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| 00:13.27 | gasull | \amethyst: the directory /emul/ia32-libs was there from a broken installation attempt. I fixed it doint aptitude remove ia32-libs and then installing again. it required to uninstall and install wine and skype too. It seems to be fixed now. Thanks again |
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| 00:22.15 | goldenwolf | which reps has python.h? |
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| 00:25.22 | pipeline | enouf: oh god - firefox in 512M ? |
| 00:25.30 | pipeline | enouf: that's just cruel, dude :( |
| 00:25.57 | pipeline | enouf: tried opera ? configurable RAM versus disk caching. I mean, really configurable. |
| 00:26.15 | n3kl | pipeline: enouf won't use bloat |
| 00:26.17 | nkuttler | pipeline: opera is kind of off-topic |
| 00:26.50 | pipeline | nkuttler: oh totally. Who would ever talk about ISV products for debian in a channel about debian. Shocking! |
| 00:27.34 | nkuttler | pipeline: before pushing non-free stuff learn about open source alternatives... |
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| 00:31.02 | pipeline | nkuttler: before talking shit, get bent. |
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| 00:31.23 | nkuttler | pipeline: is that kind of an insult? i don't speak english that well |
| 00:31.48 | pipeline | nkuttler: I aped your sentence structure for comedic effect. It was crude, but servicable. |
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| 00:32.19 | pipeline | nkuttler: to wit: I'll feel free to "push" non-free "stuff" at any time, with or without your permission. |
| 00:33.01 | pipeline | nkuttler: furthermore, opera is not "off-topic." The debian project distributes a fair bit of non-free software and encourages IHVs and ISVs to support it. |
| 00:33.11 | nkuttler | pipeline: you are wrong if you think it's about getting my permission |
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| 00:33.40 | pipeline | nkuttler: There's that weak grasp of idiom again. I was subtly implying that you're a jackass. |
| 00:33.59 | nkuttler | *plonk* |
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| 01:03.44 | kenjy | guys Im trying to create a debian mirror, Im following the ftpsync README and it say: "Setup the .ssh/authorized_keys for the mirror user and place the public key of |
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| 01:12.39 | Schuenemann | how can I see the kernels I have installed and remove old ones? |
| 01:13.10 | adb | uname -r |
| 01:13.11 | gasull | Schuenemann: ls /boot if I'm not wrong |
| 01:13.32 | Schuenemann | aren't they handled by apt? |
| 01:13.50 | gasull | adb: that would show the current one only, right? |
| 01:13.55 | Schuenemann | after all, they're installed by apt |
| 01:13.59 | adb | yes |
| 01:14.14 | Schuenemann | my current is 2.6.30 |
| 01:14.30 | adb | ubuntu ? |
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| 01:14.36 | Schuenemann | debian |
| 01:14.45 | spikerman | why can't i find the win32codes of mplayer from debian source? |
| 01:14.51 | Schuenemann | but I think I have many old versions |
| 01:15.03 | zinx | spikerman: because Debian has no license to redistribute those codecs |
| 01:15.06 | Schuenemann | spikerman, you have debian-multimedia repo? |
| 01:15.08 | adb | !dmm |
| 01:15.09 | dpkg | methinks dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 01:15.37 | gasull | spikerman: they aren't open source |
| 01:15.43 | Schuenemann | adb, so, you know how can I remove them? |
| 01:15.47 | Schuenemann | or anyone, actually |
| 01:16.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.29 | spikerman | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.31 | adb | put ouput here |
| 01:16.43 | adb | Schuenemann: ^ |
| 01:17.17 | gasull | spikerman: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:17.22 | Schuenemann | hold on |
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| 01:17.37 | Schuenemann | adb, http://www.pastebin.ca/1466999 |
| 01:18.34 | Schuenemann | they should be listed under dpkg -l something, right? |
| 01:18.40 | adb | apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 01:18.54 | adb | all in one line . |
| 01:19.14 | Schuenemann | linux-headers-2.6.18-6-amd64 |
| 01:19.33 | adb | if you want also |
| 01:19.43 | Schuenemann | is it needed? |
| 01:19.50 | adb | no more |
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| 01:20.21 | gasull | I get this error in my .xsession-errors when I boot up: http://dpaste.com/57422/ But I can actually find libgssapi_krb5 in /emul/ia32-linux/ . How can I fix it? Thanks. |
| 01:20.52 | adb | Schuenemann: let it go too |
| 01:20.55 | \amethyst | gasull: it needs the 64-bit version probably |
| 01:21.30 | adb | Schuenemann: testing ? |
| 01:21.37 | \amethyst | gasull: which is in libkrb53 |
| 01:21.37 | Schuenemann | removing |
| 01:21.47 | kenjy | guys Im trying to create a debian mirror, Im following the ftpsync README and it say: "Setup the .ssh/authorized_keys for the mirror user and place the public key of |
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| 01:21.53 | Schuenemann | it removed from menu.lst too, good :-) |
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| 01:22.42 | adb | Schuenemann: will rest only 2.6.26-2-amd64 and 2.6.30 |
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| 01:23.24 | Schuenemann | adb, I will keep 2.6.26-2 since 2.6.30 was compiled by me |
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| 01:23.30 | Schuenemann | but there is still 2.6.26-1 |
| 01:23.37 | gasull | \amethyst: Thanks again. I just installed it. I'm going to reboot. HAND. |
| 01:23.55 | \amethyst | gasull: probably logging out and back in will be plenty |
| 01:23.56 | \amethyst | doh |
| 01:24.00 | adb | Schuenemann: remove too 2.6.26-1 |
| 01:24.25 | Schuenemann | linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64. how did you find the name of ther other package? |
| 01:24.49 | adb | from your paste... |
| 01:25.34 | Schuenemann | oh, I didn't see they were 2 different versions |
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| 01:27.38 | Schuenemann | adb, what does that "rc" mean in dpkg -l ? |
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| 01:27.59 | Schuenemann | first column |
| 01:28.13 | adb | not sure |
| 01:28.31 | adb | release candidate , |
| 01:28.33 | adb | ? |
| 01:28.53 | Schuenemann | I think it means it was recently removed |
| 01:29.09 | adb | anyway is not installed |
| 01:29.12 | \amethyst | removed but not purged |
| 01:29.26 | \amethyst | so conffiles are still around |
| 01:29.26 | adb | oh, |
| 01:29.27 | Schuenemann | shouldn't i be rp, then? |
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| 01:29.41 | Schuenemann | I should've purged |
| 01:29.47 | \amethyst | 'c' stands for 'conffiles only' |
| 01:29.56 | Schuenemann | hmm |
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| 01:30.08 | Schuenemann | can I remove them now? remove --purge can't |
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| 01:30.23 | \amethyst | aptitude purge packagename or dpkg purge packagename |
| 01:30.31 | \amethyst | or with a recent enough apt-get, apt-get purge packagename |
| 01:30.59 | \amethyst | lenny version is recent enogh |
| 01:31.25 | Schuenemann | dpkg purge says I need an action option |
| 01:31.26 | dpkg | Schuenemann: wish i knew |
| 01:31.34 | Schuenemann | dpkg purge linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 |
| 01:31.35 | dpkg | Schuenemann: no idea |
| 01:32.05 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.52 | Schuenemann | it worked (apt-get didn't either) |
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| 01:33.14 | Schuenemann | thanks |
| 01:33.32 | adb | np |
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| 01:34.42 | Schuenemann | when 2.6.30 is available in the repositories, should I remove the one I compiled myself? |
| 01:35.12 | adb | to save space maybe |
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| 01:36.03 | Schuenemann | my version can be a little bugged |
| 01:36.07 | Schuenemann | I removed some stuff |
| 01:36.43 | ajavid | good morning |
| 01:36.50 | maden | hi |
| 01:36.50 | adb | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.30-1-amd64_2.6.30-1_amd64.deb |
| 01:37.03 | adb | Schuenemann: ^ |
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| 01:37.44 | Schuenemann | ugh... it was available |
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| 01:39.24 | kenjy | guys Im trying to create a debian mirror, Im following the ftpsync README and it say: "Setup the .ssh/authorized_keys for the mirror user and place the public key of |
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| 01:39.45 | jaybee | Schuenemann it's best to avoid using a custom kernel unless you are using a distro where software is compiled locally |
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| 01:40.07 | tommy87it | hi |
| 01:40.08 | Schuenemann | jaybee, ok, I just testing |
| 01:40.14 | jaybee | Did you actually need .30 when you compiled it or just did it because it was a higher version? |
| 01:40.31 | Schuenemann | I didn't need it, I just wanted to try it out |
| 01:40.40 | Schuenemann | btw, what is "a distro where software is compiled locally" ? |
| 01:41.18 | jaybee | Schuenemann... debian uses precompiled binaries, ie all the stuff is compiled already, some distros have a package manager that gets the source and compiles it to make the binaries.... |
| 01:41.34 | jaybee | failing that, you have to use wget/cvs/svn or something |
| 01:41.41 | Schuenemann | hmm |
| 01:42.23 | jaybee | Such systems can work better with custom kernels because you can compile stuff specifically for the kernel |
| 01:42.25 | adb | jaybee: as gentoo ? |
| 01:42.46 | jaybee | or lfs *shrugs* |
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| 01:43.07 | adb | linux from scratch .. |
| 01:43.08 | jaybee | or maybe slackware, im not sure on that one |
| 01:43.19 | Schuenemann | jaybee, any system can work better with a custom kernel, no? |
| 01:43.27 | jaybee | Schuenemann no |
| 01:43.29 | Schuenemann | there are a lot of generic stuff in precompiled kernels |
| 01:43.42 | Schuenemann | like support for 256 processors |
| 01:43.54 | jaybee | distros like debian, the kernel it provides is often best as it works best wit hthe rest of the software |
| 01:44.06 | jaybee | those are niche circumstances |
| 01:44.14 | Schuenemann | but why do I need kernel entries like toshiba laptop if I don't have one? |
| 01:44.23 | jaybee | oh oops I got that the wrong way around |
| 01:44.24 | zinx | Schuenemann: most of the generic stuff doesn't make the kernel work any worse |
| 01:44.36 | Schuenemann | hmm |
| 01:44.42 | Schuenemann | not even in theory? |
| 01:44.46 | jaybee | It makes a tiny different, you probably wont notice it in most cases. |
| 01:44.48 | zinx | Schuenemann: not even in theory. |
| 01:44.59 | tommy87it | can i ask a question? sorry for my english if it's bad. i have a virtual server with debian etch and i would upgrade my PHP with the latest release (5.2.10). current release in my server is 5.2.0 that i installed with apt-get. Then, apt-get retrieve only 5.2.0 release and not the latest. Can i install PHP 5.2.10 making the sources mantaining my current configuration? or exists a repository for APT where i can find the |
| 01:45.13 | zinx | there are a few options that do make a difference in theory, but i don't know off-hand how many of those Debian's kernels use - it's probably very few :/ |
| 01:45.19 | jaybee | having to recompile it when you suddenly need support for something new too is a pain |
| 01:46.23 | jaybee | you probably wont notice the difference between a custom kernel and a generic one in runtime... but you will when you keep having to compile the custom one again |
| 01:46.27 | cesar_CR | guys I have a problem with my chroot config... I am able to do a sftp but no ssh, I've followed this howto http://tusforyou.com/chrooted-sshsftp-tutorial-debian-lenny the thing is that when doing ssh after authentication the console is blank and when I try to do any command the connection is closed |
| 01:47.57 | kenjy | how can I create a debian mirror or automatic repository? this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html don't help because it don't say how to fill the repo with the packages and it don't say how to update the packages |
| 01:49.32 | ajavid | checking if xorg-macros used to generate configure is at least 1.2... configure: error: configure built with too old of a version of xorg-macros.m4 - requires version 1.1.0 or newer |
| 01:49.38 | ajavid | :( |
| 01:49.53 | ajavid | Build command 'cd x11proto-core-7.0.15 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. |
| 01:50.07 | ajavid | c'mon goddamit... |
| 01:51.09 | FoxBlitzz | For some reason Apache is using /htdocs/ as its web root directory, even though my configuration files say /var/www/. What is going on here? |
| 01:51.47 | FoxBlitzz | Is there some other configuration file telling Apache to do different things? |
| 01:52.18 | Alam_Lenny | maybe? |
| 01:52.28 | FoxBlitzz | Aah, Alam_Lenny, stop stalking me |
| 01:52.46 | ajavid | is debian lenny stable too old to build xorg 7.4 on? |
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| 02:00.46 | Schuenemann | is it safe to remove firmware-ipw3945? That was installed when I had etch |
| 02:00.58 | adb | no |
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| 02:01.09 | Schuenemann | lenny uses iwlwifi driver |
| 02:01.21 | liable | yes |
| 02:01.28 | adb | oh |
| 02:01.32 | liable | you want firmware-iwlwifi |
| 02:01.44 | liable | or whatever it is now |
| 02:01.54 | Schuenemann | I have both installed |
| 02:02.02 | Schuenemann | ok, removing... |
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| 02:04.26 | ajavid | alright |
| 02:04.41 | ajavid | I build xort 7.4 on debian, had to update the .m4 macros |
| 02:04.46 | ajavid | but now I have no 3d still |
| 02:04.56 | ajavid | OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer |
| 02:05.17 | ajavid | I remember there was something about a linux-firmware package I think that moved the radeon firmware out of the driver into the firmware package |
| 02:05.21 | ajavid | I can't seem to locate it |
| 02:06.06 | adb | restart X ? |
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| 02:07.06 | ajavid | :) |
| 02:07.07 | ajavid | of course |
| 02:07.21 | ajavid | it wouldn't start so i had to backup video-all package not just the video-radeon package |
| 02:07.45 | ajavid | so now im into xorg 7.4, prev. I used to get indirect rendering, upon 7.4 at least it has dri enabled, but has software rasterization |
| 02:08.06 | ajavid | let me dig through the log, if its a firmware.bin issue it should say it |
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| 02:16.02 | adb | is now in libc6 2.9-16 |
| 02:16.43 | adb | i'm still in lenny ? |
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| 02:17.09 | ajavid | ok |
| 02:17.13 | ajavid | hi |
| 02:17.19 | \amethyst | ajavid: that's the sid version of libc6 |
| 02:17.24 | \amethyst | doh |
| 02:17.24 | ajavid | no |
| 02:17.26 | ajavid | I mean for me |
| 02:17.28 | ajavid | http://paste.debian.net/39729/ <- this is my xorg log file, Im looking through it if anyone else get a chance to look at it, please advise |
| 02:17.28 | \amethyst | adb: that's the sid version of libc6 |
| 02:17.34 | ajavid | I see something on line 770+ about that |
| 02:17.45 | ajavid | when i had build xorg7.4 from the source in sid a while ago, from git, I had to also get this pacakge called firware-linux which had some radeonXXX.bin file |
| 02:17.47 | adb | oh, just installed it |
| 02:17.52 | ajavid | a firmware that was required, I can't seem to find that package any loner, plus, nothing related to it in the log anyway so far |
| 02:18.03 | ajavid | could anyone kindly take a peek and help me to troubleshoot this? |
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| 02:19.19 | ajavid | at least glx gears runs 10 times faster than it did on xorg 7.1 on stable |
| 02:19.30 | ajavid | 7.4 on stable with software rasterizer is still faster |
| 02:19.43 | \amethyst | ajavid: what about Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" ? |
| 02:20.06 | ajavid | \amethyst, debian x strikeforce is helpingme with it |
| 02:20.09 | ajavid | they just mentioend this as well |
| 02:20.16 | ajavid | on oftc |
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| 02:21.51 | ajavid | sorry got dc |
| 02:21.56 | jelly-home | judd: versions firmware-linux |
| 02:21.57 | judd | jelly-home: firmware-linux -- lenny-backports/non-free: 0.16~bpo50+1 sid/non-free: 0.16 squeeze/non-free: 0.16 |
| 02:22.14 | adb | \amethyst: i picked libc6 from eglibc/ repos , is that libc6 eglibc'zed ? |
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| 02:22.59 | ajavid | \amethyst, could you paste me that option again |
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| 02:23.04 | ajavid | let me look into that, i lost buffer |
| 02:23.19 | \amethyst | adb: 2.9-11 and up are eglibc |
| 02:23.33 | \amethyst | ajavid: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" |
| 02:23.39 | \amethyst | ajavid: it's mentioned in man radeon |
| 02:23.55 | ajavid | ahh |
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| 02:23.58 | ajavid | i didn't even read it |
| 02:24.04 | ajavid | hell i didn't even know there was a man radeon |
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| 02:24.06 | ajavid | lol |
| 02:24.32 | jelly-home | there are manuals for every Xorg driver |
| 02:24.51 | \amethyst | generally in section 4 |
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| 02:26.04 | adb | \amethyst: good to know , are there other packages to heve a plain eglibc system |
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| 02:26.21 | adb | s/heve/have |
| 02:26.32 | \amethyst | I'm not sure I understand the question |
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| 02:27.17 | \amethyst | adb: you mean like glibc-doc and locales? |
| 02:27.39 | adb | well in my system now eglibc system , oh locales .. |
| 02:27.56 | \amethyst | http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/eglibc |
| 02:27.58 | adb | s/ in/is |
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| 02:28.08 | \amethyst | that's a list of all the packages from the eglibc source package |
| 02:28.33 | \amethyst | make sure you have 2.9-11 or up of all of those |
| 02:28.42 | \amethyst | err, all the ones you have installed that is |
| 02:28.43 | Schuenemann | there is a man intel too! |
| 02:28.48 | \amethyst | you don't have to have them all installed |
| 02:28.57 | adb | they are already compiled in repos |
| 02:29.05 | Schuenemann | maybe I can configure my card correctly with it |
| 02:29.41 | adb | \amethyst: thanks , i get it now |
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| 02:30.20 | ranix | hey folks, is it possible to set up Pidgin so that if someone says ".do stand on your head" I will respond with "/me stands on your head", and what's the most direct way to accomplish that? |
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| 02:30.56 | ranix | or the best place to find the answer to that question |
| 02:31.07 | Schuenemann | how about #pidgin ? |
| 02:31.15 | Schuenemann | or search for a bot plugin in google |
| 02:31.21 | ranix | hm |
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| 02:32.56 | bookmark | hi, does anyone know where sources get unpacked? |
| 02:33.28 | bookmark | i just downloaded: apt-get source mesa-utils |
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| 02:34.42 | mesa_booger | bookmark: /usr/src |
| 02:35.05 | ajavid | ok |
| 02:35.07 | ajavid | http://paste.debian.net/39735/ |
| 02:35.09 | ajavid | (II) RADEON(0): EXA Composite requires CP on R5xx/IGP |
| 02:35.14 | ajavid | what is cp? |
| 02:35.42 | gasull | Hi again. I have a scanner/printer HP PSC 1315. It works as printer, but not as a scanner. Xsane says "no devices available". |
| 02:36.27 | gasull | ajavid: it's the command for copying files. Try "man cp" to get more info |
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| 02:36.42 | ajavid | ahhh |
| 02:36.43 | ajavid | I got it |
| 02:36.45 | ajavid | what? |
| 02:36.47 | ajavid | no, not cp man |
| 02:36.48 | adb | no |
| 02:36.51 | ajavid | 09:30 < ajavid> (II) RADEON(0): EXA Composite requires CP on R5xx/IGP |
| 02:36.54 | ajavid | this CP |
| 02:36.58 | ajavid | simple fix I go it |
| 02:37.10 | ajavid | $>glxinfo|grep ren |
| 02:37.10 | ajavid | direct rendering: Yes |
| 02:37.13 | gasull | ajavid: In the terminal, like gnome-terminal, try "man cp" |
| 02:37.13 | ajavid | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 TCL |
| 02:37.25 | ajavid | gasull, still you misunderd me my good man |
| 02:37.26 | ajavid | :) |
| 02:37.30 | ajavid | misunderstand* |
| 02:37.31 | gasull | ajavid: ok. sorry |
| 02:37.46 | adb | ajavid: google |
| 02:37.50 | ajavid | adb, no need |
| 02:37.54 | ajavid | its 100% fully working |
| 02:38.03 | adb | great |
| 02:38.12 | ajavid | i had to add the DRI section to the xorg.conf |
| 02:38.13 | ajavid | mode 666 |
| 02:38.22 | ajavid | fixed the problem after \amethyst said about EXA option |
| 02:38.26 | ajavid | \amethyst, thank you very much |
| 02:39.08 | adb | Section "dri" |
| 02:39.08 | adb | Mode 0666 |
| 02:39.08 | adb | EndSection |
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| 02:39.30 | gasull | Can anybody help me troubleshoot the problem with my scanner, please? |
| 02:39.53 | ajavid | adb, that is correct |
| 02:40.08 | ajavid | now my setup is perfect |
| 02:40.26 | ajavid | debian stabl, kde 3.5, xorg 7.4, with free 3d, .29 kernel custom |
| 02:40.28 | mesa_booger | until the next broken update |
| 02:40.32 | Wizzup | Alternatively, I think you can use Group "video" and Mode 0660, but I'm not certain. |
| 02:40.40 | ajavid | mesa_booger, nah, it aint nothing I can't handle |
| 02:40.42 | ajavid | :) |
| 02:40.49 | Wizzup | (you should be in the video group then, of course) |
| 02:41.03 | ajavid | Wizzup, I'm in the video group i think |
| 02:41.12 | ajavid | The user `ajavid' is already a member of `video'. |
| 02:41.52 | Wizzup | Then adding Group "video" and Mode "0660" *should* work. It's doesn't matter much, really. |
| 02:42.07 | Wizzup | Ehm, the mode without the quotes |
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| 02:42.51 | Wizzup | is now afk |
| 02:43.03 | adb | ajavid: .30 is in repo .. (invite only) |
| 02:43.10 | ajavid | no need for repos man |
| 02:43.17 | ajavid | I'm good with .29 for now |
| 02:43.23 | ajavid | if it aint broke, don't fix it |
| 02:43.43 | ajavid | im gonna go get dinner, thanks for the help, vry much |
| 02:44.10 | ajavid | oh and python 2.6 packaged and readyily instaleld/usable on stable too |
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| 02:44.15 | ajavid | now i go get dinner |
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| 02:48.43 | ajavid | ahh man |
| 02:48.52 | bookmark | what does it mean !? |
| 02:48.54 | ajavid | I can finally have stable debian system AND still play open arena... wow |
| 02:49.09 | ajavid | what does it all mean! why am I here? who am I? aaargh. |
| 02:49.12 | ajavid | *afk* |
| 02:49.25 | bookmark | whoosp sorry hahah |
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| 02:51.42 | cantido | mmm is debian switching to icedtea for the default JVM? |
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| 02:54.07 | grml | is there a command line tool to write an iso to disk? |
| 02:54.15 | cantido | grml: cdrecord |
| 02:54.17 | \amethyst | grml: wodim |
| 02:54.27 | grml | ok. thanks |
| 02:54.29 | \amethyst | or cdrecord (wodim is debian's fork of cdrecord) |
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| 02:55.14 | cantido | oh, cdrecord as cdrecord doesn't exist any more.. |
| 02:55.17 | cantido | in debian |
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| 02:55.50 | nsadmin | oh really? so wodim doesn't call cdrecord, it basically -is- cdrecord? |
| 02:55.56 | \amethyst | yes |
| 02:56.15 | \amethyst | cdrecord in Debian is now a transition package containing a wrapper script that calls wodim |
| 02:56.34 | nsadmin | oh ok, so I must have wodim |
| 02:56.34 | \amethyst | oh, sorry, not even a wrapper script, just a symlink |
| 02:56.41 | ajavid | alright, i ordred food |
| 02:56.44 | ajavid | now I wonder |
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| 02:56.56 | ajavid | in the time it takes to get my food delivered... can I setup a 32bit sid chroot |
| 02:57.00 | ajavid | lets try... |
| 02:57.18 | nsadmin | will it be delivered in a half an hour? any more and dominoe's has to give me the pizza free... |
| 02:57.23 | cantido | any reason you still need a 32bit install? |
| 02:57.52 | ajavid | nsadmin, papa john's |
| 02:58.01 | ajavid | they say 30-35 min |
| 02:58.02 | \amethyst | nsadmin: Uncle Enzo will show up personally and give you a free trip to Italy |
| 02:58.13 | ajavid | nsadmin, sid 32bit is alreayd downloaded to ~/sid32 |
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| 02:58.27 | ajavid | next step it says is to add the sid32 paths to ld.so.conf |
| 02:58.35 | ajavid | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/356 |
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| 02:59.07 | grml | is there a ftp link where i can download the latest install isos? |
| 02:59.10 | nsadmin | don't let me stop you! |
| 02:59.10 | cantido | ajavid: the stuff mentioned in that tutorial, codecs etc is now moot |
| 02:59.18 | ajavid | I see |
| 02:59.30 | ajavid | nsadmin, you're not stopping me, I'm unstoppable! |
| 02:59.32 | cantido | ajavid: also there are tools for creating 32bit libs packages.. if you need 32bit libs for something |
| 02:59.49 | ajavid | cantido, no, just need sid in a 32bit chroot, and one in amd64 |
| 02:59.57 | ajavid | need to build pacakges for these two arch |
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| 03:00.19 | ajavid | so for dev work i need to setup a chroot sid, I've never exclusively used stable before |
| 03:00.21 | cantido | ajavid: I think you can compile packages for i386 without a complete i386 system around :~ |
| 03:00.25 | ajavid | I been on sid for 8 yars |
| 03:01.23 | ajavid | well chroot helps to keep it seperated/organized |
| 03:01.23 | ajavid | I dunno, im not really sure how to do this |
| 03:01.24 | ajavid | what your'e talking about, chroots Iv'e done plenty of times long time ago in the past |
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| 03:01.24 | ajavid | been 2-3 yeasr since I setup chroot |
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| 03:01.24 | \amethyst | you can use pbuilder for setting up package building chroots |
| 03:01.24 | ajavid | memory is vague |
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| 03:01.25 | ajavid | i see |
| 03:01.25 | ajavid | let me look into pbuidlder |
| 03:01.31 | ajavid | anything else I should look into? |
