| 00:00.12 | zophy | geez |
| 00:00.12 | zophy | mc'geez |
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| 00:03.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | zophy, you can set "ulimit -u 200" or so for each user to stop fork bombs |
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| 00:04.51 | zophy | ok, if fork bomb my laptop, what will happen ? |
| 00:04.57 | zophy | can i reboot ? |
| 00:05.13 | zophy | or do i have to power off? |
| 00:05.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | what type of question is that |
| 00:05.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can reboot after powering off |
| 00:05.25 | zophy | geez looeeze |
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| 00:06.17 | zophy | 10,9,8.... |
| 00:06.24 | zophy | no i can't do it |
| 00:06.30 | zophy | i stopped myself |
| 00:06.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | can't do what |
| 00:06.46 | zophy | i'll fork bomb someone else's laptop |
| 00:07.20 | cirzgamanti | thanks so far CutMeOwnThroat, enouf etc. - right now i'm dead tired, but will look into all of this soon. |
| 00:07.21 | zophy | ulimit |
| 00:07.22 | mjh73ca | fork bomb your own. Not a real big deal. I have done that a number of times. open a second window will killall -9 <process> |
| 00:07.53 | abrotman | can we just drop it? |
| 00:08.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | drop the limits? |
| 00:08.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | funny thing... I set a maximum number of processes on my machine... and now can't figure how/where I did it |
| 00:09.12 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: ulimit |
| 00:09.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know! |
| 00:09.30 | zophy | i'm just wondering if a forkbomb will use up all the system resources like firefox does |
| 00:09.38 | dondelelcaro | zophy: it can |
| 00:09.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just grepped through ~/.bashrc and /etc/ and don't see where I did it :) |
| 00:10.05 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: it'd generally be in /etc/security/limits.conf, but you can set it just about anywhere |
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| 00:10.43 | zophy | fire-fox + fl-ash = huh ? |
| 00:10.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, indeed thats where it is - and I overlooked it because less didn't have syntax coloring |
| 00:11.49 | zophy | unlimited |
| 00:13.15 | zophy | who offers highbandwidth virtual servers for free ? |
| 00:13.52 | mjh73ca | people who want to loose money? |
| 00:14.07 | TbbW | zophy: lol |
| 00:14.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | zophy, I know some SPLENDID guy in nigeria.... |
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| 00:14.36 | TbbW | CutMeOwnThroat: was it that prince i herd about ? :) |
| 00:15.01 | zophy | nigerions are smart and nefarious |
| 00:15.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | TbbW, I can't tell the details right now, but theres talk of a HUGE inheritance and only some reliable guy in the US or Europe is needed |
| 00:15.48 | zophy | i asked an ethiopean who the 'bad' africans were, and he said "nigerians" |
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| 00:18.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | slander |
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| 00:32.20 | martianlobster | which option should I use for apt-get, if I want it to stop prompting me if I want to download something? --force-yes ? |
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| 00:35.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | -y? |
| 00:35.44 | martianlobster | I will try that thhanks |
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| 00:38.28 | user01 | mmm i just updated debian lenny and now networking isnt working |
| 00:38.31 | user01 | wireless |
| 00:38.47 | abrotman | which wireless ? |
| 00:39.05 | user01 | ipw2000 |
| 00:39.09 | user01 | or 2100 |
| 00:39.32 | user01 | 2200bg |
| 00:39.36 | user01 | intel |
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| 00:40.07 | amphi | !ipw2200 |
| 00:40.07 | dpkg | ipw2200 is the driver for Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 and 2915 802.11a/bg chipsets (http://ipw2200.sf.net/) included in kernels since 2.6.15. Firmware is required. Lenny: Add <non-free sources> and install the 'firmware-ipw2x00' package. Etch: Download firmware v3.0 from http://ipw2200.sf.net/firmware.php and extract to /lib/firmware. See also <ipw2200 troubleshooting>. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net |
| 00:40.35 | grand_grunt | Mh, seems quite hard to install Debian on a Apple G3 |
| 00:40.47 | user01 | yes it was working but now with an update it stopped |
| 00:41.02 | user01 | network manager used to ask me which linux version i was using |
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| 00:41.08 | user01 | and i would select debian lenny |
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| 00:41.17 | user01 | now it just opens |
| 00:41.27 | amphi | oh, network manager - never used it |
| 00:41.32 | user01 | and it doesnt do anything when i change network interface |
| 00:41.40 | grand_grunt | The installer ran correctly but installation of quick halted because "/" wasn't the primary partition. humpf. I'll see that later. :) |
| 00:42.21 | user01 | amphi: is there another way to configure wireless? |
| 00:43.22 | grand_grunt | user01: "iwconfig", a CLI tool |
| 00:43.31 | grand_grunt | Or else: wifi-radar, wicd.. |
| 00:43.52 | macrobat_ | i dont use the network manager |
| 00:44.14 | macrobat_ | wicd is nice for wifi |
| 00:44.32 | user01 | so how do i change the info for my eth1 wireless? |
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| 00:47.34 | amphi | user01: or use /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 00:48.25 | macrobat_ | example: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless#Part_II:_Wireless_Management |
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| 00:50.46 | martianlobster | I see bitchx in debian 4.0, but for version 5, "apt-get install bitchx" gives me an error message, "can't find bitchx", so I guess it is gone :( |
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| 00:51.41 | GhostlyDeath | Hello, How would I make it so java executes java6 instead of gij |
| 00:52.15 | user01 | ah so do you just comment out interfaces and then do ifup ifdown and uncomment when you change wireless areas? |
| 00:53.12 | abrotman | GhostlyDeath: update-java-alternatives |
| 00:54.02 | GhostlyDeath | hmm, thanks |
| 00:54.07 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 00:55.25 | evilgeek | in unstable, why does ia32-libs depend on ia32-apt-get but ia32-apt-get conflict with ia32-libs? |
| 00:55.51 | abrotman | because it's .. unstable |
| 00:56.18 | evilgeek | right, but who thought this was a good idea? =P |
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| 00:56.51 | user01 | sounds good to me |
| 00:57.00 | abrotman | evilgeek: if you want stuff to work, don't use unstable |
| 00:57.27 | evilgeek | then i'm stuck with ancient packages, which is no good solution. |
| 00:57.40 | enouf | use win98 then |
| 00:58.03 | evilgeek | is there an obvious way to circumvent this? ia32-apt-get appears to be a replacement for ia32-libs, and someone just added a spurious conflicts line. |
| 00:58.04 | user01 | windows 7 is supposed to be good |
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| 00:58.12 | user01 | andd mac osx |
| 00:58.20 | abrotman | evilgeek: have you checked the BTS? |
| 00:58.32 | evilgeek | i'm not sure what BTS means. |
| 00:58.33 | user01 | BeOS was interesting |
| 00:58.45 | user01 | OS/2 warp |
| 00:58.46 | enouf | user01: /msg dpkg 70 and see the wifi howto at the wiki that dpkg mentioned |
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| 01:00.43 | user01 | enouf: thanks ifup ifdown and then putting in all my wireless points in my interfaces and uncommenting the one i need is what im doing now :) |
| 01:00.52 | abrotman | !btssmite evilgeek |
| 01:00.52 | dpkg | beats evilgeek around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if evilgeek is running testing or unstable |
| 01:02.13 | poisonbit | lol |
| 01:02.28 | craigevil | evilgeek: ia32-apt-get has been broken for a while |
| 01:02.32 | user01 | ati drivers wouldnt work for me if i used anything later than stable :) |
| 01:02.42 | GhostlyDeath | Don't know but, gij just freezes on Debian |
| 01:02.47 | user01 | ati dropped my card after that version |
| 01:02.50 | evilgeek | oh, the bug tracker. |
| 01:03.42 | evilgeek | it's unclear how using the bug tracker will get anything fixed in short order. |
| 01:03.47 | user01 | well now that i got wireless working on debian box i can get off this ubuntu one |
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| 01:06.27 | poisonbit | evilgeek, maybe that the bt, may help you using apt-listbugs is you live in testing,sid,experimental, etc |
| 01:06.46 | poisonbit | s/is you live/if you live/ |
| 01:08.37 | evilgeek | see, that's the thing. i want to hack around this problem because i doubt it'll get fixed in short order if i don't. |
| 01:08.40 | craigevil | evilgeek: http://www.nabble.com/ia32-apt-get%3A-Striking-my-colors-td24330290.html |
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| 01:11.54 | pdbogen | Hi, guys. I have a radeon X1950XT, and I'm using the 'radeon' driver from Sid. glxinfo reports that Direct Rendering is turned on. Running 'sudo glxgears' works fine, and results in omg 1337 FPSs, so DRI is, in fact, working. Running glxgears as non-root returns: "Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual" -- Any ideas? |
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| 01:12.50 | evilgeek | hm, interesting. |
| 01:13.38 | pdbogen | (I ran starce -e trace=file glxgears, and there was nothing denied, so it's not a file permissions issue, though there might be something more subtle.) |
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| 01:18.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you google for the error? |
| 01:19.38 | pdbogen | Yeah. It appears in a lot of different situations, but none seems to apply to me- most of them presuppose that nothing using DRI works, which doesn't seem to be so in my case. |
| 01:20.01 | pdbogen | Some of the links suggested that there are two versions of libGL present, but updatedb/locate doesn't turn up any other than the one and its links in /usr/lib. |
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| 01:20.47 | rue_mohr | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B <-- which package do I need again? |
| 01:21.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | debian-keyring |
| 01:21.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 01:22.08 | rue_mohr | ? |
| 01:22.12 | rue_mohr | yes or no? |
| 01:22.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | !key |
| 01:22.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, key is Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest gpg key used to sign the Debian archive |
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| 01:29.50 | ajavid | seriously |
| 01:30.01 | ajavid | wtf I hate debian! :( |
| 01:30.07 | grul | good news |
| 01:30.14 | ajavid | oh nm, it works |
| 01:30.19 | ajavid | ok i love debian again. |
| 01:30.26 | pdbogen | laughs. |
| 01:30.30 | darkhamm | hi people, i would like to know something bluetooth remote control, if exist something with "mouse mode" and desktop mode, on the phone |
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| 01:31.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | ajavid, GO TO UBUNTU! |
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| 01:35.03 | SQlvpapir | just swapped my 1gb modules out for 2gb ones.. firefox go home :D |
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| 01:35.55 | darkhamm | hey people, what about bluetooth remote control' |
| 01:35.57 | darkhamm | ? |
| 01:35.58 | The_Rufus | hello all |
| 01:36.08 | enouf | !new archive key |
| 01:36.08 | dpkg | If you have fallen behind with your updates, then you may be getting this warning from apt-get update: "W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 9AA38DCD55BE302B". Install the debian-archive-keyring package to load the new key or manually load the new key using apt-key after verifying that it has been correctly signed. Ask me about <secure apt> <apt-key 55BE302B>. |
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| 01:36.46 | The_Rufus | is there anyone who can help me set up an icecast server on ubuntu 6? |
| 01:38.22 | abrotman | The_Rufus: please ask in #ubuntu |
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| 01:38.49 | The_Rufus | i did |
| 01:38.54 | The_Rufus | i'm being ignored |
| 01:38.58 | abrotman | then ask in ##linux |
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| 01:39.44 | The_Rufus | so nobody CAN help me or nobody WANTS to help me? |
| 01:39.52 | mjh73ca | I cannot |
| 01:39.59 | abrotman | Ubuntu support is offtopic in this channel |
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| 01:40.14 | The_Rufus | last time I checked ubuntu is built on debian |
| 01:40.23 | abrotman | but it's not Debian, this channel is for Debian support |
| 01:40.34 | Qew | heh... how many times has that been said here ;) |
| 01:40.52 | The_Rufus | no wonder windows is so popular. not as much finger pointing |
| 01:40.55 | mjh73ca | I will say that refusing to even try to answer a question about a different distribution is what causes the relgious crap between distributions |
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| 01:41.32 | abrotman | mjh73ca: okay, so you should be able to ask about suse in #centos? |
| 01:41.39 | Qew | the channel would then get bogged down with other distros, leaving less help for Debian users |
| 01:42.15 | mjh73ca | Sure focus primarily on the distro, but to simply say go away and bug others is not a friendly way to do it. |
| 01:42.29 | mjh73ca | Sure, ask about suse in #centos, wouldn't bother me |
| 01:42.38 | abrotman | mjh73ca: do you have any idea how many distros are based on debian, or in turn then based on debian derivatives? |
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| 01:43.00 | mjh73ca | A specific number? nope |
| 01:43.46 | dondelelcaro | mjh73ca: it's not important what it engenders; questions about non Debian distributions are not on topic here. Anyone who wants to answer those questions is free to do it in the distribution specific channel or in ##linux. |
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| 01:43.59 | billenium | Would 256mb of RAM be enough to run debian? |
| 01:44.00 | dondelelcaro | (and discussions about whether or not its on topic are not on topic either) |
| 01:44.02 | dondelelcaro | billenium: yes |
| 01:44.17 | billenium | well enough? |
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| 01:44.30 | abrotman | billenium: what is the purpose of the machine |
| 01:44.30 | mjh73ca | Questions about Debian take a long time to get an answer for and get you redirected elsewhere, where there is dead silence |
| 01:44.59 | dondelelcaro | billenium: depends on what you want to do; you certainly can run X on it. |
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| 01:45.16 | abrotman | billenium: i probably wouldn't run Gnome/KDE on it, but it should be able to run X and a window manager |
| 01:45.33 | billenium | oh, its for a server :P |
| 01:45.34 | billenium | so CLI only |
| 01:45.45 | abrotman | then yes, it should be fine |
| 01:45.46 | Qew | billenium: I run an old laptop (P3 with 256 shared RAM) with Lenny and Xfce on it... it's fine. |
| 01:45.51 | Qew | ah, then it's fine |
| 01:45.54 | billenium | good good |
| 01:46.16 | billenium | it is going to be a webserver (nginx, not apache) |
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| 01:47.18 | mjh73ca | I came to this channel today with some debian questions. I got mainly vague answers and sent elsewhere. If this supposed to be support for Debian then one would think that Debian questions could get answered. I have been using linux since 1993ish and used a number of distributions. Debian does have some nice features, but not enough to swing me. The lack of answers however is. I will be using Debian on my NSLU2 because that is the distribution that I ca |
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| 01:47.40 | nsadmin | you're going to want to partition the drive appropriately for a server (which means at least a separate /tmp, /home, /var and maybe /usr) |
| 01:47.58 | Qew | mjh73ca: feel free to change... |
| 01:48.05 | billenium | thanks nsadmin |
| 01:48.10 | Qew | emotional blackmail... |
| 01:48.19 | billenium | ^ i know, right? |
| 01:48.35 | mjh73ca | Without knowing what kind of server that answer is not really useful. A database server why waste a partition for /home for example |
| 01:48.42 | Qew | billenium: not you :) |
| 01:48.58 | dondelelcaro | mjh73ca: this channel is volunteer driven, so if you get any support at all, it's a bonus. |
| 01:49.04 | mjh73ca | Not blackmail. I am not threatening in anyway. Just saying that the support in this forum is not enought to make me want to switch |
| 01:49.07 | nsadmin | you don't want to fill / |
| 01:49.14 | nsadmin | that's what that protects against |
| 01:49.30 | enouf | mjh73ca: your message was truncated here ~ "....will be using Debian on my NSLU2 because that is the distribution that I ca" |
| 01:49.42 | enouf | perhaps even earlier for others |
| 01:49.46 | dondelelcaro | mjh73ca: if you're not running Debian now, and don't have any Debian related questions, then best to just drop this whole line of questioning |
| 01:49.51 | mjh73ca | distribution that I can find the most information on that platform. However, I won't likely be switching to Debian for anything else |
| 01:50.14 | nsadmin | mjh73ca: run anything you want... if you're not paying for support, you're already getting more than you paid for |
| 01:50.27 | abrotman | mjh73ca: i sent you to a channel specifically about ARM .. you were asking a pretty specific qusetion |
| 01:50.30 | mjh73ca | donceieicaro: I am attempting to install Debian, which is why I came here |
| 01:50.38 | nsadmin | the point is YOU choose, and therefore YOU commit to learning it. |
| 01:50.42 | mjh73ca | Yeah, and the channel had not answer |
| 01:50.42 | abrotman | that's a new mangling ... |
| 01:50.54 | billenium | nsadmin: i LOVE that line. |
| 01:51.03 | billenium | "if you're not paying for support, you're already getting more than you paid for" |
| 01:51.15 | abrotman | mjh73ca: yes, there are 30 people there. It is the weekend. Consider that people might not even be near their computer |
| 01:51.18 | mjh73ca | So thie is Debian for x86? I missed that in the channel name |
| 01:51.26 | abrotman | gives up |
| 01:51.44 | dondelelcaro | mjh73ca: well, if no one here knew, and no one there knows, then you'll have to ask somewhere else. If you're installing Debian, we'll try to answer, but no guarantees. |
| 01:51.53 | nsadmin | mjh73ca: no it's more general... but there are better places to get help |
| 01:52.04 | abrotman | he was asking if he could have root on NFS on a nslu2 |
| 01:52.15 | mjh73ca | Which is a debian question no? |
| 01:52.17 | mogunus | I would assume this page happened? http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ |
| 01:52.31 | dondelelcaro | mjh73ca: you can certainly have a root NFS on a slug. |
| 01:52.38 | mjh73ca | No mention of installing it to an nfs root |
| 01:52.46 | abrotman | mjh73ca: it is, but no one here answered you, so I thought maybe you could get a better answer from a channel geared toward your architecture |
| 01:53.20 | nsadmin | additional support you're also not paying for |
| 01:53.22 | mjh73ca | Okay, so the question is a) how, b) where do I look for how? I don't mind trying to learn or find answers, but being pointed to a dead channel is not going to help me learn |
| 01:53.33 | abrotman | <mjh73ca> Does debian support installing onto a NFSroot? |
| 01:54.26 | nsadmin | you're not on that channel now... so I'll bite: had you joined and then left? |
| 01:54.39 | abrotman | nsadmin: on OFTC? |
| 01:54.45 | abrotman | he's not using the same nick there |
| 01:54.48 | nsadmin | oh, it's not here |
| 01:54.54 | nsadmin | nm |
| 01:54.58 | mjh73ca | I was on the channel for several hours. Different server and different name. |
| 01:55.06 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 01:55.12 | leoventura | I'm having problems with my usb keyboard on debian testing..someone has been there? |
| 01:55.44 | nsadmin | I'm considering getting one of those 54g routers from frys |
| 01:56.11 | nsadmin | it's labeled that it uses linux... could I debootstrap onto it maybe? |
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| 01:56.31 | abrotman | it uses? or it can? |
| 01:56.43 | abrotman | leoventura: does it show up in lsusb? |
| 01:56.44 | nsadmin | it uses. according to the label |
| 01:57.13 | nsadmin | I guess that would depend on whether I could (say) ssh in as roto |
| 01:58.12 | nsadmin | those use prism2s? |
| 01:58.16 | leoventura | abrotman: it works normaly but suddenly it stop, and need to reboot the system |
| 01:58.51 | abrotman | leoventura: if you plug in a PS/2 keyboard, can you type again? |
| 01:58.57 | abrotman | leoventura: and which kernel |
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| 02:00.48 | konr | what is non-free in debian, besides the kernel? or, why should I use gnusense? |
| 02:01.00 | leoventura | abrotman: I compile the kernel but the problem continue...now I'm using a PS2 kbd, my USB kbd is installed on my mother machine to test it... |
| 02:01.05 | ranix | !free software guidelines |
| 02:01.06 | nsadmin | the kernel is not non-free |
| 02:01.15 | ranix | hm |
| 02:01.31 | abrotman | nsadmin: depends how you view the blobs |
| 02:01.48 | nsadmin | non-free mostly is for stuff that has restrictive and/or proprietary licensing |
| 02:01.51 | ranix | aha |
| 02:01.53 | ranix | !non-free |
| 02:01.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 02:01.57 | ranix | !dfsg |
| 02:01.57 | dpkg | rumour has it, dfsg is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
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| 02:05.47 | konr | won't it be fine if I remove non-free and contrib from my sources ? |
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| 02:06.46 | abrotman | probably |
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| 02:11.21 | SuperMiguel | debian doesnt like mb raids right? |
| 02:11.35 | SuperMiguel | like i set a mb raid using my mb |
| 02:11.43 | SuperMiguel | and debian seems them as seperate drives |
| 02:12.16 | mjh73ca | It will likely need a driver for the raid array that came with the motherboard. The array will likely show up as a scsi device |
| 02:12.44 | SuperMiguel | when i do fdisk -l |
| 02:12.48 | SuperMiguel | it shows them as seperate |
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| 02:13.00 | SuperMiguel | i have the disc... but it only has windows drivers |
| 02:13.22 | abrotman | SuperMiguel: it's probably not real raid on your mb |
| 02:13.31 | SuperMiguel | is prob fake raid |
| 02:13.38 | poisonbit | Supaplex, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 02:13.40 | mjh73ca | Then it may be the motherboard that doesn't like linux (I refuse to get into distro specific crap) |
| 02:13.59 | SuperMiguel | then my only option will be softwar raid |
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| 02:14.34 | mjh73ca | unless you can find the linux drivers most likely |
| 02:14.55 | SuperMiguel | using mdadm |
| 02:14.59 | poisonbit | try booting the installer with dmraid=true, but this is experimental |
| 02:15.15 | poisonbit | see the wiki link |
| 02:15.22 | SuperMiguel | well i dont want to install on the raid |
| 02:16.27 | poisonbit | i would prefer a software stable raid, than a half hardware half software experimental raid |
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| 02:17.22 | jaggz- | is there a wireless (wifi) usb adaptor I can find at Fry's, supported under Debian? |
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| 02:17.59 | jaggz- | Bueller? |
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| 02:18.15 | nsadmin | jaggz- I recently bought a trendnet card |
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| 02:18.51 | nsadmin | err usb adapter... worked fine |
| 02:20.24 | jaggz- | thanks a lot.. looking into it to see if it's supported locally |
| 02:20.33 | poisonbit | jaggz-, in casi this help you: http://paste.debian.net/41655/ |
| 02:20.37 | jaggz- | my thinkpad is old and only supports wep too.. :( |
| 02:20.42 | nsadmin | which frys do you go to |
| 02:21.58 | jaggz- | manhattan beach or woodland hills.. probably the later this time |
| 02:22.35 | jaggz- | is this your stick? http://www.frys.com/product/5782432?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG |
| 02:23.36 | nsadmin | no, I'm sure it's not an N |
| 02:24.34 | nsadmin | bought it for like 16 bux and I don't have any other wireless |
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| 02:27.00 | jaggz- | someone gave me one as a gift.. it works well.. |
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| 02:27.17 | jaggz- | but because my thinkpad lap only supports wep, our whole net is wep |
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| 02:29.17 | jaggz- | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USBDevices |
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| 02:34.01 | jaggz- | awll3026/na |
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| 02:40.30 | jaggz- | http://www.frys.com/product/5643251?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG |
| 02:40.38 | jaggz- | it's about time someone do something intelligent |
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| 02:41.53 | MustangMatt | Hey Guys, How do I get my laptop to use ondemand instead of performance for cpufreq regardless of battery vs plugged in? |
| 02:42.17 | MustangMatt | I should specify, how do I make it boot up in ondemand vs performance. |
| 02:42.23 | MustangMatt | I can manually set it and it works great. |
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| 02:44.40 | jaggz- | we just moved and my desktop doesn't boot X anymore.. different monitor and mouse -- but that's weird isn't it? |
| 02:44.54 | jaggz- | how do I properly start X anyway? I used to use startx |
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| 02:48.08 | hesco | how much memory is bigmem ? |
| 02:48.38 | hesco | and if I install linux-headers....bigmem, do I also need to install a matching kernel image? |
| 02:49.12 | adb | !bigmem |
| 02:49.12 | dpkg | -bigmem linux-images support up to 64 GB of RAM. If you have more than about 3.4 GB of RAM, install and use this to see everything past the sub ~3.4 GB limit (but with additional CPU overhead). |
| 02:49.35 | hesco | thank you adb |
| 02:55.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, so over 3.4GB it would be worthwhile to run a 64bit system? |
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| 02:58.10 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: depending on what you're doing, it could be better even below that. |
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| 02:58.45 | Detox | there is a guy in #joomla whos really profane and no one has ops there,, can someone come in a ban this guy?>/ |
| 02:59.02 | Detox | if not ,,, where is teh room for the irc cops? |
| 02:59.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | Must.... gorn |
| 02:59.28 | Qew | Detox: #freenode |
| 02:59.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | dondelelcaro, interesting... why? |
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| 03:00.22 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: if you have a program which needs more than 1G or a program which uses the extra registers |
| 03:00.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | jaggz-, startx is ok if you don't run gdm xdm or somesuch |
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| 03:00.36 | ajavid | i use startx |
| 03:01.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm, no |
| 03:01.47 | ajavid | Detox, thats funny |
| 03:01.49 | Detox | thnks |
| 03:01.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've got those non-free licensed (mostly) 32bit molecular dynamics things softwares though... which were another reason to stick with 32bit |
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| 03:02.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | although, I think someone ported it to 64bit now |
| 03:02.25 | ajavid | Detox, 09:53 <@ idigital> hehe |
| 03:02.30 | ajavid | that guy IS an op |
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| 03:02.41 | ajavid | lol... thas funny. |
| 03:02.41 | Detox | well he is bing very profane |
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| 03:03.21 | ajavid | #freenode is the place to complain |
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| 03:04.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | you are also always free to /part |
| 03:04.04 | hesco | in make menuconfig, what means Module Embedding ??? |
| 03:04.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | *shrug* |
| 03:04.16 | hesco | sorry wrong channel |
| 03:04.20 | hesco | for that question |
| 03:04.24 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: you can use a 32bit chroot, or eventually, multi-arch for those sorts of things |
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| 03:07.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just checked... there's a 64-bit port now... I start wondering how much that increases performance |
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| 03:08.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, can I run 64bit apps under a 32bit kernel? |
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| 03:10.16 | ajavid | CutMeOwnThroat, no |
| 03:10.33 | ajavid | CutMeOwnThroat, its a one way street. |
| 03:11.16 | Arrowmaster | ICH10R is a fakeraid right? |
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| 03:11.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | ajavid, like the way to hell, then |
| 03:12.09 | ajavid | CutMeOwnThroat, pretty much :) |
| 03:12.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | is it paved with good intentions? |
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| 03:14.58 | spowers | Does anyone know how to enable the debconf web frontend? |
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| 03:24.04 | ajavid | CutMeOwnThroat, fucked if I knew |
| 03:24.20 | ajavid | I'm watching the entertainment in #joomla :) |
| 03:24.39 | ajavid | I can't believe that was few years ago, all stoend out, being offtopic and obnoxious |
| 03:24.51 | ajavid | ahhhh boy. I have enjoyed growing up. Its nice. |
| 03:25.05 | ajavid | can't believe that was me* |
| 03:25.27 | ajavid | I mean im still a bit offtopic here n there rarely but I mean.. I'm not obnoxious. |
| 03:25.46 | ajavid | thats why people should do drugs and get on freenode. anyway, I'll stop before i get carried away |
| 03:25.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | surrepitously points at #debian-offtopic |
| 03:25.55 | ajavid | shoudl NOT* damn my keyoard |
| 03:25.57 | ajavid | yeh yeh i know |
| 03:26.01 | ajavid | shaddup! :) |
| 03:26.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, /join #debian-offtopic :) |
| 03:26.16 | ajavid | no way |
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| 03:26.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | why not |
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| 03:26.24 | ajavid | no way in hell with good intent pavements |
| 03:26.26 | ajavid | no fucking way. |
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| 03:26.43 | ajavid | there is dr. phil there. thats all igotta say. I'm leaving enjoy your saturday guys |
| 03:26.47 | ajavid | debian ftw. |
| 03:26.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, if people who are obnoxious would know they are, they might possibly stop being it |
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| 03:27.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | dr phil? |
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| 03:29.08 | darkdragon2k | Hey guys, any one ever hear of the IOGEAR KVM? |
| 03:29.13 | craigevil | ajavid: were you Nyles |
| 03:29.16 | darkdragon2k | apperntly its running a deian os |
| 03:29.22 | ajavid | craigevil, Nyle |
| 03:29.25 | ajavid | craigevil, yes |
| 03:29.41 | ajavid | I hear a lot about KVM I don't actually have experience with it |
| 03:30.05 | ajavid | how does it hold up on say amd64 with xp pro x64 (if you can use windows with it that is) |
| 03:30.22 | ajavid | compared to say like vmware or virtualbox |
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| 03:30.39 | darkdragon2k | ajavid: im just trying to figure out what this software is.. looks like a frankanstine VNC.. |
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| 03:31.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | ajavid, oh, this time I didn't know :) |
| 03:31.13 | ajavid | good luck buddy, I dunno anything about KVM |
| 03:31.22 | ajavid | CutMeOwnThroat, didn't know what? |
| 03:31.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | that you were Nyle |
| 03:31.52 | ajavid | good |
| 03:31.57 | ajavid | forget it |
| 03:31.59 | BubbaT | I've got a mobo with an intergrated Radeon X1250X chipset. What video driver do I want to use? ( Googling gets me conflicting answers. ) |
| 03:32.01 | ajavid | you still don't know. |
| 03:32.02 | darkdragon2k | ajavid:lol yeh.. its interesting.. managed to start the server using nomaly VNC authentication and no encryption.. but it seg faults.. |
| 03:32.02 | ajavid | :) |
| 03:32.12 | ajavid | BubbaT, radeon |
| 03:32.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | else I'd repeated the quip that got you up all the way the wall last time :) |
| 03:32.26 | itrebal | Does apt-get purge remove EVERYTHING that installing a package added to a system? including everything in /etc/? |
| 03:32.28 | ajavid | BubbaT, BubbaT do you require 3D capability? |
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| 03:33.04 | ajavid | BubbaT, depending on how much power you're looking for, basic 3D is provided by radeon driver, it works well enough, but it isn't as fast as fglrx |
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| 03:33.18 | ajavid | BubbaT, you can use the free radeon driver, or the closed source fglr |
| 03:33.21 | ajavid | fglrx* |
| 03:34.20 | sfdsd | hi there, anybody use life-helper? did you mount /home with rw permission? |
| 03:34.32 | BubbaT | you mean xserver-xorg-video-radeon? |
| 03:35.46 | ajavid | that is correct |
| 03:36.18 | sfdsd | actually, I tried to add this... echo '/dev/sda2 /home ext3 defaults 0 0' >> ~/usb/chroot/etc/fstab , but unfortunately, it's not happening |
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| 03:36.45 | ajavid | you don't mount actual devices in a chroot |
| 03:36.47 | ajavid | you bind them |
| 03:36.52 | ajavid | man mount /bind |
| 03:37.09 | BubbaT | Which is what I'm using, so why can't I get compiz to run? |
| 03:37.16 | ajavid | bind already mounted devices from your host sytem to the guest chroto |
| 03:37.19 | ajavid | chroot |
| 03:37.46 | ajavid | if you have extra external devices not mounted sure you can mount them, but for /home, you should mount --bind home |
| 03:37.50 | SuperMiguel | poisonbit, does debian have a stable software raid? |
| 03:37.52 | ajavid | sepcify type bind instead of ext4 |
| 03:37.53 | ajavid | sepcify type bind instead of ext3 |
| 03:38.04 | lafrance | ajavid, do you know the location of ssh welcome.txt ? |
| 03:38.14 | ajavid | nope |
| 03:38.26 | adb | !software raid |
| 03:38.26 | dpkg | software raid is probably commonly used to describe RAID facilities in the Linux kernel. This means that you can RAID with any disks, with no need for a "special" (read winmodem) hardware controller. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html also see http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html or see section 6.3.2.2 of the <ig>, or for SATA disks ask me about <sata raid> |
| 03:38.38 | nsadmin | lafrance: look at your pam scripts |
| 03:38.45 | ajavid | apt-file did not return any results |
| 03:38.54 | ajavid | for welcome.txt sure but not for ssh related |
| 03:38.57 | lafrance | nsadmin, thank you |
| 03:38.57 | jpinx-eeepc | lafrance: did you look through /etc/ssh* ? |
| 03:39.00 | nsadmin | did you apt-file update? |
| 03:39.05 | ajavid | nsadmin, of course |
| 03:39.16 | ajavid | nsadmin, its on a 24 hour cron |
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| 03:39.23 | ajavid | nsadmin, as is updatedb |
| 03:39.26 | ajavid | :) |
