| 00:00.15 | cockroach | any progress? |
| 00:00.22 | tCzern | no |
| 00:00.25 | cockroach | duh |
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| 00:00.55 | Hazelesque | flypiper: one sec... you don't have *ANY* routes? are you sure that the interface A: has an address associated with it, and B: is up? |
| 00:01.06 | Hazelesque | 172.20.20.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 172.20.20.2 |
| 00:01.06 | Hazelesque | default via 172.20.20.1 dev eth0 |
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| 00:01.11 | cockroach | tCzern: i *guess* this is a prerm/postrm issue. if you're looking for a hackish solution, i might be able to help :) |
| 00:01.14 | Hazelesque | ^ my "ip route" output |
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| 00:01.41 | tCzern | let's try it |
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| 00:02.03 | cockroach | so what's the name of the package again? |
| 00:02.33 | tCzern | python-central, python, python-minimal and python-apt |
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| 00:03.04 | cockroach | tCzern: oh, it seems to be getting worse |
| 00:03.05 | cockroach | :) |
| 00:03.05 | flypiper | Hazelesque, ip address shows lo: Loopback and eth0 with the correct IP / 24 |
| 00:03.33 | tCzern | no, I got stuck, that's what it was from the beginning |
| 00:03.40 | flypiper | Hazelesque, route just shows kernel routing table, with Desination, Gateway,Genmask,Flags,,,ect.. all empty |
| 00:03.55 | cockroach | tCzern: can you pastebin the error message again? |
| 00:04.00 | tCzern | what if I install all this from source? |
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| 00:04.52 | cockroach | tCzern: then you're going to mess up your system |
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| 00:05.49 | tCzern | http://pastebin.com/m23c24280 my version of 64studio is based on etch |
| 00:06.46 | cockroach | tCzern: what does "stat /usr/bin/python" say? |
| 00:06.58 | Hazelesque | flypiper: you're missing the keyword "via" |
| 00:07.41 | tCzern | http://pastebin.com/m45e15ef2 cockroach |
| 00:08.04 | Hazelesque | (and, "default" is a special keyword that is equal to 0.0.0.0/0) |
| 00:08.07 | Hazelesque | (naturally) |
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| 00:09.07 | flypiper | Hazelesque, ip:RTNETLINK answers: No such process |
| 00:09.52 | tCzern | mr cockroach? |
| 00:10.24 | cockroach | tCzern: ah, so this is not "proper" debian. let see if we can get it fixed anyway. now on etch this would normally be a symlink to your actual python binary, but it looks okay nevertheless. |
| 00:10.38 | cockroach | just "cockroach" will do :) |
| 00:10.40 | tCzern | no, 64studio calls this a debian remix |
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| 00:10.48 | cockroach | i see |
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| 00:11.10 | Hazelesque | flypiper: look at the output of "ip addr" |
| 00:11.14 | tCzern | because they use an RT Kernel |
| 00:11.16 | cockroach | anyway, i doubt they screwed up python in a way what prevents it from being uninstalled. |
| 00:11.38 | Hazelesque | your ethernet interface (eth0?)... is it "UP"? does it have a line like "inet 172.20.20.2/24 brd 172.20.20.255 scope global eth0"? |
| 00:11.42 | Hazelesque | tCzern: um, no? |
| 00:11.43 | cockroach | now what you *can* do (although at the risk of causing even more havoc) is the following: |
| 00:11.54 | tCzern | cockroach: if you try to uninstall it with synaptic it will remove 64studio |
| 00:12.14 | tCzern | Hazelesque: ? |
| 00:12.19 | flypiper | Hazelesque, yes all that is there following my inet statment |
| 00:12.21 | Hazelesque | tCzern: oh, my apologies, I was reading your "RT kernel" comment as a response to "RTNETLINK", please disregard what I said above. |
| 00:12.29 | tCzern | ok |
| 00:12.51 | Hazelesque | flypiper: I also have "2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 100" |
| 00:13.01 | Hazelesque | do you see the two UPs in your output? |
| 00:13.02 | flypiper | Hazelesque, same here |
| 00:13.13 | cockroach | tCzern: in /var/lib/dpkg/info you have postrm and prerm scripts for your installed packages. those are executed when you try to remove the package (prerm before, postrm afterwards). now it seems that one of those scripts is failing. |
| 00:13.13 | flypiper | Hazelesque, same for lo |
| 00:13.43 | Hazelesque | flypiper: and you're sure your address, netmask, gateway and interface name are correct and consistent? |
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| 00:14.09 | flypiper | Hazelesque, yes I am |
| 00:14.21 | Hazelesque | flypiper: tbh, I'm confused as to why you don't have a line like "172.20.20.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 172.20.20.2" in your output. |
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| 00:14.26 | cockroach | tCzern: so what you *can* do is edit those scripts and, right after the #!/bin/sh line insert a line "exit 0" which makes the script quit and signal a successful operation to dpkg. be warned, though, that you should *REALLY* re-install the packages afterwards and try to remove them again |
| 00:14.37 | cockroach | because otherwise your system will become a mess |
| 00:14.53 | Hazelesque | flypiper: try doing "ip addr flush dev eth0", then "ip addr add 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0" (replacing address, netmask and interface as appropriate) |
| 00:15.10 | Hazelesque | and seeing if that re-creates the missing route, and then you should be able to add the default route |
| 00:15.12 | cockroach | tCzern: after all, the scripts are there for a reason |
| 00:15.15 | flypiper | Hazelesque, ok.. gimme a sec |
| 00:15.42 | tCzern | hold on. looking |
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| 00:16.40 | Hazelesque | cockroach: or replace the script with a symlink to /bin/true? |
| 00:16.59 | Hazelesque | (which is easier if you don't have a working editor) |
| 00:17.04 | Hazelesque | (or are lazy ;)) |
| 00:17.25 | tCzern | how do I run the srcipt then? Like pycentral |
| 00:17.30 | tCzern | just call it? |
| 00:17.32 | cockroach | Hazelesque: indeed :) |
| 00:17.42 | cockroach | tCzern: why run them? |
| 00:18.06 | Hazelesque | which is what I tend to do when a braindead pre-rm/post-inst script causes me to have a broken package I can't uninstall |
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| 00:18.11 | tCzern | you wrote I should add the exit command |
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| 00:18.22 | tCzern | how would it process that |
| 00:18.33 | Hazelesque | usually when it's something that I have gotten terminally bored with, and I just want it to FOAD. |
| 00:18.55 | cockroach | tCzern: ah, the script will be run automatically when you remove the package. just make sure the "exit 0" is there |
| 00:19.03 | tCzern | ah |
| 00:19.04 | Hazelesque | (like, when a script for something like "phpbb" gets stuck up its own bum.) |
| 00:19.38 | cockroach | Hazelesque: i also like postinst scripts that fail if the package is in a non-working state (i.e. misconfigured daemon)... |
| 00:19.44 | Hazelesque | heh |
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| 00:19.56 | Hazelesque | cockroach: for curious values of "like"? |
| 00:20.02 | cockroach | exactly :) |
| 00:20.15 | Hazelesque | flypiper: bah, I'm missing something, but it's getting a bit late here... sorry |
| 00:20.18 | tCzern | exit 0 in quotation marks? |
| 00:20.22 | Gratz474 | I am not sure what to do here ? |
| 00:20.22 | Hazelesque | s/I'm/& sure O |
| 00:20.25 | Hazelesque | I'm/ |
| 00:20.34 | Gratz474 | i can't connect to an open port and I would like to know why |
| 00:20.37 | cockroach | the "i'm glad the maintainer is *not* in bottle-throwing-distance kind of "like" |
| 00:20.45 | tCzern | I guess not |
| 00:20.54 | cockroach | tCzern: no |
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| 00:21.48 | Hazelesque | flypiper: bear in mind that, if you have dhclient or avahi running in the background, it might be silently breaking things |
| 00:21.55 | Tramp | Gratz474: what kind of service is it? How are you trying to connect? |
| 00:22.07 | Gratz474 | red5 flash server |
| 00:22.09 | cockroach | completely off-topic and stuff, but curious: does anyone here have good/bad experiences with synology NAS'? |
| 00:22.16 | Hazelesque | (in terms of fscking up your routes when you're not looking) |
| 00:22.30 | Gratz474 | Tramp, and i have it all setup i think correctly and the ports are open i just really can't connect |
| 00:22.38 | Gratz474 | i keep getting a TIME_WAIT |
| 00:22.41 | Tramp | Gratz474: no idea, what that may be. But the TIME_WAIT tells me, the connection succeeded but was torn down immediately |
| 00:22.42 | Hazelesque | flypiper: no, but that doesn't mean that dhclient isn't running and trying to do something stupid. |
| 00:22.51 | tCzern | it doesn't work |
| 00:22.56 | Tramp | Gratz474: so it's an application-level problem, not a network problem |
| 00:23.02 | tCzern | it would remove 64studio |
| 00:23.05 | cockroach | tCzern: same error? |
| 00:23.20 | cockroach | tCzern: well, that's a dependency issue there |
| 00:23.25 | tCzern | y |
| 00:24.06 | cockroach | tCzern: you can't really do much against that, obviously 64studio needs python then. why do you want to remove it? |
| 00:24.06 | Tramp | Gratz474: so you have to change the logs, increase verbosity of server and or client and or ask somebody who knows this application |
| 00:24.18 | Tramp | Gratz474: s/change/check/ |
| 00:24.31 | tCzern | because I cannot run scons to build the latest release of Ardour |
| 00:25.11 | cockroach | tCzern: why can't you run it? |
| 00:26.23 | tCzern | because of an error in python-central |
| 00:26.30 | tCzern | this is hysterical |
| 00:26.58 | tCzern | http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Repairing_apt-get_database |
| 00:27.00 | cockroach | tCzern: what kind of error? is it too old or something? |
| 00:27.07 | tCzern | that's a nice thing to bookmark |
| 00:27.38 | RichiH | what is the sanest way to search all pictures for certain exif data? |
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| 00:29.08 | cockroach | RichiH: don't know about sane, but i guess some combination of "exif" and "grep" should work... |
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| 00:30.28 | tCzern | hold on |
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| 00:32.34 | cockroach | tCzern: also, concerning the error message you get when you uninstall the package, that's because /usr/bin/python is *not* a symlink (as it *should* be on etch) but the binary itself. |
| 00:32.39 | tCzern | cockroach: http://pastebin.com/m42fb0d9f |
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| 00:33.25 | cockroach | tCzern: eww. did you do anything ... weird ... to your box? like, manually installing python / parts of it? |
| 00:33.34 | tCzern | yes |
| 00:33.42 | tCzern | I was trying to update Gimp |
| 00:34.01 | tCzern | I have Gimp 2.2 and there is no way to get a newer version |
| 00:34.08 | cockroach | tCzern: aaah. bad idea. causes things to become unpredictable. |
| 00:34.22 | cockroach | tCzern: there is *always* a way :) |
| 00:34.44 | tCzern | that's why the dependencies are kaputt |
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| 00:34.52 | tCzern | at least I know why |
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| 00:35.11 | cockroach | tCzern: now, it seems you python installation is seriously broken. what you *can* try to do is to reinstall all your python packages and hope for the best |
| 00:35.21 | cockroach | (apt-get install <package> --reinstall) |
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| 00:35.37 | cockroach | starting with the very basic core packages |
| 00:36.16 | cockroach | basically, "dpkg -l *python* | grep ^ii" will give you a list of all your python stuff |
| 00:37.15 | tCzern | http://pastebin.com/m11c9660d |
| 00:37.28 | cockroach | also, as a rule for the future, do *not* *ever* install anything from source that is already installed through a package, *unless* you install it to some other subdirectory (like /usr/local) |
| 00:37.29 | tCzern | disastrous |
| 00:37.54 | tCzern | I am learning ... aarghgh @(*%&^&@^@(!!!!! |
| 00:38.24 | tCzern | but I have a nice Bluetooth Keyboard from Apple here |
| 00:38.40 | cockroach | tCzern: heh, that's how you learn. at least you still have running system :) |
| 00:38.51 | tCzern | duh |
| 00:39.00 | tCzern | one learns from mistakes |
| 00:39.05 | jnw222 | like me |
| 00:39.10 | tCzern | lol |
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| 00:39.19 | alsd | hi there |
| 00:39.22 | cockroach | remembers the way he learnt to be *very* careful when downgrading libc. it wasn't nice. |
| 00:39.24 | tCzern | glad I am not the only |
| 00:39.34 | jnw222 | glibc is dangerous |
| 00:40.00 | tCzern | oh, I had gtk fucked up two days ago and couldn't start nautilus |
| 00:40.06 | cockroach | yep. when "ls" and "cp" don't work anymore, that's pretty annoying... |
| 00:40.10 | jnw222 | i have gtk messed up |
| 00:40.16 | tCzern | cool |
| 00:40.34 | jnw222 | or something when it says that ist can't save config settings (orbit) |
| 00:40.35 | tCzern | I started to believe I am the only idiot here |
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| 00:40.44 | cockroach | tCzern: :) |
| 00:40.46 | jnw222 | why i have 2 installs |
| 00:41.28 | alsd | may I start a political troll-of-the-day? i'm searching for the bash info manual. does anyone on earth know if there's such a package in some non-nitpicking area of the debian archive? |
| 00:41.51 | olivr | wtf non-nitpicking area ? |
| 00:41.53 | tCzern | so, cockroach, what's next? |
| 00:42.11 | tCzern | I am glad you are helping me at all |
| 00:42.31 | olivr | alsd why not man bash ? |
| 00:42.32 | jnw222 | bash-doc? |
| 00:42.57 | olivr | i dunno i have already, as bash-doc |
| 00:43.06 | olivr | no bash.info |
| 00:43.10 | alsd | olivr: see #427804 |
| 00:43.17 | olivr | try a find / -name ... |
| 00:43.19 | cockroach | tCzern: now you basically have to re-install all those packages. for starters, take everything that has a version number of 2.4.4-2 or similar, since that seems to be your "official" python version, so packages with that version are probably core packages. |
| 00:43.43 | alsd | olivr: because the bash man page is a huge thing that's not quite easy to brain parse |
| 00:43.46 | cockroach | is scared of "info" |
| 00:43.49 | tCzern | it won't let me do this |
| 00:43.55 | cockroach | tCzern: what does it say? |
| 00:43.56 | jnw222 | once ran sudo rm -rf /* on purpose |
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| 00:44.10 | tCzern | I downloaded all the packages from the etch site, exactly what I should have |
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| 00:44.45 | alsd | cockroach: me too, but i'm far more scared of 'man bash' |
| 00:44.51 | cockroach | tCzern: ah, so you can't apt-get install them? |
| 00:45.00 | alsd | cockroach: even with HTML formatting in a web browser, my brain can't |
| 00:45.07 | cockroach | alsd: true, that one's scary too. but at least i know how to quit it :) |
| 00:45.10 | olivr | man man is great |
| 00:45.27 | tCzern | starting with python 2.4. is says it depens on python-minimal, which says it would need python-central whereas the latter one says it would need python 2.4 |
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| 00:46.01 | tCzern | no, apt-get no work, niet, nada, nein |
| 00:46.22 | alsd | also has been masturbating while looking at 'man man' |
| 00:46.29 | tCzern | thinks his system is fucking with itself |
| 00:46.33 | cockroach | tCzern: install them all at one. "apt-get install python-2.4 python-minimal ..." |
| 00:46.43 | tCzern | alsd: cool |
| 00:46.51 | cockroach | tCzern: oh, hold on |
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| 00:47.17 | cockroach | tCzern: probably without the "-2.4", at least on my etch box |
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| 00:47.27 | olivr | dpkg --force-all ftw |
| 00:47.27 | dpkg | olivr: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:47.31 | tCzern | just install python? |
| 00:47.33 | alsd | well, let me reformulate it otherwise : is it possible to count on debian in any respect whatsoever, so as to have the bash reference manual on disk, or not? |
| 00:47.34 | olivr | euh |
| 00:47.53 | cockroach | olivr: don't anger the bot |
| 00:47.54 | cockroach | :) |
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| 00:48.14 | cockroach | alsd: yes, "man bash" |
| 00:48.31 | alsd | cockroach: i'm asking for the bash reference manual, not the bash man page |
| 00:48.46 | olivr | does bash need one ? |
| 00:48.48 | neuro_damage | so I'm curious my Nvidia package from the backports is old |
| 00:48.56 | alsd | cockroach: there is a GFDL book named "Bash Reference Manual", that's what i'm asking |
| 00:48.59 | neuro_damage | and there's an error with it and wine, anyone know how to update that stuff? |
| 00:49.00 | alsd | ... for |
| 00:49.16 | cockroach | ah, never heard of that. shutting up. |
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| 00:50.25 | alsd | cockroach: it happened to me that before some of the debian folks started a useless battle with the FSF, it was in debian. don't remember when exactly, but I had it installed and ready to read on my hard drive, from the 'bash-doc' debian package |
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| 00:50.37 | tCzern | http://pastebin.com/m78023e51 |
| 00:50.41 | tCzern | cockroach: |
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| 00:51.03 | alsd | cockroach: unfortunately, someone in the debian comunity once thought it was a great idea to annoy the FSF, and now it's gone |
| 00:51.11 | cockroach | tCzern: err, did you add that line there? |
| 00:51.20 | tCzern | what line? |
| 00:51.26 | alsd | cockroach: but I'm, for example, humble human being that I am, more annoyed by this than the FSF. |
| 00:51.28 | tCzern | exit 0 |
| 00:51.29 | tCzern | ? |
| 00:51.42 | cockroach | alsd: they do like their little battles... |
| 00:51.45 | cockroach | tCzern: yes. |
| 00:52.06 | tCzern | I did, but it may have been overwritten, checking ... |
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| 00:52.29 | cockroach | tCzern: if that's from before, i was talking about the postrm/prerm scripts, not the python scripts. but anyway, just remove the line again. |
| 00:52.31 | alsd | cockroach: there are far more interresting battles to fight, if you ask me |
| 00:52.52 | cockroach | alsd: i guess that depends on your interests. but i tend to agree... |
| 00:53.21 | tCzern | exit 0 is still there |
| 00:53.41 | tCzern | postrm/prerm scripts ?? |
| 00:54.00 | songer | how can I install mi pci wireless? |
| 00:54.13 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.18 | cockroach | tCzern: never mind, just remove the line for now |
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| 00:54.32 | tCzern | the exit 0 thing? |
| 00:54.36 | cockroach | yep |
| 00:54.43 | alsd | cockroach: because of course, in a one hundred percent internet-connected world, it's not much of a problem. Trouble is, i'm spending much time on the road, where you just barely can get a slow GPRS 56 kbps expensive internet access, so I do mind having the doc on HDD. but that's another story |
| 00:55.01 | tCzern | gone |
| 00:55.07 | cockroach | tCzern: now try again |
| 00:55.25 | adb | !postrm |
| 00:55.25 | dpkg | methinks postrm is /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name>.postrm and this is where most of the package problems appear. Edit the script and comment out offending lines or just NULL the file. |
| 00:55.58 | alsd | cockroach: besides, I don't give a f***ing damn about some nitpickers' point of view regarding invariant sections in GFDL-licenced docs being "free" or not. |
| 00:55.58 | cockroach | alsd: heh |
| 00:56.21 | tCzern | same errors |
| 00:56.47 | cockroach | alsd: saying thing like that will get your debian user license revoked, careful! |
| 00:56.57 | alsd | cockroach: if only the invariant sections were saying things such as "nazis did a great job, hope they'll soon be back", that would be objectionable. but do they? |
| 00:57.09 | cockroach | tCzern: still the "SyntaxError: invalid syntax" thing? |
| 00:57.51 | alsd | cockroach: i guess that's what freedom is all about, right? |
| 00:57.55 | cockroach | tCzern: or the readlink issue again? |
| 00:58.01 | cockroach | alsd: probably |
| 00:58.02 | tCzern | http://pastebin.com/m3455e4ac |
| 00:58.17 | cockroach | tCzern: okay, time to address that one. |
| 00:58.21 | cockroach | tCzern: hold on |
| 00:58.41 | cmyers_work | dpkg: tell alsd about godwin's law |
| 00:58.54 | cockroach | tCzern: what does python -V say? |
| 00:59.19 | tCzern | Python 2.4.6 |
| 00:59.23 | tCzern | uhm |
| 00:59.34 | cockroach | yay, craploads of updates in testing/unstable! |
| 00:59.36 | cmyers_work | awesome, both links are dead =/ |
| 00:59.41 | cmyers_work | dpkg: godwin's law is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law |
| 00:59.41 | dpkg | ...but godwin's law is already something else... |
| 01:00.03 | cockroach | tCzern: okay, now type "mv /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/python-2.4" and "ln -s /usr/bin/python-2.4 /usr/bin/python" |
| 01:00.10 | tCzern | that's my skeleton from my atempt to install gimp |
| 01:00.14 | alsd | cmyers_work: thanks Godwin, what would we be doing without him? |
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| 01:00.40 | cockroach | tCzern: we'll get to that one afterwards :) |
| 01:00.51 | tCzern | did that |
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| 01:02.03 | cockroach | tCzern: now try reinstalling it again |
| 01:03.25 | tCzern | oink oink, something different goingon now |
| 01:03.25 | tCzern | File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1374, in ? |
| 01:03.25 | tCzern | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.35 | tCzern | lol |
| 01:04.02 | cockroach | tCzern: change is good! :) |
| 01:04.25 | tCzern | hold on, will remove scons |
| 01:04.43 | tCzern | works by renaming pycentral and then I can remove it |
| 01:04.54 | cockroach | heh |
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| 01:05.06 | tCzern | brb |
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| 01:06.35 | eldowan | in lenny, how would I go about getting xvattr or an alternative? I need to set some X settings (XV_BRIGHTNESS,XV_CONTRAST, etc...) I know I can open a multimedia application and manually adjust therein (eg mplayers 1-8 keys) but would like to set the values directly |
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| 01:08.56 | tCzern | cockroach: looks like it is fixed now |
| 01:09.02 | tCzern | I cannot believe this ... |
| 01:09.14 | eldowan | n/m I must have overlooked the xvattr package... sorry |
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| 01:09.34 | cockroach | tCzern: i would still recommend reinstalling every single python package on your system, just to be on the safe side... |
| 01:10.11 | tCzern | doing this right now |
| 01:10.15 | cockroach | okay |
| 01:10.36 | saskuash | help-me please! I am attempt start the nrpe (nagios) in tcp port 5666, but i only start in tcp6! |
| 01:10.54 | saskuash | i am doing debian lenny |
| 01:11.49 | tCzern | silky smoothy processing, yummy |
| 01:11.55 | cockroach | :) |
| 01:11.57 | tCzern | beer for cockroach |
| 01:12.01 | tCzern | or milk |
| 01:12.08 | cockroach | good idea, actually. brb |
| 01:12.19 | tCzern | helping himself with red wine |
| 01:13.14 | cockroach | is with beer now |
| 01:13.14 | tCzern | scons still does not work |
| 01:13.27 | tCzern | fuck doublefucking clusterfuck!!!! |
| 01:13.36 | tCzern | what beer? |
| 01:14.00 | cockroach | "Anheuser Busch" |
| 01:15.12 | tCzern | still says Python 2.4.6 |
| 01:15.12 | tCzern | should be 2.4, or not? |
| 01:15.12 | cockroach | tCzern: so what's up with scons? |
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| 01:15.14 | cockroach | tCzern: nah, that *might* be okay. hold on. |
| 01:15.23 | tCzern | same error with python-central |
| 01:15.44 | cockroach | tCzern: well, on my etch box it says 2.4.4. what does "ls /usr/bin/python*" say? |
| 01:16.01 | bjqrn0 | for some reason gpasswd has taken over ports 80 and 443, so I can't restart apache (it just died earlier), if I try killall gpasswd, gpasswd just restarts |
| 01:16.33 | tCzern | it says /usr/bin/python |
| 01:16.59 | cockroach | tCzern: did you include the *? |
| 01:17.03 | tCzern | no |
| 01:17.08 | cockroach | tCzern: you should :) |
| 01:17.10 | Lennent | thats why |
| 01:17.18 | tCzern | lol |
| 01:17.20 | tCzern | hold on |
| 01:17.35 | tCzern | /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/python2.4-config /usr/bin/python-config |
| 01:17.35 | tCzern | /usr/bin/python-2.4 /usr/bin/python2.6 |
| 01:17.35 | tCzern | /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/python2.6-config |
| 01:17.51 | tCzern | uuhm< i would be confused if I were an OS |
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| 01:18.05 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.07 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.08 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.10 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.14 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.14 | cockroach | tCzern: heh. okay, now, what does "ls -l /usr/bin/python" say? |
| 01:18.15 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.25 | liable | !ops ban DJ_Shovel |
| 01:18.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: liable complains about: ban DJ_Shovel |
| 01:18.27 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.30 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.32 | Lennent | gah, another fuckwit |
| 01:18.33 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
| 01:18.34 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 01:18.36 | DJ_Shovel | haha come here in this fun community! http://tinyurl.com/kp6hgd ohh and the best- No Need to subscribe/ register to anything!!!! |
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| 01:18.47 | mentor | Thanks |
| 01:18.54 | cockroach | oh, just as i found the "ignore" button |
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| 01:19.01 | liable | thank you |
| 01:19.17 | tCzern | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-07-09 19:51 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/bin/python-2. 4 |
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| 01:20.16 | cockroach | tCzern: okay, so that one is still linked to you old "evil" python version. now let's fix that. type "ln -sf /usr/bin/python2.4 /usr/bin/python", this will change the symlink to the version from the debian package. |
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| 01:21.23 | tCzern | ok |
| 01:21.31 | cockroach | tCzern: now, what does python -V say? |
| 01:21.33 | rvalles | !tellme apt-key |
| 01:21.41 | rvalles | !tellme aptkey |
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| 01:21.47 | tCzern | 2.4.4 yeeaayy |
| 01:21.49 | rvalles | sigh... |
| 01:21.51 | cockroach | yay! |
| 01:21.53 | bjqrn0 | howcome gpasswd all of a sudden decided to steal ports 80 and 443 from apache? |
| 01:22.13 | tCzern | is scared to try scons again |
| 01:22.22 | cockroach | tCzern: now remove the old one. rm -f /usr/bin/python-2.4 (notice the dash) |
| 01:22.30 | cockroach | tCzern: heh |
| 01:23.10 | tCzern | done |
| 01:23.11 | cockroach | bjqrn0: is that a gnome thing? |
| 01:23.22 | bjqrn0 | don't think so |
| 01:23.24 | cockroach | tCzern: now try scons again. |
| 01:23.30 | cockroach | bjqrn0: then what is it? |
| 01:23.35 | bjqrn0 | I have no idea |
| 01:23.38 | cockroach | :) |
| 01:23.44 | bjqrn0 | seems to be the thing that manages groups and such |
| 01:23.48 | cockroach | bjqrn0: what does "dpkg -S gpasswd" say? |
| 01:24.02 | cockroach | bjqrn0: huh? |
| 01:24.12 | tCzern | error in pycentral |
| 01:24.21 | cockroach | tCzern: a new one? |
| 01:24.22 | bjqrn0 | . /usr/bin/gpasswd etc... |
| 01:24.29 | bjqrn0 | without the . |
| 01:24.32 | tCzern | no, looks like the same |
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| 01:24.36 | bjqrn0 | just a bunch of files |
| 01:24.54 | bjqrn0 | no config files whatsoever |
| 01:25.02 | bjqrn0 | just executables and manpages |
| 01:25.05 | cockroach | bjqrn0: it should say something like "foo: /usr/bin/gpasswd" |
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| 01:25.15 | bjqrn0 | passwd: /usr/bin/gpasswd |
| 01:25.31 | bjqrn0 | passwd: /usr/sbin/chgpasswd, |
| 01:25.35 | bjqrn0 | and some manpages |
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| 01:25.41 | bjqrn0 | not the , |
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| 01:25.50 | cockroach | tCzern: can you paste it again? |
| 01:26.01 | bjqrn0 | I'll pastebin it if u like.. |
| 01:26.14 | cockroach | bjqrn0: err. i'm pretty sure that one shouldn't be listening to any sockets |
| 01:26.34 | bjqrn0 | perl 21117 www-data 6u IPv6 16047131 TCP *:www (LISTEN) |
| 01:26.34 | bjqrn0 | zbind 21124 www-data 6u IPv6 16047131 TCP *:www (LISTEN) |
| 01:26.34 | bjqrn0 | gpasswd 25000 www-data 6u IPv6 16047131 TCP *:www (LISTEN) |
| 01:26.37 | cockroach | bjqrn0: no, that's fine |
| 01:26.42 | bjqrn0 | lsof -i:80 |
| 01:27.05 | bjqrn0 | Starting web server: apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 |
| 01:27.07 | cockroach | bjqrn0: scary |
| 01:27.12 | bjqrn0 | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:443 |
| 01:27.18 | bjqrn0 | no listening sockets available, shutting down |
| 01:27.24 | bjqrn0 | also says it's unable to open logs |
| 01:27.36 | bjqrn0 | then it says " failed!" in a scary red color... |
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| 01:27.40 | cockroach | :) |
| 01:28.02 | bjqrn0 | pretty important to get this running fast asw :X |
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| 01:28.50 | bjqrn0 | can't even killall perl |
| 01:29.18 | bjqrn0 | worked with killall -9 |
| 01:29.22 | cockroach | bjqrn0: if you do a "ps axf", do you see where the gpasswd process is coming from? |
| 01:29.29 | bjqrn0 | apache started!!! |
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| 01:29.48 | bjqrn0 | when I did killall -9 on perl, zbind and gpasswd |
| 01:30.20 | cockroach | bjqrn0: still, scary and weird |
| 01:30.27 | bjqrn0 | absolutely yes |
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| 01:30.42 | bjqrn0 | and why did it happen all of a sudden after 58 days? |
| 01:30.47 | bjqrn0 | and at 3:30 AM |
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| 01:32.33 | cockroach | tCzern: still here? |
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| 01:33.40 | cockroach | bjqrn0: maybe it thought nobody was watching... |
| 01:33.46 | bjqrn0 | :) |
| 01:33.58 | bjqrn0 | or just wanted to f'ck around a bit |
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| 01:34.13 | cockroach | heh |
| 01:34.20 | Pnux | Note to self: dont ever do 'sudo mv <ntfs directory> <some .exe file>' again, *sigh*. |
| 01:34.23 | bjqrn0 | I've done nothing for 58 days, let's get some excitement :) |
| 01:34.58 | pl4yer0ne | Pnux, ouch |
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| 01:34.59 | cockroach | :) |
| 01:35.02 | bjqrn0 | Pnux: look at the bright side, now you got another reason to switch to ext3 or sth full time ;) |
| 01:35.17 | Pnux | i have dual boot |
| 01:35.28 | pl4yer0ne | not any more =) |
| 01:35.31 | cockroach | pnux: you *had* dual boot |
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| 01:35.38 | bjqrn0 | there is a driver for ext2/3 in windows |
| 01:35.46 | pl4yer0ne | bjqrn0, yep |
| 01:36.05 | Pnux | yeah, well.. good thing it was windows |
| 01:36.09 | bjqrn0 | dunno if you actually can install windows to an ext partition tho |
| 01:36.10 | tCzern | back |
| 01:36.18 | pl4yer0ne | http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:36.36 | cockroach | welcome back |
| 01:36.41 | Pnux | windows cant even recognize ext |
| 01:36.45 | pl4yer0ne | and theres another one as well but I cant remember its address |
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| 01:37.37 | Pnux | oh, seems i have all my files still on the other partition |
| 01:38.32 | cockroach | plux: you sound disappointed... |
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| 01:39.28 | tCzern | cockroach: scons works now |
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| 01:39.35 | cockroach | tCzern: nice, congrats |
| 01:39.40 | Pnux | cockroach: not really, i wouldnt like to go through the installation process again, i wouldnt lose anything important of course, but still |
| 01:39.40 | tCzern | I re installed EVERY python package |
| 01:39.52 | cockroach | tCzern: heh |
| 01:40.02 | tCzern | However, it cannot find libgnomecanvas although it is installed |
| 01:40.09 | tCzern | more beer for you |
| 01:40.20 | cockroach | woo! |
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| 01:42.15 | rvalles | W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 01:42.29 | rvalles | and I've just imported the one in here: http://wiki.debian.org/Status/Testing |
| 01:42.30 | tCzern | cockroach: could its symlink be wrong? |
| 01:42.32 | Pnux | run apt-get update |
| 01:42.33 | rvalles | :/ |
| 01:42.53 | cockroach | tCzern: the gnomecanvas one? |
| 01:43.08 | Pnux | rvalles: im not really sure, but 'apt-get update' should work |
| 01:43.27 | rvalles | Pnux: instead of aptitude? interesting |
| 01:43.29 | rvalles | doing so now |
| 01:43.37 | tCzern | yes |
| 01:43.48 | tCzern | maybe I should reboot? |
| 01:43.56 | tCzern | after all this? |
| 01:43.59 | Pnux | yeah, aparently aptitude doesnt handle public keys and apt-get does |
| 01:43.59 | rvalles | (it's an A1200 with bliz 1230/050 and 64mb ram, over SLIP link at 38400... it's gonna take a while) |
| 01:44.13 | cockroach | tCzern: i don't think rebooting is going to help you there. what does "dpkg -S gnomecanvas" say? |
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| 01:44.43 | cockroach | rvalles: A as in Amiga? |
| 01:45.01 | glasyalabolis | I'm on a laptop and the right side of my touchpad is acting as a scrollbar and I don't want it to. going to system > preferences > touchpad tells me to enable SHMconfig in the x.org conf file. is there any way I can disable this scroll bar behavior without doing that? |
| 01:45.32 | rvalles | cockroach: yeah |
| 01:45.42 | cockroach | rvalles: nice! |
| 01:46.51 | tCzern | cockroach: http://pastebin.com/m5cc9c360 |
| 01:47.11 | rvalles | ugh... the m68k thingy doesn't exist anymore |
| 01:47.19 | rvalles | !tellme m68k |
| 01:47.28 | rvalles | !tellme 68k |
| 01:47.35 | rvalles | nothing :/ |
| 01:48.06 | cockroach | tCzern: do you have python-gnome2 installed? |
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| 01:48.39 | tCzern | yes |
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| 01:49.13 | Pnux | by the way is Squeeze using KDE4 now? |
| 01:50.04 | cockroach | tCzern: and python-gnome2-dev? |
| 01:50.22 | tCzern | yup |
| 01:50.40 | cockroach | tCzern: hmm, hold on |
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| 01:52.21 | craigevil | Pnux: unfortunately yes |
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| 01:53.51 | Pnux | craigevil: i see, so if i want to move from Lenny to Squeeze using KDE, what would be best? Remove KDE3, full-upgrade and install KDE4, reinstall Debian from scratch without installing a desktop manager or just run the full upgrade? |
| 01:54.15 | cockroach | tCzern: maybe http://ardour.org/node/1078? |
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| 01:54.55 | tCzern | yeah, I just read this |
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| 01:54.58 | craigevil | Pnux: full-upgrade will remove kded3 but wont install all of the kde4 things, would probably be simpler to remove kde3 upgrade then install kde4 |
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| 01:56.38 | cockroach | :) |
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| 01:57.40 | Pnux | woha, my system just crashed |
| 01:58.16 | cockroach | how did you do that? |
| 01:58.18 | Qew | maybe it was fearing the change from KDE3 to KDE4... or just giving you a subtle warning |
| 01:58.24 | cockroach | heh |
| 01:59.20 | Supaplex | EEK! a bug! |
| 01:59.21 | Supaplex | !smash cockroach |
| 01:59.21 | dpkg | reduces cockroach to a pile of gritty dust with his bare hands |
| 01:59.22 | Pnux | so what did i after i asked hat long question? |
| 02:00.32 | cockroach | hey!! |
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| 02:00.33 | songer | hello |
| 02:00.35 | tCzern | cockroach: you need help? I'll defend you :-) |
| 02:00.42 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.44 | Pnux | i believe it was KDE that made it crash, the screen was blinking between real black and lcd black (which had the cross shaped mouse pointer) |
| 02:00.49 | cockroach | tCzern: nah, i'm fine. i'll just trow that beer bottle... |
| 02:01.23 | Qew | Pnux: < craigevil> Pnux: full-upgrade will remove kded3 but wont install all of the kde4 things, would probably be simpler to remove kde3 upgrade then install kde4 |
| 02:01.45 | Qew | Pnux: you probably missed that |
| 02:01.50 | Pnux | Qew: thanks, i did miss that |
| 02:01.56 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.12 | Pnux | craigevil: thats what i thought, was just making sure.. thanks for the answer |
| 02:02.25 | songer | is airplus xtreme g dwl-g520 |
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| 02:04.30 | paragon24 | i have a question reguarding an asus p5b deluxe wifi, is it possible to get the wifi device to function? |
| 02:04.47 | Supaplex | !wireless |
| 02:04.48 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 02:05.01 | cockroach | songer: it seems that's an atheros card, try the ath5k driver... |
| 02:05.33 | cockroach | songer: then again, i'm not entirely sure, maybe ask some more and somebody who actually knows will help you... |
| 02:05.33 | paragon24 | Not exactly sure, sorry |
| 02:05.58 | cockroach | paragon24: do you have any more information on that. such as, what kind of chip it is? |
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| 02:06.14 | paragon24 | i wish I did :( |
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| 02:06.40 | paragon24 | i can do some more research and attempt to gain that information |
| 02:06.44 | songer | d-link |
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| 02:07.11 | songer | ok |
| 02:07.34 | cockroach | songer: do you have the card installed in your pc right now? |
| 02:07.49 | songer | yes |
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| 02:08.39 | cockroach | songer: if you type "lspci" you will get a list of your hardware. does anything there look like a wifi card? |
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| 02:09.35 | tCzern | back |
| 02:09.48 | cockroach | tCzern: haven't seen you in a while. |
| 02:10.02 | tCzern | heh, |
| 02:10.15 | tCzern | trying to fix this libgnomecanvas-2.0 >= 2.0 not found. |
| 02:10.17 | songer | no |
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| 02:10.23 | songer | cockroach |
| 02:10.43 | cockroach | songer: can you upload the output to pastebin? |
| 02:10.51 | songer | ok |
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| 02:11.09 | tCzern | why would my system not find it? |
| 02:11.17 | tCzern | I never messed with this |
| 02:11.28 | songer | can I have the link? |
| 02:11.33 | cockroach | !paste |
| 02:11.33 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 02:12.30 | tCzern | brb |
| 02:12.53 | songer | cockroach, http://paste.debian.net/41487/ |
| 02:13.18 | cockroach | songer: "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor" is your wifi card. |
| 02:13.35 | cockroach | songer: are you on lenny? |
| 02:13.46 | songer | yes |
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| 02:13.53 | DanDare | i just installed Lenny (its what i think i did), and after boot it´s prompted: "Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid MA tty1". I really installed Lenny? o.O |
| 02:14.23 | Wyzard | DanDare: Sounds like what you installed wasn't lenny |
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| 02:14.40 | cockroach | songer: try "modprobe ath5k" - does anything happen? |
| 02:14.56 | DanDare | Wyzard, thanks for the confirmation... |
| 02:15.10 | Joelito | Hi all: Question about Iceweasel...why when I hover the menu bar the menu items disappear? |
| 02:15.12 | Wyzard | DanDare: Did you download a "testing" snapshot? |
| 02:15.16 | songer | apt-get modprobe ath5k ? |
| 02:15.28 | songer | cockroach? |
| 02:15.36 | cockroach | songer: no, just "modprobe ath5k". it tells the kernel to load the driver called "ath5k" |
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| 02:15.50 | DanDare | Wyzard, i downloaded "debian-502-i386-netinst.iso" |
| 02:16.19 | Wyzard | DanDare: That sounds like the lenny installer |
| 02:16.30 | DanDare | Wyzard, so im confused now |
| 02:16.30 | songer | nothind it says |
| 02:16.39 | Wyzard | DanDare: Unless you used expert mode to install testing/unstable instead |
| 02:16.49 | cockroach | songer: that's good. what does "ifconfig -a" say? |
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| 02:17.24 | DanDare | Wyzard, i have "deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main" in sources.list |
| 02:17.34 | DanDare | default by installation |
| 02:17.46 | Wyzard | DanDare: You didn't put that there? |
| 02:17.52 | DanDare | Wyzard, i dont |
| 02:18.06 | Wyzard | DanDare: Check the md5sum of your debian-502-i386-netinst.iso file: it should be eb436947414480e2c8ad60248d64ae59 |
| 02:18.18 | songer | http://paste.debian.net/41487/ |
| 02:18.23 | paragon24 | cockroach: windows is telling me its a realtek RTL8187 |
| 02:18.27 | songer | cockroach |
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| 02:19.11 | DanDare | Wyzard, right |
| 02:19.27 | Wyzard | DanDare: If it matches, then you have a correct lenny install disc |
| 02:19.28 | cockroach | songer: so you have a "wlan0" network device which means that you wifi is basically working |
| 02:19.30 | Joelito | anyone? :=( |
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| 02:19.33 | cockroach | songer: do you have gnome? |
| 02:19.38 | craigevil | judd: versions libc6 |
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| 02:19.38 | judd | craigevil: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-12 sid: 2.9-19 |
| 02:19.43 | DanDare | Wyzard, ok, thanks |
| 02:19.57 | Wyzard | DanDare: If you got a squeeze installation, either you used expert mode to make it install squeeze instead of lenny, or you changed your sources.list after the installation was finished |
| 02:20.11 | cockroach | ! RTL8187 |
| 02:20.11 | dpkg | [rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless drivers, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. Supports RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline kernel from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. RTL8187SE not supported, ask me about <rtl8187se>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 02:20.19 | songer | yes I have gnome |
| 02:20.22 | laughingman | "modprobe ath5k"? ummm....wireless |
| 02:20.26 | craigevil | DanDare: easy way to check, apt-cache policy libc6 |
| 02:20.29 | songer | cockroach |
| 02:20.52 | songer | ok |
| 02:21.03 | cockroach | songer: then you should have a small network manager icon somewhere in one of your corners (top left, probably) |
| 02:21.09 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.12 | DanDare | craigevil, it says 2.9-12 |
| 02:21.21 | cockroach | songer: top right, i mean |
| 02:21.25 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:21.31 | craigevil | DanDare: then some how you have squeeze |
| 02:21.32 | laughingman | i used to have to load ath5k on my netbook! |
| 02:21.38 | cockroach | songer: looks like a small computer screen (or two of them, don't remember) |
| 02:21.54 | paragon24 | hmm |
| 02:22.24 | paragon24 | so i need rtl-wifi correct? |
| 02:22.27 | DanDare | craigevil, ok. The MD5 key matches for lenny disc. I really dont know what happened |
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| 02:22.33 | songer | nno I don't have something like that |
| 02:23.06 | craigevil | DanDare: testing is fine unless you are using it on a server then you want stable |
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| 02:23.30 | DanDare | i want stable but just dont know how i ended up with this |
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| 02:23.47 | cockroach | songer: hrm. do you have network-manager-gnome installed? |
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| 02:23.56 | songer | yes |
| 02:24.20 | wea0 | What's the easiest way to get some sort of Japanese text input working in Debian (Squeeze, KDE)? |
| 02:24.30 | songer | Im learning to use debian |
| 02:24.54 | tCzern | how can I find out what version of libgnomecanvas I have? |
| 02:25.02 | cockroach | paragon24: no, it should already be installed on your system as part of your kernel package |
| 02:25.06 | tCzern | damned, got this far and now this, grrr |