| 03:01.52 | hikenboot | http://pastebin.ca/1467109 hello I have a bunch of virtual machines some debian some centos and some ubuntu trying to ping thru one used as a gateway and am unable to do it this is all setup in vmware..thanks for the help |
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| 03:03.01 | cantido | hikenboot: you're trying to ping the vms from outside? |
| 03:08.17 | hikenboot | no from the vms to the outside |
| 03:08.43 | hikenboot | the open_wrt router doesnt have a ping feature in it so i dont know if it works the othe way around |
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| 03:19.44 | ajavid | just discovered a problem in my xorg 7.4 in stable, its not so stable |
| 03:19.55 | ajavid | it runs/works/ great, all 3d is fantastic |
| 03:20.20 | ajavid | when you shutdown X, entire sysmtem hangs, magic sysrq doesn't respond, more than likely its my gfx someting |
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| 03:20.52 | ajavid | but other than that, its fine, and I don't really need to restart X anymore I don't think I've done everything I needed to, I don't think I have a need to restart for anything anymore |
| 03:21.00 | ajavid | fantastic.. this is what I'm talking about |
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| 03:21.25 | ajavid | obviously i can't file any bugs or ask for support on something that from unstable onto stable.. but this is my experience so far |
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| 03:30.42 | grnmtn | can anyone recommend a simple CLI tool to play ogg icecast streams in lenny stable? |
| 03:30.51 | cheeseboy | is there a way to copy all my users / passwords from one box to another automagically? |
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| 03:31.26 | danilom | some program to scan?¿ i have a hp f4280 |
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| 03:32.58 | cheeseboy | grnmtn, audacious ? |
| 03:33.44 | cheeseboy | srry didnt see cli |
| 03:33.45 | grnmtn | cheeseboy: thanks, checking out now . . . |
| 03:33.48 | grnmtn | oh |
| 03:33.55 | streuner_ | danilom: xsane? |
| 03:34.24 | grnmtn | yeah, it's an old computer - geode 300mh processor, only 1GB memory, so I'm looking for something really minimal |
| 03:34.34 | grnmtn | might go with mplayer cli, if I can't find anything else |
| 03:34.37 | yosho | Hey, I'm trying to use scp on an osx machine to move a directory over to a debian (lenny) machine. Anyone willing to help me? It's my first time here, and I'm still a newbie. (if anyone responds I'll post my shell and such, but I don't want to spam) |
| 03:34.46 | grnmtn | ogg123 works in other distros, but I don't see it in debian stable |
| 03:34.58 | danilom | streuner_, xsane use the cups package?? |
| 03:35.34 | streuner_ | danilom: cups is for printing, xsane for scanning |
| 03:35.35 | grnmtn | yosho: I've actually never used scp myself, but I could help you with sftp |
| 03:35.50 | yosho | cool, thanks grnmtn |
| 03:36.11 | grnmtn | yosho: do you have ssh server installed on the debian machine? |
| 03:36.26 | yosho | yeah, I've got sftp on it |
| 03:36.31 | cheeseboy | grnmtn, ogg123 is prolly names sumtin like vorbis tools in debian |
| 03:36.38 | grnmtn | cheeseboy: thanks |
| 03:37.02 | yosho | I don't know how to set it so it can access the folder in /var/www/forum I want (needs to be root?) |
| 03:37.12 | streuner_ | danilom: check out sane website in order to get more infos |
| 03:37.20 | danilom | thanks |
| 03:37.37 | grnmtn | /var/www/forum on the os x box? |
| 03:38.22 | yosho | grnmtn: no, I want to send a directory ("extensions") to the debian server:/var/www/forum |
| 03:38.45 | grnmtn | actually, now that I think about, recursive copying is a difficult with sftp . .. I use sshfs instead myself . .. but scp should work |
| 03:38.52 | streuner_ | danilom: i just installed xsane, done, a HP 5600 Officejet |
| 03:39.00 | grnmtn | let me test . . . |
| 03:39.30 | yosho | when I do "sayoko:~ yoshokatana$ scp -r Desktop/extensions/* root@38.99.2.166:/var/www/forum/extensions |
| 03:39.40 | yosho | I get "root@38.99.2.166's password: |
| 03:39.40 | yosho | Permission denied, please try again." |
| 03:39.53 | danilom | streuner_, xsane send me a error message.. there is some other thing to do? |
| 03:40.16 | yosho | whereas when I try with a normal user, I get a normal permissions error: |
| 03:40.18 | grnmtn | yosho: first, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server, and make sure root login is enabled |
| 03:40.19 | yosho | "sayoko:~ yoshokatana$ scp -r Desktop/extensions 38.99.2.166:/var/www/forum/extensions |
| 03:40.19 | yosho | yoshokatana@38.99.2.166's password: |
| 03:40.19 | yosho | scp: /var/www/forum/extensions/extensions: Permission denied" |
| 03:40.37 | streuner_ | danilom: as root? |
| 03:40.42 | grnmtn | yosho: does your normal user have permission to write to that directory? |
| 03:40.44 | yosho | I'm ssh'd into the server in another terminal window, and I know the root password |
| 03:40.50 | yosho | grnmtn: no |
| 03:40.50 | grnmtn | ok |
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| 03:41.04 | danilom | streuner_, no im trying under normal user |
| 03:41.24 | grnmtn | simplest work around would be two copy it as normal user to your home directory, and then move it as root on the server |
| 03:41.34 | grnmtn | but, you should be able to get root login to work |
| 03:41.42 | yosho | yeah... |
| 03:41.43 | yosho | :-/ |
| 03:41.45 | streuner_ | danilom: hm, try it as root, i have no idea HOW to configure it as normal user... |
| 03:41.54 | yosho | hmm, lemme make sure I can ssh again as root |
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| 03:42.37 | yosho | the shit? |
| 03:42.45 | grnmtn | ? |
| 03:42.53 | yosho | "sayoko:~ yoshokatana$ ssh root@38.99.2.166 |
| 03:42.53 | yosho | root@38.99.2.166's password: |
| 03:42.53 | yosho | Permission denied, please try again." |
| 03:43.15 | grnmtn | and you checked to see that root login is enabled in sshd_config? |
| 03:43.36 | grnmtn | "PermitRootLogin yes" |
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| 03:43.44 | yosho | I didn't, but I'm already ssh'd in as root. where's sshd_config? |
| 03:43.48 | grnmtn | ah |
| 03:43.54 | grnmtn | it is in /etc/ssh/ |
| 03:43.57 | yosho | ok |
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| 03:44.20 | ajavid | did u restart sshd after config |
| 03:44.21 | ajavid | ? |
| 03:45.06 | danilom | streuner_, still dont work... |
| 03:45.08 | Dracie | is it possible to disable smooth text scrolling in less? it really is a pet peive of mine |
| 03:45.27 | grnmtn | ajavid: good point (after yosho changes it) |
| 03:45.27 | streuner_ | danilom: is the scanner supported at all? |
| 03:45.28 | danilom | the power button is flashing |
| 03:45.44 | grnmtn | (sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart) |
| 03:45.47 | danilom | i cant see it in supported devides in sane web page |
| 03:45.52 | yosho | grnmtn: ah. it was set to no. that explains it. will "sshd restart" restart it? |
| 03:45.57 | yosho | oh |
| 03:45.59 | yosho | nevermind |
| 03:46.03 | yosho | grnmtn: thanks |
| 03:46.05 | grnmtn | sure |
| 03:46.22 | streuner_ | danilom: crap, check out usenet (groups.google.com) then |
| 03:46.23 | grnmtn | if that server has ssh access from the web, I wouldn't leave root login enabled |
| 03:46.43 | grnmtn | really, you should set up public key authentication, and disable password logins altogether to be safe |
| 03:47.00 | yosho | roger |
| 03:47.05 | grnmtn | http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ |
| 03:47.24 | grnmtn | ok, that's enough of the sysadmin in me lecturing about security :) |
| 03:47.28 | streuner_ | danilom: look into dmesg and /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages too (what does the kernel think about your device...) |
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| 03:47.55 | danilom | ok |
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| 03:48.18 | yosho | grnmtn: no worries. I'm a tech support guy, and our sysadmin is pretty hard on us about security. it's good though. I'd be worried if he wasn't |
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| 03:50.29 | grnmtn | uggh, debian has some really ugly dependencies: openssh-server requires x11-common, and vorbis-tools requires openssl |
| 03:51.36 | cheeseboy | grnmtn, compile it \o/ |
| 03:51.36 | cheeseboy | compiling on 300mhz is win |
| 03:51.46 | streuner_ | there is surely a reason why the maint did that (depends) |
| 03:51.46 | yosho | stupid question: what permissions (octal) do I want for a normal user's home folder? I mkdir'd /home/[user]/.ssh and .ssh/authorized_keys under root... |
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| 03:51.46 | grnmtn | yeah . . . but then I wouldn't get security updates - and I've have to install build-essential, which be worse the aforementioned dependencies |
| 03:51.46 | yosho | 700? |
| 03:51.47 | grnmtn | 700 works |
| 03:51.54 | ajavid | 644 |
| 03:52.03 | grnmtn | for .ssh? |
| 03:52.18 | ajavid | 654 |
| 03:52.21 | ajavid | idunno |
| 03:52.25 | ajavid | ogh ssh |
| 03:52.31 | ajavid | nm. |
| 03:52.37 | yosho | ajavid: you ok there? |
| 03:52.38 | grnmtn | 700 - you don't want others to read it |
| 03:52.44 | yosho | grnmtn: yeah |
| 03:52.54 | ajavid | i didnt pay attention |
| 03:53.04 | ajavid | i read as far as folder? |
| 03:53.06 | ajavid | heh |
| 03:53.10 | ajavid | im retarded |
| 03:53.19 | yosho | hmm... |
| 03:53.39 | grnmtn | the moment of truth - will a 300mhz geode stream ogg ?!?! |
| 03:53.42 | yosho | when I try to import the key "sayoko:~ yoshokatana$ scp ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub 38.99.2.166:.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 03:53.42 | yosho | yoshokatana@38.99.2.166's password: |
| 03:53.42 | yosho | scp: .ssh/authorized_keys: Permission denied" |
| 03:54.02 | grnmtn | oh, I forgot all about configuringn the soundcard :( |
| 03:54.12 | adb | ajavid: how compiled 7.4 all (there are to many tar.bz2 ...) |
| 03:54.21 | grnmtn | chown yourusername .ssh |
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| 03:54.32 | yosho | RIGHT. |
| 03:54.54 | ajavid | magic |
| 03:54.57 | ajavid | patience |
| 03:54.58 | adb | heh |
| 03:55.01 | yosho | oh mans. |
| 03:55.03 | yosho | awesome. |
| 03:55.07 | ajavid | long time experience |
| 03:55.14 | adb | by hands ? |
| 03:55.19 | ajavid | yup |
| 03:55.24 | adb | all ? |
| 03:55.30 | yosho | thanks grnmtn and ajavid |
| 03:55.33 | ajavid | well using build configs from sid |
| 03:55.45 | ajavid | to keep it degbianized |
| 03:55.45 | grnmtn | np |
| 03:55.48 | adb | ha ? |
| 03:55.56 | ajavid | ? |
| 03:56.06 | adb | i have to look at it |
| 03:56.18 | adb | thanks |
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| 03:56.48 | ajavid | yeh np |
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| 03:57.20 | adb | same for python2.6 |
| 03:57.24 | adb | ? |
| 03:57.33 | ajavid | yessir |
| 03:57.35 | adb | i guess |
| 03:57.49 | adb | thanks |
| 03:57.53 | ajavid | yup |
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| 03:58.33 | ajavid | i filed itp fo something few weeks back and still haven;'t had a chance to finish it up |
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| 03:58.42 | grnmtn | does anyone know if there's automated way to re-setup hardware after moving hardrive with a debian install from from one computer to another |
| 03:58.43 | ajavid | its packaged but its old, i need to redo it |
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| 03:59.09 | rue_mohr | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debianutils_2.30_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/add-shell', which is also in package passwd |
| 03:59.10 | dpkg | rue_mohr: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 03:59.26 | rue_mohr | sure sure dpkg |
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| 04:00.18 | ajavid | openarena here I come |
| 04:00.34 | rue_mohr | anyone know the answer to my error? |
| 04:01.08 | LV-426_ | for some reason libvirt insists on using '/dev/pts/2' as it's console device which is missing on my udev enabled VM. any way to define 'pts2' statically with a udev rule ? |
| 04:01.13 | ajavid | so far I got this performance, 27462 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5492.362 FPS |
| 04:04.28 | rue_mohr | whats in debianutils thats so important? |
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| 04:04.36 | rue_mohr | looks like a bunch of junk to me |
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| 04:06.50 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: what version does dpkg -l passwd say you have? |
| 04:07.47 | rue_mohr | ii passwd 1:4.0.3-31sarge9 I told it to remove debianutils, so it might be new now |
| 04:07.50 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 04:07.55 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: um |
| 04:08.01 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: that's an ancient version of passwd |
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| 04:08.02 | rue_mohr | but now someone needs tempfile, so I suppose I have to try to put it back |
| 04:08.40 | rue_mohr | its stuck trying to resolve this |
| 04:08.52 | \amethyst | upgrade passwd to the lenny version |
| 04:08.53 | rue_mohr | can I force passwd without debianutils? |
| 04:09.00 | rue_mohr | uh... |
| 04:09.06 | rue_mohr | hows that go again? |
| 04:09.29 | \amethyst | aptitude install passwd |
| 04:09.44 | rue_mohr | no it locks up... |
| 04:10.20 | rue_mohr | http://www.pastebin.ca/1467171 |
| 04:10.39 | ajavid | whoah sarge? |
| 04:10.48 | ajavid | dang... thats like sooo 2004ish |
| 04:11.03 | rue_mohr | hey, its a phonesystem it didn't have to be cutting edge |
| 04:11.13 | rue_mohr | I just need the modultils to work so I can put in my new drivers |
| 04:11.42 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: looks like you have some corrupted .debs maybe? |
| 04:11.52 | rue_mohr | k, I clean |
| 04:12.42 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: hm, you might need to upgrade your apt/aptitude/dpkg as well |
| 04:13.38 | rue_mohr | http://www.pastebin.ca/1467176 |
| 04:13.42 | rue_mohr | ? |
| 04:14.16 | rue_mohr | can I safely temp remove passwd? |
| 04:14.38 | grnmtn | hurray! 300mhz geode 64mb ram can play streaming audio |
| 04:14.45 | rue_mohr | I think I can |
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| 04:15.51 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: might be worth doing a reinstall |
| 04:15.52 | rue_mohr | its got a dependancy error now, I'm gettng dizzy |
| 04:16.03 | rue_mohr | oh this happens all the time with me |
| 04:16.20 | \amethyst | normally you'd upgrade from sarge to etch then from etch to lenny |
| 04:16.52 | rue_mohr | I cnt tell with all the names, numbers really are nice |
| 04:17.06 | rue_mohr | maybe if they had gona aphabetically? |
| 04:17.21 | rue_mohr | andrew brent charlie david ? |
| 04:17.36 | rue_mohr | then atleast I could tell the head from the ass |
| 04:17.38 | rue_mohr | :) |
| 04:17.47 | rue_mohr | k, well |
| 04:17.56 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: from 3.1 to 4.0 then from 4.0 to 5.0 |
| 04:18.37 | rue_mohr | hmm |
| 04:18.40 | rue_mohr | 3 eh? |
| 04:19.08 | rue_mohr | so my sources must say 'stable' ? |
| 04:19.16 | rue_mohr | they shoudl say.... |
| 04:19.23 | rue_mohr | etch? |
| 04:19.47 | craigevil | i would try with etch not stable |
| 04:19.49 | rue_mohr | grr less is broken |
| 04:20.00 | \amethyst | yeah, change them to etch, try a dist-upgrade; then change them to lenny, and follow the lenny release notes |
| 04:20.13 | \amethyst | rue_mohr: though you might have gotten it into a state where you can't fix it |
| 04:20.28 | rue_mohr | na, I always pull thru |
| 04:20.40 | rue_mohr | sometimes there is blood involved |
| 04:21.01 | rue_mohr | havn't had to sacrifice anything larger than a toaster to the great god |
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| 04:21.22 | craigevil | debianutils is a required package, might be simpler and faster to just install lenny |
| 04:21.40 | rue_mohr | I dont want to have to completely reconstruct thsi machine |
| 04:21.45 | rue_mohr | its a phonesystem |
| 04:22.54 | rue_mohr | eek, no ssh left |
| 04:23.00 | rue_mohr | damn, this is getting trickey |
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| 04:27.18 | rue_mohr | according to this, its up to date with ...etch |
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| 04:29.42 | rue_mohr | groupadd: invalid option -- K |
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| 04:30.04 | rue_mohr | Setting up libuuid1 (1.41.3-1) ... someone changed something and forgot to be backwards compatible |
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| 04:31.17 | rue_mohr | is there a --ignoreallerrorsandkeepgoing option? |
| 04:32.45 | joeytwiddle | yes, --force-all i think |
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| 04:33.58 | rue_mohr | E: Command line option --force-all is not understood |
| 04:34.13 | joeytwiddle | oh i think that's for dpkg |
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| 04:34.48 | rue_mohr | oh, right |
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| 04:35.06 | rue_mohr | see if dpkg can blindly push me thru this |
| 04:35.41 | joeytwiddle | be careful ;) |
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| 04:35.53 | rue_mohr | its broken, the only way to fix it is to break it more |
| 04:35.58 | rue_mohr | gets out the sledge |
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| 04:37.33 | eyeris | I have a built-in sound card and a USB headset w/ mic. I've been using both fine for months. Last night I shut down the computer and unplugged it because there was an electrical storm. I turned it on today and now the USB headset is never recognized, aplay -l never shows the playback device and /var/log/messages never shows the USB detection, regardless of which USB port I plug it into. |
| 04:39.01 | eyeris | alsa is still working, because it does recognize the built-in sound card, but playing anything via the alsa devices fails as my user, which has write permissions to the devices, but works as root |
| 04:39.03 | zinx | are other USB devices detected? |
| 04:39.17 | eyeris | Yes, my mouse is detected, as well as my printer. |
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| 04:39.32 | eyeris | All controllers are listed properly by usbview |
| 04:39.36 | zinx | maybe something wrong w/ the cable on the usb headset :/ |
| 04:40.13 | rue_mohr | making progress |
| 04:40.20 | zinx | alsa needs your user to be part of the 'audio' group in Debian - and after adding your user to that group, you need to log out and back in, in any sessions you want the new groups to take effect in |
| 04:40.29 | eyeris | Let me try it with my laptop, brb. |
| 04:40.41 | zinx | you can check your current groups w/ 'id' |
| 04:41.18 | eyeris | zinx I have that. |
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| 04:41.24 | eyeris | Like I said, it's been working for months. |
| 04:41.41 | eyeris | The only thing that has changed is that I turned the PC off for a while. |
| 04:41.54 | zinx | should be able to play audio if you're in the audio group, yeah :x |
| 04:42.04 | rue_mohr | initscripts wants to remove sysvinit!? |
| 04:44.14 | eyeris | perhaps the headset really is broken |
| 04:44.20 | eyeris | it doesn't work with my laptop either |
| 04:44.38 | eyeris | strange that it would break while just sitting on top of the computer, but I guess it did |
| 04:44.44 | zinx | it happens :( |
| 04:44.52 | zinx | it may just be the cable |
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| 04:45.29 | eyeris | Now I need to figure out why my alsa devices fail for my user, despite being in the audio group, and despite their working for root |
| 04:45.56 | zinx | aye |
| 04:46.04 | zinx | that doesn't make much sense |
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| 04:46.58 | meder | hello |
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| 04:48.26 | meder | i'm logging in to my server through ssh on a different pc and my ip has changed. i know one solution is to remove the known_hosts file *entirely* but is it possible to actually decode the EXACT line, for a precision edit? |
| 04:48.46 | rue_mohr | ok whats the deal with initscripts/modutils/sysvinit |
| 04:48.55 | rue_mohr | what are we supposed to have now? |
| 04:49.07 | eyeris | meder well, openssh will tell you which line when you try to connect |
| 04:49.32 | meder | Oh, I didn't even see that. |
| 04:49.33 | meder | Thanks. |
| 04:49.37 | eyeris | meder it would be some strange scripting, but you could test the exit status and, if it fails, parse out the line number |
| 04:50.15 | meder | eyeris: just so i understand, it saved the key from my PC on the previous IP i had? or how exactly did it know? |
| 04:50.30 | meder | i think the only thing that changed was my IP |
| 04:50.47 | joeytwiddle | rue_mohr: i have initscripts and sysvinit, but not modutils |
| 04:50.48 | meder | this is the same os, same hard drive. the server is the same os, same hd.. my ip on this pc changed b/c of an isp upgrade. |
| 04:51.08 | rue_mohr | I asked for them all at once, and it was ok |
| 04:51.10 | rue_mohr | (??) |
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| 04:51.29 | eyeris | meder, yes, the known_hosts file contains the IP address, albeit obscured |
| 04:52.33 | wakariera | i refreshed an online stream and firefox just crapped on me lol anyhelp |
| 04:52.42 | wakariera | i think to do with java |
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| 04:53.51 | rue_mohr | yay! its done, its upgraded |
| 04:54.06 | rue_mohr | I dont know if it will boot, but according to apt its up to date |
| 04:54.41 | rue_mohr | I can ssh to it again, this is a plus |
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| 04:56.00 | spikerman | who can help me ? i can't start x server by typing "xstart",log is here "http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/15671" |
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| 04:56.14 | rue_mohr | OOoooOoo took me 7 versions to get the kernel right and now I have to recompile it |
| 04:56.17 | rue_mohr | gulp |
| 04:56.30 | wakariera | where are java logs stored anyone? or iceweasel |
| 04:57.52 | rue_mohr | spikerman, your video drivers are screwed, please try again with a different combination of random options |
| 04:58.03 | rue_mohr | I think |
| 04:58.11 | rue_mohr | (therefore I am) |
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| 04:59.41 | enouf | deschutes or descartes? |
| 04:59.57 | enouf | only one is a snail :-P |
| 05:00.09 | spikerman | rue_mohr: do i need change which file ?xorg.conf? |
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| 05:01.27 | enouf | egrep 'EE|drv' /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 05:02.26 | rue_mohr | spikerman, not sure :/ |
| 05:02.40 | spikerman | enouf: no error |
| 05:02.44 | rue_mohr | I dont mess with X so I dont have to fix the video settings |
| 05:02.47 | rue_mohr | 3 times was enough |
| 05:10.44 | rue_mohr | wholy @#$$%^ what did they do to make menuconfig!? |
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| 05:11.35 | svensko | hey, is packages.debian down for anyone else? |
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| 05:13.19 | cantido | svensko: fine here |
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| 05:14.21 | svensko | very odd... hmm... oh well... |
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| 05:32.18 | jmoncayo | hey guys, i am using sun virtualbox, i am trying to mount a usb pendrive into my virtual machine, devices->usb->pendrive shows but it says unavailable, how can i fix this, am i missing something? |
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| 05:35.55 | Koheleth | Morning all |
| 05:36.30 | Koheleth | has this been addressed? http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6601 |
| 05:36.49 | jmoncayo | anyone here uses sun virtual box? |
| 05:37.08 | wooj | Koheleth, apache hadn't released a fix as of yesterday, dunno about today. |
| 05:37.49 | Koheleth | ok, thanks, thought it was patched the other day but was not sure, has a warning from my server people this morning |
| 05:38.07 | Koheleth | had even |
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| 05:41.51 | hark | jmoncayo: USB support is only in non free version |
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| 05:43.01 | wooj | I thought VirtualBox was open source and supported USB 2.0? |
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| 05:44.01 | jmoncayo | i found the work around |
| 05:44.32 | jmoncayo | i am logged in as a user, and i have a root terminal, how can i start a X program from the root terminal? |
| 05:45.32 | cheeseboy | is there a way to copy all my users / passwords from one box to another automagically? |
| 05:46.05 | rue_mohr | you want central passwd control? |
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| 05:49.21 | hark | wooj: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions |
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| 06:05.42 | jmoncayo | whats the groupid for plugdev? |
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| 06:11.10 | spiff | cat /etc/group|grep plug |
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| 06:14.53 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ...i cant mount the NTFS partition i have here |
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| 06:15.31 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: I know exactly what it is .. but I'm not going to give you any details. |
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| 06:15.41 | cobra-the-joker | http://pastebin.com/da326788 |
| 06:15.47 | cobra-the-joker | pls see this |
| 06:17.11 | spiff | cantido: not even man mount? thats cold :> |
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| 06:17.21 | cobra-the-joker | actually i know the mount command ...but there is a problem |
| 06:17.39 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: have you tried what it's told you? |
| 06:18.13 | cobra-the-joker | Forcing you meen ??...no ...its my primary driver where i have all my stuff .... |
| 06:18.38 | cobra-the-joker | and its saying that there is a risk |
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| 06:18.58 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: From what I gather, I don't use NTFS, it's saying the filesystem is still marked as mounted, so you should boot windows and unmount it correctly there first |
| 06:19.16 | cobra-the-joker | mmmmm...ok then |
| 06:19.44 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: Well, it's a risk mounting a closed filesystem with reverse-engineered code in the first place ;) |
| 06:20.07 | cobra-the-joker | :D |
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| 06:22.24 | Bambi_BOFH | it cant be mounted in windows if hes not got it booted |
