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00:06.06TimothyAi just have one question
00:06.09TimothyAwhat's lost+found for?
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00:08.05SolidLiqIn the netboot image for installed Lenny, does anyone know if there's a way to configure it's sources?  I have an approx apt proxy I'd like to use so that it doesn't download packages directly from the debian servers.
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00:08.44bookmarkSolidLiq: you can remove the ethernet cable afte dhcp configures then it installs only the base system
00:08.51iluminator101i was away i had to go eat
00:09.06SolidLiqTimothyA: that's in ext3 for cases where the filesystem has gotten screwed up, and due to bad inodes, it doesn't know where some file belongs.  In practice, you never see this though since ext3 is very reliable after all the use it's had
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00:09.41CutMeOwnThroatTimothyA, fsck puts .... wossname... orphaned (?) blocks there i.e. blocks that don't belong to any file anymore
00:09.44SolidLiqbookmark: I'd rather edit one of these files, because I want it to fully install the setup I want (openvz server)
00:10.20SolidLiqbookmark: plus, removing the ethernet cable from the server in the closet isn't an easy task ;)
00:10.26aduketquit
00:10.34bookmarkyou can edit the sources.list once you get it installed but im not trying to argue
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00:11.04SolidLiqbookmark: yeah, I know that part...  but isn't there a way to edit what will go into that file in the first place?  or do you just not know?
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00:11.44bookmarki think isobuster could possibly edit it but that is a windows application
00:11.50SolidLiqlol
00:11.54bookmarkwhat?
00:12.01SolidLiqhas not one single copy of windows installed anywhere
00:12.07bookmarkhehe
00:12.34bookmarkits a pay app anyway, i think its like $30
00:12.41SolidLiqunfortunately this computer came with it installed, but the very first thing I did was wipe it.  I didn't even boot into it once
00:12.50bookmarkunless you crack it beheheeh
00:13.00SolidLiqmeh
00:13.08SolidLiqI'm sure there's a linux way to do it too
00:13.16bookmarkno you're correct, i don't know
00:13.17SolidLiqbut the netboot image isn't an ISO anyway
00:13.26bookmarkdo not
00:13.38bookmarkoh?
00:13.43SolidLiqyeah.
00:13.49SolidLiqyou've never used a netboot image?
00:14.06SolidLiqI'm not talking about the net install cd
00:14.08bookmarki have an archive with all my stuff on it :)
00:14.12SolidLiqI'm talking about the PXE boot image
00:14.32SolidLiqyou need a working dhcp server (not the one in your router) and a tftpd server setup for it to work
00:14.35bookmarkcdrom that i made Packages.gz
00:14.39mallxshow do i put a shell var in a grep expression   somethng like grep '00 02 $1'
00:15.04SolidLiqbut when it's setup, you just boot your computer without any disc in it, and from the BIOS menu you select netboot, and it boots the installer off of the tftpd server on your network
00:15.17bookmarkhow is the dhcp in someone's router not actual?
00:15.26SolidLiqlol
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00:15.52SolidLiqI meant, a real dhcp server, not a tiny little stripped down one that doesn't support more than about 3% of the standard capabilities of a dhcp server
00:16.09SolidLiqmallxs: take the $1 out of the single parens
00:16.16SolidLiqmallxs: you can use " if you want instead
00:16.38SolidLiqmallxs: when the shell sees a ', it doesn't expand anything inside the '
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00:16.58bookmarkdid i say hi when i came in? hi
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00:17.03SolidLiqheh
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00:17.35mallxsthx SolidLiq
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00:18.54SolidLiqmallxs: np
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00:20.14bookmarkum.... so..... is/are there like... another or some rather web browsers?
00:20.25bookmarklike can i have two iceweasels?
00:20.56bookmarklove and hate
00:21.22CutMeOwnThroatwell, when papa iceweasel and mama iceweasel meet alone in their lair...
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00:21.40CutMeOwnThroatthere might be lots of little iceweasels some months later
00:21.40bookmarkeheheheheheheh
00:21.56bookmarki thought foxes when down rabbit holes
00:22.11bookmarkthey need like..... acidrabbit
00:22.15CutMeOwnThroatfirefox -P -a lets start one on a different profile
00:22.25CutMeOwnThroatpossibly -P someting
00:22.39CutMeOwnThroatalso there
00:22.51bookmarkit would be like .mozilla2?
00:23.04CutMeOwnThroatis galeon, konquerererer, etc. etc. etc.
00:23.15CutMeOwnThroatno, ti'd be something like -P something
00:23.18CutMeOwnThroat:)
00:23.21iluminator101anyone try swiftweasel?
00:23.28bookmarkwell cuz i know there is arora but i don't think that it even has like flash and stuff
00:23.38bookmarkat least i couldn't get itworking
00:23.43CutMeOwnThroatI'm running bigslowweasel
00:24.19bookmarki'm running showing family memmbers my perversions on accident weasel
00:24.49CutMeOwnThroatapt-cache search 'web browser'?
00:24.54bookmarkhey grandma check this out
00:25.13CutMeOwnThroatamaya, too
00:25.15CutMeOwnThroatand dillo
00:25.25bookmarkyeah but do any have flash?
00:25.48abrotmani don't think dillo is around anymore?
00:25.48bookmarki need coast to coast radio with george noory on youtube
00:25.50CutMeOwnThroatmidori...
00:26.09abrotmanjudd: versions dillo
00:26.09juddabrotman: dillo -- etch: 0.8.5-4.1 sid: 0.8.6-3
00:26.12CutMeOwnThroatabrotman, you're partly right... it's in unstable again
00:26.28CutMeOwnThroatI guess I still have the etch-version, then
00:26.41CutMeOwnThroatupgrades actually leave a lot of cruft
00:26.51bookmarki don't think that dillo has flash because it only installs two packages
00:26.51CutMeOwnThroatwonders how much stuff from potato he still has
00:27.07bookmarkcan support flash, whatever
00:27.28CutMeOwnThroathm, no, I got 0.8.6-3
00:27.34CutMeOwnThroathow did that get into my lenny
00:27.47CutMeOwnThroatmust be sleep-installing sometimes
00:28.06abrotmanCutMeOwnThroat: you probably had it from when it was testing before it was removed from testing ?
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00:28.36bookmarkwhat the hell is lenny i can't even remmeber? a lemer?
00:28.41rackhello, how i can recover the timezone database, it's broken: /usr/bin/tzselect: time zone files are not set up correctly, i have debian 4
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00:28.58superlinuxhi all. i want WINE  support to the interfaces of applicationes in arabic. how can that be done? the fonts are not well rendered. letters ar not connected as they are supposed to do
00:29.52CutMeOwnThroatdunno, it might have been my pinning rules... and I didn't notice/forgot
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00:30.05dondelelcarob
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00:31.01bookmarkha! lenny is the binoculars
00:31.05CutMeOwnThroatabrotman, heh, no idea... dpktg.log: upgrade dillo 0.8.5-4.1+b1 0.8.6-3
00:31.06bookmarkin toystory
00:31.13CutMeOwnThroatit is!
00:31.33bookmarkthe wind up binoculars
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00:31.40CutMeOwnThroatand squeeze is the dog
00:32.01bookmarkis that unstable?
00:32.09bookmarkno sid is yah?
00:32.10CutMeOwnThroatno, unstable is always sid
00:32.14bookmarkah right
00:32.22bookmarksqueeze comes next?
00:32.30CutMeOwnThroatyes
00:32.42CutMeOwnThroatsqueeze is testing now, it'll be the next stable
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00:33.10superlinuxguys when you help me, you are helping in the migration of the 1st copmany to Linux ever done in the middle east.
00:33.11redstickhey guys, ive really messed up my samba config, all i want to do is be able to access a folder and a printer on my windows desktop machine in another room, is it safe to remove all samba packages and start over?
00:33.17avusqueeze isn't the dog
00:33.22avuit's the little green aliens!
00:33.24superlinuxand i am damn serious.
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00:34.11bookmarkjust buy a printer :)
00:34.21bookmarkthen you don't have to walk
00:34.31bookmarkbahahhahahah
00:34.41bookmarkkicks his
00:34.48bookmarkand you don't have to print via packets
00:34.49redstickno, lol, my laptop is linux, i dont have room for another printer
00:34.51CutMeOwnThroatavu, damn it all, you're right
00:34.59bookmarkyou can stream print, imagine that
00:35.19CutMeOwnThroatbookmark, it's the aliens!
00:35.30bookmarkrun fo yo life!
00:35.39CutMeOwnThroatI thought it was the dog, because that's got that spiral
00:35.45GhostlyDeathAnyone know of mirrors still providing sarge packages?
00:35.53bookmarkoh shit you mean sqeeze
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00:36.41redstickgod, i think i may have to reinstall the whole system..
00:37.02bookmarkhold on ill give you what i got on samba
00:37.05redstickmeh, ill just remove all samba and try from there
00:37.13CutMeOwnThroat!tell GhostlyDeath -about archives
00:37.34bookmarkSAMBA: smbfs (debian package)
00:37.34bookmark(must be root) *share name must NOT end with a slash*
00:37.34bookmarksmbmount //winComputer/windowsShare /localMountPoint -o username=winUser
00:37.38redsticki really should learn to back up .confs
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00:38.08bookmarkdunno about printing
00:38.12GhostlyDeathCutMeOwnThroat: that helps, thanks
00:38.12redstickhmm
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00:38.27CutMeOwnThroatin 50 years, debian versions will become soldier1, soldier2, soldier3...
00:38.43bookmarkyou might need a password? i dunno
00:38.53bookmarkdunno about username passwords
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00:39.23redsticki had it all fine without a password till i decided to install some samba GUI thing
00:39.29bookmarkalso you have to be in the same workgroup
00:40.08redstickyeah
00:40.16redstickhmm maybe it could be SNORT
00:40.20redsticki just installed that
00:40.35bookmarki have never printed over smb it would be a nightmare me thinks
00:40.43bookmarkor not i dunno
00:40.54redstickit was pretty easy after i found the right drivers
00:41.05bookmarkyeah like how does that work in open office?
00:41.12bookmarkwould it show like samba shares as devices?
00:41.19redstickyou jsut set up a default printer
00:41.41bookmarkah
00:42.20bookmarklpadmin?
00:42.29bookmarkthats how i install my printer
00:42.49bookmarklpadmin -p sam -E -v usb://Samsung/ML-2510%20Series
00:43.08redsticki had to do something else
00:43.18redstickhpjps or something
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00:44.03TrueDDGood night all
00:44.27redstickhmm, lemme relog
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00:46.04nvzif I use the onboard nvidia RAID does that mean I have to shut down and use the onboard util to rebuild the array in event of failure or can I still do that through software?
00:46.31nvzif I use the onboard nvidia RAID does that mean I have to shut down and use the onboard util to rebuild the array in event of failure or can I still do that through software?
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00:46.57abrotmanit's not real raid ?
00:46.59nvzoops. sorry if that got repeated
00:47.08nvzwtf is real raid?
00:47.41superlinuxhi all. i want WINE  support to the interfaces of applicationes in arabic. how can that be done? the fonts are not well rendered. letters ar not connected as they are supposed to do
00:47.44superlinuxguys when you help me, you are helping in the migration of the 1st copmany to Linux ever done in the middle east.
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00:47.46superlinuxand i am damn serious.
00:48.02puyii just installed debian 5 with lilo, when i started it i just got lilo with this ....... ..... ........ after it was done i just got a bash session , i think the problem was me using lilo, how can i fix this?
00:48.12nvzseems to me if I use the onboard raid it presents itself as a single disk..  so I wasn't sure if I could still rebuilt the array when I replace a failed disk from within linux
00:48.46abrotman!fakeraid
00:48.47dpkgA term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS ... if you use them with Debian it's suggested that you don't set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID (ask me about <md>). see <sata faq>
00:49.11nvzhmm
00:50.23nvzI'm just looking to do raid 5 with 3x500GB drives. So I guess it would be better to use software raid than this nvidia onboard raid?
00:52.13bookmarki just sort my files into big ones and small ones and then manually back up the big ones and automate backup of the small ones by duplicating the entire directory
00:52.36bookmarkthen i don't have to sort them
00:52.42puyibookmark, shut up
00:53.44bookmarkeye eye sir
00:53.57bookmarkdiff -r is your friend
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00:55.46CutMeOwnThroatactually we had a raid that DID present itself as a single disk... it was a case which would hold several disks and had an IDE port that acted like a regular disk
00:56.05puyii just installed debian 5 with lilo, when i started it i just got lilo with this ....... ..... ........ after it was done i just got a bash session , i think the problem was me using lilo, how can i fix this?
00:56.19nvzCutMeOwnThroat: interesting.. thanks for sharing ;
00:56.24nvz:)
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00:56.43nvzI've never actually used raid, done lvm once or twice
00:56.44CutMeOwnThroatof course you're on-board... and it's probably different
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00:57.13nvzI'm just thinking the onboard will present itself as a single disk  forcing me to have to take the server down to rebuild the array
00:57.24CutMeOwnThroatbut this was as "true hardware raid" as it gets :)
00:57.37CutMeOwnThroathideously expensive... I think ... perhaps $300 or so
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00:58.07nvzI'd know if the board came with more than a fold out picture instruction card in 30 languages
00:58.20nvzI guess I could look it up
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00:58.34nvzthis board pissed me off though as soon as I got it and realized what it was
00:58.40nvzI thought it had video on it
00:58.43lulzyboyhey i was wondering if anyone could give mesome help
00:58.57nvzturns out the GeForce chip on the board is only for SLI, it has no actual video port
00:59.37lulzyboyany apt-get i try and do gives me the error
00:59.38lulzyboyFetched 9407kB in 3s (2372kB/s)
00:59.39lulzyboyE: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
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01:00.19nvzI still need to bitch at nvidia for that one.. I had understood GeForce to be an industry trademark indicating I could see some output from a fucking computer
01:00.26nvzheh
01:01.02nvzthe whole SLI thing and especially the videoless video chipset shit is way beyond me
01:01.14nvzI don't do gaming or anything requiring high end graphics so..
01:01.22CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, what version of debian?
01:01.29lulzyboylenny
01:01.36lulzyboynot a update either
01:01.56CutMeOwnThroatweird error
01:01.58CutMeOwnThroatchecked the bts?
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01:02.04lulzyboybts?
01:02.06CutMeOwnThroat!tell lulzyboy -about bts
01:02.19lulzyboyyeah i have
01:02.22lulzyboyits not a bug
01:02.37CutMeOwnThroatwell, it is
01:02.39lulzyboyif i try and uninstall libc6 it gives the same error
01:02.53CutMeOwnThroathaha... "uninstall libc6"
01:03.17lulzyboyi adopted a ubuntu post that someone had said it worked for
01:03.20lulzyboybut didnt work on debian
01:03.30nvzheh
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01:03.47nvzall that proves is the intelligence of ubuntu users
01:04.02lulzyboyodd error is if i goto dpkg something
01:04.08lulzyboyit tells me bash isnt installed
01:04.09lulzyboybut it is
01:04.21CutMeOwnThroat!dbugs 462090
01:04.23lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
01:04.23lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
01:04.26dpkgDONE:#462090:N[libc6] libc6: Fails to install with internal immediate configuration error (); Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:30:02 UTC []
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01:04.47lulzyboy2008?
01:04.59lulzyboyi installed about 4 months ago
01:05.19nvzoh well.. I suppose I have enough time to try this both ways and see what I can do with the onboard vs. the hardware raid and if there is any performance difference
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01:05.49CutMeOwnThroatso? It's the same error
01:06.08CutMeOwnThroatit was closed because it was filed against aptitude instead of dpkg, though
01:06.14CutMeOwnThroatshould have been reassigned
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01:06.45nvzas far as I know right now the only main advantage to the onboard is not having to do anything special in debian, and the disadvantage is not being able to rebuild the array without taking the system down
01:06.46lulzyboyso youve no idea how to fix?
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01:07.18nvzidk, if you ask me a bug against libc6 should be filed against libc6
01:07.23nvzand neither dpkg nor aptitude
01:07.51CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, still got the libc6 package in /var/cache/apt/archives?
01:08.15lulzyboylibc6_2.7-18_i386.deb
01:08.15lulzyboylibc6_2.9-13_i386.deb
01:08.18CutMeOwnThroatnvz, if it IS a bug in libc6
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01:08.27CutMeOwnThroatjudd, versions libc6
01:08.27juddCutMeOwnThroat: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-12 sid: 2.9-13
01:08.47CutMeOwnThroatwhaddaya do with 2.9-13? that's from sid
01:08.55nvzCutMeOwnThroat: when you have a configuration error for a package where do you think that error lies, in the package manager or in the package where those config scripts are?
01:09.09lulzyboyi may have got that
01:09.42CutMeOwnThroatnvz, if the error is totally not helpful, I'd say both :)
01:09.52CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, what does dpkg -l libc6 say?
01:09.55nvzhah
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01:10.09lulzyboy| Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
01:10.09lulzyboy|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
01:10.18CutMeOwnThroatjust the last line
01:10.18lulzyboyin  libc6          <none>         (no description available)
01:10.23nvzI see where you're comming from but I have no idea where you're going
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01:10.41CutMeOwnThroatduh, it's gorn
01:10.52CutMeOwnThroatwell, looks to me like you updated to sid
01:10.58nsadminbetter install the lenny one
01:11.07CutMeOwnThroat!sidsmite lulzyboy
01:11.07dpkgsmacks lulzyboy with a crippling libstdc++5 bug
01:11.14CutMeOwnThroatsooo close
01:11.20lulzyboyok then how would i do that
01:11.51CutMeOwnThroatwell, basically you should never have gone there if you don't know that
01:11.53CutMeOwnThroat!sid
01:11.54dpkgsid is probably the <unstable> version of Debian.  It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story.  It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway.  Ask me about <unstable>.  Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in.  It will never be released.  See <sid faq>.
01:11.54nsadminso you have those two .debs?
01:12.11lulzyboyyes
01:12.35nsadminif you've upgraded to sid... maybe you install that one
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01:13.01CutMeOwnThroatI guess 'cat /etc/debian_version'  gives you 'testing/unstable'
01:13.03nsadminok, I don't know enough about this to pick which
01:13.11CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, it's libc6!
01:13.16CutMeOwnThroathe can't go back
01:13.18lulzyboyserver:/var/cache/apt/archives# cat /etc/debian_version
01:13.18lulzyboy5.0.1
01:13.30CutMeOwnThroathm, that still says lenny
01:13.33nsadminso he's still lenny?
01:13.36lulzyboyyes
01:13.40CutMeOwnThroatwell, I dunno
01:13.47lulzyboyi dont think i installed the sid one
01:13.50lulzyboyjust wget it
01:14.00CutMeOwnThroatdpkg -l libc6 |tail -i would have been really useful
01:14.00dpkgNo packages found matching libc6 |tail -i would have been really useful
01:14.03nsadminok, let's try the earlier one
01:14.06CutMeOwnThroatbut it says it's not installed
01:14.10CutMeOwnThroat*shudder*
01:14.24lulzyboydpkg -l libc6 |tail -i
01:14.25lulzyboytail: invalid option -- i
01:14.25dpkgNo packages found matching libc6 |tail -i
01:14.39CutMeOwnThroatit's a one, not -i
01:14.48CutMeOwnThroatops... typo from my side
01:14.56lulzyboydpkg -l libc6 |tail -1
01:14.56lulzyboyin  libc6                             <none>         (no description available)
01:14.56dpkgii  libc6 |tail -1                 3.3-11           ultra s3kr1t #debian package
01:15.03dondelelcaroif your font doesn't distinguish between 1ilI, fix it.
01:15.14CutMeOwnThroatI wrote an i...
01:15.28CutMeOwnThroatDONT ask me why, plz
01:15.38nsadminlulzyboy: ls /lib/libc* | wc -l
01:15.46lulzyboyls /lib/libc* | wc -l
01:15.47lulzyboy18
01:16.06nsadminlulzyboy: ls /lib/libc* | pastebinit
01:16.31lulzyboythats it
01:16.33lulzyboy18
01:16.47CutMeOwnThroatwhat about "dpkg -l libc6\* |grep ii"  - what version(s) do you get? (or really nothing at all?)
01:16.53nsadmindifferent command this time, look again :)
01:17.06lulzyboynothing at all
01:17.15nsadminno url?
01:17.21lulzyboynope
01:17.26lulzyboydpkg -l libc6\* |grep ii
01:17.26lulzyboyserver:/var/cache/apt/archives#
01:17.26dpkgii  libc6\* |grep ii                 1.8-13           lulzyboy's private porn collection
01:17.58CutMeOwnThroatno need to paste this
01:18.03lulzyboynow its just stuck at >
01:18.13nsadminlulzyboy: aptitude install pastebinit
01:18.17CutMeOwnThroatwell, seems you managed to uninstall libc6
01:18.27CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, he can't install anything
01:18.32lulzyboyhow do i quit >
01:18.37nsadminctrl c
01:19.01lulzyboyill paste bin that for you
01:19.18lulzyboygonna take a while as its getting everything
01:19.59SolidLiqanyone know if it's possible to modify the netboot image for debian lenny so that it uses your local LAN apt proxy as the source instead of downloading everything from the debian mirrors on the net (when it's first installing)?
01:20.08CutMeOwnThroatoh well, try dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb
01:20.23lulzyboyi cant its still getting
01:20.50nsadminwhat's it getting?
01:20.55lulzyboyall packagtes
01:21.14nsadmincould you stop that for now?
01:21.15CutMeOwnThroathow can it install anything with libc6 missing
01:21.28lulzyboynsadmin wanted a pastebin
01:21.41nsadminnot any more :)
01:21.45lulzyboylol
01:21.46CutMeOwnThroatbut how can that work
01:21.58lulzyboyits downloading all of the packages now
01:21.59nsadminthere's a copy of the libc in ram
01:22.06CutMeOwnThroataptitude should totally refuse to do anything right now
01:22.07nsadminctrl-c it
01:22.08lulzyboy50% done
01:22.17lulzyboyill let it get them all first
01:22.22nsadminit'
01:22.22lulzyboydoesnt have to get again then
01:22.27nsadmins totally safe
01:22.35lulzyboyi know but it saves me waiting for it again
01:22.38nsadminif you do it while it's downloading
01:22.53lulzyboyoh so it will still DL if i ctrl c?
01:22.58CutMeOwnThroatno
01:23.00nsadminyes
01:23.03lulzyboylol
01:23.14nsadminwait, what are you using to download?
01:23.14CutMeOwnThroatalso, it's not totally safe... actually my suggestion was rather unsafe
01:23.28lulzyboyim not
01:23.29nsadminaptitude?
01:23.43nsadminwhat do you mean? why is it downloading?
01:23.47lulzyboyi did aptitude install
01:23.50lulzyboylike you said
01:23.55nsadminoh, stop that
01:24.01lulzyboyits 99% done
01:24.02CutMeOwnThroatactually I think reinstalling might not be a bad idea
01:24.06lulzyboydl'd 700mb
01:24.13lulzyboyits not that easy
01:24.15CutMeOwnThroat?
01:24.16nsadminok don't ctrl c
01:24.21lulzyboyits a webserver
01:24.24nsadminit's no longer safe
01:24.46lulzyboyand i dont have anywhere to backup etc
01:24.58CutMeOwnThroat!libc6
01:24.59dpkgwell, libc6 is the GNU C libranry version 2, which Debian uses since 2.0. Do not try to downgrade it. It is a essential component of your Debian system, and we are not responsible if it breaks.
01:25.03nsadminit was safe to do it while it was downloading, not safe to ctrl c it now
01:25.10lulzyboyso dont dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb ?
01:25.14CutMeOwnThroatthat's why my suggestion might not be safe...
01:25.40CutMeOwnThroatwell, try dpkg --simulate  -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb first
01:25.44nsadmindoes it seem to be working properly?
01:25.44CutMeOwnThroatand pastebin that
01:25.44lulzyboyhttp://pastebin.com/m736e8fe3
01:25.55lulzyboytheres the output of aptitude install
01:26.17lulzyboy(Reading database ... 21 files and directories currently installed.)
01:26.18lulzyboyUnpacking libc6 (from .../archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb) ...
01:26.24CutMeOwnThroat900 mb in 6 minutes?
01:26.26lulzyboyyes
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01:26.35CutMeOwnThroat150MB/minute?
01:26.43lulzyboyyes
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01:27.01CutMeOwnThroatI don't believe that
01:27.04lulzyboywhy
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01:27.21lulzyboymy ISP has a mirror and i have two modems at 100mbps total
01:27.27lulzyboyperfectly acceptable
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01:28.14nsadminwonder if comcast has a debian mirror
01:28.18CutMeOwnThroatand wtf was 900MB big?
01:28.26lulzyboyit downloaded EVERY package
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01:28.34lulzyboyfor some reason
01:28.40CutMeOwnThroat...
01:28.40Jorophosehi, how would I connect to a remote machine using SSH? the guides I find aren't helpful at all. when I try them it just hangs for me.
01:28.52CutMeOwnThroatthat's "every package" for an upgrade from lenny to sid?
01:29.09lulzyboyi think its every package from the sources.list
01:29.11CutMeOwnThroatpastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
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01:29.45lulzyboyi need somewhere else
01:29.49lulzyboyit tripped spam filter
01:30.10CutMeOwnThroatyou can /msg dpkg pastebin
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01:30.17nsadminrafb.net/paste
01:30.18lulzyboyhttp://pastebin.ca/1459515
01:30.21lulzyboythere
01:30.36CutMeOwnThroatwtf?
01:30.43bookmarkdoes anyone know how to clear the bash command log?
01:30.47CutMeOwnThroatwebmin sarge?
01:30.55lulzyboyfor webmin
01:30.59CutMeOwnThroatjudd, versions libc6
01:30.59juddCutMeOwnThroat: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-12 sid: 2.9-13
01:31.37CutMeOwnThroatok, I have no idea what you did
01:31.57nsadminit's all lenny
01:32.10CutMeOwnThroatjudd, versions libgcc1
01:32.10juddCutMeOwnThroat: libgcc1 -- etch: 1:4.1.1-21 lenny: 1:4.3.2-1.1 squeeze: 1:4.4.0-5 sid: 1:4.4.0-6
01:32.31CutMeOwnThroatwhat does dpkg -l libgcc1|grep ii give you?
01:32.47lulzyboynothing
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01:32.50G-FarkasHello!. I installed vlc-nox. Someone knows if it possible to save a playlist with this ncurses interface? There is not this option in the help. Excuse my english please.
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01:33.46QuazarHi all, whats the apt-get sytax to install boost libs ?
01:33.57G-Farkastictac: you say it because of me?
01:33.59Jorophoseso it seems my connection just times out. is it a problem with my router?
01:34.09CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, I think the safest is to reinstall... I have no idea how you managed to get rid of libc6 you can still try to do   dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb but I don't know where it'll lead you
01:34.21tictacG-Farkas: no. i say it because there are people working on it.
01:34.27nsadminQuazar: syntax spec is in man page
01:34.34lulzyboyerror processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb (--install):
01:34.34lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
01:34.48Quazarnsadmin: right so im not trying to look at any man pages atm
01:34.50G-Farkastictac: what is the problem with this
01:34.53G-Farkasthat?
01:34.55QuazarI just need the syntax
01:35.01gparentapt-get install
01:35.08gparentapt-get install package
01:35.13tictacnvm.
01:35.18QuazarBoost ?
01:35.22nsadminQuazar: which is in the man page
01:35.28gparenthe doesnt need the man page
01:35.37gparenthe's just asking his question badly
01:35.37QuazarIts not in the man pages cause its not installed
01:35.38Quazarffs
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01:35.45lulzyboyErrors were encountered while processing:
01:35.45lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
01:35.46gparentyeah forgive him...
01:36.04nsadminso what you need is the package name
01:36.06CutMeOwnThroat!tell Quazar -about search
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01:36.30CutMeOwnThroatQuazar, boost-build?
01:36.44QuazarYeah
01:36.45gparentlibboost1.38-dev
01:36.50gparentFor the boost libraries
01:36.53gparentlatest version.
01:36.59gparenthowever thats not the stable branch
01:37.10G-FarkasI installed vlc-nox. Someone knows if it possible to save a playlist with this ncurses interface? There is not this option in the help. Excuse my english please.
01:37.12gparentstable is libboost1.35-dev
01:37.44Quazare0n`: Couldn't find package libboost1.38-dev
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01:37.52QuazarBlah
01:37.57gparentStable is libboost1.35-dev
01:38.09nsadminQuazar cat /etc/debian_version
01:38.21G-FarkasQuazar: try this:   aptitude search libboost    , and then... ...
01:38.23QuazarI got it
01:38.37lulzyboynsadmin: have any idea or do i reinstall like cutmeownthroat said
01:38.48nsadmindo you have ar?
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01:39.10lulzyboyar?
01:39.17nsadminyeah, do you have it?
01:39.22lulzyboywhat is it
01:39.39nsadminkinda like tar but different file format
01:39.53lulzyboydont think i have it
01:40.05nsadmintype ar and see what happens
01:40.17lulzyboyyes i have it
01:40.23nsadmingood...
01:40.30CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, I could tell you how to hunt that error down... but I dunno, I doubt it's worth the trouble... we don't know all the things that are wrong... we only know the ones that are look pretty fatal
01:40.32nsadminare you in your home dir?
01:40.49lulzyboycd /?
01:40.56nsadminjust cd
01:41.00lulzyboythats what im thinking
01:41.03nsadminor cd $HOME
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01:41.09lulzyboyok im there
01:41.22nsadminok, mkdir wrk
01:41.24nsadmincd wrk
01:41.32lulzyboydone
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01:41.49nsadmincp /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb .
01:41.58lulzyboydone
01:42.02nsadminar x (hit tab then enter)
01:42.10nsadminls
01:42.14nsadminto see what you got
01:42.19lulzyboyserver:~/wrk# ls
01:42.19lulzyboylibc6_2.7-18_i386.deb
01:42.21nsadminshould be two tarballs and a file
01:42.29lulzyboythats it
01:42.44nsadminar x (hit tab then enter)
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01:42.48lulzyboyi did
01:43.12nsadminand only the .deb is there?
01:43.15lulzyboyyes
01:43.23lulzyboyserver:~/wrk# ar x
01:43.23lulzyboyUsage: ar [emulation options]
01:43.29lulzyboyso its not reading the x
01:43.44CutMeOwnThroathe means ar x libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb
01:43.45nsadminwhich ar
01:43.57nsadminyep
01:43.59lulzyboyserver:~/wrk# ls
01:44.00lulzyboycontrol.tar.gz  data.tar.gz  debian-binary  libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb
01:44.06nsadminTHERE we go
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01:44.26CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, WHERE you go?
01:44.32nsadmintar xfz data.tar.gz
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01:44.49lulzyboydone
01:44.55nsadminyou should now have at least a lib dir
01:45.04nsadminamong others
01:45.10lulzyboyyes
01:45.40nsadmincp lib/* /lib/*
01:45.52nsadminsince you're root, you should be able to do that
01:46.04lulzyboyit worked
01:46.07nsadminthen one more step
01:46.09lulzyboybut
01:46.10lulzyboycp: will not overwrite just-created
01:46.23CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, eww...talk about unsafe
01:46.38nsadminwell this is kinda an emergency
01:46.43CutMeOwnThroatyou want him to come back tomorrow and everyday thereafter with a new problem?
01:46.46lulzyboyi dont really mind as long as i get it fixed
01:46.46G-FarkasI installed vlc-nox. Someone knows if it possible to save a playlist with this ncurses interface? There is not this option in the help. Excuse my english please.
