| 00:00.23 | JTran | Gun_Smoke: I didn't install gdm |
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| 00:00.29 | Gun_Smoke | ahh.. |
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| 00:02.05 | JTran | I've installed many times in the past on different boxes and never had this problem before |
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| 00:02.26 | n-iCe | hello |
| 00:02.26 | envirocbr | jelly-home: I am thinking of FreeBSD or Opensolaris at this point |
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| 00:03.10 | envirocbr | I deal with FreeBSD all day long at rootbsd |
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| 00:03.16 | envirocbr | so maybe opensolaris |
| 00:03.36 | envirocbr | I am interested in zfs, I hear great things about it |
| 00:03.55 | JTran | Gun_Smoke: Were there any changes dealing with login in the past month? |
| 00:04.07 | jelly-home | envirocbr: zfs with just two disks? |
| 00:04.11 | Gun_Smoke | any recommendations on going with either 32bit and bigmem or 64bit? |
| 00:04.15 | envirocbr | jelly-home: Why not |
| 00:05.28 | envirocbr | Happy Meal? |
| 00:05.36 | jelly-home | Gun_Smoke: if unsure, go with 32bit |
| 00:05.36 | envirocbr | that is weird listing for Ethernet Device |
| 00:05.48 | iaindalton | enouf: thanks for pointing me to equivs. |
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| 00:09.23 | Gun_Smoke | jelly-home: well I could go either way, I was more less wondering if only 4G with the bigmem had some extra overhead or something |
| 00:09.41 | Gun_Smoke | JTran: none that I'm aware of. Stable or testing? |
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| 00:11.27 | JTran | Testing |
| 00:11.51 | jelly-home | Gun_Smoke: there's also a amd64 (64bit) kernel in the 32bit distro |
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| 00:12.11 | ice799 | Hi I am using debian lenny and I just installed a package from apt. How can I figure out where the files were placed and what they are called? |
| 00:12.26 | ice799 | I can't remember how to tell apt to output the files in an apt package. |
| 00:12.28 | ice799 | Any hints? |
| 00:12.45 | jelly-home | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-amd64 --arch i386 |
| 00:12.45 | judd | jelly-home: linux-image-2.6-amd64 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 squeeze: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 sid: 2.6.30+20 |
| 00:14.02 | Gun_Smoke | jelly-home: that's the first I've heard of that. So you run a 64bit kernel with everything chrooted or something? |
| 00:15.01 | jelly-home | Gun_Smoke: no, you just have a 64bit kernel and everything else is 32bit |
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| 00:16.06 | adb | dpkg: tell ice799 about apt |
| 00:16.18 | adb | dpkg: tell ice799 about selftell |
| 00:16.53 | Gun_Smoke | jelly-home: odd.. |
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| 00:18.44 | stickboy_ | adb thanks, that worked |
| 00:18.59 | adb | np |
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| 00:19.35 | jelly-home | Gun_Smoke: dunno, sparc64 has always worked that way |
| 00:20.22 | Gun_Smoke | jelly-home: well I'll give it a go.. |
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| 00:21.29 | dwschool | where can i get a script for email to fax gateway for hylafax |
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| 00:22.01 | gasull | Hi all. My hard disk has 100 GB, about half of them in use. When I use rdiff-backup for backing up /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt and /srv it takes more than 24 hours to complete the backup to an external hard drive. Is this normal? Thanks. |
| 00:22.59 | jelly-home | gasull: usb connected external drive? |
| 00:23.11 | gasull | jelly-home: yes |
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| 00:23.29 | jelly-home | gasull: does normal copying of a large file take a long time as well? |
| 00:24.07 | gasull | jelly-home: yes I think so |
| 00:24.40 | gasull | jelly-home: but I bought my external HD less than a year ago. Shouldn't it be faster? |
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| 00:25.36 | stickboy | adb guess i spoke too soon :( |
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| 00:25.48 | jelly-home | gasull: a) usb is slow, can't do more than 20-30 MB/s b) you might be using suboptimal mount options for the external filesystem |
| 00:26.08 | jelly-home | gasull: in particular, make sure there is no "sync" option used |
| 00:26.44 | gasull | jelly-home: where do I check the thing about the sync option, in the rdiff-backup parameters? |
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| 00:28.30 | gasull | jelly-home: I don't know if you mean some mount option in fstab |
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| 00:31.11 | under | How, I installaed Compiz but when I log in, it doesn't start, I have to run it manually. Solutions? |
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| 00:32.10 | dwschool | where/how do i edit exim4 configuration file |
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| 00:32.10 | adb | under: try /j #Compiz |
| 00:32.41 | under | adb, the program can be compiz or firefox, it's the same thing. |
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| 00:34.23 | adb | under: it's a non sense to me |
| 00:35.48 | abrotman | dwschool: you do know that exim comes with documentation right? |
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| 00:37.24 | jelly-home | gasull: when the filesystem is mounted, check /proc/mounts line for it; if you're mounting it via fstab the sync option shouldn't get used by default so you should be ok |
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| 00:42.18 | gasull | jelly-home: it isn't mounted via fstab, and this is the line in /proc/mounts: /dev/sdb1 /media/disk ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev,errors=continue,data=ordered 0 0 . I don't think it should be in fstab b/c it isn't always mounted. My PC is a laptop. The /proc/mounts line looks fine. Isn't it? |
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| 00:45.40 | luch | how do i change exim4 configuration in debian |
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| 00:46.12 | adb | change what ? |
| 00:46.18 | n-iCe | ext3 for ext4 I guess |
| 00:46.26 | luch | config file stuff |
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| 00:46.36 | adb | as ? |
| 00:47.05 | luch | i want to change pipe setting for script executaion |
| 00:47.20 | abrotman | luch: why did you change your nick ? |
| 00:47.27 | luch | i didn't |
| 00:47.35 | luch | i got disconnected |
| 00:48.28 | luch | address_pipe: |
| 00:48.28 | luch | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.28 | luch | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:48.34 | luch | i want to change this |
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| 00:50.01 | luch | i can't seem to get it to execute my script and i can't find nothing in the log file - i know my forward file is working becuase the email dissapears |
| 00:50.48 | abrotman | maybe your script is failing? |
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| 00:51.52 | luch | abrotman: assume that - when i manually run it - i have a piece of code that rights to a log file - it works manually but not with the email forwarder |
| 00:52.00 | abrotman | writes ? |
| 00:52.10 | abrotman | luch: so where is the email going ? |
| 00:52.15 | luch | no idea |
| 00:52.39 | luch | maybe into a deep black hole |
| 00:52.47 | luch | nothing in mail logs either |
| 00:53.08 | abrotman | what is your .forward? what is the script? |
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| 00:55.35 | luch | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m4afbb1b5 |
| 00:55.46 | luch | abrotman: ./forward is at the bottom |
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| 00:57.22 | abrotman | luch: does it have permission to write to the log ? |
| 00:57.40 | SQlvpapir | what tool would you guys use to migrate to a new disk? I'm looking for something very flexible, preferably so I can pick what partition goes where etc. |
| 00:57.41 | xiangfu | Hi I want upload a package to Debian. but I got a warining "native-package-with-dash-version" |
| 00:58.05 | xiangfu | now the version is "1.5-2.1" what is the version number should be.?? thanks |
| 00:58.09 | abrotman | also notes that there is a /var/spool/hylafax/bin/ |
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| 00:58.13 | abrotman | or something like that |
| 00:58.24 | SQlvpapir | xiangfu: check out #debian-mentors on OFTC |
| 00:58.40 | xiangfu | ok. thanks SQlvpapir. |
| 00:59.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh... I just "installed" (i.e. unpacked the rpm, don't have root there) x11vnc on a redhad box - started it and connected to it with vncviewer from the debian box.... and I get no window |
| 01:00.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | funny thing - if I ssh -X into the same debian box, I can use vncviewer :0 and I get the vnc-window from the remote machine |
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| 01:01.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | so is this some version mismatch between x11vnc and vncviewer (I can use the two together ok from debian machine to debian machine) |
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| 01:02.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | or is it some options-mismatch? |
| 01:02.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | are there any obvious things I should try? |
| 01:03.25 | SQlvpapir | CutMeOwnThroat: if the ports are open ? |
| 01:03.30 | luch | abrotman: yes |
| 01:03.55 | luch | i dont' think it gets executed |
| 01:04.12 | abrotman | don't think what does? |
| 01:04.20 | jpinx | I started a dist-upgrade and the connection bust while downloading - does that mean I'm unchanged of partially changed? |
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| 01:04.30 | abrotman | while downloading, no |
| 01:04.30 | luch | abrotman: the script |
| 01:04.45 | abrotman | luch: which script |
| 01:04.45 | jpinx | abrotman: thanks - that's what i was hoping;) |
| 01:04.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | SQlvpapir, I do ssh tunneling (and I see the client connect - there's messages on both sides, just no window) |
| 01:04.56 | adrenaline | I have installed debian I think lenny on my P3 1G and it is very usable and actually rox |
| 01:05.40 | SQlvpapir | CutMeOwnThroat: I wouldn't know then |
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| 01:06.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's really weird... and no useful looking messages from either |
| 01:06.25 | Qew | adrenaline: yeah, I have an old laptop with a P3 1GHz processor, and it works fine with Xfce. |
| 01:06.56 | luch | email2fax.pl |
| 01:07.04 | Qew | adrenaline: * and Lenny |
| 01:07.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | SQlvpapir, http://pastebin.com/f13a99723 that's what I get on connect - does any of this looks to you like google'd turn something up? |
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| 01:09.18 | luch | abrotman: it hangs here: while ($_ = shift(@entities)) |
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| 01:10.04 | abrotman | luch: okay .. |
| 01:10.07 | abrotman | how do you know that? |
| 01:12.14 | luch | abrotman: it hangs here: my $entity = $parser->parse(\*STDIN); |
| 01:12.44 | abrotman | luch: yes, how do you know? |
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| 01:13.20 | luch | because as soon as i move my log write line below that is hangs before writing to log |
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| 01:14.31 | abrotman | so the .forward is working .. and your perl is broken? |
| 01:14.42 | luch | i would say |
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| 01:15.05 | adrenaline | Qew, I am using gnome just fine right now |
| 01:15.33 | Qew | you're a more patient man than me, then ;) |
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| 01:16.20 | stickboy_ | http://paste.debian.net/40792/ I tried using a new microcode image http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads but it's still happening (although less often) |
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| 01:17.22 | adrenaline | Qew, it is actually really usable |
| 01:17.43 | Qew | ah, that's good to know. |
| 01:17.43 | adrenaline | I am actually talking to you on a nxclient on my P3 1G |
| 01:17.56 | adrenaline | on my debian it is rather nice |
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| 01:18.11 | Qew | well, I'm not on the laptop now, just my oldish P4 2.6GHz... with Xfce ;) |
| 01:18.19 | adrenaline | Qew, thanks for the convo got to run cya soon |
| 01:18.26 | Qew | bye... enjoy debian |
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| 01:31.16 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 01:31.16 | dpkg | <ttuttle> I mean, Gentoo's cool, but I need to get on with my life for a little while (college). |
| 01:31.49 | Qew | heh |
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| 01:32.39 | sander^ | which distro is debian stable? |
| 01:32.45 | abrotman | lenny |
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| 01:35.37 | jerware | hi |
| 01:36.16 | jerware | version of the kernel does lenny come with ? |
| 01:36.24 | bike^ | .26 |
| 01:36.42 | sander^ | How long time ago since lenny was released? |
| 01:37.23 | jerware | thanx |
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| 01:37.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | !release history |
| 01:37.35 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06) Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14). The next release will be Squeeze. See also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html. |
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| 01:42.58 | MikeGuo | hi, everyone, mozilla released the firefox 3.5, and when we have firefox3.5 under debian? |
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| 01:45.46 | adb | never |
| 01:45.59 | macrobat | there will be iceweasel 3.5 when it is ready? |
| 01:46.22 | adb | i guess so |
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| 01:46.40 | MikeGuo | so, when we have iceseasel 3.5? |
| 01:46.44 | Zharf | open source software that's 'ready'? impossible! |
| 01:46.55 | andrew[andrboot] | Hi guysl i keep on getting "hung_task_timout_secs" disablies this message on my console.. and i can't browse/my main / |
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| 01:47.06 | andrew[andrboot] | ive had it randomly freezing.. fresh install of debian |
| 01:47.13 | andrew[andrboot] | thought it was acpi but i disabled that |
| 01:47.16 | anigma | where can I edit the SERVER_SIGNATURE in apache? what mod has to be enabled? |
| 01:47.20 | macrobat | im waiting for some libs to get ready so i can try the chrome browser |
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| 01:52.06 | MikeGuo | hi, why I download the debian-testing cd, and after finished install it, i found the debian said that's sid version? and I created /etc/apt/prefences, for down-upgrade, but it does not work. |
| 01:52.28 | MikeGuo | could your guys help me on that? or the debian version have some changes? |
| 01:52.38 | MikeGuo | I didn't used debian in a long time. |
| 01:53.47 | liable | testing usually says 'testing/unstable' (or similar) in debian_version. check your libc6 version to see if its sids or squeezes |
| 01:54.48 | abrotman | judd: versions libc6 |
| 01:54.49 | judd | abrotman: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-12 sid: 2.9-18 |
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| 01:54.54 | tetraedr_ | hi |
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| 01:56.57 | tetraedr_ | I've installed VirtualBox OSE (virtualbox-ose package) and I can't make it work with usb keys :( I've tried howtos with /etc/fstab (modification of /proc/bus/usb options), but that didn't help, found anouther howto on mofiication of udev's rules, but I don't have such file :( what do I do? |
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| 01:57.39 | MikeGuo | liable: my debian said: squeeze/sid |
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| 01:58.05 | abrotman | MikeGuo: that's normal .. which version of libc6 do you have? |
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| 01:58.32 | MikeGuo | abrotman: I am not sure, right now, I am in my office, so, I have to check tonight. |
| 01:58.51 | abrotman | okay .. well, come back when you can check .. so far, it all seems normal |
| 01:59.03 | MikeGuo | abrotman: thanks. |
| 01:59.07 | Craigevil | tetraedr_: use the non free version |
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| 01:59.11 | MikeGuo | that's a little confuse, |
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| 01:59.20 | MikeGuo | I think I use sid version. *^-^* |
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| 02:02.27 | tetraedr_ | Craigevil, hm, thank you, trying to find it |
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| 02:04.25 | tetraedr_ | Craigevil, I've got only OSE :( going to download from site |
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| 02:17.07 | tetraedr_ | Craigevil, thank you. installing virtualbox-3.0 helped :) |
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| 02:17.45 | fluxnuk3r | hello |
| 02:18.46 | fluxnuk3r | 874 people in here and no one talks? |
| 02:18.47 | fluxnuk3r | lol |
| 02:19.23 | streuner | lots of idlers ;-) |
| 02:19.31 | fluxnuk3r | ah. |
| 02:19.40 | fluxnuk3r | think you could help me out for a minute? |
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| 02:20.06 | streuner | !ask |
| 02:20.06 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:20.18 | fluxnuk3r | lol xD |
| 02:20.20 | fluxnuk3r | alrighty |
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| 02:21.20 | fluxnuk3r | just installed debian lenny, trying to install nvidia driver for my card. driver complains that the kernel was compiled with gcc 4.1 whereas the gcc on the system is 4.3 and refuses to install. |
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| 02:24.08 | `ns` | debian/testing ... I cannot get gmerlin to run. Installs ok from synaptic ... when run from an xterm it just gives 'Illegal instruction' and back to the command line. Any suggestions on what to try ? |
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| 02:25.26 | streuner | fluxnuk3r: /msg dpkg nvidia and read wike about |
| 02:25.38 | streuner | fluxnuk3r: s/wike/wiki/ |
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| 02:26.10 | simonrvn | `ns`: something else, and check BTS |
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| 02:27.14 | malchias | I see that ubuntu has a paid support. Does just debian have something similar that is official or can anyone recommend a monthly / hourly helper to setup and explain /document what was done for a web/ssh/mysql server? |
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| 02:27.29 | stickboy_ | anyone know anything about iwlagn: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x82000000. error? I've been searching around and related errors seem to be unfixed for over a year. Using Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG and lenny, thanks. |
| 02:27.43 | `ns` | heheh, thanks simonrvn . Looks like I would need to give a bug report fore BTS to show one :) |
| 02:28.02 | anigma | from where do I change the SERVER_SIGNATURE in apache? |
| 02:28.08 | anigma | can't seem to find it in apache2.conf |
| 02:28.21 | fluxnuk3r | streuner: sorry, didnt really follow that.. |
| 02:28.32 | Qew | fluxnuk3r: install gcc-4.1 and then, prior to building, enter export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 The change isn't permanent. |
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| 02:28.43 | anigma | I just wanna change it to 'Min' so that the whole server signature does not show.. |
| 02:28.46 | adb | anigma: ask #apache |
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| 02:29.18 | streuner | fluxnuk3r: or just edit /usr/bin/gcc <-- its just a symlink |
| 02:29.20 | simonrvn | `ns`: none filed? :(. have fun then, heh |
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| 02:29.49 | Qew | fluxnuk3r: you can have gcc-4.3 and 4.1 sitting nicely together, but you're just going to ask for one to be used instead of the default (4.3). |
| 02:29.50 | streuner | fluxnuk3r: but as Qew already told you, you need the compiler to install which doesnt hurd |
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| 02:30.30 | `ns` | simonrvn, I may try installing from raw source, maybe in the making of it I can get something I can sink my teeth into. |
| 02:31.05 | malchias | can anyone recommend a company / service that will help me setup a webserver. Ubuntu has a year worth of 9-5 support for £ 473.69 I was hoping for something cheaper, and would only need 1 months worth of support. Any recommendations? |
| 02:31.10 | Gun_Smoke | are there some serious problems in sid today? |
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| 02:31.27 | abrotman | way to be vague |
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| 02:31.39 | streuner | nah, BTS is overrated :-P |
| 02:31.39 | abrotman | malchias: for Ubuntu or Debian ? |
| 02:32.05 | Gun_Smoke | abrotman: can't seem to get gnome installed.. |
| 02:32.15 | abrotman | Gun_Smoke: start with smaller metapackages |
| 02:32.17 | malchias | I see Ubuntu has something - does debian have something like that? I'd prefer debian, but will use Ubuntu if that's the only one that can get it setup without me spending weeks learning |
| 02:32.17 | streuner | Gun_Smoke: what kind of answer do you expect? |
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| 02:32.32 | streuner | hm |
| 02:32.34 | abrotman | malchias: debian.org/consultants/ |
| 02:32.39 | Gun_Smoke | streuner: dunno.. maybe... 'yeah I'm in the same boat' |
| 02:32.40 | malchias | thank you |
| 02:32.40 | Craigevil | Gun_Smoke: try staring with aptitude install gnome-core then install the rest of what you need |
| 02:32.50 | streuner | !tell Gun_Smoke about install gnome |
| 02:32.55 | abrotman | malchias: some will work remotely .. who wants to put up with 100F heat .. |
| 02:33.10 | simonrvn | `mm |
| 02:33.11 | fluxnuk3r | ok. that took care of that problem. now I need the kernel source for it |
| 02:33.17 | simonrvn | oh bah |
| 02:33.29 | streuner | fluxnuk3r: only headers |
| 02:33.36 | fluxnuk3r | aaaah |
| 02:33.45 | fluxnuk3r | i installed linux-source-2.6.... |
| 02:33.55 | sexybeast | is x264 broken in debian? |
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| 02:34.54 | streuner | fluxnuk3r: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 02:36.43 | adb | sexybeast: what's exactly this x264 ? |
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| 02:37.36 | tiyowan | hello everyone |
| 02:37.37 | fluxnuk3r | yay! i have a readable resolution again \o/ |
| 02:37.41 | fluxnuk3r | lol |
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| 02:38.10 | streuner | adb: sounds like a codec to me, not sure - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264 |
| 02:38.25 | fluxnuk3r | streuner: what is the openal package called? (i've tried openal) |
| 02:38.36 | bike^ | a library |
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| 02:39.19 | bike^ | meddled with it for compiling/pleasing xchat-text for amigaos i believe |
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| 02:39.45 | bike^ | but yeah a codec |
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| 02:40.20 | bike^ | sexybeast, installed libx264? or something? |
| 02:40.31 | sexybeast | yes |
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| 02:40.43 | sexybeast | i try to encode x264 with mencoder |
| 02:40.44 | bike^ | any errors or anything? |
| 02:40.48 | sexybeast | bo |
| 02:40.49 | adb | streuner: thanks you |
| 02:40.51 | sexybeast | no* |
| 02:40.55 | bike^ | mkay |
| 02:40.59 | sexybeast | video comes out messed up |
| 02:41.14 | bike^ | hm, might have been cinelerra i compiled for ubuntu btw |
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| 02:41.54 | ksnp | i am trying to get opvnpn on debian |
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| 02:41.54 | bike^ | which i might add i failed at compiling due to a messup with headers or something ;\ |
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| 02:41.59 | ksnp | i want to know if the debain can provide access to the entire lan it is on or just to itself ? |
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| 02:42.24 | abrotman | ksnp: via openvpn ? |
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| 02:44.23 | ksnp | yes |
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| 02:45.09 | ksnp | basically openvpn client -> debian server and openvpn client wants to access the entire LAN the server is on and everything on the LAN the server is on, also can reach the client |
| 02:45.27 | abrotman | yes, it's possible, you were told that hours ago |
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| 02:47.46 | ksnp | i did not ask about the server LAN being able to also access the client :) |
| 02:47.56 | ksnp | hence wanted to ask that too |
| 02:48.20 | ksnp | i looked at the network-manager-openvpn for debian lenny |
| 02:48.28 | abrotman | pretty sure you did .. but okay |
| 02:49.06 | ksnp | openvpn is supposed to be slower ? is that true ? |
| 02:49.12 | ksnp | slower than ipsec or pptp ? |
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| 02:49.56 | abrotman | test it and see |
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| 02:51.14 | ksnp | lol |
| 02:51.24 | ksnp | i don't have those servers |
| 02:51.31 | ksnp | but would be best if i can |
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| 02:51.36 | ksnp | wanted to know what are my options |
| 02:51.39 | ksnp | and tradeoffs |
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| 02:52.02 | ksnp | is it possible to do ipsec with debian ? shouldn't be ? |
| 02:52.24 | ksnp | sorry i don't know much abt this stuff yet |
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| 02:54.02 | johnp | anyone know how I fix screen? It's saying "Cannot find terminfo entry for 'screen.linux'." when i try to re-attach from a ssh -X login |
| 02:56.26 | enouf | bozo is back |
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| 02:57.15 | neuro_damage | is there a newer version of the nvidia package in some repo somewhere, cause the version I have has bugs when running WoW |
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| 02:58.00 | neuro_damage | oh no, any docs on the concepts |
| 02:58.15 | enouf | johnp: screen is not an X app, stop using -X |
| 02:58.59 | johnp | enouf I tried with ssh and then with ssh -X - - both gave that error |
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| 02:59.18 | enouf | try -vvv |
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| 03:01.28 | johnp | enouf: version 4.00.03 - what's that proving? |
| 03:01.59 | Erekose | looking for help to reconfigure xserver as monitor is out of range |
| 03:02.19 | enouf | Erekose: /msg dpkg hal see last URL |
| 03:02.42 | enouf | Erekose: man xorg.conf ; setup Vert/Hor ranges |
| 03:02.44 | johnp | enouf: I can re-attach the screen session locally, but not remotely |
| 03:03.58 | Erekose | you lost me there |
| 03:04.02 | adb | Erekose: lower Vert/Hor ranges in xorg.conf |
| 03:04.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | johnp, echo $TERM |
| 03:04.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | try export TERM=xterm and/or export TERM=linux |
| 03:04.58 | enouf | johnp: "Cannot find terminfo entry for 'screen.linux'." means your $TERM variable is bonkers |
| 03:05.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | <---- psychic |
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| 03:05.50 | johnp | enouf: I thought so, but I have no idea why or or how to fix it |
| 03:06.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | are you sshing out of a screen, btw? |
| 03:06.17 | johnp | CutMeOwnThroat: yes |
| 03:06.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, then either read what I said earlier |
| 03:06.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | or stop doing that :) |
| 03:06.43 | johnp | heh:) |
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| 03:09.16 | johnp | CutMeOwnThroat: with reason - nesting screens are a bitch |
| 03:09.24 | Erekose | when you just quote a line like that you lose me entirely |
| 03:09.40 | johnp | it works now - thanks enouf and CutMeOwnThroat |
| 03:09.46 | enouf | in screen, $TERM=screen |
| 03:10.06 | adb | Erekose: example : HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0 new line VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 |
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| 03:10.18 | johnp | enouf: ok tks |
| 03:10.24 | Erekose | ya still lose me |
| 03:10.28 | ranix | enouf! |
| 03:10.38 | enouf | adb: new line == \n :-) |
| 03:10.53 | adb | Erekose: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:11.04 | enouf | !paste |
| 03:11.04 | adb | enouf: yes , Sir |
| 03:11.04 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 03:11.24 | Erekose | is that what I type in at the comand line |
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| 03:12.51 | adb | Erekose: how you get that "out of range" ? you modified xorg.conf ? |
| 03:13.10 | enouf | Erekose: here's a template http://pastebin.ca/raw/1481471 adjust accordingly |
| 03:13.37 | enouf | Erekose: each line with a # is not processed |
| 03:14.09 | Erekose | I can`t cut and paste it .. its on a 2nd PC |
| 03:14.47 | adb | enouf: mom, it seems he not even know where is xorg .. |
| 03:15.13 | enouf | Erekose: learn how to network shit and /msg dpkg pastebin pipe |
| 03:15.13 | adb | Erekose: ask me question |
| 03:15.26 | adb | my* |
| 03:15.45 | Erekose | adb: where do I start |
| 03:15.53 | ksnp | abro : is the access to the server side LAN by the openvpn client possible without changing anything other than the openvpn server alone ? Like does it need any change to the LAN gateway/router config itself |
| 03:15.59 | enouf | man xorg.conf Erekose |
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| 03:16.21 | Erekose | so I do that from comand line |
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| 03:17.00 | enouf | Erekose: the /msg .... stuff is to be done in your IRC client |
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| 03:17.12 | enouf | all else within your shell, so yes, CLI |
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| 03:17.53 | ksnp | hi, anyone can explain if the access to the server side LAN by the openvpn client possible without changing anything other than the openvpn server alone ? Like does it need any change to the LAN gateway/router config itself - theopenvpn server and the gateway of its LAN are different devices |
| 03:18.00 | enouf | Erekose: check your other IRC Client windows for PMs from <dpkg> |
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| 03:18.50 | enouf | passes out ... finally .. heh |
| 03:18.58 | Erekose | yep, I se them |
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| 03:19.38 | Erekose | so go look there then |
| 03:19.53 | peter_12 | What is an editor that allows composing binary files in hex characters? |
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| 03:21.16 | hyde | with NFS, can I only have uid matching, not gid matching, is this still OK? |
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| 03:21.50 | adb | peter_12: hexedit ? |
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| 03:22.24 | peter_12 | adb: thanks, have you used that? |
| 03:22.30 | adb | no |
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| 03:23.06 | adb | ncurses-hexedit |
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| 03:24.11 | adb | peter_12: apt-cache search hexedit |
| 03:24.25 | peter_12 | adb: thanks |
| 03:24.30 | ranix | hexedit has nothing on list.com |
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| 03:24.57 | peter_12 | ranix: what is that? |
| 03:25.06 | ranix | a dos application older than I am |
| 03:25.21 | ranix | it's one of the main reasons I keep a windows machine around |
| 03:25.31 | Erekose | thats a little bit out of my understanding |
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| 03:26.02 | ranix | right click, send to, list.com |
| 03:26.09 | Erekose | So I guess I`lll find another distro to install |
| 03:26.38 | adb | Erekose: grep Hori /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 03:26.46 | ksnp | adb : can you tell me a little on this openvpn network setup issue ? |
| 03:26.59 | adb | Erekose: says ? |
| 03:27.33 | ksnp | if the access to the server side LAN by the openvpn client possible without changing anything other than the openvpn server alone ? Like does it need any change to the LAN gateway/router config itself - theopenvpn server and the gateway of its LAN are different devices |
| 03:27.48 | adb | Erekose: grep Ver /etc/X11/xorg.conf , says |
| 03:27.51 | Erekose | ok I did that adb |
| 03:28.07 | adb | and says ? |
| 03:28.22 | adb | here VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 |
| 03:28.42 | adb | HorizSync 30.0 - 75.0 |
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| 03:29.59 | adb | ksnp: read some docs , don't tell us to read for you |
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| 03:30.38 | eviltux | hi all |
| 03:31.34 | Erekose | grep Hori did nothing , grep Ver did nothing |
| 03:32.20 | ksnp | adb : i did read but most of them assume the openvpn server is either the gateway of the LAN also, OR you have control over the LAN gateway |
| 03:32.50 | ksnp | i did not find anything that allows server side LAN access where you don't have control over the LAN gateway. |
| 03:33.12 | ranix | wut |
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| 03:33.45 | ksnp | basically i have openvpn server behind a firewall/router and all i get is being able to open a port in the firewall/router |
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| 03:34.06 | ksnp | i want to acess the server side lan not just server |
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| 03:36.22 | ksnp | adb ? |
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| 03:37.37 | adb | ksnp: ask /j #openvpn |
| 03:37.46 | ksnp | ok, cool |
| 03:38.09 | ksnp | dint know there wasone |
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| 03:46.06 | nuscire | hello, everyone. I have a problem with my sound card. I'm using debian testing. After a upgrade of alsa a few days ago, my sound was no longer avaiable, which worked fine before the upgrading. The 'snd_intel8x0' is loaded; mplayer complains that 'audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory'. It's a old AC97 PCI sound card. Any suggestions? |
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| 03:49.23 | luch | if i run faxmail to take apart an email message, how do i get information to use in sendfax from faxmail form hylafax |
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| 03:50.52 | tiyowan | hello everyone. i've encourntered an expression in a bash script that i don't understand. i've checked the man pages, as well as numerous examples, but i can't seem to understand what exactly this is. expression is _variable1 = ${_version#v*< } |
| 03:51.14 | ananthgs | Hi all |
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| 03:51.30 | ananthgs | I just wanted to know some information from you folks. |
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| 03:52.15 | tiyowan | i know it's a string test, but what's the #v*< bit? is it an expression to extract substrings? |
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| 03:52.20 | ananthgs | How can we prevent our Debian box from hackers? Apart from strong passwords - is there any other way? |
| 03:52.31 | pav5088 | Hi... I'm wondering how to correctly set up my hosts file in debian. I'm aware of the 127.0.1.1 workaround, and have some idea of why it's required (although not a clear idea... I just know it's a workaround). I'm using some software which REQUIRES the external IP against the hostname in /etc/hosts . Does this put me in a position where I have no choice but to break SOMETHING by modifying /etc/hosts, or is there a way to d |
| 03:52.31 | pav5088 | o this which will keep all software happy? |
| 03:53.15 | ananthgs | By debian box i meant a debian installed system. |
| 03:53.35 | adb | unplug net cable ? |
| 03:53.58 | ananthgs | adb: that is the last option indeed |
| 03:53.59 | pav5088 | ananthgs, which service are you trying to protect? |
| 03:54.00 | ananthgs | :) |
| 03:54.21 | ananthgs | the full os as a whole. |
| 03:54.37 | pav5088 | ananthgs, if it's something like ssh you could look at fail2ban |
| 03:54.55 | ananthgs | no i did not mean ssh |
| 03:55.03 | ananthgs | but what is fail2ban? |
| 03:55.36 | ananthgs | is there any way of encrypting the home and root directorys? |
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| 03:55.49 | pav5088 | ananthgs, you really need to know what services are open to the network... because with different services are different strategies to protect them. Indeed one strategy is to minimise the number of services you are running to the bare essentials for what you want to achieve. |
| 03:56.35 | luke3321 | Encrypted LVM? |
| 03:56.41 | ananthgs | ok let me ask your way....how can i come to know as to what services are open to the network? |
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| 03:56.44 | luke3321 | Just a guess. That might not work |
| 03:57.10 | pav5088 | ananthgs, so you're looking to protect the machine from physical access? |
| 03:57.14 | luke3321 | Go to another computer, and hit it with an intense scan from nmap |
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| 03:57.54 | ananthgs | physical access....? yes but through the network |
| 03:58.26 | ananthgs | let me explain you the problem that i faced yesterday night... |
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| 03:59.01 | ananthgs | i had around 10gb free space in my hdd as a whole. and all of a sudden within 10 minutes from connecting to the n/w.. |
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| 03:59.19 | ananthgs | i got a message stating that i have 0bytes left in my system... |
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| 03:59.37 | ananthgs | i was downloading some torrent songs...and doing nothing else on the net |
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| 04:00.07 | luke3321 | nice. way to admit to your wrongdoing ;) |
| 04:00.09 | ananthgs | then i could realise that someone was trying to send dat files to my system and thats how i came to know that my system was hacked |
| 04:00.21 | luke3321 | hm |
| 04:00.25 | ananthgs | wrongdoing by downloading torrents? |
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| 04:00.34 | ananthgs | whatever you say... |
| 04:00.38 | luke3321 | If its of copyrighted material |
| 04:00.48 | gaintsura | how can I kill a process taht is not responding to kill -9 |
| 04:00.49 | luke3321 | But I really dont care so anyway |
| 04:00.50 | ananthgs | ya i agree with you. |
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| 04:01.05 | ananthgs | any help now? |
| 04:01.08 | luke3321 | yep |
| 04:01.16 | ananthgs | what is it? |
| 04:01.25 | justin | ananthgs: do you have an actual problem, or are you just asking about hypothetical situations? |
| 04:01.26 | luke3321 | To start, I would go find another computer on you network, and install nmap |
| 04:01.34 | luke3321 | with its GUI Zenmap |
| 04:01.42 | ananthgs | ok then? |