| 03:39.41 | nsadmin | updatedb is there anyway tho, right? |
| 03:39.49 | ajavid | no, I don't think so |
| 03:39.52 | nsadmin | cron.daily |
| 03:39.55 | ajavid | is it? |
| 03:39.59 | ajavid | I can't recall |
| 03:40.30 | sfdsd | ->you don't mount actual devices in a chroot |
| 03:40.30 | sfdsd | yes, but I'm make image from this chroot via lh_build |
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| 03:40.36 | ajavid | no it isn't |
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| 03:42.01 | macrobat_ | suddenly i cannot shutdown from inside xfce4 anymore. I just get logged out. how come? |
| 03:42.23 | sfdsd | when I run my life-distro, I've another fstab, but like that fstab unlike with it fstab |
| 03:43.26 | craigevil | macrobat_: check that you are in the powerdev group |
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| 03:45.42 | macrobat_ | craigevil: yes i am |
| 03:46.47 | macrobat_ | oh, sry i am not anymore, |
| 03:46.50 | craigevil | macrobat_: thats the extent of what i know, i have never ran xfce, check whatever the settings of whatever login manager you are using kdm/gdm/xdm |
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| 03:47.17 | macrobat_ | i thought hal did powermanagement nowadays |
| 03:47.25 | macrobat_ | no login manager |
| 03:47.49 | craigevil | your using startx? |
| 03:48.13 | macrobat_ | yes and there is no powerdev group |
| 03:48.46 | SQlvpapir | I've just gotten a new drive for my laptop. I'd like to migrate only certain partitions to different setoffs that on the old drive and the manually install grub (using chroot from a live disk if you must know). Can you recommend any specific tools or approach to copying a partition like that? |
| 03:50.52 | nsadmin | ajavid, /etc/cron.daily/find |
| 03:51.12 | SuperMiguel | to use mdadm where do i pt my conf file? in /etc/raidtab or in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
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| 03:53.52 | macrobat_ | SQlvpapir: partition new disk (maybe gparted) mount and copy |
| 03:54.19 | macrobat_ | or use dd: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/ |
| 03:56.02 | SQlvpapir | macrobat_: yeah I guess dd will have to do for now |
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| 03:59.30 | SuperMiguel | to setup debian software raid is it better to do it during the istallation? or using mdadm? |
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| 04:00.58 | SQlvpapir | SuperMiguel: if its for your / I suppose its easier to do at install time |
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| 04:01.13 | SuperMiguel | no is not for / |
| 04:01.31 | SuperMiguel | i just want to create a raid 5 for storage |
| 04:01.40 | SuperMiguel | i installed my os on another drive |
| 04:01.56 | SuperMiguel | im following this guide: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html |
| 04:02.09 | SuperMiguel | but the mkraid command doesnt work |
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| 04:04.58 | daedhel | having some trouble here. I have a linode account wich is a host wor websites,, and I have been reveiving I/O overusage alerts from linode for the last couple of days. I would like do diagnose what/who is the source of that that high i/o activity, and see if I can prevent it. When I run iotop, I see no exagerated usage. When I run iftop, i see many weird hosts and ips, that sould not be there normally (china's ip). anyone can he |
| 04:04.59 | daedhel | lp ? |
| 04:05.21 | tCzern | hello, what application enables drop shadows and some eye candy for my desktop. I don't have a strong graphic ... |
| 04:05.58 | kejen | hi, is there a way to find out which package own a specific file? man page of dpkg doesnt seem to tell anything |
| 04:06.02 | daedhel | tCzern, compiz, or natively in metacity and xfwm4, of xcompmgr |
| 04:06.52 | daedhel | kejen, install "apt-file" and then use it like this "apt-file thefileyousearch" |
| 04:06.56 | tCzern | thanks! |
| 04:07.05 | daedhel | np ;) |
| 04:11.45 | tCzern | daedhel: I installed compiz but cannot find this in the menu, will i need to reboot? |
| 04:11.53 | neoice | is there a good way to control which interface traffic is going out? |
| 04:12.38 | daedhel | tCzern, install "fusion-icon" , then start it. It will add a tray icon wich will allow you to control compiz |
| 04:12.48 | daedhel | neoice, control? |
| 04:12.53 | SuperMiguel | im following this guide: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html |
| 04:12.55 | SuperMiguel | but the mkraid command doesnt work |
| 04:12.59 | SuperMiguel | any idea? |
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| 04:13.15 | neoice | if I have eth0 and wlan0 both up and I want say, ssh $somehost to go via wlan0, how can I? |
| 04:13.42 | daedhel | neoice, sorry no idea |
| 04:13.55 | tCzern | daedhel: don't have this in my repo |
| 04:14.10 | tCzern | using etch |
| 04:14.57 | kejen | daedhel: that got me much closer, apt-file seems to check against the apt repo and not your system. Better than nothing I guess |
| 04:15.59 | daedhel | tCzern, did you add non-free, contrib, etc. in your source.list ? if you did, you can check the compiz website on how to add repos to have compiz to install on your system. |
| 04:16.12 | tCzern | hhm. |
| 04:16.15 | tCzern | I guess not ... |
| 04:16.26 | daedhel | kejen, did you check "man apt-file" ? there might be a switch to search your system |
| 04:17.10 | daedhel | tCzern, add the line to your source.list first, then, if it does not work, check compiz site |
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| 04:17.53 | adb | SuperMiguel: don't cross post , please |
| 04:19.02 | tCzern | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/etch/main contrib non-free daedhel, that's what I have |
| 04:20.43 | daedhel | tCzern, you might also chos a server that is closer to you |
| 04:21.16 | daedhel | tCzern, I suggest you do some reading on the web regarding your source.list file. |
| 04:21.27 | tCzern | k |
| 04:21.44 | tCzern | I found instructions for lenny, but again, I am using etch |
| 04:21.44 | hark | kejen: dpkg -S foo |
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| 04:22.52 | adb | tCzern: deb ttp://ftp.debian.org/debian oldstable main contrib non-free |
| 04:23.37 | Liquid- | hmmm...so i built a custom kernel, but it didn't work, i finally found out that it didn't make the initrd.img so that wasn't in grub |
| 04:23.46 | Liquid- | anyone know why it wouldn't build and install the initrd.img thing? |
| 04:24.05 | Liquid- | (i made the img myself, and it works now, just wondering for future reference) |
| 04:24.57 | adb | !kmantra |
| 04:26.37 | tCzern | adb: thanks, but there is not fusion-Icon in there |
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| 04:26.53 | Jids | is there anyone here who might be able to help me set up wireless on Mepis? |
| 04:27.47 | hark | Jids: try #mepis |
| 04:28.00 | Jids | hark: tried, no one's available |
| 04:28.02 | hark | Liquid-: it's a known bug |
| 04:28.10 | Liquid- | oh.... |
| 04:28.15 | Liquid- | well i rediscovered it :) |
| 04:28.31 | adb | tCzern: apt-cache search fusion-Icon |
| 04:28.48 | hark | Liquid-: http://bugs.debian.org/523735 |
| 04:28.57 | adb | tCzern: but apt-get update first |
| 04:29.02 | hark | no fusion-icon in etch |
| 04:29.03 | Jids | so is there anyone who can help me set up wireless? |
| 04:29.31 | adb | judd: versions fusion-icon |
| 04:29.31 | judd | adb: fusion-icon -- lenny: 0.1.0-2 sid: 0.1.0-2 squeeze: 0.1.0-2 |
| 04:29.52 | tCzern | so, how do you start compiz ub etch then? |
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| 04:30.16 | Liquid- | interesting, thanks hark |
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| 04:31.25 | hark | tCzern: try compiz --replace |
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| 04:31.53 | adb | tCzern: lenny is better for compiz &co |
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| 04:33.32 | tCzern | ad, just want some basic effects, like drop shadows |
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| 04:34.43 | adb | tCzern: do as hark said |
| 04:35.29 | tCzern | compiz --replace |
| 04:35.29 | tCzern | /usr/bin/compiz.real: No composite extension |
| 04:37.15 | adb | tCzern: try to ask in #compiz |
| 04:37.23 | hark | add the Composite extension in your xorg.conf |
| 04:37.44 | tCzern | ok. |
| 04:39.11 | RadSurfer | how do I launch nautilus (file browser) from a terminal please? |
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| 04:40.13 | h3xis | RadSurfer: nautilus --browser |
| 04:40.26 | RadSurfer | it reports "type --help for options" |
| 04:40.32 | nvz_ | just finally tried the fglrx driver on my laptop, no real surprise that it doesn't work :-P |
| 04:40.36 | fbc-mx | Could someone recommend an apache tuning script? |
| 04:40.47 | nvz_ | guess its time to give aiglx a go |
| 04:40.47 | h3xis | RadSurfer: what version of nautilus? |
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| 04:41.11 | RadSurfer | I just installed 5.0.2 debian |
| 04:41.31 | hark | RadSurfer: nautilus --no-desktop |
| 04:41.47 | RadSurfer | it reports "type --help for options" :( |
| 04:42.01 | h3xis | try that and see what it gives you then |
| 04:42.18 | RadSurfer | I get a list of options |
| 04:42.52 | h3xis | are any of them what you want? |
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| 04:44.22 | RadSurfer | It's not possible to run a file-browser from the terminal? |
| 04:44.33 | RadSurfer | every other distro lets me... |
| 04:44.54 | RadSurfer | How do I launch file-browser as root then? |
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| 04:45.20 | h3xis | RadSurfer: put the results of nautilus --help into pastebin |
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| 04:49.01 | hesco | I'm using chroot to build an install image, but am confused by what is happening in my ps listings. Both in the chroot'd shell and in the shell on the parent system, the ps table is showing the same apps running the same pid's. How can I make sure my image is working before bundling it up and installing it elsewhere? |
| 04:49.43 | RadSurfer | debian does not allow any gui application to be run from a terminal |
| 04:49.52 | RadSurfer | or does it have to enabled somehow to allow that? |
| 04:50.29 | h3xis | RadSurfer: it does. what options does nautilus --help give you? |
| 04:50.45 | RadSurfer | It's not even allowing me to run 'gedit' from a terminal !! |
| 04:51.01 | RadSurfer | it reports: type gedit --help for valid options! |
| 04:51.08 | RadSurfer | clearly, there is a reason why it is doing this |
| 04:51.28 | hesco | what user are you? does that user have perms to use the X-server? |
| 04:51.40 | hesco | are you root, for instance? |
| 04:51.59 | RadSurfer | I am normal user! it should permit it! and it should allow it as root also! other distros do this just fine! |
| 04:52.29 | hesco | I often do $ some-gui-app & |
| 04:52.36 | hesco | is that not working for you? |
| 04:52.54 | hesco | what errors are you seeing? |
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| 04:52.58 | RadSurfer | "Can not open display:" |
| 04:53.07 | RadSurfer | apparently something to do with X-server? |
| 04:53.16 | hesco | that is an Xserver issue |
| 04:53.21 | Irishmanluke | RadSurfer: I just recently also installed debian |
| 04:53.23 | RadSurfer | how do I fix this please. |
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| 04:54.35 | hesco | what does whoami say? |
| 04:54.43 | RadSurfer | currently, root |
| 04:55.01 | hesco | root must be granted perms to run apps on the x-server |
| 04:55.12 | RadSurfer | I wanted to edit a couple files, and use nautilus as root to make it easier to get to them. |
| 04:55.21 | RadSurfer | And how do I do that please |
| 04:55.35 | hesco | any reason you can't use vim or nano ? |
| 04:55.49 | Irishmanluke | anyone, with Ubuntu I am used to running anything I don't have permissions for with sudo so I added myself to the sudoers file in debian. Is there any problem with this solution? |
| 04:56.13 | hesco | sudo vim config-file |
| 04:56.25 | h3xis | Irishmanluke: no. that's what youre supposed to do |
| 04:56.28 | hesco | but sudo does not get you around the xserver perm issues |
| 04:56.42 | RadSurfer | so how does root get perms to gui's from a terminal? sheesh |
| 04:56.45 | Irishmanluke | I don't have issues with xserver perms |
| 04:56.57 | hesco | it is a security risk to run gui's on the xserver as root |
| 04:56.58 | Irishmanluke | I don't think anyway |
| 04:57.07 | RadSurfer | not if I'm the only one here :) |
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| 04:58.17 | Irishmanluke | hesco: I noticed that debian ships with in the menus a terminal and a root terminal. Is that they're suggested solution? seems less secure |
| 04:58.22 | lfs | Where is trash in Gnome? |
| 04:58.46 | Guerin | lfs: the whole thing is trash |
| 04:58.58 | lfs | I moved some stuff to trash. Does that mean its gone? |
| 04:59.07 | Irishmanluke | no |
| 04:59.16 | lfs | I like Gnome |
| 04:59.39 | hesco | try: xhost +local: |
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| 05:00.22 | hesco | RadSurfer: that was for you |
| 05:00.28 | RadSurfer | uhuh |
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| 05:00.38 | hesco | and make sure you go: xhost -local when you are done |
| 05:00.39 | h3xis | lfs: in gnome 2.26 it's in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ |
| 05:00.58 | RadSurfer | xhost: unable to open display "" |
| 05:01.16 | lfs | Shouldn't there be a trash icon? |
| 05:01.31 | h3xis | lfs: on the desktop? |
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| 05:01.40 | Irishmanluke | generally yes |
| 05:01.45 | hesco | how about xhost +root |
| 05:01.50 | hesco | does that help? |
| 05:01.55 | Irishmanluke | lfs: Is there a trash icon in nautilus? |
| 05:01.58 | lfs | right |
| 05:02.15 | RadSurfer | xhost: unable to open display "" |
| 05:02.37 | RadSurfer | is something not working properly? or what here? |
| 05:02.57 | h3xis | lfs, open configuration editor and go to apps > nautilus > desktop and check "trash_icon_visible" |
| 05:03.02 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: use gksudo instead of sudo |
| 05:03.33 | \amethyst | it does the appropriate forwarding of X credentials |
| 05:03.39 | lfs | Where is configuration editor? |
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| 05:03.56 | h3xis | lfs: dig around in the menu |
| 05:04.16 | \amethyst | lfs: package gconf-editor |
| 05:04.25 | RadSurfer | gksu ---> Gtk WARNING ** cannot open display: |
| 05:04.39 | RadSurfer | clearly, I'm missing something here |
| 05:04.43 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: run that as the user |
| 05:04.49 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: inside the X session |
| 05:05.49 | lfs | It says that package is not recomended |
| 05:06.20 | h3xis | lfs: you should have it installed already. in a terminal run gconf-editor |
| 05:06.25 | hesco | xhost +localhost |
| 05:06.29 | \amethyst | lfs: just like using the registry editor in Windows is not recommended |
| 05:06.48 | hesco | RadSurfer: xhost +localhost |
| 05:07.23 | RadSurfer | yeah. I haven't had to use that in ages, and I've forgotten it. Other distro's let you do dangerous stuff apparently. Including Fedora |
| 05:08.15 | h3xis | RadSurfer: youre under the assumption that your problem is the fault of debian, when it isnt. either you did something wrong or you had a bad install |
| 05:08.27 | hesco | RadSurfer: remember when all is said and done, to do: xhost -localhost |
| 05:08.44 | RadSurfer | how odd. Wonder what other issues I'll run into |
| 05:08.47 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: how did you become root? |
| 05:08.49 | Irishmanluke | hesco: is there a way to make nautilus show hidden directories? |
| 05:08.55 | RadSurfer | "su" |
| 05:09.01 | lfs | Did I have a trash icon to begin with? |
| 05:09.08 | h3xis | Irishmanluke: under View click Show hidden files |
| 05:09.10 | hesco | any ideas where I can put questions about chroot ? |
| 05:09.12 | RadSurfer | tried "su -" |
| 05:09.14 | RadSurfer | of course |
| 05:09.24 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: which one? |
| 05:09.26 | hesco | I don't use nautilus, try ls -a from a cli |
| 05:09.27 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: su - won't work |
| 05:09.32 | Irishmanluke | oh wow I should have seen that |
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| 05:09.42 | h3xis | lfs: youre supposed to :) |
| 05:09.47 | Irishmanluke | hesco: I was just about to ask you about ls |
| 05:09.51 | \amethyst | RadSurfer: because it resets the environment, so the shell doesn't see DISPLAY or XAUTH or any of those environment variables |
| 05:09.57 | lfs | I Must have moved the trash icon to trahs |
| 05:10.08 | RadSurfer | always seemed to work elsewhere. Ok. |
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| 05:12.28 | lfs | what is the command to get a list of users? |
| 05:12.36 | Irishmanluke | users |
| 05:12.47 | \amethyst | lfs: getent passwd |
| 05:13.43 | lfs | that works |
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| 05:15.30 | elohim | hi |
| 05:15.32 | lfs | my other user has a trash icon |
| 05:15.35 | elohim | anyone run virtualbox ? |
| 05:15.41 | h3xis | elohim: yes |
| 05:15.51 | elohim | Both Arch and Debian hosts, XP Guest. im in vboxusers, installed the guest additions, enabeled the corespondign filters, yet under the Devices menu, the USB Devices are "recognized", but greyed out. why. |
| 05:16.00 | elohim | and its' Not mounted in the host. |
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| 05:16.12 | elohim | tried two devices, a printer and usb hard drive. |
| 05:16.20 | zahna | what is a good way to see where my network traffic is going in debian? |
| 05:16.24 | h3xis | elohim: youre not using open source edition, right? |
| 05:16.27 | zahna | is there a flag for netstat? |
| 05:16.32 | elohim | h3xis: PUEL |
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| 05:16.36 | elohim | zahna: tcpdump |
| 05:16.55 | zahna | elohim: but the traffic is going by too fast for me to really see |
| 05:17.08 | elohim | zahna: so apply the filters you want to see. |
| 05:17.15 | elohim | what do you want to see zahna ? |
| 05:17.29 | h3xis | elohim: see this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-596949.html |
| 05:17.43 | zahna | i'd like to see an accumulating summary of how much traffic is going in/out on which ports |
| 05:18.05 | elohim | perhalps tcppick |
| 05:18.15 | zahna | is that part of default debian? |
| 05:18.20 | elohim | no |
| 05:18.54 | elohim | h3xis: any ideas ? |
| 05:18.54 | zahna | is what i'm wanting to do possible with default debian? |
| 05:19.05 | fxiny | tcpick is avaiable |
| 05:19.25 | \amethyst | elohim: VBoxManage list usbhost what does it say the current state is? |
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| 05:19.35 | elohim | they're in the repos yes |
| 05:19.44 | elohim | apt-get it zahna |
| 05:19.48 | h3xis | elohim: yeah. i had the same problem as you. di dyou read that thread? look at the bit that talks about "usb magic" |
| 05:19.55 | RadSurfer | this is rediculous! I can NOT launch ANY gui at all from a terminal? |
| 05:20.02 | h3xis | elohim: you need to edit a configuration file or two to get what you want |
| 05:20.21 | elohim | h3xis: aww there's a thread on this? got a link ? |
| 05:21.02 | elohim | \amethyst: Current State: Busy |
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| 05:21.21 | h3xis | elohim: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-596949.html it works for debian. read the "magic to make blah blah" post. i believe it's the third one down |
| 05:21.21 | elohim | \amethyst: i plugged it in after i turned the machne on |
| 05:21.35 | elohim | thankx pal |
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| 05:22.02 | \amethyst | elohim: you could try ejecting it on the host |
| 05:22.08 | Zoone | Good night! I would like your help in a test on my site. Please access www.brindesgratis.com and clicks on Google ads. Thank you. |
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| 05:22.21 | BigBob85 | hey |
| 05:22.35 | Zoone | ? |
| 05:22.48 | zahna | tcpick looks like tcpdump |
| 05:22.50 | BigBob85 | looking with the program htop, is it normal to see 12 mysqld's running? |
| 05:22.55 | lfs | How come I am obsessing about my missing trash icon? |
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| 05:23.16 | Jids | can anyone here help me set up wireless? i have a Ralink RT61/RT2561 card from Rosewill, if that helps any |
| 05:23.25 | BigBob85 | Its taking up 43% of my servers ram, any idea how I can reduce it? |
| 05:23.59 | elohim | \amethyst: meh still busy. |
| 05:24.02 | fxiny | zahna: check iptstate |
| 05:24.03 | lfs | kill command |
| 05:24.04 | elohim | i'll read what he gave me |
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| 05:24.34 | zahna | fxiny: ok |
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| 05:36.20 | lfs_ | I found the trash icon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:36.56 | fxiny | trash it :P |
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| 05:39.09 | lfs_ | Best thing that happend all day |
| 05:39.09 | simonrvn | BigBob85: mysql is one of the worst for this. postgres does it better (at just about everything). |
| 05:39.24 | fxiny | zahna: tcptrack can sort connections by rates and bytes |
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| 05:39.38 | BigBob85 | simonrvn, mmm.. |
| 05:39.39 | lfs_ | Then how come mysql is so popular? |
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| 05:41.53 | simonrvn | popular doesn't always mean the best |
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| 05:42.47 | \amethyst | lfs_: in part for historical reasons, in part because MyISAM is very fast |
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| 05:43.57 | simonrvn | i for one see pg 8.x being nearly as fast, at least on my db server, and no timing benchmarks, just very subjective |
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| 05:44.14 | \amethyst | lfs_: also, mysql replication is supposed to be much better than e.g. slony |
| 05:46.34 | RadSurfer | another problem: been trying to install "apt-get install win32codecs" and it just fails because of a bad signature key.... whats to be done? |
| 05:47.09 | craigevil | RadSurfer: apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring |
| 05:47.22 | RadSurfer | ah, of course :) |
| 05:49.07 | macrobat_ | RadSurfer: gksudo still not working? |
| 05:49.10 | fxiny | is dmm up ? |
| 05:49.24 | macrobat_ | (as user) |
| 05:49.36 | RadSurfer | that method works; just seems ackward |
| 05:49.52 | RadSurfer | I still can not install "win32codecs" is that the correct package? |
| 05:50.33 | fxiny | w32codecs |
| 05:50.37 | craigevil | w32codecs |
| 05:50.53 | fxiny | dmm seems down, here |
| 05:50.57 | RadSurfer | gosh. Thanks. |
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| 05:51.36 | elohim | h3xis: their mountdevsubfs.sh doesen't equal mine. i get noting when i grep usb |
| 05:53.44 | macrobat_ | RadSurfer: i forgot how you set up the gnome menu, but you could copy the nautilus item and place "gksudo" infront of the command |
| 05:54.36 | macrobat_ | then you have a gui way to root-priviledge filebrowsing |
| 05:54.50 | RadSurfer | I see. |
| 05:54.59 | RadSurfer | I just have new ways of learning in Debian. |
| 05:55.07 | RadSurfer | I'll catch on eventually :-) Thanks for patience. |
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| 06:02.54 | pp-popo | what is the best way to change my screen resolution? |
| 06:03.14 | cahoot | xrandr probably simplest |
| 06:03.36 | macrobat_ | do you have nvidia driver pp-popo ? |
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| 06:11.22 | pp-popo | macrobat_: yes, its an nvidia vid card. |
| 06:12.18 | pp-popo | cahoot: i saw the xrandr, tried running xrandr --fb 1680x1050, gives me an error: can't open display |
| 06:12.40 | cahoot | pp-popo: xrandra and nvidia are incompatible |
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| 06:13.08 | macrobat_ | nvidia-settings with root priviledges is easy, you can set resolution and let it write to xorg.conf |
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| 06:15.01 | pp-popo | macrobat_: i don't have nvidia-settings command |
| 06:15.10 | pp-popo | macrobat_: what package is it? |
| 06:15.19 | cahoot | pp-popo: i e nvidia as in the driver - not the card |
| 06:15.21 | BubbaT | I've trashed my system. Is there something like Belarc that will let me print out my system info so I can reconfigure quickly when I reinstall? |
| 06:16.18 | mick_laptop | BubbaT: what kind of "system info" |
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| 06:17.31 | pp-popo | cahoot: sorry I don't know if i have the driver installed? |
| 06:17.34 | mick_laptop | you can do dpkg -l | awk {' print $1 '} > my_packages.txt then save it to a file and reinstall those packages by passing them as an argument to aptitude/apt-get |
| 06:18.01 | macrobat_ | pp-popo: lsmod | grep nvidia |
| 06:18.20 | mick_laptop | BubbaT: s/save it to a file/save the file on some medium like a usb drive/ |
| 06:19.14 | hark | !aptitude clone |
| 06:19.15 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
| 06:19.43 | pp-popo | macrobat_: nope nothing |
| 06:20.15 | hark | pp-popo: it's in contrib |
| 06:20.18 | macrobat_ | then you dont have it as a module |
| 06:21.00 | pp-popo | hark: no i think you are talking about dist? if so, I am used main. i think |
| 06:21.26 | cahoot | pp-popo: then you probably use nv the free driver, xrandr only works on a running X |
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| 06:22.44 | pp-popo | cahoot: i am running x with 1280x1024, but i need to go to 1680x1050 |
| 06:22.52 | pp-popo | What is the best way? |
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| 06:23.11 | sparta | i want to install adobe flash in debian lenny....cant find any good package using aptitude |
| 06:23.27 | sparta | can anyone please suggest? |
| 06:23.41 | streuner__ | no |
| 06:23.44 | craigevil | !tell sparta about Adobe Flash |
| 06:23.51 | cahoot | pp-popo: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
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| 06:24.19 | streuner__ | pp-popo: well, its possible to use xorg.conf too |
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| 06:26.22 | streuner | sparta: you just want use flash in your browser, right? |
| 06:26.42 | RadSurfer | HOW do I install a .deb that I downloaded ;-) localinstall doesn't work |
| 06:26.51 | craigevil | dpkg -i foo |
| 06:26.52 | dpkg | package foo is already installed |
| 06:26.53 | streuner | what kind of deb is that? |
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| 06:27.36 | craigevil | RadSurfer: what package? |
| 06:27.40 | streuner | RadSurfer: whats the name of the package? |
| 06:27.52 | RadSurfer | it's Skype from skype.coom |
| 06:27.55 | RadSurfer | .com |
| 06:28.15 | shivraj | how much hd space would you need to install all debian packages ? |
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| 06:28.29 | shivraj | and what would the command be to accomplish this ? |
| 06:28.31 | sparta | i just want to use flash in my browser |
| 06:28.45 | streuner | shivraj: really all packages? |
| 06:28.59 | shivraj | sparta: get the flash installer from adobe |
| 06:29.00 | cahoot | shivraj: meaning all of debian - ie for all archs? |
| 06:29.01 | hark | you can't install all packages |
| 06:29.10 | shivraj | no i386 |
| 06:29.27 | craigevil | sparta: either use flashplugin-nonfree from backports or flashplayer-mozzilla from dmm |
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| 06:29.38 | hark | even all i386 |
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| 06:30.03 | sparta | craigevil: what is dmm? |
| 06:30.08 | shivraj | sparta: ie extract the file and copy it to your /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins dir :) |
| 06:30.11 | craigevil | debian-multimedia.org |
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| 06:30.49 | hugo | I've been suffering problem using "RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)" on linux. its too unstable. do you guys have any recommendation that is known to be stable on lenny? |
| 06:30.49 | shivraj | hark: certainly it is possible but how much hd space ? |
| 06:31.28 | craigevil | shivraj: that is not the recommended method, then you have to track when it gets updated, it is always better to install from repos |
| 06:31.46 | shivraj | craigevil: right . |
| 06:32.07 | hark | shivraj: what about conflicts? |
| 06:32.41 | rvalles | hugo: using latest kernel? |
| 06:32.41 | shivraj | oh ok, well it was a dumb question |
| 06:33.00 | rvalles | hugo: I used to have trouble with mine (8111) but with recent kernels it's alright. |
| 06:33.16 | rvalles | recent as in 29 or 30 |
| 06:33.29 | hugo | rvalles: i'd rather stay with lenny |
| 06:33.32 | streuner | shivraj: well, you would plenty of space in order to install everything |
| 06:33.49 | streuner | shivraj: need* |
| 06:33.59 | craigevil | hugo: 2.6.30 is in backports |
| 06:34.04 | rvalles | hugo: you can stay with lenny and build a new kernel (or maybe use some backports repo) |
| 06:34.26 | rvalles | hugo: it's better than having network problems, or spending money in hardware you don't really need. |
| 06:34.31 | streuner | !debstats |
| 06:34.31 | dpkg | debstats is managed by sussudio, http://debstats.dontexist.org/ (#debian FN) or http://members.ziggo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html (#debian OFTC) |
| 06:34.50 | craigevil | hugo: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1 |
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| 06:34.55 | hugo | rvalles: craigevil mine was unstable even with 2.6.30... |
| 06:34.56 | streuner | hm, whats the factoid again in order to show how many debs are in Debian? |
| 06:35.14 | rvalles | hugo: that's too bad :/ |
| 06:35.30 | rvalles | r8169 is rock solid in my experience, but pci (not pci-e) |
| 06:35.44 | rvalles | and I don't have any experience with others |
| 06:35.58 | streuner | !dstats |
| 06:36.08 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 25913 packages, 2039 maintainers, 72600 MB installed size, 26492 MB compressed size. |
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| 06:36.37 | RadSurfer | Debian 5.0.2 doesn't use qt4 ? |
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| 06:36.43 | streuner | only 72 Gigs, prolly for ONE arch |
| 06:36.45 | owen1 | how to install only dependencies of a package? |
| 06:36.51 | owen1 | (with aptitude) |
| 06:37.23 | craigevil | owen1: you mean just the depends rather than the recommends as well? aptitude install foo -R |
| 06:37.51 | owen1 | craigevil: thanks |
| 06:38.14 | lfs_ | What command to extract a zip file? |
| 06:38.25 | macrobat_ | unzip :) |
| 06:38.42 | hugo | rvalles: it doesn't matter when it comes to nic |
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| 06:40.45 | lfs_ | unzip isn't working. |
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| 06:41.50 | streuner | !doesn't work |
| 06:41.50 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 06:42.59 | sparta | i am trying to install flashplayer for amd64 version however its asking for nspluginwrapper, ia32-libs-libcurl3 and ia32-libs-libnss3 |
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| 06:43.36 | lfs_ | ununsupported compression method 99 |
| 06:43.36 | lfs_ | supported compression method 99 |
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| 06:43.58 | streuner | lfs: file <foo.zip> |
| 06:44.38 | streuner | lfs_: file <foo.zip> |
| 06:45.23 | lfs_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.23 | lfs_ | 05L_mXfP20090712020511.zip: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract |
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| 06:45.58 | RadSurfer | Not quite as straightforward as Redhat, but Skype and Camera appear completely happy now :-) |
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| 06:47.02 | craigevil | sparta: from backports> apt-get -t lenny-backports install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 06:54.34 | y7deluxe | is there any downside to downloading the 64-bit version of debian over the 32bit? |
| 06:54.41 | y7deluxe | any negatives at all....? |
| 06:55.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | it only works on x86_64? |
| 06:56.09 | y7deluxe | what's that mean? |
| 06:56.36 | hark | also the size of the 64 bit iso is greater ;) |
| 06:56.43 | y7deluxe | i'm a linux noobie and i know that when 64bit came out, there were issues running it. i was just wondering if those issues have been resolved with debian. |
| 06:56.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | you asked for any downside. ifyou have 32bit x86 it wont work on them |
| 06:56.53 | y7deluxe | oh, ok, roger that :) |
| 06:57.28 | y7deluxe | and if i'm installing to an intel 64-bit system, which dl do i want to grab? |
| 06:57.45 | hark | y7deluxe: yes, most of those issues have been resolved |
| 06:57.52 | hark | y7deluxe: amd64 |
| 06:58.00 | y7deluxe | amd64 on an intel cpu? |
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| 06:59.23 | craigevil | !tell y7deluxe about why amd64 |
| 06:59.32 | y7deluxe | ty sir |
| 06:59.51 | DanDare | why when ntp service is up in Lenny i got something like: "'ntpd' service running in legacy mode" ? |
| 07:00.01 | Amse | wtf ntp |
| 07:00.07 | Amse | deluxe: |
| 07:00.14 | Amse | amd is only a name |
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| 07:00.22 | Amse | just forget and try |
| 07:00.32 | Amse | and if it doesn't works |
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| 07:00.46 | Amse | try/error -> try/etc |
| 07:00.54 | DanDare | my proccessor is Celeron 1.1Ghz |
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| 07:01.32 | y7deluxe | so how do you figure out which of these you want: [alpha][amd64][arm][armel][hppa][i386][ia64][mips][mipsel][powerpc][sparc][s390][source][multi-arch] ..... is there a link somewhere to read up on the difference with all of them? |
| 07:02.10 | DanDare | y7deluxe, it just depends on the type of your hardware, in this case your proccessor |
| 07:02.10 | piscooo | don't you know what archiecture you've got? |
| 07:02.28 | DanDare | looks like not piscooo |
| 07:02.30 | Amse | omg |
| 07:02.34 | piscooo | :) |
| 07:02.47 | y7deluxe | DanDare, so if amd and intel both use amd64, what are all of the other ones for? |
| 07:03.00 | Amse | no |
| 07:03.06 | piscooo | intel 386 would use i386 |
| 07:03.11 | Amse | amd is only the company |
| 07:03.30 | DanDare | y7deluxe, well, amd64 for amd |
| 07:03.42 | \amethyst | amd64 is 64-bit intel/amd, i386 is 32-bit intel/amd(/etc) |
| 07:03.46 | DanDare | ia64 for intel (those ones for 64bit processors !) |
| 07:03.54 | \amethyst | err |
| 07:03.55 | \amethyst | no |
| 07:04.02 | Amse | no |
| 07:04.04 | \amethyst | ia64 is for itanium |
| 07:04.14 | y7deluxe | what about mips and mipsel, popwerpc, etc...? |
| 07:04.19 | piscooo | Can somebody please have a look on http://pastebin.com/m691035ad and see what I can do. I don't want to upgrade the kernel. I just want to solve that as now I cannot complie anything. |
| 07:04.33 | \amethyst | y7deluxe: powerpc was what macs used before switching to Intel a few years ago |
| 07:04.45 | \amethyst | y7deluxe: IBM makes powerpc workstations |
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| 07:05.09 | hark | !qotd230 |
| 07:05.09 | dpkg | <SkyDreamer> i'm still laughing at my first attempt <SkyDreamer> i downloaded for 3 days <SkyDreamer> 4 dvd images <SkyDreamer> and to find out there for another machine type :)) <SkyDreamer> thinking alpha is pre-beta or smth |
| 07:05.14 | piscooo | y7deluxe: you can read all about archiectures on wikipedia |
| 07:05.20 | \amethyst | y7deluxe: HPPA are HP/UX workstations; MIPS are older Unix workstations and some devices like routers etc |
| 07:05.33 | y7deluxe | so amd64 for any 64-bit amd or intel cpu and then i386 for any 32-bit intel or amd processor? |
| 07:05.46 | piscooo | lol |
| 07:05.49 | \amethyst | y7deluxe: yes |
| 07:05.52 | DanDare | i have the message in Lenny: "[ 22.239865] warning: `ntpd' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)" but im not using a 64bit proccessor. some clue ? |
| 07:05.53 | y7deluxe | ok, ty guys |
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| 07:06.33 | \amethyst | y7deluxe: on a 64-bit CPU you can use either the amd64 version or the i386 version; amd64 supports more RAM and may be faster, while i386 may be more compatible |
| 07:06.37 | piscooo | DanDare: get 64-bits release |
| 07:06.45 | piscooo | ah, nvm |
| 07:07.04 | y7deluxe | \amethyst, which would you recommend on a 64-bit cpu? |
| 07:07.12 | piscooo | \amethyst: would appreicate if you could have a look on my pastebin. |