01:47.13nsadminnono, we're not leavign it like this
01:47.25CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, you CANT KNOW how you're leaving it
01:47.41CutMeOwnThroatbecause there are sid-packages around that sources.list doesn't provide any reason for
01:47.46nsadminlulzyboy: ldconfig -v
01:48.02CutMeOwnThroatand something pretty much gutted the system
01:48.19lulzyboyok ive done that
01:48.38nsadminamong the output of ldconfig does it say (new) anywhere?
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01:48.53nsadminor somethign along those lines
01:48.55lulzyboyi cant see it
01:49.15nsadmincan you scroll up using shift-pageup?
01:49.32lulzyboyyeah i mean i cant see new anywhere
01:49.40nsadminoh, ok
01:50.01nsadmintry this...
01:50.36nsadminCutMeOwnThroat: the packages are there, true... but how in the world did they get there?
01:50.55lulzyboyi may have added them i guess
01:51.08CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, aptitude downloaded them?
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01:51.22nsadminso you edited your sources.list and then edited again?
01:51.36nooperhi, do we still use update-rc.d to enable/disable services on Lenny?
01:51.44lulzyboyi think so
01:51.48nsadminheh, what u mean may have :)
01:51.48lulzyboyabout a month agpo
01:52.03CutMeOwnThroatso basically we don't know how much of the system is sid, he definitely shouldn't run unstable and sid-libc6 seems to already have broken everything
01:52.06nsadminoh ok, so is that when the problems started?
01:52.06G-Farkasnsadmin: Do U know how can I do to change the lines that remember ¿who? for using "shift page up" ?
01:52.16lulzyboyyes
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01:52.40CutMeOwnThroatnooper, whaddaya mean "need" you can :) there's also rcconf
01:53.04CutMeOwnThroator making/removing soft-links yourself :)
01:53.22nsadminso try this now...
01:53.23nooperis there a preferred method for newbies?
01:53.26nooperCutMeOwnThroat:
01:53.28lulzyboyok go
01:53.39nsadminaptitude install pastebinit
01:54.04CutMeOwnThroatnooper, whatever is fine... try rcconf, it's ncurses-graphics
01:54.12nooperok
01:54.16lulzyboyWriting extended state information... Done
01:54.17lulzyboyE: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
01:54.20CutMeOwnThroatI think rcconf is originally a redhat-tool, but who cares :)
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01:54.50nooperCutMeOwnThroat: when you do remove the soft-links yourself, if you need to recreate them, how do you know which number to use?
01:54.52nsadminaptitude --version
01:55.29lulzyboyhttp://pastebin.com/m208d764d
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01:56.55nsadminCutMeOwnThroat: you think his aptitude version and libs are sid?
01:56.58CutMeOwnThroatnooper, good point :)  I dunno where update-rc et al store theirs... but generally higher number == later so if you know your service needs another service (i.e. network) you have to choose a higher number than that (network in this case) and vice-versa if something needs your service
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01:57.27CutMeOwnThroatjudd, versions aptitude
01:57.27juddCutMeOwnThroat: aptitude -- etch: 0.4.4-4 lenny: 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1 sid: 0.4.11.11-1+b1 squeeze: 0.4.11.11-1+b1 experimental: 0.5.2.1-1
01:57.42CutMeOwnThroathard to say, eh?
01:58.13CutMeOwnThroatI think there's a non-neglegible chance that some packages were updated to sid... and that means there's no going back to stable
01:58.21nsadminlooks like he has the sid version
01:58.28lulzyboyoh great
01:58.32CutMeOwnThroathe's not experienced enough for testing, let alone sid, so he should reinstall
01:58.51lulzyboyi can let you access my server via SSH if you want
01:58.52CutMeOwnThroatdoes it?
01:58.56CutMeOwnThroatit's the same version
01:59.05CutMeOwnThroatwhat does dpkg -l aptitude say
01:59.15lulzyboyin  aptitude       <none>         (no description available)
01:59.23CutMeOwnThroataw
01:59.27CutMeOwnThroatnsadmin, see what I mean?
01:59.31\amethystnooper:  you can look at the package's postinst script to see what sequence number it uses
01:59.37nsadminyeah, it's seriously broke
01:59.53\amethystnooper:  e.g. /var/lib/dpkg/bind9.postinst  contains  update-rc.d bind9 defaults 15 85
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02:00.13CutMeOwnThroatwhatever you do to jury-rig that, he'll be back tomorrow - and we'll all send him to YOU :)
02:00.29lulzyboyi wont
02:00.38lulzyboyill just scream NSADMIIIIIIIIIN!
02:00.51\amethystnooper:  so by default it starts at S15 and ends at K85 .  'defaults' means to start in 2345 and stop in 016
02:01.06CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, I meant you'll experience problems again and again because basically we can't be sure we really fixed it
02:01.12lulzyboyi know
02:01.29nsadminso, yeah, I guess you would reinstall
02:01.44lulzyboyill have to find someway to back up my server sql and files
02:01.53lulzyboythen reinstall and place them back but im not sure how with ispcp
02:01.59CutMeOwnThroatI don't recommend reinstalling often ... but this is one such case
02:02.18nsadminwhat sql are you using
02:02.25lulzyboy5
02:02.29nsadminpostgres?
02:02.34CutMeOwnThroat!very fubar status
02:02.35lulzyboyi think so
02:02.41CutMeOwnThroat!very fubar status file
02:02.41dpkgls /usr/share/doc | grep -v [A-Z] | grep -v '^texmf$' | grep -v '^debian$' |awk '{print $1 " install"}' |dpkg --set-selections then: # dselect --expert, or use this when all your backups of dpkg's status files are corrupt, or try the status file(s) in /var/backups first
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02:02.51CutMeOwnThroatI wonder if regenerating the status file might shed some light...
02:03.46flourishhello all, help. my system is debian lenny amd64. when i try to install gnumeric by apt-get install gnumeric, it said unmet dependencies: gnumeric: Depends: libgoffice-0-8 (>= 0.7.7) but it is not going to be installed
02:03.53CutMeOwnThroat!status recovery
02:03.53dpkgIf your dpkg status file has become corrupted, first backup the current version, and restore a backup from /var/backups/dpkg.status. If all of those are corrupted/missing, then you will have to reinstall all of the packages you currently have installed. try this: find /usr/share/doc -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type d -not -name texmf -not -name debian -printf '%f install\n'|xargs aptitude --schedule-only reinstall; aptitude install;;
02:04.37flourishDepends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0) but 2.14.7-5 is to be installed
02:04.42nooper\amethyst: so if i dont want to do all that, should i be using update-rc.d?
02:04.49\amethystflourish:  somehow you got the squeeze version of gnumeric
02:04.58nooperor rcconf?
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02:05.34\amethystnooper:  whichever you prefer.  I personally don't use update-rc.d for administrative purposes, but rather manipulate the links myself
02:05.45nooperah
02:05.49\amethystnooper:  update-rc.d is more oriented towards packagers than administrators
02:06.00flourish\amethyst: so how can i install it.
02:06.07CutMeOwnThroatwtf, why does none of those factoids say where the status file actually IS anymore?
02:06.08flourishthe libgoffice-0-8: Depends: libgsf-1-114 (>= 1.14.13) but 1.14.11-3 is to be installed
02:06.22\amethystflourish:  do you want to upgrade to squeeze?
02:07.04flourish\amethyst: squeeze is the unstable version?
02:07.13\amethystflourish:   squeeze is testing
02:07.57flourish\amethyst: strange, my sources.list is also uses the testing version of debian
02:08.05\amethystflourish:  aha
02:08.23flourishcan you please give me the source you use
02:08.31CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, what does wc -l /var/lib/dpkg/status* /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 give you?
02:08.44\amethystflourish:  so you had it as 'testing' before lenny was released (when testing was lenny), but now testing is squeeze
02:09.02lulzyboyit went well
02:09.11flourish\amethyst: maybe
02:09.16\amethystflourish:  either   deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
02:09.24\amethystflourish:  or the same with  squeeze  instead of lenny
02:09.30\amethystflourish:  depending on which version you want
02:09.40flourish\amethyst: i want testing version
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02:09.50flourish\amethyst: so i change testing to squeeze?
02:09.58CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, well, what numbers do you get? for status status-old and dpkg.status.0?
02:10.10\amethystflourish:  yes, otherwise you will inadvertantly get half-upgraded when squeeze is released
02:10.20lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
02:10.24lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
02:10.35\amethystflourish:  after changing it, you'll need to do   apt-get upgrade  then  apt-get dist-upgrade
02:10.44flourish\amethyst: no problem. thanks
02:10.45CutMeOwnThroatnot the total, that's not interesting, the values for the single files
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02:11.06lulzyboy3517  old
02:11.06amazon10x_hello
02:11.16lulzyboy<PROTECTED>
02:11.19lulzyboyfor other
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02:11.55CutMeOwnThroathm, dunno
02:12.55CutMeOwnThroat5 lines difference is not enough if you're missing multiple packages, so those are all borked
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02:13.19CutMeOwnThroattry gunzip < /var/backups/dpkg.status.1.gz | wc -l
02:13.19lulzyboyso im screwed?
02:13.27CutMeOwnThroatwell, we already knew THAT
02:13.42lulzyboygave me
02:13.43lulzyboy78
02:13.47CutMeOwnThroatduh
02:13.54lulzyboynow its done
02:14.00CutMeOwnThroatwhat is done?
02:14.12lulzyboyits waiting for next comman
02:14.18CutMeOwnThroatwhat is?
02:14.22lulzyboyssh
02:14.28CutMeOwnThroat?
02:14.36lulzyboyi did gunzip
02:14.57CutMeOwnThroatyou mean  gunzip < /var/backups/dpkg.status.1.gz | wc -l?
02:15.01lulzyboyyes
02:15.10CutMeOwnThroatincrease the number before the .gz
02:15.22lulzyboy73 now
02:15.37CutMeOwnThroatuntil you get something much bigger again
02:15.39CutMeOwnThroatif you ever do
02:15.42lulzyboyserver:~/wrk# gunzip < /var/backups/dpkg.status.3.gz | wc -l
02:15.42lulzyboy26163
02:15.51CutMeOwnThroatyeah, that one, what number is it?
02:15.57lulzyboy3
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02:16.46CutMeOwnThroatok, do cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.broken ; gunzip < var/backups/dpkg.status.3.gz > /var/lib/dpkg/status
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02:16.58lulzyboy-bash: var/backups/dpkg.status.3.gz: No such file or directory
02:17.11CutMeOwnThroatthere's a / missing there
02:17.19CutMeOwnThroatok, do cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.broken ; gunzip < /var/backups/dpkg.status.3.gz > /var/lib/dpkg/status
02:17.31lulzyboydone
02:17.32\amethysterr
02:17.38\amethystoh well
02:17.47CutMeOwnThroatops
02:18.01CutMeOwnThroat\amethyst,  doesn't matter... he's got a copy of the broken one
02:18.08\amethysttrue
02:18.10CutMeOwnThroatbut it's .... beyond anything anyway
02:18.15\amethyst:)
02:18.28CutMeOwnThroatI didn't mean the copy that I just overwrote...
02:18.51\amethystCutMeOwnThroat:  yeah, dpkg.status.1.gz I figured you meant
02:18.54CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, well, try apt-get install libc6 --reinstall
02:19.29lulzyboyOH SNAP
02:19.30lulzyboyIT WORKED
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02:19.44CutMeOwnThroatappearances can be deceiving
02:19.48lulzyboySetting up libc6 (2.7-18) ...
02:19.48lulzyboyserver:~/wrk#
02:19.49CutMeOwnThroatit *apparently* worked
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02:20.35CutMeOwnThroatI still think reinstalling might save you a bunch of trouble
02:20.42lulzyboyok should i remove the old entries from sources?
02:21.02CutMeOwnThroatbecause what we did was play-back a copy of the list of your installed packages before your troubles started
02:21.21CutMeOwnThroatnow everything *looks* ok - but really, we don't know if this list matches what you really have
02:21.38lulzyboybut what would that effect?
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02:21.54iluminator101i get this error http://pastebin.com/d3a9a635f can someone help me
02:21.57CutMeOwnThroatshrugs
02:21.59CutMeOwnThroatwho knows
02:22.18CutMeOwnThroatdepends what broken mix of version you HAVE
02:22.28lulzyboywell what lines are from the old debian bulits in sources?
02:22.30lulzyboyill remove them
02:22.30iluminator101debian squeeze
02:22.33CutMeOwnThroatperhaps only a few programs don't work, perhaps most of them
02:23.10CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, you could do  aptitude reinstall '~i'  - and perhaps that's enough to fix things
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02:23.49lulzyboyE: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download
02:24.02CutMeOwnThroat... and perhaps it'll just show you the trouble and drop you back about where you were
02:24.19CutMeOwnThroat!reinstall
02:24.20dpkgreinstall is probably aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install .  See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone>
02:24.34CutMeOwnThroatyou can also try the apt-get version
02:24.46lulzyboyapt-get reinstall?
02:25.28kamp2tuxDear everybody, could you please advise me when i run aptitude update and I got error W: Failed to fetch http://www.backports.org/debian... 404 Not Found --- I wish to get newer version of pidgin from backports.
02:25.29CutMeOwnThroatiluminator101, perhaps that 'configuration server;' (whatever that is) is just not running?
02:26.02iluminator101what dbus?
02:26.55CutMeOwnThroatkamp2tux, check your sources.list  ... /msg dpkg backports.org for the line to compare with
02:26.59lulzyboywhats that apt-get ?
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02:27.30CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, what dpkg wrote... COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install
02:27.50Jur0!gentoosmite you
02:27.51dpkgspends 6 weeks recompiling you, and when it's all done, you runs 0.5% faster than previously
02:27.56lulzyboyE: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on bash
02:28.02CutMeOwnThroat:-/
02:28.16lulzyboyit says it will use 100k of disk space
02:28.18CutMeOwnThroat*shrug*
02:28.22lulzyboyand apt-get works since i just installed webmin
02:28.23iluminator101deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
02:28.36lulzyboyeverything seems to work...ish so maybe i should just leave it
02:28.40CutMeOwnThroatlulzyboy, well, you know what I'm gonna say next...
02:28.47lulzyboyreinstall
02:28.55CutMeOwnThroat!win lulzyboy
02:28.56dpkgCongratulations, lulzyboy!  You have won second prize in a beauty contest!
02:29.02lulzyboygoodthing is i have webmin, so i can do backsup
02:29.06CutMeOwnThroatargh
02:29.08lulzyboysince it has support for backups
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02:29.13CutMeOwnThroat!tell lulzyboy -about webmin
02:29.26CutMeOwnThroatthat might be the source for your trouble, actually
02:29.33nsadminlulzyboy: you can back up your database?
02:29.48lulzyboyyes
02:29.59lulzyboywebmin is working fine and allows me to backup things
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02:30.35nsadminlulzyboy: good... so here's a suggestion I make to folks that have things like servers and remotes and such... keep a journal for each machine you have
02:30.58lulzyboyits located in my house so i can do whatever needs to be done
02:31.05lulzyboyand i only have the one
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02:31.24nsadminok, so that means only one journal :)
02:31.33nsadminand not on the machine too :)
02:32.08lulzyboywebmin works OK right?
02:32.25nsadminmeaning have a book that you write in with a pen when you do things like install stuff or especially upgrade or do anything to change the machine
02:32.33abrotmanpen!?
02:32.34lulzyboyyes
02:32.37lulzyboyor notepad
02:32.46nsadminright
02:33.17nsadminafter you've reinstalled fresh, you can start the journal empty
02:33.43lulzyboyhey i might not need to
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02:34.25nsadminI think the journal would have helped... this thing of "I may have edited the sources.list to get sid" was sortof unuseful :)
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02:35.10lulzyboyyeah i know that now
02:35.23iluminator101did anyone get there ricoh sd/mmc driver working on debian if so how?
02:35.25nsadminwhat I usually say, is the first thing that goes into the journal is steps to install the operating system
02:35.51lulzyboywell ive got that down to a cue
02:36.21nsadminand customized too, so that your journal reflects the box as it is when you're ready to start the web server and stuff
02:36.42lulzyboymakes sense
02:36.49lulzyboyill go now as its 4:36
02:37.21nsadminand keep it up to date, so that when you have to do this again, you have your steps to do it so you don't have to search too much
02:37.49lulzyboyyep
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02:38.24nsadminand say you want to do a remote the same way... steps in journal will help
02:38.26lulzyboybye bye thanks for being awesome
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02:41.19funyunnoob here, i'm trying to configure rtorrent but i get this error http://pastebin.ca/1459160 . anyone know what's going on?
02:43.09abrotmanstill ?
02:43.13abrotmandid you try with tls ?
02:43.21iluminator101how do you check if flow control is on  or off on eth0
02:43.33abrotmanethtool? mii-tool ?
02:44.08iluminator101k thanks
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02:46.10SolidLiqanyone know if there's a way to edit what the sources.list file will contain in a netboot image for PXE booting, so that your sources will be set to what you want immediately when you netboot a computer into that installer?  Specifically, I want to do this with the Lenny image.
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02:46.30funyunabrotman: tls?
02:47.44spikermanSolidLiq, is it possible?
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02:58.40SolidLiqspikerman: I hope so
02:59.09SolidLiqspikerman: well, it has to be actually, considering you could rebuild the image from scratch, but I mean I hope it's possible without doing hours of work
02:59.29Shadyhi there
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03:00.13spikermanSolidLiq, i agree
03:00.36Shadydoes anyone know how to load a dlc container file via pyLoad?
03:02.03SolidLiqShady: this a Python programming question?
03:02.44Shadyyea python but i just want to know how^^ i dont want to program :D
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03:04.36SolidLiqShady: you could always ask in ##linux-coders
03:04.54Shadyi only want to use it ...
03:05.21Shadyi forgot the command
03:05.38Shadysth like  xxxxx > links.txt
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03:06.47funyunnoob here, i'm trying to configure rtorrent but i get this error http://pastebin.ca/1459160 . anyone know what's going on?
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03:16.28abrotmanfunyun: there's a bug in the configure script it looks like
03:18.00CutMeOwnThroatfunyun, there's a package for rtorrent, why are you trying to compile it?
03:18.28funyunabrotman: can that be fixed?
03:19.06abrotmanask them
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03:23.02CutMeOwnThroatright, ignore me
03:23.26Shadylol
03:23.39funyunCutMeOwnThroat: the package can't do what i need rtorrent to do
03:24.02CutMeOwnThroatso what is that // what do you need to change?
03:24.18funyunCutMeOwnThroat: i need to be able to throttle single torrents
03:24.37funyunCutMeOwnThroat: only the svn version can do that
03:24.42CutMeOwnThroatew
03:24.48CutMeOwnThroatjudd, versions rtorrent
03:24.48juddCutMeOwnThroat: rtorrent -- etch: 0.6.4-1 lenny: 0.7.9-2.2 squeeze: 0.7.9-2.2 sid: 0.8.4+tit-4
03:25.12CutMeOwnThroat0.8.4 not new enough?
03:25.17SolidLiqsweet!  I found the solution!  I have to modify an assembly language program that gets assembled into the pxelinux.0 file
03:25.18CutMeOwnThroat+tits?
03:25.18funyunCutMeOwnThroat: nope
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03:25.56abrotmanfunyun: ask #rtorrent if they know .. or what to do
03:26.13funyunabrotman: did. that place is a ghost town
03:26.24abrotmanbut you've asked here 20 times ...
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03:27.00funyunabrotman: well i get responses here. i figure someone will know what the problem is
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03:27.10SolidLiqah wait, no...  damn
03:27.13abrotmanmaybe try checking it out again
03:27.14funyunabrotman: someone > no one
03:28.32abrotmanbut we didn't write the broken bits
03:29.51funyunabrotman: true
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03:39.45Shadyhow can i make a screen so the command will work along while i can close ssh ?
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03:40.56ThunderguyI can't find the autorun file for openssh-server.... though it's autorunning, I want to turn it off and on when I would like, but can't find it in rc*
03:40.57abrotman!screen
03:40.58dpkgmethinks screen is a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected.  "aptitude install screen".  See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and also ask me about <screen tutorial>.  http://www.gnu.org/software/screen  #screen on irc.freenode.net.
03:41.12abrotmanThunderguy: the what?
03:41.40Thunderguyabrotman: I got opensshd running, but cannot find the symlink anywhere in rc.S or rc.2, do you know how else it could be running?
03:42.01Thunderguyabrotman: I don't want it to autorun, but just can't figure out, how it's autorunning
03:42.13Shadyhm
03:42.19abrotmanthere's a symlink in /etc/rc2.d/ called like openssh-server
03:42.41Shadywhat command do i have to use?
03:42.48Thunderguyabortman: Yeah... there used to be, somehow in my current version, it dissappeared, but it's still being run
03:42.54Shadyto make a new screen switch in and can work in it
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03:44.25abrotmanShady: man screen
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03:45.14Thunderguyabrotman: Well, if it's not in rc* then it can't be running right? must be another user turning it on =/
03:45.24Shadythat doesnt help me :( i dont understand so much
03:45.30Shady< new on debian
03:45.39Brack10can you run tcpdump non interactively?
03:45.46Brack10so I can put it in a /etc/init.d?
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03:46.17Shadycant you help me sayin the command :D
03:46.34Shady@ abrotman
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03:47.07CutMeOwnThroatis building things with scratchbox under debian for a debian based thing still a question for here? :)
03:47.48abrotmanShady: it's a command .. type it and read
03:47.55abrotmanor google for "screen tutorial"
03:47.56Thunderguyabrotman: I think I'm blind, I dpkg-reconfigured openssh, do you happen to know what number it is in rc?
03:48.05abrotmanThunderguy: use update-rc.d
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03:49.45Shadyhow can i kill unused screens?
03:50.17Brack10can I put a command in an init.d that runs interactively?
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03:52.19Thunderguyabrotman: ok, I used it, it replied back as: startup links for ssh already exist, though, I still can't find them in rc2 or rc0 or rcS
03:52.57abrotmanls /etc/rc2.d/*ssh* ?
03:53.16Thunderguyls: cannot access /etc/rc2.d/*ssh*: No such file or directory
03:53.44ThunderguyIt's the weirdest thing
03:54.21ThunderguyIt was there in my last installation
03:54.44Thunderguybut I recently re-installed debian, and it's there in ps, it's running, but it isn't there as a file in startup
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03:55.26Thunderguywhat else does init run?
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03:57.19ThunderguyIt's like it's running 'under' something besides init directly
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04:01.22loke___Is asking questions allowed on this channel? (I'm having some issues getting NFS security working on Debian, and need some advice)
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04:01.52Polarinaloke___: No, asking questions is not allowed.
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04:02.28loke___Polarina: OK, thanks for the heads-up.
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04:04.40Shadythy i got it ;)
04:04.59Shadyim gonna fall asleep gn8 all ^^
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04:09.35decoi have debian etch installed should i upgrade to lenny?
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04:11.50gmapi made a chroot with debootstrap. how can i conver the chroot into an .img file so that I could simulate it in virtualbox or another machine?
04:11.56jvogelI have Debian already installed on my system because I was in a rush to get it on there, but left a 30 GB partition for Windows.  What do I have to do after installing XP to get grub on there and configure it properly, can I just boot from an Ubuntu live CD for example?
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04:18.50DDevinejvogel: You could check out Super Grub Boot Disk
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04:20.16jvogelDDevine: After you install windows you just put in Super Grub Boot Disk and everything works liek magic?
04:20.25abrotmannot quite
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04:20.51abrotmanyou use the super grub disk to load your grub configuration file .. boot debian .. then rerun the update-grub;grub-install magic
04:21.58jvogelah
04:22.17jvogelno messing around with backing up mbr and trying to recovery it
04:24.47jvogelso im safe to stick the windows disc in and install it and then use that to fix everything
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04:40.55mubuHey guys, how can i run a certain sudo command (wondershaper, to throttle and unthrottle a NIC) at  a specific time, only once, not every day or week, etc? thanks (in ubuntu 9.04)
04:44.10CutMeOwnThroat#ubuntu
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04:46.08\amethystmubu:  in Debian you'd use at
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04:46.43\amethystsudo at 12:34 <<<"wondershaper"
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04:48.04juncukhello, i need help how to resolved hostname?
04:48.58\amethystjuncuk:   getent hosts "hostname"
04:49.15\amethystjuncuk:  host "hostname"  will look it up in DNS, but ignores /etc/hosts etc
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04:49.53juncuki type
04:50.08juncuketc : host ns1.example.com
04:50.21juncuknow the hostname is change to ns1.example.com
04:50.36juncukbut if look in dns is not change to ns1.example.com
04:50.38juncukwhy?
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04:51.08\amethysthuh?
04:51.19\amethysthost doesn't change the hostname
04:51.22\amethystit looks one up
04:51.42juncukso ?
04:51.43decojust upgraded from ubuntu to debian :-)
04:51.58juncukuse debian
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05:03.25simonrvnmaybe it's trying to do ap mode? (please note i have no idea if that device can even do that, just a wild guess)
05:04.19kapoiossimonrvn : it's trying Master mode
05:04.35simonrvndoesn't know what that is
05:04.39liablekapoios: you can safely ignore wmaster0
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05:05.27kapoiosliable : well it can't connect to the wifi
05:05.51kapoiosdhcp returns nothing
05:06.15|unjustice|Hi, I am trying to mount an external usb hard drive with this command sudo mount /dev/sde -a -t msdos /home/username/Desktop/folder but I cannot get it to mount, it says the device has "32" as a filesystem on it
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05:06.18liablekapoios: well, thats got nothing to do with wmaster0. just pretend it isnt there, and ignore dhpc when it mentions it
05:06.32|unjustice|does anyone know how I can write a filesystem to it after mounting?
05:06.35liablekapoios: check your iwconfig output and see if the iface is associated
05:08.37kapoiosliable : i'm trying to connect to a wpa2 connection...
05:09.06kapoiosliable : int the interfaces file i add:
05:09.24liablekapoios: ok, try running wpa_supplicant from the command line, and see if it shows anything interesting (-dd will give more output)
05:09.59|unjustice|This thing has a bogus file system, but how do I go about getting a fs that is not bad on there?
05:12.38kapoiosiface wlan0 inet dhcp \\ wireless-essid blabla \\ wireless-channel 6 \\ wpa-driver wext \\wpa-ssid blabla \\ wpa-psk xxxxxxx     and run ifup wlan0. is something wrong with this?
05:13.12liablekapoios: nope, that looks correct
05:13.22|unjustice|there is no valid partition table on this thing
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05:14.48kapoiosliable but there is somethng strange too... if i try to add a wireless-moded Managed in interfaces file i get error about coud not set mode to "hexnumber".could it bethe problem somehow?
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05:15.08liablekapoios: no need to put that in there
05:15.32|unjustice|how do I partition this thing
05:15.38ice799How do I restart syslog in debian lenny? There is not /etc/init.d/sysklogd
05:15.39ice799so I cant restart it
05:15.55ice799I changed my /etc/localtime and I want to restart syslog so the times in it
05:15.57ice799are correct
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05:16.23kapoiosliable : any suggestion then?
05:16.59liablekapoios: only by trying to debug it by running wpasupplicant manually. or maybe you want to try one of the gui wireless managers
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05:18.18kapoiosthe gui managers don't work either.. they don't have anywhere wpasupport
05:18.47liableyes they do
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05:19.32kapoiosliable : well if they do... then they seem to b more difficult to setup than doing so by hand :)
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05:19.48liablekapoios: yeah, they dont always work that good :)
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05:21.15kapoiosliable : in order to run wpa_supplicant by handdo i need to up the interface 1st or run the wpa_s.. 1st?
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05:22.04liablekapoios: yes, bring it up with ifconfig, then run wpa_supplicant (you will need a config file for it, or you will need to run wpa_cli in another terminal)
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05:25.35simonrvnice799: it should pick it up auto anyway
05:25.50kapoios...and one more question about sound. i have 2 sound cards.1 onboard ac97 and a soundblaster audigy eax. lenny detects them both correctly but all mixers show just the 2nd one emu101.. plus i can't get a 5.1 sound .... what sould i do?
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05:26.34NewbyNovice./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
05:26.38NewbyNoviceI need libgtk-1.2 but I can't seem to get it with apt-get ;( ?
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05:28.17simonrvn!+tell NewbyNovice -about search
05:28.17dpkgtold NewbyNovice about search.
05:28.58NewbyNoviceE: Package libgtk1.2 has no installation candidate
05:29.30kornholi!search
05:29.31dpkgPlease search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>.  The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot).  <search dpkg> for factoids.  See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>.
05:29.38simonrvnmight've gotten removed...
05:29.43luckylucyanyone know how to get CUPS disabled in samba with lenny now that it is by default on.  i have tried [printers] load printers = no printing = , but no luck, still about 10 warnings in logfile when starting samba.
05:29.47kornholilibgtk1.2-dev is there
05:30.10woojkornholi, its 'referred to obsolted bla bla'
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05:30.18NewbyNoviceSo I should use libgtk1.2-dev?
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05:31.39kornholio.O
05:31.39NewbyNoviceE: Package libgtk1.2-dev has no installation candidate
05:31.55NewbyNoviceAny help, kornholi ?
05:32.21kornholiSetting up libgtk1.2-dev (1.2.10-18.1) ...
05:32.24kornholi...?
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05:33.02kornholiSetting up libgtk1.2 (1.2.10-18.1) ...
05:33.02NewbyNovicedebian:/home/debian# apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev
05:33.05kornholiits there.
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05:33.16kornholifix your sources
05:33.17NewbyNovicePackage libgtk1.2-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
05:33.26NewbyNoviceWhat source should I have?
05:33.41kornholipastebin your sources
05:34.03kornholi/etc/apt/sources.list
05:34.15NewbyNoviceI know where they are.
05:34.25kornholii have non-free and contrib just fyi
05:34.44NewbyNoviceWTF
05:34.50NewbyNovicePastebin isn't accepting new posts lol
05:35.07kornholipastebin.se
05:35.09NewbyNoviceSorry, your post tripped our spam filter - let us know if you think this could be improve
05:35.15kornholiwow
05:35.15kornholilol
05:35.25NewbyNovicenow what?
05:35.26NewbyNoviceLol.
05:35.38NewbyNovicejoin a channel kornholi and i'll paste it to u there
05:35.40NewbyNovicecome to ##YO
05:35.46kornholiits called #flood
05:36.50kornholitoo bad, sid doesn't have it anymore :)
05:37.00NewbyNoviceDoes stable?
05:37.00kornholihttp://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgtk1.2
05:37.03kornholiyeah, testing too
05:38.19NewbyNoviceSo what can I do?
05:38.27kornholidont use sid ;P
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05:39.06NewbyNovicehas switched to lenny.
05:39.13kornholidesktop?
05:39.17kornholiyou can use squeeze
05:39.29NewbyNovicesqueeze will work?
05:39.32kornholiyeah
05:39.52NewbyNovicelenny is working
05:39.58NewbyNovicebut i should use squeeze right?
05:40.34NewbyNoviceRight?
05:41.20Thunderguylenny is stable :)
05:41.46NewbyNoviceYep
05:41.47NewbyNovicethanks
05:41.49NewbyNoviceworking now
05:41.51NewbyNovicelaters.
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05:55.20luckylucyi tried to run logrotate from cron.daily, but apparently i need to specify more than just sudo logrotate i see many options, i would like to run it as cron will.  anyone know what options cron uses?
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05:58.55\amethystluckylucy:  look at /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
05:59.20luckylucy\amethyst: hello again.  i have it up in vi right now.
05:59.38luckylucyand the manual up to.  i don't know what i should be looking for?
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06:00.12\amethystluckylucy:  you want to know how to call it... /etc/cron.daily/logrotate calls it as /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
06:01.27luckylucyok, so maybe i have it setup wrong.... from what i understand, it will run the setup files from /etc/logrotate.d right? i added one to trim down a logfile, and it is not trimming...