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| 06:22.47 | cantido | Bambi_BOFH: the filesystem could still be marked as unclean |
| 06:23.18 | Bambi_BOFH | cantido, yes, but thats a job for NTs fsck equivilant (which i forget what it is - chdsk?) |
| 06:23.19 | cantido | Bambi_BOFH: e.g. it was mounted in Windows and then it crashed or the power got pulled. |
| 06:23.57 | cantido | Bambi_BOFH: Hence ntfs 3g is saying to cleanly unmount it in Windows first |
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| 06:47.40 | omidlenny | hey guys, i need help. is it possible to get cpu graph by mrtg from my lenny server? |
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| 06:49.25 | dyhadr | is there anyway to only recompile only modules for a kernel (or preferably only a certain module)? |
| 06:49.30 | dyhadr | using make-kpkg |
| 06:50.59 | bpun | dyhadr, y, by deleting just the object file of the module as well as its target |
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| 06:51.30 | bpun | dyhadr, but ur question is incomplete -- it makes no sense what ur doing |
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| 07:00.22 | enouf | chkdsk /r or /f needs to be run run from within a windows boot |
| 07:00.39 | enouf | ask ###windows |
| 07:00.55 | enouf | about Recovery Console |
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| 07:01.41 | Garp | Hi. |
| 07:01.41 | omidlenny | hey sorry i got disconnected. did anyone replyed me? |
| 07:01.41 | enouf | dyhadr: depends on versions |
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| 07:01.53 | Garp | Question: Lenny debian installer: how to create an LVM crypted container in manual partitionning? I just donc get it, thanks. |
| 07:02.09 | enouf | dyhadr: the _best_ you can do is rm ./debian/* ... and run make-kpkg again |
| 07:02.42 | nsadmin | does debian installer do crypt? |
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| 07:02.49 | enouf | !tell Garp -about i=g |
| 07:02.53 | enouf | !tell Garp -about i-g |
| 07:03.00 | Garp | nsadmin: yes, it does, but only in some assited mode |
| 07:03.15 | nsadmin | why not use that |
| 07:03.17 | enouf | ofcourse it does |
| 07:03.24 | nsadmin | what's the difference in the result |
| 07:03.30 | enouf | cryptsetup |
| 07:03.53 | Garp | nsadmin: the problem is that it doenst give choice for the size of the partitions |
| 07:04.01 | enouf | try 'expert' mode for more refined |
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| 07:04.06 | Garp | nsadmin: netither numbers of them |
| 07:04.17 | enouf | hit F!-F10 |
| 07:04.24 | enouf | er F1 |
| 07:04.41 | Garp | OK, I'll try. |
| 07:05.24 | ajavid | enouf, I got my setup |
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| 07:05.45 | enouf | ajavid: wonderous |
| 07:05.49 | ajavid | enouf, The perfect setup... Debian Lenny 5.0, Xorg 7.4 + Radeon Free, KDE 3.5.10, Custom 2.6.29 Kernel, 2.0TB EXT4 Array... Ubuntu can go F itself |
| 07:06.07 | enouf | ajavid: now .. sell it :-p |
| 07:06.10 | ajavid | enouf, and I got python 2.6 intalled too, packaged |
| 07:06.11 | Garp | enouf: thanks for the dpkg msg. |
| 07:06.14 | ajavid | enouf, heh, shaddup |
| 07:06.21 | enouf | Garp: welcome |
| 07:06.30 | enouf | !spank ajavid |
| 07:06.30 | dpkg | bends ajavid over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 07:06.41 | meder | now don't stone me guys, but aren't ubuntu's packages ( i know the core ones are derived from Debian ) more up to date than debian's? and isnt that the whole purpose of using it instead of debian? |
| 07:06.49 | meder | hides behind spartan shield |
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| 07:07.13 | enouf | meder: "more up to date" is a silly presumption ... |
| 07:07.26 | omidlenny | i need help. can i get cpu graph by mrtg from my lenny server? |
| 07:07.27 | enouf | especially if they are pulling from Debian reps |
| 07:07.31 | enouf | repos |
| 07:07.32 | meder | heh |
| 07:07.40 | meder | for a *desktop*, you say right? |
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| 07:07.46 | meder | i mean, for a server obviously ill use Lenny |
| 07:07.53 | meder | but for a *desktop* iunno |
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| 07:08.04 | enouf | meder: what is your real question? |
| 07:08.26 | meder | i'm not trying to start a war or anything, but maybe you can persuade me into using Lenny for desktop too |
| 07:08.32 | Pendrag0n | silly question, I read the man page, but my format is wrong: "tar cvzf --exclude='*.tar.gz' backups.tar.gz backups/" Is still taring the tars in the backup directory, I just want all the other files |
| 07:08.36 | enouf | meder: for a desktop, squeeeze is ok, but bumpy |
| 07:08.48 | meder | huh |
| 07:09.02 | enouf | meder: otherwise .. let OTHER people handle the bumps |
| 07:09.03 | Pendrag0n | any ideas on how to correct my exclude? |
| 07:09.07 | bpun | meder, persuasion takes no brains.. if ur smart someone may be able to convince u if ur a rational person |
| 07:09.15 | meder | heh |
| 07:09.33 | enouf | Pendrag0n: use =./ |
| 07:09.46 | enouf | or ./path/to/exclude |
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| 07:10.03 | meder | i've used Etch before and i just felt like Ubuntu had a lot more to offer, and it's packages were obviously more up to date but then again debian has backports and now Lenny is using newer packages natively.. |
| 07:10.11 | meder | maybe i should give Lenny desktop another try |
| 07:10.14 | enouf | meder: Lenny also has -backports |
| 07:10.26 | enouf | meder: which is Sid software |
| 07:10.36 | omidlenny | dpkg: mrtg |
| 07:10.36 | dpkg | mrtg is, like, old, use <rrdtool> instead. Check out http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html and RRDTOOL is at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ |
| 07:10.38 | meder | Sid = always the newest Debian right? |
| 07:10.44 | enouf | !backports.org |
| 07:10.44 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
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| 07:10.52 | Pendrag0n | o ok |
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| 07:11.12 | enouf | meder: well .. except fpr experimental, yes |
| 07:11.31 | enouf | meder: but if you didn't know about that - all the better :-P |
| 07:11.33 | karsten | !tell neo2k_ about releases |
| 07:11.38 | karsten | neo2k_: SOmewhat. |
| 07:11.59 | enouf | !hug karsten |
| 07:11.59 | dpkg | gives karsten a hug |
| 07:12.06 | karsten | Awww... |
| 07:12.45 | ajavid | get a room |
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| 07:14.17 | karsten | ajavid: Only if you'll join us |
| 07:15.22 | enouf | ajavid: stop |
| 07:15.49 | ham5 | I want my 32bit binarys to work again:( |
| 07:15.58 | ajavid | enouf, you got a problem? |
| 07:16.06 | ajavid | don't make me get up old man! |
| 07:16.15 | ajavid | runs away |
| 07:16.43 | enouf | ajavid: don't make me whip out my cane! :-P |
| 07:17.01 | ajavid | eh |
| 07:17.06 | ajavid | old man on calculator |
| 07:17.09 | ajavid | :D |
| 07:17.17 | ajavid | 2mhz cpu |
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| 07:17.34 | ajavid | AHAHAHAHA with midori browser! |
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| 07:17.43 | ajavid | runs away again |
| 07:17.57 | meder | \n much |
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| 07:18.26 | sumasuma | What package I need to install to get the sha256 command working ? |
| 07:18.58 | nsadmin | sumasuma: http://packages.debian.org |
| 07:19.28 | ajavid | 8GB ram is how much exactly? |
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| 07:19.34 | ajavid | 8192 MB right? |
| 07:19.48 | ajavid | mem total used |
| 07:19.48 | Garp | OK, I think I understood: my mistake was the following: Creating LVM -> looking how to xrypt it. It's the opposite: Create some crypted container -> Put LVM in. |
| 07:19.50 | ajavid | Mem: 8006 2684 |
| 07:19.57 | nsadmin | 8192 Mib |
| 07:19.58 | ajavid | why does it show 8006 instead of 8192 |
| 07:19.59 | ajavid | ? |
| 07:20.02 | ajavid | ohh |
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| 07:20.15 | ajavid | so its like the same as hdd people |
| 07:20.25 | ajavid | like 500gb is 465 for real |
| 07:21.22 | karsten | ajavid: binary v. decimal units. MB == decimal, MiB == binary |
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| 07:21.42 | ajavid | i see |
| 07:22.20 | omidlenny | is that possible to get cpu graph by mrtg from my lenny server? |
| 07:23.22 | nsadmin | mrtg can get just about anythings snmp can see |
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| 07:25.03 | omidlenny | nsadmin: but i get memory/network graphs |
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| 07:39.53 | cobra-the-joker | hey there guys ....any body knows how to add C++ to Eclipse IDE ??? |
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| 07:41.40 | OpenTokix | cobra-the-joker: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/tips/CPP_Dev_eclipse_CDT.aspx |
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| 07:42.01 | OpenTokix | windowws screenies tho, but CDT is there for all plattforms |
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| 07:45.34 | cobra-the-joker | OpenTokix , Thanx |
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| 07:47.04 | Garp | ajavid: no, unswapable kernel memory is not displayed |
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| 08:09.03 | cobra-the-joker | whats the Build Command for C++ ?? |
| 08:13.47 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: gcc |
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| 08:14.21 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: or maybe make, if that's the build system being used |
| 08:15.20 | cobra-the-joker | cantido , ok |
| 08:15.37 | cobra-the-joker | really C++ compiling in linux is shit |
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| 08:16.42 | raz0 | compiling in linux is shit? |
| 08:17.00 | raz0 | I've found compiling in linux to be a breeze compared to doing it in e.g. windows |
| 08:17.20 | xingu | you're always free to return it for a full refund |
| 08:17.45 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: a lot of people use the same compiler in windows |
| 08:17.48 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: osx ... |
| 08:18.20 | cobra-the-joker | I Used to use Dev C++ in windows |
| 08:18.32 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: which is GCC based |
| 08:18.44 | cahoot | surely all serious development is done in windows |
| 08:18.56 | raz0 | lol |
| 08:18.59 | cantido | in notepad |
| 08:19.28 | cahoot | afaik linus and the rest are on vista |
| 08:19.31 | xingu | with an ide that buggy, you better be pretty po-faced. |
| 08:19.46 | cobra-the-joker | Moving to Linux Dev is a bit Different to me |
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| 08:20.30 | cantido | cobra-the-joker: most systems use some gcc port + something like make for handling builds,.. |
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| 08:22.00 | cobra-the-joker | I have got anjuta here in linux ...but i cant get the compile button :D:D |
| 08:22.29 | eject_ck | hi all, how can I check that mounted iso is used at this moment? |
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| 08:23.20 | eject_ck | I need to check that some files still copying from mounted iso |
| 08:23.41 | eject_ck | something like iostat in bsd |
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| 08:24.19 | nkuttler | eject_ck: what does that do? |
| 08:26.10 | ajavid | Garp, come again |
| 08:26.36 | ajavid | Garp, 188mb == unswappable kernel space? |
| 08:26.39 | eject_ck | shows bytes in/out for device |
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| 08:27.57 | cahoot | http://linux.die.net/man/1/iostat |
| 08:29.13 | cantido | has no iostat |
| 08:29.34 | hark | install it then |
| 08:29.54 | cantido | ah, inside sysstat apparently |
| 08:29.57 | ajavid | http://debconf9.debconf.org/ |
| 08:30.14 | ajavid | wow spain |
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| 08:30.27 | xingu | !info iotop |
| 08:30.33 | dpkg | iotop: (simple top-like I/O monitor), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 160 kB |
| 08:31.21 | cantido | atop does block io and net io in a top-like interface too |
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| 08:38.51 | cacaca | ee |
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| 08:54.50 | Garp | ajavid: oups! :( |
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| 08:54.56 | Garp | ajavid: well, you're right |
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| 08:55.41 | Garp | ajavid: I didnt read your nupmbers carefully enough |
| 08:55.47 | Garp | (have to go, reboot, etc.) |
| 08:55.50 | Garp | see ya |
| 08:56.00 | booiiing | hi all |
| 08:56.34 | booiiing | i want to set up a caching proxy to reduce the load of my tor-connection and wonder what the preferred way in debian would be? |
| 08:58.00 | booiiing | it would be a small setup for personal use |
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| 08:59.30 | khaleel5000 | hello, i have debian testing, i have kde 4.2, i am using nv drivers for my Nvidia 9600M GT, its very smooth, kde 4.2 is working better with it than the 'nvidia's propritory package, but the video playback isnot smooth, |
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| 09:00.30 | khaleel5000 | http://pastebin.com/m3aee2728 my xorg is ihere |
| 09:04.30 | booiiing | khaleel5000, what player are you using? |
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| 09:06.12 | arvind_khadri | hi, is there a DOOM build for lenny :) |
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| 09:08.41 | jeeves | how do I copy a CD to a USB stick? I have a bootable CD (Windows) that I need to make a bootable USB stick of to install on my netbook. Anyideas |
| 09:08.44 | micols | how do you mod ctrl+alt+enter to ctrl+alt+c (as in screen) ? |
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| 09:08.48 | micols | with xmodmap |
| 09:09.04 | micols | jeeves: windows support? |
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| 09:09.26 | jeeves | micols, I'm running Ubuntu on the laptop with the CD-ROMdrive though. :-( |
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| 09:09.57 | micols | syslinux can do stuff |
| 09:10.09 | micols | i think it has a chain loader or such |
| 09:10.47 | arvind_khadri | hi , anybody here who runs doom3 on debian ?? |
| 09:10.48 | jeeves | micols, any ideas? |
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| 09:11.24 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 09:11.29 | JPT | arvind_khadri: take a look at wine and their appdb (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2887&iTestingId=15371) |
| 09:11.37 | JohnFlux | how do I use apt-get to download a particular package? |
| 09:11.50 | JohnFlux | just to download, not install |
| 09:11.54 | ham5 | apt-get install pkg |
| 09:11.56 | nkuttler | JohnFlux: man apt-get |
| 09:12.19 | arvind_khadri | JPT, actually there is source for linux ...but it says that i must use some patches from the doom cd... which i dont have... |
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| 09:12.52 | JohnFlux | nkuttler: doesn't help. it says to use "-d" but I can't get it to work |
| 09:13.06 | nkuttler | JohnFlux: why not? |
| 09:13.39 | JPT | arvind_khadri: well if you haven't got the cd, things will get pretty difficult;) |
| 09:13.58 | arvind_khadri | JPT, any way to hack :) you know of... |
| 09:14.33 | khaleel5000 | booiiing: with any player, kaffeine, xine, etc |
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| 09:15.15 | JPT | arvind_khadri: as i don't even own doom, i cannot help you with that, sorry |
| 09:15.31 | WormFood | ugh! I can't for the life of me remember the name of the command that makes the "configure" file, that you almost always need after you download something from svn...anyone remember off-hand what that command is? |
| 09:16.28 | WormFood | autoconf...right? |
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| 09:17.06 | WormFood | yeah, thats it...thanks for the help guys |
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| 09:20.56 | JohnFlux | nkuttler: If I do: apt-get install -d mypackage then it tries to install the dependencies as well |
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| 09:21.07 | JohnFlux | nkuttler: instead of downloading the package |
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| 09:21.37 | JohnFlux | nkuttler: I have a package with funny dependencies, so trying to install it removes most of the other packages on my system :-D |
| 09:21.51 | JohnFlux | nkuttler: so I was thinking to download the package, then force an install |
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| 09:22.41 | arvind_khadri | JPT, thanks anyways :) |
| 09:22.43 | nkuttler | !tell JohnFlux about pdo |
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| 09:23.28 | JohnFlux | nkuttler: hmm, they really should fix that :-/ |
| 09:23.32 | JPT | no problem :) |
| 09:24.30 | JohnFlux | is it possible to tell apt-get to install something and ignore dependencies? |
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| 09:36.08 | SparFux | Hello all. How can I avoid this error: http://pastebin.com/d61f2d9e ? It is gone when defining export LC_ALL=whatever, but I read postings that this isn't recommended. |
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| 09:36.45 | nkuttler | SparFux: dpkg-reconfigure locales. nothing wrong with setting LC vars |
| 09:36.52 | firespeaker | how do I explicitly open a udp port? |
| 09:37.39 | SparFux | nkuttler: well, dpkg-reconfigure did not help. Only setting the env variable. Intuitively I feel the error should not be there when LC_ not set. Don't you think? |
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| 09:38.11 | nkuttler | SparFux: pastebin the whole error |
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| 09:39.41 | nkuttler | SparFux: of course, in dpkg-reconfigre you have to select the locales you use |
| 09:39.52 | SparFux | I do. |
| 09:40.18 | SparFux | whole thing: http://pastebin.com/m47dca0da |
| 09:41.25 | SparFux | The error really only occurs for LC_MESSAGES and LC_ALL btw. |
| 09:41.28 | SparFux | I think it is a bug. |
| 09:41.36 | SparFux | no LC_* are set. |
| 09:41.38 | dhblewis | hi does anyone know where the incron table is in debian? i do incrontab -e but it opens a tmp file |
| 09:41.48 | nkuttler | SparFux: env | grep -E '^L[AC]' |
| 09:42.28 | SparFux | ups! They ARE set: http://pastebin.com/d7584f3aa |
| 09:42.32 | SparFux | Hold on, I try without. |
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| 09:43.09 | SparFux | Aha. Error is gone. I have to find out where LANG=C is set. |
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| 09:44.54 | booiiing | khaleel5000, try mplayer, it has various output-options |
| 09:44.59 | xshadowfire | guhhhh |
| 09:45.05 | booiiing | play around with the output-plugins of it a bit |
| 09:45.33 | booiiing | if you don't use the binary-drivers, you might want to avoid opengl-output and the like |
| 09:45.41 | booiiing | try xvideo or x11 |
| 09:46.15 | xshadowfire | someone want to help me with apache and name based virtual hosts? >: |
| 09:46.23 | SparFux | Yes, thx. The LANG=C was the problem of course. Left over from some old old configuration in my $HOME. |
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| 09:47.39 | nkuttler | xshadowfire: #apache maybe? |
| 09:47.46 | xshadowfire | right |
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| 09:52.45 | jeeves | anyone? how can I copy a bootable CD to a USB stick and make it bootable? |
| 09:52.45 | firespeaker | does anyone know how to check what tcp and udp ports are open? |
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| 09:53.08 | JPT | firespeaker: check out nmap (pcs on the network) or netstat -tulpen (own pc) |
| 09:53.15 | nkuttler | firespeaker: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 09:53.39 | firespeaker | JPT, nkuttler: thanks |
| 09:54.33 | jeeves | anyone? how can I copy a bootable CD to a USB stick and make it bootable? |
| 09:55.20 | cahoot | http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb |
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| 09:55.59 | firespeaker | now how do I explicitly open a given udp port? I tried it with iptables, but it's not showing up in netstat |
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| 09:56.08 | nkuttler | jeeves: what are you trying to do anyway? |
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| 09:56.33 | nkuttler | firespeaker: well, how did you close it in the first place? |
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| 09:56.55 | firespeaker | nkuttler: uhh, debian's default firewalling stuff presumably has it closed? |
| 09:57.17 | jeeves | nkuttler, I'm trying to make a dual boot netbook (ie. laptop with no CD-ROM). the linux part is EASY, but I'm tyring to make a bootable USB stick wihth my USB stick so I can install windwos first (I need windows for work) |
| 09:57.20 | nkuttler | debian has a default firewall? |
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| 09:57.47 | firespeaker | nkuttler: I'm not sure.. |
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| 09:57.51 | eshaase | my system becomes super-slow and not responsive when i'm copying a large file in the background, i'm using lvm2 and my gnome panel system monitor shows my cpu at 100% usage for IOWait, is this type of behavior expected? |
| 09:58.00 | nkuttler | firespeaker: i don't think so |
| 09:58.03 | firespeaker | nkuttler: it does something to close a lot of ports, right? |
| 09:58.32 | cahoot | firespeaker: does lsof -i show anything 'listening' on the port? |
| 09:59.16 | jeeves | nkuttler, this has to be a common problem. isn't there a way to use the 'dd' command to make a 1:1 copy to another drive? |
| 09:59.39 | nkuttler | jeeves: sure, but i doubt a dd'd cd will do you any good |
| 10:00.00 | xingu | eshaase: if you're using ext3 much of this will be fixed in 2.6.30 |
| 10:00.07 | anomalizer | does debian repository support multiple versions of a same package? |
| 10:00.08 | firespeaker | cahoot: it doesn't look that way |
| 10:00.12 | nkuttler | jeeves: you should google someting like how to install windows from usb... |
| 10:00.15 | jeeves | nkuttler, I tried copy, but it won't work. there has to be SOMETHING that makes a 1:1 copy (including the boot info) |
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| 10:00.54 | nkuttler | anomalizer: hm, what do you mean? |
| 10:01.29 | nkuttler | anomalizer: there's some foo1/foo2 packages and the different releases |
| 10:01.31 | eshaase | xingu: so this is a known issue? |
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| 10:02.01 | anomalizer | I need to have say 20 versions of a package in one repository |
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| 10:02.42 | nkuttler | anomalizer: afaik, no. you should probably read the policy. or do foo1-20 |
| 10:02.49 | xingu | eshaase: yes, there was a major dung flinging contest about io latencies in quite recent history; mounting ext3 with -o data=writeback will help *some* but there's many other pieces to the puzzle too. |
| 10:03.09 | xingu | eshaase: linus himself finally arced up about it; the peformance even on ssd's is shocking. |
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| 10:03.29 | eshaase | xingu: so this isn't lvm-related? |
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| 10:03.38 | jeeves | how do I write a ISO file to a USB stick (instead of burning it to a CD)? |
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| 10:03.39 | xingu | eshaase: more than likely not |
| 10:03.47 | eshaase | arced? |
| 10:04.02 | anomalizer | nkuttler: I do not want these versions to co-exist on the same machine |
| 10:04.47 | eshaase | xingu: any idea what level of the kernel this was introduced in? |
| 10:05.00 | nkuttler | anomalizer: well, if you build your own mirror anyway you could probably define different releases |
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| 10:05.40 | xingu | eshaase: it's been there since the dawn of time |
| 10:05.51 | booiiing | ok, looks like i want polipo |
| 10:05.57 | xingu | eshaase: ext3's interactions between mm and block layer antagonise it. |
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| 10:06.22 | xingu | eshaase: as I said, mount with data=writeback will mitigate some of the worst of it... |
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| 10:06.41 | nkuttler | jeeves: really, did you even try to google? this isn't the right place to ask |
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| 10:06.48 | xingu | eshaase: gimme a few, I'll fish up a relevant link for the whole thread. |
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| 10:07.13 | dhblewis | how do i get out of a man in terminal |
| 10:07.19 | nkuttler | dhblewis: q |
| 10:07.24 | xingu | eshaase: http://lwn.net/Articles/328363/ |
| 10:07.28 | nkuttler | dhblewis: that is, with the default pager |
| 10:07.32 | anomalizer | nkuttler: i'm trying not to have the notion of stable, testing etc. etc. in my mirror; just put in many versions of many packages. Looks like I don't have a way out (sigh) |
| 10:07.45 | dhblewis | nkuttler thank you! |
| 10:08.08 | eshaase | xingu: ok, thanks, the reason why i ask is because i didn't notice this type of behavior on my older systems |
| 10:08.14 | cantido | anomalizer: put all the packages into the right layout and then use the script thing that generates the packages.gz and stuff for you.. |
| 10:08.16 | jeeves | nkuttler, yes, the FIRST place I look is google |
| 10:08.53 | nkuttler | jeeves: well, the first result i got includes what you ask |
| 10:09.35 | jeeves | nkuttler, care to share the URL? |
| 10:10.01 | xingu | eshaase: it manifests differently with each release and on each different io architecture; the hot-spot moves around; some releases just have frankly crap throughput, some give you visible signs like your desktop going for a long snooze |
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| 10:10.31 | xingu | eshaase: but it's all fundamentally the same problem; fortunately someone got pissed enough about it to chuck their toys out of the pram and fix it... |
| 10:11.40 | nkuttler | jeeves: actually, no, it describes how to install windows to an usb driver, not how to copy the windows installer to an usb drive... why again are you asking in #debian? |
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| 10:13.07 | jeeves | nkuttler, because the only system I have access to with a CD-ROM has Debian installed on it, and I'm trying to make a dual boot netbook |
| 10:13.49 | cantido | jeeves: I think installing windows from usb is going to be a little more complex than dd'ing the iso to a usb stick |
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| 10:14.05 | nkuttler | dd'ing a cd to hd won't to any good anyway |
| 10:14.09 | cantido | jeeves: unless said stick has a cdrom emulator bit.. |
