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| 00:00.52 | enouf | xshadowfire: you might want to see the files ./init/Kconfig and ./mm/shmem.c in the kernel source |
| 00:00.59 | tclarke__ | if no ideas...can someone point me to the source repo for apt so I can disect it? |
| 00:01.08 | xshadowfire | derp modifying kernel |
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| 00:04.48 | enouf | xshadowfire: cd /src/of/kernel ; $ find . -exec grep -i TMPFS {} \; (for some real fun :-p) |
| 00:04.59 | xshadowfire | ;___; |
| 00:05.06 | xshadowfire | no thanks |
| 00:05.26 | enouf | add the -l option to the grep :-p |
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| 00:06.14 | Blokk | abrotman: no change :( |
| 00:06.21 | adb | xshadowfire: tmpfs 505M 0 505M 0% /dev/shm ; is same as 'tmpfs 505M 0 505M 0% /lib/init/rw' |
| 00:06.29 | abrotman | Blokk: in dmesg either ? |
| 00:06.34 | enouf | and add | xargs grep -v defconfig to eliminate redunancy a bit |
| 00:07.26 | Blokk | abrotman: nope, same as before |
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| 00:07.35 | abrotman | Blokk: uname -a ? |
| 00:07.50 | abrotman | Blokk: or just configure whichever device it says your NIC is now |
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| 00:08.44 | non_dumb | quick question. my system wont boot. i think a package i installed is causing the conflict. is there a way for me to boot into a parallel installation or a livecd environment and 'uninstall/remove' the offending package with aptitude/apt-get? |
| 00:08.51 | Blokk | abrotman: 2.6.26 |
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| 00:09.11 | abrotman | Blokk: setup your interfaces to work with eth1 or whatever |
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| 00:10.45 | non_dumb | does that even make sense? |
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| 00:16.10 | Blokk | abrotman: that worked perfectly :) thanks! |
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| 00:19.09 | n3kl | non_dumb: just boot a live disk and investigate. errors? |
| 00:19.48 | adama_ | Hi, the file /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles (run daily by /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd) is unable to stat /var/log/kern.log - I can't see any reason why, what should I look for? |
| 00:19.52 | non_dumb | n3kl: not sure where to look to investigate |
| 00:20.02 | non_dumb | i dont have bootlogd running btw |
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| 00:20.31 | n3kl | do you get a kernel panic? "don't" boot is sorta no descript |
| 00:20.33 | squisher | hm, anyone know why wine is lagging behind upstream right now? |
| 00:20.54 | n3kl | squisher: apt-cache show wine, email the maintainer |
| 00:21.37 | squisher | n3kl, ah, experimental is pretty up-to-date |
| 00:22.04 | n3kl | "pretty" is relative |
| 00:22.20 | n3kl | squisher: whats the version difference? |
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| 00:22.29 | squisher | 1.0.1 vs. 1.1.22 |
| 00:22.40 | squisher | wonders where he got 1.1.5 from... |
| 00:22.41 | \amethyst | lenny has the latest stable wine release |
| 00:22.45 | n3kl | squisher: you could always compile it yourself |
| 00:22.53 | squisher | \amethyst, I'm on sid though |
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| 00:23.08 | squisher | n3kl, winehq packages their own versions, I could use those too, but somehow I'd rather stay with the debian ones |
| 00:23.11 | non_dumb | sorry. i'm using encrypted lvm. right before my hdd is recognized and i enter my passphrase the boot just stops. i can produce text on the screen and i can restart with Ctrl+Alt+Delete, but nothing else |
| 00:23.14 | n3kl | squisher: wine stable, not debian stable |
| 00:23.40 | non_dumb | where would i look to detirmine what could be causing the problem? |
| 00:23.50 | non_dumb | is there a log of what is happening during boot? |
| 00:23.51 | n3kl | non_dumb: what is the message that it tells you? Waiting for root device? Unlock successfull? Which volume? Swap or root? |
| 00:24.11 | n3kl | non_dumb: all the text on teh screen will tell you, post a photo if you must |
| 00:24.24 | non_dumb | root, ... it's been over a week. dont remember the message. just a sec |
| 00:24.31 | non_dumb | lemme look |
| 00:24.39 | n3kl | non_dumb: dmesg if you can get your system to boot, or /var/log/dmesg with a livecd |
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| 00:25.18 | n3kl | non_dumb: wait, so you had this issue a week ago, and you haven't troubleshot before you come in here? Give it another rundown and see if you can pull usefull information from teh screen |
| 00:27.10 | squisher | thanks \amethyst, n3kl |
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| 00:27.24 | non_dumb | n3kl:brb |
| 00:27.43 | n3kl | squisher: doesn't wine have a deb source? |
| 00:28.14 | squisher | n3kl, experimental is only one release behind. .23 only came out ~2 weeks ago |
| 00:28.15 | n3kl | squisher: its been a year since I've used wine, but I remember them being pretty stable |
| 00:28.18 | squisher | no need for that |
| 00:28.25 | n3kl | kewl |
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| 00:38.52 | jake[work] | ntp offset is showing -95070. any ideas to fix? |
| 00:39.33 | nooper | ntpdate shows the offset as it is fixing it, afaik |
| 00:39.59 | jake[work] | seems like it's getting worse: -287566 |
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| 00:49.10 | non_dumb | back |
| 00:49.24 | non_dumb | device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3 |
| 00:49.24 | non_dumb | device-mapper: ioctl: 4.12.0-ioctl (2007-10-02) initialised: dm-devel@redha= |
| 00:49.24 | non_dumb | t.com |
| 00:49.44 | non_dumb | those are the last two lines on the screen. then it just stops there |
| 00:50.02 | non_dumb | it doesn't freeze. if it type on my keyboard the it shows up on the system |
| 00:50.21 | non_dumb | before that are messages about my usb devices |
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| 00:57.22 | non_dumb | n3kl: another thing. at some point about half way through booting, my screen goes blank for a second. it's completely filled with text scrolling past then it blanks and then text resumes output to screen as though Ctrl+l had ben pressed: from the top. |
| 00:57.32 | non_dumb | i'm working on those logs now |
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| 01:00.38 | jake[work] | it looks like my system clock is running exactly twice as fast - the hwclock is fine though |
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| 01:06.37 | s1kx | can i somehow use packages like libapache2-svn when i have compiled apache2 myself? |
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| 01:11.40 | SuperMiguel | u need to install a wpa deamon to work with wireless? |
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| 01:16.10 | n3kl | non_dumb: whats your menu.lst file look like? |
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| 01:16.43 | n3kl | jake[work]: stop ntp, use ntpdate to set your clock, then fire back up ntp and see what happens |
| 01:17.23 | non_dumb | n3kl: it has an entry for 2.6.26, 2.6.26 single-user, 2.6.18, and 2.6.18 single-user and one for OTHEROS that i never quite got to work right. the OTHEROS entry is the only modification i made to it myself. |
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| 01:20.45 | non_dumb | nk3l: why? |
| 01:21.08 | n3kl | non_dumb: do you need a root= option in your menu.list |
| 01:21.57 | non_dumb | n3kl: i've never had to manually edit my menu.list file |
| 01:23.02 | epsilon | I can mount NTFS partition with mount /dev/hda1 /mnt, but read-only... but mount tells me it's mounted as rw, did I miss something? (running lenny, fuse, ntfs-3g packages are installed) |
| 01:23.20 | non_dumb | why do you say it's read only? |
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| 01:24.14 | non_dumb | n3kl: idk |
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| 01:24.49 | epsilon | if I try to write, I get permission error |
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| 01:25.38 | bpun | i'm doing a netinst.iso install .. still awaiting 'Getting the time ..." ,, can the the thing cancel after 2 minutes? |
| 01:25.44 | non_dumb | epsilon: so you mount it as root or using sudo. then you try to access it as a regular user |
| 01:25.57 | bpun | oops i did the double the! |
| 01:25.58 | epsilon | no, all as root |
| 01:25.59 | non_dumb | the regular user does not have write permission to the device in your situation |
| 01:26.03 | non_dumb | oh. |
| 01:26.11 | non_dumb | what is the permission of the file |
| 01:26.19 | non_dumb | *device |
| 01:26.59 | epsilon | mount tells me: /dev/hda1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw) |
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| 01:27.29 | non_dumb | what does ls -l tell you? |
| 01:27.38 | non_dumb | for that mountpoint? |
| 01:27.58 | non_dumb | /dev/hda1 is not mounted at /mnt is it? |
| 01:28.02 | epsilon | oh wait, with -t ntfs-3g it works... |
| 01:28.12 | epsilon | tricky |
| 01:28.23 | non_dumb | yeah. you need that part |
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| 01:32.33 | THE_GFR|WORK | how do you get xwindows to start automatically? |
| 01:32.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | or GDM or whatever |
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| 01:33.46 | adb | install gdm ? |
| 01:33.59 | THE_GFR|WORK | gdm is installed |
| 01:34.12 | THE_GFR|WORK | I think |
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| 01:35.03 | bpun | ntfs-3g is disgusting |
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| 01:35.28 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, file /etc/init.d/gdm says if file exists |
| 01:35.58 | THE_GFR|WORK | first of before that how do I disable the DHCP so it does not overwrite the resolve.conf file? |
| 01:36.22 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun thanks |
| 01:36.32 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, edit ur dhcp conf file and choose not to resolve dns address.. |
| 01:36.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | ah |
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| 01:36.46 | THE_GFR|WORK | where is that? I have a dhcp3 folder |
| 01:36.56 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, man dhcp_options < probably.. check ur dhcp client document.. |
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| 01:38.27 | epsilon | bpun: are there any alternatives? |
| 01:38.49 | Mikaze | Anyone ever hear of the CLI prompt being repeated two extra times? Can't seem to nail down why it happens sometimes and sometimes not. Running Squeeze, if that helps, and it just started about two days ago. |
| 01:39.06 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, actually its "man dhcp-options" |
| 01:39.16 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm |
| 01:39.41 | dondelelcaro | Mikaze: you'd have to tell us exactly what you're doing |
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| 01:40.03 | Mikaze | Happened once when exiting mutt, and another when exiting an sudo aptitude upgrade |
| 01:40.28 | non_dumb | will dmesg tell me everything that bootlogd could? |
| 01:41.23 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, i believe u want 'option domain-name servers' .. am looking at the doc currently.. |
| 01:41.57 | adb | non_dumb: edit /etc/default/bootlogd |
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| 01:42.47 | adb | change ...=no to ...= yes |
| 01:42.49 | non_dumb | adb: thank you |
| 01:42.51 | non_dumb | yeah |
| 01:43.16 | bpun | !override dns |
| 01:43.17 | dpkg | To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supercede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d;" >> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. |
| 01:43.28 | SuperMiguel | is there a way to benchmark my network? to see if my wireless is faster than my wired? |
| 01:43.32 | SuperMiguel | can i use netperf for that? |
| 01:43.37 | bpun | probably that's more appropriate for what THE_GFR|WORK is asking.. |
| 01:44.14 | n3kl | SuperMiguel: you could use dd and nc maybe |
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| 01:44.31 | n3kl | I don't know netperf |
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| 01:44.45 | SuperMiguel | is there a network benchmark? to see whats faster my wlan or my wired? |
| 01:45.13 | THE_GFR|WORK | well |
| 01:45.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | my problem is I have a static IP set for this machine I can't have the dhcp server overwrite the resolve.conf EVER |
| 01:46.32 | Mikaze | Running the resolvconf package? |
| 01:46.45 | epsilon | THE_GFR|WORK: you have static IP/DNS/Routing? |
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| 01:47.07 | THE_GFR|WORK | epsilon: static IP but I have static DNS I guess too |
| 01:47.09 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, just turn off any dhcp-client services that might startup.. check ur interfaces file |
| 01:47.14 | epsilon | is there any reason why you run dhcp-client at all? |
| 01:47.35 | THE_GFR|WORK | epsilon: I'm trying not to... just upgraded to lenny and it's causing havoc with stuff |
| 01:47.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun: I don't know how... |
| 01:47.56 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, turn off networkmanager.. and just keep network service |
| 01:48.07 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, man interfaces |
| 01:48.08 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun: how? |
| 01:48.08 | epsilon | just edit you ifconfig and give static address instead dhcp... |
| 01:48.27 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, mind me saying this but u have to rtfm sometimes |
| 01:48.30 | THE_GFR|WORK | epsilon: I did that but resolve.conf is still getting overwritten |
| 01:48.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun: I have but it does not help |
| 01:48.44 | epsilon | ah, you use networkmanager, that explains your problem |
| 01:48.56 | THE_GFR|WORK | hmm |
| 01:49.00 | THE_GFR|WORK | I do? |
| 01:49.04 | epsilon | turn the damn thing off for a better world |
| 01:49.05 | Mikaze | Read the networking section of the Debian Reference Guide. |
| 01:49.06 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, maybe u want to ask why u dont want to help urself.. |
| 01:49.18 | ranix | bpun: stop being obnoxious |
| 01:49.25 | ranix | !tell bpun -about u |
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| 01:50.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | well how do I disable the resolve.conf from being overwritten |
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| 01:51.35 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, by doing the first thing i told u |
| 01:51.46 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, man dhcp-options << everyone can see that i told u |
| 01:51.57 | THE_GFR|WORK | I looked there how does that even help me ? |
| 01:52.03 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, I even gave 2 other examples.. u edit the dhcp client conf file |
| 01:52.06 | THE_GFR|WORK | I don't know where to begin with that I need a little more help |
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| 01:52.12 | Mikaze | dhcpd overwrites resolv.conf. |
| 01:52.26 | THE_GFR|WORK | Mikaze: how do I stop it from doing this? |
| 01:52.31 | bpun | well |
| 01:52.42 | bpun | i already said later to check any dhcp client running services.. |
| 01:52.47 | bpun | that's a 4th.. |
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| 01:52.53 | bpun | if he cant edit files.. it's his problem |
| 01:52.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | I don't know how to do that bpun |
| 01:53.09 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun: I know how to edit files just not which ones or what to add where |
| 01:53.20 | Mikaze | Read the debian reference guide under the networking section and see how Debian handles networking. |
| 01:53.50 | THE_GFR|WORK | Mikaze: could you just tell me how to disable the dhcp from overwriting the resolv.conf please? |
| 01:53.57 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, how do u know ur system is set to static ip? since u're already saying it.. |
| 01:54.06 | ranix | bpun: knock it the fuck off |
| 01:54.07 | ranix | !u |
| 01:54.07 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:54.34 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun: I set it to a static IP |
| 01:54.45 | bpun | ranix, i can type like i want.. seems like u need to go out and get "urself" a realy girlfriend than ur little computer |
| 01:54.50 | Mikaze | hasn't researched that topic as yet, so I really couldn't guide you. I can just advis |
| 01:54.53 | Mikaze | e you |
| 01:54.58 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, you set "it"<< what is "it ? |
| 01:55.10 | ranix | bpun: this is a support channel, stop harassing the people asking questions |
| 01:55.18 | ranix | THE_GFR|WORK: ignore him, I'm looking into it for you |
| 01:55.20 | THE_GFR|WORK | bpun: I set the debian system to a STATIC IP |
| 01:55.25 | bpun | ok then.. |
| 01:55.29 | ranix | he's trolling the shit out of you |
| 01:55.34 | bpun | let ur stranger helper u |
| 01:55.51 | Mikaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.51 | bpun | doesnt fiddle with needles and tongues |
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| 01:56.41 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 01:57.23 | superlinux | how can i force my domain name be updated on just on time? |
| 01:57.51 | Mikaze | Or 'apropos dhcp' and 'apropos dhcp' for sources of information |
| 01:58.11 | bpun | superlinux, u mean like ddns ? |
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| 01:58.58 | kenjy | hi guys, Im trying to upgrade from etch to lenny following the documentation http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-process but I can't do aptitude upgrade because I got this error: http://nopaste.org/p/aI1LDe0fq |
| 01:59.04 | Mikaze | Or even 'apropos dhcp". |
| 01:59.07 | kenjy | can you help me? |
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| 01:59.43 | superlinux | i have just found a free DNS server online. now i can get my hostname IP when i specify them for nslookup. however i dont want to wait long to have it updated. |
| 01:59.55 | superlinux | updated world wide |
| 02:00.06 | adb | kenjy: there said ... use "safe-upgrade" instead. |
| 02:00.14 | superlinux | bpun: that |
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| 02:00.24 | superlinux | bpun: that's what i mean |
| 02:00.31 | bpun | superlinux, what's the service? |
| 02:00.43 | bpun | superlinux, changeip.com ? |
| 02:00.43 | ranix | THE_GFR|WORK: check this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-409110.html (ubuntu forums, but just bear with it, we use the same version of dhclient) |
| 02:00.48 | superlinux | no |
| 02:00.53 | ranix | THE_GFR|WORK: you want to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 02:01.03 | bpun | THE_GFR|WORK, try to avoid ubuntu docs.. stick with debian ones.. |
| 02:01.04 | superlinux | editdns.net |
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| 02:01.10 | nuscire | hi. anyone use java here? the fonts in my java-based application look rather ugly. it seems as if without antialiasing. I googled a while, no luck. so, any advise? |
| 02:01.19 | superlinux | they give full DNS free |
| 02:01.22 | THE_GFR|WORK | ranix: ok I understand but what do I need to change in there? |
| 02:01.28 | ranix | THE_GFR|WORK: follow Mikaze's advice for manpages also if you need more info on dhclient.conf |
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| 02:01.36 | kenjy | adb: same error http://pastebin.com/m63076675 |
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| 02:03.24 | kenjy | adb: can you tell me where say safe-upgrade here? http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-process |
| 02:03.54 | bpun | superlinux, ddns has been free for many years.. maybe u want something where a script is already available for it.. |
| 02:04.04 | adb | !etch->lenny |
| 02:04.26 | bpun | nuscire, are u using gcj or sun's? |
| 02:04.27 | adb | dpkg> Read the release notes, ask me about <lenny release notes>. Ensure your Etch installation is up to date (aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of "etch" to "lenny". aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask about <apt-listbugs>, <etch->lenny key>. |
| 02:04.28 | dpkg | adb: what are you talking about? |
| 02:04.47 | adb | kenjy: ^^ |
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| 02:05.06 | kenjy | adb: ¬¬ |
| 02:05.11 | nuscire | bpun: hi. I'm using openJDK. |
| 02:05.15 | bpun | nuscire, there's also java fonts packages.. dunno if that helps.. |
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| 02:05.31 | kenjy | can you help me guys? |
| 02:05.35 | bpun | nuscire, i dont develop openjdk.. sorry cant help u there |
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| 02:06.06 | nuscire | bpun: sun's maybe better? |
| 02:06.09 | ddbchina | ; |
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| 02:06.16 | bpun | nuscire, maybe u just want jre... |
| 02:06.23 | bpun | nuscire, didnt need to get jdk.. |
| 02:06.57 | nuscire | bpun: yes, i just need jre. i dont kown much about java. |
| 02:07.12 | bpun | nuscire, sun-java5-jre and sun-java6-jre show up in my search list.. |
| 02:07.25 | superlinux | bpun: i have bought my own. but those whom i bought from give a separate domain name hosting |
| 02:07.26 | bpun | nuscire, apt-get install sun-java6 .. uninstall openjdk... |
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| 02:07.56 | nuscire | bpun: okay, i'm trying. thank you. |
| 02:08.12 | bpun | nuscire, apt-get install sun-java6-jre actually .. |
| 02:08.16 | adb | kenjy: remove bash-completion |
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| 02:08.44 | nuscire | bpun: jre short for? |
| 02:08.48 | bpun | nuscire, if the java app fails.. check the alternatives symlink with update-alternatives list java |
| 02:09.02 | ZitZ | anyone here know what a multiply-claimed block is? |
| 02:09.09 | bpun | nuscire, java runtime environment.. jdk is 'java development kit' .. |
| 02:09.36 | bpun | nuscire, u can often run java stuff with jdk's.. but can be much bigger in disk space.. |
| 02:09.49 | nuscire | bpun: okay, i see. thank you very much. |
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| 02:09.53 | bpun | (since at times jdks include themselves the jre) |
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| 02:12.50 | nvz | !test |
| 02:12.51 | dpkg | Test Failed. |
| 02:12.55 | nvz | thought so |
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| 02:17.01 | o2T7 | I am doing some writing about Debian's packaging system. Where could I find some descriptions for .diff.gz, .dsc and .changes files? |
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| 02:17.32 | nuscire | i also have a question. in the debian repository, non-free means not free as in free speech, but it does be free as in free bear, am I right? |
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| 02:18.39 | bpun | o2T7, probably in the document manifesto |
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| 02:19.00 | bpun | o2T7, should be in debian.org/doc somewhere |
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| 02:19.53 | iluminator101 | Whats the best way to install Apache,mysql,php all at once, apt or xampp on debian squeeze for developmental purposes? |
| 02:20.12 | o2T7 | bpun: you're right, it is in NM guide. Thanks |
| 02:20.13 | abrotman | aptitude install apache2 libapache2-php5 php5-mysql |
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| 02:20.20 | abrotman | actually .. just the last two should do it |
| 02:21.10 | dondelelcaro | the only thing that actually has a format is the .dsc and .changes files; the diff.gz is just a compressed unidiff. |
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| 02:21.44 | iluminator101 | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "libapache2-php5"?? |
| 02:21.56 | o2T7 | dondelelcaro: precisely that two formats are what I can't find |
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| 02:22.42 | o2T7 | I can explain what a .diff.gz is, but I do not dare to make a too simple description of the other two |
| 02:22.45 | bpun | iluminator101, the best way to install apache with/mysql/php is to install each individually.. |
| 02:22.53 | Bhavic | Anyone know what codec i need to play most .mkv vids in divx |
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| 02:23.06 | bpun | iluminator101, it's easier to customize settings that way.. |
| 02:23.30 | iluminator101 | thanks guys |
| 02:23.59 | o2T7 | Oh, I found it: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html |
| 02:24.00 | dondelelcaro | o2T7: generally you don't care about the format of the .dsc and .changes files, though |
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| 02:25.05 | dondelelcaro | o2T7: as far as packaging goes, the only thing that matters is debian/control and debian/changelog; the .dsc and .changes are built automatically. |
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| 02:25.13 | nuscire | bpun: okay, the font looks much better with sun-java6-jre. thanks again. |
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| 02:26.01 | o2T7 | dondelelcaro: true, I've just read that dpkg generates them when building the deb package |
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| 02:27.01 | dondelelcaro | o2T7: what exactly are you writing about? |
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| 02:28.04 | o2T7 | dondelelcaro: It's just a memo about an integrated project. Detailing the implementation of an application and its packaging for debian. |
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| 02:34.43 | o2T7 | dondelelcaro: memo for ITP #528139 |
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| 02:38.11 | akahn | Hi, I'm having an issue on my machine where I can't install packages due to broken dependencies. It has to do with perl, liblocale-gettext-perl, perlapi, etc. |
| 02:38.17 | akahn | How do I resolve these broken dependencies? |
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| 02:38.49 | Devrethman | What package do I need to be able to mount CIFS |
| 02:38.51 | Devrethman | ? |
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| 02:42.01 | o2T7 | Devrethman: I'm not sure but, did you try smbclient? |
| 02:42.44 | o2T7 | Devrethman: if that works, perhaps smb-common will be enough |
| 02:42.47 | akahn | What is a held package? |
| 02:42.58 | Devrethman | 02t7: I'll try that, uust a sec |
| 02:43.01 | abrotman | !held back |
| 02:43.02 | dpkg | methinks kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "dist-upgrade" and new packages need to be installed. To investigate, "apt-get -s install <kept-package>". Also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 Ask me about <dist-upgrade>. |
| 02:43.47 | akahn | !dist-upgrade |
| 02:43.48 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; in lenny, aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. Also see <why not dist-upgrade> <sarge->etch> <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze> <full-upgrade> |
| 02:45.05 | o2T7 | akahn: You can /msg dpkg dist-upgrade too |
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| 02:47.36 | akahn | here's the message I get: http://pastebin.com/m3f199092 . using -f doesn't help. perl -v says that 5.10 is installed despite what apt-get says |
| 02:48.56 | Devrethman | Found it, for future reference, it's in smbfs |
| 02:49.17 | akahn | abrotman, o2T7, any ideas on this? |
| 02:49.43 | abrotman | akahn: you're mixing versions of debian |
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| 02:50.24 | Gnurdux | Off topic: is anyone here who has Comcast as their ISP having extremely slow internet right now? |
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| 02:50.42 | bpun | akahn, apt-get install -f ? |
| 02:50.53 | abrotman | Gnurdux: define slow? |
| 02:51.14 | Gnurdux | DNS sometimes takes so long that Firefox sees it as a timeout; same goes with connection |
| 02:51.35 | bpun | Gnurdux, call them up and tell them, you've been thinking about changing isp's.. they'll thrown in some bandwidth.. |
| 02:51.39 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 02:51.39 | akahn | bpun: i get similar errors about unmet perl dependencies and Error, pkgPRoblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, maybe caused by held packages. Unable to correct dependencies |
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| 02:51.44 | Gnurdux | its not a bandwidth issue |
| 02:51.54 | akahn | abrotman: is there a way to force the system back to a particular version? |
| 02:51.58 | Gnurdux | in fact, when i can get to a speedtest it has plenty of bandwidth |
| 02:52.01 | Gnurdux | the system is broken |
| 02:52.14 | Gnurdux | when i called them i got a recording that they know there is a partial outage |
| 02:52.18 | jrdave | hey guys, on my debian lenny laptop, and after doing a normal update under gnome, X.Org was updated, and now I cant boot into X. What can I do to fix the problem? |
| 02:52.21 | Gnurdux | but i'm curious how widespread it is |
| 02:52.31 | abrotman | Gnurdux: sounds like a latency issue .. and not related to Debian .. try mtr, call comcast |
| 02:52.49 | bpun | Gnurdux, so there's a shortage probably on their routing system.. it's probably a reason why.. |
| 02:52.52 | Gnurdux | it's not a normal latency issue |
| 02:53.04 | Gnurdux | for instance, Xchat reports my latency as .1 seconds right now |
| 02:53.12 | Gnurdux | i think it only happens when *getting new connections* |
| 02:53.42 | Gnurdux | --- google.com ping statistics --- 236 packets transmitted, 22 received, 90% packet loss, time 235120ms |
| 02:53.46 | Gnurdux | that's also sort of weird |
| 02:53.47 | bpun | Gnurdux, have u tried debian live cd? |
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| 02:53.51 | abrotman | Gnurdux: *call comcast* |
| 02:54.05 | jrdave | the xorg.conf has been overwritten by the generic one by XOrg |
| 02:54.06 | Gnurdux | k, i'll stop bothering this channel :) |
| 02:54.19 | abrotman | Gnurdux: if you're not losing packets to your router, it's out of your control |
| 02:54.38 | bpun | Gnurdux, maybe your ethernet jack loosened.. check for any crosswiring.. |
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| 02:54.43 | devD | I always wanted to install Debian in my machine but whenever I go to download page, there are 5 DVD to download , Do I need to download them all? |
| 02:54.50 | abrotman | !d-i devD |
| 02:54.51 | dpkg | devD, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ |
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| 02:59.55 | lostson | devD: why not just use the netinstall image? |
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| 03:02.34 | gaga | fdf |
| 03:02.37 | gaga | !help |
| 03:02.48 | devD | lostson, what is netinstall image? |
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| 03:03.20 | lostson | devD: it is a small iso that uses the internet to install debian instead of having to download huge dvd iso's |
| 03:03.34 | devD | just tell me in this page which should be downloaded ?http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/bt-dvd/ |
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| 03:03.54 | enouf | !netinstall |
| 03:03.54 | dpkg | hmm... netinst is a small CD image which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but the connection is not required for a base install to complete. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and ask me about <check iso image>. If you use a dial-up connection, ask me about <dialup install>. See also <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>. |
| 03:04.25 | devD | lok |
| 03:05.01 | ajavid | huh |
| 03:05.06 | devD | if I can do a base install by netinstall than its good. I am going to download that. |
| 03:05.11 | enouf | check that the md5 or shaNNNsums match prior to burning, then burn image, then boot it - read the Installation Guide |
| 03:05.15 | ajavid | enouf, I talked to him |
| 03:05.28 | lostson | devD: yes you can do a base install with the netinstall image |
| 03:05.47 | enouf | ajavid: over to -chat |
| 03:06.22 | devD | enouf, lostson dpkg thanks |
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| 03:08.32 | lostson | devD: glad to help |
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| 03:10.38 | DVA5913 | Where are theme files stored? |
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| 03:10.56 | tonytraductor | themes for what? |
| 03:11.04 | DVA5913 | GDM |
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| 03:11.48 | devD | lostson, but I read one in the page suggested by dpkg that wlan card doesn,t support during installation by netinstall. I use internet through wlan. |
| 03:12.04 | enouf | !installer firmware |
| 03:12.04 | dpkg | The Lenny installer is able to load extra (non-free) <firmware> either by adding it to the installation media or from a USB stick. See http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch06s04.html , http://dannf.org/bloggf/tech/add-firmware-to.html and http://people.debian.org/~dannf/add-firmware-to/add-firmware-to . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware |
| 03:12.20 | DVA5913 | tonytraductor: ? Do you know where? |
| 03:12.29 | fortax | so where would i look for clues as to why my system will not boot? |
| 03:12.33 | enouf | devD: ^^^^ and note; netboot is not netinstaller |
| 03:13.36 | fortax | running lenny. problem just started a little while ago |
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| 03:13.42 | tonytraductor | GDM themes?/usr/share/gdm/themes |
| 03:13.45 | nick_h | if /etc/cron.hourly/get_keyword_google_results exists, why would "sudo run-parts --verbose --report /etc/cron.hourly/" not run the jobs in that file? |
| 03:14.16 | tonytraductor | there is a gui interface to change the theme, but I don't remember what it's called, at the moment.... |
| 03:14.40 | dantheman | Im trying to do a total customization |
| 03:14.53 | dantheman | login screen theme, and even boot image |
| 03:15.25 | fortax | usplash |
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| 03:17.37 | MADDDD | hey anyone know how to only enter a password once for multi luksopens (same pass)? |
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| 03:18.10 | MADDDD | if i string em all together with && i stil get asked the pass a number of times |
| 03:19.15 | jrdave | anybody knows how opensolaris compares to debian in terms of performance? |
| 03:19.32 | enouf | nick_h: is /etc/cron.hourly/get_keyword_google_results chmod +x ? |
| 03:20.07 | enouf | did you create that file? use root, or sudo sh -c "... ..." |
| 03:21.18 | enouf | jrdave: debian is better, ask in #opensolaris, and they'll say opensolaris is .. happy? |
| 03:21.36 | jrdave | enouf: I see |
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| 03:23.01 | enouf | install them both, try them out for yourself is my real answer |
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| 03:24.31 | tonytraductor | I've downloaded opensolaris isos twice now, and still never have gotten around to burning the iso to disc and trying it out |
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| 03:24.58 | tonytraductor | thereÅ no livecd opensolaris, is there? either I've got to make some room and install it, or just give the idea up entirely |
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| 03:26.09 | umarzuki | hi, with gddrescue, can i dump an image of source larger than destination drive and it will still bootable? |
| 03:26.48 | umarzuki | can i somhow repartition the image or something to make it fit with the destination? |
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| 03:32.12 | grnmtn | hello debianers |
| 03:32.36 | grnmtn | does the RC1 lenny netinst CD still work, or does it conflict with the final repos? |
| 03:32.57 | tonytraductor | debianers...I find that odd...could we be "debianos" (or debianas, depending on gender) |
| 03:33.07 | tonytraductor | never mind me |
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| 03:33.10 | grnmtn | debianistas? |
| 03:33.20 | grnmtn | deb-ians? |
| 03:33.21 | tonytraductor | aha, debianista! I like that |
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| 03:33.47 | adb | debianVista |
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| 03:33.53 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 03:33.57 | grnmtn | adb: i'll pass on that one |
| 03:33.58 | adb | go |
| 03:34.05 | grnmtn | anyone have an answer for me? |
| 03:34.23 | adb | yes |
| 03:34.49 | grnmtn | I suppose I could stop being lazy and just download and burn final lenny iso also |
| 03:35.03 | o2T7 | debianitas |
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| 03:35.13 | johnfg | Everytime I first start up evolution (running lenny) I get the annoying dialogue box: Enter password for default keyring to unlock. |
| 03:35.19 | adb | grnmtn: i said yes |
| 03:35.37 | grnmtn | adb: oh, and what is it? |
| 03:35.54 | adb | what is it? what ? |
| 03:35.55 | tonytraductor | johnfg: use mutt |
| 03:35.58 | johnfg | The application 'evolution' wants access to the default keyring and it is locked. |
| 03:36.10 | grnmtn | I see this is going nowhere fast . . . |
| 03:36.38 | tonytraductor | just an idea...I guess if you use the evo calendar and other stuff, mutt alone is not the answer |
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| 03:37.06 | o2T7 | tonytraductor: if keyring annoys ... mutt beats :) |
| 03:37.21 | lostson | yeah but you dont have to use the keyring |
| 03:37.30 | grnmtn | use mutt . . . what a useful answer . . . screw it, I'll install arch instead, their channel is more helpful |
| 03:37.31 | grnmtn | adios |
| 03:37.40 | lostson | and if your password for your keyring is the same as your login passwd then it only asks once |
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| 03:37.56 | lostson | ouch a disgruntled customer |
| 03:38.01 | o2T7 | heh |
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| 03:38.31 | tonytraductor | gosh, I didn't mean to offend |
| 03:39.03 | o2T7 | yeah, mutt rocks, I used evolution for a bit time, also others. Now mutt delights my mails ;) |
| 03:39.34 | tonytraductor | I've never used evo, really, besides trying it out for a few minutes |
| 03:39.41 | lostson | i still use evo i like the calendar and other useful tools it provides |
| 03:40.10 | tonytraductor | but have just recently started using mutt...otherwise I've always used mozilla, t-bird, seamonkey, icedove, etc. |
| 03:40.15 | o2T7 | lostson: for that sort of things I think that kontact is better |
| 03:40.17 | burd | i used evo for quite a while and enjoyed it but it changed there at some point and i didnt like it |
| 03:40.21 | johnfg | Well, I've used evolution for a long time, too, and it doesn't always ask for this, e.g., in fedora. Anyone know how to change the behavior? |
| 03:40.29 | tonytraductor | I've tried kontact, too, but didn't like that either |
| 03:40.33 | burd | now i just use thunderbird |
| 03:40.35 | lostson | o2T7: thats the great thing about linux its all about choice |
| 03:40.48 | o2T7 | yeah :) |
| 03:40.50 | tonytraductor | now I just use mutt with gmail via imap, and my google calendar with gcalcli |
| 03:40.59 | johnfg | Will mutt allow you to use openldap for your contacts? |
| 03:41.02 | tonytraductor | right on....lotso choices |
| 03:41.04 | burd | lostson: for sure |
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| 03:41.20 | damentz | tonytraductor, what about alpine? |
| 03:41.22 | damentz | i prefer alpine to mutt |
| 03:41.26 | o2T7 | johnfg: probably, as it supports imap |
| 03:41.34 | tonytraductor | I used seamonkey for quite some time, but since I wasn't using the irc and composer features, eventually switched, but seamonkey is faster than FF |
| 03:41.38 | Mac101 | hey anyone know how to only enter a password once for multi luksopens (same pass)? |
| 03:41.45 | tonytraductor | I haven't tried alpine |
| 03:41.48 | lostson | try them all find the one that suits you best |
