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| 00:07.46 | schoppenhauer | hello. my bluetooth-stick (0a12:0001) doesnt work under debian sid, kernel 2.6.29-2-amd64 and i386. It is recognized (I can see it in dmesg and lsusb), but kbluetooth doesnt notice it, and sais, it was not there. according to /proc/bus/usb/devices, it is loaded by the driver "btusb" - in the past, that was hci_usb afaik. I found http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c - seems like btusb is ignoring that vendor. |
| 00:07.47 | schoppenhauer | Actually this seems like a common problem, I have found many posts about it, but no solution yet. Any suggestions? |
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| 00:09.24 | mezod | schopenhauer is with one p :p |
| 00:09.36 | schoppenhauer | no |
| 00:09.40 | schoppenhauer | its two p's |
| 00:09.49 | schoppenhauer | depending on which schop*enhauer you mean |
| 00:10.12 | schoppenhauer | (but actually ... every time I come to that channel thats the first thing I am told) |
| 00:10.34 | mezod | hehe |
| 00:10.40 | nsadmin | emmadentally, he means the schop*enhauer with one p! |
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| 00:10.47 | mezod | which schoppenhauer do you mean then? |
| 00:10.54 | schoppenhauer | mezod: myself |
| 00:11.11 | schoppenhauer | mezod: its a mixture of "schottenhauer" and "schopenhauer" actually. |
| 00:11.21 | schoppenhauer | but anyway ... i need my bluetooth-stick work :( |
| 00:11.25 | mezod | ah i see |
| 00:11.38 | mezod | cant help you, sorry |
| 00:11.55 | schoppenhauer | so far I used my windows vista inside a virtualbox ... but vbox doesnt work anymore somehow ... |
| 00:11.57 | nsadmin | has this device ever worked? |
| 00:12.11 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: yes ... with no problem |
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| 00:12.18 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: out of the box. |
| 00:12.22 | nsadmin | in what contexts? |
| 00:12.29 | Dracie | schoppenhauer: vbox_drv module loaded? |
| 00:12.30 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: kbluetooth |
| 00:12.37 | schoppenhauer | Dracie: yes |
| 00:12.45 | nsadmin | so, under a linux |
| 00:12.48 | schoppenhauer | yes ^^ |
| 00:12.50 | nsadmin | that's hopeful |
| 00:12.53 | Dracie | does it say errors? |
| 00:13.17 | nsadmin | I bet it thinks it |
| 00:13.27 | nsadmin | s only one p too! |
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| 00:13.59 | schoppenhauer | Dracie: RTR3Init failed with rc=-1912 (rc=-1912) sais virtualbox |
| 00:14.14 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: do you have any ideas? |
| 00:14.30 | Dracie | schoppenhauer: no idea =\ |
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| 00:15.06 | schoppenhauer | i always get so angry when kernel-developers drop working modules, replacing them by non-working ones ... |
| 00:15.10 | nsadmin | no specific ones, but I'm wondering about the exact linux context under which the device worked, specifically kernel version and driver version |
| 00:15.22 | schoppenhauer | lets see ... |
| 00:15.42 | nsadmin | and do you still have the kernel that was working installed and bootable?\ |
| 00:15.49 | schoppenhauer | no |
| 00:15.54 | nsadmin | ok |
| 00:15.59 | schoppenhauer | actually I didnt notice it early enough |
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| 00:16.24 | nsadmin | what exactly did you change recently? |
| 00:16.43 | schoppenhauer | and well ... with this new kernel, at least nouveau (nvidia-driver) works, because "nv" is a pain and "nvidia" (the original driver) freezes the system... |
| 00:16.51 | schoppenhauer | I installed the new kernel-package |
| 00:16.56 | schoppenhauer | and uninstalled old ones |
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| 00:17.08 | schoppenhauer | I think the old ones were 24 and 18 |
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| 00:17.17 | eternalsin_ | hi everyone |
| 00:17.26 | nsadmin | I wonder if you can get the new nvidia working in the old kernel |
| 00:17.36 | nsadmin | was that the only reason for upgrade? |
| 00:17.58 | nsadmin | are you running etch? lenny? |
| 00:18.04 | schoppenhauer | sid |
| 00:18.18 | schoppenhauer | that was the reason |
| 00:18.21 | nsadmin | oh geez :) all bets are off :) |
| 00:18.26 | schoppenhauer | and the reason why I use sid ... |
| 00:18.30 | schoppenhauer | (yes, there is one) |
| 00:18.31 | nsadmin | but we can keep exploring |
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| 00:18.56 | schoppenhauer | is that testing hasnt many packages stable has, as well as unstable has ... but testing hasnt got them ... |
| 00:19.12 | nsadmin | did you build this nvidia driver? or just install its package? |
| 00:19.21 | schoppenhauer | build |
| 00:19.33 | nsadmin | hmm, that's also hopeful |
| 00:19.35 | schoppenhauer | there are no precompiled ones afaik |
| 00:19.48 | Kazuha | Well, no *recent* precompiled ones. |
| 00:19.58 | nsadmin | -perhaps- you can build that one under an older kernel |
| 00:20.04 | schoppenhauer | the old precompiled ones did never work ^^ |
| 00:20.14 | Kazuha | I think 2.6.18 or 2.6.17 has a precompiled one. |
| 00:20.14 | nsadmin | can you switch to nv temporarily while you get this workign? |
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| 00:20.49 | schoppenhauer | well, I would have to install nv and reconfigure my x-server ... i can do that but it usually takes a lot of time (in which my computer freezes at least 3 times) |
| 00:21.14 | schoppenhauer | but ok, actually ... I could downgrade the kernel ... |
| 00:21.21 | schoppenhauer | you are right |
| 00:21.36 | nsadmin | what I'm hoping is we can find a kernel with a good driver for your bluetooth and build the nvidia driver for the other kernel |
| 00:21.58 | Kazuha | Uhm, the 2.6.18 kernel had poor support for some of my hardware, IIRC. |
| 00:22.02 | nsadmin | you havent' found anything online about this particular problem? didn't you say it seems a common one? |
| 00:22.16 | schoppenhauer | yes |
| 00:22.17 | schoppenhauer | it seems |
| 00:22.36 | schoppenhauer | and according to http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c my device _should_ be ignored by btusb |
| 00:22.54 | schoppenhauer | and in earlier kernels, the module handling it was called hci_usb |
| 00:22.58 | nsadmin | what else can you use? |
| 00:23.30 | schoppenhauer | i dont know |
| 00:24.24 | schoppenhauer | and I couldnt find a solution ... it seems to be a kernel-bug ... hm ... when downgrading the kernel ... what would be a good choice? |
| 00:24.29 | schoppenhauer | whats in "testing" at the moment? |
| 00:24.50 | Kazuha | 2.6.26-2-amd64 -- that's what I'm using. |
| 00:25.11 | schoppenhauer | ah ok ... |
| 00:25.34 | nsadmin | I thought nv was included in the xorg server package |
| 00:26.11 | Kazuha | And I think this is the nVidia binary blob I'm using: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.80-pkg2.run |
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| 00:27.05 | Kazuha | (Why I say "I think" is because sometimes the 'newest' binary blobs don't work all that well. |
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| 00:27.24 | Kazuha | And so I may have ended up using an older one.) |
| 00:27.53 | Carepolice | Hi |
| 00:29.10 | nsadmin | schoppenhauer so nvidia was the -only- reason for upgrading kernel? |
| 00:29.27 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: yes. |
| 00:29.51 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: but well, I can live with that (since it isnt working too - nouveau is working ... but not nvidia) |
| 00:30.00 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: I hope they will fix it soon |
| 00:30.02 | nsadmin | so I'd say the path I marked is at least worth a shot |
| 00:30.10 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: yes. |
| 00:30.13 | schoppenhauer | nsadmin: thank you. |
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| 00:30.36 | schoppenhauer | (well, I could have thought of that myself, sorry for getting on your nerves with it ^^) |
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| 00:31.33 | nsadmin | I would recommend also contacting some of the authors of the articles you read that say they were having problems and ask them to bring you up to date about their current status |
| 00:31.50 | schoppenhauer | ok. |
| 00:32.00 | nsadmin | you weren't on my nerves |
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| 00:36.18 | andash | hi guys, i was just wondering if anyone by any chance has installed uzbl on squeeze? i've tried a bit but can't get it in order |
| 00:37.05 | gaintsura | whats the name of the application that does the package updating via GUI? |
| 00:37.19 | andash | gaintsura: i think that would be synaptic |
| 00:37.28 | gaintsura | andash: thats to install new packages |
| 00:37.43 | gaintsura | and remove, etc. |
| 00:37.44 | klbate | update-notifier? |
| 00:37.46 | andash | gaintsura: oh sorry, i thought you meant that |
| 00:38.05 | gaintsura | klbate: hm, nope, not that one... on the right track though... |
| 00:38.10 | andash | kind of just to people being a bit vague i suppose, like me! |
| 00:38.16 | gaintsura | lol |
| 00:38.17 | andash | used* |
| 00:38.41 | andash | err.. |
| 00:38.43 | gaintsura | bah, I'll do it via cmd |
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| 00:39.36 | gaintsura | I has no sys tray anymore, makes it hard to know when I have updates |
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| 00:42.05 | Zyferus | naw, just aptitude update/patitude upgrade |
| 00:42.25 | Zyferus | gui notifications are overrated |
| 00:42.42 | klbate | If you use Testing you _always_ have new upgrades available. |
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| 00:42.57 | klbate | So the GUI thing becomes a bit redundant. |
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| 01:01.20 | cobra-the-joker | How can i execute a pi script ??? |
| 01:03.08 | adb | ./pi ? |
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| 01:04.14 | cobra-the-joker | adb ... .py* |
| 01:04.25 | cobra-the-joker | i think it is a python script |
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| 01:04.45 | kgoetz | python script.py |
| 01:04.55 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
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| 01:09.06 | mesa_booger | cobra-the-joker: if it has the right magic in the first line, and is mode 755 or somesuch, you can just run it directly |
| 01:09.22 | cobra-the-joker | i made a chmod +x on it ....but i cant make a ./script.py on it |
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| 01:10.24 | xor | buenas noches |
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| 01:10.56 | n-iCe | What's new in the last Debian release? |
| 01:10.59 | n-iCe | testing* |
| 01:11.09 | abrotman | it's not been released, and it keeps changing |
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| 01:11.30 | n-iCe | becuase I was using the testing one, but now looks stable |
| 01:11.38 | n-iCe | How could I change to the testing back? |
| 01:11.48 | abrotman | what were you using before? |
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| 01:11.59 | n-iCe | lenny |
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| 01:12.10 | abrotman | so what's wrong with using lenny? |
| 01:12.10 | n-iCe | now is squeeze or something like that the lastest, right? |
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| 01:12.20 | mesa_booger | cobra-the-joker: first line of script has to be #!/usr/bin/python |
| 01:12.26 | n-iCe | nothing, I just like using the lastest |
| 01:12.40 | cobra-the-joker | mesa_booger , ok |
| 01:13.11 | xor | are there any chanel for debian on spanish? |
| 01:13.13 | mesa_booger | cobra-the-joker: or wherever your python interpreter lives. "which python" will tell you |
| 01:13.18 | abrotman | xor: #debian-es |
| 01:13.19 | n-iCe | xor #debian-es |
| 01:13.40 | n-iCe | abrotman is it bad? |
| 01:13.44 | xor | thanks a lot for all |
| 01:13.51 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
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| 01:26.25 | phorce1 | well that's just odd. I don't see anything that's been remounted 'ro' |
| 01:26.27 | phorce1 | updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db' |
| 01:26.38 | smacnay | Anyone have a solution for moving an evolution addressbook to icedove/thunderbird? |
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| 01:32.45 | DynamicPink | For some unknown reason; my home folder opens when I log into Gnome. I have tried closing it and saving the session, but it still opens. Any suggestions? |
| 01:33.44 | phorce1 | smacnay: does evolution let you export to .csv? |
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| 01:35.29 | smacnay | phorce1, no, not that I am aware. |
| 01:36.16 | phorce1 | smacnay: http://ryandaigle.com/articles/2006/5/16/exporting-evolution-contacts-to-thunderbird |
| 01:36.25 | smacnay | phorce1, thanks |
| 01:36.47 | phorce1 | smacnay: google is your friend |
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| 01:37.49 | smacnay | phorce1, you out-googled me - I was looking for thunderbird plugins or extensions to import vcard. |
| 01:38.58 | phorce1 | You could have this going on: |
| 01:39.01 | phorce1 | [3521276.016977] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 4294967295, count = 1 |
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| 01:39.51 | phorce1 | just lucky I had an Iceweasel up and running, I can't open anything else right now |
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| 01:45.05 | DeathWolf | I get an "error 16 inconsistent filesystem structure" from grub, but when checking with a livecd, the fs is perfectly clean. |
| 01:45.17 | DeathWolf | (forced clean multiple times, no change) |
| 01:45.21 | _Lucretia__ | anyone know how to convert a large pdf into another pdf which has the large pdf split into A4 pages? no scaling, no cropping, etc. |
| 01:45.23 | DeathWolf | Any ideas? |
| 01:45.38 | DeathWolf | _Lucretia__: pdf2ps & psnup? |
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| 01:46.00 | _Lucretia__ | DeathWolf: psnup will print multiple pages onto a page |
| 01:48.21 | DeathWolf | Sorry, misread. |
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| 01:52.23 | abrotman | _Lucretia__: pdftk maybe? never tried to do what you are doing |
| 01:52.34 | _Lucretia__ | nope |
| 01:52.34 | kisisten | how do i install kde on sqeeze? |
| 01:52.52 | _Lucretia__ | abrotman: I've checked the manpage, no |
| 01:52.57 | abrotman | ok |
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| 01:53.05 | _Lucretia__ | i dunno if there is a better channel to ask |
| 01:54.28 | bjk | _Lucretia__, ghostscript? |
| 01:54.35 | _Lucretia__ | but how? |
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| 01:55.25 | bjk | -sPAPERSIZE? i'm only looking at the manpage. |
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| 01:56.20 | c-monkey | <c-monkey> does anyone know if a 32 bit PAE kernel is available stock for debian, without compiling from kernel sources .... i have a debian user that im trying to help ? |
| 01:56.20 | c-monkey | <c-monkey> he has a P4 3.0GHz Dell thats only showing 3.5GB of 4GB ram |
| 01:56.34 | _Lucretia__ | bjk: that'll just scale it |
| 01:56.38 | abrotman | c-monkey: install the -bigmem kernels |
| 01:56.58 | abrotman | _Lucretia__: you're trying to put two PDFs letter pages on one a4 page ? |
| 01:57.03 | c-monkey | abrotman, alright ... that should be enough info for him ... thanks ;) |
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| 01:57.25 | _Lucretia__ | abrotman: no, trying to split 1 large pdf into multiple a4 pages (can all go into 1 pdf tho) |
| 01:57.32 | _Lucretia__ | 1 large pdf = 1 large page |
| 01:57.44 | _Lucretia__ | a4 page must be a portion of the larger page |
| 01:57.55 | DeathWolf | oh and the error 16 appears after initrd here |
| 01:57.56 | abrotman | _Lucretia__: so you want one PDF per one page of the PDF ? |
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| 01:58.00 | DeathWolf | the file does seem fine though |
| 01:58.04 | _Lucretia__ | abrotman: no |
| 01:58.12 | MadMoney | <jack_thompson> how do i install an rpm on ubuntu? |
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| 01:58.46 | _Lucretia__ | abrotman: 1 large pdf containing 1 page (a blueprint), i don't want it scaling, i don't want it cropping, i just want to convert it into a doc (pdf) with a4 pages, i.e. the larger one split into a4 |
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| 01:59.06 | jpinx-eeepc | MadMoney: tell jack_thompson to try #ubuntu |
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| 01:59.43 | abrotman | _Lucretia__: so roughly .. you'd like it split up? |
| 02:00.08 | _Lucretia__ | i.e. if the page is a3, then i'd like a pdf containing 2 a4's |
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| 02:00.34 | jmoncayo | hey guys, anyone here has installed sun virtualbox? i am having trouble to use my usb devices when running the virtual machine as regular user, i added myself to the vboxusers group |
| 02:00.56 | _Lucretia__ | jmoncayo: usb is a new feature iirc |
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| 02:01.35 | jpinx-eeepc | jmoncayo: try the guys in #vbox |
| 02:01.43 | jmoncayo | thanks |
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| 02:02.13 | bjk | _Lucretia__, dunno then. sorry |
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| 02:04.13 | _Lucretia__ | ok, thanks |
| 02:07.59 | ajavid | hello |
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| 02:11.47 | gentooer | hi, is there a separate channel for debian on arm architecture? |
| 02:12.25 | abrotman | there is an arm channel on OFTC i beleieve |
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| 02:13.38 | smacnay | jmoncayo, you need the version from sun, if I recall. I think the OSE version in deb does not support usb devices. |
| 02:13.47 | alexbodn | hello friends. |
| 02:14.02 | gentooer | thanks |
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| 02:15.51 | abrotman | gentooer: did you find it? |
| 02:16.00 | gentooer | yes |
| 02:16.54 | alexbodn | after some upgrade i couldn't connect with svn over http[s]?. as a workaround i changed the http-library in ~/.subversion/server to serf, but this doeesn't work everywhere. a bug has been submitted. any idea? |
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| 02:27.36 | jmoncayo | smacnay: i have that version installed, but i can use usb devices only when i run the virtualbox as root |
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| 02:28.07 | smacnay | jmoncayo, not sure then, sorry |
| 02:28.38 | jmoncayo | thanks anyways |
| 02:28.38 | jmoncayo | :) |
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| 02:34.26 | oh_noes | is it possible to software simulate a remove/plug in of a USB device? |
| 02:35.53 | MontelEdwards | .leave #debian |
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| 02:36.26 | superlinux | hi |
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| 02:37.02 | superlinux | is there a way to downgrade my system to latest stable? |
| 02:37.08 | superlinux | is there a way to downgrade my system to latest stable debian? |
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| 02:37.54 | ManicMonkey | Hey guys, I'm trying to fresh install apache2, but apt-get remove doesn't seem to delete the configs and such, and then apt-get install after that keeps the old config, how can I force it to refresh it all? |
| 02:38.30 | abrotman | wrong method, wrong package |
| 02:39.06 | ManicMonkey | Ok... what should I be doing then? |
| 02:39.09 | ajavid | abrotman, hi |
| 02:39.26 | ajavid | abrotman, I finally was able to accomplish what I had set out to do |
| 02:39.30 | superlinux | abrotman: ajavid hi |
| 02:40.00 | ajavid | abrotman, debian stable, 2.6.29, xorg 7.4 free 3d radeon, python2.6 |
| 02:40.06 | superlinux | is there a way to go back to stable from testing? |
| 02:40.06 | ajavid | I think that was about it |
| 02:40.11 | ajavid | oh and the kde3.5 |
| 02:40.18 | abrotman | ajavid: what? no kde73.32 ? |
| 02:40.32 | abrotman | ManicMonkey: purge, apache2-common |
| 02:40.37 | ajavid | hehe no |
| 02:41.52 | ManicMonkey | abrotman, ahhhh thank you |
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| 02:47.17 | superlinux | guys? |
| 02:47.28 | abrotman | no |
| 02:47.40 | superlinux | no way at all? |
| 02:48.02 | superlinux | may be it looks rude but i really did not get you |
| 02:48.09 | abrotman | nothing reliable or 100% |
| 02:48.27 | superlinux | ok |
| 02:48.49 | superlinux | cos my X windows hangs too much |
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| 02:49.48 | superlinux | i am using testing |
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| 02:50.56 | adb | a superlinux user screen instead any X windows |
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| 02:51.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:53.08 | superlinux | ok |
| 02:53.31 | ajavid | adb, did you ever get your stuff compiled? |
| 02:53.42 | adb | no |
| 02:54.03 | ajavid | uhm |
| 02:54.09 | ajavid | why do custom build packages show up as lenny source? |
| 02:54.14 | adb | ihe want sid , so i come back to lenny |
| 02:54.20 | ajavid | http://paste.debian.net/39880/ |
| 02:54.30 | ajavid | I don't get it... |
| 02:54.59 | ajavid | im gonna have to read apt-chae policy thingy manpage thingy i dunno wtf 100 500 means any of that |
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| 02:56.10 | adb | 100 local status location ; 500 remote ... |
| 02:56.33 | ajavid | what else did i build |
| 02:56.35 | ajavid | hmm |
| 02:56.40 | ajavid | let see python2.6 |
| 02:57.01 | oh_noes | Anyone know how to remove a USB Device at the command line? Its a USB modem and I've removed it's driver but it still has power. I was hoping to be "simulate" pullling it out and plugging it back in |
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| 02:57.24 | baobao_ | i heard that debian does not like ff trademark? |
| 02:57.37 | ajavid | http://paste.debian.net/39881/ |
| 02:57.48 | abrotman | !why iceweasel |
| 02:57.48 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 02:57.50 | ajavid | adb, see this? same thing for that, shouldn't be |
| 02:57.51 | ajavid | ohhhh |
| 02:57.55 | ajavid | I know why |
| 02:57.58 | adb | yes |
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| 02:58.19 | ajavid | its I think because I used the same build config from experimetnal 2.6 python, and sid 7.4 xorg scripts |
| 02:58.34 | ajavid | 500 shows up for both adn it shouldn't |
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| 02:59.00 | ajavid | but its alright, apt-cache showsrc reveals teh truth! |
| 02:59.43 | gasull | Hi all. Just installed PostgreSQL and I got this error running psql as user postgres: http://dpaste.com/58114/ |
| 03:00.03 | adb | ajavid: because thats was compiled for "lenny" |
| 03:00.06 | gasull | What am I missing? Thank you |
| 03:00.15 | ajavid | btw, I get errors on mysql upon bootup, it says root and maint-sys something can't access mysql using password yes |
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| 03:00.54 | ajavid | what are the mysql-maint whatever default debian pasword, how do i fix that |
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| 03:01.42 | phorce1 | inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list were found. Fix? Ouch, corrupted AND oprhaned. ;-) |
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| 03:02.52 | gasull | I can't run psql either as root nor postgres user. I did started the server. What can be wrong? Thank you. |
| 03:03.15 | ajavid | yeh, when i first build xorg 7.4 on stable with 3d, it was good, until I jhad to restart X, and that caused a total system lockup, and when I came up, half mykde settings were gone, some of my docs were gone |
| 03:03.23 | ajavid | I dunno wtf happened, ext4 FS |
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| 03:04.21 | ajavid | but its been fine now I dunno, hasn't crashed or nothing, glxgears performs qutie well, as do the games and stuff |
| 03:04.40 | gasull | sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 status doesn't return anything |
| 03:04.41 | ajavid | the only thing is, nothing except gl/gl2 output mode in mplayer work (under copmiz) |
| 03:04.46 | phorce1 | ajavid: try dpkg-reconfigure (whatever the mysql package name is) |
| 03:04.54 | ajavid | phorce1, uhuh |
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| 03:06.14 | ajavid | dpkg-reconfigure mysql-common didn't do jack shit |
| 03:06.14 | phorce1 | ajavid: my / filesystem on my main debian box is getting an fsck right now so I can't look without going over and opening up the server rack |
| 03:06.14 | ajavid | hm |
| 03:06.24 | ajavid | I wonder wha thappened, I restored my db from another system |
| 03:06.42 | ajavid | after isntall msyql on debian stabl, I dumped the stuff on the other db and restored it here |
| 03:06.50 | ajavid | instead of doing individual dbs, I did full |
| 03:06.58 | ajavid | that probably fucked it up |
| 03:07.15 | oh_noes | Anyone know how to remove a USB Device at the command line? Its a USB modem and I've removed it's driver but it still has power. I was hoping to be "simulate" pullling it out and plugging it back in |
| 03:07.19 | \amethyst | ajavid: you changed the debian-sys-maint password by loading the dump of the mysql database |
| 03:07.22 | ajavid | I get in as root, but nto as sys-maint something |
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| 03:07.44 | phorce1 | ajavid: use dpkg -l|grep mysql and try dpkg-reconfigure on the other mysql packages |
| 03:07.45 | ajavid | \amethyst, thats what I'm thinking, so whats the default one like I asked, I can just calclate its md5 or sha and put that into the table |
| 03:07.49 | ajavid | right? |
| 03:08.06 | ajavid | no |
| 03:08.10 | ajavid | I'm retarded |
| 03:08.26 | gasull | oh_noes: it should be mounted in /media. Do ls /media. Then umount /media/my_usb_whatever |
| 03:08.44 | \amethyst | ajavid: it's in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| 03:08.50 | gasull | oh_noes: You might need sudo umount |
| 03:09.04 | ajavid | fantastic |
| 03:09.05 | ajavid | thanks man |
| 03:09.24 | \amethyst | ajavid: either copy that file from the machine whose database you unloaded, or change the user's password to the one listed in the file |
| 03:09.26 | oh_noes | it's not a disk, it's a modem |
| 03:09.35 | \amethyst | s/unloaded/loaded/ |
| 03:09.36 | ajavid | nah i got it now man |
| 03:09.38 | ajavid | thanks a bunch |
| 03:09.39 | ajavid | you da man |
| 03:09.59 | ajavid | phorce1, thanks man, I apprecaite yoru help |
| 03:10.05 | valan | well this is funny |
| 03:10.09 | valan | !ls |
| 03:10.09 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 03:10.18 | ajavid | :D |
| 03:12.02 | ajavid | btw, bpo 2.6.29 doesn't have the kbuild stuff |
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| 03:12.21 | ajavid | no one can build anything, there is no kernel source tree either I couldn't find wtf is up with that |
| 03:12.46 | ajavid | I had to build .29 myself from source on stable, and I used the config from the the debian website listed for .29 kernel that was gzipped |
| 03:13.03 | adb | ajavid: use ajavid .29 from repos .. |
| 03:13.03 | ajavid | the debian kernel website |
| 03:13.14 | ajavid | I'm on stable |
| 03:13.22 | adb | and ? |
| 03:13.28 | ajavid | I dunno what you mean |
| 03:13.36 | ajavid | there is no .29 in lenny repo |
| 03:14.05 | adb | i do it on lenny and is ok |
| 03:14.10 | adb | done* |
| 03:14.13 | ajavid | chicken fingers are calling me, I'll be back in a few. |
| 03:14.22 | phorce1 | ajavid: I figured it was mysql-client or some such that needed the reconfigure to set the pword |
| 03:14.24 | ajavid | adb, what do you do? just use sid kernel on stable? |
| 03:14.37 | ajavid | thats not good man |
| 03:14.40 | ajavid | anyway, brb |
| 03:14.42 | adb | no .29-bpo |
| 03:15.37 | adb | 2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
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| 03:16.09 | adb | linux-kbuild-2.6.29 |
| 03:16.19 | phorce1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.11 | phorce1 | and spend hours moving /home to a new location so I can ghost / to a smaller (new) drive |
| 03:17.59 | oh_noes | Anyone want to suggest a clean/reliable way to determine is a ppp link is up? |
| 03:18.19 | oh_noes | obviously "ifconfig ppp0", but that will return RC 0 if the link is up but it doesnt have an IP |
| 03:18.31 | oh_noes | (for a script) |
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| 03:21.20 | sylarr | I have put some stuff at /etc/rc.local including touch /tmp/did.rc.local but it isn't done. Anyone knows how to make my /etc/rc.local be executed as it should? |
| 03:21.55 | adb | oh_noes: try #bash |
| 03:22.34 | superlinux | is there a way to turn my desktop to a rough bare Xwindows desktop using apps similar to xcalc? |
| 03:22.48 | oh_noes | adb: I know bash ...Im just lookiing for a deb specific way |
| 03:22.52 | oh_noes | then I'll code it |
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| 03:24.49 | adb | oh_noes: try #bash and ask \amethyst , he use debian |
| 03:25.15 | phorce1 | oh_noes: checcking ppp status is more a general linux thing. There wouldn't be a "debian specific" way. Maybe just try to ping a known host and look for a non-failure return from ping |
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| 03:26.01 | sylarr | superlinux, gnome? |
| 03:27.16 | superlinux | sylarr: no |
| 03:27.32 | superlinux | i want like a very Motif like desktop |
| 03:27.38 | superlinux | very simple |
| 03:27.40 | sylarr | subcritical, xrvt? |
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| 03:30.05 | \amethyst | oh_noes: you want to know if the link is up and has an IP? |
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| 03:30.44 | superlinux | sylarr: maybe |
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| 03:31.06 | superlinux | i be back to check |
| 03:31.35 | superlinux | is drinking soup in a big tea mug |
| 03:31.59 | superlinux | <= new way to have soup |
| 03:31.59 | \amethyst | oh_noes: maybe if [ "$(ip addr show "$IFACE" to 0/0)" ]; then echo "has an IP"; fi |
| 03:32.07 | Polarina | superlinux: Old. |
| 03:32.15 | superlinux | new to me |
| 03:32.19 | \amethyst | oh_noes: but that won't distinguish between a real IP and, e.g., a link-local IP |
| 03:32.36 | \amethyst | oh_noes: you can add scope global to the ip addr show line to make that distinction |
| 03:32.39 | superlinux | we have it with a spoon usually |
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| 03:33.55 | ruddy | anyone now how to undelete something |
| 03:34.06 | ruddy | that you deleted as root |
| 03:34.07 | ruddy | :( |
| 03:34.22 | Arafangion | ruddy: Walk to your backup shelf, retrieve your most recent backup. |
| 03:34.29 | Arafangion | ruddy: And retrieve the file. :) |
| 03:34.37 | ruddy | cmon srsly |
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| 03:35.16 | ruddy | how can there be 890 useles people in one room |
| 03:35.17 | superlinux | sylarr: you told me xvrt? what was the name plz? |
| 03:35.26 | sylarr | superlinux, http://xwinman.org/ |
| 03:35.48 | sylarr | superlinux, that name was the wrong thing |
| 03:35.59 | sylarr | superlinux, kind of confusing names |
| 03:36.06 | superlinux | ok |
| 03:36.10 | sylarr | but fvwm |
| 03:36.17 | superlinux | thanks for the site |
| 03:36.17 | Arafangion | ruddy: You told the computer to delete a file - what did you want it to do - keep it around for you just in case 10 years later you wanted it back? |
| 03:36.20 | sylarr | seem like what u want |
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| 03:36.47 | ruddy | u kno of any recovery tools? |
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| 03:36.55 | ruddy | i though it would go to recycle |
| 03:36.55 | sylarr | superlinux, it seems u want a window manager without a desktop environment |
| 03:37.01 | ruddy | but i'm new to linux and i was root |
| 03:37.06 | superlinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.10 | Arafangion | ruddy: Actually even that concept on windows is misleading. |
| 03:37.11 | valan | what fs ruddy ? |
| 03:37.18 | ruddy | ext4 |
| 03:37.25 | Arafangion | ruddy: Windows might, or might not put it into the recycle bin. |
| 03:37.25 | superlinux | very ten times very bare basic X |
| 03:37.43 | Arafangion | ruddy: And it keeps it there for an unspecified amount of time that you can not assume. |
| 03:37.52 | valan | eh what distro is on ext4 already? am i behind times? |
| 03:37.54 | Arafangion | ruddy: You are best to just archive things. |
| 03:38.08 | superlinux | i remember in FreeBSD earlier versions they used to have |
| 03:38.19 | ruddy | i did actually |
| 03:38.23 | ruddy | its some code i'm writing |
| 03:38.29 | ruddy | i archived about 3 days ago |
| 03:38.35 | Arafangion | ruddy: Don't you use a VCS?!? |
| 03:38.52 | ruddy | usually.. |
| 03:39.14 | superlinux | sylarr: though i have the problem of switching keymap layout |
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| 03:39.42 | valan | eh i'm finding absolutely nothing on ext4 undelete |
| 03:39.47 | superlinux | i mean i will have that problem |
| 03:39.51 | Rusty1 | http://lde.sourceforge.net/ dunno abt ext4 ruddy |
| 03:40.07 | ruddy | actually ext3undel is working right now |
| 03:40.49 | adb | superlinux: apt-cache search lightweight wm |
| 03:41.15 | superlinux | ok |
| 03:41.19 | adb | ' setxkbmap us ' |
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| 03:42.10 | DanDare | just to confirm ... i can have 2 HDD´s, one with Etch, other with Lenny and a grub install in Etch that will let me boot into Lenny without trouble. Is this right ? |
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| 03:42.31 | kgoetz | yes, assuming etchis the hd0 |
| 03:42.38 | Arafangion | DanDare: Yes, unless the BIOS chucks a wobbly. |
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| 03:43.24 | Arafangion | DanDare: Just make sure that both HDD's have a 100MB partition for /boot, to cover your bases. |
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| 03:43.56 | mns | Does anyone know if bridging will work with wireless and DHCP ? |
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| 03:44.25 | Arafangion | mns: Each segment would normally have its own DHCP. |
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| 03:44.56 | DanDare | Arafangion, you mean for the case of BIOS trouble? orelse i could just have all in one mount point ? |
| 03:45.27 | Arafangion | DanDare: Correct, however HDD Space is cheap, just reserve 100MB on each HDD. |
| 03:45.50 | DanDare | the second so because etch is already defined |
| 03:45.51 | Arafangion | DanDare: It's good practice anyway - such a partition is generally mounted read-only, and is very hard to corrupt. :) |
| 03:46.12 | DanDare | nice tought thanks |
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| 03:46.38 | valan | nothing is hard to corrupt! ;) |
| 03:46.46 | Arafangion | valan: Not when you're around. ;) |
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| 03:47.38 | phorce1 | is playing drive swap now because his / partition is throwing errors. /boot is on the same physical drive so ... |
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| 03:50.17 | valan | !love |
| 03:50.17 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 03:50.41 | DanDare | o.O |
| 03:50.42 | ajavid | hahaha iceweasels |
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| 03:53.00 | Arafangion | is obviously too young to understand. |
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| 03:54.17 | adb | ajavid: read above, about kernels + kbuild |
| 03:54.29 | ajavid | yeh |
| 03:54.40 | ajavid | i cant eat anymore anyway |
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| 03:55.31 | ajavid | adb, thanks, its ok anyway, I build a .29 and now I'm gonnna do .30 |
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| 04:01.30 | badboy360 | hello |
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| 04:02.41 | badboy360 | #olpc-meeting |
| 04:03.06 | badboy360 | hello |
| 04:03.57 | phorce1 | speaking of separate /boot. I'm going to try ghosting my current primary drive while it's still working "most of the time". If that fails, how hard is it to do a fresh install and get EXACTLY the same packages installed that I now have so I can just copy /etc over? |
| 04:04.44 | Arafangion | dpkg --get-selections > foo && cat foo | dpkg --set-selections |
| 04:04.44 | dpkg | Arafangion: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 04:04.51 | Arafangion | dpkg: Shut up. |
| 04:04.51 | dpkg | No, I won't, and you can't make me. :P |
| 04:04.56 | badboy360 | hello |
| 04:05.15 | Arafangion | badboy360: It's considered bad practice to privmsg people. |
| 04:05.29 | badboy360 | sorry |
| 04:06.07 | badboy360 | can you help me |
| 04:06.13 | cantido | !ask |
| 04:06.13 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 04:07.08 | badboy360 | can one of you help me get ebian on my xo labtop plz |
| 04:07.31 | badboy360 | bedian |
| 04:07.47 | badboy360 | debian |
| 04:07.47 | cantido | badboy360: have you looked at the wiki (wiki.debian.org).. there are tutorials for installing debian on hardware like that.. |
| 04:08.22 | phorce1 | Arafangion: thanks, now all I have to do is figure out what else has to be copied to avoid having a broken system |
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| 04:08.51 | badboy360 | ok...........but i need help can you walk me thoe it plzzzz. |
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| 04:09.53 | cantido | badboy360: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC/Installation |
| 04:10.02 | valan | badboy360 what do you need walking through specifically? |
| 04:10.56 | badboy360 | becaues i am new to olpc annd stuff. |
| 04:11.35 | Arafangion | phorce1: /etc, perhaps /boot, any databases, and /home, being careful to preserve permissions. |
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| 04:12.17 | valan | badboy360 you need to be specific if you want to receive useful help |
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| 04:12.37 | valan | otherwise, search google, which has lots of answers for everything |
| 04:13.01 | parajulik | Yea. Google found me the acronym for OLPC :) :( |
| 04:13.16 | valan | !olpc |
| 04:13.16 | dpkg | [olpc] One Laptop Per Child, a non-profit organization overseeing the creation of an affordable educational device for the developing world. To install Debian on the OLPC XO-1 subnotebook, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC/Installation . http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/OLPC #debian-olpc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:13.19 | cantido | google found me ... http://wiki.laptop.org/go/DebXO |
| 04:13.19 | phorce1 | Arafangion: hmmm, I was just trying to cp /home and cp -a doesn't look like it's keeping permissions (/home is drwxr-xr-x but the new /drive/home is drwx------) |
| 04:13.46 | Arafangion | phorce1: Are they networked? |
| 04:14.05 | phorce1 | Arafangion: no, two drives in one system |
| 04:14.25 | \amethyst | phorce1: is it not finished yet? |
| 04:14.45 | \amethyst | phorce1: cp -a uses restrictive permissions on incompletely transferred directories |
| 04:14.49 | phorce1 | Arafangion: I'm moving /home off of a drive that has needed to be fsck's twice in the last 2 months onto a good drive so I can replace the failing drive. |
| 04:15.04 | phorce1 | \amethyst: Ahh, that's why |
| 04:15.17 | phorce1 | \amethyst: It won't be finished for a while |
| 04:15.23 | valan | careful with fsck, it can sometimes mess up a drive more |
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| 04:16.00 | valan | which i found out the hard way years ago |
| 04:16.05 | cantido | fsck being a wrapper for 5 or more distinct tools that can all work in differing fashions .. |
| 04:16.14 | \amethyst | phorce1: it creates the directory with tight perms (700), copies its contents, then updates the metadata including permissions |
| 04:16.17 | badboy360 | try home /cp -a |
| 04:16.55 | \amethyst | phorce1: same for files actually... the currently transferring file will usually have mode 0600 |
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| 04:18.05 | badboy360 | #xfce-help go on it i own it |
| 04:18.32 | Arafangion | badboy360: Why do we care about #xfce-help, and that you own it? |
| 04:19.14 | phorce1 | Arafangion: don't feed the troll (he was here last night with different nick I think) |
| 04:19.39 | valan | i'm not too tempted to join a channel owned by someone who can't even get the cp command right |
| 04:19.49 | badboy360 | yep |
| 04:20.00 | badboy360 | you r good |
| 04:20.07 | badboy360 | very good |
| 04:20.23 | badboy360 | a test |
| 04:20.32 | badboy360 | i give to you all |
| 04:21.05 | badboy360 | egregor leaves: "terminar o meu SO em brainfuck |
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| 04:23.10 | badboy360 | hello |
| 04:23.33 | phorce1 | \amethyst: du -sh /home ---> 313G |
| 04:24.54 | phorce1 | thinks the cp might take a minute or three |
| 04:25.00 | badboy360 | [olpc@xo-2B-E9-6A ~]$ du -sh /home ---> 313G |
| 04:25.00 | badboy360 | du: unrecognized option '---' |
| 04:25.00 | badboy360 | Try `du --help' for more information. |
| 04:25.00 | badboy360 | [olpc@xo-2B-E9-6A ~]$ |
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| 04:25.37 | phorce1 | heh -- I didn't even see his paste flood, I /ignored him when I figured out who it was |
| 04:25.55 | parajulik | ;p |
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| 04:27.00 | cantido | mmm, I'm scp'ing some files to a Solaris 10 machine and the transfer always gets to around 80% and stalls. Transfers to other Debian machines seem fine |
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| 04:27.50 | Arafangion | How big are those files? |
| 04:28.10 | Arafangion | And are any of them sparse? |
| 04:28.38 | cantido | 10MB war file, which is a jar file, which is a zip.. so shouldn't be sparse |
| 04:28.59 | Arafangion | No packet loss? |
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| 04:29.09 | badboy360 | hello |
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| 04:29.28 | parajulik | welcome back :) |
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| 04:29.38 | badboy360 | ok |
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| 04:30.31 | badboy360 | bte |
| 04:30.36 | badboy360 | bye |
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| 04:31.19 | cantido | Arafangion: I dont think so, it never recovers eithe |
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| 04:32.19 | Arafangion | cantido: Peculiar. |
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| 04:32.32 | Arafangion | cantido: Can you consider using GNU tools on the solaris system? |
| 04:32.39 | Arafangion | (Unlikely) |
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| 04:32.51 | Arafangion | Or transfer the other way? |
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| 04:33.06 | Arafangion | (ie, pull from the debian to the solaris, rather than push from the debian to the solaris) |
