| 00:00.11 | adb | dpkg: tell vizzy about grounding |
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| 00:00.37 | vizzy | at least the X .configure thingy doesnt add resolution lines, wow |
| 00:01.02 | vizzy | very enduserfriendly! thx |
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| 00:01.40 | vizzy | i have deboians running on more than one machine without problems, maybe it autodetects everythoing and i didnt took care if its correct, but it works, it just works |
| 00:02.22 | adb | deboians ? |
| 00:02.28 | SQlvpapir__ | adb: seems I have an open port not owned by any process tcp 0 0 *:37987 *:* LISTEN - |
| 00:02.29 | vizzy | last time i installed it i had a nice preconfigured xorg.conf |
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| 00:03.19 | vizzy | adb, i'm sure you know it should read debian |
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| 00:09.16 | jpinx | edwin_quijada: did you decide? I use an eeepc with limited resources and lxde works well and looks nice |
| 00:09.48 | ajavid | !debain |
| 00:09.48 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The founder of Debian was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 00:10.01 | ajavid | same for deboians |
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| 00:11.12 | Esto | how to configure nfs to use static port in debian lenny/squeeze ? |
| 00:11.22 | Esto | kernel-nfs i mean |
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| 00:14.25 | adb | Esto: cat /etc/services | grep nfs |
| 00:14.30 | zmen01 | i like to write a small app that can strip a .txt file into a small text file based on certain commands (sed -n 'filter' input > new && awk 'length > 45 {print}' file > new file etc etc.) - with what language can i do this best? bash right? any suggestions how i can best do this? it should have parameters of 1 input file, and should have 1 output file |
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| 00:14.55 | enouf | grep nfs /etc/services !!! |
| 00:15.00 | Esto | adama_, there is only 2049 |
| 00:15.15 | enouf | no kitty kats man :-P |
| 00:15.17 | Esto | but nfs tends to use random port by default |
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| 00:15.28 | Esto | for actual connections, i mean |
| 00:15.45 | Esto | so, i intrested to limit that random to static one |
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| 00:16.40 | enouf | zmen01: ask #bash and you likely want < infile > outfile |
| 00:17.27 | enouf | or try #sed |
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| 00:19.36 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.14 | enouf | tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::* LISTEN 28397/cupsd what's wrong with that? |
| 00:20.20 | songer | but I got a clean window |
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| 00:20.39 | songer | I want to to update to sid |
| 00:21.02 | adb | songer: amd64 |
| 00:21.04 | amphi | songer: you don't |
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| 00:21.59 | songer | intel |
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| 00:22.44 | adb | songer: i told you /etc/*A*pt/sources.list not /etc/opt/ |
| 00:23.04 | songer | ok |
| 00:23.59 | adb | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:25.09 | amphi | adb: if he doesn't know where sources.list lives, is sid going to be a great idea? |
| 00:25.24 | songer | why it says Permission denied |
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| 00:25.51 | craigevil | why the hell would you even want to risk running sid if you do not know how to edit your sources.list ? that is just nuts |
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| 00:26.56 | Kazuha | Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Sid the unstable branch? |
| 00:27.03 | amphi | Kazuha: it is |
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| 00:27.30 | adb | amphi: i'm talking only the right path name .. |
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| 00:27.52 | Kazuha | I'd say its nuts for someone that doesn't know how to edit sources.list to run Sid. |
| 00:27.58 | amphi | adb: but you help him into the abyss ;) |
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| 00:28.25 | adb | no , into the hell .. |
| 00:28.30 | Kazuha | IMO, its just plain too unstable. |
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| 00:28.53 | c0m1 | question: I was hoping to have more fonts in openoffice (especially a greek characters font). What Lenny package should I install to get more fonts? |
| 00:29.03 | Kazuha | Subject to data destroying -- or install destroying bugs. |
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| 00:29.23 | Kazuha | And with a level of stability that is abhorrently low. |
| 00:29.46 | Kazuha | Granted, if they're an MSOS refugee, they would probably still see it as more stable. |
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| 00:30.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | Kazuha, you can /msg dpkg search ... and /msg dpkg install font for some special fonts you might already have around |
| 00:31.02 | craigevil | Kazuha: sid is fine IF you know what your doing, i have ran sid for 5 yrs, but the poor guy that doesnt even know howto edit his sources.list shouldn't even think about running sid |
| 00:31.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | Kazuha, msttcorefonts gives you the infamous windows fonts |
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| 00:33.28 | dhendrix | Is there any good documentation for turning a plain 'ol unified diff into a debianized patch that I can apply to a kernel using "--added-patches" for make-kpkg? |
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| 00:34.44 | asdfgh | hi, am after a good 1gb PCI-E quality graphics card to run on an amd64, using debian lenny ... anyone got any recommendations? |
| 00:35.39 | dhendrix | asdfgh: people are going to hate me for saying this, but in my experience nvidia graphics cards have always been the least troublesome for me (in spite of the closed / proprietary driver thing) |
| 00:36.48 | cmyers_work | dhendrix: seconded. Both about the unfortunate proprietary nature, and the "just working" part. |
| 00:37.30 | asdfgh | dhendrix: k, fair point, any particular model ie geforce 88/96/98 series? |
| 00:37.40 | ranix | my keyboard repeat has stopped functioning. What should I do to correct this? |
| 00:38.39 | cmyers_work | asdfgh: all nvidia cards pretty much use the exact same driver, so it almost doesn't matter. If you get the very newest model, you might have to either wait a bit, or download the newest driver from nvidia instead of apt-get installing nvidia-glx package. Older cards (say, 3-6 months) are more likely to work without the newest driver |
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| 00:38.50 | craigevil | ranix: what de/wm? and have you been playing funguloids |
| 00:38.59 | cmyers_work | but regardless, I've never seen an nvidia card that I couldn't get working with a few hours of fiddling with different driver versions. |
| 00:39.17 | ranix | craigevil: I'm in XFCE4 in X, I have 3 terminals open and that's about it |
| 00:39.55 | asdfgh | cmyers_work: k, thanks, might grab a 8800 gt then, bit older but still good (subjective opinion) |
| 00:40.00 | craigevil | no clue never ran xfce :) |
| 00:40.27 | ranix | I doubt this is an xfce problem |
| 00:40.31 | ranix | hh |
| 00:40.36 | ranix | scuse me |
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| 00:40.42 | cmyers_work | asdfgh: sweet, good luck =) |
| 00:40.44 | pingouin | why under debian 32 bits, i got 4053 of ram, and when i switch to debian 64 bits, i got 3977 ? |
| 00:41.10 | pingouin | physically i got 4 ram modules of 1 G each |
| 00:41.11 | cmyers_work | pingouin: are you using a stock debian kernel, or did you build your own? |
| 00:41.17 | ranix | but XFCE did fix it for me. Bizarre |
| 00:41.20 | ranix | thanks for the tip, craigevil |
| 00:41.44 | ranix | I went into some keyboard gui configuration under the xfce menu and disabled and re-enabled key repeat, and the problem is resolved |
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| 00:41.56 | pingouin | cmyers_work: the both, my own under the 32 bits, and the debian stock kernel with the 64 bits |
| 00:42.37 | cmyers_work | do you know if you used the bigmem feature? |
| 00:42.46 | cmyers_work | dpkg: tell pingouin about bigmem |
| 00:43.22 | cmyers_work | I'm not sure, but my guess is the 64-bit image includes bigmem support by default, whereas the other one doesn't. |
| 00:44.02 | cmyers_work | even with bigmem, on 32 bit, an individual proceess cannot address more than 4gb of ram, that is one thing 64-bit gets you. |
| 00:44.21 | pingouin | cmyers_work: i'll check that, but i think i got the bigmem under 64 bits |
| 00:44.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | ranix, xset r |
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| 00:44.48 | cmyers_work | oh, 64-bits is showing you less ram |
| 00:44.48 | ranix | thanks CutMeOwnThroat, that's the kind of answer I was looking for originally ;) |
| 00:44.53 | cmyers_work | could be an overhead thing =/ |
| 00:45.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, save it for next time :) |
| 00:45.06 | cmyers_work | still, the ram should show up and just be marked as used by the kernel. |
| 00:45.09 | ranix | will do |
| 00:45.23 | ranix | lost power earlier and something was on my keyboard spamming all sorts of crap during reboot |
| 00:45.36 | ranix | wasn't home when it was going on, now my keyboard is all fubar |
| 00:45.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | xset is of course only for X |
| 00:46.15 | pingouin | cmyers_work: should i launch a memtest or something like this ? |
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| 00:46.36 | cmyers_work | pingouin: running memtest86 wouldn't hurt, it is built into most debian install images I think |
| 00:46.51 | cmyers_work | at the very least, it should report accurately exactly how much ram you have |
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| 00:47.12 | cmyers_work | where are you getting your ram numbers from? /proc/meminfo? |
| 00:47.23 | pingouin | but why all ram modules appears in 32 bits, and not after a reboot under 64 bits....mystery... |
| 00:47.31 | pingouin | cmyers_work: /proc/meminfo and free -m |
| 00:47.43 | cmyers_work | hmm, yeh, that is strange, I dunno. |
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| 00:52.49 | Gun_Smoke | Looking at popcon.debian.org there is "Number of submissions considered: 84824" I take that to mean unique machines then? |
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| 00:57.32 | linux2 | Hi, I have a question about debian testing. I just installed a fresh copy and for some reason I cannot resolve host names in most applications. If I ping google.com it works, but if I try apt-get update it can't resolve the host names. Also if I try to use iceweasel it can't resolve the host names. any ideas? |
| 00:58.16 | Kazuha | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.18 | fefo | what do you have in you resolv.conf ? |
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| 00:58.41 | cmyers_work | linux2: are you using dhcp? ethernet connection? is it up? ifconfig -a -> pastebin.com |
| 00:58.56 | fefo | ah by fresh copy i understand 300MB installation of debian ;) |
| 00:59.10 | cmyers_work | (intermittent dns can be caused by accidentally leeching wireless from someone) |
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| 00:59.33 | linux2 | cmyers_work, I am using dhcp, ethernet connection, and it is up |
| 00:59.52 | cmyers_work | yeh, then let's see what your resolv.conf has in it |
| 00:59.55 | linux2 | cmyers_work, the system worked fine when I used stable |
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| 01:00.32 | linux2 | cmyers_work, nameserver 192.168.1.1 (listed 3 times on 3 separate lines) |
| 01:00.44 | fefo | ok |
| 01:00.54 | linux2 | cmyers_work, also the same on this computer |
| 01:00.58 | linux2 | cmyers_work, and I am able to connect |
| 01:01.05 | fefo | when you try to run dig $broken_domain from your dns server ?? |
| 01:01.15 | fefo | what's result ? |
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| 01:01.56 | linux2 | fefo, it does reply with proper A records |
| 01:02.21 | linux2 | fefo, it appears to be working, but only in some applications. It is weird. I had this problem before and I just reinstalled, but it appears to be an issue with testing currently |
| 01:02.24 | linux2 | fefo, |
| 01:02.31 | linux2 | fefo, I would just like to know what it is |
| 01:03.26 | fefo | linux2: but its weird |
| 01:03.37 | fefo | what about nsswitch.conf ? |
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| 01:04.00 | cusco | hi |
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| 01:05.08 | linux2 | fefo, ok hang on one sec while I look |
| 01:05.45 | linux2 | fefo, since I can't copy and paste what I see, anything particular I should look for? |
| 01:05.50 | linux2 | fefo, let me compare it to this machine |
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| 01:06.13 | fefo | why you cannot copy and paste ?:) |
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| 01:06.25 | linux2 | fefo, that computer has no network access |
| 01:06.39 | linux2 | fefo, well I think it does if I manually type in the ip address of a website |
| 01:06.49 | cusco | lol |
| 01:06.58 | linux2 | fefo, the nsswitch.conf file is exactly the same as this computer |
| 01:07.00 | cusco | you neet to set your dns up at /etc/resolv.conf |
| 01:07.17 | linux2 | the only different between this computer and that one is that this is stable and that is testing |
| 01:07.37 | fefo | linux2: and what is answer when you do dig from your machine ? |
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| 01:07.50 | fefo | and dig @192.168.1.1 google.com |
| 01:07.53 | fefo | for example |
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| 01:08.25 | linux2 | fefo, dig @192.168.1.1 google.com and dig google.com both return the same valid A records |
| 01:08.37 | cusco | so your dns is working |
| 01:08.46 | cusco | what is wrong if you "ping google.com" ? |
| 01:08.52 | linux2 | ping google.com works |
| 01:08.56 | fefo | ok |
| 01:08.58 | User8022 | Hi, im trying to install from a usb key. I've followed all the directions I could find, no luck. I can boot the installer off the key, but can't install. I've copied the ISO to the root of the drive and it can't find any install media |
| 01:09.02 | cusco | so you have internet |
| 01:09.03 | linux2 | but apt-get update does not work |
| 01:09.04 | fefo | so try some domain which is not working |
| 01:09.11 | cusco | that is something else |
| 01:09.12 | fefo | linux2: only that ? |
| 01:09.14 | linux2 | fefo, google.com isn't working |
| 01:09.29 | cusco | how not? ping works! |
| 01:09.36 | fefo | which other applications are not working |
| 01:09.42 | linux2 | I cannot go to google.com in iceweasel or use apt-get update |
| 01:09.55 | linux2 | I actually can only manually go to ips in iceweasel |
| 01:10.04 | cusco | o.O |
| 01:10.09 | linux2 | I cannot go to ftp.us.debian.org in iceweasel either |
| 01:10.19 | fefo | unfortunately i dont know what is icewheasel ;) |
| 01:10.24 | fefo | some web browser ? |
| 01:10.24 | linux2 | firefox |
| 01:10.28 | fefo | ach som |
| 01:10.30 | fefo | so |
| 01:10.34 | cusco | !iceweasel |
| 01:10.34 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces Firefox in Debian from Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. No longer supported in Etch, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2009/msg00063.html and ask me about <d-s-a>. |
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| 01:11.01 | fefo | cusco: thats why i dont like debian ;) |
| 01:11.23 | linux2 | fefo, it isn't just this machine that has this issue |
| 01:11.23 | fefo | linux2: strange but try for example elinks |
| 01:11.23 | User8022 | is there any way to get it to think the ISO is a cd, or tell it to install from an iso? |
| 01:11.23 | fefo | or lynx |
| 01:11.24 | fefo | o links |
| 01:11.27 | cusco | fefo: because it strugles to keep FREE ? |
| 01:11.28 | linux2 | fefo, when I updated to testing on this machine I ended up with the same problem |
| 01:11.44 | linux2 | fefo, I don't have it installed on that machine and it would be a bit of a pain to do it without the package manager |
| 01:11.52 | linux2 | fefo, it really is just the base install |
| 01:12.08 | fefo | cusco: i am too drunk to discuss about things like ... |
| 01:12.22 | cusco | User8022: to get <what> to think iso is a cd? if you are on a linux system mount it with the loopback option |
| 01:12.31 | linux2 | is anyone else here on testing? |
| 01:12.41 | fefo | and can you ping ftp.us.debian.org ? |
| 01:12.57 | linux2 | fefo, yep. and a dig ftp.us.debian.org returns valid A records |
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| 01:13.07 | cusco | fefo: anyway, firefox licence was preventing debian to change the source code and release it with teh same name, so debian was forced to change name |
| 01:13.18 | User8022 | cusco, im trying to install linux on a netbook. I'm able to boot off the USB key, but the installer can't find any installation media. I have the iso on there, I've mounted the drive in /mnt, but I cant get it installed |
| 01:13.30 | fefo | linux2: so apt-get update is doing strange things |
| 01:13.37 | linux2 | fefo, if I then take the IP address returned from dig at ftp.us.debian.org I can then go to the page |
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| 01:13.46 | fefo | and do you know some other domains which are not working ? |
| 01:14.00 | linux2 | fefo, no domains work |
| 01:14.10 | linux2 | fefo, the dns lookup is broken somewhere |
| 01:14.11 | fefo | but ping is working |
| 01:14.14 | fefo | strange |
| 01:14.15 | linux2 | fefo, yeah |
| 01:14.22 | linux2 | fefo, that is why I can't figure it out |
| 01:14.27 | linux2 | fefo, it makes no sense |
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| 01:14.49 | scan2010 | hello all of you |
| 01:14.52 | linux2 | fefo, possibly some kind of proxy settings? |
| 01:14.53 | fefo | are you running bind there ? |
| 01:15.02 | scan2010 | any one using atmail? |
| 01:15.02 | fefo | linux2: ihm |
| 01:15.07 | fefo | i dont think so |
| 01:15.22 | User8022 | if I mount it loop back, where do i mount it to? |
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| 01:15.57 | fefo | linux2: there is no error in hosts.conf ? |
| 01:15.59 | linux2 | fefo, nope |
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| 01:16.08 | linux2 | fefo, I don't think so. I can check just for the hell of it |
| 01:16.13 | cusco | User8022: you cannot just put the iso there. you must use something like ISOLINUX... your pendrive must be configured - look at to configure it on a linux system |
| 01:16.19 | cusco | User8022: at http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Boot_Debian_from_an_USB_device |
| 01:16.35 | fefo | linux2: because you know, it is going through list from nsswitch.conf |
| 01:16.44 | fefo | and trying every method.. |
| 01:17.08 | linux2 | the host files on this machine and that one are the seam |
| 01:17.09 | User8022 | cusco thank you. However, BOOTING isn't the problem. I can boot, set the language, keyboard, etc. The problem is the installer doesn't know what to do |
| 01:17.10 | linux2 | same |
| 01:17.27 | cusco | User8022: sorry I missunderstood you |
| 01:17.34 | cusco | User8022: how come the installer does not know what to do? |
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| 01:17.51 | linux2 | fefo, dns worked during the install |
| 01:17.52 | User8022 | cusco, no problem. I put the whole iso on there (~680) but it won't install from there for some reason |
| 01:18.09 | cusco | User8022: does it start the installer? |
| 01:18.12 | linux2 | fefo, also both machines are using the same kernel |
| 01:18.14 | fefo | linux2: and what the hell has changed ? |
| 01:18.16 | fefo | ;) |
| 01:18.24 | fefo | what have you configured ? |
| 01:18.27 | User8022 | cusco, it says "no cd rom found" so I tell it to look on removable media, and it says problem reading data from removable media |
| 01:18.33 | fefo | where are changes ?:) |
| 01:18.39 | User8022 | cusco, yeah, I set the keyboard, the localization, etc, installer is working |
| 01:19.13 | linux2 | fefo, I haven't changed anything |
| 01:19.16 | cusco | User8022: gotcha, I actually got that last time I was trying to install debian from usb... I could not find how to overcome it |
| 01:19.24 | linux2 | fefo, this is how it was when I first booted it up |
| 01:19.31 | cusco | User8022: debian looks for the cd anyway to go on with the instalation |
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| 01:19.33 | linux2 | fefo, I haven't installed anything or modified any files |
| 01:19.42 | cusco | User8022: you can mount it at /cdrom |
| 01:19.48 | linux2 | fefo, also, what is wmaster: 0 |
| 01:20.18 | User8022 | cusco, loop back? |
| 01:20.26 | cusco | User8022: I think best place to ask for help would be #debian-boot in oftc |
| 01:20.55 | cusco | mount -o loop /dev/hda /cdrom |
| 01:21.01 | cusco | orry |
| 01:21.09 | cusco | mount -o loop /palce/iso /cdrom |
| 01:21.13 | cusco | something lik that yea |
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| 01:21.22 | amphi | !tell linux2 -about wmaster0 |
| 01:21.30 | User8022 | cusco when i do that i get "cannot setup loop device: no such file or dir" |
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| 01:21.40 | User8022 | the /place/iso.iso exists (i tabbed it) |
| 01:21.42 | fefo | linux2: and 192.168.1.1 is some wifi router ? |
| 01:21.47 | fefo | or cimiliar stufF ? |
| 01:22.02 | User8022 | cusco, what is oftc? |
| 01:22.09 | linux2 | fefo, wired internet connection |
| 01:22.15 | linux2 | fefo, I think it is a netgear router |
| 01:22.21 | linux2 | fefo, I am connected through it on this machine |
| 01:22.40 | fefo | hmm |
| 01:22.43 | cusco | User8022: the IRC network where the oficial #debian is located - irc.debian.org will take you there |
| 01:22.43 | fefo | i have one idea |
| 01:22.54 | fefo | linux2: configure interface as static |
| 01:23.00 | linux2 | ok let me try it |
| 01:23.08 | User8022 | cusco, i'll give it a shot, thanks for your help |
| 01:23.08 | fefo | in /etc/network/interfaces ... |
| 01:23.16 | fefo | linux2: dont forget to mention dns |
| 01:23.18 | fefo | .. |
| 01:23.18 | cusco | wmaster0 represents your wireless card, but you want to configure the virtual wlan0 |
| 01:23.19 | fefo | there |
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| 01:23.56 | cusco | User8022: I would apretiate to also know how to solve that... but I think there are not many people awake in there at this time :p |
| 01:23.59 | cusco | good luck User8022 |
| 01:24.14 | cusco | so iwconfig wlan0 blabla |
| 01:25.14 | linux2 | fefo, nope, nothing |
| 01:25.26 | fefo | fuck it |
| 01:25.35 | linux2 | fefo, guess it is back to stable |
| 01:25.59 | cusco | I think your network problem is weird |
| 01:26.04 | fefo | linux2: are you little bit of coder ?:) |
| 01:26.13 | cusco | you are obviously connected, pinging |
| 01:26.18 | linux2 | I can't imagine I am the only one with this problem |
| 01:26.33 | linux2 | fefo, umm.... what are you asking there? lol |
| 01:26.34 | fefo | i mean could you write simple source, which is using gethostbyname ? |
| 01:26.44 | linux2 | fefo, I suppose I could |
| 01:26.54 | fefo | to test that library |
| 01:26.58 | cusco | that makes no sense |
| 01:27.04 | linux2 | fefo, but seems kinda annoying just to get this to work |
| 01:27.08 | cusco | but yea.. |
| 01:27.25 | linux2 | fefo, well the problem is pretty much that ping isn't going through some route that apt-get and iceweasel do |
| 01:27.33 | linux2 | fefo, I just don't know what that route is |
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| 01:27.48 | cusco | I don't think so |
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| 01:28.01 | cusco | the route should be the same, you can check it: netstat -r |
| 01:28.08 | cusco | there should be only one |
| 01:28.41 | cusco | try to set opendns in /etc/resolv.conf just to try |
| 01:28.58 | linux2 | cusco, the netstat -r output is the same as this machine |
| 01:29.22 | cusco | linux2: comment everything in /etc/resolv.conf and add this line: nameserver 208.67.222.222 |
| 01:29.31 | linux2 | cusco, ok. one sec |
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| 01:29.54 | fefo | cusco: do you think it is misconfigured dns ? |
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| 01:30.57 | linux2 | cusco, ok, well now it does work |
| 01:31.02 | cusco | weird stuff happened to me when I was using wrong dns... ping for instance was going trough, some pages would not load css... and I figured it could be some dns in cache and all the rest of it not going |
| 01:31.06 | linux2 | but it still doesn't make any sense |
| 01:31.07 | cusco | there |
| 01:31.24 | linux2 | why can it be set as 192.168.1.1 on this machine on the same network, but no on that machine |
| 01:32.00 | cusco | linux2: just run dhclient again to get the right dns address.. dunno |
| 01:32.04 | cusco | lol |
| 01:32.12 | cusco | anyway it works with opendns :-) |
| 01:32.33 | fefo | lol |
| 01:32.35 | linux2 | cusco, let me remove all entries from the /etc/resolv.conf and try manually entering it it |
| 01:32.44 | cusco | sure |
| 01:32.47 | fefo | i wanted to test again system libraries ;) |
| 01:32.57 | fefo | and it is possibly badly configured dns server |
| 01:33.05 | cusco | yes |
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| 01:33.18 | fefo | degeneration ;) |
| 01:34.03 | linux2 | ok, yeah it just can't resolve host names with 192.168.1.1 as the dns server with debian testing in my network |
| 01:34.13 | linux2 | that is kinda stupid if you ask me |
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| 01:34.50 | cusco | your router is not accepting you to use dns? |
| 01:34.55 | cusco | run dhclient again, establish a new lease |
| 01:35.38 | linux2 | cusco, already tried that |
| 01:35.42 | cusco | oh.. |
| 01:35.43 | linux2 | cusco, still didn't work |
| 01:35.49 | linux2 | cusco, only works on debian stable |
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| 01:35.56 | cusco | Im using testing |
| 01:36.02 | cusco | no problem with my dns! |
| 01:36.08 | linux2 | cusco, must be something specific to my network |
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| 01:36.25 | cusco | or just debian freaking out, you never know |
| 01:36.28 | land0 | is there a place to go to vote for or against the mono issue? |
| 01:36.38 | cusco | youc an always use tcpdump or install wireshark to try and debug it |
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| 01:36.49 | linux2 | cusco, I think I will try that |
| 01:36.52 | cusco | but that is just a big headache when |
| 01:36.57 | linux2 | cusco, give me a minute and we will see what my results are |
| 01:36.58 | cusco | and I can't help you there |
| 01:37.04 | fefo | linux2: if you know which ip is free in your network |
| 01:37.05 | fefo | use it |
| 01:37.08 | fefo | ;) |
| 01:37.11 | fefo | static |
| 01:37.13 | pickcoder | linux2: does route say you have a default route for 192.168.1.0 |
| 01:37.17 | fefo | kill every dhcp |
| 01:37.21 | cusco | that is a headache to me to |
| 01:37.33 | fefo | try another ip.. |
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| 01:37.49 | fefo | cusco: but dhclient wont do anything else |
| 01:38.02 | fefo | and it will assign the same address |
| 01:38.05 | fefo | so.. |
| 01:38.06 | linux2 | pickcoder, no, it has 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 01:38.11 | cusco | I mean when you try to use 192.168.1.1 as your nameserver |
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| 01:39.28 | pickcoder | linux2: after running dhclient to get a new lease it doesn't provide a default route? |
| 01:39.52 | linux2 | pickcoder, it does. it is this... |
| 01:39.53 | pickcoder | oh wait.. that is a the default route |
| 01:40.15 | linux2 | pickcoder, default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 01:40.37 | linux2 | pickcoder, it is the same as on this machine |
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| 01:41.09 | pickcoder | where's the 0.0.0.0 <gateway> entry though |
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| 01:41.26 | cusco | it should be another line |
| 01:41.46 | cusco | the line that starts with default |
| 01:42.09 | cusco | stating the gateway |
| 01:42.19 | pickcoder | ugh.. I'm used to reading route -n format |
| 01:42.28 | pickcoder | 192.168.1.1 is the default route |
| 01:42.30 | pickcoder | er |
| 01:42.31 | linux2 | idk, some weird issue |
| 01:42.31 | pickcoder | router |
| 01:42.40 | linux2 | probably will just fix itself over time |
| 01:42.43 | cusco | ah.. |
| 01:43.27 | adb | nameserver 127.0.0.1 , may help ? |
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| 01:44.53 | pickcoder | if dnsmasq is installed of bind is setup to forward then 127.0.0.1 will work |
| 01:44.59 | pickcoder | s/of/or |
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| 01:45.55 | adb | pickcoder: thanks |
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| 01:46.42 | linux2 | pickcoder, I don't think it is, unless it is default in testing |
| 01:46.48 | linux2 | now it is time to setup virtualbox |
| 01:46.51 | linux2 | oh goody |
| 01:47.02 | fogus | what version of debian should I get for the Intel E8400 processor (for a file server primarily) |
| 01:48.04 | fogus | the ia64 version? |
| 01:48.26 | adb | i386 or amd64 |
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| 01:48.46 | fogus | amd64 for intel? scary. is that true for most linux distros? |
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| 01:48.56 | cusco | lol |
| 01:49.20 | cusco | newer intel processors supports x86_64 |
| 01:49.23 | pickcoder | the amd64 kernel works for em64t |
| 01:49.41 | fogus | what is em64t? socket T? |
| 01:49.51 | pickcoder | I have an 8-way Xeon server running 5.0.1 |
| 01:50.09 | cusco | they are em64t wich is the same as amd64 |
| 01:50.25 | cusco | (not the same but ok, I don't know the specs :P ) |
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| 01:51.31 | cusco | !em64t |
| 01:51.31 | dpkg | i heard intel 64 is Intel's clone of AMD64 - provides 64-bit extensions to i386 architecture. Get either Debian i386 or amd64 (/msg dpkg amd64). This is the platform formally known as em64t. Please ask Intel to make up their minds as to what they want to call it. |
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| 01:52.09 | pickcoder | fogus: what chipset is the board going to have |
| 01:52.19 | pickcoder | that's a bigger compat question than the processor |
| 01:53.05 | fogus | pickcoder: Intel P45 / ICH10R with Intel® Fast Memory Access(FMA) support |
| 01:53.47 | fogus | pickcoder: see http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=31420 |
| 01:53.50 | pickcoder | I'm not up to speed on ICH revisions, but I don't see why it shouldn't work. |
| 01:54.04 | fogus | pickcoder: I'm down for trying anything |
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| 01:54.37 | cusco | fogus: if not using sun-java nor adobe-flashplugin then go for amd64 |
| 01:54.56 | cusco | else you have to isntal some 32bit libs to make them work, no prob there neither |
| 01:55.24 | linux2 | cusco, flash works pretty well with the 32bit libs on my debian 64bit machine |
| 01:55.44 | fogus | cusco: just a file server. don't see why I should need anything java |
| 01:55.47 | cusco | precisely |
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| 01:55.53 | cusco | there :-) |
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| 01:57.39 | fogus | would you guys recommend debian or ubuntu as a file server and why? |
| 01:57.44 | pickcoder | 32-bit would suffice just a well |
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| 01:58.02 | pickcoder | I've not seen much of a performance difference doing typical server stuff |
| 01:58.10 | fogus | pickcoder: I ran into a ~4TB limit with windows 32bit |
| 01:58.10 | cusco | we here recomend debian, because this is #debian |
| 01:58.17 | pickcoder | disk subsystem performance and RAM matters more |
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| 01:58.35 | fogus | cusco: can you pretend that this is #linux just for this one question? |
| 01:58.40 | cusco | also because of debian's reputation to be rock solid and totally free |
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| 01:58.46 | fogus | its so hard to find objective linux guys |
| 01:58.53 | cusco | also because everything works |
| 01:58.59 | Kazuha | No one's objective. |
| 01:59.06 | cusco | and it is easy to make custom solutions to work |
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| 01:59.20 | Kazuha | Everyone will likely recommend the distro they use -- and no other. |
| 01:59.29 | fogus | pickcoder: I ran into the limit with win32. win64 solved it |
| 01:59.44 | fogus | due to the 48bit address space of win64 |
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| 02:00.11 | cusco | you have apt, that is smart when it comes to handling dependencys |
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| 02:00.28 | cusco | a whole bunch of software available to install from the repos.. |
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| 02:00.40 | cusco | that is all I can think of fogus |
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| 02:02.17 | pickcoder | fogus: ext3 has a similar limit if you use 2K block size. the 4K block size, which is default AFAIK supports ~8TB |
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| 02:02.58 | fogus | pickcoder: I need to host ~20TB |
| 02:03.07 | cusco | WOW! |
| 02:03.43 | fogus | I am going to be bulding a software RAID 5 (I think) |
| 02:03.45 | pickcoder | so split the storage up using LVM |
| 02:04.11 | fogus | pickcoder: people told me not to use LVM and use MV instead. your opinion? |
| 02:04.22 | pickcoder | I have no idea what MV is |
| 02:04.23 | Arrowmaster | thats just asking for trouble, use raid 6 not 5 |
| 02:04.34 | pickcoder | raid 10 is even better |
| 02:04.39 | fogus | Arrowmaster: why is that? |
| 02:04.48 | fogus | pickcoder: raid 10 is 50% storage |
| 02:04.59 | fogus | pickcoder: raid 10 is fast but I need more space than speed |
| 02:05.13 | pickcoder | and when one drive chokes everything crawls |
| 02:05.30 | tpocra | Does anyone know of a way to get firefox/iceweasel 3.5 for amd64 Debian? |