06:02.10luckylucyis there more to the setup than just adding the setup file to the directory and calling the script from cron.daily?
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06:02.40\amethystluckylucy:  if you have logrotate installed you shouldn't have to do anything other than add the file to the directory
06:03.29luckylucyi do, i have all the directories we are referencing, yet it doesn't "rotate" the new logfile.
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06:03.45\amethystluckylucy:  do you have the file /etc/cron.daily/logrotate ?
06:04.02luckylucyyes, i am looking at it's contents as we speak.
06:04.22\amethystluckylucy:  and the script passes the config file /etc/logrotate.conf ?
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06:05.03luckylucyit is only 4 lines.  the 4th has this: /usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
06:05.23\amethystluckylucy:  and /etc/logrotate.conf  exist and contains a line   include /etc/logrotate.d  ?
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06:05.57luckylucyyes
06:06.26\amethystluckylucy:  then it should work... make sure the entry you dropped in is correct
06:06.45\amethystluckylucy:  and that you actually have logrotate installed (
06:06.51\amethysts/($//
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06:08.40simonrvnyou can try logrotate -d /path/toyour/file to see what's happening
06:08.59luckylucyare there any gotchas i should know about? when i try to run cron.daily/logroatate, i don't feel like it is actually running, the shell returns options as to the usage of the file.
06:09.58luckylucysimonrvn: Segmentation fault
06:10.19\amethystluckylucy:  what does  dpkg -l logrotate   say?
06:10.23\amethystwhat version
06:10.27simonrvnlogrotate segfaulted or your application?
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06:10.50luckylucy\amethyst: 3.7.1-5
06:11.10luckylucysimonrvn: the command you gave returned "Segmentation fault"
06:11.21luckylucyi don't know what caused it....
06:11.25\amethystluckylucy:  make sure there isn't an error in your file
06:11.31snowball-fx!segfault
06:11.31dpkgsegfault is probably Core dumped or see Netscape, or ask me about <sig11>, or the program tried to access memory that it didn't own
06:11.34simonrvnbah.. does it do it with -v ?
06:11.52\amethystluckylucy:  what is the exact error you get when you run cron.daily/logrotate?  pastebin it if it's longer than a line or two
06:11.55simonrvn(the bah is not for you, but logrotate ;p)
06:12.20luckylucysimonrvn: yes, with -v as well.
06:12.29luckylucy1min amethyst.
06:12.35simonrvnthere's no gotchas with this, barring bugs ;p
06:13.01simonrvnsounds like an old etch bug, actually
06:13.04omid8bimowaiting for 2.9.30 kernel to be ported to uncle deb :-)
06:13.33streuner_it is, but NOT in default mirrors
06:13.56streuner_omid8bimo: why do you think you need .30?
06:14.41omid8bimostreuner_: just love it give it try..
06:14.58omid8bimostreuner_: recently upgaraded to sid 2.6.29 kernel
06:15.04omid8bimo;-)
06:15.15luckylucy\amythyst: http://pastebin.com/d5fb6efad
06:15.32luckylucysimonrvn: I have "lenny"
06:15.49\amethystluckylucy:  you're not running /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
06:15.59\amethystluckylucy:  that's running it from the path, so /usr/sbin/logrotate
06:16.08\amethystluckylucy:  sudo ./logrotate
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06:17.29luckylucy\amethyst: that is how cron will run it right? i thought it ran everything that was in that folder.
06:17.34mf_417Hi, I tried to install IBSng (free version) on my lenny, I get this error: Error occured:                                                                                                â”‚
06:17.34mf_417│  No module named core                                                                                          â”‚
06:17.34mf_417│  Make sure you have created database and postgresql user
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06:18.09mf_417I have created databse and user! any idea?
06:18.10\amethystluckylucy:  no, cron runs the script /etc/cron.daily/logrotate, which as you saw runs  logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
06:18.48\amethystluckylucy:  but you are running logrotate with no options, so it gives the the usage (it needs to be told at least the name of the config file)
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06:19.08streuner_omid8bimo: there is, just a second
06:19.13\amethystluckylucy:  so either do  sudo /etc/cron.daily/logrotate   or   sudo logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf
06:19.26luckylucyah, ok, but still, it does not do anything with my log file. thanks so far....
06:19.50luckylucyhttp://pastebin.com/d784b4761
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06:20.10luckylucythat is the one.  dnsmasq.log is about 300M right now.
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06:22.50streuner_omid8bimo: http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/
06:23.43streuner_omid8bimo: but keep in mind, these kernels are experimental, you have no support. Just use them if you really need a newer kernel.
06:24.04omid8bimostreuner_: i know
06:24.17streuner_fine
06:24.20omid8bimostreuner_: thanks anyway. would be cool to give it a try
06:24.24\amethystluckylucy:  and there is no dnsmasq.log.1 or such?
06:24.30streuner_omid8bimo: have fun
06:25.08luckylucynope, one file in the directory.
06:25.54luckylucythat "script" is called dnsmasq and is located in /etc/logrotate.d  that is where i found the rest of the "scripts" for logrotate.
06:27.27omid8bimostreuner_: tnx
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06:28.19luckylucyif i do sudo logrotate -v  dnsmasq.log
06:28.25luckylucyi get the segmentation fault.
06:29.08\amethystluckylucy:  ohh
06:29.27\amethystluckylucy:  logrotate, at least with weekly on, does nothing the first time
06:29.42omid8bimoguys, anyone knows a simple tool to monitor system resources like cpu/disk/mem and stuff like that from a web interface? something like mrtg
06:29.53\amethystluckylucy:  it won't rotate until next week it seems (so a day or so from now)
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06:30.40luckylucyso check in a day and pray it works....i don't like that idea....ohh, check this out, i did it again.
06:30.56\amethystluckylucy:   logrotate -v dnsmasq.log  won't work because dnsmasq.log  isn't a logrotate config file
06:31.30luckylucyIgnoring dnsmasq because it's not a regular file
06:31.35luckylucywtf
06:31.38\amethysterr
06:31.47luckylucyerr?
06:31.51\amethystwhat does  ls -l /etc/logrotate.d/dnsmasq  say?
06:32.12\amethysterr,  ls -ld
06:32.29luckylucyah, i am the owner, not root.  it needs to be root right.
06:32.35\amethystthat shouldn't matter
06:32.41\amethystwhat does  ls -ld /etc/logrotate.d/dnsmasq   say?
06:32.52omid8bimoguys, anyone knows a simple tool to monitor system resources like cpu/disk/mem and stuff like that from a web interface? something like mrtg
06:33.00\amethystis it a plain file  (first character - )?
06:33.01luckylucy-rw-r--r-- 1 user user 98 2009-06-13 23:06 /etc/logrotate.d/dnsmasq
06:33.14luckylucypermissions?
06:34.14\amethysthm... the error essage lied
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06:34.43streuner_argh, logrotate is sometimes a bitch :-)
06:34.49luckylucylied? linux the lier....
06:34.58streuner_nah
06:35.08\amethysterr
06:35.12luckylucylogrotate the lier...
06:35.25\amethystI'm looking at the code
06:35.31luckylucythx
06:35.33streuner_huh
06:35.43\amethystit checks whether the conf file is a regular file with S_ISREG
06:35.49streuner_is that lenny?
06:35.50\amethystif not it prints that message
06:35.56\amethystoh, good point
06:36.09luckylucystreuner_: yes
06:36.23luckylucydoes it make a diff?
06:36.29streuner_hm, there was a hugh change (upstream)...
06:36.48streuner_you should just use newer version...
06:36.49\amethystthat if() is exactly the same in lenny
06:37.15\amethystso, yes, Linux is lying
06:37.37\amethystit's saying that the file is not a regular file when logrotate asks, but that is is a regular file when ls -ld asks
06:37.58streuner_judd, versions logrotate
06:38.00juddstreuner_: logrotate -- etch: 3.7.1-3 lenny: 3.7.1-5 sid: 3.7.7-3 squeeze: 3.7.7-3
06:38.30simonrvnlenny's works fine on my lenny box...
06:38.47streuner_some of the important bugs are solved in newer versions, IIRC
06:39.13streuner_but according due release it didnt make into lenny
06:39.27luckylucywhat if i just copy the apache one, and try again.  it is rotating apache logs.
06:39.56\amethystluckylucy: sure
06:39.59simonrvnthat's what i do, i just copy another..
06:41.06\amethystluckylucy:  if it still says it's not a regular file, you probably have filesystem corruption and should reinstall and restore from backups
06:41.08streuner_hm, since when you are using stable? :-P
06:41.48streuner_simonrvn: check out "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" :-P
06:42.14luckylucyit now says log does not need rotating.
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06:43.14\amethystluckylucy:  edit /var/lib/logrotate/status  and change the date on the line for that log file to something last week
06:43.26\amethystluckylucy:  that way it thinks it last ran it a week ago
06:43.32\amethystluckylucy:  then re-run logrotate
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06:44.07simonrvnnothing wrong with my lenny box glibc...
06:44.24maddashuh guys? I think my system might be compromised
06:44.41simonrvnshut the thing down
06:44.57simonrvnstart auditing, restore from backups
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06:46.12luckylucyit's running, yahoo!!!!!
06:46.31luckylucythanks \amethyst, simonrvn
06:47.21luckylucyit went from almost 300M to 12M.  fantastic.
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06:51.07maddashwhy's my auth.log filled with open sudo sessions? http://pastebin.com/m169c473e
06:51.07maddash:'(
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06:56.02\amethystmaddash:  does the user bryant have a crontab?
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07:11.13cyziewhat software to compress video fil
07:11.17cyziefile?
07:11.55nkuttlercyzie: mencoder?
07:13.08cyzielooking for command to do in mencoder
07:13.18streuner_they are usually compressed (divx, xvid)
07:13.55nkuttlercyzie: compressing video is non-trivial. what exactly are you trying to do?
07:15.44cyziei have video taken from my cam
07:15.47cyziein qucktime
07:15.52cyziei want to compress it and convert to avi
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07:36.14CutMeOwnThroatcyzie, someting like mencoder -o file.avi  -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=libx264:mbd=2:trell=yes:v4mv=yes:vpass=1 -x264encopts pass=1
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07:36.33CutMeOwnThroatwell, this doesn't account for sound
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07:37.03cyziemmmmi need sound ;
07:37.04buggerhi all, what part of -f does apt-get not understand? is there a way to force it do something?
07:37.04CutMeOwnThroatrun with pass=2 a 2nd time
07:37.07cyzieas it is video
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07:37.23cyzieCutMeOwnThroat, ?
07:37.23CutMeOwnThroatcyzie, the options for sound are left to you as an exercise :)
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07:38.11CutMeOwnThroatif you run with pass=1 mencoder saves some statistical data in a file you then run with pass=2 and it uses that data
07:38.28CutMeOwnThroatfor that codec it's a bit weird, though, you have to copy/mv/rename that file
07:38.34CutMeOwnThroatbut this is the "best" codec
07:38.45CutMeOwnThroatahem
07:39.07CutMeOwnThroatfor a certain value of "best"
07:39.19CutMeOwnThroat"man mencoder" helps
07:39.40cyziek i try
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07:40.19CutMeOwnThroattry mencoder -oac help  for your options for sound
07:40.20nkuttler!tell bugger about errors
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07:40.44CutMeOwnThroatyou have to tell dpkg WHICH bugger
07:40.57buggerah yep i've just found that
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07:41.08buggeri forced all in dpkg and it did what i was after
07:41.25nkuttlerbugger: bad idea.. but whatever
07:41.32buggerdoing a downgrade from unstable to stable
07:41.42buggernkuttler: yeah but only other option is a re-install
07:41.51CutMeOwnThroat!tell bugger -about downgrade
07:42.05nkuttlerbugger: i wonder how you'll downgrade libc and friends
07:42.36buggerah urk
07:42.49buggerso it'll be a reload anywya
07:43.07CutMeOwnThroatdunno,  is downgrading libc really a problem?
07:43.27buggeri'll soon see
07:44.35CutMeOwnThroatwhat I actually don't understand is why there isn't a tarred base-install
07:44.49buggerwell it boots
07:45.07nkuttlerCutMeOwnThroat: well, you can get a list of installed packages and unextract over /
07:45.23CutMeOwnThroat?
07:45.31CutMeOwnThroatI mean as an alternative to an installation cd
07:45.32nkuttleror do you mean for installs?
07:45.34nkuttlerah
07:45.58CutMeOwnThroatyou have redhat on one disk and a free 50GB partition for debian
07:46.28cyziek nice compression :)
07:46.33cyziefrom 35mb down to 16mb
07:46.36cyziebut no sound yes
07:46.37cyzieyet
07:46.53CutMeOwnThroatyou mkfs.xfs or whatever on that partition, untar the file into that and  get grub/lilo into place with  a chroot
07:47.04CutMeOwnThroatcyzie, the 16 MB are sound :)
07:47.18cyziehehe
07:47.25CutMeOwnThroatno kiddin!
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07:47.47CutMeOwnThroatjust use -oac pcm and you'll see :)
07:48.00cyziek i try
07:48.06CutMeOwnThroatcyzie, in the easiest case you can just use -oac copy - that'll leave the sound untouched
07:48.17cyzieyes, but i liek the soudn to compress as well
07:48.27CutMeOwnThroatit probably is
07:48.32cyziecompressing with -oac pcm
07:48.34CutMeOwnThroatpcm is uncompressed
07:48.54CutMeOwnThroatyou DID NOT run mencoder -oac help as I suggested
07:48.57CutMeOwnThroatelse you'd know
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07:49.28cyziei did
07:49.33cyzieit ask for many options ;-s
07:49.47CutMeOwnThroatso which part of  "pcm      - uncompressed PCM audio" did you not understand, then?
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07:50.14cyzienvm
07:50.28CutMeOwnThroatnkuttler, seems the obvious choice for a linux->linux install to me
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07:51.31CutMeOwnThroatnkuttler, including virtual systems
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07:58.54CutMeOwnThroatzzzz
07:59.37omid8bimoi'm receiving a huge traffic between 2 ip which my system shows gvfs process in use of that
08:00.09omid8bimowhy is that? what is this gvfs is doing and why i should see traffic between those 2 ip?
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08:00.19omid8bimomy net bandwidth is full because of this
08:00.48CutMeOwnThroat!tell omid8bimo -about apt-file
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08:01.25CutMeOwnThroatactually gvfs is the package name
08:01.58CutMeOwnThroatso
08:02.05CutMeOwnThroat"apt-cache show gvfs"
08:02.09cyzieCutMeOwnThroat, how to cut down the video size further?
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08:02.25CutMeOwnThroatheh, did I tell you about "man mencoder"
08:02.38CutMeOwnThroatyou can search inside manpages with /searchterm
08:02.46CutMeOwnThroatsearch for crop
08:03.04omid8bimoCutMeOwnThroat:  i know
08:03.12omid8bimoCutMeOwnThroat: but what its doin?
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08:03.48CutMeOwnThroatomid8bimo, what a remote filesystem is for... transferring data
08:03.58CutMeOwnThroatyou must access a file (or several) on there
08:04.47luckylucyhow can i reload the hosts file.  i had a mistake, and it won't seem to reload with /etc/init.d/networking restart
08:05.07CutMeOwnThroat/etc/hosts should be immediate
08:05.39CutMeOwnThroatno reload necessary
08:06.21luckylucyi am gettin unable to resolve .....  so i took that out, yet the error remains everytime i use sudo
08:06.41luckylucytook the whole line out of the hosts file.
08:06.55luckylucywhere else could the error come from...dns server?
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08:07.27CutMeOwnThroatsure
08:07.46doudouHow can i keep sessions with worg open and be able to switch from user one to user2 keeping all open "windows?" i have xorg with fluxbox
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08:08.42CutMeOwnThroatctrl-alt-F1?
08:09.27wildc4rdmorning all
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08:09.43CutMeOwnThroatmmm that must mean it's bedtime
08:10.02doudoui can use crt alt f1 and start another startx?
08:10.52CutMeOwnThroatyou want a 2nd X
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08:11.11CutMeOwnThroatmost convenient is probably... when you use xscreensaver to lock the screen
08:11.12luckylucyall thre computers are static ip, one is dns server, it's hosts file has the static ips of the others, the others have their 127.0.0.1 and .1.1 adn the static entries for the other servers..... that correct?
08:11.20CutMeOwnThroatit offers you to give you a 2nd login
08:11.32doudoui want to different users, and keep all their process, someone told me linux is multi process and multi users
08:11.44fxinyfunyun: yoyr compiling libtorrent error is a know issue : http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/CompilationHelp
08:12.05fxinyknown*
08:12.23doudoutwo
08:12.29CutMeOwnThroat... when i has locked the screen of the 1st user
08:12.59CutMeOwnThroatyou can also use startx -- :1 from the command line after you logged in on after hitting ctrl-alt-f1
08:13.36doudouwhat doc should i read about x11 and more than one user?
08:13.45CutMeOwnThroatyou need to allow the user to start an X server, though, I think it's forbidden by default on Debian
08:14.55fxinyluckylucy: and what about resolv.conf nameserver ?
08:15.47luckylucyit is wrong
08:15.53CutMeOwnThroatdoudou, there is not much more than what I just told you
08:16.12doudoui trie crt alt f2 and startx but says server is already active for display 0
08:16.22CutMeOwnThroatonly thing I've left to tell you is in which file to allow regular users to start
08:16.29luckylucyfxiny: ok, now it is right, how to refresh?
08:16.33CutMeOwnThroatdoudou, <CutMeOwnThroat> you can also use startx -- :1
08:16.47CutMeOwnThroatdoudou, did you read what I wrote?
08:17.08luckylucyfxiny: nm it refresed itself, problem gone., thanks
08:17.22CutMeOwnThroat:0 is used by the regular server... :1 is another virtual screen that is still free
08:17.43doudoui got it, i mistook: startx --:1 instead stratx -- :1
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08:18.31doudoui have some strange things with video, i supose it is because my video card does not have exact drivers
08:18.37CutMeOwnThroatdoudou, the file is /etc/X11/Xsession.options
08:19.08CutMeOwnThroatI think there has to be "allow-user-xsession" in this file to allow users to start X
08:19.11doudouso too change beetween users i need crt alt f2 and then alt f7
08:19.34CutMeOwnThroat"man 5 Xsession.options" for details  of what goes in there
08:20.10CutMeOwnThroatif your 1st server is on vt 7 and the next on vt 8 you can switch with ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8
08:20.26luckylucywtf, it just did the resolv thing again, it was gone, i changed nothing, now it is back...hardware issue?
08:20.37doudouverry good answers thank CutMeOwnThroat, stop cutting anything valuable please
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08:21.11CutMeOwnThroat!tell doudou -about dibbler
08:21.18CutMeOwnThroatsaussage inna bun?
08:21.26CutMeOwnThroatgot 'em real fresh
08:21.28liableyes please
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08:21.53CutMeOwnThroatgives liable one of his best, i.e. most typical saussages inna bun
08:22.14liableOM NOM NOM
08:22.45CutMeOwnThroatgood, eh?
08:22.50luckylucywounldn't an unable to resolve host error cause ping not to work?
08:22.50CutMeOwnThroatthat's $3.50
08:22.55fxinyonly with ketchup :P
08:23.06CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, not if you e.g. ping 134.34.3.2
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08:23.19CutMeOwnThroatketchup is extra!
08:23.22luckylucyi am pinging hostname.domain
08:23.42fxiny!fixresolvconf
08:23.43dpkgTo fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>).  Alternatively, use <resolvconf> and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers).  Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>.
08:23.43CutMeOwnThroatof course... that uses resolution like everything else
08:23.54fxinyluckylucy: try that
08:24.05luckylucyno problems, but everytime i type sudo .... unable to resolve host
08:24.24fxinyi can't see the chattr +i trick
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08:25.24fxinysign of the times , nothing is better then a vintage factoid :P
08:25.41CutMeOwnThroatthen stop typing sudo
08:26.03CutMeOwnThroatit's a bad habit anyway
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08:26.54luckylucyi am just doing it now all the time b/c i noticed the problem....
08:27.06CutMeOwnThroatsee, that's your mistake
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08:27.22luckylucywhere, i need to fix it....
08:27.28luckylucy:)
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08:27.43fxinyluckylucy: is your resolv.conf changing ? an option is : chattr +i /etc/resolv.con
08:27.56fxinybut ...
08:27.56CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, pastebin what you're doing
08:28.09CutMeOwnThroatfxiny, what's sudo gotta do with it? nuffin!
08:28.14CutMeOwnThroathe's just foolin us
08:28.34luckylucyno, i'm not. hold on.
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08:28.58fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: i like muffins . i'll ask themill  why he forgot chattr +i , i believe he wrote that factoid
08:29.31CutMeOwnThroatwhy chattr?
08:29.49luckylucyhttp://pastebin.com/d3f5c6745
08:29.54fxinylemme scroll up
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08:30.15fxinyisn't all about resolv.conf changing ?
08:30.22CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, you didn't show us what happens without sudo, though
08:30.34CutMeOwnThroatok, right
08:30.40luckylucynothing, every command is fine without it.
08:30.46CutMeOwnThroatso why should sudo try to resolve a host?
08:30.59luckylucyme? i have no idea
08:31.07luckylucywanna see something without?
08:31.08fxinyluckylucy: 10:20 < luckylucy> wtf, it just did the resolv thing again, it was gone, i changed nothing, now it
08:31.20fxinyso ?
08:31.26luckylucyyeah: it is back
08:31.39CutMeOwnThroat"type sudo" also, grep wanda $HOME/.* and su -c grep wanda /root/.*
08:31.49fxinyback what ? the old resolv.conf ?
08:31.56luckylucythe problem
08:32.07CutMeOwnThroatfxiny, there are better ways to deal with dhcp than chattr...
08:32.18fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: yes , i know that
08:32.36CutMeOwnThroatthat's a good reason to write nothing about chattr into factoids!
08:33.54CutMeOwnThroathis problem is not with resolving a host at all, see?!
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08:34.31fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: could it be in the "Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>" ?
08:34.46luckylucyhttp://pastebin.com/d4a97496
08:35.05CutMeOwnThroatfxiny, chattr in this case is not really useful!
08:35.20fxinyright
08:35.47fxinyi'm not a chattr lover , i use dnsmasq
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08:37.35CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, ew, that su -c doesn't work that way... can you just do su, then as root grep wanda /root/.*
08:37.42fxinywt4x , i got it now
08:38.09CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, you must have some config file that is read in when you call sudo that... does something weird
08:38.16CutMeOwnThroatyou must have put it there, too :)
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08:38.55CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, and it's doing something like: someprogram 'wanda.maveric wanda'
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08:39.25fxinyyes , that's strage : wanda wanda
08:39.46CutMeOwnThroatit's got nothing to do with resolv.conf or dns at all
08:39.49luckylucyCutMeOwnThroat: if i su to root then grep wanda /root/.*  no returned message to the prompt
08:40.20CutMeOwnThroatand grep -l wanda /etc ?
08:40.46luckylucyno returned message
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08:41.59CutMeOwnThroatthen I've got no idea WHAT is calling that when you run sudo
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08:42.31CutMeOwnThroatwhat did 'type sudo' give you?
08:42.52luckylucyi just setup this box yesterday, i installed sudo, php5 mysql-server apache2 ssh and smbfs smbclient
08:43.16luckylucysdo is /usr/bin/sudo
08:43.20luckylucysudo is /usr/bin/sudo
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08:43.50CutMeOwnThroatseems ok
08:43.52luckylucyi haven't even fired up the webserver on it yet.  all i did was setup cron and logrotate.
08:43.56fxinyhostname --fqdn ?
08:44.20CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, hm, become root, then run sudo
08:44.31CutMeOwnThroatshows the same message, right?
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08:44.54luckylucyyes
08:45.05luckylucyhostname returns this: wanda.maveric wanda
08:45.17fxinythat's wrong
08:45.21luckylucyi know
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08:45.33fxinyfix your host file
08:45.45fxinycan't be with a space in it
08:45.46CutMeOwnThroatthis is it?
08:45.59CutMeOwnThroatbut why should sudo bother?
08:46.08luckylucyi took everything out of the hosts file.
08:46.08fxinyinteresting question
08:46.14CutMeOwnThroatwhat does cat /etc/hostname say?
08:46.37luckylucywanda.maveric wanda
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08:47.06CutMeOwnThroatmake that just "wanda"
08:47.10fxinyis not fqdn
08:47.25fxinymake wanda.example.com , at least
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08:47.34CutMeOwnThroatno
08:47.45luckylucyfxiny: same result
08:47.47CutMeOwnThroatsingle word is fine... I have that :)
08:47.51fxinywanda is not fqdn
08:47.57CutMeOwnThroatoh yes, that only takes affect after a reboot
08:48.12CutMeOwnThroatfor now, you can run
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08:48.15fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: you have that ? are you running postfix ?
08:48.39luckylucyhostname is supposed to be fqdn or not?
08:48.42CutMeOwnThroatfxiny, no :) I don't need it...
08:48.50fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: i do :=)
08:49.08CutMeOwnThroatrun hostname wanda
08:49.08luckylucyok when should it be fqdn and when not?
08:49.33luckylucyproblem gone.
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08:49.46CutMeOwnThroatfxiny, actually the mailserver running exim also has just "chip" in /etc/hostname
08:49.58luckylucyso why did that fix it?
08:50.11fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: i use example or myflat
08:50.18CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, wrong question
08:50.25luckylucywhat is the right one?
08:50.28CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, because you changed the hostname
08:50.38CutMeOwnThroatunsatisfying answer, eh?
08:51.07luckylucynope, one more question: what does that have to do with sudo
08:51.17CutMeOwnThroatluckylucy, why sudo would bother about an unresolvable hostname in the 1st place
08:51.24fxinyCutMeOwnThroat: chip ? oh that's cute ;)
08:51.28linkddoes anybody know if it is at all possible to get asoundconf on squeeze? the package alsa-utils in squeezes seems to have had it removed although i cannot find why. any ideas?
08:51.35CutMeOwnThroatfxiny, as in dna-chip, actually
08:51.41luckylucyi wouldn't think it would care.
08:51.53luckylucydoesn't seem that it would be related at all.
08:52.06CutMeOwnThroatlinkd, check the bts as to why... also /msg dpkg apt-file and search for it
08:52.21luckylucybut anyhow, should hostname contain a fqdn?
08:52.28CutMeOwnThroatlinkd, /msg dpkg bts :)
08:52.45CutMeOwnThroatit actually can't contain a fqdn, because that only comes with dns
08:52.53CutMeOwnThroat"man hostname"
08:52.54fxinysudo  sai can't connect to wanda.maveric wanda : see the space ? no one can connect to that ugly/wrong hostname
08:52.55Winkiei'm having an odd problem, i've built myself a few cpan modules, and while trying to install one i get this: cpan-libpathtools-perl (>= 3.2501) but 3.30-1 is to be installed
08:53.01Winkiesurely 3.30 is > 3.25
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08:53.24fxinydunno why , i dislike sudo
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08:54.05CutMeOwnThroatWinkie, 30 < 2501 ?
08:54.08luckylucyCutMeOwnThroat: what about the hosts file? i have seen wher you put in name    name.domain   and any vhosts in one entry...is this just a differnt animal.....
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08:54.23WinkieCutMeOwnThroat: ah right, is it actually compared that way?
08:55.02ajavidhey
08:55.05CutMeOwnThroatWinkie, obviously, it seems
08:55.23WinkieCutMeOwnThroat: haha well it could be, i'll build it and call it 3000 i guess
08:55.25ajavidI compiled my own kernel on lenny -- linux-image-2.6.29_custom.1.0_amd64.deb - and i got this package.  I also specified --initrd while making it
08:55.36ajavidis there anything else I need to do besides install this and reboot
08:55.54ajavidanything to do with initramfstools or some such? (I can't recall, been a while sinc eI build a kernel)
08:55.57ajavidplease advise
08:56.03CutMeOwnThroatWinkie, 2501 is an amazingly high version number, btw...
08:56.39fxinysounds like some cult calendar :P
08:56.46WinkieCutMeOwnThroat: they're autobuilt modules so it's just the CPAN version # i suspect
08:56.57Winkieand i guess it's the same as .25-1
08:56.57ajavidany kernel people?
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08:57.35kapoioshi. i'm still trying to setup my wifi. i have a rt2561 chipbased card and the driver(+firmware) is loaded ok. ican c the network with "iwlist wlan0 scan". I just edit /etc/network/interfaces and run ifup wlan0 but nothing..i get and error in the logs: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP):wlan0:the link is not ready. any help plz?
08:57.36CutMeOwnThroatajavid, pray? cross your finger? perhaps /msg dpkg initramfs ?
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08:59.33cahootajavid: why even use an initrmafs if you build a custom kernel?
08:59.40ajavidUsing mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk.
08:59.42ajavidnm
08:59.46ajavidthe kernel package does it
08:59.49ajavidwow, fantastic
09:00.08Winkieok CutMeOwnThroat that seems to have worked, gonna have to remember that one for the future!
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09:00.20ajavidcahoot, i hav eno idea
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09:00.30ajavidcahoot, im a newbie and as such i do not know if i needed to do that or not
09:00.40ajavidthat is why i asked here
09:01.09cahootsort of extending the newbie definition?
09:01.43ajavidim sorry ?
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09:01.46roxazerwhat can I do if I got a new network card and got it plugged in but can't get any internet connection?
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09:01.56ajavidcahoot, i don't understand what you mean by extending?
09:03.13cahootajavid: might have confused your nick with someone elses (since long a regular here)
09:03.25CutMeOwnThroatkapoios, sounds like a job for google and/or the bts
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09:03.51CutMeOwnThroatroxazer, google the card, find out which kernel module it needs
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09:04.33roxazerCutMeOwnThroat: nvm, just ran dhclient
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09:05.43CutMeOwnThroatok, in that case my answer would have been "hell, depends on what you already tried"
09:05.47caraconanHi, bluetooth issue: I can send from pc to movile, but from movile I don't see the pc. More info: http://pastebin.com/m316df69d. Any help? Thanks
09:06.04ajavidcahoot, who?
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09:06.44cahootnyle? and another (forgotten)
09:06.52ajavidits still me
09:07.01kapoioscutmeownthroat : did a lot of it.. for many days and can't get it work
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09:08.32CutMeOwnThroatkapoios, tried only using iwconfig/ifconfig/route ?
09:09.08CutMeOwnThroatkapoios, does the card associate?
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09:10.37kapoioscutmeownthroat : does not associate
09:10.53kapoiosnot route
09:11.02CutMeOwnThroat!nicktab
09:11.03dpkgHitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles.  For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one.
09:11.12mrbob009ive setup ssh on a debian server (in a network), and changed the port ... then created a port-forward for it in the router....
09:11.41mrbob009but i cant connect from inside the network > outside > to the ssh server..... i think this is a technical limitation?
09:11.49CutMeOwnThroatkapoios, try switching off encryption // limiting to special mac addresses and all other tralala in the wireless router...
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09:13.17CutMeOwnThroatmove the laptop close to the sender, too :)
09:13.39mrbob009kapoios: wlan troubles?
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09:13.59kapoioscutmeownthroat : it's not my router... it's my neighbour's  (he just gave me the wppapsk)
09:14.09ajavidcahoot, im actually trying to build fglrx for .29 on lenny
09:14.19mrbob009check 'dmesg' during debugging, the driver might make something clear
09:14.22mrbob009kapoios^^
09:14.29ajavidcahoot, I used the config from backports .29, and using now .29 custom kernel
09:14.47ajavidcahoot, I'm trying to build fglrx via module assistant and it fails
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09:15.19ajavidi'd stick with .26 but i need ext4 support
09:15.40CutMeOwnThroatkapoios, well, talk to him... perhaps he's gone for a while... you must go step by step finding something that works 1st
09:15.45sepultfails with 26 too
09:15.52lvhhello
09:15.53ajavidsepult, really
09:15.58sepultjep
09:16.02sepulthere it fails
09:16.06kapoiosmrbob009 : i do get an error : ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP) wlan0 the link is not ready
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09:16.15caraconanNow I started obexftpd, I can see the pc from the movile, but I get an error on the movile when I want to send the same pic that I sent from pc to movile...