| 04:33.15 | superlinux | how can i add a menu item to my session menu in GDM? |
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| 04:33.30 | superlinux | i want to create my own |
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| 04:33.41 | cantido | Arafangion: solaris' ssh is basically openssh I think |
| 04:33.53 | Arafangion | That's correct. |
| 04:34.15 | Arafangion | Actually I think it's the same thing, even, now that I think of it. |
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| 04:34.41 | cantido | I bet its some stupid throttling or something at their end.. the jumped up guy there proxies everything like he's personally paying for it. |
| 04:34.58 | Arafangion | cantido: That's highly likely, then. :( |
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| 04:35.52 | Arafangion | cantido: Try split'ting the file and then cat'ing them back together again at the other end. |
| 04:36.09 | cantido | going to see if rsync is on the box |
| 04:36.37 | cantido | at least that way I can resume it |
| 04:36.38 | Arafangion | By the sounds of it, you'd likely have the same issue. You could also try setting a bandwidth limit on scp. |
| 04:36.59 | cantido | Arafangion: bandwidth option sometimes makes it work, sometimes |
| 04:37.18 | Arafangion | The most reliable option _might_ be to use ftp. |
| 04:37.24 | Arafangion | And wget it over. |
| 04:37.35 | Arafangion | Hardly secure, though. |
| 04:38.01 | cantido | Arafangion: All that stuff is filtered, it all has to go through an authenticated proxy that'll only accept microsoft authentication methods.. sigh |
| 04:38.36 | Arafangion | wishes that he knew why IT geeks always try to impose such stupid restrictions for administrators, who can bypass anything anyway _because_ they are an admin, or a programmer, who's trade is to work around technical limitations... |
| 04:38.39 | phorce1 | yuck, making sure the new,, different size and ID, drive shows up as hd0,0 after I ghost the system is gonna suck |
| 04:39.50 | cantido | Arafangion: the worst thing is.. we're building this product for them, it uses loads of external feeds over http. So one day their IT people decide it's a good idea to block direct http connections without telling anyone |
| 04:40.18 | cantido | Arafangion: so now there's a half broken product and loads of bugs in our trac saying "it's all broked!" haha |
| 04:40.49 | cantido | And I can't ssh anything to their machines. :/ |
| 04:40.53 | Arafangion | cantido: You could try escalating the issue. :) |
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| 04:41.52 | carlitos__ | hi all |
| 04:42.07 | carlitos__ | I using a tv card asus p7131 |
| 04:42.17 | carlitos__ | channels I can see |
| 04:42.26 | carlitos__ | but no any sounds |
| 04:42.27 | cantido | carlitos__: ask your question in one line |
| 04:42.38 | Arafangion | "We almost had a functioning product to your specifications, unfortunately the product requires network connectivity, which has been substantially restricted on <date> due to an unannounced network change by your network administrators, causing us to slip behind schedule." |
| 04:43.21 | carlitos__ | I follow a How to steps , but I can not find /etc/modprobe.d/options |
| 04:43.37 | carlitos__ | I follow this http://xanderboy.esdebian.org/30607/tarjeta-capturadora-asus-tvturner-saa71333435-debian-lenny |
| 04:44.00 | cantido | carlitos__: is it an analogue card or digital? |
| 04:44.07 | carlitos__ | analog |
| 04:44.26 | Arafangion | carlitos__: Whatever the heck you do, do NOT break or throw away those cards! |
| 04:45.10 | cantido | carlitos__: most analogue cards send the audio out via one of those CD audio connectors.. you have checked that? |
| 04:45.41 | carlitos__ | cantido: to newbie for that how can I check it ? |
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| 04:46.06 | Arafangion | carlitos__: *too, not 'to'. |
| 04:46.09 | cantido | carlitos__: your card will either have a connector on the back for a standard jack, or an internal connector.. |
| 04:46.20 | carlitos__ | ok |
| 04:46.24 | carlitos__ | I will check this |
| 04:46.29 | cantido | carlitos__: you need to feed that to an input on your sound card or maybe to your speakers directly |
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| 04:46.50 | Arafangion | cantido: Would you happen to know of good video editing software? |
| 04:47.39 | cantido | Arafangion: not really, all the free ones I've used have been a bit flakey |
| 04:47.54 | Arafangion | cantido: Likewise. :( |
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| 04:48.20 | carlitos__ | cantido: no jack in the tv card |
| 04:48.31 | Arafangion | cantido: The only one I have found that manages to do the job is luvcview + mencoder, but that's very awkward. :( |
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| 04:48.41 | Arafangion | (Worse UI, ever) |
| 04:49.17 | cantido | carlitos__: I'm just checking for that card.. it may be that your card shows up as another sound card or something |
| 04:49.51 | cantido | carlitos__: on the picture I've found there is a white connector near the end of the card |
| 04:50.05 | cantido | carlitos__: that'll be were the audio comes out :) |
| 04:50.21 | craigevil | Arafangion: editing or converting? |
| 04:50.41 | Arafangion | craigevil: Producing crap speeches. |
| 04:50.51 | Arafangion | craigevil: ie, for the youtube crowd. |
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| 04:51.10 | cantido | Why do youtube rants always start with "So, today.." |
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| 04:51.42 | Arafangion | cantido: I wouldn't know - I'm actually just recording translations of bible verses for my own use. :) |
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| 04:52.35 | Arafangion | I wish that 'cheese' would work, but the videos it produces are twice the correct speed. |
| 04:53.20 | cantido | Arafangion: there are a bunch of apps for doing cutting etc, but they crash quite a bit :/ |
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| 04:53.51 | craigevil | Arafangion: you might take a look at kino and winff |
| 04:54.01 | Arafangion | cantido: I can't stand crashing applications. Programming is not that young an industry - computers surely should be more reliable than they are :( |
| 04:54.08 | Arafangion | craigevil: Thanks, will check them out. :) |
| 04:54.09 | carlitos__ | cantido: I hace this model http://www.iso-computer.be/images/ASUS_CINEMA.jpg |
| 04:54.28 | carlitos__ | just a super video jack , fm in , and cable in for tv |
| 04:55.16 | carlitos__ | http://www.mesajilhnos.com/img-productos-detalle/TARCAPTP71-2.jpg |
| 04:55.19 | carlitos__ | same |
| 04:55.33 | cantido | carlitos__: yeah, thats the one I saw.. it can apparently do digital and analogue. Those tuner chips don't general digitize the sound from analogue transmissions though, hence it'll come out of a connector for your to feed into your soundcard |
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| 04:56.04 | cantido | carlitos__: look inside the machine ;) |
| 04:56.09 | craigevil | Arafangion: also avidemux , openmovieeditor, kdenlive |
| 04:56.33 | carlitos__ | I dont get it |
| 04:56.38 | carlitos__ | my english sucks |
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| 04:57.18 | cantido | carlitos__: If you look at the picture of the card; near the end, there is a white bit of plastic |
| 04:57.30 | carlitos__ | jajajaja |
| 04:57.34 | carlitos__ | I put this |
| 04:57.36 | carlitos__ | tvtime | arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay - |
| 04:57.39 | Arafangion | craigevil: I tried openmovieeditor - it's shit. :( |
| 04:57.45 | carlitos__ | and now I can listen man |
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| 04:57.56 | Arafangion | craigevil: The only good thing about it is the default colourscheme, sad to say. :( |
| 04:58.00 | carlitos__ | thanks |
| 04:58.02 | carlitos__ | :D |
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| 04:58.21 | craigevil | Arafangion: :) those were just a few i found by doing apt-get search video edit, never used any of them myself |
| 04:58.23 | cantido | carlitos__: hw1,0 is your sound card? |
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| 04:58.38 | Arafangion | craigevil: The problem is that most are crap. |
| 04:58.42 | carlitos__ | cantido: no idea |
| 04:58.57 | carlitos__ | I follow this : http://xanderboy.esdebian.org/30607/tarjeta-capturadora-asus-tvturner-saa71333435-debian-lenny |
| 04:59.02 | Arafangion | craigevil: Even 'cheese', the most popular one (I presume), doesn't work properly. |
| 04:59.14 | cantido | carlitos__: I reckon that card gives you an input you can record the sound from :) which sounds sensible |
| 04:59.25 | craigevil | Arafangion: you might take a look at http://www.linuxmovies.org/software.html |
| 05:00.10 | carlitos__ | really ? |
| 05:00.13 | carlitos__ | no idea |
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| 05:00.24 | cantido | carlitos__: DVB-T is the way to go :) |
| 05:00.46 | Arafangion | craigevil: That site isn't helpful. I'm not a professional movie artist who wants to render 3D scenes and do complex composition... All I want to do is grab the <censored> video stream from the webcam, and shove it into a file. |
| 05:01.19 | craigevil | no but it a list of apps a lot of which are free and in the repos |
| 05:01.22 | Arafangion | craigevil: I'd be particularly pleased if the size was kept smallish, and the movie was in real-time. (Unlike cheese, which is twice as fast) |
| 05:01.28 | carlitos__ | cantido can I stream from this tv card to server streaming? |
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| 05:01.48 | craigevil | recording it in lucview doesnt work? |
| 05:02.19 | cantido | carlitos__: yes, I think you could do it with either vlc or ffmpegs streaming server |
| 05:02.36 | Arafangion | craigevil: It's not too bad... Atrocious UI (Seriously), and I still have to manually convert, plus it has a nasty habit of loosing mouse clicks which mean that it doesn't stop when I want it too. |
| 05:02.36 | carlitos__ | cantido what about wowza ? |
| 05:02.48 | cantido | carlitos__: never used it :) |
| 05:03.13 | carlitos__ | :( |
| 05:03.19 | cantido | carlitos__: any app that can capute v4l and stream it will work |
| 05:03.24 | cantido | carlitos__: *capture |
| 05:03.37 | carlitos__ | cantido: wich one ? |
| 05:03.39 | carlitos__ | :D |
| 05:04.15 | cantido | carlitos__: vlc is probably the easiest to use, you can build the stream settings with the GUI |
| 05:04.50 | carlitos__ | cantido thanks for your help |
| 05:07.21 | craigevil | Arafangion: might try camstream |
| 05:08.17 | Arafangion | craigevil: That has potential, thanks. |
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| 05:10.59 | Arafangion | craigevil: Looks discontinued. |
| 05:12.27 | cantido | Arafangion: fiddling with the tcp congestion control stuff seems to have fixed the scp :) |
| 05:12.45 | Arafangion | cantido: Nice. :) |
| 05:13.01 | Arafangion | cantido: You going to put a 'dishonourable mention' when you complete the project? :) |
| 05:13.55 | Arafangion | kino looks to be the most promising. Hmm. |
| 05:14.19 | cantido | Arafangion: nah, we're just trying to get this project done and leg it.. you wouldn't think such big companies would be so retarded. heh |
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| 05:14.44 | Arafangion | cantido: I happen to work in a big company. |
| 05:15.06 | Arafangion | cantido: They can be very good, but the biggest problem is lack of communication, I suspect. |
| 05:15.23 | phorce1 | well, I've gotten about 100G of /home copied so far <sigh> |
| 05:16.07 | blouf | there's a bug inna the subversion package from other repo than the sid's one |
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| 05:17.16 | \amethyst | blouf: http not working? |
| 05:17.32 | blouf | \amethyst: OPTIONS problem |
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| 05:17.50 | blouf | it's fixed on the sid version, but annoying to find out :/ |
| 05:17.50 | \amethyst | blouf: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531338 |
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| 05:18.02 | \amethyst | blouf: there is a workaround in the bug report |
| 05:18.43 | blouf | \amethyst: yeah i got it work, just notice all around for checking, when u need svn quickly it's annoying to spend time debugging |
| 05:19.07 | phorce1 | what's a good IMAP email client that uses text config files so an identical setup can be replicated to several machines? I like Thunderbird (IceDove) but creating identical setups on my laptop and desktop and keeping them identical manually is a pain in the rear. |
| 05:19.30 | ssm | phorce1: gnus :P |
| 05:19.41 | cantido | Arafangion: These guys fired all their IT people that knew stuff other than how to install some Microsoft software and click buttons to administrate it,.. ;) |
| 05:19.45 | phorce1 | ssm: ouch |
| 05:19.51 | ssm | indeed :) |
| 05:19.55 | blouf | \amethyst: but btw, is it possible to choose for specific package, where i want them to be downloaded from ? (testing or unstable for example) |
| 05:20.39 | phorce1 | Unfortunately I do need something X capable because of some of the garbage I get from customers and family. Otherwise I'd just use mutt |
| 05:20.57 | \amethyst | !pinning |
| 05:20.57 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
| 05:21.05 | Arafangion | cantido: Rub it in, then. :) |
| 05:21.09 | ssm | phorce1: mutt is a better alternative, if you like console based imap clients |
| 05:21.19 | blouf | thanks |
| 05:21.27 | ssm | gnus if you (like '(lisp)) |
| 05:21.32 | \amethyst | blouf: or install the version you want then hold it |
| 05:21.36 | \amethyst | !hold |
| 05:21.36 | dpkg | i guess hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Notice that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (ie Update Manager and Synaptic) but that aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. Ask me about <why aptitude>. |
| 05:21.53 | craigevil | phorce1: thunderbird/icedove or opera not much to setup other than your email account info |
| 05:22.10 | phorce1 | craigevil: 20+ email accounts |
| 05:22.38 | craigevil | set it up on one system then copy the profile to the other one |
| 05:23.04 | phorce1 | craigevil: and filtering to IMAP folders in almost all of them, my inboxes stay empty except for stuff that doesn't have a filter yet |
| 05:23.14 | ajavid | when you make oldconfig and copy current config to /usr/src/linux-xyz/.config |
| 05:23.18 | phorce1 | craigevil: doesn't work that easily with tbird |
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| 05:23.22 | ajavid | and then when you do menuconfig, to configure it more |
| 05:23.30 | ajavid | does that override the file or what? |
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| 05:23.45 | ajavid | its not gonna fuck up mychanges from before it is, now when i menuconfig on it |
| 05:23.57 | phorce1 | I may look at the opera mail client |
| 05:25.32 | phorce1 | ajavid: no, it reads the .config that you have sitting there and males changes to that. May want to make a backup anyway |
| 05:25.45 | phorce1 | s/males/makes/ |
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| 05:41.44 | sylarr | why doesn't my rc.local script run? |
| 05:42.29 | streuner_ | check out the -x option in the script... |
| 05:42.31 | sylarr | I have found I have an /etc/init.d/rc.local that runs /etc/rc.local and i have links in /etc/rc2.d for eg to that script |
| 05:42.49 | sylarr | streuner_, there is x on it |
| 05:43.02 | sylarr | streuner_, I ran it manually and it ran |
| 05:43.05 | streuner_ | fine, so read the error/warning |
| 05:43.13 | streuner_ | oh |
| 05:43.14 | sylarr | where? |
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| 05:43.29 | sylarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.41 | sylarr | ^ that worked |
| 05:44.05 | sylarr | streuner_, where are the errors / warrnings? |
| 05:44.19 | streuner_ | nm |
| 05:45.04 | streuner_ | sylarr: Did you read /msg dpkg rc.local? |
| 05:46.06 | streuner_ | sylarr: and, what does that script do at all? |
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| 05:48.11 | streuner_ | sylarr: what kind of x do you mean, in permissions or in the script itself? |
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| 05:48.46 | bluethundr | rsync -avz /usr/share/tomcat5.5/beezag/ stage:/var/backups/ste-web1/beezag |
| 05:48.56 | bluethundr | http://beezag.pastebin.com/d201e5ca3 |
| 05:49.09 | bluethundr | the receiving directory remains empty |
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| 05:51.10 | kgoetz | have youlookd in your pwd? |
| 05:51.18 | zophy | how do i add another choice for update-alternatives |
| 05:51.36 | zophy | i don't see that simple ability in the man page |
| 05:52.13 | micols | would mdadm refuse to rebuild if it encounters a bit error? |
| 05:52.15 | micols | (raid5) |
| 05:52.52 | craigevil | zophy: when you install an app it shows up like swf,gnash, flash or gcj, java |
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| 06:01.15 | Napkin | Hi! Any news about ftp.de.debian.org? |
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| 06:02.11 | mischievous | hey can anyone tell me how i can re-install grub to the mbr of a disk? it seems to have been wiped |
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| 06:02.35 | Napkin | grub-install /dev/<disk> |
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| 06:02.56 | mischievous | that is it? :o |
| 06:03.11 | Napkin | yeah, that reinstalls the mbr too |
| 06:03.34 | mischievous | hmm..okay..now to find some sort of disk to install grub from |
| 06:03.46 | Napkin | O_o |
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| 06:07.15 | Napkin | just boot any live-cd? |
| 06:07.34 | mischievous | yeah, i booted puppy Napkin |
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| 06:07.58 | iceyp | hey guys, how do I add the following iptables rule: allow any from any to 192.168.182.1 tcp ssh |
| 06:08.07 | streuner_ | sylarr: why do you asking new questions in #bash instead of answering first ours? |
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| 06:08.17 | mischievous | Napkin, it failed |
| 06:08.30 | mischievous | it said 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device' |
| 06:08.51 | mischievous | Napkin, do i need to specify a partition? or simply the disk? |
| 06:08.56 | Napkin | choose a better live-cd or chroot into your installation first (mounting proc & dev before that) |
| 06:09.23 | Napkin | incoming or outgoing, iceyp ? |
| 06:09.38 | mischievous | Napkin, what do you mean a better livecd |
| 06:09.55 | Napkin | you want to specify the disk - otherwise you will install a bootblock into the partition, not the mbr |
| 06:10.26 | mischievous | ah right |
| 06:10.54 | iceyp | Napkin incoming |
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| 06:11.59 | mischievous | Napkin, i cannot mount the disk and grub-install keeps failing :< |
| 06:12.01 | Napkin | iptables -A INPUT -d <ip> -dports <port> -j ACCEPT |
| 06:12.39 | Napkin | hmm.. on the other hand.. if you can't mount the partitions, i don't think a working grub will do you any good |
| 06:12.42 | iceyp | thnx |
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| 06:12.54 | Napkin | something like that.. check the man-page, iceyp |
| 06:13.37 | iceyp | Napkin so thats if I'm wanting to allow anyone to ssh to the box |
| 06:13.45 | iceyp | maybe its outgoing? |
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| 06:13.51 | iceyp | nah its gotta be incomming |
| 06:14.08 | Napkin | "to the box" which is local? then incoming |
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| 06:14.37 | iceyp | iptables v1.3.3: multiple -d flags not allowed |
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| 06:15.01 | iceyp | I have tried this but its not working : iptables -I LAN_ACCEPT 1 -i tun0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 06:15.02 | Napkin | --dports? --dport? -dport? check man-page.. don't exactly remember |
| 06:15.15 | iceyp | but then again i'm wanting all interfaces to be allowed to ssh to it |
| 06:15.38 | iceyp | I think it's complaining about the -d for destination? |
| 06:16.53 | Napkin | it's interpreted -dports as another -d parameter |
| 06:16.59 | Napkin | --dport is correct, probably |
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| 06:17.24 | iceyp | yeah it doesnt like -d x.x.x.x |
| 06:17.52 | Napkin | no, that's not the problem |
| 06:19.08 | Napkin | but seeing LAN_ACCEPT.. you are probably using a custom firewall script? |
| 06:19.35 | iceyp | yeah its a tomizone wireless Access point http://www.unix.co.nz/tomizone.txt |
| 06:19.39 | Napkin | you should either stick to that and configure ssh to be allowed somehow or ignore it |
| 06:19.41 | iceyp | thats the full tables |
| 06:20.00 | iceyp | i cant work out where to add it :/ |
| 06:21.06 | Napkin | if you show it to people, you need to show a iptables -L -n -v |
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| 06:21.33 | Napkin | otherwise the devices won't be shown and it won't make much sense |
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| 06:21.45 | iceyp | ahhh |
| 06:22.05 | iceyp | ok let me try thjat :) |
| 06:23.32 | Napkin | you will probably see, that the rule in INPUT which directs to LAN_ACCEPT does not care about tun0 |
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| 06:24.13 | iceyp | updated :) |
| 06:24.29 | Napkin | so.. -I INPUT 4 would probably be the best place for your rule |
| 06:24.42 | iceyp | I have been trying to understand it all day, 9 hrs now |
| 06:24.43 | iceyp | :/ |
| 06:24.49 | iceyp | I'm a ipfw freebsd man |
| 06:25.29 | iceyp | I tried -I input 4 |
| 06:25.31 | iceyp | though i dont know if LAN_ACCEPT is the correct interface |
| 06:25.31 | iceyp | because its the wireless interface i want to allow ssh from |
| 06:26.32 | Napkin | use iptables-save to save the current rules |
| 06:26.56 | Napkin | then set policies to ACCEPT and get rid of those rules |
| 06:27.00 | Napkin | then write your own |
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| 06:27.17 | Napkin | easier to understand once you do that |
| 06:27.40 | Napkin | you can use iptables-restore whenever you like |
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| 06:28.54 | Napkin | others (apart from openwrt users) can probably not help you easily, unless you explain the devices tun0, br0, vlan1,2,3 etc |
| 06:29.04 | Napkin | but I gotta go |
| 06:29.06 | Napkin | good luck! |
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| 06:29.39 | iceyp | damn, thanks :) |
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| 06:30.46 | iceyp | didnt realize there was an openwrt channel :) |
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| 06:33.34 | ajavid | openwrt is no good |
| 06:33.38 | ajavid | ddwrt == best |
| 06:33.39 | ajavid | :) |
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| 06:48.11 | Supaplex | ajavid: debian is bester |
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| 06:48.17 | mischievous | Napkin, still around? |
| 06:48.23 | Napkin | ja |
| 06:48.24 | mischievous | i still can't seem to get grub on my disk |
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| 06:48.29 | Napkin | but gotta go, sorry |
| 06:48.35 | mischievous | darnit. :< |
| 06:48.44 | fdc | hello |
| 06:48.45 | mischievous | can anyone help me re-install grub to my mbr? |
| 06:49.00 | Supaplex | !tell mischievous -about rescue |
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| 06:51.06 | mischievous | Supaplex, so on the debian installer disk i go into 'rescue mode'? |
| 06:51.09 | lymeca | How can I change the permissions for all files in a directory but ignore the other subdirs? |
| 06:51.41 | safruhani | without using -R parametres of chown |
| 06:51.50 | safruhani | sorry chmod |
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| 06:54.54 | lymeca | safruhani: that changes the subdirs themselves |
| 06:55.08 | lymeca | I want to alter now the permissions of all directories in my pwd but not the files |
| 06:56.55 | mischievous | Supaplex, how do i figure out which partition is the root device |
| 06:57.44 | mischievous | er, root fs* |
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| 06:59.08 | daave | hi all. I need some help on repair grub. I've installed debian lenny on a T400, then I figured that I still need a windows for some online shopping. After using gparted to make an NTFS partition, I installed an XP. The grub is down, then I used Debian LiveCD to repair the grub. I used the chrooted to the debian partition, and grub-installed the on the root(hd0,2), I've got an Grub error 17? What can I do next? Thanks alot in advance! |
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| 07:03.20 | sylarr | streuner_, it runs now when I manually run it, but on reboot it doesn't run |
| 07:03.59 | Kazuha | daave: You installed in the wrong order. |
| 07:04.08 | Kazuha | MSOS *LOVES* to kill all MBRs. |
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| 07:05.44 | daave | kazuha: could you be more specific? Thanks |
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| 07:05.48 | Kazuha | So bad is this, that I physically disconnect every drive that its not being installed on -- because its too much of a headache to put up with unnecessarily wiped MBRs. |
| 07:06.32 | sylarr | streuner_, I made it write to a log file, and nothing is in the log from the reboot |
| 07:06.32 | Kazuha | MSOS's installer wipes MBRs -- as a matter of course. |
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| 07:06.39 | Kazuha | As for repairing grub -- I have no clue, I use lilo. |
| 07:07.30 | Arafangion | sylarr: Install the grub userland tools on a linux system you use on that system, and use that to configure grub. |
| 07:07.39 | Kazuha | (lilo's repair method is to boot in rescue mode, and run lilo -- in other words, tell lilo to reinstall itself on the MBR(s).) |
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| 07:07.59 | Arafangion | sylarr: grub is practically an OS in its own right, and it will actually access /boot/grub/menu.lst (or similar) to read its configuration. |
| 07:08.25 | sylarr | Arafangion, ?? |
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| 07:08.51 | daave | Kazuha: thanks, I'll try it rightaway |
| 07:08.55 | Arafangion | sylarr: What part don't you understand? |
| 07:08.58 | sylarr | Arafangion, I am having a trouble with an rc.local script that doesnt seemto be run |
| 07:09.11 | sylarr | Arafangion, how does that have to do with grub? |
| 07:09.52 | Arafangion | sylarr: The conversation heavily implied grub - blame Kazuha for that. :) |
| 07:10.06 | sylarr | Arafangion, no harm done |
| 07:10.17 | Arafangion | sylarr: As for the script... Sprinkle liberally with echo. :) |
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| 07:10.52 | sylarr | Arafangion, I try to, but I dont' find where it echo to |
| 07:10.59 | kasimon | Hi! I maintain some in-house software as debian packages and have to provide packages for etch and lenny. What is the recommended way to organize the source package? Separate Source packages for each distro? git-buildpackage branches? or should I just throw the same source package into different pbuilders and ignore the wrong distribution in the changes file? |
| 07:10.59 | Kazuha | daave had a question about MSOS and grub being unable to boot. I answered what I knew about the situation from my experience with lilo and MSOS. |
| 07:11.23 | daave | Kazuha: Though I suspect that it's kindof related with the specific hardware configuration with Lenovo T400, it has 2 HDD I think. What do you think of that? |
| 07:11.37 | sylarr | Arafangion, I guess I can make my own >>file |
| 07:11.37 | Arafangion | Kazuha: You might want to incorporate my (mistaken) response into your answer, then. |
| 07:11.42 | sylarr | I will try |
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| 07:11.58 | Arafangion | sylarr: That's a good approach. Also, use invoke-rc.d when testing. |
| 07:12.47 | Kazuha | daave: If it has two HDs, then I take it there's an /dev/hda and a /dev/hdb, possibly a /dev/hdc too? (Could also be sd(a/b/c). |
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| 07:13.59 | Kazuha | Also, I have 5 HDs in my system, and for most of the last 7 years its had no fewer than 3 -- plus an optical drive. |
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| 07:14.42 | mischievous | hey can anyone tell me how to remove gnome? i checked the wiki and dpkg but got no clear answer |
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| 07:15.29 | daave | Kazuha: That is exactly where confusing me. I cannot see them in debian. Just some guy told me that it's kindof new techonology |
| 07:15.31 | Kazuha | So if you've got Debian installed on one drive, (example hdb), and MSOS installed on the other (hda), then if you installed MSOS second, and with the drives connected, MSOS's installer will blank the MBR of both hda and hdb. Nevermind that its not installing to hdb. |
| 07:15.34 | sylarr | Arafangion, invoke-rc.d rc.local start |
| 07:15.39 | sylarr | Arafangion, and it ran OK |
| 07:15.51 | Arafangion | sylarr: Try testing it in single-user mode. |
| 07:15.57 | daave | Kazuha: I cannot see more than sda in the LiveCD system |
| 07:16.03 | Kazuha | daave, does the BIOS mention two or more drives? |
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| 07:16.32 | Arafangion | sylarr: Also make sure it's set as the default with update-rc.d |
| 07:16.33 | sylarr | Arafangion, huh? what do you mean? |
| 07:16.47 | Kazuha | sda would be a SATA or SCSI drive -- either way its only one drive. |
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| 07:17.00 | Arafangion | sylarr: My suspicion is that it depends on something that hasn't started yet - or that it isn't been run at all. |
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| 07:17.27 | daave | Kazuha: I don't remember actually. Yeah, it's a SATA drive. |
| 07:18.08 | sylarr | Arafangion, I have /etc/rc5.d/S99rc.local |
| 07:18.16 | daave | Kazuha: I'll just try all the partitions in the bootloader, to see if one of them works |
| 07:18.45 | sylarr | Arafangion, and it doesn't run at all as far as I can tell, I just can't tell why, or wht to do so it will run |
| 07:19.11 | Kazuha | (MSOS has the strange habit of calling "partitions" "drives" in userland. C:, D: and E: can be all on the same physical drive. While in Debian they'd be seen as "/dev/sda1, /dev/sda5, /dev/sda6". |
| 07:20.04 | DanDare | after Debian installation where´s located the used grub.conf file ? |
| 07:20.14 | Arafangion | sylarr: Are you sure you're using run level 5? |
| 07:20.17 | ajavid | Det som engang var. |
| 07:20.19 | sylarr | Arafangion, it depends on lvm2, on fstab mounting, |
| 07:20.21 | daave | Kazuha: yeah, i've got sda, and sda1-5 in the /dev |
| 07:20.28 | pluesch0r | we're running xen 3.2 on kernel 2.6.26 (debian lenny) over here. i'm experiencing a LOT of kernel oops messages when starting a domU that has got an etherd device as rootfs (defined via phy:). raw images work flawlessly. what's going on? |
| 07:20.39 | sylarr | Arafangion, I have links to it from 2 to 5 |
| 07:20.51 | sylarr | Arafangion, I didn't put them there, they just were there |
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| 07:21.46 | Kazuha | daave, I've also noted that most versions of MSOS don't like being on anything other than the first partition of the drive. |
| 07:22.23 | daave | Kazuha: my lenny is installed on /dev/sda3, though in grub loader, you have to refer it as (hd0, 2), i.e. the first HDD and the third partition |
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| 07:22.49 | daave | Kazuha: what do you mean? I have ruined the lenny installation? |
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| 07:23.45 | Kazuha | Unknown -- I just remember MSOS having a preference for /dev/hda1 (Or /dev/sda1, but my SATAs have always been offlimits to that.) |
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| 07:24.28 | daave | Kazuha: sign, seems that I've done something stupid. |
| 07:24.46 | Kazuha | If. *IF* MSOS borged /dev/sda1 and *if* that's where you installed Lenny in the first place, then yes its broken. |
| 07:24.56 | Kazuha | But there are three "ifs" in that sentence. |
| 07:25.12 | Kazuha | Er, two. |
| 07:26.09 | Arafangion | sylarr: Strange. :( |
| 07:26.14 | Kazuha | (IIRC, though, XP is more willing to be on a non-hda1 partition than 9x was.) |
| 07:26.16 | daave | Kazuha: /dev/sda1 linux, /dev/sda3 NTFS |
| 07:26.17 | sylarr | is there somewhere a log of the attempts to run the services? |
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| 07:26.37 | Kazuha | So sda1 is intact Linux. |
| 07:26.52 | Kazuha | Then most likely you're fine there. |
| 07:27.01 | MontelEdwards | Can i bring my bot in here for a second to test? |
| 07:27.11 | MontelEdwards | It is a good one |
| 07:27.47 | Kazuha | If you mount /dev/sda1 on /target (or /mnt), or whatever (with a rescue/install CD), does what's on it correspond to /? |
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| 07:28.41 | daave | Kazuha: yeah, right. |
| 07:28.52 | Kazuha | In other words does /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2/3/4/5, have etc, boot, etc on it? |
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| 07:29.32 | daave | Kazuha: In fact that's how I rescue the grub. I have all the directories in / |
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| 07:30.02 | Kazuha | So you did a "everything in /" install. |
| 07:30.05 | Kazuha | ?* |
| 07:30.11 | daave | Kazuha: yeah |
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| 07:30.21 | Kazuha | Well, does sda1 have the contents of /? |
| 07:30.59 | daave | Kazuha: yes, that's where I tried to load with grub |
| 07:31.30 | Kazuha | I'm not familiar with fixing (or even getting it working) grub. |
| 07:32.34 | Kazuha | If it were lilo, I'd edit /etc/lilo.conf, make sure that /dev/sda1 is pointed to as root, and add a pointer to /dev/sda3 as MSOS. Then save and run lilo. |
| 07:32.36 | daave | Kazuha: well, I'm not familiar with lilo, a wild guess that they are similar, just install grub back to the MBR |
| 07:32.53 | Kazuha | Pretty much what 'running lilo' means. |
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| 07:34.14 | cantido | daave: if you look at the menu.lst debian generates, it should have an example of how to chain load the windows loader |
| 07:34.51 | Kazuha | What daave's having trouble with is the Debian side of things. But he'll probably want to fix that too. |
| 07:35.14 | cantido | Kazuha: windows trashed grub? |
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| 07:35.20 | daave | cantido: sure, I'll try to figure that out too |
| 07:35.41 | daave | cantido: yes, I installed the XP after debian |
| 07:35.42 | Kazuha | cantido: Doesn't MSOS do that to *all* other OSes? |
| 07:36.08 | cantido | Kazuha: I think the installer does detect the presence of another bootloader.. |
| 07:36.19 | MrWax | Hi, I encountered some weird thing with debian, it won't boot again.. at least it stops starting up at a certain point, and the sound card gives some error sound... from then on, no activity from the hdd to the monitor, and the monitor goes idle, aswell as the hdd i think.. This is a new installation that has been started like 2,3 times before and nothing installed, on a clean brand new disk, with no errors (checked it). Any ideas how I can check what is |
| 07:36.51 | Kazuha | cantido: This is XP -- and it does clear other MBRs and bootloaders. I know from experience. A lot of experience. |
| 07:37.28 | daave | cantido: I think Kazuha's right about this |
| 07:37.43 | cantido | Kazuha: Haven't installed Windows on a real machine for a long time ;). I thought it told you during the install that another os is apparently present, maybe I'm giving it too much credit. |
| 07:38.00 | cantido | daave: it's easy to fix grub though, so its not a big deal |
| 07:38.02 | Kazuha | XP and 9x -- YES. |
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| 07:39.01 | Kazuha | I've made installing MSOS without it killing my bootloaders into an art form. |
| 07:39.26 | cantido | daave: you should have a working menu.lst inside your install.. you should only need to reinstall the grub mbr |
| 07:39.45 | cantido | Kazuha: not hard to do with kvm :P |
| 07:40.03 | daave | cantido: thanks for your encouraging me |
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| 07:40.21 | pluesch0r | so .. everybody in here happily using xen on lenny then? |
| 07:40.35 | daave | cantido: yeah, that sounds about right |
| 07:40.54 | daave | cantido: I'll go google how to do that |
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| 07:41.23 | cantido | daave: if you boot a debian cd and use the rescue mode to get into your system you can then use the grub-install command from there to put it back.. iirc |
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| 07:41.57 | daave | cantido: need to be in the rescue mode? |
| 07:42.08 | kasimon | Anyone? |
| 07:42.28 | cantido | daave: you don't have to, you can drop into a shell, but if you use the rescue mode it'll handle mounting root for your |
| 07:42.33 | cantido | daave: *you |
| 07:42.41 | Kazuha | Have lilo install itself to sda's (or any other HDD's, except hda's), MBR. Shutdown, physically disconnect all other drives, except the optical and hda. Reboot, install MSOS. When that's done, shutdown, reconnect all drives, change BIOS boot order to prioritize sda as the boot device. Boot Linux. Have it take over /dev/hda's MBR, and viola. No rescue mode. |
| 07:42.49 | DanDare | when booting in Lenny what means the numbers at info lines, like [ 37.093657] etc etc |
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| 07:43.04 | cantido | Kazuha: why lilo? |
| 07:43.04 | Kazuha | Seconds since boot. |
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| 07:43.20 | Kazuha | cantido: Because I've never gotten anything done in grub. |
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| 07:43.27 | Kazuha | And I'm used to lilo. |
| 07:43.36 | cantido | I find lilo breaks easier than grub to be honest.. |
| 07:43.53 | Kazuha | Mainly on kernel changes. |
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| 07:44.17 | Kazuha | And if *someone* forgets to run lilo after the new kernel is installed. |
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| 07:44.37 | cantido | That should be handled by the kernel post inst |
| 07:45.16 | daave | cantido: Do I need to chroot into the debian on my HDD to do the grub-install? |
| 07:45.30 | cantido | DanDare: those are timestamps |
| 07:45.48 | cantido | daave: yes, you need to mount /proc etc too |
| 07:46.11 | daave | cantido: in fact I've done that, and after reboot, I got an grub error 17 |
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| 07:47.19 | cantido | daave: just looking up what that means |
| 07:47.23 | DanDare | ok, i just installed Lenny on another HDD and did not installed grub in the proccess. How to add an option in Etch´s grub to boot Lenny? I already modified menu1.lst |
| 07:47.47 | daave | cantido: Grub Error 17: Cannot Mount Selected Partition? |
| 07:48.17 | cantido | daave: ok, did you use grub-install or the grub commandline to install it? |
| 07:48.25 | daave | cantido: That's why I'm confusing about the rumor that Lenovo T400 has two HDDs? |
| 07:48.53 | daave | cantido: I used grub, and set root and setup in the grub commandline? |
| 07:49.06 | daave | cantido: grub-install is another thing? |
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| 07:49.20 | cantido | daave: grub-install tries to do it automagically for you |
| 07:49.50 | yareckon | hey, I'm on ppc, and I want to see what is holding up the availability of kde4 on sid ppc |
| 07:50.01 | cantido | daave: you might have the install that your drives are ordered different in the bios than once you've booted |
| 07:50.10 | yareckon | I try to install it and synaptic helpfully tells me what packages aren't isntallable |
| 07:50.28 | yareckon | however, when I go back to install those packages, they have unfullfiled depends too |
| 07:50.42 | yareckon | what is the best tool to see the whole tree and highlight the roadbloacks? |
| 07:51.15 | cantido | daave: *have the issue |
| 07:51.20 | daave | cantido: do you mean that I cannot rescue it with the LiveCD? |
| 07:51.28 | yareckon | I'm tired of tracking back one level at a time |
| 07:51.42 | cantido | daave: grub worked correctly before you installed windows right? |
| 07:51.49 | DanDare | i can add more lines in device.map ? |
| 07:52.01 | simplechat | hi, i'm trying to build a .config for my debian 5.0 server, i know that its at /proc/config.gz however tar -zxvf /proc/config.gz won't untar it (it says that its not a tar file) |
| 07:52.12 | simplechat | is there something i'm missing? |
| 07:52.16 | simplechat | (aside from a .config) |
| 07:52.16 | cantido | simplechat: z |
| 07:52.24 | simplechat | cantido, i have z as the first option? |
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| 07:52.39 | cantido | simplechat: the extension shows its gzip, not a gzipped tar |
| 07:52.44 | daave | cantido: yeah right |
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| 07:53.03 | simplechat | cantido, so what do i use to unzip a gzipped file? |
| 07:53.08 | cantido | simplechat: gunzip |
| 07:53.11 | yareckon | gzip -u? |
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| 07:53.19 | yareckon | gunzip |
| 07:53.24 | daave | cantido: it works just fine, only after I installed a stupid XP, it crashed. |
| 07:53.33 | simplechat | ah, ok |
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| 07:53.55 | cantido | daave: so we should be able to make it work again :) |
| 07:53.59 | simplechat | ok, this is very wierd |
| 07:54.19 | yareckon | simplechat, you also need to put it somewhere else as /proc is read only I believe? |
| 07:54.33 | yareckon | or at least is not a normal filesystem |
| 07:55.10 | daave | cantido: thanks for your encouragement |
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| 07:55.30 | cantido | simplechat: by default gunzip unpacks the file in place, you can't do that in /proc |
| 07:55.30 | daave | cantido: what exactly should I do next? |
| 07:55.43 | simplechat | ah, ok |
| 07:55.45 | simplechat | that makes sense |
| 07:55.49 | simplechat | i think i've gotten it now :) |
| 07:55.55 | cantido | daave: can you boot your system up with the rescue mode from a debian cd? |
| 07:56.00 | simplechat | thanks cantido yareckon :D |
| 07:56.48 | daave | cantido: I'm in the LiveCD system rightnow, but not the rescue mode. Need I reboot it? |
| 07:57.07 | cantido | daave: nah, that should be fine, chroot into your system |
| 07:57.52 | daave | cantido: ok, in a minute |
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| 07:58.51 | mischief | does anyone who uses lxde know where i can find 'lxsession edit' in my menu..? |
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| 08:01.56 | daave | cantido: Done. And then? |
| 08:02.13 | cantido | daave: run grub in the chroot |
| 08:02.33 | cantido | daave: and do find /boot/grub/stage1 |
| 08:03.03 | daave | cantido: it gives (hd0,0) |