| 02:05.37 | fogus | Arrowmaster: so RAID 6 is total_space - two_drive |
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| 02:05.44 | Arrowmaster | fogus: yes |
| 02:05.53 | pickcoder | if it's only used occasionally then RAID 5 is ok for backups |
| 02:05.54 | fogus | Arrowmaster: I don't have a problem with that |
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| 02:06.35 | fogus | I will have 12 @ 1TB drives to start with but I need to be able to expand to at least 16 |
| 02:07.07 | fogus | http://www.norcotek.com/item_detail.php?categoryid=1&modelno=RPC-4220 |
| 02:07.15 | fogus | google results look funny today |
| 02:07.47 | fogus | should I use ext4 instead or does MV RAID take care of that for me? |
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| 02:08.21 | fogus | maybe I should use NTFS |
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| 02:09.28 | miickee | I am having trouble getting sound to work in iceweasel, I've installed all alsa packages and used alsaconf etc |
| 02:09.43 | fogus | ntfs can do 1EB |
| 02:09.50 | JPT | sound in iceweasel?! |
| 02:10.04 | JPT | miickee: but your usual system sounds are working? |
| 02:10.04 | miickee | Yeah, why is that ridiculous to suggest? |
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| 02:10.13 | miickee | All sounds, system beeps etc |
| 02:10.17 | pickcoder | ntfs support is "usable" at best and I wouldn't trust it to a file server |
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| 02:10.19 | JPT | alsa or oss? |
| 02:10.24 | gnome_ | hey what is the syntax to connect to a AP in linux |
| 02:10.30 | miickee | alsa |
| 02:10.31 | fogus | my body does 1YB of processing per day on the molecular level with like, what 2000 Calories. what's with these slow computers? |
| 02:10.33 | JPT | hmm |
| 02:10.35 | JPT | strange |
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| 02:11.12 | miickee | Any files I may need to check? I read that by default when you reinstall java (i did) the volume is set to "0".. how can I change that, if that is the case? |
| 02:11.34 | JPT | miickee: i had some applications that needed to be run with aoss in order to have working sound |
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| 02:11.46 | JPT | but i don't remember iceweasel being one of them |
| 02:11.47 | fogus | pickcoder: well, does MV raid take care of multiple single ext3 formated drives? |
| 02:11.56 | pickcoder | I dunno what MV raid is |
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| 02:12.14 | fogus | right, sorry |
| 02:12.15 | miickee | Hmm ok. Cause yes I can play all kinds of media files with sound, and I get system beeps and no iceweasel sounds hmm. Interesting |
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| 02:13.08 | fogus | pickcoder: what about this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-0.4x-HOWTO.html ? |
| 02:13.27 | fogus | is that MV raid? the centos guys told me that I should use MV and sent me there |
| 02:13.47 | fogus | oh, maybe that was MD raid, my bad |
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| 02:15.17 | cusco | lol |
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| 02:16.34 | phogg | fogus: with md raid you put a filesystem on the raid device, not the individual disks |
| 02:17.03 | pickcoder | raid, in general, provides one block device to use based on several disks |
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| 02:17.26 | miickee | Ok this is weird, now I can only use audio for one application at a time, before I could use as many as I liked :S |
| 02:17.34 | fogus | phogg: what "raid device"? |
| 02:17.34 | miickee | Before alsa, shit. |
| 02:17.51 | pickcoder | you can carve that device up with LVM and create logical volumes to mount on the FS |
| 02:17.57 | pickcoder | they can also be resized if needed |
| 02:18.38 | fogus | pickcoder: what "device"? |
| 02:18.42 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.47 | pickcoder | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.54 | phogg | fogus: yes, what pickcoder said |
| 02:19.00 | pickcoder | you should read up on mdraid |
| 02:19.11 | fogus | pickcoder: what should I read? I read a lot... |
| 02:19.12 | pickcoder | before you decide to go that route versus hardware raid |
| 02:19.15 | phogg | fogus: the disks that go in to that device are raw and any filesystem you may have put on them will be destroyed |
| 02:19.29 | fogus | pickcoder: I hate hardware raid. what if my raid controller fails? |
| 02:19.51 | pickcoder | fogus: you're still using a SATA/SAS controller aren't you? |
| 02:19.52 | phogg | I think I learned it all from a raid howto |
| 02:19.53 | pickcoder | what if it fails |
| 02:20.13 | fogus | pickcoder: I have not set up anything yet |
| 02:20.21 | fogus | pickcoder: whtat would you use? |
| 02:20.24 | miickee | Room: Browser audio problem solved :) Scrapped alsa altogether, put it all to "autodetect" and BAM! Works |
| 02:20.33 | JPT | hehe |
| 02:20.45 | JPT | have fun listening to stuff on youtube^^ |
| 02:20.51 | pickcoder | controller failure is something no one wants and you can't avoid it unless you mirror your filesystems on multiple controllers |
| 02:20.59 | phogg | fogus: I endorse software raid, md raid specifically. |
| 02:21.05 | miickee | JPT:Yep, debian's proving to be the best linux distro I've used in years |
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| 02:22.13 | fogus | phogg: good to know. I don't need really high performance. I am expecting mostly streaming video from ~10 users at 20% mean load within 1 Standard deviation of the mean load. |
| 02:23.11 | fogus | phogg: most of my clients will be using windows. is this a problem? how can I do permissions in active directory? |
| 02:23.24 | jeffrey__ | Is there any easier way to generate the difference of two commit in Linux kernel source code than "git diff 42ca4fb69126dd9d0e25112edca1cacf846aa5c3 43644679a1e80f53e6e0155ab75b1093ba3c0365", since that the revision number is so long in Linux kernel source code. |
| 02:23.55 | phogg | fogus: windows client access is a seperate issue having nothing to do with underlying FS or disk setup. Samba is the answer. |
| 02:24.17 | phogg | fogus: or rather, one common answer. You could also install NFS clients on your Windows boxes. |
| 02:24.24 | fogus | phogg: so Samba doesn't require NTFS? |
| 02:24.36 | phogg | fogus: hell no |
| 02:24.47 | adb | jeffrey__: wronng channel ? |
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| 02:25.04 | fogus | phogg: so, I could use ext3 (or ext4?on |
| 02:25.13 | fogus | (ignore that) |
| 02:25.18 | phogg | fogus: as I said, the FS has nothing to do with client access. |
| 02:25.30 | Jids | what program is it that Knoppix has that allows it to immediately configure a wireless connection that i'm unable to find in straight-up Debian? |
| 02:25.50 | phogg | Jids: no idea. I use wpa_supplicant (and wpa_gui) |
| 02:26.10 | fogus | phogg: so, I could use ext3 (or ext4?) on each individual drive and use MD RAID to manage all the drives? or does MD RAID overwrite whatever was on the drive (in terms of format) and use its own thing? |
| 02:26.24 | fogus | phogg: is it easy to add new drives to an existing MD RAID RAID setup? |
| 02:26.41 | Jids | phogg: so do i... but it's annoying - i booted up Knoppix, and there was a little textbox in the corner saying that wireless networks were available - i clicked and it asked for a network and password, and it connected in <5s |
| 02:26.50 | phogg | fogus: you make a raid device out of e.g. sda and sdb, making md0. You then mkfs on md0. You have no filesystem on the devices themselves, only on the raid device, |
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| 02:27.21 | phogg | Jids: how nice for Knoppix. Next time consult ps and see what it was doing. |
| 02:27.30 | fogus | phogg: got it. what should I read? |
| 02:27.33 | Jids | good idea :) i didn't think of that |
| 02:27.49 | Arrowmaster | fogus: afaik software raids dont have great support for enlarging the arrays, but good hardware controllers do |
| 02:28.16 | phogg | fogus: I don't recall. I read the software raid howto back when it wasn't really out of date. Today I'd say "man mdadm", but it's a bit hard to follow. |
| 02:28.22 | pickcoder | LVM supports growth by adding more physical volumes, which can be md devices |
| 02:28.47 | Arrowmaster | thats completely different |
| 02:28.50 | pickcoder | the FS on the block device has to support growth, too |
| 02:29.19 | phogg | Yes, ultimately what I'd do is make md devices and add them to LVM as PVs, then make things out of that. |
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| 02:38.02 | DetroitLibertyPe | does anybody know a good small p2p app? |
| 02:38.28 | cusco | telnet |
| 02:38.29 | cusco | lol |
| 02:38.44 | DetroitLibertyPe | !lol |
| 02:38.44 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 02:39.09 | cusco | !anybody |
| 02:39.09 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 02:40.19 | cusco | bot fight |
| 02:41.04 | DetroitLibertyPe | cusco: wth are you talking about |
| 02:41.48 | magnuX | DetroitLibertyPe, use frostwire |
| 02:42.05 | cusco | I was mumbling to myself |
| 02:42.20 | DetroitLibertyPe | i've tried frostwire, it just uses up too much memory |
| 02:42.46 | magnuX | DetroitLibertyPe, use gtk+gnutella |
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| 02:43.43 | DetroitLibertyPe | magnuX: I'm trying that right now, any suggestions? Upon first look it appears to have less options as far as search song, band, filename, etc. |
| 02:44.05 | deadbeef | hello guys excuseme: is there a way to rebind the key "spacebar" on another key temporairly? |
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| 02:44.13 | deadbeef | like the pgup one |
| 02:44.44 | deadbeef | i am having problems with my laptop's keyboard but i have to finish some projects before sending to assistance |
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| 02:45.40 | d_b | How can I use wget to download http://example.org/01.pdf up to 15.pdf ? |
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| 02:46.38 | DetroitLibertyPe | d_b have you tried wget http://example.org/*.pdf ? just guessing here |
| 02:47.03 | deadbeef | DetroitLibertyPe: it's stupid |
| 02:47.12 | deadbeef | wget doesn't know what files are on the webserver |
| 02:47.19 | deadbeef | DetroitLibertyPe: do like this: |
| 02:47.22 | d_b | DetroitLibertyPe: no but how does it know when to stop then? |
| 02:47.40 | cusco | d_b: wget http://example.org/01.pdf -O 15.pdf |
| 02:47.54 | deadbeef | ops |
| 02:48.00 | deadbeef | d_b: do like this: |
| 02:48.05 | fogus | phogg: what does PV stand for in context to LVM? |
| 02:48.13 | cusco | d_b: sorry |
| 02:48.20 | d_b | cusco: hm, I think you misunderstood. I mean all pdf files from number 01 up to 15 :) |
| 02:48.38 | cusco | yes that is in wget manual, I don't remmeber |
| 02:48.41 | deadbeef | perl -we for($i = 1; $i < 10; $i++) { system("wget -c url/" .$i.".pdf"); }' |
| 02:48.43 | deadbeef | and then |
| 02:48.57 | phogg | fogus: physical volume |
| 02:48.58 | deadbeef | ops sorry: |
| 02:49.12 | d_b | cusco: I'm trying to find in the manual but can't so I thought I might as well ask here. |
| 02:49.38 | cusco | it was in an example, related with the recursive option |
| 02:49.49 | deadbeef | perl -we for($i = 1; $i < 10; $i++) { system("wget -c url/0" .$i.".pdf"); }' |
| 02:49.52 | cusco | I can think of a bash script |
| 02:49.53 | deadbeef | and |
| 02:50.16 | deadbeef | perl -we for($i = 0; $i < 6; $i++) { system("wget -c url/1" .$i.".pdf"); }' |
| 02:50.26 | deadbeef | the previous 2 commands do the work |
| 02:50.26 | d_b | Ah apparently wget can't count like curl |
| 02:50.35 | fogus | phogg: so I can use LVM to join MDed PVs? if I had 12 disks currently, what would be my best setup? MD all 12 together and add them to a LV? |
| 02:50.48 | deadbeef | it's stupid to pretend wget to do that, because wget can't know what's on a server |
| 02:50.49 | cusco | d_b: for i in $(seq 1 15); do wget http://example.org/$i.pdf; done |
| 02:50.54 | d_b | deadbeef: thanks but I'm looking for something a bit easier that I can remember to type out some other time :) |
| 02:51.01 | deadbeef | it's really dumb stupid and idiotic to pretend that |
| 02:51.27 | cusco | deadbeef: it can if the server has listing |
| 02:51.38 | cusco | deadbeef: it can follow links recursivelly |
| 02:51.53 | deadbeef | cusco: it's a completely different thing |
| 02:52.03 | Lns | deadbeef, i think he's assuming that he already knows those files are on the server. |
| 02:52.04 | fogus | phogg: then if I had more drives to add later I could make another MD out of them and add that MD as a PV to LVM? |
| 02:52.11 | fogus | what a day |
| 02:52.12 | phogg | fogus: I am not an authority on what is best. |
| 02:52.14 | cusco | Lns: that |
| 02:52.26 | deadbeef | Lns: i was regerring to the wget url/*.pdf madnes |
| 02:52.34 | fogus | phogg: how about "what would probably work"? |
| 02:52.42 | deadbeef | considering that * isn't interpreted by the program you invoke, but by the shell |
| 02:52.48 | d_b | Lns: yes I'm just too lazy to click all the links so I wanted something "easier" |
| 02:52.49 | cusco | d_b: try that: 03:50 < cusco> d_b: for i in $(seq 1 15); do wget http://example.org/$i.pdf; done |
| 02:52.51 | deadbeef | btw tnx for answering to the kb question |
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| 02:53.27 | fogus | man. I need that richard guy |
| 02:54.34 | cusco | stallman? |
| 02:54.35 | d_b | cusco: worked like a charm and was pretty easy, thanks! what does "i" stand for? |
| 02:54.56 | cusco | d_b: i is the var, you could have called it number |
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| 02:55.31 | d_b | cusco: ah, I've only seen "f" before so I thought they meant specific things. thanks again |
| 02:55.37 | cusco | for number in $(seq 1 15); do wget http://blah.com/$number.pdf; done |
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| 02:56.36 | cusco | seq 1 15 - will list you all numbers between 1 and 15 |
| 02:56.36 | phogg | fogus: you make PVs out of multiple disks or partitions, including md disks. PVs can then be put into volume groups, possibly with some kind of raid. Logical volumes are carved out of volume groups. There's no need to make md disks first, but I like to think it gives more flexibility. If a disk dies, your PV is still intact. |
| 02:59.26 | fogus | phogg: I think I misunderstood what you meant by "physical volume" |
| 02:59.40 | fogus | phogg: or do I have to make hard drives now? |
| 02:59.47 | fogus | I already bought a whole bunch |
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| 03:00.41 | fogus | phogg: since I don't have a hard drive factory on hand, how can I make the PVs you are suggesting I make? |
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| 03:00.51 | Pointless | hi, got a lil question that its not really debian related (but im using debian) |
| 03:01.06 | Pointless | i hope that someone can point me in wich direction to go |
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| 03:01.25 | SQlvpapir | Pointless: just ask |
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| 03:01.26 | Pointless | my box was hard reseted and now it cant boot |
| 03:01.33 | Pointless | the filesystem seems to be fucked up |
| 03:01.45 | cusco | what are the error mensages you get? |
| 03:01.55 | Pointless | fsck tells me that the superblock or partiotion table is corrupt |
| 03:02.07 | Pointless | is thre any way to fix it? now i'm with the debian mini cd in rescue mode |
| 03:02.18 | Pointless | i cant mount the filesystem (/dev/sda1) |
| 03:02.29 | cusco | don't |
| 03:02.30 | Pointless | but i can mount /dev/sda3 (so its not a hard driv eproblem) |
| 03:02.37 | cusco | run fsck with repair mode |
| 03:02.38 | Pointless | any idea on how to fix this ? :/ |
| 03:04.17 | phogg | fogus: a PV is a block device, or a partition on a block device. A MD device is a block device. You need to have the drive present or you can't make either of them. |
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| 03:05.44 | cusco | Pointless: fsck -a -y /dev/sda3 |
| 03:05.53 | cusco | or whatever partition |
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| 03:11.09 | fogus | phogg: so how DO I make a PV? is that like formatting something to ext3? (or should I use ext4?) |
| 03:11.23 | phogg | fogus: it's more like using fdisk |
| 03:11.37 | phogg | fogus: I would not yet use ext4 for anything important. |
| 03:11.44 | phogg | fogus: man pvcreate |
| 03:13.25 | fogus | kk |
| 03:13.44 | fogus | thanks so much man |
| 03:14.43 | Pointless | thx cusco |
| 03:14.45 | Pointless | i'll try |
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| 03:51.19 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps what's a good sync tool for dirs on diff boxes, I got a script folder I want to sync and I may make changes to both folders.. perhaps to the same file and iwould like it to catch it. |
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| 04:02.46 | bawok | hello why i try all command on debian always says Segmentation fault |
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| 04:13.06 | bbelt16ag | ... |
| 04:13.12 | bbelt16ag | rsync seems to be ok too |
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| 04:14.42 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 04:16.10 | superlinux | do you know a library that does not take time compiling and uses the make / make install way to build? |
| 04:16.27 | superlinux | i want to make an illustrative video about it. |
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| 04:22.07 | r4ban | how can i start the grub prompt on the alternate jaunty amd64 CD? |
| 04:22.46 | r4ban | i'm getting grub error 15, i have no CD drive, i'm booting from USB |
| 04:23.01 | craigevil | !tell r4ban about ubuntu |
| 04:23.06 | r4ban | that is, usb with alternate install |
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| 04:23.26 | bbelt16ag | hmm |
| 04:23.38 | r4ban | crap, wrong channel >_< |
| 04:23.39 | bbelt16ag | how big can a message be sent to gmail? mines 90 mb... |
| 04:23.41 | r4ban | sorry |
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| 04:28.10 | ajavid | for a chroot, if it complains that something can't do something because sysfs is not mounted on sys, does one mount --bind /sys as type 'sysfs' for the chroot? |
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| 04:29.50 | ajavid | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.59 | ajavid | uhm.. ok mounted sysfs and now this crap |
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| 04:36.30 | iluminator101 | Hi, Can someone tell how to upgrade my kernel before boot, b/z i have my home setup on ext4 but 2.6.2-2 kernel of debian squeeze does not support ext4 |
| 04:36.42 | Pnux | hey, you know sometimes you get the '/dev/sdaX has been mounted X times without being checked. Check forced'.. i want to know how i can see how many times it was mounted, how can i check that? |
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| 04:43.01 | hercynium | I have to know... what is aptitude-run-state-bundle for??? |
| 04:43.35 | hercynium | I've searched google, read the man pages, but I can't tell if it's just a diagnostic tool, or a backup-restore tool |
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| 04:44.20 | iluminator101 | hi monsterb |
| 04:44.40 | iluminator101 | Monsterb: how would i upgrade my kernel before boot in debian? |
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| 04:45.23 | adb | iluminator101: monsterb has quit.. |
| 04:45.35 | adb | no , |
| 04:45.40 | iluminator101 | ah ha |
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| 04:47.52 | hattst | hi, is it possible to delete a certain package without deleting the dependencies that I initially downloaded when I downloaded that package? |
| 04:48.03 | hattst | with synaptic |
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| 04:49.30 | cusco | command line, you just apt-get remove packagename |
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| 04:50.03 | zGhost | anyone know the recommended way of getting an XFCE desktop without all the other stuff? |
| 04:50.39 | iluminator101 | is there way to upgrade your linux kernel before booting up? |
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| 04:51.33 | cusco | zGhost: xfce4 is a meta package for all the xfce components |
| 04:51.41 | JPT | before booting up? |
| 04:51.44 | cusco | if you only wnat the desktop install only xfdesktop4 |
| 04:51.51 | Lns | iluminator101, how do you expect to do *anything* without booting up? |
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| 04:52.07 | zGhost | cusco: I want to do a fresh install without installing much of the gnome desktop and other garbage |
| 04:52.17 | zGhost | cusco: just do a base install, then apt-get install xfce4? |
| 04:52.40 | cusco | zGhost: xfce and gdm or xdm and x-window-system-core |
| 04:52.53 | cusco | yea, that sounds about right |
| 04:53.14 | zGhost | cusco: just noticed that 4.6 is in Lenny :( |
| 04:53.50 | zGhost | I mean 4.4 |
| 04:53.52 | adb | iluminator101: yes, use a live cd , and chroot in your system to install new kernel , short answered |
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| 04:54.30 | cusco | so? |
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| 04:55.17 | iluminator101 | adb can you point me to a tutorial on that |
| 04:55.44 | Lns | iluminator101, why would you want to do that? |
| 04:55.54 | cusco | just boot a live cd, then chroot /media/somepartition |
| 04:55.58 | cusco | then you're there |
| 04:56.02 | zGhost | cusco: I was just a bit disappointed, I was hoping 4.6 would be in stable |
| 04:56.03 | cusco | just upgrade |
| 04:56.13 | iluminator101 | b/z debian squeeze dont support ext4 my home partiton |
| 04:56.14 | cusco | zGhost: oh well... |
| 04:56.28 | Gryfelhase | hii've installed lenny via netinstall-image (base-system). After that i did apt-get install Xorg.... |
| 04:56.40 | Gryfelhase | but xorg.conf is empty |
| 04:56.41 | cusco | iluminator101: you can still boot up in recoverymode from grub |
| 04:56.41 | adb | iluminator101: man chroot |
| 04:56.44 | Lns | iluminator101, can't you upgrade your kernel w/o /home ? |
| 04:56.49 | Gryfelhase | any hints ? |
| 04:56.52 | cusco | that will not need to mount your /home |
| 04:57.23 | cusco | Gryfelhase: apt-get install gnome-core x-window-system-server |
| 04:57.39 | cusco | Gryfelhase: apt-get install gnome-core x-window-system-core |
| 04:57.43 | cusco | that |
| 04:57.46 | Gryfelhase | ok, ill try, thx |
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| 04:58.30 | cusco | Gryfelhase: or only gnome-core - it should installed teh required xorg packages |
| 04:58.42 | zGhost | cusco: backports possibly an option? |
| 04:59.07 | cusco | dunno if you have a newer version in there |
| 04:59.24 | cusco | testing uses 4.6 |
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| 05:00.39 | Bilbo_Baggins | HAPPPPPPPY JULY 3rd! |
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| 05:04.11 | Gryfelhase | cusco: x-windows-system-core seems identical to Xorg |
| 05:04.15 | hattst | oh. thanks cusco. |
| 05:04.36 | Gryfelhase | Do you know why gnome core contains xorg.conf ? |
| 05:04.48 | Gryfelhase | that doesn't make much sense to me |
| 05:07.08 | ajavid | sweet |
| 05:07.23 | ajavid | I figured how to run kde3.5.10 and 4.3.x on debian stable :D |
| 05:07.30 | ajavid | http://picpaste.com/kde.png <- im the man... |
| 05:08.07 | JPT | Oo |
| 05:08.13 | JPT | nice |
| 05:08.42 | ajavid | and xorg 7.4 too and i got 3d on it! yay |
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| 05:09.12 | ajavid | trying to get another thing to work properly |
| 05:09.20 | ajavid | vmware or virtualbox (2.6.30) |
| 05:10.08 | ajavid | vbox works on .30 but the display is fucked up inside the vbox machine. vmware won't build, I tried the it psycho patch and josh's patch from vmware communities but patch won't apply, some lines mismatch i think |
| 05:10.28 | JPT | wait a sec.. |
| 05:10.32 | JPT | display fucked up? |
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| 05:10.44 | ajavid | yeh, starting from the bios screen |
| 05:10.57 | Supaplex | ahh. finally. "We've upgraded to Freeside HEAD as of a few weeks ago, and updated past the postal invoice gotcha. (just the code that's affected). |
| 05:11.00 | ajavid | the whole display is totally caput, it is totally broken, I don't enable 3d accel either |
| 05:11.01 | Supaplex | balh! |
| 05:11.05 | JPT | mhh |
| 05:11.19 | JPT | broken => looks like every single pixel got color inverted? |
| 05:11.20 | ajavid | and video memory is set to 128mb |
| 05:11.21 | Supaplex | finally: sudo -i -u user == sudo su - user |
| 05:11.27 | ajavid | JPT, YES! |
| 05:11.30 | ajavid | JPT, exactly! |
| 05:11.37 | JPT | i've got that too... |
| 05:11.44 | JPT | it's the same as with skype |
| 05:11.45 | ajavid | JPT, if you keep resizing the vbox window, you can see it flicking in and out |
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| 05:12.00 | JPT | when i defocus the window, everything goes back 2 normal |
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| 05:12.31 | JPT | i associated this with virtualbox until i realized, that skype is causing this, too.. |
| 05:12.35 | JPT | but i don't know why |
| 05:12.43 | JPT | i did not change anything.. |
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| 05:13.28 | ajavid | dude |
| 05:13.31 | ajavid | check this out |
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| 05:13.47 | quentusrex | Hello. The company I work at is looking to 'fix' the network file systems. I know of NFS and I am familiar with this, but are there better options? We will need redundant onsite storage of +10TB and we will have MANY independant services(web services, vpn, etc) accessing it. |
| 05:13.48 | ajavid | I just launched kde 3.5.10 for ajavid on ajavid-desktop on :0 and kde 4.3 on :1 ;) |
| 05:14.01 | ajavid | now I switch with alt+ctrl+f7/f8 |
| 05:14.05 | JPT | xD |
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| 05:14.13 | ajavid | now I can use chvt on my multimedia keybaords extra keys |
| 05:14.24 | ajavid | the left/right arrow on my extra buttons using keytouch |
| 05:14.29 | JPT | hehe |
| 05:14.30 | JPT | nice |
| 05:14.31 | ajavid | sweet, debian stable kicks ass |
| 05:14.37 | ajavid | yo ucan keep fucking with it, and it still remains stable |
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| 05:16.27 | ajavid | :2 now has my kde 3.5.10 lenny kdm desktop via xdmcp ! |
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| 05:16.43 | ajavid | I just build this computer, 3.5ghz core 2, 8gb ram, very loaded |
| 05:16.53 | JPT | nice |
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| 05:17.08 | ajavid | now I need to just get vmware or vbox working so i can get xp pro x64 and couple more OS |
| 05:17.14 | quentusrex | Anyone? |
| 05:17.29 | quentusrex | Is anyone familiar with GlusterFS? |
| 05:18.40 | JPT | mhh.. |
| 05:18.49 | JPT | i think about underclocking.. |
| 05:18.54 | JPT | 31.1°C in this room |
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| 05:19.35 | ajavid | I have a core 2 e6300 |
| 05:19.44 | ajavid | originally 1.866ghz now at 3.5ghz |
| 05:19.47 | JPT | Oo |
| 05:19.53 | ajavid | its been overclocked going on 3 years |
| 05:19.58 | JPT | <-- E6600 @ 2.4GHz... |
| 05:20.10 | ajavid | I bought this cpu when i was in oklahoma city, that was even before I spend 3 years in new york |
| 05:20.11 | JPT | how do you keep that system cool?! |
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| 05:20.18 | ajavid | damn, going on what, 4 years now |
| 05:20.25 | ajavid | this is a badass cpu |
| 05:20.32 | devurandom | Does someone know a lightweigth and fast browser available in Squeeze? |
| 05:20.33 | ajavid | JPT, air cooling |
| 05:20.36 | JPT | Oo |
| 05:20.45 | ajavid | JPT, i blew out 1 mobo after 3 years |
| 05:20.49 | JPT | xD |
| 05:20.50 | ajavid | well it didn't blow out |
| 05:20.50 | iluminator101 | installing kernel from live cd what folder do i install the new kernel to |
| 05:21.00 | ajavid | it wokred just fine, only that 2 ram slots died |
| 05:21.08 | devurandom | Or can someone tell me how to install just one single package from Sid into Squeeze? |
| 05:21.10 | ajavid | and i onlyhad like 1gb ram in that box |
| 05:21.30 | ajavid | so I figured, I might as well rebuilt, so i got a badass gigabyte mobo for 120$ |
| 05:21.47 | ajavid | well kinda cheap but badass anyway, and this cpu, and 8gb ram and 2tb of space |
| 05:21.57 | ajavid | just upgraded my older build from oklahoma |
| 05:22.12 | ajavid | i spend 400$ on that build 4 years ago, I got literally 10 times my money's worth |
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| 05:22.55 | devurandom | (lightweigth and fast *web*browser, I mean) |
| 05:23.00 | JPT | wow.... |
| 05:23.06 | ajavid | JPT, I have a massive heatsink, 900grams of pure copper with 8 heatpipes and a large gigantic 92mm fan that spins at 4k rpm |
| 05:23.15 | JPT | xD |
| 05:23.17 | ajavid | its 500grams bigger/heavier than what intel recommends |
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| 05:23.42 | JPT | i think we should be happy that it did not blow up yet ;) |
| 05:23.46 | ajavid | a coolermaster hyper48 (called so becasue it was made for a prescott cpu, for 478 socket, but it also works on lga775 socket |
| 05:24.12 | ajavid | dude, we're talking 900grams of copper, thats 100 grams short of 1 kilogram, in fact its 0.9 kilograms man |
| 05:24.16 | ajavid | thats a huge hsf |
| 05:24.57 | iluminator101 | where do i install new kernel to /boot ?? or |
| 05:24.58 | ajavid | so since it was made for netburst prescott intel cpus, it does double wonders on core 2 |
| 05:25.01 | ajavid | :) |
| 05:25.06 | ajavid | iluminator101, you don't |
| 05:25.15 | ajavid | iluminator101, it installs itself. what are you doing? |
| 05:25.32 | iluminator101 | i am installing a new kernel from livecd |
| 05:25.37 | ajavid | iluminator101, why? |
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| 05:25.55 | iluminator101 | b/z old kernel does not read ext4 |
| 05:26.05 | ajavid | you're on debian stable? |
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| 05:26.12 | iluminator101 | squeeze |
| 05:26.29 | ajavid | iluminator101, why don't you just install the .30 kernel from sid |
| 05:26.30 | ajavid | ? |
| 05:26.52 | ajavid | judd versions linux-image-2.6 |
| 05:26.54 | judd | ajavid: linux-image-2.6 -- |
| 05:26.56 | ajavid | doh |
| 05:27.17 | ajavid | judd versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 05:27.18 | judd | ajavid: linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 squeeze: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 sid: 2.6.30+20 |
| 05:27.39 | iluminator101 | well if i login in then my $home will be moved to root's home and it will mess up the permissions |
| 05:27.45 | ajavid | iluminator101, to get a new kenel you don't need a live cd |
| 05:27.54 | ajavid | iluminator101, so don't login as user |
| 05:28.09 | ajavid | iluminator101, boot system, login as root, so it stays in root, I'm guessing your /home is ext4 right? |
| 05:28.19 | iluminator101 | yea |
| 05:28.21 | ajavid | iluminator101, so after that simply get the .30 kernel from sid |
| 05:28.32 | iluminator101 | but debian wont allow me to login as root |
| 05:28.33 | ajavid | iluminator101, then reboot with the .30 kernel and login as root again |
| 05:28.41 | ajavid | iluminator101, can you get in as single user mode? |
| 05:28.50 | iluminator101 | yes |
| 05:28.56 | ajavid | iluminator101, get in as a single user mode, and when in, type passwd to change the root password |
| 05:29.06 | ajavid | that will set a root password and enable root login |
| 05:29.31 | ajavid | iluminator101, this is what I do, I have a ext4 /home |
| 05:30.18 | devurandom | ajavid: How does he get just the kernel from Sid? |
| 05:30.25 | iluminator101 | why do you need to change root passwd |
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| 05:30.31 | devurandom | (without also getting everything else) |
| 05:30.36 | ajavid | iluminator101, 1) install debian stable. 2) upgrade kernel to .29/.30 from backports) -- in your case you can install the .30 from sid 3) reboot with the new kernel 4) login as root and edit /etc/fstab and mount /home as ext4, logout, and login as user |
| 05:31.06 | ajavid | devurandom, add a sid repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list and update and aptitude install linux-image-2.6.30 |
| 05:31.31 | devurandom | ajavid: But next time running full-upgrade will update everything to Sid, wont it? |
| 05:31.52 | ajavid | devurandom, you don't have to change rootpassword, but if you can't get in as user, you can't use sudo, and you have to be able to login as root, which means setting a root password so you CAN login as root |
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| 05:32.09 | ajavid | devurandom, after you install the kernel from sid, remvoe/comment out the sid repository |
| 05:32.12 | devurandom | That was @judd. |
| 05:32.52 | devurandom | ajavid: Oh, that works? And do I not have to keep that package up to date in case of security issues, etc? |
| 05:32.55 | ajavid | squeeze and sid are very very close, and simply using a kernel compiled on sid on squeeze will not cuase problems |
| 05:32.59 | ajavid | devurandom, it depends on the package |
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| 05:33.13 | devurandom | My case is the webbrowser midori. |
| 05:33.36 | ajavid | iluminator101, actually, why don't you just build a new kernel yourself |
| 05:33.42 | devurandom | ajavid: Do you know of a way that will keep that one package up to date, too? |
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| 05:34.47 | ajavid | iluminator101, just login as root, and install kernel-pacakge, download linux source, unpack to /usr/src/linux, go there, make menuconfig (or download a .30 .config from debian's kernel site) use it and make-kpkg on your kernel |
| 05:34.58 | ajavid | iluminator101, copule of different ways to go about it |
| 05:35.14 | ajavid | iluminator101, though afaik, you don't need to muck about with a live cd |
| 05:35.28 | ajavid | !tell iluminator101 about kernel compile |
| 05:35.53 | ajavid | devurandom, what are you trying to do with midori, can you tell me your setup? |
| 05:36.34 | devurandom | ajavid: Firefox is too slow. It takes ages to switch tabs when they contain a few images, and such things. |
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| 05:36.43 | ajavid | devurandom, tried 3.5? |
