes to the current stable release. |
| 05:20.42 | Sazpaimon_ | ah I see |
| 05:21.18 | Sazpaimon_ | see, i always treated branches as any bugfixes to the current stable release without having to release a new version |
| 05:21.29 | nsadmin | Sazpaimon_ you don't consider the best venue to pose a question? |
| 05:21.47 | Sazpaimon_ | nsadmin, well, it isn't Debian related |
| 05:22.00 | cellofellow | in other words, offtopic |
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| 05:23.12 | nsadmin | still it's kinda interesting the way developers using git look at branches |
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| 05:24.54 | cellofellow | I've been toying with bazaar and in that everything is a branch. |
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| 05:25.10 | cellofellow | no proper trunk (by name), just the branch that other branches branch. |
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| 05:25.22 | cellofellow | gee, mixing verb and noun versions of the word branch is confusing. |
| 05:25.38 | nsadmin | like Michelle Branch? |
| 05:26.02 | maximi89 | like Michelle Bachelet :O |
| 05:26.18 | ootput | ew. Pop |
| 05:26.20 | marvil07 | I have a propietary image format, I want to decode it(have it bmp version too), what tools do you suggest to use(appart from hd)? |
| 05:26.22 | Sazpaimon_ | I just converted my bazaar-based project to my own SVN server |
| 05:26.30 | Sazpaimon_ | i mean, I like bazaar, but I can't stand launchpad |
| 05:26.42 | cellofellow | so, use something else, SF has bzr now too. |
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| 05:26.47 | maximi89 | hi, who is the maintainer of bluez-gnome? |
| 05:26.59 | Sazpaimon_ | really? since when? |
| 05:27.45 | Sazpaimon_ | (i was actually thinking of setting up my own private bzr server, but since I have a mod_dav_svn server already set up I took the easy route) |
| 05:28.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | maximi89, what does the package tell you? |
| 05:28.11 | nsadmin | the prez of chile? |
| 05:28.31 | dondelelcaro | maximi89: apt-cache show bluez-gnome; look at the Maintainer: field |
| 05:28.45 | nsadmin | maximi89: /msg dpkg maint bluez-gnome |
| 05:28.56 | Sazpaimon_ | anyway thanks for the help, I'll stop this off topicness now |
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| 05:30.19 | nsadmin | dondelelcaro's is better since it doesn't bug the bot |
| 05:30.31 | cellofellow | Sazpaimon_: seeing as I much prefer cherokee to apache I'm now considering svn to be not an option (at least svn over webdav). |
| 05:30.35 | nsadmin | the bot is slow anyway :) |
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| 05:30.49 | cellofellow | Basically the one feature cherokee lacks is webdav, but for what it does have it rocks. |
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| 05:31.49 | Sazpaimon_ | yes, cherokee is very nice |
| 05:31.51 | cellofellow | Sazpaimon_: why not make your own bzr server? in the simplest usage it's just straight up sftp. |
| 05:32.36 | Sazpaimon_ | in the near future, maybe, but for now my current svn and websbvn setup is sufficient |
| 05:32.56 | simonrvn | gets along fine with git and lighttpd |
| 05:33.27 | nsadmin | while I've never used it, I'd probably put my money on git |
| 05:33.28 | codeshepherd_ | I added one of my scripts to bootup by update-rc.d mountec2vol start 15 2 3 4 5 . start 47 S . start 35 0 1 6 . ....... now the script gets executed twice during boot up.. once before entering run level 4 and once after entering runlevel 4... can anyone explain what makes it to get executed before run level 4 ? |
| 05:33.40 | Sazpaimon_ | lighttpd is my httpd of choice, but I like how cherokee can keep up with the times |
| 05:34.08 | cellofellow | I've had enough with SVN. Used to use it locally to manage my school papers (in latex). Next time, bzr all the way. |
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| 05:34.18 | cellofellow | SVN has too much overhead for that. |
| 05:34.24 | nsadmin | codeshepherd_: look into what runlevel 1 is |
| 05:35.01 | simonrvn | wonders wtf codeshepherd_ is trying to do |
| 05:35.09 | codeshepherd_ | nsadmin: so it boots into runlevel 1 before switching to runlevel 4 ? |
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| 05:35.59 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: S, actually. |
| 05:36.00 | cellofellow | I thought runlevel 1 was only used when you put 1 or single on the kernel arguments. |
| 05:36.02 | nsadmin | also are you -starting- it in 0 and 6? |
| 05:36.17 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: you're starting it at 47 in S, which is always run. |
| 05:36.33 | cellofellow | S, then 2, then eventually 6 or 0. |
| 05:36.55 | codeshepherd_ | dondelelcaro: so I just have to remove it from S ? |
| 05:37.04 | codeshepherd_ | dondelelcaro: i though S is single user mode .. |
| 05:37.11 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: no. S is system startup |
| 05:37.21 | cellofellow | S is startup |
| 05:37.24 | cellofellow | 1 is single-user |
| 05:37.37 | codeshepherd_ | ok.. so it is enough if I put it in S alone then.. |
| 05:37.52 | codeshepherd_ | if S gets executed on everyboot up |
| 05:38.07 | nsadmin | codeshepherd_: why are you starting it when the system gets restarted or halted? |
| 05:38.21 | cellofellow | generally keep things out of S and put them in the desired runlevel. |
| 05:38.47 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: in other words why in 6 or 0? |
| 05:38.47 | nsadmin | unless you need it that early, or before something else that happens in S |
| 05:39.20 | nsadmin | looks like he doesn't like answering questions... |
| 05:39.32 | cellofellow | we've flooded him |
| 05:39.34 | codeshepherd_ | nsadmin: this is a partition that has mysql data directory.. and webroot.. so i need them before mysql and webserver starts |
| 05:39.35 | codeshepherd_ | cellofellow: ^ |
| 05:39.35 | codeshepherd_ | so i will remove them from S and put it in all runlevels before mysql and webserver nsadmin cellofellow |
| 05:39.44 | codeshepherd_ | cellofellow: 6 and 0 was just a mistake.. i didn't know what i was doing |
| 05:40.05 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: wait, why in the world aren't you mounting this partition via fstab? |
| 05:40.23 | nsadmin | this is a mount?! |
| 05:40.29 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: you're mounting a partition? why not use fstab? |
| 05:40.29 | cellofellow | if it's a fuse partition this might make sense, actually |
| 05:40.30 | codeshepherd_ | i have answered every question from you guys.. nsadmin dondelelcaro |
| 05:40.39 | codeshepherd_ | yes this is mount nsadmin |
| 05:40.43 | nsadmin | oh, you have now :) |
| 05:40.53 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: man fstab |
| 05:40.55 | codeshepherd_ | this is xfs partition cellofellow |
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| 05:41.20 | codeshepherd_ | cellofellow: i can use fstab... becuase i have to attach the device to my ec2 to instance before i mount it |
| 05:41.23 | nsadmin | oh, yeah, this is not the way to do that :) /etc/fstab is |
| 05:41.27 | codeshepherd_ | cant use fstab cellofellow |
| 05:41.28 | cellofellow | xfs mounts fine when in fstab |
| 05:41.38 | \amethyst | codeshepherd_: you can, you just use noauto |
| 05:41.45 | codeshepherd_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.45 | cellofellow | oh, this is an ec2 issue why you can't fstab? |
| 05:42.07 | cellofellow | got it |
| 05:42.09 | codeshepherd_ | cellofellow: because the volume has to be attached to this instance before it gets mounted .. |
| 05:42.32 | nsadmin | you could factor |
| 05:42.32 | cellofellow | so, put it in fstab with noauto, then have it mount a few minutes later using rc.local. |
| 05:42.36 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: well, you still want it in /etc/fstab; just add a bit of a script to attach the physical volumes before mountall gets mounted |
| 05:42.39 | codeshepherd_ | so i need a script to that attaches the volume before it mounts.. cellofellow nsadmin |
| 05:42.42 | cellofellow | I know, I've used EC2. |
| 05:42.43 | dondelelcaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.04 | codeshepherd_ | cellofellow: i like said before rc.local will be late.. since mysql and nginx will start before that.. |
| 05:43.04 | dondelelcaro | s/mounted$/called/ |
| 05:43.38 | nsadmin | you can also insert a script that just does the attach and have that run before mounting |
| 05:43.41 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: not if you put rc.local before mysql and nginx in the rc2.d |
| 05:44.21 | cellofellow | actually, he's probably right to put this in rcS.d |
| 05:44.32 | codeshepherd_ | rc2.d is runlevel 2 right ? .. will it get executed when i start runlevel 4 ? |
| 05:44.33 | \amethyst | yeah, put it in rcS.d before S35mountall.sh |
| 05:44.36 | cellofellow | that might work |
| 05:44.55 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: no |
| 05:44.56 | nsadmin | well let's see... |
| 05:45.04 | nsadmin | what do you need to do the attaching? |
| 05:45.05 | dondelelcaro | codeshepherd_: unless it's also symlinked in rc4.d |
| 05:45.10 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: um, what runlevel is the default? I thought 2 was the default, or have I been switching between debian and ubuntu too much? |
| 05:45.19 | codeshepherd_ | 4 is the default |
| 05:45.30 | cellofellow | that should be fine with the ec2 tools |
| 05:45.36 | nsadmin | 2 is debian's |
| 05:45.51 | codeshepherd_ | i am on squeeze.. its 4 by default here |
| 05:45.55 | cellofellow | huh |
| 05:46.09 | nsadmin | interesting... why would they change that? or did you? |
| 05:46.20 | codeshepherd_ | no i did not change anything |
| 05:46.27 | cellofellow | wait, you're using squeeze on an EC2 (most likely production) server? |
| 05:46.31 | dondelelcaro | the default is still 2; we haven't changed it |
| 05:46.31 | nsadmin | and why to 4? it's like in the middle :) |
| 05:46.35 | \amethyst | codeshepherd_: in rcS.d would probably be best (before mountall if possible), that way it gets mounted in single-user mode before any multiuser runlevel |
| 05:46.48 | codeshepherd_ | yes this will become production server soon cellofellow |
| 05:46.52 | cellofellow | ec2 is too expensive for development servers |
| 05:47.12 | nsadmin | what's a ec2 anyway? |
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| 05:47.29 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: it's amazon's cloud computing service |
| 05:47.32 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: rcS.d is simplest too. just have it use the ec2 command line tools to attach the ebs volume and them mount it. |
| 05:47.54 | cellofellow | nsadmin: it's xen with a twist, on amazons datacenter. |
| 05:48.11 | cellofellow | Elastic Cloud Computing is what EC2 stands for. |
| 05:48.12 | codeshepherd_ | so i just put it in rcS.d .. and remove from all other runlevels ? cellofellow \amethyst ... |
| 05:48.34 | codeshepherd_ | nsadmin: EC2 is the cloud server amazon offers |
| 05:48.40 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: correct |
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| 05:49.10 | codeshepherd_ | ok.. how do i revert update-rc.d mountec2vol start 15 2 3 4 5 . start 47 S . start 35 0 1 6 . |
| 05:49.26 | cellofellow | I tried running a website off of EC2 but it was just too expensive. If they had a way to turn off a machine when not in use and start it up again when called that would be nice. |
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| 05:49.42 | cellofellow | codeshepherd_: I say manually edit the symlinks. |
| 05:50.03 | codeshepherd_ | ok.. will do so cellofellow |
| 05:51.07 | cellofellow | I know EC2 is all hyped as being cheap, but that's when compared to dedicated hosted servers. An OpenVZ vps is cheaper, and shared hosting, not to mention running your own iron. |
| 05:51.17 | nsadmin | wonders who has the worse chance to become prez.. frank zappa, ralph nader or rms... |
| 05:51.26 | cellofellow | I opted for OpenVZ. |
| 05:52.02 | cellofellow | thinks that name recognition puts rms in the bottom of that barrel. |
| 05:52.05 | simonrvn | runs his own "iron" |
| 05:52.28 | cellofellow | :) |
| 05:52.37 | cellofellow | if I had faster internet I would too. |
| 05:52.50 | cellofellow | though my server died last week, so it wouldn't have been pretty |
| 05:53.21 | nsadmin | there are advantages to letting someone do it for you |
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| 05:54.12 | codeshepherd_ | cellofellow: ec2 gets cheaper when you have to scale .. if you are 3+ servers outside.. moving to ec2 might make sense |
| 05:54.22 | cellofellow | maybe rms will run for president of sweden on the pirate party ticket. |
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| 05:56.15 | cellofellow | hey, I'm just a college kid who was setting up a server for a military friend. Cash is tight. |
| 05:56.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | o_0 |
| 05:56.56 | ootput | legitimate |
| 05:57.27 | cellofellow | he's not properly in the military but will be going through Marine Corps training soon. |
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| 06:00.05 | ootput | server to log frags? |
| 06:00.18 | ajavid | HAIRCUT OF THE 7 YR OLD ABORIGINAL BOY IS UNNACCEPTABLE!! |
| 06:00.47 | nsadmin | then we make HIM president |
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| 06:02.25 | ajavid | ootput, don't do that aain. |
| 06:02.27 | ajavid | again*. |
| 06:02.50 | ajavid | !ping |
| 06:02.50 | dpkg | Yes, ajavid, you are online. |
| 06:03.07 | cellofellow | :( aptitude is getting a SIGABRT when I try to play minesweeper |
| 06:03.33 | frankS2 | you should try winesweeper |
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| 06:03.56 | cellofellow | no gui, and can |
| 06:04.09 | cellofellow | and don't think I can install the bsd games at this moment |
| 06:04.27 | cellofellow | don't have nethack installed either which is odd. |
| 06:05.07 | SNow | hi, where is directadmins |
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| 06:05.10 | SNow | support channel irc |
| 06:05.12 | SNow | admins |
| 06:05.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | SNow, what? |
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| 06:07.05 | SNow | I need to add custom php.ini value |
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| 06:07.10 | SNow | to directadmins 1 user |
| 06:07.14 | SNow | and I can't find where to do it |
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| 06:08.23 | ootput | SNow: /usr/local/lib/php.ini |
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| 06:09.56 | SNow | to set custom charset for one particular user? |
| 06:09.57 | Shtl | i hve amule installed on lenny, its connected to server but showing yellow arrow, saying its filrewalled, so how to open amule port in firewall of lenny? |
| 06:10.50 | ootput | Shtl: there is no default firewall policy in Lenny. You'd need to figure out how to do port-forwarding at the router level |
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| 06:12.03 | Shtl | yaa, its do not enable any firewall by default, but is any way to open specific ports in firewall |
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| 06:17.19 | zepho | apt-get was killed, after 'dpkg --configure -a', it complains that var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked; how do i unlock it? |
| 06:19.48 | mazzanet | grrr |
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| 06:21.52 | mazzanet | my last apt upgrade upgraded half of kde to 4.2 and left some at 3.5 and removed some others |
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| 06:22.54 | codeshepherd_ | i have mountec2vol added to rcS.d ... however when the halt .. the device doesn't get un- mounted .. and rcS.d doesn't have any kill scripts either.. cellofellow: \amethyst dondelelcaro nsadmin |
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| 06:41.33 | IamSOG | um... after running alsaconf found my yamaha sound card, and finished set up, restart, but stil won't work :o I think LennY don't like me :o |
| 06:42.32 | larswey | could anyone help me with UTF-8 support in lighttpd? i've asked in their chan and googled but no solution found |
| 06:43.27 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I have been looking into building a Debian package and found http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-start.en.html but it says "This revision of this document has been updated for the packages in Debian 2.2 (`potato') and 3.0 (`woody'). " So what about Etch and Lenny? Is there a up to date guide somewhere? |
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| 06:46.24 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, did the card work before you restarted? |
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| 06:46.47 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, And what sound card did you check the database to see if others have problems? |
| 06:46.49 | IamSOG | Gokee2 no, it doesn't, but it work in ETCH |
| 06:46.55 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, I see |
| 06:47.14 | IamSOG | my sound card is a Yamaha YMF-754, quite very old :D almost 10 years, I think, laptop build in |
| 06:47.39 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, Does alsaconfig have mixers and such for the sound card or just have no card found? |
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| 06:48.19 | IamSOG | Gokee2 it alsaconfig found the card correctly, but when I go back to Genome it doesn't seems to detect |
| 06:49.05 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, So if you play though something like mplayer does it drop sound or pretend to play to your sound card just without sound? |
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| 06:49.38 | IamSOG | I haven't try it on Mplayer, don't have sound files now, I just reinstall to Lenny :D |
| 06:49.43 | \amethyst | IamSOG: run gnome-sound-properties (System -> Preferences -> Sound) and see what device Gnome is using |
| 06:50.11 | \amethyst | IamSOG: it might be trying to use esd or pulseaudio or something |
| 06:50.16 | IamSOG | wait, let me get my laptop again, I put it in the other room... |
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| 06:51.40 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, You have a card like that in a laptop? I thought it was a nice pci card with midi out and stuff.... |
| 06:52.13 | IamSOG | no Gokee2 it's not, it's a build in card in a laptop :D |
| 06:52.24 | IamSOG | I am trying to get to the other room, but I locked myself out... damn it |
| 06:52.38 | Gokee2 | IamSOG, lol :) |
| 06:52.59 | IamSOG | ya, that room have AC on... um.... brb gonna find the keys |
| 06:53.14 | \amethyst | Gokee2: YMF-754 is a chip, not necessarily a specific card |
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| 06:55.37 | tuv | what netbooks are known to work well with debian? |
| 06:56.32 | Gokee2 | \amethyst, Ya, I just ran into the nice card on my search.... :) |
| 06:57.01 | Gokee2 | \amethyst, You don`t know where I can find a recent manual on building a Debian package do you? |
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| 06:58.12 | \amethyst | Gokee2: man dpkg-buildpackage and possibly man pbuilder |
| 06:58.37 | \amethyst | Gokee2: (packages dpkg-dev and pbuilder) |
| 06:58.50 | \amethyst | Gokee2: though generally I just do fakeroot ./debian/rules binary |
| 07:00.25 | Gokee2 | \amethyst, Hmm, I was looking for a more... Readable thing then a man page but I will give it a look :) |
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| 07:01.22 | \amethyst | Gokee2: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-build.en.html |
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| 07:02.33 | stuNNed | anyone using selinux on unstable? |
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| 07:04.27 | Gokee2 | \amethyst, Ok, Is everything still the same in Lenny and such as in the maint-guide? It say`s its not been updated since woody |
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| 07:07.24 | safruhani | hi, can i add an account via pop3/smtp on icedove? |
| 07:08.13 | \amethyst | Gokee2: huh? Says 5 June 2008 here |
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| 07:10.39 | \amethyst | Gokee2: which, granted, is pre-Lenny-release, but everything is likely to work the same |
| 07:10.58 | Gokee2 | \amethyst, Hmmm I had been looking at the first page.... Why does it start off saying "Copyright © 1998-2002 Josip Rodin. Copyright © 2005-2007 Osamu Aoki. " talk about being updated for woody in the first section and then have up to date content in the latter chapters? O well, thanks for pointing out it IS up to date in the later places |
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| 07:12.12 | Gokee2 | \amethyst, Hmm Etch to Lenny is not a huge difference to me, skipping two versions is a little worrisome when reading documentation though |
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| 07:12.31 | \amethyst | Gokee2: there may be some out of date things, but probably rather special cases and at that point you maybe should be reeding policy :) |
| 07:13.14 | Gokee2 | Heh, I just plan to build my package and use it, I might setup a repository if I am feeling adventures |
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| 07:13.57 | Gokee2 | Although the policy does have some good stuff in it |
| 07:14.14 | Gokee2 | I just read about "Binary Dependencies - Depends, Recommends, Suggests, Enhances, Pre-Depends" |
| 07:16.18 | Gokee2 | Anyway its bed time for me, thanks for the help \amethyst |
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| 07:18.53 | Zenox | One of the harddrives in my raid5 array seems to have malfunctioned |
| 07:18.55 | Zenox | md0 : active raid5 sdb1[0] sde1[4](F) sdd1[2] sdc1[1] |
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| 07:19.39 | Zenox | What should I do to find out more (i don't think they are SMART-capable even though they are SATA2, but unsure) |
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| 07:31.22 | soundman | what package contains ogg-tools such as the oggenc executable? |
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| 07:31.40 | azeem_ | soundman: /msg dpkg search |
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| 07:32.26 | soundman | azeem_: dpkg isnt finding anything, neither is aptitude or apt-cache |
| 07:32.42 | soundman | azeem_: i know i have used those tools on debian machines, just cant find them |
| 07:33.21 | avu | soundman, re-read that dpkg factoid |
| 07:33.42 | avu | soundman, when you know the name of the executable/file you want, there's apt-file to find the corresponding package |
| 07:33.52 | avu | (which the factoid mentions) |
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| 07:35.15 | azeem | soundman: dpkg is the channel bo |
| 07:35.17 | azeem | t |
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| 07:35.53 | soundman | azeem: im aware of that |
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| 07:40.32 | hoohah | hello i'm using debian lenny 64bit. Is there a way to list packages that still require 32bit libs? I'd like to check and remove them |
| 07:40.43 | hoohah | list *installed packages |
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| 07:43.26 | hoohah | i guess fastest way is try to remove the 32bit libs, and see if aptitude complains |
| 07:43.29 | hoohah | hm |
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| 07:47.06 | hoohah | hm, no, removing i32-libs doesn't list broken deps from other packages besides i32-* |
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| 07:47.35 | aFRICKENamerican | hiya ! |
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| 07:51.27 | yomm | Hi all ! Is there a dedicated Debian_PPC Channel ? |
| 07:52.21 | shepherd | yomm: Looks like there's something in #debian-ppc |
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| 07:53.35 | yomm | thank you shepherd |
| 07:53.46 | shepherd | yup ^^ |
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| 08:00.46 | mazzanet | wow |
| 08:00.55 | mazzanet | kde 4.2 is like a cross between osx and win7 |
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| 08:18.21 | root__ | fuck |
| 08:18.22 | root__ | fuck |
| 08:18.28 | stuNNed | lol :P |
| 08:18.28 | root__ | fuck |
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| 08:18.39 | stuNNed | must be frustrated |
| 08:18.56 | Crazy_Hopper | must be idiot |
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| 08:19.54 | Anubis | hi guys |
| 08:20.19 | Anubis | i have a problem with clamav/amavisd-new on my debian box |
| 08:20.30 | Anubis | !pastebin |
| 08:20.30 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 08:22.03 | Anubis | here you can see what problem i have :http://paste.debian.net/37210/ |
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| 08:23.07 | stuNNed | Anubis: run dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 08:23.20 | Anubis | ok. i will try |
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| 08:27.26 | Anubis | stunned: should i mention the package name ? |
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| 08:34.35 | Stummvoll | hoi, kurze Frage: Wenn ich eine Minimalinstallation von Debian habe, auf der ich X11 nachinstalliert habe, wie bekomme ich es hin, dass X beim booten automatisch gestartet wird? Gibts dafür ein Paket? |
| 08:35.14 | Stummvoll | also mir fallen zwar ein paar möglichkeiten ein, aber die kommen mir nicht wirklich sauber vor |
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| 08:35.50 | caraconan | Hi. A FAI question: it's possible to install fai-server on a squeeze machine and prepair a .iso image to install another squeeze machine? |
| 08:35.57 | Stummvoll | oh, false chan, sorry |
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| 08:39.14 | prophet | false chan? hreheh |
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| 08:41.04 | sylarrr | say, if I accidentally lvreduce, will lvextend fix it? |
| 08:41.34 | sylarrr | or os the underlying fs toast |
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| 08:41.39 | sylarrr | or is |
| 08:42.24 | edoreld_ | I'm getting and error -> W: GPG error: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de lenny Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DC13E54EAB9B66FD <- I've been told to use apt-key to add the key but I'm not sure how would I go about doing that...my question is..how would I go about doing that :)? |