| 07:07.13 | \amethyst | y7deluxe: probably amd64 |
| 07:07.19 | y7deluxe | roger that, ty |
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| 07:08.11 | hark | piscooo: upgrade your kernel as mentioned there |
| 07:08.34 | \amethyst | piscooo: or try downgrading libc6 and friends |
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| 07:09.34 | hark | oh wait |
| 07:09.49 | piscooo | hark: as mensioned - I don't want to do that. |
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| 07:11.10 | piscooo | \amethyst: http://pastebin.com/m26326a43 :( |
| 07:11.35 | hark | piscooo: use etch sources |
| 07:11.35 | \amethyst | piscooo: so downgrade it |
| 07:11.58 | piscooo | well - I don't want to upgrade a kernel if something fails (co-location with 200 miles away) |
| 07:12.10 | piscooo | no ILIO-card in it. |
| 07:12.26 | \amethyst | piscooo: e.g. dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6.ds1-13etch8_i386.deb |
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| 07:13.01 | piscooo | that worked fine, but |
| 07:13.10 | piscooo | sec |
| 07:13.16 | piscooo | seems to work fine. |
| 07:13.18 | piscooo | thanks |
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| 07:14.18 | piscooo | damn. Whenever I do 'apt-get upgrade' I get |
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| 07:14.35 | piscooo | http://pastebin.com/m5ca45581 |
| 07:14.47 | y7deluxe | which one do i need to download: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/amd64/iso-cd/ ? |
| 07:15.04 | \amethyst | piscooo: you'll have to downgrade those too |
| 07:15.10 | hark | piscooo: you have stable in your sources.list, change it to etch or oldstable |
| 07:15.32 | piscooo | what shall I do? change to each/oldstable or downgrade? |
| 07:15.38 | \amethyst | both |
| 07:16.03 | adb | dpkg: tell y7deluxe about net install |
| 07:16.03 | piscooo | how? I know how to change to each |
| 07:16.05 | piscooo | sec |
| 07:16.17 | lfs_ | where are the wine files? |
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| 07:16.37 | y7deluxe | adb, i wanted the 650mb disk to try and dl as much now as i can since i'm going to let it run over night... that way i don't have to wait as long during installation.... |
| 07:16.44 | \amethyst | piscooo: find the etch version of locales and libogg0 and install those |
| 07:17.07 | \amethyst | piscooo: e.g. http://packages.debian.org/etch/locales |
| 07:17.44 | y7deluxe | adb, the problem is, there are lots of different iso's when i go to the 650mb dl... how do i know which one i want? |
| 07:17.45 | adb | y7deluxe: CD-1 than is enough |
| 07:17.50 | y7deluxe | roger that, ty |
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| 07:18.05 | \amethyst | piscooo: you can use either aptitude install locales=2.3.6.ds1-13etch9 or dpkg -i it from /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 07:18.14 | quitte | hi. after I enabled kernel mode switching x hangs shortly after logging in. where can i find the most recent instructions? i have a vague feeling that I'm missing some option to the i915 module |
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| 07:18.25 | lfs_ | Where is c:/ in Wine? |
| 07:18.46 | quitte | lfs_: ~/.wine/drive_c or something like that |
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| 07:19.21 | quentusrex | Can someone please help me debug gnutls problems |
| 07:19.34 | mactimes | Hi. I had to replace the CMOS battery of my computer, fix the timezone, date and time. Now sudo says "timestamp too far in the future". Any ideas on how do I solve that? |
| 07:19.46 | quentusrex | I am using TinyCA2 to generate and manage my certificates and keys, |
| 07:19.55 | sfdsd | hi |
| 07:20.06 | quentusrex | but now that I'm trying to setup openldap I've found that gnutls can't handle my certificates.... |
| 07:20.13 | quentusrex | and I can't find out why.... |
| 07:20.35 | sfdsd | anybody, could you help me solving this mounting FS truble..... mounted filesystem with ordered data mode kjournald starting. commit interval |
| 07:20.40 | quitte | quentusrex: openldap has gnutls support now? not long ago it was openssl only |
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| 07:20.54 | quentusrex | quitte: I wish I could use openssl |
| 07:21.21 | quentusrex | I have to run this on an ubuntu system... |
| 07:21.26 | sfdsd | I tried different ways mount my rootfs, but it doesn't. |
| 07:21.29 | quentusrex | and 9.04 has openldap with gnutls... |
| 07:21.33 | \amethyst | mactimes: sudo -K |
| 07:21.44 | mactimes | \amethyst: I'll check that. Thanks. |
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| 07:22.10 | sfdsd | and I tried convert my ext3 to ext2, anyway it errors hapenning again |
| 07:22.39 | \amethyst | mactimes: if that doesn't work, remove the timestamp manually: /var/run/sudo/<username> |
| 07:22.52 | sfdsd | I checkout my disk by e2fsck |
| 07:23.16 | mactimes | \amethyst: Hum. Really didn't work, same message. I'll try the second method now. |
| 07:23.30 | sfdsd | please, suggest to me something... |
| 07:23.32 | mactimes | \amethyst: Now we have a problem. |
| 07:23.36 | \amethyst | mactimes: oh |
| 07:23.42 | \amethyst | mactimes: no other way to become root? |
| 07:23.42 | pp-popo | ok i have tried long and hard, I am stuck with 1280x1024, and i need to get to 1680x1050. I just installed lenny i have an nvidia7800 vid card. What can i do? i tried running xrandr without lucky. |
| 07:23.44 | mactimes | I don't have permissions on /var/run/sudo |
| 07:23.48 | \amethyst | mactimes: you don't know the root password? |
| 07:24.12 | mactimes | \amethyst: Nope, I usually lock the root account after setting up sudo. |
| 07:24.38 | mactimes | \amethyst: I guess I'll have to reset root account then. |
| 07:24.38 | \amethyst | mactimes: boot to single-user mode, or mount your fs from a live cd |
| 07:25.12 | mactimes | \amethyst: It's ok. I can recover the root password, just didn't want to go all the way if there was a better way for fixing sudo. |
| 07:25.18 | mactimes | \amethyst: Thank you. |
| 07:25.32 | \amethyst | and sudo refuses to even ask you for a password? |
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| 07:25.57 | mactimes | \amethyst: Same message always. |
| 07:26.06 | mactimes | \amethyst: Timestampo too far in the future. |
| 07:26.12 | cattellar | i know it's a dumb question, but is it safe to say that debian testing is stable? |
| 07:26.29 | \amethyst | the manual says the timestamp will be ignored and sudo will log and complain, but it doesn't say it will abort the sudo attempt |
| 07:26.31 | quitte | it's safe to say that testing is squeeze |
| 07:26.32 | mactimes | Well, it's just 8 hours ahead (according to the time I had to set), I think I'll just wait a bit and see. |
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| 07:26.59 | cattellar | yeah but, is it susceptible to crashes/broken packages? |
| 07:27.03 | mactimes | \amethyst: Well, I _usually_ follow the manual, but it's certainly not correct this time. |
| 07:27.07 | adb | quitte: YES |
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| 07:27.57 | quitte | cattellar: it is not stable. it's not sid, either |
| 07:29.27 | adb | dpkg: tell quitte about backport |
| 07:29.42 | quitte | adb: broken tab completion? |
| 07:30.15 | quitte | adb: tell cattellar about backports |
| 07:30.29 | mactimes | \amethyst: I just checked, it's less than 6 hours from now until the hour of the timestamp. I have no hurry, everything is fine, except for that. I think I'll just wait and see. |
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| 07:30.49 | mactimes | \amethyst: Thank you for the support. |
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| 07:41.15 | pp-popo | ok i have tried long and hard, I am stuck with 1280x1024, and i need to get to 1680x1050. I just installed debian's lenny i have an nvidia7800 vid card. What can i do? i tried running xrandr without lucky. |
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| 07:42.30 | piscooo | What cli-application can you recommend to resize multiple images? (.jpg) |
| 07:43.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | imagemagick |
| 07:43.41 | Kamping_Kaiser | 'resize' |
| 07:44.50 | piscooo | Kamping_Kaiser: SEE-ALSO convert(1), identify(1), composite(1), montage(1), compare(1), display(1), animate(1), import(1), conjure(1), quantize(5), miff(4) |
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| 07:44.58 | piscooo | resize is not in there |
| 07:44.59 | piscooo | hmm |
| 07:46.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm |
| 07:46.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | piscooo: |
| 07:46.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | convert -verbose $DIR/$IMG -resize 30% $DIR/small-$IMG |
| 07:47.09 | Kamping_Kaiser | (assuming you defined dir and img) |
| 07:47.12 | macrobat_ | pp-popo: you need an nvidia driver installed |
| 07:47.12 | piscooo | cool |
| 07:47.48 | pp-popo | i see that xorg is using the vesa, how do i get it to use nv driver |
| 07:48.20 | pp-popo | macrobat_: what is the best way to install nvidia server |
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| 07:48.27 | pp-popo | driver |
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| 07:49.03 | Sativa | http://ihatejade.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=c8d3b2637c33fbe7c3ade2c277a51278 |
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| 07:49.13 | unop | pp-popo, it's all documented here http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 07:49.15 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 07:52.58 | mesut | hi, does --exclude also work when untarring an archive? ie i have a complete backup of /, want to untar it,all directories and files,except /data |
| 07:53.01 | macrobat_ | pp-popo: maybe this helps when you have read through the wiki article http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10812 |
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| 07:59.11 | mactimes | \amethyst: Solved. I couldn't wait. Can't see a problem and stand still. Once again, thanks. |
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| 08:01.06 | nsadmin | mactimes and you gained experience doing so |
| 08:01.14 | pp-popo | maybe this is my problem.. I am trying to edit my xorg.conf, and the file is blank. Is this a problem? |
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| 08:01.57 | nsadmin | no that's normal |
| 08:02.04 | nsadmin | everything's autodetected |
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| 08:02.40 | mactimes | nsadmin: Well, not that much experience. Just forwarded the hardware clock, disconnected the computer from Internet so it wouldn't update system time from ntp and did the sudo -k thing. Rebooted, configured the hardware clock to the correct time and started the system up again. |
| 08:04.08 | pp-popo | nsadmin: so how do i edit it to use the nvdia driver? |
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| 08:06.16 | nsadmin | that part I dunno |
| 08:06.24 | nsadmin | and I'll need to |
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| 08:06.35 | nsadmin | plus I want to try that new nvidia driver |
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| 08:07.22 | amine | hey |
| 08:07.51 | amine | if I want to install qemu/kqemu-source latest versions from sid.. how can I do it in lenny without bringing the whole system to sid |
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| 08:10.20 | nsadmin | !nvidia |
| 08:10.20 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 08:10.32 | Eulex | !tell amine about ssb |
| 08:11.32 | amine | thanks |
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| 08:14.04 | Supaplex | turns all of simonrvn's network binary bits upside down, while preserving order and values |
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| 08:14.59 | fxiny | weird |
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| 08:22.32 | simonrvn | passes them through netcat and flips them back around |
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| 08:23.27 | anddam | hello |
| 08:23.33 | anddam | how can I set aptitude default output format? |
| 08:23.43 | anddam | I mean for search output |
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| 08:28.08 | alsd | hi there |
| 08:28.32 | alsd | i'm having trouble with the daily debian-installer snapshot -- is it the right place to ask? |
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| 08:32.14 | alsd | well anyway, using the businesscard d-i snapshot found at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html, I launched an install in expert mode, for a fresh lenny install, partitionning hard drive as LVM, assisted partitionning, /home /usr /var on separate partitions. All goes well and good until mke2fs tries to run, but fails saying "<partition> is apparently in use by the system; will not make a partition here" |
| 08:32.23 | alsd | has someone a clue? |
| 08:32.50 | alsd | I just tried replacing ext3 with reiserfs, same problem (the message is different, but seems like the underlying problem is the same) |
| 08:34.22 | luke1704 | Hello, I'am wondering how to install a package from one explicit source among all listed sources in sources.list using apt-get. Does anybody now what I have to do? |
| 08:34.37 | alsd | well, the message is more precise : "could not open /dev/mapper/debian-home : Device or resource busy" |
| 08:35.10 | anddam | luka: pinning? |
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| 08:35.40 | luke1704 | what's prinning? |
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| 08:35.48 | Arafangion | What's the easiest way to have a video chat with someone (who uses windows)? Skype doesn't work. (Because I'm too cheap to have a microphone connected, but I've got a webcam for crying out loud!) |
| 08:36.02 | anddam | !tell luke1704 about pinning |
| 08:36.11 | luke1704 | thanks! |
| 08:36.17 | anddam | yw! |
| 08:36.53 | anddam | Arafangion: doesn't skype work without a connected mic? |
| 08:36.54 | alsd | Arafangion: my first guess is that "someone" doesn't "use" windows, it's used by it. but anyway ;) |
| 08:37.05 | anddam | that sounds weird |
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| 08:37.20 | Arafangion | anddam: Apparently there is a "problem with your audio settings" in that case. (Correct - I'm completely deaf) |
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| 08:37.53 | anddam | Arafangion: I wonder how can skype determine if there's a mic plugged in |
| 08:37.58 | michael_ja | http://rapidshare.com/files/254231300/home_made_crazy_blonde_lolita.rar |
| 08:38.19 | Arafangion | anddam: It, by default, also adjusts your mixer levels. I'd be willing to bet it's got fancy heuristics. |
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| 08:38.48 | anddam | Arafangion: well I noticed that as it was driving me crazy on the ibook |
| 08:39.02 | anddam | Arafangion: still with a mic in input it shold check input levels, sound a bit too invasive |
| 08:39.18 | anddam | Arafangion: and I can't help you with your actual problem |
| 08:39.20 | Arafangion | anddam: What do you expect, this is skype. |
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| 08:51.38 | valdyn | Arafangion: google chat, on linux via empathy, in windows via the google browser plugin |
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| 08:52.00 | gigo | What is the difference between 'user' and 'sys' time reported by 'time' command? |
| 08:52.23 | valdyn | gigo: time spent by running code in user mode and time spent running kernel code |
| 08:52.46 | gigo | and real need not be equal to user + sys |
| 08:52.54 | gigo | am I correct in saying that real >= user + sys? |
| 08:53.09 | valdyn | gigo: rounding errors, idle wait |
| 08:53.18 | valdyn | gigo: yes |
| 08:53.48 | gigo | i have an output where real is : 0.001, user: 0.000, sys: 0.004 |
| 08:53.52 | gigo | how? is real less than sys? |
| 08:54.00 | Arafangion | valdyn: I didn't consider that option, thanks! |
| 08:54.01 | gigo | i mean, how is real less than sys? |
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| 08:54.39 | valdyn | gigo: you cannot use this to benchmark milliseconds really |
| 08:54.46 | gigo | ok |
| 08:54.54 | fi9o | Hi all |
| 08:55.04 | gigo | so you mean, if my process runs for 3 or 10 seconds, then I will have sane output values? |
| 08:55.11 | valdyn | gigo: yes |
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| 08:57.03 | anddam | bye |
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| 09:00.05 | cliffbreaker | hey guys. think to change for debian and wonder if you will advise me it for everyday desktop use |
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| 09:02.36 | luke1704 | one more question: apt-get install -t experimental 'package' enables to install a package in experimental status. What to do if this package has dependencies and I would like force to update all dependent packages too? |
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| 09:03.28 | luke1704 | Is there also a way to revert if something goes wrong? |
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| 09:04.34 | pepperbob | luke1704: taking packages from experimental implies that something will break one day... |
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| 09:05.08 | luke1704 | hm, so you don't recommend using it |
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| 09:05.52 | pepperbob | luke1704: well, why would you want to do that? |
| 09:06.19 | pepperbob | cliffbreaker: sure thing. though some people may say that software versions are a little outdated. |
| 09:06.44 | p0g0_ | luke1704: mixing releases is generally a short trip to version conflicts and things breaking. |
| 09:06.51 | cahoot | cliffbreaker: everyday use is a broad term |
| 09:06.52 | luke1704 | by the moment there are some interesting releases: like firefox 3.5, vlc 1.0, and openoffice 3.1 to update |
| 09:07.22 | valdyn | luke1704: reverting can only be done by purging the packages |
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| 09:07.23 | pepperbob | ah.. here we go :) |
| 09:07.33 | valdyn | luke1704: that might be hard or impossible |
| 09:08.06 | cliffbreaker | pepperbob: well. i don't care for software release numbers while it works properly. last time I installed etch and had problems with banshee - it just hung on startup. Is this solved in lenny? |
| 09:08.18 | valdyn | luke1704: downgrading may work or not, does need even more understanding of what you're doing however |
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| 09:09.32 | Arafangion | Hmm, I'm guessing that Debian's empathy program is way too old. |
| 09:09.32 | luke1704 | Ok, I know: Debian is well known as a distribution for stability, therefore I understand that it will take a while till this packages will get available |
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| 09:09.56 | pepperbob | cliffbreaker: well, regarding the versions: luke1704 just got that "problem" of older versions... :) what are you using actually? |
| 09:09.58 | cliffbreaker | cahoot: well I need browse internet, need flash, need to listen to music, to edit documents, to watch dvds (with menus - a great problem for all distros), and finally to learn linux. Now I'm running archlinux |
| 09:10.08 | luke1704 | Otherwise I could switch to Ubuntu, but this isn't what I want to |
| 09:10.08 | Arafangion | luke1704: If you must take something from a different release, you can "backport" it - that is, recompile it. |
| 09:10.23 | valdyn | cliffbreaker: thats not a great problem for all distros |
| 09:10.37 | dutchfish | !debianlove |
| 09:10.37 | dpkg | it has been said that debianlove is the more i gain knowledge about linux, the more i like debian. Ask me about <whydebian> too. For more info look also at http://wiki.debian.org. |
| 09:10.47 | cahoot | cliffbreaker: arch doesn't fit the bill? |
| 09:10.47 | Arafangion | valdyn: Well, the flash thing is more difficult on some distros. ;) |
| 09:11.05 | valdyn | cliffbreaker: you would need a for-pay commercial distro to get licensed dvd playback installed |
| 09:11.05 | cliffbreaker | pepperbob: openoffice, firefox, xchat, transmission, need a good dvd player, good music manager etc. everyday use |
| 09:11.05 | Arafangion | cliffbreaker: I find that Totem, in Debian Stable, works just fine for DVD's. |
| 09:11.21 | valdyn | cliffbreaker: or just use unofficial repositories |
| 09:11.24 | cliffbreaker | arafangion: with menus? |
| 09:11.24 | p0g0_ | is a vlc fan |
| 09:11.47 | Arafangion | cliffbreaker: Well, I get the awful menus designed by kids with college arts degrees, so I would assume so, yes. |
| 09:11.56 | cliffbreaker | cahoot: too bleeding-edge, so have some problems |
| 09:12.42 | hugo | any successfully running kvm on lenny? i'm getting this error http://pastebin.com/db96157e |
| 09:12.42 | Arafangion | cliffbreaker: The big differentiator really is flash - best stick to 32-bit intel. |
| 09:12.47 | cliffbreaker | well, I think I must try build xbmc package for debian |
| 09:13.02 | hugo | not sure why i'm getting this |
| 09:13.05 | cliffbreaker | Arafangion: yes, I just downloaded this very version |
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| 09:13.08 | hugo | any clue? |
| 09:13.12 | pepperbob | cliffbreaker: well that will do then i guess. can't help ya with the banshee issue. never used it .. |
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| 09:13.22 | p0g0_ | cliffbreaker: for grins, you might try the sidux live cd, or it's multi-media cousin mrynix www.sidux.com -I'm not sure where myrnix lives. |
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| 09:14.02 | cliffbreaker | p0g0: thx, I will have a look at it |
| 09:14.09 | dutchfish | hugo, and that vm isnt already running? |
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| 09:14.15 | pepperbob | must admit he uses ubuntu as desktop os |
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| 09:14.35 | liable | !coffee p0g0_ |
| 09:14.35 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of organic, fair trade Tanzanian for p0g0_, courtesy of liable |
| 09:14.38 | cliffbreaker | by the way, anyone built xbmc for debian? |
| 09:14.40 | LauraXXX | http://Pupytes.net/m/?X=VEdGMWNtRT18KipAKip8TmpJdU9EQXVNalF5TGpZMg== |
| 09:14.41 | LauraXXX | http://Pupytes.net/m/?X=VEdGMWNtRT18KipAKip8TmpJdU9EQXVNalF5TGpZMg== |
| 09:14.43 | liable | aloha |
| 09:14.47 | hugo | dutchfish: "virsh -c qemu:///system list " gave me nothing |
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| 09:14.47 | p0g0_ | oooh! |
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| 09:15.05 | p0g0_ | !beer liable |
| 09:15.05 | dpkg | pours a pint of Spaten Pils for liable |
| 09:15.07 | dutchfish | hugo, why you dont use kvm --foo directly? |
| 09:15.14 | liable | \o/ |
| 09:15.26 | teknishun | Hi, this is not a debian related issue but since no one is talking in #kopete, I thought someone can give me a hint. The problem is - when using Kopete with Gtalk, it seems to 'forget' the password everytime I close kopete (I have remember password checked). It works just fine with Yahoo & when I enter password manually, I can connect to Gtalk servers |
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| 09:15.53 | dutchfish | hugo, http://wiki.debian.org/KVM |
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| 09:16.15 | hugo | dutchfish: kmv --foo?? |
| 09:16.21 | hugo | dutchfish: yeah i read that page |
| 09:16.27 | liable | p0g0_: how goes things? |
| 09:16.34 | dutchfish | hugo, hold on i google examples |
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| 09:17.05 | p0g0_ | liable: Real Good. |
| 09:17.11 | hugo | dutchfish: thanks :) |
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| 09:17.34 | mjt | hugo: there are #kvm on freenode and #virt on oftc dedicated for kvm and virtsh/libvirt |
| 09:17.46 | liable | excellant |
| 09:18.00 | dutchfish | hugo, check also that libvirtio is installed and does work aka is your modile loaded |
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| 09:18.14 | dutchfish | s/,odile/module |
| 09:19.11 | mjt | but seriously, i wonder why people don't use kvm directly and are trying virsh thing instead. |
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| 09:19.16 | hugo | dutchfish: you mean libvirt-bin? i have it |
| 09:19.23 | dutchfish | hugo, create your images like this: qemu-img create -f qcow2 c.img 3G |
| 09:19.27 | dutchfish | hugo, yes |
| 09:19.48 | grand_grunt | hugo: What are you virtualizing? :) |
| 09:20.46 | hugo | grand_grunt: thinking to run another distro and some bsds |
| 09:20.54 | hugo | dutchfish: worked |
| 09:21.08 | dutchfish | hugo, this might also be handy to get strated as lenny has it in its repo: http://virt-manager.et.redhat.com/ |
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| 09:21.46 | dustybin | what the heck is going on |
| 09:21.53 | dustybin | i have installed debian lenny / XFCE desktop |
| 09:21.56 | hugo | dutchfish: so why am i getting Domain named vm11 already exists!? |
| 09:22.09 | dustybin | it boots and works ok, however, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is 0 bytes |
| 09:22.11 | dustybin | there is nothing in it |
| 09:22.13 | dustybin | ?!!! |
| 09:22.26 | hugo | dustybin: can i drop this vm10? |
| 09:22.30 | mjt | dustybin: why do you suggest using virsh/etc instead of kvm directly? Curious. |
| 09:22.45 | dutchfish | hugo, because you started a vm and process reservation took place, however kvm could not release it, just reboot your machine |
| 09:22.49 | mjt | dustybin: and for your x11 thing... it's normal to have 0-byte xorg.conf |
| 09:23.05 | dutchfish | hugo, check the logs |
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| 09:23.14 | dustybin | mjt: i need to edit it to change my resolution, but there is nothing to edit? |
| 09:23.31 | hugo | dutchfish: no way to stop it without restarting whole system? |
| 09:23.32 | grand_grunt | Just copy another xorg.conf from the Web |
| 09:23.39 | dustybin | thinks something fishy is going on |
| 09:23.43 | dustybin | grand_grunt: thats the lame way out |
| 09:23.45 | mjt | nothing fishy |
| 09:23.48 | rattlehead | hello |
| 09:23.59 | dustybin | X11 should be able to create one for me |
| 09:24.00 | dutchfish | hugo, this happens to me too often in 2.6.26 debian kernels with kvm72, so i build my own vanilla from 2.6.30-1 and things work now smooth as silkl |
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| 09:24.02 | mjt | modern xorg figures everything out by its owne |
| 09:24.14 | grand_grunt | dustybin: That's a way that works faster than reading twice all xorg.conf man to create a file line after line :D |
| 09:24.15 | dutchfish | s/silkl/silk |
| 09:24.16 | dustybin | mjt: modern xorg has figured out the wrong res |
| 09:24.35 | mjt | if you want to change something, add just that section and that parameter. |
| 09:24.43 | dustybin | so how can i correct modern xorg? |
| 09:25.01 | dutchfish | hugo, you maybe can kill the right process or restart the kvm modules |
| 09:25.03 | mjt | !dpkg xorg.conf |
| 09:25.04 | rattlehead | I'm running epiphany-webkit 2.27.3 and (in contrast to epiphany-gecko) "open in new tab" in drop down menus are missing. Is it a feature or somebody has forgot to add that? |
| 09:25.07 | dutchfish | hugo, dont know how |
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| 09:25.39 | fxiny | dutchfish: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 09:26.23 | mjt | !dpkg tell dutchfish about xorg |
| 09:26.29 | hugo | dutchfish: hah, lame |
| 09:27.07 | dutchfish | scratches head to figure out why the randr link was pasted to him |
| 09:27.11 | mjt | !dpkg drxx |
| 09:27.11 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root; this will overwrite your xorg.conf but your old file will be backed up. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier) ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with <xrandr>. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however, using the output of X -configure as a template. |
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| 09:27.53 | hugo | dutchfish: got this "Domain installation still in progress. You can reconnect to the console to complete the installation process." |
| 09:28.09 | hugo | dutchfish: hwo can i connect to the console? |
| 09:28.23 | dutchfish | hugo, use virtmanager for that ;) |
| 09:28.47 | hugo | dutchfish: no x here... |
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| 09:29.22 | dutchfish | hugo, normally through vnc |
| 09:29.37 | dutchfish | hugo, whats installed in that domain? |
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| 09:30.02 | hugo | dutchfish: c.img you just mentioned |
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| 09:30.29 | dutchfish | hugo, so its not running (yet) you only got process reservation somehow it got stuck |
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| 09:31.14 | Interphase | when I run unrar file.rar, it says a whole ton of files failed, but some were OK. How can I make this work properly? |
| 09:31.20 | hugo | dutchfish: created another one which uses bsd installer image. |
| 09:31.20 | Interphase | it works fine in windows |
| 09:31.21 | dutchfish | hugo, thats wa only to create an image for the vm to install in, that oneliner did not boot anyhting |
| 09:31.34 | dutchfish | hugo, ah ok |
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| 09:32.22 | dutchfish | hugo, i would reboot and install virtmanager, till you get in depth figured out how to do that all on the commandline, man kvm |
| 09:33.01 | dutchfish | hugo, virtmanager can connect to remote kvm servers also |
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| 09:33.13 | hugo | dutchfish: i expect if i could connect to the console, i could see the installer |
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| 09:33.47 | hugo | dutchfish: okay. rebooting |
| 09:33.55 | dutchfish | hugo, i doubt it at this time, it prolly just trying to netboot atm with nothing else running it it |
| 09:34.12 | Interphase | heyo, anyone here use unrar? |
| 09:34.19 | dutchfish | hugo, have you configured your kvm network properly? |
| 09:34.23 | Interphase | we all need to decompress files sometimes |
| 09:34.41 | dutchfish | hugo, brctl show |
| 09:34.48 | hugo | dutchfish: i guess so, bridge |
| 09:34.57 | dutchfish | hugo, ok |
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| 09:36.03 | pepperbob | i don't like rar too much - but whats the deal with it? |
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| 09:37.19 | cliffbreaker | Interphase: i do |
| 09:37.42 | Interphase | cliffbreaker, how come so many files fail, but some are ok? |
| 09:37.54 | Interphase | and when I use winrar, they are all fine |
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| 09:38.13 | cliffbreaker | Interphase: well I didn't see any failures so far |
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| 09:38.24 | dutchfish | Interphase, you can use rar form non-free |
| 09:38.31 | dutchfish | s/form/from |
| 09:38.42 | Interphase | what? |
| 09:39.07 | dutchfish | Interphase, the non-free repository |
| 09:39.49 | Interphase | link? |
| 09:40.09 | project2501a | hey guys i installed grub2 and set it to 1024x768 for boot. but apparently that vga mode does not preserve once the kernel has been loaded. what am i doing wrong? any clues, please? i've googled, but i don't have any good strings to search fo. |
| 09:40.38 | project2501a | Interphase: apt-get install unrar |
| 09:40.49 | project2501a | provided you got the non-free repos in your sources |
| 09:41.02 | Interphase | I don't have the repository |
| 09:41.17 | dutchfish | Interphase, add non-free in the /etc/apt/source.lst and aptitude install rar |
| 09:41.24 | grand_grunt | Then add it, or do not. |
| 09:41.27 | Interphase | got any copypasta from sources.list? |
| 09:41.39 | dutchfish | !non-free |
| 09:41.39 | dpkg | it has been said that non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 09:42.13 | marcel` | what does 'contrib' mean in sources.list? |
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| 09:43.57 | liable | marcel`: depends on a non-free package |
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| 09:44.34 | c459s | I am on Debian with apache2 and get this line in my transfer logs? '::1 - - [12/Jul/2009:07:28:04 +0000] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 -'. Does anyone know what this is? |
| 09:44.40 | Interphase | gah, where can I find exactly what to type into sources.list to get the non-free repository? |
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| 09:44.49 | marcel` | liable: sorry i dont understasnd what you mean. could you try to explain it in another way? |
| 09:45.02 | Interphase | project2501a, what do you have? |
| 09:45.07 | Interphase | in sources.list |
| 09:45.10 | Interphase | that makes that work |
| 09:45.40 | dani^shower | hi why is kinputwizard tellin me "creating input device failed" when i find a bluetooth mouse and click on setup |
| 09:45.59 | liable | marcel`: it means that the package, has a depends (it needs another package to work) on one which is in the non-free section of the repository |
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| 09:47.00 | marcel` | liable: ok i understand thanks but does that mean than contrib get the depends for some non-free packages? |
| 09:47.05 | liable | marcel`: ie, the contrib package is "free" but it needs a non-free package to work |
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| 09:48.10 | marcel` | liable: thanks i understand now |
| 09:48.18 | teknishun | Interphase: if the file you are trying uncompress has multi-nested directories, unrar doesn't handle that well |
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| 09:48.34 | Interphase | ahhh teknishun, that could be the problem |
| 09:48.49 | teknishun | however, if you decompress it in windows it works just fine (Weird, but true) |
| 09:49.01 | Interphase | that is what I have found |
| 09:50.25 | Interphase | thanks for the help |
| 09:50.29 | simonrvn | c459s: OPTIONS is a webdav "command"/request |
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| 09:51.42 | teknishun | Interphase: if you want to add 'non-free' or 'contrib' to your sources.conf, just add contrib & non-free - viz - "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free" |
| 09:52.07 | c459s | simonrvn: Can you elaborate what a webdav request is please? |
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| 09:52.35 | ilman | Hello |
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| 09:53.16 | ilman | what is Debian ? |
| 09:53.30 | teknishun | Google it |
| 09:53.37 | teknishun | or www.debian.org |
| 09:53.50 | simonrvn | c459s: there's RFCs for this, go read them. it's HTTP 1.1 extensions... possibly a bot trying to see if it's exploitable, or some M$hit user's IE going bonkers |
| 09:53.55 | simonrvn | !debian |
| 09:53.55 | dpkg | from memory, debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 09:54.11 | ilman | oh yes |
| 09:54.13 | ilman | the OS |
| 09:54.20 | ilman | well is there a way |
| 09:54.28 | ilman | to use it and Windows XP both ? |
| 09:54.30 | c459s | simonrvn: Isnt it odd that the request comes from ::1? |
| 09:54.32 | ilman | at the same pc ? |
| 09:54.46 | marcel` | ilman: sure google at dualboot |
| 09:54.49 | teknishun | !dual boot |
| 09:54.49 | dpkg | hmm... dual boot is This describes a system that can boot to two different operating systems. Some OSs, such as Windows NT and OS/2, allow for dual booting when installed. Of course, you can also use other methods such as commercial programs that install a special boot partition that is capable of launching operating systems from other partitions. You can also boot to more than two operating systems on the same machine. see <dual boot guide> |
| 09:55.00 | ilman | okay |
| 09:55.06 | ilman | my pc is very old |
| 09:55.12 | simonrvn | c459s: don't /msg me without asking |
| 09:55.17 | ilman | it will work fast ? |
| 09:55.28 | ilman | will it work fast ? |
| 09:55.34 | grand_grunt | Depends on what you try to do with it |
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| 09:55.58 | teknishun | There's no software to make your PC run faster, however you can use softwares that consume little resources |
| 09:55.59 | ilman | music+web+msn |
| 09:56.03 | p0g0_ | ilman: probably faster than your windows experience. |
| 09:56.16 | ilman | music+web+msn+mirc |
| 09:56.19 | ilman | will work ? |
| 09:56.19 | c459s | simonrvn: okay, dont reply without asking me either then. |
| 09:56.23 | c459s | :D |
| 09:56.39 | grand_grunt | ilman: It will work. |
| 09:56.40 | teknishun | ilman: what do you use as of now? XP/win98SE? |
| 09:56.45 | ilman | XP |
| 09:56.51 | ilman | pentium 4 |
| 09:56.54 | ilman | 2.93 Ghz |
| 09:56.57 | grand_grunt | That's not old! |
| 09:56.58 | ilman | 512 mb RAM |
| 09:57.16 | ilman | i have this 4 years |
| 09:57.19 | grand_grunt | Debian will run very well on your PC :) |
