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| 00:05.06 | malchias | I'm looking in rcconf and don't know what all I can kill for a apache/mysql/php server. I see things like: rsync, and x11-common. Those good places to start? |
| 00:05.25 | malchias | (I'm trying to use as little memory as possible if you have checklists of such things) |
| 00:06.27 | hense | Hi. I have a problem with xmodmap on lenny. I use it to load some modifications to the keycodes in my xinitrc, but recently (been a long time since the last reboot so it could have been any update in the last few months), the changed settings do not seem to take effekt for any GTK+ applications. Any hints on what could cause this? |
| 00:06.32 | hense | I haven't found anything on the BTS pages for either gtk+ nor x11-xserver-utils (where xmodmap is from) |
| 00:06.53 | adb | hense: don't double paste |
| 00:07.05 | hense | adb: why not? |
| 00:07.14 | adb | we are the same ... |
| 00:07.57 | hense | adb: not really. ~500 more people in here. And I saw noone talk over there for 5 minutes so I thought I'd try here. |
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| 00:08.20 | adb | bad practice .. |
| 00:08.47 | hense | I fail to see why that is. Also, I have no use for that meta-discussion. |
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| 00:12.35 | adb | hense: file a bug report than , that's all |
| 00:12.48 | hense | adb: so you think it's a bug? |
| 00:13.26 | adb | i don't think nothing , it's you |
| 00:13.53 | hense | erm, what? |
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| 00:16.19 | bzed | hense: keyboard layouts changed |
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| 00:16.45 | bzed | hense: also read http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
| 00:17.06 | hense | ah, thanks! |
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| 00:17.50 | bzed | hense: http://madduck.net/docs/extending-xkb/ |
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| 00:18.43 | iluminator101 | How would you find out the ip addresses of member of your network? |
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| 00:28.34 | Brune | I have disabled all the screensaving settings, power saving, dpms in debian, my monitor and my bios but yet my monitor after 15 minutes of inactivity will display no input found, which started happening after the update from lenny to testing. I use xfce and the xfce4 power manager, i have turned off all settings in there, everything is on "never" I also have dpms off via xset and xorg.conf and xscreensaver daemon is off and settings for it match for the |
| 00:28.34 | Brune | What would cause this? |
| 00:29.21 | sylarr | can I make cups use one ip out of the many I have? |
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| 00:31.46 | humbolt | how could I do this? I want a machine with an encrypted partition. After booting the partition should be unlocked but the key shall not be stored on the machine itself. |
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| 00:37.05 | Brune | What would cause this? |
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| 00:37.53 | Brune | I have disabled all the screensaving settings, power saving, dpms in debian, my monitor and my bios but yet my monitor after 15 minutes of inactivity will display no input found, which started happening after the update from lenny to testing. I use xfce and the xfce4 power manager, i have turned off all settings in there, everything is on "never" I also have dpms off via xset and xorg.conf and xscreensaver daemon is off and settings for it match for the |
| 00:37.53 | Brune | adb: ^^ |
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| 00:38.18 | at0m | Brune: we got that 10mins ago.. |
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| 00:38.57 | Brune | at0m: congrats, it wasn't even directed at you. I was making sure adb got it |
| 00:40.32 | adb | Brune: i don't understand nothing in your post , sorry , what's your native language ? |
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| 00:43.50 | Brune | adb: english... |
| 00:43.59 | Brune | adb: whats your's? |
| 00:44.08 | adb | romanian .. |
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| 00:44.25 | jogla | can i tell perl that a string is utf8? |
| 00:44.48 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.49 | Brune | adb: i actually have a romanian server admin... |
| 00:45.02 | jogla | Ohh, sorry |
| 00:45.25 | craigevil | humbolt: put the key on a usb drive |
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| 00:52.44 | malchias | any opinions on using dash in lenny instead of bash? |
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| 00:53.20 | mosno | malchias: perhaps it has been discussed on the devel mailing list? |
| 00:53.24 | snicore | good morning \o |
| 00:54.21 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.30 | craigevil | malchias: i use dash but i do not write or use many scripts |
| 00:54.49 | malchias | I really like tab complete - not sure if I want to give that up |
| 00:55.17 | phogg | so what's the difference between ash and dash? |
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| 00:55.37 | Ash-Fox | is more awesome. |
| 00:56.39 | phogg | Ash-Fox: Of course, but you're not strictly POSIX-compliant. |
| 00:57.03 | Ash-Fox | That's because I ascend beyond POSIX's abilities! |
| 00:57.40 | adb | ash : extra, extra, read all about it, ash is the NetBSD /bin/sh |
| 00:58.33 | phogg | adb: brilliantly unhelpful. bot? |
| 00:58.56 | adb | heh |
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| 01:02.26 | adb | lenny (debian 5.0.2) released! |
| 01:04.16 | malchias | thanks guys, cya later |
| 01:05.13 | project2501a | so, now komrades we begin five-year-plan towards communism, da? |
| 01:06.21 | sylarr | is there a symbol for even/uneven minutes in crontab? |
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| 01:07.17 | project2501a | sylarr: erh, start at an odd/even minute, devide with an odd/even number? |
| 01:07.26 | \amethyst | */2 or 1-59/2 |
| 01:07.26 | adb | project2501a: keep on topic , please |
| 01:07.28 | project2501a | divide, even. |
| 01:07.32 | project2501a | adb: i am |
| 01:07.37 | project2501a | lennin is released |
| 01:07.41 | project2501a | hence we're off to communism |
| 01:07.43 | sylarr | and odd? |
| 01:07.52 | \amethyst | sylarr: 1-59/2 would be odd |
| 01:08.04 | sylarr | and even */2? |
| 01:08.08 | \amethyst | yes |
| 01:08.11 | sylarr | ok |
| 01:08.20 | sylarr | it's not in the man , right? |
| 01:08.29 | \amethyst | it is, in man 5 crontab |
| 01:08.34 | project2501a | it's in the math |
| 01:08.48 | project2501a | (n+1)/2 |
| 01:08.49 | \amethyst | man crontab is about the program, man 5 crontab about the file format |
| 01:09.23 | sylarr | aha |
| 01:11.12 | project2501a | \amethyst: are you a saul williams fan? |
| 01:11.25 | project2501a | he has an album out called "amethyst rockstar" |
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| 01:23.01 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 01:23.53 | humbolt | craigevil: putting a key on an usb drive defeats the purpose. The key shall not be physically available on the device or close to the device |
| 01:24.49 | craigevil | doh you keep it with you or lock it somewhere secure |
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| 01:25.02 | humbolt | craigevil: I am more thinking about something like that: The device reports to a central server. The server establishes an ssh connection and unlocks the device. |
| 01:25.37 | humbolt | craigevil: no. My physical presence must not be required. |
| 01:25.59 | craigevil | ah ok |
| 01:26.14 | humbolt | but still, if somebody compromises the machine, ergo opens up the case and takes the drives, he shall not be able to read the disks |
| 01:26.15 | adb | humbolt: wol ? |
| 01:26.22 | humbolt | ? |
| 01:26.45 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.00 | humbolt | adb: no |
| 01:27.04 | adb | ok |
| 01:27.07 | humbolt | adb: that is not the point |
| 01:27.27 | humbolt | adb: it can be powered up by a human, just not by me. |
| 01:27.36 | humbolt | everything is as usual |
| 01:28.14 | humbolt | but nobody shall be able to get access to the data on one of the drives, when he disassembles the thing |
| 01:28.23 | humbolt | thats all |
| 01:28.48 | humbolt | so ROOT is unencrypted even, straight forward |
| 01:29.15 | humbolt | but after boot, it contacts a server and this server unlocks the drive and starts some process |
| 01:29.32 | humbolt | craigevil, adb: all clear? |
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| 01:29.52 | craigevil | humbolt: you lost me at the server part :) |
| 01:29.58 | humbolt | ok |
| 01:30.18 | humbolt | I call the box with the encrypted disk client |
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| 01:30.48 | humbolt | and then there is some central location, I call it server, which stores the key for the encrypted drive in the client |
| 01:30.49 | humbolt | ok |
| 01:30.51 | humbolt | ? |
| 01:30.54 | humbolt | now |
| 01:31.00 | humbolt | client boots u |
| 01:31.03 | humbolt | up |
| 01:31.30 | humbolt | server finds it (not so easy due to NAT). |
| 01:31.45 | humbolt | server logs onto client and unlocks the disk |
| 01:32.01 | humbolt | then starts some app which will access the data on the encrypted disk |
| 01:32.14 | humbolt | craigevil: you follow? |
| 01:33.02 | craigevil | humbolt: i meant you lost me when you mention doing it from a server, I know squat about anything having to do with servers |
| 01:33.50 | humbolt | a server is just another host |
| 01:33.53 | humbolt | does not matter |
| 01:34.10 | humbolt | Its just an SSH setup challenge |
| 01:34.16 | humbolt | I suppose |
| 01:35.00 | mamalujo | hm, having bumped into issues w compilind nouveau their way, thought to try it w debian experimental and module assistant. unfortunately, build still fails, but the error m-a gives is perhaps resolvable - make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.30-1-amd64' |
| 01:35.04 | mamalujo | fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git |
| 01:35.06 | mamalujo | CC [M] /usr/src/modules/drm-modules/linux-core/drm_auth.o |
| 01:35.09 | mamalujo | [ line 90/93 (96%), col 1/68 (1%), char 4769/4968 (95%) ] |
| 01:35.11 | mamalujo | ^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos |
| 01:35.28 | adb | mamalujo: ping |
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| 01:37.03 | mamalujo | sry, didt paste the way I expected. But basically, its expecting my /usr/src/linux.. to be a git repo? |
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| 01:37.20 | mamalujo | can I fake it? |
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| 01:37.49 | vasi | it looks like cdimage.debian.org is down....is there a mirror anywhere? |
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| 01:45.22 | adb | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ |
| 01:45.57 | adb | vasi: ^^ |
| 01:46.14 | vasi | adb: that doesn't have the daily builds :-( |
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| 01:46.50 | adb | lenny (debian 5.0.2) released! |
| 01:47.05 | vasi | the d-i page links to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ , for example |
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| 01:51.33 | vasi | found it! http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/debian-cdimages/daily-builds/ |
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| 01:55.24 | adb | vasi: yes , is up BUT has old iso ...debian-500-i386-netinst.iso 13-Feb-2009 22:54 |
| 01:55.32 | humbolt | anybody fit with TPM? |
| 01:56.44 | vasi | adb: well, i'm looking for the daily builds....but it seems like it's a bit behind with those too: [ ] debian-testing-amd64-businesscard.iso 01-Jun-2009 07:47 37M |
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| 01:57.29 | autobox | how can i install pidgin 2.5.7? |
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| 02:02.38 | craigevil | dpkg: tell autobox about ssb |
| 02:03.08 | autobox | dpkg backports |
| 02:03.09 | dpkg_ | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 02:09.16 | infinitewtf | hello, ever since tthe video options were taken out of the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command, how am i supppose to configure the video and monitor options |
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| 02:11.19 | adb | in xorg.conf ? |
| 02:11.28 | infinitewtf | yes |
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| 02:11.54 | adb | so , in xorg.conf ? |
| 02:11.56 | adb | so , in xorg.conf |
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| 02:14.23 | nike | Hi, I am installing Lenny with encrypted LVM, but it is taking hours to write my 750GB disk with random data. |
| 02:14.28 | nike | Is there a way I can skip this step? |
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| 02:16.09 | autobox | i tried adding the backports repo. but synatic says its not found. i used http://backports.org/debian/ lenny main |
| 02:16.15 | autobox | what am i doing wrong? |
| 02:17.57 | Alam_Lenny | autobox: |
| 02:17.58 | adb | autobox: here works, |
| 02:18.00 | Alam_Lenny | cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/backports.list |
| 02:18.00 | Alam_Lenny | deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 02:18.00 | Alam_Lenny | deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-fre |
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| 02:18.34 | adb | ah, sure lenny-backports |
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| 02:19.15 | Alam_Lenny | hmm, I droped a e in non-free |
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| 02:30.59 | grobe0ba | is there anybody not busy that has experience with NIS? |
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| 02:32.45 | adb | grobe0ba: keep asking |
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| 02:33.03 | grobe0ba | sounds too much like spamming to me |
| 02:33.20 | adb | me ? no |
| 02:33.33 | grobe0ba | its being a pain in the arse |
| 02:33.51 | grobe0ba | you've going to have to listen to me rant about it now |
| 02:33.51 | grobe0ba | because its annoying |
| 02:33.57 | grobe0ba | i didn't say you have to help |
| 02:34.03 | grobe0ba | but i'm going to talk about it anyways |
| 02:34.19 | grobe0ba | i have a NIS master server running on NetBSD-5.0 |
| 02:34.33 | grobe0ba | and the newest NIS client running on Debian 5.0 with latest updates and what not |
| 02:34.44 | grobe0ba | ypbind binds to it fine |
| 02:34.49 | grobe0ba | i can ypcat, and ypmatch |
| 02:34.50 | grobe0ba | all of that |
| 02:34.58 | grobe0ba | but Debian won't use it for authentication |
| 02:35.05 | grobe0ba | i have the lines in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow |
| 02:35.10 | grobe0ba | as well as /etc/group |
| 02:35.15 | grobe0ba | but its making no difference |
| 02:35.34 | grobe0ba | using NetBSD 4 and Debian 5 w/o many new update used to work |
| 02:35.44 | grobe0ba | i didn't have a net connection for a long while, and had only older stuff |
| 02:35.56 | grobe0ba | i'm not sure if its because of NetBSD 5, or because of Debian |
| 02:36.06 | grobe0ba | NIS normally takes me about 10 minutes to set up |
| 02:36.09 | grobe0ba | i've been on this for three days now |
| 02:37.57 | grobe0ba | anybody have any ideas? |
| 02:38.08 | adb | ok, an idea only : do a master (nis ) on a debian 5 machine and see what's happend with client 5. |
| 02:39.48 | grobe0ba | goes to try |
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| 02:40.43 | adb | adb: it seems that's was some issues on debian and nis last months , take a look at bts (BUG tracking system) |
| 02:40.45 | mikegriffin | i have this .deb that i want to install but it has several deps i do not have installed already, can i do this magically or do i have to manually install the deps with apt-get and then install it with dpkg? |
| 02:41.13 | adb | grobe0ba: ^^ |
| 02:42.00 | grobe0ba | (adb): thx, i will |
| 02:42.08 | adb | np |
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| 02:45.40 | adb | mikegriffin: running lenny ? and want install something from say sid ? |
| 02:46.02 | mikegriffin | something along those lines |
| 02:46.19 | mikegriffin | i guess i could toggle my repo and just install the package in question and then toggle back |
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| 02:46.43 | adb | !ssb |
| 02:46.43 | dpkg_ | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 02:46.54 | adb | mikegriffin: ^^ |
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| 02:48.04 | mikegriffin | well it seems that i have some breakage that i need to troubleshoot, this is actually an ubuntu box but those guys dont seem to know what apt is. thanks anyway |
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| 02:48.40 | adb | np |
| 02:49.39 | adb | apt-get -f update |
| 02:49.49 | mikegriffin | apt-get install -f seems to have resolved it |
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| 02:50.18 | mikegriffin | adb++ |
| 02:50.19 | adb | yes , my error |
| 02:50.20 | mikegriffin | thanks again |
| 02:50.26 | adb | yw |
| 02:50.42 | mikegriffin | now i can see if gnote is any good, i love/hate tomboy |
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| 02:51.14 | adb | mikegriffin: install/delete it ? |
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| 02:55.43 | GT1 | After a horrible experience trying to upgrade my nVidia drivers after a kernel update, I'm trying to install them "the Debian way." I've made it up to configuring X to use the drivers as explained here: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#config-manual , but to my shock, horror, and confusion, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is blank. What? |
| 02:56.47 | adb | uname -r ? |
| 02:57.09 | GT1 | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 02:57.37 | adb | !nvidia |
| 02:57.38 | dpkg_ | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (ie. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
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| 02:57.51 | GT1 | I'm in GNOME now, which is the very most confusing part. I was under the impression that I needed an /etc/xorg.conf still, at least a little bit? |
| 02:58.12 | lostson | you do run nvidia-xconfig |
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| 02:59.24 | adb | !nvidia m-a |
| 02:59.24 | dpkg_ | The short version: aptitude install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. For instructions that should work, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
| 02:59.30 | GT1 | adb: I just came from that very site, even posted a link if you didn't see. loston: I'll give that a truy, but it's failed me horribly before. |
| 02:59.52 | GT1 | I'm on Lenny, like the site says, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work anymore. |
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| 03:02.05 | adb | grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:02.32 | iluminator101 | Hi, Can someone point to the script that splits nicklist vertical in irssi? |
| 03:02.33 | exn | sorry for this question but maybe here somebody knows answer =) can ruby work with chap/mschap/mschapv2 ? can't find anything about this.. |
| 03:02.35 | GT1 | adb: Command returns nothing. |
| 03:02.42 | adb | ok |
| 03:03.05 | adb | GT1: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
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| 03:03.39 | GT1 | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GTS [10de:0400] (rev a1) |
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| 03:04.01 | adb | judd: pciid 0de:0400 |
| 03:04.03 | judd | adb: Error: I don't know what you mean by PCI Id '0de:0400'. 0000:0000 is my preferred format where both vendor Id and device Id are are in hexadecimal. |
| 03:04.29 | adb | judd: pciid 10de:0400 |
| 03:04.31 | judd | adb: [10de:0400] is 'G84 [GeForce 8600 GTS]' from 'nVidia Corporation' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:0400 |
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| 03:08.46 | adb | iluminator101: try #irssi |
| 03:08.54 | craigevil | GT1: try smxi.org its a neat script that will install the nvidia drivers for you |
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| 03:09.33 | adb | exn: try #ruby |
| 03:09.49 | GT1 | Ehhh, forget it. I'm just going ton go the Nvidia route. That's what worked last time. |
| 03:10.39 | lostson | why dont you just use the drivers in the repo's ? |
| 03:11.19 | GT1 | Getting the drivers isn't the issue. It's getting X to use the drivers that's the trouble. |
| 03:11.19 | adb | lostson: reads up |
| 03:11.44 | lostson | that means i have to move my finger to the scroll wheel |
| 03:11.47 | lostson | so no thanks |
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| 03:12.07 | adb | heh |
| 03:12.48 | GT1 | loston: I've gotten up to the point where I need to edit my xorg.conf to tell it to use my newly-compiled nvidia drivers, but my xorg.conf is _blank_. I don't even know how I'm seeing GNOME on this thing. |
| 03:13.29 | GT1 | I was under the impression that xorg.conf was little-used at this point, not unused altogether... |
| 03:13.34 | adb | GT1: i may paste my xorg.conf .. |
| 03:13.36 | craigevil | shiny xorg does it automagically or its supposed to |
| 03:13.46 | lostson | its probably using the nv driver do you have a backup of your previous xorg.conf |
| 03:13.56 | lostson | craigevil: no it wont |
| 03:14.13 | lostson | you need to use the nvidia-xconfig package or write your own |
| 03:14.27 | craigevil | no shit thats why i said supposed to, i have intel and i still have to tell it what to use |
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| 03:14.35 | lostson | lol |
| 03:15.06 | Interphase | what's cookin |
| 03:15.11 | GT1 | loston: No, I don't have a previous one. I just reinstalled Debian. |
| 03:15.20 | lostson | ouch |
| 03:15.46 | Interphase | I reinstalled Debian once |
| 03:15.59 | GT1 | I reinstalled Debian, went5 to install the nVidia drivers, and my xorg.conf file was blank. I'm horribly confused... |
| 03:16.26 | lostson | GT1: there is mine feel free to use it or rewrite it up to you |
| 03:16.29 | lostson | http://paste.debian.net/40442/ |
| 03:16.59 | adb | GT1: mine too http://paste.debian.net/40443/ |
| 03:17.45 | adb | lostson: CRC monitor ? |
| 03:17.52 | GT1 | Which Debian releases are these from? |
| 03:17.59 | lostson | mine is lenny |
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| 03:18.06 | adb | mine lenny |
| 03:18.23 | adb | GT1: CRC monitor ? |
| 03:18.50 | GT1 | adb: What? |
| 03:18.51 | adb | CRT maybe |
| 03:19.14 | GT1 | I don't have a CRT monitor... Or a CR...C... |
| 03:19.16 | adb | that type monitor have |
| 03:19.31 | adb | LCD ? |
| 03:19.36 | GT1 | Mhmm. |
| 03:19.49 | craigevil | GT1: nvidia-xconfig should write a xorg.conf for you |
| 03:20.18 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.26 | GT1 | Right, right, nvidia-xconfig. I was going to try that. Trying now. |
| 03:20.45 | lostson | you have to run it as root |
| 03:20.54 | lostson | and if you dont have it apt-get install nvidia-xconfig |
| 03:21.02 | GT1 | I know. |
| 03:21.02 | lostson | then run it again |
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| 03:21.40 | adb | lostson: CRT monitor ? |
| 03:21.50 | lostson | no lcd |
| 03:21.56 | adb | hmm |
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| 03:22.03 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.23 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:23.43 | Usama | hello, my default WM is twm but I want to run icewm from time to time, I heard of ( init `which icewm`) but I can't run it |
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| 03:32.45 | GT1 | Let it be known throughout the land that nvidia-xconfig doesn't work on Lenny. |
| 03:33.07 | adb | Usama: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager ? |
| 03:34.14 | craigevil | GT1: save yourself the headache and just use smxi, it installs the proper driver and configures xorg |
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| 03:35.52 | GT1 | craigevil: No, I'll just do it the regular nVidia way, like I did last time, and walk away from this situation scratching my head over the irony that the "Debian way" doesn't work on Debian. No scripts needed! |
| 03:35.52 | Usama | I'm just asking about the command init `which icewm` , I remember it was working like a charm no it doesn't :) |
| 03:35.55 | Usama | :( |
| 03:36.32 | GT1 | Now, what's the address for the Sid repo? I need to install the latest Pidgin so Yahoo will work. |
| 03:37.25 | craigevil | on lenny? |
| 03:37.32 | GT1 | Yeah. |
| 03:37.36 | craigevil | backport it |
| 03:37.40 | craigevil | !ssb |
| 03:37.40 | dpkg_ | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 03:38.31 | GT1 | What?How do I ask it about backports? |
| 03:38.54 | deever | when actually do .deb file names include the distro version name (like "lenny") and when not? |
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| 03:40.43 | adb | Usama: which x-window-manager |
| 03:41.02 | adb | deever: why bother ? |
| 03:41.06 | craigevil | backports only has pidgin 2.5.5 |
| 03:41.33 | adb | judd: versions pidgin |
| 03:41.34 | deever | adb: which bother? |
| 03:41.34 | judd | adb: pidgin -- lenny-volatile: 2.4.3-4lenny1~volatile0 lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny1 etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny2~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny2 lenny-backports: 2.5.5-1.1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 2.5.6-1 sid: 2.5.7-1 |
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| 03:43.09 | SXd714_TSL | exactly what is that |
| 03:43.41 | adb | deever: take an example from judd: adb: pidgin ... |
| 03:43.57 | internat | Howdy all. Im having some issues with debian on a sun netra t1. It seems udev isnt liking both network cards. Probably due to the fact that they have the same mac address.. The second card in dmesg says its named eth1, but ifconfig -a shows "eth1_rename_ren" but it wont let me do much with it.. Any ideas what would be required to fix it? |
| 03:44.50 | SXd714_TSL | configure the mac address to a two way sender |
| 03:44.58 | adb | !z25 |
| 03:44.59 | dpkg_ | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See also <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1, the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 03:45.06 | adb | internat: ^^ |
| 03:46.15 | internat | umm |
| 03:46.46 | deever | adb: but why do some of them include the version name and some others don't? |
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| 03:47.04 | SXd714_TSL | if u have a diiferent server like windows u can configure it to a split converter |
| 03:47.44 | SXd714_TSL | an ethernet converter |
| 03:47.47 | internat | hmms |
| 03:48.28 | SXd714_TSL | hmms2 |
| 03:48.39 | internat | !forcedeth mac |
| 03:48.39 | dpkg_ | If you're using the <forcedeth> driver and your network card keeps changing its name each time (eth0, then eth1, then eth2, etc), edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch), remove all but one entry, and replace the MAC address with "00:00:6c:*". See also <z25>. |
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| 03:49.51 | adb | deever: keep asking, anyway i'm away |
| 03:50.12 | internat | ok if i want to make it map based on bus_id rather then address id.. where would i get the busid? |
| 03:50.57 | SXd714_TSL | busid??? |
| 03:51.28 | internat | well both nics on this sun box, ahve the same mac address. so udev isnt playing nicely with a match based on that. So i want to make it map it on bus id |
| 03:51.36 | internat | ie pci bus location |
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| 03:52.04 | adb | SXd714_TSL: sockets ... |
| 03:52.34 | adb | no , slots |
| 03:52.52 | SXd714_TSL | ok so whats your current ideas |
| 03:53.04 | internat | ?? |
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| 03:53.58 | SXd714_TSL | ??? |
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| 04:00.37 | nvz | !test |
| 04:00.38 | dpkg_ | epic test fail |
| 04:01.34 | GT1 | I like this dpkg fella. |
| 04:02.13 | adb | !love GT1 |
| 04:02.13 | dpkg_ | makes love to GT1, caressing GT1's hair, whispering sweet nothings in GT1's ear... |
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| 04:03.49 | GT1 | You really shouldn't do that, adb. I might be an alien with a deathray aimed at your face from orbit. You never know. |
| 04:04.18 | mosno | GT1: so debian really _is_ the universal operating system? ;) |
| 04:04.22 | adb | !gamer |
| 04:04.22 | dpkg_ | i heard gamer is a guy who play creepy games, like Counter Strike and World of Warcraft |