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| 08:42.50 | ootput | first port of call: google |
| 08:43.28 | caraconan | <edoreld_> gpg -a --recv-keys AB9B66FD; gpg -a --export AB9B66FD | apt-key add - |
| 08:43.31 | caraconan | Launch this |
| 08:43.48 | caraconan | I'm now installing fai too. Goog luck :) |
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| 08:44.19 | edoreld | caraconan: already did that, the line appears when I run fai-setup :/ |
| 08:44.27 | edoreld | not when I do an apt-get update |
| 08:44.47 | sylarrr | god damn resize2fs |
| 08:44.56 | caraconan | Well, it's only a warning. Don't worry about |
| 08:46.09 | edoreld | hmm ok, I'll see if it works with that warning :( |
| 08:46.17 | edoreld | not :( but :/ << :) |
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| 08:55.47 | omid8bimo | hey guys, i'm trying to install debian from pxe boot and load image/kernel fro tftp, then install from nfs mount |
| 08:55.54 | omid8bimo | tftp and pxe working good |
| 08:55.59 | omid8bimo | i load the kernel and image |
| 08:56.10 | omid8bimo | but after lang selection and network detection |
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| 08:56.21 | omid8bimo | it goes to ftp mirror selection |
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| 08:58.04 | simNIX | whats prob with that ? |
| 08:58.22 | simNIX | ow ftp selection |
| 08:58.25 | simNIX | if ya want nfs |
| 08:58.45 | simNIX | did you use preseed file or kernel boot line options to tell it so ? |
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| 09:01.47 | bzed | omid8bimo: normal. |
| 09:01.59 | bzed | omid8bimo: it needs to load installer modules from the network |
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| 09:02.40 | omid8bimo | simNIX: how can i do that? and what is preseed file? |
| 09:02.48 | JJOliver | Hi peeps, quick question. I'm just about to reformat this puter to latest lenny release. I also haev an NTFS drive that I need to read and burn dvd's from (broken xp instal) |
| 09:02.53 | omid8bimo | bzed: what do you mean? |
| 09:02.53 | JJOliver | Can lenny read NTFS drives? |
| 09:03.07 | omid8bimo | JJOliver: yup |
| 09:03.17 | JJOliver | omid8bimo: Thanks |
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| 09:04.38 | omid8bimo | simNIX: can u point me to any doc about kernel boot line options or preseed file? |
| 09:06.10 | simNIX | omid8bimo, a preseed file is simply put an answerfile for the installer - it can be pointed to from the line that boots the kernel - it makes here that installation goes fully (or partialy) unattended. But becouse networking has to be up before that answer file can be downloaded some answers to questions asked by installer before networking is up I answer on kernel line - ill try to relocate the example preseed I used as base ... |
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| 09:07.37 | simNIX | its at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/example-preseed.txt |
| 09:07.44 | simNIX | also I recomend a google for |
| 09:07.51 | simNIX | debian preseed |
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| 09:08.19 | simNIX | I've put my preseeds on a local http server |
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| 09:08.30 | simNIX | to be grabbed by installer |
| 09:08.46 | simNIX | ill pastebin my pxelinux kernel line ... |
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| 09:11.54 | omid8bimo | simNIX: thanks, i'll read them |
| 09:12.36 | simNIX | try http://pastebin.ca/1436010 |
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| 09:13.01 | simNIX | I asume you dont want dutch (nl) and maybe not us keyboard |
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| 09:13.10 | simNIX | but thats easely modified |
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| 09:14.19 | simNIX | also spot http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 - specificly about debconf-get-selections |
| 09:14.46 | simNIX | with it you could install manual and then make base answerfile for all packages installed till then |
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| 09:15.32 | simNIX | also on rors be aware that Alt+Fx can make you switch to a screen ininstall that show maybe more on what eror'ed |
| 09:15.46 | simNIX | rors=errors |
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| 09:16.21 | simNIX | its a real asset saving me a great many time reapeting things manauly |
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| 09:17.35 | simNIX | I do have setup a local deban i386 mirror (takes about 20Gb) so I can install faster and dont have to download over and over from the internet - I find apt-mirror the nicest tools to mirror Debian |
| 09:17.54 | simNIX | hope this helps |
| 09:18.05 | simNIX | i gootta go do some work in other room |
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| 09:19.06 | Pascal_1 | hello |
| 09:19.09 | omid8bimo | simNIX: sure |
| 09:19.15 | omid8bimo | simNIX: thanks |
| 09:19.21 | simNIX | yw |
| 09:19.32 | Pascal_1 | i'm using the software monit, this software every night give me those informations : |
| 09:19.36 | Pascal_1 | loadavg(5min) of 2.3 matches resource limit [loadavg(5min)>2.0] |
| 09:19.38 | Pascal_1 | and some time cpu usage (user> 70% |
| 09:19.41 | Pascal_1 | then i made some test (script etc...) to see which process was responsible of this situation. |
| 09:19.44 | Pascal_1 | i cant see anything |
| 09:19.46 | Pascal_1 | anybody coud help me? |
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| 09:24.28 | adb | file a bug report, if not already exist |
| 09:24.39 | Pascal_1 | adb: it's for me ? |
| 09:24.46 | adb | oui |
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| 09:25.00 | Pascal_1 | groumf you speak french !! |
| 09:25.00 | adb | yes |
| 09:25.31 | soundman | how can i disable gdm from starting on boot? something like "mv /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/init.d-stopped/gdm" ? |
| 09:25.47 | avtobiff | soundman, update-rc.d |
| 09:25.56 | soundman | avtobiff: ? |
| 09:26.12 | avtobiff | soundman, gdm is run from /etc/rcX.d where symlinks to /etc/init.d exist |
| 09:26.22 | avtobiff | soundman, update-rc.d can alter these symlinks |
| 09:26.27 | soundman | avtobiff: ah thanks |
| 09:26.30 | avtobiff | (it is a program) |
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| 09:27.34 | soundman | avtobiff: perfect thank you |
| 09:27.39 | soundman | \quit |
| 09:27.41 | soundman | err |
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| 09:35.10 | soundman | the line in playing through the speakers is fine but arecord just captures quiet static, what could cause that? |
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| 09:35.51 | Pascal_1 | any idea for my problem ? |
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| 09:42.43 | Lish | if i want to help developers for fast repair,it could be possible? only by sending a report of my software's condition ? |
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| 09:44.30 | petemc | Lish: you mean send a patch? im sure that would be welsome |
| 09:44.36 | petemc | s/so/co/ |
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| 09:46.25 | owen1 | is there terminal-based app that can play audio file without outputing text to the terminal? |
| 09:47.00 | adb | moc ? |
| 09:47.07 | Lish | owen1: mpd is good:P mpd --playlist |grep song:P |
| 09:47.10 | amphi | owen1: you can use moc, and detach it |
| 09:47.23 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:47.35 | owen1 | Guerin: let me try! |
| 09:48.13 | Guerin | owen1: you'll probably need to redirect stderr as well as stdout |
| 09:48.16 | Lish | petemc: i don't get it what do you mean patch! |
| 09:48.22 | Guerin | so 2&1> |
| 09:48.29 | Guerin | bah |
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| 09:49.14 | Lish | by* patch* |
| 09:49.15 | owen1 | Guerin: i get a few lines: mplayer: could not connect to socket |
| 09:49.21 | Guerin | owen1: i mean, add 2>&1 |
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| 09:49.25 | owen1 | mplayer: No such file or directory |
| 09:49.35 | owen1 | Guerin: let me see.. |
| 09:49.39 | Guerin | owen1: yeah, errors. |
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| 09:49.56 | owen1 | Guerin: yes! |
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| 09:50.33 | owen1 | Guerin: the reason i need this with irssi. i want to hear audio file instead of the terrible system beep. |
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| 09:51.08 | creature_ | how do you install grub to USB harddrive? |
| 09:51.46 | mikexcr | who's won Champions League? |
| 09:52.16 | mikexcr | sorry, today... |
| 09:52.17 | mikexcr | :/ |
| 09:52.47 | creature_ | grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda. Check your device.map. |
| 09:52.58 | creature_ | what the fuck? |
| 09:53.04 | creature_ | the device is in the device.map |
| 09:53.47 | streuner_ | mikejf_: Barca, who else? |
| 09:54.07 | streuner_ | mikexcr: ^^^ |
| 09:54.20 | petemc | Lish: i dont get what you mean by repair |
| 09:54.26 | adb | creature_: used --recheck option ? |
| 09:54.36 | adb | grub-install --help |
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| 09:54.54 | creature_ | mhmm |
| 09:54.54 | owen1 | Guerin: when running in irssi i get one line: process 0 (mplayer "/home/oren/sound/events/beep.wav > /dev/null 2>&1") terminated with return code 0 |
| 09:54.56 | fishsponge_ | hey people... i have a problem... bind9 is doing reverse lookups perfectly, but not forward lookups... i have both zone files configured in named.conf.local and both zone files sitting in the correct location. they are known to work on a debian 3.1 box too... any ideas what could be wrong? |
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| 09:56.39 | owen1 | Guerin: igonre it. it's fine. thanks! |
| 09:56.59 | Lish | petemc: fix bugs |
| 09:57.42 | creature_ | adb: yea the --recheck helped |
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| 09:57.56 | mikexcr | streuner_: manchester |
| 09:58.19 | petemc | Lish: fix bugs? but you dont know what a patch is? |
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| 09:59.33 | fishsponge_ | does anyone know why i can't do nslookups unless they've reverse lookups?? |
| 09:59.55 | Lish | petemc: i know what patch is , but , my question is , if i don't find any bug at the moment of my soft , is any way to send a report of the condition of my pc's? |
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| 10:01.07 | petemc | Lish: why would anyone (other than you) care about the condition of your computer? |
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| 10:01.35 | creature_ | WOW what is this /var/archives |
| 10:01.45 | Lish | i don't care of my condition , i just want to help my distro!:P |
| 10:02.06 | Lish | petemc: generly deb distro, because i like it:P |
| 10:02.10 | creature_ | its got some automatic backups of my /etc and /var/www |
| 10:02.18 | yareckon_ | fishsponge_, have you got BIND bolted on backwards? |
| 10:02.21 | yareckon_ | ducks |
| 10:02.34 | petemc | Lish: http://debian.org/intro/help |
| 10:02.43 | fishsponge_ | yareckon_, i assume that's a joke, right? |
| 10:03.06 | Lish | petemc: Bug Tracking System << thnx man:) |
| 10:03.13 | yareckon_ | unless you have a hardware DNS implementation |
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| 10:04.40 | yareckon_ | perhaps one more knowledgeable in that area can help you rather than snarking at your expense.. sorry |
| 10:04.57 | yareckon_ | I've set up BIND once, a long time ago, badly |
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| 10:09.44 | omid8bimo | can't get debian pxe installation to get stuff from nfs after image/kernel load! :-| |
| 10:09.50 | RichiH | i am monitoring /var/log/messages on a display. and by monitor, i mean tail -f. problem is, i need to re-run the command each and every time the file is rotated |
| 10:09.54 | RichiH | is there a better way? |
| 10:10.01 | petemc | RichiH: tail -F |
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| 10:10.34 | RichiH | weeps |
| 10:10.40 | RichiH | petemc: thanks! |
| 10:10.45 | petemc | :) |
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| 10:11.16 | petemc | i pipe that shit through ccze too |
| 10:11.20 | bAndie9100 | hi all |
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| 10:12.13 | bAndie9100 | where to find perl5.6.1 debian package? |
| 10:13.03 | azeem | bAndie9100: what do you need it for? |
| 10:13.29 | bAndie9100 | az old program works only with that version |
| 10:13.32 | bAndie9100 | an |
| 10:14.01 | azeem | are you sure? |
| 10:14.06 | bAndie9100 | sure |
| 10:14.10 | azeem | perl is pretty backwards-compatible |
| 10:14.14 | azeem | I thought |
| 10:14.35 | azeem | bAndie9100: I suggest you port it to the current Perl then |
| 10:15.27 | bAndie9100 | its easiest to get older perl, than recompile the program |
| 10:15.33 | azeem | recompile? |
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| 10:15.39 | azeem | perl is a scripting language |
| 10:15.54 | bAndie9100 | my program is binary |
| 10:16.08 | bAndie9100 | and can run perl scripts |
| 10:16.08 | azeem | bAndie9100: and look at archive.debian.org or so |
| 10:16.19 | bAndie9100 | Oktane, i go to |
| 10:16.30 | azeem | bAndie9100: did you write that program yourself? |
| 10:16.38 | bAndie9100 | no |
| 10:17.23 | azeem | bAndie9100: http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/perl/ |
| 10:17.36 | bAndie9100 | sober, if you type "!uname", can see, i have an old box |
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| 10:18.53 | bAndie9100 | gtk2 widgets are little slow, and xchat (irc client) not compiled with gtk1 anymore |
| 10:18.58 | azeem | bAndie9100: what are you talking about? |
| 10:19.12 | bAndie9100 | about that old program, i must to use |
| 10:19.25 | azeem | so use it |
| 10:19.43 | bAndie9100 | and the latest gtk1 compiled xchat works with perl5.6.1 |
| 10:19.49 | azeem | so install i |
| 10:19.50 | azeem | it |
| 10:19.57 | azeem | however, it is not supported here |
| 10:20.07 | Guerin | if you want a fast irc client, why would you ever use xchat? |
| 10:20.07 | azeem | so if you have problems, you will have to fix them on your own |
| 10:20.54 | bAndie9100 | Oktane, i just described why im looking for perl5.6.1 |
| 10:21.12 | azeem | Oktane? |
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| 10:21.20 | azeem | am I missing half the conversation here? |
| 10:21.47 | bAndie9100 | sorry, no vocation |
| 10:21.56 | azeem | what |
| 10:22.15 | Guerin | i think it's something to do wiht the dictatorship of micronesia and herring |
| 10:22.16 | bAndie9100 | i have a typo |
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| 10:22.59 | azeem | bAndie9100: we've understood what you want to do; if you have further questions pertaining to the currently support Debian releases (stable and testing), feel free to ask them |
| 10:23.02 | azeem | otherwise, please move on |
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| 10:23.21 | bAndie9100 | ok |
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| 10:27.06 | blindy | im using cp -v to copy files. How can i make it display speed and eta? |
| 10:28.12 | creature_ | fuck i boot to new hd and all i get is a grub> |
| 10:28.22 | creature_ | i don't get like a list of kernels |
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| 10:28.34 | creature_ | how do i fix it |
| 10:28.45 | jelly | blindy: ask Debian to patch cp with the progress bar patch. Or use some other app that has something like a progress bar. |
| 10:29.01 | blindy | jelly, any other programs that comes to mind? |
| 10:29.08 | jelly | blindy: rsync works |
| 10:29.15 | blindy | jelly, thanks |
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| 10:29.30 | avtobiff | blindy, check out mbuffer |
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| 10:31.39 | maha | sup |
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| 10:32.05 | maha | problem is, no wifi router. want to m ake mny other lt into an adhoc box for this netboo |
| 10:32.17 | maha | help meeeeeeeeee |
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| 10:34.32 | cantoma | hey guys, I have been a xmms user for the couple of years and I did now an update to xmms2. What happen is that after 2 hours reading how to's from internet I could not play a single mp3 file. I am now trying to use gxmms2 and basically I could not understand how to add file to the playlist. Did you guys face any problem using xmms2 like i did? |
| 10:34.43 | maha | cantoma: you stole my thunger |
| 10:34.48 | maha | thunder man |
| 10:35.10 | maha | nobody is answeing my question anyway |
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| 10:35.20 | moldy | hi |
| 10:35.46 | cantoma | maha: don't get angry with me .. i just arrive the channel |
| 10:36.08 | moldy | why do i not see the hwclock.sh init script in e.g. sysv-rc-conf --list? |
| 10:36.17 | maha | cantoma: its ok |
| 10:36.23 | maha | its my fault. sorry |
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| 10:43.05 | cantoma | ok guys i have deceided to apt-get remove xmms2 and to ./configure; make; make install to xmms. i don't give a cheat if its no longer supported |
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| 10:50.08 | omid8bimo | hey i don't have yahoo in my empathy account list, how can i add it? |
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| 10:51.50 | OpenTokix | cantoma: there is a nice deb-repo for xmms1 |
| 10:52.02 | OpenTokix | cantoma: http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~knuta/xmms/ |
| 10:52.54 | cantoma | OpenTokix: i saw it. The developer heard my hunger and did it just for my stable lenny |
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| 10:53.04 | cantoma | :D |
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| 10:54.01 | abrotman | use audacious? |
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| 10:55.45 | cantoma | abrotman: it looks nice from the screenshots |
| 10:56.03 | abrotman | cantoma: it's rougly the same interface as xmms1, but a bit heavier on system resources |
| 10:56.51 | abrotman | and doesn't require on gtk1 (which i think is now totally unsupported upstream?) |
| 10:57.03 | cantoma | abrotman: they should call audacious xmms2 and xmms2 audacious |
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| 10:58.14 | abrotman | cantoma: i don't name them! |
| 10:58.16 | abrotman | goes to cry |
| 10:58.33 | cantoma | abrotman: it's just a comment |
| 10:58.59 | abrotman | cantoma: there are some differences .. and i thought xmms2 had an xmms1-ish front end available? |
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| 11:00.01 | cantoma | abrotman: but simplicity is no longer a word you can apply to xmms2 |
| 11:00.05 | kanon-mat | shouldnt it be easy to make a default xmms1 skin for a xmms2 client? |
| 11:00.14 | kanon-mat | hmm, is there a useful xmms2 client? |
| 11:00.45 | abrotman | cantoma: so i've heard .. i wasn't happy about the death of xmms1 either .. but ONWARD WITH PROGRESS! |
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| 11:00.58 | cantoma | abrotman: anyway audacious looks really cool. |
| 11:01.38 | abrotman | cantoma: it's just a fair bit heavier than xmms1 .. but i guess you'll get used to it |
| 11:02.07 | cantoma | abrotman: i could play a mp3 file in a few clicks (a few seconds) |
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| 11:03.33 | omid8bimo | hey i don't have yahoo in my empathy account list, how can i add it? |
| 11:03.35 | abrotman | seconds! who has that kind of time .. |
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| 11:07.09 | gewt | ... |
| 11:07.36 | gewt | I installed debian overnight, and when I woke up it asked me to install grub, that failed |
| 11:07.42 | gewt | as grub gives error 18 on boot |
| 11:07.59 | kanon-mat | plays his .oggs in tripple tempo |
| 11:08.28 | gewt | what could cause this retarded failure? |
| 11:08.31 | gewt | I installed properly. |
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| 11:09.45 | kanon-mat | "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS"? |
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| 11:10.40 | kanon-mat | gewt: maybe http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB |
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| 11:10.52 | zmitya | hi all |
| 11:10.57 | OpenTokix | cantoma: I love xmms1, but audacious was really nice - and you have option to use xmms-style file-selection-box |
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| 11:11.10 | zmitya | guys, is there any global problem with the apt system currently ? |
| 11:11.14 | zmitya | with etch |
| 11:11.38 | zmitya | I got this: W: GPG error: http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
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| 11:12.24 | cantoma | OpenTokix: yes they call it the refugee |
| 11:12.58 | joltcan | zmitya: have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#Howtofindakey |
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| 11:12.59 | cantoma | OpenTokix: but i prefer the default one |
| 11:13.07 | matt7676 | when I have used "apt-get clean" then is there any idea to use "apt-get autoclean" and "apt-get autoremove" after that? As much as I know, the local package repository is only in /var/cache/apt/archives and "apt-get clean" deletes everything in it. |
| 11:13.39 | maher | does anyone know how to restart blackbox from a different process? |
| 11:14.02 | abrotman | zmitya: make sure your debian-archive-keyring is up to date |
| 11:14.46 | joltcan | matt7676: You should really read the manual, however: apt-get clean clears local packages, and autoremove removes installed packages that were installed as dependencis but are not longer used |
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| 11:15.34 | zmitya | abrotman: thx |
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| 11:16.42 | OpenTokix | cantoma: default how? |
| 11:16.52 | cantoma | OpenTokix: the default skin |
| 11:16.56 | OpenTokix | cantoma: Its a fork of the unmaintained, undeveloped xmms1 |
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| 11:17.09 | OpenTokix | cantoma: ok |
| 11:17.11 | matt7676 | joltcan: ok, thanks! |
| 11:17.30 | OpenTokix | joltcan: ^5 |
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| 11:18.12 | joltcan | OpenTokix: ^5 |
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| 11:20.09 | gewt | NICE |
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| 11:20.27 | gewt | i have somewhere to go, and I will be unable to start the install before then |
| 11:20.33 | gewt | which would take an hour to download |
| 11:20.39 | gewt | if not more |
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| 11:30.31 | edoreld1 | is there a command to see the name (e.g: de-german, etc) of the current installed & / | used keymap? |
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| 11:32.30 | edoreld1 | hmm keymap, or keyboard, however is called ^_^ |
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| 11:32.45 | petemc | locale ? |
| 11:32.58 | nkuttler | xmodmap can dump the current keymap |
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| 11:33.25 | edoreld1 | locale gives me a list of en_US.UTF-8 keyboards |
| 11:33.29 | edoreld1 | but I'm using a german one |
| 11:33.42 | edoreld1 | and xmodmap says nothing about keboard |
| 11:33.48 | edoreld1 | at least without parameters it doesn't -.- |
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| 11:34.14 | edoreld1 | unless...could en_US.utf8 refer to a german keyboard? |
| 11:34.23 | nkuttler | edoreld1: not locale, and rtfm |
| 11:35.07 | edoreld1 | nkuttler: erhm..go again? |
| 11:35.28 | maher | edoreld1: xmodpmap -lbe or something |
| 11:35.32 | maher | edoreld1: -kbe |
| 11:35.43 | kanon-mat | keyboard layout is not the same as locale |
| 11:35.50 | edoreld1 | ah |
| 11:36.03 | edoreld1 | -kbe doesn't nothing :/ |
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| 11:36.44 | maher | -pke |
| 11:37.07 | maher | edoreld1: are you on consle or X |
| 11:37.13 | edoreld1 | X |
| 11:37.22 | abrotman | /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz ? |
| 11:37.28 | yareckon_ | if you want 255 lines of outut :) |
| 11:37.34 | yareckon_ | output rather |
| 11:37.43 | edoreld1 | nono, I don't want to see wich key is assigned to what |
| 11:37.47 | edoreld1 | I want to see the name of the erhm.. |
| 11:37.53 | edoreld1 | keyboard hmm |
| 11:38.05 | edoreld1 | like de_EU.utf8 or something like that |
| 11:38.13 | maher | try fbxkp to switch between keyboards |
| 11:38.14 | abrotman | that's a locale, not a keymap |
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| 11:38.47 | edoreld1 | well, the locale command only shows me en_US.UTF-8 wich I suppose is not for a german keyboard -.- |
| 11:39.10 | maher | edoreld1: sorry fbxkb |
| 11:39.23 | kanon-mat | i have en_US.UTF-8 and a swedish keyboard :) |
| 11:39.26 | edoreld1 | ommand not found -.- |
| 11:39.27 | abrotman | i'd imagine oyu can use a german keyboard to type english characters |
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| 11:39.53 | yareckon_ | edoreld, are you in gnome? |
| 11:39.53 | kanon-mat | man setxkbmap |
| 11:40.05 | edoreld1 | I have debian 5.0 installed, I'm not sure if it's Gnome or KDE |
| 11:40.07 | sobersabre | hi.. I see some people refer to a program (or maybe a shell builtin) named "rehash". |
| 11:40.11 | sobersabre | what is it ? |
| 11:40.11 | yareckon_ | preferences > keyboard |
| 11:40.12 | edoreld1 | the default |
| 11:40.16 | abrotman | edoreld1: what problem are you actually trying to solve ? |
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| 11:40.38 | yareckon_ | abrotman, that's a good point |
| 11:40.45 | sobersabre | what package is this "rehash" in ? |
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| 11:41.01 | edoreld1 | I'm setting up fai (fully automatic installation) and I want to configure it so it loads the proper keyboard |
| 11:41.07 | edoreld1 | instead of having to press - to write / |
| 11:41.10 | edoreld1 | and etc |
| 11:41.12 | abrotman | sobersabre: builtin for which shell ? |
| 11:41.31 | abrotman | sobersabre: i see rehash as part of zsh |
| 11:41.40 | edoreld1 | on Preferences -> Keyboard I can see the keyboard model but not the short name wich I need ^_^ |