| 09:57.21 | ilman | i have this pc 4 years |
| 09:57.23 | marcel` | ilman: it will run no problem |
| 09:57.25 | simonrvn | c459s: what? |
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| 09:58.00 | marcel` | ilman: you could always upgrade your ram a little bit. but i dont think its really neccery for debian (depends on how you install and use debain ofc) |
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| 09:58.03 | simonrvn | c459s: ok, so you won't get anything else out of me then *plonk* |
| 09:58.19 | teknishun | ilman: Google 'linux mint' & give it a shot. You'd like to try liveCD before you want to install it on your HDD. Also, using linux means you agree to learn as you go, there's definitelya learning curve |
| 09:58.25 | ilman | okay i will just install it |
| 09:58.26 | ilman | but |
| 09:58.37 | simonrvn | i out-smartassed you. pwned |
| 09:58.43 | marcel` | teknishun: why mint? |
| 09:58.45 | ilman | when will i get the choose screen ? |
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| 09:59.15 | marcel` | ilman: after the bios boot if thats what you mean |
| 09:59.26 | marcel` | ilman: best to install grub for o/s choosing |
| 09:59.27 | ilman | oh okay |
| 09:59.37 | ilman | grub for o/s choosing ? |
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| 09:59.40 | ilman | what is it? |
| 09:59.45 | teknishun | marcel`: because most codecs come as default install, and for someone who's very new to linux the whole idea of installing can be a little daunting |
| 09:59.47 | marcel` | !grub |
| 09:59.48 | dpkg | [grub] Grand Unified Bootloader. It's an extremely powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes, understands many filesystems (including <reiserfs> and <XFS> since 0.97), but see http://bugs.debian.org/grub . For an install guide, see http://linuxjournal.com/4622, or "aptitude install grub grub-doc". To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
| 09:59.56 | marcel` | ilman: read it :) |
| 10:00.10 | ilman | oh okay |
| 10:00.25 | ilman | it is written that i need to burn it first |
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| 10:00.36 | ilman | can i use DEAMON TOOLS? |
| 10:00.46 | marcel` | teknishun: ok thats a nice thought but, since youre in a debian channel issnt it better to help though installing debian? |
| 10:00.47 | teknishun | NO, it's an emulator |
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| 10:01.17 | teknishun | marcel`: Mint is debian based :) it's just for n00bs |
| 10:01.18 | marcel` | ilman: where would you want use deamon tools for? |
| 10:01.28 | ilman | to install the OS |
| 10:01.41 | marcel` | teknishun: ok im sorry i diddnt knew that.. just heard something about mint never really read about it |
| 10:02.07 | marcel` | ilman: no that wont work. most easy way is to download a .iso from the mint site and then brun it as a bootable disk |
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| 10:02.19 | ilman | OK |
| 10:02.31 | ilman | but there are many downloads options what sould i download? |
| 10:02.33 | ilman | should* |
| 10:02.46 | marcel` | ilman: what processor do you have? |
| 10:02.54 | ilman | IDK |
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| 10:03.00 | ilman | pentium 4 |
| 10:03.00 | john_doe | Is it possible to stop the boot process? Gdm makes my machine freeze so I can't use the system at all... |
| 10:03.08 | ilman | pentium 4 2.93 Ghz |
| 10:03.17 | teknishun | ilman: I suggest you read up on basic things like - installation, booting, partitioning etc. before you install linux. It won't be pretty when things are broken you don;t know how to fix them |
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| 10:03.21 | marcel` | i think its 1368 could someone confirm that? |
| 10:03.31 | ilman | yea |
| 10:03.32 | liable | john_doe: boot it in single mode (grub option) |
| 10:03.35 | ilman | i downloaded that |
| 10:03.36 | ilman | :P |
| 10:03.46 | marcel` | s/1368/i368/ |
| 10:03.46 | ilman | well i know how to do this things |
| 10:03.55 | ilman | i have problems with me ENGLISH |
| 10:04.01 | teknishun | i386** |
| 10:04.02 | marcel` | ilman: ok nps :) |
| 10:04.07 | marcel` | teknishun: rofl |
| 10:04.09 | marcel` | teknishun: y ty |
| 10:04.16 | ilman | that funny cause i came here from |
| 10:04.17 | marcel` | teknishun: still abit sleepy ;x |
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| 10:04.21 | ilman | hacking.org.il channel |
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| 10:04.31 | ilman | i should know something... |
| 10:04.33 | ilman | :D |
| 10:04.44 | ilman | well 10x i am burning it |
| 10:04.52 | teknishun | ahem ... joining a channel makes you a hacker? :þ |
| 10:04.57 | rudi_s | Hi. Is there a way to change the allow open files (ulimit -n) of a running program? |
| 10:05.02 | john_doe | Liable: I use yaboot. It's ppc but I thought the question was general. |
| 10:05.03 | marcel` | what .il? does anyone know? |
| 10:05.04 | ilman | lol |
| 10:05.06 | ilman | no |
| 10:05.08 | rudi_s | /allow/allowed |
| 10:05.08 | teknishun | israel |
| 10:05.09 | ilman | my knowlege |
| 10:05.13 | ilman | yup |
| 10:05.18 | marcel` | teknishun: ty your a wise men haha |
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| 10:05.22 | pp-popo | I got a new debian lenny installed and my screen still look pretty bad. I got my nvidia driveres installed, but i still can not increase my refresh rate to 60HZ, its at 51. how can i do this? |
| 10:05.25 | marcel` | teknishun: or woman.. |
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| 10:05.50 | ilman | lol |
| 10:05.52 | liable | john_doe: ah, I dunno how to do it for that, should be possible somehow though, surely. google yaboot single mode |
| 10:05.55 | teknishun | man, definitely! Rule #1 - there are no women on the Internet (much less on Freenode)! |
| 10:06.08 | ilman | XD |
| 10:06.15 | john_doe | Liable: thanks. |
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| 10:06.29 | ilman | hmm |
| 10:06.36 | ilman | which browsers will work |
| 10:06.37 | marcel` | teknishun: nice there is a mint fluxbox edition im gonna try it on a old box here |
| 10:06.41 | ilman | in linux ? |
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| 10:06.57 | p0g0_ | john_doe: you could boot with a live CD and then fix whatever is broken. |
| 10:06.59 | ilman | Google Chrome |
| 10:07.07 | ilman | ? |
| 10:07.12 | teknishun | Firefox (branded as Iceweasel in Debian), Opera, Dillo, Konqueror |
| 10:07.21 | ilman | Google Chrome ? |
| 10:07.28 | ilman | its important.. |
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| 10:07.44 | teknishun | You can run Chrome under Wine, not sure if it'll work just the same as windows |
| 10:07.47 | pp-popo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.06 | ness | I think chrome should run on linux as well⦠|
| 10:08.07 | ilman | isnt there any Google Chrome Version for Linux ? |
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| 10:08.18 | CcSsNET | chrome dont run under wine |
| 10:08.22 | CcSsNET | or at least it wont install |
| 10:08.25 | ilman | isnt there any Google Chrome Version for Linux ? |
| 10:08.25 | teknishun | no idea, never bothered to check |
| 10:08.33 | ilman | well then |
| 10:08.42 | ilman | do u have any other good! browsers? |
| 10:08.45 | CcSsNET | if u manually copy over an installed directory and the registry entries it may work |
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| 10:08.54 | teknishun | Firefox/Opera/Epiphany |
| 10:09.00 | ilman | OKay |
| 10:09.09 | ilman | but wont i need more space for files? |
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| 10:09.26 | teknishun | how much space do you have? |
| 10:09.29 | ilman | 5.24 gb |
| 10:09.30 | CcSsNET | firefox/iceweasel/minefield are some of the names u will see firefox as |
| 10:09.33 | ilman | i downloading alot.. |
| 10:09.42 | ilman | I am* |
| 10:10.09 | ilman | ? |
| 10:10.09 | macrobat_ | there is a google chrome .deb, but it some of the deps that wine needs |
| 10:10.13 | teknishun | You'll need ~5-6 gigs for everything to run - you can use external HDD as your storage point |
| 10:10.29 | ilman | oh then i will delete some movies |
| 10:10.42 | ilman | will i need another Hard drive ? |
| 10:10.44 | macrobat_ | wine deps are a bit broken for amd64 ATM |
| 10:10.45 | ilman | i have only c:\ |
| 10:10.55 | teknishun | make sure to format external HDD with FAT32 if you want to access it from Windows |
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| 10:11.07 | ilman | i use NTFS.. |
| 10:11.30 | ilman | anyway |
| 10:11.37 | ilman | will i need another Hard drive ? i have only c:\ |
| 10:12.02 | teknishun | if you can shrink the existing partition and create new partition - then, NO |
| 10:12.10 | ilman | partition? |
| 10:12.12 | teknishun | if you can't - then, YES |
| 10:12.23 | ilman | to cut the C:\ into C:\ and D:\ ? |
| 10:12.41 | teknishun | damn! Just read up those docs you said you downloaded. someone will kick me for excessive typing |
| 10:13.01 | ilman | lol |
| 10:13.08 | ilman | i need Hebrew Talker!! |
| 10:13.11 | ilman | :\ |
| 10:13.21 | ilman | its easier to hack.. |
| 10:13.26 | ilman | XD |
| 10:13.34 | teknishun | no, you shrink C:\ as in reduce its size - for example from 60 gigs to 10 gigs etc |
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| 10:13.50 | ilman | then i need much more space? |
| 10:14.03 | ilman | sorry for this grammer |
| 10:14.04 | ilman | :\ |
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| 10:14.12 | ilman | grammar* |
| 10:14.22 | teknishun | Yes, you need FREE space to be able to shrink a partition |
| 10:14.39 | ilman | how much ? |
| 10:14.43 | dman | lets say I set up an SSL proxy tunnel through putty to my ssh webserver, later i use this proxy in firefox and other apps, 127.0.0.1 port 7777, all data that goes from my system to the proxy will be encrypted right? |
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| 10:15.12 | ilman | yes |
| 10:15.17 | teknishun | for typical linux install, you need ~10 gigs to be on the safer side |
| 10:15.23 | ilman | got it |
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| 10:15.32 | ilman | how can i partition? |
| 10:15.53 | ilman | ñòî÷ òí äàðâìéú !! |
| 10:16.06 | macrobat_ | ilman: there are live-cds with gparted on, use that |
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| 10:16.12 | valdyn | dman: youre confused or confusing us |
| 10:16.28 | dman | lol y |
| 10:16.28 | valdyn | dman: you are setting up an SSH tunnel thru putty to your ssl webserver, maybe |
| 10:16.42 | valdyn | dman: that makes everything being encrypted twice |
| 10:16.54 | macrobat_ | i use http://www.sysresccd.org/ |
| 10:16.56 | dman | i'm just connecting to my webserver through ssh |
| 10:17.02 | dman | and i set in putty i like to have a proxy |
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| 10:17.14 | macrobat_ | back up first, ilman |
| 10:17.35 | ilman | http://www.soft32.com/download_151.html |
| 10:17.40 | ilman | thats good ? |
| 10:18.02 | foo-nix | I have a sound card and a webcam with mic. These are configured as two soundcards (i.e. two modules are inserted/loaded). alsasound |
| 10:18.06 | foo-nix | sees them as two cards. |
| 10:18.09 | simonrvn | ilman: use the installer's partitioner... |
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| 10:18.21 | foo-nix | Where can I set whoch one to use by default, e.g. I have no /etc/asound.conf |
| 10:18.35 | foo-nix | Given that the alsa wiki reffers to this file. |
| 10:18.40 | teknishun | you can use Gparted but I suggest using Parition Magic (Norton) or acronis |
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| 10:18.57 | dutchfish | !gparted |
| 10:18.57 | dpkg | somebody said gparted was the <GNOME> partition editor, which uses libparted (ask me about <parted>) and other optional filesystem tools. Install the 'ntfsprogs' package to enable <NTFS> support and 'dosfstools' for FAT16/32 support. Consider a <debian-live> image and installing 'gparted' (after boot) as an alternative to the GParted Live CD. http://gparted.sf.net/faq.php #gparted on irc.gnome.org. |
| 10:19.36 | CcSsNET | !gtkhash |
| 10:19.51 | valdyn | dman: so its totally irrelevant that you are using putty to configure your webserver? |
| 10:19.59 | dutchfish | on the other hand the debian-installer is capable of resizing partiotions, but first: backup, backup backup |
| 10:20.02 | cahoot | foo-nix: personally I prefer to give the module for the card I want as defualt index 0 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (or create a local file |
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| 10:20.43 | foo-nix | cahoot, fine too, the wiki refered to something else which I why I was trying that. |
| 10:21.46 | cahoot | foo-nix: see the last part of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base |
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| 10:22.02 | valdyn | dman: if I understand you right, then firefox cannot use an ssh tunnel as if it were a proxy |
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| 10:22.34 | foo-nix | cahoot, I see |
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| 10:23.23 | cahoot | foo-nix: when done alsa force-reload should suffice |
| 10:23.50 | hark | valdyn: probably using ssh socks proxy |
| 10:24.02 | dutchfish | valdyn, 1 not: there are java plugins that do just that (not remomended by me) |
| 10:24.48 | ilman | irc.debian.org |
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| 10:28.54 | Arafangion | Why not just install a proxy? |
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| 10:29.38 | Arafangion | If youw ant a non-standard proxy configuration, install a *standard* proxy server that can then speak the non-standard protocol. |
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| 10:30.24 | Posterdati | I got problem with nvidia driver on squeeze (kde4) |
| 10:30.33 | Posterdati | trasparency is broken |
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| 10:34.27 | foo-nix | cahoot, it worked to add the options: index=0. But I neede to do the alsa force-reload, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart did not work |
| 10:34.50 | cahoot | foo-nix: alsa-utils only sets levels and such |
| 10:34.56 | foo-nix | ah |
| 10:34.56 | foo-nix | kk |
| 10:34.58 | foo-nix | thanx |
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| 10:44.56 | troubled | whew, debian's future is secure now that they are making a toy story 3. I was a little worried there ;) |
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| 10:46.37 | nummer9 | I just updated to testing. I played aroung a bit with APT, and now I get following Error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/127990/ |
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| 10:48.05 | nummer9 | I wanted to update gnome-core. I removed some packages therefore. Now I can't install gnome-core |
| 10:48.29 | dutchfish | hi, if any, where can i find a repo for the packages described in rtai-doc, or need i compile from the tarball's or git? |
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| 10:50.06 | dutchfish | specially RTAI 3.7.1 i if possible |
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| 10:51.37 | Rexxars | this is more of a linux question I guess, but my "ata3" device is getting a lot of errors, how do I find out more details on what this device actually is? |
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| 10:52.23 | dutchfish | Rexxars, lspci dmidecode, maybe your logs? |
| 10:53.48 | Rexxars | dutchfish: hrm, thanks, none of them mention ata3 though... apart from the syslog which is really just spammed with the error messages |
| 10:54.10 | dutchfish | Rexxars, you have already checked dmesg? |
| 10:54.33 | Rexxars | yep |
| 10:54.40 | nummer9 | Hm, it seems like I don't need gnome-core. |
| 10:54.53 | Rexxars | guess I'll just rip out some ata controllers one by one, heh |
| 10:55.53 | nummer9 | There is a system called S.M.A.R.T. to get informations about hard disks. |
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| 10:57.16 | Rexxars | yes, I believe ata3 is a controller and not a disk though |
| 10:57.45 | nummer9 | I don't know anything about S.M.A.R.T. :D |
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| 10:58.35 | dutchfish | Rexxars, i might be related to kernel (there was a fix but is reverted) looks alot like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/linux/+bug/256637 |
| 10:59.02 | dutchfish | s/i/it |
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| 10:59.24 | dutchfish | Rexxars, what kernel you have? |
| 10:59.27 | Rexxars | nah, thats not it.. |
| 11:00.03 | Rexxars | seems to be a silicon image 3114 controller that was the culprit, I've got another one here that I'm going to try |
| 11:00.13 | dutchfish | ok |
| 11:00.21 | Rexxars | thanks for helping though :) |
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| 11:06.46 | PsiKlops | Hi, just installed a lenny and see that the " # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " doesn't have anything to do with my graphic-card anymore and the new xorg.conf is totally empty. |
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| 11:07.18 | PsiKlops | how can i fix this? |
| 11:08.52 | PsiKlops | or must i do this all manually? |
| 11:08.54 | PsiKlops | now |
| 11:08.56 | hark | it's all autodetected now, you don't need to fix it |
| 11:08.58 | PsiKlops | lol |
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| 11:09.41 | PsiKlops | my keyboard-layout is now, its a german keyboard, but has been detected as other z=y y=z |
| 11:09.44 | PsiKlops | and so on |
| 11:09.55 | hark | !drxx |
| 11:09.55 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root; this will overwrite your xorg.conf but your old file will be backed up. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier) ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with <xrandr>. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however, using the output of X -configure as a template. |
| 11:11.20 | PsiKlops | thanx ;) |
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| 11:12.44 | raboof_ | how does dhclient decide how to create routes? |
| 11:13.21 | RichiH | it does not |
| 11:13.39 | RichiH | but you can tell it to do so via DHCP |
| 11:13.43 | dustybin | PsiKlops: join the club |
| 11:14.15 | raboof | RichiH: how do you mean? dhclient gets its settings over dhcp, and then adds the routes, right? |
| 11:14.22 | RichiH | correct |
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| 11:14.27 | troubled | stops to wave at RichiH |
| 11:14.28 | PsiKlops | dustybin: lol, whatchya mean? |
| 11:14.55 | dustybin | i also have a xorg.conf what is zero bytes |
| 11:15.03 | dustybin | how is one meant to edit anything? |
| 11:15.14 | dustybin | what happens if xorg has autodetected wrong settings |
| 11:15.26 | raboof | RichiH: is there a way to tweak how dhclient adds those routes? i'm trying to set up http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html , but that is geared towards static routes rather than routes added by by dhclient |
| 11:15.31 | cahoot | edit xorg.conf to correctness |
| 11:15.37 | PsiKlops | dustybin: i just did -> # dpkg-reconfigure ... and its still empty |
| 11:15.42 | dustybin | cahoot: there is nothing to edit, its empty |
| 11:15.46 | CcSsNET | is there a command i can use to ask dpkg who maintains a package |
| 11:15.46 | cahoot | add |
| 11:16.11 | dustybin | does xorg now use HAL? |
| 11:16.38 | CcSsNET | optionally at best ^ |
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| 11:17.27 | cahoot | dustybin: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
| 11:17.56 | dustybin | do you think this will be for the best? |
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| 11:18.18 | raboof | ha, /sbin/dhclient-script looks like where it's at :) |
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| 11:19.16 | zxd | Hi |
| 11:19.20 | zxd | is there something ppp-dhcp for debian? |
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| 11:19.38 | nsadmin | dustybin: probably that discussion would be more effective if the maint were involved... it's probably brandon robinson |
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| 11:21.17 | simonrvn | he doesn't do x stuff anymore |
| 11:21.31 | nsadmin | oh? what's he doing now? |
| 11:21.55 | cahoot | http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/ |
| 11:22.02 | cahoot | they're listed there |
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| 11:22.13 | simonrvn | i don't remember right now... i haven't slept yet |
| 11:22.35 | zxd | Hi I am looking for a DHCP plugin for ppp |
| 11:22.38 | nsadmin | no worries... I can look |
| 11:23.01 | simonrvn | zxd: erm, why? why not just use dhcp? |
| 11:23.32 | nsadmin | how do you tell pppd to use dhcp? |
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| 11:24.54 | simonrvn | very gently, dhcp is sensitive and very emotional |
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| 11:25.48 | zxd | because ! |
| 11:25.53 | zxd | ta ta ta ta ! it's cool |
| 11:26.18 | zxd | j/k , because I want the client to pull IPs and other DHCP inform like domain name and routing addresses from DHCp |
| 11:26.27 | zxd | and PPP dosen't have an option for that |
| 11:26.41 | simonrvn | um, yes it does |
| 11:26.49 | zxd | So after PPP negotiation and the interface goes up , the plugin should run a DHCP request on the interface |
| 11:26.53 | zxd | no it dosen't |
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| 11:27.11 | zxd | simonrvn, are you sure? |
| 11:27.21 | simonrvn | man pppd |
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| 11:27.27 | zxd | maybe you are confusing with just ip allocation |
| 11:27.29 | zxd | and dns server |
| 11:27.38 | simonrvn | no |
| 11:28.10 | simonrvn | though that is part of what it can do.. |
| 11:28.15 | zxd | there is no option for that in the RFC IPCP for requesting the domain name |
| 11:28.27 | nsadmin | are you saying you already understand pppd completely as documented in the man page |
| 11:28.37 | zxd | or getting static routing information |
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| 11:28.47 | zxd | ofcourse |
| 11:29.01 | zxd | nsadmin, |
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| 11:30.42 | nsadmin | does the rfc say anything about how the IP gets into the protocol? |
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| 11:34.11 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 11:35.15 | raboof | hmm, why would 'ip route add default dev eth1 via 94.229.57.1 table eth1table' return 'RTNETLINK answers: No such process' instead of adding the default route? |
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| 11:40.23 | antixogh | so i want gnome or Xorg to "cut and paste" when i "drag and drop" when moving files between drives rather than "copy and paste" any ideas? |
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| 11:43.17 | cahoot | you mean mv instaed of cp? |
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| 11:43.42 | antixogh | correct |
| 11:44.07 | antixogh | i haven't found any thing promising on google.. yet |
| 11:44.17 | cahoot | antixogh: seems to do so with right mouse btn + drag |
| 11:44.24 | cahoot | err left |
| 11:45.35 | antixogh | orly |
| 11:45.36 | cahoot | antixogh: sorry - missed the part about different drives |
| 11:45.40 | antixogh | ok let me try |
| 11:45.48 | antixogh | oh |
| 11:48.04 | antixogh | if i click and drag with the wheel it gives me the choice to move |
| 11:48.14 | antixogh | i guess that will work for now |
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| 11:49.36 | antixogh | i download stuff to the desktop and drag it to the proper folder, and i was starting to mirror files all other the place |
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| 11:53.32 | raboof | what is the 'ip route' equivalent of 'route add default gw 94.229.57.1'? |
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| 11:53.52 | raboof | i tried 'ip route add default via 94.229.57.1', but that returns 'RTNETLINK answers: File exists' |
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| 11:57.33 | timebomb | heya i deinstalled exim and then installed postfix and i get this error when i try to send mails http://pastie.org/543028 |
| 11:57.42 | timebomb | can anybody help? |
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| 12:00.06 | abrotman | how did you istall postfix? how are you trying to send email? |
| 12:00.12 | nsadmin | timebomb do you know what your configuration should be? is there a smarthost that handles mail for the host part of your email addr? |
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| 12:02.22 | timebomb | abrotman, as internet site |
| 12:02.41 | abrotman | why not `aptitude install postfix` ? |
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| 12:04.15 | timebomb | nsadmin, hmm. im not sure really i tried internet server and internet server with smarthost |
| 12:04.27 | timebomb | abrotman, well aptitude install asks you for those options no |
| 12:04.28 | timebomb | ? |
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| 12:09.38 | abrotman | timebomb: yes, it should |
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| 12:10.44 | Fersure | is there any way to change the cursor shape in gnome terminal in lenny? (gnome terminal 2.22.3) |
| 12:11.20 | timebomb | abrotman, wellyeah thats what i use |
| 12:12.48 | dutchfish | Fersure, not that it will help much but: http://www.chrishowie.com/2008/03/28/gnome-terminal-cursor/ |
| 12:13.13 | dutchfish | Fersure, i left gnome a long time ago |
| 12:14.10 | Fersure | dutchfish: Ah. I just want the cursor to be an 'I-Beam'. It's possible in the newer versions but not in the current version that lenny has I guess. |
| 12:14.29 | dutchfish | Fersure, not that i am aware off |
| 12:14.29 | Fersure | I love Gnome. It's the only thing I really feel comfortable with using. |
| 12:15.12 | Fersure | dutchfish: Alright, thanks anyway. :) |
| 12:15.22 | dutchfish | Fersure, i used gnome for over 6 years, i changed about 2 years ago, but that not relevant |
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| 12:15.46 | dutchfish | Fersure, i saves me alot of time |
| 12:15.53 | Fersure | dutchfish: Ah. What did you switch to if I may ask? |
| 12:16.24 | dutchfish | Fersure, i use mainly KDE when i am not on a console |
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| 12:16.49 | Fersure | oh okay. I must admit that KDE4 does look quite nice. |
| 12:17.35 | dutchfish | Fersure, i am compfortable with KDE3 but KDE4 has some nice gadgets i admit, however KDE3 doe sits job fine |
| 12:18.22 | dutchfish | Fersure, my choice was based on the work i do, many packages in KDE are not in gnome |
| 12:18.29 | abrotman | Fersure: there's a mouse applet |
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| 12:18.46 | Fersure | dutchfish: ah okay. |
| 12:19.00 | Fersure | abrotman: an applet for the cursor in gnome terminal? o.o |
| 12:19.13 | abrotman | Fersure: oh .. i thought you meant the mouse cursor .. sorry |
| 12:19.14 | dustybin | anybody recommend some paste software for my server, ie i would like to be able to do paste.mybox.net |
| 12:19.26 | Fersure | abrotman: ah np lol |
| 12:19.37 | dutchfish | !coffee abrotman |
| 12:19.37 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of organic International Roast Caterers Blend for abrotman, courtesy of dutchfish |
| 12:19.59 | Fersure | mmmmm coffee coffee coffee! hehe |
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| 12:20.55 | dustybin | what software did debian use for: http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 12:21.12 | dutchfish | Fersure, if you are detemined you can hack around in its source the revert it back to the old gnome terminal cursor |
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| 12:21.46 | Azrael_- | if i want to change into a directory with "cd" and use "tab" to complete the name i not only get directories but also all matching files. how can i change this to get only directories here? |
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| 12:23.14 | amikrop | Hello. How can I set RapidSVN not to ask me my passphrase for my SSH key each time I want to SVN update? |
| 12:24.14 | JPT | Oo |
| 12:24.19 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, you can script it in ~/.bashrc |
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| 12:24.59 | asg | amikrop: use ssh-agent |
| 12:25.06 | Azrael_- | dutchfish: i know it is possible but every time i searched i didn't find out how to do it |
| 12:25.23 | raboof | hm. i found the line in /sbin/dhclient-script that adds the default gw |
| 12:25.34 | amikrop | asg: $ ssh-agent |
| 12:25.34 | amikrop | SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-olutaR4252/agent.4252; export SSH_AUTH_SOCK; |
| 12:25.34 | amikrop | SSH_AGENT_PID=4253; export SSH_AGENT_PID; |
| 12:25.34 | amikrop | echo Agent pid 4253; |
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| 12:25.38 | raboof | i don't see a call there that adds the '-net' route though |
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| 12:25.49 | raboof | might that one be added by ifconfig or something? |
| 12:25.55 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, at the end of .bashrc there should be the bashcompletion, there you have to hack it |
| 12:26.31 | amikrop | asg: http://paste.debian.net/41672/ |
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| 12:26.35 | asg | amikrop: you generally start it from your initial X session (see the manpage) or shell. Then use ssh-add to add your key. |
| 12:26.49 | amikrop | asg: Here's the output. How do I use it, though? |
| 12:27.24 | asg | amikrop: by reading the manpage to start the agent correctly and then using ssh-add to initially load your key(s) |
| 12:27.37 | Azrael_- | dutchfish: could you be a little bit more specific what to change regarding the blashcompletion? |
| 12:27.41 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, it points to /etc/bashcompletion the actual script, make your own (use the default as a start) and direct .bashrc to it |
| 12:28.12 | Azrael_- | i fear i don't understand the mechanism of bashcompletion enough to modify it to my needs on my own |
| 12:28.36 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, this might be handy: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 12:28.56 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, i not gone teach you bash ;) |
| 12:29.04 | Azrael_- | thx |
| 12:29.09 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, yw |
| 12:29.17 | Azrael_- | ofc, i know, i just hoped having to change only one line or sth like this |
| 12:29.50 | Azrael_- | in several other distributions it works just fine... |
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| 12:30.14 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, for you left to code, is a selective phrase in bashcompletion that rule out anything but directories, if thats clever thats another q |
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| 12:30.40 | amikrop | asg: I saw the manpage. So, I should just run ssh-agent once, and then ssh-add once? Or should I put ssh-agent to my .bashrc? |
| 12:30.46 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, you might just copy that bashcompletion from another distro |
| 12:30.49 | Azrael_- | finding only dirs in one folder is easy... (using find) |
| 12:31.12 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, or it least look at it how its done |
| 12:31.42 | Azrael_- | don't think suse and debian come along quite good. if i understood the mechanism it would be easy to copy and i wouldn't ask :) |
| 12:31.47 | Azrael_- | but ok, i'll keep searching |
| 12:31.58 | raboof | hrm, yeah, looks like ifconfig is adding that route |
| 12:32.07 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, the bashcompletion is quiet universal, you might get away with it ;) |
| 12:32.31 | amikrop | asg: any help on that, please? |
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| 12:36.03 | mlankhorst | !mmap |
| 12:36.03 | dpkg | Getting "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get or aptitude? Put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: APT::Cache-Limit "12582912"; If that file doesn't exist, create it, or put the line in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ If you still get the same error, increase the value. Alternatively, delete entries within /etc/apt/sources.list that you don't actually need. |
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| 12:37.47 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Programmable-Completion |
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| 12:39.31 | dutchfish | Azrael_-, specially complete -o dirnames option |
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| 13:05.06 | g00se | Out of interest, when setting up X for multiple monitors, are multiple graphics cards necessary? |
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| 13:05.54 | mgdn | some cards have two dvi outs |
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| 13:06.44 | abrotman | or two vga, or one vga/one dvi |
| 13:06.57 | mgdn | and one hdmi :) |
| 13:07.49 | g00se | Yes, i'd forgotten that |
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| 13:08.43 | mgdn | aaaand http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/94/images/Image_06.jpg |
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| 13:08.52 | mgdn | four dv |
| 13:08.53 | mgdn | i |
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| 13:10.54 | g00se | Yes - quite a beast |
| 13:11.24 | timebomb | abrotman, nsadmin, i removed postfix again and installed exim back and it works. im thinking that its more some permission issues |
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| 13:12.55 | quentusrex | Anyone know how to diagnose an issue with cert files? |
| 13:13.06 | quentusrex | I am able to use them just fine with openvpn |
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| 13:14.24 | poisonbit | quentusrex, openssl verify cert.pem ? |
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| 13:15.15 | quentusrex | poisonbit: and how do I specify a cacert? |
| 13:16.08 | poisonbit | quentusrex, man verify |
| 13:16.21 | poisonbit | -CApath -CAfile, etc |
| 13:16.27 | abrotman | quentusrex: unable to use them where? |
| 13:16.45 | quentusrex | alright, that passes just fine |
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| 13:17.05 | poisonbit | g00se, my laptop returns 1 line in: lspci | grep -i vga | wc -l |
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| 13:17.11 | poisonbit | and i've 2 monitors |
| 13:17.13 | voa | hi everyone, i installed latest lenny from livedvd to my thinkpad t42p with ati firegl. i installed X and kde and properitary fglrx module via synaptic and module-install etc. everything went fine and e.g. glxgears runs with about 2000fps. before last night i installed some additional graphical apps and some soundapps etc, nothing special. niw my framerate is at 50fps with glxgears. i checked glxinfo and it says direct rendering is on. i also typed aticonfig --i |
| 13:17.14 | voa | nitial and all that. |
| 13:17.31 | quentusrex | Alright, openldap has failed to use my certs that I've generated with TinyCA2, but any locally generated certs with openssl |
| 13:17.35 | quentusrex | main: TLS init def ctx failed: -1 |
| 13:17.35 | quentusrex | slapd destroy: freeing system resources. |
| 13:17.35 | quentusrex | slapd stopped. |
| 13:17.35 | quentusrex | connections_destroy: nothing to destroy. |
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| 13:17.53 | voa | i could run flightgear, blender, glxgears at the same time 2 days before. i can't imageine what happended, any tips? |
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| 13:18.00 | quentusrex | oops :) |
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| 13:21.16 | crackm | hi does someone know how to make hd4350 work with xserver on debain ? |
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| 13:21.44 | enouf | \amethyst: you about? i think i forgot to share (my) good news a few days back with you; I finally got the silly HP usb deskjet printer to print out PDFs (at first from xpdf, then also acroread) ... and it even does html from within IW ;-) I had told those that helped (namely jm_ , and craigevil - over on the OFTC.net #debian) as as bast i could what i did to make it work, but i'm not sure what actually did it |
| 13:21.52 | SingAlong | how do I find out the version of debian I'm using? |
| 13:21.59 | quentusrex | poisonbit: any ideas? |
| 13:22.02 | enouf | s/bast/best/ |
| 13:22.05 | abrotman | !version |
| 13:22.05 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
| 13:22.29 | crackm | @SingAlong>: uname -r |
| 13:22.40 | abrotman | inckie: please turn off whatever that is |