| 03:42.13 | burd | yah thats the idea and half the fun is testing all you options and playing with them |
| 03:42.23 | tonytraductor | tried all the mozilla products, kontact, evo, slypheed, kmail |
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| 03:43.00 | tonytraductor | but I don't use a DE anymore, just ion3 wm, so don't want/need anything integrated with a DE |
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| 03:43.37 | o2T7 | most of them can be used standalone |
| 03:44.20 | tonytraductor | oh yeah, I know, but I think all the kde ones want to load kwallet and some knotifier and tonso other crap, and evo is pretty bloated...lotso useful features, but bloated, imho |
| 03:44.56 | tonytraductor | I still use icedove sometimes |
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| 03:46.04 | johnfg | Just looked at mutt (already installed) through synaptic, and wonder, is it a text only mail program? |
| 03:46.20 | lostson | yes |
| 03:46.21 | johnfg | I'm in tty1 right now using irssi, so np, but just wondered. |
| 03:46.29 | tonytraductor | yeah, text only, console mail program |
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| 03:47.14 | tonytraductor | I find myself using more and more cli stuff...mocp to listen to tunes, mutt, etc. |
| 03:47.14 | tonytraductor | irssi |
| 03:47.28 | umarzuki | using ddrescue, how do i make sure that a image of 73 GB drive (space used less than 200 MB) can be dumped onto 4.3 GB drive. The reason is it's bootable (the source) |
| 03:47.30 | o2T7 | tonytraductor: your mouse will live longer |
| 03:47.32 | tonytraductor | when I started using gnu/linux I needed all the kde gui bloat, but now I think it gets in the way |
| 03:47.59 | tonytraductor | yeah, but I have to buy a new keyboard once a year...wear them out |
| 03:48.08 | tonytraductor | but that's from my work, typing translations all day |
| 03:48.25 | o2T7 | desde/al español, supongo |
| 03:48.29 | burd | what languages do you translate? |
| 03:48.46 | tonytraductor | Portuguese, spanish, french to English |
| 03:48.59 | burd | neat.. |
| 03:49.13 | burd | are you doing it for the debian project? |
| 03:49.25 | tonytraductor | today i was translating documents from colombia on hiv prevention programs |
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| 03:50.06 | tonytraductor | the thing is, something like 99% of foss l10n projects need translation From English TO the foreign languages, and English is my native language, so I don't, in general, translate to the other languages, only from |
| 03:50.16 | tonytraductor | aunque puedo hablarlos y escribirlos bien |
| 03:51.48 | burd | interesting welp i'm out gotta go back to the code mine early tomorrow.. nice chatting |
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| 03:53.40 | tonytraductor | I was the l10n coordinator for the OmegaT project for a while |
| 03:54.22 | karlpinc | Is an mv of a directory an atomic operation, in that if I mv at the same time I'm, say, backing up with tar, is there any possiblity of not getting the mv-ed directory on the backup? (Assumeing that I'm mv-ing to the same filesystem.) |
| 03:56.32 | o2T7 | karlpinc: you can lose it |
| 03:57.13 | o2T7 | karlpinc: Anyway, with that example, your question is if tar blocks the source |
| 03:57.44 | o2T7 | s/if/whether/ |
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| 03:58.52 | tonytraductor | karlpinc: you may end up with two copies of that dir in the backup |
| 03:59.12 | tonytraductor | depending on various factors, of course |
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| 03:59.40 | tonytraductor | for instance if you are rsync-ing one disk to another, and that dir was already copied, then you mv it, it could be copied again |
| 03:59.56 | o2T7 | Well, guys, see you (it's GMT+1 here:) |
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| 04:02.12 | karlpinc | Two copies are no problem, just so long as I get all of one. |
| 04:02.53 | karlpinc | Anyhow, I'm thinking of mv-ing the dir into the same dir, just changing it's name. |
| 04:03.31 | umarzuki | how do i clone partition table or a disk to another just to make it bootable as if the source? |
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| 04:03.38 | tonytraductor | I would wait until the backup is complete, then rename/mv it on both discs, or do it before starting the backup, of course |
| 04:04.08 | karlpinc | umarzuki : The dd command copies exactly. But that may not be what you want. |
| 04:04.48 | karlpinc | tonytraductor : I'm looking for a solution that does not have to coordinate with backup time. |
| 04:05.29 | tonytraductor | ah... |
| 04:05.57 | umarzuki | karlpinc: even if i use ddrescue, it may just copied the first 4.3 GB onto 4.3 GB destination |
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| 04:06.13 | karlpinc | umarzuki : You may want to use sfdisk to clone the partition table, or cfdisk or some such to make a new partition table and then re-install the boot loader. (info grub is your friend.) |
| 04:06.41 | karlpinc | umarzuki : I don't know what ddrescue is. I'm talking about dd, the commmand line tool. |
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| 04:07.08 | umarzuki | karlpinc: ddrescue is a bit faster than dd and supports resuming |
| 04:07.28 | umarzuki | karlpinc: it also can skip bad sector |
| 04:07.29 | karlpinc | umarzuki : You would, of course, not want any mounted filesystems on the disk you are copying. So you may need to boot off a live cd or some such as a first step. |
| 04:08.46 | umarzuki | karlpinc: so i ise sfdisk to copy the partition table, dump it into the destination the resize? |
| 04:08.51 | karlpinc | umarzuki : Yes, if the disk you are copying onto is larger, then you'll have unpartitioned space left over on the new drive after the copy. |
| 04:09.11 | umarzuki | karlpinc: destination is a lot smaller |
| 04:09.20 | umarzuki | karlpinc: 73 GB to 4.3 |
| 04:09.35 | karlpinc | umarzuki : What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 04:10.09 | SuperMiguel | on gimp when u put two pictures on the same page, how can you move the other pic if you have as primary another one? |
| 04:10.35 | umarzuki | karlpinc: at least desstination bootable like the source (same partition table, sequence etc) so i can copy datas in it into source |
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| 04:11.12 | umarzuki | karlpinc: because it is impossible for dd to do that, at least that was not available |
| 04:12.28 | karlpinc | umarzuki : Well it's impossible in general because the disks are different sizes. As you say, you can only get the beginning of the source onto the destination, so there's no way you can copy anything beyond whatever fits on the destination back onto the source. |
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| 04:13.47 | umarzuki | karlpinc: since the usage of source is small, less than 200 MB, after i make destination bootable, i could just copy the datas over |
| 04:14.05 | umarzuki | karlpinc: at least that is what i intended to do |
| 04:14.07 | karlpinc | umarzuki : If you want to backup the partition table, just dd it into a file somewhere. Or, sfdisk -l to get a "restore script" you can feed back to sfdisk. |
| 04:14.31 | amine | Hello, I just want to setup a basic FTP server where I can specify virtual users and home directories, which do you recommend? |
| 04:15.19 | karlpinc | umarzuki : Just use cfdisk or fdisk or whatever tool you like to partition the new disk, put a filesystem on it, and back things up to it. It's usually not worth backing up the boot sector because it's usually eaiser just to re-install grub anyhow. |
| 04:15.42 | karlpinc | amine : vsftp |
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| 04:16.28 | karlpinc | amine : I'm not sure what a "virtual user" is, but you can use pam to use whatever you like to authenticate. |
| 04:16.33 | umarzuki | karlpinc: the problem is, it is a archaic os related to tv station thingy that uses fat16. so, if the disk is /dev/sdc, i could just "sfdisk -l /dev/sdc part-table-sdc" then dump it |
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| 04:17.46 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | i have still been unsuccessful in adding my custom tasks in tasksel...if there's anyone there please help me |
| 04:17.50 | amine | karlpinc: virtual user is a user which does not exist on the machine (or might exist, regardless username/password combinations in /etc/passwd are ignored) |
| 04:17.50 | karlpinc | umarzuki : You should be able to : sfdisk -l /dev/sdc > part-table-sdc |
| 04:18.42 | karlpinc | amine : That's what pam is for. You can authenticate off an ldap database, an active directory domain controller (lord forbid), or whatever. You don't have to have a "real" unix user. |
| 04:18.58 | enouf | sfdisk -d |
| 04:19.17 | karlpinc | enouf : Thank you. My brain is full. |
| 04:19.25 | chavodelocho | Hi guys, I have a adsl modem connectd in my Debian server, but a few weeks, sometimes, the pcs cannot resolve name,like the dns port was block, the others ports works because I can connect in a website for ip, if I restart the server all the connection works, restart iptables doesn't work |
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| 04:19.34 | enouf | no porb ;-) it's in the man page |
| 04:19.56 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | i have still been unsuccessful in adding my custom tasks in tasksel...if there's anyone there please help me |
| 04:20.07 | karlpinc | amine : Anyhow, I think there's "virtual" user support directly in vsftp too. |
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| 04:20.28 | kaizoku | I'm having trouble getting squid to use url_rewrite_programs properly |
| 04:20.32 | kaizoku | They just start eating cpu |
| 04:20.38 | kaizoku | and nothing goes back to the client |
| 04:22.06 | chavodelocho | enouf, I don't know if you remember me, you help me yesterday, about some installations of Debian, everything works. I used dselect, thanks! |
| 04:22.07 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | i have still been unsuccessful in adding my custom tasks in tasksel...if there's anyone there please help me |
| 04:22.27 | enouf | chavodelocho: somewhat familiar - welcome ;-) |
| 04:22.58 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : Where are "the pcs"? |
| 04:23.08 | enouf | mib_p6f6ahz9: have you rummaged through all of wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ? |
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| 04:24.19 | chavodelocho | enouf, the pcs was my client stations, they simple cannot resolve names... |
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| 04:25.32 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | enouf; yes...but i quite didnt comprehend the matter |
| 04:25.40 | chavodelocho | enouf, in fact this is my main problem, only the stations that was connected to my updated server (remember ;o)) don't lost the connection |
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| 04:26.24 | chavodelocho | enouf, I thinked that is the problem, that my servers was less update, but I have a mistake |
| 04:26.31 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : The pcs and the Debian server are on different sides of the ADSL link? |
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| 04:27.10 | chavodelocho | enouf, the stations on the connected server that I updated lost the connection |
| 04:27.45 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, yes, my Debian server is a router to the stations |
| 04:27.57 | enouf | chavodelocho: sorry, but i don't really understand - hope you work it all out |
| 04:28.50 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : If the Debian server is your router, then I expect it's _not_ separated from the stations by the ADSL link. |
| 04:29.04 | enouf | mib_p6f6ahz9: i;ve not had to try myself, so i don't know where else to ask - perhaps someone in #debian-boot feeling nice will give you some pointers |
| 04:29.24 | enouf | mib_p6f6ahz9: on irc.debian.org |
| 04:30.10 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, sorry... my bad explain |
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| 04:30.51 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, the Adsl modem is connected in my Debian server, he have iptables, squid and dansguardian, my stations is connectd in my Debian server |
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| 04:32.08 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | enouf; thank you |
| 04:32.23 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, I have two types of stations, the students stations are allow to the internet, whithout squid, I allow everything, the cyber stations use proxy, when I lose connection, only the student |
| 04:32.43 | chavodelocho | only the students cannot connect |
| 04:33.08 | chavodelocho | enouf, thanks guy! |
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| 04:34.19 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, I thinked that is was iptables bug, I don't know |
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| 04:35.32 | extor | I upgraded from etch to lenny on my dell lappy...and now gnome doesnt work. When it boots up I just see a mouse cursor, nothing else |
| 04:36.07 | karlpinc | extor: Maybe try: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:36.32 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : The students do not use squid? |
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| 04:37.09 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, no, they are allow to everything |
| 04:38.36 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : Anyway, the problem seems to be related to your ADSL getting assigned a new IP. So, you need to hook into whatever's re-connecting you when you get a new IP (pppoe maybe?) and tell the services to restart so they use the right ip. I'm thinking that maybe "up" scripts in /etc/network/interfaces would do this, but that may not be right.... |
| 04:38.47 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, suddenly, and more strange, the DNS not respond to these stations, only if I reboot the server |
| 04:39.19 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : Have you looked at the logs? That's the place to start. |
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| 04:40.19 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, not important in logs, the adsl modem is in router mode, he have a static ip connected to my server |
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| 04:41.56 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, so if the modem change the ip, I guess that not do difference |
| 04:42.04 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : Ok. And I suppose the dsl modem is also the dhcp server? |
| 04:42.31 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, no, the Debian server is dhcp server |
| 04:43.15 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : Is the debian server the dns server? |
| 04:44.23 | chavodelocho | enouf, no, in my clients, i put the modem ip |
| 04:44.34 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, no, in my clients, i put the modem ip |
| 04:44.43 | chavodelocho | enouf, sorry |
| 04:45.47 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : And what is doing the NATting? |
| 04:46.27 | umarzuki | karlpinc: i'm still having trouble dumping the image with "sfdisk part-table-sdc > /dev/sdc" it says something about start and end |
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| 04:46.41 | umarzuki | i mean the partition table |
| 04:47.12 | karlpinc | umarzuki : I think that's a warning you can ignore. You're using sfdisk -d (not -l) as enouf pointed out? |
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| 04:48.21 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, sorry I didn't understand, It's like two NATs: stations --> Debian server --> modem adsl --> internet |
| 04:48.50 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : So the only thing plugged into the adsl modem is the debian server? |
| 04:49.14 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, yes!! |
| 04:49.38 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, :-) |
| 04:51.18 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : And the debian server is using the adsl modem as it's dns server? |
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| 04:52.44 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, yes, the secondary dns, the first is a local dns in my network (other network), to samba authenticate |
| 04:54.00 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, when I stay whithout connection in student stations, in my server the connection works fine |
| 04:54.17 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : What? |
| 04:54.43 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : When the student stations don't work the debian server still has access to the net? |
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| 04:55.03 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, yes! and the cyber stations too |
| 04:55.14 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : What "other network" are you talking about. I thought there was nothing else plugged into the adsl modem. |
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| 04:55.54 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, the only difference to students to cyber stations, is the proxy in cyber |
| 04:57.06 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, yes, the adsl is plugged only in debian server |
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| 04:58.02 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : I'm still not sure just what your setup looks like, but if the debian sever always works then use the debian server as your dns server for the network instead of the adsl modem. |
| 04:58.10 | karlpinc | chavodelocho : I've got to go now. |
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| 04:59.53 | chavodelocho | karlpinc, ok, I will try,the worst is that my server and the cyber stations works, thanks guy! |
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| 05:20.36 | LinuxNIT | im running lenny and i installed the backports kernel 2.6.29-bpo.2-amd64 to get iwlagn support for my wireless card. I need the header files so that i can compile the kernel modules for virtual box but it says tath it depends on linux-kbuild-2.6.29 which is not installable. Is there a fix for this? |
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| 05:22.15 | bookmark | is virtual box for virtualization? |
| 05:22.27 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 05:23.51 | enouf | build linux-kbuild-version yourself |
| 05:24.05 | enouf | !trunk kernel |
| 05:24.05 | dpkg | Visit http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel for information on installing the kernel team's latest experimental kernels. Also visit #debian-kernel on irc.debian.org for more information on these kernels. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage or ask me about <kernel package>. Remember these packages are previews and work in progress. Handle with care. |
| 05:24.06 | LinuxNIT | enouf, how do i do that? |
| 05:24.28 | enouf | http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage i think has the info ..one of those URLs does |
| 05:24.33 | LinuxNIT | thanks |
| 05:24.52 | LinuxNIT | so will i have to compile the entire kernel ? |
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| 05:25.56 | hark | i suppose you can just install it from sid |
| 05:26.21 | LinuxNIT | will that work with the backport kernel and kernel headers? |
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| 05:27.19 | hark | it will all explode |
| 05:27.25 | hark | in flames |
| 05:27.31 | LinuxNIT | haha |
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| 05:27.37 | hark | maybe |
| 05:28.22 | hark | judd: versions linux-kbuild-2.6.29 |
| 05:28.23 | judd | hark: linux-kbuild-2.6.29 -- sid: 2.6.29-1 |
| 05:28.43 | mikejf | How do I statically link the libraries for a program so that I can use it in busybox while compiling the program? |
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| 05:30.29 | Skeptic | can i read an ext4 partition with debian stable? |
| 05:30.39 | Skeptic | i already have an ext4 partition |
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| 05:32.03 | stew | Skeptic: The userspace tools in stable are fine; the kernel support in the current stable kernel is labeled as experimental with ext4, so you might upgrade to a 2.6.28+ kernel |
| 05:32.06 | \amethyst | mikejf: add -static to the command line when linking it |
| 05:32.13 | hark | just need a newer kernel |
| 05:32.21 | stew | though I've not touched it yet |
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| 05:32.50 | Skeptic | stew: the ext4 partition is not the debian one, i just want to mount it |
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| 05:33.23 | stew | Skeptic: then we'd recommend upgrading to a 2.6.28+ kernel |
| 05:33.33 | Skeptic | stew: ok, thanks |
| 05:33.41 | stew | well, If i were mounting it readonly, i might try the older kernel |
| 05:33.58 | Skeptic | stew: ok, i'll try it |
| 05:34.42 | mikejf | \amethyst, how do i link it? |
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| 05:34.58 | mikejf | I'm trying to get curl working in busybox |
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| 05:37.57 | sylarrr | I liked the epiphany version of etch better then lenny |
| 05:38.09 | sylarrr | Is it possible for me to downgrade it? |
| 05:38.25 | \amethyst | mikejf: hm, might be a little tricky since part of curl is usually built as a shared library |
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| 05:39.22 | bookmark | hey duders, is the cell processor in the ps3 intel? |
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| 05:39.32 | \amethyst | mikejf: you could try LDFLAGS=-static make but I'm not certain that works |
| 05:39.45 | \amethyst | bookmark: no, it's based on Power/PowerPC |
| 05:39.48 | mikejf | ok ill give it a try |
| 05:39.53 | mikejf | thanks |
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| 05:40.01 | bookmark | could it run those distros? |
| 05:40.40 | \amethyst | bookmark: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_3 |
| 05:40.51 | \amethyst | bookmark: http://www.keshi.org/moin/PS3/Debian/Live |
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| 05:41.41 | \amethyst | !PS3 |
| 05:41.42 | dpkg | somebody said ps3 was a video game console. The ps3 is known for having the blu-ray drive,having storage capacities of upto 80gb, with companies currently developing 200gb discs. It utilizes the cell processor,made up of 8 ppc64 based spu's. debian live for ps3 is at http://www.keshi.org/moin/PS3/Debian/Live -- you can easily try and install Debian GNU/Linux on PS3 with this single CD, or #PS3Linux |
| 05:42.01 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | i have still been unsuccessful in adding my custom tasks in tasksel...if there's anyone there please help me |
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| 05:46.38 | \amethyst | dpkg, PS3 =~ s/,made up of 8 ppc64 based spu's/, based on a ppc64 with eight vector processing units called SPEs/ |
| 05:46.39 | dpkg | \amethyst: OK |
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| 05:49.14 | fredl | hello. How long does it typically take for a package to go from unstable to testing and is there a way to predict 'when' ? |
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| 05:49.42 | \amethyst | !britney |
| 05:49.43 | dpkg | britney is probably ftp://ftp.debian.org (and mirrors) uses a rather complex set of scripts to keep it all running with new package updates and such. britney is the script responsible for migrating things from 'unstable' to 'testing'. See also <girls>, <katie>. see <dak> |
| 05:49.50 | \amethyst | hm |
| 05:49.58 | arvind_khadri | hi, i am compiling gyachi , getting few errors when i ran make, can anybody help ... |
| 05:50.08 | fredl | I still have this svn 'could not connect' problem... not that it's urgent or something but it's been over a month that the buggy version of the package is in testing |
| 05:50.41 | arvind_khadri | !gyachi |
| 05:50.50 | \amethyst | judd: versions subversion |
| 05:50.51 | judd | \amethyst: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 sid: 1.5.6dfsg-1 squeeze: 1.5.6dfsg-1 experimental: 1.6.1dfsg-1 |
| 05:50.59 | \amethyst | fredl: same version in testing and unstable |
| 05:51.21 | arvind_khadri | judd, gyachi |
| 05:51.21 | judd | arvind_khadri: Error: "gyachi" is not a valid command. |
| 05:51.28 | fredl | amethyst - Hmm... how about bug 531338 ? |
| 05:52.18 | \amethyst | fredl: ah, neon27 is the package that needs to migrate |
| 05:52.23 | \amethyst | !why is neon27 not in testing |
| 05:52.24 | dpkg | neon27 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=neon27 |
| 05:52.50 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, hey :) |
| 05:53.02 | fredl | hmm 0.28.4-2 has been skipped for testing... |
| 05:53.08 | fredl | odd. oh well. |
| 05:53.19 | \amethyst | fredl: and -3 is waiting for a kerberos migration |
| 05:53.39 | \amethyst | fredl: (also, waiting to be 10 days old) |
| 05:53.59 | fredl | hehe it accumulates a bit this way doesn't it? :) |
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| 05:54.13 | LinuxNIT | enouf, thanks for the help i got the modules compiled and virtualbox running :) |
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| 05:54.35 | \amethyst | fredl: especially when big transitions are involved |
| 05:55.06 | fredl | anyway thought I'd check, tnx. |
| 05:55.07 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, could you help me with this http://paste.debian.net/39627/ ?? |
| 05:56.14 | \amethyst | fredl: also https://buildd.debian.org/transitions/summary.html |
| 05:57.52 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: no clue, sorry |
| 05:58.00 | fredl | \amethyst, it's a bit of a pity though that the buggy version slipped through to testing and is now in there for over a month or so because of this. |
| 05:58.40 | fredl | I guess every system, no matter how thorough, has it's flaws :) |
| 05:59.02 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: looks like it's something to do with Wine and something not supporting your architecture |
| 05:59.27 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: it might need patches to compile on amd64 |
| 05:59.33 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | i have still been unsuccessful in adding my custom tasks in tasksel...if there's anyone there please help me |
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| 06:01.28 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, hmmm.. |
| 06:01.57 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | arvind_khadri; hey this is perryarmstrong from the #ubuntu. i guess you remember...and we r on facebook too |
| 06:02.00 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: seems someone has built a gyachi package for ubuntu https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/ppa |
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| 06:02.33 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, ya but that wont work on debian right... |
| 06:02.38 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: you could try getting the source package from there and building it with e.g. apt-build |
| 06:03.05 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, seems a nice idea... :) |
| 06:03.09 | simonrvn | mib_p6f6ahz9: be patient, someone can help you in a bit (i'm going to sleep soon - good luck) |
| 06:03.13 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: chances are, if you rebuild the package from source on Debian, it will work |
| 06:03.33 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: if the build-dependencies are satisfiable anyway |
| 06:03.42 | arvind_khadri | mib_p6f6ahz9, aaah not able to remember you, whats your real name ? |
| 06:04.06 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, i just add the source lines? |
| 06:04.36 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, which distro should i add... any idea? |
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| 06:05.15 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | arvind_khadri; roshan |
| 06:05.34 | arvind_khadri | mib_p6f6ahz9, roshan jose?? got it... |
| 06:05.45 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | arvind_khadri; yup gud memory |
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| 06:06.22 | arvind_khadri | mib_p6f6ahz9, :) how do i help you ... |
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| 06:07.07 | superlinux | i have some conflicts in installing KDE from testing |
| 06:07.29 | superlinux | i just get stuck between version 4 and version 3 |
| 06:07.42 | superlinux | there is some confusion |
| 06:07.45 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: dunno... maybe try jaunty or intrepid, as those are the two versions of 1.1.71 package |
| 06:08.01 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, aah i cant find any .orig.tar ? shall i try the .deb ?? |
| 06:08.15 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | arvind_khadri; i am on an very important project and i have been breaking my head since past 2 weeks...tried our friend google also but got no help |
| 06:08.16 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: they're there |
| 06:08.23 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | arvind_khadri; i posted it at: http://paste.debian.net/39628/ |
| 06:08.44 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: http://ppa.launchpad.net/loell/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gyachi/ |
| 06:09.28 | mib_p6f6ahz9 | can anyone suggest me some debian developers mailing list |
| 06:09.28 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: oh... it looks like he built it as a native package (i.e. there is no "debian version" and no diff.gz) |
| 06:09.29 | \amethyst | arvind_khadri: so it's just the .tar.gz and the .dsc |
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| 06:10.41 | arvind_khadri | \amethyst, ya thats what.... :S |
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| 06:11.39 | arvind_khadri | mib_p6f6ahz9, did you go through the documentations of taskel ? |
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| 06:12.39 | \amethyst | with awk you can check the number of records in the END {} block |
| 06:12.41 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 06:14.49 | unjustice | how do I extract .deb files? |
| 06:15.26 | nsadmin | a .deb is a .ar containing two .tar.gzs and a text file |
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| 06:15.50 | nsadmin | alternatively, dpkg --help |
| 06:15.59 | unjustice | gracias |
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| 06:23.14 | RheaChiQ | hello how to extract .sit? |
| 06:24.03 | zinx | sell your soul to Apple |
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| 06:31.39 | simonrvn | RheaChiQ: allumesystems.com has a linux extractor (that segfaults on any recent glibc), and you have to submit a real email address to get the effing download link. my suggestion: find another file. |
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| 06:33.02 | simonrvn | zinx: they don't life about the compression being good, but wtf were they thinking making some dumbfuck proprietary format like that? *sighs, shakes head* |
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| 06:33.15 | simonrvn | zinx: s,life,lie, |
| 06:33.35 | zinx | simonrvn: easy. it's for mac filesystems, whereby files have two different forks with different data in them |
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| 06:33.49 | xbj_A21m | hi, can anyone help me with an old pcmcia wireless card in an old laptop? |
| 06:33.51 | zinx | simonrvn: you might ask apple why they did something crazy like that :P |
| 06:33.59 | xbj_A21m | it loads fine in the installer or rescue mode |
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| 06:34.22 | simonrvn | zinx: they could have done that another way, i think (i know about res. forks, i ran mac os for years) |
| 06:34.30 | xbj_A21m | I did lsmod from rescue and then rebooted and modprobed relevant ones and got the card to light up |
| 06:34.36 | xbj_A21m | but ifconfig only lists lo |
| 06:34.53 | simonrvn | needs to be set up now.. |
| 06:35.34 | \amethyst | stuffit is older than pkzip you know :) |
| 06:35.45 | simonrvn | zinx: look at linux. data fork only, but they managed to incorporate the same sort of data. |
| 06:35.49 | simonrvn | i know |
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| 06:36.10 | zinx | simonrvn: you're already well past the "same sort of data" by not having a resource fork |
| 06:36.47 | simonrvn | zinx: i don't understand your statement. "well past"? |
| 06:36.47 | RheaChiQ | thank you :) |
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| 06:38.28 | simonrvn | oh, you mean stuff like icons, thumbnails, and other "metadata"? |
| 06:38.47 | zinx | simonrvn: i meant linux's metadata is nothing at all like the mac's resource fork |
| 06:38.52 | simonrvn | (that's what i had in mind, .desktop, thumbnail caches, ...) |
| 06:38.56 | zinx | simonrvn: absolutely nothing at all |
| 06:39.05 | simonrvn | zinx: no, that's very true |
| 06:39.44 | simonrvn | my point is that you can do it, just from another tack. |
| 06:39.48 | zinx | in any case, Apple would be the one with the power to do something sane there |
| 06:39.51 | zinx | but Apple has to be different :x |
| 06:40.07 | zinx | i don't think stuff-it is actually by apple originally |
| 06:40.23 | simonrvn | no, was by alladin iirc |
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| 06:40.43 | dustybin | are .iso's different to usb stick images? |
| 06:40.55 | zinx | dustybin: yes, very |
| 06:41.03 | dustybin | dammmm |
| 06:41.16 | dustybin | is there a way to convert a .iso so it works on a usb stick |
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| 06:41.24 | cousin_luigi | hello |
| 06:41.25 | zinx | dustybin: Linux can mount some .isos if you put them on a usb stick, but the BIOS won't have a clue what to do with it, and Windows/Mac probably won't have any idea either |
| 06:41.41 | dustybin | dammmm |
| 06:41.49 | cousin_luigi | a while ago I disabled IPv6 on my lenny machine..now I can't remember how I did that |
| 06:41.51 | dustybin | ill have to waste more CDs then.. |
| 06:41.58 | zinx | dustybin: if you have a bootable .iso, you can make it boot with syslinux |
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| 06:42.10 | zinx | dustybin: the steps to do though are complex and depend on the specific .iso usually, however |
| 06:42.17 | dustybin | zinx: jeeze |
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| 06:42.22 | dustybin | not worth the hassle |
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| 06:42.40 | dustybin | my whole idea of buying a usb stick was to save CDs :( |
| 06:42.40 | cantido | Is there a way to escape a disconnected ssh session.. ala telnet? |
| 06:42.53 | zinx | if you get a U3 device you can 'burn' the .iso to the stick on its separate emulated CD partition |
| 06:43.04 | zinx | but i wouldn't recommend that course tbqh |
| 06:43.18 | zinx | dustybin: you can make the .isos boot w/ syslinux, like i said |
| 06:43.24 | zinx | dustybin: there are HOWTOs, probably |
| 06:44.09 | whaa | dustybin: you could kook at this: http://wiki.hands.com//howto/ultimate-usb-stick/ |
| 06:44.26 | dustybin | ok thanks dude |
| 06:44.27 | dustybin | :) |
| 06:44.33 | whaa | np |
| 06:44.59 | dustybin | anybody remember the name of that cool usb stick linux distro |
| 06:45.00 | flourish | dear all, my system is debian amd64 squeeze and when i manuall install tomboy_0.14.2-2_amd64.deb, it said |
| 06:45.11 | flourish | tomboy depends on libgconf2.0-cil (>= 2.24.0); however: on of libgconf2.0-cil on system is 2.20.1-1 |
| 06:45.13 | dustybin | its based on debian i think |
| 06:45.30 | flourish | tomboy depends on libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.12.9); however: Version of libglib2.0-cil on system is 2.12.8-2. |
| 06:45.33 | zinx | flourish: install with aptitude or apt-get instead of dpkg? |
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| 06:45.56 | zinx | flourish: or upgrade those packages |
| 06:46.00 | cantido | dustybin: damn small linux? |
| 06:46.01 | flourish | zinx: when useing apt-get i can just install 0.12-2-2 version of tomboy |
| 06:46.13 | zinx | SNS syndrome? |
| 06:46.13 | dustybin | cantido: no not that, something else |
| 06:46.30 | zinx | flourish: 0.14.2-2 is in sid |
| 06:46.31 | dustybin | i think it just has initials |
| 06:47.11 | zinx | flourish: sid is for packages that have not been well-tested, and may break your system |
| 06:47.25 | flourish | zinx: thanks, so i can use apt-get -t sid tomboy? |
| 06:47.31 | cousin_luigi | could anyone check if the line ' alias net-pf-10 ipv6 |
| 06:47.32 | zinx | flourish: squeeze (currently) is packages that have been tested for a bit and are known to not break some people's systems |
| 06:47.45 | zinx | flourish: i would strongly recommend against it. |
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| 06:47.54 | cousin_luigi | could anyone check if the line 'alias net-pf-10 ipv6' is uncommented by default in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ? |
| 06:48.00 | zinx | flourish: #debian can not support a system that is using packages from different debian releases |
| 06:48.16 | zinx | flourish: because it's known to break in very bad and sometimes very non-obvious ways |
| 06:48.37 | mikejf | I'm trying to get curl compiled for use in busybox, so i need it to be statically linked, and im having problems. I've tried using "--enable-static=yes" on the ./configure line, I've tried using "LDFLAGS=-static" at the beginning of the make line as suggested by \amethyst, and ive tried using "curl_LDFLAGS=-all-static" at the end of the make line as suggested here "http://curl.haxx.se/mail/archive-2003-06/0009.html" |
| 06:48.40 | flourish | zinx: then how can i install tomboy from sid since i use squeeze |
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| 06:48.52 | mikejf | and ive tried all combinations of the three |
| 06:48.55 | joeytwiddle | cousin_luigi: it's commented on my debian/stable |
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| 06:48.57 | zinx | flourish: is there a reason you can't use 0.12.2-2? |
| 06:49.12 | flourish | zinx: crash when add to panel |
| 06:49.18 | firespeaker | is mencoder not in the mplayer package? |
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| 06:49.24 | mikejf | the first 2 compiles it as a dynamically linked binary |
| 06:49.34 | mikejf | and the 3rd option is giving me an error |
| 06:49.42 | cousin_luigi | joeytwiddle: thanks |
| 06:49.58 | firespeaker | mencoder doesn't seem to have its own package either |
| 06:50.41 | cantido | firespeaker: maybe mencoder isn't in debian because of patent issues.. |
| 06:50.43 | firespeaker | so what procedure are debian users expected to follow to install mencoder? compile from source? |
| 06:50.53 | firespeaker | cantido: yeah, that was the problem with mplayer a few years ago |
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| 06:51.47 | firespeaker | how do you find out which package the refers to another package? |
| 06:51.47 | cantido | firespeaker: mencoder is in debian-multimedia I think |
| 06:51.54 | firespeaker | cantido: ah |
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| 07:03.52 | xbj_A21m | can anyone help me with ifconfig? |
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| 07:05.37 | enouf | LinuxNIT: eggcellenty ;-) |
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| 07:08.05 | bringmeasteak | would someone be so kind and test my shoutcast? http://76.90.247.68:8000/listen.pls |
| 07:08.54 | mib_o6t0ibp1 | arvind_khadri; there?? |
| 07:09.01 | arvind_khadri | mib_o6t0ibp1, ya |
| 07:09.26 | xbj_A21m | hi enouf |
| 07:10.20 | cousin_luigi | I'm fairly sure I did something more than adding a line to /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist when I disabled ipv6.. |
| 07:10.25 | cousin_luigi | any idea? |