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| 11:42.23 | abrotman | like .. qwerty ? |
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| 11:43.02 | edoreld1 | ok |
| 11:43.03 | edoreld1 | I have |
| 11:43.08 | edoreld1 | KEYMAP=us-latin1 |
| 11:43.17 | edoreld1 | I want to change that keymap to deutsch |
| 11:43.26 | edoreld1 | How do I find the name of my current debian keymap¿ |
| 11:43.52 | petemc | !keymap |
| 11:43.52 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 11:45.34 | JJOliver | Arrggh, please help. I'm trying to do a debian install with server aspects as well. Despite having downloaded all 31cd's and 3 update disks via my 6KB/s internet line (satellite in Uganda) the install is still trying to get things via the online repository. Any suggestions as to why? I'm installing Lenny. |
| 11:45.45 | yareckon_ | edoreld, there is also a linux-fai mailing list if you are still stuck.. they may know about the set of names you need to specify |
| 11:45.59 | edoreld1 | thanks Vareckon |
| 11:46.03 | edoreld1 | and petemc |
| 11:46.07 | edoreld1 | I'll check all that out |
| 11:46.12 | yareckon_ | JJOliver, is that 31 cds?! |
| 11:46.17 | petemc | JJOliver: your /etc/apt/sources.list dictates where you get packages |
| 11:46.27 | JJOliver | yareckon_yes. |
| 11:46.40 | JJOliver | petemc how can I alter the /etc/apt/sources.list mid install? |
| 11:46.46 | petemc | a text editor |
| 11:46.53 | Pascal_1 | uncomment cd line ? |
| 11:46.54 | petemc | ctl c the install |
| 11:47.10 | abrotman | JJOliver: the security updates |
| 11:47.27 | yareckon_ | isn't there an option that askes ou if you want ot use network for the install? |
| 11:47.41 | yareckon_ | can you unplug your connection and install offline? |
| 11:47.45 | JJOliver | In the install window ctl C doesn't do anything. |
| 11:47.46 | abrotman | JJOliver: and if you don't want it to use the internet during the install .. don't plug in the network cable ? |
| 11:47.51 | yareckon_ | I'm sure you've thought of this |
| 11:47.52 | yareckon_ | yeah |
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| 11:48.16 | JJOliver | and when I ctrl+alt+f2 and nano /etc/apt/sources.list the fill is empty |
| 11:48.20 | sobersabre | abrotman: you're probably right. |
| 11:48.27 | sobersabre | thanks! |
| 11:48.31 | abrotman | JJOliver: it would be /target/etc/apt/sources.list IIRC |
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| 11:48.42 | JJOliver | So sure I can pull the cable for it but then the install just seems to hang |
| 11:48.43 | yareckon_ | hmm |
| 11:49.14 | Kazuha | Weird thing I've noticed -- when I try to play a VCD with xine, it crashes, and when I try to play one with Mplayer, my system reboots. |
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| 11:49.22 | abrotman | JJOliver: i'm saying, don't plug it in at all |
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| 11:49.40 | yareckon_ | shouldn't hang, should try to configure dhcp, then fail, and ask if you still want to proceed |
| 11:49.49 | Kazuha | And this is regardless of the video driver/module I use for X (nvidia, nv, vesa). |
| 11:50.00 | yareckon_ | will then ask later if you want to connec tothe internet to get update packages... you decline |
| 11:50.08 | abrotman | not any more |
| 11:50.16 | yareckon_ | hm.. ok |
| 11:50.22 | yareckon_ | this was a while ago |
| 11:50.40 | JJOliver | Okay I got onto the .list but now I can't put in a hash, appears my keyboard doesn't have that button (-: |
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| 11:50.58 | abrotman | or just don't plugin the network cable ... |
| 11:51.37 | JJOliver | abrotman you got the whole . . . i'm on a 6KB/s internet line? |
| 11:51.50 | abrotman | uhm .. so don't plug it in .. |
| 11:51.54 | abrotman | it will only use the CDs |
| 11:52.06 | JJOliver | I've managed to # all lines that relate to an online repository. |
| 11:52.18 | JJOliver | I guess it'll finnish the package it's on then go back to the CD's? |
| 11:52.21 | abrotman | if you give it network access, it's going to use that .. and especially since you don't ahve a CD for the security updates |
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| 11:52.30 | yareckon_ | heh, just don't reboot |
| 11:52.39 | abrotman | so even if you get 99% of your packages from a CD, you still will have to go online for your security updates |
| 11:52.50 | JJOliver | okay . . . |
| 11:53.06 | JJOliver | sure, I just wasn't expecting it to take like 10 hours for an install. |
| 11:53.36 | abrotman | or just ignore me .. |
| 11:53.40 | JJOliver | 10hrs per install is worse than windows :D |
| 11:53.45 | abrotman | actually .. it's not |
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| 11:53.58 | JJOliver | abrotman thanks for your help. Next time I'll ensure the cable isn't plugged in. |
| 11:54.05 | yareckon_ | the deal with stable is that you pretty much only get security updates.... install offline with no internet connection... when you have a full environment, reconnect the network and fund aptitude update and see what you are going to have to update |
| 11:54.09 | yareckon_ | and see how big... |
| 11:54.24 | abrotman | well .. he'll have to do the kernel at least |
| 11:54.38 | abrotman | so that's an awesome 20MB download at 6Kbps |
| 11:55.00 | abrotman | uhm .. i hope 6KB not Kb :) |
| 11:55.10 | yareckon_ | indeed, but new kernels come out for lenny very rarely... |
| 11:55.20 | abrotman | they're security updates |
| 11:55.21 | JJOliver | abrotman I have done 1CD installs on computer not on the network so just assumed it wouldn't require anything online. |
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| 11:55.49 | JJOliver | abrotman I don't mind it doing updates, I just prefer it to be done when I'm asleep :D |
| 11:56.07 | g00se | What's the recommended location for user ttf fonts - ~/.fonts ? |
| 11:56.37 | Kazuha | Has anyone else here seen had mplayer/gstreamer/xine crash/restart the system on them? |
| 11:56.54 | Kazuha | (When trying to view VCDs) |
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| 11:59.06 | Kazuha | Would a package that causes the system to restart as if the reset switch had been pressed, but only under a (user controllable) circumstance count as grave? |
| 11:59.06 | JJOliver | thanks for your help. |
| 11:59.09 | yareckon_ | JJOliver, look into having security updates download automatically.. .there are various ways to do that in debian |
| 11:59.32 | ottoshmidt | what is the spellcheking package called, that I have to install for linux |
| 11:59.32 | ottoshmidt | ? |
| 11:59.32 | yareckon_ | some of which you can schedule to happen while you are sleeping :) |
| 11:59.37 | yareckon_ | aspell probably |
| 11:59.50 | JJOliver | cool thanks |
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| 12:00.57 | yareckon_ | ottoshmidt, you may also have to install some helper libraries for your application to talk to aspell... depends on the app |
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| 12:01.14 | ottoshmidt | k |
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| 12:07.42 | yareckon_ | ok, so I need some commandline foo... I have a list of 73 different prefixes in a text file one per line, and a directory with 73 files: file01, file02...file73. What's the lazyman's way of prepending each filename with the corresponding prefix? |
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| 12:08.34 | edoreld | yareckon_: #bash :) |
| 12:08.41 | yareckon_ | for each line in file, find next file in directory, rename file to line+filename |
| 12:08.45 | yareckon_ | yeah... |
| 12:08.56 | p0g0__ | yareckon_: krename |
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| 12:10.50 | yareckon_ | I started learning awk for this task, then realized how big of a subject that is |
| 12:10.53 | yareckon_ | :) |
| 12:11.18 | yareckon_ | edoreld, you're probably right |
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| 12:11.30 | edoreld | ^^ |
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| 12:14.12 | Kazuha | wonders if there are any package maintainers about. |
| 12:15.40 | yareckon_ | p0g0__, krename comes along with about 56 mb of dependencies on my system... are you sure that it takes a text file as input for filenames? |
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| 12:15.52 | streuner_ | !listkeys mentors |
| 12:15.54 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'mentors' by key (3): _default mentors ;; mentors ;; #debian mentors. |
| 12:16.24 | streuner_ | !mentors |
| 12:16.25 | dpkg | i heard mentors is the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. Also see http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, and http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 12:17.17 | p0g0__ | Yancho: nah, it's a kde app, but it's just the right tool for your task. Commandline...probably sed is the ticket. |
| 12:17.26 | p0g0__ | oops |
| 12:17.34 | p0g0__ | yareckon_: that was for you. |
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| 12:17.52 | Kazuha | Its more I'm wondering, how would a maintainer classify a case where a package caused the system to reboot -- normal or grave? (only occurs when using a specific option.) |
| 12:18.03 | yareckon_ | thanks |
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| 12:20.45 | Pascal_1 | what is the way to sort top by %CPU from command line ? |
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| 12:21.26 | yareckon_ | c |
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| 12:21.38 | Pascal_1 | top -c ? |
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| 12:22.07 | yareckon_ | sorry, don't listen to me |
| 12:22.17 | Pascal_1 | arf |
| 12:22.48 | yareckon_ | it's k actually |
| 12:23.02 | yareckon_ | which I think is the default |
| 12:23.36 | yareckon_ | if you really want a nice dashboard though, I recommend atop |
| 12:23.46 | Pascal_1 | yareckon_: top -k ? |
| 12:24.11 | Kazuha | 'top' by itself already sorts by CPU usage. |
| 12:24.28 | yareckon_ | sorry, I always do the letter sort commands interactively |
| 12:24.47 | yareckon_ | so I don't know about commanline switches... read the man page |
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| 12:26.49 | edoreld2 | hmm read the page man, or read the man page :D |
| 12:26.52 | Pascal_1 | yareckon_: i read it nothing about that |
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| 12:37.45 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 12:37.55 | aprendiz001 | can I put in fstab a mount --bin? |
| 12:37.59 | aprendiz001 | bind |
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| 12:45.11 | kanon-mat | Pascal_1: start top and press ? for help |
| 12:45.25 | Pascal_1 | merci |
| 12:45.38 | kanon-mat | de nada |
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| 12:46.50 | johan____ | Any suggestions on my problem, my sound works great, but sometimes on some sounds, the computer beeps instead of my headphones, anybody have any suggestion? Kinda annoying.. |
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| 12:47.38 | nkuttler | aprendiz001: /from /to none bind |
| 12:47.40 | siyb | after an upgrade yesterday, nvidiafb keeps on loading. i am currently using 2.6.26-2. i have tried blacklisting the module and booting with different parameters (nofb, video=normal ofonly) nothing seems to work. i have found some threads that are a bit outdated but the only thing that seems to have an effekt is recompiling the kernel without nvidiafb support. anyone got any other possible solutions? |
| 12:48.01 | kanon-mat | johan____: a beep from the pcspeaker? |
| 12:48.08 | johan____ | kanon-mat: ye. |
| 12:48.35 | kanon-mat | do you want to disable pcspeaker altogether? |
| 12:48.42 | aprendiz001 | nkuttler, thanks |
| 12:48.59 | johan____ | If I do, I will miss some sounds I think? |
| 12:49.11 | johan____ | But if no other sulutions, yep |
| 12:50.39 | kanon-mat | i put "rmmod pcspkr" in my /etc/rc.local, it works but i think there is a more "debian" way to handle it |
| 12:51.12 | bolt-work | blacklist it? |
| 12:51.22 | bolt-work | !blacklist |
| 12:51.22 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. |
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| 12:51.54 | enouf | !bell |
| 12:51.54 | dpkg | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. In kernel 2.6.26 and later, modprobe -r snd-pcsp, then <blacklist> the snd-pcsp module. Also ask me about <shell beep>. |
| 12:52.57 | kanon-mat | uncomment set bell-style none in /etc/inputrc |
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| 12:55.36 | qipps | hello |
| 12:56.24 | Hans4321 | debian lenny doesnt recognize my usb dvb-t device |
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| 12:57.22 | Thead_ | hi |
| 12:57.30 | Thead_ | i need help with a script |
| 12:57.42 | Hans4321 | i get an error at start up: unable to enumerate usb device port 2 |
| 12:57.47 | module000 | Hans4321: is there a linux driver for your hardware? |
| 12:57.55 | Thead_ | i need a script that saves ip, gateway, netmask, etc, from al interfaces |
| 12:58.23 | module000 | Thead_: ifconfig > settings.txt enjoy |
| 12:58.23 | Hans4321 | module000: i think there isn't one |
| 12:58.41 | module000 | Hans4321: google and be sure then, if there is no driver than noone can help you |
| 12:58.53 | Hans4321 | the mark of my usb dvb device is ' strong' |
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| 12:59.18 | Thead_ | Module000: i need to do that in a script so i can update my route tables if one interface fails |
| 12:59.20 | Hans4321 | it won't appear on google im for sure |
| 13:00.07 | bviktor | you can be sure only if you try |
| 13:00.11 | agaran | Thead_: what mean 'interface fails' ? |
| 13:00.13 | module000 | Thead_: you are describing a simple program to write...and it's likely it already exists if you search |
| 13:00.19 | Hans4321 | sometimes my usb dvb device worked under avermedia settings in the pass |
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| 13:00.52 | Hans4321 | it' s a hybrid device i think |
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| 13:01.00 | Thead_ | yeah well, i did search, couldnt find it, and i have no idea of how to start the script |
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| 13:01.54 | Thead_ | agaran: for example, if i loose conectivity with 1 of my 2 ISP |
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| 13:02.11 | agaran | Thead_: for such cases things like dynamic routing exist |
| 13:02.22 | agaran | Thead_: also, you may use simple policy routing to switch too |
| 13:02.38 | agaran | Thead_: and some crafted iptable rules that does masquerade/snat/dnat of traffic |
| 13:02.53 | Hans4321 | is any dvb-usb being recognized automatically by debian? |
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| 13:03.12 | agaran | Thead_: also you may use dynamic routing daemons like quagga to get such behaviour in some cases, but that sometimes require help from your ISPs |
| 13:03.39 | Hans4321 | i tried install binutils |
| 13:03.56 | Thead_ | again, i need a script, especific task need to be done if one interface fails, so i need to detect the failure |
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| 13:04.50 | Lish | every time wen i terminate my zsh history is gonne! , i want public history for each pts/zsh , not private , what is the source code of this in zshrc? |
| 13:05.03 | IamSOG | :o |
| 13:05.41 | module000 | Thead_: If you don't like the methods you are hearing, feel free to learn to use bash yourself and write it. or perl for that matter. |
| 13:05.47 | Hans4321 | i'm afraid of using the terminal anymore because i had to reinstall debian 3 times because of trying to install the driver for my nvidia fx 5200 |
| 13:06.11 | agaran | Thead_: then you need to figure how to detect that interface failed at first.. |
| 13:06.33 | Thead_ | thats what im trying to do with a script |
| 13:06.36 | agaran | Thead_: for example you need to detect link fail, its easy rather, but also that isp failed so link is active but don't respond etc |
| 13:06.42 | Thead_ | ive done some pearl scripts before |
| 13:06.55 | Thead_ | but this one just got me, i have no idea how to start |
| 13:07.23 | module000 | Thead_: well your starting point is what agaran is telling you...you need to know what defines a "fail"...maybe a failure to ping 2 known-good hosts |
| 13:07.59 | Thead_ | how can i get ip, mask, and gateway from eth0 in shell script? |
| 13:08.28 | module000 | ifconfig > settings.txt && route -n >> settings.txt |
| 13:08.34 | Hans4321 | my usb-dvb device is being recognized as a mass storage device |
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| 13:09.08 | enouf | IINM, everything needed is in /sys/class/net/ and /proc/net/ |
| 13:10.04 | enouf | though module000 's answer should do fine - and it's short and elegant in that sense - otherwise ... |
| 13:10.10 | Hans4321 | should i install firmware packages and if so, which one(s)? |
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| 13:10.51 | gigi | ciao |
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| 13:11.14 | gigi | !list |
| 13:11.14 | dpkg | gigi: VATTENE VIA |
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| 13:13.11 | Hans4321 | i installed me-tv for my usb-dvb stick, but me-tv doesn' t recognize my device |
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| 13:15.57 | Hans4321 | i also downloaded firmware.tar.gz |
| 13:16.20 | Hans4321 | but i dont know what to do with it of whats the meaning of it |
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| 13:18.21 | Hans4321 | all info on google seems to be related to cameras or other devices |
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| 13:20.12 | Hans4321 | maybe i am using the wrong search keys |
| 13:21.10 | Hans4321 | i tried google for debian usb-dvb |
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| 13:23.56 | enouf | Hans4321: maybe #v4l can be of help? |
| 13:24.23 | enouf | but either way - you need specific device/chip info - |
| 13:24.48 | Hans4321 | how could i find that info? |
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| 13:25.11 | enouf | Hans4321: firmware _usually_ goes into /lib/firmware , but there's automated methods - depending on what you're doing |
| 13:25.23 | Hans4321 | enouf: #4l is the name of the chatroom? |
| 13:25.36 | enouf | lsusb -v would be my best guess - and if not; /msg dpkg what's my hardware |
| 13:25.41 | enouf | also check BIOS settings |
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| 13:26.08 | Hans4321 | i will try lsusb -v |
| 13:26.09 | enouf | Hans4321: < enouf> Hans4321: maybe #v4l can be of help? == video4linux |
| 13:26.40 | at0m | Hans4321, http://linuxtv.org/ |
| 13:26.49 | enouf | and yes, a channel ... on freenode; /msg ALIS LIST #*v4l |
| 13:26.50 | Hans4321 | ok, thx |
| 13:27.14 | enouf | or .. /msg ALIS LIST #*video* |
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| 13:27.38 | Hans4321 | ls is saying can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted |
| 13:27.38 | Hans4321 | cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1) |
| 13:28.21 | enouf | check dmesg output as well - concerning Hub/Controller enumeration |
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| 13:28.36 | enouf | but the factoids i mentioned will help |
| 13:29.26 | Hans4321 | my command is not going well: s@debian:~$ msg dpkg |
| 13:29.27 | Hans4321 | bash: msg: command not found |
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| 13:30.15 | Hans4321 | also : can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted |
| 13:30.22 | Kvant | /msg is an irc command |
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| 13:30.27 | Hans4321 | should i su? |
| 13:30.52 | enouf | !+tell Hans4321 -about what's my hardware |
| 13:30.52 | dpkg | told Hans4321 about what's my hardware. |
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| 13:31.12 | enouf | !+tell Hans4321 -about /msg the bot |
| 13:31.13 | dpkg | i dunno what is '/msg the bot'. |
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| 13:31.22 | enouf | heh |
| 13:31.26 | enouf | !+tell Hans4321 -about msg the bot |
| 13:31.26 | dpkg | told Hans4321 about msg the bot. |
| 13:31.47 | enouf | Hans4321: check other irc windows that might have just auto-opened |
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| 13:32.46 | Hans4321 | enouf: i did |
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| 13:33.07 | Hans4321 | im reading the output |
| 13:33.39 | Hans4321 | enouf: it says 9.928029] usb 1-2: device not accepting address 6, error -71 |
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| 13:34.21 | Hans4321 | but also foud new devices... |
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| 13:34.58 | Hans4321 | this might help me |
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| 13:35.30 | Hans4321 | but still " [ 3628.592075] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" |
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| 13:36.17 | Hans4321 | i will try to reboot my system and see whats happening |
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| 13:39.20 | enouf | while you're going full bore, it'll help to look at your BIOS settings |
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| 13:40.14 | JJOliver | Hey peeps. I'm trying to set up a local mirror and have got apt-mirror. Problem is, how do I get all the packages from my 35 cd pile onto the machine? |
| 13:40.37 | Hans4321 | enouf: could you give me more advice? |
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| 13:41.28 | abrotman | JJOliver: didn't you just tell us that you have a 6KB line ? |
| 13:41.37 | Hans4321 | enouf: now im getting other error messages |
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| 13:43.22 | JJOliver | abrotman I said that I have all 35Cd's so I will be making a local mirror for my network |
| 13:43.52 | JJOliver | I'm running the IT at a massive hosptial and big NGO orphange. |
| 13:44.05 | Hans4321 | *getting more coffee |
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| 13:46.16 | peterrooney | JJOliver: for i in `seq 1 35 ` ; do eject ; read -p "insert CD $i" k; mount /cdrom ; find /cdrom -exec cp <mumblemumble> ; umount /cdrom ; done |
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| 13:47.15 | Hans4321 | could the bot service send me the commands once again pls about showing your hardware devices? |
| 13:47.19 | linkd | not to nit pick but you'd be better to run awk over /etc/fstab to find the mount point |
| 13:47.34 | Pres-Gas | Hey all, is it possible to utilize ecryptfs with krb5 for authentication and local passwd files for authorization? |
| 13:47.52 | mazzanet | udev: renamed network interface ath0 to ath21 |
| 13:47.53 | mazzanet | wtf?! |
| 13:48.08 | peterrooney | linkd: i feel humbled. |
| 13:48.10 | Hans4321 | hello bot... |
| 13:48.21 | agaran | mazzanet: changed mac address? |
| 13:48.22 | Hans4321 | jk |
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| 13:48.35 | jerryeguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.41 | peterrooney | Hans4321: /msg dpkg <item> |
| 13:49.03 | mazzanet | agaran: i'd hope not? |
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| 13:49.51 | Hans4321 | what should be the irem name? |
| 13:49.57 | Hans4321 | item name |
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| 13:50.11 | Hans4321 | peterrooney? |
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| 13:50.23 | mazzanet | agaran: it just randomly decided to do that after a reboot |
| 13:50.27 | peterrooney | Hans4321: probably lspci |
| 13:50.36 | mazzanet | reboots again just to see |
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| 13:50.56 | gihan | Hi all, i have a server with debian os. its dropping packets. how to fix it? |
| 13:51.33 | module000 | gihan: that doens't mean anything is broken. your query is ambigious |
| 13:51.44 | peterrooney | Hans4321: as for the bot, /msg dpkg bot help |
| 13:52.53 | enouf | gihan: how do you know that? |
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| 13:53.04 | gihan | my network speeds very slow atm |
| 13:53.10 | creature_ | damnit forgot to make a swap partition for my system |
| 13:53.12 | enouf | so? |
| 13:53.27 | creature_ | so i don't know lol |
| 13:53.35 | enouf | not you |
| 13:53.40 | creature_ | looks like it works without |
| 13:53.41 | valdyn | !lol |
| 13:53.41 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 13:53.42 | petemc | creature_: you can use a swapfile |
| 13:53.51 | valdyn | creature_: you dont need swap |
| 13:53.58 | creature_ | yea looks that way |
| 13:54.05 | gihan | enouf: if config shows RX packets:1362501706 errors:0 dropped:2481936976 overruns:0 frame:0 |
| 13:54.09 | andash | creature_: you coukd shrink another partition and make a swap part |
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| 13:54.11 | enouf | valdyn: if one uses kde et al, they sure do |
| 13:54.11 | petemc | until you run out of memory |
| 13:54.17 | enouf | not true |
| 13:54.34 | valdyn | lets just say "I" dont need swap |
| 13:54.42 | enouf | better ;-) |
| 13:54.43 | valdyn | to each their own |
| 13:55.00 | creature_ | how do i make one of those swap files? |
| 13:55.07 | enouf | mkswap |
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| 13:55.11 | enouf | dd prior |
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| 13:55.51 | valdyn | creature_: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1000000 count=1000 |
| 13:55.55 | enouf | creature_: if you plan on using suspend/hibernation, a swapFILE will be more work to make it work |
| 13:55.56 | valdyn | hmm, or using sparse files i dont know |
| 13:56.04 | valdyn | probably not a good idea to use sparse |
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| 13:56.09 | creature_ | yea not gonna be using those |
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| 13:56.18 | gihan | any help guys? |
| 13:56.33 | valdyn | gihan: we dont know your issue |
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| 13:56.40 | enouf | gihan: and the tx line? |
| 13:56.40 | valdyn | !tell gihan -about ask |
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| 13:56.47 | valdyn | gihan: my net is always to slow too |
| 13:56.53 | Hans4321 | enouf: whats the check hardwares name for the /msg dpkg utility? |
| 13:57.02 | gihan | enouf: TX packets:2621447182 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 |
| 13:57.04 | lng | hi! how to change system language? |
| 13:57.05 | enouf | gihan: and is that a gigE ? and if so, which module? lspci -k |