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| 08:03.20 | dv_ | hello |
| 08:03.21 | simplechat | hey, is there any good tutorials as to how to set up openvpn on debian 5.0? i see lots for etch, but nothing for lenny |
| 08:03.41 | dv_ | I tried using the testing small iso CD installer, |
| 08:03.47 | cantido | daave: if you do root(hd0,0) does it detect the right fs type etc? |
| 08:03.52 | dv_ | but for some reason my keyboard isnt recognized by the installer |
| 08:03.54 | dv_ | the mouse is though |
| 08:04.08 | dv_ | now, can I just use a lenny install CD and later upgrade to testing? |
| 08:04.19 | cantido | dv_: yes |
| 08:04.19 | dv_ | or is it preferable to install testing right from the beginning? |
| 08:04.34 | dv_ | okay |
| 08:04.45 | dv_ | will try that. thanks |
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| 08:06.29 | rbo_ | hi! how enable logging in cron? |
| 08:06.35 | rbo_ | how to* |
| 08:06.43 | daave | cantido: yeah |
| 08:06.44 | ssm | rbo_: cron should already log |
| 08:06.55 | cantido | rbo_: output is mailed to the address in $MAILTO |
| 08:07.22 | cantido | daave: ok, last time you did setup (hd0) yeah? |
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| 08:07.54 | daave | cantido: yeah |
| 08:08.14 | daave | cantido: that's not right? |
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| 08:09.26 | cantido | daave: nope thats right |
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| 08:11.47 | daave | cantido: then this is almost exactly what I did last time! |
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| 08:12.14 | cantido | daave: yup, i'm just looking into what is causing the error 17 |
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| 08:12.52 | daave | cantido: Now I reboot? which I must leave this room |
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| 08:17.09 | rbo_ | ssm: it doesn't log anything |
| 08:17.23 | rbo_ | ssm: at least i can't see it |
| 08:17.28 | yareckon | rbo_, usually also shows in syslog? |
| 08:17.40 | cantido | daave: what fs type is root? |
| 08:17.58 | yareckon | but ssm is right, usually it will be mailed to whoever is in $MAILTO |
| 08:18.18 | yareckon | I have to set $MAILTO="" to get it to stop bothering me :) |
| 08:18.30 | daave | cantido: ext3 |
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| 08:22.40 | caraconan | Hi. There's a plugin for iceweasel to play .mp3 directly ? Like totem-plugin to watch 'on line' .avi and so on.. |
| 08:22.53 | nas2 | guys what is this error and how to make it disappear? i did a search it says something like memory error but not so sure |
| 08:22.55 | nas2 | Jun 22 16:17:02 vpsmisc04 kernel: EDAC MC0: CE page 0xbf484, offset 0x0, grain 4096, syndrome 0x61, row 3, channel 1, label "": i82875p CE |
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| 08:24.29 | JyZyXEL | its annoying cause its set to (0,0) now |
| 08:24.43 | JyZyXEL | all the windows spawn under the top panel |
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| 08:30.15 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 08:30.32 | mcgreg | what do I lack when an application says: Can't open /dev/dsp: No such file or directory ( I am using alsa) |
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| 08:32.11 | caraconan | <mcgreg> 1: (as root) ls -la /dev/ | grep dsp |
| 08:32.17 | caraconan | Exists /dev/dsp? |
| 08:32.25 | caraconan | If the answer is yes: |
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| 08:32.35 | daave | hi, I've rebooted, debian items are still not working, however, encouraging news is that after modified the (hd0, 0) to (hd0, 2), which is the right ntfs partition, the windows got booted |
| 08:32.48 | caraconan | (as root) chmod -G sound,group1,group2... my_user |
| 08:32.54 | mcgreg | crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 28 2009-06-22 10:13 adsp1 and crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 19 2009-06-22 10:13 dsp1 |
| 08:33.00 | caraconan | Then close my_user session and login again |
| 08:34.25 | mcgreg | hmm well, /dev/dsp doesnt exists, just /dev/dsp1 ... which isnt the same I guess |
| 08:34.29 | caraconan | <mcgreg> lspci -vv > /tmp/log.txt |
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| 08:34.37 | caraconan | Then nano /tmp/log.txt |
| 08:34.38 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 08:34.45 | caraconan | And search something like: |
| 08:35.07 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m668e8f80 |
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| 08:35.21 | mcgreg | hmm before we both get too deep into something. general soundsa works just normally .. it is just some old application doesnt do it |
| 08:35.27 | caraconan | Well, one previous question: as root do you have sound? |
| 08:36.28 | caraconan | If you have sound, and is not a user-related issue, you can try with this workaround: |
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| 08:36.34 | mcgreg | I have sound as user as well... with just about everything. actually it is "e-uae" I just tested abd it didnt work with sound with that error. I thought it would be some kind of oss-stuff. but I have alsa-oss emulation installed so I woindererd |
| 08:36.40 | caraconan | ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp |
| 08:36.57 | mcgreg | a hacky trick, but I'll try ;) |
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| 08:37.09 | caraconan | ok |
| 08:37.45 | mcgreg | lol it did it ;) |
| 08:38.15 | mcgreg | thx you caraconan :) |
| 08:38.45 | caraconan | De nada... I should learn how to say that in english... :) |
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| 08:39.14 | yareckon | anyone know when debian is going to go to a diff based package updates? (he says, donning his fire-resistant jacket, after downloading 100MB again today) |
| 08:39.29 | yareckon | yeah, run stable, yadda yadda yadda |
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| 08:39.47 | yareckon | what are the biggest roadblocks? |
| 08:39.57 | mesa_booger | yareckon: not any time soon. but you are right, fwiw |
| 08:40.11 | yareckon | packaging difficulty? |
| 08:40.23 | mesa_booger | inertia and stupidity |
| 08:40.33 | yareckon | a mighty combination |
| 08:40.52 | yareckon | is not a packager, so I can't complain |
| 08:41.27 | fender0107401 | Hi all, how to get a default debian stable's sources.list? |
| 08:41.33 | mcgreg | caraconan: you mean "you're welcome"? :) |
| 08:42.01 | caraconan | In spanish: (A) Gracias (thanks) (B) De nada (¿?) |
| 08:42.08 | caraconan | The answer to 'thanks' |
| 08:42.14 | mcgreg | you're welcome |
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| 08:42.20 | caraconan | ok, thanks |
| 08:42.21 | caraconan | :) |
| 08:42.26 | mesa_booger | fender0107401: have you ... er ... lost yours ? just restore from your backup |
| 08:42.33 | fender0107401 | no |
| 08:42.46 | fender0107401 | i just want know, |
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| 08:42.49 | cantido | daave: sorry, had a phone call |
| 08:42.55 | Buck | hellos |
| 08:43.04 | Buck | what's a good/safe chrooted shell for debian? |
| 08:43.09 | yareckon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.22 | yareckon | fender0107401, ^ |
| 08:43.31 | yareckon | ignore the non-US stuff |
| 08:43.36 | yareckon | that's out of date |
| 08:43.44 | Buck | I need to set one up for my mercurial repositories |
| 08:43.52 | daave | cantido: not at all |
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| 08:44.44 | cantido | daave: did you get it working |
| 08:44.48 | fender0107401 | Did you mean in the basic sources.list should have two entry? |
| 08:45.17 | fender0107401 | One for deb package and one for security? |
| 08:45.41 | yareckon | yeah, if you don't want a sources line |
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| 08:45.58 | daave | cantido: it seems that only the partition number is set wrong, also the deiban items. After I correct it, it booting seems working now. Though another little problem come up, I can try to figure it out. Thanks for your instructions and encouragements. |
| 08:46.07 | fender0107401 | thank you ^ ^ |
| 08:46.09 | yareckon | you can put the sections (main contrib non-free) all on one like, or break them out into a line each |
| 08:46.26 | yareckon | line, rather |
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| 08:46.35 | cantido | daave: sometimes the numbers get mixed around.. |
| 08:46.48 | yareckon | fender0107401, no problem |
| 08:46.53 | fender0107401 | I hit compilation, it need long and long time. |
| 08:47.02 | daave | cantido: yeah, you helped a lot! Thanks again! :) |
| 08:47.12 | fender0107401 | no problem. |
| 08:47.39 | mesa_booger | fender0107401: to save you time - http://pastebin.ca/1469619 |
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| 08:48.26 | fender0107401 | thank |
| 08:48.41 | gihan | hi, im using debian 5 and i need to increase open file limits for a user. ive added soft and hard limit to /etc/security/limits.conf but ulimit -n shows 1024 all the time it doesnt increase. any help? |
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| 08:56.27 | dv_ | are there problems with the debian mirrors? |
| 08:56.35 | dv_ | no matter which one I try, I get GPG errors |
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| 08:58.18 | yareckon | dv_ german mirror seems to be serving up packages |
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| 08:58.32 | yareckon | that pass verification |
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| 09:02.04 | dv_ | yareckon, and when will it be ok again? |
| 09:02.08 | dv_ | how can I look this up? |
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| 09:04.55 | Iu | http://pastebin.com/m55748302 <- does this mean there's something wrong with the hard drive |
| 09:05.31 | bkraptor | what reasons are there for high kernel cpu time? |
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| 09:06.15 | QuakeLive | Anyone know a good VB book? |
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| 09:06.59 | mesa_booger | QuakeLive: sure. the far side, by gary larson |
| 09:07.15 | themill | heh |
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| 09:10.52 | bkraptor | Aldus: mount |
| 09:11.08 | OpenTokix | Aldus: dmesg |
| 09:11.15 | Aldus | trying both |
| 09:11.24 | sylarr | I am having trouble installing a new service |
| 09:11.30 | sylarr | it just doesn't run |
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| 09:11.32 | OpenTokix | Aldus: dmesg |grep sd |
| 09:11.40 | OpenTokix | would show you all scsi-devices on the system |
| 09:11.44 | Aldus | with mount i have a lot of output but only /dev/sda1 looks like a disk |
| 09:11.47 | OpenTokix | Aldus: if you don't see it - its not turned on |
| 09:13.12 | Aldus | here is the output http://nopaste.info/b909676ea6.html |
| 09:13.15 | Aldus | for dmesg |
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| 09:14.24 | OpenTokix | you have a 160G drive as /dev/sdb |
| 09:14.39 | Aldus | but it's not mounted? |
| 09:14.48 | OpenTokix | I don't know |
| 09:15.34 | Aldus | if i write mount there is no /dev/sdb |
| 09:15.36 | Aldus | only /dev/sda1 |
| 09:15.46 | OpenTokix | problem solved |
| 09:15.47 | OpenTokix | mount it |
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| 09:17.05 | Buck | in case anyone wonders, I cleared my online upload site of files older than 30 days and bigger than or equal to 1 MB, excluding images, text files and PDF files |
| 09:17.15 | Buck | oops, sorry! |
| 09:17.24 | Buck | I didn't know amsg worked cross server too >_> |
| 09:17.43 | Aldus | thanks, i'll find out how to do |
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| 09:24.54 | Aldus | once I mounted a disk it will be mounted at every pc boot |
| 09:24.55 | Aldus | ? |
| 09:25.04 | OpenTokix | Aldus: no, you have to add it to fstab |
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| 09:25.21 | Aldus | i see... :| |
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| 09:26.44 | o2T7 | Hi, I'm getting an error on subversion (using testing here) when connecting to googlecode repositories. It seems to be solved by up/downgrading libneon27-gnutls. How should I do this? |
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| 09:27.03 | Aldus | thanks seems to work |
| 09:27.22 | nkuttler | o2T7: install old version and /msg dpkg hold |
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| 09:27.44 | User947 | morning all anyone awake? |
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| 09:29.04 | User947 | i'm looking for a proxy server that will integrate with AD...any suggestions? |
| 09:30.14 | MrWax | Hi, I encountered some weird thing with debian, it won't boot again.. at least it stops starting up at a certain point, and the sound card gives some error sound... from then on, no activity from the hdd to the monitor, and the monitor goes idle, aswell as the hdd i think.. This is a new installation that has been started like 2,3 times before and nothing installed, on a clean brand new disk, with no errors (checked it). Any ideas how I can check what is |
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| 09:31.06 | Kazuha | MrWax: What is the last thing that the startup says before it freezes? |
| 09:32.17 | bkraptor | is there any page where I can read about the architectural differences between debian and ubuntu? |
| 09:32.19 | Unode-[work] | does anyone know any piece of software that works like gnu screen but supports GUI programs? |
| 09:32.26 | MrWax | Kazuha: i think starting the gnome desktop |
| 09:32.29 | MrWax | will check again in 1 min |
| 09:33.14 | nkuttler | MrWax: boot with init=/bin/sh and disable your display manager |
| 09:33.24 | mesa_booger | this sounds a bit like fglrx/nvidia blob trouble |
| 09:33.27 | simplechat | hey, i've found something very odd with debian 5.0 and openvpn |
| 09:33.34 | Aldus | seems like my new mounted usb drive doesn't have write permissions :( :( how to fix it |
| 09:33.42 | simplechat | it installed fine, but the minute it tried to run it just went into an error loop before dying horribly |
| 09:33.48 | nkuttler | Aldus: even as root? |
| 09:33.51 | petemc | simplechat: did you configure ut? |
| 09:33.56 | simplechat | yes |
| 09:34.07 | simplechat | the same way i configured my debian 4.0 openvpn server |
| 09:34.07 | petemc | simplechat: i use the lenny openvpn packages, no problems here |
| 09:34.09 | simplechat | (which its replacing) |
| 09:34.14 | simplechat | ok |
| 09:34.15 | simplechat | this is odd |
| 09:34.26 | Aldus | nkuttler: yes even as root |
| 09:34.40 | petemc | simplechat: openvpn is fairly verbose, google for the error it prints |
| 09:34.41 | simplechat | petemc, did you see lots of connection refused messages? |
| 09:34.42 | Aldus | seems like the usb drive was mounted without any write permission |
| 09:34.44 | nkuttler | Aldus: dmesg | tail, /var/log/messages |
| 09:34.46 | MrWax | nkuttler: how can I set that? |
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| 09:34.52 | simplechat | yeah, i did, nothing that i can use to actually fix it |
| 09:34.55 | MrWax | nkuttler: I have access to that partition now, so can change all files |
| 09:34.57 | Iu | is there a guide somewhere for backing up a system <.< |
| 09:35.07 | Iu | in the case of hard drive failure |
| 09:35.09 | nkuttler | !tell MrWax about nodm |
| 09:35.25 | nkuttler | Iu: there are various systems, i use backuppc |
| 09:35.26 | MrWax | nkuttler: that doesn't make sense |
| 09:35.30 | Kazuha | lu, Several -- just 99% of people don't/can't follow them. |
| 09:35.32 | nkuttler | MrWax: huh? |
| 09:35.33 | MrWax | nkuttler: since i cannot start the os |
| 09:35.46 | nkuttler | MrWax: chroot |
| 09:35.50 | MrWax | nkuttler: it crashes (or stops, whatever) |
| 09:35.53 | MrWax | nkuttler: how? |
| 09:36.03 | nkuttler | MrWax: you said you have access to the drive? |
| 09:36.11 | MrWax | nkuttler: correct, i can mount it from windows vista |
| 09:36.15 | nkuttler | ... |
| 09:36.17 | MrWax | or actually, i mount it by default |
| 09:36.19 | Kazuha | ... |
| 09:36.24 | nkuttler | !tell MrWax about i forgot root's password |
| 09:36.26 | Aldus | nkuttler: there is some error in there. Listing here: NTFS driver 2.1.27 [Flags: R/W MODULE].NTFS-fs warning (device sdb): is_boot_sector_ntfs(): Invalid boot sector checksum.NTFS-fs error (device sdb): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.NTFS-fs error (device sdb): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Mount option errors=recover not used. Aborting without trying to recover.NTFS-fs error (device sdb): ntfs_fill_super(): Not an NTFS volume. |
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| 09:36.30 | nkuttler | MrWax: that should explain |
| 09:36.34 | nkuttler | !tell Aldus about paste |
| 09:36.37 | MrWax | nkuttler: i still have the root pass |
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| 09:36.42 | Aldus | sorry |
| 09:37.09 | nkuttler | MrWax: init=foo |
| 09:37.11 | Kazuha | Aldus: That looks like you're trying to mount a non-NTFS volume as NTFS. |
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| 09:37.26 | Aldus | http://paste.debian.net/39896/ |
| 09:37.30 | MrWax | nkuttler: where should I put that? i don't understand what you're saying |
| 09:37.59 | nkuttler | MrWax: read what the bot told you |
| 09:38.03 | Kazuha | Aldus: Try changing "sdb" to "sdb1". |
| 09:38.16 | mesa_booger | Kazuha: or even a raw disk, rather than a partition ... |
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| 09:38.24 | mesa_booger | haha. you read my mind |
| 09:38.41 | Aldus | Kazuha: it's already sdb1. Should I change it to sdb? |
| 09:38.56 | Aldus | in /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1 /backup ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| 09:39.03 | nkuttler | MrWax: booting like that will let you edit files |
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| 09:39.10 | Zyferus | ext3 is not ntfs |
| 09:39.16 | Kazuha | ^ |
| 09:39.19 | nkuttler | MrWax: omit step 2 and rest |
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| 09:39.36 | nkuttler | MrWax: that is, no, mount / of course |
| 09:39.46 | OpenTokix | Aldus: Can't your hosting-place fix this for you? |
| 09:40.00 | Iu | :/ |
| 09:40.10 | Aldus | OpenTokix I would rather learn how to do it |
| 09:40.51 | Zyferus | why not: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 09:40.58 | Zyferus | see if it straight mounts |
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| 09:41.21 | Aldus | Zyferus: it didn't give errors |
| 09:41.25 | nkuttler | MrWax: still here? |
| 09:41.28 | Zyferus | ls /mnt |
| 09:42.53 | bkraptor | how can I enable mouse acceleration without changing the base sensitivity? |
| 09:43.01 | Aldus | Zyferus: still can't write on disk |
| 09:43.03 | MrWax | nkuttler: yes |
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| 09:43.22 | Aldus | I open a file with nano, try to save and it says: Error writing test.txt: Permission denied |
| 09:43.36 | nkuttler | MrWax: with a recent grub just choose the single user mode |
| 09:43.37 | MrWax | nkuttler: but where should i define i boot like that? |
| 09:43.42 | MrWax | nkuttler: ah yes |
| 09:43.43 | Kazuha | Aldus: "hdparm /dev/sdb" |
| 09:43.43 | MrWax | sec |
| 09:43.49 | nkuttler | forgot about that |
| 09:44.13 | Aldus | readonly = 0 (off) |
| 09:44.24 | Aldus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.29 | Kazuha | So HW readonly is off. |
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| 09:44.39 | Kazuha | Readonly was the only relevant one. |
| 09:44.49 | Aldus | yes, so it's a mistery? |
| 09:45.12 | Aldus | someone suggested that I built it as ntfs but maybe it was some different kind |
| 09:45.16 | Aldus | I have no problem in reformatting it all |
| 09:45.24 | Aldus | (if this could solve the problem) |
| 09:45.35 | aprendiz001 | I have problems with horde3 in debian lenny |
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| 09:45.42 | Suzu | hello |
| 09:45.47 | aprendiz001 | when I want to werite an email de mail from is like user@ |
| 09:45.59 | aprendiz001 | and son doesn't work |
| 09:46.04 | nkuttler | Aldus: did you try mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/foo -t auto ? |
| 09:46.09 | aprendiz001 | how can I add my domain? |
| 09:46.11 | nkuttler | Aldus: and sdb1 of course |
| 09:46.24 | Kazuha | I can't see why you wouldn't be able to write to it -- its permissions (although fstype was different) default, which includes RW. The drive itself is also RW. |
| 09:46.26 | nkuttler | aprendiz001: configure your mta? |
| 09:46.46 | nkuttler | ah, horde |
| 09:46.50 | aprendiz001 | yes |
| 09:46.52 | Aldus | -bash: /dev/sdb1: Permission denied |
| 09:46.55 | greenmang0 | Aldus: what does mount | grep /dev/sdb1 say? |
| 09:47.00 | nkuttler | Aldus: as root of course |
| 09:47.12 | nkuttler | aprendiz001: well, can you send mail to remote hosts at all? |
| 09:47.53 | Aldus | greenmang0: /dev/sdb1 on /backup type ntfs (rw) - /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw) |
| 09:47.56 | aprendiz001 | I can't send any mail |
| 09:47.58 | aprendiz001 | from horde |
| 09:48.08 | aprendiz001 | because it wants to verify mail from |
| 09:48.14 | aprendiz001 | and appear user@ |
| 09:48.17 | aprendiz001 | but no my domain |
| 09:48.36 | aprendiz001 | I can't find anything for that setting in horde |
| 09:48.37 | MrWax | nkuttler: i was able to boot into the bash shell now |
| 09:48.39 | nkuttler | !tell Aldus about ntfsrw |
| 09:49.00 | greenmang0 | Aldus: oh.. ntfs.. that means you have ntfs-3g installed |
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| 09:49.04 | nkuttler | aprendiz001: it's most likely not a horde setting |
| 09:49.16 | Aldus | nkuttler: mounted it again as you said, with auto, still permission denied |
| 09:49.20 | aprendiz001 | what is then? |
| 09:49.20 | nkuttler | aprendiz001: try sending mail via mutt etc |
| 09:49.25 | Aldus | greenmang0: I guess i installed it some time ago yes |
| 09:49.27 | aprendiz001 | ok |
| 09:49.29 | nkuttler | Aldus: read what the bot told you |
| 09:49.33 | Zyferus | oh |
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| 09:49.45 | Zyferus | yea ntfs-3g |
| 09:50.04 | Aldus | yes... |
| 09:50.12 | nkuttler | MrWax: now, /msg dpkg nodm |
| 09:50.13 | Aldus | ok i have to unmount all those drives now |
| 09:50.14 | Zyferus | and mounted with ntfs3g? |
| 09:50.17 | Zyferus | yea |
| 09:50.49 | greenmang0 | Aldus: mount -o remount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /backup |
| 09:51.00 | greenmang0 | this may work ... correct me if i am wrong guys |
| 09:51.19 | MrWax | nkuttler: what ways i can check what exactly's going wrong when booting? |
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| 09:51.40 | Aldus | it says i have to umount first, but if i umount it says that device is busy |
| 09:51.41 | Aldus | :X |
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| 09:52.01 | nkuttler | MrWax: see /var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/dmesg, but disabling the dm should give you the chance to fix your x |
| 09:52.08 | MrWax | nkuttler: i might know it! after the installation of debian on the partition and booting it once more again i changed video card.. |
| 09:52.20 | MrWax | nkuttler: maybe it's messed up there cause there is a new card which it doesn't recognise? |
| 09:52.21 | greenmang0 | then try this -> lsof /dev/sdb1 and check which process is using your drive |
| 09:52.27 | nkuttler | MrWax: likely |
| 09:52.28 | Davinken | Hi guys one question the keyboard of my laptop is always locked on numeric did you know the shortcut to change that ?? |
| 09:52.28 | greenmang0 | Aldus: ^^ |
| 09:52.50 | l403 | hello, the movieplayer crashed on me leaving an XVideo port open and now another player complains about not finding a free port. How can I fix this? do I have to restart Xserver? |
| 09:53.06 | l403 | Davinken, usually in the BIOS |
| 09:53.30 | Davinken | l403: no it s not inside it s a shortcut like shift and something but don t remember it .. |
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| 09:53.50 | nkuttler | l403: i guess killing the process won't do? |
| 09:53.53 | greenmang0 | Davinken: or if you are a KDE user.. then you can find settings in kde control center |
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| 09:53.58 | zxd | hi |
| 09:54.17 | MrWax | nkuttler: any idea what could be a fix to that? |
| 09:54.18 | Davinken | greenmang0: i tried it with gnome but don t find the correct things ... |
| 09:54.19 | zxd | Does anyone know of a quota alert gui that notifies users their quota is reaching the limit ? |
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| 09:55.10 | l403 | nkuttler, oh, it was still running although it crashed. solved, thank you |
| 09:55.12 | nkuttler | MrWax: errr, not sure how that works in lenny. |
| 09:55.26 | nkuttler | MrWax: try to simply move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way |
| 09:55.36 | greenmang0 | Davinken: then look inside your BIOS.. |
| 09:55.44 | Aldus | I still can't mount this £$"$! drive, says: Failed to startup volume: Device or resource busy. lsof /dev/sdb1 doesn't give results |
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| 09:56.21 | nkuttler | MrWax: then run startx, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 09:56.24 | Davinken | greenmang0: BIOS will not change it s not BIOS it s under X |
| 09:56.37 | MrWax | nkuttler: ok, should i do that as first step? |
| 09:56.42 | aprendiz001 | nkuttler, the problem about the horder is the settings |
| 09:56.46 | nkuttler | MrWax: as opposed to what? |
| 09:56.52 | Aldus | yes it worked!!! |
| 09:56.55 | aprendiz001 | I want to add for all the users @mydomain.com |
| 09:56.57 | Aldus | yuhu! Finally! Thanks guys |
| 09:56.57 | MrWax | nkuttler: your first options |
| 09:57.02 | nkuttler | what was that? |
| 09:57.04 | greenmang0 | Davinken: sorry then :) |
| 09:57.11 | aprendiz001 | for example fro thunderbird I have to configure myself |
| 09:57.16 | Aldus | nkuttler: I had to umount /sdb1 and umounted /sdb |
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| 09:57.32 | Aldus | then mounting with ntfs-3g as greenmang0 suggested worked perfectly |
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| 09:58.15 | greenmang0 | Aldus: party time!!! ;) |
| 09:58.26 | Aldus | yes, now first rsync experiment :) |
| 09:59.29 | MrWax | nkuttler: deleting the gnome env? |
| 10:00.15 | nkuttler | MrWax: i didn't say that |
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| 10:00.24 | nkuttler | MrWax: although it's always a good move :) |
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| 10:03.02 | o2T7 | nkuttler: thanks for the info (downgrade and hold thing ;) |
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| 10:04.01 | Kazuha | I remember that once, KDM wouldn't accept keyboard input if it loaded on boot. |
| 10:04.26 | Kazuha | That was last board, and over two years ago. |
| 10:05.31 | MrWax | nkuttler: ok, i deleted the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx and it did the same stuff |
| 10:06.05 | MrWax | nkuttler: where should i check for in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
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| 10:06.25 | nkuttler | MrWax: pastebin it |
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| 10:09.32 | MrWax | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/m7f625ca6 |
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| 10:11.51 | nkuttler | MrWax: hm, that looks like x should work |
| 10:12.00 | nkuttler | MrWax: it's the output of startx? |
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| 10:12.27 | MrWax | nkuttler: it's the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.conf |
| 10:12.36 | MrWax | eh |
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| 10:12.44 | MrWax | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 10:12.46 | MrWax | i mean |
| 10:12.51 | nkuttler | MrWax: ok, restore your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin it |
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| 10:13.47 | MrWax | nkuttler: the old one i backed up? |
| 10:14.24 | nkuttler | yes |
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| 10:16.14 | MrWax | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/m14358256 |
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| 10:17.26 | nkuttler | MrWax: add Driver "vesa" to the Device section and try startx again |
| 10:17.29 | orion_x11 | How to avoid the loss of my dns number in /etc/resolv.conf every time that I boot my machine? |
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| 10:17.42 | _Brandon_ | hi, is it possible to know why/who did a reboot of a server? |
| 10:17.47 | nkuttler | MrWax: http://pastebin.com/m4f91604f |
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| 10:22.44 | MrWax | nkuttler: did that, no change |
| 10:23.01 | MrWax | nkuttler: the monitor doesn't get any signals any more from the video card i think from the moment gnome boots |
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| 10:23.37 | nkuttler | MrWax: yeah... i'd try to disable anything that's framebuffer-related and try other drivers |
| 10:23.45 | nkuttler | MrWax: or google xorg.conf + your card |
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| 10:25.07 | mnabil | guys , i want to apt-get dist-upgrade but down the files only , not installing them ? |
| 10:25.13 | mnabil | pt-get -d dist-upgrade don't work |
| 10:25.16 | mnabil | *apt-get |
| 10:25.21 | MrWax | nkuttler: ATI Radeon HD 4650 |
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| 10:28.19 | zu22 | getting error when i try to install package slime in squeeze |
| 10:28.55 | zu22 | can someone take a look at my error? |
| 10:28.55 | Iu | is there a way to exclude a folder when using cp? |
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| 10:29.19 | zu22 | http://zu22.pastebin.com/fef3e71e |
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| 10:30.38 | orion_x11 | greybot: it is a bash question because I have heard that there is a command line called chattr that can do the job, but some people say that it does not work which RaiseFS |
| 10:31.26 | orion_x11 | how do I avoid /etc/resolv.cof nameserver of losing its number when booting my machine? |
| 10:31.58 | petemc | orion_x11: /msg dpkg fixresolvconf |
| 10:32.16 | orion_x11 | how do I avoid /etc/resolv.cof nameserver of losing its number when booting my machine? |
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| 10:35.51 | zu22 | any ideas? |
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| 10:36.26 | simplechat | zu22, what are you trying to do? |
| 10:37.03 | violin | Look, I need to install a system with KDE. During the install, there are no Internet or network access. What CDs or DVDs do I need? |
| 10:37.25 | caraconan | <orion_x11> Do you wan't to 'mantain' the content of /etc/resolv.conf from boot to boot? |
| 10:37.31 | zu22 | simplechat: install slime on squeexe |
| 10:37.36 | zu22 | squeeze |
| 10:37.41 | simplechat | ok |
| 10:37.43 | zu22 | simplechat: it fails with the error in my pastebin |
| 10:38.05 | orion_x11 | caraconan: Yes. That's it :-) |
| 10:38.20 | simplechat | yeah, i can't make heads or tails of it |
| 10:38.21 | simplechat | sorry |
| 10:38.24 | caraconan | Well, I assume you receive the ip from a dhcp server. Is'nt it? |
| 10:38.42 | petemc | orion_x11: did you read what dpkg said? |
| 10:39.35 | greenmang0 | violin: single cd will do |
| 10:39.50 | caraconan | <orion_x11> The answer is that if you receive the local ip from a DHCP server, you should rename the file to avoid losing it |
| 10:39.52 | orion_x11 | caraconan: No. Everytime I have to write that by hand. It is annoying |
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| 10:40.12 | caraconan | No = no, I manually configure my network? |
| 10:40.29 | caraconan | Can you paste you /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 10:41.01 | greenmang0 | violin: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
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| 10:42.25 | violin | The first CD contains KDE? What about GNOME? |
| 10:42.28 | K0t0x | salut |
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| 10:42.34 | iamjay | hi there: ) |
| 10:42.42 | nkuttler | greenmang0: why do you recommend the testing installer? |
| 10:42.46 | iamjay | im just ssh'ed into a debian machine.. whats the simple update command there? |
| 10:42.57 | nkuttler | iamjay: to update what? |
| 10:43.22 | MrWax | nkuttler: any idea? |
| 10:43.23 | iamjay | dunno... any package.. just the syntax :) |
| 10:43.24 | K0t0x | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
| 10:43.30 | nkuttler | MrWax: google |
| 10:43.35 | greenmang0 | nkuttler: just because it contains newer packages... |
| 10:43.37 | nkuttler | iamjay: man aptitude |
| 10:43.46 | iamjay | K0t0x and for a single package? |
| 10:44.19 | K0t0x | apt-get update package maybe? i don't know |
| 10:44.26 | nkuttler | K0t0x: no |
| 10:44.27 | greenmang0 | nkuttler: am I wrong? |
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| 10:44.47 | nkuttler | violin: be prepared not to get much support here if you run testing |
| 10:45.35 | K0t0x | i've a question: i have a server with 4Gb ram and debian lenny i386 |
| 10:45.37 | violin | I see |
| 10:45.41 | K0t0x | i see 3.3Gb ram |
| 10:45.57 | nkuttler | violin: cdimage.debian.org should have stable kde installers |
| 10:46.00 | K0t0x | in 32bits it's possible to view 4gb? |
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| 10:46.19 | nkuttler | !tell K0t0x about bigmem |
| 10:46.22 | greenmang0 | violin: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 10:46.37 | xor1 | Hi there. |
| 10:47.01 | nkuttler | MrWax: maybe he radeon driver, no diea |
| 10:47.03 | nkuttler | idea |
| 10:47.08 | xor1 | Does anyone have a server on the US? I want to test the bandwidth of a server of mine. |
| 10:47.09 | K0t0x | thx nkuttler |
| 10:47.17 | MrWax | nkuttler: i'm googling and checking topics a bit, seems there is no real solution |
| 10:47.23 | agaran | xor1: try to downloading something from sunsite for example? |
| 10:47.25 | xor1 | Can someone please download wafercorp.com/ubuntu.iso and tell me how fast they get it? |
| 10:47.40 | MrWax | kinda strange, i thought debian had drivers for almost every video card now |
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| 10:47.57 | MrWax | specially for one that's such a lot around |
| 10:47.59 | violin | Oh, I see. |
| 10:48.01 | nkuttler | MrWax: as i said, try without the framebuffer stuff |
| 10:48.09 | agaran | xor1: you want to check upload, sorry then |
| 10:48.24 | MrWax | nkuttler: where can i set that? |
| 10:48.32 | violin | Thank you all! |
| 10:48.33 | nkuttler | MrWax: in the config. fb* |
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| 10:48.50 | MrWax | nkuttler: fb*? |
| 10:48.53 | MrWax | ah |
| 10:48.53 | nkuttler | MrWax: actually, you'd probably have to read some man pages |
| 10:48.58 | OpenTokix | xor1: slow |
| 10:49.28 | MrWax | nkuttler: i don't see anything framebuffer related in the xorg.conf file? |
| 10:49.43 | nkuttler | MrWax: that's the new way of xorg autodetecting stuff... |
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| 10:50.21 | OpenTokix | xor1: trying from us, now - getting 100Mbit |
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| 10:51.04 | MrWax | nkuttler: but where can i find it? |
| 10:51.07 | xor1 | OpenTokix: Is it stable? |
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| 10:51.13 | OpenTokix | xor1: no |
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| 10:51.25 | OpenTokix | xor1: just dropped from 10MB/sec to 5kB/sec |
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| 10:51.49 | xor1 | OpenTokix: Weird. |
| 10:52.11 | xor1 | Let me try something OpenTokix. |
| 10:53.02 | xor1 | OpenTokix: Could you please try again? |
| 10:53.10 | Orion_X11_ | caraconan: http://paste.debian.net/39900/ |
| 10:53.24 | xor1 | I turned off traffic control. |
| 10:53.34 | xor1 | Want to see if it has anything to do with it. |
| 10:53.59 | OpenTokix | xor1: slow |
| 10:53.59 | caraconan | Then your /etc/resolv.conf might look like this: |
| 10:54.07 | caraconan | nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 10:54.14 | caraconan | Try this solution |
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| 10:59.04 | xor1 | Thanks OpenTokix. I'm going to try and fix this. |
| 10:59.14 | xor1 | Where is your server located btw OpenTokix? |
| 10:59.21 | OpenTokix | xor1: New York |
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| 11:02.49 | Orion_X11_ | caraconan: that solution did not work |
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| 11:03.06 | Orion_X11_ | :-( |
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| 11:04.07 | sphenxes | I try to mount my DVD (copied long ago using K3B). i get the following error. invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume. How can I solve this problem, second: how can I know the type format of the DVD files? (debian lenny) |
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| 11:04.29 | caraconan | Orion_X11_ that means. |
| 11:04.50 | caraconan | 1. You edited /etc/resolv.conf with 'nameserver 192.168.0.1', save and quit |
| 11:04.52 | caraconan | 2. Reboot |
| 11:05.03 | caraconan | 3. cat /etc/resolv.conf and the content changed |
| 11:05.18 | caraconan | I'm right? That's what happened? |
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| 11:05.33 | mesa_booger | that means that dhclient wrote into it |
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| 11:05.50 | caraconan | Impossible with http://paste.debian.net/39900/ |
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| 11:06.05 | orion_x11 | caraconan: I did not reboot, but > /etc/init.d/ network restart |
| 11:07.09 | caraconan | Well, just try rebooting |
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| 11:07.09 | xor1 | OpenTokix: Are you still there? |
| 11:07.09 | OpenTokix | xor1: yes |
| 11:07.15 | xor1 | Great, can you try downloading this instead please? http://66.219.23.98/images/ubuntu.iso |
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| 11:07.39 | orion_x11 | caraconan: I will try then. Wait |
| 11:07.45 | OpenTokix | xor1: equally slow |
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| 11:07.59 | mesa_booger | orion_x11: : edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and add "prepend domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1" or whatever you fancy. but dhcp should get this right anyways |
| 11:08.06 | caraconan | You're wellcome |
| 11:08.09 | xor1 | OpenTokix: The speed isn't increasing at all? |
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| 11:08.14 | OpenTokix | no |
| 11:08.31 | xor1 | OpenTokix: What's the speed? |
| 11:08.41 | OpenTokix | xor1: 5k |
| 11:08.51 | kripz | im following a guide on compiling the kernel. one step is to use "mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8.1 2.6.8.1", i do not have the version of my recently compiled kernel, did i miss a step? |
| 11:10.09 | OpenTokix | xor1: eta 89 min |
| 11:10.09 | xor1 | That's odd, even from PT I get around 1.5MB. |
| 11:10.29 | xor1 | OpenTokix: eheh, which datacenter are you hosted at? |
| 11:10.50 | OpenTokix | xor1: big and fast inc. |
| 11:10.57 | cantido | kripz: why aren't you using kernel-package? |
| 11:11.15 | kripz | cantido, is there a RT kernel? |
| 11:11.40 | cantido | kripz: you can build one with kernel-package.. |
| 11:11.52 | kripz | cantido, oh i just used the first link from google |
| 11:12.01 | xor1 | Thanks OpenTokix. I'll see if I can try with another datacenter. |
| 11:12.27 | xor1 | Does anyone have a server in the US with 100mbit connection to test my server upload? |
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| 11:17.54 | K0t0x | i'v anotehr problem with my debian, i'v an optiplex 760 with an ethernet intel 82567LM-3 |
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| 11:18.20 | K0t0x | my interface is not recognized |
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| 11:31.09 | Orion_X11_ | caraconan: I rebooted the machine, lost the dns number and had to edit it again by hand :-( |
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| 11:31.35 | MrWax | Anyone in here knows how or if it's possible to have debian gnome running with a ATI Radeon HD 4650 video card? I checked around on various topics, but couldn't find any solution yet |
| 11:32.04 | caraconan | If you do a ifconfig the 'ethx' is the same than '/etc/network/interfaces'? |
| 11:32.09 | cantido | MrWax: Your issue isn't gnome, it's Xorg |
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| 11:33.02 | abrotman | MrWax: does the ati binary driver or radeonhd support your card? |
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| 11:33.36 | MrWax | abrotman: how can I checked? |
| 11:33.37 | MrWax | check |
| 11:34.05 | MrWax | it boots normally, until gnome should start, from then on, no signal from the video card to the monitor anymore |
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| 11:34.29 | abrotman | supposedly fgrlx supports it |
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| 11:34.46 | abrotman | !radeonhd |
| 11:34.46 | dpkg | [radeonhd] the AMD/ATI <FOSS> display driver for the Radeon r5xx and r6xx family of chipsets (http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd). Packaged for Debian as 'xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd' from Lenny. For other ATI chipsets, use the 'ati' xorg driver or ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. #radeonhd on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:35.22 | miniBill | I just installed VirtualBox, but I can't modprobe vboxdrv |
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| 11:36.10 | fhrosppek | anyone use xen |
| 11:36.13 | MrWax | abrotman: ok, but how can I install the package xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd? I have no internet connectivty in singleuser mode.. Although I can put files on the disk when I mount it in vista |
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| 11:36.25 | abrotman | it's not single user mode |
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| 11:36.30 | abrotman | and if you don't have internet, i'd fix that first |
| 11:37.00 | abrotman | okay .. don't wait |
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| 11:38.10 | Mark17 | after using scp to move an image file from a system to another system I get the following error "mount: could not find any free loop device", when I do "mount -o loop /home/xen/domains/vnc/disk.img /home/vnc/" other images that are moved in the same way are working normally. What could be the problem? |
| 11:38.11 | MrWax | abrotman: i can only boot into that |
| 11:38.16 | sylarr | what package is the command "mail"? |
| 11:38.23 | sylarr | (I get to many results) |
| 11:38.24 | abrotman | MrWax: it's not single user mode |
| 11:38.27 | MrWax | abrotman: i can't boot into normal mode cause it stops when booting into gnome |
| 11:38.29 | MrWax | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 11:38.30 | abrotman | !tel sylarr about apt-file |
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| 11:38.39 | EmleyMoor | sylarr: mailx IIRC |
| 11:38.44 | abrotman | !nodm |