| 13:22.42 | enouf | \amethyst: i tried many things, reconfigured things, etc - i tried cups-pdf instead, made it default, deleted all others and that failed - then i googled the error "lpr: error - scheduler not responding!" and finally added back my printer through localhost:631/admin with info from dmesg output, AND with the older PPD file from etch, sitting where it should be, and which i selected to use. |
| 13:22.51 | SingAlong | crackm: that gives me the kernel version |
| 13:22.53 | poisonbit | quentusrex, increment verbosity in all the related logs/commands to debug the fail |
| 13:23.02 | enouf | \amethyst: However -- i just recalled, my googling turned up this, which i did execute, but forgot about; "export CUPS_SERVER=localhost" <--would you know how vital setting that $VAR is to making it work/fail? |
| 13:23.16 | quentusrex | poisonbit: I've tried to use the highest and it shows nothing... |
| 13:23.20 | crackm | and what are you looking for? |
| 13:23.20 | quentusrex | just that one line... |
| 13:23.28 | crackm | your debian version? |
| 13:23.44 | SingAlong | crackm: ya the etchy, etc stuff? |
| 13:24.14 | vizzy2 | cat /etc/debian_version should do it |
| 13:24.33 | SingAlong | vizzy2: thanks |
| 13:24.40 | SingAlong | i found it. its 5.0 |
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| 13:25.05 | enouf | \amethyst: ah .. i found; /etc/cups/client.conf:# hostname of the system or the value of the CUPS_SERVER environment (from rgrepping) |
| 13:25.09 | poisonbit | quentusrex, http://www.google.es/search?hl=en&q=%22TLS+init+def+ctx+failed%3A+-1%22 or specialiced channels (#openldap, #openssl, etc) |
| 13:25.12 | crackm | hi does someone know how to make hd4350 work with xserver on debain ? |
| 13:25.17 | quentusrex | crackm: poisonbit: I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, but not getting much help from other there. And they say it is basically exactly the same as the debian version. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/398366 |
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| 13:26.37 | crackm | quentusrex: it does have nothing to do with xserver |
| 13:26.38 | g00se | poisonbit: Right. I'm actually asking for my father who uses 3 monitors |
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| 13:28.16 | enouf | ugh ... i never saw any docs in all my trails pointing to that file, or that it should be used/set/configured, and .. if it is indeed necessary to set (even though it says it's a Sample file) it should be part of some dpkg-reconfigure *.postinst or something .. |
| 13:28.20 | crackm | btw quentusrex: thats debian irc ;) |
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| 13:28.50 | quentusrex | yeah, I know... But Ubuntu is based on debian, and most of the 'windows users' usually wind up over there. |
| 13:29.12 | quentusrex | so it's usually more helpful to come here for assistance. |
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| 13:29.53 | enouf | quentusrex: just a guess, is dirmgr running? installed? it's some sort of CRL thing |
| 13:29.56 | vizzy2 | quentusrex, but ubuntu is very very special :) |
| 13:30.00 | enouf | oh no |
| 13:30.07 | enouf | not the *buntu .. ugh |
| 13:30.11 | quentusrex | lol, no flame wars please.... |
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| 13:32.09 | dutchfish | !debianlove |
| 13:32.10 | dpkg | rumour has it, debianlove is the more i gain knowledge about linux, the more i like debian. Ask me about <whydebian> too. For more info look also at http://wiki.debian.org. |
| 13:33.31 | quentusrex | So, any more ideas about the issue? |
| 13:34.04 | quentusrex | that link I posted to launchpad has all the details |
| 13:34.35 | poisonbit | there was a url to paste online images instead of test ? |
| 13:34.41 | poisonbit | text |
| 13:34.45 | abrotman | quentusrex: please ask #ubuntu |
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| 13:35.04 | quentusrex | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/398366 |
| 13:35.10 | quentusrex | that's the bug report. |
| 13:35.12 | abrotman | quentusrex: please ask #ubuntu |
| 13:35.29 | quentusrex | abrotman: the issue is with openldap and possibly gnutls |
| 13:35.45 | azeem_ | quentusrex: this channel does not support Ubuntu |
| 13:35.46 | quentusrex | ubuntu has no relavent changes, so debian is using the same software... |
| 13:35.46 | azeem_ | sorry |
| 13:35.49 | abrotman | quentusrex: which your Ubuntu distro gave to you, go ask them |
| 13:36.19 | quentusrex | abrotman: I'm having the same issue with debian testing... |
| 13:36.33 | quentusrex | so like I was saying, it's the same issue... |
| 13:36.40 | azeem_ | quentusrex: what's the bug nuber? |
| 13:36.43 | azeem_ | number* |
| 13:37.04 | quentusrex | I have not filed it with debian yet... |
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| 13:37.14 | azeem_ | then I suggest doing so |
| 13:37.19 | quentusrex | I came here to get more info before I filed it with debian. |
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| 13:38.35 | dutchfish | quentusrex, not of much help can you paste your openldap version wich you are working on? |
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| 13:39.28 | quentusrex | yup, it's root@shuttle:/etc/ldap/ssl# slapd -V @(#) $OpenLDAP: slapd 2.4.15 (Mar 19 2009 10:07:59) $buildd@yellow:/build/buildd/openldap-2.4.15/debian/build/servers/slapd |
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| 13:40.32 | abrotman | quentusrex: please come back with debian running, otherwise ask #ubuntu (or ##linux or even #ldap) |
| 13:40.52 | poisonbit | g00se, one physical card, two outputs, many maaaaany years ago: http://poisonbit.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/pict4300.jpg?w=1024 |
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| 13:42.58 | dutchfish | quentusrex, fyi i am using slapd (lenny) 2.4.11-1 with none of your issues, i gues its related to your version only i gues 2.4.15 is sid? |
| 13:43.35 | g00se | poisonbit: Many years ago? Some of that kit looks very modern compared to the hardware in this household ;-) |
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| 13:43.51 | quentusrex | dutchfish: what I'm trying to say is that I am able to make it work with locally generated certs, but with certs generated with tinyca2 I can't get openldap to work, but I can't figure out what is broke |
| 13:44.02 | quentusrex | since the certs work with all other x509 applications |
| 13:44.13 | azeem_ | quentusrex: I think you've been told enough time to ask elsewhere now |
| 13:44.16 | dutchfish | quentusrex, i followed the same road and i can but again i us elenny |
| 13:44.24 | dutchfish | s/us/use |
| 13:44.29 | poisonbit | g00se, all the hard was second hand, repaired in a lab :-) |
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| 13:46.23 | dutchfish | quentusrex, my error there is only my version (yet) in lenny see: http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openldap.html |
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| 13:48.20 | dutchfish | quentusrex, looks like its a know bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libldap-2.4-2;dist=unstable |
| 13:48.37 | dutchfish | s/know/known |
| 13:48.47 | quentusrex | which one is it? |
| 13:49.03 | dutchfish | quentusrex, hehe, i handed you the last link, take a deep peak |
| 13:50.22 | quentusrex | dutchfish: I don't see any of those related to my issue... |
| 13:50.39 | dutchfish | quentusrex, i would strongly suggest to use 2.4.11-1 for production purposes, unstable is well .... unstable |
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| 13:50.54 | quentusrex | ok... |
| 13:51.27 | dutchfish | quentusrex, ou could save yourslef a lot of trouble by switching to lenny for this |
| 13:51.40 | dutchfish | quentusrex, good luck |
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| 13:52.42 | quentusrex | thanks. |
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| 13:52.55 | quentusrex | I'm concerned this could be a bigger problem... |
| 13:53.43 | dutchfish | quentusrex, well, i tend to think your version is simply not ready (yet) qoc |
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| 13:55.05 | Pnux | hey, are KDE sesions working properly on Squeeze? For some reason it doesnt save sesions, even though the feature is selected. |
| 13:55.06 | azeem | WTH, 2.4.25 isn't in testing even |
| 13:55.13 | azeem | 2.4.15* |
| 13:55.19 | dutchfish | azeem, yup |
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| 13:55.39 | azeem | 15:33 < quentusrex> abrotman: I'm having the same issue with debian testing... |
| 13:56.04 | dutchfish | azeem, impossible, at least not without backporting |
| 13:56.12 | quentusrex | oops, I meant unstable... |
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| 13:56.21 | quentusrex | I'm downloading testing to test it... |
| 13:56.23 | azeem | quentusrex: well, unstable isn't supported here either |
| 13:56.34 | komozo | hi, with the root user i can automatically mount a device by clicking on it, but with normal user i get the message "you are not privileged to mount this volume". help plz |
| 13:56.36 | azeem | so I think this case is closed now for good |
| 13:56.56 | dutchfish | !coffee azeem |
| 13:56.56 | dpkg | decants a fine brew of organic Tanzanian for azeem, courtesy of dutchfish |
| 13:57.17 | enouf | Pnux: that's kde4, correct? |
| 13:57.32 | Pnux | enouf: yeah, i forgot to mention that |
| 13:57.39 | enouf | Pnux: no idea - /msg dpkg kde4 (i suppose) .. or just --purge remove ;-) |
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| 13:58.02 | enouf | komozo: /msg dpkg automount |
| 13:58.08 | SuperMiguel | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.25 | enouf | komozo: er.. add your username to the 'plugdev' group, logout/login |
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| 13:59.01 | enouf | is unsure where/how policykit+pmount even still affect all that ... |
| 13:59.28 | komozo | enouf: the username is member of the plugdev group. when i plug usb device it works fine for all users |
| 13:59.38 | enouf | komozo: ok |
| 13:59.46 | Pnux | (10:57:29 AM) Pnux: kde4-sesions (10:57:31 AM) dpkg: I don't know, could you explain it? <= so we have to teach him so he can teach us? xD |
| 14:00.23 | enouf | komozo: what FStype is the partition? 'file -s /dev/nameX' -- and /msg dpkg walot (and post that info for us) |
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| 14:01.09 | komozo | enouf: fat32 |
| 14:01.16 | enouf | Pnux: once one has relevant info to add, sure, the bot can learn - and does all the time |
| 14:01.18 | Swapswap | As a matter of academic interest, can a RAID speed up disk I/O by a huge factor? |
| 14:01.32 | enouf | Swapswap: sure |
| 14:01.39 | Swapswap | Oh, crap, wait. |
| 14:01.48 | enouf | well, .. depends |
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| 14:02.04 | leoventura | komozo: try to put the "user" parameter on fstab |
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| 14:02.06 | enouf | komozo: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 14:02.14 | JordiGH | Forgot I was wearing my e2 hat. |
| 14:02.24 | enouf | komozo: uid=NNNN,gid=NNNN |
| 14:03.22 | enouf | komozo: also, my username is the owner of the /mnt/point .. now, i don't "click" anything to mount, that sounds like a DE issue perhaps as well |
| 14:03.39 | JordiGH | enouf: We had a RAID on a db server that had two RAIDed disks for backup. Right now we're just running on one disk, and pageloads really suck. Also, it's running Fedora. I want to install another HD in there, Debian, and RAID it, but not sure if it's worthwhile or if I should look elsewhere to improve pageloads. atop reports constant disk usage above 70% right now. |
| 14:03.50 | komozo | leoventura: i don't have the line in fstab. i don't want the device to be mounted on boot |
| 14:04.10 | enouf | JordiGH: how's iotop looking? vmstat? |
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| 14:04.26 | enouf | komozo: use, noauto |
| 14:04.32 | leoventura | komozo: so put "users,noauto" |
| 14:04.44 | leoventura | enouf: sorry |
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| 14:05.10 | enouf | leave off 'users' IMO ... |
| 14:05.42 | enouf | leoventura: no need for apology - you did nothing incorrect ;-) |
| 14:05.44 | telmich | so... just to resume from yesterday: the hd is totally broken |
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| 14:06.00 | enouf | leoventura: i usually type -- r-e-a-l-l-y- s-l-o-w- |
| 14:06.06 | telmich | that may have been the reason, why starting ldconfig failed |
| 14:06.21 | enouf | telmich: ahh |
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| 14:06.36 | enouf | telmich: too bad - yeah, you started getting mucho unrelated errors |
| 14:06.46 | JordiGH | enouf: Well, iotop doesn't report anything surprising: mysqld is really working hard on the HD. |
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| 14:07.29 | komozo | leoventura, enouf : yep, it's working. THANK YOU VERY MUCH |
| 14:07.40 | enouf | JordiGH: there's tons of fine tuning one can do for specific purposes, just slapping an mdadm setup into a situation won't necessarily be magical .,,, |
| 14:07.50 | enouf | komozo: cool |
| 14:08.20 | leoventura | enouf: ok...I am brazillian...and I need to think ten times before type...my english is terryble |
| 14:08.34 | azeem | !pt |
| 14:08.34 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 14:08.40 | leoventura | Â terrible |
| 14:08.45 | Faithful | is running noatime on fileservers a good idea? |
| 14:08.45 | enouf | azeem: ... no context! :-) |
| 14:08.58 | enouf | leoventura: that's fine - relax .. we be chilling ;-) |
| 14:09.08 | Faithful | and busy mailservers? |
| 14:09.48 | marcel` | hello, i just did a minimal debian install with xorg and fluxbox. but X makes the resolution 1600x1200. and the monitor only handles 1024*768. how can i change this? |
| 14:09.53 | enouf | leoventura: your english seems pretty fine to me - much better than some native english speakers |
| 14:10.15 | nkuttler | marcel`: xrandr -s 1024x768 |
| 14:10.34 | marcel` | nkuttler: is that permenant? |
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| 14:11.01 | nkuttler | marcel`: no, man xorg.conf |
| 14:11.04 | enouf | marcel`: do you have an xorg.conf? is that 1600x1200 in there? |
| 14:11.13 | marcel` | enouf: dont think so but ill check |
| 14:11.29 | marcel` | marcel@box:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 14:11.29 | marcel` | marcel@box:~$ |
| 14:11.41 | marcel` | its just auto-generated |
| 14:11.47 | enouf | yep .. |
| 14:11.51 | leoventura | enouf: thanks |
| 14:11.57 | marcel` | enouf: what do you sugest? |
| 14:12.03 | enouf | marcel`: which driver? |
| 14:12.09 | enouf | leoventura: ;-) |
| 14:12.09 | marcel` | enouf: intel onboard |
| 14:12.29 | azeem | marcel`: do you run gnome? |
| 14:12.32 | enouf | marcel`: man intel, man xorg.conf - see if there's an "ignoreEDID" |
| 14:12.44 | marcel` | azeem: nope fluxbox |
| 14:12.55 | enouf | marcel`: although - i'm not sure that will solve it - or, if it's best way |
| 14:13.02 | marcel` | enouf: ok ill read it thanks |
| 14:13.16 | azeem | marcel`: you could add the xrandr call in your X session, maybe |
| 14:13.17 | azeem | dunno |
| 14:13.29 | enouf | marcel`: at worst, you use X -configure to generate a simple xorg.conf which you then edit to taste |
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| 14:19.24 | SuperMiguel | http://pastebin.ca/1492748 |
| 14:19.52 | PsiKlops | hi, can some body please explain to me what is wrong or what is going on between the lines 139 - 150 and 350 - 353 in my $ dmesg output: http://paste.debian.net/41676/ |
| 14:20.10 | testi | Which tool can be used to display how fast a file grows (e.g. copy process) |
| 14:20.18 | asg | SuperMiguel: you may want to ask in #bash |
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| 14:21.06 | SuperMiguel | asg, thanks :) |
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| 14:22.19 | poisonbit | testi, watch -n 0 'ls -l /path/to/dst/file' |
| 14:22.29 | komozo | enouf, leoventura : i do the same for another partition (ntfs) "/dev/sda1 /media/ESOE ntfs users,noauto,rw 0 0". I have the error "the folder contents could not be displayed" |
| 14:22.52 | testi | poisonbit: i mean in bytes per second |
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| 14:23.26 | poisonbit | testi, you can scp it in local... but crypto I/O will be more slow |
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| 14:23.32 | PsiKlops | testi : rsync --progress maybe |
| 14:23.42 | poisonbit | yes, more fast |
| 14:23.56 | poisonbit | and see iotop |
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| 14:24.53 | enouf | komozo: /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
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| 14:25.37 | pierrep | got a breakage at boot about the path to swap partition |
| 14:25.43 | pierrep | using 2.6.30 |
| 14:25.49 | enouf | komozo: if you do want 'rw' you'll need fuse+ntfs-3g (which you can also ask dpkg about) |
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| 14:25.56 | RandomTask_ | Hi does anyone mind providing me some suggestions ... I have my pc on a surge protector ... however yesterday my pc was powered of when storm hit ... since then it frequently power cycles on its own ... and now that it is up an running it using only 2 cpu cores instead of 4 ... any idea what hardware could be pooched? |
| 14:26.03 | pierrep | it search a hdX instead of sdX |
| 14:26.17 | enouf | komozo: add the user to the fuse/fuser/fuser-mount group? read the docs and man pages |
| 14:26.17 | iluminator101 | I can't connect to yahoo on pidgin...i havent used it in a while....i tried somethings from the net but nothing is working any ideas? |
| 14:26.30 | komozo | enouf : i already installed them and it is working well with root user |
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| 14:26.39 | enouf | pierrep: alter your /etc/fstab |
| 14:26.42 | PsiKlops | iluminator101: same here |
| 14:26.46 | poisonbit | iluminator101, you have to backport 2.5.8 |
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| 14:27.01 | poisonbit | iluminator101, if you want lenny @amd64 backports, i've it |
| 14:27.04 | fxiny | testi: pv ? |
| 14:27.04 | enouf | komozo: the mount options are different for NTFS vs VFAT |
| 14:27.13 | fxiny | enouf: hey |
| 14:27.17 | enouf | fxiny: !! |
| 14:27.22 | iluminator101 | backports will poison my sources |
| 14:27.40 | fxiny | poison ? nahhh |
| 14:28.05 | poisonbit | iluminator101, is a probelm in pidgin + yahoo, and the only solution is to use a >= 2.5.8 |
| 14:28.21 | PsiKlops | version of pidgin |
| 14:28.33 | pierrep | enouf, already check it for the other partitions and its works but it dont remain any hd* |
| 14:28.33 | iluminator101 | hmm....is it in sid |
| 14:28.47 | pierrep | enouf, was thinking about another conf file |
| 14:29.08 | malchias | can anyone recommend a good book for setting up a secured, shared, hosting platform? |
| 14:29.27 | g00se | RandomTask_: dmesg? |
| 14:29.28 | poisonbit | i've OO 3.1, pidgin 2.5.8, svn 1.6 and kernel 2.6.30.1 in a lenny laptop, and the only poison is my nick :) |
| 14:30.00 | poisonbit | iluminator101, backport pidgin to lenny is very easy (is in the debian reference) and works fine from sid packages |
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| 14:30.47 | poisonbit | you'll have to install a lot of -dev dependencies, but you can purge them latter |
| 14:30.49 | pierrep | maybe some file in /boot to update ll check it |
| 14:31.15 | Qew | yeah, backporting your own is fairly easy and non-destructive. I have pidgin 2.5.8, htop 0.8.3 and the xfce4-weather-plugin 0.7.0 installed on a Lenny system. |
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| 14:32.54 | enouf | pierrep: check also /etc/* files -- grep -R them for perhaps possible suspend/s2ram/hibernate settings which use your swap for s2disk |
| 14:33.12 | enouf | pierrep: also - cat /proc/cmdline says? |
| 14:33.39 | enouf | pierrep: perhaps you have a kernel parameter 'resume=/dev/sdXX' for swap |
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| 14:34.03 | pierrep | enouf, root=/dev/sda1 vga=8 ro all_generic_ide quiet enable_mtrr_cleanup |
| 14:34.33 | enouf | pierrep: alright - heh, i loathe 'quiet' |
| 14:34.55 | enouf | pierrep: so .. wait, again, the issue is? |
| 14:35.14 | PsiKlops | is there anything funny lookin between lines: 139 - 150 and 350 - 353 : http://paste.debian.net/41676/ |
| 14:35.18 | enouf | pierrep: you want it to be hdX, when it's sdX? or vice-versa? |
| 14:35.42 | enouf | pierrep: all_generic_ide would play a role in that - is that really needed for you? |
| 14:35.51 | enouf | s/would/might |
| 14:36.06 | pierrep | enouf, it is sdX and it break cquse it search and hdX |
| 14:36.07 | enouf | and wtf is vga=8 ... heh |
| 14:36.29 | enouf | pierrep: well, that's your / FS line anyway |
| 14:36.59 | enouf | pierrep: is that a laptop? do you use any sort of hibernation/suspend ? |
| 14:37.32 | pierrep | enouf, its a netbook using for the moment the default sid kernel |
| 14:37.34 | enouf | pierrep: whose kernel is that? Debian? or you built it? which source? |
| 14:37.41 | enouf | ok |
| 14:37.51 | pierrep | enouf, 2.6.30 |
| 14:38.37 | enouf | pierrep: try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` (to update the the initrd) .. sounds like a/that libata issue though |
| 14:39.04 | pierrep | enouf, okay I try it |
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| 14:39.55 | enouf | pierrep: wait " enouf, it is sdX and it break cquse it search and hdX" what is "it"? during boot? dmesg output? show me "grep swap /etc/fstab" |
| 14:40.19 | pierrep | enouf, at boot |
| 14:40.37 | komozo | enouf : i change the line in fstab to ntfs-3g but see that /usr/bin/ntfs-3g is not setuid, is it a good way to do it ? |
| 14:40.39 | pierrep | /dev/sda7 none swap sw 0 0 |
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| 14:41.55 | enouf | pierrep: and your '/' line in fstab is /dev/sda1 and it boots ok? |
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| 14:42.08 | pierrep | enouf, yes |
| 14:42.14 | enouf | komozo: not sure offhand |
| 14:42.38 | john_doe | Gdm makes my machine freeze so I can't use the system at all. How can I avoid it starting. From single user mode, rc-update.d gives the error that it's a read-only fs. Weird since mount shows that all fs are rw... |
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| 14:43.06 | enouf | pierrep: then i suspect what i said earlier - old suspend issues - "rgrep -i hd /etc/initramfs-tools/" |
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| 14:43.35 | enouf | pierrep: if nothing retruns, do it to all of /etc/ |
| 14:43.46 | enouf | s/retruns/returns |
| 14:43.49 | pierrep | /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume:RESUME=/dev/hda7 |
| 14:43.54 | enouf | bingo! |
| 14:44.01 | pierrep | enouf, yes ;) |
| 14:44.05 | enouf | pierrep: alter that to /dev/sdaX |
| 14:44.18 | enouf | pierrep: then do the dpkg-reconfigure |
| 14:45.12 | pierrep | enouf, I do that |
| 14:45.18 | pierrep | enouf, thx anyway |
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| 14:46.02 | enouf | pierrep: if for some silly reason, it doesn't take, run update-initramfs (hit the man page, so all initrds are done - and if you need to boot into older ones, they won't freak) |
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| 14:48.18 | enouf | komozo: might also ask about that in ##linux and perhaps #debian on irc.debian.org .. or try again later here |
| 14:48.40 | enouf | goes afk for a bit |
| 14:49.07 | g00se | john_doe: This sort of thing sometimes happens to me. ls -l / Is /tmp writable? |
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| 14:50.40 | komozo | enouf : ok thanks, i am checking... |
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| 14:53.15 | pierrep | enouf, works |
| 14:53.21 | pierrep | :) |
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| 14:54.42 | testi | poisonbit, fxiny: I need a tool that monitors a file or directory for changes including how much the file got bigger in bytes per seconds. I don't want to inspect a process or chained processes, especially not if it requires to restart these. I thought fileschanged or a similar tool has that functionality, but i can't find anything about it anymore. |
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| 14:55.21 | iluminator101 | i upgrade to pidgin 2.5.8-1 still having the same problem what servers you guys using for yahoo on pidgin |
| 14:56.25 | asg | testi: you may look at libnotify and perhaps one of the language bindings (i.e. python) to see if that will allow you to code something simple to do what you want. |
| 14:57.25 | poisonbit | iluminator101, scsa.msg.yahoo.com |
| 14:57.39 | testi | asg: I'll do so if i can't find it in half an hour, but until then i'll try to find the tool that provides that functionality. I know that tool exists, but i just don't remember the name. |
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| 14:58.21 | iluminator101 | poisonbit:scsa not scs?? |
| 14:58.28 | asg | testi: iwatch maybe? |
| 14:59.18 | fxiny | yeahhh |
| 14:59.29 | poisonbit | iluminator101, i haven't touched that option, yes scsa.msg is the default in the debian package, and here in spain, connects to yahoo messenger |
| 14:59.43 | Qew | iluminator101: yeah, I also have scsa.msg.yahoo.com |
| 14:59.51 | Qew | no probs with yahoo and 2.5.8 |
| 14:59.54 | fxiny | not sure if iwatch notifies file size |
| 15:00.15 | skellington | if i was to install a basic system, would it be a lot faster than winxp? if so, how much faster? |
| 15:00.28 | asg | since it's a perl script, it might provide a framework example to hack on --- provided inotify supports reporting that data. |
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| 15:01.06 | iluminator101 | Unknown error number 1013. Logging into the Yahoo! website may fix this. |
| 15:01.07 | asg | skellington: it depends on the context of what you mean by 'faster'. |
| 15:01.15 | fxiny | i remember something called dirwatch |
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| 15:03.23 | skellington | asg: in terms of boot time on a computer with a 1.6mHz processor and 1GB ram. |
| 15:03.50 | Qew | iluminator101: read http://www.nabble.com/-9467:-Unknown-Error-1013-td24154349.html the error seems to be due to the @yahoo.com part in your username... remove it and just keep the id |
| 15:04.18 | Qew | iluminator101: login id, that is. So if it's iluminator101@yahoo.com, just have iluminator101 |
| 15:04.29 | Zharf | is there some logs of what dpkg has installed and when? |
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| 15:06.06 | petemc | Zharf: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 15:06.12 | Zharf | so I see |
| 15:06.19 | Zharf | now just to figure out what screwed up X |
| 15:07.11 | asg | skellington: it will depend on a number of factors but in general, they will be about the same. |
| 15:07.50 | skellington | asg: darn, guess ill try it out anyway. |
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| 15:08.11 | asg | skellington: yes, do try because it may be better in your situation; there are just too many variables. |
| 15:08.26 | Led_Zeppelin | I was wondering if Power over Ethernet is supported in Linux... |
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| 15:09.43 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, ???? |
| 15:09.55 | Led_Zeppelin | I meant ethernet over power |
| 15:09.55 | Led_Zeppelin | lol |
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| 15:10.12 | fxiny | testi: dirwatch101.c is still arpound , but it only logs to a file any data changes .it logs the data |
| 15:10.14 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: probably depends how it is presented to the OS |
| 15:10.14 | Led_Zeppelin | Like you can get ethernet over your powerlines. Those adapters, will they work with linux? |
| 15:10.25 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: you mean the netgear ones ? |
| 15:10.25 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, you mean network over the powergrid? |
| 15:10.34 | Led_Zeppelin | yes |
| 15:10.38 | abrotman | yes to which question |
| 15:10.46 | Led_Zeppelin | Ethernet Over Power |
| 15:11.05 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, its for both. |
| 15:11.06 | skellington | asg: i was also wondering if you could tell me which debian i need for my processor. i have an intel atom processor. |
| 15:11.19 | petemc | Led_Zeppelin: it works fine, its just an ethernet connection |
| 15:11.20 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: they're not really the same thing .. one is for your LAN, one for your ISP |
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| 15:11.31 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, for LAN |
| 15:11.34 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: the LAN ones work fine (like the ones netgear has) |
| 15:11.49 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, its not OS specific |
| 15:12.00 | abrotman | no idea about the ISP variety (not sure how the ISP makes it work with your OS) |
| 15:13.09 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, things to watch for are hardware related freq-filters in your incoming power-grid and low-band-width filters in measere-equiupment can mess up, but for the rest it works brillantly |
| 15:13.28 | Led_Zeppelin | dutchfish, i won't even know how to watchout for them |
| 15:13.33 | Led_Zeppelin | dutchfish, do you recommend a brand? |
| 15:13.37 | asg | skellington: the standard i386 will work |
| 15:13.50 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: do you have that ISP option in your area ? |
| 15:14.01 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, its not for an ISP. Its for my LAN |
| 15:14.04 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, you simply have to test, if your powermeter has filters nothing can be done |
| 15:14.19 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, most haven't |
| 15:14.25 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: oh, as long as your house has sane power .. beware that some don't work through surge protectors |
| 15:14.29 | Led_Zeppelin | its a new condo dutchfish |
| 15:14.39 | skellington | asg: k thanks. |
| 15:14.42 | testi | fxiny, asg: the tool i was looking for is "speedometer", but now that i found it i see that it can't monitor directories, so i have to write such a tool myself, thanks |
| 15:14.54 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, electonic power meter or the old-style with a metal disk? |
| 15:15.05 | Led_Zeppelin | dutchfish, i think so..yes |
| 15:15.13 | abrotman | it was an "or" question |
| 15:15.20 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, think what? |
| 15:15.25 | Led_Zeppelin | metal disk |
| 15:15.26 | Led_Zeppelin | yes |
| 15:15.33 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, that might work |
| 15:15.35 | abrotman | gives Led_Zeppelin some comprehension lessons |
| 15:16.04 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, he said , "electric meter"..I always though there was only 1 electric meter, the round metal disk ones... |
| 15:16.10 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, go for the 100mbit ones, the faster ones wont work that good |
| 15:16.16 | Led_Zeppelin | oh ok |
| 15:16.25 | Led_Zeppelin | speed is important for me :-) I stread a lot of music across |
| 15:16.54 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, then cat5e wiring, nothing cna beat that ;) |
| 15:17.09 | Led_Zeppelin | just looks ugly across the hallway..thats all |
| 15:17.11 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, but 100mbit is enough |
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| 15:17.26 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, wireless? |
| 15:17.51 | Led_Zeppelin | eh! wireless sucks. Its works sometimes and sometimes it does not |
| 15:17.59 | Led_Zeppelin | suddenly it stopped working for me! |
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| 15:18.38 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, well its your party, but lan-over-thegrid has its own portions of problems too |
| 15:18.44 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: tried an 802.11n router/NIC ? |
| 15:19.12 | Led_Zeppelin | dutchfish, what problems? |
| 15:19.56 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, induction, filters, etc |
| 15:20.07 | Led_Zeppelin | thanks dutchfish |
| 15:20.14 | dutchfish | Led_Zeppelin, yw |
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| 15:22.46 | g00se | dutchfish: It's *slightly* OS-specific afaik, in that some ether-over-power ones use encryption. I use them (without cryp) |
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| 15:24.22 | daedhel | how can I block a specific host on my server ? I want any box from *.hinet.net to be blocked from any connection to my server |
| 15:25.24 | g00se | daedhel: hosts.deny |
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| 15:26.02 | g00se | ( /etc/hosts.deny ) |
| 15:26.04 | p3rror | echo "ALL: *.hinet.net" >> /etc/hosts.deny |
| 15:26.38 | daedhel | g00se, p3rror thanks for the answer. I read on this, as this was the first thing I tried, but I have read somwhere that not all services respect hosts.deny . Is that right ? |
| 15:26.58 | avu | daedhel, it is |
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| 15:27.17 | avu | daedhel, use iptables to really block all access from a given IP or IP range |
| 15:27.37 | g00se | daedhel: You're better off doing it at the firewall if there is one |
| 15:27.46 | daedhel | there is iptables |
| 15:28.04 | poisonbit | and you can denny at lower level, using ip route |
| 15:28.15 | poisonbit | and source routing |
| 15:28.20 | bullgard4 | what does the '/' stand for in '$ grep -r '"pcm"' sound/ '? |
| 15:28.22 | poisonbit | :) |
| 15:28.24 | daedhel | any way to know what are is the ip ranges of the offensive hosts ? |
| 15:28.41 | avu | bullgard4, it indicates that sound is a directory. it's not needed though |
| 15:28.46 | daedhel | poisonbit, i'm sorry I lost you there |
| 15:29.00 | daedhel | poisonbit, still a bit n00b |
| 15:29.25 | bullgard4 | avu: Thank you. |
| 15:29.39 | daedhel | poisonbit, should I read on "ip route" and "source reading" ? |
| 15:29.46 | avu | daedhel, there is no way to do that. the names under one subdomain don't have to point to addresses in the same network |
| 15:30.01 | avu | daedhel, and with properly configured DNS servers, there's no way for you to get a list of all names |
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| 15:30.57 | daedhel | avu, do you have any suggestion then ? |
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| 15:31.28 | avu | daedhel, it's really not practical to do this on hostname basis. you don't want a DNS query fired on every incomming connection to your machine |
| 15:31.51 | daedhel | avu, youre 100% right |
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| 15:35.45 | poisonbit | daedhel, using "ip rule" + "ip route" you can define a prohibit for that network. More info in http://linux-ip.net/html/ |
| 15:36.13 | daedhel | poisonbit, thanks man |
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| 15:37.20 | marcel | I seemed to have screwed up my raid1 array on debian 5 |
| 15:38.00 | marcel | does anyone know how I can get rid of "no devices found" error that occur when I boot and it tries to assemble my raid arrays? |
| 15:38.51 | marcel | when I do mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 it seems to be fine, but when I reboot I'm screwed again |
| 15:39.59 | marcel | the only thing I did to break it was disconnecting drives and later reconnecting them... this has cause something to change |
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| 15:41.45 | aflag | is there a command for purging any removed package? |
| 15:42.02 | poisonbit | aptitude purge package |
| 15:42.30 | poisonbit | see dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii' to search for candidates |
| 15:43.21 | aflag | hm, I knew about that command already, I just thought there might be something that didn't require me to do scripting |
| 15:44.36 | ajavid | good morning |
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| 15:45.37 | hark | aflag: aptitude purge '~c' |
| 15:45.42 | poisonbit | aflag, see --purge-unused |
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| 15:47.30 | hark | --purge-unused is something else entirely |
| 15:47.39 | aflag | oh you can pass in a package state to apritude, I didn't know about that. Thanks :) |
| 15:50.40 | adb | marcel: try add at boot bootdelay=10 |
| 15:51.10 | marcel | adb: what does this do? |
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| 15:51.34 | adb | delay the boot 10 sec |
| 15:52.00 | marcel | adb: I already partially fixed it... in my mdadm.conf I had numofdevies=2 and I changed it to 3 and now it works better |