| 13:57.15 | lng | LANG=de_DE.UTF-8? |
| 13:57.20 | creature_ | valdyn: why not count=1024 |
| 13:57.22 | valdyn | !locale |
| 13:57.23 | dpkg | locale is, like, set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 13:57.24 | lng | i need English |
| 13:57.37 | valdyn | creature_: because i like zeroes |
| 13:57.42 | enouf | gihan: so ethtool -h or something .. and disable offload_checksummimg or someshit |
| 13:57.50 | creature_ | well i do! |
| 13:58.06 | creature_ | wait i don't |
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| 13:58.20 | enouf | creature_: zeros are a nice clean slate |
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| 13:58.58 | creature_ | but 1000 MiB is cooler than 1000 MB |
| 13:59.20 | enouf | oh .. i misunderstood your peeves |
| 13:59.21 | creature_ | cause 1000 MB is gonna be ugly 954 MiB |
| 13:59.24 | valdyn | creature_: how much ram do you have? |
| 13:59.41 | creature_ | valdyn: like 750 MiB |
| 13:59.41 | valdyn | creature_: which nicely matches how disks show their sizes, but do whatever you want |
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| 13:59.49 | valdyn | creature_: ok, you need swap |
| 13:59.51 | enouf | (i missed that posting) |
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| 14:00.24 | valdyn | at 8G on a development desktop swap just gets in the way |
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| 14:00.49 | IamSOG | 8G RAM ?! um... I think 2G RAM already don't need Swap ? |
| 14:00.50 | Hans4321 | dpkg is real and he is intelligent |
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| 14:00.51 | dpkg | Hans4321: I give up, what is it? |
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| 14:01.00 | creature_ | !mkswap |
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| 14:01.12 | valdyn | creature_: just run it on the file |
| 14:01.17 | Hans4321 | dpkg: show hardware |
| 14:01.17 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Hans4321 |
| 14:01.28 | valdyn | Hans4321: lshw? lspci? |
| 14:01.45 | Hans4321 | lspci wasnt working well |
| 14:01.53 | creature_ | valdyn: i guess i also need to mount it? |
| 14:01.56 | valdyn | Hans4321: it does what its made to do |
| 14:02.01 | valdyn | creature_: "swapon file" |
| 14:02.04 | mazzanet | SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:15:af:6a:01:97", ATTR{type}=="1", NAME="ath21" |
| 14:02.07 | mazzanet | what the hell. |
| 14:02.21 | creature_ | oh cool |
| 14:02.29 | mazzanet | This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules |
| 14:02.30 | valdyn | mazzanet: looks like you nic changes MAC as it pleases |
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| 14:02.42 | creature_ | valdyn: so do i like add this to the fstab now? |
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| 14:02.54 | mazzanet | wait.. |
| 14:03.03 | enouf | i noticed between last night /this morning on my 512MB ram box, w/1GB of swap and vm.swapppiness set to 10 (it almost never gets used) .. after allowing just the monitor to sleep (as usual) and i never used Iceweasel - but i left it open and only 1 tab on an https connection -it used over 500+MB of SWAP! on top of all else |
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| 14:03.11 | creature_ | like: /swapfile none swap sw 0 0 |
| 14:03.13 | mazzanet | /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules contains 22 lines from ath0 to ath21 |
| 14:03.19 | mazzanet | each with the same mac address |
| 14:03.20 | valdyn | creature_: 0 2 probably |
| 14:03.34 | creature_ | why not 0 0 |
| 14:03.42 | IamSOG | um.... debian also use UUID? so when I format a hardrive with other OS, Debian will said the original one is missing ? |
| 14:03.42 | enouf | i had to sync + kill firefox-bin just to run swapoff |
| 14:03.47 | creature_ | i always use them cause i have no idea what dump and pass mean :D |
| 14:03.49 | valdyn | creature_: err, i think its sorted out by the init scripts that it cannot be started before certain things |
| 14:03.53 | valdyn | creature_: use whatever |
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| 14:03.55 | Hans4321 | my usb-dvb hybrid device is not being recognized by debian, could someone help me a bit mre? |
| 14:04.11 | valdyn | creature_: init scripts sort out the ordering of mounts in this case |
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| 14:04.33 | enouf | mazzanet: have you seen wiki.debian.org/<your chipset> ? |
| 14:05.07 | enouf | mazzanet: that's not good though - maybe /msg dpkg forcedeth ? (using that mobo chipset?) |
| 14:05.07 | node | 9 |
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| 14:05.26 | enouf | !listkeys forcedeth |
| 14:05.27 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'forcedeth' by key (4): #debian forcedeth ;; _default forcedeth ;; forcedeth ;; forcedeth mac. |
| 14:05.32 | creature_ | ok so how do i see if my swap is now working? :p |
| 14:05.40 | enouf | !forcedeth mac |
| 14:05.41 | dpkg | If you're using the <forcedeth> driver and your network card keeps changing its name each time (eth0, then eth1, then eth2, etc), edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch), remove all but one entry, and replace the MAC address with "00:00:6c:*". See also <z25>. |
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| 14:05.50 | abrotman | !tell creature_ about am i swapping |
| 14:05.55 | simonrvn | IamSOG: yes, because then the volume UUID changes |
| 14:05.57 | mazzanet | enouf: all was fine until i rebooted |
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| 14:06.10 | enouf | mazzanet: same here |
| 14:06.18 | mazzanet | my last reboot was 40 something days ago so who knows what changed |
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| 14:06.22 | agaran | i downgraded bios and forcedeth behaves correctly... |
| 14:06.27 | enouf | mine was years |
| 14:06.29 | mazzanet | it stuck to ath0 for the previous reboots |
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| 14:06.51 | enouf | ls /sys/class/net to see iface names |
| 14:07.01 | Hans4321 | leaving, bye |
| 14:07.05 | enouf | and ifconfig ... |
| 14:07.11 | Hans4321 | dpkg: bye |
| 14:07.12 | dpkg | Cya, hans4321 |
| 14:07.14 | enouf | Hans4321: |
| 14:07.15 | mazzanet | ath21 cipsec0 eth0 lo wifi0 |
| 14:07.21 | Hans4321 | ? |
| 14:07.22 | enouf | heh |
| 14:07.25 | enouf | ath21 |
| 14:07.42 | agaran | ath0 == madwifi? |
| 14:07.43 | enouf | Hans4321: is that a Hub connected to Mobo usb controller? |
| 14:07.47 | mazzanet | now whenever i reboot it sticks to ath21 |
| 14:07.49 | mazzanet | :/ |
| 14:07.51 | creature_ | well my so column is not 0s all the time |
| 14:07.52 | mazzanet | agaran: yes |
| 14:07.54 | creature_ | it however is 0 all the time |
| 14:08.13 | agaran | mazzanet: editor /usr/udev/rules.d/70-persistent* |
| 14:08.20 | agaran | mazzanet: and change ath21 to ath0 |
| 14:08.26 | Hans4321 | enouf: i have a heart computer sempron processor 6 usb connection, dont know about mobo |
| 14:08.43 | enouf | wtf is a heart computer? |
| 14:08.46 | mazzanet | agaran: 00:03 < mazzanet> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules contains 22 lines from ath0 to ath21 each with the same mac |
| 14:09.02 | enouf | mazzanet: rm those lines |
| 14:09.07 | mazzanet | yeah |
| 14:09.20 | mazzanet | i still wouldn't mind knowing why it decided to dupe it 22 times |
| 14:09.24 | agaran | mazzanet: leave one with ath0 |
| 14:09.25 | Hans4321 | enouf: theres 2 usb connections on the front panel and 4 more on the back, ' heart' is the mark of the computer desktop machine |
| 14:09.32 | enouf | it didn't all at once, AFAIK |
| 14:10.05 | agaran | Hans4321: pastebin lsusb somewhere? |
| 14:10.11 | enouf | Hans4321: and what' plugged into which? it's very possible your Internal front USB header conns are not hooked up |
| 14:10.35 | enouf | er s/header/riser |
| 14:10.49 | lng | where do i set default locale? |
| 14:10.51 | mazzanet | now the big question |
| 14:10.52 | Hans4321 | enouf: on fedora, ubuntu, and opensuse it didnt matter which connection i used |
| 14:11.00 | mazzanet | can i hot-rename a device? |
| 14:11.16 | Hans4321 | agaran: bin lsusb is a terminal command? |
| 14:11.31 | agaran | mazzanet: i rmmod driver then load it again and let udev rename |
| 14:11.35 | twisted` | anyone here using calendarserver (caldavd)? |
| 14:11.38 | mazzanet | ooh that's an idea |
| 14:11.43 | agaran | Hans4321: yes, its command from terminal |
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| 14:12.02 | enouf | Hans4321: ok .. then likely not a hardware issue .. good |
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| 14:12.24 | Hans4321 | agaran: bash: bin: command not found |
| 14:12.37 | enouf | agaran: there's also udevadm --reload-rules ... once edits are made |
| 14:12.44 | enouf | IINM |
| 14:12.52 | enouf | man udevadm |
| 14:13.03 | enouf | maybe need --control as well? |
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| 14:13.40 | agaran | enouf: i didn't knew that, nice |
| 14:13.44 | Hans4321 | enouf: error messages are now related to usb hub |
| 14:14.36 | agaran | enouf: udevadm control --reload_rules |
| 14:14.37 | mazzanet | agaran: enouf: cheers |
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| 14:14.40 | mazzanet | all good |
| 14:14.42 | enouf | agaran: i recall earlier, "udevcontrol reload_rules ..." which seldom did correctly - many times, all udev needed to be restarted .. ugh .. or a modprobe -r : modprobe ... or reboot |
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| 14:15.13 | enouf | agaran: but (atleast) udevcontrol/udevmonitor have been replaced with udevadm |
| 14:15.59 | enouf | agaran: righto |
| 14:16.04 | enouf | mazzanet: np |
| 14:16.05 | agaran | enouf: i don't know udev, and dislike (or hate depend when) udev, but its more or less must nowadays, due to prepackaged deps for it etc.. |
| 14:16.10 | IamSOG | um.... debian also use UUID? so when I format a hardrive with other OS, Debian will said the original one is missing ? |
| 14:16.23 | IamSOG | it's in fatab ? |
| 14:16.27 | IamSOG | fstab |
| 14:16.44 | agaran | i use UUID on debian/lenny |
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| 14:16.54 | enouf | agaran: i know .. however, i look at udev as one of the trunks/underlying causes for all the other crap, like hal + dbus ... but nm .. i'll stop there |
| 14:16.56 | agaran | because i swap hdd too much to keep trace which would be where.. |
| 14:17.04 | agaran | enouf: =) |
| 14:17.04 | IamSOG | lol |
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| 14:17.20 | IamSOG | so agaran you add the UUID at your fstab ? |
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| 14:17.58 | simonrvn | 10:05 < simonrvn> IamSOG: yes, because then the volume UUID changes |
| 14:18.01 | agaran | IamSOG: yes |
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| 14:19.02 | IamSOG | Oic, thanks simonrvn and agaran I was just wondering :D |
| 14:19.02 | agaran | IamSOG: to menu.lst too |
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| 14:24.20 | trone | Hi all. I have this video card, and I don't understood waht packages hold its driver. Someone can help me? thor:/etc/X11# lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 14:24.23 | trone | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV5 [Aladdin TNT2] [10de:00a0] (rev 20) |
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| 14:25.23 | abrotman | trone: aptitude install xorg .. it should autodetect the driver you need for it |
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| 14:28.06 | ozon | hi |
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| 14:29.46 | ozon | i build a the package qt-4.5.0 for lenny. now want i build 4.5.1, but "debuild -us -ac" say "unknown Debian architecture c, you must specify GNU system type, too at /usr/bin/dpkg-architecture line 143. --- blah blah ---- couldn't determine host architecture!?" |
| 14:29.51 | ozon | what do i wrong? |
| 14:30.00 | mischief | anyone know if it is possible to get OpenBSD pf under debian? |
| 14:30.11 | abrotman | don't think it is |
| 14:30.38 | abrotman | ozon: -uc -us i think is what oyu wanted ? |
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| 14:31.58 | ozon | abrotman, wrong? sorry. i come from gentoo ;). i read this on http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20 |
| 14:32.00 | valdyn | mischief: maybe ferm does something similar |
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| 14:32.44 | ozon | i download the patches an other stuff from testing repo, patch and compile. with qt-4.5.0 work it... i do the same for 4.5.1 and it dosnt works |
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| 14:33.47 | mischief | pf is such a nice piece of software :( |
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| 14:36.40 | hark | ozon: -uc not -ac |
| 14:36.47 | mischief | for some reason i can't find that in the repos valdyn |
| 14:36.51 | mischief | i can't even find iptables o.O |
| 14:37.03 | mischief | ah there we are |
| 14:37.11 | ozon | hark, i use -uc |
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| 14:37.25 | lng | what does it mean? http://pastebin.com/m4ecb18d4 |
| 14:38.14 | lng | and that is when i apt-get update |
| 14:38.52 | hark | ozon: then you wouldn't get that error |
| 14:38.54 | dest|cs | lng: it means you probably added a repo but you forgot to download and add the certificate/key which is used to sign the packages |
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| 14:39.14 | DEBUNTU73 | I've got TWO Debian maschines. Both have SSHD installed. HOW COME that the System-Account "sshd" do have different UIDs on with systems ?? |
| 14:39.49 | trelane | they're assigned dynamically based on what's open when sshd is installed |
| 14:39.53 | fishsponge_ | hey people - if i want to sync my time with uk.pool.ntp.org, do i need to install "ntpdate" or "ntp"? |
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| 14:40.06 | fishsponge_ | or perhaps something else entirely?! |
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| 14:40.16 | joltcan | fishsponge_: ntp |
| 14:40.37 | joltcan | fishsponge_: and edit the ntp config, it defaults do debian.pool... |
| 14:40.42 | fishsponge_ | "ntp" = "Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs"... BUT... |
| 14:40.51 | fishsponge_ | "ntpdate" = client for setting system time from NTP servers |
| 14:41.00 | fishsponge_ | so "ntpdate" would seem to be the correct choice, so why "ntp"? |
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| 14:41.06 | joltcan | fishsponge_: ntp does it automatically, ntpdate is a manual program |
| 14:41.16 | fishsponge_ | ah, ok... |
| 14:41.22 | joltcan | fishsponge_: the daemon part you see |
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| 14:41.44 | joltcan | fishsponge_: But if you just want to set it, then by all means use ntpdate. I always install both |
| 14:41.47 | DEBUNTU73 | trelane: you sure? where has this been defined ? |
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| 14:42.10 | ozon | hark, thx. now it work |
| 14:42.18 | ozon | my error ;) |
| 14:42.42 | lng | dest|cs: it was not me |
| 14:42.48 | lng | dest|cs: how to solve it? |
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| 14:43.36 | fishsponge_ | does the "ntp" package install directly into a working hands-off state? (i.e. runs on startup, with remote NTP servers already configured)? |
| 14:43.45 | fishsponge_ | i've run dpkg-reconfigure ntp, and it just restarts the server... |
| 14:44.04 | lng | where do i find my reposotories? |
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| 14:44.14 | fishsponge_ | lng, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:45.14 | abrotman | ozon: and the article says -uc -us |
| 14:45.17 | fishsponge_ | lng, type /msg dpkg sources |
| 14:45.24 | fishsponge_ | does the "ntp" package install directly into a working hands-off state? (i.e. runs on startup, with remote NTP servers already configured)? |
| 14:45.25 | fishsponge_ | i've run dpkg-reconfigure ntp, and it just restarts the server... |
| 14:45.31 | abrotman | !tell lng about mirrors |
| 14:45.55 | ozon | abrotman, yes. sorry. i should use copy and paste. i look now in the manpage from debuild |
| 14:45.56 | mischief | fishsponge_, nptdate i believe |
| 14:46.00 | mischief | er, ntpdate :p |
| 14:46.55 | lng | use ntpd |
| 14:47.21 | hark | ozon: man dpkg-buildpackage tells about the options |
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| 14:47.37 | abrotman | fishsponge_: it should work straight away .. but i belive sometimes you ahve to tell it to slew if you want a large correction to happen |
| 14:47.37 | enouf | !ntpdate |
| 14:47.37 | dpkg | i heard ntpdate is a program that sets a system's clock using one of more NTP-servers. It's useful for setting the time occasionally (like on boot or connecting to internet). ask me about ntp. Instead of using this obsolete and unmaintained program, just run ntp-server, add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf, and make sure -g is among the NTPD_OPTS in /etc/default/ntp. |
| 14:48.01 | lng | fishsponge_: /msg dpkg sources |
| 14:48.04 | lng | ? |
| 14:48.13 | lng | i see |
| 14:49.02 | fishsponge_ | enouf, thank you for that... a very confusing few lines though, if you ask me... i've read them 3 times now... |
| 14:49.11 | fishsponge_ | so is it ntpdate, or ntp?? |
| 14:49.19 | fishsponge_ | i've instaleld ntp now, and it does seem to be working |
| 14:49.34 | fishsponge_ | and which is the obsolete and unmaintained program? ntpdate or ntp? |
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| 14:49.54 | lng | can someone help me to fix it? http://pastebin.com/m4ecb18d4 |
| 14:50.03 | xoz | ntp is a mess |
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| 14:50.39 | xoz | /who is xoz |
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| 14:50.56 | xoz | darn |
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| 14:52.17 | lvh | anyone know where I can get emacs snapshot packages in debian? |
| 14:52.57 | lvh | Oh, wait, they were removed from main for legal reasons |
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| 14:57.01 | sam123 | How to enable root login in gui? |
| 14:57.35 | trone | I read on my zless /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz that I have a NVIDIA product that require The 71.86.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs (Aladdin TNT2). The legacy nvidia driver that i found with apt-get are just legacy-96xx. They cointains also 71.68 driver or I have to do something other to get the 71.68? |
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| 14:58.13 | lng | why can't i see ntpd in repos? |
| 14:58.20 | lng | when apt-cache search |
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| 14:59.03 | enouf | lng: apt-get update? |
| 14:59.08 | enouf | lng: which release? |
| 14:59.18 | enouf | judd: versions ntpd |
| 14:59.20 | lng | enouf: i did |
| 14:59.21 | judd | enouf: ntpd -- |
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| 14:59.39 | enouf | it's part of another pkg ; /msg dpkg apt-file lng |
| 14:59.46 | ltune | hi, when i have successfully modprobe my usb gps device cp2101, how comes it always displays: lat:0 long:0 and time: 1.1.1970? |
| 14:59.47 | enouf | judd: versions ntp |
| 14:59.50 | judd | enouf: ntp -- etch: 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-2etch1 etch-security: 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-2etch3 lenny: 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-8 lenny-security: 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-8lenny2 sid: 1:4.2.4p6+dfsg-1 squeeze: 1:4.2.4p6+dfsg-1 |
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| 15:00.02 | zepolen | is it possible to monitor in realtime how much bandwidth is being used per port? |
| 15:00.21 | sylarrr | does degraded software raid operates at lower performance then a healthy raid? |
| 15:00.23 | enouf | ltune: well, that Date has a special meaning ;-) |
| 15:00.31 | lng | enouf: how to get Deb relase name? |
| 15:00.32 | enouf | sylarrr: ofcourse |
| 15:00.42 | enouf | !versions |
| 15:00.49 | enouf | !version |
| 15:00.49 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
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| 15:00.52 | stew | zepolen: iptraf can |
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| 15:00.59 | ltune | enouf, it means it cannot read anything.. but how comes, the device works with nmea in windows? |
| 15:01.01 | zepolen | stew: thanks |
| 15:01.03 | stew | lng: try "lsb_release -a" |
| 15:01.11 | sylarrr | enouf, 120MB/s vs. 33MB/s 3disk vs 2disk raid5? |
| 15:01.31 | sylarrr | enouf, read speed? |
| 15:01.43 | enouf | ltune: i don't know nmea - and windows is only useful here, to prove whether or not some issue is hardware or software related |
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| 15:02.19 | enouf | sylarrr: raid5requires 3 atleast |
| 15:02.23 | sam123 | how to enable root login in gui..? |
| 15:02.24 | ltune | enouf, the hardware is allright, gpsd accepts my device, it just gives no sensible data... |
| 15:02.37 | sylarrr | enouf, degraded raid 5 |
| 15:02.42 | sobersabre | hi guys. is there a package or kernel module to gather statistics about users usage of the system ? |
| 15:02.43 | enouf | ltune: i'd suspect some proprietary format |
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| 15:02.57 | enouf | even the FStype - if not, perhaps it's a u3 device |
| 15:03.00 | zepolen | stew: iptraf is awesome |
| 15:03.00 | enouf | !u3 |
| 15:03.00 | dpkg | methinks u3 is a company producing a proprietary method of auto-launching applications from specially formatted USB flash drive. "U3 smart drives" differ from traditional USB flash drives because they come preinstalled with the U3 Launchpad, which looks similar to the Windows OS start menu and controls program installation. The method only works with recent Microsoft Windows systems.. These devices also appear as cdrom drives, and use a ISO FS in ... |
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| 15:03.18 | sobersabre | some kind of accounting info about: cpu %, mem % & network usage kb/s ? |
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| 15:04.05 | ltune | ok, so what is best enouf ? I bring back my device to the shop and pretend it does not work:) ? |
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| 15:04.21 | DavidProck1981 | my dvd will not mount automatically , nor can i mount it, i just did a clean install on a 32GB SSD |
| 15:04.23 | enouf | stew: do you see this truncation? "... and use a ISO FS in ..." in the "u3" factoid? |
| 15:04.48 | stew | enouf: yes, you can "/msg dpkg tell me about u3" for the full version |
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| 15:05.02 | enouf | ltune: i'm not sure what you should do .. i know what i would do ;-) |
| 15:05.09 | ltune | so? |
| 15:05.14 | DavidProck1981 | hello |
| 15:05.17 | lng | stew: lsb_release : command not found |
| 15:05.25 | mischief | arg, why does aptitude take up so much memory! |
| 15:05.40 | enouf | stew: is there any way to perhaps shorten it, so it's not truncated when triggered "in channel" ? |
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| 15:06.19 | DavidProck1981 | woho! |
| 15:06.33 | enouf | stew: i believe there's not more than 5-10 chars missing at the end |
| 15:06.36 | enouf | IIRC |
| 15:06.46 | yomm | anyone else having problems with the workspace switcher not correctly updating it's icons ? |
| 15:06.49 | enouf | lng: installit |
| 15:06.55 | DavidProck1981 | can i get a waht waht, what |
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| 15:07.19 | lng | enouf: not available |
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| 15:07.30 | stew | enouf: you are asking me if it is possible to edit a factoid? |
| 15:07.45 | enouf | lng: wait - also see en.wikipedia.org/Unix_Time or something |
| 15:07.50 | enouf | !epoch |
| 15:07.50 | dpkg | methinks epoch is the end of an era. For example y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. The unix epoch on 32-bit hardware isn't until Jan 18 2038, by which time we will probably have all migrated to 64-bit architectures. It's also a version number orderer used by the Debian packaging software. For example: 2:0.0.0 is a higher version than 9.9.9 by itself. |
| 15:08.13 | enouf | there we go ..ffs ... DAYS ago .. i tried eon, era, ... |
| 15:08.18 | DavidProck1981 | fuck this |
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| 15:09.01 | enouf | someone was asking about the kde pkgs that are kde 3.5.x yet have the 4: prepended as epoch |
| 15:09.16 | lng | enouf: i need ntpd |
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| 15:09.59 | enouf | lng: i need a _lot_ more than any software |
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| 15:10.10 | dropper_ | Hey guys I'm using Lenny/Gnome and just noticed I can't paste into Xterm-- how do I enable this ?? |
| 15:10.24 | enouf | dropper_: tried middle-click? |
| 15:10.36 | dropper_ | ooo |
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| 15:10.53 | dropper_ | um, where is middle click on a mac book |
| 15:10.54 | dropper_ | ? |
| 15:11.00 | dropper_ | (just kidding rofl) |
| 15:11.03 | enouf | what's a mac book? |
| 15:11.08 | dropper_ | heehee |
| 15:11.10 | JNSamuel | rofl |
| 15:11.23 | enouf | (just kidding rofl) |
| 15:11.43 | sylarrr | I seem to boot without ps2 mouse |
| 15:11.55 | enouf | sylarrr: and? |
| 15:11.59 | sylarrr | anyway to itroduce the mouse |
| 15:12.08 | sylarrr | introduce |
| 15:12.26 | enouf | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:12.29 | sylarrr | ie make the mouse work |
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| 15:12.42 | enouf | and do you have AllowNoMouse option set? |
| 15:12.50 | enouf | or whatever that option is |
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| 15:13.07 | enouf | wait .. in X? or Console? or what? |
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| 15:13.18 | sylarrr | in X |
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| 15:13.29 | sylarrr | but I did some thing and got console |
| 15:13.33 | sylarrr | so I can write stuff |
| 15:13.37 | enouf | wonderful |
| 15:13.40 | enouf | !enter |
| 15:13.40 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 15:13.57 | enouf | you did ctrl-alt-fN |
| 15:14.06 | sylarrr | I guess |
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| 15:14.38 | sylarrr | so, any idea? |
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| 15:14.46 | enouf | about? |