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| 07:10.53 | hanibana | hi all |
| 07:11.13 | mib_o6t0ibp1 | arvind_khadri; power cuts in india..i tell u they are so irritating....anyways did you get any info upon what i asked?? |
| 07:11.38 | arvind_khadri | mib_o6t0ibp1, read the taskels... |
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| 07:15.32 | jelly-home | bringmeasteak: it works |
| 07:15.42 | bringmeasteak | thanks jelly-home, i appreciate it |
| 07:15.53 | jelly-home | bringmeasteak: some skippage though |
| 07:16.02 | bringmeasteak | oh really, i better lower the bitrate |
| 07:16.07 | bringmeasteak | i only have 512k up |
| 07:16.09 | nsadmin | cousin_luigi that's why it's helpful to have a journal for each machine, so that you can duplicate the whole os by following the steps in the journal |
| 07:16.36 | jelly-home | bringmeasteak: you need a relay with proper bandwidth then |
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| 07:18.10 | cousin_luigi | nsadmin: I thought I was done with ipv6 until the next debian release, but I guess I was wrong:D |
| 07:18.11 | bringmeasteak | jelly-home i'm really just trying to share music with one person, but you're right, it's pitiful bandwidth for this application |
| 07:18.28 | bringmeasteak | road runner is supposedly going to upgrade my area for free, and the upload will be increased |
| 07:18.37 | bringmeasteak | oh sorry im way off topic |
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| 07:18.46 | arvind_khadri | mib_o6t0ibp1, read the docs about it... the man pages, documentation... |
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| 07:19.57 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; before i could read what you said....we had another powercut...can you repeat if you dont mind |
| 07:20.08 | arvind_khadri | mib_o6t0ibp1, read the docs about it... the man pages, documentation... |
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| 07:21.04 | nsadmin | mib_41feopua: you should get a UPS |
| 07:21.23 | arvind_khadri | mib_o6t0ibp1, google about taksel... :) |
| 07:21.27 | jelly-home | bringmeasteak: should be enough for a single 128kbps stream if they ramp up their buffer |
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| 07:21.49 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin; we have it here in the college...but presently there are some technical faulty...so we can't help anything about that....it lieas with the administation |
| 07:22.23 | cousin_luigi | mib_41feopua: you could buy one yourself for your personal gear... |
| 07:22.24 | bringmeasteak | jelly-home yeah, when it was skipping for you i had three listeners |
| 07:22.59 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri i was able to create tasks only with the help of google and the docs as you mentioned./...but i am unable to get to the next level...there are errors generated and i am unable to get what i wanted |
| 07:23.42 | arvind_khadri | mib_41feopua, are you using debian or ubuntu ? |
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| 07:25.06 | bringmeasteak | jelly-home i'm glad you told me it was skipping, otherwise i wouldnt have known |
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| 07:27.09 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
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| 07:29.26 | aprendiz001 | I have installed phpldapadmin in debian lenny |
| 07:29.47 | aprendiz001 | but my filters don't work |
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| 07:30.13 | aprendiz001 | I fill uidNumber=>20500 and say to me no results |
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| 07:31.07 | aprendiz001 | is there any limitation in the filters from phpldapadmin? |
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| 07:31.55 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri right now debian.....i am in my training centre which is at a college....and debian is installed here |
| 07:32.14 | enouf | bringmeasteak: you're nick makes me hungry |
| 07:32.14 | arvind_khadri | !tell mib_41feopua about taskel |
| 07:32.19 | enouf | er your |
| 07:32.21 | mib_41feopua | cousin_luigi; i can't fix it in the college |
| 07:32.35 | mib_6q5e7o7l | when i am giving the command tasksel, im getting an error Can't use string ("vamshi") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/bin/tasksel line 83, <DESC> chunk 1. |
| 07:32.45 | enouf | see .. i'm salivating, thinking about steak, that i drool my words |
| 07:33.52 | enouf | arvind_khadri: typo in "taskel" |
| 07:34.14 | arvind_khadri | enouf, yaa |
| 07:34.29 | arvind_khadri | !tell mib_41feopua about tasksel |
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| 07:34.47 | enouf | i think mib_6q5e7o7l caught that though ... he's been fighting with tasksel for days |
| 07:34.55 | emk | Hi all. |
| 07:35.34 | emk | Could someone point me to a cookbook tutorial on apt-get... I need to conigure apt-get to _only_ download packages via FTP. |
| 07:35.48 | emk | * that should have been "cookbook or tutorial" |
| 07:35.59 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; i know about tasksel....and i added 2 tasks to it...but then i am getting errors and i am not getting the intended task |
| 07:36.26 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.45 | enouf | there's your line 83 |
| 07:36.52 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; when i run tasksel... i got the 2 tasks listed...but then its not installing the required package that it has.. |
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| 07:37.27 | arvind_khadri | mib_41feopua, which package? |
| 07:38.07 | enouf | better ask #perl people |
| 07:38.36 | xbj_A21m | emk: you want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 07:39.25 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; this is the code i put in /usr/share/tasksel/departments.desc: http://paste.debian.net/39629/ |
| 07:39.50 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; and departments.desc is a new file that i created.... |
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| 07:40.40 | mib_41feopua | enouf; were the messages for me?? |
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| 07:42.07 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; and i even reffered this: http://www.dit.gov.bt/admin/index.php/D-i#Customizing_tasksel |
| 07:42.19 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; but didnt get much info |
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| 07:44.06 | enouf | mib_41feopua: i guess |
| 07:46.51 | MrWax | Can anyone tell me why its recommendable to have a seperate partition for /htdocs when installin a new small webserver? |
| 07:47.49 | mib_41feopua | enouf; i'll try that also..... anyways i have seen 1 or 2 projects like some Debian science or so....and they did create tasks but doesn't seem to face any problems |
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| 07:51.02 | mib_41feopua | enouf; i am not able to get into #$perl... |
| 07:51.38 | mib_41feopua | enouf; i am not able to get into #perl...i get a message that i got banned as i selected the channel |
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| 07:53.36 | DonAlex | Morning Guys... Just a quick question for any SCSI gurus out there.. |
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| 07:54.14 | DonAlex | Am I right in thinking I can plug more than 2 Ultra2 LVD devices into a LVD U160 bus? |
| 07:54.20 | mib_41feopua | arvind_khadri; anything that you hit upon?? |
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| 07:58.36 | nsadmin | mib_41feopua: why did you get banned? |
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| 07:59.39 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin #perl |
| 07:59.55 | nsadmin | not where, why? |
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| 08:00.30 | TiMiDo | hey how can i fixed this mount: mount point /mnt/tmp does not exist |
| 08:00.31 | nsadmin | I'm guessing they think you don't read |
| 08:00.43 | TiMiDo | how do i create a directory on mnt |
| 08:00.51 | nsadmin | because that's what you' |
| 08:00.53 | nsadmin | re doing here |
| 08:00.55 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin; i dont know...enouf put up the channel name and i clicked it to join it and then i see a message stating that i got banned.....i never used that channel before |
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| 08:01.21 | nsadmin | hmm... let's see... |
| 08:01.28 | at0m | mib_41feopua: using mibbit? |
| 08:01.33 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin; ya |
| 08:01.43 | mib_41feopua | at0m; ya |
| 08:01.44 | at0m | voila :) |
| 08:01.56 | at0m | some channels dont like mibbit users |
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| 08:02.15 | at0m | i guess since mibbit is anonymous and can easily be used to spam |
| 08:02.44 | at0m | time for breakfast :)\ |
| 08:02.54 | mib_41feopua | at0m; i am not worried that i am banned....what i am worried is i am not able to solve my tasksel problem |
| 08:03.35 | nsadmin | you're not able because you're not familiar with it and you want someone who is to solve your problem for you |
| 08:04.20 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin; i dont want anyone to solve my problem....i want someone to help me solve my problem....not solve my problem itself |
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| 08:04.57 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin; why is apt-get source tasksel not working in debian.... |
| 08:05.19 | nsadmin | is tasksel the name of a package? |
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| 08:06.07 | mib_41feopua | nsadmin; ya...in ubuntu i get the whole package..but then i debian i get this: http://paste.debian.net/39633/ |
| 08:06.28 | nick11 | does anyone know how i can author an mpg movie to dvd and add chapters? |
| 08:06.45 | nsadmin | mib_41feopua: and it tells you exactly what to do |
| 08:06.54 | mib_41feopua | will be back in a few minutes....just a few minutes |
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| 08:07.56 | edoreld | how can I see which distribution is my debian installation (Only command line access) |
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| 08:09.21 | nsadmin | mib_41feopua: if you're more challenged by all this, start with the fundamentals. you have about two half semester's worth of material there, one half is the fundamentals themselves, the other half is learning to do research, gather information and read and understand reference documentation |
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| 08:09.48 | nsadmin | I -really- don't have time, patience or energy to help now |
| 08:10.22 | nsadmin | not when, as I have observed over the past few days, you are not pulling your weight |
| 08:11.21 | nsadmin | !fundamentals |
| 08:11.21 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ |
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| 08:18.35 | domenico | Is someone using firefox 3.5 or xulrunner 1.9.1 under debian stable? |
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| 08:21.57 | SparFux | Hi all. |
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| 08:23.50 | infinity0 | is there a way to make patch(1) not output rejects when it detects a reversed patch, and -N is specified? |
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| 08:24.29 | SparFux | Does anybody know why I get this message in aptitude? http://pastebin.com/d8aa3b0e It says some linux-headers-2.6.30-1-amd64: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.30 which is a virtual package. I am using Debian unstable. |
| 08:25.09 | SparFux | infinity0: sporadic idea: use | grep -v "reject" |
| 08:25.36 | infinity0 | SparFux: what? |
| 08:25.48 | hark | because you are using sid |
| 08:25.54 | enouf | nick11: maybe dvdauthor and friends, look at DeVeDe even in dmm - there are others |
| 08:26.20 | SparFux | infinity0: the output of patch(1) can go thru pipe *** ... | grep -v 'reject' *** or the like to filter out reject lines? |
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| 08:27.15 | infinity0 | SparFux: are you suggesting i parse the output of patch and remove the reject files after it creates them? |
| 08:27.41 | Phasy13 | Someone know how to play heroes on linux? I've seen people do that? |
| 08:27.48 | Phasy13 | IS there some kind of a port made? |
| 08:27.57 | enouf | only with guitars |
| 08:28.11 | SparFux | infinity0: oh, it's files it creates. Ok, so than my idea is crap. |
| 08:28.27 | infinity0 | heh |
| 08:28.38 | nsadmin | is it possible to use a fretless bass in guitar heroes? |
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| 08:32.07 | SparFux | So, why isn't 2.6.30 kernel headers installable at all? |
| 08:32.54 | nsadmin | SparFux: the messages you get when you try to install a package will tell you |
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| 08:33.20 | SparFux | nsadmin: it says linux-headers-2.6.30-1-amd64: Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.30 which is a virtual package. is an unmet dependency. |
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| 08:33.59 | nsadmin | what happens when you try to install linux-kbuild-2.6.30 |
| 08:34.40 | nsadmin | btw are you running amd64 userland? |
| 08:34.51 | SparFux | No candidate version found for linux-kbuild-2.6.30 |
| 08:35.04 | SparFux | I am running amd64 everything, userland, too. |
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| 08:35.12 | pipingcats | Hey, I'm getting a weird "Access denied" error when I try to open up a folder in Nautilus, but I can access this folder normally through a shell. |
| 08:35.27 | pipingcats | The permissions all seem to be set properly for the correct user, too. |
| 08:35.31 | nsadmin | ok... so the kbuild package isn't visible to you |
| 08:35.37 | arvind_khadri | SparFux, virtual packages are generally automatically installed when you install the package with which it comes |
| 08:35.59 | SparFux | pipingcats: check with "ps aux | grep <shell / nautilus> " the user the progs are running at. |
| 08:36.19 | SparFux | arvind_khadri: strange there is no kbuild package to install then. |
| 08:36.26 | SparFux | I check packages.debian.org... |
| 08:36.30 | jair | i am trying to install debian lenny using the netinst cd, I do not have access to a wired network connection to download packages during the "Expert Installation" I selected to install the wireless packages because the wifi cheap I have is the Intel 4965 so when I start the installation I get an option to load drivers from an external media, how should I have the driver in this case the iwlwifi-4965 and maybe mac80211 too? on t |
| 08:36.43 | pipingcats | They're all running as the same, non-root user |
| 08:36.52 | nsadmin | maybe it's so new it's not even in sid yet? |
| 08:36.57 | pipingcats | It's mounted to a different drive, though. |
| 08:36.58 | SparFux | And indeed 2.6.30 kbuild package does not seem to be there. : http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-kbuild&searchon=names&suite=unstable§ion=all |
| 08:36.59 | nsadmin | maybe just in waldiland |
| 08:37.27 | pipingcats | but I can do whatever normally inside that folder in bash |
| 08:37.43 | arvind_khadri | maybe still its a dummy package... |
| 08:38.07 | SparFux | nsadmin: it's not in sid, but linux-headers-2.6.30 is? |
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| 08:38.24 | nsadmin | jimi_c: why is ne2k talkin to himself?! |
| 08:38.31 | SparFux | Ah, so it may be work in progress. |
| 08:39.01 | nsadmin | SparFux: find out whether that's the case or not, it could be. |
| 08:39.33 | SparFux | ok, thx. |
| 08:39.57 | SparFux | pipingcats: are you running gnome? |
| 08:40.05 | pipingcats | Yeah |
| 08:40.14 | SparFux | pipingcats: what is the exact message of nautilus? |
| 08:40.46 | pipingcats | Couldn't display "/home/goodbit/workspace". |
| 08:40.46 | pipingcats | Access was denied. |
| 08:40.55 | pipingcats | :( |
| 08:41.18 | edoreld | what are the permissions on the directory? |
| 08:41.27 | pipingcats | I think I'm not making fstab mount those things correctly, but it's strange since I can open the files everywhere else without root |
| 08:41.38 | pipingcats | they're owned and "rwx" to the user goodbit |
| 08:41.40 | nsadmin | are you goodbits? |
| 08:41.43 | pipingcats | yeah |
| 08:41.56 | nsadmin | are you accessing as goodbit? |
| 08:41.59 | pipingcats | yeah |
| 08:42.16 | nsadmin | are you logged in as goodbit? |
| 08:42.21 | pipingcats | yup |
| 08:42.29 | SparFux | pipingcats: may there be an additional gnome access regulation? Can you check gnome-config? gconf whatever? |
| 08:42.30 | nsadmin | are you also logged in as a different user? |
| 08:42.36 | pipingcats | Nope |
| 08:42.49 | SparFux | pipingcats: try to run gconf-editor |
| 08:43.00 | pipingcats | alright |
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| 08:43.22 | pipingcats | What do I do in it? |
| 08:43.35 | SparFux | check for some access stuff. |
| 08:43.42 | SparFux | I don't know, there might be something. |
| 08:44.07 | pipingcats | Hm, alright |
| 08:44.51 | SparFux | What kind of folder is this? usb stick of normal harddisk?: |
| 08:44.59 | pipingcats | A normal hard disk |
| 08:45.03 | pipingcats | ext3 |
| 08:45.34 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.47 | nsadmin | show the exact output |
| 08:46.10 | nsadmin | should be two lines |
| 08:46.10 | pipingcats | goodbit@goodbit-PC:~/workspace$ ls -ld /home /home/goodbit |
| 08:46.11 | pipingcats | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2009-06-16 06:50 /home |
| 08:46.11 | pipingcats | drwx------ 41 goodbit goodbit 4096 2009-06-19 03:39 /home/goodbit |
| 08:46.27 | nsadmin | whoami |
| 08:46.35 | pipingcats | goodbit |
| 08:46.38 | SparFux | ps aux | grep nautilus |
| 08:46.49 | kubu | Hi, Brothers over there. I am studying one of OReilly linux books, but couldn't find this "inittab" in /etc/. I wonder where it is located in Debian |
| 08:46.55 | pipingcats | All goodbit |
| 08:47.21 | pipingcats | /dev/sdb1 /home/goodbit/workspace auto defaults,rw,user,exec 0 1 |
| 08:47.24 | joarj | kubu: which debian version are U running ? |
| 08:47.28 | pipingcats | That's the fstab line that mounts the drive |
| 08:47.58 | nsadmin | and sdb1 is an ext3 also? |
| 08:48.03 | SparFux | ps aux | grep nautilus ? |
| 08:48.05 | pipingcats | Yeah |
| 08:48.14 | kubu | well, its kind of debian which i take for granted being the same, its Kubuntu 9.04 |
| 08:48.29 | pipingcats | goodbit@goodbit-PC:~/workspace$ ps aux|grep nautilus |
| 08:48.29 | pipingcats | goodbit 27310 0.0 0.9 522956 37900 ? S Jun18 0:15 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default2 |
| 08:48.29 | pipingcats | goodbit 27348 0.0 0.0 17240 1008 ? S Jun18 0:00 /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burner/mapping-daemon |
| 08:48.42 | SparFux | kubu: is sysvinit package installed? dpkg --status sysvinit |
| 08:48.51 | joarj | kubu: Kubuntu (Ubuntu) uses upstart instead of inittab |
| 08:49.06 | pipingcats | Maybe if I log off and back on it might help? |
| 08:49.11 | pipingcats | err, restart |
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| 08:49.33 | joarj | kubu: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ |
| 08:49.40 | SparFux | pipingcats: why would that help? |
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| 08:50.06 | pipingcats | No idea. Maybe it'd reload nautilus's configuration files or something? |
| 08:50.06 | kubu | Joarj: yes sysvinit-utils is intalled |
| 08:50.11 | SparFux | upstart, is there a downstart also? |
| 08:50.47 | SparFux | kubu: fine, but you have a different dist, see what joarj wrote :-) |
| 08:51.04 | nick11 | enouf: thanks |
| 08:51.06 | nsadmin | the only thing I can think of is nautilus is trying to interpret the permission bits instead of asking the system whether permission is granted |
| 08:51.17 | kubu | yes, i found this upstart installed, but where do i locate it |
| 08:51.20 | pipingcats | Hm |
| 08:51.30 | SparFux | kubu: dpkg -L upstart |
| 08:51.45 | joarj | kubu: try 'dpkg -L upstart' |
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| 08:52.00 | joarj | points kubu to a ubuntu channel |
| 08:52.24 | joarj | SparFux : touchè :p |
| 08:52.30 | SparFux | :-P |
| 08:52.38 | kubu | yes, i do that, but it doesn't tell its location, only show installed |
| 08:53.17 | kubu | oh, i think i got it. I should use the "L" option. |
| 08:53.23 | SparFux | Yes. |
| 08:53.27 | nsadmin | kubu: so you have things installed in places other than where the package would have put them? |
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| 08:53.57 | kubu | Yes dpkg -l shows, upstart is installed |
| 08:54.36 | nsadmin | kubu: -L is exactly what you were originally told |
| 08:54.36 | kubu | Thankyou very much for all of you. |
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| 08:55.10 | pipingcats | Well, doing an init 6 seems to have fixed the problems, mysteriously |
| 08:55.41 | pipingcats | it must have been some other application interfering, I guess |
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| 09:06.17 | MichalPenka | hello community, I've got problem with cron running in ltsp client...could you please help? |
| 09:06.17 | MichalPenka | cron runs, crontab -l (for root) shows: 53 10 * * 1-5 /sbin/halt (I want it to halt at 10:53) |
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| 09:07.00 | MichalPenka | the problem is cron doesn't run /sbin/halt no time |
| 09:07.53 | MichalPenka | any ideas? |
| 09:08.40 | SparFux | never? |
| 09:08.50 | MichalPenka | never :) |
| 09:09.03 | MichalPenka | is the line correct? |
| 09:09.08 | MichalPenka | I think it is |
| 09:09.33 | SparFux | The line tells crontab to run /sbin/halt at 10:53 o'Clock every monday to friday. |
| 09:09.41 | MichalPenka | yes |
| 09:09.45 | MichalPenka | this is what I wanted |
| 09:09.48 | MichalPenka | well |
| 09:09.57 | MichalPenka | the monday to friday doesn't make sense |
| 09:09.58 | SparFux | do you get any email output? |
| 09:10.06 | MichalPenka | ? |
| 09:10.15 | MichalPenka | what is email output |
| 09:10.23 | jelly | SparFux: cron only sends mail when a job is finished |
| 09:10.37 | SparFux | ah, yes. |
| 09:10.42 | MichalPenka | where is mail located? |
| 09:10.49 | SparFux | and on error, perhaps permissions not there or whatever. |
| 09:10.50 | MichalPenka | is it in some file? |
| 09:11.00 | MichalPenka | this is root's crontab |
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| 09:11.06 | SparFux | ok, but it's root. |
| 09:11.07 | SparFux | yes. |
| 09:11.08 | MichalPenka | at least I think so |
| 09:11.16 | MichalPenka | I'm logged as root |
| 09:11.16 | SparFux | output of ls -la /sbin/halt ? |
| 09:11.51 | MichalPenka | 777 for root/root |
| 09:11.57 | MichalPenka | sorry, can't paste |
| 09:12.00 | MichalPenka | it's in virtual machine |
| 09:12.08 | SparFux | but the file halt is there? |
| 09:12.24 | SparFux | 777 ?? |
| 09:12.29 | SparFux | ah. |
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| 09:12.36 | MichalPenka | "sbin/halt" -> reboot |
| 09:12.42 | MichalPenka | without quotes |
| 09:12.50 | SparFux | and is reboot there? |
| 09:12.54 | MichalPenka | irc chat doesn't like it :) |
| 09:13.12 | jelly | MichalPenka: which debian release are you using? |
| 09:13.33 | SparFux | ps aux | grep cron |
| 09:13.34 | MichalPenka | yes, /sbin/reboot exist |
| 09:13.52 | MichalPenka | if I do /sbin/halt manualy, it really shut down |
| 09:13.54 | SparFux | is cron installed on you vm? |
| 09:13.58 | MichalPenka | yes |
| 09:14.08 | MichalPenka | ps aux |grep cron returns cron |
| 09:14.10 | MichalPenka | sorry |
| 09:14.15 | SparFux | hm... |
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| 09:14.23 | SparFux | strange stuff in here today. |
| 09:14.31 | MichalPenka | returs running /usr/sbin/sron |
| 09:14.37 | mib_hknodqfy | me back for resolving my tasksel problem |
| 09:15.07 | SparFux | Have any time stepping programs installed? But that would be rare to cause this failure. |
| 09:15.30 | MichalPenka | what do you mean by stepping? |
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| 09:16.21 | SparFux | Try to add " 2>&1 > /tmp/output.txt " to the cron line, change time and wait, send output.txt. |
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| 09:16.47 | MichalPenka | ok, thanks |
| 09:16.54 | SparFux | stepping like perhaps doing manual hwclock or netdate to change system clock not smoothlyl. |
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| 09:19.07 | MichalPenka | ok, now it contains this: |
| 09:19.07 | MichalPenka | 19 11 * * * 2>&1 > /tmp/output.txt |
| 09:19.21 | SparFux | so. |
| 09:19.31 | MichalPenka | no output.txt there to read :( |
| 09:19.43 | SparFux | no no no, do 19 11 * * * /sbin/halt 2>&1 > /tmp/output.txt |
| 09:19.47 | daos | I am having issue with mounting a USB 1TB hdd, is there something in particualar I need to do? or should a USB hdd work out of the box? |
| 09:19.52 | SparFux | just ADD it to the line, not exchange the halt. |
| 09:20.02 | nkuttler | daos: yes |
| 09:20.10 | nkuttler | daos: dmesg | tail, /var/log/messages |
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| 09:20.40 | MichalPenka | ok |
| 09:20.43 | MichalPenka | corrected |
| 09:20.49 | SparFux | ok. |
| 09:20.57 | MichalPenka | should be ready in 5s |
| 09:20.58 | MichalPenka | :) |
| 09:21.02 | SparFux | hehe |
| 09:21.14 | MichalPenka | still no txt file :( |
| 09:21.18 | SparFux | hm... |
| 09:21.29 | MichalPenka | seems like root's crontable isn't processed at all |
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| 09:22.05 | SparFux | Try * * * * * echo test > /tmp/testfile.txt |
| 09:22.56 | MichalPenka | ok |
| 09:22.59 | MichalPenka | 3s :D |
| 09:23.09 | MichalPenka | still no file |
| 09:23.14 | SparFux | let me test. |
| 09:24.03 | MichalPenka | I don't know how :( |
| 09:24.07 | MichalPenka | it's in virtual machine |
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| 09:24.19 | MichalPenka | and ltsp |
| 09:24.23 | MichalPenka | so it's really problem |
| 09:24.31 | MichalPenka | but I can allow you to see my desktop |
| 09:25.00 | MichalPenka | could you please try it? |
| 09:25.04 | MichalPenka | is it ok for you? |
| 09:25.13 | SparFux | how you do that? |
| 09:25.20 | MichalPenka | VNC? |
| 09:25.39 | MichalPenka | it's in gnome |
| 09:25.41 | SparFux | well, I get no files, too. The line seems to be broken or whatever. |
| 09:25.49 | SparFux | and I have no vm. |
| 09:25.53 | MichalPenka | ok |
| 09:26.00 | MichalPenka | doesn't matter |
| 09:26.05 | JPT | you missed out the username, didn't you? |
| 09:26.13 | MichalPenka | where? |
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| 09:26.25 | JPT | * * * * * <username> <command> |
| 09:26.33 | JPT | "echo" is not the username;) |
| 09:26.33 | MichalPenka | I'll check it ;) |
| 09:26.49 | daos | nkuttler: the error in the GUI I get is "invalid mount options when attempting to mount" |
| 09:26.53 | SparFux | I don't even get email. |
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| 09:27.13 | SparFux | JPT: that would be for SYSTEM crontab, wouldn't it? |
| 09:27.19 | MichalPenka | hey! |
| 09:27.25 | MichalPenka | now it outputs |
| 09:27.32 | JPT | *h* |
| 09:27.33 | JPT | *g* |
| 09:27.38 | daos | nkuttler: and dmesg just says VFS: busy inodes on changed media. |
| 09:27.38 | MichalPenka | I'm wondering why |
| 09:27.48 | MichalPenka | if it's root's crontab, why to include the user |
| 09:27.49 | MichalPenka | ok |
| 09:27.51 | MichalPenka | whatever |
| 09:27.54 | MichalPenka | I'll test the halt :D |
| 09:28.02 | SparFux | Yes, the manpage tells without user! |
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| 09:28.18 | SparFux | # run five minutes after midnight, every day |
| 09:28.18 | SparFux | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:28.25 | nsadmin | it's not the root's crontab |
| 09:28.30 | nsadmin | it's /etc/crontab |
| 09:28.39 | nsadmin | there's a difference and both can exist |
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| 09:28.44 | nkuttler | daos: i don't know anything about guis. pastebin the output of mount /device /mountpoint |
| 09:29.05 | SparFux | I got no output from this in normal user's crontab: * * * * * echo test > /tmp/test.txt |
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| 09:29.39 | MichalPenka | the computer doesn't shut down :( |
| 09:29.45 | MichalPenka | even with the root username included |
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| 09:30.16 | xa_ | sometimes this thing does not wake up out of sleep mode properly |
| 09:30.27 | SparFux | Help! I don't even get output WITH username included :-P |
| 09:30.32 | SparFux | Dammit, my cron ist broken! |
| 09:30.35 | MichalPenka | :D |
| 09:30.38 | xa_ | it just shows some console message and doesn't return to X |
| 09:30.41 | MichalPenka | you're not alone |
| 09:30.52 | xa_ | ME= |
| 09:30.53 | xa_ | = |
| 09:30.54 | xa_ | ???? |
| 09:31.07 | nsadmin | !enter |
| 09:31.07 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 09:31.31 | xa_ | Was that aimed at me, nsadmin ? |
| 09:31.50 | xa_ | It's impossible to follow the conversation when nobody prefixes with you nick |
| 09:31.52 | SparFux | xa_ : I bet 10 $ on this. |
| 09:32.05 | xa_ | !prefixwithnicknexttimeok |
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| 09:32.11 | orion_x11 | I am using a multimedia keyboard with hotkeys, but I have noticed that some keys does not have a similar behavior as when using a generic keyboard. For example, when I press ctrl + alt + F1 it does not open my first non-X terminal. So, where can I set up that up to F7? |
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| 09:32.57 | MichalPenka | SparFux: it seems that it stopped working for me as well |
| 09:33.06 | SparFux | hÄ? |
| 09:33.19 | MichalPenka | SparFux: 32 11 * * * root echo test > /tmp/output.txt doesn't work |
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| 09:33.48 | SparFux | strange enough. Something's going on here. |
| 09:34.36 | MichalPenka | SparFux: * * * * * root echo test > /tmp/output.txt doesn't work neither |
| 09:34.59 | nsadmin | MichalPenka: how long did you wait |
| 09:35.08 | MichalPenka | more than one minute |
| 09:35.15 | MichalPenka | I check it every minute |
| 09:35.26 | nsadmin | try waiting about 7-10 |
| 09:35.27 | SparFux | me been waiting for about 10 minutes now? |
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| 09:36.06 | SparFux | nsadmin: why may it work after 5 minutes? |
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| 09:36.23 | MichalPenka | nothing |
| 09:36.28 | MichalPenka | I've restarted crond |
| 09:36.37 | SparFux | I bet it won't help. |
| 09:36.45 | MichalPenka | I think so |
| 09:37.01 | SparFux | Have we hit a crond bug? |
| 09:37.12 | MichalPenka | I don't know :( |
| 09:37.46 | MichalPenka | strange thing is it worked for one time |
| 09:37.55 | MichalPenka | for me |
| 09:38.01 | SparFux | hehe. That's really strange. |
| 09:38.22 | SparFux | I have 3.0pl1-106 |
| 09:38.33 | MichalPenka | I've got 105 |
| 09:38.42 | SparFux | hm... |
| 09:38.48 | SparFux | I bet that's a bug. |
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| 09:39.36 | MichalPenka | but I wonder that nobody in the world didn't have any problem |
| 09:39.49 | SparFux | This means, my system cron jobs aren't executed for granted. Nice! |
| 09:40.17 | SparFux | Well, two people in the world at least have the problem! You and me! |
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| 09:40.22 | MichalPenka | :D |
| 09:40.35 | SparFux | I check debian bugs. |
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| 09:41.45 | SparFux | Penka: workaround would be to install some other cron, like anacron. |
| 09:42.02 | nkuttler | MichalPenka: /bin/echo |
| 09:42.03 | SparFux | btw, you have package cron installed, not a different one, right? |
| 09:42.14 | MichalPenka | yes |
| 09:42.23 | MichalPenka | actually I think it's ubuntu one |
| 09:42.28 | MichalPenka | but it should be the same |
| 09:42.38 | nkuttler | MichalPenka: ubuntu? |
| 09:42.44 | SparFux | yes, perhaps /bin/echo |
| 09:42.46 | MichalPenka | :D |
| 09:42.52 | MichalPenka | I'll try echo |
| 09:43.14 | MichalPenka | echo exists |
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| 09:43.25 | SparFux | no, nothing. Even with /bin/echo in crontab. |
| 09:43.27 | MichalPenka | it output test once |
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| 09:44.02 | SparFux | Yes, would be really strange if it was some missing path. |
| 09:45.03 | SparFux | check out this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=435271 |
| 09:45.23 | SparFux | So, indeed it's even more people having this problem :-P |
| 09:45.48 | bpun | SparFux, try running it outside tmp |
| 09:46.17 | bpun | SparFux, and expect it to be testing.. u're using sid? |
| 09:46.54 | SparFux | bpun: sid, yes. |
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| 09:47.29 | SparFux | outside /tmp? |
| 09:47.29 | bpun | SparFux, do u know what sid is? |
| 09:47.49 | SparFux | Yes. |
| 09:47.50 | SparFux | it's debian unstable. |
| 09:47.50 | bpun | ~!tell SparFux about sid |
| 09:47.59 | SparFux | I don't get anything about sid. |
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| 09:48.51 | cemunal | hi |
| 09:48.52 | bpun | SparFux, do u know what squeeze is? |
| 09:48.53 | rudi_s | !sid |
| 09:48.53 | dpkg | i heard sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
| 09:48.55 | SparFux | after some debuging, i have found the solution. i add @include common-pammount to /etc/pam.d/cron and it works. |
| 09:49.52 | SparFux | bpun: I know that. |
| 09:50.12 | SparFux | I was just trying to help Penka out. And we found that bug. It's already known though. |
| 09:50.51 | MichalPenka | hmm |
| 09:51.00 | MichalPenka | but I have nothing in /var/log/pam |
| 09:51.02 | SparFux | Penka: does the include help you? |
| 09:51.26 | MichalPenka | I don't think this bug is related to me |
| 09:51.35 | MichalPenka | I'm having trouble with root's crontab |
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| 09:51.54 | bpun | MichalPenka, i think he just wants to be with your log |
| 09:52.04 | bpun | lol |
| 09:52.19 | MichalPenka | bpun: ? :) |
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| 09:52.34 | bpun | MichalPenka, that page he gave is 2007... he really has no clue what he's talking about |
| 09:52.36 | bpun | L O L |
| 09:53.39 | mitrax_ | pgrep doesn't find a process if its name has underscore in it, should the _ be escaped or something? |
| 09:53.40 | SparFux | That's true, it's really old. Hm... |
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| 09:53.52 | MichalPenka | SparFux? He helps me and I'm grateful for him |
| 09:54.14 | MichalPenka | bpun: so you have any idea? |
| 09:54.16 | SparFux | Yes,but the bug page is really old. So this is crap. |
| 09:54.20 | bpun | y, but he's not into debian that's for sure.. good thing he's trying to help though |
| 09:54.32 | SparFux | It's about 3.0pl1-100 |
| 09:55.01 | SparFux | we have 105 and 106. |
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| 09:58.16 | SparFux | bpun: Well, I have a debian installed so I can try things. Common sense suggests there is something wrong with cron when * * * * * /bin/echo test > /tmp/test.txt gets me no file /tmp/test.txt within 3 minutes! |
| 09:59.03 | SparFux | And no I am not into debian that much. I don't even get bluetooth, zaptel, dahdi or whatever up and running. |
| 09:59.25 | nsadmin | and when you wait 10 mins? |
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| 10:00.52 | SparFux | nsadmin: 10 mins are passed now, I think. |
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| 10:01.09 | nsadmin | file exists yet? |
| 10:01.09 | SparFux | even more. all the time here in the chan I have this line in my user's crontab. |
| 10:01.12 | SparFux | nope. |
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| 10:01.31 | nsadmin | got mail from cron? |
| 10:01.41 | SparFux | no. |
| 10:01.57 | nsadmin | do you have mail properly set up on that machine? |
| 10:02.00 | SparFux | And I have even added that crap @include common-pammount |
| 10:02.07 | SparFux | and restarted cron. |
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| 10:04.31 | SparFux | But to be honest, for me personally, anacron would be better. I usually have my system running 24/7, but sometimes I turn it off for days, too. |
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| 10:07.28 | zeroConf | i am wondering where to go for help, someone formated a raid0 as a raid1 without knowing what they were doing, all the data on the raid0 is now lost... ideas? |
| 10:07.31 | cemunal | how can i configure the console font? |
| 10:07.42 | psycodad | SparFux: check /var/log/syslog for what might be wrong with your crontab. |
| 10:07.57 | bpun | cemunal, u can use vga=ask on the bootline.. then use 0x# in grub |
| 10:08.01 | Supaplex | cemunal: poke around in /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh |
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| 10:08.38 | bpun | dpkg-reconfigure console -- dpkg-reconfigure locales .. something like this |
| 10:08.58 | bpun | (locales for language) |
| 10:09.09 | SparFux | I have installed anacron and now both are running, cron and anacron |
| 10:09.16 | MichalPenka | ? |
| 10:09.20 | MichalPenka | I'll try it :) |
| 10:09.21 | SparFux | Don't they conflict? |
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| 10:10.45 | mesa_booger | cemunal: depends whether you use console-tools or console-setup |
| 10:10.51 | bpun | SparFux, if dpkg disallows it |
| 10:11.06 | MichalPenka | SparFux: I donť know :) apt allows it |
| 10:11.18 | SparFux | yes, that's even more strange. |
| 10:11.45 | SparFux | Anyway, every minute I get in syslog: Jun 19 11:47:01 res CRON[21777]: Authentication failure |
| 10:12.00 | mesa_booger | cemunal: if you use console-tools, edit /etc/console-tools/config |
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| 10:12.43 | SparFux | and without cron exim will be broken. :-( |
| 10:13.02 | bpun | cemunal, if u use the vga=ask on the kernel boot line.. u can get different resolution font for plain console.. |
| 10:13.47 | cemunal | bpun Supaplex mesa_booger thanks |
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| 10:17.22 | SparFux | Well, anacron even recommends cron. I think it's just an addon to realise the anachronistic execution of jobs. |
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| 10:17.50 | MichalPenka | it seems that installing anacron repaired the problem |
| 10:17.54 | SparFux | So, it's no alternative to use to get rid of the problem. |
| 10:17.54 | MichalPenka | will try the halt |
| 10:18.04 | SparFux | oh really? well, not for me. |
| 10:18.22 | MichalPenka | maybe it's because i use root's crontab |
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| 10:19.14 | beli | hi, someone here using nginx and virtual hosting ala debian-apache with sites-enabled dirs? |
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| 10:19.37 | DDevine | I have done it. |
| 10:19.40 | SparFux | Penka. well for me it's normal user's crontab. |
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| 10:19.47 | DDevine | What's difficult? |
| 10:20.04 | MichalPenka | SparFux: could you try root one? |
| 10:20.05 | SparFux | Penka: do you get any output in /var/log/syslog? |
| 10:20.09 | SparFux | ok. |
| 10:20.13 | beli | DDevine: where to put the include directive...i cant find any documentation at all but in russian language :( |
| 10:20.29 | MichalPenka | SparFux: nope, but maybe it's ltsp issue |
| 10:20.32 | Phasy13 | beli that's why russian rox |
| 10:20.33 | Phasy13 | ;) |
| 10:20.46 | SparFux | what was ltsp btw? |
| 10:20.55 | DDevine | beli: It uses an include in the default file. There is TONS of english doco for nginx though. |
| 10:21.07 | beli | Phasy13: it doesnt rock for an open source project not to have english documentation |
| 10:21.17 | Phasy13 | it does for me |
| 10:21.18 | Phasy13 | ;) |
| 10:21.20 | beli | DDevine: yes...but to what config section do i add it? |
| 10:21.24 | nkuttler | beli: feel free to write it |
| 10:21.33 | SparFux | he, as root it works here. |
| 10:21.33 | beli | Phasy13: dann helf ich dir ab jetzt in deutsch |