| 15:52.07 | marcel | adb: but why delay for 10 seconds? |
| 15:52.29 | adb | time to agregate the raid |
| 15:52.52 | adb | aggregate* |
| 15:53.20 | GuySoft | hi all, i think i located a bug: i am using a RTL language. and if i set the page to have two coulombs, the entry in them goes from LTR, not from RTL. is there a workaround this? |
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| 15:53.53 | marcel | adb: I can try, but I don't think it's the problem... it always worked fine, until I added a spare drive and tried to remove a faulty drive... from then on mdadm was confused |
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| 15:55.23 | poisonbit | aflag, aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{printf $2" "}') |
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| 16:03.57 | skellington | does the debian installer allow me to manage partitions before i install? |
| 16:04.04 | metalfan__ | hi |
| 16:04.09 | skellington | hi metalfan |
| 16:04.21 | petemc | skellington: yes |
| 16:04.25 | metalfan__ | how do i list the instal location of a packet if i only got the name? |
| 16:04.33 | skellington | petemc: thank you very much. |
| 16:04.40 | misha | dpkg -L <name> |
| 16:04.40 | dpkg | ii <name> 3.6-13 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 16:05.57 | phogg | packet != package |
| 16:06.05 | Tapout | my ssh connections will disconnect after idle for 15-20 minutes. This only happens with my new adsl modem. Anyone know what this could be? it's nothing related to the server/ssh because different isp/modems won't disconnect... |
| 16:06.16 | misha | my bad, sorry |
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| 16:06.58 | metalfan__ | misha, thx...only looked at aptitude |
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| 16:08.52 | misha | skellington, what do you mean by partitions? if you want shrink a litle bit NTFS partition and free some room for debian - then answear is no. if you have free space and want to create paritions for /, /home, swap - then definitely yes. |
| 16:09.33 | misha | phogg, what is packet then, btw? |
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| 16:10.36 | phogg | misha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology) |
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| 16:11.58 | misha | i meant realted to debian ;-) |
| 16:12.47 | skellington | misha: i meant shrink ntfs to make room for debian |
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| 16:13.01 | skellington | but i guess i could do that in winxp |
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| 16:14.03 | misha | skellington, I needed this only once, and i used some tool from Acronis to do this. |
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| 16:17.24 | skellington | oh? well winxp has a disc manager built in and i have partition magic just in case |
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| 16:19.26 | skellington | debian can access ntfs partitions for read/write, though, right? |
| 16:19.38 | niklas | yeah |
| 16:19.43 | misha | yes |
| 16:20.01 | skellington | awesome. |
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| 16:20.54 | maligor | using ntfs-3g |
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| 16:31.10 | RadSurfer | WHERE can I find libglib-1.2 for debian 5.0.2 please? |
| 16:31.14 | thuggz | hi all |
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| 16:34.23 | h3xis | RadSurfer: the package name is libglib1.2-dev |
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| 16:35.44 | abrotman | those are the headers package |
| 16:37.06 | h3xis | it pulls libglib1.2ldbl |
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| 16:45.56 | bullgard4 | /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.28/sound/core/info.c calls itself an "Information interface for ALSA driver". What do I have to visualize as an 'information interface for ALSA driver'? |
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| 16:49.10 | GuySoft | nm, got it, but the reaction is buggy |
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| 16:54.17 | Zambezi | I want to upgrade Lenny to Sid. Is it Lenny->Sid or Lenny->Squeeze->Sid? |
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| 16:55.14 | h3xis | lenny -> sid |
| 16:55.24 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 16:55.32 | dob1 | how can i resolve this W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net testing/security-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1201817096 KEYEXPIRED 1201817096 KEYEXPIRED 1201817096 ? |
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| 16:56.26 | Zambezi | h3xis: Thanks. I give it a go next week, but it might be a good idea to try on a secondary harddrive. |
| 16:56.46 | h3xis | :] |
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| 16:57.43 | h3xis | dob1: you need the new key (if the maintainer has even generated a new one) or switch to a different mirror |
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| 16:57.56 | Zambezi | h3xis: Graphicdrivers-issue is main reason. There are alot of bugfixes related to randr that are fixed since the version in Lenny. |
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| 16:58.45 | h3xis | Zambezi: why sid? are they resolved in squeeze? |
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| 16:59.16 | Zambezi | h3xis: No. Same version in Lenny and Squeeze. |
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| 16:59.41 | h3xis | Zambezi: oh okay. well you could always run squeeze and install from sid |
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| 17:00.50 | mick_laptop | hi everyone, if I type in <tab> in the terminal it says "Would you like to display all ###...." how can I pipe that output to a file instead of the pager? |
| 17:00.53 | Zambezi | h3xis: I tried Squeeze, but one application crashed too many times. I really don't think Sid will be any better there, but maybe it's possible to backport that packages. |
| 17:01.16 | mick_laptop | or as a hack I can make "cat" my $PAGER :) |
| 17:01.38 | mick_laptop | there is probably a proper way to do it though that I'm not thinking about |
| 17:01.57 | Zambezi | mick_laptop: It's not a solution but ls -1 > file.txt |
| 17:02.07 | Zambezi | mick_laptop: That might give you ideas. |
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| 17:02.19 | mick_laptop | Zambezi: not at all |
| 17:02.35 | mick_laptop | since I want everything in all of my $PATH directories |
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| 17:05.12 | mick_laptop | damn, aliasing less and more to cat didn't work |
| 17:05.25 | poisonbit | $ ls -1 $( echo $PATH | tr ':' ' ') |
| 17:05.59 | poisonbit | ? |
| 17:06.07 | pp-popo | what is the best command to use to configure xorg.conf? Because mine is blank. Is that normal? |
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| 17:06.49 | mick_laptop | pp-popo: depends, do you have x running? |
| 17:07.04 | cahoot | pp-popo: do you miss any function? |
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| 17:07.29 | mick_laptop | i personally use: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if someone screws up my x.org |
| 17:07.29 | pp-popo | mick_laptop: yes |
| 17:07.37 | mick_laptop | ok, and everything works? |
| 17:07.51 | mick_laptop | poisonbit: thanks btw |
| 17:08.12 | mick_laptop | it requires for my $PATH to not have entries that don't exist though :) |
| 17:08.13 | pp-popo | cahoot: my text looks very poor. I got my resolution fixed but the text looks off. |
| 17:08.38 | keith4_ | can I get a list of things that I have installed from backports.org? |
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| 17:09.27 | pp-popo | mick_laptop: i have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but that does nothing but ask me about ketborad and mouse settings. Nothing video related. |
| 17:09.48 | mick_laptop | just go to the end of that and then it will generate a file for you |
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| 17:10.29 | cahoot | pp-popo: dpi wrong? |
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| 17:11.06 | pp-popo | cahoot: ok, maybe. how can i change that? |
| 17:11.30 | pp-popo | mick_laptop: it does not create a file for me? |
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| 17:12.07 | cahoot | pp-popo: xdpyinfo | grep dots |
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| 17:13.15 | poisonbit | pp-popo, if your xorg.conf is empty, X will use hardware autodetection. Anything that you declare in xorg.conf will overwritte autodetection. To generate a skeleton of xorg.conf, run with X stopped: Xorg -configure |
| 17:13.18 | pp-popo | cahoot: resolution: 99x98 dots per inch |
| 17:13.19 | Akuw | how could i install Debian in ASUS Eee PC 1000HA 10" no CD or DVD drive? |
| 17:13.30 | Akuw | by network or USB pen drive? |
| 17:13.38 | keith4_ | yes |
| 17:13.42 | CcSsNET | seems logical ^ |
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| 17:13.55 | keith4_ | loves it when people answer their own questions |
| 17:14.07 | CcSsNET | mmm |
| 17:14.33 | CcSsNET | akuw in both those scenarios it seems usb pen will be faster |
| 17:14.38 | inckie | mmmm questions |
| 17:14.40 | Akuw | okl |
| 17:14.41 | pp-popo | cahoot: is that ok for an 20" LCD 1680x1050? |
| 17:14.42 | CcSsNET | unless u have a second pc handy |
| 17:14.52 | keith4_ | netboot is tricky the first time |
| 17:15.21 | CcSsNET | especially explained over irc |
| 17:15.23 | CcSsNET | heh |
| 17:15.39 | pp-popo | poisonbit: thanks i will try this. Now that command will just give me the format of the file, i have to put the good stuff in? |
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| 17:15.55 | cahoot | pp-popo: you could divide 1680 by the physical width to check |
| 17:16.03 | poisonbit | yes, things like lengauge, custom options, etc |
| 17:16.07 | amine | how can I see if a package has been backported for debian |
| 17:16.09 | poisonbit | language |
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| 17:17.19 | Akuw | i better use Fusbi |
| 17:17.20 | poisonbit | amine, backported to stable? use: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=packages |
| 17:17.35 | amine | poisonbit: just did that, did not find the package :( |
| 17:17.51 | poisonbit | amine, which package do you need backported ? |
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| 17:18.18 | amine | poisonbit: qemu and kqemu-source |
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| 17:18.46 | amine | the version in stable is very very old |
| 17:18.52 | pp-popo | how can i change my dpi? |
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| 17:19.45 | h3xis | pp-popo: using gnome? |
| 17:19.45 | pp-popo | h3xis: yes sir |
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| 17:19.56 | h3xis | go into appearance preferences and click the fonts tab. then click details. you can set it there |
| 17:20.13 | poisonbit | amine, 10.5 is in sid, you can try that: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port |
| 17:20.43 | amine | poisonbit: yup, that's what I'm doing now :-) |
| 17:20.44 | amine | thakns |
| 17:20.46 | amine | thanks* |
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| 17:21.27 | th0r | how much difference is there between debian 5.0 and ubuntu 9.04? |
| 17:21.28 | amine | !give poisonbit ssb |
| 17:21.29 | dpkg | gives poisonbit ssb |
| 17:21.47 | amine | poisonbit: dpkg messaged you instructions that contradict the website you gave me |
| 17:21.57 | amine | website says to add both deb-src's and ssb says only a single |
| 17:22.13 | amine | sid = testing or unstable? |
| 17:22.21 | poisonbit | unstable |
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| 17:22.37 | poisonbit | yes, the debian reference is a bit outdated |
| 17:23.16 | pp-popo | h3xis: is that the same dpi setting as xdpyinfo telling me I am using? |
| 17:23.34 | cahoot | they differ? |
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| 17:24.10 | pp-popo | i just changed the setting in gnome and xdpyinfo is telling me a different number |
| 17:24.14 | h3xis | pp-popo: dont know :/ alternatively, you can set it in your xorg.conf under device. i think it's Option "DPI" "X x Y" |
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| 17:25.00 | cahoot | pp-popo: did changing the setting in gnome do any good? |
| 17:25.12 | Mariusika | what GUI should i use to play GO game online(Gnome)? |
| 17:26.18 | skellington | hey guys, ext2 or ext3? |
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| 17:27.01 | h3xis | skellington: for? |
| 17:27.03 | pp-popo | cahoot: no it just made the bad looking text bigger. |
| 17:27.12 | skellington | debian. im about to install it. |
| 17:27.18 | h3xis | skellington: ext3 |
| 17:27.46 | cahoot | pp-popo: did you manual calculation differ from what xorg set itself? |
| 17:28.45 | skellington | k thanks. |
| 17:28.50 | pp-popo | cahoot: xorg set itself. |
| 17:29.09 | cahoot | pp-popo:well did your manual calculation differ from what xorg set itself? |
| 17:29.13 | pp-popo | can i be sured that xrandr does not work with nvidia cards? |
| 17:30.21 | pp-popo | cahoot: i dont know how to get the physical width? |
| 17:30.23 | cahoot | pp-popo: I suppose xorgs driver - nv - is ok with xrandr |
| 17:30.34 | pp-popo | just measure with tape? |
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| 17:30.35 | cahoot | pp-popo: measure it? |
| 17:31.23 | skellington | also, the partition should be logical right? |
| 17:31.44 | h3xis | depends on your partition table |
| 17:31.47 | amine | poisonbit: when im done backporting, do I remove the deb-src from sources.list ? |
| 17:32.19 | skellington | h3xis: what do you mean? |
| 17:32.41 | poisonbit | amine, yes, or comment the line |
| 17:32.54 | h3xis | skellington: which partition are you installing it on? |
| 17:33.13 | cahoot | skellington: you can have at most 4 primary partitions - if you need more you must create logical |
| 17:33.16 | amine | poisonbit: it updated core packages like dbus etc, if I remove deb-src unstable and do an update/upgrade will it downgrade them |
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| 17:33.24 | kazabe | hi |
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| 17:33.51 | kazabe | exist some problem with the package apache-mpm on lenny? |
| 17:34.08 | kazabe | i cant install apache2 because exist a conflict with the apache-mpm dependencies |
| 17:34.13 | poisonbit | amine, deb-src repos are for get the .orig.tar.gz, the .dsc and the .diff files i think |
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| 17:34.32 | kazabe | one dependence kill the another :( |
| 17:34.35 | skellington | its going right after my winxp partition, however, i have two other primary partitions, so i can only make one more right? |
| 17:34.47 | amine | poisonbit: well instructions said to install all dependencies for the sid package that I wanted |
| 17:35.09 | h3xis | skellington: yes, but you will need at least 2 partitions for your debian install: 1 for / and 1 for swap |
| 17:35.22 | azeem | kazabe: apache-mpm or apache2-mpm? |
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| 17:35.37 | azeem | kazabe: you might not be able to install both apache1 and apache2 at the sametime |
| 17:35.47 | cahoot | h3xis: unless he uses a swapfile |
| 17:35.58 | kazabe | azeem apache2-mpm |
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| 17:36.06 | h3xis | cahoot: oh right |
| 17:36.06 | skellington | h3xis: whats the advantage of making a partition primary? ill just make the swap logical. |
| 17:36.07 | kazabe | i only have apache2 |
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| 17:36.28 | kazabe | im try to upgrade apache2 and obtain that error |
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| 17:36.40 | kazabe | so uninstall completly apache* and now can install again :( |
| 17:36.55 | renton_ | helo midi looks not to be working on my debian even if i have /dev/sequencer |
| 17:36.57 | renton_ | any idea? |
| 17:37.20 | h3xis | skellington: i think it's jus tpersonal preference. making swap logical is fine |
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| 17:37.51 | skellington | k thanks. |
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| 17:39.44 | kazabe | i uninstall all apache* and now i cant install apache2 again :( so now i dont have webserver |
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| 17:40.44 | kazabe | apache2-mpm-worker kill apache2-mpm-event but both are dependencies of apache2 |
| 17:40.56 | skellington | huh, this is weird. i cant make a primary and a logical. only one primary or two logicals. |
| 17:41.03 | skellington | i guess im going all logical. |
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| 17:41.42 | h3xis | skellington: you can make a swapfile and not have a swap partition |
| 17:41.43 | fxiny | you mean extended ? |
| 17:42.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | kazabe, lenny? |
| 17:42.03 | keith4_ | weird. I have two identical setups, with xmms2 and xmms-plugin-daap installed. one segfaults while loading the daap lib, one is fine |
| 17:42.05 | kazabe | yes |
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| 17:42.13 | kazabe | CutMeOwnThroat yes. lenny |
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| 17:43.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | pastebin your sources.list and the output of aptitude install apache2 ? |
| 17:43.24 | Phil4 | can anyone suggest how to print out a file from line X? |
| 17:44.00 | fxiny | skellington: make an extended |
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| 17:44.31 | poisonbit | Phil4, grep -l number file |
| 17:44.35 | skellington | i dont know if i can. but a swap file sounds good. |
| 17:44.51 | fxiny | swap logical is fine |
| 17:44.52 | kazabe | this is my sources.list |
| 17:44.56 | kazabe | http://pastebin.com/m4418c8d1 |
| 17:45.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | Phil4, tail -X? |
| 17:45.30 | renton_ | hello midi looks not to be working on my debian even if i have /dev/sequencer .. any idea? |
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| 17:46.30 | kazabe | this is my apt-get output |
| 17:46.47 | kazabe | http://pastebin.com/m65441bd8 |
| 17:46.47 | \amethyst | Phil4: tail -n +X |
| 17:46.50 | cahoot | renton_: this is old news? http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/MPU-401_MIDI_setup_%28Howto%29 |
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| 17:47.28 | skellington | ok i made an extended. the extended is primary. the two inside are logical. |
| 17:47.31 | skellington | that sounds ok. |
| 17:48.03 | fxiny | skellington: you can make more then 2 logicals |
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| 17:48.28 | skellington | yes i know. but i only need two right now. one for / and one for swap |
| 17:48.38 | fxiny | no home ? |
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| 17:48.58 | skellington | huh? |
| 17:49.07 | fxiny | skellington: home is good for restoring your system |
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| 17:49.26 | skellington | how large should that be? |
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| 17:49.58 | avu | skellington, as large as possible |
| 17:50.35 | cahoot | so how big should make / ? |
| 17:50.38 | avu | skellington, on desktop systems with huge disks, I usually use 10 or 20 GB for /, 1 for swap and the remaining space for /home |
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| 17:51.22 | lontra | how can i tell what my font is for xterm? |
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| 17:51.40 | skellington | well im planning on giving it very little space(only 14gb) because i wanted it to be for quick uses and not for a lot of work. |
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| 17:52.21 | skellington | so 2gb for swap, 12 for / |
| 17:52.26 | cahoot | lontra: xprop |
| 17:52.28 | avu | skellington, keep in mind that any data you produce/save as user will end up there. music, videos, downloads, everything |
| 17:52.40 | skellington | i cant write to ntfs? |
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| 17:53.00 | avu | sure you can |
| 17:53.09 | skellington | and im not going to be doing a lot there. just browsing, social networking, chatting, that kind of stuff. |
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| 17:53.16 | avu | but I wouldn't use it as primary data storage, as it's quite slow and immature compared to ext3 |
| 17:53.38 | flower | how do I make a password for x11vnc |
| 17:54.05 | avu | flower, you can just provide one on the commandline iirc |
| 17:54.16 | jelly-home | flower: vncpasswd |
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| 17:55.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | kazabe, two things to try... a) run aptitude install apache2 instead of apt-get and see what it comes up with; and b) remove the volatile repro from your sources.list, run apt-get update and try again |
| 17:55.29 | jelly-home | flower: package vnc4server |
| 17:55.57 | kazabe | CutMeOwnThroat ok |
| 17:56.04 | renton_ | cahoot: my audio chip is this : [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller |
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| 17:56.24 | skellington | avu: i see your point, but im going to use windows for almost everything else. so id like to have access to my files when im in windows |
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| 17:57.02 | kazabe | CutMeOwnThroat remove volatile dont affect the updates to my antivirus upgrades? or remove it temporally |
| 17:57.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | kazabe, also... if before you paste things, do LANG=C - having the output in spanish(?) doesn't make reading it easier |
| 17:57.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | kazabe, you can do it temporarily |
| 17:57.37 | kazabe | CutMeOwnThroat OK :) |
| 17:57.43 | fxiny | skellington: you can access your ext3 files from windows |
| 17:58.17 | skellington | how? |
| 17:58.24 | fxiny | an ext3 partition as storage is fine |
| 17:59.02 | jelly-home | skellington: ntfs-3g package provides a reasonably good ntfs write capable driver |
| 17:59.18 | fxiny | some windows drivers , can't remember the name , google for it |
| 17:59.36 | jelly-home | fs-driver.org |
| 18:00.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | kazabe, you also have mirrors.kernel.org/debian and ftp.debian.org/debian - I think both should be the same repro, and you'd only need one |
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| 18:00.42 | fxiny | skellington: say you want to play a game but your game.iso is stored in a linux etx3 partition , you can load it easy |
| 18:00.52 | jelly-home | !ext2ifs |
| 18:00.52 | dpkg | Ext2 Installable File System For Windows, a Windows NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008 driver for accessing <ext2> and <ext3> filesystems. Supports reading and writing. http://www.fs-driver.org/ See also <ext2fsd>. |
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| 18:01.49 | skellington | man thats awesome. |
| 18:02.46 | fxiny | skellington: so , at this stage of partitiuoning , giving more space to ext3 partitions instead of ntfs , is good for you |
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| 18:03.15 | fxiny | no mercy :P |
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| 18:03.38 | skellington | yeah. ill do that. |
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| 18:04.05 | skellington | 44gb sounds pretty leniant. all my music will still be on the windows partition. |
| 18:04.13 | fxiny | why ? |
| 18:04.24 | skellington | itunes. |
| 18:05.32 | skellington | also, this changes my plans of having a teenytiny system. now its full blown linux. |
| 18:05.48 | skellington | i mean i knew it was linux all along. |
| 18:05.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | doesn't that ext2 windows driver crash a lot? I only tried one a couple of years ago.... perhaps that has changed |
| 18:06.07 | fxiny | glad to hear that |
| 18:06.22 | |niko| | How can I resume an scp -r command? |
| 18:06.28 | |niko| | It failed because the destination was full |
| 18:06.36 | jelly-home | |niko|: you can't. |
| 18:06.44 | |niko| | But I freed up space and do not want to recopy the stuff I got alreadu |
| 18:06.52 | jelly-home | |niko|: if you have rsync on both ends, use that instead |
| 18:06.53 | |niko| | jelly-home: Any other solutions? |
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| 18:06.54 | avu | |niko|, use lftp, not scp |
| 18:06.56 | |niko| | rsync maybe? |
| 18:07.01 | avu | yes, or rsync |
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| 18:07.10 | |niko| | So what would the command be |
| 18:07.24 | |niko| | to reesume, recursively, and getting all file/folders even that start with . |
| 18:07.57 | fxiny | crashes ? i dunno . i played that very large c&c iso game without problems , long ago |
| 18:08.11 | jelly-home | |niko|: rsync -a sourcestuffs remote:destination/path/ |
| 18:08.29 | jelly-home | |niko|: add -P or -v to your liking |
| 18:08.47 | jelly-home | rtfm for the explanation |
| 18:08.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | and some lemon juice |
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| 18:10.03 | amine | hey |
| 18:10.08 | jelly-home | |niko|: also -n is fun to just see what would happen but not copy anything |
| 18:10.10 | amine | how can I tell my system to bring all packages back down to stable |
| 18:10.19 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 18:10.19 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn> |
| 18:10.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | "not" |
| 18:10.34 | jelly-home | amine: if there's a lot of them, simplest thing to do is reinstall |
| 18:10.35 | |niko| | Not sure what -P does |
| 18:10.47 | amine | I think dbus is the most important |
| 18:10.47 | |niko| | --partial --progress? |
| 18:11.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | it means "man rsync"? |
| 18:11.27 | jelly-home | that's what man rsync says. |
| 18:11.54 | |niko| | oh wait yeah |
| 18:11.57 | |niko| | I like -P |
| 18:12.08 | jelly-home | thought you would |
| 18:12.14 | |niko| | so I'm going to do -Pna |
| 18:12.42 | jelly-home | for starters, yes. when you're happy with the results, omit the dry run param |
| 18:12.47 | |niko| | right |
| 18:12.47 | |niko| | cool |
| 18:12.50 | |niko| | thank you! |
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| 18:13.12 | Qew | amine: I think you asked about backporting above. Did you add not just the Sid deb-src line in sources.list but also the deb one, too? If not, there's no way your dbus would have been upgraded beyond your stable release, because deb-src by itself won't be installing any package (only apt-get source deals with that, and it pulls in sources, not binary packages). |
| 18:13.44 | foxtrot | can someone recommend a way to setup iptables rulesets, besides the way that the bot in here says (it says to recreate a 3.1-style iptables init script) isnt there a newer/better way? |
| 18:13.47 | killown | how I do to install v4l2? |
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| 18:14.36 | amine | Qew: I added deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free, and did aptitude upgrade and aptitude build-dep qemu |
| 18:14.40 | amine | update* |
| 18:15.53 | jelly-home | foxtrot: http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 18:16.30 | jelly-home | foxtrot: loading the rules as a pre-up seems reasonable |
| 18:16.41 | foxtrot | thanks |
| 18:17.12 | daedhel | anyone can suggest a way do diagnose why I have enormous i/o & cpu peaks ? what programm is behind, and other things |
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| 18:17.39 | Qew | amine: what is your version of dbus, and what's the rest of your sources.list is? (use pastebin) |
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| 18:18.42 | foxtrot | jelly-home: now that is an awesome site, earlier someone recommend a 434 page site (http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html) earlier.... |
| 18:19.01 | amine | Qew: how can I check dbus version |
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| 18:19.21 | cahoot | daedhel: iotop? |
| 18:19.34 | Qew | amine: amine dpkg -l dbus |
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| 18:20.31 | amine | 1.2.1-5 and all I have in my sources.list is deb http://mirror.rit.edu/debian stable main contrib non-free (and the default security) |
| 18:20.45 | Qew | amine: your dbus version is fine |
| 18:21.14 | amine | I thought I saw it say updating dbus{a} |
| 18:21.32 | Qew | yeah, from your Lenny |
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| 18:22.01 | Qew | Sid's deb-src doesn't install packages from Sid, just allows you to download sources |
| 18:22.07 | Qew | amine: ^^^ |
| 18:22.33 | amine | oh, I thought it builds them from sources |
| 18:22.36 | daedhel | cahoot, iotop gives nothing, even if my logs show peak |
| 18:22.40 | daedhel | i'm dazzled |
| 18:22.54 | Qew | amine: the aptitude build-dep would have taken from the lenny repositories mentioned in sources.list... unless you have other things in there. If you haven't, then it's fine. |
| 18:23.30 | amine | ah ok |
| 18:23.31 | amine | thanks! |
| 18:23.48 | Qew | amine: you can safely keep that deb-src line there: it won't be interfering with you and only works when you download debianised package sources |
| 18:24.24 | lafrance | hello if I create Aliasdomain can that be accessable via ftp to have a folder in ? |
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| 18:27.19 | Lysoform | hi all |
| 18:27.26 | Lysoform | anybody use cacti ??? |
| 18:27.44 | amine | Qew: thanks ! |
| 18:28.00 | Qew | amine: you use aptitude build-dep qemu/unstable to dowload the dependencies to build the package (which comes from your Lenny repos), then you use apt-get -t unstable source qemu to download the Debianised sources (which is what gets downloaded from the deb-src line), then you use cd into the source's directory and use dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc to build a deb, and then you manually install that created deb using dpkg -i qemu...blah...deb |
| 18:28.06 | Qew | hope that's not cut ;) |
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| 18:28.32 | Lysoform | hi. anybody used cacti?¡ |
| 18:28.49 | Eulex | probably |
| 18:29.08 | Qew | amine: so, if all you've got is two repo lines for stable and that deb-src line for sid, you won't have got anything from sid that you didn't want |
| 18:29.49 | Qew | amine: I'll stop boring you now ;) |
| 18:29.52 | Lysoform | I need help with cacti please |
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| 18:30.22 | Eulex | amine, you're still at it? any success? :) |
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| 18:31.23 | abrotman | Lysoform: there is also a #cacti |
| 18:31.53 | Lysoform | abrotman, yes im there too |
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| 18:32.21 | Eulex | Lysoform, did you ask the actual question yet, and not just ask for help? |
| 18:32.50 | foxtrot | what is port 137? |
| 18:33.03 | mjt | Is Alt+F1 a standard gnome "menu" shortcut? I wonder why they choose this one instead of Ctrl+Esc. |
| 18:33.13 | mjt | foxtrot: it's samba/windows thing |
| 18:33.15 | flower | mmh my vncviewer passwrd failes... |
| 18:33.19 | flower | howto change it |
| 18:33.32 | flower | vncviewer passwrd doesn't work for that |
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| 18:33.34 | abrotman | foxtrot: look in /etc/services |
| 18:33.36 | AL-Hadi | hello guys |
| 18:33.43 | AL-Hadi | i have installed inspircd just now |
| 18:33.47 | AL-Hadi | but when i do netstat |
| 18:33.50 | AL-Hadi | i get this error |
| 18:33.54 | AL-Hadi | "netstat: no support for `AF INET (tcp)' on this system." |
| 18:33.59 | AL-Hadi | please help me sir |
| 18:34.04 | abrotman | AL-Hadi: lay off the enter key |
| 18:34.04 | AL-Hadi | i cannot connect to irc |
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| 18:34.11 | AL-Hadi | ? |
| 18:34.34 | Lysoform | Eulex, I have a server with cacti, in eth0 has IP public, in eth1 has IP private, in my IP private hpicsas windows server ,and a one week ago , i change my public IP, and in that moment , cacti drawing very bad gra |
| 18:34.34 | AL-Hadi | plz help |
| 18:34.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | postleitzahl? |
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| 18:35.29 | AL-Hadi | any suggestions |
| 18:35.32 | AL-Hadi | "netstat: no support for `AF INET (tcp)' on this system." |
| 18:35.40 | AL-Hadi | error while i run inspircd |
| 18:35.43 | Eulex | Lysoform, 1. the question was cut off at "bad gra" 2. I asked whether you had asked that in #cacti, I know absolutely nothing about cacti myself ^^ |
| 18:36.05 | Lysoform | Eulex, ok |
| 18:36.10 | Lysoform | thanks |
| 18:36.54 | skellington | will the ext2 driver let me get into ext3 partitions? |
| 18:37.03 | \amethyst | AL-Hadi: does modprobe sctp fix it? |
| 18:37.09 | \amethyst | AL-Hadi: (as root) |
| 18:37.13 | foxtrot | whats the debian way to get iptables to log to a specific file (or anywhere but clogging up dmesg) |
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| 18:37.21 | AL-Hadi | sir i have root |
| 18:37.33 | AL-Hadi | what i have to do |
| 18:37.33 | AL-Hadi | ?? |
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| 18:37.37 | AL-Hadi | what command to type |
| 18:38.09 | \amethyst | hm, actually, I guess it won't work, that's for a slightly different error... but my suggestion had been to run modprobe sctp |
| 18:38.22 | amine | Qew: yup I understand, thanks |
| 18:38.30 | abrotman | AL-Hadi: which version of linux? |
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| 18:38.32 | amine | Eulex: no, I gave up :) |
| 18:38.33 | AL-Hadi | ks355730:~# modprobe sctp |
| 18:38.33 | AL-Hadi | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.27.10-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32/modules.dep: |
| 18:38.33 | AL-Hadi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:38.49 | abrotman | AL-Hadi: this channel is for Debian support, please go to #ubuntu to get help |
| 18:38.50 | AL-Hadi | how to know which version iam using ? |
| 18:38.58 | AL-Hadi | iam using debian |
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| 18:40.33 | fxiny | foxtrot: rsyslog filter can do that |
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| 18:42.51 | foxtrot | whats the difference between syslogd and klogd |
| 18:43.00 | foxtrot | and sysklogd |
| 18:43.36 | fxiny | you forgot to upgrade to rsyslog ? |
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| 18:44.09 | foxtrot | that was it ;) |
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| 18:45.09 | fxiny | sells his polished crystall ball on ebay |
| 18:45.19 | skellington | disregard my previous question. the answer was on the page. |
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| 18:48.37 | mjt | can gnome be set up to open (terminal) windows at different places, instead of keeping them all at the upper-left corner of the screen? |
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| 18:51.39 | ramoonas | mjt: i think it remembers your last opened position and size |
| 18:52.18 | mjt | oh well |
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| 18:52.35 | mjt | ..nope. |
| 18:52.48 | mjt | maybe gnome-terminal is, but not xterm or urxvt |
| 18:53.05 | ramoonas | i dont know :) |
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| 18:53.40 | mjt | and gnome-terminal also opens in upper-left corner even if previous session were at lower-right |
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| 18:55.25 | flower | why does my vncviewer passwd fails? |
| 18:55.33 | flower | vncviewer -passwd /home/d/.vnc/passwd -encodings "copyrect tight zrle hextile" localhost:0 |
| 18:56.18 | flower | I try to use it with x11vnc |
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| 18:57.02 | flower | or has this something to do with the passwd on the client? |
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| 19:00.16 | jelly-home | flower: this works for me: vncviewer -LowColourLevel=2 -AutoSelect=0 -passwd .vnc/passwd :0 |
| 19:00.30 | RadSurfer | WHAT IS the best way to install the very latest gcc? |
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| 19:00.41 | jelly-home | flower: is the password file readable by the user running vncviewer? |
| 19:01.08 | jelly-home | RadSurfer: what are you planning to do with it? |
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| 19:01.23 | RadSurfer | I need c/c++ to compile source, naturally |
| 19:01.31 | flower | jelly-home: yes |
| 19:01.50 | jelly-home | RadSurfer: no, why do you need "the very latest gcc"? |
| 19:02.18 | RadSurfer | Well, a reasonably up to date development package, with make, cmake, and all that stuff... is there an easy way to do that? |