| 15:14.53 | sylarrr | how to make the mouse work |
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| 15:14.59 | enouf | where? |
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| 15:15.14 | sylarrr | in gdm when I re-enable it |
| 15:15.21 | enouf | 11:07 < enouf> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:15.49 | enouf | dropper_: btw, that was a wheel/middle-click paste in xterm there ;-) |
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| 15:16.19 | enouf | re-enable what? |
| 15:16.35 | sylarrr | enouf, nothing about the mouse there |
| 15:16.51 | sylarrr | reenabling hte ps2 mouse |
| 15:16.52 | enouf | that's not waht i asked |
| 15:17.01 | enouf | use a pastebin |
| 15:17.11 | sylarrr | from console ?! |
| 15:17.18 | enouf | you should not have to re-enable anything in gdm |
| 15:17.26 | enouf | !pastebinit |
| 15:17.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; specially convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" ; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit" |
| 15:17.45 | sylarrr | cool |
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| 15:17.54 | sam123 | can anybody say how to enable root login via gui? |
| 15:18.11 | abrotman | you don't want to |
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| 15:18.31 | sylarrr | enouf, but there is nothing to paste, just that my nvidia driver is something, and screensaver is another thing and that is it |
| 15:18.31 | nkuttler | did debian disable x login as root? |
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| 15:19.34 | sylarrr | maybe I'll just reboot |
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| 15:20.10 | The_failthful | is possbible to use ip masquerading with only one network interface ? |
| 15:20.15 | The_failthful | it*+ |
| 15:20.15 | jpinx | when I chroot into another OS (on a usb stick) how can I change the prompt so that it tells me where I am? |
| 15:20.52 | nkuttler | jpinx: define where |
| 15:21.05 | adb | jpinx: change hostname on usb |
| 15:22.09 | sylarrr | crapper :X tested my alt+ctlr+fNs and around f8 got my screen with red stripes, and no fN work now |
| 15:22.11 | sylarrr | :S |
| 15:22.42 | jpinx | adb: the hostname is correct, but the prompt is not changing |
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| 15:23.05 | mjt | anyone know the difference between ethNN and wifiNN interfaces (both created for the same wireless nic) ? |
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| 15:23.44 | adb | jpinx: log out/in |
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| 15:24.21 | jpinx | adb: done that |
| 15:24.58 | jpinx | adb: still the same prompt |
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| 15:25.18 | adb | /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start ? |
| 15:25.37 | sylarrr | and i can't ssh it |
| 15:25.39 | sylarrr | crap |
| 15:25.54 | sylarrr | how did that happen |
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| 15:26.29 | jpinx | adb: done that - still the same prompt |
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| 15:27.35 | adb | reboot ... |
| 15:28.04 | jpinx | adb: can you confirm that i am doing this right - I did chroot /media/disk as sudo with /media/disk mounted |
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| 15:29.28 | adb | maybe , if disk is usb stick |
| 15:29.31 | jpinx | adb: reboot - could not determine runlevel - doing soft reboot - it came back same prompt |
| 15:30.03 | adb | cat /etc/hostname ; on both sys get ...? |
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| 15:31.07 | jpinx | the hostname on the system Ii am chroot into is correct - different to the one I came from |
| 15:31.54 | jpinx | adb: that's how I know I am definitely chroot'd in |
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| 15:32.58 | adb | so , further i dunno |
| 15:33.12 | jpinx | adb: ok - thanks |
| 15:33.16 | adb | np |
| 15:33.55 | lng | stew: it's Debian 4.0 CentOS |
| 15:34.11 | stew | lng: what? |
| 15:36.04 | lng | 18:01 < stew> lng: try "lsb_release -a" |
| 15:36.07 | Knoeki | I can't really think of what is causing this: when I open a link in any program that opens in firefox, firefox will move to the active workspace and then open a new tab with the link. I don't want it to move to the active workspace, any idea what's causing this? |
| 15:36.15 | Knoeki | using debian 5.0 with gnome. |
| 15:36.34 | Knoeki | (oh, and I realize it's actually IceWeasel, but I refuse to call it like that.) |
| 15:37.30 | stew | lng: can you show us the actual output? Debian and Centos don't reaally make sense together |
| 15:37.38 | stew | lng: use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
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| 15:38.01 | lng | stew: what should i paste? |
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| 15:38.10 | stew | lng: the output of "lsb_release -a" |
| 15:38.53 | lng | stew: i don't have it and it's not available for install |
| 15:38.57 | arvind_khadri | hi , i have a scanner, but i can only from it when i do sudo hp-scan -n , i dont want it to be done with sudo, how do i go about it? |
| 15:39.23 | stew | lng: what does CentOS have to do with anything here? |
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| 15:41.25 | damog | stew: didn't you hear? CenOS is the shit! |
| 15:41.30 | damog | CentOS too. |
| 15:42.04 | stew | i've experienced this "shit" first hand |
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| 15:42.41 | arvind_khadri | stew, any help ? |
| 15:42.51 | sam123 | can anybody say how i can login as root in debian GUI...? |
| 15:42.55 | Gun_Smoke_ | I have exim4 config file selected to be split up into smaller files. I'm trying to locate which one is responsible for limiting connecting. I have a zillion of these no immediate delivery: more than 10 messages received in one connection |
| 15:43.03 | stew | arvind_khadri: "adduser username scanner" then logout, log back in, and try again |
| 15:43.42 | stew | sam123: i'd recommend not logging in as root |
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| 15:44.31 | stew | sam123: if you are using gdm, you can probably change this setting, which I don't recommend you change, with gdmsetup |
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| 15:45.02 | adb | sam123: sux - wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials |
| 15:45.16 | arvind_khadri | stew, am already a member of it |
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| 15:46.13 | sam123 | stew: how to use gdb to enable root..? |
| 15:46.29 | anddam | hello |
| 15:46.30 | stew | sam123: gdb? i don't know why you'd use gdb |
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| 15:46.46 | arvind_khadri | stew, even when i run xsane in normal mode , it doesnt find the device, but it can find when it is done with sudo |
| 15:46.52 | mjt | gdm it is, not gdb :) |
| 15:46.54 | stew | arvind_khadri: do you know the /dev node for your scanner? |
| 15:47.23 | arvind_khadri | stew, no i dont... anyway to find it? |
| 15:47.33 | stew | arvind_khadri: i don't remember |
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| 15:47.54 | arvind_khadri | stew, ok if i find it, you want me to set permissions on it ? |
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| 15:48.13 | stew | arvind_khadri: not directly |
| 15:48.34 | stew | arvind_khadri: perhaps with a udev rule. unlesss you fancy changing the permissions every time you reboot or everytime you reconnect the device |
| 15:48.51 | stew | arvind_khadri: i'd check the /usr/share/doc/*/ for all sane related pacakges |
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| 15:50.17 | anddam | I've got a weird issue, if I shutdown gdm the console font becomes unreadable as hyeroglyphs, and it returns readable if I start gdm back |
| 15:50.27 | anddam | I think this is due to fb or something like that, what could I check? |
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| 15:51.34 | anddam | I don't even know how to grab a screenshot of broken font |
| 15:51.45 | sam123 | in fstab i used /dev/sda1 /media/vista ntfs defaults 0 0 ... but it says permission not allowed wile accessing it after restarting..? can anybody help? |
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| 15:52.17 | anddam | sam123: explain "while accessing it" |
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| 15:52.50 | empiric | guys i am trying to install kernel 2.6.22.19 on debian lenny |
| 15:52.51 | sam123 | sam123: while trying to open it in explorer |
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| 15:52.58 | empiric | i am getting prbs |
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| 15:53.23 | stew | empiric: why are you trying to install such an old kernel? |
| 15:53.32 | empiric | for lustre |
| 15:53.35 | empiric | that supports |
| 15:53.43 | sam123 | anddam: while trying to open it in explorer |
| 15:53.43 | empiric | any idea how i complie |
| 15:54.02 | empiric | i am doing make menuconfig |
| 15:54.13 | empiric | load lenng conf file |
| 15:54.14 | empiric | make |
| 15:54.20 | anddam | sam123: have you checked actual permission? add umask or user, read man fstab and man mount |
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| 15:54.20 | stew | empiric: "aptitude install build-essential fakeroot module-assistant && m-a a-i lustre" |
| 15:54.21 | empiric | make modules_install |
| 15:54.24 | empiric | thats it |
| 15:54.33 | empiric | but i can not boot from that kernel |
| 15:54.37 | stew | empiric: there is no reason to recompile an entire older kernel just to get lustre |
| 15:54.43 | stew | empiric: just use a stock debian kernel |
| 15:54.45 | anddam | !lustre |
| 15:54.45 | empiric | ok wait |
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| 15:55.01 | empiric | anddam come on |
| 15:55.14 | anddam | empiric: ? |
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| 15:55.30 | stew | empiric: he was checking if the bot had any facts about lustre that might help you |
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| 15:57.30 | empiric | stew wait me coming |
| 15:57.43 | empiric | ill let u kn as the installs happens |
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| 16:01.44 | mien | hi. i need to figure out what ethernet driver to use - i try to install netcd debian and it is not auto-detected |
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| 16:02.04 | mien | is there any command that outputs info of my ethernet hardware |
| 16:02.05 | boodie | Ciao. OT. Un consiglio navigatore TomTom o Garmin? |
| 16:02.20 | mien | i got no clue whats in that computer... |
| 16:02.37 | at0m | mien, tried lspci? |
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| 16:02.50 | `swoolley | S J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE U |
| 16:02.51 | mien | there it was |
| 16:02.52 | `swoolley | SERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MOR |
| 16:02.52 | mien | :D |
| 16:02.55 | mien | thancs |
| 16:02.57 | `swoolley | E USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED |
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| 16:03.42 | Lish | Fantastic smart:P |
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| 16:03.50 | `swoolley | J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE |
| 16:03.50 | `swoolley | USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEE |
| 16:03.51 | `swoolley | D MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! |
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| 16:04.16 | enouf | wonderful |
| 16:04.18 | _km_ | well that made me want to join |
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| 16:04.40 | swoolley` | J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MO |
| 16:04.41 | swoolley` | RE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! WE NEED MORE USERS J O I N ##POLITICS !! |
| 16:04.54 | *** mode/#debian [+b *swoolley*!*@*] by tomaw |
| 16:05.46 | enouf | capitalism teaches bozos to exploit and even moreso; persistence .. ergo, SPAM |
| 16:05.48 | IamSOG | Oh, finally a kick :D |
| 16:07.07 | enouf | whacks swoolley` upside the head with ronald reagan's femur |
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| 16:07.39 | sylarrr | does this (CONFIG_E1000E_ENABLED=y) in /boot/config-* means that e1000e module for intel pro 1000 nic is built in? |
| 16:07.45 | anddam | stew: any hint about the font issue? |
| 16:07.52 | enouf | sylarrr: yes |
| 16:08.00 | sylarrr | o, good |
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| 16:08.15 | enouf | sylarrr: which kernel version though? |
| 16:08.21 | stew | anddam: nope |
| 16:08.27 | sylarrr | 2.6.26-2 |
| 16:08.28 | enouf | config-* means nothing |
| 16:08.40 | anddam | I was wondering to prune gnome and try something different but without a working console it's hard |
| 16:08.50 | sylarrr | are these intel nics any good? |
| 16:09.02 | sylarrr | are there good nics for less money? |
| 16:09.03 | anddam | and it doesn't seems any right that the console breaks when gdm is down |
| 16:09.14 | anddam | less than how much? |
| 16:09.32 | enouf | sylarrr: even in vanilla .27 an issue existed IINM |
| 16:09.43 | anddam | from what I heard intel gigabits were working best than competitors |
| 16:09.49 | anddam | s/best/better/ |
| 16:10.02 | sylarrr | enouf, for intel pro nics? |
| 16:10.29 | enouf | http://lwn.net/Articles/300202/ sylarrr |
| 16:10.41 | enouf | gigE iinm |
| 16:10.49 | sylarrr | alternatives? |
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| 16:13.36 | anddam | bye |
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| 16:16.03 | lvh | Whenever I configure one of my printers to print in color, jobs still leave but never arrive. How can I debug this? |
| 16:16.11 | nab | buy a network card encore ENL863-TX-RE debian does not recognize ... mmmm ... well ... I want to open the usermanual, q is in pdf ... but I realized I have a q pdfs viewer. .. I have the cd ... but no packet q has a pdf viewer |
| 16:16.41 | lvh | Issue is identical for two different color laserprinters so I'm guessing it's a ghostscript problem. |
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| 16:17.33 | anddam | last question: how do I remove a package and package depending on it? |
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| 16:18.03 | abrotman | anddam: remove the package it depends on |
| 16:18.04 | nab | me? |
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| 16:18.50 | anddam | namely I'd like to remove whole gnome thing |
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| 16:19.15 | anddam | abrotman: what's the main package? |
| 16:19.21 | anddam | gnome-desktop-environment ? |
| 16:19.22 | abrotman | aptitude remove gnome |
| 16:19.29 | lvh | anddam: If you installed with aptitude and the package was pulled in just to satisfy a dependency then aptitude remove will automagically remove the pulled-in packages. |
| 16:19.33 | anddam | abrotman: that removes nothing |
| 16:19.34 | lvh | anddam: So, aptitude remove gnome. |
| 16:19.56 | lvh | Then you installed gnome poorly, try gnome-* |
| 16:20.06 | enouf | !metapackage |
| 16:20.06 | dpkg | metapackage is probably a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. Roy Rogers never metapackage he didn't like. it's supposed to be WILL rogers The version of a metapackage can be misleading -- look at what it depends on instead (see the kde metapackage for an example). |
| 16:20.06 | anddam | lvh: I isntalled with aptitude iirc but I just tried purge gnome and it didn't work |
| 16:20.12 | abrotman | anddam: how did you install it? |
| 16:20.20 | anddam | abrotman: can't really remember |
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| 16:20.56 | adb | !tell anddam about remove gnome |
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| 16:22.45 | anddam | thanks |
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| 16:25.12 | anddam | I get "Couldn't find any package whose name or description..." |
| 16:25.57 | anddam | what if the packages were installed with apt-get? |
| 16:26.24 | anddam | too late I'm running apt-get :-p |
| 16:26.30 | anddam | see you later |
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| 16:34.05 | lng | how to install ntpd on Debian 4.0? |
| 16:34.13 | stew | lng: aptitude install ntp |
| 16:34.27 | stew | lng: though, if you are running 4.0, you should consider upgrading to 5.0, the current stable release |
| 16:34.31 | lng | stew: shouldn't it be ntpd? |
| 16:34.55 | stew | judd: info ntp --release etch |
| 16:34.55 | judd | stew: ntp (net): is optional; Version: 1:4.2.2.p4+dfsg-2etch1; Size: 320.9k; Installed: 732k -- Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs |
| 16:35.04 | stew | lng: no? |
| 16:38.11 | RichiH | how can i re-set the default language? |
| 16:38.15 | RichiH | of a whole system, that is |
| 16:38.21 | stew | RichiH: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:38.29 | RichiH | ta |
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| 16:40.18 | diclev | Hello to all. Who can solve this problem: when I was adding CDROM (btw again... because when I installed the package last time - I get error that it can't mount cdrom.) linuxnet:/home/diclev# apt-cdrom add ||| Using /cdrom/ CD-ROM mounting point ||| Unmounting CD-ROM Waiting for operation with disk... ||| Insert the disk to device and press Enter <ENTER> ||| mounting CD-ROM... E: Failed to mount the cdrom. | So it uses /cdrom/ , that is it search there, but |
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| 16:47.54 | dropper_ | can someone let me know the *best* way to upgrade my iceweasel in Lenny to 3.0 or better? |
| 16:48.28 | azeem | dropper_: lenny ships iceweasel 3.0 |
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| 16:48.44 | dropper_ | weird.... when I tried to instal firebug it tells me I have 2.something |
| 16:48.55 | base3_ | i'm using exim4 on debian for mail and i want to forward some mail for specific addresses (say user1@domain) to other email addresses. however user1 doesnt need to exist on the system for anything else. is there an easier way of doing it than to create a user user1 and a .forward file for him? |
| 16:48.59 | azeem | dropper_: what does dpkg -l iceweasel say? |
| 16:49.02 | dropper_ | yep, I have 2.0.0.19 |
| 16:49.18 | azeem | dropper_: what does "cat /etc/debian_version" say? |
| 16:49.20 | mischief | i think dpkg is dead :< |
| 16:49.51 | dropper_ | azeem: I don't want to tell you lol |
| 16:49.55 | ajavid | good morning |
| 16:50.41 | diclev | Hello to all. Who can solve this problem: when I was adding CDROM (btw again... because when I installed the package last time - I get error that it can't mount cdrom.) linuxnet:/home/diclev# apt-cdrom add ||| Using /cdrom/ CD-ROM mounting point ||| Unmounting CD-ROM Waiting for operation with disk... ||| Insert the disk to device and press Enter <ENTER> ||| mounting CD-ROM... E: Failed to mount the cdrom. | So it uses /cdrom/ , that is it search there, but |
| 16:50.51 | dropper_ | azeem so yes that was the problem |
| 16:51.32 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 16:58.22 | fluxi | Hi! I have a problem with the installation of mysql-5.0. I always get the following error message: http://pastebin.ca/1436429 |
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| 16:59.12 | maplebed | anybody have an opinion on http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/cdbs-doc.html vs. the regular dh_make generated files? |
| 16:59.39 | castrox | sound problem here - working in Rhythmbox but not in VLC - anyone who can point me in the right direction? (Googling doesn't help..) |
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| 17:02.07 | maplebed | (quoted from the link above, emphasis mine) "In summary, we believe CDBS (typically combined with Debhelper) is the future of Debian packaging.". <-- who's 'we'? is doing things this way worth my time? |
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| 17:04.37 | karthickk | i need a help I tried to mount the file at startup : fstab entry--> dev/sda1 /media/vista user 0 0 |
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| 17:04.46 | karthickk | But its not working |
| 17:05.10 | karthickk | i need a help I tried to mount the file at startup : fstab entry--> dev/sda1 /media/vista user 0 0 : I can use it only in root that too in read mode only |
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| 17:06.03 | Lish | karthickk: try this defaults,uid=1000,gid=0,umask=0027 1 2 |
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| 17:08.44 | maplebed | adama_: find -exec is a good one. |
| 17:09.01 | stew | adama_: use xargs |
| 17:09.41 | maplebed | i.e. find . -exec grep -H foo {} \; |
| 17:10.01 | adama_ | thanks! |
| 17:10.06 | stew | except use "+" intead of "\;" |
| 17:10.17 | maplebed | looks up the difference |
| 17:10.37 | stew | maplebed: + is like "xargs", \; is like "xargs -n1" |
| 17:10.56 | maplebed | huh. Interesting. Thanks, stew! |
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| 17:12.35 | matt7676 | if I am a aptitude user, then is it safe to use "apt-get clean" and/or "apt-get autoremove"? |
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| 17:13.29 | misreckoning | it looks like that kernel 2.6.26 has some bug that prevents ALSA from working with my microphone correctly |
| 17:13.43 | misreckoning | so I want to ugprade the kernel to a never version |
| 17:13.49 | empiric | stew |
| 17:13.52 | empiric | i\u there |
| 17:13.54 | misreckoning | but I want to remain on Lenny |
| 17:14.03 | diclev | no, I have no problems with mic |
| 17:14.06 | misreckoning | how-to, any suggestions, help? |
| 17:14.08 | stew | empiric: yes |
| 17:14.22 | stew | maplebed: you can try "/msg dpkg new alsa |
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| 17:14.57 | stew | maplebed: those instructions will install newer alsa drivers while leaving the rest of your kernel (and the rest of your system) the same |
| 17:15.23 | maplebed | stew - wrong target... I wasn't asking about alsa. misreckoning maybe? |
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| 17:15.49 | stew | maplebed: right, sorry |
| 17:15.54 | maplebed | :) |
| 17:15.56 | stew | misreckoning: see my spamming of maplebed |
| 17:16.45 | misreckoning | aha |
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| 17:20.12 | karthickk | Lish: i tried defaults,defaults,uid=1000,gid=0,umask=0027 1 2 again its mounted as read only |
| 17:20.13 | misreckoning | sorry but there is no log for today, I'll check it out tomorrow, or you can copy-paste /msg me |
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| 17:21.05 | karthickk | Lish: i tried defaults,defaults,uid=1000,gid=0,umask=0027 1 2 again its mounted as read only that too only in root...for other users there is warning no privilages while mounting |
| 17:21.41 | Lish | why you have 2 defaults? |
| 17:21.55 | mischief | can anyone tell me how to get the gpg key of a repo? |
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| 17:22.23 | konr | is there an "aptitude -search foo"-like command? |
| 17:22.30 | stew | mischief: you now the keyid? (which is typically represented as 8 or 16 hex digits)? or you need to figure that out? |
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| 17:22.45 | karthickk | Lish: no i have made only one default: typing mistake |
| 17:22.45 | themill | konr: man aptitude. Miraculously, it's called "aptitude search" |
| 17:23.03 | Lish | karthickk: extra options you can use is this rw,user r=read w=write |
| 17:23.15 | stew | karthickk: can you show us the entire line from fstab? or the entire mount command? |
| 17:23.16 | misreckoning | stew: can you "spam" me (send what you said to maplebed) ? |
| 17:23.26 | stew | dpkg can |
| 17:23.26 | dpkg | it has been said that can is question of capability, not permssion. You are quite capable of attempting anything you choose. If you're meant to ask permission instead, ask me about <ask>. SocketCAN project, ask me about <SocketCAN>. |
| 17:23.29 | stew | err |
| 17:23.35 | stew | dpkg: tell misreckoning about new alsa |
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| 17:23.48 | giles | heya all |
| 17:24.06 | ribasushi | dpkg: tell me about masturbation |
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| 17:24.22 | ribasushi | hahahahaha |
| 17:24.25 | giles | blinks |
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| 17:24.51 | misreckoning | thanks man, sorry I didn't understand what you meant :) |
| 17:25.43 | giles | erm I'm having some problems creating a deb package of pywebem |
| 17:25.45 | giles | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=133883&package_id=147004&release_id=646782 |
| 17:25.54 | mischief | stew, i need to acquire the key from the repo i would like to use |
| 17:26.25 | stew | mischief: do you know the keyid? |
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| 17:27.03 | giles | anyone got some tips on how best to get this lib packaged up? |
| 17:27.36 | StarManta | trying to mount my new hard drives, i can't seem to mount them |
| 17:27.54 | StarManta | in the drives window, the "enable" button doesn't have any effect |
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| 17:27.58 | StarManta | any thoughts? |
| 17:28.07 | nkuttler | giles: new maint guide? #debian-mentors on oftc? |
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| 17:29.06 | mischief | stew, do you know how i can get the gpg key of a repo? |
| 17:29.14 | stew | mischief: yes |
| 17:29.21 | riot | uh, i just sticked a bluetooth-dongle into my unstable-box, but i can't find any hci-devices. Any hints? I just installed bluez and loaded rfcomm-module + dependencies |
| 17:29.24 | mischief | stew, um, i think so |
| 17:29.30 | mischief | stew, aptitude update; tells me that one of the keys is invalid |
| 17:29.38 | giles | heya nkuttler it seems to be invite only |
| 17:29.41 | mischief | i'm trying to find out how to fix it :( |
| 17:29.52 | giles | i've just seen this package has a setup.py |
| 17:30.01 | stew | mischief: are you using a deiban repository? or some third party repository? |
| 17:30.12 | giles | i think i've seen a guide for that so I'll keep plugging away |
| 17:30.23 | stew | mischief: HOPEFULLY the key i on a public keyserver, in which case you could get it with "gpg --recv-keys $keyid" |
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| 17:30.42 | mischief | stew, it's 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 17:30.42 | mischief | :) |