| 10:21.37 | DDevine | beli: It does have english doco. lrn to g00gle. |
| 10:21.44 | beli | nkuttler: LOL i dont understand russian, so how should i do it? |
| 10:21.53 | DDevine | IT HAS ENGLISH DOCO!!!! |
| 10:21.59 | beli | DDevine: the site providing english documentation was DOWN all the morning |
| 10:22.25 | Phasy13 | beli, ich bin Russisch :> |
| 10:22.29 | MichalPenka | SparFux: ok, maybe the problem is in crontab format |
| 10:22.35 | beli | Phasy13: du bist russe......lern deutsch |
| 10:22.36 | DDevine | Looks fine to me now beli |
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| 10:22.39 | DDevine | http://wiki.nginx.org/Main |
| 10:22.42 | MichalPenka | SparFux: I have 5 * there and it works |
| 10:22.42 | beli | DDevine: ok i will retry |
| 10:22.43 | DDevine | Works fine. |
| 10:22.51 | nkuttler | beli: stop that |
| 10:23.10 | SparFux | Penka: I used * * * * * /bin/echo test > /tmp/test.txt as root and got test.txt. |
| 10:23.10 | Phasy13 | beli :D Actually that was the way we were taught in school |
| 10:23.11 | Phasy13 | :D |
| 10:23.16 | Phasy13 | I remember it well |
| 10:23.22 | beli | Phasy13: oder du hast nicht richtig aufgepasst |
| 10:23.24 | Phasy13 | I guess our teacher wasn't too smart |
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| 10:23.35 | MichalPenka | SparFux: however if I put there some exact time, it doesnt execute |
| 10:23.40 | DDevine | beli: But there is an example of an include in the default debian install. |
| 10:23.58 | DDevine | beli: The main configuration file includes the virtual hosts file. |
| 10:25.14 | SparFux | We need logging output for cron. |
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| 10:25.21 | beli | DDevine: i want to include separated vhost configs...like with apache |
| 10:25.32 | SparFux | option -L |
| 10:25.40 | DDevine | SparFux: Make your own logfile. |
| 10:25.59 | SparFux | check /etc/default/cron |
| 10:26.17 | beli | Phasy13: du sprichst russisch...aber du bist ein russe....oder du bist aus russland |
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| 10:26.24 | DDevine | beli: it does that by default, just make another vhost file and include it the same way as the inital vhost file. |
| 10:26.52 | Phasy13 | ich bin aus lettland und ich spreche Russisch |
| 10:28.26 | beli | DDevine: i want them to be automagically included and not to write an extra section to the main cf all the time |
| 10:28.29 | SparFux | Penka: no more output but Authentication failure |
| 10:28.50 | beli | DDevine: like with debian and the sites-enabled dir...i put files there with the vhost config...and its sourced by apache automatically |
| 10:28.52 | DDevine | beli: |
| 10:28.56 | DDevine | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:28.57 | betz | Anyone knows if there is a ehcp irc channel? |
| 10:28.57 | DDevine | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:29.04 | DDevine | automagical enough> |
| 10:29.12 | DDevine | * is a wildcard. |
| 10:29.18 | beli | DDevine: thats what i asked!!!! WHERE to put that in the config.... |
| 10:29.26 | beli | DDevine: server section or where? |
| 10:29.34 | DDevine | beli: In debian 5 it is there by default. |
| 10:29.41 | DDevine | in a http block |
| 10:29.47 | beli | detex: why do all the people not read the questions... |
| 10:29.57 | DDevine | I'll put my file in a pastedump for you |
| 10:30.03 | beli | thanks |
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| 10:30.29 | SparFux | I think I got it. |
| 10:30.45 | DDevine | beli: http://pastebin.ca/1466115 |
| 10:31.15 | SparFux | Penka: Check /var/log/auth.log for cron logging messages. |
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| 10:31.44 | SparFux | I gotit! |
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| 10:31.58 | SparFux | Jun 19 12:29:01 res CRON[24199]: pam_unix(cron:account): account player has expired (account expired) |
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| 10:33.12 | SparFux | The account I tried to use crontab with was locked! I sudo'ed to it and thus the pam thinks, the account has expired. Cron seems to not accept that account for jobs! |
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| 10:34.39 | SparFux | but that's only my theory. |
| 10:34.40 | simNIX | SparFux, passwordless (disabled) account wok fine here - maybe the user needs a shell ? |
| 10:34.54 | beli | DDevine: hmm, still not working :( i need to strace |
| 10:35.06 | SparFux | Well, he has: player:x:1002:1002:,,,:/home/player:/bin/bash |
| 10:35.24 | DDevine | beli: Try asking #nginx |
| 10:35.26 | simNIX | what does su - username does / say ? |
| 10:35.27 | SparFux | simNIX: perhaps you pam has a different configuration than mine. |
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| 10:35.34 | simNIX | quite posible |
| 10:35.38 | simNIX | im no default Lenny |
| 10:35.41 | simNIX | *on |
| 10:35.43 | beli | DDevine: did already |
| 10:36.04 | DDevine | beli: TBH I had the same issue. |
| 10:36.16 | SparFux | simNIX: su - player just gives me a line Password: |
| 10:36.25 | DDevine | I assumed I had just made a stupid mistake somewhere. |
| 10:36.46 | bpun | simNIX, he means pam as in pussycat and oral |
| 10:36.49 | simNIX | SparFux, try sudo bash (become root) and the su - player |
| 10:36.58 | bpun | hehehe |
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| 10:37.22 | SparFux | http://pastebin.com/d3a87dee2 |
| 10:37.40 | SparFux | how can my account expire anyway :-) |
| 10:37.53 | simNIX | goog one |
| 10:37.57 | simNIX | never see nthat b4 |
| 10:38.00 | simNIX | *good |
| 10:38.12 | SparFux | simNIX: well, locked or not, this account gives me this expire error. hm... |
| 10:38.41 | simNIX | real odd - ill give it a google im curious what sets exiration |
| 10:38.42 | SparFux | http://pastebin.com/m2f2a38a9 |
| 10:38.50 | SparFux | yet still I can su to player. strange enough for now. |
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| 10:39.07 | gihan | hello all, i have added second ip to /etc/network/interfaces and restarted im getting this error Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address |
| 10:39.07 | gihan | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address |
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| 10:39.17 | SparFux | I remember more than a year ago I tried to find something on google about this. |
| 10:39.32 | simNIX | you are adminnnigh this box ? |
| 10:39.36 | simNIX | *adminning |
| 10:39.40 | ham5 | trying to assign a bad mac gihan? |
| 10:39.47 | simNIX | from google I get its an exired password |
| 10:39.52 | simNIX | so maybe set paasword |
| 10:39.58 | simNIX | and ten passwd -d |
| 10:40.09 | simNIX | (from head that delete passwd) |
| 10:40.15 | gihan | ham5: no idea |
| 10:40.51 | Supaplex | dpkg: coreboot |
| 10:40.52 | dpkg | [coreboot] a great way to speed up your boot process. http://coreboot.org/, or formerly known as LinuxBIOS |
| 10:41.56 | SparFux | simNIX: yes. it's my home bo. |
| 10:41.57 | SparFux | box. |
| 10:42.31 | beli | DDevine: i made some errors now into the include file...and did nginx -t and it showed the error...so the files are parsed now! :) but in reality it doesnt work ;) |
| 10:42.44 | SparFux | simNIX: I remember the passwd file in /etc has some expiration field or so. |
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| 10:43.15 | SparFux | ah, man passwd. |
| 10:43.22 | simNIX | I read on google; chage uis used to set exirations |
| 10:43.29 | simNIX | chage is |
| 10:43.39 | simNIX | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-users.html |
| 10:44.08 | SparFux | simNIX: set new pw, su - player gives still same error. |
| 10:44.09 | simNIX | SparFux, tried the set a new password and remove it I sugested ? |
| 10:44.16 | simNIX | rr |
| 10:44.17 | simNIX | grr |
| 10:44.29 | simNIX | you got root but not user access |
| 10:44.30 | gihan | anyone can help please? |
| 10:45.01 | asg | gihan: pastebin your interfaces file |
| 10:45.08 | beli | SparFux: setting new password doesnt really work if the account is LOCKED... try to unlock it first: passwd -u username |
| 10:45.21 | SparFux | beli: did that. |
| 10:45.24 | simNIX | gihan, maybe start with pastebin you interfaces / ifconfig -a and route -n |
| 10:45.30 | MichalPenka | ok people, I need to go to work now |
| 10:45.33 | ham5 | on the man pages whats the number after a program name like (1) or (8) |
| 10:45.38 | MichalPenka | thank you all, namely SparFux ;) |
| 10:45.43 | asg | ham5: the section of the manual |
| 10:45.43 | simNIX | beli tnx another thing learned here |
| 10:45.48 | MichalPenka | I'll be back within few hours |
| 10:45.49 | asg | ham5: man man |
| 10:45.54 | MichalPenka | have a nice day then |
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| 10:46.10 | SparFux | funny: http://pastebin.com/d2016936d |
| 10:46.22 | SparFux | cu Penka. |
| 10:46.35 | beli | simNIX: man passwd ;) its usefull to lock user accounts without changing there passwords.... |
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| 10:46.58 | SparFux | simNIX: I even got user access. the error seems to not have any effect. |
| 10:46.59 | simNIX | me with my goole ;0) |
| 10:47.00 | simNIX | tnx |
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| 10:47.20 | SparFux | perhaps I reinstall pam or whatever. |
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| 10:47.35 | beli | SparFux: you are logged in as root to that box? |
| 10:47.43 | simNIX | if other accounts work ok I wouldnt |
| 10:48.26 | SparFux | beli: yes, I can log in as root. and in the session http://pastebin.com/d2016936d I am root and in the end player. |
| 10:48.49 | simNIX | asuming somewhere is stored that this account should be disabled I asume after repam install it wil stil be that same |
| 10:49.06 | SparFux | passwd -S gives me root P 12/01/2008 0 99999 7 -1 |
| 10:49.21 | SparFux | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.32 | SparFux | I have to set expiration date. |
| 10:49.38 | simNIX | ok |
| 10:49.56 | simNIX | we need a boom of planet b4 we can goto 1970 again |
| 10:50.14 | nsadmin | or even 2008 |
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| 10:50.22 | simNIX | but I noted to read up on it - since I asume seting exiration off should also be posibe |
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| 10:50.33 | DonAlex | Morning again.. :) |
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| 10:50.39 | simNIX | mornnig |
| 10:50.51 | DonAlex | anyone know how to get fail2ban to ban multiple ssh ports? |
| 10:51.05 | exx | asg: http://paste2.org/p/273037 |
| 10:51.05 | DonAlex | seems it is only blocking port 22 by default. |
| 10:51.07 | nsadmin | probably you run multiple instances |
| 10:51.24 | DonAlex | nsadmin: Really? Seems a bit clunky to me :( |
| 10:51.26 | nsadmin | other than that, read the docs |
| 10:51.39 | SparFux | So far I have changed pw for player as root. if doing as player I get this: http://pastebin.com/d6378bb5 |
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| 10:51.40 | nsadmin | it's certainly one way to do it, clunky or not |
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| 10:52.32 | DonAlex | nsadmin: I did .. and I am none the wiser ;) It does describe how to make new rules. but I would have thought like webserver do not always run on port 80 ssh would have probed sshd to find out? |
| 10:52.37 | nsadmin | but I thought it coudl do multiple daemons of various kinds |
| 10:52.55 | DonAlex | lsof |grep sshd at it most basic level ;) |
| 10:53.02 | exx | simNIX: im gihan ifconfig -a and route -n gives me route: Unknown host |
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| 10:54.04 | DonAlex | well lsof -i TCP |grep sshd then .. even so.. |
| 10:54.05 | SparFux | nsadmin, simNIX: isn't that date the date of pw set? |
| 10:54.29 | simNIX | SparFux, im sorry don't know this is unexplored teretory for me :( |
| 10:54.33 | SparFux | aptitude reinstall passwd passwd -S player gives me player P 06/19/2009 0 99999 7 -1 |
| 10:54.37 | SparFux | still the error. |
| 10:54.44 | simNIX | exx, in your pastebin I spot several ips |
| 10:54.55 | simNIX | are you sure you have several Inet routable ips ? |
| 10:55.02 | exx | ya i need to add those ip to server |
| 10:55.05 | DonAlex | oh well. Guess time to talk to the mailing list.. :) Later peeps.. |
| 10:55.14 | simNIX | you isp has provided those ? |
| 10:55.24 | exx | simNIX: ya |
| 10:55.35 | simNIX | ok - just double checking ince thaty rare |
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| 10:55.51 | simNIX | ill have a closer look to your pastebin |
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| 10:56.41 | SparFux | I should perhaps reinstall pam. |
| 10:56.52 | exx | simNIX: after i add them i can reach server using those ip's but giving error when networking restart |
| 10:57.11 | simNIX | exx, I would for now goto only 1 ip setup (comment out others) I spot in mine allow-hotplug eth0 which I miss in yours |
| 10:57.24 | simNIX | also I only set address netmask and gateway |
| 10:57.31 | simNIX | odd |
| 10:57.34 | beli | SparFux: egrep "^(root|player)" /etc/passwd |
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| 10:58.25 | simNIX | else maybe put in iface eth0 inet dhcp nd see what you get |
| 10:58.36 | simNIX | maybe gateway rwrong since route -n errors |
| 10:58.41 | SparFux | http://pastebin.com/d24861457 |
| 10:58.51 | SparFux | beli: http://pastebin.com/d24861457 |
| 10:58.56 | simNIX | (then comment out address, netmask & gateway) |
| 11:00.17 | beli | SparFux: egrep "^(root|player)" /etc/shadow change some chars in the encypted password hash so we cannot crack your passes ;) |
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| 11:00.47 | SparFux | http://pastebin.com/d6db2e8f |
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| 11:01.43 | SparFux | http://pastebin.com/d21668180 |
| 11:01.47 | beli | SparFux: use usermod to set new expiration date....read man usermod |
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| 11:01.57 | SparFux | beli: ah! thx! |
| 11:02.00 | SparFux | mompl. |
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| 11:02.52 | SparFux | beli: Ah! Error is gone! |
| 11:03.00 | nsadmin | the shadow passwd suite was added to debian long ago, and consists of {user,group}{add,del,mod} |
| 11:03.10 | nsadmin | among others, like last and id |
| 11:03.29 | SparFux | Now I get a test.txt in /tmp created by cron ;-) |
| 11:03.36 | SparFux | Thank god I haven't filed a cron bug! |
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| 11:03.49 | nsadmin | what turned out to be the problem? |
| 11:03.54 | SparFux | Or Thank beli I haven't filed a cron bug! |
| 11:04.10 | SparFux | nsadmin: the expiration date seems to have been set somehow, though I never did that, but ok. |
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| 11:04.21 | SparFux | And the usermod -e 2019-01-01 player solved the thing. |
| 11:04.38 | SparFux | I thought passwd would be responsible to set expiration somehow, but well. |
| 11:04.44 | nsadmin | SparFux: so you couldn't cron if your pw was expired? |
| 11:04.58 | SparFux | yes. |
| 11:05.11 | SparFux | I could su into that account. But not cron. |
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| 11:05.33 | simNIX | glad you figured it out |
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| 11:05.35 | beli | nsadmin: thats common behaviour...it doesnt lock the password...it locks the account and all thats done by its user on the system |
| 11:05.39 | SparFux | Makes sense somehow. I can have the uid of the account, like a ghost or whatever. But cron joobs shouldn't be run, of course. |
| 11:05.44 | cinap_lenrek | . |
| 11:05.46 | Shtl | Hello All |
| 11:05.54 | nsadmin | so you also couldn't log in directly and/or via ssh? |
| 11:06.02 | SparFux | beli: yes. |
| 11:06.04 | Shtl | I have 1.1 GB tar.gz file, is there any way to make it to fit on 1 gb thumb drive?????? |
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| 11:06.30 | nsadmin | Shtl: it's too big |
| 11:06.30 | simNIX | extract and maybe bz2 it ? |
| 11:06.34 | SparFux | I wonder how the expiration date could get in there, how to set it off and wether other users have expiration dates :-) |
| 11:06.36 | simNIX | most of time that is smaller |
| 11:06.39 | beli | SparFux: do that again: egrep "^player" /etc/shadow |
| 11:07.00 | abrotman | Shtl: unzip it .. then try bzip2 perhaps |
| 11:07.08 | beli | Shtl: what data is it containing? images? text? |
| 11:07.10 | simNIX | ungzip it I should say |
| 11:07.21 | SparFux | player:!$xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:14414:0:99999:7::17897: |
| 11:07.24 | Shtl | simNIX: is it possible with dd?? |
| 11:07.28 | abrotman | or if you can .. split it .. move it in two pieces |
| 11:07.42 | beli | Shtl: there are also compression options zo bzip2 |
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| 11:07.47 | nsadmin | Shtl: nope |
| 11:07.51 | DonAlex | Ahh hey again guys.. .:) |
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| 11:07.53 | nsadmin | it's too big |
| 11:07.53 | simNIX | Shtl, dd only copy's simply put , doesnt compress - so no |
| 11:08.03 | Shtl | it contains Video files |
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| 11:08.05 | DonAlex | Just wanted to say found a way to use more than one port.. |
| 11:08.20 | nsadmin | how? |
| 11:08.26 | beli | SparFux: you could just drop the 17897 and it will never expire |
| 11:08.51 | DonAlex | in jail.conf where it has the actions listed and the filters it specifies a filter and a port. By default this is just ssh however you can put a comma and another port and it will parse it correctly. |
| 11:08.59 | DonAlex | so port = ssh,222 for example |
| 11:09.08 | simNIX | handy |
| 11:09.18 | SparFux | beli: well, in man usermod there is expire and inactive. my pw was expired, but the account not inactivated. It's strange that expired pw locks the whole account including cron jobs. I feel like it should not do that until account is inactivated. |
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| 11:09.39 | DonAlex | It is rather. means I can now do multiple services on the same parsing file. |
| 11:10.02 | nsadmin | DonAlex: did you have any logging issues with fail2ban? |
| 11:10.09 | beli | SparFux: thats right..so maybe debians control flow has a bug :) on slackware it just works as you described it |
| 11:10.48 | SparFux | hm... |
| 11:10.48 | beli | Shtl: you can split the file |
| 11:10.56 | DonAlex | nsadmin: Not so far no? It emailed me a report that looks the same as the normal report. |
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| 11:11.10 | Shtl | i haV deleted the file with shift+del, can i restore it? |
| 11:11.15 | DonAlex | nsadmin: Might need to investigate if I want to keep track of port attacks rather than service attacks.. |
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| 11:11.29 | DonAlex | but for now service attacks are more important I think. |
| 11:11.47 | themill | DonAlex: you might want to stick these changes in jail.local rather than altering the jail.conf file. If you leave jail.conf unchanged then it will be easier for you when you next have to upgrade that package |
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| 11:12.03 | DonAlex | themill: Good point.. |
| 11:12.09 | SparFux | beli: well, the question is, what's desired. |
| 11:12.24 | themill | DonAlex: you'd have to copy the entire stanza to do so (probably give it a different name) |
| 11:12.29 | SparFux | beli: I'd say, pw expiry requires the user to set a new pw and that's it. |
| 11:12.39 | SparFux | in my case, I wasn't even able to set a new pw as user. |
| 11:12.47 | abrotman | Shtl: which operating system? |
| 11:12.54 | Shtl | lenny |
| 11:13.22 | beli | SparFux: right...but on inactivity it should lock all sh*t run my that user....background jobs...cronjobs and so on |
| 11:13.59 | themill | DonAlex: rather than setting the port for the ban, you can also set the action to the iptables-allports (I think). That way, they don't even get the opportunity to keep scanning other services. |
| 11:14.39 | SparFux | beli: yes. |
| 11:15.16 | SparFux | beli: ah, no. The date on which the user account will be disabled. |
| 11:15.28 | SparFux | So, the user ACCOUNT is disabled, NOT the pw alone. |
| 11:16.27 | DonAlex | themill: Not sure I follow that? iptables requires a port to be passed across. -d port =x,y how can it still be listening on those ports? |
| 11:16.50 | DonAlex | themill: Doh |
| 11:16.59 | DonAlex | themill: Sorry misread what you wrote.. |
| 11:16.59 | beli | SparFux: passwd expiration != account expiration......you need to read carefully... |
| 11:17.04 | themill | DonAlex: :) |
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| 11:17.11 | SparFux | beli: look at the expired account error message: http://pastebin.com/d476f5a81 |
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| 11:17.34 | SparFux | beli: but it makes no sense. |
| 11:17.52 | DonAlex | themill: Yup that would do the trick. But still you need to listen to the ports on the other service to ban them. |
| 11:18.39 | DonAlex | themill: Actually now I come to think of it you do not.. the logs are the same as far as it is concerned |
| 11:18.44 | DonAlex | hmmms |
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| 11:20.01 | themill | DonAlex: my understanding is that when the trigger is found, banaction=iptables-allports causes all packets from the attacking IP to be dropped, not just ones to specific ports. |
| 11:20.20 | beli | SparFux: thats the common error for inconsistency from passwd to shadow |
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| 11:20.54 | SparFux | beli: why would it occur when I as the user change the password when the account has expired :-) |
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| 11:21.53 | beli | SparFux: why did your account expire? ;) thats the source of the question.....something has gone wrong before... |
| 11:21.56 | themill | DonAlex: I'm possibly misreading this though.... actually, I think I am. nm me... |
| 11:22.06 | SparFux | beli: ok, I try to understand this. The ACCOUNT has expired. That's why the user should "please contact your system administrator". He should not set the password himself as the ACCOUNT has expired. |
| 11:22.22 | SparFux | beli: my case is one thing, another is how expiration and inactivity is regulated in debian. |
| 11:22.23 | SparFux | :-) |
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| 11:23.14 | SparFux | So, when su'ing to the user, there is a paradox in stake. The ACCOUNT is used, though expired. So that's ok that there will be an error when trying to set an expired and non existent password. |
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| 11:23.48 | SparFux | beli: su'ing to the user is for admin only anywy. The user will not log into that account. It's dead. But how does inactivation of account come into place? |
| 11:23.55 | beli | SparFux: the souce is the passwd file..in special here the shadow file....it has the information about what to do for the system...you may read the getty/pam source code to get an answer ;) |
| 11:24.11 | SparFux | The number of days after a password expires until the account is permanently disabled. |
| 11:24.40 | SparFux | Here in the doc there is the talking about the PASSWORD expiration. |
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| 11:25.40 | DonAlex | themill: Hmmm well the curious thing is the default action is ban all ports.. |
| 11:26.03 | DonAlex | themill: So I thinkt the ssh filter must be specific.. |
| 11:26.29 | themill | DonAlex: action.d/iptables.conf contains port=ssh at the bottom |
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| 11:27.09 | themill | DonAlex: action.d/iptables-allports.conf doesn't match specific ports at all. Maybe I'm not hallucinating after all. |
| 11:27.16 | beli | SparFux: you have 2 dates.....one that says: password expires...and needs to be changed by the user.....2nd: password has expired and has not been changed in XX days --> disable/lock account |
| 11:27.31 | DonAlex | themill: Hmm so it seems.. |
| 11:27.40 | DonAlex | themill: well that makes kinda sense though |
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| 11:27.54 | DonAlex | themill: because it is parsing the log for a service name. |
| 11:27.56 | SparFux | beli: ah, yes. |
| 11:28.17 | DonAlex | themill: It is just that the service name , in this case ssh , has 2 ports.. |
| 11:28.27 | SparFux | beli: --expiredate cannot be prevented by user, no matter how often pw is changed. |
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| 11:31.03 | roll | hi there, is there a package for indexing and searching documents? probably with a web interface. any ideas? |
| 11:31.51 | JyZyXEL | what the thell |
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| 11:31.59 | JyZyXEL | sudo apt-get install kde-full says E: Broken packages |
| 11:32.10 | enouf | good |
| 11:32.15 | macrobat | :) |
| 11:32.16 | JyZyXEL | its not good |
| 11:32.21 | macrobat | :( |
| 11:32.28 | enouf | apt-get install -f |
| 11:32.29 | themill | JyZyXEL: do try to be more vague if possible. Don't actually tell us anything that's useful |
| 11:32.39 | themill | oh, and use aptitude instead |
| 11:32.53 | JyZyXEL | i never use aptitude |
| 11:32.59 | themill | not my problem. |
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| 11:35.20 | HaWeR | Hi, i wanna ask you for help for something. Its anyway to send a ping throught a diferent gateway of the route -n table? I mean, just using "ping" command |
| 11:35.23 | JyZyXEL | ill try figure this shit out with synaptic |
| 11:35.34 | themill | dpkg: tell JyZyXEL about bat |
| 11:35.41 | JyZyXEL | !bat |
| 11:35.42 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 11:35.58 | themill | wonders why that needed to go to the channel too |
| 11:36.11 | JyZyXEL | i don't have private message support in my client |
| 11:36.26 | themill | JyZyXEL: so join #debian-bots or get a client that's less broken |
| 11:36.40 | JyZyXEL | i broke it purposely |
| 11:36.41 | themill | JyZyXEL: there's a very good chance that aptitude would not have had a problem at all |
| 11:36.41 | enouf | roll: try ~$ apt-cache search index search {gnome, kde, pinot, etc} |
| 11:37.05 | JyZyXEL | themill yea rite, every time i try use it it just calculates something forever |
| 11:37.19 | themill | JyZyXEL: did you break that on purpose too? |
| 11:37.30 | JyZyXEL | no i didn't touch it |
| 11:37.30 | enouf | roll: make sure you 1st apt-get/aptitude update |
| 11:38.13 | themill | JyZyXEL: you perhaps should work out why aptitude is unhappy and solve that problem. aptitude being unhappy is usually a bad sign in itself. |
| 11:38.33 | JyZyXEL | but its always unhappy |
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| 11:40.15 | themill | I bet it wasn't after you first installed |
| 11:40.25 | enouf | themill: funnily, mu client does support PMs and still i would flood the channel had someone sent me the msg you had dpkg send JyZyXEL |
| 11:40.30 | JyZyXEL | yea but after you apt-get install enough stuff |
| 11:40.32 | enouf | s/mu/my |
| 11:40.32 | JyZyXEL | it always brakes |
| 11:40.37 | JyZyXEL | every time |
| 11:40.46 | JyZyXEL | and i have no idea why it happends |
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| 11:43.21 | mitrax_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:43.59 | enouf | try a hyphen instead |
| 11:44.23 | enouf | modulenames can also act flaky like that - even man pages |
| 11:44.51 | JyZyXEL | well synaptic offers me a solution for kde-full install that will remove "smb4k, kcontrol, kicker, konqueror" |
| 11:45.04 | mitrax_ | well sure i can rename the given process but i was wondering if there was a reason why a name with an underscore was not found |
| 11:45.09 | JyZyXEL | now thats pretty weird |
| 11:45.18 | JyZyXEL | kicker is the kde panel |
| 11:45.26 | JyZyXEL | why in the world would it have to be REMOVED |
| 11:45.33 | enouf | JyZyXEL: yep, say goodbye to kcontrol -- it;s someshit called systemsettings now |
| 11:45.43 | enouf | JyZyXEL: you don't want kde4 |
| 11:45.50 | macrobat | i guess some kde3 stuff will have to get out of the way for the new stuff |
| 11:46.02 | JyZyXEL | i see |
| 11:46.09 | mesa_booger | JyZyXEL: they are trying to get people to kde4. all the upgrades in testing and above are kde4. it is a mess |
| 11:46.45 | macrobat | i havent tried kde4 in a couple of weks, but kwin krashed, often |
| 11:46.55 | JyZyXEL | im on stable |
| 11:47.03 | mesa_booger | i've pinned all my kde3 stuff, to stop it being upgraded |
| 11:47.06 | macrobat | weks is spelled with ee |
| 11:47.48 | JyZyXEL | kde-full 5:50 |
| 11:48.03 | enouf | macrobat: funny, when i tried it, X would not even start without kwin being installed and set to x-window-manager, even though i use openbox O_o |
| 11:48.11 | themill | judd: you're not on "stable" if you're using kde4. |
| 11:48.11 | judd | themill: Error: "you're" is not a valid command. |
| 11:48.16 | themill | JyZyXEL: you're not on "stable" if you're using kde4. |
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| 11:48.21 | themill | stupid bots |
| 11:48.28 | JyZyXEL | well why the heck is synaptic offering me shit from testing |
| 11:48.45 | enouf | your sources.list sucks ass? |
| 11:48.50 | themill | JyZyXEL: I think we've just discovered why aptitude is unhappy too. What sort of borked sources.list do you have? |
| 11:50.01 | JyZyXEL | well pastebinit once again is not working |
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| 11:50.16 | JyZyXEL | so can't really think of a way to show it |
| 11:50.25 | macrobat | i have tried some kde apps in openbox, they wouldnt run properly and i didnt bother fiddling with it |
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| 11:50.29 | at0m | JyZyXEL: then just go to pastebin.ca or whatever |
| 11:50.31 | beli | SparFux: right, its the global account LOCKer.....lock, disable, expire.....all similiar words ;) |
| 11:51.00 | JyZyXEL | ... |
| 11:51.17 | mesa_booger | at0m: don't be cruel. he realises the awful truth, he just can't admit it in public :) |
| 11:51.22 | enouf | macrobat: well, i could fire up konqout on it's own and konsole on it's own .. for about 1 day that worked - then it all came crashing down and many other issues |
| 11:51.39 | themill | JyZyXEL: copy+paste not working either now? |
| 11:51.46 | JyZyXEL | themill, in console? |
| 11:51.56 | JyZyXEL | i don't know how to do that |
| 11:52.01 | at0m | JyZyXEL: thought you were in synaptic |
| 11:52.04 | simonrvn | !gpm |
| 11:52.04 | dpkg | gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the app itself interprets the mouse clicks. |
| 11:52.14 | themill | JyZyXEL: you said you were using synaptic. That implies X. |
| 11:52.21 | enouf | !pastebin pipe |
| 11:52.21 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. You can also "aptitude install pastebinit" if you are on Lenny or later (ask me about <pastebinit>). Upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php pipe to "nc paste.dyndns.org 1234". |
| 11:52.40 | JyZyXEL | now there we go |
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| 11:52.52 | enouf | JyZyXEL: did you break X too? |
| 11:52.59 | JyZyXEL | X is always broken |
| 11:53.08 | at0m | prepares for system reinstall |
| 11:53.22 | mesa_booger | what about wgetpaste or even curl -F |
| 11:53.24 | enouf | at0m: of JyZyXEL 's system via ssh? :-p |
| 11:53.42 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 11:54.08 | at0m | enouf: yea, parallel processing :} |
| 11:54.08 | enouf | mesa_booger: feel free to add/create a useful factoid - include w3m too if you like, or lynx or links2 |
| 11:54.14 | at0m | throws netinst.iso at JyZyXEL |
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| 11:54.19 | themill | JyZyXEL: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 |
| 11:54.52 | enouf | throws aol cds randomly about the channel .. but mostly in JyZyXEL 's direction :-p |
| 11:54.55 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ....what is the repo which have the non-Official or comercial packages |
| 11:55.07 | cobra-the-joker | as debian repo sucks very hardly |
| 11:55.21 | enouf | themill: nc is working again - i always have to test that before i tell someone ;-) |
| 11:55.22 | JyZyXEL | http://paste.debian.net/39651/ |
| 11:55.30 | enouf | again?* |
| 11:55.49 | themill | enouf: yes, but to a different paste site now. |
| 11:55.51 | HaWeR | anyone knows hows to make a ping follow a specific route to ping a host? ( i mean, bypassing by a different route of the route -n ) |
| 11:55.58 | JyZyXEL | i also got this going: http://paste.debian.net/39652/ |
| 11:56.07 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: sheesh... way to encourage support :) |
| 11:56.08 | enouf | cobra-the-joker: er, no it doesn't - but you can find non-official ones using google |
| 11:56.39 | simonrvn | LARTs cobra-the-joker |
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| 11:56.53 | enouf | themill: excellent - well, kudos to whomever keeps that shit running |
| 11:57.03 | themill | JyZyXEL: if you are "on stable" there's no point in having pinning and testing/unstable. And no matter what pinning you have, of course synaptic is going to show you those packages. |
| 11:57.19 | enouf | cobra-the-joker: i'm not even going to tell you the official non-official site :-P |
| 11:57.26 | mesa_booger | enouf: since i use tabs=2 spaces everywhere, but this doesn't always translate well in a pastebin, i need "expand" command in a PASTE function - PASTE () { expand -t2 "$1" | curl -F file=@- nopaste.com/a ; } |
| 11:57.39 | cobra-the-joker | enouf ...why is that :( |
| 11:57.46 | at0m | JyZyXEL: had problems pastebinit'ing sources.list too the other day: all links in the paste were seen as spam |
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| 11:57.58 | cobra-the-joker | i just wanted to get the updated software ....here i cant even find KDE 4 |
| 11:58.10 | simonrvn | ohnoz |
| 11:58.13 | themill | cobra-the-joker: the debian archive is the largest of all the distros. It most certainly doesn't suck -- try redhat if you want limited software. |
| 11:58.15 | cobra-the-joker | or the newer version for blender :((( |
| 11:58.26 | enouf | cobra-the-joker: you seem to belong in ##linux or elsewhere ... then spew that nonsense about the official repos, someone there will tell you |
| 11:58.35 | themill | dpkg: tell cobra-the-joker about stable |
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| 11:59.13 | JyZyXEL | well how should it then be |
| 11:59.25 | enouf | mesa_booger: hrm .. why tabs=2? Indentation amount as opposed to 4 standard? |
| 11:59.25 | cobra-the-joker | mmmmm.....so its only for stable software ...comforting |
| 11:59.28 | cobra-the-joker | a little |
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| 11:59.59 | simonrvn | run testing then. ... |
| 12:00.07 | themill | JyZyXEL: get rid of all non-stable sources. Get rid of your pinning. aptitude update; aptitude search ~o |
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| 12:00.23 | mesa_booger | enouf: cos if you have seriously nested code, it spills too much. tabs=4 or 8 is for n00bs doing cs101 ... |
| 12:00.32 | JyZyXEL | themill, well i sometimes like to install packages from testing |
| 12:00.39 | themill | JyZyXEL: you might want to pastebin the output of "aptitude search ~o" so we can see how broken your machine is. |
| 12:00.40 | enouf | mesa_booger: right-e-o then |
| 12:00.45 | jelly | zsh: no such user or named directory: o |
| 12:00.59 | themill | jelly: get a decent shell then |
| 12:01.01 | enouf | mesa_booger: or .. you could use '\' :-p |
| 12:01.06 | jelly | themill: it already is! |
| 12:01.21 | JyZyXEL | so i kinda like having the squeeze there |
| 12:01.21 | themill | jelly: next you'll tel me that "man [" doesn't work either |
| 12:01.29 | jelly | themill: sure it does. |
| 12:01.42 | themill | JyZyXEL: /msg dpkg ssb ; installing things from testing is the best way to a borked box.... which is what you currently have |
| 12:01.43 | mesa_booger | enouf: it spoils the aesthetic appeal ;) |
| 12:01.54 | enouf | [ can be substituted with test, and one other ... :-) |
| 12:02.08 | jelly | themill: I like my shells consistent. Always expand ~foo. Always expand globs. |
| 12:02.08 | enouf | mesa_booger: ahh .. an eye candy kid O_o |
| 12:02.22 | JyZyXEL | but when you need a newer version of something you install from testing |
| 12:02.24 | enouf | easily settable in bash |
| 12:02.28 | jelly | JyZyXEL: nope |
| 12:02.33 | JyZyXEL | well what then |
| 12:02.35 | jelly | JyZyXEL: you install from backports.org |
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| 12:02.39 | enouf | backports! |
| 12:02.47 | themill | JyZyXEL: [13:01] <themill> JyZyXEL: /msg dpkg ssb ; installing things from testing is the best way to a borked box.... which is what you currently have |
| 12:02.49 | enouf | or you mkae your own |
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| 12:02.56 | antii | any good phpscript out for sysinfo to php? |
| 12:02.59 | enouf | missed that |
| 12:03.12 | enouf | phpsysinfo? |
| 12:03.20 | antii | enouf: its too much :/ |
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| 12:03.25 | antii | any other graphical ones? |
| 12:03.26 | enouf | i've seen that thing? |
| 12:03.41 | themill | jelly: so do I. expand ~foo when possible, expand globs when possible :) |
| 12:03.44 | antii | or maybe trying phpsysinfo :P |
| 12:03.48 | jelly | themill: ew. |
| 12:03.49 | enouf | no idea - i think even irssi has something in it's default config for that :-P |
| 12:04.04 | jelly | addsuser o on themill's machine |
| 12:04.55 | enouf | adz is a paring tool :-) |
| 12:05.04 | abrotman | antii: perhaps ask ##linux or ##php |
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| 12:05.53 | antii | abrotman: ok thx : |
| 12:05.59 | MichalPenka | SparFux: hi again |
| 12:06.04 | MichalPenka | I've got few minutes |
| 12:06.13 | MichalPenka | were you able to solve our cron problem? :D |
| 12:06.50 | cobra-the-joker | IS it possible that the system runs faster under compiz than metacity ??? |
| 12:07.01 | MichalPenka | cobra-the-joker: no :) |
| 12:07.04 | enouf | could go for a 50lb hamburger at this point .. actually, i want extremely hot buffalo wings with blue cheese :-) |
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| 12:07.23 | jelly | buffalos have wings?!? |
| 12:07.24 | enouf | faster? |
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| 12:07.33 | enouf | jelly: in NY, yes ;-) |
| 12:07.40 | cobra-the-joker | MichalPenka , I have it faster :/ |
| 12:07.48 | jelly | enouf: dream country |
| 12:07.49 | Name1ess | jelly: yeah, and chikkenz has nuggets |
| 12:07.50 | MichalPenka | cobra-the-joker: ok then ;) |
| 12:07.51 | abrotman | jelly: let me tell you about "chicken of the sea" |
| 12:07.56 | cobra-the-joker | lol |
| 12:07.56 | enouf | jelly: in NY, even pigs can fly :-P |
| 12:07.57 | jelly | o.O |
| 12:08.01 | MichalPenka | :D |
| 12:08.04 | abrotman | enouf: just drive down to Clinton, NJ |
| 12:08.24 | enouf | abrotman: i know - but the better waterparks are in Conn. :-) |
| 12:08.28 | zamuro | What regexp do i need to use in order to replace [Expression][number]=//? |
| 12:08.38 | abrotman | doesn't see what one has to do with the other .. |
| 12:09.01 | jelly | http://www.giantitp.com/comics/images/oots0312.gif |
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| 12:09.02 | enouf | abrotman: both are day-long events |
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| 12:09.14 | jelly | zamuro: replace with what? |
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| 12:09.24 | enouf | asnd if i'm going to waste a day, i better make it worth my while and have some fun :-) |
| 12:09.28 | abrotman | enouf: you could combine them .. use the 50lb burger as your intertube at the waterwark |
| 12:09.35 | enouf | haha |
| 12:09.39 | zamuro | jelly: Actually, I need to erase that |
| 12:09.45 | jelly | zamuro: give an example of input and output line, and the language you want to do that in. |
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| 12:11.01 | zamuro | File210=///home/musica/Musica/Hot Bitch Arsenal/jane says.mp3 <-- I need to delete the "File210=//" thing. |