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| 04:06.16 | GT1 | Pretty much, but it's become posh to use Ubuntu, what with all the "humanity" stuff they cram into it. |
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| 04:06.45 | Interphase | lol, have any of you guys been to #ubuntu? |
| 04:07.20 | GT1 | Mhmm. I used to use Ubuntu. I moved to Debian when I was comfortable with it. |
| 04:08.16 | GT1 | Then they got rid of xorg.conf, and now I'm confused. |
| 04:09.42 | adb | GT1: we pasted two xorg.conf , use them to do your xorg.conf |
| 04:09.59 | GT1 | Oh, right, I forgot. |
| 04:11.49 | GT1 | Though, the questions of "why" and "how" remain. Also, I'm apt-get building pidgin from Sid like dpkg's programmer said. |
| 04:12.59 | adb | take first xorg.conf , test it , than test the 2-nd |
| 04:13.44 | adb | 3-rd step mix them ... and keep testing |
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| 04:15.06 | deever | why do some packages include the distro version name (f.e. "lenny") and some others don't? |
| 04:16.27 | adb | deever: post your Q on mailing list debian-devel ... |
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| 04:20.05 | internat | is there a way to disable udev from touching anything network related? |
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| 04:22.01 | adb | !z25 |
| 04:22.01 | dpkg_ | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See also <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1, the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 04:23.35 | internat | yeah ive moved those files already out of the way |
| 04:23.44 | internat | and by move i mean delete |
| 04:25.29 | adb | /etc/init.d/udev restart |
| 04:25.47 | internat | and yet eth1 isnt appearing, and ifconfig -a still shows "eth1_rename_ren". But if i run rmmod sunhme; modprobe sunhme; they both come up as expected |
| 04:25.53 | internat | ive restarted the server since doing that |
| 04:27.12 | adb | lspci -nn | grep Net |
| 04:27.32 | internat | 1 sec, its just rebooting again |
| 04:30.06 | internat | sparky:~# lspci -nn | grep -i Net |
| 04:30.06 | internat | 01:01.1 Ethernet controller [0200]: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Happy Meal 10/100 Ethernet [hme] [108e:1001] (rev 01) |
| 04:30.06 | internat | 01:03.1 Ethernet controller [0200]: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Happy Meal 10/100 Ethernet [hme] [108e:1001] (rev 01) |
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| 04:30.22 | Rusty1 | http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/udev8.html mentions a ignore_device option, but I can'y help further |
| 04:30.59 | adb | judd: pciid 108e:1001 |
| 04:31.00 | judd | adb: [108e:1001] is 'Happy Meal 10/100 Ethernet [hme]' from 'Sun Microsystems Computer Corp.' with kernel module 'sunhme' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=108e:1001 |
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| 04:34.35 | adb | internat: paste on paste.debian.net > /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 04:35.28 | adb | and cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 04:36.52 | internat | http://paste.debian.net/40444/ |
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| 04:37.06 | internat | that file no longer exists |
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| 04:38.27 | DDevine | I am using a php version of Browscap that does automatic update of browscap.ini but when it tries to write browscap.ini it is stopped with the error: Warning: file_put_contents(/browscap.ini) [function.file-put-contents]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/devine/Projects/DDEVnet/libs/Browscap.php on line 455 |
| 04:38.44 | DDevine | I have chmodded 777 to everything but it doesn't seem to work. |
| 04:39.10 | DDevine | What should I try? |
| 04:41.00 | internat | Thoughts? its wierd |
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| 04:41.24 | asfsafd | how do I install debian? |
| 04:41.50 | adb | !install debian |
| 04:41.51 | dpkg_ | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 04:43.41 | DDevine | asfsafd: You download and burn an installation .iso and then you put it in your drive, boot from the CD and follow the installation wizard. |
| 04:43.49 | asfsafd | ok |
| 04:43.59 | DDevine | Like any other OS. |
| 04:44.07 | internat | its wierd. |
| 04:44.34 | peedyv | is there an iso with gnome and stuff install, like a custom spin? |
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| 04:45.00 | DDevine | peedyv: There is a live cd IIRC - install that and you should get what you want. |
| 04:45.03 | asfsafd | should I use a DVD or CD |
| 04:45.18 | asfsafd | I can download a CD iso or DVD iso |
| 04:45.24 | adb | !netinstall |
| 04:45.25 | dpkg_ | hmm... netinst is a small CD image which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but the connection is not required for a base install to complete. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and ask me about <check iso image>. If you use a dial-up connection, ask me about <dialup install>. See also <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>. |
| 04:45.27 | asfsafd | I have a DVD burner |
| 04:45.47 | adb | no use netinst |
| 04:46.16 | asfsafd | me? |
| 04:46.20 | adb | yes |
| 04:46.30 | adb | read up |
| 04:46.46 | peedyv | <DDevine>:Thanks |
| 04:46.48 | DDevine | asfsafd: Are you near Sydney? If so you could goto the Sydney Lug and they will burn you a CD. Else you can ask a friend. |
| 04:47.11 | asfsafd | I'm in sud |
| 04:47.12 | asfsafd | syd |
| 04:47.31 | DDevine | peedyv: Actually, I don't think there is but why not just select Gnome from the standard cd install? |
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| 04:48.45 | DDevine | asfsafd: I'm from Brisbane so I don't know when they meet, but I'm sure you could find somebody with a CD burner. Could probably do it at your place of employment if you bring your own disc :) |
| 04:48.47 | denysonique | Hi |
| 04:48.52 | peedyv | <DDevine>:I'd heard that the latest Gnome aint there in the repos and one will have to compile manually |
| 04:49.09 | denysonique | when I try to run freemind on sid, a window appears but it is frozen |
| 04:49.12 | DDevine | Well if that's what you have to do... |
| 04:49.25 | asfsafd | the DVD burner doubles as a CD burner |
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| 04:49.44 | peedyv | <DDevine>:I'm ubuntu user and planning to switch to debian |
| 04:49.59 | DDevine | asfsafd: They usually do :) |
| 04:50.48 | DDevine | peedyv: You will enjoy Debian I am sure. It really is more solid - even the unstable repos are better than Ubuntu stable. |
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| 04:51.56 | DDevine | asfsafd: If you have the internet it is even easy to do a net-install. It will only download and install what you need for your system - this way you get a nice lite system unlike Ubuntu with all its cruft. |
| 04:52.06 | DDevine | the net-install has a nice GUI these days. |
| 04:52.25 | DDevine | asfsafd: Oops that was meant for peedyv |
| 04:52.57 | mamalujo | peedyv, debian stable is generally a slow moving distro, stability takes precedance over currentness. maybe you can use backports for the newer software you need? alternatively, theres debian testing, less stable, but never much out of date |
| 04:53.06 | \amethyst | It's not in the pitfalls, but it is in the faq |
| 04:53.08 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 04:54.06 | peedyv | <DDevine>I have an unlimited internet connection. I'll choose a netinstall and lurk in to the /etc/apt/archives to get the latest packages if i need to insall at some other place. Will this plan actually work? |
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| 04:55.45 | deever | adb: well, i'll be around here asking and a bit late post to the list...;) |
| 04:55.54 | deever | thank you anyway |
| 04:56.04 | adb | yw |
| 04:56.53 | adb | deever: begin reading lists may help too |
| 04:57.45 | adb | deever: here is only for quick help or so |
| 04:58.12 | deever | ok |
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| 05:00.24 | adb | deever: http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 05:04.37 | DDevine | Also, regarding my PHP/web server question - I had a typo which was causing the error |
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| 05:05.31 | adb | heh, a typo .. as usually |
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| 05:06.00 | feristhia | Hi... want to ask about wget. How to fully download a website - including a link to its subdomain / cname structures but not other external links ? |
| 05:06.11 | zetheroo | I am trying to install xubuntu on a machine after having installed debian ... but the install fails every time at the end when its trying to install the bootloader ... how do I get rid of the debian boot loader? |
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| 05:07.52 | DDevine | zetheroo: It would seem that Xubuntu is not writing the bootloader to the right place. |
| 05:08.11 | internat | adb: any more ideas? |
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| 05:08.16 | DDevine | I believe you configure the bootloader on the last step - click Advanced and make sure the bootloader is going to the right place. |
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| 05:08.42 | zetheroo | DDevine: where should the bootloader be going? |
| 05:08.53 | asfsafd | !netinst |
| 05:08.53 | dpkg_ | [netinst] a small CD image which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but the connection is not required for a base install to complete. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and ask me about <check iso image>. If you use a dial-up connection, ask me about <dialup install>. See also <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>. |
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| 05:09.36 | zetheroo | DDevine: doesn't it overwrite the previous bootloader? |
| 05:09.36 | DDevine | zetheroo: Depends... It usually goes in either /boot or in the MBR of your first hard drive |
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| 05:09.46 | asfsafd | Ubuntu is a broken OS |
| 05:09.50 | DDevine | zetheroo: Yes it will overwrite the previous bootloader but usually it detects the other OSes. |
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| 05:10.01 | DDevine | asfsafd: So true. |
| 05:10.04 | zetheroo | DDevine: first partition -- if I only have one hdd -- right/ |
| 05:10.06 | adb | internat: try to map MAC address of eth1_rename to eth1 , google + forums |
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| 05:10.22 | deever | adb: thx |
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| 05:10.28 | asfsafd | I installed it today, and no matter how hard I tried, even in #ubuntu, I couldn't get my sound card working |
| 05:10.29 | zetheroo | asfsafd: I am getting rid of Debian because of the hassle its been |
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| 05:10.34 | asfsafd | I'm on it at the moment |
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| 05:10.39 | asfsafd | but I want to try deb |
| 05:10.43 | asfsafd | see if my sound card works |
| 05:10.45 | adb | deever: yw |
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| 05:10.54 | zetheroo | asfsafd: ha .. good luck |
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| 05:11.03 | asfsafd | zetheroo, good luck? |
| 05:11.07 | asfsafd | How do you mean? |
| 05:11.08 | zetheroo | asfsafd: are you using Ubuntu 9.04? |
| 05:11.12 | asfsafd | yup |
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| 05:11.35 | zetheroo | asfsafd: I would recommend sticking with 8.04 |
| 05:11.39 | DDevine | zetheroo: You'll come crawling back. (though admittedly Ubuntu does have better support for newer hardware). |
| 05:12.19 | adb | asfsafd: try kmuto |
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| 05:12.28 | asfsafd | So you're saying as newer Ubuntu releases come out, it supports less hardware? |
| 05:12.33 | zetheroo | DDevine: I just found Debian to be very lacking in some basic things as after a fresh install -- as opposed to Ubuntu which is pretty complete upon fresh installation |
| 05:12.39 | DDevine | zetheroo: What if asfsafd doesn't do the same things as you do? Ubuntu is fine as long as you stay in the little boxed off area. Debian works well across just about everything. |
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| 05:13.10 | craigevil | zetheroo: not everyone wants every thing including the kitchen sink installed |
| 05:13.10 | zetheroo | asfsafd: some changes in the recent releases can have a negative effect on some hardware ... i generally stick with the LTS versions |
| 05:13.38 | zetheroo | craigevil: I generally find a kitchen is incomplete without a sink! |
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| 05:14.18 | DDevine | zetheroo: "lacking basic things" depends on your opinion. I personally don't like the bloat that Ubuntu puts in by default - though if you want a full "Desktop" system right off the bat I completely understand. |
| 05:14.30 | zetheroo | DDevine: well I am glad it works so well for others ... I like Debian, its fast ... its just too much hassle compared to *buntu |
| 05:14.33 | zetheroo | for me |
| 05:14.48 | asfsafd | Hassle as in installing what you want? |
| 05:15.02 | asfsafd | Rather than it being there already? |
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| 05:15.17 | zetheroo | DDevine: ok well ... basic I was meaning a package manager ... network applet ... and wireless working out of the box .. pretty basic stuff ... |
| 05:15.36 | DDevine | zetheroo: I think you'll be back for the speed, stability and low hassle once you get more experienced perhaps :) |
| 05:15.48 | zetheroo | DDevine: you could be right .. |
| 05:15.59 | zetheroo | DDevine: although it was really not fun ... :( |
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| 05:16.14 | asfsafd | I find it poor that Ubuntu gets progressively more broken as new releases come out. |
| 05:16.16 | DDevine | zetheroo: I actually agree with you in terms of networkmanager - it should be default. |
| 05:16.31 | zetheroo | DDevine: I spent about 4 hours after install trying to get my wireless working ... |
| 05:16.38 | asfsafd | Prime example being my sound card. |
| 05:16.39 | DDevine | asfsafd: Yep- that's what drove me to Debian. |
| 05:16.48 | asfsafd | Audigy 2 Value |
| 05:16.54 | asfsafd | very common card |
| 05:16.58 | zetheroo | asfsafd: hence you should stick with LTS releases ... Hardy is steady as anything |
| 05:17.05 | DDevine | Audigy usually uses ALSA right? |
| 05:17.22 | zetheroo | asfsafd: I only use latest releases on machines i don't depend on |
| 05:17.23 | asfsafd | Long story |
| 05:17.59 | craigevil | zetheroo: ive ran sid on my desktop for the past 5 yrs , its a helluva lot more stable than *buntu |
| 05:18.12 | DDevine | Use whatever suits you. |
| 05:18.26 | craigevil | but whatever its all linux :) |
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| 05:18.49 | DDevine | Hell, use BSD if it suits you. All Open Source is fine. |
| 05:18.57 | zetheroo | craigevil: I believe you that its stable, however I don't think you could say that its more stable than say Hardy across the board ... :) |
| 05:19.04 | asfsafd | There are some that would disagree with that statement. |
| 05:19.09 | zetheroo | indeed ... opensource rocks |
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| 05:19.31 | asfsafd | GPL vs BSD licence wars. |
| 05:19.37 | zetheroo | ha |
| 05:19.41 | zetheroo | lets not go there ... |
| 05:19.55 | DDevine | asfsafd: That is just a technical thing. From a user perspective that doesn't matter. |
| 05:20.04 | craigevil | in 5 yrs i have had 2 issues an update broke sound and it was fixed the next day, the new xorg i had to tweak xorg.conf |
| 05:20.10 | asfsafd | I'll refrain from commenting. |
| 05:20.45 | zetheroo | craigevil: that IS awesome! |
| 05:21.29 | DDevine | Once I get some more skills as a developer I would like to contribute to Haiku OS. Looks very interesting. Will probably take about 2 years till I can. |
| 05:21.33 | zetheroo | look i really want to use Debian ... but I just could not be bothered to spend the 5th hour trying to get something to work that works out-of-the-box with *buntu ... |
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| 05:22.11 | zetheroo | I just installed Xubuntu 9.04 (on my X31 Thinkpad) and everything is working 100% form the forst boot |
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| 05:22.36 | zetheroo | make that the "first" boot - ha |
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| 05:24.03 | asfsafd | I want to download netinst but cdimage.debian.org t/o |
| 05:24.12 | asfsafd | don't tell me it's blocked? |
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| 05:24.29 | DDevine | zetheroo: Just don't use Kubuntu and you will keep your respect. (I'm not a KDE hater, I'm specifically a Kubuntu hater) |
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| 05:24.47 | asfsafd | Ubuntu is the lowest common denominator. |
| 05:24.47 | zetheroo | DDevine: haha .... i am totally with you there ... |
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| 05:25.02 | asfsafd | If you get my semantic. |
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| 05:25.04 | zetheroo | DDevine: I had it with Kubuntu ... arrrgh |
| 05:25.13 | adb | zetheroo: that's from ubuntu politics , they distribute non-free package as firmware and so , debian no |
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| 05:25.42 | zetheroo | adb: yeah I know -- but its still better -- for me :) |
| 05:25.48 | asfsafd | cdimage.debian.org times out for me |
| 05:25.52 | asfsafd | is it down? |
| 05:25.56 | asfsafd | can someone confirm this? |
| 05:25.57 | adb | yes |
| 05:26.01 | asfsafd | Oh. |
| 05:26.16 | adb | new lenny release to come 5.0.2 |
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| 05:26.29 | zetheroo | adb: I tried to load the firware and all into Debian and almost got it working .... was online etc ... (on the 4th hour) and then i rebooted -- BAM .... nothing! |
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| 05:26.45 | asfsafd | adb, Netinst hasn't been updated but the images have? |
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| 05:26.47 | Flexa | hi guys |
| 05:26.49 | Flexa | I have a stable wifi lenny that this gets installed but not the ip for cable runs that can be? |
| 05:26.53 | asfsafd | I mean the whole disk isos? |
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| 05:27.20 | adb | asfsafd: i'm afraid not YET |
| 05:27.36 | asfsafd | either? |
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| 05:27.51 | basilikum | asfsafd: try using a mirror... |
| 05:27.58 | adb | asfsafd: try a bit later |
| 05:28.13 | adb | some hours |
| 05:28.26 | Flexa | . |
| 05:28.27 | basilikum | asfsafd: e.g. http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-netinst.iso still works (or choose a closer country, if not in europe) |
| 05:28.34 | asfsafd | 5.0.1 is the latest release? |
| 05:28.50 | asfsafd | <adb> new lenny release to come 5.0.2 |
| 05:28.51 | adb | basilikum: 07:22:42] <adb> new lenny release to come 5.0.2 |
| 05:29.04 | internat | how do i force-reinstall a package? |
| 05:29.12 | asfsafd | When does 5.0.2 come out? |
| 05:29.19 | Flexa | I have a stable wifi lenny that this gets installed |
| 05:29.20 | adb | to day |
| 05:29.28 | Flexa | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.32 | basilikum | adb: who cares, you just aptitude safe-upgrade after installation anyway... better than not installing at all |
| 05:29.41 | asfsafd | I'll just wait for 5.0.2 to come out. |
| 05:30.13 | adb | basilikum: upgrade is easier .. |
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| 05:30.34 | Flexa | I have installed the compat-wireless old |
| 05:30.48 | basilikum | adb: upgrade is obsolete, replaced by safe-upgrade (man aptitude) |
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| 05:31.27 | adb | basilikum: mine " upgrade" was a shortcut ... |
| 05:31.32 | Flexa | |
| 05:31.33 | Flexa | I think the wireless network but do not gain the ip for it |
| 05:31.47 | basilikum | adb: heh |
| 05:31.58 | Flexa | that can be? |
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| 05:34.21 | adb | Flexa: restart router ? fix net cable |
| 05:35.24 | Flexa | the router and not on another pc it works |
| 05:35.39 | adb | fix dhcp , restart interfaces |
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| 05:36.01 | Flexa | I have done many tests changed the keys of authentication and everything |
| 05:36.25 | adb | install wicd , wifi-radar |
| 05:36.54 | Flexa | is the stable debian lenny with 2.6.26-2amd64 |
| 05:37.00 | adb | firmware is correct |
| 05:37.02 | adb | ? |
| 05:37.04 | Flexa | i have a wifi-radar |
| 05:37.31 | Flexa | firmware of the router? yes |
| 05:37.34 | adb | lspci -nn | grep Net |
| 05:37.41 | adb | lspci -nn | grep -i Net |
| 05:37.58 | adb | no firmware of wifi |
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| 05:38.16 | adb | !firmware |
| 05:38.16 | dpkg_ | Firmware (sometimes termed "microcode") is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel modules require firmware to be provided from userspace, prior to device operation, notably for <WiFi> devices. Ask me about <listkeys firmware> and <search> my factoids. Some non-free firmware is available via Debian packages. See also http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware and <installer firmware>. |
| 05:38.26 | adb | !wifi |
| 05:38.27 | dpkg_ | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 05:38.50 | Flexa | i uderstend |
| 05:38.54 | Flexa | lspci -nn | grep -i Net |
| 05:39.03 | Flexa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:39.20 | adb | judd: pciid 168c:001c |
| 05:39.22 | judd | adb: [168c:001c] is 'AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:001c |
| 05:39.22 | Flexa | i have the compat-wireless |
| 05:39.33 | adb | !ath5k |
| 05:39.33 | dpkg_ | [ath5k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 5xxx PCI wireless LAN chipsets. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information and supported devices. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.24. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. For 802.11n device support, ask me about <ath9k>. See also <wireless tree>. |
| 05:40.09 | Flexa | install the driver ath5k ??? |
| 05:40.17 | Flexa | it is?? |
| 05:41.25 | Flexa | you must install this driver? |
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| 05:41.26 | adb | lsmod | grep ath5k |
| 05:41.26 | Flexa | I need to install this driver? |
| 05:41.26 | Flexa | ok ok |
| 05:41.46 | Flexa | ath5k 97792 0 |
| 05:41.46 | Flexa | mac80211 167728 1 ath5k |
| 05:41.47 | Flexa | led_class 8968 1 ath5k |
| 05:41.47 | Flexa | cfg80211 32144 2 ath5k,mac80211 |
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| 05:42.32 | Flexa_ | ops |
| 05:42.37 | Flexa_ | sorry |
| 05:42.46 | adb | use paste |
| 05:42.51 | Flexa_ | ok ok |
| 05:43.00 | adb | seems ath5k is loaded |
| 05:43.29 | Flexa_ | ok ok |
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| 05:44.06 | adb | use wicd and try to connect/attach to AP |
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| 05:44.35 | adb | go away |
| 05:45.24 | Flexa_ | and see if it is loaded modprobe? |
| 05:45.38 | Flexa_ | modprobe ath5k? |
| 05:46.09 | adb | yes |
| 05:46.38 | Flexa_ | ath5k is listed in lsmod |
| 05:46.45 | basilikum | gnucash can't automatically update stock prices for me (it worked some time ago), although echo '(yahoo "CSCO")' | gnc-fq-helper can get the prices... |
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| 05:48.03 | iluminator101 | hi my /home is not mounting....i am not sure if i did something |
| 05:48.12 | oznt | hi, I just encountered a weired bug after upgrading my kernel, the post installation process doesn't recognize all my OS's correctly. Should I report this bug against grub or the linux-image packages ? thanks |
| 05:48.13 | iluminator101 | but as far as i can see everything is there |
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| 05:48.33 | adb | basilikum: missing activate some java in browser ? |
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| 05:48.54 | iluminator101 | my home folder is not loading |
| 05:49.20 | adb | df -h , say ? |
| 05:49.43 | basilikum | adb: why? gnucash doesn't need the browser, it uses Finance::Quote from CPAN... and the helper works |
| 05:49.59 | Flexa_ | the DRIC loaded this what happens is that not the wins ip network |
| 05:50.05 | basilikum | adb: never had java installed, it used to work |
| 05:50.13 | adb | basilikum: ok , my mistake than |
| 05:50.33 | Flexa_ | the driver is loaded that happens is that not the wins ip network |
| 05:51.04 | basilikum | adb: it breaks every now and then... i'll try my luck in #gnucash - thanks |
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| 05:51.41 | adb | basilikum: mieux |
| 05:53.28 | basilikum | adb: merci :) |
| 05:54.01 | adb | avec plaisir |
| 05:54.02 | iluminator101 | http://pastebin.com/d1a47830f |
| 05:54.20 | Flexa_ | I think the wifi network signal the driver |
| 05:54.29 | Flexa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.46 | Flexa_ | i m no uderstend |
| 05:54.50 | Flexa_ | :( |
| 05:55.23 | adb | iluminator101: you run puppy ? |
| 05:55.37 | Flexa_ | before placing the compat wireless signal was not strong |
| 05:55.51 | iluminator101 | yes |
| 05:56.07 | adb | iluminator101: so ask #puppy |
| 05:56.16 | Flexa_ | After installing the compat-wireless was strong and can be found |
| 05:56.33 | iluminator101 | i am on debian this is for rescue |
| 05:56.38 | Flexa_ | the router next to it here |
| 05:57.21 | adb | iluminator101: ok |
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| 05:58.00 | jungleboy | how to uninstal mysql? |
| 05:58.16 | jungleboy | apt-get remove mysql-client, server does nothing |
| 05:58.45 | adb | use search to find exact package name |
| 05:58.51 | adb | !search |
| 05:58.52 | dpkg_ | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
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| 05:59.19 | Flexa_ | you must install a new kernel that the 2.6.22-2amd64? |
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| 05:59.36 | adb | iluminator101: why debian don't boot ? |
| 05:59.48 | iluminator101 | it boots but home does not mount |
| 05:59.50 | rohan | if i use the kmuto image to install lenny, will it also use kernel 2.6.30 in my installed system? or just for the installer itself? |
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| 06:00.14 | adb | iluminator101: after upgrade ? |
| 06:00.15 | iluminator101 | i dont know what happend...i reboot and it said home not available |
| 06:00.17 | rohan | i'm talking about these images - http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
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| 06:00.34 | adb | rohan: 2.6.28 |
| 06:00.57 | rohan | adb: a newer image with 2.6.30 has been released by kmuto, even that uses 2.6.28 for the installed system? |
| 06:01.08 | iluminator101 | home is still here its not mounting |
| 06:01.17 | Skapare | I did package updates with aptitude just a few minutes ago, but with so many error messages, I can't tell if the critical parts of the updates were completed (I've been having trouble getting one package to finish updating) ... to critical updates would be kernel, modules, and initramfs ... any way to tell if they are updated per Debian expectations before I reboot? |
| 06:01.27 | adb | iluminator101: home not available , means it boot but w/o /home |
| 06:01.50 | rohan | Skapare: just do "apt-get -f install" as root |
| 06:02.00 | iluminator101 | i tried to mount it |
| 06:02.02 | Skapare | what does that do? |
| 06:02.13 | adb | rohan: i didn't know that |
| 06:02.39 | adb | iluminator101: and ? |
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| 06:03.08 | XCH | olle |
| 06:03.10 | adb | Skapare: FIX the apt-get |
| 06:03.13 | XCH | babys |
| 06:03.20 | iluminator101 | its mounts...but it did not have my home directory.... |
| 06:03.29 | Skapare | adb: it didn't run long enough to have accessed everything to check things |
| 06:04.03 | adb | iluminator101: how tried to mount /home ? |
| 06:04.11 | rohan | is dpkg (the bot in this channel) down? i am getting no replies from it |
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| 06:04.25 | iluminator101 | mount /mnt/sda5 |
| 06:04.26 | Skapare | adb: one package is half in one version and half in another version ... it didn't detect that (the db apparently thinks the upgrade worked) |