09:16.37mrbob009kapoios: what do you see in dmesg, after loading the wlan-device-module by hand?
09:16.41mrbob009(after stopping it)
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09:17.36dpkg#444340:I[fglrx-kernel-src] fglrx-kernel-src: Fails to build on amd64 kernel. (upstream); Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:48:02 UTC [460806]
09:17.47ajavidfan freakin tastick
09:18.02kapoiosmrbob009 : didn't try that.. just the error from ifup
09:18.11ajavidis that for lenny
09:18.14ajavidwhen was lenny released
09:18.17mrbob009kapoios: i suspect a driver problem
09:18.18ajavidwhat year is this
09:18.28ajavidomg im going retarded i need to sleep
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09:19.39kapoiosmrbob009 : don't think so.. it's a rt2561 chip and the driver is rt61pci + the firmware
09:20.47mrbob009kapoios: can you pastebin iwconfig?
09:21.03mrbob009and check dmesg (last lines) to see if the driver has problem
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09:25.57kapoiosmrbob009 : i'm in win now (no net in linux).. but the driver is loaded ok after i installed the firmware (i checked dmesg line by line) and iwconfig gives the right values for the iface wlan0
09:26.52mrbob009but after trying to connect.. the driver might drop some lines about a problem
09:27.07mrbob009thats why i say, keep an eye on tail -n 10 dmesg
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09:28.45mrbob009kapoios: you know that for wpa, you need wpa_supplicant right.....
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09:29.06kapoiosmrbob009 : while loading ti gives no error
09:29.16kapoiosyes
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09:29.41mrbob009kapoios: that doesnt mean it works problemless
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09:30.26mrbob009its shitty you cant try it.. while staying here..
09:30.36mrbob009no other pc you can use to chat?
09:31.14kapoiosnope
09:31.43kapoiosbut i assure u that the driver is loading ok..
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09:32.07kapoiosthe problem lies on the ADDRONF(NETDEV_UP) error
09:32.28mrbob009no shit sherlock :')
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09:32.44kapoios:)
09:32.54mrbob009.. "<kapoios> but i assure u that the driver is loading ok..' < for the 9th time, that it loads ok
09:32.58mrbob009doenst mean it works ok
09:33.08kapoiosaa..yes
09:33.11mrbob009< my experience >, done up with about 5 wlan devices
09:33.43mrbob009btw
09:33.48mrbob009what ifup command did you run
09:33.49kapoiosfound somewhere while googling that this errror has to do with wpa_supplicant daemon and the wait time till the iface is up
09:33.57mrbob009just ifup rl0? or something
09:34.08kapoiosifup wlan0
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09:36.25mrbob009kapoios http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516970
09:36.58av__can you point me to a decent guide for making your own debs. I need to create a multiple binary set from jack 1.9.3 svn source on sidux. thx
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09:37.56av__ps i cant build lmms on sid i386. anyone built thos sucessfully? thx
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09:38.53mrbob009kapoios: im not sure if debian (i dont use X) uses NetworkManager
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09:39.05kapoiosit does
09:39.12kapoiosand is running on th bg
09:39.17mrbob009but i know that NetworkManager might communicate a bit differently with wpa_supplicant
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09:39.19kapoiosbackground
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09:39.33kapoiosshould i kill it maybe?
09:39.37mrbob009no
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09:40.22mrbob009kapoios http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=516971
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09:45.53mrbob009kapoios: also read the 2nd last ocmment here http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5018
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09:46.55hoo-hahhi guys. after a recent update, i notice in my bootlog and - sometimes when i install packages - dpkg: warning: obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture', please use '--print-architecture' instead.
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09:47.20hoo-hahis this safe to ignore untill package installation uses --print-architecture?
09:48.23kgoetzyou could file a bug against the package, but its a warning to the packager, not you per es
09:49.23hoo-hahthere appears to be a few packages which sput this error
09:49.47hoo-hahis it because that while most devs were notified of a change in dpkg flags, that a few were nowhere to be found?
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09:54.02nkuttlerhoo-hah: warnings are just that - warnings. give it some time.
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09:57.27ilyakëÁË ÓËÁÚÁÔØ hal "ÒÁÚÒÅÛÉÔØ ×Ó£ ×ÓÅÍ ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ×ÅÚÄÅ ÎÁ×ÓÅÇÄÁ, ÎÁÈÕÊ ÂÌÑ ÂÌÑ ÂÌÑ ÂÌÑ ÎÁÈÕÊ"?
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09:57.36ilyak÷ Ó×ÑÚÉ Ó ÜÔÉÍ ×ÏÔ: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/8358748d0fbe17ca
09:57.52ilyakáÌØÔÅÒÎÁÔÉ×ÎÙÊ ×ÏÐÒÏÓ, ËÕÄÁ ËÌÁÓÔØ   synce-hal.conf?
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09:59.14Internathi guys. i ahve an encrypted file system which is on a loop back interface
09:59.22Internathow the hell do i run fsck.ext3 on that?
09:59.30hoo-hahilyak: what the hell sort of encoding is that?
09:59.37adb!tell ilyak about ru
09:59.38hoo-hahilyak: clearly wrong channel
09:59.39ilyakhoo-hah: Oh, sorry, wrong channel
09:59.56ilyakHow do I tell hal to enable everything and just let me use fucking synce-pls?
10:00.03ilyakBecause right now it wouldn't
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10:00.41ilyaksynce_info_from_hal: Failed to get a connection for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_02_b3_92_a8_c4: RoverPC_G6: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.63"
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10:00.51ilyakHow do I fix that? Where to put synce-hal.conf?
10:00.57anddamhello
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10:07.06ilyakI should've put it into /etc/dbus-1/system.d
10:07.10ilyakSecurity sucks
10:07.41ilyak"Security" causes the most troubles and doesn't actually works when it is needed
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10:13.14kaizokuI'm trying to use the orinoco drivers, and I keep getting "Card removed while issuing command" errors.
10:13.32kaizokuI followed the guide at http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco to get the firmware, but it's still not working.
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10:30.03ilyakHow would I sync *files* using synce?
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10:31.36adbman sync
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10:33.34LaeborgAfter reboot my logical volume is inactive and I need to 'lvchage -ay <my_volume>' for activate it, before I can mount it.
10:33.50LaeborgCan't this be done automatic?
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10:43.12leogaziohi all
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10:43.49leogaziohi cafaro
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10:45.00nkuttlermeh. 1TB accidentally deleted. time to get out.
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10:45.14leogaziohi mag_mor
10:45.34mag_morhi
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10:46.09leogazioman, I'm trying to change computer name on ubuntu
10:46.15leogaziohow can I do it?
10:46.33amphileogazio: please ask in #ubuntu
10:46.49leogaziooh thanx
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10:54.04ItsMeHi guys 'n' girls. Is Debian able to run on an Mac?
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10:54.55HaWeRhttp://wiki.debian.org/MacBook
10:55.41ItsMeThanks, but i mean on elder systems, g3 for example.
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10:56.13nkuttlerItsMe: sure, /msg dpkg ig
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10:57.40ItsMeExcellent. Thanks a lot and have a nice day.
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11:07.13zirodayHi, is there a list of the official debian repo's?
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11:07.38morphexhi..  what's the right way to re-order startup of services in debian?  is there a special tool?
11:07.42azeem_ziroday: what kind of list?
11:07.43morphexi need to bring up iscsi before lvm..  :)
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11:08.38zirodayazeem: well there is the main debian repo right? And then a security one as well?
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11:12.57sepultwhy does usbcore pull in snd-usb-audio ?
11:13.10sepultthat's totally messing with my alsa-driver
11:13.30sepulti have to call alsa-conf everytime anew, to get the order right
11:13.36sepultmaaaan, that's annoying
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11:15.47Eternal_Sinhi everyone
11:16.05Eternal_Sini have a little question
11:16.33Eternal_Sinwhen i install an application compiling from the sources, who can i uninstall it?
11:16.45Eternal_Sin*how >-<
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11:17.51zirodayEternal_Sin: depends on the program, usually its make uninstall
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11:18.39Eternal_Sinziroday, just make uninstall? but that app should have a own folder right?
11:18.58Eternal_Sinziroday, with that file
11:19.07zirodayEternal_Sin: well yes, how did you install the application?
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11:20.01Eternal_Sinziroday, oh, I undesrtand, you can install and uninstall the app from the folder that has the sources
11:20.12zirodayyep
11:20.30Eternal_Sinoh, thanks ^^
11:20.53zirodayEternal_Sin: have fun
11:21.08Eternal_Sinziroday: be sure of that
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11:29.48dustybinare there any remote desktop protocols what work better than VNC ?
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11:32.01luckylucyi use something called xrdp i think...
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11:34.07dustybinluckylucy: that sounds good
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11:53.26luckylucyi started using it before i got comfortable enough with the shell, now just ssh does the trick.  i used it with xfce desktop on the linux box (i think that is the name of the desktop...)
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11:57.20bluethundrI am trying to install gd so I can install nagios and getting this error: /gd-2.0.33/gdparttopng.c:42: undefined reference to `gdImageCreateFromGd2Part'
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11:59.56abrotmandid you compile it ?
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12:00.59bluethundrI ran configure and make
12:01.02bluethundr\./configure --prefix=/usr/local/gd --with-png=/usr/local/libpng \
12:01.03bluethundr--with-jpeg=/usr/local/jpeg
12:01.47bluethundrmake produces the first complaint I showed you
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12:03.15Aberration2Hi all!
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12:04.17Aberration2How can I use both my black AN color cartridge in my HP deskjet? The printer utility of debian only allow one
12:04.53abrotmanbluethundr: why are you compiling it instead of using the debina package ?
12:05.23bluethundrI see a LOT of deb packages, not sure which one to pick
12:06.08bluethundrlibgdbm-dev   ?
12:06.20abrotmanso instead of installing one or asking, you just decided to compile it ?
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12:06.31PingFloydbluethundr: no, that's a header pkg
12:06.45PointManif I do /etc/init.d/service start, does it then start up automatically as well at next boot?
12:06.51bluethundrI am following the nagios book
12:07.08abrotmanbluethundr: why not just `aptitude install nagios` ?
12:07.14PingFloydPointMan: it only starts automatically if there is a symlink pointing to for your runlevel
12:07.15abrotmanPointMan: no
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12:07.30PointManPingFloyd: whats the normal run level?
12:07.34abrotmanPointMan: usually the symlinks are in /etc/rc2.d/
12:07.36PingFloydPointMan: 2
12:07.40bluethundrnm, I'll figure it out, thanks for playing
12:07.45abrotman!run at startup
12:07.45dpkgMake a init script by copying /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d/ then install it with update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README, or as a user you can also use a cron entry with @reboot, or add it to /etc/rc.local
12:07.45PointMank thanks
12:08.06abrotmanbluethundr: so basically, you're going to ask about compiling stuff because aptitude is too hard?
12:08.16bluethundrno dude drop it
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12:09.15zagibucan anyone lift my confusion? The mac80211 wireless stack is integrated in the kernel, so, what do I have to install to get the driver's sources? The kernel sources?
12:09.41cahootzagibu: depends on what drivers you need
12:09.56cahootzagibu: some are included some not
12:10.04abrotmanzagibu: if it's in the kernel, then that should be enough
12:10.19abrotmanzagibu: get the linux-source package for your kernel, and then look for it
12:10.23zagibuI am already using the mac80211 version of the rtl8187 driver, but I have to patch it, meaning I need its source
12:10.34abrotmanzagibu: uname -a
12:11.01zagibui have a 2.6.28-11 kernel
12:11.10abrotmanzagibu: please ask #ubuntu for support
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12:11.35zagibui already did, they only answer questions about compiz and other useless bling
12:11.47abrotmanthat's not our problem .. ask #ubuntu, ##linux .. or install Debian
12:11.51zagibubut how is it on debian?
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12:12.07abrotmanwe do not support debian-based distros here
12:12.17azeemzagibu: kernels are handled totally differently on ubuntu and debian
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12:13.02zagibuyeah, ok, so, if I change to debian, how does it work there? Do I install the kernel source, or do I have to download driver source?
12:13.24abrotmaninstall debian, then come back and ask
12:13.48zagibuok...wait a second, I do have a debian server lying somewhere around
12:13.56abrotmanthis isn't funnt
12:13.57abrotmanfunny
12:14.20zagibuLinux debian 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed May 13 15:37:46 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
12:14.32abrotmanif you want support for your ubuntu box, go to #ubuntu
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12:15.23daysleeperhey there ppl
12:15.31daysleeperJust installed debian
12:15.32zagibuhello
12:15.35luckylucyhow can i log an error from a bash script.  i can echo to a file if it reaches that point, but how to echo a failure.
12:15.40daysleeperon one of my partitions
12:15.50abrotmanluckylucy: 'script' maybe
12:15.52Aberration2hum... no one has no idea to select both color and blck cardridge on debian?
12:16.04Aberration2^^
12:16.06daysleeperbut I have't installed grub while installing
12:16.18daysleepercause i wanted to keep my current menu.lst
12:16.31daysleeperso now i kinda need help with booting
12:16.50daysleeperit's installed on my hd(1,0)
12:17.09daysleeperwhen i pass option /vmlinuz in my menu.lst it boots kernel
12:17.19daysleeperbut root=/dev/hdb1
12:17.26daysleeperdoesn't seem to work
12:17.33daysleeperi got kernel panic
12:17.39abrotmanless enter key please
12:17.39PingFloydroot= should point to where your init is
12:17.59abrotmandaysleeper: did you also point it to your initrd?
12:18.04daysleeperno
12:18.08PingFloydthe easiest way to have grub see your /boot is to run its setup from the grub shell
12:18.16daysleeperso initrd=/initrd.gz ?
12:18.22luckylucylittle more specific here, how can i tell if a copy command worked from a bash script so i can write a if else statement to log properly to the logfile?
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12:18.46daysleeperPingFloyd, I have grub installed from b4
12:18.57daysleeperI just want to add menu entry so i don't touch it
12:18.58abrotmanluckylucy: man bash has a bunch of variables that are set a certain way for previous commands etc
12:19.01PingFloyddaysleeper: is your /boot in the same partition?
12:19.10zagibuluckylucy: you could make an md5sum of the file and compare it with the copied file
12:19.15daysleeperI have dedicated 7 MB partition for grub
12:19.35daysleeperso i just need menu.lst entry that works
12:19.36luckylucyabrotman: thanks i will read, zagibu, i haven't gotten that far yet :)
12:19.37PingFloyddaysleeper: has the location of /boot changed since then?
12:20.02daysleeperI have /boot on same partition and grub in there
12:20.09abrotmanluckylucy: man bash .. /special parameters
12:20.10daysleeperbut that's not where from my grub boots
12:20.24daysleeperI have grub on separate 7 MB partition
12:20.32daysleeper^^see above
12:20.33zagibudaysleeper: it might help if you pasted your menu.lst somewhere
12:20.37abrotmanluckylucy: you could also ask #bash
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12:20.45daysleeperI'll just try adding initrd
12:20.52daysleepersince i booted without it
12:20.54PingFloyddaysleeper: grub needs to know at least two things
12:20.58abrotmandaysleeper: if it panics again .. write down where it panics
12:21.03daysleeperc ya l8r
12:21.05PingFloyddaysleeper: where your kernel is, and where your init is
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12:21.20PingFloyddaysleeper: if you're using an initrd then it needs to know that too
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12:21.36daysleeperboth kernel and initrd are on root of debian partition
12:21.45daysleeperit must be initrd
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12:22.03PingFloydDassu: then you need to setup grub again
12:22.04ubsafderhow can i rebuild the debian  installer ?
12:22.05TrueDDHi all
12:22.16abrotman!tell ubsafder about custom netinst
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12:25.02JanhouseIs it possible to update initramfs from live cd?
12:25.29JanhouseI messed it up and I need to fix it now :D
12:25.35JanhouseAny suggestions?
12:26.07patrikfJanhouse: sure. mount your root partition, mount --bind /dev and /proc inside it, chroot into it, run update-initramfs
12:26.30patrikfif you have one, you of course will also have to mount your /boot partition
12:26.48Janhouseok
12:27.26ubsafderi have used in the past the debian installer on a NSLU2 but i did not see how the installer was built . i would ike to learn about that installer now
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12:29.00patrikfJanhouse: no private messages please, you can ask the channel as well
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12:29.39Janhouseok
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12:29.48JanhouseHow can I chroot to that root partition and where do I have to mount it's boot partition?
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12:30.05PingFloydJanhouse: chroot is the last part you do
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12:30.19JanhouseI am on debian at the moment
12:30.29Janhouseubuntu's root is mounted on /media/root/
12:30.40Janhouseand boot is mounted on /media/boot
12:31.02Janhousedo I have to mount boot inside /media/root/ ?
12:31.03PingFloydJanhouse: for instance, mount to /mnt so you have /mnt/dev/ /mnt/proc /mnt/boot then chroot, use --bind for the /dev and /proc though
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12:31.58patrikfJanhouse: yes, you should mount that under your root mountpoint
12:32.15abrotmanJanhouse: you're going to use debian to repair ubuntu's initramfs ?
12:32.29PingFloydJanhouse: are you trying to update the initramfs for debian?
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12:33.02Janhousefor ubuntu
12:33.11abrotmanbut using debian ?
12:33.14PingFloydthe one on the CD?
12:33.18Janhouseyes, at the moment
12:33.24JanhouseI am switching to ubuntu
12:33.30abrotmandoesn't the version of initramfs-tools .. kind of matter ?
12:34.04Janhousehope not
12:34.06Janhouseanyway
12:34.18Janhousemounted root, boot
12:34.36patrikfJanhouse: we only support pure debian here, as various changes on debian-based systems can change things dramatically. please go to #ubuntu or ##linux for help
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12:35.13Janhousepatrikf I understand you support debian. At the moment I am using debian so I hope it will work anyway
12:35.42Janhouseso what after mounting root and boot?
12:36.26Janhousehow can I bind that proc and dev?
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12:38.53DynamicPinkI think squeeze broke my KDE. An apt update put a bunch of updates, but it won't launch. I get this error "kicker: Depends: kdebase-data (<4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.2-1 is to be installed"
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12:39.29Janhousepatrikf any ideas?
12:40.02patrikfJanhouse: you want to fix your ubuntu installation, I told you why we don't support ubuntu here.
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12:40.20daysleeper555ok ppl, I manged to boot debian, it was initrd line that was missing
12:40.46daysleeper555but now i need wvdial to manage connection
12:40.56daysleeper555or if there's some usb3g tool
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12:41.13daysleeper555to configure modem
12:41.18kingpin2Hi, I have an error. I hope this is the right place though.
12:41.20kingpin2[Sun Jun 14 12:37:30 2009] [error] [client 24.125.169.179] Request exceeded the limit of 10 internal redirects due to probable configuration error. Use 'LimitInternalRecursion' to increase the limit if necessary. Use 'LogLevel debug' to get a backtrace.
12:41.30kingpin2Should I try apache channel
12:41.51daysleeper555I can't believe debian does't come with wvdial
12:41.53Janhousepatrikf it doesn't matter I am trying to fix ubuntu. It is based on debian anyway. I simply have to recover initramfs adn problem should be solved. So what yould you do if were recovering debian?
12:41.59mesa_boogeris it an apache error ? looks like random garbage to me
12:42.15kingpin2http://penguincheatscp.info works fine
12:42.24kingpin2but when you navigate to unexisting pages, you get internal server errors
12:42.37daysleeper555do i need any additional dependencies for wvdial from here?
12:42.37kingpin2http//penguincheatscp.info/dev http://penguincheatscp.info/he
12:42.39daysleeper555http://packages.debian.org/lenny/wvdial
12:43.05patrikfdpkg, tell Janhouse about ubuntu
12:43.28nsadmindaysleeper555 try installing it and see what it needs on your system
12:43.47daysleeper555yep, but am not in debian now since my connection isn't configured
12:43.55daysleeper555so i don't want to reboot again
12:44.12mesa_boogerpatrikf: i have some sympathy with ubuntu users coming here. the regulars/ops in #ubuntu are as thick as pigsh*t :)
12:44.14daysleeper555do i need to download additional modules for 3g modems or something?
12:44.25daysleeper555or it should recognize them
12:45.34abrotmandaysleeper555: pppconfig ?
12:45.43daysleeper555that's already in debian?
12:45.59abrotmanthey're both in debian .. just might be installed
12:46.12daysleeper555well, wvdial isn't
12:46.17daysleeper555command not found
12:46.26abrotmanmesa_booger: that's not really our problem .. and it doesn't make it better when the regulars there send people here for help
12:46.34nsadminjust because it's not found doesn't mean it isn't in debian
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12:46.39abrotmandaysleeper555: sorry ... just might not be installed :)
12:46.45abrotmandaysleeper555: pppconfig usually is
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12:46.50daysleeper555isn't it supposed to be in executable path?
12:46.51Janhousepatrikf I think your solution worked anyway. Will reboot and see what happens. Thank you! :)
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12:47.17patrikfmesa_booger: it's a matter of principle... if canonical makes a lot of money with a debian-based OS, I can't help that. but I don't feel like I have to help ubuntu users then...
12:47.42nsadmindaysleeper555: it's not necessarily even installed; certainly not installed by default, not in the base, etc
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12:48.06daysleeper555ok
12:48.25abrotmanpppconfig
12:48.34nsadminpppconfig should replace this wvdial thing
12:48.55mesa_boogerabrotman / patrikf : yes, i hear you guys. i just wanted to throw in a quick insult. i'll refrain from such in future
12:49.00abrotmannot sure about replace .. but at least be usable
12:49.22daysleeper555which was the kernel version in debian lenny?
12:49.34mesa_booger2.6.26-2
12:49.39daysleeper555x
12:49.39daysleeper555tx
12:49.43abrotmanthere is a .26, while an unofficial .29 exists
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12:50.00nsadminoh, I just meant that wvdial may or may not be in debian, but pppconfig (and the underlying structure surrounding it) should cover its functionality so it wouldn't be needed
12:50.01jaggz-any little kde alarm program?
12:50.12jaggz-I'd like to click on the clock/calendar and set an alarm really
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12:50.42mesa_boogerkorganizer ?
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12:51.03teilzeitstudentJust a little question.. how can I make "vi" use the proper keyboard shortcuts? typing "vim" will use the corrent ones, but im kinda used to only type "vi".. any way to change those?
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12:51.38mesa_boogerteilzeitstudent: set nocompatible
12:51.43nsadminvi is an older editor, vim has extra stuff
12:51.58daysleeper555nsadmin, i think i might need it for my huawei modem
12:52.04daysleeper555http://wiki.debian.org/Huawei/E220
12:52.05mesa_boogerteilzeitstudent: you can have that in vimrc
12:52.11teilzeitstudentmesa_booger, and.. where do i set that?
12:52.13teilzeitstudentah
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12:52.43jelly-homedaysleeper555: well, install it then.
12:52.49jelly-homejudd: versions wvdial
12:52.50juddjelly-home: wvdial -- etch: 1.56-1.2 lenny: 1.60.1+nmu2 sid: 1.60.1+nmu2 squeeze: 1.60.1+nmu2
12:52.53daysleeper555k
12:53.01daysleeper555i found lenny package already
12:53.11daysleeper555looking for wvdial.conf on that wikki now
12:53.28jaggz-mesa, that might work, thanks.. ahh, here it is in office.. and I installed orage a while back..
12:53.30jaggz-too
12:53.51daysleeper555ok, bbl
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12:53.55nsadminmesa_booger: do you have an amp that sounds like your nick?
12:54.41mesa_boogernsadmin: used to have. now playing acoustic
12:54.43jaggz-korganizer's nicer from first glance at the calendar, thanks a bunch
12:54.51jaggz-back to workz
12:54.53jaggz-:)
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12:58.07zxdanyone seen this error before "pcie_portdrv_probe->Dev[25e5:8086] has invalid IRQ. Check vendor BIOS"
12:59.00mesa_boogerzxd: nope. but you can find out which pcie card it is with lspci
12:59.27jelly-homethat pciid looks upsidedown
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13:00.29jelly-home8086:25e5 would be an Intel board PCIe port
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13:01.45JanhouseI told you it should work! :) It did! :D
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13:02.17enoufjelly-home: endianess? :-p
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13:02.48jelly-homeenouf: more like a typo in some printk
13:03.06enoufaye
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13:04.48mesa_boogeras regards the wrong irq, maybe it needs apic to work
13:04.51enoufa WAG would be someone trying to force nvidia SLI on an ATi chipset :-p
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13:05.39mesa_boogercat /proc/interrupts for the assignments
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13:06.06loulouloulouhi all I got two internet connections and one LAN connection, I did switch from connection A to connection B..now I want to switch back to connection A...I did flush all Iptables rules did set masquerade to connection A and I did add the default gateway for the router to con A ..route -n clearly shows that ...on the router traceroute passes through connection A..however on clients traceroute still passes through connection B..although iptables -nl
13:06.08loulouloulou<loulouloulou>  -t nat shows MASQUERADE through con A not con B and there are no SNAT rules...I also did ip route flush chache ...any ideas what I missed here ?
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13:07.33enoufwelp; here's the code and where the error text comes from ;-) http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/drivers/pci/pcie/portdrv_pci.c#L76
13:07.50jelly-home!wtf welp
13:07.51dpkgGee...  I don't know what welp means...
13:07.53kripzIm currently logged into my server via SSH, i need to shutdown the local pc and i dont want to loose the current running program on the server. Can i somehow send the current job to a screen session?
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13:08.02enoufdpkg: you're silly
13:08.02dpkgenouf: I wish you would RTFM.
13:08.15jelly-home!botsnack
13:08.15dpkgaw, gee, jelly-home
13:08.15enoufno, tell jelly-home to!
13:08.33nsadmin!botsmack
13:08.33dpkgsmacks nsadmin right and properly
13:08.50anddamwhat's Debian menu files' path?
13:09.06jelly-homekripz: no, start screen in advance then run the job in it
13:09.11enoufprobably something in /usr/share/
13:09.32kripzjelly-home, i cant stop the current process
13:09.43enoufanddam: man update-menus is all i can offer .. but IIRC, /usr/share/
13:09.51mesa_boogerprobably something in /usr/share/menu :)
13:10.18jelly-homekripz: then it's up to that process and its handling of losing its terminal and getting a HUP signal
13:10.19enoufmesa_booger: thing is, i've altered that .. nothing happened :-p
13:10.29zxdmesa_booger, 00:05.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 5 [8086:25e5] (rev b1)
13:10.32anddamenouf: I want to check if Dictionary.app is supposed to have a menu entry, I remember to have browsed the path, I'll check man
13:10.41jelly-homekripz: maybe it'll survive, maybe not
13:10.56kripzjelly-home, compiling the kernel
13:11.00anddamenouf: and /usr/share/menu it is
13:11.23jelly-homekripz: that's _hardly_ a noninterruptable service, you can always run it again
13:11.25enoufmesa_booger: reminds me of my one attempt at a USB Lexmark printer and CUPS .. it would say everything is working fine, and said "Test Print page printed successfully" ... but nothing happened :-/
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13:11.56anddammaybe not strictly debian-related, can I have spell-checking and dictionary autocompletion on x-chat?
13:12.09jelly-homekripz: "make" will not rebuild what's already there
13:12.11mesa_boogerenouf: lexmark doth suck badly. even turboprint refuses
13:12.35kripzjelly-home, thanks, i can now go to bed knowing it will work in the morning
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13:15.50abrotmananddam: spellchecking, yes .. not sure about dictionary auto-complete
13:16.01abrotmananddam: there is  #xchat i bbelive
13:16.03abrotmanbelieve
13:16.32teilzeitstudentIs there a way to disable ipv6 in lenny? DNS lookups take forever. I followed some guide saying to add "alias ipv6 off" to /etc/modprobe.d/00local, but it does not work with xchat
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13:16.52loulouloulouhi all I got two internet connections and one LAN connection, I did switch from connection A to connection B..now I want to switch back to connection A...I did flush all Iptables rules did set masquerade to connection A and I did add the default gateway for the router to con A ..route -n clearly shows that ...on the router traceroute passes through connection A..however on clients traceroute still passes through connection B..although iptables -nl
13:16.55zxdwhat's the name of that program that spreads the cpu interrupts across all Cores
13:16.55loulouloulou<loulouloulou>  -t nat shows MASQUERADE through con A not con B and there are no SNAT rules...I also did ip route flush chache ...any ideas what I missed here ?
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13:17.30anddamabrotman: thanks
13:17.36abrotmanteilzeitstudent: i'd imagine if you google 'ipv6 module disable lenny' .. you'll get more than one hit .. i've seen them on blog posts
13:17.44jelly-home!noipv6
13:17.44dpkgextra, extra, read all about it, noipv6 is echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409
13:17.50abrotmanor that!
13:17.57anddamabrotman: and is there a mean for "system wide" autocompletion/spellchecking?
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13:18.41abrotmananddam: i'm really not sure about the autocomplete .. but i'd imagine if you have the correct libraries installed, that the spellchecking is auto for all users (unless they disable it in their config)
13:18.43zxdsomething with irq load balancing
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13:19.06apostlewhat can I run to re-configure my sound card.....every time I use an application with sound it freezes my computer
13:19.17jelly-homezxd: apt-cache search irq balance
13:19.21teilzeitstudentdpkg, yea I followed that guide, only works for ping and such, though.
13:19.21dpkgteilzeitstudent: I wish you would RTFM.
13:20.25jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: it disables the ipv6 functionality in the system.  What exactly does your app still do?
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13:22.33zxdmuch better now
13:22.35teilzeitstudentjelly-home, xchat takes forever to lookup dns entries. it used to be system-wide, the alias entries removed that problem, only xchat remains a problem (and maybe apt-get.. that one takes a long time as well)
13:22.42zxdNow I can actually type
13:23.10jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: ok, so you're having resolver issues, not ipv6 issues
13:23.23jelly-homeblames avahi
13:23.38anddamabrotman: are we talking the same environment? I mean autocompletion in xorg apps
13:23.56abrotmananddam: you said xchat
13:23.58anddamabrotman: but I understand there are just too many API to have a coherent behaviour about this
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13:24.15anddamabrotman: actually I miss OS X's autocompletion in Cocoa apps
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13:24.18jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: grep ^hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
13:24.25kingpin2Ok
13:24.29kingpin2I am really confuse now
13:24.54jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: does a "getent hosts irc.freenode.net" take a long time?
13:24.59kingpin2earlier I had all of my domains redirecting via vhost files.. now I removed them and restart apache2 and all 404 files are interlan errors.
13:25.02_Lucretia_is there some meta package to install all the gnome dev files and docs?
13:25.03teilzeitstudentjelly-home, that returns "hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4"
13:25.04kingpin2*internal
13:25.21luckylucyi have asked before, and didn't write it down, but here it goes again: how do i get the size of a directory and everything in it. ls -l just shows 1block for the folder.
13:25.41nsadmindu
13:25.52teilzeitstudentjelly-home, still waiting.. so yea I guess :P
13:26.10luckylucytx
13:26.12teilzeitstudentnow its done.
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13:26.31jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf (or paste it here if it's less than 4 lines)
13:27.01woojAnyone know by chance how I can use xrandr to have my 800x480 display and my 1650x1050 display actually have desktops 2 and 1 assigned to them, respectively?