| 17:30.52 | stew | mischief: then check the trust path, then you can install it with "gpg --export $keyid | apt-get add -" |
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| 17:31.30 | stew | mischief: oh, that's the current debian archive key. you could also install that with "aptitude install debian-archive-keyring" |
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| 17:31.43 | masom | Hi, is there a way to have the kernel use a password when mouting an encrypted ext2 system? (Having the password set at compile time in the kernel)? |
| 17:32.33 | agaran | how to add additional parameters to mount options for filesystems like /dev/shm ? |
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| 17:33.50 | karthickk | lish:/dev/sda1 /media/vista ntfs defaults,uid=1000,gid=0,unmask=0027 1 2 |
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| 17:33.55 | mischief | stew, that worked, it found the key |
| 17:33.58 | mischief | stew, aptitude still seems to think it is invalid |
| 17:34.04 | mischief | the key is for http://mirror.peer1.net/ sid |
| 17:34.05 | karthickk | lish: sry its /dev/sda1 /media/vista ntfs defaults,uid=1000,gid=0,unmask=0027 1 2 |
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| 17:34.26 | mischief | stew, why does aptitude say it is invalid? |
| 17:34.33 | stew | mischief: you need to run "aptitude update" |
| 17:34.35 | akahn | Is there a command line tool that makes browsing apache log files easier? |
| 17:34.55 | agaran | akahn: obvious, grep? |
| 17:35.13 | aadil | akahn, ccze? |
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| 17:36.06 | mischief | stew, i did |
| 17:36.06 | mischief | stew, several times. each invocation produces the same message |
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| 17:36.38 | karthickk | lish: |
| 17:36.43 | stew | mischief: what does "apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring" say for "Candidate:" and "Installed:"? |
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| 17:37.07 | karthickk | lish: sry a connection prob |
| 17:37.13 | stew | mischief: the more detailed method I mentioned with gpg --recv-keys ; gpg --export should work in any case |
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| 17:38.01 | adama_ | /usr/bin/find: Argument list too long |
| 17:38.10 | stew | karthickk: ntfs is readonly. if you want read/write, use ntfs-3g (/msg dpkg ntfs-3g) |
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| 17:40.33 | \amethyst | adama_: what are you doing exactly? what is the invocation that produces that error? |
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| 17:41.25 | mischief | stew, both say 2009.01.31 |
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| 17:41.50 | mischief | stew, funny, now aptitude update doesn't say that any more |
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| 17:42.40 | raboof_ | what's the easy way to download a .deb when it's already installed but also already removed from /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? |
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| 17:44.22 | nab | ? |
| 17:46.14 | akahn | aadil: ah, that sounds good, thanks |
| 17:46.20 | raboof | i'd like to inspect the original .deb file - of course i could just get it though the web interface at packages.debian.org, but there must be a command for that ;) |
| 17:46.40 | aadil | akahn, yw |
| 17:47.17 | \amethyst | raboof: apt-get -d install foo then look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 17:47.27 | \amethyst | raboof: (-d is download-only) |
| 17:48.05 | raboof | \amethyst: that doesn't do anything if the package is already installed |
| 17:48.18 | raboof | won't download it either |
| 17:48.26 | \amethyst | raboof: what about with --reinstall ? |
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| 17:49.00 | raboof | \amethyst: ha, good one |
| 17:49.04 | raboof | works like a charm, thanks |
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| 17:51.57 | xNinja | hello...how to force all msn connections to use port 8080 in iptables ? |
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| 17:58.18 | simonrvn | xNinja: redirect them to that port. i don't recall if msn im uses static ports - if not, then you're SOL. if it does, then find it and set a redirect. |
| 17:58.24 | abrotman | xNinja: you probably want to ask #iptables .. but you should be able to redirect connection attempts to a certain host on a certain port |
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| 17:58.47 | simonrvn | xNinja: you can't of course "force" them, they'll still use whatever effing port they use. |
| 17:58.50 | Manoj | \amethyst: Perhaps you need dpkg-repack ? |
| 17:58.57 | Danielss89 | Hi. I am having trouble connecting from outlook to my smtp server. I've bought a dedicated server with DEbian and plesk. I recieve emails to outlook but it wont send emails. It says it cant connect to smtp server. I've check the mail.error and mail.info, and theres nothing with SMTP, only a successfull login with IMAP |
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| 17:59.11 | simonrvn | xNinja: you'll have to set up one the other way also |
| 17:59.12 | Manoj | \amethyst: it takes an installed package and tries to re-create the .deb from it |
| 17:59.22 | simonrvn | ew, plesk |
| 17:59.24 | xNinja | what about redirect all the port range msn using to port 80 ? |
| 17:59.50 | simonrvn | why is that a different question? |
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| 18:01.31 | Danielss89 | simonrvn: Yeah i know :D someon said maybe port 25 was blocked. How can i test this, and open it if its blocked? |
| 18:02.14 | aadil | telnet? |
| 18:03.23 | xNinja | i think i got it how to do that thanks simonrvn / abrotman |
| 18:03.31 | simonrvn | np |
| 18:03.40 | Danielss89 | aadil: hmm telnet localhost says connection refused |
| 18:04.04 | aadil | u are doing that on yer server Danielss89 ? |
| 18:04.21 | Danielss89 | yes |
| 18:04.34 | aadil | is the mail server running? |
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| 18:05.05 | aadil | if so then its prolly the firewall |
| 18:05.12 | simonrvn | (no) |
| 18:05.18 | Danielss89 | well i can connect with IMAP aadil |
| 18:06.20 | aadil | simonrvn, no? |
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| 18:07.08 | simonrvn | aadil: no worries, just WRT "mail server running" |
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| 18:07.53 | aadil | heh k |
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| 18:08.52 | ajavid | simonrvn, hi |
| 18:08.59 | ajavid | aadil bhai! |
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| 18:09.40 | enouf | ok - Marshall 50w head finally hooked up to the vintage 1969 greenback cabinet -- rewired to 4ohms ;-).... this sucker cranks! |
| 18:09.57 | Danielss89 | aadil: http://pastebin.ca/1436511 <-- this is when i connect to the mail server from another server |
| 18:09.59 | ajavid | to your soundcard? |
| 18:10.00 | enouf | er 1971 head |
| 18:10.08 | ajavid | you trying to record? |
| 18:10.15 | enouf | ajavid: phone |
| 18:10.18 | ajavid | Debian studio? |
| 18:10.21 | ajavid | oh... nm |
| 18:10.25 | ajavid | :) |
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| 18:10.43 | ajavid | enouf, http://www.atirjavid.com/Zend-Framework/Tutorials/zendapplication-a-modular-directory-structure-quickstart.html <-- check it |
| 18:10.47 | ajavid | *afk* |
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| 18:11.39 | aadil | Danielss89, looks like u can access the smtp server |
| 18:11.47 | aadil | maybe its in the config |
| 18:11.59 | aadil | (dont have many ideas) |
| 18:12.16 | Danielss89 | ok.. |
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| 18:13.01 | miodi | hi, does someone happen to know a good guide to installing debian from a minimal setup? |
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| 18:13.43 | t_corr | the debian install cd? |
| 18:14.20 | deed02392 | what's the differnece between gnome-core and gdm? if all i want is a desktop environment when i vnc in (this server has no monitor) do i need 'gdm' or will 'gnome-core' and 'xorg' do? |
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| 18:14.36 | ajavid | miodi, minimal |
| 18:14.53 | ajavid | miodi, /msg dpkg mmhr |
| 18:15.18 | deed02392 | or in any case, is there anything smaller than gnome i could use |
| 18:15.19 | miodi | ok, thanks |
| 18:15.27 | deed02392 | all i need is a gui for wine |
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| 18:15.35 | ajavid | miodi, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en |
| 18:15.43 | abrotman | deed02392: you could install any window manager then |
| 18:15.49 | ajavid | miodi, also look at this, it will give you an idea of how much diskspace is required by components |
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| 18:15.59 | deed02392 | i know i 'could', but what's the smallest one? |
| 18:16.04 | ajavid | miodi, what sort of a machine are you working with? what are you limitations? |
| 18:16.57 | miodi | well just a regular i686 with 1+ gb ram, but i'd like to save it from all the bloat |
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| 18:19.15 | miodi | arajavid:so there actually aren't any terrible limitations |
| 18:19.15 | ajavid | miodi, begin by installing a base debian system. Next add any applications you want/need individually. As a tip to keep the system clean of suggested/recommended packages you can specify apt/aptitude to not install them automatically. Use the command-line switch -R or consult http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html |
| 18:19.52 | ajavid | miodi, it will keep a lot of the "bloat" away, if you need Y that X suggests, you can manually install it |
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| 18:21.11 | miodi | ok, kinda was wondering if there's a handy thorough guide on installing from the bottom up |
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| 18:21.28 | ajavid | You are your own guide. |
| 18:21.35 | miodi | i guess so :) |
| 18:21.44 | ajavid | Guide yo'self foo'! |
| 18:21.45 | miodi | thanks |
| 18:21.49 | ajavid | np |
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| 18:26.36 | acidslep | ok, well. I still have a problem with my X. |
| 18:26.49 | SiliconSavant | watches his ssh log fill up with attempts from "tsingy.net". Anyone seen that before? |
| 18:27.09 | acidslep | If i add a graphics card it breaks the configuration and my second monior will not work. |
| 18:27.48 | acidslep | http://pastebin.com/d1842a67c -- here is my conf file. in a pre-card state, both of the listed screens work fine. |
| 18:28.30 | acidslep | but simply adding another graphics card disables the second screen. The ONLY thing that has changed is the plugging in of this graphics card. Its still not connected to anything. what is causing this? |
| 18:28.56 | nkuttler | SiliconSavant: who cares, attacks happens all the time.. |
| 18:29.05 | ajavid | acidslep, bios setup |
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| 18:29.25 | ajavid | acidslep, make sure you select first boot video device, onboad or addon card |
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| 18:29.56 | acidslep | ok ill fiddle with the bios now. but it seems to me that it would be able to sort itself out after it had booted... |
| 18:30.00 | ajavid | hang on |
| 18:30.14 | ajavid | your pastebin is empty. |
| 18:30.24 | acidslep | fsck, it was only for a day |
| 18:30.31 | acidslep | just a sec |
| 18:30.46 | ajavid | regardless, I'm more interested in the Xorg.0.log file. |
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| 18:31.40 | hjb | anyone has an advice for me? i need an aduioplayer which lets me *directly* choose the device to play to |
| 18:31.53 | ajavid | acidslep, also give full details, how is your setup, what are you doing? whats connected already? etc. etc. Be as verbose as possible. |
| 18:32.01 | hjb | rhythmbox sucks, as i first has to run gnome-sound-properties |
| 18:32.07 | ajavid | hjb, xmms ? |
| 18:32.11 | hjb | xmms2 sucks because of it's client-server model |
| 18:32.14 | adama_ | aplay |
| 18:32.31 | hjb | aplay sucks because of a missing gui and codec support |
| 18:32.31 | ajavid | you suck. |
| 18:32.37 | acidslep | haha |
| 18:32.39 | hjb | ajavid: sorry then ;) |
| 18:32.41 | adama_ | mplayer |
| 18:32.53 | ajavid | don't apologize to me man, you're the one who sucks ;) |
| 18:33.04 | ajavid | j/k |
| 18:33.08 | hjb | ajavid: why? i'm just asking for something quite simple |
| 18:33.09 | acidslep | ajavid, the log has nothing in it, really. |
| 18:33.16 | acidslep | http://pastebin.com/m5905105e -- xorg.0.log |
| 18:33.21 | adama_ | I use xmms1 and love it but it's impossible to get any more :( |
| 18:33.43 | hjb | adama_: i loved it too... but like you say, it's not available anymore :-( |
| 18:34.03 | hjb | i need something that plays flac |
| 18:34.06 | hjb | and ogg |
| 18:34.06 | miodi | hjb: how about music player demon |
| 18:34.07 | adama_ | I'm listening to it now :D |
| 18:34.08 | hjb | and mp3 |
| 18:34.08 | stew | i belive audacious is probably the closest thing to xmms1 |
| 18:34.20 | nkuttler | yep, audacious |
| 18:34.20 | acidslep | i may have gotten it incorrectly.. (still fiddling with bios) |
| 18:34.42 | adama_ | you shouldn't have any trouble playing flac or ogg with anything |
| 18:35.16 | hjb | ok, i'll try audacious |
| 18:35.17 | ajavid | acidslep, have you tried newcard + Xorg + 2nd monitor automatically off + xrandr? |
| 18:35.25 | ajavid | acidslep, what says xrandr when the monitor is off. |
| 18:35.27 | hjb | hope it doesn't crash as much as bmpx ;) |
| 18:35.48 | ajavid | acidslep, xrandr -q |
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| 18:36.52 | acidslep | lemme boot back up. i checked xranr and it only listed one screen even though the xorg.conf it was using was working pre-card for both monitors |
| 18:37.03 | ajavid | acidslep, try this, install the new card, backup xorg.conf, dpkg-reconfigure a new blank/clean one, startx, if monitor is still off, xrandr -q, pastebin output |
| 18:37.59 | acidslep | ive done several variations of that, but i have not messed with the dpkg-reconfigure. i just used X -configure |
| 18:38.29 | acidslep | because that would enable both monitors pre-card |
| 18:38.30 | hjb | ok, audacious seems to be great for my task |
| 18:38.30 | ajavid | you want both monitors to work on new card? |
| 18:38.36 | hjb | thanks to all of you who've provided help :) |
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| 18:40.25 | acidslep | I don't want to over compilicate but, i have a computer with the onboard grapix and another grapix card. this works fine for dual-heading. i wish to add a third monitor so i add another graphics card. the onboard grapics stops working completly but the first graphix card works and the new one would work if i configured it. the point being that adding a grapics card to a working configuration breaks it. |
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| 18:40.38 | acidslep | :/ i did not mean to flood. |
| 18:41.41 | adama_ | don't your graphics cards have multiple connectors? |
| 18:42.02 | acidslep | older system. |
| 18:42.07 | acidslep | old parts and such. |
| 18:42.42 | acidslep | like the biggest vido mem of these cards is 64meg |
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| 18:43.36 | acidslep | what could be wrong? what i really want to know is how simply adding a card can break everything. |
| 18:43.43 | nab | I bought a red card encore ENL832-TX-RE debian don't recognice it...I must install an driver? |
| 18:43.45 | adama_ | sounds like the system board can't handle more than 2 video devices |
| 18:43.56 | nab | or mount an module? |
| 18:44.05 | adama_ | do they all 3 show the bootup? |
| 18:44.33 | dondelelcaro | acidslep: breaks everything in what way? |
| 18:44.40 | acidslep | no sir. only card1 shows the bootup |
| 18:44.58 | dondelelcaro | acidslep: there's nothing magical about three cards; you can have many cards all configured and working. It may require a custom xorg.conf, but it can be done |
| 18:45.04 | acidslep | right |
| 18:45.16 | acidslep | except something funny is happening in my case |
| 18:45.30 | dondelelcaro | acidslep: that's fine, but you need to tell us exactly how it's not working |
| 18:45.45 | acidslep | ive already talked the ears off the channel about it XD |
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| 18:46.46 | acidslep | i think the simplest way to think about it is thus: i have a working dual head configuration on an older machine. using the onboard video and a single video card. |
| 18:46.56 | wildc4rd | I am looking to dual boot my games PC, what is the driver support like for the newer nvidia cards and X-fi soundcards like under Debian? |
| 18:47.26 | acidslep | i wish to add another monitor and thus another grapics card. putting this grapix card in breaks the dual head-configuration |
| 18:47.33 | dondelelcaro | acidslep: and what does the xorg output say? |
| 18:47.49 | acidslep | does not mention any errots |
| 18:48.00 | acidslep | errors* |
| 18:48.22 | miodi | have you ruled out the possibility of a hardware limitation? |
| 18:48.27 | acidslep | nope |
| 18:48.50 | acidslep | i did check the bios for something i could change. but there is nothing that really deals with video or the pci bus |
| 18:48.50 | miodi | acidslep: i would check the motherboard manual if i was you then |
| 18:49.41 | acidslep | (installing lshw now) |
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| 18:50.16 | acidslep | have you seen a hardware limitation like that before? i would think that its not the case because the chipset being disabled is the integrated one.. |
| 18:50.21 | acidslep | know what i mean? |
| 18:50.45 | dondelelcaro | acidslep: doesn't matter if there aren't any errors. Looking at the output will tell you what it's doing and why it's not working |
| 18:51.37 | acidslep | but it does not even mention the second screen. i think. |
| 18:51.51 | miodi | acidslep: not really, but it doesn't hurt to check :p |
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| 18:53.08 | chrisvv2 | has anyone successfully use ifb? |
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| 18:53.56 | acidslep | ok, well. what should i do while im looking for the manual online? |
| 18:54.21 | nab | I bought a red card encore ENL832-TX-RE debian don't recognice it...I must install an driver? |
| 18:54.21 | nab | or mount an module? |
| 18:54.51 | nab | lspci says http://pastebin.ca/1436559 |
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| 18:56.20 | xingu | acidslep: how old, exactly? it may be that the pci card you have has a video bios which is intelligent enough to switch off the vga core - and, that the one you're attempting to install, does not. |
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| 18:56.37 | bitshuffler | Hello. I got another .deb packaging question: How do I specify if a file should go into the main or the -dev package? |
| 18:57.12 | dondelelcaro | bitshuffler: if you're using debhelper, see dh_install(7) |
| 18:57.16 | xingu | acidslep: (the implication being, only one vga core can be mapped to the - well known, and as such essentially immutable) - memory mappings and io ports. |
| 18:57.39 | bitshuffler | dondelelcaro: thanks for the pointer :) |
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| 18:58.53 | acidslep | so, in a situation where two antique video cards are competeing to be the main vga core, one will lose and be unusable? |
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| 18:59.09 | xingu | acidslep: actually in the worst case both will win and one will fry. |
| 18:59.16 | acidslep | haha |
| 18:59.59 | xingu | acidslep: but yes, that's the gist of it; if the ports and io memory are already registered *generally* the video bios rom is smart enough to power down - either the vga core, or, the whole asic. |
| 19:00.37 | nab | nobody? |
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| 19:01.48 | acidslep | the vga core that gets registered will be the one to spit out the boot information and the bios post screen and such? |
| 19:01.51 | xingu | acidslep: some antique cards used to have a jumper or a software tool to control this; the bios toggle is usually only for the "onboard" device (usually, an asic on a regular pci or agp bus - the difference being it's unsocketed, the bus is just traces on the pcb) |
| 19:01.58 | xingu | acidslep: exactly so. |
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| 19:03.09 | xingu | acidslep: having said that I'm aware of a class business pc - I think netvistas - which were specifically designed for various dualhead configurations and had much more extensive control (to go along with their much more expensive aftermarket video cards) |
| 19:03.57 | xingu | acidslep: if you want a robust answer I'd point you in the direction of matrox; either the dualhead2go hardware approach or their MGA cards which are more than likely the right vintage for you |
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| 19:04.32 | xingu | acidslep: although perhaps 64KiB of vram rules out the former |
| 19:06.45 | acidslep | heh, true. i think ill check the cards for jumper spots. thanks for explaining the core basics to me. :) |
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| 19:07.14 | blakew | I am experiencing an error with system time / local time (hwclock times out) after a unexpected power failure does anyone know what could be the issue? |
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| 19:08.32 | blakew | the specific error is "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" |
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| 19:09.25 | nickgrey147 | why cant i install vmware server :/ http://pastebin.com/m714a4d34 ? is it gcc because that doesnt normaly matter ? |
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| 19:11.36 | acidslep | even if thats not the main problem, you should still be using the right compiler. |
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| 19:13.20 | nickgrey147 | ok ill give it a shot but iam quite sure it wont work :/ |
| 19:17.40 | acidslep | judging from this error log, that is your problem. 27-28 is tells you exactly whats wrong. |
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| 19:21.06 | nickgrey147 | acidslep: hahahahhahah touche' :) |
| 19:21.07 | sylarrr | anyone has any tips for raid5 with mdadm? |
| 19:21.12 | nickgrey147 | thanks |
| 19:21.24 | sylarrr | My mdadm performance sucks |
| 19:21.47 | sylarrr | where it is good, it is still behind |
| 19:22.01 | sylarrr | like single drive 62MB/s |
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| 19:22.46 | nickgrey147 | acidslep: so how do i fix that . i normaly ignore it with nvidia drivers and stuff :/ , must i uninstall all the newer versions of gcc i have ? |
| 19:22.50 | sylarrr | 3drivers raid5, read 120MB/s instead of 180MB/s, and write speed of 70MB/s instead of 120MB/s |
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| 19:23.46 | acidslep | honestly, im not positive. i think if you just change some symlinks around. thatll fix it. do you have the proper version installed at all? |
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| 19:24.00 | oliver_g2 | hi |
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| 19:24.44 | nickgrey147 | acidslep: proper version of ? |
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| 19:25.22 | gueux | hi |
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| 19:25.42 | jelly-home | sylarrr: 2x the speed of element sounds like maximum for a 3 element raid5, isn't it? |
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| 19:26.24 | gueux | I've installed xfce and xfce4-mount-plugin and I would like to mount my usb disk by using the icon on the desktop |
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| 19:26.50 | gueux | but when I click on it, it gives me an error concerning the permissions |
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| 19:28.15 | oliver_g2 | a question about bug 528749 |
| 19:28.27 | oliver_g2 | (Cyrus SASL library buffer overflow vulnerability) |
| 19:28.38 | odla` | gueux: are you in group plugdev? |
| 19:28.47 | oliver_g2 | it looks like the new packages are only built for lenny |
| 19:28.50 | odla` | gueux: open a terminal and type groups |
| 19:28.58 | gueux | odla`: yes |
| 19:29.01 | odla` | gueux: tell me if plugdev is there |
| 19:29.05 | odla` | oh |
| 19:29.07 | gueux | odla`: it is |
| 19:29.37 | oliver_g2 | there doesn't seem to be an update for the etch version (2.1.22.dfsg1-8) |
| 19:29.41 | gueux | the fstab is ok, I can do a mount mydisk |
| 19:29.55 | odla` | gueux: and you have the thunar-volman installed i persume? |
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| 19:30.09 | oliver_g2 | the bug is already marked as fixed; can I still reply to that, or should that go into a new bug report? |
| 19:30.26 | jelly-home | oliver_g2: does the tracker of doom report the etch version as vulnerable? |
| 19:30.45 | jelly-home | !tracker of doom |
| 19:30.46 | dpkg | it has been said that tracker of doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.net or read http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ or http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences |
| 19:30.56 | gueux | odla`: yes |
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| 19:31.16 | oliver_g2 | jelly-home: I'll check that, moment |
| 19:31.36 | odla` | gueux: also i'm not sure that /etc/fstab is suppose to be edited for removable devices ... maybe that's your problem? |
| 19:32.06 | odla` | gueux: i have no entries about my usb devices in /etc/fstab |
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| 19:32.17 | oliver_g2 | jelly-home: yes, looks like the etch version is vulnerable |
| 19:32.21 | oliver_g2 | http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/CVE-2009-0688 |
| 19:32.37 | gueux | it just adds permissions |
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| 19:32.50 | stew | oliver_g2: you'd certainly not open another bug for the same bug. the bug tracking system is able to track which version it was fixed in and know that the etch version is still unfixed |
| 19:32.54 | oliver_g2 | actually all versions except for sid are vulnerable... |
| 19:32.55 | odla` | gueux: but did you set a mount point or something? |
| 19:33.00 | oliver_g2 | ok |
| 19:33.21 | jelly-home | oliver_g2: well, fixes for stable usually take precedence over oldstable |