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| 04:01.51 | luke3321 | Then do an intense scan on the computer in question |
| 04:02.05 | luke3321 | It will tell you all open port and the services listening on them |
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| 04:02.09 | ananthgs | justin, i am knowing ways of protecting my system from hackers. |
| 04:02.19 | ananthgs | ok |
| 04:02.57 | luke3321 | At that point, it would be time to ask the lurking gurus here how to protect those individual services |
| 04:03.20 | ananthgs | ok that sounds good...thanks luke |
| 04:03.23 | ksnp | hi anyone here that can answer a few questions on openvpn please ? |
| 04:03.23 | luke3321 | And maybe investigate a router with a built in firewall, if you dont have one allready |
| 04:03.25 | luke3321 | np |
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| 04:03.51 | ananthgs | yes firewall... i have not installed a firewall too. |
| 04:03.54 | ananthgs | will that help? |
| 04:04.17 | luke3321 | Well I am referring to one built into a router |
| 04:04.28 | ananthgs | yes please go ahead..ksnp |
| 04:04.49 | luke3321 | More or less, they dont allow incoming connections unless you forward a port from the router to the computer |
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| 04:05.07 | ananthgs | let me tell u the networking way...are you referring to a hardware firewall? |
| 04:05.28 | luke3321 | ananthgs: Exactly |
| 04:05.36 | ksnp | luke : can i ask a question on openvpn ? |
| 04:05.39 | luke3321 | But built into a router, not as expensive |
| 04:05.49 | luke3321 | ksnp: Go for it |
| 04:06.02 | luke3321 | ksnp: Doubt I can help tho, I know nothing of vpn |
| 04:06.11 | ksnp | oh |
| 04:06.17 | ksnp | anyway i'll try |
| 04:06.29 | ksnp | is there a pastebin for this channel ? |
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| 04:06.46 | ksnp | ~pb |
| 04:06.47 | apt | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste , or , http://bin.cakephp.org/, or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 04:06.53 | ksnp | ok |
| 04:06.56 | gum2tux | what is the CLI command to check if inserted CD is on which /dev/xxx name ? |
| 04:07.20 | ksnp | http://pastebin.com/m460f8cf9 |
| 04:07.24 | ananthgs | ksnp go ahead with ur doubts... i have openvpn working for my office connectivity. |
| 04:07.29 | ksnp | cool |
| 04:07.36 | ksnp | i have put my setup and question at http://pastebin.com/m460f8cf9 |
| 04:07.46 | ksnp | it has few lines, so didn't want to flood here |
| 04:08.48 | ananthgs | good. |
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| 04:09.19 | ananthgs | yes i think ...that last line of yours work... |
| 04:10.16 | ksnp | so send and receive works ? so does it mean the machine B (let's say A is the openvpn server) when trying to send packets back to the clinet, will send it to A and A will send it back to the client over the VPN ? |
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| 04:10.57 | ksnp | assuming the client is the one initiating the connection to B |
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| 04:11.55 | ananthgs | i think yes. |
| 04:11.58 | ananthgs | it works. |
| 04:12.02 | ksnp | ok, cool |
| 04:12.13 | ksnp | what if machine B wants to initiate connection to the client ? |
| 04:12.39 | ananthgs | is B a server? |
| 04:12.47 | ananthgs | then it is straight forward. |
| 04:12.59 | ksnp | B is some othe rmachine/ server but not openvpn server (A is openvpn server) |
| 04:13.13 | ananthgs | then this wont work. |
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| 04:13.27 | ksnp | does this have to be done to the openvpn server which acts as gateway to the client(s) and hence openvpn server can only do via port forwarding ? |
| 04:14.00 | ananthgs | you will not be able to communicate b/w 2 machines one in a vpn and the other without..... |
| 04:14.13 | ksnp | it shoudl be possible in principle right ? |
| 04:14.17 | justin | ksnp: who runs the network that these machines are connected to? |
| 04:14.31 | ksnp | justin : its actually 2 homes |
| 04:14.34 | ksnp | one i have full control |
| 04:14.56 | ksnp | other i can get only port forward for vpn to a debian inside |
| 04:15.10 | ksnp | client on LAN1 <----> router/firewall 1 <---- internet ---> router/firewall 2 <---> openvpn server on LAN 2 |
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| 04:15.36 | ksnp | openvpn server on LAN 2 i can configure, and get one / two ports forwarded to the openvpn server |
| 04:15.52 | justin | ksnp: what you need to do is add static routes on the router/firewalls on each end |
| 04:16.00 | ksnp | ok |
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| 04:16.27 | ksnp | so the static route on the firewall/router can be setup to even things outside its own subnet obviously i guess ? |
| 04:16.29 | justin | so that lets say the normal internal network is 192.168.1.0/24 and your VPN subnet is 192.168.2.0/24 |
| 04:16.46 | ksnp | i guess tha'ts what you need routing for anyway :) stupid question |
| 04:16.56 | ksnp | ok, please go ahead |
| 04:16.57 | justin | you need to add a static route on the router box for 192.168.2.0/24 with a gateway of 192.168.1.x where x is the IP of the VPN box |
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| 04:17.26 | ksnp | 1.0/24 is the client LAN ? |
| 04:17.33 | ksnp | or server side LAN ? |
| 04:17.43 | justin | ksnp: it really doesnt matter which is which |
| 04:17.56 | ksnp | ok |
| 04:18.07 | justin | if you add the routes in the appropriate places everything will just work |
| 04:18.10 | ksnp | cool .. |
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| 04:18.47 | homo | hello how do i ssh to a user from another pc? |
| 04:19.02 | ksnp | so i guess the opnvpn server acts also as a router |
| 04:19.05 | luke3321 | homo: ssh <user>@<ip or hostname> |
| 04:19.14 | ksnp | if i now want client side entire LAN to access the server side entire LAN, in addition to static routes, the client also has to act as a router i guess |
| 04:19.16 | homo | yeah that wasn't working ill try again |
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| 04:19.33 | homo | err i couldn't get the shell to load |
| 04:19.41 | homo | i type in the password and it just hangs |
| 04:19.58 | ksnp | thanks ! |
| 04:19.59 | pav5088 | The software is called OPSI and is used for deploying Microsoft operating systems such as XP, Vista and Win7 |
| 04:20.07 | luke3321 | homo: So it asks for a password to connect to the user's account? |
| 04:20.09 | pav5088 | ...and also images |
| 04:20.12 | homo | used this to try and chroot the account |
| 04:20.13 | pav5088 | (from Linux) |
| 04:20.14 | homo | http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny |
| 04:20.22 | homo | luke3321: yes |
| 04:20.50 | ksnp | justin : are you here for a bi tmore today or tomorrow ? |
| 04:20.56 | justin | ksnp: don't think of openvpn as client/server think of it as site-to-site |
| 04:21.07 | ksnp | cool - that's exactly what i want to do |
| 04:21.10 | justin | ksnp: it's 00:20 here |
| 04:21.13 | ksnp | oh |
| 04:21.15 | luke3321 | homo: Oh god. sftp over chrooted ssh. I am useless there. Sorry |
| 04:21.17 | ksnp | u here tomorrow ? |
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| 04:21.23 | ksnp | or can i get your email ;-) ? |
| 04:21.23 | justin | tomorrow or later today heh |
| 04:21.49 | homo | bahh |
| 04:22.10 | homo | well should i be able to get a shell when i ssh user@ip ? |
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| 04:22.43 | dserban_ | file:///usr/share/ia32-apt-get/dists/transitional-amd64/main/binary-amd64/Packages: File not found <-- wtf? What did I screw up with ia32-apt-get? |
| 04:23.01 | dserban_ | or will that end up being a rhetorical question? |
| 04:23.18 | ksnp | was j/k |
| 04:23.52 | justin | ksnp: a lot of sites use a router/firewall that also does vpn, so that is kind of simplified |
| 04:24.14 | luke3321 | homo: You should be able to, but a chrooted ssh might behave differently |
| 04:24.26 | ksnp | ya, thought abt that, but right now don't have control over the router but do have a debian at my disposal |
| 04:24.34 | ksnp | especially the dd-wrt routers |
| 04:24.52 | ksnp | never used but heard about them, not sure how good they handle openvpn stuff |
| 04:24.54 | uplinx | hello. i've installed apache2 and php5, but the apache server fails at serving the php files as viewable instead, apache is offering the files to download. I've added lines for directory index, addhandler, addtype, have restarted the server a ton, flushed my browser cache a ton, and asked in #httpd, followed the directions they gave me, which were the same as what i found in google. any ideas beyond these? |
| 04:25.01 | homo | uggh, why would i opt for chroot instead of normal ssh |
| 04:25.35 | luke3321 | homo: Security. Users cannot escape the chroot. Or even know they are in one for that matter |
| 04:25.36 | ksnp | justin : btw, can a windows openvpn client act as router for providing access to its LAN ? |
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| 04:26.02 | luke3321 | homo: That way it the try and hack you or such, they just hack a folder, with no effect to the system |
| 04:26.15 | homo | oh, i see |
| 04:26.27 | luke3321 | homo: Are you trying to set up chrooted sftp or ssh? |
| 04:26.39 | homo | so if i let user ssh to my computer they can access ll other directories? |
| 04:26.44 | homo | ssh |
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| 04:27.31 | luke3321 | homo: No, if a user ssh's into a chroot, they can only see what you put in the chroot. Nothing outside of there. Permissions permitting of course |
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| 04:28.15 | homo | oic, but w a normal ssh user can see everything inside their /home ? |
| 04:28.54 | luke3321 | homo: A normal ssh user can see everything on the computer. Assuming the permissions give them read access |
| 04:29.32 | luke3321 | Normal ssh for user "test" would be like user "test" opening up a terminal while logged in on the computer |
| 04:30.01 | luke3321 | He can read /etc but not edit it, he can read/edit everything in /home/test |
| 04:30.03 | luke3321 | Etc.. |
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| 04:30.53 | homo | oh cool |
| 04:31.10 | luke3321 | So what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 04:31.24 | homo | idk i was just trying to ssh to my pc |
| 04:31.27 | homo | and it wasn't working |
| 04:31.34 | homo | probably because i tried to chroot it |
| 04:31.44 | luke3321 | well if it is just you, there is no reason to chroot it |
| 04:31.47 | uplinx | to get apache2 to serve php pages and not offer them for download. |
| 04:31.53 | luke3321 | just install openssh-server and off you go |
| 04:31.54 | uplinx | getting annoyed. |
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| 04:32.44 | luke3321 | uplinx: Maybe php is not enabled/configured in apache's configuration? |
| 04:32.47 | phillipsm | uplinx: http://www.lmgtfy.com?q=install%20php%20apache |
| 04:32.55 | luke3321 | Or that |
| 04:33.02 | phillipsm | lol |
| 04:33.08 | uplinx | sudo a2enmod php5 |
| 04:33.17 | uplinx | "This module is already enabled." |
| 04:33.18 | ksnp | justin : last one for today :) is setting pki since i have two machines (and need different keys) the only option as opposed to static keys ? or can you have two static keys ? |
| 04:33.34 | uplinx | if you read my earlier statement |
| 04:33.42 | uplinx | i have been working on this in both google |
| 04:33.44 | hark | uplinx: clear your browser cache and restart the browser |
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| 04:33.51 | uplinx | and #httpd for the last 4 hours |
| 04:34.02 | uplinx | i have done that at least a hundred times hark |
| 04:34.20 | luke3321 | uplinx: Oh, well i am just guessing. I really dont know a ton about apache and such |
| 04:34.26 | hark | uplinx: have you restarted apache2? |
| 04:34.33 | hark | !php wants me to download still |
| 04:34.33 | dpkg | Carefully read and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/php*-common/README.Debian.gz and <install php>; make sure you reloaded apache, cleared your browser cache and restarted your browser. Also verified that it's still a problem outside of your browser using telnet, netcat, wget, GET, curl, etc as the browser caching the download is often a problem. Also have a look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload (Apache 1.x). |
| 04:34.51 | uplinx | sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 04:34.53 | uplinx | yes, i have |
| 04:35.01 | uplinx | followed that wiki page already |
| 04:35.42 | uplinx | also: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DebianPHP |
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| 04:37.25 | hark | you shouldn't follow that page |
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| 04:37.36 | uplinx | hm |
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| 04:39.06 | Supertanker | Hi. What do I need to do to properly configure arno-iptables-firewall to act as a nat/router for my main computer that is a Linux router (With a dialup connection, yes) |
| 04:39.18 | uplinx | well, i dunno. wasted enough time on this, so i'm gonna go work on something else. |
| 04:39.19 | Supertanker | It connects (Obviously) but nothing else can connect to it. |
| 04:39.21 | uplinx | later |
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| 04:56.15 | ananthgs | can someone suggest the best firewall for debian |
| 04:56.16 | ananthgs | ? |
| 04:56.39 | JyZyXEL | how did you start X applications with some other users permissions? |
| 04:56.42 | spvensko | has anyone here successfully run debian on a newer macbook pro? i've heard reports that it and ubuntu have a tendency to kill MBPs due to heat regulation issues and i'm not sure if this is Apple FUD or a legit concern |
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| 05:06.19 | miickee | Hey, the only problem I have now with debian is that when I put my laptop to sleep, and try to "wake" it up again, the display does not turn on |
| 05:06.28 | miickee | So to use it again I gotta restart the laptop |
| 05:06.28 | dserban_ | does anyone know anything or anything much about ia32-apt-get? |
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| 05:06.51 | stew | miickee: try a chvt 1 ; chvt 7 upon waking |
| 05:07.39 | dserban_ | or short of that, can anyone point me to some documentation on this package? how it works? why this wrapper is getting my sources wrong? |
| 05:08.09 | miickee | stew: chvt 1, chvt 7? |
| 05:09.00 | stew | miickee: right, the equivalant of hitting ctrl-alt-f1 then alt-f7 to switch to the first text console, then back to X |
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| 05:09.40 | miickee | Hmm ok, so pressing ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 will wake the display back up? |
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| 05:12.28 | stew | miickee: its certainly worth trying, it would force a video mode switch. if the key sequence doesn't work, its worth trying to script it in /etc/acpi/resume.d/ |
| 05:13.12 | stew | miickee: at least at some point in the past, and with some cards you wanted to do something with vbestate. I have no idea if that is still required. i've not needed it in quite a while |
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| 05:45.26 | ksnp | miickee : what laptop are u using ? |
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| 05:52.43 | Almustafa | Hi I can print just fine but coud not find my printer device as /dev/usb/lp0 nor /dev/usblp0. |
| 05:53.01 | Almustafa | Help: how can I find out device node for the printer? |
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| 05:53.29 | Almustafa | I was wondering if there is no device node how cups managed to have printed on it. |
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| 05:56.20 | miickee | Sorry, ran outta battery power |
| 05:56.25 | miickee | I am using a HP Pavillion dv5 |
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| 05:56.55 | BlackDex | Hello there |
| 05:57.02 | BlackDex | i have a problem |
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| 05:57.20 | BlackDex | something has gone wrong with an hdd |
| 05:57.45 | BlackDex | when i run e2fsck -f i get a view questions |
| 05:57.57 | BlackDex | and i don't realy know what they do |
| 05:58.13 | BlackDex | like.. |
| 05:58.13 | BlackDex | entry x has an invalide inode. clear (y) |
| 05:58.19 | sdx23 | Almustafa: There should be one. find /dev -group lp |
| 05:58.28 | BlackDex | What happens when i select yes? |
| 05:58.37 | BlackDex | does it remove the associated file |
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| 06:04.53 | Almustafa | sdx23: 'find /dev -group lp' gave me empty output |
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| 06:05.22 | Almustafa | sdx23: and "echo hello | lp -d Laserjet" give me a printed page! |
| 06:05.56 | Almustafa | sdx23: /etc/cups/printers.conf have this: "DeviceURI hp:/usb/hp_LaserJet_3015?serial=00CNBSB42011" |
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| 06:07.58 | sdx23 | Almustafa: hmm, this indeed is kinda strange. Maybe you'll find something in /dev/usb/*, else it may use an usb-endpoint direktly. |
| 06:08.16 | ksnp | anyone tell what the purpose of network-manager-openvpn is for ? |
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| 06:09.41 | pl4yer0ne | ksnp, It helps manage openvpn connections via the gnome network manager |
| 06:09.57 | pl4yer0ne | I think its deprecated though |
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| 06:10.25 | GhostlyDeath | For dpkg --configure -a, is there a way for it to not stop when "Processing was halted because there were too many errors"? |
| 06:10.59 | dondelelcaro | GhostlyDeath: fix the errors |
| 06:11.19 | GhostlyDeath | dondelelcaro: That would be difficult |
| 06:11.23 | ksnp | ok |
| 06:11.32 | dondelelcaro | GhostlyDeath: why? They're almost always fairly trivial to deal with |
| 06:11.32 | GhostlyDeath | I'd have to configure every package by hand |
| 06:11.48 | dondelelcaro | GhostlyDeath: huh? you get the first few errors, then you fix them, then you continue |
| 06:11.49 | ksnp | i have apache and exim installed when i was first installing debian, how to disable them safely so that these are not running ? |
| 06:12.12 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: just remove apache; you need an MTA, so either configure exim properly, or use nullmailer or esmtp or similar. |
| 06:12.28 | ksnp | remove as in aptitude remove ? |
| 06:12.32 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: yes. |
| 06:12.34 | ksnp | ok |
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| 06:13.07 | ksnp | where is the openvpn.conf file when i do aptitude install ? |
| 06:13.23 | ksnp | i am unable to locate it - i find conf files in the samples for seerver etc. but not this one |
| 06:13.24 | GhostlyDeath | dondelelcaro: I figure running the command multiple times configuration any package that needs configuring is easier |
| 06:13.32 | ksnp | i tried using find . |
| 06:13.37 | ksnp | but could not locate |
| 06:13.50 | pl4yer0ne | ksnp, it doesnt create one |
| 06:14.02 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: there isn't one; see the examples in /usr/share/doc/openvpn |
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| 06:14.35 | ksnp | ya, i couldn't find |
| 06:14.38 | dondelelcaro | GhostlyDeath: you shouldn't be getting any errors. If you do, you need to fix them. Just randomly running dpkg --configure isn't going to fix them. |
| 06:14.46 | ksnp | the tutorials online don't tell where to find it :) |
| 06:15.01 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: well, look harder. see /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/sample-config-files/ |
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| 06:16.04 | ksnp | it is not there |
| 06:16.11 | ksnp | all the files there are only ones at http://pastebin.com/d531d6682 |
| 06:16.44 | ksnp | i'll download one perhaps after searching ? |
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| 06:17.40 | pl4yer0ne | ksnp, the config is very simple so have a look and write your own |
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| 06:17.49 | ksnp | ok |
| 06:18.17 | pl4yer0ne | and those files client.conf and server.conf.gz are the examples |
| 06:18.22 | ksnp | i have a setup that looks like : http://pastebin.com/m460f8cf9 and i want to know if i can reach the server sides entire LAN (LAN 2) from the client (both send and receive traffic) without changing router 2 (servers side router) static routers and only allowing port forwarding to the openvpn server ? |
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| 06:19.05 | pl4yer0ne | yes |
| 06:19.06 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: uh... if you don't have those files there, then you may not be actually be using Debian's package. |
| 06:19.19 | ksnp | i used aptitude install openvpn |
| 06:19.23 | ksnp | i am using debian lenny |
| 06:19.41 | ksnp | how do i find version number of my deiban ? |
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| 06:19.46 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: there are five different configs there; check them out. |
| 06:20.05 | ksnp | http://pastebin.com/d531d6682 are all the files dondel |
| 06:20.21 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: yes, and there are 5 of them which are sample configurations for openvpn |
| 06:20.27 | ksnp | i guess server.conf.gz is an example of the server conf (or openvpn.conf) |
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| 06:20.55 | ksnp | ok, pl4yer says to use these and write myself - i guess that should be doable :) |
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| 06:21.33 | pl4yer0ne | like have a look at the examples and then read the doco. My server config is only about 10 lines long |
| 06:21.34 | ksnp | dond : can you answer my question also about for client side being able to send/receive traffic to entire server side LAN without altering the gateway/router' on server side ? |
| 06:21.40 | ksnp | oh |
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| 06:21.43 | ksnp | ok, cool |
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| 06:22.20 | ksnp | dond/pl4 : can you tell me about reaching the server side LAN from client (for both send and receive) ? the tutorials say use push, but just want to confirm you can send AND receive this way ? |
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| 06:22.27 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: you don't have to alter anything on the server side, assuming the server can actually send traffic to that lAN. |
| 06:22.40 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: and obviously, it's no use if you can't send and receive. |
| 06:22.42 | pl4yer0ne | yeah you just need to forward port 1194 |
| 06:22.53 | ksnp | ok, cool |
| 06:23.10 | dondelelcaro | you just have to configure your config so that the appropriate routes are added to the client |
| 06:23.21 | ksnp | if machines on the server side LAN (other than server itself) want to reach client ? i guess i'll have to change the router/firewall static routes ? |
| 06:23.44 | ksnp | dond : ok, i can figure that with online searches.. |
| 06:23.51 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: depends on the config. Normally you have everything join the same vpn. |
| 06:24.07 | ksnp | in my case the network setup is as : |
| 06:24.12 | dondelelcaro | ksnp: and my nick is dondelelcaro; you may want to invest in a client that does tab nick completion, like irssi |
| 06:24.12 | ksnp | client on LAN1 <----> router/firewall 1 <---- internet ---> router/firewall 2 <---> openvpn server on LAN 2 |
| 06:24.24 | ksnp | ok, sorry will try that |
| 06:24.55 | ksnp | didnt' realize is an actual name :) |
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| 06:26.00 | ksnp | LAN 2 machines wnat to reach client - i guess one way is to change router's static routes to send them to the openvpn server ? would the openvpn server be able to take care of rest ? |
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| 06:27.09 | ksnp | actually let me ask more basic thing : what's the diff between tap and tun ? |
| 06:27.31 | ksnp | "If you are using Ethernet bridging, you must use server-bridge and dev tap instead of server and dev tun." |
| 06:27.42 | ksnp | i gues most ppl use dev tun ? |
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| 06:30.52 | ksnp | pl4yer0ne / dondelelcaro: |
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| 06:30.53 | ksnp | ? |
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| 06:31.41 | jelly-home | ksnp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP |
| 06:32.08 | ksnp | ya , landed that :) |
| 06:32.16 | ksnp | thanks |
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| 06:32.35 | jelly-home | it's bad form to ask questions answerable by the first google hit |
| 06:33.03 | cmyers_work | although it can lead to comedy gold: http://www.lmgtfy.com/ |
| 06:34.24 | Siegfried | i don't understand something, if i put http://pastebin.com/m2bbded83 in babelfish, english to spanish, quotes for "testtt" are changed to spanish quotes in firefox, but in lynx wget or curl it doesn't show any quote like if it couldn't display them |
| 06:35.06 | ksnp | hehe, i normally do that, this was just spur |
| 06:35.51 | ksnp | btw, if you are familiar with this, can you tell me if i can make a server LAN side machine reach a client ? didn't find in any hits :) |
| 06:36.05 | cmyers_work | Siegfried: perhaps babelfish tries to be "smart" and detect your browser, and change what it displays based on that? Back in the day (babelfish is old) many browsers didn't support encodings like UTF8 |
| 06:36.51 | Siegfried | cmyers_work, all the other characters display fine, like o a with weird accents.. |
| 06:37.23 | cmyers_work | ksnp: I'm not sure what you are asking. You want a machine on a LAN (so you mean...behind a NAT?) to connect to another machine not on that LAN? |
| 06:37.26 | jelly-home | ksnp: if a route is added, sure |
| 06:38.11 | Siegfried | i even tried changing the user agent, still no luck |
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| 06:38.24 | GhostlyDeath | eh, I'll just use a for loop to do every single package 10 times over |
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| 06:38.38 | GhostlyDeath | that way I can work up the dependency ladder |
| 06:39.05 | ksnp | yes, basically i have : |
| 06:39.06 | ksnp | client on LAN1 <----> router/firewall 1 <---- internet ---> router/firewall 2 <---> openvpn server on LAN 2 |
| 06:39.13 | jelly-home | ksnp: while I haven't used openvpn, any vpn solution should have the possibility to add custom routes when a tunnel is enabled |
| 06:39.16 | ksnp | and LAN 2 machines want to talk to client : |
| 06:40.02 | ksnp | but i guess since the gateway of all the machines on LAN 2 is the router & not the openvpn server, i will have to put a static route on the router - is there a way to do this without touching the router/gwateway on LAN 2 ? |
| 06:40.15 | GhostlyDeath | ksnp: Did you enable forwarding in /etc/sysctl? |
| 06:40.25 | GhostlyDeath | .conf |
| 06:40.42 | ksnp | hehe, just starting with all this stuff :) dunno much about it |
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| 06:40.58 | CoffeeIV | If I update to the latest lenny, will the pidgin or gaim on there work with yahoo chat, given the recent change to yahoo chat that broke a lot of linux clients ? |
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| 06:41.09 | ksnp | but are you suggesting that server side LAN machines talk to the openvpn server and this openvpn server does a port forward to the client ? |
| 06:41.13 | ksnp | ghostly ? |
| 06:41.14 | jelly-home | ksnp: what kind of traffic, which end are the connections initiated from? |
| 06:41.32 | GhostlyDeath | CoffeeIV: So that's why Yahoo isn't working |
| 06:41.32 | ksnp | client on LAN1 <----> router/firewall 1 <---- internet ---> router/firewall 2 <---> openvpn server on LAN 2; now LAN 2 machine wants to reach client |
| 06:41.44 | GhostlyDeath | ksnp: The OpenVPN server does all the work |
| 06:42.06 | CoffeeIV | GhostlyDeath: I've been waiting for a client to IM me, who owes me money, for a week |
| 06:42.13 | CoffeeIV | just found out |
| 06:42.17 | ksnp | even for connection that has to be initiated from LAN 2 machine (not the server) to the client ?? |
| 06:42.18 | croddy | i am trying to configure a Xen guest to ask for the root filesystem LUKS passphrase over the serial console. i have added console=ttyS0 to the default kernel options and added the appropriate 'serial' and 'terminal' lines before the boot stanza but all that does is suppress asking for it on the VNC console. any ideas? |
| 06:42.24 | GhostlyDeath | CoffeeIV: switch to MSN I guess then, or have him e-mail you |
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| 06:42.35 | croddy | (console=ttyS0,57600n8 that is) |
| 06:42.46 | ksnp | ghostly : even for connection that has to be initiated from LAN 2 machine (not the server) to the client ?? |
| 06:43.00 | jelly-home | ksnp: not without tricks |
| 06:43.24 | CoffeeIV | GhostlyDeath: contacting him isn't an issue, but I would like to get the chat working -- I have been told installing the latest pidgin from source works |
| 06:43.46 | ksnp | jelly / ghostly : ya that's what i figured and i guess if I create a static route on the router, will the server take care of the rest ? do i need any port forwarding on the server - i guess no ? |
| 06:44.06 | GhostlyDeath | ksnp: Did you enable IP forwardind in /etc/sysctl.conf? |
| 06:44.09 | ksnp | ghostly : in which situ do i need the port forwarding ? |
| 06:44.14 | ksnp | oh IP forwarding |
| 06:44.15 | ksnp | ok |
| 06:44.20 | jelly-home | ksnp: sounds reasonable |
| 06:44.32 | ksnp | i guess i still need IP forwarding ? |
| 06:44.46 | jelly-home | ksnp: it's already enabled on a linux router |
| 06:44.46 | GhostlyDeath | Linux will just drop the packets |
| 06:44.52 | GhostlyDeath | making the stuff useless |
| 06:44.59 | cmyers_work | CoffeeIV: checking somethign |
| 06:45.11 | ksnp | ok, i guess i enable it in case it is not, create a static route on the router/gateway and i am done :) |
| 06:45.15 | ksnp | hopefully :) |
| 06:45.47 | cmyers_work | CoffeeIV: I am running squeeze right now, and yahoo is still "broke" on pidgin |
| 06:45.57 | cmyers_work | you probably have to actually build from source |
| 06:45.58 | CoffeeIV | ok |
| 06:46.10 | CoffeeIV | ok, thanks for checking for me ! |
| 06:46.19 | cmyers_work | or maybe ask the debian package maintainer if you can help him test it? |
| 06:47.56 | ksnp | ok i read the wiki on tap/tun and adv/disadv of bridged mode vs. router mode : it seems bridge mode is very simply and don't have to do much ? but in terms of stress on the debian cpu is bridged mode more ?? (i have about 4 clients and 2 machines on the server side involved at any one time is bridged mdoe) |
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| 06:48.35 | cmyers_work | CoffeeIV: still there? |
| 06:48.40 | CoffeeIV | yes |
| 06:48.55 | cmyers_work | CoffeeIV: according to http://pidgin.im the yahoo issues are fixed in 2.5.8 |
| 06:49.12 | cmyers_work | going to packages.debian.org and searching for "pidgin", I see that sid has 2.5.8-1 uploaded to it |
| 06:49.18 | cmyers_work | so you can install it from there. |
| 06:49.27 | cmyers_work | http://packages.debian.org/sid/pidgin |
| 06:49.32 | CoffeeIV | cmyers_work: ok, I will try that. Thanks ! |
| 06:49.37 | cmyers_work | no problem. |
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| 06:50.01 | ksnp | jelly/ghostly/pl4/dondelelcaro : bridged vs. routing mode and its stress on debian cpu for 4 clients and 2 server side machines ? |
| 06:50.10 | ksnp | can you tell me ?! |
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| 06:55.04 | anddam | where does procbususb get mounted in? |
| 06:55.55 | anddam | I tried to set gid and busgid for procbususb in /etc/fstab but they don't work at boot time, I have to manually umount/remount it after the boot is complete |
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| 06:56.12 | anddam | atm it is procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) |
| 06:56.47 | anddam | it should be (rw,busgid=121,busmode=0755,devmode=664,devgid=121) and it actually is so if I mount by hand |
| 06:56.50 | JJOliver | I'm having a problem following a tutorial about setting up a LDAP, specifically i'm getting an error when 'slapadd -l |
| 06:57.08 | JJOliver | getting an Server1:/home/josh# slapadd -l ~/slapd.ldif |
| 06:57.08 | JJOliver | Error, entries missing! |
| 06:57.19 | anddam | but I'd like to have it configure properly so that I dont have to handle it by hand |
| 06:58.03 | JJOliver | Any suggestions about fixing the Error, entries missing?! |
| 06:58.06 | Lirion | JJOliver probably your LDIF syntax is missing something |
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| 06:59.03 | ksnp | i am trying to reach server side LAN from client and it doesn't work : |
| 06:59.08 | ksnp | i see the conf file and it says : |
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| 06:59.23 | JJOliver | http://pastebin.ca/1481585 |
| 06:59.24 | JJOliver | Lirion: that's the ldif file |
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| 06:59.57 | ksnp | the machines "alos need to route the openvpn client address pool back to the openvpn server" (connection is initiated by the client not server side machine) |
| 07:00.23 | ksnp | jelly ? |
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| 07:00.30 | ksnp | or ghostly ? |
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| 07:03.21 | ksnp | cmyers : can you let me know about this openvpn issue ? |
| 07:03.25 | henux | excuse me. how do i specify which of those /etc/init.d startup scripts to run at system boot? |
| 07:03.58 | cmyers_work | ksnp: I don't know. Probably nobody knows or they would have told you, and explicitly listing peoples names isn't going to make them know how to solve your problem. |
| 07:04.31 | cmyers_work | this room is for debian specific help, and setting up a network tunnel is not really related to debian |
| 07:04.35 | ksnp | well i was trying to catch thier attention cos, otherwise you can't say whom it is addressed to :) |
| 07:04.52 | jelly-home | ksnp: anyone has freedom to answer what they know |
| 07:04.56 | ksnp | the openpvpn channel is dead unfortunately :) |
| 07:04.59 | JJOliver | Questions are addressed to the room, not person. |
| 07:05.38 | JJOliver | The openvpn may appear dead for now, but perhaps the people are asleep and you won't get your question answered within 5 minutes. |
| 07:05.43 | ksnp | a new one i guess, yeah, but if youare already in a thread of conversation, i guess it might make it easier, anyways looks like most of mine are qeustions, so i guess i may not need |
| 07:05.49 | ksnp | hehe, 5 minutes ? |
| 07:06.20 | ksnp | anyway nevermind |
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| 07:06.27 | JJOliver | (-: |
| 07:06.50 | cmyers_work | henux: it looks like /etc/rcX.d contains a symlink to each startup script which is run in that runlevel |
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| 07:07.01 | cmyers_work | I am not sure what manages those symlinks, however. |
| 07:07.31 | JJOliver | Anyone free to have a look at my ldif config file and tell me why I'm getting an error on line 57 or 61? http://pastebin.ca/1481585 |
| 07:08.18 | cmyers_work | JJOliver: I looked, but I don't know much about ldiff, and nothing sticks out to me =/ |
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| 07:08.32 | JJOliver | sure . . . thanks. |
| 07:08.45 | sylar | why when I reply to a bug I don't see my reply listed? |
| 07:08.59 | thrashold | Hello. I'm trying to build packages for Enlightenment. Can anyone give a hint what I should do at this point? http://pastebin.com/m4176d880 |
| 07:08.59 | JJOliver | could there be a bug in the bug reply?! |
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| 07:13.35 | JJOliver | Holy Moly. I just realised my problem. |
| 07:13.55 | JJOliver | I have already accidentally created a ldap. |
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| 07:16.44 | TheQ | Moin |
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| 07:19.33 | thrashold | When is the `no dependency information found for library-file (used by binary)' error given by dpkg-shlibdeps? |
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| 07:20.06 | cmyers_work | thrashold: I have never built a package before, but I believe the dependency is in the control file. Are you sure your control file is there and correct? |
| 07:20.27 | cmyers_work | the "dependency info" is in the control file, that is |
| 07:20.52 | thrashold | cmyers_work: I'm not, however I have no idea what are the possible meanings of the errors, so I would not know how to fix it if it wasn't. |
| 07:21.04 | thrashold | s/errors/error are/ |
| 07:21.15 | cmyers_work | wish I could be more helpful =/ |
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| 07:23.34 | thrashold | OK, thank you, I'll look at the control file now and I hope to find the problem ;) |
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| 07:28.08 | OpenTokix | mrbob009: You can onlt read /etc/shadow as root |
| 07:28.14 | OpenTokix | only |
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| 07:29.28 | henux | cmyers_work: thanks |
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| 07:36.11 | ksnp | hi, is it possible to make debian act as a router with NAT 2 along with openvpn - so that client <--internet--> NAT 1 (with port forwarding for openvpn) <-- debian --> LAN 1 and LAN 1 machines can reach client via debian acting as a NAT to reach the client ? |
| 07:36.28 | ksnp | reason is to avoid having to change the LAN 1 regular router's static routes |
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| 07:40.50 | superlinux | hi all |
| 07:41.40 | JJOliver | Hi superlinux |
| 07:42.08 | JJOliver | Anyone know how to get rid of all your LPAD's so I can retart my tutorial from afresh? |
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| 07:43.07 | superlinux | i have tutorial videos that i made . They are about debian installation. they are on my server. www.superlinux.net. just click the links. discard the Arabic. videos are in arabic and english at the same time. I hope you download them. they are FREE! |
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| 07:43.43 | superlinux | JJOliver, hi. |
| 07:43.59 | JJOliver | How you doing today? |
| 07:44.04 | superlinux | fine. |
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| 07:44.16 | JJOliver | Cool |
| 07:44.17 | rdz | hi all. i would like to use rsync to synchronize a local folder with a mounted samba share. is there a way to tell rsync to check only filesize and filename, but not timestamp nor permission/owner/group? |
| 07:44.49 | superlinux | just open my home based server. www.superlinux.net. download the videos about debian. RAID and LVM discussed |
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| 07:45.07 | superlinux | i am talking from it. |
| 07:45.32 | spikeb | no english version |
| 07:45.46 | superlinux | just browse the links |
| 07:45.56 | superlinux | forget about the arabic |
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| 07:46.29 | superlinux | i will soon make an english version |
| 07:46.37 | superlinux | .. of the index page. |
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| 07:47.21 | superlinux | i am not going to run this server too often. so just download them whenever i am online. |