| 06:04.28 | adb | !hi |
| 06:04.28 | dpkg_ | hello, adb |
| 06:04.49 | rohan | ah, what happened to dpkg ? why two bots? |
| 06:04.50 | Flexa_ | which writes |
| 06:04.51 | iluminator101 | !hi adb |
| 06:04.51 | Flexa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.05 | rohan | Skapare: it'd help if you told us what error messages you got, and what were you trying to do. |
| 06:05.09 | Skapare | adb: I guess I should not have selected the security updates just yet |
| 06:05.11 | adb | Skapare: use aptitude instead apt-get |
| 06:05.25 | Skapare | adb: I originally used aptitude |
| 06:05.28 | iluminator101 | well i need to get my home back |
| 06:05.33 | iluminator101 | it has everything |
| 06:05.44 | adb | iluminator101: how tried to mount /home ? |
| 06:05.50 | Skapare | rohan: I tried to fix a broken package, and foolishly selected to update security updates for other packages |
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| 06:05.54 | adb | the command i meant |
| 06:06.05 | iluminator101 | yes...but it does have my user |
| 06:06.17 | Flexa_ | guys what is written |
| 06:06.17 | Flexa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.21 | Skapare | rohan: messages are in here ... http://phil.ipal.org/ampere-updates.txt |
| 06:06.26 | iluminator101 | so i create a user but thats an empy user with same username...i dont know y i did that |
| 06:06.36 | adb | iluminator101: how tried to mount /home ? |
| 06:06.40 | adb | the command i meant |
| 06:06.48 | iluminator101 | mount |
| 06:06.57 | rohan | Skapare: that's fine, none of the messages are harmful as such. |
| 06:07.12 | adb | iluminator101: mount what ? |
| 06:07.13 | rohan | you just need to set up your locale properly |
| 06:07.17 | iluminator101 | so should rm userdir i created |
| 06:07.23 | iluminator101 | mount /mnt/sda5 |
| 06:07.30 | adb | where ? |
| 06:07.32 | rohan | !locale @ Skapare |
| 06:07.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | have mercy with the homeless |
| 06:07.54 | rohan | !locale > Skapare |
| 06:07.54 | Skapare | rohan: big question ... safe to reboot? ... this is a remote server and I have no console access if it fails to boot |
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| 06:08.15 | rohan | Skapare: do "apt-get -f install", if there are no errors reported by it, it's safe to reboot |
| 06:08.25 | iluminator101 | adb: should i remove userdir i created at /home |
| 06:08.51 | adb | CutMeOwnThroat: can you help iluminator101 , i'm asleep thanks |
| 06:08.59 | Skapare | rohan: did that when first instructed here, and no errors from that ... but it exited instantly, so it didn't check files |
| 06:09.02 | adb | iluminator101: remove nothing |
| 06:09.19 | rohan | !locale |
| 06:09.19 | dpkg_ | [locale] set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 06:09.20 | Skapare | rohan: is there a command to actually check the files to see if everything is right? |
| 06:09.20 | iluminator101 | is the disk going bad |
| 06:09.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't understand him |
| 06:09.29 | rohan | Skapare: follow what dpkg_ said for locale |
| 06:09.31 | adb | better |
| 06:10.32 | adb | his /home don't mount at boot , now is in live rescue mode |
| 06:10.40 | adb | CutMeOwnThroat: ^^ |
| 06:10.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | right |
| 06:10.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I didn't understand the other stuff :) about a user and removing things |
| 06:11.00 | Skapare | rohan: I'm going to defer the locale issue ... it was considered "harmless" when I tried to get help on that earlier, but nothing worked to fix it before I ran out of time then ... rebooting is my big issue right now because my DNS server is hosed |
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| 06:11.27 | rohan | Skapare: ok, locale is not a critical issue anyway. go ahead and reboot, i'd say |
| 06:11.33 | adb | CutMeOwnThroat: his non sense , ignore it |
| 06:13.35 | adb | CutMeOwnThroat: try to find why his /home is not mounted at boot .. |
| 06:13.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | well a) if home doesn't get mounted doesn't prevent you from booting, so there is no need for a rescue disk |
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| 06:14.11 | adb | right |
| 06:14.18 | Skapare | rohan: OK, rebooting now |
| 06:14.21 | iluminator101 | i am going to sleep i will figure it out tomorrow i will talk to you guys tomorrow |
| 06:14.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | b) demesg should tell if the computer sees the disk at all |
| 06:14.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | c) sounds like running fdisk might be a good idea |
| 06:14.58 | Skapare | hates those long 90 second waits from remote |
| 06:15.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | and d) |
| 06:15.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | d) he's gorn |
| 06:15.20 | adb | right !! |
| 06:15.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !next |
| 06:15.29 | dpkg_ | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 06:15.51 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | taste of chicago! |
| 06:16.17 | adb | heh |
| 06:16.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | yay, watching americans eat |
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| 06:16.41 | Skapare | hmmm ... 103 seconds to come back up this time ... slower kernel? |
| 06:16.51 | Flexa_ | adb |
| 06:16.51 | Flexa_ | I can not get the key to the wireless network here is that |
| 06:17.04 | Flexa_ | that can be?? |
| 06:17.30 | adb | good start , waves ? |
| 06:17.50 | Flexa_ | no uderstend |
| 06:17.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | ditto |
| 06:17.59 | Skapare | rohan: OK, it's working |
| 06:18.07 | Flexa_ | good start? |
| 06:18.14 | Flexa_ | sorry |
| 06:18.24 | rohan | Skapare: great :) |
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| 06:19.14 | adb | Flexa_: sorry , to late for me , try other help |
| 06:19.29 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.33 | Flexa_ | okok |
| 06:19.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | adb good morning! |
| 06:19.55 | Skapare | I wonder if anyone has an idea on this issue: kernel freezes up at random times for varying lengths of time, sometimes a few seconds, rarely a few minutes ... NO processes run during freeze but pings DO answer ... it always eventually wakes back up ... longest ever seen was 12 minute freeze ... turning OFF ACPI power management in BIOS fixes it ... any idea what this is? |
| 06:20.25 | adb | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks ;) |
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| 06:20.42 | Skapare | is it just that ACPI is the worst thing to every hit PCs since Microsoft? |
| 06:21.08 | tabris_ | given that ACPI was an Intel initiative... |
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| 06:22.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg_, test |
| 06:22.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | aw |
| 06:22.24 | Skapare | I have heard that specific companies, like HP, have horribly bad ACPI setups ... in fact I've run across HP machines that won't even start a Linux kernel at all unless ACPI is off ... and this server is an HP AMD based machine |
| 06:22.59 | Skapare | from what I read about ACPI, a "cleanly designed" computer architecture has no need for that sort of thing |
| 06:23.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps using sysrq keycodes helps you to find out? |
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| 06:24.52 | Skapare | another latent (e.g. never got an answer earlier) question ... what option to get the tar command to backup sockets and pipes? |
| 06:25.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | isn't it doing that by default?s |
| 06:25.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's surely not trying to read from them... |
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| 06:27.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, no it's ignoring them |
| 06:27.25 | Skapare | named sockets/pipes in filesystem ... just back up the fact that there is a socket/pipe there so they can be restored |
| 06:27.54 | Skapare | right, it says it ignores them ... I want to get it to not ignore them |
| 06:28.05 | Skapare | on my Slackware machine, it backs them up by default |
| 06:28.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | cpio?s |
| 06:28.14 | Skapare | no tar |
| 06:28.27 | Skapare | it's tar that has the issue |
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| 06:30.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean "use cpio"? |
| 06:30.14 | cahoot | socket files are created for maintaining the info inside the kernel. They will be created and destroyed on appropriate socket system calls. No need to back them up. Even if you can do, it wont be useful. -that's not true? |
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| 06:30.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, dunno |
| 06:31.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | what about named pipes |
| 06:32.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | those should be tarred - they're pretty much the same as block devices which are |
| 06:32.09 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: that would be the long hard solution ... changing everything over to a new format ... isn't there some option to just do it? It works fine on Slackware ... maybe I could try to put Slackware's tar on Debian? Or maybe there's separate package for it? |
| 06:33.39 | Skapare | cahoot: the permissions still need to be saved somewhere ... if you destroy them and let applications create them, permissions go back to default |
| 06:34.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's a task for umask |
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| 06:35.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | wouldn't it create a problem if you have a directory entry for the socket when it should be created? |
| 06:35.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | s/have/already have/ |
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| 06:36.14 | krfkeith | anyone know of easy MIDI playback software? |
| 06:36.50 | krfkeith | I've downloaded several .mid files off the internet, I tried using KMid, but it doesn't recognize them as a MIDI files |
| 06:37.14 | ArtVandalae | krfkeith, what version of Debian are you on? I know that gstreamer recently (I think something like 6 months ago), got MIDI playback integrated into it |
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| 06:38.05 | krfkeith | Squeeze |
| 06:38.22 | krfkeith | I believe the kernel is 2.6.24 |
| 06:38.31 | krfkeith | may be wrong on that though |
| 06:38.51 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: you'd have a same problem if there was a directory entry for a file, too |
| 06:40.02 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: the tar archive records permissions of everything ... so when you restore, you have the same names and permissions as before |
| 06:40.15 | cahoot | krfkeith: I notice there's an app called playmidi - try that? |
| 06:40.34 | Skapare | restoring a socket/pipe means you get the same names and the same permissions and don't have to manually change it later |
| 06:41.12 | ArtVandalae | krfkeith, This is the notice, it refers to Ubuntu -- I'm just trying to find out what gstreamer version it is: http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/gstreamer-plugins-bad-now-offers-midi-plugin/ |
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| 06:41.30 | ArtVandalae | krfkeith, try aptitude install gstreamer-plugins-bad (or whatever it may be) |
| 06:41.34 | cahoot | Skapare: so when you restored a tarred backup i slack - all worked as expected? |
| 06:41.35 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: cpio does the same thing ... just a different format I'm not set up for |
| 06:41.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | --old-archive perhaps? |
| 06:41.48 | Skapare | cahoot: always has, yeah |
| 06:41.55 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: I tried all the formats |
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| 06:42.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, then I guess there is no option |
| 06:42.48 | Skapare | so Debian uses a different tar than Slackware? |
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| 06:43.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | tar --version and/or dpkg -l tar |
| 06:44.37 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: debian has a newer version of GNU tar ... so maybe GNU broke it |
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| 06:45.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg_, you there |
| 06:45.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | grmp |
| 06:45.51 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: just wondered if debian people knew how to get around the issue |
| 06:46.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | Skapare, you can always try an older version if you think that's it |
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| 06:46.49 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: apparently it is a GNU and/or version issue |
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| 06:47.33 | Skapare | CutMeOwnThroat: I was wondering if they had an option to make it work ... I figure if debian adopted the new version then debian people may have run into the issue and discovered a workaround |
| 06:47.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually... do the permissions on a socket matter at all?s |
| 06:48.10 | Skapare | yes |
| 06:48.32 | Skapare | decides who can open it |
| 06:48.42 | Skapare | permissions and ownership |
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| 06:54.57 | |niko| | Is there a place I can get linux-libre .debs for amd64? |
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| 06:57.52 | basilikum | how are updates of perl modules (from CPAN) handled in debian? |
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| 06:58.28 | Brune | by default whats the password encryption type for user passwords on debian testing |
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| 06:59.22 | basilikum | adb: about the gnucash problem: a newer Finance::Quote was required, one must run gnc-fq-update as root and it will get it from CPAN (currency update still won't work, but NYSE stuff yes) |
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| 07:03.33 | EmleyMoor | A lot of updates this morning! |
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| 07:04.33 | Brune | by default whats the password encryption type for user passwords on debian testing? |
| 07:05.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | basilikum, some perl modules are packaged as .debs |
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| 07:06.03 | EmleyMoor | There is a way to package others as .debs too |
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| 07:06.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I think the perl -MCPAN -e shell stuff just goes to some other place than the things from the packages |
| 07:07.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | and so they normally don't conflict |
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| 07:07.26 | basilikum | CutMeOwnThroat: i know, libfinance-quote-perl is one of them... i was curious how isit done in debian if you need a newer package |
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| 07:07.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | just like any other package |
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| 07:08.15 | mischief | anyone play flightgear? |
| 07:08.21 | basilikum | CutMeOwnThroat: freebsd automatically generates its own packages from CPAN, so you can then manage and search using the package manager... debian seems not to do debs, though |
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| 07:09.18 | basilikum | CutMeOwnThroat: so i need to use the cpan shell, not aptitude, to remove or upgrade such new modules, right? |
| 07:09.23 | rhys | woot. Non breakage now. Quassel...wth |
| 07:10.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | basilikum, no, that's a debian package... it upgrades like everything else |
| 07:11.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | basilikum, I actually think this is one of the few cases where you can just mix in a package from testing/unstable without problems |
| 07:11.17 | EmleyMoor | is rebooting due to a new kernel - back soon |
| 07:11.30 | basilikum | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, but now i have F::Q 1.16 from CPAN, while debian's 1.13, still installed, isn't used by perl anymore |
| 07:11.48 | rhys | so. I know this is a bad(tm) idea, and I know all the risks etc, but does anyone know how to allow an ssh user to login with a NULL password? |
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| 07:12.37 | rhys | I've set pam_unix.so in /etc/pam.d/common-passwd, adding "nullok" and set /etc/ssh/sshd_config "AllowEmptyPasswords Yes" |
| 07:12.40 | basilikum | CutMeOwnThroat: dang, now you tell me... :) no easy way to clean everything now, right? cpan got lots of stuff |
| 07:12.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | create a passwordless account and edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config?s |
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| 07:13.21 | rhys | CutMeOwnThroat: done that. Still doesn't work |
| 07:13.33 | daishadar | is there a package that i can install which will automatically update my timezone based on my ip? |
| 07:13.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | basilikum, well, I thought you answered your own question... if the debian stuff is ignored, you placed yourself in the hands of perls internal system |
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| 07:13.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | rhys, restart ssh?s |
| 07:14.18 | basilikum | CutMeOwnThroat: aaaargh... noooooooo |
| 07:14.28 | rhys | did that as well. Though, I just noticed it denys me regardless of password.. |
| 07:14.31 | rhys | more investiagting |
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| 07:14.57 | rexwin | is there a live chat solution OSS for php sites |
| 07:15.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | rhys, is it really passwordless? can you login from gdm/console?s |
| 07:15.01 | rexwin | ? |
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| 07:16.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg_, test |
| 07:16.07 | rhys | CutMeOwnThroat: I apparently have borked it all. |
| 07:16.21 | rhys | I can't log in ANY user now. cept root. |
| 07:16.24 | rhys | what did i do... |
| 07:16.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks at his hands |
| 07:16.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks at his feet |
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| 07:16.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | notices no holes in the hands, no moss at the feet |
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| 07:17.13 | mimiloon | hi everybody, can anyone help me please? i visited a few website and it's saying that i need java runtime environment installed so i installed the package sun-java6-jre and it's still asking me to install java runtime environmen |
| 07:17.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | thinks, not being Jesus, he really can't know |
| 07:17.40 | EmleyMoor | mimiloon: You may need the plugin package too |
| 07:17.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | mimiloon, you need the firefox plugin |
| 07:18.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think the one from debian-multimedia still works best? |
| 07:18.37 | EmleyMoor | mimiloon: I will find out where wine came from if it helps |
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| 07:18.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | mimiloon, apt-get install sun-java6-plugin |
| 07:18.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess |
| 07:19.00 | rhys | CutMeOwnThroat: i appreciate the attempt at omnipotentce, but will note that your method of being Jesus to be omnipotent is a very flawed one. Try If(this == Carl.Sagon) { enable.omnipotentce()}; |
| 07:19.14 | rhys | and you could always spell his name right too |
| 07:19.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I was apparently wrong with dmm |
| 07:19.30 | mimiloon | EmleyMoor and CutMeOwnThroat: what plugin? |
| 07:19.46 | EmleyMoor | sun-java6-plugin (or similar) |
| 07:19.59 | mimiloon | CutMeOwnThroat: i'll try that |
| 07:20.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | I already answered that! |
| 07:20.07 | rhys | icetea |
| 07:20.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | how did you create a passwordless user?s |
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| 07:21.23 | rhys | CutMeOwnThroat: usermod -p "" username ? |
| 07:21.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | creative |
| 07:21.42 | enouf | i say man passwd |
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| 07:23.07 | mimiloon | CutMeOwnThroat and EmleyMoor: thanks for all your help |
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| 07:24.54 | enouf | seen /etc/default/useradd ? |
| 07:25.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't say man password |
| 07:25.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I say good night |
| 07:26.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg_, try to shape up! |
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| 07:26.11 | mischief | why the hell isn't lxsession edit included with the lxde packages :\ |
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| 07:26.49 | rhys | enouf: passwd -d user will blank a password.. but i still cant get it to login |
| 07:26.59 | enouf | probably bug ridden |
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| 07:28.06 | enouf | rhys: login how? where? which protocol? |
| 07:28.13 | rhys | ssh. |
| 07:28.53 | rhys | PermitEmptyPasswords Yes is set |
| 07:28.54 | enouf | use ssh-gen-key or something |
| 07:29.20 | enouf | er keygen |
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| 07:29.39 | Hellscream | morning evry1 |
| 07:29.46 | rhys | I know key based login. Thats not what I want. I want a blank password |
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| 07:30.11 | enouf | no you don't |
| 07:30.15 | enouf | not with ssh |
| 07:30.17 | rhys | Username: Anonymous. Chrooted, everything, already setup for other users. SFTP only actually |
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| 07:30.36 | enouf | no |
| 07:30.45 | rhys | enouf: I'm not an idiot. This account needs a blank password. |
| 07:31.01 | enouf | you just give the username no shell |
| 07:31.13 | enouf | is an idiot |
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| 07:31.45 | rhys | enouf: that doens't work |
| 07:32.00 | rhys | enouf: you give the username no shell they can't execute the internal sftp server |
| 07:32.16 | enouf | sorry, i suck sometimes |
| 07:32.45 | rhys | enouf: actually, i just checked. not true. |
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| 07:33.26 | rhys | Sorry, I'm wrong. I've set it to force "internal-sftp" for a specific group. they can't login via ssh or run any commands anyway, but removing the shell does nothing. sftp still works |
| 07:33.47 | Hellscream | is debian 5.02 available? i cant seem to find it |
| 07:34.28 | rhys | now, just to get a blank password set for the anonymous user, in his own little group, chrooted to /srv/pub |
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| 07:39.28 | predder | is there some debian utility that performs this? --> http://linux.die.net/man/3/mkdtemp |
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| 07:42.19 | predder | predder: mktemp -d :D |
| 07:42.54 | rhys | ah. so pam common-auth needs to be changed from nullok_secure to nullok |
| 07:42.55 | rhys | woot. |
| 07:42.57 | julm | is away: "Terminator trees, genetically engineered never to flower, could ensure a silent spring in the forests of the future" -- London Daily Telegraph, July 1999 |
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| 07:48.40 | thrashold | What is rred that is running during apt-get update? |
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| 07:50.05 | thrashold | root 2885 74.0 1.2 5084 1452 pts/3 R+ 10:18 22:58 /usr/lib/apt/methods/rred |
| 07:50.08 | ajavid | enouf, ping |
| 07:51.14 | cahoot | thrashold: the process that processes the pdiff files |
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| 07:52.30 | thrashold | I see, is it normal than on unstable+experimental, it is running a lot more than everything else during apt-get update (half an hour for me usually) |
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| 07:56.05 | SpaceDoG | I'm trying to upgrade from etch to lenny but am apparently stuck in an infinite loop |
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| 07:57.03 | xomhau | hi all |
| 07:57.11 | SpaceDoG | libc6 has to be updated but it won't update due to the kernel version and vice versa |
| 07:57.40 | xomhau | i have meny files with name: 01... 02... 03 ...., how do i remove 01 02 ... in file name? |
| 07:58.05 | ducwaq | Anyone in here every kicked out 64 bit arch in favor for 32bit arch? 64 bit is feeling slow, even on a brand new machine. |
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| 07:59.46 | Blackhold | hello, cdimage.debian.org is not up, there's some other place to download a daily businesscard? thanks |
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| 08:02.35 | RonIn1 | xomhau: if you want a gui application for that you can use thunar's bulk rename... aptitude install thunar , afterwards lookup for bulk rename in accesories at your menu |
| 08:02.54 | thrashold | SpaceDoG: Upgrade to latest etch, then upgrade the kernel in etch, then upgrade to lenny? |
| 08:03.06 | xomhau | thank RonIn1 |
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| 08:10.14 | SpaceDoG | I did thrashold |
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| 08:11.34 | Mariusika | how can i specify sudo timestamp?(from command) |
| 08:12.03 | Mariusika | default is 15 min from what i have read |
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| 08:21.26 | Brune | i am using netbsd as a NIS master server which my debian server secessfully ypbinds to |
| 08:22.04 | Brune | but it doesn't/won't authenicate users using pam to the master NIS server |
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| 08:27.47 | DelphiWorld | hello debian users |
| 08:28.14 | DelphiWorld | i will welcome you to the debian VoIp channel (channel for VoIp users that use debian a a operating system and any PBX |
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| 08:28.21 | DelphiWorld | welcome to #debian-voip |
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| 08:29.05 | ducwaq | DelphiWorld: Wow man, thats a priviledge, do you also have some penis enlargement we can buy? |
| 08:29.36 | DelphiWorld | ducwaq: i don't understand you |
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| 08:30.06 | ducwaq | DelphiWorld: I meant go be a spamer somewhere else. |
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| 08:30.33 | DelphiWorld | ducwaq: no my friend, i will tel you about this channel and the reason to create it |
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| 08:31.27 | DelphiWorld | <ducwaq: i remarqued that CentOs is the mostly used operating system to create a PBX aplience like trixbox, elastix, PBX in a flash and other PBX... but i want to make debian the mostly used OS for that |
| 08:31.49 | DelphiWorld | ducwaq: if you don't understand me tel me |
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| 08:32.44 | ducwaq | DelphiWorld: This is no channel for advertising your private stuff and thats why I will stop discussing with you off-topic. PLONK |
| 08:33.42 | DelphiWorld | ducwaq: ok, i'm sory |
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| 08:50.03 | myself | I want to MANUALLY edit my APPLICATIONS ---> WINE menu, where do i go to do that to manually edit it within nautalis |
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| 08:51.39 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i have a quick question and that is: how do i remove the play button in iceweasel and directly play the flash; the reason is that when i go to google finance and hit the play button to see the chart, i can't see it |