| 11:38.45 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm slim". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console. |
| 11:39.05 | vi390 | does someone have an idea why after dist-upgrade my courier-authdaemon can not longer log into mysql. It just doesnt do it, and keeps writing "Access denied for user 'exim'@'localhost'" the user is still in the authdaemon config, havent changed anything there |
| 11:39.11 | nirupama | How to create deb package from external source where I dont know exactly what that source is doin |
| 11:39.26 | sylarr | abrotman, # apt-file find mail|wc |
| 11:39.26 | sylarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.46 | miniBill | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:40.52 | vi390 | vi390: .. ah , and .. everything else can log into mysql qith the credentials |
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| 11:42.24 | nkuttler | miniBill: did you build the module? |
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| 11:43.14 | sylarr | EmleyMoor, thanks |
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| 11:43.39 | miniBill | nkuttler: I really dunno |
| 11:43.42 | miniBill | how to check? |
| 11:44.09 | nkuttler | miniBill: modprobe vboxdrv.. |
| 11:44.18 | miniBill | FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found. |
| 11:44.20 | nkuttler | !tell miniBill about vbox-install lenny |
| 11:45.06 | nirupama | How to create deb package from external source where I dont know exactly what that source is doing |
| 11:45.13 | nirupama | any help |
| 11:45.29 | nkuttler | !tell nirupama about newmaint |
| 11:45.52 | miniBill | nkuttler: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found. |
| 11:46.03 | nkuttler | miniBill: read what the bot told you |
| 11:46.30 | miniBill | nkuttler: read it, it still fails |
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| 11:46.37 | nkuttler | miniBill: reading isn't enough.. |
| 11:46.45 | miniBill | nkuttler: also done it of course :) |
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| 11:47.02 | miniBill | nkuttler: MindCr seems to have spotted smthing: I'm building the kernel from source |
| 11:47.13 | sylarr | Is sendmail an smtp daemon? |
| 11:47.24 | nkuttler | !tell miniBill about virtualbox |
| 11:47.35 | nkuttler | miniBill: the wiki has instructions iirc |
| 11:47.41 | miniBill | nkuttler: ty |
| 11:48.02 | nkuttler | sylarr: usually, yes |
| 11:48.14 | vi390 | does someone have an idea why when I try to login to my imap with "telnet someip 143" i get an "imaplogin expected exactly two arguments" |
| 11:48.23 | petemc | sylarr: yes, its also the name for a method of submitting mail on unix systems, not over smtp |
| 11:48.27 | phorce1 | well, getting the activity off of that drive should help me last a few days longer. 313G /home is now a symlink to another directory on another drive. I hate having a symlink /home |
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| 11:49.00 | nkuttler | vi390: that doesn't make sense. you should get a prompt |
| 11:49.02 | petemc | vi390: you pass the username and the password to login |
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| 11:49.44 | vi390 | petemc: no I did not, I thought this comes later |
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| 11:49.52 | petemc | vi390: well yes, it should |
| 11:49.55 | nkuttler | vi390: google debug imap telnet or similar |
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| 11:51.10 | abrotman | sylarr: apt-file search bin/mail |
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| 11:51.23 | MrWax | abrotman: this default-display-manager , in that file , can I comment the current line /usr/bin/gdm out (#/usr/bin/gdm?) or won't it read properly |
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| 11:53.27 | nkuttler | !tell miniBill about selftell |
| 11:54.59 | abrotman | MrWax: try it and see |
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| 11:57.18 | Decepticon | in command line, how do i move /maindir/subdir/* into /maindir/ , but there are many subdir and all oftheir contents have the same dir names like /maindir/subdir_1/2001/* and /maindir/subdir_2/2001/* |
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| 11:58.20 | nkuttler | Decepticon: hm? |
| 11:58.29 | nkuttler | Decepticon: use cp? |
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| 11:59.31 | nkuttler | Decepticon: or write a script or a loop |
| 11:59.48 | Decepticon | nkuttler my concern is that i want to retain the 2001 dir strucutre and its files underneath without any overwrites |
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| 12:00.30 | Decepticon | nkuttler so i end up with /maindir/2001/*uniqeu_files* |
| 12:00.34 | Decepticon | *unique |
| 12:00.55 | K0t0x | anyone know how to ifup a intel corporation 82567LM-3 gigabit, because driver e1000e don't work |
| 12:01.37 | K0t0x | i've 2.6.26-2-686 bigmem |
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| 12:01.45 | MrWax | abrotman: that package you mentioned is already installed by defalt |
| 12:01.48 | iamjay | hey hmm, where are kernel sources usually stored? tried /usr/src/ |
| 12:01.50 | iamjay | but its empty |
| 12:01.50 | iamjay | :( |
| 12:02.11 | petemc | iamjay: did you install a linux-source package? use dpkg -L |
| 12:02.13 | miniBill | iamjay: you should install the correct package |
| 12:02.42 | iamjay | ahw.. alright.. thanks.. sec I can tell you what package it was in a sec |
| 12:02.43 | abrotman | MrWax: doesn't mean your veresion of that driver supports it |
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| 12:03.05 | petemc | iamjay: no need to tell us, dpkg -L packagename will show you what files it installed |
| 12:03.11 | abrotman | K0t0x: see backports.org for a .29 kernel |
| 12:03.39 | K0t0x | ok thx i will see |
| 12:03.46 | Decepticon | nkuttler for example im getting mv: cannot move `1989' to `../1989': Directory not empty |
| 12:03.55 | MrWax | abrotman: so where should I look for then? |
| 12:03.55 | Decepticon | nkuttler how do i solve this |
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| 12:04.15 | abrotman | MrWax: the man page might help .. or /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 12:04.37 | MrWax | abrotman: what's up with that file? Already checked it |
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| 12:05.53 | nkuttler | Decepticon: mv 1989/* or cp -R etc... |
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| 12:06.27 | nkuttler | Decepticon: do you know how to write simple bash loops? |
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| 12:07.13 | Decepticon | nkuttler its sort of hard if i have to go into each /maindir/subdir/1989/ and mv * into ../../ |
| 12:07.43 | valdyn | Decepticon: use cp |
| 12:07.46 | Decepticon | i would rather just do inside /maindir/subdir/ ... that mv * ../ ... but i cannot do this for all subdir because the dirs are the same |
| 12:07.53 | Decepticon | ie: directory not empty error |
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| 12:08.22 | Decepticon | why must the directory be empty for me to move stuff into it |
| 12:08.40 | valdyn | Decepticon: mv does not 'move' accross mount points |
| 12:08.47 | valdyn | Decepticon: it has to copy and delete |
| 12:09.47 | abrotman | MrWax: did you read it? look for errors? |
| 12:09.54 | valdyn | Decepticon: you should read mv as rename |
| 12:10.04 | MrWax | abrotman: yes, but nothing weird |
| 12:10.06 | valdyn | Decepticon: then it makes sense that you cannot rename accross mount points |
| 12:10.40 | valdyn | Decepticon: now if source and destination were on the same mount point, the directory would not have to be empty |
| 12:10.50 | Decepticon | i dont know what youre referring about mount points for |
| 12:11.10 | Decepticon | look at my tree output maybe it will make more sense what im tryhing to do http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1245672620 |
| 12:11.12 | valdyn | Decepticon: different disks or partitions |
| 12:11.25 | phorce1 | moving lots of files/subdirectories is where a (cough cough) GUI file manager comes in handy. Even a curses based GUI like mc |
| 12:11.35 | Decepticon | i want to get rid of the "root" dirs there and move all the same dirs into 1 dir |
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| 12:11.58 | Decepticon | want to get rid of Convertible Coupe and so on and just have 1989, 1990 and year dirs only |
| 12:12.01 | valdyn | Decepticon: reread what i said |
| 12:12.08 | Decepticon | ok |
| 12:12.10 | valdyn | Decepticon: and use one of the solutions you got told, not mv |
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| 12:12.43 | [AM]-Kasp | New web browser based game, intresting and fun peoples, nice admins and more, enjoy - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844 |
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| 12:12.56 | valdyn | spammer |
| 12:14.04 | Kazuha | Why do I somehow think that 87.110.242.186 will end up G-lined or Z-lined? |
| 12:14.30 | Decepticon | why? he doesnt deserve it? |
| 12:14.34 | Decepticon | why wouldnt he be |
| 12:14.49 | zinx | no, he definitely deserves it |
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| 12:15.13 | Decepticon | then whats there to think that somehow he may or may not be g-lined |
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| 12:15.26 | Kazuha | I didn't say he didn't deserve it -- I just was suspecting that he might. |
| 12:15.33 | abrotman | anyways ... |
| 12:15.49 | abrotman | MrWax: lspci -nn | grep VGA .. what is the line for your video card? |
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| 12:17.05 | sylarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.20 | sylarr | will it interfere with my own mta? |
| 12:17.24 | petemc | sylarr: not if your mta is sendmail compatible |
| 12:17.34 | abrotman | you don't need to install sendmail to use the mail program |
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| 12:17.41 | sylarr | petemc, my mta is SMTP |
| 12:17.53 | valdyn | smtp is not an mta |
| 12:17.57 | petemc | sylarr: what is your MTAs name? |
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| 12:18.07 | sylarr | james.apache.org |
| 12:18.12 | sylarr | petemc, ^ |
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| 12:18.26 | valdyn | sylarr: thats not the local mta |
| 12:18.39 | sylarr | valdyn, smtp is a protocol |
| 12:18.40 | valdyn | sylarr: you need a local mta |
| 12:18.51 | sylarr | valdyn, that mta is local |
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| 12:19.04 | valdyn | sylarr: were asking for the program name |
| 12:19.05 | sylarr | valdyn, as in it runs on this machine |
| 12:19.21 | abrotman | postfix? exim? sendmail? |
| 12:19.26 | valdyn | sylarr: and you dont really need smtp locally, but you do need the sendmail command locally |
| 12:19.31 | sylarr | abrotman, no, no , no |
| 12:19.34 | valdyn | sylarr: mta' |
| 12:19.40 | valdyn | sylarr: mta do provide both however |
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| 12:20.24 | Decepticon | valdyn so i should do cd / (to get outside of /maindir/) and do cp -R maindir/subdir_1/* maindir ... for subdir_1 through subdir_100 |
| 12:20.27 | abrotman | sylarr: so what is it? |
| 12:20.35 | valdyn | Decepticon: no, dont use * |
| 12:20.43 | sylarr | abrotman, james - james.apache.org |
| 12:20.52 | valdyn | Decepticon: cp -av /path/to/dir /path/to/dest |
| 12:21.14 | abrotman | sylarr: which isn't in debian, right ? |
| 12:21.19 | sylarr | abrotman, it is just SMTP |
| 12:21.29 | Decepticon | why -a |
| 12:21.36 | valdyn | Decepticon: read the manpage |
| 12:21.48 | valdyn | Decepticon: maybe you dont need it |
| 12:21.48 | sylarr | abrotman, I don't think there is a package for it |
| 12:21.56 | abrotman | sylarr: it's not just SMTP .. but that's not really the point i don't think |
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| 12:22.04 | valdyn | Decepticon: but then you need -R at least, so just use -a |
| 12:22.06 | Decepticon | cp -dpRv i see |
| 12:22.16 | valdyn | Decepticon: thats usually what you want |
| 12:22.28 | Decepticon | valdyn i see |
| 12:22.31 | sylarr | abrotman, what if someone have his mta on some remote machine. Cant that happen? |
| 12:22.46 | valdyn | sylarr: the sendmail command cannot be on a remote machine |
| 12:22.50 | abrotman | sylarr: MUA or MTA ? |
| 12:22.51 | abrotman | !mta |
| 12:22.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, mta is Mail Transfer Agent: a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/lib/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>. |
| 12:22.52 | abrotman | !mua |
| 12:22.53 | dpkg | from memory, mua is a mail user agent, in other words mutt, balsa, pine, elm, icedove (thunderbird), kmail, evolution, or any other mail client program. |
| 12:22.56 | Decepticon | valdyn ill try it on a test dir and see if its what i want, thanks for the help |
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| 12:23.34 | phorce1 | Decepticon: just make life easy. install mc. run mc. open the folder you want to move stuff into in one pane. highlight the stuff you want to move over there in the other pane. hit the F6 key. make sure the directory names look sane. tell it to continue |
| 12:24.03 | Decepticon | phorce1 i thought about that but i could never figure out how to select multiple dirs in mc for moving |
| 12:24.10 | sylarr | abrotman, mail should be a MUA, and a MUA shouldn't care what is the MTA |
| 12:24.14 | daave | hi all, I've encountered one this /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off during debian lenny startup. I followed the resolution posted here, though it doesn't work for me. Any body can help me with that? Thanks in advance! |
| 12:24.17 | Decepticon | phorce1 all at once |
| 12:24.31 | daave | This link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588 |
| 12:24.31 | sylarr | abrotman, for that there are mail protocols like, SMTP, IMAP, POP3 |
| 12:24.33 | valdyn | sylarr: who said that it should care? |
| 12:24.41 | phorce1 | Decepticon: use the INS key to highlight them |
| 12:24.49 | abrotman | daave: uname -a |
| 12:24.51 | valdyn | sylarr: dont compare apples with oranges, like smtp with imap |
| 12:24.52 | Decepticon | phorce1 ahhhh will give it a try thanks |
| 12:24.53 | sylarr | valdyn, if it make you use an MTA like sendmail, then it care |
| 12:25.07 | valdyn | sylarr: i said sendmail COMMAND |
| 12:25.15 | valdyn | sylarr: i never said sendmail mta |
| 12:25.33 | valdyn | sylarr: and the sendmail command is contained in *every* proper mta |
| 12:25.41 | Decepticon | phorce1, with 'dive into subdirs' yes? |
| 12:25.50 | sylarr | valdyn, can I install sendmail without it trying to own port 25? |
| 12:26.00 | daave | abrotman: Linux (none) 2.6.29-bpo.2-686 #1 SMP Mon May 18 16:08:51 UTC 2009 i686 unknown |
| 12:26.07 | valdyn | sylarr: why the fuck would you install sendmail |
| 12:26.30 | abrotman | daave: and has your machine always had this problem? |
| 12:26.53 | sylarr | valdyn, why do you use the word fuck? |
| 12:26.55 | EmleyMoor | sylarr: james should have its own "sendmail" |
| 12:26.57 | abrotman | daave: does your system finish booting ? |
| 12:26.57 | valdyn | sylarr: sendmail is the most complex mta in the universe, you clearly cant deal with it, dont install it |
| 12:27.18 | EmleyMoor | (maybe just a symlink) |
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| 12:27.31 | phorce1 | sylarr: try 'dpkg -l|grep MTA' if your current local MTA has that in it's description it'll show up so you know its name |
| 12:27.40 | valdyn | sylarr: because i feel like it |
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| 12:27.58 | ghetto | excuse me |
| 12:28.03 | sylarr | valdyn, perhaps you should keep it to yourself |
| 12:28.14 | EmleyMoor | ghetto: Why, what have you done? <g> |
| 12:28.15 | sylarr | valdyn, not the whole world is interested |
| 12:28.16 | ghetto | connection reset by peer on x server |
| 12:28.21 | ghetto | what my problem? |
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| 12:28.32 | klarkc[xi] | hi! the bittorrent link of testing debian dont work? http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
| 12:28.41 | daave | abrotman: No, after I installed debian, I've installed XP into another partition. Then after alot of hacking, I finally got the system to load from grub. Then lenny stopped work |
| 12:28.54 | daave | abrotman: it stuck there |
| 12:29.13 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: it works, probably doesnt show what it originally showed though |
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| 12:29.58 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: ops, i dont see a testing link at all |
| 12:30.08 | klarkc[xi] | valdyn: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_di_rc2/amd64/bt-cd/ |
| 12:30.12 | klarkc[xi] | dont work for me |
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| 12:30.27 | klarkc[xi] | 404 |
| 12:30.40 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: where is that link? |
| 12:30.51 | klarkc[xi] | valdyn: here: http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
| 12:30.59 | klarkc[xi] | amd 64 testing |
| 12:31.17 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: i see only stable |
| 12:31.34 | daave | abrotman: I follow the instruction in the link i posted above, after the update-initamfs -u, I've got some Warning, then reboot, still stuck there |
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| 12:31.44 | klarkc[xi] | valdyn: because translation in portuguese |
| 12:31.45 | klarkc[xi] | :) |
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| 12:32.02 | klarkc[xi] | i think translation dont up-to-date |
| 12:32.07 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: so the portuguese versions could be wrong, german and english is ok |
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| 12:32.57 | klarkc[xi] | ok thanks valdyn, dont have mirrors with testing? |
| 12:33.06 | klarkc[xi] | for http download |
| 12:33.08 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: dont have torrents for testing |
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| 12:33.13 | klarkc[xi] | :/ |
| 12:33.19 | valdyn | !d-i |
| 12:33.20 | dpkg | 5.0 lenny is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Etch is still available from http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ . Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. Also ask me about <errata>. |
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| 12:33.24 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: use the stable installer |
| 12:33.30 | valdyn | klarkc[xi]: after you installed, upgrade to testing |
| 12:33.38 | klarkc[xi] | oh ok! thanks |
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| 12:35.06 | EmleyMoor | There is a site somewhere that offers a Debian stable install CD that uses a kernel that supports new wireless cards? |
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| 12:35.43 | Decepticon | when using mc, when i press F3 (mc's view keystroke), it doesnt seem to trigger, instead on the command line in mc what comes written is "13~" .... is something stealing focus from keystrokes? i have screen running, is screen interfering with mc or is my keyboard layout or soemthing else messed up that mc doesnt catch F3 |
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| 12:35.58 | alexx_ | anyone using dvtm? |
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| 12:37.55 | abrotman | daave: so debian was working, then you broke it? do you have data on there you care about? might just be easier to reinstall debian and have it setup grub correctly |
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| 12:42.47 | phorce1 | Decepticon: I've never seen that happen but the ~13 appearing on the command line looks like F3 has been remapped |
| 12:43.06 | nkuttler | EmleyMoor: kmuto? |
| 12:43.07 | daave | abrotman, well, it'll cause a lot work to do then. Thanks anyway |
| 12:43.37 | Decepticon | phorce1 i saw a dialog from mc saying you can teach mc keystrokes, do you know where this is in the menus |
| 12:43.45 | EmleyMoor | That rings a bell |
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| 12:44.12 | Decepticon | phorce1 never mind i found it |
| 12:44.43 | EmleyMoor | nkuttler: Thanks - I will bookmark it - will be needing this when I get my new laptop. |
| 12:44.47 | Orion_X11__ | how do I access ssh from my laptop to my desktop. I get this message > Host key verification failed |
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| 12:46.18 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11_ : probably erasing contents of ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
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| 12:46.46 | Leeroy | hello |
| 12:47.03 | Decepticon | phorce1 those keys work outside of screen |
| 12:47.07 | Decepticon | phorce1 screen is interfering with mc |
| 12:47.15 | Orion_X11__ | greenmang0: my .ssh is empty |
| 12:47.16 | Leeroy | where its the german help???? |
| 12:47.25 | lostson | is it possible to have mutt invoke fetchmail when i want to check my mail instead of having fetchmail run as a deamon |
| 12:47.51 | nkuttler | !de |
| 12:47.51 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 12:47.58 | Orion_X11__ | greenmang0: there is no known_hosts there |
| 12:48.04 | alexx_ | !br |
| 12:48.04 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 12:48.20 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11__: ls -l ~/.ssh |
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| 12:48.42 | Leeroy | no withe screen |
| 12:49.00 | Leeroy | !de |
| 12:49.00 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 12:49.37 | Leeroy | i have java irc only |
| 12:49.39 | Orion_X11__ | greenmang0: .ssh# ls -l total 0 nothing there |
| 12:49.51 | phorce1 | Decepticon: It can. Instead of the Fx keys use "ALT-3" inside screen |
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| 12:50.01 | Decepticon | phorce1 ill try that |
| 12:50.11 | nkuttler | Leeroy: type "/join #debian.de" |
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| 12:50.28 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11__: no idea then... well what does ls -ld ~/.ssh say? is it owned by you? |
| 12:50.36 | phorce1 | Decepticon: I forgot about that because I finally got all my systems local. I use screen only for a couple of things. If I want to run MC I open a new term |
| 12:50.49 | Boo_gg | hi |
| 12:50.57 | Decepticon | phorce1 ahhh i see |
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| 12:51.46 | Decepticon | phorce1 thats agood work around thanks it works |
| 12:51.54 | phorce1 | Decepticon: It's the lower number F keys that are affected. 1-5 I think. The higher ones should work normally. But when in screen I just gotused to using the ALT equivs |
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| 12:52.29 | nkuttler | wonders how 100% html spam makes it through his filters... |
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| 12:53.15 | Orion_X11__ | greenmang0: yes owned by me. But does not have anything there |
| 12:53.49 | Orion_X11__ | greenmang0: they are already installed in the two machines |
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| 12:56.58 | abrotman | wonders why it's a lot of work ... |
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| 13:01.25 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11_ ok |
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| 13:04.33 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11__: actually the solution i suggested you always worked for me |
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| 13:05.00 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11__: try touch ~/.ssh/known_hosts and then try ssh againg.. might help |
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| 13:06.35 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11__: well.. are you using ssh-keys...? i mean host-based authentication? |
| 13:06.57 | greenmang0 | Orion_X11__: which doesn't prompt you for password? |
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| 13:09.08 | chavodelocho | hi guys, I have a server based on Debian Etchm, this is my backup server, I couldn't access for ssh or other service, when I turn on the monitor (in local pc) the display show a lot of things fast, I reboot the server and when he try to boot he stop in "initramfs" and my system not boot, what can I do? |
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| 13:09.17 | antii | lol.. think i screwed up my usbdrive in osx, i wonder, how can i COMPLETLEY format it debain? :P |
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| 13:10.38 | antii | My drive say like this in fdisk, /dev/sdc1 * 1 977 7839744 af Unknown |
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| 13:10.58 | nkuttler | antii: mkfs |
| 13:11.08 | petemc | mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 |
| 13:11.20 | antii | sudo: mkfs.vfat: command not found |
| 13:11.21 | antii | :/ |
| 13:11.26 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: since you already did reboot .. what about a live-cd/usb-stick with a rescue system to check whats wrong? |
| 13:11.38 | nkuttler | antii: do you want to use it with os x? |
| 13:12.00 | antii | nkuttler: no, i just want fat on it, but its impossible to format in osx, in windows, now trying linux |
| 13:12.03 | antii | i want FAT |
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| 13:12.38 | nkuttler | antii: install dosfstools |
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| 13:12.52 | antii | nkuttler: then the previous command? |
| 13:12.56 | nkuttler | y |
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| 13:13.18 | antii | hmm, still says the same in fdisk -l :( |
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| 13:13.37 | chavodelocho | fireball: I didn't do this yet, I'm afraid to lost everything |
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| 13:14.32 | antii | nkuttler: thats wierd? :P |
| 13:14.40 | chavodelocho | fireball: Any kernel in boot gave this message, and their recovery modes] |
| 13:14.44 | nkuttler | antii: just re-partition it i guess |
| 13:14.52 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: since you did reboot (thus the system isn't running anymore) it's pretty save to use a rescue system like GRML that does not touch your HDs if you don't explicitly tell it to |
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| 13:15.42 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: first point of agenda should be a complete backup followed by investigations what is wrong and attempts to fix it :-) |
| 13:16.09 | antii | nkuttler: hmm, i checked cfdisk aswell, but when i start it it says, unknown partition table type, do you wish to start with a zero table? and if i press yes i see only free space in there |
| 13:16.13 | antii | thats odd? |
| 13:16.42 | nkuttler | antii: did you build your own kernel? |
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| 13:16.49 | antii | nope |
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| 13:17.19 | nkuttler | antii: just delete whatever is on the hd and build new partitions |
| 13:17.59 | antii | nkuttler: its a usbstick |
| 13:18.03 | antii | it seems empty? :/ |
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| 13:19.18 | chavodelocho | fireball: understood, yes, the server works until Saturday, when I arrived today the server was stopping |
| 13:19.30 | chavodelocho | fireball: was stop |
| 13:19.50 | antii | nkuttler: wierd, i did create a new primary partition and did write, but when i checked fdisk it didnt seem to save |
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| 13:20.37 | nvz | Lenny AMD64 Netinst failing on mkfs.ext2 routinely on Phenom X4 system, nvidia sata, just slightly changes the way it happens depending on SATA/AHCI/RAID settings.. also playing with IOMMU/MSIX kernel options seem to slightly change the output. http://pastebin.com/m93c584d any clues or ideas as to a resolution or course of action such as where to direct bug reports and what other info to gather would be appreciated |
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| 13:26.16 | nkuttler | nvz: #debian-boot @ oftc? |
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| 13:26.18 | steve_j | hi all |
| 13:27.23 | steve_j | i'm running etch on a server i share with a friend. we're having probs with Python Image Library and so I'm about to do a remove/reinstall on it. I've just noticed that there are two versions of PIL installed, one in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PIL and the other in /usr/share/pyshared/PIL/ |
| 13:27.47 | steve_j | i'm not super-hot on *nix tricks, but is there a way i can tell if anything is using the /usr/share/pyshared/PIL/ version of PIL? |
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| 13:30.05 | vi390 | does someone have an idea why I get "* BYE imaplogin expected exactly two arguments" when trying to login to Imap (courier-imap set up with authmysqld) its werid cause login is working with pop3. Just not with imap. |
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| 13:30.28 | nvz | nkuttler: I'm on both networks polling for clues ;) |
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| 13:31.09 | nvz | nkuttler: I have a new bios image but it doesn't mention any related fixes and I've never flashed from linux before, and not too thrilled about trying it on a system that can't even format a single partition without crashing |
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| 13:31.41 | nvz | else I would try using the bios image extractor and flashing programs in debian to update the bios |
| 13:32.17 | petemc | vi390: have you tried with different clients |
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| 13:32.42 | nvz | seems there were two bios updates since the firmware I have.. but neither seems to be any bit relevant |
| 13:32.55 | nvz | minor cosmetic cleanup type stuff seems to me |
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| 13:33.07 | vi390 | petemc: well I tried it with telnet, and also from different locations |
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| 13:33.21 | vi390 | petemc: but If not even telnet is working |
| 13:33.39 | petemc | vi390: theres some margin for error when using telnet, try a real client |
| 13:33.40 | nvz | If I anticipated even a 50/50 chance of not bricking the board, I'd flash it anyways |
| 13:33.53 | vi390 | petemc: ok |
| 13:33.53 | cantido | nvz: not a dual bios board? |
| 13:33.58 | nvz | but it seems HIGHLY likely it will ruin the board beyond repair |
| 13:34.11 | nvz | cantido: only ones I've seen are gigabit boards |
| 13:34.15 | nvz | this is ECS |
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| 13:34.23 | nvz | and doesn't seem to mention anything about dual bios |
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| 13:34.26 | cantido | nvz: a lot of boards have a low-low-level bios recovery mode now too |
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| 13:34.41 | abrotman | nvz: tried the kmuto installer? |
| 13:35.13 | nvz | well all I am saying is I have a system that is completly hanging on a simple format, and all I have to work with is an old cdrom drive and what cds I have.. as I dont really have access to a working burner atm |
| 13:35.21 | nvz | abrotman: I've never even heard of it |
| 13:35.22 | joko | Hi, I am using Debian stable and have pinned amule-daemon to testing. I get segfault errors, though. Could you help me to narrow down the problem, maybe report a bug? |
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| 13:35.57 | abrotman | nvz: yes you have |
| 13:36.02 | nvz | and this system is all new parts paid for by someone else.. if I fry the bios I gotta pay for a new board |
| 13:36.07 | nvz | abrotman: I have? |
| 13:36.10 | abrotman | nvz: you just can't retain anything for more than a month :) |
| 13:36.15 | abrotman | !tell nvz about kmuto |
| 13:36.16 | nvz | abrotman: hah |
| 13:36.32 | nvz | I've definately never heard of that before |
| 13:36.39 | cantido | nvz: or get someone to burn the rom |
| 13:36.47 | antii | can i do a "whole" reset on my usb drive in some way? :( |
| 13:36.57 | vi390 | petemc: hmm, using other clients gives out errors as well. One of them says its not even able to make a connection to the imap server. lsof gives out that imap is running at port 143 |
| 13:36.58 | nvz | I still remember 0073735963 is the code to tyson on punchout for NES, so... |
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| 13:37.04 | nvz | thats a whole lot longer than a month |
| 13:37.06 | abrotman | nvz: you've been around long enough .. i'm sure you've seen us point them out |
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| 13:37.23 | nvz | I haven't been spending much time on here since lenny came around |
| 13:37.33 | petemc | vi390: what do the courier logs say? fwiw, dovecot is a more common choice now.. |
| 13:37.36 | nvz | I couldn't even tell you what the current testing distro is called |
| 13:37.42 | MrWax | does anyone know a way how I can mount a Windows Vista NTFS filesystem partition in debian? |
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| 13:37.50 | abrotman | nvz: that'd be nice if kmuto hadn't been making unofficial installers since .. sarge? |
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| 13:38.04 | nvz | abrotman: either way, I've not heard of it |
| 13:38.05 | vi390 | petemc: hmm thats what I thought at the same moment , to just change the Imap server :) |
| 13:38.14 | abrotman | nvz: you're such a slacker :) |
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| 13:38.19 | nvz | you can argue with my knowledge of it or just accept the fact I don't know |
| 13:38.51 | nvz | it seems promising though.. I tried another installer that was supposed to have fixed these dmraid type issues.. but apparently thats either not my problem, or it doesnt fix it.. |
| 13:38.54 | vi390 | petemc: would you suggest dovecot ? |
| 13:39.00 | petemc | vi390: its what i use |
| 13:39.04 | steve_j | rather than delete my old version of PIL, can i just rename the dir and .pth file so I can easily roll back? |
| 13:39.05 | nvz | I think that is i386 anyhow, the one I tried from the debian wiki |
| 13:39.13 | nvz | an updated kernel may fix this issue |
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| 13:39.51 | vi390 | petemc: and the setup to use mysql auth is straight forward ? |
| 13:40.01 | petemc | i dont use mysql |
| 13:40.10 | petemc | it would be well enough documented |
| 13:40.12 | valan | <3 dovecot |
| 13:40.17 | petemc | and should be relatively simple |
| 13:40.40 | antii | can i do a "whole" reset on my usb drive in some way? seemed like i have screwed it up :( |
| 13:40.44 | nvz | the problem there is however, my cd burner in the laptop is out of comission, and the burner my friend has keeps making coasters for some reason.. K3b says it doesn't have permission when it does, and when I run the same command it uses from terminal, it completes successfully but the discs wont boot |
| 13:40.50 | nvz | never seen anything like it |
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| 13:41.06 | vi390 | petemc: already reading the doc.. hmm seems to be quite up to date |
| 13:41.17 | vi390 | petemc: think Iam just trying it out. thx |
| 13:41.22 | petemc | np |
| 13:41.23 | valan | antii what problem with the usb drive? |
| 13:41.27 | nvz | but if I get some good ideas together I can figure out where I can burn some more discs that'll work.. its just slightly more complicated than usual as I dont have the stuff here to do it right now |
| 13:41.30 | Netsnipe | zomgwtf. when was the last someone cleaned out the chanop list here? |
| 13:41.45 | antii | valan: it says like this in fdisk, /dev/sdc1 * 1 977 7839744 af Unknown |
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| 13:42.10 | valan | delete the partition and create a new one if you want |
| 13:42.18 | antii | it doesent work :/ |
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| 13:42.25 | antii | it like resetting itself lol |
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| 13:42.26 | valan | did you put a type on it? |
| 13:42.34 | nvz | I'd buy this stuff I need if it weren't for the fact I have no cash and the bank cancelled my card and I'm waiting for a new one in the mail.. got all my money in a bank half way across th country I can't get to |
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| 13:42.38 | antii | wait |
| 13:42.54 | nvz | I'm so f'n clusterfucked right now its insane |
| 13:43.04 | valan | heh i had that problem at one point nvz |
| 13:43.18 | nvz | yeah, well it sucks |
| 13:43.30 | valan | luckily though i had another option available to me |
| 13:43.48 | nvz | I've been sitting on this built server for like a week now, cant even get ONE hard drive formatted much less the raid up and working |
| 13:43.56 | antii | valan: if i do cfdisk /dev/sdc1 it says: Unknown partition table type Do you wish to start with a zero table [y/N] ? |
| 13:44.03 | nvz | so I ruled out it being a purely raid issue |
| 13:44.17 | valan | sure, start with a zero table |
| 13:44.26 | nvz | its more of a Lenny hates your sata controller and/or bios kinda deal |
| 13:44.57 | antii | valan: i did, but it says like this inside there, there is no name, no flags, Part type = pri/log, fs type= free space, no label, size 8000,90MB |
| 13:45.00 | antii | thats odd? |
| 13:45.02 | nvz | still not sure exactly where the problem lies as the kernel dump says its in pci_gart, which has ABSOLUTLY nothing to do with formatting a drive |
| 13:45.16 | nvz | so that leads me to believe its a bios memory map issue or something |
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| 13:46.04 | nvz | the error in pci_gart during a format is very misleading |
| 13:46.30 | valan | antii i don't use cfdisk, i'm not entirely sure what it's trying to tell you there |
| 13:46.44 | antii | valan: what shall i check in fdisk |
| 13:47.06 | valan | delete whatever partitions are on there now, then create a new one |
| 13:47.15 | valan | make sure you put the proper partition type on it |
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| 13:47.23 | antii | valan: there is no partition it seem :/ |
| 13:47.30 | valan | ok, then create one |
| 13:47.33 | fubada | hi. how do I add lenny repos on etch |
| 13:47.34 | nvz | this board does have a GeForce 8100 nVidia boost chipset.. its an all-in-one chipset on the board.. no actual video just an SLI booster |
| 13:47.40 | fubada | i need a couple of packages from lenny |
| 13:47.50 | nvz | so the pci_gart errors lead me to think something is mapped wrong on the board |
| 13:47.59 | antii | valan: hmm, if i start fdisk /dev/sdc1, Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) |
| 13:48.04 | nvz | and it is likely that a newer kernel can work around that |
| 13:48.13 | valan | that's fine, you'll fix it |
| 13:48.19 | valan | wait |
| 13:48.19 | valan | no |
| 13:48.26 | valan | fdisk /dev/sdc |
| 13:48.29 | valan | not /dev/sdc1 |
| 13:48.36 | antii | ok |
| 13:48.41 | antii | how shall i format it in there correctly+ |
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| 13:49.04 | valan | i'm not understanding what you're asking |
| 13:49.27 | antii | how do i partition it so it right? :/ |
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| 13:49.45 | valan | if there's any partitions that show up, use 'd' to delete them |
| 13:49.51 | nvz | if I had my credit card I would have just tried my luck with a new board... but I guess best idea now is what I was already thinking but wasnt sure how to accomplish.. and that is get an installer with a bleeding edge kernel |
| 13:49.53 | valan | then use 'c' to create one |
| 13:50.00 | SerajewelKS | can someone explain to me why pidgin in lenny is built without networkmanager support? |
| 13:50.02 | nvz | I guess reading up on the link dpkg gave me should facilitate that |
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| 13:50.24 | nvz | why would a client app need support for networkmanager |
| 13:50.35 | nvz | networkmanager should be transparent to client apps |
| 13:50.38 | SerajewelKS | nvz: so it can notice quickly when the network goes down |
| 13:50.47 | SerajewelKS | nvz: and when it comes back up, pidgin will immediately reconnect |
| 13:50.47 | nvz | SerajewelKS: ah. |
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| 13:51.00 | nvz | SerajewelKS: I guess thats a job for you then |
| 13:51.03 | fubada | hey im upgrading from etch->lenny, wit aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade, and most of my packages are being HELD BACK by aptitutde |
| 13:51.04 | fubada | how come |
| 13:51.07 | valan | then, it's 'r' that lets you change the type |
| 13:51.11 | SerajewelKS | instead of making me manually reconnect my 8 accounts or sit and wait for the tcp timeouts |
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| 13:51.28 | nvz | o.O |
| 13:51.42 | nvz | I was just thinking to myself who the hell is netsnipe |
| 13:51.43 | SerajewelKS | nvz: oh i can rebuild it just fine, i'm just curious why this was disabled since IIRC it depends only on dbus and will basically do nothing without networkmanager anyway |
| 13:51.46 | antii | valan: after i did new partition and wrote it, when i checked fdisk -l its the same as before |
| 13:51.47 | nvz | now I don't even wanna know |
| 13:51.52 | antii | may the usbdrive be corrupt? :( |
| 13:51.56 | valan | pastebin the output |
| 13:52.32 | nvz | SerajewelKS: yeah, you lost me at dbus.. heh.. I'm still a bit behind the new-fangled automagic crap |
| 13:52.32 | antii | /dev/sdc1 * 1 977 7839744 af Unknown |
| 13:52.35 | antii | same as before :S |
| 13:52.51 | valan | eh |
| 13:53.01 | valan | use 't' to change the type |
| 13:53.09 | valan | i said 'r' before, it was a type |
| 13:53.13 | valan | typo |
| 13:53.16 | valan | damn i suck |
| 13:53.37 | valan | change the type to something worthwhile then write |
| 13:53.40 | nvz | ah, ha.. push that bus, everyone move to the back of dbus. *rolls his eyes* |
| 13:53.46 | antii | valan: hm, Hidden FAT16? |
| 13:53.48 | antii | if i want FAT16 |
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| 13:53.57 | antii | nvm |
| 13:53.58 | valan | why would you want fat16? |
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| 13:54.18 | nvz | I guess I gotta make a plan here even if its wrong.. this issue isn't gonna resolve itself |
| 13:54.23 | valan | b for W95 FAT32 |
| 13:54.24 | SerajewelKS | nvz: dbus is just an event bus. lots of gnome crap uses it. (gconf does, iirc.) so if you have gnome you already have dbus anyway, so i don't think that building nm support in pidgin would introduce much of an added dependency. |
| 13:54.27 | valan | if you want fat |
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| 13:54.45 | nvz | SerajewelKS: yeah I know what it is, just don't know enough about it to understand how it works |
| 13:54.49 | SerajewelKS | nvz: ah |
| 13:54.58 | nvz | I use it all the time |
| 13:55.08 | nvz | just works, which is why I don't think about it |
| 13:55.08 | antii | valan: gah, Unable to write /dev/sdc |
| 13:55.09 | antii | :( |
| 13:55.16 | nvz | I use nautilus quite frequetly |
| 13:55.22 | nvz | so dbus is in there some f'n where |