| 12:11.30 | zamuro | It's a playslist file I would like to use as a ices playlist file. |
| 12:11.47 | jelly | sed -r 's,^[A-Z]+[0-9]+=//,,' < inputfile |
| 12:11.48 | enouf | rename? sed? |
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| 12:11.57 | korhojoa | sed! |
| 12:12.03 | korhojoa | wait, someone already answered |
| 12:12.12 | Section58 | i would have said sed too |
| 12:12.27 | jelly | zamuro: mm, replace [A-Z] with [A-Za-z] |
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| 12:12.45 | jelly | won't bother with [[:alpha:]] |
| 12:12.45 | Section58 | that was a faster answer tho.. i was still reading the quesion |
| 12:13.08 | enouf | jelly: won't 210 need more than just [0-9] ? |
| 12:13.25 | jelly | enouf: yes, it will need that + right after |
| 12:13.48 | enouf | jelly: maybe [0-9,1[0-9],2[0-9]] someshit? |
| 12:13.57 | enouf | oh .. duh |
| 12:13.57 | jelly | enouf: no |
| 12:14.16 | JyZyXEL | themill, well on my newest debian installation aptitude search ~o only shows 4 packages |
| 12:14.18 | enouf | gotcha |
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| 12:14.57 | jelly | zamuro: this is assuming your lines always begin with some english characters, then some numbers, then =// |
| 12:14.59 | JyZyXEL | skype, truecrypt, virtualbox-2.2, webcamstudip |
| 12:15.14 | JyZyXEL | i installed those with dpkg -i |
| 12:15.16 | themill | JyZyXEL: that sounds about right. ~o is obsolete or locally installed |
| 12:15.32 | enouf | thq is origin then ~O ? |
| 12:15.39 | enouf | themill: is origin then ~O ? |
| 12:15.47 | themill | JyZyXEL: (where obsolete means "can't be found with current sources.list") |
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| 12:15.57 | JyZyXEL | oh ok |
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| 12:16.00 | antii | hmm, where can i find support for phpsysinfo? |
| 12:16.00 | themill | enouf: yes. /msg dpkg aptitude search |
| 12:16.16 | JyZyXEL | well my other machines are gonna have some more packages |
| 12:16.27 | enouf | themill: i just recall it was an o, wasn't sure if it was UPPER or lower case :-) |
| 12:16.30 | JyZyXEL | since i've been installing packages from testing for like 4 years |
| 12:16.37 | JyZyXEL | i didn't know any better |
| 12:16.55 | enouf | JyZyXEL: might as well be running testing then |
| 12:17.05 | JyZyXEL | well no |
| 12:17.17 | enouf | JyZyXEL: lenny hasn't been out for 4 years :-p |
| 12:17.21 | JyZyXEL | just some single packages that didn't need alot other packages |
| 12:17.42 | JyZyXEL | enouf, well yea when i was in etch i used to get lenny packages |
| 12:17.42 | zamuro | jelly: OK... Is there a way to get that output on the file? |
| 12:17.50 | nick_h | i just discovered that nothing's been written to /var/log/syslog for at least a week. however, syslog-ng is running. any idea why this might be? |
| 12:17.53 | enouf | IIRC, April 27 2007 was Etch's release even |
| 12:18.03 | enouf | er, 7th? |
| 12:18.08 | jelly | zamuro: the usual shell redirection. some-command > outputfile |
| 12:18.11 | enouf | Easter? |
| 12:18.13 | JyZyXEL | but im not talking about getting some massive requiments with them |
| 12:18.20 | JyZyXEL | just some packages that would install alone |
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| 12:18.32 | JyZyXEL | or with very few requiments |
| 12:18.42 | enouf | nick_h: /msg dpkg rsyslog |
| 12:19.07 | TpK | Bug#502224: Stopping root MD array fails because it's busy ???? I need a help, please |
| 12:19.25 | zamuro | jelly: That would be "sed -r 's,^[A-Z]+[0-9]+=//,,' < inputfile > outputfile", right? |
| 12:19.31 | JyZyXEL | i thought backports are even worse then unstable |
| 12:19.36 | enouf | !dbugs 502224 |
| 12:19.40 | dpkg | DONE:#502224:I[mdadm] Stopping root MD array fails because it's busy (); Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:51:24 UTC [] |
| 12:19.45 | nick_h | enouf: what makes rsyslog more desirable than syslog-ng? |
| 12:20.03 | enouf | nick_h: it's just the default, no idea - i run sid :-P |
| 12:20.09 | jelly | nick_h: nothing in particular, use the one you're comfortable with |
| 12:20.11 | themill | JyZyXEL: hardly. Mixing things that don't necessary have the same ABI is going to be a lot worse. See backports.org, btw |
| 12:20.19 | nick_h | enouf: hah, fair enough |
| 12:20.57 | jelly | TpK: what about that bug? |
| 12:20.59 | enouf | nick_h: was just thinking maybe both are running, and rsyslog is working, or one is interfering with the other .... blah blah blah |
| 12:21.06 | nick_h | jelly: i've been running syslog-ng for a couple of years, and have been very happy with it. however, i've had constant problems with it on my Linode VPS |
| 12:21.18 | enouf | !linode |
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| 12:21.44 | nick_h | enouf: what about Linode? |
| 12:22.04 | enouf | i have no idea what it is, so i thought dpkg might know |
| 12:22.14 | JyZyXEL | ABI? |
| 12:22.20 | enouf | but it ain't Debian nonetheless |
| 12:22.33 | nick_h | enouf: ah. Linode.com is a VPS service. very similar to Slicehost, MediaTemple, etc |
| 12:22.45 | enouf | obkb |
| 12:22.56 | valan | linode is superior |
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| 12:23.15 | superlinux | hi all |
| 12:23.17 | JyZyXEL | whats the kde package for lenny btw? |
| 12:23.21 | JyZyXEL | there is not kde-full in lenny |
| 12:23.22 | jelly | the prices seem high for xen. |
| 12:23.45 | enouf | judd versions kde-full |
| 12:23.47 | judd | enouf: kde-full -- sid: 5:50 squeeze: 5:50 |
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| 12:23.53 | superlinux | would you pressure test my server www.superlinux.net by reading the video plz? |
| 12:23.57 | JyZyXEL | told you |
| 12:23.59 | nick_h | jelly: Linode's prices are pretty competitive, actually. eg: they're cheaper than slicehost.com |
| 12:24.06 | enouf | JyZyXEL: according to judd there is :-P |
| 12:24.15 | JyZyXEL | no there is not? |
| 12:24.23 | JyZyXEL | do you see lenny in his reply? |
| 12:24.27 | enouf | oh crap - you _want_ Lanny now? |
| 12:24.29 | enouf | oh ffs |
| 12:24.35 | enouf | lenny even |
| 12:24.49 | jelly | tell enouf about enter, enouf |
| 12:24.55 | SparFux | re Penka! |
| 12:25.02 | enouf | ofcourse not - it's just called .. something else, kdelibs + something else kdebase + |
| 12:25.11 | enouf | !install kde |
| 12:25.12 | dpkg | For KDE3, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at the boot prompt of any of the installers. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall. See also <kde version> <install kde4> |
| 12:25.12 | jelly | !install kde |
| 12:25.15 | valan | or just kde |
| 12:25.22 | superlinux | jelly hi mate |
| 12:25.25 | enouf | wins o/ |
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| 12:25.39 | JyZyXEL | and now i get to do it the good old way apt-get install kde |
| 12:25.40 | jelly | !factinfo install kde |
| 12:25.40 | dpkg | install kde -- last modified at Thu Jun 4 14:48:05 2009 by themill!~stuart@phoenix.chm.bris.ac.uk; it has been requested 312 times, last by enouf, 29s ago. |
| 12:25.47 | superlinux | would you guys pressure test my server www.superlinux.net by reading the video plz? |
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| 12:25.54 | jelly | enouf: you were last! |
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| 12:26.05 | enouf | and .. the best :-) |
| 12:26.13 | jelly | enouf: ie didn;t win |
| 12:26.15 | superlinux | i wanna just see how it will hold |
| 12:26.30 | BW^- | how do i make a patch for a binary file? i.e. i have the files OLD and NEW. how do i make a patch for NEW vs. OLD, and then how do i apply the patch to OLD on another machine? |
| 12:27.02 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ....i am having some problem here ....the recordMyDesktop didnt record...its just stops at 0 % |
| 12:27.57 | jelly | superlinux: your upload bnadwidth seems to be not enough for more than 1-2 users |
| 12:28.17 | superlinux | it's just a home line |
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| 12:28.28 | superlinux | how much is't? |
| 12:29.03 | SparFux | Penka: the cron problem is soled as far as I am concerned. |
| 12:29.12 | valan | what is "is't" ? |
| 12:29.24 | jelly | superlinux: that's for you to answer; doesn't give more than 100KB/s for me, no matter the number of clients (tried 1-3) |
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| 12:29.53 | superlinux | that's enough for a website i think |
| 12:30.01 | superlinux | just a small one |
| 12:30.06 | somnambulant | Anyone ever encountered a hdd that just refuses to have it's partitions wiped (with dd) or deleted (with fdisk)? I have done both of these and the partitions always just show right back up and refuse to die! |
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| 12:30.28 | valan | a small website that gets very very little traffic |
| 12:30.56 | superlinux | well it's just for advertisement |
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| 12:32.46 | JyZyXEL | on my server "aptitude search ~o" found packages from sarge and etch |
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| 12:33.13 | JyZyXEL | their like packages that have changed name? |
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| 12:33.38 | JyZyXEL | like i have this on my lenny: ii webmin 1.180-3sarge1 web-based administration toolkit |
| 12:33.49 | themill | quite possibly. Or packages that have been removed from the archive entirely (like webmin!) |
| 12:34.01 | JyZyXEL | what should i do with all those |
| 12:34.23 | themill | JyZyXEL: probably purge them (see if you still use them... you probably don't) |
| 12:34.27 | smacnay | what is the dpkg command for help on nvidia install (or at least a point to a wiki)? |
| 12:34.43 | JyZyXEL | themill, can i do what i always do, nothing |
| 12:34.44 | smacnay | I just need to configure the xorg.conf file. |
| 12:35.14 | themill | JyZyXEL: yes, having unmaintained, probably buggy stuff lying around on the machine is always a good plan. I try to do that as much as possible. |
| 12:35.38 | JyZyXEL | yea that sounds like me |
| 12:35.45 | enouf | somnambulant: zero out the disk entirely - atleast the 1st say 200 sectors |
| 12:35.47 | JyZyXEL | i like that |
| 12:35.47 | smacnay | got it |
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| 12:36.27 | somnambulant | enouf: yeah i zero'ed the whole thing with dd-- the partitions stayed.. :) |
| 12:36.42 | enouf | somnambulant: no they didn't |
| 12:36.55 | somnambulant | well fdisk -l said they did |
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| 12:37.01 | enouf | prove it - show command and it's output |
| 12:37.16 | somnambulant | enouf: it's at work |
| 12:37.30 | enouf | is that a u3 or a GPT or LVM or ... |
| 12:37.42 | enouf | call your coworkers :-P |
| 12:37.44 | somnambulant | enouf: SFS |
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| 12:38.18 | enouf | Simply F'ked Shit? |
| 12:38.30 | somnambulant | enouf: seems like it |
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| 12:39.08 | somnambulant | enouf: fdisk said "cannot find tocblock" when trying to write to the partition table when I tried to delete them |
| 12:39.30 | Ace2017_- | Hi all |
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| 12:39.39 | somnambulant | enouf: oh and get this - the first partition was from block 1 to block 1 |
| 12:39.58 | enouf | dd !=fdisk |
| 12:40.05 | somnambulant | enouf: the 2nd was from 1 to 19452.. the 3rd from 19452 to 19453 |
| 12:40.08 | pbn | Hi, I heard that "On all Centrino laptops, the WiFi is natively supported in the Debian stock kernel". Is that correct ? |
| 12:40.11 | nick_h | if a cron job fails (eg: seg faults) while running, will cron ignore that job the next time the job is scheduled to be run? |
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| 12:40.15 | Ace2017_- | does the Option "Name" in the mouse section of xorg.conf allow you to have multiple mice with different mouse mappings? |
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| 12:42.24 | enouf | Ace2017_-: http://linuxtoys.org/multiseat/multiseat.html should help |
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| 12:45.25 | jelly | pbn: the chipset wifi hardware (ipw2100 - 2200 - 2915) should be supported, yes |
| 12:46.00 | jelly | pbn: this doesn't mean "works out of the box", typically you need to download some firmware first |
| 12:46.08 | jelly | !ipw |
| 12:46.13 | jelly | !ipw2200 |
| 12:46.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ipw2200 is the driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 and 2915 802.11a/bg chipsets (http://ipw2200.sf.net/) included in kernels since 2.6.15. Firmware is required. Lenny: Add <non-free sources> and install the 'firmware-ipw2x00' package. Etch: Download firmware v3.0 from http://ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php and extract to /lib/firmware. See also <ipw2200 troubleshooting>. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 on ... |
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| 12:48.14 | roll_ | enouf: thanks for your suggestion, but I needed a web application. |
| 12:48.50 | Ace2017_- | enouf: thanks, it looks like quad core systems finally have a good use |
| 12:49.35 | enouf | pbn: if you only have wlan/wifi and no wired conn for installation, /msg dpkg installer firmware |
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| 12:50.20 | roll_ | my question once again... does anyone have an idea how to replace the Microsoft Search Server 2008 Express with a linux alternative? |
| 12:50.23 | Ace2017_- | enouf: so if i added multiple InputDevice "Mouse" lines to a single screen i would have multiple pointers on the screen? |
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| 12:51.51 | enouf | Ace2017_-: all i know is i've had multiple keyboards hooked up and all worked no matter which one i was typing on |
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| 12:52.52 | Ace2017_- | thanks, i will try it |
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| 12:55.55 | fluffle | hi -- i'm trying to build a set of packages for termcap (don't ask why, please) and though i've got most of the way by reading docs and using zlib1g as an example i'm running into some problems. |
| 12:56.29 | fluffle | rules: http://pl0rt.org/~alex/termcap/rules control: http://pl0rt.org/~alex/termcap/control output of dpkg-buildpackage -b: http://pl0rt.org/~alex/termcap/pkg.build |
| 12:57.27 | SparFux | beli: strange way, but the ACCOUNT expiration is changed with usermod whilst the PASSWORD expiration is changed with passwd, I found out :-) |
| 12:57.28 | fluffle | it doesn't appear to be trying to build libtermcap2-common, i can't figure out why but it's probably related to: "dpkg-genchanges: warning: package libtermcap2-common in control file but not in files list" |
| 12:58.13 | fluffle | can anyonehelp, or point me towards some docs that could? |
| 12:58.24 | beli | SparFux: yes...thats true :) passwd is short for password ;) and ment to do stuff on passwords...but you are right...its a bit mixed...could be clearer |
| 12:59.06 | SparFux | Yes, I think the mixed design did make me some trouble. And even that I didn't know of "usermod" to do expiry things. |
| 12:59.27 | SparFux | But that's stupid, because usermod is mentioned in passwd manpage :-) |
| 12:59.36 | fluffle | also, "dh_link -s" doesn't create the symlinks i've put in <package>.link for the binary packages |
| 12:59.37 | SparFux | Now I have another mysterious thing! |
| 13:00.08 | fluffle | (but i think that may have been a typo, oops) |
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| 13:02.04 | SparFux | When doing aptitude installations I get this locale error: http://pastebin.com/d61f2d9e |
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| 13:04.40 | visof | hello |
| 13:05.03 | visof | is there programs to recover my harddisk lost data from Debian ? |
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| 13:06.10 | asg | visof: that's what backups are for |
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| 13:06.20 | sattam | hi , can i add ubuntu or mint repo ? |
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| 13:06.34 | asg | sattam: not without breaking things horribly in most cases |
| 13:06.41 | avu | sattam, in theory you can, you really shouldn't though |
| 13:06.44 | visof | asg is it working for fat32 fs ? |
| 13:07.02 | avu | visof, backups work for fat32, yes :) |
| 13:07.48 | sattam | asg: did debian repo has all packages in ubuntu ? |
| 13:08.11 | asg | visof: you may want to look at 'mondo' |
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| 13:08.35 | asg | sattam: and more ... depends on which version of Debian you are running relative to Ubuntu |
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| 13:09.17 | sattam | i think i will goign with testing , is it stable enough ? |
| 13:09.25 | sattam | going * |
| 13:09.36 | asg | sattam: most of the time but there can be issues |
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| 13:10.22 | sattam | testing has a security update ? |
| 13:10.42 | asg | sattam: /msg dpkg testing security |
| 13:11.49 | visof | asg what is the package name ? |
| 13:11.59 | asg | visof: mondo |
| 13:12.02 | visof | asg i tried backup-mamager |
| 13:12.13 | visof | ask i didn't found it |
| 13:12.19 | visof | asg i didn't found it |
| 13:12.33 | asg | judd versions mondo |
| 13:12.33 | judd | asg: mondo -- etch: 2.20-1.1 sid: 1:2.2.7-2 squeeze: 1:2.2.7-2 |
| 13:12.43 | EmleyMoor | I use flexbackup |
| 13:12.45 | themill | poor lenny :( |
| 13:12.58 | asg | no soup for you |
| 13:13.33 | sattam | so why kernel version old ? , we are now in 2.6.30 |
| 13:13.37 | mamalujo_ | anyone use electricsheep screensaver here? its insisting I upgrade it, version is closing it says. I don't see any version being in unstable though. and this is the latest one in testing. |
| 13:13.43 | themill | dpkg: tell sattam about stable |
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| 13:13.55 | visof | EmleyMoor i installed flexbackup |
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| 13:14.51 | sattam | themill: i mean testing |
| 13:15.22 | themill | sattam: 2.6.30 is in sid. If you fix some bugs, you'll get it in testing. |
| 13:15.31 | MrWax | What is in general a good amount of swap space for a webserver if te gb's aren't issue? |
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| 13:16.25 | EmleyMoor | MrWax: I tend to go for 2xRAM + amount of space needed for /tmp - and make /tmp a shmfs |
| 13:16.40 | sattam | ok , does debian has notify-osd like ubuntu ? |
| 13:17.11 | betz | debian.intergenia.de, is it just a mirror of the normal debian repos? i find all this links in my sources.list file. |
| 13:17.26 | bzrk | betz: yes |
| 13:17.30 | MrWax | EmleyMoor: so, about what would be your partition setup if you had 40gb in a vm to spend? |
| 13:17.33 | themill | sattam: also note that the kernel wouldn't hit testing for at least 10 days after it was released and 2.6.30 was only released 10 days ago. |
| 13:17.33 | betz | allright |
| 13:17.37 | MrWax | for a debian vm webserver? |
| 13:17.39 | themill | sattam: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:18.26 | betz | bzrk: can you have a look at this http://pastebin.ca/1466282 i want to upgrade to lenny. What to do exactly. Last time i totally screwed my system :s |
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| 13:19.47 | bzrk | betz: %s/etch/lenny/g and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade should do it |
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| 13:20.31 | betz | %s/etch/lenny/g i get 'no such job' |
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| 13:20.42 | bzrk | betz: do that in vim |
| 13:20.49 | betz | iah |
| 13:20.52 | themill | bzrk, betz: that's not actually the recommended way to upgrade from etch to lenny in any case. Please consult the release notes. |
| 13:21.01 | bzrk | themill: i do it this way for ages |
| 13:21.02 | EmleyMoor | MrWax: Do you know how much you need in /boot, /, /usr and /var? |
| 13:21.04 | bzrk | it works |
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| 13:21.24 | betz | themill: what's the right way? |
| 13:21.42 | themill | bzrk: that's nice. I'm sure those of us who did all that upgrade testing in order to put together the slightly more complicated procedure in the release notes came up with that procedure for no good reason at all. |
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| 13:21.57 | bzrk | themill: thx for your sarcasm |
| 13:22.06 | betz | themill: i forgot to say, it's a clean system |
| 13:22.07 | themill | any time. /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 13:22.45 | betz | ok, thanks |
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| 13:23.34 | MrWax | EmleyMoor: I'm not so experienced in partitioning linux systems, what would you recommend based on my behavior (need webserver with some small db apps, some perl scripts running, few test websites, that's it, and one user sshing from several places, but not storing a lot) |
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| 13:23.47 | betz | in http://pastebin.ca/1466282 what's 'main' about? |
| 13:23.59 | bzrk | betz: debain main repository |
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| 13:24.26 | bzrk | you could say core packages from debian project |
| 13:24.39 | betz | but are they etch or lenny? |
| 13:24.41 | betz | confusing |
| 13:24.51 | mesa_booger | why is "info" bad ? it explains things much better than "man" in a lot of cases |
| 13:24.56 | bzrk | betz: that depends on whether you have etch or lenny ;) |
| 13:25.03 | bzrk | main is part of both |
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| 13:25.31 | betz | ah so if i change all etch's in my sources.list file and do the upgrade, main i can leave like that? |
| 13:25.43 | bzrk | betz: exactly |
| 13:25.50 | bzrk | only change etch to lenny and update |
| 13:25.51 | themill | mesa_booger: many find info is an annoying program. Other info viewers less so but often still more convoluted than required. |
| 13:27.26 | bzrk | themill: what do you base that on? who are those "many"? |
| 13:27.41 | sattam | how to make apt install only security update ? |
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| 13:28.32 | xa_ | KDE geeks told me I need kde 3 dev libs |
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| 13:28.40 | xa_ | what are thse namred on debian? |
| 13:29.09 | xa_ | named* |
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| 13:29.42 | Hideme | Can anyone tell me how to get python 2.6 under Debian lenny? |
| 13:29.53 | bzrk | xa_: try apt-get search kdelibs |
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| 13:30.51 | gmap | i created a debian chroot using debootstrap on my ubuntu system. If i wanted to install grub on the debian chroot, would i have do it through the grub utility or can i simply copy the grub files from my host to the debian chroot. |
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| 13:34.08 | sattam | in fedora we got SELinux , in debian ? |
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| 13:34.48 | bzrk | sattam: selinux too |
| 13:35.12 | themill | sattam: /msg dpkg search |
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| 13:35.26 | sattam | sorry |
| 13:35.40 | bzrk | sattam: no need to be :) |
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| 13:36.42 | genericType | The way to remove what you just installed (including dependencies and such) would be "aptitude purge PACKAGE" right? |
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| 13:37.13 | themill | genericType: yes, remembering that purge will also delete config files (you may or may not want that) |
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| 13:37.26 | antii | hmm, what is the program called that is almost like phpsysinfo? |
| 13:37.55 | JPT | webmin? |
| 13:38.14 | genericType | themill: It seems that when I installed the package xfce4, it installed what i needed (listed as 24mb) and purging freed up 21mb. is that normal? it seems as though it left some things behind. |
| 13:38.16 | antii | hmm no |
| 13:38.26 | antii | JPT: you can monitor some things with it :o |
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| 13:39.22 | helo | does a bridge have to have an ip address on the network interface it is using? |
| 13:39.38 | genericType | themill: yes, synaptic shows xfce4 stuff lingering. I guess I can just remove it there. |
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| 13:44.26 | hesco | I'm building a dual-boot machine, with Lenny on a usb external drive. /dev/hda1 is ntfs and I am reluctant to risk client data with parted. Attempts to grub-install pointing at /dev/sdb2 for access to grub/menu.1st yields Error 15 on reboot. Can anyone advise how I can make this installation bootable? |
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| 13:49.10 | module000 | hesco: so you are installing grub to /dev/hda with a boot option to /dev/sdb2? |
| 13:49.52 | hesco | module000: yes, that is right |
| 13:50.27 | module000 | hesco: and /dev/sdb2 is a USB device? if so..that's why. sdb2 hasnt' been assigned as sbd2 yet at boot time |
| 13:50.53 | patrikf | hesco: I don't think grub can load itself off usb drives. |
| 13:51.01 | Mac101 | hey anyone admin a box with encrypted root that they can reboot via ssh? |
| 13:51.13 | patrikf | at least not with an mbr on hda... |
| 13:51.13 | module000 | hesco: you need to either make the USB drive bootable and set the BIOS to grab it first int he boot order....or place it on the primary drive |
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| 13:52.09 | hesco | right. tinkering in the BIOS, I'm not seeing any option for making the usb drive bootable |
| 13:52.41 | module000 | hesco: older machines didn't support USB booting. you should probably install it to the main drive |
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| 13:53.18 | module000 | hesco: backup your clients data first [if you must] on the usb drive if you are concerned about the ability of parted not to function correctly |
| 13:53.20 | hesco | this is a Gateway, perhaps 6 or 8 years old. |
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| 13:53.32 | module000 | hesco: a good chance it won't boot on USB then |
| 13:53.59 | hesco | can knoppix restore a tar.gz to an NTFS w/o corruption? |
| 13:54.25 | module000 | hesco: you mean a tar.gz of an entire disk? or just a few files? |
| 13:54.39 | hesco | entire ntfs partition |
| 13:54.53 | module000 | hesco: yes - the files would be restored. but things like the bootloader would need to be reloaded |
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| 13:55.16 | hesco | which could be done with superGRUB, I know how to do that |
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| 13:55.34 | hesco | any other risks to the process? |
| 13:55.45 | helo | does a bridge have to have an ip address on the network it is passing traffic on, or can i just specify the network and broadcast addresses somehow? |
| 13:56.32 | module000 | hesco: nah. the probability of parted failing is also very low, your backup probably won't even be needed |
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| 13:56.55 | hesco | ok, risking it then, thanks for the help |
| 13:57.00 | module000 | hesco: also, you could use gparted to "copy partition" and do a raw backup of the entire partition onto the usb drive |
| 13:57.09 | module000 | (if you have enough space on the usb disk) |
| 13:58.02 | helo | iface br0 inet manual |
| 13:58.24 | hesco | gparted does not seem available on this knoppix disk |
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| 14:00.48 | hesco | parted print says: |
| 14:00.52 | hesco | Number Start End Size Type File system Flags |
| 14:00.52 | hesco | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.12 | hesco | does that mean there are 32.3kb free at start of disk? |
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| 14:01.57 | hesco | is there a way to renumber things so I could squeeze a new partition in at the beginning w/o actually resizing hda1? |
| 14:02.11 | betz | ok, i think i did the upgrade to lenny :) i changed everythin in my sources.list file, aptitude update, aptitude upgrade and aptitude dist-upgrade. Everything seems ok now. How can i check this for certain? |
| 14:02.14 | Ace2017_- | why would you want a 32.3kb partition? |
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| 14:02.44 | Ace2017_- | hesco: well if you resized hda1 and made a new partition at the start it would become hda2 |
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| 14:03.26 | hesco | trying to get this thing to boot from the usb drive w/ least risk to legacy system and data |
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| 14:16.22 | Mac101 | hey anyone admin a box with encrypted root that they can reboot via ssh? |
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| 14:22.11 | hesco | can parted create an NTFS ??? |
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| 14:23.21 | abrotman | !tias |
| 14:23.22 | dpkg | somebody said tias was try it and see, or what you should have done first. |
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| 14:24.45 | hesco | abrotman: tias risks me corrupting client data unable to restore their legacy system. I was hoping for the wisdom of others who might have gone down this road before. |
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| 14:25.25 | abrotman | why are you creating a partition on top of existing data ? |
| 14:26.15 | hesco | I have a hard dive full with an existing partition and data |
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| 14:26.34 | hesco | I need to make room for a partition large enough to boot a usb drive from |
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| 14:28.22 | FoxM | Hi. I am using debian squeeze with non-free nvidia drivers and KDE4, but some windows background like Konsole's are all messed and garbled. I think it is an issue with the drivers because the 'nv' drivers work fine. Can I install the sid version of the nvidia driver without 'upgrading' the whole system? |
| 14:28.34 | pluesch0r | hi everybody. i'm running xen 3.2 with kernel 2.6.26 on amd64 hardware and i've got a LOT of kernel errors in dmesg (http://pastie.org/517598), the domain is working though .. how do i fix this? |
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| 14:29.37 | hesco | ok, attempted to mkpart NTFS on /dev/sda12, but told : Error: Too many primary partitions. |
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| 14:30.20 | pluesch0r | that guy seems to have the same problem, but no fix: http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2009-06/msg04208.html |
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| 14:32.05 | hesco | can anyone please advise whether parted will be able to create an uncorrupted NTFS partition should I start resizing the one I got? |
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| 14:35.34 | adb | hesco: ask #windows |
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| 14:37.16 | pluesch0r | nobody using xen in here and able to answer my question? |
| 14:37.43 | hark | hesco: how many primary partitions do you have? |
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| 14:38.51 | hark | #windows is not the right place for parted questions |
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| 14:43.02 | adb | hark: hesco has 4 primary partitions ... |
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| 14:43.33 | adb | well 3 , and try do 4-th |
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| 14:45.44 | adb | hark: hesco try to use parted to save a windows system ... |
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| 14:46.50 | ajavid | good monring |
| 14:46.54 | coldboot | When you run dpkg-buildpackage, how do you change what gets passed to configure? |
| 14:47.18 | awoodland | debian/rules normally calls it |
| 14:48.04 | ajavid | specify -R I suppose and use a certain rules file |
| 14:48.31 | ajavid | something eles perhaps |
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| 14:49.13 | coldboot | If the build fails, and I run dpkg-buildpackage again, will it restart the build, or continue? |
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| 14:49.54 | JPT | it will kind of restart it.. |
| 14:49.56 | themill | coldboot: clean is normally called first |
| 14:50.06 | hark | adb: just read the lastlog, anyway seems to be running knoppix |
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| 14:50.32 | adb | live knoppix ... |
| 14:50.59 | dhblewis | hi, i have a vps with debian it was rebuilt and now I get this message when ssh Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password). |
| 14:51.12 | coldboot | themill: Is there a way to override that so it just continues? |
| 14:51.55 | themill | coldboot: debian/rules is a makefile; "debian/rules binary" will continue the build |
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| 14:52.24 | themill | coldboot: also man dpkg-buildpackage and looka t the -nc option |
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| 14:53.32 | coldboot | themill: Thanks |
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| 14:53.59 | asg | dhblewis: is your public key in .ssh/authorized_keys on the rebuilt system? Are the perms on .ssh and authorized_keys correct? |
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| 14:54.03 | Hideme | Can anyone tell me how to get python 2.6 under Debian lenny? |
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| 14:55.35 | asg | Hideme: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 14:57.21 | dhblewis | asg probably not. but how can i put them in if I dont have access |
| 14:58.00 | asg | dhblewis: ask whomever rebuilt the vps to do it for you. Or, get them to give you a password and login with that to fix your keys. |
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| 15:00.32 | Hideme | asg Nothing for 2.6 on backports.org |
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| 15:00.47 | asg | Hideme: you might try backporting it yourself (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) or, if you have to, get compile it from source or see if there is a binary distirbution at python.org |
| 15:01.01 | asg | Hideme: otherwise, you'll have to make do with python2.5 in lenny |
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| 15:07.11 | Zambezi | Anyone experience problems with fglrx-drivers in Squeeze? I had no problems in Lenny, but alot with Squeeze. No big desktop, blinking while scrolling in Fx etc. |
| 15:07.20 | dhblewis | asg how do i find the key to put on the remote machine? |
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| 15:08.08 | asg | dhblewis: it's in your client's ~/.ssh directory (usually id_rsa.pub or id_dsa.pub) |
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| 15:08.16 | bzrk | Hideme: you could try running a mixed system unstable/lenny |
| 15:08.28 | bzrk | if python 2.6 is in unstable that is |
| 15:09.16 | bzrk | check this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=15612 out |
| 15:09.47 | dhblewis | asg thanks! |
| 15:09.49 | xtalmath1 | On http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable I click amd64, and Im dropped like a bad habit into an http folder index, with cd images numbered from 1 to 31... is the whole set of cds the install cd collection or are they different flavours of supplied packages? |
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| 15:12.46 | pluesch0r | anybody? xen problems on amd64 lenny? |
| 15:13.26 | awoodland | I have xen on amd64 lenny |
| 15:13.36 | awoodland | and i386 lenny |
| 15:13.43 | adb | dpkg: tell xtalmath1 about netinstall |
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| 15:14.26 | asarch | I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wireless card, how many DVDs (DVD-1, DVD-2, etc) do I need to have the wireless support with Debian (I also downloaded the ucode)? |
| 15:14.52 | awoodland | the only domU i've tried on lenny/xen/amd64 is gnu hurd i386 |
| 15:14.58 | adb | dpkg: tell a fender0107401 bout netinstall |
| 15:15.06 | adb | dpkg: tell a fender0107401 about netinstall |
| 15:15.17 | valan | asarch i think the firmware is on dvd1 |
| 15:15.25 | valan | you just have to enable non-free on that disc |
| 15:15.30 | valan | don't quote me on that though |
| 15:15.30 | asarch | Yes! Thank you very much valan |
| 15:15.32 | asarch | :-) |
| 15:15.40 | valan | i honestly don't remember if i'm right |
| 15:15.55 | patrikf | asarch: can't you just plug an ethernet cable in for install? |
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| 15:16.08 | patrikf | then you can get away with netinstall and save yourself some gigs of unnecessary traffic. |
| 15:16.14 | valan | but, if you downloaded the ucode anyway, you don't need to worry |
| 15:16.15 | fender0107401 | me |
| 15:16.17 | fender0107401 | ? |
| 15:16.38 | valan | just put the ucode in /lib/firmware |
| 15:16.40 | asarch | The Ethernet port doesn't work. My dog pull the cable very hard and pum! Goodbye Ethernet port :'-( |
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| 15:17.21 | valan | in fact, by default, debian will complain on the console about not finding the firmware to load |
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| 15:17.41 | valan | i finally gave in and grabbed the firmware, i was too lazy to blacklist the module heh |
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| 15:18.07 | adb | dpkg: tell fender0107401 about netinstall |
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| 15:18.49 | SparFux | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.14 | pluesch0r | awoodland: and you didn't get a sh*tload of dmesg output, right? |
| 15:19.21 | MrWax | Anyone in here experienced with using Virtualbox VMWare OS ? |
| 15:19.30 | pluesch0r | like the one in http://pastie.org/517598 ? |
| 15:19.42 | valan | Virtualbox VMWare OS? how interesting |
| 15:19.42 | awoodland | I didn't get anything unusual on i386 |
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| 15:20.03 | awoodland | but I've only tried hurd on amd64 |
| 15:20.07 | valan | first off, they are two different products from two different companies, and second, neither is an os |
| 15:20.14 | awoodland | so I don't know if there is anything going on |
| 15:20.17 | Nickname | MrWax: Yeah it runs my Ubuntu Vista 64 bit edition quite nicely |
| 15:20.18 | Nickname | lol |
| 15:20.26 | pluesch0r | awoodland: what about amd64? |
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| 15:20.34 | MrWax | Nickname: can you connect to the OS with your hosts system |
| 15:20.40 | awoodland | I was going to test amd64 tonight |
| 15:20.42 | pluesch0r | 'cause that thing is writing 'bout 100 lines a second. |
| 15:20.49 | awoodland | which kernel are you using? standard lenny one for both dom0/domU? |
| 15:20.52 | pluesch0r | in my syslog. which doesn't make me happy. at all. |
| 15:20.55 | pluesch0r | yes. |
| 15:21.01 | pluesch0r | hypervisor 3.2-1-amd64 |
| 15:21.10 | pluesch0r | kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 15:21.24 | pluesch0r | got the modules installed in the paravirt linux instance. which is a lenny, doo. |
| 15:21.26 | pluesch0r | s/doo/too/ |
| 15:21.56 | awoodland | will see if I can find my home adsl from work :) |
| 15:22.01 | valan | MrWax you should probably first figure out which software you're using, then go to the channel for that software |
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| 15:24.19 | awoodland | am on it, will test :) |
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| 15:26.18 | xtalmath1 | well netinstall would be nice but Im on wireless and also need vpnc is this achievable with netinstall? I know wireless and vpn settings, wouldnt know what files to prepare so I can have netinstall use them to connect... |
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| 15:27.22 | valan | i did netinstall over wireless at one point, had to get the firmware myself though as the netinstall didn't come with it |
| 15:27.27 | valan | i don't mess with vpn though |
| 15:27.40 | winkleer | i need help to stop users http tunneling over my ssh. was wondering if the "Tunnel no" line in my ssh config is just for that. |