| 05:36.52 | devurandom | ajavid: Thus I am searching for a faster and more lightweight solution. |
| 05:36.53 | ajavid | devurandom, it doesn't have that problem anymore (at least not for me) |
| 05:36.59 | ajavid | dillo |
| 05:37.03 | devurandom | ajavid: Is it in squeeze already? |
| 05:37.07 | ajavid | devurandom, nope |
| 05:37.29 | ajavid | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre) Gecko/20090702 Shiretoko/3.5 GTB5 |
| 05:37.30 | devurandom | So it basically has the same issue as midori: Only available from Sid. :( |
| 05:38.11 | ajavid | I'm using Shiretoko 3.5pre1 (updated today) with like 50+ addons (really heavy addons too) and like 30+ tabs open with tons of javascript and images and flash videos |
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| 05:38.17 | ajavid | I can switch the tab and its instantaneous |
| 05:38.20 | devurandom | ajavid: dillo is another browser? It does not seem to be in Debian at all. |
| 05:38.28 | ajavid | judd versions dillo |
| 05:38.28 | judd | ajavid: dillo -- etch: 0.8.5-4.1 sid: 0.8.6-3 |
| 05:38.43 | ajavid | oldstable and unstable only |
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| 05:39.40 | ajavid | devurandom, what I do is this |
| 05:39.48 | JTran | I'm trying to read the man page for libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, but man libapache2-mod-auth-mysql doesn't work. Any ideas? |
| 05:39.48 | ajavid | devurandom, I keep like 2 firefox windows open |
| 05:39.53 | devurandom | Hm... It seems midori just entered squeeze? I swear it was not available yesterday... |
| 05:40.04 | ajavid | devurandom, I have launch each firefox shortcut with -P for profile |
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| 05:40.40 | ajavid | I have iceweasel 3.0.11 with 2 or 3 light addons, default debian built of amd64, only used for information browsing, research, etc. etc. |
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| 05:41.34 | arewenothorses | Hi, I would like to get one package the newest version of which is available on squeeze/sid repos only, should I replace lenny entries in sources.list or simply add squeeze ones and apt-get would automatically fetch the newest version? |
| 05:41.35 | ajavid | I have shiretoko 3.5pre1 on a diff profile working simultaneously with iceweasel 3.0.11 and this profile has like 50+ addons, web dev, youtubing, video downloading, book mark managers, radios, online mp3 palyers, you name it |
| 05:41.48 | ajavid | devurandom, I keep two diff firefoxes for two diff tasks |
| 05:41.59 | ajavid | both are fast enoug, but iceweasel is faster |
| 05:42.07 | devurandom | But what is the point of having two? |
| 05:42.08 | ajavid | shiretoko is a bit slower but becasue of so much stuff |
| 05:42.16 | ajavid | devurandom, are you serious? |
| 05:42.21 | ajavid | devurandom, I just told you that |
| 05:42.24 | ajavid | like 1 minute ago |
| 05:42.27 | ajavid | literally |
| 05:42.32 | devurandom | sec... |
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| 05:42.51 | devurandom | You mean because of the addons 3.5 is slower than 3.0? |
| 05:42.55 | ajavid | arewenothorses, /msg dpkg backports |
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| 05:43.05 | ajavid | devurandom, yup |
| 05:43.08 | devurandom | But without them, 3.5 would be faster? |
| 05:43.14 | ajavid | naked firefox is always faster tha non naked firefox |
| 05:43.22 | ajavid | its not anything to do with 3.0 vs 3.5 |
| 05:43.23 | devurandom | Makes sense somehow. |
| 05:43.26 | ajavid | if anything 3.5 is much faster |
| 05:44.29 | arewenothorses | ajavid: Thanks, but the page http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html dpkg bot give me renders "Forbidden" error. =( |
| 05:44.41 | devurandom | ajavid: I'll try it when it becomes available. |
| 05:44.48 | arewenothorses | I know what to Google now though. |
| 05:44.59 | devurandom | For now I'll have a look at Dillo, I guess. |
| 05:45.04 | ajavid | arewenothorses, backports.org |
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| 05:45.15 | ajavid | arewenothorses, if your software is not already backproted you can do it yourself easily |
| 05:45.19 | ajavid | !ssb |
| 05:45.19 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 05:45.22 | devurandom | I do not need any addons or such convenience. I only use it for information retrieval. |
| 05:45.37 | ajavid | devurandom, if you only need to hunt for info |
| 05:45.42 | ajavid | devurandom, links2 -g |
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| 05:45.57 | devurandom | Haha... |
| 05:46.11 | devurandom | Its a fine browser, but just a little bit too minimalistic. |
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| 05:46.22 | k-man | how do you edit the |
| 05:46.30 | devurandom | I am usually having a few tabs open, flickr and such included. |
| 05:46.48 | k-man | oops - try again. How do you edit the "Full Name" for a user after creating the user using adduser? |
| 05:47.10 | devurandom | k-man: "nano /etc/passwd" I would use. |
| 05:47.45 | arewenothorses | ajavid: Thanks, the package hasn't been backported yet (transmission-daemon), so will follow the instructions above. |
| 05:47.51 | k-man | davyg: oh, ok, thanks |
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| 05:48.30 | devurandom | k-man: Search for the username using ^W and then edit the 5th field. |
| 05:49.40 | k-man | devurandom: yeah, thanks found it. i should have known it as stored in /etc/passwd but for some reason it slipped my mind |
| 05:49.41 | iluminator101 | ajavid:so you are saying i can login as root in single user mode |
| 05:49.43 | davyg | Someone spoke to me ? |
| 05:49.51 | ajavid | iluminator101, yes |
| 05:49.58 | iluminator101 | k |
| 05:50.05 | iluminator101 | thanks |
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| 05:50.35 | ajavid | davyg, huh? |
| 05:51.03 | ajavid | ajavid:x:1000:1000:Atir Javid Khan,,,:/home/ajavid:/bin/bash |
| 05:51.17 | Xhema | how do I get the installer to load from USB? |
| 05:51.24 | ajavid | !usb install |
| 05:51.25 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/) |
| 05:51.27 | davyg | [07:47] <k-man> davyg: oh, ok, thanks |
| 05:51.30 | davyg | ^^ |
| 05:51.35 | ajavid | davyg, misfire |
| 05:51.43 | Xhema | i am booted from usb. thansk ajavid |
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| 05:51.44 | ajavid | davyg, william e davyg |
| 05:52.04 | ajavid | Xhema, Xhema> how do I get the installer to load from USB? |
| 05:52.09 | ajavid | ? what are you trying to do? |
| 05:52.21 | ajavid | what which step are you? can't find iso? |
| 05:52.24 | ajavid | can't mount iso? |
| 05:52.27 | Xhema | ajavid i am booted. Now how can i recognise the drivers. It only looks for the CDrom |
| 05:52.28 | ajavid | what? |
| 05:52.41 | ajavid | Xhema, do you HAVE to isntall from usb? |
| 05:52.41 | Xhema | yes, i have the business card iso on my usb |
| 05:52.45 | k-man | davyg: oh, sorry - stupid tab completion of name and I replied to the wrong person |
| 05:52.49 | devurandom | ajavid: Thanks for your help! |
| 05:52.53 | ajavid | devurandom, np |
| 05:52.59 | Xhema | I have loaded the graphical installer |
| 05:53.08 | Xhema | but i cannot load the drivers |
| 05:53.10 | ajavid | Xhema, do you have any particular need to install via usb? |
| 05:53.20 | ajavid | Xhema, why can't you install from a downloaded iso burned to cd? |
| 05:53.23 | Xhema | ajavid, i can |
| 05:53.27 | Xhema | theoretically |
| 05:53.28 | ajavid | then do so |
| 05:53.32 | Xhema | hmmmm |
| 05:53.34 | ajavid | don't unneccesirly complicate thigns |
| 05:53.45 | ajavid | i can't spell either. |
| 05:53.46 | Xhema | it works on ubuntu.... :( |
| 05:54.06 | Xhema | bad spellers of the world : UNTIE |
| 05:54.09 | ajavid | im out of energy, its 1 am |
| 05:54.16 | Xhema | no worries. |
| 05:54.16 | ajavid | untie! lol |
| 05:54.20 | Xhema | good night |
| 05:54.27 | Xhema | i just got up |
| 05:54.34 | Xhema | i have this stupid old hardware |
| 05:54.45 | Xhema | the network card does not support ipv6 |
| 05:54.54 | Xhema | thus ubuntu is failing to use the network |
| 05:54.55 | JPT | ? |
| 05:55.03 | JPT | network cards support protocolls? |
| 05:55.04 | ajavid | nic... ipv6? |
| 05:55.06 | ajavid | wtf are you on about? |
| 05:55.11 | Xhema | so i wanted to use debian, cause i know it s more flexible |
| 05:55.12 | JPT | -l |
| 05:55.23 | Xhema | well, the old network card does not support the ipv6 |
| 05:55.28 | Xhema | drivers. |
| 05:55.33 | Xhema | did you not know? |
| 05:55.35 | devurandom | Xhema: The kernel supports ipv6, not the hardware. |
| 05:55.37 | JPT | i never checked any network card for ipv4, netbios, ipx or any other support |
| 05:55.42 | ajavid | takes away Xhema's crack pipe |
| 05:55.47 | ajavid | :D |
| 05:56.02 | JPT | gimme the phat crack pipe |
| 05:57.15 | Xhema | wait |
| 05:57.20 | Xhema | it is true guys |
| 05:57.22 | Xhema | let me find the bug |
| 05:57.28 | Xhema | ajavid, no crack here |
| 05:57.54 | JPT | i could run ipv6 on this old isa-network card |
| 05:57.55 | Xhema | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/glibc/+bug/313218 |
| 05:58.06 | Xhema | the network runs |
| 05:58.12 | JPT | but slow? |
| 05:58.14 | Xhema | but only can connect to google LOL |
| 05:58.16 | JPT | well...it's a bug |
| 05:58.23 | Xhema | everything else takes forever |
| 05:58.27 | Xhema | nothing works basically |
| 05:58.48 | Xhema | so i want an older more compatible version |
| 05:59.01 | Xhema | i figured that debian has the most stable software |
| 05:59.08 | Xhema | and i have always used it before |
| 05:59.22 | Xhema | so, i am willing to put the work into getting the installer to run from usb |
| 05:59.28 | Xhema | if i have to do that |
| 05:59.45 | Xhema | cause i like the idea of a 30 mb usb bootloader with a netinstall |
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| 06:01.04 | Xhema | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-live@lists.debian.org/msg02184.html |
| 06:01.08 | Xhema | here seems to be a patch |
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| 06:06.39 | maxaga | hi |
| 06:07.02 | maxaga | do you know of a command to check if there's a PCI-E port in a server ? |
| 06:07.26 | Xhema | lspci? |
| 06:09.34 | maxaga | Xhema, lspci only returns installed hardware, no? |
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| 06:12.05 | Xhema | yes |
| 06:12.22 | Xhema | ok |
| 06:12.26 | Xhema | i have the usb mounted |
| 06:12.32 | Xhema | but have no dpkg in the installer |
| 06:12.35 | Xhema | busybox. |
| 06:12.43 | Xhema | how can i unpack the modules... |
| 06:12.48 | n3kl__ | For some reason I don't have ar installed. Where can I get this? |
| 06:12.53 | Xhema | i need the sis module |
| 06:14.18 | mischief | n3kl__, binutils i think. |
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| 06:14.33 | n3kl__ | sweet |
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| 06:14.35 | Parrot | umm |
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| 06:15.50 | Parrot | roger klotz |
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| 06:16.34 | Xhema | slaps Parrot |
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| 06:17.14 | Parrot | nigger |
| 06:17.21 | Parrot | fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger fat nigger |
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| 06:18.08 | avu | !ops parrot having tourette's |
| 06:18.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: avu complains about: parrot having tourette's |
| 06:18.18 | Parrot | !ops avu is a faggot |
| 06:18.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: parrot complains about: avu is a faggot |
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| 06:18.58 | mischief | very naise. |
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| 06:22.58 | Xhema | hahah |
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| 06:23.17 | Xhema | ok, i have mounted the usb as /cdrom najse! |
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| 06:29.32 | Xhema | ok |
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| 06:30.57 | Xhema | got it |
| 06:31.10 | Xhema | had to mv the /cdrom/dists/lenny to stable |
| 06:31.16 | Xhema | now the installer finds the files |
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| 06:31.45 | Vonor | morning |
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| 06:32.31 | Xhema | it found the ethernet card |
| 06:32.32 | Xhema | nice |
| 06:32.34 | Vonor | i have a little issue with dhcpd, i issued "option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;" and it doesn't get set on the client |
| 06:33.29 | Xhema | ajavid, it works! |
| 06:33.31 | mischief | Vonor, did you renew the lease on the clients? |
| 06:34.30 | Vonor | mischief, since the client is a thin client i had it powered off while i was working on the server, so yeah the lease got renewed (since other options like gateways were set correctly) |
| 06:35.20 | Xhema | ok |
| 06:35.23 | Xhema | got the ssh client attached |
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| 06:36.43 | Xhema | and downloading the release file |
| 06:36.45 | Xhema | ! |
| 06:36.52 | Xhema | is happy |
| 06:38.41 | Xhema | debian netinstall from usb: mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /cdrom . Then mv cdrom/dist/lenny to stable. Installer is happy. w00t! |
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| 06:47.52 | mischief | like /dev/sda3 be /tmp and /var/tmp for example |
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| 07:09.22 | ward- | is xen fully supported bu the latest stable debian? |
| 07:09.51 | ajavid | yes |
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| 07:10.01 | ward- | ajavid also a kernel right? |
| 07:10.03 | ward- | just making sure |
| 07:10.05 | ajavid | yes |
| 07:10.09 | ward- | ok thanx :) |
| 07:10.12 | ajavid | look at wiki |
| 07:10.14 | ajavid | !xen |
| 07:10.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen, although compatibility is maintained for user applications. Xen achieves high performance virtualisation without special hardware support. For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 07:10.42 | ward- | ajavid yes i did that but everybody seems to hate xen and love KVM even though KVM is MUCH slower |
| 07:10.52 | ward- | just wanted to make sure before i installed debian |
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| 07:11.37 | bawok | heloo, itry install tar but why said E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 07:12.52 | Wyzard | bawok: because dpkg ran into some sort of problem while trying to install the package |
| 07:13.01 | Wyzard | bawok: There should be another message (from dpkg itself) earlier in the output |
| 07:13.12 | Vonor | while we are at xen, whats the difference between xen and citrix XenServer? |
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| 07:14.33 | bawok | Wyzard : thanks for responses , first the eror on my box is all command i run says segmentation fault . tar include on this , so i reinstall the tar , and i install again and says like this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) , so what i do for fixed my root , thanks |
| 07:14.35 | liable | i wouldnt touch citrix if you offered me a million dollars. have it at work, it stinks. |
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| 07:15.32 | Wyzard | bawok: If every program crashes with a segmentation fault, the problem isn't with the individual programs (such as tar), and reinstalling them won't help |
| 07:15.51 | Xhema | ok guys. |
| 07:16.19 | Wyzard | bawok: and if dpkg is failing, maybe it's crashing with a segmentation fault too |
| 07:16.32 | Xhema | I am still having problems with the network. I can ssh and wget some things. but others no |
| 07:16.38 | bawok | Wyzard : yes dpkg is said failing |
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| 07:16.49 | liable | bawok: are you running unstable? if everything is segfaulting, sounds like a libc6 or hardware problem. tried running memtest? |
| 07:17.33 | Wyzard | liable: I've been running unstable for years, both i386 and amd64, and have never had problems like that |
| 07:17.34 | Xhema | i can connect locallay |
| 07:17.44 | Wyzard | bawok: Either you have hardware problems or your Debian installation is severely broken |
| 07:17.51 | Xhema | maybe i should create a local mirror |
| 07:17.53 | liable | Wyzard: me too, doesn't mean it cant happen though. |
| 07:17.57 | Xhema | and then it would work... |
| 07:18.21 | durre | I'm gonna have to panic buy a server. don't know much about hardware or linux (good combo, eh?). anyways. I think it's gonna be a dell poweredge R300 XE X3330, that's gonna be running debian etch. is there a list of supported systems for etch? the raid controller was the main concern |
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| 07:18.39 | bpun | durre, see wiki, etch is outdated |
| 07:18.42 | Traveler4 | hey anyone know where i can read about securing GNU/linux or debian, and setting up a machine for a public access/paid shells machine? |
| 07:18.52 | Wyzard | bawok: Don't PM people asking them to log into your computer |
| 07:18.57 | bpun | Traveler4, paid shells for open source? my ass |
| 07:19.21 | Traveler4 | bpun uh what you mean |
| 07:19.31 | Wyzard | bawok: Don't offer strangers logins on your computer under any circumstances, actually |
| 07:19.41 | bpun | Traveler4, u wanna make a buck out of open source.. why not head ur head into ur butt |
| 07:19.52 | durre | bpun: I know, but we ran in to alot of problems when installing lenny on the previous server, and with etch it worked perfectly. and I'm not good enough to fix the problems |
| 07:20.17 | bpun | durre, etch is outdated.. |
| 07:20.20 | Traveler4 | bpun uhh..why not :/? it would be my server time they are using, that's what they are paying for |
| 07:20.21 | bawok | Wyzard : thanks but i dont know how to fix my problems |
| 07:20.24 | bpun | durre, u can use updates repos |
| 07:20.39 | bpun | Traveler4, dunno about that |
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| 07:21.07 | Wyzard | bawok: Run memtest86 as liable suggested, and also check whether your computer is overheating |
| 07:21.13 | bpun | Traveler4, u want advice? give me money then we can talk.. maybe like a couple of grand just for an appointment |
| 07:21.34 | Traveler4 | bpun if you aren't going to help don't talk to me :x |
| 07:21.39 | bpun | Traveler4, we're not here to make u rich dummy.. this is an volunteer based initiative.. |
| 07:21.51 | bpun | so shoo |
| 07:21.52 | liable | bpun: why are you here if you demand payment for advice? |
| 07:21.52 | bpun | ! |
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| 07:22.28 | jelly-home | judd: versions iceweasel |
| 07:22.29 | judd | jelly-home: iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 lenny: 3.0.6-1 squeeze: 3.0.9-1 sid: 3.0.11-1 |
| 07:22.33 | Wyzard | bawok: Boot a liveCD of some sort and see if that has similar problems (if so, it's your machine, not your Debian installation) |
| 07:22.34 | Traveler4 | bpun i asked about how to set up a public access machine as well, which would be a 'free' service you know |
| 07:23.13 | bpun | ^^ -_- |
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| 07:24.41 | jelly-home | Traveler4: shells account machines are similar to shared web hosting machines, only without the web hosting. You might want to point your search efforts that way. |
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| 07:26.01 | Traveler4 | jelly-home well, the primary things i am looking for would be securing of access rights, making sure the free users cannot do certain things like ssh -D, use things like netcat or something |
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| 07:36.05 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 07:39.26 | superlinux | i want to join a silent video file with an audio file. when both files merge the output will make the video file not silent. which program do you recommend? |
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| 07:50.08 | ward- | superlinux mencoder: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2005-November/056447.html |
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| 07:50.17 | superlinux | ok |
| 07:50.26 | Supaplex | http://paste.debian.net/40875/ unable to set password on a user, or delete them. suggestions? |
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| 07:50.40 | Supaplex | tries strace just to see one other possibility |
| 07:50.48 | superlinux | KEWL!!! |
| 07:50.52 | superlinux | ward-, thanks! |
| 07:51.08 | superlinux | you saved me heaps of troubles and money |
| 07:51.52 | ward- | superlinux lol no problem, do yu also need to do actual editing? |
| 07:52.03 | superlinux | na! |
| 07:52.07 | ward- | ok :) |
| 07:52.17 | superlinux | i am recording a tutorial |
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| 07:52.26 | superlinux | but i have a slow GPU |
| 07:52.42 | superlinux | and recordmydesktop is not working smoothly |
| 07:52.59 | superlinux | i thing two threads are a must in the program |
| 07:53.02 | ward- | there's also this prog that records it into a animated gif, that was much lighte |
| 07:53.03 | ward- | r |
| 07:53.18 | ward- | only 256 colors though, but good quality and framerate |
| 07:53.23 | ward- | i forgot the name of the prob... |
| 07:53.24 | superlinux | aha |
| 07:53.25 | ward- | prog |
| 07:53.25 | superlinux | ok |
| 07:53.35 | ward- | maybe someone around here knows the name |
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| 07:54.01 | superlinux | i think i found it somewhere in apt |
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| 07:54.13 | ward- | thats where i found it back then |
| 07:54.21 | ward- | worked nice on my old comp |
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| 07:55.54 | superlinux | byzanz |
| 07:56.01 | superlinux | thats the name |
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| 07:57.04 | hoo-hah | hi guys, squeeze upgrade recently toyed with my /etc/hosts, adding ipv6 entries aliased to localhost |
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| 07:57.09 | hoo-hah | is there a way to find offending package that decided to do this? |
| 07:57.44 | Supaplex | ahh. I cloned my user password for the problem user in shadow. now I can change the password. how fubared is that? :P |
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| 07:59.46 | gasull | Hi. How do I install wxwidgets? What packages should I install? Thank you. |
| 08:00.20 | mischief | gasull, aptitude search "wigets dev" or something. |
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| 08:03.08 | gasull | mischief: thanks. I managed to do it. There were so many packages that I was confused. |
| 08:03.38 | mischief | indubitably. |
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| 08:07.58 | gasull | I'm trying to install a program from source code. Why do I get this error while running make? http://dpaste.com/62799/ Thank you. |
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| 08:12.52 | beli | hi someone here using symfony on debian etch? trying to install symfony via php-pear it tells me that >=php5.2.4 is needed.... |
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| 08:21.09 | RaymondX | hi do you know of a webapp that runs wget on a server? just like torrentflux runs bittornado? |
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| 08:22.10 | RaymondX | TESTING |
| 08:22.16 | iluminator101 | Hi, How would i downgrade from sid but leaving kernel 2.6.30 intact? |
| 08:22.28 | ajavid | iluminator101, you dont |
| 08:22.37 | ajavid | !downgrade |
| 08:22.37 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
| 08:23.01 | enouf | gasull: i know nothing about wxwidgets and such, but you certainly don't need sudo to run make - 'install' is the only thing that needs root perm, and maybe not for /home crap |
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| 08:23.44 | ajavid | make install only needs root if installing to a prefix where root perm is needed |
| 08:23.50 | iluminator101 | i want downgrade back testing from sid |
| 08:24.02 | ajavid | iluminator101, /msg dpkg pinning |
| 08:24.03 | enouf | gasull: line 34 in file window_menu_updater.hpp is causing the first error, afaict |
| 08:24.11 | gasull | enouf, ajavid: I'll keep it in mind. thanks. |
| 08:24.59 | ajavid | gasull, what are you trying to build |
| 08:25.08 | enouf | ajavid: there's more than one --prefix= |
| 08:25.19 | gasull | ajavid: http://timeit.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:25.27 | enouf | there's eprefix= and libpaths, etc etc |
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| 08:25.40 | RaymondX | trap: 3: SIGTERM: bad trap |
| 08:25.59 | RaymondX | im getting that message whenever im running wget |
| 08:26.05 | iluminator101 | how do i remove evolution without taking down the whole system |
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| 08:27.43 | iluminator101 | so this command keep-all does that remove metatags or...??? |
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| 08:28.39 | sylar | can someone explain to me what version is "1:1.0.15-2.3" |
| 08:30.16 | enouf | sylar: the 1: == epoch |
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| 08:30.35 | enouf | sylar: 1.0.15-2.3 is the version |
| 08:31.09 | sylar | enouf, thanks |
| 08:31.30 | enouf | sylar: /msg dpkg epoch (if you like) |
| 08:32.00 | sylar | enouf, I did |
| 08:32.11 | sylar | thanks |
| 08:32.20 | sylar | seem like my dovecot version is old |
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| 08:32.27 | sylar | ... |
| 08:32.39 | sylar | like most things in stable |
| 08:32.48 | enouf | !bpo |
| 08:32.48 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
| 08:33.18 | ajavid | gasull, hang on |
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| 08:34.08 | jelly | sylar: it'll be something like upstream 1.0.15 (strip away the epoch: and the debian revision -2.3), but check the doc files and see if your app has a --version option |
| 08:34.18 | gasull | ajavid: yeah, I'm giving up |
| 08:34.31 | meder | When setting up Bind, at one point I have to specify my ISP's nameservers - I'm a bit confused on why and how this works. Is this referring to the nameservers of my actual public IP address? And for what purpose are they used for? |
| 08:34.40 | sylar | jelly, it is a daemon |
| 08:34.53 | sylar | anyway I see it in backports |
| 08:35.11 | sylar | scratch his head thinking if backports are safe enough |
| 08:35.12 | enouf | gasull: what does this output say is set as Default? sudo update-alternatives --config automake |
| 08:35.15 | iluminator101 | How do i remove evolution without removing the all the attached packages with it? |
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| 08:35.57 | jelly | sylar: daemons may also have --version, it's not forbidden |
| 08:36.09 | gasull | enouf: No alternatives for automake. |
| 08:36.22 | enouf | iluminator101: use /msg dpkg unmarkauto ? set the others as manually installed |
| 08:36.25 | jelly | sylar: fwiw, I haven't had many problems with stuff from backports.org |
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| 08:37.00 | sylar | k |
| 08:37.40 | enouf | gasull: hrm .. well, you do have a make version, what's dpkg -l automake | grep ^.i say ? |
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| 08:38.08 | enouf | gasull: er dpkg -l automake* | grep ^.i say ? |
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| 08:39.12 | iluminator101 | enouf: so i install unmarkauto??? |
| 08:39.18 | enouf | gasull: did you 1st run a ./configure ? prior to the make? |
| 08:39.24 | Gryfelhase | Hi.... I've installed debian several times since sarge on diffrent computers/virtual machines.... but this times installing X makes me crazy.... It installed with a EMPTY /etc/xorg.conf |
| 08:39.32 | enouf | iluminator101: no, in your irc client |
| 08:39.45 | enouf | !tell iluminator101 -about unmarkauto |
| 08:39.45 | gasull | iluminator101: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39045#p229130 |
| 08:39.47 | Gryfelhase | I am using lenny... any hints ? |
| 08:40.16 | enouf | Gryfelhase: it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 08:40.27 | enouf | !hal |
| 08:40.27 | dpkg | HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is freedesktop.org project, which gives desktop software a programmatic way to examine present hardware and be notified of its changes. http://wiki.debian.org/hal http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HalFAQ http://hal.freedesktop.org/ #hal on irc.freenode.net. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
| 08:40.36 | enouf | Gryfelhase: see the last URL there |
| 08:40.37 | Gryfelhase | aeh.... yes, I mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf of course |
| 08:40.42 | gasull | enouf: No packages found matching automake. |
| 08:41.07 | enouf | Gryfelhase: X -configure will generate a minimal file - then man xorg.conf ; man <your-video-driver-name> |
| 08:41.32 | gasull | enouf: Yes I run ./configure 1st. It seems I need to install automake. Right? |
| 08:41.58 | enouf | gasull: well ... did you grab source from cvs / |
| 08:42.01 | enouf | ? |
| 08:42.43 | iluminator101 | how do i make a boot image of my current system this way i can go back to if anything goes haywire? |
| 08:43.05 | gasull | enouf: No I got from the developer snapshots that are in the page. Should I get the cvs code instead? |
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| 08:43.48 | enouf | gasull: i presume http://timeit.sourceforge.net/snapshots/timeitnow-0.1.4.tar.gz ? if so, it says Developer's snapshots are built during development process and are intended for testing purposes only. |
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| 08:44.13 | Vonor | oh man...i use virtualbox to host an ltsp server and an ltsp client, both are debian lenny, can't install the quest additions due to kernel 2.6.26 which comes with lenny and vbox requires 2.6.27 at the minimum |
| 08:44.52 | jelly | Vonor: there are newer kernels in backports.org |
| 08:44.54 | gasull | enouf: OK. I'm gonna try with cvs |
| 08:45.06 | Vonor | jelly, thanks for the info |
| 08:45.09 | enouf | gasull: though i would guess the cvs is live for devs to upload/alter, whereas the snapshots are atleast a certain specific _point in time_ |
| 08:45.15 | gasull | iluminator101: I use rdiff-backup |
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| 08:45.20 | gasull | !backup |
| 08:45.20 | dpkg | i guess backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use <tar> (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression), or <lolcat1> |
| 08:45.24 | ajavid | gasull, nothing you can do |
| 08:45.27 | ajavid | gasull, source is broken |
| 08:45.31 | gasull | !what to backup |
| 08:45.52 | enouf | gasull: listen to ajavid about that |
| 08:46.19 | ajavid | gasull, this project is in very early development |
| 08:46.25 | gasull | enouf, ajavid: yes, it seems so :-( thank you. I'll forget about it |
| 08:46.53 | enouf | ajavid: do you think the dev snapshots are the same/newer/older than the cvs source? |
| 08:46.54 | ajavid | there are a bunch of include files commented out which are actually needed to build this |
| 08:47.05 | ajavid | cvs source doesn't work, its broken |
| 08:47.10 | enouf | ugh |
| 08:47.20 | gasull | How do you get the bot to explain to iluminator101 what directories he should backup? Someone did it for me the other day. |
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| 08:47.39 | ajavid | !dws |
| 08:47.39 | enouf | !listvals backup |
| 08:47.39 | dpkg | well, dws is Dripping With Sarcasm |
| 08:47.41 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'backup' by value (15 of 54): "where will i go when i die" ;; afbackup ;; afbackup-client ;; afbackup-i ;; backup d-i images #del# ;; backupcentral ;; databackup ;; debian clone ;; drive bay ;; ntfsclone ;; rdiff-backup ;; rikkus.sourceforge.net ;; save the world ;; tape backups ;; zimnyx. |
| 08:47.44 | ajavid | doh |
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| 08:48.00 | jelly | !things to backup |
| 08:48.00 | dpkg | A list of some of the things you should back up on your box is: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor this list to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/spool/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf ... |
| 08:48.04 | jelly | possibly. |
| 08:48.09 | enouf | gasull: you use "!tell <nickname> about <factoid>" |
| 08:48.10 | ajavid | http://dpkg.vireo.org/factoid.php?key=things%20to%20backup |
| 08:48.10 | gasull | jelly: thanks |
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| 08:48.23 | ajavid | !dpkgbot |
| 08:48.23 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also see <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 08:48.31 | ajavid | !dpkg.web.search |
| 08:48.31 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys>, <help-listvals> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 08:48.39 | gasull | !tell iluminator101 about what to backup |
| 08:48.48 | enouf | !listkeys backup |
| 08:48.49 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'backup' by key (15 of 24): _default afbackup ;; _default backup ;; afbackup-client ;; afbackup-client-i ;; afbackup-i ;; backup d-i images #del# ;; backup mbr ;; backupcentral ;; databackup ;; linus' advice on backups ;; rdiff-backup ;; rsync backup ;; tape backup ;; tape backups ;; things to backup. |
| 08:48.56 | jelly | gasull: "things to backup" |
| 08:49.03 | enouf | last one there |
| 08:49.07 | gasull | !tell iluminator101 about things to backup |
| 08:49.19 | jelly | dpkg: what to backup is <reply>see things to backup |
| 08:49.20 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
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| 08:49.49 | jelly | ... because that was my first idea, too |
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| 08:49.58 | infinity0 | ipcheck or ddclient? |
| 08:50.11 | ajavid | infinity0, check router |
| 08:50.18 | iluminator101 | I was talking about making a boot disk using this kernel 2.6.30 a bootcd |
| 08:50.22 | ajavid | router may directly support (if you don't have a router, ddclient) |
| 08:50.34 | infinity0 | ah ok ddclient it is then |
| 08:50.39 | infinity0 | i move this computer between routers |
| 08:50.42 | enouf | iluminator101: see bootcd package perhaps |
| 08:50.54 | ajavid | my router wrt54gl has dyndns.com built in |
| 08:50.54 | infinity0 | ajavid: any particular reason? |
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| 08:51.13 | ajavid | I use ddclient becuase dyndns.com recommends it |