| 13:55.23 | valan | eh |
| 13:55.27 | valan | is it mounted? |
| 13:55.30 | lolufail | hi! I'm a little bit confused: |
| 13:55.30 | lolufail | server:/home# df -h | grep home |
| 13:55.30 | lolufail | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.30 | lolufail | server:/home# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/home/temp.random |
| 13:55.30 | lolufail | dd: opening `/home/temp.random': No space left on device |
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| 13:55.50 | valan | he sure seemed a little confused there |
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| 13:55.59 | antii | umount: /dev/sdc: not mounted |
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| 13:56.13 | nvz | 5.8T eh |
| 13:56.14 | nvz | damn |
| 13:56.16 | antii | valan: same with sdc1 |
| 13:56.23 | valan | i dunno antii sounds like your drive mighta gone bad |
| 13:56.28 | antii | :'(( |
| 13:56.29 | lolufail | sry for paste, though this were 4 lines only |
| 13:56.32 | nvz | thats easily 700USD or more worth of storage |
| 13:56.32 | valan | or, there's no write protect feature or anything is it? |
| 13:56.40 | SerajewelKS | nvz: interesting: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403814 |
| 13:56.46 | lolufail | any idea wh |
| 13:56.48 | antii | valan: hmm, maybe that got screwed |
| 13:56.58 | lolufail | why I have no space left? doesnt make sense Oo |
| 13:57.02 | antii | valan: how can i fiind out if there is? |
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| 13:57.07 | SerajewelKS | nvz: seems to have been ignored for lenny's release :( |
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| 13:57.37 | valan | it might look like a little switch or something on the device |
| 13:57.41 | nvz | SerajewelKS: yeah I hate when that happens.. you notice something that was noticed in time but never go delt with |
| 13:57.57 | SerajewelKS | nod |
| 13:58.04 | antii | valan: nono, it worked perfect until i tried to format it in osx lol :P |
| 13:58.06 | SerajewelKS | looks like i'm using the one from bpo anyway though |
| 13:58.10 | valan | heh |
| 13:58.24 | valan | hmm |
| 13:58.33 | valan | my last thought is to just try and run mkfs on it |
| 13:58.42 | valan | if that don't work, i dunno |
| 13:58.57 | nvz | is the partition table fubar? |
| 13:59.07 | nvz | gpart works pretty good in those scenarios |
| 13:59.30 | valan | oh btw nvz one can find 1TB drives for under $100 ;) |
| 13:59.33 | nvz | it examines the drive and writes a new partition table from the boundaries it finds |
| 13:59.38 | lolufail | :( |
| 13:59.50 | nvz | valan: actually I can get you a 1.5 for like $120 right now |
| 13:59.59 | antii | valan: mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdc |
| 14:00.02 | antii | maybe its broke :( |
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| 14:00.12 | nvz | valan: its when you go over 1.5 they get ridiculously expensive |
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| 14:00.33 | nvz | valan: if you build a 6tb array out of 1-1.5 drives you can do it for around $700US |
| 14:00.34 | valan | newegg's got em for $130 |
| 14:00.43 | nvz | valan: yeah.. they are around that price |
| 14:01.12 | lolufail | it's a 12x640GB raid6, btw :D |
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| 14:01.21 | nvz | damn |
| 14:01.52 | lolufail | with a LVM -> crypt -> LVM -> xfs structure for that particular partition |
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| 14:02.09 | nvz | wow, you like making things complicated eh? |
| 14:02.15 | lolufail | :) |
| 14:02.18 | lolufail | has worked for months |
| 14:02.22 | nvz | I'd hate to be the one dealing with that when shit hits the fan |
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| 14:02.28 | lolufail | now that I extended that partition, I get this error |
| 14:02.38 | lolufail | not the first extend btw |
| 14:02.45 | valan | more complex, more it fails, harder it is to deal with |
| 14:02.46 | maligor | and a 8 port raid card costs some $200-300 |
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| 14:03.04 | BCM43 | how would I send audio from one computer to another? |
| 14:03.05 | lolufail | maligor: and a 4port sata card is $30 |
| 14:03.05 | Twister | hey all, im looking for a way to convert wma to mp3 from the command line. any suggestions? |
| 14:03.14 | valan | some desktop motherboards even come with 6 ports |
| 14:03.23 | valan | Twister sox |
| 14:03.23 | lolufail | valan: mine has 8 |
| 14:03.28 | nvz | yeah cost per GB is way higher on 640G drives than just getting 1-1.5TB drives right now |
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| 14:03.38 | nvz | but at the time he built that it may have been different |
| 14:03.48 | lolufail | nvz: yeah, but not when I started, with 3 drives, a year ago |
| 14:03.58 | Twister | valan thanks! |
| 14:04.07 | valan | !love |
| 14:04.07 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 14:04.24 | nvz | I bought 3x500GB whitelabels for this one for a RAID5 setup |
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| 14:04.39 | nvz | ran me a little under $150 |
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| 14:04.57 | nvz | probably about $150 including the sata cables I needed to get |
| 14:05.06 | Dunge | Anyone can tell me why I suddenly can't connect to my device with telnet? It was working great friday.. and now it tells me "Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 login: Permission denied." |
| 14:05.23 | maligor | how can you not have sata cables in some stack :P |
| 14:05.36 | dlynes | Does anyone know where I might be able to download /etc/init.d/spamassassin from, for Lenny? I had to remove spamassassin previously and just recently reinstalled it, but it doesn't install the startup script for some reason |
| 14:05.47 | valan | i bought an 80gb 2.5" 5400rpm hard drive recently for $120 |
| 14:05.48 | lolufail | but why would df report something different than the reality? though df is correct, after resize... |
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| 14:06.06 | nvz | Idk, but I found a site that sells cables dirt cheap.. microbarn I think it was.. they were only like $2 a piece or something |
| 14:06.08 | valan | expensive little thing, but i needed it for it's extreme ruggedness |
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| 14:06.24 | nkuttler | !tell dlynes about confmiss |
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| 14:06.41 | nvz | which if I could sell em more often I'd buy a shitload cause they retail for $20-25 |
| 14:06.42 | dlynes | Dunge: could be any number of reasons...box could have run out of memory, box could have run out of drive space, you could have the wrong password, the wrong username, ... |
| 14:06.52 | dlynes | nkuttler: thanks |
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| 14:07.06 | valan | !beer valan |
| 14:07.06 | dpkg | pulls out a tasty Guinness for valan |
| 14:07.10 | Dunge | dlynes : it don't even let me write an user/pass... write permission denied first |
| 14:07.17 | valan | meh i don't like guinness |
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| 14:07.23 | Dunge | but yes my mem card is now 96% full |
| 14:07.38 | nvz | Dunge: or 4% free |
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| 14:07.53 | Dunge | still have enough I guess |
| 14:07.59 | Dunge | (76mb) |
| 14:08.04 | valan | 4% free is perfect |
| 14:08.19 | valan | 2% free might be even better in some cases |
| 14:08.30 | Dunge | lol |
| 14:08.34 | nvz | your logic scares me |
| 14:08.59 | valan | what wrong with my logic? |
| 14:09.10 | valan | you would spend money on memory and let it go to waste by not being used? |
| 14:09.22 | Dunge | hehe |
| 14:09.25 | nvz | of course nothing scared me like being behind an old woman on a bridge yesterday and reading her "The lord is my pilot, I am just a co-pilot" bumpersticker, and thinking to myself "God, I hope she keeps her eyes open and her hands on the wheel". |
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| 14:10.28 | jungleboy | where lives php mysql extension on debian? |
| 14:10.34 | nvz | I'm terrified of sheep |
| 14:11.02 | nvz | the "I believe in god, look no hands" mentality |
| 14:11.15 | valan | jungleboy try searching for it with aptitude |
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| 14:11.29 | phorce1 | my MB has 8 SATA ports and 2 IDE ports so it'll handle 12 drives. It has 7 3.5" drive bays :-) |
| 14:11.41 | Deepa | I'm going nuts on this |
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| 14:11.46 | dlynes | Dunge: sounds like you're out of memory or drive space |
| 14:11.46 | fireba11 | nvz: hehe |
| 14:11.46 | nvz | I swear those kinda people had a bible dropped on their head at some point |
| 14:12.00 | dlynes | nkuttler: Is there another fix for /var/lib/spamassassin missing, too? |
| 14:12.11 | rudi_s | jungleboy: php5-mysql |
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| 14:12.48 | flower_ | hi, I can't use my keyboard when in X |
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| 14:13.05 | flower_ | what could be wrong? missing driver? |
| 14:13.12 | nvz | flower_: what kind of keyboard, and what tty is X running on? |
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| 14:13.48 | antii | wc |
| 14:13.51 | antii | ... |
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| 14:13.56 | flower_ | nvz: I'll take a look, how can I know which tty? |
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| 14:14.16 | umarzuki | hi guys |
| 14:14.19 | nvz | flower_: does ctrl+alt+f7 take you to your x screen? |
| 14:14.51 | umarzuki | how do i resend a report file that failed to be sent during internet connection failure? |
| 14:15.02 | umarzuki | i'm using reportbug |
| 14:15.13 | BCM43 | how would I send audio from one computer to another? |
| 14:15.23 | nvz | flower_: thats the default.. I've seen obscure bugs before that direct input to tty7 reguardless of which tty X is runnig on, which cause these sorts of issues when people change their setup |
| 14:15.34 | chavodelocho | fireba11, hi, I looked for the problem, this server have RAID filesystem, 4 disks, appears a message "failed to RUN_ARRAY /dev/md1 Input/output error" |
| 14:15.40 | phorce1 | Dunge: try running dmesg and see if there have been any drive errors showing up. I'm dealing with that right now on my primary system |
| 14:15.41 | umarzuki | BCM43, scp? |
| 14:16.13 | BCM43 | umarzuki: does that allow streaming? |
| 14:16.21 | nvz | flower_: would help if you could get a copy of your xlog and config in a pastebin. |
| 14:16.41 | nvz | I for one feel like going back to playing with my balls,but more information will help people solve your issue |
| 14:16.51 | umarzuki | BCM43, the thing is, you have to know the right user and password for intended machine. But it is only a copy command |
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| 14:17.29 | phorce1 | if I do anything that goes too far out on the platter the drive throws errors and / remounts as 'ro' and suddenly things stop working |
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| 14:17.52 | Dunge | phorce1 : I don't have anything special in dmesg |
| 14:18.01 | BCM43 | Let me rephrase this, I am being unclear. I want to put a cd in one computer and have it play it on several other computers connected to the same network. I cannot use the GUI. |
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| 14:18.46 | xiq | hello, Is there something like a script that transfers files to your ftp-server with a "single" rightclick on the file? |
| 14:18.52 | chavodelocho | fireba11, any suggestion? |
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| 14:19.24 | phorce1 | Dunge: what, SPECIFIC, error does it give you? Just "permission denied" |
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| 14:19.47 | Dunge | yes |
| 14:20.08 | cahoot | BCM43: looked at mpd? |
| 14:20.22 | BCM43 | cahoot: no |
| 14:20.24 | BCM43 | thanks |
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| 14:21.00 | phorce1 | Dunge: Nevermind, I see it in my scrollback. Could be you've done an update that has disabled telnet also. Can you try ssh? |
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| 14:22.27 | Dunge | ssh: connect to host 10.1.0.234 port 22: Connection refused |
| 14:22.29 | phorce1 | And, since you can run dmesg I assume you are sitting in front of the device that you can't connect to. run 'df -h' and see if any of your mounted drives are full (or very nearly full) |
| 14:22.55 | phorce1 | Dunge: OK, that just means you odn't have sshd running |
| 14:23.06 | Dunge | as I say, yes my device is nearly full (96%) |
| 14:23.22 | Dunge | what's the quick way to list installed packages and remove useless ones? |
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| 14:23.46 | phorce1 | Dunge: Ahhh, it's a device running entirely in RAM? |
| 14:23.54 | Dunge | nah it's an sdcard |
| 14:24.00 | nvz | Dunge: look into deborphan |
| 14:24.15 | nvz | !info deborphan |
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| 14:24.43 | dpkg | deborphan: (program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.28 (sid), Packaged size: 79 kB, Installed size: 456 kB |
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| 14:25.05 | phorce1 | Dunge: deborphan will remove unused libraries and other cruft. Use 'dpkg -l' to list all of the installed packages so you can pick through and uninstall stuff you know you don't need on that device |
| 14:25.27 | nvz | if you;re gonna hand-pick, run deborphan afterwards for best result |
| 14:25.49 | Shadz | Hello, is there an easy way to make a thin install of debian lenny? I usually run it on a virtual machine to compile apps, so I don't need gnome and stuff, I just want to use less ram. |
| 14:25.51 | nvz | and afaik deborphan will not REMOVE anything |
| 14:26.02 | nvz | it simply lets you know whats not being depended on |
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| 14:26.08 | Dunge | thx |
| 14:26.11 | Dunge | gonna try that |
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| 14:26.18 | petemc | Shadz: just dont install any of the task packages |
| 14:26.36 | Shadz | what task package are you talking about? |
| 14:26.45 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: check you got backups off your data of that array ;-) find out what HD is damaged .. sounds unrecoverable though |
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| 14:26.54 | ewet | what alternatives do exist to run windows and linux on the same machine. i know of multiboot, virtualization and cygwin/etc. however i do not want either sluggish performance, frequent reboots or incompatibility. |
| 14:26.59 | phorce1 | nvz: I didn't know that. I have lots of spce and haven't played with deborphan yet. I'll probably run it before ghosting my / drive |
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| 14:27.02 | ewet | choices choices... |
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| 14:27.13 | petemc | Shadz: when you install, it offers collections like desktop, server etc, they're called tasks, just dont install any of those |
| 14:27.21 | Twister | seems sox dont support wma? |
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| 14:27.26 | nvz | hmm.. I wonder if I can squeeze this kmuto image onto my cell phone and boot the server with my phone |
| 14:27.27 | flower_ | nvz: it's an werty keyboard, cherry, made in germany, ctr alt f7 doesn t do anything here |
| 14:27.29 | Dunge | deborphan gives me : libpng3 libsas12 libconsole.......... but I use png images and I use the console lol |
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| 14:27.42 | Shadz | petemc: oh cool, i will try this setup, thanks |
| 14:27.43 | nvz | sounds like a crazy idea, but thats nothing new with me |
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| 14:28.05 | Shadz | ewet: i have the same problem as you |
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| 14:28.21 | Shadz | ewet: you probably work on windows and wanna do unix stuff hehe |
| 14:29.05 | nvz | Dunge: well deborphan generally only shows things that no packages depend on.. so.. if nothing depends on them, then they are achieving that functionality through some other means |
| 14:29.27 | nvz | Dunge: libs shown with deborphan have always been save to remove for me |
| 14:29.29 | fireba11 | ewet: depends a lot on your usecase |
| 14:29.46 | nvz | I find deborphan most useful for cleaning up dependencies after removing actual program packages |
| 14:30.05 | nvz | you remember programs you install and don't need, but you forget about all the shit it pulled in with it |
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| 14:30.35 | chavodelocho | fireba11, dou think that all the hds are damaged? |
| 14:30.40 | fireba11 | nvz: etch got some new apt stuffy for that case though |
| 14:30.54 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: highly unlikely. what raid level you got? |
| 14:31.07 | Dunge | I have about 1gb of object file in my "src" folder of all the libs I compiled,.. gonna backup this to my pc and delete it |
| 14:31.22 | nvz | well I have half a plan now... after I am done procrastinating, I think I'll give the boot the rackserver with my cell phone trick a try |
| 14:31.36 | nvz | if that doesnt work I gotta drive across town and burn a cd |
| 14:31.39 | umarzuki | how do i resend a report (generated by reportbug) file that failed to be sent during internet connection failure? |
| 14:31.44 | ewet | Shadz, fireba11: actually i'm using debian right now but games are _really_ sluggish on wine (and buggy as well) so I try to preserve the performance and still be able to work in a save environment if i like. |
| 14:31.54 | nvz | I'm thinking it will work unless there isn't enough space on my phone to do it |
| 14:32.09 | chavodelocho | fireba11, 5, the filesystem is a RAID, I booted with a live cd, I saw the partitions but I can't mount |
| 14:32.21 | petemc | ewet: sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it |
| 14:32.35 | chavodelocho | fireba11, raid level 5 |
| 14:32.38 | fireba11 | ewet: virtualizazion is better, but you usually lack support for directx etc. so ... |
| 14:32.55 | dlynes | nkuttler: nvm...created the directory and chowned spamd:spamd on it and the .spamassassin subdirectory, but now I'm running into a failure to connect to /usr/var/run/dovecot/auth-master |
| 14:32.59 | nvz | my phone won't be able to read its own memory after I put that image on there, but that doesnt matter when its in mass storage mode |
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| 14:33.28 | ewet | petemc: hey - i like my cake! :) |
| 14:33.35 | petemc | :) |
| 14:34.29 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: boot from a grml live-cd and have mdadm analyze what HD is broken .. with raid 5 it seems there are at least 2 damaged HDs though .. didn't have that in quite a while. did you monitor your raid for failures? |
| 14:34.36 | chavodelocho | fireba11, I found other strange message that I didn't mention "not enough devices to start the array while not clean - consider --force" |
| 14:34.39 | ewet | le sigh ... just "wine: become better!" |
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| 14:35.45 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: yes, so if you got 3 devices it means 2 are marked fault. raid 5 only allowes for one drive to be faulty. how's your backup situation? it's unlikely you'll be able to restore much data from tehre |
| 14:36.36 | chavodelocho | fireba11, I have 4 devices |
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| 14:37.46 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: ah. so you probably got 1 dead drive and 3 working, but the array marked as faulty. you're not able to start up a array like that without providing a new 4th drive. it may restore then though |
| 14:38.20 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: there are quite a few how-tos on that topic out there .. |
| 14:38.52 | chavodelocho | fireba11, all my backup are in this server, there are about 150 GB of backup I think |
| 14:39.20 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: i suggest setting up monitoring of your raid status after you fixed that :-) |
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| 14:40.16 | chavodelocho | fireba11, hehe ok! Do you think that I use the grml live-cd to discover how the disk fail? |
| 14:40.37 | flower_ | nvz: here is an log: http://pastebin.com/m4bac6294 |
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| 14:41.49 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: you can find out what disk failed ... the disk is most simply dead. |
| 14:42.44 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: i had a case like that a while ago .. one disk dead AND the array marked as faulty. i was able to recover all my data from there |
| 14:43.26 | nvz | flower_: looks like you are in fact missing the driver |
| 14:43.47 | nvz | flower_: lines 290-293 |
| 14:44.08 | chavodelocho | fireba11, but you recoved? |
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| 14:44.37 | flower_ | nvz: ok, I'll try to install that |
| 14:44.41 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: yes. wasn't exactly easy though. |
| 14:44.44 | nvz | flower_: xserver-xorg-input-kbd |
| 14:44.55 | flower_ | nvz: thanks man |
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| 14:45.04 | nvz | no problem, hope that works out |
| 14:45.13 | Iu | if I want /var on a separate partition but my host forgot to mount /var during the install, is it possible to still use the separate partition or will a reinstall be needed? (the partition is there it's just not mounted) |
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| 14:45.31 | nvz | also mildly curious how you installed xorg without it |
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| 14:46.04 | valdyn | Iu: copy the contents to the /var you want to use.. done |
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| 14:46.20 | Iu | ...make sense I guess <.< |
| 14:46.29 | valdyn | Iu: cp -av /var/ /newvar/ |
| 14:47.31 | Iu | why -av? ._. |
| 14:47.35 | Iu | or rather |
| 14:47.36 | Iu | why -a |
| 14:47.43 | fireba11 | valdyn: no files in use that might make problems? |
| 14:47.43 | valdyn | Iu: why dont you read the manpage |
| 14:47.51 | valdyn | fireba11: thats a windows problem |
| 14:47.55 | valdyn | fireba11: this is debian |
| 14:48.08 | Iu | oh right <.< |
| 14:48.12 | Iu | well |
| 14:48.15 | fireba11 | valdyn: just curious, never tried something like that in a running system |
| 14:48.15 | jesselang | Hi. I'm on testing, and am suffering from bug #533766 with gnome-network-admin and network-manager-gnome conflicting. NM is really important on my notebook. How do I forcibly install network-manager-gnome again? |
| 14:48.21 | Iu | ok |
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| 14:48.27 | Iu | here goes nothing <.< |
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| 14:48.56 | chavodelocho | fireba11, ok I'm downloading the grml to find out the disk, ok probaly I will find, bu I didn't understand how can I start up the array without this disk |
| 14:49.25 | chavodelocho | fireba11, I'm not good in raid... |
| 14:49.41 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: you can have mdadm analyze your current disks, there are notes on the partitions about status ... |
| 14:50.03 | fireba11 | chavodelocho: had to read up a bit myself last time, but it's not that complicated usually |
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| 14:51.13 | valdyn | fireba11: sure its not a good idea to do this on a production server with certain stuff in /var |
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| 14:53.33 | Iu | hm |
| 14:53.56 | fireba11 | valdyn: ah well .. i would have used a live-cd to copy over and change mountpoint for next boot |
| 14:54.11 | Iu | what happens to files in a directory if you mount a filesystem on that directory |
| 14:54.23 | valdyn | Iu: then become hidden |
| 14:54.28 | valdyn | Iu: they become hidden |
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| 14:54.43 | Iu | should I just rm -R /var then :| |
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| 14:54.49 | gilesw | heya all |
| 14:55.05 | valdyn | Iu: no, you shouldnt remove the var directory, only its contents, later |
| 14:55.08 | SerajewelKS | any wise person happen to know how i can get update-manager to not consider a package as an update candidate if i have explicitly marked it held? |
| 14:55.24 | valdyn | Iu: you can *still* access those "hidden" paths later once newvar is mounted |
| 14:55.25 | gilesw | I'm trying to backport a package and I'm getting a "does not contain a 'Template:' line" error |
| 14:55.40 | SerajewelKS | it keeps harassing me about pidgin simply because i have built it locally to enable networkmanager |
| 14:55.47 | Iu | valdyn: why would I |
| 14:55.50 | valdyn | Iu: which means you can delete those later once newvar is in place |
| 14:55.54 | Iu | oh |
| 14:55.58 | Iu | ...oh well too late |
| 14:55.59 | Iu | lol |
| 14:56.04 | fireba11 | Iu: you can wait if everything still works :-) |
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| 14:56.16 | gilesw | the templates files does have Template: lines in it |
| 14:56.16 | fantomas | hi all |
| 14:56.21 | module000 | SerajewelKS: built from source? or got the sourced it with apt? |
| 14:56.52 | fantomas | Please, help to make a decision: Evolution or Thunderbird? |
| 14:57.01 | Iu | whoa what |
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| 14:57.09 | Iu | I just mounted var and there are already files there |
| 14:57.12 | module000 | fantomas: pick the one that meets your needs most completely |
| 14:57.13 | Iu | derp |
| 14:57.19 | Iu | maybe they did mount during install... ._. |
| 14:57.25 | SerajewelKS | module000: built the source package |
| 14:57.33 | SerajewelKS | module000: (and installed it, of course) |
| 14:57.44 | module000 | SerajewelKS: if it's trying to update it, then it probably is trying to update the old binary package it thinks is still there |
| 14:57.45 | SerajewelKS | module000: after tweaking the build-deps and rules |
| 14:58.09 | SerajewelKS | module000: no, it's trying to update the package to the same exact version, except that it's trying to pull from the repo, because it sees that the checksums don't match |
| 14:58.10 | fantomas | module000: what do you personally prefer? |
| 14:58.24 | module000 | fantomas: i don't use either. |
| 14:58.42 | Iu | welp |
| 14:58.46 | Iu | time to restart and see what happens |
| 14:58.47 | Iu | <_< |
| 14:58.58 | fantomas | module000: I think they are pretty similar in functionality. I need relatively simple mail client for reading mail, and filtering it into 'folders' |
| 14:59.02 | fantomas | module000: i c |
| 14:59.07 | fireba11 | Iu: why restart? |
| 14:59.20 | Iu | ...I don't know |
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| 14:59.32 | Iu | make sure I don't get shit if I ever need to restart again? |
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| 14:59.57 | SerajewelKS | restarts Iu to see if Iu shits |
| 15:00.02 | fireba11 | Iu: okay, valid point to check if everything is still okay now when tehre is no rush :-) |
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| 15:01.08 | chavodelocho | fireba11, in initramfs I can use mdadm, when I try "mdadm --details /dev/md01" appears that disk number 2 was removed |
| 15:01.25 | chavodelocho | fireba11, this is /dev/sdc3 |
| 15:01.49 | module000 | SerajewelKS: hrm, I didn't know apt would do that to a source package. it seems implicit that users would tweak a source package |
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| 15:03.02 | SerajewelKS | module000: apt has no clue that it's a source package. you installed a binary package that you built with a source package. |
| 15:03.13 | SerajewelKS | module000: every binary package is built from a source package, no? |
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| 15:03.58 | chavodelocho | fireba11, I have raid 1 and raid 5 |
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| 15:05.07 | EmleyMoor | ? |
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| 15:06.06 | cahoot | !ru |
| 15:06.06 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:07.15 | nomoa | Hi, I can configure ppp ip-up scripts on a client when it connect to a pptpd server but how can I do ip-up scripts on the server side when a client connect? |
| 15:07.15 | chavodelocho | fireba11, sorry man, are three "mds", when I analyze, the md0, md1 and md2, all say that number 2 is out |
| 15:07.17 | chavodelocho | fireba11, 3 active devices and 3 working devices |
| 15:08.11 | EmleyMoor | What does md2 consist of? pastebin that bit of the output... |
| 15:08.13 | EmleyMoor | !pb |
| 15:08.23 | EmleyMoor | !pastebin |
| 15:08.23 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 15:09.10 | chavodelocho | fireba11, only my md0 is RAID 1, the md1 and md2 is RAID 5 |
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| 15:11.58 | ben_h_ | hi all |
| 15:12.00 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: pastebin /proc/mdstat |
| 15:12.20 | ben_h_ | anyone know if there's a script or other programatic way to tell if a certain /etc/init.d service is set to start on boot? |
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| 15:12.36 | ben_h_ | i'm using update-rc.d to enable/disable |
| 15:12.43 | ben_h_ | but i'm looking for a way to query the current state. |
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| 15:13.16 | petemc | test for the existence of a Sfoo link in /etc/rc?.d/ |
| 15:13.20 | cahoot | ben_h_: some of them have entries in /etc/default |
| 15:13.25 | EmleyMoor | ben_h_: Best way is to look in /etc/rcX.d where X is the relevant runlevel |
| 15:13.38 | EmleyMoor | If it has an S link it will start |
| 15:13.43 | ben_h_ | yeah that's what i was thinking EmleyMoor - just thought there might be a script to wrap it |
| 15:13.47 | ben_h_ | cause i'll have to check rc3 and rc5 |
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| 15:14.21 | ben_h_ | hmm well i guess only 3 is really important |
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| 15:14.32 | ben_h_ | in fact, yeah - if it's in 5 but not 3, then for my purposes it's not 'enabled' |
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| 15:14.37 | ben_h_ | and update-rc.d should be run |
| 15:14.39 | ben_h_ | nice. cheers |
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| 15:15.05 | petemc | debian uses 2 by default... |
| 15:15.10 | nkuttler | ben_h_: man rcconf |
| 15:15.20 | designs703 | Can I use the passwd command to edit a passwd file? I can't remember which command to use to add a new user to this file |
| 15:15.29 | ben_h_ | nkuttler: checking it out now, cheers |
| 15:15.30 | designs703 | (not /etc/passwd) |
| 15:15.41 | ben_h_ | petemc: really? i thought 3 was the default console runlevel. |
| 15:15.46 | petemc | no, 2 |
| 15:15.49 | ben_h_ | huh |
| 15:15.52 | ben_h_ | there you go :) |
| 15:16.02 | petemc | designs703: mkpasswd? what is it you want to do |
| 15:16.54 | ben_h_ | ooh that's nice |
| 15:16.58 | ben_h_ | rcconf --list | grep servicename |
| 15:17.00 | designs703 | petemc, Specifically? Someone set up a Trac installation here before me that uses a regular passwd file for authentication. I need to add my account to this file to be able to edit it |
| 15:17.38 | designs703 | petemc, I don't think mkpasswd would do it, based on the man page |
| 15:17.45 | petemc | works for my passwd files |
| 15:17.54 | petemc | you use a text editor to actually edit the file |
| 15:18.11 | designs703 | ah :0r !mkpasswd ... |
| 15:18.18 | petemc | what? |
| 15:18.22 | designs703 | petemc, vi |
| 15:18.29 | petemc | you're making no sense |
| 15:18.44 | designs703 | :0r !mkpasswd password would in theory append the hash to the end of my file |
| 15:18.52 | designs703 | haven't tried it |
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| 15:19.01 | petemc | why cant you cunt paste it? |
| 15:19.08 | designs703 | I could cunt paste it |
| 15:19.09 | ranix | lol petemc |
| 15:19.13 | designs703 | but that'd be rude |
| 15:19.30 | petemc | or echo "your.name:hashedpasswd" >> /path/to/passwd |
| 15:19.36 | Dunge | Anybody ever used TSLIB? |
| 15:19.39 | tingle | hi, i got debian lenny with fluxbox 1.0.0 but i would like to run fluxbox 1.1.1 what would be the most "elegant" way to install fluxbox 1.1.1? |
| 15:20.03 | designs703 | petemc, crap, what salt would I pass to this?? |
| 15:20.04 | petemc | designs703: do you need to do it more than once? i use a perl script |
| 15:20.06 | ranix | petemc: does that append the output as a new line, or directly to the end of the file? |
| 15:20.10 | ranix | >> that is |
| 15:20.27 | petemc | new line, i believe |
| 15:20.28 | designs703 | petemc, sure, I could do something like that too |
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| 15:21.26 | designs703 | Isn't there a frontend to passwd files (like htpasswd for Apache)? |
| 15:21.31 | petemc | designs703: http://www.yerma.org/~pete/temp/addemail.pl.txt , thats what i used to use |
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| 15:23.38 | designs703 | petemc, OK, that looks very nice. I wish I were a bit more familiar with Perl, but I get the gist of it |
| 15:23.41 | chavodelocho | fireba11, md2: active (auto-ready-only) raid 5 sda4[0] sdd4[3] sdb4[1] 1449777600 blocks, level 5 64 k chunck, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UU_U] |
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| 15:24.57 | designs703 | petemc, oh, and my Vim bit should've begun with $r, not 0r |
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| 15:26.22 | chavodelocho | fireba11, md1: inactive sda3[0] sdd3[3] sdb3[1] |
| 15:27.07 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: : Is the missing bit sdc3? |
| 15:27.14 | chavodelocho | fireba11, md0 active raid1 sda2[0] sdd2[3] sdb2[1] |
| 15:27.26 | chavodelocho | fireba11, yes |
| 15:28.21 | chavodelocho | fireba11, all the "mds" don't have the sdc |
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| 15:28.47 | chavodelocho | fireba11, sdc2, sdc3 and sdc4 |
| 15:29.13 | EmleyMoor | Is /dev/sdc working at all? |
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| 15:29.54 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I didn't understand |
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| 15:30.25 | EmleyMoor | Does /dev/sdc1 exist? Is it working? |
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| 15:31.59 | vi390 | is there anything like fdisk where i can touch the size of a partition after its already all running ? |
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| 15:32.28 | petemc | vi390: some filesystems can be resized dynamically |
| 15:32.31 | frostschutz | vi390: gparted...? |
| 15:32.48 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: If none of your /dev/md have the bit from /dev/sdc maybe you need to replace the drive - if you already have, you need to partition it as the old one was |
| 15:33.26 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, yes exists, but I think is not working... |
| 15:34.02 | vi390 | so gparted is not working ? :) |
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| 15:34.03 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I don't replace yet the driver |
| 15:34.13 | EmleyMoor | OK - the rest of you, what's a good test to see if a disk may work? |
| 15:34.17 | vi390 | ah ok it was another subject ;) |
| 15:34.34 | vi390 | having a look at gparted |
| 15:34.37 | vi390 | thx |
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| 15:36.11 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, to replace the disk, must have to be the same of the others? |
| 15:36.22 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: Try fdisk -l /dev/sdc |
| 15:36.46 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: No - it just needs to have at least the same number of sectors |
| 15:37.01 | EmleyMoor | (or more correctly, blocks) |
| 15:37.28 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I will try |
| 15:37.52 | DetroitLibertyPe | since IceApe appears to no longer be in development is it considered supported to use Mozilla SeaMonkey? |
| 15:37.56 | EmleyMoor | I have occasionally had to rebuild my raid6 - never had to change a disk yet# |
| 15:38.35 | vi390 | petemc: I guess ext3 does not belong to the list of easy resizable filesystems :) |
| 15:39.13 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, if my disk crashed, is more easy to replace the disk or disable it? |
| 15:39.56 | EmleyMoor | Disabling it would keep you running but at a higher risk - you will lose data if another disk fails. |
| 15:40.16 | SauLus | how do I see how much ram a process uses? Im absolute size= |
| 15:40.18 | EmleyMoor | You should replace it, if it is not fit to re-enable |
| 15:40.19 | SauLus | ? |
| 15:40.40 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, understood, In this server I have 4 disks |
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| 15:41.19 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: RAID5 can cope with one disk out only. |
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| 15:42.03 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: It is also perhaps slower with one disk out |
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| 15:43.55 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, fdisk -l is only informations about my disk |
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| 15:45.14 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: Hmmm... hold on |
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| 15:46.56 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: Do fdisk /dev/sdc, p and enter |
| 15:47.25 | EmleyMoor | Does the partition table make sense? |
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| 15:49.06 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, yes, make |
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| 15:49.26 | bkraptor | hi. can anyone tell me how I can check whether a bugfix has propagated from upstream? |
| 15:49.26 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, Is equal of other disks |
| 15:49.45 | fsdfds | how do i download all the list of videos (streaming) from a site |
| 15:50.01 | EmleyMoor | OK - well, you could try re-adding its partitions to the arrays |
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| 15:50.50 | EmleyMoor | mdadm /dev/md2 --add /dev/sdc4 |
| 15:50.51 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, All the partitions or only the "sdcs" partitions? |
| 15:51.11 | EmleyMoor | Only the sdc partitions |
| 15:51.20 | EmleyMoor | The remainder are already in |
| 15:51.38 | EmleyMoor | (could be wrong about the command but it is at least close |
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| 15:53.10 | omidlenny | hey all |
| 15:53.54 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: cat /proc/mdstat to observe rebuilding |
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| 15:55.12 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, ok I will try, before, tell me something please, when I try "mdadm - -detail /dev/md0 (or 1 and 2)", show me that disk number 2 was remove |
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| 15:55.32 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, the0, 1 and 3 are active sync |
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| 15:56.02 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: Yes, that is what I would expect |
| 15:56.08 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, and disk 2 none show me that is /dev/sdc |
| 15:56.19 | EmleyMoor | You need to add disk 2 back in to each |
| 15:56.22 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I will add now |
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| 16:02.24 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I do with md0 |
| 16:02.37 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, the process was donw |
| 16:02.42 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I think |
| 16:03.45 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, when I try now "mdadm --detail /dev/md0", sdc is not removed any more |
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| 16:05.53 | fsdfds | dont you feel scared of hot and cold and cut pains it hurts very bad so how do you have so many wars |
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| 16:07.38 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I do in all the "mds", in the greater partition are with the "spare rebuilding" status |
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| 16:08.32 | enouf | SauLus: there is no absolute size - see http://koltsoff.com/pub/ures/ read - then install meminfo |
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| 16:09.07 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: As long as it completes successfully it should be fine |
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| 16:11.08 | ewet | i will upgrade my system and install a raid system. is it a wise idea to use the old drive in a virtual machine so i can always switch back to my old status? |
| 16:12.05 | Ambush | i did exactly that, went raid, kept my old drive just the way it was, i keep it mounted so i can use it for backups, and if i need to, i can always fall back on the old drive |
| 16:12.09 | Ambush | if the raid were to fail or something :) |
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| 16:12.54 | eject_ck | Hi all, I'm playing with mono on Lenny |
| 16:13.01 | enouf | you only need RAM for a VM? |
| 16:13.26 | ewet | Ambush: i am concerned about having hardware related problems because the vm will use significantly different devices |
| 16:13.41 | eject_ck | I just noticed that Ajax available on Lenny - I see that there is no System.Web.Extensions.dll |
| 16:13.42 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I hope, but until now seems at everything is ok |
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| 16:14.14 | enouf | please don't talk about DLLs in here :-p |
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| 16:14.29 | eject_ck | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=System.Web.Extensions.dll&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
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| 16:14.52 | eject_ck | enouf: why not ? There is not really DLL :) it's IDL assembly |
| 16:15.11 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, Do you think that will take? |
| 16:15.38 | eject_ck | btw, it's present there http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=System.Web.Extensions.dll&mode=path&suite=testing&arch=any |
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| 16:15.59 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: It ought. cat /proc/mdstat occasionally to monitor progress |
| 16:17.29 | ewet | Ambush: did you just mount it to have access to the data or did you use it in a vm? |
| 16:18.40 | enouf | eject_ck: ah ok - BTW, are you aware of apt-file ? |
| 16:18.52 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, hehe I think it will, 6.5 percent! |
| 16:19.31 | Ambush | ewet: just mounted it for access to the data, not for actual use in the VM |