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| 15:28.16 | tnks | thinking of running a work-internal IRC server. seems like there's a few packages. Is one in particular highly recommended? |
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| 15:28.27 | SparFux | I am the man with the strange errors with no bad effect! How can I cope with this message, aptitude gives me on package installation: http://pastebin.com/d61f2d9e |
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| 15:29.22 | Tapout | with iptables, how do you get the counts of each rule? iptables --list , I thought listed it. I want to see if my DROP rule is dropping any packets |
| 15:29.53 | awoodland | iptables -n |
| 15:30.14 | awoodland | I normally use iptables -L -x -vv -n out of habit I think |
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| 15:30.25 | antii | hmm, why is phpsysinfo showing my domain & (internal ip)? how can i remove the internal ip from it? |
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| 15:30.52 | valan | winkleer i believe you're right, but a google search on "ssh disable tunneling" should prove useful |
| 15:31.07 | Tapout | awoodland, 'no command specified' |
| 15:31.46 | winkleer | okay thanks valan |
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| 15:33.04 | awoodland | it's pretty explicit with the -vv |
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| 15:35.49 | badcloud | anyone know which command usually comes after swap activation on boot? |
| 15:36.13 | badcloud | I'm getting a mount error right after |
| 15:36.28 | badcloud | but can't located the script to see what's wrong |
| 15:36.35 | Python1320 | Anyone knows if it's possible for a user to define his own domain servers he wants to use in case the system's default dns is .. well.. crap and admin is nowhere near |
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| 15:37.14 | phillipsm | Python1320: edit resolv.conf? |
| 15:37.26 | Python1320 | phillipsm, not admin |
| 15:37.27 | Python1320 | no sudo |
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| 15:37.56 | awoodland | you can tell nslookup or something to do it for specific instances |
| 15:37.56 | phillipsm | Python1320: i don't think you can do any networking stuff without admin |
| 15:38.03 | Python1320 | okay |
| 15:38.05 | awoodland | nslookup www.google.com @192.168.1.1 |
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| 15:43.36 | nkuttler | badcloud: pastebin the error |
| 15:44.18 | badcloud | nkuttler, thanks, I'll have to do that later, as I have no way to ssh to my device and cut paste |
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| 15:44.52 | bassliner | what does "virtual package" mean when speaking about aptitude? |
| 15:45.26 | awoodland | pluesch0r: lenny domU is installing as we speak through D-I |
| 15:45.33 | antii | hmm, why is phpsysinfo showing my domain & (internal ip)? how can i remove the internal ip from it? |
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| 15:47.35 | nkuttler | antii: isn't that just a php script? try ##php |
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| 15:49.09 | antii | nkuttler: yep :S |
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| 15:54.11 | Zambezi | Anyone using big desktop (two monitors) in Squeeze? I just need to know it works. |
| 15:55.01 | petllama | in webmin, is it possible to execute an sh script that requires user input? |
| 15:55.08 | qbwdp | is squeeze a desktop manager? |
| 15:55.58 | nkuttler | !tell petllama about webmin |
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| 15:56.47 | petllama | lol..... |
| 15:57.00 | petllama | its that bad huh? |
| 15:58.04 | gmap | how does emdebian work? i first install a minimal debian using debootstrap and then run emddebian tool chain which will shrink it even smaller or what? |
| 15:58.59 | nkuttler | gmap: try #embedian @ oftc |
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| 16:00.10 | starenka | hi all. could you recommend a simple way how to run a script a root on kde start? thanks |
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| 16:00.19 | starenka | s/a/as |
| 16:00.32 | nkuttler | starenka: use sudo? |
| 16:01.23 | starenka | so i put it into .kde/Autostart and modify sudoers? |
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| 16:01.38 | starenka | +it |
| 16:02.03 | nkuttler | starenka: i don't know about kde, but using sudo inside the script for whatever needs root privs should work |
| 16:03.09 | starenka | well, maybe is there another way how to acomplish the same... i just need to reload alsa on each boot.. |
| 16:03.24 | nkuttler | boot? |
| 16:03.53 | starenka | (i think kde autostart sound fucks that up, and then xine is no working, cause some process is using the soundcard..) |
| 16:04.07 | starenka | neverthless reloading alsa solves that |
| 16:04.25 | starenka | and i need to do it automatically, cause my gfriend doesnt wield the konsole :)) |
| 16:04.27 | nkuttler | starenka: hm, doesn't kde still use that artsd thing? try disabling it |
| 16:04.42 | nkuttler | starenka: however, just sudoing the init script is enough |
| 16:04.55 | starenka | i've just realized it now, while typing, that kde should be on blame |
| 16:05.02 | starenka | okay thanks a lo |
| 16:05.04 | mesa_booger | arts or phonon, depending kde3/4. best turned right off |
| 16:05.05 | starenka | +t |
| 16:05.28 | starenka | its kde3 |
| 16:06.38 | mesa_booger | k menu -> control centre -> sound & multimedia -> sound system |
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| 16:07.29 | starenka | mesa_booger: and? just turn of the ss? |
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| 16:09.44 | mesa_booger | starenka: that's what i did. uncheck that box and suddenly life becomes that much easier |
| 16:10.10 | Orbixx | How can I upgrade my iptables version on Etch to the latest available version in the Debian repositories? |
| 16:10.17 | starenka | mesa_booger: i'm quite confused, this just disables sound for KDE, not apps running in KDE, right? |
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| 16:10.56 | stuckey | Hi, I'm trying to boot another os. I added what I thought were the right lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but when I try to boot the os I get a bunch of erros about stuff not being found. |
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| 16:12.15 | wubrgamer | why is this channel's bot named dpkg? |
| 16:12.52 | MindCr | why not? |
| 16:12.59 | mesa_booger | starenka: it disables the silly system sounds, like opening & closing windows etc. all normal sound (make sure it is *alsa*, not oss, pulse, arts, esd or any other nonsense) works fine |
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| 16:13.42 | starenka | mesa_booger: neat. thanks a heap |
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| 16:20.43 | glock71 | default install of debian sendmail isn't delivering mail, any ideas where to start? |
| 16:20.59 | nkuttler | glock71: define deliver |
| 16:21.18 | nkuttler | glock71: and why do you use sendmail? |
| 16:21.47 | glock71 | nkuttler: i'm using php to send email from a script, its not working, |
| 16:22.11 | glock71 | nkuttler: php uses sendmail, so i decided to see if the bin sendmail is working to find out where the problem lies |
| 16:22.28 | glock71 | nkuttler: and the bin sendmail isn't sending email |
| 16:22.38 | nkuttler | glock71: every mta should provide a sendmail binary |
| 16:23.04 | nkuttler | glock71: exim is quite easy to configure |
| 16:23.07 | Zambezi | glock71: msmtp works nice. |
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| 16:23.23 | themill | glock71: php can use anything that provides /usr/sbin/sendmail -- use something other than the "sendmail" package for this though |
| 16:23.45 | glock71 | themill: what do you suggest |
| 16:24.14 | themill | glock71: exim is probably the easiest to get working straight away as nkuttler suggested |
| 16:24.21 | mesa_booger | postfix has a good rep, in some quarters |
| 16:24.29 | glock71 | Zambezi: i'm going to try msmtp |
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| 16:25.00 | Zambezi | glock71: Remember. You get procmail+getmail to recieve emails too. |
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| 16:27.09 | ajehals | Hi, I'm having a problem installing debian from a usbstick on a X41 when using an encrypted lvm |
| 16:27.17 | fender0107401 | hi all, when i run "halt -p" to shutdown my system, the system always prompt me: "stopping portmap daemon..." and hang on |
| 16:27.20 | Zambezi | I installed xorg without non-contrib and non-free activated i sources.list. Does that really matter that I added them after dist-upgrade? Cause Xorg really behaves odd for me. |
| 16:27.33 | ajehals | the issue seems to be that crypsetup ends up with the wrong device to try and decrypt... |
| 16:27.55 | ajehals | I can use the promt ti decrypt the filesystem, but the have issues bringing the lvm in... |
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| 16:29.08 | adb | fender0107401: use instead 'shutdown -h now' . | bash: halt: command not found |
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| 16:29.37 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
| 16:29.39 | ajehals | It seems that disks are reordered after install (sda is sdb during the install but not at boot) |
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| 16:30.37 | fender0107401 | i just configed my iptables, seems related. |
| 16:31.10 | Oleg_ | People, I am trying to install build and header files for my kernel, but when I run this command: |
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| 16:31.18 | Oleg_ | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 16:31.35 | Oleg_ | I get the message: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32 |
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| 16:32.21 | Oleg_ | why do I get this message? Do I need to add something to the source.lst? |
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| 16:32.32 | themill | Oleg_: that's not a debian kernel though. |
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| 16:33.01 | Oleg_ | themill: what do you mean? I think this computer is running Debian Lenny. |
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| 16:33.55 | themill | Oleg_: that kernel is most definitely not part of Debian Lenny. What's "cat /proc/version" look like? |
| 16:34.41 | Oleg_ | Linux version 2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32 (root@kernel-32.ovh.net) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1) ) #5 SMP Wed Apr 1 13:09:49 UTC 2009 |
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| 16:36.00 | themill | Oleg_: Definitely not a debian kernel then. Perhaps one provided by your hosting company? |
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| 16:36.31 | Oleg_ | themill: so, it's a Debian system that is running a non-Debian kernel? |
| 16:36.52 | themill | Oleg_: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1" say? |
| 16:36.59 | mesa_booger | grsec is some sort of hardening patches ? |
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| 16:37.43 | themill | yeah |
| 16:38.12 | Oleg_ | ii libc6 2.7-18 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 16:38.36 | themill | Oleg_: ok, so the rest of your box looks lenny-like, but yes, it has a custom kernel. |
| 16:38.46 | jelly | Oleg_: (the rest of) debian (system) doesn't really care which kernel you're running in general |
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| 16:40.08 | jelly | Oleg_: the provider might have left the kernel source tree under /usr/src/ (named linux or linux-version or similar) |
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| 16:40.43 | Nationiant | Hey |
| 16:40.54 | Nationiant | Can you install Debian to a Macintosh PoweerBook G3? |
| 16:40.56 | Nationiant | Powerbook* |
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| 16:41.51 | hphubert | witam |
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| 16:42.41 | hphubert | chcialbym sie zapytac, ktory plik jest logiem z uruchamiania systemu? |
| 16:43.04 | Oleg_ | jelly: there are only a bunch of empty directories there. Maybe I need to download the full source code for 2.6.27.10 kernel from www.kernel.org? |
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| 16:43.25 | adb | Nationiant: yes, try #debianppc |
| 16:43.35 | kurrata | hi, i made usb with boot image with "dd if=boot.img of=/dev/sdc" but nowwhen i want to write netinstall iso im that usb it says that i dont have any rights. cant change premision with chmod or owner with chown to |
| 16:43.40 | Nationiant | adb: thanks |
| 16:43.51 | adb | np |
| 16:43.59 | jelly | Oleg_: that won't help. Ask your provider for the actual tree. |
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| 16:44.09 | jelly | Oleg_: what do you need the source for? |
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| 16:45.38 | dhblewis | how do i delete multiple subfolders even if not empty i tried rmdir -r folder but didn't work |
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| 16:46.55 | MadMoney | I want to turn off the backlight my server's LCD. Any ideas? |
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| 16:47.02 | mesa_booger | i don't like the look of this bullet point about grsec - "O(1) time efficiency for most operations". what does "most" mean ? and is it O(Ncubed) for the "unusual" cases ? |
| 16:47.02 | Koper | Hi how can I install gcc 4.4 on debian? |
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| 16:47.03 | nkuttler | dhblewis: rm -rfiv |
| 16:47.06 | Oleg_ | jelly: I am trying to install VirtualBox 3.0 Beta1 and I ran this: |
| 16:47.09 | Oleg_ | ./VirtualBox-3.0.0_BETA1-48728-Linux_x86.run |
| 16:47.09 | Oleg_ | Verifying archive integrity... All good. |
| 16:47.09 | Oleg_ | Uncompressing VirtualBox for Linux installation........ |
| 16:47.09 | Oleg_ | VirtualBox Version 3.0.0_BETA1 r48728 (2009-06-16T17:04:02Z) installer |
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| 16:47.18 | Oleg_ | Problems were found which would prevent VirtualBox from installing. |
| 16:47.19 | MadMoney | I want to turn off the backlight my server's LCD. Any ideas? |
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| 16:47.23 | Oleg_ | Please correct these problems and try again. |
| 16:47.26 | nkuttler | !tell Oleg_ about pastebin |
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| 16:47.56 | themill | Koper: in squeeze and sid, aptitude install gcc-4.4 |
| 16:48.03 | Oleg_ | ok, sorry |
| 16:48.07 | jelly | Oleg_: ok, so you are, among other things, trying to build a module for your running kernel. |
| 16:48.32 | MadMoney | I want to turn off the LCD/blacklight on my server when the terminal blanks. |
| 16:48.34 | Koper | themill: what if it's neither? |
| 16:48.44 | jelly | Oleg_: you'll have to get the real source for your kernel, with correct headers and .config |
| 16:48.55 | MadMoney | My server is a laptop. |
| 16:49.01 | jelly | Oleg_: (or you can use a different kernel you have the source available for) |
| 16:49.08 | themill | Koper: then work in a squeeze or sid chroot -- to create one, /msg dpkg debootstrap |
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| 16:49.28 | Koper | themill: even better.. how can I know what kind of debian it is? |
| 16:49.31 | Koper | Like squeeze, etc |
| 16:49.35 | Oleg_ | jelly: well, I can simply download the source code for some kernel from kernel.org |
| 16:49.37 | Koper | It's not mine i've never used debian before |
| 16:49.51 | nkuttler | Koper: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 16:49.59 | Koper | 5.0 |
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| 16:50.39 | MadMoney | My LCD backlight won't turn off in GNU/Debian. |
| 16:50.40 | nkuttler | Koper: outdated lenny |
| 16:50.41 | MadMoney | Please help. |
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| 16:50.52 | MadMoney | Lenny is 4.0 |
| 16:51.04 | themill | MadMoney: err... no it's not |
| 16:51.12 | jelly | Oleg_: that, or just install and use a matching linux-image-version and linux-headers-version from the distro |
| 16:51.13 | MadMoney | Okay, I have 4.0. Whatever that is. |
| 16:51.22 | nkuttler | MadMoney: etch. time to upgrade. |
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| 16:51.47 | jtgiri | HI guys, I am trying to install debain 64bit on intel chip, do i need to download ia64 from this page ? http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 16:51.59 | jelly | jtgiri: no, amd64 |
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| 16:52.09 | dhblewis | thanks nkuttler |
| 16:52.43 | MadMoney | They should have gone with a non-brand specific architecture name. |
| 16:52.47 | MadMoney | amd64 is so confusing. |
| 16:53.00 | Oleg_ | jelly: you mean, I can simply download and install Debian Lenny kernel sources? |
| 16:53.20 | MadMoney | x86-64 would be less confusing. |
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| 16:53.36 | mamalujo | I've been playing with screen layout features. How do I toggle fullscreen? If I press C-a Q I get a fullscreen, But how to restore the layout again? I thouhg layout select name would do it, but that says, it is that layout? |
| 16:53.37 | jelly | Oleg_: I mean you can download lenny kernel _image_, reboot to that, and use its linux-headers- package |
| 16:53.42 | valan | you might not be able to Oleg_ |
| 16:53.42 | MadMoney | So, can I use ACPI to shut off my server's backlight (it's a Dell laptop)? |
| 16:53.47 | mesa_booger | MadMoney: what sort of laptop ? |
| 16:53.55 | MadMoney | Latitude P4 |
| 16:54.05 | valan | it's on a server? some sort of web host i'm guessing? |
| 16:54.06 | MadMoney | Having the backlight on all the time seems like a waste. |
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| 16:54.15 | nkuttler | !tell MadMoney about why amd64 |
| 16:54.21 | Oleg_ | valan: yeah, it's on a server |
| 16:54.22 | nkuttler | MadMoney: xset? |
| 16:54.27 | MadMoney | Maybe |
| 16:54.28 | valan | likely a vps? you probably can't use a custom kernel then |
| 16:54.42 | Oleg_ | valan: why not? I have a root access. |
| 16:54.42 | jelly | MadMoney: does "xset dpms force off" switch the screen off? |
| 16:54.58 | MadMoney | No, it is a laptop being used as a temporary web server at home. |
| 16:54.59 | Oleg_ | valan: it's a dedicated physical server |
| 16:55.05 | valan | oh ok |
| 16:55.11 | valan | then you should be fine |
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| 16:55.40 | MadMoney | Okay, obviously that load of rot from dpkg basically is an Intel flame. |
| 16:55.42 | MadMoney | Whatever. |
| 16:55.46 | valan | do you have physical access to it Oleg_ ? |
| 16:55.53 | MadMoney | I'll try xset dpms force on |
| 16:56.03 | mesa_booger | what does xbacklight do ? |
| 16:56.04 | Oleg_ | valan: yes |
| 16:56.10 | valan | ok then, go for it |
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| 16:56.12 | format_c | how is a small shoutbox on a website (like a guestbook but smaller) called in english? |
| 16:56.32 | valan | i just didn't want you creating an unbootable system you can't fix :) |
| 16:56.37 | MadMoney | Of course, I don't have X11 on here so I don't have xset. Any other ways? |
| 16:56.50 | hjb | anyone knows how to use the cd audio plugin of audacious? |
| 16:56.57 | jelly | MadMoney: setterm |
| 16:57.15 | valan | MadMoney i think you can use acpi to turn off the backlight |
| 16:57.22 | MadMoney | Yeah, acpi. |
| 16:57.23 | jelly | MadMoney: or just, you know, close the lide |
| 16:57.31 | jelly | lid* |
| 16:57.32 | MadMoney | Hmm. |
| 16:57.34 | valan | i can recall specifically if setterm can turn off the backlight or if it just blanks the screen |
| 16:57.39 | valan | *can't |
| 16:57.40 | MadMoney | Close the lid might work. |
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| 16:57.47 | nkuttler | MadMoney: not so good, could overheat |
| 16:58.06 | wald0 | how i can see how much MB is using an application ? (ram usage) by a command result (no top) |
| 16:58.07 | MadMoney | Really? Even a P42.4GHz? |
| 16:58.15 | valan | any cpu can overheat |
| 16:58.22 | nkuttler | laptops are usually designed to work with an open lid |
| 16:58.32 | nkuttler | but it's your hardware, do whatever you want |
| 16:58.35 | MadMoney | It will just hang if it overheats.. |
| 16:58.40 | MadMoney | Yeah. |
| 16:58.51 | valan | it doesn't shut down if it overheats? |
| 16:59.03 | Ambush | blah |
| 16:59.06 | Ambush | i hate heartburn |
| 16:59.21 | valan | my laptop confuses the hell outta me when it overheats |
| 16:59.23 | Koper | ok so.. How can I install ghc 6.10 on debian 5.0? :P |
| 16:59.23 | MadMoney | I don't think closing the lid is shutting off the blacklight or LCD anyway. |
| 16:59.36 | wald0 | is there a command to see the RAM usage of an application ? |
| 16:59.38 | valan | i think it's the battery, so i spend 10 mins trying to figure out why it's not getting power |
| 16:59.40 | MadMoney | valan: It could shut down or reboot if it overheats. |
| 16:59.43 | valan | then i realize it's overheated |
| 16:59.45 | MadMoney | wald0 top |
| 16:59.47 | MadMoney | wald0: or ps |
| 17:00.07 | MadMoney | ps aux | grep -i linuxvirus |
| 17:00.08 | Ambush | i have a laptop i use for a 'server' |
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| 17:00.19 | Ambush | its been up like 100+ days now |
| 17:00.21 | MadMoney | Ambush: How do you turn the screen off? |
| 17:00.25 | Ambush | its hilarious, laptop up for over 100 days |
| 17:00.31 | valan | i'm often using laptops for servers |
| 17:00.33 | nkuttler | has seen a lot of components die from overheating. permanently. |
| 17:00.39 | valan | 100 days is nothing special on a laptop ;) |
| 17:00.40 | Ambush | madmoney: first off, the screen will only COMPLETELY turn off im in X, not while im in console |
| 17:00.49 | Ambush | while in console, the screen will blank, but the backlight is still on |
| 17:00.52 | Ambush | in X, it completely turns off |
| 17:01.00 | nick_h | i have a cron job in /etc/cron.d/ that runs at "0 15,45 * * *". it ran once, seg faulted, and hasn't run since. any idea why it wouldn't run again?: http://pastie.org/517735 |
| 17:01.01 | MadMoney | Ambush: I don't want to install X :\ |
| 17:01.05 | valan | you must use acpi to turn off the backlight |
| 17:01.13 | Ambush | valan: i just put a new 7200rpm drive in it, its got 4 gigs of ram, and a c2d in it |
| 17:01.15 | MadMoney | Maybe there is an acpi command. |
| 17:01.15 | Ambush | it kicks ass :) |
| 17:01.31 | valan | my server laptops are panasonic toughbooks |
| 17:01.50 | valan | unfortunately, and not by my choice, they run server 2003 :( |
| 17:01.56 | Ambush | MadMoney: what i did for a long time is run my laptop on a big monitor, so there is a couple key presses you do, and it turns off the laptop monitor for good |
| 17:02.02 | Ambush | so you can use the main monitor, and keep the laptop open/shut |
| 17:02.05 | MadMoney | Hmm, acpid |
| 17:02.14 | wald0 | MadMoney: my result is "0.2%" of ram... is there something more detailed ? (in bytes or something like that) |
| 17:02.36 | MadMoney | wald0: If you can do multiplication, you'll know what the answer is. |
| 17:03.10 | valan | multiplication is overrated |
| 17:03.10 | MadMoney | wald0: (Within a certain amount of significant digits) |
| 17:03.10 | valan | calculatorization is superior |
| 17:03.10 | MadMoney | Factorization |
| 17:03.25 | Ambush | what's multiplication? |
| 17:03.29 | MadMoney | Division by the reciprocal is better than multiplication. |
| 17:03.37 | ajehals | Same issue with the testing netinstall image. This isn't muchfun |
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| 17:04.02 | MadMoney | And division is multiplication by the reciprocal inverse. |
| 17:04.42 | RoenieSrvr | ok now this is getting on my tits |
| 17:04.50 | valan | stop this nonsense we're not mathematicians in here! |
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| 17:04.57 | valan | we are debianticians! |
| 17:05.17 | MadMoney | Freenode is the maths network. |
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| 17:05.22 | MadMoney | All your base are belong to us. |
| 17:05.25 | fxiny | thinks division is a joy |
| 17:05.34 | jelly | Koper: you'd have to find a backport (/msg dpkg bpo), backport it (/msg dpkg ssb) or install from source |
| 17:05.41 | RoenieSrvr | every time after a reboot it's a complete gamble whether or not my tv card's audio will work, through the line-in on my creative audigy 1 carda |
| 17:05.45 | valan | freenode is the open projects network! |
| 17:05.45 | RoenieSrvr | *card |
| 17:05.56 | RoenieSrvr | usually doesn't work, sometimes it magically does |
| 17:05.59 | Koper | grrr T_T |
| 17:06.03 | MadMoney | Now go calculate -4^5 |
| 17:06.06 | Koper | ok jelly thanks |
| 17:06.16 | RoenieSrvr | it's not even tv app specific, not only kdetv has it |
| 17:06.18 | jelly | MadMoney, valan: please take it elsewhere |
| 17:06.40 | RoenieSrvr | it affects all tv apps i throw at it |
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| 17:06.51 | RoenieSrvr | what could be going on? |
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| 17:07.02 | RoenieSrvr | not having much luck looking at the logs |
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| 17:07.33 | RoenieSrvr | everything else seems to always work, like playing MP3s |
| 17:08.01 | jelly | Koper: (or use unstable, but I didn't tell you that) |
| 17:08.23 | Koper | What's wrong with using unstable? |
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| 17:08.32 | Koper | Besides it being usntable? |
| 17:08.52 | Koper | And is there a way to use unstable only for GHC and its dependencies? |
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| 17:09.09 | jelly | Koper: no, that way lies madness |
| 17:09.11 | valan | unstable tends to break a lot, but it also tends to get fixed a lot |
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| 17:11.20 | mamalujo | Ive had bad experiences with ghc 6.10 and certain additional xmonad libs in debian. and theres not that much haskell stuff packaged anyways |
| 17:11.38 | fxiny | Koper: why ghc6 6.10 ? |
| 17:12.18 | Koper | fxiny: i need a feature it has |
| 17:12.33 | mamalujo | theres a lot of interesting new things in 6.10 .. |
| 17:13.02 | mamalujo | also I think its needed for the new haskell platform packages.. |
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| 17:15.53 | fxiny | isn't ghc squeeze version 6.10.2 ? |
| 17:16.03 | fxiny | amphi: hey |
| 17:16.06 | mamalujo | no, only in sid i believe |
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| 17:17.01 | mamalujo | yes 6.8.2 is in squeeze. And its been over half a year since 6.10 |
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| 17:17.24 | fxiny | right , i'm told 6.10.2 is from source |
| 17:17.37 | mamalujo | ah, possibly |
| 17:18.22 | Koper | ok i downloaded 6.10.3 (the source) |
| 17:18.27 | Koper | Do i have to do anything special to install it? |
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| 17:18.34 | Koper | or just ./configure with no parameters and the usual? |
| 17:18.36 | fxiny | Koper: wait |
| 17:18.39 | fxiny | amphi: hey |
| 17:19.34 | Koper | fxiny: ? |
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| 17:20.20 | fxiny | Koper: sorry , can't get through someone who's on 6.10.2 from source , solar radiations maybe :) |
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| 17:21.01 | Koper | oh :O |
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| 17:22.28 | fxiny | i won't move my a* from lenny , i'll keep my stable xmonad |
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| 17:23.15 | mamalujo | heh :) |
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| 17:23.42 | fxiny | mamalujo: what new libs ? any interesting layout ? |
| 17:23.51 | JyZyXEL | why does my taskbar look like this in KDE: http://bayimg.com/image/jabgkaace.jpg |
| 17:23.58 | amphi | fxiny: quoi? |
| 17:24.28 | fxiny | amphi: see Koper ^^^ |
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| 17:24.41 | Koper | well i already installed it now |
| 17:24.42 | fxiny | Koper: here we have the 6.10.2 man |
| 17:24.43 | Koper | It seems to work :P |
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| 17:25.58 | mamalujo | um, actually Ive been told theres something interesting with having additional scratchpad terminal from teh xmonad repo, but I meant haskell stuff, not xmonad related, type lvl functions, nested data paralelism ... |
| 17:26.15 | fxiny | oh |
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| 17:26.44 | amphi | Koper: yeah - 6.10.2 works fine from src tarball here (at least well enough for xmonad ;) |
| 17:26.57 | Koper | I'm using it for geordi :P |
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| 17:27.52 | fxiny | i didn't know it , must be a super bot ! |
| 17:27.55 | mamalujo | Koper, cute thing, even has LaForge as logo :) |
| 17:28.14 | Koper | XD |
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| 17:34.26 | amphi | fxiny: XMonad.Layout.ComboP ;) |
| 17:34.29 | Oleg_ | People, if I enable the kernel based Virtual Machine support (KVM), what advantages, if any, will it give me over Sun's virtualbox product? |
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| 17:35.40 | EmleyMoor | Oleg_: Never used virtualbox. kvm is like qemu but faster |
| 17:36.01 | mamalujo | I think virtualbox derives from qemu as well, so would expect them to be similar. |
| 17:36.49 | Oleg_ | my local computer has gentoo installed and it runs Sun's VirtualBox, but maybe I should use kvm instead |
| 17:37.21 | fxiny | amphi: he , can't do it , i'm still on a magicfocus layout ;) |
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| 17:37.51 | mamalujo | Oleg_: top of my google search gives "Why? The benefits of KVM :- SMP (multiple processor support), and greater than 2GB available RAM for the guest. " |
| 17:38.16 | mamalujo | though wonder if its current info |
| 17:38.23 | Oleg_ | well, virtualbox can provide 16 GBs of RAM to a guest OS |
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| 17:38.56 | Oleg_ | By the way, I have a question. |
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| 17:39.22 | fxiny | virtual box 3.0 beta ? |
| 17:39.26 | Oleg_ | yes |
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| 17:40.21 | RoenieSrvr | rebooted, still no sound through the line-in |
| 17:40.42 | Oleg_ | I don't know if my hardware has the virtualization extensions (AMD-V). It is a e2140 processor. |
| 17:40.46 | smacnay | Hi, is there an issue with a fresh install of AMD64 and evolution? My evolution app is not starting and I get an odd error in output. Maybe there is a break in it. btw, I have updated the original install to sid. |
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| 17:41.22 | RoenieSrvr | the intel module isn't in the results of lsmod anymore |
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| 17:41.31 | Oleg_ | VirtualBox wasn't able to install a 64-bit OS; it was able to install a 32-bit OS |
| 17:41.37 | RoenieSrvr | emu10k1x is |
| 17:41.55 | sigmonsays | debian here getting " /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory" from gcc -o test test.c |
| 17:42.03 | Oleg_ | is it really possible that this e2140 processor doesn't support the AMD-V virtualization extension? |
| 17:42.07 | sigmonsays | anything i'm missing here? |
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| 17:42.32 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I just upgraded my server from Etch to Lenny the night before last, now today when I got up dovecot had died. I found out it was complaining about time moving backwards. It complained about 15 times about a two second step and once about a 1 second step. Then at the end it saw a 12 second step so it died. All the timestamps are the same except the last one which is 17 seconds before the rest. Any ideas? Thanks |
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| 17:47.17 | n00b | how can i download something to a specific location |
| 17:47.30 | n00b | for exam im my temp folder in main sytem directoris |
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| 17:48.25 | mamalujo | Oleg_ , AMD-V? wikiing e2140 is giving an me intel not AMD processors? |
| 17:48.25 | PovAddict | does apt-get build-dep mark packages as 'automatically installed'? |
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| 17:48.38 | patrikf | PovAddict: no |
| 17:48.47 | Oleg_ | mamalujo: e2140 is based on x86_64 amd, as far as I understand |
| 17:48.59 | PovAddict | meh, I just noticed why it can't do that |
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| 17:49.35 | LeveLSD | hello |
| 17:49.51 | Oleg_ | wait |
| 17:50.22 | Oleg_ | I think Intel virtualization technology is called VT-x |
| 17:50.24 | PovAddict | how do I build a debian package from source? there is a command that reads the 'rules' file and stuff, isn't it' |
| 17:50.28 | mamalujo | yes, precisely |
| 17:50.47 | mamalujo | Oleg_ in that case, Im afraid its quite possible your CPU doesnt support it |
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| 17:51.23 | LeveLSD | i have some problems trying to installing IRCu on Debian |
| 17:51.24 | LeveLSD | http://pastebin.com/m204e2732 |
| 17:51.56 | Oleg_ | mamalujo: dunno my server may support it though. dunno yet |
| 17:52.07 | Oleg_ | *if |
| 17:52.29 | n00b | how do i download to a spcific location |
| 17:52.32 | Oleg_ | I mean, I dunno if the server supports VT-x |
| 17:53.04 | mamalujo | Oleg_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_microprocessors#.22Wolfdale-2M.22_.2845_nm.29 says only some wolfdale-2m core cpu-s support it, and e2140 is listed as an earlier conroe cpu |
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| 17:54.15 | fxiny | n00b: man wget |
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| 17:58.18 | LeveLSD | i have some problems trying to install IRCu on Debian... here is the log http://pastebin.com/m204e2732 |
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| 18:02.57 | Oleg_ | mamalujo: but the e2140 processor is based on the amd technology, so I dunno why Intel and AMD have different virtualization technologies (VT-x and AMD-V) |
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| 18:04.16 | Oleg_ | all x86_64 processors are based on the AMD technology, as far as I understand |
| 18:04.38 | Oleg_ | and e2140 is an x86_64 processor. |
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| 18:11.19 | Oleg_ | okay, I got an aswer to this question in another channel |
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| 18:11.49 | LeveLSD | ? |
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| 18:12.28 | zeus | hi all! |
| 18:12.38 | LeveLSD | hi |
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| 18:12.42 | non_dumb | hello |
| 18:13.02 | zeus | How can I contact the maintainer of a mirror? I want to contact the maintainer of ftp.cl.debian.org |
| 18:13.14 | zeus | I just found the sponsor |
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| 18:14.05 | non_dumb | you'd probably want to talk to someone that is connected with the website |
| 18:14.12 | non_dumb | right? |
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| 18:14.39 | stew | zeus: you might ask http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors #debian-mirrors on irc.debian.org |
| 18:14.59 | zeus | stew: thank you!! |
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| 18:18.03 | Zambezi | If I install packages with dependencies in a comment repo, aptitude suggest a solution, if I afterward activate the repo, will the "old" dependencies then be installed? |
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| 18:20.10 | leoechevarria | hi there |
| 18:20.20 | leoechevarria | ehmm guys, i got a question |
| 18:20.40 | LeveLSD | leoechevarria ask |
| 18:20.43 | leoechevarria | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.46 | leoechevarria | any idea? |
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| 18:25.45 | hark | leoechevarria: install alsa-utils |
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| 18:31.19 | nick_h | i have a cron job in /etc/cron.d/ that runs at "0 15,45 * * *". it ran once, seg faulted, and hasn't run since. any idea why it wouldn't run again?: http://pastie.org/517735 |
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| 18:34.52 | unjustice | Hi, I am having trouble updating my system and I keep getting an error that says "expected testing but got Lenny" I think my sources.list may be incorrect, but I am not sure. Can someone help me out? |
| 18:35.07 | non_dumb | could you paste your sources.list |
| 18:35.16 | non_dumb | !paste |
| 18:35.16 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 18:35.17 | unjustice | yes |
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| 18:38.19 | unjustice | non_dumb: http://paste.debian.net/39684/ |
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| 18:38.41 | SparFux | Hi all. What is the capath in curl in debian unstable? |
| 18:39.03 | keith4 | whoa |
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| 18:41.08 | \amethyst | SparFux: /etc/ssl/pki/ apparently |
| 18:41.27 | SteveK | quick question ,,, have an old P IV 1.7 ghz with 512 ram ,,, installed mepis but appears to load / run slow ,,, will straight debian with gnome / fluxbox make it run faster? |
| 18:41.32 | SparFux | I don't even have that directory installed. |
| 18:41.43 | \amethyst | SparFux: err, sorry, /etc/ssl/certs |
| 18:41.48 | \amethyst | SparFux: my bad |
| 18:42.02 | SparFux | hm... does not seem to work here. |
| 18:42.27 | \amethyst | SparFux: you have to hash your cert with c_rehash |
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| 18:43.44 | unjustice | non_dumb: does it check out, or do you think my problem stems from something else? |
| 18:43.45 | SparFux | amethyst: I downloaded a pem file which works with curl --cacert <pemfile> url , but when putting this file in the path, it does not work. |
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| 18:44.06 | SparFux | even not curl --capath /etc/ssl/certs/ https://www.mozilla.org/ works. |
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| 18:44.23 | muddd | woot |
| 18:45.03 | SparFux | That's strange again. |
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| 18:45.23 | SparFux | perhaps it only uses one file in that path? |
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| 18:47.19 | SparFux | so a downloaded pem file I am supposed to put it in /etc/ssl/certs |
| 18:47.26 | SparFux | then c_rehash /etc/ssl/certs |
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| 18:47.47 | SparFux | ah! As root!!!1 |
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| 18:48.11 | SparFux | still got error about ca. |
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| 18:49.08 | SparFux | cacert.pem => f73e89fd.0 unable to load certificate |
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| 18:50.08 | SparFux | but do I want to use self-signed certificates? These are certs signed by mozilla foundation. |
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| 18:52.39 | muddd | lol @ dako-kun's signoff sig |
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| 18:53.50 | unjustice | non_dumb: http://paste.debian.net/39686/ |
| 18:54.29 | SparFux | damn, esniper still gives me the cert error. |
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| 18:57.14 | adb | SparFux: it seems you like to spam us ... |
| 18:57.26 | SparFux | No, sorry. |
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| 19:02.49 | Malch | Weiner |
| 19:03.07 | Malch | weiner!! |
| 19:03.16 | Malch | hello?? |
| 19:03.23 | Malch | f |
| 19:03.23 | Malch | sdf |
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| 19:03.57 | Malch | ddfvgedfgdfgaasdas |
| 19:03.59 | Malch | sda |
| 19:04.00 | nkuttler | !ops Malch |
| 19:04.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: nkuttler complains about: Malch |
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| 19:04.07 | Malch | asd |
| 19:04.11 | Malch | df |
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| 19:04.23 | muddd | here comes the pitch |
| 19:04.31 | muddd | and he's gone! |
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| 19:07.58 | alarm | hello, how can i make proftpd to show the root directory for all users and not their home dir ? |