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| 07:48.36 | superlinux | spikeb, is that ok? |
| 07:48.54 | no_maam | what happened to apt in unstable? |
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| 07:49.15 | spikeb | sure |
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| 07:52.07 | JJOliver | Hey how do I check to see what sd drive my USB stick is? |
| 07:52.54 | sylar | anyone knows about gnome trash + ocfs2 ? |
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| 07:53.41 | superlinux | JJOliver, you just do ls /dev/sd(here you press TAB twice) |
| 07:53.59 | superlinux | or another way is fdisk -l |
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| 07:56.57 | JJOliver | thanks |
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| 07:57.09 | JJOliver | fdisk was 'more informative' |
| 07:57.39 | superlinux | aha |
| 07:57.45 | superlinux | good |
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| 07:59.47 | robin | greetings, I just upgraded from etch to lenny and my wifi wont work, its eems its trying to use the iwl3945 drivers in stead of the ipw3945 drivers .. |
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| 08:00.28 | buu | Hrm |
| 08:00.37 | buu | How come the only search results for xen-linux-system are for amd64? |
| 08:01.02 | robin | anyway ... I followed the howto for iwl3945, but the wifi active light remains off and it wont scan for ap's "network is down" |
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| 08:02.08 | robin | now, if I could rememebr how to install the ipw3945 mods ... |
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| 08:04.17 | There | hi |
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| 08:08.19 | Gratz474 | is there any qt based wm's ? |
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| 08:09.15 | blouf | Gratz474: nobody's crazy |
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| 08:11.03 | scream_ | netsplit ftw :) |
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| 08:12.28 | jony123 | hey hmm i need a good light weight email mail cleint i've been using mutt but know i want something more graphical |
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| 08:15.48 | Slidey | can anyone suggest a small (size wise) mp3 player in lenny that integrates well with firefox (ie via foxytunes) - in etch i used xmms but thats been deprecated, and xmms2 doesnt have a proper gui from what i can see.. |
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| 08:17.12 | kiss | HI |
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| 08:17.16 | kiss | AME KISS |
| 08:17.16 | Slidey | oh, and id prefer it if it didnt crash randomly (like when adding a large number of mp3's to its playlist) |
| 08:17.20 | kiss | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.26 | kiss | AME PV |
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| 08:17.47 | kiss | CONTACT PV |
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| 08:18.03 | pbn | looks like this fellow is on the wrong channel |
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| 08:18.26 | scream_ | Slidey, consider mpd and one of it's many frontends |
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| 08:19.17 | Slidey | ta |
| 08:19.41 | robin | duh! .. so apparently, the iwl3945 module needs the firmware-iwlwifi package to work .. but doenst install it by defualt .. |
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| 08:19.47 | robin | what craziness is that? |
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| 08:20.19 | scream_ | jony123, Sylpheed? used it on zaurus, seems pretty lightweight and feature full :) |
| 08:20.38 | jony123 | apt-get install Sylpheed ? |
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| 08:20.45 | ethanol | apt-get install thunderbird |
| 08:20.47 | ethanol | :> |
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| 08:21.06 | scream_ | ethanol, iceweasel ;) |
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| 08:21.12 | ethanol | :< |
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| 08:21.56 | scream_ | jony123, better claws-mail. the same, but with GTK2 |
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| 08:23.18 | There | ahaa |
| 08:23.39 | There | where are u from |
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| 08:23.47 | gum2tux_ | my system has stop to load GUI using command "update-rc.d -f gdm remove", and startx whenever i want, and it work fine, but after a few time of switching between CLI and GUI. |
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| 08:24.08 | gum2tux_ | then when startx the system hang |
| 08:24.40 | gum2tux_ | and ssh to it and not respond, how do i troubleshoot the problem ? |
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| 08:25.46 | buu | Hrm. When I start uml, it's failing trying to open xterm. |
| 08:25.48 | buu | I have no X.. |
| 08:25.51 | miickee | Just a quick question, which program is best to use in debian for managing files on my ipod? |
| 08:25.52 | buu | Why is it even trying? |
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| 08:28.06 | enouf | gum2tux_: ls -l /etc/init.d/gdm* says ? |
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| 08:28.53 | qiyong | is there any realtime traffic monitor tool? |
| 08:28.53 | qiyong | i know some, like bwm, traffshow, but i ask the most popular ones here. |
| 08:29.09 | enouf | iptraf? |
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| 08:29.45 | enouf | etherape? (gui) |
| 08:29.49 | jelly | buu: by deafult it binds a few virtual consoles to xterms |
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| 08:30.09 | buu | Yeah.. |
| 08:30.23 | jelly | buu: you can tell it to do differently; I used to open a screen session and screens inside would map to vc-s |
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| 08:30.52 | jelly | I don't have that setup any more, but it should be reasonably googlable |
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| 08:31.33 | gum2tux_ | enouf, it show -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 2345 2009-03-12 22:03 /etc/init.d/gdm |
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| 08:31.43 | Gumby | hi all... this might be a little off topic but I know there are a lot of smart people here. I need to retrieve the gateway that the WAN connection of my router gets when using DHCP to get its IP from my ISP. the router doesnt show it. Does anyone know a way to do this? |
| 08:31.51 | buu | jelly: I'm trying.. at the moment I'm trying to modify the /etc/inittab? |
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| 08:32.15 | bzed | Gumby: what do you want with it? that's usually no tuseful |
| 08:32.21 | bzed | Gumby: but traceroute should show it |
| 08:32.26 | jelly | buu: afair it was an outside uml setup |
| 08:32.29 | enouf | gum2tux_: ok, consider mv that file out of the way, what does cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager say? |
| 08:32.38 | jelly | buu: like, command lines |
| 08:32.41 | buu | jelly: INIT: cannot execute "/sbin/agetty" |
| 08:32.42 | buu | bleh |
| 08:32.50 | Gumby | bzed, it doesnt unfortunately. (I need it to mirror my IP/Gateway/DNS etc on a different router) |
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| 08:33.09 | jelly | buu: yeah well, if there's no vc, it won't be able to start a getty on it |
| 08:33.11 | Gumby | bzed, as soon as it gets inside my ISPs domain it only shows * * * * |
| 08:33.29 | enouf | wouldn't whois, or dig show the gateway? |
| 08:34.05 | enouf | (maybe i misunderstand) |
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| 08:35.12 | buu | jelly: This is silly. |
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| 08:35.55 | enouf | gum2tux_: also, do you switch runlevels when you go from CLI <-> GUI ? You shouldn't need to run startx more than once, and switching from Console (tty1-6) <-> Xserver (tty7) should be as easy as {ctrl}-alt-Fn |
| 08:35.59 | miickee | I've lost my laptop battery charge/remaining% thing on the panel, now when I add another to the panel it says it has 0%, and won't charge cause when I take it out it will say "battery power critically low" and turn off, when it's been charging for days. Can't be faulty laptop cause it's new and was charging before today |
| 08:36.15 | lesshaste | I've removed the /var/cache/debconf directory by mistake, how can I restore it? It makes apt-get install unhappy |
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| 08:36.54 | miickee | Wait, fixed it |
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| 08:37.05 | miickee | Wait, not still not charging :S |
| 08:37.06 | enouf | gum2tux_: perhaps you're not shutting the Xserver down properly, if you do indeed kill it - check for leftover lock files in /var and /tmp when you do kill X, how do you shutdown Xserver anyway? |
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| 08:37.36 | enouf | lesshaste: dpkg-reconfigure debconf ? |
| 08:37.48 | dancor | is there a firefox/iceweasel 3.5 x86_64 package? i couldn't find one on packages.debian.org |
| 08:37.57 | enouf | lesshaste: at worst, /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 08:38.32 | lesshaste | enouf: option a didn't work.. I'll try b |
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| 08:38.35 | buu | jelly: What do you suppose Virtual console 1 assigned device '/dev/pts/4' |
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| 08:39.11 | Supaplex | releases a large plume of methane gas for all to enjoy |
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| 08:39.56 | liable | gee thanks! |
| 08:40.05 | enouf | !moo |
| 08:40.05 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo. aplay /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
| 08:40.40 | gum2tux_ | enouf, i cannot do anything -- it is completely hang |
| 08:40.43 | enouf | dancor: i don't think so, not sure - i think it |
| 08:40.50 | enouf | 's called some other name dancor |
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| 08:40.57 | dancor | mm |
| 08:41.02 | gum2tux_ | i can only press the button for hard reset |
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| 08:41.16 | enouf | gum2tux_: learn sysrq ; /msg dpkg sysrq |
| 08:41.37 | lomanti | Hey folks ! Question: CUPS says: application/postscript not supported. Why is there anything I need to install for it ? |
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| 08:41.43 | gum2tux_ | enouf, startx to got GUI, logon back to CLI |
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| 08:42.09 | gum2tux_ | enouf, *logout to back to CLI |
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| 08:42.21 | enouf | gum2tux_: startx to get GUI, then why not just ctrl-alt-F1-6 to get to Console? |
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| 08:42.38 | enouf | logout? as in 'logout' ? |
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| 08:42.48 | enouf | or some clicky thingy? |
| 08:43.31 | gum2tux_ | i try not to load Xserver -- bcos ppl told me not to run GUI for server |
| 08:43.40 | enouf | gum2tux_: you're likely trying to fire up multiple instances of X without even knowing it |
| 08:43.55 | ksnp | i am trying to disable firewall using iptables on a tun interface - if i have multiple tuns, how do i tell which tun ? |
| 08:44.19 | gum2tux_ | enouf, I am newbie, I use linux just for my VMware, what should i do ? |
| 08:44.19 | enouf | gum2tux_: you need atleast a tty for that to work, defined in /etc/inittab .. but i don't think that's what you want anyway |
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| 08:44.49 | enouf | gum2tux_: we all were new .. once ;-) read, read, practice, read some more ;-) |
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| 08:45.47 | enouf | gum2tux_: /msg dpkg nodm (in your irc client) as well as that other one (/msg dpkg sysrq) |
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| 08:46.04 | enouf | !+tell gum2tux_ -about msgthebot |
| 08:46.05 | dpkg | told gum2tux_ about msgthebot. |
| 08:46.07 | gum2tux_ | enouf, ok, today i learnt not to startx server as I like |
| 08:46.10 | cbr1000 | Hello all. I use Debian etch (kernel 2.6.18-6-686) with processor via C7. My box freeze one time by day |
| 08:46.11 | pbn | Hi there could someone look into why pidgin 2.5.8 isn't in testing yet ? The page http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=pidgin says it's old enough but that the package zephyr isn't built yet...perhaps should someone build zephyr manually ? |
| 08:46.31 | cbr1000 | so I downgtrade libc6 and i have always these freeze |
| 08:46.34 | fireba11 | cbr1000: did you do a health check on the box? |
| 08:46.41 | cbr1000 | how can I fixe this problem? |
| 08:46.43 | cbr1000 | thanks |
| 08:47.07 | cbr1000 | my libc6 version is: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 |
| 08:47.23 | enouf | cbr1000: try a newer kernel? (etch-backports) do not let the installation remove your working one |
| 08:47.28 | fireba11 | cbr1000: did you make sure the ahrdware is okay at all? |
| 08:47.51 | enouf | judd: versions libc6 |
| 08:47.51 | cbr1000 | yes my hardware is ok. So I have about 10 box with same problem :( |
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| 08:47.54 | judd | enouf: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-12 sid: 2.9-18 |
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| 08:48.05 | thefeds | Doesn't deb use old packages? |
| 08:48.22 | enouf | why did you downgrade? what version DID you have prior? |
| 08:48.55 | cbr1000 | before I have 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 and I downgrade to 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 |
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| 08:49.03 | enouf | 10 boxes? all same CPU + same Mainboard? |
| 08:49.17 | cbr1000 | yes |
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| 08:49.22 | enouf | cbr1000: ok, now why did you think that would fix it? |
| 08:49.26 | cbr1000 | 10 boxe with via C7 |
| 08:49.31 | enouf | cbr1000: seen a bug report? |
| 08:49.37 | fireba11 | enouf: my thoughts exactly :-) |
| 08:49.43 | cbr1000 | I saw this URL: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-glibc@lists.debian.org/msg39630.html |
| 08:50.46 | enouf | cbr1000: well .. before i read all that - try upgrading one machine to the Etch libc6 (the version you had) and install an etch-backports .24 or .26 kernel and try those |
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| 08:51.19 | cbr1000 | ok, but why this problem appear? |
| 08:51.20 | enouf | cbr1000: do any of the boxes have more than 1G of RAM? |
| 08:51.33 | enouf | cbr1000: not sure - what exactly happens? |
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| 08:52.02 | cbr1000 | no 512 MB |
| 08:52.15 | enouf | cbr1000: then also try the -486 kernels |
| 08:52.21 | cbr1000 | why this freeze appear? do you have any idea? |
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| 08:52.56 | enouf | cbr1000: i don't know offhand - i think i recall reading some issues way back, about VIA CPUs and the C7s ... i can't recall though |
| 08:53.17 | enouf | those are like mini/micro-ATX? |
| 08:53.22 | cbr1000 | enouf, I must use -686 kernel.... I use asterisk with BRI cards and i must install -686 |
| 08:53.28 | cbr1000 | mini itx |
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| 08:53.39 | enouf | right itx .. doh |
| 08:54.09 | enouf | asterisk and BRI cards need -686 MMX features? |
| 08:54.37 | cbr1000 | to compile misdn, these code are need linux-header 686 |
| 08:54.59 | enouf | cbr1000: you can compile on other boxes .. just a FYI ... |
| 08:55.00 | cbr1000 | before I try to compile misdn with 486 and It not work |
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| 08:55.49 | enouf | cbr1000: did the machines freeze when -486 was installed? |
| 08:56.30 | cbr1000 | I don't know, I have only -686. but Before, I used Via C3, and this problem is never appeared |
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| 08:58.14 | enouf | hrm .. interesting bug .. |
| 08:58.23 | cbr1000 | :( |
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| 08:58.49 | enouf | cbr1000: try a newer kernel - as mentioned etchnhalf .24 and etch-backports .26 |
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| 09:00.19 | cbr1000 | with etchnhalf .24 I have the same problem |
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| 09:02.10 | ethanol | cbr1000: you ride a cbr1000 ? |
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| 09:02.20 | cbr1000 | yes lol |
| 09:02.24 | ethanol | sexy |
| 09:02.28 | cbr1000 | :o |
| 09:02.30 | dancor | i guess i'll just build ff3.5 a la http://markshroyer.com/blog/2009/07/firefox-35-debian-amd64.html |
| 09:02.30 | ethanol | I just got myself an sv1000 |
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| 09:02.59 | cbr1000 | sv1000, it's good bike (twin) :) |
| 09:03.13 | ethanol | aye, driven it a few times already. love the torque |
| 09:03.43 | enouf | cbr1000: (just some long shots and hunches) "lsmod | grep e_powersaver" ; grep X86_E_POWERSAVER /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 09:03.45 | lesshaste | enouf: out of interest.. are you debian only these days? |
| 09:04.01 | enouf | lesshaste: i've always been :-P |
| 09:04.11 | lesshaste | enouf: :) ah.. I must remember you from somewhere else |
| 09:04.27 | cbr1000 | enouf: this command return nothing for me |
| 09:05.00 | ethanol | cbr1000: they're actually 2 commands, I reckon |
| 09:05.00 | enouf | yes, i get around :-P ~/o i'm just a gigolo, and everywhere i go ... ~/o |
| 09:05.09 | lesshaste | enouf: mplayer? I really can't remember |
| 09:05.11 | lesshaste | I am tooo old |
| 09:05.13 | enouf | cbr1000: the 1st one returning nothing is good |
| 09:05.19 | enouf | lesshaste: yep ;-) |
| 09:05.23 | lesshaste | enouf: aha :) |
| 09:05.26 | cbr1000 | the second return nothing too |
| 09:05.27 | enouf | lesshaste: me too |
| 09:05.39 | enouf | cbr1000: ouch - and what does cat /proc/version say? |
| 09:06.08 | enouf | cbr1000: it was likely not yet put into the kernel at ~ .18 yet |
| 09:06.21 | enouf | http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/Kconfig#L222 |
| 09:06.35 | CharminTheMoose | enouf, |
| 09:06.41 | cbr1000 | Linux version 2.6.18-6-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-24etch2) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Tue May 5 00:40:20 UTC 2009 |
| 09:06.46 | enouf | CharminTheMoose: m00sH! |
| 09:06.51 | CharminTheMoose | :DD HAI |
| 09:07.24 | enouf | cbr1000: i see ... ok - are you using any sort of cpu frequency scaling or powersaving or suspend/hibernate? |
| 09:07.41 | CharminTheMoose | Does anyone know if I can use sox to convert a bunch of mp3s to .wav files with a bitrate of 11025? |
| 09:07.50 | CharminTheMoose | rather 11025hz? |
| 09:07.54 | ethanol | people still use wav's? |
| 09:08.08 | enouf | WAVs ftw -- 1411kb/sec :-p |
| 09:08.19 | enouf | none of this mp3 bitrate nonsesne |
| 09:08.20 | ethanol | just go with flacc then :< |
| 09:08.25 | ethanol | or that monkey crap |
| 09:08.35 | ethanol | forgot the name |
| 09:08.53 | enouf | yeah, some ape shit :-p |
| 09:08.56 | ethanol | yeah |
| 09:08.57 | ethanol | ape |
| 09:08.57 | lesshaste | enouf: wavs rock :) |
| 09:08.57 | ethanol | :p |
| 09:09.13 | CharminTheMoose | heh |
| 09:09.14 | cbr1000 | enouf: No I not using this |
| 09:09.38 | cbr1000 | this problem can appear at random time... |
| 09:10.00 | CharminTheMoose | Well, I need it for a game for playing music inside the game.. so it has to be a mono wave file at 11025hz. :/ |
| 09:10.07 | buu | So I have networking mostly working inside my uml machine, I can ping ip addresses, but I can't ping domain names. My /etc/resolve.conf is nameserver 4.2.2.1 |
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| 09:10.19 | buu | Er, /etc/resolv.conf =/ |
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| 09:11.18 | buu | Nm. Tried a different dns server. Success! |
| 09:11.56 | lesshaste | enouf: I think the debconf suggestion might have killed my system :) |
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| 09:14.21 | cbr1000 | There is another link about this problem: http://mirror.be.gbxs.net/bugs.debian.org/bts-spool-db/45/507845.report |
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| 09:14.35 | rhyhann | Hi |
| 09:14.54 | rhyhann | I have just installed Debian on my server and the only thing I did for the moment is setting a new user |
| 09:15.11 | rhyhann | Is there any tutorial on how to configure it well ? |
| 09:15.23 | rhyhann | I want this server to be easy to maintain |
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| 09:17.39 | enouf | cbr1000: sorry, but it's beyond my skill to debug these types of issues, i try to narrow it down to specific kernels (and possible configs), modules loaded, or as you think; certain libc6 versions ... |
| 09:17.54 | enouf | lesshaste: heh |
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| 09:19.04 | enouf | cbr1000: for ex; "In the other hand, I've found a similar bug report in Gentoo [1], if it can help to resolve this. As clearly explained in the gentoo bug report, this is not a glibc problem, but rather a kernel problem. The glibc may trigger a kernel bug, but the bug has to be fixed in the kernel" |
| 09:19.20 | enouf | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-glibc@lists.debian.org/msg39660.html |
| 09:19.25 | cbr1000 | enouf, I red the gentoo bugs... thanks |
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| 09:21.38 | enouf | rhyhann: /msg dpkg groups (and read the resultant docs mentioned) the 'debian-reference' pkg is a good read too - available online as well - it all depends what you want/need the user to be able to do |
| 09:22.03 | rhyhann | Ok |
| 09:22.10 | rhyhann | enouf: I'm the only user |
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| 09:23.47 | obnauticus | what's thjat package called that automatically can dectect and parse http directories and download it in batch |
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| 09:24.11 | enouf | rhyhann: yes, but in order for any user to run applications according to proper perms, they should/need to 'belong' to the corresponding groups (for ex; here, my username is in " adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev staff saned powerdev" <-- 'groups' as username (and see man id) will show you) |
| 09:24.51 | rhyhann | enouf: What is the meaning of that message ? http://pastie.org/531835 |
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| 09:25.29 | enouf | rhyhann: i use gpasswd to add username to any new group, but there are other tools, with useradd do not forget the -a then the -G to append, otherwise you wipe them from whatever groups they were already in |
| 09:25.48 | rhyhann | Ok |
| 09:26.07 | rhyhann | But how about that locale which is complained by perl ? |
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| 09:26.41 | enouf | rhyhann: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 09:26.49 | enouf | as root / su / sudo |
| 09:27.13 | enouf | !tell rhyhann about locales |
| 09:27.19 | rhyhann | Have already tried it |
| 09:27.42 | rhyhann | Oops... My fault |
| 09:27.56 | rhyhann | locales is not included in the default stack |
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| 09:30.03 | enouf | rhyhann: my bad, not useradd, but *usermod* (which i refer to above) |
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| 09:32.05 | enouf | rhyhann: when you add a user to a group, you need to logout (that user fully) and login again for it to take affect - there's other sideways things one could do (newgrp) but stay away from that for now |
| 09:32.20 | rhyhann | Ok |
| 09:32.25 | rhyhann | Thank you for your help |
| 09:32.32 | enouf | np |
| 09:33.00 | enouf | obnauticus: wget? |
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| 09:34.48 | venomen | Looo! You are on mybrute and want to get a bear? Be my Pupil and get one GUERANTEED at Level4 experience at the game: http://lecktsmiamorsch.mybrute.com/ get my Pupil! |
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| 09:35.05 | hoxu | !ops venomen spamming |
| 09:35.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: hoxu complains about: venomen spamming |
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| 09:39.07 | NiLon | is experimental same as unstable? |
| 09:39.14 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:39.32 | NiLon | isn't even more unstable? :p |
| 09:39.49 | petemc | potentially |
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| 09:40.05 | streuner_ | experiemental is the playground of DDs |
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| 09:40.15 | streuner_ | experimental |
| 09:41.36 | streuner_ | if you are insane enough just use experimental ;-) |
| 09:41.44 | enouf | there's a reason the endearing term 'mental' appears in that word :-P |
| 09:41.54 | streuner_ | hehe :-) |
| 09:42.10 | enouf | streuner_: there's hardly enough in it to be a full system ... just FWIW |
| 09:42.44 | streuner_ | enouf: sure |
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| 09:43.08 | enouf | ;-) |
| 09:43.16 | enouf | !qotd0 |
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| 09:53.40 | ksnp | i keep getting the following error with windows openvp client to openvpn server on debian. Any suggestions ? |
| 09:54.42 | Supaplex | `Abo: what's the pciid? |
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| 09:59.37 | Supaplex | anigma: cat /etc/group |
| 09:59.51 | davidc__ | any idea? |
| 10:00.25 | simonrvn | getent group | less (useful if you have something other than unix file-based stuff) |
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| 10:00.29 | Supaplex | davidc__: what debian release? |
| 10:00.33 | davidc__ | lenny |
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| 10:01.54 | gum2tux_ | when i logout GUI, i receive error (can u please advise me) http://picpaste.com/pics/After_logout_from_GUI.1246528805.jpg |
| 10:02.19 | Supaplex | davidc__: new install of mysql? |
| 10:02.34 | davidc__ | Supaplex: yup |
| 10:02.37 | davidc__ | fresh new system |
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| 10:03.00 | davidc__ | Server version5.0.51a-24+lenny1 |
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| 10:04.08 | MrWax | can anyone maybe explain me how i can setup a samba shared disk which i can mount in windows? |
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| 10:04.49 | `Abo | Supaplex, what I pasted above is all I know |
| 10:05.54 | Supaplex | davidc__: bugs.debian.org might have something, or you could purge and install it again. sounds like you have no database content, so make sure that's not in the way after you purge it. |
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| 10:08.08 | ksnp | liable : its |
| 10:09.03 | ksnp | Thu Jul 02 02:43:27 2009 VERIFY ERROR: depth=1, error=self signed certificate in certificate chain: /C=US/ST=CA/L=Test1_City/O=Test1/CN=Test1/emailAddress=me@myhost.mydomain |
| 10:09.03 | ksnp | Thu Jul 02 02:43:27 2009 TLS_ERROR: BIO read tls_read_plaintext error: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed |
| 10:09.03 | ksnp | Thu Jul 02 02:43:27 2009 TLS Error: TLS object -> incoming plaintext read error |
| 10:09.03 | ksnp | Thu Jul 02 02:43:27 2009 TLS Error: TLS handshake failed |
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| 10:10.00 | Supaplex | you efail |
| 10:10.08 | Supaplex | !tell ksnp -about paste |
| 10:10.25 | ksnp | ok |
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| 10:21.27 | enouf | cbr1000: aha! .. might have something here; http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30/arch/x86/Kconfig.cpu#L238 |
| 10:21.43 | enouf | $ grep MVIAC7 /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 10:21.44 | enouf | # CONFIG_MVIAC7 is not set |
| 10:21.57 | enouf | cbr1000: what does yours say? |
| 10:22.19 | enouf | "Select this for a VIA C7. Selecting this uses the correct cache shift and tells gcc to treat the CPU as a 686." |
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| 10:24.57 | enouf | i get the same from grepping configs for; 2.6.23-i386 (custom, IIRC) , (all 3 are Debian kernels -->) 2.6.26-1-686, 2.6.28-1-686, 2.6.29-2-686 |
| 10:25.02 | guyzmo | hi, I'm packaging a binary (so I'm not doing the full packaging process described in maint-guide) to deploy simply my firm's solutions... anyway, doing a lintian on my package I get : 'file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile' which is because I put all my configuration files in ./etc/packagename/ |
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| 10:25.37 | enouf | i don't think CONFIG_MVIAC7 was available ~ .18, not found in my .16 Debian |
| 10:25.38 | `Abo | is there a site or link which lists debian supported hardware, nics for example? |
| 10:25.43 | guyzmo | but I can't find a good M to RTFM to understand how to deploy configuration files within a .deb package, anyone can point me to something ? |
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| 10:26.01 | enouf | `Abo: heh, i was looking for you - but had this page open about an earlier issue :-P |
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| 10:27.12 | enouf | `Abo: i see; 104c 9096 Trendnet TEW-412PC Wireless PCI Adapter (Version A) and |
| 10:27.20 | enouf | 168c 2051 TRENDnet TEW-443PI Wireless PCI Adapter |
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| 10:30.51 | davidc__ | i can't figure out for hte love of me how to solve this mysql issue |
| 10:30.58 | davidc__ | Supaplex: |
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| 10:32.25 | enouf | `Abo: i don't think the 'kernel' does, not just Debian - http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30/drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig is all i can find that's NOT usb concerning Trendnet - though, you should check with #kernelnewbies.org since changes occur daily, and that's only the .30 kernel there, not the latest |
| 10:32.40 | enouf | !kernelnewbies |
| 10:32.49 | enouf | !listvals kernelnewbies |
| 10:32.51 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'kernelnewbies' by value (1): tux2fs. |
| 10:32.55 | enouf | ugh |
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| 10:33.22 | guyzmo | !help |
| 10:33.24 | enouf | `Abo: there also a channel called that either here, or on irc.debian.org |
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| 10:34.09 | enouf | Freetext search: trendnet (3 estimated hits) drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig, line 384 (100%) drivers/net/usb/Kconfig, line 152 (68%) drivers/net/usb/asix.c, line 1404 (46%) <--is all that returned in my search |
| 10:34.17 | davidc__ | hi guys, I'm having problems installing mysql-server, after doing a apt-get install mysql-server and downloading the necessary dependencies, i was prompted to set a root password which I did. After everything is running when I try to login as mysql -uroot -p, i get a access denied. I ran mysqld as --skip-grant-tables and noticed that in my mysql database and user table, there is no root |
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| 10:35.27 | guyzmo | dpkg - where can i find file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile |
| 10:35.27 | dpkg | guyzmo: wish i knew |
| 10:35.34 | guyzmo | :-S |
| 10:35.46 | enouf | cbr1000: compile a kernel (even using debian sources if you like, use .18 if you want, and IF that config option is available) .. and set that option! ;-) |
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| 10:38.35 | enouf | cbr1000: the 1st mention of anything about Via C7 is in .22, so you need atleast .24 since the .22 option is only for M386, not the option i showed |
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| 10:39.09 | enouf | oh wait - it is there, (CONFIG_MVIAC7) in .22 |
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| 10:39.48 | |Z_E_R_O| | ave |
| 10:39.50 | enouf | but etchnhalf has a .24, so grab that source and recompile it ;-) |
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| 10:40.15 | cbr1000 | enouf, which option? |
| 10:40.31 | enouf | davidc__: try /msg dpkg ifmsrp |
| 10:40.43 | enouf | cbr1000: read what i wrote? |
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| 10:40.51 | mmu_screen | hi |
| 10:40.53 | mmu_screen | hm is it planned to update libcairo on 5.0 someday ? I have a bug on svg gradient with rsvg :-( |
| 10:41.25 | enouf | davidc__: sorry, its ifmrp |
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| 10:41.47 | cbr1000 | enouf, thx for your url |
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| 10:42.34 | enouf | cbr1000: no prob - install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev fakeroot (and kernel source) and get started ;-) |
| 10:42.59 | davidc__ | ? |
| 10:43.12 | enouf | !ifmrp |
| 10:43.12 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the mysql root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start, or http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html, or <mysql initial password> |
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| 10:43.31 | davidc__ | err enouf there isn't a user root |
| 10:43.53 | davidc__ | so changing the password does nothing |
| 10:43.56 | enouf | er " downloading the necessary dependencies, i was prompted to set a root password which I did." |
| 10:44.03 | davidc__ | yup |
| 10:44.06 | davidc__ | which is the problem |
| 10:44.10 | davidc__ | i did mysql_safe |
| 10:44.11 | davidc__ | mysqld |
| 10:44.13 | enouf | nfc |
| 10:44.14 | davidc__ | and skipped the grant tables |
| 10:44.20 | davidc__ | and there's no users |
| 10:44.50 | themill | guyzmo: lintian-info -t file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile |
| 10:44.59 | JyZyXEL | how do i debug what is using unusual amount of CPU in X server? |
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| 10:45.57 | enouf | top/htop? or you mean X itself? |
| 10:46.15 | JyZyXEL | yea in X itself |
| 10:46.29 | JyZyXEL | like the reason why X is using the CPU it uses |
| 10:46.36 | enouf | ask in #debian-x perhaps, if they have the patience for you :-P |
| 10:46.49 | mmu_screen | can someone tell me why gnome-themes & gnome-themes-extra which are data only packages depend on libs ? |
| 10:46.54 | mmu_screen | oh well :^) |
| 10:46.54 | enouf | see the /topic there for starters, follow URLs |
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| 10:47.09 | davidc__ | hi guys, I'm having problems installing mysql-server, after doing a apt-get install mysql-server and downloading the necessary dependencies, i was prompted to set a root password which I did. After everything is running when I try to login as mysql -uroot -p, i get a access denied. I ran mysqld as --skip-grant-tables and noticed that in my mysql database and user table, there is no root |
| 10:47.12 | enouf | it's on irc.debian.org (OFTC,net) |
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| 10:49.05 | nkuttler | davidc__: that's odd. you can probably create the user with GRANT |
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| 10:49.16 | guyzmo | actually, about configuration files, I was wondering what shall I consider do to easily deploy them |
| 10:49.59 | nkuttler | guyzmo: what do you mean? |
| 10:50.05 | guyzmo | like for the same package I know I will have 10 sets of configuration files I will deploy on different servers and I'd like to avoid using scp/rsync or something like that to deploy them |
| 10:50.05 | enouf | JyZyXEL: might toy with valgrind too? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=218470 heh |
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| 10:50.22 | mquin | guyzmo: take a look at cfengine |
| 10:50.35 | enouf | (that's an old bug) |
| 10:50.44 | davidc__ | nkuttler: what's the full command? |
| 10:50.47 | JyZyXEL | valgrind - A memory debugger and profiler |
| 10:51.30 | nkuttler | davidc__: IIRC grant all on .* to 'root'@'localhost' identified by 'password'; |
| 10:51.38 | nkuttler | davidc__: might be *.* or * though |
| 10:52.04 | guyzmo | mquin - seems nice |
| 10:52.15 | guyzmo | mquin - I've been also told about puppet by a friend |
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| 10:54.11 | davidc__ | mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'root'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'test' with GRANT OPTION; |
| 10:54.12 | nkuttler | davidc__: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/adding-users.html |
| 10:54.14 | davidc__ | ERROR 1290 (HY000): The MySQL server is running with the --skip-grant-tables option so it cannot execute this statement |
| 10:54.19 | davidc__ | which is absolutely weird. |
| 10:54.35 | nkuttler | davidc__: #mysql, or purge and reinstall i guess |
| 10:54.43 | enouf | JyZyXEL: no idea how current this info is; but see "The configure script tests the version of the X server currently ....." paragraph here http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/manual-core.html |
| 10:55.14 | JyZyXEL | sysprof and oprofile were suggested on oftc |
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| 10:58.07 | inckie | hello, i changed my servers hostname and now i cannot send any mails with postfix, i changed old hostname --> new hostname in /etc/postfix/main.cf |
| 10:58.10 | Supaplex | I suppose this fails, as packets get dropped as a spoof check? cyrus unix - n n - - pipe flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -e ${user} |
| 10:58.13 | inckie | and /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts |
| 10:58.18 | Supaplex | bah. wrong clipboard. :P |
| 10:58.51 | Supaplex | -A PREROUTING -s hosta -d eth0-ip -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5555 -j DNAT --to-destination 127.0.0.1:5555 |
| 10:58.52 | greenmang0 | Xfce running on Debian Stable does'nt mount Flash Drive... what's the solution? |
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| 10:59.08 | greenmang0 | nkuttler: ^^ |
| 10:59.42 | nkuttler | greenmang0: ?? |
| 10:59.56 | greenmang0 | nkuttler: Xfce running on Debian Stable does'nt mount Flash Drive... what's the solution? |
| 11:00.23 | Supaplex | !tell greenmang0 -about repeat |
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| 11:00.36 | cire | I need a screen-recorder for X (KDE). Which would you recommend? |
| 11:00.46 | cire | At the end there should be a video |
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| 11:02.23 | twinkie_addict | hi |
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| 11:03.01 | twinkie_addict | how whould i go about installing the kfreebsd kernel ? or is it no longer naintained ? |
| 11:03.24 | enouf | JyZyXEL: i wonder if SystemTap has ever matured yet - http://sourceware.org/systemtap/documentation.html |
| 11:03.45 | JyZyXEL | well i can say that the sysperf was completely useless |
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| 11:04.13 | JyZyXEL | oh apparently i need xserver-xorg-core-dbg |
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| 11:06.21 | mesut | hi,trying to change crontab editor to vim, but : # update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim |
| 11:06.21 | mesut | update-alternatives: Cannot find alternative `/usr/bin/vim'. |
| 11:06.32 | mesut | actually, /usr/bin/vim exists. |
| 11:07.34 | enouf | JyZyXEL: well .. duh |
| 11:07.43 | enouf | JyZyXEL: and likely more |
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| 11:09.12 | Arrowmaster | mesut: /usr/bin/vim is also handled by update-alternatives so thats probably why |
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| 11:09.53 | nkuttler | mesut: --config editor |
| 11:10.02 | yac | have anybody encountered that psi just freezes when u try to type something in conversations? (2.6.26-2-amd64 squeeze) |
| 11:10.23 | mesut | both comments was helpful thanks |