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13:27.10wooji.e. I want my main desktop to be my external monitor at 1680x1050 and desktop 2 to be the eeepc LCD at 800x480.  All I can get them to do is show the same desktop right now at the max resolution
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13:27.29teolicyWhen I install a deb for Python 2.6.2 over Python 2.6.1. How does dpkg/some other part of the packaging mechanism know to leave my already installed Python modules alone?
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13:27.45jelly-homewooj: pastebin the output of "xrandr" please
13:27.50teilzeitstudentjelly-home, http://pastebin.com/m1799870e which was set during install using dhcp from my router.
13:27.58woojjelly-home, sure one sec
13:28.17teolicySpecifically, I'm under the impression 'python setup.py install' for module foo might change my Python installation. How do minor upgrades like 2.6.1 -> 2.6.2 not break these changes?
13:28.22teolicy(not sure what they are exactly)
13:28.42woojjelly-home, http://pastebin.ca/1459945
13:28.43jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: alright, and does "host irc.freenode.net 192.168.2.1" return reasonably dast?
13:28.50jelly-home(fast)
13:29.03teilzeitstudentjelly-home, guess that needs a little change? Though I do not get why ping works quick while xchat doesnt.
13:29.06teilzeitstudentjelly-home, sec
13:29.52zirodayHi, I get this error when trying to install anything http://pastebin.com/m78da12f3
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13:30.15teilzeitstudentjelly-home, works quick for the freenode servers, lists a couple of them and then hangs, exitin with ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
13:30.49teilzeitstudentjelly-home, http://pastebin.com/m15402a57
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13:30.58jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: is the time spent in that hang comparable to delays in the irc client?
13:31.06DebianUserhi
13:31.21teilzeitstudentjelly-home, hum... let me check
13:31.32DebianUseranyone know how to use memtest result with badram kernel patch
13:31.33DebianUser?
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13:32.09woojjelly-home, anything you want besides the output of xrandr I posted?
13:32.12jelly-homewooj: looks like you should be able to do eg. "xrandr --output LVDS --below VGA --auto" to make them display separate pictures and appear logically one below the other
13:32.22teilzeitstudentjelly-home, no. a lot shorter
13:32.26woojjelly-home, ok let me try
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13:33.13kingpin2how do I use log level debug
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13:33.24anddamjelly-home: btw, as you're talking about xrandr, how can I create a new screen? I only have "Screen 0" with default output even if I add more Screen sections in xorg.conf
13:33.25jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: in that case it really might have to do with avahi.  Replace the hosts: line in nsswitch.conf with just "hosts: files dns"
13:33.32BenBEHelp in the fight against Internet Censorship in Germany: Information can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qthyyl0VmfY and http://www.leyenhaft.de/petition.php?
13:34.02jelly-homeanddam: it's all a big virtual Screen 0 now
13:34.15woojjelly-home, nope... they're still showing the same desktop.  I am hoping I can have desktop 1 and desktop 2 both up at the same time on seperate displays.
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13:35.06jelly-homewooj: oh. your window manager (or desktop environment) will have to support that
13:35.12teilzeitstudentjelly-home, I did and also /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart". still takes the same amount of time
13:35.31woojjelly-home, ohh.  Do you know which ones do?  I'm using openbox and lxde right now, but I'm hardly devoted to them ;)
13:36.07jelly-homewooj: not really, I'm using two displays as windows into a single desktop
13:36.18anddamjelly-home: so I should define new outputs?
13:36.22DebianUseranyone know how to use memtest results with badram kernel patch?
13:36.23woojjelly, okay.  Thanks anyways :)
13:36.24anddamshould I*
13:36.36teilzeitstudentjelly-home,  "echo -ipv6 > /etc/make.conf && emerge --newuse world" did the trick under gentoo xD
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13:38.13jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: pastebin your nsswitch.conf, "ifconfig -a", "time getent hosts irc.freenode.net", and "time host irc.freenode.net 192.168.2.1" as they work now
13:38.16kingpin2plz helpme fix this
13:38.16DebianUseri have 6 old pc in a small lug with dram problem... so i saw memtest result could be used with a kernel patch named badram ... any info on thisù
13:38.18kingpin2[Sun Jun 14 13:22:04 2009] [error] [client 24.125.169.179] Request exceeded the limit of 10 internal redirects due to probable configuration error. Use 'LimitInternalRecursion' to increase the limit if necessary. Use 'LogLevel debug' to get a backtrace.
13:39.13abrotman!badram
13:39.14dpkghmm... badram is a kernel patch that allows you to safely use RAM modules that have errors - see http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/
13:39.26jelly-homekingpin2: sounds like an apache misconfiguration error.  If you added RewriteRules or Redirects, you'll have to fix them.
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13:40.32jelly-homekingpin2: adding the suggested log setting will make your ErrorLog output more verbose
13:40.58jelly-homehah. "safely use ram modules that have errors"
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13:41.53dustybinjelly-home: are you proud of your box?
13:42.15jelly-homedustybin: ?
13:42.30dustybinHostname: wizbox - OS: Linux 2.6.26-1-686/i686 - CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 (3192.097 MHz) - Processes: 169 - Uptime: 118d 22h 43m - Load Average: 1.09 - Memory Usage: 553.82MB/1011.42MB (54.76%) - Disk Usage: 525.31GB/1146.09GB (45.84%)
13:42.36dustybinim proud of my box :D
13:42.40DebianUser<PROTECTED>
13:42.41dpkgDebianUser: no worries
13:42.43teilzeitstudentjelly-home, http://pastebin.com/m27c40f52
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13:42.53jelly-homedustybin: I don't get it.
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13:43.07dustybinjelly-home: erm, never mind
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13:44.00jelly-homejeez, still 20 seconds for that lookup
13:44.05luckylucyhow does one copy all files and directories within a directory exept directory xyz.
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13:44.50testsssany one can help me, what software can be use to read sms from Nokia N73 mobile phone?
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13:45.26jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: oh well.  strace -tt -TT -o someoutputfile getent hosts irc.freenode.net, then pastebin the output file
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13:45.49dustybinluckylucy: man cp
13:46.19jelly-homeluckylucy: you could use rsync and its --exclude
13:46.33teilzeitstudentjelly-home, aye.. under gentoo, xchat (just like wget and such) have their own ipv6 "useflag".. meaning if that is used, extra compile options are used in the configure script.. so I guess xchat under debian was compiled with those options?
13:46.42teilzeitstudentjelly-home, alright.. hold on
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13:47.04jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: it's not an xchat issue, when a mere getent exhibits the same symptom
13:47.24teilzeitstudentjelly-home, ah. .true :P
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13:48.07jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: apps usually just use the resolver (libc) calls, and when there's no ipv6 support at all, the resolver should be smart enough not to even try AAAA records
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13:48.47jelly-homeno need to rebuild anything
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13:49.47jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: the strace options used will show pretty timestamps and time it takes for each syscall to return
13:49.54teilzeitstudentjelly-home, http://pastebin.com/m7780fdff
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13:50.48jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: the resolver in your router sucks.
13:51.10jelly-homeer, recursive dns server in it, I mean
13:52.14teilzeitstudentjelly-home, well the "poll" calls take as long as the timeout thats pased to the call.
13:52.38jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: just for fun, do try to get rid of the "search" line in /etc/resolv.conf and then test
13:52.55teilzeitstudentjelly-home, yea.. the router in general sucks. sec
13:53.20jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: oh, and the domain line too.
13:53.25nsadminjelly-home: what effect would doing that have?
13:54.18teilzeitstudentjelly-home, same
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13:55.26jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: that's unexpected
13:55.39dbboltonwhat is the key to get to the bios settings on an asus notebook with ami? i have tried esc, f10, f12, and del
13:56.01teilzeitstudentdbbolton, doesnt it show during boot?
13:56.07cockroachdbbolton: f1 and f2 are good candidates, too
13:56.16dbboltonteilzeitstudent no it does not
13:56.38jelly-homensadmin: for every domain listed in search, resolver tries to add it to the name if the name doesn't end with a ".", until one works
13:56.49dbboltoncockroach ok i will try those
13:57.30teilzeitstudentdbbolton, if that asus has any "special" keys (like my thinkpad, the button is called "thinkvantage" for whatever reason), you might want to try those as well
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13:58.41dbboltoni got into it once by hitting a bunch of random keys. definitely not the ost efficient means
13:58.50teilzeitstudentxD
13:58.52cockroach:)
13:59.18dbboltonesc just opens a dialogue to choose the boot device
13:59.27jelly-homedbbolton: sounds like an excellent question for GOOGLE
13:59.29nsadminbut it shows your machine has a bios to get into...
13:59.50dbboltonjelly-home google? what is that? i've never heard of it
13:59.53jelly-homethis is not ##amibios
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14:00.30dbboltonjelly-home really? i thought it was ##amibios
14:00.40dbboltonwhat is this?
14:00.47jelly-homeone can easily see how one can make that mistake
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14:01.52dbboltonjelly-home i know that there are plenty of knowledgeable people in this channel. thats why i asked.  google just gave me a bunch of results relating to bios updates
14:02.11teilzeitstudentjelly-home, well guess I'll give up... not much of a problem if at least firefox and such work fast. Thanks a lot for your time!
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14:02.49jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: np
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14:03.49jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: a stupid workaround would be to install a local dns cache or nscd
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14:04.40enoufabrotman: you around? what's that utility that i think is called 'rtach' or similar (but google is failing me) that allows one to reattach to a disowned process (with caveats)?
14:04.50dbboltonhere's a debian specific question. my notebook occasionally hangs- screen freezes, no response to keyboard or mouse, and the power led starts flashing. what should i look into for it?
14:04.53jelly-hometcpdumps and realizes his own squeeze machine tries to look up an AAAA record first even if there's no ipv6 connectivity
14:05.41teilzeitstudentjelly-home, another would be to not use dhcp and enter the ISPs DNS- servers directly (checked that out earlier), but they are down from time to time and then everything takes even longer -.-
14:05.50jelly-homedbbolton: if some of the keyboard leds go flashing on a hang, it means a kernel panic of some sort
14:06.14jelly-homenot sure if that can happen with the power led
14:06.20dbboltonjelly-home weird. it happens even on the stock squeeze kernel.
14:06.33jelly-homedbbolton: using any binary drivers?
14:06.41dbboltonjust nvidia
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14:06.48jelly-homeso "yes"
14:07.01dbbolton"yes"
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14:07.37jelly-homewell, you could try going without them for a while I guess
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14:08.55dbboltonis it remotely possible that it's a hardware problem?
14:09.05jelly-homeit would be nice to have a secnd machine or a serial terminal, and have a serial console set up to catch any kernel panic message, but laptops these days don't have serial ports
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14:09.23jelly-homedbbolton: could be that too... are you sure it's the power led?
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14:09.39jelly-homenot, say scroll or num lock
14:10.27dbboltonjelly-home no, i'm not sure. the icon above this led is just a cylinder
14:10.55jelly-homeO
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14:11.18jelly-homecould be hdd
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14:11.41dbboltonduring normal operation it blinks somewhat randomly, sort of like the "internet" light on my dsl modem
14:12.15teilzeitstudenthmm cant you configure the syslog to create an extra file for kernel panics? not sure how to prevent it from beeing deleted, though. that might help on the error hunt :p
14:12.57dbboltonit's much easier to bug people on irc
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14:14.48cahootdbbolton: laptop?
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14:14.59teilzeitstudentright. just ssh into your box then, panics might be printed in that console as well
14:15.21jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: if the disk subsystem is working an syslogd process is working and klogd process is working and the filesystem is writable, what's there to panic about
14:15.25dbboltoncahoot yes
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14:16.08jelly-hometeilzeitstudent: usually kernel dies in such a way that no disk writes are safe any more, so panics don't get logged
14:16.20cahootdbbolton: I might be totally of track here but what does: hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep Adv return?
14:16.39cahoot(subst sda for whatever name you disk has)
14:16.45teilzeitstudentjelly-home, ah :p
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14:18.29dbboltoncahoot level 254, apm feature set
14:19.02cahootdbbolton: ok - no further questions
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14:19.15dbboltonyour witness
14:19.56dbboltonwindows 7 randomly shuts down too, but that could be any number of things.
14:20.28jamiejacksontrying to install debian lenny netinst in a virtualbox vm, but i got to a point where it tells me: Media change: please insert the disc labeled: Debian GNU..." i don't know what it wants or how to get by this. i thought i already had that iso mounted in the vm, otherwise i don't think i'd have gotten to this point. ideas?
14:21.09dbboltonjamiejackson what option did you use at boot
14:21.40jamiejacksonhmm, trying to remember what those were. it was yesterday. it was something like gui install?
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14:22.38dbboltonjamiejackson try the regular one, just hit enter
14:23.03fxinyenouf: dtach
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14:23.44dbboltonjamiejackson it will probably give you a better idea of what is going on
14:23.49jamiejacksondbbolton, you mean back to the beginning?
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14:24.00valanhi
14:24.02dbboltonyeah
14:24.07jamiejacksonokay
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14:25.06enouffxiny: thanks - and hello!  ..but it's not dtach, i'm aware of that one ;-)
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14:25.53fxinyenouf: is not dtach ? lemme know then :)
14:26.04enouffxiny: hey! what are you doing on _this_ network!? :-P
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14:26.31fxinyenouf: looking for peace ?
14:26.34enouffxiny: hopefully abrotman will shake off his hangover soon O_o
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14:26.50enouffxiny: will you settle for love?
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14:26.52enouf:-P
14:27.03fxinyenouf: never , love is like a disease :P
14:27.29enoufdoes /j #debian-offtopic on that _other_ network, and invites fxiny ;-)
14:27.29valanbut it's the good kind of disease!
14:28.42fxinyenouf: i'm already on the "other" , with amphi btw , but i'm fine this way . quiet and silent :))
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14:31.04luckylucy2ok, i like rsync b/c its fast.  i like tar b/c it compresses to one file.  where is the best of both worlds?
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14:31.23enouffxiny: haha .. i'm there now too ... wait@! you're not there!
14:31.27fxinyrsync does compression
14:31.42luckylucy2fxiny: to one file?
14:31.48enouffxiny: gotta run out -- bbs
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14:31.58fxinyenouf: ;)
14:32.16cahootluckylucy2: rsync -avz?
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14:34.54dbboltonthe last.fm plugin on rhythmbox doesnt submit any tracks. any thoughts?
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14:37.38dbboltonhere's a though: switch to quodlibet. im sick of rb
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14:38.47fxinyaqualung is not bad , i use xmms2
14:38.47jaggz-any way to do drm under linux?
14:39.03jaggz-other than virtualbox?
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14:39.34jaggz-(virtualbox with xp running in it, to use windows media player 10)?    winetricks crashes my X session :(
14:39.39jaggz-(when i try to install wmp10)
14:40.06jaggz-and wmp9 doesn't install with some cabextract error, but this broadcast requested wmp 10 anyway
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14:40.51fxinyno idea , the only windows app i run is firefox :P
14:42.03anddambye thanks
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14:43.19vsysclosehi, someone can tell me, why when i try to compile a personal C project library(/usr/lib/*) and include(/usr/include/*) seems to not be linked. For example i use M_PI(with <math.h> include), but i've got : "error : M_PI undeclared, first use in this function"
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14:43.55tetraedrhi
14:44.20tetraedrI've got a problem installing debian with usb stick
14:44.27tetraedrit doesn't bypasses cd boot check
14:44.30tetraedr*cd check
14:44.38tetraedrany ideas how to I solve this?
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14:45.53valanvsysclose  you sure you are including math.h ?
14:45.56vsysclosetetraedr: you change boot priority ? with usb stick on the 1st boot order
14:46.07valantetraedr  you might have to change it in bios
14:46.27valansome bios you can hit f12 or something to bring up a menu of what to boot
14:46.32tetraedrhm
14:46.33vsysclosevalan: yes i'm sure. the project was compiled on freebsd, and it compile very well on it.
14:46.34tetraedrthanks
14:46.35tetraedrtrying
14:46.54craigeviljaggz-:  better to get rid of the drm, take a look at freeme2 on debian-multimedia.org
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14:46.58valaneh i dunno vsysclose, maybe you have a bad math.h
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14:47.32tetraedrdoesn't work :(
14:47.41vsysclosevalan: i checked it, and math.h contain the MACRO. i dunno, i suspect a bad linker configuration :/
14:47.46themillvsysclose: check the ifdef around M_PI in /usr/include/math.h
14:48.25luckylucy2cahoot: is that tar.gz, i just see archive for -a
14:48.28valanoh heh i didn't even see the ifdef when i looked at math.h
14:48.51cahootluckylucy2: no it's only compressed
14:49.49vsysclosethemill: haaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i found #if defined __USE_BSD ...
14:49.52themillvsysclose: having said that, a trivial example just worked for me so that shouldn't be the problem
14:50.06luckylucy2cahoot: does the -a turn it into one file?
14:51.18themillvsysclose: http://pastebin.ca/1460013 works fine
14:51.18cahootluckylucy2: no - but I suggest you read the man page
14:51.19luckylucy2i am right now.
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14:51.37vsysclosethemill:  indeed it's strange. i'll add anyway a __USE_BSD define before the include of math.h
14:51.58themillvsysclose: shouldn't be needed... I'd look elsewhere at your code/compilation options
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14:52.22themillvsysclose: try out that minimal example I just pastebinned first
14:52.42vsyscloseok
14:53.26vsyscloseho that's good!
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14:59.34tetraedrany ideas how to make netinst to see the image on usb?
14:59.49tetraedr(instead of trying to probe cd-rom's)
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15:01.11vsysclosethemill: it's not a big project, i use x11... but i found nothing that can be in conflict
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15:06.03HaWeRhi, im having some troubles to add a script for runing at boot time. I added the script to /usr/sbin.. and in the code i wrote on /etc/init.d/ i put case of start " start-stop-daemon --start --exec /sbin/pingcheck " (pingcheck is the is the script i made..( when i use /etc/init.d/pingcheck start give me the code..:
15:06.22HaWeR"Unable to start /sbin/pingcheck. Exec format error (exec format error)
15:06.53HaWeRany idea? :?
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15:07.44zirodayHi, when trying to install php5 why does apache get pulled in too?
15:07.45WalexHaWeR: does '/sbin/pingcheck' work from the command line?
15:07.52HaWeRyes it does..
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15:08.38valanziroday i'm guessing that php5 is the package for the apache module
15:08.58zirodayvalan: then what would be the standalone one, or the one for lighttpd?
15:09.07valanyou could likely use php5-cgi
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15:10.09zirodayvalan: awesome, thanks!
15:10.35HaWeRWalex: yes, it does.. maybe is a problem of my script? im newbie on scripting, but when i execute the script it works perfect
15:11.05abrotmanenouf: retty
15:11.11valaneh downthemall extension locks up firefox
15:11.12WalexHaWeR: have you put the '#!/bin/...' at the top?
15:11.13valanhow horrible
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15:13.01HaWeRWalex: there was the problem.. thanks. I wrote it, but using in /etc/init.d/ i used bin/bash, and in /sbin/ i used /bin/sh..
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15:13.05HaWeRthanks! :D
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15:14.35mischieviouscan someone tell me how to file a bug report w/ X? my X has crashed like 4 times this morning :\
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15:14.53valanwhy has it crashed?
15:15.18mischieviousi am not sure, the logs simply say 'caught signal 11', memory problems i guess
15:15.29valando you know what signal 11 is?
15:15.29mischieviousit presents a backtrace, but i dunno what to do with it
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15:15.32mischieviousyes
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15:15.57valanok
15:15.58JomyootCan you change username? rename it?
15:16.12valani have nfc how to file a bug report with x btw
15:16.29valanbut it would be better to try and track down exactly what is causing it
15:16.43valanthen if it's still deemed to be a bug with x then submit the bug report
15:16.47mischieviouswell, i've no idea how to go about that either
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15:17.24valantry changing stuff, like run gnome instead of kde for example
15:17.28valanmaybe it's an app doing it
15:17.36mischieviousi don't use gnome
15:17.37mischieviouslol
15:17.41mischieviousor kde
15:17.54BadgermasterThe only time I got that error was when I used the nvidia driver instead of fglrx
15:17.56valansurely you get my point there
15:18.02valani don't care what you use
15:18.04mischieviousyeah
15:18.14valantry different drivers as well
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15:18.26valanuntil you can narrow down what the problem is, your bug report will be useless
15:18.53shyam_kin debian package search, how can i know in what section the package is? main, contrib..etc?
15:18.54mischieviouswell, my driver is intel.. :x
15:19.13fxinymischievious: join the xmonad cult :P
15:19.13mischieviousshyam_k, `aptitude show <name>` i think
15:19.17valantry with vesa or vga see if the same things happens
15:19.27mischieviousfxiny, i use xfce4 and scrotwm, thanks :D
15:19.32shyam_kmischievious: i mean the online search
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15:19.40fxinymischievious: heheh
15:19.58fxinymischievious: xfce4 is a fat wm
15:20.10mischieviousyes, indeed it is
15:20.24mischievious(in fact it might be slower than gnome on here >.<)
15:20.32valanxfce is a de specifically
15:20.40valanxfwm is the wm ;)
15:20.43mischieviousi know
15:20.45mischieviousi use them both
15:20.54mischieviousxfce doesn't play well with scrotwm.
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15:21.17fxinyvalan: xmonad is the tetris of wm , just try once and never stop using it
15:21.23valani've used it
15:21.31fxinyyes ? good news
15:21.39valanthere's very few window managers i haven't used
15:21.50valani can't stand tiling window managers
15:22.09valanthey never cooperate with me
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15:22.46valani tend to prefer openbox
15:22.50fxinyi feel a tiling wm is like plugged directly into my brain , is so natural
15:23.07fxinysomehow , i think that way
15:23.18valanon kde atm, but only because it's a fresh install i've barely had time to mess with so far
15:23.30BadgermasterI gave up on wm's last time I installed fluxbox and couldn't find my old config
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15:23.51valanso you don't use window managers anymore?
15:23.55BadgermasterSo now I just go with the default
15:23.57fxinyBadgermaster: i use flux , yes
15:24.05valaneh
15:24.11valani'm not at all a fan of flux
15:24.28Badgermastervalan: If you could get flash and java to work in elinks then I would quit using window managers
15:24.28fxinyon xmonad only , since lenny release
15:24.34valanflux is way too l33t for my tastes
15:24.57valani'd be happy for elinks to run graphical on the framebuffer or something
15:25.10valanalthough
15:25.21fxinyvalan: leet ? comparing it to xmonad fluxbox is like windoze
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15:25.58valani mean in the way that all the "l33t h4x0rz" run fluxbox
15:26.21valani already stated my opinion on xmonad ;)
15:26.27BadgermasterDoes that mean I used to be a l33t h4x0r
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15:26.33valanno
15:26.35mischieviousyay, i'm in scrotwm :3
15:26.47valanit means most of the people who thought they were used fluxbox
15:27.09BadgermasterAnd that's why you don't use it?
15:27.22valanthat and it just feels strange to me
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15:27.41JomyootIn terms of packages, would ubuntu or debian has richer set for development and servers?
15:28.14valani would say debian to every question you asked that had debian or ubuntu as choices
15:28.33valannobody should have to bear ubuntu
15:28.51Jomyootvalan: why the bias?
15:28.57Jomyootwell my needs are very specific.
15:29.02JomyootI been jumping distros.
15:29.14Jomyootcoming from freebsd. which i really like, but is not available on Amazon EC2
15:29.19valani've never seen anything good of any ubuntu install
15:29.23BadgermasterJomyoot: beOS, I'd go with beOS
15:29.25JomyootI need rich packages for mysql, rails, ffmpeg, imagemagick
15:29.43valandebian stable tend to be pretty solid
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15:29.52valanwith loads and loads of packages
15:29.54craigevilJomyoot:  try running the same ubuntu install for 5 yrs without having maor issues :)
15:29.56azeemJomyoot: what do you mean with "rich"?
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15:30.14valan5 year ubuntu install with no major issues?
15:30.17Jomyootfor example, ffmpeg can be installed with all kinds of options
15:30.17valani can't believe that
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15:30.32azeemvalan: please keep it on topic
15:30.32Jomyooti would love to have ffmpeg include all the options that I need (h264 and all that)
15:30.47craigevilvalan:  thats what I meant, my Debian install is over 5 yrs old, running sid with daily apt-get dist-upgrade
15:30.52BadgermasterI have a computer with win me which hasn't had any problems the last 5 years
15:30.54Jomyootin freebsd, i can choose during make install time
15:31.21valaneh i'm confused, you said ubuntu and now you say debian
15:31.25BadgermasterOf course, it hasn't been turned on the last 5 years either
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15:31.45Jomyootubuntu has the -server stuff now
15:32.02craigevilJomyoot:  install ffmpeg from debian-multimedia.org
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15:33.06Jomyootcraigevil: very helpful !
15:33.10Jomyootis there similar for mysql?
15:33.17Jomyootu know mysql has many 3rd party patches as well
15:33.22Jomyootpercona, google and all that
15:33.26Jomyootwould hate to mix-match myself
15:33.28luckylucy2i tried ubuntu 2 yrs ago, hated it, so i went back to windows.  then got the itch to try again, installed debian, never went back.  windows server2003 disks collecting dust.
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15:34.34abrotmanpoints out that there is #ubuntu if you'd like to discuss Ubuntu
15:35.01fxinyfrom a user point of view there are no questions : given all the debian based distro around just today , in 20 or so years debian will certainly be "one of the shoulders of the giants , IT is standing on" . i have  no doubt
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15:36.21valanlinux distros and who's on top changes so much i can't predict what it'll be like 5 years from now, let alone 20
15:36.23HaWeRhey.. i had a little problem. I added my own script to the init.d and it works.. but.. the problem, is that the scripts works on the screen, and dont let the system startup completely, just my script is working and a few services more.. how i can delete this script ? i cant get into the console (anyone, pressing ctrl+alt+f2 empty screen) or ssh (openssh daemon didnt started..)
15:36.30Jomyootcraigevil: anything similar for mysql?
15:36.31valanthere was a time when some people thought debian wouldn't last much longer
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15:36.34mrbob009!samba
15:36.34dpkgSamba is a UNIX implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol).  Documentation resources: http://samba.org/samba/docs/ ("Using Samba, 3rd Edition" not yet available online), http://wiki.samba.org/  Backported Samba 3.3.4 packages for Lenny are available, ask me about <backports.org>.  http://samba.org/samba/docs/FAQ/  http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Category:Category_FAQ  http://samba.org/  #samba on irc.freenode.net.
15:36.41Jomyootcraigevil: btw. demian-multimedia is unofficial rgiht?
15:36.50craigevilJomyoot:  ive never ran any kind of a server
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15:37.15mrbob009i installed debian with 'file server' but 'samba' doesnt seem to be running...
15:37.17craigevilJomyoot:  yes dmm is not an "officla" debian repo
15:37.29\amethystHaWeR:  boot into single-user mode (or did you put your script in rcS.d ?)
15:37.30Jomyootis there a list of unofficial repo?
15:37.33mrbob009i get > Samba daemons: nmbd./samba: line 63: start-stop-daemon: command not found
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15:37.36Jomyootunofficial rep. with good reputation
15:37.42azeemJomyoot: no
15:37.49mrbob009although, i can \\computername and it does respond with a password box
15:37.56nubieNChello folks,   having some trouble installing lenny 5.01
15:37.56mrbob009where should i continue? :S
15:38.18Jomyootwhat is apt-build ? is this like gentoo?
15:38.19Jomyootomg
15:38.22Jomyooti just googled it
15:38.33HaWeR\amethyst: let me try. I really dont know.. i used update-rc.d scriptname defaults
15:38.36valanmrbob009 are you running it as root?
15:38.38HaWeRim booting now,
15:38.43\amethystHaWeR:  then single-user mode should work
15:38.49HaWeRthanks :)
15:39.07nubieNCThe graghical installer installed the system with gnome but I did not install grub because I have GAG boot manager on the MBR. Now after the install I see that my lenny system is not bootable. I guess I have to get grub installed on the ext3 partion so the system will boot. How do I do this?
15:39.07Jomyootanyone uses apt-build?
15:39.14azeem!anyone
15:39.14dpkgPlease do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'.  Instead, ask your real question.  (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.)  See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
15:39.20fxinyvalan: is not about debian being alive in 20 years , is about the contribution and the "stimulus" debian gives , is a digiatal  "Dwarfs standing on the shoulders of giants" , ubu will always be a dwarf
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15:39.35mrbob009valan: lol, k thhx ;D
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15:40.12Jomyootnow
15:40.13valaneh sorry fxiny but i can see this discussion getting too philosiphical for me, i'm not in the mood for that kind of thing!
15:40.19valandid i spell that right btw?
15:40.28Jomyootseriuosly. how can debian exists without commercial support that others get?
15:40.39azeemJomyoot: there's commercial support
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15:40.52Jomyootbut not big bucks like others guys get
15:41.04azeemJomyoot: ask a wall street manager
15:41.20azeemwe're not really interested in this question
15:41.21valanoften times community support is just as good as commercial support
15:41.36Jomyootanyway. is squeeze stable enough for server production?
15:41.39valandebian's got a very good community
15:41.54abrotmanJomyoot: even if someone gave you that answer, it could change tomorrow
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15:42.09fxinyvalan: :)
15:42.15valani won't put anything other debian version other than the current -stable on a production server, but that's just me
15:42.32zxdhow do you say the third   in primary , secondary ...
15:42.40abrotmantertiary ?
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15:43.01azeemJomyoot: no
15:44.16Jomyootdoes apt-build really make things faster?
15:44.17HaWeR\amethyst: thanks, i deleted from start and works perfectly, now i have to figure how to make my script runs on second level..
15:44.22azeemJomyoot: probably not
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15:44.32\amethystHaWeR:  it sounds like there's a bug with your script
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15:44.44\amethystHaWeR:  the script has to terminate, otherwise init will hang
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15:44.51HaWeR\amethyst: im sure, its mine.. :D
15:44.55becks`hi, on my rootserver I run vpnc to connect to my company; now i installed pptpd to connect from my notebook (notebook --pptp--> rootserver --ciscovpn--> company) - enabling ip routing doesn't help, how can i make my rootserver to act "as a proxy"?
15:45.15HaWeR\amethyst: well, its supossed to be a daemon.. checking conectivity with the router
15:45.30\amethystHaWeR:  does the daemon your script launches auto-background itself?
15:45.43nubieNCany thoughts on my problem?
15:46.17HaWeR\amethyst: i think no. Its the first day i wrote scripts.. so im a very big newbie on this
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15:48.19\amethystHaWeR:  find an existing init.d script that uses start-stop-daemon with the --background option, and try using that
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15:48.21HaWeRbut.. now it does :)
15:48.31HaWeR\amethyst: yeah, i've just found it.. thanks :)
15:50.16azeemnubieNC: you probably need to boot a liveCD or so and install grub from there
15:50.30azeemnubieNC: or reinstall, if you think that is easier
15:52.02nubieNCIf I was more familiar with the rescue mode commands I could probably do it with that
15:52.26BadgermasterOr you could boot up a normal debian cd, choose expert install and just do the boot loader steps
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15:53.22nubieNCI tried that. but will try again...........
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15:54.38zulle_5einer deutsch kan
15:54.46nubieNClet all the boot loader components load? and go from there ignoring eveything but the grub install?
15:54.52zulle_5#pennergame.lotto
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15:56.54nubieNCI will try again and see how it goes.
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16:15.29zophyisn't there a mencoder for lenny ?
16:16.24gorpZophy, perhaps you should look for the debian-multimedia repo
16:17.58mrbob009brothers, ive installed debian - now there's one windows machine i would like to give access to it
16:18.04mrbob009via samba \\networkshare
16:18.25mrbob009what should i do? > i did install debian as a file-server (+ db server)
16:19.57gorpmrbob009, just install samba, you then could share your files with your windows
16:20.00mrbob009so i got samba on it...