| 19:08.07 | CargolSS | where can i report spam? |
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| 19:08.55 | alarm | checked for the proftpd.conf but does not include anything about directories |
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| 19:09.27 | AlteKiet | Hi all, what is the best package to use to access files on a server/machine over http? |
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| 19:15.25 | ajavid | wget |
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| 19:15.44 | ajavid | !wget |
| 19:15.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, wget is an excellent file retrieval utility (HTTP and FTP) with many options, packaged for Debian. Winner of the greycat award for "Package Whose Man Page is Least Likely to be Read by Newbies". http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/ http://wget.addictivecode.org/ #wget on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:15.46 | babilen | AlteKiet: if you want to download files have a look at wget or curl |
| 19:15.58 | Oleg_ | people, by default, the support for SATA drives is enabled in a vanilla kernel source? For example, if you download vanilla sources and then immediately run make menuconfig on it, the support for SATA will be enabled in the config menu? |
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| 19:16.33 | rohan | i am using debian lenny, with kde desktop. i have an external hard drive formatted as ntfs. when i plug it in, and "Open it in a new window" using kde, i get a permissions error. how do i solve that? i think i need to set it so that ntfs-3g is alwys mounted as user read/write |
| 19:16.34 | non_dumb | unjustice you ever get help? |
| 19:16.47 | ajavid | rohan, you can't edit it |
| 19:16.50 | ajavid | !ntfs-3g |
| 19:16.51 | dpkg | [ntfs-3g] a user-space NTFS driver with write support and good performance. It is available in Lenny, or through backports.org for Etch (ask me about <backports.org etch> for instructions and see http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/ntfs-3g). Usage examples: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/#usage Ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
| 19:17.00 | ajavid | rohan, this is what you need |
| 19:17.09 | rohan | ajavid: then everytime i need to mount that ntfs external drive manually? |
| 19:17.45 | ajavid | rohan, #kde |
| 19:17.57 | ajavid | rohan, or #debian-kde on irc.debian.org too |
| 19:18.03 | pozic | Hi, I would like to send an xmessage to the user which is currently using an xsession. How can I do that? I am root and su'ed to that user and tried xmessage 'hi', but I got an error that the display was not valid. |
| 19:18.14 | ajavid | rohan, afaik, kde only mounts ntfs as read only, but can be configurd to do so via ntfs-3g |
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| 19:19.40 | rohan_ | ajavid: the problem with that is, my external hard drive is not plugged in 24x7, so i don't have an entry in fstab for it. |
| 19:19.53 | ajavid | http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/ |
| 19:20.29 | ajavid | I think this is what they incorporated into ubuntu |
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| 19:20.38 | ajavid | looks like it anyway |
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| 19:20.55 | rohan | ajavid: oh ok.. that was my next question - how do distros like fedora, ubuntu do it ;) |
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| 19:21.41 | ajavid | apparantly you need a modified version of pmount for automounting external devices |
| 19:21.48 | amphi | !ops seWda is purveying on-join pr0n spam |
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| 19:21.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: amphi complains about: seWda is purveying on-join pr0n spam |
| 19:21.59 | ajavid | I dunno |
| 19:22.10 | rohan | ah thanks, i was having the same seWda problem! |
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| 19:22.29 | tomaw | seems to be spamming slowly otherwise a2 would've hurt it by now |
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| 19:22.40 | rohan | ajavid: i think that ntfs-config is ubuntu-specific.. |
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| 19:23.00 | amphi | tomaw: heh |
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| 19:23.24 | ajavid | no its not |
| 19:23.44 | jmoncayo | hey guys, anyone here has trouble with pidgin? i am getting error with blist.xml every now and then |
| 19:23.54 | ajavid | http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/download/source/ntfs-config-1.0.1.tar.gz |
| 19:24.17 | derchris | can anybody kick/ban seWda. he is spaming porn site links |
| 19:24.18 | ajavid | obviously you'd need gtk-dev packagsk for it |
| 19:24.22 | cmyers | I am having the damnedest problem. I am running debian testing, fluxbox, and pidgin. And my pidgin contact list will scroll up and down, randomly, intermittently, while I have other windows focused and whether I am using the mouse or keyboard. It's like a ghost, it is really strange. Any ideas why this may be happening? |
| 19:24.26 | ajavid | if you're on kde you'd have to isntall them all |
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| 19:24.35 | rohan | ajavid: yes, i am downloading that, but in the distributions known to work,it's not included |
| 19:24.45 | amphi | !rejoice |
| 19:24.46 | dpkg | waves a finger in the air. "Yay." |
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| 19:24.57 | ajavid | rohan, kown to work == the guy tested only on those |
| 19:25.04 | ajavid | had he tested on debian, it would have been 'known' |
| 19:25.08 | ajavid | wtf, laughable man. |
| 19:25.18 | Oleg_ | Oh my God, I compiled and installed a new kernel on a remote server and after rebooting it, I can't ssh into it |
| 19:25.27 | Oleg_ | I hope I didn't make the server unbootable |
| 19:25.39 | amphi | ajavid: how's your moron? are you watering it frequently enough? |
| 19:25.47 | ajavid | I'm trying to man |
| 19:26.06 | Oleg_ | is there another way I can try to access the server besides ssh? |
| 19:26.22 | ajavid | if after kernel upgrade it doesn't respond to ssh, ping it |
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| 19:26.45 | ajavid | I think you won't even be able to ping it, you may have rendered it unbootabl |
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| 19:27.10 | Oleg_ | ping ns303515.ovh.net |
| 19:27.10 | Oleg_ | PING ns303515.ovh.net (94.23.206.176) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 19:27.12 | smacnay | What does a "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library" mean when starting an app like GCStar? |
| 19:27.16 | Oleg_ | what does it mean? |
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| 19:27.57 | \amethyst | smacnay: it means your LANG is wrong or you need to dpkg-reconfigure locales to build the files for your locale |
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| 19:28.34 | smacnay | \amethyst, ah, thanks |
| 19:28.34 | rohan | i have both gnome and kde installed. how do i completely get rid of gnome? |
| 19:28.41 | Oleg_ | ajavid: so, as you can see, it shows me "PING ns303515.ovh.net (94.23.206.176) 56(84) bytes of data." Does it mean it's unbootable now? |
| 19:28.53 | \amethyst | smacnay: locale -a will list all the locales you have built |
| 19:29.11 | cahoot | rohan: try /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 19:29.11 | \amethyst | smacnay: locale will list your current locale (configured in /etc/default/locale) |
| 19:29.21 | cmyers | Oleg_, it should be listing packets. If it isn't, then you probably horked it =( |
| 19:29.37 | Oleg_ | cmyers: I don't understand |
| 19:29.43 | cmyers | for comparison, "ping localhost" to see what it should look like |
| 19:29.49 | Oleg_ | --- ns303515.ovh.net ping statistics --- |
| 19:29.50 | Oleg_ | 112 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 111636ms |
| 19:30.08 | cahoot | it's very still |
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| 19:30.34 | Oleg_ | cmyers: damn, so the server is unbootable now and there is no way I can change it? |
| 19:30.38 | cmyers | ping just sends packets to the machine asking for a reply - it happens kernel-level, so if a machine isn't responding to pings, it is either not on, or the kernel is horked. |
| 19:30.48 | cmyers | Oleg_: possibly. that seems likely given what you have told us |
| 19:30.58 | cmyers | if it is a remote machine, you might have a serial console connection? |
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| 19:31.08 | Oleg_ | cmyers: which means? |
| 19:31.35 | Oleg_ | Maybe I can still boot the server remotely using some boot program? |
| 19:31.36 | cmyers | which means a serial console connection. Is this machine a colo? is it hosted by someone who knows what they are doing, or is it in a basement somewhere? |
| 19:31.57 | Oleg_ | yes, it's hosted by someone who knows what they are doing |
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| 19:32.21 | cmyers | then hopefully they have a console you can log into to fix it |
| 19:33.03 | cmyers | if not, you can ask them to fix it, and they will have to send a tech to the rack to manually fix it. |
| 19:33.04 | Oleg_ | it's responding now! |
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| 19:33.13 | ajavid | whew |
| 19:33.15 | Oleg_ | but dunno why it took the server such a long time to boot the new kernel |
| 19:33.17 | ajavid | what a lod off eh |
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| 19:33.22 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 19:33.27 | cmyers | hooray! maybe it just had to fsck or something. |
| 19:33.33 | ajavid | probably |
| 19:33.42 | ajavid | thats what it probably was |
| 19:33.47 | cmyers | usually a machine responds to pings during fsck though I think |
| 19:34.14 | ajavid | even if its the root fs |
| 19:34.22 | ajavid | umounted, with no config ...? |
| 19:34.53 | ajavid | I don't know enough, but i know that sounds unlikely |
| 19:35.04 | derchris | fsck is done before network is up |
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| 19:35.08 | Oleg_ | I don't understand. I typed uname -r and it still shows me an old kernel version |
| 19:35.32 | derchris | then it failed back to the old kernel ? |
| 19:35.34 | Zharf | did you boot to the new one? :) |
| 19:35.48 | Oleg_ | This is what I did: I compiled a new kernel and put the bzImage it in the /boot directory of the server |
| 19:35.53 | Oleg_ | then I ran lilo.conf |
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| 19:36.02 | Oleg_ | and put /boot/bzImage into it |
| 19:36.05 | smacnay | Is perl in AMD64 an issue right now? I am getting parser errors. |
| 19:36.07 | cmyers | whoa, Oleg_, is there a particular reason why you aren't doing it "the debian way"? |
| 19:36.18 | Oleg_ | and then I ran lilo |
| 19:36.22 | cmyers | manually moving around bzImage and whatnot is for suckers. |
| 19:36.30 | Oleg_ | and it told me that lilo updated |
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| 19:37.21 | \amethyst | Oleg_: does lilo.conf actually refer to /bzImage ? |
| 19:37.31 | cmyers | Oleg_: this is the doc I use: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
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| 19:37.36 | \amethyst | Oleg_: usually you'd use vmlinuz not bzImage |
| 19:37.48 | cmyers | the advantage is, the kernel is installed as part of your package management system and WAY easier to manage and ensure it is installed properly. |
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| 19:38.10 | cmyers | it also sets up initrd (if you use it) and makes sure it is installed correctly. |
| 19:38.32 | ewoerner | hi |
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| 19:38.59 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: it says in lilo.conf: image=/boot/bzImage |
| 19:39.08 | ewoerner | i've previously installed debian with disk encryption |
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| 19:39.36 | \amethyst | Oleg_: is that section the default boot? |
| 19:39.46 | ewoerner | now i want to add another encrypted disk to the setup |
| 19:40.39 | ewoerner | are there simple ways to do this (i.e. no asking for another key) |
| 19:40.41 | ewoerner | ? |
| 19:40.54 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: this is what's there: http://pastebin.com/m3016f87a |
| 19:41.43 | Oleg_ | so, I put the bzImage in that directory, then edited lilo.conf and then ran lilo |
| 19:41.46 | Oleg_ | and then rebooted |
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| 19:42.00 | \amethyst | Oleg_: oh, I have no idea about LILO and RAID... is it possible you're actually booting off a different mbr than the one lilo is configured for? |
| 19:42.06 | Oleg_ | but it looks like, it still booted to the old kernel |
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| 19:42.50 | \amethyst | hm |
| 19:43.20 | Oleg_ | booting off a different mbr? dunno |
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| 19:43.42 | Palmik | hi, can you help me pls? I find ISO unstable {sid} debian amd64 image - i dont find this... i find only ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Contents-amd64.gz - unetbootin install on flash, but dont working..... |
| 19:43.56 | \amethyst | hm... but mbr-only should write to the MBR of every disk in the RAID set... |
| 19:44.06 | Oleg_ | But maybe I am lucky that the old kernel booted; maybe it's possible I didn't configure the new kernel correctly and that with the new kernel, it would have not booted at all |
| 19:44.07 | rohan | ajavid: oh the solution was simple - i had to install fuse-utils and libfuse2, and add myself to the "fuse" group. thanks! |
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| 19:45.56 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: so, u dunno why the old kernel booted? Also, I really need to make sure I configured the new kernel correctly before trying to boot it |
| 19:45.57 | unjustice | non_dumb: no |
| 19:46.18 | unjustice | non_dumb: why, do you have any ideas? |
| 19:46.25 | non_dumb | sorry |
| 19:46.30 | non_dumb | unjustice you still there |
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| 19:47.04 | unjustice | non_dumb: yes |
| 19:47.44 | non_dumb | is this a fresh install? |
| 19:47.53 | AlteKiet | what is a good package to install to have access to my files from a webbrowser on another machine? |
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| 19:48.05 | unjustice | non_dumb: no |
| 19:48.12 | non_dumb | etch or lenny? |
| 19:48.26 | Oleg_ | I am stupid, of course. Dunno why I even rebooted the server without being completely sure I hadn't rendered it unbootable |
| 19:48.52 | Oleg_ | so, as I said, I am lucky it booted the old kernel |
| 19:49.12 | non_dumb | unjustice: are you currently running etch or lenny? |
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| 19:49.24 | unjustice | non_dumb: squeeze |
| 19:49.28 | unjustice | I think |
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| 19:49.35 | \amethyst | Oleg_: this is why you keep around the old kernel and make sure it has an entry in lilo |
| 19:49.37 | unjustice | non_dumb: I originally had lenny |
| 19:49.45 | non_dumb | and then? |
| 19:50.09 | \amethyst | Oleg_: (along with the initrd if there is one) |
| 19:50.21 | non_dumb | and you didn't paste your sources.list |
| 19:50.23 | unjustice | non_dumb: updated to squeeze packages a while back, mostly for multimedia |
| 19:50.55 | non_dumb | ...and are you doing this as root? |
| 19:51.06 | unjustice | yes |
| 19:51.19 | non_dumb | do you have synaptic open while you are running apt-get? |
| 19:51.24 | unjustice | no |
| 19:51.28 | unjustice | tried both and aptitude |
| 19:51.31 | unjustice | cannot update |
| 19:51.41 | non_dumb | you never posted your sources.list |
| 19:51.49 | hxB5 | Hi there - QQ (newbie) - is it possible to have two GRUB(s)? like one written on the MBR, and the other someplace else? What i have is: when booting up - right after the BIOS initialization, a GRUB welcome message is displayed, then after 5 seconds (timeout?) I briefly see an error (error - no such disk), and then finally i come to another screen with the GRUB 2 menu (where you can choose which version of the kernel to start with) |
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| 19:52.21 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: maybe I should install grub and use it instead of lilo |
| 19:52.35 | unjustice | non_dumb: yes I did |
| 19:52.38 | unjustice | I will do it again though |
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| 19:53.56 | non_dumb | do you have pastebinit installed? that would make it much easier |
| 19:54.18 | hxB5 | (i actually reinstalled Debian on an old machine, which formerly had another linux installation on) |
| 19:54.33 | unjustice | non_dumb: http://paste.debian.net/39698/ |
| 19:55.10 | non_dumb | where is the 'deb' at the begining of that first line? |
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| 19:55.54 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: are you using grub on your system? |
| 19:56.05 | unjustice | non_dumb: I did not select it, but it's there I am installing pastebinit |
| 19:56.10 | \amethyst | Oleg_: using lilo on my home PC, grub at work |
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| 19:56.33 | \amethyst | Oleg_: mainly because I installed my home PC a long time ago, before grub became the standard, and I've not bothered switching |
| 19:57.01 | non_dumb | unjustice: have your tried replacing testing with squeeze. maybe it's a problem with how thier server is configured. |
| 19:57.09 | non_dumb | in the sources.list ^^ |
| 19:57.28 | unjustice | non_dumb: I think I changed it over from that, but let me try right now |
| 19:57.55 | \amethyst | Oleg_: but I don't typically compile my own kernels |
| 19:58.07 | \amethyst | Oleg_: and when I did, I used make-kpkg to do it |
| 19:58.16 | mamalujo | hi! about configuring subversion client, I'm getting 'could not connect to server' bzr and darcs have no complaints. Do I need to punch some hole in my firewall? googling mentiones such things if using proxy. I have a local privoxy but that should be optional? |
| 19:58.23 | non_dumb | unjustice: and when did this problem start? |
| 19:58.34 | \amethyst | mamalujo: http servers? |
| 19:58.38 | \amethyst | mamalujo: are you in testing? |
| 19:58.58 | unjustice | non_dumb: probably 6 weeks ago, but I lost internet and have been unable to fix it until today and now connection is back on |
| 19:59.04 | mamalujo | \amethyst yes its testing, https in the last case |
| 19:59.13 | hxB5 | anyone there - RE: GRUB above? |
| 19:59.35 | unjustice | non_dumb: I think that fixed it... |
| 20:00.06 | \amethyst | mamalujo: could be this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531338 |
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| 20:00.37 | \amethyst | mamalujo: the workaround until the new version of neon27 is in testing is add the line http-library=serf to ~/.subversion/servers. |
| 20:00.56 | unjustice | non_dumb: thanks, I vaguely recall doing that in the past |
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| 20:01.58 | non_dumb | unjustice: i think lenny went from testing to stable and squeeze became the new testing in that time. that's probably where the problem started |
| 20:02.00 | mamalujo | \amethyst oh, known bug, thx! Um, this is better than installing unstable version? |
| 20:02.02 | non_dumb | meybe |
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| 20:02.28 | unjustice | non_dumb: that would make sense |
| 20:02.37 | non_dumb | cool |
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| 20:05.28 | AlteKiet | hi all. What package can I use to have access to local files from a remote machine over http? |
| 20:05.32 | \amethyst | mamalujo: there's a krb5 transition involved, so trying to do that is likely to require pulling a lot of packages from unstable |
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| 20:05.54 | CdK1 | how force to apt-get? |
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| 20:06.00 | nkuttler | AlteKiet: a webserver? |
| 20:06.10 | nkuttler | CdK1: hm? |
| 20:06.29 | rudi_s | AlteKiet: ssh if you run it on port 443 |
| 20:06.34 | mamalujo | aah, I see. well, this is complaining about missing serf. tried installing libserf packages, still complains, any ideas what is missing? |
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| 20:06.48 | rudi_s | Which would be httpS. |
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| 20:07.16 | AlteKiet | rudi_s: nkuttler: I want to access my files over HTTP, for example from a restricted windoze machine in an internet cafe |
| 20:07.31 | Palmik | i have problem - i have 2x Seagate Cheetah 15K.6 146.8GB HDD, SAS + ASUS MB P6T WS PRO, X58 and install boot flash dont detect disk {no disk} - where is problem pls? |
| 20:07.53 | rudi_s | AlteKiet: A webserver would be the easiest way, but if the files contain sensitive information you should at least use httpS! |
| 20:07.59 | Palmik | some problem with netinstall 5.0.1 amd64 |
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| 20:08.13 | mamalujo | \amethyst, exact complaint is svn: Invalid config: unknown HTTP library 'serf to ~/.subversion/servers' |
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| 20:08.31 | erwin85 | hi, does anyone know if you can change the port used by terminal server client? I've set up the remote computer to use port 22 and can connect when using rdesktop from the terminal and specifying that port, but I'd like to be able to use terminal server client. Which doesn't work right now. |
| 20:09.00 | AlteKiet | rudi_s: what package / php script / .. can I use on apache so I can have features like: password protection, text edit on server, add/move/rename folder |
| 20:09.14 | nkuttler | rudi_s: ssh != ssl |
| 20:09.44 | \amethyst | mamalujo: err |
| 20:10.06 | \amethyst | mamalujo: the line is http-library=serf the file is ~/.subversion/servers |
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| 20:10.33 | mamalujo | \amethyst, uf, eek, copied without thinking, stupid :) |
| 20:10.43 | rudi_s | nkuttler: I know. I thought he is restricted to ports 80/443, running ssh on 443 would allow him to use it. |
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| 20:10.45 | nkuttler | AlteKiet: sounds like you want some kind of cms/groupware |
| 20:10.52 | nkuttler | rudi_s: i see |
| 20:10.55 | voxio | AlteKiet: AlteKiet http://php.resourceindex.com/Complete_Scripts/File_Management/ |
| 20:11.15 | AlteKiet | voxio: thanks! I'll have a look |
| 20:11.18 | voxio | AlteKiet: http://ajaxian.com/archives/ajax-directory-management |
| 20:11.21 | voxio | etc etc theres loads |
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| 20:11.28 | voxio | probably not packaged though |
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| 20:12.04 | erwin85 | Never mind. For the record: simply append the server with ":portnumber". |
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| 20:14.06 | mamalujo | looks like its working, thx for the help \amethyst! |
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| 20:14.52 | Fozzy | Is there a way to prevent 'apt-get autoremove' from removing certain packages? Currently I see that bzip2 is in the autoremove list (along with a few dozen others), but I'd like to keep bzip2 |
| 20:15.52 | adb | reinstall bzip2 after autoremove |
| 20:16.24 | \amethyst | Fozzy: hm, aptitude has unmarkauto but I don't know how you do that with apt-get |
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| 20:16.35 | unjustice | non_dumb: actually that did not work, I thought it was installing but it crashed |
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| 20:16.36 | cybor0 | hello |
| 20:16.38 | Fozzy | \amethyst: OK, thanks :) |
| 20:16.39 | non_dumb | what were you installing? |
| 20:16.54 | unjustice | non_dumb: 371 packages |
| 20:16.56 | unjustice | updating |
| 20:16.58 | non_dumb | lol |
| 20:17.05 | non_dumb | what do you mean crashed? |
| 20:17.18 | non_dumb | was there an error message? |
| 20:17.31 | cybor0 | i have problem with mouse inside gnome |
| 20:17.31 | cybor0 | <cybor0> inside another application like firefox etc is everthing ok |
| 20:17.31 | cybor0 | <cybor0> but inside gnome my mouse is to fast or something like this |
| 20:17.31 | cybor0 | <cybor0> whene i click on menu system menu show and hide |
| 20:17.31 | cybor0 | <cybor0> like double click |
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| 20:18.08 | enouf | that boys keymap is f***ed |
| 20:18.15 | unjustice | non_dumb: yeah, but I could not copy from synaptic it said something about dpkg /var/lib debian binaries I think which is probably not helpful |
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| 20:18.35 | cybor0 | anybody help with mouse inside gnome |
| 20:18.37 | nkuttler | !tell cybor0 about paste |
| 20:19.01 | gasull | Hi. Iceweasel is using the US keyboard layout unlike all the other apps. How can I fix it? Thanks. |
| 20:19.02 | non_dumb | if you are just doing an update then could you use apt or aptitude? so that you get more information about exactly what is happeing. |
| 20:19.32 | non_dumb | be sure to 'aptitude update' first |
| 20:19.40 | non_dumb | and use 'aptitude safe-upgrade' |
| 20:20.02 | cybor0 | it is someting strane becouse mouse is double click |
| 20:20.04 | enouf | unjustice: use ps aux to make sure none of apt/aptitude/synaptic/dpkg are running still and restart the process, but use aptitude, or apt-get from the cli |
| 20:20.12 | unjustice | enouf: okay |
| 20:20.20 | unjustice | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.15.2_amd64.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive |
| 20:20.43 | non_dumb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:23.35 | enouf | gasull: if Edit | Preferences | <something in here> doesn't have a keymap setting ; and about:config (in the location/address bar) doesn't have anything useful ; as root/sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser (tell us which is default, and if IW isn't you might want to select it) |
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| 20:24.48 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 20:25.05 | enouf | i See in Edit | Preferences | Content | Languages .. perhaps gasull - however, that applies to displaying pages, not keymappings - so perhaps maybe in gnome? kde? their control centers'? |
| 20:25.17 | enouf | TrueDD: yo yo mama :-p |
| 20:25.32 | TrueDD | hi enouf |
| 20:25.47 | cybor0 | another problem is that when i click on icon in desktop i can't click any other icon after first click\ |
| 20:26.04 | enouf | gasull: how did you install iceweasel? and what does 'which iceweasel' say (when run as a user in a xterm) |
| 20:27.09 | enouf | gasull: after changes, restart the browser - make suer no firefox-bin processes are still running in between, i like pstree/pstree.x11 myself |
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| 20:28.37 | smacnay | Wow. I think that gcstar is behaving very poorly on my machine right now. Can't save entries. Can't open an existing movie db. Maybe there is something missing that supports it. |
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| 20:30.17 | andyhalsall | Hi, I can't seem to get Debian to boot from the correct disk after installation.... it is the only OS onthe machine. Anyone able to help? |
| 20:30.44 | cobra-the-joker | hey there guys .... i am having intel 32-Bit processor ....can i have a Virtual Machine ?? |
| 20:30.55 | andyhalsall | I should add that I don't have much in the way of tools available to me at the moment either (1xusb stick, a pda for this and the laptop I'm installing to which is unbootable) |
| 20:31.14 | Gun_Smoke | cobra-the-joker: sure why not |
| 20:31.16 | cybor0 | cobra-the-joker why not you can |
| 20:31.16 | Zambezi | cobra-the-joker: Depending on how good it is, but not a problem for my P4. |
| 20:31.48 | cobra-the-joker | its a Dual Core Processor actually with 2 MHZ |
| 20:32.01 | Gun_Smoke | I think ram is the bigger issue |
| 20:32.09 | cobra-the-joker | 2.5 GB ram |
| 20:32.14 | andyhalsall | should be fine then |
| 20:32.15 | obcecado | 2mhz ? welcome to 1989 |
| 20:32.18 | Zambezi | cobra-the-joker: No problem. |
| 20:32.35 | andyhalsall | Assuming that a dual core 2Mhz proc is actually a 2Ghz proc |
| 20:32.45 | Gun_Smoke | cobra-the-joker: try virtualbox |
| 20:32.49 | cobra-the-joker | i guess :D |
| 20:32.51 | \amethyst | obcecado: 2 MHz was slow in 1989... more like 1980 |
| 20:32.52 | andyhalsall | qemu... |
| 20:33.14 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: does your processor have virtualization support? |
| 20:33.24 | cobra-the-joker | i dont know ...how can i know that ? |
| 20:33.25 | buu | Dear debian, where is dpkg output that includes things like 'ii' and 'rc' in package lists, documented? |
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| 20:34.03 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: grep ^flags /proc/cpuinfo |
| 20:34.13 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: look for vmx or cmx among the flags |
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| 20:35.21 | cobra-the-joker | http://pastebin.com/d7a9c57f |
| 20:35.35 | andyhalsall | No one has any experience with odd intall HD configurations then... |
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| 20:36.12 | muddd | odd as in how |
| 20:36.21 | cobra-the-joker | \amethyst .... so can i ?? |
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| 20:37.27 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: yes, but some things might be a little slower than if you had hardware virtualization |
| 20:37.39 | andyhalsall | Well not thta odd, my primary disk is sdb during install but becomes sda on boot, I can runthrough the installtion fine, modify grub OK but then I have issues with cryptsetup and lvm both looking for a different device |
| 20:37.51 | cobra-the-joker | \amethyst .... ok ..thanx |
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| 20:39.03 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: it means you can't use KVM very well, but qemu virtualbox and xen will all work (and others as well) |
| 20:39.26 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: it also means you can't do a 64-bit guest in virtualbox (don't know about the others) |
| 20:39.56 | cobra-the-joker | \amethyst ...ok |
| 20:40.38 | DetroitLibertyPe | does anyone know an open source application that will allow me to synchronize my browsers bookmarks in multiple locations, I've used Yahoo! Toolbar (with firefox/ice weasel) and I've used Opera Web Browser which has a full sync option, but going to Debian I'm hoping to use only FOSS at home (unfortunately due to my work environment I still have to use Windoze at work, but its nice to have identical bookmarks on both machines) |
| 20:40.38 | cobra-the-joker | i have installed VirtualBox right now and trying ..... |
| 20:42.42 | andyhalsall | I'll try messing with the bios and see if I can get the hd to come up as sda during the installation... |
| 20:44.18 | andyhalsall | Although its wierd because I had no issues installing debian from ausb stick when I first got the laptop... (why I decided to mess abot is beyond me) |
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| 20:44.58 | cobra-the-joker | \amethyst ..... Its seems to go pretty well ....although its ofcourse much slower than my actually System |
| 20:46.11 | andyhalsall | Nope, that hasn't helped... |
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| 20:47.09 | andyhalsall | so how do I go about swapping things from sdb to sda, I assume that apart from grug there is an lvm config somewhere, a Luks config and possibly some other bits... I will presumably have to regenerate the initrd image from within the target during installation too.... |
| 20:47.33 | andyhalsall | s/grug/grub |
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| 20:48.45 | craigevil | DetroitLibertyPe: try the firefox extension Xmarks |
| 20:49.10 | andyhalsall | Or is there a way of reassigning device names whilst the installer is running (andchanging the boot partition...)? |
| 20:49.39 | andyhalsall | heh, using only a sub stick withthe installer on and the machine I am installing to... |
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| 21:04.21 | designs703 | Hi everyone, I'm having trouble getting RSA public key-based authentication working. I've created the keypair, uploaded the public key to the server, and added its contents to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys in my home directory. RSAAuthentication and PubKeyAuthentication are enabled in my sshd_config |
| 21:04.41 | designs703 | oh, and I restarted sshd after adding those directives |
| 21:05.01 | andyhalsall | I really cannot find a solution for this, even if I modify grub, decrypt the lvm I still can't mount the root file system... |
| 21:05.34 | designs703 | Basically, although Ubuntu detects the key locally (it asked for the password, which I provided), the server still asks for a password, which of course it shouldnot |
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| 21:06.13 | \amethyst | designs703: are the permissions on ~, ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys strict enough? |
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| 21:06.42 | designs703 | what octal should they be? |
| 21:07.09 | designs703 | they are very permissive, 775 right now |
| 21:08.25 | \amethyst | designs703: they must not be writable by anyone else |
| 21:08.34 | Fozzy | designs703: .ssh should be restrictive, like 700 |
| 21:08.38 | \amethyst | designs703: so chmod go-w ~ ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 21:08.45 | \amethyst | designs703: on the server |
| 21:09.09 | \amethyst | and as Fozzy suggested ~/.ssh can even be 0700 |
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| 21:09.33 | designs703 | \amethyst, ta da! thanks |
| 21:09.44 | Fozzy | designs703: also, I've been using ssh-copy-id to install keys to target machines, it's kind of nice |
| 21:09.47 | designs703 | \amethyst, chmod -R :) |
| 21:10.04 | designs703 | Fozzy, thanks, I'll check that out |
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| 21:10.26 | smacnay | I am getting errors in gcstar that point to lines in the gcstar binary with Gtk2-> in them. Can a clean install have missing gtk2 stuff? |
| 21:10.28 | \amethyst | don't need to do -R, only those three matter |
| 21:10.54 | Fozzy | I've bumped into the .ssh permission problem too many times, I'm glad I remember the fix (most of the time) |
| 21:11.11 | ajavid | when installing debian debootstrap --arch i386 sid /var/sid-386-chroot <deb url here> how to specify a cdrom instead of the uri |
| 21:11.31 | ajavid | I mean not using sid, installing a stable 32bit chroot |
| 21:11.33 | ajavid | from a cdrom |
| 21:11.43 | andyhalsall | I assume no one has any suggestions as to how I could either get the usb stick to come up as sdb or correct the issues at the end of the installation? |
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| 21:12.33 | ajavid | debootstrap --arch i386 lenny /lenny http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ <- O |
| 21:12.53 | ajavid | I'd like to specity a cdrom is what I mean, or mounted loopback iso |
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| 21:14.45 | ajavid | like how is the cdrom sources.list entry specified? is it like that, cus its not working, I'm trying like file:///wherever and its not going |
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| 21:18.00 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: okay, please tell me what to do, so I would be able to boot this server with the new kernel :) |
| 21:18.30 | Oleg_ | By the way, is it possible to boot remote servers using bootable iso images? |
| 21:18.49 | \amethyst | Oleg_: I really don't know, because I have no experience booting from RAID |
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| 21:19.13 | honschu | Do I need new alsa-userland for 2.6.30 kernel? Because I have some stumbles and glitches in the soundoutput so every thre to ten minutes. |
| 21:19.14 | ajavid | i give up! /me downloads |
| 21:21.38 | wubrgamer | bye everyone! I'm going camping. Be back sunday. |
| 21:21.38 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ...how can i know which network interface is working ??? |
| 21:22.01 | dkr | ifconfig |
| 21:22.02 | \amethyst | cobra-the-joker: ifconfig will tell you the ones that are up |
| 21:22.48 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
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| 21:25.06 | jpinx | Is there a way to cat the first n lines of a file? |
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| 21:26.32 | grml-user | hello |
| 21:26.37 | grml-user | i'm trying to move a directory |
| 21:26.42 | dkr | jpinx: head |
| 21:26.47 | grml-user | mv seems to work for files but not directories |
| 21:26.54 | grml-user | is there another command specifally for dirs? |
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| 21:27.14 | dkr | grml-user: no. what makes you think it doesn't seem to work? |
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| 21:28.05 | dkr | error message? |
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| 21:30.03 | adb | ajavid: mount as loopback iso in say /mnt/cdrom and > debootstrap --arch i386 lenny lenny file:///mnt/cdrom |
| 21:30.13 | htmlol | I just tried to cat a file, and it froze my entire computer for a bit (including stopping the music), then it gradually outputted some stuff and in the middle of the file said "Bus error." and stopped |
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| 21:30.55 | adb | ajavid: it works here |
| 21:31.02 | adb | I: Base system installed successfully. |
| 21:31.20 | Oleg_ | when I run lilo, it gives me this output: http://pastebin.com/m7c620b0f |
| 21:31.23 | htmlol | there's nothing wrong with the file, because I can edit it in anything fine |
| 21:31.25 | ajavid | thats what I did |
| 21:31.32 | grml-user | dkr: ? |
| 21:31.35 | grml-user | just a sec |
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| 21:32.45 | grml-user | dkr: must have been dreaming that. nm |
| 21:32.46 | dkr | grml-user: you called me here to tell me to wait? ;) |
| 21:32.55 | dkr | grml-user: ah |
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| 21:34.16 | adb | ajavid: and it worked from local .iso ? |
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| 21:35.14 | ajavid | I missed someting I dunno, it goes now |
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| 21:35.42 | ajavid | adb, thank you |
| 21:35.42 | adb | sweet |
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| 21:36.12 | jpinx | thanks dkr :) |
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| 21:39.40 | smacnay | Is gcstar the best movie catalog app out there? |
| 21:40.14 | jmoncayo | hey guys, something free like vmware i could install? |
| 21:40.28 | hochron | how come when I dd=/media/cdrom it tells me its a directory? (I am using Lenny) |
| 21:40.38 | pickcoder | jmoncayo: did you search? |
| 21:41.12 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: maybe lilo is not the program that actually boots my system? |
| 21:41.24 | \amethyst | Oleg_: do you get a boot prompt? |
| 21:41.32 | jmoncayo | yes but i want to know what you guys use as a replacement |
| 21:41.55 | adb | jmoncayo: virtualbox |
| 21:42.02 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: what do you mean? I simply login into the server with ssh |
| 21:42.23 | \amethyst | Oleg_: oh, you don't have physical access |
| 21:42.27 | adb | hochron: /media/cdrom/ ? |
| 21:42.47 | Oleg_ | <\amethyst: well, this server is in France and I am in the United States |
| 21:43.02 | \amethyst | Oleg_: that's entirely possible then |
| 21:43.05 | hochron | adb: tried it :( |
| 21:43.07 | jmoncayo | ok, anyone else want to suggest something else? |
| 21:43.48 | hochron | adb: dd: reading `/media/cdrom/': Is a directory |
| 21:44.01 | pickcoder | virtualbox is much lighter than vmware but the device interfacing is a bit less refined |
| 21:44.30 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: is there a way I can find out what boots this system? |