| 11:10.35 | enouf | ruh roh; https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2008-discuss/2008-June/000189.html |
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| 11:12.50 | ethanol | yac: psi? |
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| 11:13.46 | yac | ethanol: yup, psi .. the jabber client |
| 11:14.12 | mesut | so, i add a cronjob as root, doing crontab -e, and saved it. than add some other job, with a regular user, doing crontab -e again. where does all that files saved ? |
| 11:14.19 | ethanol | yac: I imagine you'd best ask such questions in a psi related channel? |
| 11:14.25 | enouf | double ruh roh rhaggy! http://lwn.net/Articles/325638/ |
| 11:14.26 | jelly | twinkie_addict: kfreebsd is a whole separate debian arch - separate install media, you can't just replace the kernel but need to install anew |
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| 11:15.00 | enouf | mesut: crontab -l |
| 11:15.08 | jelly | !tell twinkie_addict about kfreebsd |
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| 11:15.46 | Sevet | mesut: probably /var/spool/cron/ directory, filename is the username |
| 11:15.46 | mesut | enouf, where does crontab -l read that info. thats what ive asked |
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| 11:16.07 | enouf | sorry .. my bad .. it's in /var |
| 11:16.11 | mesut | Sevet, thanks ! |
| 11:16.12 | Sevet | correction: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ |
| 11:16.15 | enouf | yeah |
| 11:16.58 | MrWax | getting a lot of errors, some samba packages missing at the debian server |
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| 11:17.01 | MrWax | is this correct? |
| 11:17.09 | MrWax | Failed to fetch http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/libwbclient0_3.2.5-4lenny2_amd64.deb 404 Not Found |
| 11:17.09 | poppiez | after upgrading to lenny courier can't convert group names to to numbers from userdb. I've been going crazy with this the last 2 hours, and I've just stumbled upon a guy who has the exact same problem. please see http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-02/msg02296.html - what is suddenly causing this? |
| 11:17.20 | MrWax | Failed to fetch http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.2.5-4lenny2_amd64.deb 404 Not Found |
| 11:17.23 | MrWax | Failed to fetch http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.2.5-4lenny2_amd64.deb 404 Not Found |
| 11:17.27 | MrWax | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| 11:17.31 | MrWax | is this usual? |
| 11:17.36 | themill | dpkg: tell MrWax about paste |
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| 11:17.41 | MrWax | i know sorry |
| 11:18.01 | twinkie_addict | ok i was wandering about that i found the page telluing me about it but cant fid where to download the iso |
| 11:18.02 | Sevet | MrWax: have you run 'apt-get update'? could be your list of files is out of date if a new version has been released |
| 11:18.07 | jelly | MrWax: and the errors persist after the suggested command is run? |
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| 11:18.20 | themill | MrWax: that's an ancient version of the package that it's trying to get. Run "aptitude update" then try again. |
| 11:18.25 | MrWax | oh wait |
| 11:18.30 | MrWax | apt-get update i just ran |
| 11:18.30 | MrWax | ok |
| 11:18.40 | MrWax | works now sorry |
| 11:18.43 | jelly | !be a reading barbie |
| 11:18.43 | dpkg | Aww, reading is HARD! Let's go shopping, jelly |
| 11:19.21 | RichiH | !jelly barbie |
| 11:19.33 | RichiH | grmbls |
| 11:19.35 | RichiH | !be a jelly barbie |
| 11:19.36 | dpkg | Aww, jelly is HARD! Let's go shopping, richih |
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| 11:21.22 | twinkie_addict | once intstall x brasero and icweasel ill get to looking for that iso |
| 11:21.28 | kalib | how can I upgrade just one package? just the xpackage, for example? |
| 11:21.31 | Supaplex | be a my hubbys weiner barbie |
| 11:21.36 | Supaplex | !be a my hubbys weiner barbie |
| 11:21.36 | dpkg | Aww, my hubbys weiner is HARD! Let's go shopping, supaplex |
| 11:21.37 | twinkie_addict | should be a fun mix debian and freebsd |
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| 11:21.55 | Supaplex | kalib: aptitude install <it> |
| 11:22.07 | kalib | ;] |
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| 11:23.58 | maxagaz | hi |
| 11:24.24 | maxagaz | how to make a route which goes from 10.100.101 to 10.201.1 ? |
| 11:24.34 | Supaplex | so with gatewayports = yes and remoteforward = interface.ip:port in .ssh/config for the host, why is it still listening only on localhost? |
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| 11:25.04 | Supaplex | maxagaz: you can't. you have too few octects in your address. |
| 11:25.24 | \amethyst | I imagine those are supposed to be /24s |
| 11:25.44 | Supaplex | he didn't say if it's a host, or a network either. |
| 11:26.05 | maxagaz | Supaplex, i mean from 10.100.101.254 to 10.201.1.x |
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| 11:26.40 | Supaplex | so 10.100.101.254 is your next hop for 10.201.1.0/24 ? |
| 11:27.44 | maxagaz | Supaplex, yes |
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| 11:28.29 | Supaplex | route add -net 10.201.1.0/24 gw 10.100.101.254 |
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| 11:28.43 | nareshov | hi |
| 11:29.25 | nareshov | i'm looking for a way to fetch the latest stable packages for a list of packages i have |
| 11:29.42 | nareshov | and arrange it in a "partial debian mirror" way |
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| 11:30.37 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:32.21 | nareshov | note: i have a list of the names of the packages (without version number in them) in a text file |
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| 11:33.38 | enouf | nareshov: use apt-get update ; apt-get -d .... |
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| 11:35.00 | nareshov | this list isn't from my system |
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| 11:36.51 | enouf | nareshov: you could probably just do something like 'apt-get -d $(cat /yourtextfile | xargs echo)' but that's not correct :-P |
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| 11:37.55 | enouf | nareshov: cp the file to have a backup, then use sed (or tr) to replace \n with a blank space or something, and feed that to apt-get |
| 11:38.02 | enouf | or aptitude .. |
| 11:38.09 | nareshov | oh, and, i'm on ubuntu and the packages i have to download is for a debian-stable system |
| 11:38.42 | enouf | nareshov: how many pkgs? about |
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| 11:39.53 | nareshov | 682 |
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| 11:40.52 | debuz | sup guys |
| 11:40.58 | debuz | kaffeine is complaining it can't play cds |
| 11:41.00 | debuz | any ideas? :) |
| 11:41.11 | enouf | hrm, i wonder if apt-ftparchive or something might be useful .. |
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| 11:41.32 | RichyR | Hi |
| 11:41.45 | pyqwer | Hi, does someone know how to install a .deb package on debian 5? |
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| 11:42.07 | pyqwer | apt-get install mypackage.deb does not work... |
| 11:42.21 | obcecado | dpkg -i pack.deb |
| 11:42.22 | dpkg | package pack.deb is already installed |
| 11:42.22 | nareshov | dpkg: dpkg @ pyqwer |
| 11:42.23 | dpkg | nareshov: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 11:42.32 | nareshov | hah |
| 11:42.35 | RichyR | Trying to install debian on an old p4/1.6ghz box I got lying around, first couple times I booted the installation worked and I got until "partition hard drives" and kept failing to create the mountpoints for them. So I tried again and now when I get to installation my CD-ROM won't even mount. |
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| 11:42.39 | nareshov | i'll look, thx |
| 11:42.43 | greenmang0 | nkuttler: well.. solved.. I installed thunar-volman and added myself to plugdev group.. now flash drive mounting is an easy game |
| 11:42.46 | enouf | or maybe even apt-zip? not sure ... |
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| 11:43.45 | nareshov | ah, let's see |
| 11:44.23 | dimm | somebody can give assistance with installing lenny on s390 ? |
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| 11:45.01 | enouf | nareshov: /msg dpkg debmirror (might be useful as well) |
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| 11:46.40 | enouf | RichyR: p4 are not that old - and you probably now have damaged the actual cdrom media from too much heat - try running check integrity option once it boots |
| 11:47.05 | RichyR | enouf: alright thanks. i hope it is that. |
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| 11:47.25 | enouf | RichyR: failed to create mount points? sounds like you had some sort of windows or mainboard RAID installed on the HDDs prior? |
| 11:47.31 | RichyR | enouf: want to get a lamp stack with php 5.3 going :D |
| 11:47.45 | RichyR | enouf: just windows, one IDE hdd. |
| 11:47.49 | enouf | RichyR: you can boot any livecd, wipe thye disk(s) using dd if=/dev/zero ... etc |
| 11:48.08 | enouf | RichyR: /msg dpkg check iso image |
| 11:48.19 | RichyR | enouf: didn't think of that.. cheers ;) |
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| 11:48.45 | enouf | RichyR: also, ensure there's no overclocking going on (BIOS- CPU and RAM and voltages and such) |
| 11:49.08 | themill | RichyR: php 5.3 is not yet in any debian release |
| 11:50.01 | RichyR | themill: i'll probably compile from source, want to write up a lil php 5.3 framewrk |
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| 11:50.39 | themill | If you want other people to be able to actually use your work, don't rely on stuff that is new in 5.3 |
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| 11:51.19 | IamSOG | man, I am hungry |
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| 11:51.35 | kvsn | Which command do I use to create a socket file? |
| 11:51.48 | themill | !feed IamSOG |
| 11:51.48 | dpkg | gives IamSOG a feeding he'll *never* forget. |
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| 11:52.08 | IamSOG | lol, nice :D |
| 11:52.25 | \amethyst | kvsn: netcat |
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| 11:52.51 | kvsn | \amethyst: thanks |
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| 11:54.54 | \amethyst | kvsn: ucspi-unix would be another way |
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| 11:55.56 | spvensko | is it normal to have my laptop going into suspend mode when unplugging it from the power source? i have it set to suspend when it's unplugged AND the lid is closed, but it seems to suspend just from being unplugged. any ideas? |
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| 11:56.45 | JJOliver | hey guys, i have a problem, i'm trying to zero out all data on a usb stick. |
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| 11:57.31 | JJOliver | I have fdisk -l which shows a memory stick on /dev/sdc1 |
| 11:57.47 | spvensko | zero out? as in format? |
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| 11:57.56 | JJOliver | with a fat16 file system. |
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| 11:58.09 | JJOliver | Zero out as in write 0 to every data part of the USB stick. |
| 11:58.13 | enouf | adds *socklist* to his bag of tools, though it doesn't seem to be ipv6 aware |
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| 11:58.30 | JJOliver | I did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=1m |
| 11:58.38 | enouf | and? |
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| 11:58.45 | JJOliver | It took ages and wrote 47GB of data |
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| 11:58.57 | JJOliver | to a 2GB stick but there are still files on it. |
| 11:59.10 | enouf | JJOliver: you want /dev/sdc, not just the partition, if you really want to also wipe the MBR and 1st 63 sectors |
| 11:59.27 | \amethyst | JJOliver: was it mounted when you did this? |
| 11:59.32 | enouf | JJOliver: yuo might have done it to wrong disk :-( |
| 12:00.00 | JJOliver | enouf: I only have 2 HD's in an they are sda sdb |
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| 12:00.07 | JJOliver | so the stick HAS to be sdc |
| 12:00.20 | JJOliver | It's mounted because under my gnome login I can see it. |
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| 12:00.27 | enouf | ugh |
| 12:00.27 | \amethyst | JJOliver: that's bad |
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| 12:00.33 | \amethyst | JJOliver: unmount it before you wipe |
| 12:00.39 | JJOliver | oh hehehe |
| 12:00.40 | \amethyst | JJOliver: otherwise you could crash your system |
| 12:00.56 | JJOliver | (-: |
| 12:01.06 | \amethyst | JJOliver: wiping sdc1 will leave you with a partition table, and an empty partition with no filesystem |
| 12:01.38 | \amethyst | JJOliver: wiping sdc will leave you with not even a partition table (you'll probably want to fdisk it before creating a new filesystem on it) |
| 12:01.55 | JJOliver | Okay, i'm now doing dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdc bs=1M |
| 12:02.02 | enouf | or use parted or any other partitioning tool :-) |
| 12:02.16 | JJOliver | sure |
| 12:02.22 | \amethyst | yeah, I was using 'fdisk' as a generic term, sorry |
| 12:02.42 | enouf | JJOliver: you can then check if there's truly zeros using hexdump -c | less or similar |
| 12:02.51 | JJOliver | enouf: sure |
| 12:02.58 | enouf | JJOliver: er hexdump -c /dev/sdc | less or similar |
| 12:03.10 | \amethyst | it'll take a while to visually verify 2GB though :) |
| 12:03.31 | enouf | JJOliver: er -C , not -c |
| 12:03.39 | RichyR | enouf: i think i got it workin gnow, quick question. i mount root to /mnt and home to /mnt/home ? (doing it manually installer wont work) |
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| 12:03.57 | enouf | \amethyst: and JJOliver strings /dev/sdc ;-) |
| 12:04.12 | enouf | when nothihng appears after a few minutes, ctrl-c it ;-) |
| 12:04.24 | RichyR | enouf: i think maybe it was heat because i left it a while and now it randomly works. |
| 12:04.29 | enouf | \amethyst: actually xxd atleast has an option to skip over sparse areas ;-) |
| 12:04.43 | enouf | RichyR: quite possible |
| 12:05.00 | JJOliver | Now a completely unrelated queston, to which I've waited four hours in a quiet LDAP room, I'm using a tutorial to setup a LDAP for my network, but I messed some stuff up, I re-ran the configure tool, but now i'm getting errors related to my first mess up ldap, is there a way I can get rid of all LDAP stuff and start afresh? |
| 12:05.12 | RichyR | enouf: so ive made 3 partitions, created the file systems on my / and /home, where would i mount / and /home (for installation ?) /mnt and /mnt/home ? |
| 12:05.33 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.43 | RichyR | hmm? |
| 12:06.07 | enouf | RichyR: huh? are you using the Debian Installer? |
| 12:06.30 | RichyR | enouf: ya but for partions i went into shell. used fdisk to create swap, / and /home partitions, made / and /home ext3 with mkfs |
| 12:06.31 | enouf | RichyR: the installer mounts those things itself on /target |
| 12:06.46 | RichyR | mounted / to /mnt, not sure where i mount /home ? |
| 12:06.53 | enouf | don't bother |
| 12:07.00 | RichyR | enouf: but installer isn't working, it keeps failing |
| 12:07.00 | enouf | let the installer do it's magic |
| 12:07.11 | \amethyst | JJOliver: using slapd? |
| 12:07.17 | RichyR | enouf: i've tried installer bzillion times, only command line wants to work |
| 12:07.23 | enouf | RichyR: did you checksum the ISO? how about the actual cdrom media? |
| 12:07.34 | RichyR | enouf: yup it is fine |
| 12:07.46 | adb | RichyR: laptop ? |
| 12:07.50 | JJOliver | amethyst I don't have that forward slash to your name :-( my keyboard doesn't work. |
| 12:07.54 | JJOliver | I was using slapd. |
| 12:07.56 | RichyR | adb: desktop |
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| 12:08.29 | adb | RichyR: dell ? |
| 12:08.31 | RichyR | enouf: actually i got an idea, maybe i have cdrom in primary ide slot |
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| 12:08.42 | RichyR | adb: packard bell, it's ancient like 01 or something |
| 12:08.43 | cusco | hi |
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| 12:08.57 | JJOliver | RichyR: that sounds like a problem (-: |
| 12:08.59 | RichyR | adb: wouldn't be surprised if hdd has died lol |
| 12:09.03 | cusco | is there a tool that can lookup the text in a domain zone? or at least part of it? |
| 12:09.06 | cusco | like the mx record? |
| 12:10.59 | enouf | RichyR: the installer still uses scsi /dev/ path naming conventions .. IINM - so - have fun ;-) |
| 12:11.02 | enouf | cdrom-detect: CD-ROM mount succeeded: device=/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd |
| 12:11.08 | \amethyst | JJOliver: that's fine, I highlight plain 'amethyst' too :) |
| 12:11.31 | enouf | kernel: Adding 401584k swap on /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part5. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:401584k |
| 12:11.50 | RichyR | enouf: what does that mean? :S |
| 12:11.56 | enouf | haha |
| 12:12.13 | RichyR | enouf: well it seems CD-ROm mounted this time, but i just want to get partitions going now (auto-partition is not working) |
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| 12:12.34 | enouf | RichyR: messages should be on alt-f4 |
| 12:12.51 | enouf | RichyR: boot the installer using 'expert' |
| 12:12.56 | RichyR | enouf: alright ill try auto partition, get messages and paste here in a sec ;) |
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| 12:13.19 | \amethyst | JJOliver: you can try dpkg-reconfigure -a slapd ... at the very least you can answer true to 'Do you want the database to be removed when slapd is purged?', then purge and reinstall the package to get a fresh config and database |
| 12:14.35 | enouf | \amethyst: but amethyst is too much to type! and it won't tab-complete for him ... can we call you "amet"? :-P |
| 12:15.00 | enouf | (just for a few hours) ;-) |
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| 12:15.28 | \amethyst | as long as you don't call me 'thys' |
| 12:15.34 | enouf | hehe |
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| 12:16.26 | enouf | JJOliver: don't feel bad, i have a broken downarrow and my numpad one cooperates only when it feels like it - which is rare |
| 12:17.11 | enouf | oh and Home/End don't do the correct thing in xterm .. etc etc .. |
| 12:17.32 | ranix | your keyboard sucks |
| 12:17.33 | enouf | try editing a file in nano with no down arrow O_o |
| 12:17.38 | ranix | fyi |
| 12:17.40 | enouf | ranix: yes, it does |
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| 12:17.49 | ranix | use vim |
| 12:18.04 | enouf | ranix: it's my 5th one this year - i keep spilling stuff on them |
| 12:18.43 | ranix | stop being a clumsy putz |
| 12:19.01 | enouf | oh , and for some stupid reason the kbd repeat rate does not kick in till after a few seconds! ... it's so annoying |
| 12:19.17 | enouf | ranix: can't help it - Bull in a china shop |
| 12:19.26 | JJOliver | Hrm |
| 12:19.28 | \amethyst | enouf: that's one of the parameters of keyboard repeat, the delay |
| 12:19.33 | \amethyst | enouf: you're using the console? |
| 12:19.37 | JJOliver | Okay so what does the -a do? |
| 12:19.38 | ranix | next time get a spill resistant keyboard |
| 12:19.42 | enouf | \amethyst: i know, but no matter what i do - it won't alter |
| 12:19.49 | enouf | \amethyst: no, X |
| 12:19.49 | ranix | I have one and it's great |
| 12:19.56 | RichyR | enouf: in the installer, one error i'm getting is "failed to make ext3 filesystem" logs say "/dev/hda1 is already mounted; cannot make filesystem here |
| 12:20.15 | enouf | \amethyst: actually console works better on those other things, like the NumPad actually works there ;-) |
| 12:20.26 | enouf | \amethyst: the DownArrow is flat out dead though |
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| 12:20.45 | enouf | No LEDs are working , , etc etc |
| 12:20.59 | enouf | NumLock and Shift+NumLock do nothing |
| 12:21.12 | enouf | RichyR: umount it |
| 12:21.19 | \amethyst | enouf: is this a laptop keyboard? |
| 12:21.29 | enouf | \amethyst: no, it's an older Dell Server one |
| 12:21.39 | \amethyst | enouf: as for the repeat rate... did you try e.g. xset r rate 200 20 |
| 12:21.56 | enouf | \amethyst: hrm .. let me try that one ... |
| 12:22.22 | \amethyst | (200 msec delay, 20 Hz repeat) |
| 12:22.36 | enouf | \amethyst: xset r rate 200 20 |
| 12:22.37 | enouf | Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 12:22.40 | enouf | :-( |
| 12:22.51 | \amethyst | huh? |
| 12:22.55 | \amethyst | what X server are you using? |
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| 12:23.59 | enouf | and for shits and giggles, i'm so used to hitting Home to move cursor to far left of command, but what it did prior was this --> xset r rate 200 20~sudo <-- and it actually ran that command O_o |
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| 12:24.11 | enouf | \amethyst: typical sid/squeeze |
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| 12:24.31 | \amethyst | enouf: odd... |
| 12:24.47 | enouf | xset: unknown option 20~sudo <-- heh, and then spit out the help |
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| 12:25.40 | enouf | \amethyst: i think when i was toying with some openbox autoloading, i commented out many things in xorg.conf :-P |
| 12:26.07 | enouf | # Option "XkbRules" "xfree86 |
| 12:26.15 | JJOliver | Grrr Argh. . . . i've now down, a zero out of the drive and the FILE ARE STILL THERE!!!! |
| 12:26.29 | JJOliver | I just want to securely reformat a USB stick, it's not letting me at it! |
| 12:26.58 | enouf | JJOliver: is there a security locking feature - perhaps on exterior? |
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| 12:27.16 | enouf | JJOliver: does fdisk/sfdisk say it's block size is 512? |
| 12:27.28 | enouf | JJOliver: maybe it's a u3 device? - still |
| 12:27.50 | JJOliver | Disk /dev/sdc: 2013 MB, 2013265920 bytes |
| 12:27.50 | JJOliver | 129 heads, 32 sectors/track, 952 cylinders |
| 12:27.50 | JJOliver | Units = cylinders of 4128 * 512 = 2113536 bytes |
| 12:27.50 | JJOliver | Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 |
| 12:27.50 | JJOliver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:27.54 | enouf | ... |
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| 12:28.04 | ranix | !paste |
| 12:28.04 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 12:28.07 | dimm | can somebody can give assistance with installing lenny on s390 ? |
| 12:28.15 | JJOliver | Hrmm, whoops, tight flood bot, sorry about the spam didn't realise it was that much text |
| 12:28.20 | enouf | what is that, mips? |
| 12:28.30 | enouf | !s390 |
| 12:28.31 | dpkg | s390 is probably an IBM mainframe architecture, or now known as z series, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-s390 |
| 12:28.37 | dimm | s/390 ibm mainfrme |
| 12:29.01 | mesa_booger | dimm: nice. i used to work on s/370 way back |
| 12:29.26 | JJOliver | enouf: http://pastebin.ca/1481834 |
| 12:29.32 | enouf | debian.org/ports/s390 ? |
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| 12:29.34 | enouf | http://debian.org/ports/s390/ |
| 12:29.35 | JJOliver | I don't understand whats going on. |
| 12:29.40 | dimm | mesa_booger, pm, or here? |
| 12:29.49 | ranix | JJOliver: apparently |
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| 12:30.05 | JJOliver | thanks for your quick wit ranix! |
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| 12:30.49 | mesa_booger | dimm: but i haven't got a clue about installing debian on one |
| 12:30.50 | enouf | JJOliver: try dd again, leave off the bs= parameter |
| 12:30.58 | dimm | mesa_booger, :) |
| 12:31.02 | dimm | mesa_booger, gentoo? |
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| 12:31.07 | RichyR | enouf: hey man, after unmounting it trying again i get "attempt to mount a filesystem with type ext3 in IDE1 master partition #3 (hda3) at /home failed" (alt+f4 just says stuff like fs error cannot read block bitmap - block_group = 91, aborting journaling, remounting filesystem |
| 12:31.20 | JJOliver | enouf: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc ? |
| 12:31.25 | mesa_booger | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.26 | dimm | enouf, great mail list for s390, thanks |
| 12:31.32 | enouf | JJOliver: JJOliver yes |
| 12:31.44 | enouf | dimm: np ;-) |
| 12:32.14 | mesa_booger | oh boy. there's a term you don't often hear these days : jcl |
| 12:32.23 | enouf | RichyR: sounds like a bad FS, or bad disk - run dd on it and zero it out ;-) |
| 12:32.52 | valan | hehe ide |
| 12:32.54 | enouf | RichyR: the HDD manu has diag tools, or use badblocks on it, maybe even smartctl |
| 12:32.59 | RichyR | enouf: alright thanks. can i do this from the installer shell (using netiso)? |
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| 12:33.18 | enouf | the installer shell is very limited (ash) |
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| 12:33.23 | RichyR | enouf: i'm using min install, ill check if it has those tools |
| 12:33.37 | enouf | and the udebs are pared down a lot |
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| 12:33.52 | valan | ash isn't limited, it's a feature complete posix compliant shell |
| 12:34.03 | enouf | valan: the udeb version in the installer is |
| 12:34.11 | dpkg | blames enouf for all the evil in the world, courtesy of jjoliver |
| 12:34.13 | Schuenemann | I'm reading a howto that says: "If you have a kernel version of 2.6.22 or later, you may already have kingsun-sir compiled as a module for your kernel". How can I know if this is true? |
| 12:34.26 | dimm | gentoo work fine, but with debian i have some tumb |
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| 12:34.33 | enouf | valan: perhaps b/c it's rolled into a busybox :-P |
| 12:34.55 | valan | are you sure it's ash if it's in busybox? busybox has it own shell that can optionally be used |
| 12:35.03 | enouf | i forget |
| 12:35.12 | enouf | offhand |
| 12:35.17 | valan | what's so limited about it i wonder? |
| 12:35.40 | poison | hi all, I have a strange issue, I configured lo:0 in my /etc/network/interfaces and I ifupped it, then I deleted the entry from /etc/network/interfaces but when I do ifdown -a --force and restart networking, the lo:0 is still active |
| 12:35.52 | valan | been awhile since i've used ash heh |
| 12:36.11 | RichyR | enouf: how exactly do i zero it out ? dd if=/dev/zero of/dev/hda" ? |
| 12:36.25 | valan | iirc ifdown doesn't know to bring down the interface if it's not in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:36.28 | enouf | RichyR: yes, IF /dev/hda is correct HDD |
| 12:36.34 | enouf | RichyR: add a = in there |
| 12:36.38 | \amethyst | Schuenemann: either find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name kingsun-sir.ko or modprobe -n kingsun-sir (the latter will report a FATAL error if it's not there, and no message if it is) |
| 12:36.41 | enouf | of=/dev/hda |
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| 12:36.50 | poison | valan: so I have to do it with ifconfig then? or are there any other ways? |
| 12:36.59 | valan | but, you can just use the ifconfig or ip commands to do it |
| 12:36.59 | RichyR | enouf: oh ya thanks |
| 12:37.05 | ranix | why would you want to do it any other way |
| 12:37.31 | Schuenemann | \amethyst, ran the latter, no output. This doesn't mean I have the driver, right? |
| 12:37.38 | enouf | modprobe -l | grep kingsun-sir |
| 12:37.40 | Schuenemann | only that my kernel supports it |
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| 12:37.49 | enouf | that works for running kernel only though |
| 12:37.57 | poison | ok valan tnx let me check it |
| 12:37.57 | JJOliver | poison: ifconfig eth1 up is less direct than ifup eth1, ifup does a much better jon |
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| 12:38.04 | enouf | Schuenemann: grep your kernel config |
| 12:38.05 | Schuenemann | enouf, /lib/modules/2.6.30/kernel/drivers/net/irda/kingsun-sir.ko |
| 12:38.11 | enouf | there it is |
| 12:38.20 | Schuenemann | I still need to install the driver, right? |
| 12:38.36 | \amethyst | Schuenemann: what do you mean by 'install'? |
| 12:38.36 | enouf | modprobe it - lsmod | grep kingsun-sir prior |
| 12:38.37 | valan | how does ifup do a better job? |
| 12:38.53 | RichyR | enouf: i get 'dd write Input/Output error' (though running from BusyBox (ash) shell in install, would this be the problem?) |
| 12:39.00 | enouf | Schuenemann: insmod == insert, not install |
| 12:39.03 | \amethyst | Schuenemann: you have it installed on your system already. you can load it with modprobe kingsun-sir |
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| 12:39.06 | enouf | Schuenemann: but use modprobe |
| 12:39.23 | Schuenemann | so I already have the driver? |
| 12:39.26 | enouf | RichyR: yes ;-) |
| 12:39.33 | enouf | that's an issue :-P |
| 12:39.52 | enouf | RichyR: are you sure your HDD is /dev/hda ? |
| 12:40.06 | RichyR | enouf: ahh, was just giving it a go, didnt feel like setting up proper pc to get burn a live iso |
| 12:40.12 | enouf | remember what i told you abount /dev/path/name/the/installer/uses |
| 12:40.16 | RichyR | enouf: ya , it's only HDD in there.. im 100% |
| 12:40.34 | enouf | RichyR: the installer doesn't know what /dev/hda is, IINM |
| 12:40.42 | RichyR | enouf: so if i get live cd dd dev/zero should work ? |
| 12:40.51 | enouf | RichyR: and .. hda could be the cdrom drive :-P |
| 12:40.57 | enouf | LIVECD! |
| 12:41.04 | enouf | get it? for the twentieth time |
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| 12:42.27 | enouf | and boot the cd, and run select the 'Check Integrity' option |
| 12:42.27 | RichyR | enouf: ok ok ok, downloaded it gnna burn it now. btw yup it is hda because when i ran fdisk on hda it showed me layout of HDD |
| 12:42.54 | enouf | RichyR: which exact ISO (the debian-installer one) is that? |
| 12:43.39 | RichyR | enouf: The one I was using causing errors is debian-501-i386-netinst.iso (i want net inst, dnt want GUI and all that) |
| 12:44.11 | RichyR | enouf: but i just downloaded and about to burn live cd for debian gnome |
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| 12:45.52 | enouf | \amethyst: i just asked about the error in -x channel (Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display ":0.0") we'll see if i get a bite - i'll let you know |
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| 12:46.42 | enouf | RichyR: ok .. i'm surprised it recognized /dev/hda, and even surprised fdisk was available :-P |
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| 12:47.00 | enouf | used to only use parted/partman :-) |
| 12:47.08 | miniBill | Hello, I'm having problems installing kdvi on debian testing |
| 12:47.38 | enouf | RichyR: the GUI mode is done through what the F1-F10 keys tell you |
| 12:49.35 | enouf | \amethyst: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xset/commit/?id=8ce473c45da07eb82537509a4d14ccb50262bfa7 |
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| 12:50.38 | Schuenemann | enouf, modules listed with modprobe -l are already loaded? |
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| 12:51.27 | enouf | Schuenemann: no, lsmod |
| 12:51.39 | enouf | Schuenemann: man modprobe |
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| 12:51.46 | RichyR | enouf: hmm ya, it is strange. hopefully live cd can fix up the hard drive. also in alt+f4 says stuff like ide opcode: unknown dont know if that helps |
| 12:51.47 | enouf | man lsmod ;-) |
| 12:51.53 | JJOliver | enouf: would mkfs.fat16 /dev/sdc work? |
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| 12:52.15 | Schuenemann | ok, I loaded it |
| 12:52.26 | enouf | JJOliver: it should - depends - you can't seem to write anything to it |
| 12:52.44 | enouf | JJOliver: you will end up without a partition table though too |
| 12:52.49 | JJOliver | enouf: without the bs=1m I now have a fdisk -l that reports that it has no file system. |
| 12:52.54 | enouf | JJOliver: which is borked anyway |
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| 12:53.14 | JJOliver | bash: mkfs.fat16: command not found |
| 12:53.15 | enouf | JJOliver: pastebin output |
| 12:53.28 | enouf | mkdosfs -f 16 |
| 12:53.28 | pbn | !versions pidgin |
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| 12:54.00 | enouf | install dosfsutils or tools or whatever |
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| 12:54.59 | pbn | !version pidgin |
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| 12:56.17 | JJOliver | enouf: sorry i'm downloading a print driver so am really strugling with bandwidth . . . |
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| 12:57.53 | ranix | got a spam email that says "To talk dirty, you need to build your vocabulary" |
| 12:58.47 | JJOliver | ranix: who'd have thought that spam mail could also be educational? |
| 12:59.02 | ranix | I know right |
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| 13:00.04 | Vme | hello |
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| 13:01.28 | Vme | i've been trying to get a network card to do wakeonlan. Its not built in, so everytime i shut the computer down it goes down too. I've changed the '-i' option in /etc/init.d/halt, but no luck. My onboard card remains powered on when I shutdown? |
| 13:01.38 | JJOliver | Oh hell this is so frustrating, I have zero out data, I have repartitioned and made it from a vfat from fat16 and it's still got the anally irritating autorun.ini |
| 13:01.48 | JJOliver | autorun.inf even . . . |
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| 13:02.37 | pbn | ... hi there could someone look into why pidgin 2.5.8 isn't in testing yet ? The page http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=pidgin says it's old enough but that the package zephyr isn't built yet...perhaps should someone build zephyr manually ? |
| 13:03.03 | enouf | JJOliver: autorun.inf are found on CDROMs :-) |
| 13:03.14 | enouf | i bet it's a u3 device |
| 13:03.20 | enouf | !u3 |
| 13:03.20 | dpkg | from memory, u3 is a company producing a proprietary method of auto-launching applications from specially formatted USB flash drive. "U3 smart drives" differ from traditional USB flash drives because they come preinstalled with the U3 Launchpad, which looks similar to the Windows OS start menu and controls program installation. The method only works with recent Microsoft Windows systems.. These devices also appear as cdrom drives, and use a ISO FS in ... |
| 13:03.45 | pbn | u3 is a pain.... |
| 13:04.01 | JJOliver | Okay, but it's more that it's being seen as a virus and I can't get rid of it. |
| 13:04.14 | enouf | i thought launchshit or whatever it's called offer an Uninstaller tool .. but you need windows to use it? |
| 13:04.40 | enouf | how ironic :-P |
| 13:04.42 | JJOliver | sure but I've had this before and a zero out fixed the problem. |
| 13:04.54 | JJOliver | how do I get root to unlock the files on a disk? |
| 13:04.54 | enouf | so do - win! |
| 13:05.08 | JJOliver | enouf: huh? |
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| 13:08.11 | JJOliver | enouf: the winner comes. what I need to do is do mkdosfs /sdc1 that did it. |
| 13:08.56 | enouf | Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(956, 128, 32) logical=(948, 75, 32) |
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| 13:09.32 | RichyR | enouf: what does it mean if i have bad blocks on the hdd? i just ran badblocks, got quite a few |
| 13:09.32 | enouf | congrats, you now have a nice fat12 filesystem :-P |
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| 13:09.52 | enouf | RichyR: it's not good |
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| 13:10.11 | RichyR | enouf: like from 9200000 there are heaps |
| 13:10.11 | enouf | RichyR: man badblocks |
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| 13:11.22 | RichyR | enouf: so this is probably the problem ? does this mean i need to partition below 9200000 block and should b ok ?" |
| 13:11.41 | enouf | all i can say is ensure the drive's jumpers are properly set, check the BIOS settings too - make sure no stupid mode for IDE is being used |
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| 13:11.59 | RichyR | enouf: alright i'll double check everything |
| 13:12.18 | enouf | i wouldn't trust that HDD, with the errors you've shown |
| 13:12.29 | RichyR | enouf: probably easier just to buy new hdd ^^ IDE 40GB probably cost nothing these days |
| 13:12.41 | enouf | righto |
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| 13:14.10 | JJOliver | enouf: turns out it hasn't fixed the problem, just made it worse. |
| 13:14.25 | enouf | haha |
| 13:14.57 | RichyR | enouf: wow IDE quite pricy, might be worth buying a entire new box, can build them pretty cheap these days |
| 13:15.03 | RichyR | enouf: thanks for all the help |
| 13:15.11 | enouf | JJOliver: you need to wipe out your BAD partition table, redo it, then mkdosfs |
| 13:15.20 | enouf | RichyR: np |
| 13:15.37 | enouf | JJOliver: and get that u3 crap off of there |
| 13:15.44 | JJOliver | enouf: how? |
| 13:16.06 | JJOliver | to both the bad partition table, and getting rid of the u3 stuff? |
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| 13:17.06 | miickee | Hey, just wondering, in debian |
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| 13:17.35 | miickee | System monitor, it has 2 CPU readings? |
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| 13:18.10 | dimm | mesa_booger, can you give assistance with zipl.conf ? |
| 13:18.13 | RichyR | miickee: core1 and core2 maybe? |
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| 13:18.37 | miickee | Haha yes, that might be it. I'm surprised though cause most give an overall reading |
| 13:18.40 | enouf | JJOliver: not sure, maybe google can help - i'd personally just hit it a few times with a sledgehammer |
| 13:18.57 | dimm | mesa_booger, http://pastebin.com/m1b4ab276 |
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| 13:19.14 | JJOliver | enouf: (0-: |
| 13:19.20 | dimm | mesa_booger, one shot please :) |
| 13:19.30 | enouf | JJOliver: try ##linux, they have more windows users - and maybe even ##windows |
| 13:19.41 | JJOliver | yeah |
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| 13:19.50 | JJOliver | cept I don't use windows anymore (-; |
| 13:20.01 | JyZyXEL | has anyone got any cool parameters for x11vnc for LAN usage? |
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| 13:20.13 | RichyR | there any places where you can get reccommended budget server builds? |
| 13:20.15 | JyZyXEL | the defaults are painfully slow for LAN |
| 13:20.16 | marcel` | can i let bash remove all its history when i close my terminal/ssh connection? |
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| 13:22.44 | rudi_s | marcel`: Remove the history file in .bash_logout. |
| 13:23.08 | rudi_s | (Not sure though if it's called when you close the terminal, ssh works.) |
| 13:23.19 | marcel` | rudi_s: thanks, is this a right/nice/elegant way? |
| 13:23.39 | marcel` | rudi_s: that great im using it to clear a remote terminal |
| 13:23.58 | rudi_s | marcel`: Yes. |
| 13:24.35 | justin | marcel`: you'd be better off just not enabling a history file in the first place |
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| 13:25.07 | marcel` | justin: im not root on that box |
| 13:25.20 | rudi_s | marcel`: You can set it in .bashrc. |
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| 13:26.19 | cusco | marcel`: history -c |