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| 08:55.12 | Arrowmaster | mimiloon: do you have flashblock, adblock, or noscript? |
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| 08:58.37 | mimiloon | Arrowmaster: i have noscript and adblock; i've disabled noscript on google's website and i have a block icon showing on the top right corner of the box but i haven't blocked it |
| 08:59.45 | Arrowmaster | check noscript to see if any 3rd party domains are being blocked on that page |
| 09:00.15 | zhxk82 | gentleman |
| 09:00.18 | Arrowmaster | thats all i can think of |
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| 09:00.31 | mimiloon | Arrowmaster: nothing's being blocked on the page |
| 09:01.00 | abchirk | !mirror netinstall |
| 09:01.24 | abchirk | !netinstall |
| 09:01.24 | dpkg_ | netinst is probably a small CD image which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but the connection is not required for a base install to complete. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and ask me about <check iso image>. If you use a dial-up connection, ask me about <dialup install>. See also <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>. |
| 09:01.33 | ajavid | abchirk, ipppi |
| 09:01.49 | abchirk | ajavid, the mirror over debian.org doesn't work |
| 09:02.07 | mimiloon | Arrowmaster: thanks for your help though, mayb someone else has a solution |
| 09:02.12 | abchirk | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/iso-cd/debian-502-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 09:03.48 | mimiloon | how do i remove the play button in iceweasel and directly play the flash; the reason is that when i go to google finance and hit the play button to see the chart, i can't see it |
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| 09:04.43 | cahoot | mimiloon: flash works otherwise? |
| 09:04.44 | abchirk | ah there is the list... kk |
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| 09:05.38 | mimiloon | cahoot: yes, i was able to play videos on youtube |
| 09:05.42 | basilikum | mimiloon: play button? do you also have flashblock installed? |
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| 09:06.57 | mimiloon | basilikum: no i don't have flashblock installed |
| 09:07.08 | basilikum | mimiloon: or maybe google finance also needs javascript enabled, not just flash? allow it from noscript |
| 09:07.42 | mimiloon | basilikum: i have allowed it |
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| 09:08.34 | basilikum | mimiloon: does it work from a new, clean firefox profile, with no extensions installed? |
| 09:09.12 | mimiloon | basilikum: i don't know, let me check |
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| 09:10.50 | mimiloon | basilikum: it doesn't work even with fresh version of firefox |
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| 09:13.08 | basilikum | mimiloon: ok, then it's not due to the extensions... are you sure it's flash and not shockwave? some time ago, they were different plugins, and only flash was available on linux... |
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| 09:16.22 | mimiloon | basilikum: i don't know, but i have no problems with the firefox version in ubuntu with flash installed |
| 09:16.41 | mimiloon | basilikum: i can see the chart |
| 09:16.50 | mimiloon | in ubuntu version |
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| 09:17.27 | basilikum | mimiloon: oh. how did you install flash in ubuntu vs. debian? both from adobe? |
| 09:18.18 | mimiloon | basilikum: i installed it from the repositories |
| 09:18.34 | mimiloon | in both cases |
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| 09:20.59 | basilikum | mimiloon: you mean http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer ? from lenny-backports or from debian-multimedia? i hear the last one works best, but haven't used flash in a while (not having flash is actually a feature :-P ) |
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| 09:25.25 | mimiloon | basilikum: i believe i didn't install flash because i remember playing youtube videos when i first installed debian without installing flash |
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| 09:27.20 | mimiloon | basilikum: i'll give the instructions a shot |
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| 09:28.57 | basilikum | mimiloon: totem can play youtube videos with no flash installed (using the gstreamer plugins) |
| 09:29.30 | basilikum | mimiloon: and swfdec claimed to be able to play flash movies, too... not sure if it's still the case |
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| 09:31.03 | basilikum | mimiloon: maybe it worked due to mplayer or totem plugins for firefox, if that was installed back then... without "real" flash |
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| 09:31.55 | mimiloon | basilikum: it's confusing, i guess i'll try installing flash myself |
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| 09:32.20 | basilikum | basilikum: confusing and evil :-D |
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| 09:34.05 | sattam | hi , whats the debian lenny life-cycle ? |
| 09:34.19 | mimiloon | basilikum: it worked, thanks for your help |
| 09:34.51 | basilikum | mimiloon: you're welcome |
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| 09:35.59 | josemi | hello, i have a problem, i have no free space so i cant write/modify files in /. Any ideas what could i do? i already did a apt-get clean but there is nothing to clean :( |
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| 09:38.26 | mamalujo | sattam: judging by previous releases, its aiming to be the stable release for the next year and a half, but in reality just under two years, then supported as the old-stable for about yet as much time |
| 09:38.35 | Morten_ | Hey, I have problems with my internet on my Debian dist. I updated a couple of days ago, and in this update the network-manager-gnome was removed, and now I cant install it without removing the whole gnome. But after I updated today I cant use the internet at all... |
| 09:38.56 | Morten_ | I have no idea what is wrong |
| 09:39.25 | JosefAssad | Morten_: join the club. I was directed at this: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse Maybe it'll work for you |
| 09:39.28 | Morten_ | both my wireless and wired connection is up, but it doesn't want to get an ip |
| 09:39.36 | Morten_ | okay, ill check it out, thanks |
| 09:39.45 | cantido | Morten_: how are you getting an ip? |
| 09:39.52 | JosefAssad | Morten_: in the update, network-manager was marked as conflicting with I forget what and therefore removed. Give wicd a shot |
| 09:39.54 | Morten_ | cantido: chcp |
| 09:40.07 | Morten_ | dhcp* |
| 09:40.43 | cantido | Morten_: so, so when you run dhclient you dont get any offers? |
| 09:40.45 | Morten_ | JosefAssad, okay - its also conflicted here. Ill try to see the wicd |
| 09:41.29 | Morten_ | cantido! - You just gave the right pointer! |
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| 09:41.40 | Morten_ | I can connect to the internet now |
| 09:42.12 | cantido | even if you use the graphical tools, knowing how to configure stuff manually is a good idea(tm) |
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| 09:42.56 | Morten_ | youre right - I mostly use manually stuff anyway, but i've never had any problems with my internet like this |
| 09:43.05 | Morten_ | cantido, thanks alot again :) |
| 09:43.29 | JosefAssad | is still wondering what it was network-manager was changed to conflict with. Goes off to read the changelog |
| 09:43.31 | cantido | Morten_: if you don't have any special requirements you might as well just configure the wired interface in /etc/network/interfaces.. |
| 09:44.01 | Morten_ | cantido, I tried that - but it wouldn't obtain the IP |
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| 09:44.17 | JosefAssad | cantido: in the case of a WPA2 personal network, one would need to set wpa_supplicant config too? Or /etc/network/interfaces suffices? |
| 09:44.29 | cantido | Morten_: if you configure the interface as dhcp no static, it'll use dhclient to get an ip when you do ifup |
| 09:44.56 | Morten_ | cantido, okay - ill try to look at it again |
| 09:44.59 | Morten_ | thanks :) |
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| 09:45.18 | cantido | JosefAssad: I can't even remember how wpa works with the interfaces file, I know you can configure WEP there |
| 09:45.32 | JosefAssad | cantido: alright, thanks |
| 09:45.57 | cantido | just looking it up.. maybe its a post-up thing.. like post-up call wpasupplicant |
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| 09:47.15 | JosefAssad | cantido: Yeah, ifup is calling wpa_supplicant but I'm not sure the way it's being called involves /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:47.34 | JosefAssad | cantido: I probably just need to get the WPA settings in /etc/network/interfaces right |
| 09:48.21 | JosefAssad | looks at the clock; it's Danes complaining about losing network-manager hour! |
| 09:48.46 | cantido | is it only the gnome front end that's broken? |
| 09:48.55 | cantido | the kde one is fine from what I can see |
| 09:49.00 | sattam | mamalujo: thank you |
| 09:49.25 | JosefAssad | cantido: hm, that might be a workaround. Lemme ee if aptitude will let me do that |
| 09:49.47 | cantido | http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-wpa/wpasupplicant/tags/0.5.5-2/debian/README.modes?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 |
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| 09:50.07 | cantido | you can configure your wpa-supplicant bits in the interfaces file |
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| 09:50.52 | JosefAssad | cantido: I'll give that another shot |
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| 09:51.31 | cantido | The link I posted is the svn version of the docs that are included in the wpa-supplicant package.. conf examples etc are there |
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| 09:53.28 | cantido | needs usb powered fan... |
| 09:53.44 | sattam | how tp prevent APT from installing non-authenticated packages ? |
| 09:53.48 | sattam | to* |
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| 09:54.32 | JosefAssad | cantido: ditto, though I'm on the other side |
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| 09:55.40 | cantido | what would be nice would be a usb fan with a software controllable PWM or something.. |
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| 09:56.04 | JosefAssad | cantido: not that difficult if you shell out for an arduino |
| 09:56.04 | ChrisW1 | what's the debian equivalent of chkdsk? |
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| 09:56.33 | cantido | JosefAssad: yeah, I have all that stuff.. it's all thousands of miles away though :/ |
| 09:56.55 | cantido | JosefAssad: Women don't tolerate soldering and similar activities |
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| 09:57.02 | Morten_ | is quite sad that network-manager-gnome has been removed :( |
| 09:57.22 | JosefAssad | cantido: women? is that in non-free? I don't use that repo. |
| 09:57.23 | cantido | Morten_: is there not a similar front end? |
| 09:57.56 | cantido | JosefAssad: certainly in non-free.. I wouldn't want it being opened either |
| 09:57.59 | JosefAssad | wicd ought to work |
| 09:58.19 | JosefAssad | didn't work for me, but then again I'm not very smart |
| 09:58.23 | Morten_ | :P |
| 09:58.28 | Morten_ | well, I can try that |
| 09:58.47 | JosefAssad | also, wifi-radar |
| 09:58.52 | cantido | At worst, you could use the kde one, it'll live in gnome dock happy enough |
| 09:59.56 | EmleyMoor | The topic could do with an update |
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| 10:00.24 | cantido | There was a release yesterday then? |
| 10:01.02 | EmleyMoor | Looks like it |
| 10:01.19 | EmleyMoor | 64 updates on this box and 32 on my PBX |
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| 10:01.45 | cantido | http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090627 all there |
| 10:03.04 | Morten_ | hm, any reason that I can chat in here, but can't open any webpages?! |
| 10:03.19 | JosefAssad | Morten_: try restarting your browser |
| 10:03.25 | Slemming | Hello, I'm writing a man page, should I use the "man mdoc" macros? And also, what operation system should I write when the app works with all OS that have X11 |
| 10:03.30 | Morten_ | JosefAssad, just did :( |
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| 10:03.43 | Morten_ | and tried another |
| 10:03.51 | cantido | Morten_: you don't have a proxy or something? |
| 10:04.01 | Morten_ | cantido, no |
| 10:04.15 | Morten_ | cantido, I just connect to the internet through a normal router |
| 10:04.54 | cantido | Slemming: Test that it really does work on all systems with X11 and then write "Should work on an system with X11, tested on..." |
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| 10:05.17 | cantido | Morten_: mmm ping google.com works? |
| 10:05.25 | Slemming | cantido: Sounds wrong to enter such long in the .Os macro |
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| 10:05.33 | JosefAssad | so, in theory in /etc/network/interfaces this ought to do http://pastebin.com/m214878ed but no joy |
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| 10:06.14 | cantido | Slemming: yeah, dunno, you could put Unix. But you can get X11 on other systems too |
| 10:06.31 | Morten_ | cantido, nope doesn't work |
| 10:06.47 | cantido | Morten_: I think you have a dns issue |
| 10:06.50 | zxd | need some help with edquota on remote FS on NFS : edquota -r -f / -m marceloa edquota: Cannot write quota for 1162 on 10.0.0.11:/var/lib/tftpboot/debian_dev: Connection refused |
| 10:07.00 | Morten_ | cantido, yeah - that sounds right |
| 10:07.07 | Morten_ | brb |
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| 10:07.45 | Slemming | cantido: I'll write "X11-compatible" |
| 10:07.58 | Slemming | unless someone has a better idea |
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| 10:08.57 | cantido | Do most man pages include what os the app runs on? Most man pages only become accesible once you've built and installed the thing.. :/ |
| 10:08.59 | Morten_ | works now.. |
| 10:09.22 | cantido | Morten_: did you run dhclient again? |
| 10:09.27 | Morten_ | cantido, yeah |
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| 10:09.50 | Morten_ | But think im gonna try the network-manager-kde for at change |
| 10:09.53 | cantido | Morten_: probably, the first time, you didn't get the right dns servers added to /etc/resolv.conf |
| 10:10.00 | Morten_ | okay |
| 10:10.13 | cantido | network-manager-gnome is available here with testing/unstable.. |
| 10:10.15 | JosefAssad | hm. My acess point says TKIP-AES under lgorithms. Wonder if that requires further /etc/network/interfaces settings... /me investigates |
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| 10:11.27 | Morten_ | cantido, yeah - ill try that |
| 10:11.39 | cantido | Morten_: you're running lenny? |
| 10:11.43 | Morten_ | cantido, DNS fucked again |
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| 10:11.51 | Morten_ | cantido, lenny with testing repo |
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| 10:12.08 | Morten_ | but i'll try to install the network-manager-gnome again |
| 10:12.08 | JosefAssad | Morten_: what I do is I stick the opendns servers in my access point's dhcp server |
| 10:12.10 | cantido | Morten_: so a mix of lenny and testing? |
| 10:12.14 | Morten_ | cantido, yeah |
| 10:12.31 | Morten_ | JosefAssad, oh, that cleaver |
| 10:12.34 | Morten_ | that's |
| 10:12.41 | cantido | Morten_: you'll probably have less issues if you just run testing |
| 10:13.06 | Morten_ | cantido, you might be right, but it have worked fine for a long time |
| 10:13.17 | Morten_ | but then the it blew up |
| 10:13.24 | Morten_ | -the |
| 10:13.32 | Morten_ | brb, try to install the gnome network-manager |
| 10:13.44 | JosefAssad | Morten_: at least piratnævnet haven't gotten around to banning opendns yet... |
| 10:14.00 | JosefAssad | oh lordy. I think I got a wireless connection via ifup |
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| 10:14.02 | Morten_ | JosefAssad, that will probably come.. |
| 10:14.06 | Morten_ | brb |
| 10:14.07 | JosefAssad | I did I did :) |
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| 10:14.26 | JosefAssad | I was just missing being explicit about TKIP in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:14.33 | JosefAssad | (I think) |
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| 10:16.53 | violin | Does Debian support LVM? |
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| 10:18.02 | cantido | violin: yes, you can create LVM volumes during installation if you want |
| 10:18.03 | zxd | how Do i attach strace to a running process |
| 10:18.23 | sattam | debhelper: why are u ignore me :) |
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| 10:24.03 | Morten_ | Wee! |
| 10:24.11 | Morten_ | Thanks for your help cantido and JosefAssad |
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| 10:24.39 | Morten_ | know the wireless and wired network works |
| 10:24.45 | JosefAssad | well, mainly cantido. I just got the bloody thing working the /etc/network/interfaces way :) |
| 10:24.45 | Morten_ | with network-manager-gnome |
| 10:24.47 | Morten_ | \o/ |
| 10:24.56 | michelem | hello folks |
| 10:25.00 | Morten_ | hehe nice! |
| 10:25.05 | sattam | how is lenny-backports , is it stable ? |
| 10:25.09 | Morten_ | <- happy camper now |
| 10:25.14 | michelem | I upgraded, and the updates fucked up PAM |
| 10:25.21 | cantido | JosefAssad: at least you have a backup solution now :) |
| 10:25.23 | michelem | I have the last two shells and can't login anymore |
| 10:25.39 | cantido | michelem: upgraded to what? testing? |
| 10:25.44 | cemunal | when i click "Reboot" on Xfce, it asks "Password" ; how can i fix it? ( Lenny ) |
| 10:25.48 | JosefAssad | cantido: backup? Now I can't get network-manager to run :) I'm not a backup kind of guy :) |
| 10:26.31 | michelem | nono, stable |
| 10:26.33 | michelem | http://pastebin.ca/1477303 |
| 10:26.43 | cantido | JosefAssad: mmm you should be able to get nework-manager going. It's useful to be able to get a net connection, for example if X11 goes up the wall and you need to fix some packages to make it work again |
| 10:27.01 | michelem | have they been moved to /lib ? |
| 10:27.09 | JosefAssad | cantido: for that I have the wired network, I'll be alright. |
| 10:27.19 | cahoot | JosefAssad: you're aware that intefaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces are ignored by n-m? |
| 10:27.48 | cantido | cahoot: not all interfaces are ignored.. |
| 10:28.15 | JosefAssad | cahoot: I'm actually not using n-m for anything. Is there a way that could still affect me that I'm missing? |
| 10:28.22 | cantido | cahoot: Devices listed in /etc/network/interfaces _will_ be managed by NetworkManager |
| 10:28.33 | cantido | cahoot: straight from the docs |
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| 10:29.36 | cahoot | cantido: news for me - I stand corrected - thank you |
| 10:29.43 | cantido | michelem: have you restarted ssh since upgrading pam? |
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| 10:30.09 | cantido | cahoot: I think it has changed since etch.. in etch configured interfaces were ignored |
| 10:30.17 | michelem | no, but what does SSH have to do with PAM? shouldn't it just *poll* it? |
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| 10:30.45 | cantido | michelem: but libpam has changed right? |
| 10:30.48 | michelem | if I restart SSH, I'll be kicked out of those 2 shells, and if it still doesn't work, I'll lose the machine |
| 10:31.08 | michelem | is there a way to test that it works from another client' |
| 10:31.12 | cantido | michelem: so the currently running ssh is linked against the old pam library.. that's my thinking anyhow |
| 10:31.42 | cantido | michelem: you don't have a serial rescue console? |
| 10:32.02 | michelem | yes, but I'm from remote |
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| 10:32.26 | EmleyMoor | Restarting ssh does not usually kill existing sessions but you should consider your rescue options in case it does. |
| 10:32.27 | michelem | well, login works |
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| 10:33.46 | michelem | ok, it worked out. Thanks |
| 10:33.56 | cantido | michelem: how did you fix it? |
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| 10:34.28 | michelem | I tried "login" and it worked, so I restarted sshd |
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| 10:37.55 | `Abo | hey, my /var seems to be full, I have removed stuff from /var/log and /var/tmp |
| 10:37.58 | `Abo | but it still is full |
| 10:38.01 | `Abo | what should I check for? |
| 10:38.13 | michelem | i'm now running after other upgrade problems :) |
| 10:38.22 | cantido | I think I have a box running somewhere that is still running aptitude because ssh died during the upgrade... no one has complained about it being broken though, so I've left it alone . hehe |
| 10:39.03 | cantido | ah, no it was Openvpn.. openvpn got restarted and hasn't come back.. it's been like 3 months now |
| 10:39.40 | `Abo | any idea on how can I free some space from /var ? |
| 10:39.44 | ewet | hi, doesn't the debian kde install cd have pppoe modules? |
| 10:40.41 | cantido | `Abo: aptitude clean |
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| 10:41.07 | `Abo | did that but still almost full |
| 10:41.11 | `Abo | 98% |
| 10:41.14 | EmleyMoor | `Abo: What cantido said first - come back if you are still needing space |
| 10:41.34 | cantido | `Abo: Do you have databases or something? |
| 10:41.41 | `Abo | I use mysql, yes |
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| 10:42.08 | cantido | `Abo: mmm you need to find out what actually taking up the space ncdu or something would help |
| 10:43.03 | cantido | `Abo: If you have a massive database thats filling /var you could always stop mysql, move the data, link it up or reconfigure mysql to look for the data in the new location. |
| 10:43.10 | EmleyMoor | cd /var ; du -sk * | sort -n |
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| 10:43.38 | EmleyMoor | That will put thi biggest at the bottom |
| 10:43.41 | EmleyMoor | the |
| 10:44.11 | EmleyMoor | log is the biggest on mine |
| 10:44.29 | michelem | ok, another question I have is |
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| 10:45.00 | michelem | I'm compiling some stuff under such debian system, and I get embarassing "warning"s on implicit declaration of funcs |
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| 10:45.27 | michelem | however, for the reported functions, all the relevant #includes are present |
| 10:45.39 | cantido | michelem: you can hide most warnings off with gcc options |
| 10:45.41 | michelem | and I'm talking of functions like usleep() etc |
| 10:45.51 | axelis | Hello guys. All the files i have without specific file extension have changed there type to "Adobe JavaScript Binary file" , how can i revert it back to its original type ? And any ideas what could probably caused that in the first place? |
| 10:45.56 | michelem | cantido: I don't want to hide them, I want to *resolve* them :) |
| 10:46.19 | quitte | michelem try #gcc |
| 10:46.19 | EmleyMoor | michelem: You are Phil Pennock and I claim my six euros |
| 10:46.42 | michelem | quitte: I think it's debian specific. Under FreeBSD and Mac OS they compile fine. |
| 10:47.07 | cantido | michelem: compare the gcc versions etc |
| 10:47.12 | michelem | EmleyMoor: uh? |
| 10:47.43 | EmleyMoor | Someone I knew who hated warnings |
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| 10:48.14 | `Abo | one question |
| 10:48.17 | cantido | EmleyMoor: one of my lecturers would fail you if you got any compiler warnings.. he was a DD though |
| 10:48.36 | `Abo | can I remove /usr and /var partition, I mean not to remove but to be mounted all on / ? |
| 10:48.41 | michelem | it's not about hating, warnings are just stuff to fix, and they make you look lame when customers compile your stuff |
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| 10:49.25 | cantido | `Abo: yes |
| 10:49.53 | EmleyMoor | `Abo: Yes, should you want to - but of course you will then fill / rather that /var |
| 10:50.05 | `Abo | neah / has a looot of space :D |
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| 10:50.15 | `Abo | how do I do it? |
| 10:50.39 | cantido | `Abo: you could just create a directory somewhere on / for those bits that are consuming lots of space in /var |
| 10:50.53 | `Abo | seems that in /var/log |
| 10:51.09 | cantido | `Abo: do you have lots of rotated logs.. something.gz? |
| 10:51.17 | `Abo | I removed those |
| 10:51.30 | `Abo | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 42246912 2009-06-28 13:43 wtmp |
| 10:52.53 | cantido | `Abo: to move it, you need to make sure nothing is accessing it.. go into single user mode, umount /var, mount it somewhere else and then dump the contents into the /var directory... then remove the /var line from your fstab |
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| 10:53.17 | `Abo | I see |
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| 10:56.00 | michelem | seems to be up to -std=c99 |
| 10:56.08 | michelem | without, it works |
| 10:56.53 | michelem | meaning the preprocessor strips away the defs of seteuid() if C99 is required |
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| 11:12.31 | hattst | hi, trying to install mpd gives this: E: mpd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1, any idea as to what may be broke? |
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| 11:14.19 | nkuttler | hattst: the postinst script, /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.postinst |
| 11:14.30 | EmleyMoor | What other messages did it give? |
| 11:15.07 | hattst | sorry, nevermind. It's because mpd was running (this was while I was trying to reinstall it in synaptic). having closed it and retrying, everything works out smoothly. |
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| 11:30.50 | Sp00K | Hello. Does anyone know a good and simple application to order all my music in directorys. On genre, etc? |
| 11:31.06 | mamalujo | nwm, etckeeper seems to work afterall, just @ snail pace. hope its just initialy _that_ slow, I can be patient, but this is orders of magnitude |
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| 11:37.20 | nkuttler | Sp00K: sounds like you'll have to script that. have a look at quodlibet, it's quite powerful for large libs |
| 11:37.40 | Sp00K | nkuttler, Thanks, I will look into that. :) |
| 11:37.50 | nkuttler | it's an audio player though |
| 11:38.14 | Sp00K | nkuttler, But it does order music in directory's? |
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| 11:38.46 | nkuttler | it can, but i'm not sure if it can do that by genre |
| 11:39.25 | Sp00K | I'll see if it does, Thanks. |
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| 11:43.24 | dukebody | hello, is there any KDE 3.5 graphical interface frontend to xrandr? I'm trying to setup a multiple-screen environment with a desktop monitor connected to my laptop and I'm having a hard time figuring out what's the best solution. |
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| 11:44.08 | cantido | dukebody: krandr I think |
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| 11:44.29 | dukebody | I want to have two desktops (or should I call them screens) since my laptop screen resolution doesn't match the desktop monitor resolution (different sizes) |
| 11:44.39 | spreeuw | hola, in the new debian can you run apache mpm worker with php5? |
| 11:44.46 | dukebody | not found in lennys' repos |
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| 11:49.51 | blankthemuffin | How would I go about closing a given socket connection by port? |
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| 12:01.34 | mkeil | hi |
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| 12:03.27 | Schuenemann | hey there. How do I start that wifi applet ubuntu comes with? This one: http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png |
| 12:04.50 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: try #ubuntu |
| 12:04.50 | Schuenemann | nkuttler, I'm using debian |
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| 12:04.51 | Morten_ | it's the network-manager-gnome |