| 16:19.36 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, Finishing the process I only reboot the server? |
| 16:19.42 | eject_ck | :) |
| 16:19.45 | eject_ck | enouf: ys |
| 16:19.59 | ewet | Ambush: okay |
| 16:20.03 | eject_ck | ok, I'm going to full-update |
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| 16:20.11 | eject_ck | to testing |
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| 16:21.08 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: No - no nood even to do that |
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| 16:21.14 | EmleyMoor | no need even to to |
| 16:22.41 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, well, but I'm in initramfs, the server don't up |
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| 16:23.35 | xiq | Hello, Is there something like a Debian Artwork Team? |
| 16:23.44 | EmleyMoor | chavodelocho: Ah, in that case, yes |
| 16:24.36 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, ok, :-) thanks! |
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| 16:25.28 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I will launch, I think that will take some minutes, you will go out soon? |
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| 16:26.55 | EmleyMoor | Yes - I am going home now |
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| 16:28.01 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, hehe not sounds good... Have you ever some idea to this happen? |
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| 16:28.19 | EmleyMoor | Had it happen twice to me for no obvious reason |
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| 16:29.06 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, vixi!! Ok, thanks for help! I will launch... |
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| 16:31.07 | d1b | hi there how do i set the default compile options used? |
| 16:31.18 | d1b | say when i go apt-get -t -b source X |
| 16:32.58 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, another question, only one disk failed, my system should be up? |
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| 16:33.06 | patrikf | d1b: debian/rules is responsible for running configure scripts and the like |
| 16:33.09 | yareckon | anyone trying to get gwibber (identica/twitter client) working on debian unstable, I shortened florijan's howto a bit http://castyour.net/node/85 |
| 16:33.14 | themill | d1b: you don't use the -b option for apt-get; /msg dpkg package recompile |
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| 16:35.42 | enouf | and if you're going to use -t, you should specify which repo/release? |
| 16:35.44 | d1b | themill: wa? |
| 16:35.50 | d1b | enouf: i do ;) |
| 16:35.54 | d1b | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.54 | d1b | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.07 | d1b | fail.. |
| 16:36.18 | enouf | !debian/rules |
| 16:36.18 | themill | dpkg: tell d1b about package recompile |
| 16:36.18 | dpkg | The makefile that's used by dpkg-buildpackage when building a .deb from source. Edit debian/rules before you run "fakeroot debian/rules binary" (or "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot") to create a custom .deb package. For more info, ask me about <source>. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number or ask me about <hold>. |
| 16:36.45 | d1b | enouf: yes i have edited that. but there is also the default taken. which is -02 |
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| 16:37.59 | ajavid | hey |
| 16:38.11 | ajavid | whats going on in the world of #debian? |
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| 16:38.21 | themill | enouf. d1b: apt-get source ignores the -t option anyway, you need to specify the version with packagename=version |
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| 16:38.41 | ajavid | high version # source takes priority |
| 16:38.48 | d1b | themill: it seems to work... |
| 16:38.56 | d1b | oh i seee ajavid |
| 16:38.58 | ajavid | if you have deb-src for lenny and for sid, sid will be pulled |
| 16:39.15 | ajavid | you can't dl a source from specific repo with -t |
| 16:39.34 | d1b | ajavid: ok. |
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| 16:39.52 | d1b | nice to know what i'm doing wrong ;) |
| 16:40.09 | ajavid | (at least I think thats the default behaviour) |
| 16:40.18 | ajavid | I am pretty sure I'm right, but I could be wrong. |
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| 16:41.33 | d1b | ajavid: what's the tool to automagically add a new changelog item ? |
| 16:41.44 | enouf | interesting - haven't had to mess with -t much |
| 16:41.46 | d1b | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.02 | \amethyst | d1b: dch |
| 16:42.05 | enouf | dchange? |
| 16:42.13 | enouf | er .. yeah what |
| 16:42.15 | \amethyst | d1b: from the package 'devscripts' |
| 16:42.15 | d1b | yep that's it thank you |
| 16:42.20 | enouf | \amethyst: said |
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| 16:42.42 | d1b | enouf: i have . |
| 16:42.56 | enouf | i have - ? |
| 16:43.26 | enouf | oh, i have'.' (end of sentence - heh) |
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| 16:44.12 | d1b | oh sorry lag. |
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| 16:45.40 | d1b | but this still hasn't solved my isue with the default config option being -O2.. i'm trying to use hardening options, and the rules are not being used (cc options) everywhere during compilation |
| 16:45.57 | d1b | its now g++ tho ;) |
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| 16:51.10 | BCM43 | How can I put a cd in one computer and have it play it on several other computers connected to the same network. I cannot use the GUI. |
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| 16:51.58 | bostko | hi I want to install vhcs on my computer |
| 16:52.29 | bostko | they say that it requires php4 |
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| 16:53.05 | themill | dpkg: tell bostko about php4 |
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| 16:53.50 | mrstocks | heh what the package that contains the main probggies like ls, buin.. ps ect |
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| 16:54.45 | themill | mrstocks: coreutils. /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 16:55.14 | mrstocks | thx ! |
| 16:55.48 | ajavid | oh wow |
| 16:55.57 | ajavid | I love this new theme in KDE man, its called serenity |
| 16:56.00 | \amethyst | there's a let i++ there |
| 16:56.02 | \amethyst | doh |
| 16:56.14 | ajavid | on debian stable, aptitude install kwin-style-serenity kde-style-serenity |
| 16:56.25 | ajavid | fucking beautiful man. |
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| 16:57.15 | bostko | can I put on vhcs system php5 |
| 16:57.56 | themill | bostko: you'd have to ask them. (If the answer is "no", then you really want to use something that is actively maintained rather than abandon-ware) |
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| 16:59.35 | bostko | http://pastebin.com/m6b90a172 |
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| 16:59.47 | bostko | in the docs folder |
| 17:00.03 | bostko | there is a file called debian -packages |
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| 17:00.26 | bostko | these are debian packages required to set up vhcs |
| 17:00.48 | bostko | do you think it is a problem if I install php5 |
| 17:01.13 | nkuttler | bostko: what's vhcs? |
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| 17:01.24 | nkuttler | ah, another control panel... |
| 17:01.25 | bostko | http://vhcs.net/new/ |
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| 17:01.40 | nkuttler | bostko: ask your hoster or whoever you got it from |
| 17:01.44 | d1b | there is virtual host something or other. |
| 17:01.55 | d1b | in debian .. finding it now |
| 17:02.03 | craigevil | anyone whats the hell is up on oftc? #debian channel there has This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member of the channel to join. when you try to join |
| 17:02.30 | nkuttler | craigevil: spammer attack? |
| 17:02.32 | themill | craigevil: botnet invasion -- channel is temporarily locked while staff try to sort things out |
| 17:02.37 | craigevil | ooops missed a know in that first part |
| 17:02.44 | \amethyst | craigevil: debian-mentors was just having a massive minutes-long wave of joins/disconnects |
| 17:02.50 | themill | Oh, and a large number of them are from mibbit.com. How topical. |
| 17:02.55 | craigevil | figured that #sidux and #debian-de got hit as well |
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| 17:03.20 | d1b | ooo what's up bots targeting debian now? |
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| 17:03.49 | d1b | bostko: dtc-core and a few others are in debian. |
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| 17:04.29 | fxiny | wt4x ! oftc uder attack ? |
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| 17:05.38 | mrstocks | oftc rules |
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| 17:07.16 | enouf | BCM43: all i can suggest offhand is to poke about here http://linux-sound.org/netaudio.html |
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| 17:08.59 | SerajewelKS | i just rebooted to an automated fsck, and there are 32 inodes that contain multiply-claimed blocks. there doesn't seem to be any relation between the files -- one block is claimed both by an ubuntu ISO and /usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/fast-user-switch-applet.mo |
| 17:09.22 | SerajewelKS | this seems bizarre. google suggests HD failure, which i will investigate when i can get the system booted again. |
| 17:09.33 | SerajewelKS | in the meantime, should i clone those blocks? |
| 17:09.38 | enouf | you speak hungarian? |
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| 17:10.20 | SerajewelKS | shrug, i think it came with locales |
| 17:10.31 | SerajewelKS | i'm more interested in how it shares a block with an ubuntu ISO |
| 17:10.58 | fxiny | i'm having fs problem as well . and the tubes are full of this errors |
| 17:11.12 | enouf | well, what FStype is it? and why did you do the automated fsck? |
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| 17:11.33 | SerajewelKS | enouf: ext3, and it did an fsck since it's been mounted 35 times |
| 17:11.45 | SerajewelKS | enouf: seems like it's a good idea after all, this is a mess |
| 17:11.50 | enouf | fxiny: wt4x! .. Deschutes mafiaso to the rescue! :-p |
| 17:12.06 | fxiny | so now i just close any irss and firefrog before shutdown -h now , becase most of the borked files are irssi opened logs file and firefox opened files |
| 17:12.20 | SerajewelKS | enouf: most of the files that have shared blocks seem to be hu locale files |
| 17:12.34 | fxiny | enouf: i'm in a tiny oftc chan , no bots there ;) |
| 17:12.38 | enouf | SerajewelKS: ahh .. for my older HDDs i used tune2fs to set it to fsck every 3 mounts ;-) |
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| 17:12.53 | SerajewelKS | enouf: well it's a laptop, so... |
| 17:12.56 | enouf | fxiny: heh |
| 17:13.01 | enouf | SerajewelKS: ouch |
| 17:13.15 | fxiny | enouf: ze PII lodge maffia :P |
| 17:13.24 | SerajewelKS | enouf: when i run fsck -n so i can see what the problems are, the last error is "block bitmap differences" -- does this mean there is a backup of the block layout somewhere? |
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| 17:14.38 | enouf | SerajewelKS: not that it's related - but i use localepurge ;-) (but /usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/ exists, but contains nothing) |
| 17:14.45 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: bitmaps and load of errors ? have you ext3.fsck -vf the damned device ? check which files are borked |
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| 17:15.11 | enouf | SerajewelKS: superblock |
| 17:15.41 | fxiny | i'm curious , because i am 100& sure my hd is ok , SMART and badblocks reporting nothing |
| 17:15.47 | enouf | IIRC at ~ every 32k or so? |
| 17:15.52 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: yes, most of the files are hu locale files |
| 17:16.00 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: but the blocks are shared with such things as ubuntu ISOs |
| 17:16.19 | SerajewelKS | i am currently running e2fsck -c to see if there's any bad blocks |
| 17:16.33 | SerajewelKS | if that doesn't find any then i will try -cc |
| 17:16.36 | enouf | SerajewelKS: perhaps the FS went bonkers at one point and didn't sync properly |
| 17:16.37 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: ubu ? is the curse of the orange horseman then ! :P |
| 17:16.47 | fxiny | enouf: ;P |
| 17:17.05 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: heh no kidding :) i have it laying around cause of a bug i was trying to solve related to ubuntu's version of gstreamer. |
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| 17:17.13 | SerajewelKS | virtual machines ftw |
| 17:17.31 | enouf | on a laptop? |
| 17:17.44 | SerajewelKS | enouf: i have been using hibernate quite a bit, but i don't think that would have any effect unless a cache was corrupted |
| 17:17.52 | SerajewelKS | enouf: yes, i have 2GHz dual-core and 3GB RAM, why not? |
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| 17:18.02 | enouf | nothing wrong with autofscking every few mounts at boot time |
| 17:18.13 | enouf | SerajewelKS: oh, but i do |
| 17:18.15 | SerajewelKS | enouf: when it takes 10 minutes, yeah :) |
| 17:18.24 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: seriously . this fs errors are p*ng me off , and they are all firefox files and irssi files or anyway opened files when i just go with shutdown -h now |
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| 17:18.37 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: are you seeing the same thing? |
| 17:18.54 | enouf | never has ext3 FSCK taken more than 1 minute here - but my / FS is under 10G :-p |
| 17:18.56 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: no about locales , only hone files |
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| 17:19.12 | SerajewelKS | i love how googling multiply-claimed blocks leads to the ubuntu forums where a generous reading of the thread is "the blind leading the blind" |
| 17:19.16 | fxiny | and yes , i did badblock and all SMART tests |
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| 17:19.48 | SerajewelKS | with such gems as "Looking briefly at the man pages, it seems that e2fsck differs from fsck in that it works specifically with an ext2 or ext3 file system, whereas fsck can work with any file system." |
| 17:19.48 | enouf | SerajewelKS: especially if you suspend to swap - i can certainly imagine issues caused by hibernating improperly |
| 17:20.00 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: i ain't got any ubu file here |
| 17:20.06 | SerajewelKS | enouf: i do suspend to swap... what issues would that cause? |
| 17:20.21 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: it's not about the files specifically, it's about how such distant files wound up sharing blocks |
| 17:20.22 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: but , i googled for my fs erros and they are pretty common |
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| 17:20.44 | helo | how do i specify the number of threads with make-kpkg? (like make -j4) |
| 17:20.56 | enouf | SerajewelKS: possible corruption if things aren't done in the proper order, or if they don't have enough time to complete |
| 17:21.17 | patrikf | helo: "man make-kpkg" |
| 17:21.22 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: so i'm trying to shut down in the cleanest lame way to see if i'm right |
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| 17:21.46 | SerajewelKS | enouf: hmm |
| 17:22.22 | fxiny | last stupid file . for instance . was the freenode irssi dir which instead of being a dir was some funny file |
| 17:22.29 | SerajewelKS | so here's my question. if these files are sharing blocks, that means that the fs thinks that at some point in the file's stream, they share a block of data, correct? so if it is corruption of the block map and i choose to clone, then one of the N files that share a particular block are probably going to be toast, right? |
| 17:22.54 | SerajewelKS | or rather N-1 of the N files |
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| 17:23.25 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 17:24.34 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: i don't have any system fs corruption , just home files |
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| 17:25.01 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: thankfully my corruption seems to be isolated to system files that i don't use or need |
| 17:25.36 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: but the corruption also spreads to my /home, which is far more disconcerting for my use case -- i can always reinstall my laptop system, but if it touches some of my personal data, i can't just recreate that |
| 17:25.42 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: yeahh , some strange owner . and more garbage |
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| 17:26.19 | helo | this realtek r8169 onboard ethernet card is only detected when i boot occasionally... sometimes it is in lspci and works fine, sometimes it is not there |
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| 17:26.39 | helo | could i need a newer kernel, or is this not OS related? |
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| 17:27.40 | Alam_Lenny | helo, are you sure that the PCI card is set in all the way? |
| 17:27.43 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: so , i had corrupted : ~/.mozilla files , irssi logs . saved firefox files only , no torrents or mail . just those files |
| 17:28.10 | SerajewelKS | fxiny: well if i'm lucky all the corruption will be things like ubuntu ISOs and system files that i can reinstall or redownload |
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| 17:28.24 | SerajewelKS | i'm still going to run fsck -cc from a livecd later though, i don't need this shit again :( |
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| 17:29.01 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: i have two hd and two lenny , so i play safe |
| 17:29.18 | ranamalo | while trying to install lenny via debootstrap I ge the following error: |
| 17:29.21 | ranamalo | debootstrap warning failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-18_i386.deb |
| 17:29.30 | SerajewelKS | ranamalo: are you root? |
| 17:29.56 | ranamalo | SerajewelKS: it's a pxe install |
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| 17:30.13 | fxiny | SerajewelKS: all i want is : some mail or torrent corrupyed files . that's why i close firefox and irssi properly |
| 17:30.15 | SerajewelKS | ranamalo: does it say what the failure is? |
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| 17:31.13 | ranamalo | SerajewelKS: it says what I posted the dpkg command I assume |
| 17:31.28 | SerajewelKS | ranamalo: it could also be the chroot command |
| 17:31.36 | ranamalo | SerajewelKS: true |
| 17:31.55 | enouf | SerajewelKS: i like to be safe, i use reiserfs O_o |
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| 17:32.16 | SerajewelKS | enouf: never had many problems with ext3 really |
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| 17:32.34 | enouf | you do now :-p |
| 17:32.38 | fxiny | enouf: heheeh |
| 17:32.50 | fxiny | i can't say that , you go ahead :P |
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| 17:33.19 | SerajewelKS | besides, isn't ext older than reiser? |
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| 17:33.25 | SerajewelKS | e.g. more tested in production environments |
| 17:33.39 | fxiny | one thing i dislike is dir_index |
| 17:33.46 | maligor | enouf, I like to be safe, I use ntfs-3g O_O |
| 17:33.47 | ranamalo | SerajewelKS: do you have any ideas? |
| 17:33.50 | fxiny | can't stand it |
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| 17:34.10 | testi_ | Is there a terminal emulator or a setting in a known terminal emulator that writes characters to the terminal if the user is typing (maybe in a different color, until the the application echoes/overwrites these characters)? That would be useful if I'm on a remote shell with high response time. |
| 17:34.20 | SerajewelKS | ranamalo: nope |
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| 17:34.47 | DanDare | Hello, I have Etch installed in the main HDD and just installed Lenny in a new HDD. I did not configured grub at install time but changed Etch´s grub configuration to have an option to boot Lenny. After i boot in Lenny system ends with this screen: http://www.minasambiente.com/boot.jpg . After i enter the root password looks like everything is working fine, is Lenny welcome screen that ugly really or it´s something fault ? |
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| 17:35.32 | enouf | maligor: fat12 ftw |
| 17:35.41 | maligor | DanDare, that looks like singleuser mode |
| 17:35.55 | valdyn | DanDare: you had an error |
| 17:36.05 | valdyn | DanDare: which caused this prompt |
| 17:36.17 | maligor | well, I'd say he has 'single' in kernel cmd |
| 17:36.22 | maligor | it'd do that too |
| 17:36.25 | valdyn | maligor: yea, i think youre right |
| 17:36.32 | valdyn | maligor: as i see nothing like an error |
| 17:36.43 | DanDare | valdyn, i cant see any error message in boot proccess, how to do now ? |
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| 17:37.00 | maligor | DanDare, do you have 'single' specified in grub for lenny?-) |
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| 17:37.29 | DanDare | maligor, i must check ! Thanks for the tip |
| 17:37.38 | fxiny | no fs error yes, just sinlge user |
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| 17:38.23 | DanDare | maligor, yeah i have single ... i think you found where´s faulty, i will try changing |
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| 17:40.01 | DanDare | it´s bit confusing modular grub configuration in debian |
| 17:41.32 | DanDare | maligor, it´s changed, it was "single", thank you so much |
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| 17:42.48 | DanDare | now i can log remotely :) |
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| 17:47.48 | DanDare | i don know "how" but looks like i have a better performance with Lenny... maybe the other HDD is better seek time ... |
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| 17:52.08 | maligor | lenny has the magic smoke catalyst v2.0, it improves performance |
| 17:52.39 | helo | Alam_Lenny: it is onboard, it cannot be set any other way |
| 17:52.59 | Alam_Lenny | heh... |
| 17:54.04 | feaddd | ¶Ô debhelper ˵: chinese? |
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| 18:03.01 | muhah | why cant it find my external usb disk ? |
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| 18:03.31 | nkuttler | muhah: dmesg | tail |
| 18:03.40 | muhah | "Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods" <- from /var/log/messages |
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| 18:04.38 | nkuttler | !tell muhah about paste |
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| 18:04.46 | nkuttler | muhah: paste whole output |
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| 18:05.45 | muhah | http://paste.debian.net/39929/ |
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| 18:05.54 | aspirinica_c | salve |
| 18:05.56 | Zharf | uh |
| 18:06.11 | Zharf | I set Option "DontZap" "false" in xorg.conf but it doesn't seem to have any effect |
| 18:06.18 | aspirinica_c | !list |
| 18:06.18 | dpkg | aspirinica_c: VATTENE VIA |
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| 18:06.37 | aspirinica_c | perche |
| 18:06.47 | fxiny | hahah lists scavengers :P |
| 18:06.50 | Zharf | also my keyboard config crap in xorg.conf doesn't seem to have any effect |
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| 18:07.16 | nkuttler | muhah: looks like the drive isn't partitioned? |
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| 18:08.22 | muhah | the drive is partitioned however |
| 18:08.41 | muhah | but it doesnt make a device node |
| 18:08.49 | Zharf | any idea why? |
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| 18:09.58 | ranamalo | any debootstrap guru around? |
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| 18:10.24 | nkuttler | muhah: what os did you partition it on? |
| 18:10.24 | Javi-K | Hi |
| 18:10.45 | mathbr | Hi. Since some time I have the following problem: starting X always kills it, gives me garbaged VT's and starts a new X on VT8. Anyone heard of something like this recently? |
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| 18:12.20 | muhah | nkuttler: its a vfat filesystem on the external drive\ |
| 18:13.09 | nkuttler | muhah: did you build your own kernel? can you mount the drive on other boxes? |
| 18:13.26 | muhah | lsusb tells me Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1004:6018 LG Electronics, Inc. |
| 18:13.45 | muhah | no its a precompiled kernel |
| 18:14.57 | nkuttler | muhah: i guess /proc/partitions doesn't list anything? no idea.. |
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| 18:17.09 | muhah | no just the regular disks but no usb drive |
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| 18:22.20 | muhah | nkuttler: can it have anything to do with hald not running ? |
| 18:22.50 | muhah | hald gives an error : Can't start Hardware abstraction layer - please ensure dbus is running failed! |
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| 18:28.17 | funky | 'lo |
| 18:28.36 | funky | what's the new issue between ia32-libs and libc6-i386 on amd64 ? |
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| 18:29.41 | fxiny | fxiny: according to freenode "botnet invasion -- channel is temporarily locked while staff try to sort things out" |
| 18:29.44 | fxiny | oops |
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| 18:35.45 | vi390 | hi, Iam sort of stucked in a problem, and need some creative inspiration. I have Courier-imap. Which worked before a dist-upgrade. After the upgrade any log-in to Imap spits out the error "* BYE imaplogin expected exactly two arguments." when logged in with telnet on port 143. The problem is this error is not shown in the mail logs. Any idea how to find out whats going wrong? |
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| 18:36.07 | tingle | if i save porn of the internet on my usbdevice will it be tracable on my harddrive? (like shred traceable) |
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| 18:38.01 | greycat | I think most people give up on courier-imap eventually, and switch to dovecot. |
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| 18:39.08 | abrotman | i kind of like courier .. but shared maildirs didn't work the way i wanted so i went with cyrus (dovecot didn't have them at all at the time) |
| 18:39.20 | vi390 | greycat: its what I begun with. Since I discovered that I would have to convert the whole Maildir. Since its productive Data around 11GB I thought to push that Task of converting to a later date |
| 18:40.14 | vi390 | its weird Pop3 is working fine. Its just that courier-imap is not logging in. However... |
| 18:40.44 | vi390 | i would guess imap is working too, but since its not even logging in ... arghh |
| 18:40.45 | vi390 | :) |
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| 18:42.23 | greycat | courier-imap keeps making its authentication more and more and more complex until eventually you can't deal with it and you give up. |
| 18:42.41 | greycat | If you just wanted to use straight Unix accounts like me, that point was about 2 Debian versions ago. |
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| 18:43.33 | abrotman | enouf: thank you |
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| 18:44.16 | vi390 | greycat: do you mean it has changed completely, and maybe its not working like it was ? |
| 18:44.54 | greycat | It's quite probable that you need to find some configuration file somewhere and change something, yes. |
| 18:44.56 | vi390 | abrotman: is cyrus maildir compatible with courier, without converting them ? |
| 18:45.08 | abrotman | vi390: i'd guess no, but probably not hard to convert |
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| 18:46.55 | linomix | ظصؤ |
| 18:46.55 | vi390 | greycat: hmm, that could be possible, but since I do not have any log entries its hard to guess what I would have to change |
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| 18:47.42 | designs703 | Hello. I have an Apache/MySQL/Python/Ruby stack that must be built very specifically. Are there any tools in Debian similar to Arch's ABS for this? |
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| 18:48.29 | vi390 | abrotman: hmm, ok. But since I would have to make backups and all before .. Maybe I get courier to work again .. Well I like the concept of dovecot. I already installed it to the point where I have to convert the Data. Guess I would go with that, If I would have to do it all over on a new server |
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| 18:48.34 | PerryArmstrong | can anyone tell me how i can add tasks in tasksel to install the metaapackages i created....once this becomes successful i have to build a live cd so that these tasks are installed during debian installation |
| 18:49.07 | abrotman | themill: ? |
| 18:49.21 | abrotman | designs703: apt-build ? |
| 18:50.01 | designs703 | abrotman, zsh: command not found: apt-build |
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| 18:51.03 | enouf | abrotman: np - i just wasn't comprehending ,, heh |
| 18:51.19 | PerryArmstrong | can anyone tell me how i can add tasks in tasksel to install the metaapackages i created....once this becomes successful i have to build a live cd so that these tasks are installed during debian installation |
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| 18:52.03 | abrotman | designs703: you might just have to install it ..? |
| 18:52.05 | abrotman | !apt-build |
| 18:52.05 | dpkg | i heard apt-build is an apt-get front-end for recompiling packages; http://julien.danjou.info/projects/ . Warning -- this program will not optimize your packages for you as advertised; the gcc O flags and friends that you specify are not even parsed properly. In a breath, don't bother with it, because apt-get source/build-dep is far more useful. |
| 18:52.14 | abrotman | !tell PerryArmstrong about repeat |
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| 18:53.39 | PerryArmstrong | can anyone tell me how i can add tasks in tasksel to install the metaapackages i created....once this becomes successful i have to build a live cd so that these tasks are installed during debian installation |
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| 18:54.01 | _stack | "awesome" wm is broken in debian :| |
| 18:54.11 | _stack | cause of a libxcb1 update |
| 18:54.59 | Alam_Lenny | Debian Testing? |
| 18:55.12 | _stack | yes |
| 18:55.39 | abrotman | !tell PerryArmstrong about repeat |
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| 18:55.46 | simonrvn | !+repeat |
| 18:55.47 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 18:55.57 | _stack | probably downgrading all the set of package that are around libxcb1 resolves the mess. |
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| 18:59.03 | designs703 | random question...if I'm building from source with the typical configure; make; make test; make install...how do I root the installation somewhere other than /usr/local? |
| 18:59.39 | stew | designs703: with usually with --prefix |
| 19:00.04 | designs703 | stew, to ./configure? |
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| 19:00.09 | stew | designs703: yes |
| 19:00.15 | designs703 | stew, ok, thanks |
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| 19:00.25 | Niklas- | Hey. I got a raid controller that requires firmware to load up, but the initrd file being created along with a new kernel doesn't have the firmware included. How can i include the firmware in the initrd? |
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| 19:01.04 | designs703 | stew, do I have to create the destination's basic dir structure ahead of time (bin, lib, etc)? |
| 19:01.17 | stew | designs703: generally not |
| 19:01.19 | cognitiaclaeves | I'm trying to get procmail working with postfix in lenny. Procmail seems to not be getting invoked. I'm a little puzzled, as I don't see anything in any logs that procmail is being used. Is there a FAQ for procmail for lenny? |
| 19:02.17 | greycat | designs703: "make install" should do that |
| 19:02.32 | designs703 | greycat, thanks, good to know |
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| 19:04.09 | vi390 | greycat: hehe thanks for the inspiration and your idea of "that courier has changed things" I found it. They changed the parameter of Maildir= and you have to add "/"now... |
| 19:04.28 | vi390 | ok courier working again. |
| 19:05.11 | dondelelcaro | cognitiaclaeves: the default configuration uses it if you have a .procmailrc in your home directory, assuming you have procmail installed, and have mailbox_command configured to be procmail -a "$EXTENSION" |
| 19:05.50 | cognitiaclaeves | dondelelcaro: Missing the '-a "$EXTENSION" ' ... I'll try it with that. |
| 19:05.56 | cognitiaclaeves | ( thanks. ) |
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| 19:06.10 | greycat | vi390: heh, I'm glad it was an easy one |
| 19:06.50 | ajavid | dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: Address already in use |
| 19:07.46 | ajavid | doh |
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| 19:08.29 | cognitiaclaeves | dondelelcaro: I must be missing something basic. It still isn't being called correctly. Does main.cf need to be recompiled after being changed, or something? |
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| 19:09.09 | dondelelcaro | cognitiaclaeves: no, you just reload postfix. How do you know it's not running properly? Have you checked your mail logs? |
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| 19:09.43 | cognitiaclaeves | dondelelcaro: Well, I set up procmail to log verbosely, and I see no log in the logpath. ( For procmail. ) |
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| 19:10.10 | renton_ | i'm on squeeze i've a problem, when i maximize a window, the title bar disappear, if i keep the window unmaximize, everything is ok |
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| 19:10.49 | dondelelcaro | cognitiaclaeves: uh... you mean in LOGFILE? |
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| 19:11.21 | paulfm | hi everyone |
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| 19:12.01 | cognitiaclaeves | dondelelcaro: Yes. |
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| 19:13.54 | paulfm | How do I get ramdisks to show up in /dev - my kernel has ramdisk support enabled but dev has no ramdisk devices?... any help is MUCH appreciated |
| 19:14.34 | tingle | if i save porn of the internet on my usbdevice will it be tracable on my harddrive? (like shred traceable) |
| 19:15.14 | cognitiaclaeves | dondelelcaro: Does postfix indicate that it uses procmail when it receives a message? |
| 19:15.28 | ajavid | dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket: Address already in use failed! |
| 19:15.32 | ajavid | wtf |
| 19:15.41 | ajavid | nothing else is runing afaict |
| 19:16.12 | greycat | tingle: depends on what program(s) you use to "save" it. |
| 19:16.31 | ajavid | I'd appreciate it if anyone could help torubleshoot this |
| 19:16.51 | tingle | greycat: prolly firefox but it clear almost everything when i quit the client |
| 19:16.58 | greycat | tingle: e.g. web browsers often write a file into /tmp first before copying it to the final location |
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| 19:17.23 | tingle | greycat: hm but i could shred /tmp right? |
| 19:17.31 | greycat | That's your decision. |
| 19:17.47 | greycat | Your /tmp could also be a RAM disk or someting. |
| 19:17.48 | nkuttler | tingle: if you're that paranoid run an encrypted / |
| 19:18.23 | tingle | nkuttler: well for instance i have mp3 on / and want to load them on my ipod will the mp3s also be encrypted and unreadable for my ipod? |
| 19:18.34 | DEbiansqueeze | anyone try backtrack 4 in virtual box? |
| 19:18.46 | module000 | ajavid: verify nothing else is using it(ie netstat) |
| 19:19.02 | nkuttler | tingle: why don't you tell us your real problem? |
| 19:19.14 | ajavid | module000, I did |
| 19:19.24 | tingle | nkuttler: sorry not possible and its not cp if thats what you think.. |
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| 19:19.34 | renton_ | is a solution for Bug#533917 available? |
| 19:19.51 | tingle | nkuttler: nps i read into encryption thanks anyway |
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| 19:22.01 | talcite | hey guys. Is there a way to find out what's included in the openoffice.org package without having debian or ubuntu installed? |
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| 19:22.09 | mathbr | Hi. Since some time I have the following problem: starting X always kills it, gives me garbaged VT's and starts a new X on VT8. Anyone heard of something like this recently? |
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| 19:22.17 | talcite | I'm following a guide for installing openmeetings for debian, but on a centOS machine |
| 19:22.21 | ajavid | I actually netstat - adn went through the whole list |
| 19:22.22 | swankier | how do I change the scsi timeout value? |
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| 19:22.26 | ajavid | as i have no idea which port |
| 19:22.29 | ajavid | there is no bind, or dhcpd, or anything else running |
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| 19:22.49 | module000 | ajavid: you are looking for 53 |
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| 19:23.19 | ajavid | module000, you'd think... |
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| 19:23.34 | swankier | in rhel, I edit a file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
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| 19:24.44 | module000 | ajavid: `netstat -n --numeric-ports | grep 53 ` is what you should be running |
| 19:24.45 | ajavid | module000, http://paste.debian.net/39931/ |
| 19:24.51 | mathbr | The only (seemingly) relevant thing I can find in the logs is a "fatal X error" reported by gdm_slave_xioerror_handler. |
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| 19:25.11 | swankier | I need to change it as this debian install is running in a vm, and the disk can sometimes go away for a number of minutes during a nas failover |
| 19:25.20 | ajavid | module000, I am aware. Do you see anything there? |
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| 19:25.42 | module000 | ajavid: nothing looks to be holding that socket. are the logs showing you any mroe verbosity when dnsmasq tanks? |
| 19:25.50 | ajavid | nope |
| 19:26.02 | ajavid | like I said, I can't find a single thing wrong, except it fails to start |
| 19:26.05 | ajavid | this is debian stable btw |
| 19:26.29 | module000 | ajavid: beats me then. make sure you are binding it to the correct address as well |
| 19:26.40 | ajavid | everytime I search on google, it always has to take 1 fucking million seconds to look it up |
| 19:26.47 | swankier | ajavid: you logs will help point you in the right direction, and failing that, try strace |
| 19:26.58 | ajavid | always lookup, always looking up, so I installed dnsmasq, to cache, and now this headache! :( |
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| 19:27.11 | swankier | s/you/your |
| 19:27.16 | ajavid | I shouldn't have to do this on stable!!! |
| 19:27.22 | ajavid | what the fuck is this bullshit. |
| 19:27.29 | ajavid | *sigh* |
| 19:27.44 | ajavid | swankier, yeah, I have no other alternatives |
| 19:28.04 | module000 | ajavid: why do your dns lookups take that long? is your resolv.conf written wrong? |
| 19:28.08 | swankier | ajavid: I'm sorry for your frustration, but I do not think taking out on a channel that's offering help is very productive |
| 19:28.22 | greycat | I've never used dnsmasq personally. You _do_ have choices for a local caching DNS resolver. |
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| 19:28.33 | greycat | bind9 would certainly work, though it might be overkill. |
| 19:28.48 | ajavid | greycat, that true, but I'm just frustrated that debian would give me hell on stable.. thats the onlything |
| 19:29.06 | funky | uses bind9 for dns cache |
| 19:29.10 | greycat | Without understand how dnsmasq is supposed to be configured, I can't give much help. |
| 19:29.14 | greycat | understanding* |
| 19:29.37 | greycat | All I can suggest is to read its documentation, and if it's not doing what you need, then use something else instead. |
| 19:29.37 | module000 | dnsmasq uses almost no configuration, it's very a very "simple" daemon, it relies almost entirely on your hosts file |
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| 19:30.10 | module000 | ajavid: are you using init.d scripts to start it? if so...do it manually and pass -v |
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| 19:30.18 | funky | I tried it on openwrt for a while |
| 19:30.25 | delcoyote | hi |
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| 19:30.43 | h2os | anyone know how to add a timestamp to print queue? |
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| 19:31.13 | ajavid | swankier, I'm not taking anything out on anyone, I'm just blowing up, I'm entitled. :) |
| 19:31.28 | ajavid | its ok though, I've done exploded and done with. |
| 19:31.29 | greycat | h2os: CUPS? lprng? lpr? |
| 19:31.35 | swankier | certainly dissuades me from helping, at least. |
| 19:31.39 | h2os | greycat, cups |
| 19:31.53 | module000 | ajavid: you also aren't running named are you? |
| 19:33.29 | ajavid | seriously... I'm about to a;ldjfa;ljd;klajdslfj |
| 19:33.30 | ajavid | yes |
| 19:33.53 | ajavid | http://paste.debian.net/39932/ |
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| 19:34.41 | ajavid | Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasq. |
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| 19:34.53 | ajavid | module000, you got a good catch, you are the man. :) thank you very very much |
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| 19:36.14 | Dunge | Let's say I cat a device in /dev .... then when I kill it my console local seems to have been changed and everything is printed in strange symbols.... how can I get back to normal (except a reboot)? |
| 19:36.14 | module000 | ajavid: glad it's working for ya |
| 19:36.27 | module000 | Dunge: type reset |
| 19:36.32 | ajavid | reset |
| 19:36.38 | greycat | Dunge: printf '\033c' |
| 19:36.41 | Dunge | that's wont reboot? |
| 19:36.45 | greycat | although "reset" might also work |
| 19:36.50 | ajavid | no its terminal reset |
| 19:36.55 | Dunge | oh yeah it works |
| 19:36.56 | Dunge | thx |
| 19:36.58 | ajavid | initialize terminal from scratch |