| 13:26.20 | enouf | and .bash_profile for login shells |
| 13:26.21 | cusco | clears it |
| 13:27.10 | enouf | well .bashrc is usually sourced from .bash_profile anyway, IIRC |
| 13:27.18 | cusco | then I think its history -d that writes the current (cleared) |
| 13:27.51 | enouf | help history |
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| 13:30.03 | RichyR | is there a place where i can get list of compatible cpu / mobo with debian (like hardware that has excellent support) |
| 13:30.23 | enouf | RichyR: google barebones - try #hardware - i'd just pick something off of newegg and build it myself |
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| 13:30.50 | Schuenemann | such a pain to make a USB infrared work... |
| 13:30.52 | enouf | RichyR: add something else to barebones in your query :-P |
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| 13:33.26 | mesa_booger | dimm: well i had a look, but i'm none the wiser. myabe if the target is /boot, the image & ramdisk don't want or need /boot in the name. but i'm only guessing |
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| 13:34.55 | marcel` | thanks everyone for helping me out clearing, removing and stoppen bash from loggin my commands |
| 13:35.28 | marcel` | its not on a local box. on my own i dont care |
| 13:37.38 | pbn | and on the SanDisk usb keys, even recreating the partition table and partitions don't make U3 go away |
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| 13:43.33 | dimm | mesa_booger, no :) |
| 13:43.47 | dimm | mesa_booger, target is a target for creating bootmap |
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| 13:49.36 | kjs | hmmm, if i want to give a user sudo access to userdel but only want that user to be able to remove users that begin with "ftp-" is that possible ? |
| 13:50.10 | stew | kjs: create a wrapper script that only does the things the user should be able to do, and give them sudo access to that script |
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| 13:51.13 | enouf | but store the script where they cannot edit it - (naturally) |
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| 13:53.05 | mesa_booger | dimm: if you say so. i never promised you a rose garden ... :) |
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| 13:54.16 | sepult | are there any password cracking programs for webforms ? |
| 13:54.35 | sepult | say i have a web interface to my router, but i forgot my passwd, and resetting is not possible |
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| 13:55.25 | jpinx | you're b0rked sepult |
| 13:55.50 | sepult | jpinx: ?? |
| 13:55.53 | enouf | so that's what a "webform" is? huh |
| 13:55.58 | ranix | resetting is almost always possible, sepult |
| 13:56.06 | ranix | do you not have physical access to the router? |
| 13:56.31 | enouf | a javascript laden dialog box? |
| 13:56.32 | sepult | i do have physical access to the router but it won't reset |
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| 13:57.04 | jpinx | sepult: yes it will |
| 13:57.06 | ranix | I suggest contacting the manufacturer and getting an instruction manual or asking them the panic procedure |
| 13:57.28 | Caesar_ | Reading the manual entry for resetting might be an idea... |
| 13:57.33 | jpinx | sepult: you just need to rtfm |
| 13:57.39 | Caesar_ | (Thus pressing a button sounds easy...) |
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| 13:57.47 | Cynner | New web browser based game, check it - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844 |
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| 13:58.14 | sepult | nope, it 's like dealing with a needle to do that, and it's tricky |
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| 13:58.33 | ranix | lol |
| 13:58.33 | sepult | the reset button is broken |
| 13:58.41 | sepult | lol |
| 13:58.43 | djveer | hey guys, what do you all run for mail server components? I am looking at setting a mail server up for a small business and am curious which ones work the best. |
| 13:58.43 | jpinx | sepult: it's certainly not a debian issue;) |
| 13:58.44 | ranix | so fix it |
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| 13:59.02 | Caesar_ | Then open the box and link the contacts for it manually. :P |
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| 13:59.25 | Caesar_ | Mh. I've got a problem with installing Debian. Or better, with the device control of my mainboard and the debian installer device control... |
| 13:59.39 | \amethyst | I guess that would do |
| 13:59.40 | \amethyst | doh |
| 13:59.47 | the-dude | djveer: try postfix+dovecot |
| 14:00.07 | djveer | the-dude: is that relatively simple to get working nicely? |
| 14:00.09 | enouf | puts \amethyst 's entry back into the correct window :-P |
| 14:00.13 | ranix | djveer: I have a dedicated exim4 server with two NICs; one LAN and one WAN, running bandwidthd for monitoring, clamav for antivirus, and greylistd, spamassassin, Razor2, and a custom exim4.conf with RBLs for smtp rejection |
| 14:00.22 | jpinx | sepult: there is sometimes a tiny hole you can stick a straightened paperclip into for reset |
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| 14:00.39 | the-dude | djveer: both easy 2 setup and works nice :) |
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| 14:00.56 | the-dude | jpinx: you mean a ejecting device ;) |
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| 14:00.57 | djveer | ranix: what do you use on the client side then? |
| 14:01.22 | jpinx | the-dude: on a router? |
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| 14:01.31 | ranix | djveer: Personally I (and my engineering department) use Squirrelmail running off our webserver. Some of the other guys use Thunderbird |
| 14:01.56 | Caesar_ | I've got a SATA Hitachi HD, and it is emulated as IDE. The debian installer hangs on "Detecting Hard drives"... |
| 14:01.57 | ranix | djveer: via one of either courier-pop or courier-imap, as is appropriate for the user |
| 14:02.19 | djveer | ranix: thanks |
| 14:02.22 | ranix | np |
| 14:02.23 | djveer | the-dude: thanks |
| 14:02.44 | Caesar_ | Has anyone an Idea how to fix this without using AHCI? Because that won't let my Mainboard boot anyting. |
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| 14:05.57 | djveer | i'm thinking an open source mail server would be the least expesnsive way to go for a new small business with only a couple users.. |
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| 14:08.15 | brah | Is there any concrete way to determine which files a make install created? |
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| 14:08.41 | brah | To just copy those files to another machine |
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| 14:09.16 | the-dude | djveer: how much users? |
| 14:09.32 | djveer | the-dude: only like 3-4 to start |
| 14:10.21 | the-dude | oh thats easy :) |
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| 14:12.07 | enouf | brah: after the fact? you could checkout stow, paco, checkinstall |
| 14:12.17 | djveer | the-dude: so if I did postfix/dovecot, where is the mail stored? |
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| 14:12.40 | Tapout | when you've got like: postgresql-client_8.4.0-1_all.deb and postgresql-client-8.4_8.4.0-1_amd64.deb ... do you typically just install the *.amd one? or both? |
| 14:12.44 | brah | What are those, enouf? |
| 14:12.45 | enouf | brah: but those are for before the make install is done - check what the config.log says and such |
| 14:13.23 | enouf | apt-cache show stow ; google linux paco ; /msg dpkg checkinstall |
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| 14:14.20 | Oxy | Would anyone happen to know if aptitude is generally faster than yum? |
| 14:14.35 | brah | I can-t seem to find any config.log, but I'll look up on those other programs |
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| 14:15.38 | beardy | Oxy: Quite uncomparable, though I'd say yes anyway, I thought so, the little I've had to use yum. |
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| 14:17.08 | \amethyst | Oxy: depends... aptitude can take a long time because of its very intensive dependency analysis... particularly when trying to fix conflicts, e.g. when doing a large upgrade |
| 14:17.15 | beardy | Oxy: Will get offtopic fast. But IIRC yum runs a simulation by default(?) before doing it's things. |
| 14:17.25 | enouf | Caesar_: pass the installer generic.all_generic_ide=1 |
| 14:17.32 | Oxy | beardy: thx |
| 14:17.33 | beardy | The things that take long are usually a few packages, like kernels, and initrd rebuilds. |
| 14:17.36 | brah | paco = cocaine paste.. cool |
| 14:17.36 | Oxy | thanks |
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| 14:18.03 | enouf | Caesar_: or fix your BIOS and enable RAID under SATA settings, that will enable AHCI mode |
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| 14:21.30 | Caesar_ | enouf, can't understand that... There's a selection field in SATA settings for IDE, AHCI or RAID. So I don't think I can enable both... |
| 14:21.59 | Oxy | What programming language does aptitude use? As in what was it developed with? |
| 14:22.44 | valan | i would guess c but i'm really not sure |
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| 14:24.40 | abrotman | pbn: that's not really the place to harass people |
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| 14:25.03 | enouf | Caesar_: ok, so if you select ACHI, you get the error? |
| 14:25.16 | UGHHHHHhhhhh | hello nube question here: how do i connect to a windows printer via debian (lenny 5.0) |
| 14:25.38 | UGHHHHHhhhhh | i don't know the ip address, how do i obtain it from my machine? |
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| 14:26.07 | UGHHHHHhhhhh | (i believe i'll need the ip address of the windows printer) |
| 14:26.10 | pbn | abrotman: ok sorry, I'll shut up |
| 14:26.16 | dbbolton | is there a qt4 equivalent of nm-applet ? |
| 14:26.21 | abrotman | pbn: and oyu've been shown why it's not in testing |
| 14:26.36 | valan | knetworkmanager |
| 14:26.38 | enouf | UGHHHHHhhhhh: not really, just setup CUPS to let it use raw and IPP |
| 14:26.41 | valan | i believe |
| 14:27.20 | pbn | abrotman: yeah but thre's something new, today 2.5.8 is old enough, but... it's not yet in testing... apparently because of dependencies that do not build... |
| 14:27.43 | abrotman | pbn: okay .. so doesn't that make sense? |
| 14:27.45 | enouf | dpkg-reconfigure cups ... then /etc/init.d/cups start .. you can then also go to http://localhost:631/admin and tweak/read/etc |
| 14:28.12 | pbn | abrotman: yeah that make sense but I'd be very glad if these dependencies that don't build could be fixed :) |
| 14:28.32 | dbbolton | valan there is no such package. knetworkconf does exist, but requires root privileges |
| 14:28.33 | abrotman | pbn: did you actually read the whole page? |
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| 14:29.36 | pbn | abrotman: well, pidgin needs zephyr, zephyr is missing binary zephyr-server-krb, and zephyr is waiting for krb5 .... perhaps is there something I don't get... ? |
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| 14:30.17 | abrotman | pbn: it says Mr. Simo has blocked krb5 |
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| 14:30.58 | the-dude | djveer: wherever you want :) most likely /home or /var/spool/mail |
| 14:31.08 | valan | huh |
| 14:31.13 | valan | knetworkmanager does indeed exist |
| 14:31.34 | valan | it's a virtual package but it's there |
| 14:31.45 | Seb | hmm, where does lpq get the default printer from ? |
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| 14:32.10 | dbbolton | valan http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=knet |
| 14:32.12 | valan | network-manager-kde is the real package |
| 14:32.17 | dbbolton | ok |
| 14:32.18 | pbn | abrotman: ah... and when will it be unblocked ? |
| 14:32.33 | abrotman | pbn: NFC |
| 14:32.37 | valan | i'm looking at my results from aptitude, which i just updated btw |
| 14:33.00 | dbbolton | valan yes but it looks like network-manager-kde uses qt3 http://packages.debian.org/sid/network-manager |
| 14:33.31 | dbbolton | rather http://packages.debian.org/sid/network-manager-kde |
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| 14:34.26 | embar | Hello |
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| 14:35.39 | embar | I need a help for keyboard layout switching. Debian 5 + Gnome. Layout switiching works fine until restart |
| 14:35.53 | embar | And then must be reconfigured again |
| 14:36.06 | embar | How I can solve this ? |
| 14:36.18 | ethanol | embar: save changes? |
| 14:36.27 | brah | use mac |
| 14:36.27 | embar | How? |
| 14:36.28 | brah | it just werks |
| 14:36.51 | embar | I set things from keyboard options |
| 14:37.18 | abrotman | !tell embar about keymap |
| 14:37.19 | embar | I have try to add some extra line into xorg.conf in Input Devices |
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| 14:37.34 | embar | but without result |
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| 14:38.11 | valan | dbbolton yeah it does look like it uses qt3 |
| 14:39.01 | embar | Can anybody help to resolve my problem ? Thans in advance |
| 14:39.11 | Caesarli | enouf? Where should I pass this generic.all_generic_ide=1? I thought as a installer argument (Tab in that first menu etc...) But the return is, that I get a Unknown Option - Notice. |
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| 14:40.08 | dbbolton | valan if i have to drag in a bunch of dependencies i might as well just use gnome's nm-applet |
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| 14:40.17 | embar | I haven't this problem with Debian 4 Etch |
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| 14:40.30 | metalfan_ | hi |
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| 14:40.38 | embar | It appear in Debian 5 |
| 14:40.43 | nareshov | test |
| 14:40.47 | metalfan_ | dow do you change the package mirror from console? |
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| 14:42.39 | petemc | metalfan_: using a text editor to edit /etc/apt/sources.list then running aptitude update |
| 14:42.40 | the-dude | metalfan_: vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:45.03 | Oxy | Is aptitude c++ software? |
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| 14:45.34 | the-dude | Oxy: no it is a frontend for dpkg |
| 14:45.34 | enouf | Caesarli: hrm .. |
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| 14:45.46 | enouf | Caesarli: so, is your BIOS set to AHCI mode? |
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| 14:45.54 | metalfan_ | ah nice. the ubuntu guys were just to busy to answer |
| 14:45.54 | Oxy | the-dude: is dpkg c++? |
| 14:46.01 | Oxy | err made with c++ |
| 14:46.02 | gebi | hi all :) |
| 14:46.14 | gebi | how to get the debian menu with gnome on lenny? |
| 14:46.39 | jleedev | menu-xdg package, i think |
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| 14:47.49 | enouf | Caesarli: try ide.all_generic_ide=1 |
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| 14:48.16 | UGHHHHHhhhhh | hello, how do i use cups to connect to a windows printer in my network? |
| 14:48.24 | abrotman | again? |
| 14:48.40 | henux | hello. i am getting strange errors on my brand new debian 5.0 install |
| 14:48.41 | petemc | UGHHHHHhhhhh: cups can search for printers |
| 14:49.07 | gebi | jleedev: already installed, no sign of an debian menu, "programming" section is missing too |
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| 14:49.22 | UGHHHHHhhhhh | oh okay it will work even if i don't know the name of the printer or the computer? |
| 14:49.23 | valan | aptitude does indeed look like c++ |
| 14:49.30 | henux | `apt-get upgrade` gives me this : http://pastebin.com/f45a439bb |
| 14:49.31 | abrotman | henux: we need more details |
| 14:49.46 | UGHHHHHhhhhh | i could not find a tutorial on how to find the printer |
| 14:49.50 | valan | dpkg looks like it's c though |
| 14:49.50 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, valan |
| 14:50.00 | henux | also `apt-cache search aptitude` gives me these lines: |
| 14:50.01 | henux | terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc |
| 14:50.04 | henux | Aborted |
| 14:50.28 | henux | this should be brand new debian 5.0, it came preinstalled on this VPS |
| 14:52.19 | jleedev | gebi: not sure. try 'update-menus'? |
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| 14:53.02 | gebi | jleedev: already tried, no luck :/ |
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| 14:53.55 | Caesarli | enouf, same thingy about ignoring unknown option... |
| 14:54.00 | enouf | Caesarli: yes "generic.all_generic_ide=1" was correct, however, which installer? lenny? testing/squeeze? IINM, a lot of IDE stuff was pulled from the kernel(since it's replaced via libata's pata_ stuff), so that's why it might not still work like it did for .24 ish kernels |
| 14:54.46 | Zapelius | I'm trying to get lenny boot off a PCMCIA-CF adapter, I have grub loading, kernel and initrd loaded, but the kernel can't find the CF attached in the PCMCIA slot, any suggestions for howto's ? |
| 14:55.00 | Zapelius | so far I've tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromPCMCIA |
| 14:55.09 | Caesarli | Its debian 501 for amd42, enouf. |
| 14:55.10 | enouf | Caesarli: tried 'expert' mode? press F1-F10 and see - and please answer my other questions about BIOS settings and such |
| 14:55.11 | henux | also `sudo aptitude search twisted` gives me segfault O.o |
| 14:55.34 | Caesarli | enouf, what was your question? |
| 14:55.43 | abrotman | henux: it sounds like possibly a memory issue |
| 14:55.55 | henux | abrotman: this is running on a VPS |
| 14:55.58 | Caesarli | I'll try expert mode next time... |
| 14:56.03 | abrotman | a VPS has no RAM? |
| 14:56.18 | henux | aah hmm |
| 14:56.18 | enouf | Caesarli: ok, that's lenny - can you grab a 5.02 ? you said you had the options under SATA for RAID / AHCI / IDE ? which is it set to? |
| 14:56.29 | Caesarli | IDE. |
| 14:56.30 | henux | only 64 MB RAM |
| 14:56.31 | abrotman | henux: try a few other operations |
| 14:56.37 | henux | 22 MB free |
| 14:56.40 | enouf | Caesarli: have you tried with AHCI ? |
| 14:56.44 | Caesarli | Yes. |
| 14:56.44 | henux | that not enough |
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| 14:56.56 | abrotman | it is enough .. but i don't think tha'ts the issue |
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| 14:57.02 | Caesarli | My mainboard hangs on recognizing the devices with AHCI. |
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| 14:57.11 | enouf | Caesarli: do you then also have IDE drive settings? (maybe even sata will have Native/Compatibility modes) |
| 14:57.37 | Caesarli | I already tried that compatibillity stuff, same problem with installer. |
| 14:57.40 | henux | no swap space |
| 14:57.43 | enouf | Caesarli: ok, now it's on IDE though, same thing? even with no boot options? |
| 14:57.57 | enouf | Caesarli: exact same error? |
| 14:58.01 | enouf | all times? |
| 14:58.04 | Caesarli | Well, no errors. |
| 14:58.07 | Caesarli | Just hangs up. |
| 14:58.14 | enouf | just Can't find HDD ,,, ? |
| 14:58.24 | Caesarli | I think so. |
| 14:58.37 | enouf | Caesarli: is your optical drive SATA or PATA? |
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| 14:58.46 | henux | yeah its a memory issue |
| 14:58.52 | henux | open2: fork failed: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/ConfModule.pm line 59 |
| 14:59.04 | Caesarli | I think SATA, but I don't know. How to figure out? |
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| 14:59.28 | Caesarli | Oh, I tried that expert mode some time ago, It hangs on another screen then, don't remember anymore... |
| 15:00.14 | enouf | The debian installer hangs on "Detecting Hard drives"... <-- sounds like a controller issue - like the module for your controller isn't loading ; try again, 'expert' mode though and load all possible disk controller modules |
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| 15:01.25 | Caesarli | kay, in half an hour, gotta do some stuff. |
| 15:01.27 | enouf | Caesarli: well .. i was going to say pass it "libata.atapi_enabled=1" if it's a SATA Optical drive, and you get an error that it can't find the Installer media |
| 15:01.38 | enouf | Caesarli: me too |
| 15:01.41 | jawbrkr | should partman mke2fs have some sort of indicator that it's doing something? |
| 15:01.45 | xororand | How would you cache apt packages? with squid? |
| 15:01.54 | abrotman | apt-proxy ? |
| 15:02.02 | jawbrkr | ctrl alt f4 and it's just sitting there |
| 15:02.07 | jawbrkr | this is during the installation |
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| 15:04.11 | xiangfu | Hi I know there is a program to check the .c source code file's licenses . |
| 15:04.39 | xiangfu | but I forget. |
| 15:04.48 | valan | usually more or less will do just fine, as the license is often at the beginning of the file |
| 15:04.53 | valan | or in a file called LICENSE |
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| 15:04.59 | valan | or COPYING or something like that |
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| 15:09.27 | enouf | xiangfu: something like http://www.gnu.org/software/idutils/ perhaps? |
| 15:09.37 | henux | how do i enable bash completion for apt-get and aptitude ? |
| 15:09.52 | abrotman | did you install the bash completion package ? |
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| 15:10.56 | henux | hm i guess i didnt |
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| 15:11.40 | henux | ah it works now |
| 15:12.54 | enouf | jawbrkr: if you're within the installer check alt-f4 |
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| 15:13.22 | zhxk | helllo, genlteman, cal #define be limited in a brace pair scope? |
| 15:13.42 | hikenboot | hello now i am getting a new error mount /dev/root on root failed no such device...any ideas how to fix on debian on ubuntu it said to update udev version this is on debian testing using raid for /boot and raid and lvm for other partitions |
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| 15:14.47 | enouf | hikenboot: what raid level for /boot? |
| 15:14.54 | hikenboot | raid 1 |
| 15:15.05 | hikenboot | no spare |
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| 15:15.46 | enouf | hikenboot: update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.x-x (perhaps) .. sounds like your initrd is a bit flakey |
| 15:16.15 | enouf | hikenboot: custom kernel? any initrd? |
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| 15:17.04 | stew | zhxk: please ask your questions in an appropriate channel instead of asking the same question in every channel you are in |
| 15:17.25 | hikenboot | enouf no custom kernel ...fresh testing install I am not sure if it has an initrd by default |
| 15:17.28 | stew | zhxk: i'm guessing you should be asking about this in ##c or ##c++ |
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| 15:17.46 | enouf | hikenboot: yes, it will then, if debian |
| 15:18.00 | hikenboot | yes its debian...does this change things? |
| 15:18.07 | enouf | hikenboot: so the installation went fine, the initial reboot fails? |
| 15:18.12 | hikenboot | yes |
| 15:18.27 | hikenboot | this is the third installer error i have encountered... |
| 15:18.37 | hikenboot | the first was with lvm and raid for boot |
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| 15:18.59 | hikenboot | so as suggested i just maid it raid 1 for boot |
| 15:19.10 | hikenboot | s/maid /made |
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| 15:20.23 | enouf | hikenboot: only thing that comes to mind, that's apropos is to boot a livecd, chroot into your installation and run that update-initramfs command - is /boot also part of LVM? and are you also using grub1? |
| 15:20.45 | hikenboot | also of less importance is raid with lvm on it better than lvm on raid or visa versa? |
| 15:20.56 | hikenboot | using grub by default but it also fails with lilo |
| 15:21.06 | hikenboot | no /boot is not part of lvm |
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| 15:21.36 | enouf | hikenboot: did you try LiLo the most recently? if so, did you then reinstall grub? if so, how? |
| 15:22.25 | hikenboot | I wiped the partitions out and then restarted the install all over...this gets around the second bug encountered which is that it failes with existing partions if the installer is formating them |
| 15:22.53 | hikenboot | s/partions/partitions |
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| 15:23.33 | zhxk | stew:thanks |
| 15:23.48 | hikenboot | (if you are using raid and lvm...is when it fails formating them) |
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| 15:24.31 | hikenboot | I seem to be good at running into bugs this week! |
| 15:25.36 | enouf | it'd be nice if you can use reportbug to send the installer team an installation report ;-) |
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| 15:26.29 | enouf | hikenboot: is there any crypto involved? |
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| 15:26.38 | hikenboot | enouf I would love to but i dont know how to do that...is there a doc on how to do that?> |
| 15:26.57 | hikenboot | i can figure out how to make reports when its running but not during the install |
| 15:27.03 | hikenboot | no crypto involved |
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| 15:28.34 | hikenboot | I decieded to leave crypto out of it...tried that with ubuntu but that failed miserably |
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| 15:29.04 | valan | ubuntu often does fail miserably ;) |
| 15:29.12 | enouf | hikenboot: this was an old bug - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491114 fixed months ago - relives? |
| 15:29.55 | enouf | hikenboot: longer version http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=491107 |
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| 15:31.00 | hikenboot | I will check it out and see if its permissions I have to figure out a chroot for debian (only done it with ubuntu) |
| 15:31.25 | hikenboot | which live cd do you recommend for the chrooting? |
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| 15:31.37 | enouf | hikenboot: are your LVM volume names /dev/mapper/WHATEVER ? |
| 15:32.05 | enouf | hikenboot: perhaps sysresccd.org , or erm, INSERT or whatsit called |
| 15:32.12 | hikenboot | yes they are they are /dev/mapper/System-... /dev/mapper/Home- and boot isnt on lvm |
| 15:32.23 | metalfan_ | how do you reinstall a package? sudo mv /etc/apache2 /etc/apache2.old && sudo aptitude remove apache && sudo aptitude install apache2 looks like its working, but theres no fresh /etc/apache2? |
| 15:32.25 | hikenboot | ok thats what I have been using |
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| 15:32.55 | enouf | hikenboot: i understand, but / is on LVM, and i'm not sure which root it means; your initrd rootfs, or your real-root-fs ;-) |
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| 15:33.00 | hikenboot | i will let you know how it goes enouf... |
| 15:33.06 | zhxk | hello, gentleman, where is paste.debian.org? |
| 15:33.34 | enouf | hikenboot: this is even older (and i heard you don't use crypto), just have a gander at the info http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/RAIDvsCrypto |
| 15:33.49 | zhxk | !paste |
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| 15:34.14 | hikenboot | ah thats a problem i have with errors at this point I dont see any log of what is listed on the screen when it fails at this point...it scrolls off the screen and its gone forever...yes ..no..am i missing somthing? |
| 15:34.16 | bizhan | Hi all I am using a program called udhcpc as dhcp client to get IP address, it failes, do you know how I can debug this? Thanks |
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| 15:35.20 | adb | dpkg: tell zhxk about selftell |
| 15:35.34 | the-dude | bizhan: are you able to get a lease with a different client? |
| 15:36.19 | zhxk | adb:sorry, i forget dpkg the name |
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| 15:37.21 | bizhan | yes, on different machine. The error I get is "ipcalc: bad IP address: /24" |
| 15:39.13 | enouf | hikenboot: yeah .. you'd want to attach a serial console in that case to see or log the errors, i guess - the installer made a syslog, somewhere within /var/log/installer? not /var/log/syslog though .. but you're beyond the installation already |
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| 15:40.19 | enouf | hikenboot: and whilst installing, alt-f4 has messages |
| 15:40.21 | hikenboot | I have to take time to learn that stuff...I wonder is there any debian certification exams out there I was going to take the redhat enterpise certification after studying for it over the next year |
| 15:40.35 | enouf | heh ;-) |
| 15:40.37 | hikenboot | enouf but you cant scroll up right? |
| 15:40.49 | enouf | hikenboot: shift+pageup should work |
| 15:40.58 | hikenboot | oh no kidding thats great! |
| 15:41.06 | enouf | hikenboot: you can even halt the boot using scrolllock button |
| 15:41.18 | hikenboot | oh wow thats great too! |
| 15:41.24 | Polar_Bear | Hi guys. I'm trying to install lenny (netinst) on a second machine I have here. Like the machine I'm talking to you from, it's connected first to a modem-router (behaving as a switch) which is in-turn connected to our gateway modem-router. The second machine has an IP and MAC, but doesn't repond to pings, and fails to retrieve anything from the repos or connect to an ntp server. |
| 15:41.34 | hikenboot | your a wealth of information! |
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| 15:41.43 | enouf | hikenboot: so, ifyou want, you could stop the boot just before the error, then take a digital Cam shot of the monitor ;-) |
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| 15:41.54 | hikenboot | anything that works! |
| 15:42.03 | abrotman | Polar_Bear: set to DHCP ? |
| 15:42.04 | enouf | load it up to picpaste.com or something ;-) |
| 15:42.05 | hikenboot | the console thing is it hard to setup? |
| 15:42.08 | enouf | !pastebin |
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| 15:42.21 | Polar_Bear | Oh, should've said that: It is on dhcp |
| 15:42.32 | abrotman | that'd help :) |
| 15:42.32 | enouf | hikenboot: tricky, but doable |
| 15:42.35 | Polar_Bear | I'm thinking it's a problem with dhcp |
| 15:42.46 | abrotman | Polar_Bear: check your routing table |
| 15:42.51 | hikenboot | I assume you have to alter the grub or lilo config? |
| 15:43.04 | hikenboot | but then this doesnt help during the install does it? |
| 15:43.07 | Polar_Bear | but it's a share house, and I can't readily get everyone to switch to static IP's just for me |
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| 15:43.23 | Polar_Bear | the modem's routing table? |
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| 15:43.28 | abrotman | the machine's |
| 15:43.43 | Polar_Bear | will it have one? I'm not getting past the installation. |
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| 15:44.30 | Polar_Bear | okay, that's a silly question. |
| 15:44.51 | abrotman | oh .. you're still in the installer? |
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| 15:44.56 | Polar_Bear | Yeah |
| 15:45.12 | abrotman | might be a hardware/driver issue |
| 15:45.42 | Polar_Bear | I checked the dmesg - it correctly identifies the card and uses the module I'd have used. |
| 15:45.55 | enouf | hikenboot: a) http://d15.biz/blog/2007/02/setting-up-a-serial-console-on-linux/ b) http://en.opensuse.org/Serial_Null_Modem_Connection and c) http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Serial/serial-console.html |
| 15:46.10 | abrotman | Polar_Bear: does the installer have the 'route' command ? |
| 15:46.18 | abrotman | can the machine ping itself? |
| 15:46.30 | Polar_Bear | its own ip, or the loopback IP? |
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| 15:46.52 | Polar_Bear | I'll try both. Fidly. I only have the one monitor here, so I'll tell you in a few minutes. |
| 15:46.54 | hikenboot | thanks enouf i will get back to you in a while to let you know how its going ...i am going to disconnect so i can capture my xchat buffer for safe keeping of my journeys thru linux\ |
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| 15:47.08 | enouf | sure ;-) |
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| 15:51.12 | fender0107401 | hi all |
| 15:51.21 | gebi | is creating an /etc/xdg/menus/application-merged/foo.menu (which merges the debian-menu.menu) really the only way to get the debian manu back with gnome in lenny? |
| 15:51.56 | fender0107401 | Witch package contains the man 1 and 2 sections? |
| 15:52.07 | gebi | how should a normal user figour this out?? |
| 15:52.17 | fender0107401 | 2 and 3 |
| 15:52.50 | fender0107401 | man 2 and 3 section |
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| 15:53.09 | Caesarli | enouf, the expert install of debian 502 has the same problems, and pressing F1-10 in the first menu just makes a beep. (I did not pass any arguments to the installer) |
| 15:53.23 | gebi | fender0107401: manpages-dev |
| 15:53.51 | sikx | is there an apache 2.0 package? since i want to use apache2 with php and the apache2-package is 2.2 :/ |
| 15:53.55 | gebi | fender0107401: if you want to search for a file from a noninstalled packages just use apt-file search |
| 15:54.36 | Caesarli | If just someone could tell me how to use AHCI with P5Q deluxe... :( |
| 15:54.45 | fender0107401 | thank |
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| 15:54.51 | linduxed | ive got a usb-memory from a friend that has a windows-virus on it. ive tried scanning it with clamav and it gives me no results. is there some other way? |
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| 15:55.51 | Tapout | so I installed postgresql, and I need to reinit the database with a different locale.. anyone know how? |
| 15:56.16 | OpenTokix | linduxed: I can't really see how that is debian related. |
| 15:56.36 | stew | OpenTokix: i can |
| 15:56.48 | OpenTokix | stew: ok |
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| 15:56.49 | JyZyXEL | maybe his making the scan on a debian box! |
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| 15:57.16 | linduxed | OpenTokix: i though the debian-version of clamav might be outdated or something, is there some other scanning utility |
| 15:57.27 | stew | linduxed: are you getting clamav from volatile? |
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| 15:57.33 | nkuttler | linduxed: mkfs? seriously, google some live cd virus checker |
| 15:57.35 | OpenTokix | linduxed: since its debian related (according to stew). - Try adding the volatile sources to your apt.sources to get latest database for the clamav-package |
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| 15:58.23 | enouf | hikenboot: http://www.sysresccd.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8120&sid=73abcce6e779245facad25f81b4792ad is an interesting read - recent too |
| 15:58.30 | linduxed | OpenTokix: will try |
| 15:58.40 | hikenboot | thanks enouf |
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| 15:59.23 | enouf | hikenboot: (though, i think it's mostly concerned when using their minishell boot) |
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| 16:01.43 | xiangfu | Hi, I know there is a command. can check the source code's copyright. and list where is not GPL. |
| 16:02.06 | xiangfu | have anyone remember that that command is. |
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| 16:02.16 | metalfan_ | linduxed, virustotal.com for single files, but i think ist detection only |
| 16:02.37 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps |
| 16:02.43 | xiangfu | that command will check all the file in correct folder. |
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| 16:02.57 | xiangfu | all the source code in correct folder |
| 16:02.58 | bbelt16ag | I got like 20 apps open and my system is not using my swap.. is there a way to test it? or make it use it? |
| 16:02.59 | bzed | xiangfu: license-check or so form the devscripts package |
| 16:03.07 | linduxed | metalfan_: will check |
| 16:03.12 | bbelt16ag | no errors on swapon -a |
| 16:03.14 | bzed | xiangfu: but it may not detect all issues... it helps, though |
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| 16:03.46 | xiangfu | bzed: thanks. |
| 16:03.56 | enouf | bbelt16ag: what does cat /proc/swaps and free -m say? pastebin please |
| 16:04.06 | enouf | bbelt16ag: grep swap /etc/fstab as well |
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| 16:04.16 | bbelt16ag | ok |
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| 16:05.15 | mmek | does anybody know how i could use debirf to put a customized debian setup into a ramdisk? |
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| 16:05.42 | jelly-home | what's a |
| 16:05.45 | jelly-home | !debirf |
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| 16:06.12 | jelly-home | !test |
| 16:06.12 | dpkg | epic test fail |
| 16:06.26 | mmek | debirf is at http://cmrg.fifthhorseman.net/wiki/debirf |
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| 16:06.27 | bbelt16ag | http://pastebin.ca/1482026 |
| 16:06.30 | ajavid | I have mplayer-mozilla, amd64codecs and ff3.5 and wmv files won't open in a plugin, about:plugin shows the same plugins for both iceweasel 3.0.11 AND for shiretoko3.5pre |
| 16:06.31 | bbelt16ag | there way enouf |
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| 16:06.38 | saiko`` | how do I reconfigure keyboard layout in debian 5.0? dpkg-reconfigure console-data doesnt work |
| 16:06.42 | bbelt16ag | er ya go |
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| 16:06.46 | ajavid | any idea where I might look to see why it wants to always download wmv files instead of playing in the browser |
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| 16:07.03 | ajavid | also, this happens in icewesel 3.0.11 stable as well |
| 16:07.13 | ajavid | so same behaviour in ice as in ff |
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| 16:07.27 | mmek | or would it be easier to take the knoppix tutorial on how to customize a livecd? |
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| 16:07.56 | ajavid | oops, w53codecs |
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| 16:08.02 | ajavid | fuck, w64* |
| 16:08.37 | enouf | bbelt16ag: hang tight |
| 16:08.41 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 16:08.49 | bbelt16ag | I am hanging 10 hehe |
| 16:09.07 | bbelt16ag | spent all night making my swap bigger , |
| 16:09.16 | ajavid | about:plugins shows this ... in IW and in FF, application/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes |
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| 16:09.29 | ajavid | Windows Media Player Plug-in |
| 16:09.31 | ajavid | File name: mplayerplug-in-wmp.so mplayerplug-in 3.55 |
| 16:09.42 | ajavid | still no dice, wmv wants to download |
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| 16:10.46 | bbelt16ag | my swapiness is 60 in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness |
| 16:10.54 | bbelt16ag | swapiness... |
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| 16:11.01 | bbelt16ag | so shouldn't it be swapin? |
| 16:11.03 | enouf | bbelt16ag: how the heck does "grep swap /etc/fstab" yield all those non-matching lines? lmao |
| 16:11.14 | bbelt16ag | alias... |
| 16:11.14 | enouf | bbelt16ag: that was my next question |
| 16:11.26 | bbelt16ag | I got tired of not seeing what I wanted to see.. |