16:20.18mrbob009gorp: when i try to \\192.168.1.140 .. i get a password prompt
16:20.20gorpmrbob009, what are you expecting exactly ?
16:20.25mrbob009but nor my account, nor root can login
16:20.34gorpmrbob009, this is normal
16:20.50mrbob009gorp: i would like to be able to login with a useraccount and end up in the ~ for that user
16:20.56gorpby default its share home dirs.
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16:21.05ananthgshi all.....
16:21.11ananthgswhat is the latest book on debian?
16:21.13gorpmrbob009, first do an smbpasswd user as root
16:21.29ananthgsthe book - debian system and concepts... it that the last one?
16:21.35gorpto set a samba passwd for the user
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16:21.54gorpthe last book is under /usr/share/man ananthgs
16:22.03ananthgsha ha
16:22.06ananthgsgood one gorp
16:23.00valananyone know any debian specific certification off the top of the head?
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16:24.26zophyvalan, that's funny, but there might be something like that
16:24.26mrbob009gorp: done > still cant login :S
16:25.10gorpmrbob009, i probably forget the '-a', smbpasswd -a 'user'
16:25.39valanonly ask because i can get near any cert for free
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16:26.08gorpmrbob009, there is also the /etc/smb.conf file to look for
16:27.20zxdvalan, lol
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16:27.37mrbob009gorp: after using -a it now works!
16:27.41zxdactually blah
16:27.48mrbob009i can now login to my profile......
16:28.53gorpmrbob009, nice .... have fun with samba ...
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16:30.09mrbob009gorp: no write access, but it works.. :)
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16:30.15mrbob009thanks
16:31.18gorpmrbob009, you need to edit your /etc/smb.conf file, and put readonly=no
16:33.12gorpmrbob009, /etc/samba/smb.conf, and the "read only = no" under the [users] share. and /etc/init.d/samba restart
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16:36.16cruiqHello, why on certain chat webpages I can't write especial caracters like ß ü ö ä or ñ?
16:36.48cruiqI found this problem in lenny and also in knoppix 6.0
16:37.16cruiqth web page is "www.curso-de-aleman.de"
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16:40.13mrbob009gorp: _O_ thanks a lot man
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16:46.22rmacdQuestion: I've got a mounted, running /home partition. For security reasons, I wish no make it noexec.
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16:46.35rmacd(That wasn't a question ...)
16:46.52rmacd...but the question is, how would I go about doing this without having to reboot the system?
16:47.41simeonhi all, I uninstalled something that gnome and Xorg depended on and now dist-upgrade wants to uninstall a bunch of critical stuff, how do I figure out what I did to break it?
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16:50.09rmacdoh! got it... same as just I would with the /tmp: mount -o remount,noexec /home
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16:57.42mondrilloI'm trying to install lenny from netinstall mini-cd
16:58.07mondrillomy machine hangs ( freeze ) after a netdetect
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16:58.46mondrilloI've 3 net devices eth0,wifi, and firework
16:59.36mondrilloit's hangs assign ip to wifi but I have to make the installation on the eth0
16:59.56mondrilloThere is an kernel option to bypass wireless detecttion ?
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17:03.12Arv3nhi.
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17:03.51Arv3nmy cd drive isn't recognized in debian lenny, but it seems the compter/nforce 430 chipset is supposed to work fine.
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17:04.15Arv3nso i tried a boot.iso install, and it worked until after booting up. it froze on "mounting hard disk" or something like that
17:04.20vsysclosethemill: it's ok, i've reinstalled some good library
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17:04.27Arv3nanyone have any clue as to what could be wrong?
17:04.44Arv3nthis also affects other distros that use a lenny-based kernel
17:05.19vsysclosesomeone knows the name for installing package help containing function description of section 3(ake man) ?
17:05.23vsyscloseaka*
17:05.36Arv3nanyone?
17:05.47Arv3nsome guy told me the kernel didn't have any drivers for my device.
17:05.55rmacdmondrillo : next time you try startup, just do a crtl+c next time netdetect shows up on the screen. Installation will then bypass netdetect
17:06.03Arv3nbut i don't see why that would happen -- its a common nforce 430 chipset
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17:06.17teilzeitstudentArv3n, yea probably... try to find out the module name (= driver name) for your chipset
17:06.39Arv3nteilzeitstudent it's
17:06.41vsyscloseArv3n: look at your logs to see details on the problem.
17:06.42Arv3nuhh
17:06.49Arv3nvsysclose, i tried it doesn't really show anything.
17:07.01Arv3nlet me try and remember the module name.
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17:07.46Arv3nits sata_nv, and yes it DOES get loaded.
17:07.57vsyscloseyou use an atypical filesystem ?
17:08.03Arv3n?
17:08.08Arv3ni just chose the default partitioning
17:08.23Arv3ni can't even get that far.
17:08.30Arv3nit fails to detect my cd drive. :P
17:08.38teilzeitstudentand filesystem type? ext3? ah.. hrm :P
17:08.56rmacdalt+f7 should show you installation-time kernel messages, is there anything there?
17:09.01Arv3nno.
17:09.10Arv3nit just says it loaded the module, and found the hard drives etc etc..
17:09.14vsyscloseArv3n: boot should not be interupted even with cd drive not recognized
17:09.17Arv3nthere is also no /dev/scd0 device.
17:09.30Arv3nit boots fine, are you guys familiar with the installation process?
17:09.35Arv3nbefore partitioning it tries to find your cd device.
17:09.56rmacdArv3n : yes, to find installation media.
17:10.02Arv3nthats why i tried the 8mb boot.iso
17:10.13Arv3nit worked until i rebooted.. then it froze on mounting root device or something like that.
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17:10.30Arv3ni DID get an error that time though.
17:10.32meloniHow can I check if three backups are written to tape? I want to erase a tape after three backups are made and then start from the beginning.
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17:10.44zigovrhi all, how can I upgrade a package and all its dependencies ?
17:10.44Arv3nwhen i tried to boot up.
17:10.58teilzeitstudentArv3n, well.. you could try the netboot stuff. that requires no CD, but a properly setup tftp server :P
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17:11.14zigovraptitude install <package> only upgrade the package but not its dependencies if it can avoid it, I'd like to upgrade them forcibly if there are update
17:11.16Arv3nteilzeitstudent- then it still doesn't boot. :>
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17:11.30rmacdArv3n : doesn't sound quite right. The netinst packagace, afaik the smallest installation media, is about 180MB
17:11.44teilzeitstudentArv3n, the 8mb thingy.. did it actually install anything? :P
17:11.45Arv3nrmacd, some guy told me to dig in the debian mirrors
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17:11.58Arv3ni did and found the 8mb iso that downloads _everything_
17:12.19adburl ?
17:12.20teilzeitstudentwhats the filename?
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17:12.21Arv3nteilzeitstudent yes it installed fine it just didn't boot up afterwards (i.e., it got past the kernel initializing, but then it got to mounting the root file system and it didn't work)
17:12.22rmacdArv3n : there's two main 'minimum' images - there's the businesscard (40MB) and the netinst (180MB)
17:12.40Arv3nyes i know but there is also some type of small boot iso
17:12.49Arv3nits about 8-10mb -- anyway, that's not the problem.
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17:13.09vsyscloseok i found, it was manpages-dev
17:13.26vsysclosegood day.
17:13.31rmacdArv3n : yes, it might very well *be* the problem... since at 8MB it probably doesn't include the sata drivers
17:13.53Arv3nrmacd, no.
17:14.02Arv3nthe big iso.. THOSE do NOT work.
17:14.08Arv3nthe net card and minimal iso, both those do not work
17:14.13Arv3nthe boot.iso works until i reboot.
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17:14.42teilzeitstudentArv3n, as a last resort you could try to check your bios for a legacy/compatiblity mode for your drives. not really the best way, but maybe that gets you a running system and you can go on from there
17:14.48Arv3ni don't.
17:14.50Arv3n:)
17:14.56Arv3nyes, i've been working on this for months.
17:15.44Arv3ni've also flashed the bios, and updated the firmware on the optical drive.
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17:16.29teilzeitstudentArv3n, so to sum up: when installing using ISOs, your cd drive is not found, when using the netboot stuff your root partition is not found?
17:16.39Arv3nexactly.
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17:17.30Arv3ni would file a bug report, but two things: 1) debian's bug reporting sucks, and 2) i filed a bug report for elive and parsix and nobody responded.
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17:17.58Arv3nit seems like nobody wants to help, and im the _ONLY_ one with the problem. the _ONLY_ one. and that makes it incredibly frustrating.
17:18.08teilzeitstudentxD
17:18.20Arv3ni've searched google.
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17:18.29Arv3nthe closest thing i could find was somebody submitted a shitty patch for the kernel.
17:18.34daafwhat's the nvidia oneliner?
17:18.35teilzeitstudentI guess you have tried live versions? And they do not recognize your CD either?
17:18.51Arv3nteilzeitstudent that is correct. both elive and parsix give me "squashfs not found" or something similar.
17:18.53Arv3ndaaf, what?
17:19.00simonrvnArv3n: don't blame the bts for people's inattention
17:19.04daafnvidia one liner
17:19.12Arv3nwhat's that?
17:19.12daafwhen i start x it says nvidia module does not exist
17:19.15Arv3noh.
17:19.19simonrvnit's an inanimate thing...
17:19.38simonrvndaaf: /msg dpkg nvidia oneliner
17:19.41teilzeitstudentArv3n, those are debian'ish linuxes?
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17:19.58Arv3nteilzeitstudent, yes, both actually have debian lenny-based kernels.
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17:20.24teilzeitstudentArv3n, tried non-debian linux versions?
17:20.29Arv3nyes, they work fine.
17:20.41Arv3ni'd also like to point out that sidux uses vanilla-based kernels and it also works fine.
17:20.44dob1hi, there is some way to install xtables-addons on lenny ? the problem is the iptables version
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17:21.02Arv3netch gives me problem and so do the updated d-i images
17:21.16craigevilArv3n:  slh patches the hell out of the sidux kernels
17:21.28Arv3nand it's also based on the vanilla sources.
17:21.55daafthanks
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17:22.14mondrillois there any option to tell leny installer disable wifi something hw-detect/disable_wmaster0 ¿?
17:22.58mondrilloor hw-detect/disable_wlan0 ?
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17:25.43mrbob009is there a package i can install > to get all > make /gcc stuff
17:25.46mrbob009build-essentials?
17:25.57BadgermasterYeah
17:26.12BadgermasterAnd you need the kernel headers
17:26.18mrbob009sure :) :D
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17:26.45BadgermasterIf you use module-assistant you'll get the neccessary headers
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17:27.46mrbob009is that the right package to install to get just the kernel headers? :S
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17:28.50BadgermasterIf you've got module assistant you can use the commands m-a update and then m-a prepare
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17:29.00BadgermasterThen it'll ask you if you want to install the packages
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17:44.14HajuuHey guys, can anyone help me with a small problem with my chroot?
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17:47.07gngkaihi
17:47.19gngkaiI heard that xen packages for lenny are buggy
17:47.27gngkaisomeone can confirm?
17:48.07gngkaisince they're based on some early novell/opensuse snapshot
17:48.12craigevilElmoe: if by break you mean they want to be removed in todays dist-upgrade it seems that way, wait a day or so and try to update again
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17:49.36jaggzhow can I detect the fs type of a usb drive?  It's an mp3 player someone gave me but the partition table isn't recognized and I'm wondering if it's possible it's a fs on the main device, if such a thing is possible (/dev/sdc)
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17:49.54pipelinejaggz: mount it and see what happens
17:50.00pipelinejaggz: however, it's very unusual not to have a disklabel.
17:50.18Badgermasterjaggz: Is it a creative zen?
17:50.33pipelinejaggz: did you build your own kernel ? it's possible it's a macintosh or BSD disklabel rather than DOS, and you omitted non-DOS disklabel support from your custom kernel
17:50.33Alam_Lennyfile -s /dev/sd?#
17:50.34nvzI am booting from a debian 5.0 netinst cd with dmraid=true and it doesn't detect the disk and says raid45 not in kernel on the syslog
17:50.54jaggzyeah, file just sees it as a block special..
17:51.05jaggzBadger, it's a chinese lookalike type thing
17:51.07BadgermasterIf it's a creative zen mp3-player then it uses MTP, and you'll have to get mtp-tools or install gnomad2
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17:51.39Alam_Lennyjaggz, you did used optiion -s, right?
17:51.43jaggzmount doesn't recognize it.  I recall it mounting in the past, that's what I'm wondering about -- but it only worked on one of these computers, and the other it did .. what it's doing now.
17:51.53jaggzno.. looking at it
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17:52.03simonrvnfile -sk  is pretty useful too
17:52.08jaggzsays.. "data"
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17:52.46nvznm, found it on the bts
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17:53.00jaggzit's a weird device.. it comes up as two devices -- a cdrom and this filesystem thing .. which has been inconsistent in its accessibility
17:53.00nvz!dbugs 411172
17:53.04dpkg#411172:I[dmraid] dmraid is looking for the raid45 kernel module and not the raid456 modules. (); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:45:02 UTC []
17:53.08nvzduh
17:53.20ajavidcan anyone build fglrx on stable
17:53.37ajavidI tried on .29, no dice, someone here said they tried on .26 lenny kernel, still no dice
17:53.40jaggzand it says unknown partition table
17:53.53ajaviddo they let in packages in stable that dont' work?
17:54.11ajavidfglrx on amd64 stable will not build on .26 or custom .29
17:54.15jaggzhexedit shows it's all 00's for a long time
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17:55.04Badgermasterajavid: I've got x running fine on my custom built fglrx-driver
17:55.08jaggzthen I see my mp3's.. 06-QUE~1MP3    so they're in vfat format I believe, right?
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17:55.22BadgermasterAnd I don't think I've upgraded to lenny on that computer yet
17:55.33ajavidyeh i mean in lenny specifically amd64
17:55.37jaggzhey, I wonder if I somehow pass the device to virtualbox if windows could take it..
17:55.45nvzI swear I just made this cd like 2 weeks ago
17:56.07nvzI don't see why this ancient seemingly fixed bug is applying to me
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17:59.23ajavidnvz, life sucks
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18:00.57fas3rmy gateway crash , i have reboot it, where i can find in log what the problem.. i mean i saw error message before reboot it and just want fin the error in syslog
18:01.43fas3ri look in /var/log/syslog, with dmesg but i don't find it
18:02.06nvzajavid: idk about that, but I got a raid that seems to be riddled with bug reports
18:02.13nvzpain in my ass
18:02.40nvznot sure wtf to do about it
18:03.05nvzbut a cheeseburger sounds good
18:04.27nvzI guess the only thing I can do is make an unofficial install cd later and hope that works
18:04.39nvzand of course go get a cheeseburger
18:04.46nvzcause stupid shit like this makes me hungry
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18:05.53nvzat least now I know what the problem is.. I'm one step closer
18:06.32nvzI think I need to get a fan for this mobo chipset
18:06.45nvzf'n nvidia boost garbage
18:07.05Hajuuhey guys im running xwd on a display but it just seems to hang forever
18:07.08simonrvnfas3r: why are you using dmesg to look in syslog? use grep if you remember what it said.
18:07.10Hajuulike doesnt lock or anything
18:07.12nvzits getting fairly hot to the touch.. last thing I need is that f'n easy bake oven in a web server
18:07.14Hajuujust looks like it sits there
18:07.30nvzI should just keep this board and order him another one
18:07.43nvzthis is the 2nd f'n board I thought had video on it and didnt
18:07.51fas3rsimonrvn: yes yes
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18:08.39nvzI now know I have to see VGAx1 on the f'n ports can't just rely on it having a video processor anymore.. heh
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18:10.07nvzthat shit just blows me away.. I'm only gonna be 26 this year and I feel f'n old now
18:10.32nvzfor the last 20 years a video chipset meant video output
18:10.47simonrvnwait another 10, then you'll feel it ;)
18:10.51nvzhah
18:11.06nvzI gotta get a magazine subscription or something
18:11.15nvzI used to read wired, pop sci..etc
18:11.18simonrvnyour joints will start aching from humid/wet weather
18:11.21nvznow I'm f'n behind the times
18:11.30nvzna my joints been doing that for years
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18:11.45nvzI screamed the last three days when I woke up cause it was raining
18:12.04simonrvnhere's the latest, mousavi won, riots etc. in iran, and protests continue in peru. there, you're up to date
18:12.24nvzhah.. I don't even pay any attention to that shit
18:12.31nvzI'm talking about technology
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18:12.53nvzI only pay attention to politics, weather and world news as it applies to technology
18:13.12nvzif a typhoon hits taiwan then I'm interested
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18:13.19nvzits gonna effect ram prices.. heh
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18:14.44nvzI've had all the parts for this server since friday afternoon, its been built since saturday afternoon, here it is sunday afternoon and I still dont have the OS installed..
18:14.47nvzugh
18:15.12nvznow would be a good time to put my cd burner for this laptop back together
18:15.22simonrvn:(
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18:15.27nvzI spilled cola on it and took it apart to clean it and never put it back together
18:15.41nvzand my friend is at work and his shit is locked up or I'd burn it on his
18:15.46dondelelcaronvz: your server should boot off of usb?
18:15.54nvzprobably
18:16.05nvzreally I guess all I need is the new dmraid thing
18:16.08dvsnvz: Spilt over the DVD burner?
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18:16.39nvzthats the problem here, the lenny amd64 I burnt to install his box a couple weeks ago has an issue with the nvidia raid
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18:17.04nvzI either need the unofficial netinstall for amd64 or I need the shit on that box to make it work somehow
18:17.13nvzI'm kinda cluster fucked either way
18:17.28Elmoecraigevil: yeah I just rolled them back, thanks for confirming
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18:18.02nvzI sold my 8gb f'n thumbdrive to the guy I'm selling this server to.. he
18:18.12nvztalk about selling my car for a gallon of gas
18:18.45Hajuuso nobody ever used xwd?
18:18.52craigevilElmoe:  a good place to track upgrade issues with Sid is the sidux forum
18:19.13nvzI gotta quit getting rid of shit I'd need
18:19.28nvzI figure I go months without using something its for sale
18:20.06Hajuuas long as you get a decent price for it ;)
18:20.23dvsnvz: It's not like a USB drive is super expensive though.
18:20.48nvzyeah well untill this rma sorts out or I do more work, I got about enough to go get that cheeseburger I've been talking about
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18:21.15Hajuuhaha weak
18:21.23nvzThis company f'n sent me a Q8200 Core 2 Quad wrapped up in bubble wrap and it didn't work
18:21.26Hajuuwork as a freelance web developer/designer
18:21.39Elmoecraigevil: oh haven't heard of this before, url?
18:21.48dvshas a Q8200 as well.
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18:22.04nvzI switched to the Phenom, and got it from somewhere else and it came in a stadard box with authenticity certificate and shit
18:22.19nvzI think its highly tacky to sell a $200+ cpu without that
18:22.27craigevilElmoe: sidux.com its distro based on debian sid so they tend to see the issues before you see people asking about them here
18:22.32nvzand I will not ever buy one from a company who does that again
18:22.55Elmoecraigevil: cool thanks
18:23.00nvzlooks like they took the f'n thing out of a system, wiped the thermal paste off and wrapped it in bubble wrap
18:23.08craigevilElmoe:  there is a forum there just for upgrade issues
18:23.35nvzso I'm waiting for the $184 and some change back on that thing
18:23.50nvzand this server to get finished so I can make some more money
18:24.49nvzall I gotta do is install the os and apache, deliver it, setup the static IP and domain name, then its a wrap.. on to web development, marketing, taking over the world..
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18:25.41nvzI'll have it done by tomorrow afternoon either way, but I just dont have the shit to do it right this minute
18:25.42Elmoecraigevil: yep there it is, first post
18:25.48Elmoecraigevil: will wtch this in the future thanks
18:26.15nvzputs on his shoes and heads to McDonalds.. it's officially lunch time
18:26.30nvzseems like if shit didn't go wrong I'd never remember to eat
18:26.51nvzhere it is 2:30pm and I havent ate all day
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18:28.52htmlolso I was screwing around with xxkb using kcontrol, and I got my menu key to act as compose. unforunately, when I messed around with caps lock, now the ligh Æ comes from Medieval Latin, where it was an optional ligature in some words, for example, "Æneas". It is still found as a variant in English and French, but the trend has recently been towards printing the A and E separately.[5] Similarly, Œ and œ, while normally printed as ligatures i
18:29.11htmlolerm excuse that
18:29.21cahootquite informative
18:29.26htmlolso I was screwing around with xxkb using kcontrol, and I got my menu key to act as compose. unforunately, when I messed around with caps lock, now the light doesn't come on when I hit it.
18:29.32htmlolthere we go.
18:30.04htmlolso how can I get my caps lock light back on? :3
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18:30.50xinguhtmlol: xset led ?
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18:31.30htmloldid nothing.
18:31.48htmlolit still works with the num lock light, but the caps lock light just doesn't want to go on.
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18:34.05htmlolin fact, I can't get caps lock back to its normal function at all, even if I hit "disable xxkb options" in kcontrol
18:34.15jelly-homelikes kxkb
18:34.24sam_I  have a creative-XFI fatality sound blaster i have the sound working on desktop and I can hear all beeps in the sound testing page. But no sound on you-tube or any other website and my games don't work with sound on wine please anyone?
18:34.44jelly-homehtmlol: how do you actually make xxkb do anything?
18:34.48dvshtmlol: are you sure the caps lock light still works at all?
18:35.07cahootsam_: see if modprobe snd-pcm-oss does any good
18:35.19sam_okay?
18:35.40sam_no error just returns
18:35.49htmloldvs: fairly sure. it would be an incredible conincidence if it stopped working exactly after I changed its function, eh?
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18:36.04dvsyup
18:36.11htmloljelly-home: I go into kcontrol>regional>keyboard layout
18:36.20dvssam_: now try the sounds
18:36.20sam_still no sound i dont understand it :/
18:36.28jelly-homehtmlol: oh.  that's not "xxkb", then.
18:36.47htmloljelly-home: and to xkb options
18:36.47htmlolyeah, I added an extra x there. sorry.
18:37.13jelly-homethen you're using the same thing as me, only I'm using it separately from kde
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18:38.04htmlolso can you help get my caps lock light working? :3
18:38.11jelly-homehtmlol: are _any_ of the settings under advanced tab enabled? what does the current "command" look like?
18:38.17jelly-homehtmlol: no idea.
18:39.13htmlolkcontrol gives me a long list of options with checkboxes. I've unchecked all the ones relevant to the caps lock key, and I've even disabled the whole thing altogether, but still the options persist
18:39.47jelly-homehtmlol: click "reset old options"; disable everything in there; apply
18:40.28jelly-homehtmlol: not just the CapsLock ones; everything
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18:40.35htmlolnope. it's still acting as if I hadn't disabled it
18:40.45htmlolI even disabled the compose thing, but the compose key is still working
18:40.55jelly-homehtmlol: paste the resulting setxkbmap command
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18:41.55htmlolwhat do you mean? I never typed setxkbmap anywhere
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18:42.01jelly-homeoh wait, I'm using the Qt4 / KDE4 version
18:42.15jelly-homewell.
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18:42.49HajuuHey my Xvfb keeps segfaulting after any application running on the display exits... is there a way to prevent this?
18:42.59htmlol...?
18:43.08dondelelcaroHajuu: figure out why it's segfaulting and fix it
18:43.17jelly-homehtmlol: does anything change if you run "setxkbmap -option" ?
18:43.19Hajuumeh like I load xterm on the display
18:43.24Hajuuand when xterm quits unexpectedly
18:43.30Hajuulike, I close the terminal
18:43.41Hajuuit segfaults the virtual display server
18:43.56Hajuuwhich means I need to restart it for every request
18:44.03htmlollet's see...
18:44.13Hajuuor run one virtual file buffer per request
18:44.20zigovrhi all, I'd like to try to debug my initramfs, is there a way to launch an interactive shell from within the initramfs
18:44.41htmlolnope
18:44.46htmloldoesn't change a thing
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18:52.11zigovrnkuttler: no it can do more than that
18:52.32zigovrlike setting up crypto volumes
18:53.24RienzillaHey guys. I have a strange problem on a debian lenny machine using ldap as an authentication backend. Connectovity with the ldap server (also a debinan machine with slapd) seems fine. However when I try to change a user's password with passwd, passwd says that the user is unkown, and in auth.log it tells me it cannot reach the ldap server (pam_ldap: ldap_simple_bind Can't contact LDAP server). According to the sevrer log, the machine in question binds,
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18:59.46linduxedregarding evolution: im using a very dark theme for gnome, so the text is defaulting to white. when i get an email in evolution that's html based and it has a white background, i get white text on white background. Is there a way to force evolution html backgrounds? or text colour? or maybe force it to display it all as text?
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19:04.29steffanHow do you install PHP and execute a .php file on Debian? (It's a .php bot)
19:05.00nkuttlersteffan: php5-cli should do
19:05.15steffannkuttler: Just that package?
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19:06.10nkuttlersteffan: your package manager will pull the needed dependencies
19:06.50steffannkuttler: Ah okay. Then you can use 'php Bot.php'?
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19:07.03nkuttleryeah
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19:08.00nkuttlernotices that 5% root-reserved space is a little excessive on 1TB
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19:08.06cobra-the-jokerhey there guys ...... i heard that acrobat reader is present for linux systems
19:08.14nkuttlercobra-the-joker: true
19:08.30ilyakBut kpdf is way better
19:08.40ilyakExcept for forms
19:08.45Zharfevince is better
19:08.46Zharf:)
19:08.47nkuttlerxpdf is the best
19:08.48cobra-the-jokernkuttler ... i cant find it in debian repos
19:08.54valdyn!dmm
19:08.54dpkg[dmm] Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat.  For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>.
19:08.58valdyncobra-the-joker: ^^ there
19:09.00ilyakxpdf is old and squeaky
19:09.14cobra-the-jokerok
19:09.22\amethystI see that no one suggested gv :)
19:09.25martian67lol xpdf
19:09.54valdynjudd: versions acroread
19:09.55juddvaldyn: acroread -- etch-multimedia: 8.1.3-0.0 lenny-multimedia: 8.1.5-0.0 sid-multimedia: 9.1.1-0.0 squeeze-multimedia: 9.1.1-0.0
19:09.56martian67using pdf for forms and adding javascript and 100 other things
19:09.58martian67is retarded as hell
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19:11.00caraconanHi. Can someone that can send docs from the movile to the pc via bluetooth paste me his config? Thanks
19:11.03jelly-homeit's also a nice way to send someone a form to fill without having them go online
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19:11.46martian67jelly, how exactly are they going to send it to you?
19:11.57cobra-the-jokerdoes i486 software runs on 32-bit ???
19:12.14martian67or get it from you
19:12.14valdyn!i486
19:12.16dvscobra-the-joker: I hope so
19:12.16valdynoo
19:12.17martian67for that matter
19:12.31nkuttler386s were 16 bit, weren't they?
19:12.35nkuttlererr, 32
19:12.35martian67no
19:12.39\amethystnkuttler:  32
19:12.43dvsnkuttler: could be eihter
19:12.46martian67they were hybrid 32/16 bit
19:12.54jelly-homemartian67: email. usb stick. business card cd.
19:12.58nkuttlerdidn't use a pc back then
19:13.03martian67so is every x86 processor
19:13.09martian67including the ones being produced today
19:13.19martian67adding in 64 bit
19:13.25cobra-the-jokeri downloaded a software for .... its a i486 ...and i have 32
19:13.33martian67jelly, so email isnt online?
19:13.39nkuttlercobra-the-joker: which software?
19:13.41Hajuuim sure someone here can tell me.. If I start an x server (in this case a virtual framebuffer "xvfb") with 10 screens on display :1
19:13.41dvswonders what it would be like running a 16-bit app on a Core i7
19:13.46cobra-the-jokeradobe reader :D
19:13.47Hajuuhow do I reference screen 2 on :1 ?
19:13.53martian67jelly, also those other two are real corner cases
19:14.04\amethystcobra-the-joker:  yes, it will work on all x86 processors from 486 and up
19:14.13nkuttlercobra-the-joker: /msg dpkg dmm
19:14.13mrbob009why is /usr/local/bin not in PATH?
19:14.14\amethystcobra-the-joker:  it won't run on a 32-bit powerpc
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19:14.17martian67not likely to have the situation where that occurs, and they dont go online to submit it anyways
19:14.23nkuttlermrbob009: because you didn't put it in there?
19:14.36HajuuAnyone?
19:14.37dvsnkuttler: I think he means by default
19:14.40cobra-the-jokerits a 32 bit intel
19:14.45\amethystcobra-the-joker:  then yes
19:14.46cobra-the-jokerok
19:14.47nkuttlerbecause.. it would be a bad idea?
19:14.48cobra-the-jokerthanx
19:14.56\amethystmartian67:  are you logging in in a way that avoids /etc/profile?
19:15.05mrbob009forget about my question, its in there
19:15.06martian67\amethyst, um no?
19:15.25martian67oh mistab :)
19:16.10Hajuucmon someone must know how to reference screen 2 on :1
19:16.26rudi_sHi. I'm using iptables. Is there a way to log to a special file? At the moment it logs to syslog.
19:16.42\amethystHajuu:   DISPLAY=:2
19:16.45\amethystHajuu:  oh
19:16.46\amethystHajuu:  screen 2
19:16.49\amethystHajuu:  :1.2
19:16.55Hajuuheh you sure?
19:17.10\amethystHajuu:  yes, assuming you mean separate screens and not e.g. xinerama
19:17.11martian67rudi_s, configure syslog to write to a different file for iptables events?
19:17.22\amethystHajuu:  on :1.1 depending on what you mean by 'screen 2'
19:17.28\amethystHajuu:  since they count from 0
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19:17.46Hajuuso is doing :1 the same as screen 1?
19:17.47rudi_smartian67: How can I do this? I though iptables logged to "section" kernel.
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19:17.56martian67no
19:18.07martian67you configure syslog using syslog.conf
19:18.13martian67in /etc/
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19:19.06\amethystHajuu:  :1 is display 1... I believe if you use plain :1 it means screen 0, but it might mean the current screen
19:19.37Hajuuah thats what I was wondering
19:19.42rudi_sa_s_1: Thanks, but that would log all warning messages to iptables.log. Not really what I want.
19:19.42Hajuuif screens started at 0 or 1
19:19.43Hajuu:D
19:20.00rudi_smartian67: I know, but I don't know how to separate iptables logs from other syslogs.
19:20.00HajuuImpossible..
19:20.15martian67rudi_s, then learn about configuring syslog
19:20.30martian67look at the configuration file for examples
19:20.33Hajuuah thats brutal
19:20.38Hajuuthanks for your help
19:23.19rudi_smartian67: I think I know that, but iptables logs to kern.* and I guess other processes log there too. I don't know how to separate them.
19:23.19HajuuImpossible..
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19:25.22fxinyulogd can
19:25.23HajuuHow do I get/define my current terminal window ID?
19:25.35Hajuuor how can I define it when starting a new xterm
19:25.44Hajuui just tried xterm -title 19
19:26.05Hajuubut when I tried to import -window 19 it didnt work
19:26.25HajuuI tried xterm -ti 19 too (terminal id)
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19:27.23rudi_sfxiny: Thanks. I will have a look. But I would really like to use syslog for it. If anybody has an idea please tell me.
19:28.24fxinyrudi_s: np
19:29.02fxinymaybe syslog-ng ? , not sure
19:29.32rudi_sfxiny: Thanks, will check it.
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19:30.48fxinyrudi_s: i have upgraded etch syslog to lenny rsyslog , but i did not have time to look into it
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19:31.19DexterFhi
19:31.48DexterFhow do I compile a 32bit xine on 64bit lenny with w32codec support?