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| 19:37.28 | greycat | printf '\017' might also have worked, depending on precisely what state the terminal was in |
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| 19:37.40 | Dunge | lol |
| 19:37.45 | Dunge | I guess reset is a cleaner option |
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| 19:38.14 | greycat | and there's also "tput cnorm" if your cursor goes away |
| 19:38.16 | ajavid | it is |
| 19:38.55 | ajavid | does anyone know if it possible to have 1680x1050 resolution in cli mode/console ? highest vesa goes is 1600x1200 afik |
| 19:38.59 | greycat | As you may have guessed, some of us have seen this condition a few times.... |
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| 19:39.28 | module000 | greycat: some of us are addicted to `head /dev/urandom` |
| 19:39.31 | ajavid | greycat, especially after figuring out how to get arabic input in ... or reading the quran in console and going back to english |
| 19:39.39 | ajavid | heh reset comes in fairly handy |
| 19:39.43 | module000 | greycat: it has yet to produce shakespeare yet though |
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| 19:39.55 | greycat | I've seen a few things that reset would not fix, but which \033c (hard VT100 reset) did. |
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| 19:40.23 | ajavid | module000, may I ask, how did you think of named and I didnt? |
| 19:40.36 | module000 | ajavid: google! |
| 19:40.51 | ajavid | I would have assumed the remove/purging of the bind9 packages would kill the named processes as well |
| 19:40.55 | ajavid | or is that a wrong assumption? |
| 19:41.14 | greycat | I... probably would have assumed it as well. |
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| 19:41.47 | module000 | ajavid: it should have showed up in a `netstat -n -a` though, but you only looked with grep and didn't pass "-n", it wouldn't display |
| 19:41.52 | ajavid | thats why I didn't check to see named, though I should have |
| 19:42.08 | ajavid | module000, I see |
| 19:42.18 | brolin | ajavid: use a framebuffer driver specific to your video chipset instead of vesafb? |
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| 19:42.34 | ajavid | brolin, I have radeon ATI x1900xt open source driver |
| 19:42.47 | ajavid | thats for X btw, so i should inquire with #radeon then |
| 19:42.57 | ajavid | I think there is radeonfb |
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| 19:44.11 | jaK | Hi.. why doesn't apt-get install irssi get the latest version of irssi ? |
| 19:44.17 | ajavid | greycat, yes, actually debian stable setup bind9 for me (I think I must have accidentally selected the DNS server task during install) |
| 19:44.31 | module000 | jaK: it gets the version in the debian repositories, which may not necessarily be the latest available |
| 19:44.34 | ajavid | I usually always just use dnsmasq |
| 19:44.44 | jaK | module000: when will someone update that ? |
| 19:44.46 | greycat | jaK: which version of Debian are you using? |
| 19:44.52 | jaK | module000: this version has been out for 2 months or so |
| 19:44.52 | jmoncayo | hey guys, i created a virtual box static disk 5gb, installed windows xp and it is already full :(, is there anyway to create a new disk and maybe dd the old one to the new one? |
| 19:45.00 | jaK | greycat: 5 |
| 19:45.12 | module000 | jaK: well, it probably wont' be updated in stable, unless it becomes necessary for a security update |
| 19:45.14 | greycat | judd: versions irssi |
| 19:45.16 | judd | greycat: irssi -- etch: 0.8.10-2 etch-backports: 0.8.12-5~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.8.12-6 lenny-backports: 0.8.13-1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 0.8.13-1 sid: 0.8.13-2 |
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| 19:45.26 | ajavid | ooh .13 |
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| 19:45.31 | greycat | It's unlikely that lenny (Debian 5.0) will get irssi > 0.8.12. |
| 19:45.50 | ajavid | irssi 0.8.12 (20071006 0939) |
| 19:45.52 | greycat | You can get the backport if you need it. |
| 19:45.54 | ajavid | lenny |
| 19:46.08 | ajavid | *** 0.8.12-6 0 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages |
| 19:46.10 | jaK | greycat: is that as easy as apt-get install irssi ? (i'm a newbie) |
| 19:46.16 | greycat | !backports |
| 19:46.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 19:46.21 | ajavid | .12 is in lenny |
| 19:46.30 | greycat | ajavid: yes, we got that part. |
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| 19:46.33 | ajavid | oh > nm |
| 19:46.35 | jaK | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.38 | ajavid | I can't read! |
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| 19:46.58 | jaK | greycat: is that just a new line to sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get install irssi? |
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| 19:47.01 | yggdrasil | is therea pastebin for cli ? |
| 19:47.07 | brolin | Can someone using etch please check whether their rpc.mountd supports the --manage-gids (-g) option? |
| 19:47.13 | ajavid | !clipaste |
| 19:47.19 | yggdrasil | thanks |
| 19:47.21 | ajavid | !pastewithoutx |
| 19:47.22 | dpkg | Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe> |
| 19:47.41 | greycat | !tell jaK about backports.org |
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| 19:48.15 | jaK | greycat: atfer i have followed those commands.. then i can just apt-get install irssi and it will fetch 0 8.13? |
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| 19:48.23 | greycat | basically, yes. |
| 19:48.34 | Niklas- | How can i make mkinitramfs include firmware files when it's creating initrd images? |
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| 19:48.59 | gabriel25ny | hi guys ... |
| 19:49.06 | adb | jaK: but use aptitude instead apt-get |
| 19:49.19 | gabriel25ny | what is the intel x64 version if debian ? |
| 19:49.23 | gabriel25ny | I saw only amd 64 |
| 19:49.29 | greycat | amd64 is x64 |
| 19:49.34 | greycat | or x86-64 |
| 19:49.48 | gabriel25ny | and ia64 |
| 19:49.51 | streuner | !amd64 |
| 19:49.52 | jaK | adb: i'm not familiar with aptitude, is it same command? |
| 19:49.52 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The amd64 architecture also supports running i386 debian with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. core2duo machines are amd64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
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| 19:50.13 | ajavid | Niklas-, afaik, I'd first just --initrd with kernel-package, get my initrd, then you can incorporate any number of drivers into your initrd |
| 19:50.16 | greycat | !tell gabriel25ny about amd64 |
| 19:50.26 | jaK | adb: i've added the line to /etc/apt/sources.list and done aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update |
| 19:50.29 | adb | !tell jaK about why aptitude |
| 19:50.30 | ajavid | Niklas-, debian has it documented, on how to include firmwares into your initrd for booting |
| 19:50.41 | ajavid | I will have to find the link,but perhaps |
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| 19:50.44 | ajavid | !firmware |
| 19:50.45 | dpkg | Firmware (sometimes termed "microcode") is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel modules require firmware to be provided from userspace, prior to device operation, notably for <WiFi> devices. Ask me about <listkeys firmware> and <search> my factoids. Some non-free firmware is available via Debian packages. See also http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware and <installer firmware>. |
| 19:50.55 | jaK | adb: now aptitude install irssi+ ? |
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| 19:51.07 | adb | try it |
| 19:51.20 | krushik | !why amd64 |
| 19:51.20 | dpkg | The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. At the time, Intel wanted nothing to do with it and developed IA64 instead. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T, EMT64 and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64. |
| 19:51.26 | [A]ctium__ | why does http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ go to arch.debian.org ? |
| 19:51.39 | jaK | adb: it installed irssi 0.8.12 (20071006 0939) |
| 19:51.47 | jaK | adb: :/ |
| 19:51.51 | adb | heh |
| 19:51.58 | ajavid | Niklas-, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware <- same is true I belive for any inird |
| 19:52.21 | themill | judd: versions irssi |
| 19:52.21 | judd | themill: irssi -- etch: 0.8.10-2 etch-backports: 0.8.12-5~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.8.12-6 lenny-backports: 0.8.13-1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 0.8.13-1 sid: 0.8.13-2 |
| 19:52.23 | ajavid | Initramfs is essentially a concatenation of gzipped cpio archives which are extracted into a ramdisk and used as an early userspace by the Linux kernel. |
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| 19:52.29 | greycat | shootout.alioth.debian.org and arch.debian.org both have the same IP, so perhaps their virtual host config is messed up? |
| 19:52.32 | themill | judd: /msg dpkg backports.org |
| 19:52.32 | jaK | adb: ? |
| 19:52.33 | judd | themill: Error: "/msg" is not a valid command. |
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| 19:52.35 | themill | judd: /msg dpkg backports.org |
| 19:52.35 | judd | themill: Error: "/msg" is not a valid command. |
| 19:52.40 | themill | jaK: /msg dpkg backports.org |
| 19:52.43 | themill | gah! |
| 19:52.48 | adb | jaK: take a look at http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/allpackages |
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| 19:53.15 | jaK | adb: irssi on that url is 0.8.13 .. but it installed 0.8.12 ? |
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| 19:53.25 | [A]ctium__ | greycat: that's what i figured, dunno who to ask about that though |
| 19:53.27 | ajavid | dude |
| 19:53.29 | adb | jaK: fis sources |
| 19:53.34 | adb | fix* |
| 19:53.35 | ajavid | you want what? .12? .13? |
| 19:53.51 | jaK | adb: sources is fine |
| 19:53.54 | ajavid | what do you want? whats the big deal, just build it from sid source |
| 19:53.57 | adb | jaK: paste it |
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| 19:54.31 | adb | !tell jaK about paste |
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| 19:55.18 | jaK | adb: http://pastebin.ca/1470210 |
| 19:55.38 | brolin | Can someone using etch please check whether their rpc.mountd supports the --manage-gids (-g) option? |
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| 19:55.51 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:55.52 | Niklas- | ajavid: I tried that one, the method doesn't work. |
| 19:56.43 | adb | jaK: change all 'stable' with 'lenny' in sources , and update again |
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| 19:57.01 | Niklas- | ajavid: If i cat some cpio.gz file into the initrd, it doesn't contain the files when i extract them manually from the initrd file |
| 19:57.15 | jaK | adb: that means that it will fetch all packages from lenny though? |
| 19:57.22 | adb | yes |
| 19:57.28 | jaK | adb: is that a good idea? |
| 19:57.36 | adb | yes |
| 19:57.45 | adb | uname -r ? |
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| 19:58.00 | jaK | adb: 2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 |
| 19:58.12 | adb | xen .. |
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| 19:58.54 | jaK | adb: isn't stable = lenny? |
| 19:59.04 | adb | yes |
| 19:59.10 | jaK | adb: so why change? |
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| 19:59.31 | adb | because is better so |
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| 19:59.48 | greycat | if your sources.list says "stable" then when squeeze is released you might get a surprise |
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| 20:00.21 | limon | hi i'm trying run debian lenny on arm and i got this apt-get: /lib/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GLIBC_2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6) |
| 20:00.35 | limon | what's wrong |
| 20:00.37 | limon | ? |
| 20:00.37 | jaK | adb: is http://pastebin.ca/1470214 ok? |
| 20:00.39 | jaK | i think so |
| 20:00.45 | jaK | or greycat |
| 20:01.00 | adb | it's ok |
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| 20:01.23 | jaK | adb: are there any other suggested lines? |
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| 20:01.28 | jaK | adb: i think mine were default |
| 20:01.43 | greycat | For most Debian systems, all you need is one "deb" line. |
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| 20:02.04 | jaK | greycat: no security? |
| 20:02.11 | greycat | Oh, right, OK. Two lines. ;-) |
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| 20:02.29 | jaK | greycat: i have 3 :\ but one is backports |
| 20:02.57 | shze | I try to get acpi events working again. they worked w/ 2.6.26 and /proc/acpi/events, but that doesn't exist with 2.6.30 |
| 20:02.58 | greycat | that's OK |
| 20:03.07 | shze | hwo can I get the events from the new input devices? |
| 20:03.07 | abrotman | and most new lenny installs include volatile |
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| 20:03.23 | greycat | I don't think I've ever actually installed lenny. |
| 20:03.42 | greycat | Most of my systems are woody, sarge, etch that have been upgraded. |
| 20:04.01 | abrotman | forces 2.6 upon greycat |
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| 20:05.12 | shze | any idea how I can get acpi events from input devices eg powerbtn with 2.6.30? |
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| 20:05.28 | dserban | q: what do I do to track down why iceweasel doesn't like the flashplayer plugin? Midori rocks it out and it works generally. I have a feeling it's sound related. But running sid introduced pulse and I understand it less than the old alsa fix-isms |
| 20:05.42 | zepolen_ | is it possible to change the page size from 4kb to 2kb? |
| 20:05.50 | mosty | i created a personal repository with a couple of debian packages rebuilt with slight modifications, setup a pin via my release label. now i can install with apt-get update, but apt-get upgrade always reinstalls my packages- why is this? |
| 20:05.51 | dserban | so in short, is there some console or output I can look at when the flashplayer plugin just sits blank in a page? |
| 20:05.51 | greycat | "old alsa"... jeez. |
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| 20:06.11 | abrotman | dserban: doesn't like in what way ? |
| 20:06.32 | dserban | greycat: alsa == current, I just meant the "old" fixits to make crap work. |
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| 20:07.02 | dserban | abrotman: flash player just sits there, where for example a youtube video should be loading, it's a white piece of nothing. |
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| 20:07.38 | abrotman | dserban: about:plugins .. which flash is it using ? |
| 20:07.48 | mosty | dserban, which flash plugin do you have installed, and can you confirm that in iceweasel's about:plugins ? |
| 20:08.08 | dserban | ok checking |
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| 20:09.32 | swankier | is anyone aware of how to change the scsi timeout value within udev? |
| 20:09.33 | dserban | flashplugin-nonfree is installed. yep confirmed in about:plugins. libflashplayer.so 10.0 r22 |
| 20:10.00 | kaizoku | Hi, I'm trying to build a package, and I'm having trouble getting it to install an init script. |
| 20:10.08 | abrotman | dserban: readlink -f /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so |
| 20:10.08 | jaK | thanks all :) |
| 20:10.12 | kaizoku | I put it in debian/sphinxsearch.init |
| 20:10.16 | mosty | dserban, the free flash plugins don't work very well- have you tried flashplugin-nonfree ? |
| 20:10.16 | kaizoku | and I tried debian/init as well |
| 20:10.34 | dserban | abrotman: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
| 20:10.39 | abrotman | mosty: that is flashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:10.45 | abrotman | dserban: 64bit? |
| 20:10.50 | kaizoku | Am I missing something? |
| 20:10.52 | dserban | mosty, yep that's the one installed |
| 20:10.58 | dserban | abrotman: yessir |
| 20:11.04 | mosty | i must be more tired than i thought |
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| 20:11.16 | dserban | hands mosty a coffee |
| 20:11.18 | abrotman | dserban: file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
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| 20:11.35 | abrotman | dserban: is it 32bit or 64bit ? |
| 20:11.39 | dserban | abrotman: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped |
| 20:11.49 | mosty | dserban, if you start iceweasel from an x terminal, you might see some flash logs there |
| 20:11.50 | dserban | 64 |
| 20:12.35 | sylarr | what can cause rc*.d/S99* not to run? |
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| 20:12.42 | dserban | oh! |
| 20:12.58 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, hi man, the process finished, but the sever didn't up |
| 20:13.15 | dserban | I get an error from the terminal, says failed to initialize shared library. wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 20:13.32 | abrotman | dserban: do you have a 32bit plugin somewhere? |
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| 20:13.41 | dserban | crap... I don't know... |
| 20:13.44 | greycat | sylarr: being in a different run level than you expected? |
| 20:14.16 | sylarr | greycat, it was on runlevels 2345 |
| 20:14.18 | chavodelocho | EmleyMoor, I saw that there is a md marked with inactive, is my md1, I guess that is my boot partition |
| 20:14.37 | dserban | abrotman: running find right now |
| 20:14.44 | sylarr | greycat, wouldn't that cover all options |
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| 20:15.10 | abrotman | dserban: i'd think the console msg would have told you where it was |
| 20:16.17 | dserban | abrotman: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so yeah, heh missed that. Figured I must've had something overriding it in my home directory. |
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| 20:16.49 | greycat | sylarr: one would hope so. Also, run "runlevel" to see. |
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| 20:16.54 | abrotman | dserban: i'd consider it a bug that all the browsers don't use the same plugin .. but wtf do i know |
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| 20:17.58 | abrotman | dserban: working better now ? |
| 20:18.26 | dserban | abrotman: I just wanted to make sure that -S in dpkg was the right switch to see if it belonged to a package... |
| 20:18.32 | dserban | it doesn't so I'm deleting it now |
| 20:21.04 | shze | how can I catch the powerbtn acpi event to shutdown? |
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| 20:21.16 | abrotman | shze: /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh ? |
| 20:21.47 | sylarr | greycat, runlevel return "N 2" |
| 20:21.51 | shze | abrotman: tried acpid, but it seems to use /proc/acpi/events which I don't have anymore with 2.6.30 |
| 20:22.05 | abrotman | /sys/ |
| 20:22.07 | greycat | sylarr: ok, good, then you're in run level 2. Which is the debian default. |
| 20:22.29 | greycat | sylarr: so /etc/rc2.d/S* should have been processed, if they are executable. |
| 20:22.50 | shze | abrotman: yeah, I have powerbtn as input device in /sys, but I cant find how to tell acpid about it |
| 20:23.03 | abrotman | shze: are you running lenny? |
| 20:23.16 | dserban | abrotman: works much better |
| 20:23.27 | shze | abrotman: mostly, w/ some newer things like 2.6.30 kernel |
| 20:23.55 | sylarr | greycat, so all my rc3.d rc4.d ... etc are redundant? |
| 20:24.09 | dserban | question now that I've been running it on the terminal. I get another error... Cannot open shared lib /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so... what package do I need for that? |
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| 20:25.46 | Neh_ | Hi. |
| 20:25.51 | dserban | n/m using p.d.o to find it :) |
| 20:26.02 | shze | can I use hal to get acpi events from input devices (powerbtn) w/ 2.6.30? |
| 20:26.05 | Neh_ | How can I update the email address in my gpg key, and update it on keyserver? |
| 20:26.07 | abrotman | apt-file might be faster |
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| 20:26.14 | dim | hi |
| 20:26.35 | dim | I'm packaging some stuff and debian/rules seems not to have DESTDIR defined in the install target |
| 20:26.44 | dim | surely I'm missing sth? |
| 20:26.52 | adb | !tell dserban about search |
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| 20:28.31 | lbruno | I have a problem with 5.0.1-netboot |
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| 20:28.56 | lbruno | the image doesn't include the 55BE302B key (the Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny)) |
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| 20:29.16 | adb | !tell dserban about apt-file |
| 20:29.19 | dserban | adb: thanks |
| 20:29.19 | lbruno | thoughts? the netinst CD image has the correct key |
| 20:29.20 | enouf | sylarr: /msg dpkg runlevels |
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| 20:30.19 | sylarr | enouf, nothing there about 2 being the final level |
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| 20:30.35 | enouf | sylarr: generally, rcS.d/scripts and rc2.d/S* (as well as /etc/default/*) all get processed on boot up |
| 20:30.46 | enouf | sylarr: see /etc/inittab |
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| 20:32.11 | gusto | :-) |
| 20:33.09 | sylarr | enouf, I have lines like l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3 |
| 20:33.20 | sylarr | enouf, for all number 123456 |
| 20:33.29 | enouf | sylarr: uncommented? so do i |
| 20:33.38 | sylarr | enouf, yes |
| 20:33.39 | enouf | sylarr: what's the issue? |
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| 20:34.06 | sylarr | enouf, the issue was that it didn't execute a service with S99 |
| 20:34.08 | paulfm | does anyone know how I make ramdisk devices like /dev/ram0 show up in /dev?... I have have ramdisk support enabled in the kernel |
| 20:34.14 | enouf | 16:03 < sylarr> what can cause rc*.d/S99* not to run? <-- rc*,d/ ? |
| 20:34.24 | sylarr | enouf, yes |
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| 20:34.31 | enouf | which rc?,d/ ? |
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| 20:34.40 | sylarr | enouf, 2345 |
| 20:35.06 | enouf | sylarr: well /etc/rc?,d/* are all symlinks |
| 20:35.09 | justin | paulfm: as a module or compiled in? |
| 20:35.19 | gnusosa | anybody here used netdisco? |
| 20:35.21 | enouf | they point to /etc/init.d/* |
| 20:35.27 | justin | !wayttd gnusosa |
| 20:35.28 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, gnusosa? |
| 20:35.39 | paulfm | justin: well - how do I tell?.. I went to makemenu - and ramdisk support was enabled |
| 20:35.42 | gnusosa | map my school netwrok. |
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| 20:36.08 | sylarr | enouf, I then played with chkconfig, and it has rearranged all the numbers, and now that scipt run as S20, but I have an other system, and I am not sure if that rearrangement is good for my health |
| 20:36.14 | cire | When getting lot of AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP Errors in syslog, is this a kernel- or hardware- or bios-issue? |
| 20:36.26 | justin | gnusosa: do you know the SNMP community strings for the network? |
| 20:36.41 | justin | paulfm: i think for it to work if compiled in you need to add the ramdisk options to the kernel commandline |
| 20:37.03 | justin | paulfm: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html |
| 20:37.06 | paulfm | justin: well in grub I have ramdisk_size=16000 |
| 20:37.16 | paulfm | checking link |
| 20:37.23 | gnusosa | justin: no, how can i get SNMP strings |
| 20:37.31 | paulfm | justin: yeah thats the link I was using as a guide :-) |
| 20:37.46 | justin | gnusosa: SNMP community strings ~= passwords |
| 20:37.57 | gnusosa | ooo |
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| 20:38.06 | paulfm | justin: but it assumes I have /dev/ramX devices... |
| 20:38.16 | enouf | sylarr: chkconfig shouldn't have anything to do with runlevels - except for perhaps a .postinst script that runs invoke-rc.d or update-rc.d and plops a script into /etc/init.d/ or rcS.d/ |
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| 20:38.21 | paulfm | justin: the article is based on redhat |
| 20:38.23 | justin | paulfm: you running udev or something? |
| 20:38.32 | justin | I have /dev/ramX devices... |
| 20:38.35 | paulfm | justin: yup - debian etch with udev |
| 20:38.49 | paulfm | justin: you do?... whered mine go? |
| 20:39.01 | sylarr | enouf, it has changed the XX numbers in SXXscriptname |
| 20:39.01 | enouf | sylarr: update-rc.d uses S20 as default when you use 'defaults' |
| 20:39.05 | paulfm | justin: I was wondering if I have to do something special in udev |
| 20:39.13 | justin | paulfm: i didn't |
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| 20:39.27 | enouf | sylarr: which pkg is this? |
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| 20:39.41 | sylarr | enouf, rc.local |
| 20:39.51 | enouf | that's not a package |
| 20:39.57 | paulfm | justin: hrmmm.. its there anyway to tell if the kernal actually has ramdisk support on... with some command line command? |
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| 20:41.15 | enouf | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y |
| 20:41.38 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.05 | themill | judd kconfig DEV_RAM |
| 20:42.07 | judd | themill: Searching for 'DEV_RAM' in lenny kernel config gives BLK_DEV_RAM=y BLK_DEV_RAM_COUNT=16 BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=8192. |
| 20:42.15 | justin | paulfm: yeah, the dmesg stuff that page mentions |
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| 20:42.37 | sylarr | enouf, it is what I am talking about though. PS. I have tried even making a copy of that file, and install it with update-rc.d and it didn't work too |
| 20:42.37 | themill | paulfm: the stock debian kernels have that enabled (see judd's last line) |
| 20:43.09 | paulfm | justin: ok.. I have some dmesg output - but not how the article shows |
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| 20:43.22 | paulfm | judd: cool - thanks... I am looking at my config file |
| 20:43.24 | judd | paulfm: Error: "cool" is not a valid command. |
| 20:43.37 | paulfm | is judd a bot? |
| 20:43.59 | sylarr | is there a way to make "mail" work as a normal client to SMTP, with user name, password, and hostname/ip ? |
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| 20:44.47 | dondelelcaro | sylarr: install a local MTA to actually do the transport, and it'll work like that. |
| 20:45.07 | paulfm | justin: all I get in dmesg is [ 0.00000000] RAMDISK: 0fd8c000 - offef1a2 |
| 20:46.30 | paulfm | justin: hmm.. my config says blk_dev_ram is not set |
| 20:46.47 | justin | paulfm: wel, that's your problem then |
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| 20:47.06 | sylarr | dondelelcaro, maybe, but that will not be authenticated |
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| 20:47.22 | paulfm | justin: I saw ramdisk support enabled under "general".. is it hidden somewhere else? |
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| 20:47.33 | justin | paulfm: dunno |
| 20:48.01 | sylarr | dondelelcaro, plus I already have a non standard mta on the system |
| 20:48.13 | paulfm | justin: k - thanks for the help... gonna goog it |
| 20:48.24 | tuxcrafter | hi all, how can i resize my ext2 partition to make an 16MB 0xef filetype partition on the end of /dev/sda from the commandline? could somebody show the needed commands? |
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| 20:49.02 | enouf | sylarr: you never mentioned rc.local AFAICT, you asked about /etc/rc*,d/S symlinks - and you do not appear to be able to answer my queries about which package -nor do i understand what you did (or what you perceive what another software did) |
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| 20:50.06 | sylarr | enouf, It is just the rc.local script ,not a package |
| 20:50.26 | tuxcrafter | he sylarr are you still busy with that rc.local stuff |
| 20:50.32 | luchix | hi to all |
| 20:50.42 | luchix | i need help....?? |
| 20:50.43 | tuxcrafter | sylarr: didn't i help you out yesterday? |
| 20:52.28 | greycat | I was a bit surprised when I came back here and found out Debian had caved in and finally given an rc.local script. |
| 20:52.28 | sylarr | tuxcrafter, yes. I am trying to figure out why it didn't work |
| 20:52.28 | luchix | i need help with gnome menu bar?? |
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| 20:52.30 | sylarr | tuxcrafter, and if I should fix it on the other system like I did with this one, or |
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| 20:52.30 | sylarr | tuxcrafter, find another fix, and undo this system fix, and refix |
| 20:52.30 | lbruno | hey justin, since you replied to netdisco: have any recommendations on network mapping? Some emphasis on (PC --> switch 1, port 34 --> switch 2, port 3), if you get my drift? |
| 20:52.32 | tuxcrafter | sylarr: you just want rc.local to run with the correct bootlevels? |
| 20:52.35 | lbruno | I do have the community strings :) |
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| 20:52.41 | tuxcrafter | brb 5 min |
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| 20:53.40 | sylarr | tuxcrafter, yes, but now this chkconfig changed all my (SNNscript) NN numbers. And I don't know if it is good. You said you had issues |
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| 20:54.11 | Garp | Hi. |
| 20:54.13 | luchix | HOW to modify menu /SYSTEM/ABOUT UBUNTU?????? |
| 20:54.17 | sylarr | tuxcrafter, also, I don't understand how it got fixed and if this could be repeated on the other system |
| 20:54.23 | nkuttler | luchix: #ubuntu |
| 20:54.26 | greycat | luchix: ask #ubuntu |
| 20:54.29 | Garp | Question: Is there a way to get seamonkey on debian lenny/x86_64? Thanks. |
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| 20:55.57 | Lustra | Hey guys. Is it possible (and how) to lock a user to /var/www? |
| 20:56.08 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the ultimate kill (apart from reboot) - I have a stuck process -- pcman filemanager who is refusing to shut down even with kill -9 |
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| 20:56.20 | DanDare | Why Lenny cames with iceape-dev packages but not iceape itself? |
| 20:56.40 | Lin_ | hi, about initscripts, if some specifc application handle all start/stop daemon thing is against debian rules use it instead start-stop-daemon? |
| 20:56.56 | Garp | DanDare: because iceape is not available yet :( |
| 20:56.56 | greycat | jpinx-eeepc: reboot *is* the next step if kill is not working, especially if this is NFS-ish. |
| 20:57.12 | DanDare | ahh ok got it Garp, thanks |
| 20:57.18 | jpinx-eeepc | greycat: bleh :( thanks |
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| 20:58.13 | Lin_ | jpinx-eeepc: nfs processes stay on sleep status, waiting for answers from remote server, while on this state it do not handle any signal (or anything else). That is the reason for the lock up. |
| 20:58.15 | Garp | DanDare: some are able to run seamonkey binaries, I used to use it on i386, now, seems I've to rebuild it??? |
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| 20:58.24 | DanDare | Garp, it have iceweasel... sound close :) |
| 20:58.26 | Eric01 | Hello |
| 20:58.28 | greycat | I don't know whether pcman is NFS or not |
| 20:58.34 | Eric01 | I want help about debian mail system. |
| 20:58.41 | Garp | DanDare: no, iceweasel is firefox only |
| 20:58.44 | DanDare | Garp, have no idea, sorry |
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| 20:58.51 | Eric01 | My server was sending emails without any problem, suddenly stopped sending |
| 20:59.04 | Eric01 | i contacted my datacenter, they gave me new ip for resolv.conf |
| 20:59.10 | Eric01 | i added and restarted my server |
| 20:59.20 | Eric01 | still when i am using forgotpassword.php |
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| 20:59.25 | Eric01 | i am not receiving email. |
| 20:59.43 | Eric01 | can anyone please guide me what might went wrong ? |
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| 20:59.53 | stew | DanDare: lenny doens't contain iceape becuase debian is lacking the necessary volunteers to maintain it |
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| 21:00.22 | ajavid | that sucks |
| 21:00.35 | DanDare | stew, i see. I wish i could help |
| 21:00.50 | ajavid | but why do you want that bloated crapola anyway? |
| 21:01.08 | nagyon | I installed base install + sshd on a new machine and after installation a screen with nothing but "GRUB" and a blinking cursor comes up... |
| 21:01.15 | ajavid | just use individual browser iceweasel, and icedove for thunderbirding |
| 21:01.18 | nagyon | the only input that gets a reaction is CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart; i've reinstalled twice, and reconfigured grub from rescue mode -- to no avail :-( |
| 21:01.20 | jpinx-eeepc | Lin greycat thanks - i got it by unmounting all the storage devices apart from / - then it got killed and restarted - thanks |
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| 21:01.28 | DanDare | stew, Lenny is going worst (in terms of volunteers), than etch was ? |
| 21:01.29 | ajavid | what else? you need a web IDE, tahts definitely not from the iceape suite |
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| 21:01.44 | stew | DanDare: i doubt it |
| 21:01.54 | Garp | ajavid: some likes the old mozilla... |
| 21:01.56 | DanDare | ok stew |
| 21:02.02 | ajavid | DanDare, no I think no one wants to maintain iceape |
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| 21:02.11 | ajavid | DanDare, if someone wanted to, someone would. |
| 21:02.15 | designs703 | random user/group question. How can I make a group "primary" for my user? I want files created by me to be owned by user:devgroup, not user:usergroup |
| 21:02.24 | DanDare | anyway, i just needs a light brower and found iceweasel. I think it will be good |
| 21:02.42 | designs703 | DanDare, IceWeasel is Frefox |
| 21:02.52 | DanDare | it´s not good ? |
| 21:02.52 | stew | designs703: with usermod -g |
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| 21:03.08 | ajavid | DanDare, its the same, with diff branding |
| 21:03.18 | DanDare | things happens... like i discoverd i dont have xmms but have audacious |
| 21:03.35 | Garp | ajavid: sompe may want teh software, but not being able to maintain it |
| 21:03.36 | stew | DanDare: its good. its not at all light, though |
| 21:03.48 | designs703 | DanDare, Epiphany is a lighter GTK one if you're looking |
| 21:03.58 | ajavid | DanDare, like how they sell in new york electronics stores, AIWA stero system, but you said its sony in the ad, yeh, is sony 'guts'. Iceweasel is firefox in guts, and with a diff clothes ! :) |
| 21:04.19 | Garp | ajavid: dillo being the lightest graphic browser I know (but quite limited ) |
| 21:04.26 | ajavid | very limited |
| 21:04.36 | designs703 | stew, how can I check the current login group? my user has the desired group in /etc/passwd |
| 21:04.39 | DanDare | got it ajavid. Very thanks for the tip designs703, i will try |
| 21:04.42 | nkuttler | links2 is quite nice |
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| 21:05.05 | stew | designs703: id |
| 21:05.17 | ajavid | DanDare, hah, firefox with DFSG FREE clothes == iceweasel :D |
| 21:05.25 | DanDare | time to run. thanks for the nice tips |
| 21:05.30 | ajavid | bye bye |
| 21:05.32 | designs703 | stew, great, thanks |
| 21:05.55 | ajavid | Garp, I can maintain anything, I don't want to maintain iceape |
| 21:06.21 | ajavid | thats a 2nd problem, people who know how, but dont' want to, and other hand of the matter is peopel who don't knwo how to maintain but want to |
| 21:06.25 | ajavid | its a vicious cycle! |
| 21:06.34 | Garp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.41 | tuxcrafter | sylarr: try the steps again you did on the other systems and look carfully how the rc*.d directories changes with the name of the symbolic lniks |
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| 21:07.15 | Garp | ajavid: well, it's developper-centered mangement ;) |
| 21:07.25 | tuxcrafter | somebody willing to show me some examples how to resize partions from the commandline to just add a new 16MB partion to the end of the /dev/sda |
| 21:07.29 | ajavid | to me, its just too much work for something I don't like. Yes, I'm down with the volunteering for debian, but for me its also a sense of personal peace. That is why I've never adopted anything from WNPP. |
| 21:07.34 | ajavid | in 8 years... |
| 21:07.39 | ajavid | don't want to. |
| 21:08.04 | chavodelocho | Hi guys, when I try "cat /proc/mdstat" the md1 appear the status resync=PENDING |
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| 21:08.24 | tuxcrafter | chavodelocho: then wait? |
| 21:08.27 | ajavid | Garp, I did try the maryo game smc and did that for sometime, and now im doing php-gtk, you konw just stuff i like to do, hobby stuff, I don't know if I have what it takes to like fully commit to something as huge as iceape |
| 21:08.39 | tuxcrafter | until the other sync is compleet probablye md0 |
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| 21:08.52 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 21:09.38 | ajavid | Garp, and after this I'll be doing php-qt and then I dunno what.. debian-games if anything |
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| 21:10.31 | chavodelocho | tuxcrafter, I don't see any sync... I have to give a manual start in this md |
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| 21:13.00 | luchix | QUESTION: how i can change a menu entry name /SYSTEM/ABOUT DEBIAN in ABOUT....etc....??? |
| 21:13.07 | chavodelocho | tuxcrafter, I can't start the server, When I try mdadm --detail /dev/md1", the sdc1 was removed, I add and then started the md1, so after that the status was pending |
| 21:13.23 | ajavid | luchix, are you using debian? |
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| 21:13.56 | ajavid | luchix, which menu entry are you speaking of? one generated via 'menu' package in debian? or gnome/kde menu? What you just said kinda seems like that weird ubuntu offshoot |
| 21:14.26 | carrot | Hi guys, I'm looking for a way to make /etc/init.d/winbind start at system startup, any suggestions? |
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| 21:14.49 | ajavid | !rcconf |
| 21:14.50 | dpkg | from memory, rcconf is a frontend to update-rc.d, or check out <sysv-rc-conf> - see these http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 and http://blogs.cyberciti.biz/hm/index.php/2005/10/27/removing-unwanted-startup-debian-files-or-services/ and ask me about <services> |
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| 21:16.51 | chavodelocho | tuxcrafter, any suggestion? |
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| 21:17.56 | adb | carrot: tried /etc/rc.local ? |
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| 21:19.43 | carrot | adb:, ajavid i think i got it, thank you, i'm going to reboot to test it |
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| 21:20.45 | NewCastleScott | g'day all, can someone tell me where I might find testing/unstable repos? |
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| 21:21.08 | epsilon | on same server as stable |
| 21:21.16 | stew | NewCastleScott: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 21:21.19 | NewCastleScott | thanks |
| 21:21.54 | adb | NewCastleScott: still use stable |
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| 21:23.16 | havocologe | i try to get the package of a file with "dpkg -S filename". |
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| 21:23.39 | havocologe | but the package that is given by dpkg does not include the file because it is a meta package.. |
| 21:23.56 | shze | can I use hal to get powerbtn acpi events from /sys w/ 2.6.30? |
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| 21:25.39 | asg | havocologe: you may want to install 'apt-file' (it will list files in all packages whether they are installed or not) |
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| 21:25.44 | tuxcrafter | chavodelocho: did you try recreating the md0 |
| 21:25.54 | tuxcrafter | chavodelocho: be carefull check what you do |
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| 21:26.16 | tuxcrafter | chavodelocho: you should not test your md systems on a machine with imporatand data |
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| 21:26.37 | tuxcrafter | somebody that can help me with my ext2 resize commands for the commanline |
| 21:27.13 | tuxcrafter | damnm the new .30 kernel is 9 seconds slower in boot time |
| 21:27.29 | enouf | tuxcrafter: man resize2fs for starters, and what is 0xef? and i think you want /dev/sdXN, not /sdX |
| 21:27.30 | tuxcrafter | from 11 second cold boot i went to 20 seconds |
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| 21:27.57 | asterisc | tuxcrafter: what computer do you use? |
| 21:28.04 | tuxcrafter | enouf: i want a special 16MB 0xef type partiion for my eeepc 901 |
| 21:28.08 | tuxcrafter | asterisc: ^ |
| 21:28.24 | tuxcrafter | that partion i want on the end of my /dev/sda |
| 21:28.39 | tuxcrafter | end i have only one /dev/sda1 partion on this moment |
| 21:28.53 | chavodelocho | tuxcrafter, in fact the error is on md1, this is my backup server, the error appears i don't know why... I didn't try recreate the md1 |
| 21:28.53 | enouf | tuxcrafter: you want a EF EFI (FAT-12/16/32) partitionID? |
| 21:28.53 | tuxcrafter | i want to do this automated with commandline tools |
| 21:29.09 | tuxcrafter | enouf: jups |
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| 21:29.25 | enouf | tuxcrafter: does sda1 occupy all the disk? |
| 21:29.30 | paulfm | justin: found where I enable ramdisk in menuconfig - I was looking at initrd not reg rd... |
| 21:29.36 | tuxcrafter | enouf: yes |
| 21:30.06 | paulfm | justin: so do I just enable it or have it load as a module? |
| 21:30.16 | tuxcrafter | current situation ext2 /dev/sda1 wanted situation ext2 /dev/sda1 and 16MB 0xef /dev/sda2 on the end of /dev/sda |
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| 21:30.30 | enouf | tuxcrafter: then you need to shrink (the filesystem, then the partition) by your 16MB - then create a 16MB sda2 |
| 21:30.34 | tuxcrafter | all done from commandline witout lossing data |
| 21:30.58 | enouf | <enouf> tuxcrafter: man resize2fs for starters |
| 21:31.39 | tuxcrafter | enouf: ok then going to read that awfull manpage :D |
| 21:31.49 | \amethyst | or ext2online for online resizing (but you must first do ext2prepare while it is unmounted) |
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| 21:32.21 | \amethyst | oh |
| 21:32.26 | tuxcrafter | read it nothing usefull google now |
| 21:32.57 | \amethyst | ext2online can't shrink, you do have to do an offline resize |
| 21:33.05 | \amethyst | sorry |