| 16:11.28 | Raggs_ | hi all, i have a new install of Lenny and wireless does work, i installed firmware-iwlwifi and usually the wireless works, but not this time, any ideas? |
| 16:11.28 | enouf | bbelt16ag: you have an 8G swap? |
| 16:11.47 | bbelt16ag | yes. |
| 16:11.47 | enouf | bbelt16ag: with 2G of RAM? are you mad? |
| 16:11.47 | Raggs_ | wireless does not work |
| 16:11.47 | enouf | :-p |
| 16:12.02 | bbelt16ag | after a long day I would try to suspend and it would say swap was too small. don't want it to happen again. |
| 16:12.23 | bbelt16ag | I am tired and cranky and don't want to spend another 30 min rebooting and then hibernating.. |
| 16:12.35 | enouf | bbelt16ag: er .. i think there was a limit of swapsize - had to be 2G at one point, IINM, perhaps that;s all changed (at that time, you'd just make 4 swaps to get 8G) |
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| 16:12.50 | enouf | ahh .. |
| 16:12.50 | bbelt16ag | ok... |
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| 16:13.41 | karihre | (I have 8GB swap - no problems) |
| 16:13.56 | ajavid | has anyone in debian stable with iceweasel 3.0.11 have any luck getting mplayer-mozilla or vlc plugin to not download the avi/wmv files and play in browser? I can't get it to work. It just watns to download the files. Please advise |
| 16:14.04 | bbelt16ag | ok |
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| 16:14.24 | enouf | bbelt16ag: how does cat /etc/fstab stop you from seeing what you want to see, and yet somehow alias'ing grep to do what cat would do works better for you? :-P |
| 16:14.25 | bbelt16ag | what can I do to make it try to swap encode 20 movies at one time |
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| 16:15.21 | bbelt16ag | ok... I got like 100k lines of logs . I want to find all the ERROR etc in them. but I want to see why it errorer right? so I put in the -A 5 -B 5 on grep so I can see what it is |
| 16:15.23 | enouf | bbelt16ag: try making 4 separate swaps, but you can make them swapFILES since you're not using them for suspend - but .. note; you could also suspend to a swapFILE if you wanted .. |
| 16:15.37 | bbelt16ag | ok... |
| 16:15.55 | bbelt16ag | mmm |
| 16:16.13 | enouf | bbelt16ag: ahh .. the -A -B thing - i do that sometimes, but i'd never alias my grep to always do that :-P |
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| 16:16.17 | elux | hey guys |
| 16:16.21 | ajavid | also, apart from this issue, I was on spike.com last night watching the Deatliest Warrior episode, and I noticed for the first time that it plays the video for a few minuts, and then gets stuck for a few seconds like its thinking/buffering (though video is already loaded all the way) skips alot and then resumes. Lits its swapping, and I have 8GB ram. Whats up with this |
| 16:16.26 | ajavid | ? |
| 16:16.28 | Gun_Smoke | enouf: IINM =? |
| 16:16.28 | elux | in a shell, what is the hotkey to go to the start of a line, or to skip between words left and right? |
| 16:16.41 | ajavid | like* |
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| 16:17.19 | enouf | bbelt16ag: alias grepster='grep -A 5 -B 5' next time :-) |
| 16:17.25 | enouf | !iinm |
| 16:17.25 | dpkg | iinm is probably "If I'm Not Mistaken" |
| 16:17.41 | Gun_Smoke | check |
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| 16:18.13 | enouf | elux: in console or X? |
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| 16:18.25 | elux | enouf: console .. and X |
| 16:18.28 | bbelt16ag | or I could of \grep /etc/fstab |
| 16:18.29 | enouf | elux: Home key should jump to start of line |
| 16:18.32 | bbelt16ag | and not have the alias heh |
| 16:18.37 | enouf | elux: different |
| 16:18.47 | karihre | bbelt16ag, or $ unalias grep |
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| 16:19.09 | enouf | elux: ctrl+right/left arrow jumps full words either way |
| 16:19.13 | bbelt16ag | potato potato.... dosnt have the same ring in text |
| 16:19.41 | bbelt16ag | k gonna try to suspend |
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| 16:19.49 | enouf | bbelt16ag: wait .. |
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| 16:20.06 | enouf | bbelt16ag: nm .. go ahead |
| 16:20.11 | enouf | too much to explain |
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| 16:22.24 | enouf | elux: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Control_keys |
| 16:22.24 | ajavid | enouf, vmware don't build cuz of this... |
| 16:22.32 | ajavid | http://communities.vmware.com/thread/208963;jsessionid=9375DDDC8775E901F70ED3FAA3F60072?tstart=0 |
| 16:22.43 | enouf | ajavid: yikes |
| 16:22.43 | ajavid | AND the patch is a fail on 2.6.30-1-amd64 |
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| 16:22.57 | ajavid | it applies on pristine kernel just fine |
| 16:22.58 | fxiny | ajavid: in lenny ? |
| 16:23.00 | ajavid | debian patches fuck it up |
| 16:23.04 | ajavid | fxiny, yes |
| 16:23.10 | enouf | fxiny: ! |
| 16:23.14 | bbelt16ag | enouf: what |
| 16:23.14 | ajavid | so I'm trying to figure out wtf is goin on |
| 16:23.15 | fxiny | it works with a psycho patch |
| 16:23.16 | bbelt16ag | I am back |
| 16:23.16 | enouf | gotta run though :-/ |
| 16:23.23 | ajavid | fxiny, psycho? |
| 16:23.23 | fxiny | enouf: hey |
| 16:23.24 | bbelt16ag | enouf: what? |
| 16:23.32 | ajavid | fxiny, have a link my good man |
| 16:23.33 | fxiny | ajavid: yes . lemme see |
| 16:23.33 | ajavid | ? |
| 16:23.35 | enouf | bbelt16ag: did it suspend? |
| 16:23.38 | ajavid | oh fantastic |
| 16:23.39 | bbelt16ag | yes |
| 16:23.40 | ajavid | fxiny, thank you |
| 16:23.45 | enouf | bbelt16ag: then nm :-) |
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| 16:24.13 | ajavid | Josh said his patch would work fine... |
| 16:24.18 | ajavid | dumbass :) |
| 16:24.29 | ajavid | who the hell is psycho? |
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| 16:24.36 | enouf | ajavid: easy on the names there champ ;-) |
| 16:24.52 | enouf | ajavid: i think he meant a 'psycho patch' |
| 16:24.57 | _entr0py | Hi, I am on Lenny 5.0.2 & there seems to be a bug in 'User and accounts' settings, it sets the working directory of root to '/home/root' when it should have been '/root' |
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| 16:25.12 | ajavid | enouf, yeh, my best friend is a moron, idiot, psycho, retard.. omg look I'm namecalling someone whose not even here! omg! I'm gonna get banned! oh noes. |
| 16:25.16 | ajavid | enouf, I get it. I'm down. |
| 16:25.31 | enouf | _entr0py: reportbug please |
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| 16:25.51 | Caesarli | Hm, i figured out, that I gotta attach the HD to the RAID port, when I want to use raid... But the installer just hangs on the same point. |
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| 16:26.06 | elux | enouf: thanks |
| 16:26.08 | ajavid | Caesarli, mobo raid port? |
| 16:26.44 | Caesarli | Seems so... |
| 16:26.54 | ajavid | I've got two slots, port 7 and port 8 are supposed to be raid provided by motherboard, quite crappy |
| 16:27.06 | enouf | Caesarli: i was going to say, try connecting drive to OTHER sata controller chip - if it's on JMicron now, move it over to the nVidia one, ... like so |
| 16:27.29 | ajavid | JMB36X is fully supported on 2.6.26 |
| 16:27.46 | ajavid | isn't that the raid controller on those gigabyte mobos? |
| 16:27.48 | enouf | Caesarli: you don't need mainboard dmraid for linux mdadm softraid |
| 16:28.08 | enouf | ajavid: i'm guessing which chips |
| 16:28.18 | enouf | ajavid: example, mi amigo, example |
| 16:28.22 | ajavid | i see |
| 16:28.48 | ajavid | no.. jmb363 is the pata controller on ICH8 mobos that dont' have pata support due to lack of shipset |
| 16:28.52 | ajavid | chipest |
| 16:28.53 | ajavid | fuck it. |
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| 16:29.12 | ajavid | the raid is provided by gigabyte itself on the mobo (at least on mine I think) |
| 16:29.45 | ajavid | well, its a generic pata controller anyway |
| 16:30.07 | bbelt16ag | it sswaping yaya |
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| 16:30.25 | _entr0py | ugh .. dpkg tells me to check 'tldp' when asked 'how to file a bug?' |
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| 16:30.43 | elux | ^A and ^E is what i was looking for :) |
| 16:30.45 | ajavid | _entr0py, use the package 'reportbug' and follow instructios |
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| 16:30.58 | _entr0py | ajavid: thank you! |
| 16:31.26 | ajavid | yup |
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| 16:33.00 | Neo1211_ | My server's eth0 device has had 16GB of received data and 68.58 GB of sent data in the past 17 days |
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| 16:33.08 | Neo1211_ | That's a lot more than it used to be |
| 16:33.09 | Neo1211_ | Any ideas? :\ |
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| 16:33.28 | enouf | bbelt16ag: so, to recap, what had to be done? |
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| 16:34.16 | fxiny | ajavid: vmware-server 1.9 , do the gcc-4.1 export , grab vmware-any-any-update117-itpsycho.tar.bz2 , install libx11-6_1.0.3-7_i386.deb and modify /usr/local/lib/vmware/lib/wrapper-gtk24.sh : add after vm_append_lib 'libXrender.so.1' this line : vm_append_lib 'libX11.so.6.2.0' |
| 16:34.18 | enouf | Neo1211_: it's sending a shitload of info out to ... _something_ |
| 16:34.36 | Neo1211_ | yeah. |
| 16:34.39 | Neo1211_ | I know that much |
| 16:34.40 | Neo1211_ | lol |
| 16:34.55 | fxiny | enouf: seen ? i haave a new friend :P |
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| 16:35.14 | enouf | Neo1211_: iftop is a tool you can use to watch connections to which IP/Host |
| 16:35.33 | enouf | fxiny: bravo! :-) |
| 16:35.52 | enouf | fxiny: now he'll leave me alone :-P |
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| 16:36.16 | enouf | Neo1211_: there are many that allow for that |
| 16:36.24 | fxiny | enouf: i don't care about vmwarez but if they insist i do google all day and night to make it working :) |
| 16:36.36 | enouf | fxiny: haha |
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| 16:36.42 | Neo1211_ | so, enouf |
| 16:36.46 | Neo1211_ | Should I leave this running or what? |
| 16:36.53 | leoechevarria | haya |
| 16:37.04 | enouf | why not? maybe it was legitimate file tranfers? |
| 16:37.10 | Neo1211_ | Doubt it |
| 16:37.17 | enouf | how the heck would i know? |
| 16:37.32 | enouf | it's a friggin server! |
| 16:37.37 | Neo1211_ | ... right. |
| 16:37.44 | enouf | servers serve things? |
| 16:37.44 | Neo1211_ | a server that hosts a webserver for smalltime shit |
| 16:37.48 | Neo1211_ | an irc server |
| 16:37.50 | ajavid | fxiny, thanks a bunch |
| 16:37.51 | Neo1211_ | and a few irc bots |
| 16:38.00 | Neo1211_ | that's nothing that would use 68+GB |
| 16:38.15 | Neo1211_ | I'm 90% sure it's not legitimate |
| 16:38.22 | enouf | Neo1211_: maybe the bots are creating enormous log files? |
| 16:38.31 | fxiny | ajavid: np |
| 16:38.34 | Neo1211_ | log... |
| 16:38.38 | Neo1211_ | that'd be HDD space |
| 16:38.41 | Neo1211_ | not bandwidth |
| 16:38.48 | enouf | and sending them over the network to somewhere other? |
| 16:38.54 | Neo1211_ | shouldn't be. |
| 16:39.07 | enouf | any other PCs on the LAN? |
| 16:39.12 | enouf | check their incoming |
| 16:39.32 | Neo1211_ | hold on |
| 16:39.48 | enouf | Neo1211_: not HDD _alone_ space concerning transferring over the network |
| 16:39.52 | Neo1211_ | my other server here |
| 16:39.52 | elux | if im running lenny, and i install say git-core/testing, and then i run apt-get upgrade (and my preferences are set stable > testing > unstable), and there is an update for git-core from testing, will it upgrade from testing or stable.. or what? |
| 16:40.00 | Neo1211_ | only has 179.32MB received, 339.73MB sent |
| 16:40.41 | enouf | Neo1211_: you're being rooted? run chrootkit? other things? don't kill it till you find out what it is/was |
| 16:40.56 | Neo1211_ | I run chkrootkit and rkhunter regularly |
| 16:40.57 | Neo1211_ | lol |
| 16:41.09 | enouf | Neo1211_: try ##networking, or wait/query the others |
| 16:41.27 | Neo1211_ | hold on |
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| 16:41.50 | Neo1211_ | you know what |
| 16:41.55 | Neo1211_ | maybe this does make sense, kinda |
| 16:42.03 | enouf | elux: testing .. depending - it always wants to get the newest version possible run update prior |
| 16:42.06 | Neo1211_ | well not really |
| 16:42.12 | Neo1211_ | I use it as an SMB server and it hosts most of my music |
| 16:42.15 | Neo1211_ | but I don't have THAT much msuic |
| 16:42.35 | enouf | elux: the depending depends on actual pinning settings and/or Default-Release in apt.conf |
| 16:42.56 | elux | enouf: in my sources.list, i have stable, testing, unstable and experimental .. it might sound crazy, but i dont mind controlling the stability with hand picked packages. for example i need mysql 5.1 and git-core 1.6 |
| 16:43.22 | brah | how about running an apt-get upgrade |
| 16:43.34 | enouf | elux: unstable pkgs can usually be backported to Lenny, if BPO doesn't already have them |
| 16:43.35 | hikenboot | enouf would you be able to point me to a doc on creating chroots on lvm and raid ? |
| 16:44.00 | enouf | hikenboot: that RaidCrypto one mentions some of it |
| 16:44.06 | hikenboot | ah ok thanks |
| 16:44.34 | enouf | hikenboot: you just chroot /dev/mapper/WHATEVER ; mount /proc ; do your work |
| 16:44.57 | Neo1211_ | enouf: Is there any way to reset that counter so I can see how fast it goes up? |
| 16:44.57 | enouf | hopefully all the LVM stuff was already mounted properly during boot |
| 16:44.59 | Neo1211_ | Other than rebooting? |
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| 16:45.46 | enouf | Neo1211_: you could do "watch tail /proc/net/dev" and/or use the tools, of which i mentioned iftop |
| 16:45.55 | bbelt16ag | a suspend? |
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| 16:46.18 | enouf | bbelt16ag: did you ever answer me? |
| 16:46.29 | bbelt16ag | I just did |
| 16:46.36 | bbelt16ag | all I did was suspend and it began using it |
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| 16:46.40 | bbelt16ag | er hiberate |
| 16:46.47 | enouf | < enouf> bbelt16ag: so, to recap, what had to be done? |
| 16:46.59 | bbelt16ag | all I did was suspend |
| 16:47.05 | enouf | bbelt16ag: why did it not prior? what did you change? |
| 16:47.16 | bbelt16ag | nothing |
| 16:47.23 | enouf | ... |
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| 16:47.45 | enouf | < bbelt16ag> after a long day I would try to suspend and it would say swap was too small. don't want it to |
| 16:47.48 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.53 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.08 | bbelt16ag | yeah |
| 16:48.15 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:48.21 | enouf | takes some more drugs |
| 16:48.28 | bbelt16ag | oh ok, your asking what I didn on the whole. |
| 16:49.19 | bbelt16ag | all I did was make my swap bigger, and then turned swapon and makswap the file, and finally I rebooted a few times and then suspend to swap and it started using it |
| 16:49.33 | bbelt16ag | Swap: 8193108 712660 7480448 |
| 16:50.04 | enouf | karihre: i missed your comment about 8G swap - does it get used during normal operation? (i.e; not supending, nor hibernating and such) |
| 16:50.20 | bbelt16ag | Swap: 8193108 712660 7480448 |
| 16:50.25 | bbelt16ag | its being used right now |
| 16:50.31 | bbelt16ag | ... |
| 16:50.33 | enouf | bbelt16ag: cat /proc/swaps shows it was always available |
| 16:50.44 | bbelt16ag | yes |
| 16:50.51 | fxiny | 8G ? wts :P |
| 16:51.06 | enouf | fxiny: wt4x! ;0 |
| 16:51.11 | fxiny | enouf: heheeh |
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| 16:51.32 | enouf | bbelt16ag: his suspend is using 7GB+ .. heh |
| 16:51.39 | bbelt16ag | never can have too much swap |
| 16:51.46 | bbelt16ag | it was at 2GB and it was too small |
| 16:51.58 | bbelt16ag | if you look at free its using 1GB right now |
| 16:51.59 | jelly-home | bbelt16ag: your workload is wierd |
| 16:52.08 | bbelt16ag | so 3gb would have been enough |
| 16:52.11 | bbelt16ag | weird? |
| 16:52.19 | bbelt16ag | how so |
| 16:52.49 | bbelt16ag | never siad I was normal. |
| 16:52.51 | enouf | bbelt16ag: but i wonder, if you also create a 2G one, and under your normal 20 app usage, will it start using that smaller swap - IOW, perhaps the 8G one is finally being used due to suspend/hibernate |
| 16:53.17 | jelly-home | bbelt16ag: if you regularly have lots of swap used, why not buy more ram, or fix your leaky apps |
| 16:53.43 | enouf | jelly-home: heree was the inital info - http://pastebin.ca/raw/1482026 |
| 16:53.53 | enouf | initial even |
| 16:53.56 | bbelt16ag | I am using repo apps, they shouldn't be leaky, and I am broke atm I want more ram. just no one will hire me :( but that's another book.. |
| 16:54.08 | leoechevarria | people, have you ever heard of a reason (hopefully stupid) for a debian sid slow down from night to morning? i didn't make a single update...it just started working too slow, now it hurts to change between apps and tabs (it's a pentium dual core t4200, 2gb ram) |
| 16:54.13 | enouf | turns the page |
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| 16:55.10 | enouf | leoechevarria: pastebin output of free -m please - run top/htop and see what's using CPU% |
| 16:55.54 | leoechevarria | enouf: that's what is weird... cpu load is fine, and i'm just using 300mb of ram |
| 16:56.00 | enouf | leoechevarria: if using ext3, try the noatime mount option as well - run vmstat 3 and watch the output |
| 16:56.20 | leoechevarria | anyway i'll see what you say |
| 16:57.13 | enouf | leoechevarria: and uptime shows the load as? |
| 16:57.35 | leoechevarria | 13:58:00 up 28 min, 3 users, load average: 0.40, 0.77, 0.69 |
| 16:57.42 | enouf | that's low |
| 16:57.53 | leoechevarria | i never understood that way of measuring the load... 1,0 is 100% of cpu ? |
| 16:57.59 | enouf | no |
| 16:58.04 | fxiny | is a strange algo |
| 16:58.08 | enouf | it's a 15 min summary, IIRC |
| 16:58.14 | fxiny | hard to say what |
| 16:58.30 | leoechevarria | and what's the max? |
| 16:58.43 | enouf | but load includes all sorts of waits, I/O, network, CPU, etc |
| 16:59.00 | enouf | 100 million :-p |
| 16:59.31 | enouf | leoechevarria: could be your Browser cache is set too big? |
| 16:59.40 | enouf | you said Tabs and such |
| 16:59.55 | bbelt16ag | ok... I really screwed up on the server.. I got a 700mb swap wth.. |
| 16:59.56 | leoechevarria | enouf: i'm using konversation |
| 16:59.58 | enouf | where's my pastebin? |
| 16:59.59 | OpenTokix | lostson: no, its number of processes in the runque, average for the last 1 min, 5 min and 15 min. |
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| 17:00.07 | OpenTokix | leoechevarria: ^^^ |
| 17:00.08 | enouf | leoechevarria: logging - turn it off |
| 17:00.09 | leoechevarria | and it tkes a lot of time even on showing what i'm writing |
| 17:00.11 | OpenTokix | lostson: sorry, wrong tab-completion |
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| 17:00.25 | enouf | OpenTokix: right - thanks for clarifying |
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| 17:00.50 | leoechevarria | enouf: it's sow changing between konversation or ff tabs, opening nautilus, changing between other apps |
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| 17:00.55 | OpenTokix | leoechevarria: Also, if you have a high load - you can use top to see what processes is doing. - Where the "CPU(s)" line shows it broken down. |
| 17:00.55 | enouf | !load |
| 17:01.01 | enouf | !uptime |
| 17:01.01 | Python | WindowsVista Uptime: 2wks 4days 14hrs 34mins 49secs Best: 2wks 4days 14hrs 34mins 49secs |
| 17:01.06 | justin | fail |
| 17:01.09 | enouf | wtf? |
| 17:01.11 | OpenTokix | haha |
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| 17:01.25 | fxiny | vinsta ? |
| 17:01.40 | enouf | !vmstat |
| 17:02.01 | enouf | leoechevarria: hrm, slow redrawing? |
| 17:02.11 | enouf | where's my pastebin?!! |
| 17:02.26 | kriox | !debian.it |
| 17:02.30 | leoechevarria | enouf: you asked for many pastebins, which one would you like first :p ? |
| 17:02.31 | fxiny | sends enouf a cornetto |
| 17:02.41 | enouf | leoechevarria: that in itself will use much more than 300MB |
| 17:02.53 | enouf | leoechevarria: free -m |
| 17:02.53 | kriox | hi |
| 17:03.23 | kriox | the lenny work on the 900mghz and 256 m of ram? |
| 17:03.35 | enouf | run vmstat in a terminal, and switch apps (make things slow) |
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| 17:03.51 | enouf | kriox: yes |
| 17:03.53 | adb | !it |
| 17:03.53 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:03.55 | enouf | kriox: easily |
| 17:03.56 | fxiny | even less here : 400 and 223948 |
| 17:04.08 | enouf | kriox: add more RAM if you want a DE with candy though |
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| 17:04.29 | kriox | no i don't need candy |
| 17:04.32 | leoechevarria | enouf: http://pastebin.com/d70168a78 |
| 17:04.38 | enouf | kriox: X + WM? |
| 17:04.53 | kriox | ??? |
| 17:05.00 | enouf | just go light - you'll be fine - make a swap partition and use, as a precaution |
| 17:05.07 | enouf | !Xserver |
| 17:05.12 | enouf | omg |
| 17:05.15 | enouf | !WM |
| 17:05.16 | dpkg | window manager is, like, a special class of X applications which decorates and manages windows for the X server. To list your available window managers, run "apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager". Not to be confused with a desktop environment such as <GNOME> or <KDE>. To set your system-wide default window manager, use "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager". For a guide to available window managers, see http://xwinman.org/ |
| 17:06.12 | kriox | now i use a 8.04 kubuntu version |
| 17:06.26 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:06.38 | kriox | but i think that a lenny whik kde is lighter |
| 17:06.51 | justin | kriox: don't run KDE |
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| 17:07.09 | enouf | leoechevarria: dunno - can only think it's FS related .. odd ... |
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| 17:07.27 | kriox | justin: why?? |
| 17:07.31 | enouf | kriox: add more ram to run kde |
| 17:07.34 | leoechevarria | enouf: or gnome proble... |
| 17:07.45 | enouf | leoechevarria: perhaps .. i don't use it |
| 17:07.57 | kriox | therefore is better Xfce? |
| 17:08.04 | ranix | many people have many opinions as to what they consider the word 'bloat' to be, and what 'bloated' enails, kriox. A majority of those people consider KDE to be described appropriately by their version of the word |
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| 17:08.07 | leoechevarria | enouf: how would i notice an fs problem? |
| 17:08.11 | ranix | I personally use XFCE4 |
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| 17:08.21 | ranix | enTails |
| 17:08.23 | enouf | leoechevarria: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log and show me the one line of your video driver |
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| 17:08.34 | druide0256 | away [<pasla>] |
| 17:08.35 | leoechevarria | enouf: alright |
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| 17:08.42 | enouf | leoechevarria: well .. |
| 17:09.11 | leoechevarria | ana@acer:~$ grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:09.11 | leoechevarria | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so |
| 17:09.13 | leoechevarria | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//evdev_drv.so |
| 17:09.14 | leoechevarria | (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so |
| 17:09.18 | enouf | without noatime/relatime a write is performed for every read |
| 17:09.28 | enouf | on ext3 atleast |
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| 17:10.05 | elux | enouf: how can i make it so that i can use pinning to install specific packages from testing,unstable,exp .. but if i run apt-get upgrade that it will upgrade packages only from stable.. or if i installed from testing, upgrade those packages from testing .. |
| 17:10.08 | enouf | leoechevarria: dpkg -l libgl1-mesa-* | grep ^.i |
| 17:10.09 | kriox | ranix: yes but i find kde more easy |
| 17:10.27 | elux | http://pastebin.com/me4fa8e5 this is my /etc/apt/preferences file |
| 17:10.27 | ranix | kriox: kde will be about as slow as Windows XP on a 900mhz computer |
| 17:10.32 | enouf | leoechevarria: install mesautils and run glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 17:11.00 | leoechevarria | direct rendering is enabled |
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| 17:11.12 | enouf | ranix: hey, windows xp pro with NO ServicePacks on a 700MHz is not slow ;-) |
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| 17:11.36 | enouf | ranix: no internet access either :-P |
| 17:11.42 | enouf | i wouldn't dare allow it |
| 17:11.54 | enouf | leoechevarria: good |
| 17:11.54 | leoechevarria | enouf: glxgears goes from 50 to 300 fps and back |
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| 17:12.04 | leoechevarria | enouf: not stable at all |
| 17:12.04 | enouf | that doesn't matter .. but ok |
| 17:12.05 | ranix | kriox: http://linuxreviews.org/software/desktops/#toc4 |
| 17:12.06 | fxiny | enouf: no service pack ? i'll have the ip for a samba .... |
| 17:12.49 | enouf | elux: sorry, i can't be bothered atm ... i gotta run real soon, and id have to really siphon through all your info |
| 17:13.03 | elux | well thanks anyways. ttyl |
| 17:13.14 | wark | Hey everyone, I was hoping someone might have a solution to a little problem. I'm trying to do a net install of Lenny, and it's getting to the 'detecting disks' phase, but it's not detecting my Western Digital SATA drive, any suggestions? |
| 17:13.24 | kriox | ranix: on the xfce 4 there is somethings kde system settings, this program help me a lot |
| 17:13.55 | enouf | leoechevarria: i suppose dpkg -l libgl1-mesa-* | grep ^.i is not going to be shown? though i sup[pose it's installed with direct = yes |
| 17:13.56 | karihre | enouf, It definitely goes above 2GB though I haven't seen it fill up |
| 17:14.15 | enouf | karihre: ok - good to know |
| 17:14.28 | karihre | :) |
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| 17:14.48 | enouf | kriox: even openbox-session honors gnome and/or kde and/or xfce settings |
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| 17:15.47 | enouf | leoechevarria: is your mouse or keys slow too? |
| 17:15.50 | leoechevarria | ana@acer:~$ dpkg -l libgl1-mesa-* | grep ^.i |
| 17:15.50 | leoechevarria | ii libgl1-mesa-dri 7.4.4-1 A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules |
| 17:15.52 | leoechevarria | ii libgl1-mesa-glx 7.4.4-1 A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime |
| 17:16.04 | enouf | leoechevarria: are you using any cpufreq-utils or laptop-mode? |
| 17:16.07 | elux | how can i install nginx with ssl support? the default package doesnt come with it .. is there a way to specify configure options on a package? |
| 17:16.48 | enouf | leoechevarria: grep 'cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:17.03 | leoechevarria | enouf: i have a gnome applet that controls cpufreqt on demand...and ac adaptor is connected now |
| 17:17.09 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps |
| 17:17.17 | wark | Is there a special boot option to tell the installer to detect SATA drives? |
| 17:17.22 | enouf | leoechevarria: do you switch from Battery to Adapter between day->night? |
| 17:17.30 | enouf | ahh |
| 17:17.34 | bbelt16ag | when companies do background checks do the normally do credit checks for a job offer? |
| 17:17.46 | bbelt16ag | do they care if I got a lot of student loans? |
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| 17:17.59 | enouf | leoechevarria: man cpufreq-utils or whatever - see if you're using ondemand, conservative, etc |
| 17:18.20 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: hi, this is #debian |
| 17:18.34 | abrotman | wark: it should already do it |
| 17:18.36 | enouf | !cpufreq-utils |
| 17:18.41 | enouf | !cpufrequtils |
| 17:18.42 | abrotman | !cpufreq |
| 17:18.42 | dpkg | hmm... cpufreq is a patch (http://www.brodo.de/cpufreq_old) to the 2.4.x kernels to support frequency scaling on mobile x86, PowerPC and ARM processors. It has been merged into the 2.6.x series. It provides a simple interface (/proc/cpufreq) through which userspace daemons like cpudynd (in the "cpudyn" package) can throttle processor speed to save power when the system is idle. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling |
| 17:18.46 | abrotman | ? |
| 17:19.08 | enouf | abrotman: i thought cpufreqd is an old bad thing nowadays |
| 17:19.14 | bbelt16ag | sorry... |
| 17:19.15 | enouf | wtf do i know |
| 17:19.25 | enouf | i go full bore on my p2 :-) |
| 17:19.39 | abrotman | enouf: htf do i know .. i don't have fancy hardware like you! |
| 17:19.44 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: maybe #debian-offtopic ? |
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| 17:20.10 | leoechevarria | ana@acer:~$ grep 'cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:20.11 | enouf | !laptop task |
| 17:20.12 | dpkg | Laptop task packages in Lenny: acpi, acpid, acpi-support, anacron, apmd, avahi-autoipd, bluetooth, cpufrequtils, hibernate, nvclock, pcmciautils, powertop, radeontool, toshset, vbetool, wireless-tools, wpasupplicant. See <tasksel>. |
| 17:20.14 | leoechevarria | cpu MHz: 2000.000 |
| 17:20.14 | leoechevarria | cpu MHz: 1200.000 |
| 17:20.44 | enouf | leoechevarria: and what are they supposed to be? 2G each core? |
| 17:20.46 | elux | why is it so difficult to install nginx with ssl support on debian? |
| 17:20.53 | elux | i have to compile it from source? |
| 17:21.16 | justin | !+depends nginx |
| 17:21.17 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 17:21.35 | leoechevarria | enouf: yep |
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| 17:21.56 | dpkg | nginx: depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4), libpcre3 (>= 7.7), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) |
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| 17:22.05 | elux | yes i realize |
| 17:22.14 | elux | but i want to compile with ssl support .. |
| 17:22.21 | abrotman | but it already has it |
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| 17:22.22 | wark | abrotman: I thought so to, but I get the following message: No disk drive was detected. If you know the name of the driver needed by your disk drive, you can select it from the list. |
| 17:22.32 | kriox | enouf: but lenny whit xfce4 is more easy than ubuntu 8.04 whit xfce4? |
| 17:22.36 | abrotman | wark: pretty new hardware ? |
| 17:22.44 | abrotman | kriox: with? |
| 17:22.48 | enouf | leoechevarria: investigate how to get it back to full scale .. man cpufreq<tab><tab> will tabcomplete choices |
| 17:22.50 | elux | ok yes you are right. please ignore me. |
| 17:22.52 | elux | :S |
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| 17:23.03 | enouf | kriox: more easy? |
| 17:23.08 | kriox | sorry ..light |
| 17:23.23 | enouf | kriox: lxde is supposed to be light, for a DE |
| 17:23.28 | wark | abrotman: yeah, just bought the whole thing |
| 17:23.43 | enouf | kriox: are you in the US? |
| 17:23.52 | enouf | kriox: want new cheap SDRAM? |
| 17:24.06 | enouf | that's not a craptop, is it? |
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| 17:24.34 | kriox | enouf: no i'm in italy |
| 17:24.40 | enouf | fxiny: !! |
| 17:24.44 | enouf | heh |
| 17:24.53 | enouf | kriox: ebay.it ? |
| 17:25.11 | ranix | kriox: There is only one major reason to use Debian over Ubuntu, if you're already an Ubuntu user; the mentality of the maintainers and project, the general direction of the distribution |
| 17:25.22 | ranix | !tell kriox -about policy |
| 17:25.26 | ranix | !tell kriox -about based on Debian |
| 17:25.30 | enouf | !why debian |
| 17:25.31 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ (archived at http://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian). As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
| 17:26.22 | enouf | kriox: Debian gives more people more choices, not catering to what most want, at the expense of the DFSG |
| 17:26.36 | enouf | kriox: s/most/most weenies/ :-) |
| 17:26.48 | ranix | kriox: there are many small, fundamental differences between distributions and enumerating them is impossible, as is quantifying them. One cannot simply answer you when you ask if something is better in Debian than another distribution |
| 17:26.55 | leoechevarria | enouf: coudl it be a xorg.conf problem? |
| 17:27.05 | ranix | overall, most people in this channel will say Debian is overall more suitable to them. That's why they're here |
| 17:27.09 | enouf | leoechevarria: i don't think so |
| 17:27.18 | enouf | leoechevarria: not from what you;ve shown |
| 17:27.32 | enouf | leoechevarria: i asked about mouse and keys? |
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| 17:28.28 | leoechevarria | enouf: mouse is ok, keys seem to be slow because of overall slowness |
| 17:28.35 | abrotman | wark: /msg dpkg kmuto .. there are some unofficial ones that might work better |
| 17:28.46 | enouf | leoechevarria: there might be bugs in evdev and synaptics even .. i don't know .. use top, toggle cores, i think it's ctrl-1 or soemthing., are most tasks/processes running on the 1200MHz core? |
| 17:28.50 | wark | abrotman: thanks |
| 17:29.07 | kriox | ranix: Sorry for my english, i know that are many and many reasan to use one system to another, but i will use my old computer in the better way |
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| 17:29.46 | kriox | and i search for an help, but it is o.t. iexsume myself |
| 17:29.55 | leoechevarria | enouf: i set it to 2ghz now |
| 17:29.55 | leoechevarria | still he same |
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| 17:29.57 | leoechevarria | brb, i'll see something with the xorg |
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| 17:30.26 | lindenle | So when do we get the new iceweasel? |
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| 17:30.47 | kriox | thanks for all |
| 17:30.51 | enouf | has decided to procrastinate much more ... |
| 17:31.00 | abrotman | anyone point him to #debian-it ? |
| 17:31.12 | fxiny | enouf: yes ? |
| 17:31.13 | enouf | not yet, not directly |
| 17:31.18 | abrotman | he's gone now |
| 17:31.30 | enouf | fxiny: he's looking for cheap ram in .it .. nm, gone |
| 17:31.58 | enouf | abrotman: maybe when he 1st showed up - someone trigerred the !it factoid |
| 17:32.27 | fxiny | enouf: i'll tell him to google for "fiere elettronica radioamatori" |
| 17:32.39 | enouf | hehe |
| 17:33.13 | fxiny | enouf: that's how i do dvd business with the local butchers ;) |
| 17:33.53 | enouf | recalls something about how laptop-mode has/had a bug in it's scripts between when On Adapter and On battery - and cpufreq or something |
| 17:34.06 | enouf | fxiny: bring me a cow! ;-) |
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| 17:34.45 | enouf | fxiny: been to ikea lately? hard-working brauds :-P |
| 17:34.47 | elux | hey guys. im thinking about making testing my default branch for my system .. does testing have security updates? |
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| 17:35.02 | stew | elux: sometimes. not currently |
| 17:35.03 | enouf | no |
| 17:35.14 | enouf | !testing security |
| 17:35.14 | dpkg | NOTE: there will be no testing security support for some time. Put "deb http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Squeeze. Keep up to date by reading <d-d-a>. Also ask about <d-s-a><apt-listchanges>. |
| 17:35.18 | elux | also. do backport packages originate in testing? |
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| 17:35.26 | fxiny | enouf: ikea ? such a romantic place ;) |
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| 17:35.30 | enouf | no, unstable mostly |
| 17:35.31 | stew | elux: for the most part |
| 17:35.47 | stew | elux: only a couple of packages come from unstable, the bulk is from testing |
| 17:35.48 | mrbob009 | im using lenny on my server atm, what should i need to do to upgrade to postgresql 8.4? |
| 17:35.48 | enouf | well - perhaps once they migrate to testing .. right |
| 17:35.58 | enouf | because of possible major bugs |
| 17:36.06 | elux | i see |
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| 17:36.41 | elux | what im trying to achieve is use stable, but then hand pick certain packages to keep updated to a newer version |
| 17:36.42 | enouf | fxiny: yeah, all that office furniture makes me swooon :-P |
| 17:36.45 | stew | and becuase you would have trouble upgrading from oldstable + backports to newstable if you had packages newer than in newstable |
| 17:37.02 | elux | and then when i run apt-get update / upgrade .. it wont destroy my system, it'll upgrade stable and unstable packages as necessary |
| 17:37.24 | enouf | stew: newstable? that's a 1st for thine ears ;-) |
| 17:37.30 | stew | enouf: you know what I mean |
| 17:37.46 | enouf | yes, yes _i_ do ;-) |
| 17:37.56 | stew | i'm only here for you |
| 17:38.03 | enouf | heh .. liar! |
| 17:38.38 | enouf | stew: who broke alsa so horribly? i might be forced to try 4front .. ugh |
| 17:38.56 | stew | broke how? |
| 17:39.08 | enouf | stew: as in alsamixer controls do nothing |
| 17:39.25 | stew | are you controlling the correct card? |
| 17:39.28 | enouf | all 20k of them |
| 17:39.30 | enouf | yes |
| 17:39.34 | stew | or are you changing the volume on your modem again |
| 17:39.41 | enouf | haha .. quit it |
| 17:39.56 | enouf | emu10k1 |
| 17:40.04 | dustybin | when one dual boots windows and linux, am i right in thinking that you must install windows 1st, and create another partition using the windows installer for linux ? |
| 17:40.12 | stew | i thought it was snd-emu10k1 |
| 17:40.19 | enouf | right .. sorry |
| 17:40.32 | stew | i can't help under these conditions |
| 17:40.34 | enouf | i forget that too sometimes .. but yeah |
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| 17:40.39 | stew | :P |
| 17:40.45 | leoechevarria | enouf: solved :) |
| 17:40.52 | enouf | leoechevarria: ? do tell |
| 17:41.05 | leoechevarria | enouf: changed AccellMethod from UXA to EXA |
| 17:41.10 | fxiny | enouf: is all about the way they look at you when you ask for the office furniture just behind you ;) |
| 17:41.21 | leoechevarria | i had changed it before, don't remember why, and had had no problems |
| 17:41.39 | enouf | leoechevarria: egrep 'EE|WW' /var/log/Xorg.1.log or whatever the older file name is |
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| 17:41.46 | enouf | heh |
| 17:41.51 | fxiny | enouf: we have a truck full of tricks :P |
| 17:41.52 | leoechevarria | now even compiz is wD |
| 17:41.52 | leoechevarria | *working |
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| 17:42.13 | enouf | leoechevarria: but it doesn't explain why .. over the course of a day it slows |
| 17:42.18 | enouf | or does it? |
| 17:42.21 | stew | .1.log wouln't be an older one, it would be the one from DISPLAY=:1 |
| 17:42.51 | enouf | ok, then Xorg.0.log.old |
| 17:42.58 | leoechevarria | enouf: no, not at old |
| 17:43.05 | enouf | whuch is what i was ortiginally goting to say |
| 17:43.27 | leoechevarria | so? what should i paste? |
| 17:43.45 | enouf | leoechevarria: anything in ~/.xsession-errors .. note the times and avoid the useless info |
| 17:43.56 | iaindalton | According to the documentation, "aptitude install gnumeric/sid" would install the sid version of gnumeric, even though I'm on a different distro, right? I get "release not found"; do I need to add a line to sources.list or something? |