| 02:25.15 | paragon24 | oh |
| 02:25.25 | paragon24 | then why isnt it working? |
| 02:25.28 | Supaplex | tCzern: dpkg -l | grep canvas |
| 02:25.42 | cockroach | songer: then, err, hold on. there should be some way to start the network manager. if, in a terminal, you type nm-applet, does such an icon appear? |
| 02:25.59 | cockroach | paragon24: did you load the module? |
| 02:26.06 | tCzern | hmm, looks all good |
| 02:26.21 | cockroach | paragon24: "modprobe rtl8187" |
| 02:26.23 | tCzern | thanks Supaplex |
| 02:26.31 | songer | bash: nm-applet: command not found |
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| 02:27.04 | cockroach | any gnome users here that could help songer getting network-manager up & running? |
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| 02:27.23 | Wyzard | nm-applet is in the network-manager-gnome package |
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| 02:27.26 | Supaplex | sounds like it's not installed |
| 02:27.30 | tCzern | I use gnome |
| 02:27.37 | tCzern | what's the problem? |
| 02:27.43 | DanDare | craigevil, what i remember is when installing system take a long time trying to connect to the repositorie and then started working suddenly. Chances are it swaped repos? This makes any sense ? |
| 02:27.51 | laughingman | i use gnome, but i allways use wcid or wifi radar |
| 02:27.55 | songer | I want to use wireless |
| 02:27.55 | Wyzard | network-manager is just the daemon; you also want to install a frontend, network-manager-gnome or network-manager-kde |
| 02:28.29 | cockroach | songer: in that case, are you *really* sure you have network-manager-gnome installed? as in, you type "apt-get install network-manager-gnome" and nothing interesting happend? |
| 02:28.30 | songer | how can I iinstall? |
| 02:28.32 | cockroach | happenS, even |
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| 02:28.47 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:28.58 | cockroach | songer: or aptitude install, if you prefer |
| 02:29.35 | tCzern | cockroach: I think I found the problem, scons is looking for libgnomecanvas2.0 but I have libgnomecanvas-2.0 |
| 02:29.37 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.42 | tCzern | see the difference? |
| 02:29.54 | cockroach | tCzern: heh, yes. that's stupid :) |
| 02:30.04 | tCzern | I am so brilliant, damned |
| 02:30.16 | tCzern | so must be something in the ardour script, uh? |
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| 02:31.00 | cockroach | tCzern: sounds likely |
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| 02:31.21 | cockroach | paragon24: any progess? |
| 02:31.28 | magnuX | hello everyone |
| 02:32.09 | paragon24 | cockroach: im pretty new to debian/linux :S |
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| 02:32.16 | cockroach | paragon24: heh, happens :) |
| 02:32.22 | Supaplex | bleh. day old cheese poofs. all stale :( |
| 02:33.13 | paragon24 | cockroach: assuming its a command, it doesnt work. |
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| 02:33.24 | songer | cockroach, I already installed network-manager-gnome |
| 02:33.28 | cockroach | paragon24: what doesn't? the modprobe thing? |
| 02:33.41 | paragon24 | cockroach: that is correct. |
| 02:33.53 | Wyzard | songer: Does /usr/bin/nm-applet exist on your system? |
| 02:33.56 | cockroach | songer: then you should have nm-applet. |
| 02:34.15 | cockroach | paragon24: what do you mean by "doesn't work"? "nothing happens"? |
| 02:34.32 | magnuX | songer, check first if your user is in netdev group |
| 02:35.01 | magnuX | songer, if it isnt you wouldnt be able to use nm-applet |
| 02:35.21 | craigevil | bad kitty my cheezy poofs |
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| 02:35.43 | paragon24 | cockroach: it said unknown command, but I now just executed it via the root terminal... and it did nothing but went to a new command line. |
| 02:35.44 | magnuX | songer, in a terminal check it with "id" command |
| 02:35.59 | cockroach | paragon24: that's good, no output means it worked. |
| 02:36.33 | songer | commad id it says uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
| 02:36.42 | cockroach | paragon24: now, if you type (as root) "ifconfig -a" you should see an entry for wifi0 |
| 02:36.44 | paragon24 | cockroach: okay now how do I actually use it :S heh |
| 02:36.48 | paragon24 | ok |
| 02:36.59 | magnuX | songer, use it in a non-root terminal |
| 02:37.01 | cockroach | paragon24: "wlan0", i mean |
| 02:37.17 | paragon24 | okay |
| 02:37.31 | cockroach | do you have that? |
| 02:38.38 | paragon24 | cockroach: yes, I had it before as well, I had that before as well (unsure). anyway, when I go into my network settings it says its a wired connection.. |
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| 02:38.55 | cockroach | paragon24: err, well, it's wrong :) |
| 02:39.13 | magnuX | i rather prefer wicd instead network-manager |
| 02:39.23 | cockroach | paragon24: make sure you have wireless-tools installed and type iwconfig, do you see your interface there? |
| 02:39.36 | laughingman | i agree with magnuX |
| 02:39.51 | magnuX | laughingman, :) |
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| 02:39.56 | cockroach | enjoys network-manager. nice vpnc integration... |
| 02:40.22 | magnuX | hates poor wpa network-manager support |
| 02:40.35 | cockroach | huh? poor? |
| 02:40.49 | cockroach | lol, i also like hearing my neighbors' alarm clocks :) |
| 02:40.49 | magnuX | yep |
| 02:40.55 | cockroach | how so? |
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| 02:41.17 | Wyzard | magnuX: I've been using NetworkManager with my WPA2 network for several years |
| 02:41.25 | magnuX | in my opinion is quite buggy, dont know... network-manager usually does what it wants |
| 02:41.45 | magnuX | I feell wicd is a better network configuration tool |
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| 02:42.00 | Supaplex | you don't like network mangaler? |
| 02:42.04 | paragon24 | yay |
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| 02:42.11 | pickcoder | I used NM a couple of times and tossed it out for manual config |
| 02:42.12 | cockroach | paragon24: works? |
| 02:42.20 | laughingman | wcid works better on my netbooks, seems more responsive |
| 02:42.20 | songer | sorry guys |
| 02:42.20 | pickcoder | it always said was connected and I wasn't |
| 02:42.24 | paragon24 | it shows as wireless now |
| 02:42.28 | cockroach | nice |
| 02:42.37 | songer | cockroach |
| 02:42.44 | cockroach | songer |
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| 02:42.59 | paragon24 | oh poo got to manually put in the info |
| 02:43.11 | pickcoder | 'course that was on Etch |
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| 02:44.05 | Supaplex | if you still resent etch you need to get with the times :) |
| 02:44.15 | cockroach | paragon24: if you use network-manager (or some similar tool) you should be able to just click the icon and choose your network |
| 02:44.21 | pickcoder | who said I resent Etch |
| 02:44.23 | pickcoder | I still run it |
| 02:44.51 | SuperMiguel | how much of the server market share does linux/unix have? |
| 02:45.06 | paragon24 | i see |
| 02:45.08 | pickcoder | Lenny's kernel update failed on me the other day and couldn't figure out why the machine refused to access the root partition |
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| 02:45.15 | amikrop | Hello. I have set some aliases with alias foo='bar $*'. How can I get autocomplete to my aliases' arguments? |
| 02:45.27 | pickcoder | I even booted into livecd, chrooted,and reran grub-install a few times |
| 02:45.42 | pickcoder | still won't boot using the -2 kernel |
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| 02:45.54 | cockroach | songer: what's your status? |
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| 02:46.37 | paragon24 | cockroach: alright I will install network-managergnome |
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| 02:47.05 | cockroach | paragon24: be warned though, other people in here hate it :) |
| 02:47.15 | paragon24 | why so? |
| 02:47.23 | pickcoder | SuperMiguel: define "server market" |
| 02:47.28 | jhambo | Does wireless on an acer aspire one work out of the box or will have have to fiddle to get it to work? |
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| 02:47.52 | cockroach | jhambo: did you ask google? |
| 02:48.13 | pickcoder | Bing is the answer engine, though, right? |
| 02:48.17 | pickcoder | heh |
| 02:48.21 | magnuX | haha |
| 02:48.38 | magnuX | Google > Bing |
| 02:48.39 | SuperMiguel | pickcoder, like world wide whats is the percent of servers using unix/linux |
| 02:48.43 | wea0 | What's the easiest way to get some sort of Japanese text input working in Debian (Squeeze, KDE)? |
| 02:48.46 | laughingman | with ubuntu 9.04 it did, but on most other debian i have tried it needed a little wrk |
| 02:48.59 | kejen | does debian come with a default way to manage starting/stopping scripts on boot? Instead of manually going into the rc folders and changing the links |
| 02:49.26 | magnuX | kejen, aptitude install sysv-rc |
| 02:49.30 | cockroach | kejen: update-rc.d |
| 02:49.34 | simonrvn | update-rc.d |
| 02:50.03 | jhambo | cockroach: yes many times but it's hard to tell what info is up to date. I'm runing lenny on my aspire one now but I've had endless problems with wireless. I'm wondering if starting with a fresh lennyr2 install will make everything magically work... |
| 02:50.09 | pickcoder | SuperMiguel: that's hard to tell considering the number of machines that people build and the ones that are not publicly viewable for remote data collection |
| 02:50.37 | pickcoder | SuperMiguel: look at pop-con if you want to see how many systems are running Debian |
| 02:50.49 | simonrvn | !popcon |
| 02:50.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ |
| 02:50.50 | kejen | yeah, this box has update-rc.d, didn't want to install anything new. thanks |
| 02:50.56 | SuperMiguel | pickcoder, well we kinda know that linux/unix on the desktop enviroment is about 3% and microsoft about 90%, is it like that on servers? |
| 02:51.01 | cockroach | pickcoder: you mean "how many systems are running popcon on Debian" |
| 02:51.37 | cockroach | SuperMiguel: unlikely |
| 02:51.41 | pickcoder | cockroach: yeah |
| 02:51.57 | pickcoder | and even those numbers are not very accurate |
| 02:52.13 | SuperMiguel | pickcoder, i just want like an estimate |
| 02:52.16 | kejen | nah, in the datacenter 20 people order linux/bsd boxes to every 1 windows I would say |
| 02:52.33 | jhambo | my wireless connection drops randomly several times a day. Especially if I'm running a torrent. The only way to get it back is to power cycle the router. I know it sounds like a router problem but windows and mac computers don't have any problems... |
| 02:52.44 | pickcoder | no one orders $40K Mac servers for bling-effect? |
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| 02:53.09 | hark | jhambo: you have a choice of madwifi or ath5k. if you're using ath5k, it's better to try with a newer kernel |
| 02:53.10 | SuperMiguel | reason why im asking is because i havent seem a unix/linux server on a work enviroment yet.. and i have worked on few big companies |
| 02:53.49 | pickcoder | SuperMiguel: that's why |
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| 02:54.37 | kejen | what kind of work eviroments? |
| 02:55.01 | jhambo | hark: I'm running 2.6.27.8 and have the following "ath" related modules: ath_pci, wlan, ath_hal. Does that sound like a problematic combo? |
| 02:55.02 | SuperMiguel | mostly tech support |
| 02:55.21 | simonrvn | well, duh |
| 02:55.39 | hark | ^^ |
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| 02:55.58 | pickcoder | big companies are driven by marketed software, which normally is Windows based |
| 02:56.22 | hark | jhambo: that's madwifi |
| 02:56.28 | simonrvn | 'ooh, shiny!' |
| 02:56.40 | SuperMiguel | im right now persuing my MCSA, but my servers are debian based.. And im just thinking if i should blow debian for a bit and install windows 2003 server... Or i dont know :( |
| 02:57.01 | pickcoder | SuperMiguel: run vmware and run all of them on one machine |
| 02:57.06 | pickcoder | provided you have a decent server |
| 02:57.10 | pickcoder | for Win2K3 |
| 02:57.38 | amikrop | Hello. I have set some aliases with alias foo='bar $*'. How can I get autocomplete to my aliases' arguments? |
| 02:57.43 | pickcoder | Cessna just finished porting to SAP |
| 02:57.45 | hark | jhambo: that sounds like a router problem but |
| 02:57.51 | SuperMiguel | well i have a 6000+ cpu, 8gb of ram and 4tb of HD |
| 02:57.52 | pickcoder | I hope they don't fall over now |
| 02:57.54 | songer | how can I check if I a m in netdev group ? |
| 02:58.01 | jhambo | hark: I've tried all kinds of combinations of stuff and I've never found a solution that lets me connect to WEP and WPA routers. I know WEP is outdated but lots of people still use it. I've yet to have a laptop where wireless worked satisfactorily under linux... |
| 02:58.05 | pickcoder | but, that's another show... |
| 02:58.10 | hark | jhambo: is it a linksys? |
| 02:58.22 | cockroach | songer: type "groups" on the command line (as user, not as root) |
| 02:58.25 | craigevil | wicd works with wpa |
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| 02:58.33 | jhambo | hark: yeah wrt54g |
| 02:58.46 | jhambo | craigevil: yess but apparently not with wep |
| 02:58.50 | hark | jhambo: original firmware? |
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| 02:59.02 | songer | how is as user? |
| 02:59.15 | songer | Im sorry Im learning |
| 02:59.17 | jhambo | hark: I believe I updated it at some point but I could be wrong |
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| 03:00.12 | jhambo | hark: are older firmwares known to be problematic? |
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| 03:00.33 | craigevil | works with wep also thats what i use because my sons XO doesnt do wpa |
| 03:00.53 | jhambo | craigevil: hmmm bummer for me. WEP doesn't work for me |
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| 03:01.01 | cockroach | songer: in your menu you should have an item "Terminal" and another item "Terminal (as root)" - use the one which doesn't mention root |
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| 03:01.48 | hark | jhambo: yes |
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| 03:02.54 | songer | ok |
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| 03:03.59 | paragon24 | cockroach: so where exactly is this network manager located, heh |
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| 03:04.13 | cockroach | paragon24: do you have the network-manager-gnome package installed? |
| 03:06.55 | paragon24 | cockroach: yes |
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| 03:07.32 | cockroach | paragon24: then type "nm-applet" (it should also be somewhere in the menu i guess, but i'm not a gnome expert) |
| 03:08.01 | jhambo | On a computer with mediocre specs (netbook) does KDE/Gnome/fluxbox etc make a big difference in the speed of e.g. loading webpages designing presentations etc? |
| 03:08.06 | songer | yes thats the way cockroach |
| 03:08.14 | paragon24 | cockroach: authentication rejected ? |
| 03:08.53 | hark | paragon24: you have to be in the netdev group |
| 03:08.59 | songer | I installed network-manager-gnome |
| 03:09.03 | paragon24 | i see |
| 03:09.03 | cockroach | paragon24: type groups (as user) - does it show netdev? |
| 03:09.09 | cockroach | also, i'm too slow :) |
| 03:09.24 | cockroach | songer: does it work? |
| 03:09.28 | songer | yes |
| 03:09.40 | paragon24 | cockroach: yes i have netdev listed |
| 03:09.47 | songer | now Im using de internet wireless |
| 03:09.49 | cockroach | hooray for blindly pluggin in network cables - stupid loop bringing down my switch :) |
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| 03:10.08 | cockroach | paragon24: did you run the command as a user (*not* as root)? |
| 03:10.09 | songer | this is my secon time that I install debian |
| 03:10.16 | cockroach | songer: nice! |
| 03:10.17 | paragon24 | that could be the problem |
| 03:10.21 | songer | 2 weeks ago |
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| 03:11.07 | songer | I install debian lenny then iinstall sid and then my usb wireless it can detect it |
| 03:11.18 | paragon24 | cockroach: its doing nothing when i do so... a insert blinking bar |
| 03:11.26 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:12.15 | songer | but now i'm using a pci wireless |
| 03:12.17 | cockroach | paragon24: you should have a small icon (probably looking like two computers) in your "notification area" (top right corner of your screen, most likely) |
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| 03:12.30 | cockroach | songer: welcome aboard, then! |
| 03:12.59 | hesco | neither which nor apt-cache search doesn't tell me where to find mkinitrd. Any guidance available at this hour? |
| 03:13.06 | paragon24 | cockroach: i see it now :) |
| 03:13.26 | cockroach | paragon24: good to know :) |
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| 03:13.57 | hesco | or rather . . . neither `which` nor `apt-cache search . . . ` tells me where to find mkinitrd. Any guidance available at this hour? |
| 03:13.58 | kejen | hesco: find it on your system? use find or locate (if database is up to date) |
| 03:14.07 | DanDare | someone here managed to install zoneminder on Lenny? I made it work under Etch but cant do the same on Lenny |
| 03:14.12 | songer | cockroach, tanks |
| 03:14.44 | hark | hesco: you;re looking for mkinitramfs |
| 03:14.44 | cockroach | songer: you're welcome |
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| 03:15.14 | paragon24[GNU] | cockroach: :) |
| 03:15.27 | cockroach | paragon24[GNU]: multiplying? |
| 03:15.34 | songer | but why in this time it dos't installed it network manager-gnome? |
| 03:15.54 | hesco | this is getting stranger and stranger: 'sudo: locate: command not found' and 'sudo: updatedb: command not found' |
| 03:16.04 | paragon24[GNU] | cockroach: Thanks for the help. |
| 03:16.14 | cockroach | paragon24[GNU]: you're welcome |
| 03:16.27 | hark | hesco: install it then |
| 03:17.10 | hesco | hark: apt-cache search seem oblivious about it. what package do I need? |
| 03:18.25 | hark | hesco: i'd go for mlocate |
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| 03:19.57 | craigevil | is it the locate command that isnt found or sudo? |
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| 03:20.28 | hark | locate |
| 03:21.04 | craigevil | he has the same error for updatedb |
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| 03:22.04 | craigevil | locate is part of findutils a required package |
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| 03:22.40 | hark | it's been split out of findutils |
| 03:23.26 | hark | !locate |
| 03:23.26 | dpkg | locate is a tool for finding files on your hard drive using a precompiled database rather than searching the actual drive using "find" (ask me about <find.cli>). Under etch, locate is in the findutils package. If you are running lenny, ask me about <missing locate>. If you are using lenny later, then <mlocate> is the best option. |
| 03:23.35 | hark | !missing locate |
| 03:23.36 | dpkg | locate is no longer in the findutils package and is now in the packages locate, slocate or mlocate (and /usr/bin/locate is managed using the alternatives system). For more information, look at the changelog and README.Debian files for findutils (or locate) versions 4.2.31-2 or later. Install the <mlocate> or locate packages to get it back. |
| 03:23.36 | hesco | I've installed locate (which has been split) and am still running updatedb |
| 03:23.47 | craigevil | locate: /usr/bin/locate.findutils |
| 03:23.50 | hesco | but I just read apt-cache show mlocate and it looks useful |
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| 03:25.59 | hesco | my initial issue though was that I was unable to find mkinitrd |
| 03:26.06 | hesco | !mkinitrd |
| 03:26.44 | hesco | and apt-cach search did not find it either |
| 03:27.56 | adb | apt-cache* |
| 03:27.57 | hark | hesco: you;re looking for mkinitramfs |
| 03:28.00 | hesco | and a package search on the debian website fails to find it as well |
| 03:28.07 | hesco | ah, thanks |
| 03:28.27 | hark | or even if you should be looking for it |
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| 03:28.35 | craigevil | hesco: initramfs-tools or yaird |
| 03:28.48 | hesco | that one is here, thanks |
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| 03:29.33 | hark | http://wiki.debian.org/InitrdReplacementOptions |
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| 03:30.30 | hesco | man updatedb sure ran faster on my old 13gb hard drive |
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| 03:31.04 | hark | it's a man page, of course it will ;) |
| 03:31.53 | hesco | sorry, not `man`, but Man!, |
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| 03:33.47 | songer | ok, how can i install java? |
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| 03:33.57 | songer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.04 | songer | to youtube? |
| 03:36.19 | hesco | ok, so I ran: `sudo mkinitramfs -k -o /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30_20090709_02` and it said: 'Working files in /tmp/mkinitramfs_FJSthu and overlay in /tmp/mkinitramfs-OL_vsDYUi'. It seems to have touched vmlinuz-2.6.30_20090709_02, which has a brand new timestamp, but the initrd does not seem to be in /boot, where I was when I ran it. and this new directory at /tmp is unfamiliar to me. |
| 03:36.34 | hesco | Where, pray tell, might I find the initrd for my new kernel? |
| 03:37.01 | hesco | songer: google flash player. |
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| 03:37.44 | songer | yes Imlooking for informartion |
| 03:38.23 | hesco | http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ |
| 03:38.25 | craigevil | !tell songer about Adobe Flash |
| 03:39.01 | craigevil | songer: for sun java just do apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin |
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| 03:39.34 | hesco | really? had no idea java was that easy to install |
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| 03:39.51 | nsadmin | songer you running debian now? |
| 03:39.58 | songer | yes |
| 03:40.25 | hesco | any clues where I might find my ramdisk image? |
| 03:40.32 | craigevil | hesco: it is if you have contrib non-free in your sources.list |
| 03:40.39 | nsadmin | ok... one thing linux is good for is to make programming more convenient... you a coder? |
| 03:40.51 | hesco | me? yes. |
| 03:40.57 | nsadmin | hesco: /boot |
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| 03:41.05 | songer | craigevil, its says apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin |
| 03:41.07 | itsosimpo | hello |
| 03:41.21 | songer | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) |
| 03:41.24 | nsadmin | you mean the ramdisk image to suplement your kernel? |
| 03:41.27 | itsosimpo | i have a i686 cpu and i accidentally installed x86-64 v of debian |
| 03:41.38 | nsadmin | songer: need admin permission. |
| 03:41.45 | itsosimpo | is this okay and if not what should i have installed? |
| 03:41.54 | hesco | I have seven ramdisks in /boot but none for 2.6.30 |
| 03:41.54 | craigevil | songer: you have to be root |
| 03:41.58 | songer | ok |
| 03:42.12 | nsadmin | itsosimpo: no; i386 |
| 03:42.29 | hesco | nsadmin: yes, please |
| 03:42.31 | nsadmin | hesco: did you build that one? |
| 03:42.32 | itsosimpo | hello i have a i686 cpu and i accidentally installed x86-64 v of debian. is this okay and if not, what should i have installed? |
| 03:42.39 | itsosimpo | oh sht |
| 03:42.39 | hesco | the one I just built |
| 03:42.53 | itsosimpo | so i should wipe my drive and then intall all over again? |
| 03:42.55 | nsadmin | oh, did you use make-kpkg? |
| 03:42.58 | hesco | ok, so I ran: `sudo mkinitramfs -k -o /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30_20090709_02` and it said: 'Working files in /tmp/mkinitramfs_FJSthu and overlay in /tmp/mkinitramfs-OL_vsDYUi'. It seems to have touched vmlinuz-2.6.30_20090709_02, which has a brand new timestamp, but the initrd does not seem to be in /boot, where I was when I ran it. and this new directory at /tmp is unfamiliar to me. |
| 03:43.12 | hesco | no I went old school |
| 03:43.19 | hesco | built from source |
| 03:43.25 | nsadmin | not sure how to help. |
| 03:43.26 | songer | ok |
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| 03:43.40 | craigevil | songer: and if your on stable the easiest way to get adobe flash is to add the debian-multimedia.org repo to your sources.list then do apt-get update apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 03:43.49 | nsadmin | but would you want to rebuild? (please backup your .config now) |
| 03:44.17 | paragon24 | yeah that network manager is giving more trouble than I think it is worth |
| 03:44.28 | hesco | I've got a directory littered with successive .config files |
| 03:44.43 | itsosimpo | okay so i have a hd dedicated to all my data files and another for just the operating system |
| 03:44.59 | itsosimpo | how can i install just the operating system so that i switch to the i386 version of debian lenny |
| 03:45.01 | nsadmin | do you actually need a ramdisk? |
| 03:45.08 | songer | ok, Idid upgrade mi kernel to 2.6.30 |
| 03:45.24 | songer | it says Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 03:45.24 | songer | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 03:45.24 | songer | is only available from another source |
| 03:45.24 | songer | E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate |
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| 03:45.32 | hesco | I would suspect so, haven't booted a machine without one in years |
| 03:45.38 | nsadmin | you probably need non-free |
| 03:45.50 | simonrvn | he got kicked.. |
| 03:46.26 | nsadmin | hesco: hmm. |
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| 03:47.02 | itsosimpo | hello any help please, my music collection and porno are at stake |
| 03:47.03 | hesco | itsosimpo: use the net install disk, partition your HD for the OS, don't let it touch your data drive, then when the deal is done, use a text editor to rewrite your /etc/fsdtab |
| 03:47.22 | itsosimpo | ok thanks |
| 03:47.39 | hesco | or /etc/fstab, rather |
| 03:47.47 | nsadmin | steals everything on the stake! |
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| 03:48.12 | itsosimpo | iv'e never edited /etc/fstab before |
| 03:48.14 | itsosimpo | what should i do |
| 03:48.32 | itsosimpo | errr hwat should i be aware of when doing this |
| 03:49.37 | nsadmin | you have multiple drives? I'd at least consider using uuids |
| 03:49.46 | hesco | you can use symlinks or fstab entries to tell the system what partitions to mount to which file system nodes |
| 03:50.03 | hesco | man fstab |
| 03:50.10 | hesco | file system table |
| 03:50.21 | nsadmin | also look at your existing fstab |
| 03:50.26 | hesco | exactly |
| 03:50.51 | nsadmin | hesco: are you able to boot your .30? |
| 03:50.58 | hesco | of course if you lose the porn, you'll have more room for music and your wife might appreciate it, as well |
| 03:51.25 | hesco | I haven't tried yet, thinking I needed to build a ram disk |
| 03:51.47 | nsadmin | having said that, having the ability to attract, and using that ability will drive her wild... you want to keep doing that if you have a wife |
| 03:51.49 | hesco | but I commented out that line in lilo.conf and I guess I'll give it a try |
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| 03:52.25 | nsadmin | maybe you do, if you have the drivers as modules |
| 03:52.26 | itsosimpo | no wife |
| 03:52.31 | itsosimpo | lol |
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| 03:52.45 | nsadmin | maybe you don't, if all drivers needed to mount / are present IN the kernel |
| 03:52.56 | hesco | never seen this one before. lilo said: Fatal: Setup length exceeds 31 maximum; kernel setup will overwrite boot loader |
| 03:53.00 | hesco | what might that mean? |
| 03:53.38 | hesco | I might have to rebuild then |
| 03:53.47 | nsadmin | block driver for the device and filesystem driver for whatever / partition uses for filesystem |
| 03:54.00 | nsadmin | hesco: then try this... |
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| 03:54.14 | nsadmin | make-kpkg --initrd kernel_headers kernel_image |
| 03:54.24 | nsadmin | when you're in the kernel source dir |
| 03:54.45 | Mr_Bunny_ | I've moved motherboards. To be able to use the onboard ethernet, what do I have to do? modprobe the appropriate module? |
| 03:55.00 | phorce1 | is there a lenny update to the non-broken pidgin on bpo or elsewhere or am I going to have to manually compile and maintain my pidgin install to get yahoo back? |
| 03:55.11 | nsadmin | that will -not- create the ramdisk, what -will- create it is when you install the resulting .deb |
| 03:55.19 | hesco | my module .conf says: CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=m; CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y |
| 03:55.44 | hesco | I suspect I'd need to put that first one in the kernel, no? |
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| 03:55.54 | adb | phorce1: http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/pidgin |
| 03:55.56 | hesco | what block devises would I need? |
| 03:56.00 | nsadmin | and your wife is not really scared right now? :) |
| 03:56.42 | nsadmin | whatever supports your disk controller |
| 03:56.55 | phorce1 | hmmm. I have bpo in my sources.list and it didn't show up. I guess I'll have to pin it |
| 03:57.19 | hesco | so nsadmin: is that in kernel-package ??? |
| 03:57.38 | craigevil | hm the last i knew you needed pidgin 2.5.8 and backports is only 2.5.5 |
| 03:58.08 | hesco | I had to build pidgin from source on a fresh lenny install just a couple of weeks ago |
| 03:58.17 | hesco | the debian version would not work for me |
| 03:58.19 | adb | phorce1: i386 ? |
| 03:58.21 | paragon24 | why would my network work the first time I connect (wireless) and now it trys to connect and just kicks me off |
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| 03:58.29 | craigevil | phorce1: doesnt take much to backport it from sid |
| 03:58.38 | phorce1 | blech, yep, 2.5.7 is where they actually got it fixed. I guess I'll grab the tarball |
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| 03:59.01 | phorce1 | adb yes i386 |
| 03:59.24 | adb | try bpo , first .. |
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| 03:59.39 | hesco | will make-kpkg work from a kernel.org source tree, or does it need a debian kernel source ??? |
| 03:59.48 | phorce1 | judd versions pidgin |
| 03:59.48 | judd | phorce1: pidgin -- lenny-volatile: 2.4.3-4lenny1~volatile0 lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny1 etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny2~bpo40+1 lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny2 lenny-backports: 2.5.5-1.1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 2.5.6-1 sid: 2.5.8-1 |
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| 04:00.19 | paragon24 | anyone have a clue? |
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| 04:01.10 | phorce1 | craigevil: I screwed up a system once by adding sid sources to my sources.list ... no more manual backports with buildpkg for me |
| 04:01.11 | phorce1 | :-D |
| 04:02.16 | craigevil | you just add the deb-src not the deb line, but whatever works for you :) |
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| 04:05.03 | neuro_damage | how on earth do I install skype for 64 bit, cause the 32 bit package it doesn't like the dpkg -i says it's a i386 and doesn't like it for amd64 |
| 04:05.07 | neuro_damage | how can I resolve this issue? |
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| 04:05.43 | hesco | running that make-kpkg command is giving me lots of errors like: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match |
| 04:06.47 | hesco | neuro_damage: you getting source from skype? |
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| 04:07.56 | macrobat | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.02 | macrobat | im using sid |
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| 04:08.57 | itsosimpo | okay err the info on my bootup says i am on amd64 |
| 04:09.04 | itsosimpo | so im fine |
| 04:09.35 | itsosimpo | but when i try to install archlinux via boot cd on virtual box it says it detects i686 |
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| 04:11.05 | craigevil | macrobat: sid=unstable |
| 04:11.26 | adb | judd: versions librsvg2-common |
| 04:11.34 | judd | adb: librsvg2-common -- etch: 2.14.4-3 lenny: 2.22.2-2lenny1 sid: 2.26.0-1 squeeze: 2.26.0-1 |
| 04:11.52 | adb | macrobat: ^^ |
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| 04:13.55 | Wyzard | macrobat: It means that you currently have version 2.22.3-2 installed, and the sid repository has version 2.26.0-1 available |
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| 04:14.06 | Wyzard | macrobat: and that apt is going to install that version because it's newer |
| 04:14.23 | LinuxMercedes | Hey, I have a new Lenny system that's started hanging on "Activating swap" |
| 04:14.32 | LinuxMercedes | any ideas? I have no clue where to start. |
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| 04:15.13 | itsosimpo | i am trying to install archlinux with a live cd under debian vbox OSE and it is saying the following when i boot: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot-- please use a kernel appropriate for yourCPU. |
| 04:15.15 | itsosimpo | halp |
| 04:15.16 | itsosimpo | ? |
| 04:15.18 | jpinx-eeepc | LinuxMercedes: how much sawp did you allocate when you were partitioning |
| 04:15.32 | LinuxMercedes | jpinx-eeepc, 128 MB for a 256 MB system |
| 04:15.42 | nsadmin | LinuxMercedes does it look like it succeeded in activating the swap? if so, then it really hung on the next thing |
| 04:15.45 | LinuxMercedes | jpinx-eeepc, funny thing is, it used to boot fine |
| 04:15.49 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, how would I tell? |
| 04:15.58 | Wyzard | itsosimpo: Sounds like you downloaded a 64-bit installer, but you don't have a 64-bit processor |
| 04:16.13 | Wyzard | itsosimpo: Or maybe VirtualBox only supports 32-bit guests even if you do have a 64-bit processor |
| 04:16.21 | nsadmin | LinuxMercedes: try making it so it doesn't activate the swap |
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| 04:16.26 | LinuxMercedes | oh...another detail: If I hit ctrl-C enough, I eventually get a bunch of errors about a read-only filesystem |
| 04:16.29 | hesco | ok, nsadmin, I ran the make-kpkg thing, but can find no .deb file to install in /usr/local/linux-2.6.30 |
| 04:16.44 | nsadmin | if you get by that, then it was the swap and you should figure if your disk is ok |
| 04:16.45 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, how do I do that when I can't boot into a good system? |
| 04:16.48 | jpinx-eeepc | LinuxMercedes: thaat might indicate a b0rked hdd |
| 04:16.56 | nsadmin | live cd? rescue? |
| 04:16.57 | itsosimpo | i think it's the latter |
| 04:17.01 | hesco | nor in the parent directory, where the man page suggested I should look. where should I be looking? |
| 04:17.01 | LinuxMercedes | jpinx-eeepc, shouldn't be borked |
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| 04:17.15 | phorce1 | LinuxMercedes: boot with a liveCD and fsck the drive |
| 04:17.16 | itsosimpo | because on boot my computer says its 64bit |
| 04:17.33 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, phorce1: I'll give it a shot. |
| 04:17.41 | adb | LinuxMercedes: swap is 1.5 x RAM |
| 04:17.55 | LinuxMercedes | adb, ok...crap. |
| 04:17.56 | adb | not 1/2 RAM |
| 04:17.58 | LinuxMercedes | =/ |
| 04:18.01 | nsadmin | I'd test first |
| 04:18.08 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, that's what I'm doing. |
| 04:18.21 | nsadmin | if I wsn't lazy :) |
| 04:18.31 | phorce1 | LinuxMercedes: I've had 4 drives out of a case of 12 fail within a week of install "shouldn't be broken" is not a valid statement when dealing with hardware |
| 04:18.38 | nsadmin | if I was lazy, I'd mkswap |
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| 04:18.59 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: that shouldn't affect booting though? |
| 04:19.13 | phorce1 | (the other 8 {and the 4 replacements} are still running fine 3 years later) |
| 04:19.28 | adb | jpinx-eeepc: restore ? |
| 04:19.45 | jpinx-eeepc | worth a shot adb |
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| 04:22.10 | phorce1 | craigevil: you talked me into giving it a shot. pidgin 1.5.8 building from sid sources now. If building a backport is this "easy" why does it take so long to get one onto bpo? |
| 04:22.41 | craigevil | i think they try to wait until most of the bugs are worked out |
| 04:22.45 | vk5foss | probably IRL on the side of the devs, and puting something in bpo requires testing |
| 04:23.12 | nsadmin | {how many different things are there to backport} / {how many people are there to backport} |
| 04:23.14 | phorce1 | craigevil: it's also having to build updates for a lot of other stuff |
| 04:23.17 | LinuxMercedes | Out of curiosity, is it a possibility that if I messed with another partition on the drive I messed up my swap? |
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| 04:23.39 | craigevil | backporting from sid the app still has whatever bugs the sid package does |
| 04:23.43 | peterrooney | LinuxMercedes: yes. |
| 04:24.06 | nsadmin | unless the bugs are in the sid libs the thing depends on |
| 04:24.20 | craigevil | yes that too |
| 04:24.21 | LinuxMercedes | peterrooney, then that's the working theory. |
| 04:24.49 | macrobat | is build-essential only for building .deb pkgs or for general compiling too? |
| 04:24.57 | peterrooney | LinuxMercedes: Well, I did just step into the conversation only two minutes ago. |
| 04:25.02 | phorce1 | craigevil: gotta figur out what else trying to upgrade libpurple might break -- and, why the heck did it build finch? |
| 04:25.11 | hesco | macrobat: general compiling |
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| 04:26.02 | macrobat | ty |
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| 04:27.08 | macrobat | im trying to figure out why i cant install a newer wine version |
| 04:28.30 | DanDare | im just running stable now and after "apt-get source ffmpeg" i got warnings like this http://pastebin.com/m7a177bd it´s something wrong ? |
| 04:28.32 | craigevil | phorce1: Package: finch Source: pidgin, libpurple0 only has to do with pidgin/finch |
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| 04:29.58 | Mr_Bunny_ | I figured it out - the new card was recognized, but as eth1. I commented out the lines in /etc/70-persistant-net.rules about the old card, changed that on the new one to name eth0, and rebooted, then it worked. |
| 04:30.05 | adb | DanDare:!key |
| 04:30.10 | Mr_Bunny_ | Is there a way to reload the udev devices somehow? |
| 04:30.23 | macrobat | !key |
| 04:30.23 | dpkg | well, key is Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest gpg key used to sign the Debian archive |
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| 04:30.47 | phorce1 | craigevil: looks like it built and dpkg -i'd in OK |
| 04:30.49 | Mr_Bunny_ | Why does taking NICs to DHCP and back to static help with connecting with new cards? |
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| 04:31.42 | DanDare | or maybe. it says an "svn" debian package.. so every day i do apt-get update and try to download such package it will be a different version one ? |
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| 04:32.40 | craigevil | DanDare: not if your on stable |
| 04:33.11 | phorce1 | craigevil: I hate using apt-get -b because I alwys have to remember to CD to somewhere "sane" before running it |
| 04:33.19 | DanDare | ok. But "apt-get update" will not update the gpg keys also ? |
| 04:33.57 | adb | DanDare: apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
| 04:34.42 | AljosHa | have you guys hear rummors about 0day exploit for ssh? |
| 04:34.47 | DanDare | this is a bit weird... but anyway the first time i try to download a source package from same oficial repositorie. |
| 04:34.59 | DanDare | thanks adb |
| 04:35.08 | MasterOfOink | AljosHa: It was a simple brute force. |
| 04:35.40 | macrobat | how do i install a specific version of a pkg? |
| 04:35.47 | hesco | has anyone ever seen this error from lilo? Know what it might mean? how to resolve it? |
| 04:35.51 | hesco | Fatal: Setup length exceeds 31 maximum; kernel setup will overwrite boot loader |
| 04:35.56 | AljosHa | i dont know...i am paranoid ; |
| 04:36.11 | macrobat | nvm, found it |
| 04:36.15 | MasterOfOink | AljosHa: If they had a strong passphrase, better only keyed connections and even better implemented a connection rate limit they would have been better off. |
| 04:36.45 | MasterOfOink | and best of: no root login |
| 04:37.20 | AljosHa | ah i though they rooted it |
| 04:37.22 | Wyzard | is surprised that Debian's default sshd_config allows root logins |
| 04:38.17 | streuner | file a bugreport :-) |
| 04:38.20 | MasterOfOink | Wyzard: Sad but true. Also portknocking isn't too hard to handle |
| 04:38.29 | AljosHa | http://secer.org/hacktools/0day-openssh-remote-exploit.html |
| 04:38.32 | AljosHa | its rooted one... |
| 04:39.14 | jpinx-eeepc | Wyzard: I found that to my cost a couple of days ago - dictionary attack:( |
| 04:39.25 | MasterOfOink | AljosHa: Funny reading... they've posted it on FD a couple of days ago. |
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| 04:39.38 | AljosHa | fd? |
| 04:39.50 | Wyzard | allows only publickey authentication |
| 04:39.53 | MasterOfOink | AljosHa: s/fd/Full Disclosure Mailing list/ |
| 04:40.00 | AljosHa | who are those anti-sec ? |
| 04:40.06 | MasterOfOink | was too lazy to type |
| 04:40.11 | AljosHa | hahaha ;)) sorry |
| 04:40.14 | phorce1 | jpinx-eeepc: you too? |
| 04:40.29 | jpinx-eeepc | phorce1: a client ;) |
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| 04:41.09 | jpinx-eeepc | phorce1: locked down now - pubkey auth and no root ssh |
| 04:41.19 | phorce1 | had a root pw the he KNEW was in the dictionaries (even though it was 16 characters) and just never bothered to change it |
| 04:41.24 | AljosHa | huh i always blocks everything, only allowed to ssh port are ips i trust... |
| 04:41.50 | AljosHa | any httpd expert? |
| 04:41.56 | AljosHa | cos no much help on their chan |
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| 04:42.18 | DanDare | i think its time to test Lenny´s ffmpeg with something like "export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=risky" otw |
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| 04:48.16 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, et. al. Thanks! fsck'd it and swapoff/swaponned it and it works! |
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| 04:52.41 | nsadmin | LinuxMercedes: oh hey, glad it worked out... you -might- want to check the whole drive in the near future... you should back up the whole thing and run a full surface scan |
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| 04:53.00 | nsadmin | you very definitely want to at least back it up |
| 04:53.42 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, It's checked and all |
| 04:54.27 | nsadmin | understood... but something happened and so you want to be aware those things are good for the near future |
| 04:54.31 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, the hypothesis is that I screwed something up trying to change a partition |
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| 04:54.43 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 04:54.57 | nsadmin | so maybe you formatted the swap partition with another fs |
| 04:55.00 | LinuxMercedes | but I'll remember that the next time something unexplained happens =] |
| 04:55.03 | LinuxMercedes | nsadmin, probable |
| 04:55.18 | LinuxMercedes | fortunately, nothing a little gparted magic can't fix |
| 04:55.44 | dasunt | I'm getting choppy flash playback under xserver. |
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| 04:55.49 | dasunt | I have an ATI 8500LE card. |
| 04:55.56 | nsadmin | just so you know... |
| 04:56.06 | dasunt | However, xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon isn't installed. |
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| 04:56.09 | dasunt | What do I need? |
| 04:56.13 | nsadmin | you want to be backed up BEFORE something unexplained happens |
| 04:56.27 | nsadmin | wttw |
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| 04:59.52 | dasunt | Er, how do I configure X under lenny? |
| 04:59.56 | hesco | anyone have experience with this new grub from lenny? |
| 05:00.01 | dasunt | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just asks about keyboards. |
| 05:00.10 | dasunt | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-ati doesn't do anything. |