| 21:44.46 | adb | hochron: dd --help ? dd if=/media/cdrom of=blablah |
| 21:44.54 | jmoncayo | will it work fine, if i want to flash a cellphone or something, from the virtual os |
| 21:45.13 | adb | hochron: /media/cdrom/* ? |
| 21:45.30 | adb | oh , nm |
| 21:46.17 | adb | forget last |
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| 21:47.48 | hochron | adb: dd: opening `/media/cdrom/*': No such file or directory |
| 21:48.02 | hochron | adb it is mounted :( |
| 21:50.00 | hochron | is there any other way to make an iso file from a dvd? |
| 21:51.15 | adama_ | hochron: it's easy, you're doing it wrong, http://txt.binnyva.com/2007/07/command-to-make-a-cddvd-iso-image-in-linux-with-dd/ |
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| 21:52.31 | CdK1 | ji * |
| 21:52.38 | CdK1 | any solution with this problem: |
| 21:52.45 | CdK1 | http://osdir.com/ml/debian-user-debian/2009-06/msg01296.html |
| 21:52.53 | CdK1 | ia32-libs wine Debian amd64 |
| 21:53.16 | hochron | thanks adama_ I need to unmout it first :) |
| 21:53.51 | adama_ | yes and dd the block device, not some directory |
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| 21:54.44 | hochron | adama_: how do I figure out the block device? |
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| 21:55.57 | adama_ | mmm there are a few ways, it probably appears in /etc/fstab for one |
| 21:56.07 | adama_ | it's usually /dev/cdrom |
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| 21:56.34 | Brune | whats a good command line firewall? |
| 21:56.46 | adama_ | iptables! |
| 21:56.56 | adama_ | best there is |
| 21:56.59 | Brune | ok |
| 21:57.17 | hochron | I got it! thanks adama_ |
| 21:58.05 | jmoncayo | anyone knows if virtualbox works fine in amd64? |
| 21:58.20 | jelly-home | jmoncayo: why shouldn't it! |
| 21:58.38 | adb | dpkg: tell Brune about iptables |
| 21:58.52 | Brune | adb: dont do that please, i hate bots pming me |
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| 21:59.06 | CdK1 | jmoncayo, yes |
| 21:59.11 | jmoncayo | jelly-home: i get an error when trying to run my new virtual box, it says FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found. |
| 21:59.11 | Brune | adb: i already got my answer but thanks |
| 21:59.15 | CdK1 | I have vbox in Debian amd64 |
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| 21:59.23 | CdK1 | not problem work fine |
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| 21:59.39 | hochron | adama_ what will it do with the unreadable portions? |
| 21:59.43 | CdK1 | one problem with wine and ia32-libs :/ |
| 21:59.54 | jelly-home | jmoncayo: sounds like you upgraded either vbox or the kernel and forgot to recompile the modules |
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| 22:00.25 | jmoncayo | jelly-home: i upgraded kernel long time ago in order to make my ndivia to work, and wireless |
| 22:00.31 | jelly-home | jmoncayo: using virtualbox-ose or the binary (PUEL) version? |
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| 22:00.42 | gwzz | hey how do you get build dir in /lib/modules/<kernel> |
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| 22:00.59 | jmoncayo | jelly-home: i ran aptitude install virtualbox |
| 22:01.06 | jelly-home | gwzz: merely install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 22:01.34 | gwzz | jelly-home: tyvm |
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| 22:02.18 | jmoncayo | i guess it is ose |
| 22:02.20 | grml-user | could i keep /boot on a usb drive and have instead of on the hdd? and is there another security step i could take to prevent the system from being booted without the usb stick? |
| 22:02.37 | jtgiri | Hi guys, I have general question about 64 bit OS, my server has Intel Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9400 @2.66GHZ, will I get better performance if I install 64bit debain as oppose to 32 bit ? |
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| 22:04.03 | jmoncayo | jelly-home: fixed it =] |
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| 22:05.01 | enouf | jtgiri: depends on the usage/needs and how much RAM |
| 22:05.08 | hochron | adama_ I copied the dvd with gnome baker copy dvd option and it worked eventually |
| 22:05.50 | enouf | jtgiri: generally, mathematical intensive apps and multi-threaded apps written for 64bit will certainly perform better with the amd64 ARCH |
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| 22:07.26 | enouf | jtgiri: having atleast 4GB of RAM will also be a plus .. |
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| 22:08.34 | jtgiri | k, I am running a mail server , I guess I can try 64bit for fun |
| 22:10.04 | gasull | Hi all. I got this error trying aptitude reinstall ia32-libs: http://dpaste.com/57371/ |
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| 22:10.23 | enouf | jtgiri: using debootstrap - you could also install a 32bit version alongside and use/test - /msg dpkg debootstrap (also, chroot is another option) |
| 22:11.05 | enouf | gasull: did you ever reply to any of my replies? i don't recall seeing them .. |
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| 22:11.44 | kingpin2 | how do I move files from one directory to another in ssh? |
| 22:11.53 | gasull | enouf: what replies? |
| 22:12.25 | enouf | gasull: failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8': No space left on device <-- tells it all |
| 22:12.32 | gasull | kingpin2: with cp like you would do in the terminal |
| 22:12.40 | enouf | gasull: i'm not about to paste them all |
| 22:13.27 | kingpin2 | \um |
| 22:13.30 | kingpin2 | I need the command |
| 22:14.05 | amphi | kingpin2: what do you mean? |
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| 22:14.17 | gasull | kingpin2: cp |
| 22:14.23 | kingpin2 | I need the SSH command to move files in Directory A to directory B |
| 22:14.25 | kingpin2 | Whats CP? |
| 22:14.29 | enouf | http://dpaste.com/57373/plain/ gasull |
| 22:14.32 | gasull | kingpin2: man cp |
| 22:14.41 | kingpin2 | what is CP? |
| 22:14.51 | mesa_booger | oh my giddy aunt |
| 22:14.57 | rvsjoen | im trying to get pam to authenticate using ldap, anyone able to see why this is not working, this is the pam configuration, nsswitch is configured to use pam, and 'id' on a ldap-user works, but not login http://dpaste.com/57374/ |
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| 22:15.15 | gasull | kingpin2: you need to login thru ssh first, and then you will be in a terminal, but remotely |
| 22:15.27 | gasull | kingpin2: man ssh |
| 22:15.27 | kingpin2 | Im on my terminal |
| 22:15.35 | kingpin2 | I use putty |
| 22:15.39 | kingpin2 | now i just need the command |
| 22:15.45 | enouf | rvsjoen: have you seen /etc/pam.d/* |
| 22:15.59 | kingpin2 | thats what I asked for and you keep saying CP what is this some kind of joke? |
| 22:16.04 | gasull | enouf: thanks. I can't believe i filled my HD. I'll remove some stuff... |
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| 22:16.11 | rvsjoen | enouf: yes, the settings in the paste are from common-auth,session,password and account in /etc/pam.d |
| 22:16.25 | enouf | rvsjoen: try installing dlocate; update-dlcoatedb as root ; dlocate libnss |
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| 22:16.42 | enouf | gasull: i use localepurge pkg as first line of defense |
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| 22:16.53 | gasull | kingpin2: isn't putty for windows? |
| 22:16.54 | rvsjoen | libnss-ldap is installed |
| 22:17.14 | enouf | gasull: then .. i start removing older logs in /var and then even apt-get autoclean and such |
| 22:17.18 | rvsjoen | I was trying to see if there is a way to get debug output from pam, havent found a way yet |
| 22:17.38 | enouf | rvsjoen: i see |
| 22:17.46 | nsadmin | there is not an ssh command to move files. you ssh in, then you use mv |
| 22:17.46 | mesa_booger | gasull: you can use it for all sorts of sealing jobs |
| 22:18.10 | kingpin2 | how do I do that |
| 22:18.10 | enouf | rvsjoen: i'm PAM, and LDAP ignorant for the most part ... |
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| 22:18.25 | gasull | enouf: Thanks. I think the problem will go away if I remove stuff the HD a little bit. |
| 22:18.39 | enouf | kingpin2: you could use scp/vsftp, etc |
| 22:18.41 | nsadmin | are you now connected to the remote machine? |
| 22:18.44 | hochron | how can I tell what dvd my burner can burn? i.e. dvd-r dvd+r dvd+rw? |
| 22:18.48 | dhblewis | quick questions whats the two latter command to display folder contents something like lm |
| 22:18.49 | kingpin2 | no that doesn't work. |
| 22:18.49 | rvsjoen | me too ;) which is how I got myself into this in the first place, not the thing I play with every day you might say |
| 22:18.51 | Flexa | network connects but no wins ip what to do? |
| 22:18.53 | enouf | kingpin2: scp uses SSL IINM |
| 22:18.55 | kingpin2 | permissions won't allow. |
| 22:19.01 | kingpin2 | I use SFTP |
| 22:19.13 | enouf | hochron: cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info |
| 22:19.18 | rvsjoen | Flexa: huh ? |
| 22:19.27 | enouf | hochron: dmesg | grep ATAPI |
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| 22:19.33 | Flexa | wifi-wpa personal network |
| 22:19.34 | nsadmin | permissions? then you can't do it without having those permissions, and that's a different question |
| 22:19.44 | enouf | hochron: wodim -prcap dev=/dev/name |
| 22:19.45 | Flexa | connects but no wins ip what to do? |
| 22:20.13 | rvsjoen | tell the dhcp server to give out a wins ip or configure it statically ? why do you need wins anyway ? |
| 22:20.22 | enouf | hochron: actually, the 1st should tell all - but also "sdparm -a /dev/dvd" |
| 22:20.39 | Flexa | works on PCs with Windows :( |
| 22:20.41 | kingpin2 | it wont move the files ugh |
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| 22:20.47 | enouf | hochron: install any pkgs needed i mentioned , install dvd+rw-tools |
| 22:21.20 | enouf | kingpin2: stop using some GUI bloat to do it |
| 22:21.23 | Flexa | lenny on it connects but no wifi signal |
| 22:21.44 | Flexa | how? |
| 22:22.18 | Flexa | the wireless router is at hand |
| 22:22.20 | rvsjoen | Flexa: explain the problem, not just random phrases, first of all are you talking about WINS or are you talking about your computer not getting an ip address ? |
| 22:22.39 | Flexa | ok ok |
| 22:22.44 | enouf | Flexa: try not to use ENTER as punctuation |
| 22:23.00 | kingpin2 | enouf ur just completely rude |
| 22:23.02 | hochron | it does not say anything about dvd+r?? |
| 22:23.04 | Flexa | I have a note book with stable debian lenny |
| 22:23.19 | enouf | kingpin2: no, "fuck you idiot" would be rude |
| 22:23.27 | mesa_booger | breathes a sigh of relief |
| 22:23.32 | Flexa | wireless network card installed |
| 22:23.35 | enouf | keith4: actually, /msg dpkg enter |
| 22:23.42 | enouf | er.. sorry keith4 |
| 22:24.06 | enouf | !comfort mesa_booger |
| 22:24.06 | dpkg | There, there, mesa_booger. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:24.07 | hochron | ok enof :) |
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| 22:24.12 | Flexa | when I connect to my wireless network in my house |
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| 22:25.10 | Flexa | it connects but the signal is very low and do not receive the ip dhcp |
| 22:25.11 | amphi | I will be jubilant? |
| 22:25.18 | jmoncayo | hey guys, where should i add a line to load a module at boot time? |
| 22:25.26 | enouf | and joyous and effervescent |
| 22:25.45 | Flexa | the router next to the notebook |
| 22:25.46 | amphi | enouf: not to mention, glutinous with self-approbation ;) |
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| 22:25.50 | enouf | jmoncayo: usually /etc/modules |
| 22:26.00 | dkr | jmoncayo: /etc/modules |
| 22:26.10 | dkr | is slow |
| 22:26.12 | Flexa | works on other computers |
| 22:26.16 | rvsjoen | Flexa: usually not getting an ip address while beeing associated with the wireless access point is the result of a wrong encryption key |
| 22:26.41 | jmoncayo | i knew it was something like that, i was confused with rc.local :D |
| 22:26.46 | enouf | amphi: please don't mention self-aggrandizement :-p |
| 22:27.20 | amphi | I wouldn't dream of it |
| 22:27.27 | enouf | amphi: it's good to see you ... |
| 22:27.44 | Flexa | I wpassuplicant running on lenny |
| 22:27.52 | enouf | but this is better in some -offtopic channel somewhere |
| 22:28.15 | amphi | enouf: likewise - my tubes are feeble and intermittent these days |
| 22:28.25 | Flexa | with fixed ip also not navigate on the Internet |
| 22:28.50 | rvsjoen | Flexa: which would also be the case if the key was wrong |
| 22:29.45 | enouf | jmoncayo: rc.local runs usually as /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local -> /etc/init.d/rc.local which is the last thing to run once in runlevel 2, which is multiuser GUI mode .. /msg dpkg runlevels ; /msg dpkg rcconf for more info |
| 22:29.49 | Flexa | the network key can be wrong? |
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| 22:30.20 | jmoncayo | thanks a lot enouf |
| 22:30.30 | Flexa | not understand why another pc works :( |
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| 22:30.49 | enouf | amphi: shame - if i can help, let me know, .. but i'll probably suggest something a bit inapropos as a way to unclog the pipes ;-) |
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| 22:31.09 | Flexa | I think I will change the key for all then |
| 22:31.14 | hochron | what is dvda+-rw? |
| 22:31.37 | patrikf | hochron: one of DVD-R DVD-RW DVD+R DVD+RW ? |
| 22:32.01 | Flexa | ok thanks I will try again to give feedback |
| 22:32.02 | enouf | jmoncayo: i love people like you whom are 'willing to read to learn' .. i have no problem pointing people at docs ; learn how to query dpkgbot in private and /msg dpkg grounding |
| 22:32.32 | enouf | hochron: where do you see that? |
| 22:32.46 | enouf | hochron: what's with the 'a' ? |
| 22:32.58 | hochron | patrikf: it say after format took 1.5 minutes that it is not dvda? |
| 22:33.04 | jmoncayo | dpkg is awesome |
| 22:33.04 | dpkg | wish i knew, jmoncayo |
| 22:33.05 | jmoncayo | :) |
| 22:33.08 | enouf | patrikf: newer dvd+rw-tools info or sdparm? |
| 22:33.24 | enouf | !pal jmoncayo |
| 22:33.24 | dpkg | points at jmoncayo and laughs uproariously |
| 22:33.27 | enouf | ;-) |
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| 22:34.02 | rvsjoen | heh, simple typo in a username, ldap working, yay |
| 22:34.04 | jmoncayo | hahahaha |
| 22:34.07 | jmoncayo | :D |
| 22:34.24 | enouf | rvsjoen: so ... PEBCAK? :-p |
| 22:34.28 | hochron | enof: using format option in gnome baker |
| 22:34.37 | rvsjoen | indeed, classic case |
| 22:34.41 | enouf | hochron: stop with any GUI tools for now |
| 22:35.06 | enouf | hochron: dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd |
| 22:35.12 | enouf | !pastebin |
| 22:35.12 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 22:35.20 | enouf | and all those other commands i mentioned |
| 22:35.21 | hochron | enof: ok what do I use? I tried man dvd+rw-tools and it wont be found |
| 22:35.34 | hochron | enof: one sec |
| 22:35.53 | enouf | hochron: read scrollback .. i'm typing like a typist atm .. it won't last for long |
| 22:36.20 | TrueDD[away] | Good night all |
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| 22:37.03 | enouf | the Whiskey is kicking in :-p |
| 22:37.04 | hochron | enof: dvd+rw-mediainfo gave me :-( no media mounted, exiting... |
| 22:37.20 | enouf | hochron: you have no DVD media in the drive? |
| 22:37.30 | jpinx | pours another whiskey for enouf |
| 22:37.36 | enouf | or .. /dev/dvd doesn't point to your device |
| 22:38.13 | enouf | hochron: read scrolback more - run those commands, put them ALL into a pastebin -- take your time |
| 22:38.13 | hochron | enof: hmm do i use the source disc or the one im trying to write? |
| 22:38.37 | enouf | hochron: you obviously then have multiple optical drives |
| 22:39.29 | enouf | hochron: pastebin full output of cat /var/log/dmesg |
| 22:39.37 | enouf | as well |
| 22:39.44 | hochron | enof: the cd is /dev/hdd the dvd is /dev/hdc |
| 22:40.24 | Polarina | dvd is /dev/dvd |
| 22:40.31 | enouf | hochron: what is your goal - and please try to give us the info i asked for |
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| 22:40.42 | enouf | Polarina: not always |
| 22:40.49 | enouf | Polarina: that's a symlink |
| 22:41.17 | enouf | Polarina: udevinfo -q all -n /dev/dvd read BLOCK output line .. or isit B |
| 22:41.19 | hochron | enof to copy lenny on my dvd+rw disc |
| 22:41.19 | enouf | B: |
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| 22:41.53 | HardDisk_WP | how do I remove all lines from a file which start with # or ; ? |
| 22:42.02 | enouf | hochron: you have Lenny CD1 on your CD already burned and you checked the md5sum or shasums? |
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| 22:42.33 | enouf | sed HardDisk_WP |
| 22:42.37 | mesa_booger | enouf: actually, udev tries to intelligently guess these things, first time around. and you end up with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules which specifies what is where and what it's called |
| 22:42.40 | enouf | ewr |
| 22:42.54 | enouf | mesa_booger: i know ;-) |
| 22:43.04 | HardDisk_WP | enouf, uh, I have no idea how they work, this is why I asked^^ |
| 22:43.05 | enouf | mesa_booger: hence; dmesg output |
| 22:43.34 | mesa_booger | enouf: just trying to shed a little light into the dark continent :) |
| 22:43.43 | enouf | man sed -- see #sed ... or use .. erm .. WTF!? .. brainfart |
| 22:44.11 | enouf | mesa_booger: it's FINALLY sunny here ... albeit in the twilight! :-p |
| 22:44.44 | mesa_booger | i've been in the twilight for some years now |
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| 22:45.21 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: you could do silliness like cat filename | grep -v ';' < infile > outfile |
| 22:46.04 | enouf | mesa_booger: me too - and .. many things are quite surprising .. i try to focus on the positive surprises ;0 |
| 22:46.35 | enouf | erm '^;' i suppose -- HardDisk_WP ask #bash |
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| 22:47.16 | enouf | HardDisk_WP: the '^' should only look for anchoring to beginning of line IINM |
| 22:47.22 | HardDisk_WP | thx, works |
| 22:48.08 | enouf | you do NOT want to remove ALL ';' if they are NOT in the start of \n i think .. |
| 22:48.13 | hochron | enof: http://pastebin.com/m736784e1 |
| 22:48.25 | enouf | hochron: learn tab-completion .. please |
| 22:48.33 | enouf | !fundamentals |
| 22:48.33 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ |
| 22:49.48 | enouf | hochron: 1st thing i notice is "hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache" <-- what is that? from 1992? |
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| 22:50.32 | hochron | enof: will that effect hdc? |
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| 22:50.37 | Polarina | 48x drives didn't exist in 1992. |
| 22:51.24 | hochron | I am going to leave in about 20-25 minutes, just saying |
| 22:53.04 | enouf | hochron: 2nd, seems your hdc -- [ 3.644175] hdc: Hewlett-Packard DVD Writer 300, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive is locked in ROM only mode .. this doesn't mean +R media cannot be written ..but hang on a sec |
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| 22:53.45 | hochron | I burnt the dvd on a dvd+r though... take your time |
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| 22:55.15 | enouf | Polarina: 128Kb cache is insane |
| 22:55.41 | enouf | hochron: what DVD, you said you had Lenny on CD media? |
| 22:56.16 | hochron | Lenny is on a dvd+r that I used to install this system |
| 22:56.32 | hochron | enof: sorry |
| 22:56.44 | enouf | hochron: the "Hewlett-Packard DVD Writer 300" (accorfing to the kernel) can read/write CDs, and only READ DVDs |
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| 22:57.25 | enouf | "device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM." <<-- is OLD .. MMC 3 should be present |
| 22:57.28 | hochron | enof: I burnt it from windows, it says its a dvd writer on the case |
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| 22:59.28 | enouf | hochron: this is why i gave up on OPtical crap -- HDDs solely for me at this point |
| 22:59.41 | hochron | enof: lol |
| 23:00.04 | enouf | hochron: i've even redone my firmware in my optical DVDRW drives |
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| 23:01.33 | enouf | hochron: dvd'+'rw is different ... if you want to follow through on that - start with http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/tools/growisofs.c |
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| 23:02.23 | enouf | hochron: i can use either in my burner, but i admit .. some FUNK exists .. always |
| 23:03.27 | hochron | enof: will I be able to burn another dvd+r disc? |
| 23:04.24 | enouf | hochron: .. anyway. you want to copy the DVD1 -OR- the CD1 ? |
| 23:04.44 | enouf | you cannot place a DVD into a CDROm/CDRW and expect it to be readable |
| 23:05.27 | enouf | hochron: you're ery confusing to me |
| 23:05.41 | rdz | hi all. how to access the admin pages of the cups printing system? i would like to allow access from localhost |
| 23:05.48 | hochron | I know that, I am exclusively using the dvd writer, i even dd'd an iso file:) |
| 23:06.22 | enouf | hochron: you COULD cp/dd over the DVD info onto HDD and reburn to DVD .. but at this point, no idea what you have, nor which you're using |
| 23:06.57 | enouf | hochron: then pastebin output of isoinfo -d -i filenmae.iso |
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| 23:07.15 | enouf | hochron: and .. show me your dd command |
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| 23:08.04 | enouf | rdz: dpkg-reconfigure cups ? |
| 23:08.24 | daishadar | how can i do a sector-by-sector (full disk) live backup on a mounted and running disk? |
| 23:08.29 | enouf | rdz: or .. add the username to the 'adm' group? |
| 23:08.41 | enouf | daishadar: no |
| 23:09.06 | rdz | enouf, many thanks |
| 23:09.10 | enouf | you do NOT ever want to try to on that on a live (mounted rw) FS |
| 23:09.27 | enouf | unless, there's some ZFS or LVM funk involved perhaps |
| 23:09.40 | daishadar | enouf: i'm asking if there are any software solutions for this |
| 23:09.47 | enouf | daishadar: for what? |
| 23:10.05 | enouf | live? , ,mounted rw? |
| 23:10.07 | hochron | enof: http://pastebin.com/m6750f397 |
| 23:10.11 | daishadar | enouf: for a live disk backup. for example, it it trivial on windows with various third party softwares. |
| 23:10.22 | enouf | daishadar: no it isn;t |
| 23:10.38 | daishadar | enouf: yes it is, try acronis true image, shadowprotect, norton ghost, etc... |
| 23:10.42 | enouf | daishadar: trust me -- or tell me which tool does that |
| 23:10.51 | daishadar | i'm asking, what's available for linux |
| 23:10.51 | enouf | daishadar: no it doesn't |
| 23:11.48 | hochron | enof: are you gonna be on tomorrow? I gotta go in 3 minutes |
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| 23:12.03 | enouf | daishadar: here's all i got for you; besides 'g4u' and 'partimage' and $$$ 'ghost4linux' |
| 23:12.03 | daishadar | enouf: you're saying that, for example, acronis true image does NOT do live disk imaging. why would you say that? |
| 23:12.20 | enouf | daishadar: yes |
| 23:12.49 | jaybee | I'm recently installed debian on a machine that uses raid 5.. I've just booted it up, and it freezes early on in boot.... |
| 23:13.19 | jaybee | After mdadm says /dev/md/0 created with 3 drives out of 4, 1 spare... it just frezes and does nothing |
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| 23:13.28 | daishadar | enouf: wtf? |
| 23:13.29 | jaybee | Is this normal? What could be causing this? |
| 23:13.35 | jmoncayo | hey guys, can i mount a pendrive with virtualbox, i can only find dvd, floppy, network |
| 23:13.49 | daishadar | enouf: what do you think true image does then? |
| 23:13.54 | enouf | hochron: i'm always here - availability is constrained by babydolls' requests ;-) |
| 23:14.14 | hochron | ok thanks for the help enof! |
| 23:14.15 | adb | jmoncayo: no |
| 23:14.35 | enouf | daishadar: i don't care .. but i know the windows registry and it's scattering of it's kernel and VMM throughout many DLLs |
| 23:14.38 | jmoncayo | soo bad :( |
| 23:14.59 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.02 | daishadar | enouf: great. very precise explanation. |
| 23:15.12 | enouf | jaybee: read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* |
| 23:15.26 | jmoncayo | adb: sunbox? |
| 23:15.29 | enouf | jaybee: use zless if you don't know how to gunxzip a dir/ |
| 23:15.31 | adb | yes |
| 23:15.36 | enouf | er gunzip |
| 23:16.00 | enouf | daishadar: you think i work for Acronis? |
| 23:16.06 | adb | jmoncayo: sun microsystems |
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| 23:16.39 | daishadar | enouf: no, i think you're kind of being a dick when i'm asking a relatively simple question, by claiming that several pieces of software don't exist |
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| 23:17.00 | enouf | daishadar: i know how older GHOST version work , and part<something> bought them out and since version 9 something it sucked ass |
| 23:17.02 | jaybee | ah I found the problem |
| 23:17.17 | jaybee | it's linux randomly giving devices diferent names each boot |
| 23:17.26 | enouf | daishadar: i have a big dick yes, sometimes i like to flail it about .. sorry |
| 23:17.55 | enouf | daishadar: one second please |
| 23:18.22 | \amethyst | daishadar: if you use LVM you can do e.g. http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_snapshots |
| 23:18.55 | enouf | daishadar: if not for your particular situation,. hopefully this shouild help a bit ; http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html |
| 23:19.05 | \amethyst | daishadar: that is make a snapshot, then back up the snapshot |
| 23:19.22 | jmoncayo | adb: can i copy my virtualbox virtual machine to sunbox or do i need to reinstall it |
| 23:19.50 | enouf | daishadar: you can remount the partition 'ro' and easily back it up ... or even rsync / tar / etc it |
| 23:19.58 | daishadar | \amethyst: cool, thanks |
| 23:20.13 | \amethyst | daishadar: but that will only work for partitions that are in LVM |
| 23:20.21 | jaybee | Does anyone have a good advice for using udev ids with fstab for sda drives, but not one indended for hot plugable usb junk |
| 23:20.31 | enouf | daishadar: Micropoop's version of LVM is not nearly even close to Linux's |
| 23:20.32 | jaybee | good tutorial* site... thingie, something |
| 23:20.36 | jmoncayo | adb: can you give me a link please, sun virtual machine says it is virtualbox.org and thats the one i installed |
| 23:20.41 | \amethyst | daishadar: the XFS filesystem has xfs_freeze to freeze writing to the disk so you can safely back up |
| 23:20.54 | enouf | jaybee: usbids? |
| 23:21.07 | enouf | jaybee: ls -l /dev/disk/by-* |
| 23:21.30 | Gun_Smoke | jaybee: from a.b.e.t? |
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| 23:21.42 | \amethyst | daishadar: for ext3, ext4, or reiser on an ordinary non-lvm partition you will have to remount read-only as enouf suggests |
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| 23:22.00 | adb | jmoncayo: try to "boot" your image made by virtualbox-ose in sunbox , use virtualbox.org |
| 23:22.28 | enouf | \amethyst: OR/AND use the --one-file-system option when using tar |
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| 23:22.38 | \amethyst | daishadar: otherwise you will end up with different blocks being copied at different points in time, which is likely to end up in corruption |
| 23:22.50 | adb | jmoncayo: but good luck to install it |
| 23:22.55 | enouf | likely? heh' |
| 23:22.57 | enouf | ;-) |
| 23:23.01 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: The person who sold me this server told me the gresucurity library is blocking the installation of a new kernel. But I don't understand how that library could block the changes that I physically made in lilo.conf. I don't understand how the server still sees the old kernel when it boots up. |
| 23:23.28 | Oleg_ | grsecurity, I mean |
| 23:23.47 | \amethyst | Oleg_: the server might not be booting from the hard drive |
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| 23:24.05 | enouf | daishadar: go ahead, try to figure out how to remount your / as ro |
| 23:24.37 | \amethyst | snapshots are definitely the way to go |
| 23:24.38 | LCID_Fire | Hi. Could someone explain what the main difference between binary and source packages are? More specific - why may a source package not contain scripts? |
| 23:24.43 | jaybee | ah I think I need to be searching for fstab with uuid not fstab with udev thanks |
| 23:24.48 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: from what it may be booting then? |
| 23:24.58 | enouf | LCID_Fire: not a good question |
| 23:24.59 | \amethyst | Oleg_: network boot from a file server maybe? |
| 23:25.18 | LCID_Fire | enouf: have a better one? |
| 23:25.19 | \amethyst | Oleg_: ask the people who run the server |
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| 23:25.30 | Oleg_ | \amethyst: so, why the things like lilo.conf are on the hard drive? |
| 23:25.33 | enouf | source is compiled and many times patched, then .debs built (binary) |
| 23:25.45 | enouf | LCID_Fire: see? |
| 23:25.54 | \amethyst | Oleg_: I don't know... I have no idea how they set up the server |
| 23:25.57 | Oleg_ | ok |
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| 23:26.10 | LCID_Fire | enouf: yeah - but how would you generate a script out of sources!? They are already plain text... |
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| 23:26.42 | enouf | LCID_Fire: source pkgs have many many scripts avail to build/compile pkgs (.deb) from them |
| 23:26.44 | Gryfelhase | Hi... I've downloaded a netinstall cd.... with the graphical Install it didnt found the network-card of the asrock 780FullHD (Realtech 8111/8168b).... |
| 23:26.56 | \amethyst | LCID_Fire: you still have to say where to install them, which is what the binary packages are for |
| 23:26.57 | Gryfelhase | but with textmode it found it.... |
| 23:27.02 | enouf | LCID_Fire: the .dsc files are important :-P |
| 23:27.14 | LCID_Fire | is getting more and more confused |
| 23:27.19 | Gryfelhase | how can I check, if this bug is reported ? |
| 23:27.19 | enouf | stop |
| 23:27.22 | jaybee | Can I use uuid with swap? |
| 23:27.41 | enouf | LCID_Fire: you have other distro experience? |
| 23:27.46 | enouf | jaybee: yes |
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| 23:28.00 | jaybee | Well my system doesn't appear to be revealing the uuid |
| 23:28.12 | LCID_Fire | enouf: not really - just a few years on debian/ubuntu |
| 23:28.29 | enouf | jaybee: though mine, atm , doesn't seem to have one .. wait |
| 23:28.37 | goldenwolf | hey, i seem to be having issues when i insert auto eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces - lots of services fail and kde fails to load |
| 23:29.05 | enouf | hahaha |
| 23:29.07 | enouf | file -s /dev/hdc2 |
| 23:29.08 | enouf | /dev/hdc2: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages), size 243399 pages, no label, UUID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 |
| 23:29.19 | enouf | nice UUID eh? |
| 23:29.37 | jaybee | That's nothing, I have in dev: sda1, sda2 and sda5,,,,, but the drive only has two partitions |
| 23:29.49 | enouf | but whenever i run "mkswap" ia always get a UUID |
| 23:30.02 | enouf | and i do it more often than rebooting |
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| 23:30.22 | pipeline | enouf: heh, have you tested whether it's lying ? |
| 23:30.25 | pipeline | enouf: can you mount it by its uuid ? |
| 23:30.27 | jaybee | Right now I'm more worried about the phantom partition |
| 23:30.29 | \amethyst | jaybee: sda2 an extended partition and sda5 the first logical partition? |
| 23:30.29 | enouf | pipeline: who cares |
| 23:30.34 | jaybee | ah |
| 23:30.40 | enouf | pipeline: blkid sucks ass |
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| 23:30.52 | jaybee | It's logical |
| 23:30.57 | enouf | pipeline: swap NEVER gets mouhnted |
| 23:31.26 | enouf | swap 'partition' anyways |
| 23:31.45 | jaybee | it gets oned |
| 23:32.31 | jaybee | So can anyone explain my conundrumm? How can I convert all my fstab to uuid when I can't get a uuid for swap? |
| 23:32.56 | jaybee | do I need to swapoff, mkswap, swap on? |
| 23:33.00 | \amethyst | jaybee: yeah |
| 23:33.14 | \amethyst | jaybee: you can also give it a label when you swapon |
| 23:33.18 | enouf | pipeline: i regularly dd zero out the swap partition , ONCE i can 'swapoff -a' successsfully after a 'sync' .. but nm |
| 23:33.38 | \amethyst | jaybee: I find labels more readable than UUIDs in fstab, though each has its advantages and disadvantages |
| 23:34.05 | enouf | then i mkswap /dev/blah ; swapon -a (as /etc/fstab notes) |
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| 23:35.16 | enouf | pipeline: it's extremeely hard to do with FF/IW runnning angd having 25+ tabs open .. and only 512RAM ;-) |
| 23:35.28 | enouf | it's IW btw |
| 23:35.40 | jaybee | I think I've done it now, now to reboot and watch everything die yay |
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| 23:38.53 | jaybee | Wow it works. |
| 23:39.14 | enouf | jaybee: we are magical |
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| 23:39.34 | adb | !win we |
| 23:39.35 | dpkg | Congratulations, we! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 23:40.17 | gasull | failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8': No space left on device |
| 23:40.22 | gasull | Sorry |
| 23:41.07 | gasull | Hi all. I meant that I got this error with aptitude and don't know how to fix it. |
| 23:41.24 | adb | free some space |
| 23:41.32 | gasull | adb: i did |
| 23:41.40 | adb | reboot |
| 23:41.50 | enouf | pipeline: i said "ONCE i can 'swapoff -a' successsfully " because many times swap usage exceeds avail RAM even though i have vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf ,,, it works well ,.. mostly |
| 23:41.50 | \amethyst | gasull: what does df . say? |
| 23:42.09 | jaybee | gasull: delete some stuff? |
| 23:42.27 | jaybee | df -h is handy |
| 23:43.00 | gasull | df output: http://dpaste.com/57402/ |
| 23:43.06 | enouf | gasull: pastebin yuour full output as you did earlier please |
| 23:43.22 | enouf | gasull: others may notice other errors prior |
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| 23:43.59 | goldenwolf | whats the name for python plugin |
| 23:44.05 | gasull | enouf: full error http://dpaste.com/57403/ |
| 23:44.42 | \amethyst | gasull: you're installing ia32-libs? |
| 23:44.44 | \amethyst | gasull: Uncompressed size: 69.1M |
| 23:44.46 | enouf | goldenwolf: apt-get update ; apt-cache search python plugin |
| 23:44.46 | draeath | can anyone help me with a udev rule: http://pastebin.com/m7bd76dde |
| 23:44.48 | draeath | this isn't working |
| 23:44.54 | \amethyst | gasull: you only have 46MB free |
| 23:45.04 | draeath | it ends up as root:root with a different mode in /proc/bus/usb |
| 23:45.26 | \amethyst | gasull: because /emul is on your root filesystem |
| 23:45.33 | draeath | using the vendor and product IDs from lsusb |
| 23:45.48 | gasull | \amethyst: I didn't know it uses /boot |
| 23:45.50 | enouf | !udev rulea |
| 23:45.54 | enouf | !udev rules |
| 23:45.54 | dpkg | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html, or or read it online at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 23:45.55 | \amethyst | gasull: not /boot, / |
| 23:46.25 | \amethyst | gasull: /dev/mapper/sanfran-root 329233 265935 46300 86% / |
| 23:46.29 | \amethyst | gasull: only 46 MB free |
| 23:46.34 | draeath | im following the instructions given in libgphoto's README.debian, which is for cameras (but is the same issue... plugdev needs permissions to a usb device |
| 23:46.49 | enouf | .. |
| 23:47.00 | \amethyst | gasull: you can maybe try mkdir /usr/emul then doing a bind mount |
| 23:47.28 | draeath | http://pastebin.com/m122583c1 |
| 23:47.35 | \amethyst | gasull: I mean, moving /emul to /usr/emul then doing mount --bind /usr/emul /emul |
| 23:47.48 | enouf | needs to go get something straight between me and babydoll .. happy computing |
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| 23:48.23 | gasull | \amethyst: I still don't get it. In what partition is aptitude using? |
| 23:48.49 | \amethyst | gasull: /, /usr, and /var |
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| 23:49.00 | adb | draeath: cat /etc/group | grep plugdev |
| 23:49.07 | \amethyst | gasull: in this case, most of the package contents go into /emul which is on your / partition |
| 23:49.16 | gasull | \amethyst: And when it uncompress, where does aptitude try to uncompress to? |
| 23:49.27 | gasull | mmm |
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| 23:49.48 | \amethyst | gasull: in-place, so /emul/blah/ |
| 23:49.54 | \amethyst | gasull: . is / there |
| 23:50.09 | draeath | abd thats not the problem. the /proc/bus/usb entries are assigned as root:root not root:plugdev, as per the rule |
| 23:50.18 | draeath | but i'm in the plugdev group, since your asking |
| 23:50.29 | mrtnt | I have a folder with files "filename.part001.rar", "filename.part002.rar" until "filename.part124.rar". I have unpacked those files in Windows using WinRAR, but how can I accomplish this under Debian? |
| 23:50.31 | gasull | how will your solution fix it forever? |
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| 23:50.52 | gasull | mrtnt: install 7z-rar |
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| 23:51.20 | draeath | aaah i see |
| 23:51.25 | draeath | what im playing with is in /dev |
| 23:51.27 | draeath | i need to edit /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh |
| 23:51.29 | \amethyst | gasull: you would have to also add an fstab entry for the bind mount to make it work forever |
| 23:51.41 | simNIX | mrtnt, unrar |
| 23:51.51 | adb | draeath: same here about root:root /proc/.. |
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| 23:52.13 | draeath | abd check out line 75 in that .sh i tossed above |
| 23:52.19 | draeath | i think i need to set the group and mode THERE |
| 23:52.26 | \amethyst | gasull: it would move /emul to the /usr partition then make it also appear at /emul (with a bind mount) |
| 23:52.28 | mrtnt | gasull: ok, and then unrar the "filename.part001.rar" and then all other "filename.part002.rar", "filename.part003.rar" etc will also be unrared? |
| 23:52.48 | \amethyst | gasull: though since you use LVM, you might be better off just growing your root filesystem |
| 23:52.57 | gasull | \amethyst: I installed Debian just a few days ago with the default options choosing encrypted disk. There's probably a way I can delete some stuff. I can't believe I run out of HD so soon. |
| 23:53.15 | simNIX | mrtnt, yup |
| 23:53.20 | \amethyst | gasull: your root filesystm is only a few hundred megs |
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| 23:53.38 | \amethyst | gasull: normally, since you have a separate /usr /var and /home that wouldn't be a problem |
| 23:53.50 | \amethyst | gasull: but ia32-libs unfortunately doesn't install into /usr, and it's huge |
| 23:54.04 | gasull | \amethyst: OK. I see |
| 23:54.46 | gasull | \amethyst: Would you mind to repeat your propossed solution? Growing the root partition? |
| 23:55.06 | \amethyst | gasull: I don't know enough about LVM to tell you how to do that, but surely someone else here does |
| 23:55.11 | adb | draeath: done a log out/log in after installed libgphoto2 ? |
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| 23:55.35 | gasull | \amethyst: OK. Thanks. |
| 23:55.49 | draeath | abd this isn't libgphoto2 |
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| 23:56.14 | \amethyst | gasull has a full root filesystem, on encrypted LVM. How would he go about shifting space over from, say, /home to / ? |
| 23:56.19 | draeath | nevermind im on the right track now |
| 23:56.25 | \amethyst | answers to gasull, not me :) |
| 23:57.38 | gasull | enouf: Would you know the answer? |
| 23:59.13 | gasull | joining #lvm for help there |