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| 17:44.11 | enouf | !listvals uxa |
| 17:44.13 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'uxa' by value (10): tux attacks ;; hsf ;; tuxaqfah ;; asm ;; hcf ;; linux_art ;; apps ;; linux assembly ;; where ;; asmutils. |
| 17:44.19 | enouf | ... |
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| 17:44.55 | enouf | leoechevarria: nothing returned from the .old file? what would you paste then? |
| 17:45.23 | enouf | leoechevarria: wait, you have two Xservers running? |
| 17:45.32 | leoechevarria | enouf: no |
| 17:45.42 | enouf | !confuse me |
| 17:45.43 | dpkg | Yes, who is our weasel tomorrow, enouf? Shirts of the Dictatorship of Belarus with extra anchovies. |
| 17:45.58 | enouf | 13:31 < leoechevarria> enouf: no, not at old |
| 17:46.04 | enouf | means what? |
| 17:46.09 | naided | help |
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| 17:46.22 | ranix | naided: would you like me to call the police |
| 17:46.49 | leoechevarria | enouf: xD |
| 17:46.54 | leoechevarria | not at all :p |
| 17:47.13 | enouf | Acceleration only has one l btw - tell the xorg people |
| 17:47.20 | elux | is there a cron job .. or some script that will check apt if any packages need to be upgraded/security updates and notify me via email? |
| 17:47.38 | enouf | unless that's a typo |
| 17:47.41 | leoechevarria | enouf: alright...sorry, it's just i'm argentinian |
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| 17:47.52 | ranix | leoechevarria: gesundheit |
| 17:47.55 | enouf | and? point is? |
| 17:48.00 | enouf | ranix: heh |
| 17:48.05 | naided | he is not that so to all |
| 17:48.14 | enouf | leoechevarria: typos, i tolerate ! |
| 17:48.16 | fxiny | elux: yes : apticron |
| 17:48.20 | ranix | enouf: the xservers in argentina drain counter-clockwise because they're south of the equator |
| 17:48.36 | ranix | you're going about this entirely the wrong way |
| 17:48.41 | abrotman | fxiny: cron-apt ? |
| 17:48.45 | leoechevarria | english ain't my first language, i mean that |
| 17:48.47 | enouf | leoechevarria: i even tolerate broken spanglish and broken portuglease :-P |
| 17:48.48 | elux | fxiny: wicked. thanks |
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| 17:49.01 | naided | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:49.28 | fxiny | abrotman: that's what i used ! |
| 17:49.29 | enouf | fxiny: wt4x is apticron? .. you're rising to fame you know :-P |
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| 17:49.43 | fxiny | enouf: and cron-apt as abrotman suggests |
| 17:49.47 | enouf | apt-cron, but aptitude version? |
| 17:49.55 | enouf | er yeah - that |
| 17:49.56 | naided | where unloading subjects for debian |
| 17:50.18 | fxiny | enouf: is good for when you come back from the ikea ;) |
| 17:50.33 | naided | }}}}'????:) |
| 17:50.35 | naided | ::) |
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| 17:51.17 | abrotman | naided: ask your questoin |
| 17:51.17 | naided | :) |
| 17:51.24 | leoechevarria | g2g to my old sempron :D |
| 17:51.42 | leoechevarria | thanks to all |
| 17:51.43 | leoechevarria | see ya! |
| 17:51.51 | naided | where unloading subjects for debian |
| 17:52.11 | enouf | leo! |
| 17:52.11 | abrotman | naided: english please |
| 17:52.14 | enouf | http://www.rojtberg.net/67/exa-uxa-dri-gem-ttm/ |
| 17:52.21 | fxiny | enouf: have you noticed ? ajavid disappeared , deadly vmwarez :P |
| 17:52.21 | enouf | now we know |
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| 17:52.47 | enouf | fxiny: no, i hide all /j and /q :-) |
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| 17:53.10 | fxiny | enouf: hehe |
| 17:53.19 | enouf | fxiny: but i know he's gone, cause i don't hear any yappin :-P |
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| 17:55.22 | naided | where I can unload subjects for debian ????????? |
| 17:55.30 | enouf | wonders which debian release and which Xorg versions leo... was running :-/ |
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| 17:55.58 | enouf | and kernel version |
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| 17:56.50 | enouf | wait., libgl1-mesa-* is ii libgl1-mesa-dri 7.4.4-1 |
| 17:56.57 | enouf | some hint |
| 17:57.06 | naided | tankx |
| 17:57.15 | benvdh | hey, some time ago I mentioned that we had a problem with a printer that wasn't functioning very well. Basically what you told me then was that we shouldn't run testing on a production server and that this was probably the cause of the problem. You were right about the cause of the problem then and now we have server running stable. Currently we only have one problem. On the old server we used roundcube webmail. Currently it's not |
| 17:57.21 | mrbob009 | a brother of me is going to logon to a server which i own, but i would like to leave him a unix message |
| 17:57.24 | mrbob009 | with 'mail' |
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| 17:57.38 | mrbob009 | how would i do this? :/ |
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| 17:57.55 | ranix | echo "HEY YOU" | wall! |
| 17:58.00 | mrbob009 | no no |
| 17:58.01 | abrotman | mrbob009: mail <user> .. start typing .. hit ctrl-d to end |
| 17:58.02 | Anxiolytic | My /etc/init.d/postfix is mangled in Lenny. Can I restore this to default? |
| 17:58.03 | benvdh | any suggestions on how to install roundcube in the best possible way ? |
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| 17:58.06 | mrbob009 | he's not online yet ranix |
| 17:58.11 | mrbob009 | and im about to leave.. : ) |
| 17:58.16 | ranix | >:[ well tell him to get his butt online! |
| 17:58.18 | abrotman | or is it a . on a line by itself |
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| 17:58.46 | enouf | benvdh: your message was truncated at "... Currently it's not" |
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| 17:59.31 | benvdh | enouf: Currently it's not in stable, neither could it be found in backports |
| 17:59.45 | mrbob009 | abrotman: !THanksQ!!! that was easy :) thanks! |
| 17:59.50 | Anxiolytic | help! my /etc/init.d/postfix is mangled. Can I restore this to default? |
| 17:59.58 | abrotman | !tell Anxiolytic about confmiss |
| 18:00.07 | mrbob009 | ill be back, thanks : ) |
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| 18:00.44 | Anxiolytic | abrotman: thanks |
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| 18:02.10 | enouf | benvdh: ok .. unfortuantely, i know nothing about it though .. but the channel does ;-) |
| 18:02.55 | benvdh | enouf: thanks anyway, for mentioning that my question was truncated |
| 18:03.17 | enouf | mrbob009: could use write, instead of wall too |
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| 18:03.38 | Anxiolytic | aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename> runs and tries to reinstall, but my init.d/postfix file is still messed up |
| 18:03.42 | enouf | benvdh: i'm here to help mah brotha :-) |
| 18:04.01 | Anxiolytic | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.03 | Anxiolytic | etc |
| 18:04.17 | enouf | dpkg-reconfigure postfix? |
| 18:04.51 | enouf | Anxiolytic: or rm the file, then do the confmiss thing |
| 18:05.11 | fxiny | Anxiolytic: lenny ? |
| 18:05.20 | enouf | fxiny: yes |
| 18:05.28 | benvdh | In short my question would be: How to install roundcube webmail on debian stable in the safest possible way ? We did once install it ourselves using the package from the official website, but then after a while the page got defaced because of an old exploit |
| 18:05.28 | enouf | Anxiolytic> My /etc/init.d/postfix is mangled in Lenny .... |
| 18:05.41 | fxiny | lenny line 50 reads : log_daemon_msg "Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent" postfix |
| 18:05.44 | Anxiolytic | Removing the file doesn't help |
| 18:06.00 | Anxiolytic | Some user tried to install postfix manually |
| 18:06.08 | enouf | manually?? |
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| 18:06.20 | enouf | dpkg -i? or compiled? |
| 18:06.21 | dpkg | enouf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:06.22 | Anxiolytic | I'm trying to remove it all and start from scratch |
| 18:06.24 | Anxiolytic | compiled |
| 18:06.29 | shyam_k | is there a standard of including menu items on software tarballs? |
| 18:06.42 | Anxiolytic | he probably used some non-debian postfix in init.d |
| 18:06.53 | enouf | shyam_k: what's a hardware tarball? |
| 18:07.19 | fxiny | that explains the wrong line 50 . no commands in line 50 |
| 18:07.25 | enouf | Anxiolytic: you might have MTA conflicts, with exim4 or others ... but not from that error, it would seem |
| 18:07.52 | shyam_k | enouf: it can be a data tarball also right? anyway i got the link http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ and reading.. |
| 18:08.01 | enouf | fxiny: pastebin the entire file? not that it would work with some convoluted setup |
| 18:08.33 | Anxiolytic | I'll try using a pasted file |
| 18:08.46 | Anxiolytic | better than what I'm working with now |
| 18:08.59 | fxiny | enouf: debian postfix works , i think he should install that |
| 18:09.08 | enouf | shyam_k: i thought 'data' could classified as software, i.e; digital bits .. i guess not |
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| 18:09.55 | Anxiolytic | Could somebody post their entire init.d conf for postfix? |
| 18:10.03 | fxiny | gimme a sec |
| 18:10.20 | enouf | Anxiolytic: don't get your panties in a bunch :-P |
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| 18:11.48 | patrikf | Anxiolytic: init.d conf? you mean /etc/default/postfix? I don't have one. |
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| 18:11.57 | Anxiolytic | yes |
| 18:12.04 | Anxiolytic | I mean /etc/init.d/postfix |
| 18:12.21 | fxiny | Anxiolytic: http://paste.debian.net/40831/ |
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| 18:12.28 | patrikf | Anxiolytic: you get that one from the debian package and you're not supposed to edit it. |
| 18:12.38 | Anxiolytic | fxiny: thanks |
| 18:12.45 | fxiny | Anxiolytic: np |
| 18:13.22 | Tapout | will postgresql 8.4 ever make it to Lenny? |
| 18:13.29 | Tapout | or only in sid? |
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| 18:13.52 | patrikf | !tell Tapout about bpo |
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| 18:14.47 | Tapout | man i'm retarded.. I knew about backports, here I was compiling my own backport from sid |
| 18:14.50 | Tapout | thank you. |
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| 18:14.58 | fxiny | enouf: i forgot : what the hell ! USA playing a wonderful old style "catenaccio" soccer strategy :) |
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| 18:15.17 | fxiny | enouf: i really enjoed it , old style catenaccio |
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| 18:16.04 | fxiny | s/strategy/tactics |
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| 18:16.42 | enouf | fxiny: s/war/battles/ :-P |
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| 18:17.44 | fxiny | enouf: heh |
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| 18:19.26 | vasundhar | any one successful in installing Rattle (R-cran) on debian and launch ? for me its complaining libglade being not present even after I installing it |
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| 18:22.57 | carrot | what's the name of the package that enables the mouse cursor in a virtual console? |
| 18:23.04 | Anxiolytic | fxiny: worked perfectly, thanks again! |
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| 18:23.11 | cahoot | gpm? |
| 18:23.14 | carrot | thanks |
| 18:23.25 | fxiny | Anxiolytic: good news :) |
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| 18:30.58 | SeReF | s.a |
| 18:31.12 | SeReF | debian-update-5.0.2-alpha-DVD-1 neroda nasýol yazdýrcam bilgisi olan varmý _? |
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| 18:33.21 | SeReF | yardým edecek kýmse yokmu |
| 18:34.45 | enouf | SeReF: you lost me man |
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| 18:35.10 | adb | SeReF: use english language here |
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| 18:35.32 | enouf | i can't even tell which language that is |
| 18:35.43 | enouf | some slavic? |
| 18:35.48 | adb | !tr |
| 18:35.48 | dpkg | well, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net, or http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~rakewell/z88/keyboards/turkish.jpg |
| 18:36.05 | enouf | that's turkish? ... yikes |
| 18:36.26 | enouf | well .. i was close - geographically :-P |
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| 18:36.37 | abrotman | looks turkish |
| 18:36.59 | enouf | looks like gibberish to me .. but i'm a dumbass american |
| 18:37.24 | eviltux | hi all |
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| 18:39.39 | enouf | adb: you sure it's not bulgarian or beleruse or algerian? |
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| 18:40.26 | abrotman | enouf: based on IP, .tr |
| 18:40.40 | enouf | ahh ... good ol' /whois |
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| 18:41.02 | fxiny | enouf: mama google : "yardým meaning" -> turkish |
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| 18:41.24 | enouf | !babelfishsmite fxiny |
| 18:41.29 | enouf | :-P |
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| 18:42.44 | enouf | fxiny: en.wikipedia.org never shows the diacritics when looking for certain terms :-/ |
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| 18:43.24 | enouf | fxiny: sleeves up! :-) |
| 18:43.36 | enouf | mo' $$$ |
| 18:43.49 | fxiny | enouf: soon streaming :) |
| 18:44.32 | enouf | fxiny: he better not make an appearance ;-) |
| 18:45.24 | fxiny | enouf: yeahhh , he'd better stay away |
| 18:45.27 | enouf | fxiny: i'd much rather see kern devs |
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| 18:45.48 | enouf | fxiny: which continent again this year? |
| 18:46.05 | enouf | next year is here, IIRC |
| 18:46.21 | bike^ | question is, when will the linux kernel come with a bulletin board system =) |
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| 18:46.35 | fxiny | enouf: spain ? payella and sangria , geeks on sangria :P |
| 18:46.51 | enouf | bike^: when you can stop riding a tricycle :-P |
| 18:47.03 | enouf | fxiny: ahh .. yeah |
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| 18:47.10 | bike^ | they wont let me! |
| 18:47.46 | abrotman | !ot |
| 18:47.46 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 18:47.47 | poisonbit | can I purge portmap and nfs if i don't use it? I did a "standard system" selection in tasksel during the install |
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| 18:48.02 | abrotman | poisonbit: yes |
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| 18:48.25 | enouf | bike^: i have to read gmane archives .. lkml.org is so horribly broken .. in all browsers i've ever used - even KonqOut and Iceweasel |
| 18:48.36 | Tapout | http://pastebin.ca/1482188 <-- I'm trying to install postgresql, and am running into problems. I initially had SID's backport installed, and i removed everything I could find. apt-get clean, and it still messes up. Anyone seen this/know how to fix it? |
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| 18:48.50 | fxiny | enouf: he can't fit in the new v.team talk.holograms :P |
| 18:49.10 | fxiny | enouf: becasue of the sleeves :P |
| 18:49.19 | enouf | fxiny: stay away from the magic toads :-P |
| 18:49.58 | enouf | Tapout: how did you "i removed everything I could find" |
| 18:50.01 | enouf | ? |
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| 18:50.12 | Tapout | dpkg --list | grep post ... and then "pg" .. |
| 18:50.12 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Tapout |
| 18:50.13 | abrotman | Tapout: apt-cache policy postgresql |
| 18:50.15 | fxiny | enouf: you mean the red frog ? |
| 18:50.17 | Tapout | aptitude purge ... |
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| 18:50.39 | enouf | fxiny: the ones you find near the well ;-) |
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| 18:51.03 | Tapout | http://pastebin.ca/1482191 <-- apt-cache policy postgresql |
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| 18:51.48 | vasundhar | why from backports ? any specific reason ? |
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| 18:52.12 | Tapout | I want 8.4 |
| 18:52.16 | MrWax | On which port does samba listen?? |
| 18:52.16 | enouf | Tapout: cat /etc/issue.net says? |
| 18:52.18 | MrWax | anybody knows? |
| 18:52.30 | abrotman | Tapout: dpkg --forget-old-unavail ? |
| 18:52.32 | Tapout | Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 |
| 18:52.34 | enouf | MrWax: grep samba /etc/services |
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| 18:52.46 | mmek | does anybody know how i could use debirf to put a customized debian setup into a ramdisk? |
| 18:52.48 | MrWax | enouf: no result |
| 18:53.00 | enouf | hrm ... |
| 18:53.00 | mmek | or would it be easier to take the knoppix tutorial on how to customize a livecd? |
| 18:53.10 | MrWax | enouf: and it is started |
| 18:53.25 | enouf | MrWax: egrep 'portmap|rpc' /etc/services |
| 18:53.52 | enouf | MrWax: then socklist ; netstat -tunap ; lsof -i |
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| 18:54.15 | mmek | or does my question make no sense at all? |
| 18:54.17 | enouf | mmek: /msg dpkg cdd ? |
| 18:54.31 | MrWax | socklist command not found enouf |
| 18:54.57 | mmek | not a custom distribution, just what debirf does but with a custom setup |
| 18:55.34 | dustybin | i know RAID shouldnt be mistaken for backing up, however, does your data have more of a survival rate if its on RAID? |
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| 18:56.14 | xyan | MrWax: 137/138/139 for the netbios crap and 445 for smbd |
| 18:56.22 | xyan | netstat -tn helps all the time ;) |
| 18:56.26 | MrWax | aight xyan :) |
| 18:56.29 | MrWax | hmm |
| 18:56.30 | enouf | mmek: here; http://www.linux-live.org/ and http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/cdrom.htm and http://www.linux4all.de/livecd/barebone/customization-1.1.htm |
| 18:56.33 | MrWax | still not listening |
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| 18:56.48 | xyan | issue a "testparm" to verify your config |
| 18:56.51 | Tapout | abrotman, I ran that.. and still errors, I'm going to try another mirror |
| 18:57.01 | Tapout | perhaps postgresql-8.4 doesn't exist on this mirror |
| 18:57.17 | abrotman | Tapout: apt-cache policy postgresql-8.4 ? |
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| 18:57.39 | enouf | mmek: why reinvent the wheel? it's already reinvented for you |
| 18:57.50 | mmek | enouf: wow, thanks a lot |
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| 18:58.04 | Tapout | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/1482197 |
| 18:58.24 | abrotman | Tapout: awesome .. no candidate |
| 18:58.35 | abrotman | Tapout: just paste `apt-cache policy` |
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| 18:59.45 | Tapout | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/1482198 |
| 18:59.59 | enouf | MrWax: fwiw, and not that it matters; procinfo: /usr/bin/socklist |
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| 19:00.42 | abrotman | Tapout: well .. that solves that .. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=postgresql-8.4 |
| 19:01.01 | Tapout | powerpc??? |
| 19:01.02 | Tapout | wtf |
| 19:01.15 | abrotman | Tapout: don't be jealous |
| 19:01.17 | Tapout | thank you for that |
| 19:01.22 | enouf | dustybin: raid doesn't protect against FS corruption, rm -rf commands, etc etc |
| 19:01.24 | Tapout | what is a powerpc :) .. wtb powerpc, pst |
| 19:01.36 | abrotman | Tapout: like an old PPC mac |
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| 19:01.46 | abrotman | or IBM Power series machines |
| 19:01.51 | Tapout | ah I see |
| 19:02.00 | Tapout | I guess it's back to the sid backport ... :) |
| 19:02.04 | enouf | !listvals oldworld |
| 19:02.06 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'oldworld' by value (5): quik ;; bootx ;; #debianppc ;; debianppc ;; ybin. |
| 19:02.13 | Tapout | it was working an everything, I just thought backports.org would have been nicer |
| 19:02.21 | Tapout | i can't beleive I missed that; thank you abrotman |
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| 19:03.07 | abrotman | heh .. quik |
| 19:03.21 | enouf | !nestlesmite me |
| 19:03.30 | thechef | Where can I find a letter template for open office where the recipients address fits into the window of the envelope (localized to Switzerland)? |
| 19:03.37 | Tapout | without a backport, will postgresql-8.4 ever make it to Lenny? |
| 19:03.47 | Tapout | I'm unsure of the protocol |
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| 19:04.07 | dkr | no |
| 19:04.26 | dkr | only security updates go into stable, not new version upgrades |
| 19:04.30 | abrotman | Tapout: it might as part of lennynhalf .. but seriously doubt it |
| 19:04.32 | enouf | Tapout: Stable (lenny) will only ever see Security updates and major major bug fixes |
| 19:04.43 | abrotman | dkr: wrong, /msg dpkg etchnhalf .. for example |
| 19:05.00 | abrotman | dkr: and still things other than security updates go in |
| 19:05.04 | dkr | volatile? |
| 19:05.04 | enouf | abrotman: stable !=stablenhalf :-P |
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| 19:05.26 | abrotman | for his purposes .. same thing |
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| 19:05.45 | abrotman | Tapout: if you want a bit, that backport might get fixed up to be on i386/amd64/etc |
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| 19:06.21 | enouf | s/want/wait |
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| 19:06.32 | abrotman | uh .. yeah |
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| 19:07.25 | enouf | abrotman: etchnhalf == bad example, only kernel version changed ; etch-backports == better example ;-) |
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| 19:07.38 | abrotman | enouf: and they added Xorg bits |
| 19:07.55 | enouf | to X pkgs? since when? |
| 19:08.04 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf |
| 19:08.10 | enouf | ... |
| 19:08.22 | abrotman | they added the intel driver and updated the nv driver .. wireless-tools |
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| 19:08.30 | enouf | postgresql will surely benefit |
| 19:08.45 | enouf | 14:54 < abrotman> for his purposes .. same thing |
| 19:08.52 | abrotman | it was also the first attempt at the 'nhalf' release .. for lenny, there might be way more ? |
| 19:08.54 | dkr | so *nhalf is for supporting ne whardware. i wouldn't expect that to include db updates |
| 19:09.00 | dkr | right? |
| 19:09.05 | enouf | abrotman: would be nice |
| 19:09.11 | abrotman | dkr: see my comment above |
| 19:09.14 | vasundhar | any one successful in installing Rattle (R-cran) on debian and launch ? for me its complaining libglade being not present even after I installing it |
| 19:09.21 | abrotman | ISTR there was talk about including quite a bit more |
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| 19:11.06 | enouf | abrotman: isn't both the '...nhalf and the '...-backports' now considered "official" ? |
| 19:11.35 | enouf | if so, wouldn't '...backports' suit your argument better? |
| 19:12.05 | enouf | s/isn't/aren't/ |
| 19:12.15 | abrotman | enouf: i'm just saying!! |
| 19:12.25 | enouf | shuts up |
| 19:12.28 | abrotman | enouf: i guess the nhalf is considered more official ? |
| 19:12.32 | abrotman | who knows |
| 19:12.41 | abrotman | just fix my freaking perl .. jeez |
| 19:12.45 | enouf | it was 1st added, yes, AIUI |
| 19:13.03 | azeem | backports haven't been added |
| 19:13.29 | enouf | azeem: really? yet, p.d.o allows for searches? |
| 19:13.48 | enouf | azeem: but not for debian-multimedia ? |
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| 19:14.12 | azeem | well, what do you mean with "added" then? |
| 19:14.28 | azeem | to me sounds like "is on some *.debian.org host" |
| 19:14.40 | azeem | which is the case for nhalf, but not for backports.org or debian-multimedia |
| 19:15.03 | enouf | azeem: IOW, etchnhalf was 1st accepted into "official" prior to any -backports versions |
| 19:15.22 | azeem | what is "official"? |
| 19:15.26 | enouf | ... |
| 19:15.33 | enouf | !official |
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| 19:15.51 | enouf | gives up |
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| 19:16.17 | azeem | to answer in a different way: just because some version is displayed by packages.debian.org search doesn't make that version official |
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| 19:16.33 | mmek | i would say official is covered by the bug tracker, by security updates and worked on by debian developers with a priority equal to the stable release |
| 19:16.54 | enouf | azeem: no, the whole entire [whatever] is searchable .. nothing to do with versions |
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| 19:17.30 | malchias | Is there a way to send encrypted form mail messages so a client can get encrypted emails from a server form? |
| 19:17.41 | enouf | [whatever] == [release/version/blah] |
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| 19:17.48 | mmek | for lenny that seems only to be the case for debian-versatile and the "and-a-half" release |
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| 19:18.41 | enouf | mmek: your second to last comment makes sense, not your last one |
| 19:19.30 | dkr | malchias: yes |
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| 19:19.48 | Craigevil | backports shows up when you do a package search on debian.org, one would assume from that alone that backports is "official" |
| 19:20.08 | abrotman | wonders why Craigevil is now capitalized |
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| 19:20.31 | mmek | enouf: to me it seems like some debian developers put a newer version in the backports repository when they personally need it and when there is some demand for it. but they dont cover security updates, etc. |
| 19:20.33 | Craigevil | no clue i had to redo my iw, accidentally deleted my /home :) |
| 19:20.39 | Alex-Musicman | why I got the error when I trying to setup a ipv6 tunnel? ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::72.52.104.74 |
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| 19:20.42 | Alex-Musicman | inet6: Unknown host [...] |
| 19:21.24 | macrobat | i'd like to add the key for emacs-snapshot. how? |
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| 19:22.05 | mmek | and the counter that example with the search: you can use rpmfind.net to search for all kinds of packages. but they are not officially supported by redhat or any other distributor |
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| 19:22.28 | craigevil | there thats better |
| 19:22.38 | dkr | wow, rpmfind.net I used to use that over a decade ago |
| 19:23.12 | abrotman | mmek: apt-get.org |
| 19:23.20 | mmek | yeah |
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| 19:24.14 | malchias | dkr: is there more to your statement? lol |
| 19:24.51 | dkr | malchias: uhm, use perl. :) |
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| 19:27.23 | dkr | malchias: actually the very first cgi I wrote about 13 years ago did exactly that, encrypted an order from a web form and mailed it to the company. and i did it in C++. I've learned better since then, though. :) |
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| 19:28.09 | harobed | hi, where can I found old debian release ? I need to found debian etch iso... To do some test... |
| 19:28.49 | dkr | harobed: oldstable is the term you want probably |
| 19:29.03 | harobed | dkr: yes |
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| 19:29.12 | harobed | I don't found it on ftp.debian.org |
| 19:29.19 | dkr | !tell harobed about oldstable |
| 19:29.43 | abrotman | !tell harobed about cd archive |
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| 19:30.50 | harobed | ok, I found some information here : http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive.en.html |
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| 19:32.50 | abrotman | !tell harobed about cd archive |
| 19:33.23 | kusok_sna_ | hi, i solved my question, after I typed it down :) |
| 19:33.52 | poisonbit | mmm i'm doing dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg... but my xorg.conf is empty after the debconf screens |
| 19:33.59 | macrobat | i cant add an archive key, it is five lines! |
| 19:34.14 | macrobat | how do i know which part is the key? |
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| 19:36.08 | gaintsura | will a .deb package labeled for ubuntu work on debian lenny? |
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| 19:36.43 | avu | gaintsura, it might. it may also fudge up your system something nasty |
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| 19:36.57 | gaintsura | will build from src then |
| 19:36.58 | mmek | gaintsura: depends what libraries are linked |
| 19:37.00 | avu | gaintsura, it's usually safer to get the source package and build it on debian |
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| 19:37.59 | gaintsura | mmek: its the video app called vuze |
| 19:38.09 | gaintsura | hm.. wait |
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| 19:38.32 | gaintsura | lol nvm, its in the repo |
| 19:38.35 | macrobat | mixing debian&ubuntu http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/04/03/what-happened-to-my-laptop/ |
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| 19:39.10 | gaintsura | just found a nice site for watching full movies, even new ones :D |
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| 19:43.18 | enouf | mmek: i was under the impression that all -backports come with a non-security guarantee :-) (meaning; there's no way that the Security team can possibly keep up with all the newly added backported stuff - after all, it comes from testing (and from unstable) which is why those are not getting security either) |
| 19:43.59 | mmek | enouf: you are right, i completely forgot they come from testing |
| 19:44.27 | enouf | mmek: the targets are fast moving -- too fast in fact |
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| 19:44.51 | mmek | and security for testing means a new package with the fix is uploaded into unstable right? |
| 19:44.54 | kriox | !debian-it |
| 19:44.55 | dpkg | somebody said #debian-it was Ciao! Utilizzi prego #debian-it per aiuto Italiano-orientato. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:50.59 | anigma | how do you delete a group? |
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| 19:51.43 | sylar | say... arent the permissions user:group:others ? |
| 19:51.57 | Alex-Musicman | why I got the error when I trying to setup a ipv6 tunnel? ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::72.52.104.74 |
| 19:51.58 | Alex-Musicman | inet6: Unknown host [...] |
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| 19:52.33 | sylar | I tried making rw in others, and got no permission to write still |
| 19:52.52 | d_b | anigma: you can easily find the answer for that by searching the web |
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| 19:53.19 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
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| 19:53.36 | Ace2017_- | my sudo aptitude update, is hanging, its now outputting any lines, what can i do? |
| 19:54.00 | cahoot | sylar: and it is a fs that knows about perms? |
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| 19:54.28 | sylar | cahoot, yes... seemed to have forgot to put x on the dir though |
| 19:54.28 | adb | anigma: delgroup --help ? |
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| 19:54.49 | sylar | cahoot, strange that it affects writing on it |
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| 19:54.57 | davidef19861 | Alex-Musicman: I use this: ip tunnel add sit0 mode sit remote any local 72.52.104.74 |
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| 19:56.06 | acu | hey guys - I have installed Debian Lenny connected to a 1024-768 resolution monitor - I changed it to a highdef monit 1900 X1085 and I cannot see anytithing except a line - how can I make it work on the new monitor ? |
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| 19:56.44 | lunk | acu: ctrl+alt+'+' and - |
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| 19:57.31 | cahoot | acu: does xrandr -q list any usable resolution? |
| 19:57.33 | lelu | hey guys how would I go about giving group abc r+w permisions to directory /var/cde ? |
| 19:58.10 | acu | cahoot: I cannot get in X I will reboot and try xrandr -q |
| 19:58.43 | cahoot | acu: might even try mv xorg.conf out of the way |
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| 20:01.06 | acu | cahoot: it tells me cannot access display |
| 20:01.37 | cahoot | acu: xrandra needs a unnung xorg |
| 20:01.47 | cahoot | running |
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| 20:02.27 | wildc4rd | is there anything in the way of software to remotely track resource use of a few debian boxes? |
| 20:03.11 | acu | cahoot: so I have to move somewhere else xorg.conf ? - I entered a a single user mode |
| 20:03.12 | Gryfelhase | Hi. Something wired happend..... I installed lenny on a new computer.... first only the standardsystem, then manual Xorg.... |
| 20:03.22 | Gryfelhase | xorg.conf is empty !!1 |
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| 20:03.42 | Gryfelhase | Whats going on there ? |
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| 20:04.03 | acu | I just want to curse - this sucks big time - no wonder why Microsoft will never die |
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| 20:04.08 | cahoot | evolution |
| 20:04.30 | Ace2017_- | Hi all |
| 20:04.51 | Ace2017_- | sudo aptitude update, hangs |
| 20:04.56 | ranix | lol acu |
| 20:05.03 | Ace2017_- | it doesn't produce any output, it goes to the next line but doesn't give a prompt |
| 20:05.25 | ranix | acu: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
| 20:05.47 | ranix | acu: and fix your xorg.conf |
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| 20:06.41 | acu | ranix: I will try it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - but I remember I tried it several times |
| 20:07.06 | ranix | acu: you had it working once, right? |
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| 20:11.33 | dbbolton | are there any qt4 web browsers beside konqueror? |
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| 20:12.14 | acu | ranix: it works on a 17 inch monitor 1024X768 |
| 20:12.26 | justin | dbbolton: arora |
| 20:12.37 | acu | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not work |
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| 20:13.01 | ranix | acu: are you using both monitors at the same time, or are you swapping between |
| 20:13.05 | acu | lately the reconfiguration does not ask you questions as before - the size of the screen resolution etc |
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| 20:13.20 | acu | ranix: I swap them |
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| 20:13.49 | ranix | acu: have you edited your xorg.conf to correct the resolution settings to match your desired settings yet? |
| 20:14.06 | ranix | acu: the dpkg-reconfigure should get you back to a decently normal xorg.conf in case you munged it |
| 20:14.14 | ranix | acu: and then you can edit it by hand as desired |
| 20:14.31 | acu | ranix: I know - but the later xorg.conf is different than it used to be |
| 20:14.36 | acu | I will try again |
| 20:14.40 | acu | is it in etc? |
| 20:14.52 | ranix | /etc/X11/xorg.conf usually |
| 20:15.09 | acu | K |
| 20:15.14 | ranix | you think that's bad, you should have seen me after Xfree86->X.org |
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| 20:17.25 | acu | ranix: it is absolutely ridiculous that in 2009 there is no easier way to fix a Desktop feature so I can change resolution without geeky f*** up wooolooo boolooo - I think the Debian Desktop is really in shamble and new approach should be taken - the leader should not be a programer but a simple user |
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| 20:18.01 | cahoot | acu: modern xorg autoconfigs |
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| 20:18.03 | cahoot | ime |
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| 20:19.02 | ranix | acu: I think it is absolutely ridiculous that someone would want to take the simplest approach to confiiguration - the documented conf file - and rape it into an almost-WYSIWIG, click-and-pray monstrosity like Windows has. |
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| 20:19.20 | ranix | acu: suck it up and edit the conf file |
| 20:20.06 | jvdm | acu: conf files helps improve your karma and mind. try it. |
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| 20:21.29 | jvdm | acu: unless you just care for your feature working. |
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| 20:24.57 | acu | jvdm: Debian Desktop is IMPOSSIBLE - it is my missfortune to love the imposible but it gets to me - I need to do work not loose time anytime I need to change something what was solved 10 years ago :( |
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| 20:25.29 | nike | My Iceweasel cannot seem to access web pages, and I think it is missing some library needed to use the net |
| 20:25.31 | bookmark | what up mang |
| 20:25.45 | acu | ranix: people have work to do beside playing |
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| 20:26.35 | acu | nike: you sound too smart than you may be |
| 20:27.01 | acu | is other webroser working Konqueror |
| 20:27.23 | acu | can you ping other servers ping microsoft.com ? |
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| 20:28.19 | bookmark | i tried a genisoimage command that used to work (i think) and it doesn't want to |
| 20:28.27 | bookmark | does anyone know the command to make it work? |
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| 20:28.38 | justin | acu: what kind of messed up display do you have anyway? |
| 20:28.53 | johndoe | guys, do you know of any channel that gives hardware support? so i could ask questions about buying a new computer |
| 20:28.56 | acu | justin: saint justin :) |
| 20:29.09 | justin | acu: you didn't by any chance try to hotswap the monitor did you? |
| 20:29.10 | adb | bookmark: always on ubuntu ? |
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| 20:29.45 | barmagnet | any good software in Debian to read aloud TXT files? |
| 20:30.15 | devurandom | Hi. |
| 20:30.16 | d_b | barmagnet: I think there's something called Orca |
| 20:30.21 | adb | johndoe: #hardware ? |
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| 20:30.30 | magyar_ | hi, where would i be able to get kernel 2.6.29 that was in sid a few weeks ago? |
| 20:30.35 | johndoe | adb: thanks, just what i was looking for =) |
| 20:30.49 | acu | justin: I have a lenny workstation - and used to hook it to a 1024X768 monitor and it works fine - however if I hook it to a higher def monit it does not show except a small line across the screen - I booted as single user and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and other mantras and curses - but it sucks - I might need to reinstall it since I do not know how to fix it and I am sure if I install from scratch it will work |
| 20:30.50 | cahoot | barmagnet: look at festival |
| 20:31.02 | barmagnet | gnome-orca seems to be installed on my system. how do I launch it? |
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| 20:31.24 | justin | acu: I forget if lenny has teh new X auto config stuff, did you try moving the xorg.conf to /tmp/ and restarting X? |