| 05:00.15 | adb | X -configure |
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| 05:00.33 | adb | !xorg |
| 05:00.33 | dpkg | X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.4. Ask me about <install x> if you are using Debian Etch or later. Ask about <drxx> to reconfigure. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQ #xorg on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 05:01.18 | dasunt | adb: Interesting, that doesn't automatically configure the ati module either. |
| 05:01.30 | hesco | its set up is completely different from the one I'm use to |
| 05:01.52 | dasunt | Nothing seems to add the module. |
| 05:02.13 | adb | dasunt: lenny xorg is empty by default |
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| 05:02.32 | hesco | and the grub.cfg fil does not mention the initrd at all |
| 05:02.48 | dasunt | adb: So what's the debian way of configuring the right module for the video card? |
| 05:02.49 | adb | dasunt: xorg do things automatically |
| 05:03.15 | trakinas | hi guys! Im trying to setup an apache2 with virtual hosting on a local machine. so far, I managed to create bothe sites and make them available.buuuut I cant access their index files. I guess is something with my hostname configuration - localhost gets in "It Works!" and site1.localhost.tld gets into this same file. site2 shows a blak page. |
| 05:03.44 | hesco | dasunt: I usually boot from knoppix and let its magic write by xorg.conf file, copy it to the hard drive, then reboot |
| 05:03.59 | dasunt | hesco: LOL. I guess that's probably the best way. |
| 05:04.07 | hesco | never fails to give me better results than I would get trying to do that manually |
| 05:05.02 | dasunt | It's weird that I have xserver-xorg-video-ati, -radeon, and -r128, and it doesn't seem to be loading the module for my AGP video card. |
| 05:05.21 | hesco | so anyone know anything about this new grub in lenny? I'm preparing to test a new kernel remotely and it would be a pain if this thing did not boot |
| 05:05.49 | trakinas | http://pastie.org/540996 |
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| 05:06.06 | trakinas | sites configuration and hostname file. |
| 05:06.22 | adb | dasunt: aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd |
| 05:07.01 | dasunt | adb: Nope. :/ |
| 05:07.15 | nkuttler | trakinas: well... it works is the default index page in /var/www/. sounds like you didn't configure apache properly |
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| 05:07.21 | dasunt | Let me try removing the packages adn reinstalling. |
| 05:07.27 | adb | dasunt: nope what ? |
| 05:07.45 | dasunt | adb: they were already installed. |
| 05:07.55 | nkuttler | trakinas: i assume you know about a2ensite? |
| 05:07.55 | cahoot | hesco: a first time test of a bootloader on a system one doesn't have physical access to seems - unwise? |
| 05:08.05 | trakinas | nkuttler: i know is the default page. I thought if I could configure VirtualHosts they would passby it. |
| 05:08.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, site2.tld? |
| 05:08.12 | adb | dasunt: you said not .. |
| 05:08.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | is this your REAL config file? |
| 05:08.15 | trakinas | nkuttler: ran them already |
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| 05:08.27 | adb | dasunt: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 05:08.32 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: is local. I dont want to use a real tld. |
| 05:08.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | and... localhost.site1.tld wtf? |
| 05:08.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | right |
| 05:08.59 | dasunt | adb: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE] [1002:514c] |
| 05:09.01 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: they are just for testing. |
| 05:09.19 | adb | judd: pciid 1002:514c |
| 05:09.20 | judd | adb: [1002:514c] is 'Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'radeonfb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:514c |
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| 05:10.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, I don't think it's a good idea to use a word like 'localhost' as the hostname in a made-up fqdn |
| 05:11.12 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: okay. so i could use test, instead? |
| 05:11.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess so... but you say both don't work |
| 05:11.58 | jpinx-eeepc | trakinas: try using the localhost IP |
| 05:12.11 | jpinx-eeepc | usually 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:12.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, shouldnt matter *:80 |
| 05:12.49 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: yea- but he's got some wierdshit apache stuff going on |
| 05:12.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, why are there 2 files for 2 sites |
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| 05:13.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | normally you define all virtual hosts in one file? |
| 05:13.15 | adb | dpkg: tell dasunt about radeon |
| 05:13.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, well, I feel he's making the config obscure and convoluted on purpose :) |
| 05:13.37 | jpinx-eeepc | trakinas: also make sure it's index.html and not index.htm or index.php |
| 05:13.51 | paragon24[GNU] | How can I install my creative xfi? |
| 05:13.58 | trakinas | jpinx-eeepc: it is .html that Im sure. hehe. |
| 05:14.24 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: convoluted and obscure is good if you know what you're doing ;) |
| 05:14.27 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: no. this is n00bism, I must admit. |
| 05:15.13 | dasunt | Rebooting. |
| 05:15.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | site2 should work imo |
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| 05:15.14 | jpinx-eeepc | trakinas: what's the virtualserver entry say - index.html ? |
| 05:15.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart" in between changes |
| 05:15.33 | jpinx-eeepc | yea - that too :) |
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| 05:15.46 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: Im not THAT newbie. hehe! |
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| 05:17.15 | hesco | well, Lenny's new grub looks weird, but at least its robust. |
| 05:17.17 | paragon24[GNU] | can anyone please point me in the direction of getting my creative x-fi extreme music edition to work? |
| 05:17.36 | hesco | it fell back to an older working kernel |
| 05:17.52 | hesco | I assume it tried the new kernel and it failed. |
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| 05:18.00 | adb | paragon24[GNU]: on ununtu ? |
| 05:18.02 | hesco | wish I could see what errors it threw |
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| 05:19.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, well... it's actually NOT a newbie mistake to assume apache would reread config on-the-fly |
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| 05:19.14 | paragon24[GNU] | abd: what? |
| 05:19.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and perhaps apache2 does... apache-1 didn't) |
| 05:19.45 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: you're right - A2 doesn't - as I discovered ;) |
| 05:20.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha! |
| 05:20.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | see, it was solid advice ;;) |
| 05:20.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops... 4-eyes has spoken! |
| 05:20.54 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: hehe |
| 05:21.24 | adb | paragon24[GNU]: running what/which linux ? |
| 05:22.44 | paragon24[GNU] | abd: debian |
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| 05:24.03 | adb | well , i know nothing about `creative x-fi extreme music edition` , what's that ? |
| 05:24.47 | paragon24[GNU] | just a creative x-fi |
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| 05:24.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | aha! |
| 05:25.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | adb, see, now you know! |
| 05:25.34 | paragon24[GNU] | well if he doesnt know what a x-fi is...wow. |
| 05:25.46 | jpinx-eeepc | what's x-fi ? |
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| 05:26.01 | adb | yeah what's x-fi ? |
| 05:26.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | isn't it pronounced "sci-fi"? |
| 05:26.19 | Milos | Simple question guys - how do I add/remove daemons from boot in Debian 5. |
| 05:26.30 | Milos | And as a side note, how do I check what version of Debian I'm running. |
| 05:26.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | update-rc.d or rcconf |
| 05:26.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | or just remove the softlinks from rc2.d |
| 05:27.00 | paragon24[GNU] | links allowed here? |
| 05:27.15 | adb | Milos: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 05:27.21 | the|herbivore | Milos: less /etc/debian_version |
| 05:27.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | sure |
| 05:27.43 | Milos | Sweet I'm running 5.02 - the upgrade went smoothly. |
| 05:27.49 | Milos | So then how do I add/remove stuff from boot? |
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| 05:28.15 | paragon24[GNU] | adb: http://tiny.cc/creativexfi |
| 05:28.29 | adb | Milos: what's add/remove stuff from boot ? |
| 05:28.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | Milos, I just answered that? |
| 05:28.37 | adb | paragon24[GNU]: ok |
| 05:29.01 | Milos | CutMeOwnThroat, ... sorry you didn't include my name I had no idea. |
| 05:29.07 | adb | ah . ok CutMeOwnThroat .. |
| 05:29.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | soundblaster! |
| 05:30.16 | adb | soundbastard .. |
| 05:30.30 | paragon24[GNU] | heh |
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| 05:30.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | paragon24[GNU], so what's the problem with it? |
| 05:31.06 | adb | don't work CutMeOwnThroat |
| 05:31.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh |
| 05:31.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | !don't work |
| 05:31.19 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 05:31.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | you mean? |
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| 05:32.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean... one obvious problem might be that most boards have an on-board sound card |
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| 05:32.40 | paragon24[GNU] | yeah, really. |
| 05:33.01 | adb | paragon24: lenny ? |
| 05:34.14 | adb | paragon24: uname -r , says ? |
| 05:35.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | duh... there were no drivers for this until 2008 |
| 05:35.04 | paragon24[GNU] | adb: 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 05:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html#X-FI |
| 05:36.24 | ajavid | yo |
| 05:36.26 | ajavid | whats up |
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| 05:37.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | paragon24[GNU], what does a $200 soundcard do, that $20 soundcards don't, btw.? |
| 05:37.32 | ajavid | check out this weird deal. I downlaod frostwire deb from frostwire website, installed it, and when I launch it as user, it says Java exec found in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/ OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com [/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java = Picked] -- but when I launch it as root, it starts up just fine |
| 05:37.39 | ajavid | any ideas? |
| 05:37.49 | trakinas | http://pastie.org/540996 - my doubt is... what /etc/hosts means? it says that when I type test1.com it will point me to localhost and then to the file I mapped in virtual hosts? and how can I be sure that I won access an external site called test1.com? |
| 05:37.54 | adb | paragon24: lspci -nn | grep Audio , use !paste |
| 05:38.38 | jpinx-eeepc | ajavid: permissions on the depends? |
| 05:39.17 | Milos | Is xinetd and inetd really required if you use networking? |
| 05:39.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | paragon24[GNU], also... lsmod | grep snd-ca0106 |
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| 05:40.35 | ajavid | jpinx-eeepc, no, I'm just wondering if anyone else has used or does use frostwire |
| 05:40.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | paragon24[GNU], if that dosn't return anything, run dmesg|tail;modprobe snd-ca0106;dmesg|tail (compare the 2 dmesg outputs) |
| 05:40.48 | ajavid | did you look at /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrostwire.sh |
| 05:40.56 | paragon24[GNU] | cutMeOwnThroat: I got it free, so no complaints here. |
| 05:40.59 | ajavid | their java detection routine sucks balls |
| 05:41.15 | ajavid | its a simple fix, but I'm just wondering why it sucks so much |
| 05:41.44 | adb | paragon24[GNU]: you sure it still works ? |
| 05:42.12 | paragon24[GNU] | adb: I've used it on other platforms previously. |
| 05:42.25 | adb | nice |
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| 05:43.10 | jpinx-eeepc | trakinas: you are making a real meal of your setup - I just use the internal IP if it's in the same box |
| 05:44.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, you need a name for virtual hosts... |
| 05:44.40 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: odd - I don't |
| 05:44.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, less obscure names would have made it easier |
| 05:44.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | you don't? |
| 05:45.06 | adb | !name |
| 05:45.07 | dpkg | name is, like, The name comes from the names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra. (See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/) |
| 05:45.07 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: 127.0.0.1/whatever works fine |
| 05:45.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean you need names for >1 virtual host |
| 05:45.14 | trakinas | jpinx-eeepc: would you explain me how? that is what confuses me... how I get my browser to know that abcd.com will point to /home/www/abcd/ and efgh.com will point to /home/www/efgh/ |
| 05:45.53 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: ah - maybe - i only point 127.0.0.1 at a folder with everything in it |
| 05:46.04 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: updated the names. http://pastie.org/540996 |
| 05:46.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, does that hosts stuff work? |
| 05:46.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | i.e. can you ping test1.com |
| 05:46.32 | macrobat | what does the aptitude score mean? "Score is -9879" |
| 05:46.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and get ping-times of 0ms) |
| 05:46.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | macrobat, how good a solution is |
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| 05:47.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | (obviously) |
| 05:47.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, /etc/hostname shouldn't matter, btw. |
| 05:47.42 | jpinx-eeepc | trakinas: it'd be easier to use separate ports for the two sites and do NameVirtualHost localhost:5555 |
| 05:48.21 | trakinas | jpinx-eeepc,CutMeOwnThroat: now you are given me ideas... hehe! |
| 05:48.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, that actually looks ok(ish) to me now |
| 05:48.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | that still doesn't work? |
| 05:48.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I wonder if apache reads all your config files |
| 05:48.52 | trakinas | i will test. one sec |
| 05:48.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | and stuff like this |
| 05:49.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | nothing easier than changing a config file that's not read |
| 05:49.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | or something like that |
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| 05:50.14 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: how can I test if apache reads everything? |
| 05:50.36 | jpinx-eeepc | trakinas: when you name the virtualhost as localhost it's usually accessible by 127.0.0.1 or by localhost |
| 05:51.30 | trakinas | jpinx-eeepc: yep |
| 05:51.52 | trakinas | but what i want to do is to use a "fake domain" to access 2 different sites. |
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| 05:52.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
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| 05:52.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, apache2ctl configtest is a good start |
| 05:53.46 | trakinas | (how do i reallod a file in vim? i changed it on another buffer... #( ) |
| 05:54.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't it ask you to press 'l'? |
| 05:54.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | :q! exits without writing |
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| 05:56.04 | trakinas | in fact, I did a 'vim thisfile'. did not open a new buffer because i thought there wasnt any vim opened. |
| 05:56.07 | trakinas | anyway. |
| 05:56.18 | trakinas | configtest said "syntax okay" |
| 05:57.04 | trakinas | test1.com timedout. |
| 05:57.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | timedout? |
| 05:58.00 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: firefox kept trying to load it |
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| 05:58.24 | trakinas | and stoped after an awhile |
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| 05:58.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | ping test1.com gives you 0.something ms? |
| 05:59.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks like apache2's not running then? |
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| 06:02.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | adb, thank you for sharing that factoid, btw. :-P |
| 06:03.13 | adb | ? |
| 06:03.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | "!name" |
| 06:03.23 | adb | hah |
| 06:03.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | distinct and to the point as ever |
| 06:03.49 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3999ms |
| 06:04.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | 3999ms? |
| 06:04.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | what time is that for localhost? |
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| 06:05.21 | Supaplex | how do I display the local rsa hostkey fingerprint to compare with the nastygram ssh prints when the key doesn't match? |
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| 06:06.52 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: yep... PING test1.com (192.168.1.4) 56(84) bytes of data. |
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| 06:08.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | Supaplex, cat /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub? |
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| 06:08.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, you have 4s lag pinging to localhost? |
| 06:09.03 | Supaplex | that doesn't show the fingerprint. it's ascii armored, and if ssh is yelling about a host check, not quite. |
| 06:10.01 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: believe or not.... http://pastie.org/540996 |
| 06:10.05 | Supaplex | I suppose I could compare that with line x locally. |
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| 06:10.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, that's total time... your round-trip is 0.06ms |
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| 06:12.24 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: hehe! dont mind. Im a bit tired. thought you were saying about total time. |
| 06:12.33 | Supaplex | blah. the fingerprint would also help establish "The authenticity of host 'foo (ip.ip.ip.ip)' can't be established." - as this only prints it as a fingerprint |
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| 06:13.45 | mrtn123 | how can I view the filesystem type on the partition? |
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| 06:14.57 | Supaplex | mrtn123: mounted, or not? |
| 06:15.08 | jpinx-eeepc | mrtn123: fdisk -l |
| 06:15.12 | mrtn123 | Supaplex: mounted |
| 06:15.27 | rozie | mount |
| 06:16.03 | Supaplex | ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub |
| 06:16.07 | Supaplex | yay \o/ |
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| 06:18.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, actually, your config file works fine for me |
| 06:18.30 | mrtn123 | sorry, I was little bit unspecific. The drives are in softraid. When I do "fdisk -l" the output is fallowing --> http://pastebin.com/m6472280f How can I detect the filesystem on drives, which are in mdadm softraid? |
| 06:18.45 | Supaplex | file -sk |
| 06:18.56 | rozie | mrtn123: mount, if it's mounted |
| 06:19.12 | else58 | I want to run "gdb vmlinux /proc/kcore", so is there a FAQ for getting a -g compiled vmlinux for a standard linux-image? |
| 06:19.23 | mrtn123 | rozie: but if it's not mounted? |
| 06:19.37 | rozie | mrtn123: 08:17 < mrtn123> Supaplex: mounted |
| 06:20.03 | Supaplex | mrtn123: cat /proc/partitions and use file -sk on partition in question. |
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| 06:20.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, I copied your 2 virtual hosts into my virtual hosts file (edited target dirs to fit some I have) added an entry "127.0.0.1 test1.com test2.com" to /etc/hosts and I got 2 more virtual hosts |
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| 06:21.48 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: amazing. let me try |
| 06:22.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | trakinas, to cite dilbert... "have you ruled out stupidity yet"? |
| 06:22.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | (sorry) |
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| 06:24.39 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: haha! no troubles about the joke. =P |
| 06:24.44 | trakinas | Dilbert is nice. |
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| 06:32.01 | macrobat | ia32-libs simultaneously depends and conflicts with ia32-apt-get ? |
| 06:33.08 | jpinx-eeepc | having installed something with dpkg -i - will aptitude purge delete it all? |
| 06:33.21 | jpinx-eeepc | tries anyway |
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| 06:34.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, what difference do you think it makes if you install something via aptitude of dpkg? |
| 06:35.07 | jpinx-eeepc | dunno - it's a moot anyway aptitude roolz ;) |
| 06:35.35 | vk5foss | CutMeOwnThroat, i'd assume that dpkg wont access aptitudes installed database. |
| 06:35.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | it rolls? |
| 06:35.48 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:35.51 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:35.53 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:35.56 | TiMiDo | jddoghacker, stop lamer |
| 06:35.57 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:36.04 | TiMiDo | !ops jddoghacker flooding the channel |
| 06:36.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: timido complains about: jddoghacker flooding the channel |
| 06:36.06 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:36.08 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:36.08 | vk5foss | i'm supprised dpkg hasnt acted yet |
| 06:36.10 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:36.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, the late-nite retards are loose again |
| 06:36.16 | jddoghacker | shit |
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| 06:36.37 | Phasy13 | !ops jddoghacker |
| 06:36.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: phasy13 complains about: jddoghacker |
| 06:36.39 | liable | tardsday again |
| 06:36.47 | TiMiDo | DLange, jddoghacker was flooding like crazy the channel |
| 06:36.49 | Supaplex | they grow up so fast. I miss the older wannabes |
| 06:36.58 | trakinas | loves /ignore command |
| 06:37.32 | jddoghacker | shit |
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| 06:37.35 | jddoghacker | shit |
| 06:37.38 | jddoghacker | shitshit |
| 06:37.53 | trakinas | CutMeOwnThroat: hey! I have to go now. thank you! =] |
| 06:38.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 06:38.10 | Supaplex | !beer DLange |
| 06:38.10 | dpkg | deftly decants a fine Piraat for DLange |
| 06:38.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | a) so much about that |
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| 06:38.20 | DLange | yeah, he spammed as jake_ in ##linux, this is why I came here |
| 06:38.31 | trakinas | cheers all! |
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| 06:38.43 | Supaplex | DLange: drop by anytime :) |
| 06:38.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
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| 06:39.31 | Phasy13 | ah, it's so easy to work in mornings, when you're code succeeds from the first try |
| 06:40.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | still I found a bug in your last sentence :) |
| 06:40.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | so... |
| 06:40.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | WORRY |
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| 06:42.36 | Phasy13 | CutMeOwnThroat :D i found it too |
| 06:42.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | try recompiling it |
| 06:42.48 | Phasy13 | s/you're/your |
| 06:42.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | worx for me |
| 06:43.22 | Phasy13 | that's my default error in english, as well as than/then problem |
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| 06:44.12 | jpinx-eeepc | I found 2 bugs in that sentence |
| 06:44.32 | Phasy13 | ? |
| 06:44.41 | Phasy13 | s/error/mistake |
| 06:45.34 | jpinx-eeepc | _the_ mornings |
| 06:45.46 | jpinx-eeepc | you're / your |
| 06:47.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think that's not really wrong... English is quite a tolerant language |
| 06:47.14 | Phasy13 | +1 |
| 06:47.20 | jpinx-eeepc | it's wrong |
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| 06:47.32 | Phasy13 | i see people omitting 'the' very often |
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| 06:48.24 | jpinx-eeepc | Phasy13: I see bad english every day |
| 06:48.42 | jpinx-eeepc | especially on irc ;) |
| 06:49.15 | Phasy13 | I usually use 'the' in senteces like "I drink tea in the morning" |
| 06:49.23 | Phasy13 | when the noun is in singular |
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| 06:49.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | teh lulz u r sarios abut that? |
| 06:50.10 | macrobat | u can remove "in" instaed of inserting a "the" |
| 06:50.49 | adb | dpkg: tell CutMeOwnThroat about u | r |
| 06:51.05 | adb | dpkg: tell macrobat about u |
| 06:51.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | context... adb, context |
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| 06:51.25 | howie | simple question here. been asking around and no luck so far... |
| 06:51.32 | howie | basically, i have a working bind server running and I have example.com pointing to my main box. what i want to do is have example2.com point to my second box in a way that i can host both a website and other various services on the second box. |
| 06:52.08 | howie | ive read that apache2 can do this with reverse proxy, but from what i understand that only works with http traffic. |
| 06:52.30 | Phasy13 | well apache is a http server for a reason |
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| 06:52.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | I honestly don't wanna know about what he calls "complicate questions" |
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| 06:52.53 | jpinx-eeepc | macrobat: you can not remove "in" from "in the mornings" |
| 06:53.03 | mrtn123 | if I have for example 512MB or 1024MB memory, should I set up swap size exactly 1024MB or 2048MB? I mean is it somehow bad if I make the size of swap space for example 1021MB of 1900MB? |
| 06:53.36 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: yes - Apahce does http |
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| 06:53.56 | adb | Apache* |
| 06:54.06 | jpinx-eeepc | yea - that too :p |
| 06:54.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | mrtn123, why should it |
| 06:54.33 | howie | ive read something up a split view dns setup, but due to my general lack of expertise with DNS... i am not sure if this is what i should be looking into |
| 06:54.50 | cmyers_home | howie: I've done that, it is a challenge. |
| 06:54.54 | ajavid | PHP Warning: Module 'xdebug' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 |
| 06:54.57 | ajavid | wtf |
| 06:54.59 | adb | mrtn123: ~1.5 x RAM |
| 06:55.08 | bkraptor | is there a way to install lenny from usb drive? |
| 06:55.14 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: you should stick to simple dns setups |
| 06:55.31 | adb | bkraptor: !usb install |
| 06:55.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell bkraptor about usb install |
| 06:55.33 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: yes |
| 06:55.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | hell |
| 06:55.40 | jpinx-eeepc | heh |
| 06:55.54 | mrtn123 | adb: ok, but the size of the swap space don't have to be power of two? |
| 06:56.03 | adb | no |
| 06:56.03 | bkraptor | thx |
| 06:56.07 | macrobat | i can work mornings |
| 06:56.07 | howie | haha... so no practical way to set up 2 boxes on 1 ip with a unique domain for each? |
| 06:56.10 | howie | >< |
| 06:56.12 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: you will be building yourself a big headache |
| 06:56.26 | Supaplex | I run some machines with no swap. one machine or two has 10gb swap. depends on how much virtual memory you'll need. |
| 06:56.47 | streuner | !find /usr/bin/nmblookup |
| 06:56.58 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: if the boxes are in a NAT - use ports forwarding~ |
| 06:57.04 | streuner | What happens to nmblookup in unstable? |
| 06:57.08 | Supaplex | CutMeOwnThroat: motd material there! :D 00:55 < CutMeOwnThroat> I honestly don't wanna know about what he calls "complicate questions" |
| 06:57.34 | howie | haha |
| 06:57.34 | adb | mrtn123: installer will arrange it himself |
| 06:57.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | Supaplex, honest truth! |
| 06:57.48 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/usr/bin/nmblookup' (1): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/nmblookup.samba3) in debug/samba-dbg. |
| 06:57.52 | howie | ok i had a feeling that would be the simplest solution |
| 06:58.01 | mrtn123 | adb: ok, thansk! |
| 06:58.02 | jpinx-eeepc | mrtn123: I have 2Gbs RAM and no swap |
| 06:58.12 | macrobat | jpinx-eeepc: see how the phrase flows ^ |
| 06:58.15 | adb | mrtn123: np |
| 06:58.43 | mrtn123 | By the way, why is there an option to make swap partition bootable? |
| 06:58.44 | jpinx-eeepc | macrobat: you need to go to #English for more of this ;) |
| 06:58.47 | bkraptor | how can I direct all I/O to the serial port? |
| 06:58.51 | macrobat | with a swapfile, i dont have to worry about size, right? |
| 06:59.01 | jpinx-eeepc | mrtn123: dunno - ignore it |
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| 06:59.09 | Supaplex | howie: can't vnc connect to a port of its choosing? why not setup destination nat for port forwarding to each inside box? (and apache for http only) |
| 06:59.31 | jpinx-eeepc | macrobat: you define the size of a swapfile as you wish |
| 06:59.38 | Supaplex | !swap |
| 06:59.38 | dpkg | swap is, like, RAM you wish you had. Generally it is said that for low amounts of RAM, you should have twice the RAM as swap. You don't have to have a swap partition either, as you can always create a swap file and use that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swap_space#Swapping_in_Linux |
| 06:59.43 | jpinx-eeepc | Supaplex: I said that! |
| 06:59.52 | Supaplex | my bad :) |
| 06:59.57 | jpinx-eeepc | ;) |
| 07:00.17 | Supaplex | dpkg: quit repeating what jpinx-eeepc says. ok? now just give me a dumb look if you agree. |
| 07:00.17 | dpkg | You are moron #1, Supaplex |
| 07:00.21 | Supaplex | that works. |
| 07:00.27 | jpinx-eeepc | heh |
| 07:00.29 | howie | supaplex: yes but i was trying to make it as easy an possible on the users using the clients... without having to remember port numbers |
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| 07:00.49 | adb | mrtn123: there is not , it's you who may or not decide if a partition is bootable , btw linux don't need it at all |
| 07:01.08 | Supaplex | howie: no. you want good fast and cheap. get a second ip, or live with the suggested alternatives. |
| 07:01.37 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: you are building yourself a headache ;) |
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| 07:01.53 | Supaplex | especially with that customer thing. ;) |
| 07:02.11 | howie | lol |
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| 07:02.42 | howie | no customers... just brain dead users |
| 07:02.51 | Supaplex | there's a difference? |
| 07:02.51 | jpinx-eeepc | there are multile ways of doing what you're attempting - all of them horrid - get another IP |
| 07:02.56 | howie | lol! |
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| 07:03.04 | howie | lol |
| 07:03.07 | howie | nice |
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| 07:03.10 | howie | anyways |
| 07:03.16 | howie | thanks guys for the input |
| 07:03.23 | Supaplex | oh that's right. customers give the illusion you might make some money off the effort. |
| 07:03.26 | Supaplex | !lol |
| 07:03.26 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 07:03.31 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: in box1 mount sshfs box2's filesystem - problem solved |
| 07:03.35 | howie | i think you just saved me a very large bundle of frustration |
| 07:04.04 | Supaplex | I tink he needs a begger bawx |
| 07:04.20 | jpinx-eeepc | howie: the basic rule is one box/one IP |
| 07:04.21 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:04.36 | Supaplex | server. pc. computer. stuff that runs linux and toys. |
| 07:04.46 | adb | ok |
| 07:04.53 | Supaplex | only with an accent like them old taco bell commericals. |
| 07:04.56 | jpinx-eeepc | Supaplex: 2 boxes is daft - I really don't get itk |
| 07:05.16 | Supaplex | that's what heartbeat is for :P |
| 07:05.28 | Supaplex | and vserver imo |
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| 07:06.26 | jpinx-eeepc | I run 2 boxes behind the router, but all :80 requests go to one - where they go from there is *my* business:p |
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| 07:07.52 | Supaplex | I pray no one invents layer 4 vrrp. that'd be a %*@$( to troubleshoot. |
| 07:08.00 | Supaplex | vrrp alone is bad enough |
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| 07:12.46 | Phasy13 | OMG |
| 07:12.54 | Phasy13 | terminal doesn't work |
| 07:12.55 | Phasy13 | WTF |
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| 07:13.27 | Phasy13 | how could I break the terminal damn |
| 07:14.42 | macrobat | i can break it by "cat binary_file" and repair it with "sane" |
| 07:15.11 | Phasy13 | but I didn't do anything |
| 07:15.14 | vk5foss | with sane? |
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| 07:15.20 | Phasy13 | it just crashed and doesn't start |
| 07:16.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | sane? |
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| 07:16.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | the scanner thing 'repairs terminals'? |
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| 07:23.45 | bkraptor | why is it not possible to have more than 1 primary partition on a usb stick? |
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| 07:26.22 | yurikoles | !rmp |
| 07:26.35 | yurikoles | !rpm |
| 07:26.35 | dpkg | RPM is both the RPM Package Manager and the file format for its packages. alien can convert a .rpm package to a .deb. converts to a <cpio> archive via the rpm2cpio command (in the rpm debian package) Note that alien doesn't do a very good job of converting the package and that you should use a proper Debian package in preference to using alien. Also ask me about <stow><checkinstall> |
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| 07:30.54 | yurikoles | how to install centos in chroot? |
| 07:31.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | bkraptor, it is not? |
| 07:32.01 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: most sticks are vfat single partition by default |
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| 07:32.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | yurikoles, install it into a free partitition, mount it, chroot into it? |
| 07:32.25 | yurikoles | just use fdisk, (g)parted, whatever |
| 07:32.26 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: if you mess with that (as I did) the stick is uselees in Windows systemsf |
| 07:32.34 | bkraptor | yeah, but gparted won't let me add more than 1 primary partition to the usb stick |
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| 07:32.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | cfdisk? |
| 07:32.53 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: use logical partitions then |
| 07:32.54 | bkraptor | CutMeOwnThroat: that's what i used and it seems to be working now |
| 07:33.01 | yurikoles | nork, install from debian without bourning discs |
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| 07:33.10 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: why use logical partitions when I know for a fact that normal disks can have 4 primary partitions? |
| 07:33.25 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: note what I said above - you will disable the stick for windows |
| 07:33.34 | yurikoles | do you removed all patition before that? |
| 07:33.37 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: that's not an issue :) |
| 07:33.40 | yurikoles | no |
| 07:33.47 | bkraptor | yurikoles: yes |
| 07:33.54 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: fine - then batter at it:) |
| 07:34.13 | yurikoles | the firs partition needs to be with windows supported fs |
| 07:34.28 | bkraptor | fat16 is not supported in windows? |
| 07:34.30 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: I use cfdisk and make them all ext3 |
| 07:34.36 | yurikoles | all partition you want to use with windows must be in beggining |
| 07:35.05 | bkraptor | yurikoles: I only want to use it to install lenny |
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| 07:35.16 | jpinx-eeepc | yurikoles: you can get ext3 readers for windows ;) |
| 07:35.37 | bkraptor | btw, does anyone know if it's possible to install lenny on a system that has no keyboard or video out, but only a serial port? |
| 07:36.05 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: I have an installed lenny on logical partitions on a stick and it boots fine |
| 07:36.38 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: yes - it's possible to install lenny on a toaster if you have the skills;) |
| 07:36.56 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: I don't |
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| 07:37.06 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: can you ssh the box? |
| 07:37.14 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: it has nothing on it atm |
| 07:37.26 | bkraptor | I mean I think it has, but I can't access it |
| 07:37.28 | jpinx-eeepc | see debian.org for multiple methods of installing on wierd systems |
| 07:37.45 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: this is something like an ex-firewall from Symantec |
| 07:37.57 | bkraptor | it's actually a PC with normal RAM and HDD and ATX PSU |
| 07:38.20 | bkraptor | so I'm trying to revive it, because I don't have access to any updates for it |
| 07:38.29 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: you need to be able to see what's happening and input the commands - by ssh through another box works |
| 07:38.30 | bkraptor | but it's not outputting anything on the serial port |
| 07:38.50 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: I would ssh, but there's no IP set on the thing |
| 07:39.07 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: does it have an OS? |
| 07:39.25 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: I think it might, but I'm not sure what it's running |
| 07:39.30 | bkraptor | might be some sort of linux |
| 07:39.42 | bkraptor | as I said, I can't access it in any way |
| 07:39.56 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: well -- whatever - you need to be able to talk to it;) |
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| 07:40.25 | g00se | Is it networked? |
| 07:40.38 | bkraptor | g00se: yes |
| 07:40.57 | jpinx-eeepc | g00se: I thought you said it has no IP? |
| 07:40.58 | g00se | bkraptor: why not port scan it? |
| 07:41.11 | bkraptor | g00se: because I have no clue what IP it has configured, if any |
| 07:41.15 | jpinx-eeepc | if it's on a network, it has an IP |
| 07:41.43 | g00se | bkraptor: Scan your whole net then. You might be able to telnet, ssh to it. |
| 07:41.58 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: if it's behind the nat, look at the router DHCP tables |
| 07:41.59 | bkraptor | g00se: there are about 1000 PCs in this VLAN :) |
| 07:42.23 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: it's going to be a long night then ;) |
| 07:42.38 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: it's morning actually :) |
| 07:42.48 | jpinx-eeepc | heh |
| 07:42.53 | g00se | bkraptor: Scan it with OS detection and eliminate Windows or anything obvious |
| 07:43.17 | jpinx-eeepc | difficult to scan without knowing the IP |
| 07:43.52 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: can you not find the dhcp tables for the vlan? |
| 07:44.02 | g00se | jpinx-eeepc: Not at all ;-) |
| 07:44.04 | jpinx-eeepc | a complete list of machines names vs IP's |
| 07:44.15 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: I'm not the network admin here |
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| 07:44.34 | jpinx-eeepc | g00se: how - I'd like that trick : |
| 07:44.37 | bkraptor | hm, there's no MAC registered to the switch port |
| 07:45.22 | bkraptor | what can I add to syslinux.cfg to make it spit all output to a serial port? |
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| 07:46.05 | g00se | nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 07:46.17 | jpinx-eeepc | bkraptor: is it awired vlan or all wifi - or a mix? |
| 07:46.20 | bkraptor | nmap 10.10.0.0/16 :) |
| 07:46.30 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: mix, but this thing is wired |
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| 07:46.43 | bkraptor | and I have access to the switch to which it's connected |
| 07:46.48 | jpinx-eeepc | well - that's some elimination ;) |
| 07:46.54 | bkraptor | and the switch is not registering a mac address on the port |
| 07:47.02 | bkraptor | which means this thing is not making any sort of traffic |
| 07:47.17 | jpinx-eeepc | it might be dead Jim ;) |
| 07:47.33 | jpinx-eeepc | can you reboot it? |
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| 07:48.31 | bkraptor | I can |
| 07:48.52 | jpinx-eeepc | it might generate traffic when it's rebooting |
| 07:49.00 | bkraptor | it's nto |
| 07:49.01 | bkraptor | not |
| 07:49.15 | jpinx-eeepc | depends on what you have to lose ;) |
| 07:49.25 | bkraptor | it's not generating any traffic |
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| 07:50.10 | jpinx-eeepc | when you reboot it - whatever OS might try to reconnect to the vlan and generate traffic |
| 07:50.55 | jpinx-eeepc | the switches dhcp table has probably refreshed since it last got traffic from the dead box |
| 07:51.06 | jpinx-eeepc | hence it's not showing |
| 07:51.13 | bkraptor | jpinx-eeepc: it's not the switch keeping track of dhcp |
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| 07:51.29 | bkraptor | and I'm not talking about dhcp, I'm not seeing any trafic at all, hence no mac detected on the port |
| 07:52.05 | jpinx-eeepc | Hmm - beyond me then if you can't find it and talk to it - it might as well not be there;) |
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| 07:52.34 | zxd_ | hi, anyone know if PPP in linux can use kerberos authentication or PAM |
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| 07:57.57 | yurikoles | how to install flash amd64? |
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| 08:00.14 | yurikoles | i downlaoded http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz |