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19:32.03rudi_sfxiny: I'm using rsyslog too (lenny), but I don't know a way to separate kern.* messages.
19:32.09rudi_snp, thanks for your help.
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19:33.05fxinyrudi_s: i'm googling , rsyslog is more advanced and it looks possible
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19:34.24rudi_sfxiny: thx
19:34.30fxinyrudi_s: np
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19:37.49DracieHello how do i change the default permissions for the /home/*/ directories?  they are 755 which isn't very safe at all
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19:38.22grotonhttp://nopaste.com/p/aPcBisJwt
19:38.23fefoDracie: umask ?
19:38.32fefoDracie: or chmod -R
19:38.46fefoi really dont understand how do you mean that question
19:38.50fefoso..
19:39.02Dracieno
19:39.04rudi_sDracie: /etc/adduser.conf DIR_MODE
19:39.09Dracieoh ok
19:39.14Draciethanks rudi_s =]
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19:39.27rudi_snp
19:39.27DracieI was wetting my pants since the defaults are nothing like I am used to
19:40.30adb<PROTECTED>
19:40.51Dracieyup that did the trick
19:40.58Dracie0750 permissions win
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19:41.02rudi_s;-)
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19:42.08DracieNow here is a real noob question:  how do i set the number of processes a user can run?
19:42.08avegasif I have a xen server running  etch3, is it crazy to try and add a lenny guest machine following the instructions at http://www.virtuatopia.com/index.php/Building_a_Debian_or_Ubuntu_Xen_Guest_Root_Filesystem_using_debootstrap
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19:42.29avegasbut with some modifications to the /lib/modules and the kernel image?
19:42.35rudi_sDracie: /etc/security/limits.conf
19:42.40sunoanoone can feed his rule set into iptables at startup using /etc/init.d/ or an entry (pre-up) in /etc/network/interfaces ... what's "better"? seems on debian the default is to go with /etc/network/interfaces
19:42.51Draciethx again lol
19:42.56rudi_snp
19:43.25Draciebought a virtualizd webserver and sharing the wealth =]
19:44.48adbwebserver has www-data owner , no ?
19:44.52rudi_sDracie: Be careful and have a look at www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
19:44.56rudi_sadb: Yes.
19:45.54rudi_ssunoano: /etc/network/interfaces is IMHO better, you can use /etc/network/if-up.d/ too of course.
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19:46.09cobra-the-jokeractually evince is better
19:46.09Draciethx for all the informatino
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19:46.43rudi_snp ;-)
19:47.06sunoanorudi_s: I see, why do you think it's better as compared to using /etc/init.d/<script_name>?
19:48.32rudi_ssunoano: I think it's clearer, and there was a /etc/init.d/iptables (comming with iptables) in a previous release which didn't worked so well. But all three possibilities should work fine, I prefer /etc/network.
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19:49.24sunoanoright, it was in sarge but in etch it was gone
19:49.32sunoanoI wonder why?
19:49.45adbDracie:  webserver  data and /home/$User share the same directory ? - my guess
19:50.02rudi_ssunoano: There seemed to be some security problems, but I don't know anything more about it.
19:50.23sunoanothen you know exactly as much as I do ;P
19:50.35rudi_s^^ True ;-)
19:50.45Dracieadb: right now I just have the defaults for lighttpd - its in /var/www/
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19:52.49ikanoboriHey dear lads. I've recently switched my repositories to testing, all great fun, however since I did so all my networking diagnostical tools seem to have stopped working.
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19:52.55ikanoboriExamples: tcpdump, iftop.
19:53.03ikanoboriAnyone got a clue where I could look for this?
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19:53.35Dracieoh poop, how do i set executable permission on only direcotries recursively?
19:54.22patrikfDracie: chmod +X (capital x makes the difference) does something similar, but refer to the manpage
19:54.49Dracieok thanks, I feel enlightened =]
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20:03.38Hajuuhey guys im using imagemagicks import to dump a screenshot of a window
20:03.47Hajuuits working great
20:04.01Hajuubut for some reason it renders a resolution bigger than 1000x1000
20:04.10Draciehmm
20:04.16Hajuuwhen ive configured my x server instance to have 10 screens, 350x350
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20:04.19Dracieyou may like scrot more its up to you
20:05.09\amethystHajuu:  how big is the window?
20:05.39Hajuuwell ive tried doing both xterm -maximized
20:05.55Hajuuand its about 1200 pixels wide
20:06.42HajuuI run to start the server though: -screen 10 350x350x8
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20:09.02Hajuuoh wait
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20:10.16Hajuumeh yeah
20:10.17Hajuu1280px × 1024px
20:10.21Hajuuthats the size of the image output
20:10.44Hajuuand it does actually seem to be that size as far as I can tell cause theres a border that goes right to the edge
20:10.54Hajuuthe window I mean, not the image
20:10.58Hajuujust not sure why
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20:24.44\amethystHas anyone here used Xorg 1.6 with an RV516 video card (Radeon X1300)?  Which of radeon and radeonhd should I use, and what performance could I expect compared to, say, fglrx 8-7 ?
20:24.59\amethyst3d performance, specifically
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20:32.32Hajuuhey guys what id is it that I need to feed to an application like imagemagicks import as the 'terminal id'
20:32.42Hajuuand how can I find out what it is
20:32.55Hajuuor can I set it somehow in the terminal/when I open it
20:33.21bbelt16aghey peeps what's the command to search for a file in the debian  bot on here.
20:33.29bbelt16agI need to find this  file on lenny libsdl-stretch-dev
20:33.44bbelt16agxbmc compile  install file says I need it
20:33.51Hajuubbelt16ag: thats a package name, not a filename
20:34.03dondelelcarobbelt16ag: /msg dpkg search
20:34.09Hajuuyou can get the files installed by a package using dpkg-info I think
20:34.12Hajuubut I forget how
20:34.48bbelt16ag...
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20:36.06aidehuaMy screen goes blank after a period of time, even though I'm only running /usr/lib/xscreensaver/phosphor in my .xsession.  What is causing this?  gdm?
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20:36.48supersoundguysorry for asking here, but #openldap is dead, i can't find a working qmail.schema, can anyone point me in the right direction?
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20:37.14aidehuaOh, it might be pbbuttonsd
20:37.31Hajuuhey guys what id is it that I need to feed to an application like imagemagicks import as the 'terminal id'
20:37.35Hajuuor can I set it somehow in the terminal/when I open it
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20:38.00dondelelcaroHajuu: it takes a window id. for import, you can just click on the window or select the region
20:38.12dondelelcaroHajuu: otherwise, you have to get it from xwininfo or equivalent
20:38.49Hajuuyeah ive tried setting the window id
20:38.55Hajuubut when I try to read it with import it doesnt
20:38.57Hajuuwork
20:39.03Hajuuand its for an automated thing
20:39.08Hajuuso cant just click or anything heh
20:39.27klickyyhello
20:39.34klickyyi search an msn monitor sniffer
20:39.43klickyywho can i find it
20:39.47klickyyplease help
20:39.50Hajuu.....
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20:40.21ikoniaHajuu: are you using ubuntu or debian - you where in #ubuntu earlier explaining you where using ubuntu
20:40.30aidehua(Does X have the ability to blank the screen after a period of time?)
20:40.37HajuuFuck you, you ass.. You can eat mine.
20:40.40HajuuIm using ubuntu.
20:40.43Hajuuand im using debian.
20:40.58MadMoneyCan Apache httpd support socket connections that are stateful? I.e., can, via CGI, a program receive and send through Apache to a client with a socket connection that doesn't end?
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20:41.22aidehuaThere we go: X has an 'Option "BlankTime"', which defaults to 10 minutes
20:41.25MadMoneyHajuu probably is using both distributions.
20:41.26ikoniaHajuu: you're not using both - you're using one or the other, and there is no need for that attitude
20:41.33\amethystMadMoney:  yes
20:41.36HajuuThe attitude?
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20:41.50MadMoneyikonia: BS. He could be using both distributions on different computers or whatever.
20:41.57HajuuYou banned me just because you assume you are somehow smarter than me, without even really caring if it was balid or not..
20:42.08ikoniaMadMoney: not according to his earlier posts he's not
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20:42.19Hajuu.... I never said what im using earlier
20:42.20ikoniaHajuu: I didn't ban you from anywhere
20:42.25Hajuuah
20:42.31Hajuuok my appologies well someone did
20:42.32ikoniaHajuu: someone else banned you for calling people "fucking dicks" and the like
20:42.34Hajuustill pretty lame
20:43.02HajuuAnyway, I AM using both,
20:43.12MadMoneyLOL, nice use of pejoratives.
20:43.17Hajuuhowever, I should still try to uninstall debian from my ubuntu install
20:43.27ikoniauninstall debian from your ubuntu install ?
20:43.29Hajuubecause they arent the same, my kernel has +ubuntu on the end after all
20:43.30ikoniawhat are you talking about
20:43.39MadMoneyHajuu: Err, what?
20:43.43\amethystdebootstrapped debian
20:43.49Hajuu</sarcasm>
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20:44.32MadMoneyHajuu is confused or possibly a troll.
20:44.51ikoniaMadMoney: I'd put money the latter
20:45.11Hajuuim not a troll heh
20:45.18HajuuBut meh who cares
20:45.18MadMoneyHe sounds like the angry guy in marketing I had to help with his wireless.
20:45.22ikoniaare you using debian or ubuntu
20:45.29MadMoneyHajuu: The proof is in the pudding.
20:45.30Hajuuubuntu.
20:45.44ikoniaHajuu: right - so asking in a #debian channel may not be the best move
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20:45.53ikoniaHajuu: just saying that when asked makes things a lot easier
20:45.57Hajuu.... well I was trying to talk in #ubuntu
20:45.59ikoniainstead of this "both" and "they are the same" crap
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20:46.11Hajuuyou're the one raising it :/
20:46.18HajuuIt was your argument the whole time.
20:46.23HajuuI was just asking questions.
20:46.25ikoniaHajuu: because you're not telling the people in #debian you're not using debian
20:46.28MadMoneyThey do bear some striking similarities.
20:46.35Hajuu... I AM using debian.
20:46.38Hajuunot for this question
20:46.42ikoniaHajuu: you just said you're using ubuntu
20:46.44Hajuubut it doesnt matter at all for this question.
20:46.55ikoniaasking ubuntu based questions in #debian may not be the best move
20:46.57HajuuIm using debian AND ubuntu
20:47.07Hajuuplease seriously its 5am and you're really being perdantic
20:47.08MadMoneyHajuu: How so?
20:47.14HajuuDifferent computers?
20:47.18Hajuuworking together on a project?
20:47.19Hajuu:o
20:47.19MadMoneyYou mean padantic.
20:47.23Hajuulol :P
20:47.24ikoniaha ha
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20:47.28MadMoneypedantic
20:47.31MadMoneyErrrrrrr
20:47.33Hajuu:D
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20:47.51MadMoneyis embarassed :S
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20:48.24neuro_damageI'm trying to install wow but when the agreement comes up and I go all the way to the bottom of the page I don't get an agree button activated, anyone been through this before with wine+WoW
20:48.45Hajuuso.... once again.. under debian if it makes you feel better since both versions of xterm are identical
20:48.58MadMoneyneuro_damage: Try #crazysmellygamers
20:49.02Hajuuhow do I set a terminal id like id use with imagemagicks import command?
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20:49.15HajuuI tried -title and -ti and -name
20:49.31Hajuuall of which still returned 'window does not exist'
20:49.39MadMoneyHajuu: Xterm? rxvt?
20:49.48Hajuuxterm
20:49.59MadMoneyHajuu: Did you look at man xterm?
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20:50.08Hajuuyeah thats where I found those options....
20:50.17HajuuI didnt just pull them out of the air heh
20:50.25MadMoneySorry I don't know enough to help you specifically.
20:50.54MadMoneyHajuu: "yeah thats where I found those options...." Who the fuck are you?
20:51.16Hajuuer, huh?
20:51.54MadMoneyBecause suggesting man automatically means I think you haven't done any research. </sarcasm deprecated=yes foridiots=yes>
20:52.07MadMoneytrue
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20:52.40MadMoneyJust ask in #xorg or something.
20:53.04Hajuu.....
20:53.10HajuuYou're weird.
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20:53.25MadMoneyYou're unintelligent.
20:53.38azeemMadMoney: uhm, please stop insulting people
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20:54.22MadMoneyWhatever.
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20:55.17ikoniaxterm -name and xterm -title works fine here
20:55.34Hajuuhm I wonder if its cause I was trying to set it as a number
20:55.39Hajuulet me try it as a string
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20:55.47MadMoneyHajuu" Did you try quotes?
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20:55.55MadMoneyYeah.
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20:57.40Hajuuhmm
20:57.41Hajuuxterm +maximized -name "w5" -display :1.1
20:58.03Hajuuimport -display :1.1 -window "w5" /home/output.gif (in a different terminal)
20:58.23gorpHajuu, ctrl+alt+f1
20:58.40Hajuuah true heh
20:58.48Hajuuill try switching to 1.2
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20:59.50Hajuuim not entirely sure that was your point but it didnt work heh
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21:02.59Hajuuimport: no window with specified ID exists `w5': Resource temporarily unavailable
21:03.17HajuuIs there anything else that could cause a problem like that than the window not existing
21:03.21Hajuucause it definately exists heh
21:03.32nsadminmaybe it's not named that
21:03.42Hajuuyeah thats why I pasted the command
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21:04.15Hajuuive tried it using xterm -title; xterm -name; xterm -ti
21:04.24Hajuuall gave me that same error
21:05.01gorpHajuu, looking for the windowid ??? xwininfo is your friend
21:05.01nsadmin!wayttd
21:05.02dpkgWhat Are You Trying To Do?
21:05.32HajuuI want to be able to specify a terminal window id specifically, so I can capture the output of that window directly
21:05.51Hajuuwith imagemagicks import
21:05.54nsadmincapture the output?
21:06.01nsadminyou mean a screenshot?
21:06.31gorpHajuu, xwininfo will give you the window id with a click
21:06.43nsadminor the text?
21:06.43Hajuuheh yes nsadmin
21:06.47Hajuuthe output :)
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21:06.55nsadminwhich?
21:06.58gorpthen recordmydesktop -windowid 'id'
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21:07.10Hajuugorp: sorry ive said a few times you must have missed it, its an automatic system :)
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21:07.23colaevening
21:07.25Hajuunsadmin haha sorry, the screenshot
21:07.33Hajuuthus why im using imagemagick :P
21:07.36neuro_damagewhat package contains all the man pages for programs?
21:07.56azeemneuro_damage: usually, each program ships with itw own manpage
21:07.58Hajuuneuro_damage: um, none?
21:07.59Hajuuyeah
21:08.03nsadminthe wording "capture the output" means something else, just so you know
21:08.10HajuuI know
21:08.11Hajuusorry
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21:08.25Hajuujust > me > /dev/null
21:08.27colamight i ask what im hoping is a simple qustion
21:08.38nsadminyou just did
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21:09.05gorpCola, gimme 2 dollars, then you may ask
21:09.24colaif i had 2 id give it to you.. why you think im using free OS?
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21:09.59colaim getting command not found on this > ln -s linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux
21:10.00neuro_damagewhat about system call manpages?
21:10.04neuro_damagefor instance man read?
21:10.09gorpI hope this is for freedom cola
21:10.09neuro_damageor bash documentation etc..?
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21:10.30Hajuulmfao - for some reason it works when I use -name -title -ti
21:10.32Hajuulike all 3
21:10.38gorpman 2 read neuro_damage
21:11.06azeemneuro_damage: system calls are in manpages-dev I believe
21:11.12Hajuuok for some reason you need to set the name, and the terminal id
21:11.18neuro_damagegorp: cheers, yeah I'm new to debian, I've been using gentoo for a while, but then glibc/dns broke and I was like ok ftl, no documentation on the bug etc...just at the point in my life where I need to the distro to work, heh
21:11.26gorpcola, you have a strange behaviour
21:11.34neuro_damageazeem: ty
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21:11.56gorpthere's only two commands cola, in your line, uname and ln
21:12.01colasorry brane is melting.. its been a long time since i touched linux and even then i wasnt the greatest..
21:12.07nsadmincola: ln not found?
21:12.08HajuuJust so anyone knows: xterm -name "name" -ti "name" to set a terminal ID in a fully working way in Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope
21:12.11nsadmin!find ln
21:12.33neuro_damagewhere would I find the glxinfo binary? I've installed nvidia-glx, thought it would be a dependancy?
21:12.43gorpyou probably miss uname cola
21:12.45colaive been trying to install the nvidia drivers.. been following the commands ive found online and thats the next step.. but it just gives me command not found
21:13.01coladid it not display the whole line i posted?
21:13.17gorpcola  perhaps a path problem
21:13.25gorpdid you su to root ?
21:13.37dpkgDebian Search of 'ln' (10 of 54): (/usr/bin/mln) in utils/mmv ;; (/bin/ln) in utils/coreutils ;; (/usr/bin/sgmlnorm) in text/sp ;; (/usr/bin/ztelnet) in net/zssh ;; (/usr/bin/e2ln) in misc/e2tools ;; (/usr/bin/lnstat) in net/iproute ;; (/usr/bin/volname) in utils/eject ;; (/usr/bin/CtrlClnt) in mail/xmail ;; (/usr/bin/kmk_ln) in devel/kbuild ;; (/usr/bin/lndir) in x11/xutils-dev.
21:13.54safruhani:D
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21:14.08azeemneuro_damage: /mst dpkg search
21:14.10colai used su because sudo wasnt recognized on this account..
21:14.18neuro_damageazeem: k thanks
21:14.24azeemeh
21:14.31azeem<PROTECTED>
21:14.44gorpcola, did you do 'su -' or 'su' ?
21:14.48neuro_damageazeem: yeah I knew what you meant :), I'll use the bot for that kind of stuff thanks, it's helpful
21:14.57colano just straight su
21:15.32gorpcola, try 'su -', you will have a complet shell environnement with PATH variable
21:15.40nsadmincola: aptitude install coreutils
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21:16.16nsadminit should already be installed, but ln is in there and it seems to be missing
21:16.34gorpno debian system can miss coreutils, this is a path problem due to the su usage
21:16.49colaive been trying to install the nvidia drivers.. i got the headers installed then changed dir.. next command 'ln -s linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux' just gives me command not found
21:16.50neuro_damageany good documentation on install the nvidia binary packages? on a debian box?
21:16.55Hajuuis there a way to make xterm run a command or script or something when you run it?
21:16.55nsadmincould you post the output of: echo ". $PATH"
21:17.26gorpcola just try 'su -' (don-t miss the -) and retry
21:17.42nsadminoic, maybe uname is missing instead of ln
21:17.45gorpHajuu, xterm -e
21:18.13PointManwhat command do I use to issue a shutdown ? (so the hardware shuts off as well)
21:18.28gorp/sbin/shutdown -h now
21:18.52PointMantries it..
21:18.54nsadminHajuu: you should probably read man xterm (and man X)
21:19.04Hajuuive read it
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21:19.38Hajuuhmm
21:19.41PointManany of you have a dell server?
21:19.43Hajuuthe problem with -e
21:19.45nsadminnot sure why you were missing -e then
21:19.49Hajuuis that it outputs straight away
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21:20.04dondelelcaroPointMan: what's your question?
21:20.11Hajuunsadmin: you read something like 10 pages long once a few times and know it 100% ? :)
21:20.16colagarp still getting command not found damn i had installing drivers
21:20.26Hajuuwhen its mostly like -dc +cu
21:20.27Hajuuheh
21:20.35nsadminHajuu: no, that's why I read it again when I have a question about it
21:20.47Hajuuok sure
21:20.48PointMandondelelcaro: hehe what is the button on the front of the dell R200 server marked with an i for? ;)
21:20.49gorpcola, are you running a debian ?
21:20.55Hajuuill read 10 pages every time I have a question
21:20.59colayeh fresh lenny install
21:21.10yuastnavUh, does iceweasel actually have a directory where it stores the cache e.g. where you can find all the images and audio files and what not?
21:21.23gorpcola, as nsadmin suggested, try an apt-get install coreutils then
21:22.05gorpbut I can't believe a system could ever lived without the ln command
21:22.08nsadminHajuu: one, if you do that, you'll pick up on things you missed... but two, if you're reading to answer a specific question, you don't necessarily have to read the whole thing
21:22.14colai dont know if this helps answer anything its what ive been following.. im at No 4
21:22.15colahttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/
21:22.27Hajuuheh yeah sorry I dont mean to be difficult nsadmin
21:22.32Hajuuits just that I have been reading it alot
21:22.37Hajuubut all the options are uber obscure
21:22.42Hajuuwell mostly
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21:23.12gorpcola, don't use this shit sudo su
21:23.32gorpcola, try just su - and enter the root passwrd
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21:23.58colayeh i did but for some reason 4 just wont work.. just gives me command not found
21:24.07Hajuuif I use xterm -e - the xterm app just runs the program and closes, which is particularly unuseful as it does it instantly, and I cant grab the screenbuffer
21:24.08Hajuuheh
21:24.18Hajuucan I make it stay open somehow?
21:24.34MatBoyhe, sometimes I need that line :D
21:24.39nsadmincola: probably the debian instructions for doing that are more appropriate (if you're actually running debian)
21:24.47HajuuI just want something to run in everyones shell when they open it
21:24.56Hajuuthen leave them with a normal term
21:24.57nsadminHajuu: this would be for a ubuntu box, right?\
21:25.04colaadmin im running lenny
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21:25.33gorpcola, there is two points, you don't need to do this command to install nvidia drivers.
21:25.40dondelelcaroPointMan: the hardware user guide should tell you
21:25.54gorpthe second point, you should go to text console to do that
21:25.55ajavidanyone ever think about backporting xorg7.4 to lenny?
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21:26.03nsadminHajuu: then look into the scripts that run when the shell starts
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21:26.12PointMandondelelcaro: didnt see but i guess ill have to recheck, was just hoping someone here had -- its a popular model
21:26.28Hajuunsadmin: heh sure, any pointers as to where that might be?
21:26.32Hajuuid have no idea
21:26.47dondelelcaroPointMan: basically, it causes the lights on the front and back to blink so you can locate the machine
21:26.47gorpcola, just hit ctrl-alt-f1, loggin as root, stop X with /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then proceed the nvidia installation
21:26.52nsadminman bash, FILES section (for bash)
21:27.13ajavidcan one simple sid backport on xorg without too much trouble?
21:27.32HajuuOk actually sorry I think im actually going about this in the wrong way really
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21:27.36PointMandondelelcaro: but its a button you can push while standing next to it -- so you know its right afront of you :p
21:27.38nsadminit may or may not be so simple
21:27.54Hajuubasically what I really want to know is actually if its possible to rebind the stdin and stdout of an xterm
21:28.19Hajuulike to a file thats streaming input
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21:28.24colagorp ill still need to install the driver though.. use the command thats listed on the site or do a straight download from the site?
21:28.33gorpHajuu, xterm stderr and stdin are bind to a /dev/pts
21:29.07Hajuugorp: so I can just use their pts as an in?
21:29.24nsadminif you have permission to
21:29.30Hajuusuhweet
21:29.41gorpHajuu, it depends, the pts are owned by the uid of the xterm of course
21:29.42nsadmin!wayttd
21:29.42dpkgWhat Are You Trying To Do?
21:29.55Hajuulol ^^
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21:30.04Hajuunice function
21:30.06Hajuuum
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21:30.37gorpcola, just download the nvidia drivers; and excute it form a console, it' s a shell script
21:30.47Hajuuwell im trying to render ncurses output frames and send them to our proprietary shell client that only supports image objects and text
21:30.58nsadminspecifically... why are you trying to capture the stdin of someone else's term?
21:31.01colak thx for the help.. any luck and ill be back with it working
21:31.04Hajuulol no no
21:31.08Hajuunothing like that
21:31.44colabtw before i do leave... is there any recomended reading material for learning basic commands etc?
21:31.45dondelelcaroPointMan: it also can be triggered remotely; it's useful when you have a 48U rack filled with 1U machines (or a whole data center filled with the things)
21:31.48HajuuI dont need to capture the output, all I need is the image im capturing
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21:31.58dondelelcarocola: info coreutils; for starters
21:32.00Hajuubut I need a file to stream the input for it to
21:32.03Hajuuso thats cool
21:32.13Hajuuthis is going to be a monster shell command heh
21:32.20PointMandondelelcaro: ah, didnt know it could be trigggered remotely, yeah then it makes sense, thanks :)
21:32.26colak
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21:32.50dondelelcaroPointMan: it also makes sense even if you're there, because it's often hard to figure out what machine you're looking at in the back that matches the machine you're working on in the front
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21:33.26PointMandondelelcaro: im dissapointed about the dell software utility software though...it cant download the drivers directly from the dell website, it needs the drivers on a media, silly when its booting up a linux kernel
21:33.37gorpguess cola will never return
21:34.14gorpPointMan, Dell is selling server ??? I mean .... reliable rackable machines ?
21:34.26Hajuuloll
21:34.33Hajuuwas your suprise then a joke?
21:34.35PointMangorp: i cant complain :p
21:34.41Hajuuits hard to tell on irc
21:34.44Hajuu:P
21:34.56dondelelcarogorp: they've been selling them since their inception
21:34.59PointMantake a look at hp or ibm, you dont get a chance to configure your own system
21:35.01PointMansilly
21:35.15gorpHp do not support Debian
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21:35.45PointManthere you go :p
21:35.46gorpHP only deliver their drivers and software pack for Suse or Rhel
21:36.12TrueDDGood night all
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21:41.55mouseclonehello everyone.  I'm trying to get mysqli to compile in php but it doesn't seem possible in Lenny.  Is there something that I need to do, or should i just go over to the php channel?
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21:45.08nsadminphp has a compiler now?
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21:45.54neuro_damageI'm very confused right now ... my system is reporting that all 3 gigs are being used up
21:46.05neuro_damagein top, but top isn't showing anything with more than 3.5% of the memory?
21:46.08Draciehow do i get figlet (not toilet) onto my system
21:46.09themillmouseclone: mysqli is already available within the debian packages -- why not just use them?
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21:46.16Dracieneuro_damage: what about kernel threads
21:46.19neuro_damageI'm running the JFS filesystem could this be related to large file transfers?
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21:46.27neuro_damageDracie: how do I check those?
21:46.47Dracienot sure if top already shows them, but install htop its much easier to use
21:46.54nsadmin!info figlet
21:46.56dpkgfiglet: (Frank, Ian & Glenn's Letters), section non-free/text, is optional. Version: 2.2.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 146 kB, Installed size: 836 kB
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21:47.07neuro_damageDracie: ok, thanks
21:47.08mouseclonethemill: I'm having to compile php5.2.9 because it was requested and this is not in the repoes
21:47.18mib_n8p0nmhi all, i've ubuntu 9.04 and i've buy a skystar2 rev. 2.3P
21:47.34mib_n8p0nmsome one have some link to suggest to me for installing driver for ss2?
21:47.38mib_n8p0nmthanks
21:48.02nsadminmib_n8p0nm: you're not going to switch to debian? ubuntu support is in #ubuntu
21:48.02neuro_damageDracie: I know I've seen the worst system performance out of JFS filesystem than anything else, and it's primarily when I transfer large files ... ever heard of that?
21:48.04mouseclonethemill: mysql did install the the mysqli.so stuff but the php compile will not configure for mysqli.
21:48.15neuro_damageDracie: I think I'm in need of re-educating myself on linux filesystems out there, heh
21:48.31Draciejfs isn't very good for large file transfers if i recall right
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21:48.49nsadminwhy?
21:49.08Dracienot sure
21:49.12DracieI am no expect
21:49.23DracieI only use jfs on my 3.2 gb ibook internal
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21:49.48Dracieotherwise I use ext3 for my desktop, with my media and games (large games like WoW) on a xfs partition
21:49.58nsadminthat is... why should it matter what you do (i.e., transfer) to a file?
21:50.20DracieI really don't know =]
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21:51.12nsadminok... probably better to hold off saying things like "X isn't very good for Y" if you don't know the specifics
21:51.33Dracieaye
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21:51.40Draciewell apaprently its fast at moving large files
21:51.56nsadminif you do that you're spreading rumors you don't know the content or reasoning of
21:51.57DracieI use it because its best for my laptop
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21:52.08Dracieyeah
21:52.30Draciemy ibook is 300 MHz so lowest cpu usage for file system is appreciated to me =]
21:52.47Draciealso it seems to not spin up as often as ext3 might of
21:52.48nsadminwhen you say "transfer" what do you mean exactly?
21:52.59Draciehttp://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/JFS_Installation_or_Conversion_for_Boosting_Performance
21:53.02Dracieread it there
21:53.37nsadmindo you mean a network transfer? or something else?
21:54.00nsadmin(a web site isn't going to tell me what you mean unless you post there :)
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21:56.54themillmouseclone: I'd think very carefully before chasing php versions like that. You're creating yourself a lot of work in continually upgrading versions each time a new one comes out and in retesting all your php stuff to make sure the upgrade hasn't broken anything. By chasing versions like that, you don't enjoy the benefits of debian *stable*.
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21:57.16themillmouseclone: Was there a specific feature in 5.2.9 that isn't in 5.2.6?
21:58.17mouseclonethemill: not that i know of it was what was used on the old server
21:58.51mouseclonethemill: so if you think that it is better to just use the 5.2.6, how do I uninstall 5.2.9?
21:59.05themillhow did you install it?
21:59.24mouseclonethemill: ./configure make and make install
21:59.38themillthere's a reasonable chance that make uninstall will work then.
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22:00.17nsadminand if not, just make install again, and capture the output into a fiel... read that file to determine where it copied things to
22:01.07ajavidI want to clean my system, what would be the good regex to remove all -dev pacakges from the system
22:01.13ajavidwithout screwing up things
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22:01.34mouseclonensadmin: then just rm those directories?
22:01.56ajavidsudo apt-get remove ^.*-dev* <- good enough?
22:01.59nsadminif and only if those directories were made by make install
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22:02.42ajavidit wants to remvoe a lot of other stuff
22:02.50nsadminyou're mixing filename globbing and regex
22:03.18octo__i have a usb 2.0 sd card(other cards too) reader that just plugs into the usb ports on the motherboard. I have it hooked up corectly, but I dont seem to be able to read anything from the cards? Is there a kernel module I may need to make it work correctly?
22:04.08themillajavid: "aptitude remove ~n-dev" and then alter it with the interactive solver if you want
22:04.26themillbut it's going to end badly....
22:05.07ajavidhm
22:05.53mouseclonewell it didn't show that it made any directories..
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22:06.17nsadminso don't remove dirs, just remove files, and just the ones it made
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22:06.35nsadminI take it make uninstall didn't work?
22:07.20mouseclonensadmin: nope no option configure for make uninstall
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22:07.44mouseclonewould it be possible to remove php5 though apt-get or aptitude and then reinstall?
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22:07.53nsadminno.
22:08.06nsadminbecause you didn't install it by apt.
22:08.53mouseclonensadmin: i did at first.  but then started compiling 5.2.9
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22:09.24mouseclonensadmin: so if I uninstall 5.2.6 though apt-get should it remove the 5.2.9?
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22:10.22PointManwhere can I find information on getting mdadm to send an email when a drive crashes? (raid 1)
22:11.02nsadminhmm, so I'd try this:
22:11.12tarzeauhm what for? you'll notice when the 2nd disk breaks
22:11.16nsadminremove the 5.2.6 version with apt
22:11.31ajavidtarzeau, !
22:11.34tarzeau:)
22:11.35nsadminthen remove any files at the paths shown in the make install output
22:11.50ajavidtarzeau, whats up, long time no see
22:11.57ajavidtarzeau, wher are you these days?