| 08:51.20 | ajavid | I use dyndns |
| 08:51.25 | infinity0 | oh, ok |
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| 08:53.44 | ajavid | goosebumps |
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| 08:53.50 | ajavid | brrrrr its cold in here |
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| 08:58.56 | _Brandon_ | hi, anyone knows if there is a nas server like freenas based on debian? |
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| 09:00.53 | cnu | do i need to install some program for cron to me emails? |
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| 09:01.11 | mist | hi |
| 09:01.23 | petemc | cnu: you already should have exim4 to do that |
| 09:02.01 | cnu | petemc, i got no exim4 it seems, but isn't that program kinda big if i only want to send emails? |
| 09:02.19 | petemc | depends on your idea of big |
| 09:02.43 | petemc | its fully featured, but wont be a huge drain on resources |
| 09:02.53 | enouf | cnu: are you using debian? |
| 09:02.58 | bigpresh | cnu: You could look at nullmailer, which is a very simple Sendmail-compatible MTA whose sole purpose is to pass emails to some other box for it to deal with |
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| 09:03.46 | cnu | enouf, yes it was debian last time i checked :p |
| 09:04.00 | cnu | will try nullmailer then, thank you all |
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| 09:04.48 | bigpresh | cnu: Are you the cnu from a certain bouncer project, or someone else? |
| 09:04.59 | cnu | bigpresh, ofc i am :> |
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| 09:05.14 | bigpresh | Ah yes, just saw your msg to me - heh, heya :) |
| 09:05.18 | bigpresh | Small Internet |
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| 09:06.00 | enouf | judd: info ssmtp |
| 09:06.01 | judd | enouf: ssmtp (mail): is extra; Version: 2.62-3; Size: 48.9k; Installed: 0k -- extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub |
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| 09:17.47 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | My apologizes.....Ubuntu / Debian / everyting else is my life |
| 09:18.46 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | God. I totally understand. It's just about the bits. Nobody cares. |
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| 09:19.18 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | The bits are the root of my hatred. |
| 09:19.39 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Oh, you al think your free... |
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| 09:19.59 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | but you loose....because deathe is inememnent. |
| 09:20.15 | nkuttler | Bilbo_Ba3gins: do you have any debian related questions? |
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| 09:20.56 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | So, How do I get irssi to run with amarock? |
| 09:20.58 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | LOL |
| 09:21.20 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | HACXK ME! |
| 09:21.47 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Pull the noose for me......I will not do it myself. |
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| 09:22.36 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I have irssi running with rythmbox |
| 09:22.41 | Hellscream | slaps Bilbo_Ba3gins around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:22.49 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | LOL |
| 09:22.53 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I like trout |
| 09:22.57 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | tasty |
| 09:23.29 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Why haven't I been banned yet? |
| 09:23.39 | Hellscream | slaps Bilbo_Ba3gins around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:23.48 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | LOL |
| 09:24.33 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I do not want to be banded....just conv with people that have 1/2 a brain |
| 09:24.57 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Trust me....It's not me. |
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| 09:25.13 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | np: Saliva - Razor's Edge (0:33 / 3:22) |
| 09:25.16 | Hellscream | im convinced bilbo ba3gins... |
| 09:25.56 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | np: The Beatles - Hey Jude (0:06 / 7:02) |
| 09:26.06 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Here is the kind of music I lsten to |
| 09:26.21 | Hellscream | death metal probably |
| 09:26.54 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I just have a lot of mp3's that came from 5th parties.... LMFAO |
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| 09:27.13 | Hellscream | go look for Cardiant & sturm und drang |
| 09:28.16 | Gryfelhase | ok... I have a wired problem..... first there was no xorg.conf, after installation lenny).... then I did one with X -configure... I configured x11-common, that console-users can start X. If I use startx I get it up and running now as root, but as user it fails (frequencies out of sync tells me the monitor) |
| 09:28.31 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I'm running irssi right now.....how do I complete it all? I HATE gui's |
| 09:28.48 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | With scro[ts |
| 09:29.06 | Hellscream | format your hd bilbo |
| 09:29.12 | Hellscream | then will be completed |
| 09:29.16 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | but my man ??? is this.. Why debeian and not Gentoo? |
| 09:30.07 | Hellscream | debian me wife, shuss |
| 09:30.21 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | lol |
| 09:30.24 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | :) |
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| 09:31.01 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I'm looking for an old loady too. |
| 09:31.15 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | if you get my meaning. |
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| 09:32.46 | ux | hi all! plz help! i'm using debian 40r7. And trying to add public key |
| 09:32.54 | ux | ~#ifconfig |
| 09:32.55 | ux | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:27:9A:2B:E7 |
| 09:32.55 | ux | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.59 | ux | i'm using proxy |
| 09:33.00 | ux | export http_proxy=http://169.154.0.11:8080/ |
| 09:33.07 | ux | and riceive error |
| 09:33.11 | ux | ~# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 09:33.12 | ux | gpg: requesting key 55BE302B from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net |
| 09:33.12 | ux | gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: eof |
| 09:33.12 | ux | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
| 09:33.12 | ux | gpg: Total number processed: 0 |
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| 09:34.01 | ux | can anyone help me? |
| 09:35.06 | ux | thnx all! |
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| 09:37.34 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | bonjour |
| 09:37.38 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | LOL |
| 09:37.41 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Got it |
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| 09:38.22 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Stop slapping people with large fishes... |
| 09:38.47 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I Love poisson |
| 09:39.03 | bazhang | #debian-offtopic |
| 09:39.06 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | le poisson est bon pour vous |
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| 09:39.15 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | SWEET |
| 09:39.20 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | I LOVE THAT |
| 09:39.56 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | Puis-je avoir vos enfants? |
| 09:40.00 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | LOL |
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| 09:40.11 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | np: The Carpenters - Carpenters - Don't you remember you told me you loved me baby (0:22 / 3:16) |
| 09:40.41 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | por favor? |
| 09:40.42 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | lol |
| 09:41.10 | Bilbo_Ba3gins | sry |
| 09:41.40 | rudi_s | Hi. Is there a way to tell a running tail -f to start at the beginning again. So I can empty the file and when new lines are added tail -f displays them. |
| 09:41.46 | jelly | !ops Bilbo_Ba3gins offtopic over sane limits |
| 09:41.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly complains about: Bilbo_Ba3gins offtopic over sane limits |
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| 09:42.53 | jelly | rudi_s: It's a rtfm. Use --follow=filename |
| 09:43.30 | jelly | rudi_s: works for rotated logs; not sure what happens if you zero-length an existing file |
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| 09:43.50 | rudi_s | jelly: Sorry, I overlooked that in the man page. Thanks for your help. |
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| 09:51.39 | jony123 | what happened their |
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| 09:53.36 | Hellscream | does #debian need a troll? please appoint me then, i am very qualified |
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| 09:54.57 | maligor | There's trollhunters lurking around |
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| 09:57.20 | petemc | kwin? |
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| 10:20.17 | Cynner | Just click on this link, and you will help me get some money in this game, but also you can register in this game and play ;) - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844 |
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| 10:21.05 | bkraptor | how can I change the gnome-terminal tab title within a command? |
| 10:22.05 | \amethyst | bkraptor: xtermset -T foo |
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| 10:23.27 | \amethyst | bkraptor: or xtermcontrol --title foo (each command from the package of the same name) |
| 10:23.57 | bkraptor | \amethyst: thx, works |
| 10:26.00 | \amethyst | bkraptor: it only works, though, if TERM=xterm or something similar... it doesn't work if you've changed to TERM=gnome or TERM=gnome-256color |
| 10:26.29 | bkraptor | it's TERM=xterm, and I haven't changed anything anywhere |
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| 10:30.40 | careta | hello |
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| 10:31.41 | Napkin | Hi |
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| 10:33.43 | Napkin | Since I upgraded from etch to lenny, my exim is preventing quite a few emails because the reverse-dns-lookup of the remote server supposedly failed. but when I check with "host <ip>" reverse-dns seems fine. any idea anyone? |
| 10:34.34 | Napkin | I am running my own bind9, listed as only entry (127.0.0.1) in resolv.conf |
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| 10:37.00 | titosemi | hello!!! i am having a weird problem. I have no free space in my / of 4,6G but i havent so much files! any ideas what could be happening? |
| 10:37.30 | Napkin | titosemi: cd / && du -sk * |
| 10:37.46 | Napkin | that'll list usage in all subfolders |
| 10:37.51 | \amethyst | no it won't |
| 10:37.55 | \amethyst | oh |
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| 10:37.59 | \amethyst | not recursively anyway |
| 10:39.17 | \amethyst | titosemi: I would do du -xk / | sort -n to find the largest directories on the filesystem (they will be printed last) |
| 10:40.24 | Napkin | without -s? you have a big terminal, eh? ;) |
| 10:40.40 | titosemi | http://pastebin.com/m4a014f83 |
| 10:40.50 | titosemi | that is |
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| 10:41.04 | \amethyst | titosemi: that says that only 128 MB are used in / |
| 10:41.19 | titosemi | # df -h |
| 10:41.20 | titosemi | S.ficheros Tamaño Usado Disp Uso% Montado en |
| 10:41.20 | titosemi | tmpfs 1,5G 0 1,5G 0% /lib/init/rw |
| 10:41.20 | titosemi | udev 10M 128K 9,9M 2% /dev |
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| 10:41.54 | titosemi | grr |
| 10:41.56 | titosemi | http://pastebin.com/m16944e17 |
| 10:41.59 | titosemi | :) |
| 10:43.00 | titosemi | but this says otherthing :( |
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| 10:43.06 | \amethyst | did you recently delete something large? |
| 10:43.20 | titosemi | no in / |
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| 10:44.09 | titosemi | its the second time that this happends but the other time was the / of 350Mb |
| 10:44.21 | titosemi | so i decided to create bigger partitions |
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| 10:44.48 | titosemi | but still happens |
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| 10:45.13 | \amethyst | titosemi: if df says there are 4.6 GiB used and du says only 125 MiB, there must be 4.5 GiB of deleted but still open files on / |
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| 10:45.43 | \amethyst | or the reserved-for-root percentage is really high |
| 10:45.59 | titosemi | if i dont remember bad, that was only 5% |
| 10:46.08 | abrotman | or fs corruption |
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| 10:46.19 | titosemi | uhmmm |
| 10:46.23 | titosemi | what should i do? |
| 10:46.28 | Enether | Hello there :) |
| 10:47.02 | titosemi | hello Enether |
| 10:47.05 | neoice | anyone have a clue why proftpd would accept anything as a password? I've tried using PAM and unix auth |
| 10:47.46 | Enether | I've got two problems so I hope a #debian community could help me... nothing serious btw... |
| 10:48.42 | Enether | I'm using Debian 4.0r8 and I'd like to know what path I should write in /etc/apt/source.list to get msttcorefonts... |
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| 10:49.54 | abrotman | !tell Enether about contrib |
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| 10:54.50 | abrotman | Enether: did that work for you? |
| 10:55.04 | Enether | Yes, it helps, thanks |
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| 10:55.27 | Enether | I've got one more question... |
| 10:55.28 | Black_Phantom | Hello, I'm trying to format a ntfs partition to ext3, and then add it to the filesystem ( to increase more storage ) I used Gparted to unmount the ntfs partition so that I can format it, but it asked to unmount it manually. How to do that ? |
| 10:55.58 | Enether | I was searching for a few hours and i couldn't find it... how to change the font size in xterm? |
| 10:56.15 | Enether | xD |
| 10:56.16 | Gratz474 | what is a good messenger? |
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| 10:56.28 | Enether | sry, wrong window |
| 10:56.59 | dazman | debating whether to use debian on an embedded project |
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| 10:57.46 | acemi | www.emdebian.org |
| 10:58.48 | dazman | acemi: yep, although it's still quite young and seems very arm focused.. I've been keeping track of it since it was started. |
| 10:59.00 | abrotman | Enether: permaently ? |
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| 10:59.23 | Enether | abrotman: yes |
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| 11:00.28 | abrotman | Enether: man xterm ... look for the FILES section, i believe it's your .Xdefaults |
| 11:00.43 | Enether | OK, thank you veru much :> |
| 11:00.52 | Enether | Goodbye everyone |
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| 11:02.33 | abrotman | guess that was .Xresources |
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| 11:12.44 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 11:21.07 | zmen01 | hi, i have a script called compress.sh which i would like to have available for my user at all directories |
| 11:21.16 | zmen01 | how can i best make this possible? |
| 11:21.27 | yang | How can I prevent user-wide reading of the user directories ? |
| 11:21.40 | nkuttler | zmen01: i like ~/local/bin, add that to your $PATH |
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| 11:22.04 | \amethyst | yang: chmod o-r /home/* |
| 11:22.24 | nkuttler | yang: might want to -x as well |
| 11:22.37 | yang | chmod o-r-x /home/* |
| 11:22.44 | nkuttler | o-rx |
| 11:22.51 | yang | thanks |
| 11:22.54 | \amethyst | yang: possibly chmod o-rx but then it won't be possible to access files inside those directories at all (e.g. apache can't read ~/public_html/ ) |
| 11:23.16 | nkuttler | well, he asked for directories, not files |
| 11:23.33 | yang | \amethyst: for those who would like to still use the "public_html" I must chmod them to another value |
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| 11:24.05 | \amethyst | yang: yes, those users need o+x |
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| 11:25.05 | zmen01 | nkuttler so for example /home/zmen01/local/bin/compress.sh ? |
| 11:25.17 | \amethyst | for x in /home/*; do chmod o-rw "$x"; [ -d "$x/public_html" ] && chmod o-x "$x"; done |
| 11:26.02 | abrotman | o+x ? |
| 11:26.07 | \amethyst | oops |
| 11:26.10 | \amethyst | for x in /home/*; do chmod o-rw "$x"; [ -d "$x/public_html" ] || chmod o-x "$x"; done |
| 11:26.13 | \amethyst | that's what I meant |
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| 11:26.19 | abrotman | oh .. got it |
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| 11:28.00 | ronr | where on my debian machine should I install custom python modules (ie. those I can't install with apt-get) to keep the system clean and let python be able to find them? |
| 11:28.33 | yang | thanks a lot \amethyst ! |
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| 11:29.38 | Kegeruneku | is away: le jambon de bayonne c'est la sante |
| 11:29.59 | abrotman | !tell Kegeruneku about away |
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| 11:30.54 | zmen01 | in which dir does $PATH get stored? |
| 11:31.14 | zmen01 | or which file |
| 11:31.55 | nkuttler | zmen01: depends on the shell. try ~/.bashrc |
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| 11:33.01 | \amethyst | zmen01: a few places.. /etc/profile, /etc/login.defs, and you can put it in /etc/environment |
| 11:33.21 | \amethyst | zmen01: if you're talking about system-wide |
| 11:33.38 | zmen01 | yes |
| 11:33.57 | \amethyst | zmen01: it depends on how the user is logging in, and with what shell |
| 11:35.37 | zmen01 | i deleted the line path of my .bash_profile |
| 11:35.43 | zmen01 | how should it look again? |
| 11:35.57 | ux | somebody help me! i can't add public key in debian 40r7 |
| 11:36.07 | ux | $ gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 11:36.51 | ux | gpg: requesting key 55BE302B from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net |
| 11:36.52 | ux | gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: eof |
| 11:36.52 | ux | gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. |
| 11:36.52 | ux | gpg: Total number processed: 0 |
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| 11:36.58 | \amethyst | zmen01: look in /etc/skel/.bash_profile for the default .bash_profile |
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| 11:37.10 | zmen01 | \amethyst changed that aswell |
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| 11:38.08 | \amethyst | zmen01: my /etc/skel/.profile contains if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"; fi |
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| 11:38.15 | \amethyst | so it only adds to the existing PATH |
| 11:38.19 | warai | hi, does opengl mode for WOW 3.1.3 work? I'm getting very low fps...since 3.x.x... |
| 11:38.43 | abrotman | warai: since when does world of warcraft run on linux? |
| 11:38.55 | abrotman | or is WOW something else? |
| 11:38.59 | zmen01 | \amethyst so when i want to add ~/local/bin how should that line look like? |
| 11:39.03 | warai | abrotman: Since wine 0.9.46 |
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| 11:39.17 | abrotman | that's not on linux .. and you might want to try #winehq |
| 11:39.29 | warai | I tried already |
| 11:39.32 | warai | No answers |
| 11:39.38 | abrotman | be patient |
| 11:40.41 | xand | SO HUNGRY |
| 11:41.10 | abrotman | dpkg: feed xand |
| 11:41.10 | dpkg | serves up a lovely steak and ale pie to xand. |
| 11:41.23 | xand | no please |
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| 11:41.52 | bartvk | Hi, I tried to install a package with apt-get, but it broke off with an error |
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| 11:42.05 | bartvk | Now when I try to install another package, it says: |
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| 11:42.19 | nkuttler | bartvk: pastebin the error |
| 11:42.20 | Hellscream | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.25 | bartvk | The following packages have unmet dependencies"" |
| 11:42.26 | nkuttler | nice |
| 11:42.33 | Hellscream | ah damn time to reset password... |
| 11:42.51 | Hellscream | done... |
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| 11:43.22 | bartvk | http://pastebin.com/m15a11000 |
| 11:43.51 | nkuttler | bartvk: apt suggests a solution.. |
| 11:44.37 | bartvk | nkuttler Yeah but then I get http://pastebin.com/m427efb6e |
| 11:44.47 | abrotman | and you should probably be using aptitude |
| 11:45.42 | bartvk | Note this is a university machine with a special repository |
| 11:45.56 | bartvk | I have "sudo apt-get" and nothing more |
| 11:46.29 | nkuttler | bartvk: so remove fglrx-driver |
| 11:46.30 | bartvk | My question is generic; I tried installing a package, it failed, now how do I get it out of the 'queue' |
| 11:46.38 | bartvk | OK trying |
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| 11:47.24 | bartvk | Then I get the same question error, "unmet dependencies" |
| 11:47.39 | nkuttler | bartvk: pastebin command and error |
| 11:48.01 | bartvk | http://pastebin.com/m5fa3ddfd |
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| 11:49.22 | nkuttler | bartvk: hmmmm... try to remove nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-dev and fglrx-driver |
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| 11:51.01 | bartvk | OK |
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| 11:53.13 | JyZyXEL | where do sshd logs go? |
| 11:54.09 | riot | is there a convenient tool to convert a DVD-Folder (with audio_ts and video_ts) into an ogg or mpg? |
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| 11:54.19 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: /var/log/secure for the most part |
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| 11:54.56 | nkuttler | riot: mencoder, handbrake maybe |
| 11:55.02 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: depending on your syslog config (sshd uses facility AUTH by default) |
| 11:55.06 | JyZyXEL | tail: cannot open `/var/log/secure' for reading: No such file or directory |
| 11:55.35 | \amethyst | oops |
| 11:55.42 | scream_ | riot, handbrake |
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| 11:55.44 | JyZyXEL | whats going on |
| 11:55.50 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: sorry, /var/log/auth.log |
| 11:55.57 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: I was misremembering |
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| 11:56.20 | riot | thanks! |
| 11:56.45 | jelly | detect a redhat person |
| 11:56.56 | JyZyXEL | yay that helped |
| 11:57.00 | remoteCTRL1 | hi guys! is there a switch for dpkg that only gives out the files contained in a package including paths? |
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| 11:57.34 | riot | handbrake is ubuntu stuff. Yikes. |
| 11:58.11 | scream_ | riot, nah, it's cross-platform software |
| 11:58.16 | jelly | remoteCTRL1: an installed one, -L |
| 11:58.24 | riot | scream_: yeah, i mean, no debian packages. I'm rather gonna build from src |
| 11:58.48 | remoteCTRL1 | jelly: ah nice, thanks! |
| 11:58.51 | scream_ | riot, ubuntu deb should install |
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| 11:59.20 | abrotman | not really |
| 11:59.57 | riot | i dislike ubuntu packages. Usually messes up the system quite well. |
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| 12:00.10 | abrotman | riot: please don't try to install ubuntu packages on your debian system |
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| 12:00.27 | riot | abrotman: i won't. Did that once. Had fun for a few hours getting dpkg into a sane mood again :/ |
| 12:00.52 | riot | had to handremove the dipshitty mess.. not again |
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| 12:04.13 | abrotman | riot: is that something the mplayer stuff cannot do? |
| 12:04.23 | nkuttler | riot: /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 12:04.57 | riot | abrotman: i suppose so, but i think, i'd have to be entering a bazillion parameters and commands to make one single file out of that weird DVD-Format-Folder |
| 12:05.09 | riot | handbrake seems to understand those fully. |
| 12:05.31 | abrotman | you could try to compile it |
| 12:05.33 | riot | nkuttler: you want me to become a maintainer? |
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| 12:05.43 | nkuttler | riot: it's available at dmm |
| 12:05.44 | riot | abrotman: its compiling. Takes a while. lots of codecs to build. |
| 12:05.48 | nkuttler | !dmm |
| 12:05.50 | riot | nkuttler: aah, ok |
| 12:06.14 | riot | nkuttler: i tried dnm ;D |
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| 12:06.23 | abrotman | uh oh .. |
| 12:07.30 | riot | hehe. No for sure not. I'm maintaining an own distro at work, maintaining a wee tiny secure distro for my own needs and a dozen debian boxes. Thats way enough maintaining for me. |
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| 12:09.03 | yang | \amethyst: still around ? I have user directory chmodet like this - drwxr-x--- 28 yang yang 4096 2009-06-24 13:40 yang and public_html directory inside like drwxr-xr-x 20 yang yang 4096 2009-05-15 20:41 public_html however apache doesn't display website anymore |
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| 12:10.01 | yang | \amethyst: the last thing I applied was - for x in /home/*; do chmod o-rw "$x"; [ -d "$x/public_html" ] || chmod o-x "$x"; done |
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| 12:10.38 | Selveste1 | !etch->lenny key |
| 12:11.35 | abrotman | Selveste1: what are you looking for ? |
| 12:12.13 | riot | whats up with dpkg? Doesn't respond :( |
| 12:12.36 | abrotman | it's a vacation day |
| 12:12.43 | rudi_s | Hi. How can I prevent quilt from creating 0000 (no access for all) files? They cause some trouble for my backups. Thanks. |
| 12:12.49 | abrotman | dpkg just timed out on oftc |
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| 12:13.23 | riot | so he'll be back.. |
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| 12:13.58 | nkuttler | ~test |
| 12:13.59 | apt | Failed! |
| 12:13.59 | shyam_k | which was that command to see the list of installed files of a package? |
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| 12:14.08 | nkuttler | shyam_k: dpkg -L |
| 12:14.13 | shyam_k | ok.. |
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| 12:14.37 | maxaga | hi |
| 12:14.50 | maxaga | when i install a kernel module, should i do it from /tmp ? |
| 12:15.06 | nkuttler | maxaga: ? |
| 12:15.13 | nkuttler | maxaga: do you mean compile? |
| 12:15.13 | maxaga | or does the system still needs the directory where drivers were compiled after the reboot ? |
| 12:15.24 | nkuttler | maxaga: no |
| 12:15.40 | valan | only needs the binary module |
| 12:15.54 | riot | weird, apt-proxy doesn't get anything from debian-multimedia.org :/ |
| 12:15.56 | Selveste1 | abrotman: I have an old Etch server - and I want's to upgrade to lenny but I don't have direct contact with the server - can I upgrade it with out physical access - I really wood prefer not to drive 200 km to look at my server |
| 12:15.56 | maxaga | ok, so it's ok to do it from /tmp |
| 12:16.16 | abrotman | Selveste1: so do it over ssh ? |
| 12:16.20 | nkuttler | maxaga: i prefer to keep the sources around and put them in /usr/src/, but tmp should be fine |
| 12:16.32 | valan | sure, doesn't really matter where you do it from though |
| 12:16.38 | abrotman | riot: apt-proxy has to be configured to pull from it |
| 12:16.45 | yang | Selveste1: you can, read the upgrade notes in the debian documentation, the upgrade should work smoothly |
| 12:17.21 | Selveste1 | abrotman: Will the SSH not disconnects when its getting upgraded ? |
| 12:17.34 | yang | Selveste1: that is why you need to use "screen" |
| 12:17.35 | abrotman | Selveste1: it should not .. but run the upgrade from 'screen' just in case |
| 12:17.36 | shyam_k | mozilla source don't seem to have a .desktop file, iceweasal is adding its own .desktop file? |
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| 12:19.30 | Selveste1 | abrotman & yang: thanx I will try that - but I think I will try on a VM first just in case :P |
| 12:19.58 | yang | Selveste1: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 12:20.57 | riot | abrotman: it is.. must be something wrong.. |
| 12:21.13 | shyam_k | have to go. be back later.. |
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| 12:21.37 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes |
| 12:21.53 | abrotman | probably a bit more appropriate |
| 12:22.38 | yang | Selveste1: yes sorry, I gave the wrong link |
| 12:22.55 | riot | hmm. ok. handbrake just segfaults on me after starting encoding :/ |
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| 12:26.57 | xororand | How can you install libx11 with the new ia32-libs system in debian sid? |
| 12:27.22 | xororand | is there something like apt-get --arch=i386 install libx11-6? |
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| 12:37.35 | maxaga | is it possible to see the history of this channel, i need an information someone gave me yesterday about a route |
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| 12:38.27 | Caesarli | enouf, still remember my problem? I figured out, that I can use my HD with a Live Ubuntu... Reading, writing, everything fine... But when I start the Ubuntu installer, it crashes as well as the one for Debian. Is it possible, that the installers have a problem with the half-partitionated HD? |
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| 12:39.12 | abrotman | maxaga: /topic |
| 12:39.54 | maxaga | great :) |
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| 12:50.00 | liable | !qotd0 |
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| 12:50.23 | liable | dpkg: wake up you useless tart! |
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| 12:55.19 | zmen01 | .bashrc overwrites .bash_profile settings when the user enters a screen right? |
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| 12:57.36 | alecs1 | hi, how do I stop "fam" from ever being install by "aptitude full-upgrade"? |
| 12:57.40 | alecs1 | I tried: Package: fam |
| 12:57.40 | alecs1 | Pin: version * |
| 12:57.40 | alecs1 | Pin-Priority: -1 |
| 12:58.02 | alecs1 | I mean, I added those lines in /etc/apt/preferences |
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| 13:00.28 | abrotman | what's wrong with fam ? |
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| 13:01.00 | wark | I have a Western Digital SATA drive that's not detected by the Lenny installer, but it is detected in Knoppix, Is there a way to find out what device driver knoppix is using so I can install Lenny? |
| 13:01.53 | alecs1 | abrotman: for some reasons it will at some point just enter some loop taking 100% percent of my processor; at least it does when amarok is running |
| 13:02.25 | abrotman | alecs1: which package is trying to install fam? |
| 13:02.31 | alecs1 | this has long been known, I don't see any speed improvement from running fam, so I'm better without |
| 13:02.58 | alecs1 | hmm, how do I find out? it is a recomendation, not a dependency anyway |
| 13:04.01 | alecs1 | i openoffice.org-gnome Depends libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 1:2.17.90) |
| 13:04.02 | alecs1 | i A libgnomevfs2-0 Suggests fam |
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| 13:04.44 | barmagnet | can someone please tell me the approximate time by which Pidgin 2.7 or above would make it to Squeeze? |
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| 13:04.46 | alecs1 | this is what "aptitude why fam" said, is this a good answer? |
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| 13:04.57 | abrotman | alecs1: that wouldn't install it .. that's just a Suggests |
| 13:05.05 | riot | goddess. i HATE video conversion tools. All too stupid. |
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| 13:05.10 | riot | what a mess |
| 13:05.14 | abrotman | barmagnet: last i saw .. it was being held by krb5 |
| 13:05.20 | abrotman | !why is pidgin not in testing |
| 13:05.21 | JyZyXEL | does alsa have way to combine multiple physical sound cards into a one big virtual one? |
| 13:05.26 | barmagnet | ok |
| 13:05.46 | barmagnet | dpkg did not answer you abrotman, why? |
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| 13:05.56 | abrotman | oh grrr |
| 13:05.58 | abrotman | barmagnet: hold on |
| 13:06.13 | abrotman | barmagnet: http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=pidgin |
| 13:06.39 | mischief | lol, zephyr |
| 13:06.48 | alecs1 | riot: which tools? avidemux always did my limited needs, anything else is plain confusing |
| 13:07.25 | riot | i'm trying to convert a dvd-vob to ogg/theora/vorbis. Ffmpeg seems to be able to do the job, but it just quits with stupid error messages |
| 13:07.46 | \amethyst | oh, so it's waiting on the krb5 transition |
| 13:08.02 | liable | dpkg: ping |
| 13:08.06 | riot | handbrake is a nice tool, but its limited to queueing and doesn't even attempt to make full use of a quad core via multiple jobs |
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| 13:08.14 | abrotman | \amethyst: i just said that! |
| 13:08.26 | liable | did not |
| 13:08.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: dpkg seems to have gone out for a BBQ |
| 13:08.36 | \amethyst | abrotman: oh, so you did |
| 13:08.51 | kasimon | whow, i just found out that `test -n' is not the same as `test -n ""' |
| 13:09.22 | \amethyst | kasimon: yup... test -n asks whether "-n" is non-empty |
| 13:09.25 | kasimon | didn't know the concept of an empty string existed in bash |