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| 08:00.40 | yurikoles | and extracted it in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ |
| 08:01.26 | yurikoles | in ff streaming video dont work (i.e. youtube), in opera it dont works at all |
| 08:01.43 | valdyn | yurikoles: use the debian package |
| 08:01.44 | valdyn | !flash |
| 08:01.44 | dpkg | well, flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 08:02.01 | valdyn | !adobe flash |
| 08:02.01 | dpkg | Adobe Flash Player is <non-free> and cannot be in a stable Debian release because Adobe doesn't provide security support for older versions (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). The easiest way to install flash is with the flashplayer-mozilla package from <debian-multimedia.org>; there is also a flashplugin-nonfree package for sid and backports.org users. Ask me about <dmm> <non-free> <bpo> <flash64beta> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 08:02.35 | yurikoles | !flash64beta |
| 08:02.35 | dpkg | To use the beta flash non-free player without running into problems in usermode download the tar.gz from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html, mkdir /home/`whoami`/.mozilla/plugins and copy the extracted .so into it. |
| 08:02.45 | valdyn | uh |
| 08:02.51 | valdyn | yurikoles: forget about that, its outdated |
| 08:03.01 | valdyn | dpkg: forget flash64beta |
| 08:03.02 | dpkg | i forgot flash64beta, valdyn |
| 08:03.17 | yurikoles | i lol'd |
| 08:03.25 | yurikoles | dpkg: forget debian |
| 08:03.25 | dpkg | cannot alter locked factoids, yurikoles |
| 08:03.32 | yurikoles | ) |
| 08:03.44 | yurikoles | dpkg: forget linux |
| 08:03.44 | dpkg | yurikoles: cannot alter locked factoids |
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| 08:04.08 | valdyn | yurikoles: your plugin install still works, but its not active currently, read about:plugins in your iceweasel |
| 08:04.37 | yurikoles | how about opera? |
| 08:04.49 | valdyn | yurikoles: what does opera have to do with it? |
| 08:05.00 | valdyn | yurikoles: i cannot support opera, i dont use it, its not in debian |
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| 08:05.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | yurikoles, don't try to delete factoids |
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| 08:08.02 | yurikoles | i did it for the lulz |
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| 08:08.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | wreck your own bot for 'teh lulz' |
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| 08:10.52 | yurikoles | i putted it in /usr/lib/opera/plugins and its works! |
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| 08:11.09 | yurikoles | how to teach bot about that? |
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| 08:15.50 | macrobat | is flash64 beta now? why was that factoid wrong? |
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| 08:16.36 | Raven737 | i.. quick question.. i have to define the hardware for two new debian server.. i am thinking about a dell poweredge R710/R610 with PERC 6/i RAID, Controller Broadcom 5709 nic abd X5560 (i7 based) Xeon.. will this work with debian lenny? (drivers etc) |
| 08:16.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | there was no flash64 for quite some time... but there is now and there is a package |
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| 08:17.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions flashplayer-mozilla |
| 08:17.37 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: flashplayer-mozilla -- etch-multimedia: 1:9.0.152.0-0.0 sid-multimedia: 1:10.0.22.87-0.0 squeeze-multimedia: 1:10.0.22.87-0.0 lenny-multimedia: 1:10.0.22.87-0.1 |
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| 08:18.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's flash-10 in lenny now which also exists in a 64-bit version |
| 08:18.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | so flash-10-beta is outdated |
| 08:19.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the whole factoid is now useless |
| 08:19.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions linux-image-2.6 |
| 08:19.43 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: linux-image-2.6 -- |
| 08:19.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 08:19.58 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 squeeze: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1 sid: 2.6.30+20 |
| 08:20.36 | Raven737 | Hi, does anybody know of any problems with PERC 6/i, i7 based Xeons or Broadcom 5709 NICs when used with lenny? Google gives me little, not sure if that is good or not ;) Thanks! |
| 08:20.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raven737, lenny has a 2.6.26er kernel - check compatibility with that |
| 08:20.38 | Irishmanluke | is this a support channel? |
| 08:21.10 | Raven737 | CutMeOwnThroat: ok will do, thanks! |
| 08:21.39 | Irishmanluke | working on configuring wireless with lenny using b43 module |
| 08:22.36 | Irishmanluke | http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43andb43legacy I've been using that webpage and getting stuck between step 4 and 5 |
| 08:22.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raven737, there are unofficial cdrom images using a newer kernel - /msg dpkg kmuto if you need those |
| 08:22.48 | g00se | Hopes that non-free Flash stuff gets superseded with a good free alternative |
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| 08:23.11 | Irishmanluke | I just installed lenny using netinst |
| 08:23.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | would settle for a non-crashing non-stuttering non-free flash version |
| 08:23.41 | Irishmanluke | amen CutMeOwnThroat |
| 08:24.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | !b43legacy |
| 08:24.07 | dpkg | [b43legacy] the new driver for legacy Broadcom wireless LAN chipsets (ie. old 802.11b and early model 802.11g), included since kernel 2.6.24. Version 3 firmware required to be loaded before operation, ask about <b43-fwcutter>. USB devices are not supported. Modern BCM43xx devices are supported by the <b43> driver. See also <which b43>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 08:24.09 | Irishmanluke | wishes that we didn't have to rely on flash in the first place |
| 08:24.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | also |
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| 08:25.04 | g00se | svg animations one day? |
| 08:25.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha! |
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| 08:26.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Irishmanluke, "stuck" |
| 08:26.54 | Irishmanluke | CutMeOwnThroat: no wireless extensions don't know what to do now |
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| 08:27.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | lsmod|grep b43 says? |
| 08:28.14 | Irishmanluke | CutMeOwnThroat: Do you want me to pastebin it or are you just looking for a specific line? |
| 08:29.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | from that I guess the module is loaded :) |
| 08:29.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | which module is it? |
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| 08:29.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | argh |
| 08:30.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | 3:30 |
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| 08:30.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | I better make my way home |
| 08:30.15 | Irishmanluke | http://pastebin.com/m5498960a |
| 08:30.24 | Irishmanluke | b43 |
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| 08:31.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | interesting, you got b43 AND b43legacy |
| 08:31.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | !which b43 |
| 08:31.32 | dpkg | From the wireless.kernel.org b43 page: "b43legacy should be used on all 4301 and 4303 cards. 4306 and 4309 cards with a MAC core revision of 4 or less should also use b43legacy. b43 should be used on all other cards. [..] The kernel autoloader will automatically do the right thing and load the correct driver for your device." |
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| 08:32.45 | bawok | hello , why my root says -sh tar not found how to install tar manualy? |
| 08:33.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, and iwconfig gives you the "no wireless extension" message for ... what interface? |
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| 08:33.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | Irishmanluke, I'd unload both modules, then look at dmesg|tail, load the correct module and see what new messages you get |
| 08:33.56 | g00se | aptitude install tar |
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| 08:34.05 | Irishmanluke | CutMeOwnThroat: alright |
| 08:34.25 | Irishmanluke | I think I'll pick this up tomorrow |
| 08:34.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | if there's some error on loading the module, you should see it in dmsgs output |
| 08:34.39 | bawok | g00se : thanks broda |
| 08:34.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | he's not a broda, he's a goose |
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| 08:35.23 | bawok | and one again i think i have problem with socket , i build eggdrop and give shoutcast.tcl and cannot showing stats for radio , how to opn socket ? |
| 08:35.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | nite |
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| 08:38.12 | Irishmanluke | you know what I did at first? I tried to aptitude update in order to get the necessary packages to setup the wifi but I had no internet connection at the time |
| 08:38.24 | Irishmanluke | and I was like "why isn't it working!?" |
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| 08:39.50 | dury | hi there channel :) |
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| 08:46.54 | g00se | bawok: which tar |
| 08:49.15 | bawok | http://pastebin.ca/1490521 |
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| 08:52.11 | nsadmin | did someone ever get nvidia to work with xen? |
| 08:52.22 | tdn | While installing an application, I get this error telling me to inform the package maintainer: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1373.html I am not aware of how to inform the maintainer. I hhope you can help. |
| 08:52.49 | jpinx-eeepc | dury configure locales |
| 08:52.57 | nsadmin | tdn: packagename@packages.debian.org |
| 08:53.02 | g00se | bawok: You should probably be running that as root |
| 08:53.36 | tdn | nsadmin, but from that error, I do not know how to see what the package name is. Is it ucf? zabbix-server-pgsql? dbconfig-common? What? |
| 08:53.57 | bawok | g00se : yes i running it from root |
| 08:55.19 | nsadmin | zabbix-server-pgsql |
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| 08:57.09 | nsadmin | because that's the one that was being "configured" at the time |
| 08:57.52 | tdn | nsadmin, thanks. |
| 08:57.59 | tdn | nsadmin, how do I see that? |
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| 08:58.19 | nsadmin | first line of your paste |
| 08:58.43 | tdn | nsadmin, thanks. |
| 08:58.57 | nsadmin | think about it this way... what are the two stages of a package install? |
| 08:59.06 | iaindalton | How do I remove a package that can't find some of its files to remove? It reports an error then continues to stay installed. |
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| 09:00.03 | PiousMinion | Anyone know why the console only application "kismet" requires a butt-load X stuff? |
| 09:00.17 | PiousMinion | or should I say, why apt 'thinks' it requires it |
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| 09:02.24 | alsd | is there anything special with the d-i installed /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz ? i can't find it back anywhere in /usr/share/keymaps/ |
| 09:03.50 | Supaplex | !bts 536464 |
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| 09:08.39 | nsadmin | tdn: you know the stages? |
| 09:08.42 | cantido | PiousMinion: check what libs it depends on, it might depend on something that needs some of the x11 stuff |
| 09:08.56 | cantido | PiousMinion: sometimes there is a nox package too |
| 09:09.07 | Ironhand | I have a Lenny amd64 system set up as a Xen Dom0, and would like to setup amd64 DomU systems, however online resources I can find only explain how to set up i386 DomU systems... can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 09:10.03 | PiousMinion | cantido: there is no no-x package and I see what all it depends and why I guess I'm asking why this isn't changed or why there isn't a no-x package. |
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| 09:16.00 | nkuttler | PiousMinion: um.. are you pulling in the suggests? which x deps are you talking about? |
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| 09:18.14 | g00se | bawok: Not sure what happened there sorry |
| 09:19.00 | DEBUNTU73 | WHAT COMMAND does report me the ABSOLUTE PATH+FILENAME of a file even it is given relative ?? example: unknowncommand relative/path/file.txt should report /vol1/sub1/relative/path/file.txt Is there a common command like this on every linux box ?? |
| 09:20.38 | tdn | nsadmin, the stages? |
| 09:20.56 | DEBUNTU73 | The command should always return the absolute path of a given file. is there such a well know command doing this ? |
| 09:21.17 | hark | no |
| 09:21.25 | bawok | anybody can help me how open shocket for tcl eggdrop? |
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| 09:22.12 | jony123 | !ask what is dpkg |
| 09:22.12 | dpkg | okay, jony123 |
| 09:22.54 | streuner | !listauth jony123 |
| 09:22.55 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'jony123' (1): ask what. |
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| 09:23.22 | streuner | !forget ask what |
| 09:23.22 | dpkg | i forgot ask what, streuner |
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| 09:25.15 | bawok | hello anybody can help me how open shocket for tcl eggdrop? |
| 09:25.31 | Xunie | bawok, Wow, Haven't you been googling? |
| 09:25.38 | Xunie | My god, We're like... An hour later right? |
| 09:26.02 | Xunie | Ok ok... Like... fourty minuts. |
| 09:26.05 | Xunie | minutes* |
| 09:26.26 | hark | DEBUNTU73: but you could probably use something like readlink for it or script it |
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| 09:27.34 | jelly | right, readlink -f for DEBUNTU73 |
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| 09:30.27 | DEBUNTU73 | hark , jelly: oh wow!! thanks. it seems it realy does what I was looking for. |
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| 09:30.52 | PiousMinion | nkuttler: the kismet in debian is compiled with options for generating maps of gps coords which hrequires libmagick and a whole strew of X libs. |
| 09:31.21 | PiousMinion | that functionality should be optional/sepparated. |
| 09:31.23 | jelly | DEBUNTU73: no guarantees for it being on "every linux box", but it'll be there on Debian |
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| 09:32.44 | DEBUNTU73 | jelly: sure! thanks anyway. |
| 09:33.13 | nkuttler | PiousMinion: i see. well, you could file a wishlist bug for a -nox version i guess |
| 09:33.46 | nkuttler | though debian doesn't have too many -nox packages i think |
| 09:34.22 | PiousMinion | it's also kind of surprising that debian squeeze is using a kismet version from 2005. |
| 09:34.37 | PiousMinion | the newer versions don't require all this even with those options. |
| 09:35.29 | jelly | 2008-05-R1-4+b1 is from 2005? |
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| 09:36.04 | jelly | judd: versions kismet |
| 09:36.04 | judd | jelly: kismet -- etch: 2006.04.R1-1.1 lenny: 2008-05-R1-4 squeeze: 2008-05-R1-4+b1 sid: 2008-05-R1-4+b2 |
| 09:36.05 | PiousMinion | exactly. :P |
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| 09:36.23 | simonrvn | beat me to it, heh |
| 09:36.25 | jelly | PiousMinion: what a weird versioning scheme! |
| 09:36.32 | PiousMinion | rofl |
| 09:36.41 | PiousMinion | where did I get 05 from? hmm |
| 09:36.46 | simonrvn | copter |
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| 09:37.24 | jelly | (it's still probably over a year old) |
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| 09:38.49 | Sarajevo | anyone interested in ##adult channel ? Join and have a nice conversation with adults. thanks |
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| 09:41.23 | simonrvn | ... |
| 09:41.34 | hark | PiousMinion: now that newcore is out, it should be in debian soon |
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| 09:42.31 | jeromeg | Hello |
| 09:42.45 | simonrvn | yeh. on-join spam to pr0n site, blasted with virus attacks to supposed mirc clients, and privmsg from spammers and fake women wanting phone sex. sounds like a blast. NOT |
| 09:42.59 | jeromeg | I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wifi card which works fine |
| 09:43.02 | simonrvn | s,supposed,assumed, |
| 09:43.09 | jeromeg | but I'm not able to use any of the iwpriv commands |
| 09:43.33 | jeromeg | It just replies "no private ioctls." |
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| 09:43.53 | jeromeg | though, I've read that I should be able to use that to set power saving to on |
| 09:44.09 | hark | jeromeg: which driver are you using? |
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| 09:45.14 | jelly | simonrvn: serves you right for wanting to converse with adults! |
| 09:45.39 | simonrvn | jelly: no kidding |
| 09:45.43 | jeromeg | hark: the iwl3945 one |
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| 09:50.49 | Sarajevo | hi, I'm interested in girls. If there is any girl in here send me a message please. Help poor boy to find his mom. |
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| 09:51.52 | g00se | oh dear oh dear oh dear |
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| 09:55.18 | strog_ | hi guys, im trying to install fluxbox and im at the following website http://wiki.debian.org/FluxBox and the part at XDM doesn't work because the mentioned files are not there. |
| 09:56.09 | flaarg | why would you use xdm just out of curiosity |
| 09:56.27 | PepperBob | i just simulated a dist-upgrade from etch to lenny. apt wants to remove some packages and i wonder if i can see why it want to remove them.. |
| 09:56.28 | strog_ | flaarg: where is the downside? |
| 09:56.31 | alsd | flaarg: because we can! ;) |
| 09:56.47 | flaarg | I mean if you want minimal just use startx |
| 09:56.48 | alsd | flaarg: XDM is the one true DM, y'know? ;) |
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| 09:57.24 | flaarg | but since you probably have all the gtklibs or qtlibs installed anyway installing gdm or kdm won't really affect your system |
| 09:57.46 | nsadmin | alsd: it was just the first... the others are no less a dm |
| 09:58.01 | nsadmin | they all use xdmcp |
| 09:58.18 | flaarg | then there is slim |
| 09:58.26 | strog_ | flaarg: my reason for choosing xdm is that it doesnt need to download much |
| 09:58.45 | flaarg | eh and you just make the .xsession file if its not there |
| 09:58.46 | alsd | nsadmin: just kidding |
| 09:59.02 | g00se | strog_: which 'mentioned files'? |
| 09:59.04 | nsadmin | realized that after the fact... |
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| 09:59.42 | strog_ | g00se: the .xsession in the home_directory isnt there |
| 09:59.44 | strog_ | y |
| 09:59.54 | flaarg | strog_: its not there by default make it |
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| 10:00.16 | nsadmin | the system-wide XSession looks for it |
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| 10:00.31 | strog_ | flaarg: ah ok thought that it is there automatically |
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| 10:01.25 | dury | jpinx-eeepc: I did "dpkg-configure locales" and then? |
| 10:01.37 | g00se | strog_: I don't see even that mentioned actually |
| 10:02.10 | strog_ | g00se: what do u mean |
| 10:02.14 | strog_ | the file? |
| 10:02.28 | g00se | strog_: Yes |
| 10:02.37 | flaarg | g00se: its there |
| 10:02.41 | flaarg | To run Fluxbox from xdm you should setup a .xsession file in your home_directory. |
| 10:02.42 | strog_ | g00se:To run Fluxbox from xdm you should setup a .xsession file in your home_directory. |
| 10:02.42 | strog_ | * |
| 10:02.42 | strog_ | exec startfluxbox |
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| 10:02.44 | flaarg | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.03 | rdz | hi all. i am setting up a test VE on test environment and i am having troubles getting network working. i assigned a static IP to the VE and doing ifconfig inside the VE shows me the correct IP address. however i don't seem to be able to talk to the outside world |
| 10:04.10 | Ironhand | can anyone point me to a working kernel image for starting a Lenny amd64 netboot install on a Xen DomU? |
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| 10:06.20 | dury | running lenny under xfce4 desktop environment the thing it's in english... is it a way to setup it in spanish? |
| 10:06.23 | hark | jeromeg: http://www.lesswatts.org/tips/wireless.php |
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| 10:07.19 | g00se | strog_: Yes. So what's the prob then? |
| 10:07.32 | jeromeg | hark: you mean I should use the echo stuff, instead of iwpriv? |
| 10:08.00 | ChadStat | Hi, I've setup a chrooted envronment under lenny, When I have /proc exposed to the chroot ssh works. The only way around that is to compile openssh without selinux, But I want apt to update it automagically. What are the implications of having /proc exposed to a user? |
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| 10:08.07 | strog_ | g00se: problem is that the file is not there and even when i create the file with the desired content it doesnt work |
| 10:08.36 | dury | or simply setup the keyboard in spanish |
| 10:09.23 | hark | jeromeg: yes for the iwl* drivers |
| 10:09.38 | g00se | strog_: Did you restart X completely? |
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| 10:10.37 | bawok | im install shoutcast.tcl but the bot can`t use stats for this radio can show now playing |
| 10:10.42 | strog_ | g00se: shutdown -r mow was even entered |
| 10:10.47 | bawok | whats the problem? |
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| 10:11.15 | g00se | strog_: So you get what exactly? |
| 10:12.48 | strog_ | i get to the xdm and log in normally i only get to the xserver that is it as if i said startx |
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| 10:17.53 | alsd | i'm wondering, is it possible to use a remote X desktop in a VNC-like fashion, or rather screen(1) like, where the state is kept in case of a network problem? |
| 10:17.56 | g00se | strog_: I'm still finding it hard to imagine what you're seeing. You mean it's a terminal or what? |
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| 10:18.26 | alsd | (or if one wishes to reattach elsewhere on the network) |
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| 10:23.36 | bassliner | hi there, i have box where i renamed all profile and bashrc files and i set "PrintMotd no" in sshd_config but it still shows the motd when i login to that box via ssh. any help? |
| 10:23.45 | jeromeg | Are there any manpages/descriptions for the kernel modules? |
| 10:24.08 | jelly | bassliner: which debian release? |
| 10:24.33 | jelly | bassliner: is UseLogin enabled in sshd_config? |
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| 10:24.58 | woden | How do you fix it so that the time doesn't get messed up when you have a dual boot with Vista? |
| 10:25.16 | ChadStat | What do you mean the time gets messed up when you dual boot? |
| 10:25.32 | bassliner | jelly: it's commented. out. debian 5.0 - it's a ubuntu server box actually, but that really shouldn't make any difference i reckon. |
| 10:25.50 | jelly | bassliner: you'd better ask #ubuntu, then |
| 10:26.10 | jelly | we don't know what changes they might have made |
| 10:26.16 | woden | ChadStat: Well I have my BIOS set to local time and this works just fine with Vista. But whenever I boot into Debian, my time is wrong. I remember I did this before, there is some like isa line to put in a file somewhere. |
| 10:26.30 | jelly | woden: /etc/default/rcS |
| 10:26.32 | ChadStat | What is your local time? |
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| 10:26.55 | jelly | woden: there's an UTC setting, you want it set to no |
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| 10:27.02 | woden | ChadStat: Local is gst+1 |
| 10:27.03 | jelly | !utc |
| 10:27.03 | dpkg | utc is probably Coordinated Universal Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utc ; In /etc/default/rcS set UTC appropriately, then run # /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart |
| 10:27.06 | bassliner | jelly: i'm pretty sure they didn't make any, but i'm almost completely sure chances are better to ask in the debian channel here, i will check if i can reproduce it on a freshly installed debian machine tho. |
| 10:27.20 | bassliner | jelly: thanks! |
| 10:27.29 | Led_Zeppelin | I noticed when running this on a multiple core box that, zcat | tail +2 | sort will take up 75% 20% and %5 total, which is basically 1 core. Is there a way to speed this up? I want it to use up more CPUs |
| 10:28.52 | ChadStat | woden: Try tzselect Belfast |
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| 10:29.05 | jelly | Led_Zeppelin: both zcat and sort and single threaded, and sort doesn't take much |
| 10:29.15 | ChadStat | woden: or, Pick a timezone from this page http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/213 |
| 10:29.23 | Led_Zeppelin | jelly, its a very large file. Like a 2GB compressed file |
| 10:30.04 | woden | I think the problem is that vista assumes the bios is set to localtime whereas linux assumes the bios is set to GMT and it uses the timezone to adjust. So whenever you boot into Vista, it changes the BIOS back to localtime. Then when you boot into linux, it reads the BIOS and you get the wrong time. |
| 10:30.08 | Led_Zeppelin | jelly, was wondering if I had made a named pipe would it be much faster? |
| 10:30.21 | jelly | Led_Zeppelin: I don't see why would it. |
| 10:30.26 | Led_Zeppelin | hmm ok |
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| 10:30.35 | ChadStat | woden: That is sorta right, Which is that the UTC setting does. |
| 10:30.37 | bassliner | jelly: so what would happen if wouldn't use login(1) for ssh logins? |
| 10:30.38 | Led_Zeppelin | just trying to sort this large compressed file :-) |
| 10:30.55 | ChadStat | woden: Just change the UTC setting to no, And then pick a timezone from that page and reboot |
| 10:31.05 | bassliner | jelly: the login manpage tells me i can use a zero length .hushlogin file to disable printing of motd |
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| 10:32.08 | jelly | bassliner: sorry, I won't comment on an ubuntu install in this channel (and I don't have one nearby to check the differences anyway) |
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| 10:32.56 | jelly | but I've seen login spew /etc/issue (or was it motd?) on its own |
| 10:33.01 | enouf | woden: OSes shouldn't be allowed to alter BIOSes, it's an abomination - it's like mixing windows and linux; homogenization which pollutes linux |
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| 10:33.26 | ChadStat | If its before the password is entered, Its issue, if after its motd |
| 10:33.30 | woden | enouf: I know, and I agree. I'm helping a friend. I don't have windows installed. |
| 10:33.52 | enouf | woden: you're an enabler@! :-p |
| 10:34.58 | sshd___ | hello I wont install soft, use aptitude but get error - http://www.pastebin.org/889 |
| 10:35.02 | woden | enouf: What is the timezone line in /etc/default/rcS ? |
| 10:35.21 | enouf | !set the time |
| 10:35.21 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
| 10:35.33 | enouf | woden: you mean, you want to see my settings? |
| 10:35.41 | woden | enouf: Would be nice yes. |
| 10:35.58 | jelly | woden: what timezone line? There's a boolean UTC= value. You probably want it to be set to "no". |
| 10:36.25 | enouf | woden: # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if not. |
| 10:36.28 | enouf | UTC=no |
| 10:36.32 | woden | jelly: ChadStat said "Just change the UTC setting to no, And then pick a timezone from that page and reboot". What timezone is he referring to? |
| 10:37.00 | jelly | woden: that page meaning the url above |
| 10:37.06 | jelly | !tzselect |
| 10:37.11 | ChadStat | woden: To set your timezone use the tzselect command |
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| 10:37.11 | jelly | !tzsetup |
| 10:37.15 | jelly | !tzconfig |
| 10:37.15 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
| 10:37.29 | jelly | meh! |
| 10:37.48 | jelly | dpkg: tzselect is <reply>see tzconfig |
| 10:37.49 | dpkg | okay, jelly |
| 10:38.16 | ChadStat | mount |
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| 10:38.41 | woden | jelly: So he would type tzselect at the root terminal? |
| 10:39.05 | jelly | woden: read what dpkg said above |
| 10:39.14 | ChadStat | sudo tzselect London |
| 10:39.15 | ChadStat | Like that. |
| 10:39.41 | woden | ChadStat: What would New Zealand be? |
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| 10:40.19 | jelly | "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" brings a nicer dialog menu. ;-) |
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| 10:40.38 | jelly | woden: you may also run just "tzselect" or "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" |
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| 10:41.11 | ChadStat | jelly++ |
| 10:41.11 | woden | Thanks |
| 10:41.25 | Kenny | hi all |
| 10:41.32 | ChadStat | ohai |
| 10:41.33 | Kenny | adb: im back with the problem :/ |
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| 10:42.08 | mischief | how do i figure out what driver X is using? |
| 10:42.12 | hark | tzselect won't work |
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| 10:43.01 | Kenny | when i start kde, the top bar dont work :| dont appear the button of close or minimize, see here http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6445/screenshot1f.png |
| 10:43.07 | jelly | " Note that tzselect will not actually change the timezone for you. Use 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' to achieve this. |
| 10:43.08 | jelly | " |
| 10:44.28 | hark | mischief: see the logfile |
| 10:45.02 | mischief | hark, it's a bit hard to read through :( |
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| 10:45.56 | mrtn1231 | I have a .txt file with list of programs(like this --> http://pastebin.com/d7146b84c(without line numbers)). Is it possible to use aptitude to install all of those programs from this txt file? |
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| 10:47.43 | g00se | mrtn1231: while read P;do aptitude install $P;done>file-of-packages.txt |
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| 10:51.02 | hark | mischief: well, lspci -v i guess then |
| 10:51.08 | PepperBob | erm.. what happened to package postgresql-plperl-8.2 - can't find it anywhere though have it installed? |
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| 10:53.45 | ChadStat | PepperBob: Try apt-cache search postgresql-plperl |
| 10:54.02 | mrtn1231 | g00se: thanks!! "while read P;do aptitude install $P -y;done<apps.txt" seems to work! |
| 10:54.18 | hark | gone, there's 8.3 now |
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| 10:55.59 | Gratz474 | what does a time_wait mean? |
| 10:57.00 | PepperBob | ChadStat: ok found it - the funny thing is: i pointed my source.list from etch to lenny and made a apt-get dist-upgrade -s with the result that it wants to remove that package |
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| 10:57.01 | hamza | hi , i installed Awesome WM 3.3 , and i have a little Q , should i need to logout/login to notice my configuration changes ?! |
| 10:57.04 | fireba11 | mrtn1231: that's way more complicated than neede but oh well :-) |
| 10:57.05 | g00se | mrtn1231: np |
| 10:57.41 | ChadStat | PepperBob: It wants to remove the old version, or the new version? |
| 10:57.45 | nsadmin | hamza: what does the manual say? |
| 10:58.04 | hamza | nothing about that |
| 10:58.19 | nsadmin | how did you make the changes to the config? |
| 10:58.23 | PepperBob | ChadStat: it wants to remove postgresql-plperl-8.2 and does not install any newer version of it |
| 10:58.26 | hamza | i did used Awesome 2 which was great |
| 10:58.28 | g00se | fireball: maybe aptitude install <apps.txt would work? |
| 10:58.34 | nsadmin | how did you make the changes to the config? |
| 10:58.36 | hamza | .config/awesome/rc.lua |
| 10:58.48 | ChadStat | Did you try.. apt-get install postgresql-plperl-8.3 |
| 10:58.49 | ChadStat | ? |
| 10:58.51 | hamza | simple change tags names , apps , and themes |
| 10:58.58 | fireba11 | g00se: what happened to dpkg --set-selections < /backup/packages ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade |
| 10:59.00 | nsadmin | using what? |
| 10:59.04 | PepperBob | ChadStat: i'm running postgresql-8.2 so not sure if this will work? |
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| 10:59.05 | hamza | gedit |
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| 10:59.17 | nsadmin | so, a text editor |
| 10:59.27 | nsadmin | what happens when you log out/in? |
| 10:59.35 | ChadStat | I'm not that much of a perl developer, But I would assume that its just a point release. |
| 10:59.36 | g00se | fireba11: Yes - never had to do that myself, so unfamiliar ;-) |
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| 10:59.49 | hamza | i see the changes , |
| 11:00.03 | nsadmin | and before you do so? |
| 11:00.03 | hamza | back to awesome 2 all i need is to restart awesome not logout/login |
| 11:00.13 | PepperBob | ChadStat: yeah the 8.3 package depends on the 8.3 server so... :/ |
| 11:00.16 | hamza | now in awesome 3.3 i need to logout |
| 11:00.17 | g00se | fireba11: (Although better to use aptitude) |
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| 11:00.33 | fireba11 | g00se: it's in my emergency notes .. i do a dpkg --get-selections > /backup/packages daily via cron on all my boxes and have it backed up with the rest of my data |
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| 11:00.40 | nsadmin | oh, so restarting awesom is not enough to get the changes? |
| 11:00.49 | ChadStat | I would assume your code should run fine under it, OTherwise you won't be getting any more updates from debian. |
| 11:00.58 | hamza | ya , thats what am saying |
| 11:01.13 | hamza | even changing the wallpaper now is kinda pain :( |
| 11:01.28 | nsadmin | so there is not a config tool |
| 11:01.46 | nsadmin | other than editing config file |
| 11:02.12 | hamza | do you use Awesome WM ?! |
| 11:02.13 | hamza | :) |
| 11:02.24 | g00se | fireba11: Yes i do similar |
| 11:02.34 | hamza | .config/awesome/rc.lua |
| 11:02.35 | hamza | :) |
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| 11:03.08 | fireba11 | g00se: had to use it not too long ago. had the box set up anew within 30 minutes ... |
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| 11:05.31 | sander_ | When I do: mount -o smbfs //192.168.0.7/large /disk/large I get: Password: \n mount error 13 = Permission denied \nRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs) |
| 11:06.17 | sander_ | This happend after I installed lenny from scratch |
| 11:07.07 | flower | what is a good tool to play with 'desktop from distance' |
| 11:07.15 | flower | I'm using kde, my brother gnome |
| 11:08.03 | sander_ | http://pastebin.ca/1490601 <-- my smb.conf looks like this? |
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| 11:09.36 | sander_ | flower, what do you mean with 'desktop from distance' ? |
| 11:09.56 | flower | sander_: to control his desktop from mine |
| 11:10.13 | sander_ | flower: try x11vnc |
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| 11:11.28 | Kenny | when i start kde, the top bar dont work :| dont appear the button of close or minimize, see here http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6445/screenshot1f.png |
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| 11:11.53 | mrtn1231 | g00se: this "while read P;do aptitude install $P -y;done<apps.txt" script works, but it stops at the first program if installs. I have many programs in this apps.txt file, that are already installed on the system. Should I put this "while read P;do aptitude install $P -y;done<apps.txt" into another cycle? |
| 11:11.55 | mischief | does anyone know what package has the gnome theme 'darklooks'? |
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| 11:14.37 | brabo | hi, i just got a quick q i couldn't find in the install manual: where can i find the list of packages supplied by the 'standard system' in the installer? |
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| 11:17.13 | dury | hey guys.. could anyone advice me please... it's curious my xfce4 it's now in spanish... but the keyboard it's still in english there isn't option in xcfe4 control-panel-keyboard to setup it in spanish |
| 11:18.26 | dury | I did "dpkg-reconfigure locales" but not success :( |
| 11:18.43 | Gratz474 | how can i chmod everything in a directory? |
| 11:18.46 | ChadStat | dury: http://sidux.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-14057-view-previous.html |
| 11:19.08 | Kenny | Gratz474: chmod numer * |
| 11:19.09 | Kenny | xD |
| 11:19.13 | Kenny | number+ |
| 11:19.15 | Kenny | * |
| 11:19.43 | Gratz474 | how do i do that then? |
| 11:21.46 | brabo | like 'chmod 777 ' |
| 11:21.51 | brabo | like 'chmod 777 *' |
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| 11:22.57 | [mu]keiserr | how can i transform my debian box into a gateway? |
| 11:23.27 | brabo | that's not hard [mu]keiserr |
| 11:23.45 | brabo | if you google on 'debian lenny router firewall' you will find alot excellent guides |
| 11:24.14 | brabo | if you get further questions i'm willing to help you out |
| 11:24.41 | brabo | i do it mysely sometimes, so i think i got the basics of that ^^ |
| 11:24.41 | [mu]keiserr | i seem to have a few confusion with whether to use ipchains or iptable |
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| 11:25.04 | OpenTokix | iptables |
| 11:25.12 | OpenTokix | [mu]keiserr: iptables |
| 11:25.26 | [mu]keiserr | okie thanks |
| 11:25.30 | OpenTokix | [mu]keiserr: ipchains is old from 2.4 and older |
| 11:25.37 | [mu]keiserr | okie thanks |
| 11:25.50 | [mu]keiserr | i don't need to recompile my kernel or anything ? |
| 11:25.54 | [mu]keiserr | just add a few rules right? |
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| 11:26.04 | OpenTokix | correct |
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| 11:26.09 | OpenTokix | if you use the debian stock-kernel? |
| 11:26.17 | brabo | no, afaik you need to bridge one of the nics |
| 11:26.37 | brabo | install bridge-utils and the you need to config /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:26.46 | OpenTokix | brabo: why? |
| 11:26.47 | brabo | then some iptables rules for forwarding etc |
| 11:26.50 | [mu]keiserr | cool thanks |
| 11:27.00 | OpenTokix | brabo: you dont need to bridge for a gateway |
| 11:27.08 | brabo | OpenTokix: um, i don't know, i read it like that, i did it and it works |
| 11:27.59 | bawok | Can't load modules compress: /home/webadmin/eggdrop/modules/compress.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory please help me how to fix it |
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| 11:29.20 | brabo | so OpenTokix if you are willing to go a little further on this..so i don't need the bridge-utils package? do i need to make the br0 bridge interface bethween eth0 and eth1 or is that also nod neccessarry? |
| 11:29.57 | OpenTokix | brabo: no |
| 11:30.00 | OpenTokix | you have eth0 and eth1 |
| 11:30.07 | OpenTokix | and lets say eth0 is your external interface |
| 11:30.09 | brabo | yes |
| 11:30.10 | OpenTokix | eth1 your internal one |
| 11:30.13 | brabo | that is the case |
| 11:30.19 | OpenTokix | you just NAT the traffic between thoose interfaces |
| 11:30.31 | brabo | just with iptables? |
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| 11:30.41 | OpenTokix | yeah |
| 11:30.45 | brabo | aha |
| 11:31.06 | brabo | i'm going to reinstall one in a wneek, i'm going to try teo let the bridge stuff out and see :) |
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| 11:31.31 | brabo | but since it always worked, i din't go search wether it was the perfect setup like that.. |
| 11:31.34 | OpenTokix | brabo: do it |
| 11:31.52 | brabo | are there disadvantages of the way it's configulred right now? |
| 11:32.02 | brabo | like in security matter or so? |
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| 11:32.29 | Kenny | when i start kde, the top bar dont work :| dont appear the button of close or minimize, see here http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6445/screenshot1f.png |
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| 11:34.02 | OpenTokix | brabo: dont you hafve like: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i br0 -p tcp --deport 80 -d 100.110.120.130 -j DNAT --to 10.0.0.10 |
| 11:34.09 | OpenTokix | brabo: where eth1 is 10.0.0.1 |
| 11:34.12 | [mu]keiserr | am trying to follow this tutorial http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/networking/homegateway.html , actually i have a box, BoxA which has two ethernet cards, 192.168.45.12 and 10.10.3.1 , then there's another box, boxB ip 10.10.3.3 which i want to be able to ping 192.168.45.15 (accessible from boxA), which is why i want boxA to turn into a gateway |
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| 11:34.59 | craigevil | Kenny: check the permissions on ~.Xauthority |
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| 11:35.38 | brabo | OpenTokix: shall i pastebin my local iptables script? |
| 11:35.52 | sander_ | When installing linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 .. shouldnt apt-get automaticly edit /boot/grub/menu.lst for me? |
| 11:35.57 | OpenTokix | brabo: sure |
| 11:36.02 | sander_ | Seems like it didnt do that |
| 11:36.09 | OpenTokix | brabo: I am by no means iptables expert |
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| 11:36.52 | zerwas | Can somebody tell me which debian kernel version supports FNEK? (ecryptfs filename encryption) |
| 11:36.58 | brabo | hehe, me neither ^^ |
| 11:37.06 | brabo | here it is: http://pastebin.com/f174370a4 |
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| 11:37.29 | brabo | it's a bit of a mess, i admit :p |
| 11:38.56 | Kenny | craigevil: how i check this ? |
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| 11:39.40 | Austin | !tell me how to check permissions |
| 11:40.11 | craigevil | Kenny: the file is in your home just open it with konq and right click it Properties I think is what your looking for, i dont run kde |
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| 11:40.27 | Austin | ok |
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| 11:41.35 | [mu]keiserr | btw, check this http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/networking/homegateway.html, at the part where it says i need to update this file /etc/network/interfaces, do i need to add all my interfaces available on that machine? |
| 11:41.47 | brabo | ow yeah, to be complete OpenTokix here is the interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/f61876ae6 |
| 11:41.55 | Austin | craigevil: what permissions must have ? |
| 11:42.01 | brabo | [mu]keiserr: `i do that yes |
| 11:42.01 | [mu]keiserr | and can i have auto eth1, auto eth2 auto eth3 etc.. etc..? |
| 11:42.21 | [mu]keiserr | okie then, one entry for each network devices then |
| 11:42.37 | OpenTokix | brabo: you dont need the bridge at all |
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| 11:43.21 | brabo | okay.. si then i just define eth1 in the interfaces file and be done with it? |
| 11:43.36 | OpenTokix | yes |
| 11:43.43 | brabo | interesting.. |
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| 11:43.53 | brabo | i wonder why it was like that in the guide i read :p |
| 11:44.00 | OpenTokix | brabo: bridging is only used if your are going to put other interfaces ontop - like if you are using virtitual machines |
| 11:44.06 | malgon | re |
| 11:44.12 | OpenTokix | brabo: I wonder that to, maybe its for nating to viritual machineS? |
| 11:44.20 | malgon | le wifi ne marche toujours pas :s |
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| 11:44.37 | [mu]keiserr | actually, i want machines on 10.10.3.x to get access to 192.168.230.x via this box [which happens to have two ethernet cards |
| 11:44.39 | brabo | well, who knows.. does the iptables script look a bit decent? |
| 11:45.26 | OpenTokix | brabo: yeah |
| 11:45.28 | OpenTokix | looks ok |
| 11:45.34 | bawok | Can't load modules compress: /home/webadmin/eggdrop/modules/compress.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory please help me how to fix it |