| 19:02.26 | jelly-home | instead of, say, whatever comes with your destination release |
| 19:02.34 | amine | when is the next release of debian scheduled? |
| 19:02.40 | jelly-home | !wwsr |
| 19:02.40 | dpkg | There is no estimate for the release of <squeeze> currently. Subscribe to <d-d-a> to get news on the subject. |
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| 19:03.09 | RadSurfer | g++ 4.3, and just click on it? is there any way to get ALL of the necessary automated compile tools? |
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| 19:03.27 | avu | RadSurfer, install build-essential |
| 19:03.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | RadSurfer, aptitude install build-essentials |
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| 19:03.36 | RadSurfer | thanks |
| 19:03.39 | jelly-home | RadSurfer: usually you just go and install what you need. We don't know what's the exact toolset required |
| 19:03.51 | jelly-home | "build-essential", no s |
| 19:03.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | ops, ... strike that last s |
| 19:04.14 | FabParma | Does exist a GUI program to backup windows shared into a Lan? I need to automate the backups and get a log when finished. In M$ platform there is a program that does this, his name it is "Cobian Backup". I hope to find one equal or better then this. Thank you for help me |
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| 19:04.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | why would anyone want a gui for backups |
| 19:05.38 | flower | jelly-home: ah I got it working now |
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| 19:05.54 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: because nice presentation of backup jobs makes it easy for humans to monitor them? |
| 19:06.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, if that's your idea of a good time :) |
| 19:06.16 | nkuttler | FabParma: backuppc has a web interface |
| 19:06.37 | FabParma | CutMeOwnThroat: I need gui because in more i need a log via email |
| 19:06.57 | nkuttler | FabParma: huh? |
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| 19:07.10 | g00se | !tell FabParma about bacula |
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| 19:07.38 | FabParma | CutMeOwnThroat: I know that using batch, I can backup everytyng, but i cant send log when finished |
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| 19:09.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | emailing logs has nothing to do with having a gui |
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| 19:11.14 | jelly-home | FabParma: you just need a small tool to mail the |
| 19:11.17 | FabParma | you reason, but i wuold like a program that does everithing all-in-one. like cobian. cobian in more check the crc |
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| 19:11.47 | jelly-home | logs, if you already have a backup solution |
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| 19:12.17 | FabParma | so, basically, your suggestion is to use batch script and mail via batch |
| 19:12.22 | Bracki | What user is used for executing stuff in /etc/cron.daily? |
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| 19:14.07 | FabParma | and how to check the integrity of copied files, always using batch? |
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| 19:15.07 | RadSurfer | HEY! I installed 'gfortran4.3', and Terminal reports "command not found!" 'gfortran --version' should work, but it can't find it ? |
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| 19:16.07 | g00se | FabParma: a Windows rsync would do |
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| 19:17.32 | RadSurfer | installed the "gfortran 4:4.3 and that apparently worls |
| 19:17.38 | RadSurfer | works |
| 19:17.50 | nkuttler | RadSurfer: dpkg -L package | grep bin |
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| 19:17.59 | szymon_g | hi |
| 19:18.00 | RadSurfer | what does that do? |
| 19:18.11 | RadSurfer | list all packages? |
| 19:18.23 | RadSurfer | anyway, it works now. |
| 19:19.25 | FabParma | i try to be shorter. Backup m$ shares to a linux. get logs via email, data verification of copied file like crc check |
| 19:19.29 | szymon_g | which way is officially recommended for package-managing: aptitude or apt-get (personally, i use aptitude)? I need it for friend :~ |
| 19:20.47 | mjt | aptitude is sometimes more.. accurate than apt-get |
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| 19:21.20 | jelly-home | !why aptitude |
| 19:21.20 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 19:21.24 | RadSurfer | all things considered, this is going quite well :-) all my favorites slowly coming onboard |
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| 19:22.16 | Bracki | So will /etc/cron.daily/foo run with root rights? |
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| 19:24.55 | FabParma | Does exist a GUI program to backup m$ shares to a linux? I need to automate the backups, data verification (like crc) and get a log when finished via email. On m$ platforms there is a program that does this, his name it is "Cobian Backup". I hope to find one equal or better then this. Thank you for help me |
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| 19:25.14 | jelly-home | Bracki: yes. |
| 19:25.49 | FabParma | i have a look, thanks |
| 19:26.47 | FabParma | !tell FabParma about Bracki |
| 19:27.56 | FabParma | dpkg: i dunno what is 'Bracki'. |
| 19:27.56 | dpkg | FabParma: what are you talking about? |
| 19:28.00 | jelly-home | FabParma: that was an answer to user Bracki, not for you |
| 19:28.15 | FabParma | ok |
| 19:28.18 | FabParma | sorry |
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| 19:33.33 | rysiek|pl | hi all |
| 19:33.42 | rysiek|pl | guys, why exactly is sun java in non-free? |
| 19:33.56 | rysiek|pl | hasn't it been GPLed? |
| 19:34.19 | szymon_g | thanx jelly-home, i actually found it here http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites :) |
| 19:34.23 | skellington | how is that a debian question. |
| 19:34.37 | |niko| | rysiek|pl: Java 5 has not been GPLed |
| 19:34.38 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: that's still the non-free one .. look for openjdk or icedtea |
| 19:34.49 | rysiek|pl | ah |
| 19:34.49 | abrotman | judd: versions sun-java6-jre |
| 19:34.51 | judd | abrotman: sun-java6-jre -- etch-backports/non-free: 6-07-3~bpo40+1 sid/non-free: 6-10-2 lenny/non-free: 6-12-1 sid/non-free: 6-12-1 sid/non-free: 6-14-1 squeeze/non-free: 6-14-1 |
| 19:34.51 | rysiek|pl | right |
| 19:34.55 | rysiek|pl | java5 != java6 |
| 19:35.03 | rysiek|pl | fair enough |
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| 19:35.07 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: there's still a non-free java6 AFAIR |
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| 19:35.40 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: yeah, that makes sense |
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| 19:36.28 | |niko| | I ran rsync with the -a switch on a directory that had like, 98% already copied |
| 19:36.38 | |niko| | But it looks like it is copying the entire thing again... |
| 19:37.55 | Bracki | What could be the reason that a mounted drive switches into a "Read only file-system" also mount shows it s mounted "rw"? |
| 19:38.14 | Bracki | although |
| 19:38.15 | Tramp | |niko|: man rsync, check the --modify-window parameter |
| 19:38.15 | \amethyst | Bracki: I/O errors could be one reason |
| 19:38.18 | rysiek|pl | Bracki: read/write errors |
| 19:38.29 | \amethyst | Bracki: check dmesg | less |
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| 19:38.51 | rysiek|pl | Bracki: I would start backuping your data, preferably yesterday |
| 19:39.15 | Bracki | The thing is it's the mount where the backups should go ;p. |
| 19:39.19 | enouf | \amethyst: yo .. how far does your scrollback go ;-) Look for messages (in this channel from moi) |
| 19:39.37 | Bracki | \amethyst: Anythin to look for in particular in dmesg? |
| 19:39.38 | abrotman | /lastlog moi |
| 19:39.54 | rysiek|pl | Bracki: read/write and I/O errors |
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| 19:39.59 | jelly-home | Bracki: look at dmesg or /var/log/kern.log for filesystem or i/o issues |
| 19:40.08 | simonrvn | abrotman: no results for 'moi' |
| 19:40.23 | jelly-home | simonrvn: no, /lastlog him |
| 19:40.33 | abrotman | hehe |
| 19:40.43 | simonrvn | jelly-home: no results for 'him' |
| 19:40.50 | \amethyst | Bracki: 'Aborted Command', 'I/O error', and anything similar |
| 19:40.53 | jelly-home | simonrvn: your client is fawlty |
| 19:40.59 | enouf | !moismite \amethyst |
| 19:41.16 | \amethyst | Bracki: you could also try searching for your drive (e.g. if the r/o fs is on /dev/sda3 try searching for sda |
| 19:41.16 | Bracki | Like this: EXT3-fs error (device sdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal |
| 19:41.25 | simonrvn | jelly-home: fawlty towers |
| 19:41.32 | \amethyst | enouf: what in particular am I looking for in my logs? |
| 19:41.36 | jelly-home | Bracki: yes. That's a nice example. |
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| 19:41.43 | enouf | \amethyst: about my HP printer issues |
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| 19:41.56 | Bracki | How can I check the drive's health? |
| 19:41.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | for "moi" obviously |
| 19:41.59 | \amethyst | enouf: I know very little about HP printers |
| 19:42.08 | enouf | \amethyst: success, yet not sure if export CUPS_SERVER=localhost variable mattered or not |
| 19:42.16 | mjt | TeX |
| 19:42.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | Bracki, you could look at its SMART records |
| 19:42.24 | jelly-home | Bracki: can you pastebin that error and about 50-100 lines of context? |
| 19:42.27 | enouf | \amethyst: but you helped point me to info with CUPS |
| 19:42.47 | enouf | \amethyst: anyways - nevermind |
| 19:43.06 | enouf | !crashthepartysmite \amethyst |
| 19:43.09 | jelly-home | /nick moistVonLipwig |
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| 19:43.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, ?? |
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| 19:43.50 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat, ??? |
| 19:44.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, got me a couple of cabbage-flavored stamps? |
| 19:44.05 | enouf | you sure that's not supposed to be WonDipSchitz? :-p |
| 19:44.32 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm out of that business. |
| 19:44.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | handed in the golden suit? |
| 19:44.50 | jelly-home | so to speak |
| 19:44.56 | enouf | \amethyst: (et al) sorry, i should have done all prior .. and recent stuff in PM with you |
| 19:45.04 | Bracki | http://paste.debian.net/41702/ |
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| 19:45.13 | Bracki | jelly-home: There you go. |
| 19:45.48 | jelly-home | Bracki: oh, your filesystem had errors from previous mounts |
| 19:46.17 | enouf | Bracki: please tell us you haven't tried mounting as ext2 without a journal without using tune2fs |
| 19:46.20 | jelly-home | Bracki: if you're positive there's nothing wrong with the device, you should umount and fsck |
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| 19:46.30 | |niko| | Tramp: I don't see how --modify-window for rsync would make my transfer resume instead of copying the whole thing |
| 19:46.46 | \amethyst | enouf: ah, I just saw the messages, they were further back than I was expecting |
| 19:46.52 | imduffy15 | Hi, I can't remove or install any packages i just keep getting the error " files list file for package 'libncursesw5' is missing final newline |
| 19:46.53 | imduffy15 | " any idea how i could fix this? |
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| 19:47.00 | enouf | \amethyst: yes .. much earlier |
| 19:47.01 | Bracki | enouf: Definitely not, because I don't know what you're talking about. |
| 19:47.11 | enouf | Bracki: ok then ;-) |
| 19:47.22 | jelly-home | Bracki: it looks like there might be even more relevant messages before that, though |
| 19:47.23 | jelly-home | ? |
| 19:47.30 | Tramp | |niko|: it will, if your problem is, what's described in the manpage (which, in >90% of the cases when this problem occurs, is the case) |
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| 19:47.49 | Bracki | jelly-home: That's all I get from grepping for sdb2/EXT3. |
| 19:48.03 | enouf | |niko|: any possibility i could convince you to alter your nick just so the 1st letter doesn't require a double keypress? |
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| 19:48.21 | user458 | compiz in repos is 0.7.6. anyone know if the latest version runs on lenny? |
| 19:48.23 | jelly-home | Bracki: don't grep, better to paste more than not to paste enough |
| 19:48.50 | Tramp | |niko|: and if not, then -vv and/or "--itemize-changes" may tell you what your problem is. But it will involve reading the manpage to understand the output as well. |
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| 19:48.55 | Bracki | Should I fsck with default settings or any special flags? |
| 19:49.02 | enouf | ...or atleast use the -A and -B options :-) |
| 19:49.38 | enouf | Bracki: i'm stepping back, since i know you're in good hands ... i could help, but i came late |
| 19:50.13 | enouf | user458: ever hear of backports? |
| 19:50.29 | whoops-mcgee-pan | Tramp: So if we modify the command line rsync command I can safely Ctrl+c the transfer? |
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| 19:51.01 | user458 | yeah |
| 19:51.19 | jelly-home | Bracki: if you have verified the device itself isn't problematic, you can just fsck that partition after unmounting |
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| 19:51.37 | Bracki | jelly-home: It's on a remote host so I assume it's alright. |
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| 19:52.04 | Tramp | whoopsmcgeepants: I don't understand how that's related to your first question |
| 19:52.26 | whoopsmcgeepants | Tramp: Well it is currently resuming the copy and copying all of the source |
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| 19:53.04 | Tramp | whoopsmcgeepants: well, and you want to find out why, right? |
| 19:53.10 | whoopsmcgeepants | right |
| 19:53.11 | jelly-home | Bracki: um, assume? Have you checked dmesg for other sata or sdb issues; looked at its SMART status (smartctl -a /dev/sdb), its temperature? |
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| 19:53.30 | whoopsmcgeepants | I just don't want the copy to be damaged and I want to know if I can trust rsync enough to go through everything and make sure it has all transferred |
| 19:53.46 | whoopsmcgeepants | If I craft the command right |
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| 19:54.21 | szymon_g | bye bye |
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| 19:54.49 | Tramp | whoopsmcgeepants: why would the state of the copy matter as long as you still have the original and are debugging? |
| 19:55.27 | Tramp | whoopsmcgeepants: what filesystem is the target on? |
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| 19:59.15 | RadSurfer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.30 | Bracki | jelly-home: fsck fixed one inode. smartctl doesn't work cos the drive claims to not support SMART: |
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| 20:00.03 | whoopsmcgeepants | Tramp: ext3 on both |
| 20:00.17 | jelly-home | Bracki: if it's a sata drive, you need to add -d ata or -d sat to the commandline |
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| 20:00.43 | jelly-home | Bracki: if it's a proper scsi device, there are other tools |
| 20:01.23 | Tramp | whoopsmcgeepants: ok, then it's probably not the modify-window problem. So maybe -v and --itemize-changes will tell you, why it's copying again (also use -n, to make it dry-run, i.e. just checking, not running) |
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| 20:01.51 | Bracki | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/41705/ |
| 20:02.00 | Bracki | Does that tell you anything? |
| 20:02.33 | jelly-home | "SMART support is: Disabled" |
| 20:02.39 | whoopsmcgeepants | Tramp: The destination is encrypted with dm-crypt on an LVM2 logical volume |
| 20:02.41 | whoopsmcgeepants | Does that matter? |
| 20:03.09 | Tramp | whoopsmcgeepants: should not |
| 20:03.34 | jelly-home | Bracki: there are errors in the log, but I can't say how old they are |
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| 20:04.10 | jelly-home | Bracki: Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x0b09a32d = 185180973 |
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| 20:04.58 | jelly-home | Bracki: since there already are uncorrectable errors, it might be best to replace the device |
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| 20:06.22 | Bracki | OK, I'll deal with that, thanks for your in-depth help. Cool. |
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| 20:11.51 | tCzern | Hi there, I am trying to setup Beryl and althought I have composite "enabled" it wouldn't let me do it |
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| 20:13.13 | hark | tCzern: what's the error now? |
| 20:13.19 | owen1 | how to save my terminator settings? |
| 20:13.29 | simonrvn | tCzern: beryl isn't the one you need to enable compositing from |
| 20:13.31 | tCzern | no effects, nothing, it falls back to metacity |
| 20:13.38 | simonrvn | owen1: terminator? |
| 20:13.51 | tCzern | compiz doesn't work too, using etch |
| 20:14.19 | owen1 | simonrvn: yes. it's a terminal that have zoom-in/out functionality! |
| 20:14.31 | tCzern | simonrvn: I googled for this, found that I have to do this |
| 20:14.34 | owen1 | simonrvn: ctrl, +, ctrl - |
| 20:14.50 | rhodan | wenn X den bildschirminhalt ändert, also wenn ich z.B. ein fenster verschiebe, verändert sich das rauschen meines radios (128MHz) |
| 20:15.21 | simonrvn | owen1: xterm does this too, via another set of key combos |
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| 20:15.45 | rhodan | oh sry, this belonged to #gentoo.de |
| 20:16.04 | simonrvn | ECHAN ;) |
| 20:16.17 | jelly-home | jaaa |
| 20:16.21 | owen1 | simonrvn: please tell me how! i used to change . |
| 20:16.35 | owen1 | simonrvn: to change it with .Xdefaults |
| 20:16.44 | rhodan | i was saying that wenn X changes the displayed content, the white noise of my radio changes significantly at 128MHz |
| 20:16.48 | jelly-home | ctrl-right shift brings up a list of font( size)s |
| 20:16.57 | jelly-home | ctrl-right click* |
| 20:17.03 | simonrvn | man Xresources man xterm |
| 20:17.41 | owen1 | simonrvn: i know how to do it, but i want to be able to do it without closing my xterm. simply by hitting a key. |
| 20:17.57 | owen1 | simonrvn: in terminator u hit ctrl, -/+ |
| 20:18.14 | jelly-home | owen1: you want to change font size? |
| 20:18.20 | simonrvn | ctrl-sh numpad +/- |
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| 20:18.30 | simonrvn | or ctrl left-click on it |
| 20:18.37 | jelly-home | right click |
| 20:18.44 | simonrvn | you have to hold the mouse down though |
| 20:18.53 | simonrvn | left and middle click also work ;) |
| 20:19.05 | jelly-home | they do different things |
| 20:19.10 | peterrooney | anyone care to explain why konqueror does not display any media when you click on the media link, until after you refresh the view? |
| 20:19.16 | simonrvn | yes |
| 20:19.18 | owen1 | simonrvn: jelly-home : ok. it only change if i uncheck 'truetype fonts' what does it mean? |
| 20:19.51 | jelly-home | owen1: I've no idea, been a long time since I used xterm |
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| 20:20.57 | jelly-home | is not a fan of truetype fonts in terminals |
| 20:21.12 | owen1 | jelly-home: i am reading about it |
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| 20:24.09 | owen1 | how can i list all non-truetype fonts in my machine? |
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| 20:25.41 | jelly-home | owen1: xlsfonts |
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| 20:27.00 | jelly-home | you could use xfontsel to pick one, then [select] it, then in xterm change the font to Selection |
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| 20:27.40 | SuperMiguel | why i cant install gnump3d anymore? |
| 20:28.02 | jelly-home | owen1: welcome to X11 and 1993 :-) |
| 20:29.02 | owen1 | jelly-home: thanks. why 1993? |
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| 20:30.45 | jelly-home | owen1: well, it could be earlier than that when xfontsel and xterm were written |
| 20:32.31 | RadSurfer | whats a good sound-recorder program for debian? |
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| 20:32.54 | sepult` | Sony!! ?? |
| 20:33.11 | RadSurfer | ? |
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| 20:34.19 | sepult` | audacity ? |
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| 20:34.37 | sepult` | streamripper ? |
| 20:34.56 | RadSurfer | Something can record live stereo audio... nothing networked |
| 20:35.02 | RadSurfer | Maybe I'll try audacity |
| 20:35.57 | jelly-home | owen1: xfonts-terminus has a nice set of bitmap fonts, readable if a bit blocky |
| 20:36.41 | enouf | xfontsel looks like chicken scratch |
| 20:36.50 | owen1 | enouf: (-: |
| 20:36.53 | enouf | after it's head has been chopped off |
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| 20:37.13 | owen1 | jelly-home: what's bitmap fonts |
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| 20:37.21 | enouf | bitmaps are meant for filesystems, not fonts |
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| 20:37.36 | owen1 | enouf: any idea why i can't zoom in/out truetype on xterm? |
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| 20:37.53 | enouf | owen1: tried ctrl? |
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| 20:38.11 | syslq78 | How does Debian hurd differ from debian linux (user perspective)? |
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| 20:38.37 | enouf | ctrl+{right click,left,middle} |
| 20:38.38 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: debian gnu/hurd is very alpha quality |
| 20:39.07 | owen1 | enouf: if i right mouse click+ctrl it lets me do it only if i uncheck truetype fonts' |
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| 20:39.19 | enouf | owen1: ok, so? |
| 20:39.19 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: the kernel (or rather: the microkernel) is a completely different beast than Linux |
| 20:39.20 | owen1 | enouf: try it yourself |
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| 20:39.31 | enouf | oh |
| 20:39.55 | enouf | i have no option there owen1 |
| 20:39.57 | jelly-home | owen1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_font |
| 20:39.57 | owen1 | enouf: i use truetype (remember the upside down headless chicken) |
| 20:40.13 | enouf | owen1: draining blood, yes |
| 20:40.14 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: the idea is that the microkernel should provide the minimum minimorum of what is needed to bootstrap and run the system; the rest should be provided bu something along the lines of linux's modules |
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| 20:40.27 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: but those are user-loadable and managable in hurd |
| 20:40.37 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, I know but user perspective would remain the same, since debian adheres to posix and also hurd's c library would adhere to posix api I guess. |
| 20:40.46 | enouf | owen1: how can i tell if i'm using TT fonts or not? in xterm |
| 20:40.49 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: and each user can have different "modules" loaded |
| 20:40.50 | jelly-home | owen1: xterm minght not have that functionality at all |
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| 20:40.55 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: yeah, pretty much |
| 20:41.11 | enouf | owen1: all i know, is whatever font is there, is ok |
| 20:41.21 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: remember, though, that many things we take for granted would be completely different |
| 20:41.25 | owen1 | enouf: i think it depens on the name of the font u r using. mine is defined in .Xdefaults |
| 20:41.28 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: e.g. iptables :) |
| 20:41.40 | enouf | owen1: i have no such file, nor require one |
| 20:41.44 | owen1 | enouf: if u never touched this file u are using the default. not sure what it is. |
| 20:42.09 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, yeah iptables would ofcourse but gnu utils + bash are still there :) |
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| 20:42.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | SuperMiguel, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;src=gnump3d http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnump3d.html |
| 20:42.19 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, coreutils and bash I mean |
| 20:42.20 | enouf | owen1: unfortunately .. even Fonts are proprietary .. yuk |
| 20:42.25 | jelly-home | owen1: old style X11 fonts are all bitmap (everything in xlsfonts and xfontsel) |
| 20:42.31 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: yeah |
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| 20:42.45 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: well, nothing should keep yuo from trying out ;) |
| 20:42.58 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: I did some 2y years ago but it was a mess |
| 20:42.59 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, hurd you mean? |
| 20:43.05 | rysiek|pl | aye |
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| 20:43.09 | enouf | owen1: how about a screen shot? compare? |
| 20:43.20 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, btw this would mean that all drivers would have to be rewritten and linux needed ages to get to this kind of compatibility |
| 20:43.33 | rysiek|pl | yup |
| 20:43.35 | owen1 | enouf: i edited my .Xdefault to use truetype |
| 20:43.39 | RadSurfer | ANYONE happen to know what debian repo has Stellarium planetarium program? |
| 20:43.43 | owen1 | but send yours. |
| 20:43.47 | owen1 | i mean uploa'd |
| 20:43.49 | enouf | owen1: well .. hrmph |
| 20:43.55 | rysiek|pl | RadSurfer: packages.debian.org ? |
| 20:43.57 | owen1 | enouf: do u want to see mine? |
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| 20:44.11 | RadSurfer | I still have the default source.list thingy |
| 20:44.15 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, basically it's not very likely to ever kicks linux ass than, at least I think so |
| 20:44.16 | jelly-home | enouf: if they're antialiased, they're truetype |
| 20:44.20 | RadSurfer | stellarium.org |
| 20:44.21 | owen1 | enouf: h |
| 20:44.22 | SuperMiguel | CutMeOwnThroat, whats the gnump3d replacement? |
| 20:44.29 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: although I *think* there was a project to bring a compatibility layer between hurd and linux modules |
| 20:44.34 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, but will probably be available as package / option |
| 20:44.35 | owen1 | enouf: xterm*faceName: monaco_linux:pixelsize=18 |
| 20:44.45 | enouf | jelly-home: not sure if they are or not, trying to figure how to | to picpaste ;-) |
| 20:44.47 | anddam | is there a package with the kernel docs? |
| 20:44.57 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, bah, we all heard that before, I'm downloading it now to try in virtualbox |
| 20:44.58 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: the architecture is much better fitted for servers |
| 20:45.13 | enouf | ~$ fc- |
| 20:45.14 | simonrvn | !+tell anddam -about search |
| 20:45.14 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, yeah the idea is cool |
| 20:45.14 | enouf | fc-cache fc-cat fc-list fc-match |
| 20:45.14 | dpkg | told anddam about search. |
| 20:45.23 | anddam | simonrvn: I am already searching |
| 20:45.33 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: imagine, each user can load his own "kernel modules", without any way of causing trouble for the rest of users |
| 20:45.41 | simonrvn | anddam: you should know that by now |
| 20:45.48 | Galaxor | Hi. My server is going pretty slowly. In top, I see that a large % of cpu is in the wait state. On some of my machines, I use iotop in this situation, to figure out what the holdup is. But iotop claims it requires kernel 2.6.20, which is not available to Etch. Is there some other way to reveal this information? What programs are performing IO? |
| 20:45.51 | Galaxor | And how much IO? |
| 20:45.52 | anddam | simonrvn: correct, linux-doc-2.6.26 |
| 20:46.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | SuperMiguel, no idea... I can't see any bugreport on the package becoming an orphan either... |
| 20:46.00 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, hmm, profile based modules? |
| 20:46.16 | rysiek|pl | ? |
| 20:46.22 | Galaxor | Or should I go to "lenny"? |
| 20:46.26 | anddam | simonrvn: actually I ran aptitude and then I asked, still your reply was faster than aptitude |
| 20:46.28 | enouf | erm, alt=PrntScrn should have it in buffer, no? how do i save that to file to upload? |
| 20:46.35 | simonrvn | anddam: so why are you asking then? :) |
| 20:46.37 | enouf | bah alt+ |
| 20:46.44 | anddam | simonrvn: parallel jobs |
| 20:46.50 | simonrvn | !lart anddam |
| 20:46.50 | dpkg | puts anddam through a wood chipper |
| 20:46.55 | jelly-home | Galaxor: in addition, iotop requires python 2.5 which is not available in etch either |
| 20:47.06 | anddam | namely I'm searching the usb-serial doc |
| 20:47.14 | anddam | I'm trying to use a PL2303 usb-to-serial cable |
| 20:47.19 | enouf | ~$ fc-match |
| 20:47.20 | enouf | Vera.ttf: "Bitstream Vera Sans" "Roman" |
| 20:47.28 | enouf | looks like TT to me |
| 20:47.48 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, ah, you mean no root privilege needed to load modules |
| 20:48.00 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, you're from poland? :) |
| 20:48.01 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: yes, AND the modules are user-local |
| 20:48.05 | Galaxor | jelly-home: I installed python2.5. I got weird dependency errors, but it installed. I have to run it as python2.5 and not python, though. |
| 20:48.06 | anddam | I get nothing but crap using a nullmodem cable with the same pc and I can't talk at all with a PSTN modem |
| 20:48.07 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: aye |
| 20:48.13 | Galaxor | I should probably just go to lenny. |
| 20:48.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | SuperMiguel, ah, actually here - http://www.archivum.info/debian-wnpp@lists.debian.org/2008-06/msg00054.html - feel free to pick up the package :) |
| 20:48.30 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, nice, another european on the channel wont hurt |
| 20:48.35 | simonrvn | anddam: *nods* |
| 20:48.44 | jelly-home | Galaxor: if you can afford to, that'd be the cleanest solution to get it running |
| 20:48.51 | owen1 | enouf: i think it's truetype |
| 20:49.06 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: huh? you guys need more europeans here? |
| 20:49.39 | enouf | i have (from RightClick + CTRL) Default, Unreadable, Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Huge, (Escape selection is greyed out) and, selection |
| 20:49.48 | Galaxor | jelly: Well, is there an alternative to iotop that has fewer dependencies, even if the output isn't as user-friendly? |
| 20:49.52 | enouf | i need HUGE ;-) |
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| 20:49.59 | owen1 | truetype was invented by apple. interesting |
| 20:50.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | SuperMiguel, or perhaps more correctly: http://bugs.debian.org/390295 |
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| 20:50.10 | jelly-home | Galaxor: not one that I know of, sorry |
| 20:50.12 | anddam | rysiek|pl: due to latest european dudes shortage |
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| 20:50.19 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, I kind of thought that this is mostly usa populated channel, I'm not far from you :) |
| 20:50.34 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, slovenia |
| 20:50.57 | rysiek|pl | ah, just around the corner, then :0 |
| 20:50.59 | rysiek|pl | :) |
| 20:50.59 | jelly-home | owen1: and mostly because they didn't like paying Adobe licenses for Type1 and similar |
| 20:51.11 | anddam | jelly-home: can you blame them? |
| 20:51.23 | jelly-home | enouf: there's larger than huge... huge is merely 10x20 |
| 20:51.50 | enouf | jelly-home: it works for me - HUMONGOUS is what's in my pants :-p |
| 20:52.21 | jelly-home | enouf: bitmap or antialiased? |
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| 20:52.32 | anddam | he's using xmag |
| 20:52.38 | enouf | jelly-home: please ... forgive me - it's all the SuperDuper, Ultra, Extra... nomenclature that USA idiots adopt |
| 20:52.52 | enouf | jelly-home: no ides |
| 20:52.55 | enouf | jelly-home: no idea |
| 20:53.06 | cattellar | I downloaded debian amd64 netinst, if I want to install debian testing, do I have to set the mirros to testing, or did I have to download a special testing edition? |
| 20:53.08 | enouf | so long as it looks ok |
| 20:53.10 | jelly-home | !win anddam |
| 20:53.10 | dpkg | Congratulations, anddam! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 20:53.31 | enouf | anddam: would you like an atomic annie? ;-) |
| 20:53.46 | anddam | jelly-home: like those sets you can only buy on MTV? |
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| 20:54.02 | anddam | enouf: not really, just some hints about this damn usb-to-serial |
| 20:54.13 | enouf | anddam: both suck ass |
| 20:54.17 | enouf | anddam: drop it |
| 20:54.21 | anddam | usb and serial? |
| 20:54.27 | enouf | yes |
| 20:54.31 | enouf | usb , moreso |
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| 20:54.33 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, more or less yeah |
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| 20:54.45 | anddam | that's not a good hint |
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| 20:55.24 | anddam | or maybe it just is but it isn't applicable |
| 20:55.50 | enouf | anddam: what's the fastest a standard serial DB-9 can transmit data? 56kbps? |
| 20:56.12 | enouf | or .. do you mean PCIe and LVDS |
| 20:56.20 | anddam | 115k I think |
| 20:56.23 | cattellar | whats the difference between squeeze and testing? |
| 20:56.25 | enouf | WOW |
| 20:56.30 | enouf | that's fast |
| 20:56.40 | anddam | right? |
| 20:57.07 | anddam | wth has speed to do with it? if you have a device that talks rs232 you just have to use it |
| 20:57.30 | enouf | cattellar: nomenclature only - at this point in time |
| 20:57.36 | anddam | I'm pretty sure I can't type commands on keyboard at more than 115kbps |
| 20:57.54 | enouf | i'll bet you you cannot |
| 20:57.59 | enouf | oh |
| 20:58.04 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl are you a coder |
| 20:58.05 | peterrooney | I'm curious if there is a workaround for konqueror not displaying any media when you first open the media page, until after you refresh the view. |
| 20:58.06 | enouf | thought you said, "can" |
| 20:58.09 | enouf | sorry |
| 20:58.16 | \amethyst | cattellar: 'squeeze' will always refer to the same release (which hasn't happened yet), while 'testing' always refers to the next release |
| 20:58.26 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: yeah, although more of a php/python one |
| 20:59.03 | \amethyst | cattellar: so now stable = lenny and testing = squeeze, but when squeeze is released, stable = squeeze and testing = somethingelse |
| 20:59.09 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, well python just seem to rock, it's very high level, clean and most important cross platform with gc aka reference counting but still it manages you memory for you |
| 20:59.14 | enouf | cattellar: Stable/Testing/Unstable never change their names, yet Lenny (stable now), Squeeze (Testing now) do move |
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| 20:59.23 | cattellar | I see |
| 20:59.42 | enouf | cattellar: Etch _used to be_ Stable, before that, Sarge was |
| 20:59.48 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: yup, that's the beauty of it |
| 21:00.26 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, yeah, i started with c but that was way to hmm, well to easy to shoot myself into foot as my friend stated it. |
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| 21:00.54 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: yeah; but it's fast as hell |
| 21:01.01 | rysiek|pl | prefers FreePascal anyways... ;) |