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| 10:15.09 | firespeaker | I seem to remember like 8 years ago there being a config file of some sort where each line listed a port that was open |
| 10:15.12 | jeeves | cantido, well, all I'd like to do is get the bootable CD to work on this USB stick. once that's done, then I can move forward with the Linux install and be happy! LOL |
| 10:15.59 | cantido | jeeves: there are pages on the debian wiki on how to install debian on a lot of netbooks, including links to images that you can put on your usb stick |
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| 10:16.38 | jeeves | cantido, the linux install is simple. it's getting a bootable copy of XP onto this dumb USB stick that's the pain |
| 10:17.16 | anomalizer | cantido: I tried google but cant seem to find any funky repo management tools/scripts. Do people usually build their own? |
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| 10:17.27 | cantido | jeeves: well, thats not our problem is it. If if remember correctly microsoft's install media ranges from cd to dvd. |
| 10:17.39 | cantido | anomalizer: dpkg-scanpackages and dpkg-scansources iirc |
| 10:17.54 | jeeves | cantido, lol. but isn't there a way to just do a 1:1 copy to another media? |
| 10:18.38 | cantido | jeeves: booting cd's is just a little bit different to booting usb media |
| 10:18.41 | jeeves | cantido, because if one can copy everything (including the bootable parts), then we'd be set |
| 10:18.46 | tones | guys, ive found a few slightly anbiguous answers on google but just for confirmation, is it possible to use lvm partitions on windows? |
| 10:18.52 | cahoot | firespeaker: as I understand it no ports are 'closed' by default in debian, start an app that 'listens' on the port and see |
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| 10:19.16 | cantido | jeeves: no, the boot process is different for usb media, you can't expect the loader on a cd to magically just work when its copied to a cd |
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| 10:19.23 | cantido | jeeves: copied to a usb stick i mean |
| 10:19.23 | anomalizer | cantido: I was hoping for a web tool that lets users upload their package et. al. Today, I just do crons + dpkg-scanpackages |
| 10:19.52 | jeeves | cantido, hummm |
| 10:20.09 | cantido | anomalizer: you could write the tool for uploading in about an hour.. its just got to go in the right directory for your cron script hasn't it |
| 10:20.15 | jeeves | cantido, even if I can get it booted to DOS, then start the setup from the I386folder |
| 10:20.45 | eshaase | xingu: great link! thanks! |
| 10:20.49 | cantido | jeeves: does dos have usb drivers so that it can mount that media once its booted? |
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| 10:21.13 | tones | sorry to ask again, but is it possible to use lvm partitions on windows? |
| 10:21.33 | jeeves | cantido, well, the netbook has it's thing to boot the USB |
| 10:22.16 | cantido | jeeves: DOS booting from a CD generally works with a floppy disk image on the disk, and then the bios loads DOS for that floppy disk using some emulation and then dos loads up an ide driver and other cd stuff.. |
| 10:22.59 | jeeves | cantido, all I know is that it's 3:30am, and I'm getting annoyed! LOL |
| 10:23.12 | cantido | jeeves: It's isn't just magically going to support your usb stick, just like copying a bootable cd to a usb stick isn't just going to work. |
| 10:23.35 | cantido | jeeves: Well, it's not Debian's fault Microsoft have limited install media.. |
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| 10:23.40 | jeeves | cantido, lol |
| 10:23.56 | jeeves | cantido, I know. I figured this was going to be a pain in my behind |
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| 10:24.38 | cantido | jeeves: get a usb cdrom. problem solved |
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| 10:25.37 | jeeves | cantido, lol. kinda hard when you're vacationing in the "sticks" |
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| 10:26.00 | valdyn | tones: no |
| 10:26.42 | jeeves | cantido, http://www.videojug.com/webvideo/how-to-install-windows-xp-on-a-netbook-via-usb |
| 10:27.06 | tones | valdyn: not at all? some sites talked about "dynamic disks" in mmc |
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| 10:28.10 | valdyn | tones: lvm has no partitions |
| 10:28.12 | cantido | jeeves: um, do it then... |
| 10:28.36 | jeeves | cantido, watching it |
| 10:28.38 | valdyn | tones: if you mean what I think you mean then the answer is no, but you need to get your terminology right for precise answers |
| 10:28.53 | tones | valdyn: sorry, im new to the concept.. thanks anyway |
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| 10:29.26 | valdyn | tones: for instance, i believe you mean "logical volume" when you said "partition" |
| 10:29.38 | tones | valdyn: most likely |
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| 10:30.56 | valdyn | tones: dynamic disks is something like lvm, but its not compatible |
| 10:31.01 | cantido | jeeves: see, it needs extra tools to happen. *sigh* |
| 10:31.10 | cantido | goes to meet the wife. |
| 10:31.48 | jeeves | cantido, I don't really care right now, I just want it to boot and install XP |
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| 10:34.56 | buu | Am I going insane: http://erxz.com/pb/18389, what would cause ./binary to return "no such file" ? |
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| 10:35.47 | valdyn | buu: that URL does not work |
| 10:36.05 | buu | Works for me.. |
| 10:36.20 | buu | And, other people.. |
| 10:36.50 | valdyn | buu: rename that file to bb3 |
| 10:37.18 | buu | Same error |
| 10:37.32 | buu | I'm guessing that executable is the wrong "type" |
| 10:37.36 | buu | But how do I determine that type? |
| 10:37.46 | valdyn | buu: what type are you talking of? |
| 10:37.52 | valdyn | buu: theres no "type" |
| 10:38.10 | buu | as in |
| 10:38.25 | buu | ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386 |
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| 10:38.35 | buu | I'm just guessing wildly here. |
| 10:38.38 | valdyn | buu: did renaming change anything? |
| 10:38.54 | buu | No. |
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| 10:39.34 | valdyn | buu: "strace -eopen bb3.exe" |
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| 10:39.52 | buu | buu@hv:~$ strace -eopen ./bb3 |
| 10:39.52 | buu | strace: exec: No such file or directory |
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| 10:40.32 | buu | Heh, my ls says it is ELF 64-Bit, I guess that's my problem. |
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| 10:40.43 | valdyn | buu: are you using a custom kernel? |
| 10:40.50 | buu | Pretty sure I'm not |
| 10:40.52 | mischief | buu, try `file ./bb3` |
| 10:40.58 | valdyn | buu: uname -r |
| 10:40.58 | buu | mischief: It's in the paste.. |
| 10:41.06 | buu | 2.6.18-6-amd64 |
| 10:41.25 | valdyn | buu: what does "ldd bb3.exe" give? |
| 10:41.37 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.37 | mischief | ancient kernel D: |
| 10:41.39 | buu | Haha |
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| 10:42.12 | valdyn | buu: can you give me that file? |
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| 10:42.13 | buu | I thought 64bit kernels were backwards compatible with 32bit executables |
| 10:42.21 | buu | valdyn: http://erxz.com/tmp/bb3.exe |
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| 10:43.40 | valdyn | buu: it is a dynamic executable |
| 10:44.05 | valdyn | buu: you somehow miss something required to run 32-bit executables |
| 10:44.21 | buu | valdyn: How odd. |
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| 10:44.45 | valdyn | buu: what is this? its perl embedded into an executable |
| 10:44.57 | buu | It's a PAR packed perl program. |
| 10:45.11 | valdyn | buu: so you miss par? |
| 10:45.12 | buu | And yes, it's essentially a perl program + libraries + perl executable. |
| 10:45.31 | buu | valdyn: It should be a regular ol' executable at this point. |
| 10:45.46 | valdyn | buu: its not, it needs some 32-bit perl stuff installed |
| 10:46.11 | valdyn | buu: it runs for me, but aborts with an error anyway |
| 10:46.20 | buu | valdyn: Well, yeah, it's got some bugs in it |
| 10:46.27 | buu | Which I shall track down someday |
| 10:46.32 | buu | But that other box can't even execute it |
| 10:46.52 | valdyn | buu: you should install ia32-libs |
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| 10:47.08 | ham5 | want my ia32 libs back |
| 10:47.38 | buu | That pulls in python? |
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| 10:47.53 | valdyn | buu: why would it? |
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| 10:48.47 | buu | valdyn: No idea, but it did. |
| 10:49.01 | valdyn | buu: ok |
| 10:49.02 | buu | Setting up python2.5 (2.5.2-15) ... |
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| 10:50.20 | buu | execve("/tmp/par-buu/cache-3eba4951cd6e44d31a8d9165addb8f8080819d62/bb3", [0xffffffffffea0a4a], [/* 15 vars */]) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 10:50.26 | buu | Well, at least it runs now. |
| 10:50.42 | stas | hi, does anybody know if djbndns package has ipv6 and srv patches already applied? |
| 10:51.06 | valdyn | stas: no such package in debian |
| 10:51.48 | stas | dbndns sorry |
| 10:52.04 | buu | Why would I get a -1 EACCES when I try to execve a file I own |
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| 10:52.23 | valdyn | buu: because you set your /tmp noexec |
| 10:53.51 | buu | ! |
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| 10:54.49 | buu | valdyn: Awesome. Progress has been made. |
| 10:55.14 | buu | That's an amusing error situation though. |
| 10:55.21 | buu | Oh well. Sleep time. |
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| 11:40.37 | l403 | hello, guys. Need libperl5.8 but have 5.1 installed : "libperl5.8: Depends: perl-base (=5.8.8-11.1+lenny1) but 5.10.0-19 is to be installed" O_o |
| 11:40.46 | l403 | I dont get it |
| 11:41.39 | l403 | I take is they cant be installed simultaneously |
| 11:42.17 | l403 | but some things installed depend on 5.1 |
| 11:42.34 | l403 | what do I do? |
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| 11:43.00 | joeytwiddle | you might have to upgrade a lot of stuff then |
| 11:43.09 | joeytwiddle | aptitude is good at fixing that sort of thing |
| 11:43.45 | joeytwiddle | alternatively, leave your system as it is, and install a separate copy of perl 5.8 in /usr/local/ |
| 11:44.23 | l403 | ok, I'll try aptitude now |
| 11:44.32 | l403 | thanks for now |
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| 11:45.52 | fxiny | hmmm , it seems broken even here |
| 11:45.57 | fxiny | same errors |
| 11:48.01 | l403 | thats regarding what? |
| 11:48.23 | fxiny | your own error . same |
| 11:48.45 | fxiny | libperl5.8: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.8-11.1+lenny1) but 5.10.0-19 is installed |
| 11:48.48 | l403 | oh |
| 11:48.56 | l403 | I am doing update now |
| 11:49.50 | l403 | I need the perl 5.8 for libpurple so you know |
| 11:49.59 | The_B_A | hi all i want to migrate to unstable but want to keep kde 3.5 |
| 11:50.04 | The_B_A | any suggestion s? |
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| 11:50.29 | l403 | this hickup might even cause pidgin to be held back in the repository with a year! old version |
| 11:51.05 | l403 | The_B_A, in synaptic I think you can set the packege not to be upgraded |
| 11:51.34 | The_B_A | lets see what it will tell ... never tried it :P |
| 11:52.07 | dhblewis | hi does anyone know where the incron table is in debian? i do incrontab -e but it opens a tmp file |
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| 11:57.25 | The_B_A | dhblewis, edit as you want and close ... after that it will install itself |
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| 12:14.05 | lucas_ | is there a way to add program to a menu manually |
| 12:14.17 | lucas_ | i mean i installed eclipse from source as tar.gz |
| 12:14.24 | lucas_ | and extract it to my home folder |
| 12:14.31 | lucas_ | not i want it to appear in my menu |
| 12:14.39 | lucas_ | how can i do that |
| 12:14.41 | Dassu | yes alacarte |
| 12:15.54 | lucas_ | without alacarte |
| 12:15.55 | lucas_ | :d |
| 12:16.37 | The_B_A | lucas_, for kde there is kmenuedit, for gnome ... no idea |
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| 12:21.03 | zophy | how can i make my server available as a proxy for ip addresses that only originate from Iran ? |
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| 12:22.29 | l403 | you set up a firewall builder |
| 12:22.34 | l403 | *firewall |
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| 12:22.43 | l403 | ..with firewall builder for example |
| 12:23.19 | l403 | check for the Iranian IP ranges |
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| 12:29.33 | toxic | hello, I have a problem with may soft-RAID5 (mdadm). I have to set-faulty a drive that's not connected anymore, and identified by it's UUID in mdadm.conf. My problem is to identify which UUID is missing and find the mdadm command accepting UUID... |
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| 12:31.44 | JohnFlux | toxic: you want to reconnect the old drive or something? |
| 12:32.01 | JohnFlux | toxic: why do you want to mark it as faulty? |
| 12:32.07 | toxic | no, the old drive is by seagate for reparation JohnDoh |
| 12:32.23 | toxic | JohnFlux, sorry |
| 12:32.40 | JohnFlux | so why do you want to mark it as faulty? |
| 12:33.04 | toxic | because it's not connected, and I would like to have my RAID working on the remaining drives... |
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| 12:33.14 | toxic | waiting for the new disk... |
| 12:33.38 | toxic | My array normaly have 4 disks... |
| 12:34.13 | toxic | and I want it to run with the 3 remaining, because in a week or so, i'll be getting my 4th disk back and could get mdadm to rebuild the array |
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| 12:34.33 | toxic | in the mean-time, i need the datas... |
| 12:35.20 | toxic | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.37 | toxic | so i wouldn't have to rebuild if i don't change the content... |
| 12:35.51 | toxic | any idea JohnFlux ? |
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| 12:36.48 | JohnFlux | toxic: I don't really understand. it should just run as normal with just 3 |
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| 12:37.26 | toxic | nox it just says : md0 : inactive sdb1[0](S) sdd1[3](S) sdc1[2](S) |
| 12:37.32 | toxic | *now |
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| 12:39.03 | JohnFlux | toxic: mdadm /dev/md0 --run ? |
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| 12:39.35 | JohnFlux | toxic: also look at --readonly |
| 12:39.55 | JohnFlux | toxic: also look at the output of --detail |
| 12:40.04 | toxic | i'll give it a shot.. |
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| 12:40.35 | toxic | details says : mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not appear to be active. |
| 12:41.06 | toxic | even after a mdadm --run |
| 12:41.48 | The_B_A | toxic, the man page specifies that the correct option is: |
| 12:41.52 | The_B_A | -r, --remove |
| 12:41.53 | The_B_A | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:42.14 | JohnFlux | The_B_A: I don't think he should have to remove the device |
| 12:42.44 | toxic | The_B_A, yes, but for this I have to use an UUID because the device can not be identified with /dev/sdX (it's unplugged...) |
| 12:43.37 | The_B_A | toxic, one way i can think of is manually construct correct conf file and then start the array in degraded mode |
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| 12:43.49 | The_B_A | though i have no idea if it will work as expected |
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| 12:44.57 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 12:45.22 | toxic | The_B_A, how to start in degraded mode ? |
| 12:45.43 | arvind_khadri | hi, i have noticed that i dont get notifications in the form of pop-up on orkut, using iceweasel.... i do get it in other OS's... |
| 12:46.12 | arvind_khadri | and iirc i was getting it before in debian too, not sure though.... |
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| 12:48.19 | arvind_khadri | any ideas?? |
| 12:49.10 | The_B_A | mdadm --assemble --scan |
| 12:49.24 | toxic | JohnFlux, I have an idea, the manual of mdadm says i can use --fail option with the word "detached" to set faulty any detached drive... |
| 12:49.35 | toxic | JohnFlux, shall I try it ? |
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| 12:49.55 | Kajihara | Hi! I can't isntall libgtkmm-2.4-dev, apt-get write: libgtkmm-2.4-dev: Depends: libatk1.0-dev (>= 1.9.0) but it is not going to be installed etc. What can I do? |
| 12:50.25 | sigius | Question: If I have a debian filesystem (so not a debian system) how would I find which packages are installed. i.ow. where does 'dpkg --list' look to find the installed packages |
| 12:51.36 | Kajihara | I have stable release only |
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| 12:52.25 | Shtl | Any Video cutter applications for lenny?? |
| 12:52.38 | wooj | Anyone know if debian supports the paulsbo intel gma 500 graphics? |
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| 12:58.17 | mesa_booger | sigius: to get a list of installed packages - ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -f1 -d. | cut -f6 -d/ |
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| 12:59.33 | mesa_booger | sigius: this may have errors, but the idea is ok |
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| 13:01.03 | mesa_booger | improved version - ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | sed -e "s/\.list//" | cut -f6 -d/ |
| 13:01.41 | sigius | mesa_booger, great, thanks, exactly what I was looking for. |
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| 13:04.35 | nsadmin | (cd /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ; ls *.list | sed -e "s/\.list//") |
| 13:05.46 | mesa_booger | yup |
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| 13:06.43 | toxic | what is the option to have mdadm discover and start any raid-array if you lost the config-file ? |
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| 13:10.34 | l403 | zophy, you were reading this? http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/FAgW91e6k5A/Man-Attacked-In-Ohio-For-Providing-Iran-Proxies |
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| 13:16.05 | toxic | JohnFlux, I have found the solution. I had to re-assemble the drive. I added the --run option to have mdadm start it anyway even if a drive was missing... |
| 13:16.26 | toxic | after that, the array was active (he said me with 3 drives out of 4) |
| 13:16.36 | toxic | and I marked it readonly... ;) |
| 13:16.46 | toxic | thank you for your help ! |
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| 13:20.43 | dustybin | is there a official debian installer designed for a usb stick ? |
| 13:20.48 | valdyn | toxic: what does discover have to do with it? |
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| 13:21.16 | Kevin` | how do I make aptitude have super cow powers? |
| 13:21.44 | dustybin | Kevin`: aptitude install moo |
| 13:21.46 | paule118 | +tncPLlfJ 951 ? |
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| 13:22.03 | wooj | what do super cow powers do for aptitude? |
| 13:22.28 | paule118 | PLlfJ |
| 13:22.28 | dustybin | aptitude moo |
| 13:22.30 | dustybin | hahaha |
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| 13:23.26 | rudi_s | -v |
| 13:23.40 | Kevin` | dustybin: no such package, and aptitude moo just says there are no easter eggs :( |
| 13:23.45 | dustybin | haha |
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| 13:24.03 | rudi_s | Kevin`: Try it with -v |
| 13:24.04 | dustybin | i cannot believe there is no debian usb image |
| 13:24.23 | dustybin | burning .isos to cd/dvd is dated |
| 13:24.27 | dustybin | waste of dics |
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| 13:24.29 | dustybin | discs |
| 13:24.46 | dustybin | everything should be done using usb sticks |
| 13:25.00 | Kevin` | rudi_s: haha |
| 13:25.05 | dustybin | debian needs to think green |
| 13:25.15 | mischief | dustybin, no better time to contribute to the debian project :) |
| 13:25.17 | Kevin` | rudi_s: that's awesome |
| 13:25.25 | dustybin | mischief: aye ok |
| 13:25.45 | rudi_s | Kevin`: It is ;-) |
| 13:26.03 | octoserver | I saw Patric on SYstem say that the power managment/saving is better in windows than in Linux. I not buying it, what do you guys thing? There must have been something not set right on the netbook they were testing? |
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| 13:27.18 | wooj | octoserver, its quite possible it is. Windows devs have access to more info on the hardware. |
| 13:27.47 | octoserver | hmmm, good point. Makes sense |
| 13:28.11 | Kevin` | octoserver: too many variables, and not enough real testing with optimization in place. test it for yourself in your situation if you care |
| 13:28.33 | octoserver | anyone know what netboooks are supported best with Linux? the HP's perhaps? |
| 13:28.50 | wooj | octoserver, system76, dell, and HP all sell netbooks with Linux |
| 13:29.31 | octoserver | oh yea, i guess one that has linux on it already may have a better chance to have driver issues figure out? |
| 13:29.35 | octoserver | cool |
| 13:29.39 | wooj | I dont know what HP ships, but dell and system76 ship Ubuntu. |
| 13:29.55 | Kevin` | octoserver: they are supported well enough, and have enough information available, that I personally would base my decision on quality (keyboard?) first then look up support for particular models |
| 13:30.03 | cantido | octoserver: all atom netbooks are roughly the same |
| 13:30.14 | toxic | valdyn, i don't understand your question |
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| 13:30.24 | Kevin` | octoserver: you can find very detailed support information for them |
| 13:30.33 | wooj | cantido, I like my 12" though, just for screensize and such. |
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| 13:31.25 | cantido | wooj: if its atom though, its going to have the same intel chipset and some wired/wifi that work in recentish kernel.. |
| 13:31.34 | wooj | cantido, oh, yeah, no for sure |
| 13:31.39 | octoserver | yea, that is one reason I havent bought one yet . the 1024 * 600 screen is a no go for me |
| 13:31.52 | wooj | its a dell mini 12, atom 1.6ghz, etc bla. 1280x800 screen tho :) |
| 13:31.55 | mischief | strokes his eee pc |
| 13:32.17 | octoserver | ive been seeing 12" laptops with really good prices lately too, and they already have dual cores ;) |
| 13:32.49 | cantido | writes on most of the netbook SSDs == total lockup.. so thats something to watch out for |
| 13:32.51 | wooj | octoserver, no doubt. I paid about 379 for my netbook tho, I'l guessing a dual core would run me more |
| 13:33.02 | prophet | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.22 | wooj | prophet, oh? owch. |
| 13:33.24 | prophet | it's amazing |
| 13:33.41 | wooj | prophet, what is, your mini 12? |
| 13:33.54 | prophet | wooj, i'm satisfied. it's amazing how you don't need a powerful cpu or more than 1024MB of ram to do every thing you otherwise do |
| 13:34.11 | prophet | wooj, nah, one of the first ones |
| 13:34.30 | wooj | prophet, ohhh gotcha |
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| 13:34.41 | cantido | That new nvidia platform should be pretty kick ass |
| 13:34.53 | wooj | prophet, yep, quite true. One thing that confuses me is, dell had the Mini 12 with Ubuntu or Vista |
| 13:35.00 | wooj | Vista.. on an Atom CPU with 1gb ram |
| 13:35.06 | wooj | what kind of crack are they on? |
| 13:35.24 | cantido | wooj: crack bought with oem agreement money |
| 13:35.24 | prophet | the good kind ;) |
| 13:35.29 | mischief | i have a friend who put win7 on his eee pc, but he put a 2GB mem stick in it |
| 13:35.33 | mischief | he says it runs nicely |
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| 13:36.11 | wooj | mischief, my eeepc is a 701. I dont think I want to try win7 on it |
| 13:36.12 | prophet | eh |
| 13:36.20 | wooj | though I have it perma-set to 900mhz at least. |
| 13:36.23 | mischief | haha wooj :) |
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| 13:36.32 | mischief | i have a 1000, he has a 1000HE |
| 13:36.39 | cantido | wooj: is it harddisk or ssd? |
| 13:36.39 | Kevin` | you need to have a fast ssd or a hard drive to run windows on those things |
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| 13:37.17 | mischief | i dual boot windows XP and debian on my eee pc, and tbh XP is much faster than debian :x |
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| 13:37.32 | prophet | mischief, lies |
| 13:37.32 | wooj | cantido, my eeepc? ssd |
| 13:37.35 | prophet | is that possible?? |
| 13:37.39 | cantido | *cough* bollocks |
| 13:37.43 | mischief | prophet, i swear it |
| 13:38.11 | prophet | how did you measure it? |
| 13:38.27 | cantido | wooj: ah, windows is no go then.. ;) |
| 13:38.37 | wooj | my eeepc on debian is snappier than my roommates athlon x2 on vista. |
| 13:38.42 | mischief | it's not a matter of measuring it prophet |
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| 13:38.49 | mischief | it's simply speedier, more responsive |
| 13:38.55 | wooj | cantido, yeah, unless I installed it on my 500gb external, but thats just a pain |
| 13:39.01 | prophet | mischief, what wm onb debian |
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| 13:39.12 | mischief | xfwm :x |
| 13:39.23 | prophet | that's one of the tiny ones isnt it |
| 13:39.30 | cantido | is ebay'ing a ZIF harddisk.. ssd is shit |
| 13:39.49 | mischief | i was under the impression that xfce4/xfwm would be faster than gnome/metacity but it isn't really -.- |
| 13:40.03 | wooj | I am on debian w/ lxde and 1gb ram and its snappy as hell. Only lags on webpages with tonnes of scripts in Firefox |
| 13:40.08 | mischief | sometimes i use scrotwm when i don't care about the battery monitor or wicd plugins |
| 13:40.29 | wooj | mischief, I'd suggest lxde for a lightweight wm with tray icons |
| 13:40.47 | mischief | but boot is a little slow, it sits around twiddling it's thumbs waiting for the disk or something |
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| 13:41.04 | wooj | yeah there, I agree. This thing takes like 50 seconds to boot |
| 13:41.05 | cantido | kde4 is fine on a 1.6ghz atom, just got to stop stuff writing to disk |
| 13:41.37 | wooj | Intel's mobilin2 has a stupidly fast boot time |
| 13:41.42 | wooj | like 12 seconds or some such |
| 13:41.54 | wooj | thats to full desktop :S |
| 13:41.58 | mischief | hmm, is there any way to log the entire boot process? |
| 13:42.05 | prophet | I would *never* run xp on any machine |
| 13:42.10 | prophet | This thing came with XP. |