| 11:45.35 | PepperBob | ChadStat: oh, i think it got it: postgresql 8.2 used to be just in testing and got removed. it never made it to any backports nor stable... |
| 11:45.37 | brabo | sweet :) |
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| 11:46.26 | ChadStat | PepperBob: I would assume it became version 8.3 if it did not pass as 8.2 |
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| 11:46.58 | brabo | well, now that i am here, i got another question: i'm making a ssh chroot jail, but i have difficulties adding system modules to tho chrooted jail. i need to add perl to it for irssi but i don't have a clue how to |
| 11:47.03 | nummer91 | How can I remove a packet I just installed, but which failed to configure? (apt) |
| 11:47.20 | PepperBob | ChadStat: yup - but now i have no clean upgrade path. i think easiest would be upgrading the database first. |
| 11:47.22 | wizL | does there exist a command in console to bring up an "gui" to setup NIC ? |
| 11:47.29 | wizL | i remember there was one.. but i forgot |
| 11:47.38 | brabo | [mu]keiserr: seems you may want to take a look at my first pastebin.. it's my iptables script, it may be usefull to you |
| 11:47.49 | ChadStat | wizL, Why not just use /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:47.55 | nummer91 | apt-get said Errors were encountered while processing: timidity... |
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| 11:48.11 | brabo | here it is gain : http://pastebin.com/f174370a4 |
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| 11:48.15 | wizL | ChadStat i have some problems with recognizing nic... |
| 11:48.16 | [mu]keiserr | thanks :D |
| 11:48.19 | craigevil | nummer91: can you pastebin the error? |
| 11:48.44 | craigevil | nummer91: might try apt-get -f install |
| 11:49.15 | nummer91 | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/127657/ |
| 11:49.33 | nummer91 | Output of the "apt-get -f install" command. |
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| 11:51.16 | nummer91 | I can't remove it. |
| 11:51.21 | enouf | mischief: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.~.log |
| 11:51.34 | enouf | mischief: er .. grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:51.57 | craigevil | nummer91: edit or remove the timidity.postrm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 11:52.46 | mischief | enouf, we got it working now :p i found out from Xorg.log.0 that it's an ATI radeon 9200 |
| 11:52.46 | trond2 | Set up static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, but it changes to dynamic after a while. Any ideas? |
| 11:52.52 | enouf | wizL: wicd? |
| 11:52.52 | mischief | and we're using the ati driver, and it runs great! |
| 11:53.02 | mischief | and we're playing frets on fire >:) |
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| 11:53.04 | enouf | mischief: fglrx? |
| 11:53.06 | wizL | no, console only |
| 11:53.25 | enouf | you said it "to bring up an "gui"" |
| 11:53.40 | wizL | well it was meant the "graphic" thing in console |
| 11:53.41 | wizL | :D |
| 11:53.46 | enouf | ncurses? |
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| 11:53.56 | enouf | !ncurses |
| 11:53.56 | dpkg | well, ncurses is a free clone of curses, a library for the management of in- and output for character-cell based terminals and terminal emulators. fun. If you want to install ncurses, you most likely wants to: apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 11:54.02 | wizL | yes |
| 11:54.11 | g00se | trond2: static might only be advisory to the dhcp server, but i'm not sure |
| 11:54.27 | enouf | wizL: not in debian, AFAIK, unless you mean the installer |
| 11:54.39 | mischief | enouf, no, ati |
| 11:54.44 | wizL | ah damn ;> then it was probably in slack |
| 11:54.58 | mischief | enouf, cba working with fglrx right now, and ati works fine. we get about 750fps with glxgears |
| 11:55.06 | enouf | mischief: er.. radeon? oh crap, i guess a card that old would still use the older "ati" driver/? |
| 11:55.09 | mischief | and warcraft 3 runs very well under Wine |
| 11:55.13 | nummer91 | craigevil: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/127659/ |
| 11:55.14 | mischief | enouf, yes, "ati" |
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| 11:56.02 | trond2 | g00se: the same config works for my other 3 servers using the same router |
| 11:56.04 | enouf | mischief: it's just a wrapper |
| 11:56.06 | enouf | ati is an Xorg wrapper driver for ATI video cards. It autodetects whether your hardware has a Radeon, Rage 128, or Mach64 or earlier class of chipset, and loads the radeon(4), r128(4), or mach64 driver as appropri- |
| 11:56.19 | enouf | -ate |
| 11:56.26 | craigevil | nummer91: /etc/init.d/timidity stop does that do anything? |
| 11:56.38 | mischief | enouf, oh, yeah, it's using radeon. i saw it load it in the xorg log |
| 11:56.45 | enouf | bingo |
| 11:56.52 | enouf | man radeon ;-) |
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| 11:57.28 | nummer91 | /craigevil: /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh: line 269: return: Starting: numeric argument required |
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| 11:57.48 | enouf | yeah, the 9200 was about as high as you could go and get 3D using Xorg driver with older radeons |
| 11:58.03 | nummer91 | After a line "* Starting timidity" |
| 11:58.04 | enouf | maybe 9250, IIRC |
| 11:58.12 | g00se | trond2: I'm afraid i don't know enough dhcp to comment. Is it possible to put dhcp into debug mode? |
| 11:58.15 | henry-nicolas | Hello everybody. I would like to know if it is technically possible to have virtual interface over etherned bonded interfaces (like bond0.1 for example) with Debian, is it ? |
| 11:58.59 | craigevil | nummer91: wtf ok i am lost sorry |
| 11:59.13 | enouf | trond2: /etc/dhclient* config files? |
| 11:59.43 | brabo | okay: i have a chroot jail set up. only irssi gives 'NO WINDOWS: -!- Irssi: Invalid charset: CP1252' , i used the make_chroot_jail.sh script to add /usr/bin/perl because i found that a missing perl was supposedly the problem, but that didn't fix it. any ideas? |
| 11:59.46 | nummer91 | craigevil: thanks anyway |
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| 12:02.05 | Austin | craigevil: what permissions must have ? |
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| 12:02.11 | enouf | brabo: can you pastebin the .sh file? and look at schroot |
| 12:02.12 | Austin | .Xauthority |
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| 12:03.15 | enouf | could also ask in #irssi |
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| 12:03.46 | nummer91 | craigevil: some brasilian guys solved the problem. thank google translator :-) |
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| 12:04.16 | brabo | enouf: here you go : http://pastebin.com/f5222331b |
| 12:04.29 | enouf | ok |
| 12:04.34 | brabo | at 'schroot'? |
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| 12:04.40 | brabo | it is a tool? |
| 12:04.41 | enouf | !schroot |
| 12:04.42 | dpkg | i heard schroot is an easy way of setting up a chroot of testing or unstable within your installation of stable. See http://wiki.debian.org/Kde4schroot and http://linuxgazette.net/150/kapil.html |
| 12:04.44 | nummer91 | I simply had to delete /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh |
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| 12:05.32 | brabo | okay, i'll look at it.. if i could solve it with the make_chroot_jail.sh it'd be sweet though |
| 12:06.10 | craigevil | Austin: .Xauthority should have your user permissions, seems running sudo then logging out can sometimes change it to root, thats when you get the issues |
| 12:06.36 | Austin | oh ok |
| 12:07.34 | enouf | brabo: sure, just thought others (perl users) might have a look see - i can read shell scripts ok, but not advanced ones |
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| 12:09.38 | enouf | brabo: hrm, does the chroot'd jailed user require a special entry in /etc/shells? |
| 12:09.59 | enouf | s/special/shell/ |
| 12:10.37 | brabo | no, it is in /home/jail/etc/passwd |
| 12:10.51 | enouf | hrm .. |
| 12:10.51 | brabo | i'm making a ssh chroot jail |
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| 12:11.59 | brabo | and the jail is already in place, it's just the trouble of knowing how to add what :p |
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| 12:12.17 | enouf | brabo: /etc/shells lists all valid login shells - man 5 shells, but perhaps a /home/jail/etc/shells needs to be utilized |
| 12:12.43 | brabo | it has a valid login shell, that all works |
| 12:12.58 | brabo | and terminfo works too |
| 12:13.06 | trond2 | enouf: found some differences in the dhclient configs. looking in to it. thanks |
| 12:13.12 | brabo | i just need irssi to work and it's done :/ |
| 12:13.34 | enouf | brabo: but i'm proobably barking up the wrong tree - so i shall cease ;-) |
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| 12:13.49 | enouf | trond2: ok - let us know ;-) |
| 12:14.03 | brabo | thanks for your time anyway enouf ;) |
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| 12:14.28 | enouf | welcome |
| 12:14.55 | enouf | needs to read and mess with chroots more often - i really only used them for recovery |
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| 12:15.40 | enouf | unerstanding well-made jails for users is even more involved though ... there are so many possible security aspects to be considered |
| 12:16.58 | brabo | it is because of that i'm using a chroot jail |
| 12:17.17 | brabo | i'm busy making a shell server for public use |
| 12:17.45 | brabo | so i'm making a full chroot environment with just the tools i want the users to be able to access |
| 12:17.55 | brabo | hoping that works :p |
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| 12:20.04 | craigevil | anything having to do with the word "jail" is just scary :) |
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| 12:25.14 | \amethyst | ;} |
| 12:25.16 | \amethyst | doh |
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| 12:26.52 | bawok | :# ps -x Segmentation fault |
| 12:26.56 | bawok | why this? |
| 12:27.05 | Trinity | Salut |
| 12:27.55 | Trinity | I have a problem with mysql in Debian. |
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| 12:29.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | bawok: you broke it |
| 12:29.25 | Trinity | /etc/mysql/debian.cnf <= anybody could uploader the file please ? |
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| 12:30.15 | bawok | Kamping_Kaiser : how to fix the segmnentation fault ? |
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| 12:30.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | Trinity: since it contains the debian system user password i hope no one will |
| 12:30.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | bawok: what did you do to cause the segfaults |
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| 12:32.37 | Trinity | Kamping_Kaiser > i want just the defaut file |
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| 12:34.49 | ranix | Trinity: that file is automatically generated, you should not need it |
| 12:35.02 | ranix | Trinity: do you want help with your actual mysql problem? |
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| 12:35.13 | mrbob009 | i got a debian server standing here, uname -a gives |
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| 12:35.32 | mrbob009 | Linux XXXSASXXXX 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 12:35.55 | mrbob009 | i would like to upgrade the installed php4 apache2 module to php5... but i have no idea what distro-release it is |
| 12:36.08 | Trinity | I can't make a new install of mysql :/ |
| 12:36.18 | ranix | apt-get install mysql? |
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| 12:36.26 | enouf | brabo: have you considered vservers and even Xen (or other VM/VHost solutions)? |
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| 12:36.39 | Trinity | no, the bdd of mysql is too fat |
| 12:36.55 | mrbob009 | o, got it Linux version 2.6.18-6-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-23etch1) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 2008 |
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| 12:37.11 | enouf | brabo: xen for pure isolation, vservers for almost, but vserver shares RAM with each host |
| 12:37.13 | caraconan | Hi. I followed this http://pastebin.com/m4ce63fc4 but it fails. Someone can help me to enable pcntl functions on a apache2-php module on debian? Thanks |
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| 12:39.49 | Trinity | apt-get install mysql <= remove my existing db ? |
| 12:40.26 | mrbob009 | just the db or the whole db server/system? |
| 12:40.27 | Titan8990 | reinstall/uninstall doesn't delete your db files, but you should have lots of backups just in case |
| 12:40.49 | stew | Titan8990: there is no such package name. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 12:40.54 | stew | Trinity: ^^^ |
| 12:41.46 | Trinity | <Titan8990> reinstall/uninstall doesn't delete your db files, but you should have lots of backups just in case << sure ? |
| 12:42.14 | mrbob009 | where do i find the repos urls for etch? (got a old server here running on it)? |
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| 12:42.53 | Titan8990 | Trinity, yes, i don't even think --purge clears out your tables, but like i said backup |
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| 12:43.30 | mischief | why isn't libflash non-free in lenny non-free? why is it only in backports? :/ |
| 12:45.04 | \amethyst | mischief: err, do you mean flashplugin-nonfree? |
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| 12:45.38 | Trinity | Titan8990, Okay, wait .. |
| 12:46.00 | \amethyst | mischief: flashplugin-nonfree is in contrib rather than non-free because the package doesn't contain flash itself, but rather downloads it at install time |
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| 12:46.30 | mischief | \amethyst, it's not in my contrib. :/ |
| 12:46.39 | thnee | nvidia-settings only lists resolutions up to 1680x1050, but i know my monitor can have 1920x1280. how do i enable this? |
| 12:46.40 | \amethyst | mischief: it's not released with lenny because of how Adobe doesn't keep around older versions |
| 12:46.47 | mischief | i see |
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| 12:47.11 | Trinity | thnee > your graphic gard |
| 12:47.13 | Titan8990 | thnee, install correct drivers for your card, most configure it in xorg.conf <---should not be required |
| 12:47.14 | Trinity | card * |
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| 12:47.22 | \amethyst | mischief: because it needs to download the correct version of flash at install time, but the correct version might not be around later in Lenny's lifecycle |
| 12:47.28 | Trinity | Titan8990, rofl ^^ |
| 12:47.50 | thnee | Trinity, Titan8990: i have the drivers. however, i used to have a monitor before, that only supportde 1680, if that means anything |
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| 12:48.24 | Titan8990 | thnee, rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old and then try to startx (unless you are using proprietary drivers such as nvidia) |
| 12:48.27 | Trinity | thnee > check the .config in your nividia settings |
| 12:48.48 | thnee | Titan8990: there is nothing wrnog with my xorg.conf |
| 12:49.01 | thnee | Trinity: how? what .config? |
| 12:49.18 | Trinity | xorg.conf yes.. |
| 12:49.25 | Trinity | I'm french ^^ |
| 12:49.38 | thnee | Trinity: i can imagine |
| 12:49.40 | \amethyst | mischief: and Debian doesn't upgrade packages in a released distribution except under exceptional circumstances like a security hole or hardware support in a point release... so the decision was made that flash would be supported via backports and/or volatile |
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| 12:50.33 | mischief | right |
| 12:50.35 | mischief | i see |
| 12:50.38 | Trinity | Geeks understand them ^^ |
| 12:50.45 | Trinity | or not :/ |
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| 12:51.32 | thnee | okay i just restarted X, and it found the resolution automatically |
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| 12:51.56 | thnee | the new nvidia + display management is working quite good |
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| 12:52.07 | thnee | compared to some years ago |
| 12:52.07 | Trinity | =) |
| 12:52.11 | brabo | enouf: hardware too old :p |
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| 12:52.13 | thnee | when it was a pain to just install the drivers |
| 12:52.33 | Zvpun | I want to add a message to a bug report is it enought to just mail to 520507@bugs.debian.org |
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| 12:53.31 | Trinity | Thx all for your help, See ya ! |
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| 12:54.49 | mrbob009 | i got a debian etch server here which cannot connect to the inet |
| 12:55.04 | mrbob009 | while im using the right gatway addres >> route add default gw -ip of our gateway- |
| 12:55.21 | mrbob009 | can it be, due to ipv6 being enabled that this gives problems.....? |
| 12:56.15 | justin | mrbob009: why are you manually adding routes? |
| 12:56.28 | mrbob009 | justin, we're not using DHCP |
| 12:56.52 | justin | mrbob009: so you plan on manually adding the route everytime the server boots? |
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| 12:57.24 | mrbob009 | justin: i added it to /etc/network/interfaces but it doesnt route well |
| 12:57.30 | mrbob009 | ping does never get replied :/ |
| 12:57.32 | mrbob009 | resolved... |
| 12:57.36 | justin | what did you add? |
| 12:57.36 | mrbob009 | cant resolve |
| 12:57.55 | mrbob009 | gateway <ip of our gw> , under the right interface..... |
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| 13:01.22 | zu22 | how do i fix this error, when i run 'apt-get update' it says suddenly: W: GPG error: http://debian.mirrors.pair.com squeeze Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1246455239 |
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| 13:02.25 | brabo | enouf: i solved my prob with chroot ^^ |
| 13:03.07 | Wyzard | zu22: Sounds like your copy of the debian-archive-keyring package is out-of-date |
| 13:04.04 | zu22 | Wyzard: ah i will look into that, thx |
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| 13:12.31 | sfdsd | hello every1, anybody know how to do kde panel-menu hidden and not appearing this anyway? |
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| 13:15.08 | mrbob009 | can anypne help me for a sec with a network problem |
| 13:15.17 | sunru | go |
| 13:15.22 | mrbob009 | i got a server hanging in the network here, it staticly configured |
| 13:15.33 | sunru | right |
| 13:15.42 | mrbob009 | and i can ping it, ssh into it etc - but the servert itself cannot resolve dns |
| 13:16.26 | mrbob009 | ping google.com < doesnt work |
| 13:16.26 | leoventura | try with IP |
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| 13:16.35 | sunru | mrbob009: resolv.conf ? |
| 13:16.38 | mrbob009 | i have added the right 'gateway ipaddress'..... to it |
| 13:16.44 | leoventura | ping 74.125.65.99 |
| 13:16.52 | mrbob009 | thanks sunru, that must be it |
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| 13:17.08 | sunru | mrbob009: aah. |
| 13:17.26 | sunru | mrbob009: the dhcpd server? make it allocate the static ips. |
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| 13:17.37 | mrbob009 | yep, found the dns server |
| 13:17.53 | sunru | because if you change the dns setup. |
| 13:18.12 | sunru | all your static servers need to be made aware some how. |
| 13:18.16 | mrbob009 | THANKS a million sunru! :) |
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| 13:19.44 | mrbob009 | now all remaining, what i need is = repos urls for etch |
| 13:19.46 | mrbob009 | anyone? :) |
| 13:20.01 | sunru | etch? |
| 13:20.10 | sunru | nah man go unstable or go home. |
| 13:20.19 | mrbob009 | Linux version 2.6.18-6-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-23etch1) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 2008 |
| 13:20.27 | mrbob009 | is what is running on this server here...... |
| 13:20.38 | mrbob009 | its a old test-server |
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| 13:21.29 | sunru | mrbob009: where are you located? |
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| 13:21.54 | sunru | is kicking back and not aware of your timezone. |
| 13:22.04 | sunru | or your problem. |
| 13:22.13 | mrbob009 | ;D |
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| 13:22.53 | sunru | i can't handle both kde and gnome. |
| 13:23.02 | mrbob009 | i cant handle either of them |
| 13:23.03 | mrbob009 | ;D |
| 13:23.07 | sunru | but i must. |
| 13:23.14 | mrbob009 | so i bought a google g1 phone ;P |
| 13:23.20 | sunru | cool. |
| 13:23.27 | drwn | I need create an account for webmaster with some privileges ? |
| 13:23.29 | mrbob009 | its cool yah : ) |
| 13:23.43 | drwn | someone have a link about this ? |
| 13:23.52 | xand | drwn: eh? |
| 13:24.13 | sunru | mrbob009: I haven't got a mob. |
| 13:24.16 | sunru | :) |
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| 13:24.29 | drwn | I need create one account with restrictions for the webmaster |
| 13:24.29 | sunru | I'm full time comps. |
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| 13:24.58 | sunru | people are dumb with mobs. |
| 13:24.59 | drwn | is mean just make changes over www directory |
| 13:25.01 | sunru | hehe :) |
| 13:25.19 | cantido | sunru: people are dumb with "comps" too |
| 13:25.19 | sunru | liek walk infront of buses n stuff :) |
| 13:25.43 | sunru | yeh and i like to be really dumb and one thing :) |
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| 13:26.40 | mrbob009 | are there any 'etch' repos still online? |
| 13:26.52 | sunru | mrbob009: lenny? |
| 13:27.00 | cantido | mobiles are basically ARM machines with a chipset for the voice stuff anyhow |
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| 13:27.12 | sunru | has lenny on all desktops he manages. |
| 13:27.28 | sunru | cept a few kde. |
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| 13:28.45 | mrbob009 | sunru, i cant upgrade it |
| 13:29.01 | sunru | run unstable then ffs. |
| 13:29.07 | sunru | ^^ |
| 13:29.07 | mrbob009 | this test-server is actually a mirror of a server which hosts services for our business |
| 13:29.18 | sunru | oh |
| 13:29.26 | mrbob009 | you see :) |
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| 13:29.47 | cantido | mrbob009: one machine hosts your business? |
| 13:30.33 | mrbob009 | cantido: no.. > where you wanna go to? |
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| 13:30.37 | mrbob009 | (lame ass discussion?) |
| 13:31.00 | cantido | more worried ;) |
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| 13:31.03 | sunru | i'm runny a "snapshot of sid" here. |
| 13:31.06 | sunru | running |
| 13:31.13 | cantido | sunru: so testing then? |
| 13:31.14 | sunru | sory spelying. |
| 13:31.53 | sunru | cantido: dunno I burned a snapshot/daily build of the installer and went from there. |
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| 13:32.15 | sunru | forgot the date..i could probably get it from a mtime of some file if you wan.t |
| 13:32.37 | cantido | sunru: if you're sources are sid and you dist upgrade you'll get the lastest stuff... unless you install everything from a snapshot disk |
| 13:32.56 | sunru | but i had to because i got a new comp with a new on board intel gfx etc. |
| 13:33.09 | mrbob009 | ffs :(... is there a list / or page where i can get repos urls? |
| 13:33.10 | mrbob009 | !repos |
| 13:33.11 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 13:33.47 | sunru | cantido: yeh but I'm not going to be doing any major upgrades for a while. |
| 13:33.53 | mrbob009 | !mirrors |
| 13:33.53 | dpkg | i heard debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>. |
| 13:34.36 | sunru | this works well so, i got my dvb card working out of the box too. |
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| 13:36.04 | cantido | I don't upgrade my stuff very often on sid machines, but I track stuff like KDE4 which is broken all over the place |
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| 13:40.49 | bawok | hello i need help how open socket for eggdrop? |
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| 13:42.29 | jelly | !ask |
| 13:42.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:43.04 | cantido | bawok: what do you mean by "open socket".. do you mean a port? |
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| 13:45.34 | fireba11 | cantido: socket 10 port |
| 13:45.40 | fireba11 | socket != port even |
| 13:46.12 | cantido | fireba11: yes, but you open "sockets" in the actual code, it's not usually a configuration option |
| 13:46.23 | reZo | what port does DNS use? 53 right? |
| 13:46.39 | cantido | reZo: yes, UDP mostly, TCP sometimes |
| 13:46.44 | alexandroos | hello, i want to play mp3's with audacious. Despite I've selected audacious as the default player for them when I'm in gnome-search-tool and click a mp3 file this is played by totem. how do i get audacious to play mp3's? |
| 13:46.47 | reZo | sweet |
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| 13:54.49 | reZo | could anyone help dignose a problem, my dns server is working for lan, but not wan, i'm port forwarding port 53, and have dmz turned on pointing to my dns server |
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| 13:57.30 | flower | what's a good protocol to chat with instead of msn? |
| 13:57.38 | ranix | oscar |
| 13:57.46 | ranix | irc |
| 13:57.47 | llutz | flower: xmpp/jabber |
| 13:58.05 | flower | why? |
| 13:58.21 | llutz | flower: it's free |
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| 13:58.41 | flower | llutz: ok, and privacy? |
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| 13:59.16 | ranix | jabber supports encryption via an extension |
| 13:59.30 | g00se | (as opposed to msn) |
| 13:59.32 | ranix | PKI iirc |
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| 14:00.17 | alexandroos | hello, i want to play mp3's with audacious. Despite I've selected audacious as the default player for them when I'm in gnome-search-tool and click a mp3 file this is played by totem. how do i get audacious to play mp3's? |
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| 14:01.13 | poisonbit | where does d-i store the downloaded preseed file, during the installation, if preseed/url=httpblabla is used? |
| 14:01.39 | poisonbit | alexandroos, choose right click in a .mp3 -> properties -> Open with -> Audacious |
| 14:01.59 | alexandroos | poisonbit, I already did That |
| 14:02.08 | alexandroos | no luck |
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| 14:03.03 | sfdsd | evioen use kde? how I can restrict "run command" into context-menu? |
| 14:03.20 | g00se | poisonbit: what would an example url be? |
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| 14:04.03 | poisonbit | preseed/url=http://192.168.0.50/lenny.cfg |
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| 14:04.50 | g00se | poisonbit: That one would have to be in the webroot of a web server |
| 14:05.16 | poisonbit | g00se, no no |
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| 14:05.27 | poisonbit | i say where is stored in the debian-installer filesystem |
| 14:05.46 | poisonbit | ctrl + alt + f2 during the automated installation |
| 14:06.44 | poisonbit | ok, i see the values in /var/lib/preseed/log |
| 14:06.57 | poisonbit | but this seem the data parses, because is without comments |
| 14:07.03 | poisonbit | parsed |
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| 14:12.18 | jmoncayo | anyone here installed wifidog? is there anyway to insert and admin by hand in the postgresql database? |
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| 14:15.39 | g00se | poisonbit: That url would otherwise be meaningless normally |
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| 14:25.16 | tdn | I have just installed Debian Lenny on a fit-PC. Now the sound does not work correctly. Sound is only coming from one speaker. I had Ubuntu (7.10) installed before, and the sound worked fine. Stereo through both speakers. I have checked cables and speakers. How do I make the sound work? |
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| 14:29.48 | antixogh | is there a gui tool to configure xorg? |
| 14:30.20 | JPT | err.... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 14:30.39 | JPT | i don't think there is a gui tool as it would not work if xorg would not work |
| 14:30.40 | antixogh | i mean.. ok never mind |
| 14:30.50 | JPT | ;) |
| 14:31.04 | antixogh | well x is working |
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| 14:31.47 | antixogh | but i just installed the fglrx driver package and it didn't load the driver so i'm still using vesa |
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| 14:32.49 | JPT | mhh |
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| 14:33.18 | antixogh | oh "aticonfig --initial" should do the trick |
| 14:33.26 | JPT | it might :) |
| 14:33.30 | antixogh | well hopefully |
| 14:33.33 | JPT | you could also restart your x-server |
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| 14:34.04 | antixogh | i did that already |
| 14:34.19 | antixogh | then rebooted and checked xorg.conf |
| 14:34.25 | antixogh | but i'll try this |
| 14:38.12 | ethanol | I'm looking for a simple network tool on etch that shows me the up/down usage on eth devices per ip |
| 14:38.19 | ethanol | anyone got any suggestions? |
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| 14:39.44 | pingouin | on a fresh install of lenny 64, an startx output : X : user not authorised to use X , aborting , any idea ? |
| 14:40.03 | stew | pingouin: are you running startx in an ssh terinal or something? |
| 14:40.10 | pingouin | stew: yes |
| 14:40.11 | stew | pingouin: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 14:40.19 | stew | pingouin: you need to switch it from 'console' to 'all' |
| 14:41.50 | antixogh | ok x didn't crash so i assume it worked |
| 14:42.00 | pingouin | stew: thanks |
| 14:42.12 | antixogh | how can i check that it is using the correct driver |
| 14:42.15 | antixogh | ? |
| 14:42.29 | stew | antixogh: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you which driver you are using |
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| 14:42.40 | antixogh | thank you |
| 14:42.41 | pingouin | stew: perfect ;) thank you very much |
| 14:42.52 | stew | pingouin: you're welcome :) |
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| 14:43.59 | pingouin | stew: where is the file dpkg-reconfigure x11-common edit ? to read it ? |
| 14:44.10 | stew | pingouin: /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 14:44.18 | pingouin | thank you again ;) |
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| 14:44.25 | stew | you are still welcome :) |
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| 14:45.24 | antixogh | ok it loaded |
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| 14:46.38 | alsd | ethanol: iptraf or iptop |
| 14:46.51 | ethanol | yea just found iptraf |
| 14:46.53 | ethanol | pretty nice |
| 14:47.03 | alsd | ethanol: iftop* even |
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| 14:48.11 | SerajewelKS | wow, go aptitude... |
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| 14:48.45 | SerajewelKS | # aptitude build-dep xsp ... 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. ... dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: ... |
| 14:48.48 | SerajewelKS | boggles |
| 14:49.38 | SerajewelKS | anyone want to take a shot at explaning why aptitude isn't installing some build-deps? |
| 14:50.04 | SerajewelKS | interestingly, apt-get has no problem installing them |
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| 14:51.08 | poisonbit | i'm trying to feet in COLUMNS=80 the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:51.14 | poisonbit | if i put one line foreach section (main, contrib, non-free)... |
| 14:51.19 | poisonbit | will apt-get/aptitude update run more slow? |
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| 14:56.39 | poisonbit | mmm it seems to works equal, with one section = one line, and now i can see it ok in 80 columns |
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| 14:58.41 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 15:02.47 | odla | hi i am trying to install nvidia on squeeze and i am following this ... http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ... and it tells me to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf except that I don't have a xorg.conf. What could i do to load "glx" and make sure X uses "nvidia"? |
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| 15:03.17 | odla | i guess my xorg.conf is there it's just empty |
| 15:03.26 | poisonbit | odla, as root, with xorg stoped, from a tty: Xorg -configure |
| 15:03.42 | poisonbit | then cp /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg |
| 15:03.49 | poisonbit | and then edit |
| 15:03.55 | odla | to get to a tty is it init3? |
| 15:04.03 | poisonbit | ctrl + alt + f1 |
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| 15:04.21 | odla | i see and just stop X |
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| 15:04.50 | poisonbit | if you use gdm, xdm, kdm, etc: /etc/init.d/your_dm stop |
| 15:05.26 | odla | yup i am golden ... thanks for the Xorg -configure bit |
| 15:06.24 | poisonbit | it will detect your hardware and generate a clean config, you will have to configure keyboard lang, the device driver nvidia, etc |
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| 15:06.51 | CrystalA | Good morning |
| 15:07.05 | poisonbit | hello CrystalA |
| 15:07.19 | CrystalA | Does anyone have a second to help with a shell script? |
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| 15:07.59 | poisonbit | paste the code in pastebin.de or something like and tell us your problem |
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| 15:08.59 | CrystalA | http://paste.linuxassist.net/214938 This script sorts my mp3's for me on my samba server. The problem I have is that when it puts spaces in the artist and album names my windows box can't figure out what it is. I need to replace the spaces with "_"s |
| 15:09.41 | CrystalA | Also: I borrowed most of the script from the internet and tweaked it till it worked. <<Is fairly new to shell scripts |
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| 15:11.09 | Monkey_b | is it possible to install an rpm file on debian? i can't seem to find the .deb version of this app |
| 15:11.14 | alsd | is there a dedicated channel for questions reguarding live-helper? |
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| 15:11.35 | poisonbit | alsd, #debian-live if not is in freenode is in debian irc servers |
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| 15:11.52 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
| 15:11.52 | alsd | poisonbit: not on freenode, just tried |
| 15:12.27 | poisonbit | alsd, it's in oftc |
| 15:12.37 | poisonbit | 46 people in the chanel now |
| 15:13.03 | poisonbit | Monkey_b, you can try the 'alien' package |
| 15:13.05 | justin | CrystalA: mkdir -p "/home/data/share/Audio/$GENRE/$ARTIST/$ALBUM/$TITLE" |
| 15:13.40 | Monkey_b | thanks poisonbit |
| 15:13.47 | justin | CrystalA: better yet, d="/home/data/share/Audio/$GENRE/$ARTIST/$ALBUM/$TITLE/" |
| 15:13.57 | justin | CrystalA: mkdir "$d" mv "$file" "$d" |
| 15:14.07 | project2501a | hey guys, i managed to boot to current-live from usb. now how do i install current-live to the hd? |
| 15:14.17 | project2501a | (pc has no cd drive) |
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| 15:14.38 | CrystalA | justin, will that remove the spaces from my variables? |
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| 15:15.11 | justin | CrystalA: ah well, that was slightly wrong anyway.. but it will fix the problem with you deleting the file if the isntall fails |
| 15:15.21 | poisonbit | alsd, also you can do: awk '/greped thing/{fooo}' instead of | grep foo | awk.... not related to your problem |
| 15:15.32 | project2501a | failing that, can i have the url for the "installing from usb" guide? |
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| 15:18.35 | unomi | hmm |
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| 15:18.55 | unomi | It looks like I am all of a sudden acting as a proxy for bittorrent downloaders? |
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| 15:19.39 | CrystalA | justin Could I pipe the first half of that through sed? |
| 15:19.54 | justin | CrystalA: why do you think that windows can't handle spaces in filenames? |
| 15:20.15 | CrystalA | justin, windows handles spaces fine, when they're in a windows directory tree |
| 15:20.34 | CrystalA | for some reason I can't get it to recognize the spaces on my samba share |
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| 15:20.40 | unomi | any advice on how I can stop this torrent of traffic bouncing thru my server? |
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| 15:22.12 | Monkey_b | i have a two part question... in trying to 'configure' a source code package, im being told that 'no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH'... my first question would be how do i edit path.. but before editing path, how can i find out if i have a C compiler installed? |
| 15:22.13 | poisonbit | echo "foo1 foo2 foo3" | tr ' ' '_' |
| 15:22.41 | justin | CrystalA: why do you say that? |
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| 15:22.57 | justin | CrystalA: a space is just another character in a filename... |
| 15:23.04 | poisonbit | Monkey_b, gcc --version |
| 15:23.04 | CrystalA | because when I browse the share folder anything with spaces in it just becomes garbage |
| 15:23.11 | CrystalA | well if its a directory |
| 15:23.13 | justin | CrystalA: what kind of garbage? |
| 15:23.22 | Monkey_b | poisonbit: doh, i have no gcc, let me try installing it :o |
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| 15:23.25 | poisonbit | Monkey_b, aptitude install build-essential will help your compilation sesion |
| 15:23.33 | CrystalA | well Dry Kill Logic became DRV8S~ |
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| 15:23.57 | CrystalA | The Darker Side of Nonsense became THQROS~ |
| 15:24.12 | CrystalA | as soon as I put underscores in the directory names, they came across fine |
| 15:24.17 | antixogh | is flashpluggin-nonfree only available in testing and sid? |
| 15:24.38 | Monkey_b | poisonbit: after installing gcc i was still having problems, but your 'build-essentials' made everything work, thank you :] |
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| 15:24.44 | clusty | hey |
| 15:24.44 | poisonbit | antixogh, for lenny i use to install the flashplayer-mozilla from www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 15:24.47 | Monkey_b | poisonbit: is that basically all the stuff that one needs to successfully compile from source/ |
| 15:25.05 | poisonbit | the basic, yes |
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| 15:25.09 | marcel` | if i want to setup a software raid 1 during installation of debian (lenny). do i need to set up the partitions manually? |
| 15:25.21 | poisonbit | Monkey_b, then each program may depend son some -dev packages to compile |
| 15:25.36 | antixogh | where do i change the default browser setting? while i'm thinking about? |
| 15:25.46 | clusty | i wanted to ask a few more questions about RAID: I cannot see the difference between a RAID 10 and full RAID 1 perfromance/redundacy/space |
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| 15:25.58 | Monkey_b | poisonbit: thanks, i was able to build and install my program, it works :] |
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| 15:26.17 | Monkey_b | generated a ton of warnings/errors during make install... but it appears to work regardless |
| 15:26.21 | poisonbit | a simple program with no external library depends :] |
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| 15:27.03 | justin | CrystalA: are you making directories that END in a space? |
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| 15:27.27 | justin | CrystalA: https://project.openfiler.com/tracker/ticket/700 |
| 15:27.45 | unomi | Invalid URI in request \x13BitTorrent protocolex is all over my apache2 log file |
| 15:27.52 | CrystalA | justin I very well may be...let me check |
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| 15:28.17 | justin | unomi: how are you making the link from "Invalid URI in request" to "bouncing through my server" ? |
| 15:28.21 | varlon | hi, on my laptop with debian lenny/sid I lost DRI acceleration with intel 945GM. I know, that I mast sent report, but what kind of packege need report? |
| 15:28.33 | Illusion | Hello Folks, I have a question about PXEBOOT/tftpboot in Ubuntu 64 8.10 server edition. Is it possible to boot up Windows CD's (unattended). I can boot Linux images (Knoppix Live/Ubuntu Live/Gparted without any problems but Windows kernels don't like me. Anybody has a an idea to resolve such issue's. I know it's a lot easier to use a Windows server with RIS to remote install client machines. |
| 15:28.59 | marcel` | if i want to setup a software raid 1 during installation of debian (lenny). do i need to set up the partitions manually? |
| 15:28.59 | unomi | justin, I could not imagine why else they would be doing it |
| 15:29.40 | justin | unomi: you have a dynamic IP that changes a lot? |
| 15:29.57 | unomi | yes |
| 15:30.02 | justin | unomi: there you go |
| 15:30.14 | unomi | someone is sharing thru port 80? |
| 15:30.19 | varlon | nobody know? |
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| 15:30.34 | justin | unomi: the bittorrent tracker protocol is HTTP |
| 15:30.56 | justin | unomi: also, lots of people run bittorrent on port 80 to get around firewalls |
| 15:31.08 | justin | unomi: whoever had your ip last must have been running a bittorrent client on port 80 |
| 15:31.12 | unomi | fair enough, thanks |
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| 15:34.29 | CrystalA | Justin yes it is. |
| 15:34.43 | justin | CrystalA: so that is what you need to fix, not the spaces in general |
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| 15:36.49 | junk | mm i have a problem :S --> I set up proftpd and i wanted to ad a user that has acces to /var/www only --> i set up a group and i set up a user (with a pw) but i still can't login to the ftp ( i reloaded + restarted the service) what am i missing? |
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| 15:37.05 | CrystalA | slaps her forehead! |
| 15:37.07 | justin | junk: try reading the proftpd logs |
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| 15:37.16 | junk | where do i find those? :S |
| 15:37.32 | junk | <-- linux noob XD only installed debian yesterday :P |
| 15:37.34 | CrystalA | justin, I found the error. |
| 15:37.38 | justin | junk: /var/log |
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| 15:37.59 | justin | junk: either a separate proftpd one or it is part of the usual syslog / daemon / debug / auth logs |
| 15:38.08 | CrystalA | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.19 | CrystalA | I should have noticed that last night. =/ |
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| 15:38.34 | junk | justin: it's a separate dir ^^ |
| 15:39.00 | justin | CrystalA: oh heh, i totally ignored those parts of the script |
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| 15:39.23 | junk | justin: it says that i entered an incorrect pw |
| 15:39.27 | justin | CrystalA: it sounds like you just want '| cut -d ":" -f 2-' |
| 15:39.49 | justin | echo Song Title:blah blah blah|cut -d ':' -f 2- |
| 15:40.00 | justin | junk: well then, the password is wrong :) |
| 15:40.10 | junk | justin: how can i edit that? |
| 15:40.21 | junk | justin: or do i need to delete the user and readd it? |
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| 15:40.22 | justin | junk: try resetting the password |
| 15:40.29 | CrystalA | well that kinda works now. but my directories are now /drykilllogic/albumnamewithnospaces/tracknamewithnospaces.mp3 |
| 15:40.48 | PyroPeter | i just installed fedora and upgraded to grub 2. now my grub menu has debian-with-kernel-2.6.29 entries with wrong root= argument. one solution would be to disable automatic config generation, an other would be to get debian generating working configs. which is easier? |
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| 15:42.59 | PyroPeter | i found out debian uses /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub for generating configs. grub.d/ looks like something i could edit manually, if i would understand the logic behind the files in there. the /etc/grub.d/README does't help me, too. |
| 15:43.19 | junk | justin: i did: passwd [user] and it prompted me.. i changed it... but it still won't let me login :S |