| 13:09.40 | kasimon | \amethyst: that's even worse than what I expected ;-) |
| 13:10.03 | \amethyst | kasimon: test one-argument is the same as test -n second-argument |
| 13:10.23 | \amethyst | kasimon: and, yes, there can be empty arguments, but they have to be quoted of course |
| 13:10.46 | riot | ok, i got it running. :) |
| 13:11.02 | alecs1 | the ffmpeg? |
| 13:11.06 | kasimon | \amethyst: combine this with eval and you're on the road to madness ... |
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| 13:11.18 | \amethyst | kasimon: please don't, eval is evil |
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| 13:11.39 | kasimon | \amethyst: but sometimes needed |
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| 13:13.32 | alecs1 | about aptitude and fam, are above lines in /etc/apt/preferences wrong in some way? |
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| 13:14.08 | alecs1 | otherwise, I can simply uninstall fam after each upgrade |
| 13:14.11 | abrotman | alecs1: did you run the apt-get/aptitude update ? |
| 13:15.23 | \amethyst | kasimon: still, every use of eval should be considered suspect because of code injection issues |
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| 13:16.02 | \amethyst | kasimon: in bash it should generally be combined with "$(printf %q ...)" |
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| 13:16.11 | alecs1 | abrotman: yes |
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| 13:17.05 | alecs1 | enough time spent on this, thanks anyway, I'll keep removing fam for now |
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| 13:17.38 | cusco | does debian installer has an option to resize ext3 or ntfs partitions before installing? |
| 13:17.41 | Caesarli | o_O The thunder makes me scared. The shocks are that strong that I frear about my HD... |
| 13:18.38 | riot | alecs1: yes |
| 13:19.08 | abrotman | alecs1: apt-cache policy fam |
| 13:19.10 | oliva_ | hi there ... I have a directory with a lot of files (~3774000). Is there a way to list them (in order to move them in subdirectories) in the order they are listed in the inode? |
| 13:19.25 | xshadowfire | what happens when kill -9 doesn't kill something <.< |
| 13:19.59 | petemc | xshadowfire: is that something in D state? |
| 13:20.06 | xshadowfire | yes |
| 13:20.08 | xshadowfire | umount |
| 13:20.17 | petemc | xshadowfire: you can wait it out or reboot |
| 13:20.55 | justin | oliva_: -f do not sort, enable -aU, disable -ls --color |
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| 13:21.11 | xshadowfire | I don't know why it takes so long to umount |
| 13:21.13 | bzed | oliva_: use find, let it print the inode numbers and sort it then... |
| 13:21.14 | xshadowfire | :/ |
| 13:21.59 | petemc | xshadowfire: usually, that means its waiting for disk i/o |
| 13:22.29 | oliva_ | justin: bzed thanks :) |
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| 13:23.02 | bzed | oliva_: oh well, I think I misunderstood you and you want what justin said :) |
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| 13:23.15 | xshadowfire | :/ |
| 13:23.27 | bzed | oliva_: although find is pobably more useful for you in any case... |
| 13:24.16 | justin | oliva_: most likely what you want is a perl script or something that just uses readdir |
| 13:24.42 | justin | oliva_: or python :-D |
| 13:25.12 | justin | os.listfiles doesnt sort the dir, but it does return the full list, but as long as you aren't low on ram it should work ok |
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| 13:36.49 | wark | does any one know why the latest Lenny installer doesn't detect some SATA drives? |
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| 13:38.28 | Blackhold | hello |
| 13:38.46 | Blackhold | is possible to sent emails from bash scripting without install postfix or exim? |
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| 13:40.04 | alecs1 | Caesarli: do you live in upper Austria? nice thunders came here too |
| 13:40.08 | nkuttler | Blackhold: um, probably, but it sounds like a lot of pain |
| 13:40.23 | \amethyst | Blackhold: install a simpler MTA like nullmailer or ssmtp |
| 13:40.34 | petemc | Blackhold: mutt can now talk smtp |
| 13:40.34 | liable | Blackhold: ssmtp will do it |
| 13:41.11 | Blackhold | petemc: is possible to install mutt and use my mail server to send mails? |
| 13:41.17 | petemc | yes |
| 13:41.28 | petemc | i have mutt sending mail via gmail on one box |
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| 13:43.03 | enouf | Caesarli: half-partitioned HDD? no, they shouldn't - however, it's possible the start of 1st partition is 2048? not 63? |
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| 13:43.58 | \amethyst | Blackhold: ssmtp isn't even an MTA, just an MSA (it doesn't listen to port 25 or anything like that) |
| 13:44.26 | \amethyst | Blackhold: but it satisfies the mail-transport-agent dependency in Debian |
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| 13:46.18 | baz | hi guys, I'm using sun's jdk and want to install ant, but aptitude is trying to pull in all the gcj libs, any idea how to convince it not to? |
| 13:46.18 | enouf | oliva_: as mentioned, find 's -ls option prints out inode number (find . -ls | sort -n) perhaps |
| 13:47.02 | Blackhold | \amethyst: maybe with nbSMTP |
| 13:47.17 | \amethyst | baz: how is sun's JDK installed? |
| 13:47.54 | baz | \amethyst: with 'aptitude install sun-java6-jdk' |
| 13:48.04 | Blackhold | thanks guys |
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| 13:48.13 | baz | \amethyst: also set it with 'update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun' |
| 13:48.18 | \amethyst | baz: ohh |
| 13:48.25 | \amethyst | baz: it's the Recommends: ant-gcj |
| 13:48.25 | baz | so not sure why the system thinks gcj is needed |
| 13:48.33 | \amethyst | baz: turn off recommends when you install it |
| 13:48.35 | \amethyst | !recommends |
| 13:48.42 | \amethyst | oh, right, no dpkg |
| 13:48.54 | abrotman | baz: on lenny? |
| 13:49.05 | baz | abrotman: yes, lenny on i386 |
| 13:49.40 | \amethyst | baz: aptitude -R install ant |
| 13:49.53 | baz | \amethyst: perfect, thanks! |
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| 13:51.11 | Caesarli | alecs1, no, southern Bavaria, Rosenheim. |
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| 14:11.58 | debuz | hi guys... is there anything like hotplug for cds/dvds? |
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| 14:14.35 | enouf | Caesarli: you might have some proprietary mainboard fakeraid going on that dmraid doesn't quite know how to cope with? (try 'linux dmraid=true' or somesuch at the boot prompt), or windows-related volumedisk thing happening? |
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| 14:16.59 | Cim | Hi, I'm have a question: in Ubuntu when i click Atl+y i make an arrow, now I have Debian 5.0 with TTY only, I can see this arrows but when click Alt+y I can't do this arrow, question: how do make this arrow in my Debian? |
| 14:17.43 | debuz | Cim: try altgr |
| 14:17.48 | debuz | â |
| 14:17.49 | debuz | =) |
| 14:18.02 | Vonor | » |
| 14:18.05 | Arrowmaster | ü |
| 14:18.10 | justin | lol |
| 14:18.22 | Vonor | ⺠|
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| 14:18.46 | debuz | âââ |
| 14:18.47 | Cim | debuz what altgr? |
| 14:18.59 | debuz | Cim: it's equivallent to control + alt |
| 14:19.10 | debuz | usually it's your RIGHT ALT |
| 14:19.30 | Cim | debuz it's not working |
| 14:19.42 | justin | Cim: did you set the right locale/keyboard type when you installed? |
| 14:19.50 | debuz | is your right alt saying "altgr"? |
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| 14:20.43 | Cim | justin: i did because i can do some kind of my national Ä
ÄÄÅó |
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| 14:21.29 | _pseud0nym | Hi, this is a general question. I am wondering if there's a way to create a folder in /tmp & not have it deleted at reboot? |
| 14:21.30 | debuz | Cim: that's locale, not layout =) |
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| 14:21.46 | debuz | _pseud0nym: sticky bit maybe...? |
| 14:22.04 | Cim | debuz: ooh sorry, how to check layout in TTY? |
| 14:22.06 | _pseud0nym | I'll try that, thank you |
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| 14:23.30 | debuz | no _pseud0nym |
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| 14:23.52 | debuz | Cim: I think it is dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 14:23.58 | brah | Can anybody throw me a bone in here |
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| 14:24.08 | brah | I'm trying to get Iptables to restrict stuff for certain users |
| 14:24.10 | brah | but not for others |
| 14:24.13 | brah | on the same computer |
| 14:25.03 | justin | brah: iptables has a -uid-.. option |
| 14:25.21 | brah | owner? Thought so |
| 14:25.23 | justin | brah: try man iptables then search for 'owner' |
| 14:25.23 | brah | Let's see |
| 14:25.24 | justin | yeah |
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| 14:27.12 | petemc | |
| 14:27.33 | liable | hands petemc some letters and stuff |
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| 14:27.41 | engla | python question: What's up with python2.6/site-packages (?) is it ever used? automake wants to install modules there, but it's not in sys.path |
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| 14:28.00 | justin | engla: where? |
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| 14:32.55 | hipermic | ciao |
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| 14:36.01 | bbelt16ag | how do you make tar do compressed volumes? |
| 14:36.15 | abrotman | did you read the tar man page ? |
| 14:36.22 | bbelt16ag | I am looking at the -m -M switches and its confusing |
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| 14:36.38 | bbelt16ag | here is what I got so far |
| 14:36.40 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.52 | bbelt16ag | I need em less then 25mb for email |
| 14:38.11 | KavanS | bbelt16ag, maybe there's a split utility? |
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| 14:38.50 | abrotman | or use better compression? |
| 14:38.59 | abrotman | KavanS: oddly called 'split' |
| 14:39.07 | KavanS | lol |
| 14:39.12 | KavanS | yeah I assumed as such... |
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| 14:39.23 | bbelt16ag | .... |
| 14:39.27 | bbelt16ag | I didn't know that seesh |
| 14:39.32 | KavanS | bbelt16ag, man split |
| 14:39.33 | bbelt16ag | I am use to using rar |
| 14:39.55 | bbelt16ag | hmmm |
| 14:39.57 | KavanS | might as well use tar....not sure if rar preserves perms on *ix |
| 14:40.01 | KavanS | prolly does by now |
| 14:40.31 | bbelt16ag | yeah |
| 14:40.51 | bbelt16ag | how do I combine it? |
| 14:40.52 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: how big is that .gz file ? |
| 14:41.00 | debuz | use bz1 |
| 14:41.04 | debuz | bz2 |
| 14:41.10 | debuz | tar jcvf |
| 14:41.25 | _pseud0nym | bbelt16ag: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/split-files-with-tar-26311 |
| 14:41.32 | bbelt16ag | 75mb ish |
| 14:41.36 | abrotman | it won't matter if the gz is way way bigger than 25MB |
| 14:41.50 | abrotman | i don't think bz2 is going to compress that enough |
| 14:42.05 | debuz | maybe with -9 |
| 14:42.13 | debuz | I would give it a try |
| 14:42.18 | debuz | bz2 has amazed me several times... |
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| 14:42.26 | bbelt16ag | it made it smaller they are text file |
| 14:42.35 | bbelt16ag | 99% of them anyways so they compress well |
| 14:43.10 | Wyzard | If I have a hard drive with no partitions mounted, and "lsof" and "fuser" indicate that nothing has neither the whole-disk nor any of the partition devices open, what could cause the kernel to say "device or resource busy" when trying to re-read the partition table after using fdisk? |
| 14:43.12 | debuz | nice |
| 14:43.20 | Cim | debuz: i dpg-reconfigure console-data and checked 4 diffrents configurations and nothing changes at all |
| 14:43.59 | debuz | Cim: hmmm... did you try control + alt + y? |
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| 14:44.03 | under | Hey guys, I've this problem when compiz is running: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4233/problemajvx.jpg THanks |
| 14:44.07 | debuz | mine is control alt y, look -> ââââââ |
| 14:44.11 | Cim | debuz: yes |
| 14:44.22 | debuz | Cim: then I ran out of ideas... sorry =( |
| 14:44.38 | Cim | debuz: but you have a Gnome or other GUI right? |
| 14:44.56 | abrotman | Wyzard: if nothing is mounted, how could it be open? |
| 14:44.58 | debuz | well, yeah... but it works outside aswell |
| 14:45.02 | debuz | I just tested it |
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| 14:45.38 | Wyzard | abrotman: That's what I'm wondering... I moved all the data off and unmounted everything, and I'm trying to repartition it but something's interfering |
| 14:45.46 | Cim | :/ hmmm what's your configuration of console-dat? |
| 14:46.01 | debuz | br-abnt2 |
| 14:46.35 | Cim | debuz: so it's pc/qwerty/brasil? |
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| 14:46.50 | debuz | yes, brazil - standard abnt2 |
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| 14:47.05 | Cim | ok i check it one more time ^^ thx for help |
| 14:47.27 | debuz | np man |
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| 14:47.41 | abrotman | Wyzard: but it still currently has partitions? |
| 14:48.28 | Wyzard | abrotman: yes -- I've changed them in the partition table with fdisk, but the kernel still has the old ones in memory (and therefore in /dev) |
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| 14:49.39 | engla | justin: an own project. now I'm taking ubuntu's latest automake which seems to have a fix for python2.6 |
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| 14:51.03 | Wyzard | abrotman: Interesting... one of the old partitions was an LVM PV, and I tried running pvremove on it in case LVM is still looking at the partition somehow, and that fails saying it couldn't open /dev/hda2 exclusively... using strace I see that it's getting EBUSY too |
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| 14:52.26 | bbelt16ag | screw it I will use DAR |
| 14:52.29 | bbelt16ag | tar sucks |
| 14:52.39 | abrotman | thinks bbelt16ag is just lazy |
| 14:53.00 | bbelt16ag | no I am not lazy |
| 14:53.01 | abrotman | Wyzard: could something be using the drive instead of the parittions ? |
| 14:53.05 | bbelt16ag | its diff then other apps |
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| 14:53.36 | Wyzard | abrotman: neither fuser nor lsof show anything having /dev/hda open |
| 14:54.24 | abrotman | Wyzard: bah .. just pull the plug :) |
| 14:54.39 | Wyzard | yeah, looks like I'll need to reboot it |
| 14:54.43 | Wyzard | I was hoping to avoid that since it's my router |
| 14:54.47 | abrotman | Wyzard: maybe the fdisk didn't finish writing ? |
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| 14:56.08 | Wyzard | fdisk reads the new partitions just fine if I run it again, so I know the on-disk table is valid |
| 14:56.27 | Wyzard | and the process terminated when I quit it, about ten minutes ago at this point |
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| 14:57.15 | maveas | Hi guys.. Does anyone of you have experience with SalvationData? |
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| 14:57.55 | Wyzard | I'm wondering if the device-mapper is holding onto hda2 somehow... it used to be part of an LVM volume group, but I pvmoved everything off it overnight and removed it from the VG |
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| 14:58.23 | radical | wyzard, what does /proc/partitions say? |
| 14:59.00 | Wyzard | radical: It shows the old partitions (which is consistent with fdisk telling me it failed to reload the table when I wrote out the new one) |
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| 15:00.01 | radical | if you have to keep the system up now but can reboot it later, then you could setup a loopback device to act as your newly formed partition |
| 15:00.01 | zhxk | hello, how to pronounce lol? |
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| 15:00.28 | Wyzard | hmm, true, though that's pretty klugey |
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| 15:00.43 | petemc | zhxk: el oh el |
| 15:00.53 | \amethyst | 'ha ha ha' |
| 15:01.01 | petemc | guffaw |
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| 15:01.17 | abrotman | zhxk: #debian-offtopic |
| 15:01.22 | radical | actually it works quite good, i played arond with partitioned files and lvm's a while back, dont see why a harddisk should be any different |
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| 15:02.17 | Wyzard | The main concern is that the other partition (hda1) was /boot... I backed it up to a tarfile and was planning to restore it to a new filesystem on the same disk after repartitioning |
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| 15:02.46 | Wyzard | so if I reboot now there's a chance I may need to use a liveCD (which I can do; it's just inconvenient) |
| 15:03.40 | zhxk | petemc:ok |
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| 15:04.33 | Wyzard | though when I think about it, the new partition table has hda1 starting on the same cylinder as the old one, and although it's much larger now, the old /boot filesystem is still on disk at the beginning of it, so grub should actually find it anyway |
| 15:05.03 | radical | you will only need a live cd if you a.) wreck your bootloader b.) zero your root and or boot partition |
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| 15:06.50 | Wyzard | not quite true -- it'd be necessary if the partition that grub is configured to mount (hda1) was in a new location, under the new partition table, that doesn't contain a valid filesystem with stage2, kernel, etc. |
| 15:07.15 | Wyzard | even if nothing else on the disk has changed |
| 15:07.41 | radical | but you could write grub anew before rebooting |
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| 15:09.03 | radical | it might bitch and moan about not finding the tageted partition when you do it , but in the end you can force it to do your bidding |
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| 15:11.28 | Wyzard | I could do grub-install and it'd actually see the new partitions, since it reads the partition table directly, but I can't actually create the new /boot filesystem because I have no /dev node for that partition |
| 15:11.46 | Wyzard | unless I do the loop thing that you mentioned, I guess |
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| 15:13.04 | _pseud0nym | Hi, can anyone point me in the direction to understand how does 'mount' command exactly work & what it does (create symlink etc.)? |
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| 15:14.41 | Night_Elf | hi all. I mount a partition of my drive which is ntfs. It says: /dev/sda1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw) When I do: touch /mnt/test.txt it says it's a read-only filesystem. What to do in order to be able and write in there ? |
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| 15:16.03 | Wyzard | but I think the current situation should work -- grub will look at hda1, which used to be a 100MB partition starting at cylinder 1, and now it's a 120GB partition starting at cylinder 1 whose contents happen to begin with that 100MB ext3 filesystem |
| 15:16.37 | Wyzard | Night_Elf: Use ntfs-3g... the in-kernel ntfs driver doesn't support writing |
| 15:17.02 | mesa_booger | Wyzard: actually, it does in newer kernels, but it still sucks ... :) |
| 15:17.05 | cantido | Wyzard: grub isn't like lilo where it depends on data to be at the right sectors.. as long as it can load the stages after the mbr |
| 15:17.09 | Night_Elf | Wyzard: how to use the ntfs-3g ? |
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| 15:17.41 | Wyzard | cantido: but it needs to find a valid filesystem on the partition where it's configured to look |
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| 15:17.48 | Night_Elf | mesa_booger: I have 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 15:18.21 | Wyzard | cantido: because that's where its stage2 is |
| 15:19.09 | mesa_booger | Night_Elf: ntfs-3g is what you need |
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| 15:19.24 | Night_Elf | ok. there exists a package named ntfs-3g |
| 15:19.34 | Night_Elf | mesa_booger: ah... I wrote too early :) |
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| 15:20.15 | mesa_booger | mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever, is what i would do |
| 15:21.18 | mesa_booger | with possibly -o dmask=0022,fmask=0133,uid=mesa,gid=mesa |
| 15:21.23 | cantido | Wyzard: I think there is a stage 1.5 before stage two |
| 15:21.31 | Night_Elf | mesa_booger: so, then the type is considered a different one. as in ntfs != ntfs-3g |
| 15:21.51 | cantido | Wyzard: the mbr directly links to 1.5 and then 1.5 can load stage 2 from the FS properly |
| 15:21.51 | Night_Elf | mesa_booger: I'd asume that's what I'd use in the /etc/fstab too |
| 15:21.59 | jpinx | with links2 -g running in tty3 I can not go to tty2 and back to tty3 - it seems to lose links2. Anyone know why? |
| 15:21.59 | mesa_booger | Night_Elf: yes. that's right. on both counts |
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| 15:22.18 | Night_Elf | mesa_booger: thanks. will do this right now |
| 15:22.26 | Wyzard | _pseud0nym: Mounting is all done in the kernel... the filesystem driver (ext3 or whatever) reads the filesystem's superblock from disk and uses it to set up whatever in-memory data structures it needs, and adds an entry to the mount table associating the inode of the underlying directory (the mountpoint) with the root inode of the mounted filesystem |
| 15:22.48 | Wyzard | cantido: yep |
| 15:22.56 | cantido | Wyzard: unless the FS is implemented with FUSE |
| 15:23.13 | mesa_booger | Night_Elf: there is still the issue of whether normal users can create/write. hence the options i alluded to above. change "mesa" to your username |
| 15:23.18 | Wyzard | cantido: Well, FUSE is a Linux kernel thing; GRUB can't use it |
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| 15:23.43 | titosemi | does anyone knows why df says that i have no free space in my 4,5Gb / I havent used so much!!!!!!!! |
| 15:23.45 | cantido | Wyzard: GRUB2 can do a lot of things.. it can understand LVM etc |
| 15:24.12 | cantido | titosemi: have you used du to see where the space is being used? |
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| 15:24.40 | Wyzard | cantido: That's because it implements its own drivers for ext3, reiserfs, lvm, etc. |
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| 15:25.16 | titosemi | cantido: yes. du -xk / | sort -n |
| 15:25.19 | cantido | Wyzard: yeah,.. there's no reason that anything done in FUSE couldn't be done in GRUB2 |
| 15:25.19 | Wyzard | cantido: which operate using just BIOS disk I/O; no kernel since it isn't loaded yet |
| 15:25.23 | mesa_booger | titosemi: 4.5G isn't very much. i'm using 8.1G here out of 20G and i have only ~1600 packages installed, and seperate /home, /usr/local |
| 15:25.31 | titosemi | that says that 128Mb |
| 15:25.32 | pipeline | titosemi: by default a certain percentage of blocks are reserved for use by root exclusively |
| 15:25.36 | pipeline | titosemi: man tune2fs |
| 15:25.55 | Wyzard | cantido: sure, but it'd be a completely separate implementation, so the fact that the Linux implementation uses FUSE is irrelevant |
| 15:26.02 | mesa_booger | tune2fs -m0 will recover some |
| 15:26.03 | titosemi | pipeline: if i am right, i have configured it with 5% |
| 15:26.33 | mesa_booger | but apt-get clean ; apt-get autoclean ; will prolly recover even more space ... |
| 15:26.47 | cantido | Wyzard: depends what version of grub you use ;) GRUB-EFI doesn't use BIOS calls |
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| 15:26.58 | mesa_booger | du -s /var/cache/apt/archives will tell ... |
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| 15:27.55 | titosemi | du -s /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 15:27.55 | titosemi | 56932/var/cache/apt/archives |
| 15:28.13 | mesa_booger | hmmm that's not much then |
| 15:28.32 | Wyzard | cantido: true, but my point is that anything GRUB supports is completely independent of what Linux supports |
| 15:28.37 | mesa_booger | titosemi: how many packages do you have installed ? |
| 15:28.52 | cantido | Wyzard: yeah, that's pretty obvious really :) |
| 15:29.22 | mesa_booger | a decent visual aid is filelight. shows where all the space is used, in a nice graphical way |
| 15:29.26 | titosemi | not too much, its a server just the needed + apache2, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, samba, pptpd |
| 15:29.38 | cantido | titosemi: do you have big databases? |
| 15:29.44 | Wyzard | Anyway, time to reboot my router |
| 15:29.54 | titosemi | no |
| 15:30.21 | titosemi | :( |
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| 15:30.36 | cantido | titosemi: sometimes, just sometimes, the amount of freespace being reported can be incorrect because of FS breakage |
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| 15:31.22 | titosemi | but i got erros trying to modify files, because there are no free space left so i cant modify them :( arggggg |
| 15:31.26 | titosemi | what could i do? |
| 15:31.30 | elux | how can i customize what /etc/init.d/ services start on launch? or will anything in /etc/init.d/ be called with "start" ? |
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| 15:32.42 | elux | im pretty sure i need to add it to rcX.d/ ? |
| 15:32.42 | cantido | titosemi: does du show that the total space consumed by files == the freespace reported by df? |
| 15:32.56 | barmagnet | can I download the .deb file of Pidgin 2.8 from sid repo and install it myself to /usr/local ? |
| 15:33.03 | cahoot_ | elux: man update-rc.d |
| 15:33.18 | barmagnet | i am using squeeze at the moment? |
| 15:33.44 | cantido | barmagnet: if you're using squeeze you should be able to install most stuff from testing without issue |
| 15:33.49 | _pseud0nym | elux: You can use 'sysvconfig' or 'sysv-rc-config' if you want to change services that start when you boot |
| 15:34.10 | barmagnet | cantido, no, I mean, I am using testing but I want to download .deb from sid repo and install to /usr/local |
| 15:34.23 | elux | _pseud0nym: are those other packages? i dont seem to have either of those commands |
| 15:34.43 | cantido | barmagnet: the problem is the binaries in the deb are going to be built with a $PREFIX that isn't /usr/local |
| 15:34.51 | d_b | barmagnet: I think what you're trying to do is apt pinning. google it and see if that's right (I've never done it myself) |
| 15:34.56 | titosemi | cantido: http://pastebin.com/m3326ac1c |
| 15:34.56 | _pseud0nym | elux: Yes, you'll need to 'apt-get install' them first |
| 15:35.01 | elux | cool thanks |
| 15:35.09 | cantido | barmagnet: so if they have hardcoded paths, based on the prefix, it wont work |
| 15:35.12 | elux | which is better? sysvconfig or sysv-rc-config .. ? |
| 15:35.20 | barmagnet | cantido, isn't it possible to change the prefix to /usr/local ? |
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| 15:35.50 | _pseud0nym | sysv-rc-config will offer better control/detailed control options, if you know exactly what you are doing |
| 15:35.58 | cantido | barmagnet: yes, by telling the configure script where you want the binaries to go.. i.e during the build process |
| 15:36.10 | elux | ill give it a shot |
| 15:36.44 | elux | nice |
| 15:36.45 | cantido | barmagnet: squeeze should be pretty close to sid, you should be able to install sid stuff into squeeze |
| 15:36.46 | elux | i like the interface |
| 15:37.39 | titosemi | cantido: have you seen it? it said that / has 128Mb |
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| 15:37.56 | titosemi | joder! |
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| 15:40.28 | elux | does anyone here use Amazon's EC2 service? if i upgrade my instance, should i then bundle the volume, reupload and re-register the AMI ? |
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| 15:41.48 | titosemi | cantido: are you there? |
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| 15:46.23 | jelly | elux: doesn't sound like a debian issue |
| 15:46.38 | jelly | elux: try ##Linux for generic questions |
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| 15:47.12 | elux | ok |
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| 15:52.42 | alecs1 | hi, I am trying to mount a squashfs filesystem: mount -o loop /home/alex/tmp/mount/casper/filesystem.squashfs mount2 |
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| 15:52.55 | alecs1 | and fail with error: [26878.103417] SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported |
| 15:53.08 | alecs1 | is there a debian kernel module for this? |
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| 15:53.48 | alecs1 | or how should I go about reading the data inside? |
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| 15:55.31 | alecs1 | aa, got it, a virtual machine |
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| 15:56.53 | acu | does anyone knows where is the resolution specified in Lenny ? - do not tell me Xorg.conf because it means you really do not know |
| 15:57.23 | abrotman | acu: it probes for it |
| 15:57.32 | valan | it is in xorg.conf |
| 15:57.34 | valan | i do know |
| 15:57.47 | abrotman | valan: not by default |
| 15:57.49 | acu | valan: in older versions |
| 15:58.00 | valan | no, not by default |
| 15:58.11 | acu | I would appreciate if someone can tell me where it is |
| 15:58.16 | valan | by default x will, as abrotman said, probe for what it thinks is the best definition |
| 15:58.28 | acu | that you can specify what resolution you want |
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| 15:58.52 | valan | run 'X -configure' to get a generated xorg.conf, then you can tailor that to the resolution you want |
| 15:59.07 | abrotman | or just put in the stuff you want |
| 15:59.08 | alecs1 | acu: select it with a tool, krandrtray for example |
| 15:59.37 | acu | where do I put the stuff I want |
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| 15:59.52 | abrotman | acu: if you want to specify a resolution, use xorg.conf |
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| 16:00.34 | valan | check the man page for xorg.conf, in the monitor section you can specify a display size |
| 16:01.04 | Wyzard | acu: Assuming you have a modern monitor, xorg will query the preferred resolution from the monitor itself |
| 16:01.14 | valan | xorg isn't always right though |
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| 16:01.34 | Wyzard | acu: Other software (like desktop environments reading user preferences and using RandR) might change it afterward |
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| 16:02.01 | Wyzard | but for the initial resolution, it's autodetected and AFAIK if you want to override that you have to use xorg.conf |
| 16:02.36 | cantoma | hey guys my keyboard has the wrong keymap. Does anyone knows how to correct it? |
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| 16:05.09 | nkuttler | cantoma: x or console? |
| 16:05.16 | cantoma | nkuttler, |
| 16:05.18 | cantoma | x |
| 16:05.36 | nkuttler | cantoma: xorg.conf, setxkbmap |
| 16:05.52 | cantoma | nkuttler, my xorg.conf is empty |
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| 16:06.13 | acu | I have one computer Phenom - I installed lenny while it was attached to a 17 inch monitor 1024X768 and it works fine - now I have to change it to another monitor with 1920X1080 and when it goes in X gdm - it shows only two inch thick line on the top - the monitor is OK (I tried with different monitors) I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and all this shit - the problem is that I cannot at least force it - my question is how the monitor is detected and then it |
| 16:06.13 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:06.50 | cantoma | nkuttler, did you know where i can find the keyboard extensions? |
| 16:06.53 | acu | cantoma: you can boot as single user mode and go dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:07.10 | nkuttler | cantoma: extensions? |
| 16:07.22 | acu | usually it takes you through the keyboad |
| 16:07.47 | valan | i see, the desktop is crippled because something needs configuring |
| 16:07.51 | darkblue_B | hello- I am building two machines.. I am a novice, but a good programmer.. they are Tyan mb with dual opteron, AmMegatrends BIOS of some kind.. my assoc swears to me I need to make the swap the fisrt partition, and he likes to use a /boot (???) I was only going to use one parition, and a second data disk, also with one partition.. How urgent is this swap first thing? other advice? |
| 16:07.53 | Maulkin | acu: I understand you're annoyed, but that sort of attitude isn't going to encourage people to help you. |
| 16:08.12 | cantoma | acu, i did it and i select the default already .. but same still |
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| 16:08.42 | cantoma | nkuttler, which extensions? |
| 16:08.45 | elux | how can i make debian mount what is in /etc/fstab? |
| 16:08.57 | nkuttler | cantoma: < cantoma> nkuttler, did you know where i can find the keyboard extensions? |
| 16:09.00 | valan | darkblue_B i generally make swap the last partition, but it really doesn't matter |
| 16:09.02 | Maulkin | darkblue_B: Well, I would normally suggest a seperate swap partition. If you're using the debian installer, select "guided - entrie disk" and it will do the right thing for you. |
| 16:09.12 | abrotman | elux: use the mount command |
| 16:09.29 | darkblue_B | Maulkin: aha right |
| 16:09.36 | valan | elux iirc it's 'mount -a' you might want to check the man page though |
| 16:09.48 | cantoma | nkuttler, it is written in the man of setxkbmap that you advice me |
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| 16:10.19 | nkuttler | cantoma: try setxbmap uk |
| 16:10.44 | Wyzard | acu: Check /var/log/xorg.0.log for messages about xorg detecting your monitor and choosing a resolution |
| 16:10.59 | cantoma | nkuttler, Error loading new keyboard description |
| 16:11.03 | Wyzard | Assuming your 1920x1080 monitor is an LCD (I've never heard of that resolution on a CRT), it should definitely be autodetected |
| 16:11.25 | valan | i've heard of, and used, such resolution on lcd ;) |
| 16:11.25 | nkuttler | cantoma: us? |
| 16:11.31 | cantoma | nkuttler, uk |