| 13:42.14 | mischief | i can't seem to find the bit in my logs where it sits for like 30 seconds doing nothing |
| 13:42.17 | prophet | I immediately removed it |
| 13:42.29 | wooj | I have my logs write to /tmp |
| 13:42.36 | wooj | so they vanish into the aether. |
| 13:42.40 | prophet | Doy ou know how ugly |
| 13:42.54 | prophet | and how much screen space the xp theme took on this netbook? |
| 13:42.57 | prophet | IT WAS HUGE |
| 13:42.58 | fxiny | mischief: yes . see /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 13:43.00 | prophet | disgusting |
| 13:43.09 | mischief | i found it in dmesg |
| 13:43.55 | mischief | http://paste.debian.net/39761/ see the parts 'Assuming drive cache: write through'? |
| 13:44.03 | mischief | it hangs there for roughly 30 seconds |
| 13:45.07 | wooj | mischief, yeah, mine does roughly the same |
| 13:45.14 | wooj | at the same spot |
| 13:45.33 | mischief | peculiar |
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| 13:46.21 | cantido | wooj: do you use insserve? |
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| 13:46.54 | wooj | cantido, ummm... I don't know what that is. If its not on debian's eeepc image by default, no, because I know I didnt install it |
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| 13:47.05 | mischief | wooj, going to test a little theory, i think it's the sdcard in the sdcard reader doing that |
| 13:47.23 | wooj | mischief, hmm I'll try booting with it out |
| 13:47.36 | cantido | wooj: concurrent init.. you'll find you boot time goes down a fair bit |
| 13:47.43 | arvind_khadri | hi, i have noticed that i dont get notifications in the form of pop-up on orkut, using iceweasel.... i do get it in other OS's... and iirc i was getting it before in debian too, not sure though.... any ideas |
| 13:47.53 | mischief | ugh come on :\ |
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| 13:48.10 | mischief | my eee pc hung, i am not sure why it does this |
| 13:48.27 | mischief | it acts like it is on, but it doesn't do anything and i have to power cycle it |
| 13:48.33 | cantido | arvind_khadri: maybe changed some script or something, you could check with firebug |
| 13:48.39 | mischief | and it only happens when i boot debian -.- |
| 13:48.43 | wooj | cantido, okay I'll try it |
| 13:48.53 | arvind_khadri | cantido, ok :) |
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| 13:49.40 | cantido | arvind_khadri: sites not "working" is usually the site being broken though.. |
| 13:50.13 | Hamzifer | anyone know how i'd get to a package listed as a new package in ftp-master? (specifically, http://ftp-master.debian.org/new/byobu_2.8-1.html) |
| 13:50.15 | miniBill | I've got a huge problem: openoffice doesn't start anymore. [sorry for writing in a channel that's not appropriate, but there's no one on #openoffice.org] |
| 13:50.26 | arvind_khadri | cantido, it is not "not working" , but just the pop up, i assume that you understood what i meant by the pop up |
| 13:51.10 | cantido | arvind_khadri: like a little bar across the bottom of the page that has messages.. ala facebook |
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| 13:51.26 | mesa_booger | miniBill: try typing "oowriter" in a term, and see what it says, if anything |
| 13:51.41 | dhblewis | for incron does /var/lib/mysql/test/test.MYI IN_NOTIFY php /home/user/dev/email.php look correct as I cannot get it working. |
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| 13:52.37 | arvind_khadri | cantido, no, a small pop up showing the new scrap :) , and orkut uses aspx.... |
| 13:52.58 | cantido | arvind_khadri: asp.net is server-side.. |
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| 13:54.51 | cantido | arvind_khadri: orkut is google though isn't it? surprised they'd use anything like that |
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| 13:55.28 | voxio | cantido: google bought orkut |
| 13:55.38 | cantido | voxio: that'd be why then |
| 13:55.44 | voxio | yep |
| 13:55.52 | arvind_khadri | cantido, :) orkut wasnt a complete google project.... it was later bought by them... if it was theirs they would have coded it in python for sure :) |
| 13:56.11 | cantido | arvind_khadri: or java |
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| 13:56.52 | arvind_khadri | cantido, ya maybe... and they too arent investing any time into orkut as they know that it cant over take facebook |
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| 13:57.14 | no-nuke | Hi all! I'd like to start playing with Debian and Virtual Box. I'm planning to build a debian server on an old HP server from 2004 with an Intel Xeon processor. Inside it I plan to install 2 server virtual machines: 1 - Debian itself with minimal services, just SMTP - SSH - SAMBA 2 - Windows 2003 with HP+Altiris Solution. |
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| 13:57.40 | cantido | arvind_khadri: google just have to own one of everything thats out there, one webmail, one social network, one video sharing site.. |
| 13:57.51 | cantido | arvind_khadri: as long as they have one they're happy |
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| 13:58.06 | dutchfish | no-nuke, does you cpu talks VT? |
| 13:58.19 | cantido | no-nuke: install debian on the metal, run windows in kvm or something |
| 13:58.26 | cantido | dutchfish: not on a machine that old |
| 13:58.26 | no-nuke | Is there any tips on Debian + Vbox from you people. |
| 13:58.47 | no-nuke | dutchfish I don't believe so... It's an old processor |
| 13:58.51 | dutchfish | no-nuke, cantido go then the xen road |
| 13:59.05 | arvind_khadri | cantido, :) but they do some real development on mail side... mailing is really fun... i seriously doubt if any other mails run :) .... and also they support OSS a lot, contribute too... GSoC is nice ... |
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| 13:59.26 | cantido | arvind_khadri: could all be a trap ;) |
| 13:59.47 | no-nuke | sorry dutchfish could not get " xen rod" :) |
| 14:00.04 | cantido | no-nuke: he means use xen to run your vms |
| 14:00.13 | dutchfish | no-nuke, i meant the XEN road, i did that myself on a ML300 and 400 |
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| 14:00.34 | arvind_khadri | cantido, no not really :) if it had been so, they would not have hoisted the projects some 4 times or so... and debian also participates in it :D |
| 14:00.40 | dutchfish | no-nuke, with debian leny its not that hard to run hvm |
| 14:00.41 | no-nuke | I will take a look at this... thanks |
| 14:00.45 | dutchfish | !hvm |
| 14:00.45 | dpkg | it has been said that hvm is used under xen to allow full virtualization of unmodified operating systems such as windows and unmodified kernels, for this to work you need a CPU with intel's VT or amd's pacifica support. xen also needs a special package xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1 (Etch) to work with hvm. Read this for futher information on motherboards http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Motherboards |
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| 14:01.07 | dutchfish | !xen |
| 14:01.07 | dpkg | methinks xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen, although compatibility is maintained for user applications. Xen achieves high performance virtualisation without special hardware support. For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 14:01.32 | cantido | arvind_khadri: you have to worry about a company that says they have to keep search queries linked to ips etc to stop swine flu etc.. |
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| 14:01.45 | chuckkh | hi, having some issues installing on a new Seagate SATA drive; I don't find much info on Google, so I have the feeling it's too new, but entering the shell from the install CD I can partition the HDD with parted and it remembers the changes; but the installation procedure can't find it |
| 14:01.59 | chuckkh | lspci -v also tells me it is detected and which drivers it is using |
| 14:02.12 | cantido | chuckkh: your drive appears in lspci? |
| 14:02.20 | chuckkh | cantido: yessir |
| 14:02.24 | awoodland | does it do the same with another disk in the same machine? |
| 14:02.28 | dutchfish | no-nuke, but ... when your CPU does support VT then i would prefer KVM all the way |
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| 14:02.37 | arvind_khadri | cantido, lol... ip based sessions is better... orkut doesnt use it ... |
| 14:03.07 | chuckkh | awoodland: I tried with an external drive, and again I can see it with parted but the install screen doesn't detect it; I didn't check with lspci |
| 14:03.09 | no-nuke | Nice... Time to start reading about Xen! :) thanx cantido dutchfish dpk! :) BTW AFAIK orkut was a project developed inside google from a developer called ... Orkiu! |
| 14:03.10 | cantido | arvind_khadri: nope, you've miss understood.. anyway OT really |
| 14:03.18 | chuckkh | the laptop is new, I haven't tried with another hdd |
| 14:03.27 | dutchfish | no-nuke, yw |
| 14:03.34 | cantido | chuckkh: you shouldn't be able to see a SATA drive with lspci |
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| 14:03.48 | chuckkh | cantido: well it mentions an ide interface |
| 14:03.54 | arvind_khadri | cantido, no #debian-ot is there :) |
| 14:04.27 | chuckkh | at 00:11.0 it says [IDE mode] and at 00:14.1 it says IDE controller, with ATIIXP_IDE |
| 14:04.28 | arvind_khadri | cantido, i mean isnt there any such channel |
| 14:04.31 | cantido | chuckkh: yes, it should always show your controller whether it has a disk connected or not. you need to check the messages in dmesg |
| 14:05.07 | chuckkh | ah I see; well I saw messages with sda and with sata during booting, but it went too fast |
| 14:05.12 | cantido | chuckkh: also IDE != SATA .. you should have a SATA controller in the lspci list too |
| 14:05.15 | chuckkh | booting, i.e., expert install |
| 14:05.26 | chuckkh | cantido: ok, yes there is a SATA controller too |
| 14:05.40 | chuckkh | which uses ahci; but I will check dmesg |
| 14:05.45 | cantido | chuckkh: ok, so this is in the installer? |
| 14:06.39 | chuckkh | cantido: yeah |
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| 14:07.02 | chuckkh | dmesg shows ata3: SATA link down (and BIOS shows the hdd on ata3) |
| 14:07.34 | cantido | chuckkh: is IDE emulation turned on in the bios? |
| 14:07.37 | chuckkh | if I can actually change the partition to ext2 using parted, though, and parted tells me the model number of the hdd, shouldn't the installer be able to access it too? |
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| 14:07.47 | chuckkh | cantido: I tried it both ways, I think it is on right now |
| 14:08.00 | chuckkh | I can restart and check...? |
| 14:08.27 | cantido | chuckkh: which part of the installer are your getting to before you notice the problem? |
| 14:08.35 | chuckkh | detect drives |
| 14:09.21 | chuckkh | I haven't tried writing any files to the partition, maybe I should see if I can |
| 14:09.34 | cantido | chuckkh: try it without emulation on,.. you can also drop into a shell from the install and see what dmesg etc say |
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| 14:10.11 | cantido | chuckkh: At the detecting disk stage you should just get sda, sdb, hda etc,.. it doesn't matter if there is anything or the drive or not |
| 14:10.16 | chuckkh | ok, I'll turn off the emulation |
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| 14:10.44 | chuckkh | the drive can be mounted at sda, so that means the installer should be able to find it? |
| 14:11.02 | dutchfish | Can someone hint me to good docs for setting up a proxy with debian lenny under IPV6? |
| 14:11.16 | chuckkh | I also ran it with the external drive mounted, /dev/sdb, and that didn't show either |
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| 14:12.13 | adb | chuckkh: which debian installer used ? lenny ? |
| 14:12.19 | cantido | chuckkh: it won't mount sda, once you select a disk it'll go about partitioning it.. |
| 14:12.28 | cantido | chuckkh: how is the external disk connected? |
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| 14:13.04 | chuckkh | adb: squeeze I think |
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| 14:13.16 | chuckkh | cantido: it was connected with USB |
| 14:13.39 | cantido | chuckkh: I'm not sure if usb disks work from the installer |
| 14:13.40 | adb | chuckkh: forget it , try lenny |
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| 14:14.00 | chuckkh | BIOS has two options for 'OnChip SATA Type': Native IDE and IDE->AHCI... |
| 14:14.18 | cantido | chuckkh: which is it now? |
| 14:14.21 | chuckkh | adb: really? will do; but I thought it might be that the drive is new |
| 14:14.32 | chuckkh | cantido: Native IDE |
| 14:14.45 | dutchfish | cantido, chuckkh if you want to use a dusk through usb, mount it with fstab on boot instead of relying on automount or autofs, they play funny tricks (user rights) on you |
| 14:14.49 | chuckkh | adb: because it's more stable? |
| 14:15.05 | cantido | chuckkh: the drive shouldn't matter if it conforms to the standards, thats the idea of standards like SATA |
| 14:15.08 | adb | chuckkh: squeeze installer has a bug in detecting HDD |
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| 14:15.21 | chuckkh | adb: `WOW if that's all it is I'll be thrilled |
| 14:15.30 | cantido | mystery solved ;) |
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| 14:15.53 | chuckkh | cantido: that's a relief; it's a Seagate Momentus, and I found stuff with Google saying it's set up all differently internally |
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| 14:16.00 | cantido | dutchfish: can't see much point installing to a usb harddisk though |
| 14:16.12 | chuckkh | cantido: I haven't yet reached the frustration level of dismantling it, so I can't say what it looks like inside |
| 14:16.23 | cantido | chuckkh: it still has to work by the same rules as every other sata drive |
| 14:16.40 | dutchfish | cantido, me neither, but if so, my point is not to rely on automount autofs |
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| 14:16.45 | cantido | chuckkh: it could be a flash disk, if it has a sata interface it has to talk sata |
| 14:16.52 | chuckkh | cantido: My thought with USB was just to have a running system into which I can insert other CDs, and to compile a driver or two if needed |
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| 14:17.16 | cantido | chuckkh: a spare system? |
| 14:17.37 | chuckkh | dutchfish: would that fstab trick work with an undetected SATA drive perhaps? |
| 14:17.53 | dutchfish | chuckkh, cantido i use it for fast installs with different linux distros |
| 14:18.21 | cantido | chuckkh: just install lenny for now, if you need to you can upgrade to squeeze later |
| 14:18.24 | chuckkh | cantido: well no, I just thought it best to compile any drivers I might need using the system I'll be using them on; this one's 32 bit, the other's 64 |
| 14:18.24 | dutchfish | chuckkh, if your kernel is new enough i bet |
| 14:19.17 | cantido | hasn't needed out-of-tree drivers in a long time |
| 14:19.25 | chuckkh | unfortunately I have no working CD burner at this house; perhaps I can install Lenny with the external HDD |
| 14:19.54 | chuckkh | which is something I'll read up on myself before asking questions |
| 14:19.59 | dutchfish | needs them all the time since prop drivers are no longer in |
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| 14:20.53 | chuckkh | I've needed a few, but they've all entered the tree eventually; now I got a new laptop and am starting all over |
| 14:21.07 | dutchfish | nods |
| 14:21.40 | cantido | mmm I've found stuff just works recently |
| 14:22.53 | dutchfish | the bad news: prop blobs are out of the kernel... the good news; the newer kernels do a much btter job on detecting the right hardware .... so it depends on how new your hardware is |
| 14:23.51 | nsadmin | what's a prop blob |
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| 14:24.34 | adb | dpkg: tell chuckkh about kmuto |
| 14:24.39 | dutchfish | nsadmin, abrivation propreiatery code i.e. blobs (i hope i spelled it right) |
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| 14:25.12 | chuckkh | are these the only files I need for a USB install? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 14:25.25 | nsadmin | so, binary-only? |
| 14:25.37 | dutchfish | nsadmin, yes |
| 14:26.12 | adb | dpkg: tell chuckkh about USB install |
| 14:26.15 | nsadmin | not sure that's bad news as long as a list of unsupported devices is published |
| 14:26.21 | cantido | opendrivers with non-distributable firmware are a pain too :/ |
| 14:26.35 | dutchfish | nods again |
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| 14:26.42 | chuckkh | kmuto is a debian developer? |
| 14:26.47 | adb | yes |
| 14:27.18 | chuckkh | adb: I think I found it- "paste the output of lspci -n"? |
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| 14:28.11 | JyZyXEL | how easy it is to get kde 4 for lenny? |
| 14:28.46 | dutchfish | JyZyXEL, http://kde4.debian.net/ |
| 14:28.48 | nsadmin | JyZyXEL: you could build it yourself, you could backport the packages, you could look for backported packages |
| 14:28.48 | adb | chuckkh: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
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| 14:29.32 | chuckkh | adb: thanks |
| 14:29.36 | adb | np |
| 14:30.08 | chuckkh | I feel like the guy from Cast Away, now I have to write down the output of lspci -n with pen and paper |
| 14:30.13 | chuckkh | life is rough |
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| 14:30.50 | nsadmin | chuckkh: no floppy? |
| 14:31.18 | nsadmin | no usb card/reader? |
| 14:31.26 | adb | heh, no usb stick ? |
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| 14:36.29 | chuckkh | damn, could have used the external hdd |
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| 14:42.35 | chuckkh | well, there are no "unknowns" in the lspci -n output |
| 14:42.48 | valdyn | chuckkh: known does not mean supported |
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| 14:43.01 | valdyn | chuckkh: unknown does not mean unsupported |
| 14:43.41 | chuckkh | well not sure what else to look for; it looks like what I expected |
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| 14:46.11 | EricBlade | working with a box that has absolutely ancient Sarge install. need to uninstall X completely from it. what package to remove? xfree86-common ? |
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| 14:47.32 | nkuttler | q |
| 14:47.42 | izua | um, where do i move a binary (soft link) so i can access it in bash under my user account? say i wrote a script or a c++ program.. |
| 14:48.05 | nkuttler | izua: anywhere in your PATH |
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| 14:48.06 | awoodland | why not just add the directory to your path? |
| 14:49.23 | izua | ~/bin/ ? |
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| 14:51.05 | chuckkh | maybe /usr/local/bin? |
| 14:51.06 | chuckkh | oh my mistake izua's right |
| 14:51.08 | izua | i'm just asking, i'm still new to unix |
| 14:51.08 | nkuttler | izua: i like ~/local/ |
| 14:51.09 | dutchfish | izua, it depends, is your program a plain executable, a daemon, a lib? |
| 14:51.24 | izua | it's a plain executable |
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| 14:51.49 | dutchfish | izua, and its for one user or all users to execute? |
| 14:52.44 | izua | it's a single user machine, and even if i'd add a second user (!= me) it will still be for me. so, just one user |
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| 14:53.41 | dutchfish | izua, i would choose ~/local then but if you want to distribute it (you should if its good) then you can read up the new maintainers guide how to do that |
| 14:53.47 | awoodland | ~/bin or ~/local/bin make sense then |
| 14:54.00 | chuckkh | oops, no working GNU/Linux installation, no CD burner- I believe that equals no net install, unless someone knows another way? |
| 14:54.18 | dutchfish | mumbles about netboot |
| 14:54.19 | awoodland | you can pxeboot the debian installer |
| 14:54.47 | awoodland | it works fine |
| 14:54.48 | adb | dpkg: tell chuckkh about USB install |
| 14:55.07 | awoodland | and there's some installer that claims to run from windows that I've never tried before |
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| 14:55.21 | chuckkh | yes, I'm reading about USB net install, and it requires a working Linux system from the references I've found |
| 14:55.43 | chuckkh | believe it or not I have no working Windows installation either, at least not here |
| 14:55.51 | awoodland | netbooting it is then :) |
| 14:56.32 | dutchfish | chuckkh, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 |
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| 14:59.23 | adb | dpkg: tell chuckkh about debootstrap |
| 14:59.36 | nkuttler | chuckkh: or, you know, find somebody with a burner |
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| 14:59.43 | chuckkh | dutchfish: thanks for the link, but it's full of Linux commands I can't use |
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| 15:01.02 | seniorake | i'm about to switch from an AMD system to an intel system, currently i'm using gcc to compile things. does anyone have experience with intel c compilers? do they produce smarter/faster binaries or something..? |
| 15:01.28 | awoodland | not much in it really in my experience |
| 15:01.31 | jelly-home | seniorake: what are you developing? |
| 15:01.48 | awoodland | and somethings are probably worse |
| 15:01.53 | chuckkh | likewise debootstrap, first step is to install a debian package... I'll just go use my wife's laptop |
| 15:01.54 | dutchfish | chuckkh, well if you ar ebrand new to linux i advise to delve into LPI first I & II |
| 15:02.00 | chuckkh | her laptop computer, that is... |
| 15:03.02 | seniorake | nothing in particular, but i'm using self-compiled mysqld for example, i do notice more performance than with .debs, so i wonder if i should use intel compilers after i switched to the intel system or not. i have no experience there |
| 15:03.02 | chuckkh | dutchfish: as I said, I have no working Linux installation at my disposal. I'm capable of typing commands at a prompt |
| 15:03.02 | chuckkh | sorry not that I expect you to remember everything I say |
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| 15:03.14 | accii | hi. I want to SSH from computer A to B. Both are behind NAT (no public address). I have also server C with public address. What to enter on A, B, C to establish connection A-->B using C as some metting point or whatever |
| 15:03.22 | dutchfish | chuckkh, ok, then my best bet is to go by usb install, but you have to donwload and prepare that first |
| 15:03.23 | chuckkh | thanks for all the help guys, I will try netbooting a Lenny installer after I go burn a LiveCD |
| 15:04.05 | jelly-home | chuckkh: you can always use a virtual machine to install and play with linux in. |
| 15:04.09 | nkuttler | accii: look into port forwarding |
| 15:04.30 | dutchfish | chuckkh, or play with virtul PC 2007 if you curently run vista |
| 15:04.52 | chuckkh | jelly-home: true, but this is an old ibook, something like 667 Mhz |
| 15:04.53 | nkuttler | accii: forward ssh port from C to B, ssh to B, ssh to C (i guess) |
| 15:04.55 | chuckkh | heh |
| 15:05.28 | accii | nkuttler: oh what is the cmd on C to forward its port to B? and I think B have to activly connect to C |
| 15:05.58 | nkuttler | accii: -L iirc |
| 15:06.04 | chuckkh | eh, actually one other question; If I run a command line from the installer CD and set up the network, is there a web browser included on the CD? |
| 15:06.15 | chuckkh | I looked for lynx but nope |
| 15:06.37 | accii | B have to activly connect to C (since noone can connect to B directly), then A should connect to C and this should setup some relay A--(C)-->B anyone knows details? |
| 15:06.43 | jelly-home | accii: you'll want to investigate ssh's RemoteForward feature |
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| 15:07.08 | accii | what is the name of this setup? A-->C and B-->C and in result A--(C)-->B so I can google a full example |
| 15:07.11 | jelly-home | accii: using that, you can make the C's sshd listener visible at B |
| 15:07.34 | jelly-home | oh wait |
| 15:07.43 | jelly-home | accii: using that, you can make the B's sshd listener visible at C. |
| 15:08.06 | jelly-home | (or any other service from B really) |
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| 15:09.12 | jelly-home | chuckkh: wget should be there, not a web browser really but... |
| 15:09.27 | chuckkh | ok |
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| 15:09.53 | izua | do scripts work the same way? can i just place a bash script in ~/bin or ~/local/bin and expect them to work from anywhere? |
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| 15:10.14 | jelly-home | chuckkh: which image are you using? I'd expect at least one of lynx, links2, elinks or w3m to be available on full-cd media |
| 15:10.20 | nkuttler | izua: no, the directory has to be in your $PATH |
| 15:10.35 | izua | what is that? |
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| 15:10.51 | accii | ok jelly-home. btw, once that work, what is the easiest way to have VCN working instead of ssh, which client to use? simple and secure |
| 15:11.01 | chuckkh | jelly-home: testing for i386, disk 1; maybe it's on the later disks? |
| 15:11.21 | chuckkh | no matter, I think I can do what I need to do |
| 15:11.24 | adb | izua: echo $PATH |
| 15:11.28 | nkuttler | izua: man bash. where bash looks for executables |
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| 15:14.28 | yziquel | hi. how can i control the repository on which apt-get source downloads a package? |
| 15:14.51 | nkuttler | yziquel: /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 15:15.14 | yziquel | nkuttler: i want to make a script without touching my configuration. |
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| 15:15.37 | awoodland | you can use dget to download sources |
| 15:16.02 | yziquel | awoodland: thanks. looking at the man page. |
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| 15:16.18 | ajavid | good morming |
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| 15:18.30 | yziquel | hmmm: dget [options] URL, but no dget [options] repository package... |
| 15:18.46 | awoodland | nope, you'd need a way to work that out yourself |
| 15:18.53 | awoodland | you basically pass it the url to a .dsc |
| 15:19.43 | yziquel | awoodland: that's unfortunate... thanks a lot. |
| 15:20.12 | awoodland | you could always poke around in Sources.gz yourself though? |
| 15:21.01 | awoodland | and IIRC there's a python library for that kind of thing |
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| 15:27.23 | Flexa | staff have a debian lenny in my note book that connects to my wireless network but the signal is too low |
| 15:27.49 | Flexa | the wireless router next to this note |