| 12:04.51 | Morten_ | it's an applet |
| 12:04.55 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: usually you right-click the panel and add stuff |
| 12:04.56 | Morten_ | for the gnome panel afaik |
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| 12:06.37 | Schuenemann | there is a network one in the list of available applets, but it's not that one |
| 12:06.52 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: did you install network-manager-gnome ? |
| 12:06.59 | Schuenemann | yes, it was already installed |
| 12:07.11 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: try nm-<tab> from a terminal |
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| 12:07.30 | Schuenemann | yeahh, nm-applet |
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| 12:08.06 | Schuenemann | weird, it doesn't show networks |
| 12:08.20 | Schuenemann | it has only vpn connections |
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| 12:08.46 | mosno | how do i know if it is a good/bad idea to add my regular user to the fuse (or any) group? |
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| 12:09.02 | Sp00K | The network manager applet works here. However it doesn' t show my wireless network as it did on ubuntu. It does give me the option to connect to a network but it kinda never connects. |
| 12:09.22 | Schuenemann | Sp00K, same here |
| 12:09.26 | nkuttler | Sp00K: well, is the wireless interface up at all? |
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| 12:09.39 | Schuenemann | mine is... I'm using it right now |
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| 12:10.04 | Schuenemann | I connected with iwconfig |
| 12:10.18 | Sp00K | nkuttler, I'm not sure. It gave an error while booting it couldn't get up. Let me try ifup wlan0 ;-) |
| 12:10.35 | Sp00K | nkuttler, Its already configured. |
| 12:11.04 | Schuenemann | if I start that other applet, network monitor, it shows download/upload, signal power, etc |
| 12:11.09 | Sp00K | ifdown and now ifup: receive_packet failed on wlan0: Network is down |
| 12:11.42 | Sp00K | http://pastebin.com/m32d1428e < full log. |
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| 12:12.02 | mosno | i know that the fuse-utils package created the fuse group... |
| 12:12.25 | nkuttler | Sp00K: pastebin iwconfig wmaster0 and ifconfig -a |
| 12:12.47 | Sp00K | iwconfig command unknown (as root) |
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| 12:13.11 | joeytwiddle | mosno: add your user to the group, if he needs to use fuse. the security comes from nobody else being in the group :) |
| 12:13.16 | nkuttler | !tell Sp00K about wireless |
| 12:13.21 | nkuttler | Sp00K: and install wireless-tools |
| 12:13.30 | Schuenemann | nkuttler, how about me? |
| 12:13.40 | joeytwiddle | mosno: what worries you about adding him? |
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| 12:13.47 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: you said it works from the command line? i don't do guis.. |
| 12:14.04 | mosno | joeytwiddle: yes, i suppose it depends on the semantics of how each individual package uses the group |
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| 12:14.05 | Schuenemann | well, the applet starts and it's empty |
| 12:14.11 | Schuenemann | no networks listed |
| 12:14.26 | mosno | joeytwiddle: what worries me is i don't understand fuse at an expert level for me to know the full side-effects of my actions |
| 12:14.51 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: iwlist scanning |
| 12:14.56 | mosno | joeytwiddle: please note my question generalises to any package that creates a group and requires a user to be a member of said group to have certain functionality |
| 12:15.28 | Schuenemann | it says lo, wmaster0 and eth0 do not support scanning. wlan0 listed the networkds |
| 12:15.47 | cahoot | Schuenemann: the old truth was that interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces were ignored by n-m - I learned today that truth is invalid in debian post-etch |
| 12:15.48 | mosno | joeytwiddle: i'd have to learn more about fuse to know what being able to write to /dev/fuse implies, ie. can user X compromise user Y's sshfs mount? |
| 12:15.52 | nkuttler | Schuenemann: GUI problem |
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| 12:16.12 | rhineheart_m | is there anybody here uses chillispot? |
| 12:16.20 | mosno | joeytwiddle: or can use X get more access to the system than intended (mount via sshfs to a subdir of $HOME) |
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| 12:17.01 | Schuenemann | cahoot, but it's ignoring all |
| 12:17.38 | Schuenemann | cahoot, the applet only has: wire networks (disabled) and VPN |
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| 12:18.17 | zhxk82 | the Leaning twoer of pisa is following down: http://news.qq.com/a/20090628/000260_12.htm |
| 12:18.43 | cahoot | Schuenemann: maybe beside you point - but I just discovered wicd - seems like a competetent replacement for n-m |
| 12:18.55 | joeytwiddle | mosno: as far as fuse goes, i don't think it will give the user any more access than he already has, unless there is an unpatched vulnerability. since fuse runs in user-space |
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| 12:19.58 | joeytwiddle | i can't say for other groups what things you might expose. but the idea of the audio group, is that it allows the user to play audio. your only problem comes if there are bugs in the audio drivers that allow for an exploit |
| 12:20.47 | Schuenemann | cahoot, I'll take a look |
| 12:20.59 | joeytwiddle | in general, the groups are used so you can only give access to those who need it, thus keeping security a bit tighter |
| 12:21.07 | mosno | joeytwiddle: hrm, re. userspace: good point. do you know of a debian policy for how groups are used in debian? |
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| 12:21.12 | mosno | (total lazyweb question) |
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| 12:21.26 | joeytwiddle | but whenever you expose some service, you are increasing risk. that's just the tradeoff ;) |
| 12:21.44 | mosno | true. |
| 12:21.53 | joeytwiddle | mm sorry i'm being very theoretical. i don't have any links for you |
| 12:22.06 | mosno | joeytwiddle: i accept that there might be vulns, my question was more if adding user to group X is insanely stupid |
| 12:22.14 | mosno | joeytwiddle: thanks for your help |
| 12:22.47 | joeytwiddle | add as few users as you need, and you've done your best to keep things secure ;) |
| 12:23.01 | joeytwiddle | but access to that user is now the risk! |
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| 12:23.19 | joeytwiddle | so if you feel you have a more secure user, you could use him for more sensitive stuff, instead of your normal account |
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| 12:23.58 | mosno | joeytwiddle: yes, i could do this under a second account i suppose |
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| 12:24.31 | joeytwiddle | but for fuse, i don't think you need worry. mosno+fuse shouldn't be able to access more than mosno could before |
| 12:25.03 | Sp00K | nkuttler, I just checked 'dmesg | tail' and saw an firmware error.. So I apt-cache'd the firmware. I just installed rt2500-source (= apt-get install rt2500-source ) and my wifi works :-), thanks. |
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| 12:25.57 | dvs | I'm trying to get Debian 5.0.2 but it looks like the Swedish server is nonresponsive (http://cdimage.debian.org/) |
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| 12:26.24 | Sp00K | Oh. I got another question. When I boot my computer it says something about 64 mb ram, couldn't see the full error it was too speedy. Anyone has an idea? |
| 12:26.35 | mosno | cool, thanks joeytwiddle |
| 12:26.59 | Sp00K | dvs, its responding but not very accurate.. Packetloss over here. |
| 12:27.41 | Sp00K | dvs, 3 packets transmitted, 1 received, 66% packet loss, time 2004ms :-) |
| 12:27.44 | dvs | Sp00K: Well, it's not responding to me. |
| 12:27.46 | dvs | ;-) |
| 12:28.01 | Sp00K | its not now to me either. Think its overused or something. |
| 12:28.35 | Sp00K | I just 'tracert' the server.. I only get passed 1 hop, doesn' t look promising. |
| 12:29.22 | dvs | Sp00K: traceroute and ping works for me. |
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| 12:30.09 | Sp00K | Not for me.:-) |
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| 12:31.18 | Schuenemann | Sp00K, check the log: /var/log/syslog |
| 12:31.27 | Schuenemann | about the error |
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| 12:32.58 | Sp00K | Ah I see. |
| 12:33.11 | Sp00K | Jun 28 04:23:51 marlboro kernel: [ 0.004000] Please enable the IOMMU option in the BIOS setup :) |
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| 12:33.32 | Sp00K | Thanks. |
| 12:34.13 | wizl | anyone here used testdisk for recovery? |
| 12:34.13 | Sp00K | I'll bbl, cya. |
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| 12:45.13 | enouf | wizl: photorec? |
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| 12:47.15 | wizl | yes |
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| 12:47.32 | wizl | do u maybe know if i could restore a formated partition? |
| 12:47.38 | Supercazzora | hi |
| 12:47.59 | enouf | what FS was it wizl and what happened? |
| 12:48.00 | Supercazzora | please how can I change cdrom x permission during mount (debian squeeze + kde4) |
| 12:48.04 | Supercazzora | thanks |
| 12:48.13 | wizl | ext3 |
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| 12:48.23 | enouf | !undelete |
| 12:48.23 | dpkg | Linux doesn't generally support 'undeleting' files. For ext2fs *only*, use mc (Midnight Commander), umount the fs, and select "Undelete files" from menu. For ext3fs, see http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and ask about <ext3grep>. With reiserfs, jfs, xfs, you're SooL. Some desktops (GNOME/KDE) offer a trash bin. |
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| 12:49.39 | enouf | Supercazzora: cdrom x ? what issue are you having? what errors? using k3b? |
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| 12:49.58 | Supercazzora | enouf, I'd like to mount a cdrom with execute permissions |
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| 12:50.20 | hrga | Anyone using IBM Thinkpad T30 ? |
| 12:50.37 | dbbolton | i'm having dependency issues trying to install nvidia-glx on sid: http://pastebin.com/d23a4bfd6 |
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| 12:51.04 | Schuenemann | !sool |
| 12:51.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, sol is Shit Outta Luck. Sex On Legs. Earth's star, or the note that precedes La, or but really straight out of luck, or a shit beer |
| 12:51.12 | Schuenemann | haha |
| 12:51.21 | Schuenemann | I thought it meant "cool" |
| 12:51.23 | Supercazzora | enouf, I used: mount /media/cdrom -o,remount,exec |
| 12:51.27 | enouf | Supercazzora: hrm.. you mean you cannot execute files that reside on a CD mediam when mounted? what type of CD is this? |
| 12:51.29 | Supercazzora | enouf, by hand |
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| 12:51.38 | Supercazzora | enouf, DVD |
| 12:51.45 | enouf | why are you mounting it at all? |
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| 12:51.57 | Supercazzora | enouf, matlab installation dvd |
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| 12:53.05 | enouf | hrm .. no idea really ... i never had an issue .. unless you want/need something like cdemu? kiso? |
| 12:53.50 | enouf | there's a GNU/Linux matlab version out there? |
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| 12:56.23 | boha_ | hello how do i execute command automatically as root after reboot |
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| 12:56.36 | spreeuw | boha_: rc.local |
| 12:56.46 | spreeuw | or any other script added to the runlevel |
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| 12:58.07 | dutchfish | Supercazzora, as a workaorund did you try copying the bin you want to execute to a home folder and cmhod 755 also symplink your dvd into the same homefolder? |
| 12:58.09 | raby_58 | !list |
| 12:58.09 | dpkg | raby_58: VATTENE VIA |
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| 13:00.22 | enouf | !octave |
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| 13:00.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, octave is a really cool matlab-alike http://octave.org |
| 13:00.44 | enouf | Host not found :-/ |
| 13:01.04 | enouf | !factinfo octane- |
| 13:01.04 | dpkg | enouf: there's no such factoid as octane- |
| 13:01.08 | enouf | !factinfo octave |
| 13:01.09 | dpkg | octave -- created by erik <~erik@modemcable115.179-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> at Thu Oct 17 04:33:08 2002 (2446 days); it has been requested 15 times, last by enouf, 46s ago. |
| 13:01.31 | enouf | !blame erik |
| 13:01.31 | dpkg | blames nick_h and erik for the end of the Internet as we know it |
| 13:01.59 | fxiny | enouf: works here |
| 13:02.22 | enouf | fxiny: maybe the great china firewall is blocking me :-P |
| 13:03.00 | fxiny | enouf: all the way to fresh noodles ? |
| 13:03.12 | jvogel_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:03.17 | enouf | fxiny: yikes http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ works here |
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| 13:03.39 | enouf | fxiny: i placed a www. in front |
| 13:03.58 | Vonor | meh, can't find any howto for nagios3 in lenny. can anyone provide a link? |
| 13:04.05 | fxiny | same here . i typed http://octave.org |
| 13:04.15 | enouf | fxiny: never once, has that been necessary using my infamous browser ;-) |
| 13:04.29 | cahoot | jvogel_: take a look at rsync |
| 13:04.31 | fxiny | enouf: links2 ? |
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| 13:04.37 | fxiny | lemme see |
| 13:04.51 | Supercazzora | dutchfish, copying and changing permissions would fix, but I don't need to copy 4 GB into hd |
| 13:04.59 | enouf | fxiny: http://octave.org == Host not found - but http://www.octave.org == resolves to http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ |
| 13:05.09 | fxiny | enouf: yes ! links2 : host not found |
| 13:05.11 | enouf | fxiny: ofcourse ;-) |
| 13:05.14 | dutchfish | Supercazzora, no just a symlink |
| 13:05.39 | dutchfish | Vonor, installed nagios3-doc ? |
| 13:05.50 | Supercazzora | duct |
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| 13:05.53 | jvogel_ | cahoot: thanks |
| 13:05.59 | Vonor | dutchfish, yep |
| 13:06.03 | Supercazzora | dutchfish, not working with simlink |
| 13:06.21 | enouf | you gals using WINE or something? |
| 13:06.22 | jvogel_ | 0% [Connecting to ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu (128.61.111.9)] |
| 13:06.28 | jvogel_ | Does that mean that mirror is f'd up? |
| 13:06.30 | jvogel_ | It's hanging there |
| 13:06.42 | fxiny | enouf: an old version |
| 13:06.53 | enouf | fxiny: not you |
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| 13:07.43 | enouf | jvogel_: i get FTP Service Unavailable |
| 13:07.43 | jvogel_ | HOw can i specify a different mirror on the command line? |
| 13:07.52 | enouf | for? |
| 13:07.58 | jvogel_ | apt-get |
| 13:08.01 | enouf | !mirrors |
| 13:08.02 | dpkg | i guess debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>. |
| 13:08.22 | enouf | sensible-editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:08.31 | jvogel_ | no i know that |
| 13:08.34 | jvogel_ | but gatech is usually up |
| 13:08.35 | enouf | !sources.list |
| 13:08.35 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 13:08.41 | enouf | ok |
| 13:08.46 | jvogel_ | is there a way i can say like apt-get install -mirror debian.org |
| 13:08.48 | jvogel_ | or something |
| 13:09.58 | enouf | stops responding for a while - seems too many are taking drugs |
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| 13:10.52 | cahoot | enouf: let's see how long your silence will last |
| 13:11.13 | fxiny | enouf: same old version ;) |
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| 13:22.08 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 13:26.29 | Vonor | ok, seems nagios isn't what i wanted. is there something like redhat's spacewalk for debian? |
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| 13:31.24 | dutchfish | Hi, can anyone point me into the right direction regarding the status of pacemaker formerly known as haertbeat http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Main_Page for Debian Lenny amd64 ? |
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| 13:34.41 | asg | dutchfish: looks like the package is in sid |
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| 13:36.22 | dutchfish | asg, yes, its not in squeeze yet, my q is will it be integrated in Squeeze and possibly when (for tetsing) |
| 13:37.06 | asg | dutchfish: it should make it into squeeze in 7 - 10 days unless it is being held by a dependancy or has an RC bug |
| 13:37.16 | dutchfish | asg, http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pacemaker.html |
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| 13:37.37 | enouf | !britney |
| 13:37.37 | dpkg | britney is probably ftp://ftp.debian.org (and mirrors) uses a rather complex set of scripts to keep it all running with new package updates and such. britney is the script responsible for migrating things from 'unstable' to 'testing'. See also <girls>, <katie>. see <dak> |
| 13:39.35 | iluminator101 | Hey Whats your yourgroup in linux is that your domain? |
| 13:39.44 | dutchfish | asg, as far as i can see its only 1 issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=488780 and thats even not that bad |
| 13:39.59 | enouf | iluminator101: username:usergroup |
| 13:40.16 | iluminator101 | how do i findout what my usergroup is |
| 13:40.21 | enouf | iluminator101: run the 'id' command |
| 13:40.26 | dutchfish | asg, because it will replace heartbeat-2 anyway |
| 13:40.35 | enouf | iluminator101: or 'groups' |
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| 13:41.16 | iluminator101 | negative i am on livecd |
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| 13:41.28 | enouf | postitron |
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| 13:42.18 | iluminator101 | enouf: i am on livecd |
| 13:42.28 | iluminator101 | enouf: so here is the error i have |
| 13:42.30 | enouf | why? |
| 13:44.21 | iluminator101 | enouf: user's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This presents the default sessions and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission user $Home directory must be owned by user and not write by other users |
| 13:44.27 | asg | dutchfish: should be a simple packaging fix |
| 13:45.27 | dutchfish | asg, yes, anyway thanks for responding! |
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| 13:45.44 | enouf | nay, 0600 |
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| 13:47.43 | enouf | that file shouldn't even exist |
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| 13:47.58 | enouf | nor kde and all it's bloat, and non-documentation for that matter |
| 13:48.06 | dutchfish | asg, for your info i am building a wwan cluster on top of it, but SID is to much hassle as a constatly moving target, hence my q |
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| 13:50.09 | iluminator101 | i think i found a way to solve this problem bbl |
| 13:50.10 | asg | dutchfish: you could probably just compile it from source for the time being until the package is fixed. |
| 13:50.26 | dutchfish | asg, thats what i am doing atm, yes |
| 13:50.42 | asg | nods |
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| 13:55.06 | dutchfish | asg, alterntive would be to recode and go by http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openais.html |
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| 13:57.19 | asg | dutchfish: might be too much work depending on how far down the road you are though |
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| 13:59.30 | Hellscream | cdimage.debian.org seems to be down. anyone know when it will be fixed? |
| 13:59.53 | dutchfish | asg, pretty far, but if former wont make it into squeeze or is not stabl enough .... seams to me that openais is more active |
| 14:00.09 | dutchfish | sagso i am in doubt atm |
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| 14:00.38 | Hellscream | anyone? |
| 14:00.45 | obcecado | http://www.debian.org/mirror/list ? |
| 14:00.59 | enouf | !doubt dutchfish |
| 14:01.11 | enouf | :-p |
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| 14:01.19 | Hellscream | im looking for debian 5.02 jigdo files, the mirrors still have 5.01 |
| 14:01.22 | dutchfish | even dpkg has its doubts atm ;) |
| 14:01.39 | enouf | !8ball does dpkg have any doubts? |
| 14:01.39 | dpkg | No. |
| 14:01.46 | enouf | O_o |
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| 14:14.01 | asg | dondelelcaro: at your convenience, you might want to update the topic to reference the release of 5.0.2 /msg lennyr2 |
| 14:15.15 | iluminator101 | so i was able to boot to my home after i did chown yourname:yourgroup /home/username -R |
| 14:15.33 | iluminator101 | but now...my home directory looks empty even though its not empty |
| 14:15.36 | trumpen | how can I tell aptitude to purge a package _and all possible dependent packages? aptitude purge $package doesn't purge the latter |
| 14:16.19 | iluminator101 | permission to pm enouf |
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| 14:20.07 | macrobat | !purge |
| 14:20.07 | dpkg | i heard purge is to completely wipe away a package, including its config files. Use aptitude purge [package] or if you already removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge '~c', or see <confmiss> about restoring individual config files. |
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| 14:21.22 | iluminator101 | So my question is how do i point user to my own username directory which not being shown now |
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| 14:24.09 | trumpen | macrobat, thank you |
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| 14:25.36 | macrobat | iluminator101: would copying all files in the other users homedir to your own solve it? |
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| 14:29.41 | Hellscream | caden_, go to the tennis courts |
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| 14:30.58 | maverique | Does anyone know the command to unmount a drive, if the console tells me that it doesn't know the command unmount? |
| 14:31.06 | asg | maverique: umount |
| 14:31.35 | tones | might i ask, why when i SAK a terminal being used by svgalib do all my other terminals get frozen and artistically coloured too? |
| 14:33.18 | tones | not my day... how about a way to repair the other ttys? |
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| 14:34.21 | tones | so be it. ill just reboot and learn to live with it. |
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| 14:35.48 | iluminator101 | hi adb |
| 14:37.30 | iluminator101 | My question is how do i change my memory pointers to view username directory files that are there but not viewable |
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| 14:38.01 | asg | iluminator101: what kind of files? |
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| 14:38.20 | iluminator101 | Here was initial problem so everyone is on the same page |
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| 14:40.02 | iluminator101 | User's $Home/. dmrc file is being ignored. This presents true default session and language from being saved. Files should owned by user and have 644 permission. User $ Hom directory must be owned by user and not write by other users. |
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| 14:42.41 | iluminator101 | So here is what i did chown yourname:yourgroup /home/username -R, this enable me to log back in, but before this i couldn't view my username, so i created the folder called username, which is same name as the username before, so now i am on newly created username which has the same username as the old username but cannot access the old username's stuff, now thats my problem that i am having |
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| 14:43.51 | asg | iluminator101: does the new user have the same uid/gid as the old user? |
| 14:44.51 | iluminator101 | when i do id i get 1000, i am assuming thats the new user name uid, how do i find uid of the old user name |
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| 14:45.25 | asg | iluminator101: run 'stat /path/to/an/old/user/file' |
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| 14:46.51 | Megaf | good morning |
| 14:46.58 | iluminator101 | 2009-06-28 10:29:59.000000000 -0400 |
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| 14:47.44 | asg | iluminator101: the fourth line of the output lists the uid/gid for the file |
| 14:48.13 | iluminator101 | asg: which is 0400 |
| 14:48.35 | asg | no, that's the timezone your are in |
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| 14:48.56 | asg | iluminator101: you should see something like: Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 1000/ asg) Gid: ( 1000/ asg) |
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| 14:50.58 | Megaf | ok, Hello all, Good whatever :P |
| 14:51.24 | iluminator101 | asg: http://pastebin.com/d68fe8f2a |
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| 14:52.56 | asg | iluminator101: then that should work just fine since the uid and username match and are therefore correct in /etc/passwd |
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| 14:53.18 | iluminator101 | Asg: my home directory show up as empty in gnome folder home, even though its not |
| 14:53.49 | asg | iluminator101: pastebin the output of 'ls -lar /home/iluminator101' |
| 14:54.09 | asg | brb |
| 14:54.32 | iluminator101 | asg: as user or root |
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| 14:55.44 | jackweb | Hello! After upgrading my kernel, GRUB configuration is changed and root is set to (hd0,1) instead of (hd0,0) (the problem appears after moving Debian from one hdd to another). Which file am I to edit to replace (hd0,1) to (hd0,0)? |
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| 14:56.00 | iluminator101 | asg: http://pastebin.com/d40d7f6cd this is as user |
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| 14:56.37 | meglo | Woah. #debian hasn't even updated the topic for the release of 5.0.2. No wonder I can't grab a netinst of it off any mirrors. |
| 14:56.56 | jackweb | I suppose Debian think it is on (hd0,1), but it was moved to (hd0,0) |
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| 14:59.40 | asg | iluminator101: gnome won't show the .* files by default. I think you need ^H to display hidden files. |
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| 15:00.23 | asg | meglo: for now, just get a 5.0.1 netinstall and dist-upgrade it; the changes aren't too dramatic. |
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| 15:01.03 | meglo | asg: I can, but the download will take a while plus installation. I could do other things and wait for propagation/sync... :\ |
| 15:01.12 | iluminator101 | asg: well in old user name home i had like a dozen folders its not there now |
| 15:01.24 | meglo | asg: Thank you for the suggestion, I might end up doing it. |
| 15:01.33 | asg | iluminator101: then you need to copy them to the new directory and chown them. |
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| 15:02.05 | iluminator101 | i am not following...how do i do that.... |
| 15:02.13 | asg | meglo: once you update the netinstall's base stuff, anything you install after that will be the 5.0.2 packages |
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| 15:02.51 | meglo | asg: I assume the 5.0.x releases are different from 5.0rX releases, right? Minor security updates, why a dist-upgrade as opposed to a regular upgrade? |
| 15:03.03 | asg | iluminator101: cp -a /home/olduser/directories-and-files /home/newuser ; chown -Rf newuser:newuser /home/newusers |
| 15:03.10 | Flexa | Hello people! |
| 15:03.10 | Flexa | I have a note book with debian lenny amd64 stable kernel 2.6.26 |
| 15:03.18 | asg | meglo: they are the same, they just changed the naming scheme with lenny |
| 15:03.20 | meglo | asg: Yeah, I think I'll just do that. |
| 15:03.21 | Flexa | native wifi network card and installed the driver ath5x |
| 15:03.29 | meglo | asg: Oh! Thanks for informing me. |
| 15:03.31 | Flexa | compat-wireless got old for this kernel |
| 15:03.31 | Flexa | I also wpa_supplicant |