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| 21:01.47 | enouf | owen1: sorry i wasn't helpful .. |
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| 21:02.13 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, well yeah, but if we're honest how much project do you do that really need that kind of speed. I bet on development speed vs execution speed. Besides python is getting faster and faster |
| 21:02.30 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: true |
| 21:02.34 | owen1 | enouf: i just tried terminator. it's really cool to hit ctrl, +/- and zoom in and out |
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| 21:03.02 | Agiofws | hello |
| 21:03.08 | enouf | owen1: i jumped in late, and have my own issues with xterm and my keyboard sucks, is broken and sometimes really breaks (ps/2) which i hotplug the fucker and it temporarily fixes it |
| 21:03.11 | Agiofws | will this break things up in debian lenny ? |
| 21:03.14 | Agiofws | configure: error: libgc (the Boehm Conservative Collector) 6.4+, ? |
| 21:03.27 | enouf | owen1: i have no need - but thanks for the info |
| 21:03.50 | Agiofws | /usr/lib/libgc.so.1 |
| 21:03.50 | Agiofws | /usr/lib/libgc.so.1.0.2 |
| 21:03.51 | owen1 | enouf: yes u do. u will find the need soon. |
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| 21:04.33 | enouf | Agiofws: please ease up with the pasting - use a pastebin and be more concise in your question - thanks |
| 21:04.34 | dustybin | can debian lenny users make use of KVM and qemu right now? |
| 21:04.52 | enouf | dustybin: erm .. i think so |
| 21:04.57 | \amethyst | Agiofws: if you want to build something using Boehm GC you need libgc-dev |
| 21:05.03 | enouf | owen1: great |
| 21:05.06 | Agiofws | doing it |
| 21:05.09 | Agiofws | ist 160kb |
| 21:05.12 | Agiofws | its* |
| 21:05.31 | amphi | owen1: if you want something like that, why not just use a tiling WM? |
| 21:05.43 | owen1 | amphi: i use awesome |
| 21:05.47 | Agiofws | \amethyst, what is bohem GC bythe way ? |
| 21:05.50 | owen1 | amphi: how do i zoom? |
| 21:06.11 | jpinx-eeepc | !kvm |
| 21:06.11 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kvm is kernel virtual memory, or keyboard/video/mouse. Kernel-based Virtual Machine, see http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions. Also alsk me about <literal xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 21:07.46 | \amethyst | Agiofws: a garbage collector |
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| 21:07.49 | g00se | What do you think the chances are of getting Lenny on one of these: http://tinyurl.com/mpmhvs ? Spec (sketchy) at http://pastebin.com/f727c577d |
| 21:08.02 | enouf | dustybin: you might ask dutchfish when he's online |
| 21:08.18 | dustybin | its ok |
| 21:08.18 | enouf | keeps getting you two confused |
| 21:08.19 | dustybin | http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-a-debian-lenny-server |
| 21:08.20 | \amethyst | Agiofws: to reclaim memory the application is no longer using without having to explicitly free it |
| 21:08.55 | owen1 | amphi: u mentioned tiling WM. how do i increase the font size using tiling WM? |
| 21:09.20 | amphi | owen1: zoom? |
| 21:09.27 | enouf | \amethyst: if an application is not releasing mmap() it has claimed when closed, that's a bad app, IMHO |
| 21:09.39 | owen1 | amphi: increase font size |
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| 21:11.07 | amphi | owen1: why would you need to? I was going on apt-cache's description, which merely talks about arranging terminals |
| 21:11.26 | enouf | owen1: ever notice how the whole xterm window increases as you choose a larger font? |
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| 21:11.57 | owen1 | amphi: i use 23' monitor, and sometime i want bigger fonts for certain apps. |
| 21:12.11 | enouf | owen1: that means it must be conversing with whatever WM you're using |
| 21:13.00 | amphi | enouf: it seems to be arranging terms inside its own window, so I guess it deals with the hints |
| 21:13.04 | enouf | hopes he hasn't wandered into the DBUS neverland ranch territory |
| 21:13.42 | amphi | heh, a 23 foot monitor? |
| 21:13.50 | enouf | haha |
| 21:14.03 | enouf | iMAXXXXXXX i mum |
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| 21:15.02 | mick_laptop | how can i pastebin something from the commandline? there was a factoid on that |
| 21:15.03 | g00se | Yes you'd need a digital cinema projector. A snip at 37,000 GBP |
| 21:15.12 | mick_laptop | something w/ curl or something like taht |
| 21:15.50 | amphi | mick_laptop: you can use a console browser like w3m or lynx, or a script like paste2pastebin.pl |
| 21:15.53 | jelly-home | !pastebin pipe |
| 21:15.53 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. You can also "aptitude install pastebinit" if you are on Lenny or later (ask me about <pastebinit>). Upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php pipe to "nc paste.dyndns.org 1234". |
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| 21:16.01 | jelly-home | !pastebinit |
| 21:16.01 | dpkg | well, pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; specially convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" ; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit" |
| 21:16.02 | _lilibox_ | hi |
| 21:16.11 | _lilibox_ | i would like to know any good irc server for debina |
| 21:16.13 | _lilibox_ | debian |
| 21:16.18 | _lilibox_ | any recommendation? |
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| 21:17.07 | enouf | never heard of debina |
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| 21:17.36 | enouf | but no; apt-get update ; apt-cache search irc server |
| 21:17.46 | enouf | and /msg dpkg search |
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| 21:18.09 | g00se | Debina is #1 in irc. It makes everything into anagrams |
| 21:18.28 | tuantub | dpkg: search irc server |
| 21:18.28 | dpkg | tuantub: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 21:19.04 | mick_laptop | jelly-home: no there used to be a factoid for it -- that is a python thing -- this was straight bash --- it was like 2 lines |
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| 21:20.00 | jelly-home | mick_laptop: nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 is one line |
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| 21:20.00 | jelly-home | ... when it works |
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| 21:20.54 | amphi | !autopaste |
| 21:20.54 | dpkg | i guess autopaste is dmesg > dmesg.file.txt && cat dmesg.file.txt | curl -i# -F 'code2=<-' -F poster=`whoami` -F paste=Send http://pasteitto.gnea.net/pastebin.php | grep '^Loc' |
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| 21:21.08 | amphi | mick_laptop: is that the sort of thing you were after? |
| 21:21.34 | mick_laptop | amphi: perfect - thanks! |
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| 21:24.27 | cirwin | a friend of mine is looking to buy a laptop to run debian, is there any manufacturer that works particularly well/badly? |
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| 21:25.52 | regnirps | Small newbie problem. Debian says latest version of git is installed. But any use gives git: command not found. |
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| 21:26.23 | g00se | cirwin: Not quite as simple as that - it's a question of what's in them. Best to look at one of the linux laptop sites and see which ones are problem-free |
| 21:26.29 | regnirps | whereis git just returns git: |
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| 21:27.27 | cirwin | g00se: ok |
| 21:27.51 | amphi | cirwin: thinkpads tend to work well |
| 21:28.04 | hark | regnirps: install git-core |
| 21:28.17 | amphi | cirwin: thinkwiki.org has more info than you probably want |
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| 21:28.23 | cirwin | cool, thansk |
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| 21:29.33 | g00se | regnirps: The commands are all like git-xxx e.g. /usr/bin/git-ls-tree |
| 21:29.45 | regnirps | Installing git-core. Any way I can make it quit asking for a CD and us a web source? |
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| 21:30.05 | cirwin | remove the line about the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:30.31 | regnirps | Looks like that did it. I'll make that change. Thanks. |
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| 21:31.47 | plb | Ok, I'm trying to put debian on the laptop as it worked perfectly under ubuntu out the box..my main concern atm is xorg which seems to be using vesa..I know the laptop has an intel graphics chip just not sure which |
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| 21:32.45 | hark | check with lspci -v |
| 21:33.42 | plb | Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Int |
| 21:33.43 | plb | egrated Graphics Controller |
| 21:34.33 | hark | see the driver in use, or check your xorg log |
| 21:35.49 | plb | (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)Cantiga Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIO |
| 21:35.50 | plb | ? |
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| 21:39.35 | Agiofws | !dpkg |
| 21:39.36 | dpkg | hmm... dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 21:39.37 | hark | yes, that's vesa |
| 21:39.50 | Agiofws | !dpkg reference |
| 21:39.50 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version is at http://qref.sf.net/ , also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is "debian-reference": 'aptitude install debian-reference' |
| 21:40.34 | Agiofws | ok |
| 21:40.34 | Agiofws | in what package is gdkmm-2.4 ? |
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| 21:41.43 | hark | you mean gtkmm-2.4? |
| 21:41.51 | Polarina | Is there a torrent client that supports IPv6? |
| 21:41.56 | Agiofws | maybe i dont know |
| 21:42.19 | Agiofws | Reading state information... Done |
| 21:42.20 | Agiofws | E: Couldn't find package gtkmm-2.4 |
| 21:42.20 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:42.47 | rysiek|pl | Agiofws: aptitude search gtkmm |
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| 21:44.46 | cirwin | has anyone had trouble with hp compaq 610? |
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| 21:45.14 | jpinx-eeepc | !ask |
| 21:45.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:45.36 | hark | Polarina: ktorrent does |
| 21:45.55 | Polarina | hark: Does Transmission do so too? |
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| 21:46.08 | hark | no idea |
| 21:46.08 | cirwin | jpinx-eeepc: my question was as detailed as it could be, given what I wanted to find out :p |
| 21:46.18 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, do you use debian or ubuntu? |
| 21:46.35 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: debian on servers, kubuntu on desktop/laptop |
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| 21:46.59 | rysiek|pl | Polarina: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_clients |
| 21:47.04 | rysiek|pl | Polarina: use google. |
| 21:47.05 | Polarina | Cool, thanks. |
| 21:47.28 | syslq78 | ryanc`, mhm, debian is nifty on servers. Conservative approach is good there |
| 21:47.43 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, you make a living as sysadmin? |
| 21:47.54 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: aye |
| 21:48.10 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, nice, me too |
| 21:48.23 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, but what we run on linux is on rh |
| 21:48.37 | Agiofws | can someone help me with this compile error i am getting |
| 21:48.53 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/55713 |
| 21:49.52 | }else{ | do you have any of those packages installed? |
| 21:51.32 | SPF | Agiofws: hint: apt-cache search glibmm |
| 21:53.12 | Agiofws | libglibmm-2.4-1c2a is already the newest version. |
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| 21:53.19 | Agiofws | SPF, |
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| 21:59.49 | SPF | Agiofws: you probably need libglibmm-2.4-dev as we;; |
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| 22:00.18 | Agiofws | its not in the repo ? |
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| 22:01.33 | deadcat | i cant seem to load the nvidia module on 2.6.30-1-686-bigmem |
| 22:02.11 | deadcat | and i dont know what i am doing wrong. i cant get my apple bluetooth keyboard to connect to my bluetooth device. |
| 22:02.24 | Agiofws | SPF, ok now what about gdkmm-2.4 ? |
| 22:03.01 | Agiofws | whats the debian command to check what key word is in a package ? |
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| 22:03.36 | craigevil | !tell deadcat about Nvidia |
| 22:03.42 | deadcat | k |
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| 22:03.57 | craigevil | Agiofws: try apt-file search |
| 22:03.59 | Agiofws | http://www.plug.org/pipermail/plug/2008-January/029018.html |
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| 22:04.27 | deadcat | craigevil: i built it via m-a for that kernel. and it installed fine. just wont load. saying the file does not exist. and its there. |
| 22:04.58 | craigevil | deadcat: you did modprobe nvidia and it is listed in your xorg.conf ? |
| 22:05.30 | deadcat | craigevil: yes. its working fine on my 2.6.26 |
| 22:06.23 | craigevil | deadcat: i just cheat and use the smxi.org script to install nvidia and ati much simple and always works |
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| 22:06.39 | SPF | Agiofws: I don't know, I can't find the package |
| 22:06.50 | Agiofws | i did |
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| 22:07.55 | Agiofws | apt-get install libgtkmm-2.4-dev there |
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| 22:09.17 | SPF | ah good :) |
| 22:10.33 | syslq78 | Can I set duplex mode in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 22:12.24 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: it depends on the network equipment, cabling and your NIC's drivers |
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| 22:13.30 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, nooo noo, I mean is it possible to set the change I made with ethertool there so it would be permanent |
| 22:13.53 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: sure - use post-up |
| 22:14.17 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: man interfaces |
| 22:14.19 | rysiek|pl | ;) |
| 22:14.29 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, yeah I'm reading it |
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| 22:14.56 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, coming from windows mostly I have to say that gnu things have kickass documentation |
| 22:15.12 | rysiek|pl | true |
| 22:15.24 | rysiek|pl | and logging facilities |
| 22:15.32 | rysiek|pl | and debug info, if you need it |
| 22:15.39 | rysiek|pl | and so on and so forth ;) |
| 22:16.01 | JBarcelona | Germany http://www.chelariu.de/ |
| 22:16.14 | rysiek|pl | 's going to get some sleep now |
| 22:16.16 | rysiek|pl | cheers all |
| 22:16.18 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, I'm kind of falling for *nix way of doing things yeah :=). |
| 22:16.22 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, hey |
| 22:16.29 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, it's just past midnight |
| 22:16.35 | syslq78 | Dont you have insomnia? |
| 22:16.37 | syslq78 | :) |
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| 22:17.20 | PsiKlops | hi, i have a hi, i am looking for documentation or help on getting my ARCHIVE Python 27871-XXX 1214 /dev/st0 initialized, its a dds2 drive and only loads dds1 cleaning tapes, it always rejects may dds2 tape... |
| 22:17.20 | PsiKlops | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:18.51 | rysiek|pl | yeah, we had a bachelor party yesterday |
| 22:18.57 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: ^^^ |
| 22:19.02 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: I was home at 7AM |
| 22:19.12 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, hehehe |
| 22:19.13 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: so I am a bit worn out today ;) |
| 22:19.21 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, me too but this insomnia thing |
| 22:19.32 | PsiKlops | i've tried # mt -f /dev/st0 retension ... and all kinds of things |
| 22:19.36 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, I have my python book I borrowed from tech library I need to finish |
| 22:19.39 | PsiKlops | doesnt work |
| 22:20.01 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, have fun, night |
| 22:20.09 | rysiek|pl | syslq78: sorry to hear that, hope you get better son |
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| 22:20.11 | rysiek|pl | *soon |
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| 22:20.18 | rysiek|pl | insomnia is a hellish thing |
| 22:20.21 | rysiek|pl | anywhoo, see you all sometime |
| 22:20.29 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, well it's not so bad :) |
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| 22:20.34 | PsiKlops | ciao |
| 22:20.42 | syslq78 | rysiek|pl, night |
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| 22:23.27 | Ergo^ | hello guys |
| 22:23.46 | regnirps | Hey folks. I bet you ALL know this. Where do I change the idle time before the screen blanks and I have to log in again? It is driving me nuts :P |
| 22:24.24 | Ergo^ | regnirps: change your screensaver settings |
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| 22:25.55 | regnirps | AH, cool. Thanks. |
| 22:25.56 | PsiKlops | xset -dpms doesnt work for me |
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| 22:28.49 | Ergo^ | i was always wondering, why debian cant provide similiar way to install drivers to what ubuntu does ? its some kind of licensing issue ? |
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| 22:33.00 | Ergo^ | !help |
| 22:33.32 | skellington | whats the point of a partition for /home? |
| 22:34.06 | magnet | skellington: not losing your files when you format and reinstall |
| 22:34.23 | Ergo^ | skellington: you can reinstall your os and retain all settings |
| 22:34.43 | skellington | so it can/should be larger than /? |
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| 22:35.04 | Ergo^ | skellington: yes it certainly can |
| 22:35.10 | skellington | is yours? |
| 22:35.12 | dondelelcaro | skellington: generally /home is the largest partition |
| 22:35.29 | skellington | alrighty. |
| 22:35.39 | skellington | thanks guys. |
| 22:35.49 | dondelelcaro | at least, for desktop machines; for servers, /srv usually is. |
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| 22:37.49 | Ergo^ | humm.... does lenny support ext4 out of the box ? |
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| 22:39.02 | crazy2k | Is there a way to tell NetworkManager what's my default connection? |
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| 22:41.51 | vizzy | hello, in just installed debian from 5.0.2 lenny livedvd. i used kde desktop install. after apt-get kde mplayer i thought i could play a dvd. but it doesnt play it. its a selfmade dvd that plays fine in my player on tv. made with mandvd in linux. so there is no need to install libdvdcss2 to read encrypted dvds. i typed mplayer dvd://1 to play the first track. but it fails with opening /dev/cdrom. /dev/cdrom is a link to hdc which is my dvd de |
| 22:41.51 | vizzy | vice. its not mounted. my user is in group cdrom, and /dev/hdc belongs to root.cdrom and has read and write permissions for group. what may be wrong? i followed some howtos, but i cant figure out. |
| 22:41.57 | owen1 | i have american megatrends v2.51 bios. how do i know if it supports boot from external usb drive? |
| 22:42.07 | vizzy | btw, i can read data on dvd and play vob directly |
| 22:42.26 | vizzy | owen1, just go to the bios and check if there is an option to boot from usb |
| 22:42.56 | Ergo^ | owen1: can you select usb drive in its boot order settings ? |
| 22:43.11 | owen1 | vizzy: i can see my external drive in the list and i can move it to the top. but i don't see any true/false option to enable external drive. |
| 22:43.38 | vizzy | if its on top of the list, its the first drive the computer tries to boot from |
| 22:43.57 | vizzy | maybe change usb ports and use another port if its not detected the first time |
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| 22:44.17 | owen1 | vizzy: i have debian in my usb drive (on a 2 GB partition). it boot on my laptop but not on the desktop. |
| 22:44.18 | vizzy | and remember that some boards and bioses still have broken support for booting from usb sometimes |
| 22:44.18 | Ergo^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.20 | craigevil | vizzy: install w32codecs or ffmpeg if you do not already have them installed |
| 22:44.31 | vizzy | owen1, try another usb port :) |
| 22:44.41 | owen1 | vizzy: ok. thank you |
| 22:44.42 | vizzy | craigevil, ok, ill try ffmpeg |
| 22:45.26 | owen1 | vizzy: do u think using usb flash will have better chances? |
| 22:45.42 | crazy2k | Is there a way to tell NetworkManager what's my default connection? Or a way to remove that "ifupdown (eth0)" connection. |
| 22:45.46 | vizzy | owen1, i dont know ;) |
| 22:46.07 | vizzy | craigevil, i installe dffmpeg, but mplayer fails with same error. |
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| 22:49.02 | KinG` | configure: error: Unable to find library containing res_mkquery() |
| 22:49.07 | KinG` | what i need install for that kinda ? |
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| 22:51.23 | craigevil | KinG`: apt-file search |
| 22:53.14 | KinG` | apt-file: command not found |
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| 22:54.22 | adb | !apt-file |
| 22:54.23 | dpkg | methinks apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file or list files in a package even if it's not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regexp; see man apt-file). You can also search online; ask me about <pdo> <auto-apt> <dlocate> |
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| 22:55.08 | aliceinwire | Jul 13 00:46:32 aliceinwire-laptop cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/etc/cups/cupsd.conf' - exiting! |
| 22:55.12 | aliceinwire | but the file exist |
| 22:55.29 | aliceinwire | how i can make it read ? |
| 22:55.35 | deadcat | ok. i am on 2.6.30-1-686-bigmem, no nvidia, using NV. trying to get my webcam to work (pwc). and i get this: [ 391.283479] pwc: isoc_init() submit_urb 0 failed with error -28 |
| 22:56.16 | bohsain | i changed the /etc/apt/sources.list from sid's repository to experimental.. but i dont get any updates when i do apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrae !!? |
| 22:57.39 | craigevil | !tell bohsain about experimental |
| 22:57.57 | KinG` | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
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| 22:58.54 | deadcat | this is what i get when i modprobe nvidia: |
| 22:58.57 | deadcat | WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-nkc, it will be ignored in a future release. |
| 22:59.01 | deadcat | FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686-bigmem/nvidia/nvidia.ko): No such device |
| 22:59.23 | Ergo^ | hmm... whats the easiest way to install python 2.6 on lenny ? |
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| 23:00.50 | craigevil | Ergo^: build it from source, python2.6 is only in experimental |
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| 23:02.44 | hollywoodb | I've got "0 4 * * * /home/debwade/bin/mirror-slackware.sh" as shown by `crontab -u debwade -l`... but it never actually runs... am I missing something? |
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| 23:03.29 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: 4:00 AM right? |
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| 23:03.35 | hollywoodb | Irishmanluke: right, daily. |
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| 23:04.19 | hollywoodb | the .sh script is marked executable |
| 23:04.34 | craigevil | deadcat: save yourself the headache go grab and run smxi> smxi.org then if you have any issues go ask in #smxi on oftc |
| 23:04.46 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: Have you run the script outside of the crontab? |
| 23:05.10 | deadcat | craigevil: i would like it to be debian only. unless they build debian packages. easier to clean up in the future. |
| 23:05.30 | Irishmanluke | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.33 | hollywoodb | Irishmanluke: yeah, I've been running it manually, since cron isn't running it... I checked that cron is using syslog (it is), and there's nothing in the logs about it either |
| 23:05.45 | Irishmanluke | cron is not running? |
| 23:05.48 | jelly-home | hollywoodb: you're missing a MAILTO = some@address to receive errors there |
| 23:06.25 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: ps aux | grep cron ? |
| 23:06.27 | jelly-home | wtf is |
| 23:06.31 | jelly-home | !smxi |
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| 23:07.18 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 23:07.42 | hollywoodb | Irishmanluke: root 3390 ....... Jun09 0:01 /usr/sbin/cron |
| 23:07.53 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: so it is running |
| 23:08.09 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: listen to jelly-home I have no clue what I'm talking about |
| 23:08.21 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: but it's definately running |
| 23:08.33 | hollywoodb | Irishmanluke: yeah, I'm stumped. As far as I can tell it should run daily. |
| 23:08.50 | vizzy | !tell vizzy about dvd |
| 23:09.53 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: perhaps there is a reason why your user's crontab will not run? Have you tried running something in your crontab like mkdir /home/user/whatever ? |
| 23:10.38 | Irishmanluke | hollywoodb: you could also try using the root crontab |
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| 23:12.41 | hollywoodb | Irishmanluke: I haven't tried setting anything else via cron, I just set the MAILTO, I'll see if I get anything about it next time it's supposed to run |
| 23:13.07 | vizzy | do i really need libdvdcs2 to play NOT encrypted dvds? |
| 23:13.29 | jelly-home | hollywoodb: you can set up a job two minutes from now to see if cron works at all |
| 23:13.44 | Irishmanluke | that's what I was saying |
| 23:14.07 | jelly-home | hollywoodb: (it needs to be two minutes, because the file gets reread only the next minute) |
| 23:14.14 | hollywoodb | I'll have a go at it |
| 23:14.16 | Phil4 | hrmmm... what's 'experimental' and how does it differ from sid? I've never seen it in the packages repos before |
| 23:14.35 | jelly-home | !+tell Phil4 -about experimental |
| 23:14.36 | dpkg | told Phil4 about experimental. |
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| 23:15.02 | Phil4 | thanks |
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| 23:15.22 | Phil4 | any way to see the date a package went into experimental? |
| 23:16.15 | jelly-home | its changelog will show the date it was built (not uploaded) |
| 23:16.23 | Phil4 | ah yes, I can see |
| 23:16.23 | Phil4 | thanks |
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| 23:16.50 | Phil4 | May, it seems |
| 23:17.03 | jelly-home | you don't even have to install it, aptitude changelog foo/experimental |
| 23:17.34 | Phil4 | I'm looking at it on the packages site |
| 23:17.36 | jony123 | anyone who wants ti watch me feed my bot the 'The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci' goto #eonr |
| 23:18.35 | jelly-home | jony123: only if they're in original Latin |
| 23:19.15 | hollywoodb | well, I was able to run touch & mkdir via that user's crontab; I'll set my script to run a few minutes from now and see if I can get any errors or info out of it |
| 23:19.55 | deadcat | how do i make /dev/mixer? i used to run ./MAKEDEV, but udev takes care of /dev now. |
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| 23:20.30 | vizzy | udev... brrrr */me runs away* |
| 23:21.24 | jelly-home | deadcat: why? |
| 23:22.18 | deadcat | jelly-home: i just got the usb sound card and it has /dev/dsp but not mixer. |
| 23:22.35 | deadcat | jelly-home: i can use alsamixer, but i want /dev/mixer so i can just use rexima instead. |
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| 23:22.43 | jony123 | jelly-home i cant do it anyway now... :( |
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| 23:23.31 | kaay_ | Hey, I was wondernig if anybody knew what the xulrunner-stub process that is associated somehow with iceweasel was for? and what might cause it to consume 100% cpu usage every time I try to open the browser? |
| 23:23.47 | jelly-home | deadcat: is snd-mixer-oss module loaded? |
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| 23:24.18 | jelly-home | deadcat: can your app use native alsa interface instead? |
| 23:24.28 | deadcat | jelly-home: ah. my kernel doesnt have that enabled. |
| 23:24.39 | deadcat | jelly-home: i just use playmp3list |
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| 23:24.44 | deadcat | jelly-home: or mplayer *.mp3 |
| 23:24.59 | jelly-home | deadcat: mplayer does alsa. |
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| 23:26.09 | macrobat_ | what places new kernel items in menu.lst? |
| 23:26.21 | jelly-home | update-grub does |
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| 23:27.41 | macrobat_ | can i conf update-grub? i'd like to update items for other installs and i would like to have vga=773 appended |
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| 23:30.23 | JordiGH | If on box1 and want to use exim4's box2 on a LAN to send email from box1... does box1's exim4 config matter at all? |
| 23:30.23 | adb | macrobat_: add vga=773 in kernel line |
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| 23:30.38 | JordiGH | Also, this multi-file config for exim4 looks really complicated. :-/ |
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| 23:32.07 | Lustra | Hi - I stopped and removed Apache2 but it still allowed me to start it. Is there a way to 'clean/remove' all files associating with Apache? |
| 23:32.42 | enouf | macrobat_: /msg dpkg fbcon resolution |
| 23:32.43 | macrobat_ | vga=773 is stripped when install a new kernel, i do it manually now, i thought i could have it autometed |
| 23:32.49 | macrobat_ | ty |
| 23:32.50 | RadSurfer | WHAT SUPPLIES libstartup-notification0 ?? I added "lenny main" |
| 23:33.01 | cantoma | my sound is being blocked by some application. How can i free it without having to kill most of the process? |
| 23:33.02 | enouf | it's the # kopt=root= line |
| 23:33.13 | JordiGH | cantoma: lsof /dev/snd/* |
| 23:33.41 | enouf | cantoma: it's always flash, firefox or pulse |
| 23:34.00 | JordiGH | enouf: Nuh-uh! I've had rhythmbox bork on me too. |
| 23:34.05 | cantoma | ld-linux. is greedy |
| 23:35.29 | vizzy | knetworkmanager says its not running, how to start it? it someties quits after a while, the tray icon is still there. but i cant configure a network. |
| 23:35.55 | JordiGH | vizzy: Try "/etc/init.d/network-manager restart", with root privs. |
| 23:36.35 | vizzy | JordiGH, ok, i'll do. but it was running before. does it quit automagical? |
| 23:36.54 | JordiGH | vizzy: I think network-manager must be one of the buggiest pieces of software in Debian. |
| 23:37.01 | vizzy | i c |
| 23:37.10 | vizzy | and playing dvds too! |
| 23:37.18 | JordiGH | vizzy: srsly http://bugs.debian.org/network-manager |
| 23:38.11 | vizzy | hehe, yes it always wants a kde wallet password. but i dont use wallet :)) |
| 23:38.37 | vizzy | i wonder why it gets into stable then |
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| 23:38.53 | JordiGH | vizzy: Well, only one of those bugs is RC right now. |
| 23:39.34 | vizzy | ok. is there a way to configure the devices? is this done with the network settings? i'm confised about these tools |
| 23:40.02 | vizzy | network settings seems to be completely different. i try to use a static ip for my device, but i dont find a way to coinfigure it |
| 23:40.16 | enouf | JordiGH: i have no idea what rhythymbox is, but it sounds DE bloat related |
| 23:40.17 | vizzy | i better give these tools a kick in the ass and do it manually |
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| 23:40.52 | JordiGH | enouf: cplay is the clearly the only acceptable jukebox. |
| 23:41.06 | enouf | is a musician whom can't spell ryththtym |
| 23:41.48 | enouf | jukebox? are you from the 50's? |
| 23:41.51 | JordiGH | so I ask again, because I have no better idea: if box1 is relaying email through box2, does box1's exim4 config matter at all? |
| 23:42.06 | JordiGH | enouf: media player, media manager? |
| 23:42.20 | DeathWolf | mmmm does anyone know of any program to actually reduce cpu usage of a process that's using all available ressources(so even nice'd down it will still use all idle ressources, when I want it to use less than that)? I could probably make a quick shell/perl script to kill -STOP/kill -CONT it every few hundred ms but that sounds a bit dirty |
| 23:42.30 | enouf | media == Corp Giant owned crap |
| 23:42.53 | JordiGH | Uh, media have existed before corporations. Air is a medium. |
| 23:43.03 | enouf | DeathWolf: amd64? |
| 23:43.14 | enouf | JordiGH: there is no air |
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| 23:43.28 | DeathWolf | the os is x64 yeah. but I meant in general |
| 23:43.55 | DeathWolf | unless there's something specific I should know about x64:) |
| 23:44.05 | enouf | DeathWolf: look into numa=fake and cpgroup options for coarse mem management |
| 23:44.25 | DeathWolf | mmm I see |
| 23:44.43 | DeathWolf | I assume that's some kernel based management? |
| 23:44.53 | enouf | DeathWolf: /Documentation/x86/x86_64/boot-options.txt et al |
| 23:44.56 | DeathWolf | ok |
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| 23:47.50 | jmoncayo | hi guys anyone here has configured wifidog lately? |
| 23:48.40 | adb | jmoncayo: wifidog is in debian ? |
| 23:49.33 | jmoncayo | nope, but i am trying to run it under debian, so i was wondering if someone did it |
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| 23:50.04 | enouf | DeathWolf: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/Documentation/cgroups/ |
| 23:50.12 | adb | jmoncayo: `nope` .. so no support .. |
| 23:50.25 | enouf | DeathWolf: or .. learn about ulimits |
| 23:50.30 | jmoncayo | ok |
| 23:50.32 | enouf | DeathWolf: help ulimit |
| 23:51.20 | DeathWolf | mmm how does the -t of ulimit work? |
| 23:51.23 | DeathWolf | I had never noticed it was there |
| 23:52.19 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.29 | DeathWolf | yeah but is it an overall cpu time? |
| 23:52.36 | DeathWolf | or an amount per amount. |
| 23:52.52 | enouf | amount per amount? .. wt4x? |
| 23:53.26 | DeathWolf | I was talking of limiting the amount of time used by a cpu, not jab it to death. |
| 23:53.30 | enouf | goes afk |
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| 23:54.37 | vizzy | do i really need exim4 ? it really slows down booting if there is no network available |
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| 23:55.00 | azeem | vizzy: only if your networking is not properly setup |
| 23:55.35 | vizzy | azeem, e.g. if i pull out the cable! |
| 23:55.46 | vizzy | this does not mean ots not correctly configured |
| 23:56.12 | azeem | vizzy: exim4 only needs to be able to resolve localhost on startup AFAIK |
| 23:56.14 | vizzy | why does it need a network to start? .... i see absolutely no reason |
| 23:56.32 | vizzy | ok, yes, ocalhost is up and running :) |
| 23:56.35 | vizzy | +l |
| 23:56.45 | azeem | it's apparently not resolving |
| 23:56.49 | azeem | check your /etc/hosts |
| 23:56.51 | azeem | !hosts |
| 23:56.54 | azeem | hrm |
| 23:57.01 | vizzy | i know about /etc/hosts, thx |
| 23:57.06 | vizzy | dont need to explain |
| 23:57.12 | azeem | good |
| 23:57.17 | vizzy | i do linux for years, but i do debian just for a few days |
| 23:57.39 | azeem | vizzy: feel free to install a different MTA then, e.g. |
| 23:57.50 | vizzy | oh, i like exim very much |
| 23:58.02 | vizzy | so, i now stuck with wlan |
| 23:58.09 | rudi_s | I got the same "problem". What must /etc/hosts contain so exim4 works fine? I though 127.0.0.1 localhost would be enough. |
| 23:58.12 | vizzy | grrr, there are 3 different setups in kde |
| 23:58.20 | rudi_s | /though/thought |
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| 23:58.32 | vizzy | rudi_s, yepp, should be enough, should! |
| 23:59.15 | rudi_s | Hm ... well, then, I think I can live with the 30 seconds (or so) I have to wait. |
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| 23:59.26 | vizzy | so, in kde config, i have a network setup, and i have knetworkmanager |
| 23:59.35 | vizzy | rudi_s, its annoying on a laptop |