| 15:28.03 | weedar | I see many howtos on setting up a linux router says you need two NICs, but wouldn't it be possible to have only one physical NIC, but have two interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces - one with a public IP and one with a LAN IP? |
| 15:28.07 | Flexa | any idea? |
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| 15:29.26 | Flexa | my wireless network card is in roaming mode |
| 15:29.30 | tdn | I have just installed Debian Lenny on a fit-PC. Appearently there is no sound. I am trying to play music with MPD and I get no errors. Just no sound is coming. |
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| 15:29.31 | Flexa | it is?? |
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| 15:29.41 | mkeil | weedar: nope, i dont think so |
| 15:29.52 | weedar | Flexa: could be the module for the wifi-card, you could try installing compat-wireless and see if a newer driver works better (did for me) |
| 15:29.56 | asg | weedar: see lartc.org (there should be a way to do it) |
| 15:29.59 | awoodland | tdn: cat /proc/asound/devices |
| 15:30.06 | weedar | asg: Thanks, I will! |
| 15:30.13 | Flexa | ok ok im try! |
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| 15:30.17 | simonrvn | tdn: alsa defaults to having everything muted |
| 15:30.18 | awoodland | tdn: is it fit-pc or fit-pc2? |
| 15:30.42 | tdn | awoodland, fit-pc classic. |
| 15:30.59 | nkuttler | weedar: sure it's possible. may depend on the network config/nic though |
| 15:31.35 | tdn | awoodland, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1358.html |
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| 15:32.44 | awoodland | tdn: unless that's from some dummy card it's probably just mixer settings |
| 15:33.09 | awoodland | tdn: does alsamixer show anything as muted? |
| 15:33.24 | JyZyXEL | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.24 | JyZyXEL | update-alternatives: unknown argument `x-www-browser' |
| 15:33.25 | spvensko | is debian typically more stable than ubuntu given the stability of its packages? |
| 15:33.26 | awoodland | (it would write MM in the bottom of the box) |
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| 15:35.11 | weedar | nkuttler: a tiny LAN at home, the ISP has a cap on the number of DHCP-leases it offers to each customer, but I need to get one more machine online somehow so.. :-) |
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| 15:35.56 | tdn | awoodland, I just installed alsamixer and checked. Everything is muted. Which ones do I need to crank up in order to have stereo sound? I have tried Master and PCM but still no sound. |
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| 15:37.05 | awoodland | tdn: did you un-mute it as well as turn it up? master and PCM are all you need I think. (Maybe master M?) |
| 15:37.16 | tdn | How do I unmute? |
| 15:37.19 | nkuttler | weedar: you probably just need masquerading and a dhcpd. what kind of internet connection do you have? |
| 15:37.23 | awoodland | tdn: press m |
| 15:37.26 | tdn | Ok. |
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| 15:37.32 | awoodland | weedar: you can totally do it with just 1 nic |
| 15:37.53 | simonrvn | said the thing about unmuting shit 10 minutes ago... |
| 15:38.17 | awoodland | missed that one! |
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| 15:39.06 | tdn | awoodland, I have tried pressing m and turning them up to 88. but still no sound. |
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| 15:39.22 | tdn | awoodland, Master, Master M and PCM, I have unmuted and turned to 84. |
| 15:39.24 | tdn | No sound. |
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| 15:39.37 | cahoot | tdn: no analog/digital outpur jack to toggle? |
| 15:39.42 | awoodland | tdn: is your user in the audio group? |
| 15:39.55 | tdn | cahoot, ? |
| 15:40.12 | cahoot | tdn: no analog/digital output jack to toggle in alsamixer |
| 15:40.16 | tdn | awoodland, yes, uid=1000(tdn) gid=1000(tdn) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(tdn) |
| 15:40.27 | tdn | cahoot, I don't know. What do I look for? |
| 15:41.01 | weedar | nkuttler: coax, I have a bridged cable modem from the ISP connected to a DSL-router with wifi and the dhcp-server disabled. That is because I can't use the wan-port on the router as it expects a DSL-signal, so I only use the 4 LAN-ports |
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| 15:41.29 | cahoot | tdn: whatever - if you have alsa-utils installed mixer settings should automagically be correct |
| 15:41.39 | tdn | cahoot, ok. |
| 15:41.49 | tdn | cahoot, I have alsa-utils installed. |
| 15:42.10 | weedar | nkuttler: and I don't need DHCP. I was thinking I could setup an eth0:1 interface on my linux box with a LAN-IP and use that as the gateway |
| 15:42.11 | cahoot | tdn: run speaker-test -t wav -c 2 to test sound |
| 15:42.27 | nkuttler | weedar: give it a try |
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| 15:42.55 | tdn | cahoot, trying |
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| 15:43.06 | tdn | cahoot, I get Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy |
| 15:43.08 | Ace2017_- | hi alll |
| 15:43.32 | Ace2017_- | can someone recommend a dvd burning app apart from brasero and k3b, k3b hardlocked my system and brasero did this: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7291/bug1.png |
| 15:43.32 | cahoot | tdn: what does fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* return? |
| 15:43.48 | Ace2017_- | i'm hoping to avoid having to use nero in linux |
| 15:44.08 | tdn | cahoot, it was MPD. I stopped it now and your test command gives me a lady saying left, front, .... |
| 15:44.24 | cahoot | tdn: right - sounds is fine |
| 15:44.55 | cahoot | tdn: i e alsa is working just fine |
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| 15:45.04 | tdn | cahoot, well... it is extremely low volume and it is only the left speaker. No sound in right speaker. |
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| 15:45.20 | jaybee | There are some potentially very serious problems with linux and booting up |
| 15:45.28 | cahoot | tdn: try invoke-rc.d alsa-utils reset 0 |
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| 15:45.39 | tdn | cahoot, as root? |
| 15:45.50 | jaybee | Yesterdau I managed to convert my fstab from /de to uuids as the dev ids kepts changing |
| 15:46.13 | cahoot | tdn: yes |
| 15:46.13 | jaybee | however sometimes now when I boot up, it appears I also sometimes get different uuids for drives |
| 15:46.17 | tdn | cahoot, ok |
| 15:46.37 | tdn | cahoot, no difference |
| 15:46.50 | tdn | cahoot, still only left speaker |
| 15:47.15 | cahoot | tdn: no custom made .asoundrc on the system? |
| 15:47.44 | Ace2017_- | well thats just great, gnome baker just crashes |
| 15:47.52 | Ace2017_- | when i try to add a specific folder |
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| 15:48.49 | tdn | cahoot, nope. Just installed it. Fresh as a virgin :) |
| 15:49.09 | tdn | cahoot, the sound worked fine in Ubuntu (was installed before I installed Lenny) |
| 15:49.28 | spvensko | how do i change the file manager behavior so that it doesn't open a new window each time i open a new directory? |
| 15:49.34 | Ace2017_- | ah, drag and dropping to the disk contents area works but the + button crashes the app |
| 15:49.39 | cahoot | tdn: a hda-intel device? |
| 15:49.52 | tdn | cahoot, how do I check? |
| 15:50.06 | cahoot | tdn: cat /proc/asound/modules |
| 15:50.07 | tdn | 00:0f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] Audio (rev 01) |
| 15:50.18 | tdn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:51.47 | rcbarnes | I want to only build some of the packages provided by a source file (as retrieved by apt-get source virtualbox-ose, for example), but debian/rules binary wants to build all possible packages (including some I cannot compile and do not want). What do I do to restrict the build process to certain packages listed in the debian/control file? |
| 15:51.48 | cahoot | tdn: my guess it's a matter of alsaversion in the different kernels |
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| 15:52.20 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, edit your rules file? |
| 15:52.28 | tdn | cahoot, ? |
| 15:52.35 | tdn | cahoot, what does that mean? |
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| 15:53.16 | cahoot | tdn: like the ubuntu kernel comes with an alsaversion newer than the default lenny kernel |
| 15:53.21 | VulpesFoxnik | Anyone else try to build linux-kbuild-2.6.30 from SVN and get a broken pipe? |
| 15:54.09 | tdn | cahoot, so I cannot have sound working in Debian? Only in Ubuntu? |
| 15:54.22 | tdn | cahoot, the Ubuntu installed before was older than Lenny. |
| 15:55.13 | cahoot | tdn: ok |
| 15:55.58 | tdn | cahoot, what does this one mean in alsamixer: │ Item: Playback Attenuate (-6dB) [Off] │ |
| 15:56.11 | tdn | If I unmute it, the sound vol gets lower. |
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| 15:56.33 | rcbarnes | dutchfish: I hate to mess with that if it can be avoided. |
| 15:56.41 | cahoot | obviously if you turn on attenuation |
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| 15:57.24 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html#s-rules |
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| 15:58.01 | tdn | cahoot, what does it mean? |
| 15:58.10 | spvensko | how do i change the file manager behavior so that it doesn't open a new window each time i open a new directory? |
| 15:58.22 | tdn | spvensko, which file manager? |
| 15:58.24 | spvensko | i see nothing under system -> preferences -> file management |
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| 15:58.30 | spvensko | the default debian 5.0 one? |
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| 15:58.42 | spvensko | nautilus 2.20.0 |
| 15:58.42 | cahoot | tdn: attenuate means make weaker AFAIK |
| 15:59.01 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, the althernative is to build a source package from scratch with dehelper tools out of the .c and headers |
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| 15:59.08 | tdn | cahoot, oh. Ok. :) |
| 15:59.12 | hark | spvensko: it's in nautilus preferences |
| 15:59.25 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, so it depends how much you need to change |
| 15:59.26 | tdn | cahoot, do you think that I cannot get sound working in Lenny on this fit-PC? |
| 15:59.32 | hark | spvensko: open in browser windows |
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| 16:00.29 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, if this is a one time job, go by altering, if you think you need this more often in future, learn Debian new maintainers guide |
| 16:00.30 | cahoot | tdn: personally I'd try a newer kernel (which brings a newer alsa) |
| 16:01.11 | tdn | cahoot, I use Linux syrah 2.6.26-2-486 #1 Thu May 28 15:10:18 UTC 2009 i586 GNU/Linux |
| 16:01.16 | tuxnani | to all : is there any flash maker available in debian? |
| 16:01.28 | tdn | cahoot, I think Ubuntu used 2.6.18. |
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| 16:04.19 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, ones you grasp the merits, its not as hard as at look at first glance |
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| 16:05.21 | rcbarnes | dutchfish: thanks for the pointers |
| 16:05.30 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, yw |
| 16:05.36 | VulpesFoxnik | tuxnani: You could try swftools |
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| 16:07.12 | Zambezi | Who prefer zsh compare to bash? Just curious. |
| 16:07.32 | dutchfish | !pol |
| 16:07.32 | dpkg | methinks pol is please excuse PoL's shitty keyboard, i'm actually quite good at spelling and pronunciation... |
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| 16:08.36 | simonrvn | !polls |
| 16:08.36 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 16:08.59 | dutchfish | simonrvn, thank you |
| 16:09.03 | simonrvn | dutchfish: *cough* dictionary ;) |
| 16:09.06 | simonrvn | np |
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| 16:09.19 | dutchfish | simonrvn, yes, thats almost a dejavu |
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| 16:10.48 | flaccid | im installing slapd with apt-get and it simply sits on Creating initial LDAP directory... with no cpu use in top. what can i do ? |
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| 16:11.12 | klh | hi |
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| 16:14.10 | dutchfish | flaccid, could be anyhting, check disk space, disk io, sufficient rights, what version of Debian are you using? |
| 16:14.26 | flaccid | its lenny and all the above you mentioned is fine |
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| 16:14.49 | zhan_zr | Is these any Text-To-Speech software avaiable for Japanese, except the M$ SAPI? |
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| 16:15.37 | tuxnani | VulpesFoxnik:thanks it seems promising |
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| 16:16.26 | dutchfish | flaccid, did you try a aptitude update && aptitude upgrade && sync && sync? (obvious, but still) |
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| 16:18.49 | flaccid | dutchfish good suggestion i'll try dat |
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| 16:19.31 | Aberration2 | Hi! After the last update, my gnome network manager have been replaced by a grey bar... I don't have no wifi since then... |
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| 16:22.30 | Aberration2 | actually I've lost all my systray icons |
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| 16:23.49 | flaccid | nah same thing dutchfish |
| 16:24.20 | dutchfish | flaccid, is there something running on the same port as slapd use? |
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| 16:24.38 | flaccid | i doubt its even running |
| 16:24.40 | flaccid | momento |
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| 16:25.44 | flaccid | thats a negative dutchfish |
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| 16:26.14 | dutchfish | flaccid, did you check syslog and authlog and also i suggest to have a carefull look at dmesg output |
| 16:26.22 | VulpesFoxnik | !kbuild |
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| 16:27.03 | dutchfish | flaccid, funny part is, i had the same issue ones in Sarge, after that i never had that again |
| 16:27.42 | dutchfish | flaccid, back then it was related to a bug in slapd preinit script |
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| 16:28.07 | flaccid | dutchfish definately nothing being outputted to those logs |
| 16:28.28 | flaccid | interesting. well at this point im assuming its that |
| 16:28.39 | dutchfish | flaccid, i am running out of options, did you look at the bugs in that package? |
| 16:28.51 | flaccid | nope not yet |
| 16:29.32 | dutchfish | flaccid, one last q, is your /etc/host file correct? |
| 16:30.11 | flaccid | sure is |
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| 16:30.34 | dutchfish | flaccid, at the top of my head, the db structure is only created AFTER slapd has started |
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| 16:31.47 | flaccid | ah rightio |
| 16:31.54 | dutchfish | flaccid, so if its not running, it could state that it started creating the db structure while its actually not, and your problem lies elswhere (netrelated) |
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| 16:32.14 | flaccid | could be an artifact as it was installed earlier. i think my admin partner could be responsible for this hmmm |
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| 16:32.36 | flaccid | i'll purge it and try again i guess |
| 16:32.37 | dutchfish | flaccid, did you try remove and purge it? |
| 16:32.48 | dutchfish | flaccid, and then install again? |
| 16:32.54 | flaccid | doing that now |
| 16:33.47 | dutchfish | flaccid, also check that you not installing from an old damaged cache (apt) in case of doubt aptitude clean |
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| 16:34.25 | dutchfish | flaccid, i tedn to use aptitude only instead of apt-get on lenny and newer |
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| 16:34.31 | dutchfish | s/tedn/tend |
| 16:35.08 | dutchfish | flaccid, its much better in handling dependicies |
| 16:35.29 | flaccid | yeah but unfortunately this is not a dependency issue. i get by with apt-get for years personally |
| 16:36.03 | dutchfish | flaccid, i know ;) i defended apt-get myself for years until aptitude saved my day |
| 16:36.30 | dutchfish | flaccid, might not be this time |
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| 16:36.51 | flaccid | yeah aptitude doesnt have really any control over this thats for sure |
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| 16:37.29 | pede | hi |
| 16:37.49 | dutchfish | flaccid, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=262539 |
| 16:39.02 | flaccid | dutchfish yeah but this is within slapd (2.4.11-1) .. |
| 16:39.03 | pede | hi, having problem with apache..server seems to be running, pidfile exists, error.log is empty but i can't open any domain |
| 16:39.07 | pede | also tried server's IP, nothing |
| 16:40.12 | dutchfish | flaccid, and http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/o/openldap/openldap_2.4.11-1/changelog |
| 16:40.56 | phorce1_ | So, this isn't Debian specific but I'm not sure where to ask. Is there a way to cause automatic change of the default gateway in 'route' if the link currently being used as the default fails when one has a Debian system connected to multiple networks through multiple NICs? |
| 16:41.08 | dutchfish | flaccid, reading all that it might be related to back-perl-init |
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| 16:43.20 | dutchfish | phorce1_, not unless you are doing an snat/dnat rule on the old gateway |
| 16:43.40 | phorce1_ | I route all traffic on this machine through a DSL connection to keep from hammering the T-1 that's connected to my internal network when I'm doing big updates or playing on youtube. But sometimes I have to yank the DSL line to test a piece of customer equipment and I lose all network connectivity unless I manually change the default route |
| 16:44.22 | dutchfish | phorce1_, not unless you are doing an snat/dnat rule on the old gateway (by iptables) |
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| 16:44.50 | flaccid | dutchfish the process it sits on seems to be slapd.postinst configure |
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| 16:45.20 | dutchfish | flaccid, and at that time splad is not running right? |
| 16:45.28 | dutchfish | s/splad/slapd |
| 16:46.25 | subopt | Anyone know how to adjust the size of the buffer that '|' uses? Maybe there's some env var that pertains> |
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| 16:46.54 | flaccid | dutchfish correct. i can start it manually with init but that doesn't help |
| 16:47.25 | phorce1_ | dutchfish: thanks, and yuck. I was hoping not to have to start poking around in iptables. I suppose since this is a single machine i could write a little bash background script that tries to ping the GW every 60 seconds and runs route to change the default if it fails |
| 16:47.25 | dutchfish | subopt, getrlimit() & setrlimit() ? |
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| 16:48.27 | dutchfish | flaccid, i am practically sure you are running into a bug, but thats a hard nut to crack |
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| 16:48.43 | subopt | dutchfish: thx |
| 16:48.48 | jmoncayo | hey guys anyone could help me, i want to run sun virtualbox as a regular user and still have able to connect usb devices |
| 16:49.04 | mamalujo | About checkinstall, is that the usuall 'quick'n'dirty' way of integrating something installed from source to debians packet management? are there other similar tools? is that particular tool reliable - its homepage suggests its infrequently updated, not sure if thats a sign of stability or poor maintence? |
| 16:49.28 | dutchfish | phorce1_, if you google on it, there are examples floating arround |
| 16:51.07 | dutchfish | flaccid, maybe #openldap can help, i am not that good ... |
| 16:51.33 | phorce1_ | dutchfish: I've poked at google a couple of times. I need to change my search parameters or go further into the returned stack. Most of the hits I get just tell you how to use the route command (I can read a man page for that) ;-) |
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| 16:52.15 | flaccid | well at this point im thinking that the problem is my admin partner as i can see a downloaded openldap in /root that he probably manually installed over the top or some crap |
| 16:52.48 | dutchfish | phorce1_, http://pascal-schwarz.ch/blog/index.php/2008/03/09/iptables-11-nat-for-use-with-vmware-on-ovh-dedicated-server/ |
| 16:52.54 | flaccid | how can i install a package and force it to overwrite any existing files ? |
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| 16:53.33 | dutchfish | flaccid, aptitude purge foo should remove the old ones |
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| 16:53.59 | flaccid | yeah 'should' |
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| 16:54.19 | dutchfish | flaccid, if not you can it will report wich dirs not |
| 16:54.40 | dutchfish | flaccid, sorry imeant: if it cant it will report |
| 16:54.58 | tzanger | hmm, is it possible to install an i386 arch package in to an amd64 system without screwing up everything? (it's a printer filter) |
| 16:55.01 | phorce1_ | dutchfish: I also just found http://kindlund.wordpress.com/2007/11/19/configuring-multiple-default-routes-in-linux/ |
| 16:55.51 | tzanger | dpkg -i complains that it's the wrong architecture (obviously) |
| 16:55.52 | dpkg | package complains that it's the wrong architecture (obviously) is already installed |
| 16:55.53 | dutchfish | phorce1_, yes, but that one you have to alter every single machine in your net |
| 16:55.55 | phorce1_ | dutchfish: That will solve another small issue but maybe not the failover. Thank you, I have some reading to do |
| 16:56.15 | dutchfish | phorce1_, good luck |
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| 16:56.34 | phorce1_ | dutchfish: It's ONLY this machine that I use on all the nets. It's kind of my controld center |
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| 16:56.55 | dutchfish | phorece1well then both option coul dbe used then |
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| 16:58.50 | flaccid | dutchfish i guess i can do a ./configure && make depend && make install && make uninstall on that instance he downloaded and see if that helps |
| 16:59.14 | dutchfish | flaccid, hold wait |
| 16:59.30 | dutchfish | flaccid, those source files could be outdated by now! |
| 16:59.50 | flaccid | yes why would that matter |
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| 17:00.43 | dutchfish | flaccid, dependicies, security and maybe more |
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| 17:01.19 | jpinx-eeepc | anyone know how to detach an X session running in ssh -X and pick it up when I log in locally on what was the remote box? |
| 17:01.35 | dutchfish | flaccid, i dont know what you gone use ldap for, but if this was my production machine i would start from scratch |
| 17:01.35 | flaccid | dutchfish the command i mentioned above is to uninstall it |
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| 17:02.04 | flaccid | dutchfish define starting from scratch |
| 17:02.25 | dutchfish | flaccid, i tend to build packages myself wich i use on othe rmacines, but i dont build the non-debian-way |
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| 17:02.57 | dutchfish | flaccid, learned my lesson early by messing up some systems with that |
| 17:03.32 | spvensko | has anyone here run debian on a macbook or macbook pro with success? |
| 17:03.33 | flaccid | yeah but i don't see any evidence that my admin partner made a package from this source |
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| 17:03.44 | RKO | Who sponsers debian? |
| 17:03.47 | dutchfish | flaccid, with from scrtahc i mean: ldap (as used for auth and more) is so important it deserves a well installed machine |
| 17:04.01 | RKO | sponsors |
| 17:04.03 | adb | RKO: my |
| 17:04.11 | adb | me* |
| 17:04.18 | flaccid | i don't have that kind of resources |
| 17:04.29 | RKO | who owns the trademark rather? |
| 17:04.49 | dutchfish | flaccid, 2nd: it takes a lot of work, you dont wont to run later into troubles and start all over again, wont you? |
| 17:04.50 | gasull | Hi all. If I run /usr/sbin/chroot /home/jaula /bin/ls, what "/bin/ls" should be executed? The one in the jail? Right now I get a "No such file or directory" message, but /bin/ls exists both in the jail and outside. |
| 17:05.13 | adb | RKO: see www.debian.org |
| 17:05.19 | dutchfish | flaccid, but that my personal opinion |
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| 17:05.30 | flaccid | dutchfish i don't see your point on the 2nd one |
| 17:06.10 | mns | Anyone know of any good HOWTOs that would help me setup some WinXP virtual machines on my Debian laptop ? I would need networking to work so that the guest OS is able to access everything it needs. I just need it to be very easy, as I'm going to be tearing it up and bringing it down quiet a lot. |
| 17:06.22 | nkuttler | !tell RKO about spi |
| 17:06.41 | dutchfish | flaccid, well if you come to a point that you ar emaking your own schema files and depend a lot on a good functioning ldap server, a good preparartion of a well installed ldap server is no luxuary |
| 17:06.48 | nkuttler | mns: qemu can do that |
| 17:06.58 | gasull | mns: There are several ways of accomplishing that: VMWare, Virtualbox, etc. |
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| 17:07.27 | flaccid | yes but your point all comes down to the competency of the admins. thats somewhat a constant.. |
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| 17:07.38 | mns | gasull: free software or close to free software. Virtualbox-ose or kvm probably I think. |
| 17:07.44 | dutchfish | flaccid, true |
| 17:08.11 | mns | nkuttler: qemu by itself or qemu + kvm ? |
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| 17:08.55 | nkuttler | mns: by itself |
| 17:09.31 | gasull | mns: I'm not an expert, but for what I've been told, VMWare is the best one, although not so easy to set up and isn't in the repos. The second best option is Virtualbox and is pretty good and continuously improving. |
| 17:09.38 | mats | since i used debian-multimedia as sources - and after a few updates - my vlc player stopped working (so he plays sound but i don't get a picture) the other player - like totem, mplayer and gxine - jerk (the do not play all frames/ in german "ruckeln"). Do anyone know help? |
| 17:10.38 | mns | gasull: ok thanks. I'll poke around for virtualbox info. |
| 17:10.51 | valan | i find vbox to be better than vmware |
| 17:10.59 | valan | though i haven't used vmware in awhile |