| 15:03.51 | Flexa | wifi-radar. I think my wireless network WPA2 personal |
| 15:03.58 | iluminator101 | asg: well the olduser name is same as the new one how do i distinguish between them |
| 15:04.07 | Flexa | note I have strong signal in the book but simply do not gain the key to the router or the ip |
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| 15:04.15 | Flexa | when do not drop the fixed ip gatway not have a firewall |
| 15:04.23 | Flexa | any idea of what? |
| 15:05.18 | asg | iluminator101: you can't have two directories with the same name so if that's all you have in that directory, what happened to the old one? You said you created a new /home/iluminator101 directory. Did you delete the previous one? |
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| 15:07.10 | iluminator101 | asg: no. but dont know where it is, but it is there |
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| 15:07.54 | b52laptop | hi |
| 15:07.54 | asg | iluminator101: how do you know it's there? Show me. ls -l /home |
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| 15:08.04 | b52laptop | my vista broke my grub install ; i have booted debian in rescue mode ; but when i try to grub-installer /dev/sda i got the error wrong number of args |
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| 15:09.02 | iluminator101 | asg: as root or user? |
| 15:09.37 | asg | iluminator101: both though the output should be the same |
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| 15:09.48 | asg | b52laptop: zless /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz |
| 15:10.03 | hesco | is it possible to install an svn client w/o the server? |
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| 15:10.19 | FinnTux | are woody packages still available somewhere? |
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| 15:10.58 | iluminator101 | asg: http://pastebin.com/d720d2b59 |
| 15:11.01 | FinnTux | I have a 3.0 machine and I need tcpdump. would be nice to have .deb instead of compiling it myself |
| 15:11.28 | avu | FinnTux, http://archive.debian.net/ |
| 15:11.50 | hesco | FinnTux: my Etch desktop machine just died Friday night, forcing an upgrade to Lenny. Still recovering. |
| 15:12.01 | FinnTux | avu, thanks. I had an impression something like that exists |
| 15:12.15 | asg | iluminator101: that is seriously messed up. You shouldn't have all those standard system directories under /home. However, what is in the /home/iluminator102 directory? |
| 15:13.07 | FinnTux | hesco, thats sad. I hope everything turns up ok :) |
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| 15:13.39 | hesco | not sure how to recover my postgres db's but I think I saved everything else |
| 15:14.01 | hesco | Its actually nice in a way, and long overdue |
| 15:14.16 | iluminator101 | brb |
| 15:14.18 | hesco | man had stopped working over a year ago and I could never figure out why |
| 15:14.29 | hesco | I'd have to ssh off-box to read man pages |
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| 15:15.25 | hesco | This move took me from a 500mhz machine with 5/8 gb ram on a 13gb drive to a 1.8ghz P4, w/ 3/4 gb ram on an 80gb hard drive |
| 15:15.42 | hesco | skype calls are demonstrably clearer |
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| 15:16.16 | Hellscream | any news on cdimage.debian.org? its still off... |
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| 15:16.41 | hesco | I'm wondering if it is possible to install an svn client w/o the server? |
| 15:16.43 | dalfz | i'm trying to download install image too |
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| 15:18.37 | iluminator101 | hi asg i pmed you |
| 15:19.24 | iluminator101 | Asg thanks for all you help, i will be back later |
| 15:20.08 | dalfz | can someone please give me a link to the package-list of 5.0.2? |
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| 15:33.08 | duckx | Hy, is there a git-buildpackage king around ? |
| 15:33.42 | duckx | My Workflow |
| 15:34.05 | duckx | imported dsc in a new tree |
| 15:34.22 | duckx | Import the new source tree (with no-merge) |
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| 15:34.32 | duckx | Create a new branch xxxx-0.9 |
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| 15:34.43 | duckx | Merge the upstream tree in that branch |
| 15:35.05 | sha16 | Hi, i have installed apache, php using <apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5> and if i type http://localhost/ or http://127.0.0.1/ its not responding at all, i restarted apache2 then also no change, anyone could help me out please, Thank you :) |
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| 15:38.41 | duckx | hmmm sha16 : what des /etc/init.d/apache2 start says ? |
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| 15:39.46 | sha16 | duckx: thanks for reply :) it says, "Starting web server: apache2httpd (pid 1979) already running" |
| 15:40.19 | duckx | ps aux |grep httpd |
| 15:40.20 | duckx | ?? |
| 15:40.28 | tingle | hi im comping a cheap dekstop system online for debian but im not really sure what vga card to buy. can someone help me or maybe point out where or on what to google |
| 15:41.19 | duckx | tingle: any nvidia card with nvidia driver work fine on my case |
| 15:41.32 | duckx | sha16: Well to me your apache is running ... |
| 15:41.39 | sha16 | duckx: root 4680 0.0 0.1 3116 712 pts/1 R+ 15:41 0:00 grep httpd |
| 15:41.39 | greenpumpkins | or an intel chip if you don't linke the nvidia driver |
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| 15:41.46 | tingle | duckx: what do you mean? that all nvidia cards are supported? |
| 15:41.57 | Vonor | sha16, check /var/log/apache2/error.log |
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| 15:42.11 | duckx | tingle: indeed look at that file |
| 15:42.20 | mesa_booger | tingle: ati x1950 is not too bad, and runs like a dream with the open-source xorg radeon driver. nvidia cards are good, but the driver "taints" the kernel, and the whole system, for that matter |
| 15:42.36 | tingle | duckx: what file matE? |
| 15:42.45 | duckx | Sorry, mix with sha16 |
| 15:42.59 | Vonor | mesa_booger, "tainting" it only means it uses code not supported by the kernel developers, thats it |
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| 15:43.09 | tingle | duckx: nps |
| 15:43.10 | duckx | tingle: well to me only high end nvidia card may not be supported |
| 15:43.27 | tingle | duckx: well i dont have money for high end nvidia anyway hehe |
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| 15:43.47 | Vonor | even quaddro cards are supported :) |
| 15:43.54 | xor1 | Hi there. |
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| 15:44.18 | mesa_booger | Vonor: i know what tainting means. it also has connotations, just as intended |
| 15:44.20 | duckx | tingle: any 20 box Nvidia card should be fine ... |
| 15:44.27 | xor1 | Is there anything like a roadmap for debian packages before they are added to the stable branch? |
| 15:44.43 | sha16 | vonor, duckx: http://pastebin.com/m3b1c611c |
| 15:44.47 | tingle | duckx: 3.5 inch harddrive is the normal size right? 2.5 is for notebooks iirc |
| 15:44.53 | xor1 | I've been waiting a while for bastille to hit the stable branch, and I can't find any ETA anywhere about when will it be available. |
| 15:44.55 | duckx | tingle: right |
| 15:45.09 | xor1 | The new bastille version I mean. |
| 15:45.41 | tingle | duckx: ty hehe i realize its a little offtopic but again thanks |
| 15:46.10 | duckx | tingle: no problem ;) |
| 15:46.27 | duckx | Just take care if you want to build on latest kernel |
| 15:46.45 | duckx | nvidia modules should be build with module-assistant |
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| 15:46.57 | duckx | But sometime linux-kbuild is not available |
| 15:47.18 | sha16 | duckx, vonor: any help? |
| 15:47.21 | duckx | sha16: hmmm, your problem looks wired ... |
| 15:47.29 | sha16 | oops |
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| 15:47.48 | duckx | where do you setup your apache by the way ? VM, server ? |
| 15:48.02 | duckx | Your network configuration looks like ... a bit sucky |
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| 15:48.24 | sha16 | on my machine, duckx |
| 15:48.33 | duckx | Ok so localy |
| 15:48.37 | tingle | duckx: the nvidia card all have brands like msi, xfz, asus. that does not matter? its all about the chip? |
| 15:48.49 | duckx | Nop does not |
| 15:48.54 | project2501a | ok, who broke the netinstall links on the site? |
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| 15:49.30 | duckx | sha16: sudo ip route show |
| 15:49.36 | duckx | sudo ip addr show please |
| 15:50.06 | duckx | And your /etc/hosts |
| 15:50.18 | tingle | duckx: do you by any change know the difference between ddr2 and gddr2? in the context of vga cards |
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| 15:50.47 | duckx | tingle: gorgious ddr2 ;) ? No really don't know |
| 15:50.53 | tingle | ok nps |
| 15:51.35 | duckx | is still wondering how git-buildpackage find out what the upstream source is .... |
| 15:51.37 | tingle | duckx: GDDR2 exists, but it's pretty much obsolete as the performance is between DDR and DDR2. |
| 15:51.48 | tingle | duckx: i googled it :) |
| 15:51.52 | duckx | k ;) |
| 15:52.20 | duckx | tingle: what is the size/rez of your screen ? |
| 15:52.30 | sha16 | duckx: http://pastebin.com/m57d0cfac |
| 15:53.46 | duckx | sha16: well, nothing to notice |
| 15:53.55 | duckx | sha16: let's try the hard way |
| 15:54.04 | duckx | sha16: open a term as root |
| 15:54.11 | sha16 | ok |
| 15:54.33 | duckx | source /etc/apache2/envvars |
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| 15:55.13 | sha16 | duckx: also have a look at this, http://pastebin.com/m79afce4e |
| 15:55.46 | duckx | Then /usr/sbin/apache2 -X -e debug |
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| 15:56.44 | duckx | sha16: you have a dhcp ... |
| 15:57.03 | duckx | And your hostname does not reverse to your ip address |
| 15:57.04 | sha16 | duckx: nope, a static ip |
| 15:57.43 | duckx | sha16: Well first on /etc/hosts you have 192.168.1.93debian.shahdebian |
| 15:58.07 | duckx | but your ip adress is indeed 192.168.1.76 |
| 15:58.13 | duckx | sha16: sorry about that ;) |
| 15:58.28 | sha16 | duckx: what to do now? :-/ |
| 15:58.48 | duckx | Well first you should be sure your address is static |
| 15:59.20 | sha16 | yes, it is, and my assigned ip is, 192.168.1.76, duckx |
| 15:59.23 | duckx | Hmm the way your setup is done it should be static |
| 15:59.40 | duckx | sha16: so just change the ip in /etc/hosts |
| 15:59.46 | sha16 | okay :) |
| 16:00.06 | duckx | sha16: and then restart apache ... it should be a lot more happy |
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| 16:00.33 | hesco | the Ga Tech repository seems to be down this morning. Can anyone recommend one I can put in my /etc/apt/sources.list until they resolve that issue? I'm in Atlanta GA, seeking something in the SouthEast US. |
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| 16:02.06 | duckx | hesco: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and pick one ;) |
| 16:02.25 | hesco | thanks |
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| 16:03.08 | duckx | sha16: at last verify your hostname with hostname command |
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| 16:03.55 | sha16 | duckx: hostname is debian and i changed /etc/hosts and then restarted apache2 but no change :( |
| 16:03.58 | duckx | anyone using git-buildpackage aroude ? |
| 16:04.36 | duckx | sha16: hostname says debian ? |
| 16:04.43 | sha16 | yes |
| 16:04.46 | duckx | ok |
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| 16:05.09 | duckx | /etc/hosts has 192.168.1.76 debian inside ? |
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| 16:06.01 | sha16 | duckx: yes, 192.168.1.76debian.shahdebian |
| 16:06.10 | duckx | sha16: you should be sure your hostname resolves |
| 16:06.24 | duckx | getent hosts debian should give you an answer |
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| 16:06.33 | Flexa | hey guys get my wifi working! |
| 16:06.33 | Flexa | I forgot to say that boards are working with the Atheros driver and not with mawifi od wext |
| 16:06.37 | Flexa | >:-D |
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| 16:07.31 | Flexa | still had to install compat-wireless |
| 16:07.35 | Flexa | >:-) |
| 16:07.46 | sha16 | dockx: 192.168.1.76 debian.shah debian |
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| 16:08.00 | duckx | sha16: usr/sbin/apache2 -X -e debug in your root shell |
| 16:08.15 | duckx | sorry /usr/sbin/apache2 -X -e debug |
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| 16:08.58 | zhxk | hello how to make the simplest but power most Trojan horse to get the remote controlled? |
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| 16:09.20 | sha16 | http://pastebin.com/m13436b5a , dockx |
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| 16:09.30 | sha16 | http://pastebin.com/m13436b5a , duckx |
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| 16:10.25 | phogg | zhxk: get out |
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| 16:10.52 | duckx | sha16: sudo lsof -i TCP:80 |
| 16:11.09 | duckx | Something is running on you port 80 |
| 16:11.32 | duckx | if lsof is not install apt-get install lsof ;) |
| 16:11.56 | duckx | is still looking for a git-buildpackage warrior |
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| 16:13.10 | duckx | is also looking to anyone running trac on debian etch |
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| 16:13.53 | sha16 | duckx: http://pastebin.com/m61fd8b45 |
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| 16:14.25 | duckx | sha16: so your apache is running ;) |
| 16:14.42 | duckx | sha16: you should check ;) |
| 16:15.25 | sha16 | duckx: but not opening in browser :( |
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| 16:15.46 | duckx | hmm, put debian in the browser .. |
| 16:16.07 | sha16 | yeah tried already :D but no use, duckx :( |
| 16:16.10 | RonIn_ | the link for the official torrent download to the stable release of debian desktop (i386) is broken... http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 16:16.31 | duckx | sha16: stop/start apache & resend the error.log |
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| 16:17.11 | zhxk | phogg:just wonder |
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| 16:18.14 | sha16 | duckx: http://pastebin.com/m122f8aa0 |
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| 16:19.41 | duckx | sha16: your apache looks fine to me ... |
| 16:19.48 | duckx | try with lynx instead |
| 16:19.52 | anddam | hello |
| 16:19.52 | duckx | apt-get install lynx |
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| 16:19.58 | duckx | lynx localhost ... |
| 16:20.43 | duckx | sha16: restart your browser / check you don't use any proxy |
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| 16:20.56 | duckx | sha16: but first try with lynx |
| 16:21.17 | sha16 | yeah, installing lynx now :) duckx |
| 16:21.18 | anddam | I see grouch was in etch but not in lenny anymore, why is this? |
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| 16:22.46 | duckx | anddam: what is grouch anyway , |
| 16:23.20 | duckx | never heard of it |
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| 16:25.16 | duckx | sha16: hu hu ? |
| 16:25.30 | sha16 | duckx: installing.... |
| 16:25.38 | duckx | lol, you have a 486 ? |
| 16:25.52 | sha16 | 486? |
| 16:26.14 | duckx | you should be pretty young ... |
| 16:26.18 | sha16 | hmm, downloading packages.. |
| 16:26.29 | duckx | 486, 586, pentium etc ... |
| 16:26.41 | duckx | k |
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| 16:27.04 | duckx | sha16: you net connection sucks ;) |
| 16:27.12 | duckx | s/you/your |
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| 16:27.49 | sha16 | duckx: yeah ;) time left 3787B/s 2min14s |
| 16:28.05 | duckx | Hmm, DSL line ? |
| 16:28.20 | duckx | you should probably setup an other mirror |
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| 16:30.46 | sha16 | duckx: aah, its the same in lynx also, status is: Making HTTP connection to 127.0.0.1 |
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| 16:32.26 | sha16 | duckx: i think there is something wrong in my "Kernel IP routing table" once again have a look |
| 16:32.38 | sha16 | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 16:32.38 | sha16 | localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 16:32.38 | sha16 | default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 16:33.03 | anddam | duckx: it's a messenger for gnustep, you can have a look in pdo |
| 16:33.49 | anddam | sha16: if your routing was messed you wouldn't go at slow speed, you wouldn't go at all |
| 16:34.21 | sha16 | anddam: thanks for reply :) but my problem is not about speed btw ;) |
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| 16:37.11 | eviltux | Hi all/Hola a todos |
| 16:37.16 | sha16 | duckx: lynx: Can't access startfile http://127.0.0.1/ |
| 16:37.34 | duckx | sha16: phonecall |
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| 16:37.54 | sha16 | duckx: okay, carry on :) |
| 16:38.53 | duckx | sha16: ping localhost ? |
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| 16:39.47 | sha16 | duckx: no reply :S |
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| 16:41.12 | duckx | sha16: do you have this in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:41.15 | duckx | # The loopback network interface |
| 16:41.15 | duckx | auto lo |
| 16:41.15 | duckx | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 16:41.59 | sha16 | it has iface lo inet loopback but not auto lo |
| 16:42.06 | sha16 | s/not/no |
| 16:42.15 | duckx | ok ifup lo |
| 16:42.45 | sha16 | :) |
| 16:42.52 | sha16 | duckx: its working now :D |
| 16:43.02 | duckx | ;Ã |
| 16:43.19 | sha16 | so i need to add auto lo in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:43.19 | duckx | sha16: ok, it's 10 cents :;) |
| 16:43.39 | sha16 | thanks a lot duckx |
| 16:44.49 | duckx | You are welcome |
| 16:46.31 | LAOS | is away: (siesta ) [BX-MsgLog Off] |
| 16:46.31 | LAOS | is idle, siesta [bX(l/on p/off)] |
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| 16:50.15 | ILyuha | Hello, my Debian answers too slow to network requests on some ports. Wether i'm trying to login with SSH, or use sample web server on port 3000, it answers in several seconds, but Apache on standard 80 port answers very fast. Is it possible to somehow trace, what makes my linux so slow? |
| 16:51.06 | sha16 | bye all, have fun :) |
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| 16:53.04 | jelly-home | ILyuha: do your slow services have or use /etc/hosts.allow entries with symbolic names? Is your dns set up properly and does it resolve your client ip fast or slow? |
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| 16:54.41 | kingpin2 | hey i know this is probably the wrong channel but mysql and php never work for me because they get me overflow thing.. |
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| 16:55.02 | bkraptor | is there any GTK app that can do FTPS? |
| 16:55.07 | kingpin2 | does anyone know how to make a random string of 14 letters and numbers?? or maybe 12 characters...? |
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| 17:01.14 | iluminator101 | hi asg i am back |
| 17:01.42 | kingpin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.24 | iluminator101 | so there is another account which i cannot login a so called orphan account with no user id or anything...how would i enable it |
| 17:03.56 | kingpin2 | is that a debian issue? with terminal |
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| 17:05.48 | iluminator101 | asg are you around |
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| 17:07.33 | iluminator101 | How would enable the orphan account |
| 17:09.54 | jelly-home | iluminator101: "no user id"? |
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| 17:10.04 | iluminator101 | yes |
| 17:10.11 | jelly-home | iluminator101: explain. |
| 17:11.40 | freenose | How do I see how much memory each process is using? from the CLI |
| 17:12.26 | iluminator101 | original error is as follows user's $home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This presents the default sessions and language from being saved. file should be owned by user and have 644 permission user $Home directory must be owned by user and not write by other users |
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| 17:15.04 | iluminator101 | i chown yourname:yourgroup /home/username -R to get back up again but....before that i created this new user directory with same name as old username....but problem is memory pointers to user orphan is not linked. |
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| 17:15.23 | \amethyst | freenose: ps aux VSZ is the total address space (including memory-mapped files), RSS is the RAM usage |
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| 17:17.33 | freenose | \amethyst: thanks |
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| 17:18.06 | joey | what is a good program for using DSA? |
| 17:18.16 | ILyuha | jelly-home, probably you right, i have no dns server at all. i don't know, wether these services want to get symbolic name of the client, but i've just put a record with client's name and IP address to the /etc/hosts file and SSH became much faster |
| 17:18.41 | ILyuha | both hosts.allow and hosts.deny are empty |
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| 17:19.41 | ILyuha | jelly-home, thank you for advice. |
| 17:19.42 | barque | so what is a good program for using DSA? |
| 17:19.56 | barque | if I have a keypair |
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| 17:24.39 | Blackhold | hello, I'm trying to configure a intel 5000 card, and an uvc camera that worked in 2.6.27 kernel, but now on 2.6.30 don't |
| 17:24.55 | iluminator101 | How do i change $HOME to equal /home/iluminator102 instead of /home/iluminator101? |
| 17:25.58 | Qew | iluminator101: man usermod |
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| 17:26.46 | Qew | iluminator101: particularly look at the -d and -m options |
| 17:27.23 | iluminator101 | hmm...Qew |
| 17:28.26 | Qew | iluminator101: any problems with using usermod? |
| 17:28.37 | simonrvn | jelly-belly |
| 17:28.39 | Qew | it'll do what you want to be done |
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| 17:33.59 | sundaymorning | hello, I'm trying to understand the .deb package a little better. How do I make sure that a source file that I've got with apt-get source package already have all debian patches applied? |
| 17:34.49 | azeem | sundaymorning: you can't make sure; different source packages handle patches in a different way |
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| 17:35.35 | azeem | running debian/rules build and aborted as soon as ./configure or similar is being invoked should make sure all patches got applied - if you don't want to do that you will have to inspect debian/rules |
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| 17:39.03 | sundaymorning | right, thanks |
| 17:39.12 | Jids | how would i go about getting the nVidia drivers for my 9600 installed, and how do i get Debian to realize that my monitor supports up to 1280x1024? |
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| 17:40.36 | ajavid | good morning |
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| 17:41.32 | ajavid | Jids, /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 17:41.43 | ajavid | Jids, /msg dpkg setup x |
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| 17:51.57 | Jids | when doing the update, what do Ign, Get, and Hit mean? |
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| 18:03.25 | julm | is back (gone 07:45:51) |
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| 18:08.16 | exn | anybody knows what values freeradius returned for execprogram-wait in chap_passwd and chap_challenge. it's not binary and not right hex values O_o |
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| 18:11.17 | no_maam | hi |
| 18:11.30 | no_maam | what is the best way to automatically rip a movie stream? |
| 18:12.38 | exn | dd |
| 18:12.50 | no_maam | well, it is availble via http |
| 18:13.09 | no_maam | so I am looking for some scripts where I can programm a recording |
| 18:13.15 | exn | it's joke. mencoder will help |
| 18:13.16 | julm | is away: nothing |
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| 18:13.39 | no_maam | yes, mencoder works |
| 18:14.06 | no_maam | but it has no frontend, where I can programm a recording |
| 18:14.06 | exn | also devede if you want X program |
| 18:14.10 | exn | but I don't remember what is it :D |
| 18:14.37 | exn | ah, sorry it's just for menus =) |
| 18:14.52 | exn | I was do it with mencoder 2 times |
| 18:14.54 | peppe | no_maam: define "rip a movie stream" |
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| 18:15.09 | no_maam | peppe: well, I would like to have a recording of it |
| 18:15.21 | peppe | no_maam: of a http stream? |
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| 18:15.36 | no_maam | peppe: so I would like to have a frontend, I can tell to take a specific url, record it at a certain point of time |
| 18:15.50 | no_maam | peppe: perhaps reencode or deinterlace it later |
| 18:15.53 | no_maam | peppe: and then save it |
| 18:15.55 | valdyn | no_maam: apt-cache show atd |
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| 18:17.00 | valdyn | no_maam: used like: 'echo "mencoder foo bar" | at 19:00' |
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| 18:17.44 | no_maam | valdyn: yes, I know, but did somebody perhaps allready do this with a nice user interface? |
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| 18:22.19 | Vonor | hi, i'm using this guide http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s05.html.en to setup a tftp boot server, though i use udhcpd, have told udhcpd which file to boot (pxelinux.0) and to use the ip of eth1 as tftp boot server. the client receives the ip from the dhcp and tries to start the tftpboot, but it gets a tftp open timeout |
| 18:22.21 | Vonor | any ideas? |
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| 18:35.31 | Vonor | ok, got the tftp to boot, now i'm looking for a diskless install with rootfs via nfs for each machine. anyone got a howto? |
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| 18:36.18 | adb | !pxe |
| 18:36.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, pxe is Pre-boot eXecution Environment, a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 Also ask about <gPXE>. |
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| 18:55.38 | Vonor | hmm, according to the examples in the debootstrap manpage i could do "debootstrap sid ./sid-root http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian" and it should work...though i have changed sid for stable and the target to /nfsroot and debootstrap says that the url is not a valid script? |
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| 18:57.30 | Vonor | !debootstrap |
| 18:57.30 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips#s-chroot . It is key to Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a UNIX/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 18:57.44 | \amethyst | Vonor: try 'lenny' rather than 'stable' |
| 18:58.09 | Vonor | hmm, now that works...thanks |
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| 19:01.36 | gothenburg | How can I active mod_rewrite? |
| 19:01.59 | zinx | a2enmod |
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| 19:03.21 | gothenburg | hmm |
| 19:03.37 | joeytwiddle | LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_rewrite.so |
| 19:04.11 | iluminator101 | is there like a restore function in linux |
| 19:04.32 | gothenburg | iluminator101: restore what? |
| 19:04.47 | gothenburg | intresting, Wordpress doesn't like it |
| 19:04.51 | gothenburg | 403 just |
| 19:04.57 | zinx | people are still using apache 1.3? |
| 19:05.02 | archer | lol |
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| 19:05.32 | gothenburg | I'm using 2.2 |
| 19:05.35 | gothenburg | I think |
| 19:05.47 | gothenburg | but Wordpress doesn't work |
| 19:05.49 | gothenburg | with permalinks |
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| 19:06.10 | \amethyst | gothenburg: so as zinx said a2enmod rewrite the reload apache |
| 19:06.11 | iluminator101 | gothen* my home userdirectory is there but...i cannot access them |
| 19:06.20 | gothenburg | \amethyst: did it |
| 19:06.32 | zinx | gothenburg: restart apache |