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| 21:34.38 | zu22 | Squeeze won't let me remove package cmucl: http://zu22.pastebin.com/f2c52877 Anyway I can get this removed? Guess this is a bug. |
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| 21:35.56 | zu22 | Any ideas? |
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| 21:36.47 | zu22 | so quiet in here heh |
| 21:36.53 | asg | zu22: you can hack the package prerm script to not fail |
| 21:36.53 | LCIDFire | can someone tell me what the most elegant way to create a link to another file in a deb package ist? |
| 21:36.57 | zu22 | asg: ah |
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| 21:37.15 | stew | LCIDFire: using dh_link? |
| 21:37.16 | \amethyst | zu22: try adding || true to the end of the update-binfmts line in /var/lib/dpkg/info/cmucl.prerm |
| 21:37.19 | asg | zu22: put exit 0 near the top and clean up and junk manually |
| 21:37.39 | Lustra | Hey - I can't view this PHP page on my site, it makes me attempt to download it, could someone help me please? http://www.talksyntax.com/ (click file.php) |
| 21:37.45 | LCIDFire | stew: sounds good - let's say what google says :) |
| 21:37.51 | Lustra | o so now its working |
| 21:37.52 | Lustra | wow |
| 21:37.54 | zu22 | \amethyst: ok thx will try that |
| 21:38.12 | zu22 | asg: k |
| 21:38.14 | zu22 | thanks |
| 21:38.20 | tuxcrafter | enouf: \amethyst well the real issue is i dont know how to calculate blocksisez and all that other stuff |
| 21:38.34 | tuxcrafter | i read manpages but they dont explain how to calculate the needed values |
| 21:38.39 | \amethyst | zu22: you should file a bug, though |
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| 21:38.58 | zu22 | \amethyst: ok what is the best way to file a bug? on bugs.debian.org website? |
| 21:39.07 | tuxcrafter | i can do partitioning form the cli but i alsways use fixed sizes never done resizes |
| 21:39.07 | \amethyst | zu22: using the 'reportbug' script |
| 21:39.22 | tuxcrafter | resize2fs /dev/sda1 xxxx |
| 21:39.26 | \amethyst | zu22: it works by sending an email to the appropriate address |
| 21:39.35 | zu22 | \amethyst: ok i will google for that script, thx! |
| 21:39.38 | tuxcrafter | but what should xx be if i want the remaning space to be 16MB |
| 21:40.00 | tuxcrafter | /dev/sda1 * 0+ 489 490- 3935893+ 83 Linux |
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| 21:40.39 | asg | zu22: just aptitude install it |
| 21:40.46 | zu22 | asg: ok :) |
| 21:41.28 | \amethyst | tuxcrafter: this is a ~3.75 GB partition? |
| 21:41.45 | LCIDFire | stew: worked like a charm - thanks :) |
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| 21:42.16 | zu22 | abrotman: greets |
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| 21:43.16 | enouf | nagyon: how's it going? manipulate your (hdX) and perhaps (hdX,X) in your menu.lst ; and make sure your stanzas are correctly pointing to correct root and kernel and initrd - and finally ensure that your /etc/fstab is correct |
| 21:43.32 | abrotman | hi |
| 21:43.39 | simonrvn | IH |
| 21:43.45 | zu22 | simonrvn: hi |
| 21:44.13 | \amethyst | zu22: it's in the reportbug package |
| 21:44.15 | enouf | nagyon: or, change the disk (boot) order in the BIOS, but then you might want to use --recheck if you use grub-install, or just correct the device.map file |
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| 21:44.31 | zu22 | \amethyst: cool |
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| 21:44.37 | Lin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.46 | tuxcrafter | \amethyst: yes its a 4GB partion or something like that |
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| 21:45.02 | tuxcrafter | \amethyst: i just need to learn how to calculate and gather the needed info |
| 21:45.16 | tuxcrafter | to just create an 16MB partion on the end of /dev/sda |
| 21:45.25 | tuxcrafter | /partion/partition/ |
| 21:45.41 | \amethyst | tuxcrafter: so maybe 3919509K where that number is 3935893 (the old size in K) - 16384 (16 MiB in KiB) |
| 21:45.58 | \amethyst | tuxcrafter: resize2fs lets you specify a unit instead of using the blocksize |
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| 21:48.48 | nagyon | enouf: the filepaths are correct in menu.lst, boot order is fine (cdrom, then sata), the (hdX[,X]) are also correct in menu.lst |
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| 21:49.15 | ajavid | enouf, chat |
| 21:49.22 | nagyon | enouf: just rebooted after removing the second sata drive from device.map and still nothing but "GRUB _" |
| 21:49.31 | enouf | ajavid: i gotta run - later i will be back - few hours |
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| 21:50.02 | ajavid | word |
| 21:50.31 | ajavid | enouf, hurry up |
| 21:50.32 | enouf | nagyon: device.map is only read during installing (AFAICT) - and generated when grub tries to guess the BIOS drive order |
| 21:51.01 | enouf | nagyon: wish i could help more - but gotta go - others will help hopefully - update me ;-) |
| 21:51.36 | nagyon | enouf: thanks |
| 21:51.40 | nagyon | :) |
| 21:52.59 | nsadmin | nagyon so you get the boot prompt? |
| 21:53.10 | nsadmin | what happens if you hit tab? |
| 21:53.15 | tuxcrafter | bc "3935893 - 16384 |
| 21:53.21 | tuxcrafter | how did that bc work again :D |
| 21:53.33 | nsadmin | man bc |
| 21:53.39 | nsadmin | and see |
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| 21:55.16 | \amethyst | tuxcrafter: bc <<<"3935893 - 16384" |
| 21:55.22 | \amethyst | tuxcrafter: bc expects expressions on stdin |
| 21:55.26 | tuxcrafter | thanks |
| 21:55.36 | tuxcrafter | \amethyst: that was what i was lookign for |
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| 21:56.21 | nsadmin | echo "3935893 - 16384" | bc? |
| 21:56.26 | nagyon | nsadmin: no boot prompt; just 'GRUB' |
| 21:56.41 | nagyon | nsadmin: with a blinking cursor, but it accepts no input |
| 21:56.48 | nsadmin | where is grub installed? |
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| 21:57.55 | tuxcrafter | nsadmin: that would work to but the <<< takes less cycles |
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| 21:58.21 | nsadmin | what's <<<? |
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| 21:58.56 | nsadmin | and what program interprets that |
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| 22:01.18 | \amethyst | nsadmin: it's bash "here-string" syntax |
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| 22:01.21 | \amethyst | nsadmin: it sends the next word (or quoted string) to the process on stdin |
| 22:01.21 | nsadmin | interesting |
| 22:01.21 | \amethyst | nsadmin: so a way of doing echo "blah" | prog without forking or creating a subshell |
| 22:01.21 | nsadmin | wasn t' in bash 2? |
| 22:01.21 | \amethyst | nsadmin: added in 2.05b |
| 22:01.21 | dondelelcaro | nsadmin: it's a here string. see bash(1); or zshexpn(1); or similar. |
| 22:02.11 | \amethyst | it's also in mksh and ksh93, but not pdksh |
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| 22:12.45 | Javi-K | Hi |
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| 22:13.48 | Javi-K | I'm trying to remove usplash trough apt-get remove but it says it's not installed... but when I do dpkg -l | grep usplash y get rc libusplash and rc usplash... how do I remove them??? I've also got links in the rcX.d/ dirs.... Thanks on forehand ! |
| 22:14.31 | stew | Javi-K: the 'c' in 'rc' means they are already removed |
| 22:14.51 | \amethyst | Javi-K: that means they are in the 'config files only' state (init.d scripts are considered config files) |
| 22:15.04 | \amethyst | Javi-K: you can use apt-get purge to remove them completely |
| 22:15.07 | Javi-K | but what about dpkg -l ??? |
| 22:15.12 | Javi-K | it shows both packages... |
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| 22:15.21 | \amethyst | Javi-K: 'r' means selected to be removed, 'c' means config files only |
| 22:15.23 | stew | Javi-K: yes, it shows that they are known packages which have been removed |
| 22:15.39 | Javi-K | got it :) |
| 22:15.41 | \amethyst | Javi-K: the only packages dpkg -l doesn't show are those that have never been installed and those that have been purged |
| 22:16.03 | Javi-K | should those dirs still be there ? |
| 22:16.09 | stew | Javi-K: yes |
| 22:16.15 | nagyon | nsadmin: grub is installed on /dev/sda1 |
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| 22:16.39 | Javi-K | stew, the thing is I think usplash is overriding splashy.... :S |
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| 22:17.19 | stew | Javi-K: if you want to get rid of those conffiles you can "aptitude purge pacakge1 pacakge2" but I doubt that is actually the problem |
| 22:17.37 | Javi-K | thanks for the advice :) |
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| 22:21.40 | Lustra | how do i lock a user to /var/www? |
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| 22:24.27 | Schuenemann | can someone explain this to me? http://pastebin.ca/1470420 |
| 22:24.38 | redspike | Hi all, i have problems with my hp p600 raid controller when i write i get 80-95% iowait i have tryd to upgrade to latest firmware but the "bug" is there :/ anyone had the same problem? |
| 22:24.38 | abrotman | it's a URL |
| 22:24.53 | Schuenemann | line 2 means file/dir not fouund |
| 22:24.56 | Schuenemann | found* |
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| 22:25.28 | abrotman | Schuenemann: readlink -f /usr/bin/irb |
| 22:25.55 | Schuenemann | /usr/bin/irb1.8 |
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| 22:26.15 | abrotman | ls /usr/bin/irb* ? |
| 22:26.32 | Schuenemann | /usr/bin/irb /usr/bin/irb1.8 |
| 22:26.43 | Schuenemann | as root it works ok |
| 22:26.47 | Tramp | Schuenemann: don't use "which". Use "type" - it may be an alias/function |
| 22:27.12 | Schuenemann | irb is aliased to `/usr/bin/irb1.9' |
| 22:27.16 | Schuenemann | dam |
| 22:27.22 | Tramp | Schuenemann: there you go. |
| 22:27.41 | Schuenemann | thanks |
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| 22:27.45 | Tramp | yw |
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| 22:29.32 | nsadmin | Schuenemann so if you can't run that as root there's some permission stuff going on; if you're not familiar with file permissions, you can run info coreutils, there's a section on file permissions in there |
| 22:29.54 | Schuenemann | nsadmin, it's ok, I forgot I had that stupid alias |
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| 22:33.49 | dkr | doh, bosses want to migrate server cluster from rackspace (which will install debian for you on new servers even if not officially supported and have a debian package mirror) to peer1 (which only does rhel) :( |
| 22:34.37 | dkr | maybe I can do in-place remote upgrades to debian after they give me root to the new rhel systems. :) |
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| 22:39.23 | flami | Hi, I ran fsck -cc to check a hd that I suspect to be damaged. but where can I see how many "bad blocks" fsck actually found ? |
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| 22:40.47 | cockroach | flami: i would suggest using smart for that |
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| 22:41.57 | MrPocketz | ohhello! |
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| 22:42.18 | flami | cockroach: what program is that again ? |
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| 22:42.53 | cockroach | flami: smartctl from the smartmontools package |
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| 22:43.13 | flami | thanks |
| 22:43.14 | manslock | hello |
| 22:43.18 | cockroach | you're welcome |
| 22:43.36 | MrPocketz | Hello manslock |
| 22:43.40 | flami | oh you dont happen to know if theres a live cd with smatmontools preinstalled? |
| 22:43.49 | manslock | simple question to install debian with gnome does i just need cd1 or i need more that one cd i see like 10 cd |
| 22:44.14 | flami | only cd 1 , the rest is if you want all the packages available in debian |
| 22:44.28 | manslock | flami ok but apt can do it without right ? |
| 22:44.34 | cockroach | flami: i guess the one from http://www.sysresccd.org has it |
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| 22:44.58 | MrPocketz | So i'm going from an Ubuntu workstation (been on it for YEARS) and having about a year into administrating a CentOS server. I wanna throw something on a server that i can use mainly for DLing torrents. |
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| 22:45.07 | flami | manslock: yep apt doens tneed any cds , only internet |
| 22:45.09 | MrPocketz | thinking Debain. can i get some likes and dislikes from the more experienced? |
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| 22:45.30 | abrotman | MrPocketz: if it's just a server (and the purpose is really that simple), you should be fine |
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| 22:46.12 | MrPocketz | abrotman, It'll be on a dual Piii with 512 SDRAM mainly for downloading torrents and possibly hostng an IRC bot |
| 22:46.22 | MrPocketz | can you apt-get install everythign in debain as you can in Ubuntu? |
| 22:46.33 | abrotman | for servers, probably |
| 22:46.39 | MrPocketz | azureus? |
| 22:46.42 | abrotman | you'd have to give more specfic examples |
| 22:46.45 | MrPocketz | or utorrent? |
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| 22:46.51 | MrPocketz | or transmission ? |
| 22:46.59 | abrotman | isn't azureus a GUI app ? |
| 22:47.04 | MrPocketz | right |
| 22:47.07 | abrotman | it's a server? |
| 22:47.08 | MrPocketz | does Debain have a GUI install? |
| 22:47.09 | flami | MrPocketz: utorrent is windoews :P |
| 22:47.19 | careta | azureus is crap |
| 22:47.20 | abrotman | MrPocketz: yes, debian has a GUI install .. but it's a server .. why bother? |
| 22:47.25 | flami | rtorrent |
| 22:47.34 | MrPocketz | abrotman, normally, i'd whole heartedly agree with you |
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| 22:47.48 | abrotman | flami: transmission has a CLI portion also |
| 22:48.00 | MrPocketz | none of my *nix servers have a GUI, but i figured it'd be something to try |
| 22:48.17 | abrotman | MrPocketz: yeah, but if you're just managing torrents, sure seems like overkill |
| 22:48.29 | abrotman | tries to remember that web server interface to control torrents ... |
| 22:48.41 | abrotman | torrentflux ? |
| 22:48.44 | MrPocketz | abrotman, well one thing i wanted to do if i had the spare resources would be to setup a webcam on the server and install Cheeze |
| 22:48.56 | abrotman | MrPocketz: ewww .. no one wants to see you! :) |
| 22:49.02 | MrPocketz | lol no |
| 22:49.08 | MrPocketz | the rack is in an offsite location, and it'd be cool to RDP to it and keep an eye on how things're going. |
| 22:49.19 | abrotman | like .. watch the watchers? |
| 22:49.40 | MrPocketz | yeah, if something goes offline, see if theres someone in the room fucking with the breakers, or see if the box died, rooms on fire, ect... |
| 22:49.58 | abrotman | anyways, yes, you can have a GUI if you really want (but it's a server!!) |
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| 22:50.12 | abrotman | if it goes offline .. how are you going to access the camera? |
| 22:50.19 | MrPocketz | right right right. I guess i was just thinking of putting Ubuntu Server on it, and figured, why not just go Debain |
| 22:50.29 | MrPocketz | lol, i thought of that too. There're 5 others in the rack though. |
| 22:50.40 | MrPocketz | so if *they* go offline |
| 22:50.48 | abrotman | you can easily try it .. just grab the netinst .. and start installing the bits you want |
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| 22:51.13 | abrotman | though i'd really suggest trying to do it all without a GUI .. just for the learning :) |
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| 22:51.17 | MrPocketz | What would you say the advantages are of going Debain instead of Ubuntu? |
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| 22:51.32 | abrotman | to paraphrase my boss .. "much more solider" |
| 22:51.35 | flami | Debian iz moa 1337 |
| 22:51.38 | MrPocketz | like i said, i manage 2 CentOS servers all CLi. I just wanted the flexability |
| 22:51.42 | flami | ^^ |
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| 22:52.23 | MrPocketz | would Debian support virtualization pretty out-of-box? |
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| 22:52.32 | abrotman | MrPocketz: i've also heard that dist-upgrading an ubuntu install is pretty much impossible |
| 22:52.48 | abrotman | where as i've done it numerous times over multiple distributions with more than one machine/architecture |
| 22:52.58 | MrPocketz | dist-upgrading? |
| 22:53.09 | abrotman | exactly .. unknown to the ubuntu world :) |
| 22:53.10 | MrPocketz | as in from Centos to Ubuntu, or Ubuntu to slax? |
| 22:53.12 | abrotman | !dist-upgrade |
| 22:53.12 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; in lenny, aptitude calls dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. Also see <why not dist-upgrade> <sarge->etch> <etch->lenny> <lenny->squeeze> <full-upgrade> |
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| 22:53.21 | abrotman | oh .. that wasn't a very good example |
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| 22:53.29 | abrotman | basically changing from one version to another .. |
| 22:53.29 | flami | MrPocketz: they call it "full-upgrade" now |
| 22:53.44 | abrotman | he probably doesn't know that either |
| 22:53.49 | MrPocketz | nope |
| 22:53.58 | Manoj | MrPocketz: well, we seem to have xen kernels, kvm and qemu packages, openbox, libvirt et al |
| 22:53.59 | flami | and you said you used Ubuntu? |
| 22:54.03 | abrotman | MrPocketz: i mean going from Gusty Gumbo to Heavy Hippo .. or whatever they were called |
| 22:54.12 | abrotman | without a reinstall |
| 22:54.16 | MrPocketz | oh |
| 22:54.17 | MrPocketz | no |
| 22:54.19 | MrPocketz | its pretty painless |
| 22:54.32 | MrPocketz | going back down is impossible, and you occasionaly get a few bugs after an upgrade |
| 22:54.32 | flami | OhHHHh yes sorry, I think its all Gui there . |
| 22:54.35 | abrotman | guesses MrPocketz has good karma :) |
| 22:54.45 | MrPocketz | <-- saint :-) |
| 22:55.04 | MrPocketz | I thought you meant upgrading from like, ubuntu 8.04 to CentOS 5.2 or something |
| 22:55.05 | abrotman | MrPocketz: and you get to ask goofy questions in #debian when getting Debian support ... |
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| 22:55.30 | abrotman | you should see the ridiculous questions that themill asks sometimes .. |
| 22:55.51 | flami | Well I cant tell , since Debian is the most 1337 OS ( as I heard from trustworthy sources ) out there, I will NEVER try anything else. |
| 22:55.54 | themill | !spank abrotman |
| 22:55.54 | dpkg | bends abrotman over his knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
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| 22:56.12 | MrPocketz | I don't ask a whole lot of Qs, try to google and screw with things to fix 'em. Unless I'm just looking for a conversation like the present situation |
| 22:57.43 | abrotman | themill: ouch |
| 22:58.03 | themill | no less than you deserve! |
| 22:58.08 | abrotman | sulks |
| 22:58.21 | themill | gives abrotman some corner time |
| 22:59.42 | flami | Stop the violence ... AAAhHhHHhrARAar |
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| 23:03.37 | tetraedr | hi |
| 23:03.55 | tetraedr | is there a default sid wallpaper for 1920x1200 resolution? |
| 23:04.05 | abrotman | is there another sid wallpaper ? |
| 23:04.18 | karlpinc | I've never used an external USB drive (flash excepted). Are there driver issues and such so that I need to worry about debian support or, as I'd expect, they all just work? |
| 23:04.37 | abrotman | karlpinc: they usually just work |
| 23:04.46 | abrotman | tetraedr: http://www.debianart.org/cchost/?ccm=/media/tags/wallpaper ? |
| 23:05.00 | karlpinc | abrotman : Uh, for what value of usually? |
| 23:05.24 | karlpinc | abrotman : Or maybe the right question is: What goes wrong? |
| 23:05.34 | flami | karlpinc: I use 2 WB Mybook , never had any problems |
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| 23:05.50 | flami | erm WD |
| 23:05.55 | abrotman | karlpinc: i've never had an issue .. but i'm not going to 100% promise it will work .. how's that ? |
| 23:06.04 | karlpinc | abrotman : Good by me. |
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| 23:06.39 | flami | also all the other USB disks that were connected to my pc , never had a problem :P |
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| 23:07.57 | nvz | how do I setup a bootable usb image onto a usb mass storage device? just use dd or what? |
| 23:08.21 | jpinx-eeepc | nvz yes dd it |
| 23:08.27 | tetraedr | abrotman, can't find it there :( |
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| 23:08.44 | nvz | jpinx-eeepc: do you know of a factoid or howto? |
| 23:08.44 | abrotman | tetraedr: i was just asking if you'd looked there |
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| 23:08.58 | jpinx-eeepc | nvz: then modify grub to make it actually boot |
| 23:09.01 | tetraedr | abrotman, now I did :) but didn't find :( |
| 23:09.16 | jpinx-eeepc | nvz: debian.org has a lot of info on that |
| 23:09.18 | abrotman | tetraedr: what exactly is "sid wallpaper" ? |
| 23:09.31 | tetraedr | abrotman, one sec, I'll post it somewhere |
| 23:09.44 | abrotman | pastepic.com |
| 23:09.50 | tetraedr | imageshack |
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| 23:11.29 | AMcBain | Hi! I just installed Debian 5, and rightly changed the default password (Slicehost did the install). Now I'm trying to put a public key inside of ~/.ssh/uthorized_keys so I don't have to type my (somewhat long) password each time via PuTTY. However, that doesn't seem to work. I followed these short instructions: http://blog.psuter.ch/?p=18 ... any idea where I might have gone wrong, or where Debian might be different? |
| 23:11.56 | abrotman | !ssh keys |
| 23:11.57 | dpkg | i heard ssh keys is http://www.puddingonline.com/~dave/publications/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/ |
| 23:12.00 | teen_quiet | Hi, is it the right channel to ask about installing etch, 'cos I'm stuck at 5% at 'Choose & Install software' |
| 23:12.02 | abrotman | pretty much always the same |
| 23:12.06 | abrotman | AMcBain: what about them doesn't work ? |
| 23:12.15 | abrotman | teen_quiet: you should probably be installing lenny, why etch? |
| 23:12.43 | teen_quiet | Lenny doesn't have ardour! |
| 23:12.44 | AMcBain | well, I put my key in that file and it rejects it. I even modified the /etc/whatnot file to uncomment the line that regcognizes that file (supposedly) |
| 23:13.01 | Lustra | If I've done mount --bind on a user dir how can i remove it? |
| 23:13.34 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions ardour |
| 23:13.34 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: ardour -- squeeze: 1:2.7.1-2 sid: 1:2.8-1 |
| 23:13.37 | abrotman | teen_quiet: nope, it doesn't .. |
| 23:13.57 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: backport it from squeeze |
| 23:13.57 | abrotman | AMcBain: does it give a useful error? |
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| 23:14.18 | AMcBain | Nah, just that the server rejected the key. Your tutorial says my key should all me on one line ... |
| 23:14.21 | AMcBain | it's currently not. |
| 23:14.27 | AMcBain | Is that my mess-up? |
| 23:14.31 | abrotman | probably |
| 23:14.38 | tetraedr | abrotman, finally found it physically http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4664/moreblueorbitwallpaperw.png |
| 23:14.39 | abrotman | or at least one of them |
| 23:14.43 | teen_quiet | abrotman, I'm not on Squeeze right now, and don't remember my sources.list on it |
| 23:14.51 | abrotman | tetraedr: so you're all good ? |
| 23:15.19 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: you have lenny and then you backport the package from Squeeze |
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| 23:15.31 | CdK1 | ji * |
| 23:15.34 | abrotman | teen_quiet: no other tools you can use ? |
| 23:15.47 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell teen_quiet about backports |
| 23:15.50 | CdK1 | I have problem with ia32-libs in Debian/SID amd64 |
| 23:15.51 | tetraedr | abrotman, no, I just posted the file to imageshack (it's 1600x1200) and still digging google |
| 23:15.58 | abrotman | oh |
| 23:16.02 | CdK1 | repository up-to-date |
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| 23:16.05 | CdK1 | any idea? |
| 23:16.16 | c0m1 | AMcBain: are u connecting from linux box to linux server? |
| 23:16.28 | AMcBain | no. I'm using PuTTY |
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| 23:17.03 | c0m1 | I think PuTTY has and SFTP program. You could use that to copy the public key file over to server |
| 23:17.16 | c0m1 | that way nothing gets messed up in paste |
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| 23:17.24 | tetraedr | abrotman, found it :) |
| 23:17.36 | abrotman | okay |
| 23:18.15 | AMcBain | c0m1: well it pastes fine, it's only ASCII characters ... but that tutorial doesn't quite tell me what it wants on that one line. does it just want the alphanumeric sequence or the whole --- begin --- and --- end --- block. |
| 23:18.18 | teen_quiet | jpinx-eepc, OK! I know only a few about backports, I'll STFW. I didn't think about it, TU. |
| 23:18.41 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: np |
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| 23:19.07 | tetraedr | thanks for help people, good night |
| 23:19.31 | themill | AMcBain: the key you copy to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys doesn't have any begin and end sections; it's just a single line. |
| 23:19.37 | c0m1 | AMcBain: There is no "begin" or "end" part in my Authorized keys file |
| 23:19.45 | teen_quiet | abrotman, do you know kind of equivalent of ardour? other than GNUSound, audacity. |
| 23:19.52 | AMcBain | ! nano comes with linewrap compiled *off* by default! There is justice in this world! |
| 23:19.52 | dpkg | AMcBain: that's too long |
| 23:20.15 | AMcBain | ? |
| 23:20.16 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell teen_quiet about ardour |
| 23:20.19 | Nematocyst | I recently added a pcmcia nic and have it working. only problem is before it works, I must explicitly "ifup eth0". is there a better way, and if not, where should I put that command so that networking is up by the time apache and samba start? |
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| 23:20.45 | abrotman | Nematocyst: man interfaces |
| 23:20.55 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: there's a couple of comments you might want to explore there |
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| 23:21.50 | themill | AMcBain: dpkg is a bot and it pays attention to !. You confused it with your exclamation. |
| 23:22.07 | AMcBain | oh |
| 23:22.07 | teen_quiet | jpinx-eepc, \!tell doesn't seem to work on this channel, or is it me? |
| 23:22.20 | Nematocyst | abrotman, looks like I need to add 'eth0' to the auto line? |
| 23:22.33 | themill | teen_quiet: should do. Check your messages from a bot called "dpkg". |
| 23:22.38 | abrotman | Nematocyst: or an additional "auto eth0" line |
| 23:22.47 | AMcBain | I'm still getting "Server refused our key" |
| 23:22.49 | Nematocyst | abrotman, thx |
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| 23:23.08 | abrotman | AMcBain: how did you generate the key to be used with putty ? |
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| 23:23.19 | teen_quiet | ah, OK, I didn't notice, sorry. |
| 23:23.20 | bsulzer | hi ev'ryone. is there a possibility to restore a debian to a former 'snapshot' like in windows? |
| 23:23.34 | AMcBain | PuTTYGen |
| 23:23.39 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: do " /msg dpkg ardour " |
| 23:23.42 | abrotman | bsulzer: if you have made a backup |
| 23:23.47 | abrotman | AMcBain: just making sure |
| 23:23.55 | bsulzer | abrotman: doh! |
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| 23:25.07 | flami | Soo I got smartctl now, the best way to check if my HD is falling apart would be a smartctl -t long /dev... ? ( long self test ) |
| 23:25.19 | abrotman | /dev/ ? |
| 23:25.35 | flami | well my gess is that itll be /dev/hda1 |
| 23:25.38 | flami | or hda |
| 23:25.44 | flami | since its a hardisk test |
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| 23:29.45 | teen_quiet | by the way, what's wrong with "old" (in the case etch) install CDs? |
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| 23:30.39 | nagyon | enouf, nsadmin: problem solved after chucking the damned "firmware"-raid BS... now to find a spare raid controller than i hope i have lying around |
| 23:30.53 | AMcBain | grrr. :-7 I'll just have to give in and go for a simpler password. |
| 23:30.59 | abrotman | teen_quiet: nothing except that they won't have security support for maybe more than another 9 months |
| 23:31.06 | abrotman | AMcBain: it's really not that hard |
| 23:31.12 | flami | ah well time to try this out , bye |
| 23:31.22 | AMcBain | If it's not that hard, then why doesn't it work, even if I follow instructions? |
| 23:31.27 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: you can use them and then upgrade to lenny |
| 23:32.56 | teen_quiet | as my CD should work, am I stuck at 5%? I used to use this CD not so much.. |
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| 23:33.46 | themill | !5% error |
| 23:33.46 | dpkg | i heard 5% error is d-i stopping at 5%? Boot the installer with `linux debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true' or drop to a shell, chroot /target, kill the existing aptitude process and add the latest key, then run aptitude and install what you like. Since <etch> has been released, you should be downloading a released version of the installer from debian.org which would not have this problem. |
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| 23:35.11 | abrotman | AMcBain: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.53b/htmldoc/Chapter8.html |
| 23:35.24 | themill | AMcBain: what instructions are you following? What does your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file look like now? What are the permissions of ~/.ssh and all the files in it? |
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| 23:35.54 | teen_quiet | Debian changed keys, could it be relied on it? |
| 23:36.36 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: looks like you have old etch installer CD's |
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| 23:37.02 | AMcBain | themill: I started with this: http://blog.psuter.ch/?p=18 (as pasted earlier, and got ignored) and was directed to this: http://www.puddingonline.com/~dave/publications/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/document/html/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.4 |
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| 23:37.17 | AMcBain | both of which are different, in that one suggests authorized_keys2 for v2 |
| 23:37.18 | jpinx-eeepc | teen_quiet: it'll be easier to download the lenny installer and go straight from there |
| 23:37.30 | dva5912 | How long should it take to configure gconf2? Its been at this point in the install for the past hour |
| 23:37.42 | dva5912 | i have a 266 mhz processor and 64mb ram |
| 23:37.48 | abrotman | oh jeez .. days! |
| 23:37.58 | dva5912 | .... |
| 23:38.13 | valdyn | dva5912: dont install gnome |
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| 23:38.15 | dva5912 | Your joking right? |
| 23:38.28 | dva5912 | valdyn: i have to install something for my dad. |
| 23:38.49 | valdyn | dva5912: your dad wont benefit from you installing stuff that wont run properly |
| 23:38.57 | abrotman | dva5912: xfce might be better |
| 23:39.07 | dva5912 | i have the cd 1 is that on their? |
| 23:39.08 | abrotman | though more RAM would be better still :) |
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| 23:39.19 | valdyn | dva5912: 64MB is not ok for gnome or kde, and its certainly not going to be nice with xfce either |
| 23:39.24 | dva5912 | cant be helped. its an old pc |
| 23:39.25 | craigevil | with 64mb of ram xfce isnt going to run that well either |
| 23:39.42 | dva5912 | well what am i to do? Install DSL or something? |
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| 23:40.01 | valdyn | dva5912: we dont know what you want to do with that computer |
| 23:40.09 | sylarr | anyone knows if setting an IP alias requires also a gratutius ARP? |
| 23:40.12 | valdyn | dva5912: webbrowser graphically will not work nicely |
| 23:40.18 | dva5912 | Its only to be used for wifi internet, and email |
| 23:40.22 | Dracie | get links2 |
| 23:40.25 | Ambush | 64mb of ram? |
| 23:40.28 | themill | AMcBain: it's just ~/.ssh/authorized_keys these days. |
| 23:40.29 | Ambush | this is a troll, right? :p |
| 23:40.31 | craigevil | openbox, fluxbox with a panel would work, but even running firefox it will run like dog crap |
| 23:40.33 | dva5912 | No.. |
| 23:40.34 | Dracie | 64 mb of ram is manageable |
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| 23:40.58 | dva5912 | What if i dont do firefox? |
| 23:41.05 | Ambush | what's he gonna run, lynx? |
| 23:41.05 | dva5912 | what about opera |
| 23:41.07 | valdyn | dva5912: im not sure your dad would appreciate the only graphical browser that would run ok, links2 |
| 23:41.15 | craigevil | dva5912: you would probably be better off trying to use something like puppy |
| 23:41.16 | Dracie | dva5912: get dillo or links2 |
| 23:41.20 | valdyn | dva5912: forget about opera |
| 23:41.30 | Dracie | links2 has an X driver thingy |
| 23:41.35 | valdyn | dva5912: "modern" webpages will not run, no matter which browser |
| 23:41.42 | dva5912 | Well how would windows xp? |
| 23:41.44 | dva5912 | wait |
| 23:41.45 | dva5912 | nvm |
| 23:41.53 | valdyn | dva5912: links2 kind of cripples webpages, thats workable, but not what your dead is used to, maybe |
| 23:41.57 | dva5912 | So what do i do? |
| 23:41.58 | Ambush | hey, what size HD does this beast of a mainframe have installed in its hotswap racks? |
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| 23:42.12 | valdyn | dva5912: get a real computer |
| 23:42.21 | dva5912 | hes a truck driver and wants to get online on his "breaks" |
| 23:42.22 | valdyn | dva5912: i mean one made in the last decade |
| 23:42.26 | craigevil | dva5912: try puppy or DSL |
| 23:42.41 | dva5912 | Does DSL have wifi support? |
| 23:42.45 | Ambush | dva5912: i think my popcorn hour might have more computing power |
| 23:42.46 | Ambush | :\ |
| 23:42.50 | Ambush | wait, it does. |
| 23:42.54 | abrotman | Ambush: wrong channel ? |
| 23:42.59 | Schuenemann | try galon or epiphany |
| 23:43.08 | abrotman | Schuenemann: they're just as bad as FF/IW |
| 23:43.08 | Schuenemann | galeon* |
| 23:43.12 | valdyn | dva5912: dsl is not going to run a graphical webbrowser other than links2 either |
| 23:43.14 | Ambush | abrotman: oh shit, is this not efnet? :p |
| 23:43.18 | Schuenemann | abrotman, in memory usage? |
| 23:43.28 | abrotman | roughly .. anything gecko-based is going to eat 64MB just starting |
| 23:43.50 | dva5912 | dillo ran in my old 64mb |
| 23:44.04 | valdyn | dva5912: dillo cant display modern websites properly |
| 23:44.04 | abrotman | not gecko-based IIRC |
| 23:44.11 | abrotman | judd: versions dillo |
| 23:44.12 | valdyn | dva5912: if your dad can live with that.... |
| 23:44.12 | judd | abrotman: dillo -- etch: 0.8.5-4.1 sid: 0.8.6-3 |
| 23:44.13 | Schuenemann | ohh... 64 MB RAM |
| 23:44.15 | Ambush | dva5912: you still have that WOPR around? |
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| 23:44.27 | Schuenemann | dillo doesn't support css and javascript IIRC |
| 23:44.28 | dva5912 | ..... wopr? |
| 23:44.32 | abrotman | dva5912: ignore him |
| 23:44.45 | Ambush | comon, it was funny, you never seen wargames? |
| 23:44.48 | abrotman | dva5912: you can't put more RAM in it? some SDRAM PC100 should be cheap |
| 23:44.57 | abrotman | like .. $5 |
| 23:45.06 | valdyn | a better computer should be free |
| 23:45.20 | valdyn | companies throw alot better stuff away |
| 23:45.23 | dva5912 | abrotman, i think i may. But i dont know what type it is |
| 23:45.28 | Schuenemann | if you're buying a better one, send me the one you have |
| 23:45.35 | dva5912 | HA! |
| 23:45.39 | Schuenemann | dva5912, do a lshw |
| 23:45.45 | abrotman | dva5912: almost guarantee it's PC66 .. but PC100/133 should work |
| 23:45.52 | dva5912 | ummm... Not possible. Cant get into debian |
| 23:46.07 | Schuenemann | live cd? |
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| 23:46.18 | person | Hello |
| 23:46.21 | dva5912 | Schuenemann: cant run a live cd in 64 mb |
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| 23:46.31 | Schuenemann | you can with a lite distro |
| 23:46.36 | Schuenemann | dsl, puppy, slitaz |
| 23:46.42 | dva5912 | Schuenemann: im downloading DSL now |
| 23:46.50 | Schuenemann | oh... alright |
| 23:46.57 | Schuenemann | slitaz is smaller (29 mb) |
| 23:47.03 | person | I'm trying to install this on a netbook with a custom kernel from this chap called Tibhaut (http://thibm.free.fr/) |
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| 23:47.13 | person | How can I know which headers to get? |
| 23:47.14 | wng- | So I'm trying to setup my VGA out to my TV with xrandr, and I've gotten it to be able to show the display and change modes, but the colors are all screwed up, any idea what could cause this? |
| 23:47.32 | valdyn | person: headers of what? |
| 23:47.53 | valdyn | wng-: pal vs ntsc |
| 23:47.53 | person | The kernel I got from http://thibm.free.fr/ |
| 23:47.59 | dva5912 | wow just looked it over and its only got one ram stick ;( |
| 23:48.14 | AMcBain | okay, now I've got it asking for the passphrase. |
| 23:48.21 | valdyn | person: try aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 23:48.24 | wng- | valdyn: I'll give that a shot, thanks |
| 23:48.26 | teen_quiet | I'm on it , but have DHCP, or 'microcode'('s I don't have) trouble...I don't have on my homeNetwork |
| 23:48.30 | person | Thanks valdyn |
| 23:48.44 | Schuenemann | dva5912, where did you get that computer |
| 23:48.46 | Schuenemann | ? |
| 23:49.18 | dva5912 | Schuenemann: one of my friends gave it too me because it wouldent work for him. All that was wrong with it was that widows got wiped out |
| 23:49.23 | dva5912 | so im installing linux |
| 23:49.56 | Schuenemann | I'm looking for a comp like that |
| 23:49.57 | dva5912 | dsl booting |
| 23:50.10 | jpinx-eeepc | dva5912: you could try the live debian fro eeepc's |
| 23:50.30 | dva5912 | the netbooks run debian? i though it was their own distro |
| 23:50.37 | teen_quiet | it's a PackardBell EasyNote ALP-T19 |
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| 23:50.51 | jpinx-eeepc | dva5912: debain has a solution for eeeps |
| 23:50.55 | lolufail | nvz: isnt it alt-f7 if you're in textmode? |
| 23:51.02 | lolufail | oh lol, scroll fail |
| 23:51.11 | lolufail | bye :D |
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| 23:51.16 | dva5912 | lol up to 7 lines of ....'s loading dsl |
| 23:51.30 | dva5912 | 9 |
| 23:51.35 | jpinx-eeepc | dva5912: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC |
| 23:51.42 | dva5912 | now its loading |
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| 23:51.52 | valdyn | eeepc is a supercomputer compared to this trash |
| 23:52.00 | person | valdyn: What trash? |
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| 23:52.05 | valdyn | i dont think they stripped down debian for eeeps |
| 23:52.07 | valdyn | i dont think they stripped down debian for eeepc |
| 23:52.55 | person | valdyn: Also, didn't work - I'm using a funny kernel. |
| 23:52.55 | dva5912 | wo |
| 23:52.55 | dva5912 | dsl is not loadign |
| 23:52.55 | dva5912 | its sitting at the penguin logo |
| 23:52.59 | valdyn | person: dont use a funny kernel |
| 23:53.01 | person | valdyn: The kernel is called linux-2.6.30-one and so there were no appropriate headers for that in the repo :P |
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| 23:53.11 | teen_quiet | when I say "I'm on it" I mean _Lenny_ install. |
| 23:53.11 | beardy | No, it's not stripped down. But there's packages and things making the things special on them work. |
| 23:53.11 | Schuenemann | give it a break... you said it's an old computer |
| 23:53.15 | AMcBain | Okay, I got everything done I need now :) |
| 23:53.18 | valdyn | person: whoever gave you that kernel should offer headers |
| 23:53.18 | person | valdyn: Ah, but it's optimised for the Acer Aspire One |
| 23:53.35 | person | valdyn: Why? GPL? |
| 23:53.45 | dva5912 | Schuenemann: the debian installer was faster than this and it used the ram p |
| 23:53.47 | dva5912 | up* |
| 23:53.47 | valdyn | person: no, because a kernel without headers is useless |
| 23:53.52 | person | lol |
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| 23:54.14 | Schuenemann | dva5912, =/ ask in their channel or try a different distro? |
| 23:54.19 | Cagliostro | Can anyone help me disable swfdec in Epiphany on Lenny? |
| 23:54.35 | person | valdyn: To quote the translation, 'I use this Archlinux kernel, but it can in principle be used on any other distribution.' |
| 23:54.39 | stew | i'm finding good use for this kernel without headers :) |
| 23:54.46 | person | valdyn: I guess I'll get them from Arch somehow. |
| 23:55.19 | wng- | Valldyn, assuming VGA_1 is my output to my TV, I would use xrandr --output VGA_1 --set TV_FORMAT PAL to switch it to PAL right? |
| 23:55.34 | valdyn | wng-: i have no idea |
| 23:55.54 | valdyn | wng-: i just know a little about video, i dont know about xrandr syntax |
| 23:56.30 | person | valdyn: Oh man, I've gone nuts. It seems that a page I was reading was outdated and I actually have a binary :P |
| 23:56.35 | person | Well thanks for the help. Bye |
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| 23:57.03 | dva5912 | now its going |
| 23:57.18 | dva5912 | had to set the lowram option |
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| 23:57.38 | adb | dva5912: anyways dsl is oftopic here |
| 23:57.49 | adb | offtopic* |
| 23:58.03 | valdyn | Cagliostro: completely? or do you just want to switch to flash? |
| 23:58.40 | Cagliostro | Valdyn, I just want to switch to flash. Swfdec doesn't like some of the sites using flash I visit. |
| 23:58.54 | valdyn | Cagliostro: use the debian flash package |
| 23:59.08 | craigevil | Cagliostro: take a look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-can-i-install-flash-swf-for-lenny-732481/ |
| 23:59.16 | Manoj | for the person with the funny kernel, you should just grab the config file from the other guyt, and compile on your machine, you can then create a matching kernel image and header packages (though you may no longer need the header package) |
| 23:59.19 | valdyn | Cagliostro: i thought that would make itself default, but if it does not, use update-alternatives |
| 23:59.42 | ursadon | a makescript requires cc1plus, how to fix this? g++, gcc and cpp are installed (stable) |
| 23:59.44 | adb | Manoj: he gone already |
| 23:59.45 | valdyn | Cagliostro: the alternative you need to set is flash-mozilla.so, how to use update-alternatives is in its manpage |
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