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| 16:11.39 | valan | err, crt i meant |
| 16:11.46 | nkuttler | cantoma: de works for me, that's all i know |
| 16:12.08 | cantoma | nkuttler, maybe i am missing some packages |
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| 16:12.36 | cantoma | nkuttler, i just did a netinstall and i only have wmaker as window manager .. even the sound doesnt work |
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| 16:12.56 | darkblue_B | my assoc is also saying that the boot partition should definitely be under 130 gb |
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| 16:13.15 | acu | Maulkin: I did not mean to offend anyone - but the truth is evident - the Desktop part of debian sucks big time - nothing works - once again I understand that people dedicate their own time - but maybe is not obvious to them that almost nothing works as it is supposed to do in Desktop - e.g. you add an external disk and you need to do a lot of configs - some of the data CDs cannot be access - the scanner and printers need a lot of configs - the samba network is |
| 16:13.15 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.18 | darkblue_B | this is unhappy because I already did one machine, with many extras, and the boot partition is larger than that |
| 16:13.36 | nkuttler | acu: feel free to send patches |
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| 16:14.21 | dwschool | i have two modem devices, i want to be able to choose on which device faxmail sends out a fax - is this possible with hylafax? |
| 16:14.24 | dwschool | i have two modem devices, i want to be able to choose on which device faxmail sends out a fax - is this possible with hylafax? |
| 16:14.28 | darkblue_B | acu I added a drive in fstab and it appeared on the desktop when I booted, it was fine |
| 16:14.31 | nkuttler | cantoma: i'd edit xorg.conf |
| 16:14.39 | acu | nkuttler: I think the Desktop leader should be an ordinary user without programing or text interface experience |
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| 16:14.54 | nkuttler | desktop leader? |
| 16:15.07 | acu | however leads the desktop team |
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| 16:15.17 | hikenboot | hello i have done a make menuconfig make then a make modules_install if i do a make vmlinuz before the module install i get nothing to be done for vmlinuz but i notice that there is a bzimage this is for xen enabled kernel 2.6.30 is the new way of creating the image to use bzimage instead of vmlinuz? |
| 16:15.18 | nkuttler | acu: anyway, debian is made by volunteers. they focus on what is important to _them_ |
| 16:15.31 | Wyzard | acu: You know different distributions are made for different audiences, right? |
| 16:15.36 | cantoma | nkuttler, it is empty |
| 16:15.58 | Wyzard | acu: Debian isn't really intended to be an easy-as-pie system for people who don't know anything about Linux; that's Ubuntu's niche |
| 16:16.06 | acu | nkuttler: that is why there is leadership and visionaries who lead the project |
| 16:16.27 | nkuttler | acu: what Wyzard said |
| 16:16.42 | nkuttler | cantoma: you can use X -configure to create one |
| 16:16.49 | blacksoul | hello |
| 16:16.54 | Wyzard | acu: My experience has been that most things do work pretty well (running unstable, no less) but Debian is more of a server and power-user distro |
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| 16:17.43 | darkblue_B | acu I started with ubuntu |
| 16:17.46 | darkblue_B | just use that |
| 16:18.07 | darkblue_B | so all - how important is this <130 gb boot parition issue? |
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| 16:19.03 | nkuttler | darkblue_B: what do you mean? |
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| 16:19.13 | cantoma | nkuttler, i am installing a lot of things i will see if it solves |
| 16:19.20 | cantoma | nkuttler, thanks by the way |
| 16:19.22 | hikenboot | I noticed that there is no x86 architecture image I thought that i386 was the older method why do i not see a x86 or 686? |
| 16:19.28 | alexey | Sorry how to install 'iwconfig' under Debian without the internet ? |
| 16:19.32 | darkblue_B | nkuttler: my assoc is trying to tell me it is imprtant that the boot paritiotn is less than 130 gb |
| 16:19.46 | acu | Wyzard: that is not what I read in any of the Debian manifesto - Universal Operating System means something... (that includes hundreds of millions of people who are not professional or have other jobs than struglling for weeks to make a resolution work) - that is the problem - instead of capitalizing and building of what is done in Ubuntu and Knoppix - however it will be maybe more appropriate to call it Debian Server Professional Operating system - I think it |
| 16:19.46 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.50 | darkblue_B | and that swap should be fisrt |
| 16:19.58 | mesa_booger | alexey: wireless-tools should be on the install disk |
| 16:20.09 | darkblue_B | acu -> advocacy |
| 16:20.17 | alexey | I made a netinstall |
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| 16:20.22 | Wyzard | hikenboot: i386 is what Debian calls the IA-32 port |
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| 16:20.40 | nkuttler | darkblue_B: i'd ignore him |
| 16:21.00 | mesa_booger | alexey: then you are screwed |
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| 16:21.31 | darkblue_B | hmmm |
| 16:21.37 | nkuttler | alexey: go to packages.debian.org, download the deb, the deps you need, dpkg -i them |
| 16:21.51 | nkuttler | alexey: assuming you have access to any box with internet |
| 16:21.55 | alexey | Ok, ty all |
| 16:22.00 | Wyzard | acu: If you've been struggling for a week to change your resolution, what troubleshooting measures have you tried so far? |
| 16:22.07 | alexey | I need iwconfig to connect to the internet |
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| 16:22.32 | hikenboot | Wyzard, so if i have a 32 bit intel then i would use the i386 with bzimage? |
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| 16:22.43 | mesa_booger | alexey: you are on the internet now. just download wireless-tools |
| 16:22.46 | nkuttler | acu: X -configure, pastebin the file |
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| 16:23.10 | genia4 | Hi. Why is /etc/init.d/urandom started in rulevels 0 and 6? |
| 16:23.28 | Wyzard | hikenboot: I'm not sure what you mean by "with bzimage" -- assuming you're downloading an install CD, the format of the kernel image isn't something you need to worry about -- but yes, i386 is what you want |
| 16:23.30 | alexey | I know, I'm doing it on packages.debian.org |
| 16:23.35 | mesa_booger | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wireless-tools&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 16:23.50 | alexey | Then I can connect with SSH to my pc and install wireless-tools |
| 16:23.59 | mesa_booger | cool |
| 16:24.56 | alexey | I change LAN, I go try, ty all, see you later |
| 16:25.07 | jelly | genia4: do you see what it does? |
| 16:25.30 | hikenboot | Wyzard, i have been creating custom xen kernels with ubuntu for a while and they have always used a "make vmlinuz " which has created a vmlinuz-... in the /boot directory instead with debian I am seeing a i386 with a bzimage.. this i know is a compressed vmlinuz so I guess I just set it up similary in grub? yes no? sorry for the confusion! |
| 16:25.30 | _pseud0nym | darkblue_B: if you intend to make a separate partition as '/boot' then the '/boot' parition should be less than 1024 cylinders for the bootloader to find Kernel image |
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| 16:25.40 | Wyzard | hmm... the GNOME SMART-monitoring tool is telling me that one of my disks is "failing" becauase its reallocated sector count is 1 |
| 16:25.54 | genia4 | jelly: yes, when started - reads seed that was saved when it was stopped. |
| 16:26.01 | acu | Wyzard: thanks for asking: first I made sure that the monitor I am connecting to works (I am using this right now) so it works - second I made sure the VGA card on the computer is working (so when I connected to the lower resolution lcd monitor it works) and it works -- 3. I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (nothing changed) 4 I looked in the Xorg.conf (and since the new version nothing is configurable) - 5. It is obvious that is not the xorg.conf which needs |
| 16:26.01 | acu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.03 | titosemi | http://pastebin.com/m3326ac1c <---- what do you think?????????? |
| 16:26.04 | _pseud0nym | for bigger disks, please refer to - http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO.html |
| 16:26.07 | genia4 | jelly: I'd expect it to be started in S, and stopped in 0 and 6 |
| 16:26.14 | genia4 | jelly: but it's started in all 3 |
| 16:26.16 | Wyzard | despite the fact that the drive's self-reported health status is fine, and one reallocated sector is not really a significant problem |
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| 16:27.16 | Wyzard | hikenboot: Are you installing on bare metal, or in a Xen domU? |
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| 16:27.23 | otho | Wyzard: i hear fedora 11 takes that a step further and puts a DISK FAILING icon on your task bar that doesn't have a remove option |
| 16:27.32 | paxcoder | how to make gedit stop making foo.txt~ files? |
| 16:27.46 | hikenboot | xen dom0 with a gui so it can be a xen server and desktop...this is at home |
| 16:27.56 | Wyzard | acu: Is it an LCD, and if so, are you using VGA or DVI? |
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| 16:28.05 | visof | hello |
| 16:28.07 | acu | Wyzard: DVI |
| 16:28.09 | Wyzard | otho: That's exactly what I have |
| 16:28.47 | visof | i forgot the line which should i add to /etc/fstab to can "cut,copy" to the file systems "fat32" |
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| 16:28.58 | visof | something like umask = |
| 16:29.01 | acu | Wizard: I am thinking to copy the whole X11 folder from this computer (which works) to the computer which connects to this monitor which does not work |
| 16:29.13 | genia4 | jelly: any ideas? |
| 16:29.29 | jelly | genia4: well, the start action both loads the seed (makes sense at boot) and saves it, so no harm done |
| 16:29.35 | _pseud0nym | darkblue_B: and as far as '/swap' is concerned, place it anywhere you wish. Order doesn't matter but the swap size over 2 gigs would be an overkill |
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| 16:29.51 | genia4 | jelly: ok, understood |
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| 16:30.41 | jelly | genia4: tbh I'm not sure why either |
| 16:31.08 | hikenboot | _pseud0nym, I thought that the systems created a stage 1 and stage 2 so that 1024 cylinders dont matter any more? |
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| 16:31.30 | hikenboot | Wyzard, xen dom0 with a gui so it can be a xen server and desktop...this is at home...sorry forgot to include your irc name... |
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| 16:31.40 | Wyzard | hikenboot: Install normally from CD, then install the xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686 package |
| 16:32.09 | hikenboot | Wyzard I have to compile from source for 2.6.30...so i can get ext4 support |
| 16:32.11 | alexey | It's ok, I had to install libiw29 and wireless-tools, now it's ok |
| 16:32.14 | alexey | Ty all |
| 16:32.15 | alexey | BB |
| 16:32.26 | Wyzard | hikenboot: backports.org has 2.6.30 pacakges, though I don't know if they build the -xen flavor |
| 16:32.50 | hikenboot | I will check backports that would be simpler thanks |
| 16:33.09 | ajavid | Wyzard, not |
| 16:33.19 | Wyzard | hikenboot: I've considered using the backports 2.6.30 in a domU (where the regular kernel can be used) but would recommend sticking with the standard supported kernel in dom0 |
| 16:33.29 | _pseud0nym | hikenboot: Correct me if I am wrong, but 1024 restriction still applies specially when you have a dual boot machine with Windows, no? |
| 16:33.44 | alexey | WINDOWS IS A SHITY MAN |
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| 16:33.56 | hikenboot | _pseud0nym, i am not sure...I wish someone did! |
| 16:34.14 | Wyzard | acu: copying random files around with no idea where the problem lies isn't likely to help... if anything, it'll just break other things |
| 16:34.22 | hikenboot | Wyzard, in that case I will probably have to rebuild the machine so its using ext3 for now |
| 16:34.23 | cantido | wonders why most sane people use Xen... |
| 16:34.43 | genia4 | jelly: another question. Init scripts that are Kxx are run from 99 to 00, while Sxx are run from 00 to 99, right? |
| 16:34.52 | valan | _pseud0nym what 1024 restriction are you talking about? |
| 16:34.53 | dustybin | Caelum: kvm ftw? |
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| 16:35.00 | Wyzard | acu: From your initial description of the problem it sounded like it might have been a timing problem with the video mode you were using, but that's not applicable (afaik) with DVI |
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| 16:35.15 | Wyzard | acu: Any error messages (or just suspicious-looking messages) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 16:35.16 | hikenboot | Wyzard, problem is I hear that using ext4 greatly improves the data transfers over ext3 |
| 16:35.22 | cantido | dustybin: yes.. I don't think we need Xen to be honest |
| 16:35.26 | din_os | hello, is there any chance a win32-loader developer be here? |
| 16:35.51 | _pseud0nym | valan: that the boot partition should not exceed 1024 cylinders on HDD for bootloaders to be able to read it |
| 16:35.54 | hikenboot | cantido, if you have a 32 bit machine unfortunately i think xen is the way to go |
| 16:36.00 | dustybin | cantido: xen will be removed from the default rhel install |
| 16:36.01 | Wyzard | hikenboot: It has some advantages, but it's not overwhelmingly faster |
| 16:36.23 | valan | no that was an ancient lilo restriction iirc |
| 16:36.25 | cantido | hikenboot: if your machine doesn't have hardware vm support it's going to be painful anyhow |
| 16:36.33 | valan | we've moved past that nonsene years and years ago |
| 16:37.09 | dustybin | anybody here use RAID-1 mirror and LVM2 on your OS drive? |
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| 16:37.20 | Wyzard | dustybin: I use RAID-10, if that counts |
| 16:37.23 | _pseud0nym | So, if I am using GRUB instead of LILO, I need not worry, cool! |
| 16:37.28 | Wyzard | and LVM2, and dm-crypt |
| 16:37.31 | dustybin | Wyzard: why 10? |
| 16:37.39 | valan | even with lilo, that restriction is gone |
| 16:37.43 | Wyzard | dustybin: 5 was too slow so I added a disk and converted to 10 |
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| 16:37.50 | cantido | dustybin: raid1 root should be fine, with LVM too you probably want a /boot outside of LVM |
| 16:37.54 | valan | there's still a few modern distros that use lilo |
| 16:38.06 | dustybin | right ok thanks |
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| 16:38.14 | dustybin | i will paste my rough storage plan |
| 16:38.24 | cantido | valan: lilo isn't totally useless ;) |
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| 16:38.37 | valan | no, lilo is not at all useless |
| 16:38.45 | Wyzard | I have a separate /boot (grub2 seems to support Linux raid and lvm, but definitely doesn't support dm-crypt) |
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| 16:39.16 | valan | i honestly don't even see any point in having a seperate /boot partition anymore |
| 16:39.23 | cantido | having /boot on a partition that doesn't have any weirdness just makes life easier |
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| 16:39.42 | Wyzard | valan: can't read the kernel from an encrypted root filesystem that requires kernel facilities to decrypt |
| 16:39.42 | valan | unless you have to spread your partitions out in certain ways, then i could see it |
| 16:39.57 | fxiny | i have a dedicated ext2 /boot |
| 16:40.00 | tpocra | I need virtualbox modules package for 2.6.30 kernel... any chance of getting that somewhere? |
| 16:40.19 | poisonbit | i use to make md0 | 512M | ext3 | /boot mount option: sync |
| 16:40.21 | cantido | tpocra: use the initscript to build them |
| 16:40.25 | valan | but for most uses i mean there's no point so seperate /boot |
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| 16:40.45 | cantido | valan: if you have LVM or something that's hard to get working with grub there is a reason |
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| 16:41.17 | ranix | LVM or any RAID |
| 16:41.23 | ranix | requires boot on its own partition |
| 16:41.33 | cantido | ranix: raid1 will be fine |
| 16:41.33 | valan | lvm and raid both fit into my above statement about partitioning |
| 16:41.33 | ranix | any raid but 1 anyway |
| 16:41.34 | Wyzard | ranix: grub2 supports lvm and raid, actually |
| 16:41.38 | poisonbit | valan, for any partition, i follow this rule: has a diferent filesystem layers? has diferent mount partitions? can any user write in this mountpoint ? |
| 16:41.57 | poisonbit | s/mount partitions/mount options |
| 16:42.00 | S[h]O[r]T | is there any reason 5.0.2 does not include the latest igb module? the latest module has been released for over a month. I've tried compiling the latest igb on the same kernel version as the installer and injecting it into the initrd but the installer has issues loading the module. |
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| 16:42.11 | valan | what is meant by "different filesystem layers"? |
| 16:42.21 | iluminator101 | How do i upgrade kernel from linux terminal? |
| 16:42.22 | cantido | Wyzard: yes, but is it worth bothering when you can just setup a 200MB /boot ;) |
| 16:42.25 | poisonbit | soft raid, lvm, filesystem type... |
| 16:42.42 | cantido | iluminator101: are you running debian? |
| 16:42.49 | iluminator101 | yes |
| 16:42.51 | darkblue_B | hi- thx for the followup., I use grub, and no winblows |
| 16:42.54 | valan | oh yeah ok |
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| 16:42.57 | Wyzard | cantido: 200MB is overkill (even 100MB is plenty) |
| 16:43.00 | abrotman | iluminator101: what is your CPU ? |
| 16:43.02 | cantido | iluminator101: aptiude install linux-image-something |
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| 16:43.08 | valan | all of which fit into my above statement about partitioning |
| 16:43.09 | dustybin | this is a rough plan of how i want to build my future server, does this configuration look ok: http://paste.debian.net/40906/plain/40906 |
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| 16:43.29 | cantido | Wyzard: well, still a native /boot partition makes like easier on X86 |
| 16:43.30 | iluminator101 | cpu intel core duo |
| 16:43.36 | poisonbit | iluminator101, if you want, you have 2.6.30 for lenny (in .deb) in backports.org |
| 16:43.45 | abrotman | iluminator101: aptitude install linux-image-686 |
| 16:44.32 | jelly | genia4: Both are run 00..99 afair, but man init |
| 16:44.34 | iluminator101 | say i want to do 2.6.30 it will aptitude install linux-image-686-2.6.30* or |
| 16:44.39 | Wyzard | dustybin: raid-5 is relatively slow at writing, but if this is a fileserver and not a desktop system that's probably OK |
| 16:44.48 | abrotman | iluminator101: why would you need to do that? |
| 16:45.07 | Wyzard | dustybin: (I switched from 5 to 10 because heavy disk I/O made my whole desktop very sluggish) |
| 16:45.10 | iluminator101 | i want that kernel 2.6.30 |
| 16:45.28 | dustybin | Wyzard: this is for my server only, my desktop will access the partitions via NFS |
| 16:45.39 | mesa_booger | Wyzard: good for you. raid5 doth suck most profusely |
| 16:45.39 | dustybin | but no major writing |
| 16:45.49 | jelly | S[h]O[r]T: Debian doesn't upgrade versions of software in stable unless it's extremely broken or there's a security issue than can only be mended in the newer version |
| 16:46.12 | mesa_booger | http://www.baarf.com/ |
| 16:46.29 | Wyzard | iluminator101: Are you running unstable? |
| 16:46.41 | dustybin | do you think i should use RAID-10 instead of RAID-5 ? |
| 16:46.51 | jelly | mesa_booger: meh. Just have a decent controller that checks the parity or run the parity cronjob if md raid is used |
| 16:46.55 | Wyzard | mesa_booger: What sucks most is the writes-starving-reads problem causing high latency for interactive desktop stuff |
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| 16:47.01 | iluminator101 | is this correct apt-get install linux-image-2.6.30-1-686? |
| 16:47.07 | abrotman | iluminator101: why would you need to do that? |
| 16:47.19 | iluminator101 | wyzard:no but i had sid enabled on repo |
| 16:47.20 | abrotman | iluminator101: you're not answering the question of why you need that kernel .. |
| 16:47.25 | dustybin | raid 10, isnt said as 'ten' its said as 'one zero' ? |
| 16:47.29 | cantido | jelly: I thought the md tools did that by default :) |
| 16:47.37 | iluminator101 | abortman:ext4 support |
| 16:47.40 | tpocra | RAID-5 performs fine on my server, even with an encrypted XFS filesystem |
| 16:47.56 | abrotman | shiny new shit syndrome |
| 16:48.06 | cantido | tpocra: you have a decent CPU then... |
| 16:48.07 | jelly | cantido: it's a debconf question... I don't remember what the defaults are |
| 16:48.07 | Wyzard | iluminator101: sid's linux-image-2.6-686 metapackage depends on linux-image-2.6.30-1-686; if you're using the metapackage you shouldn't need to manually install the specific 2.6.30 package |
| 16:48.08 | iluminator101 | yes |
| 16:48.18 | tpocra | cantido: Aye, two dual core opterons |
| 16:48.19 | mesa_booger | jelly: there is no known cure for raid5 in applications like sound/video recording/editing |
| 16:48.28 | S[h]O[r]T | jely: like those awesome text overlpaping issues? *rolls eyes*. do you have any suggestings on how i should be compiling a module to replace an older one in the initrd? When it trys to load the new on i compiled on same kernel version/system insmod fails. |
| 16:48.29 | Wyzard | dustybin: It's short for 1+0, but it's often pronounced "ten" |
| 16:48.32 | cantido | jelly: mmm the raids are checked daily on all my machines,.. it just seems to do that |
| 16:48.42 | jelly | mesa_booger: a decent controller with lots of cache. |
| 16:49.00 | jelly | mesa_booger: I get 700MB/s writes on raid6. |
| 16:49.02 | cantido | thought that modern cpu's were faster than raid controllers.. |
| 16:49.06 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps what sthe command to make a configure file for a application |
| 16:49.23 | iluminator101 | Thanks All I appreciate It |
| 16:49.23 | jelly | mesa_booger: (so it's an array with 22 spindles, but hey ;-) |
| 16:49.27 | cantido | bbelt16ag: what do you mean by configure file? |
| 16:49.32 | mesa_booger | jelly: no. sorry, i disagree. but hey, carry on. whatever works for you |
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| 16:49.42 | bbelt16ag | ./configure files |
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| 16:49.47 | bbelt16ag | so I can compile |
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| 16:50.21 | cantido | bbelt16ag: um... unless you know how the gnu build tools work, you're out of luck |
| 16:50.26 | jelly | mesa_booger: dunno, the reseller specifically told us they sell those boxes mostly to video editing people |
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| 16:51.30 | mesa_booger | jelly: everyone in the entire video/audio world uses raid10, that i know about. your reseller is lying thru their teeth |
| 16:51.58 | cantido | mesa_booger: if you have enough ram you would never write to disk during live recording etc |
| 16:52.17 | jelly | mesa_booger: they _can_ be configured as 10 or 50 or whatnot too |
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| 16:52.56 | `Abo | hey, I have a problem, I plugged in a new NIC, a gigabit nic |
| 16:53.20 | `Abo | and heres what I get: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth2: transmit timeout |
| 16:53.25 | `Abo | I have 3 debian servers |
| 16:53.30 | bbelt16ag | nm |
| 16:53.37 | `Abo | on the first two I plugged in the same NIC and works fine |
| 16:53.46 | `Abo | same debian installed on all, 4.2 |
| 16:53.47 | bbelt16ag | I know it works I done it before... |
| 16:53.56 | cantido | !enter |
| 16:53.56 | bbelt16ag | anyways there are pre builts so I am using those. |
| 16:54.05 | cantido | or was it return .. |
| 16:54.20 | jelly | `Abo: uname -r? |
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| 16:54.25 | valan | dpkg has been dead for a little while |
| 16:54.33 | jelly | :test |
| 16:54.37 | jelly | &test |
| 16:54.44 | valan | pokes dpkg with a toothpick |
| 16:54.47 | jelly | %test |
| 16:54.51 | jelly | @test |
| 16:55.01 | jelly | apt: test |
| 16:55.02 | apt | Failed! |
| 16:55.07 | jelly | there ya go |
| 16:55.16 | jelly | apt: enter |
| 16:55.17 | apt | the enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', exclamation mark '!', question mark '?', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 16:55.32 | `Abo | jelly, 2.6.24-etchnhalf-1-686-bigmem |
| 16:55.39 | `Abo | that message keep showing |
| 16:56.29 | jelly | `Abo: are all the servers equally network-loaded? |
| 16:57.18 | jelly | `Abo: which driver does your card use? Which vendor/model is it |
| 16:57.19 | jelly | ? |
| 16:57.23 | `Abo | jelly yes from same switch |
| 16:57.53 | jelly | `Abo: I mean, do they receive/send approximately the same amount of traffic |
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| 17:00.17 | jelly | `Abo: it could be all the servers have problems, but only one was sufficiently loaded for the problem to come up |
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| 17:01.31 | `Abo | ok the fucking retard 10/100/1000 switch I just bought needed to be restarted |
| 17:01.31 | `Abo | lol |
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| 17:01.31 | `Abo | I just bought it and I had to unplug/plug the electricity |
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| 17:01.49 | jelly | managed switches ftw |
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| 17:01.58 | cantido | dlink rock |
| 17:02.02 | justin | `Abo: did the switch cost $100 or $3000? :) |
| 17:02.19 | jelly | it smelled like $5 |
| 17:02.23 | start | My boot is stuck at busybox due to unfound UUID on my vg |
| 17:02.30 | start | any advice? |
| 17:02.36 | abrotman | you can get cheap managed switches |
| 17:02.38 | justin | start: what did you do to cause this problem? |
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| 17:02.59 | start | justin, I think I added a loop device to the vg |
| 17:03.07 | start | justin, maybe it doesnt |
| 17:03.38 | start | justin, find the loop device, and so no uuid, but why not forget about that device? |
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| 17:03.58 | justin | start: that shouldn't prevent it from booting... |
| 17:03.59 | start | is one unfound device reason enough to not enable the vg? |
| 17:04.11 | justin | start: you should be able to run the lvm commands in busybox though.. |
| 17:04.27 | start | justin, I have vgchange and lvm |
| 17:04.45 | justin | start: the other commands are all really lvm.. you can run 'lvm lvs' 'lvm pvs' etc |
| 17:04.59 | start | o |
| 17:05.02 | start | ok |
| 17:05.11 | start | I will dig some more info then |
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| 17:08.09 | start | is there a way to scroll in busybox? |
| 17:08.17 | justin | start: shift+pageup? |
| 17:08.18 | start | (I tried to pipe to more or less) |
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| 17:12.56 | start | justin, OK, ... it is that loop device, which I know by its size. The only place it appears at is in pvscan is unknow device and its size. All the other commands lvdisplay vgdisplay don't show that vg /lv at all |
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| 17:14.00 | start | but... without its name, how can I remove it? |
| 17:14.17 | justin | start: can you ignore that and just get the / vg activated? |
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| 17:14.52 | start | justin, I tried vgchange -a y, and it didn't work, is there some other switches that will make it ignore it? |
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| 17:15.03 | justin | start: did that give an error or something? |
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| 17:15.26 | `Abo | guys |
| 17:15.27 | start | justin, it complains about not finding the UUID |
| 17:15.31 | `Abo | I have problems with one machine |
| 17:15.34 | `Abo | here is my: top |
| 17:15.35 | `Abo | http://pastebin.com/m32ccf1fc |
| 17:15.41 | abrotman | `Abo: lay off the enter key |
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| 17:15.49 | `Abo | and here are my load averages: 20:15:43 up 1:05, 1 user, load average: 3.00, 3.00, 2.91 |
| 17:15.51 | Pnux | hello, im running a virtual machine using vbox and i have installed there Debian and KDE.. the host has a 1024x768px resolution, but the virtual is set to something higher (about 1200x768) and i dont have the option to set it to a lower resolution. Is this a problem with vbox, kde or debian? |
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| 17:16.18 | `Abo | the processors is an core 2 quad e8400 and I never had this problem before |
| 17:16.20 | ajavid | Pnux, tell your host xorg.conf to use 800x600 |
| 17:16.30 | ajavid | doh, your guest |
| 17:16.31 | `Abo | I changed the motherboard and since I did that the load averages are always high |
| 17:16.33 | justin | Pnux: did you install the guest editions? |
| 17:16.37 | ajavid | Pnux, tell your host to use higher |
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| 17:16.48 | maligor | Pnux, you mean you're running debian in vbox? |
| 17:16.48 | justin | er additions |
| 17:16.50 | Pnux | i cant use higher |
| 17:17.00 | ajavid | justin, autoresize won't help cuz guest is same size as host, guest needs to be smaller than 1024 |
| 17:17.01 | Pnux | maligor: both, running debian as host and in vbox |
| 17:17.16 | justin | `Abo: ps -ef |grep modprobe |
| 17:17.18 | ajavid | Pnux, guest is linux not windows, can't dymanic resize unless you set it first (afaik) |
| 17:17.39 | justin | you need the guest additions for that to work |
| 17:17.58 | Pnux | ajavid: both are debian |
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| 17:18.15 | maligor | virtualbox-ose-guest-x11? |
| 17:18.38 | justin | yeah, you need the X driver |
| 17:19.08 | `Abo | justin, http://pastebin.com/m39e18439 |
| 17:19.34 | justin | maligor: or this http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/virtualbox-ose-guest-utils/filelist |
| 17:19.54 | justin | that contains the /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vboxvideo_drv.so and /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/vboxmouse_drv.so that make X work nice |
| 17:19.55 | Pnux | justin: erhm, should i install that package in the host or the guest? |
| 17:20.00 | justin | Pnux: guest |
| 17:20.09 | maligor | weird.. the info on that one says it's non-x11 :P |
| 17:20.14 | justin | `Abo: there you go |
| 17:20.16 | Pnux | oh, i see |
| 17:20.18 | maligor | "virtualbox-ose-guest-utils - x86 virtualization solution - non-X11 guest utilities" |
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| 17:20.46 | maligor | but I'm running sid so it might be different in stable |
| 17:20.52 | Pnux | is there anyway to use the ctrl+alt+f[1-6] without using the host's? |
| 17:21.06 | `Abo | justin, what is that, I dont really understand, what should I do to fix this, please? |
| 17:21.06 | abrotman | chvt |
| 17:21.42 | \amethyst | Pnux: host+F1...F6 |
| 17:21.46 | justin | `Abo: it's hanging trying to load a driver for some pnp stuff |
| 17:21.48 | \amethyst | Pnux: where host is by default right ctrl |
| 17:22.06 | `Abo | justin, yeah it loads a bit when starting aswell |
| 17:22.06 | Pnux | \amethyst: thanks |
| 17:22.13 | `Abo | justin, but what should I do, dont really know |
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| 17:23.48 | dustybin | if you run a mail server, should your mail be stored on its own partition? |
| 17:23.50 | S[h]O[r]T | anyone have suggestions on the best way to compile a new module for use in debian-installer? |
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| 17:24.42 | abrotman | dustybin: that's up to you .. and depends on how your mail server is set up also |
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| 17:25.05 | dustybin | ok |
| 17:25.08 | cantido | dustybin: you could deliver mail to /var or /home... |
| 17:25.13 | cantido | dustybin: lots of variables |
| 17:25.22 | dustybin | are those the official places? |
| 17:25.29 | dustybin | how about i create a mail partition |
| 17:25.34 | dustybin | i guess its up to me |
| 17:25.42 | abrotman | you can put it in /crapidontcareabout/mail/ |
| 17:25.49 | dustybin | ok |
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| 17:26.07 | cantido | the debian exim by default stuff it in /var/ |
| 17:26.25 | dustybin | var = variable data? |
| 17:26.53 | dustybin | thats where live database data goes as well? |
| 17:27.04 | justin | `Abo: does this motherboard have any weird devices on it? |
| 17:27.24 | maligor | dustybin, man hier |
| 17:27.39 | dustybin | hier? |
| 17:27.42 | `Abo | justin, this is t he motherboard: asus p5kpl-am |
| 17:27.51 | genia4 | managed to cut down my debian vps to less than 30MB of ram |
| 17:27.52 | maligor | it contains descriptions of the hierarchy tree |
| 17:27.57 | dustybin | ace |
| 17:28.04 | genia4 | wonder how much mysql will add |
| 17:28.06 | dustybin | wow cool |
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| 17:28.22 | `Abo | justin if theres something ugly at it tell me I will disable the shit out of it from bios |
| 17:28.24 | abrotman | genia4: isn't that something you can configure ? |
| 17:28.27 | justin | `Abo: i think that might have something to do with the parallel port |
| 17:28.36 | genia4 | abrotman: yeah, but every program has some sort of minimum |
| 17:28.46 | dustybin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.48 | genia4 | abrotman: I don't think mysql can take less than 10mb or so |
| 17:28.48 | `Abo | justin, can I disablet that from bios? |
| 17:28.54 | justin | `Abo: worth a try |
| 17:28.58 | abrotman | genia4: but you have 4GB of RAM ? |
| 17:29.01 | `Abo | will try in a couple of mins |
| 17:29.19 | genia4 | abrotman: nope, 512MB |
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| 17:29.26 | abrotman | so what's the problem ? |