| 17:11.06 | mns | nkuttler: hadn't thought about using qemu by itself. thought it would be slower compared to using it with kvm. |
| 17:11.22 | gasull | mns: np |
| 17:11.31 | mns | valan: what do you use it for ? running Windows as a guest on your debian host ? |
| 17:11.44 | nkuttler | mns: kvm is hardware-dependend |
| 17:11.46 | valan | i run into random uses from time to time |
| 17:12.10 | valan | at one point i was running a 10 node vbox network ;) |
| 17:12.29 | mns | nkuttler: yeah kvm is hardware dependent. I'm going to be on 686-bigmem kernel. so should be fine. |
| 17:12.42 | mns | valan: 10 vbox vms ? all networked together ? |
| 17:12.45 | spvensko | anyone here have debian working on a macbook pro? |
| 17:12.48 | valan | yep |
| 17:12.49 | valan | fun stuff |
| 17:12.53 | mns | damn |
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| 17:13.03 | spvensko | i see that there is a wiki entry on it but i just want to ensure that it works like it would on any other computer before purchasing one |
| 17:13.07 | valan | i was testing samba out |
| 17:13.09 | adb | spvensko: yes, try #debianppc |
| 17:13.17 | mns | that would be a nice way to test it out :) |
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| 17:13.30 | spvensko | adb, macbook pros use intel processors |
| 17:13.32 | gasull | I'm trying right now to create a chrooted user that can run wine |
| 17:13.40 | adb | spvensko: oh.. |
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| 17:13.55 | nkuttler | all macbooks use intel |
| 17:14.01 | mns | how much disk space did you have to use for each node ? and memory ? |
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| 17:14.12 | mns | must have been a big box you were running it on, valan |
| 17:14.18 | valan | 5gb disk space, 128mb memory |
| 17:14.42 | valan | on my 2.2ghz core2 laptop with 3gb ram |
| 17:14.54 | mns | you weren't running windows though as the guest os where you ? |
| 17:15.27 | valan | on a few of them |
| 17:15.36 | valan | was fine for testing purposes |
| 17:16.14 | mns | I have a 4GB, 2.8GHz Core2 Duo laptop |
| 17:16.35 | mats | does anybody know help? |
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| 17:17.56 | mns | valan: virtualbox-ose from the debian repositories ? |
| 17:18.38 | valan | i was on arch at the time i did that |
| 17:18.52 | mns | ahh ok |
| 17:19.10 | mns | I'll poke around their stuff and see what they got. |
| 17:19.13 | mns | thanks. |
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| 17:21.19 | gasull | Can somebody explain to me the chroot command a bit? I created a user "jaula" and copied /usr/bin/wine to /home/jaula/usr/bin/wine-jaula and all the libraries needed (using ldd) to /home/jaula/lib and /home/jaula/lib32. But now if I run chroot /home/jaula /usr/bin/wine-jaula I get the error "No such file or directory". What am I doing wrong? Thank you. |
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| 17:32.52 | nvz | please for the love of bob, does anyone know how to turn of the auto bullet crap in OO.o Writer? I looked around in the settings and I don't see it |
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| 17:33.04 | nvz | I am trying to write a f'n song and it thinks I am doing an outline |
| 17:33.33 | JPT | hm |
| 17:33.40 | JPT | isn't there #openoffice? /me tries |
| 17:33.48 | nvz | yeah with one person in there |
| 17:33.50 | nkuttler | nvz: bullet as in list? i don't think you should use a list for lyrics (.oO) |
| 17:33.59 | nvz | its not lyrics its chords |
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| 17:34.05 | voxio | nobody wants to support oo |
| 17:34.06 | nkuttler | ah |
| 17:34.06 | voxio | lol |
| 17:34.13 | nvz | hah |
| 17:34.26 | nvz | I don't want to even use it, I should just install a simple editor |
| 17:34.35 | voxio | why goesn't x feature from my ms office document work in oo |
| 17:34.36 | voxio | etc |
| 17:34.55 | voxio | nvz: gedit |
| 17:34.56 | flaccid | JPT #openoffice.org |
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| 17:35.25 | JPT | thx..i was just wondering :) |
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| 17:36.18 | jmoncayo | hey guys, how can i know how much memory is installed in my laptop |
| 17:36.30 | cahoot | free -m |
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| 17:38.37 | flaccid | dutchfish its freezing on /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/slapd.postinst configure |
| 17:38.41 | jmoncayo | i was so sure i have installed 2gb ram modules, but it only shows 1886 :( |
| 17:38.48 | flaccid | which i belive calls slapadd and thats where it does nothing |
| 17:38.51 | SPF | jmoncayo: cat /proc/meminfo |
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| 17:40.07 | jmoncayo | MemTotal: 1931544 kB |
| 17:40.10 | jmoncayo | :( |
| 17:40.15 | flaccid | i guess i should be checking /var/lib/ldap |
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| 17:40.41 | dutchfish | flaccid, did you check if perl is up 2 date, could it be perl related? |
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| 17:41.08 | flaccid | perl is up to date |
| 17:41.10 | flaccid | dunno what it could be |
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| 17:41.23 | flaccid | perms is drwx------ 2 openldap openldap 4096 2009-06-21 02:43 /var/lib/ldap |
| 17:41.25 | unjustice | to extract a tar file I type sud tar -xfj filename? |
| 17:41.26 | thurein | hi |
| 17:41.34 | unjustice | *sudo |
| 17:41.41 | dutchfish | flaccid, i have no further clues .... did you try #openldap ? |
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| 17:41.52 | flaccid | not yet |
| 17:41.52 | thurein | i try to add backports repository on debian lenny |
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| 17:42.16 | thurein | but I cant update it and it show 404 error |
| 17:43.07 | thurein | I added the backports repository as described on backports.org |
| 17:43.23 | flaccid | dutchfish rightio that what it is |
| 17:43.28 | flaccid | it sits on slapadd |
| 17:43.54 | flaccid | if i call it from command line, same thing happens. so question is, should it be using any params and why is slapadd doing that |
| 17:44.35 | SPF | jmoncayo: that |
| 17:44.44 | flaccid | ah i reckon slapadd is from my admin partners 2.4.16 which is what it says in the man page |
| 17:44.56 | SPF | jmoncayo: that's because 1024 bytes (binary) is actually 1000 bytes (decimal) |
| 17:45.09 | SPF | jmoncayo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte |
| 17:45.16 | jmoncayo | damn it, i suppose one of my modules is dead |
| 17:45.59 | Ambush | heh |
| 17:46.01 | Ambush | hahaha |
| 17:46.10 | Ambush | SPF: the module, its dead. |
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| 17:46.25 | Ambush | SPF: why is my 1tb HD only 931GB? :p |
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| 17:47.44 | aarkerio | hi! I I have a bank : DIMM DDR Synchronous 400 MHz (2.5 ns) |
| 17:47.56 | aarkerio | can I buy DDR2 ram? |
| 17:48.29 | Ambush | no |
| 17:48.29 | flaccid | dutchfish bang that was it |
| 17:48.36 | dutchfish | flaccid, you solved it? |
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| 17:49.00 | Ambush | aarkerio: unless it specifically states DDR2, your board only has DDR slots, the ram is not the same |
| 17:49.02 | flaccid | yeah slapadd was from that one he downloaded. so purging didn't remove that file |
| 17:49.04 | Ambush | shame too, because ddr2 is soooo cheap. |
| 17:49.27 | thurein | hi, i cant use backports repository on lenny. |
| 17:49.41 | aarkerio | yea, always older hw cost more |
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| 17:49.44 | aarkerio | thx Ambush ! |
| 17:49.49 | thurein | i already add in sources.list as described on website |
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| 17:50.13 | dutchfish | flaccid, ok, good to hear |
| 17:50.15 | flaccid | dutchfish how can i see the file list that the source make would install so i can manually remove them all before proceeding. eg. the man page is still from that |
| 17:50.20 | thurein | but when i update apt-get , the backports show 404 error |
| 17:50.23 | flaccid | thanks for your help though |
| 17:50.44 | dutchfish | flaccid, by hand only |
| 17:50.58 | dutchfish | flaccid, that why debian invited dpkg etc |
| 17:51.02 | flaccid | yeah but how do i get the list from the makefile or whatever |
| 17:51.53 | dutchfish | flaccid, yes |
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| 17:52.16 | flaccid | Makefile doesn't list files it lists dirs and stuff to use |
| 17:52.23 | dutchfish | flaccid, unless its a debian source package |
| 17:52.53 | flaccid | but surely after doing configure and make, prior to make install you can get a list of what it installs from somewhere in there |
| 17:53.40 | dutchfish | flaccid, you can do a dry run (not actually installing) but i dont know if your makefile supports that |
| 17:54.12 | flaccid | make test ? |
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| 17:54.46 | flaccid | hmm nah that does other stuff |
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| 17:55.03 | dutchfish | flaccid, maybe i amnot sure, because i dont know exactly whats in it |
| 17:55.18 | flaccid | rightio |
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| 17:55.42 | dutchfish | flaccid, i would inspect first and remove everything manually (i isnt that much normally) |
| 17:55.45 | flaccid | i think i'll updated and remove files that i know for certain are from it and then start from scratch |
| 17:55.53 | flaccid | yeah |
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| 18:00.28 | flaccid | thanks again dutchfish. it will be nice to get on with some work on this now |
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| 18:01.21 | dutchfish | flaccid, yw, and good luck |
| 18:01.41 | flaccid | thanks heaps |
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| 18:02.47 | pede | hi, having problem with apache..server seems to be running, pidfile exists, error.log is empty but i can't open any domain |
| 18:02.48 | pede | also tried server's IP, nothing |
| 18:04.56 | initq | telnet to port 80 or use nmap |
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| 18:14.01 | Gokee2 | When is cron-daily run? I can't seem to find it in syslog |
| 18:15.14 | simonrvn | daily |
| 18:15.30 | Gokee2 | simonrvn, But at what time? |
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| 18:16.20 | initq | cat /etc/crontab |
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| 18:17.27 | Gokee2 | initq, Ah! thanks! :) |
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| 18:18.09 | initq | Gokee2: welcome |
| 18:18.21 | dutchfish | simonrvn, brings me to the question are those times generated or have default values on install? |
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| 18:19.38 | dutchfish | simonrvn, ie are those values per default the same on all fresh installs? |
| 18:19.47 | simonrvn | they used to be hardcoded on install... dunno now |
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| 18:20.01 | dutchfish | simonrvn, thanks |
| 18:20.39 | gasull | How can I create or copy /dev/null in a chrooted environment? |
| 18:20.59 | dutchfish | simonrvn, i ask this while this could trigger a lot of mail at the same time in the backup window ... mmmm i have to check this one out |
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| 18:21.45 | simonrvn | gasull: just bind mount the real /dev |
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| 18:22.57 | gasull | simonrvn: how? |
| 18:23.07 | gasull | simonrvn: with ln? |
| 18:23.23 | simonrvn | no with mount |
| 18:23.39 | Javi-K | Can anyone lend me a hand ? Some packages got removed trough apt-get and now I can't start X windows... Any help will be appreciated ! Thanks on forehand |
| 18:23.43 | simonrvn | ln -s wouldn't work... think about it |
| 18:24.21 | gasull | simonrvn: mount /dev/null /home/jaula/dev/null ? |
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| 18:25.27 | simonrvn | man mount |
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| 18:26.12 | iluminator101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.18 | gasull | simonrvn: I see: mount --bind /dev/null /home/jaula/dev/null |
| 18:26.34 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 18:26.51 | gasull | simonrvn: thanks! |
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| 18:32.51 | phorce1_ | iluminator101: man cron |
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| 18:36.09 | iluminator101 | i couldnt get cron to go less than a minute what i am doing wrong |
| 18:36.10 | valdyn | iluminator101: while true;do runscript;sleep 30;done |
| 18:36.34 | iluminator101 | super thanks guys |
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| 18:37.35 | phorce1 | iluminator101: oops, I didn't really think baout the 30 second thing before I typed |
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| 18:39.13 | Franklin-4fce | hello |
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| 18:40.51 | rastafreund | http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9172/1245456677307.jpg |
| 18:41.00 | letaris11 | hello |
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| 18:41.09 | pngwn | rastafreund, take that shit elsewhere |
| 18:41.22 | simonrvn | /kick rastafreund |
| 18:41.25 | rastafreund | oh |
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| 18:41.31 | rastafreund | k |
| 18:41.36 | rastafreund | sry |
| 18:41.38 | pngwn | thank you |
| 18:41.46 | letaris11 | ban him |
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| 18:41.55 | letaris11 | hello |
| 18:42.04 | letaris11 | hello |
| 18:42.06 | pngwn | !ask |
| 18:42.06 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:42.10 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
| 18:42.15 | pngwn | amen |
| 18:42.23 | letaris11 | hahahahahah |
| 18:42.49 | letaris11 | join my new:#xfce-help |
| 18:43.08 | letaris11 | #xfce-help |
| 18:43.10 | pngwn | letaris11, please don't do that |
| 18:43.17 | rastafreund | i thougt it would be ok to post such a link. but ok, if its not welcome i'll take that skit elsewhere :) |
| 18:43.25 | letaris11 | what |
| 18:43.27 | rastafreund | letaris11: you are an idiot |
| 18:43.37 | letaris11 | a what |
| 18:43.39 | rastafreund | idiot |
| 18:43.41 | rastafreund | IDIOT |
| 18:43.46 | simonrvn | it's off-topic... |
| 18:43.52 | letaris11 | yes |
| 18:44.06 | simonrvn | adds another plonk |
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| 18:44.22 | letaris11 | go on #xfce-help |
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| 18:44.47 | rastafreund | to discriminate me and then post stupid messages same... |
| 18:44.55 | rastafreund | still idiot like |
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| 18:45.33 | letaris11 | go on #xfce-help |
| 18:45.43 | phorce1 | wonders if it's Sunday already |
| 18:45.47 | letaris11 | and you well see |
| 18:46.40 | letaris11 | hello |
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| 18:47.25 | rastafreund | hm |
| 18:47.30 | letaris11 | what does the @ means |
| 18:47.52 | letaris11 | on @debhelper |
| 18:47.53 | rastafreund | letaris11: jfgi |
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| 18:48.04 | letaris11 | what |
| 18:48.32 | obcecado | it means debhelper got his own personal snail |
| 18:48.35 | havocologe | what could be wrong in the following line of my fstab ? |
| 18:48.44 | Ambush | letaris11: means he's got cookies, and a sandwich. |
| 18:48.51 | havocologe | /uweheimneu/DATEN\ \(F\) /netmnt/daten_uwe smbfs defaults,username=ooo,passwd= 0 0 |
| 18:49.18 | havocologe | if i mount it by "mount" in the console with the exact same parameters it is working fine |
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| 18:50.15 | letaris11 | hahhahahahhahahhahah |
| 18:50.31 | letaris11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.41 | arvind_khadri | hi, i am unable to connect to yahoo , using pidgin |
| 18:50.58 | valdyn | havocologe: you probably dont need to escape the ( |
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| 18:51.19 | letaris11 | #xfce-help |
| 18:51.53 | havocologe | mount -a complains about a bad line in fstab but mount /netmnt/daten_uwe says mount: can't find daten_uwe in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 18:52.09 | havocologe | valdyn that did not help. |
| 18:52.19 | havocologe | for command line i need the ( escaped |
| 18:52.20 | valdyn | havocologe: what did not help? |
| 18:52.36 | havocologe | i "unescaped" the ( and ) |
| 18:52.41 | valdyn | havocologe: were talking about fstab, i know that you need to escape it for bash |
| 18:52.42 | havocologe | but no differenc |
| 18:52.54 | havocologe | yea but in fstab it did not change the error |
| 18:54.30 | arvind_khadri | the connection hangs.... it stays at connecting.... |
| 18:54.30 | Alam_Lenny | arvind_khadri, check #pidgin's topic: "Yahoo issues: http://tinyurl.com/mdws83 -- We're working on it" |
| 18:54.32 | havocologe | valdyn: could the problem be the space between DATEN and (F) ? |
| 18:54.32 | havocologe | though i have escaped it ? |
| 18:54.32 | letaris11 | #xfce-help |
| 18:54.32 | letaris11 | go to it |
| 18:55.06 | arvind_khadri | Alam_Lenny, guessed so ... thanks... so the issue is not with the messenger... btw how do you keep track of this news ?? :) |
| 18:55.17 | letaris11 | #xfce-help |
| 18:55.25 | letaris11 | go to it |
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| 18:59.26 | simonrvn | "lol" is also NOT punctuation. BTW, 'lol' factoid is locked. |
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| 18:59.53 | letaris11 | go on #xfce-help |
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| 19:04.00 | havocologe | valdyn: the porobelm was the space between dDATEN and (F) |
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| 19:04.16 | letaris11 | go on #xfce-help |
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| 19:06.54 | kibibyte | whats the problem with xfce |
| 19:06.54 | kibibyte | ? |
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| 19:07.44 | letaris11 | go on #xfce-help |
| 19:07.54 | letaris11 | ok it new |
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| 19:09.24 | simonrvn | kibibyte: no problems here |
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| 19:10.08 | letaris11 | hello |
| 19:10.12 | tux1337 | I've got a small problem with dnscache from djbdns server, I used lenny to set up dnscache (apt-get install dnscache-run), it works for localhost. Then I'd like to bind dnscache to the network ip. I inserted the public ip into: /etc/dnscache/env/IP and restarted the service. Now it do not work anymore, (connection refused). in which logfile can I search for the error? |
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| 19:12.03 | helo | that's classy... anyone use lenny's electric sheep lately? |
| 19:12.23 | helo | it now says, "this version is closing, please go to electricsheep.org/upgrade" in big letters over the screensaver |
| 19:12.47 | helo | ... making it useless as a screen "saver" |
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| 19:14.28 | helo | are potentially hardware damaging bugs worthy of a stable package upgrade or official backport? |
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| 19:18.53 | helo | i suppose that's something that will eventually happen with all packages that rely on a remote server |
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| 19:19.27 | helo | so when the remote server pulls the plug, the package is just broken forever? |
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| 19:28.18 | tzanger | good afternoon; I'm trying to install some third-party printer filters (canon) on an amd64 system but they only have i386 binaries. dpkg -i complains (rightfully) that it's for the wrong arch, but it should work; is there a way to override it without screwing up the system? |
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| 19:29.48 | nkuttler | tzanger: --force-help or manually extract the deb |
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| 19:32.49 | tzanger | --force-architecture looks fine |
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| 19:33.25 | unixSnob | are there any debian apps that can grow an HFS+ partition? (gparted cannot) |
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| 19:41.39 | HummerB | The new Lenny installation process is quite streamlined. Not a lot of questions |
| 19:42.00 | Flexa | hey guys my notebook with the stable Debian Lenny compat-wireless sees my wireless network but not connect |
| 19:42.02 | HummerB | But it takes a bit longer than the old etch (businesscard version) |
| 19:42.08 | Flexa | any idea?? |
| 19:42.43 | Flexa | already moved the keys to the wireless router also |
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| 19:43.24 | Flexa | but he still does not connect so sees the networks |
| 19:43.52 | HummerB | Flexa: Check that your security mode (WEP/WPA/WPA2) is the same on the router and the notebook |
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| 19:46.50 | Flexa | HummerB my wlan0 as the roaming that have something there? |
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| 19:47.25 | HummerB | Flexa: Does not compute |
| 19:47.34 | Flexa | this as my key WPA2 Personal |
| 19:48.16 | Flexa | the options of wlan0 when not in roaming so but do not have WPA2 wep |
| 19:48.43 | Flexa | so left in roaming |
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| 19:52.38 | Flexa | is not no way to connect wireless network :( |
| 19:53.20 | Flexa | even in networks without any security I have here as a test |
| 19:54.06 | Flexa | any idea? |
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| 19:54.21 | Deformative | Apparently I already have a non-apache web server running. |
| 19:54.26 | Deformative | How do i figure out what it is? |
| 19:54.39 | enouf | lsof |
| 19:54.45 | enouf | netstat -tunap |
| 19:55.14 | enouf | !wpasupplicant |
| 19:55.14 | dpkg | from memory, wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian Lenny, Etch and Squeeze in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (esp. "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Lenny's Debian Installer does not support WPA. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 19:56.19 | enouf | unixSnob: can gnu parted? |
| 19:56.33 | Deformative | Ah! |
| 19:56.40 | Deformative | I have apache 1 and apache 2 both installed. |
| 19:56.57 | Flexa | im have a wpasuplicant instaled here |
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| 19:57.13 | damog | stew: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/lib/Moose.pm |
| 19:57.16 | Flexa | the lenny no work to the wpa?? |
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| 19:57.26 | enouf | unixSnob: oh .. i don't even think linux can mount hfs+ 'rw', only 'ro' IIRC? (just as a side note) i recall devel stopped long ago? |
| 19:57.45 | Flexa | even with wpa supplicant installed? |
| 19:58.03 | enouf | lenny installer (the factoid says) |
| 20:00.01 | Flexa | what version of ndiswrapper you can use in Amd64 Lenny stable? please |
| 20:00.07 | Flexa | humm?? |
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| 20:00.31 | inkr | 1000's to chose from |
| 20:00.54 | inkr | I have paralizing screensaver in lenny stable |
| 20:01.01 | mesa_booger | Flexa: i'm using ndiswrapper & wpa_supplicant here & now. any serious questions, just ask. but pls stop dribbling on like a child |
| 20:01.18 | inkr | damn, this frebreeze smells good |
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| 20:01.35 | inkr | ...where did I hear that...heh |
| 20:01.42 | Flexa | ok ok thank you |
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| 20:04.16 | mesa_booger | Flexa: first, the basics. sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-source module-assistant |
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| 20:04.45 | Flexa | ok ok |
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| 20:16.07 | unixSnob | enouf: It just occured to me that I can create another hfs+ partition using gparted.. so that solves my problem of needing more hfs+ space |
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| 20:16.44 | unixSnob | enouf: and yes, it's a bit of a pain that hfs+ is read-only |
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| 20:17.35 | unixSnob | The ultimate answer is to switch to ZFS.. but I don't have the energy to get all the hacks in place and rebuild things |
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| 20:17.53 | lolufail | hi! |
| 20:18.41 | lolufail | while trying to install grub onto a usb stick, I get: grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /dev/sdn1. |
| 20:18.41 | lolufail | can't figure it out, google only returns stuff with mknod, which I dont unterstand (http://www.delodder.be/debian/grub-problems/) any ideas? |
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| 20:19.23 | EricBlade | hey guys.. may /var/lib/dpkg/status file is corrupt.. is there some way to regen it? |
| 20:19.31 | unixSnob | lolufail: did you run lsusb to see that it was listed? |
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| 20:20.06 | lolufail | unixSnob: it is listed and mounted |
| 20:21.03 | simonrvn | EricBlade: /var/backups |
| 20:21.10 | mesa_booger | EricBlade: there is or should be a status-old file in there. you might have some luck there |
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| 20:22.09 | unixSnob | lolufail: i can't be much help.. but I would suggest perhaps creating a file that you mount and treat like a drive. Once the file has all the information you want, you can use dd to copy the contents to the usb drive |
| 20:22.27 | unixSnob | lolufail: I've had to do that in some cases where my usb drive acts weird |
| 20:22.37 | lolufail | argh |
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| 20:23.08 | EricBlade | that seems good, thanks mesa. been upgrading an ancient system, and a storm just came through, and our power went unstable :( |
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| 20:28.02 | lolufail | i think this is a problem with the retarded scripts |
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| 20:30.25 | lolufail | can anyone make something out of this?? http://pastebin.com/mb2704a3 |
| 20:31.29 | lolufail | he keeps trying to probe /dev/sda1, which is on the local harddrive, no matter what I specify in the device.map |
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| 20:32.59 | lolufail | grub-probe: info: the size of hd2323 is 8028160 |
| 20:33.00 | lolufail | wtf |
| 20:33.10 | lolufail | jesus christ this is quite annoying |
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| 20:37.18 | EricBlade | apt is complaining that "debianutils" and the "passwd" package both need to be upgraded, and that both of them contain one of the same files, so it is dying. how do i deal with this? |
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| 20:39.08 | nkuttler | grmbl, mplayer vs xorg, 2:0 |