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| 15:48.41 | swemark | Evening chaps, Any tips or ideas as to being able to install stable imagemagick without the need for X11 being installed with it? |
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| 15:49.44 | CrystalA | sorry my computer froze... |
| 15:50.21 | wea0 | I'm looking for a simple way to get Japanese text input in Squeeze/KDE. |
| 15:50.33 | vi390 | hi, Iam missing udevtrigger (also udevadm trigger) and cant find such thing in apt... What can I use to trigger udev on debian ? |
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| 15:51.36 | swemark | wea0: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:51.38 | justin | vi390: udevadm comes with udev |
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| 15:53.22 | vi390 | justin: but udevadm seems not to be on the system |
| 15:53.30 | vi390 | and udev is installed |
| 15:54.10 | justin | vi390: ls -l /sbin/udevadm ? |
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| 15:54.48 | vi390 | justin: hmm, ok there is, but why not in the system path ... ? |
| 15:54.53 | vi390 | thx |
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| 15:55.10 | justin | vi390: because /sbin/ doesn't get added to users paths? |
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| 15:55.49 | vi390 | justin: no, I mean why it is in sbin then, I mean its an important tool ... |
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| 15:55.59 | justin | vi390: really? how important is it? |
| 15:56.14 | justin | !+sbin |
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| 15:56.33 | justin | stupid bots :) |
| 15:57.38 | vi390 | yes , shure @ adding sbin to path... hmm , well its an admintool something ... hmm should be more aware maybe that in sbin is some stuff as well :) |
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| 15:59.18 | \amethyst | because usually you'd run e.g. udevadm trigger as root |
| 16:00.01 | vi390 | \amethyst: you mean everything which is ran usually by root is in /sbin ? |
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| 16:00.11 | \amethyst | vi390: for the most part, yes |
| 16:00.18 | SA_10 | hello all |
| 16:00.25 | vi390 | \amethyst: ok, didnt know that, good to know , thx |
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| 16:00.35 | \amethyst | vi390: rather, things which aren't intended to be run by non-root |
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| 16:00.52 | yurikoles | i lol'd http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=518300 |
| 16:00.53 | \amethyst | vi390: e.g. 'mount' is usually run by root, but often by non-root, so it's in /bin |
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| 16:01.06 | yurikoles | !bug 518300 |
| 16:01.30 | SA_10 | im trying to install devian on a virtual machine but i think i cant because of kernel, does anyone knows witch one and how i should use it? |
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| 16:01.44 | vi390 | \amethyst: ok, adding this to my "knowing about" stack :) thank you |
| 16:02.08 | \amethyst | !fhs |
| 16:02.08 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
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| 16:02.39 | \amethyst | vi390: you might want to check out the FHS, which explains what all the directories are for. See the link dpkg pasted above |
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| 16:03.03 | vi390 | \amethyst: oh, ok thanks again, this is also nice to know |
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| 16:03.53 | spunky | is there an nvidia one liner for lenny ? |
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| 16:04.12 | ranix | nah |
| 16:04.16 | ranix | you want nvidia m-a |
| 16:04.22 | spunky | ok |
| 16:04.44 | spunky | the card required legacy drivers in etch btw |
| 16:04.58 | ranix | I think they fixed the problem with the nvidia gl libraries |
| 16:05.09 | ranix | I'm still using the backported sid module |
| 16:05.11 | spunky | so there's one package now. |
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| 16:05.37 | _paladin_ | there is .Xdefaults problem for urxvt. URxvt.font: 9x15 doesn't work, but urxvt -fn 9x15 does. |
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| 16:06.49 | _paladin_ | also urxvt -pe tabbed tells http://pastebin.com/m4a68c067 |
| 16:07.00 | junk | does anyone know how to check the chown of a file (so i can see who it belongs to etc)? |
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| 16:07.02 | _paladin_ | any idea? |
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| 16:08.34 | \amethyst | _paladin_: hm, urxvt -pe tabbed works here |
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| 16:08.52 | swemark | junk: ls -l? |
| 16:08.55 | \amethyst | !faq rename |
| 16:08.55 | dpkg | rename: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:08.57 | \amethyst | doh |
| 16:09.10 | junk | ty ^^ |
| 16:09.14 | swemark | np :) |
| 16:10.13 | _paladin_ | \amethyst, may be I need some additional components? |
| 16:10.20 | \amethyst | _paladin_: your urxvt came from the debian package? |
| 16:10.31 | \amethyst | _paladin_: rxvt-unicode ? |
| 16:11.06 | _paladin_ | yeah, debian lenny |
| 16:11.31 | \amethyst | _paladin_: hm, do you maybe have rxvt-unicode-lite installed? |
| 16:11.49 | \amethyst | _paladin_: I have rxvt-unicode-ml installed and it works here; I don't know about the plain rxvt-unicode package |
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| 16:12.46 | _paladin_ | oh, you're right, thanks |
| 16:13.03 | _paladin_ | it's just rxvt-unicode lite |
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| 16:14.54 | sparse | Hi, I have nice problems with kernel that I am unable to identify, could anyone help? http://pastebin.com/f354e7245 |
| 16:15.00 | _paladin_ | \amethyst, may be you know something about font? somehow .Xdefaults doesn't work =_= |
| 16:15.13 | \amethyst | _paladin_: that works for me too |
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| 16:15.38 | \amethyst | _paladin_: I notice you said you're using lenny, but your rxvt-unicode version is 9.06. Lenny has 9.05 |
| 16:15.41 | sparse | This repeats each few minutes |
| 16:15.49 | _paladin_ | \amethyst, can you show me the line? |
| 16:15.54 | fxiny | _paladin_: urxvt-unicode works -> URxvt*font:-xos4-terminus-bold-*-*-*-*-200-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15 |
| 16:16.06 | \amethyst | _paladin_: exactly as you said: URxvt.font: 9x15 |
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| 16:16.18 | _paladin_ | \amethyst, i just reinstalled it. now it' 9.05 |
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| 16:20.53 | Stathol | crosses his fingers and updates his server |
| 16:21.15 | ajavid | fxiny, hi |
| 16:21.18 | Stathol | Here's hoping that these kernel updates include updated e1000e module |
| 16:21.24 | fxiny | ajavid: hi |
| 16:21.38 | ajavid | $>vmware -v |
| 16:21.38 | ajavid | VMware Workstation 6.5.2 build-156735 |
| 16:21.50 | ajavid | fxiny, now whos da man! |
| 16:21.59 | ajavid | I da man, who da man? I da man. |
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| 16:22.19 | epifanio | hi all |
| 16:22.20 | ajavid | fxiny, .30 patch had extra hunk # 9 |
| 16:22.33 | fxiny | ajavid: workstation ? |
| 16:22.34 | ajavid | fxiny, removed it and patch applied and built it after just fine |
| 16:22.40 | ajavid | fxiny, yeah |
| 16:22.43 | Illusion | Hi, I have a question about PXEBOOT/tftpboot in Ubuntu 64 8.10 server edition. Is it possible to boot up Windows CD's (unattended). I can boot Linux images (Knoppix Live/Ubuntu Live/Gparted) without any problems but Windows kernels don't like me. Anybody has a an idea to resolve such issue's. I know it's a lot easier to use a Windows server with RIS to remote install client machines. |
| 16:22.56 | epifanio | is there anyone that used remastersys to make a live cd as backup of its system ? |
| 16:23.10 | ajavid | Illusion, you should ask in #ubuntu not in #debian |
| 16:23.35 | zatamine | Hello !! |
| 16:23.36 | fxiny | ajavid: why workstation and not server ? |
| 16:23.38 | ajavid | Illusion, go to McDonalds and ask for the Tripple Whopper. |
| 16:23.45 | Illusion | lol |
| 16:23.56 | Illusion | that burgerking |
| 16:24.02 | km | hi, i running oracle10g xe on debian. i the default listener is set to localhost:1521, how/where do change listener to some other ipaddress? |
| 16:24.18 | ajavid | Illusion, just like that, this is #debian not #ubuntu |
| 16:24.53 | Illusion | ok, i'll get your point, allthough it's both the same system and setting imo. |
| 16:24.57 | ajavid | no |
| 16:24.59 | ajavid | they are not |
| 16:25.04 | zatamine | can i reset my debian insatallation ??? |
| 16:25.04 | ajavid | !based on debian |
| 16:25.05 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. |
| 16:25.12 | ajavid | !ubuntu |
| 16:25.12 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 16:25.20 | ajavid | same? |
| 16:25.22 | fxiny | ajavid: go go go :) |
| 16:25.24 | ajavid | that sucks |
| 16:25.34 | Illusion | ok thanx ajavid |
| 16:25.35 | ajavid | zatamine, how do you mean? |
| 16:26.19 | fxiny | ajavid: so ? why workstation and not server ? |
| 16:26.26 | ajavid | fxiny, I sent you msg |
| 16:26.30 | ajavid | fxiny, look at msg |
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| 16:26.38 | ajavid | please |
| 16:26.57 | zatamine | i like re-install my debian |
| 16:27.00 | ajavid | fxiny, why should I need the server edition |
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| 16:27.18 | ajavid | zatamine, no it is not possible to go back to a brand spanking base install without actually installing over again |
| 16:27.35 | ajavid | zatamine, it maybe possible, but its too much work, too tedius, and waste of time |
| 16:27.43 | fxiny | ajavid: i see no msg , but is ok |
| 16:27.44 | ajavid | zatamine, why do you want to reset it? |
| 16:28.21 | fxiny | ajavid: thought you could not build the server but the workstation |
| 16:28.21 | zatamine | ajavid: i have comet some mistake |
| 16:28.21 | ajavid | fxiny, why should I need the server edition |
| 16:28.38 | ajavid | fxiny, oh no i was unale to build ws |
| 16:28.49 | ajavid | zatamine, that sucks. what mistake did you made? |
| 16:29.09 | ajavid | lets see what bad enough you tihnk you did that you have to reinstall |
| 16:29.18 | ajavid | probably isn't even that bad of a problem |
| 16:29.48 | zatamine | all directory in my desktop was locked |
| 16:30.14 | ajavid | be more specific |
| 16:30.22 | ajavid | that doesn't tell me anything |
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| 16:30.32 | ajavid | !ask |
| 16:30.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:30.42 | ajavid | use this format for example to ask a solid question |
| 16:30.49 | seria-mau | what do i need to get polkit integration into systemsettings in 4.3? |
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| 16:30.56 | fxiny | ajavid: i'm not using vmwarez that much , server version 2 comes with more stuff , but i do not like running it via firefox so i build 1.0.9 |
| 16:31.03 | ajavid | seria-mau, #debian-kde irc.debian.org |
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| 16:31.18 | seria-mau | ajavid: ? |
| 16:31.23 | ajavid | seria-mau, ? |
| 16:31.29 | Illusion | lol |
| 16:31.31 | ajavid | does that not make sense to you at all? |
| 16:31.36 | seria-mau | no, it doesn't |
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| 16:31.53 | ajavid | seria-mau, it means join irc.debian.org and join channel #debian-kde there |
| 16:31.53 | seria-mau | debian doesn't package 4.3 |
| 16:31.59 | seria-mau | yes, but why? |
| 16:32.14 | ajavid | becuase all the debian kde gurus are ove rthere, and if anyone can help you, its them. |
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| 16:32.32 | ajavid | there is a reason we have specific channels, you know... |
| 16:32.42 | ajavid | its not just for show n tell. |
| 16:32.56 | seria-mau | i compiled the rc2 myself, why should i ask debian people? |
| 16:32.59 | fxiny | them and a medicine man :P |
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| 16:33.34 | fxiny | checks google |
| 16:34.20 | zatamine | ajavid: all folder in my Desktop are in read mode |
| 16:34.37 | ajavid | zatamine, by desktop you mean /home/zatamine/Desktop ? |
| 16:34.42 | fxiny | yes , a shaman |
| 16:34.50 | fxiny | ajavid: :P |
| 16:34.51 | zatamine | yes |
| 16:35.06 | ajavid | zatamine, can you please pastebin the result of ls -l ~/Desktop |
| 16:35.26 | fxiny | ajavid: i know you and enouf are kde users ! |
| 16:35.44 | ajavid | enouf, isn't |
| 16:36.06 | fxiny | no ? lemme ask again |
| 16:36.11 | zatamine | ok, wait please |
| 16:36.16 | ajavid | he uses a couple of apps |
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| 16:38.18 | ajavid | fxiny, no answer |
| 16:38.29 | ajavid | fxiny, I think he is sleeping or at work, its going to his voicemail |
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| 16:38.53 | fxiny | ajavid: i'm not asking him but someone else |
| 16:38.58 | ajavid | oh |
| 16:38.59 | ajavid | lol |
| 16:39.07 | seria-mau | omg. wrong channel |
| 16:39.13 | seria-mau | argh |
| 16:39.13 | fxiny | ajavid: to an xmonad user like me |
| 16:39.38 | ajavid | seria-mau, huh |
| 16:39.39 | seria-mau | ajavid: sorry |
| 16:39.47 | seria-mau | :/ |
| 16:39.51 | ajavid | ok |
| 16:40.01 | ajavid | fxiny, go on... |
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| 16:41.51 | fxiny | ajavid: no answers , is sleeping |
| 16:42.04 | ajavid | 11:39 < fxiny> ajavid: to an xmonad user like me |
| 16:42.11 | ajavid | that is a sentence fragment |
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| 16:42.20 | ajavid | defrag your sentence please |
| 16:42.33 | ajavid | yes.. to an xmonad user like you... what? |
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| 16:42.42 | fxiny | amphi: seen ? i told ajavid you are sleeping ... |
| 16:42.56 | ajavid | what? |
| 16:43.08 | ajavid | fxiny, what are you on about man? what did you smoke today? ;) |
| 16:43.32 | ajavid | amphi, pin, asshole |
| 16:43.38 | fxiny | ajavid: hahaha ;) |
| 16:44.10 | ajavid | zatamine, how long must I wait for that pastebin dude |
| 16:44.17 | fxiny | ajavid: ajavid antway , yes , iirc he uses some kde apps |
| 16:44.22 | ajavid | zatamine, I want to see what your directory perms look like inside of ~/Desktop |
| 16:44.23 | fxiny | anyway* |
| 16:44.35 | ajavid | zatamine, we need to just fix file owndership not reinstall debian hopefuly |
| 16:44.36 | fxiny | ajavid: konsole ? yes |
| 16:44.36 | ajavid | hurry up |
| 16:44.46 | ajavid | not anymore |
| 16:44.59 | ajavid | he switched to xterm or something |
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| 16:45.07 | ajavid | who konws, he runs everything on a damn calculator. |
| 16:45.19 | ajavid | (might as well) my calculator is faster than his pc |
| 16:45.21 | fxiny | yeahhh |
| 16:45.54 | fxiny | no way , he uses a PII like mine but on steroids |
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| 16:46.50 | ajavid | oh yeah, you run a calculator too |
| 16:46.55 | ajavid | fantastic |
| 16:46.59 | ajavid | I'm surrounded by grampas |
| 16:47.06 | jelly | judd: versions clamav-base |
| 16:47.11 | judd | jelly: clamav-base -- etch: 0.90.1dfsg-4etch16 etch-security: 0.90.1dfsg-4etch19 sid: 0.94.dfsg.1-1 etch-backports: 0.94.dfsg.2-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.94.dfsg.2-1 sid: 0.94.dfsg.2-1 lenny-security: 0.94.dfsg.2-1lenny2 etch-volatile: 0.95.1+dfsg-0volatile2 lenny-volatile: 0.95.1+dfsg-1volatile2 sid: 0.95.2+dfsg-2 squeeze: 0.95.2+dfsg-2 |
| 16:47.18 | fxiny | ajavid: powered buy a Galvani frog :P |
| 16:47.20 | liable | !irritate ajavid |
| 16:47.21 | dpkg | ajavid: wenas where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol U FUX0RZ |
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| 16:47.33 | ajavid | hehe |
| 16:47.49 | fxiny | hahaahahah |
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| 16:48.56 | fxiny | jelly: i have a brilliant idea to keep the forensic agent busy and off my secrets |
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| 16:49.10 | fxiny | ajavid: be prepared ;) |
| 16:49.46 | diesel | Is it possible to reset netstat statistics without rebooting or without unloading and loading the NIC driver? |
| 16:50.23 | ajavid | like m something tools |
| 16:50.30 | ajavid | ahh i can't remember |
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| 16:51.14 | ajavid | mii-diag |
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| 16:52.11 | ajavid | nope |
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| 16:52.28 | ajavid | I thought it provided some reset function |
| 16:52.41 | pargon24[GNU] | attempting to install weechat ('atp-get weechat-curses') I get an error ('E: Couldn't find package weechat-curses')... |
| 16:52.44 | ajavid | I dunno why I thought that |
| 16:52.49 | SpankyFromBRC | oy! I've recently started getting GPG errors (public key not found), and my research doesn't show a clear way to correct the problem, aside from removing offending sources. My sources are security Release and etch Release. |
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| 16:52.51 | SpankyFromBRC | Thoughts? |
| 16:53.04 | SpankyFromBRC | e.g.: W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 16:53.33 | SpankyFromBRC | I tried sudo apt-key update to no avail |
| 16:53.54 | ajavid | !no public key |
| 16:53.54 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. The current key will be linked at http://ftp-master.debian.org/. |
| 16:54.13 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: aptitude search weechat (whatever that is) :) |
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| 16:57.07 | pargon24[GNU] | jpinx-eeepc: not sure what your saying, I attemped the command to search put it didn't do anything. |
| 16:57.21 | Paul_E | Hi all--I'm getting an error when running aptitude update / dist-upgrade that there is a GPG error due to a public key not being available when updating from ftp.egr.msu.edu. It suggests apt-get update to correct the problem, however that reports the same. How can I resolve? |
| 16:57.52 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:58.35 | SpankyFromBRC | Paul_E: I just ran: sudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
| 16:58.41 | SpankyFromBRC | this installed the latest keyring |
| 16:58.56 | SpankyFromBRC | of course, it was unsigned (chicken/egg problem) |
| 16:59.40 | SpankyFromBRC | or read: |
| 16:59.42 | SpankyFromBRC | !no public key |
| 16:59.42 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. The current key will be linked at http://ftp-master.debian.org/. |
| 16:59.51 | pargon24[GNU] | nknuttler: http://pastebin.com/d2e03a125 |
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| 17:00.34 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: well... isn't that box online? |
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| 17:00.52 | pargon24[GNU] | nkuttler: yes I'm using it right now. |
| 17:01.11 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: you only have the install dvd in your sources.list right now |
| 17:01.17 | nkuttler | !tell pargon24[GNU] about sources.list |
| 17:01.25 | Paul_E | SpankyFromBRC: thank you |
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| 17:01.48 | SpankyFromBRC | Paul_E: it's not the *right* way (b/c you install an unsigned set of keys) but it does work |
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| 17:02.16 | SpankyFromBRC | I'm sure there's a better (less easy) way: download new file, checksum, install, etc |
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| 17:03.21 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: then the package probably doesn't exist - where did you find it? |
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| 17:04.09 | nkuttler | judd: versions weechat |
| 17:04.11 | judd | nkuttler: weechat -- etch: 0.2.1-1 lenny: 0.2.6-1+lenny1 lenny-security: 0.2.6-1+lenny1 sid: 0.2.6-2 etch-backports: 0.2.6.1-1~bpo40+1 sid: 0.2.6.3-1 squeeze: 0.2.6.3-1 |
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| 17:04.29 | pargon24[GNU] | jpinx-eeepc: its a package for weechat(IRC cleint, weechat.flashtux.org). |
| 17:04.45 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: fix your sources.list |
| 17:04.45 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: you need to fix your sources.list first |
| 17:04.58 | pargon24[GNU] | okay |
| 17:05.12 | pargon24[GNU] | so how do I go about that |
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| 17:05.26 | shivraj_ | what version of KDE is available for Lenny ? |
| 17:05.28 | jpinx-eeepc | it appears that you have installed from a DVD/CD and not connected online. |
| 17:05.39 | shivraj_ | !kde |
| 17:05.39 | dpkg | [kde] K Desktop Environment, based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Not a window manager. To get KDE, ask me about <install kde>. Ask your KDE questions in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net), see also <kde_trouble>. http://wiki.debian.org/KDE KDE-related IRC channels: http://wiki.kde.org/IRC+Channels |
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| 17:05.46 | mjt | is there some bluetooth howto or quick-start guide available? |
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| 17:05.56 | mjt | !bluetooth |
| 17:05.56 | dpkg | [bluetooth] a wireless communications protocol: http://bluetooth.com/ or about as secure as shouting. apt-get install bluez-utils; then run hidd --search as root. http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
| 17:06.01 | mjt | aja |
| 17:06.17 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: do /msg dpkg sources.list in here |
| 17:06.21 | liable | blutooth has the shittest docs of anything in linux |
| 17:06.42 | pargon24[GNU] | jpinx-eepc: I'm online with the box though... |
| 17:06.49 | nkuttler | syncing anything with my mobile phone never worked for me anyway :/ |
| 17:06.55 | liable | its recently been completely changed, with absolutely fuckall documentation |
| 17:07.19 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: you need to read the message you have from dpkg |
| 17:07.25 | pargon24[GNU] | I did |
| 17:07.43 | jpinx-eeepc | mobile phone connecting to linux sux:( |
| 17:07.48 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: and? |
| 17:07.58 | mjt | bluetoothd[14892]: Failed to access HAL |
| 17:08.02 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: did you add a repository near you? |
| 17:08.17 | nkuttler | jpinx-eeepc: i just want to sync phone numbers... i have to keep another os around for that.. |
| 17:08.20 | shivraj_ | how do you install kde4 ? |
| 17:08.47 | jpinx-eeepc | nkuttler: my sympathy - it never worked for me and my nokia :( |
| 17:08.53 | nkuttler | :( |
| 17:09.02 | mjt | jpinx-eeepc: thanks... :( |
| 17:09.05 | jpinx-eeepc | shivraj_: aptitude install kde |
| 17:09.10 | liable | works for my nokia |
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| 17:09.35 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: nokia 6310 here - how did you do it? |
| 17:09.38 | adb | shivraj: ask in #kde |
| 17:09.45 | pargon24[GNU] | jpinx-eeepc: please keep in mind I'm a bit new to this. that tomessage to me tells me I have to change it, but it doesnt say specifically. |
| 17:10.09 | liable | jpinx-eeepc: i have a 6210, just a matter of making the right rfcomm.conf |
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| 17:10.20 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: add the two example lines and put in your country code for <cc> |
| 17:10.27 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the package that finds the nearest/best sources and adds it automagically? |
| 17:10.28 | liable | then whatever chatscripts |
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| 17:11.27 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: actually it's a bit redundant - I gave my bluetooth USB thingy away :( |
| 17:11.41 | jpinx-eeepc | but I suppose IR would work? |
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| 17:12.19 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: I have a USB IR thingy somewhwere - will that do it? |
| 17:12.24 | pargon24[GNU] | crap, I cant save the file... |
| 17:12.35 | nkuttler | pargon24[GNU]: yeah, well, be root |
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| 17:13.03 | shivraj_ | jpinx-eeepc: first I have to upgrade to squeeze right ? |
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| 17:13.22 | jpinx-eeepc | shivraj_: I don't think so |
| 17:13.26 | liable | jpinx-eeepc: for what? |
| 17:13.31 | shivraj_ | jpinx-eeepc: for 4.0 ? |
| 17:13.36 | adb | judd: versions kde |
| 17:13.38 | judd | adb: kde -- etch: 5:47 lenny: 5:48 sid: 5:48 |
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| 17:13.58 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: an IR connection for the Nokia |
| 17:14.00 | adb | judd: versions kde4 |
| 17:14.00 | judd | adb: kde4 -- experimental: 4 |
| 17:14.24 | jmoncayo | hi guys, anyone here has installed and configured wifidog captive portal recently? |
| 17:14.33 | jpinx-eeepc | shivraj_: according to what adbb is finding - you'll need sid - are you really ready for that? |
| 17:14.36 | mjt | obexfs mount always reports successful operation. but never actually mounted anything |
| 17:14.39 | liable | jpinx-eeepc: ir should work, sure. not done it myself though, is a bit slow i think, but should work |
| 17:14.52 | shivraj_ | jpinx-eeepc: I rather not |
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| 17:15.05 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: I'll need to find it and see. |
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| 17:15.20 | jpinx-eeepc | shivraj_: why KDE? |
| 17:15.31 | shivraj_ | I dunno Im tired of gnome ... |
| 17:15.31 | DanDare | !sid |
| 17:15.31 | dpkg | it has been said that sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
| 17:15.41 | adb | judd: versions wifidog |
| 17:15.41 | judd | adb: wifidog -- |
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| 17:16.02 | adb | jmoncayo: ^^ |
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| 17:16.48 | Jubei | hello. My apache server is complaining that it cannot find it's own hostname (apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for <myhostname>). I recently changed /etc/hostname to just the host (without the network part, i.e. changed it to myhost insted of myhost.mydomain.com) |
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| 17:17.04 | cockroach | Jubei: do you have a corresponding entry in /etc/hosts? |
| 17:17.21 | Jubei | cockroach: i do but only for one of the network interfaces |
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| 17:17.44 | Jubei | cockroach, i.e. I have an entry for 10.0.0.250 , but 127.0.0.1 has localhost next to it |
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| 17:18.03 | cockroach | Jubei: add your new hostname to one of those entries |
| 17:18.08 | Jubei | cockroach, apache on the next line says" apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName" |
| 17:18.40 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: I *know* there's a friggin pkg that automagically doea the cources.list - anyone know the name. Aptitude search is not finding it for me:( |
| 17:18.46 | Jubei | cockroach, it's already correct for 10.0.0.250, should I also change it for 127.0.0.1 ? |
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| 17:19.14 | cockroach | Jubei: hmm, i don't think that's necessary. |
| 17:19.25 | cockroach | Jubei: to you have an fqdn on one of those lines? |
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| 17:19.50 | Jubei | cockroach, the thing is the server is NAT'ed so the actual IP the hostname resolves to is different than 10.0.0.250 |
| 17:20.09 | Jubei | cockroach, i do yes but it's for the router's external interface |
| 17:20.14 | cockroach | ah, NAT, always fun. |
| 17:20.20 | Jubei | cockroach, ^^ |
| 17:20.22 | jpinx-eeepc | pargon24[GNU]: use apt-spy for automatic finding the best repo and adding it to your system |
| 17:20.37 | jmoncayo | adb: so had you? |
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| 17:21.13 | adb | jmoncayo: no |
| 17:21.32 | adb | tried wifi-radar ? |
| 17:21.33 | jmoncayo | what is with the versions? |
| 17:21.41 | cockroach | Jubei: hrm, i can't really compare that to my installation now, not using NAT. |
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| 17:22.02 | Jubei | cockroach, it's ok thank you for trying to help anyway :) i appreciate it. |
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| 17:22.43 | cockroach | Jubei: but i'm tempted to try this on one of my machines, just out of curiosity :) |
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| 17:22.51 | Jubei | cockroach, %% |
| 17:23.00 | adb | jmoncayo: wifidog is not in debian ? |
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| 17:23.52 | cockroach | Jubei: how are you telling apache about your interfaces? in ports.conf? |
| 17:24.01 | cockroach | (as in "Listen 80" "Listen 443") |
| 17:24.07 | cockroach | or are you more explicit? |
| 17:24.17 | Jubei | cockroach, I uhhm.. i haven't done any such configuration. just did apt-get install. let me have a look |
| 17:24.42 | cockroach | Jubei: okay, in that case you're probably not doing anything bad :) |
| 17:24.53 | Jubei | cockroach, yea just lsiten 80 and ifmodule mod_ssl listen 443 |
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| 17:27.01 | cockroach | Jubei: so let me get this straight. you have "foo" in /etc/hostname and an entry for "foo" in /etc/hosts, right? |
| 17:27.31 | Jubei | cockroach, no i have foo in /etc/hostname and foo.mydomain.com in /etc/hosts |
| 17:27.40 | Jubei | cockroach, is that bad?^^ |
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| 17:28.18 | cockroach | Jubei: try adding just "foo" to /etc/hosts, too |
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| 17:28.45 | Jubei | cockroach, how can I then check to see if it works? coz apache sent me the message on the logrotate cron task |
| 17:29.13 | cockroach | hrm, i guess if you restart apache you should also get the same error. /etc/init.d/apache2 restart or apache2ctl restart |
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| 17:31.27 | Jubei | cockroach, this time I got "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 10.0.0.250 for ServerName" |
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| 17:32.09 | Jubei | cockroach, maybe I have to restart networking etc after I make changes to the hosts file ? |
| 17:32.20 | ChadStat | no |
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| 17:32.46 | ChadStat | Can you paste your hosts file into pastebin.com ? |
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| 17:32.56 | Jubei | ChadStat, sure. sec |
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| 17:33.58 | Jubei | chadstat: http://pastebin.com/m7664ffb4 |
| 17:34.14 | micols | for how long will there be security updates for etch? |
| 17:34.26 | micols | it will not be supported forever will it ?:) |
| 17:34.43 | ChadStat | sometime next week, You best hurry. |
| 17:34.54 | micols | ChadStat: ? |
| 17:35.03 | micols | will it close next week? |
| 17:35.06 | ChadStat | They are going to quit supporting it monday. |
| 17:35.13 | ChadStat | You dident see the news. =p |
| 17:35.34 | micols | quit joking or link reference your statement :) |
| 17:35.41 | ChadStat | (I'm being sarcastic) |
| 17:35.57 | micols | i think woody was only supported for a year or so after |
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| 17:36.07 | micols | ..the new release came out |
| 17:36.12 | ChadStat | Why don't you upgrade? |
| 17:36.26 | micols | well i have to convince someone to upgrade :) |
| 17:36.35 | ChadStat | Oh. |
| 17:36.38 | micols | cannot do that if they can just keep getting security updates |
| 17:36.46 | ChadStat | Just break apt. |
| 17:37.10 | Polarina | xD |
| 17:37.26 | cockroach | Jubei: try changing the 10.x line to "[...] foo foo.mydomain.com" |
| 17:37.44 | Jubei | cockroach, that's the way it was before, |
| 17:38.01 | ChadStat | mv /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/apt-get-old; echo "#!/bin/bash \n echo "Your shit is too old." > /usr/bin/apt-get |
| 17:38.28 | cockroach | Jubei: ah |
| 17:38.29 | Jubei | cockroach, oh oh i see |
| 17:38.34 | Jubei | cockroach, let me try it |
| 17:39.18 | DanDare | !volatile |
| 17:39.18 | dpkg | from memory, volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://volatile.debian.org/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. |
| 17:39.56 | Jubei | cockroach, same thing. couldn't determin fqdn, using 10.0.0.250 |
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| 17:40.08 | cockroach | Jubei: duh |
| 17:40.11 | cockroach | sucks |
| 17:40.20 | Jubei | cockroach, oh well at least we tried^^ |
| 17:40.27 | cockroach | Jubei: okay, you win, i'm going to boot my other box :) |
| 17:40.29 | ChadStat | Paste your host file again. |
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| 17:42.43 | shivraj | how can I get courier new font for gnome-terminal ? |
| 17:43.31 | dustybin | I think everybody should seed debian distro |
| 17:43.38 | dustybin | do your bit, make this a better world |
| 17:44.28 | jpinx-eeepc | dustybin: I've heard you can torrent debian, but how do you know if it's up-to-date and genuine? |
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| 17:44.38 | cockroach | Jubei: what if you move the fqdn to the 127.0.0.1 line? |
| 17:44.42 | Jubei | cockroach, chadstat figured it out |
| 17:44.47 | Jubei | cockroach, yea that was it |
| 17:45.02 | ChadStat | Its always the first line. |
| 17:45.11 | Jubei | cockroach, ^^ thank you anyway |
| 17:45.12 | valdyn | jpinx-eeepc: same way you control it anywhere - checksums |
| 17:45.14 | ChadStat | Also.. the fqdn goes first, then the hostname |
| 17:45.16 | Jubei | ChadStat, can you explain the logic of it? |
| 17:45.20 | Jubei | oh |
| 17:45.34 | cockroach | Jubei: ah, okay. too slow again :) |
| 17:45.38 | dustybin | jpinx-eeepc: seed the official ones what are listed on debian.org |
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| 17:47.56 | ChadStat | I would have helped earlier, But I'm trying to force a web server to be a pam/nss/mysql controlled chrooted machine |
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| 17:48.00 | ChadStat | Its not happy with me. :( |
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| 17:50.01 | jpinx-eeepc | dustybin: it's a good plan, but I see no structure for it |
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| 17:51.30 | ChadStat | dustybin: How about I seed in your eye? |
| 17:51.36 | ChadStat | =P |
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| 17:53.08 | dustybin | smothers ChadStat with crab paste |
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| 17:53.34 | Bilbo_Baggins | yuck! |
| 17:53.38 | jumk | i need unrar software for debian |
| 17:53.40 | ChadStat | pukes green pea soup onto dustybin while masturbating with a crucifix |
| 17:53.42 | jumk | anyone know a good one? |
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| 17:54.08 | nkuttler | jumk: unrar, non-free |
| 17:54.11 | asg-phone | mmm crabpaste |
| 17:55.30 | jumk | ty |
| 17:55.43 | jelly | points ChadStat to #debian-possessions |
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| 17:57.05 | mnemonic | hi |
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| 18:01.25 | aboyz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.01 | nkuttler | aboyz: put it in your ~/.bashrc |
| 18:02.02 | ChadStat | have you considered setting up static dhcp |
| 18:02.03 | ChadStat | ? |
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| 18:02.51 | aboyz | out what command in .bashrc? |
| 18:02.55 | aboyz | you mean out in ipconfig |
| 18:03.02 | aboyz | i see that will work. |
| 18:03.10 | treetop | i'm new to debian and im about to burn it and install it. i hear its the best |
| 18:03.32 | treetop | any advise before i start |
| 18:03.47 | nkuttler | treetop: the install guide is a good read |
| 18:03.53 | treetop | ty |
| 18:03.54 | aboyz | thx |
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| 18:03.56 | nkuttler | treetop: and, get the netinst image |
| 18:04.04 | ChadStat | Ya |
| 18:04.10 | ChadStat | The whole thing is pointless. |
| 18:04.11 | ChadStat | =P |
| 18:04.12 | treetop | im downloading debian-502-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
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| 18:04.20 | treetop | is that the wrong one ? |
| 18:04.23 | junk | yeah |
| 18:04.24 | ChadStat | Just get the net install. |
| 18:04.26 | nkuttler | treetop: nah, it's fine |
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| 18:04.38 | nkuttler | treetop: just too big for my taste |
| 18:04.45 | ChadStat | By the time you've downloaded that.. You'll have to replace most of the files on it with updates. |
| 18:04.46 | treetop | kool ill beable to setup my wireless card with it ? |
| 18:04.53 | treetop | im on a nice connection |
| 18:04.55 | nkuttler | treetop: that depends |
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| 18:05.01 | ChadStat | it depends on what you're using. |
| 18:05.06 | treetop | linksys |
| 18:05.11 | treetop | wireless g |
| 18:05.13 | ChadStat | That helps a lot. |
| 18:05.40 | jelly | it's someone else's wireless = very nice :-) |
| 18:05.48 | treetop | <ChadStat> damn will i ? well i dident know if i should have gotten the net one because of the wirless thing |
| 18:06.12 | treetop | debian-502-i386-kde-CD-1.iso245.6 kB/s - 616.6 MB of 645 MB |
| 18:06.13 | treetop | http://laotzu.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/iso-cd/debian-502-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 18:06.13 | treetop | PauseCancel |
| 18:06.18 | nkuttler | treetop: it doesn't matter which installer you use. it matter if your chip is supported by the installer |
| 18:06.27 | jelly | treetop: if you need extra firmware to drive your wireless, no official debian iso will have it |
| 18:06.39 | hkserp101 | hi need some help with a nic card issue |
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| 18:06.44 | ChadStat | http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ |
| 18:06.55 | ChadStat | Check with that, ITs close enough to debian. |
| 18:07.15 | hkserp101 | i have a nic card but its not working with lenny |
| 18:07.21 | treetop | <jelly> im sure i can download it on my windows os ;x and install it ? (USB drive) |
| 18:07.31 | jelly | treetop: that's correct |
| 18:07.32 | ChadStat | all the drivers in ubuntu come from debian, So if ubuntu supports something.. then debian does |
| 18:07.44 | treetop | sweet |
| 18:07.50 | nkuttler | ChadStat: wrong |
| 18:07.57 | ChadStat | No? |
| 18:08.01 | jelly | ChadStat: that's not exactly true, Ubuntu provides binary/nonfree drivers |
| 18:08.09 | ChadStat | Ah. |
| 18:08.12 | ChadStat | Well.. |
| 18:08.14 | hkserp101 | isn't there a ndiswrapper thing for wireless cards or adpaters |
| 18:08.20 | treetop | <ChadStat> thats good to know because ive used ubuntu, i dident really like it it was to uha... user friendly ? lol |
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| 18:08.45 | ChadStat | If you want something not user friendly.. try red hat |
| 18:08.46 | ChadStat | =p |
| 18:08.58 | nkuttler | windows ftw |
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| 18:09.13 | ChadStat | mmm... up2date, Spending hours and hours fucking with dependences |
| 18:09.29 | ChadStat | apt <# |
| 18:09.31 | ChadStat | <3 |
| 18:09.37 | treetop | redhat blows ive not used it in years but i know back then i hated it |
| 18:10.21 | treetop | brb im going to login on my ubuntu tower |
| 18:10.56 | hkserp101 | could someone help me out with some commandline commands to trouble shout my nic card issues, at the moment google is NOT my friend |
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| 18:11.44 | ChadStat | Uh |
| 18:12.12 | ChadStat | You'll have to provide more info |
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| 18:12.50 | treetop | it said i was ban from this channel wtf ? |
| 18:12.55 | treetop | no clones ? |
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| 18:13.27 | hkserp101 | its an onboard intel pro 100, dmi shows its avaible and modprobe says it has the e100 drivers, but its not listed at an ethx device |
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| 18:14.18 | ChadStat | Can you get me the lspci? |
| 18:14.31 | ChadStat | Also a uname -a would be nice too. |
| 18:14.38 | valdyn | hkserp101: "ifconfig -a" |
| 18:14.39 | cmyers_work | I have a 4-core machine with 12GGB of ram. 0 swap used, plenty of memory free, load average is under 1.0. Yet, whennnnn I am typing, I sometimes get keyboard repeats (like theeeere!). Seriously. Annoying! Any ideas how to fix this, or diagnose the problem? |
| 18:15.17 | hkserp101 | lspci not installed |
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| 18:15.33 | junk | cmyers_home: get the spunk out of your keyboard XD :P |
| 18:15.36 | ChadStat | don't spend so much money on ram and buy a better keyboard. |
| 18:15.40 | hkserp101 | kernel 2.6.26-1-686 |
| 18:15.45 | hkserp101 | lol |
| 18:16.03 | cahoot | cmyers_home: nothing in dmesg? |
| 18:16.05 | ChadStat | I said uname -a |
| 18:16.10 | ChadStat | not uname =P |
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| 18:16.23 | smokey | hi |
| 18:16.32 | cmyers_work | [819635.299027] usb 1-1.4.2: reset low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 18 |
| 18:16.38 | hkserp101 | could be ur io controller, when i work for a joystick company the io controller wouldn't release the key-up stroke |
| 18:16.40 | cmyers_work | x a billion. Could that be related? |
| 18:17.01 | ChadStat | That looks like it. |
| 18:17.04 | hkserp101 | is it usb? |
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| 18:17.19 | cmyers_work | Lemme tail dmesg and see if it happens when the repeats happen |
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| 18:17.37 | hkserp101 | that problem is related to ps/2 controllers and is not usb related |
| 18:17.45 | hkserp101 | also called sticky keys |
| 18:18.11 | cmyers_work | it is a USB keyboard |
| 18:18.18 | cmyers_work | I actually have two plugged in right now |
| 18:18.21 | hkserp101 | sorry have no idea |
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| 18:18.37 | cmyers_work | it is saying that message in syslog like several times a minnnute |
| 18:18.40 | hkserp101 | ChadStat: i dont have lspci install |
| 18:18.44 | cmyers_work | yeh, it just did it there =( |
| 18:18.50 | ChadStat | So install it. |
| 18:19.09 | cmyers_work | ughhhhhh, that message is totally it. Good call there, cahoot |
| 18:19.12 | avu | gugl |
| 18:19.13 | cmyers_work | any ideas how to fix ittt? |
| 18:19.38 | smokey | does the tool, nvidia-xconfig still apply to lenny? |
| 18:19.41 | ChadStat | Try getting a different usb card. |
| 18:19.59 | ChadStat | Or using a port on another side of the machine |
| 18:20.34 | ChadStat | on another controller |
| 18:21.03 | cmyers_work | hmm |
| 18:21.08 | cmyers_work | I have two mice plugged in |
| 18:21.16 | cmyers_work | and the two devices it complains about (18 and 19) are the two mice |
| 18:21.25 | hkserp101 | u have 2 mice and 2 keyboards |
| 18:21.32 | hkserp101 | why? just to test |
| 18:21.35 | cmyers_work | I like to multi-task. |
| 18:21.46 | ChadStat | I would get a different usb card |
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| 18:21.50 | cmyers_work | sometimes someone will come over to my desk for pair programming, and need to drive for a minute |
| 18:21.54 | ChadStat | the one you're using is shitty. =P |
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| 18:22.06 | leoventura | cmyers_work I'm having problems with the kbd too...it's usb and it stop to response and I have to reboot the machine |
| 18:22.20 | cmyers_work | and one of my keyboards is too loud (model M variant from unicomp) and bothers my coworkesr, so I only use it at night |
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| 18:22.34 | ChadStat | uses an OSX machine as his workstation, has none of these issues. =P |
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| 18:23.00 | cmyers_work | the usb controller is built into the motherboard of this dell precision T5500 (which is otherwise a very nice machine) so I doubt that is happening, ChadStat |
| 18:23.20 | cmyers_work | lemme try plugging it in elsewhere though |
| 18:23.21 | magyar_ | msg |
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| 18:23.53 | ChadStat | cmyers_work: What cpu is in the machine? |
| 18:24.08 | cbeok | Im having troubles getting my ra0 (rt2860sta) wireless device working on my new eeepc 1000. I'm a little confused as to why it refused to function b/c it was functioning perfectly moments ago when I did a network install of lenny. the wireless network I'm connecting to is unsecured. |
| 18:24.10 | DanDare | i want to perform "git clone git://git.videolan.org/x264.git" on Lenny, what´s the right package to install? Seems it´s not "git" |