| 17:29.27 | cantido | genia4: if you don't have much ram, don't use mysql? |
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| 17:29.30 | justin | `Abo: ah... |
| 17:29.36 | lelu | hey guys |
| 17:29.41 | genia4 | cantido: tell that to the wordpress guys :( |
| 17:30.06 | cantido | genia4: doesn't wordpress use pear or adobd? |
| 17:30.11 | lelu | what could be causing my server to jump to a load of 24.57, 15.25, 9.85? |
| 17:30.15 | justin | alias pnp:dPNP0401 parport_pc |
| 17:30.24 | genia4 | cantido: they say everywhere that anything other than mysql isn't supported |
| 17:30.26 | lelu | for a good three hours |
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| 17:30.28 | justin | `Abo: so yeah, you could try blacklisting parport_pc too |
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| 17:30.36 | genia4 | don't know what they use, I just know for a fact that it's not hard to get pgsql working |
| 17:30.50 | genia4 | shitty programmers -> shitty software |
| 17:31.05 | cantido | genia4: well, when you have a big enough site and you need more than one writable copy of your database, mysql is going to disappoint you |
| 17:31.06 | `Abo | justin, how |
| 17:31.08 | abrotman | cantido: so don't use wordpress ? |
| 17:31.21 | genia4 | abrotman: checking out alternatives now... |
| 17:31.23 | abrotman | erm .. wrong person .. genia4 ^^ |
| 17:31.29 | cantido | abrotman: yes, I wouldn't to be honest |
| 17:31.30 | genia4 | I'd like to try firebird, seems interesting |
| 17:31.43 | lelu | wordpress uses mysql because its the most widly available |
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| 17:31.47 | maligor | genia4, yeah, I think it's weird too, lots of sql db's implement sometimes useful extension features tho |
| 17:31.49 | lelu | its also open source too isnt it? |
| 17:32.03 | genia4 | lelu: and it's also crap |
| 17:32.21 | lelu | genia4: explain? |
| 17:32.23 | cantido | lelu: PHP apps should use the abstraction that is available there.. to hardcode for mysql is a little silly |
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| 17:33.00 | start | anyone know how to enable a VG which one of its PV is missing? |
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| 17:33.04 | genia4 | lelu: mysql default storage engine, MyISAM, isn't ACID compliant. The engine that is ACID compliant (InnoDB), takes up a shitload of ram |
| 17:33.06 | Pnux | i bet theres a plugin that lets you use PDO with WP |
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| 17:33.25 | cantido | genia4: you don't need ACID for wordpress |
| 17:33.38 | lelu | yeah you dont need it for wordpress |
| 17:33.56 | genia4 | cantido: you want acid if you don't want your database in an inconsistent state after a power failure |
| 17:34.24 | cantido | genia4: you don't want power failure if you don't want your database to be inconsistent |
| 17:34.25 | abrotman | to be fair .. a blogging tool probably doesn't need a database at all |
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| 17:34.43 | maligor | abrotman, you mean a sql database |
| 17:34.49 | cantido | blossom is flat file iirc |
| 17:34.50 | justin | start: you didn't vgextend your volume group onto the loop device did you? |
| 17:34.51 | abrotman | maligor: i said what i meant |
| 17:34.53 | maligor | you could probably make a blogging tool using db |
| 17:34.58 | maligor | but it's a database also |
| 17:35.18 | lelu | my server has survived many a power failure over the past four years ;) although i do keep backups which have proven useful when some bastard moonman hacked my box through getting my ssh details from a keylogged work computer :/ |
| 17:35.21 | start | justin, I did |
| 17:35.25 | maligor | I guess you could just use the filesystem :P |
| 17:35.58 | start | justin, is that bad? |
| 17:36.04 | genia4 | what are goot alternatives to WP? |
| 17:36.05 | cantido | lelu: this is way you use keys |
| 17:36.17 | abrotman | genia4: it really depends on what you want to do with it |
| 17:36.38 | justin | start: yeah.. i dunno how to fix that |
| 17:36.52 | lelu | cantido: keys wont move in the fashion I choose them |
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| 17:37.09 | lelu | there are a few good alternatives to wp |
| 17:37.18 | genia4 | abrotman: write stuff :) |
| 17:37.19 | justin | start: ah |
| 17:37.25 | justin | start: try vgreduce --removemissing |
| 17:37.26 | cantido | lelu: you can use that one time password shit too |
| 17:37.34 | abrotman | genia4: a very basic one might be ikiwiki |
| 17:37.41 | cantido | genia4: "today I drank some water, it was great" sort of stuff> |
| 17:37.56 | genia4 | cantido: more or less |
| 17:38.16 | cantido | genia4: there are file based scripts that'll do that |
| 17:38.40 | lelu | cantido: i was thinking of setting up the system bskyb use on their servers. you login using username password and then have to enter a unique six digit number from this random number generator keyring thing... |
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| 17:39.20 | cantido | lelu: um I don't think thats a bskyb thing... RSA key fobs do that |
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| 17:39.59 | cantido | lelu: you can buy alternatives to the RSA fobs that'll work with PAM :) |
| 17:40.18 | lelu | cantido: yeah thats the one, we used it when we had to login remotely to bsbs datacenter. if you can find me a link it would be amazing |
| 17:40.31 | lelu | genia4: here are 19 alternatives to wordpress http://www.webdesignbooth.com/20-promising-open-source-php-content-management-systemscms/ |
| 17:40.43 | cantido | lelu: the RSA keys cost about 50 quid a piece |
| 17:40.53 | abrotman | lelu: not a CMS .. a blog |
| 17:42.00 | jpinx | anyone able to point at what to read for rotating the display on my monitor? |
| 17:42.09 | cantido | xrandr |
| 17:42.12 | abrotman | jpinx: xrandr .. not all cards support it |
| 17:42.27 | justin | lelu: one of these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecurID |
| 17:42.37 | jpinx | abrotman: cool -- thanks -- looking... |
| 17:42.52 | genia4 | lelu: thanks |
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| 17:44.44 | `Abo | justin, I disabled everything I could and now here is what I get when I do what you told me: |
| 17:44.44 | `Abo | root 1484 1 0 20:38 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/modprobe --use-blacklist pci:v00008086d000027DAsv00001043sd00008179bc0Csc05i00 |
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| 17:45.14 | justin | `Abo: try this instead.. 'ps auxw|grep D' |
| 17:45.37 | `Abo | justin, root 1484 0.0 0.0 1584 572 ? D< 20:38 0:00 /sbin/modprobe --use-blacklist pci:v00008086d000027DAsv00001043sd00008179bc0Csc05i00 |
| 17:45.45 | `Abo | same |
| 17:45.58 | `Abo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.20 | `Abo | not its lower because I have disabled those parallel port |
| 17:46.20 | `Abo | ports* |
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| 17:46.27 | justin | `Abo: yeah, D doesn't really count though |
| 17:46.53 | `Abo | what do you think this could be |
| 17:46.53 | justin | `Abo: oh, how many were stuck before? |
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| 17:47.14 | justin | `Abo: is there the other modprobe process running too, that had the pnp identifier thing? |
| 17:47.20 | justin | I dunno how to figure out what v00008086d000027DAsv00001043sd00008179bc0Csc05i00 is |
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| 17:47.29 | `Abo | justin, more, read above, I've pasted |
| 17:47.39 | `Abo | no the others arent, just this one |
| 17:47.50 | `Abo | because I disabled from bios the parallel ports |
| 17:48.55 | enouf | modules.alias |
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| 17:49.43 | justin | part of v00008086d000027DAsv00001043sd00008179bc0Csc05i00 is probably the pci id though |
| 17:49.46 | arewenothorses | Hi there, I have a daemon starting with wrong parameters and am looking into where to fix this. I've checked all the runlevel files in the /etc, but it's not there. |
| 17:50.03 | abrotman | arewenothorses: which daemon? |
| 17:50.09 | enouf | alias pci:v00008086d000027DAsv*sd*bc*sc*i* i2c_i801 |
| 17:50.10 | arewenothorses | transmission-daemon |
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| 17:50.33 | enouf | i2c_i801 module |
| 17:50.34 | justin | enouf: ah, neat |
| 17:50.48 | abrotman | arewenothorses: did you look at the init script to see where it gets the parameters from ? |
| 17:50.50 | justin | does lenny not have that file? |
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| 17:51.27 | `Abo | i2c_i801 |
| 17:51.30 | arewenothorses | abrotman: Unfortunately I haven't, is it /etc/init.d? |
| 17:51.44 | abrotman | good guess |
| 17:51.54 | enouf | modprobe -l | grep <modulename> (will list for running kernel) |
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| 17:52.13 | `Abo | -bash: alias: i2c_i801: not found |
| 17:52.52 | enouf | otherwise find /lib/modules/$KERNVER/ -name 'modulename' (or something) |
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| 17:53.47 | arewenothorses | abrotman: The parameter I'm worried about (--auth) is not even mentioned there. |
| 17:53.58 | lelu | abrotman: any blogging software is a content management system :P |
| 17:54.09 | abrotman | lelu: but not all CMS is blogging software |
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| 17:54.22 | abrotman | arewenothorses: is there something in /etc/default/ ? |
| 17:54.26 | lelu | true, i suppose |
| 17:55.03 | arewenothorses | abrotman: Thank you, /etc/default/transmission-daemon is where I can modify it. |
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| 17:59.28 | `Abo | justin, any idea? |
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| 17:59.48 | justin | `Abo: google for issues with i2c_i801, maybe just disable that module |
| 17:59.53 | justin | `Abo: or like I said before, just ignore it |
| 17:59.59 | `Abo | doesnt find that module |
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| 18:00.16 | enouf | justin: `Abo if the PCIID is; 8086:1049 then; |
| 18:00.17 | enouf | judd> [8086:1043] is '03b CUBX-L/E Mainboard' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'ipw2200' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1043 |
| 18:00.19 | judd | enouf: Error: "8086:1043" is not a valid command. |
| 18:00.26 | enouf | er :1043 i meant |
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| 18:00.45 | start | justin, I did this with --test and it turns out it will remove also my real data LV due to "failed to find mirror_seg for dataLV Removeing dataLV from VG myVG" |
| 18:00.51 | ian_ | Hi all |
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| 18:01.12 | justin | start: i dunno... |
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| 18:01.40 | Igloo | I'm trying to install from a USB key, but the "scan hard drives for an installer ISO image" step is failing. I have a file /hd-media/mini.iso. How do I tell the installer to use that? |
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| 18:01.55 | `Abo | enouf, what do you think I should do in this case? |
| 18:02.23 | justin | `Abo: I have /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-i810.ko |
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| 18:02.40 | enouf | `Abo: i have no idea what the issue is - just lending a hand from the sidelines ;-) |
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| 18:03.11 | `Abo | justin, I run 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686-bigmem |
| 18:03.33 | enouf | `Abo: modprobe -l | grep i2c_i810 |
| 18:03.44 | `Abo | none |
| 18:04.22 | dondelelcaro | Igloo: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=414018 |
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| 18:04.36 | `Abo | enouf, nothing there |
| 18:04.45 | enouf | `Abo: try modprobe -l | grep i2c-i810 |
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| 18:05.01 | enouf | with hyphen instead of underscore |
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| 18:05.29 | `Abo | enouf, its there: /lib/modules/2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686-bigmem/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-i810.ko |
| 18:05.31 | enouf | (just in case, though both should return, i've seen that not always be the case) |
| 18:06.20 | Igloo | dondelelcaro: Hmm, I don't think that's what was happening to me. But I found http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-06/msg00420.html which suggests I need to tell the BIOS to treat USB devices as HDs, so maybe both things are wrong |
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| 18:08.46 | BleSS | (ruby) when a gem is installed where are installed the binaries of it (if it has any)? |
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| 18:08.50 | Igloo | Hmm, hope not, because I can't see that in the BIOS |
| 18:08.50 | `Abo | enouf, it is there, see above |
| 18:08.57 | dondelelcaro | Igloo: no, you just need to not use the mini.iso. |
| 18:08.57 | `Abo | enouf, what should I do in this case? |
| 18:09.02 | dondelelcaro | Igloo: use a real iso |
| 18:09.10 | dondelelcaro | Igloo: like the netinst or similar |
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| 18:09.24 | enouf | `Abo: see above ;-) enouf> `Abo: i have no idea what the issue is - just lending a hand from the sidelines ;-) |
| 18:09.27 | _abc_ | hello |
| 18:09.29 | _abc_ | has anyone built the cnij filter from the rpms for ip1200,1600 or 2200 canon printers ? |
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| 18:09.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 18:09.38 | dondelelcaro | Igloo: if you read the log, you'll see that it finds the iso, but then tells you that it's not a valid iso |
| 18:09.41 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: np |
| 18:09.41 | `Abo | k |
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| 18:09.55 | enouf | `Abo: i need to run out now too ... i'll be back later sometime ... hours |
| 18:10.06 | `Abo | k, see you, thanks |
| 18:10.41 | Igloo | dondelelcaro: Ah, yes, you are right, that is in the log the first time that step is tried, but not if you retry it, so it was off the top of the screen by the time I looked |
| 18:10.51 | enouf | no prob - `Abo 'modinfo i2c-i810' can give you some info - maybe not too useful but |
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| 18:11.01 | Igloo | dondelelcaro: Thanks! |
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| 18:15.52 | S[h]O[r]T | anyone have suggestions on the best way to compile a new module for use in debian-installer? Trying to update igb to the latest version. |
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| 18:17.11 | abrotman | S[h]O[r]T: could you just use an installer with a newer kernel ? |
| 18:17.44 | jelly | S[h]O[r]T: do you absolutely require that module for the installation to work? |
| 18:18.26 | jelly | oh, it's a network card |
| 18:18.32 | jelly | !kmuto |
| 18:18.32 | dpkg | For lenny (or etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 18:19.12 | jelly | S[h]O[r]T: see the line above for installer images with newer kernels |
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| 18:22.35 | S[h]O[r]T | yes sorry, its a network card :P. and yup i need it if i want to automate our debian installations :) *checking out that link* |
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| 18:24.19 | bahuvrihi | Someone's tried to install Debian today for 5 times. |
| 18:24.53 | Malf | Anyone know of a decent rss ticker I could toss into the gnome panel? |
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| 18:26.06 | bahuvrihi | First time he had to remove bzip2 package, and apt with it, Afterwards dpkg installing apt from /var/cache/... |
| 18:26.55 | bahuvrihi | Second time, he removed conflicting version of perl-base, with all other packeges in the system as dependencies. |
| 18:27.29 | jelly | bahuvrihi: should have just shot the bastard to ease the suffering |
| 18:27.45 | nkuttler | bahuvrihi: and told him to use the stable installer before |
| 18:27.51 | fxiny | sounds like a texas chainsaw install :P |
| 18:28.04 | bahuvrihi | Well, I used Etch installer. |
| 18:28.23 | bahuvrihi | More like a Saw-installer. |
| 18:28.24 | jelly | had to remove bzip2 package # this is the point where one starts doubting the competence of the installer person |
| 18:28.25 | nkuttler | bahuvrihi: next time, pastebin your errors here before breaking your system |
| 18:28.39 | dondelelcaro | bahuvrihi: and you really should start with the lenny installer |
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| 18:29.43 | jelly | I could see these scenarios easily happen if the etch installer defaulted to "stable" somewhere |
| 18:29.58 | anddam | when is /etc/resolv.conf rebuilt? |
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| 18:30.37 | anddam | I deleted mine and was tryint to have it rebuilt, I tried putting up and down ifaces with ifup/ifdown and stopping/starting networking |
| 18:30.40 | jelly | anddam: if you have resolvconf installed, on any interface up/down |
| 18:30.51 | S[h]O[r]T | jelly, abrotman: using the amd64 netboot from that 0627. it just seems to sit at "process:1731: INFO: kbd-mode: setting console mode to Unicode (UTF-8)" |
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| 18:31.06 | jelly | S[h]O[r]T: press ctrl-c :-D |
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| 18:31.20 | bahuvrihi | And later on, most strange things began to happen -- when upgrading to Sid it couldn't do this 'immediate configure' of some packages. |
| 18:31.35 | jelly | bahuvrihi: uhh... upgrading to sid? |
| 18:31.35 | S[h]O[r]T | does nothing :( |
| 18:31.42 | anddam | jelly: that's what I thought, and I have resolvconf installed, still I didn't get a new resolv.conf file |
| 18:32.05 | bahuvrihi | jelly: Yes! Is that wrong thing to do? |
| 18:32.18 | jelly | anddam: is there a file present at all (even just an empty one)? |
| 18:32.20 | nkuttler | bahuvrihi: you should start with a working stable system.. |
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| 18:32.30 | jelly | bahuvrihi: if you have to ask, YES |
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| 18:33.00 | jelly | bahuvrihi: sid is for experienced users that help with development, report and fix bugs in debian |
| 18:33.00 | bahuvrihi | The day before it worked somehow, with now problems at all. |
| 18:33.08 | anddam | jelly: well I ended up creating it or I couldn't have come here asking |
| 18:33.22 | anddam | jelly: iirc there was no file at all |
| 18:33.26 | jelly | anddam: problem solved! |
| 18:33.29 | jelly | runs away |
| 18:33.32 | anddam | lol |
| 18:33.35 | anddam | :-) |
| 18:33.50 | start | anyone knows if I can mount lvm lv from busybox? |
| 18:34.20 | bahuvrihi | Is testing okay then? If one just wants more up to date programs? |
| 18:34.35 | nkuttler | bahuvrihi: no. use backports. |
| 18:34.44 | anddam | btw where should DNS info go? /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 18:35.54 | jelly | anddam: you can put dns-search and dns-nameservers there in an inet static definition and it'll be managed by resolvconf, aye |
| 18:36.26 | anddam | jelly: next question coming (wait for it) |
| 18:36.42 | anddam | jelly: why does man interfaces not mention dns-nameservers option? is that resolvconf related? |
| 18:36.48 | jelly | anddam: yup |
| 18:37.06 | jelly | anddam: there are lots of packages that bring additions to interfaces syntax |
| 18:37.19 | jelly | anddam: bridgeutils, wpa-supplicant, resolvconf... |
| 18:37.31 | anddam | jelly: how should I know about interfaces options demanded to other programs? /usr/share/doc/resolvconf in this case? |
| 18:37.43 | jelly | anddam: I'm afraid so, yes. |
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| 18:38.01 | anddam | let's continue, we're on fire this evening |
| 18:38.10 | ranix | oh boy! |
| 18:38.14 | ranix | he's on fire |
| 18:38.37 | jelly | anddam: man -k interfaces shows eg. bridge-utils-interfaces (5) here, but not resolvconf. What fun! |
| 18:39.08 | anddam | I slightly edited my keymap, only one keycode is affected, where should I put it so it's loaded at boot time? should I edit my actual keymap or create a separate file with just the small change? is that a matter of taste? |
| 18:39.51 | anddam | ranix: metaphorically, of course |
| 18:40.47 | S[h]O[r]T | any further suggestions jelly? :\ |
| 18:41.25 | jelly | S[h]O[r]T: dunno, alt-f2, alt-f3 to see where it hangs |
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| 18:42.27 | jelly | S[h]O[r]T: and miscellaneous boot options to try, or use an installer with an different kernel (2.6.28 if it's fresh enough for your card?) |
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| 18:42.54 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 18:43.08 | ranix | good evening |
| 18:43.49 | S[h]O[r]T | alt xxx doesnt work. |
| 18:43.54 | S[h]O[r]T | its just frozen :\ |
| 18:44.03 | ranix | øøø |
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| 18:44.14 | ranix | excuse me |
| 18:44.19 | iluminator101 | why is there this on netstat -g 224.0.0.251 shouldnt it be 224.0.0.0 |
| 18:45.12 | ranix | iluminator101: avahi |
| 18:45.26 | iluminator101 | whats that |
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| 18:45.41 | lelu | why am i getting connection attempts with mod_proxy showing up in a logwatch report when mod_proxy doesn't seem to be enabled? |
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| 18:46.11 | ranix | iluminator101: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=224.0.0.251 |
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| 18:46.32 | abrotman | iluminator101: google ? |
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| 18:48.18 | iluminator101 | well my evil so called sibling tries to lpf filter my connection how do i block that |
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| 18:50.22 | ranix | iluminator101: lol that's awesome |
| 18:51.23 | iluminator101 | from my understanding 224.0.0.251 can be using to route dns through the router which is bad... |
| 18:51.29 | lelu | again what would cause a 15m load spike of 26? |
| 18:51.42 | lelu | on a server |
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| 18:52.43 | iluminator101 | can someone point me to a guide on hardening your debian desktop? |
| 18:54.01 | abrotman | !harden |
| 18:54.01 | dpkg | hmm... harden is D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
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| 18:56.56 | iluminator101 | Hi, i am new at this, so i remove avahi without it affecting my system right? |
| 18:57.13 | ranix | !avahi |
| 18:57.13 | dpkg | avahi is probably a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network. This means that you can plug your laptop or computer into a network and instantly be able to view other people who you can chat with, find printers to print to or find files being shared. |
| 18:57.28 | ranix | signs point to yes |
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| 18:58.03 | Zvpun | what do I have to do to get sound back once pulseauido got installed nothing works anymore (I think) |
| 18:58.14 | iluminator101 | yea but its can also be route your dns headers through the router |
| 18:58.21 | iluminator101 | used to* |
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| 18:59.09 | sauvin | Zvpun, I tried Ubuntu 9.mumble; its pulseaudio screwed the pooch bigtime, and I found no fix for it. Ubuntu went byebye. |
| 18:59.22 | debuz | Hey guys... how do I find out witch dev is my cdrom reader? |
| 18:59.36 | sauvin | debuz, it's internal? |
| 18:59.42 | debuz | yes sauvin |
| 18:59.54 | sauvin | looks |
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| 19:00.28 | sauvin | Mine has a symlink /dev/cdrom that's a symbolic link to /dev/hda |
| 19:00.49 | debuz | hmm yeah |
| 19:00.49 | debuz | mine doesn't have that symlink |
| 19:00.50 | maligor | Zvpun, pulseaudio probably reserves the hardware device |
| 19:00.55 | debuz | fstab says its /dev/scd0 |
| 19:00.59 | debuz | but this device does not exist |
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| 19:01.11 | sauvin | o.O |
| 19:01.29 | maligor | Zvpun, if you really want to use it, you'd have to reconfigure everything to route through to pulseaudio |
| 19:01.29 | debuz | yeah =D |
| 19:01.51 | sauvin | lspci on my end just lists controllers, too... hrm... |
| 19:02.32 | maligor | debuz, fstab might be out of date |
| 19:02.48 | sauvin | fstab has nothing to do with /dev/scd0 not existing. |
| 19:03.02 | maligor | debuz, you can check /dev/cdrw also |
| 19:03.07 | debuz | hmm let me see |
| 19:03.23 | mmind | debuz, also check /dev/sr0 |
| 19:03.40 | debuz | nope =( |
| 19:03.42 | maligor | udev should create those aliases tho |
| 19:03.54 | maligor | or symlinks rather |
| 19:03.56 | sauvin | do an lhsw | less and search for cdrom, debuz |
| 19:04.13 | at0m | Zvpun: dpkg -P pulseaudio |
| 19:04.27 | debuz | let me check that |
| 19:04.50 | debuz | there is no such cmd, sauvin |
| 19:04.53 | debuz | where do I get lhsw? |
| 19:05.07 | sauvin | I forget what package it's in, or even if I had to install it or not. |
| 19:05.08 | sauvin | Moment. |
| 19:05.20 | at0m | apt-cache search lshw |
| 19:05.32 | debuz | at0m: yep, done that |
| 19:05.46 | sauvin | apt-get install lshw, looks like. |
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| 19:06.02 | debuz | sauvin: hmm I dont have that pack on my sources, then |
| 19:06.10 | debuz | could u paste me your sources on private? |
| 19:06.13 | sauvin | You needs more sources! |
| 19:06.16 | debuz | yeah =D |
| 19:06.18 | sauvin | No. Moment. |
| 19:06.20 | the_dark_warrio | Is it possible to list all packages installed on the system from one specific source? |
| 19:06.20 | at0m | ls -alh /dev/cdrom |
| 19:06.41 | debuz | there isn't any symlinks, at0m |
| 19:06.47 | at0m | debuz: /dev/cdrom would be a link to the device |
| 19:06.48 | at0m | oh |
| 19:07.29 | sauvin | debuz, http://pastebin.com/f5616de1d |
| 19:07.34 | debuz | thx sauvin |
| 19:08.51 | nkuttler | the_dark_warrio: source as in mirror? |
| 19:09.29 | debuz | sauvin: there's nothing different in yours |
| 19:09.35 | debuz | sauvin: I have those sources... o_O |
| 19:09.44 | the_dark_warrio | nkuttler: I added a source from a PPA, but some packages conflicted. I wanted to revert to the original state |
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| 19:10.00 | debuz | lhsw, right? |
| 19:10.11 | sauvin | lshw |
| 19:10.22 | nkuttler | the_dark_warrio: ppa? |
| 19:10.28 | sauvin | "LiSt HardWare" |
| 19:10.29 | debuz | af... lol |
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| 19:10.32 | debuz | ok thx, w8 a min |
| 19:10.47 | mesa_booger | personal apackage archive. a ubuntu thing |
| 19:11.02 | sauvin | .oO(w-huit? que'est-ce que c'est que ca, "w8"?) |
| 19:11.32 | debuz | w8 c'est wait =) |
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| 19:11.53 | anddam | bye thanks |
| 19:12.00 | the_dark_warrio | nkuttler: yes, I've added the sources from this link https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa so I could upgrade my PiTiVi, but the gstreammer packages bugged my sound. |
| 19:12.11 | mesa_booger | the_dark_warrio: remove the source lines, and run synaptic. the new stuff should appear as "local or obsolete" and you can then delete/revert them |
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| 19:12.24 | the_dark_warrio | I see |
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| 19:13.13 | mesa_booger | of course, all the proper people use a clome script to autorestore their system after messing around ... |
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| 19:14.32 | the_dark_warrio | I should learn about this clome script... I always mass with my system ;) |
| 19:15.03 | abrotman | the_dark_warrio: which version of debian is this? |
| 19:15.29 | the_dark_warrio | abrotman: actually, it is ubuntu |
| 19:15.58 | abrotman | the_Dathen you should go ask #ubuntu |
| 19:16.01 | abrotman | the_dark_warrio: |
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| 19:17.37 | the_dark_warrio | but the problem isn't really related to that. And mesa_booger gave me good tips :) I think I can handle it now |
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| 19:17.49 | Igloo | Is there an easy way to use a newer kernel with the lenny installer? |
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| 19:18.36 | c0m1 | hi. has anyone used that new <video> tag with Firefox 3.5. I was trying to embed ogv file, and it doesn't seem to be working |
| 19:18.51 | maligor | youtube has a demo |
| 19:18.55 | the_dark_warrio | thanks everyone, cya! |
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| 19:19.02 | sauvin | Igloo, be careful with newer kernels. I understand things like some graphics card drivers aren't supported yet. |
| 19:19.04 | abrotman | Igloo: /msg dpkg kmtuo |
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| 19:19.07 | Igloo | Presumably I can't just take files from the kernel packages, as initrd.gz has both kernel-specific modules and the actual installer? |
| 19:19.21 | maligor | I don't think html5 included ogg tho |
| 19:19.33 | Igloo | abrotman: <dpkg> bugger all, i dunno |
| 19:19.39 | Igloo | sauvin: I don't follow |
| 19:19.41 | abrotman | Igloo: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 19:19.48 | abrotman | it would help if i spelled it correctly |
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| 19:20.00 | Igloo | sauvin: I'm mostly interested in having a kernel that supports a network interface so I can install, at the moment |
| 19:20.02 | maligor | c0m1, but that's pretty OT anyway |
| 19:20.18 | sauvin | Igloo, I don't understand. |
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| 19:20.27 | Igloo | abrotman: Thanks! |
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| 19:21.12 | c0m1 | maligor: OT? |
| 19:21.18 | maligor | off-topic |
| 19:21.30 | maligor | html5 and firefox 3.5 aren't exactly debian |
| 19:21.47 | c0m1 | oops, sorry, thought I had the Linux channel open |
| 19:22.28 | nkuttler | c0m1: anyway, http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody |
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| 19:24.00 | c0m1 | nkuttler: thx |
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| 19:31.34 | hyksos | hi, i try to download recursivly a part of a http server, does someone know a tool that can do that? |
| 19:31.59 | sauvin | wget? |
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| 19:33.01 | hyksos | i tried wget -r -l 0 --noparent but this command donwloaded also other directories and left some files out in the dir it should download |
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| 19:33.48 | hyksos | sauvin: you know better options for wget? |
| 19:33.51 | vy | Hi! How can I uncompress a kernel image, i.e. vmlinuz? |
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| 19:34.08 | sauvin | No, I don't :( |
| 19:34.20 | nkuttler | vy: doesn't file tell you which compression was used? |
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| 19:35.18 | maligor | the kernel image would have the uncompressor infront of it |
| 19:35.20 | vy | nkuttler: No it doesn't. OTOH, it doesn't have a plain bzip2/gzip compression. |
| 19:35.43 | maligor | otherwise the bootloader would have to understand the compression |
| 19:36.26 | vy | maligor: I was thinking the same. But I don't know how to utilize that algorithm code, or finding the offset of the actual compressed image. |
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| 19:37.30 | hyksos | objcopy -j .kernel:vmlinux -O binary vmlinuz vmlinux.gz |
| 19:37.32 | hyksos | |
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| 19:39.21 | vy | hyksos: Good catch! Is it possible to reverse that operation? |
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| 19:39.42 | hyksos | vy:what do you mean? |
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| 19:40.28 | vy | Hrm... Nevermind. |
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| 19:40.56 | vy | hyksos: objcopy: vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686: File format not recognized |
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| 19:41.21 | maligor | that's what the -O binary was I think |
| 19:43.05 | vy | ? |
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| 19:43.42 | maligor | wouldn't it be -I binary |
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| 19:44.15 | maligor | or I guess -B binary |
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| 19:44.52 | jeeves | how can I search the entire file system for a string inside a file? I can't for the life of me remember where I put this file, but I know the output strong |
| 19:44.55 | jeeves | *string |
| 19:45.29 | Tramp | jeeves: man grep, check -r |
| 19:45.33 | vy | maligor: objcopy: architecture binary unknown |
| 19:45.48 | jeeves | Tramp, thanks |
| 19:45.55 | Tramp | yw |
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| 19:45.59 | maligor | vy, try with -I and -O set to binary :P |
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| 19:46.42 | maligor | or -F I guess, heh |
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| 19:47.59 | jeeves | Tramp, do I use single or double quotes to wrap my string? |
| 19:49.19 | Tramp | jeeves: if the string has no single-quote, use singel quotes. |
| 19:49.33 | ranix | sssssssssss |
| 19:49.36 | ranix | I will bite you |
| 19:49.40 | jeeves | Tramp, ok, that's what I thought. thanks |
| 19:49.45 | d_b | Hi, I just installed LyX on Debian Lenny AMD64 with Gnome and the fonts on the att itself are small and very ugly and jagged. Anyone know how to fix it so they look as smooth and nice as elsewhere? |
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| 19:50.02 | ranix | d_b: antialiasing |
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| 19:51.46 | d_b | ranix: sorry but that doesn't help me much, where am I supposed to do this? |
| 19:51.49 | ranix | d_b: check http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Fonts |
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| 19:52.23 | ranix | remember that your screen fonts may substantially differ from the fonts used in the document |
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| 19:52.49 | ranix | LyX is not a document editor, it's a typesetting tool |
| 19:52.56 | sepult | unpacks a sack of bones! |
| 19:53.06 | ranix | it may be out-of-scope for the project to worry about antialiasing, FYI |
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| 19:53.28 | d_b | ranix: Ah QT settings, thanks |