22:12.08safruhanitarzeau: always been on #debian.tr :)
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22:12.18tarzeauajavid: great. i was at the lake of bienne, had fish, champagne, beer and another sort of beer
22:12.24ajavidlol
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22:12.35ajavidtarzeau, I been playing nintento DS roms nonstop
22:12.36tarzeauajavid: nethacking? traveling? bbq? girls? parties?
22:12.38Hajuuhow can I get my current terminals /dev/pts file from the console
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22:12.45ajavidtarzeau, awesome
22:12.47Hajuulike the name of it
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22:12.58tarzeauajavid: nice. tried world of goo yet? i played singstar alot with drunk friends
22:13.00ajavidtarzeau, I'm just zending the framework, coding, girling, partying
22:13.02PointMannm found http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=109613
22:13.09ajavidtarzeau, nah
22:13.21ajavidtarzeau, I'm trying to get a bluetooth moduel, a wiimote, and a wii emulator
22:13.25themillHajuu: "tty"
22:13.30ajavidtarzeau, that will kick butt
22:13.35tarzeauajavid: i really like lego star wars 2 players
22:13.35ajavidtarzeau, and I got mame hooked up already
22:13.49ajavidsad thing, doesn't work fullscreen good, cuz of fake 3d
22:13.51Hajuu"tty"
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22:13.58donderHey guys, is it possible to have an external usb hdd with multiple partitions? thanks
22:13.58ajavidand ic ant' get 3d in stable so im like fucked
22:13.59tarzeau!tty
22:13.59dpkgextra, extra, read all about it, tty is an abbreviation for "teletype".  More generically, it refers to any terminal or terminal emulator.
22:14.04tarzeaudonder: yes
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22:14.07ajavidim having to do gaming on stable machine without 3d
22:14.08ajavid;)
22:14.11Hajuuajavid: did you mention mame and zend in the same sentance?
22:14.19tarzeauajavid: tried the new sauerbraten.org yet?
22:14.25ajavidnope not yet
22:14.28themillpoints towards #debian-offtopic
22:14.29tarzeauHajuu: sentence!
22:14.30dondertarzeau,  will it work in windows also or only under linux? what about osx?
22:14.32ajavidHajuu, uhm what now?
22:14.39ajavidthemill, #debian-gmaes
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22:14.41ajavidactually
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22:14.47tarzeauDanDare: yes. yes.
22:14.54themillajavid: wherever (else) you want
22:15.17Hajuu[06:22] <tarzeau> !tty
22:15.17Hajuu[06:22] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, tty is an abbreviation for "teletype".  More generically, it refers to any terminal or terminal emulator.
22:15.18Hajuulol
22:15.23Hajuuhow is that helpful?
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22:15.29HajuuI know what tty stands for
22:15.35tarzeauHajuu: now i know too :)
22:15.39HajuuI dont know how to use it to get my pts file name
22:15.46Hajuuor how to use it at all
22:15.52Hajuuo i c
22:15.52themillHajuu: [23:13] <themill> Hajuu: "tty"
22:16.03mouseclonensadmin: apt-get remove php* then Y did the trick
22:16.21mouseclonensadmin: i'm back to php5.2.6-1 + lenny
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22:16.58Hajuuhaha
22:16.59Hajuuoh
22:17.04mouseclonenow to see if I can't get mysqli working
22:17.13HajuuWell... You could have said you just run it.. I had no idea
22:17.29Hajuuwhat am I supposed to do, try and run every term mentioned to me in here as an executable
22:17.31HajuuxD
22:17.59nsadminno, you read the man page first... no telling what people are going to tell you
22:18.16themillThe answer to "how do I find out what the name of my tty is" was always going to be a command that you run in it
22:18.20Hajuubash: man: command not found
22:18.22HajuuxD
22:18.23Hajuulol
22:18.26HajuuI kid.
22:18.28themill!lol
22:18.28dpkgIf you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user.
22:18.38Hajuulollerskates!
22:18.43Hajuuroflecoptar
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22:18.45Hajuu:)))
22:18.57Hajuu^_^
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22:20.06nsadminHajuu: btw what's dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 say
22:20.13mouseclonensadmin: thank you for the help.  phpmyadmin got the mysqli working.. I needed phpmyadmin anyway so it worked out
22:20.24themillmouseclone: excellent
22:21.26Hajuuit says : (this is your own fault for thinking you can joke around)
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22:21.45nsadminmouseclone: you might consider postgres for future projects; it has features that let you define ways to keep your data uncorrupt
22:21.48Hajuu<PROTECTED>
22:21.49themill!stop pasting Hajuu
22:21.49dpkgHajuu: We don't defecate on your keyboard. Please don't paste in our channel. /msg dpkg paste
22:22.06PointManin order to send out a mail i need to hve sendmail running on the system, is there a problem with me blocking it using iptables so other hosts cant connect to it?
22:22.11HajuuI saw you defecating on my keyboard, so I feel entitled.
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22:22.31mouseclonensadmin: I will talk with the web developers about that.  I just try and support what they need
22:22.35mousecloneor want
22:22.52nsadminperhaps you have your own project tho
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22:24.08nsadminHajuu: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1
22:24.31HajuuYou're just lucky freenode wont let me paste huge ascii penixus
22:24.47Hajuumr clever.
22:24.57Hajuuthats like the ol.. what was it for windows
22:25.04Hajuuformat c: /y or something
22:25.23Hajuuand like heaps of people ran it if they thought they needed to
22:25.26Hajuuno 'man' on dos
22:25.27Hajuulol
22:25.34themillHajuu: do you have another debian-suppurt related question?
22:25.37nsadminif you were to read the dpkg man page, you'd find it doesn't actually write anything to any file
22:25.49Hajuusigh
22:25.52Hajuufreenode is so lane
22:25.52tarzeau!penix
22:25.53dpkgi guess penix is lund
22:25.53Hajuulame
22:25.57Hajuuyou cant just chill ever.
22:26.10Hajuusomeones always like go here because you cant talk here.
22:26.10tarzeauHajuu: it was very chilly some years ago
22:26.12Hajuulol
22:26.13nsadmin!enter
22:26.13dpkgThe enter key is not a substitute for punctuation.  Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying.  Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead.  If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
22:26.15tarzeauHajuu: before you came
22:26.30Hajuutarzeau: I come at LEAST once a year ;)
22:26.36tarzeau!lol
22:26.37dpkgIf you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user.
22:26.48themillHajuu: please try to take up fewer lines to say nothing. This isn't a social channel -- if you want to chat, try #defocus or #debian-offtopic
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22:27.31Hajuulets all chat in #donkey-sex-killed-the-drama-queen-911-fanclub-poetry-synapse-x11
22:27.44tarzeauman isn't so important, i sometimes rm -f `which rm` to annoy people
22:27.47PointManso is there a drawback of blocking connections from other hosts to sendmail
22:27.48PointMan??
22:28.06HajuuPointMan: other hosts cant use your sendmail? :/
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22:28.16HajuuIf you only use it on one host, then no.
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22:28.39PointManHajuu: but im thinking if a mail sent out fails then the other mail agents would like to report back wouldnt they
22:28.41PointManto my sendmail
22:28.46nsadmintarzeau: getting someone to do that here as root could be a fairly serious problem
22:28.56HajuuPointMan: usually
22:29.03Hajuuyou cant rely on it though
22:29.13tarzeaunsadmin: not really, is it?
22:29.23themillPointMan: You probably don't really want to run sendmail. Try exim in "smarthost" configuration instead
22:29.37tarzeaunsadmin: you can always get rm back with scp from another host?
22:29.37nsadminif they did not intend to remove the rm command, I'd say it is
22:29.57Hajuuwhy would they remove rm :/
22:30.10nsadminexactly my point
22:30.10tarzeauindeed, WARNING removing rm, will not allow you to rm any more files with rm
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22:30.13tarzeaunsadmin: better?
22:30.22tarzeauHajuu: to annoy themselves of boredom?
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22:30.31Hajuulol
22:30.59PointManthemill: why not satellite system?
22:31.06nsadminI suppose it isn't my job to protect anyone from boredom
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22:33.32tarzeaunsadmin: is ns the short for nextstep?
22:33.45nsadminnaviserv
22:33.46themillPointMan: iinm, that's the same thing in the exim config
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22:36.00mouseclonewhat is a good ftp service to run?
22:36.09nsadminnone
22:36.20Eulexvsftpd if you _really_ have to run one
22:36.22themill"no such thing" is the standard answer around here....
22:36.50nsadminftp is insecure protocol, it shows passwords in cleartext in the packets
22:37.12donderAnyone know the minimum size of a usb flash drive to install ubuntu onto it with the startup disk creator? thanks
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22:37.17Hajuulol what if its a public server?
22:37.20Eulexyou can use anonymous ftp
22:37.20Hajuu:/
22:37.22Hajuuyeah
22:37.33mouseclonewell I have to run one.  people on windows don't know how to use rysnc to move data
22:37.34HajuuImpossible..
22:37.49themilldonder: wrong channel. Try #ubuntu
22:37.51Hajuuive seen people using ssh for a loopback limited only to their localhost
22:38.13Hajuuits like um why arent you using telnet if its limited and just a loopback anyway
22:38.24themillmouseclone: there are plenty of nice gui sftp tools -- filezilla is a nice, free one.
22:38.31nsadminno telnetd on my box :)
22:38.32Hajuuapparently he couldnt find any support for telnet but there was heaps for ssh
22:38.33Hajuu:P
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22:38.43Eulexwinscp is another (for windows users)
22:38.51mouseclonethemill: looking for a service not a client
22:39.16Eulexmouseclone, sftp works with a standard ssh server
22:39.18mouseclonewas looking for a service to run on the webserver
22:39.18themillmouseclone: sftp is already on your machine (it's part of ssh); you just need the windows client for the other people to use
22:39.22PointManthemill: if I pick 'mail sent by smarthost; no local mail' can I then still use it to send email alerts out with?
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22:39.43themillPointMan: that sounds exactly like the configuration you were describing earlier, yes
22:39.59colahey
22:40.40EulexPointMan, you can.
22:40.59coladunno if gorp is still around or not.. wanted to say thx for the help earlier.. havnt had any joy yet but still appreciate the help
22:41.29themilldpkg: tell mouseclone about sftp
22:42.24mouseclonethemill: if i use sftp can they use wsftp to connect to it?
22:42.30colaanyway.. thx laters
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22:43.53themillmouseclone: I have no idea if wsftp offers that functionality. It used not to do sftp. That's why I was telling you that there are plenty of other good, free sftp clients around like filezilla and winscp instead.
22:43.56nsadminmouseclone: should be, yes... it should be that all you need on the server side is sshd
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22:45.24themillmouseclone: looks like the latest wsftp supports sftp too... shows how long since I've used windows.
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22:46.32lulzyboydoes anybody know why i need another hdd in my machine to boot it
22:46.42mouseclonethemill: kewl beans will setup sftp then thanks
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22:47.18lulzyboyi took the HDD out of a old server when i upgraded it, but in order for it to boot i need to have at least two hard drives in there
22:47.22mouseclonelulzyboy: it could be that grub is looking for (h1,0) and not (h0,0)
22:47.24lulzyboyeven if the 2nd hard drive isnt even formatted
22:47.39lulzyboyive looked in grub its trying to find 0,0
22:48.14nsadminso there's your answer... grub is looking for it
22:48.19mouseclonelulzyboy: then you have hit the limit of my knowledge i think
22:48.39lulzyboyyes but 0,0 is the hdd debian is on
22:48.58nsadminI was just about to ask about that...
22:49.28nsadminwhat does /boot/grub/device.map say about hd0
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22:50.07lulzyboy-bash: /boot/grub/device.map: Permission denied
22:50.25nsadminoh, look in the file, it's a text file
22:50.45adbcat  /boot/grub/device.map
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22:50.54lulzyboyit says(hd0)   /dev/hda
22:50.59Akuwany application to convert audio cd to mp3?
22:51.49abrotmanAkuw: tons ?
22:51.49abrotman!tell Akuw about lame
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22:51.49nsadminso your drive is the primary master
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22:51.50lulzyboyyes
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22:51.50EulexAkuw, abcde is a good console one
22:51.50owen1when i switch between dvorak and querty the arrow keys and window keys stops working. i use this command: 'setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout us'.  maybe the problem is the keyboard model? I use dinovo edge. how to find the exact string for my keyboard?
22:51.50lulzyboyso why does it look for the extra drive which isnt formatted
22:51.50Javi-KHi !
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22:52.31nsadminlulzyboy: what looks for it?
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22:52.46lulzyboywell when it boots, it freezes for about 5 minutes
22:52.52nsadmindoes device.map say anything about other drives?
22:52.54lulzyboythen says cannot find hd 1,0
22:52.55lulzyboyno
22:52.58nsadminwhen does it freeze?
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22:53.18lulzyboyafter grub
22:53.24lulzyboyjust after
22:53.24nsadmindoes menu.lst (in same dir) say anything about hd1?
22:53.48mouseclonewonders if it is looking to mount a hd after grub
22:54.07lulzyboy## default grub root device
22:54.07lulzyboy##
22:54.07lulzyboy# groot=(hd0,0)
22:54.33nsadminso, so far, no
22:54.39lulzyboynope
22:54.49lulzyboytitle           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686
22:54.49lulzyboyroot            (hd0,0)
22:54.49lulzyboykernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
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22:55.07nsadminok, maybe grub was installed to look for an hd1 for some parts of itself
22:55.25nsadmindo you have more than one os on that drive?
22:55.29adb<PROTECTED>
22:55.30lulzyboyno
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22:56.17lulzyboyi could reinstall grub
22:56.21mesa_boogersometimes hda1 == sda1
22:56.29lulzyboyits a IDE drive
22:56.43nsadminI was going to suggest that... where is it installed to now? the mbr?
22:56.45mouseclonelulzyboy: why is it looking for /dev/hdc1 .. should it be /deb/hda1?
22:56.55lulzyboyive no idea
22:56.57lulzyboyi didnt edit this
22:57.09nsadminadb: where do you see that?
22:57.25adb<PROTECTED>
22:57.40adbsee above his
22:57.48nsadminoic
22:57.51nsadminright
22:57.59mouseclonelulzyboy: do you have an sata or scsi drives in the server?
22:58.02lulzyboyno
22:58.03nsadminthat's the secondary master
22:58.40nsadmintry running update-grub
22:58.57lulzyboywarning: grub-probe can't find drive for /dev/hdb1.
22:58.57lulzyboyPlease check /boot/grub/device.map, you might have to regenerate it with grub-mkdevicemap.
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22:59.21nsadminhdb1?
22:59.21adblulzyboy: BIOS can't boot from  secondary master , so needs a primary disk
22:59.34lulzyboythe board only has 1 IDE input
22:59.55lulzyboyso it would only be primary master and slave
22:59.58nsadminso it's not possible to have an hdc
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23:00.25adbgrub-probe --recheck
23:00.26mouseclonelulzyboy: how many sata ports on board?
23:00.29lulzyboy4
23:00.34lulzyboywait 2 i think
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23:01.40nsadminlulzyboy: grep hd[bc] /boot/grub/menu.lst | wc -l
23:01.51lulzyboysaid 5
23:02.08nsadminlulzyboy: grep hd[bc] /boot/grub/menu.lst | head -1
23:02.25lulzyboy##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
23:03.09Akuwabcde is very fast
23:03.49ajavidhuh
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23:04.33nsadminlulzyboy: grep "#[^#]*kopt" /boot/grub/menu.lst | head -1
23:04.47lulzyboy## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
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23:05.02Akuwabcde convert cd audo to ogg? or mp3?
23:05.11nsadminoops :)
23:05.17nsadminlulzyboy: grep "^#[^#]*kopt" /boot/grub/menu.lst | head -1
23:05.28lulzyboy# kopt=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
23:05.36nsadminthere it is
23:05.57nsadminwhat's your actual root partition?
23:06.08lulzyboyshould be /
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23:06.23adblulzyboy: uname -r , does say ?
23:06.25nsadminyes, what's mounted on / right now?
23:06.36lulzyboyuname -r
23:06.36lulzyboy2.6.26-2-686
23:06.44lulzyboyim pretty sure its primary
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23:06.58nsadminlook at output of mount
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23:07.04jelly-homedo I add "<nsadmin> what's your actual root partition? <lulzyboy> should be /" to qotd or not, that is the question
23:07.32nsadminno, that's too obvious
23:07.33lulzyboyserver:~# mount
23:07.33lulzyboy/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
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23:08.35nsadminlulzyboy: ok, find the line that reads "# kopt=root=/dev/hdc1 ro"
23:08.56lulzyboyyes
23:08.59lulzyboygot
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23:09.02nsadminwhile you're editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
23:09.09LETARIS-4fcehello
23:09.23redstickok, i have really messed up a samba install. how can i totally purge my system of all things samba?
23:09.24nsadminchange hdc1 to hda1
23:09.26nsadminsave the file
23:09.34nsadminrun update-grub
23:09.34LETARIS-4fcehello
23:09.43LETARIS-4fcehello
23:09.50lulzyboykernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro quiet
23:09.53lulzyboychange that one?
23:09.57nsadmin!ask
23:09.57dpkgIf you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
23:10.04nsadminlulzyboy: ok, find the line that reads "# kopt=root=/dev/hdc1 ro"
23:10.09nsadminTHAT line.
23:10.11lulzyboyah
23:10.12lulzyboygot it
23:10.26nsadminthen run update-grub
23:10.32LETARIS-4fcecan you help me get debian on my xo labtop
23:10.40lulzyboyserver:~# update-grub
23:10.40lulzyboySearching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
23:10.40lulzyboywarning: grub-probe can't find drive for /dev/hdb1.
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23:11.14abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: the OLPC laptop ?
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23:11.21LETARIS-4fceyes
23:11.29abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: http://wiki.debian.org/howto_debian_olpc
23:11.39abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: disclaimer: i've never used that page
23:12.04LETARIS-4fcebut i need help reading it
23:12.08nsadminlulzyboy grep "/dev/hdb1" /boot/grub/menu.lst | wc -l
23:12.08lulzyboyshould i regeerate device.map?
23:12.19lulzyboyok done, it says 0
23:12.24nsadminit's only got one line
23:12.34nsadminright?
23:12.49lulzyboyPlease check /boot/grub/device.map, you might have to regenerate it with grub-mkdevicemap.
23:12.54nsadminthe device.map file has one line?
23:12.55lulzyboythats what it says thats why i thought regenrate
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23:12.59lulzyboyyes
23:13.15nsadmin(hd0) /dev/hda
23:13.16nsadmin?
23:13.36lulzyboyyes
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23:15.15nsadmingrep "/dev/hdb" /boot/grub/* | pastebinit
23:15.19LETARIS-4fcehello
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23:15.33lulzyboygrep "/dev/hdb" /boot/grub/*
23:15.34lulzyboyserver:~#
23:16.05nsadminoh, is this machine right next to you physically?
23:16.10lulzyboyyes
23:16.28nsadminand there's only debian?
23:16.30lulzyboyyes
23:16.31mesa_boogerthen kick it gently, then cycle the power ...
23:16.38lulzyboylol kick it
23:16.48lulzyboyill remove the hard drive first?
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23:17.12mesa_booger"have you tried turning it off then on again ?"
23:17.17nsadminkick it to the curb, make sure the curb is at least 40 feet away first...
23:17.27LETARIS-4fcehahaha
23:17.33lulzyboyill take hdd out and tell you how it goes
23:17.49nsadminit probably goes in an arc!
23:18.27nsadminok, so grub is probably installed with some reference to hdb
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23:19.15LETARIS-4fcecan you help me get xfce on xo labtop
23:19.27LETARIS-4fceor ubuntu
23:19.37nsadmindo you have /boot as a separate partition?
23:19.43LETARIS-4fceno
23:19.49abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: did you read the wiki URL ?
23:20.07abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: why can't you read it?
23:20.19nsadminlulzyboy do you have /boot as a separate partition?
23:20.23LETARIS-4fcehello
23:20.46lulzyboyyes
23:20.55lulzyboyand its just  haulted like alaways
23:20.56nsadminyou do, ok, what partition?
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23:21.13lulzyboyfrozen on loading linux kernal
23:21.15abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: do not msg me please .. talk in here
23:21.21LETARIS-4fceno
23:21.25djari!list
23:21.25dpkgdjari: VATTENE VIA
23:21.30abrotmani'm not going to answer in msg
23:21.37mesa_boogerno, what ?
23:21.46LETARIS-4fcewhy
23:21.59abrotmanbecause *this* is the support channel.  /msg is not
23:22.07LETARIS-4fceso
23:22.15nsadminmaybe because if he did that would make him your private tutor
23:22.20Zharf/msg is not a channel!
23:22.21LETARIS-4fceyes
23:22.46LETARIS-4fceget off zharf
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23:22.57abrotmanrides Zharf
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23:23.12mesa_booger"but i need to tell you all my secret passwords and sexual peccadilloes"
23:23.14Zharfmy back can't support your weight!
23:23.38LETARIS-4fcehahahahaha
23:23.45DindeHello ! I just moved from etch to lenny and it seems that libssp0 disapeared :o
23:23.54LETARIS-4fceso
23:23.56DindeDoes anyone have any idea ?
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23:24.03LETARIS-4fceno bye
23:24.13simonrvnLETARIS-4fce: ...
23:24.15nsadminDinde just try to install it
23:24.22decoi have debian lenny, how can i always how the lates iceweasel ?
23:24.28decolatest*
23:24.29Dindehttp://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libssp0
23:24.30abrotmanDinde: seems to be part of gcc-4.1 now
23:24.40abrotmanDinde: apt-cache show gcc-4.1 | grep libssp
23:25.05DindeI can't locate the lib :o
23:25.14abrotmanDinde: i just showed you why
23:25.22nsadminssp has something to do with gcc?
23:25.27abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: if you want support from me, please talk in here
23:25.29mesa_boogerdeco: iceweasel is more secure than firefox (usually). testing/squeeze should be ok
23:25.41DindeOk so I need to recompile my apps probably
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23:25.53Dindelibssp0-dev = libssp0 ?
23:26.00abrotmanmesa_booger: he's on lenny .. and his iceweasel is fine
23:26.01mesa_boogerno
23:26.05abrotmanDinde: i'd guess ..
23:26.08LETARIS-4fceok ok ok ok ok ok ok
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23:26.10decomesa_booger, so i just add that repository to always have the latest ?
23:26.21Dindeabrotman: thanks for answering ;)
23:26.21decolatest iceweasel
23:26.29abrotmandeco: no .. you do not
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23:26.40abrotmandeco: what's wrong with the iceweasel you have?
23:26.49mesa_boogerabrotman: ok cool. just erring on the side of ... er ... well ... instability
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23:27.13decoabrotman, well i want the latest one that everyone in using
23:27.15decois*
23:27.21abrotmandeco: it is the latest one in lenny ..
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23:27.32decoabrotman, or is it really different from firefox? the versions?
23:27.45LETARIS-4fcehello
23:27.51abrotmandeco: it has security fixes and works perfectly fine .. do you have a problem with it ?
23:28.00abrotmanLETARIS-4fce: what is your native language?
23:28.12mesa_boogerhaha]
23:28.12LETARIS-4fceusa
23:28.23mesa_boogeroh my giddy aunt
23:28.24abrotmanreally?
23:28.27LETARIS-4fceirmingham,al
23:28.31abrotmanbesides that USA isn't a language ...
23:28.37LETARIS-4fcebirmingham,al
23:28.41decoabrotman, no but i am wondering if could have the latest that everyone is using outside of debian. but it seems it does not really matter for iceweasel right?
23:29.01mousecloneis a dumbass. feels he is in over his head
23:29.12abrotmandeco: unless you're having a problem with it, i'd just stick with the one already in lenny
23:29.27decoabrotman, so its really like firefox 3.0 ?
23:29.34LETARIS-4fceno
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23:29.40abrotmanyeah, pretty much .. there's a changelog that shows the differences
23:29.44abrotmandeco: and ignore LETARIS-4fce
23:29.55LETARIS-4fcefirefox 9
23:29.56decoabrotman, will, how can i see the changelog?
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23:30.14abrotmandeco: /usr/share/doc/iceweasel/ .. or packages.debian.org/iceweasel
23:30.24decoabrotman, thank you very much
23:30.43abrotmandeco: /msg dpkg iceweasel, /msg dpkg why iceweasel (if you care about the why part)
23:31.22DindeThanks abrotman, see you people
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23:31.30decoabrotman, thanks
23:31.52LETARIS-4fceok
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23:34.05mousecloneI have set up userftp to connect to the server using sftp.  I have used chown userftp:www-data -R * for the files on the webserver.  when using sftp I am unable to create a directory and get permission denied
23:34.10mousecloneany ideas?
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23:36.19mousecloneroot on sftp works fine.
23:36.50olpc-helperhello
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23:37.10RedLance1Okay...I have an older Laptop (HP xf255) that I wish to use as a portable X terminal.  It has a 20gb hard drive, a floppy drive a broken CD drive and will not boot from USB...how can I get a minimal install of Linux on it so I can use XDMCP to control my desktop?
23:37.35abrotman!tell RedLance1 about bf
23:37.46nsadmin!cooperation in asking for help
23:37.46dpkgcooperation in asking for help is, like, trying to give as much relevant information as possible and reading cited documentation. Ask me about <sicco> and <research>. Abbreviated as <cia>
23:37.48abrotmanRedLance1: use the etch boot floppies, then dist-upgrade to lenny
23:37.53abrotman!tell RedLance1 about etch->lenny
23:38.47RedLance1abrotman: Cool, thanks.
23:39.16olpc-helperhello
23:39.38Hajuu<WhiteRabbit> Hajuu, i run many things including defrag and my pentium 4 extreme edition is as good as it gets.
23:39.53RedLance1abrotman: get boot and root imgs and then do a net install?
23:40.03mesa_boogerolpc-helper: hello
23:40.11kneer0wHi
23:40.16olpc-helperhello
23:40.22olpc-helpercan you help me
23:40.29mouseclone!tell me about sftp
23:40.31abrotmanRedLance1: if your NIC is supported
23:40.32mesa_boogerHajuu: are you sure you have the right network/channel ?
23:40.35abrotman!teell mouseclone about selftell
23:40.46RedLance1abrotman: Ok, thanks
23:40.52abrotmanolpc-helper: i offered to help you in the channel, and that wasn't good enough for you
23:41.09lulzyboyi just went and did what i should have done since day 1
23:41.15lulzyboychanged ide cables and it booted
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23:41.31mesa_booger... and istalled win2000 ?
23:41.39mouseclone!tell me about selftell
23:41.48leogaziohi, is that secure opening ssh port?
23:41.57olpc-helperwhat are you talking about?????????????????????????????????
23:42.32mesa_boogerleogazio: you are pisces and you bank with santander
23:42.54leogaziohan?
23:43.05leogaziono, it's a web server
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23:44.00leogaziomesa_booger: What do u mean?
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23:44.56mesa_boogerleogazio: weel squire, i was rather wondering what the heck you were talking about. so i'm afraid i slipped into a bit of role playing and fantasy
23:45.27mousecloneshould i add my ftp user to the www-data group to be able to upload files to apache root directory?
23:45.40abrotmanleogazio: are you going to leave it open to everyone, or just a few IPs ?
23:46.04leogazioI wanna administrate the server remotally, is that secure?
23:46.25leogaziois that secure leaving opened the 22 port?
23:46.49leogazioabrotman: yes
23:46.53leogazioall
23:46.58abrotmanthat was an "or" question
23:47.32leogaziobecause I'm gonna login from every where
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23:47.50abrotmanleogazio: maybe use a different port(kind of a fallacy), and look at ssh keys
23:48.29leogaziobut if the guy use some portscan he's gonna find my ssh server
23:48.43leogazioeven changin' the port
23:48.53abrotmanonly if he actually tries it .. otherwise he'll just see an open port
23:48.59mesa_boogerwe've already scanned you. and the logs are on the internet ...
23:49.06xororandagrees with abrotman, look at ssh keys and don't allow password-only logins
23:49.07Hajuuportscans leogazio
23:49.28Hajuuwtf password only logins?
23:49.29Hajuu:/
23:49.42leogazioahmm
23:49.46abrotmanHajuu: as opposed to using keys ..
23:50.01Hajuuyeah but even not using keys its user and password
23:50.09abrotmanif you use keys and turn off allowing passwords, a bot attack that sits there and tries passwords isn't going to get very far
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23:50.14xororandHajuu: yes, and that's not very secure
23:50.14Hajuuyou either specify username in the host or you get asked for it
23:50.27Hajuuehhh, its pretty secure
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23:50.31Hajuudepending on your password
23:50.48Eternal_Singood nights
23:50.58Hajuuif your password is 239dxDS3rsdgGSDGGVWDFS3442pp
23:51.04Hajuuits probably secure enough ;)
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23:51.06abrotmancould still be guessed
23:51.09Hajuu...
23:51.12Hajuuguessed lol
23:51.14leogazioif I put a very large key
23:51.15xororandHajuu: maybe if you're the only user
23:51.20leogaziovery large password
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23:51.31xororand.. and don't use the password _anywhere_ else
23:51.31Hajuumeh even if you're not
23:51.36Hajuuyeah
23:51.43abrotmanand only SSH from known good hosts :)
23:51.49Hajuulol....
23:51.53Hajuuyou dont need to go that far
23:52.47abrotmanwhy not?
23:52.55decoabrotman, for multimedia stuff should i use the unofficial multimedia repository ?
23:53.09abrotmandeco: if you want to .. i don't use it, don't really know what
23:53.09leogaziothe problem is that I'm gonna be out for 2 months in japan(far away from here) and need to have access to server
23:53.11abrotmandeco: if you want to .. i don't use it, don't really know what's in it
23:53.15abrotman!tell deco about dmm
23:53.18Hajuuok well say my ssh user is called SK-ADMIN@<host>
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23:53.23Hajuuand my password is 2390fdsboif09gj34g0bxfmboxmgh0jghs0
23:53.30abrotmanleogazio: so put your key on a USB key and take it with you
23:53.31Hajuutheres no way thats going to get comprimised
23:53.35Hajuumultiuser or not.
23:53.41abrotmanFLW
23:53.42Hajuuwith propper permissions
23:53.45leogaziohow can I do it?
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23:53.53abrotman!tell leogazio about ssh keys
23:54.01decoabrotman, thanks
23:54.07Hajuussh keys are however alot easier than entering a password like that
23:54.08Hajuuhaha
23:54.27Hajuukeeping in mind that a username is as good as a password for auth
23:54.32Hajuuif its not a really default name
23:54.53leogazioahm
23:55.04leogaziobut how does ssh key work?
23:55.31leogazioit's different from using login/pass?
23:55.53leogaziohow can I use this in a stick?
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23:57.02Hajuuleogazio: you just have a key file
23:57.06Hajuuand you just take it around with you
23:57.11Hajuuyou can email it to people etc etc
23:57.15Hajuubut thats not recommended
23:57.18Hajuuloll xD
23:57.22leogazioahmm
23:57.43Hajuuit identifies your user, and can also identify your password
23:57.48Hajuubut not directly
23:57.54Hajuuits a very strong encryption
23:57.59Hajuuso you dont need to worry
23:58.02mesa_boogeror even indirectly
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23:58.17Hajuumeh yeah its a 'passkey'
23:58.23Hajuunot *your password*
23:58.24Hajuulol
23:58.35mesa_booger"i can factor large prime products in my head"
23:58.36abrotmanless enter key please
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23:59.40rmacdHas anyone else here had problems with Squid allowing access to localhost, even though "acl deny <rule> all" should take precedence? It is some sort of wacky Debian config?

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