| 19:06.33 | gothenburg | but.. |
| 19:06.53 | \amethyst | is the wordpress config with its rewrite rules being loaded? |
| 19:06.55 | zinx | gothenburg: if you have it in a sub-directory, you need to set RewriteBase |
| 19:07.06 | gothenburg | ah |
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| 19:09.24 | boodie | Hi I got a problem: the audio doesn't work. It happened after I tampered, without success, with gspca and a little evil webcam. |
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| 19:10.17 | boodie | The audio works after I re-configure alsaconf, but having to do it at every boot is frustrating |
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| 19:10.43 | iluminator101 | Could i restore my box to yesterday at 10pm? |
| 19:11.19 | Vonor | methinks using the install dvd instead of a mirror would be faster for debootstrap :D |
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| 19:14.03 | craigevil | sure if you have a saved image of what it was then |
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| 19:17.47 | DelphiWorld | hello |
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| 19:18.23 | DelphiWorld | please any documentation to create a custom Debian based distro? |
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| 19:20.08 | osfd_ | Hi, do you know a cool timer and/or countdown thing please..? |
| 19:20.48 | craigevil | DelphiWorld: you might take a look at the debian-live project |
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| 19:21.38 | osfd_ | or clock, whatever can help to see the time running |
| 19:22.02 | |niko| | Is there a place I can get linux-libre .debs for amd64? |
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| 19:32.34 | stuckey | I just installed lenny onto a logical volume and now I can't boot anymore; I just see "lilo 22.8 loading linux... " and then some other stuff and then it stops. |
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| 19:35.22 | maxbaldwin | Does debian have a program to create a live-usb? |
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| 19:36.28 | slv | unetbootin |
| 19:37.16 | Flexa | hands are utilizavai xgl and compiz in debian lenny 5 stable? amd64 |
| 19:37.25 | Flexa | ops |
| 19:37.27 | Flexa | sorry |
| 19:37.33 | Flexa | wait |
| 19:37.56 | Flexa | xgl compiz hands and be usable |
| 19:37.56 | Flexa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.02 | Flexa | ?? |
| 19:39.00 | tingle | "Ksplice has started offering Ksplice Uptrack for Ubuntu Jaunty, a free service that delivers rebootless versions of all the latest Ubuntu kernel security updates. It's currently available for both the 32 and 64-bit generic kernel, and they plan to add support for the virtual and server kernels by the end of the month, according to their FAQ. This makes Ubuntu the first OS that doesn't need to be rebooted for security updates. (We covered Ksplice's underlyin |
| 19:39.10 | tingle | nice so i quess its possible for debian too? |
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| 19:39.56 | Flexa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.29 | Flexa | im have the compiz |
| 19:40.37 | Flexa | but no have the Xgl |
| 19:41.05 | Flexa | which can replace the xgl? |
| 19:41.31 | Flexa | there is something? |
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| 19:49.01 | tingle | Package ksplice |
| 19:49.01 | tingle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.01 | tingle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.02 | tingle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:49.17 | tingle | damn i thought it was not much |
| 19:49.28 | tingle | but does that mean it wont EVER get in lenny? |
| 19:49.37 | tingle | its from http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ksplice |
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| 19:52.31 | avu | tingle, yes. it might get into lenny-backports though |
| 19:52.31 | adb | !xgl |
| 19:52.32 | dpkg | Xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL, takeing advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl Deprecated and unsupported. Replaced by the Accelerated Indirect GLX project, ask me about <aiglx>. |
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| 19:54.13 | MadMoney | WHEREIS iso for Debian stable :( |
| 19:54.30 | MadMoney | HTTP 404 error when I try to get the i386 netinst. |
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| 19:55.05 | tingle | avu: thanks, is testing the same as backports? |
| 19:55.17 | avu | tingle, no |
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| 19:55.36 | avu | tingle, lenny-backports contains packages backported from testing (squeeze) to run on lenny |
| 19:55.48 | avu | tingle, see backports.org |
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| 19:56.29 | tingle | avu: issnt that the same as just adding the testing resources? |
| 19:56.36 | avu | tingle, no |
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| 19:57.05 | avu | tingle, if it was, there would be no need for it.. :) |
| 19:57.32 | adb | avu: i thought backports come from sid |
| 19:57.39 | avu | adb, no, testing |
| 19:57.45 | adb | sure ? |
| 19:58.12 | adb | judd: versions linux-image |
| 19:58.12 | judd | adb: linux-image -- |
| 19:58.22 | avu | Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates) |
| 19:58.30 | tingle | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main non-free contrib |
| 19:58.34 | tingle | i added this |
| 19:58.37 | avu | tingle, don't. |
| 19:58.49 | tingle | and then installed fluxbox with apt-get install fluxbox |
| 19:58.56 | tingle | then i got the latest fluxbox |
| 19:59.00 | avu | tingle, if you add this to a stable sources.list, you will be running more testing than stable in no time |
| 19:59.02 | tingle | i read it on forums.debian.net |
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| 19:59.19 | tingle | avu: yes i understand thats why it out again |
| 19:59.37 | MadMoney | Okay, there's no way to get Debian. :( |
| 19:59.41 | Qew | tingle, if you want it now, you can always learn how to backport it yourself. It seems the dependencies are met by Lenny for ksplice. |
| 19:59.44 | tingle | avu: after i installed fluxbox i re-eddited soures.list and dit a update |
| 19:59.54 | avu | tingle, that's even worse |
| 20:00.02 | MadMoney | And I'm not doing Torrent, that will get my banned by my ISP. They have no-tolerance for warez programs. |
| 20:00.13 | avu | tingle, now all the new packages that got pulled in along with that fluxbox installation won't get updated. ever. |
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| 20:00.24 | MadMoney | The link for i386 netinst is broken. |
| 20:00.31 | tingle | avu: yeah i sadly undestand that |
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| 20:00.48 | adb | MadMoney: which warez programs ? |
| 20:00.50 | gothenburg | how convert a textfile to utf-8? |
| 20:00.50 | craigevil | MadMoney: how is downlaoding an iso using torrent a bad thing |
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| 20:01.00 | lesshaste | hi all |
| 20:01.03 | MadMoney | Torrent is warez program |
| 20:01.07 | craigevil | lol |
| 20:01.10 | Qew | lol |
| 20:01.10 | tingle | http://debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
| 20:01.21 | MadMoney | My ISP has banned for using it before, even for free files. |
| 20:01.25 | Qew | amazing how disinfo is spread |
| 20:01.31 | craigevil | then your ISP sucks |
| 20:01.36 | gothenburg | vim |
| 20:01.39 | tingle | MadMoney: http://debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ download it from there |
| 20:01.44 | MadMoney | It's either this ISP or Dial-Up. |
| 20:02.10 | tingle | avu: ok i understand im reading about backports now that for helping so far |
| 20:02.38 | MadMoney | It must be HTTP/FTP my ISP said. |
| 20:02.44 | avu | MadMoney, have you reported the broken links? |
| 20:03.05 | MadMoney | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/iso-cd/ - Getting 404 on my laptop. |
| 20:03.06 | craigevil | MadMoney: just use a different mirror |
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| 20:03.11 | Qew | tingle, if you want to backport it yourself, then you can always read up on this tutorial at forums.debian.net: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976 |
| 20:03.20 | MadMoney | I tried that, but I got lost. |
| 20:03.39 | Qew | it's fairly easy and straightforward how to backport. The howto explains quite well |
| 20:03.45 | avu | !ssb |
| 20:03.45 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 20:04.46 | adb | MadMoney: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 20:06.03 | MadMoney | That's not 5.0.2 |
| 20:06.10 | MadMoney | I mean 5.0.4 |
| 20:06.18 | adb | 5.0.4 ? |
| 20:06.24 | MadMoney | Yeah, Lenny. |
| 20:06.31 | Qew | cool, it's xmas 2009 ;) |
| 20:06.46 | MadMoney | What is current? |
| 20:06.52 | Qew | 5.0.2 |
| 20:06.54 | adb | MadMoney: 5.0.2 is to came , so wait |
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| 20:07.04 | MadMoney | So I will do 5.0.1 |
| 20:07.06 | MadMoney | Thanks! :) |
| 20:07.11 | adb | np |
| 20:07.12 | avu | MadMoney, just get 5.0.1 and update later, the difference is absolutely minimal and might not even affect you at all |
| 20:08.14 | MadMoney | heh, I almost grabbed for my Debian Potato CD. :) |
| 20:08.36 | MadMoney | I'm not sure if that would be a good idea on a web server. ;) |
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| 20:09.27 | MadMoney | Hmm, IE6 is hanged. |
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| 20:09.41 | MadMoney | FTP sites hang it for a few minutes. |
| 20:09.57 | MadMoney | gets out Netscape Communicator |
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| 20:10.42 | MadMoney | Argh... Netscape is downloading the ISO has HTML. :( |
| 20:10.48 | pascalll | Hi, I have a mac mini with broken hd and i would like to boot the mac with a hd image on another computer, any suggestion of program please? |
| 20:11.12 | MadMoney | pascalll: Yes. |
| 20:11.30 | MadMoney | pascalll: You can network boot using PXE, if supported. |
| 20:11.41 | pascalll | MadMoney thanks |
| 20:11.42 | MadMoney | Well, not sure Mac Mini supports netbooting in the openfirmware. |
| 20:11.55 | pascalll | i will read thanks madmoney |
| 20:12.06 | MadMoney | Alternatively, you can boot it off of a USB thumb drive or a CD, and then that can start the network boot. |
| 20:12.30 | MadMoney | http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?s=a256a99d7174a9066f97aaf8dee33d5a&showtopic=12536 |
| 20:13.15 | MadMoney | I now know why Netscape really failed... it tries to display .iso. |
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| 20:13.45 | MadMoney | Oh well, at least I installed wget.exe on my NT 4 machine. |
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| 20:14.28 | garthfluff | can someone walk me through resizing a root lvm? |
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| 20:14.52 | DelphiWorld | please cool anyone tel me how i can create a custom distro based on debian? |
| 20:15.04 | MadMoney | Damn it, I need to update msvcrt.dll :( |
| 20:15.10 | patrikf | garthfluff: probably not. but you can read up on lvextend and resize2fs |
| 20:15.33 | garthfluff | yeah |
| 20:15.38 | patrikf | DelphiWorld: if you don't know how to do it, then you shouldn't do it |
| 20:15.43 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 20:15.47 | garthfluff | i've got a rough idea on how to do it |
| 20:15.57 | garthfluff | using resize2fs |
| 20:16.00 | MadMoney | DelphiWorld: Start by naming it after Madonna's documentary "I Am Because We Are" (Ubuntu). |
| 20:16.08 | garthfluff | but i can't seem to find my lvs when i boot the live cd |
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| 20:16.26 | MadMoney | patrikf: Don't discourage people. Let him try and learn something. |
| 20:16.28 | Azrael_- | are there already patches against slowloris in apache on lenny? |
| 20:16.48 | MadMoney | No one has to use Metoo Linux. |
| 20:17.02 | patrikf | MadMoney: well, but he isn't trying. |
| 20:17.30 | MadMoney | DelphiWorld: You need to first learn a lot about how a Linux distribution is put together. |
| 20:17.52 | MadMoney | DelphiWorld: Bootloader, kernel, initrd, glibc, et cetera. |
| 20:18.07 | patrikf | garthfluff: what live cd are you using? |
| 20:18.21 | garthfluff | debian live |
| 20:18.32 | MadMoney | I learned a lot trying to make my own distribution, but in the end, it isn't prudent to DIY when Debian does what you need. |
| 20:19.04 | patrikf | garthfluff: and vgdisplay doesn't list anything? |
| 20:19.05 | MadMoney | There's LFS, too. |
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| 20:19.27 | RaymondX | haha just change the configs and settings and you have yourself a new distro |
| 20:19.36 | MadMoney | If you are an idiot. |
| 20:19.46 | garthfluff | vgdisplay : command not found |
| 20:20.01 | MadMoney | Madonna - Nothing Really Matter.flac |
| 20:20.02 | patrikf | garthfluff: ... you're doing that as root, right? |
| 20:20.10 | garthfluff | yup |
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| 20:20.46 | patrikf | garthfluff: then get yourself a better live cd... (for example, grml) or you can install the lvm2 package on-the-fly |
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| 20:20.59 | MadMoney | patrikf: Err, whoops. |
| 20:21.12 | patrikf | MadMoney: was already typing up something ;-) |
| 20:21.29 | patrikf | s/up// |
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| 20:22.23 | garthfluff | getting grml now |
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| 20:24.52 | ntro | i'm trying to get python2.6 + mod_python working on a debian install, and it's eating my lunch. any tips? |
| 20:25.26 | patrikf | garthfluff: I think with grml you need to issue "Start lvm2" or some boot option to detect LVM volumes, be aware of that. |
| 20:26.33 | garthfluff | ah |
| 20:26.33 | ntro | i'd just give up and stick with 2.5, but my developer is using ubuntu on his desktop with 2.6 and he's using some 2.6 features. . . |
| 20:26.34 | garthfluff | thats probably why i can't find mine |
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| 20:27.45 | MadMoney | ntro: Be more specific. |
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| 20:28.29 | MadMoney | ntro: "Eating my lunch" could mean anything from a simple config problem to RMS being sent to your workplace to steal your lunch out of the fridge. |
| 20:28.59 | slarken | Is there an equivalent of /etc/sysconfig/iptables (i.e in RedHat) in Debian 5? I want to use iptables as I already have a iptables file with rules defined from other distros, how would I go about this? |
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| 20:29.52 | slarken | Various sites i've seen say "Debian, for example, has no equivalent of /etc/init.d/iptables, unless you write the script yourself." How would I write the script myself and get it working? |
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| 20:30.23 | simNIX | slarken, I have my lines in /etc/network/if-up.d/iptables |
| 20:30.28 | MadMoney | slarken: It isn't hard to come up with one. |
| 20:30.32 | ntro | MadMoney, hehe |
| 20:30.48 | ntro | well, i'm trying my best to do this the debian |
| 20:30.48 | DelphiWorld | MadMoney: i don't understand you |
| 20:30.48 | ntro | way |
| 20:31.03 | DelphiWorld | patrikf: whi? |
| 20:31.09 | DelphiWorld | patrikf: debian is not only for you |
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| 20:31.16 | ntro | but i just can't find python2.6 packages |
| 20:31.21 | ntro | well, i take that back, i did find them |
| 20:31.23 | ntro | in experimental |
| 20:31.29 | slarken | simNIX: So how would I have iptables load the rules from /etc/network/if-up.d/iptables when the service is started? |
| 20:31.37 | LAOS | has returned. (dead, 3h 45m 7s) |
| 20:31.37 | LAOS | is back from the dead. Gone 3 hrs 45 min 7 secs |
| 20:32.14 | ntro | but there's no libapache2-mod-python in experimental |
| 20:32.24 | ntro | so i apt-get source libapache2-mod-python, build it, and install |
| 20:32.36 | DelphiWorld | patrikf: if you say that then you want to monopolise debian OS only for you |
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| 20:33.06 | ntro | but it won't install because the python2.6 in experimental is called 'python2.6' and not called 'python' with 'version >= 2.6', which is what the new libapache2-mod-python wants. |
| 20:33.16 | ntro | so, i installed it with dpkg -i --force-depends |
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| 20:33.27 | ntro | but now apt gripes at me every time i do anything else |
| 20:33.47 | ntro | also all of the packages i installed want to be overwritten when i do apt-get upgrade |
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| 20:34.02 | ntro | so, in short, i'm just really frustrated with python2.6 in debian. |
| 20:34.14 | NicoOOoOo | my user can't access ton alsa |
| 20:34.20 | ntro | i'll keep typing if anyone else wants to talk about it, or i'll shut up if not |
| 20:34.29 | NicoOOoOo | U have make sudo addgrp nico audio |
| 20:34.34 | NicoOOoOo | but no work :( |
| 20:35.12 | pngwn | LAOS, turn that bitchx stuff off in here |
| 20:35.50 | simNIX | slarken, when network comes up it gets auto executes as far as I know |
| 20:36.15 | simNIX | just be sure its executable |
| 20:36.16 | craigevil | !tell LAOS about away |
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| 20:38.45 | frostschutz | ntro: does it have to be mod_python? |
| 20:38.52 | ntro | yeah |
| 20:39.09 | bzed | lnostdal: you should use mod_wsgi these days |
| 20:39.16 | frostschutz | that sucks, then |
| 20:39.29 | ntro | would it be any easier if it were mod_wsgi? |
| 20:39.33 | bzed | lnostdal: eh sorry |
| 20:39.38 | lnostdal | bzed, *poke* |
| 20:39.42 | bzed | ntro: you want to use mod_wsgi |
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| 20:40.09 | ntro | okay he's using mod_python.publisher for his handler, is that going to be a problem? |
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| 20:40.17 | ntro | or are they basically identical from a programmer's perspective |
| 20:40.21 | fortlock | hello. my .bash_profile seems to be empty |
| 20:40.24 | fortlock | that normal? |
| 20:40.25 | frostschutz | ntro: no, it's not identical |
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| 20:40.40 | bzed | ntro: they're different. but mod_python won;t be maintained anymroe soon probably |
| 20:40.42 | fortlock | or am i supposed to just create it myself? |
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| 20:41.19 | bzed | ntro: and if you want to have python2.6, you have to wait - or recompile it mod_wsgi manually in the right way |
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| 20:47.06 | garthfluff | i have lvm2 installed on my live cd |
| 20:47.14 | garthfluff | and i've scanned my hdd to lvs |
| 20:47.23 | garthfluff | but they are still not in /dev/ |
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| 20:47.25 | garthfluff | any ideads |
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| 20:53.28 | Egelmex | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ is it known that the links from this page are 404d? |
| 20:55.49 | wizl | yesterday they worked |
| 20:55.50 | wizl | ok |
| 20:55.53 | MadMoney | Egelmex: I had the same problem; try another mirror. |
| 20:56.01 | wizl | i can send |
| 20:56.03 | wizl | u torrent |
| 20:56.07 | ntro | maybe someone can answer another quick question - when i install my custom built .deb, the next time i run apt-get anything it tells me there is 1 pacakge not upgraded. i can't remember what it is, but isn't there something in debian/control i can change to tell apt that this is the version i want, don't upgrade it for me? |
| 20:56.14 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:56.21 | MadMoney | Debian's web guy is smoking crack today. ;) |
| 20:56.37 | Egelmex | wizl: would be good, but am connected through a conveluted mannor atm |
| 20:56.55 | Egelmex | MadMoney: got a link to another mirror? |
| 20:57.05 | adb | read up |
| 20:57.07 | MadMoney | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.20 | Egelmex | adb: sorry missed that thanks :D |
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| 20:57.25 | adb | np |
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| 21:01.53 | dimm | hello |
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| 21:02.00 | dimm | i try to install debian lenny via debootstrap |
| 21:02.20 | Egelmex | well done |
| 21:02.23 | tuv_ | what is a photo library manager suitable for sharing a library (with tags) across multiple machines? |
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| 21:06.26 | elohim | hi |
| 21:06.30 | dimm | /mnt/c000/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/debootstrap.invalid_dists_lenny_main_binary-s390_Packages.bz2 |
| 21:06.44 | dimm | elohim, hi |
| 21:06.45 | elohim | i just installed lenny. It intstalled gnome. |
| 21:06.46 | elohim | i want kde |
| 21:07.16 | elohim | kde 3.5 |
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| 21:11.07 | craigevil | !kde |
| 21:11.08 | dpkg | [kde] K Desktop Environment, based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Not a window manager. To get KDE, ask me about <install kde>. Ask your KDE questions in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net), see also <kde_trouble>. http://wiki.debian.org/KDE KDE-related IRC channels: http://wiki.kde.org/IRC+Channels |
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| 21:13.57 | dimm | why "invalid" in file name ? |
| 21:15.14 | azeem | dimm: so that it's clear it's not properly configured yet I guess |
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| 21:25.01 | h3xis | does gedit have a "save all" feature? i'm editing multiple files and it would be nice to be able to click a button that saved everything at once instead of having to go through every tab |
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| 21:26.33 | exn_ | guys, what radius servers with support external authentication do you knows ? freeradius sux in this.. I need with chap mschap etc. |
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| 21:30.28 | enouf | elohim: fwiw, you could've passed the installer the option "tasks='standard,kde-desktop'" IIRC, the Installation Guide mentions it; or, you could've grabbed the KDE CD1 |
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| 21:31.02 | macrobat | my swap partition doesnt have an uuid. is it supposed to? |
| 21:31.04 | enouf | elohim: /msg dpkg install kde ; /sg dpkg remove gnome |
| 21:31.11 | enouf | elohim: /msg dpkg install kde ; /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 21:31.22 | enouf | macrobat: it can, should |
| 21:31.33 | enouf | macrobat: did you use mkswap to generate it? |
| 21:31.52 | macrobat | no, i looked at /dev/disk/by-uuid |
| 21:32.12 | enouf | macrobat: run 'blkid' |
| 21:32.13 | macrobat | i made it in the installer |
| 21:32.37 | macrobat | installing... |
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| 21:33.41 | macrobat | i have only /dev/sda2: TYPE="swap" |
| 21:34.01 | enouf | oh, hrm, i forget if the installer does dole out a uuid, just swapoff -a; dd /dev/zero it out; mkswap ; swapon -a |
| 21:34.05 | fortlock | hello. my .bash_profile seems to be empty |
| 21:34.07 | fortlock | that normal? |
| 21:34.10 | fortlock | or am i supposed to just create it myself? |
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| 21:35.12 | enouf | macrobat: try file -s /dev/sda2 |
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| 21:35.32 | macrobat | UUID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 |
| 21:35.32 | enouf | /dev/hdc2: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages), size 243399 pages, no label, UUID=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 |
| 21:35.43 | enouf | haha .. pretty unique :-p |
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| 21:35.48 | macrobat | does that mean i dont use the swap? |
| 21:35.56 | enouf | no |
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| 21:36.11 | enouf | cat /proc/swaps ; free |
| 21:36.23 | adb | fortlock: that normal , how many users you have ? |
| 21:36.46 | fortlock | well, there is me, myself, and of course I... |
| 21:36.50 | fortlock | that's about it |
| 21:37.04 | macrobat | Swap: 0 0 0 :) |
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| 21:37.19 | enouf | macrobat: run swapon |
| 21:38.04 | boha_ | I have this line in rc.local: echo '1' > /proc/acpi/video/*/DOS, but it doesn't execute on reboot |
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| 21:38.14 | boha_ | why ? |
| 21:38.20 | enouf | erm macrobat is swap listed in /etc/fstab? show me the one line |
| 21:38.54 | enouf | boha_: in /etc/rc.local? |
| 21:39.05 | boha_ | enouf, yes |
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| 21:39.19 | macrobat | /dev/sda2 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 21:39.24 | macrobat | fawlty :) |
| 21:39.34 | enouf | boha_: ls -l /etc/init.d/rc.local ; ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S99rc* |
| 21:39.47 | enouf | macrobat: haha |
| 21:40.05 | macrobat | fun |
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| 21:40.29 | enouf | macrobat: did you see my swap line just now? |
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| 21:40.44 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:41.00 | boha_ | enouf, ok i did it. What actually did that commands ? |
| 21:41.05 | macrobat | i have 4 debian installations on this system and tried to install winxp, i may have borked it |
| 21:41.10 | boha_ | do* |
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| 21:41.20 | enouf | boha_: i'm trying to see if those files exist |
| 21:41.31 | boha_ | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 788 2008-08-12 16:20 /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 21:41.38 | boha_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2009-06-23 23:00 /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local |
| 21:41.45 | boha_ | this was the output |
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| 21:41.46 | enouf | bravo boha_ |
| 21:41.49 | enouf | good |
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| 21:42.28 | macrobat | did i just swapon my / ? |
| 21:42.50 | simNIX | boha_, FWIW for next time maybe look at CloneZilla or simulair; that way I always have an image of my os on another box |
| 21:42.51 | macrobat | labels are wrong too |
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| 21:43.09 | enouf | boha_: try it a) appending sudo in front (make sure your user is setup to use sudo without passwd), and/or b) try it without the * in there - just do one file 1st |
| 21:43.20 | simNIX | sorry |
| 21:43.26 | simNIX | type; ment macrobat |
| 21:43.37 | enouf | macrobat: ... that's why i did not mention a /dev/nameX :-/ |
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| 21:44.22 | boha_ | enouf, is that good idea to use sudo without password ? |
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| 21:45.10 | enouf | macrobat: the file command and the blkid command already showed that swap is indeed on /dev/sda2, the /etc/fstab entry is wrong (for whatever reason) |
| 21:45.14 | macrobat | i will have to clean this up. i installed a lenny yesterday. when i booted this installation lenny was mounted on /home |
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| 21:45.33 | enouf | boha_: not a problem, in general, /msg dpkg sudoers |
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| 21:46.07 | enouf | boha_: i have to go afk for a few minutes - bbl |
| 21:46.44 | boha_ | ok thanks |
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| 21:48.17 | Black_Phantom | Hello, is there any way of connecting a Nokia phone to linux to exchange data ( photos, mp3s etc.) |
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| 21:48.46 | zinx | Black_Phantom: bitpim |
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| 21:49.32 | Black_Phantom | zinx, I will try it out in a moment, thanks ! |
| 21:50.00 | tuv_ | what is a photo library manager suitable for sharing a library (with tags) across multiple machines? |
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| 21:57.09 | Vonoff | hey, i'm currently seting up a diskless node setup in vmware (for learning and testing purpose) and wonder if it'd be possible to have a linux server be the boot server for linux and windows nodes? |
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| 22:00.09 | s14ck | is away: Estoy ocupado |
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| 22:00.41 | Black_Phantom | zinx, too bad bitpim doesnt support Nokia :/ |