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| 18:24.24 | cmyers_work | 4 core: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz |
| 18:24.42 | cahoot | cbeok: what kernel? |
| 18:24.57 | hkserp101 | the lspci command is part of which package? |
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| 18:25.29 | Kornholijo | best idea: deleting /etc and no serial access |
| 18:25.37 | cbeok | cahoot: well, I've just updated to 2.6.29 after reading about this issue on the debain wiki |
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| 18:25.42 | cbeok | still no joy though |
| 18:26.02 | cmyers_work | dpkg: tell hkserp101 about lspci |
| 18:26.16 | cbeok | cahoot: (2.6.29-bpo.2-686) |
| 18:26.31 | cahoot | cbeok: modprobe -r rt2860sta; modprobe rt2860sta; check dmesg for complaints |
| 18:27.12 | cahoot | (might be you need firmware) |
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| 18:29.34 | cbeok | well, there are some complaints in dmesg: Error 2 opening /etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat |
| 18:30.20 | cbeok | the real question is why might it work during install but not now? |
| 18:30.26 | hkserp101 | thxs cmyers_work |
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| 18:30.46 | hkserp101 | okay i got a lspci and it shows the pci card as there |
| 18:30.59 | hkserp101 | but where are its configuration files? |
| 18:31.25 | hkserp101 | do the e100 drivers apply for all of the intel pro 100 cards |
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| 18:33.09 | hark | hkserp101: lspci -nn |grep 0200 |
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| 18:34.22 | hkserp101 | thxs hark, it shows me the nic card, but its not configured, i don't get an ethx alias |
| 18:34.38 | hkserp101 | where do i look to configure it manually or automatically? |
| 18:35.25 | hark | hkserp101: does /sbin/ifconfig -a show it? |
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| 18:36.09 | hkserp101 | no it doesn't hark |
| 18:36.49 | cmyers_work | cahoot, ChadStat: The mouses were both plugged into the hub built into my monitor, when I unplugged them and plugged the one into a different hub, it seems to have fixed the problem |
| 18:36.52 | cmyers_work | thanks for the assist =D |
| 18:37.00 | ChadStat | Ya. |
| 18:37.09 | ChadStat | I knew it was some piece of shitty hardware involved. =P |
| 18:37.19 | hark | hkserp101: then paste the output of that lspci command i gave |
| 18:37.29 | cmyers_work | the hub I plugged them into is also build into my other monitor, I think it is identical |
| 18:37.45 | cmyers_work | so the problem might be because the first one was daisy-chained farther away from my PC |
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| 18:38.08 | cmyers_work | perhaps that hub doesn't deal with latency of being a few hops out very well. |
| 18:38.17 | hkserp101 | is it an actual hub with a usb controller in it or just some logic to support 1 or usb devices down 1 cable? |
| 18:38.40 | ChadStat | Or it could be because the profiteering gluttons who designed your monitor used child labor to put that usb hub together. =P |
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| 18:38.48 | cmyers_work | I guess I don't really know. It's a Dell 19in LCD (a pretty nice one) with 4 ports. |
| 18:39.00 | cmyers_work | ....or that. |
| 18:39.15 | hkserp101 | it probably has a usb controller in it |
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| 18:39.33 | hkserp101 | dell are pretty good about that |
| 18:39.50 | cmyers_work | it seems highly likely these dell monitors were assembled somewhere with very poor conditions, by someone making very little money (or a machine) |
| 18:40.06 | cmyers_work | not sure if that gets all the "credit" for it not working though. |
| 18:40.39 | ChadStat | no no, More likely is the fact that there is not much bandwidth on those hubs, and you're running too much shit though it. |
| 18:41.11 | c0m1 | um, just wanted to check: you can rename an lvm logical volume while the system is running normally, right? |
| 18:41.19 | ChadStat | What might be better is to figure out which ports on your computer goto the separate controllers, and use separate ones for more than one mouse. |
| 18:41.32 | ChadStat | Uh.. How do you rename a volume? |
| 18:41.37 | ChadStat | You mean change the mount points? |
| 18:41.49 | c0m1 | lvrename |
| 18:41.53 | hkserp101 | true ChadStat, like having a hub throu a hub and wondering why ur not get 100 mbs |
| 18:42.25 | ChadStat | Or.. you could buy something that has usb2 and not worry about it |
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| 18:43.07 | hkserp101 | i dont think thats the problem, kbs don't overload the bw |
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| 18:43.34 | hkserp101 | how much data is there in a key press |
| 18:43.38 | ChadStat | It would be more the mice. |
| 18:43.52 | ChadStat | Also I'm thinking there was most likely something else going to that usb hub too. |
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| 18:44.08 | ChadStat | So you have 1.5mbit on the line, and two keyboards and two mice + other shit |
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| 18:44.32 | hkserp101 | yeah and 1.5 mega BITs not bytes |
| 18:44.44 | adriyel | anyone know of a webcam streaming service like ustream that works with Linux properly? |
| 18:44.54 | zinx | i would expect power issues way before bandwidth :/ |
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| 18:45.19 | hkserp101 | which turns out to be about 80 kBps |
| 18:45.20 | ChadStat | The hub was in his monitor, it was powered. |
| 18:45.27 | cahoot | adriyel: not knowing what ustream is - maybe look at 'motion' |
| 18:45.40 | ChadStat | I know of one, but I dare speak of it here. =P |
| 18:45.49 | hkserp101 | lol |
| 18:46.00 | adriyel | cahoot: I just want to stream video. |
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| 18:46.38 | ChadStat | Try cam4.com |
| 18:50.04 | hkserp101 | im still gettin nowhere with this dam eth card |
| 18:50.29 | hkserp101 | where is the file that does "alias eth0 e100" or something |
| 18:50.33 | ChadStat | Did you ever paste the output of lspci? |
| 18:50.49 | ChadStat | That is redhat, I'm pretty sure. |
| 18:50.50 | hkserp101 | or e100 <bassaddress> <irq> |
| 18:50.57 | hkserp101 | sorry ChadStat |
| 18:51.10 | ChadStat | though I might be wrong. |
| 18:51.28 | hkserp101 | its debian lenny |
| 18:51.28 | hkserp101 | runnin as my gateway |
| 18:51.56 | hkserp101 | its got 3 nics in it at the moment, 2 are working prefectly, which is how im connected to the network |
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| 18:52.28 | hkserp101 | the 3rd in onboard and isn't configured correctly for some reason |
| 18:52.35 | hkserp101 | the other 2 are pci cards and there identical |
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| 18:54.31 | hkserp101 | 01:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (CNR) Ethernet Controller [8086:103a] (rev 81) |
| 18:55.02 | hkserp101 | thats the lspci -nn | grep 0200, which will only display ethernet cards installed |
| 18:55.39 | hkserp101 | maybe i should add e100 to /etc/modules |
| 18:56.19 | seniorake | if a tar.gz archive contains a directory, say foo-program-1.2.3-rc5, how could i extract it using tar xfz so that the contents are being extracted into a directory called foo-program only? so that i do not need to rename the directory later |
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| 18:58.05 | hkserp101 | maybe its related to the irq settings, i haven't look at them yet |
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| 19:03.59 | cbeok | how does the debian install onfigure networking hardware? what script does it use? |
| 19:04.10 | cbeok | configure* |
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| 19:04.55 | cbeok | does anybody know why networking worked perfectly during a network install over my wireless but now that the system is up networking is broken? |
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| 19:05.02 | Rexxars | end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 694681663 <== Can I assume this drive is faulty? |
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| 19:06.11 | Stathol | cbeok: the main networking configuration file is /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:06.33 | uvstudios | can anyone assist with ftp on here? |
| 19:06.35 | Stathol | But for the interfaces to exist in the first place, the appropriate driver modules need to be loaded |
| 19:06.50 | nsadmin | uvstudios: /msg dpkg ask |
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| 19:07.05 | hkserp101 | Stathol: once lenny has configured ur hardware, otherwise eth or wlan wont be listed there |
| 19:07.09 | ChadStat | uvstudios: Do you own the server? |
| 19:07.40 | uvstudios | yes i do |
| 19:07.47 | ChadStat | Whats wrong then. |
| 19:08.01 | cbeok | I'm curious to know why the debian-installer could figure out how to use my rt2680sta driven device (ra0) but now that I have an install the device does not work. iwconfig commands don't stick, neither do iwpriv commands. the device will still come up and down as it should with ifconfig. |
| 19:08.22 | uvstudios | i'm trying to configure pure-ftpd to work with tls |
| 19:08.26 | uvstudios | but i'm having some problems |
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| 19:08.39 | ChadStat | ok..? |
| 19:08.44 | ChadStat | What problems. |
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| 19:08.58 | nsadmin | uvstudios: please be sicco |
| 19:09.02 | nsadmin | !sicco |
| 19:09.02 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 19:09.09 | uvstudios | well in my /etc/pure-ftpd directory there is not conf directory |
| 19:09.14 | uvstudios | !sicco |
| 19:09.14 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
| 19:09.28 | ChadStat | ok..? |
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| 19:09.54 | ChadStat | So where is the conf file? |
| 19:10.07 | uvstudios | those files are in the /etc/pure-ftpd folder |
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| 19:10.34 | uvstudios | theres a configuration file, but i'm reading up on it and you need to echo -1 and replace the text of a file in conf folder, which i do not have |
| 19:10.35 | nsadmin | what is the problem you're experiencing specifically? |
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| 19:12.21 | uvstudios | well when i try to configure the file in the conf directory there isnt one so i can not do this, i'm curious of why there might not be a conf directory for pure-ftpd when i installed it |
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| 19:12.47 | uvstudios | because all the guides i read tell me i need to set it to accept TLS connections |
| 19:12.48 | nsadmin | isn't the conf dir /etc/pure-ftpd? |
| 19:13.06 | uvstudios | yes it is that where the pure-ftpd.conf file is |
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| 19:13.28 | uvstudios | but what i'm reading, is that i need to put something in the etc/pure-ftpd/conf directory |
| 19:13.38 | uvstudios | so the computer will start with ssl or tls enabled |
| 19:13.40 | L84Supper | did #debian-arm merge with this channel? |
| 19:14.34 | hkserp101 | where are the files that hold the ethx settings? its not in modprobe.d, where are they? |
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| 19:14.41 | uvstudios | what it says on the guide on the site is once the certificate has been installed, you need to start a tls-enabled pure-ftpd daemon with the -Y switch |
| 19:14.43 | smokey | the new nvidia drivers are a miracle |
| 19:15.04 | uvstudios | then it says /user/local/sbin/pure-ftpd --tls=1 & |
| 19:15.15 | uvstudios | so what i'm assuming is i just do this in my etc directory |
| 19:15.20 | nsadmin | uvstudios: local? that |
| 19:15.27 | nsadmin | is not a debian package |
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| 19:16.31 | uvstudios | well i tried it iand it worked |
| 19:16.33 | nsadmin | is that where your pure-ftpd is? |
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| 19:16.46 | nsadmin | so how did you install it? |
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| 19:17.17 | uvstudios | well what i did is i just created the ssl certificate in /etc/private/ssl |
| 19:17.27 | hkserp101 | he's probably installing the linux kernel himself, cos according to the dir struct, thats where local apps are supposed to be |
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| 19:17.56 | uvstudios | i then typed /etc/pure-ftpd --tls=1 & |
| 19:18.07 | uvstudios | and the server came up and looked like it was turned on |
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| 19:18.26 | uvstudios | i'm not sure if i need to create a conf file for the computer so it will automatically enable this at startup |
| 19:18.41 | nsadmin | uvstudios: type this: which pure-ftpd |
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| 19:19.20 | uvstudios | wow you are amazing, i just found out where this file it |
| 19:19.25 | nsadmin | and tell me the result, put a space first (/ first won't work) |
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| 19:20.30 | uvstudios | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:21.12 | uvstudios | which is correct but when i try to access the directory is tells me there is no such file or directory |
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| 19:21.12 | nsadmin | ok, cool... so that is probably the debian package after all |
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| 19:21.19 | nsadmin | how do you "access the dir"? |
| 19:21.37 | uvstudios | i type cd /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd |
| 19:21.48 | nsadmin | that's not a dir |
| 19:21.54 | uvstudios | but when i typed the command it says unable to start standalone server: aldready in use |
| 19:21.58 | nsadmin | it's a file |
| 19:22.11 | uvstudios | so that means i already enabled it in the file with the /etc/pure-ftpd directory |
| 19:22.27 | nsadmin | no, that means the server is running |
| 19:22.29 | nsadmin | try this... |
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| 19:22.48 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.15 | uvstudios | okay that worked just fine |
| 19:23.24 | nsadmin | now do this: |
| 19:23.26 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:23.44 | uvstudios | it started and the status says it is okay |
| 19:23.50 | ivarsv | where to get gsasl >= 0.2.27 ? |
| 19:24.04 | uvstudios | i'm assuming that means the TLS was configured correctly? |
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| 19:24.04 | nsadmin | that's how to restart your ftp server |
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| 19:24.11 | darrh00 | why xserver-xorg has to be dependent on console-setup? |
| 19:24.15 | nsadmin | don't assume anything. test. |
| 19:24.41 | uvstudios | i mean i have the key in the /etc/ssl/private/pure-ftpd.pem |
| 19:24.54 | uvstudios | i'm assuming i have to tell pure-ftpd where to find the tls key right? |
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| 19:25.00 | nsadmin | try transferring files |
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| 19:25.38 | nsadmin | maybe, but see if it already works |
| 19:26.02 | uvstudios | well another problem i'm having is connecting to the ftp server since my computer has a firewall enabled on it |
| 19:26.05 | nsadmin | what files do you think the server reads when you start the server? |
| 19:26.15 | uvstudios | i need to go intot he iptalbes and edit it |
| 19:26.26 | uvstudios | i pretty sure it reads the /etc/init.d files to start up |
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| 19:26.36 | nsadmin | what eose? |
| 19:26.39 | nsadmin | else |
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| 19:27.08 | uvstudios | also the /etc/pure-ftpd/pure-ftpd.conf file i would believe |
| 19:27.15 | nsadmin | yes. |
| 19:27.31 | nsadmin | when you restart the server, that causes the config file to be reread |
| 19:27.49 | uvstudios | now i basically need to go in there and search for a tls entry |
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| 19:29.11 | dondelelcaro | doublehp: if it doesn't show in netstat, then it's not open anymore. |
| 19:29.56 | uvstudios | nsadmin: in the config file do i need to list where the files are located for the tls? |
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| 19:30.13 | nsadmin | probably |
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| 19:30.41 | uvstudios | okay awesome, i'm probably going to have to read the documentation on it to see how to do it |
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| 19:30.52 | uvstudios | now i got one more question |
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| 19:31.05 | uvstudios | its dealing with iptables and ftp ports |
| 19:31.41 | nsadmin | uvstudios: running a firewall on the same machine as running services is not recommended |
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| 19:32.06 | uvstudios | oh i never knew that, it would be so much easier to configure everything on my router anyways |
| 19:32.08 | nsadmin | are you running wired or wireless? |
| 19:32.18 | uvstudios | i'm running wired |
| 19:32.34 | uvstudios | i've got a really weird question here, so my ftp server needs to be seen from the outside world right? |
| 19:32.40 | nsadmin | ok, so you have an eth cable connected to the computer... and the other end of that goes? |
| 19:32.55 | uvstudios | it goes to my vpn/router |
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| 19:33.20 | uvstudios | i could also install a firewall before it hits the router, but i never really was too sure on how to build one |
| 19:33.31 | rjmoore1 | hello!!! |
| 19:33.54 | rjmoore1 | i have a question... |
| 19:34.00 | nsadmin | ok, so yeah, you could set things up on the router |
| 19:34.01 | rjmoore1 | can someone help?? |
| 19:34.06 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 19:34.06 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 19:34.55 | uvstudios | should i allow my router to handle what ports should be open? |
| 19:35.39 | nsadmin | so on the outside of the router you have one IP? |
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| 19:35.56 | uvstudios | well i have the external ip which comes in through the modem |
| 19:36.03 | uvstudios | then i have interal ip adress for my servers |
| 19:36.15 | rjmoore1 | well. im running ubuntu 8.04 "dell release" and the update manager is differant than im used to.. it doesnt "list" the updates it wants to make, it only allows cancel or install "blind on my part" the lastime i let it do that it messed up my wifi.. |
| 19:36.30 | uvstudios | what i need to do is install another card and make that for my external ip |
| 19:36.36 | rjmoore1 | any ideas?? |
| 19:36.38 | nsadmin | presumably that IP is c-69-181-52-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net? |
| 19:36.42 | nkuttler | rjmoore1: try the #ubuntu channel |
| 19:36.45 | uvstudios | is this the correct type of setup? |
| 19:36.50 | uvstudios | yes exactly you got it |
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| 19:37.04 | rjmoore1 | yea i did and their either dumb or bullys |
| 19:37.07 | hkserp101 | ur gonna need a firewall, rjmoore1 cos the first thing u see is hits from everyone on known win ports |
| 19:37.17 | uvstudios | i'm going to eventually move my server to t1 line in a few days to get it up and going |
| 19:37.27 | rjmoore1 | win ports?? |
| 19:37.31 | rjmoore1 | windows?? |
| 19:37.39 | nsadmin | and on the inside of the router you have many IPS, presumably starting with 192.168? |
| 19:38.01 | uvstudios | yes exactly its setup with 192.168.0.1 as the gateway |
| 19:38.07 | rjmoore1 | please explain |
| 19:38.08 | uvstudios | and the dhcp is handled through tht router |
| 19:38.21 | hkserp101 | yeah |
| 19:38.26 | uvstudios | so my server right now has a ip adress of 192.168.0.101 |
| 19:38.30 | rjmoore1 | hkserp: please explain... |
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| 19:38.44 | hkserp101 | type netstat -n and see what ports are open |
| 19:38.53 | rjmoore1 | humm |
| 19:39.00 | uvstudios | oh sorry guys i thought you were talking to me |
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| 19:39.03 | rjmoore1 | netstat -n |
| 19:39.12 | nsadmin | uvstudios: ok, so you'd have to tell the router to forward the appropriate ftp ports to .101 |
| 19:39.16 | rjmoore1 | in konsole?? |
| 19:39.21 | hkserp101 | not here but in the console |
| 19:40.08 | uvstudios | oh okay, so if i want my ftp server to be seen from the outside where people can upload files to it, would i assign the 69.129.1.89 to one port? |
| 19:40.16 | uvstudios | and then have the ftp server open on the router |
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| 19:40.27 | rjmoore1 | you can see my ports?? |
| 19:41.18 | nsadmin | can see my sports! |
| 19:41.19 | hkserp101 | i dont have time for port scanning, i got issues of my own |
| 19:41.29 | Eulex | uvstudios, how is all this related to debian? try #networking |
| 19:41.43 | uvstudios | oh well i didnt know, thanks guys i'll leave you alone |
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| 19:41.56 | uvstudios | i didnt know there was such a channel i appreciate your help thank you! |
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| 19:41.58 | hkserp101 | uvstudios: u gotta port foreward to ur ftp box from the gateway |
| 19:41.59 | rjmoore1 | sure but... is it the fact that im in a irc chat that allows this?? |
| 19:42.08 | nsadmin | uvstudios: I think ports 20 and 21 for ftp... |
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| 19:42.25 | hkserp101 | 21 is the standard ftp port |
| 19:42.26 | Eulex | nsadmin, that's correct |
| 19:42.27 | nsadmin | but NOTE, the original ftp protocol is not secure |
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| 19:42.31 | rjmoore1 | i know about ftp ports |
| 19:42.38 | uvstudios | ya it is, ones for incoming and outgoing |
| 19:42.54 | Stathol | No, one is for control (command channel) and the other is for data |
| 19:42.56 | rjmoore1 | but how did you come to the conclusion that i dont have a friewalll |
| 19:42.58 | uvstudios | with ftp i'm doing tls and also tunneling it through SSH to make sure everything is secure |
| 19:43.02 | hkserp101 | trying not to smile, but what the hell, lol |
| 19:43.17 | Stathol | But it gets wonky when you start talking about PASV vs active. |
| 19:43.18 | hkserp101 | yeah, 20 for incoming connections and 21 for outgoing connections |
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| 19:43.24 | macman_ | question .. i took a video and it is upside down .. there any kind of software that will flip it so i can have a widescreen/pan scan ? |
| 19:43.37 | nsadmin | rjmoore1: there's definitely a router near you |
| 19:43.37 | uvstudios | thanks guys i'm gonna go to the networking channel and figure some things out |
| 19:43.45 | rjmoore1 | ok |
| 19:43.47 | uvstudios | nsadmin you are great thanks for all your help man |
| 19:43.53 | rjmoore1 | sure |
| 19:43.56 | nsadmin | also for iptables you can try #netfilter |
| 19:44.00 | Eulex | macman_, I'm afraid that requires you to re-encode it. but mencoder can do that. |
| 19:44.08 | uvstudios | thank you |
| 19:44.14 | nsadmin | uvstudios before you go... |
| 19:44.16 | rjmoore1 | theres nothing on this system anyway |
| 19:44.28 | rjmoore1 | i just installed it an hour ago |
| 19:44.35 | nsadmin | I'm going to pile on some reading that I noticed you might appreciate... |
| 19:44.59 | nsadmin | one thing you should do is become familiar with the dirs off of / |
| 19:45.03 | rjmoore1 | can yall tell that i dont have a firewall?? |
| 19:45.10 | nsadmin | and what the purpose of each is |
| 19:45.30 | uvstudios | yes i agree i've got some system admin books i've been reading through them |
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| 19:46.10 | nsadmin | also, I don't know how well you know the shell you're using, but if not very well, you should definitely study it |
| 19:46.31 | nsadmin | if you use bash, there's an orielly book called learning the bash shell |
| 19:46.39 | Stathol | Google "Filesystem Hierarchy Standard". It makes linux slightly less WTF if you're coming from Windows :P |
| 19:46.59 | uvstudios | no i will i defiantely agree with you, there so much to learn here, can you recommend any good books to read or resources to read, to help me out? |
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| 19:47.03 | uvstudios | #network |
| 19:47.08 | nsadmin | uvstudios: oh, good, I was going to suggest "Essential System Administration" |
| 19:47.52 | nsadmin | !fundamentals |
| 19:47.53 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ |
| 19:48.11 | macman_ | Eulex any options or command i can issue to mencoder to flip the video ? |
| 19:48.49 | Eulex | macman_, I'm not that familiar with it, you can probably do that -- see the man page |
| 19:49.04 | uvstudios | i'll have to read that, i'll look it up right now and get it for myself |
| 19:49.26 | uvstudios | i'm actually on centos but that have horrible support so i come to all the other guys to get some help |
| 19:49.32 | nsadmin | there are some old documents on networking and iptables known as "rusty's unreliable guides |
| 19:49.39 | nsadmin | " |
| 19:49.47 | hkserp101 | lol |
| 19:49.53 | nsadmin | you'd have to google for those |
| 19:50.06 | uvstudios | i'm sure there has to be a good resource out there, i go to school at college so i have acess to a whole ebook collection |
| 19:50.11 | nsadmin | but it seems you know your network pretty well |
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| 19:50.29 | uvstudios | thank god, i dont know linux at all, |
| 19:50.40 | uvstudios | thats my problem, iptables over my head |
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| 19:50.56 | nsadmin | find rusty's guides |
| 19:51.16 | uvstudios | okay that sounds awesome and i'll look up that book you said to read, i appreciate all your help |
| 19:51.16 | nsadmin | and again, yuou don't have to deal with iptables rules yourself |
| 19:51.31 | uvstudios | i dont? is there some kind of application that can help me? |
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| 19:52.08 | nsadmin | you could build your own firewall by installing debian on a box with two nics, set those nics up and install the package ipmasq |
| 19:52.37 | nsadmin | ipmasq does the fake IP thing |
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| 19:52.59 | maligor | SNAT you mean |
| 19:53.28 | nsadmin | I do... but I'm also considering my audience when I speak :) |
| 19:53.57 | uvstudios | oh so that would basically be my router and i would just need to use a switch for my computers correct? |
| 19:54.01 | ustunozgur | Hi, I have ia32-apt-get version 22, but it keeps saying ia32-libs requires ia32-apt-get >= 21 which is not going to be installed. I think this is related to this recent discussion here, http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-development/326298-ia32-libs-depends-ia32-apt-get-5.html , is there any progress on that? |
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| 19:54.13 | ustunozgur | I'm running sid btw. |
| 19:54.26 | nsadmin | uvstudios yes. |
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| 19:55.01 | uvstudios | wow awesome, i should definately look into that, what about firewall builder |
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| 19:55.05 | uvstudios | have you guys heard of that before? |
| 19:55.11 | nsadmin | ustunozgur: you bought dependency hell^Wproblems when you installed sid |
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| 19:56.02 | ustunozgur | nsadmin, yes, but I had never experienced anything like this before. The package is installed, yet it claims it is not. |
| 19:56.32 | carpetkiss | uvstudios:its worth doing for fun,but with routers being so cheap now its easier to use one - basically most are linux appliances running iptables & ipmasq anyway |
| 19:56.49 | nsadmin | that's what ipmasq is, it "calculates" the firewall based on your interfaces, which implies you have to set the interfaces up -- ips and routing -- first |
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| 19:57.55 | uvstudios | i will definately set one up it will help me out with learning some things about iptables |
| 19:58.00 | uvstudios | or at least routing in general |
| 19:58.10 | jelly | ustunozgur: it's sid, breakage is only to be expected |
| 19:58.22 | uvstudios | i found the book you recommended, i'm gonna start reading it right now |
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| 19:58.40 | nsadmin | which one? |
| 19:58.54 | nsadmin | I actually recommended two |
| 19:58.54 | uvstudios | essentail system administration |
| 19:59.01 | jelly | ustunozgur: they seem to be doing quite a reorganization of biarch/multiarch related packages at present time |
| 19:59.07 | nsadmin | oh good, also "learning the bash shell" |
| 19:59.19 | uvstudios | i'll have to find that one too |
| 19:59.34 | uvstudios | i went to the netfilter channel and no one responded to my questions |
| 19:59.43 | uvstudios | its a really quick one, but its not related here really |
| 19:59.51 | ustunozgur | jelly, ok, thanks anyway, it seems that the problem should be solved in future updates. |
| 20:00.10 | uvstudios | its about making the computer discoverable to the outside like giving it an ip adress like 89.18,67,167 |
| 20:00.29 | uvstudios | i can just assign this to the second nic card on my server and connect it to the router |
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| 20:00.42 | nsadmin | you'd need more IPs to do that |
| 20:00.48 | uvstudios | as long as its my modems adress i should be able to access it from the outside |
| 20:01.12 | uvstudios | thats what i was thinking, if i gave it my modems adress is should be able to test it to see if its up and working |
| 20:01.19 | nsadmin | that IP is being used for your masq connection |
| 20:01.33 | uvstudios | oh so it wont work will it? |
| 20:01.48 | uvstudios | i'd have to buy static ip adresses correct? |
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| 20:01.59 | nsadmin | well at minimum it would be complex |
| 20:02.14 | uvstudios | oh okay, i'm soon moving over to my dads work with t1 |
| 20:02.14 | nsadmin | can you get a block of IPs? |
| 20:02.24 | uvstudios | and they have 3 static ips available |
| 20:02.42 | nsadmin | this is one machine? |
| 20:02.48 | uvstudios | so i'm gonna put my webserver on one of those, but i'm just trying to figure out how to do it or the right way of setting it up |
| 20:03.05 | uvstudios | well my webserver is one machine but i have a few others to handle my storage network |
| 20:03.15 | uvstudios | that are just mounted to the webserver |
| 20:03.16 | nsadmin | be careful here... |
| 20:03.34 | uvstudios | what should i be careful on? |
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| 20:03.48 | nsadmin | you want your dad to keep his job :) |
| 20:04.06 | uvstudios | oh ya i know that, he owns his own company so |
| 20:04.16 | uvstudios | its the boss of what happens there so i wont have any problems |
| 20:04.20 | nsadmin | oh, hard to fire then |
| 20:04.32 | uvstudios | yep exactly, i'm lucky that i got the hook up from him |
| 20:04.56 | uvstudios | but essentially i just need another nic and assign the static ip adress to it and the dns servers and i should be set pretty much? |
| 20:05.12 | nsadmin | you don't need another nic |
| 20:05.13 | dutchfish | in lenny i discovered when using smbpasswd to add user to dbbackend (password sync = no in smb.conf) and removing the unix user account, adding a new unix user account uses the same ID for other user, not being able the alter/give password with smbpasswd unless manually removed directly in the backend table, is this oncsidered to be a bugg? |
| 20:05.32 | uvstudios | i can just have a second ip adress on the eth0 correct? |
| 20:05.42 | nsadmin | yes you can |
| 20:06.08 | uvstudios | okay awesome, so i just need to forward that ip adress on my router correct? |
| 20:06.15 | uvstudios | so people can connect to it? |
| 20:06.31 | nsadmin | in your present situation the external IP is not available on the inside of the router |
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| 20:06.53 | uvstudios | no its not, my router just uses that ip to connect to the internet |
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| 20:07.02 | nsadmin | right |
| 20:07.21 | nsadmin | are we talking about now, or about when you connect at your dad's work? |
| 20:07.38 | uvstudios | at my dad's work, here it will be to complex |
| 20:07.55 | nsadmin | you wouldn't need the router at all in that case |
| 20:08.05 | uvstudios | i'm going to need to buy static ips from comcast and thats gets the bill up 25 dollars a month |
| 20:08.09 | uvstudios | oh really |
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| 20:08.31 | McL0VIN | !postfix |
| 20:08.31 | dpkg | Postfix is a <MTA> originally created as an alternative to <sendmail>. It aims to be fast, secure, easy to administer and (relatively) sendmail compatible. Kyle Dent's Postfix FAQ: http://www.seaglass.com/postfix/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix http://www.postfix.org/ #postfix on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:08.31 | uvstudios | u just set up the ip adress as the the static one |
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| 20:08.35 | nsadmin | if it's one machine, just connect it |
| 20:08.38 | uvstudios | and use that |
| 20:08.51 | uvstudios | well what happens if i need to have my storage brick connected on to it internall |
| 20:08.56 | uvstudios | i would want to use a router then correct? |
| 20:09.17 | uvstudios | and just assign the ip adress to the nic |
| 20:09.26 | nsadmin | well probably, if the storage brick is a network device |
| 20:09.31 | uvstudios | then tell the router to forward the ports that i need |
| 20:09.41 | AlteKiet | exit |
| 20:09.42 | nsadmin | but you can also put a second nic in your server |
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| 20:09.59 | uvstudios | i have one of those lying around thats why i figured it would probably be easiest |
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| 20:10.35 | uvstudios | but if i did just connect it, i would need to make sure the firewall is setup correctly on the server |
| 20:10.35 | WindowSmasher | Why can't I get into ubuntu lol |
| 20:10.43 | WindowSmasher | The room wont load |
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| 20:13.15 | McL0VIN | i have never setup email before, how can i setup and run postfix? is there is a prerequisites knowledge required? |
| 20:13.39 | valdyn | McL0VIN: aptitude install postfix |
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| 20:14.10 | McL0VIN | valdyn: and after that i will be able to send emails! |
| 20:14.14 | Stathol | Like anything net related, it would help to know basic TCP/IP networking |
| 20:14.22 | valdyn | McL0VIN: you dont need postfix to send mails |
| 20:14.37 | cmyers_work | McL0VIN: the debian distribution of postfix is VERY good - much less setup is required then usual - but postfix is a very complicated app with lots of deep knowledge necessary. If you want to do anything beyond the most basic MTA stuff, expect to do some learning. |
| 20:15.13 | McL0VIN | cmyers_work: were should i start |
| 20:15.16 | cmyers_work | and what valdyn says is true, postfix is for people who want to run an ISP or do complicated stuff. If you just want to send emails, it is overkill |
| 20:15.18 | McL0VIN | !MTA |
| 20:15.18 | dpkg | somebody said mta was Mail Transfer Agent: a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/lib/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>. |
| 20:15.49 | valdyn | McL0VIN: just install it an use a smarthost, thats one of the predefined settings you will be prompted to select |
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| 20:16.00 | valdyn | McL0VIN: dont bother doing something advanced.. |
| 20:16.18 | cmyers_work | McL0VIN: exim is the default MTA on debian, and it works pretty well too. |
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| 20:16.28 | ChadStat | postfix > exim |
| 20:16.38 | dutchfish | McL0VIN, bear in mind that many ISPs block outgoing port 25 traffic ... |
| 20:16.41 | valdyn | ChadStat: bullshit |
| 20:16.56 | cmyers_work | ChadStat: it depends on what you are trying to do. I use postfix on my linode to run my email, but I use exim as a simple MTA on my desktops. |
| 20:16.59 | valdyn | McL0VIN: you should already have exim btw, and might aswell leave it at that |
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| 20:17.43 | carpetkiss | McLOVIN: is it just your email, or do you have users? |
| 20:17.45 | ChadStat | I'm running a machine with a ton of email users on it |
| 20:18.03 | cmyers_work | ChadStat: that would be the usecase I would use postfix for =) |
| 20:18.16 | cmyers_work | "right tool for the job", and all of that. |
| 20:18.40 | valdyn | cmyers_work: using exim because its simple is kind of funny |
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| 20:19.09 | ChadStat | heh, I just like the whole sql configuration thing. |
| 20:19.28 | cmyers_work | not just because it is simple - it probably isn't simple, but debian installs it by default, the default config "just works", and I have found no reason to switch, that is why I run exim on most of my boxes |
| 20:19.47 | cmyers_work | the reality is I don't send much email that way though, I use mutt on a remote box to read and write email. |
| 20:19.54 | Flomar | postfix is very good |
| 20:19.57 | McL0VIN | valdyn: Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) what is that? |
| 20:20.04 | ChadStat | I normally uninstall exim the second I can |
| 20:20.13 | valdyn | McL0VIN: this is a debian support channel |
| 20:20.15 | ChadStat | Its either sendmail or postfix |
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| 20:20.34 | valdyn | McL0VIN: you can better use wikipedia for questions like that |
| 20:20.46 | Flomar | wow |
| 20:21.12 | Flomar | McL0VIN, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt |
| 20:21.15 | Flomar | read the rfc |
| 20:21.48 | McL0VIN | valdyn: oh, so you don't know what it means? |
| 20:21.55 | McL0VIN | Flomar: thank you sir! |
| 20:22.43 | valdyn | McL0VIN: right |
| 20:22.51 | Stathol | Read IETF RFCs....eat broken glass....so hard to choose! |
| 20:22.57 | Flomar | kk |
| 20:23.04 | Flomar | broken glass with glue |
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| 20:23.33 | McL0VIN | valdyn: so you suggest i use exim |
| 20:23.59 | valdyn | McL0VIN: not really, i suggest you stick with the default, wich just is exim incidentally |
| 20:24.13 | Stathol | Heh. RFCs certainly come in handy, but...yeah. Definitely not exciting reading :P |
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| 20:24.39 | McL0VIN | valdyn: ok, so how do i know which one i have |
| 20:24.52 | McL0VIN | 'dpkg -l exim |
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| 20:25.27 | lafrance | g'day all |
| 20:25.31 | valdyn | McL0VIN: or aptitude -s install postfix and watch what would be removed |
| 20:25.50 | valdyn | McL0VIN: ( can only have one mta ) |
| 20:25.53 | McL0VIN | ok, i have exim4 4.63-17 <- dpkg -l output |
| 20:26.04 | McL0VIN | valdyn: ok, understood |
| 20:27.05 | valdyn | McL0VIN: you can use "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" to chose one of the basic setups |
| 20:27.14 | valdyn | McL0VIN: you should probably let it handle local mail only |
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| 20:27.50 | tango_ | hello all. is there a way to tell aptitude to NOT install some packages (and obviously packages that depend on it) during a safe-upgrade? I tried putting the packages on hold, but apparently this is ignored by safe-upgrade |
| 20:28.24 | McL0VIN | valdyn: http://pastebin.ca/1491085 |
| 20:29.01 | valdyn | McL0VIN: so? |
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| 20:29.35 | valdyn | McL0VIN: -s means simulate only, nothing happens |
| 20:29.59 | McL0VIN | valdyn: you are making it hard on me :) |
| 20:30.16 | McL0VIN | valdyn: so remove exim4 and install postfix or no :) |
| 20:30.27 | McL0VIN | confused |
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| 20:30.45 | valdyn | McL0VIN: that was only a method to see which mta is installed |
| 20:30.53 | valdyn | McL0VIN: not a method to replace exim |
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| 20:31.14 | McL0VIN | valdyn: please forgive my ignorance |
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| 20:33.04 | genoobie | hey |
| 20:33.44 | `1 | cheers guys.. 1 quick question.. how can i host my own web site on my lenny box? and do i still have to rent/buy/register a domain name? |
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| 20:34.44 | McL0VIN | `1: apache and use redirect |
| 20:34.46 | junk | depends |
| 20:34.51 | junk | you can use your ip ^^ |
| 20:35.02 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: you don't *need* a domain name |
| 20:35.13 | `1 | McL0VIN, i have apache 2 installed mysql php bind9.. |
| 20:35.25 | `1 | i need to know how can i setup the config files |
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| 20:35.33 | `1 | i have also a dynamic ip |
| 20:35.46 | McL0VIN | `1: that looks like apache question to me! |
| 20:35.56 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: me too - I have apache2, PHP, etc and I have a domain name witha free dns service |
| 20:36.03 | `1 | McL0VIN, what has apache to do with domain name? |
| 20:36.05 | McL0VIN | `1: check no-ip.org |
| 20:36.27 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: you can deal with a dynamic IP - I do ;) |
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| 20:36.37 | McL0VIN | `1: if you know the answer then why bother to ask |
| 20:36.47 | `1 | McL0VIN, i need to set up bid |
| 20:36.49 | `1 | bind* |
| 20:36.53 | McL0VIN | jpinx-eeepc: have you tried no-ip |
| 20:36.55 | `1 | i never used before |
| 20:37.02 | jpinx-eeepc | McL0VIN: yea - it sux |
| 20:37.15 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: you don't need bind |
| 20:37.19 | McL0VIN | jpinx-eeepc: why, i never had any issue with them |
| 20:37.20 | cantido | `1: CNAME to DynDNS or something.. |
| 20:37.44 | `1 | i want my own domain name ..not a pre-existent one like homelinux.org |
| 20:38.07 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: depends on how dynamic your IP actually is - but I just do mine manually with one of the free dns services |
| 20:38.15 | McL0VIN | `1: you will have to pay for it |
| 20:38.28 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: my system is free ;) |
| 20:38.33 | `1 | McL0VIN, that`s what i needed to know.. so i have to pay for it |
| 20:38.45 | Stathol | `1: In that case, you'll need to register a domain name, but you don't have to provide the name servers for it unless you want to. |
| 20:38.51 | genoobie | hey, I'm trying to config my eth0 interface, in debian, I'm having probs |
| 20:39.05 | cantido | `1: 1 buy domain, 2 make sure the main record is static, 3 add a subdomain with a CNAME to a dyndns provider.. |
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| 20:39.21 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: you read what I told you? |
| 20:39.30 | `1 | cantido, thanks..it makes sense now |
| 20:39.44 | McL0VIN | `1: unless there is a way you can pick your own domain name and have all the authoritative DNS server know about it |
| 20:40.17 | cantido | McL0VIN: um,... that's what registrars are for |
| 20:40.26 | `1 | jpinx-eeepc, i want to have my own domain name.. like e.g www.jpinx-eeepc.org "just an example" |
| 20:40.36 | `1 | do you understand what i want? |
| 20:40.44 | cantido | `1: just buy one then |
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| 20:40.54 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: ok - you will need to register the domain name - but everything else is free if you do it right |
| 20:41.18 | `1 | so i still have to register a domain name ok.. :) |
| 20:41.29 | drasko | what is the best way to see a hex number in decimal format on a command line? |
| 20:41.32 | McL0VIN | no way arround it |
| 20:41.34 | McL0VIN | :) |
| 20:41.44 | valdyn | `1: theres plenty subdomains available for free |
| 20:41.47 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: unless you can make do with a subdomain of one of the free services |
| 20:41.53 | genoobie | ermph |
| 20:42.00 | genoobie | I'm trying to install pdfedit |
| 20:42.04 | genoobie | my eth1 is fine now |
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| 20:42.11 | genoobie | but it can't find the pkg |
| 20:42.11 | `1 | valdyn, i am aware of it.. i don`t just want a subdomain..i have lots of them at dyndns |
| 20:42.16 | genoobie | how can I isntall? |
| 20:42.20 | genoobie | install that is |
| 20:42.29 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions pdfedit |