| 20:41.27 | lolufail | can grub somehow list what he sees when he looks at my devices? |
| 20:41.46 | lolufail | I have a raid on this machine, which seems to confuse the scripts |
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| 20:43.26 | Raydiation | can someone explain me what alias domains are? |
| 20:43.44 | lolufail | Raydiation: ot :D |
| 20:43.54 | Raydiation | #ispconfig is private |
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| 20:44.57 | superjoe | so uh... what's the deal with network manager in squeeze |
| 20:45.19 | superjoe | and while we're at it, svn |
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| 20:49.04 | superjoe | answer to my second question: http://devplant.net/2009/06/19/svn-problems-in-debian-squeezetesting/ |
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| 20:52.21 | Raydiation | how can i add subdomains in ispconfig that overwrite and not redirect the url? |
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| 20:55.54 | khaleel5000 | hello, i have debian testing,i am using nv dirvers for my Nvidia 9600M GT, they are quite good, and KDE 4.2 that i use performs better with them, incomparision to nvidia's drivers, the problem with nv drivers is ,movies dont run smoothly, i have tried kaffeine, xine , (mplayer even in full screen, runs the video in size of a small screen) |
| 20:56.10 | khaleel5000 | my xorg is here http://pastebin.com/m3aee2728 |
| 20:56.30 | khaleel5000 | i have tried enabling the glx module too |
| 20:56.33 | khaleel5000 | no success |
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| 20:59.10 | EricBlade | anyone? passwd has files conflicting with debiantools, removing either of these packages results in a highly broken system? |
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| 21:01.20 | xci | has anyone been able to resolve this "unable to enumerate usb device"-problem? |
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| 21:04.19 | EricBlade | guess i just edit the dpkg/info and make it do it |
| 21:04.20 | EricBlade | :) |
| 21:05.25 | EricBlade | yay that did it |
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| 21:06.44 | maligor | !ops jacksmith123 spamming joiners |
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| 21:07.12 | EricBlade | nice.. old ver of passwd has "add-shell" and "remove-shell" in it. apparently those were moved to the package "debiantools". so, it's impossible to upgrade without editing the data files, because you can't install debiantools because it has files that your old passwd package had, but you can't install the new passwd package to fix that, because it depends on debiantools. brilliant. |
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| 21:10.18 | simonrvn | EricBlade: you trying to upgrade say from sarge to lenny? don't skip releases. |
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| 21:16.03 | dondelelcaro | EricBlade: but since you're already at that state, use the --force-overwrite option. /msg dpkg force-overwrite; for details |
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| 21:17.11 | ShADoW_LnX | Buenas, acabo de instalar Lenny en una P2 con netinstall y a momento de iniciar sesion aparece una terminal abierta en el escritorio, verifique los programas de autoarranque de xfce pero no encuentro nada de la terminal, alguien sabe que podria ser? |
| 21:17.32 | ShADoW_LnX | sorry wrong language.. |
| 21:19.33 | simonrvn | try again in eng. maybe ;). or #debian-es |
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| 21:19.51 | zmitya | hi all |
| 21:20.04 | Shardphoenix | Hi |
| 21:20.10 | zmitya | guys, can somebody please help me get etch netinst cd image ? |
| 21:20.25 | zmitya | can't find it :( |
| 21:20.50 | patrikf | zmitya: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 21:21.05 | patrikf | er, etch? |
| 21:21.09 | patrikf | why would you want to install etch? |
| 21:21.32 | JyZyXEL | xdg-open "http://google.com" |
| 21:21.33 | JyZyXEL | Error showing url: Operation not supported |
| 21:21.38 | JyZyXEL | what the hell? |
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| 21:22.23 | zmitya | patrikf: ok, but I need Etch cd |
| 21:22.32 | patrikf | zmitya: why? |
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| 21:22.49 | zmitya | patrikf: because one of my etch is in trouble |
| 21:24.17 | nkuttler | zmitya: it's available at debian.org |
| 21:24.49 | nkuttler | zmitya: s#lenny#etch# of the installer download url |
| 21:25.01 | zmitya | nkuttler: thanks !! |
| 21:26.23 | JyZyXEL | xdg-open "http://google.com" |
| 21:26.25 | JyZyXEL | Error showing url: Operation not supported |
| 21:26.34 | zmitya | nkuttler: the image name is debian-501-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:26.47 | zmitya | nkuttler: what is etch's ? |
| 21:27.02 | nkuttler | zmitya: http://www.debian.org/releases/oldstable/debian-installer/ |
| 21:27.23 | zmitya | nkuttler: great, thanks |
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| 21:30.23 | HardDisk_WP | how do I copy two files via ftp to a remote host in batch mode? |
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| 21:32.44 | zmitya | HardDisk_WP: ncftpput / ncftpget |
| 21:33.05 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 21:33.10 | simNIX | I dont know aout batch mode but I believe lftp can ftp from one server to another |
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| 21:35.04 | lolufail | recommend a distro with kde 4.2 |
| 21:35.22 | lolufail | , please |
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| 21:37.31 | nkuttler | lolufail: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html |
| 21:38.48 | craigevil | lolufail: most of kde4.2 is in testing all of it is in sid, if you just want a kde4.2 distro thats debian based try sidux |
| 21:39.34 | lolufail | I'm between kubuntu and sabayon (since I like gentoo), haven't heard of sidux yet... |
| 21:39.55 | jimi_c | ok, trying a network install of 5.0.1 on a vmware server (also tried xenfv, got the same result), and it complains first about not being able to find a cdrom, and then it can't find a driver for the network card |
| 21:39.59 | lolufail | sidux is not that high on distrowatch |
| 21:40.17 | jimi_c | do i need more dvd's than the first one to do this successfully? or am i just using the wrong initrd for pxe? |
| 21:40.37 | Raydiation | lolufail: arch linux has great 4.2 packages |
| 21:40.48 | jimi_c | the initrd i'm using is install.386/initrd.gz |
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| 21:45.54 | lolufail | Raydiation: I already know 2 distros, dont wanna 'learn' a third package management ;) |
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| 21:48.51 | MrWax | http://pastebin.com/mc913f84 |
| 21:48.55 | MrWax | does this looks wrong to anyone? |
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| 21:50.16 | nkuttler | MrWax: why do you ask? |
| 21:51.01 | jimi_c | MrWax: looks ok to me |
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| 21:52.28 | `Abo | hello, I have just changed my motherboard and now when I turn on my pc it doesnt proceed, it stops saying: udevd-event[623] run program /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit |
| 21:52.32 | `Abo | last line is: |
| 21:52.51 | `Abo | 8139cp: 10/100 pci ethernet adapter |
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| 21:53.03 | `Abo | 8139cp: 10/100 pci ethernet adapter driver v1.3 |
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| 21:54.36 | jimi_c | `Abo: sounds like you've either got a corrupt piece of hardware or a corrupt driver, remove the pci card and see if that allows the system to boot |
| 21:55.30 | `Abo | jimi_c, I disabled the card |
| 21:55.35 | `Abo | and still doesnt work |
| 21:55.45 | jimi_c | disabled? how |
| 21:55.49 | `Abo | the last line does not appear |
| 21:55.55 | `Abo | from bios, that was the incorporated one |
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| 21:56.07 | `Abo | the motherboard works fine |
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| 21:57.02 | `Abo | I used it before but now Ive put it on my debian machine and does not seem to be fine |
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| 21:57.37 | jimi_c | is that driver listed in any of the /etc/modules* files? |
| 21:57.51 | `Abo | wait it passed |
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| 21:58.07 | `Abo | omfg, it was a very long wait and now it passed, started |
| 21:58.23 | `Abo | I will reboot to see if it will do the same |
| 21:58.57 | jimi_c | probably will, seems like the kernel is seeing the device despite being disabled in bios... |
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| 21:59.24 | `Abo | rebooting now.. to see whats up with it |
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| 22:01.02 | `Abo | yeah still seems locked when starting but I guess if I leave it it will pass this |
| 22:01.06 | `Abo | what should I check for |
| 22:01.09 | `Abo | last line is: |
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| 22:01.59 | `Abo | itco_wdf: initializied. heartbeat=38 sec (nowyout=0) |
| 22:02.43 | `Abo | (0x778). irq 7 (PCSPP.TR1STATE.EPP) |
| 22:02.48 | `Abo | these are the kast 2 lines |
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| 22:02.57 | `Abo | (0x778). irq 7 (PCSPP.TRISTATE.EPP) |
| 22:02.58 | Garp | Hi. |
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| 22:03.25 | `Abo | after those two: |
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| 22:03.29 | Maveas | Hi guys.. |
| 22:03.32 | `Abo | done. (timeout) |
| 22:03.35 | `Abo | and it passed |
| 22:03.58 | Maveas | I'm seeking help on how to do an image of a harddive which cannot read it's own SA! |
| 22:04.12 | Garp | Question; in which state is testing currently? I just tried, and there are a lot of complain to upgrade, seems that kde_full or gnome metapkgs have some dependencies that are missing. Is that me or is that testing? |
| 22:04.17 | Garp | Thanks. |
| 22:04.17 | Maveas | I've tried with dd_rescue some weeks ago but nothing happened! |
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| 22:07.02 | Raydiation | lolufail: why? pacman is great :) |
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| 22:14.16 | mischief | !give garp testing |
| 22:14.16 | dpkg | gives garp testing |
| 22:14.20 | mischief | >:( |
| 22:14.24 | mischief | !testing |
| 22:14.25 | dpkg | [testing] a release/suite between <stable> and <unstable>. Testing currently points to <squeeze> and as <lenny> has only just been released, squeeze users are in for a bumpy ride. Either be clueful or be told that you shouldn't be using testing. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html. Ask me about <testing faq><lenny->squeeze><testing security><moving target><dda><apt-listchanges><bts>. |
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| 22:14.53 | Garp | mischief: thanks. I'll stay on stable for a while, then. |
| 22:15.00 | mischief | :) |
| 22:16.21 | Maveas | No one? |
| 22:16.41 | superjoe | can whereami connect to hidden networks? |
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| 22:22.50 | `Abo | what are these processes? |
| 22:23.11 | `Abo | 1419 ? D< 0:00 /sbin/modprobe --use-blacklist pci:v00008086d000027D8sv00001043sd000082EAbc04sc03i00 1516 ? D< 0:00 /sbin/modprobe --use-blacklist pci:v00008086d000027DAsv00001043sd00008179bc0Csc05i00 1540 ? S< 0:00 /bin/sh -c while read id; do /sbin/modprobe --use-blacklist pnp:d$id; done < /sys/devices/pnp0/00:06/id |
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| 22:23.11 | `Abo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.22 | `Abo | I never saw them, only now after I changed my motherboard |
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| 22:24.43 | superjoe | whoever broke network-manager-gnome is a dick |
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| 22:27.16 | mischief | superjoe, use wicd ^^ |
| 22:27.16 | lolufail | w00t, I finally made a GMRL usb stick :D |
| 22:27.22 | lolufail | grml* |
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| 22:30.04 | pindemon | hello everybody |
| 22:30.16 | superjoe | mischief: dbus.exceptinos.DBUsException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.wicd.daemon was not provide by any .service files |
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| 22:30.34 | pindemon | I need help about patching a kernel... |
| 22:30.49 | pindemon | I have 3 files... one the entire kernel source and 2 diff.gz files |
| 22:30.50 | mischief | superjoe, that's odd :o |
| 22:31.05 | pindemon | how do I correctly patch the kernel source? |
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| 22:31.29 | mischief | pindemon, if you don't know how to patch a tree, perhaps you should not be patching a kernel |
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| 22:31.54 | pindemon | well.. If I go deeper in details |
| 22:32.03 | pindemon | I've installed debian on the openmoko freerunner |
| 22:32.12 | pindemon | and now I need to compile some drives |
| 22:32.17 | pindemon | thus I need the kernel source |
| 22:32.24 | pindemon | and I've found it |
| 22:32.38 | pindemon | but it comes with two diffs |
| 22:32.42 | pindemon | that I shoul apply |
| 22:32.45 | pindemon | *should |
| 22:33.11 | superjoe | pindemon: I don't know what you're talking about. just sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 22:33.17 | kasimon1 | Hi! I maintain some in-house software as debian packages and have to provide packages for etch and lenny. What is the recommended way to organize the source package? Separate Source packages for each distro? git-buildpackage branches? or should I just throw the same source package into different pbuilders and ignore the wrong distribution in the changes file? |
| 22:33.22 | `Abo | does anyone has any idea about these? http://www.pastebin.ca/1468114 |
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| 22:37.15 | `Abo | ? |
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| 22:44.49 | octoserver | i just did an upgrade, and now my terminal sessions applet for kde3 is gone, anyone know what package it is in ? |
| 22:46.04 | adb | upgrade to ? |
| 22:46.12 | octoserver | jsut safe-update |
| 22:46.22 | adb | to ? |
| 22:46.39 | octoserver | i think it replaced my konsole for the kde4 one and now i dont have terminal sessions applet |
| 22:46.42 | adb | woody ? |
| 22:46.56 | octoserver | same as i am now, |
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| 22:47.01 | octoserver | i didnt change the repos |
| 22:47.12 | octoserver | i think I am using testing |
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| 22:47.34 | octoserver | yea, all testing |
| 22:47.47 | adb | judd: versions kde |
| 22:47.48 | judd | adb: kde -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 |
| 22:47.56 | adb | judd: versions kde3 |
| 22:47.57 | judd | adb: kde3 -- |
| 22:48.02 | adb | judd: versions kde4 |
| 22:48.02 | judd | adb: kde4 -- experimental: 4 |
| 22:49.07 | octoserver | ;) |
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| 22:50.11 | Maveas | Does sshd keep a list of connected clients? |
| 22:51.45 | karsten | Maveas: Try netstat |
| 22:52.02 | karsten | Maveas: Not afaik though. |
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| 22:52.12 | Maveas | like a log? |
| 22:52.17 | Maveas | not netstat |
| 22:52.20 | karsten | Maveas: /var/log/auth.log |
| 22:52.26 | Maveas | Thanks ;) |
| 22:52.33 | karsten | Maveas: Will show approved / failed connection attempts. |
| 22:53.01 | Maveas | How about dd wrt? |
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| 22:53.13 | karsten | Maveas: For failed connections, the username may not be shown, if not in /etc/passwd, to protect password/username fsckups. Not positive of that. |
| 22:53.19 | karsten | Maveas: ?? |
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| 22:54.18 | karsten | Maveas: I *think* that ssh shows the username as that's passed seperately from the password. getty login failures conceal as sometimes users confuse passwd/user prompts. |
| 22:54.28 | karsten | That's a controllable paremeter somwhere, though I forget just where. |
| 22:55.35 | Maveas | For failed and succesful logins? |
| 22:55.54 | karsten | Maveas: Sec... |
| 22:56.12 | karsten | Maveas: What specifically are you looking for? |
| 22:56.28 | Niklas- | Anyone got a link or some info on how to build a Xen dom0 kernel package with make-kpkg? |
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| 22:56.55 | karsten | Maveas: Generally: http://www.nic.com/~dave/SecurityAdminGuide/SecurityAdminGuide-5.html |
| 22:56.59 | Maveas | Users whom have tried to log in |
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| 22:57.55 | karsten | Maveas: To what end? |
| 22:58.06 | karsten | Maveas: Audit? Automatic IP blocking? Idle curiosity? |
| 22:58.29 | Maveas | Audit and then blocking maybe.. |
| 22:58.49 | karsten | !fail2ban |
| 22:58.49 | dpkg | fail2ban is a small python program that runs rules when people fail to logon after a certain number of tries. By default it works with <ssh> and <iptables>, but can be extended to whatever authentication and access denial system you're using. Also ask me about <denyhosts> and <iptables ssh filter>. |
| 22:59.07 | Maveas | Oh! That's nice ^^ |
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| 22:59.17 | Maveas | Thanks man :D |
| 22:59.20 | karsten | Maveas: /var/log/auth.log is your primary data source. fail2ban automates the blocking process. Careful you don't DoS yourself though. |
| 22:59.29 | Maveas | :D |
| 22:59.35 | Maveas | Just what I was looking for |
| 22:59.39 | karsten | :) |
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| 23:00.37 | Maveas | Does it also work with a sshd which only accepts rsa keys? |
| 23:01.54 | Maveas | Man, I need to learn how to manage iptables.. |
| 23:02.02 | Maveas | !iptables |
| 23:02.02 | dpkg | hmm... iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables (irc.freenode.net) for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read http://www.howtoforge.com/node/450 |
| 23:02.05 | sdd-dlt | hi everyone, I have a problem with installing a custom kernel with dpkg. It tells me there's a symlink to /lib/modules/2.6.26/{bin,source}. |
| 23:03.24 | Maveas | Well, that's it for today. Sleep tight |
| 23:03.24 | sdd-dlt | dpkg can't read the link because the directory isn't there (compilation was on different machine) |
| 23:03.24 | dpkg | You are moron #1, sdd-dlt |
| 23:03.24 | sdd-dlt | wtf?! lol |
| 23:03.33 | TbbW | anyone got a link to a exim4 guide with mysql for accounting ? (lenny) |
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| 23:05.13 | `Abo | back, another major problem, nothing is running on the server where I changed the motherboard but: Load Averages 3.04 3.10 3.09 |
| 23:05.19 | `Abo | and they dont seem to go lower |
| 23:06.48 | `Abo | any idea? |
| 23:07.17 | TbbW | Abo: anything that sticks out as a resource hog in top or htop ? |
| 23:07.49 | `Abo | TbbW its exactly what it was before but the load averages are way too high |
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| 23:08.02 | mischief | htop ftw :> |
| 23:08.13 | `Abo | not to mention that before I used a pentium dual core @ 3ghz and now it has an core 2 duo e8400 @ 3ghz |
| 23:08.22 | `Abo | so it should definetly not be higher than before.. |
| 23:08.25 | `Abo | and more ram .. :) |
| 23:08.54 | `Abo | its just the same hdd, cpu/motherboard/ram different than before |
| 23:08.57 | `Abo | but much better |
| 23:08.59 | TbbW | mjeah but is there something that uses alot of cpu ? |
| 23:09.07 | `Abo | no |
| 23:09.36 | `Abo | wtf its a counter-strike server or two |
| 23:09.40 | `Abo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.55 | `Abo | now its: 02:09:49 up 1:09, 1 user, load average: 5.86, 3.84, 3.34 |
| 23:09.57 | TbbW | Abo: Terrorist wins! |
| 23:10.14 | `Abo | wtf, before it wasnt going so high with the same processes running |
| 23:10.15 | `Abo | .. |
| 23:10.55 | TbbW | iirc the hl servers benchmarked at install so they run properly on the current hardware |
| 23:11.28 | `Abo | well wtf all hardware is much better now and the averages are much higher? |
| 23:11.32 | `Abo | shouldnt be lower? |
| 23:11.42 | `Abo | thats why I upgraded!! |
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| 23:12.03 | TbbW | the cpu has still changed abit, i know a L4D server running on one of my servers benchmark itself when it |
| 23:12.13 | TbbW | 's started and hog alot of cpu for a few seconds |
| 23:12.53 | `Abo | well the cpu is now 3-4 times better |
| 23:13.08 | TbbW | does the server use more then one core ? |
| 23:13.17 | TbbW | the hl server that is |
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| 23:13.58 | `Abo | here is the first line from top |
| 23:13.58 | `Abo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.14 | octoserver | is kopete kde3 gone from the testing repos ? |
| 23:14.14 | `Abo | how the heck can I find out how many cores the server uses? |
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| 23:15.06 | craigevil | octoserver: testing has kde4 |
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| 23:16.29 | octoserver | craigevil: there is no kde3 stuff in testing anymore? maybe i should just start using kde4 on here? |
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| 23:17.19 | `Abo | 02:17:09 up 1:17, 1 user, load average: 3.23, 3.31, 3.26 |
| 23:17.23 | `Abo | I will stop all servers |
| 23:17.25 | `Abo | to see |
| 23:17.39 | craigevil | octoserver: no clue i gave up on kde4 and went to using LXDE, try using pidgin rather than kopete |
| 23:18.05 | octoserver | yea, i was just about to do that lol |
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| 23:18.28 | octoserver | craigevil: i have kde4 running on suse and it is good to go, havent tryed here in debian yet |
| 23:18.56 | octoserver | craigevil: kde4.2 and up is good |
| 23:19.03 | craigevil | octoserver: if you want all of kde4 you will probably need to use sid |
| 23:20.11 | octoserver | craigevil: then why are they taking kde3 apert in testing if they dont have all of kde4 in testing. Sounds like I can run half of kde3 and half of kde4 in testing .? lol |
| 23:21.06 | octoserver | craigevil: it seems a bunch of kde3 aps are disapearing from testing repos hmmm |
| 23:21.07 | craigevil | octoserver: i have a few apps from both mostly kde3 games, kde4 is in testing |
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| 23:23.50 | `Abo | TbbW, it doesnt go under 3. |
| 23:23.54 | `Abo | no matter if stop the server |
| 23:23.57 | `Abo | servers* |
| 23:24.00 | `Abo | wtf is wrong with it |
| 23:24.07 | `Abo | I also see these processes but not on top |
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| 23:24.16 | `Abo | http://www.pastebin.ca/1468114 |
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| 23:30.00 | jj3666 | just upgraded to squeeze... now if i try to add gnome-desktop-environment it is asking to remove network-manager? |
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| 23:31.53 | octoserver | what the heck do i need to do to play avi or h264 ? |
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| 23:33.26 | jj3666 | octoserve, repo debian-multimedia.org, just go there for directions |
| 23:33.27 | Zambezi | Anyone with ATI and dual monitor in Squeeze? Can you activate big desktop in amdcccle? Cause I can't disabled. Worked in Lenny. |
| 23:33.57 | jj3666 | octoserve, then search for ugly and bad codecs |
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| 23:34.45 | jj3666 | zambezi, a friend of mine has the same complaint, let me see if i can IM him to see if he has found soln |
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| 23:35.11 | dto | reynard: hi. |
| 23:35.14 | jj3666 | zambezi, sorry hes not at keys... maybe later |
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| 23:36.59 | reynard | dto: sorry, I didn't mean to ask you to join #debian. I accidentaly typed your name. |
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| 23:37.11 | Zambezi | jj3666: I'll stick around. And you can also mention if fglrx is activated Fx gives you a bonus when you scroll. Like a curtain slowly going from top to bottom. |
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| 23:37.49 | jj3666 | Zambezi, sure |
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| 23:39.31 | Dracie | what is the package name for urxvt in lenny? |
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| 23:39.41 | Zambezi | jj3666: Should we open a query so you remeber to tell later? |
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| 23:41.49 | dto | reynard: haha! |
| 23:41.55 | dto | i'll stay anyway. |
| 23:41.58 | dto | even though i use ubuntu now. |
| 23:42.27 | reynard | see |
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| 23:50.14 | masterkernel | Hello, I am currently looking for a sponsor for my program, kernelcheck. It can automatically build any 2.6 kernel from source and install it via dpkg. It is listed on mentors.debian.net. |
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| 23:51.37 | Lustra | How do I change root sql pass if I've forgotten it? |
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| 23:52.34 | masterkernel | Lustra: /etc/init.d/mysql reset-password |
| 23:52.43 | Lustra | thanks |
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| 23:53.00 | masterkernel | Lustra: at least on Ubuntu :) |
| 23:53.08 | Lustra | Ah it's not on here |
| 23:53.32 | digitalfox | I'm building a kernel using make-kpkg, and dpkg-deb is spinning at 100% CPU, and atop seems to indicate it is writing /something./ It is running in a 32 bit chroot. Doing the same thing on my "real" 64 bit system, it completes in a reasonable amount of time. |
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| 23:54.33 | gasull | Lustra, maybe some of these tools can help you: http://repo.offensive-security.com/dist/bt4 |
| 23:54.38 | masterkernel | Lustra: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/265020#265020 |
| 23:54.40 | digitalfox | But leaving it alone for a few minutes and it still hasn't completed, nor has it written out any sizable amount of data to the file. |
| 23:54.42 | Lustra | Thanks |
| 23:54.58 | digitalfox | I found a thread that describes the same issue, but I'm not quite sure how his fix works. |
| 23:55.15 | digitalfox | that is, I don't know how make-kpkg is calling dpkg-deb, so I don't know how to enter the -z3 option |
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| 23:56.53 | dalias | how do i get the new archive key? |
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| 23:58.09 | ewet | hi, which sites do you use to find out more about your hardware? I need specific info for my DELL 0RY206 mainboard (ata controller) |
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| 23:58.21 | TbbW | dalias: rememberd it whas something like apt-get key-add or simular |
| 23:58.28 | digitalfox | apt-key |
| 23:58.37 | TbbW | google: apt-get key-add should help you :) |
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