| 19:33.31 | stew | do they? |
| 19:33.52 | stew | oliver_g2: if its just been fixed in sid, i'd expect a DSA soon |
| 19:34.09 | stew | oliver_g2: and I'd expect it to be fixed in both etch and lenny at the same time |
| 19:34.15 | oliver_g2 | ok then |
| 19:34.26 | oliver_g2 | thanks for your help :-) |
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| 19:34.41 | jelly-home | stew: the few times I've seen them not being released at the same time, it was usually oldstable that lagged |
| 19:34.51 | stew | ok |
| 19:35.06 | gueux | odla`: yes, I mount it in /media/usb_disk/ |
| 19:35.33 | jelly-home | but yeah, DSAs are usually released with fixes for all supported releases |
| 19:35.50 | oliver_g2 | jelly-home: btw. that security-tracker link is pretty neat |
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| 19:36.06 | oliver_g2 | good to know there's a place to check this |
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| 19:38.26 | ansichart | I need help fixing an audio problem on my debian machine. For some reason, all my audio is only being played out of my left speaker, and it didn't always do this in debian. I am not sure when this problem started either. I do know that both speakers do work, because I don't have this problem in Windows. |
| 19:39.24 | gueux | odla`: http://pastealacon/3087 here is my /etc/fstab |
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| 19:39.43 | acidslep | nickgrey147, did you get it to work? |
| 19:39.45 | petemc | ansichart: looked at alsamixer? |
| 19:40.26 | acidslep | ansichart i would try speaker-test -t wave -c 2 |
| 19:40.35 | acidslep | -t wav* |
| 19:40.37 | johndoe | FORÇA BARÇA |
| 19:40.46 | odla` | gueux: i am not sure ... i might suggest commenting out that line and rebooting and see if it works |
| 19:40.56 | ansichart | Everything seems find in alsamixer, volume is at max for both left and right channels. |
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| 19:41.37 | r0rr3 | well, is anybody familliar with moc player? |
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| 19:42.03 | ansichart | petemc, Everything seems find in alsamixer, volume is at max for both left and right channels. |
| 19:42.19 | acidslep | ansichart, did you try a speaker test? |
| 19:43.30 | oliver_g2 | ansichart: did you check all mixers in alsamixer? maybe some other mixer has weird settings... |
| 19:43.42 | ansichart | acidslep, a speaker test? Like, to see if it's a hardware problem with the speakers?--Because they both work fine in Windows. |
| 19:44.05 | oliver_g2 | (isn't there some "alsactl restore" cmd which restores install-time mixer configuration?) |
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| 19:45.56 | ansichart | oliver_g2, I checked all the options in alsamixer, everything checks out. |
| 19:46.07 | acidslep | speaker-test -c 2 |
| 19:46.22 | ansichart | acidslep, I'll try that. |
| 19:48.39 | ansichart | acidslep, yea, only the left speaker is playing |
| 19:49.10 | acidslep | ugh |
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| 19:50.40 | acidslep | try running alsaconf? |
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| 19:51.04 | acidslep | i think that will reconfigure your card. |
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| 19:54.13 | acidslep | anything? |
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| 19:54.55 | ansichart | acidslep, trying it now. |
| 19:55.19 | ansichart | acidslep, Okay, I configured it... and still no right speaker. |
| 19:57.25 | acidslep | hmm |
| 19:57.36 | acidslep | i don't really know the. |
| 19:57.43 | jelly-home | "check your cabling" |
| 19:58.00 | acidslep | *then. you could try installing oss. |
| 19:58.04 | acidslep | he said it works fine in windows |
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| 19:58.17 | quitte | i didn't see the question. but i'd think cabling or bad soldering joint |
| 19:58.27 | hark | ansichart: pastebin amixer output |
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| 20:00.08 | ansichart | hark, http://pastebin.com/m4c49fa41 |
| 20:00.27 | hark | ansichart: you can also try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
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| 20:01.52 | ansichart | hark, that reset command fixed it, thanks! |
| 20:02.11 | acidslep | alsactl restore? |
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| 20:02.22 | acidslep | oh! cool. |
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| 20:02.39 | hark | Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] |
| 20:02.42 | ansichart | Thanks for the help acidslep and hark |
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| 20:03.06 | ansichart | by the way acidslep , do you use LSD? |
| 20:03.59 | acidslep | :/ is that ok? |
| 20:04.11 | quitte | #debian-offtopic,please or maybe even a private conversation? |
| 20:04.21 | ansichart | acidslep, I am a psychonaut. |
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| 20:04.35 | acidslep | pm me? |
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| 20:10.52 | junix | i need to get an old copy of Debian 4.0r8/9, where can i download this from? |
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| 20:13.49 | mats_ | hello, i need help: every time i try to install a new package i get the error 404 |
| 20:13.55 | greycat | mats_: apt-get update |
| 20:14.00 | mats_ | what does it mean? what should i do |
| 20:14.12 | mats_ | greycat i already did |
| 20:14.21 | mats_ | many times |
| 20:14.30 | JPT | well.... 404 => not found => server problem... |
| 20:14.37 | mats_ | and so |
| 20:14.38 | greycat | Or you have the wrong URL. |
| 20:14.50 | mats_ | i mean i can still serve in the internet |
| 20:14.54 | junix | can jigdo, Debian Etch still? |
| 20:15.08 | mats_ | why wrong url |
| 20:15.14 | greycat | mats_: what version of Debian, and have you tried a different mirror site? |
| 20:15.24 | quitte | junix: can't think of a reason why it wouldnt work |
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| 20:15.29 | mats_ | no i haven't |
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| 20:15.34 | junix | quitte: i'm trying to get the jigdo files.... |
| 20:15.37 | junix | no luck |
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| 20:15.41 | mats_ | what would you propose |
| 20:15.47 | mats_ | ? greycat |
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| 20:16.10 | mats_ | i'm using ubuntu but for the moment i took the normal debian servers |
| 20:16.11 | greycat | I'd propose that you answer the questions. |
| 20:16.16 | greycat | Ah, I see. |
| 20:16.26 | greycat | In that case, I'd propose that you go to #ubuntu. |
| 20:16.44 | quitte | junix: ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 20:16.57 | quitte | junix: or any other mirror |
| 20:17.06 | quitte | except mats_, i guess |
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| 20:17.44 | mats_ | quitte ??? what do you mean |
| 20:17.45 | mats_ | 0 |
| 20:17.46 | mats_ | ? |
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| 20:18.04 | junix | quitte: where are the jidgo files? |
| 20:18.52 | quitte | junix: h |
| 20:19.11 | junix | i don't want to have to use netinst |
| 20:19.29 | quitte | i have no idea. but if you didn't need full cd sets you could aswell use the gtk mini iso ... ok then |
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| 20:20.37 | quitte | junix: but why would you install an os that won't get security updates after Q1 2010 anyways? |
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| 20:21.29 | junix | cause, i need to install 4.0r8 since 5.0.1 won't recognize the SAS RAID array on the new Dell PowerEdge R610s' |
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| 20:22.53 | junix | these new servers won't work with 5.0.1 |
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| 20:23.14 | quitte | junix: ok. sounds to me like you are installing to some kind of server that will be in use for a while. even more reason to rather get lenny to work than not have security updates? |
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| 20:23.52 | junix | quitte: i have lenny AMD64 |
| 20:23.58 | junix | but it won't recognize the RAID array |
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| 20:24.28 | dam | Sorry people, this is a bit off topic but I hoped someone could point me in a more appropriate direction for some help. I've been charged with building a server (it will be running debian:) and I'd like to get the benefit of some other people's advice. Is there a channel that's suited to that kind of discussion? |
| 20:24.48 | abrotman | dam: you mean like who to buy from? |
| 20:24.55 | abrotman | or what parts to buy? |
| 20:25.24 | quitte | junix: and it worked with etch? |
| 20:25.38 | junix | it seems that it does, from waht i have read.... |
| 20:25.46 | junix | once i get 4.0 installed... |
| 20:25.46 | stew | junix: you might try /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 20:25.54 | dam | Yes, and about getting the hardware specs right |
| 20:26.28 | acidslep | but there are other things in there! |
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| 20:29.02 | valdyn | !tell dam -about ask |
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| 20:29.13 | valdyn | !tell dam -about justask |
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| 20:30.02 | dam | What's that? A website or a channel? |
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| 20:30.35 | valdyn | dam: some information about how to use this channel |
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| 20:31.46 | dam | Thank you valdyn et al |
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| 20:33.53 | lupine_85 | hesitantly pokes LTSP and Debian |
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| 20:46.32 | Tuxo | hi |
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| 20:49.25 | acidslep | do you feel worse of for the chemical part of the pills? |
| 20:49.37 | abrotman | acidslep: wrong channel |
| 20:49.47 | wohdfoh | ntfs-3g-mount: failed to access mountpoint /media/wd: Transport endpoint is not connected |
| 20:49.49 | acidslep | wrong window, sorry guys. |
| 20:49.54 | wohdfoh | i was trying to mount a ntfs hdd |
| 20:50.20 | wohdfoh | using the command 'mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdx /media/wd |
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| 20:50.42 | wohdfoh | anyone seen this before? |
| 20:50.43 | marco_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAvyEwEztLw |
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| 20:52.01 | abrotman | marco_: #debian-offtopic |
| 20:52.05 | acidslep | whats happening!? |
| 20:52.25 | abrotman | !tell acidslep about netsplit |
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| 20:52.49 | acidslep | i think dpkg is dead |
| 20:53.03 | abrotman | long live RPM! |
| 20:53.13 | acidslep | hehe |
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| 20:54.15 | Tuxo | wohdfo: check that pacakges are installed regarding ntfs-3g |
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| 20:58.47 | wohdfoh | can i manually add an entry to fstab? if i do do i need to reboot or what? |
| 20:58.57 | lupine_85 | yes you can, no you don't |
| 20:59.08 | lupine_85 | (after adding, mount -a to get it to take effect) |
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| 20:59.29 | wohdfoh | thx |
| 21:00.30 | wohdfoh | would type for ntfs be just ntfs? |
| 21:00.38 | wohdfoh | or ntfs-3g |
| 21:00.49 | miodi | hey all, i just installed a fresh lenny and i'm getting no video, just a "out of range" message on my screen |
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| 21:01.26 | wohdfoh | miodi: had that once. no video at all? |
| 21:01.38 | wohdfoh | and you have checked the connection? |
| 21:02.18 | miodi | wohdfoh: the terminals do work but xorg doesn't give anything out |
| 21:02.39 | wohdfoh | miodi: for me it was video drivers. i had to log into console and download the correct video drivers. then install them before i could use xorg |
| 21:02.44 | wohdfoh | what is your card? |
| 21:02.54 | miodi | nvidia geforce 7600gs |
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| 21:03.30 | wohdfoh | same card i had. you need to install the drivers before you can use xorg |
| 21:03.43 | wohdfoh | !tell miodi about nvidia |
| 21:04.00 | miodi | ok, i'll install the drivers in cli and try again |
| 21:04.03 | miodi | thanks alot |
| 21:04.43 | wohdfoh | the people here will tell you to use the debian method for installing the drivers. i have always just gone with nvidia's binary from their support site. |
| 21:04.49 | wohdfoh | miodi: ^^ |
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| 21:05.27 | miodi | wohdfod: i think i'll go the debian way also :p |
| 21:05.39 | wohdfoh | good luck |
| 21:06.13 | wohdfoh | dpkg knows reverything about how to install |
| 21:06.13 | miodi | wohdfod: i've done before so all should go well |
| 21:06.13 | lupine_85 | The Debian Way(tm) works quite nicely and happens to comply with Debian policy :) |
| 21:06.14 | dpkg | wohdfoh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 21:08.16 | wohdfoh | <wohdfoh> the people here will tell you to use the debian method for installing the drivers. |
| 21:08.37 | wohdfoh | so how about adding that entry to fstab? |
| 21:09.03 | flashdisk16mb | i have a sandisk 16mb flashdisk pcmcia card ata which becomes an 8MB flashdisk after being formatted. What mini-distro o shall i say micro distro can i install on it? Will i be able to boot from the pcmcia card? |
| 21:09.11 | bolt | I'm having a problem with an ext3 filesystem in a lvm on a raid5... problem is df reports 0 free space. size=70177608 used=67359400 avail=0. this doesn't make sense. i unmounted it, ran e2fsck, it completed without errors stating 96% used space on the fs. remounted, df still says it's full. i can write a 600mb file to it without trouble. what's up? |
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| 21:09.32 | junix | i am trying to jigdo an old version of Debian 4.0r8, where do i tell jigdo to look at what folder in the repository? |
| 21:09.32 | lupine_85 | bolt: it's not the reserved space thing is it? |
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| 21:10.05 | bolt | lupine_85: hm.. that would be 5%, wouldn't it? good point... |
| 21:10.10 | luke | How should I make a backup of my Debian (Lenny) installation? Just copy the root directory / to an external device, or is there a more comfortable way? |
| 21:10.15 | bolt | lupine_85: didn't think df would show that though |
| 21:10.20 | lupine_85 | if you can write as root but not as the user, that'll be it |
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| 21:10.29 | lupine_85 | does df as root show the space as available? |
| 21:10.30 | bolt | lupine_85: testing |
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| 21:10.38 | bolt | lupine_85: nope. checking writing as user |
| 21:10.52 | ajavid | 4.0 is not supported |
| 21:10.54 | lupine_85 | is uncertain whether it should or not |
| 21:10.59 | ajavid | why are you tring to use debian 4.0 |
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| 21:11.01 | b52 | hey fellas, any idea where i could get a cgit patched version of gitosis, like the one from gentoo? |
| 21:12.00 | \amethyst | luke: you might consider rdiff-backup or faubackup---they do incremental backups as directory trees with unchanged files being hard links to the previous backup |
| 21:12.08 | bolt | lupine_85: that actually seems to be it. the user can touch to create empty files, but can not make empty directories nor files with data in them |
| 21:12.19 | \amethyst | luke: kind of like how time machine works under the hood |
| 21:12.21 | bolt | lupine_85: why the heck df as root shows 0 free space is beyond me though |
| 21:12.45 | \amethyst | luke: if you do use cp, make sure you use -a to preserve permissions, ownership, etc |
| 21:12.47 | lupine_85 | bolt: mm, I'd have thought it'd show the appropriate amount depending on whether you were root or not |
| 21:12.59 | lupine_85 | you can use tune2fs to reduce the reserved allocation, anyway |
| 21:13.19 | bolt | lupine_85: did that. now it shows correct amount of free space |
| 21:13.24 | bolt | lupine_85: heh.. thanks :) |
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| 21:14.02 | bolt | lupine_85: i did actually think of it a while back in my debugging process, but since root gave the same thing, i didn't think twice about it |
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| 21:14.18 | lupine_85 | np :) |
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| 21:14.30 | \amethyst | luke: if you just want to have the most recent version backed up, and don't care about old versions of changed files, you can use rsync -a (it won't copy unchanged files, so it saves you some time) |
| 21:14.33 | ajavid | im back |
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| 21:14.58 | \amethyst | luke: also, you might want cp -x otherwise it will copy /proc /sys etc, which you probably don't want |
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| 21:15.18 | ajavid | !ops ^SertaP [n=sOLcan@85.108.182.194] == onjoin spam |
| 21:15.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: ajavid complains about: ^SertaP [n=sOLcan@85.108.182.194] == onjoin spam |
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| 21:15.31 | RichiH | cb |
| 21:15.39 | tomaw | ajavid: ta |
| 21:15.43 | RichiH | aye |
| 21:15.45 | ajavid | np |
| 21:15.48 | \amethyst | luke: and, for that matter, it will copy the backup filesystem too if you point it at / :) likewise rsync has an -x option to stay within one filesystem |
| 21:15.53 | bolt | cb? |
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| 21:16.35 | tomaw | bolt: irssi shortcut to run crapbuster which removes various lines from the scrollback |
| 21:16.44 | ajavid | oh |
| 21:16.48 | ajavid | why use crapbuster? |
| 21:16.48 | bolt | ah |
| 21:16.56 | ajavid | 04:14 Ignorance List: |
| 21:16.57 | ajavid | 04:14 1 *: CRAP JOINS PARTS QUITS KICKS MODES TOPICS NICKS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS |
| 21:17.03 | ajavid | doesn't this do about the same? |
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| 21:17.19 | gewt | -.- |
| 21:17.21 | ajavid | (for me its great config) |
| 21:17.24 | gewt | i just wasted an error installing debian |
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| 21:17.32 | lupine_85 | humm. I'm setting up a dhcpd server but getting this: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 29: subnet 89.16.171.40 netmask 255.255.255.240: bad subnet number/mask combination. |
| 21:17.33 | ajavid | wasted an error? |
| 21:17.45 | lupine_85 | anyone have a clue what I'm doing wrong? |
| 21:17.50 | gewt | hour |
| 21:17.52 | stew | gewt: there are tons of errors, don't worry about wasting a couple |
| 21:17.59 | lupine_85 | oh, wait, it's a /29, not a /28 |
| 21:18.18 | ajavid | oh wasted an hour |
| 21:18.35 | b52 | any idea how i could build this package for debian? http://packages.gentoo.org/package/dev-util/gitosis-gentoo |
| 21:18.40 | ajavid | gewt, are you having problems while installing debian? |
| 21:18.41 | gewt | i reinstalled because I got grub error 18. |
| 21:18.51 | gewt | I repartitioned and created a seperate /boto partition |
| 21:18.55 | gewt | now I get error 17 |
| 21:19.23 | stew | b52: realize that debian already has a gitosis package. |
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| 21:19.52 | ajavid | gewt, its not ext4 by anychance is it? |
| 21:19.56 | ajavid | gewt, your /boot ? |
| 21:20.08 | b52 | stew: but not with the gentoo patches |
| 21:20.10 | gewt | it's ext2 |
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| 21:20.15 | gewt | and like 125mb |
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| 21:20.20 | stew | b52: you want to make this package for yourself or for inclusion in debian? |
| 21:20.20 | b52 | and i would like to use this patches which make gitosis support cgit |
| 21:20.41 | b52 | for myself |
| 21:20.57 | gewt | i'd make some cd to boot it, but my desktops cd dirve is to my knowledge, dead |
| 21:20.57 | ajavid | 17 : Cannot mount selected partition: This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. |
| 21:21.07 | gewt | ... |
| 21:21.21 | gewt | do I need to wast another hour and a half reinstalling dbeian? |
| 21:21.23 | stew | b52: well the easiest thing would probably be to get the source of the debian pacakge, apply the patches, bump the version number inthe debian package and rebuild it |
| 21:21.24 | ajavid | 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS: This error is returned when a read is attempted at a linear block address beyond the end of the BIOS translated area. This generally happens if your disk is larger than the BIOS can handle (512MB for (E)IDE disks on older machines or larger than 8GB in general). |
| 21:21.29 | gewt | and tehn have it fail, and tehn re-do it again? |
| 21:21.34 | stew | b52: see /msg dpkg source |
| 21:21.35 | ajavid | you got error 18, repartitioned, now error 17 |
| 21:21.38 | gewt | and again? and again? |
| 21:21.43 | gewt | ajavid, yes |
| 21:21.55 | gewt | I resized my / partition, and created an ext2 /boot |
| 21:21.58 | stew | b52: you also might look at /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 21:23.41 | gewt | so what do I do to fix it? |
| 21:24.44 | pngwn | w00t |
| 21:25.44 | b52 | stew: how can i remove the build-dep packages after the build? |
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| 21:25.58 | stew | b52: aptitude remove package1 package2 package3... |
| 21:26.32 | gewt | /dev/hdc3 (/boot) is intact |
| 21:27.40 | b52 | he tells me that debian/control doesnt exist, but a debian/control.in is supplied |
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| 21:28.35 | quitte | build-dep marks the packages as manually installed? otherwise a autoremove should do the trick |
| 21:28.47 | gewt | I should give up and reinstall again shouldn't I? |
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| 21:29.28 | stew | b52: show us the actual command you typed and the actual output, use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 21:29.40 | stew | quitte: yes, as manually installed |
| 21:29.58 | quitte | thats stupid. i hope there'S a bugreport |
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| 21:30.13 | stew | quitte: its not stupid |
| 21:30.46 | stew | quitte: otherwise "aptitude build-dep packagename ; aptitude install otherpacakgename" and it removes all the build-deps again before you have a chance to build? |
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| 21:31.26 | quitte | stew: im using apt and i have to explicitly tell it to remove stuff |
| 21:31.29 | gewt | o_O |
| 21:31.38 | gewt | my hdd is /dev/hdcX |
| 21:31.57 | gewt | should I tyr manually booting form hd0 or hd1 hd2? |
| 21:31.59 | sylarrr | anyone know to tweak mdadm raid5 performance? |
| 21:32.04 | quitte | stew: and there really should be a way to get rid of the build-deps after you are done building |
| 21:32.11 | stew | quitte: i agree |
| 21:32.40 | gewt | should |
| 21:32.41 | gewt | i |
| 21:32.43 | gewt | just |
| 21:32.44 | gewt | reinstall |
| 21:33.13 | Kazuha | gewt: Yes, you should reinstall your spacebar. |
| 21:33.16 | quitte | gewt is your system broken or not? if you have just bootloader trouble theres no need to reinstall |
| 21:33.40 | quitte | s/system/root filesystem |
| 21:33.58 | gewt | quitte, grub states that the selected cylinder exceeds the bios maximum -.- |
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| 21:34.11 | gewt | when tyrign to manaully boot |
| 21:34.22 | gewt | and error 17 when not mnaually tyring |
| 21:34.47 | quitte | gewt: try if you can get in tzhe system with the rescue mode of the debian installer. if you can you can also fix grub |
| 21:34.58 | gewt | I did rescue mode |
| 21:35.03 | gewt | and I did grub-install |
| 21:35.04 | pawel314 | Is it possible to check which packages have been installed recently, e.g. command to show 10 newest packages? |
| 21:35.21 | stew | pawel314: you can look at /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 21:35.47 | quitte | gewt: without any arguments to it? |
| 21:35.51 | gewt | no |
| 21:35.53 | pawel314 | thx stew |
| 21:35.56 | gewt | hd0 was the argument |
| 21:36.10 | gewt | /dev/hdc3 is /boot |
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| 21:36.26 | gewt | ...which apparently has a cylinder taht exceeds the bios maximum |
| 21:36.33 | quitte | gewt: ugh. uhm how old is that machine? |
| 21:36.33 | gewt | come to think pf it, all partitions do according to grub |
| 21:36.45 | gewt | quitte, it dates to about 1999,2000 |
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| 21:36.56 | quitte | gewt: and your hdd is rather big? |
| 21:36.59 | gewt | 200GB |
| 21:37.04 | gewt | it worked before |
| 21:37.19 | gewt | the only thing I changed since then is using graphical install |
| 21:37.27 | gewt | i selected everythign in one aprtition |
| 21:37.30 | gewt | and that fasiled |
| 21:37.35 | gewt | so I shrunk /, and created /boot |
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| 21:37.55 | quitte | gewt: grub is right. you need /boot atthe beginning |
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| 21:38.00 | gewt | if I rreinstall, I ened to waste an horu I don't hardly have downloading stuff |
| 21:38.11 | gewt | quitte, is that possible without entirely repartitioning |
| 21:38.30 | quitte | gewt: no. but you could do the repartitioning with gparted |
| 21:38.46 | bolt | how can I resize logical volumes with ext3 on them without losing data? i want to remove 10 gigs of space from one volume and add it to another |
| 21:38.57 | gewt | but how will I move /boot to be the first paretition? |
| 21:38.58 | quitte | gewt: but moving big partitions might take longerthan just reinstalling |
| 21:39.21 | gewt | quitte, I woudln't have to go through the installer again, it would eb unattended :0 |
| 21:39.24 | gewt | :)* |
| 21:39.31 | gewt | i'm abotu to plain gvie up with debian |
| 21:39.38 | quitte | gewt: well then just do it. |
| 21:39.52 | gewt | i attempted last night to install debian so I could use it for an audio editing system and stuff |
| 21:39.56 | gewt | but nope, that failed |
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| 21:40.02 | pickcoder | gewt: linux can access beyond the BIOS address limits, but BIOS can't |
| 21:40.04 | quitte | gewt: wont help. this is a bios limitation that you will run into with all oses |