| 20:42.30 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: pdfedit -- etch-backports: 0.4.1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.4.1-2 sid: 0.4.2-4 squeeze: 0.4.2-4 |
| 20:42.49 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: aptitude install pdfedit |
| 20:42.55 | genoobie | okay |
| 20:42.55 | cantido | `1: if the target machine is on a dynamic IP you'll have to do some work arounds, but you should be able to make it work |
| 20:43.11 | genoobie | jpinx-eeepc, cmd not found |
| 20:43.20 | genoobie | I tried apt-get install pdfedit |
| 20:43.33 | genoobie | said coudln't find pkg |
| 20:43.34 | `1 | :))) |
| 20:43.49 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: for example I am on a adsl that only changes the IP if I go offline, so I do it manually and that is totally free |
| 20:43.52 | trollboy | I've got an application that requires another application (and writes to that app's config file) and runs out of /etc/init.d (with start/stop/restart) can I package it as a deb? To auto-require the previous app, and then chmod the conf file and place my script in the init.d directory? |
| 20:43.59 | trollboy | or is there some other magic for doing it |
| 20:44.01 | genoobie | urgh... |
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| 20:44.08 | genoobie | I hate pdf's |
| 20:44.18 | genoobie | send me an rtf any day |
| 20:44.21 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: output of cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:44.32 | genoobie | jpinx hold |
| 20:44.46 | genoobie | jpinx-eeepc, 4.0 |
| 20:45.04 | cantido | jpinx-eeepc: I think he could just use a url record in his root, and then a cname to a dyndns.. no need to pay for anything :) |
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| 20:45.33 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: you are in Etch - and unless you have some pressing reason to be in Ethc you should upgrade to Lenny |
| 20:45.48 | genoobie | yeah, it;s a live cd |
| 20:45.58 | genoobie | honestly I'm just trying to edit a PDF |
| 20:46.10 | genoobie | and there's no free tool for windows |
| 20:46.23 | `1 | the beauty of MS OSs :)) |
| 20:46.28 | drasko | what is the best way to see a hex number in decimal format on a command line? |
| 20:46.29 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: you can't install onto a live cd |
| 20:46.46 | genoobie | oh...well there you go then...not even on the ramdisk? |
| 20:46.54 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: install debian and make a job of it;) |
| 20:46.56 | cantido | thought most free software was ported to windows.. |
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| 20:47.04 | `1 | i was able to install some apps on DSL onto ramdisk :) |
| 20:47.07 | `1 | via apt |
| 20:47.20 | genoobie | '1 that's what I'm talkin' about |
| 20:47.24 | genoobie | but it can't find the ap |
| 20:47.27 | genoobie | *app |
| 20:47.31 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions pdfedit |
| 20:47.32 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: pdfedit -- etch-backports: 0.4.1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.4.1-2 sid: 0.4.2-4 squeeze: 0.4.2-4 |
| 20:47.32 | `1 | you need to add repos |
| 20:47.40 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: ^^ |
| 20:47.40 | genoobie | '1 tips? |
| 20:47.48 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: pdf isn't in etch |
| 20:48.01 | genoobie | oh... |
| 20:48.04 | genoobie | I see |
| 20:48.07 | genoobie | 4.1 |
| 20:48.16 | jpinx-eeepc | genoobie: I say again - install debian :P |
| 20:48.21 | `1 | add lenny peros in /etc/apt after run update and do a search of the package |
| 20:48.25 | `1 | repos* |
| 20:48.40 | genoobie | nah...too much trouble, I'll print and scan and then fax... |
| 20:48.43 | genoobie | tx! |
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| 20:49.30 | jpinx-eeepc | they don't even have faxing software in windows? :-/ |
| 20:49.41 | `1 | jpinx-eeepc, tey do :) |
| 20:49.44 | `1 | they* |
| 20:49.55 | jpinx-eeepc | I thought they did |
| 20:50.15 | jpinx-eeepc | maybe he has bigger issues than editing a pdf;) |
| 20:50.25 | `1 | who knows :D |
| 20:50.46 | `1 | does anyone use ext4? |
| 20:50.52 | GreesMunkie | Fax is so 1920's ;-) |
| 20:50.53 | `1 | any advantages? |
| 20:51.04 | jpinx-eeepc | !ext4 |
| 20:51.04 | dpkg | [ext4] Fourth extended file system. Adds features such as support for volumes up to one exabyte (1024 petabytes) and extents. Support for ext4 filesystem features included in 'e2fsprogs' since 1.41~WIP-2008-06-17-1. Merged into mainline kernel, available in 2.6.28 and later. Ask me about <ext3->ext4> and <ext4->ext3>. Not supported by GRUB Legacy. http://wiki.debian.org/Ext4 http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ #ext4 on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:51.05 | cantido | `1: wait a year or so |
| 20:51.13 | adb | !ext4 |
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| 20:51.30 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: stop that!! :) |
| 20:51.34 | `1 | still buggy? |
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| 20:52.17 | jpinx-eeepc | !ext3->ext4 |
| 20:52.35 | jpinx-eeepc | pokes dpkg |
| 20:52.46 | adb | jpinx-eeepc: stop that!! :) |
| 20:52.51 | jpinx-eeepc | !dead |
| 20:52.51 | dpkg | yes :( |
| 20:52.51 | `1 | :)) |
| 20:53.04 | jpinx-eeepc | dpkg wake up |
| 20:53.05 | dpkg | jpinx-eeepc: I'm already awake! :) |
| 20:53.20 | jpinx-eeepc | !ext3->ext4 |
| 20:53.34 | jpinx-eeepc | !dpkg ext3->ext4 |
| 20:53.34 | dpkg | To enable <ext4> features on an existing unmounted <ext3> file system (kernel 2.6.28 or later required): 'tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/hda1' (where hda1 is the partition containing the ext3 file system), then 'e2fsck -fD /dev/hda1' to fix modified on-disk structures. Don't forget to modify /etc/fstab and specify ext4 for the file system. Some ext4 features (e.g. flex_bg) can only be enabled during format via mke2fs. |
| 20:53.38 | adb | jpinx-eeepc: can't do it |
| 20:53.47 | jpinx-eeepc | bloody-minded bot ! |
| 20:54.03 | GreesMunkie | wasn't btrfs positioned to "overtake" ext4 even though being slightly behind in development? |
| 20:54.36 | `1 | hmm..but did anyone actually used the ext4 fs until now? |
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| 20:54.38 | MrWax | what is the best way of completely deleting a user? apart from 'userdel user' and 'rm -rf /home/userdir' ? |
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| 20:55.00 | `1 | isrm -rf without any arguments :)) |
| 20:55.02 | stew | GreesMunkie: btrfs was positioned to replace reiser4 for people that want such a thing |
| 20:55.16 | MrWax | isrm -rf? |
| 20:55.24 | `1 | rm -rf |
| 20:55.30 | `1 | joke |
| 20:55.32 | poisonbit | MrWax, check for crontabs of the user, and files in the disk owned by the user |
| 20:55.42 | petemc | MrWax: deluser |
| 20:55.45 | hikenboot | anyone know where i can find a working grub2 config for xen ? I have searched high and low and the only example i have found causes error "dom0 kernel not specified which this code /* Check that we have at least one Multiboot module. */ if ( !(mbi->flags & MBI_MODULES) || (mbi->mods_count == 0) ) says is printed when a module line isnt specified ...in my configs which i can show there is two module lines specified |
| 20:55.49 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: you realise that "home" serving needs dsl or it is painfully slow? |
| 20:56.15 | `1 | you mean my net connection? |
| 20:56.17 | `1 | o..? |
| 20:56.19 | `1 | or* |
| 20:56.29 | GreesMunkie | stew: but aren't reiser4 and ext4 are offering more or less the same feature set and performance improvements? |
| 20:56.45 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: yes - the connection to the internet |
| 20:56.48 | MrWax | poisonbit: like? |
| 20:56.51 | `1 | 7 mb/s down/up |
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| 20:57.01 | GreesMunkie | apart from that reiser4 is perhaps not such a good choice maybe due to the recent happenings at Namesys |
| 20:57.11 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: I am on adsl and it's painful - but it's only family and friends ;) |
| 20:57.19 | southernc | why does the link to debian netinstall not work |
| 20:57.21 | southernc | ? |
| 20:57.31 | `1 | jpinx-eeepc, look i only need to set up a web site for a trivia channel |
| 20:57.33 | `1 | that`s all |
| 20:57.53 | cantido | jpinx-eeepc: do you only have 512kbit up or something? |
| 20:57.59 | poisonbit | MrWax, the user may has his own crontab (crontab -e) and is stored in: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ |
| 20:58.18 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: it's a breeze - I'd use zoneedit or dyndns or everydns or somesuch |
| 20:58.30 | poisonbit | MrWax, and to search for files with the $UID or $GID of the deleted user, use find |
| 20:58.50 | jpinx-eeepc | cantido: yes - slow up is the problem, but I out source images ;) |
| 20:58.52 | `1 | yeah.. maybe you`re right.. too much fuss :) |
| 20:59.42 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: that speed of connection indicates an IP that won't change often |
| 20:59.46 | stew | GreesMunkie: btrfs and reiser4 are implemented similarly as being a b-tree filesystems |
| 20:59.57 | `1 | actually it does so..at every reboot |
| 21:00.00 | `1 | of the modem |
| 21:00.06 | `1 | or pc |
| 21:00.20 | cantido | I'm on 50Mb or something, changes everytime I restart pppd |
| 21:00.26 | adb | `1: for light server i use lighttpd instead apache |
| 21:00.28 | jpinx-eeepc | `1: I haven't rebboted either for months ;) |
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| 21:00.37 | McL0VIN | valdyn: i am confused a little bit. what do i need to be able to use exim4 to send and receive emails? if i can ssh to my box using name.no-ip.org |
| 21:00.55 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: I need to look at that - though apach2 seems to be no hassle |
| 21:01.03 | `1 | adb, does the same job.. + that i have enough ram :) |
| 21:01.06 | McL0VIN | valdyn: will my email handler be something@name.no-ip.org |
| 21:01.14 | stew | GreesMunkie: ext4 and btrfs are written by the same guy. btrfs is his answer to "why isn't reiser4 in linux yet" |
| 21:01.18 | cantido | McL0VIN: you need to be able to set MX records for that subdomain |
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| 21:02.08 | cantido | McL0VIN: then configure exim to accept mail for that domain, and install dovecot or similar so that you can collect the mail remotely |
| 21:02.24 | jpinx-eeepc | cantido: I don't think you need the full exim thing - just a lightweight mailserver like ssmtp |
| 21:03.01 | adb | jpinx-eeepc: just install it , and put in /var/www/ what you want , a link is enough , sure delete the index page |
| 21:03.02 | cantido | jpinx-eeepc: exim ain't too hard to get working though, the debconf script is pretty good |
| 21:03.23 | jpinx-eeepc | cantido: exim beat me :-/ |
| 21:03.56 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: ok - I'll take a look - but I already hace apache and php working well |
| 21:04.05 | McL0VIN | cantido: so where should i start please, setup the MX 1st or exim4 or what |
| 21:04.06 | cantido | exim is really nice, I'm not sure why people insist on installing postfix all the time.. |
| 21:04.37 | cantido | McL0VIN: you have to have an MX record in that subdomain that points to the server thats going to process the mail |
| 21:04.47 | jpinx-eeepc | cantido: it's all a matter of opinion - I found postfix easier~ |
| 21:05.12 | cantido | McL0VIN: if that server is on a consumer ISP make sure you can actually get incoming connections on port 25 |
| 21:05.14 | McL0VIN | cantido: how can i set that up |
| 21:05.35 | cantido | McL0VIN: depends on who/what is running your dns |
| 21:05.47 | MrWax | poisonbit: oki thanks |
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| 21:06.31 | McL0VIN | cantido: no-ip.org |
| 21:06.35 | lafrance | command for install php and mysql is apt-get install php? |
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| 21:06.42 | cantido | jpinx-eeepc: took about a day to get exim installed on 3 machines and get them all using LDAP lookups to route mail to the right place, but it works like a charm :) |
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| 21:07.08 | jpinx-eeepc | postfix took about 30 minutes for me ;) |
| 21:07.13 | cantido | McL0VIN: you'll have to see if no-ip.org will let you do that then |
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| 21:08.17 | `1 | ok guys.. thanks for your help.. have a nice day/night .. by the case :) bye |
| 21:08.32 | McL0VIN | cantido: what do you use? |
| 21:09.02 | McL0VIN | jpinx-eeepc: which DNS you use with postfix |
| 21:09.03 | cantido | McL0VIN: personal stuff.. maradns, work stuff is PowerDNS + LDAP |
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| 21:09.34 | cantido | McL0VIN: mail and dns are two different things.. you need MX records in your dns zones so that mail servers know where to send mail though |
| 21:09.45 | jpinx-eeepc | McL0VIN: there is no relationship between your dns and your mail server package |
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| 21:10.02 | MalaFide | !tell lafrance about install php |
| 21:10.16 | lafrance | found it thank you :) |
| 21:10.20 | lafrance | php5 |
| 21:10.49 | McL0VIN | can someone explain this to me please <---MX record |
| 21:11.11 | cantido | McL0VIN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record |
| 21:11.13 | jpinx-eeepc | McL0VIN: maybe you need to read up about dns |
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| 21:12.02 | cantido | McL0VIN: also, you need more than one mail server if you rely on mail getting to you |
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| 21:12.24 | MalaFide | cantido, a MX record is not mandatory |
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| 21:13.42 | cantido | MalaFide: Where do MTA's connect if there isn't one? A? |
| 21:14.15 | MalaFide | yes |
| 21:14.53 | cantido | RFC5321 :) |
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| 21:15.32 | cantido | MalaFide: Probably best that he understands it a bit more before he sets up another spam spooler though. |
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| 21:17.21 | MalaFide | ^true, tho he has to actively fsck up to turn debian into a relay |
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| 21:17.51 | alsd | hi there |
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| 21:20.00 | MalaFide | good day alsd |
| 21:21.10 | alsd | what's happening? usually #debian is full of people on the begining of the week end |
| 21:21.48 | adb | 947 right now |
| 21:22.02 | dkr | alsd: it's not really a social channel. ask a debian question rather than boring/repetitive greetings and you may get a better response. :) |
| 21:22.06 | niklas | Hey. I'm having some issues getting a machine with software raid to boot. When it loads the initrd, mdadm says: 'mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found.'. However, when it drops into initrd shell, i simply type 'mdadm --assemble /dev/md1' and then it assembles the md1 device and booting works. Any suggestions for a fix to this issue? |
| 21:23.15 | alsd | dkr: i know, just having no particular question yet, and nobody seemed to be asking questions as well. anyway... |
| 21:23.19 | dkr | niklas: do you have kernel options in your /boot/grub/menu.lst such as # kopt=root=/dev/md1 ro |
| 21:23.43 | niklas | dkr: Yes, the machine boots as it should once md1 gets assembled |
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| 21:24.19 | dkr | niklas: does you /etc/mdadm.conf have the devices listed? :) |
| 21:24.44 | cyberjames | Hi everyone. How can I fix this longer problem http://pastebin.com/m6475d92 ? Thanks |
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| 21:25.19 | dkr | niklas: maybe a uuid mismatch, did you do any shuffling/changes of the raid or drives therein? |
| 21:25.31 | niklas | dkr: yes, else it woulndn't be able so assemble it with just 'mdadm --assemble /dev/md1' |
| 21:25.52 | niklas | dkr: no, it does this straight after debian installation |
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| 21:26.24 | Ankleteeth | anyone know of a good open source bandwidth management application/router? something that i can set speed limits, control access, and graph usage with? |
| 21:27.00 | cantido | Ankleteeth: iptables can do that |
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| 21:28.05 | Ankleteeth | how easily though, i havent had much fun in the past working with iptables |
| 21:28.20 | Ankleteeth | was kinda hoping for something that can manage it all from a webpage |
| 21:28.38 | cantido | Ankleteeth: you can get a script to create the rules you need |
| 21:28.40 | dkr | niklas: can't think of anything else obvious. are the disks spinning up/ sometimes there is a delay |
| 21:29.11 | cyberjames | Hi all, this is much clear http://pastebin.ca/1491145 .. Anyone know how to solve this problem? TIA |
| 21:29.29 | Ankleteeth | cantido: anything you can recommend off the top of your head? |
| 21:30.01 | niklas | dkr: yeah, and they are shown to get detected when it boots |
| 21:30.15 | cantido | Ankleteeth: I like firehol for iptables stuff, I'm not sure if it has rate limiting controls.. but it has most things, so it probably does |
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| 21:31.20 | drake__ | hello, do you know why my boot give me inet6 addresses for ever interface when it aint enabled in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:31.36 | Pnux | hey guys, is anybody running Squeeze with KDE4 and using Quanta+? |
| 21:31.58 | simonrvn | !anyone use |
| 21:31.58 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 21:33.22 | simonrvn | !+ask |
| 21:33.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 21:33.58 | niklas | dkr: i suppose mdadm could be trying to assemble array before the disks are ready, but i dont think so. Is there a way to make mdadm wait 5-10 seconds before trying? |
| 21:34.11 | drake__ | can't you answer mine instead? |
| 21:34.25 | Pnux | simonrvn: the thing is, if somebody answers 'yes', thats all i need to know |
| 21:34.33 | dutchfish | hi, how can i make the upper window in debians lenny gitk screen larger (more hight)? |
| 21:34.53 | cantido | drake__: those are autogenerated addresses |
| 21:35.08 | poisonbit | can i automate change of options in: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? |
| 21:35.13 | poisonbit | i need to change only the "internet site" option, in some preseeded instalations |
| 21:35.14 | drake__ | cantido: but I dont want inet6 |
| 21:35.17 | simonrvn | Pnux: heh |
| 21:35.25 | cantido | drake__: disable it then |
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| 21:35.37 | drake__ | cantido: how? |
| 21:35.57 | dkr | niklas: I don't know, sorry |
| 21:36.20 | niklas | dkr: ok thanks anyway :) |
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| 21:36.25 | drake__ | cantido: right now I use an ifconfig eth va del $(sed inet6 alike=) |
| 21:36.26 | poisonbit | answer to my own: http://www.debian-administration.org/users/sphaero/weblog/1 |
| 21:36.48 | cantido | drake__: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 21:37.09 | cantido | drake__: that article suggests just blacklisting the ipv6 modules |
| 21:37.09 | Pnux | simonrvn: i tried to upgrade from lenny to squeeze once, and since squeeze uses KDE4, there were some dependencies problems with Quanta+ which required KDE3. I believe its easier to ask if anybody uses KDE4 and Quanta+, that will most likely indicate that the dependencies has been "fixed". |
| 21:37.29 | simonrvn | Pnux: i'm sure someone, somewhere does.. |
| 21:37.52 | simonrvn | Pnux: ah ok. no idea. |
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| 21:38.26 | adb | dutchfish: right click on top bar >Propriety > fix `Size` case > 23 pixels ? |
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| 21:38.40 | cantido | Pnux: quanta is none installed, none available here.. |
| 21:39.20 | adb | judd: versions quanta |
| 21:39.21 | dutchfish | adb, you mean KDE configuration? |
| 21:39.21 | judd | adb: quanta -- etch: 4:3.5.5-1 etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 4:3.5.9-3 |
| 21:39.32 | mnemonic | hi |
| 21:39.50 | adb | dutchfish: ah , in gnome here |
| 21:39.54 | Pnux | cantido: thanks for the answer.. that blows, it means im either stuck on lenny or on squeeze but without the best web IDE ive tried.. |
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| 21:40.18 | dutchfish | adb, ah found it under special program configuration |
| 21:40.21 | cantido | Pnux: whats wrong with <insert syntax highlighting editor here>? |
| 21:40.29 | dutchfish | adb, thanks |
| 21:40.33 | adb | yw |
| 21:40.50 | niklas | dkr: i love you! I added rootdelay=10 to menu.lst, and then it was working! Thanks loads :D |
| 21:41.05 | Pnux | cantido: nothing wrong with them, but i used way more features than just syntax highlighting |
| 21:41.06 | dkr | niklas: cool |
| 21:41.10 | drake__ | isn't that a sick convention to have to disable it like that? |
| 21:41.59 | Pnux | i have to read a list of web IDEs that will work on KDE4, i might just check the web in case they changed its name or something like that. |
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| 21:42.45 | cantido | Pnux: you mean the dodgy markup bits and bobs quanta does? |
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| 21:43.39 | Pnux | cantido: upload files to server, auto completion, projects management, among othersç |
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| 21:44.11 | cantido | a lot of IDE's will do that |
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| 21:44.16 | MrWax | is there a good way to rename a linux user? |
| 21:44.27 | MrWax | some helptools? or, is this recommednable? |
| 21:44.32 | Milligan | mount: unknown filesystem type 'udf' <- How do I fix? (This is a small alix box running lenny) |
| 21:44.35 | cantido | MrWax: usermod IIRC |
| 21:46.41 | Pnux | cantido: i know, i just have to find one that will suit my needs, which can be quite annoying.. not to mention im kind of scared to upgrade to squeeze because of the KDE4 |
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| 21:47.03 | adb | Milligan: as root , modprobe udf |
| 21:47.11 | craigevil | Pnux: give kompozer a try , quanta + in kde4 is kdewebdev |
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| 21:47.21 | dutchfish | adb, would it be good practise to locate my git repos under /usr/src as i do with kernel and ketchup? |
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| 21:47.28 | Milligan | adb, fixed it by forcing iso9660 fs :) |
| 21:47.38 | helo | filthynoob: OKC? |
| 21:47.45 | Pnux | craigevil: oh, great.. thanks.. ill try that one out as well |
| 21:47.49 | cantido | craigevil: kdewebdev here doesnt depend on quanta.. |
| 21:48.21 | filthynoob | anyone here know of any easy way to burn video DVDs in linux?? |
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| 21:48.33 | cantido | filthynoob: k3b |
| 21:48.34 | filthynoob | I just copied the 'video_ts' folder onto the dvd |
| 21:48.38 | filthynoob | will it work? |
| 21:48.45 | zinx | no |
| 21:48.47 | adb | dutchfish: i dunno |
| 21:48.56 | filthynoob | kk i have k3b |
| 21:49.00 | dutchfish | adb, no problem, thanks |
| 21:49.03 | craigevil | k9copy to copy then kk3b to burn |
| 21:49.11 | Pnux | on a different matter, does anybody know a good software to create music (im not sure how to put that into words aptitude or google would understand, but pretty much like Hydrogen but with other instruments besides drums) |
| 21:49.18 | filthynoob | all i have is the video_ts folder for the dvd |
| 21:49.44 | dutchfish | Pnux, rosegarden and tools? |
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| 21:50.15 | filthynoob | wait i think i got it |
| 21:50.19 | filthynoob | i went to further tools |
| 21:50.30 | zinx | filthynoob: you have to create it as a dvd video, not just data |
| 21:50.31 | filthynoob | and did new video project |
| 21:50.34 | zinx | yeah |
| 21:51.18 | jpinx-eeepc | dutchfish: that needs KDE - is there one that is free-standing? |
| 21:51.26 | Pnux | dutchfish: for what the repo says no.. i dont need an audio editor, i need a music creator |
| 21:52.01 | Pnux | oh god, i mistakenly removed KDE using aptitude.. i guess theres nothing left to do but upgrade to Squeeze |
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| 21:52.22 | dutchfish | hides |
| 21:53.01 | filthynoob | so i just copy the junk out of my video_ts folder into the new dvd project one and burn |
| 21:53.07 | filthynoob | gonna test it in a minute |
| 21:53.43 | adb | Pnux: reinstall kdebase , your pkg/s may be still on your pc |
| 21:54.26 | dutchfish | Pnux, http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ |
| 21:54.58 | Pnux | dutchfish: ohhhhhh, thats exactly what i need, thanks |
| 21:55.07 | filthynoob | that looks pretty cool |
| 21:55.39 | Pnux | adb: im pretty much sure they are, but hey, change is good.. im honestly tired of using "old" versions |
| 21:55.41 | helo | filthynoob: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/Burning_Video_DVDs_in_Linux.html yeah, it looks that way |
| 21:55.54 | dutchfish | Pnux, i use it for years now and nothing could coop with what i do with it |
| 21:56.02 | helo | is wasting time |
| 21:56.38 | Schuenemann | can I use dhcp and opendns, instead of the one from my ISP? /etc/resolv.conf is always rewritten |
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| 21:57.20 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions rosegarden |
| 21:57.21 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: rosegarden -- etch: 1:1.4.0-1 lenny: 1:1.7.0-1 sid: 1:1.7.3-1 squeeze: 1:1.7.3-1 |
| 21:57.21 | drasko | anyone knows good methods to see a number in various formats (decimal, hex, bin) from command line? |
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| 21:58.23 | adb | Pnux: on production better use stable than testing |
| 21:58.35 | dutchfish | nods |
| 21:59.13 | Pnux | this isnt really a production machine, its more like a personal once that is used from time to time to do some simple web deving |
| 21:59.25 | Pnux | s/once/one |
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| 22:01.23 | adb | Pnux: and you just coming asking `where's quanta in squeeze` ... |
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| 22:02.51 | sanmarcos | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward lzsh: file exists: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 22:02.53 | sanmarcos | any ideas? |
| 22:04.41 | craigevil | Schuenemann: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf # append the following line to the document prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220; |
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| 22:05.33 | uvstudios | hey everyone i'm having issues with phpmyadmin on my apache server |
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| 22:05.49 | uvstudios | when i try to go onto the adress it says that it is forbidden |
| 22:05.54 | Schuenemann | craigevil, prepend is part of the line? |
| 22:05.59 | alsd | sanmarcos: 'sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1' maybe. your shell seems like not working correctly |
| 22:06.39 | sanmarcos | does iptables need to be started? |
| 22:06.39 | filthynoob | dammit |
| 22:06.42 | craigevil | Schuenemann: there should be a line that is commented that says prepend just uncomment it and add the opendns servers |
| 22:06.46 | filthynoob | i tried and failed :( |
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| 22:06.52 | e-t | hi |
| 22:06.59 | adb | uvstudios: is a debian system ? |
| 22:07.10 | e-t | I'm searching for an iso of debian sarge |
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| 22:07.13 | filthynoob | i burnt the dvd with k3b |
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| 22:07.27 | e-t | doesn someone know where I can find it? |
| 22:07.29 | filthynoob | but i read in that one thing i need -dvd-compat |
| 22:07.41 | Schuenemann | craigevil, thanks |
| 22:07.44 | filthynoob | in the Settings/Configure K3b.../Programs/User Parameters |
| 22:07.47 | filthynoob | but i don't see it |
| 22:08.00 | dutchfish | e-t, http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 22:08.01 | e-t | debian-web doesn't contain its |
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| 22:08.47 | xsamurai | can somebody help me please, i cant seem to install or update anything http://pastebin.ca/1491185 |
| 22:08.50 | craigevil | e-t: Find old Debian releases at http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 22:08.55 | uvstudios | sorry guys never mind i was able to figure it out |
| 22:09.13 | adb | e-t: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 22:10.20 | e-t | thx |
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| 22:10.47 | adb | xsamurai: etch ? |
| 22:11.04 | xsamurai | adb: yes |
| 22:11.17 | xsamurai | if i can just upgrade libc6 i'd be happy |
| 22:11.32 | filthynoob | kk these are the steps i took |
| 22:11.37 | filthynoob | i opened k3b |
| 22:11.43 | xsamurai | apt-get dist-upgrade, is not helping either |
| 22:11.53 | filthynoob | went to further actions |
| 22:12.02 | filthynoob | and did the start new video dvd project |
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| 22:12.18 | craigevil | xsamurai: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 22:12.30 | adb | dpkg: tell xsamurai about etch->lenny |
| 22:12.33 | FatherTyme | Is there a tool to browse all the packages in a repository without adding it to your sources.list? |
| 22:12.33 | filthynoob | then copied the stuff in my video_ts folder into the one on the k3b app |
| 22:12.45 | filthynoob | then burned it and it didn't work :( |
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| 22:13.07 | FatherTyme | Use case is that I want to look at a repo meant for a different distribution from my machine to confirm package version. |
| 22:13.26 | craigevil | FatherTyme: packages.debian.org |
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| 22:15.06 | FatherTyme | craigevil: This is for a third-party repo. Was wondering if debian shipped with apt repo browsing tools. |
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| 22:17.03 | martianlobster | where can I download images for latest debian distro? |
| 22:18.11 | adb | !get debian |
| 22:18.11 | dpkg | To get Debian, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 22:18.41 | martianlobster | thanks |
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| 22:19.28 | xsamurai | is support for etch finished ? |
| 22:19.38 | adb | not yet |
| 22:20.11 | xsamurai | then I should be able to get the packages I need without upgrading ? |
| 22:20.23 | adb | xsamurai: change `etch` whit `oldstable` in sources list |
| 22:21.05 | xsamurai | thanks adb |
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| 22:23.54 | adb | dpkg: tell xsamurai about oldstable |
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| 22:33.31 | flypiper | how would I tell which CD netinst Image has an installer that works properly when setting the IP manually? Should I ask on the mailing list? |
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| 22:33.59 | dkr | flypiper: what makes you think any of them wouldn't? |
| 22:34.36 | flypiper | I downloaded the i386 image yesterday and today's and they both give me an error and when I go to shell I can't set it manually |
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| 22:35.49 | dkr | uhm, you shouldn't need to go to shell. there is an option during the install process to enter ip manually |
| 22:36.21 | LordVorp | is there something odd about ldconfig or LD_LIBRARY_PATH on lenny? I'm having unexpected troubles with perl Oracle module not being able to locate the oracle.so it was linked against. |
| 22:36.28 | dkr | or maybe i am wrong. haven't done it in a while. but seems crazy to change that |
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| 22:38.41 | flypiper | dkr the enter mode in the installer gives me an error also |
| 22:41.10 | zl_benson | I'm having an issue installing Lenny using software RAID. I created one RAID slice called md0. Inside it is the "/" partition. |
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| 22:41.11 | flypiper | dkr, @ shell .. route statement shows no route |
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| 22:41.28 | zl_benson | When I boot it up I get mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found. |
| 22:42.20 | zl_benson | And then I get ALERT! /dev/md0 does not exist dropping to a shell! |
| 22:42.28 | zl_benson | Any advice? |
| 22:42.45 | adb | add at boot rootdelay=10 |
| 22:43.18 | zl_benson | adb, I'll give that a shot. |
| 22:43.36 | lafrance | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:44.34 | adb | ask here for beginning |
| 22:44.52 | lafrance | ok |
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| 22:46.09 | jesseboy | When trying to start apache2 I get this error: Can't locate Apache/Reload.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../../ /usr/share/otrs/Kernel/cpan-lib /usr/share/otrs/ /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/apache2) at (eval 118) line 3.\n |
| 22:46.18 | jesseboy | anyone know howto fix this? |
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| 22:47.17 | g00se | jesseboy: Try installing libapache2-reload-perl |
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| 22:48.59 | jesseboy | k trying |
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| 22:53.12 | zl_benson | adb, you da man! (or woman) |
| 22:53.15 | zl_benson | It worked. |
| 22:53.24 | zl_benson | Thank you very much. |
| 22:53.38 | adb | yw |
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| 22:54.08 | shivraj | hi is there a way to improve mouse respone in gnome ? |
| 22:54.20 | shivraj | besides setting threshold and acceleration ? |
| 22:54.27 | dkr | shivraj: there is a setting in prefs somewhere for mouse acceleration |
| 22:55.49 | shivraj | dkr: I know but it sucks really bad |
| 22:55.54 | shivraj | it needs a lot of work, |
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| 22:56.31 | adb | shivraj: change the mouse ? |
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| 22:58.35 | adb | zl_benson: add that command to kernel line in menu.lst , if not already done |
| 22:59.38 | shivraj | adb: its optical and made by microsoft :p |
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| 23:00.00 | adb | shivraj: so ? |
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| 23:01.25 | shivraj | adb: very little to fix, its this software |
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| 23:01.29 | shivraj | its optical |
| 23:01.31 | shivraj | not like a wheel |
| 23:02.17 | adb | mine is optical&ms and is ok |
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| 23:06.21 | zl_benson | adb, How do I permanently add the rootdelay=10 option? |
| 23:06.52 | adb | i just told you , read up |
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| 23:07.48 | adb | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 23:09.50 | Kurisuchan | Hello, Im trying to find a debian image to install to a usb flashdrive, would someone mind giving me an url? |
| 23:10.15 | Kurisuchan | I only find strange images that's 7-8 mb |
| 23:10.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | you just do a regular install |
| 23:10.57 | Kurisuchan | I just copy the image to my usb memory and boots it? |
| 23:11.02 | Kurisuchan | *boot it |
| 23:11.13 | zl_benson | Once again, thank you adb |
| 23:11.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 23:11.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | you get a CD image from http://www.debian.org/CD and install on the partition on the stick like regular |
| 23:11.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | or do you want to install FROM an usb stick |
| 23:12.08 | DeSian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | or i386 if you want to stay 32 bit |
| 23:13.40 | trollboy | I asked earlier but didn't see a response.. I've got a collection of shell scripts and a custom conf file. I'm wanting to deploy this on multiple servers, so it would be really keen to make it into a deb package and just install it and have it require dependencies... anyone got a url/app to do this or show me how? |
| 23:14.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | checkinstall |
| 23:14.09 | jesseboy | hmm... |
| 23:14.17 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 23:14.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | requires you have some type of install-script, though |
| 23:14.43 | trollboy | I was looking at checkinstall, but it looked like it was just for configure; make; stuff.. compiled apps. I've only got shell scripts and a replacement conf file |
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| 23:15.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | write a script that does the job of 'make install' for your scripts and give that to checkinstall |
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| 23:17.46 | DeSian | what is recommended ia64 or amd64 if i have intel dual core machine and want to have debian-64bit version? |
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| 23:18.27 | trollboy | CutMeOwnThroat, got a url for the make install equiv script |
| 23:18.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | you kiddin me? |
| 23:19.04 | adb | DeSian: ia64 is for itanium processor |
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| 23:19.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | trollboy, #!/bin/sh \n cp yourscript /to/full/path; cp otherscript /to/full/path; etc. etc. |
| 23:20.03 | trollboy | oh snap |
| 23:20.07 | trollboy | just a shell script then |
| 23:20.16 | trollboy | thought it was some kinda crazy C metafile |
| 23:20.36 | Pnux | hey,i know this isnt quite the place, but i just installed KDE4 and i cant see the windows bar on the top, the one with the _ [] X buttons |
| 23:20.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | I wouldn't know what a "crazy C metafile is" |
| 23:20.59 | trollboy | so how would I link that to checkinstall? |
| 23:21.07 | trollboy | looks like it looks for make install and emulates it |
| 23:21.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | "man checkinstall" didn't give you a hint? |
| 23:21.44 | trollboy | duh, ok I am dumb.. I was STFW'ing it |
| 23:21.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | like... "SYNOPSIS"? |
| 23:21.52 | DeSian | adb: but the boot say another things |
| 23:22.07 | DeSian | !tell adb about ia64 |
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| 23:22.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | CheckInstall SYNOPSIS: checkinstall [options] [install command] |
| 23:22.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems pretty straight-forward to ME |
| 23:22.53 | trollboy | yeah, I didn't even look at the manual entry yet |
| 23:22.54 | trollboy | my bad |
| 23:22.59 | trollboy | I was just looking on the web |
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| 23:24.36 | adb | DeSian: read it again |
| 23:25.03 | DeSian | ok thnx |
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| 23:36.39 | lontra | hi i am using pekwm and my top menu entry is partially covered up ... i was curious if this is happening to anyone else and if so how you fixed it? |
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| 23:37.27 | Kurisuchan | Ok, I have downloaded and mounted the debian-502-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1, and I want to start the installer, to be able to install to my usb flashdrive, how do I do that? |
| 23:37.33 | Kurisuchan | I'm in ubuntu atm btw |
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| 23:40.23 | paragon | im trying to install my sound blaster x-fi drivers, however when I go to make I get the following:make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 23:41.18 | adb | Kurisuchan: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/index.html.en |
| 23:41.49 | Kurisuchan | aah, thank you |
| 23:41.52 | adb | paragon: install linux-headers |
| 23:42.09 | paragon | which one exactly? |
| 23:42.15 | adb | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 23:42.34 | amphi | linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 23:47.26 | paragon | same error :S |
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| 23:49.53 | paragon | adb: any idea why it continues to give the same error, after the linux-headers are installed? |
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| 23:51.38 | Liquid- | ok, i'm trying to dual boot winxp home and debian lenny, but it keeps fking up, anyone have any experience in this area? |
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| 23:54.00 | cmyers_work | Liquid-: did you install windows first, then debian? |
| 23:54.04 | Liquid- | yep |
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| 23:54.12 | cmyers_work | can you be more specific about f'in up then? |
| 23:54.17 | Liquid- | well...ok |
| 23:54.20 | here4thegear | I have an .htaccess rewrite problem. RewriteRule ^/([^/]+)/([^/]+)/([^/]+)$ /$1.php?$2=$3 [NC] .... if I go to my site... site.com/index/arg/val/... the error I get is /index/arg/val/ was not found on server... what am I doing wrong here? (obviously this is for a server) |
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| 23:54.21 | Liquid- | i've done ths 3 times now |
| 23:54.33 | cmyers_work | here4thegear: that isn't really related to debian. |
| 23:54.34 | Liquid- | first one i dont count really, cause first time doing it |
| 23:54.44 | Liquid- | but, i can't seem to get grub bootloader to work |
| 23:55.04 | Liquid- | the second time i reinstalled everything, installed windows, then installed debian, everything went fine, installed grub to the MBR |
| 23:55.06 | Liquid- | i restarted |
| 23:55.15 | Liquid- | and got the error "error loading operating system" |
| 23:55.31 | Liquid- | googled and googled, couldn't find anything that would fix it |
| 23:55.46 | cmyers_work | did that error come from grub you think? |
| 23:55.51 | Liquid- | couldn't get into windows or debian |
| 23:55.55 | cmyers_work | or like, the bios acted like it couldn't find bootable media? |
| 23:55.55 | here4thegear | cmyers_work: I know. #httpd couldn't help me with this. |
| 23:56.02 | Liquid- | thats what i'm not sure about :S |
| 23:56.22 | here4thegear | Liquid-: what flavour of windows are you using? |
| 23:56.23 | Liquid- | i was thnking it was bios, cause i couldn't get into windows either |
| 23:56.27 | Liquid- | win xp home sp2 |
| 23:56.38 | cmyers_work | Liquid-: but this is after the grub boot menu? |
| 23:56.42 | Liquid- | nope |
| 23:56.42 | Liquid- | before |
| 23:56.44 | cmyers_work | or right after post screen? |
| 23:56.46 | Liquid- | i dont get anything |
| 23:56.48 | Liquid- | right after post screen |
| 23:56.51 | Liquid- | it gave that error |
| 23:57.13 | cmyers_work | hmm, did you check your bios to ensure the boot order still looks right? |
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| 23:57.21 | Liquid- | yep, it looked correct |
| 23:57.34 | cmyers_work | then the next thing I would try is grab a knoppix cd or some other live linux distro |
| 23:57.43 | cmyers_work | and boot it up and use fdisk to check the partition table |
| 23:57.47 | cmyers_work | make sure it is still bootable, etc. |
| 23:58.10 | Liquid- | hmmm...well i reinstalled everything, and i was going to use windows bootloader |
| 23:58.19 | cmyers_work | what was the last thing you did before this started? installed windows, installed debian, rebooted once, then it started? |
| 23:58.20 | Liquid- | figured it might be grub messing up |
| 23:58.35 | here4thegear | Liquid-: this may seem like a silly question... when you installed win did you install it to the first partition? |
| 23:58.36 | Liquid- | now i can't get grub to install right :S |
| 23:58.45 | Liquid- | yep, first partition, and first HDD |
| 23:58.51 | Liquid- | hdb to be exact |
| 23:58.56 | cmyers_work | like, did it boot to the new linux system at least once right after the install? |
| 23:59.02 | Liquid- | yes cmyers_home, instaleld debian, restarted |
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| 23:59.07 | Liquid- | nope cmyers_home |
| 23:59.17 | cmyers_work | so the installer didn't leave grub in a working state =( |
| 23:59.19 | cmyers_work | that's bad times. |
| 23:59.26 | Liquid- | that could be yea |
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| 23:59.40 | cmyers_work | yeh, I would boot a live distro and see if you can poke around and fix it |
| 23:59.49 | cmyers_work | and if you do figure out the problem, try to submit a bug to the installer folks |
| 23:59.55 | Liquid- | ok :S |
| 23:59.58 | adb | paragon: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/build , says ` -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686` ? |