| 20:31.25 | acu | barmagnet: just go to a console and type gnome-orga |
| 20:31.49 | barmagnet | bash: gnome-orca: command not found |
| 20:31.51 | acu | justin: I think I tried = but I will do it right now |
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| 20:32.13 | barmagnet | oh, it's just orca |
| 20:32.33 | nike | acu: I can access the internet just fine |
| 20:32.40 | cahoot | barmagnet: aptitude show festival |
| 20:32.57 | nike | This is an Iceweasel-specific problem |
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| 20:33.25 | bookmark | but can you go to the disco |
| 20:34.28 | alecs1 | hi, "aptitude upgrade" stopped postgres 8.3 and left me without amarok running; |
| 20:34.45 | alecs1 | is there any Debian way of doing it, or I need to reinstall 8.3 and perform an upgrade by hand (reading tutorials) |
| 20:35.12 | justin | alecs1: a debian way of doing _what_? |
| 20:35.32 | alecs1 | (tutorial is a bit too much for two-three command, but you get it) |
| 20:35.39 | alecs1 | well, of making amarok working |
| 20:35.46 | devurandom | I bet I am the 1001 to ask, but how do I enable sid/unstable on testing/squeeze for just one package? |
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| 20:35.48 | alecs1 | I guess that means moving the database |
| 20:36.15 | alecs1 | I believed aptitude would do it automatically :) |
| 20:36.21 | justin | alecs1: what is 'it' ? |
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| 20:36.54 | alecs1 | I repeat, it = "I guess that means moving the database" |
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| 20:37.03 | alecs1 | I'm not database guy, it's just a guess |
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| 20:37.28 | justin | alecs1: I don't think anyone here has any idea what you are talking about |
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| 20:37.56 | alecs1 | ok, I'll detail then |
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| 20:39.47 | alecs1 | Amarok 1.4.x uses a postgres database; yesterday I did "aptitude full-upgrade" which upgraded postgresql from 8.3 to 8.4 |
| 20:39.53 | justin | OH! |
| 20:39.56 | alecs1 | now, amarok does not function anymore |
| 20:40.17 | justin | use pg_upgradecluster |
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| 20:40.34 | Cynner | Download new music, films, games and lot of more, check it - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844 |
| 20:40.35 | devurandom | Is there a lightweigt browser available in Debian Squeeze? FF is incredibly slow. |
| 20:40.54 | justin | 'pg_upgradecluster 8.3 main' will likely do it |
| 20:40.56 | alecs1 | I tried "pg_upgradecluster 8.3 main" |
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| 20:41.13 | justin | well if you already tried that why didn't you say so! |
| 20:41.19 | alecs1 | but that says it's not running; |
| 20:41.28 | alecs1 | should I install back 8.3... |
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| 20:41.54 | justin | alecs1: yeah, you need 8.3 still running |
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| 20:44.03 | alecs1 | ah, I'm doing it now; this also means fixing the apt cache problems introduced these days :) |
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| 20:45.07 | marsje | In my /proc/mdstat I see this: md1 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sda2[0] |
| 20:45.17 | marsje | how come it's on auto-read-only? |
| 20:45.19 | henux | how can i regenerate /etc/motd from motd.tail without a reboot? |
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| 20:45.34 | henux | /etc/init.d/bootmisch.sh ? |
| 20:45.34 | marsje | I do have disk problems (bad sectors) |
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| 20:46.57 | bookmark | there we go haha |
| 20:47.07 | marsje | Also, I wonder what happens to LVM when there are problems in the underlying RAID partitions.... |
| 20:47.19 | justin | marsje: you're also missing the other drive |
| 20:47.24 | justin | you should have like sda2[0] sdb2[1] |
| 20:47.27 | alecs1 | that was easy; i put a big number in apt.conf :) thanks justin |
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| 20:47.44 | marsje | justin: yes, true, but this was planned :) |
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| 20:48.08 | marsje | justin: I removed one drive to run a surface scan in another computer |
| 20:48.13 | justin | marsje: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mdadm-devel/2008-February/002071.html |
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| 20:48.24 | justin | marsje: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2007-11/msg00009.html |
| 20:48.39 | marsje | has a RAID1 array with 2 failing drives (out of 2).. how lucky |
| 20:49.06 | marsje | justin: so it means there is not written to it... interesting |
| 20:49.35 | marsje | justin: LVM makes things untransparent... |
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| 20:50.06 | meder | stupid question, but does anyone use any kind of port scanner or antivirus |
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| 20:50.10 | meder | i'm just curious |
| 20:50.31 | marsje | meder: port scanners and anti virus are different things |
| 20:50.46 | meder | marsje: I know |
| 20:50.48 | meder | well |
| 20:50.49 | henux | i ran /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh to re-generate /etc/motd from motd.tail without a reboot, and then when trying to login to it gain via ssh, i got warnigns about remote host identification changing and possibly dns spoofing is taking place. is this something to be worried about or is it just because i ran /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ? |
| 20:50.54 | wam | Hi, my ISCSI luns are named like "/dev/iscsi_lun130" in my system. How can I set the IO Scheduler for that? /sys/block has no iscsi_lun130. |
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| 20:51.09 | meder | marsje: do you use an AV or anything? |
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| 20:51.13 | meder | forget i mentioned port sniffer |
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| 20:51.39 | devurandom | I wanted to try Midori, but that is only available in Sid/Unstable. And since I have no clue how I enable Sid only for that one package, I'd like to know whether there are any other lightweight and fast browsers available in Squeeze. |
| 20:51.41 | marsje | meder: yes, I think I have CLamAV running.... |
| 20:52.08 | bookmark | you could only run stable packages |
| 20:52.17 | bookmark | that is a pretty virus free way to go |
| 20:52.19 | marsje | meder: also I run Snort as intrusian detection system |
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| 20:54.52 | Zed1 | I've set up a private repository with apt-ftparchive generate and apt-ftparchive release, signed the release file, added the key onto the host in question with apt-key, and the signatures appear to verify, but I'm still getting "The following packages cannot be authenticated" errors. What's the most likely thing I've missed? |
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| 20:55.03 | justin | wam: what does ls -l /dev/iscsi_lun130 look like? is it a symlink or a device? |
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| 20:55.15 | justin | Zed1: apt-get update ? |
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| 20:55.24 | wam | Jussi: a device |
| 20:55.28 | wam | justin: a device |
| 20:55.29 | Zed1 | Done that. No errors. |
| 20:55.42 | BCM43 | is there a way to check a ntfs file system for errors? I have a hard drive for a windows computer that copies to my hard drive for a bit before freezing up. |
| 20:55.50 | wam | justin: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 32 2009-01-19 18:28 /dev/iscsi_lun130 |
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| 20:56.06 | Garp | Hi. |
| 20:56.19 | Zed1 | It's finding the Release.gpg file, too, I can see it being pulled down. |
| 20:56.34 | justin | wam: grep 8:32 /sys/block/*dev might work |
| 20:56.41 | justin | there is probably a better way though |
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| 20:57.30 | wam | justin: /sys/block# ls; fd0 ram0 ram1 ram10 ram11 ram12 ram13 ram14 ram15 ram2 ram3 ram4 ram5 ram6 ram7 ram8 ram9 sda sdb sdc sdd sde sdf |
| 20:57.40 | justin | wam: er /*/dev |
| 20:57.43 | wam | aj |
| 20:58.16 | wam | justin: cool - found sdc. So that's my hit? |
| 20:58.36 | justin | wam: i guess? dmesg should be able to confirm that |
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| 20:58.44 | wam | justin: thanks ;) |
| 20:58.48 | justin | wam: or maybe your iscsi client? |
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| 20:58.57 | wam | justin: that's what I need. |
| 20:59.00 | Fabrizzio | Hola ? |
| 20:59.01 | dustybin | if i bought a quadcore cpu for my server, and my server runs a lot of servers, like apache, ssh, postfix, etc, will all those applications make use of my quadcore cpu cores? |
| 20:59.02 | Fabrizzio | español ? |
| 20:59.08 | Fabrizzio | alguien habla español :S :? |
| 20:59.11 | Ace2017_- | i found the solution, ia32-apt-get stopped aptitude from doing anything |
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| 20:59.25 | justin | dustybin: yes |
| 20:59.30 | dustybin | justin: serious? |
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| 20:59.48 | justin | dustybin: apache,ssh, and postfix are all multi process |
| 20:59.53 | dustybin | ace :D |
| 20:59.59 | Ace2017_- | dustybin: yea? |
| 21:00.10 | dustybin | are most applications these days multi process? |
| 21:00.15 | justin | postfix might be less so, not sure, but apache can use many processes, and ssh uses one process per user |
| 21:00.16 | Ace2017_- | no |
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| 21:00.27 | dustybin | ok |
| 21:00.28 | Zed1 | Bah, never mind, I finally found it. Permissions error on *Release*, not Release.gpg, so the Release file itself wasn't being pulled since the last change. |
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| 21:04.37 | kinneh | hi all, udev question, I've changed the udev conf but the /dev/bus/usb/xxx/yyy file is not created with my options (groupwriteable by plugdev) but there is a file in (ex /dev/usbdev7.64_ep00) with that permissions/group but no program uses that file, any ideas ? |
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| 21:06.12 | adb | kinneh: what trying to do? |
| 21:06.29 | kinneh | use a usb camera with gphoto2 |
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| 21:07.19 | kinneh | if I do gphoto2-l as root it's ok or even sudo chmod 666 <file> but thats a really cumbersome way to work :-/ |
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| 21:08.37 | Mordbrann | !dutch |
| 21:08.37 | dpkg | i guess dutch is soome straangje laanguaage daat sussudio kjeeps spjeeaaking, or #debian-nl |
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| 21:09.32 | _abc_ | hi all |
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| 21:09.36 | adb | kinneh: grep plugdev /etc/group , says ? |
| 21:09.39 | nmspc | Hi, do you like mono? |
| 21:09.58 | _abc_ | has anyone got a canon pixma ip2200 or ip6000 running ? i would like to have a quick yes/no reality check before i buy it |
| 21:10.05 | cmyers_work | I like the things you to to get mono, but nobody likes being sick for 2 weeks. |
| 21:10.05 | nmspc | Do you like mono? |
| 21:10.27 | _abc_ | cmyers_work: how do you mean ? |
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| 21:10.57 | nmspc | you don't like English, huh? |
| 21:11.14 | cmyers_work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis |
| 21:11.18 | adb | dpkg: telln mspc about ask |
| 21:11.23 | adb | dpkg: tell mspc about ask |
| 21:11.42 | cmyers_work | ^^ feeble attempt at humor |
| 21:11.57 | nmspc | I gotta a betta humor for a guy who likes mono, if any |
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| 21:12.23 | adb | dpkg: tell nmspc about ask |
| 21:13.06 | nmspc | adb: Roses are red, violets are blue, you're a split-clit douche spigot. |
| 21:13.17 | gaintsura | .... |
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| 21:16.30 | dustybin | is it possible to use linux RAID together with LVM for partitioning? |
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| 21:19.25 | Duke_ | hello? |
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| 21:19.59 | arcsky | anyone know a nice simple snmp and mrtg howto? |
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| 21:22.08 | DetroitLibertyPe | !Chuck Norris |
| 21:22.08 | dpkg | chuck norris is, like, ROUNDHOUSE KICK!, or known to donate blood frequently. Just not his own. |
| 21:22.33 | DetroitLibertyPe | !snmp |
| 21:22.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, snmp is the Stupid Network Mangling Protocol. or really the Simple Network Management Protocol |
| 21:22.48 | DetroitLibertyPe | !mrtg |
| 21:22.48 | dpkg | hmm... mrtg is old, use <rrdtool> instead. Check out http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html and RRDTOOL is at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ |
| 21:23.13 | DetroitLibertyPe | hello Duke_ |
| 21:23.29 | Duke_ | sorry for this |
| 21:23.48 | Duke_ | how to register my nick to entrer in debian br channel? |
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| 21:24.02 | Duke_ | *enter |
| 21:24.35 | Duke_ | i want support for br desktop |
| 21:25.54 | Duke_ | alguém aqui fala em português? |
| 21:26.35 | DetroitLibertyPe | !br |
| 21:26.35 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 21:27.44 | kinneh | abd: plugdev:x:46:han |
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| 21:32.33 | kinneh | adb: plugdev:x:46:han |
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| 21:33.27 | adb | so user han can access that cam |
| 21:33.43 | adb | right ? |
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| 21:35.17 | kinneh | nope |
| 21:35.45 | kinneh | the /dev/bus/usb/xxx/yyy file got root.root perms |
| 21:35.50 | adb | logout/log in may resolve that |
| 21:35.55 | kinneh | not the ones I set |
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| 21:36.06 | kinneh | well rebooted even |
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| 21:36.19 | kinneh | is hal involed here? |
| 21:36.35 | adb | kinneh: sure |
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| 21:37.20 | kinneh | anything might be missing there, taht makes the changes in the conf not take effect on /dev/bus/.... |
| 21:37.30 | adb | kinneh: you don't want user access ? |
| 21:37.40 | kinneh | yes i do |
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| 21:38.11 | adb | so put original conf back |
| 21:38.28 | kinneh | it's still root.root then |
| 21:38.35 | kinneh | no plugdev |
| 21:38.37 | adb | forget that |
| 21:38.46 | kinneh | hu? |
| 21:39.10 | kinneh | the file was owned by root.root from the beginning |
| 21:39.14 | molnarp | Hi! I'm using Lenny, fresh install, with ALSA sound system, but I can't get dmix working. According to the ALSA wiki, since 1.0.9 dmixing is enabled by default. I have 1.0.17 in Lenny, however, I can't get two applications to play sound simultaneously. |
| 21:39.32 | molnarp | Anyone cold please help me? |
| 21:39.57 | kinneh | and 664 rights, when I strace gphoto2 -l it says permission denied on /dev/bus/xxx/yyy |
| 21:39.58 | adb | kinneh: that's normal , here is ls -al /dev/bus/usb/001/001 > crw-rw-r-- 1 root root |
| 21:40.11 | kinneh | so can you use that then ? |
| 21:40.16 | adb | sure |
| 21:40.24 | kinneh | ok I cant |
| 21:41.33 | adb | try to do a right configure for gphoto2 |
| 21:41.44 | kinneh | This line "ATTRS{idVendor}=="04a9", ATTRS{idProduct}=="3110", MODE="0664", GROUP="plugdev"" in /etc/udev/rules.d$ 025_libgphoto2.rules is not adhered to |
| 21:42.04 | kinneh | "right" ? |
| 21:42.17 | adb | correct |
| 21:42.27 | kinneh | well gphoto has no conifg |
| 21:42.53 | adb | i doubt that |
| 21:43.08 | kinneh | well ok |
| 21:43.30 | kinneh | we're not getting anywhere here |
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| 21:46.23 | j0nr | evening, can anyone help me with the correct syntax for rdiff-backup, remote source to local dir, using a NON-standard port please? I know I should be using --remote-schema, but can't quite get it right |
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| 21:53.32 | Hellscream | debian |
| 21:54.03 | Mordbrann | Lenny |
| 21:54.09 | mezod | etch |
| 21:54.26 | Hellscream | Rox |
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| 22:06.21 | aaron_ | hey can someone help me on how to solve this problem that I'm getting every time i'm installing an application I'm getting this error /usr/bin/mandb: can't write to /var/cache/man/21456: No space left on device |
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| 22:06.57 | dondelelcaro | aaron_: get more space on /var |
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| 22:07.08 | aaron_ | how can i give more space? |
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| 22:07.16 | dondelelcaro | aaron_: runing something like apt-get autoclean; would be a reasonable first step. |
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| 22:08.39 | anigma | how do you start pure-ftpd? |
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| 22:09.08 | kaktycenok | hello! |
| 22:09.38 | anigma | !pure-ftpd |
| 22:09.38 | dpkg | Pure-FTPd is a free (BSD), secure, production-quality and standard-conformant FTP server based upon Troll-FTPd, packaged for Debian. http://www.pureftpd.org/ ##pureftpd on irc.freenode.net. See also <ftpd>. |
| 22:09.57 | kaktycenok | Can you help me, please! How to automatically delete the default route at boot? |
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| 22:10.15 | kaktycenok | Now I did it by "route del default" |
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| 22:13.26 | kaktycenok | can I automatically delete default route? |
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| 22:19.42 | songer | hello people |
| 22:19.52 | songer | I need help |
| 22:20.32 | amphi | !tell songer -about ask |
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| 22:21.19 | aaron__ | !ops MikalenjeLo is a spamemr |
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| 22:21.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: aaron__ complains about: MikalenjeLo is a spamemr |
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| 22:25.10 | stew | aaron__: thanks |
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| 22:25.21 | aaron__ | np |
| 22:25.49 | bcl | Anyone here have experience with nut & usb UPSs? (nut is network UPS tools) |
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| 22:26.04 | songer | I need to update ti sid but i did gedit /etc/opt/sources.list and I got white window |
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| 22:27.12 | adb | dpkg: tell songer about bpo |
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| 22:27.49 | adb | dpkg: tell songer about ssb |
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| 22:30.50 | songer | I got sources.list clean |
| 22:31.53 | Kazuha | Off topic, but _coredump_'s quit message is funny. |
| 22:32.31 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:32.39 | intx | anyone here have a netbook that they've hooked up to an external monitor? |
| 22:32.46 | adb | songer: ^^ |
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| 22:33.58 | dustybin | is it worth doing a RAID-1 mirror on the OS drive on a server? |
| 22:35.09 | adb | dpkg: tell songer about sources.list |
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| 22:38.58 | amphi | intx: what is your real question? ;) |
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| 22:39.48 | CcSsNET | dustybin thats a scenario that always requires some hackish work to boot |
| 22:39.53 | CcSsNET | especially windows |
| 22:39.58 | songer | ok |
| 22:40.10 | dustybin | CcSsNET: debian lenny not windows |
| 22:40.18 | CcSsNET | but on linux its still effort |
| 22:40.22 | CcSsNET | just not as much |
| 22:40.23 | dustybin | eeek |
| 22:40.34 | dustybin | is it worth doing raid-1 on a OS disk? |
| 22:40.49 | mesa_booger | dustybin: worth it ? it's obligatory |
| 22:40.53 | CcSsNET | u have to have a boot device and most hardware raids cant boot a raid |
| 22:40.58 | CcSsNET | that ive seen |
| 22:41.08 | dustybin | CcSsNET: i want to use linux raid |
| 22:41.20 | bcl | How do I get udev to reload its rules? |
| 22:41.32 | CcSsNET | u still have to have /boot not in the raid |
| 22:41.38 | kaktycenok | what about deleting defaul route? |
| 22:41.43 | dustybin | i will have a look for a howto |
| 22:41.52 | CcSsNET | that was the howto |
| 22:41.54 | CcSsNET | 1 step |
| 22:41.56 | dustybin | aye ok |
| 22:42.01 | CcSsNET | install to mbr |
| 22:42.03 | dustybin | doesnt matter if /boot is not in the array |
| 22:42.05 | CcSsNET | grub/lilo |
| 22:42.08 | dustybin | ok |
| 22:42.27 | bcl | n/m udevcontrol reload_rules |
| 22:42.45 | CcSsNET | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.41 | dustybin | I would like to use linux RAID-1 + LVM to partition |
| 22:43.47 | dustybin | the OS disks |
| 22:43.52 | intx | amphi: i'm trying to find a netbook's vga that works in debian, that doesn't do this http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4362/simulatedbadvgav.png |
| 22:44.04 | CcSsNET | why lvm? |
| 22:44.11 | CcSsNET | no point in my opinion |
| 22:44.15 | dustybin | CcSsNET: incase i need to resize stuff |
| 22:44.23 | CcSsNET | meh |
| 22:44.25 | mgolisch | flexibility i guess |
| 22:44.26 | mgolisch | :) |
| 22:44.31 | CcSsNET | it does load some more processes |
| 22:44.35 | mgolisch | oh and it does snapshots |
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| 22:44.39 | mgolisch | thats usefull for backups |
| 22:44.41 | mgolisch | :) |
| 22:44.45 | amphi | intx: strange - is that an intel card? |
| 22:44.45 | type64 | intx: so there are problems with netbooks and debian? |
| 22:44.52 | CcSsNET | so is the new filesystem in 2.6.30 |
| 22:45.00 | mgolisch | what filesystem? |
| 22:45.00 | dustybin | CcSsNET: it is important to partition the OS |
| 22:45.00 | CcSsNET | that auto does versioning |
| 22:45.09 | CcSsNET | so no point in snapshots anymore |
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| 22:45.16 | intx | type64: if you try to run one without using the latest drivers available, yeah |
| 22:45.17 | dustybin | CcSsNET: what happens if /var/log gets too full? |
| 22:45.23 | mgolisch | why not? |
| 22:45.24 | intx | it won't work out of the box |
| 22:45.34 | CcSsNET | what happens is admin gets fired for being slow dustybin |
| 22:45.38 | amphi | intx: what card is that? |
| 22:45.41 | mgolisch | i wonder how well that works with high load databases |
| 22:45.42 | intx | amphi: it uses an intel chipset, but i think it's the motherboard design that affects it |
| 22:45.43 | dustybin | LOL |
| 22:45.48 | mgolisch | or other stuff that changes files alot |
| 22:45.49 | mgolisch | :) |
| 22:45.57 | mgolisch | probably not so good |
| 22:45.59 | intx | amphi: i know the asus eee, which uses the GMA950, works fine, but the acer aspire one, which uses the GMA950, creates that effect |
| 22:46.15 | intx | i have no idea why |
| 22:46.28 | intx | i'm just trying to find out what my other options are besides the eee |
| 22:46.48 | amphi | nor I - I've seen the eee work ok with an external monitor |
| 22:46.52 | CcSsNET | mgolisch kernel.org check the change log. theres 2 new file systems added to the kernel |
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| 22:46.58 | intx | i'm interested in a hp 2133, because of how solid it's built, or the new hp netbook, but i fear getting one with the same problem |
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| 22:47.09 | CcSsNET | 1 does auto file versioning or something i heard like that |
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| 22:47.16 | intx | but i'd also take a msi or anything that doesn't have that problem |
| 22:47.16 | mgolisch | still waiting for oracles thing, hopefully they will deliver something useable soon |
| 22:47.19 | mgolisch | :) |
| 22:47.24 | adb | intx: try to ask in #hardware |
| 22:47.42 | amphi | intx: get an X60/61 thinkpad ;) |
| 22:48.19 | intx | i did :P a guy with a thinkpad t20 responded to my netbook question, and said my hardware must be damaged for it to have a crappy output like that |
| 22:48.33 | intx | i considered that, but i tried another aspire one and it had the same problem |
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| 22:49.24 | intx | what i'm really looking for, is just a small, cheap notebook with the ability to hook up to a 20" lcd with acceptable image quality |
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| 22:50.34 | intx | was just wondering if someone had it setup nicely :) |
| 22:50.39 | faffi | Is there a command to find out what process is using a file or device |
| 22:50.48 | intx | any ideas where I can ask besides #hardware? |
| 22:51.24 | adb | google , forums ... |
| 22:51.37 | rudi_s | faffi: lsof |
| 22:51.48 | pipeline | intx: *any* notebook with a vga output is going to handle an external 20" |
| 22:51.48 | craigevil | intx: eeepcs work just fine using external monitor |
| 22:51.58 | mesa_booger | faffi: yeah lsof or fuser -v |
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| 22:52.45 | faffi | ok, thanks guys :) im having a hell of time getting my sound working in vmware |
| 22:52.48 | intx | pipeline: but clearly? or without this blurry effect? http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4362/simulatedbadvgav.png |
| 22:53.04 | intx | i hate how specs never list details like that |
| 22:53.09 | intx | or rarely |
| 22:53.17 | intx | if notebooks said 400mhz ramdac vga port, it'd make it so much easier |
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| 22:55.45 | bookmark | hiya |
| 22:55.59 | bookmark | can anyone tell me... does apt do a checksum or anything ? |
| 22:56.14 | pipeline | intx: the RAMDAC just defines the upper limit on resolution, it has nothing to do with signal quality |
| 22:56.44 | intx | i dunno, usually a high mhz ramdac seems to produce a good signal |
| 22:56.54 | pipeline | intx: in this day and age, the RAMDAC is never the weak point in your graphics. El cheapo units can typically max out a VGA or single-link DVI, even with blanking. |
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| 22:57.08 | pipeline | intx: that is because more expensive boards tend to have more elaborate signal output machinery, not because the RAMDAC is faster. |
| 22:57.13 | intx | what determines signal quality? |
| 22:57.27 | pipeline | intx: it's mostly in cable quality and the A to D conversion inside your display. |
| 22:57.41 | pipeline | intx: what trash your graphics card outputs is pretty routinely #3. |
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| 22:57.54 | daishadar | is there a way to list all packages that have holds on them? |
| 22:58.03 | pipeline | intx: my work notebook was a $700 piece of shit, and it outputs 1920x1200 no problem on VGA. I get ghosting if I bend the cable, but assuming there's no kinking, everything is gravy. |
| 22:58.06 | intx | my issue is #3 |
| 22:58.17 | intx | at least with the aspire one |
| 22:58.17 | pipeline | daishadar: dpkg --get-selections |
| 22:58.24 | pipeline | intx: then return it, it's clearly defective. |
| 22:58.26 | intx | i've tried multiple cables, multiple monitors, same effect |
| 22:58.36 | intx | well it's not unless every aspire one is defective |
| 22:58.48 | intx | i've tried a few other ones and they all exhibited the same problem.. try an eee, and it's instantly gone |
| 22:58.54 | daishadar | pipeline: oh, and i should grep that output? |
| 22:58.57 | intx | *the eee 1000he |
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| 23:01.08 | tCzern | hi there, I configured some keys on my keyboard to control sound volume. When I use them I have a Volume Icon on the screen, but it controls the wrong line of my soundcard. Can I change this somehow? |
| 23:01.13 | pipeline | daishadar: yup. |
| 23:01.31 | pipeline | intx: shocking. Taiwanese OEM product sub-par. Film at eleven. |
| 23:01.52 | pipeline | intx: good to know shipping defective product is considered routine |
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| 23:03.29 | adb | daishadar: dpkg --get-selections > fileX , than cat fileX |
| 23:04.21 | Hellscream | me troll |
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| 23:05.05 | tCzern | heeellooo, is this not possible? |
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| 23:10.21 | intx | pipeline: problem is, what netbook isn't an taiwanese OEM product? |
| 23:11.33 | adb | intx: try #debian-offtopic |
| 23:12.44 | tCzern | I feel ignored |
| 23:13.46 | beardy | A common feeling. |
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| 23:13.55 | Duke_ | hello people |
| 23:14.43 | adb | tCzern: no , but do it as you have done it for other keys |
| 23:15.01 | tCzern | I wish this would work |
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| 23:15.34 | tCzern | well, it seems to work, but it targets a channel in my mixer which is not my main volume control |
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| 23:16.11 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 23:17.54 | superlinux | someone I know wants to install debian on an intel with EM64T. which CD's he should download? amd64 or ia64? |
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| 23:18.41 | amphi | superlinux: amd64 |
| 23:18.50 | amphi | superlinux: ia64 is for itanium |
| 23:19.23 | amphi | !tell superlinux -about netinstall |
| 23:19.30 | superlinux | ok |
| 23:19.33 | superlinux | thanks |
| 23:19.49 | dondelelcaro | generally if you paid less than about 4K for your machine, it can't possible be IA64. ;-) |
| 23:19.50 | superlinux | i guessed it must be amd64 |
| 23:19.59 | dondelelcaro | s/ble/bly/ |
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| 23:22.08 | mavhc | the only IA64 machines still in use are the ones compiling software for IA64 |
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| 23:23.36 | dondelelcaro | nah, they are still making new ones |
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| 23:25.16 | aaron__ | dondelelcaro, how may i fix my partition? |
| 23:25.38 | aaron__ | to make it bigger |
| 23:26.34 | dondelelcaro | aaron__: depends on the partition and filesystem; generally use use GNU parted + resizefs |
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| 23:27.04 | aaron__ | dondelelcaro,? |
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| 23:28.29 | aaron__ | I'm getting this error There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/n5tr1uHe.part. |
| 23:28.29 | aaron__ | Remove unnecessary files from the disk and try again, or try saving in a different location |
| 23:28.39 | aaron__ | that's iceweasel |
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| 23:32.30 | adb | aaron_: df -h | grep 100 |
| 23:33.06 | aaron__ | overflow 1.0M 1.0M 0 100% /tmp |
| 23:33.09 | daishadar | 'aptitude hold' doesn't seem to be holding back packages... dpkg --get-selections doesn't make the package as held, and apt-get upgrade upgrades it... can anyone tell me what's up? |
| 23:33.24 | daishadar | (make == mark) |
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| 23:34.15 | adb | aaron_: try reboot .. |
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| 23:39.21 | edwin_quijada | can u recommend me graphic enviroment |
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| 23:39.31 | Kazuha | wonders why a mounted iso would show up as being /dev/loop0 (as the device point). |
| 23:39.35 | edwin_quijada | I never have used one in linux |
| 23:39.49 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: gimp |
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| 23:40.14 | Kazuha | I think edwin_quijada meant GUI. |
| 23:40.32 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: lxde |
| 23:40.33 | edwin_quijada | yes, GUI, ths |
| 23:40.33 | Kazuha | Most like either KDE or Gnome -- some prefer others like FVWM. |
| 23:40.48 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: xfce4 |
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| 23:41.02 | edwin_quijada | lxde or xfc4 |
| 23:41.22 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: there's lots - depends on wha tyou want it tto do |
| 23:41.30 | edwin_quijada | i always prefer 80x25 console |
| 23:41.46 | Kazuha | A CLI fan, I see. |
| 23:41.55 | edwin_quijada | but now I need one |
| 23:42.06 | adb | edwin_quijada: fvwm icewm jwm |
| 23:42.10 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: what you need a gui for? |
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| 23:42.44 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: if you're experienced - try icewm |
| 23:42.44 | edwin_quijada | jpinx: My job, presentattions, Lazarus so nice and cute |
| 23:43.05 | edwin_quijada | I need to show this GUI for everyone |
| 23:43.31 | edwin_quijada | I have experienced but in console using GUI I am a newbie |
| 23:43.35 | Kazuha | Well, what sort of performance does the system have? |
| 23:44.04 | edwin_quijada | Dell, Vostro Core2Duo, 1GB ram, 120Gb HD |
| 23:44.12 | Kazuha | A low performance system benefits from minimalistic GUIs like FVWM. |
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| 23:44.30 | Kazuha | But it seems like yours would probably be able to take KDE/GNOME well. |
| 23:44.56 | edwin_quijada | really, i dont know much about this |
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| 23:45.09 | Kazuha | What I'd do (and have done), is install all or most of them, that don't conflict, try them out. And then see what works best for you. |
| 23:45.18 | Kazuha | That's what's most important. |
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| 23:45.59 | ajavid | how do you work on 80x25 |
| 23:46.07 | ajavid | its like using 640x480 fulltime |
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| 23:46.28 | diegoviola | hello i get these messages on my system: http://pastie.org/532702 |
| 23:46.30 | diegoviola | how can i fix it? |
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| 23:47.21 | ajavid | diegoviola, try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 23:47.34 | ajavid | ie you may have to install the 'locales package' i fyou don't have it |
| 23:47.36 | ajavid | !locales |
| 23:47.36 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command; ask me about <localised errors> |
| 23:47.52 | User8022 | hello. I'm trying to install from a USB key and i can get the installer to boot off the key, but it won't install. I put another key in the other usb port, mounted it, but still doesn't install. Any ideas? |
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| 23:48.13 | diegoviola | ajavid: http://pastie.org/532704 |
| 23:48.17 | ajavid | User8022, at which step does it fail? findint/mounting the iso? |
| 23:48.21 | diegoviola | ajavid: thanks |
| 23:48.31 | User8022 | ajavid |
| 23:48.40 | ajavid | diegoviola, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is not installed |
| 23:48.42 | User8022 | it fails when i try to detect and mount, or load installer componetns from CD |
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| 23:49.00 | User8022 | so i went to the term and mounted /dev/sdc1 to /media/cdrom |
| 23:49.03 | ajavid | User8022, go into busybox, mount it manually |
| 23:49.27 | User8022 | ajavid to /media/cdrom? |
| 23:49.35 | ajavid | User8022, no, you supposed to mount the iso image as loopback to the place where debian looks |
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| 23:50.01 | User8022 | ajavid, where should i mount that? I have a key with an ISO too |
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| 23:50.16 | vizzy | hi, just installe debian from latest netinstall. i just typed dpkg-reconmfigure xserver-xorg but there is no more selectbox for resolution |
| 23:50.38 | vizzy | ok, no problem, but wtf? i dont have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11, or its empty! |
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| 23:51.30 | adb | User8022: iso image must be on same usb stick see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 |
| 23:51.51 | vizzy | it only detects 1280xY, but i definitely have 1600x1080... so autodetection seems not so good as coders think .. better leave that option in reconfigure |
| 23:51.52 | Kazuha | Was there a recent change in Debian causing mounted .iso files to show up as being mounted loop devices? |
| 23:52.01 | ajavid | vizzy, its ok, calm down |
| 23:52.02 | vizzy | how to fix this? where has my xorg.conf gone? |
| 23:52.06 | ajavid | vizzy, manually edit xorg.conf |
| 23:52.11 | ajavid | vizzy, /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:52.17 | vizzy | ajavid, as i said, i dont have one! its empty |
| 23:52.20 | ajavid | vizzy, specify the resolution there, very easy |
| 23:52.28 | ajavid | vizzy, you don't have one or its empty? |
| 23:52.37 | vizzy | yes, if it would be a common file, i said its empty |
| 23:52.46 | ajavid | you said two thigns |
| 23:52.48 | vizzy | maybe i touched it with my editor right now |
| 23:52.51 | ajavid | empty != not exist |
| 23:52.54 | Kazuha | (ex "mount -oloop EVIL_GENIUS_CD1.iso mnt" produces "/dev/loop0 643M 643M 0 100% /awks/mnt" in df. ) |
| 23:52.57 | vizzy | but i dont cleaned it! |
| 23:53.10 | vizzy | ajavid, okok, it is empty |
| 23:53.19 | vizzy | and its timestamp says its 2 hours old |
| 23:53.26 | ajavid | vizzy, X -configure should lcreate a fully fledged/loaded xorg.conf |
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| 23:53.35 | ajavid | vizzy, most settings will be commented out, you can adjust to your taste |
| 23:54.11 | vizzy | i want recommended settings to be default as the server detects it |
| 23:54.14 | ajavid | vizzy, xorg now autodetects things. I would look at /var/log/Xorg.*.log |
| 23:54.30 | ajavid | vizzy, try to find out why xorg can't get edid info from the monitor |
| 23:54.54 | SQlvpapir__ | whats the tool that allows me to check what is using a specific port? |
| 23:55.03 | ajavid | SQlvpapir__, netstat |
| 23:55.21 | SQlvpapir__ | ajavid: nah not it |
| 23:55.32 | SQlvpapir__ | iirc |
| 23:55.35 | vizzy | ajavid, its a laptop, its native resolution is 1600x1080, how to figure out? |
| 23:55.39 | vizzy | edid? |
| 23:55.47 | ajavid | !edid |
| 23:55.47 | dpkg | edid is probably Extended Display Identification Data. you can modify the edid mode if you have problem with the res in X windows, because some monitors are known to lie about their capabilities, sometimes your screen can't use a higher resulution than e.g. 1024x768 in X windows, but there's a solution to this, by using 'Option' "IgnoreEDID" "1" in the section "Screen" in the XF86Config-4 file, note - this wont make your monitor able to use higher ... |
| 23:55.53 | vizzy | sorry, im only a 'user' or try to be one |
| 23:56.14 | ajavid | vizzy, heh |
| 23:56.27 | ajavid | factoid is old |
| 23:56.40 | SQlvpapir__ | ajavid: lsof ofc |
| 23:56.59 | ajavid | lsof ? to findout which ports are being used? |
| 23:57.02 | ajavid | ok |
| 23:57.44 | SQlvpapir__ | lol I'm so wasted |
| 23:58.08 | adb | SQlvpapir__: cat /etc/services | grep portnumber |
| 23:58.14 | Kazuha | Also, sometimes the same exact model of monitor can have it where the device capabilities are visible to xorg with one monitor, but not with another. |
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| 23:59.13 | vizzy | the coders better add this option to the reconfigure thing, its not nice to just strip that feature... even if x means to detect everything (or not). i guess its hard enough for new users to find out the reconfigure command.... sorry. |