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| 22:01.17 | enouf | boha_: actually, does the command work if you run it manually? (you'll need root, or sudo sh -c 'command ...') |
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| 22:01.50 | boha_ | enouf, i have to do: su |
| 22:01.54 | boha_ | and then the command |
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| 22:02.04 | boha_ | sudo returns access denied |
| 22:02.15 | enouf | su, gives you root - do 'whoami' after you su |
| 22:02.22 | enouf | or id |
| 22:02.25 | macrobat | seems /dev/sda2 == /dev/sda1 How can I separate them? |
| 22:02.44 | enouf | macrobat: use file -s /dev/name to see what FS is on which |
| 22:03.26 | enouf | macrobat: /etc/fstab should be in order, and so should /boot/grub/menu.lst and your actual initrd for that matter |
| 22:03.47 | boha_ | enouf, yes root |
| 22:03.49 | enouf | macrobat: perhaps your BIOS (boot) disk order? |
| 22:04.21 | enouf | (and/or device.map if you reinstall grub (or update-grub)) |
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| 22:05.03 | macrobat | i cant change order in bios. i also have grub problems |
| 22:05.05 | enouf | macrobat: the symlinks in /dev/disk/by-* can be removed and you can create your own |
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| 22:05.25 | eptalon | heyas |
| 22:05.36 | enouf | macrobat: also mv /etc/blkid.tab out of the way for now - but udev repopulates /dev upon every boot |
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| 22:05.49 | eptalon | where would I find the guest additions iso for the virtualbox debian package? |
| 22:06.03 | enouf | !vbox |
| 22:06.03 | dpkg | it has been said that virtualbox is a virtual machine solution. VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) is available for Lenny and as a backport for Etch. Ask me about <vbox-install lenny>, <vbox-install etch>, <vbox-install squeeze>. http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ http://www.virtualbox.org/ #vbox on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 22:06.49 | macrobat | im afraid to reboot :) |
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| 22:07.10 | adb | so don't |
| 22:07.14 | enouf | macrobat: i'd be :-P -- pastebin output of /msg dpkg walot |
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| 22:07.32 | macrobat | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.42 | tata | hi guys |
| 22:07.47 | enouf | no leading space |
| 22:07.53 | tata | can noobs get help here |
| 22:07.54 | tata | ? |
| 22:07.58 | enouf | macrobat: pgrep udevd |
| 22:08.09 | adb | tata: just ask |
| 22:08.58 | tata | im new to linux, and id like to install xfce, but i cant get it to work |
| 22:09.17 | eptalon | enouf: thanks. |
| 22:09.19 | tata | right now i have gnome |
| 22:09.22 | adb | !xfce |
| 22:09.22 | simNIX | tata, is it already installed ? |
| 22:09.22 | dpkg | Xfce is a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. To install, ask me about <install xfce>. Squeeze users: Missing icons in menu? See bug #526171 in the <BTS>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce http://www.xfce.org/ #xfce on irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:09.28 | adb | tata: ^^ |
| 22:09.50 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:10.04 | adb | night |
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| 22:10.35 | tata | adb: oh nice |
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| 22:11.03 | tata | simNIX, yes |
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| 22:11.54 | enouf | tata: run update-alternatives --config xfce<tab><tab> and configure it to be default, if using GDM, run gdmsetup |
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| 22:12.31 | enouf | tata: run update-alternatives --config x-{session,window}-manager too (each separately) |
| 22:12.59 | adb | enouf: bash: run: command not found |
| 22:13.06 | enouf | haha |
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| 22:13.17 | enouf | tata: also; /msg dpkg ask |
| 22:15.18 | enouf | tata: if tab-completion is not yet working, uncomment the 3 related lines from within your /home/<username>/.bashrc file .. look for the 1st line is; if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; the |
| 22:15.28 | enouf | er s/the/then/ |
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| 22:16.05 | enouf | tata: then either a) ,ogout/login that user entirely or b) run "source ~/.bashrc" |
| 22:16.19 | enouf | s,ogout/logout/ |
| 22:16.24 | enouf | s/,ogout/logout/ |
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| 22:16.59 | eptalon | ogging out? |
| 22:17.00 | bododo | hi folks! :) |
| 22:17.09 | enouf | !eggosmite me |
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| 22:17.13 | tata | ok immag o try, thanks :) |
| 22:17.37 | enouf | tata: you need root privs to run "update-alternatives..." |
| 22:17.39 | bododo | I need some help with wifi. Whatever I do, I cant get it to work with static IP |
| 22:17.46 | enouf | well, to alter any of it |
| 22:17.49 | macrobat | walot: http://pastebin.com/m7ec9148d |
| 22:17.50 | bododo | is it doable? or am I doing it wrong? |
| 22:18.08 | enouf | !wifi |
| 22:18.09 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 22:18.21 | enouf | see that very last URL bododo |
| 22:18.29 | bododo | enouf: it's actually working with dhcp |
| 22:18.37 | enouf | bododo: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 22:19.02 | bododo | thanks enouf ! can I post my /etc/networks/interface? |
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| 22:19.22 | enouf | i think you need ESSID and such, not to mention you might need to add a line for your gateway address |
| 22:19.26 | enouf | ? |
| 22:19.33 | enouf | !pastebin |
| 22:19.33 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 22:20.08 | enouf | bododo: the debian-reference pkg also goes into details concerning Network settings |
| 22:20.16 | bododo | enouf: sure! here it is: http://pastebin.com/m34a33613 |
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| 22:20.43 | enouf | bododo: just so you know, i suck at wifi - hopefully others will look and chime in ;0 |
| 22:21.05 | bododo | :) thanks anyway! I hope someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong |
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| 22:21.32 | bododo | how do you use wifi? (if you're using it) |
| 22:21.42 | adb | bododo: choose a different address , not same as eth0 : address 192.168.1.55 |
| 22:21.44 | bododo | my router's dhcp sucks |
| 22:22.07 | enouf | bododo: fwiw, just in case it's an issue of horse-before-the-cart; /msg dpkg bootlogd |
| 22:22.15 | bododo | adb: ok, but actually I did before and it doesn't work |
| 22:22.21 | enouf | bododo: and dmesg as well can provide some clues/info |
| 22:22.40 | adb | bododo: just tried it and is ok |
| 22:22.46 | bododo | enouf: it loooks like the interface is configured but i can't ping the router |
| 22:22.51 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.57 | adb | #wireless-essid mywifi |
| 22:23.06 | enouf | bododo: try not using the x.x.1.x subnet - many routers reserve that range if used in certain ways |
| 22:23.08 | adb | bododo: ^^ |
| 22:23.29 | bododo | abd: I comment them? |
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| 22:23.37 | bododo | enouf: hum... |
| 22:23.50 | adb | bododo: yes comment them |
| 22:23.59 | bododo | adb: you tried my config with your box? |
| 22:24.01 | enouf | bododo: (as far as your router's DHCP sucking) |
| 22:24.53 | bododo | enouf: yes, but it works after many re-tries |
| 22:24.59 | enouf | bododo: but yeah, as adb points out, at the least, don't give it the same addy as eth0 |
| 22:25.25 | bododo | ok, but actually i'm using only one of them at a time |
| 22:25.42 | bododo | wifi at home, wired in the office |
| 22:25.55 | enouf | there's some "domain-..." something IIRC, that might need to be added, concering gateways .. i forget - man interfaces, and such look for the section about manual config |
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| 22:26.23 | enouf | bododo: still .. it might mess with udev rules and such, or other things |
| 22:26.31 | bododo | entaro: think it's wireless-tools but adb just told me to comment it |
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| 22:26.46 | bododo | sorry entaro I meant enouf :) |
| 22:26.58 | enouf | bododo: especially, if you haven't rebooted in between switching; or at;least rstarted networking |
| 22:27.07 | adb | bododo: http://pastebin.com/m2f130b17 |
| 22:27.28 | enouf | bododo: there's many things to try - cause i just don't know - try them all .. see what happens |
| 22:27.47 | gothenburg | :-D |
| 22:27.54 | enouf | bododo: are you using WEP or WPA/WPA2 as well? |
| 22:27.56 | gothenburg | I love WordPress |
| 22:27.58 | bododo | enouf: thanks adb - enouf ok :) |
| 22:28.03 | adb | bododo: http://pastebin.com/mf0bd347 |
| 22:28.06 | enouf | !wpasupplicant |
| 22:28.06 | dpkg | hmm... wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian Lenny, Etch and Squeeze in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (esp. "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Lenny's Debian Installer does not support WPA. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 22:28.06 | bododo | enouf: nothing |
| 22:28.09 | enouf | ok |
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| 22:29.20 | Lish | guys in /usr/src/ i have 2.6.29 , and now am using 2.6.26-1-686 .. if i go to the directory /usr/src/2.6.29/ and i use make uninstall not problem right? they gonna uninstall only the 2.6.29 right? |
| 22:29.47 | bododo | will restart networking. brb :) |
| 22:30.06 | RaymondX | how do you disable the email requisites in wordpress? |
| 22:30.22 | gothenburg | RaymondX: in settings |
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| 22:30.29 | |niko| | Is there a place I can get linux-libre .debs for amd64? |
| 22:30.38 | enouf | requisites? or requests? |
| 22:30.48 | gothenburg | RaymondX: there is a #wordpress channel |
| 22:31.13 | enouf | |niko|: using a chroot env? |
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| 22:31.46 | enouf | |niko|: sorry - i thought i read it as "Is there a place I can *link* ..." my bad |
| 22:31.52 | |niko| | enouf: no chroot involved.... I have sid with 2.6.26 right now |
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| 22:32.03 | |niko| | I want linux-libre 2.6.30 |
| 22:32.06 | |niko| | for amd64 |
| 22:32.19 | enouf | !listvals linux-libre |
| 22:32.21 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'linux-libre' by value (1): linux-libre. |
| 22:32.27 | enouf | !linux-libre |
| 22:32.27 | dpkg | Linux-libre is a project producing modified Linux kernel sources with <non-free> components removed. http://fsfla.org/svnwiki/selibre/linux-libre/ See also <libre>. |
| 22:32.36 | RaymondX | anyone has experience using the libretto download manager? |
| 22:32.42 | enouf | !vrms |
| 22:32.42 | dpkg | hmm... vrms is The Virtual Richard M. Stallman for Debian GNU/Linux. Good for sniffing out those pesky <non-free> software. Be careful, vrms doesn't forget... apt-get install vrms, or now more accurate than the real rms in some situations such as gdb-doc and emacs21-doc :) |
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| 22:34.29 | enouf | i see - the linux-libre stuff is more concerned about what is non-free within the kernel itself (firmware and such i suppose) |
| 22:35.25 | |niko| | vrms isn't perfect either. |
| 22:35.25 | RaymondX | do you know of any server app that runs wget? |
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| 22:35.33 | |niko| | It's not more accurate than rms |
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| 22:35.43 | nkuttler | RaymondX: hm? |
| 22:35.44 | RaymondX | so ican download files to a remote server |
| 22:35.45 | enouf | !list repos |
| 22:35.53 | |niko| | It doesn't care about tainted Linux kernels with non-free firmware BLOBs, but does care about CC_BY-SA licensed stuff |
| 22:36.05 | |niko| | Which is entirely backwards I think. |
| 22:36.18 | enouf | ofcourse not, it's concerned with what's in the non-free section of debian mirrors |
| 22:36.57 | enouf | which are .debs (and sources), the kernel is always in 'main' , IINM |
| 22:38.05 | enouf | |niko|: it's not a question of _accuracy_ , they each do different things |
| 22:38.06 | RaymondX | just like libretto but more reliable |
| 22:38.08 | |niko| | The only time the DFSG is broken... =/ |
| 22:38.31 | |niko| | Ideally linux-libre could at least be packaged in Debian side-by-side |
| 22:38.32 | enouf | |niko|: well, how is one to install debian without a kernel? |
| 22:38.35 | |niko| | So people can choose. |
| 22:38.52 | |niko| | enouf: I'm not saying without a kernel. I'm saying offering Linux-libre makes the most sense. |
| 22:39.06 | |niko| | If an upstream application has non-free bits in it, Debian always removes them. |
| 22:39.09 | |niko| | Or puts them in non-free |
| 22:39.10 | enouf | but, there was some discussion, IIRC, about maintaining forked kernels, for non-free, and such .. but bah -- nobody wants the work |
| 22:39.11 | |niko| | Like Firefox |
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| 22:39.39 | enouf | there's the whole Security thing too that would need duplication for each fork |
| 22:39.42 | |niko| | Quite a poor reason for breaking teh DFSG |
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| 22:40.20 | |niko| | Anyway I mostly would like amd64 debs of Linux-libre, too bad there are only i386 ones linked from the FSFLA website |
| 22:40.23 | enouf | |niko|: this discussion is better left to debian-dev (*) mailing lists or channels, not here really |
| 22:40.52 | enouf | go bother them - tell them to generate a amd64/x86_64 one |
| 22:46.10 | |niko| | enouf: Okay. Unfortunately there isn't even an i386 one |
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| 22:46.43 | bododo | hi again! :) |
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| 22:47.06 | bododo | adb enouf : didn't work :( |
| 22:47.44 | bododo | whe I restart networking, it restarts but the interfaces don't have IPs when I do ifconfig |
| 22:48.14 | bododo | is it possible that the router doesn't understand anything than dhcp. |
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| 22:48.27 | adb | bododo: paste interfaces again |
| 22:49.05 | adb | bododo: for static router doesn't count |
| 22:49.27 | enouf | bododo: when you do that - check with outputs of "ls -l /sys/class/net" "dmesg | tail" "route" "arp" etc |
| 22:49.27 | bododo | adb: ok :) |
| 22:49.38 | enouf | even ifconfig -a |
| 22:49.54 | bododo | oh btw, I read somewhere about route, but what's it? do I need it? |
| 22:50.06 | enouf | it's a command |
| 22:50.09 | enouf | man route |
| 22:50.13 | bododo | enouf: they're displayed both eth0 and wlan0 but don't have ip |
| 22:50.19 | bododo | duh :) |
| 22:50.27 | enouf | you could set the default route with it, or use ip |
| 22:50.40 | enouf | dmesg should tell you things |
| 22:51.14 | enouf | bododo: and just to check - /msg dpkg 70 |
| 22:51.37 | enouf | make sure those entries are correct (if not commented out) |
| 22:51.38 | bododo | thanks again! :) |
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| 22:52.16 | bododo | adb: here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/m5eea6fce |
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| 22:54.33 | Lycurgus | do iceweasel and whatsits work any better in lenny than they did in etch? |
| 22:54.33 | johnf | I'm trying to move from emeritus back to DD. I've emailed da-manager twice in the last year and emailed frontdesk a few weeks back. Any ideas on my next move? |
| 22:54.33 | bododo | enouf: the demsg with tail will show me the last msg when I used dhcp right? |
| 22:54.33 | enouf | Lycurgus: IW works fine for me in sid :-p |
| 22:54.33 | zinx | Lycurgus: are you having a problem with it? |
| 22:54.33 | Lycurgus | whacks bododo. |
| 22:54.34 | dondelelcaro | johnf: mail Ganneff again; he usually responds fairly rapidly |
| 22:54.34 | zinx | Lycurgus: perhaps you should describe your problem so it can be solved |
| 22:54.34 | enouf | bododo: yes .. it's a live kernel ring buffer output |
| 22:54.47 | Lycurgus | enouf, no but I had a lot of problems and had to get original distros of both Seamonkey and Firefox for etch. |
| 22:54.47 | enouf | bododo: as is /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog thought those two vary slightly in what the diffs are |
| 22:54.59 | bododo | enouf: hum... so I guess I'll have to do something like dmesgà grep wlan0? |
| 22:55.25 | enouf | bododo: or dmesg | less or dmesg | tail -n 50 or so |
| 22:55.25 | Lycurgus | what's the other ice vermin name? |
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| 22:56.39 | enouf | bododo: if you cannotget it resolved here - do more reading, try ##linux and ##networking perhaps |
| 22:56.53 | zinx | Lycurgus: there are several |
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| 22:57.13 | zinx | Lycurgus: if you're talking about the email app, it's icedove |
| 22:57.26 | Lycurgus | icemonkey iirc |
| 22:57.28 | enouf | then there's iceape? |
| 22:57.32 | MadMoney | apt-get install IE6 |
| 22:57.36 | zinx | enouf: yes |
| 22:57.39 | MadMoney | Damn it, no installation candidate. |
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| 22:57.52 | bododo | enouf: ok, thanks a bunch again! :) I'm trying, but what really puzzles me is that the restarting (of networking) goes really fast but looks like nothing actually happens. No IP affected to ifaces |
| 22:58.00 | Lycurgus | iceape, thx |
| 22:58.00 | enouf | MadMoney: fedora makes a way to install that crud - go there - now :-P |
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| 22:58.11 | zinx | and iceowl |
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| 22:58.27 | adb | bododo: missing auto eth0 and auto wlan0 |
| 22:58.29 | enouf | bododo: are you using /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
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| 22:58.41 | bododo | enouf: yes |
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| 22:58.58 | bododo | adb: I though they're there to be started automatically |
| 22:58.59 | enouf | bododo: try ifconfig eth0 down ; ifconfig wlan down ; then restart it |
| 22:59.07 | enouf | er wlan0 |
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| 22:59.11 | bododo | so, I'll have to add them? |
| 22:59.11 | bododo | oh wait... |
| 22:59.22 | bododo | i'm an idiot. official |
| 22:59.40 | adb | MadMoney: haha : apt-get install IE6 |
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| 22:59.44 | bododo | that's what "auto" is for. bring 'em up when I restart networking, right? |
| 22:59.52 | enouf | yes |
| 23:00.09 | ajavid | automatically |
| 23:00.19 | enouf | basically auto ifup |
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| 23:00.31 | bododo | aha! |
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| 23:00.39 | bododo | retrying again! :) |
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| 23:02.16 | Lycurgus | what's the file that determines what repo's apt-get et. al. look at? |
| 23:02.26 | adb | bododo: paste commands and output |
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| 23:02.39 | enouf | Lycurgus: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 23:02.42 | wizl | which ftp server do u recommend? |
| 23:02.47 | Lycurgus | enouf, thx |
| 23:03.01 | enouf | !vsftpd |
| 23:03.01 | dpkg | somebody said vsftpd was the "Very Secure FTP Daemon", a GPL licensed FTP server for UNIX systems, including Linux. Frequently Asked Questions: ftp://vsftpd.beasts.org/users/cevans/untar/vsftpd-2.1.0/FAQ . http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ #vsftpd on irc.freenode.net. See also <ftpd>. |
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| 23:03.34 | adb | ftp must day |
| 23:03.53 | adb | err day |
| 23:03.56 | wizl | ty |
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| 23:04.45 | epsilon | wizl: depends what you want to do |
| 23:05.14 | wizl | to be able to login and upload files :P |
| 23:05.17 | wizl | the basics. |
| 23:06.05 | epsilon | system users only? |
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| 23:06.14 | enouf | adb: die! :-p |
| 23:06.24 | adb | yeah , thx |
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| 23:08.20 | adb | forgot that word , better no ? |
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| 23:12.49 | Devrethman | Anybody here know of like, a n00b's guide to setting up a mail server? |
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| 23:14.10 | adb | n00b's and mail server are incompatible ? |
| 23:14.21 | Devrethman | lol |
| 23:14.31 | Devrethman | I'm not a total noob |
| 23:14.46 | Devrethman | I've just never done anything with mail/mailservers, and I want one |
| 23:15.44 | adb | i'm n00b's and mail server incompatible |
| 23:15.56 | enouf | Devrethman: tasksel --task-packages mail-server ; then see /usr/share/docs/<packagename> for each package it installs, should you want to install all that |
| 23:16.16 | Devrethman | enouF: Thanks |
| 23:16.20 | enouf | Devrethman: see the exim4 docs as well ; dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 23:16.52 | enouf | Devrethman: exim4 is your MTA, though you could choose a diff one, it's not recommended, especially for novices |
| 23:17.03 | enouf | !mta |
| 23:17.03 | dpkg | somebody said mta was Mail Transfer Agent: a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/lib/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>. |
| 23:17.48 | enouf | Devrethman: debian.administration.org and wiki.debian.org for articles |
| 23:18.01 | enouf | er debian-administration.org Devrethman |
| 23:18.16 | adb | !dao |
| 23:18.16 | dpkg | from memory, dao is Disc At Once: burns a disc all at once, not one track at a time, lets you set the gap between songs (track at once is always 2 seconds), some data CD's won't burn without DAO (Kodak CDs, Macinosh CDs, CD-XA, VCD, etc.). Data Access Objects: Database engine which uses SQL, commonly used in Visual Basic, see RDO. |
| 23:18.57 | adb | err not for debian.administration.org .. |
| 23:18.57 | Devrethman | lol |
| 23:19.31 | Vonoff | hey, anyone can help me with a little nfs issue? i have exported the following "/nfsroot 192.168.99.2(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_all_squash)" and started nfs-kernel-server, checking with showmount --all doesn't show it as being exported |
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| 23:21.41 | adb | dmesg |tail , may help |
| 23:21.46 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps I found out why my ssh couldn't use a fqdn to resolve to a ip |
| 23:21.53 | enouf | !listvals debian-administration.org |
| 23:21.55 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'debian-administration.org' by value (15 of 30): apache+php ;; apt secure ;; autofs ;; debian fora ;; highmem ;; ide-scsi ;; java-package ;; kerberos installation ;; luks ;; lvm ;; preseed ;; pxe ;; raid-resizing ;; rcconf ;; vnc2swf. |
| 23:21.55 | bbelt16ag | I had avahi-daemon. daemon started, |
| 23:22.05 | bbelt16ag | going to go see if I can configure it or smething.. |
| 23:22.41 | enouf | bbelt16ag: i use /msg dpkg rcconf (to toggle startup services on/off) or just --purge remove avahi-daemon |
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| 23:24.17 | bbelt16ag | trying to understand what it does |
| 23:24.24 | enouf | Vonoff: not sure, perhaps check whatever is in /etc/default/nfs* |
| 23:24.27 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:24.33 | enouf | man avahi-daemon |
| 23:24.37 | enouf | !avahi |
| 23:24.37 | dpkg | i heard avahi is a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network. This means that you can plug your laptop or computer into a network and instantly be able to view other people who you can chat with, find printers to print to or find files being shared. |
| 23:24.39 | bbelt16ag | I did |
| 23:24.49 | enouf | bbelt16ag: it's like zeroconf |
| 23:24.53 | enouf | !zeroconf |
| 23:24.54 | dpkg | Zeroconf or Zero Configuration Networking is a set of techniques that automatically create a usable IP network without configuration or special servers. This allows unknowledgeable users to connect computers, networked printers, and other items together and expect them to work automatically. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf |
| 23:25.01 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 23:25.16 | bbelt16ag | sounds like a networ engineers worst nightmare |
| 23:25.18 | enouf | it doles out a 169.254.x.x IP in most cases, IINM |
| 23:25.24 | bbelt16ag | stuff auto configing and messing up a nice network |
| 23:25.27 | enouf | yes |
| 23:25.31 | bbelt16ag | hehe |
| 23:26.04 | enouf | take a look at netatalk for some real scary Apple stuff :-P |
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| 23:26.56 | enouf | !listvals libnss |
| 23:26.58 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'libnss' by value returned no results. |
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| 23:27.06 | enouf | !listvals libmdns |
| 23:27.08 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'libmdns' by value returned no results. |
| 23:27.12 | enouf | grah |
| 23:27.25 | Devrethman | isn't that apple's uber-zeroconf service? |
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| 23:27.34 | enouf | libnss-mdns: /usr/share/doc/libnss-mdns/README.htm |
| 23:27.36 | enouf | there |
| 23:27.50 | enouf | yeah - like Bonjour was |
| 23:29.28 | enouf | er s/htm/html |
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| 23:29.31 | enouf | wow, that's some old shit in that file .. ugh |
| 23:29.31 | enouf | and i have the sid version here |
| 23:29.31 | twinkle | +i |
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| 23:33.57 | bbelt16ag | there we go |
| 23:34.03 | bbelt16ag | ty for the help peeps |
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| 23:46.41 | bjk | how can i list installed packages from a certain debian version? like testing or unstable? |
| 23:47.13 | nkuttler | bjk: apt-show-versions |
| 23:47.38 | Vonoff | i'm not getting it, i even rebooted the system already, started portmap, nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server again, showmount --all still doesn't show anything, not even after manually exportfs -a |
| 23:47.50 | bjk | nkuttler, thanks |
| 23:48.51 | Black_Phantom | Hello, does anybody know a software for linux which extracts Audio from a video ? for example convert .avi to .mp3 |
| 23:49.16 | enouf | mplayer/mencoder? |
| 23:49.28 | pl4yer0ne | ffmpeg |
| 23:49.41 | enouf | -vo null -ao <options> |
| 23:50.02 | sepult | which is better kde-i18n or kde-l10n ? |
| 23:50.15 | Black_Phantom | pl4yer0ne, thanks I will try it out |
| 23:50.22 | enouf | the former is older? |
| 23:51.01 | pl4yer0ne | heh I love that I got thanked when enouf fully gave the command line |
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| 23:55.53 | Mellow | hi! |
| 23:56.15 | Mellow | is there any recommended sources.list for Debian Lenny which will be used as a desktop "fun and multimedia PC" ? |
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| 23:56.41 | Mellow | what means a sources.list including non free stuff as well as multimedia (codecs..) |
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| 23:56.53 | reptile | hi |
| 23:57.27 | jetscreamer | !dmm |
| 23:57.28 | dpkg | [dmm] Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm etch> <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
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| 23:57.46 | jetscreamer | !tell Mellow -about dmm lenny |
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| 23:57.56 | jetscreamer | !tell Mellow -about non-free |
| 23:58.03 | Mellow | jetscreamer: great, thank you :) |
| 23:58.06 | jetscreamer | np |
| 23:58.15 | reptile | I see athk5 under lsmod. And Debian even asked me upon installation if i wanted wlan0 as my primary network interface. why does iwlist wlan0 scanning say ---> wlan0 No scan results ? Im 5 feet from the router that my dads laptop can reach (therefor it's not the router). |
| 23:58.20 | jetscreamer | contrib non-free |
| 23:59.01 | jetscreamer | reptile: i don't know much but just because the driver is loaded doesn't mean it's set up to connect |
| 23:59.15 | jetscreamer | others know a lot more |
| 23:59.28 | Wizzup | http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-upgrade-from-debian-etch-40-to-lenny-50.html <-- Would that be a safe way to upgrade from etch to lenny? |
| 23:59.49 | jetscreamer | !etch->lenny |
| 23:59.58 | jetscreamer | hmm |