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| 21:40.15 | pickcoder | boot has to be in the lower range |
| 21:40.24 | pickcoder | and the partition can't expand past the BIOS read limits |
| 21:40.31 | gewt | wastes another hour erasing disk and re-downloading 700MB |
| 21:40.44 | stew | pickcoder: does grub use bios to access the drive? i didnt' think so |
| 21:40.58 | pickcoder | stew: I didn't say it did |
| 21:41.02 | quitte | gewt: its unattended.so do something else instead ofjustwasting the time |
| 21:41.07 | pickcoder | but if the partition is too large will BIOS recognize it properly? |
| 21:41.16 | ajavid | gewt, back |
| 21:41.23 | stew | pickcoder: why does it matter if bios recognizes it? |
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| 21:41.28 | ajavid | gewt, did you get it figured out yet? |
| 21:41.39 | ajavid | apparantly not |
| 21:41.59 | pickcoder | stew: ok I'm wrong and I'll go away |
| 21:42.05 | stew | pickcoder: i don't know if you are wrong or not |
| 21:42.11 | stew | pickcoder: really |
| 21:42.15 | quitte | stew: grub complained aboutthe selected cylinder exceeding the bios maximum |
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| 21:42.55 | stew | hmm |
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| 21:44.07 | Selveste1_ | Hey - Im running Debian lenny - I have an self-signed cert for apache ssl but is there a way to push the master cert to the client so they don't have to verified my self-signed cert every time ? |
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| 21:44.35 | snooops | hey dudes, im getting: Depends: proftpd-basic but it is not going to be installed if im trying to install proftpd |
| 21:44.48 | snooops | via apt-get install |
| 21:44.59 | gewt | i give up with a full de -.- |
| 21:45.09 | stew | ok, yes, grub DOES use bios |
| 21:45.10 | Selveste1_ | snooops: try apt-get install proftpd --fix-missing |
| 21:45.10 | gewt | i'll install fluxbox after my minimal install |
| 21:45.22 | gewt | no minimal, it doesn't even install standard |
| 21:45.29 | quitte | gewt wait |
| 21:45.56 | snooops | Selveste1_ : nope, still getting this error, also it says "E: Broken packages" |
| 21:45.59 | quitte | gewt: save /var/cache/apt/archives somewhere and put it back after the base install |
| 21:46.11 | quitte | gewt: or inject it after repartitioning |
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| 21:46.24 | gewt | I will still need to wait for stuff to download on a 1.5mb/s dsl connection |
| 21:46.26 | quitte | gewt: will save you the redownloading |
| 21:46.55 | quitte | gewt: have youlooked whats in there? |
| 21:47.00 | copper__ | when im in the terminal and a file is in bold text, does that indicate something about its permissions? |
| 21:47.08 | gewt | will a 7GB / partition masrked as bootable cause failure? |
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| 21:47.50 | themill | dpkg: tell snooops about bat |
| 21:48.04 | Selveste1_ | snooops: What version of deb are you running ? |
| 21:48.13 | snooops | lenny |
| 21:48.16 | quitte | gewt: I forgot about all those limits. just pick something reasonable as /boot. like 100M for example |
| 21:48.31 | gewt | OK |
| 21:48.36 | gewt | i'll go manually partition -.- |
| 21:49.18 | Selveste1_ | snooops: try to install it with dpkg then http://packages.debian.org/lenny/proftpd-basic :) |
| 21:49.41 | snooops | ok |
| 21:50.14 | themill | snooops: can you provide us with more information as the dpkg bot requested? The entire output of your aptitude/apt-get run would be handy |
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| 21:51.54 | epsas | is there a good doc about securing a debian installation? |
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| 21:52.13 | snooops | here is the output of apt-get install proftpd http://nopaste.info/561c279af2.html |
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| 21:53.40 | stew | snooops: show us the output of "apt-cache policy proftpd proftpd-basic" |
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| 21:53.53 | themill | snooops: and the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy proftpd proftpd-basic" |
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| 21:55.05 | snooops | apt-cache policy : http://nopaste.info/4726106e6a.html |
| 21:55.41 | snooops | apt-cache policy proftpd proftpd-basic: http://nopaste.info/fbba26830e.html |
| 21:56.24 | acidslep | it matches the symptoms i read online of a small dosage |
| 21:56.31 | acidslep | seperation of hemispheres |
| 21:56.32 | stew | snooops: so you are trying to mix stable and unstable, which isn't recommended and is unsupported |
| 21:56.39 | snooops | oh ok |
| 21:56.42 | themill | snooops: when you said that you were running lenny, did you mean a mixture of lenny and sid? |
| 21:57.10 | acidslep | Sorry, wrong window. How can you mix debian releases? |
| 21:57.24 | snooops | omg youre right |
| 21:57.26 | snooops | thx guys ^^ |
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| 21:58.05 | pickcoder | acidslep: by changing the sources.list and installing software without doing a dist-upgrade first |
| 21:58.14 | RedMushroom | does lenny come with a fortran compiler preinstalled? |
| 21:58.15 | themill | snooops: you might want to "/msg which repo" to try to work out what else you've got from sid in there. |
| 21:58.36 | themill | RedMushroom: no, but gfortran is only an apt-get away. |
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| 21:58.45 | RedMushroom | thanks |
| 21:58.50 | Spec | heya, did the etch apt-key get changed recently? |
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| 21:59.38 | Spec | i have the Etch Stable Release Key (1024D/ADB11277), but apt-get update is complainin' about not having the key (9AA38DCD55BE302B) |
| 21:59.43 | themill | Spec: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00006.html |
| 21:59.43 | Selveste1 | * night people :) |
| 22:00.20 | Spec | ah, thanks themill. just makin' sure. |
| 22:00.29 | themill | :) |
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| 22:01.12 | Spec | themill: there's a certain irony to installing debian-archive-keyring without being able to check it's sig |
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| 22:02.00 | themill | Spec: the chain of trust is unbroken -- the Release file is signed with both keys |
| 22:02.35 | Spec | it says the following packages cannot be authenticated: debian-archive-keyring? |
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| 22:03.09 | themill | :( |
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| 22:05.05 | themill | Spec: have you not updated that box for a while? |
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| 22:05.33 | Spec | themill: it automagically does security updates every month |
| 22:05.51 | themill | every month? |
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| 22:06.03 | themill | Debian doesn't do patch Tuesday |
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| 22:06.23 | Spec | themill: i know, policy |
| 22:06.28 | themill | (and the updated archive package has been around for 6 weeks or so) |
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| 22:07.11 | themill | Spec: it's policy to run a box with known vulns for up to a month before fixing them? Feel free to borrow our cluebat and take to whomever came up with that particular gem. |
| 22:07.19 | Spec | may 4th -> apt got updated, as well as apt-utils |
| 22:07.39 | Spec | gpg: key ADB11277: "Etch Stable Release Key <debian-release@lists.debian.org>" not changed |
| 22:07.54 | Spec | themill: well, it's a policy that testing servers get tested before production servers get security updates in case they negatively affect applications :-/ |
| 22:08.37 | themill | Spec: of course. That doesn't mean everything has to be delayed to a once a month process. Because when you delay it that long, you get bitten by this sort of thing. |
| 22:08.37 | Spec | is debian-archive-keyring not in the security repository? |
| 22:08.53 | Spec | themill: you said six weeks...it upgraded three weeks ago |
| 22:08.57 | themill | judd: versions debian-archive-keyring |
| 22:08.58 | judd | themill: debian-archive-keyring -- sid: 2008.04.16+nmu1 etch: 2009.01.31 etch-volatile: 2009.01.31 sid: 2009.01.31 squeeze: 2009.01.31 |
| 22:09.09 | Spec | judd: versions apt |
| 22:09.09 | judd | Spec: apt -- etch: 0.6.46.4-0.1 etch-security: 0.6.46.4-0.1+etch1 lenny: 0.7.20.2 lenny-security: 0.7.20.2+lenny1 squeeze-security: 0.7.20.2+squeeze1 sid: 0.7.21 squeeze: 0.7.21 |
| 22:09.19 | Spec | so....why aren't keys handled in security updates? :p |
| 22:09.26 | themill | Spec: no, it was released as part of a point release, it wasn't a security release so it didn't go via the security team |
| 22:09.32 | themill | Spec: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00004.html |
| 22:09.59 | Spec | lawl |
| 22:10.00 | Spec | This |
| 22:10.00 | Spec | update mainly adds corrections for security problems to the oldstable |
| 22:10.00 | Spec | release, along with a few adjustment to serious problems. |
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| 22:10.11 | Spec | sorry, that was supposed to be one line :( |
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| 22:10.43 | Spec | seems like key management is a security related task |
| 22:10.51 | Spec | and should've gone to the security repos as well |
| 22:10.52 | themill | Spec: point release == move packages from security repo to main repo and also do some non-security things. |
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| 22:11.07 | themill | Spec: why bother? |
| 22:11.11 | Spec | themill: but there are lots of users that don't upgrade to point releases, and only do security updates |
| 22:11.13 | johnf | anyone know the right process for getting out of debian emeritus status. I've emailed da-manager a few weeks ago and a year ago and have had no response |
| 22:11.23 | themill | Spec: err, that's not how it's supposed to be done |
| 22:11.31 | Spec | why not? |
| 22:11.37 | Spec | why add features to a system you don't need? |
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| 22:11.48 | themill | Spec: that's not what point releases are. |
| 22:12.16 | themill | !point release |
| 22:12.17 | dpkg | Point releases are updates to <stable> and <oldstable>, usually including security and grave bug fixes. You can upgrade to the latest point release by referencing a Debian <mirror> in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". For Etch and prior, these were known as "4.0rX" but from Lenny onwards they will be called "5.0.X" etc. See <5.0.1>, <4.0r8>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases |
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| 22:12.41 | Spec | so what's the point of the security mirror then? :p |
| 22:13.03 | Spec | Shouldn't I be able to only use security mirror and keep my box up to date and fix all known vulnerabilities/security problems? |
| 22:13.20 | themill | No. |
| 22:13.35 | Spec | Then the purpose of security repo is? |
| 22:13.39 | Spec | !security |
| 22:13.39 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 22:13.47 | asg | Spec: security updates between point releases |
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| 22:14.13 | Spec | And point releases only fix critical security problems? |
| 22:14.21 | Spec | (as well...) |
| 22:14.22 | asg | Spec: and some RC bugs |
| 22:14.40 | themill | Spec: no. They also do things like fixing some grave bugs and other infrastructure htings like updating the keyring. |
| 22:14.42 | mdcastro | please anyone who can help, how to install debian starting the live cd? is it possible? |
| 22:14.48 | themill | (haven't we already passed over this ground) |
| 22:14.48 | asg | Spec: i.e., 4.0r1 fixed the rdesktop problem with windows 2003 that caused crashes. |
| 22:14.58 | themill | mdcastro: aiui, you can't |
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| 22:15.47 | mdcastro | Oktane: thanks .. I did not download it:) |
| 22:16.09 | mdcastro | ok thanks .. I did not download it:) |
| 22:16.20 | quitte | mdcastro: it's possible, but not with the debian installer. i think it's in the install manual. installing from another linux system or somethinglikethat |
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| 22:16.50 | themill | Spec: if you do regular security updates, then there generally isn't anything to do at the stage of the point release. But sometimes there will be. You might want to subscribe to debian-announce. |
| 22:17.00 | Spec | themill: just did ;) |
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| 22:17.12 | Spec | themill: thanks for clearing this up :) |
| 22:17.47 | Lish | problem with access on my ntfs disk! "mkdir: cannot create directory `akjd': Read-only file system" |
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| 22:18.05 | mdcastro | quitte: thanks, I download the cd 1 then |
| 22:18.07 | themill | no worries. You might be thinking of point releases in the context of MS service packs or Redhat minor releases. They're not like that at all -- they're much smaller updates indeed. |
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| 22:18.20 | Spec | themill: No, I don't think in context of redhat or ms |
| 22:19.17 | quitte | mdcastro: yes. use d-i. debootstrap isnt a lot of fun |
| 22:19.17 | themill | Spec: :) It just sounded like you had the idea that point releases were a big thing that people would avoid or be very wary of (like a service pack) |
| 22:19.32 | mdcastro | quitte: needs of others first? |
| 22:19.33 | quitte | hmmm. adding a live system to d-i might be way easier than adding d-i to a live system |
| 22:19.33 | Spec | themill: I've used debian since before woody o.O i'm just slightly ignorant on some things apparantly ;) |
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| 22:19.36 | snooops | hey dudes, did anybody knows a good ftp server with a good webtool to administrate? webmin is crap ^^ |
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| 22:19.55 | Spec | themill: I was also told by $boss to only do security updates, thinking security updates had *all* security updates, always. |
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| 22:20.14 | quitte | mdcastro: huh? is that paraphrased spock? |
| 22:20.30 | themill | Spec: borrow our cluebat for $boss, then. |
| 22:20.32 | Spec | themill: so, always upgrade to point releases. :) |
| 22:20.40 | Lish | problem with access on my ntfs disk! "mkdir: cannot create directory `akjd': Read-only file system" can any one help me? |
| 22:20.45 | pickcoder | !ftp |
| 22:20.46 | dpkg | (File Transfer Protocol) A method of moving files between systems using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of FTP: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-UNIX users). Unencrypted FTP using UNIX users will get your box pwn3d as fast as running windows on your firewall machine. Ask me about <ftp must die>, <scp>, <sftp>. See also <ftpd>. |
| 22:20.58 | Spec | Lish: mount -o remount -o rw /path/to/ntfs? |
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| 22:21.10 | Lish | /dev/sdb1 /media/PAMPOS auto rw,uid=1000,gid=users,umask=0000 0 0 |
| 22:21.19 | Tramp | !tell Lish -about ntfs |
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| 22:21.30 | Lish | and i put umask= 0000 because of this owner=rwx group=rwx other=rwx; i.e for drwxrwxrwx use umask=0000 |
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| 22:21.52 | themill | Spec: use "lenny" and "lenny/updates" in your sources.list and "aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade" on a regular basis. If you have things that are "held back" (or "kept back") then find out what they are and if needs be, use dist-upgrade to pick them up too. |
| 22:21.57 | Cisien | anyone manage to get their mouse working properly in vmware? Tools installed, but vmmouse module is not enabling |
| 22:22.13 | Spec | themill: we're still using etch? |
| 22:22.18 | Spec | themill: why go to lenny? |
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| 22:22.32 | themill | Spec: err sorry. etch and etch/updates |
| 22:22.50 | hark | Lish: doesn't matter, use ntfs-3g if you want rw with ntfs |
| 22:23.18 | Lish | hark ok i will try |
| 22:23.22 | quitte | Spec: but as youare asking: because security updates stop sometime in the beginning of 2010 for etch |
| 22:23.33 | themill | Spec: You have about another 7 or 8 months of security support for etch to go. If it takes a month to test trivial security updates, then you most definitely should be starting to plan your upgrade to lenny now. |
| 22:23.47 | Spec | themill: fo' sure ;) |
| 22:24.01 | Spec | That'll be fun times. |
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| 22:25.50 | Lish | hark: ok its work:) |
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| 22:27.41 | adama_ | Hi, back to this: I have "find /snapshot*/grail/*/grail/var/log/backup/*/*/home/* -type f -exec grep ...." - says /usr/bin/find: Argument list too long |
| 22:28.08 | adama_ | it is obviously a lot of files |
| 22:28.20 | Spec | adama_: you could use find -print0 |xargs -0 |
| 22:28.23 | Spec | instead of -exec |
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| 22:28.50 | adama_ | the problem is that /snapshot*/grail/*/grail/var/log/backup/*/*/home/* is too many files |
| 22:28.55 | Spec | there's also an internal find way to get around that problem, as well, i think -exec command {} + |
| 22:29.00 | Spec | adama_: xargs takes care of too many args |
| 22:29.11 | themill | adama_: that's a strange way of using find. |
| 22:29.13 | Spec | i think -exec command {} + might fix that also |
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| 22:29.47 | themill | Spec: the exec isn't the problem, it's the wildcard expansion on the list of directories to search |
| 22:30.01 | Spec | oh, find is getting the arg list error, not grep |
| 22:30.02 | Spec | my bad |
| 22:30.08 | adama_ | themill: well I was trying grep blah /snapshot*/grail/*/grail/var/qmail/mailnames/*/*/Maildir/* |
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| 22:30.42 | adama_ | but someone here told me to use find but it donsn't help |
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| 22:30.59 | adama_ | someone also said to use xargs but didn't give an example |
| 22:31.59 | themill | adama_: if you can promise that there are no spaces in the filenames, then you can "echo /your*/long/path* | xargs grep blah". If you want to use find, then something like: "find / -name Maildir -exec grep blah {} \;" is what you're looking for. |
| 22:33.03 | adama_ | ah, thanks |
| 22:33.46 | themill | adama_: if you need to restrict that down by path (i.e. including all those qualifiers to the wildcards), then you're going to need to be a bit more sophisticated with find. Look at either the -regex or -path options and /msg dpkg using find |
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| 22:34.12 | hellues | hey |
| 22:34.19 | hellues | i am using debian can you check this |
| 22:34.25 | hellues | http://paste.org/7618 |
| 22:34.32 | hellues | how can i fix that error |
| 22:35.27 | abrotman | which error? there seem to be a few |
| 22:35.35 | hellues | no |
| 22:35.39 | hellues | compiz not wok |
| 22:36.47 | Spec | themill: or find . |grep blah|grep blah|grep blah|grep blah :p |
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| 22:37.35 | themill | ewww! but yes, as long as you don't have spaces in your filenames. (-print0 and -zZ if you do) |
| 22:37.42 | Spec | -zZ? |
| 22:38.21 | themill | options to grep |
| 22:38.27 | unop_ | null terminate output |
| 22:38.41 | Spec | oh, doesn't xargs -0 take care of that if you use xargs? |
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| 22:39.04 | hellues | pls help |
| 22:39.09 | unop_ | yes, but you used grep in the example |
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| 22:39.50 | Spec | oh, k |
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| 22:43.03 | sneezewort | Is there a way to completely remove exim4 and reinstall as if it were never installed before? |
| 22:43.59 | dfranke | Hi, I'm running into trouble installing Lenny on a KVM guest. The installer hangs at 1%, 'Please wait...' under 'Select and install software' after I've configured the base system and selected a download mirror. I've gotten the same result with multiple mirrors. Any idea what the issue might be? |
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| 22:44.50 | pickcoder | sneezewort: you can install another MTA, purge Exim4 and then reinstall Exim4 |
| 22:44.59 | pickcoder | nullmailer for example |
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| 22:46.33 | abrotman | sneezewort: why? |
| 22:48.19 | dfranke | hmm, just noticed my installer .iso is timestamped 2008-11-04. That doesn't sound up-to-date. |
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| 22:50.15 | sneezewort | abrotman: I hosed my config files and now my auth doesn't work. |
| 22:50.25 | twisted` | whocares: and here |
| 22:50.30 | abrotman | !tell sneezewort about confmiss |
| 22:50.45 | sneezewort | pickcoder: purge does not remove /etc/exim4. |
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| 22:51.05 | whocares | depends on what you purge |
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| 22:51.12 | devel0 | anyone had any luck with debirf? |
| 22:51.48 | sneezewort | "apt-get purge exim4" does not remove /etc/exim4 |
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| 22:52.05 | abrotman | sneezewort: you probably purged the wrong package .. if you use what hte bot told you, it will put the originals in place if you move them out of the way first |
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| 22:52.47 | abrotman | sneezewort: that's definitely the wrong pcakge .. exim4 is a metapackage |
| 22:53.21 | abrotman | probably wanted exim4-base |
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| 22:57.50 | miodi | so long |
| 22:57.55 | wohdfoh | farewell |
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| 22:59.36 | sneezewort | Found it! exim4-config |
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| 23:05.39 | sneezewort | abrotman: thanks for the help. (and for especially for the --force-confmiss tip!) |
| 23:05.59 | abrotman | sneezewort: helpful isn't it? :) |
| 23:06.11 | abrotman | even more helpful on the correct package |
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| 23:08.21 | earthian | Hello |
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| 23:10.12 | earthian | when I start nfs-kernel-server i get lots of connections from various IPs in netstat also rpc stats are like "calls badcalls badauth" "4 176 176". What is causing this? |
| 23:10.58 | earthian | also syslog gets lots of messages that are related to for example: "svc: 85.113.142.163, port=35219: bad direction 1681013353, dropping request" |
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| 23:11.13 | earthian | any idea what is happening? google does not want to give me clear answer :/ |
| 23:11.24 | DeSian | i can't start my webserver because have some syntax error in Vhost, and i can't edit this files because after editing get back to old configuration. any way to start apache ignore vhost files ? |
| 23:11.59 | buggarage | why do some stations in amarok get no more connections after a while ? |
| 23:12.19 | buggarage | do they switch the network protocol ? |
| 23:12.36 | buggarage | or just the ip and port or what ? |
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| 23:12.59 | buggarage | or is that a bug ? |
| 23:13.10 | zorrolero | buggarage: maybe your wifi is buggy? |
| 23:14.08 | DeSian | any way to do that? |
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| 23:14.12 | buggarage | i don't think so since every other station is ok, but one of it tells me there is no matching input module !!! |
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| 23:14.40 | buggarage | it was ok 2 mins ago |
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| 23:22.43 | gewt | ..is it normal for dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to only ask me to configure the keyboard? |
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| 23:22.48 | gewt | and not the screen? |
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| 23:27.00 | dondelelcaro | gewt: in modern versions of xorg, yes. |
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| 23:27.29 | gewt | how do I change the screeb reolution, then? |
| 23:27.36 | dondelelcaro | gewt: using xrandr or similar |
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| 23:28.34 | adama_ | xrandr -s 800x600 |
| 23:28.41 | buggarage | waaahahh, cool bug |
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| 23:29.06 | gewt | can I force it to a mode it doesn't claim to support? |
| 23:29.13 | buggarage | switching to [tty1-6] makes the sound go away, then switching back to Xorg brings it back |
| 23:29.33 | gewt | I have it ste to 800x600 |
| 23:29.41 | gewt | but I know the monitor can support 1024x768 |
| 23:29.48 | gewt | the card should too I think... |
| 23:29.59 | gewt | onboard cirrus logic = fail? |
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| 23:30.21 | gewt | Cirrus Logic GD 5480 |
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| 23:31.43 | abrotman | that's a wicked old card |
| 23:31.50 | abrotman | is it even PCI? |
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| 23:34.42 | gewt | nope |
| 23:34.47 | gewt | it's built in to the board |
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| 23:35.04 | gewt | can I force 1024x768 onto it? |
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| 23:35.52 | gewt | googlign state sthe card can support 1024x768 |
| 23:35.55 | Polarina | gewt: Just don't fry it. |
| 23:36.13 | gewt | driver says it can support it, now hwo do I force it on? |
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| 23:36.41 | abrotman | gewt: it can be PCI and builtinto the board |
| 23:37.07 | gewt | mmm |
| 23:37.09 | gewt | true |
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| 23:44.45 | gewt | -.- |
| 23:44.49 | gewt | now my audio won't work |
| 23:44.59 | gewt | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
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| 23:53.30 | earthian | what can cause nfs-kernel-server to attract many connections from various IPs i have never seem before? Can somebody help me with this issue? |
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