| 19:53.29 | _abc_ | has anyone used this: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=42851 |
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| 19:53.50 | _abc_ | i have a serious problem in that i am on oldstable and cant compile the thing |
| 19:53.53 | ranix | If I can't help, I can help you help yourself at least ;) |
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| 19:54.26 | xsdg | how can I tell whether one version is greater than another? Specifically, dpkg is complaining that 2.8~20080505-0ubuntu7 is not >= 2.8, which I don't understand |
| 19:54.34 | _abc_ | seriously, i cannot be the only guy trying to use an ip1600 on debian ? |
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| 19:54.48 | krm | Hello! I'd dist-upgraded Debian today and now my system halts whenever I start X. I doesn't seem to find such bugreport related to xserver-video-intel, may be someone can remember such? |
| 19:54.53 | xsdg | like, is there an option I can run dpkg with to tell me "foo >= bar" or not? |
| 19:55.11 | jelly-home | xsdg: a) ~ in the version means "a bit less than" |
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| 19:55.29 | jelly-home | xsdg: b) don't install ubuntu packages on Debian |
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| 19:55.40 | xsdg | jelly-home: your first answer was sufficient; thanks |
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| 19:56.06 | jelly-home | xsdg: usually used for release candidate versions and similar |
| 19:56.22 | xsdg | jelly-home: ::nod:: |
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| 19:56.36 | d_b | http://sokito.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/qt4-antialiasing-problem-in-debian/ what does he mean in the last part with "link it"? How do I do that? And is /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-antialias.conf supposed to be empty? It was for me. |
| 19:56.46 | jelly-home | xsdg: and to answer the question, man dpkg will tell you about --compare-versions |
| 19:57.00 | xsdg | jelly-home: cool; thanks again |
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| 19:57.41 | krm | may be there is easy way to downgrade debian to more or less stable state? |
| 19:57.53 | ranix | _abc_: there appears to be no linux driver |
| 19:57.57 | ranix | _abc_: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&tabact=DownloadDetailTabAct&fcategoryid=357&modelid=11642 |
| 19:58.06 | maligor | downgrading isn't exactly a supported procedure |
| 19:58.06 | ranix | _abc_: I suggest you may be wasting your time |
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| 19:58.21 | _abc_ | the driver is the one for ip2200 and it exists, but i have binaries |
| 19:58.33 | _abc_ | ip1200, 1600 and 2200 share the same engine |
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| 19:59.12 | ranix | the canon site has no 1200 or 2200 |
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| 19:59.51 | [US]shootm3h | hi chaps, i'm trying to use gparted to format a partition, however it only gives me ext2 and ext3 and unformatted as options to use, all the others are greyed out?! |
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| 20:00.43 | ranix | [US]shootm3h: use fdisk instead |
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| 20:01.12 | rafael | what version? |
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| 20:02.33 | _abc_ | ranix: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0024301.asp?model= |
| 20:02.46 | _abc_ | the question was, how to compile it not how to get it :) |
| 20:03.25 | S[h]O[r]T | jelly: the daily netinstall cd from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso works great to solve my issue. any idea if there is a daily netboot of these? I tried extracting the initrd and vmlinuz and it booted great but its looking for /mnt/cdrom paths assumingly because it thinks its a cd. |
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| 20:04.18 | jelly-home | S[h]O[r]T: don't know the innards of the installer that well, sorry |
| 20:04.55 | jelly-home | S[h]O[r]T: #debian-boot on irc.debian.org is for d-i people |
| 20:04.57 | ranix | _abc_: do you need them for something besides i386? |
| 20:05.03 | S[h]O[r]T | thanks |
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| 20:05.35 | _abc_ | ranix: no, but the ldlibs linked in do not equal what i have on oldstable |
| 20:05.45 | _abc_ | the usual reason for recompiling stuff |
| 20:05.59 | _abc_ | see this howto: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=42851 |
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| 20:06.17 | [US]shootm3h | ranix, i already have the partition there, assume i need to use something like mkfs. but i want to actually format it hfs+ |
| 20:06.22 | rahsputin | hi, i am using iceweasel an in the right top corner below is a searchbar where i can adjust searches from google - wikipedia and so on, since i am in germany i would like the searches to refer to i.e. de.wikipedia.org or google.de where can i adjust these settings? |
| 20:06.25 | rahsputin | scratch <below> ;) |
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| 20:07.16 | ranix | _abc_: wow, I unpacked the rpm and am looking at it |
| 20:07.24 | ranix | _abc_: good luck with that |
| 20:07.42 | ranix | _abc_: you got a pile of shit in that tgz |
| 20:07.53 | ranix | completely undocumented shit |
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| 20:09.35 | ranix | _abc_: if you unpack the RPM for cnijfilter-ip2200-2.60-1.i386.rpm |
| 20:09.37 | _abc_ | ranix: would I be asking otherwise ? |
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| 20:09.54 | ranix | _abc_: then unpack the tar.gz that THAT unpacks |
| 20:10.08 | ranix | _abc_: you get a real directory structure with a makefile |
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| 20:10.23 | _abc_ | i did and then i did this: for r in `ls *.rpm`; do echo "$r"; sudo alien --to-deb --scripts "$r"; done |
| 20:10.24 | Arrowmaster | rahsputin: goto de.wikipedia.org, click the down arrow next to the searchbar and 'Add "Wikipedia (de)"' |
| 20:10.31 | _abc_ | now i have a pile of debs |
| 20:11.09 | _abc_ | ranix: the question was, what am i doing wrong then trying to compile the mess |
| 20:11.27 | _abc_ | by the way, what's the status of crackberry support in debian ? |
| 20:11.43 | _abc_ | i know barry and incomplete support of various functions |
| 20:11.54 | ranix | _abc_: well first of all this doesn't make much sense to me because it looks like it drops a pile of junk in /usr/bin and /usr/lib |
| 20:12.18 | ranix | _abc_: What are you going to be using to actually print to this beast, CUPS? LPRNG? |
| 20:12.19 | _abc_ | ranix: see the howto, the locations are not ok due to debianness of cups |
| 20:12.25 | _abc_ | cups |
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| 20:12.40 | _abc_ | i already used a canon mp240 in this config, and it worked fine |
| 20:12.49 | _abc_ | drivers compiled from source, but by hand, not via deb |
| 20:12.51 | ranix | _abc_: I think you may be outside the scope of what I can help with, you have a real whopper |
| 20:12.59 | _abc_ | imho distributing deb only is a sin |
| 20:13.02 | ranix | I'd check out a cups IRC room and ask |
| 20:13.11 | ranix | deb only or rpm only is a sin |
| 20:13.14 | _abc_ | ranix: yeah, i'll work a little on it :) |
| 20:13.20 | [US]shootm3h | ok ok, after a little bit of pack installing my gparted now lights up like a christmas tree except for HFS+ i have install the hfsplus package, any body have any experience with formatting a drive HFS+ ? |
| 20:13.20 | ranix | again, good luck |
| 20:13.32 | rahsputin | Arrowmaster oh wow... i just pushed the downbutton and theres and option to Manage Search Engines lol |
| 20:13.41 | rahsputin | Arrowmaster thanx ;) |
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| 20:14.30 | kaktycenok | hello |
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| 20:15.05 | kaktycenok | I want to estiblish a bluetooth Network Access Point but I've got a problem |
| 20:16.09 | kaktycenok | For Internet I've got ppp0 - a pptp connection |
| 20:16.11 | ranix | [US]shootm3h: mkfs.hfsplus |
| 20:16.14 | kaktycenok | *ppp0 |
| 20:16.33 | rahsputin | Arrowmaster now i see, great stuff!! |
| 20:16.35 | ranix | [US]shootm3h: in the package hfsplus-tools |
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| 20:16.55 | Sosnix | who is |
| 20:17.00 | sladi | rahsputin, google mycroft. On that page are ots of search engines in dirfferent languages. |
| 20:17.03 | Tapout | does anyone know when postgresql-8.4 in lenny-backports will support amd64 ? ----> http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/postgresql-8.4 |
| 20:17.17 | Tapout | is there a way to see if it's queued and the backports system is awaiting time to allow it to show? |
| 20:17.18 | abrotman | again? |
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| 20:18.16 | [US]shootm3h | ranix, not got that package i'll check debian packages online. thanks very much for the info. |
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| 20:18.49 | Tapout | abrotman, is that again to me? :) |
| 20:19.00 | Tapout | yesterday you helped me figure out the powerpc thing ;) |
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| 20:19.44 | Tapout | I've grabbed the sid backport, did the -s build thingy, generated the *.deb's and installed them. it works but I'm not sure I should be using my own, when I should be awaiting the actual backport |
| 20:19.54 | ranix | I'm sorry, [US]shootm3h, the package is simply called "hfsplus" |
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| 20:20.32 | [US]shootm3h | ranix, well i double checked now since you said and the hfsplus one has appeared. thanks very much again :) |
| 20:20.39 | ranix | anytime |
| 20:20.47 | start | how do I start mdadm from a live cd? |
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| 20:21.20 | xsdg | start: what do you mean by "start"? |
| 20:21.26 | [US]shootm3h | ranix, Initialized /dev/sdb2 as a 145 GB HFS Plus volume. nice one :D ;) |
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| 20:21.36 | xsdg | if you just mean "run," if it's in the path, it should just work |
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| 20:21.43 | ranix | ;) |
| 20:21.47 | start | xsdg, make it recognize the arrays I ahve |
| 20:22.06 | xsdg | start: is there a command like mdadm-startall or something? |
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| 20:23.13 | [sr] | howdy people |
| 20:23.26 | xsdg | moo |
| 20:23.35 | [sr] | what's the package name, and how to disable/configure the automatic detection of new hardware? |
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| 20:23.56 | [sr] | i want to disable this 'cause of new NIC's on the machine, i want to be me specifying the order for them |
| 20:24.36 | xsdg | [sr]: I think the answer that you don't want is "control that with udev" |
| 20:24.43 | xsdg | but that's likely the correct answer |
| 20:25.49 | [sr] | hum |
| 20:25.55 | [sr] | at least that's something to look for |
| 20:26.06 | [sr] | package udev, ok :P |
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| 20:27.39 | dbbolton | where can i find a list of packages installed by "laptop" in the selecte/install software part of the installer? |
| 20:27.41 | [sr] | another thing, if it's someone out there, to when mysql 5.1x on SID? |
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| 20:29.11 | abrotman | dbbolton: man tasksel |
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| 20:32.02 | maligor | [sr], you mean 5.1.x? |
| 20:32.52 | maligor | I guess the correct answer is when it gets out of experimental :P |
| 20:33.28 | kaktycenok | only 1 question, is it able to see what I am typing? |
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| 20:35.45 | [sr] | maligor yes! |
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| 20:36.08 | maligor | [sr], you can get it from experimental if you really want it |
| 20:36.22 | [sr] | maligor well, MySQL has defined it as stable since 5.1.34, and it's no 5.1.36 right now |
| 20:36.39 | [sr] | nah...i'll wait for its inclusion on SID :P |
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| 20:37.01 | maligor | experimental packages have always worked for me (tm) |
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| 20:37.01 | abrotman | ITYM Sun |
| 20:37.14 | maligor | never tried mysql from experimental tho |
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| 20:37.18 | maligor | just kde4 |
| 20:37.24 | maligor | or was it gnome |
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| 20:38.00 | maligor | you could also just forget mysql and use postgre instead :P |
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| 20:38.16 | kaktycenok | AM I SEEN? |
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| 20:38.39 | [sr] | maligor nah, i'm a mysql guy! |
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| 20:45.16 | gaintsura | is there an equalizer app anywhere? something to interface between the sound driver and the sound to alter the output? |
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| 20:45.52 | sepult | ladspa-tools |
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| 20:48.49 | gaintsura | sepult: I'm not seeing that package.. I see these : |
| 20:48.50 | gaintsura | ladspa-sdk - sample tools for linux-audio-dev plugin architecture |
| 20:48.50 | gaintsura | libladspa-ocaml - OCaml bindings for linux-audio-dev plugin architecture |
| 20:48.50 | gaintsura | libladspa-ocaml-dev - OCaml bindings for linux-audio-dev plugin architecture |
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| 20:48.57 | gaintsura | fail |
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| 20:50.27 | Pavel_ | On paste inkscape is crashing. How do I fix this? |
| 20:51.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | works fine here.. |
| 20:51.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | try to paste simpler stuff |
| 20:51.56 | sepult | gaintsura: apt-cache search ladspa |
| 20:52.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | make a minimal example... write a bugreport |
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| 20:52.32 | sepult | gaintsura: tap-plugins vco-plugins mcp-plugins sox ladspa-sdk |
| 20:52.36 | abrotman | Pavel_: which version of inkscape, and what are you pasting? |
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| 20:53.06 | Pavel_ | On paste they write tmp file in root - /. |
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| 20:53.54 | acu | guys - I just found something incredible - Debian project has no specific team for the Desktop - is that true ? (it will make sense why the most basic features you might thing of a Desktop are not integrated to begin with) |
| 20:53.58 | Pavel_ | Insk 0.46-9 |
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| 20:54.34 | cahoot | acu: define desktop? |
| 20:54.43 | abrotman | Pavel_: did you check the BTS? |
| 20:55.07 | Pavel_ | I am pasting png image from gimp. |
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| 20:57.35 | acu | cahoot: an operating system which incorporates and makes possible at minimum to use a GUI to access your hard disks, cd drives, scanner, printer, to connect to network, to browse the internet, to videochat to edit movies and documents - this and tons more should enable any human in 2009 to use a computer without in depth knowledge of the innerworkings of the operating system - |
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| 20:58.55 | Pavel_ | I not find this bug in BTF. |
| 20:59.37 | cahoot | acu: ok - sounds like my basic debian + gnome |
| 20:59.49 | jelly-home | acu: that's not incredible at all |
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| 21:00.35 | Kano | hi, did anybody notice, that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is broken with latest lenny update? |
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| 21:01.16 | simonrvn | acu: maybe you should start by disabusing yourself of prejudices wrt linux-based oses |
| 21:01.40 | jelly-home | simonrvn: like, expectations of things just working out of the box |
| 21:02.01 | acu | I am using Debian since 5 or more years - and so far even adding a DVD the access is denied, but let me put it this way, almost nothing works out of the box - you need to fiddle one by one with every concievable part |
| 21:02.30 | simonrvn | i haven't fiddled with much tbh, i don't know wtf you get that |
| 21:03.01 | acu | simonrvn: I am not a programmer and I am not planing to be - but I would like to work with some team so the most common sense things are enable when someone choses desktop during installation |
| 21:03.10 | simonrvn | news emacs-snapshot \o/ |
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| 21:03.21 | simonrvn | um, i'm not either. what's your point? |
| 21:03.25 | simonrvn | new* |
| 21:03.50 | simonrvn | qv. what i said about prejudices |
| 21:04.14 | jelly-home | acu: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ |
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| 21:04.47 | felipe__ | hi im trying to connect without password with ssh like i always did in debian 4 |
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| 21:05.08 | felipe__ | i had installed debian 5 and i cant do an ssh without passwd |
| 21:05.12 | simonrvn | * New snapshot (from the EMACS_23_1_RC branch) |
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| 21:05.48 | frankrizzo | Anyone familar with the udev exploit ? Short version, I think I have a box that was hit. Its loading a kernel that doesn't exist in /boot and I have another box which was installed at the same time and has the same md5s of /boot ... just makes no sense |
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| 21:06.06 | frankrizzo | When I try to reinstall udev .. I get /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.38.xs3.2.0.531.3960 has been altered. Cannot update. |
| 21:06.18 | theodred | I have been struggling on a rather annoying bug, which started coming out of nowhere. I have one key, with three uid's. I try to specify which email that I want to -se with, and gpg is stuck on signing and encrypting on my primary uid! it will only sign and encrypt with my primary uid (or last created uid) and I have also reproduced this error on finnix, knoppix and other debian lenny systems. The only way to use uid's is to gpg --ed |
| 21:06.21 | frankrizzo | That file, is the same as the other box |
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| 21:07.09 | jelly-home | frankrizzo: hm, that's not a debian kernel... which debian release are you using? Can you boot off a clean livecd? |
| 21:07.21 | abrotman | frankrizzo: that's not a debian kernel .. you could alter the kernel md5sum file to have that correct md5 |
| 21:07.38 | frankrizzo | The machie is remote, so I can't |
| 21:08.04 | jelly-home | frankrizzo: then you're fucked, because you can't trust anything on a rooted system |
| 21:08.27 | abrotman | why can't you ? |
| 21:08.37 | dmoerner | frankrizzo, are you sure there isn't just a dud entry in /var/lib/initramfs-tools? |
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| 21:08.46 | jelly-home | frankrizzo: arrange for a boot off clean media, or reinstall and restore data from a backup |
| 21:08.53 | frankrizzo | I know md5 has collisions, but also matched them up with sha1 and they match |
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| 21:09.34 | dmoerner | nevermind, looks like the problem is bigger than that |
| 21:10.05 | frankrizzo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.17 | start | with mdadm disks can I know which disk is the target of a resync? |
| 21:10.30 | frankrizzo | the hosting provider setup the box, so I don't know where the heck they got that kernel from |
| 21:10.47 | enouf | frankrizzo: what happens when you dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-version? |
| 21:11.16 | frankrizzo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.19 | enouf | start: mdadm --detail --scan? |
| 21:11.52 | enouf | start: something like that - you do know about /etc/cron.d/mdadm and /etc/default/mdadm? |
| 21:12.19 | delcoyote | hi |
| 21:12.29 | frankrizzo | how can I force it to install debian kernel ? |
| 21:12.43 | enouf | frankrizzo: version == $KERNVER |
| 21:13.03 | start | enouf, no |
| 21:13.19 | enouf | start: now you do ;-) |
| 21:14.01 | frankrizzo | ? |
| 21:14.04 | enouf | cat /proc/mdstat (see if anything interesting is there) |
| 21:15.48 | enouf | frankrizzo: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) (or the correct $KERNVER) |
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| 21:17.20 | Canar | Hey, I just installed Debian squeeze on my netbook (LG X120) and though the network worked for the net installer, it's not working for the installed system. |
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| 21:17.27 | Canar | Any suggestions on how to fix that? |
| 21:18.20 | start | enouf, it say sundy |
| 21:18.27 | start | enouf, it is fryday |
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| 21:19.22 | simonrvn | fryday? you making some? :D |
| 21:19.43 | enouf | simonrvn: nah, /me like sundries :-P |
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| 21:21.59 | enouf | start: if you mean, the /etc/cron.d/mdadm shows it happening on a Sunday, and today is Friday, that's fine - i'm not saying that file was the _cause_ of the redundancy check if that's what you meant. If you mean resync, as in 'i just replaced a disk and want to know which disk/partition is being resynced'; the answer is, the whole array is |
| 21:22.54 | acu | is anyone here able to tell me how the new xorg works on lenny ? I want to make a box show X in high def and it does not (I know it works with 1024X768) - and new way of xorg.conf is so screwed that is not for work |
| 21:22.56 | enouf | start: much more info in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/* (use zless to view .gz files if needed) |
| 21:23.09 | enouf | start: man mdadm, and man mdadm.conf |
| 21:23.32 | acu | if I copy the whol X11 folder from a box which works to the new one - will it work ? |
| 21:23.41 | enouf | acu: /msg dpkg hal , see last URL listed |
| 21:23.57 | start | enouf, I didn't replace any disk, it just started and I wonder what triggered it |
| 21:24.07 | simonrvn | acu: s/so screwed/you have no idea what to do/ |
| 21:24.25 | enouf | acu: any /etc/X11/xorg.conf entries will override default autodetect ones |
| 21:24.50 | enouf | start: perhaps, a faulty disk, or corrupt filesystem? |
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| 21:25.22 | enouf | start: smartctl for disks, and fsck for filesystems - /msg dpkg forcefsck (but HAVE BACKUPS! prior) |
| 21:25.33 | start | syslog have something : mdadm[3248]: Rebuild40 event detected on md devi |
| 21:25.34 | start | ce /dev/md5 |
| 21:25.36 | enouf | start: power failure? |
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| 21:26.15 | start | I don't know... there was an unexpected reboot |
| 21:26.30 | enouf | start: what raid level is the /dev/md5 array? |
| 21:26.35 | start | 5 |
| 21:26.49 | enouf | so, it likely involves 3 or 4 disks |
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| 21:27.12 | enouf | nobody would be so silly to use 1 disk with 3/4 partitions |
| 21:27.28 | jelly-home | fun! |
| 21:27.41 | enouf | start: so, /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and /proc/mdstat tells you |
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| 21:28.07 | enouf | jelly-home: USB keys x 3! :-p |
| 21:28.21 | jelly-home | that might actually work |
| 21:28.40 | enouf | it does .. but not nearly as good as one might expect |
| 21:29.06 | enouf | it's like using a flash drive for swap :-P |
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| 21:31.15 | frankrizzo | welp, gonna have my hosting provider setup a new box that I can move everything over to. Thanks for the help! :D |
| 21:32.12 | enouf | frankrizzo: don't move over the UNWANTED stuff! |
| 21:32.29 | enouf | frankrizzo: a copy of crap, is a copy of crap :-p |
| 21:33.09 | enouf | frankrizzo: reinstall from scratch - and carefully add your data once you're sure it's clean PRIOR to adding it |
| 21:33.28 | abrotman | he might not be the one doing it |
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| 21:33.40 | frankrizzo | ya thats what I am doing. I have snapshots of MySQL every 6 hours and all my code is stored in a seperate SVN server. |
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| 21:34.03 | Meiki | Is a certain package required for my server to allow packages to send emails using options such as --mailto |
| 21:34.10 | Meiki | I'm thinking yes :/ |
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| 21:34.50 | Meiki | !aptitude |
| 21:34.50 | dpkg | somebody said aptitude was a terminal-based package manager. Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu>. http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude |
| 21:34.58 | Meiki | !why aptitude |
| 21:34.58 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 21:34.59 | acu | how would I know whether an SD card I inserted is recognized ? |
| 21:35.24 | enouf | acu: dmesg | tail |
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| 21:36.51 | enouf | acu: (for recently inserted) man tail ; see the -n option ; also, /msg dpkg walot (to show us info, if needed) |
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| 21:39.05 | fogus2 | do I really have to download four DVDs to run debian? |
| 21:39.22 | rudi_s | fogus2: No, the netinstall cd is enough to get a basic installation. |
| 21:39.41 | rudi_s | Then you can download/install (with aptitude) the rest. |
| 21:39.44 | fogus2 | rudi_s: where is the netinstall cd? |
| 21:39.58 | rudi_s | fogus2: Look on debian.org |
| 21:40.10 | fogus2 | kk |
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| 21:43.44 | mrtn1231 | is it possible to install for example all "sun-java" packages? Is there something like "aptitude install sun-java-*"? |
| 21:45.22 | dkr | probably more like ~dsun-java I forget what lettre after the ~ though |
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| 21:46.51 | adb | dpkg: tell mrtn1231 about install java |
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| 21:49.00 | mrtn1231 | dkr: this java example was just an example. I mean is it possible to use some sort of variable with aptitude? For example if I want to install all packages related with X11, is there an "aptitude install X11-*" or similar option? |
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| 21:50.04 | dkr | mrtn1231: my answer remains the same. those ~ options are how you search for apattern to match package names/descriptions |
| 21:50.10 | dkr | read the aptitude docs |
| 21:50.52 | \amethyst | mrtn1231: aptitude install '~nx11' for every package whose name contains x11 |
| 21:51.04 | dkr | ah, n for name. duh :) |
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| 21:51.52 | \amethyst | mrtn1231: or aptitude install '~sx11' for everything in the "x11" section of the archive |
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| 21:52.10 | adb | mrtn1231: aptitude install xorg |
| 21:52.24 | dkr | or ~dx11 for packages with x11 in the description. fun |
| 21:52.35 | Ariel_Calzada | hi how to get a file enconding.if it's utf-8 |
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| 21:53.53 | mrtn1231 | \amethyst: this "~sx11" was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!! |
| 21:54.31 | adb | ~sxorg |
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| 21:56.26 | B1ST | is it safe upgrading "lenny" to "testing"? |
| 21:57.00 | rudi_s | !tell B1ST about testing |
| 21:57.22 | rudi_s | B1ST: Only if you know what you're doing. |
| 21:57.53 | B1ST | hmm |
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| 21:58.24 | B1ST | ok, but they removed the alsa-script in new versions... alsa will not break after the upgrade..or..? |
| 21:59.41 | Tramp | B1ST: and if you do so, you probably want to upgrade to "squeeze", not "testing" |
| 22:00.04 | B1ST | hmz, i thought "squeeze" is "testing" |
| 22:00.21 | Tramp | currently it is. |
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| 22:01.18 | B1ST | ic |
| 22:01.34 | adb | dpkg: tell B1ST about bpo |
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| 22:03.49 | B1ST | hmz, sounds interesting |
| 22:03.52 | B1ST | ty |
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| 22:06.28 | gaintsura | uhm.. alright, how can I get mysql error log NOT to log to syslog? |
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| 22:06.57 | Yurki | Does anyone have a clue why 'logwatch --mailto me@email.com' isn't sending a mail |
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| 22:07.03 | Yurki | well.. im not recieving one.. no errors shown |
| 22:07.09 | Yurki | pretty much puzzled |
| 22:08.18 | gaintsura | nvm.... I need to speak to #mysql |
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| 22:09.20 | tpocra | When I installed debian it asked if my system clock was set to UTC, and I said yes which was a mistake. It's set to my local time zone. |
| 22:09.24 | tpocra | How can I change it back? |
| 22:09.33 | Yurki | tpocra: debconf maybe |
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| 22:10.38 | craigevil | Yurki: do you have exim or another mails server actually running? |
| 22:10.54 | Yurki | craigevil: i dont run a mailserver |
| 22:11.03 | Yurki | not intetionally anyhow |
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| 22:11.57 | craigevil | logwatch Depends: perl, exim4 | mail-transport-agent , how else is it going to mail anything :) |
| 22:12.24 | Yurki | craigevil: can't it use 'mailto' |
| 22:12.27 | Yurki | i have that package installed |
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| 22:13.40 | Tramp | tpocra: man rcS. However, I recommend to set your system clock to UTC |
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| 22:15.40 | Yurki | craigevil: how to install mail-transport-agent? |
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| 22:25.59 | poisonbit | Yurki, 'mail-transport-agent' is not a real package... but it's provided by others: |
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| 22:26.01 | poisonbit | aptitude show mail-transport-agent |
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| 22:33.36 | zmen01 | can anybody tell me the sed regex to rm all lines that start with 7,8,9 or 22 ? |
| 22:33.51 | abrotman | there is a #sed |
| 22:34.02 | abrotman | and you might want to use grep instead |
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| 22:36.09 | zmen01 | is that more relevant here abrotman? |
| 22:36.37 | abrotman | man grep isn't that hard |
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| 22:37.46 | g00se | zmen01: sed -r sed -r '/^[789]|^22/d' somefile.txt |
| 22:38.01 | g00se | zmen01: sed -r '/^[789]|^22/d' somefile.txt |
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| 22:39.38 | zmen01 | thank you |
| 22:39.53 | g00se | zmen01: np |
| 22:40.08 | zmen01 | g00se, is it ok to define all regex definitions after each other inside the // ? |
| 22:40.58 | g00se | zmen01: Should be but not 100% sure what you've got in mind |
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| 22:42.53 | zmen01 | also want to have all lines removed that are in length longer than 40 chars |
| 22:43.38 | zmen01 | lets say line 4 and line 8 of a .txt file have a certain amount of chars, xx, i like to know xx.. how can i check this? |
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| 22:46.18 | patrikf | zmen01: something like | sed -ne '4 p' | wc -c should work |
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| 22:51.21 | paxcoder | is there a quick function to truncate a file? |
| 22:51.33 | paxcoder | function... utility |
| 22:51.46 | paxcoder | like empty FILE |
| 22:51.48 | patrikf | dd can be made to do it I think |
| 22:52.07 | paxcoder | i need it for practical use, not in shell, so something a bit more simple would be nice |
| 22:52.09 | amphi | paxcoder: cp /dev/null to it ;) |
| 22:52.12 | abrotman | paxcoder: cat /dev/null > file |
| 22:52.15 | paxcoder | (i'm guessing dd-ing isn't) |
| 22:52.38 | paxcoder | *shrugs* ok |
| 22:52.40 | Tramp | >file |
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| 22:52.58 | paxcoder | Tramp: NICE |
| 22:52.59 | paxcoder | thx |
| 22:53.04 | Tramp | yw |
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| 22:58.15 | zmen01 | what sed -rn means? |
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| 22:59.31 | Tramp | zmen01: (1) please don't crosspost (2) read the manpage |
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| 23:02.07 | ajavid | http://www.picpaste.com/meatballs.jpg |
| 23:02.14 | ajavid | kde 4 and 3 at the same time |
| 23:02.17 | ajavid | oh damit |
| 23:02.22 | ajavid | http://www.picpaste.com/kde.png |
| 23:02.31 | ajavid | :D who da man, who da man |
| 23:02.42 | ajavid | and yes, that is stable debian! im da man im da man |
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| 23:27.22 | plt | is pine still supposed to work ondebian ? |
| 23:28.17 | theodred | I have been struggling on a rather annoying bug, which started coming out of nowhere. I have one key, with three uid's. I try to specify which email that I want to -se with, and gpg is stuck on signing and encrypting on my primary uid! it will only sign and encrypt with my primary uid (or last created uid) and I have also reproduced this error on finnix, knoppix and other debian lenny systems. The only way to use uid's is to gpg --ed |
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| 23:31.15 | _KaszpiR_ | plt try alpine |
| 23:34.53 | arewenothorses_ | Is there a package for PrimeNet GIMPS (distributed computing search for primes)? |
| 23:35.05 | arewenothorses_ | I've tried looking on debian.org, but didn't come up with anything. |
| 23:37.27 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.02 | plt | _Kas : cool looks interesting |
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| 23:40.39 | adb | arewenothorses_: aptitude search primes |
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| 23:45.42 | szymon_g | hi |
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| 23:48.53 | nick_fn | How do I use nautilus-dbg ? My nautilus is crashing when I close a window, so I'd like bug buddy to get a better bt. |
| 23:49.07 | nick_fn | I've installed nautilus-dbg , but /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/nautilus is not executable, so maybe I have the wrong idea |
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